The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Unless you live
in good mo nation. time for your weekly review of our lives as we
live them. Coming to you from Gitmo nation East in the United
Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak up here in Gitmo nation, West northern
Silicon Valley to be exact.
I'm jealous. That doesn't exist.
The place doesn't exist. Yeah.
Yes. I'm sorry. I stepped on you. You
are John C. Dvorak. Yes. You may have heard of me.
Surely you've heard of me is what you're supposed to sell.
Is that the line? Yeah, that's the line. Oh, surely you'd have
heard that heard of me.
Hey, John, how you doing? Okay. What is going on in Gitmo
nation? North Carolina? What have you been following Canada?
All week? Oh, yeah, they're gonna have a revolution. They
just mind? Yeah, no, it's pretty funny. They're very upset about
this. I haven't followed it as closely as I'd like to. I would
have if I gone up to Washington this weekend. I wouldn't have
been watching the CBC News and I wouldn't have have a better
feeling for it. I do not understand why the Dish Network
and DirecTV any even Comcast do not give us a feed of the CBC.
It just doesn't make any sense to me. And I mean, the CBC has
got all these great shows. And it would give us the CBC
national the news, which is better than our news, by the
way, it's an hour long news show. That's quite good. And we
could keep up with this. And people you know, the Canadians
always moaning Oh, you know, Americans don't even know who
our prime minister is. Well, we would probably if we had some
opportunities to see what because they watch our news.
Yeah.
Well, so anyway, the Prime Minister of Canada what's his
name? Harper I guess they wanted to kick him out.
Well see they he went there's this other guy the opposition
candidate Stephane Dion, who's used to be like kids wish I
could do as an accent of good enough French I have French
accent too two offshore in Accra to it will not in the Canadian
version is flat it's a weird accent but anyway they've
figured some way of doing a coalition to even though the the
partner Harper's party gotten more votes than ever and a
student you know just solid in office but these guys have
figured out some some scheme to actually to
pull together have a coalition and actually put put Harper in
the opposition. Yeah doused him, essentially Yeah, put him out
and so that so so here's here's the crazy thing. Here's here's
what blew me away. And it just goes to show who really runs
Canada. The governor or governor general I think yeah, Governor
General of the Queen of England. Yeah. came in and and suspended
parliament. Yeah, I go Wait, timeout. We're stopping play
boys and girls. The queen doesn't like what you're doing.
I thought Canada was independent of the Queen. I don't know where
I got this impression. Oh,
apparently, in the in the 60s. They tried to really sever the
ties between the Queen of England. And it was bring the
Constitution home I think was the slogan at the time. And I
guess they never wind up doing it or not ratifying it or
wherever it was,
I think Canadians Oh, shit. started the process. I thought I
I thought it I thought we did it.
I didn't do it.
So apparently, so the Canadians a they've not gotten their act
together. I don't know. i This is the weirdest thing I've seen
for a while and the Canadians are all you know in fits about
it. But they have such a they're so they're, they have such a
culturally such a deeply ingrained sense of humour, I
think based on their own history, that they I just have
to see what they're saying at this hour has 22 minutes, which
is there. You know, yes, there's satirical shooters. Yeah. And
they have all the you know, the politicians are always on the
show. In fact, Stephane Dion was just like a regular you know,
they're always having him on and he doesn't he plays along I
mean, all these guys play along it's it's quite a funny show.
Well, it really does blow me away that this guess this guy is
a part of the shadow government or whatever. He was gonna get
kicked out in the Queen stops it. I mean, come on. That's and
the Canadians just sit there and take it I guess.
I don't know what a good choice they have. I mean, you know,
what do we strike general strike, stop, organise, yeah,
angry could
organise that says possible and they have more stimuli. They
have a kind of a socialist bent. There. or it would be possible
for them to organise, but you know, sometimes the socialism
angle is actually prevents you from really taking action, which
is really the irony of socialism. I mean, look at the,
the in Russia for example. I mean they are even in in China
under communist rule. I mean unions are like for Bolton. So
how does that work?
Yeah, it's, well, that the
means of productions beat down those union guys.
And it's like, it's socialism. You wait for the government to
tell you it's time to go protest?
Yeah, that must be it. They haven't been told.
Speaking of satirical shows, man. It's too bad. They don't
have spitting image on anymore here. Remember that show?
Yeah. You know, that show? They did that. I love that show. And
that show, they played it in the US a couple of times, I think on
some PBS stations, very few members. I think of all the
listeners that we have 10 people have probably seen the show. So
maybe some of the those Kritische did your two British
Europeans that watch the show? Anyway, I thought this show was
marvellous. I mean, they they this guy's made these, what
happened to this team of people that made these crazy puppets. I
have
no idea. The puppets of course, were fantastic. But the you
know, the the situations and the storylines, which are very, very
political, was just awesome.
They when they did it over here, they did a lot of Americans too.
They had I mean, I remember that is Reagan was an investor
Stallone, I remember this. Yeah, Sylvester Stallone
and Jackie Stallone, his mom, they had a puppet of her. They
had that there was a lot of Thatcher and Reagan. So if
anybody stuck together once
a description to these puppets would look like. They look like
really high end caricatures. They were not trivial puppets. I
mean, they were there. In fact, I guess there's probably some
pictures of them on the net somewhere. I mean, they're
pretty amazing. Yeah, I
don't know if it's a spitting image or the spitting image. I
can't quite remember. But I think
it was just spitting image. But I recall. But anyway, yeah,
that's too bad. This would be the era to do it.
And oh, kidding. Spitting image. Yeah, it is spitting image
1984 8890. Day four to 9096 is when it ran. Oh, yeah. It's all
over Google. You can find it real easy. There's really no
satirical programmes at all.
Not in the US. There's nothing about it. Some in the 70s that
he called, that was the week that was that kind of became
avant garde, and everyone had to watch it every day. And then
when they had some of the they had some main mainstream comedy
variety shows, right? In primetime, when they had the
Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, they had laugh in, there was a
whole slew of these kinds of shows. And they were all you
know, they weren't dead satirical, like that was the
week that was. But they were you know, they had some some bite,
especially the Smothers Brothers. And that which is
being like documented now on PBS here, like on a weekly basis,
you know, called, there's the censoring the Smothers Brothers
series of pizza shows documenting all the censorship
that took place that resulted in them quitting. And And anyway,
after that, there wasn't anything now there's nothing
except you know, late night TV, you can watch it. Leno, who's,
you know, not very, I wouldn't call him a biting satirist. And
certainly, and Letterman who's funny, but he's got, you know,
and he makes snide remarks about things. But these guys are weak
by comparison to these these biting shows of the past.
Yeah, well, stuff like spitting image. I'm pretty sure that was
a BBC show. Yeah, it was, it was yeah, there was tonnes of money
for that. And, and the charter probably was a little bit
different.
But I mean, with this hour has 22 minutes up in Canada, that
which has been a show on forever. And then there's a
couple of spin offs of it. Those shows are very political and
interesting. We can't even come up with something like that. I
mean, I think there's nothing. I mean,
it's just people don't care anymore. John, I don't care. I
think
I blame the school system.
I'm right there with you, my friend.
That you know, they don't teach these kids anymore. They teach
them some, some kind of left wing crap, that's meaningless.
