Two times in one week, we can go on meeting each other like this.
Coming to you from the eastern side of the nation, formerly
known as gizmo nation now abomination in the United
Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.
And in northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
John, how you doing? Good. Two times in a week, man, this is
amazing.
Yeah, we could probably do a daily use. You mentioned that
before.
I was just thinking about that before the show. I'm thinking if
we just had a phone bridge set up, or just I mean, the whole
problem is just where we are at any given moment, but we should
certainly be able to do something once a day.
Yeah, we should. So it looks like the election, State Senate.
In fact, by the way, state senate district 14 out of
Denver. Okay.
I have not been following this election.
Yeah, they candidate bacon. Beat fries.
Yes, I saw the picture. That was very funny. Bacon beats fries.
Man doesn't get any nuttier than that. Actually. It does.
Actually. I called you yesterday, man. I said, Did you
actually I called you while I was taking place. I wanted to
watch it with you. The first press conference by our
president elect.
Yeah, I got to see some excerpts from it. It's hard to believe it
was a press conference. And
no, it wasn't it was a scripted hootenanny. And did you see
Axelrod leaning against the wall the whole time? Campaign?
Yeah. Now,
I'm sorry. Go ahead. He's there to you know, as he's, he'll be
the sergeant at arms and punish anyone who disobeyed.
Exactly. It was like Obama. Guy is so good at reading off of his
his notes. He just glances down. And he's real, real comfortable
with doing it. And I paid a lot of tension to it. And so he did
the whole thing yesterday, I think pretty much just from his
notes, no teleprompter. I didn't see anything. But even when it
came to the questions, you know, he was kind of like, you know,
like the President's like to do Yeah, go ahead, Helen. Yeah.
Troy, you couldn't say something now. But every single time and I
paid specific attention to it. He was looking down his paper.
And one point he even said, let me see who's next here. Yeah,
Bill, your next. And you know, didn't call on any heavyweights?
Like the Washington Times or didn't call on Fox News that was
pointed out? I saw earlier today. It was it was like
scripted questions, scripted answers. And he from time to
time, he would actually look down on his notes.
Yeah, it seemed like he was looking down a lot to answer the
question. She said that was peculiar. Of course, the media
didn't call him on this. And you know, it'll give you can get
away with it. Let's say I'm Axelrod and I said, Look, why
don't we just script the whole thing. Only call the people we
want and see what happens. I mean, you can assume that if
George Bush pulled a stunt like this to immediately be all
over it crazy, yelling, they'd be so angry.
Yeah. But now these guys are all in in bed with him.
What? What was pretty funny is that he spent the most time
answering the question about the White House dog.
Yeah, you might as well trivialise the whole thing. Some
listen to one of the right wing talk shows in the sky,
Breitbart, who was doing this show for somebody, and who's got
his website, and he got he was proud of the fact that he and I
just thought was hilarious. He got the domain name. I think
it's Barack Obama and
Barack Obama.
Like, because you know, he's always going, you know, he's
saying all the time. So it's now Bama. I do that on to the guy.
No, but you don't have the name. Curry. Adam curry, Adam curry.
From the what I loved about that. I'm looking at the
Financial Times Weekend Edition. I haven't read it yet. But I'm
just looking at the front page, the homepage as we call it.
There we go. We're over a Barack Obama. And there's a picture of
Barack Obama at this press conference yesterday. And I love
the sign the office of the president elect that's just too
funny.
Yeah, no, it's
just it's not there's no real office. Is there known as the
office or elect? That's that's humorous. Little little
presidential seal. Oh, man. What a show what an what an amazing
show. And have you seen these people who are in his transition
team? Did you see these people?
Yeah, they're all a bunch of you know, old style hard political
Hell yeah, they're there that this was supposed to be some
change,
you know? And ROM, what's his name? Emmanuelle? This guy?
This guy he's guy looks mean. Ah,
you know, he reminds me of a all only evil.
He does have an evil look. Yeah, it's totally
evil look, and I believe that in them in an Israeli newspaper,
they were saying, Oh, this great, you know, we got our guy
in the white house, because he's Orthodox, I believe. And he
fought in the Israeli forces. Or I don't know if he fought, he
served. He quit his job, actually, at one point. And he
was also, interestingly enough, on the board of directors of,
I'm gonna say Fannie Mae in 2000, when there was three years
of humongous scandal about losing trillions of dollars
losing track of trillions of dollars, and this guy has been
around for a while. This is no change. Yeah, it's a change back
to back to
back to the worst
good times. This guy, they call him Rambo.
Yeah, yeah. And he's gonna run things. Oh, yeah. Because isn't
because this is very Nixonian, this, this group is bringing in
his almost like, Give me a minute, we'll be a Republican.
And anyways, we'll be Richard Nixon with these guys.
And look at all that, because this is what we were talking
about on Wednesday. Look at all the names that are popping up
who's going to be Secretary of the Treasury. And they've got
guys who have all been, you know, nothing new. It's all
former Federal Reserve guys fed New York firm, a former Treasury
Secretary, Secretary, they're even talking about the governor
of New Jersey who worked as CEO. And guess what, Goldman Sachs.
And this is not this is, and this is, here's my, here's my
takeaway. This is a big this is the big cover up moment. While
everyone's living in euphoria, and we're taking our eye off the
ball temporarily. All this shit is taking place. All kinds of
stuff happening right now.
Well, now in in Obama's defence if you remember, when Carter was
a well, you probably don't, because it was, you know, you
can now I don't know, when Carter was elected. He probably
did. I think maybe Clinton when he first started, he did one of
these, you know, let's bring in some outsiders and just see what
we can shake up Washington kind of thing. And they just failed
miserably, because they don't know the ropes. So at least
Obama's not making the mistake of bringing in a bunch of
amateurs that that can be pushed around. Let's face it with this
Rahm Emanuel that he's not going to get pushed around. Except by
the people that they do. They just go off the deep end with
with intimidating people and pushing their way around. But
you know, they may need that against Nancy Pelosi. So I, you
know,
the I'm just I'm just a little concerned about what I'm reading
and what I'm hearing and what the what the ideas are, and
yeah, well, the ideas are probably not going to work out.
Thank you. I guess that's what I'm saying. Yeah, the ideas
there, that's not gonna work out. Not gonna be too good.
But a lot of this crap, like the office of the president elect.
Imagery is really getting on my nerves.
I did appreciate the change.gov website. The idea, of course, is
really, really good. It's a fantastic branding exercise
extension of the brand beyond belief. Right? Really, really
smart.
Yeah, as if anyone's going to pay any attention to the
probably, you know, 100 million suggestions they're gonna get
from every dingbat in the country.
Oh, it's gonna be, you know, a very sorry, excuse for for a
feedback mechanism. But, you know, in the, in the guise of
being transparent, it's a good move. I'm actually waiting for
hope God gov wins that message, that message coming online.
That'd be a cool site. hope.gov.
So I'm watching Bill Maher, who is turned back into his, you
know, his pre 911 You know, hateful self. It's amazing. He
did. I mean, he like when you know, he got fired from ABC for
going on about calling the Americans cowards. And actually,
he said something different at the time, which I thought it was
so spot on. He said. The terrorists were actually very,
very brave to fly to believe so.
I know what he said. But I
will tell people because it's good to remind of John gimmes.
Yeah,
but it was at the moment it wasn't a matter of, of what you
know, his wording it was his intent. Well, we'll have me
because I saw him do it. I watched that show. I watched it,
too. I saw I saw it too. And I had a meet he was extremely mean
spirited about the whole thing. He was angry. And he was angry
at the United States for sending cruise missiles into you know,
you know, Afghanistan or wherever.
And he's right.
I think that's what we shouldn't be doing.
Whenever you think we should be sending cruise missiles into
Afghanistan. At the time
Yeah, absolutely. Dryer glow. I'm not kidding you. What do you
think we're supposed to do walk over there.
But what are we doing over there? Well, they haven't done
anything over here. We've we've been over it. We've been through
all their countries a million times. No wonder they're pissed
off if they actually did it.
No, I don't think they did it. But the Taliban was the guys
that were essentially keeping the al Qaeda folks in, in. John,
you know,
I just, I just don't buy it. I don't buy it at all. I read a
lot about the Taliban. I don't read I don't buy what you're
saying right now. I want to keep it occupied on the business
I have. I have no problem taking that side. And on this argument,
we should remember, I remember when the Taliban before 911. We
had a story at Tech T or ZD TV, or tech TV or wherever there was
at the time,
that's where I turned in for all my worldly news is Tech TV. No,
they were doing
a story. Because they did have a newscast. And they were talking
about this is just after the Taliban blew up all those
Buddhist icons that were carved into the mountains when you
were so offended, it's like, Let's go bomb those people
because they blew up.
You wanted me to finish? So and then they you know, they had
banned you know, meanwhile, Omar had banned dancing, he had
banned kite flying. He they were executing women in the soccer
stadium and most of the stuff was pretty well documented. And
so there's they were gonna run this story that was kind of
complimentary toward the Taliban. And I talked what to
the news director says you can't do this. And I read them to kind
of, you know, there's this laundry list of shit that these
guys were doing. And you know, like family, I'm thinking
nobody's paying any attention to this stuff. These guys are a
terrible people, generally speaking, and I had absolutely
no, I wasn't concerned at all when they when they threw a few
cruise missiles at him.
Pre 911
That was pre 911. Yeah, yeah. When 911 came up, none of it
surprised me.
And okay, well, then you're just the nasty American bastard.
Oh, well.
That's, that's horrible. I totally disagree with what what
is it? It's not our business to be. Okay. So they've they're
fucked up. That's their problem, but then deal with it.
They had bin Laden? You didn't want it him?
