Hey, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Oh yeah, it's time once again
for your bi weekly Gitmo nation publication. It's Sunday it is
the 17th. This is no agenda coming to you from the southwest
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I'm Adam curry.
And from the get mo nation, I also Silicon Valley north and
also get mo nation California and god knows what else we want
to call it because I guess it's getting a little old. I'm John
C. Dvorak, Raglan buzzkill
in the morning. Wow, man, you outlasted the tune.
Almost. Yeah.
Hey, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy.
You're in a funny mood.
Yeah, I gotta say something right off the bat to our
listeners slash producers.
I'm high
and no, I'm not. No, actually, I am completely clean. Now. I'm
not big. Disclaimer, I'm not baked. I just want to say
there's some stuff going on in my life that people will hear
about in the near future. Nothing I can talk about now.
Just so I what I'd hate is for our listeners to say, oh, man,
and this was going on. He can talk about it on the show. So
there you go. Okay.
I don't think people are that into it.
No, but it's a trust thing. It's a trust thing. If they hear me
doing the show, and they don't know what's going on. They hear
about it later. I know this because people it's important as
people, you know that they don't think we're holding anything
back but I'm disclaiming it right off the bat.
Well, I'm holding something back right and immediately which is
Costco
Oh boy. Straight into the I mean, straight into and now back
to real? Or is this food news Food and Wine Food and drink?
It probably who knows? It's probably food and wine more than
anything else. But so I go to Costco yesterday. And one of the
things about Costco we've talked about it before and I talk about
all the time I try to clue people into the Easter eggs
because the CEO is into this and so he makes all the managers
into they bring in stuff that they said you go What is this
doing here?
Right this is this you have mentioned this before and you go
searching for the wine easter eggs, which is purposely put
there really isn't easter egg or something great for a great
price Correct?
Yep, like one time I got Chateau Mouton Rothschild, how much how
much were $99 at the time the wine was going to this
particular vintage was going for 300 everyplace else. Wow. And,
and it was at the port and it was in Port Angeles. It was in
the middle of portal where
all places Port Angeles.
So so I'm over here. And they have a I think I don't have the
label of references sent a bay from ECE EC needed mirror some
obscure part part of France that makes the best butter and I'm
looking at this cheese as a soft ripened cheese. And it says
clearly on the label
raw milk, which is not allowed, right? Well, I
mean, I always thought it was even though people have been
sneaking it in. And raw milk cheese, of course is so much
better than than pasteurized milk. Because it's a living it
develops changes in it, that's all and it stays good doesn't
get that ammoniated weirdness that because you know the
bacteria that's that's natural to the milk, you know, holds a
lot of stuff at bay. Right? That ruins the cheese. And so you get
to develop these very unique flavors that if you go to France
and you get the cheese plate in France, you know from any
restaurant in the whole country, you get these unbelievable local
cheeses that have flavors you've never had before. So I'm like
eating his cheese now. As
we speak for your breakfast as late as we need. We need to we
need a new jingle. It's raw milk cheese. Hill. That's right, raw
milk cheese is good for you.
So anyway, I was stunned that you know buy this cheese and
it's actually it's very meanness nine aperti good. real cheese
like this is very filling. It turns out that's not the case. I
mean, it's just like, Well,
what do you consider? Why do you consider this to be an Easter
egg? Or is it or is it just coincidence or?
No? No, I think it's an Easter egg because for one thing, it
just stands out too much like a sore thumb. I mean, we're all
mail chimp. They have a lot of cheese at this Costco I go to
and then every once in a while they'll have some cheese that
it's just like why is this cheese here? They had a I think
all the easter eggs at this Costco With few exceptions to
protect Killer one are mostly things like cheese. And I think
that guy likes cheese. But they had to, they had a lot of fun.
Have You Ever Have you ever met the CEO of Costco?
No, but he apparently is very easy to get ahold of. He's
supposed to be just like this great guy. And but did they had
they had to choose one time that go to this place? And there's a
there's a Fetta, from Greek from Greece, that has that not one
word of English on it.
And the ingredients are all in Greek as well.
Like, it's like, what is this cheese even doing here? It was
just too weird.
Gotta be a violation of some law somehow.
Oh, I you know, I think the raw milk thing. I mean, let's say
chain, maybe they changed the law or some because I have
another cheese shop that that has it occasionally. But I've
never seen it so blatant. That means just print on the label
raw, you know? I don't know. All right.
Well, of course now, there'll be rated by the FDA.
Now that the way that things are going, nobody's rating anybody?
What? What do you mean? Well, I
mean, I don't see government enforcement on anything. In
fact, that's one of the things I want to get into later in the
show, or even now, what about a new methodology of cooking that
has become so popular and as far as I can tell, it's a it's an
out and out violation of every health code law in every state.
I'd like to spread it out a bit, because there is some absolute.
And now back to real issues that we really need to talk about
before we do anything. Because last night was the the final the
big show the Eurovision Song Contest.
I wish they'd show that in this country. Well, I
wish they had John because I'm going to take back almost
everything I said. Almost everything, the gay thing was
more prevalent than ever. I mean, and by the way, just about
every single guy on stage was gay. It's just that kind of a
show. Not that I give a shit. But the women who were on stage,
whether they were lead singers backings, they were all
stunningly beautiful. But what was outrageous, this production
which is rumored to have cost about 40 million euros. This
production done by the Russians because it was held in Moscow
was some of the best live television with performances I
have ever seen. It was I get what by the Russians. I know I'm
telling you it was the it was so outrageously good that you would
not believe the standard.
There were there were some non Russians behind the scenes and
there's no way no
no, no, no, no, no, I looked at you know, I looked at all of the
the credits you know, I slowed them down even Dexter
Christina's boyfriend who's a total video nut. You know, we
couldn't believe the shots that were being made. It's like,
where's the jib? I mean, it's unbelievable the the shots and
then you'd never see any no Steadicam guys, no nothing. You
could not see a thing, John at one point. It was like a Cirque
du Soleil you just so they when they're counting the votes,
which is a 15 minute break and everyone in Europe has or all
the participating countries are dialing in to vote for their
favorite. They usually have this really, really lame stupid show
to kind of entertain the audience. And it's always the
big joke. This thing. They had swimming pools, made of some
kind of plexiglass structure, with people swimming on the
bottom and diving in. And these things lowered down right onto
the audience. The audience could actually say touching from
surface it was it was Cirque du Soleil. No doubt about it. It
was either done by Cirque du sleigh or inspired by the video
effects. I'm getting goosebumps again. It was out frickin now
really, I mean as a television guy. I was like holy crap, they
just pissed on everybody who has ever hosted this show who has
ever produced it. It was the bomb. And even the songs weren't
all that bad.
I have to really say it's whether you have to look into
this then yeah oh yeah.
I mean I'm I just haven't had the had the time I do want to
play the guy the winning a song for you, which I just a little
bit just wait for the hook. Because when I heard the song I
immediately knew that this was going to win. I mean it was it's
so so obvious. Such a typical Eurovision Song Contest winner
from Norway. This is I'm in love with a fairy tale. Years ago,
when I was young, I wait for a girl I knew she was mine just
waiting to hear the hook which is coming right here comes an
You know? So if you know anything about pop music you
understand why this thing won. I mean, it was just absolutely
perfect. And the guy's cute. You know? He's probably gay, but
he's cute and the girls are freaking out over him. He's got
that Norwegian cute cuteness.
Yeah, he's probably gay right. Only in the morning. So
yeah, I know I blew you away with that didn't I didn't warn
me this song. It's just rinky dink, let's face it. But the I
don't know. It's very,
very clever. And the UK, by the way, who have always been last.
