are so close yet so far away it's time once again for no
agenda coming to you this week from Gitmo nation West in two
locations overlooking the Financial District and the Bay
it is the curry condo where I'm coming from. My name is Adam
curry.
And I'm up here on the other side. I can see it from here
with my binoculars.
Let me wave Hey, John.
Fall out the window. i If only
I had a window to fall out of that's the only thing wrong with
this place.
Anyway, I'm over here in Northern Silicon Valley. So what
you don't have a window? Is it your is it? Like, there's no
light coming in? No,
no, no, I have 180 degree floor to ceiling windows here except
the only window you can really the only two windows you can
really open to get fresh air. I'm on the 24th floor by the
way. And one is in the bedroom, which is nice. And then here,
there's only one kind of like that, you know, rectangular
window that that just opens up from the bottom and gives you
some fresh air. That's the only thing wrong with this place is
no real access to atmosphere, if you will, which
once you drop it, you know, because you're in California,
here we drop in pennies out the window and hidden people
that was and this is a one bedroom, the two bedrooms have a
balcony. That's really what I want. But you know, who knew who
needs a two bedroom place when I'm only here? You know, once in
a while.
I think you should lease the place out when you're not there
to hookers?
Who says I'm not doing that? Oh. It is the perfect place for in
calls. Oh, my goodness. All right, John loads. We haven't
seen your net yet. Even though I've been in in town for a
couple days. You've been in meetings all day.
Yeah, most of most of the most of the days. But we're really
getting some cool stuff cranking next week, less meetings more
doing some. I'm excited about that. But we are having dinner
tonight, which is quite well planned, actually. Because I'm
glad we didn't have dinner last night. Otherwise, we'd have
nothing to talk about.
Ya know, that? Well, we wouldn't have been able to do it. Because
right, because we had to watch the debate. Yes, we
did. Yes, we did. You want to start off with the debate? Is
that where you want to go? Right for?
Well, I don't know. Why not. I mean, you know, I think a lot of
people, you know, there's a guy, it's a lot of suggestions saying
that we should be streaming our commentary during the debate,
please, which
just every once in a while, you could say something I think you
have to be but you're probably right, because I was actually
watching mode. I watched the debates on all the channels to
see the difference in the presentation because they did
press present. Everybody's slightly different than the main
networks had. The guy's pretty much the same. But they were you
know, blocked in by the big logo.
Hold on a second. But it was a cool video feed right there. It
wasn't like everyone had their own cameras in their own
switching. It was it was one
there was no there was obviously there was the everyone had their
own switching because
switching but not camera shots. The shots were predetermined, I
presume? I think the
shots weren't. But there was a bunch of these fix shots. And I
think people could flip between them because I saw I because I
was watching simultaneous. I could see Oh, and the weird
thing about it. By the way. Is that the sound delay?
Yeah, that no delays, I noticed that too, as I was switching
around, it would be one or two seconds difference between the
channels.
And they were all different. Yeah, yeah, I didn't find any
two that were synced up at all, which I thought was peculiar.
Well,
I thought about that for a second. And then I was like, it
actually is kind of logical, because if they're all switching
if the if at all getting these feeds, so they're getting, you
know, from multiple cameras, and I presume that they were, I
don't know, if they're getting multiple audio feeds or just one
make signal. But that's all going through their own digital
trucks, their own processes, you know, each system is works a
little bit differently. And maybe, you know, maybe someone
wanted to have a little delay on there for some reason, in case
they want to jump out of it.
Some of them were pretty long delays. But anyway, so I noticed
the but anyway, they're pretty much the same except for CNN and
C span C span had, essentially the close ups of the two guys on
a side by side split screen. And that's all they did.
Oh, that's nice, because then you can get all the reactions,
you can see you can see the grimaces and and you can count
the amount of times Obama said that's not true, John, that's
not true, John, that's not true. John kept saying that. So what I
did is I stuck with one channel, I stuck with CNBC. I'm not quite
sure why but I always feel like those guys are kind of honest. I
don't know. I just I will. I'm sorry. I left it on CNBC. But
what I did is I paid attention to the language, I really paid
attention to what people were saying, and what I, in some
cases presumed to be code.
And yeah, there's a lot of code. So anyway, I was I first I
checked all the different channels up and I ended up
watching it in HD on CNN. Because CNN had I am so happy,
because just ask your question. I could not tell on my screen. I
don't have an HD screen here. What was on the pan that Obama
was wearing? Was that a flag because I couldn't tell didn't
look like an American flag. It looked like a flag to me. Okay.
It was was illegible on it was a crappy looking fly it was it was
a lame hole flat.
But that's if I remember it was a flight because it yeah, he was
in anyway they were in high def what was interesting was the it
was distracting. And in fact it was hypnotic. And I think people
who watch this thing on CNN probably didn't really get the
same effect, I had actually had to turn it off a couple of times
because they had a graph running at the bottom of the screen a
lot of real estate. They had a graph running at the bottom of
the screen that showed a real time focus group. Oh, and
you could see who was like and who's head of like a blue line
and a red line, one of those those three lines,
and there's a blue line, a red line and a green line for
independents. And it was the green line. That was
interesting.
Yeah. Because that was that was the sway right that had the most
movement of that. Yeah, and
the blue line and the red line. They just, you know, wouldn't
bow Obama spoke that blue line went way up, when because both
they flipped and that red line was it was predictable, right?
It was unbelievably ridiculous. Once in a while the all the
thing would cut their beak, some confluence, and it would all
become one line. And that was interesting. But Obama achieved
that more than McCain did. Unless except when McCain was
doll. So and or when Mick Latham whoever time McNeil or midlayer
whenever time delay or spoke did thing took a nosedive? It was
hilarious. You
know, he was pretty interesting, because first of all, he did
something which I thought, you know, I'm sure they all agreed
to this. But I really do not like when you have a public
performance of any kind. Let's face it a debate is a public
performance, where you start off by saying the audience is going
to shut up. No applauding No laughing No, no, no applause No,
no, no nothing. And that's, that's like, ah, and you know,
and so it really made it uncomfortable, because I thought
John McCain actually was a lot looser than Obama made, you
know, he's very, he's very comfortable when he gets kind of
into his jokey mode, which I appreciate, I have to say. But
everything fell flat, because everyone was afraid to snicker
or to laugh or to do anything.
Well, I, I'm in a disagreement with you on that. Because I The
problem is, is that when you don't try to shut this audience
up, you end up with a loaded audience. Because so dealing
with one one side or the other will stuffed the audience with a
bunch of shit.
Why do it? Why do it at the University at all? Why not just
sit in the studio and have it a month be a much more controlled
environment? I mean, that's useless. even see the audience,
it was so dark. Well, it's useless now.
They did laugh once in a while the audience wasn't dead silent
the whole time.
Here's here's the here's the one thing that really that my ears
pricked up when I heard Jim say, I wrote it down here. So how are
you? How is your policies going effect going to affect the
country? Or the way you? Oops, are you dialling out?
No, that was by kick the keyboard.
He talked about the candidates ruling the country. And I was
like, you don't rule the country as President to you? He said
that he said, he said rule the country. How was it going to go?
He said, Yeah, when
I have this on tape, I have to go back and see that
this was right after McCain was talking about the 45 nuclear
nuclear plants. And then I wrote down affect the way you rule the
country, so I'm not quite sure what he was talking about. But
he asked the question, how will this affect the way you rule the
country? And I was like, there's not a king. He's not royalty.
It's like you govern the country or you leave the country or, you
know, your your main actor, I don't know. But it's it's not
rule. I have to go back and said if he said that, that's That's
embarrassing.
I thought Yeah. Well, so I mean, that's, you know, that's
what I mean. I'm sure that you know, no offence to the
Democrats out there, but I'm sure they'd like to have a king
and McCain, could he be any more inaccurate and outrageous, the
way he talked about whenever Israel came up, you know, the
Holocaust, you know, Medina jots which I thought was hilarious.
guy's name is not on the agenda jawed it's on Medina jawed. You
know, this guy wants to obliterate the stinking corpse
of Israel. Now, look. I already believe that the translation of
that famous line of you know, we want to obliterate Israel. I
already think that was quite an exaggeration. I think there was
some nuance there that was probably purposely translated
incorrectly. But he certainly never you know, Ahmadinejad net
certainly never spoke of, you know, the stinking rotting
corpse of Israel. I thought that was pretty inflammatory. I was
like, Man, that's
uh, you know, looking at the graph, let us go over what let
me go over the things that I noticed that based on the graph,
I only took notes but based on that said, they did get one I
was looking for some quotes, talking about language. I got
beauty from Obama, which has to go into the into the flood but
one of those flood websites. He says the following word for word
700 billion is potentially a lot of money.
