Adam curry, John C. Dvorak coming to you from both sides of
Gitmo nation. This is no agenda for Sunday, February 22 2009.
This is no agenda from Gitmo nation east in southwest London
safe and secure in the crackpot command center. I'm Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak.
Oh, give me a little more than that.
Well, that's it.
But aren't you don't you have a location?
I am in northern Silicon Valley in the Git foundation
you're supposed to fill it up, man.
Give me a rehearsal on this crazy. Still sounds like I don't
know. What is this? Is this the cue? I don't know. Let me just
trust that man.
After I say I'm Adam curry thing you're supposed to save from
Northern. Yeah, no, I
got that part. I may hit it, but I didn't hit you know, whatever.
Okay, well, I get it right. Let's go and do it again.
No, no, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Well, we'll do better
next week. It'll be a surprise and love to change it a little
bit every single time. So you are in the absolute northwestern
corner of Gitmo nation today. Yeah, this
is northern northern get more nation Silicon Valley. This is
actually Silicon Valley, northeast Microsoft country.
Oh, that's true. It is Microsoft country. Yeah. Up in the divorce
compound.
Exactly. Well, John, what's been happening with you? Right, we're
just up you're freezing to death. And yeah, much going on.
We had beautiful, absolutely stunning weather yesterday, here
and on the continent, and my aircraft is due for its annual
in March. So I decided to fly it over to Antwerp. And it was
great. I'm flown in four months. So it was really it was fun.
Moved to Antwerp. Oh, Antwerp is where my my flight instructor
and mechanic has his hangar.
Did you leave the plane behind? Yeah, well, so
what you do is I fly over, and then pick up either my
instructor slash mechanic and he'll fly back or some if he's
busy, then they'll have some other pilot and then they'll fly
back with me. And then I'll be back in the UK. Then he takes
the plane back. You did that? Yeah. Yeah. So I flew back and
forth. It was beautiful. 5500 feet all the way. It was just
fantastic. It was really, really nice. No, I don't pre announce
any more when I'm going flying for some obvious reasons.
You're paranoid freak. So
I love you too, honey.
But the you thought the file flight plans it wouldn't take
that much to figure out what's going on? Somebody wanted to?
Well, yeah, if you want zapped me out of the sky, but you know,
it gives a little less preparation time for some actual
sabotage.
So if you're, if you're flying at 5500 feet, which is a really
low, you know, relatively low altitude or your is your plane
have it has plastic windows, I'm sure but are they clear enough
to take photos out of Is it a good plane to take pictures from
it's actually an excellent plane to take pictures out of because
it's a high wing? So all all the windows all round you have
complete clear view down to the ground. It's a fantastic plane
for that. Yeah.
Is it but is it cloudy? Or you know, kind of scratched window?
Pretty scratched and it is that was like
I know in fact, it's not No it's a nice aircraft John and it has
great windows and it's we can even if you want I can even take
a door off you can just sit there and take pictures and we
can fly around. Because again, it's a high wing and you can
tilt it to kind of a continuous tilt angle. It's perfect for
that stuff. Okay, but if you really want to take good
pictures a guy I know at the airport has I think a Seneca
twin Seneca with a hole in the back and a whole mount system so
you can just literally you know, either kneel or sit or crouch or
lay down if you want and stick your lens out through the hole
on the bottom. Which is the best way that they do it
professionally. Aerial Photography. That's yeah, yeah.
No, I'd
love to do that. Yeah, there's
another guy there who does imaging they do high I mean
super high resolution imaging of high voltage wires. But I'm but
I'm talking it's super resolution. Yeah. And they get
every single point of this all these data points essentially
you see a wireframe of what's on the ground of these high tension
wires, but it's it's all geo mapping. It's pretty cool stuff.
Got good toys out there. Good toys.
Yeah, like you do that because it's Have you taken a lot of
I've taken a lot of aerial shots now and again, but not really
set up, you know, not in a plane that's actually set up for it.
Well, oh, man, that headset it's I'm trying to adjust it. I mean
it would it would it? Would it be hard to get a duplicate setup
in Seattle and you're gonna wind up living there eventually full
time anyway, you might as well don't set up the studio
properly.
Yeah, no, I'm going to do that. Okay, good. The problem is today
with one of the problems today is that the this machine had a
couple of those Seagate drives. Yeah, blew up. And so the
machine had to be rebuilt and one of the soundboard is shot
for some reason, and needs new drivers or some so instead of
the machines not ready ready for to be thrown up. So I can
well, you sound significantly shittier than normal. Yeah,
well, I'm normally I'm running through a $400 mic and a
compressor and a real gear. This is going through a $25 thing.
Noticeably, so yeah. So a couple of big stories that we didn't
talk about on Thursday, which, you know, because we did focus a
lot on US politics and Obama. And I think we feel we've
neglected some other parts of the world, although this does
tie into the states as well. A big story that is there's now
action being undertaken online, which I consider to be
completely senseless. This blackout for New Zealand if
you've been following that.
Yeah, apparently the New Zealanders have they're gonna
put some law in place that's censorship thing of some sort.
And so to to protest this, the meaningless use of black icons
on Twitter, among others. Apparently, you're supposed to
do it everywhere is been encouraged. This reminds me if
you remember some years ago when the use of the black websites
Yeah, oh, this this has happened many times in the past 2025
years. It accomplishes nothing. Yeah, it makes it hard to read.
To write with the blank websites, but these little black
icons i i somebody said you're gonna put a black icon up and
answer by No, I'll write a column. Do you think that's
maybe a better idea? Exactly.
Oh, thank you. Thank you. This is this is a part of this new
activism. You know, it's like we feel so satisfied. If we've done
something hey, man, at least I did some. No, I made my icon
black. That'll really change the world.
It's the it's the online equivalent of an armband. Yeah.
Yeah, that's a that's your right. A black armband. We used
to have those a lot to back in the 70s. That was a kind of a
regular occurrence.
Right? That morphed into yellow ribbons. And around the old
starting with the old oak tree, so you have these ribbons around
trees. And then they little, the little dinky the mini ribbons
showed up on the as a as a pin, a lapel pin, right? Yeah. And
then that morphed and then of course, we got the AIDS ribbon.
Yep, yeah, that worked into the AIDS ribbon. And then that
morphed into the cheap rubber band bracelet the bracelets
right which of course contain high RFID tracking units.
Were were they that expensive? And and then the that started
with the yellow one, of course, yellow was operative, and maybe
we should have yellow icons instead of black. That would
have made more sense in the in the fractal.
But let's let's just let's just take a tally here. Have we
stopped aids? Have we stopped war? Have we stopped
homelessness?
That's another good one. No, of course not. I agree. John,
please write a great column.
Yeah, writing and bitching in MIG public scene is more
interesting than passive activity like black icons. I
mean, it's nice. I guess it's you know, shows solidarity. So
what? Anyway, what's in the news?
What's in the news? Oh, man, there's so much in the news.
Well, actually, the I was just going to tack on to that and say
that it's kind of amazing because with every day, I see
how the internet is actually functioning in fantastic ways.
And how the the established elite totally underestimate the
power of the internet and you couldn't see this happening now
with Obama. You know, it's it's just, he's even a part of it
with this whole calling out thing of mayors and governors
I'm gonna call you out is the internet is basically one big
calling out machine. So when you use the internet, and you
promise a whole bunch of things, but ticularly when you promise
internet related stuff, like, I'll be twittering, which of
course stopped. I think the last time he tweeted, Obama twittered
was that after he got elected,
is that right? He'd been even as people aren't twittering for him
because he was never really twittering.
What is He? Is he the real Obama? It's just Barack Obama,
isn't it? I think so. Yeah, I follow it. And I haven't seen
anything. So let me just see what, what pops up here in my
Tweet Deck. Here at Barack Obama. Let's see what the last
post was. No, no, the last post was January 19. There you go.
I'm looking at it now asking you to
honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
So that's a while ago.
Now if you do Joe Biden, it's even funnier. Joe Biden
literally hasn't twittered in a year or his people.
Joe Biden doesn't even know what Twitter is?
Well, I'll tell you, you know, I actually pulled the soundbite
Robert Gibbs, who is the press secretary, started off. And I
watch these religiously, because it's just great entertainment.
People, please go to C span. C span.org. It's the entertainment
is there ready for you? And listen to how we started off the
the Friday morning press briefing is what it's called
press briefing.
It has been amusing this week to read the many press releases and
Twitter comments on those that found the stimulus on C span
during the vote. Interesting, huh?
So they're, they're listening.
