From behind the invisible bars that encompass the reality we
called Gitmo nation. This is your weekly tune up. We call it
no agenda coming to you from a sunny southern England in Gitmo
nation east. I'm Adam curry.
And in get mon nation West, also known as Northern Silicon
Valley, a place doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. But I tell
people to tell the cab driver to take you there.
John, let me start this week show off with some excellent
news.
You ready? Okay.
We have now reached over 100,000 listeners per episode. Oh, we
have in fact, two weeks ago we did 100 It's progressive,
obviously. So you know, people are behind and catch up. Two
weeks ago we did 135,000. And we're already over 101,000 For
last week.
Well, I think we did. All we need to do now is plead beg for
to double. And we need to get to a quarter of a million this
year.
Yeah, that's our next milestone. But you know what, we didn't
even do anything. We just focused on it. And it happened.
Now we did one week. Remember, we begged and begged people to
tell. Yeah, but
that's different. You know, you and I talked about, you know,
getting celebrity guests on, you know, getting Britney Spears.
All kinds of fabulous plans.
Just goes we're too lazy.
That would be it too busy or just too damn lazy. I can also I
can really tell though the audience is up because I'm
getting more hate mail than usual.
Oh, hate mail. That's a good sign. What do they hate you for?
What is with the hate
a lot of hate? Interestingly enough about my comments on
vaccination. Oh, right. I mean, like a lot of people in the
Middle
Ages say I don't even remember you had talked on this show? Or
was it daily source code?
No. Well, it's been back and forth. We talked about it
briefly last week. In fact, one of those emails you were copied
on? And I can't remember what it was honestly, John, but I'm sure
it was me saying something to the effect of don't let the
government stick needles in your children. Oh, yeah. So anyway,
but it's just, you know, after doing this for well, doing
podcasts for four years, been in radio since I was 15. You know,
when the audience grows, you can just feel it. So welcome,
everybody.
Come on out. We'll be correct now will suck. Yeah,
exactly. Come in to Uncle Ernie, his holiday camp where we fiddle
about.
So I understand. It was really still it was like lousy weather
back. There was where people were getting flooded. Schools
are being closed. Yeah,
unbelievably, today has been absolutely fantastic. But yes,
in the Midlands, and in the north, where that always
happens, just because of the geography, flooding. But the
weather has just been extremely bad. Until of course they
flipped on the Large Hadron Collider. Now it's all clear
enough. So that gives us some good, but now the worst thing
actually is the wheat crop. And they're not no one's really
talking about that here. But you can say to grow wheat. Yeah. For
for bread and stuff. In England. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, what do
you think they make those crop circles in?
Oh, I'd say yeah. Now that you mentioned it. Yeah, I guess it
would be it could be some
so so the problem is that the rain wiped out like now. It's a
third of the of the normal crop that they would have. So prices
of wheat are now triple what they normally are. And now
they're gearing up to import wheat from Germany,
interestingly enough, who had a banner year? They did 20 or 25%
Better than normal, but it's rough man. Because I mean, yeah,
it's, you think just bread but I think weed is used in a lot of
stuff. So it is going to impact impact food prices once again.
Yeah, well, the funny thing is when the food prices go up, they
don't usually come down.
That well. Look at gasoline costs a lot of this oil going
down gasoline going up. It makes so much sense.
My gasoline is going down around here. I don't know what you're
talking about. The oil prices are going to collapse. I mean,
right now it seems just teetering.
Oh, yeah. Once it gets I think the the next bottom is probably
it's got to be like 95 or something. And then it's just
going to slide all the way down to 60.
Eye that'd be nice if it gets back to 40.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if if they're going to lay down
that direction.
They're doing all these things now to try to prop it up because
they're freaked. Well,
I was talking to my, my buddy, my Halliburton friend who works
for a UK company which does all infrastructure for oil drilling
projects. He knows a lot about this stuff. And that he says
that today to get oil out of the ground, the actual
infrastructure and people It's already around $40 Just to 40 to
$45 per barrel just to get it out of the ground. It's double
that if you if you're trying to get it out of like the North Sea
as an example. And that's because there's just the
equipment isn't there, the people aren't there, they cannot
recruit and recruit enough people to do the surveys to do
the work. I mean, it's a it's unbelievable the supply and
demand of the workforce and the materials has just boosted that
price the ground floor base price up.
I wonder what they pay somebody to be on an oil rig.
Oh, it's huge money. Oh, dude, I know, a cab driver. Now a taxi
Eric, who you will meet when you go to Amsterdam, because he will
be driving you around. And he was on the on one of the
drilling platforms and the North Sea. And yeah, it was like, I
think was two weeks on one week off. And he said, Yeah, it was
great money. He said he had to stop because it was just it was
freaking him out how dangerous he really was. But yeah, it's
like, like this
crowd. It was great money. I mean, what are we talking about
here? At least
double what he's making on the cab. So you know, for manual
labour, I think great work.
Now we need to get some specifics. I'll add $100 an
hour.
I'll ask him. I'll ask him. But
I know the guys who have a couple of friends who ended up
going to Iraq and they live in the green zone. They're private
contractors. Huge
money, I'll
bet huge money hundreds of 1000s of dollars like two $300,000 a
year just to
I've actually heard that there that they've paid off. That's
like $35,000 spot bonuses to lieutenants and captains in
Iraq. Well, that's the surge.
Maybe it's just a surge of money surge of taxpayers money
and money surge. That's right. Speaking of of oil and and
surge, the big news this weekend over here in the United Kingdom
is the bankruptcy of X L. Travel.
XL XL. What
XL? I think it's travel or aviation. And let me see. I
think it's a package tour company.
And why would that be big news? Because 89 We get Lehmann
Brothers going
down. Oh, wait, let's listen to me. I'm getting to the bottom in
a second. Lien. XL is 89,000 Britons who are now in vacation
destinations who can't get back. Oh, you think you think that's a
problem?
That's a good number. 89
years 50,000 passengers stranded who booked with XL tour
operators 10,000 who booked with the air the airline because it's
a combo deal. Where you can get it separately? 25,000
Are these like? Oh shit, I'm sorry. These like, not your
connection got weird. It's okay. I got you. The Are these like
charter flights? Is that the reason? Because normally when I
booked through if I booked through a travel company to give
me some tickets, I have a ticket round trip on united and I
wouldn't
No, no, they have they have their own aircraft. And it's
it's kind of an interesting company. It's a hybrid. So they
they typically book vacations with the flight but you can also
just book a flight because they're they're so big. They had
200,000 advanced bookings those people their money's gone. The
guy the chairman Philip what he was crying on television dude,
literally crying. Although I don't get it. I mean, who? What
the hell is the regulator over here doing if these guys were in
such dire straits, you'd think that maybe you want to check on
their maintenance and some other stuff. They knew
about it. So what was the the the rationale for the folding
mean?
Oh, well, so they had they've converted a line of credit from
Barclays into a loan and then Barclays said Okay, that's it,
no more money and all of their suppliers, ie landing fees,
airports, etc. And of course, fuel required immediate Pash
cash payments. And so it just, you know, it's just that magical
moment. Barclays just Yeah. Yeah. Thanks to Barclays, I
would say well, you know, but Barclays was probably right. And
currently the thing that's gotten so expensive for these
for any airline certainly in Europe is the co2 tax. That's
what's really killing everybody. And sorry, the co2 tax
his words his words headed here to this some bogus tax Yeah,
hey, let's see. Let me see here. Let's look at us can we tax
these guys for you know, I liked a co2 idea because it's kind of
so nebulous, you know, you can't prove it one way or the other.
So let's just tax them for for their emissions are already
being taxed for the gas when they buy it going into net
account for this. No, no, no, let's just make another tax out
of the blue and we'll call it co2. Actually nobody will
complain about it because all these drink freaks will think is
just cool.
I'm sure you blogged this somewhere and I can't remember
who it was. It was some official and he came out and said, You
need to eat less meat to save on carbon emissions. Did you? Did
you read that story? And yeah, it's like an amazing it's like,
you know, because this is what's gonna happen next. First,
they're going to absolutely they're going to say, look,
okay, you've got for 400 head of cattle. They all take a dump
about six times.
I'm telling you, this is a bunch of vegetarian, vegan, vegan,
whatever you want to call them people behind all this.
It's the greenies ma'am, them greenies. So the next thing of
course, as they've, as they've now successfully taxed, one of
the four elements of life being sunlight, water, oxygen, and
carbon dioxide, is you're going to be taxed on how much you
speak.
It could be we're toast the only times
yeah. particularly well, we get double tax because what comes
out of our mouth is bullshit, which is also of course harmful
to the environment. Methane. It's a it's a lethal methane and
meeting from their offices. Hmm. All right. You ready for Lehman
Brothers? Is that bottom there yet? John, you sure you think
you think there's a bottom here?
Yeah, we're bouncing around and I can feel it.