Potential only potentially
is 700 billion isn't potentially a lot of money. It's a lot
of money. There was there were a couple of real zingers some
really McCain man he kept coming so first of all everyone's
saying this Wall Street to Main Street Wall Street to Main
Street can we shut up already Main Street makes me think of
Disneyland and the Main Street Electrical Parade.
One of the commentators on one of the evaluation shows after
the you know, one of the
I watched none of them I hate those I didn't,
all of them and so the one of the post mortems somebody
mentioned that McCain never won said middle class.
Yeah, I can't recall him saying middle class. Now he was talking
about Main Street and of course, Miss Congeniality, that's my
favourite that he's doing. He's using whites twice. Yeah, I'm
Miss Congeniality. No, you're ugly. That's why he got Sarah
Palin dude to balance out the ugliness factor.
Well, he also did one thing I wish I go back and I'm sure
it'll be on YouTube. He got a there's one thing where he gave
a long winded response does became a shaggy dog story. Then
he kind of wandered off the topic and then he tried to bring
it back. It was a complete botch. I don't I don't remember
what that I'm watching. But what the hell is he doing? Yeah. So
okay, here's the here's the deal with the up and down graph. What
In other words, what got the most effect? And then the main
thing by the way, only Obama managed to really spike this
thing. He only did and he only did it once. He almost did it.
Almost did it twice. But the main thing here's a couple of
things. That I know isn't it just this is on McCain's graph
in terms of the independents, which are the swing voters.
earmarks get got nothing and he find when he started talking
about corruption, though the word corruptions tended to boost
his numbers. Corruption really got him some good numbers when
he taught and then when he talked about kids, he said
double dividend for kids that got him some numbers when he
started talking about education, which he didn't do much of when
he talked about nuke nuking anybody down down. Yeah, of
course, we talked about getting if he did a nuke jobs nuke and
it was really weird DC he talked about nuking and then things
start diving. And then he started talking about jobs,
nuclear power. And he says, Oh, these are nuclear power and they
start going down. But it'll give us a lot of jobs that went up
and then it went back down again, because they went back to
nuke. Oh, that's funny. When he talked about partnering, it went
down when he used the word partnering when he talked about
911 and fix it and I can't remember what this was about it
went on up Yeah. And when he talked about no more torture it
went up and which means that people were concerned about that
yeah, but every single time he attacked Obama head on it went
down Yeah, believe that and here's the thing that got me and
I've talked about this before is that if you listen to right wing
talk radio guys, they say especially Rush Limbaugh who
this is one of his litanies, he says, you know, the thing is the
Democrats always have a negative and negative negative approach.
They never say something positive about anything. And
that's their problem. We always have a positive message in the
Republican Party. I didn't see it in this debate. And let's go
over Obama's graphs when he interrupted and attacked McCain
the few times he did he you know he went down down Yeah, down
instantly
didn't know what he did say consistently which I thought was
very interesting. He would start off many sentences by saying
Well John is out you're absolutely right John and that
became
a an immediate advertisement 20 minutes before the end of the
debate,
but you can't actually say you're absolutely right except
you know, because you're if you're absolutely right, you're
absolutely right. There's no you can't get no
point of discussion. That's the end of it right? Yeah, no, I
thought it was crazy. I thought that was a dumb language. But
anyway back to his ups. Here's where he got the big numbers
that's damn near spiked 200% He talked about it
I wanted to guess go ahead go ahead. Go ahead. What is it
like give away energy independence really she did a
thing about energy independence and then brought automobiles
into we got to have more efficient cars we got to get
into diesel BIOS a very bright he brought a very positive
message message and actually when when McCain mentioned this
stuff he got a boost to but the way Obama phrased his he spiked
it and that's
how we're the graphs whenever because of McCain talked about
veterans a lot very purposely nothing nothing didn't spike at
all.
No interest no that's nothing but this was served as energy
independence and Carsten spike so much I might notes here I
have two up arrows and the word Wow Okay, now the other ones
here's the other ones. He got a boost not not doesn't like this
one. But he got an up arrow on fought on 30% something by 30%.
I don't even know what this means. But they started talking
about health care. If the way he did it, you got up arrows. And
he got a huge up arrow when he started talking about competing
in education. Education gets big numbers. When he here's another
one.
How about the fight I had because I started off with the
financial crisis or
stuff did nothing right. worse
for the earmark DOM was such stupid sheep
corruption got some numbers, but that's it. That's and that was
McCain.
I love it where McCain is going to fire the SEC chairman. I
don't think he actually has that power.
So ruler,
I got through.
So here's another here's McCain or I'm sorry, Obama kind of get
flatlined on health care, but when he changed from health care
to r&d, boom, boom. r&d is important. Another one he
started talking about vet care because he was giving anyone to
slam McCain because I think McCain voted you know against
some veterans thing. Yeah. And he starts shows he started
talking about vet care it actually went down nobody cares
about the veterans in this country. No, that's you know,
well but but the tradition by the way, but you need them right
you need them to win an election. Yeah, really.
Okay guys some more. This is the last couple when he mentioned al
Qaeda and going after him bald nothing zip flatlined. Image
torture was took Him up again, he brought up in torture a
little bit up. No more attack every time he tack McCain down
and and here's the one that get the end, they had a Truven went
off against each other McCain got nowhere. But here's the one
that got Obama big spike, again, relating back to what Rush
Limbaugh says, Obama started talking about American pride,
and how we can you know, get our reputation back in Europe, and
we are the greatest country, you know, he started with this
positive message. We're this great country, and we shouldn't
be respected more, and we have pride and blah, blah, blah,
boom, big numbers.
Unbelievable. So, so I was just listening to language, as I said
earlier, and what is the what's it called? When you when you
take a phrase when you say like, this isn't the beginning of the
end? It's the end of the beginning that has a has a
definition a term what is that called?
I'm sure I should have just repeat that.
So when you when you construct the sentence where you switch
things around so you'll say this isn't the beginning of the end?
It's the end of the beginning. Yeah, I don't know what that's
called had does a name because that McCain is doing that a lot.
I'm noticing
Yes. I don't know what the point of that. Oh, here's one more
note I took on the back. I gotta mention this is interesting.
Obama and it's not about the numbers. It's some Obama said I
thought was peculiar. Obama said, By the way, McCain also
got an up arrow when he started bitching about the pipeline in
Russia. Obama's settings goes on and on and he says isolationism
doesn't work. We can't go on and I you know, because McCain's
pushing the idea of just cutting off Iran, isolating them, you
know, embargoes and whatever. And Obama came out and said,
isolate doesn't work. We should stop all these embargoes right
now. And then he named all the countries and curiously left off
Cuba, knowing it would piss off everybody threw it in. I thought
it was chicken shit. Yeah,
I learned a couple things I learned from our host, Jim that
only one of the one of them can be president. One of you will be
president. So there's no independents apparently running.
I mean, I know it doesn't matter because they they never get
invited to the debates. But I just thought it was kind of
crude to just say that. And he was really trying to, you know,
in the beginning, it was like, address, Mr. Obama addressed me
on trying to get some fireworks going, you know, trying to
trying to get that which I think was part of the whole make the
audience Shut up. Because what I was also looking for was the
soundbite. You know, what are the sound bites and from a
general showbusiness perspective, this was just
boring, John, it was a really boring show. It was not.
There was no, there was no moment where where somebody you
say was saying one? In fact, I do. I don't know. Who do you
think won the debate? I would.
I would say Obama by a hair.
I would agree with you. 100%. I think he won by hair. But he
did. But it was a draw for all practical purposes. What they
agreed
on everything. They agreed on everything there was McCain any
good. And by the way, when I thought well, Obama was actually
a little smoother at the beginning. McCain was, besides
Obama making weird, you know, he talks a little like John Kerry
is a little long winded. Also McCain McCain was clearing his
throat constantly like a nervous guy. Well,
what was interesting also is Obama started out looking right
into the camera. When he was answering his questions. He was
so aware. And he then in fact, throughout the entire debate, he
looked into the camera, like must have been twice as much if
not more than McCain. I thought that was interesting to notice.
