Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Yeah, it's Cinco de Zepto. It's
time once again from the left hand shoulder of Gitmo nation.
This is no agenda. Hey, everybody coming to you from the
somewhat covert location in San Francisco, California. I'm Adam
curry.
And from a very warm northern Silicon Valley, the place it
doesn't exist but does heat up. I'm John C. Dvorak.
I don't have my fader box with me, so I had to do with the
mouse. Oh, a mouse. Sorry. No, with the trackpad even worse.
There's nothing worse than trying to hit a fader with a
trackpad. It just doesn't work.
Where's the fader?
It's on the software. No, I
mean, where's the little you have hardware to do this? Where
were you
brought the wrong box? Can you believe it? I have to. Yeah,
that's stupid. You know,
the way I when I travel, I use a checklist.
Unlike when you prepare for this show, you mean Yeah.
No, it's because I got sick and tired. I traveled enough. I got
sick and tired of like, showing up someplace and realize I
didn't even wasn't even wearing a belt.
What's what's on your checklist? Is it literally down to how many
socks and and you
know, I don't have the amounts but the checklist has all kinds
of stuff on it. And it's like,
it's your man. Let's see it. Let's hear your checklist.
I'm gonna let me go get it. Hang on a second.
I used to do these.
You're a pilot. I think Dad would think that you just do
them.
Now, man, I'm an airman not a pilot. There's a big difference,
man. We don't. We don't mess around. Dude.
airmen usually don't use a checklist.
No, and an airman has the checklist in his head.
Oh, brother. I guess I know. I know why your wife won't fly
with you.
Okay, travel. This is my ultimate ultimate travel check.
It was very long. I
mean, I'll read part one just do some highlights.
Flight boarding pass for confirmation number ticket
confirmation number hotels, confirmation number car rental
map, a very address of hotel itinerary contact names and
phone numbers, business cards, and acids. Appointment schedule.
And as no anti diarrheal calls. No, no, I
usually carry some acids usually in my pocket. Because when on
takeoff, usually on landing because of the change in the air
pressure. I did choose to get heartburn on landing. So I don't
know that's very typical, by the way. Yes. So I have so I had to
put on the checklist because I'll be like, oh geez, I don't
have any. Oh my Oh, my stomach's killing me. Okay, underwear,
socks, t shirt for sleeping. Extra shirt suit, comb. lectric.
toothbrush, toothpaste, floss razor women,
as opposed to the analog toothbrush.
Good point. Razor blades, black tie, always you have to get your
act. You
gotta have your black tie. You got to have if you're a woman,
you got to you got to have your little black fuck me dress. And
if you're a guy, you gotta have black tie. It's standard issue.
And I'm talking about a long tie. And you get you can get
these by the way, almost everywhere. But a black tie. In
other words, a regular
tie, like the one I was wearing last night, John. Yeah,
that's black goes with everything. And you should
always show if you forget anything that like if you want
to bring a special tie that look good. So
should the checklist fail than the checklist actually has a
backup built into it as what you're saying.
Right. Logical goes on and on. adapters.
So you know me I have a huge bag that I schlep around with me,
right? Yeah, that's where I only have a checklist. I have the
bag. I just know if I grab the bag and never write you never
unpacked the bag. No, of course not. Because everything I need
is in its a MacGyver bag. If that's true,
how come you forgot your fader buttons?
I brought my electric toothbrush.
That's not the that's not the answer to the question.
That was a on fortuitous
happens. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying if you had a checklist
that went on and on, by the way, here's some other cool stuff.
And there's like cold weather it spikes for ice. Shoes, what? You
know these things you wrap on your shoes and you walk you
go run. Like you take those on, on your checklist.
It's on the checklist for cold weather. It's a special
subcategory.
A special sub category.
Yeah, well, you all forget him. gaffers tape is on the
checklist.
Because in case you break your arm, or you know because gaffer
tape can fix anything,
gaffers tape is very handy and it's really useful.
It's the cat's meow.
And what I do with the gaffers tape is I actually take a number
of strips and put it on the suitcase itself.
Oh, you're one of those people. Yeah. Oh that I don't like
what's wrong with that. It looks lame.
You can't tell it's a black suitcase. You won't even know
the gaffers tape is on there.
The what he put it on,
because I don't want to have a roll of gaffers tape clogging up
the suitcase. I'd packed very lightweight homeless
again, you put the you wrap it around the handle?
No, no, it's across the back of the suitcase and at the bottom,
just a big piece of a couple pieces about Oh, you don't say
you don't take a roll? No, God, no. Oh, no.
I think I have a roll of gaffer tape with me. In who had that
bag with me, someone said Ah, shit, man, the wireless mic
crapped out, Oh, no problem, I have one of my bag.
Anyway, then then another subcategories processes. So I
did this. By the way, this checklist is mostly just check,
check, check. It doesn't take it takes like an extra two minutes
out of my day to go through the list. But I always wonder as
well Oh, geez. I forgot that. One of the then on the processes
is stuff like set the lights, feed the dog water, the plants
throw out the garbage,
you have a process list. So stuff you have to do before you
leave. Yeah.
And then one of the things there's a couple things one,
actually visibly look to make sure that my driver's license is
on me because I still valid. I know, I know. Well, I went to
the airport once and there was no driver's license. It was a
disaster.
You can't ID yourself and you can't go anywhere.
Yeah, heaven forbid, in this Nazi state.
I bought some, some medication the other day at the pharmacy.
And they and I had to show my ID and they registered it and then
I had to sign a waiver and agree that I wouldn't make drugs out
of it. Because I guess the active ingredient in a lot of
this decongestant stuff is what they use for crystal meth. Yeah.
And it was like, whoa.
Anyway, and I just, you know, just check the stove, stuff like
that. But anyway, it was not a bad thing to had to do. Because
occasionally, you know, there's nothing worse than walking out
of the house driving down the street and saying, Did I cook in
this morning?
The stove, on the stove
on simmer, you know, that kind of thing? I shall turn off the
Wi Fi. I gotta do that.
I think you should publish this list. I think that's very handy
for people who want a baseline who wants to travel in style,
like the International Man of Mystery, John C. Dvorak.
Yeah, I could,
I think it'd be good idea.
There's very little, there's a couple things that are
individual to me, but for the most part, I could just publish
this thing.
So dude, a lot of wacky stuff going on. I've done very little.
So a couple things. Some programming notes. We're not
streaming this live the hotel? I don't know, something's messed
up. But we had to get the show going. So should we just stream
it live? stream it after the fact?
Yeah, why don't you do that? Okay. I'll do that. I guess
people that like to listen to it early before it gets onto the
network. They can listen to it.
It'll be very close. Because you know, the one thing is, it's
really crazy this the hotel. And it really depends on what time
of course you're on the network, because you know, it gets
overloaded, I guess at peak times of the day. But the upload
speed sometimes is like, like 10 megabit upload speed. All of a
sudden I was I published the show the other day, it was up in
30 seconds. I've never ever witnessed that. That was cool.
Wow. Imagine how much time and energy and how much the economy
would actually improve just by the time savings of more
bandwidth for everybody. Yeah, I mean, you're I agree.
Yeah, cuz you sit.
You wait for everything all day long. And we're such slaves to
the waiting.
