Navigating the New World Order from opposite ends of Gitmo
nation. It's time once again for no agenda. Greg Levin Buzzkill.
from Gitmo nation east in southwest London in the curry
terrorists. I'm Adam curry.
I'm John C. Dvorak here in Silicon Valley north, also known
as the get mo nation.
Big thanks to Jeff Smith v. Jeff Smith, for cutting that jingle
for us.
We'll have more hopefully you like that though. Don't you,
Nick? Cool. Oh, yeah, that's the way to go. We might as well go
back to go back to this style. Because nobody does that stuff
anymore. So just a gag and we might as well just do it.
I bet you there's still top 40 stations out there that do the
whole let me tell you what's going on
Buzzkill. So sorry. See, the problem is with you, it may just
turn into the entire show.
It is possible also known as daily source code, not so weakly
anymore.
Yes. So the one thing I mean, the I think most of those top 40
shows have all deteriorated into the zoos.
Well, it really started with the zoo format. I believe Scott
Shannon is still doing I
go back and I'm talking about you go way back into the 60s
before. Right. Well, of course, you had guys like Dr. Don rose
in the San Francisco Bay. It was a classic example of this. He
would have the you know the bell. He'd have the horns in the
honks and he'd have a million jingles millions of jingles and
tell jokes and play top 40 And he's always telling jokes, in
fact that there's one joke that I still remember him telling you
that I still tell this joke.
Okay, you're gonna hit us with a joke.
Yeah. A nun decides to our girl decides to go into a nunnery
where there's a vow of silence, but that she's allowed to say
two words every year. So she joins up and she's in their
student she goes into see mother superior to tuts to say her two
words after one year and she says bed hard. So she's no goes
back into the silent mode. And then a year later, she she the
whole year goes by mother's superior brings her and she says
her two words and she said what's your two words? It says
food bad. So another whole year goes by and the mother superior
brings her and she says okay, well what's your What are your
two words this year? And the and the nun says I quit Mother
Superior says well, you doesn't surprise me you've been doing
nothing but complaining ever since you got here.
Wait, oh shit, I'm sorry.
Oh my goodness. But it was just like this is you know, this.
That was the end of an era and again, those those DJs you know,
presumed DJs and top 40 radio back when I mean this was like,
pre 1970 We're making a quarter of a million or more dollars a
year I mean, which is equivalent about $2 million. I mean,
they're well paid
with the Morning guys in the in the early early 80s. We're doing
a million I mean, okay, well the major market Yes. And Scott
Shannon is still doing a morning zoo on 95 Five PLJ something
like that.
Well anyway, those days I think pretty much over and I don't
know anybody who does a podcast it runs all this all the all the
dole the sound effects and jingles and
things. I come close sometimes a little bit of the intro
jockeying, but that's about it. Hey, man, forget all that stuff.
Guess where I was this morning?
You were in Amsterdam know
where I was visiting the queen.
Oh is today. The day you visit the queen? So she did this on
Darwin Day.
Yeah, interesting. I don't think she has any clue that his darlin
day
to be honest. Okay, so let's go out.
All right, so let me start at the beginning. So first of all
the car that picked me up John had Wi Fi on board that was
pretty cool. Have you ever had that? Yeah, it was a Mercedes S
Class and oh, no, no, you get and so it has the the television
monitors in the headrest in on the front seat so you can watch
TV in the back direct broadcast television I might add. So It's
a digital so none of this you know, snowy stuff. And then nice
there's a sticker actually I've put it up on my Flickr site
there's a sticker right in between on the console of the of
the driver, you know, the driver's front console has Wi Fi
on like, Hey, dude, this is so yeah, go ahead. I just fired up
my phone and boom got a connection. I mean, I'm sure it
would have been faster if I use my own 3g connection, but the
idea is kind of cool, huh? Yeah, that was nice. Drove up to
Buckingham Palace through the front gates. I gotta tell you
this was very exciting to just be kind of waved on and the you
come in. So this is where we're, you know, people can still walk
at this point. It's just there's normally no cars allowed in the
in the circular part. Oh, by the way, I turned on my my Google
Latitude so people could track me. And I got to actually gotta
put on the curry.com I, someone sent me a picture of me and my
little face that are in Buckingham Palace, because of
course you couldn't take pictures cell phones had to be
turned off. So I kind of cheated by leaving the cell phone on but
it's silent and I figured I just all I could really do is just
broadcast my location so now here's the interesting thing so
then there's there's the gates where you're actually where the
public is not allowed. And so they stopped the car and then
they check the car. Which really only consisted of opening up the
the bonnet. That's the hood to you and I and the and the boot
the trunk. And that was it. And they didn't ask me anything
didn't you only spoke to the driver? Okay, drove through the
gates Park to actually he has dropped me right right off and
you drive through the gates and you get to this courtyard, which
is really kind of dreary, it's just a square courtyard is yeah,
it's square courtyard, but on one side is the entrance and
there's a red carpet so you stop at the red carpet and walk up
the red carpet and and I had my my invite which is really just a
piece of paper with a number on it and my name and my photo ID
and said oh no, you'll need that later. So just hold on to it I
put it in my inside pocket went off the cloak room hung up my
coat and then may I take your clothes closer and then walked
up the up the steps into kind of this holding area. There's about
I'd say 5060 people there anybody you know well I'll get
to that. So I walk in and you know it's kind of it's really
like a almost like a cocktail party reception and I what I
really tried to do is really keep my eyes open my ears open
because I you know I have to be the camera now to be able to
tell the story. So I read your material Yeah, thank you and I
looked at all the details the art first of all John you would
have shit yourself. I mean this place this this waiting hall
kind of a rectangular Hall all gold by the way the ceiling
everything is all gold. But the art It was It wasn't portraits,
which is what because normally it's all the stately portraits
but this was Rembrandt, Vermeer, Albert Cobb young stain all
these fantastic Dutch masters, you can walk right up to him.
And and particularly the Dutch masters would do like, you know
marketplace scenes, and there's always kind of sexy, funny stuff
in there. So there's, you know, all these weird people and you
know, women, you know, I guess, Loose Women on the square
hanging out with guys. It was just phenomenal to see all these
art works of art that I'd never heard of before. You. I'm sure
they're in a book somewhere. I was just like, wow.
And you might be surprised. Yeah. And
the handout. The handout drinks all the little page boys and
girls. Beautiful. What was the drinks? The drinks were red
wine, white wine, water. Orange juice or champagne. I chose for
champagne. They were serving mums, champagne. Okay, which is
always what they serve at the I asked obviously, that's what
they always serve at the receptions
must be the one that's approved by the Queen. Yes.
And so a couple of interesting things in this waiting room. The
fireplaces had electric heating elements in them, which I just
found kind of odd. Kind of a bummer. You know you really want
that you know real fiery feel in the in a place like that. Coal.
Exactly. Well, that's what they would be typically. And so in
the middle of this rectangular room, there's mirrored doors
which is we know we're going to be going through there because
in front of the mirror doors is a huge plasma display. Showing
the can't remember it switched but they weren't showing the the
new website because this is what this was about. This was for the
launch of the of the relaunch of royal.gov dot UK the Royals
website. But what's funny is the branding it was on a stand that
had a huge LG sign. It's pretty, pretty, pretty lame. And every
other monitor in the place by the way was Panasonic. So then
the then the doors open. And actually I had one guy come up
to me he's from Australia, he was the consultant on the
website. And so they they hired in a consultancy, the
consultancy then said, Okay, here's what we think you should
do. Then they hired another company to build it. And he said
they were real sticklers about budgets, and it was pretty
funny. So then you walk in, and then you have your car and I
remember I have not been checked, I've not walked
through. I mean, I could have had a fucking Uzi in my ass or
anything. And by the way, I probably could have you know,
anything there was no check whatsoever. Not not at any
moment was my identity checks. Just nothing which I just found
peculiar. So then the doors are open, you walk in and then
there's two guys and the Queen, she's right there. And then you
all walk in one by one and you hand your your little piece of
paper which has your name on it. And then the first guy says Mr.
Adam curry and then hands the piece of paper to the guy next
to the Queen and he leans over and says Mr. Adam curry and then
you walk up and you shake the Queen's hand and she has a firm
handshake I might my dad and you know, I looked right in the eye
and put my finger
there's some protocol for addressing the queen.
Well, another interesting thing no one gave any any hints or
help or whatever I'd asked I had asked a number of people and
they said the probably the the best and coolest way was the
dresser with ma'am. So I said Pleasure to meet you man. And I
would meet her later on which I'll get to and so the so there
was a cat there like you know the royal camera and video crew
so I'm hoping to get a picture of it because that that's just
kind of cool for the archives. She bought five for three and
she was wearing I swear to god John a chroma key green suit.
You could if we get video of this you can key anything you
want onto her outfit. It was phenomenally green. But like
that ugly kind of.
Yeah, no, I know. That one color green that they use the key on
the one color green. You figured no one ever is wearing that
color. Well guess what? The Queen wears that color?
Maybe Yeah, just in case, but I was no one's keen on me. Yeah,
really. She wore beautiful
pearls, a huge diamond brooch and she was continuously
clutching her black handbag. So everyone, you know walk out
again it's only 56 black
hands they had the pepper spray in.
Exactly. And so then we turn left into the room the front of
the room they've got a nice six panel flat screen kind of
display unit rather large and once again there were all served
in the canopy has come out and the same mom champagne and I
asked all of these these pages I said No What is this and they
had little you know, the puffy dough with the fish bits on the
inside. I'm not quite sure what what those would be called. But
even there, they're twisty breads that ask every single
thing did you guys make this? Oh, yes, it's all made in house.