Dude, it's Lehman. Is Washington Mutual? It's Merrill Lynch. And
this morning I know if you've read the papers yet. The so
first the Congressional Budget. What does it office nothing or
oversight. Nuttall guy or whatever it Nussle whatever his
name is, he said, Oh, I think Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
should be on the books of the US government. And boy that got
turned around. Someone held a gun to his head that I don't
think you'd really want to say that dude. So now he's he's
pulled back. It's funny. This guy is a total, total reptilian.
He's an insider. He used to work at the Treasury. His wife is
connected, looking for his name. But it's that's pretty big to
hear it is what's his name, Jim Nussle, Director of the White
House Office of Management and Budget.
Yeah, this guy should be told not to talk to anybody ever.
So the What's that? Well, that's kind of his job. Oh, but the way
I understand it is doesn't mean he has to do it. That's true.
The way I understand it, is that the the Treasury is now of
course, they're doing another weekend deal. And Paulson has
said, no way. We're not going to bail him out. Lehman has the
same debt window, you know, the discount window facility. So you
guys, you other bankers, let's go figure it out. We split it up
into pieces, and no one wants to do it. Which means to me that
this just either there's no value left in the company, or
it's too damn difficult to actually figure out what the
value is.
So it was weird. That guy there sucks. Some guy came up with a
book on this. And on laming going, or Lehman, whatever you
want to call him going under, about I was about five or three,
four or five months ago, and he was he was on CNBC being grilled
by that morning crew. They were just, they and the guy was
pretty, he says, here's the questions that need to be
answered. He was talking about some things that were on the
books that had no explanation. And it's just a night I've
talked to the company directly, they've never answered these
questions and bobble and these guys were just kind of like
grilling him as though you know, this can't possibly be true. And
I was kind of kind of stunned by although I was not totally
stunned. But there's there's there's still this this wishful
thinking in the in the community out there that people who who
cover this topic for the public, you know, on CNBC or wherever
they are the and this includes the thing about the oil
manipulation that we've documented to death and the fact
that it was you know, this illegal essentially speculation
done
a cover that's that's not the real that's not what's really
happening John is being manipulated but the whole trader
thing that's just a front I'm convinced of it now. But anyway,
the grass
Yeah. And boy, you digressed into the into the sea. What are
you talking about?
This is being minute this is not being this is
not, don't tell me that you think it's space aliens?
Only if you make my big if you give me my theme tune? No, this
is the IMF and the World Bank. They're manipulating it. They
know it. They know exactly what they're doing. And they're doing
it too and they're successful at it because they're bankrupting
the Middle East. They've look at what's happened with Russia. A
big part of it, of course is because of the Georgia con
flicked you know people are going belly up their oil
companies freaking out I thought that I think there's this
completely orchestrated and at the same time what what is
everyone calling for? What are the Republicans calling for
drill baby drill
well orchestrated to what end it's a financial orchestration
fought to what end? to bankrupt the Middle East. You said yeah
to bankrupt the Middle East to bankrupt Russia. to bankrupt to
get rid of the I think the whole financial I think the plan was,
honestly now that I look at it. The plan was probably to destroy
the whole system to start off with the whole system, the whole
financial system and oil is tied right into that it's money.
But to what end?
To what end to read well to kill people.
I mean, to what end, I mean, there's got to be a
tickle to guess the goal is to kill people to reduce the
Y or to reduce the population. This is where you're going with
this.
That's that's certainly a direction I'm starting to look.
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right. Well, I'm not quite I'm not
quite ready to expand on it, but
I will mull it over.
It's all part of the same thing. It's the same thing with the
vaccinations.
So how comes the letters? That's why I mentioned it. So So what
have you been drinking recently?
No, man, nothing at all. I've been smoked. I have no I haven't
been smoking either.
I'm Oh, maybe that's the problem that I'm completely
clear headed. Completely.
So you're not drinking tea? You're not? Actually today
I have. I decided to change now. I'm drinking coffee for the
show.
Oh, God.
It's, well,
if you're not a coffee personality,
you want to laugh? Of course. Okay. So I've actually I decided
to try out some of the freeze dried coffee that I bought,
which I've styled which I've stocked up on with a number of
other essential life saving ingredients for when the food
crisis hits Britain. So I can make all kinds of stuff here at
home and I figured I'd try some see how it tastes and it's not
bad
you're drinking instant coffee.
Freeze Dried yep
that's all freeze dried nowadays. I think farmers
aperitive coffees left
Oh, dude, here's the big news from over here. Did you hear
about the tunnel fire
Yeah, I heard about that did get in fact we blogged it that was
pretty severe Yeah, I guess it closed down that don't hold the
one side of the tunnel that track the transport side
yeah for for this now going on three days I mean, this thing
burned for like nine hours 1000 degrees centigrade. And what's
interesting to me John is not one single newspaper and I just
went to the newspaper stand to pick up my my financial times
weekly are weakened not one single newspaper even hinted of
terrorism even though there were explosions that was fires all
kinds of shit going on how come no one talks about that how what
is up with that
you know there was some mention of it in the in our side of the
well not only it wasn't like played up much I mean they mean
Bush didn't come out or anything I mean it was just kind of in
passing and they decided it wasn't what what was the final
determination what causes fire
they still have not been able to explain that but they did there
was there were all kinds of chemicals toxic really toxic
shit I could probably find actually looked it up I forgot
the name of it. phenol that's what it was. phenol phenol?
Yeah. phenol nasty stuff that's in a very nasty stuff. There was
a tanker full of phenol and then that went out Oh,
yeah, stuff that they shouldn't allow that in the channel will
take phenol on the on the on the continent they don't need this
ship wasn't coming from that. Where was it coming from?
Well, I guess it was coming from the UK, but it's very easy to
make I understand. Yeah. phenols
is it's like a bike planter. It's a common, commonly used
chemical in the industrial and chemical production of all kinds
of things, plastics, drugs, and everything else. Yeah,
they also used to work with injecting people in a world war
two and kill them. According to ways
to work with this stuff in Union oil is very interesting. One of
the things about it is you it's like a lot of these other
chemicals, you anyone who's been a professional chemist for any
period of time realise that they all do this. Especially when
you're working with some of these these toxic materials you
use. You're sniffing yourself constantly, because this stuff
splashes you get like little micro micro droplets on
yourself. Yeah. And, and you'll you'll, you'll sniff your your
hand you'll just be sniffing away all over your hand just to
see if you can spot At a micro droplet of phenol, if it lands
on you because our
cement and burn into your flesh.
Well, it does a little bit I mean, just the little, it does,
but you can smell it, it has this very distinctive odour,
it's actually quasi pleasant. And then you just wash it off or
you put some, you know, some something to counteract it just
to change its structure. But you'd get the you know, you do
that. But phenol is the problem with phenols. It turns into
apparently, when it gives absorbed through the skin. This
is from years ago, I can't remember the details, but as
absorbed into the skin is the problem if you get it on you.
And it is slightly corrosive, but it gets on your gets into
your system. And then it turns it goes through the liver and
kidneys and turns into benzene, which is very, really a bad
thing to have in inside you. And it's carcinogenic. So
I'm told I'm reliably informed. So I don't know. But yeah, I'm
looking at the most recent article, see if they have any
news on on what caused it. But some of the eyewitness accounts
were that there were multiple explosions. Here today it says
temperatures reached as high as 1000 degrees Celsius, according
to the French interior minister. But
that's interesting, because I don't see what you get
exploiting that, you know, unless you're getting some kind
of weird reactions. I mean, what kind of chemicals are they
carrying in these tankers? Because phenol is not explosive?
You know, per se.
I'll have to I'll have to look that was in yesterday's paper. I
think so apparently they they said it was going to resume this
morning. I haven't heard a news report that actually did resume
yet. But I saw all the all the lorries as we call them all
lined up, and I'm like, Whoa, man that could disrupt the
supplies?
Well, you know, it seems to me that that if it was terrorism,
they would have made a big deal about it.
Or maybe it was actually, you know, like a real honest mistake
and something went wrong. And it wasn't one of those planned
false flag operations that they usually dish out. And they
didn't have time to get to the press office for this one.
You know, that did most of your stuff was pretty wacky. But that
one that's out there, right? I mean, that was that's within the
range of well, you know, it's possible.
Well, let's talk for a second about the liquid bombers on
aeroplanes. Then another huge new story this week in the
United Kingdom. I hope that trickled over to this one.
You're kidding me? Oh, my goodness, more liquid bombers.
No, this must be shaken. Bottles of we're gonna love this. So
they convicted out of the seven guys, the ringleader, they had
to let go. He didn't you know, they couldn't convict him of
anything. They can, they could only convict three of these
guys. And from the documents is now apparent that they had not
built a single bomb. Most of them did not have passports,
they certainly had not booked any tickets. And the jury said
we cannot convict them of even plotting to blow up aeroplanes
by carrying liquids and onto the aircraft and mixing them on
board. So they were convicted of conspiring, murderous action.
