It's another dark and rainy evening in Northern California.
It's time once again, for the show that has no jingles. no
music, no commercials, no talent and no agenda. Coming to you
from the curry condo. I'm Adam curry.
I'm John C. Dvorak in the fabulous
divorce mansion in the mansion.
Yeah, the Ford mansion needs paint job.
Hey, JC, how you doing? Okay. I just got back from a president
and CEO dinner at Sequoia Capital.
How was that?
It? You know, I gotta tell you. It was really nice. It was at
this place called Nola in Palo Alto. It's like a as in no lies
in northern Louisiana. So it's kind of Cajun and
actually know that they actually what it really means is New
Orleans, Louisiana.
What did I say?
He said Northern.
Oh no, I'm confused. I meant exactly. New Orleans, Louisiana.
There's actually a restaurant in New Orleans. New Orleans, called
Nola. That's one of what's his name that the bank chef that guy
who Emeril Emeril is one of emeralds restaurants. And it's
really I've eaten there and it's outstanding. But what's really
impressive to me when you go to that place, is that they have a
wine list that has every price you can imagine for any kind of
wine, and you could throw a dart at that list and everything's
incredible winner is
good. So about 2020 Guys I think the noteworthy well the guys you
would know of course would be Mark Kwame, Mike Moritz and God
was the guy from South Africa the know from okay, that guy was
gonna hate me now. He only gave us he only gave us $5 million
rule off. So be cut out. But if you look around the room and you
look at these companies, they're pretty well invested in in media
companies. I think that if we if we pulled all of our resource
resources together for towards advertisers, which of course we
actually discussed, we could be a pretty pretty big force. You
know, this very interesting companies. What I found the most
interesting two companies actually. One is eHarmony. The
CEO was there.
That guy? Yeah, Harmony guy, the white haired guy who's the who's
on the commercial? It's his creed.
Believe it or not, that's not this. That's not the CEO.
Oh, okay, so that's just some phoney guy. Yeah,
that is definitely not him.
I mean, that guy's creepy.
No, no, no, this is very nice guy. Yeah. Also, there was the
CEO of jaja. You familiar with jaja? Never heard of it. It's j
aj h.com. And it's not surprised. Well, you know,
they're doing amazing business. I've actually been a client.
That's why it was was interesting to me. And I've been
a client of the company for over two years. It's it's a cheap
phone service. Basically.
All Yeah, no, I've heard of him. Right.
Now he's, he's saving me like 400 pounds a month just between
my wife calling her sister so I mean, he's got a pretty good
service there, I'd say. And otherwise, it was alright. You
know,
there's a have any, any media people there at all?
From media companies?
You know, I mean, like, you know, journalists that Oh, no,
no, no, no,
no, this is calling silence. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, the
cone of silence. Non Disclosure. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm
sure there's all kinds of so I'll tell you all about it
tomorrow, back and forth by competitive companies. Oh, you
don't want to have any
keiretsu it's the cartel. Sounds boring. No, it wasn't boring.
What was good about it? It was short. So that didn't there was
no way it could be boring. Yes. It could have been boring. It
could have been one of those really long drawn out things
now. It's like going on the table. Hey, how you doing what's
just reintroduction or new people who you know, one guy
there, PUD. Philip from adBrite. He used to work for Ron and
Isaiah. You know, it's pretty familiar room. And, you know, we
just give an update and we see if there's anything we can do
together and then we have a drink have some food and then we
all fuck off. It's pretty good. Was the food any good? Yes. Food
was excellent. I had the they had a strip steak, which they
served around mashed potatoes with fried onion. Onion strips
on top. Yeah, it was an a garnish around the side. I'm
trying to explain it to you as best as possible because I know
you care. But it was yeah, it was it was quite nice, actually.
Hey, so there's a restaurant opening up down this you know
from the Pato headquarters. If You go down. Was it Bryant? No,
Brandon got on Brandon. To fourth, I guess, just a little
bit beyond that. So I was what you were doing this I was
spending the day down in Half Moon Bay at the Ritz Carlton at
the Always On conference with a bunch of venture capital guys.