And then the kids are baffled by because it doesn't make any
sense to him. You know, and then they don't know if
you give a typical high school student if you if you give them
the newspaper and say, Okay, what does this mean on the front
page? You know, let's say it's a proper newspaper. They wouldn't
know they wouldn't have the foggiest idea. Not the
slightest, right. I've always thought that history lesson
should start with today's newspaper and then you know,
pick a topic, any topic and then we're backwards and explain how
it came to be. It's only a couple 100 years
it's I'm baffled by it myself. Then you watch it, you know the
Jay Leno doing his jaywalking, which is probably the only piece
of satire he does, even though it's by no means satire, it just
becomes satire because of the public. And he just had battle
of the jaywalking all stars on the other day. And, you know, it
was like, you know, people answering in all the questions
were taken from a fourth grade book, and that us test for
citizenship. And, you know, these people couldn't answer
anything. They kept missing identifying photos. You know,
one girl thought everybody was John F. Kennedy, including
Nixon. And then one of them thought Alaska was an island.
And it was just amazing.
I really don't like it when they do that about about Americans.
Because first of all you could do about any country and however
you edit it, it can always wind up being funny if you just take
all the people who had the right answers
out, y'all. Yeah, well, you have to do that. Yeah, yeah. No, that
but
that's but that's not that's not satire. That's easy. That's low
hanging fruit,
it well, you know, it started with the, you know, there's
another group that came down from Canada and went to heart.
What's interesting about it to me, and I agree with you, you
can probably go anywhere. I mean, I'm still stunned by when
you see interviews done on European television of people
and everything that I remember when the EU was you know, they
took all the barriers between the countries down so you didn't
need a passport to go from Germany to France, for example.
And it was interviewing somebody who was in Germany and they
asked him if they ever been to Paris, you know, this. Oh, no,
I've never lived my town. You know, I'm thinking just like an
American. You know, some Americans never leave their
town. But I'm thinking if I'm in Germany, and Paris is like a two
hour train ride, what am I doing sitting around as little Berg?
You know, I mean, I'd be going to Paris every weekend.
Although the British man there's a large percentage don't even
have a passport have never ever been off the island.
Yeah, well, I find that to the same way up in Port Angeles,
Washington. You know, where they were right across as an hour
boat ride. You go to Victoria, Canada, which is an incredibly
Cosmo. Well, it's not because it is kind of a funky, old
fashioned version of England cosmopolitan. But it's a
gorgeous little city that's got all kinds of qualities that just
aren't on in the United States at all. It's got a small
Chinatown a little theatre district has got it's like a it
was just interesting. And more 90% of the people that 95% of
the people that live in that town which is doubled right
away, have never been there and they don't have any interest in
going you know, you can ask Why have you ever been to victory
now? I thought about it, you know, kind of thing. That's the
end of it.
That's the pioneering spirit.
Yeah, I think we have to assume that most people worldwide are
not interested in floating around aimlessly.
Meanwhile, in the tiny borough of Guilford, the Surrey police
shot and killed a guy
oh really shot and killed a guy that there were no guns in
England. Yeah,
up near the on the steps of the Guilford cathedral no less
what was he guilty of doing?
looking suspicious and carrying something that looked like a gun
Yeah, it was kind of shocking was it was national news here
because Guilford is not the kind of place he expects something
like that to happen the guy was apparently stressed out. And but
they had choppers after him and they thought he had a gun and
the shot and killed them. But a bang.
So what's the what's the background of this guy that
didn't do any research?
We'll never know. Let's get mo nation East man. We'll never
know. We'll never find out. And you're right. You know, this is
the country where the cops have no guns except in Guilford.
They say they have no gun. Yeah, really? See these guys armed in
Europe or in England at the airport. They these guys are
carrying like semi automatic or semi. These things are probably
fully automatically automatic. You know, ak 40 sevens? No,
they're not a they don't carry well, they're carrying some sort
of a big looking nasty gun.
V F, G.
G. They're walking around the airport with them. Have you ever
seen
the arms on those guys? Yeah, they're big. Yeah, they see they
seem to be from like the same from the same clan you know,
they've got these humongous muscles sticking out of short
sleeves and then some form of incredibly large BFG automatic
weapon.
Yeah. So I'm sure somebody will write in you guys don't know
your guns and they'll tell us what they are. But they're nasty
looking. They're all you know, flat black and look like they're
cocked ready to go. Just in case you have to like pepper the
place for some reason.
Yeah, it's really it's really getting bad over here. Man. I
tell you that remember we talked last week about Damien green,
the minister who they arrested? Yeah. What's come of that? Well,
the papers have gone nuts because they did. Really the way
the newspapers here. They're really important when it comes
to political commentary. So, you know, they've gone completely
apeshit over particularly the secretary of, you know, the Home
Secretary, this woman named Jackie Smith, because, you know,
no one's copping to have known it. And, you know, she says, no,
no, this was a police investigation. I had no
knowledge of it, you know, it's, it's, it's really, really deep.
And what people are writing is, is scathing, and they're making
all the all the right comparisons.
To the public doing about it,
nothing sitting at home watching, I'm a celebrity, get
me out of here, which by the way, was a fantastic series. I
have learned so much. In none of this, you know, the premise of
the show, right? They throw 13 or 14 Celebrities into the
jungle for three weeks, and they have to do all kinds of jungle
trials, including eating live,
and these are celebrities who are not particularly or who
don't happen to be working as, as a coincidence.
Well, I'll tell you that. There were two people, they usually
have some American celebrities in there as well. And this year,
they had George Takei. Who was Sulu from Star Trek. Yes. Oh,
my. And he's, he's like 7071 years old. He's a tough old
bird. And then Martina Navratilova.
Let's see, I sense a theme. Was that keep going?
Well, I was just gonna say I thought it was interesting that
Martina Navratilova was, was in the show at all. You said what
does she like nine or 10 time Wimbledon champion? You know
what, as it turns out, she she felt that she was very shy.
She's always been very shy her entire life. You know, she
really, you know, she goes in, she's at a party, she'll stand
in the corner. And then people have to come up to her she
doesn't mingle or anything like that, by her own admission. And,
and she wanted, and they offered her and she said yes, you might
as well see if she could stretch herself to the limits. And you
know what she came across as a really, really nice lady. Yeah.
Seriously.
Very Nice Person pretty well. She's a great person. Yeah,
she came across as extremely nice. And Georgia. Kay, I just
love he's funny. Yeah, he's got a good sense of humour. Yeah,
old Queen of the Jungle. Very fun as it were.
So
most so that your Republic is doing?
Yeah, I'm just saying that you said you learned something that
you just learned that said Martinez, a nice person and to
Kay's funny. Yeah, that's kind of it. Okay. Yeah, I know that.
You know, the funny thing is, it turns out that that I think the
Bush administration prove this to that, you know, the people in
power can pretty much do anything they want. And you
really must have to push people to an extreme limit. I mean, I
can't imagine how the Russian Revolution or the French
Revolution, or anything, I mean, I can see how the US revolution
kind of became, you know, it just kind of developed. But, you
know, nobody ever drove the Canadians to revolt. But the
people who revolted big time must have been an amazing amount
of stress. I mean,
it's interesting, you bring that up, because last night was and
I've recorded both episodes for you. And there's a couple more
coming and I have them recorded, I just got to figure out how to
get on the DVD as a channel for programme here called the ascent
of money. And, and they actually explain how the French
Revolution took place. And it was a situation extremely
similar to what's going on in the United States right now.
Where a guy named John Law, who was a Scotsman, who lived in
Amsterdam in in the late 1600s, early 1700s, as he was he was
like a gambler and got kicked out of out of Scotland,
whatever. And he witnessed the East India Company being formed,
which was really the first company that had shares and, and
subsequently, were traded on the first what we would call the
stock market, all in Amsterdam. And he studied this for a year
or two, and then he went to Paris, and he started the first
for all intents purposes of French central bank issued
shares and, and essentially just, you know, did what the
Federal Reserve has done in the past, you know, 80 years or
whatever, he just was printing up more shares selling him and
he owned like half of Paris, he fucking everything. And he, it
just became a bubble. And everyone was in on it. Everyone
had shares in the back bank and all of a sudden there was like,
you know, nervousness or whatever that just entered the
market the way these things do. That's more your area when it
comes cycle
and the collapse of the East Indian trading company falls
right onto one of the cycle numbers right on the money.