They used to win a lot. But they'd been last for many, many
years. did quite well. I think they came in fourth or fifth.
They were number two for a while. And they were so
desperate. You know, they did a reality show here. Andrew Lloyd
Webber did a reality show to choose the person who was going
to perform his song. And he was there. He played the piano for
Wow, that's putting it out.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And it was oh, it was a good song too.
Good.
So why is the Norwegian guy singing the song in English?
Well, typical for the Eurovision Song Contest is there would be a
native language version and an English language version. But
these days, pretty much everyone does English. Once in a while
someone will do a native tongue version. And they do get extra
respect for that. But you know, this, this, these, these
contestants have also been all throughout Europe promoting
their songs prior to probably to the Song Contest and to make
sure every country has been exposed to it. And, you know,
these are pop records. We didn't talk about it last time on the
show. But it is a song contest. It's about the best song not
about the best performance, not about the performer. It's about
the song, which of course, the audience doesn't give a crap
about because for the audience is the full package. And this
guy had and he comes out and he's playing the fiddle. You
know, he's playing the violin. And really, oh, yeah, that was
great. It was and there was there was one and I told you,
Terry Wogan didn't do the voiceover this year for the
first year. I bet he's sitting at home going crap. This was the
best one ever. And I'm not on it. Think there's a coincidence,
Terry? So Graham Norton, who is this extremely gay television
host who had just you know, that was one gay joke after another
which is very appropriate, by the way for the United Kingdom.
They just they liked that stuff. At one point, I think it was
the, from Estonia, which was I the song was way too good. And
the performance was fantastic. Was his. What he said is oh my
god, it's a stripper in a hamster wheel. And it really was
it was like this transvestite kind of transsexual chick really
hot looking. And she was in a hamster. It was crazy. John, I
wish
this this we did now that you're going on and on like a maniac
about this. I'm now wondering why somebody in the US doesn't
Broadridge entertainment value hasn't picked it up.
I wonder if maybe PBS or BBC World maybe? Maybe they
wouldn't know go to me, it should be like, it sounds like a
network show.
It easily could be it easily could be it was just good. I
can't help it. It was the Russians are doing the shit. It
was and they always have this this moment where?
Well, the Russians, you know, do have an artistic bent.
If they got something to prove, dude, I mean, this is so
generally speaking Russian, I always used to use it as a joke.
I mean, if you set something up, say you're doing a TV thing, and
you had somebody to close to the wall, for example, and they're
doing news reading. And then the walls right behind them is a
good example of what you call Russian TV. It's just you know,
it's just poorly staged. I mean, the Russians were notorious for
this cheap look and Stalin style. Yeah, staging. And it was
always like, it always looked crappy. It had a cheap look to
it. It was worse than the 1950s. I mean, it just looked like he
didn't know what you were doing. And so I would, I was, you know,
that so it's somewhat for people out there wondering why, you
know, we're even talking about this. It's, it's, it's
remarkable that something like that would actually happen from
Russians.
It was almost as if Putin personally had said, Anyone flux
this up, you had it, you get to their head. It was so like,
everyone was just, you know, sometimes these things just come
together. You know, though there was not a single technical
glitch. It was just it's a big deal sounding astounding. Now,
granted, it was some interesting interesting little points to
note. I don't want to dwell on it too long. But basically, only
the lead vocal track is sung live or by the rules has to be
sung Live, which was kind of funny because there was one act
and of course, I forget which country they were from. But
Graham Norton set us up I say, watch the woman in the blue
dress over on the side of the stage. So she was actually
singing the lead vocals while the girl who was you know,
looking like the lead she was maybe doing harmonies or so that
lies trick. Yeah, very good trick because they know that's
within the rules. Yeah. So it was stuff like that but just
great. Fantastic Bravo. Spicy Bob. Good job. Good job. It's
nice to see real
real television listeners will be amused or maybe one
of you would be amazed how many Russian listeners we might have
I might but it'd be interesting to for one of them's had some
insight into this I don't have that many media people that
listen to the show otherwise would have gotten my bed partner
movie by now.
I think I can get you in the next Jay and Silent Bob movie.
You'd be great in that. I just like a stoner dude. Just kind
of,
man. Wait a minute a Hey, man. Where are you going? Man, are
you holding all this stuff from the 60s,
Tony in Shanghai wrote in says, Hey, Adam, I live in China. The
guy that wrote that email on last on the last show about the
Chinese zodiac and the calamities befalling us. Yeah.
Shit. 2007 was the year of the pig. 2008 was the year of the
mouse or the rat in the West. 2009 is the year of the cow, the
bull in the West, and 2010 will be the year of the tiger. That
guy wants to twist the truth to get some attention, or else he
got a hold of a really poorly printed Chinese restaurant
placemat. And I'm thinking that the latter is probably true,
because that's pretty much how we prepped for this show. Yeah.
I think our listeners are right into that. That's that's the
layer we're at least I found a placemat. Dude. It says China's
Great. So Well, I mean, I didn't think if you had anyone out
there, listen to interlude number five. Oh,
man, stop you before you say anything. May I just say the
vortex interlude number five was so much the bomb. You brought
that whole thing up to a crescendo? You were playing
songs. I'm like, Oh my God, this. You have? You have. You're
like a lotus flower to me. Now John, as the pedals peel back.
I'm like, Look at the depths of this man. And then you had the
only you could get away with actually playing Freebird at the
end and setting it up and saying I got to play Freebird and you
play the perfect version that ends with an end. I loved it
more give us
more of the Free Bird was the one thing I wanted to mention is
I had a hippie set. Yes, Hawaiian hippie said I think it
was Hawaiian hippie set for those for you out there on the
Big Island. Yep. And and which is a hippie Island is no
question about anyone who's ever been there notice this
immediately. I mean, you can go to the store they got all this
frozen sourdough bread from San Francisco they got Columbus
Salamis. I mean it's just and then that if you listen to the
local station, it's all hippie music. It's just the damn this
thing. So you know always I think But
make no mistake and it still runs at 9pm Eastern time. I
believe the interlude five every single day. Make no mistake, the
hippie music doesn't mean it's like you know jingle jangle Hari
Krishna shit. I mean, he was there was give me an example of
a couple of tunes Johnny you played them? You put autograph?
You played autograph? You started with autograph? I
couldn't believe it. I could not believe I haven't heard this
song in 15 years.
Yeah, it was a good one. Well, I the model is I still usually
start with that that style of rock and then I go do whatever
I'm going to do. But the guy who Roger Glover's mask is the one
who actually did when I was listening to that song recently,
and I said, you know that is it was a weird song because it's
like a hippie song then like 20 years late. Yeah, I mean, a song
came out in the 80s Yeah, remember that? It's a hippie
song. I mean, this is just it just got hippie written all over
and I was listening to the lyrics. The lyrics are just the
weirdest I mean, we should read the lyrics of this song and I
also played it Chiku Park, which also has
this small lyric Yeah, no, I got Hi. Hi. I love it. What do you
do there? Are you kidding me?
No, my lining it I like the most is that why don't we you know
what? We skip the school. Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah. Why
should we listening to the words of fools? I mean, it was just
like this. You know, drop out to an intern on dropout.
love that song. I got the lyrics here for the mask Roger Glover.
By the way. The song I Love from him is the butterfly ball. Love
is all you hear that?
I remember it but I don't take cash. Right now.