Because then you know, when you look into that camera, you
really are talking to someone sitting at home, you know that
yeah, it just works. You know, it's it's media training. 101
And I had a couple of things that are interesting to note
that McCain is so sure that the French will come and support us
in in Iran. I would beg to differ. They actually speak
French in Iran. You know, it may not be that simple, Johnny Boy.
Obama kept saying when I'm President of the United States,
I thought that was, you know, well done. McCain didn't say
that once. You know, which is, you know, that's that's really
that's mind control. You know, it's really important to say
that stuff when I'm,
when I hear somebody say that either one of them I find it
totally offensive.
Well, that's not that I don't find it offensive. But I think
it's interesting that he's saying that and I think most
people at home, don't find it offensive, but they just pass it
over.
I would like to do a poll on that from our listeners. Yeah.
But
our listeners are not your typical American listeners. I
don't think John, they're the ones that are switched on. We
need the sleeping people. And I learned something very important
that the average height of the South Korean is three inches
taller than the North Koreans. Yeah. They really are
suppressing those people, aren't they? Are they putting the
brakes on their head or something? That was hilarious.
Like talking about tall Obama appears to be right. rather
tall. Yeah, he is. He does not tell us you know, we know.
I think he's, he's up. He's up around six feet has to be
No, no, he's over six feet. Looks like he's about six to six
degrees, like about as
tall as I am. Probably. And at the end there on CNBC, they left
his mic open. I don't know if you heard that. But he you know,
so Michelle comes up. First of all, they were congratulating
each other, you know, like, almost like WWF you know, like,
Hey, that was a good match, man. Yeah, you really threw me into
that cage. Good. Okay, great. John. Yeah. Great Bama fan?
Yeah, it was like the hell was that?
Oh, I didn't know this. Yeah, cuz I didn't need the mic on
where I was. Well, yeah, no, they
had the mic open. In fact, Michelle Oh, came up on stage.
And you heard Obama go, oh, how do we do? How do we do? Which is
exactly what you know, it's what what what my wife says to me, or
what I say to her after a TV show, you know, and, and I'll
say, how do we do Han Han? How did it look? You know? How was
it? How was the show? The Big Show? So anyway, and not a
single word about the, the, the, you know, the temporary
cancellation of the debate or anything like that it wasn't,
you know, not a single thing. Not a single thing.
I think that was somebody pointed out one of the guys
wait, there was something they were supposed to pound home.
Dammit. I can't remember this, because I didn't take a note on
it. But one of the guys and one of the commentators in the post
mortems said that and it was one of the it was one of the I think
was Fred Barnes on Fox. One of those guys they said that McCain
was supposed to go in some direction on this economy thing
to because of something Obama did and he was supposed to use
it as a thematic thing. And he didn't do it and they think it
was a complete botch was, of course Obama was supposed to
equate McCain more with Bush.
Yeah, he definitely tried to, to make it sound like this was just
a continuation of the past eight years.
You know, the thing that I think if we boil it down, we go back
to what we said earlier, it was a boring debate that probably
had a huge audience. Because everyone to see these two guys
go at it. I think it's gonna be up to Palin.
Oh, my God.
It's gonna be a problem because she has not performed well ever
since they started coaching her. I think that you know, instead
of coaching her to be natural, they've coached her into being a
robot. And I'm totally convinced and I wrote this in an essay
that's on the divorce iq.org/blogs So you can look it
up. It's called, you know, as McCain surrounded by idiots, and
it has to do with the fact that he stiffed Johnny or Johnny
Carson, he stiffed David Letterman, and Letterman within
laced into him. You know that that night and the night after?
Because it was bullshit, because he said they had to fly back to
Washington. So I cancelled the show with one totally, totally.
And then he didn't even go he went over to Katie Couric and
spent the night in New York and Steny went to next morning so it
was all bull. And then meanwhile, one of his dumb
spokespersons Come on say well, we didn't think it was right to
do a comedy show Yeah, with all this you know, going on right.
Meanwhile,
when when when Katrina hit, McCain was sitting there with
Bush with his birthday cake laughing and having fun.
The point is, is that you know that bowl, this was stupid
29 point 5 million viewers. It's not bad, but let me see if they
compare it to anything if there's a comparison to because
they thought it was going to be as big as the Carter Reagan
debate. And there you go again, why he made
that was the line that got Reagan elected everyone thinks,
Oh, I know. I don't remember that. I'm not that old John
speaking of old I am so tired. And I see this all over the
place on CNBC. Was it what's the guy mark, but the kind of chubby
guy who's like their main their main anchor? For Squawk Box
bars, yeah, no, wait a bit. I'm sorry. It wasn't. It was no it
was Keith Olbermann, he he plugged
into Ober is not on CNN.
I know. I know. He's an MSNBC, he talks to the girl, the woman
who she has like really thick horn rimmed glasses. And she's
from I want to say she's from like, a real serious
publication, maybe Wall Street Journal, maybe New York Times, I
can't think of her name right now. You're not helping us. But
she and I know. But she really and I see this all the time
about John McCain's age, and it's really starting to piss me
off.
It's ageism, it well,
it's it's to me it is I'm not quite sure why maybe because I
had you know, my friends, my wife, and you know, they're all
60. Maybe because of that, but to me, it's, it's it's almost
like, you know, race discrimination based on skin
colour. It's like, what the fuck is that about? It's really
angering me.
Yeah, well, I think it's working a lot of people. But I have to
say one of the pollsters, I think, is the guy who works for
Fox, because the name is Lutz. And he was one of the better
guys. And in terms he does, right audience response stuff,
too. He says that the that the, at least now, generally
speaking, the older voters who come out in droves, by the way,
compared to younger voters, the older voters are not skewing
necessarily toward McCain, although they made as the
election approaches, because I think what'll happen is that
this ageism thing will keep coming up. Because these guys,
you know, I mean, I find it weirdly offensive, because the
Democrats are the ones who are wanting, you know, equal pay for
equal work, and they're against sexism, and they're against
racism, and they're against this. But what's, why are they
all of a sudden, all all ages,
and in a country where you cannot conduct a job interview
and ask anyone their age, you cannot even say When did you
graduate college? Because then from that you could deduct
someone's age, if you don't hire that person, they can sue you
successfully in court for age discrimination. Exactly. I mean,
how is this possible? And from really smart, I would presume
intelligent people, it's just, I'm just not glossing over that
really easy. And I'm not that old, but I don't think 44 And
I'm fueled. It's like, that's not okay. It's just not okay.
Right. And I think it's gonna continue because they that they
don't have really have any, you know, they don't know, I don't
think they're very creative and how they go about their
campaigning. That's why I think they keep losing these
elections. And I, you know, this thing, even though Obama keeps
putting himself into the lead, you know, the whole mechanism of
the Democrat party seems to keep you know, making it more even
and then that's one of the things they do. And they have
learned something from this from what happened on this debate.
And I'm quite pleased, though, with the with this financial
crisis, the the rescue plan, formerly known as the bailout
plan, is that Dr. Ron Paul is getting massive airtime on every
single station with huge amounts of respect, because of course,
he's been predicting this for years. And by the way, another
guy who's in his 70s, I might point out, although you never
hear anyone accusing him of being an old fart, you call him
a nutter and a kook. But
I never said he was another I call him a cougar.
But it's fantastic to see how much traction he's getting in
his message. I'm really pleased about that. And and what blew me
away. And I can only only think that this thing is that it's a
setup, it has to be some form of setup that the House Republicans
walked away and said, We're not going to do this. We're not
going to vote for this. That blew me away. I did not I did
not expect that.
Well, here's another thing going on. It looks like if you start
doing some work into this, or look into this, this this
bailout thing that the Democrats by the way, I
totally promoting totally behind Well, yeah, they're totally
behind it. They're totally promoting. They're the ones that
that control the purse strings of nobody's noticed for the last
two years in Congress. And you know, they, they want to give
all an end within this money. There's a whole bunch of pork. I
mean, they made it first and it takes $700 billion of the
taxpayers money. And it's not just for bailing these guys out
to throw a bunch of social programmes that acorn things
gets a couple million or more, or God knows how much, you know,
which is the thing of Obama worked for. And it's like, it's
just like, the whole thing is rife with fraud and corruption.