Right. And, you know, I didn't get that much out of I did see a
bunch of people I needed to see. And you know, schmoozed and the
PR woman that runs the Ritz Carlton, there used to be my
Booker at Tech TV. The Booker Booker. Yeah. And she used to
and so I have no organs and you know, she has been fine. You can
spend the night you know, you have for you know, whatever I
can ever go down. Oh, cool. It's just me. But you know, she's,
she's, she's a nice woman. Okay. All right. Well, you sound like
one of these guys is on the forum here. You know, she's,
she's,
I mean it I John, I say I say this to the office about women.
I don't why should I be any different on this
show? Yeah, there's the evidence against you. Anyway, so through,
she's a good looking woman. I've always liked her. She's very
pleasant. And a great PR person. She's really smart. But I didn't
know she was a mega foodie. Oh, wow. And so she's starting her
own agency, and she's going to do wine and food, PR. Well,
excellent. Excellent. Cuz we have it anyway. So I've had the
tour, I get to meet the chef and I got the tour of the place. I
did all this stuff, the you know, what would that was going
on and had a bunch of, you know, free food down there. I don't
know where that story was going. I had a point to make before you
brought up that. I'm
sorry. I'm sorry. So I you know, I'm always scanning across all
of the news shows. And I heard one thing very consistent this
morning. As I also was the first opportunity I had to listen to
twit 124 and buzz out loud and no one has any news in the
technology world. Everyone's full of crap.
That's where we'll take over on this show because we've got
absolutely nothing Okay back to my story. So anyway, so I'm
talking to her and she knows all the gossip about what's going on
with the restaurant scene around here and she's really got great
information but apparently is his new spot she believes gonna
be the next hot spot taking over for genuine from San Francisco
knows these places myth has been sold to somebody else and the
hot spot right now is spruce and but there's a new one she
believes is going to be the next big thing and I she I had this
conversation was very in depth on this instance I've now
realised that she's stunning when it comes to being you know
this at this level of foodie. Orson is the name of the place
it's gonna be down there around fourth and excellent brand and
so we can walk through and finally have a place for them to
have something cool. They probably will course won't be
able to for lunch. So with the resume Well, I
had, I had dinner just to wrap up the food part of the show. I
had dinner at spruce and I gotta say I was well impressed. How'd
you
get into spruce?
I just called them up and said, Don't you know who I am?
As you get into spruce, I obviously I'm not buying that
argument. I don't
know Rosie made the reservation for me. Rosie Rosie's got to
pull in this town Man. Be on the lookout for Rosa. Yeah, I have
to talk to her about the portions were really really
small. Which which I don't like
yeah, you're like a throwback. Well, those people Yeah, a
little
bit. So that was but the service was really the presentation was
great. Taste was great. Quality was great. The service was
really knowledgeable and and yeah, it was good. It was all
around great experience if you sit in the back room, by the
way, because that's where you can actually have a
conversation. You can't really talk in that in that front. Oh,
the mess hall of front is very noisy.
Oh, that's not good. Yeah, well, you know, because place is owned
by the guy who did the Woodside or not that would say but the
village pub or the village tavern or whatever the hell it
gets called isn't Woodside which is a great restaurant that's
kind of underrated. And so they open this place up in San
Francisco I guess it gets a reputation but if you know you
probably get the same food at the village pub or the village
tavern whatever it's called. in Woodside so without having to
deal with long wait so anyway before we finish the food
section of this show,
no not more.
Yes, you're getting free tea. Oh yes. We did a very short piece a
few weeks ago about PG Tips and whatever else apparently you
ended up good I got nothing by the way.
I haven't received it arrived at the at the UK office and Carrie
sent me an email.
Tell us who sent to me and why.
So let's see if I can find the actual email somewhere in here.
The York's the Yorkshire Tea Company themselves sent it over
and they said they had heard the show and could not resist trying
to bring me up to the real gold standard of Yorkshire instead of
PG Tips. I was tickled. And there's a whole box apparently
so I can't wait to to get to the office which, by the way,
Monday, so I'm flying back tomorrow afternoon Monday
evening. We have our PI and show UK Christmas dinner we're not
doing a huge party but it's in you know when you put a staff
together with spouses and you know some of our our talent who
who work full time for for productions we're doing now
you're talking 2530 people. So, of course Patricia and I were
going to go to the party. What do you think shows up today in
my email box? An invitation for Monday night starting at six
o'clock for the Led Zeppelin one off reunion concert and party.