It's not from Marks and Spencers. No, no, it was
everything they passed on. Like who made this? Did you make this
work? So
everything is not sawed yet.
So it's so then then someone comes up behind us and says,
Could you please make a path for the queen? So everyone kind of
knew the sea of people parts. And then the Queen walks in. And
it's it's crazy because she walks in and complete Hush. I
mean, you could have heard a pin drop on the carpet. It was so
quiet. And she walks up in this little podium there. And she
says she's standing right and it's very weird because you know
how self Christian I would be embarrassed. You know you
because she walks up. She's standing there. She's on
display. Everyone's gawking at her. And then and this was the
cool part. Who was there to to officially launch the site with
a little intro speech and then handover the first clip to the
Queen. none other than Mr. Tim Berners. Lee. No, which made
total sense right, Sir Tim? Yeah, yeah, Sir Tim, and I have
I have exchanged email with him many years ago. And of course,
you know, let's just be honest, this is the guy who invented the
web, not Al Gore. He's Have you use
Al Gore invented the internet.
I'm sorry. As a writer due to the web, that's right. Owl did
the internet and then Tim Berners Lee did the web while
he's certainly recognized for inventing the concept of the
web. If you met him in person,
yeah, actually I hung out with him up in Telluride one year and
went drinking with him and he got unfortunately it was either
I think he was with his wife and maybe one of his kids and one of
them got when you can tell you're right, it's a weird
little place because it's like 12,000 or 13,000 feet is like
being in the Andes. And a lot of people get altitude sickness.
Why sure,
but doesn't aspirin help against that?
I don't know. I never have had it but the I know what if you
chew coca leaves that helps a lot the but I always take
there's a little bar there that is really fun to go drinking in
which is an alcoholic all the things you're not supposed to
do. High altitude go drinking I think he went there if I'm not
mistaken, and got some sort of a devastating headache had to
leave a day early. So Well, sir,
what what I thought was interesting is he's a nice, very
nice guy. Very nice, very nice. And he's kind of like me, it
kind of has, you know, like his motor skills are kind of weird.
He's kind of twitchy and twisty and all over the place.
A little bit, you know, your hammer, like shaking in your
boots.
No, no, but it was just kind of funny, because I was like, man,
if someone's looking at the two of us, kind of, you know, like,
fucking Maka. Motherfuckers. To
be British,
so yeah, so he wasn't, he's not a great, or he wasn't great
today. He, it sounded like he was nervous until I realized,
yeah, he's just kind of like, a little messed up. Let me just
get rid of that. So he does a little speech, which was, you
know, completely uninteresting. You know, he tried to kind of
bring together the, you know, the all the people communicating
and we need information and yeah, okay, Tim, we got it. It's
free champagne, move on. And then he hands over a a wireless
remote to the Queen. And then she clicks and then the website
opens up. And they said, Oh, we have something special. She
clicks again. And then I guess they have some they took high
resolution panoramic panoramic pictures of one or a couple of
the palaces, not Buckingham Palace as far as I understood.
So you can kind of navigate around, you know, the, you know,
the virtual walkthrough. And, you know, so that's like, okay,
so it's, that whole thing took the Queen clicking on it's like,
she's up there for like, five minutes. And everyone's like,
looking at a webpage. You know, I mean, it's it. There's the
queen in front of a big screen, looking at a webpage. I mean,
this is not a participatory sport or anything, you know,
it's kind of like, Okay, now what are we supposed to do? And
so, you know, somehow Tim got every everybody out of it. Okay.
Applause Good. There we go. And then, you know, they had
monitors along all along one side of a wall. And they had
school kids, helping people out as they could, you know, could
serve through this, but that, so I figured I'd go over to hang
out with, with Tim. And it was a good choice. Because the Queen
then starts mingling, I was flabbergasted. And so I'm
talking to Tim, who has a foundation by the way that he
started on had you heard about this the World Wide Web
Foundation?
Is that the one that is promoting the Semantic Web with?
No, I don't think so. This is more like a one abstraction
layer lower than net neutrality. Basically, I say, Save the one
may have saved, saved, save the web. And so we're talking about
Yeah, I'm like, Hey, man was totally good. John Doerr and Ray
lane to pull some money out for this because you know, those
guys rely on it. And so of course, he was all ears on that
and had a little chat and then the queen comes over starts
talking to him. And I got you know, I got like, one little
word in there. Because really, it's weird talking with the
queen.
Well, what do you what have you got in common? And what are you
going to say? Like
nothing nothing and like, I'm thinking there's a million
things going through my mind like hey, my wife is just as
small as you want to dance. You know, I had no idea what to say.
How about the how about do you know your dress is chromic Well,
I
said this to one of the she has two guys who are her her
personal guys I guess. And they kind of span that probably about
four or five feet now maybe six feet distance and I just always
kind of watching So You know, they're more like Butler's that
they look big enough to probably beat you up but they're really
proper guys. And you can see that they're just trying to make
it all flow and making sure no one's bothering the Queen, but
they really stayed at a distance though. All time and I was
talking to someone else. And he overheard me talking about the
the chroma key. And he was he was laughing today totally.
Because all these guys are media savvy now I guess. And yeah, and
I think she was there for probably like half an hour. She
just, you know, kept mingling around. And I met someone
forgot to say anything to her like, what do you think of this
economy anyway?
Yeah, that was that was really the top of my mind.
Did you guys get in in any of that Bernie Madoff funds.
I want to buy some gold coins. Get you a good deal. I did meet
someone very good for us, John. Or when you come and visit, I
met the director of the British Library. And open invitation he
says any book you want to see, I'll be more than happy to bring
it out for you. And I said, Wow, that's kind of cool. Because I
was watching Stephen Fry last night and he built a Gutenberg
Printing Press. And he went any you got to look at the one of
the Gutenberg Bibles with the white gloves. He says, Oh, we
don't do white gloves. What do you mean? So we have gotten we
have to Gutenberg Bibles. And you're welcome to look at it.
You're welcome to look through it. And we don't believe in
gloves. We believe that the gloves will have there's more
chance because you have less sensitivity in your in your
fingers. There's more chance you might rip a page. And yeah,
sure, you might get a little bit of oil on it. But hey, it's
meant to be used. And I was
struck by that. Huh? That's where we're going. Yeah, so we
had been thumbing through the Gutenberg Bible.
What's this thing about Revelation? I can't figure it
out. Can you turn on your speaker just a bit?
Actually, it would be a yes. It would be interesting to have him
bring out the Gutenberg Bible wanted you know, whichever one
he wants to show us with one of the best illuminated scripts and
and do a comparison illuminated scripts by you know, these these
Bibles used to be handwritten written I mean, what before the
Greek word Bible Yeah, Gutenberg, you know, was
considered the devil by many because he mass produced the
Bible and the Bible until it before then were all
individually crafted one by one by scribe. Right. And then they
you know, there was everyone was baffled when the Gutenberg Bible
first came out because all of a sudden instead of just selling
one or two every so often he was selling him by the hundreds and
people were befuddled by this and they considered him to be
the must have been the work of the devil.
Well yeah, according to the documentary Stephen Fry did once
he saw he got it all working and then he had an investor and he
you know, the investors that I'll need my money back and then
he didn't have the money so he had to sell all this stuff and
he died in poverty. Doesn't that suck my money because I want my
money back so you had to sell all of his his presses and then
you never got but it's a fascinating story. But anyway,
so we we could don't think of the Magna Carta
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of first first and we
can take a look at that you know you Oh, this is beautiful
Okay, I just want to write down a note here was rip off a corner
if
so, then I went then we then it kind of ended it's almost like a
prince party as in the purple one because you know it's over
you know, the doors open and the and the pages and the butler's
and they all kind of do the lights
flashlights, Flash, it's like
please ladies and gentlemen, the Queen has left the building and
the you go out down a different staircase, big portraits and I
and I really took my stupid I couldn't have really recorded
all of this. So I'm taking my time I'm looking at all these
portraits and and there's one and everywhere there's a guy you
know, just standing there and I'm like, you know I'm just
looking at the beautiful art you know that I'm here he says oh,
no problem, sir. It just point out which one you'd like we'll
wrap it up and you can take it
he said that yeah, it was funny. Funny. Yeah. Everybody's a
comedian everyone's
a comedian. I made a point to go to the bathroom or which app so
all right big letdown big letdown. It's like a like a
modern airport bathroom.
Oh that's a crime
totally and No, no no little because of course I was looking
to rip something off you know the the champagne glass was
actually it wasn't really a proper Shang champagne glass it
was a wide mouth kind of STEM glass with beautiful er two on
it and you not something you could slip into your pocket
without it being very noticeable. So I'm figuring I'll
take a towel or something like that. And you know if they've
got like fucking Kleenex
laying. Yeah, that would they should have as they should have
a really ornate bathroom. It's old fashioned. And in this you'd
have a big bucket full of the Like matchbooks Thank you
something like that. Right? Right. They have the Queen's
thing on their end and with a sign do not take
or we will have to add $14 to your bill.
And then everyone takes one of those matchbooks home and that
would be your see you know you kind of your souvenir because
people do have a feel obliged to have some souvenir from events
like this, whether it's a napkin or like you said a wineglass or
something. They always I mean, I'm sure that the Buckingham
Palace is just constantly being ripped off.
Oh, no doubt, then this was clearly the, you know, the
reception side of the house. But anyway, it was it was really
nice. And it was.
It was Tim Berners Lee email.
What do you mean to get his email?
Did you get his email, you can mail him and tell him that
you're going to help him get funded for his whatever?
Oh, yeah. No, that was the whole that was my whole ploy to hang
out close to the Queen. Just like yeah, I'll get your money
no matter. Yeah. Let me stand here. Tim, go ahead. I'll get
you money. Tim. Yeah, no problem, buddy. Yeah, no. I've
got his and rosemary leaf, who is the director of the Worldwide
Web Foundation. And she had her daughter with a mess. stunningly
beautiful girl.