Yeah, they're monitoring Twitter, obviously, for some
reason. Well,
this, hopefully for the same reason I'm monitoring Twitter,
as it says, This is how he find out what people are interested
in. Well, at least
a sub segment. I mean, let's be real here. I mean, the average
Twitter user is not the average American. Yeah. And we're
actually here in Port Angeles, we have this is where the
average American is, it's one of the great tests or one of the
good reasons to be here. It's one of the great test markets
of, of the United States. And in fact, the Pacific Northwest is
generally this is a test market. Seattle, is notoriously used by
Hollywood as a test market for films. The films are successful
in Seattle, they should be in testing, they should be
successful throughout the country. But this area here,
although I've run into errors that are also the same within
the Midwest, I've seen these towns, you can spot them a mile
away, because they test weird stuff, you'll find like here,
they had a McDonald's that had for a while they had a self
service counter for adding stuff to the hamburger. So you could
buy like a 99 cent cheeseburger, and you could load it up with
tomatoes and lettuce, and you could make it into whatever you
want it. And that kind of in the course they dead got swapped out
for something another test. And so it's an interesting place.
And I can, I can assure you that the number of Twitter users up
here is about eight.
But they all follow you.
I'm sure they do. Because I mean, a couple of I know they
do, because they're always talking about I went to the deli
today they keep keep tabs on,
you know, you bring up an interesting point. And this was
accentuated even more we've been emailing back and forth over the
past couple of days about the New York Post cartoon racism,
controversy. And I, and I think I even said, Oh, wow, man, I
don't know if we want to talk about this. Because it's such a
it's such a loaded topic, but it all of a sudden, it dawned on me
that, and it's really sad to have to realize this, that the
people do not understand who makes up the law, and who makes
things happen. Because when you look at a cartoon, and you
associate the chimpanzee being shot with Obama and consider
that racist, that means that deep inside of you, you really
believe that Obama made wrote the stimulus package, which of
course he did not this is what your your government does what
Congress in the Senate does. And they are of course, the chimps
who should have been shot dead. And then just to see the
protest, and people in their own mind justly outraged because
they really make that association proves that people
have it because when I saw it, I'm like, pants kind of funny.
Yeah, of course. Yeah. And I'm the way when I see the dead
chimpanzee, I'm thinking yeah, like some shitty ass lawyer
who's been writing this thing for three months while they were
preparing for it, you know, and all these other dipshits copying
stuff and I just Have a whole different vision, I don't see
Obama writing the stimulus package at all.
I mean, there's a couple of interesting things about this
monkey cartoon one. Of course it had, it was a call back to the
killing of a chimp, by the police. That was apparently the
chimp was attacking somebody. It was a Pet Pet champ. And so they
shot it dead. And so that was the call back, although the make
the call back work as a cartoon. I think I looked at this cartoon
a couple of times. And I was thinking, you know, if they
didn't want to do anything about it, it was just a standalone
without the callback to the dead Chimp, they would have just had
a Bozo the Clown with two bullets in him. She'd been the
same same gay basically right to make. But to make this gag work
better or to have made it work better, the chimp should have
had a diaper on him. Because the chimp that was shot dead had a
diaper. So the cartoon has made a blunder there. That should
kind of ruin the callback. Now. The other thing is, in fact,
Eric pointed this out, he says we he says this is ridiculous.
Distraction. There's all this, you know, controversy going on
about the stimulus package and some other stuff. And now it's
about the cartoon is like the Danish Muslim cartoons. Yes.
Everybody's all up in arms about and, and now. It's just another,
you know, example of somebody coming along. Obviously, he's
been listening to our show long enough to start coming up with
this kind of thing.
He's come over to the dark side, which is that
this is just a it was maybe it was even put in there on
purpose.
Well, thank you. You know, who owns the New York Post? Right?
Yeah,
Murdoch. Yeah. And so I mean, put on purpose. And that
definitely takes heat off of the the real political discussion
about the stimulus package, or the bailout of the bankers and
all these other things that we should be talking about, rather
than talking about an idiotic cartoon. And so Gregory,
Mohammed, one of our listeners, who is always providing me with
some cool stuff, he sends me the update from John Legend page,
which is an open letter to the New York Post let John Legend Of
course, being a another musician, you know, has to get
involved, you know, wish musicians would just,
you know, there is this the John, which John Legend is this,
who is the
guy plays the piano, and he's really, you know, he became a,
he's like a lounge act as extremely popular. And Amy and I
say, you know, about a year or two ago, and he's like, huge.
Anyway, it goes on and on with his long, I'm not gonna read the
whole thing. It goes on forever. He just goes, but it's just
like, scathing, you should print an apology in your prep and
dodged the cartoon was ignorant, offensive and racist that should
not have been printed. I'm aware. It could be just your
racism and violence, violence, violence. I truly believe we're
better than this filth, as we attempt to rise above our
difficult paths and look toward a better future. We don't need
the New York Post or resurrect the images of Jim Crow. Yeah,
but
this is, this is offensive, because it hadn't. If anything,
the New York Post should apologize for just not being all
that great. You know, it was a stretch. It wasn't well
executed. But I don't believe it was. It was meant as a racist
cartoon.
Well, probably wasn't. I mean, why would it be? I mean, you
wouldn't do run a cartoon.
Crazy, of course, right? Stupid. But you
know, you're gonna start to see this kind of response to just
about anything, especially as you know, what's going to happen
because I don't think Obama is going to you know, and he's so
far he's put lobbyists MEC, all these rules, things that he was
going to do to for change, and hope he hasn't done any of it.
You know, because he's so preoccupied with this bill. He's
got to load up his cabinet and there's nobody to pick from he
won't bring the professor's in like we were expecting. He
weren't weren't bringing in the non Washington insiders. He
wasn't he didn't have I don't know why. I mean, it's but you
know, you got Rama Manuel who's like a politician, so they're
only going to put their own buddies in. And so we haven't
seen anything and he's got lobbyists and he's hasn't done
this, he hasn't let these bills sit. So the public can, you
know, comment on them. So as this goes on, because there's a
couple of websites that are keeping track of all this, you
know, 450 promises that as this goes on, and people start to
get, you know, the start to turn and a lot of people who are big
Obama supporters have already you know, these, especially
these carping liberals who don't like anything anyway, once they
start to turn on him and be critical, it's going to be
really interesting to see the reaction to it because it's
going to be like, you know, anything, everything's going to
be seen as offensive and racist. And that's the only reason is
because you're a racist.
It's gonna be exactly exactly the same as Windows Mac fanboys
that's what it's gonna be. Yeah, it'd be bad. That would be very
bad, but but that seems to be the human psyche. And again, it
just it just flabbergasted me that people if you if you see
this cartoon is racist, then you don't understand how it works.
You don't understand what the President does and what Congress
does and what the Senate does. Are people not being educated?
Well, hello, there's that for sure. And everybody, you know,
still thinks the President does everything. And I mean, you
know, the economy caved. I mean, the Congress has the purse, the
holder of the purse strings are the ones who do the IGA.
That's supposed to be but of course, they're not entirely
anymore because they don't really control the
money. While you're taking one step further and saying that the
Fed Yeah, really, but the Fed is, you know, pretty much, you
know, if they tell you to print we have to Congress tells the
Fed to print more money, they're not going to say no,
no, no, the when the Fed wants to print more money, they don't
ask Congress anymore. That's the problem. Well,
maybe we'll get I'm sure somebody will come in and tell
us that that's not necessarily true. I think they have the you
have to have some sort of permission. I'm not sure
what since this is going to happen. Anyway. John, let's just
run down a few more things that are not change a couple things
from this week. Number one, right. Obama administration's
from AP is trying to kill the email case, this was the case
that is ongoing from the previous administration, trying
to recover the millions of missing White House emails,
apparently, the Obama administration is doing its best
to block this investigation. And there's an AP story which I
presumed to be true. So I'd say that's a that kind of goes
against the transparency thing.
Ya know, the transparency thing, I haven't seen any evidence of
that?
Well, I've been looking@recovery.org. Waiting.
You know, I still have yet to go to that site,
or you shouldn't I'm sorry.gov not.org. Yeah, I mean,
yeah. So here's the thing they have, you should go to it. Now,
Matt. So they have a timeline. And this is what I like about
it, it tells you on February 19 2009, federal agencies to
begin reporting their formula block grant award, so Okay, so
and they have to report and there's this whole big, you
know, PDF file, you can read about the directives handed out
by or zag Of course, the guy we talked about on the last show,
but they don't actually report until May 8, the third federal
agencies to make performance plans publicly available and
federal agencies to begin reporting on their allocations
for entitlement programs. So we're going to go through almost
three months of work that will not be posted. Yeah, well,
that's lane. If the federal agencies are reporting as of
three days ago, how come we don't see that
you're asking the wrong guy, by the way, the wrong guy? Yeah.
The recovery.org I'm looking at it and it's really.gov.gov I
mean, I got it yeah.gov And it's got you know, they gotta get
another movie of Obama. But this still free still.
I saw it's funny, isn't it? Yeah, it's not a very flattering
Bill and I guess they probably couldn't figure out how to like
change the frame. So you know the least maybe you should be
smiling or something it just looks it looks like a big
brother and it's just gonna be a good actually I'm gonna capture
this and then Photoshop it because this is a great picture
to use if you want to have you know for big brothers watching
you. So by the way, I want to mention something because you
mentioned or zag before we go off because I know I have
something bad or as I go ahead. Okay, so I you told me about
orange egg and check out his bio. So I went and found his bio
I guess it's like his you know, what he got how he got the job.