It's later on a Wednesday the sun's going down. I'm standing
naked by a swimming pool. There's no one round my
imagination wanders back Red Dust is always there we laid
together in the jungle and love was in the air. As I dive into
the water both time and motion freeze. I'm hanging there
suspended like a feather in the breeze. Below is your reflection
like an image from the past, but I can't be sure if it's really
you cuz you're wearing a tribal mask, take it off, take off the
mask. Good shit.
It's unbelievable. It's good. Yeah. So that's like that, to me
is like a classic hippie song because it's actually, what are
you talking about? I mean, it's obviously a drug induced, you
know, lyric? Yeah, you think? Yeah, I think so. But he but
he's, uh, but since Glover is like, you know, an old pro, you
know, he, he puts a song together around a very nice
melody and rhythm. And, and the arrangement is just dynamite.
It's it's actually one of the finest crystals of all this if
you if you anyone out there is listening to these, these these,
these interludes they tend to be pretty. They tend to be oriented
or fairly hard.
I'm going to I'm going to switch it on right after the show. You
have another we have six coming, right?
Yes, six and then the one that's going to dead that that I'm
really impressed with myself is seven. He said modestly. Seven
is bras because seven is just a mind boggler.
So what when will sit when going, can I have six? Probably
Monday, okay, then I'll repeat five right after the show.
Because people need to hear I mean, it'll put you in a good
mood. And it's, you know how important it is to have a build
up, you know, and you just did it, man, you fucking Nailed it.
Nailed it.
Hey, back to the the Leonard Skinner Freeburg for anybody
who's not going oh, these guys are boring me stiff, they're
gonna tune out. But let me finish with this one comment.
Free Birds always fascinated me as a song. And so I'm driving
around with my daughter, one day and free bird comes on the
station that I listened to on the radio, so you got to hear
it. And I explained to her the song and you know, the fact is
kind of a, it's almost a cliche, Song people like to play, you
know, just like there's another one or two of these types of
anthems that go on forever. They're very long songs from the
developed in the 70s. And so I'm listened to and it fades out at
the end and say, What would happen to the end of the song
sucks.
I hate that. Yep, you're right. It's a great song, even though
people laugh about it, and you can yell it at concerts play
Freebird.
And so I had, I didn't realize that I had been listening to
this outtake version all these years. And then when I dug up to
my CD that has it on there, and it explained that was the
outtake version. And it was exactly the same song except it
has an actual ending. And so that's the one I ran with
because I found the other one it was like I was because he
actually has a nice ending. I don't understand what the point
of that other release was. And that's the one that was publicly
released. It's gotta be some executive bonehead.
Oh, yeah, of course. You know, some some dork. I mean, this
wasn't even ever released as a single I probably not. Yeah,
no, but this for I think, when it first appeared on it, even on
an LP was this this bad version?
Yeah, no, I had never heard the version that actually ended. So
I appreciate it. I really appreciate it. John. Who's that?
Who says that? I really appreciate it. Thanks for
listening. I really appreciate it. Michael Obama, Michael
Butler.
Oh, rocks rock and let's get this great line. He's, he had on
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Today. Once in a while. He says, Yeah, no, I like my women. I
said, I like my women. Like I like my coffee. Black dumb
guys a trip.
I love him. I thought that was hilarious. Guys. That's really
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they've been cracking down on this stuff. And in fact, the
funny thing is, do they have any of the Obama logos? Yeah, are
the logo that if you go to the websites and logos, their
copyright, we would because the audience should know that we had
tried? Yeah, we had looked into this. Yeah. Because we you and
me. We're going to do Obama armbands. Yep. And with that
logo, we were denied. You can't do it. I mean, it's I mean, you
could but you know, you're gonna they're gonna just stop you
eventually. And I don't think you'd want the IRS pounding on
the door because you did some armbands, but I still think the
armbands are hilarious, but you know, we're not doing them. I
got an email.
He's got an email.
Okay, this is from Mitchell, Mitchell, Gordon. Hi, guys. I
just heard an NA 97 word John mentioned set stepping, which is
the people that bring in the cocaine for Coca Cola. Right,
right. And we didn't talk and I had to send this note to you New
Trier, which is the school that that Rahm Emanuel and Rumsfeld
went to has two campuses, a freshman campus in Northfield
and the main campus with sophomores, juniors and seniors
about 15 miles away in Winnetka. The freshman campus campus which
I attend has six buildings. One of the buildings, the infamous B
Building, is rented out to a company as an office building
with their main company. None other than stepping
once they've got coke on campus.
Well, it's at the main company specific building being 50 yards
away from the nutria Trier campus, the companies don't no,
no, no the
kids come to our school, we've got Koch on campus.
It's just this meant leaves. To me, it seems like a rather large
coincidence that the only company licensed to import
cocaine happens to be renting buildings from Rama manuals and
Donald Rumsfeld's high school and have their world
headquarters located right next to the school. Could that be the
relationship between New Trier and stepping is more than it
appears? We need to look show.
Yeah, we really need to look into that. That's outrageous.
You know, as far as I'm concerned, they should be import
more of those leaps.
I know I've never done it. I mean, I know you've talked about
the leaves. But I've never done coke. I have no interest in it.
I don't care. I've actually never even seen anyone do it
around me if you can believe it. Considering my history.
When I say one of my producers says it's pronounced new tree
or? Oh,
apologies. We did not want to start any control because
the leaves are very crazy. I mean, they're very fundamental
to the Andes culture. In Bolivia, in Ecuador.
They put that on their cornflakes up there, don't they?
So I'm what I've mentioned this before, because I've chewed on
these things. And the it's like it's like chewing on lawn
clippings left to dry out in the sun. It's just worse. You can't
get can't get enough moisture out of your mouth actually do. I
mean it's just what it what does it do to you? Do
you feel weird?
No, you don't feel anything except when you feel normal
because you're up at a high altitude where you're just
gasping for breath. And these things give you a kind of a
normalizing stamina where you don't feel that you're up at
14,000 feet you're you feel pretty normal. Interesting. I
could use these things in in Telluride, Colorado these leaves
How about in aviation? I don't see why I don't do be honest
about there's no there's there's zero. i Hi, there's no Hi.
What a waste. What's the use? Yeah,
see where you saying it, but it meets. In fact, it's just a
normalizing thing. And it's actually once you've realized
what's going on with them. It's just that you just that's what
you're going to be chewing on. time because you didn't want to
just walk in some of these places up in the northern, the
highest peaks of the Andes where there's villages above the
timber line. There's no trees up there. Just a walk around,
especially up and it's hilly, which is a problem. You get
pooped. I mean, it's just like, Yeah, of course, because you got
no oxygen. Yeah, absolutely. Shoe on these leaves. And you,
you still get a little poop, but it's like, there's a big
difference between you and everyone who's not chewing the
leaves. Yeah, I remember
you told me that you were you were doing just fine. And you
neglected to mention the cocoa leaves at the time. So bags,
cats out of the bag. No, I don't think you mentioned it.
Yeah, two handfuls. And I was walking past, you know, kids
that were that could barely, you know, they're 20 years younger
than me. They could they couldn't walk they were bent
over. You know, gasping was. I'm thinking hey, come on. Let's go.
What's your what's your problem?
Speaking of kids, man. I don't know if I presume I have not
looked at the vorak. Delta. org slash blog. I presume you saw
this article from the New York Times which I'm going to Skype
you the link right now. Titled scouts trained to fight
terrorists. And more. Have you seen this? Is this an outrage?
They're training Boy Scouts to be like, militia?
Border Patrol. Yeah. Well, militia.