And these guys, these guys themselves say, well, we just
want to make a little bang somewhere in London to get
attention for some kind of documentary they were making or
something, which is why you know, they had this high quality
jihadist videos. Of course, I can't understand what they're
saying. But I'm told that they're jihadist videos. So they
know that these guys were making it like a movie or a documentary
and they were clearly twisted. But they were not, according to
the jury not contemplating blowing up aeroplanes with
liquid bombs. So Virgin Atlantic is the first one love these
guys, the first ones who come out and say, okay, great, that's
fantastic. Now that that's all settled, can we please stop the
ridiculous fucking bullshit of no more than 100 millilitres of
liquid being carried on to the plane and you know what the
response was from the government or from the court? We got to
retry these guys. Literally, they're gonna retry them. I
mean, double jeopardy has already gone here. It's like,
okay, you were convicted, you're guilty, but none of that. Well,
we got to go back again. I'm sorry. And fully before these
guys were let let go free, not convicted. They could
probably trump up some new charges. I mean, the great thing
about today's legal system is that if you to double jeopardy
thing has always been a craw or a crisis a stone in the craw I
can't remember the phrase it's always gotten the thorn in the
side it's a thorn in the side there we go of these prosecutors
and so that you make the law so complicated that if you can't
you okay you're you're out on law you know, sections this is
this but there's section this lesson is we're going to refile
with a different you know, charge, you know, like the one
you said they got convicted of planning murderous acts or
talking badly about the bride and
exhaling Do to you dirty bastards. So I
mean, there's essentially there's there's an limitless
number of laws that you can be prosecuted under if somebody's
out to get you. And you know, or to make a point now that there
must be some other reason to keep these liquids off of
planes. I can think of one, I've travelled with people who
overpack and bring entire bottles of shampoo that are like
this huge bottle of some shampoo you get on sale at Costco that's
got a pump at the top, and they pack it with theirs suitcase and
luggage and they go to, you know, the Europe for three days,
with this big giant bottle of shampoo or whatever it is. I
mean, there's, I think anything to encourage people to travel
lightly charging for extra bags. I'm all for it. charging for
extra bag, keep the liquids off the planes, it's mostly to keep
people from overpacking.
Oh, okay. All right. I see it a little bit differently. Just a
little bit. No, I'm, you know, and it's weird. Because you
think to yourself, well, oh, you know, great, they can actually,
you know, so it wasn't a threat. The scientists are on record now
in in, you know, mainstream newspapers saying, look, it's
just really not that easy to go mix up something powerful enough
on an aeroplane with multiple elements. And then you think to
yourself, well, great now, so they can just remove all that
those stupid restrictions, and in the back, but in the back of
your mind, you've got something going like, Well, shit, you
know, maybe we've even I've been conditioned at this point.
Yeah, well, yeah. Well, everybody has them. And that's
the idea. We're just a bunch of robots. But you know, the funny
thing that joke of this is, is you can make a pretty damn good
explosive with three ounces of I can name a couple of chemicals
that are liquid that would blow the back of the plane off. I
mean, it's just so the whole thing is bull.
Yeah, I mean, of course, it's all Bull. I still love Heathrow
Airport, where you where you go through X ray. And then you go
through an passport exit, where they would basically some
monkeys sitting there just comparing the name on your
passport to the name on your ticket, but they look all
official and scary and show
now they're holding it up to you, which cracks me yeah, let
me hold that up to the light for a second here. Let me just
compare Oh, yes, well, could you please take off your glasses.
Now whatever they've got, they've also got this, at least
in the States, or they got this little now that all of a sudden
they only have this little blue light of some sort and they scan
it over your driver's licence looking for the code on your I
don't know what the hell they're doing.
And then you're supposed to walk straight into this into a
fishnet like trap where there's another x ray machine but that's
only for shoes and I've made it a sport and I get away with it
every single time you know, so there's someone there who's
supposed to corral these eight lines of passport exit stands
into the shoe X ray line. Now right off to the right hand side
is a urologist Jones we can you know exchange money and so
either I'll walk straight that way and then pretend that I'm
looking at the exchange rate and then just walk through or if
they're looking at me I'll fumble around with my bag or you
know with my with my passport or whatever, and I'll just wait
until they're not looking and then I just walk right past is
total horseshit. told no
no we we don't have I don't know who would know what is this
again? You have a separate thing at the end because we our shoes
are taken off i No,
no, no, no, no, no, they decided this is very British of course
because nowhere this is at Heathrow. Yes, the taking off a
terminal one or two. Okay, the taking off of the shoes is of
course a big pain in the ass because there's really no place
there's no infrastructure in Heathrow, which is a shambles.
Anyway, to put your shoes back on. So what they do is you go
through the regular x ray. Interestingly enough, you don't
have to take your laptop out of your bag at Heathrow just to
show you the inconsistency. And then they have a separate X ray
where you take off your shoes, put your shoes through the X
ray, and then they have little seats there so you can sit down
and put your shoes back on. So it's they're trying to do it to
make it more comfortable for you.
By the way, that's the guy that we should go find and beat up
which is that shoe bomber.
Really well we should stop with one shit too. That's just
outrageous stupid.
I know but the fact is a guy who's triggered it I think we
should when these guys trigger these things and I would include
those those liquid bomber guys. I think they should be put in
stocks place there should be like an area that should be a
resistance there. You know, there's public shame anyway.
Yeah, shouldn't be it's an area where you can't get right up to
him and punch him. But you can throw things at him.
public shaming I'm all for it. I've also always said that I'm
all for Papa executions being aired on primetime in the United
States
and me both but I think I mean, I I've thought about this and I
think a lot of people have but everyone Oh, it's too sick.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Point. Do you think it will might be some bit of a detour?
Aren't you think it might work? You know, we show everything
else we show all the trials, we showed, you know, well, we don't
even show dead military personnel anymore. But we show
all the gore and horror, but we actually put, you know, a, some
some, some law into effect where to put it to show it on
television. In fact, I'd be more than happy to produce that show.
It's a great reality show. It's called on death row. And in the
end, you know, how it ends. Each episode ends the same way.
You know, the thing is that that's the interesting thing
here is that the people had there's a pro and con when it
comes to like the death penalty. And everybody who's against it
says, you know, it's determined it's not a deterrent, it's not a
deterrent. And the fact of the matter is, is not a deterrent,
because nobody sees it. Yeah. I mean, it's just a theoretical
thing. You know, it's like, well, you can just a death
penalty. Okay. The guy was executed. Remember how few
protesters up front and
remember how shocked we all were at the I was thinking about this
just the other day about the Saddam Hussein hanging video?
Yeah, but you know what? There's a lot as a lot of young kids who
are going shit, man, I ain't going to become Saddam Hussein.
That fucking blows. I think I think and by the way, I'm
against corporal punishment. Just so I call corporate.
Corporate. Corporate. What kind of punishment are you again?
Subtle
punishment.
Oh, there we go.
We're corporal punishments. Okay. I'm totally against taking
a life for any reason whatsoever. But since we're
doing this stupidity, maybe we'd get a different idea if we
actually showed what that entails when you see people who
are flopping around when one injection isn't enough. You
know, show that go ahead, show it show what it really means to
kill a human being. The electric chair would be the one to go
exactly show that with their eyes popping out.
I think the guillotine might be interesting to hell in a
handbasket.
There you go. That's the name of the show. To hell in a
handbasket. A new reality show this season on Fox?
It would be hot people would. Although you'll be I don't know.
You know, it'd be interesting to see, just as an expensive
sociological experiment. I wonder what kind of ratings it
would get what would the family sit around and watch and make
the kids watch
it would be through the roof through the roof. And it just
amazes me that I got hooked into watching a whole bunch of videos
from tmz.com. Yesterday, Patricia is recording another
show in Holland. So you know, there's no one to talk to. And
my daughter is she's 18 She doesn't get shit about me.
And oh, poor Adams Home Alone
is right. Just mean my gold. And so I bought my Krugerrands so
I'm, I'm sitting around and I'm watching these videos and have
you ever watched this TMZ stuff? It's It's really amazing.
Because here people who are so brash and so mean, and and you
know these paparazzi, they as paparazzi is a big word, it's
just, you know, idiots with a with a video camera. And they'll
they'll stick this camera in a celebrity's face and ask all
these horrible questions. You know, just just egging them on
to either, you know, grab the camera or, or say something that
or that, of course will be, you know, headline news. And that's
what these guys want, because then they get to sell their
video all over the world or their photos or whatever. And
there's, there's so many of these people attacking these
celebrities and D liberties but not and about one of them has
the fucking courage to do it to like a politician, you know, and
really hound a politician and ask them the really tough
questions when it's just outrageous to see that we've got
the people with the equipment, we've got the people who do the
research, okay, it's research on Lindsay Lohan. But they're doing
the research. Why can't we get them to do that about real
things that matter? Real News.
I think the politicians who had to be a backlash, I think they
did pass legislation to screw these guys, they'd be out of
business. They don't want that.
Well, that legislation will be interesting to see. At least it
would be honest.
I don't know. It's something so I'm never expecting to see what
you're describing, which would be good. I mean, that's the what
should be happening. I mean, I mean, Reese Of course, you know,
the thing going on here is still the never ending hounding of
Sarah
Palin. Yeah, and I've been following that it's the same
over here. They don't call the news media just copy and paste
whatever's coming over the wire.