And it's ridiculous.
I heard someone call it the no banker left behind programme,
which I thought was kind of funny. Did you ever get a chance
to read the Brzezinski book?
No, I have not gotten to it yet.
I really, I really want you to read that. It turns out that
four of his sons are in pretty key spots. Now it really is Zig
new Brzezinski is is the advisor for Obama on Foreign Affairs.
And I'm just looking at this article right now because I just
got a hold of this. And his sons have very interesting Oh, So I
can have very interesting spots within within politics. Let me
just bring this up. I'm sorry for some reason I fucked it up.
Here we go. His son Mark is the director of Russian and Eurasian
Affairs at the National Security Council or was under Clinton,
and one of the prime movers of the 2004 colour Revolution in
Ukraine. Ian Brzezinski currently the US Deputy
Assistant Secretary of State for European and NATO affairs and
backer of costs of an independence NATO expansion into
Ukraine and Georgia and US missiles and Poland. Nika is
political commentator on MSNBC is Miko must be his daughter is
not a son, I don't presume maybe it is a guy he had, who it says
here who was interviewed with Michelle Obama contributed to
the general media, Obama, Obama mania. And Matthew is us envoy
of the Czech opposition. I mean, these guys are so entrenched
like the shadow government it totally Well, thank you. This is
why you need to read this book. You need to read it because
it's, everything is all spelled out, man every single week. Do
you have it? Did you order it yet? Did you get
my order? It shouldn't come it should be coming on Monday.
Okay.
You'll enjoy it. You really will. Because I know that bit by
bit, John, and people are sending me messages about this.
They're so happy that you're waking up to the true reality.
Me the same message is saying for Adam, he's going to be
locked up in an insane keeps going this way.
Oh, they're both right. Oh, man. Let's see. Okay, I'm kind of
done on.
Yeah, we're done. Forget those two guys can relate to the Palin
thing. We'll do the show after that.
When is that? When is the when's the when's the vice presidential
debate
next Thursday? Oh, God. Fantastic.
I'm looking forward to that. Because I, you know, obviously
Palin interests me enormously. And, and we talked about this
last week, you know, she went to the George Bush Training School,
where she's told taught to speak in bursts of sound bites, which
are directly from the Talking Points Memo. And it's so easy to
confuse her because it's one thing to talk like that when
you're in the Rose Garden. It's another thing when, you know,
you're being interviewed by Katie Couric, you know, that
just doesn't work.
But she's got to be more personable. I mean, the whole
thing about her, it seemed to me the reason you'd be attracted to
her is because she seemed very personable. Now the thing a good
example is, you know, they have this, you know, this negative
YouTube video of her in a church. One of the guys seen
that, yeah, and she's very personable. I mean, yeah, she's,
you know, obviously,
a pretty good speaker. You know, she's
she didn't have any trouble talking in that environment. And
when did she become a robot? She now she's stiff. She never had
she just never got any back and forth. And in my argument about
this is when she was with Charlie Gibson, she had this one
answer she had for one question Gibson asked him about what
happens if Israel bombs Iran, what would we do? And she said,
I don't think we can second guess what Israel does was not
our position to second guess. So Gibson asked the question again,
a second time reworded. So she says, the exact same answer. So
he tries the third rewording of the exact same question and she
she says it again exactly the same way the third time. Now,
why doesn't she say, Charlie, you're asking me the same
question over and over and over like, what politician was my
answer? I mean, I it's the same question. I give me one answer.
You want the same answer? 20 times. I mean, what's the point
of that? Why does she do something like that? No, she
robotically says oh, those we've done our job to second guess.
Oh, it's not our job to second guess. I mean, this is not a
conversation this is no back and forth. She's just getting She
looks like an idiot. Have you
considered that? Maybe she is a robot and the robot come on if
you've been chipped man, I'm telling you these fuckers have
been chipped one one day you'll understand. Anyway, that's gonna
be a good one. I can't wait. We might even have to do a show on
Friday. Or maybe or Thursday night because we if we do it on
Saturday, Oh, it'll be too late. Maybe and we might have to
couple of the things that last week we talked about me and my
gold, which I got a lot of response to but I was not that
crazy. As now Fortis Bank, which is was was my main bank. Looks
like they're going down the tubes like
my wife says to me when I told her about the gold bar. She says
I hope Adam knows that when one of these banks falls they shut
it down and they locked down all the safe deposit boxes and you
can't get your gold
that's why it's not at the fortress safe deposit box
because then I wouldn't have had the ticket with me what I now
she
thinks that you should just paint the thing kind of silver
coloured, so it looks like on the floor is a doorstop.
That's a good one. or make it a brick colour and just put it
into the wall or something like that. Yeah, that's a that's a
good that's a good that's good.
I had a guy friend of mine I used to work with years ago who
was a gold prospector and he collected quite a bit of gold he
must had about a few pounds of gold in his house at least. And
he turned the gold into picture frames and painted them black.
And they looked like cheap as picture frames was robbed the
place they would that's the last thing they take are these
horrible looking picture frames?
That's funny. Well, you know in the in the meantime, I'm not the
only one thinking this way because the US Mint has now said
we don't have any more 24 karat gold coins stops we're out of
them. They've been bought up everyone's saving the shit.
Yeah, that's what happens when people get panicky
by panicky man I'm just smart and unprepared.
Prepared. Always hit somebody with that brick.
I'm very prepared. I wanted to ask you a chemical question
knowing your background in in chemical engineering or whatever
it is, you seem to have done so much. That was a chemist Yes,
you were a chemist. Well I'm I'm a chemist better living.
A real chemist, not a chemist. Better
Living Through Chemistry is my moto. This melamine in China I
want to understand a little bit more about why Melamine is used
why it's showing up in milk and it seems to me like this is
probably a much larger scandal that is going to be unravelled
and that it's not just in Chinese products and probably in
other things that have to show a protein count I mean if you
follow this at all
on and off I remember when it when it first became scandal you
don't you don't care about babies dying. No, I do care
about babies dying. But you know, I just that that cropped
up on the radar. It's some sort of thing that confuses tests.
Yeah, it shows a higher protein count in didn't exist the
product. Yeah, but But it's poison. Right. What is melamine?
Well, let's find out. Oh, okay. I
thought you might No,
no, no, no, no, this stuff is just like, you know, there were
a few I was not in the food industry.
There was even a scare going around that. That there was
melamine in Oreo cookies. Which was at Kraft I think who makes
them they immediately jumped on that one and said no, no,
there's that. In fact, there's nothing of any value in Oreo
cookies. Please do not be alarmed. It's just lard. It's
coloured lard. You're looking at melamine. Yeah, I'm
looking at Wikipedia has got a pretty good little thing on it.
You can check it out there.
But is it what is it used for it's just really
it's a plant some it's a bits of product used to make plastics.
A product to use to make plastics and then putting that
into food.
Yeah, it's interesting because it's you it's combined with
formaldehyde to produce melamine resin, which then get it becomes
a thermo setting plastic is one of those things that you use.
It'd be you know, I would see this and yeah, China would have
a lot of this because they're okay. They make. Yeah, yeah. And
the plastics, I mean, the Chinese. In fact, the Taiwanese
in particular are the world's greatest plastic told me this
was they make they do I would just years ago, I was went to
Computex and I was looking at some, some routers that somebody
had, were selling it was some company. And these things were
gorgeous. And they were the reason they locked together in
some funny way. And then they were all plastic and it was just
the coolest looking things. And they were all beautiful. Because
they said Go ahead. I'm sorry. I asked the guy where the cases
are. He said we couldn't get these somehow in the
conversation. We couldn't get this produced in the United
States because nobody can do injection moulding like the
Chinese and they you can take him a prototype and they'll make
an injection moulded version that just dynamite
somewhere there's a there's a CEO of a Japanese plastics
company he was saying oh, I watched this movie The Graduate
graduate. Okay, that went over everyone's head I'm sorry.
Anyway, so I don't think it went over anyone's head but we talked
about the Chinese anyway. So
we're even shorter than the North Koreans oh, god you know
so anyway, so I guess all kinds of
things but it's not getting into it there
is because it did shows up in a test
it but that's poisoning people
when I don't think they mean to. Okay, now the Chinese Yeah.