So I'm dying because it's got it's like his, you know, it's
got his basic bone to feed he's but it has essentially a
documentation of every little article and scrap of paper he's
ever written. Like, you know, the thoughts on this is you
know, what is it the attribution scrap of paper you know, found
in garbage it this is this
guy's Nancy Drew novel series.
Jelly is like a diary. It's just like, if I had, you know, if I
put my bio together, and I, and I wrote down every thing that I
had ever published, which is essentially what he's done over
like, a long period of time, including just short letters to
the editor. I mean, it would be it would be a book so I guess
what he does, so I guess what he did was, which is an interesting
idea for anybody that wants to get a job in this particular
administration. You know, over document everything you've ever
done. So it's this huge tome of you know, what you what you did
in high school, you know, the fact that you are the you know,
the the cheerleader, you know, the boosters, you know, you were
in the PTA, you know, every little thing, and then you drop
this on on them as a big funk. They probably Oh,
that's impressive. Oh, yes, we need to hire him. You're in?
Yeah, just, I was just always just, it was just it's an eye
roller.
Well, so I'm reading through some of these documents because
or zag is also responsible for the entire not just the $75
billion housing re thingamajig, but also for the almost $800
billion stimulus package. So I'm reading through some of the
documents
before you do that, what remind people who or zag is in the
past, because I think new a new listener may not know what we're
talking about. Okay. Well,
the only thing I remember, of course, was the funny bit that
he
right, that's all we need to know, we need to know is orange.
Orange, is the head of the budget. Yeah.
And he's the guy that doles out the money, essentially, he has
oversight over all this money. And his one of his previous
gigs, was as a consultant to the Central Bank of Iceland, which
is the whole country is now bankrupt. So you know, of all
the things to put on that enormously long CV, which I
think I have it in the show notes for this week. Maybe it
was there last week, but I'm trying to put as much in as
possible now all these links. So I'm searching around and I see
his directive, which is very detailed on this. There's
basically the transparency directive on the reporting. And
it's very detailed, John, it goes into the spreadsheet, how
many characters can be in each cell what each cell is supposed
to contain? I mean, it's a real government document, and you
feel good about that. And along with these documents, I find
there was a question from Charles Grassley, who is he's a
Senator for pup, I don't remember right now. So he's
asking some tough questions in this document about accounting,
and it's being answered by or zag and copied on. On this note
on this. On this correspondence, is Counsel to the President
Gregory B. Craig. Have you heard of this gentleman?
No. Well, let me tell you, he's so he's the Obamas. Lawyer. Yes,
he is Obama's lawyer. I'm reading from Wikipedia, which of
course, is highly unreliable, but usually a good starting
point. past clients. Craig has represented numerous high
profile clients in 1981. He represented John Hinckley Jr,
who tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan. He represented Senator
Ted Kennedy during the 1991 Rape trial of William Kennedy Smith.
He represented the Cuban father of alien Gonzalez during the
2000 child custody dispute with the US Marshals remember that
one. Craig represented United Nations Secretary General Kofi
anon during the Volker Commission's investigation into
the scandals involving the oil for food program.
This is unbelievable sky he
represents
who's wrong side.
But of course, he was personal. He also represented Bill Clinton
during the Monica Lewinsky trials. It's just unbelievable.
And this is the this is the president's lawyer Counsel to
the President.
Why would he pick this? Well, obviously well, well, hello.
Ted Kennedy, not in jail. Kofi Annan still at the UN, I mean,
sounds that was Kofi Annan, who didn't his son steal millions of
dollars.
It was a complete pleat fiasco. It was just corrupt. David, just
the worst thing ever.
Craig earlier represented the Panamanian government, during
the trial of Manuel Noriega just goes on and on and on. Wow, it
just goes on. So I'm just like, wow, that's unreal.
You think just for image sake alone? You wouldn't have that
guy? Well, it was it's. Yeah, well, not. Yeah. Well, I guess
except for you know, 1000s of Let me see. Let
me see if it even says it in his wiki entry. Washington based
lawyer. Yeah. Current White House Counsel. The President
Barack Obama says right at the top. And John Hinckley, Jr, of
course, was acquitted of the assassination on Ronald Reagan.
Yeah, but
he wasn't he locked up.
He's also been a foreign policy adviser to Edward Kennedy and
Madeleine Albright. When she was Secretary of State. It's just
Yeah, it's a good laundry list. Well, Obama's not gonna get
himself in any legal trouble.
No, not with those guys on his team. Something I did realize
which I just caught a actually a Twitter about someone was
bitching. Now that I'm using TweetDeck I'll just put in
Gordon Brown Obama and it's great because you really see
what what a small segment of the universe admittedly. But now
we've got celebrities coming onto this thing. You got to
figure that you know, lots of people are gonna come in and
it's kind of like blogging. I can see it As blogging on your
cell phone, I mean, that's not the way I use it, but I can see
why people would would gravitate toward that. And so you get a
lot of interesting comments. So you know, not just from your
Twitter sphere and good post in boston.com Now there's a lot of
criticism that in the $787 billion stimulus bill there's
not a single dollar for Katrina victims, not a single dollar
which would would seem like an obvious place to put some money
into
Yeah, it is interesting. And doing a lot of work on this show
by the way.
Well, yeah, I am Thank you. Yes,
I was impatient back off a little if you know what I'm
saying.
What are you talking about the Vortech
just saying you know, it's good for you.
Well, you remember we talked about
I think we yeah, here's I think it's part of our formula you say
really doesn't have an agenda except for bringing out we do
put we I guess we do have an agenda to to expose you know,
corruption or not or corruption or just bad government
essentially
it's to lift the veil of the matrix John
so that I think one of their formula or what's evolving in
the in the evolving formula? Is this highlighting one new guy
or one guy per show? One guy that go look at
Yeah, one guy you will look at because I'm sure this is Look
they have enough people in that office now I'm sure that we
could do one guy you know twice a week and do different guy and
then we always do callbacks to the various guys because it's I
think it's going to be a goldmine. This is like gold
gold.
It's total gold everybody.
Okay, well, we need a lawyer hit on that we need a will Okay,
well, so
the new guy we need a gold jingle. Gold hit Yeah. Well,
it's got to have a names gotta it's gotta be like an item name.
You know, it's gonna be like, yeah, yeah, bad guy of the day.
Something like that. Yeah, something like that. But you
know, it says such thing as a same thing or okay.
It's an acapella sting. Bad guy of the day, okay. So, on
Thursday, when we were actually doing the show, is when I think
currently is still the number one video on YouTube. When on
CNBC Rick Santelli, just started yelling and screaming, which was
fantastic. Of course to see it was it was bad. I mean, look,
I'm a guy who loves making television. And boy, that was
some good as television and this Santella he's running with it.
He is so smart. He's like, on every talk show. And he's like,
Oh, I apologize. It seems like losers, but I'm really angry.
And you know, very much a mad as hell. I'm not gonna take any
longer type of vibe.
Yeah. Did you read my market watch column on this? No, I'm
sorry, what? I didn't want to say
I attacked the whole Well, it wasn't about this, but it was it
but it was in there. I attacked the centrality for this
particular outburst. And my rationale is pretty
straightforward. Go forward. We have over the last 12 or 15
years, both through the end of the Reagan administration.
Definitely throughout Clinton's administration, Clinton pulled
the plug on, you know, all these laws that were put in place
after the depression, which have resulted in essentially, you
know, banks being able to do what they did. And then of
course, go broke. Most of these things on a list I'll put up but
the consumer protection laws have all been gutted. We can you
know, they have you surrender usury, it ridiculous interest
rates you have these places that you know take your paycheck
payday or pay cash, you know, whatever paying it gets to get
your money in advance places,
your your taxes, your refund tax and your tax refund. We know
that no,
there's these places all over the country where you can take
your pay stub in because you say your paychecks coming in two
days, but you want some money now, you can go in they'll give
you the money in advance and then stand back but if you don't
pay it back, you have to pay 10% 20% interest it's all it's
essentially a
loan shark loan shark but it's
legal because they changed all the laws and there's no consumer
protection anymore and it's and the fact of the matter is that
the consumer protection is the Public Utilities Commission's
don't exist anymore. So the phone company that we're all
busted out while we don't need them anymore, and then they all
reform like that led liquid guy on the Terminator two or
Terminator three, they just formed back as AT and T again
what happened there How did that happen? So now you can get a
phone bill with a bunch of weird charges and uh, you can't do
anything about it. Because there's nobody that you can
pitch to. You can't say that the PUC that you're getting ripped
off and you can't say the phone company that I'm not paying it
because then they'll cut you off. You have no place to go?
Well, don't worry about it. Because the free market is what
the absolute is say the free market will take care of it. The
free market doesn't take care of stuff for him. individuals you
know if you're like one person fighting AT and T the free
market doesn't do you any good you do need these protective
bodies, and you need consumer protection laws which are all
gone. So the consumer protection laws are gone. And these poor
saps these people who got into over their head on these
mortgages, these huge people who were sold the bill of goods by
salesmen, that there was no protection for them may have
expected there'd be some protection but No, they weren't
walked down the primrose path. They're not like Santos
Sanatory, right. Santilli, Santilli. They're not like
Santella. They're not like those guys on the trading floor.
cheering, good. They're not professional investors of the
public. There's some people out there, they don't know anything
like that they're going to get ripped off, or they're going to
be put in a bind, or they're going to get screwed over by the
system. So why are you jumping on them? Why is it their fault?