I know it should be a top priority of Obama. I think it
is. So I'm watching the some news show. And they're showing
Obama giving a speech. He went I didn't hear the speech. But it
just showed him. I've never seen this before. I mean, this guy's
the president. But he's standing behind a podium bunch of flags
behind him. The opposed the podium does not have the
Presidential seal. And I'm trying to decide whether this is
an old clip or not. It doesn't have the Presidential seal that
propodeum has got a sign in front of him with the Obama
logo, and then keeping America competitive written on it. And
then www Barack obama.com. So as he basically get, you know,
decided to just do his own thing while being president.
I keep getting emails from Barack obama.com. And because I
you know, I signed up, obviously, I signed up for a lot
of candidates, and you signed up to the to the list, you really
should sign up, because it's amazing what you get, you know,
and there's always organizing something. They're always
looking for more donations. I'm not quite sure how that works.
Can the President continue to take donations while he's
president,
I guess, for his reelection campaign, he can. Why not?
And it's not even. It's not even clear that it's for his
reelection. And campaign, it's just,
well, maybe it's just to keep the staffers going to maybe keep
Barack obama.com up and running. I just find it peculiar.
What was the what was like, what they
did now that he's doing it, everybody after him is going to
do this. There's two things. There's two things out there
every present, you know, every new guy comes along, like Reagan
came along, and he did certain things, you know, he'd be kept
depressed at bay and did certain kinds of speeches, and everybody
now wants to do that. I mean, Bush is the only one probably
never really instituted anything original. But anyway, so he
comes out. So Brock comes on, he has press conferences
constantly. He's always on the TV. He's got his own thing going
to Barack obama.com with his own logo instead of the Presidential
seal. And I mean, it just like, You got to assume that, you
know, this is the new standard.
What is he? What is he talking about? Well, I don't know.
Because they
were they were just showing a clip and talking over it. So I
don't know what he was talking about. But it was obviously
something there was a big breaking news story this week,
which I just MSNBC had the you know, the equivalent of stop
depresses is breaking news that they put on these TV stations,
and in the case of MSNBC, they actually went live. Brock Obama
and Joe Biden ordering a hamburger. And that was breaking
news. Yeah, it was breaking news on MSNBC. And they had a gaggle
reporter on the spot. And then they had a mic on him. And
Barack Obama saying, like, get a cheeseburger, and was mustard.
Do you think the audience actually sees the irony of this?
And no, no ketchup? And you have good you have fries with that?
And oh, we got these potato tots. Oh, are they good? And
often eat a hamburger. We after hearing all this dialogue, I'm
thinking, what are they wasting our time for? What is wrong with
these people at MSNBC? Breaking news stop depresses Barack Obama
eats a hamburger?
Oh, my goodness. Yeah, you know, I have turned on the TV a couple
of times in these past few weeks. And it's I can't watch
it, John. It's unfreaking. watchable. It's just one dumb
thing after another. It's so so stupid.
Well, these, these cable guys are crazy.
But that's all the time. I mean, the network's during the day,
there's nothing really nice. It's all drama that I'm totally
not interested in. And then you switch around and it's just it
looks like every channel is a kind of news channel or have
some breaking news or a ticker underneath or? And it's Yeah,
dumb.
Yes. So the big breaking news was, of course, Elizabeth
Edwards going on Oprah. And essentially, you know, get
yourself giving her a sob story about her. You know, narrative.
Well, husband, you had maybe a baby with this woman while
running for president they brought they brought out a
couple of interesting facts. Apparently everybody in his
staff and including some people quit the campaign while he was
running for president. Everybody knew this was going on. And you
know, and the likelihood, I mean, he could have been
President of the United States. And you know, it would have been
like, unbelievably, it'd be unbelievable disaster for the
Democrat Party. Because I mean, it was already borderline and he
already apparently, you know, I mean, when he ran for, for vice
president against Bush. I mean, he's probably a philandering
guy, then he was just, you know, one of those guys, but you know,
he was, he always seemed like a sleazeball to me with that hair.
You know, it's a stupid looking haircut, and he would pick
parently spend a fortune on on it, and he'd always and there
are a lot of clips on YouTube where he gets all bent out of
shape, where he's looking in the mirror. And he's, you're mad at
makeup artists, you know, and he's primping himself. And to be
honest,
he's a member of the elite. This is exactly what these people are
all about. They don't care show business for Ugly people. How
many times I have to say it.
Well, it's pretty Yeah. What's your favorite quotes? A good
quote, by the way,
but it's absolutely I used to say that to my uncle Don, and he
would crack up. He's like, man, you're horrible. You dropped out
of school. You're making 10 times more money than I am. So
yep, you chose show business for Ugly people. Uncle Don. There
you go. He did have a cool red phone though.
Red phones are cool.
And I picked it up once. Yeah, yeah. Like I was a kid. You
know, I picked it up was like, White House operator. How can I
help you Mr. Greg? Like, click on a hung up. Yeah, like, like,
like that was the right thing to do. 15 phones start ringing
buzzer start going. Old days. So, of course, I've been really
busy here in San Francisco at the office. and haven't had a
lot of time to prep but a couple of stories you know, of course
keep lingering and the the the 747 Fly by the story just gets
weirder by the day. I don't know if you caught that. The white
I'm sure you did the White House says they will not be releasing
the pictures of the $300,000 photo op.
Why not?
Well, it's a matter of national security. Of course. Here's what
I think was going on, John, I think that this plane was
probably filled with friends and family groupies, Democratic
Party leaders, you know, it was a joy ride. And sure it was a
photo op. It was a photo op for all the people on the plane.
Hey, man, come on. We'll go we'll go bus New York noon, come
on last week. Now someone was on. It could have been Biden, I
can just see Biden's sitting on the plane with you know, it's a
joy ride. And by the way, that's okay. Because that's how
business is done. And I'm totally cool with it. You know,
that's a it's a tool. It's a tool of our Commander in Chief,
our CEO, our chief executive, you know, a
man who has a yacht and he puts all his you know, clients on a
yacht and they have
no problem whatsoever. I think that is absolutely okay. I think
that's a, it's a it would be I would be honored and privileged.
If I were asked to fly on this aircraft, it is a symbol of the
United States blahdy blahdy, blah. But then you can just see
Joe Biden, the dawn, as you could just see him with all
these people like, Hey, watch this. Go to the cockpit and say,
Hey, boys, let's buzz man Hatton.
Can you loop around the Statue of Liberty before? It's once
you know, and that's what the f 16 was doing? You know, it's
there for protection. It's got to be something like that.
Because if the public finds out, because the public will not
understand what we do understand, you know, it's okay,
this is a tool, that's fine. So, but this is not transparency.
That's the that's the same relieves me the most, you know,
it's like, Come on, man. It, it's no big deal. Just say I am
alright. You know, Barack Obama was great at apologizing the
first 14 days. I'm sorry, I screwed up. I messed up. My
administration messed up. My guys didn't do a good job. You
know, people appreciate that. Why not now?
Don't know. I think the transparency thing is bogus.
It's obvious. Meanwhile, one of the things going on, it's kind
of interesting to me, when I caught this, and I have a clip
here, which we'll play is the Democrats. You know, it's
interesting to watch. If you remember, like four years ago,
people saying, you know, the Democrats are going to be a dead
party. They can't do anything right there. Boehner has, you
know, the Republicans just beat him in every way they can and
the Republicans are on top of the world. Now the thing is
switched over to such an extreme the other way so quickly, which
by the way, the stock market can do that kind of thing, too, by
the way. So quickly that now according to a couple of polls,
only 20% of Americans will admit to being Republicans, you know,
most of the mainstream Republicans kind of humiliated
by the takeover the party by the extreme nutcases. And then the
people that are actual conservatives, whether they're
extreme nutcases or not call themselves conservatives, they
won't call themselves Republicans. And so what do
you have to? Do you have to what do you have to call yourself a
Republican?