I mean, it's crazy. I mean, and I encourage everyone, it'll be
in the show notes. Of course, no. agenda.me veoh.com to read
through this. You know, as the sheriff's deputy says, shouting
bad. This is about being a true blooded American guy and girl,
which, you know, it fits right in with the honor and bravery of
the Boy Scouts. And, and it's like, you know, here, put them
on his face, put a knee in his back. I guarantee I'll shut up
then. I mean, this is the kind of training they're getting. And
this, by the way, is our audience for the armbands, which
it bums me out the perfect. I got some brown shirts in the
closet too, which I think would look nifty.
This is unbelievable. This is unbelievable. Yeah. And the
pictures are just two branches.
I mean, this looks like 15 year old kids and combat gear with
handguns and assault rifles and I want to cry. So raw.
Yeah. This article is people who follow the show. This will be
posted in the show notes. You have to if you haven't seen this
article, The New York Times and we do have a version of it on
the blog. But if you haven't seen this article, it's just
like it's a head shaker and an eye roller that to the max.
Yeah. Yeah, really is. You'll just get and these kids look
like that. I mean, it's fun when you want to get into it. Please
say it, say it say it say it's like a bunch of Boneheads. Yeah.
Yeah, these are the kids who always have the big bunch of
keys dangling from their belt. You know, that one
of them has to know really, really, really? Frog gotta look
at it again.
Because those are always the kids. Oh, you're right now he
only has like couple. Well, they all have a key though.
No, I think he's got he's got for worse. He's got the thing
hanging from his belt with a hook and it looks like it goes
into his pocket. These are the guys who have the keys or the or
the my favorite all time favorite thing is that these
guys do, which must be a chick magnet is you have this keychain
thing hooked to a hole drilled through your wallet. And then
the wallet is shoved into your pocket hooked to this chain is
like everybody's out to get your wallet out. I mean,
I don't want all that important cash to get ripped off, baby.
They got to take me with it all my money. Funny. Oh, so I got to
do another piece of email here kind of relates a bit. Adam, I
hate it when you talk about the military because you were always
wrong.
Oh, yeah, I got this one too. And it's okay. First
of all, anyone in the military. I appreciate and respect your
service. From coming from my background. I have a right to
say that and I know what it means to serve your country from
a family standpoint. And so I'm Yeah,
you don't have to apologize. You're not anti Mila No, of
course not. The latest just make you make errors. Yes,
of course. And this is why we read these emails. So the latest
was your theory of the friendly fire incident in Iraq. The
incident was at a mental health facility and those killed were
mental health professionals and patients. That explains why they
didn't defend themselves. They probably didn't have weapons.
Additionally, this was nowhere near the green zone. This is the
story that I talked about. Where
was it guy guy? The Maniac goes in and pissed off.
Right and assault and sources say that this was actually an
attack on Nancy Pelosi who was there. The commanding general in
Afghanistan was replaced not the commanding general in Iraq so
that that's a big bone mistake on my part also when the
military does something weird sometimes It is just because we
do stupid things, okay? Conspiracy theorists often give
us too much credit the military or just people sometimes people
do stupid things like fly the Presidential 747 around the
Statue of Liberty and take pretty pictures. Yeah. Okay, I
got a bridge for sale for you for that one. I distrust the
government almost as much as you do, but sometimes we just do
stupid things that don't involve a national conspiracy. On a side
note, I supported a special ops mission a few days ago in
Afghanistan, the mission took down an opiate grower and burned
several 100,000 pounds of heroin. Great opium. Probably a
drop in the bucket, but we do take them down sometimes. I
know. I know. You're going to say he was probably the
competition. I love you anyway, man.
You know what? He was probably the competition. I like that. He
didn't sign up. He didn't sign up with the consortium. Hey,
buddy. She that feel that you're gonna give us you're gonna sign
up? No. Okay. Furnace.
Exactly. He's not he's not in the group in the clan. I
didn't. He hasn't signed in. He hasn't signed up to give his
put his name on the signup sheet.
Tamil Tigers concede defeat.
Yeah, this is this is big shit. I'm glad your
stories you're getting very little play in the US. But it's
it's one of the main. I mean, this is the one place where
European soil all the terrorism in the world is a Muslims.
There's no this is the worst. I think over 50,000 people were
killed on terrorist acts. In Sri Lanka, what used to be called
Ceylon.
Just explain Yeah, explain briefly what's going on there.
And I'm picking on getting a newspaper article as well. Go
ahead.
There was there's two groups of people battling each other as
Buddhists, and Hindus. And the Hindu Tamils is a specific kind
of a religion, sect, sect. And the they've been in a beef for I
don't know how long when it first started was over 10 years
ago, I think
I think even longer I mean, in the 80s Sri Lanka used to be
like the place to go it was a vacation paradise,
but it actually don't understand it's still to be but the area
where this is fighting going on is ridiculous. And and it's some
of the worst kinds of terrorists you'd like Napoli's if you'd
like to relate to the uranium on your cornflakes. Yeah, it's a
great place to be.
And anyway, that it's over. Finally, they started to crack
down the Indian government's who the problem was the Tamils, were
the troublemakers. And,
by the way, who, by the way, are a ragtag bunch, including women
who just get blown to pieces, their heads blown off, their
bodies explode, exploded? You know, it's women as well, who
are who are fighting?
Yeah. And they were fighting against the Buddhists. And the
Indian government was like, Well, you know, they were like
wishy washy about doing anything about it. And I think it's
because they, you know, the Tamils, were Hindus, and, and
nobody in India as it is very, I mean, even though Buddhism
actually, or originated in India, this is not a Buddhist
country. And I think they were just I think they were lacks, I
think the Indian, I mean, it's it the Indians are not great at
law enforcement.
So there was a huge article in the Financial Times, by the
way, we do expect email after I said that, that's okay.
Now, you know, just the fact that we're bringing this up as
great, huge article full page in the Financial Times for this
weekend. And there's an important little side note that
China is actually the huge beneficiary of all of this,
because Beijing, I'll just read from the paper, Beijing has, in
the last few years, become a crucial supplier of weaponry and
aid to Sri Lanka. More than that, it has helped to deflect
international criticism of mass civilian casualties in the war,
in return, Beijing has won access to a key Sri Lankan port,
giving it a strategic foothold next to one of the world's
premier shipping lanes right under the nose of the South
Asian regional power, India. So this is a very, very big deal.
And I encourage you to look at Google Maps or Google Earth,
take a look at this shit and see where it is, you know, it'll,
it'll be good for you.
I didn't know that. That makes sense. I mean,
and that, that was like, Okay, that makes a hell of a lot of
sense. And so the Chinese have basically been funding this,
this horrible atrocity, which has killed many, many civilians.
And what they're getting back for it is the quid pro quo is
they get the shipping lanes and they get the port right there. I
mean, this is so clear, this is New World Order.
It's again as India being you know, I don't know what their
problem is. I mean, but the thing is, this battle had to was
halted. It should have been halted years ago. And the
Chinese getting getting
here in the United Kingdom. The Tamils have been protesting
they've gone on hunger strikes. They've been outside Whitehall.
They've been you know, demonstrating and actually I
believe it came to a little bit of a head there were some scars
rushes going on last weekend. And how much do we see about on
the news? No, I mean, all we're seeing is I'm in love with the
fairy tale. Eurovision. And this is happening in London in London
every single day. There's hundreds if not 1000s of people
protesting saying, Hey, you guys gotta do something about this
shit because you know, people are dying, civilians are dying.
Well, whatever. That's a t shirt right there. People are dying.