We wouldn't know about Bin Laden pre 911. They did too. Oh, John,
if they really did, then 911 wouldn't have taken place? Or
the whole thing is bullshit. Ergo, your argument is bullshit
about them having 911. Bin Laden?
Yeah, I'm not I'm not buying your gear, you know, you're kind
of is it skews off the road? You know, as you go into the ditch
with your notion that there's some sort of deeper conspiracy?
It doesn't doesn't go off the road at all. We're not talking
about that. I'm saying
that we think we should have done nothing in Afghanistan.
If if the Taliban is causing a problem in in their own in their
own country in their own region? What, what, what benefit does it
give us to go over there and start to kick people around and
set him straight? What benefit?
So you think we do shouldn't have gotten into Afghanistan?
There's, there's no try to get bin Laden and straighten those
guys out.
Trying to get bin Laden is different than than lobbing a
few cruise missiles over, okay. That's different. If you want to
go get bin Laden, then you get your delta forces or whatever,
and go find him. I mean, it's not it is not impossible. And we
have the largest military and secret military operation in the
world. And we can't find one guy come on,
didn't you read the Atlantic? Monthly material and the fact of
the CIA and all that type of operation was guided largely
during the Clinton administration and Bush hasn't,
you know, they were just Bush couldn't reestablish that stuff,
because you just got there. I don't think the CIA or I don't
think any of these people have the ability to do what you
described. At that point.
We'll go okay, then we don't do it. End of story. I'm sorry.
Hey, you know, you there's trade sanctions, you can invoke you
can the President come out and can come down
tonight so your basic basically a justice not vengeance guy.
No, no, what's the vengeance? If you're saying first you say the
Taliban was bad. And I say, Oh, we have to throw cruise missiles
over? Well, they were hiding bin Laden. Same thing. We got to
throw cruise missiles over well, we didn't have the CIA had been
gutted. So we got to throw cruise missiles over
at OSHA. But then what would you what should we have done?
Nothing? Nothing is what you're saying?
No, nothing. I'd have done absolutely nothing. Yeah,
there was a really interesting article written in the London
Times by one of the professor's I think, one of them sorry,
if I was actually President, I would have had to do something
because hey, they were they were, of course, and this is why
it actually took place. Our drug supply is over there, which the
government is importing into the United States and Western
Europe. So of course, that's why we threw in some Kruseman This
was to go kick their ass and say, Hey, we're taking over the
drug trade. We're the new Big Boss in town. At that point,
when we went into Afghanistan in 2003, or four, whatever it is,
the Taliban had actually reduced the poppy fields down to almost
zero. Now they're back up to full precast capacity plus,
that's what that's what that's for, not to go find bin Laden.
So you think the whole thing was just a ruse to get to get our
supply of heroin back up to snuff
and indirectly to maintain the support of our economy? Yes,
absolutely. The drug trade is the drug money is a big part of
our economy, which is Wall Street, which is where it all
goes, yes.
So what else is going on?
I'm in a bad mood.
Thank you.
This is what pissed me off. So Patricia is doing her show.
She's doing a double shot. She did Friday night last night.
Once again, number one in the time slot, even larger audience
than last week. And she can be entered to, to milk it to suck
the teat and to bash the competition. They're now doing a
second show on Saturday night. Which, which puts her out for a
couple days. So I'm home with a teenager my my 18 year old
daughter who let's face it, you know, I'm on the road a lot. I
don't see all the time. We had a nice meal. The other night we
went out to dinner, but I don't mind her boyfriend staying over
which he doesn't. She didn't ask because you know, he just came
in and he's staying over. But then in the morning when she has
to get up to go to work. And I've been working until 2am
doing video shit, she knows it. And her boyfriend has stayed
over. And the smoke alarm goes off at eight o'clock. And
because she's cooking up a whole breakfast in bed for this guy. I
like the guy Dexter. She's cooking up a whole breakfast in
bed, which she's never done for me once in 18 years, never ever.
And then I go downstairs. The whole kitchen is a mess. She
didn't she couldn't even have the courtesy to clean out the
dishwasher and put the dirty shit she just created for her
boyfriend back in and they drank all the orange juice, which was
a brand new bottle of orange juice didn't leave me one drop.
I'm so sick and tired of it. Ah.
So because of this, you're now on the side of the Taliban.
I'm no would you watch wash your mouth out with soap John C.
Dvorak. Don't say those things. Of course, I'm not on the side
of the Taliban. I'm against all evil, which includes throwing
bombs at people just dumb inlets unless they throw a bomb at you
first, and then we go kick their ass. That's different.
So what did you tell her? Did you get mad or did you just
sulk?
I know I got mad. And actually, my voice started to crack.
That's how mad I was. Wow. Well, because she gives me this
attitude. Don't do it. When I come home from work. You have
time to sit on Facebook, bake your boyfriend breakfast in bed,
and you don't have time to do the dishwasher. Pass you treat
the place like a hotel. Now I know why Patricia is complaining
all the time. So now I have to deal with it. That's the whole
point. So
I'm like running into a bit of a dish. It's like, gotta go.
Gotta go. Patricia. Gotta go. Oh, man. It's like I'm running
in fucking bed and breakfast here and I'm cleaning up crap.
No, actually, here's here's where it all started. I'm really
mad. So I work I'm working for like 14 hours in the city is
almost a two hour commute to come back these days. You know,
taxi, train taxi that you take a car you take the tube doesn't
matter. It's all the same. It's always two hours. So I'm two I'm
in a cab at six o'clock. And I'd asked her one thing one thing
when you come home from school, please feed the animals let them
out. That's all one thing. And she was home at four. And then
when she was gonna go out to a party with a with a boyfriend at
eight so all this time, she calls me Oh, Daddy, I locked
myself out. I was gonna go get something a Dexter's and my keys
inside and how do I get in? So well? How do you get in you wait
until them homes, you know? So I'm running. I'm running through
Waterloo Station. I'm out of breath. You know to catch the
catch a train that goes 20 minutes earlier. I'm riding home
I'm texting her um, yeah, I'll be there in 30 minutes. I'm at
the station. I'm around the corner. She's not texting me
back. You know, so I'm running and I've come in i all her shits
on the floor. The minute I walk in the door I'm literally
falling over it. She hasn't fed the dog she was there for four
hours. It hadn't fed the dog didn't let him out the I know
the key was still out of the door. I mean all of this. I'm
just getting so angry and then she doesn't. And I text her
she's not calling me back. She's not texting me back because
turns out she was busy doing her boyfriend's makeup for for the
costume party. I need this you as a as a mature father with the
children of multiple, multiple whatever you got, like 29 kids
from three wives. It does this sound familiar to you? Sounds
par for the course. What am I doing wrong? Nothing. Oh, no,
no, that's not Hello. Sorry. What am I doing? Hello? Is this
on? I want to make sure you can hear me. So that's it, huh?
Yeah. Then they move out. You know?
You miss them and they miss him and did they
come in and then when after they move out and they start visiting
just to take stuff? What happened to this edge?
That's already happening. She takes stuff and then she leaves
it somewhere and forgets where she left it.
They take stuff to their house. Oh, that's
even worse. Well, the minute she has a house I'm coming over
there. I'm stomping chips into the potato chips into the
carpet. I'm leaving my shit around. I'm leaving doors open
lights on.
The lights on Oh, places lit up like a Roman candle.
Did you know what I'm saying? You know, does that sound
familiar? Yes,
because no button and no kid thinks to turn the lights off.
taking showers. It's a it's a muscle exercise. And they don't
have it. It's not in the body.
Is this is God This is insanity. This has got to stop. I don't
know how to do oh, by the way. I got something here. John, you're
gonna be very jealous of in my hand from my wonderful friend
Paul Parkinson. He sent this to my house that arrived today. And
he sent a couple of of books as well which I really that's like
that. What a gift of love to give someone books. Because it
says so much about what they think about you. As the
recipient. I hold in my hand. A 10 billion. No, I'm sorry. $100
billion note from Zimbabwe. Well, because you'd only had a
10 billion right
now and I only have to devote what I have is a 10 million I
don't have a 10 billion
$100 billion expires on December 31 2008.
But so it's still good for it's still good. It's still $100
billion. Well, I'm gonna it's in it's a perfect note. By the way,
it has not been
perfect today these things don't get worn out get naked scan of
it and send it to me so I can blog it Yeah,
no, it's is beautiful. No, no, no, no, no, I like you. I'm
gonna blog it and then you can put a link to me. You crazy I
gotta get some link love. I love
what's your serial number on that thing at the lower right
hand corner should have some number
020229000 No,
that's the one at the bottom underneath bearer check. There
should be a stamped black number over on the right down at the
bottom.
At the top. It's a AAA 587653 and the DEA something I've a
so I have the I have the rare AE series John.
Yeah, well I have the 10 of the 100 million notes Yes. I love
this actually say $100 million.
You see and has all the zeros on it too. It's it's really cool.
And it says here it just like our money paid to the bearer on
demand. $100 billion on or before 31st December 2008 for
the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe yes yes you need first of July 2008
Yeah, that's Do you know if you hold up to the light you should
see two watermarks. Say and also a security band down the middle.
Yeah, one Hey, it looks like a dildo. That's what I thought
when I saw it. Or like a like a bong almost. It's
weird. Yeah. And then it should be RBZ on there and then it
should also be that black line down the middle secure I got the
Blackboard I got the bug security lie at the real deal
that's a real 100 billion dollars
congratulations you win $100 million and I'm going to blog
this and and you don't I'm going to put it in a permanent spot on
the homepage for every day I can be reminded of what our money
will look like what the dollar will look like this is it this
that's what it is this is this is what happens when you when
you give your government a printing press. This is what you
get.