In the olden days, at least 40% of the public would say they're
a Democrat or a Republican, but you only have a number show
lowers almost nobody admitting to it. And by the
way, for people who are not American citizens, and for many
of you who are there are other parties you can be affiliated
with. It is not a two party system, just so you know, Google
it is that it's true. Save the world. It's a one party system.
Yeah. So John Skoll, my friend. Welcome to the other side.
I've always said that you got it from me. Okay. So anyway, but I
think that what did one of the new stories is going around is
the one based on this clip that I have if you have it queued up,
which is from the hardball show, and I just caught it by accident
is
Chris Matthews. Yeah, I think I might have seen this.
Yeah, this is Chris Matthews talking to this Republican from
the sixth district of Indiana and the people in the sixth
district should be ashamed of themselves for electing a guy
that's stupid.
We're gonna go all across the country with these energy
summits hear from the American people and we're going to
educate the American people on a 21st century Republican agenda
for the environment. You want
to educate the American people about science and its relevance
today. Do you believe in evolution, sir?
I do. I believe in evolution.
I love it when people We'll repeat the question, which is so
obvious like, oh crap ship, think think think think think
think think that's probably what miss him would miss California
was thinking maybe
I embrace the the view that God created the heavens and the
earth and the seas and all that's in them. Right? Do you
believe in evolution is the means, Chris that he used to do
that? I can't say but I do believe well do you believe?
Did you take biology in school? Did you take science which is
all based on evolutionary belief and assumption? Do you believe
another The reason I'm asking this I'm not. Party was
incredible on science, you've got to accept science do you
always wanted to play and Inherit the Wind? But on the
global warming issue? I know that in the mainstream, you're
hedging. This is why people don't trust the mainstream
media. Chris, there is a denial of the growing skepticism in the
scientific community about global warming. Well,
do you have a global history? Is there a rising skepticism about
evolution? Wait a minute, let me get this straight. So is this
guy saying that the earth is warming up or not?
I don't know what he's saying. He seems to be just, you know,
here's what there's a basic tenant, I think at play here.
There's a group of Republicans that are brought in by you know,
very conservative Christians that have and you know, this is
actually a minority of Christians that believe that the
earth was is only 6000 years old. And they, but they're very
noisy about it. And by the way, one of these people is George
Gilder a very famous technology. Maven, who has a newsletter, and
he's, you know, desperate tells people what stocks to invest in,
and by the way, who is adored by John Doerr. But anyway, Gilder
is a part of this, this was some of the reasons this is
happening, because Gilders operation up in the Seattle
area, I can't think of the name of it right now. But he just
pumps in millions into this. And so this floats around this
notion that there was only 6000 years old, and dinosaurs were
here, you know, for a few minutes, and I guess we lived
with him and petted him and had him as pets, and God knows what,
but whatever the case is, a bunch of Republicans, there's
way too many Republicans in office that are essentially
ideologues and and I think that the lot of these conservative
Christians that believe in this, and I still think it's a
minority, I have taken over the party. And so all Matthews is
doing and it had to happen long time ago in California, the
Republican Party in California has long since been taken over
by guys who have a very their ideological on a religious
basis, very much like the Taliban, they won't give in on
any points. And they just assumed they don't even want to
run people that can win. They want to run people that believe
what they believe. And so they can't beat anybody. And that's
it. Now their whole party has gone this way. In Texas, for
sure. In California, for sure. And obviously in Indiana with
this bonehead. And so we're gonna we're just the only reason
Arnold Schwarzenegger even got in is because they,
he kind of was bone in Maria Shriver know
it because he snuck in during a recall election. That's right,
and they didn't have time to organize against him after that
they killed Shandra leaving. Just keep saying it, keep doing
this. But anyway, the point is, is that the party, generally
speaking, is becoming just a religious party. So and I know,
obviously, for the Republicans, as they say, you know, they're
scared to death of this because they know they're never going to
get elected again. Yeah, this is
very interesting. Particularly when you think of the of the
concept that it's really a one party system, perhaps the the
real party, the party behind the party has just deserted the
Republican Party. You know what I mean? And that's why you only
have, you know, 20% leftover who have a particular view, which
they're welcome to have it obviously, think is very
interesting. You say they're just like the Tali bomb because,
yeah, it sounds to me just as radical, you know, and, by the
way, power to him.
Hey, I ain't got nothing against it. I just think if people want
to, you know, if the Republican Party wants to get, you know,
ever get a president and again, or get the house in the Senate
back, right now, they're hoping upon hope that Obama screws up
so badly. You know, by the way, they had the same hope upon
hope, and Clinton got in, and Clinton just, you know, rode
them to the ground for eight years. And if it wasn't for
Clinton's own personal foibles, you know, they probably the
Democrats probably would have still been in there. And they
obviously, were also running in that case, like Al Gore didn't
help. But the point is, is that the Democrats could stay in
forever. If, you know if the Republicans are gonna go in this
direction and become instead of the Republican Party, a
religious party, they are the religious party. So if you vote
for them, you're voting for like a specific religion that isn't
necessarily what you know, everybody belongs to. I mean,
not everybody has an evangelical Christian type who believes that
the earth is was created 6000 years ago. And by the way, we
blog this all the time, and there's a new, there's in Texas,
there's a good blog post on how the Texas Board of Education
kind of voted in that, you know, the Earth was, you know, maybe
6000 years old, just and it's on YouTube. It's hilarious.
But what does that mean? So that's going to be taught in
schools or,
wow, that's what they want to do. I mean, it's, I don't know,
you gotta listen to this thing yourself. And it's kind of they
were just doing some, they're cutting something out of some of
the papers. Some of the younger while the board of education
works with, they have apparently a bunch of doctrines, and they
have to change this and that they were kind of getting trying
to push evolution out. But the point is, is that you have, you
know, the, there's only certain religions that actually believe
this 6000 year thing. And it's not the majority of people,
although, every time they do a poll of the US public now, it
turns out that almost half the people in this country, don't
believe in evolution anymore. Because it's, you know, this,
this drumbeat of non outstays has never been proven, has been,
you know, essentially, it were stupefying the public. These
guys aren't helping things much. But the problem is when you have
a religious party, which is essentially what's happening
here, you know, the religious people don't agree with each
other. I mean, the Luther is don't get along with a Methodist
and the Baptist have their own way of doing things. They don't
even think you can drink wine, even though that's in the Bible.
And you know, so you get all these kinds of little religious
things going on within the group. And that doesn't do
anybody any good when we're all we really want to do is balance
the budget and you know, and keep out of trouble.
So this does kind of flow into an interesting email that I
received from one of our younger producers from Gitmo nation
east. James, who is can you turn on your speakers, John?
Oh, thank you. It's a little early in the show to say, Yeah,
I
want people to have a drink early. All right. James is 16
years old. And he's from the UK. And so this relates back to
crazy shit our kids are being taught in school I'll just read
this verbatim because it's so beautiful and I love the fact
that we've got a younger audience tuning in and and
switching on Hey, Adam and John today at school in my GCSE
chemistry class let's you're a high school equivalency. We were
each handed a sheet and asked to use the internet to research
Monsanto to find out about their, quote, better way to make
a weed killer, and how they are improving farming processes
through chemicals. I was shocked at this early indoctrination of
today's youth by love this kid by large corporations such as
Monsanto. When I raised this point to my friends, I was
simply dismissed as a conspiracy theorist. I've managed to poor
kid I've met I know what you're gonna go through soon. I managed
to convert one of them to listening to no agenda, and I
hope more will follow suit shortly. I just thought you and
John might be interested in Monsanto's penetration into the
education system. Thanks and keep up the excellent podcasting
essential that is no agenda in the morning.