And on the back of that, whatever,
whatever. So, so I guess Obama is gonna speak at Notre Dame, by
the way his did Michelle Obama. Obama's on the speaking tour. I
mean, do these guys actually do any work? Oh, Michelle Obama is
giving the commencement speech speech at UC Merced. Where's the
newest campus at the University of California, which was, which
was kind of doing what it could to try to get people even come
to the school. I mean, nobody was I mean, if, if the campuses
of the University of California are already in Hicksville with
Riverside, and Davis and God knows where else they have some
of these campuses, now they open one in Merced or Modesto. I
mean, it must have been Modesto. And then it's like, Michelle,
all of a sudden, they're giving a commencement speech. They have
room for like 2000 people to watch this and they're tweeting
then apparently 25,000 People coming this order already did I
don't think she ever did yet. But it's like 25,000 Wow.
Yeah, when when they were over here for the GS or the rock
star, we're stuck with these rock stars. Yeah. When when they
were over here for the G 20. Michelle Obama went to a girl
school and spoke at a girl school and you know, she's a
big, big example and hero and blahdy blahdy blah. Yeah, well,
you know, it's
you know, I mean, it gets better service at a restaurant in
Belgium.
Belgium, Brussels.
You know, the joke would have been in France but there's never
been no matter what was to deserve this is what it is.
Yeah, that's for sure. This is I'm glad this was I picked this
up off a Twitter it was sent in an apt reply to me. You want to
you want to talk about Gitmo nation, you want to talk about
New World Order. You want to talk about what is being done to
save journalism, as we have discussed many times in this
program in particular newspapers, from the guardian
who reports and I'm the reason I'm using the Guardian is
because while all the other reports I have are in Dutch,
Dutch government to pay salaries of 60 newspaper journalists.
Yeah, we blog this to 4 million euros to pay the salaries of 60
young journalist to work on otherwise commercially funded
regional and national newspapers across the Netherlands. Does
anyone see how this is wrong? It's like like this. Look at
that. This is so wrong. It's the Ministry of Truth.
The Ministry of Truth, that's what we need.
You know what? That's from? Truth. You know what? That's
wrong. Right? That's from 1980. Ford, Orwell. Oh, it's Oh,
right. Right, right. Ministry of Truth where you got all these
journalists who are, you know, correcting, correcting the news?
Yeah, and even the archives, they go back and I can totally
see that. And this is this is so much a step towards it. And you
know, and I haven't really seen the discussion anywhere other
than, yeah, your newspapers are really, really important, you
know, and then so the government needs to support it. But please,
no, this is not how you get independence. This is how you
get ministry of the Ministry of Truth Ministry of Truth. Yeah,
we should have a jingle for that. Jeff Smith, emailed and
he's going to be in San Francisco. I think when I'm
there beginning of June, is there Macworld coming up or
something in June? To some kind of
no did macros in January. Developers Conference maybe?
Huh?
Well, anyway, he said that he you know, he had blown out his
pipes and he had to take it easy for a while, but he's going to
get some more jingles our way. I love that guy. You know, he's
made a career out of this. Out of out of the jingle business
for podcasts. He's made a real career. It's fine literature
podcast. Yes, they do. Well, he also he also has ringtones. And
I haven't I've never really looked into exactly what it is,
but just Google, Jeff Smith, G O F F. Jeff Smith ringtones or go
to the Jeff smith.com. And you can find me that's also working
very well. I got to figure out what he's doing because he's
doing something successful. And I like that. We got to look into
that.
So Wolfram Alpha came out.
Is this a is this a video game?
You're onto a new search engine was not really searching. Right,
right.
This is the thing that has all this super algorithm and it's
actually supposed to get you answers, not links or something.
Yeah, there's no links. Did you ask it a question? Or you don't
even ask it a question put in San Francisco and you get the
essentially a version of kind of CIA Factbook.
Is it reasonable? Wolfram alpha.com.
Yeah. And but what's interesting about is you can put comparative
stuff in there, you can put San Francisco, Cincinnati, something
else and you get these comparisons where you can put a
bunch of countries in and you get a combined population. And
it's actually, for people who I've mentioned this in a column
I wrote that if anyone who's doing a talk show like us, you
should just have it up all the time. Because you can type in
you know, you'd have a quick question about something and you
just think it answers it without having to deal with it. As you
know, a middleman will be Google. I
did what is no agenda and Wolfram Alpha isn't sure what to
do with my input.
Yeah, because that's not what it does. Oh,
what what would the question be?
Well, you say we're talking about put in Tamil, put in
Tamil, Sri Lanka, okay. Sri Lanka paradise. I think the
thing that has to be dealt with me you have to realize what this
thing can and can't.
So I get I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. Wolfert
Wolfram Alpha has temporarily exceeded its current maximum
test load. See the live video feed of the control center?
Whoa, hold on a second. You must be pretty
tight. Wait, wait, let me get this straight. It's got the
bandwidth to show you some live video feeds. But again, give me
a good one.
Yeah, that's pretty rich on it. Although it's not really loading
the video. Oh, in here, and here comes here comes let's see, we
get oh, that's on Justin TV. That's why. Okay, so
it's not their feed. Anyway, so that's what it's good for me
right now. Everyone's looking at it. And they're probably
bitching a lot, because you can't do for example, a vanity
search and get anywhere. So I thought about you,
I read an interesting, interesting little note. And
something we have not talked about, of course, is our
budding. Nearly Smit. The anti competition. European Council
Member chick who was just who was just she was just find Intel
$1.4 billion for and we'll talk about that in a second. But I
was reading some related articles about Wolfram Alpha.
And you know, say, Well, you know, should Google be worried
about this? And of course, well, first of all, no, but second of
all, it's competition is exactly what they need. They're probably
funding it on the back end. It's exactly what they need. So they
don't get into this anti competitive problem.
Yeah, there is that. But the fact of the matter is Wolfram
Alpha and Google have nothing in common you don't use in fact,
even with Wolfram Alpha, when you get your data, it has a link
to the Google site if you want to get you know, the normal
result. There you
go there. I told you that they've they're on the back end.
Now, there needs to be some competition to Google right now.
There's nothing Microsoft can't seem to do it because I think
there's too cheap,
but it always makes me laugh. Because, you know, there's they
say, well, it's anti competitive and they've got a lock on the
internet advertising market. I'm like, you know, the internet is
the most competitive place to be I mean, any anybody can start a
competitor to Google you probably won't succeed, but
anybody can start it there are no gating factors that the
government can
provide you guys over to beat you up.
No, not at all. You don't have to use Google you know, it's an
It's nuts. That's crazy talk. But this intel AMD thing was
that part of the the eons of lawsuits that you have actually
testified in court for Yeah, this is it so so this is the
result of your your of your labor
flow, I didn't know what to do with it most stuff. Good job.
Good job. Thank you very much, ladies sit down with me here the
whole week. So no, this is a this actually is a result of a
more recent, most of those lawsuits that go back were all
instituted by Intel as a harassment scheme. And it was
you know, typical of the Silicon Valley mentality. This more
recent one was the result literally of AMD complaining
bitterly to anyone who would listen about the business
practices that Intel employed to keep AMD and it's kind of its
place short sheeted as it were and the EU paid attention and
now it's you know, the but now Intel's get a little worried
about the fact that you know, these things are kind of like
dominoes, because, you know, nobody does anything and nobody
does anything. Nobody does anything and then one person,
you know Nellie melee. Yeah. Whatever she does something and
it's a big deal and Intel of course poo poos it but its
effect is it's a huge deal and now everyone else's that didn't
do anything is re examining you know well as they get to La
we're gonna look bad here you know the EU is doing all the
hard heavy lifting we bet we're going to look like a bunch of
schmucks and we don't do something you know what happened
to you know these other guys you know you start to get worried
these bureaucrats bureaucrat mentality entails now has to
deal with the with all this others just what happened with
Microsoft, I mean, they've nothing nothing nothing happened
and then what kind of boom kaboom and then every state now
tries to get in on the action they get sued over and over and
over but one thing after another is becomes a nightmare. And this
is what the potential is for Intel's gonna have to deal with
the nightmare scenario. If they can't, you know, I don't know
what they're going to do about be honest.