Really? Yeah. So what's to younger, younger?
No, I got like 16.
So did you know anybody else there besides Berners? Lee,
interestingly enough, the only other guy that I recognized was
the CEO of blinks.
The CEO of blinks.
Yeah. And and he said, I have no idea. How come I was invited. He
is Brees British. And he although he lives in San
Francisco, he's old because they're listed on the I think
the pink slip exchange over here. So they went public. So
what's
the rule? Did everyone have name tags? Yeah, name tags you go
looking around at people and say, Oh, that's so and so. Yeah,
actually,
the name tag I did take with me it has the little er two logo on
it. With my name on it, but it's not like a towel or anything. So
and there's no
you didn't feel obliged. The protest affected the House of
Windsor shouldn't even be in power.
To get your tongue say got your tongue show me if it's split
your reptile aren't you? Anyway, she's almost at man. She's looks
pretty damn good. Yeah, well, that's a good life. Yeah, go
booze up and hang out with some geeks and have some canopies.
And back to bed. Whatever she does
she probably does at least two of those deals a day.
I wonder. The website is actually interesting. The new
website W I might as well plug it www.royal.gov.uk
And now they get the high fives going on in England. We did it
we've gotten our publicity.
Exactly. I hadn't even gotten home and they were already
talking about the relaunch on on radio to hear so they're good at
it. But what's interesting about the website is I'm just gonna
bring it up for a second. You can choose your Commonwealth
Realm. So amongst the Commonwealth of us quite a bit,
a lot of islands like Canada they listed Yeah, Australia, New
Zealand, Canada, Jamaica, Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas,
Barbados, Grenada, Belize, St. Christopher and Nevis Saint
Lucia Italy's
they're an independent country. They still in the Commonwealth.
Yep. So used to be called a British Honduras.
St. Lucia, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu I had never heard of to
Alou St. Vincent and the Grenadines and Papua New Guinea
they got all that empire still out there
in it. Yeah, it was kind of in chunks but yeah, well Canada
nice chunk to have.
The Canada thing is bet befuddling.
But what was funny is because I brought this up while I was
there. Let me see the
for example, Canada's got any connection. How come when we did
the discharge of this war in Iraq? We the British came in
they contributed soldiers and the Canadians had now we're not
bringing sin in anybody. Why wouldn't they be obliged if they
were part of this thing? Or you know, corps it just some sort of
loose allies think
you're incorrect? I think you're incorrect. I think Canada has
sent troops certainly to Afghanistan. I think so. Is
anybody
to Iraq? No, not to Iraq. Well, it just seems to me that this is
a this Commonwealth isn't very is not what the British empire
once was, to say the least. Oh
no, because now this British Empire is just a financial
empire and working quite well actually it taking away all of
our physical assets so good Anya. Queenie,
good job to bring this up. By the way.
I wish I don't have the balls for that, man. So what did you
think she actually knows? You think she cares?
She probably knows enough to throw you out.
Right? There's not a good idea.
Maybe some hands are some very interesting signal that would be
involved that would be worth knowing. Thanks. She probably
she probably just like scratches or her left, jawbone, you know,
just a couple of times and boom, you're out. You'd be out on your
ass.
Oh, Tuvalu is, is the country where the.tv domain comes from.
I thought that was Tonga.
Well, I'm just reading what's in the chat, man.
I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe telling us to. But
I'm
looking on the site because I'm trying to find about the prince.
I'm sorry, the Duke. Duke of Edinburgh, Philip. Yeah, he's a
he's a DS, the Duke isn't he? I know. I don't keep up with that
crap. Because it was let me see if I can find because I was
reading is like, the Duke has no jobs. Basically what it says
here it is. Crap now. I'll have to look for it. But it was like,
he doesn't really have a day job, you know, day to day
agenda. He's involved in all kinds of stuff and does all
kinds of meetings. Like the guy doesn't do anything. Prince
Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh,
Ken Lakehurst.
All of them.
So
first, I'll get a kick out of that.
I mean, he doesn't listen to the show. Let's face it. Anyway, it
was
it was fun.
Fun. Good. Yeah.
And I'm sure I'm gay. But I'm now that I wasn't invited.
Especially now the blinks guy was you
think your IRQ How do you think my wife feels? She was She kept
saying just call the master of the house and just say I'm
bringing my wife. I don't think that's done. And it just says
this invitation is for you only and not transferable. But now
that I know next time I'll just print up one of those green
pieces of paper slap a name on it and a number and you're good
to go. I mean, it's it's not hard
for forging your way into an in reception, that's pretty funny.
You know that. crazy guys have showed up in the Queen's bedroom
several times. Yeah, yeah. Now I know why because it's it's easy.
They don't give a shit about security. I'm not kidding, John.
This was this really? Flying on easy jet has 10 times the
security than getting into Buckingham Palace. Well,
now you know. In the words of the year this podcast he made
you didn't have to walk through a metal detector. Oh no,
no, no. No metal detector? No frisk. No nothing. They didn't
even check my ID John. Yeah.
I guess I could have gone curry.
crackpot and buzzkill that would be funny, wouldn't it? But I
think we should. We should wherever we go. We just need to
have a little speaker system. So it's a and we're going in to
meet the Queen Hello, mom. So, man,
so what else is going on this week? Anything?
You think? Holy crap, the world is melting around us?
Well, apparently these this didn't Obama plan doesn't seem
to be plan. What plan? Well, that seems to be the problem.
Yes,
exactly. There is no, let me just say one thing. Yesterday, I
had a luncheon. And I that we have a mini cab company right
down the road. So this is it. They're licensed taxis but they
can't pick anyone up on the street. So the kind of shitty
cars but yeah, there's just regular Joe's driving people
around, essentially. So I walked down there and yeah, they got
radios, so they have communication, but it's kind of
low, low grade. And I'm like And I'm always asking these guys how
you doing? How's business you know, cuz I'm just obviously
interested as well. Besides it being slow, it's that I've got
all kinds of shit and I'm like, good, you know, I got 20 minutes
to kill. So Lay it on me brother. So what's happening now
is banks are withdrawing overdraft protection or
overdraft facilities. You know, and, and so this guy had, you
know, I'm sure that he at the end of the month, he probably
has to bridge Maybe four or 500 pounds, to get to them the next
paycheck or whatever. And that's what he used the overdraft
facility for, but they just yanked that which they've done
to millions of account holders. And of course, the minute that
happens, he's got all the standing order debits for his
insurance, and you've council tax all this stuff that has to
be paid on time every single month. And then that starts
bouncing out, and he can't get any, any overdraft facility. And
he just goes into this, this. I mean, he just the story goes on
and on. And on. The point, of course, is not this individual
guy. But this is what happens in the real world. While people
like John and I are sitting fat and happy watching C span with
unbelievable testimony and questioning of banksters. Which
I think I sat for a couple of maybe four hours yesterday
watching some of that. But in the real world, this is how
people get hurt. And this is the start and it's frightening me
for what's going to happen to people, because they're really
running into big, big trouble.
Well, it'll be interesting. They're not handling it very
well. Meanwhile, so I'm watching C span as
per your you got hooked, didn't you now you can't let it go.
Well, I've watched C span before it's not like I've never seen,
but these seem to be they seem to be more aggressive about what
they show. They're a Davos they're at these different kinds
of events they had they did show these hearings, like the ones I
blogged specifically with Horowitz a couple of these very
interesting. Yeah, the attorneys
for the SEC rounds. Yeah.
So they had this thing I guess you couldn't find it but it was
on C span two and it was SAR cozy addressing the Munich
Security Council security conference. And this was
a week ago, I believe, right. The security come? Yeah, I
guess. So. It was after
Davos. And it was in the end the topic was the future of European
security. And this actually was on C span last Saturday. I found
that the whole thing if you listen to Sarkozy, it was
Sarkozy and Merkel and this guy from Poland, the head of the
Polish guy that runs Poland, Donald Tusk. His name's Donald
Tusk.
Yeah, the guy who runs Poland. Yeah.
Donald Tusk is the Polish Prime Minister and I I'm thinking
Donald Tusk sounds like an American doesn't sound right.
And by the way, he seemed to be the most erudite of the three
and most
that Poland being interesting of course, because of the proposed
missiles that should that would be placed in Poland.
Yeah. So sorry, cosy. When all this was said and done, and I
have a lot of notes, I could bring a few up ones that are
some of the more interesting comments. Seems to me to be a
little Napoleon. Well,
literally a little Napoleon. You see that his wife Carla Bruni
has to wear flats when she's next to him. She can't wear high
heels.
Ladies by the time five full heat Yeah, he's like five five
Yeah. So he's going on and on about rearming Europe
which is exactly what everyone what everyone said what happened
if they they sign this damn Lisbon treaties, then we'd have
a European army. This is what the guy has been pushing for.
Yeah, no, this guy is pushing it big time. And then he's got it.
Let me just mention a couple of things here. He by the way,
there's this quote, I couldn't buy just got the kick out of he
said, Can any area in be it can any area in the world be rich
without a suit without a short defense? Wow. Wow. And I said,
which is like suicide he said that I first thing I said to
myself was Monaco. Good point, which is one of the richest
places in the world period without question and has no
defense and even during the you know, when Hitler was running,
they just did a deal. And you know, they keep keep to stay in
tax. That's bull. And then he goes on about the interest being
the same as that in the US. He made some very insulting
remarks. But you know, he says we share Obama's value. The
America we want hazard these values. The America we want.