And so but what's weird is uh, you listen to the two sides like
you listen to Rush Limbaugh his interpretation of what's going
on and then you listen, listen to Bill Maher is interpretation.
So you have the street and you have the right wing and the left
wing both, you know, talking about, you know, it's almost
like the guys describing the elephant you know, I mean, it's
unbelievable. Everybody sees things totally differently. And
the fact is, though, I think they're overdoing the bashing
because it's unwarranted and it's like actually making the
Democrats But looks like oh dreamily mean spirited mean evil
people and they don't seem to get that and when they end when
it's pointed out to him they say well maybe that's the way it has
to be we should be we should go more on the offensive we should
be more like the report more like the Karl Rove Ian's you
know and being, you know, be attack dogs and go out and be
negative go negative go negative and they're gonna do that I
think just this campaign is going to go extremely negative
and it's going to be hilarious. I think it's just going to be a
laugh riot. It's going to be fantastic.
Well, it is the greatest show on earth. And that's all that it
is. These people who are up for election won't actually run
anything that just actors. The best one the best president we
had was an actor. And that's what people miss. You know this.
It's all about the show. And it's or it's orcas. It's no
different than managing Amy Winehouse. It's like no, no
press. No, we have a press stop. We're not gonna You can't talk
to Amy. And then you know, it's like then we'll Okay, let's go
on. Good Morning America, Charles Gibson. He's in our
pocket. We got him. And he'll ask really easy questions and
we'll ask the tough questions in a rehearsed way. It's a show
business. I keep saying it's show business. Politics is show
business for Ugly people. In this case, you know they're even
learning that because Sarah Palin is not ugly.
No, she's she's I think she's fine looking. My wife doesn't
think much of her. Anyway, so So the Sarah Palin thing is
continuing. So all we have to do somebody wrote in and said and
by the way I wanted somebody mentioned to me that we should
mentioned that lipstick on the pig thing which everybody which
is another phoney baloney deal going on where, you know, Obama
said it's like lipstick on a pig which is which to most of the
Republicans was a call back to the convention because Sarah
Palin had this joke that lipstick. Meanwhile, oh, it's
just an accent. People say lipstick on a pig all the time.
And John McCain said it five years ago and here's that you
know, blah, blah, blah. It was
really clear. It was very clear what what Obama
made clear that nobody talks about this is why I thought it
was totally clear. He goes from the lipstick on the pig
reference, which was just an insult to talking about fish.
And how fish stinks. You put to fish just like says like stinky
fish. Female reference that's used by the lower classes are
commonly vagina. It's extremely insulting, and nobody pay and it
was the follow up to lipstick on a pig. No doubt in my mind.
Rails was intended to indicate
Well, when I heard lipstick on a pig, I was shocked. I was
literally shocked because I knew immediately because I had seen
that bit where Sarah Palin says, you know, the only difference
between what you say pit boy and a hockey mom is lipstick. So it
was really clear. And I was just like, Wow, man, you calling a
woman a pig. That's it. That's a big deal. And then I thought
back to our conversation from last week where you said the
Democratic Party in general is ageist and sexist. And like,
there it is. Fucking ages and sexist.
Yeah, totally ages and sexes. But anyway, the follow up stuff
about the fish, all the fish references to me was even more
insulting. But nobody wanted to touch that one. Because for one
thing, it became obvious. And the second thing was it was
extremely insulting to even bring it up in the conversation.
But I thought the whole thing was very referential and
referential. Do you have the exact
quote that he used? Was it Obama who said that?
Yeah, Obama, he goes, he goes on and on about lipstick on a pig.
And then he goes on and on about it's like, it's like having dead
fish, stinky dead fish. And in a newspaper, it just stinks. And
he went on and on and on about the fish. And it was right after
I saw the whole thing. He was in a library someplace to
discussing this. And, you know, it was all rehearsed. And I got
huge laughs from this audience. And I mean, she was he said,
lipstick on a pig. They're all you know, they're all
snorkelling funny, and they had all these kinds of nerdy little
dweebs and so it was obvious what was going on and then now
then I went into the denial thing by the way, which I always
get a kick out of this it's reminds me of what used to be a
professional wrestling where somebody would come out they
don't do this anymore. I'm normally shocked by this but you
know, the rest of you would go beat the crap out of some guy
and then he somehow turn around and the guy beg him he'd beg No,
no no no don't hurt me I'm I'm don't hurt me to be on his knees
begging and then as the guy so okay, I won't hurt you the boom
he gives them one. You know that? They don't do that
anymore. There's none of the begging there's no more begging
but anyway, Obama goes into this. Oh, no, it was just a
mystery. Oh, you're kidding. Oh, I didn't mean that you you're
you're you're you're the one who's got the dirty mind. Which
is another trick that comedians use, which is you'd make a lewd
reference and then you act so shocked. Notices exactly
it let's see, maybe this is maybe this is the one I just
want to see if I could find that actually. That that quote. Let's
see what they
say a few words about the latest made up controversy
on So that's not it. No, this is his reaction to Yeah, no, you
have to get the original. That's what I'm looking at which is
predates that. By the way, when he goes into the made up
controversy, but I'm getting tired of this guy's cadence.
Yeah. I mean, he was on
Letterman. I saw clips from a Letterman. Yeah. How was he? Was
he funny?
Yeah. Yeah, he was outstanding. He's a really smooth guy and I
but he's still got that cadence. When he's giving his speeches.
He's actually more he's a he's kind of, he's got a good
personality. He's funny. He's not he's not a joke maker. But
he's got to seems to have a sense of humour. And but the
cadence this this hottie cadence, which is actually
sounds a lot like John Kerry, I think is gonna wear it thin. You
know, the more they put him on the air because he just talks
like a guy who's you know, talking down to you anyway,
well, let's just list this for a second. John McCain says he's
about change to extra and so I guess his whole angle is watch
out George Bush, except for economic policy, health care
policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and
carros style politics. We're really gonna shake things up in
Washington that's not change that's that's just calling some
the same thing. Something different but you know, you can
you can put lipstick on a pig a pig
bash it the fish thing is not here. Now look forward later.
Yeah, like follows up with the fish. Yeah, sure. Which day
everybody cut that out. But did that's what to me was declared.
I mean, that was the confirmation
that also in Alaska reference, I guess.
What the fish yeah. I don't know. Now the fish is a
reference to I mean, it's a gives us a reference to vaginal
secretions to be honest about it. Yeah, exactly. And it's a
and it's something that you wouldn't I mean, it does it
first it gets too big for we got too big a laugh with with the
lipstick on a pig comment in such a way that was obviously a
callback to Sarah Palin. Right. And her mentioned of lipstick,
and then when he started pounding the fish stuff, and I'm
thinking this is ridiculous. This is gonna get slaughtered
for this and indeed the next day, you know, are you dig
actually that day? There was a right wing guys are all over it.
And the left wingers are all snickering they don't know No,
do you guys are just sick to think that but the nobody again
on either side brought up to all this fish malarkey was fine. No,
I think they're, these guys are going in the wrong direction. In
fact, it's already been discussed that, you know, the
youth is would be the group that puts these guys over, you know,
the young voters who never vote because they think everything's
a crock of crap for obvious reasons. And and Obama came out
as the you know, the non politician politician, and so he
was going to be you know, above it all. And he was going to do
this above it all. And meanwhile, this mean, spirited
Democratic base, you know, that shows up on the Bill Maher show
last night. He had Janine garofolo on and she's about as
crazy.
She's a massive truther
Oh, she had massive truth. Oh, yeah. Big time. Yeah, big time.
That never came out. But anyway, she just hates the Republicans
to an extreme, she said they should all be arrested. I mean,
even though she's supposedly Just kidding. But anyway, so
they these guys are like so mean spirited, that they're like
making Obama do stuff that's compleanno going in this
direction of being snide, and, and, you know, not being above
the fray, but being just part of it. And it's gonna turn off the
youth voters who are going to say, you know, yeah, he can be I
hope he wins, but I got other things to do, I'm not gonna
vote, and they're gonna lose the election because of this kind of
thing. If they don't get back on their original track, which was
winning, they were winning big with the original track. You
know, just because they take a few some people take a few shots
at him like Giuliani at the convention. He had some great
leave the guy was doing a stand up routine. It was the funniest
thing I've ever seen it guy was great. He could have could have
been a politician.
You know where it is, John, what what happened is it's it's the
whole celebrity thing. You know, Obama was built up. And it just
like, the good example was Amy Winehouse. You know, you see
this great, great persona, you hear this great voice, you know,
the song everything's fit together because it's an
illusion, right? You don't actually know this, that she's
human. And you never when you when you this is the old school
Hollywood system, you know, you you protect your stars, and you
micromanage everything, and you never ever let the human side
come out unless it's completely orchestrated. So this is not a
Mama's personal, his personal opinion, it's not his words. I
mean, all this shit is is written for him and made up for
him. But that's not how you can't do that in the celebrity
culture that we live in today when you use that celebrity
culture to actually build the guy up, because that's what
happened.