Exactly. So exactly.
And it was funny because I was watching this documentary, which
I think you'll enjoy it was, well, a lot different from the
things you might find on the internet, you know about the
money masters and all that. Yeah, well,
this is a piece of crap from my looking at over didn't check and
document documenting some of their claims. But but let's go.
Let's stop right here. And let me tell you one thing, straight
up, get a DVD recorder, you will not
have one. I have one. I have one. That's what do you mean?
Because I've got to connect the skybox because I recorded it on
the skybox because it's like season pass like a TiVo
automatic record. Yeah. And so I can output it. I just have to
output it and reroute it to the DVD recorder. I have one I got
one upon your recommendation. I hope by the way that it isn't
different regenerate? No,
no, no, they did they use zero on these things.
Well, good. So I got it. So you're, I'm gonna hook you up.
Okay.
Yeah, if you have their you know, my experience, generally
speaking with with equipment like this, if you buy the DVD D
recording, you actually have to connect it to something for it
to be useful.
Yeah, thanks. No. Thanks, John. I'll take your advice. I
appreciate it. But anyway, it was you're gonna talk about the
collapse of the East India Company on the cycle?
Yeah, there's I don't have in front of me. But did it fell
rich, just like a classic year. I mean, it's just bang, boom,
you know, there it is.
And I forget, but that but that in all, for all intents and
purposes was that collapse in France, of the of John loss
Central Bank, the collapse of the shares, and they were the
only shares that were being traded. And it was, it was like
any classic boom, and everybody had had their stock, and then
you know, just it came flying back. And then they, you know,
the price went from like, 9000, florins to 5000. In one day,
like this. Now we're looking to let's start about our thing, the
price of oil is now 40. Isn't that unbelievable? So anyway, I
got out of my, you know, I bought into the double short,
and you know, and Etn? No, yeah, the Etn. And which, by the way,
Andrew and I are going to do a special discount, for for sure,
we're going to charge for it on ETFs and etns. For people that
need to get catch up to this because this thing is these ETFs
in particular are just on fire in terms of the popularity. But
anyway, so I got out of my Etn at, I think I got out about 120
or so. And he went up another 15 Point cents, which is I don't
know what I mean, I was thinking that oil is gonna hit 50. And it
was gonna maybe settled in a little bit, and it dropped
another 10 Boom, was probably the guy who was the head of Iran
publicly says he, they're budgeting for oil at 30 Yeah,
and
I'm hearing that gas in a year from now actual gas at the pump
could be as low as $1 Yeah,
I find that hard to believe because, you know, we're settled
in at a Deronda $2 range has already hit, you know, around
here, I can get premium for under $2 that just hit me I just
bought something at at 201 and I saw it at 199 and I suspect it
might get down to 151 60 which is you know, which, which will
crank the economy up because people don't realise that the
price of energy has a lot to do with you know, the economic well
being of a country and because you know, the energy just like
if it's cheap, its energy. I mean, it results in direct
production of products and whatever
energy is that's the basis of everything. Yeah. So the every
single thing in our lives is all based on energy. So I'm
looking at my DTO as after I leave it and I'm and here's the
key I did some more research than usual and you know, as
opposed to my normal research was just talking to you and then
making a decision
that's the way to go.
So what was the what was the name of that? That brokerage a
banker? guy starts with a G that's like Goldman Sachs,
Goldman Sachs at Goldman Sachs B when they said something about
oil is gonna go to 200. Who do you think the largest single
holder of the Exchange Traded note? Double short oil is?
Yeah, well, there's that's that's, that's what they do.
They they by the opposite direction. They come up with a
recommendation, all the suckers I learned that the second day I
had my level two trading screen. I was reading research. I'm
like, oh, yeah, this is good. I'll invest in that. And then
Oh, my God, fuck like, Huh. And then immediately, this is a
stupid game. You know, if you're not on the inside, you can never
win.
Well, I learned this long time ago, too. I didn't really know
what I was gonna be so Blake And but I mean these guys are just
ridiculous CNBC is in on the whole game well, somebody there
is so anyway the but I learned years and years ago because you
I would always I remember there was a there during a boom of
some time back 40 years ago there was this company that was
being touted by Merrill Lynch who was always the one company
every time they were like really pushing something I was very
sceptical. They were pushing this company called Sterling
home X and Sterling home x is this company that was one there
was an era in the United States where everybody everything was
gonna go prefab remember that housing you know that was a it
was like a boom a boom let of prefabs we're gonna manufacture
all our houses and factories. And that was it called Sterling
once Sterling home x i think is STI R la ng dash home X. And
Merrill was pushing this stock like there was no tomorrow
people were bloated up with it. And then of course, the company
goes bankrupt about two weeks later, or a couple months later,
and it was just like, wait a minute, weren't you and then it
turns out that those guys were you know, on the other side of
the deal. They were out
Yeah, you know, I got a friend he said,
Where's the SEC with these scams? Where's the SEC with
Goldman Sachs telling everyone that oil is gonna go to 200
while being short?
Well, dude, they haven't even taken anyone to task over the
over the ratings agencies like Moody's, you know that? Oh, we
have a software fault for two years. I mean, there's no
there's no oversight and a doing anything. They're all in on the
on the game. Meanwhile,
Martha Stewart goes to jail. The jail.
Exactly, exactly. And they shoot an innocent guy on the Guilford
cathedral steps.
And I guess now they're going after Mark Cuban for something.
Well, we
talked about that two weeks ago. Yeah, I
know. I've been bringing it up. People are fascinated by your
theory.
Oh, about smartest guys in the room. No, no, about not so about
loose change. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Was it loose change?
And 911 loose change the second edition or final edit or
whatever the one that Sheen was? Did he actually ever wind up
doing the voiceover? I thought he did? I
don't know. I don't watch that stuff. No, I'm, I'm,
I'm pretty wary of what's going on. I think right now, you know,
now that we have the bailout is now up to $8.4 trillion, which
has been lent spent or otherwise disposed of given away. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure that this is, this is just keeping it afloat
until Obama comes in then. Boom. He's just gonna drop it all.
Because he's the he's the right guy to convey the message,
whatever it is, which I presume is going to be, you know, some
change in them on all your bases along
to us.
Yeah, for real well, you know, well, here's what's happening in
Europe. This is a very interesting way of tackling the
bailout and I think this is even funnier people are are jumping
into this headfirst. So Gordon Brown has proposed it and cost
the UK 1 billion pounds in Italy, they're already doing it.
What they're offering to homeowners is okay, you pay a
set rate so maybe 4% on your mortgage and you don't have to
pay whatever the difference is of your arm going up your
adjustable rate mortgage for you know, like a period of anywhere
from six months to two years and then of course you get a balloon
payment at the end of that the Yeah, you have to pay the piper
somewhere right
you know, I had a sense that they that this whole thing took
place prematurely you know this collapse I thought they you know
they wanted to I think that
No, I disagree I disagree it's exactly on time What mess what
they mess up was the Lisbon treaty that was supposed to be
in effect as of October so that they could do all this financial
mumbo jumbo and now what these guys are talking about is
they're operating under the Lisbon principles Don't you love
it? Yes. Well, we have to approach this under the Lisbon
principle so completely not ratified because Ireland said
no, all it is is a legal document for this and in the way
that we're freaking out about it I'm convinced John this was you
know, the timing is perfect but Europe wasn't ready for it yet
because they didn't have the Lisbon Treaty in place.