This defining moment, change has come through America. A
government of the people, by the people and for the people has
not perish from the earth. This is your mystery. We are and
always will be the United States of America.
I know you love that. Sorry. By the way Biden was in the
audience.
Yes, he also did a speech I did find his speech but I never saw
this or cosy Oh
that's interesting because I'll try to give you the punchline of
this whole thing okay. Anyway says by April of this year we're
going to bring together this great family and he talks about
you know obviously the European Union trying to pass that treaty
and meanwhile in somewhere that he kind of sneaks into thing
about the A bombs about you know the fact that they have all man
Great Britain has him and he thinks you know, even though
they want his big giant European army he thinks the a bomb should
be kept you know, just within within France what all of them
share the a bomb so want to give Poland the a bomb that was kind
of interesting now, it gets kind of weird as he goes on, because
he's talking about you know, they talk about nuclear energy,
the French do everything right, you know, a lot of French stuff,
but he talks about the fact that they're apparently sharing
soldiers and he makes this comment, quote, France will be
happy to have soldiers in Germany and and welcome German
soldiers in France. Wow. So I'm thinking why what different What
Why are you why are there French soldiers in Germany and German
soldiers in France in the first place this
have to do maybe with kind of along the lines of we're not
into protectionism, except when it comes to protecting
ourselves?
Not sure. I found that the whole thing about the soldiers being
shared, you know, well,
that's that's the precursor to a European army, I guess. I think
that must be because they're already doing that with with
police force, I believe that some police forces are being
sent back and forth to different countries to quote learn. I'm
sure that just setting it up, you know, a European police
force, European army. Makes sense.
So, yeah, there's something going on. And if the fact is
that we're all we had here, we didn't have anybody. We didn't
have anybody else. But I mean, there was Merkel and there was
Sarkozy and Merkel came in she didn't get to see her speech by
heard her questions and answers, and I've concluded she's an
idiot. And she's bitching about the chicken issue in some of
these other little she has a bunch of petty complaints
no one cares about except for chicken farmers.
Yeah, and it sercotel said, the public opinion of war is always
bad. So we should pay no attention to it, guys,
unbelievable. And he says, indicated he's also kisses a guy
made a note he kisses the some green party guy came a mess, no
questions, and he just kissed the guy's ass was ridiculous and
went on and on about to number one in the world with new
nuclear energy. 23% renewable blah, blah, blah, who cares? RMS
defense is the priority security Franch our people just a few
random comments. This I didn't get to look up I want to do it
before we did the show. But I gotta look it up. We help singer
plus kept being two things were brought up by Sarkozy and
Merkel. One of them is something about we don't want another we
don't want Helsing or plus or Helsing or two. What is hell
singer died? Oh, no, I'm gonna have to say remissed by not
having looked it up. We'll have an onset on Sunday show. And
then they talked about your EU EU plus NATO plus. And I think
what it refers to some of these treaties and bringing out the
guys that you're treating against you like NATO plus might
be NATO with Russia, which makes no sense. And they started doing
a little inside baseball stuff. They talked about getting
Russian support for the EU. And then they mentioned the Iranian
satellite, he was like concerned about this. And anyway, so the
thing went on, and on and on, I'd have a lot more notes. But
at the end, they they said next next on C span will Joe Biden
will make his speech in five minutes and they broke up the
they broke up at the end with I was just under the impression
that these people were like Hitlerian because they were
shaking their fists and doing weird stuff. So they so they say
Biden, well. What's Biden gonna say? So sis man kills Biden,
they they don't have him. He never shows Oh, interesting.
And, and instead he's bumped for a bump for now. So you spend
we'll give you the the hearings for the Deputy Attorney General
nomination, David Ogden. Like who? So I'm thinking why are
they bumping Biden for the Deputy Attorney General
nomination debate, which was really boring, but unbelievable.
But I have to say Sarkozy really does have a little Napoleon
thing going. And all the talk is about the you know, rearming. It
was all about rearming and why it's so important. And
everything was thematically around rearming, but but
rearming Europe. And I think the fear is that because you know,
the Germans and the French are always and by the way, if you
look at the fractal of history, the French are as much
troublemakers over time as the Germans have ever
actually. So let me say something about that because
indeed the culture and if you've lived in Europe, you know that
This almost from childhood, first of all the Germans and the
French have always been at each other's throats, or you know,
one way or the other politically or at war, et cetera. But the
French, they really believe they rule the universe. And this is
I'm generalizing, obviously. But sir cozy is a prime example of a
French guy who considers the Netherlands to be the northern
stop on the train route. You know, that's literally how they
talk about it. Oh, Holland, you mean that you mean the northern
stop on our on our train line. That's how they feel about it.
Belgium, the Netherlands all there's there, they're
incredible that way.
And well, so they get into these beef, so so they must have
actually, they must actually be strategizing how to get it
European Union is there's two things that have to happen. One,
you have to have the Germans and the French together on the deal,
this will this will never occur, but they're trying their best.
And that's why I think they have this soldier, you know, this is
what is it called when you bring your kid that foreign exchange
students. So we'll put the French soldiers in Germany, and
we'll put the German soldiers in France, and it to maybe to get
so people get
let's get them all. Yeah, let's give them all new uniforms. But
with a little tag that shows what country they're from.
That's what it's gonna be you want yeah,
you wouldn't be surprised. And but the problem is, is that the
Germans are still Germans. And the French are still French, no
matter what you do about it. And it's gonna annoy the locals.
Because there's something that's grating to a Frenchman about a
German and just like the Brits, I mean, the British really
disliked the French,
they should, but they love to go there on holiday.
They love France. They just don't like the French. And they
bitch and moan. I mean, I don't think Americans generally
speaking know how mean spirited The British are regarding the
French. In
general, I would say the British can be pretty mean spirited.
It's not just yet but I
know. That's true. But I'm saying the French thing is
really young. You can bring it up at a dinner or anything. It's
just they just, they just hate him. Yeah, you know, and that's
it goes back to God knows when. But so this is shaking out to be
something quite interesting if they keep going in this
direction.
Well, we have another we have a major flap going on today as we
speak in the United Kingdom. This is the politician here two
builders, we've talked about him before on the show, who made the
15 minute movie fitna, which you can find on I don't know if it's
on YouTube anymore. Certainly on lively fit a fit and a fitna,
which is the it's essentially it's a it's a collage of
headlines and then translations from the Quran and kind of
basically saying, radical Islam is really bad. And it's here
that that is how I'd paraphrase this poorly put the I didn't
think it was a very good movie, it was kind of like one of those
conspiracy theory clips, YouTube documentaries, you know what I
mean? Like kind of weird stuff put together, crudely so first
of all, and but it certainly is not like, I wouldn't call it
hate. It's just, you know, it's facts put together. Now you can
call that hate if you want. And some of it, I'm sure it's out of
context, and whatever. So first of all, he's being prosecuted in
the Netherlands for hate crime, a minister of Parliament, no
less. But he was scheduled to show this movie in the House of
Commons today upon invitation. And the home office has denied
him entry into the country. I'm sorry, what? The home office in
the United Kingdom has denied him access to the country. So
this this story broke yesterday. Because he, of course, received
a letter from the home office. And it said, Please don't come,
we're not going to let you in. And so he said, Look, I've got a
return ticket, and he got on the plane this morning. And the last
I heard is he had landed but customs would not let him. And
so now of course, the big debate is, you know, Is there freedom
of speech in Britain like, Duh, no kidding.
Wait a minute. I thought they were dealing with the EU where
you don't have this kind of control from one EU country to
another you can't stop people from going here and there. Oh,
yeah. Oh, when did that happen?
Today as of today, of course, but duh. This is why keep
telling Patricia. I said Honey, you know, don't you get it? It's
only free when they feel it's free. What they don't want it to
be free and simple that way.
So what you're saying is that the cheese that's unbelievable.
I mean, this doesn't make any sense. Then you have
ministers of Parliament. Muslim ministers. I don't
even remember being checked when you go from Well, if you're Yes,
you Oh yeah, you definitely go. That's what you do walk through
passport control at some,
even even even though most countries in Europe have no
passport control. So if I go to Spain, and if I go to it depends
on which airport in France, there's no passport control at
all you get off the plane, it's it you know it lands at the
European terminal you walk right through. If you landed at
Gatwick or Heathrow, you have to go through the EU passport
control and it's not like a big deal. They look at your passport
and okay, you're an EU citizen. Come on, they don't really ask
you questions. I of course have to go through a different line.
Because I don't have an EU passport. And even though I do
have a visa, they they do ask questions. And the question is
always, because the reason I'm allowed to live and work here is
because I'm married to an EU national. And they always say,
What nationality is your wife? I said she's Dutch. And where is
she? And I always my standard answered is why hope she's home
because I'm really hungry. Which they don't find that don't find
that very amusing. But you keep doing it. Yeah, of course, of
course. And by the way, I've met the Queen fucky. Let me through
Goddamnit here. Here's here's, here's the here's my name tag
from when I've met the Queen. Okay, I've got proof. Yeah,
yeah. So this is a big deal. And what's what's interesting is on
the radio here they have I don't know how many Muslim ministers
of Parliament there are. But there's one guy who's who's been
on most of the talk shows and say, hey, look, that guy has his
his freedom of speech. And here's my freedom of speech.
You're not allowed in. That's not freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech. That's hilarious.
But the funny thing is that like, no one not a single person
even takes the effort to go look at the fucking movie. It's all
online. And they're all talking about it like, Oh, it's this
hate crimes? Like, go look at it before you talk about it. And of
course, they don't show any of it anywhere. And the whole point
might say it's a crime but not a hate crime to the whole.
The whole turn on your speaker. Man, you're you're really
blowing me out there. The whole reason he's not allowed in is
because the government is worried that it will start
riots. Oh, if it didn't start riots anywhere else.