Well, yeah, no, that is what happened. I mean, he was built
up as a celebrity. And that's one of the things that they
threw back in his face with those early ads, which may or
may not have been effective. I think he did. Well, I don't know
if they were effective or not, but I know that they did have
they, they were, they weren't necessarily effective in terms
of like, changing anybody's mind. But I think they they
affected with an A, the, the personal or the, the basic
perceptions that the Democrats had of themselves, they found
this very offensive, because they were, you know, kind of
playing a celebrity game, and then they were busted for it.
And then the next thing, you know, they're like, Well, you
know, this is a cheap shot. And, you know, and then they, you
know, they, all of a sudden, the Paris Hilton video comes out,
which was actually the best thing that come out of it.
Right. Yeah. And it did, the whole thing is being twisted.
And I think it's like the Republicans. The Republicans
started out, there's no reason the Republicans should win this
election. I mean, under any circumstances, I mean, under any
normal circumstances, you have a president that can't even show
up his own convention, a vice president that doesn't even have
a videotape for their own convention. I mean, he doesn't
he's not even be mentioned. He was often. Yeah, you have an
unpopular situation. But then again, the problem that
Democrats really have is that they're they're crappy Congress
that was put in office, you know, just two years ago was
promising all this stuff. They didn't deliver it, absolutely
nothing, which gave the Republicans the possibility of
getting in again, because the Democrats are does do nothing as
you can be. But meanwhile, they create this kick this guy,
Obama, from an earlier speech in 2004, when he gave that great
speech, the speech and they create this, you know, they and
they get to think fine tuned and find honed, and he's like, the
guy can't lose, and everybody just thinks he's a shoo in,
based on the earlier build up, and then the Republicans just
take a poke a few, you know, just take a needle a little bit
and the whole thing falls apart.
Yep. They totally obliterated the Sarah Palin pick. They just
obliterated Obama's huge appearance is his concert.
Yeah, no, they did a good job of killing the concert with that.
And then they, they also she became the target for all this
out and out hatred of both women and you know, her, and the fact
that she's only been a governor for two years. And it's a small
state, you know,
we're all pissed off because they didn't get to vet her.
Well, you have the press was doing its job because I think it
was either on this show or another show. I'm gonna have
somebody find this reference. I referenced her in May when they
first when she first came up in the conversation she was
mentioned as one of the possible choices. And they that's when
the vetting began with the Republican Party which was in
May, which was a number of months back but she was never
put on any of the on any of the lists at the press came out with
even though these weren't official this by the
Republicans, they were just making it up as they go along.
And then they got worked by the fact that the whole thing came
out apparently, to them came out of left field when it actually
didn't, I just
got to write this down September 13. John suggest the press might
not have been doing their job. Interesting. Interesting little,
little note there. Hey, let's let's riff on McCain for a
second because that video that came out, blew me away with the
Well, the one that everyone's been talking about the one of
him being released? Oh, yeah, the
Swedish video, we have it on the blog. divorce.org/blog Have a
drink. Right.
So here's McCain. And, you know, only when I saw your blog post
that I realised that you know, the story had been that he came
out on crutches and this was him actually leaving not entering
the states but leaving Vietnam, right, but the thing that I saw
that that took me immediately was He saluted the guy with a
high salute. And these days he can't pull his arm up above his
shoulder level.
He can't put it put his arm over he can still salute though
because if you look where the elbow is positioned, you don't
necessarily have to have it straight up to get us to make a
salute work.
Anyway interesting videos just in general man about his back
like not you mentioned that he they I remember hearing a couple
of comments. I mean, you don't need to raise your arm up into
the air to salute you can salute with your actually you could do
with a tuck. If you you know wanted to look like Benny Hill.
It looks high enough for me to actually go compare anyhow, he's
been He's much older now obviously, and it's not really
that important because the guy was really in a in a in a prison
camp, you know, it's like,
right well, he's obviously when you when you see him today he
you can see that he can't his arms have limited mobility and I
don't think he's faking that it could have been a progressive
thing that just deteriorated over time. Because you know,
there's so much ligament damage or who knows what. But yeah, he
did have a salute. He was limping severely so I can see
the crutches thing actually happening. But the thing that
keeps coming up, because I know you don't need to lift your own
weapon you already make a salute, you just need to be able
to bend your elbow. And but they keep referencing to the fact
that poor John McCain can't salute the flag. And I'm not
sure that's true.
No, no, no, I'm trying to right now obviously, you can salute
you can sell it without bringing your arm all I know if it's an
official salute. Well, you
could do about Yeah, but the other pieces of history and that
obviously a perfect marine salute with the 90 degrees and
all the rest of
the, what was interesting to me is other information that I
didn't know about John McCain. So for instance, his wife, when
he came back, he was already married, I guess when he went
off to Vietnam, and he came back and, and his wife had been in a
really horrible car accident she had had like 13 or 14
operations, and that it really messed with her and well he left
her and he left her for Cindy, who subsequently was on all
kinds of drugs, like was invited in Percocet, Percocet, whatever,
for three years. And she was completely completely drugged.
She was actually she had a she had a bit of a foundation that
would bring drugs to poor nations, and she was actually
getting the drugs from her own foundation.
Oh, that's interesting. I mean, I you know, she looks, she has a
certain look of like an exit. I hate to say this, because I
don't think she's totally an unattractive woman by any means.
And she's standard. She looks rich, and she has a lot of
style. And she's very involved in these foundations. But she
has to kind of have a look of a of a woman that may have gone
through something like that.
Yeah, apparently it has left some permanent damage,
particularly memory damage. So she she can't remember things
for like two weeks ago, short term memory is difficult. And
he's by her own admission. So while they're digging up all
this shit on Sarah Palin, now, there's a lot more shit. There's
plenty for the Obama camp to do, that's for sure.
Yeah, well, I'm sure they're gonna go after. But they have
to, you know, they have to have meetings because stuff like that
is pretty hypersensitive. Especially it's like, can we go
after, here's a, you know, you got to the guy's got us, he's
immediately got protection, or insurance based on this being
five years in a prisoner of war camp. And then, you know, you go
after some woman who had had a drug problem, even though she's,
if you looked at her bio that they ran at that convention,
it's like, Oh, my God, this woman had any time. She, you
know, she made her Palin look like she was a lazy fat. So
sitting around eating bonbons, in terms of the amount of stuff
that she had going on. I mean, she was just like, she's got
this going on. And, you know, to have 20 kids, and they adopted
a, you know, African child and went, I mean, just the whole
family is enormous. So he has a football team when he brought
them out. And so what are you going to do? Um, and how do you
attack that without looking like an idiot?
Because the nutty thing is, John is hope our listeners realise
how much of a Banana Republic The United States is when just
just this is the actual conversation. This is what it's
about, you know, while you know about stinky fish and lipstick
on pigs, and lack of experience and all this stuff. Well, you
know, we're basically about, you know, we're in a Cold War with
Russia. And we've gotten stagflation and on the brink of
disaster financially, and this is the shit, we're even we're
talking about it. What's wrong with us?
Well, you know, what is wrong with us? We shouldn't be talking
about Lehman Brothers. So
I can talk about Lehman Brothers, I can tell you about
we walked you know, Ron and I, we are first company think new
ideas. So we were we were we had an option to take that public.
And Lehman Brothers courted us for man months, I think was four
or five months. And yeah, that's a really difficult process. And
it really drains on any company to just to get that going. And
it was just it just, you know, went around in circles. And then
I can just remember the meeting. We said, hey, you know what,
screw you guys. We're not we're we're leaving. And we've
literally walked out. And they came running down the street
after us. And we wound up going with some like brown shoe firm.
But a huge $12 million raise. It was a little bit before the.com
Boom. But Lehman Brothers Yeah. Hey, it's it's an interesting,
interesting to work with a company like that on something
of that magnitude, even though for them was really small,
because it's essentially the only thing they're doing from
the minute you walk in the door. or is there looking for reasons
not to do it? Because it could, you know, screw up their career.
There's no other they don't give a shit about if you're going to
be successful or not. They just want to guide the IPO.
Did you think they were sleazeballs?
No, no. And they were nice. You know, they had every meeting,
they had the bagels and the fruit, you know, that was nice.
Well, they're toast now.
They certainly are 150. This is one of the big ones though. This
these these are like one of the these are serious players, these
guys.
Yeah, yeah, it's a disaster. I mean, the Bear Stearns thing was
like, you know, spit in the bucket. I mean, they got out
smelling like a rose somehow, begin by doing it early, if
you're going to fail, fail early, be first to fail. Because
after a while, they start saying, hey, wait a minute, this
is we've seen too much of this, you guys can just, you know,
sink to the bottom for all we care because people, you know,
the government and everybody else gets sick of it. And you
know, you want to go out early, not late well, and then come
come back to the last game in a football season,
I come back to my original statement, which is, you know,
knowing how Wall Street operates, and many, many banks
for my clients and our previous company. If there's a penny to
be made, if there's a there's a basis point to be made, they'll
go after it, unless they don't know that they can go after it.