This is what you get.
My understanding is they're going to change the name to the
from the dollar to the peso
Yeah, maybe it doesn't matter
if there's no edge because Oh, actually, you know, the the
marrow is still in play.
Yeah, I was. This has been going on for a long time. And but it
doesn't really matter what you call it. If it's based on
nothing, then it's not worth anything. Right?
I use the word simple then send me your money if it's not worth
anything.
Now it's worth something now.
My hunch is what he said. That's all it counts is now
Exactly so right now I'm happy. Oh, I got sad again because I
thought of two minutes from now it's Obama is totally being seen
as the president of the world.
Yeah, that's interesting. Well, he's somebody was commenting on
the fact that they've never seen an acceptance speech before.
Where there wasn't normally the acceptance visa guys up there
with his family and they're in that kind of a cosy room and
they're accepting it to the to their,
to their local, their local their local hangout. Yeah.
And so he's doing in front of a big audience with nobody around
and it's the same lighting you know, it's all it's another
staged event. They thought that was peculiar. And then so
apparently, Charlie Rose some of the now that media is starting
to think of, they're actually using the term cult of
personality.
Oh, I played that song the other day on daily source code. Living
Colour, remember that? Remember Living Colour? Yeah. Not the TV
show. John. The band. Yeah, the song. But you remember the song?
No, I don't. Why are you saying why are you saying yes, if you
don't remember the song? I remember the group. Okay, what
did the lead singer look like? Because you're lying. You're
full of shit. I don't remember. You would remember if you
remember this group you would remember?
D look like? Like one of these you know? Like, I can't remember
these names. This goes back too far.
Even I remember this. Well, yeah,
we're in the business to remember that.
This was 19 I'm gonna say 90 You remember him because it was one
of the first really hard rockin groups that had a black guy
fronting it Corey Glover so you don't you don't remember
Hey, just listen to this write down give me an education I can
easily understand
Okay, remember the song?
No. Okay. Play it down
I'm gonna play the whole thing
will play part of it.
I just played play some lyrics didn't you? Didn't you just hear
it?
I just was like in the background. I could barely hear
it.
Well wait a minute. That's not right. You're supposed to it's
supposed to be really loud. How come I say here we go. Do you
hear that?
I can do that now
I have a little bit of lyrics
you know I'm saying
oh, you know, I know I vaguely remember that. Yeah.
You probably have this CD right next to your New Kids on the
Block CD
Yeah, yeah. Right. I vaguely remember that song.
It was a huge it was a massive hit. They had one other song and
that was it and I actually wonder where the guy is he's
gone. So anyway, yeah. cult of personality completely because
that that's what we're looking at 100%
Yeah, I think we knew that from the get
go Yeah, but it's so dangerous.
Yeah, it tends to be but you know it's usually becomes a big
disappointment and problem with cult of personality is that when
you have when that when you're when your fans turn on you it's
pretty ugly.
Yes, it can get very ugly but the really good ones that look
good you've got the all you really need is the media. You
need the media in your pocket as much as possible. That's going
to be interesting to see if if the the Obama administration can
control the spin
well, you know, they got some good people there you know, the
actual rod and those characters are pretty pretty. And yeah,
they're pretty nasty. Well, if they're all in control, this is
all it's apparent already. Did when did the cult personality
get this get that big, long hair is long haired black man. What?
Wasn't a guy that singer on that? Oh, yeah.
You finally Googled him and now you're looking at a picture. It
took you a long time. We'll
go with this because we lose our connection.
You bullshit. you're Googling,
Googling, like that?
You're so busted. I saw the European Union put out there
October 29. Communication. And greenhouse has now become a
Verb. To greenhouse doubt to green the economy,
but to green the economy. Yeah. No, that's terrible. Yeah.
In fact, if you look at their, their communication is pretty
much you could put Obama Biden on it. And you say, All right,
it's the same thing. and more money going into the banks.
Bloomberg, this was offence. I answered a few I find this link
Bloomberg, I read today, they put it a Freedom of Information
request for all the money the Federal Reserve had lent to the
financial industry prior to the bailout. So outside of the 700
billion. And it turns out, they have lent, in addition to the
$700,000,000,001.5 trillion to financial institutions,
Bloomberg said, hey, you know, we'd like to know, what kind of
securities have you received against that? Because that's the
deal. They lend you the money. And then these banks were
already apparently before the bailout, were handing over their
worthless paper to the government as collateral or, you
know, or as purchase I'm not quite sure which, and that's the
whole point. And so Bloomberg said, hey, you know, can we take
a look at that? Because we'd like to know what what, you
know, what all that all of our money is being securitized
against. And the Federal Reserve said, No, that's none of your
business. Your business. And by the way, were you know, were you
Yeah, and your mom was? Thanks. Nananananana. That's, that's
outrageous, John.
Cool. Well, what's outrageous is Bloomberg. First this guy talks
him into letting him go first.
I'm talking about Bloomberg, not Bloomberg, the mayor, I'm
talking about Bloomberg, the news organisation.
Well, owned by Bloomberg, the mayor, I
just want to make sure you knew that I was. That's what I was
saying. You know, I
thought you were talking about Bloomberg the mayor. Okay. Well,
tell us about Bloomberg, the mayor, the guy who wants to
extend his term. He's like Berlusconi in New York.
Exactly. So firstly, extended, he talks everybody into this.
And so he goes in, he gets his reelected. Then he says, Okay,
we're going to update in come chat, excellent percent for all
you New Yorkers. And we're going to do this, we're gonna do that
and just like slams it to him. So there's, you know, the New
York is one of the few cities in the United States where you have
to pay an income tax to live there. Yeah. And the city wants
to jerk it up to 15% or 10. At least.
Well, he has to, he has to, ya know, the city's broke is
completely broke. And now they're using the
well, he's been editing for as long as he has, how did he get
broke? Whose fault is that? Well, anybody who's been there
for two terms? Yeah.
So him pay. Yeah.
So it goes.
So then we have our arm, you know, the crazy Mayor we've got
is Gavin Newsom from San Francisco. Yeah. Guy, you know,
he obviously wants to be president.
Yeah, so what did he do this time?
I mean, he's just essentially whining about the fact that
proposition eight was passed, even though it's largely his
fault.
Right. So we, we talked about this previously, I believe it
was a week ago, Proposition eight was to ban gay marriage in
the state of California, correct.
It was to re ban gay marriage that had been banned once
before. And it wasn't unbanned it was unbanned by the courts.
And then the guys like Newsom are gloating about it, which is
by the way, where I'm seeing a lot of
fun. Any Obama Halia a lot of that,
I mean, this is what the Bill Maher thing I brought up even
though it's set you off into a offbeat direction that's gonna
help you reputation much, but the gloating just gloating about
well, you know, and there's, you know, there's just been there's
still pounding on Sarah Palin and McCain as though they did
like, we're gonna have another election. You know, let's just
pile on. And the one thing that was interesting to me was is the
in the insincerity of it all, for example, on Maher show, he
showed the John McCain speech where he conceded and there's
some people in the audience booing boo, you know, when he
mentioned Obama, and so McCain told him to shut up and they
did. And so Marsh shows this showing that the Republicans are
a bunch of a holes for booing Obama. And then he says, Look at
what Kerry did. And then he shows Kerry giving his
concession speech, you know, and he just shows who knows what
part of it and nobody says anything. In fact, the room is
deadly silent. And I'm thinking what a bunch of boldest guys
like he's been in broadcasting long enough to know that if you
don't mic the audience, you'd be able to be boring and who's
gonna know. Yeah, it seemed to me that the Kerry group wasn't
dumb audience wasn't Mike died, did a thing once in Las Vegas
where we had this huge audience. I couldn't believe it. We had
this huge audience and we're doing a live presentation and
they didn't mic the audience. So I was I had some some hilarious
material and And the audience was going crazy. It was really
funny. He was laughing, you'd have to pause for the laughter.
When I was doing a TV back in the early 80s. In the
Netherlands, we did a series of what we did a whole season live.
And so you get in a whole different crew and, and it's
intense to do a music show live, you've got X and the X, they all
would lip sync to their own track. But what the sound
technician did, and of course, I didn't know this at the time
until I watched the tape of the show. And when I freaked out, is
that we had a, you know, we had a studio audience, you know,
like 150 Kids and they'd stand in front of the stage and the
speakers were booming. And, you know, whoever whatever megastar
would be up there. It was like Duran Duran, I think even at the
time who wouldn't be able to sing live, even if we'd asked
them to on a TV show, or at least not, they would never have
the combination of sound technicians and talent to make
that work. So they live sick. And it was a lot easier, just
that less gear less cost done. It's still a pretty picture. And
the audio engineer did the minute the band started, he
closed the audience mics. So you're basically hearing the
record watching like a video clipping you see all these kids
going nuts in front of the stage and you didn't hear him at all?
No room sound on nothing. completely idiotic. Oh, it is
infuriating.
Well, here's what happened in my situation. So we'd have you say
something funny, you'd wait for the audience to stop laughing
and then you go back. So but what says the audience wasn't
miked? And when you saw the tape on the what that what they
broadcast, it was like a bunch of guys up there saying stuff.
And then you'd say something funny, then there'd be this long
silence as though nobody was laughing. They might as well put
a cricket soundtrack in the background. And you look like a
bunch of fools. And so I went back and talked to the sound guy
but what did what was the deal with that not Mikey? Oh, well,
it's too much work. See what he's talking about? It's too
much work. And so I told him I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even
go on again. And let's say you know, fix that and they then
what and then it's too much work consisted of taking a mic and
aiming at the audience and turning it up turning
it off. Yeah. Oh, man.