Yeah, but yeah, we got those Pakistani nut cases that they
have.
There you go. That's john@devora.org. For all you
Pakistani nutcases, that's where you can find him.
There's a really good piece that was written, I'm gonna have to
go dig it up that was written about how the Pakistanis were
the ones that were the expats that moved to England, they were
all influenced by a clerics that were fairly liberal and modern.
And then sometime in the, I think it was in the 70s or 80s,
that they stay switched, based on what happened, which was
going on in Pakistan, which is a movement toward conservative
Claire clerics to a bunch of harvests in Pakistan, and those
guys then took over kind of pushed the Pakistani agenda. And
then of course, they had their experiment called the Taliban.
And they had exported their philosophies to England, some
over a decade ago. And it's been kind of taking the it's been
pushed, everybody's been kind of pushing in that direction. And,
you know, these things are all reversible. But not everybody
just lets you know, doesn't pay any attention to it.
That's always the danger.
Did you know we can't say anything because it will might
offend someone?
Well, this is the I heard I heard on CNBC even someone
mentioned that they and I know they always talk about this, but
the talk about the fairness doctrine, really seems to be the
chatter is getting louder, John.
You know, the thing is, yeah, it is but you know, that you always
have to remember that the Fairness Doctrine was instituted
by the Republicans because the Democrats, when when, when push
comes to shove, they are the ones who tend to be, you know,
more promotional about their political agenda than the
Republicans ever have been. And essentially, what's happened
though, is you have a lightning rod for the Fairness Doctrine,
namely Rush Limbaugh, who they just don't like, because he's a
very Rush Limbaugh is for one thing, he's been doing it for so
long and he's so entertaining and he's got he's got the right
audience and a huge, huge is 14 million or something and he gets
a call and he and he gets quoted and again, he's you know, he is
so I don't think he's influential I think he but he
does pound a specific drum. And the drum is not even pro
Republican. It's just anti Democrat. And I think they just
got on they they've got limbaugh's got on everybody's
nerves. But the fact of the matter is, you know, most of the
editorials and, and you know, YouTube if you take, you know,
Rachel Maddow, who was on MSNBC, and what's his name? The
baguette, the big head. Yeah. Keith Olbermann, Keith
Olbermann. I mean, those guys and then everybody else that's
attempting and by the way, the woman this was interesting. The
woman who was pushing the the domain woman that's pushing the
Fairness Doctrine thing, her husband happens to be one of the
founders of one of the liberal radio talk shows that failed,
fit what is Air America, whatever.
Well, he was one of the shows on Air America, and I think he had
dinner was another somebody else tried to
bring, it was totally boring. The fact
of the matter is, we've always had a left wing channel in this
across the country called Pacifica radio. We have a local
version of it here in Berkeley, Pacifica radio plays the most,
they're not even left wing, it's borderline communist. And they
just basically, you know, hate Republicans and pound the drum
for all the progressive ideas, and they have poets on, and
people who talk like this. And well, I think, you know, the
indigenous people and they're the ones who che tried to change
the name of all the holidays, and they're essentially anti
American, they would be probably as they would be susceptible to
this. Because if this thing ever went through, everyone would be
attacking all the left wing anything. And the other thing is
you can do as you could pull a Hannity and Colmes where you can
have a I've always felt you know, if you ever get if you're
anybody wants to get involved in politics, one of the things you
want to do is you want to produce debates for TV. And the
way you produce debates for TV and you have a debate about
topic a and you get a very and your for it, but you're
producing has got to be objective because it's going to
be a debate so what you do is you find the absolute best
spokesperson for topic a in the world knows everything. And then
you find somebody against topic a who happens to be clinically
insane. And you put them on the air. And you had there's your
balance you got your debate, topic a gets debated by a person
who's bright, very normal and some maniac
remember Morton Downey Jr. Yeah, of course, I wasn't he great.
So the display so I mean, you can I mean, the Fairness
Doctrine is kind of meaningless in the modern era and they just
put it all you know it's just rush limbaugh they're just
trying to get him off the air. I don't care what about anything
else and but it won't work because rush limbaugh was really
can can neutralize his vigor take
out the government, his audience if they marched on Washington
would be all over.
You know, but he can also he doesn't have to be you know, you
can also do this you have a sidekick that's all you need to
do. Rush Limbaugh and sidekick right and the sidekick rush. I
can't believe you said that. Surely you know that President
Obama is actually quite nice.
This is no no agenda with Adam curry and John C. Dvorak. We're
gonna get together to pronounce my name a little better where I
live, so so you get a side kick and make sure that the guys
clinically insane right. And I mean, that's why Hannity and
Cohen was was kind of like was a balance show, you know, combs
was useless. It's kind of funny to watch. And he's not as good
by himself. That's the weird thing.
Yeah. Well, it's kind of like you and me, darling.
So, anyway, so I don't know I still think when push comes to
shove, the Fairness Doctrine is not going to pass and it also
may be a red herring to get all these right wingers all you
know, get their panties in a bunch.
I mean, go ahead. I
was gonna say Michael Savage literally goes ballistic when it
comes up.
Yeah. Sometimes it goes a little overboard, though sometimes.
Sometimes this was a CNN reported
something interesting yesterday, which I saw on, maybe
understandably, maybe, maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
Interpol issued a rare global security alert for 85 suspected
al Qaeda linked terrorists wanted by Saudi Arabia. Never
before has Interpol been asked to alert the world about so many
dangerous fugitives at one time, according to the press release.
What do you think?
I know some weird stuffs going on. I think those fires in
Australia are suspicious. I think those may be al Qaeda.
Well, the police actually said that there was they were they
were angry. Have it here somewhere. Australian anger
turns as police admit, one of the deadliest bushfires was not
arson after all. So that that sounds even weirder.
Yeah, because there were new fires cropping out all the throw
them away slice. Yeah, you know, just out of the blue and they
had all these guys in their sights you know supposedly,
maybe it's maybe the information whatever what is really going on
as being suppressed for some reason?
Yeah just like everything else that comes through the internet
there.
Right yeah Australia's Got it please stay when it comes to
information. I you know, the thing we I somebody sent me a
note, you know, because we were joking about the the heat in
Australia, but I wasn't realizing that those do
ridiculous fires that they were having. I mean, it's, it's like,
well, my wife pointed out it's like, go ahead. It's like
everything on fire from cat from San Francisco to Seattle. Yeah.
We mentioned it on on the on the previous show. And that's when
you kind of with your haha, Arizona is hot too. Don't you
feel stupid now?
Yeah, no. Well, I've always felt stupid. So that's beside the
point. But But these fires being just as soon as I started
reading about it, of course, I've I've got the Australian
Slingbox working.
I can't I can't seem to get it working. Did you get any local
coverage? Could you see some good?
Oh, yeah. The guy was sent it to us. We want to thank him. You
have his name. He's he actually works for Channel Nine. Maybe we
shouldn't give his name out. And in Australia, and he says, you
know, he was talking about more fires being lit. And but no
offense to him. I thought the channel 10 coverage was a little
better, at least, came in better. And it was yeah, there's
a bit ridiculous. And it's got to be as suspicious. I think the
whole thing is sketchy. Maybe they don't want to panic, the
public bias, you know, by telling you that, you know,
people are these terrorists lighten up the place?
Well, as Rahm Emanuel said, Never let a good crisis go to
waste.
I suppose there's probably a vigilante attitude in Australia
that has to be dealt with, you know, if you start saying, well,
there's a bunch of you know, if you say there's a bunch of Arab
terrorists, everyone grinding fires all over the place, they
would probably find any Arab in any bar and kill him. Yeah,
you're right.
So who knows?
I'm sure that will develop developing stories. Anything
else?
Well, you took notes that yeah, I have tons of stuff. But you
took notes after our last? Oh, yeah. Here's, here's a couple of
things. Because I also wrote down a couple of notes. There's
more, there's this whole Smart Grid thing, which we've kind of
latched on to there's more and more coming out about that. And
you'll Google's in those tied into it. Yeah, you by the way.
Eric Schmidt who I guess he doesn't work at Google anymore.
He is now on David Cameron's economic team, Cameron being the
opposition. In the in the UK Government for the
conservatives. And the NDP was like this big article I've got
to Eric Schmidt on my economic team, for the guys on this team
is on Obama's team. Does it do anything at Google anymore? Or
is he just outside in the world he ever
do anything?
Besides Bing? Bada bing, good point. So yeah, so Google is in
on the Smart Grid thing. And, you know, this, this ties into a
number of things. First is the fact that they're now talking
about the so the smart grid idea is that the the grid that
supplies, amongst other things, electricity, but I think the
grid will contain broadband and all kinds of stuff, that it will
determine when it's good for your washing machine to be on.
So oh, well, you can't wash right now we're gonna make that
happen at 2am, or something of the like, and Google has to have
some kind of API or something, they're announced, they've
announced
that they didn't catch that. But that, you know, to me, the,
there's always been I always tried to explain to myself from
day one, I mean, when I first heard about this technology over
20 years ago, which is power grid, connectivity to the
internet. So you know, you can get your internet connection
just through the plug in the wall. And the only exponent and
you know, and it was it never worked. It's starting to work
now and they actually have technologies that can give you
almost a gigabit if you know if you evolve things or you know if
your house is actually wired correct.
And you can buy these little boxes to, to connect. If you
don't have an Ethernet port on somewhere, you can run it
through the, through your houses, your home's wiring.
Yeah. And it works.
Yeah, well, it works in houses that are properly wired. Yeah.
Which is only about probably half the houses in the country.