All of a sudden, why should they be condemned and essentially
called idiots? When the entire system doesn't support the
public anymore? This is just an attack on the middle class. I
think that that scene on CNBC was abhorrent. I think it was
disgusting. I think he should have apologized profusely and
the fact that he's taken advantage of the situation he's
going to have a meeting with Obama is is unbelievable to me.
It's sick.
Let's let's have a quick listen to Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.
The same briefing on Friday, where he addressed his sentence
and tele specifically which I found highly unusual the house
it won't bail out. Find it and it is not going to help us
persons home from being foreclosed i the money that's
invested in trapped with a mortgage payment or one that's
been foreclosed shit reading,
Leah cussing Aladdin over the stove. Yeah, she has stopped
because I had a queued up
to feed the President's plan. Yeah. And understand that it
will head back up a little bit. Here we go. I would encourage
him to read the President's plan. And understand that it
will help millions of people, many of whom he knows. I'd be
more than happy to have him come here and read it. I'd be happy
to buy him a cup of coffee. decaf.
I want to sort of follow up on the What's even crazier. John is
now now that he's responding to that.
This is another distraction.
It's a total distraction. Let me thought I had it to your dog
while he was on Kudlow show. And he's like, Yeah, of course. I'm
gonna go to the White House. And I, there's a lot to your rant
there. John. I must confess, there's a lot to your rant. If
anything, it's well, even the fact that the press secretary is
responding to it, you know, and saying, oh, you should go to his
computer. Look at it printed out. That almost reeks of a
setup, doesn't it? Oh, absolutely. Distractions. Of
course, Ge Ge is a subsidiary or CNBC is a subsidiary of NBC,
which is owned by General Electric and the CEO of General
Electric is on the President's Economic Advisory Board. So
that's that's three hops. You know, that's, that's, that's
better than the Kevin Bacon game. Right? Hey, maybe we
should change it to the Obama game. If you can be connected to
I like it within six, six separations from Obama and not
bad. I'm gonna do that. Cuz I bet you I bet you any buddies.
That's how you show business for Ugly people. And now they're
getting beautiful. Damn.
Anyway, well, that's a good rant, but my column and my
column and Market Watch discusses this. It's running
right now.
So the distraction of course, what is distracting from is a
number of things including well, right after the stimulus
package. 17,000 more troops going to Afghanistan. Pakistan
is out of control. Dude.
This is all Yeah, Pakistan. So is it a nightmare? I mean, it's
it is was a foregone conclusion years ago. I mean, we should I
mean, I actually I think everybody knew this was coming.
Because who's running the place now that Musharraf is out? Is
anyone running the place? Just the Taliban.
Know the tally bonds only got that one area?
No, I thought they were now in the north like they have this
whole onslaught.
Right? Yeah. They gave him it. They gave him the area. Pakistan
gave it to him. Yeah. Basically gave Well, you know, the Taliban
came from Pakistan to begin with the Pakistanis. You know, they
switched there was a really good I got a I have this really good
article about the history of this era. The Pakistanis went
into the Wahhabi camp of of extreme fundamentalist Muslim is
Muslim ism or, sorry, Islam Islam Islam. Yeah. or is Islam
and the I think I don't have the exact date, but I think it was
in the 70s or some or later. And not sure. But anyway, they
there's a real good paper that documents that this history, and
it's really part of the real world wide wide problem. And
nobody has done anything to reverse the, this essentially
change in, in philosophy of the, the the poorest of the Muslim
Muslims in Pakistan. But obviously I'm wondering Yeah,
yeah, floundering. But if I had this, just because one of those
things, you know, there's something sometimes you run into
you find a document that says, like, outlines a history of some
sort, and it's so dense, and obviously hits everything hits
all the right buttons. And it's, you can't express it,
unfortunately, you had the best you can do just pass on the
document somebody else. And I have to go back and get that
document. I think I'd sent it to you. As a matter of fact, you
might have I have here from The Times on Saturday, President
Obama's administration is brought in the number of radical
groups targeted by the CIA inside Pakistan. So I guess
we're in now. And we're doing covert operations. Yeah, I
guess. And also, there was an admission Oh, I should find that
an admission by the Israeli government that they've been in
Iran targeting nuclear scientists and Nuclear
Laboratories
and blowing up Machad the Mossad.
Yeah. Yeah. But it was like an eight Yeah. Yeah, I was I was
amazed I mean, so that's what's going on. I mean, you really
think that's happening?
I think it's just it's just disinformation personally.
Really, I mean, all you have to do is go in there and do you
know shake do something weird just and then put the word out
that this is going on figuring out because they don't you know
the problem with Iran I think everybody over there knows that
especially the scientists is that they don't you know that
the the media is is is is not I guess you can call it corrupt
because the government won't let you print anything that's not
approved and so you can't trust the media to give you accurate
information so you can steal rumors this by the way is going
to happen in this country. So you can go happen gonna happen
well, I mean, to more of an extreme and so you can I think
you can actually move opinion with rumors and innuendo a lot
easier in an environment where the media is basically no good.
And it is happening here to some extent. And but there must be
just a piece of cake because no one's gonna believe anything
they're reading the newspaper so if somebody says the word starts
passing around that the Israeli Mossad is killing scientist in
Iran, you know, murdering them and then you know, but there's
since there's no real good communications there you can't
you know, really Yeah, can't double check it so you can get
real freaked out so I think it's pretty you know, pretty
interesting that they tried to pull that I don't I just don't
see it happening. I mean, maybe I don't know I mean, it would be
something that is not unknown to the Israeli intelligence that do
this stuff they shot that remember that guy they killed a
built that big cannon
oh yeah the 100 foot long cannon you mean that one?
That guy with me he was the most famous cannon designer in the
world he was very you know used by as a consultant he was going
to apparently build this you know 100 foot lower longer mile
long cannon huge cannon that there was going to put in Iraq
and they were going to build a shell Tel Aviv because as you
can shoot a shell of it, this guy was it was like, apparently
just very, I can't remember his name bowl, I think was his name
or something like that. He was just, like, minutes away from
being able to eat and he believed you could do it.
Designing a cannon that could put a satellite in or
Yeah, sounds feasible, I guess, if you
can, it was long enough. Yeah. And, and he, he's most modern
Canons today are of his design. For a lot of different reasons.
I mean, he's was a genius. Mariana cannon nut. So this
Mossad, and I don't think anyone that no one's ever denied it was
Israeli intelligence. They got sick of this guy, you know,
building this thing. They've tried to stop him. I guess he
told him to shove it. And so they just shot him in the hall.
And so in his hotel somewhere, goodbye. That was the end. Bye,
bye.
You're not a problem anymore.
You know, so. So it's not beyond the possibility? Well, yeah, I
think if the guy who backed off he wouldn't have been killed. So
I
possibly, but I agree with you. I'll just take it a step
further. I think our media is already completely infiltrated.
And it's, again, it's not like, people are being forced to write
something, but it's a culture. It's a culture of these
companies and stuff gets passed down and they on the 40th floor
said they want this to happen. It just kind of happens. And
disinformation gets out all over the place.
My Well, there's two. Well, let me just add to that, there's a
couple other things that probably should be mentioned, if
we're going to talk about this kind of thing. Generally
speaking, if you're working for a media company, like General
Electric, or I'm sorry, NBC, or any of these other or Disney,
I'm sorry, ABC, or any of these other large corporations that
happen to have, you know, ownership of, of the outlets.
You probably, you know, don't do one of two things. One, if
you're working for ABC, you're not going to do a an expose a on
the dangers of one of the rides at Disney World, Orlando,
probably not probably ain't gonna happen. No, and you're
probably not going to go after General Electric. If you know
that there's a strike that exists. That's dangerous.
Because if you go after General Electric in a, in a in an attack
piece, saying well, they're jet engines are near probably going
to lose your job. You're gonna but I'm saying at ABC, you're
not gonna go after the NBC story or the or the General Electric
story, because you know, that they're gonna go after that bad
ride is because the media, I mean, I mean, writers very
rarely attack each other in that, and I've done it, and I
always know and people that attacked me, you always know the
same thing, which is you're gonna get attacked back. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, and it's and it's a balancing thing. So
somebody says, you know, something, you know, and then
you do your weight and use lie and wait, usually don't do it
right away. And then you just do it. And then you as a writer,
you're always waiting for that this happened to me, because I
had, they tried to do a hit piece on me and wired some years
ago.
And I thought, wait a minute, I hit piece on John C. Dvorak.