So anyway, so I thought Maher was completely you know, just an
insincere jerk about this whole thing. And but he's just you can
just see he's just like going back to zero the meat is just
getting a mean kind of a lemon. He's becoming the kind of the
grouchy old man that wants the kids off the lawn.
Well, it's, I'm not quite sure where he stands on on most
things. That sounds a little confusing to me. And I'll add to
that, that I cannot watch it over here. There's just no no
way to obtain it. Unless I guess I crawled from the
disk of this show and you can watch it the only reasonable
person on the show was his black woman from NPR who was making
them a commentary that look you guys are like beaten up by a
dead horse. I mean, you're looking making yourself look
like idiots. You know, let's just get on you know and we'll
be Why be so negative about you know, winning. Yeah, she was
actually quite reasonable about it. She saw the problem you
know, that was going to create
I'm tired of all of them. You know, I can't watch any of that
kid just can't watch anyone. It's all it's all so superficial
and and so full of crap. Well, real things are going on. The
credit card bond markets collapsed Friday.
Did you know No, tell me.
Yep, they can't No one's No one's buying the bonds. So
that's it, credit cards will be closed down. And I presume that
credit lines will be tightened. I'm not quite sure how that
work. I guess the way their contracts are written, they can
do pretty much anything they want. So credit cards are now
the next wave the next shock wave that will be
here that was you know, I don't think anybody is not expecting
that. Andrew Horowitz has been harping on getting out of
Capital One for almost a year.
Well, I'm not giving this as financial advice to people who
are investing. I'm telling this to normal folks who just
listened to our show and don't live in cycles and reputations
since your credit card your bad.
Yeah, but but people are financed everything on credit
cards, entire movies. Entire startups are financed on credit
cards. Where will Silicon Valley go with credit cards? Well, I've
no more credit card no more stories. I remember when I
started the company on credit cards
well, you know, we've gotten to you know, our family has gone
all cash.
Yeah, ditto but I've been that way for a long time. But yeah,
you talking cash as in? Absolutely zero plastic at all.
Yeah, like cash, we go to the we go to the bank, take cash, you
know, put in, you know, and then buy things with cash and makes a
difference. The way you did changes your spending habits.
Because when you're actually putting cash down on the table,
you think twice about it as opposed to just throwing a card
up there.
It's funny, I was talking about that very topic on the daily
source code, where you know, credit cards and even some of
the smart card debit cards that store money on the chip itself
money. Listen to me that set at three bits differently off the
chip. You can't just look at it and say Oh, I have 150 Left or I
have 50 Left or 20 Left or whatever. There's no indicator
there's no readout, you have to stick it into a card reader and
then you know, type your PIN code and all that crap to see
how much money you have left. And now monopoly someone left me
pictures of the new box monopoly brought to you by Visa. You
actually pay for your houses your hotels, and everything with
your Visa credit card in the game. What Yep, there's no more
money what you didn't know this, they had a huge launch in New
York on I think the today's show, they had a huge monopoly.
Like 10 You know, like 100 times scale Monopoly game, you know,
I'll send it to you actually go to drop.io/daily source code.
And you'll see here it is, there's two pictures. First one
is monopoly electronic banking. Uses cards not cash to store
your millions. That one may be fake. The second one I don't
think is fake though. But I remember the monopoly guy with a
hat on you know, he was walking around the Today Show and he
said oh no, everything's on credit cards now and again.
I find this hard to believe.
Now it's true. Come on, man.
can spill apparently it can spilled daily.
I love that keyboard. You have such a. It sounds like you're
still using your Wang keyboard actually
daily dai l y source source code that's it dropping in a log in
it says that the login no
drop.io/data source code. You sure that it's not saying login
or share the URL is right.
I have dropped that IO daily source code and it says login to
this drop.
That's That's bullshit.
I'm gonna send you a screenshot now it showed up. I swear to God
it just popped up now.
Watch what happens.
Well, bio is not the first black president. That's a zero coffee
shop and you could just go to monopoly.com and here it is. I
see it. I see it. Yeah, it's the real picture. It's the real
picture from monopoly.com It's not a Photoshop you see that?
Yeah, it's ridiculous. No, man. This is rice. Yeah,
it's got a pin reader.
Yes. ATM machine in the box.
Is this what you want your children to learn how to use
electronic there's no concept of trading something of something
for value. It's sticking a plastic into another plastic
thing. If anything should be labelled porn.
Monopoly ditches cash goes plastic according to Engadget oh
this is ridiculous. This just ruin the game that allow this
Little Reader they get this Little Reader it comes with a
winner of that
but that's the bad actually that's the bank
can you read other cards in that thing? Oh here that we need
other
cards. You mean like your own debit card? Yeah. I find myself
go I do have a debit card debit card is really integrated here
in the UK. And it's it was literally if it's not in the
bank on that account then it doesn't work and and I
deliberately buy the weirdest shit at the weird weirdest
places just to fuck them up you know buy a candy bar and then
I'll then I'll get like $20 from an ATM in San Francisco
just a mess with them
Yeah, well you're probably going to end up on some list and again
just have a book as a weird fees
well we're gonna have fees for everything
that's the
problem that's the problem with this plastic shit yeah, it's and
have you heard the meme yet paper to plastic? I'm hearing it
you wait well it's what you
say is true about the whole credit card you know bond deal
fallen apart? And they can't
Yeah, but that's the that's the credit card part here. So here
you want a conspiracy theory. Here's one for you. We're a
theory not even conspiracy. So yeah, the credit card part the
credit part falls apart. But so why wouldn't a bank the bank
Federal Reserve the Treasury for all I care what differences have
made? Why would they set up a computer system and say okay,
now you can get the official guaranteed bank US Federal
Savings and Loan back I think you'll get a debit card issued
a way to stop it actually would be a debit card. What do you
mean, you don't have to go that far just having a Federal
Reserve credit card? It says you got to reserve on it just like
$1. Bill would have crossed the top. Yeah.
And it has a little little signature there, from the
Treasury from the Secretary of the Treasury.
Right? Like, a miniature dollar.
Yeah. And you could have your face on it instead of instead of
the President. That's right. That's perfect. United, United
States and stuff, that little eagle holding the arrows and
shit,
actually, the way they do it, they do by law, you'd have to
have your face on, it'd be a form of identification. In fact,
of course, without a doubt, because it's, so it's your ID
and your payment in one. And if you misbehave, they just can
they can, they can delete you. You're gone, your card does no
longer work, you are an invalid.
You know, it's possible that that actually makes a lot of
sense, wilted they would that they would do that
Jackie Smith, who was the Home Secretary in the United Kingdom,
not very well, like a woman is now coming out in interviews,
saying, oh, boy, there's so much they're handing out ID cards
now. And they're going to start with workers airside at one of
the large airports, not quite sure which one, which arguably
for of course, Homeland Security is an important thing to have
good identification, but this is the prototype and entered into
the prototype database of the national ID card. So she's
handing them out and she's coming out in the press now and
saying, Wow, the demand has been so big people are calling my
office saying oh, we want one too. Everyone wants an ID card.
We can't make them fast enough. She's literally saying that in
the press. Like someone's gonna call Oh, can I please have my ID
card? It's so cool. I want it well, you know, the Americans
have their Federal Reserve Bank ID card and it is kind of cool
look and look you can even have your own face on it Tommy
Well, I don't know how they get how far they're gonna get with
this plastic to paper idea because I mean, especially if
you're on the West Coast, we have so many Chinese that refuse
to use anything but cash and they run all their businesses on
a cash basis. And you have places you know like a Peter
Luger there in New York you know whether it's a big giant
restaurant is very famous and they only take cash. Does that
hold out?
Does it tell you anything about the Chinese do you think you
might want to follow their strategy?
But you are actually
yeah, I already am. Voice that Chinese had some on the ball
with that idea. That
meanwhile, Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe. Rwanda and the Congo
have dropped off the news map. Oops that done.
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's kind of interesting. There's been a
couple of movement mentions here and there but it's not news
anymore.
Did you ever hear that? Do you ever go to our drop? Uh, no
agenda?
I'm looking at no actually well yeah, I do. Do you have
Did you hear the guy do Do you eating on air?
Somebody sent me a link to it
was funny.
They only eat on air once in a while.
I didn't even hear it doesn't bother me at all. I don't hear
it. People get so picky. I gotta you're
you're eating he's not supposed to be eating. Fasting.
I don't want it apparently many people find it disgusting to
listen to
somebody eating you know there used to be a radio personality
that would be I forgot who it was but he was local. And he
would this whole show was him eating just be eating during the
entire she was a DJ and he just be eating the whole show every
day. Hey, it's fat
Sam with the ever buddy Hill. Oh, say here the bay you're
doing what do you play records? What do you play records?
Yeah, yeah. And then he drink and somebody could hear him
sipping on a glass of something rather than you know drinking
his coffee. It was a whole show is like then he just he just
gets just chewing away but he'd be talking about chewing it
wasn't like he would you know swallow then talk he would be
talking while he had something in his mouth chewing
but you're reasonably pleasant eater to look at. I'll say that.
Yeah, there are some people who just like God damn.
Oh, yeah, there's some people are the people that some people
that they crunch up there. They have their cheeks get all puffy
or they just chew on one side shoe weird but there's a lot of
when I was a good cow we always had to. I'm laughing.
We're actually discussing this fantastic.
Well, you ever seen it once and every once a while you here's
another thing. You go to a restaurant that'd be like to me
sometimes maybe a good looking woman. And then you watch her
eating and you go oh my god, no wonder she's still single. You
She's using this thing. But the one thing that's interesting
about the the woman who has an oil guy sometimes but there's
always the women are more fascinating because they do the
weird stuff. And are they like just you with their front teeth?