But the idea is that why should we why why even do this because
there's other technologies that are better, they're faster they
you know, they're not as screwy but it's obvious that they
wanted to have access to your power a, because if you have an
IP washing machine, you know, you can put ads on the display.
Say Yeah, hey, by the way, there's a sale over here at
Safeway for some tight laundry detergent, you want to check it
out, push this button, and we will send a coupon to your
printer.
You think you don't really think that's the applications? They
haven't already? Absolutely. That's the application. That's
why do total control is the application job application is
advertising that you push the button and then it says, Does
this your printer and then boom, you hit it and come back. Your
printers printed out a coupon? So you get a deal on tight?
I have to disagree with you, man. This that's yes, of course.
That will be the application we're shown. But it's really
about tracking everything you do and having total information
field on on your entire life. Come on. That's because the we
can run your life better. That's what I'm seeing.
Yeah, that's what you'd be seeing. Oh, okay. I think
there's an element of that. But I think that's just too hard to
execute. Well, I don't like the idea of man. Yeah. And it has to
be resisted. Obviously. Any anything that could go in that
direction, though. The Gosh, I'm scared to death, Adam curry
direction. Anything that goes into that direction should be
stopped. Yes. Thank you. So I'm gonna stick with that. Now. The
fact is, Google sees it as an ad revenue stream, because that's
how they make their money right there. I mean, I don't think
that they are yet. You know, wanting to control our lives.
I'm sure they might like,
you know what, they've got all the bits. That's that's the
important thing. Because that yeah, they're
plugged in shows we sell to Google to some agency. Bingo.
Yeah, that latitude thing. It's like, it's very easy to quit
your Google Maps on your phone. And it's still to be sharing
your location. It's it asked, yeah, do you want to still share
your location? There's yes or no, I've hit. I've hit it
incorrectly a couple times. It's a little freaky.
Yeah, no, I don't like the I don't like latitude at all, no
effect. This is I think it's going to the thing is, luckily,
in the United States, we're so litigious, that one, just one
person's one female gets stalked, because the latitude
and effect that she pushed the wrong button, and then is raped
and murdered. That's the end of that technology now, and a fat
lawsuit.
Well, let me then take take you into the next topic, which I
think is pretty important. I'd love to hear your take on. So
people have been pulling apart the stimulus bill, both the
house the Senate, and from what I understand the compromised
version contains some very interesting healthcare
initiatives, which is obviously come from Tom Dashiell. And let
me just read these to you. The bills health rules will affect
this from Bloomberg will affect every individual in the United
States, your medical treatments will be tracked electronically
by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at
your fingertips easily transferred to a hospital is
beneficial. It is good. It will help avoid duplicate tests and
errors. But here comes the National Coordinator of health
information technology, we'll monitor treatments to make sure
your doctor is doing what the federal government deems
appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce cost and
guide your doctor's decisions. These provisions in the stimulus
bill are virtually identical to what Dashiell prescribed in his
2008 book. So hospitals and doctors will be meaningful users
of the new system. And if they're not meaningful users,
they will face penalties. And of course, meaningful user is not
defined in the bill. So it might understand that the stimulus
package that passes will basically allow the government
into our medical shit, and guide our doctor as to what treatment
we should receive.
Well, a couple things, first of all, insurance companies do that
already. So I don't know that this is going to be that much
different than that. Secondly, it is important that we have
some sort of a secure medical information system because the
number of people it's in the hundreds of 1000s who die from
the fact that, you know, they're given one treatment for by one
doctor, and they because he didn't know that there's another
treatment from another doctor that is going to kill him. You
know, if you combine the two treatments, I mean, the numbers
is ridiculously high. Because you know, these, these medical
records are all hand done. And they're, you know, you can't
read them and you and the other thing is people don't realize
the United States in particular that the public met you as a as
an individual on your medical records. The doctors do not.
Okay, yeah, I agree. And so you should probably, you know, if
you ever change doctors, you should ask for your medical
records, and put them in a file and take them to another doctor
or just do whatever you want with them. But there's not
there's not property of the doctor. And that's real little
understood and then people seem to assume it is
But then shouldn't have the right to decide who can see it
and who can do something with it
at the moment, yes, you could probably do that. You could
probably get all your medical records, gather them up, and
then just tell people that, you know, you don't have to look
him. I don't understand why people don't generally do this.
And it's, I think has been drummed into him that you can't.
And I think there's probably a lot of doctors that don't even
know the facts. But the fact is that the medical record is your
property, nobody else's.
Well, they want access to it through the smart grid, that's
for sure.
Well, they want a lot of stuff. It is bothered irksome that you
know, the government would have a oversight on on treatment.
Yeah, what's the point? Once you just want you to go into a
computer and type in what your symptoms aren't gonna get up?
You have to grade down, you know, government doctor in the
sky tell you what to do. Yeah. We're talking about how eight
states have declared sovereignty.
Yeah. This is their invoking the 10th Amendment, I believe. And
it's a 10. What do you read laughing about don't laugh at
the Constitution.
funny about it.
They're invoking the 10th amendment.
I don't know understand why California doesn't do that and
split into three.
Well, this has been predicted by many economists already that the
United States could possibly split up. And the main thing
that's happening and this already I think this some of the
states like, I think in Texas, it dates back to the Patriot
Act. Or maybe Patriot two, or God knows what, where certain
states said, hey, you know what, we're invoking the 10th
Amendment, which means you just can't overrule and do shit here.
You have this, you have to stay over there and your federal
land, and you have no right over us and you can't enforce, you
know, all these terrorism related security measures.
We're gonna have to look into this and discuss it further. And
then no, this this week, did we talk about the census?
Oh, that's right. That's right. No, we didn't talk about that.
This was indeed news. Over the weekend, that now the census is
important that this is taken every what? 10 years the census?
Yeah, it's important because it is used, and I'm not quite sure
what the process is. It is used to draw up congressional
districts. And I believe by it may even be in the Constitution
somewhere, that the Census has to be a part of the Commerce
Department. And essentially, it has now been taken away. And the
White House is now handling the census. In other words, Rahm
Emanuel, who was running the White House, and there's it's
underreported, as usual. But I believe that politically, that's
a very, very powerful weapon.
Well, yeah, because it seems as though they you know, the threat
is that they're going to get a hold of the census, and then
they're going to have control of the data, and then they're going
to redistrict, the entire United States Chicago style.
So So explain that?
Well, you know, there's a lot of that you see this gerrymandering
kind of thing that takes place all over the place, if you get
enough people to California does it constantly, right? You get
enough people that do you take over the government, you got
Democrat, Governor, Democrat, everything. And so then they
start looking at the census data, and then they start
redistricting to protect their districts. In other words, you
load up with, you know, if you're a Democrat, and you have
a district that has like, you know, 50% Democrats and 50% of
Republicans in the district next door has, you know, 20%
Democrats and 80%. Republicans, you want to protect yourself, so
you cut out 20% of your Republicans and give them to the
Republican thing because you can't get away with them. Just
leave them alone. They'll have a Republican, you know, and then
you're going to suck their 20 Democrats over and you end up
with, like, 70%, Democrat kind of thing. You just keep
jiggering around. And that's why you see these districts and
callate we have one around here that is, is doesn't make any
sense at all. It's got a piece of San Jose, and then a little,
like two square miles up north somewhere. There's nowhere
anywhere near the you know, they're not contiguous. Right?
There's like chunks of things. And that's the district it's not
based on geography. It's based on demography.
Yeah, it's bay or Yeah, or worse. And so anyway, so they
have the demographic verse version of the and so that
doesn't make any sense. Because if I'm in this area, where I'm
going to have, you know, we're, we're there. Things that I need
about my streets and my roads and my bridges. Why is somebody
that's out You know, 100 miles away and some little hokey
little town have any influence on, you know what happens to me
I mean that the idea is, you know, you're supposed to be
representative of these little geographic groups because people
tend to, you know, huddled together in like one town for
example. Why would one time Detroit will have you know,
that's places like Detroit in Chicago, where you have these,
you know, ethnic groups, you'll put them all in a certain area
or the other way you can jiggle it around as you jiggle around.
So So you have you'd have a Republican and a Democrat areas
that are one is really solidly Republican, and the other one is
solidly Democrat. So you jigger it around. So it's like one
point, you take the Republican area, and yes, you push a bunch
of Democrats into that with 1% over, and then you take the
other one, and you leave it. So the Democrats take over both
areas, even though there's like 49%. Republicans in both, they
can't win anything. I mean, there's all these little things
you can do to screw over the electorate, which is what is
doing, by the way,
so this is not good. No, you know, the I read a fantastic,
fantastic conspiracy theory. Which did you have a really,
really, really good one. Let me just see. What one I thought I'd
have to share with you. It was it was about the the double
swearing in?
Oh, yes. The one that where I believe there's the two Obamas.
Right.
So the the theory goes, you know, who was there was
continuity of government was planned for an inauguration day.
And you know, that if anything had happened to Obama, who would
be president?
It wasn't going to be Biden. Nope. Robert
Gates.
Does that work?
Well, I'm just saying, so that it was announced. And I remember
seeing the announcement and thinking, whatever. So the
theory is that Justice Roberts deliberately flubbed the line.
So Obama would flub the line, meaning he wasn't inaugurated,
meaning that Robert Gates for 36 hours was actually the Commander
in Chief of the United States, and he then purged, that's the
word that's being used all of the military commanders who are
still from kind of the the Clinton camp and the bush camp
and they wanted to get everyone out, who wasn't along with the
program. And then he got sworn in again properly. It's just a
theory, but I thought it was interesting to well, who was
purged Do we have any names? Somebody gets fired, we would
know about it, it would be in the public record.
Well, you know, there's a couple I think it's commanders on the
battlefield I don't think I don't think it's a desk job
guys.