So yeah, well you know, it's marketing I've been in Monsanto
should be if I was in Monsanto's marketing team, it would and I
could get and I could actually manage to do this. Yeah. I'd be
all over it.
In that just outrageous, though.
Yeah. Yeah, of course. Well, it's what's outrageous is the
teacher. Yeah.
Is it part of the syllabus, though? That's what I want to
know. Are the teacher just say, Oh, well, you know, this is they
must have been marketed. Yes, probably some folder or some
flyer in the teacher's lounge.
Yeah. Are they out are they give them a free goodie bag and you
know, t shirt and some stuff.
Some flatware?
flatware.
We really need to get our flatware
flat where we gotta get Yeah, we do as a matter of fact. So I got
a note from David Koch, who donated the 1776 that we ah,
yes. Which was 1976. I'm sorry. Yeah. The 1976. The 1970s You
said was a was a 200 year anniversary. 1776 which it was
that may have been not been the right. I don't know his
intention was the following. The first meeting for 1976 is for
Adam. It's the Year of the original swine flu outbreak. Ah,
of course. Now that I should have known,
you should have actually and but the second one he said was for
me, it turns out that 1976 was the year or the general
consensus is that Mandel bought began working on his Mandelbrot
set of fractals. That kitties is what we call a fractal.
All right, so that's these people who would decide these
things. It's Unbeliev So let's go over a couple guys. We should
mention this week while we're here. I really want to do it
this early. Okay, that's cool. Well, at the end, we should
probably remind people that they should we, you know, the
donations kind of fell off last week because we didn't hound
them enough. And so we probably have to do it twice. And
we have to explain that you know, there's a reason behind
all this for instance, you know, we spent an exorbitant amount of
money last night to review the Four Seasons restaurant
right and that costs money it does cost money like to make
this you know, some something that actually pays you know, for
itself and we need donations to do that and we're not going to
do advertising No. Okay, so Chris Clark and John Matthews
both that gave us $50 last week and John Cosme Kazi mono and
Lawrence is it poker folk? And I'm gonna have to look it up I
may have to read
what is written on a piece of paper or something. I
wrote it down yet but I my P looks like it could be an AW or
an F. So it could be it's Lauren's the rock
pulk or folk, my pee smells of asparagus.
And he gave us 100 bucks, which I appreciate and Villanelle I
guess I mentioned his name in there lifted my
mispronunciations. We got the 1776 guy. We got to 1701 I don't
know what that means. Any ideas?
1701
Some guy Dave, Robert sent us $6.24 About five times in a row.
What do you think that is? 624 Is there anything? 624? Is that
some?
It's maybe a drug reference now? No. No, not that I can think of.
And then somebody who obviously didn't want to get their name
mentioned because they wouldn't give the 50 didn't get to the
$50 level they but they gave 4871
And now we are all these pre pay pals big.
Yeah, these are all pre Pay Pal. thing was just how much was it
for what 4871? Any ideas?
No. I mean, I'm still catching up to the 2112 which I got about
100 emails from that that was you know, that's a famous rush
song. I believe that's what it is to probably the rush fans
have always been so incredibly dedicated and vigorous
throughout the years, right even on MTV and because MTV never
played rush never played rush. If there was two things because
they hated Canada. There was two things people hated about MTV.
We didn't play a rush and we didn't play New Kids on the
Block. And the New Kids on the Block it was always number one
on dial MTV, which was the the predecessor to TRL it was always
number one because of course the New Kids on the Block were
absolutely the shit. Certainly with Marky Mark, you know, they
were cute bunch of kids. And then we're doing that little,
little thing and MTV refused to play it.
Well, I guess you know, they had their reasons. They thought it
was LAME. Well, wasn't it?
Yeah, but I like giving the people what they want.
So the apparently the World Health Organization when the
swine flu thing broke out, there's you know, they made the
the comment that the all of humanity is at risk.
Yeah, this is getting weirder. Because now of course, in the
United States, it's been categorized as seasonal flu. And
that they're not only do they say the world population is at
risk, but they raise their their level to five, which means
pandemic is imminent. And the next level apparently the
highest is six, which means hello, you're all effed. And now
I'm hearing well, you know, the one that's coming in August,
that's gonna be the one that's gonna kill you.
Oh, I haven't heard this. What's this about?
Oh, jeez. Oh, no, now they're saying they're certainly saying
it in the United Kingdom because I've heard this from friends and
family. That not where we're lucky in the UK only 5050 cases
of swine flu and no one actually in Wandsworth, which isn't too
far from from where the terrorist is. And it's okay, no
one's dying. We're all gonna be okay. But the one that's coming
this fall, the one that's coming at the end of the year, that's
going to be the big one. That's going to be the one that kills
everybody, literally.
You kidding me?
No. So I think this, the whole notion of the beta test is
right. So what you're seeing now is, here's what I predict. It's
pretty simple. Everything's in high gear. First of all, George
Bush was getting massive props on that maybe maybe it was Chris
Mack Chris Matthews. I don't know he was getting massive
props. Because he had stockpiled bill a couple billion dollars
worth of, of Tamiflu. So oh, all hail the chief Good job. They're
hooking your buddy Rumsfeld up before you ever leave. Is the
frickin virus that Tamiflu stops. So what's going to happen
now is obvious everyone's going to have to be vaccinated
vaccinated before the big one, which is going to hit in autumn.
And this is going to be I think one of the biggest debates we'll
see this year will be vaccinate or not.
Will you know it seems to me they have their normal seasonal
flu vaccine, which comes out in
October. Yeah, but we need a neuron we need we need stocks to
go to China.
What is that just as interim flu? I mean, what are they
trying to do sell the flu shot twice a year? I mean, what's the
point of this? Well, I think is a marketing scheme. Yeah, it's a
marketing. You're make twice as much money. Sure.
Did you see the rock rushes stock skyrocket?
Yeah. How are we You should have seen that coming. Hello.
Well, we were reading the annual reports almost a year ago where
they literally said the imminent will bird flu is what they were
talking about the imminent bird flu is is putting a billion
dollars into our pipeline. We're going to be rich next year by
now while stocks are low. It's not like you're hiding anything.
I know. But we didn't buy.
Okay, yeah, exactly. We didn't buy into it.
You know, that's the problem.
So watch for that come to Gitmo nation West. I'm sure the states
will, will be that'll be the next. The next story about the
swine flu you watch. It'll be Oh, well. And by the way, the
CDC, I must have seen 15 Different spokespeople for the
CDC, there. And it was almost like they were testing which guy
worked the best, you know, so we had kind of like the doctor we
had, you know what, the big guy in a white coat, he'd be the
doctor, then you'd have the PR guy. And then some woman who's
like decked out with fruit salad of metals. I don't know what you
get metals for when you're working the CDC, but she had
him. You know, it was like a militaristic thing on stage.
So that Yeah, I think that wouldn't be Italian. So who's
the best who's photogenic? And they do a focus group afterwards
and figure out who the spokesman is going to be? Yep. Yeah. Well,
you know, I reminded when I was in Holland, not to bore people
with more Holland stories. When we go to these different
restaurants and one case was obvious. They were practicing
everybody in the restaurant waited on us because they wanted
to practice some English with the new employees. I guess. We
never had the same weight person twice in a row. And it was like
15 people one after another coming up to help us never the
same guy was always someone different. You know, one of them
couldn't speak English at all, which was hilarious,
but and was the food. Okay.