And you can tell, you know, just like good luck with
the Billy MC ones. So are scratching their teeth on the
spoon? Have you ever seen that?
Oh, here's another great one. That's even I think it's
grosser, it's the person again, because usually watch guys eat
but you see these women cuz they they got a spoonful a summary or
a fork and before putting it in their mouth, their tongue comes
completely out.
Go and it's not a pretty tongue. It's not a pretty tongue. Huge
long
tongues that come out like reptilian just makes you wonder.
And then the thing goes in and the tongue kind of wraps it up,
you know, and it's easy to go oh my god, why does a tongue have
to come out like that is to put in some food
and it turns you off, man. You can't eat this like Ah, I'll
never go ahead.
Well, I'm gonna say the one thing you have to agree with me
on is when you see you know you're at a restaurant and you
see somebody eating like they are they have this weird
characteristic. It's you can't stop staring at them.
No, no, of course not. And you know what you should do if so if
you're if you go out to dinner John the next time and and it
can be man or woman but woman is maybe even better. And she has
one of those disgusting habits. You know what you can do? Just
love a cruise missile atom. You just Blow that bitch right out
of the water. I'm John C, F and Devorah AK who to say Oh, what
the hell do you think you already eat like that in front
of me? I got a reputation. Well, the only thing you do this
weird, which we have discussed before is you hold your fork
incorrectly. And it's as it is quite annoying. I'm used to it
now because I love
quite annoy. You're not holding your fork in the proper British
sensitive things. So
Emily Post prescribed that my mama rest her soul. My mama
taught me how to eat properly. And how to if you're eating
soup, then you are pushing the spoon away from you. And you
tilt away from you not towards you away. At no point. May you
ever drink from a soup bowl unless it has two handles on
each side.
Do tell it to the Japanese.
So you're not Japanese.
I'm just saying tell to the Japanese Why don't you
agree with me you hold your fork wrong. You hold it like like
You're like a tool and die instrument like
hold like an American that don't hold it don't keep tilde left
the upside down for to the thing is upside down and pointing
toward the toward the toward China and kept in the one hand
and never swapped back and forth. No
you're allowed to swap you're supposed to swap according to
Emily Post.
Well, I know but most Europeans don't tell their
proper I'm talking about you and I This is between us too. And
you hold your fork like you're stabbing someone to death. And
you jam it into your usually rare whatever meat it is you
eat. And it's really it's like a psycho thing, man. Oh my god,
there he goes. Can't you just and by the way you can exert a
lot more control in the proper manner I would I need to show
you the proper manner. This is just not this is wrong.
You mean you want me to do it the foppish way in which you do
it.
I would like you to see if there's an added benefit, I
believe you will find my manner of holding the force beneficial
is where you have more food control. And there's a lot more
you can do with the actual fork.
You have you describe me as sitting there ham fisted? That's
exactly what with a grip around the formula. What you do, you
got a cab
comes to the dead chainsaw. Clunk jabs it in again. And then
it's kind of like weird how it then turns you have to turn your
whole arm to get it into your mouth because you can't point it
properly because you're not using the tool the way it was
meant to be implemented.
This is nonsense. I believe our audience right the time here's
the deal. One time I had something it was just like
something I needed to like really forced into this thing
because it was conference. Your eyes bugged open, because you're
normally just looking at your plate gobbling things down and
not paying much attention to me.
So you saw it because you make me nauseous when you're when
you're calling you're murdering your
you just bug eyed your hair stood up and you went oh my god,
what are you doing? And I said this thing you know is gonna
slide off the plate if I don't do this and you wouldn't have
been preoccupied with it ever since.
It was the first time we ever ate. I saw it and I went oh God,
but I'm not rude. You know? It's like a first date. I'm not gonna
you mentioned
it on the spot. What are you kidding me the second
A conjoined with this for me, it was, it was the first day. I
wasn't looking to get laid. I'm like, I gotta I gotta tell them
because it'll just bugged me. It's like, like someone has food
on their, on their cheek. You know, if you don't say it,
you're a dick because they need just looking at the piece, like
fall off, make that
you see it every once in a while, you say, well, maybe
it'll just fall off your mouth. That's
wrong, man. You just gotta say it because you're wasting
valuable time and space by waiting for food to fall off. So
I just said,
I think it's a timing thing with the food on the face. I think
you can't just say it immediately.
Like Like, you slob you deck, I can't believe that you just
shove that all over your face.
So you have to wait. There's, there's a there's a period of
it. There's a waiting period that's involved with calling
people and telling them that they get some chunk of food on
what would you do? Is that based upon the conversation at hand?
Or is that based upon actual seconds and or minutes? I love
it the most when it when it happens in a meeting. And the
and the person who's speaking has something on their face. And
you just and I just start I'm like, I wait, I don't say it
anymore. Like who's gonna say at first who's gonna say because
you know, with Ron, we've been we've been in business so so
long that sometimes I'll say dude, score a frickin tic tac
you smell like death out of your out of your beak. This is
horrible. And he knows it. And you know, so I can just get and
I actually carry peppermints for the poor man. But other people
they won't say this, you know, they just sit in a whole meeting
room for five minutes and wait and everyone's sitting there
like they're not listening to what someone has to say. They're
like they're thinking you better drop off the crumb has to drop
off oh my god, I can't look as a chrome
Well, on the bad breath issue ever run into these guys.
You're so many seconds for the for the brush.
It's like there's the the there's there's different kinds
of you know, these guys with cigar breath and that some other
some sort of deep lung problem they've got so every show within
about a two foot
well, their, their sphincter doesn't close properly. That's
what I know a lot about this by chance, but your that's your
your sphincter as it's called in your throat, you have another
sphincter. And that just doesn't close properly. And so basically
your stomach acid is just kind of, you know, letting loose into
the air out of your head.
Is that right? Yeah. I never heard this. Oh, man. I do not
have many people that have this kind of problem. And it's like
this. And so the end, the worst ones are the ones who are close
talkers.
Oh, and they lean up right to you. Hey, that's why No, that's
why I never go to a concert.
And you have to kind of turn your head because it's like, Oh,
yeah. And hold your breath is just horrible. Yeah. And
they're, you know, they have they have to be real close. And
then if you back away into the worst kind of works close
targets, as if you back off like I don't want you to just close
to me when you're talking and then they move over. Move in.
Yeah. They can take a hint.
How many seconds? John before you have to tell someone they
have a chrome on their face. Kevin, go 1515. Okay, that's not
too bad. Unless they're talking, but you don't interrupt them to
say, hey,
now you can do you can do the motion thing where you push the
motion to get him with a anxious look. And then you point at some
part of their body, your own face, like that. And then again,
coach, they always go to the
wrong side that way, because they immediately go to the wrong
side of the face. Exactly. I think we should have a code word
for it.
Chrome alert.
We really need that now Crumpler does not good enough.
So when you're in the Middle East, by the way, everybody's a
close talker.
This is why I go to very few concerts and nightclubs. Because
of people leaning into either smell of a puke. And the worst,
of course, is women who smell like puke. Be alcohol. See, as
you say, cigars, particularly backstage, at concerts, because
everyone Yeah, well used to be that way. You can't smoke
anywhere these days. But as always, the executives are
always smoking cigars, its tanks. And because it's so
noisy, they have to come in close like and by the way, when
you are talking to someone at a concert, and of course you come
very close to their ear. Please do not shout. It is sufficient
to you may even put your lips on my ear. As long as you speak in
a normal voice when you shout. You are making me deaf. And then
this happened. And that's why don't go because people always
want to come up and say something to me, like, you know,
go have you noticed, by the way, John, that if you've been to the
countries in the Middle East, right, yeah. And but also a
little you get to You know, if you look at Pakistan, but a lot
of the Middle Eastern countries, why is it that their audio when
they have either a radio broadcast or a television
broadcast? Why is it always over modulated?
It's either Oh yeah, it's over modulated and often sounds like
they're in a bucket. So let's get
to exactly what you run into that it's not just here, but you
run it that in Mexican, Mexican
there, it's there. It's
a bunker, bunker. I know they're always shouting, why but what it
is, but it's actually over modulated microphone, you don't
need to shout.
But it's actually over modulated? I mean, it is
technically in the red, you know, it's where it should not
be because it's distorted. Is that just like they said that
their sound they like it, they think that the signal will reach
further maybe if they if they shout louder?
Well, they have you know, in throughout the Middle East, they
have called to prayer throughout today, from these from these
large mosque speakers on the mosques, they have these spires
that go way up, and then they have them loaded. By the way, I
wonder, I would like a Muslim to explain to me because they're,
you know, you're supposed to not change certain things that after
the Quran was written and all this other kind of stuff. And
there's all these rules and regulations when it well, where
does it? Where is it in the Qur'an that you can use, you
know, 10,000 watts of amplification speakers, because
they used to go up there apparently, and give the call to
prayer. Very funny sound. I mean, it's not funny, it's just
funny, pleasant. It's something about you know, you're in the
Middle East, let's put that way because they all start cranking
up about the same time. And they all compete with each other.