Well, that might be but it's still I mean, it's not as though
we don't know well I don't know I don't know it was there a list
you read this thing it just Vega they I mean there's just a vague
assertion there's no
there's a you know, there's a lot of links to different
articles I'll send that to you can take a look at it. It's like
a real rabbit hole man. You may not want to go down there.
I'll check it out. But there is something still sketchy about
the possibility they when he because the second one the thing
that was weird about the second swearing in, was that it was
private.
Yeah, no cameras allowed. Yeah, they have some laughs to that
you gotta you gotta see this whole order no
recordings it's I think
there wasn't there wasn't audio recording there wasn't audio
recording.
Oh, there was no it doesn't matter we know that we do we
know that for a fact that the auto recording actually was
selected. No, we don't we because we don't have we don't
have a lip sync of it now. We don't just saying because it's
possible that dead Obama or the set either still not sure
Alzheimer's? Or you're still not the President? Well, that's
probably going to be true anyway. So see the second Obama
or they swore him in to some world government office. Right,
right.
John D, sometimes you come out of left field my jaw just drops
man. It's love. It's a lovely thing. I got I got something.
Just a little add on that we should take into consideration.
I think I was listening to the Horowitz and divorce financial
show which is pretty much a repeat of all the good shit on
no agenda. And that's, that's okay. You had some sound clips.
I was jealous of that. We were talking about Markopoulos This
is the whistleblower who blew open the Madoff scheme and you
know thinking about how you know first of all my belief now that
this whole thing is rigged and the whole thing is one big Ponzi
scheme and it's all a bunch of bullshit and the bonuses are
actually the way these guys get the money out of all this crap
that they make up. But Markopoulos Do you know what he
you know any anything about his history? So because you guys
were talking about it that he worked for a firm earned a
client asked him to do some due diligence and then it led him
into some really simple clues that made off was running a
Ponzi scheme. Right.
Okay. And you heard that and you and I doubt it. No decided to do
some research and you found out. Yes,
well, I had already found this out. But now because I was just
thinking, you know, maybe he's making a big deal about this.
And then you know, throwing a couple other bones out there to
for everyone to be looking the other way and not really seeing
the big the big mountain in front of us that we're about to
crash into. He led a 46 man special ops team overseas.
Special Ops is no joke, John.
Doing what well,
it's special ops. So of course it's not specified. But
specializes for is like delta for stuff for the US.
Yeah, no, no, especially for the army. This is like, is it a
jagged like the jackals of jackals have the economic
hitman. Yeah.
So and he
that's all I know. That's all I know. That's all you know, but
it was for the for the US armed forces. Because you know, you
look around you you're not going to find any details. I've tried
that he led a 46 man special ops team like, well, that's
interesting career change.
But what makes it even more interesting is the fact that
well, he might be a spy. My point exactly, no, he's a front
for the CIA. And they decided they were sick of this Madoff
thing. And this Jesse see was a bunch of bone has it, we're
gonna do anything ever. And Bran may be in on the deal. And
somebody had to blow the whistle. So they said, Who can
we get? Well, this guy and they pushed him out in front and
said, look, make the biggest stink, you can. So we can get
you know, make some changes here.
And we got some changes, Thompson fell on her sword. And
she quit. So now, you know, the time that she was the worst?
Well, and so you know, the whole thing stinks. Because she wants
she's bailing. She just jumped out and it's happening
everywhere. Finance Minister in Germany bailed out, pulled the
parachute. Just today. There was a shake up in the British
financial ministry. I should read the story. But people are
bailing out all over the place. They don't want any part of it.
Yeah, why be bailing out too? I mean, this is not going to get
any better for these people. So why should they stick around?
Sure. Hopefully they you know, I'm sure they have these golden
parachutes buried here in their guy. I mean, this. Madoff is
like this. Turns out his wife took out 15 million bucks a
couple of days before he turned himself in.
And he's still he's still
out walk in about.
Yeah. And his accountant is never, you know, it hasn't even
been arrested from what I can tell.
And they showed some some poor guy in Australia in Florida,
who, who was running a $300 million Ponzi scheme, which of
course is tiddlywinks, and they've got him handcuffed. You
know, they're roughing him up they're throwing him in the back
of a cop car. So get on CNBC. And it's local local affiliate
coverage right so don't even look it looks a little bit like
cops. I swear to god man. And the guy's got his handcuffed
behind his back. And you know his hairs all toughen tussled
and I'm like, God, this guy No another mini made off and it's
it's like they were focusing on all the wrong things like like
the hearing with the bankers yesterday. Were like, raise your
hand if you have a private jet. I'm God Almighty. What have we
lowered ourselves to? This is so stupid.
Raise your hand ladies got him pray, guys. Like yeah, of
course, we
got a private jet. You know,
what do you expect? But I gotta make it a million dollars a year
for the last decade plus the hundreds of millions and
bonuses. Of course, I am who wouldn't have a private jet?
Yeah. But it'd be like, if you didn't have a private jet, you'd
have to be an idiot.
It's so frustrating John, because the public is only being
focused on these minut details that have nothing to do with the
big picture and the public doesn't even understand. Let me
just say it for once and for all. When you talk about
bankers, people, there are a couple of different kinds of
bankers, and we're looking at the wrong ones. You have retail
bankers, and banking institutions that take deposits.
Then you have the bankers that create bullshit money out of
nothing. These are the guys that are on display, who have private
jets and take out billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of
dollars in bonus mean bonuses annually. And then you have the
central bankers, and I've mentioned them in that order,
because you need to be looking at the central bankers. These
are the evil people. They're the ones that inflate the money
supply. They're the ones that raise and lower interest rates
for their own profit. They're the ones you need To focus on
Ben Bernanke Mervyn King, who's the guy from the European
Central Bank tree che, these are the guys and the people behind
them who actually own the central banks. They are the
culprits. Because Britain is doing the same. It's like it's
so coordinated, John, they're rolling out these bankers, the
bankers all do a little Mia culpa little dance, yeah, boom,
I'll pay you back. And everyone's you know, again,
everyone gets to yell at them, but they're not the problem.
They're just, you know, profiting in the middle.
And of rant
was a good one, not a typical.
So I can just run the tape every single time. Is that what you're
saying? I like you should say, Thanks, John. I'm glad we're
doing this show two times a week now with that attitude, and God
damn, yeah.
So okay, so here's So, back to that concept. So I've been
asking around and Horowitz and I discussed this. And I had,
nobody's actually denied the possibility of your theory being
parsed part of the problem. Your theory being that at the federal
state,
the Federal Reserve started offering interest on deposits
and excess deposits, not just reserved deposits as of October
6,
right, which is when the market began, slide is actually tanked.
And that's because what, and the thinking would be that the banks
that have the ability that they're connected to the Federal
Reserve would just as soon give them all the money that they
have just to collect whatever interest they can get, rather
than put it in this crazy market, which is, you know,
which is unstable, and you could still lose more money by being
in it. So why loan out a nickel to the public or anybody else,
or a business or a letter of credit or anything else? When
you have easy money, guarantee free
guaranteed money? 75 basis points? Actually, I got the
spreadsheet, it went up. They were doing 1% at one and one
point. So 125 basis points at one moment, that's a lot.
It is for that kind of move for this huge amount of money. Yeah,
I mean, it's ridiculous. And so if that's the case, you're never
gonna get credit back until this against but if the thing is
designed to to rig the system, which we're going to have to
assume since we you know, follow the oil scam. And then we watch
the all this crazy stuff going on with guys like Matt often
other words is there's too much basic corruption. If the idea is
to rig the system, in other words, tank the economy economy
artificially, yes, yes, shake everything down. And the banks,
meanwhile, end up look, here's what you guys have, you know,
you could say, You banks now hold all these properties that
are just, you know, in the toilet,
90 million homes in the US
19 million homes we're going to keep, they all of a sudden say
okay, the interest rate deal is off, we're not going to offer
any more free money, you got to put your money back in
circulation, which you're going to have to do because they can't
just sit on it. And let the things start cranking back up
again, should go up as fast as it went down, which would be
which is what happened with oil, by the way, went down as fast as
it went up. So it'd be a quick turnaround. Meanwhile, to
sweeten the pie, you guys have got 19 million homes that you
can put on the market as the market recovers, and just
ratchet it right up to whatever get us back to where we were or
close. And well, there's
there's a kink in your theory there because the Fed has done
something interesting this week. And you'll have to help me
through it. They have now started buying treasuries and
like billions and billions of dollars worth of treasuries. And
isn't this the first I think it's the first time ever the Fed
has done this?
Well, let me think what would be the reason to do that? I'm sure
somebody out there can come up with some one of our crazy
listeners probably. I think it's either in some way to screw
China. This would be my just have a laundry list of things.
Yeah, no, screw China is high on the list. Because remember,
these are all just gangs fighting against each other.
So it's either the screw China, or to position yourself into a
spot where where you can actually profit from treasuries
going up in value, which would happen if you crank the economy
back up by pulling the plug on this free money, get the economy
back on track, crank it up. So you have this two year by the
way, which is what happened at 90, you have this two year boom,
which then brings all these properties of these real estate
properties back into the market. Everything starts going up. It's
heats up the economy, you have to increase interest rates, as
because right now they're down to zero they actually buried it
so it's almost nothing if it's not nothing. Treasuries, then
was starting to become more valuable because they would be
paying out more money and then they would go out so they would
go up in price with these guys who make a killing on
treasuries.