I'm like, Oh my fucking god, I feel so bad for the pod show
people that I won't be able to make it.
You get an ad to make a showing.
No, I'm of course I'm going to the Christmas party. The
man. I don't know. Yeah, that Zeppelin one off because those
guys are so gone by now. But
yeah, but it's like the Ahmed article editor gun tribute and
yeah, there's gonna be a hole. Everyone in the fucking world is
going to be there.
So I went to the first Led Zeppelin concert when they
didn't nice as they came out to the West Coast. And I went,
luckily enough got to see him when they first showed up. Wow.
And it was really a pretty dynamite experience, because no
one had heard this type of sound before because they were you
know, as a power trio with a different twist. And especially
with Jimmy Page, because at the time he was, you know, he's
doing stuff with the guitar, including playing it with like a
violin, right? Yeah, with a bow string. You know, it was like,
What the heck is that? But the curious thing is, so I was
working part time, I was working like, I was working and going to
college at the same time. And I was and I would do that, by the
way. And so I was in the luncheon place. Talking to some
guy was like a big one. These guys who went to all this
concerts like I used to do. And I and I noticed there's one
curious thing that happened at the concert that I thought was
was odd. In the middle of one of their songs, which one of the
songs that had a break in it when they be singing the scene
and going crazy and have a break and then they didn't Jimmy Page
would rip into a guitar solo. At the moment of the break.
Somebody in the left hand back corner lead out a blood curdling
shriek that match beautifully. The timing and everything was
perfect for the music and it was like it really added a dimension
to the song but actually stabbed. Now it was just
somebody screeching, and but it always stuck in my mind is like,
awkwardly perfect.
Uh huh. You missed it.
I went to this guy and I said, did you What did you go? And he
went, someone said, some other day I said, did you notice? And
I pointed out to him, specifically, this blood
curdling shriek at this one moment in the song and that live
in the back of the room, you know, in the corner. And he
said, Yeah, I thought that was weird. I heard that too. So
apparently, they were ahead of their times with setting these
shills into the audience. Oh, cool. Yeah, that's what I was
thinking. But you know, ever since then, I think I've been
sceptical but everything
it's called show business John. Show show business. So I've been
you got you got any stories you want to launch away? Let
me finish before we go. Still not done. You have more food, a
special blend. PGT is what it's all about. And the one thing we
didn't mention and maybe get some of this for free course.
Nobody says anything to me. No lifeboat tea, which I mentioned
to you, but we didn't get it on the air. Yeah, it's really one
of the more interesting British teas of people out there want to
like a tea with a real punch to it. Lifeboat tea was supposedly
used by the British emergency corps and their lifeboats. So
they could you know, it would give them an extra punch of, of
caffeine or whatever. And
that's good stuff. Okay. Like is delicious,
actually is actually quite tasty. Ah. All right. I'm done.
So I've gone on. Let me see. We talked last time we talked, we
talked about the military industrial complex, or maybe
that was at the office. I was showing you Eisenhower's cool.
Yeah,
you're like getting a little nutty about this stuff. But
yeah,
well, I someone sent me another Eisenhower quote, which I just
got to read
back up and tell people, okay, if anybody's out there, they
want to go look up Eisenhower on YouTube. And he has this really
nice speech that he gave, and I, you know, vaguely remembers
hearing it over the years about about the dangers of the
military industrial complex. And it's actually when you hear the
speech, which you have isolated, I should put on the blog. It's
actually quite, quite, quite interesting.
So check this one out from a couple of years before that
speech. So he was still president 1954. I haven't found
audio of it yet, unfortunately. So I'm telling you, this guy's
the Nostradamus of American politics. Listen to this. Should
any political party attempt to abolish Social Security,
unemployment insurance and eliminate labour laws and farm
programmes you would not hear that party again in In our
political history, there's a tiny splinter group, of course
that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few
Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or
businessman from other areas, their number is negligible, and
they are stupid. Isn't that a great quote?