I will say though, that my my warning signals about the
Gardasil, the HPV vaccine for cervical cancer, thank goodness.
Now mainstream media is picking this up eight, eight girls have
died already. I think in the UK. 1000s have gone into
convulsions, nausea, joint pain. Now this is bad, bad shit.
Why don't you review us on that because you haven't brought that
up on this show?
Well, I did, but it was a couple of weeks ago. So what I noticed
because I kind of scan three news sources I'm looking at the
UK I'm looking at continental Europe mainly through the
Netherlands, which of course report It's on Germany and
France and a number of different countries. And of course, the US
News. And what I saw is simultaneously I saw this big
push towards this vaccine for cervical cancer and the and the
way they're dispensing it. And by the way, it's, it's a
combination of three shots for the treatment, combined about
five or $600. So, yeah, and it's made by Merck. So you know, and
who, of course, have a pipeline problem, because all of these
products that they already have, or you know, their patents are
expiring, and you can even read it right there in their annual
reports, which I think you'd enjoy. John, you can see how
they have billions in the pipeline for the pandemic flu
virus, and this is one of them. So it's, it's in the plan. And
and you see this simultaneously being marketed to 12 year old
children, girls only, which is interesting, because boys can
also carry this virus. And it came up at the same time, it's
being dispensed through schools, they're trying to make it
mandatory. And when I saw the commercial in the UK, it just,
it blew me away, because it's really hip, you know, it's like,
and Christina and I were laughing about it, because of
course, it's targeted towards girls younger than she is. So
she's starting to see through this stuff. And it's like, Hey,
I'm on my Facebook, I'm on my MySpace, I've got my mobiles,
I'm doing my hair, I'm going to school, ya know, cute little
tune there. And then and I'm gonna get the jab. And then I
have a little fake tattoo, I got the jab, you know, complete mind
control of this drug. And now, thank god schools are saying,
No, we're not gonna, we're not gonna let this be injected on
our premises. That's the same as endorsing it. And we don't know
anything about it. And now children are dying. They're
dying from this shit. They're dying. And it's and you know,
it's and the way it's market is like, oh, take this shot. You'll
never get cancer, you know, but that's not what this is this.
This HPV is a sexually transmitted disease. And every
3000 girls who have it 2000 boys have it they're not getting any
vaccinations. And so it's it's a obviously a huge ass money
scheme.
Yeah, well, there's 500 bucks. That's an uncommon, huge,
it's huge. And you can scam. It's not just a scam. It's a
it's a scam, and a travesty. Thank you. So And luckily,
though, I'm seeing more and more. Mainly schools and parents
just saying No way. Just not not going to do this. And I'm so
happy because 1000s of girls are getting sick from this and eight
of them have died.
But that's somebody's on it.
Yeah, there you go. Do you? Yeah. How about Warren Buffett
though? Pumpkin 5 billion bucks into a Goldman?
Yeah, I thought that was weird. Interesting, huh. I guess
that'll save the company. I think they gotta keep Goldman in
business. For some reason. I think there's something shady
about them.
But well, first of all, the general even Cramer was saying
this the other night. Everyone on Wall Street hates Goldman
Sachs. I'm not quite sure why but they are generally hated by
other firms. But it's very clear that Goldman they just, Paulson
just hired another Goldman guy to advise him, you know, he of
course is also a Goldman so he was the CEO of Goldman Sachs. I
mean, Goldman Sachs is clearly there is a shadow government.
Yeah, yeah. Not just that, but they're the spider at the middle
of the web somehow, or at least of the financial web. Now
there's somewhere and so we have Washington Mutual, which went
down was
pretty weird. My wife was really concerned about the show. How
can the government do that? They just say you're gonna do this. I
might, you know, I don't haven't heard a good explanation for it.
But I have a theory Well, I think that they think that at
some point they were given a I think some sort I think they
must have gotten some government money with it with the proviso
attached what stead of turn something around and the
government could just take them over and tell them what to do.
Well, but they haven't been taken. The FDIC is running right
so no, no,
no, but they didn't I know they just say here here. Here's the
deal. You guys are going to do this whether you like it or not
like it like when they made Bank of America by those guys. I
mean, the whole thing is weird.
And now in the UK, the largest mortgage lender about to go
under was it being in Brian Bramley or something?
Yeah, I don't know who they are. This mortgage thing is not over
yet.
Now this is this has got to be just the beginning. No,
not the beginning. It's the end.
Oh, please. You feel the bottom yet John.
You hit and see the market go below 10,000. It did bottomed
out, bang, bang, bang, just bouncing around the top of that
number right around 10 with 10,400. net shot back up to
11,000. And now it's just stabilising.
Right. But it all depends on what's going to happen. So I
presume that they are actually going to pass a bill and the you
know, the, the way I see it happening is they're already
positioning this and saying well, you know, we'll give you a
couple 100 billion and like like it's chump chump change, give me
a couple 100 billion. And then if you want more, you have to
come back to the to the trough. And but the really interesting
thing is about this oversight, you know, the no court, no
committee, no, nobody can look at what we're doing. That's the
thing that I'm interested in because that power, that's
that's the scary, the Evil Shadow Government power.
They need to be sued. There's also something else going on
this kind of interesting, the EFF is suing the government over
a new Copyright Treaty, really? A new treaty? Oh, boy, yeah,
there's some new Copyright Treaty that's floating around
and they won't divulge its contents.
The government won't. Right. If you're kidding me.
And you know what that means? It means it's like one of those
European was the Brits have a couple of these things, where
it's against copyright law to divulge the contents of the law,
because of some, because in there, there's a bunch of
provisos that, you know, there's a bunch of new they're given the
WIPO people have been trying to do this for years, I've written
about this at least a half a dozen times, where they get they
put a copyright law together, one of the things is to protect
patent, you can't even talk about the patent. And to protect
this, you can't even tell you can't talk about the law that
protects the patent from being talked about even and it's just
as ridiculous onion of, of kind of you can't do this, you can't
do that. And it's part of the law, too, you know, and it's
just to me, it's like, this is stems back to what you can't do
the reverse engineer, you can't reverse engineer something. I
mean, that's it stuff like that is in these laws,
the anti the anti counterfeiting trade agreement, ACTA. That's
what it's about. Canada announced 2007, as a partnership
to combat counterfeiting and piracy, that the US and several
of its trading partners view as critical threats to their
business. And the cause of billions of dollars lost in
revenue annually. Is this China thing, maybe because of the
headcount? That's the problem. I
don't know. Because we can't see the we can't read the bill.
Crazy about you know how to make doughnuts for all we know.
Crazy. I mean, so I don't know what it's about. I'm just
saying, once they somebody gets the bill release, so we can
actually read it. We can figure out what they're trying to do.
So you know, there's something like that's going on. There's
some they're trying to pull a fast one. There's no other
reason to do something like that.
It's scary. Now, there's a whole thing here on EFF. Wow, it's too
much to read now. But yeah, I would talk about it later. Yeah.
A lot of countries involved. Switzerland, Japan. European
community, Republic of Korea, New Zealand, Mexico, Jordan,
Morocco, Singapore, United Arab Emirates, Canada. I wonder, I
bet you I bet you it's a pure information thing. I bet you're
right. Yeah. I think your your instinct there is is spot on.
This is about being able to even you know, maybe it's to combat
the Freedom of Information Act.
either. I mean, we don't know, like, crazier things have
happened. We're good. We can guess until we're blue in the
face. And it could be anything, it could be something really
weird. It could be just something stupid. I mean, who
knows? I mean, hopefully, we'll get this thing. You know, some
judge somewhere along the lines will say what is it? What's
this? What is this BS? And then, you know, make them reveal? Of
course, they won't right away. See, okay, well, we'll have to
find it first. This is the kind of thing this is a game that you
still didn't fight, they still play this game in Silicon
Valley. And I'm always surprised when somebody doesn't know how
to play the game. But it could I've been involved with enough,
you know, as an expert witness, in enough court cases in Silicon
Valley to know how it's playing. It's quite hilarious. And they
go and basically it goes like this. And let's say we take two
companies like AMD and Intel, for example. And so they made
some agreement. And Intel is supposed to provide AMD with
something and then all of a sudden, they just say, you know,
I think we shouldn't be providing this anymore. So AMD
will sue Intel. And then the judge will say will will first
is a lot of stalling and bunch of court to take the case takes
forever to be resolved in in a judge okay, you have to give
them the documents. And so then Intel gives them the documents,
but they don't give them the real documents. Again, phoney
documents, it takes like six months to figure out these
documents are no good to the wrong documents. Sorry, go back
into court and the guest and then in the end.