So what do you think the end result is going to be because it
seems to me that you know, I was talking about depressions this I
don't think this is leading to one I think this is gonna put it
off hopefully so I have my cycles thing fall right into
place not that I want to see a depression anyway the main
there's what you're asking you're asking a question I'm
totally convinced still that there's get we're gonna have a
boom and then LM watching guide the Kramer you know you've
received Jim Cramer Of course it'll create a man Oh, watching
that much because he makes me shake. And so you know, I think
I'm thinking I always look at the coffee and thinking it's a
coffee. I'm drinking too much coffee in there. realise that
this guy's got, you know, he's just the way he is wire, wire.
So he's, he made a couple of interesting comments, he
actually predicted, he took back a bunch of his stuff that he
said before, which he does commonly. And then he said, and
he used and in fact, they recorded I should have sent it
over to you, you could have played it a couple of moments
where he says, and then you know, what this means is when
Obama comes in, there's gonna be a boom. And he said, use the
word boom, which is what I've been thinking to, but this time,
you know, this boom will lead to a bust, and then they when the
bust happens, the real bust? You end up with no, all this money
that David thrown into the system, you're the 8 trillion,
there's no, there's nothing left. I mean, now you can do is
just that a
trillion wasn't even there. That's okay. It's gonna give you
my opinion. Here's what's going to happen. First of all, there's
a lot of rumblings now about the way that 8.4 trillion is going
to be paid for is through a value added tax the United
States, I think that's highly feasible.
We I haven't heard that much here.
So it's a it's it's a rumour on the interwebs. Oh, look, the
rest of the world does it? Yeah, yeah, we've got 17% in the
United Kingdom 19%. In most European countries, Belgium 21%
Value Added Tax. So that would be one way to get it back. But I
don't think that I'm not I don't see a boom happening. I you
know, what's happening right now is, you know, because of the
lack of, of credit facilities, farmers can't get loans to buy
fertiliser, you know, we're gonna have a supply problem.
There's just no doubt about it. There's going to be some
essential support supply problem, I think when it comes
to food. And the dollar, you know, there's no, there's no,
there's no faith in it, that's there, keep propping that up,
then when Obama is sworn in, boom, they'll drop it like a hot
potato, no more propping up with $1. And that's when the new the
new money system will come into play. And it may even be called
something else. But we will certainly have a different
reserve currency. And I'm pretty sure it's going to involve
carbon one way or the other.
Well, the carbon thing is hopefully going to be dropped.
To date. No, we're here for your crock pot prediction.
It's not that much of a crack. But once again, what is it
there's rumours now about? About the United Kingdom going to the
going to the euro? But if they wait any longer, the pound will
be equal to a euro? They
don't worry about it. Yeah, well, that's
the whole point. No, I'm I see. I seen bad times ahead. Yeah.
Yeah, I see really, really dark.
That's when that's the way he that's the way that's a typical
public attitude. At the bottom. You're at the bottom, we're at
the we're at. We're at the bottom, we're at the bottom,
this is the bottom, this is what the bottom feels like. And it
always brings up this gloom and doom thing. And so when things
start to pick up, you say, Well, I guess I was wrong, and then
you'd you'll jump in at the wrong time during the boom. And
then that's when they that's when they pulled the rug out
from under everybody. And they did to the public has to be
involved. I mean, the public has to take it up to shorts. That's
the way it always works. And, you know, the, in this
situation, there's banks and all this other stuff the public is,
you know, and so far has been taxpayers are concerned had been
getting screwed, but we don't have the real sense of being
personally screwed over. Which is really necessary to really do
this. Right.
Well, what are you talking about? Of course, people are
screwed over the 401 k's are hoes that getting kicked out of
their homes? What do you mean, the public is very much? Oh, no.
I mean, the number of people that are getting kicked out of
their homes as minimal as played up a lot in the media. And
there's a lot of houses for sale that have never really, you
know, there's a whole development up north of me here
that was built out and then just before they were going to start
selling them, the whole thing collapsed. And now they're
trying to give these places away. But the problem is, is
nobody's moving into starting to deteriorate. It's kind of
interesting to watch something like this go downhill, because
they can't maintain it. So now weeds are growing everywhere.
And you know,
I saw a documentary on on that. There are companies now that
that go around all these houses and they you know, I guess the
bank hires him, and they drain the swimming pools that have
become you know, cesspools of mosquitoes, they they paint the
lawns. In some cases,
they paint the lawns green. Now, that way, when you fly over, it
doesn't look you
know, when you drive by you can't tell it's like, Oh, that's
nice.
That's the dirt green. They probably did. It's actually not
a bad idea if you can get some kind of paint or some sort of
substance that you can spray on dirt. That would also have like
a weed killer and so you don't have the weeds popping through
this stuff. That's not a bad thought. I like it. I wonder
what the maybes Somebody out there knows about this if that's
you know how they're doing this because that's not a bad idea
anyway I have in my notes that after a new president was
elected the stock market supposed to go crazy in a
positive way that was your prediction which is not taking
place
it's not no and when he gets in he has to be in
Okay. Boy, are you going to be disappointed?
I don't think so. I think it the day gets in this thing is going
to start to move
the fundamentals aren't there John fundamentals we anything we
haven't as a country America has already had a $10 trillion debt
in four months it's almost doubled. Yeah, China is not
going to lend us any more money they've lost billions
I'm just telling you we'll wait and see till January and then
I'll get to like did I you know, I know No, no, I think was
saying
no, no, no. Pakistan and India have something to do with the
strategy Well, there's the there's something and and that
would be mainly because doesn't the sort of the Chinese have a
pact with Pakistan? I think they've been pretty their
neighbours first of all, but they've
been the Russians have a pact with the India and they were
selling him the latest news they're selling and Russia have
nuclear reactors and for power and
what does Pakistan have does Pakistan have any anything in
the ground?
No, I mean oil. Yeah. So I think ended on you know, hard labour
to do what they do I don't know. I do know this by the way just
as an aside if you buy basmati rice by the Pakistani ones as
opposed to the Indian ones, it's just a cleaner product by timing
by five washings at least really? Yeah. Well, they have
these Muslim cleanliness laws in the food business. And so they
don't let you know they just they're not as careless as the
Hindus No offence to the Hindus out there but the rice that I
mean this is just like the stores we have over here there's
a couple of Hindu stores and a couple of Pakistani stores and
this Pakistani stores are generally cleaner even though
they tend to scowl scowl at Yeah, but the rice with the rice
we're not generalising at all no the rice but the rice is what
you get the use of basmati rice which is the which of course
takes a special technique to cook which people don't seem to
understand. Well I'll document this document it's boiled it's a
boiled rice it's not it's not like a Chinese rice where you
would like typically with rice you Chinese style cooking rice
take a long grain rice and you put like a cup of rice and one
and a half to two cups of water and then you slowly boil it and
then the water all the water in the pot sucks into the rice
there's no water left and the Pakistani or I'm sorry the
basmati style rice which is a different rice altogether. Which
is more fragrant, it's a very different rice is boiled. So you
take a cup of rice in and you put it in like a gallon and a
half or two gallons of water and you boil the crap out of it
until it's just just one second away it's like gets the oil
dented just a little bit almost finished but not quite. And then
you dump the water out down the drain and then you by the way
the rice has to be washed two or three times before you cook it
and then soaked for like 15 or 20 minutes. Only the soaking I
think is optional, but the argument is that it keeps the
grains from breaking when it's been cooked. But anyway, so then
you dump the water out and then you put the rice back in the pot
and then you cover it with a towel and then you let it steam
to completion and then it'll be it's the most perfect rice there
is it's unbelievable and then that technique is just like was
I think derided as boiled rice some data no during the War
World War One and so nobody who's no Americans and I can
guarantee no French people know how to use this technique to
cook rice and that's the way you cook basmati rice.