We'll talk about I'm writing a report on the food the food.
Okay, good. We had a good meal last night. We ate
it. Seasons. Well, you know, I was disappointed overall. Now
seasons is the for the
steak. It was probably because I was drunk. That's why. Oh,
sorry. My mic is crapping up. We had a lot to drink. Certainly
for for me, you know, Mr. Mr. Williams. Last one shot.
Yeah, that's true. Three people. You know, here's a couple of
things you should note. Where's my doggie bag? Oh, shit. Did you
forget it? I know. I was never good. I
saw I saw them with it. I saw them packet. I bet you I
literally put it right next to your chair. And you just want it
without it.
Well, anyway, to put it down on the floor.
Clearly you forgot otherwise you would have said Hey,
where's my dog? You know, I always ate that was testing and
was gonna see because usually if you got what doggie bag,
especially when that was the last people in the place where
you're leaving. Somebody says hey, yeah, hey, your bag.
Well, that's points off that that's a fail actually, seasons
fails on that. You can't charge that much money and then fail on
the doggy bag. Exactly. No, the other one was the art. Let me
just I'll probably gonna say it before you do our server. You
know, we ordered some some nice alcohol and there was there she
was not a sommelier. And that her presentation skills were non
zero.
Yeah, well, suddenly somebody a parent wasn't working at night
anyway, but we got good wine. The point is though, I know in
the last bottle, I didn't see that. I think they finish off
the first bottle but that we had two guys three of us there and
we had a second bottle and they left wine in the bottle. I was
keeping tabs on it because it was like, you know, because they
just because when she was pouring her last round, she was
pouring pouring pouring in that she and she could have poured it
out. You know and there was not a bunch of goo in there or
anything. But she didn't she left it in there for some
reason. And I
was like a glass not a glass full.
That was at least it was all it was a good it would have been a
good half a glass full and it with a normal like a small eight
ounce glass.
That should put that to your lips boy. In
fact, it wasn't that thirsty. So I was waiting from the Doosan
and that thing disappears. You know So I guess somebody needed
a shot of wine in the back. But I thought that was an but the
service overall was good except for the screw ups there. I
thought that the food was actually very tasty. Generally
speaking, there's a steak house with a variety of versions of
different steak. And it's probably as good as any
Steakhouse, you know, except I think there's a place in
Berkeley that has the best steak in the Bay Area. And I thought
the data place was a little I thought the atmosphere was a
little funky for four seasons. I thought it wasn't as ritzy.
Yeah, kind of like they didn't know what they want to be if
they want to be like Ian schrager type place, or a
classic four seasons vibe, which I appreciate more honestly.
Yeah. And so you just seemingly, you know, a Marriott kind of
thing.
Hold on a second. No. No, it was better than a Marriott kind of
thing. I know the Marriot.
All right. So anyway, but the point is, is that I was looking
at Yelp and the Yelpers they did a lot of people liked it, but
most people cited the good service and the service was
attentive.
It was very we had Yeah, very, very nice servers. She was She
right? Extremely attached and weird. You know, like, we all
had to taste the champagne. Like,
I don't get that. I mean, what's the point of that?
I mean, but you don't even do even taste champagne. The way
you taste wine for No, no, you just pour it you drink it right?
Yeah. Especially when it's served by the glass. You know,
they should be tasting it back then. We
didn't we didn't buy a bottle. That wasn't our bottle. No, it
was just three glasses.
I thought I got a refill. Well, if you got to refill
it, you check did they charge it for a second glass? I don't
remember getting a refill. By the time I was signing the
check. I was so flustered. I'm like, Well, why
like it yeah, I'm a lightweight you know, I am.
Yeah, it's amusing. So anyway, I overall, you know, I would I if
you're in if you're staying at the hotel, you want to get a
good steak. I think that's a good place to go. That meets
quite tasty. The one you had the Porterhouse was actually quite
delicious. And the rest of the stuff was good. But there wasn't
anything. There was no fault with the food. I just thought to
the place itself lacked of good, like the vibe.
Also lacked customers.
Yeah, that's what I think it was one of the reasons I think,
well, maybe the place the place wasn't cheap. But the same time.
Yeah, they didn't have it wasn't a jump in joint I would suspect
that they're probably going to have to redesign the thing
completely. And I think maybe it's days is a steak house are
numbered
was the was the wine. That is what was expensive, because the
bill was outrageous.
I don't know, I didn't see the bill. That was one bottle of
wine was $120. Okay, well, then it makes sense. And the other
ball was like 80. So it's
alright, then it makes sense. So what's still I would say value
for money, but I was a value for money, even without the wine.
No.
Yeah, no, I mean, we've we've recommended places that are I
mean, compare that to the you know, sub $100 total bill at
Limone. Place I mean, that's value for the money lively
atmosphere, terrific food. You know, I would I would not
recommend the kind of place that we were supposed to not go to
anymore. But you had your friend in from Holland is very bright.
She was just adorable. And so we had to you wanted to show her
off? I did. So we probably could have gone to someplace else. But
anyway, whatever the case was it so
she hated the champagne, but I guess she was too too polite to
say anything. She saw this she I love the champagne. It was the
best champagne I've ever
had. Really it was on Rio. He was really
smooth and she said oh no, I don't that's not doesn't taste
like shampoo. I guess she likes kind of the biting taste.
But she likes a chunkier style. Actually, honoree Oh, generally
speaking is used to be a chalky style. No, no, very smooth. It
was good.
I liked it. I'm not a champagne drinker either.
But she looks at the type when you meet demanding Dom Perignon
all the time. Yep, that's that's how I roll Johnny Boy. Yeah,
well, that'll wreck the bill up. Anyway, so
I got it. Got it. Tell you another funny thing because, you
know, we had a very interesting conversation. In fact, I think
did the evening ended an argument where you arguing about
I was quite loud.
upright, you didn't take a swing at her.
Don't mess with my country. I'm very defensive about my country.
And it's an end when people don't and so he she. I think she
even said this is how it started. He said I don't
understand America. If you elect a black president, and
everyone's like, yeah, we're no longer racist. Oh, yeah. You be
black president, but then you vote against gay marriage.
As as a connection. Yeah.
And that that was like, you know, it's almost like there was
this huge switch in the middle of my forehead that said, pull
here to watch explosion.
Well, I mean, Alicia key
perception that she's intelligent. That's the
perception outside our borders. That's how it's perceived, we're
seen as wacky. And by the way, it's as if the entire country
has voted against gay marriage, which is not true.
Right? I mean, Maine is legal in Massachusetts.
I mean, there's plenty of places online all the time. And but
again, this they don't get
that either. They don't get the states rights things
that the federal government is actually subservient to the
states. We all forgotten,
right? If they would get that they would probably have a
better shot at making the EU work. Exactly. Because they
don't the EU doesn't, you know, they there's no acknowledgement
of individual countries rights. I mean, they won't let
in fact, the Lisbon Treaty will remove the individual sovereign
rights of each country, right? What are you gonna say about the
Swedes?