Oh, hold on, John. Hold on. I hate this demo. All right, I got
your back now. Okay, sorry about that. All of a sudden, it just
got static from Skype.
Anyway, so like this, this, this kind of thing goes back and
forth and back and forth with a bunch of game playing. And by
the time everything is finally ordered or you know, kosher and
the documents is too late because we the technology and
everything else has moved on, like by a year.
So what I learned here is that you've been an expert witness
and the These types of court cases. Yeah, I have, like an
Intel AMD come out.
I've done a couple of I did a whole bunch. I've done
something, you know for the guys that were that were being sued
by Hayes modem. I did a modem case I did. I did if I did the
287 chip case, I did something about, there's a keylock thing.
And somewhere in Denver, I did a case I've done about maybe 10 of
these things I did know I was going to be an expert witness
for Rodney Dangerfield, actually, and then he died. He
will know he won this case. I mean, it was one of these things
where sometimes they'll bring somebody like me in to be you
know, just to scare the other side, the other side got scared.
And
this is like your, your lawyer buddies, or, I mean, do you
know, Rod Rodney Dangerfield? Or how does I ever met him?
No, but have a check signed by him. And I made a big blowup of
it. And and then I did a I did the linspire case where
Microsoft was suing lindows. And it was it came down to the end.
And then Michael Robertson ended with a pot full of money, they
changed the name to linspire. And actually, I had a deposition
in that case, I think was probably the thing that was the
best in the case, to be honest, but I don't do it. I don't
solace I you know, there's a couple of these agencies that
will ask me to put my name and I don't normally solicit this
work, because it's actually kind of boring and tedious. It's
totally boring. But I'll tell you, what's cool about it is
that you get all kinds of insight dope. That's the only
reason to be honest about the only reason besides the money.
And there's some money to be made. But there's you find out
weird stuff because these lawyers have access because they
do discovery, right? And so they they find out all kinds of crazy
things. And it's like they tell you about them and you go wow,
what
do they do they train you like they do with medical witnesses,
like a medical doctor. Okay, here's what I want you to talk
about. Here's what I don't want you to talk about. Here's the
direction you should take your answer into the do that. Yep,
totally. Yeah. There's your there's a system for you to come
to America, people. If you got money, you can win.
Well, basically, they don't do it in such a way that they tell
you what to say. Because you get grilled by the other side about
that they the other side will grill you about Did they tell
you to say this? And they'll grill you if you're if they do
it? You can't lie, right? You can't lie? No, you don't lie.
You don't have to? Because you're not brought into the
case.
But if they know but if they say Did they? Did they tell you
about this? Do they tell you to say this? You have to say yes or
no.
Yeah. And they and generally speaking the way it's set up,
you can det you know, you're never really told you just It
goes like this, you if you're going to be an expert witness
you go and you for one thing you're like, it's like getting a
just like a job interview. You have your opinions about stuff,
and then they almost like they grill you. In other words,
decide you're working for it, then they'll see what your
answers are going to be for the different kinds of questions.
They'll never tell you to say anything. And so but they'll
they figure out that yeah, this is your first I read the case.
So I know what the case is all about. And then I figure out how
to give the the right answers. So I don't like say something
stupid. And then I only answer yes and no to the certain
things. And I only talk about, you know, typically an expert
witness a lot of people don't realise as an expert witness
only has one point to prove usually, like one single thing
that has to get into the record. So you so you would be there to
say something about something that's specific, and then you're
done. That's it. And even though they'll grill you and try the
other side of grilling, and try to make you say that you are
mistaken, or you know, you're stupid, and then they try to
just embarrass you. They try to find what you're educated. They
ask you about your education, the other side, the competitors.
They ask you about your education, and they asked you
about whether you really should even be an apple. Yeah, that's a
discredit. You're right. Yeah, they bring up like for my case,
I'm usually you know, I get all these columns. I've written
1000s of them. But you know, some unbelieving, they'll
pull something out. Well, in 1923, Mr. DeVore, ik you wrote
in CBS pre historic market, watch that.
Yeah, no, they do that. And then the worst part, the most
embarrassing thing, and I've decided this is fine. It just
happened to me twice and never gonna happen again. When you do
video depositions decide that you're working on because the
video deposition is gonna be seen by someone. They put makeup
on? Yeah.
So you look healthy and proper. You don't look like you're dying
on. It's funny because, you know, when MTV sued me over the
mtv.com domain name. I'll never forget Google. First of all,
they did discovery and this was in 1993. Okay. They did
discovery and they had like two interns were the only ones who
who had any knowledge of HTML, literally. And I had to bring in
all of the files that I had on the server. Now this server was
like a headless son three apt to DGX in in Virginia. So you know,
I spent like days downloading stuff and then put it all onto
floppy disks, if you can believe it. And they went through all
these files and they would literally come up with not just
say, Okay, well, this was this was a file that was apparently
on this server, whether it was public or not, right? I mean,
this was just the server was also kind of a dumping ground.
These are early days. And this was free. This was like free.
This was the web that just kind of come around. This is most of
this stuff was from there was a gopher server installed on it.
But then in these proceedings, they actually would roll out
videotapes of me on MTV, and you're like, Well, you were
talking about this in this type of manner. And you just think,
Oh, holy crap, you almost feel guilty sometimes. I am an evil
guy. You know, clearly I had not I had no idea what I was doing.
So scary is what was saying
about the one mentioned about the makeup as they put the
makeup on the show the other side, they compared they come
out and they start grilling you about the makeup?
Why are you wearing makeup? Exactly? Is that a problem?
Don't you think it brings up my skin tone?
Was you're always tempted to have a one liner like that. But
you've essentially you go up to and you say yes and no yes and
no. And then you make your opinion about something to use
your side makes you expose the information that they want on
the record, and the other side just does nothing but try to
discredit you in every imaginable way and embarrass
you, you know, try to make you out to be an idiot, you know,
that probably shouldn't even be in the job. You know, why are
you even here?
What kind of money can you make with that? What was an hourly
rate? Or how does that work
is a minimum the way I finally got the, you know, years ago,
somebody who is an expert on expert witnesses that you
basically you charge them up front, for, for, you know, you
have a minimum period, and then usually you never get to that
it's almost like a book.
Advance. Okay, okay. Miss Palin, please answer the question. What
kind of money are we talking about?
You can get depending on who you are, you get anywhere from 200
to two, probably $1,000 an hour.
Wow. And this is a while ago, was this still current prices?
And that depends
on the person. I mean, I don't get to $1,000 an hour, let's put
it that way. But there are people that do.
Good deal. All right. Hey, 530.
Well, you know, you're, you're
no, I appreciate the thought being me being on UK time and
everything at the at the Ritz Carlton. That's an interesting
choice. I had no idea they had an award winning restaurant
there.
I think the Ritz Carlton right now is one of the top three
restaurants in San Francisco.
So for those who don't know, John, and I, of course, always
try to have dinner together. It's going to be a couple times,
John, I'm here for weeks. I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying
until we got this these hosted channels up and running and all
the stuff we're doing so
right now we'll probably I figure we have a bubble dinner.
Three major. These two major I want to do with this one
probably have to be I don't know how we're going to do it. But I
still there's a restaurant in the city I haven't been to
called qua COI
I've eaten across. Oh, you haven't? Yeah, I think I have I
think a couple How long has it been around? Not long. Isn't
isn't it on Embarcadero. No. Oh, that I must be wrong. But it's
but isn't that Jesus? Wasn't that a UK restaurant? It was a
London restaurant called qua? COI. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Now I'm
thinking of something with a cube. No, I'm wrong. Okay, so
that's a major restaurant we have to go to so we should do at
least three and it would be great if you would cook for me.
Since I'm here all by myself. I gotta get sex from someone else
at the dinner. I figured I could least get from you. Sitting on.
Hello. Yeah, the tech guys were joking about that. They're still
sending me porn to hear for your weekend.