And when I actually was pulling a bore Sook wrote it and she and
I had, you know, they had what they had to profile me, they're
going to be profile. So I, I always was waiting for a hit
piece because I had written this extremely scathing article about
how I thought Nicholas Negroponte was a big phony. And
it was an obscure publication, but I figured one of these days,
you know, something was going to crop up, and also seem to have
extended the publishers on wired at some point. They're one of
the original one. So it's a she comes out and you know, she's
got it. And I am. So to be honest about it. Anybody out
there has tried to do this. In fact, I was almost profiled in
Playboy, not a hit piece, but a regular profile. But to be
honest about and it turns out, and, you know, this is, well, it
was anyone, I'm actually fairly dull person.
I was just gonna say, why would they even bother with a profile
on joy? He's a dusty old writer, dude. I mean, who likes food and
wine? I mean, what's your what do you want?
There's nothing going on. And so that's funny. So, anyway, so I
have, so they did the best they could, but I asked her point
blank. And, you know, I did my due diligence on her because I
never met her before. And I see her once in a while, say hi. But
you know, you always do your due diligence on the writer. So I
did as much research as I could. And I found out she was like a
vegetarian or vegan or something like that. So I insisted that we
go to dinner, and have our one of our meetings over dinner at
greens, which is a spectacular vegetarian restaurant, San
Francisco, which has this just a terrific food and, uh, you know,
that tends to be I always like to put people into a environment
where their food is distracting them from dealing with me. And I
usually I do it with press people, because I don't really
want to listen to their pitches for about their company. I'd
rather you know, have a good meal. And so she told me out she
said, yeah, yeah, it's just gonna it's it was designed to be
a hit piece told me that was just told me interested. So. So,
you know, they did what they could that they got one person
to say something bad about me. And they put that in there. So
you know, some PR woman said I was a jerk. And but that was
about it. And then somebody else defended me which of course, the
person who defended me got quoted, and gee, guess who gets
a little extra credit nowadays? I'm thinking like, I'm looking
at this as though there's a PR woman. One of them just says I'm
a jerk. And of course, they leave her name out. And the
other one says I'm a really okay guy. Which of these which one is
really the PR woman here? Yeah, you know, obviously, the smart
one, you know, whether I'm a good guy or not, she has to now
I have to always go out to take her call. And, and the other one
is obviously a moron. And I've run into effect. I ran into one
PR woman once I was because I do a lot of online research. And so
I run into this woman slamming me on some website about
something I don't know why. And I looked into it, she's a PR
woman. And she works for were three companies. Yes.
Smart. That's an let me write them out. Let me write about
that product. AD is, what an
idiot. Well, so
here's who owns the blue owns Bloomberg. Now, John, is that
Murdoch by that as well?
I don't know. I didn't know that Thunberg
sold I thought I guess sold. Maybe I don't use? I don't know.
Well, they came well, so I'm hoping we can still believe
believe what they write. But this, this is very Oh current
and caught my eye. Apparently, there's been mis measurements of
the Arctic sea ice due to faulty sensors. And the extent of the
Arctic sea ice, which of course has been claimed to have been
reducing severely. Well, it seems like they were off by
500,000 square kilometers. Because they have all these
faulty sensors. So is it melting or not?
Well, yeah, no, it's definitely melting. And I mean, we're all
in a globe with this as the global warming era. Yeah, we're
all going to die. Nor ignore that data in judiciary data.
Nah, man. You're crapping out. Don't don't know. Tell me to
stop downloading porn.
Nobody's up. And Bloomberg is a public company. It looks like is
that right? I think it's public. Yeah. Yeah. Bloomberg himself is
going to buy it back. Yeah, we'll make sense. Okay, it's
kind
of fun to see that Obama. You know, we had the governor's over
at the White House. Yeah. Guess what the entertainment was for
the dinner. John Legend will know, it's so incredibly unhip,
Earth Wind and Fire.
Oh my God. You're kidding.
I don't think I don't I don't think Philip Bailey who was the
original lead singer, I don't think he's even with the group
anymore. That's like getting the Four Tops. We get one top. Three
other guys. Are a pip. High with the pips. Earth Wind and Fire.
That's not That's not the epitome of cool.
No, not at all. I want to book that act.
No, who will? Probably the same person who publicize it, which
was probably the one that was calling you out. Stupid idiots.
So a big news today is that I'm I'm not sure how the numbers
work. But the President says that he is going within four
years he will bring the national deficit down by half to a little
over $500 billion.
And I'm saying that national deficit is not not a trillion.
It's more than that is no, no. Well,
of course that's a that's a whole trick. That's the annual
national deficit. The annual national deficit deficit was
like a trillion. Of course, now it's, you know, the I don't know
what what do we spend last year, like, Easy A trillion just on
bailout stuff? So yeah, the total numbers into the 10s of
trillions. But now, it just seems like what you know, and
he's gonna He's gonna have a plan on Tuesday how he's, you
know, I don't understand it doesn't mean you have to either
raise taxes and cut government spending in order to do that.
You have to do something. Yeah. So he's gonna tell us on
Tuesday, we can talk about on Thursday. You know, the problem
is everybody in this die of Horowitz talks about this and he
has some charts, I just need to repost them on my blog. Every
time one of these boneheads goes up and gives a speech like this
the market tanks the next day.
Incredible. Well, they should just shut up. Well, the DOD,
could you I mean, they somewhat I mean, dad's head has got to
get handed to him because of course, the whole and by the
way, I did call it only six days late, the market went below my
number of 7286. Below gold almost hit its all time high of
1003. I do want to say I call this in November, maybe even
October, but certainly November. And this is not a nananana
event. But it's very important because then, you know, there's
like some extra credibility that comes along with today. You
know, all right, he was right about that. So then I can be a
little more crack potty about some of the other stuff. Good.
Yeah. But it was Senator, the senator.
I think what it does is Yes, Senator, Senator is not it
doesn't go to 6000. I'll be okay.
It's gonna go to 6000 and s&p 600. Watch for that. That's the
real that's the real hard one that's gonna hit s&p 600 market.
I don't have a date for you. But yeah, I totally believe s&p 600
So already freaked out that it's under 800. You know that?
Yeah. Oh, no, I totally. I mean, just find this. So the market
tanked after and this was what was interesting after
Christopher Dodd, who is also in charge of the Senate Banking
Committee, I believe. He comes out and he says, Yeah, well, we
might have to nationalize the banks. Yeah, it could just be a
brief period of time. But we might have to nationalize the
banks. And so that's on Bloomberg, Bloomberg and start
spinning it as we've got this exclusive. And they play the
soundbite. And the market goes, the bottom just fell out
momentarily. And yeah, and then and then they rush back. And
these guys are clueless about this. They must
be clueless. They must be clueless. I mean,
nobody wants to hear from them. Shut up and get to work. Yeah.
No. So we want to talk about we store it, you know, another 900
subscribers to the podcast. I'm going to keep doing this every
week until we get to a actually, at some point, when we get to a
certain number. We're going to do three a week.
Of course we are. My goal is eventually we'll we'll be doing
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When we get to the right number, we'll have to go to three. And
also, because there's just too much to cover. There's too much
to talk about.
Right? There is I mean, we could go on, especially if your now
that you've decided to actually do research. Well, this show
what it's killing the show, man, at least it would it would it
kill you to do a little bit of research with to do something
here.
The way this show is for people that have heard just started
listening. So hold on a second, let me get this thing back on my
ear. The people just started listening to realize that when
we started doing this show, it was a casual conversation
between two guys, and we had a lot of stuff to catch up on. And
it was once a week. Yeah. And it was like, you know, we chat
about this. And then we get we realized that we knew something
about somebody get on a jam, you know, it'd be very interesting,
but if the show would would roam aimlessly. It'd be mostly though
about international stuff. And actually, we need to get back to
doing a little more of that. I'm ready to just, I'm ready. But
but the point anyway, was, we managed to get through an hour
and a half a week of just chatting. And we it was
interesting, it was an ebb and flow to the show. But then we
went to the twice and then you started taking it more
seriously. So then I started taking some of those lists, but
at least I'm trying and and so the show is now getting more
packed with more information. But I'm not going to complain
about because it's stuff that you're digging up about
especially about these these, which I realize that you've
stumbled on to an interesting idea, which is just pick anybody
out of this Obama group and Twitter and look at him and see
what the heck they're doing what they you know what they're up
to, and you've got a you've got a good 10 minutes of material.
So but the point is that people out there need to subscribe, and
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to throw a bunch of money at us. When I think that I'm thinking
of Dubai, I think by some somebody in Dubai,
just throw a throw sort of dollars. Yeah, exactly. So what
someone who's hurting into Oh, I spoke to my buddy, by the way.
And and he suggested there's a periodical which is believe it
or not petroleum journal monthly. And he suggest
subscribing to that it's a physical magazine. And he
confirmed he said the actual cost for the Saudis is $30 per
barrel of oil. And they've invested at over $100 barrel oil
in their infrastructure and their pleasure playground. And
he confirmed the 1000s of cars at Dubai airport. And of course,
what's happening now is everyone's pulling out all the
companies are moving down to South America. You know, there's
of course the whole East Timor, Indonesia thing, you know,
that's been going on for 1000s you hunt for 100 years. You
know, there's oil everywhere, and they're just moving out.