And I think that's the problem is because you know, what this,
you know, did you hear? Well, this was also interesting that
because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gone into
conservatorship, that actually, according to the contracts, and
I'm talking about trillions of dollars in derivatives
contracts, is a credit event and all of those deals have to be
unwound. And Lehman Brothers is an essential part of that, you
know, credit default swaps are a derivative. So I think that it's
so big that no one understands how to unwind all of these deals
that are poorly documented,
right? Now, these derivatives of you know, there's derivatives
that go both ways. And all these years as Lehman Brothers fails,
there's other things making, you know, going up in value. And
then there's insurance derivatives,
that are these companies. And if you Sorry, go ahead.
There was like some they had this on the other day, there's
some guy who has made millions and millions off of these
company have had the Bear Stearns failure because he had a
derivative of an insurance, I was covering this that if this
happened, then you know, it would go up. And if you had
shorted it, it would go out. It's unbelievable. I'm thinking.
I was gonna say that that's been fixed now because everyone's on
to that and with Lehman Brothers, when it was with
Lehman Brothers, right now it costs to insure $10 million.
It's like 786 basis points. So it's almost a million dollars
now to insure $10 million. If it's through Lehman, where's it
was like, 70,000 or some, like, some fraction of what it was a
couple weeks ago? Yeah. went up a little bit.
Hello, yeah, sorry. Your your disconnection this week is not
very good. I think your daughter's downloading. So no,
no, she's not here. I saw um, Bemer. I'm just me and my gold.
Someone posted something interesting on on my drop. If
you go to Google Maps, I'll sedia has been wiped off. No
longer is that no, seriously, no longer is the like the border
showing what part of Georgia is of Cydia or sexual really, he
has been taken off of Google Maps.
Is it been made part of Georgia or Russia, that part of Georgia?
As little politics going on there? Oh, yeah. I think that's
the whole Russian thing is the one it is the story that we're I
mean, I even if we tried to piece it together, what's really
going on, I think is going to, you know, some, the whole thing
is flaky.
Well, something's gotta give somewhere, John. I mean, it's,
like, billions, 10s of billions of dollars has flowed out from
the, from the from Russia and from the stock market. And now a
lot of these oil companies and gas companies are in trouble.
Because they can't access capital, either. There's just a
shortage of actual money, and the only solution is to print
it. And which no one wants to
do that? Well, I don't know. Maybe they're trying to for
here's another theory, if you're gonna go, the whole thing is set
up by the international banking community or whoever, which it
is. Well, I'm not a complete subscriber to that. But let's
just say that they're trying to fix the problem that we have in
the United States, which is unbelievable, you know, debt
that we're suffering under, if you look at the most, you know,
countries in the world, there's a CIA document on this showing
all the levels of debt that various countries have were at,
and we're, we're not even nobody's even close to our
number one with a bullet baby. So we're like way out in front,
but the way you pay off debts, of course, is with cheap money.
And so you want to go into a hyperinflation economy and then
you can you can basically pay off all your debts really cheap
because you know, in hyperinflation, everything all
over sudden starts going up in value, and, and which includes
your pay, and everything else. And then so now we say you're,
you're working on the basis of making $50,000 a year and you
had a $50,000 debt, the debt stays at $50,000. But now
because of hyperinflation, you're making $500,000 a year.
Yeah. Right. So you can pay that $50,000 debt off. Like there's
nothing, just one 10% of your salary when it was once 100% of
your salary. And you know, then, of course, the next year is
you're making a million a year. And that to me, I mean, this
happened in Brazil, I have some of the Brazilian notes that I
have a 500,000 cruzeiro note, which was worth like, would have
been worth like, the equivalent of $500,000 into when I got hold
of it, it was worth it like a buck.
Well, so hold on a second. So I'm totally with you on this,
because that is fascinating. So how do they control that? How do
they under the presumption that it is the bankers? Who are the
true owners of the universe, and not not Lehman Brothers? But
guys above that? How do they how do they control that from
happening? Do they just go threaten the unions and make
sure that wages stay low? I mean, how do you counteract
a hyperinflation trying to go into an inflationary mode, you
have to raise interest rates, right? And you can, but you can
only raise them so much before the economy essentially stops
dead. It's almost like you know, stalling a plane, right? Which,
at this point, you can't, you can't raise it, because then no
one will be, then the housing market will never recover.
Right? So you're between a rock and a hard place. They set it up
almost as though that you know, once the hyperinflation thing
takes off, it's like what happened in Germany in the 30s.
Once the thing which could happen in our country in the our
next decade, which would be the downturn decade. And based on my
cyclical stuff. Once it gets once the spigots open on
hyperinflation, it was very difficult to control it, it just
goes completely crazy. And I mean, it take it might take
3456 10 years before you can get it under control. But meanwhile,
during that era, you can pay off all these old debts. And in a
hyperinflation environment, what you want to be invested in is
real property. Because if you have like a house, it's not
going to go down in value in a hyperinflation environment, it's
going to go up, and it's going to skyrocket as a matter of
fact, so your, you know, half a million dollar home was going to
be worth baby 50 million for all, you know, then they have
to, you know, but essentially, that would fix the problem. But
it would cause an interesting, nobody knows exactly what the
end result would be. I mean, because Germany went through it,
and they don't have any, you know, long term problems that I
can see in their economy. Brazil's gone through it, I
think. Argentina went through it, it's been done.
I think that I think the main difference in in this cycle of
expansion contraction, which of course is how these true owners
of the earth actually make their money by taking our real
possessions when when they contract everything is that now
that you know, there is nothing left? No one has any savings.
There's no 401 K, there's no home, we don't own our cars.
There's nothing left. There's nothing left to create the next
bubble with? You know, they do. That's the way I see it is that
you got bubble following on bubble and it's a 10 year, you
know, whatever that cycle is, and this was the part of the
housing bubble, and then we got the financial bubble, and now
it's over. There's nothing left to take. No savings, no money,
there's just nothing.
There's there's actually, I'm not convinced that your view of
the scorched earth is actually accurate. I mean, I have
properties. And
John, John, you and I are in the top one percentile of animals
going around my neighbourhood. There's houses everywhere.
I mean, you live in an affluent neighbourhood. What are you
talking about? Middle class,
the area of the Northern California has nothing
particularly ritzy about it.
You know what I'm saying? No, I
know, I think you're wrong. I think they're more the
homeownership is extremely high in this country. And yeah,
there's a lot of people that were shaken out of their home
ownerships. And you think, if you look at it, not that many
compared to how many people actually own homes and these
homes will be extremely valuable in a hyperinflation environment.
Yes, sure. They will be but the people will never get to it and
they're walking away from it. They've been paying off their
mortgage or their credit cards. This it was unaffordable. It was
it was a gravy train.
All number of people, dude,
I so disagree. Every everyone was on the property ladder. Hey,
yeah, and I just refinance. refi refi. I mean, look, turn on the
television. They're still trying to
go no everybody reified, but they didn't necessarily put
themselves into the tool hold doing it. Yes. A lot of people
did who just weren't a lot of people is not a it's not the
majority of homeowners, that's for sure.
How do you know?
I did numbers that don't make any sense 30% of the total
holdup, we can do some research. And in fact, I'll bet you
there's somebody out there that has the exact numbers. If it was
10% of the total total homeowners, I'd be surprised it
was the number was that big? It's just be exaggerated.
Well, then the financial meltdown has very little to do
with the housing bubble, then.
No, I think it has. I think it's connected. But I think there's
other things wrong with the financials. I mean, these guys
were they're doing crazy deals every which way. I mean, they
were speculating on the oil. I mean, it was it Lehman Brothers,
or Morgan Stanley, one of the two that has the biggest they're
set in heating oil. I think for this winter, they they're the
biggest holders of the, of all the contracts at the dairy and
everything. These guys are gone crazy.
Okay, well, one thing's for sure. It's overpriced. But
interesting to see if you also knew instead of making 50 grand,
you're making half a million and that you can pay off and that I
guess that only hurt the financial institutions. To
banks. Yeah. Unless they have some small, small fine print.
They can be they can also the banks can be the banks aren't
going to be here, because they're going to all be out of
business. The the banks can deal with this, because if you really
think who's gonna get hurt, it's not going to be our banks. It's
going to be China. China is the one who holds most of the debt
hold all the debt. Yeah. You know, they won't do anything
about changing the value of their money, they won't do this,
they won't do that. They own all the debt, they threatened us
every once in a while they've done this a couple of times all
you know, we can start dumping your, your, you know, your debt
on the market is going to be your dollars gonna be worthless,
they won't do that. Because they themselves. Yeah, so they won't
do that. But the fact that they threatened it, it means it's a
possibility. So you know, say, Okay, well, let's just go into
hyperinflation take the whole thing into the stratosphere, and
we'll pay you guys off, get our money back. And you know, screw
yeah, here, here have $1, you know, here here, half $700
trillion, you know, which is worth nothing.