I believe that the fine could actually amount to like up to
10% of their gross tax.
That's the worst case scenario fine. They know what they've
never done that fine that I know.
I mean, you know what that mean? And being a public company where
you already have Sarbanes Oxley I mean, that's horrible. Just
had to build a bridge to it. Sorry.
You just wanted to use this.
Let's hear it again. I like it
you're gonna have to have a bunch of these. You have to be
like Cramer on Mad Money. Well, you have the buttons. The big
buttons. Yeah. Yeah. So you can hit these things because you
know, if anyone listening if anyone listens to this show,
they know that you suck at hitting the sound effects in a
timely fashion. Hello, cattle. This is the pot calling. who
sucks? Maybe. Who sucks anymore real anymore? Yeah. I got I got
to my news. Yeah, I
got some important things. God bless the Germans. And I've said
many times, we actually we almost got the setup pod pod
show Germany at the time. It was really I had a very good time
with
professor who have the t shirt by the way. What? God bless the
oh god bless the German t shirt. This is it could be the ultimate
in political control, but it won't be patented, or as we say
patented. In Germany. German media outlets reported last week
that a Saudi investors application to patent a killer
chip, as the Swiss tabloids put it has been denied. The basic
model would consist of a tiny GPS transceiver placed in a
capsule and inserted under a person's skin so that
authorities could easily track him. Model B would have an extra
function, a dose of cyanide to remotely kill the wearer without
muss or fuss if authorities deemed he'd become a public
threat. The inventor said the chip can be used to track
terrorists, criminals, fugitives illegal immigrants, political
dissidents, domestic servants and foreigners overstaying their
visas. What Haven't you forgotten? You forgot pedophiles
and people look at pornography. The invention will probably be
found to violate paragraph two of the German patent law which
does not allow inventions that transgress public order or good
morals Yeah, I'd say this overstepped the boundary a bit.
So where did where did this idea come from? From a guy who was
trying to patent it Oh, man, Saudi Saudi Saudi Arabia Saudi
inventor so this
is the this is the Saudi contribution to intellectual
property.
Well, remember act us coming soon. You never know it will be
allowed they might change those rules about good morals actor
could have it all for us.
So here's what the kind of the downside of this will downside.
And besides the fact that chip is ridiculous, but here's I I'm
just gonna predict for people out there who want to see this
coming down Broadway. If anybody comes up with any of these
chips, these little tracking chips, then the idea that you'd
have one with cyanide or arsenic or cyanide in it. You could say
you sure that that ship that they're giving you it doesn't
have the cyanide in it, or or that it's not
being banked but controlled by VISTA. And VISTA is is this
James Bond group organization? VISTA is Windows Windows Vista.
Oh. Right it Bri boots. Android now with Android? Uh huh. Hello.
Yeah, no, I'm just I'm just trying to think I'm just
wondering who would come up with this idea of putting arsenic in
a GPS chip?
I mean, the Saudis are cyanide. It wasn't arsenic. Cyanide.
Cyanide.
A cyanide? I mean, yeah. Cyanide. work better the
assignment is an interesting poison we've talked about before
you can honk the horn but go ahead I
don't I don't recall what Cyanide
is like insane it's interesting because it's fully metabolized
by the body so if you doesn't kill you you fight doesn't have
any long term damaging effects necessarily unless you get to
the point where you're almost kills you but it's almost like
it kills you. And then it gets metabolized is used a lot for
for assassinations where you want somebody to look like they
had a heart attack because essentially, it metabolizes so
quickly in the body that it's hard to to uncover it in an
autopsy. But yeah, oh, that's
right. Yeah, I'm that used to like do you remember Ellery
Queen? Yeah. Ellery Queen and his dad is wacky dad. And what
was it? Was it Deke red? No, who was it? Who was new played
Ellery Queen, the long, lanky? Kind of Dude, it was a TV show
that tech but there wasn't like cyanide, you know, it's
impossible to detect because the body metabolizes it.
So but you when you're working in a chemistry lab, you get you
get this, you smell it every so often, it's and you tend to if
you know what to look for, yes, you run into it in food. I mean,
Cyanide is very common. And it's essentially accounts for the
almond aroma, that
Oh, that's right. Yeah, it smells like almonds. But how
Cyanide is actually the almond aroma or an extract of it.
No, it's not an extract of it at all. But the almond the almond
aroma that you're smelling, when it gets really intense is
actually is cyanide. And in fact, you've run into the modest
amounts of cyanide in for example, apricot pits, which are
used in the French us apricot pits when they make jams and
jellies. They put the pits in you take you crack, the pit
open, there's a little nut inside, which is by the way,
delicious. And have your cyanide pit today. You can't block
people consider that they used to call it vitamin K anti kiss
was anti cancer. There's a lot of so controversial
where it's what is the main source of cyanide?
Cyanide is just a carbon and nitrogen atom hooked together
the main sources. I mean, it's just everywhere. I mean,
cyanide. I don't know. Where are you? I don't know. I don't know.
How do you make it? How do you make it?
It's very actually quite easy to make. I mean, it's like really
easy to make. Really? Yeah, no, it's cool. I used to know how to
make it. I meant it but I don't remember. I do recall is really
easy to make. You have to be real careful. Because you get a
whiff of it every once in a while you go and then you just
say am I doing and then you Okay, now I'm fine.
How am I feeling? Am I am I know? Okay, I'm good. I'm good.
So anyway, the, this this Cyanide is occurs naturally in
food, and then like nuts of fruit. And that's why you can't
eat you mean you can eat a couple of these pits nuts from
apricots, but if you ate like a handful, you'd probably be dead.
The other one we're shows up and by the way in the more delicious
if you really want to taste cyanide in its most flavorful
form.
I think we need to do this by the way when I'm in San
Francisco in June, we must have some
way you can do it. You can do it in the backyard or like to have
it with you. I'd
like to have some cyanide with you. Eat join me for the cyanide
party.
Vote Daddy, this is other the two shots of the head. We've got
him now.
Yeah. Oh, now now we've got Oh, they were experimenting with
size eight.
So, app an apple.
Wait a bit. Wait, hold on a second. I believe in UFOs are
coming to save us. I just gotta say something like that real
quick so that we don't get knocked out.
Apple seeds, which by the way, are absolute good Appleseed.
Especially if it's if it's a mature is one of the most
delicious things you'll ever have. I mean, they're just
tasty. And but it's a cyanide thing. You can't eat more than a
few of them. You can have one or two of an apples. Had if you
want yeah, if you had a tea, I think a tablespoon of apple
seeds. You're risking a health problem
because of the cyanide. Yeah, wow. Well, that's that's that is
news. Thank you. That's a that's a it's a no agenda health tip.
Don't eat don't eat too many apple seeds, kids.