They're just saying goodbye. The Arabs are just being completely
obliterated. obliterated,
I tell you, I gotta get some documentation for that. This
assertion he was
going to give me the the issue where that was laid out pretty
clearly. And you know, he says, Look, I gotta lay off people
because it's a contractor business. And what's happening
is that because they're a, he works at a or oil services
company. And so basically setting up the infrastructure
in, you know, subcontract attracted through the big oil
companies. And, you know, so they'll give him a price on
something. And you know, instead of bickering over the price,
what the oil companies are doing is saying, Yeah, that's great.
That's interesting price. We'll call you again in six months. So
everything's being pushed off. Basically, nothing you know,
there's they're stagnating, there's no no investment nothing
going on. Because everyone's waiting for the price to go up.
It's just wonder
what they're gonna do with those. You got all these
buildings that they've thrown up and do by me. It's like, it's
almost like a
it's a it's a ghost town. Not everyone's gotta go. You gotta
find some way to go. Up seriously, we don't gotta go.
No, I disagree. There's no reason to go to Dubai. I've been
there's no reason to go.
been putting a Bali
crab man, you crab, tallest building? Don't talk. So maybe
it's when you talk about that? It happens back off.
Well, okay. So is that better? Do they sound better? Sound
little more detail the more FM radio. So so so do Emirates
Airlines. Let me Oh, I'm coming in clear Emirates Emirates
Emirates. Yes, we got you. Emirates now has had a direct
flight to San Francisco on a long haul 777 to Dubai. So I
figured we should probably find some way to get a comp flight.
Round Trip.
No. No. Why don't you go get that calm flight. All right. Why
don't you go sit in Dubai on Thursday. And then give me a
call. Because it's boring in Dubai. It's frickin boring. It's
boring. It's boring. I was there for a week. I wanted to shoot
myself after three days.
Well, it's it couldn't be more interesting. I mean, there's a
lot of shopping.
There's no hookers. There's no booze. There's no it's boring.
There's no cars anymore. But you're probably right. Compared
to I priced the flight just to see what the you know, thinking
well, I'm just looking, pricing the flight.
Let me go through some real important news here. You and
your Dubai I don't want I don't even tell you what the price. I
don't want to go to Dubai. I don't care. I want to sit in the
command center all day. Preparing for the show.
$10,000 seems a little high. What's $10,000?
The flight to Dubai $10,000. What was that first class? No,
it's business. Cheese. That's outrageous.
I think they're just living in a dream world if you think
all right, I'm gonna run through this, John. Just stop me stop me
when you want to Gordon Brown visiting Washington on March 3,
that will be underreported in the United States. So keep an
eye on it. See if if anything interesting shows up. Because of
course Gordon Brown is now on his trip. His new world order
trip as in head trip. He's at the G 20. Here we go. In Berlin.
Gordon Brown appeared upbeat about the success of the
Conference of European leaders. And here's a quote from him. We
will have a global system where we can identify and have
transparency and disclosure from all financial institutions,
including, of course, hedge funds. So that's the World Bank
that he's announcing there, essentially. This is, oh, this
will please you. This came in when real quick so it'll never
hit the headlines. The Army times which I do read.
You're good man. It's a good it's an excellent publication.
It's a great
publication. I had announced that the National Guard was
going to do what they call it a gun deployment while they were
they were going to do deployment Yes, in in a town in in Iowa are
Katie Iowa population 443. The guard had planned a four day
urban military operation of sending troops to take over the
town and searched door to door for suspected weapons dealers.
And so this got a lot of quick online press and now they've
scrapped it.
Wow. Well, that doesn't mean it's really scrapped. Well,
this is the thing they've underestimated the internet.
They thought that they You could fool us with the with their own
weather with the old Wag the Dog television tactics, but it's
just it's just not working anymore. You know, people are so
jaded. And of course, there's a lot of people actually bringing
us news online. It's like, Oh, I've been tracing back the
origins of Sir. Stanford. How that got broken. Apparently, it
was a Venezuelan trader. Who, who started? I think he wrote a
blog post about it. This is how hypothetic our SEC is. You wrote
a blog posts and blog. Well, yeah, exactly. Well, that's a
beautiful thing. You know, he said, Hey, man, this is this
shit is off. And that's apparently how it started to
spin out but I sent you that thing which it's, it's, it's
even too freaky a thing for us to talk about just because it's
so deep and detailed, and there's a lot of anti semitic
overtures in it, which I really don't like I don't know how to
get around.
You know, that's the thing we know you can do. I mean,
typically these to these people, it's always amazing to me, where
you have a person that seems to be outlining a very interesting
situation, then they fall off the boat. Like their brain can
maintain that the normal part of it and they go crazy with this,
you know, people think that we're kind of, you know, bring
out some of this conspiratorial stuff to to some extent you
mainly, but it's nothing like this stuff that we don't talk
about. Holy crap. Totally insane. Well, this
is the who's behind made off thing did you did you actually
have a chance to read that?
Yeah, I read that it's ridiculous. You know, gets
Israeli intelligence and this and that and the other thing and
doesn't really make a lot of sense well, I'm
I'm gonna put the link in the show notes so that you know,
someone out there might might trigger something and they might
think about something else because it is really just
connecting the dots you know that that's all we're doing. UK
loses highly sensitive Iraq War papers is another
How did these people are losing stuff constantly.
British Ministry of Defence documents on the Iraq war have
been reportedly stolen from a lawyer for a private law firm on
a train to London, these guys, you know, what happens is they
get on the train, even though Boris Johnson outlawed it, they
get on the train and they start drinking. And you know, you're
on the train for at least half an hour and then maybe an hour
and a half. Some people go on down south to the to the
southern counties, and the drunk that just the hammer the tire,
the train is kind of wobbly, you know, you're drinking a brewski.
And like, and then you leave it with your paper or whatever, you
know, you just leave it on the train.
That's why you lose it. And but then you blame it on it being
stolen.
Exactly. It's,
I mean, you can't what else you gonna say, Okay, let's take a
look. I'm a bureaucrat, I brought my shit on the train,
because I'm stupid. And it's not encrypted, because I don't
really know how to do that I'm too busy getting sloshed. And so
I get on the train, I go right to the bar, it's the first thing
I do. And then I started drinking. And you know, now have
another one. And you know, I've another one, you know, it's
always gonna be like Scotch or something to not, not not
Chardonnay, that's for sure. And, and it's a long way and you
don't want to deal with your you get wasted. I was on a plane
once with a guy who was a publisher of, let's say, a
magazine that I used to work for it was actually a PC World
publisher. And this guy was so he gots and I accidentally said,
our just by coincidence sat next to him. And he was a guy. And
this was years ago, so nobody could figure out who it is. But
he got hammered on the plane from New York to San Francisco.
I mean, I'm talking about hammered. And one of the reasons
for that is because the plane was delayed, and this is during
the era where if your plane was delayed by any amount of time
they would offer you, they'd open the bar up. And I don't
think I was in business, they might have been whatever the
case was, the bar was open one way or the other. And so this
guy kept having to vodkas, override to vote because I
turned to vodkas. And he couldn't drink very well, it
seemed to me and it but he had about maybe, I'd say 14 of those
little bottles of vodka. And so he was like really shot. And
then he I was concerned about it. So I you know, kept stayed
with him. And
by the way, you're you're like the girlfriend that holds holds
your hair back as you're puking. That's, that's your essential
role.
So I'm like hanging and making sure that guys don't get mugged
or something. So I you know, you wanted to go to his car and he's
like him comes off the plane, I'm gonna drive home. And I
said, I don't know if you shouldn't and he's fumbling
around for his keys. And he, you know, it's like the video, you
know, drops his keys and and falls down trying to pick them
up. And so I said, Hey, you know, I think I'll drop you off.
You know, maybe you can come back at the car later. So he
says yes, and so I hopefully doesn't throw up in my car. He
doesn't. And I dropped him off and it's like, you know, he has
some place in the city and what walked him up to his door where
he, I think he basically fell asleep on the on the stoop. And
I left I figured I did my job, I'm close enough. And then he
was fired some months later because apparently he was a
drunk. So guys, you know, in this horrible government job,
and they just leave the computer behind because they walk off and
leave it on the train and boom, there it goes. Yeah. And they
never see it again, somebody will pick it up and you know,
use it as their computer, they probably don't ever go to the
data files. And if they did, they wouldn't know what to do
with them. But no, it was stolen.