Right? But can we actually keep the people in line with the
hyperinflation because that's, that's got to lag behind.
Not always lags behind. But Brazilians did it the best. And
if you go to Brazil, and talk about this year, and I was
there, during part of that era, where you couldn't cash your
dollars in, you had to cash in it, like within 10 minutes, so
did your purchase, because it was just like, because it was
changing. So
radically speeding away, leaving a parking garage, you have to
you have to go 100 miles an hour, otherwise, your parking
ticket costs twice as much by the time you get out.
So that the banks there are the ones who saved the day for the
general public, which is when you got your pay for that week,
which would increase on a weekly basis, because of the values go
right into the bank, and the bank would have all the
mechanisms in place to ratchet, whatever was they were holding
with the inflation, right? So in other words, the interest rates
were quite high. And so they would you'd get your money in
there real quick, and then it would ratchet while it was in
there. But it didn't, you know, discouraged actually having
cash.
So which countries did that? Have? I want to look this up?
Brazil, had one of the more interesting periods. And I think
that was in a look in the 70s and 80s, I think something like
that. And then Argentina had a bout of this. And I think many
of the South American countries had about you can go to
Zimbabwe.
I actually had Zimbabwe written down on my on my list of things
to talk about with you today because I wanted to understand
maybe you have an idea. How does this work now they've got
something Gary swung swung Gary, who was elected as the new
leader of the country, but they still leave Mugabe in there and
he's like, he's like still the president or something. How does
that work? That's it.
They can get rid of the guy
that's crazy. He then what kind of power does he must have the
power of the people behind him? This is what everyone calls now.
He's got the secret police. He has actually the Shah of Iran.
Yeah, but what do you How come on the CIA can go in there and
kick his ass anytime they want. Do you think they want to? Well,
Zimbabwe or Rhodesia is never at the no one's ever been able to
control it. But yeah, I think they do. Of course they want to
it's just been extremely difficult. I
could tell me why do they care? So it's a comedy acting
everyone's getting a kick out of it.
Come on Zimbabwe has something
I think has already been pulled out whatever it is, but I'll
tell you this. There's an example of modern
hyperinflation. And I by the way, somebody sent me a note I'm
gonna thank him later. They get a guy trying to get some mugabi
dollars which are the dot which are the hyperemia that Sunday
now you buy stuff with a brick you know they have you just the
money so worthless that they brick it up and put a rubber
band around it and you know you but you know you trade into wait
I have the worthless money but there's these bills I got that
have Mugabe's picture on him. I'm trying to get some mugabi
money.
You've only mentioned this five times, you know,
I mentioned it the last time I'm not going to mention it again. I
mean, I'm gonna have to go through other channels,
obviously, to get this money.
We have more listeners now. So it may just happen your watch,
you'll start getting your books, some guy said
he's got a million dollar move got a million dollar Zimbabwe
note, but it doesn't have Mugabe's picture on it. He's
gonna send it to me anyway. And so I have this, I have a million
dollar note. And in dollars, it's worth like, two cents or a
penny, and but to a collector might be worth $1. So you know,
whatever the case, there's a that's an example of you know,
of a situation where you have hyperinflation run amok. To make
it say, you know, it, you know, what are you doing, you're, you
see the thing, this is one of the reasons, I believe that most
of our debt is kept in dollars, and that every time somebody
wants to switch to the euro, we get upset about it. I always
thought it would be fine if people switch the Euros and then
we could reverse the trend of the value of the dollar. And
then we could kind of screw over anyone who went to the euro.
Well, the Euro has to come down. Now. That's what the European
Central Bank is realising. As it says, got to come down in value.
It's too high. Yeah. I was looking at it. And of course,
every time you mentioned, this is always somebody writes it
right? You don't understand that we international mechanisms,
because I always like to mention wine prices. And I came up with
another one yesterday. So I'm looking at this one, it's a very
small may doc wine I thought was pretty tasty. I had it was like
$13.95, inexpensive Bordeaux, that was being sold locally. And
so I decided to look up the chateau, which I never heard of
before. And I look it up. And there, they had it for sale in
England. And one of the better places that had that has good
prices. And it was it was 10 pounds, 90. So the rain in
England was $22. And the wine here is was $14. And I'm
thinking the wine is coming from France, which is a you know, you
could throw the bottles from Bordeaux and hit London. So it
wasn't like a big shipping problem. And to get the wine to
California, you got to ship across the Atlantic Ocean, you'd
put it on a train across the country, you got to run it
around the Panama Canal. And this is a long way that must be
five bucks and shipping to get this bottle of wine over here
yet it's still cheaper, by a good 678 bucks. What's wrong
with this picture?
Well, they have to manipulate the markets better.
And you know, just you see this obvious discrepancies about why
is somebody in England paying 22 bucks for and this is in you
know, and this thing is obviously sold as a new wine. So
it's been sold in euros, which is you know, skewed toward, away
from the US. Why am I getting this stuff so much cheaper here.
It doesn't make any sense. Unless the whole system is like
caulk guide. Me. And that's why I mean, it's like this. I talked
about the other week, where these, you go to San Francisco
places crawling with Germans and French and Italians, and a lot
of British and they're buying up the place because it's like,
they get all this stuff dirt cheap. But you look at what
they're buying and half the stuffs import imported from
Europe. I mean, it's like, why are you buying stuff here when
you? You know, it's like when I go to Tokyo, and you go to the
gins and you go to those stores and you look in there they have
all this European stuff in there. It's so expensive. That
you go oh my god, why would I even be buying this stuff? You
know, here's ridiculous then you realise this because it's coming
all the way from Europe, you know, and it's showing up in a
Japanese store. Yeah, it's not going to be cheaper. But it is
here.
Let me switch gears here for a second big news about Sotheby's
the auction house for the for the first time ever a living
artist Damien Hirst. Have you heard of this guy? No. This is
the guy who does stuff he does like animals and formaldehyde
and really weird art. Okay, so he set up for an auction on I
think it's Monday which is estimated to sell 65 million
pounds worth this is uh, this may be the guy who actually the
I wonder if he did the the the fat Council collector or
whatever it was that we talked about aeons ago. But anyway,
he's going directly through the Auction House. I don't know much
about auctions, but I do know that when people are worried
about something he's not going through an agent. And now you
know, this is and of course this stuff is all subjective anyway,
and it's, you know, what is art worth other than the materials
that it was put together with? Or as Andy Warhol would say what
you can get away with and and so there's people are thinking this
is going to flop which would just kill the wealth kill a lot
of Um, how the art world is thinking now that, you know, the
they've all the grandmasters have all been bought up and no
one's selling anymore, and they're all hidden away or been
stolen or whatever. And now people are going after living
artists. And so it's it's interesting, it's something
that's never happened in their history before.
You know, living artists stuff isn't dirt cheap. Now, this
guy's just saying I'm saying if, if living artists stuff isn't
dirt cheap, there's not going to move. I mean, the only appeal of
living artists, generally speaking, is to have a nice
decorative piece of possibly good art, inexpensively,
relatively speaking.
Well, I don't know,
who's gonna be paying, you know, this kind of money unless you're
projecting into the future, that's going to be worth more
because it's obviously when you get into the millions of dollars
as investment grade art. And I don't, I'm not seeing it. But
I read this differently. The what I read is that you bypass
the dealer, the dealer is, of course, the key guy, because
he's the one that inflates the value in the market and is out
there doing the PR and the bullshit. So now the artists is
going direct, I don't know if 65 million pounds is dirt cheap.
That it is, it's not inexpensive. But let's put it
this way if anyone had gone through, and I think anyone who
out there collects art from living artists, you 90% of the
time that you find an artist you like you go bypass the dealer
anyway, this is one of the reasons that dealers have to
mark stuff up because they know this goes on and the artists say
oh, you know, I've got an exclusive with such and such a
gallery. That's bull, you can find an artist, you know that
you really like you just track them down. You go to their
studio, you fall all over yourself. And the next thing you
know you're getting the stuff at the artists price to the dealer
or less. I mean, I've had people give me stuff. And so that's not
that's bull. That sounds like the whole thing is a publicity
stunt to Oh, we don't have to go through the dealer and go
straight to the auction house. If you really want this guy
stuff. Just go visit the guy. He's not like hiding.
Speaking of bull the sale centrepiece is the golden calf a
sculpture of a book in formaldehyde with hooves and
horns cast in 18 karat solid gold expected to sell before
between eight and 12 million pounds. It's a bargain
if they're given it away
by two.
Anyway, I'm just saying the whole thing sounds like a scam
and some tech news that you might be interested in the
government the government commission, way, way, way,
way before you go into the tech news. I'm gonna just add one
more little thing that I think by the way that most art you
know, the whole art scene is something of a scam anyway, of
course it is bright, but it's so I want so I like rugs. You know,
I like Turkish and Persian Persian carpets, by the way are
dirt cheap now you can get them
rather well socks like before, before Iran. But
I've always been fascinated. I've always been fascinated by
like these carpets is because they're all handmade and I like
to different sizes. And if I like to flat weeds too, but so I
know enough. And I read books and I tried to figure out
because this worst is worse, much worse than wine. And this
is like extremely complicated business. So I finally found
some expert. And he only had one word of advice. This guy knows
everything in the world about rugs and the Turkish rugs and
the Afghan rugs and the war rugs and all the rest of them. And I
and I said so he gave me the sage piece of advice. He says
whatever you paid for a rug, you paid too much.