But if you get a real strong whiff of almond extract smell,
and that's what this smell would be exactly like if you get some
good almond extract and you sniff it. That's what cyanide
smells like. Exactly. And if you get a real strong smell that
somewhere you know if you can't hold your breath,
you bet you Yeah, you're screwed. So it was if you had
more health and food safety tips for today.
Well yeah, if we want to get intuitive you got it we don't
have we have a jingle somebody says by when the food sent news
I didn't get
the jingle we got a food jingle. Yeah. Is that forwarded to me?
I thought so was use it next week.
What's it called? What was it? You don't remember I'm in Gmail
so fast often I can't
use the jingle because I haven't got to sound effect machine on
my side. But there's an article you can go to wired look at
people shouldn't look, check this out. So here's what here's
what, let me give you a genesis of how I've come to certain
conclusions based on the news that we've been doing over the
past few months. And the fact that I was at a used bookstore
and saw Thomas Keller's cookbook, on a process of
cooking called su bead. And it's spelled s o u s v i d e. So
there's two things that happen in the news that were
interesting. One was the smear campaign against Gordon Ramsay.
And the other one was the food poisoning incident at The Fat
Duck in England.
Right, right. That was where they had to close it down.
Right, the celebrity chef,
right. So Well, I suppose I saw this book. And I realized by the
way, I've had this kind of cooking a couple of times I felt
I had some in Holland I had a piece of veal that was prepared
with the SU V method. I just a bunch of things fell into place.
And let me explain. First of all, Gordon Ramsay was accused
of using baggy food, you know, stuff in a plastic bag. And you
know, he's taking it as though it was a shortcut, when in fact,
obviously Ramsay is experimenting with this cooking
technique, which involves taking a piece of food, putting in a
vacuum sealed, cryovac bag, sucking all the air out of it,
throwing it into a water bath and cooking it rather slowly for
a very long time at a very low temperature. And this creates a
unusual cooking, you get a very weird food out of this
technique. And it's used mostly in fact, there was a good
Wikipedia article, you should look it up out there everybody,
so you as vi d, and then make a copy of that. But it goes on and
on with an explanation of where it began. It started in the 70s
it was came out of France and everybody who's anybody all
these hotshot chefs and all the guys doing the three star
restaurants are using this technique because you can
present somebody with some really wild food now Michael
Mina, I know must use it because he has a duck dish over here in
his restaurant in San Francisco that is cooked this way is
absolutely fantastic. And I had a piece of veal in Holland that
was obviously this way. And what it entails is and there's a good
article in Wired Magazine, because Nathan Myhrvold who is
something of a foodie, he's the dude right? Microsoft dude,
through a billionaire who's billionaire dude, the
billionaire dude is experimenting with this trick.
And I'm looking at him a picture of him in Wired, which he's
wearing the chef's outfit, I mean, come on. And then he's
putting leaves into a piece of salmon that he's going to cook
with this method. This is, as I read this, this, I think is one
of the most dangerous cooking techniques. It needs to be
either outlawed or it or there are there has to be a warning on
a menu. I do not want to eat this food Cook prepared in this
manner from amateurs. And I think the fact that what's his
name Blumenthal, I were at Fat Duck made a whole bunch of
people sick. And if you read those articles about this first
thing I did, as soon as I'm thinking back, I typed in his
name, and then sue feed, boom, he's like one of the number one
guys involved with this type of cooking. In fact, most of his
dishes are done this way. And I'm reading the articles from
these dumb journalists who were saying once you thought that
Gordon Ramsay is doing cooking bags. Nobody and they said well,
maybe it was bad fish. It could have been the scallops, it could
have been the oysters, which you know, generally speaking, you
don't get 40 people in your restaurant sick on oysters
because there's only usually a bad oyster. You know, it's not
like a batch of them and how many people have oysters
nowadays? Not too many. So I figured this cooking methodology
that got people sick, but nobody's bringing this up. I'm
gonna read the article to read is the one in wired with Nathan
Myhrvold. And here's the reason you want to look at it because
I'm going to read you a couple of points that Nathan talks
about because he's apparently been experimenting with this and
I actually would advise him to stop so let me read a couple of
points here. The articles were actually quite short don't buy
an ad. Anyway, here's his here's his tips. Don't bother with lab
quality thermal circulator. Everybody in France who has been
trained in this methodology says you must have a lab quality
thermal circular because you're cooking at extremely low
temperatures. Read from the Mirbeau volt article for at home
fair, check out the temperature controllers at Auburn's dot com
which can be used with rice cooker you also need a vacuum
sealer like FoodSaver, which doesn't do it good enough. job
in my opinion, cook short ribs forever. I love to cook short
ribs at 130 degrees Fahrenheit for 36 hours marveled says they
become very flavorful and have a different texture that most
braised me. Yes. Don't be tricked by the color of your
fish. Now here's the one that gets me. Fish can be
particularly interesting. cook salmon at 102 to 104 degrees for
20 minutes. merval says it will look raw but have the texture of
cooked fish. Now I want to point out this 102 to 104 degrees is
about 20 degrees less than the ambient temperature in Phoenix,
Arizona most of the year, and you're going to be cooking at
this temperature to be cooking food at 102 degrees in a vacuum
pack. You're asking for the botulism bacteria, if nothing
else, to propagate like a maniac and make you sick. I don't
believe that this form of cooking should be there should
be a warning on a menu. I mean, I was actually
this is really interesting, John, because I did mention this
a couple of weeks ago on the show, but I didn't know this
background. This is fascinating.
There should be a warning on the menu. If anyone's using this
technique to cook anything. There was there was a lot of
training that went on in the with some French chefs that are
using it. And yeah, you get some really weird food out of it
because you're cooking. You're not really it's not even
cooking. It's just It's I don't even know what you know, the
fact is, I just I have beside myself, obviously, with the fact
that this is being this kind of cooking is being done and
propagated and promoted irresponsibly, I might add at
all, this is not to be even experimented with unless you're
one. This is a real health risk and the health department's have
got to crack down on it. I don't care if people if somebody knows
what they're doing cooks this way. I just want to know that
this is what I'm going to be getting and would
you eat it if you knew it?
Depends on the chef Ramsay. I would trust Ramsey I think
Ramsey's guy is a fanatic. He's a he's a he's something of a
screwball. And I would think that he could do the job, right?
I mean, he's not known for this cooking technique. And he's
obviously experimenting with it. But I'm sure that he's such a
stickler for details. He's not going to tell people not to use
it. You know, the one thing I ran into is this information
about this extremely expensive circulating water thing that you
that these guys all cook with. And then Myhrvold saying yeah,
don't worry about to get a rice cooker. And then cook your
salmon at 102 degrees and he's actually showing a picture of
him putting leaves which are you know, some sort of herbs on top
of some pieces of salmon that he's sticking in these bags. And
I don't care what herbal leaf it is this, any herbal leaf out
there, especially when you're stuck, does not wearing gloves.
So it's going to be rife with bacteria by the fact that you're
using a bare hand you got salmon which is a great vehicle for
growing bacteria and you're putting pieces of plant
material. I mean there's it's it's a it's a witch's brew it
potentially to be putting it in some sort of a bath of any sort
and cooking it at 102 degrees it's going to be in Northern
California here today it's gonna be 102 degrees outside don't
just throw the food in the street you know let it cook that
was cooked
right on the on the on the asphalt right on the tarmac
perfect.
So anyway, this I was very upset about this. I didn't know any of
this. I shouldn't know and I'm just been going on for a number
of years. And but that but it all makes sense. Now that's why
Ramsey got busted for this using baggies and this is the why that
guy I'm sure why you got a bunch of sick people at
that much better. I mean, I just don't understand the philosophy
behind it. Is that the only way to cook it or I just don't get
it. Why?