It is interesting, because the UK has been pretty good. And
this is a big flap over here. And I'm sure you're not hearing
about it at all in the US. That essentially, the British justice
department kept all these all the secrets about essentially
the the Bush White House, saying okay, you know, we're going to
be moving people around for secret interrogations and jails
all over the place, you're going to cooperate and shut up. And
then there's a there's the case of this one British man who's
been who was in Gitmo for four or five years tortured. And so
now it's all kind of coming out that mi six I guess, or maybe
even Ministry of Defense, that they knew about this, and they
actually participated in torture. And there's pictures of
the guys fingernails are torn out. And, you know, this is the
so called special relationship that America and Britain have
together. It's just disgusting. It's just it's really it's it's
vile Heschel relations today, listen to it, they'll keep
saying that special relationship. Here's a funny
one. Police officers were rushed to a hospital in the United
Kingdom after a suspicious substance was thrown through a
car window. So the Metropolitan Police responded to these
reports of an unusual smell coming from a car with smashed
windows in Enfield, North London. They saw an unknown
brown substance inside and those who came in to contact with it
were rushed to the hospital. It turns out it was HP sauce the
brown sauce I just love Oh, it's brown stuff. We're gonna die
it's gonna explode it's the brown stuff and it was that
horrible brown sauce.
Yeah HB a one sauce of England. Yeah, only
once only Don't Don't be confused. Made ain't no a one.
You know what I'll tell you the at the sauces that by the way, I
did a thing once where I went, I was traveling enough around the
world that I would buy hp, hp sauce, a one sauce and
Worcestershire sauce in different parts of the world.
And it's amazing how different the formulations are from place
to place it's not even you think as well as the same right? No,
no, no, no, no. Alien. And the one that if you anyone who wants
to try this in, get some really interesting products the I don't
recommend the HP in a once experiment anymore because for
one thing you can't use either one of those things if things
are almost all high fructose corn syrup, because I won't use
sugar which is the stuff that will kill you. It's up to you
know well now you're gonna get a letter. But step I think
Canada's only blessed hold up for using a lot of sugar and
stuff. And you know, cane sugar and but anyway the worst your
share sauce is the one that's the most extreme and it's
differences it's very interesting. Lee and parent
exact same brand tasty. Tastes radically different from country
to country. You know, what's
an interesting sauce? There was a guy who was on Dragon's Den,
which is kind of a reality show here in the United Kingdom. Is
it on the stage now? Dragon's Den? It must be on BBC America
or South America I
think I may have seen it Yeah,
I there's no US version yet. I know because they asked me for
it but the show never took off and never got greenlit and they
had a guy on who would who had was making the sauce in his in
his kitchen at home. And it was a Rasta guy right and he walks
in he has a cool song like reggae reggae sauce and he's
doing this whole roster thing and they taste the sauce and
they're like wow, this is good. You know we're gonna give you
whatever he was asking for 50,000 pounds or whatever to get
the business going. And now it's it's available and widely it was
a shit is really good. It's fantastic. It's the reggae
reggae sauce. It's kind of the jerk chicken like a jerk sauce
in a way. It has a it has kind of a nice little stinky bite
that's that lingers on. It's phenomenal. It's really really
good. So I will bring one over next time I come you'll like the
reggae reggae sauce. George Soros said on Friday. The this
is just to make you feel good. The world financial system has
effectively disintegrated, adding that there is yet no
prospect of a near term. On resolution to the crisis Sora
said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the
Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise
of the Soviet Union, he said the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in
September marked a turning point in the functioning of the
market, we witnessed the collapse of the financial
system. So take that and stick it in your head.
Well, hopefully he's wrong.
He's been pretty right about a lot of things. Of course, if
you're actually in control of some of it, then it's easy to be
right.
He also may be saying that because it might be a buying
opportunity.
Hey, John, why don't you take that $80 that we've been donated
so far to the curry Dvorak library and invest it wisely.
You think we've hit the bottom? My friend? Is that what you're
saying?
Well, I mean, it seems to me one of the things you want to do is
if you have a lot of money, and you're running a hedge fund type
operations, you want to key if you if the market is depressed,
you know, or oversold, that you'd want to make, push it down
to, as hard as you can. Because if you if you move the product
markets, typically as if you have a lot of money, you move
the market just by buying in. And it which is not good,
because you want to really you know, you want to have something
where where it can soak it up like a sponge, as opposed to you
know, that I was people. This is what happens in Horowitz and I
were talking about this. This is what happens when people play
paper trading, you know, they just want to practice.
I heard this discussion. It was very funny about the pink slips.
Were piano trading penny stocks. Yeah, of course. But that's the
way it's all set up is you you you practice, you practice you
trade. You're like, oh, man, I'm doing so great. I'm making
6070 $100,000. And then you do it for real money and you lose
your shirt.
Yeah. Just sweat. It's the way
it is. Yeah, we've all done it. We've all been there. We've all
done the backtrader. That's another one. Yeah, test your
strategies with back trades. So you can actually see how much
money you would have made if you had implemented your strategy.
That's my favorite.
Yeah, it's a classic. So anyway, the so guy like Soros, you know,
to get to do anything he has to have, you know, it has to be
this sponge condition where it's just can soak it up. And then
once it's stabilized, and it starts going up, you that's
where you make all your, you know, make serious money. But,
you know, so I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if you can trust
him. You know, that's the problem. I mean, I admired him,
he's the one who, who brought in Greenberger to talk about the
oil prices in front of Congress, which, which kicked off the
collapse of the price of oil, because once the scam was
realized, the next thing you know, which, by the way, still
people still say what was shortage, you know, in their
peak oil, you know, that all that bullshit was like revealed
to be a fraud. And of course, people still don't know that. I
don't know what why the media doesn't get around to telling
them but so he I mean, he's been in the in the game here, and
they're trying to do what he can. But you know, I don't
believe this is true what he says because it just doesn't
make because it's not true. I mean, it's not. It's not I mean,
it's not in good shape, but it's not collapsed.
Well, I tend to agree with the distinguished gentleman. Mr.
Soros, I think he's just he's playing a sucker's game. Okay,
I'm still predicting 600 s&p and 6000 down.
Okay, predict what you want. Um, this time, I'm not agreeing with
you, like I did with a $200 oil that's thrown back in my face
now. That's okay. No, just casually said, Yeah, I guess it
could happen. Okay.
Berkshire Hathaway has just as a data point there, has dropped to
almost 50% in the past year, this is
the world's greatest investor and world's greatest investor.
We talked briefly and this is I realized that that you know, I
kind of glossed over this myself, and how outraged you
were about it, when we spoke about it last, the idea that the
government was going to start taxing us by the mile using a
black box with a GPS and instead of gasoline tax, you would pay
your taxes, of course, your carbon taxes, etc. per mile that
you drove, and you really went off on it. You're like, oh,
that's never gonna happen. It's crazy. It's outrageous and ice.
And I told you that this is being implemented in several
countries. And I realized that, you know, living in the UK and
having lived in the Netherlands, it was so easy for me to accept
the idea that no matter how outrageous, I've already been
conditioned, because I remember hearing the story and I was
like, No, that's crazy man. That's like such an invasion of
privacy, etc, etc. But I really wasn't outraged because everyone
over here is conditioned. I think we're five years ahead of
the US. Everyone's just conditioned like, okay, yeah,
they'll probably do that. They'll probably implement that
and they will then it will happen the United States even
though course that story has been denied by Robert Gibbs once
again. Because that was Rayleigh hoods suggestion. And he did say
it to the press. And so now it's, it's been pulled off the
table, but I think these are all just little trial balloons.
They're going to do that. That's for real. And let me mention one
more thing while I'm on the tracking shit. So I had
installed Google Maps. Now I have how's your battery doing on
your E? 71? We got them. You got yours? Maybe three months after
me? Yeah. Okay. How's the battery life doing? Fine. I
mean, what's the two days for four days? So I've got this e
71. I've had it longer than you have. I've called very little on
it since we moved to this house for two reasons. One, because it
doesn't really have T Mobile doesn't have really great
reception down in the basement where I am. So I have to put it
near the window. And so you can't walk around that kind of
defeats the purpose. So yeah, and I usually use Skype and I
have it rigged up through the system like I do now. So I can
have people on the speakers and you know, I can I can play sound
effects whenever I want to. It's much more fun. So I don't use it
a lot. I
use sound effects in your regular normal phone calls.
Oh, man on the conference calls. Are you kidding me? We have the
video conference calls.
Okay, all right. All right.
So I've got the use of that one. Yeah, that's I don't use that
one. Yeah, actually, I use. I use this one. There are white
folks. And then there are ignorant motherfuckers. Like
you?
Yeah, well, that's a good one. Yeah.
So I had installed Google Maps with the latitude. functionality
when I went to see the Queen, right, a couple days before, and
I had installed this and, and I learned that it was pretty easy
to quit the application, but it was actually still running
because it asks you it does ask you Do you know? And oftentimes,
you'll be it'll be like, yes, you know, because you think it's
saying Do you want to quit? Do you really want to quit? Because
that's kind of the last message you get. But this message says,
Do you want to keep sharing your location? So I had I had been
trapped by that once before. But then I got, I didn't like that.
And I'm like, I'm just going to uninstall this thing, because
it's bugging me that, that I actually flipped through that.
And again, who knows, ever since I've uninstalled it, my battery
runs out very quickly. So I bought a new battery, just to
prove,
right? That is something going on. And I
believe that it is making connections. It's PI's a
possibility that it's making connections. And doing something
because something has changed. Because the battery is literally
running out overnight is next to my bed. It's you know, it's
always been full bars in the morning. And I wake up and it's
either almost empty, or it's giving me a low battery warning.