Yeah, it tells me cleaning up. So anyway, I'll do the dishes.
If you cook Don't worry, the dish I got a dishwashers only
the dishes clean. It's no problem. You don't seem
like a guy who would have a dishwasher for a guy who doesn't
have a microwave and figured me yeah, you probably like you have
something about no no
some of the greatest things which compact her but my wife is
dead set against my uncle
Don would always say I don't believe in any he's 80 I don't
believe in dishwashers because you handle the plates twice. I
always thought that was quite interesting. You handle the
plates twice. Yeah. Because you you handle them going in and you
handle them going out. So well. He feels that's not a good use
of his time. Clearly.
It's better to hold a plate from for a half an hour scrubbing it
clean. I don't think so what
I like is and I desperately want when we move I hope we can get
one of these if there's if it's the right house and space is one
of those dishwasher drawers so that you actually put the plates
back where you're going to get.
I know that to be honest, you know I did a lot of research on
dishwashers before because we had a dishwasher in this house.
That was one of the most advanced it was $1,000 it was a
it was made by one of these companies that makes all this
high end stuff. Stainless steel and then Olafson it had the most
water pressure of anything ever you know just RIP, if there was
something on a dish it would rip it off. And anyway, but the pump
kept blowing up and the thing was a noisy contraption. So I
did some research and I found, you know that if you start
really looking into it when you buy a dishwasher, you don't want
an expensive one. You want the cheap one of the cheap can
mores. And you want the following features. You don't
want stainless steel inside you want plastic because stainless
steel dishwashers make a lot of noise. Plastic dishwashers are
almost dead silent, it's amazingly different. You want a
new one, a dishwasher that has pushed buttons that are just
mechanical because if you if you
know electronics, and then none of that fucking digital readout
of the LEDs always burn out the handling messes up,
they get screwed up by the moisture and the heat just on on
off. That's what I like, yellow knob to that
guy. You don't need that, you know, but
the point is, is that you get these you know, just a basic
good quality dishwasher that holds wine glasses, you got to
make sure that the racks will hold wineglass especially the
upper one. And I actually when I buy wine glasses, always buy one
first and see how it fits. Of course you don't want some
but but these drawers, the way what I like about these
dishwashers, is his two drawers, either side by side, or
do we have pronounced that
word draw?
Is that rare? Or is where? Yeah, but anyway, go ahead.
I'm from England drawler. So it has two drawers, either side by
side or one above each other. And the theory is, is one of
them is is in use and the other one is then the storage. So
after you've eaten you put your plates away, you close it up and
you then you get your plates from the other drawer. And so I
don't know how well they clean obviously. But just the idea of
that's where the dishes go. I really really like and not just
dishes, the utensils, everything you know, it's just like a
utensil and draw drawer drawer. A drawer. I
can't even pronounce it.
Well. Yeah. I've been listening. There's a couple things you
pronounced differently. Another one is measurement where I'm
used to saying measurement. But you say same.
I don't think I've ever used the word measurement
use well you use the word major.
I measure it. You said to me several times measure it
measures your measures. Well, I have a slight Midwestern accent
so it comes out once in a while.
That's okay, we won't hold it against you.
The ones I had to correct because the family got sick of
it. I was I have to say, you know I say I used to say the
like you would say in Chicago I would say milk instead of milk
milk. Yeah. And then the other one was I finally I just changed
it said screw it. I'm gonna you know, I'm just I can say milk is
not that hard. And the other one was pelo instead of pillow. It's
pillow. It was from Chicago or if you live in Milwaukee,
where are you from? Palo where you're from? You're from the
Midwest?
No, but my mom and dad were and I did live in Chicago for a
little while when I was a kid right? So what can I say?
It's like people from Buffalo, New York. They also have very
interesting pronunciation
to a Boston let's go hit the home run here with we're
pronunciations.
Cat this whole country is just illiterate.
Not illiterate. We pretty much know what about Britain they got
the you can understand cockney, let me
tell you you can go to North Guilford and not understand
them. You don't need to go to anywhere like you don't have to
go to anywhere exquisite. That and I'm pretty good at it. I can
I can listen to almost any accent, any nationality, any
nationality speaking English, I can figure it out. For some
reason. I'm really good at that. But I look at Patricia and I
could just see you know, even though we've been she's been
speaking English with me for you know, 22 years lived in America
live in the UK, but some accents. It's just impossible.
And that's on television.
Well, I had a guy who when I was in high school, who was a I
think he taught German or French or something, but he was a
German. And he was a fascinated by a southern drawl because he
couldn't understand a word of it. So when somebody talked like
this, it was not it wasn't picking up a word of it. And so
I thought that was kind of interesting. But when I I've
noticed when I used to write for PC Magazine, UK, as well as go,
I would go to England a lot. And all these editors, you know,
we're all fairly well educated and they would sit around at
lunch or something. I couldn't understand a word that any of
them said there, you know, because they're starting to
Brits are starting especially the upper class was starting to
mumble so much, but also
a lot of what they say is very intertwined with local cultural
knowledge and stuff you know, that they refer to very quickly
that you just if you don't know what you're never gonna pick up
on it. Maybe like politics. Oh, yeah. everything they say is
there's always some irony or joke about politics or something
else that's cultural that's going on. It's, I love them. I
love those Brits. I miss them.
Now while it's expensive,
to say the least.
So how's the economy doing over there? I understand it's in the
tank totally
in the tank. Yeah, and everyone's just all the you know
the answer is drink more. Here in the States it's go shopping
in Britain it's it's drink more now it's totally in the tank.
The Gordon Brown does have this, you know, they had their big
party, who how shindig and they all get together and you know
there's been a question of should there be a leadership
change of course Gordon Brown saying, you know, no way I'm the
guy you can't switch to someone to a new leader and that net
from the same party right from the Labour Party not even
talking about a general election it's kind of weird the way they
can kick someone out and do all kinds of stuff and switch it
around. But the best and I recorded it of course, I didn't
bring it with me. I did record it for you was an interview with
Alistair Darling, who was the the the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, and it was about the financial bailout man, he is
worse than Bush the way the bullshit that comes out of his
mouth. He really just has no idea has no idea what it's
what's going on. And Jeremy Paxman, you
know him the journalist he's been come up in the
conversation. Yeah,
so he he interviewed with Jeremy Paxman is great, because he'll
sit there and he doesn't give a shit who used to go does news
night, right? Yeah, exactly. He'll laugh at you. He'll just
say, What are you talking about? You know, just start. It'll
throw his head back and roll his eyes. I love that guy. He's
really good at it.
The Canadians do that kind of interviewing, too. It's only in
the United States where there's there's so
deferential. Yeah. And we have to be so proper. Why didn't that
happen? Political correctness. Of course. It's doublespeak.
It's or the Orwellian age we're moving into. That's what that's
about. Absolutely. And, you know, and we all have to be so
proper, Senator McCain. You know, Congress, what is Palin?
What does she she's governor, Governor, Governor, Governor
Palin, just for one say, Miss Palin, Mrs. Palin. Sarah, just
for once. Like, Ron Paul, I
know you think we have the Queen of England over here with a
bunch of etiquette crap, exactly.
Well, according to Jim Lehrer, we do our next president is
going to rule the ruler and I gotta get
a sound bite when you rule the
country. Rules, right. It's right after the nuclear thing by
the 45 nuclear plants, which I didn't know about that plan, by
the way, plan for 45 nuclear plants? I didn't either. I guess
that's the energy plan.
Well, are they there's got that we got a lot of coal, you know,
they're glad people don't realise that we are the Saudi
Arabia of coal in the United States, we have 300 right now at
running it current capacity for all the energy needs that we
have. We have enough coal, if we just drop everything else, we
have enough coal to power this country. And that would include
making electric cars and using electricity to power everything.
We have enough coal for 300 years, 50 years.
So what's the what's the drawback of coal?