Have You Ever Have you ever had Indonesian rice tafel
yeah I have
because the the rice you described there sounded a bit
like like that it
could be I mean, I don't know I never asked but I first picked
up this recipe from when I went to we went to this by the way
and then while it's steaming under the towel, you can put
some butter in it and then let the butter kind of melt and and
you stir it in gently afterwards and it's you generally get it so
that almost a grains are almost individual. So if you could like
lifted up with a fork and all these pieces perfectly cooked
would just fall you know all over the place. You've made me
hungry now it's delicious. I think there's no rice I don't
even buy anything Quick, the whole process for making basmati
rice rice disparate and you put saffron into the liquid you can
get you do different things. Man, there's nothing
like Uncle Ben's, you open that open that pack two inches, throw
it in the microwave for two minutes from butter boom.
The whole process for making basmati rice is about a 12 to 15
minute process. And I just I'm always amused by Uncle Ben's
instant rice, which takes his long, and the rice has been
really clean of any nutrients. And it's horrible and as mushy
and it's terrible. No people should learn how to cook and
this. I could call it Iranian style. Rice. The Iranians are
the ones who do this rice the best. They're fanatics about it,
they have a lot of different kinds of variations of the rice
that grow rice in Iran and a couple of areas where they make
some killer Rice's that are just, you know, impossible to
get a hold of. And
it's it's very hard to produce. But the opportunity is is very
apparent, John, that there's going to be a lot of demand for
quick, simple, yet elegant, good tasting meals in a cooking show.
You're almost the perfect candidate for it, you know?
Yeah, well, I can do the rice, that's for sure. The funny thing
about rice, which is always amused me is that the Europeans
had never really got a clue. I mean, there weren't a rice
culture. And they have like, you know, yeah, you can get the
risotto, which is a stirred, you know, kind of gooey rice that
you make.
If you get the wrong risotto. It's really really horrible.
Yeah, and it's and even when if it's right is not that good. And
I mean, it's interesting. It's kind of kind of a filling
because it's so starchy. I've had really
good risotto in in two restaurants, both in in the
United Kingdom Of all places where the risotto was always on
the menu, Gordon's restaurant and what the hell's his name? It
will come to me, as well as the Okay, I'm two for two. Just two
restaurants. I've had it like,
Man, I had this great wine last night divorce. Oh, you would
have was
I don't record and Ramsay's restaurant Yeah. But they eat it
here all the time. It's like It's like the favourite dish you
know, the the favourite appetiser?
Well, it's not you know, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to eat.
I mean, but it's not a rice dish by any means. At least the way I
think about it with the Asian rice is and you know, we most
people hear cooked rice Chinese style, some people cook Japanese
style, which is a gooey rice that can be that forms long
sticks sticks together a little bit more. Yes, sticky, sticky
rice. And but most people cook Chinese style or they you know,
remember you know, there's different ways of doing it. And
it's always the same which is, you know, with and typically
with long grain rice is grown in California or Texas. And it's
not just people then go and they'll buy some basmati rice
and cook it that way. And it is just terrible. I mean, for one
thing, they never washed it enough boss monitor rice and
he's a lot of washing stuff. The Pakistani stuff doesn't need
half as much. And they never soak it and then they it's just
anybody because at first time I when I was in college, I was
fascinated by my understanding. Well, boss monitor is the
world's best. I didn't know how to cook it. And so I cooked it
Chinese style. And then I said this is the worst rice
imaginable. It stinks. I mean, it was horrible. And I never
went back to it until I just rediscovered it at an Iranian
restaurant.
I don't think I've ever really had rice that I thought was
horrible. Honestly. Oh,
keep try cooking basmati rice, Chinese style. You'll, you'll
see. I mean it's unbelievable. Right. Anyway, that's my rice
story. I'm sticking to it.
The Supreme Court is now handling the question to Obama's
birth certificate. Oh,
really? Yeah. I wonder would happen if it turns out that he
wasn't born in Hawaii, the whole thing was a scam. And he was
actually born in Kenya.
We think about a what do we can't turn on your speaker a
little bit, John. I mean, you don't have headphones onto you
know,
bounced back too much. Okay. Yeah,
they got a little bit. We don't know anything about this guy.
And I really don't, ya
know, I know we don't we do know that he's picked all the old
cronies to be in his cabinet. And
I was looking into Richard gates his background who was is the
current Defence Secretary, you know who you worked for? Back in
the 70s who is a big new
Brzezinski Yeah, you're but yeah, yeah. Yeah, makes sense.
He's got he's the inside guy then. Wow, nice. It just Bronski
and didn't one of this you know, just make him his chief of staff
and get it over with
now he's Like he's he's pulling the strings, man. That's what he
does. That's what he's the he's the big kahuna, big man on
campus. He's making it all happen.
Yeah, apparently. So we'll see. We're gonna get a boom and then
a bust.
Now we're gonna go down further. The next bottom is 7286. And
then I'm calling Dow. 6000. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, you and a couple friends of mine is calling dow 6000. I'm
not seeing it.
I mean, we got it, we got to break through this. We got to
break through this barrier first and this this wishy washy up and
down 300 points per day. This just so and now we're going to
bail out the auto company bailout man. Is this
unbelievable? Or have you followed any of that?
Of the here? And I molesky? No, I have I should have been
listening to the hearings. But I mean, these guys are whining on
it too much for my taste. But you know, the fact of the matter
is they bail out first aid. You know, they bail out these
financial institutions. And then the car companies get screwed in
the deal because these guys hoard the money. And the car
companies so they don't just hoard it, they launch it looking
for free money like these other guys.
Hey, it was funny. During one of the hearings, they kept saying
bailout bailout and then actually one of the auto people
corrected himself and said I mean loan. We were asking for
this bailout, I mean loan. And as my favourite. I drove a
hybrid car here today. So they've learned right, they're
all putting their corporate jets up for sale and I drove a hybrid
here, I drove a Chrysler hybrid test vehicle.
There's a piece of news that came out claiming that the only
reason they were flying corporate jets was and they
couldn't fly commercial is for security reasons. Break the
government thing is so you find that guy's a CEO of GM and you
got something wrong with your car. That's sad, and I bought a
piece of crap. What are you gonna do about it? You know,
they wouldn't be security reasons they'd be harassed on
the aeroplane, I suppose. I don't know. I saw Bill Gates fly
commercial. And, you know, he was the world's richest man at
that time. Nobody was gonna be the only once in a while
somebody come up to him. I was on a plane once with Jimmy
Carter. Jimmy Carter has got the right approach. And because I
talked to the stewardesses about it afterwards, and for one thing
it was took me forever to get to the airport that traffic was a
mess. I couldn't figure out what the deal was. So I get to the
airport. I'm on his plane to Atlanta delta. And Jimmy Carter
is on the plane. And Jimmy Carter, he gets on the plane
group course that meant their security was screwing up the
roads, you know, anyway, so Jimmy Carter. He's booked in
first class with a couple of Secret Service guys, babes. A
couple of babes here. It'd be nice but NO. Jimmy Carter goes
through the plane and introduces himself to every single
passenger. Seriously, he goes down one aisle and he takes you
know, he doesn't really because he shakes hands with everybody
and says hi. You know, you may you know, have heard of me kind
of thing. Earlier have heard of me, and he comes back around and
then he comes back around the other way and he meets me and I
talked to him for a couple seconds. You know, yeah, how you
doing? You know, it's good young playing and whatever, forgot
what I said it was something stupid. And so then he goes back
and he sits down and I talked to the stewardess about to sort of
just what's the deal with him coming in key and she said this
I thought was genius. She said Carter comes on the plane that
everyone knows he's on the plane. So he introduces himself
to everybody on the plane by the way, she's been on a number of
planes with them. So we're talking 200 passengers are just
in first class no 200 passengers he goes at the end of the whole
thing takes about half an hour half an hour at least. Yeah. But
his during the you know, the ramp UPS was not like you know,
he introduces himself to everybody on the plane she says
because once they know it'll bother over not gonna bother him
because before that people would come up and when his autograph
and they went this and that, you know, and they he couldn't get
any sleep he likes to sleep on the plane. And so now he does
this and I thought what it was it was a great idea and I think
everyone who's that famous, although I don't think there's
too many in that category should just do the same thing. It was
actually kind of cool.