You know, Eisenhower, I think was under appreciated, the more
we you know, over time, I think people are starting to
appreciate that guy more and more and more me guys. He was a
military. You know, yeah, he
was he was a general, right?
He was the hot boy. He's the one who organised that, you know,
the D Day thing. Yeah, he was the man. And he was always like
he had, you know, he didn't seem like a humorous guy by any
means. He was kind of a stiff business type as a president.
And he was despised by the Democrats, because he was a
Republican. And but the fact of the matter, was it looking back
on, he may actually have been one of the better presidents
we've ever had, surely
you can recommend some literature to our listeners, I
can't think of anything I because I got to find out more
about this guy. The more he wrote, I
think he wrote a couple of books, which would be worth
reading. And he's probably got, there's probably a few
biographies. I'll look into it. I mean, you know, like everybody
else, I've taken him for granted. And it's like, maybe I
should rethink it. So
so I'm on this tear now about, you know, how can we how can we
stop the military industrial complex? Yeah, I know, I'm
getting nutty. But hear me out. Because I actually have I have a
really good idea. So if I were to ask you, what is the most
powerful force in the American economy? What would you say?
The most powerful force? Yeah.
What is the most powerful force in the American economy? It's
used all the time in financial reporting.
And financial reporting, I was gonna say sex before you said
that.
In the American economics. Profit, no consumers know,
right. It's the American consumer. That is the God
almighty power of this country. Would you agree?
I think so. Yeah. Okay. That's what makes the country a big
market.
So I saw this, this really cute animation, Flash type, real time
video thing on a website called story of stuff.com. And it's
basically the story of how stuff is made, you know, from and of
course, from a green vantage point. So first, we rape the
earth, then we then we create all this chemical toxic shit by
creating stuff and then we package all this stuff up, and
then people take it home, and then it turns into garbage. And
only 1% actually is recycled, you know, one of those stories,
and, but the thing that struck me is the whole part about the
consumerism and apparently there was an economist after the
Second World War, his name escapes me for a second. And he
came up with the idea of using the American people this
consumer force to fuel the economy through something called
obsolescence by design. Or designed obsolescence. So
products that are absolutely in the land land plant. I'm sorry,
planned obsolescence. Thank you. So products that are designed to
break after six months or that need?
Great, it's available? And you're talking about right?
Yeah, that's it. Thank
you, John. I love it. Man, you are so fucking smart. And then
there's perceived obsolescence, which is basically what the
fashion industry, you know, and they had this great little
graphic of, so you know, you work really hard all day, you
come home, you sit in front of television, then television
says, You suck, you don't have the coolest shoes, and then you
go out to shop and you get the cooler shoes and you feel
better. And then you go real work twice as hard and take
another job to be able to afford it and you go home and you rest
and you watch television and then they tell you you suck
again, because you've got yet the wrong bag. And it's this
endless loop of perceived obsolescence. And I was thinking
we should make it first of all if if we want to protest as a as
a country, all we have to do is just stop consuming, which is a
great way to protest because it's easy to do and we save
money so I really liked the concept of let's just not buy
anything for a while and maybe that'll wake someone up. But
then I thought you know how do you really get people how do you
get that kind of awareness? What if we created a brand and I've
come up with the perfect brand called wrong so instead of
having you know the right Gucci bag or the exact right Chanel
bag or the perfect shoes or the right dress or whatever it is
you could walk in because you know how ladies they're
definitely afraid they walk into into a party and have the wrong
bag right you know, it's like everyone has yet the new
version. I've got the wrong Oh, she's got the wrong bag. Oh my
gosh. So why don't we just create a brand called wrong and
you have these you know, handbags and just like a Gucci
logo logo it'll say wrong so that you can be proud by
protesting by using the same bag not being a part of the
perceived obsolescence by wearing and using the wrong
brand. I've already registered shop wrong.com and by wrong.com
in Yeah, me, I'm
on the board. Okay, thank
you. We're making T shirts first. That's our first
features. Gotta
say wrong. Yes, wrong.