Well, like the Swedes can't put certain labels on their jellies
the indicating where they're from? Because it you know, it'll
build it will violate some somehow insults the Germans or
something like that. Because you know, if I want to buy a jam
made in Sweden, because they grow some berries up there that
I like, I can't they won't be able to label it in such a way
that I'll know it's from Sweden and not from God knows where
that kind of thing you know, it's ridiculous and that's and
they you know, the telling the French how to make cheese. I
mean, I'm sure you know, what's going to the end result is
they're going to actually at some point, the EU is going to
ban the manufacture of Roquefort cheese, which is a very is a
slightly poisonous product.
We I think we've talked about this
Yeah, rock for Diem, which is the
so what does this have some poison in there or something?
Yeah, it's, it's usually let's do enough research. If you don't
make this stuff exactly. Right. You can cause it's like killing
anybody. But it has a toxic quality to it. I mean, it's,
so we have to we have to get into Gitmo nation where
something very interesting happened this week with Michael
Savage radio talk show host in, in the United States. And you
sent me a link to the show, which I didn't listen to. But I
was listening to the BBC World Service yesterday morning, and
they had an entire item about it. And an even an interview in
soundbite with the Homeland Security. Secretary Jack wacky
Jackie,
Jackie. Jackie.
You want to lay into it? Yeah, go? No. Why don't you uh, once
you set it up. Oh, I thought you
had a clip. No, no, no, I
wish I were that prepared, John. That would mean I had an agenda.
So anyway, so what happened was wacky Jackie put out a list of
16 people that are going to be banned from the UK because they
simply don't like them.
Now remember, the last time someone was banned from the UK
was feared builders, the Dutch politician who made the anti
Islamic movie and before that it was Martha Stewart who was not
allowed into the United Kingdom because she was a convicted
felon.
So there they named Michael Savage with in a list of
essential Nazis, Islamic murderers, a whole bunch of
really horrible creepy people and in Him, because they they've
thought his talk show like the UK cares, was filled with hate
speech or something like that is not
compatible with the culture and the laws of the United Kingdom.
Right. And so
no one's ever heard of this guy in the United Kingdom ever. And
why would he? Was he planning a trip that he filed for a visa?
Oh, they just put him on a frickin list for no reason.
Somebody
put him on the list. And this is what everybody wants to know
why,
what the hell that Hello, John. I gotta blow my nose. Talk to
the audience.
So anyway, the question is, why would they put this guy on the
list? Who put him on the list? Because she doesn't know who he
is? She just, you know, had some students do it, I think is
because it's either, you know, the big beef that he's gotten
into, was with the that CIA or the Council of Islamic or
American Islamic Relations, which is a front organization
for god knows what, but they're pretty much you know, a lot of
there's just it's a sketchy group. And but they're, you
know, they managed to was this car the Council of American
Islamic Relations. And they you know, they hate a bunch of
people they hate Michael Savage because he's always harping on
you know, Islamist
they So you're telling me just telling me this is why he was
banned because of his anti Islamic attitude? I think so.
This makes no sense. And exactly what everyone's against. I'm
just
telling you what I think. And they you know, this care group
is against you know, they've they've tried to submarine
Daniel Pipes who is a editorial writer, but quite talented who
has a ongoing feud with this group. And I think that they
have their fingers in a lot of pies and I think obviously
somewhere in the British Foreign Office there is somebody you
know that's that had you know there's let's get rid of this
guy let's give him the because Savage in the care had a lawsuit
that was going back and forth over some misuse of his
material. And and savage ended up winning the lawsuit, even
though it was costly to him against care. And I think this
is payback. I think care you know, said okay, you think
you're hotshot let me show you something that'll crack you up.
And so they somehow they got somebody in England, obviously,
I mean, it'd be pretty big organization well funded. And
there's probably obviously somebody in the hole in the in
the British Foreign Office, who just watched waltz the name over
to wacky Jackie, who was an obvious moron. And here, this
guy's got to be on this list. And, and boom, she puts him on,
and these guys are laughing haha, this is hilarious. Look
what we did. And meanwhile, now, of course, you know, the English
are starting to listen to this guy, because he never did
before. There's a poll that was just taken by the Daily Mail. I
think he said that, you know, only 2020. They said, What
should this guy be banned from England? And 80% of the readers
said, No, he shouldn't? What would why? Who cares? And so now
I think an investigation is in order as to why this guy got on
the list. We'll get it one way versus
But will I even be able to return to the United Kingdom?
Will I be able to return to the United States? I mean, this puts
everybody in jeopardy.
Yeah, does this is
and can this guy not be seen as a part of free press as No, just
a little thing you might want to mention,
as far as everybody's concerned, everybody except that of course,
he harps on this, you know, everybody's interviewed him and
talked about this on most of the networks. And the curious thing
about it, which he brought up on one of his shows recently is
shows by the way, just now interviews with other people
supporting him so it's really boring. But is the fact that Fox
News will not cover the story. Really. Yeah, Fox News is a bit
conservative, you know, fair and balanced, blah, blah, blah. They
won't cover it and if we're in the curious and I don't know
what why. But obviously somebody at Fox has got the same kind of
hard on for this guy. And they refuse to even touch it with a
10 foot pole they won't let anybody talk about It's just
strange so very
interesting though. When you when you think about who has
been banned from the United Kingdom so you have and I'm not
against any religion or any group of people for anything.
Except morons. I think we should kill all morons.
But speech you have a hatred against morons.
So this is another thing that's in the news is the hate speech.
Regulations. Have you been following any of that? Oh, yeah,
yeah, so what is it that I didn't quite catch it?
Pedophilia pedophiles are protected under the hate speech
act but veterans weren't It was weird.
Yeah, they these things you know start going into things like
hate speech which is nebulous at best. It's becomes
but what is wrong with hate speech? What is wrong with hate?
Right. I
think it's protected by the concept. Yes,
it should in the United States. It is protected by the
Constitution.
Yeah, I would think I hate you.
Yeah. Define hate it was that hate speech?
I don't know. I mean, I get a lot of people that think I'm a
crumb bomb for you know, you know, saying negative things
about the Macintosh and you go on a forum that'd be some guy
ranting and raving. That's hate speech.
We should sue him.
Well, if you can get the hate speech thing to work. Yeah, I
mean, it sounds reasonable.
It's so messed up if this if all this stuff passes.
And even for one thing is a definition issue. I mean, what
is hate
speech? How do you define hate then I guess you can define love
as one Star Trek movie sucked.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, you're going to jail.
I mean, you know, what is hate speech. I mean, it's saying
something sucks or you dislike something. I mean, I know what
it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be where somebody's
just had nothing but you know, vile invective. But even that is
totally
fine that it's protected. Of course, it's protected. You're
not You're not allowed to commit assault. And I don't know where
verbal assault falls into that category. Maybe. I don't know if
it even exists.
I don't know I'm baffled myself. So
For verbal abuse you can get jailed for if you verbally abuse
your spouse.
Yeah. So anyway, so with well, you might just hate. He's suing
the British or Jackie Smith, in particular for libel.
Okay, yeah, he does, particularly if you Souza in the
UK.
Yeah. And he's got lawyers in the UK right now. Excellent.
Excellent. So I think that would be
so you think the UK is nutty? In Gitmo nation West here. Now,
you've probably seen this if you watch Fox i That's I saw Fox
talking about it. And of course, we'll put this in the show notes
that no agenda mvno.com The domestic extremism lexicon?
Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, we have to post that. This is the thing
that everyday redacted that, by the way, but it got onto the
net.
So but this is the unredacted version, I think, right?
I don't know. I don't know for sure.
So it's from Department of handle Homeland Security. And
it's a definition list from something called the U F, O U
Oh, what's that stand for?
i There's a dere. It's mentioned in there somewhere. I think
maybe at the end of the document, they tell you what
that means.