No Well, we'll typically celebrities don't introduce
themselves to anyone on the plane get hammered. Grab the
stewardess his ass and then wind up fighting and arrested and
diverting to another airport. That's pretty much the way it
usually works. Yeah. Certainly with the supermodels. I flew on.
When Fergie was still married to Andrew, she flew British Airways
when she was still a member of the royal family. Yeah, to New
York, I think what happened
to her she was like trying to become a celebrity in the United
States and eventually just became, you know, yeah, it
was she did Jenny Craig. She made a lot of money in that and
she wrote a book and she made money on that and I think she
did a video made money on that. And there was a kind of reality
type Docu drama on her a couple months back here. It was at her
home. It was like living With Fergie. So yeah, I would have to
say she gets pushed away into the archives. Yeah, the Royal
for good reason she I saw her in one talk show once and she
seemed you know, like a wacky that typical high upper class
boring British style of you know,
she was she was no Diana man. I'll tell you that
person that wasn't of any interest to anybody. She seemed
like a nice enough person but she didn't seem to have much
going on.
Now, as you wind up on Celebrity Rehab you
already read about Celebrity Rehab. I understand that our
friend Amy Winehouse is about to die in rehab or somebody she's
sports a John,
it is a cold day in hell when you're ahead of Amy Winehouse
news. What is going on?
Dave? Dave Good came over here. I mean, normally we don't get a
lot of Amy Winehouse stuff unless she's on death's
doorstep. And that was kind of the fee or maybe what it was was
I was too lazy. I lost my remote control. And I ended up watching
extra which is one of the shows on television extra extra and
you know, which is all
flat, flashy gossipy stuff. Yeah.
Most of its paid for, you know, pay pay for gas to pay for the
minute and I think she was mentioned as something wrong
with her
at the seams seems to be a couple of news articles. Let's
see. Amy Winehouse still hospitalised this hobby sent
back to jail.
Now there's a there's a headline for you. This is what you don't
want. You just want to read this about yourself.
Is the definition of a bad day. Yeah, yeah, it's been
hospitalised since November 23. Yeah, that's a shame because
she's a talent.
Well, you know, you can only apparently she's got to know who
knows.
Blame it on the Afghani drug trade.
Yeah, without actually getting involved with those drugs. So
what else going on over there? Is there anything that in the EU
happening I mean, I guess the Lisbon Treaty is like I was
there was a special on me was watching BBC America and they'd
like they're the Irish or, you know, they're trying to resell
them on the on another vote and they have oh, yeah, no, no,
yeah. They promised why they should be voting. Yes. How much
good as gonna do the Irish weren't even in World War Two.
For God's sake, they're pretty much isolationists.
Well, that's one of the main reasons because they felt that
they didn't want to be locked into some kind of tax scheme,
your Europe wide, and they definitely did not want to be a
part of a European army, which, of course, is exactly the two
things that are in this treaty.
I vote against it again.
I don't think so. Man, people are so stupid. They'll they'll,
they'll do a whole media blitz, they'll really work it and I
don't think they can. Although
Do you think the Irish can be convinced that is good for them
to sign off on this deal?
I think that they know. But I do believe that whatever they do
for in the referendum, I'm sure they can get the votes they
need. It was close enough. You know, now we are getting a new
EU president the check this check guy who is actually he
seems pretty interesting. He's he's pretty much spoken out
against the Lisbon Treaty.
Specifically, when m is a boss for it doesn't make any sense.
Well, it's it rotates. You know, that's one of the things they
wanted to stop in the treaties. They wanted to have one
president you know, none of this rotating ship because clearly,
you know, that doesn't fit the agenda. So, it's, it's not
well, I know it's going to be responsible for world war three.
Okay, hit me.
I just got to be at some point. You know, there's still
animosity, cultural animosity between a lot of these
countries. You know, ever since, you know, the 10
I take you right back, you know, it's not going to happen between
the European countries. It's going to happen between it's
going to be India, Pakistan is going to be China with Pakistan,
the US and Europe with India. I'm not quite sure how Russia
fits in where they're gonna fit in. But I think it's I think
it's those big three I think that's that's what's brewing
that's what's happening in the background. Everyone's got to be
pissed at each other about the money system and and that whole
region, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, India, that's that's
the next theatre as far as
places always they're always battling each other. I don't see
that as causing the kind of mess that you get when the Germans
and the French go at it.
Man, would that be funny to see that happen?
You know, could happen? Yeah. I mean, but you might be, you
know, but we have to remember that media has changed a lot in
the van, the public has, you know, reacts differently than
they used to, to things and I don't know. But, normally, but
here's I'm just looking at from an historical perspective, these
Europeans are always fighting with each other, you know, and
they get into this pretty nasty, you know, it gets pretty bad.
I, what I'm seeing is this just this it's all lacklustre. You
know, no one gives a shit no one wants to fight. No one wants to
do anything. I'd take you right back to I want I'm a celebrity.
Get me out of here. That's all people want. They want to drink.
They want to, you know, they want to watch TV, and then they
want to see the football game. And that's about it. People
don't give a shit. They just let it all happen. No one's paying
attention. What happens when everyone's talking about Amy
Winehouse when
including us? What happens when the Muslims get majority control
of France? That'd be interesting.
Well, this is already happening all over Europe, because people
are so lethargic and sick in the Netherlands. Great example. You
know, I hear people complain all the time. Oh, man, we got more
scarves in in our in our government than than we have on
our street corners. What's going on here? Well, you lazy bastards
you didn't run for for anything. You didn't vote you didn't run
for anything. And you know, these people who did the smart
say, hey, shit, you know, there's an opportunity. I'm
going to represent my community boom, they're in they get voted
for it's the same everywhere. Well, throughout Europe. It's
the same in the States. No, no one sticks up and says, Oh, I'm
gonna run run for for mayor or Senate or governor or anything,
you know, because they actually have any ideals.
Yeah, people don't run much. They should run more. They bid
you a lot you feel could complain. My suspect? Where's
the my story?
The organisation of like the Democratic Party, you know,
where all the the field offices? And where's the Organisation for
the Republican Party? Yes, sure. We can. We've got the Obama
bots, and they've got the little email network and stuff. But
really people who care and are out there and doing stuff that
doesn't exist anymore, John?
Well, not you mentioned it. I don't know where these things
are. I mean, there's like a back room somewhere. And then they'll
just you know, the, these guys that are just perpetual
politicians move into an area they take over the town, and
they started to rob it. And nobody seems to notice. I'm in
the state of California and they use the media was as a matter of
fact, we were so broke. And then somebody pointed out that we
double our size of government, even though we're in debt over
the last few years, and it's like, what's it and there's
every time there's of scandals, always some middlemen that are
like the school systems around here are top heavy with
bureaucrats and they're getting credible salaries and the one
little city that went out of business, Vallejo went bankrupt.