But with a great logo. So it really looks fashionable, right?
Just wrong.
It doesn't you know it does. Franklin Gothic will work, you
know, any good type font. So I kind of surprised this actually
is an outstanding idea. No question. I'll get some fly.
Like, you're just say whatever curry says,
You don't you do not you do not.
And so I'm just saying this to the two or three guys out there.
Anyway, so I think you should look into this further, because
I actually wouldn't be surprised if somebody else isn't doing
something similar. It's just too good of an idea.
I was amazed that knowing that there's a place out there called
shop, right? And Best Buy that I could get shop wrong. And by
wrong.com, I was blown away that those domain names were
available. And of course, I got them using my GoDaddy code DSC
one. Speaking of perceived obsolescence
that's funny because I came up with an idea today to which is
something I think I'm going to implement, okay. It's called the
Disclosure Project. And I'm gonna I've got a PR woman that,
you know, owes me a favour. I'm gonna have her promote,
she doesn't work at halfmoon Bay, does she by any chance? No,
no, she's
actually I'm going to work with her though she's on some food,
things. You know, when I do some other projects, I'm going to
bring her on because she's
get back to your your Disclosure Project, food
restaurant critic, because we have a crappy one here in the
Bay Area, and some has to be done. Anyway, the Disclosure
Project and the ideas and I came up with the idea because of my
bloggers, because I have like, eight guys or so that blog for
me. And they also have the default cage match and the other
divorce that org slash blog. And there's, you know, I contribute,
but everybody else does, too. And they come up with a lot of
great stuff. But I want to put a page up with every one of these
comments. Of course, I've been clear with these guys yet,
because I just thought of it today, I want to put a page up.
And I think I'm going to push it as a project that all media
outlets should do, which is that I want to list of the writers
that are contributing. And I want to know what their
political affiliation is, what their religious affiliation is,
and all the other things that would be interesting. So you can
reevaluate what they have to say, based on what they would
obviously have as a background. And now all I can see somebody
will I don't want to say well, who I voted for, I don't want to
seven Republican or Democrat, I don't want to do because I it's
private, it's private, private, I can see people moaning about
the concept. But the fact of the matter is, if you're in the
Fifth Estate, you're you're providing information to the
public, and you're digging into all kinds of things. I think you
have to make a sacrifice once in a while and tell people where
you're coming from. And that's what I call the Disclosure
Project. I think it would be interesting to see, you know, so
when you read an article in The New York Times by so and so I
want to be able to click on that guy's name and see what you
know, where he's come background is public. And is he a Democrat?
Is it part of the Union? Is he a freelancer? Is he
Catholic is let me ask you a question. Isn't that kind of
where it's going to move eventually, anyway, where I
would I? Yeah, you're a writer, but I see you as a journalist.
If I want to know what John C Dvorak is about, I go to John C,
dvorak.org, DeVore, org.org/blog, whatever. And I
can read about you and I can make up my own mind. It's not
exactly disclosed in that manner. But you know,
actually, you don't know that much what you get on the Vorta
or slash blog look at short bio, which I have listed yet, you
know, I wrote for here or won this award, I've done this, I do
that, but I get insight into you, you get very little it
doesn't say it's not the same as knowing that I, you know, that,
like we talked about before, like I've done, you know,
Universal Life Church and I, you know, I'm agnostic and but I'm
not an atheist like these other guys, I got two or three
atheists, you know, well,
I think it's a really good idea. First of all, I doubt that any
journalist will participate because I think you're right,
they're all gonna say well, I
think they could be for it. I think that if the public
demanded it, I know.
I know. I know how you can force them. Make it a wiki Yeah, make
it a wiki and if you know but but they're allowed to change
it.
I liked that I you know what else? That's what's gonna end up
becoming because oh, this
is it. Here it is. So you send them an email. Congratulations,
you are now on the Disclosure Project. A wiki page has been
created for you. Anyone can go in and put anything they want.