Somebody explained it to me that the bid and they started loading
up with amplifiers and speakers. And so they go up there or they
don't go up there anymore. They just get to the on the
microphone, and start, you know, chanting, and then the next guy
down the next mosque down the road, he starts he tries to be
louder, because he wants you know, to be heard over the other
guy, and then the show about so there's a cacophony a number of
times a day, five or six times a day, whatever. Usually, you just
all happens at once. And it's just everybody's screaming at
the top of their lungs and these speaker systems, and it's
totally distorted because they've got them turned up all
the way. And I think it's the sound they've gotten used to
the most prized possession I have from my trip to Iraq during
the war in 2003. Is you see him around now because of course so
many DJI eyes have been in and out and in that you can buy
these things almost everywhere in every market place every
every town. It's a plastic alarm clock. And it is a I'm gonna say
it's about three quarters of a foot long and it's a mosque and
you set the alarm and when and when the alarm goes. Instead of
the ring that we in in the West might be used to the lights pop
on
and it's my favourite my favourite trinket that I brought
back from Iraq
Yes, not bad enough that when you're in one of these cities
with the you know, 500 mosques all cranking out the call for
prayer at the same time as loud as they can that you'd have a
clock to do it inside that was
made in China. I might point that makes
sense. Yeah. But they have Yeah, it's it's anyways, this is just
it gets very noisy. But you know, the funny some of those
guys can really hate it. There actually are some Yeah, I've
heard some of these guys actually have they're very
pleasant voices. It's very, it's a very melodic screaming, but
some of these guys wow, that's kind of cool. I should record
that. But it's echoey it's distorted often.
The distortion bit just always kills me. Like yeah, no, I just
I don't get it either. I don't know why they you know, can't
tie it down. I
think that they like it. They're like Hey, that sounds good.
Yeah, the sound engineers go hey, man, dude, you had some
awesome sound yesterday on your show. It was really cool. I'm
telling you.
i That's what my thinking was when I you know because of these
call for prayers all being distorted.
Speaking of that, did you see this thing the oh, I want to say
it's the Kareena and I forgotten the name. It's an iPhone app
that is on the iPhone store. And you hold the iPhone up with the
glass touchscreen side up you hold it between two between your
thumbs and your four fingers very much like you like you're
getting ready to eat a sandwich and you blow into the
microphone. And then it has basically four keys of course
they're virtual on top.
They actually we blog site doing Stairway to Heaven.
exact maybe I saw it on your site. Yeah. Oh, man, that thing
is awesome.
blowing on a microphone is not such a great idea.
But but the instrument it looks it's a real it's a space age
cool type instrument. I mean, it's, it's for me that was like,
I don't know, I just It blew me away. I'm like, wow, that's a
really interesting instrument they've created. They're out of
an iPhone.
Yes. Amazing. That platform is just astonishing. So I went to
cost talking about platforms. So I went to Costco yesterday to
get something. And so I go past the you know, I'm always when
you go to Costco, you first thing you do is you go, and you
look at all the flat screens, and you go, Huh, and you and
they have actually the 42 inch plasma from Panasonic, on sale
for 699 bucks. And I remember when the first 42 inch plasma
was shown at a CES show, gotta know 15 years ago or 10 years or
whatever, some time back. They were $40,000.
Yeah, and this was maybe only five years ago, I think
was a while I think we're we're we're under estimating the
timeframe, but it was, it was a $40,000 because you'd asked him
well, then you know, we only make a few that 40,000 bucks.
And these were the 42 inch because at original plasmas are
only 42 inch, and then they got bigger. So he so now I'm looking
at the exact same technology probably improved quite a bit
for 699 bucks. Wow, I know. It's amazing. But anyway, so. So
there's that I still think a 50 is about the size I wouldn't
mind having. Anyway, so the I go around the corner and they have
all these laptops for sale. And we just did a thing on cranky
geeks complaining about you know how Apple's overpricing their
laptops and down economy, they're gonna probably, you
know, it's gonna it's gonna hurt the company. And they were you
know, they're gonna know what these things are selling for the
apples because they didn't have any there but there there was a
credible
let me let me let me guess the price. Let me guess the price?
Well, let me
describe the machine person and you tell me the price. All
right, it was a credible 15 and a half inch full keyboard full
screen beautiful machine with 250 gigabyte hard drive. But
double DDR memory. It was a gateway. And it was just it was
it was like if you're gonna buy
a laptop, what's the processor speed processor speed it we had
a dual core
some it was fat. It was fast. Yeah, I bet didn't have the
exact speed on there.
But So this obviously does not qualify as a netbook, which is
what everyone's talking about. Not it's not a netbook they had
netbooks there, too. I'll say I'll say a 299. No, well, that's
Well,
that would be nice. No, it's 599. And I thought it was for
the, for the machine for what it was. And it also was a good had
kind of an enamelled bread case. It was gorgeous. Yeah. And it
was fine. Yeah,
no, I've seen these. These are the ones that are the you can
get in all kinds of different colours. Yeah, yeah, no, there's
a big push for this. They're they're advertising them all
over the UK. I think it's really, really pushing a younger
market did it seem like that from the store model and
just had them all lined up? It wasn't, you know, they weren't
doing anything fancier than that. But I mean, the more
expensive ones were like 899. And they were loaded. And they
did have a netbook there. And the netbook was 399 It wasn't
299. But they had a net book for three night, which was you could
actually use it had a little it was little, but I'm thinking 599
For this laptop was like, wow,
I stood in line for three hours for the
for the Google phone. And that was a little throwback to you,
my dear.
You made a joke on tech five about that?
I did. Yeah. Oh, but people standing in line knots standing
in line for the Google phone.
Anyway, so I got the Google phone. And what I'm most
impressed with, it's useless as a phone that it made. It's no
battery life has a whole bunch of things really wrong with it.
But the operating system.
Interesting. Boy,
well, if my understanding is that the Android operating
system is open source, right. And which means that gates
transportable that seems to me like a fantastic operating
system for. Net, let's just call it net devices. Could be a net
book or anything. Just I was pleasantly surprised by how much
I could have got actually get done with the operating system.
And take into account if you well, really, anything I would
do on a computer because of the integration with the Google
services. So okay, so you know, I needed to create a Word
document, you know, even though I know you're not a big fan of
cloud computing, but I can see certainly, in fact, the other
day I don't use Google Docs very often if at all, but I didn't
have my computer with me. So fired up a browser and open up a
Google Word doc and you know, saved it and it was quite
convenient for for the point that I was using it which is,
you know, not like real office, share document type stuff, which
is what office three maintains, and links and integration etc.
But just to write something, and I could see how the Android
operating system would fulfil the needs of maybe as high as
90% of all computer users, you know, you take all that, well,
consumer computer users, let's put it that way. Well, the thing
is, you know, design I mean, this is they realise that this
is a platform. So yeah, it could it could happen when we we can
transition this sort of thing.
I wouldn't mind it just as if I had a little netbook type thing
that I carried around. This is the kind of stuff I would want
it to do. I really would I don't want to I saw what happened with
Windows smaller, because I had we knew I had that god awful
smartphone for a day, which I gave back to Chris Cravens
crying. So please don't make me do this again. So making window
smaller, literally smaller in execution space or whatever, as
well as display just doesn't work. It needs something that's
built from a different mindset. And I think they've got
something going on there. I was impressed.
Well, good. Steve Ballmer came out and said that it was a dead
end. And it was they could never make any money.
Because it's an operating system. He doesn't want people
to replace his operating system.
Apparently not. Maybe he should replace his operating system.
That's what I'm thinking. So but anyway, so the phone Yeah, I
haven't heard any, nobody's buying these phones. I mean, you
know, I think the phone has potential, it may may sneak up
on Apple. But it's almost like a replay of the history of the
computing business almost like a fractal. We have like Apple
coming out with like to do with the Apple two, with a new device
that is a in this case, the opera you have kind of a
computer nook, tablet, computer, a new platform, the iPhone, and
they, you know, kind of own the place for a while. And then the
guy, you know, the PC mentality comes along, they're more open
and less rigid, you know what to sell through the Apple Store?
All the advantages, you know, you just need a couple of
credit, you just need one or two, you know, killer apps. In
other words, something that in the case of the apple two, it
was dominated when it first came out with VisiCalc made the apple
two and started the personal computer revolution. And as soon
as Lotus 123 showed up on the PC, the whole everything
shifted.
Yeah, I had jazz that those guys, there's
jazz and symphony. Yeah, those guys got denied. But jazz was
also done by Lotus.
Huh? You're right.
I remember when we took our company public in 1996 was a
huge problem, because the entire legal and financial system would
only work with WordPerfect 4.1. And it has to do with the
formatting. And of course, we were all on Windows 95 and
office 95. And, and the amount of time and subsequently money
that was spent on transcoding documents from an office format
to a word perfect format was hundreds of 1000s I'm convinced
goodly transcoding is a problem that's never gonna go away. I
mean, we have to do that with our data. We're putting our
stuff on like CDs and that's I mean, I'm still have so I'd be
everyone's who I find some old CD. Oh, I forgot I even had
this. It was a backup of something. Put it into a worried
Yeah,
I have tapes. I have our wedding tapes. I have many, many
television shows. You know, they're all on us VHS or worse.
You know, I have some on U Matic. I even have foreign two
inch and four inch BNC reels. This is you can't find players
for him anymore.
Right. I know, everyone's scrambling to get those old
Ampex. There's only a few those Ampex, you know.
Yeah, the two inch forehead machines. I used to, I used to
calibrate those and they taught me how to do it. As you say, you
put your tape on you get your bars up, right and you get your
scope going because you had to calibrate it on an oscilloscope.
And then you actually had to kick the machine bottom left,
just a little like tap there and then you started moving the
knobs and it worked and that's how you calibrated them
delete one of the probably were the last few guys that can do
that.
And here's something I was talking about the guys that are
studio with me vo headquarters the other day. They were like,
you know, shining lights around and moving stuff and was shining
into the camera. And I said you know there was a day when if you
did that if you shone a light into the camera, you will
probably have a camera operator come up to you and hit you in
the face with a fist. You write down your throat because it
would burn into
the actual tube to vidicon tubes. Yeah.