And then they revealed what they were paying in these these,
these people. That mean, the chief of police was making like
a half a million dollars, and these other guys are deputy.
Were making 400,000 a year and clerks were making hundreds of
1000s. And it's like they were robbing these idiots. Yep.
Just like the $8.4 trillion robbery. You're all idiots.
It's a complete robbery. And you can't even get somebody like
McCain who was running in it who could have you know, positioned
himself against all this stuff. He was part of the sellout he
was like part just just as stooge was ridiculous. No wonder
he couldn't even come close to winning.
So can we fix it? No,
we're screwed.
Totally hosed. I can't even get into the Christmas spirit. I
have no Christmas spirit going on. Well, surely. No, it's not.
They they put the lights on in the town. And everyone's in, you
know, they got the bells out in the Santos know that doing their
thing. And it's probably this deflationary spiral, or whatever
it is, wherever you stay in Indore, you know, it's just
nothing's going on. It seems like total deadlock? I don't
know, man. Well, I
remember last week, we made our predictions about the Black
Friday.
Did you get the actual numbers? It probably wasn't that bad. Was
it? No,
it was good. Actually, I had predicted was gonna go down. 5%
you predicted 2020? It actually went up. Depending on who you
talk to between five and 7%. Up? It went
up between five and 7%. Yeah, unreal. That's where those
numbers come from. Who produces that?
I know. They come from here and they're probably the commerce
do. You
don't think that's important?
I mean, their numbers are, I don't know where the numbers
come from off the top of my head. I could look it up and
find out and I'm sure that you know, since everyone uses these
numbers, and from what I could tell Because I went you know
looked around these places we're doing a hell of a business three
people were killed
that I was gonna say that's the thing we should do next season
we have to do the body count to count god man you know people
just they so they break the door down. This guy is squashed
underneath the door that just running over the door. And then
and then everyone's in the guy's dead. squashed like a bug wash
and then and then they want to close the store and people say
no, screw you, man. We want our cheap X Xbox 360 Yeah, we don't
give a shit if he's dead. I got a deal here. There's only a
couple left.
And it's like the other thing was is like the there's
something about the Walmart employees had locked arms.
Thinking what are these guys working minimum wage locked arms
against that angry crowd of people bearing torches trying to
kill Frankenstein? And you're locking arms? Hell, I'm getting
out of the way.
They must be chipped at Walmart. There's no other way.
Yeah, no, it makes no sense that these people were pushing in,
they're gonna bust down the doors. I'm you know, you people
got to get a little more experienced with crowd behaviour
now dangerous. Moving crowd is I mean, this is particularly I
mean, get killed.
While also a lot of people don't know about the corporate culture
of Walmart, which is indeed very cult like and a little bit
scary. They have these huge company meetings and
auditoriums. Whenever people travel, including the highest
executives in the company, they stay at really cheap hotels
slash motels. They sleep to people to a room. It's all about
cutting costs. And it's a very, it's kind of a, like a
militaristic culture in a way.
You know, I've run into other companies, there's a number of
them that I used to go to trade shows a lot. You know, so yeah,
well, I met to such such and such motel here in Las Vegas and
San Juan, she's one of the main places well, yeah, they put us
up because we got a real good deal. And because we're two
people to a room. And I'm thinking, I'm thinking more
along the lines of a typical liability issue. I mean, if
you're starting to put two people in a room and you're a
corporation, and you irresponsibly put two people in
a room, and one of them happens to be, you know, a paedophile or
rapist, you know, or just a masher or somebody, you know,
just the risks, there are just, you know, are weighed. I mean,
it's out of control. I mean, you do whatever 10 cents you saved,
could be wiped out, you know, 100 fold, but the lawsuit about
somebody, you know, doing something throwing up, I mean,
there's a million possibilities that you lack of privacy. I
mean, it's just I've never
ever heard of any problems like that with Walmart. And they've
been doing this for a long time, the shooter person? Well, the
Walmart poli sci is always on the on the lookout, of course,
what just I'm just saying, I think it's a bad idea. If you're
spending, you know, send less people. I mean, if you're
bending the view, You're so cheap that you have to put
people in a crappy motel to up once you put three in there
while you're at it, you know, get a roll away and get a roll
away. Always have a roll away, every place has a roll away, you
can get a third person there, once you go that far. You know,
it just makes no sense to me that these these companies do
that. I mean, there are ways to get it. I mean, another
possibility for I've always thought this was a good
recommendation instead of you know, it's dictating what people
should be doing with their travel budget, give them a
travel budget of X amount of money, and let them spend it to
when they figure it out. They want to double up to save money
so they can have some leftover at the end of the year for the
travel budget. Fine.
MTV used to do that. It was Viacom then. Yeah. You know, so
you could split the cost of a first class ticket and Take
someone with you go coach, there was all kinds of things that
they did. That was it was kind of cool that way.
Yeah, I think it's a good policy. And it did lets people
be creative and take you know, and it also is less work for the
company. You just have to You're just responsible for ending up
in Vegas. You have to be there for some show, let's say. And
you can stay wherever you want. You know, if you want to stay at
the Bellagio, go ahead. If you got to, you know, you feel like
throwing money at it. Or you can get a deal. I mean, why should
it all be determined by the corporation? Putting everybody
up in the same stupid motel, so they can share a ride?
It's all for the cost. It's all for the company. Hey, look, they
link arms. You don't think that was a bad idea? Boy. 1000s OF
ENVIRONMENTAL campaigners marched on Westminster today to
demand more to be done to combat climate change. My view is
a dead horse.
So their their governments robbing them blind making them
poor. The let's go march for climate change. There's some
screwed up priorities there. Oh, it's about the third runway at
Heathrow, of course,
oh yeah. Oh, that's just as a Windows things are always just a
scam, you know, you get a group together and your pressure
Heathrow about the third runway until you get bought off.
You know, a lot of you can make money out of that,
oh, I mean, this was the there's a lot of these pressure groups
that do nothing more than go into a corporation with with a,
you know, with a lot large contingent of idiots that, you
know, go along with the programme, you know, these
protesters, and then they go into a corporation and the next
thing you know, they have a big contribution to their
organisation, and then they go off to some other corporates,
don't bother these people. I mean, this was always the
accusation against Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition,
that he was essentially you know, it's a legal form of
extortion and go from one company to another and claim
that you know, you're looking into this or that and then
either, you know, get told to shove off and you need to get
out there should do it. You know, it's a lot of it's a
bluff. Oh, oh, you protest against the thing, you make a
big stink of the company of black eye. And it's not worth
the company's you know, PR our efforts they've just assumed
give you the money to good way to make a living if you want to,
but you guys just gonna
say yeah, my brain is spinning. I'm in overdrive here like oh
opportunity,
as a real good way to make a living. I mean, if you can, if
you have the lack of scruples to do it, but ya know, this this
when you see something like this about Heathrow but the runway, I
guarantee why we can't guarantee but 90% There's a good chance
that is some buddies operation that needs to get you know, a
little more funding let's say they give us a little donation
if you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, I hear ya, I hear well anyway, just to finalise UK
NEWS, the they did their annual Queen's speech or whatever, and
then they present what laws they want to put into effect. Which
includes lots more CCTV coverage all over the all over the
country, and how much more can they put in? You'd be amazed the
big drive, so you know, you know they're on this this
prostitution thing we talked about last week. Now they want
to change the licencing laws where lap dancing clubs are now
deemed as places of sexual encounter which there you go
that's the Queen calling which we saw this happens every week.
A call back and a half an hour.
Yeah, man 15 minutes I'm done with it. Anyway,
John, I think that was a that was a solicitor Oh, really?
Yeah.