And it's a brand new battery that I put in just just to prove
that you know that something was going on that is not the
battery.
Well, how about this for an idea? I think you're probably
right. Anyway, I'm reminded so you tell the story course of
like bit torrents. You know how these people get burned, because
they have a bit torrent going. They don't know that there's
doing file sharing, you know, because you know BitTorrent is
you download something, but you're uploading tonight,
whether you know it or not, or those old music sharing sites,
you know, where you had, you know, you're basically always
online, you didn't know it, you know, you were
sure? Oh, yeah, sure, the System Tray stuff, all kinds of there's
all kinds of particularly on Windows and you get any, almost
any bit torrent client and if you quit the client, but it
keeps sharing,
right, and your next thing you know, the feds are knocking on
the door, you know, exactly.
So very well here, you got some gold in there.
So, son, so you're gonna, what you have to do obviously, is you
have to pull your memory little memory card out. And just
forget, put it in like one of those little holders, they
there's little micro SD cards, you stick the little bitty card
into a bigger card that you put in your computer, just erase the
damn thing. Now there was all your applications have got to
go. I mean, make backups of your address book, and then probably
do the same thing to your SIM card. And once the SIM card in
that little card erase, I'll bet you the problem goes away
because it can't there's nothing in terms of the phone that I
know of that would that would that would unless it's got some
sort of I can't think of anything.
And I'll tell you that I think I think there was one point during
the day where I looked at my phone, and I saw the 3g, I saw
that there was a network connection and I went What the
hell is that? That I'm and I'm switching around, I had no apps
open. I went to No, I had Google Maps was D installed by them and
I have no idea what was connecting.
Okay, I have one other possibility your phone's been
compromised and it's basically on listening to you all the time
and it's relaying the information to someone that's
possible. Looks like it can happen. Yeah. Okay, I know what
I know it would defeat that immediately. What's that? Turn
the phone off and turn the phone off?
Yeah. I tend to actually take the battery out. I think we have
to take the battery out to be 100%. Sure.
Yeah, I guess if it was done right, you could you could turn
the phone off, I would still be let me
let me just, Hey, guys, it's okay. I'm harmless. Just talk to
him. Okay, that's true. We got a couple we got a couple more
stories, John, just just maybe even stuff we'll talk about on
Thursday. Euro just, which is the EU's judicial Cooperation
Agency is taking the lead in finding ways to help police and
prosecutors across Europe to wiretap Skype calls. Because
they're, they're apparently upset that they can't listen to
us on Skype. And I just tuned into the stream, it's a lot
easier.
Right. And, by the way, if you're listening at your
intelligence agency, please dvorak.org/n A, we could use the
donations for the curry divorce library. Because I have the
album art for it. We've got to mention the wacky ass blue
Mustang at Denver International Airport as another piece of the
puzzle of the weird art. Of course, a part of this thing
fell on its creator and killed him. Just to make it an even
better story.
Supposedly.
Supposedly, what do you think is like, like a Trojan horse and
the belly opens up and all kinds of things pop out.
And it could be some insight that they didn't want anyone to
know about like a transmitter or some sort of a who knows what.
And you know, fractal antennas designed for something specific
and this guy was going to mention that in the interview
they were going to do with him after he finished the horse and
so they had to kill him.
We laugh but we're not really we're not really that happy
about it. And a piece for the just for fun because of course
tonight is the at first Annual Academy Awards, which will
probably right at low ratings, because again,
there's a theme, you know, for these awards called the year of
the dog.
Really, because of Slumdog
Yeah, that that's a pun, right? Because it's a and yeah, it's
also this is ridiculous. These movies are boring.
Well, this is the point. Every single year they do these really
artsy fartsy movies which by the way, some of them are really
good but they're not like the big blockbuster hits the
audience doesn't show up for the award show people it's like you
know, like, oh, well, the you know, I guess the numbers are
down again. Well, of course because boring. Anyways, leaked
out on the interwebs is the list of winners if you care to care
to hear who's going to win would like to Boiler Yeah,
wait a minute, maybe I thought that these things were sealed by
good housekeeping or somebody and the
Martha Stewart good house. Okay,
we'll check. Okay, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna
reveal. We're gonna check the bullshitter now.
Do you want do you want to take a quick wager? Hi, baby.
Welcome. Thank you, darling.
Yeah, I'm gonna wager that these I'll make a Five buck bet that
these are bogus.
Okay. All right. So let's just do the big ones. Actor in a
Leading Role Who do you think's gonna win?
Who's nominated again?
I know. I don't give you that they just give you the names.
I'll tell you what is the wrestler Jimmy Rory McIlroy.
Mickey Rourke exactly. Okay, then you'll also know Actor in a
Supporting Role male I don't remember who of course, Heath
Ledger Of course, he's got to get it.
Right. Yeah, exactly. Because he's dead because he's dead
Actress in a Leading Role. You know who that's going to be?
Who? Kate Winslet Oh yeah. Right deboarding everything and then
and then it gets a little more esoteric so I'll just give you
Actress in a Supporting Role would be Amy Adams who I do not
know. Best Picture Slumdog Millionaire. What other Okay,
here's here's one of the
best director gives Best Dressed
director Hold on.
Interesting this could be go anywhere.
So cinematography, cause Well, it's interesting.
You don't have Best Director.
I'm looking how come I can't see it. This picture cinema?
Cinematography, is that following the cinematography? No
direct directing direct here it is Danny Boyle for Slumdog
Millionaire. How about this documentary feature? Okay,
that's one that if that's right then you know the list was good.
No,
it's not no because there's one guy that's so far out in front
on that one the one that did does that did a documentary
about Cambodia.
Oh, well, according to this it's man on a wire. Oh, okay. She's
might be Isn't that the about the French guy that walked
between the Twin Towers? I don't know. Yeah, I think so. Okay, so
man on a wire. If that if that wins, then we'll know that this
list was pretty good if all the other ones are correct, but we
have to
post the list on the notes. Yep. And then we can make the
comparison and see what what didn't work. So, you know, I
think a series of good guesses, you know, because there's been,
you know, they've had enough award shows already. And they
typically, you know, there's a percentage of these, you know,
there's very rarely a surprise that, you know, you wouldn't
have guessed. And this year, it looks like it's kind of rigged,
especially for the actors and actresses.
And then as we close down the show with one hour and 30
minutes, one final piece of news that just made me chuckle coming
in from the Netherlands. As you know, I'm I've been harping for
quite a while I'm against the vac the Gardasil HPV
vaccination, I feel that it's not proven, there's children who
have died from this, it's, I believe, it's the pharmaceutical
industry just trying to make tons of money with in cahoots
with the government. And so they you know, many nationalized or
social socialized healthcare systems are buying this from the
big pharmaceuticals, and then they give it free to citizens of
the country, which is this other scam has already done right. So
they they can, somehow they convinced the medical
authorities, this has to be in the package, because when it
goes save millions of girls from cervical cancer, and so the
government then buys it, they and this is a very expensive
process, it consists of three vaccinations, you have to come
back three times or come back twice. After the initial one. I
believe the total package is four or $500 per patient. So
this is a big ticket item. And well, it's quite, you know, the
side note is it's killing people. Thank you, darling. So
in the Netherlands now because of course there is a thank
goodness, there's there's a lot of a lot of people saying hey,
you know, the same such a certain date, and I hope I can
take some responsibility for that in the Netherlands
specifically, this is not a sure deal, right. And so people are
saying, Well, I'm not I'm not so positive. So what did the health
system come up with? Hey, if you come and you take your first
shot, and you come back for the other two, we'll give you a free
iPod.
Oh, that is so debt is sick.
How horrible is that? These are 13 to 16 year old girls. And and
they're sending them letters, letters with this offer. Ah,
heck get sick. So I'm the crackpot doo doo doo doo doo doo
doo
typically, is our example of consumer protections
kill? Yeah, of course. Exactly. wrap
it back around. Yeah, yeah, we
totally need it. All right. Well, so that's, that's what's
happening in the world. All right.
We'll be back on Thursday. Yeah, and you're going to be back in
I'll be back in the Bay Area and in the bay or Silicon Valley.
Otherwise known as get mo nation. north north Sun Thor
week west or north get
the get the gizmo nation. Hey, we had about double the normal
audience on the streams today.
I managed to Twitter at 10 You know, with the right address, I
think Oh,
you don't think it's just because the show was gathering
steam and we're just on fire right now. It's none of the Oh,
and Oh, I totally forgot I was gonna play my Obama song. Let me
save it.
Save it to Thursday. That's a teaser.
Well, it's not really an it's not a it's a it's a it's an old
song.
Well, don't blow it for us. We had everybody all the needle.
It's a good one.
Coming to you from Gitmo nation east in southwest London in the
crackpot command center. I'm out of time.
And I'm John C. Dvorak here in the Pacific Northwest, also
known as the get more nation Pacific Northwest. I'm John C.
Dvorak, as I said, we'll talk
to you again on Thursday right here on no agenda.