And we had a guy whose job he was called the shader member
those the shader the shade. No, but I know what they did. Yeah,
the shader would sit in the control room, along with a
vision mixer, as they call it then and the director and the
assistant director and the audio engineer and the tape ops, or
sometimes tape ops were in a separate compartment and the
shader would have let's say you had five or six cameras And he
would have all of these almost like throttles on on an
aeroplane or a ship, these big controls, and he would sit there
and he would be continuously making the light level he would
be shading the cameras so that you didn't have one, all of a
sudden it was really light and the other one was really dark.
And also, you know, he would protect as much as he could all
the other equipment from a big light burst back in
that during that era, that's a Christian they had a, you know,
before we came with CCD technology, which doesn't have
this burden,
what Ron said was chips, it was like, Oh, my gosh, we can you
know, we can do concerts, and we could go back in the day, you
you can still probably rent old contracts where you see a camera
move across the lights, and then for at least 15 or 20 seconds,
you'll still see the trails of the lights in the in the video.
And the tube. Yeah, I know it's a real problem. But did that's
where the idea of you can't wear white shirts. That's right. So
you all you can't wear a white shirt, you have to wear a blue
shirt. And people should notice that most people still believe
this is true. But in fact, you can wear a white shirt. Well,
let me let me just change that it does, it does change the
aperture sometimes because a lot of this stuff is automated. But
let me just let me just jump in that for one second. We were
watching the MTV European music awards two days ago, Kanye West
who always has to have some big production number. They they put
down some note their ballet floor, which was it was a kind
of in the centre of the audience stage was black the whole
evening, they roll out a white ballet floor. He came out
completely dressed in white except for a black tie from head
to toe. And he had white shoes on. He looked like a floating
head. It was the funniest thing is sometimes you I mean, if
you're doing white on white, it doesn't work. I don't care what
you say.
Yeah, no, I'm sure you've done. I don't recommend people wear
white. I'm just saying you can do it. But in the olden days, if
you were white, you'd burn out to tube flare. The other problem
is, you know, white, and there's still illegal colours that seem
to have issues with even when the CCDs are called illegal. And
there's a red that you can't use because it flares it doesn't it
won't your camera can't focus on it. And it says, And the problem
with some of these reds is they have a and you'll see this if
you look at Chapman actually call it a flare, fuzzy edge.
They call it a flare. And it does still occur. Usually on
location shoots when the sun is coming from a weird angle and
they have of course has all colours of it in the in the
light spectrum. And you get a flare and then you have to block
block it off somehow.
But yeah, in the olden days, yeah, you're right. These guys
were not happy when you put a light in the camera,
though, they would literally knock your teeth out. Because
they were responsible for it.
So that's our old debt. Ladies and gentlemen, is our old time
broadcasting anecdote.
Well, I've got plenty more. But it was fun because I literally
Trent you were probably around when they still had three or
four lenses on the camera and would twist them. Instead of
zooming. Tell me it's not true. It wasn't
on TV, then my wife, Patricia was actually when I was a little
kid in Chicago, I would go to WG and I believe and then because
they had an open studio with it with a with a kind of a gallery
that you could go and watch. It was the first all colour station
when they were making the transition from Black and White
Station in Chicago. They went all colour right away if you
want for some. Well, I'm
sorry 1951 I
think? No, no, it wasn't no, it was it was later that was later
it was it was much later than that. I don't think that colour
thing began until the mid 30s At least 5657 is when it started.
Anyway, so I go I would go in there as a little kid and I
would just sit there and watch them do TV. But they had those
old clunking I mean they had the first colour camera those things
were huge. And they had the big crazy lens. They didn't have the
zoom lens yet which is you know changed things a lot. But when
but it is it's a throwback to when they first tried to do
HDTV. And if you went to the CES show when they when they were
doing analogue HDTV was never caught on I think the Japanese
invested heavily into and lost their pants. But they had the
the HDTV cameras that were for analogue were unbelievable. They
would look like a 70 millimetre kind of gave me they were huge,
monstrous monstrosity monstrosities and you can just
see oh man, these guys aren't good. Nobody's going HDTV if
they're gonna have to buy these cameras. And it but it reminded
me of these huge clunky colour cameras that they used to use.
Anyway, there's so
much there's so much that has changed so quickly and I've seen
how some of the Patricia has gone through most of the change
pretty well because she she always jokes herself saying that
she's from the Bakelite phone era era, which of course you
remember those John Bakelite phones. I remember them I had a
Bakelite phone and My room I still
have one Yeah, sure. No and with no HR wind down I mean, I think
they're collectible. There's just the coolest phone. Yeah.
And the carbon based and of course it was Rotary. Remember
that when we had to turn a dial to connect to someone know that
John?
No, I don't know when when was that? I must remember remember
prank phone calls and you just dial a number at random that
culture has gone man. That's gone.
Well, you can still doubt phone numbers at random but people
don't do it, do they? Because you can email people at random
you can text people at random is no fun. Like our lives are too
filled up with other shit. No time to play pranks. Unless, of
course you're calling Sarah Palin and pretending foreign
dignitary. Yeah,
well, that was good for five minutes of attention. So there's
also thing called caller ID and laws against prank calls Frou
Frou.
That's what I'm saying, Man, the culture is gone. All the good
stuff, all the fun stuff. We had joy. We had fun. We had seasons
in the sun.
Really? Yes. It's I guess we're running out of material.
No, I could talk. Well, I'm still miffed that you say that.
I'm putting my reputation at stake by saying we shouldn't
just throw bombs at people for no reason.
No, I never said that. I said that fact that you're defending
the Taliban. You're putting your reputation at stake.
Online. Here's the only thing I'm defending the poppy fields,
we're almost gone under the Taliban regime. When the
coalition forces moved in, they move back up to 120% capacity.
That's all I'm saying. See any jets lately that crash that had
coke on board that have a government seal on the side? You
shouldn't Google that.
Yeah, yeah, you should google that. A jet crashed with Phil
with coke. Bluebird Coke is not the same as heroin. Part of the
world.
I'm sorry. You're right. That's that we've got our hands all
over that too. Now that's a heroin coming from Afghanistan.
And the other flights are always coming from. There's a whole
scheme for this. For this drug running. It's around contracts
the same thing.
So if anybody wants to see a good movie check out is really
fascinating. Actually. The movie is a documentary called Cocaine
Cowboys. Oh, detail. Oh, J was on HBO recently I watched it was
just like just a jaw dropper, because it did tells the entire
story. Arizona thing? No, no, this is mostly about Florida.
And including the era just before I guess it was before
Ronald Reagan during the Carter administration. You could just
basically fly tonnes of cocaine into the country land. And you
know, the cops were in on the deal. And you could you know,
dunloe with my promise, there was no
yeah, this is what Doc McGhee Bon Jovi's manager was caught
for. And he had to do that for you that, you know, that benefit
concert in Russia, but I went to it because his jet was flying
shit into into Florida.
So it's a very fit, but they have a lot of the players that
didn't get killed. And then they talked about this crazy woman
who was like, boy, this is frightening, horrible woman who
was like the Kakapo of the whole scene down there at one point,
it was just a blood thirsty person. And it's just a really
interesting documentary. And but they two or three of the guys
that were obviously heavy into it, or you know, you know, they
went to jail, they came out in it and they were like, narrating
a lot of this. And there's anecdotes are just fascinating,
because it was just one thing after another, it just and he
also, you know, discuss the Miami Vice stories and how they
were bold, because you know, this would never have been done
that way. It was then a dead end with long descriptions of the
mechanisms of, you know, bring something in and not get caught
and and ignore we could point the finger at you. And it's very
interesting.
Grizelda Blonko, also known as La Madrina, the godmother, the
Black Widow and the cocaine queen of Miami. Her man, she
looks gnarly. Looks like she looks like she could be on The
Sopranos as a guy.
She's a she was a mean person. And they she disappeared.
So anyway, so if you follow all those lines, was there any
mention of the Bush family in that because the Bush family
definitely had they had planes and all kinds of stuff going on
there during that time.
There's a lot of good stuff in it. Just watch it knew. But the
bushes I don't believe were mentioned. Okay.
Would you burn that to a discriminator?
For five days play it again?
Oh, you didn't record it? No. showery?
Well, I didn't you know, I didn't. The reason I didn't
record it is because I didn't catch the very beginning so it
comes up again. So I
can't I can't get either my daughter her boyfriend or my
wife to watch for his crew. was rock with me. So I had to watch
it alone. They they weren't interested.
We think it was okay.
What I told you earlier in, in the hallway the other day, I
didn't like that they cut between, you know, 10 different
concerts? That's no good, because it's very difficult.
It's hard enough, you know that. It's almost like turning the mic
off during the audience reaction to the joke. Yeah. Then he tells
a joke. And then they cut to a different audience reacting.
It's wrong. It's a wrong rhythm. I didn't like that at all.
Yeah, it was it seemed a little corny. And what was the point?
But obviously, the way he ended up that was very funny. You
know, the takeaway, which basically it with, with all of
Chris Rock's material is women, you need to you need to perform
oral sex on us. And ingest, that's basically the takeaway.
It was fun. Yeah, it was funny.
Yeah, well, once he got off the political stuff, that was not
funny. I thought he was a little too political at the beginning.
And he was like preachy, and I don't, you know, I don't like
watching a comic to be lectured to, you know? Well,
it was less of like, humour about the current situation and
more like, like a, you know, like, he was really trying to
tell a story, it was unnecessary. He doesn't need to
do that. Just tell some funny jokes.