I'm gonna look at the end of it. Oops, let me look at the end of
the document.
And this is a great document. People are gonna have to
download it, it'll be on the website. I don't it's in their
building because I saw it.
So anyway, it's it's essentially it's a tool. It's a reference
aid is what you know, it's from time to time to Department of
Homeland Security releases these. It's like, it's like part
of the syllabus, you know, like, like the educational system.
Okay, here's something. Here's the New Encyclopedia Britannica.
This is the new official use only. It's unclassified, though
official use only domestic extremism lexicon. And maybe I
should just read the bit of the intro so you so you get the gist
of it. Homeland Security reference aides prepared by the
Department of Homeland Security Office of intelligence and
analysis. I've never heard of that office, which is known as
ima provide baseline information on a variety of homeland
security issues. This product is one in a series of reference
aides designed to provide operational and intelligence
advice and assistance to other elements of the Department of
Homeland Security as well as state local and regional fusion
centers. My friend, John, what's a fusion center?
I have no idea.
DHS and IA intends this background information to assist
federal, state, local and tribal homeland security and law
enforcement officials in conducting analytic activities.
This is frightening. This product provides definitions for
key terms and phrases that often appear in DHS analysis that
addresses the nature and scope of the threat that domestic non
Islamic extremism poses to the United States.
It sounds like some from the 60s
definitions were derived from a variety of open source materials
and unclassified information, then further developed during
facilitated workshops with DHS intelligence analysis
knowledgeable about domestic non Islamic extremism in the United
States. Okay, I fit in every single one of these categories.
Yeah. Including the Black Panthers. Black. So the second
one right at the top is the alternative media, a term used
to describe various information sources that provide a forum for
interpretations of events and issues that differ radically
from those presented in mass media products and outlets.
Can you be an extremist threat to the United States, my friend,
extremists this
program is now officially in extreme a non Islamic extremist
threat to the United States.
We're mainstream.
Ooh, I like that. We can fight it on that, can't we?
We are mainstream. We got we got 400,000 uniques a month. There's
more than most newspapers get. We have a lot of normal normal
listeners. I mean, not everybody. We don't have a cult
we don't have much recept, our knighthoods and the squire ships
and some of this crazy British stuff that we're doing for our
producers. But essentially, we're mainstream. So let's get
over that part. So that doesn't count.
Okay. Denial of Service attack is is listed here. That's just a
reference. I thought it was interesting. I picked that up.
Green anarchism. hacktivism. I like this the use of cyber
division. He uses cyber technologies to achieve a
political end or technology enabled political or social
activism. Well, that's the Obama campaign right there. hacktivism
might include website defacements denial of service
attacks, hacking into the target's network to introduce
malicious software, malware or information. left. I thought
Jewish extremism was interesting.
But what's that a movement on that list?
No, no, I'm I don't know, I'm not on this list, a movement?
Where Wait, which
one of these things you think you are? Okay.
All right. Well, let me just let me just go up to the top for a
second. Hold on. So we already had above ground, a term used to
describe extremist groups or individuals who operate overtly
and portray themselves as law abiding. Yep, that would be
that's everybody. Yeah. Hey, you abide to the law, you damn
extremist law. bidi is the number one is the top is the top
list. Okay, so here's the list everybody, and then we're gonna
categorize everybody. So it's above ground alternative media.
Le anarchist extremism, I think I fit into part of that a
movement of groups or individuals who associate a
society devoid of government structure or ownership of
individual property. Now, I don't feel that way. But many
embrace some of the radical philosophy for philosophical
components of anti capitalist anti globalization, communist
socialist and other movements.
So if you're anti global, you're an extremist. Yes, yes. So if
you're pro American and anti global, you're an extremist.
Yeah. Well, you're a non Islamic extremist.
Yeah, let's I mean, but you're okay. I just wanted to get that
straight for people out there to know All right, so animal
rights, no anti abortion, no anti immigration, no anti
technology. No, Aryan prison gang. We're not anymore. The
Black Bloc no black nationalism, Black Power black separatism,
Christian identity, Cuban independence, extremism,
decentralized terrorist movement, denial of service
direct. What's direct action? Environmental No, oh, wait a
minute. Let me just say if it says you're against global
warming, maybe you never know. Now, ethnic based extremist
group green hacktivism. Now hate Jewish leaderless resistance.
Left wing lone terrorist, an individual motivated by
extremist ideology to commit acts of criminal violence
independent of any larger terrorist organization, Mexican
separatism, that's an interesting one.
Oh, really? Huh.
militia movement, Neo Nazis, patriot movement, oh, a term
used by right wing extremists to link their beliefs to those
commonly associated with the American Revolution. The patriot
movement primarily comprises violent anti government groups
such as militias and sovereign citizens. And then the the only
one that has artwork with it is the funniest priesthood. And
they have a Phineas Priesthood symbol. So they show up, which
is a p with a line through the middle. Yeah.
Like the code or something, maybe the guy who did the report
is in that group.
It's kind of Yeah, that's weird. It's kind of creepy. If
you think about it. It's
a Christian identity doctrine derived from the biblical story
of Phineas, which at which adherents interpret Jesus, which
adherents interpret as justifying interracial killing
followers of this belief system also have advocated martyrdom
and violence against homosexuals, mixed race couples
and abortion providers. But why that why the logo is here? I
don't understand that's a little odd. Yes. Right wing extremist
extremism. And we probably fit in that a movement of right wing
groups are individuals who can be broadly divided into those
who are primarily hate oriented. And those who are mainly anti
government and reject federal authority in favor of state or
local authority.
Wait a minute, that's almost 90% of the Republicans. Yeah. Oh,
owe people who reject federal authority and prefer state
authority are extremist radicals. So
anti Islamic extremist get it? Right, will you?
Geez, okay. That's our government at work. Trying to
criminalize everything,
tax resistance movement. So all you teabaggers groups or
individuals who vehemently believe I love these words,
vehemently, is it vehemently or vehemently? No, it's vehemently
vehemently, which is like vigorous, I guess, vehemently
believe taxes violate their constitutional rights among
their beliefs are that wages are not income, that paying income
taxes is voluntary, and that the 16th Amendment to the US
constitution which allowed Congress to levy taxes on income
was not properly ratified. This is the IRS got to write
something in here. Members have been known to advocate or engage
in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and terrorism
in an attempt to advance their extremist goals. They often
target government entities such as the Internal Revenue Service
and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
was sent when did explosives get added to the gonna ask you the
same question? That's amazing. Then the new jackets.
So this Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that's
the new moniker. Yeah. Because you studied that one by us.
Yeah, it
used to be the ATF.
Yeah. Now it's the ATF II
at feet. They knew they knew well, maybe they just wanted a
new wardrobe. That's some new jackets. Let's change our name.
Violent anti war extremism. Oh, you can't be anti war. Of
course, a movement of groups are individuals who advocate or
engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and
terrorism in an attempt to voice their opposition to US
involvement in war related activities. Jeez, Louise. Then
we get a whole bunch of white nationalism white power white
separatism white supremacists and that's it.
How come they don't have any Chinese Tong gangs in there?
Like there's a dummy there's Chinese gangs and what was the
mafia? Is it listed?
No, of course not. That's Joe Joe's buddies. Not gonna put
Joe's buddies on the list
well anyway it's just it's it's abhorrent this document
lovely word that and I think it describes it perfectly something
we could have come up with John if you go to financial crisis
cards.com Boy boy what a Mr. This was have you seen this?