I just got a lawyer solicitor
we don't have lawyers solicitors No, the thing is you know these
boiler rooms are so blank now that when they pick up when you
when they say you know usually they mispronounce your name is
this John depends on you know, you know, they look at it they
obviously didn't think much about because it comes up on the
computer screen if anybody wants to know how these things Hello
was Mr. Day, look at the wrong amigo. Raka and they said, What
am I going to say to this guy? Dad? vara it divorce? Yeah,
that's what I always say whenever they pronounced that's
fine. highly
annoying. is T Mobile does this a lot AT and T does it as well.
I'm sure all carriers do it. So you're in a foreign country, and
you get a text message which costs you Oh, yeah. Right. You
know, and that's like when an Xbox 360 or What the fuck is
that? Stop it cost me money to receive this stupid message. And
you'd think that they would. It's not that hard to figure out
that I'm in a different country. Maybe not a good time to bother
me.
It's hilarious. Well, anyway, so you could show these people pick
up and it's all computerised. By the way, I worked in a boiler
room once when I was in college. And what was cool about it is
that I one thing I learned one scam which is not on the boiler
room side, but on the corporate side, there was some company
that bought a bunch of huge buy of a bunch of tickets to some
Warriors game for the benefit of some, you know, the firemen or
something and then they called you guys to unload them know,
they know they bought the tickets, and then they they when
you went to deliver something, you you gave them a receipt. I
could I wish I could remember the details it was too long ago
but that you gave him the receipt and then they they had
to return the tickets they wouldn't pay and they kept half
of the receipts so they lost it. Oh, no. Yeah. So they kept it so
they basically took it and I mentioned this to my supervisor.
Oh yeah, those guys they do that every year. And so but anyway,
so I was the number one sales guy for one day, and digas like
just everybody was buying and then of course the random number
theory came to pass it turns out was just a random number event.
It because I was like couldn't sell anything after that was
weird. But, but the thing about old fashioned boiler rooms is
they weren't as noisy as the ones today. So when these people
call you like this, let's call it got you to pick it up. And it
sounds like they're at it at a football stadium. I mean,
there's so much ambient noise. Because these guys are so cheap,
they can't put people in a save and
get good. Yeah, soundproof booths are good headsets. And
they always wait, you know, because they have systems in
place. Where if, if an answering machine picks up they know it's
an answering machine, right? So I'm always all if I get an
unidentified number, I'm always trying to answer in one of those
ways that I can pretend to be an answering machine. Hello. And
then I wait. I'm not here right now. If I say Hi, I'd like to
say something I'm not here right now.
Here if you could have like some hope that when you hit she hit a
button but yeah, but anyway, there's too much of this there
dude, these these collars there and they're all done on the
obviously the same, you know, computerised system that we're
wrapping through and you know, then you always have the one
where it rings and you pick it up and there's they never pick
it up. Because the the machine has cycled on to the next number
somebody else picked up before you did and then you have one
clerk that selling and and then they always and then you have
the other thing that's kind of amusing is they all work off
scripts. Yeah. And so your whatever you tell them that you
have a branch you know that if he says no here, it didn't go to
page three and and then they start picking up the script
again, and they start reading it. And these guys are very
insistent in boiler rooms that you read from the script. So my,
if I'm bored, once in a while, I'll start to chat with the guy
because I know it's killing him and try to get him off script as
best I can. So I had this guy call me a couple of weeks ago,
selling of all things wine. Oh boy. And so I hope
you are the wrong guy that call on that day.
Well, the guy was a jerk too. And I looked up this company and
I should look it up and tell everybody what it is because he
ever get called by these guys is places ridiculous they sell
unknown this was in this case, it was an unknown little known
Grob wine, which is one of the cheapest wines you can get in
the Bordeaux area that typically any Grob and the absolute best
year. If you pay 20 bucks, you pay too much. And generally
speaking get them for 12 bucks a decent bottle and he had some
grovelling and he was picked by this guy and famous guy and this
and that and he went on and under $35 A bottle and you
should buy five cases. Five cases I don't even ever heard of
this winery. Stocks last and the guys really add him in oil. I
don't think you know anything about wine. That's the problem
is you did you'd buy this Brian immediately. You know, it washes
washes by a case. You know, I'm thinking like I was baffled by
the fact that so now I'd like to taste the wines I get there's a
lot of white wine stores all around me that get better deals
in this by a lot. And he went on and on and on and on in any she
Junie did he became like the I think he had a supervisor
watching him because he will I couldn't get rid of him. And he
you know, I had to actually hang up at some point. And so he was
obviously being tested. Somebody was watching him is every move.
So did you actually get to lay in the room? Did he?
scam and you know all you don't know anything about anything?
And he always had some sort of snarky answer and he got he got
mad at me for being an idiot. You know, this is a sales thing
where the universe is sweet talk to person and you change your
mind your approach because you never know some people might
like to be abused. So as a last ditch effort, you start
insulting the person and maybe Okay, I'll buy I'll buy stop
insulting me. I don't know what that's after.
Remember that next time I'm at an advertising ad. Hey, you
idiot. You don't know how good we are. You don't even deserve
to be advertising in our programming dammit.
So anyway, and then the guy said something else. And I said, I
said well, I say Can I buy and I just hung up on him because I
couldn't take it anymore. Because he was not going to get
he wasn't going to recognise the fact that I wasn't going to buy
a under any circumstances. And he was wasting his own time he
supposed to be making money as a salesperson. I had to assume
that there was somebody he was just being trained or something.
I don't know what it was. But if anyone out there ever gets a
phone call about wine, do not ever buy wine from some
solicitor online you're going to get ripped off all right, man. I
think we're done. Yeah, we could be done.
I do want to remind everybody that seeing and this is the the
holiday season. Please since you probably can't find it on
television anymore. Maybe maybe one or two stations still
running but you should definitely have a look at It's A
Wonderful Life. With Jimmy Stewart very recognisable story
these days.
So we have some T shirts by the way, our front we do not our
friend at angry shirts
is oh from angry fair calm.
Yeah, go to english.com you actually go to no agenda? Yeah,
dots got angry shirts.
really.com Yeah. Okay, this whole mess up the connection.
Oh, I see. 1695
Yeah. Hey,
I like the logo. Let me just copy that we get now we have a
logo.
Yeah, he said he sent me a note saying, you know, I just made a
bold logo because you guys apparently don't have one. But
we do know. It's true. We do now. Great. So it's
pretty funny. Like these. What is this proud citizen of Gitmo
nation? That's funny. I like it.
Yeah. So do and I decided what we should do is you're going to
bring a commemorative t shirt, these are limited editions,
we're going to roll them out for a month or two maybe. And then
we're going to just do a new one and newer, and the old ones are
going to be discontinued and is going to you know, hopefully,
they can get people to collect them.
So here's the only thing shouldn't there be a URL or
something or someplace to go to maybe on the back of the t
shirt? Is it only on the front now we're
gonna get that one and it makes it that way. i This is a test. I
just want to do something simple. So it would be you know,
people would wonder what it wasn't an as you might have to
ask the guy wearing the shirt. What the hell is that? What do
you mean proud? Nation? What are you talking about?
proud citizen of what? What is this?
So then they said, Well, there's a pod shown him no agenda you
can go to, you can find it@curry.com And you know, blah,
blah, blah. Dork dork.org get dark Dev org.org/blog I guess
you could have put that on there. But no.
All right, man. You really got to turn on your speaker next
time. I get a lot of slap back. It's interesting. You don't use
headphones.
I do use headphones when I do the tech five and some other
stuff it would when I'm doing these back and forth podcasts
that it's just easier for me not to
I should try that next time.
And it's an hour and 10 minutes and you know, is it with the
headphones on? I mean, it's just like your ears gets sweaty, you
get fungus
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