Here's the two dishes. I know I've had cooked it with this
method one few weeks ago in Holland. It was a veal dish that
was it was amazing. I mean, it was like this Vidal hay was just
what it is it creates a extremely interesting texture
that you've never had before. It's the tenderness factors
through the roof. And the the product itself in this case,
veal, it doesn't look like it doesn't look right. It looks
like something that looks like it's been treated in some sort
of some weird way. It's got funny colors and it but it's
it's fascinating and delicious, and probably partially pre
digested the Michael Bennett dish, which is anyone who wants
to go to Michael Minnis restaurant in San Francisco,
which I thought I bitched about before because I went there
three times and every time it was got progressively worse in
terms of the service until they finally did a bait and switch on
a bottle of wine that irked me to no end and they have a duck
dish there and in this restaurant Michael minutes in
the St. Francis hotel, they have a Everything was prepared 30
ways and so you get ordered. Can you get this version?
John says the chat room was complete. I'm sorry to interrupt
the chat room was complaining about hearing dripping water
from you know, you got no dripping water?
No, I think they're maybe they're complaining about the
tech five show I don't have any dripping water oh yeah,
no, no, no. Maybe I'm confused. I'm sorry,
we'll have to say something else. But anyway, the point is
they have these three addition, they got this duck dish, and I
remember the guy telling me about it. Now it's cooked in
some you know, he kind of explained now I realize what it
was it was cooked in this method. And I'd say you know,
it's Wow. It's like amazingly delicious. And that's the reason
because it's a new culinary thing you haven't had before. So
it's like an it's a curiosity more than it is anything else.
And so these guys are very attracted to it. And the guys
who are practicing it are getting all these Michelin
stars. I gotta get one hotshot chef to say he won't do it
because it's just too dangerous. That is a dangerous cooking
technique. It needs to do people need to have a warning. I think
I would be. You know, I can see why people get sick and Fat
Duck.
Okay, can we stop now that was very interesting. That's the end
of it. That was very interesting, because we do have
some health news we need to discuss because show's almost
over man. Things went by, according to the CDC. 100,000
plus people in the US have flu, half have swine flu. According
to that this is on WebMD making it up. But this is on WebMD. And
it's according to the more than 100,000 Americans probably have
the flu. At least half of these cases are h1 and one swine flu
is CDC expert estimates. There you go. So I had it. I had it.
Dude, I had the swine flu. I'm telling I haven't you did? Of
course I did.
You need to get tested. You do though. The bodies in your body
still?
Yeah, well, I'm not gonna. I'm not letting them put any needles
in me. Not even the test. Who knows? It might smell more like
almonds. Well, they might inject me with that ship GPS chip. By
the way, the GPS chip. I mean, we're so much there's so far
advanced, they have RFID dust now, where you can just sprinkle
this dust on someone and they can track you. And I saw
bullshit. No absolute RFID dust is for real. It's for real. And
it was funny because when we went when we went to Portugal,
so Dexter came with us some Dexter has a British passport,
Gitmo nation East passport and and I was like, Do you have a
recent? Well, yeah, I got a recent passport because you
know, if you have the if you're if you have a chip to passport,
then it's much easier because the reader can, you know, can
get all the info and it's going to be requirement, obviously.
And I looked and I looked at the Yeah, you have I have one too,
but you know, it's like a very little itty bitty chip right in
ours. But in the UK passport, John, I got I'm gonna take a
picture. I'm gonna scan his passport. So you have the chip
in the middle. The antenna is the entire back of the passport,
there's wire all the way up. Here, they could pick this thing
up from frickin space. It's amazing how big the antenna is
on the UK our passport.
I wonder if the and I have a wallet. I'll talk about the
brand and give it a get a Faraday
cage wallet. Yeah, you have that you wonder
if this is a Faraday cage. Well, it's interesting because I think
it stops the US passport, but I use a key card at the Ziff Davis
at the office building when I go do cranky geeks. And I've put
the key card inside one of these wallets and it blows through the
Faraday cage. Wow, it's got a big it's a big just like what
you're describing. It's got a it's a huge key card is a big
one. Yeah. And which probably has a big antenna on it.
I say you should get your money back from that Faraday cage
wallet. Well, it's
not meant it's meant for passports I don't know if it's
meant for a key card. But whatever the case is, I was
meant
for credit cards all kinds it aren't they isn't credit cards.
We're going to but it's you know it's a nice wallet anyway, but
the point is, is that I wonder if that wallet will protect
against a big antenna that they haven't loaded up I doubt it.
It was a Canberra to Canberra, Canberra, right? Canberra Bay
scientist who came up with a theory that swine flu must have
come from a laboratory or laboratory, as you say, and get
my nation east. Adrienne Gibbs research he said genetic markers
suggest the combination of genes and the virus was not a natural
event. Of course, the World Health Organization The who
won't be fooled again says the virus probably evolved
naturally. So I just want you to know that they're out there
debunking. And, you know, the quote, the other group of
scientists felt that the original hypotheses does not
really stand up to scrutiny. And this is how scientific process
can work in the context of this kind of public health emergency.
But it's funny how they go along with the, you know, this kind of
debate, except when it comes to global warming,
right? Every
debate and everybody because joy told us so.
Yeah, everybody without exception Uh huh.
Every single scientist in the entire universe. Hey, you know
what? You know what it's time for
singalong we are the Knights of the no agenda. Knights of the
know what agenda? Knights have the no agenda and we suck
Yeah, we need to get more money? Hell yeah.
Have we gotten anything into people even bother? Or is it as
the
always good keeps dribbling in and we have a lot of real we
have some very dedicated subscribers and producers. And I
have to say and we will talk about the latest crop on
Thursday. also somebody who sent in that weird amount of money
for 21 Yeah, you don't want to talk about that now? Yeah,
well, I'll tell you about a nicest, you know, it was just a
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No, you had to use the I dice app on his iPhone, again, this
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donation dice.
Yeah, I like we need to do with one of the things right now we
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have some apps that are interesting things that are you
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Oh, yeah, okay,
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So we should probably remove that money and put it in
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Sorry put a website up showing all the art to as low gallery
Yeah, we got to fix all our URLs to man was sucking with that
shit sucking so I'm going to be in New York next week which will
be interesting we may have to do the show Wednesday night cuz I
actually I got meetings and I leave New York Thursday evening
so we'll have to kind of play that by ear
Wednesday night works when yeah I'm sure it does if you can get
a connection
well yeah I'm staying at Have you ever stayed at the the
Sophie tell on New York which has been completely redone?
I don't believe so. Oh,
my God it is it's because the Sophie tell kind of had like a
bit of a drippy image. But it's great. It's kind of like good
food at the Sophie tail. I didn't have a chance to eat
there yet. But now they have you know, besides just excellent
amenities and very stylish rooms, you know, kind of old
world New York which I like only it's all new and fresh and you
know, and it fits and it closes properly. So it's kind of like
the St. Regis only modern modernized, but at the same kind
of style. And they give you a hardwired connection, which I
love. I love a hardwired connection. I love a good hard
wired connection.
Now we'll see.
Yeah, we will be could suck. All right, and I'm coming out to San
Francisco after that for the entire month of
June. Yeah, that's something to deal with. Yeah.
Well, it's good. Thanks. It's gonna be interesting to see how
the show goes, I'm gonna have to find a way to watch BD
boneheads in California like the bull. Sorry about that. I had a
guy don't know what's going on. Maybe there's an international
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