Well, he actually, there's not really a lot. I mean, you get a
lot of data come on,
there's gotta be some tax we can throw on something there's a
drawback
is, you know, they have there's, you know, it has a bad
reputation. Modern coal plants with with the floating bed do a
really good job of burning coal without creating a lot of
pollution. But there's still, there's still an issue with the
little Mercury getting out. And nobody wants a coal plant, you
know, up, down, or up wind from Yeah. And Georgia, you don't
want to plant up when you don't wanna be downwind of a coal coal
plant? Because it's just, you know, there's I don't think that
they've solved the, the odour problem necessarily. But you
know, I think combining coal with wind power. And I mean,
I've mentioned this before, I mean, I had on my old radio
show, real computing, I had the father of modern wind power, who
happens to be an American, who says that in the United States,
we're on generation one, well, everybody else is on generation
three and four around the world of the VA. And we could power
the entire US grid, all the power needs that we can have are
all doable. From North Dakota.
Yeah. Because the way I bring this up all the time, I think
you mentioned that before. Well, of course, it's not going to
happen because the shadow government and the energy
elites, that's not their game plan, and that, by the way, is
tied into the dollar and the petro dollars in the oil, so
it's never gonna happen. Of course, we could do it. And
that's why I'm about no bailout plan, fuck Wall Street, let them
burn, blood burn all the way up to the White House lawn. We're
Americans, we can figure this shit out. We are very
resourceful, and we have the resources. But we're just not
taking advantage of the opportunity to make this change
now. Great.
Well, it's academic, based on my thinking about this as a cycle
anyway, so it doesn't make any difference.
Yeah, it's just it bugs me. I have to say it bugs me.
Apparently.
You got to think outside the car. My Oh, there's one thing
I'm sure you blog this the the methane gas in the Arctic. Do
you hear about this?
Yeah. Yeah, I think somebody may have blogged it.
You thought your thoughts? I don't know, because what they're
saying is methane gas these chimneys? It's well, first of
all immediately Oh, there's it's, it's worse than co2. Yeah,
it's
always something.
Yeah. It's like three times as bad a greenhouse gases co2? I
don't know, I don't know if it is. But you don't have any more
insight into that?
No, actually I did when I read it. I was like, hmm, I'm just,
you know, I think we're all kind of inundated with this
greenhouse gas, you know, and everything just has to be green
and all the money is going to these investments. And I don't
know, I think it's just one of those. You know, it's like,
well, you know, who's huge, you know, who's huge.
Let's put it that way. Who's
Who's doing all this green stuff? Investment is cleaner.
Yeah. Oh, no big time. Well, that's because they got Gore
working for him.
Yeah, they've got go. Oh, in fact, Ray lane is is doing a lot
of that work.
Well, Ray lane and John Doerr are both kind of green. It's
funny because
Ray is such a Republican John Doerr is such a Democrat. It's
interesting to see them working on those things side by side.
Yeah, I think Dora was a Republican, originally and then
a massive Democrat right now, I'll tell you that.
Well, yes. Because his his goal is to become an ambassador or
the Secretary of State, or something like that. I mean,
that's what every Nobel Peace
Prize. I mean, if you have everything right,
I think Bill Gates is gonna get one of those before John Doerr
does
well, I'm investigating the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
kind of on the side here. And from the things I'm starting to
find and read, I don't think he's in line for any, any Nobel
Peace Prize soon. Why? Because there, you think it's a little
shady. Yes. Very shady. You know, once you get past the
handing out mosquito nets to people, then there's, you know,
there's apparently in Seattle, there are many, many office
buildings that you can't get into, you can't get invited to.
These are laboratories working for the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation. There's no signage, you know, there's just the
people who work there, you can't meet them at their office, they
have to meet you somewhere else. And from what I understand,
they're, they're testing out vaccinations in in Africa,
primarily, but it's not like antiviral vaccinations. It's
like DNA changing shit. So they're, they're experimenting
on?
How do we know this is just something else you got from one
of your other friends? Yes,
yes, of course. So that's why I said I'm investigating it. I'm
just giving you know, I'm not giving you facts. I'm just
telling you what I'm hearing. There's a apparently there's a
there's some whistleblowers out there, which would be
interesting to, you know, to see if that actually, if anything
makes it into the
militia. I was thinking if you're gonna say I was thinking
that the whole thing was the way to like, I wouldn't say it was a
money laundering operation. But I would say, of course, it is
moving money in
around John. No, John, of course, it's money laundering.
It's not laundering, but it's like, Turner, you know, he gave
a billion dollars to the UN, whatever. I mean, it's all it
there's no tax on it. You know, it's it's a whole interest
deductible thing ever delivered the check? No, of course not.
Because it's
like the IMF or the World Bank that first of all, there's no
money. You know, it's like, Okay, here's my computer entry.
Now, you can change it over there. I mean, please. But it's
it. It's not like, you know, you're giving away a billion
dollars and you're down a billion dollars. That's just not
the way it works. And it's over time, and it's an annuity. And
there's, it's a big tax thing, no doubt about it. But Well, the
thing is, that's and you know, and I don't think Bill Gates is
evil, I don't know is I don't know his wife. But it's
probably, you know, you put 4060 $80 billion into the pot,
and you got all kinds of people showing up and they can talk a
good game. And, and I think that under the auspices of r&d, you
know, Gates is going to be really interested in that. It's
unfortunately, we're testing it out on the African children and
killing them.
I have a good friend who is in I actually know a lot of people
there, but I have one friend who's working directly with the
foundation. He's an Africa expert. He's always going back
and forth to Africa. So I'll bring this up.
And then please, please don't use my name. Okay. Don't use my
name. Just yeah,
I guess heaven forbid, no one's going to know that you're
interested in this since we only have 100 subs. By the way,
everyone out there who listens to this show, please get one
more one more friend one friend. So
we can double two we got 100,000 listeners, we want to make it
200 And we had like 130 Min. But we're gonna make it 200 Well,
quarter of a million is what I think is really something we
should be able to reach and then and then we then we gotta go
make some money. What about our T shirts? We're gonna sell T
shirts. Yeah, we
know what the promise is me. I don't do enough work. So anyway,
thank you. Finally that you know what Ron Blum agrees on?
Depending on what day it is,
yeah, of course. So, anyway, the point is, is that, you know,
I'll ask him, and it was and then I've also got other people.
Yeah, I don't think so I don't I think it's, you know, maybe just
a way of moving money around, but I just don't see some, you
know, nasty weirdness going on, you know, with Mr. Burns.
But again, this is this is not nasty. I mean, it's not Bill
Gates, who has some evil plan, but it's totally, you know,
pharmaceutical or biotech, bio engineering companies who, you
know, can you know, they, they present a PowerPoint and saying,
Look, we can modify the human DNA, so they'll now no longer be
susceptible to these illnesses, or et cetera, et cetera. Hey,
you know, messing around with people's DNA, man, that's heavy
shit. We'll see. Yes, we will. I'm going to continue to do some
investigation. And of course, we have dropped.io/no agenda where
people are posting stuff pretty regularly. So if you find any,
anything, any research paths that aren't very interested?
Yeah, because the only people who are going to save the world
is you and I John
has Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket as usual.
We're the only ones that can do it. All right, man. Unless you
got something else.
No, no, but I expect we'll have a lot of stuff for next week's
show after the Palin thing. Yes.
And hopefully, we bring a better perspective to the analysis of
the analysis of these debates, then, all these other Yahoo
shows. I get sick of that. I know you watch them all, but I
just, I can't stand it.
And I've always get one or two little insights, it helps me
like to you know, think in a different way. Yeah, I don't
agree with these guys necessarily. But it's, you know,
the guy really liked doing it when he's on his Karl Rove,
believe it or not, has now I know. He's really good. I mean,
I mean,
he's a stroke show business. He understands this shit. Yeah. And
of
course, he says one thing one minute is something else. So
nice, but it's still really good analysis and the other guy and
people out there that think he's a jerk and whatever. I think
Rush Limbaugh is one of the best deconstructionists working on
radio today. I mean, he takes stuff apart in a very unique
way. That is always kind of fascinating. I mean, he's one
sided about everything, but, but it's, it's really just like
watching a master. It's amazing. That's why the guys makes the
you know, you got to contract for $40 million. It's not
because he's a slouch.
Exactly. All right, so we'll, we'll continue our
conversations. Are you gonna pick me up? Yeah,
I'll pick you up at five. Oh, really? We
need half an hour to get there.
515 Okay. 550.
All right, coming to you from the curry condo overlooking the
bay in the financial district of San Francisco. My name is Adam
curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak here in Northern Silicon Valley
overlooking the bay from the other side,
both of us in Gitmo nation West this week. We'll talk again next
week, right here on no agenda.