But if you register you know with with these credentials,
whatever, then you have an admin so that you can go in and change
it to what you believe is true. In disclosure, right, but the
The changes will remain in place, something like that. That
can be very cool. That would work. down to million dollar
ideas in one in 25 minutes on a rolling, we are that good.
Actually, we had a guy that was doing cranky geeks the other day
and guy comes, the conversation changed to like an idea. Oh,
boy. And I have to kind of remember what it was. But it was
like a money maker. You probably we should like just do this. I
mean, come on. A lot of money making it isn't a problem. By
the way. For people out there listening. This this little
area, the San Francisco Bay area, especially around the
Silicon Valley. meal you is essentially it's all you do all
the time, as you're just coming up with these idiotic ideas.
Some of them are good, some are stupid. But there's just the
whole scene is nothing but just dreaming up concepts and ideas
and trying to make some money or if nothing else, just
implementing or having fun. It's really an odd place.
Yeah, and I couldn't were you. Were you here in the 60s? Yeah,
you were out here, aren't you?
And I was just I was a youngster. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Sorry, I forgot. But hasn't this place always been
like that?
You know, I think it goes back to the gold mining era.
Oh, wow. You weren't around then too, aren't you just a youngster
but I was just
a kid. But I think really in the at once gold and then silver was
discovered. And then all these just quiet, you know, borderline
criminals came out here with their banks, you know that all
these guys became very famous, you know, bought these. And, you
know, they took advantage of the situation. That group I think,
is the progenitors of everything we've seen since even though
like people like to credit Silicon Valley with Stanford.
But if you look at Stanford, Stanford himself, the original
Leland Stanford goes back to that same era was you know,
borderline crook. And it's like, the whole scene is really come
from the from the Gold Rush and the scammers and everybody that
came and went, and it still exists. In fact, 1000 at a
party. I won't say who was placed, but it's one of these
guys. I think, actually, I think I think it was the CEO of
Intuit. And it's a big mansion, Scott. And so there's this party
there and there was something I was in one of the rooms talking
to somebody and there's this one very cynical guy, making me look
like a normal guy. And you were talking about well, you know,
there's a lot of you know, I was I was actually promoting the the
valley thing is, you know, a way that a lot of ideas and stuff
are generated and I was I don't know why it was so uptempo, you
were smoking the dope. No, I was not smoking anything. In fact,
there was rarely I wasn't even drinking much. Maybe that's the
problem. But anyway, whatever the case, this guy says, What
are you talking about? He says, this whole thing is just a big
scam. All these guys are just a bunch of salesmen selling crap
to the public. There's like there's nothing to it. It's
shallow. It's just making money from the making of money sake.
And he went on and on and everyone think I walked away
going, you know what? He's right.
To a certain extent, absolutely. We are. I noticed over and over
how weirdly out of place we are here in San Francisco. Not you.
But pod show as a company.
I don't think that out of place.
I think we're very out of place. I mean, not not from the
engineering perspective. But from, you know, first of all,
we're building a business that actually sells things to
companies who gladly pay for it.
You know, that's a little weird.
We make money, you know that that's like wrong. You shouldn't
be doing that. But I can tell I can tell sometimes like, wow,
this is so so out of place here. But I also makes it fun. So I
think we cannot end this show as American citizens without
briefly having touched on. HR 1955.
Yeah, go ahead. I know about this. Go ahead.
Okay. The violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism
prevention act of 2007.
Yeah, no, I first saw this, I think it was somebody presented
it on the blog. And I looked at it and when I first saw it, I
think I thought it was a hoax.
I thought the exact same thing, but it's not. This has already
passed the House of Reps. I
know I looked it up. It's on the government site. It's a real
thing I'm looking at
right now. Okay, so this is a bill. That is and I'm actually
they have a summary. Should I just read the summary that it's
on the damn website? It should be understandable. Okay.