Yeah. That would have been so turn on your speakers.
That would do as low as they go. I can barely hear you now.
One word headphones
yeah
yeah if you're an I actually have a deck of the the Iraqi
plane Yeah, I
have a deck I couldn't resist Did you get a lighter too? No, I
never got the lighter I
have a lighter where Saddam is on the lighter and when you
click the lighter that he lights up like like the devil Oh,
that's pretty neat. Now should they got out I have it somewhere
in my Yeah, post it. And I wanted to mention since we've
been forgetting to do this, let me pull this open. The no agenda
forums had no agenda forums.com Is that I'm trying to get
something going there. And I of course highly appreciate it. And
they have some kind of what do they have going they had a news
contest. Here we go. So I'll put a link in the show notes to
encourage posting into Gitmo nation news category like to
announce the first ever no agenda forms get mo nation news
contest so go check that out at no agenda forums.com
They're already haven't thanked Baba for a long time. Yeah, we
haven't Katie Martin who posts this on both the cage match dot
DeVore act.org And on the dvorak.org/blog
and I wouldn't mind if one of our producers out there from
time to time if you guys would try some artwork for us because
that kind of started to slip away as well. And you know we're
always looking for it we always forget the show title. We always
wind up calling each other back oh what we're going to call the
show and based upon that as well we kind of search for artwork
but it's it's more fun when when the audience comes up with the
artwork just like this come up with a couple of jingles John
nights and nights
we suck. We suck. Yeah. The Knights have no agenda will be
on that next list that government puts out. Oh yeah.
Just is they just who is it bae? It's cute. It is cute. That's
quite good. You should keep that one. That's a keeper.
I'd like the Knights have no agenda to um, keep well, we'll
play that again. When another night arrives. We've only got
three we need to we need 10 And we want to phase two. So I want
to remind people to go to direct.org/an A or no agenda
library.com and donate this week. Keep things going and
appreciate the $1,500 donations or take out a subscription for
24 or $2 a month that's dvorak.org/in a
or feel free to make some artwork make us some jingles
promote us. And I have to say we're trying to keep these shows
under 80 minutes and people like oh, you're stupid. No one burns
shows to CDs is not true. I beg to differ. Yeah, I
do it all the time. I
do it too. I love it. I have one of those transmitters. In fact,
I have the official Nokia charger a car charger slash
transmitter, which you which you plug in and then you can set the
frequency and then you have a little transmitter now these
transmitters. I know what Nokia's thinking. But could you
please put Like a like some serious wattage in that ship
because it never ever works. There's always crackling static,
you know, it just doesn't work.
I think it has to come through the antenna. So you have to you
have to get some gaffers tape and glue the phone to the roof
of your car so it can hit the antenna nearby. Another good
reason to have gaffers tape with you
or just hook us up with some link love. Yeah, link to us.
Yeah, we can use a few more listeners. Yeah, we can more
than merrier. And you know some people have already bailed out
this ad shows too long or they say we're begging for money too
much which is which is not true because we only beg for a few
minutes out of you know ad and
if people would rather hear your audible commercials I mean I'm
happy to go that route
you know yeah audible into to half a dozen other things go on
and on. I would really like to avoid that because I think
there's a flow to this show that it could be I mean, it could be
interrupted with a commercial now and again, but I don't like
the idea if we don't have to why would we end public support for
a show like this or like you know you see with PBS it's blood
its lifeblood you know it's a it's a positive thing and it
makes people more involved in a they listened with a with more
intensity because their producers
and look at the difference we're making Look at this 16 year old
producer from from the UK you know kids catching on he's not
taking the crap that's being shoveled into his down his
throat in school you know, and this and he Okay, he turned one
person on to us that's one more and it's not about not that we
have any kind of agenda this
guy does. You never know this guy could a one of our listeners
could end up on a jury while you are on trial.
Thank you very much.
And they might save your ass. Yeah, could be saved because you
know, you said something bad about Monsanto or you. You're
part of, you
know, a very anti globalist movement.
You're an anti globalist, and you're now you know, up for
being found out as a felon and they probably did make the anti
globalists sex offenders. Somehow. I mean, that's the
latest. Oh, yeah, that's
the trend. There was an excellent article in The New
York Times, John, that I just wanted to ask our listeners to
go take a look at because, you know, while our children are
being mis educated, we of course are our daily are indoctrinated
daily. John Broder wrote his article seeking to save the
planet with with a thesaurus. And I just read the first couple
of paragraphs the problem with global warming some
environmentalist believes is, quote, global warming. The term
turns people off. Now we've talked about this because
remember, it went from global warming to climate change.
Listen to what's next. The term turns people off fostering
images of shaggy haired liberals economic sacrifice and complex
scientific disputes. According to extensive polling and focus
group sessions conducted by eco America, a nonprofit
environmental marketing and messaging firm in Washington.
This this is how the ships being sold to you. Oh, yeah, instead
of grim warnings about global warming the firm advises to talk
about our deteriorating atmosphere, dropped discussions
of carbon dioxide and bring up moving away from the dirty fuels
of the past. Don't confuse people with Cap and Trade use
terms like cap and cashback or pollution reduction refund. I
got a hard on John, this is
good stuff. This is good stuff Pollution
Reduction refund this, this will happen at the supermarket, where
you're used to getting cash back, you will be capping
cashing back and on your receipt, you will be
congratulated for money you gave to the pollution reduction
refund. Something right? When you buy or when you buy your
Monsanto
products and your loan, you have to send me a link to this. This
is good stuff. Well, if you look at the show notes, but this is
what's going on and this kind of thing. And it's because you
know, you know people when you give your donation to
duart.org/and a you have to realize that both Adam and I are
actually involved in the media in such a way that we know how
Some of these mechanisms work because we work with public
relations companies all the time. And, and they and the kind
of skills they have and how they do, you know, grassroots things
that are
how they do it. And if you watch madmen, the fantastic series on
TMC, which is about the beginning and I was in
advertising for half of my life on Madison Avenue at the at the
highest levels, you will see how Madison Avenue sold, so they
sold cigarettes, which is neither here nor there, but
watch how they do it. It's the script actually lays it out how
these huge governmental policies were put in place by advertising
agency agencies.
Yeah. Well, that actually the the, the criminalization of
marijuana was a public relations oriented thing that is largely
done by the Hearst Corporation and others. In fact, next on our
next show, I do want to talk about the fact that
Schwarzenegger says that maybe the debate on legalizing
marijuana in California should be opened up and I have a bunch
of interesting information about that, that I think we'll discuss
on Sunday.
So Sunday, I will, I will be back at home base, which means I
don't know if I'll have enough time to get sound clips and do a
lot of show prep. But we'll we'll be kind of back to the
normal time. I think I arrived around two or so. So I should be
in time. I got to recuperate a little bit. So maybe we'll do a
little bit later on Sunday, John? Sure. But not too late.
And it'll just be good to be back at our normal times.
Yeah, and then we can stream. Yeah.
All right. So I'll I'm gonna go to the office and I'll stream
this from the office and then I'll do the upload.
And I have another interlude coming out this week. So people
who like to listen good,
yeah, I have paid zero attention to the stream. But I know people
still listening to it. So that is highly appreciated. Coming to
you from an undisclosed crackpot Command Center in San Francisco.
I'm Adam curry.
And from the budget kill bunker in northern Silicon Valley. I'm
John C. Dvorak.
We will talk to you again on Sunday right here on no agenda.