And please remember that the Federal Reserve is owned by
private banks we don't even know who owns all the Federal Reserve
because it's unpublished information and considered
private so so they're just gonna go that's a double whammy John
it's a double whammy these guys just can't help but make money
Yeah, yeah well that could be I mean that seems like
a legit make sense and you all the bankers in the middle that
they're just facilitators you know, they're just they're just
in the middle of it and they're getting their pay out like these
guys don't care. They've already been paid. They've already got
their their foreign investments. They've got that land they know
where they're escaping to they know we're going to where
they're going to get away. Paraguay Hey, we got a juicy we
got a note from a report from Gitmo nation south.
Yeah, or Paraguay guy? Yeah. Let me just see. Did you Hey, says
that the bushes are sitting on top of the world's biggest
aquifer. Yeah, that
was last week. He said something new. I thought.
Yeah, it was most at the end here. It
is. A Christian is his name. Here it is. I will tell you
everything he said.
Oops.
Oh, yeah. Everybody here hates the US in general. Not because
Hugo Chavez. This is another Google Translator job. I'll read
it verbatim. It's really hard to understand. I know that over
here. Everybody hates us in general around here not because
Hugo Chavez, it's because what the US have done in the 70s and
80s. Around here. Okay. And the News Daily hitmen? Here's the
interesting thing. In the newspapers in general, they are
well test matching, but I think comparing Obama to Hitler. Yeah.
Wow, that's weird. And he sends a link to a newspaper. Did you?
Did you look at that link? Yeah. Yeah. Hitler's terrible with
weapon publicity.
My god. Yeah, it's actually an interesting article is in the
Washington Post. And it kind of talked about how, you know,
well, you know, the story be, you know, Hitler had gurbles.
And his PR dude, who was a PR guy, basically. And the thing
was, is that if you read Greg, by the way, if anybody like who
just is a public relations person, or they want to study
propaganda, most of gurbles speeches and talks, and a lot of
his papers are online, here and there in translation, they're
very interesting to read. And he's Arabis very thoughtful
public relations, propaganda guy, you know, on the same, you
know, in the same league as Obama's campaign.
What's his name? Alex,
got the mustache Axelrod and whatever Axelrod, Axelrod and
Karl Rove, obviously, have to read this stuff. But what it
was, is that the only reason that Hitler was such a PR nut in
terms of developing imagery, and all this is because in World War
One, we were the geniuses at the time. We the United States, in
particular, we're the ones and if you look at World War One
posters, which are available at the Library of Congress, you
look at many of them there. Look at look at World War One
propaganda posters, and we're the ones that were just, you
know, calling the, the, you know, the Germans, giant rapist
apes, you know, and they had pictures of them. And they were,
you know, we didn't know what a German looked like. So they made
him look like a gorilla. And with a helmet on, you know, and
basically with dead women in both arms, you know, yeah, rock
walking across Europe, and just really, you know, heavy hitting,
you know, to get the and this by the way, it's from the benefit
of the bankers too, because the bankers are deep into debt with
the British we
have which which banker? John just specify which bankers can't
remember. But anyway, so, like the Rothschild like bankers must
have been, it seems
so yes. But anyway, so they, they cranked up the propaganda
machine, they got the public, oh, we got to stop these should
we must stop them. And, you know, we got involved and ended
up you know, at the time, by the way, just before World War One,
especially around the turn of the century, the United States
and Britain Britain were not. Not friends.
No, no, in fact, were the the Anglo the Dutch Anglo Empire and
the US made enemies
right. Largely, yeah. Hmm. And that's
part of our special relationship as they call it, we have a
special relationship
so we weren't friends and then they'd propaganda machine
cranked up and somehow made us you know, friends and we had to
go help them. So so the so the Germans were aware of this and
gurbles bitches about this incessantly in many of his
papers, saying, you know, how are you here? Here's we got beat
and we didn't get beaten by a better army or by anybody got
beaten by propaganda. And so he made an effort to make sure that
Hitler had the best propaganda machine in the world, and could
just pretty much take on anybody from that perspective. You know,
I mean, they made everything sound like it was. It was good.
And so now I guess in South America, some people are quoting
what Obama did, because it was a propaganda machine par
excellence, from a guy who's really inexperienced is pushed
this guy right to the top with a lot of really good work. And the
posters which was plagiarized, by the way,
excellent work, though.
Excellent work, and bingo, that guy is the President now and so
that you can see the association.
What were the wheels are coming off the PR machine, because I
quite clearly saw President Obama promised that Treasury
Secretary Timothy Geithner would have all the details of the
plan. And then, you know, that was supposed to happen Monday,
and they postponed it till Tuesday. And I'm sitting there,
I'm like, I'm ready. You know, I'm watching. I'm watching.
We've got Erin Burnett on the scene, you know, I'm ready. And
then these guys danzi says nothing, absolutely nothing. In
fact, they even said, we have no plan. We'll have a lot of a plan
to in the next couple of weeks market starts tanking as as he
speaking, it drops 300 points. And that I'm sure the only thing
I can deduct from that is that there's a huge problem because
that kind of PR mistake that I mean, they're no rookies when it
comes to that they wouldn't have
somebody screwed up. It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't keeping his
eye on the ball. So I'm looking at treasuries, 30 year
treasuries, and that same date, the October surprise,
that's a good one, John, thank you.
That thing was floating around $4.25 and it dumped it to about
250
Right? So first, they tank they tank everything, then they start
buying them up,
and then they start buying up so it's floating around 350 But if
you have billions and trillions of dollars, you can't really
invest it in anything without moving the stock itself. But you
could do that with these treasuries you know, they have
already moved it up to 350 but this but it's historically
trades around five so there's there's a big pile of money to
be made and nice margin in there it for big money. I mean, this
is the not privacy for so
perhaps what we what we're seeing here, John is the middle
guys, you know, the city banks and the JP Morgan's and Goldman
Sachs. So they've they've really they've made all their money,
they paid themselves over $150 billion in bonuses in the past
year and a half trillion of those big yachts yet they so
they've made all that money and now the real evil people are
going to make their money and they do it on a much bigger
scale with a with this type of treasury scam.
Yeah, that could be whatever the case is. Wow. That would it's
actually good news for the public if actually if the if
what we described comes to pass. This will be a good thing for
us. Why? Because it'll get the economy going again, because you
can't get a loan or anything. These guys are basically locked
everyone out.
I don't I don't think
I have a bad benefit to publicly if it happens
that way. But I have a bad feeling about the economy
recovering. That's my point. Yeah, I'm
still optimistic. No, one of us is and I will say Well somebody
has to be and I would make Why am I is a buzzkill.
No one ever said you were you keep making a point at
pot and the buzz kill and divorce. Okay, I still believe
that none of this would have happened.
Oh wait. It's crackpot and the buzzkill and Devorah that's what
it's supposed to be.
Let me go kill this phone call.
You kill that phone call, man. So are you Yeah, killing it?
You're answering the phone call?
No, I just want to see what it was. But it's you know what it
is, is that same call I get every time we do a show with
this recording about somebody who does rug cleaning. And I
can't get off this list. They keep calling me. Unbelievably
annoying. Your rug? AAA rug cleaning. You have rugs that you
need cleaned? If so stay on the line.
All right. Let me ask you one question is we gotta close this
up, man. We're a buck 39 This is way overdue this too long. So
the stimulus package looks like it's passed. Looks like I mean,
it's gonna go through there were three, three Republicans who
were thanked incessantly, by the way at the bailout press
conference yesterday. The two in particular are snow and Specter.
So they're the ones that crossed the line and essentially got
this thing passed through. So remember those names, but why is
it how can how can all these people on one hand say we had to
RAM this through really quick because every single day is
costing you know, 1000s of jobs, billions of dollars. We're all
going to die. Yet when you look at it all those spending happens
in 2010. How does that work? Magic? All right. That's good
enough for me, man. Magic. It is. Like it. We're
back on Sunday. Yeah, we're
gonna do it Sunday for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Just
to have the have a couple of days in between, although
Saturday. Yeah.
Well, it gives me a chance to do it on Saturday. But you know,
let's do it. Sunday. Let's do it Sunday. Then your but what
always happens then is then you have you're so hyped up. And
you're, of course, because it's such a fantastic show. Then you
go and you repeat all the stuff on twit. Yeah, so you're gonna
watch a crossover? Man.
By the way? I don't repeat anything on Twitter. Are you
kidding me? Are you kidding me? You're you're like nuts. When it
comes to this stuff is bull.
You always repeat topics we discuss on no agenda on twit.
Well, you know, like those of us always say if you have a good
thing. You know, you have something that people are
interested in and you want to repeat yourself, just keep
repeating yourself because they're still interested. I
don't think it's a bad thing. If I'm doing that, but I'm not.
We're going to talk about the Munich Security Council on
Twitter.
Come up, you watch you watch it come up.
It will now. By the way, Leo.
Take a look at the speed C span piece for six hours. It's
really, it's really worth it. You'll enjoy it very much when
you do this, and I wish to talk about that another time.
Besides I do a lot of cross referencing, we need to market
the show up. We need another 50,000 listeners.
Wait a minute, we're going to talk about our donation scheme.
Yes, we're going to have a subscription based thing we have
to get some income for doing this. And we're going to ask
people to subscribe and let
me let me give it let me give a little bit of background to
that. The reason why we need this is because when the economy
really comes crashing down, we won't have any money either. So
we'd like to have a little bit to set aside I think we should
every donation John we should convert into gold. We could do
that. Yeah. And we won't spend it we'll just keep it in gold
and it could be like an emergency fund for all of our
listeners.
Is it a Pay Pal accountant as good as gold?
Yeah. Okay. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we closed
down the show. crackpot on the Buzzkill. Coming to you from
Gitmo nation east in southwest London in the curry terrace. I'm
Adam curry.
I'm John C. Dvorak in Silicon Valley north and I'm also known
as the optimistic Buzzkill.
We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on no agenda