Introduced for 19 2007 homegrown terrorism prevention act 2007
amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to add provisions
concerning the prevention of homegrown terrorism, in
parentheses, terrorist terrorism by individuals born raised or
based and operating primarily in the United States. It directs
the secretary of Homeland Security to one establish a
grant programme to prevent Hold on a second to prevent
radicalization use of which is defined as use of an extremist
belief system for facilitating ideologically based violence and
homegrown terrorism in the United States, and to establish
or designate a university based Centre of Excellence for the
Study of Radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the
United States. And three, conduct a survey of
methodologies implemented by foreign nations to prevent
radicalization and homegrown terrorism. It prevents the
Department of Homeland Security's efforts to prevent
ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism from
violating the constitutional and civil rights and civil liberties
of US citizens and lawful permanent residents. And
actually, I think the summary doesn't, they omitted something
very important in this summary, I believe. Let me just see if I
can look at the full text.
Well, I mean, I looked over this thing. And one of the things
that came out of it's like, they could almost take the law that
this thing has passed, and it's not thrown out by a court, which
is bound to happen if somebody goes after
404 representatives vote on
these people. This is the Do they
ever do. They read this fucking shit. This is
the Roman Senate. These people are horrible. And I'm gonna do a
follow up story after you're done with this with a 409 to two
vote on something just as stupid and dangerous as that thing
you're talking about, which is ridiculous. And these guys just
rubber stamp everything. And this is supposed to be this is
why Congress, by the way, you know, if you follow the polls,
the President has like this ridiculous low rating, you know,
historically low under 30% approval rating, but Congress is
like around 10% approval rating, because these guys were had all
these promises, especially the Democrats, and they did nothing
and now they roll over on all these idiotic laws. And the one
I'm going to talk about well,
before you get there before you go on the rant, let me just read
definition number two, and I just want you to pick that apart
because you are a a wordsmith. Violent radicalization is
determined as the process of adopting or promoting an
extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating
ideologically based violence to advance political, religious or
social change that cannot go into law.
I know it's idiotic, it's crazy. But there are some other aspects
apparently, almost, I think there you there's one
interpretation, where even criticising the President could
wait, you could wind up and
yes, you can, you can, you can be deemed a homegrown terrorist.
So even we just discussed what I just discussed about slowing
down the consumer engine of the United States could most
definitely be taken to task by this.
Can I have your job? Of what sitting in jail when you get
thrown into get? Yes,
only if you promise to do a show every single day, okay. As long
as you do the daily source code every day, it's fine. It'll be
the job. It's Devorah xe DSC,
be the daily source code with John C. Dvorak is not gonna
gonna change much. I
appreciate it. That's nice. That's very cool. Don't
forget the FUBAR Friday, homage to you once in a while. Yeah,
on Fridays, that's all I asked.
So we that'd be good to go like to say, well, you know, Good
Friday show and of course, you know, Adam is in Gitmo, and I
guess they're beating the crap out of him but you know, hey,
electrocuting my testicles, but otherwise everything's fine. So
obviously call to action. People. If please, please write
to your Congressman. What do we have to do John Hughes you write
to your congressman, what are you supposed to do Hey, with
the Congress rolls over like this. You can read all your wine
it's not going to help
it but this this can go into law. This is this isn't outrage.
We really have to stop this. This is ultimately
the Supreme Court's not going to put up with it was sorry. Let's
follow up with another ludicrous. I'm going to read it
this was taken from the this is a post on the blog as a matter
of fact, is the SAFE Act SAF II act.
Oh, yes, I've read this one. Hold on a second. Hold on, hold
on one second, John. Like Hey, John, can I tell you right back
I'm just recording no agenda with the other John. Okay. All
right back now by Fernandez our financial dude, he's still at
the office. Oh, poor bastard. Yeah, really? Okay. Sorry, the
SAFE Act. Yes. Refresh my memory.
Okay. And I'm gonna read from the blog post. If you own a Wi
Fi spot that's accessible and free or own a business that
provides such a service. Yes, I remember I've just gets a wee
bit more complicated seems that Congress passed by a margin of
409 to two and by the way, I'll bet you one of those two is Ron
Paul.
Yes, it absolutely you are right, Gary. He is Ron Paul
voted against it.