So anyway, the the other thing was a couple of other things
that you need to watch, I'll try to get you some copies. And I
don't know why Cocaine Cowboys thing shows up all again, which
it should I'll see if I can get a copy, we have to get some
sling boxes between the two of us. Yeah. And send with the
code. So we can look at each other's television sets, well,
particularly
so that you, you can record stuff. That's really what's
cool. If you can control my Skybox or whatever I'm, I'm
going to set it up right on my end when we move so So beginning
of the year, I'll have it all set up, I'll have the sling
I'm going to have one set up in Washington, because I like to
Canadian television shows a lot of this hour has 22 minutes is
one of the best. I love that show. That's great. And so I'm
going to try to get that and then I'll hook up one here and
then you can see the thing is because we're on different
timeframes, you could actually watch my TV remotely when I'm
sleeping and you can you know, see what's on HBO or whatever
I'm Behalve and as I have pretty much everything of the of the
Dish Network and I set pay per view and and then you could you
know I think it's inaccurate if I can do that because you'll be
sleeping What if I could control your set you know with because
there's a remote control thing right? Well
I'm giving you your own set because I don't want to be
watching my porn and then all of a sudden John's like flipping
the channels and shit I don't think so.
No, no and you're robbing Did you disable that? I mean it's
there's no reason for and by the way I've not used the up at five
in the morning or you know we'd be watching TV well that's
what I'm watching porn
turned out that changing the channel
and don't be changing the channel. I'm giving you your own
setup dude.
Okay, fine. I don't have a problem with that view. I'm
gonna make it right for you. And I'm gonna make it right flip the
switch. So yeah, that's a good idea. I think people should just
do that in general you know you can kind of keep up it'll be a
little more universal that's what the IPTV supposed to give
us. This is essentially you know, a precursor to IPTV or I
should be able to just go online and punch up you know what's
going on on the English TV stations and get it out right to
my said immediately I don't see what the why is a big deal to do
that cost
and cost of the experience you can get a British TV on your
computer and it'll be a small screen and you can but to stream
all that shit and reasonable A and we want it in high def right
because what do we have the high def TV set for its costs we had
this exact same conversation on twit when I was last on it's
too much eventually things no i No
no, no, eventually things come down it doesn't matter. Things
go down things go up cost comes down then oh let's do HD then
all of a sudden the cost is up again. I know what this shit
costs man. This is bandwidth is nothing free Leo Laporte
bandwidth does not free attention attention.
I think is standard definition is fine. Even for standard
definition, and then you want the experience to but you don't
want any buffering when you when you switch channels. So you need
humongous pipes. Now,
it's not you're not see you're the old man here.
No, I'm not the old man. I'm being realistic about cost. I'd
love that. You kidding me? I was straight. I was streaming audio
in 1993. On Sun Microsystems machines with the PCM codec on
56k modems, I built my first modem out of carbon out of
Bakelite phones actually and called Bored. I had an acoustic
Monday on my Vic 20. And before that I was programming on my Zed
my Zed X ad. Most people don't remember that one the Sinclair
they knew this. They know the Zed x 81. On this edX 80. Dude.
We call them Z. Yeah, but I'm
International.
No, that's British.
as well. It's the South African to as good as as good as
splicing Sinclair's computers were man that that bike thing of
his that electric car that sucked.
Remember that? Well, he was a one hit wonders from what I
could tell. I met him a couple of times. He's a nice guy. Sure.
But one of the best. One of the best law he had his
disinteresting line somebody caught him I fight for one of
the writers I knew got him to follow me quote, asking him
because he was into simplicity. So they asked him so Clive way
using an eight bit micro, there's a transition taking
place between eight and 16 bit computing. And so he says,
Clive, why are you using an eight bit microprocessor? And he
said, because I couldn't find a four bit
as funny.
I have his original calculator. Oh, the Sinclair calculator.
Yeah, little bitty thing with a good time. Weird.
A lot of cool. Oh, I still have the the Zx 80 somewhere. I've
got. I've got my Vic 20 This is a stuff Patricia hates. She's
like you keep schlepping all that so yeah, that's my museum.
When I die, then you know, some kid will
die. She'll throw it out.
Along with my high school T shirts and varsity jackets from
college from the radio station. My uniform from Iraq. My
camouflage my stamp collection. So it's all gonna go. It's gonna
throw it all out. I have my first cell phone. The one of
those big giant bricks. The I got the big. Got the big brick.
Doing that stands up. Yeah. Oh, I've been wanting to collect one
of those.
Yeah, it has a really puny battery in comparison to his
size. And it never lasts for that long.
Right, I would love to get one of those big stand up bricks,
and then kind of retrofitted with a real cell phone inside
and use it.
There was it's weird because this one here's what I did. This
one had a connector on the back, which was a standard rj 145 Jack
or whatever, for a car kit. And I found out that if you plugged
in the Bakelite phone handset. Actually, that was the that was
not the big light anymore was plastic but just you know
regular handset one of those, you know black and black
handsets that would be on the wall unit, or like a payphone.
And you plug that into that because it had the same kind of
Jack, you plugged it in, it would work. And so it would be
in my car, and I'd be talking on a regular phone on a regular
handset.
It was cool.
Yeah. Probably safer for you than putting that big device up
against your ear. So
I have my original they call it a mobile phone. And I have this
in the ad one. And the mobile phone was essentially a four
channel two way radio with a huge wattage on it is like 50
watts or 30 watts or something, you know, reasonably strong. And
you had this mounted in your car and you have to call up. And
you'd have to call up with your callsign mine was the mobile
operator Anton 3414. Units. Yeah, yeah. 3414. And the mobile
operator would dial the call and then you'd be talking to someone
you'd have to say over Are you doing good over? duplex? I'm on
the way home over.
Yeah, that was the days of the mobile phone. Actually, that's
one of the problems you have, you know, in mobile phones, they
used to have these things before the cellular system was
invented. Did mobile phones and they had high wattage and people
would buy these digital very expensive, it's like 1000s of
dollars and 1000s. Yeah. To have it in your car. And and B they
were never very popular. I mean, because they were so expensive.
And you know, what was the point? In
fact, in fact, they were they were frowned upon by most. Oh,
what are you so fucking important? You need a cell
phone. You're in your car, a car phone or phone? Now we call that
our car phone?
Call it a car find a car phone? Yeah, no. And then what?
Culturally changed. Now you can't get people off these damn
phones. They're just yakking all day they're walking around. You
can see there's like everybody's got a phone to their head and
they're not talking to each other either. They're everyone's
command. They've got the bluetooth earpiece on and it's
like a science fiction movie. People walking down the street.
They're beaming in that checking in. I mean, don't we realise
that we are living in Star Trek.
It's kind of I just don't I'm not, you know, I don't think you
need to be that plugged in. I don't think it's healthy. No
can't be camp but anyway so people are yak, yak, yak, yak
and constantly. And if the if they're not yak and then they
got the tube earbuds in on AI pod and they got the sound
cranked up so loud, you can hear it across the street. And of
course, there'll be deaf shortly. And you know, they're
completely you know, if you wanted to say something to
somebody on the street, like, Hey, watch out for that curb.
Boom, down they go, because they're not listening. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, the thing I can't walk down the street, not listening
to the to the traffic, I just, I consider it to be dangerous. And
I take the train first class from Waterloo to Guilford. And
it's only one car. But no matter when you're travelling in this
thing, but particularly going back like on the 730 it's filled
with people multiple always have a cell phone, a Blackberry and a
laptop and they're on all three. Everyone's working everyone's
Jack, then, you know, the phones are ringing all the time.
It's, it's disturbing.
is totally disturbing is like, what are you getting out of
this? You know,
and you're used to having guy that wouldn't have come by and
he had papers and stuff, right? They don't have that anymore. No
one's buying papers.
I've now I still buy the paper.
The paper is actually more efficient than the laptop if you
want to really plough through a lot of material.
Hell yeah. It's lighter than the MacBook Air.
Yeah, except for the
weekend edition of the times.
Yeah, actually, the fact is that we're building in in
efficiencies, and liking it. And it's kind of disturbing.
Thank you, ma'am. I have another. That's right now we are
we're good slaves. John.
That's what it is. We're good slaves.
And we're ready. We're ready to be told what to do. Just just
send it to my Blackberry, President Obama, President elect
Obama, and I'm ready to go. Just tell me like and I'm waiting for
my small business credits.
Yeah, there you go. That's that's what I'm waiting for. Who
else? Are you sure which way
tops the top of his agenda now is at the top of his agenda,
credits, r&d credits for small business, creating jobs in
America. But doing all that providing health care doing all
that the check, check, check ticks all my boxes, I'm ready
for my credit. Other people need help with a mortgage. I don't
need that. Just me my my credit for the work we're doing as a
small business. That's all I'm asking for, then I'll be a
believer.
Yeah, you'll get your credit.
Oh, my tombstone.
So I think while we're waiting for that, I think people are
waiting for the show to end
ship. That's my cue.
Hey, John. Let's bring that up another time again. That was
kind of fun.
Hello, yeah. I'm in
I'm shocked.
Boy,
boy. I don't know. I don't know if we because I find that um, I
don't know if I'm shocked more by the loving guns at Iranians
or the way you eat with your fork. I think the fork might
actually have a slight lead.
I'm gonna take a small movie of my eating and then we'll let the
public decide.
Yes. Oh, you like it? Thank you man may have another you want to
be slapped around by our audience. They will tell you I
will take a small movie of my fork utilisation.
Yeah, with the pinky up or down in your
ass. Actually, that's where I was thinking would be a good
spot. Hey, John. Yes. I love you. I really do. All right.
Coming to you from the affluent suburb of Surrey, in Guildford,
where we use our utensils properly. My name is Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak coming at you from stab city in the
northern part of Silicon Valley. We'll talk to
you again next week unless something important happens
right here on our agenda.