They pass the safe S A F E Act, which stands for securing
adolescents from exploitation online act. You know, this is a
great thing to couch things in. Anyway, it goes on while
everyone will most people are against terrorism and child
porn. This sweeping Bill pits the operators of services such
as Wi Fi and social networks against its users and leaves the
onus on the operator and here's a quote from the article that
was cited. The US House of Representatives on Wednesday
overwhelmingly approved a bill saying that anyone offering an
open Wi Fi connection to the public must report illegal
images, including obscene cartoons and drawings, or face
fines of up to $300,000. The broad definition would cover
individuals coffee shops, libraries, hotels, and even some
government agencies that provide Wi Fi. It also sweeps in social
networking sites, domain name registrars, internet service
providers and email service providers such as Hotmail and
Gmail, they require that the complete contents of the user's
account be retained for subsequent police inspection
hellos that, isn't that funny?
So another one is passed by
these idiots. 409 to two, it makes no sense. And besides
that, it's not possible to do what they demand. It's not
possible. It's not technologically possible. And
essentially, everybody would just have to shut down. So I
mean, so the whole thing is idiotic. It's not going to go
anywhere, because it can't because it can't work. But
nobody's going to vote against it, these morons because it's
about kiddie porn, and then all of a sudden, when it's not, it's
really not about that at all. But no, but that's what it's
labelled. Yes, labelled as as securing adolescence. Boy, I
will definitely vote for that. No one.
Actually, it's called censorship. That's what that's
it's called censorship. And it's very easy to tack on a little it
just let's just combine these two. You know what? I think you
should while you're scanning for kiddie porn, I think you should
also scan for someone who is in the process of adopting or
promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of
facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political,
religious and social change. Yeah, I think you should retain
his account to make sure he's not doing that. I'm so going to
the slammer. John?
Get Mo, man. Yeah,
no, baby, get Mo.
That's where you're headed.
So we're in trouble?
I don't know. I would lose things, you know, these things
shake out and in the in the wash? Well,
as long as we keep talking about it, and people realise it,
because, you know, yeah, there's some reports here and there. But
look at the timing, look at when this is coming out.
You know, but the thing that gets me the most I mean, I know
these things are gonna get very focused, the smart money's just
gonna do Sue against them. I mean, the courts can't put up
with this yet. But it's the 409 to two. It's like what is wrong
with Congress? That is that they implode for this stuff? Because
they're cowed into it by just the name of the Act, which has
got nothing to do with anything.
I don't believe that even read it. I really don't. I think
somebody they have big staffs that somebody someone's reading
it. Yeah, and someone's reading it gonna shut another kiddie
porn thing. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, you should vote on that
one.
Yeah, you don't want to seek Me. Meanwhile, the two guys with
enough guts enough balls to vote against it are the only two
people that I have any respect for in the Congress. And it's
like, you know, because they're not, you know, it's BS. It's
like, just because something is but you know, you couch it in
oils, about securing adolescents from online, whatever. Yeah,
that's great. That's fine with it. But it's not that's not what
it's about at all. It's got nothing to do with it's not
protecting anybody. It's it's actually trying to shut down
things. So
just so this passed in the Senate right. Now, that's
a congress thing that 409 to two I don't know what the Senate
side. So is this now law?
No, it's just as far as an act. Yeah, never so far. But and then
usually the senators are a little more, you know, they're
because he the Congress will bring the thing in the Senate to
the Senate, the Senator will rewrite it and if they changed
the name of it, you know, from safe to something else, you
know, the idiotic action, like censor all things on the
internet. Don't vote against it.
Go God bless Ron Paul. I hope that I hope that guy wins.
That would make me so happy with his chances of winning are
zeroed. If he wins,
I am so getting laid in the Lincoln Bedroom. I am so getting
laid there.
Probably cut that deal out.
You know, they've asked me to do get it and now they've asked me
to do an endorsement video for them, which of course I'm going
to do. Sure. So yeah, it's, oh, well, we're doing our best and
we'll try and do more of it next week unless you've got anything
left John.
No, I think that's about it. We've got to T plug in, you
know, whatever.
So send us t. And don't send us to jail. Get mo get mo baby.
Coming to you from the curry condo. I'm Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak in Northern California, and
we'll talk to you next week.
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