That's like the advice I got when I looked at buying my own
plane. And the advice was if it floats, flies a foreigner case
you should rent it. So the UK commissioned a the government
commissioned a report about the internet because he of course,
just like America, you know, said we have to be leading we
have to be the leaders, we need more bandwidth. And so what
they're contemplating now, and I didn't know that this was an
issue, but now that I think about it, it's obviously a
beautification issue. They're now talking about allowing fibre
to run to run above ground in order to to make it cheaper and
to roll it out faster.
That's not new.
It is here.
We don't know because we have fibre come into our place in
Port Angeles.
You have to understand in America a telephone wires and
all this stuff and electricity is above ground in many
countries in the world, John it's and it's below ground. And
that's dumb because people think it's ugly.
It is well you know, I think it's charming to be honest about
it.
I hate it because it really reduces the amount of places I
can land my plane and an emergency.
Well that I can understand. But I'm looking at the I'm looking
at there's some neighbourhoods around here that have you know,
they we do that too. We go underground and always ends up
getting flooded by the rain and it's shorts out it's a disaster,
but it would but to some of the neighbourhoods that had the
telephone poles and they were like loaded with all kinds of
you know, cable TV and and people just wire any Hang on
there. Then they took the poles down and put it all underground
and it looks kind of stir rile it doesn't have any life to it.
I mean, it's just like, you know, just looks kind of, it's
creepy to me. Oh, girl, I was raised in an environment filled
with telephone poles, I have to say, but it's something creepy
about the polis areas, there's no, you don't feel the
connection between people. I mean, you can visibly see the
connections. I mean, you see, this guy's hooked up a pole, you
know, and I'm hooked to the pole, and I got a cable TV thing
coming in. And, you know, and it's easier for them to make
changes they want to bring you want to bring an extra line and
you know, they just want to
throw it over the phone. That's true. I've never thought of it
that way is as you can see the connections between people.
As in Yeah, I think it's Yeah, and I've always found it to be
somewhat comforting. And it's kind of cool to find you go to
the old part of the, you know, some old little town in the
middle of nowhere, and they have all these old metal poles, and
they told me glass insulators and is still you know, it's
sparking, working, you know, and and go, Wow, it's just something
about it. I don't know, I think it's charming in the fact that
people that want to rip these poles down, I can see in in
areas where you can't afford the wood, because these poles are,
you know, typically, you know, pretty tall trees, but I don't
know, doesn't bother me. Let's put it that way.
Right. Well, anyway, it's a big deal over here, because people
don't like their wires running around above ground. It's not.
Yeah, well, in a city, of course. I mean, it's, you don't
want it because it doesn't make any sense. And you got a big
skyscraper and a telephone pole.
that cities are never the problem in that London's got 20
megabytes per second up and down, and they've got the shit.
I'm still doing. One megabit down. 300 kilobytes up from
where I am fastest I can get. Yeah. And pretty late. And boy,
it shows when we do these shows, doesn't it?
Well, sometimes. But you know, that's a pretty blame connection
for today.
It's really lame. And it's just because I'm too far away from
the exchange and it just
to get a good connection as a backup. Yeah, you know, well,
actually, I have
one of those Vodafone dongles that you plug into your laptop.
And although there is a limit, so I can't use it all the time.
whenever I upload a show. I always plug that in, because it
uploads at almost a megabit per second. I have to the wireless
connection is better than the wired connection.
Yeah, that's that there's no reason for that. That's wrong. I
don't think you know, wireless is great, but I'm not wired is,
is best. I'm down with that. So what else? You got your notes?
And I didn't get an only note I had was to do the Sarah Palin
lipstick thing because somebody was interested on Twitter. They
mentioned you got to talk about it. What's your opinion? And I
also had a theory Oh, yeah, I did have one thing I was gonna
do, which was my I was gonna send you this video. But it was
a picture. It was Clinton talking to Obama. He was going
to have lunch with him. And then he was doing this thing. He came
out and says he's going to that Obama is going to win, Haley,
he's going to win big is what he said. Well, he said the word was
handily actually Oh, I thought you said big. Okay. Anyway, so
he would he they showed this video. It's on the blog. And
Clinton is standing there with his mouth open. He looks like
he's gassed. And he goes, sorry,
he doesn't look well. No, he
doesn't look well. He looks like he's drunk, actually. And he
sounds kind of slurry. And I think and now this is like out
there. And I'm thinking I should I even bring this up because
it's obvious that Clinton, Bill Clinton, once Obama, when he
he'll do anything for him to win for obvious reasons. He doesn't
want his wife running in 2012. Because it's a big hassle. And
if she gets to be president, he's life has ruined. Right.
Okay,
I hadn't thought of that. Yeah, that makes sense,
is why his life has ruined me. Well, she wants to him to lose,
because she knows she has a shot in 2012. If he does, you know, I
mean, this is gonna be your last shot. And she'd love to be
president. Otherwise, she wouldn't have put all this work
into it. So she wants him to lose and he wants him to win.
I'm wondering if she's either poisoning him.
Yes, he's gonna kill him. There you go there. Thank you, John. I
love that theory. Next on the Clinton hit list is Bill.
I mean, it just seems to me that he doesn't look himself. And
he's kind of dinghy. And she's, I'm sure he's not happy with
this, him going and meeting with Obama and then now going to
Florida to promote him and all the rest of it. And you know, I
don't know if she has access to his food. But then again, it
could be you know, anybody who would want to get him out of the
picture, but then again, it could also be the Obama people
because if Clinton for some reason, and I'm not wishing this
on the guy because he's, you know, not even old enough to be
elderly. If something happened to me He died, let's say from
natural causes you have a heart attack as part of a heart attack
or from the bad luck with operation or who knows what drug
the drugs that he had to take. I mean, there's a million plus, it
would create a huge sympathy vote for Obama and Oh, man. So I
mean, so you're on his camp could be killing him for all we
know it. I mean, it's just like, there's too many. There's too
many parties that did, it would be a great mystery, by the way,
too, right? Because there's all these different parties that
would like to get rid of him for all kinds of different reasons.
And then again, if it would cause a symphony, a sympathy
vote for Obama, then would Hillary really want him gone? Or
then forget that let's Don't Kill Bill. Let's just make him
kind of dinghy and like a goofball. You know, because
he's, you know, who knows? So he's just,
he can get through, you can get through any kind of
embarrassment. Let me analyse what you're saying, because
that's very interesting. First of all, I think, the idea that
he would hate to be the first, the first man is spot on,
because that effectively takes away his main source of income
was just millions and millions and millions of dollars on the
speaking circuit. I guess. You can't do that when you're
married to the President. So that would probably suck because
and you and I, and you, and I know this, the guy is notorious
cokehead. This is probably what caused his heart trouble in the
first place. He may still be snorting coke. Do you think you
look high?
He didn't look coked up. Let's put it that way. I don't think
so. But he just seemed like he was like, didn't get enough
sleep or his Jesus shadow.
When he's when he turned towards Obama. And it was on profile.
He's a shadow of himself. He's really, really thin. He's, like,
almost a Steve Jobs like transformation. You know. And
Steve Jobs was seriously ill. Clinton had a has a serious
heart issue. But he has not he's not gained back any of his
posture. He was a bit he's a big guy.
Yeah, yeah. And he used to work out eating
away. So anyway, so that so that makes that meant, well, he
wouldn't be hard if he's if he's still a cokehead, it wouldn't be
hard to to keep him addicted.
Oh, man, maybe I'm not buying that. I mean, at his age with
the bad heart, I can't imagine him not having enough willpower
to just say no to that. And I always wondered about people
that are using drugs in their older years. It doesn't make a
lot of sense to me. But the heat something's up is all I know. It
just seems he seemed dinghy. He looked like he was like, in some
other planet. And then he makes these crazy assertions, which,
you know, he's just thought Hillary was gonna win too, as
somebody pointed out, but I just think that this guy's in like,
in you know, he's part of whatever we're going to see in
the next eight weeks or seven weeks is going to be he's going
to be part of the action is going to be. Again, like I said,
when we started the show, this is going to be hilarious little
period to watch, you know, give us some to talk about and I'll
tell you, my, my blog numbers are way up because we do a lot
of political blog posts. Mostly my bloggers are all a bunch of
Democrats generally. And we're going to thank Bubba, by the way
for putting the notes
right onto bubba. Hey, so I look this up here. So he said Obama
will will win handily. Yeah, handily advised, said handily,
skillfully deck seriously dexterously expertly,
conveniently, or easily, easily is actually the third meaning
according to
Yeah, I think he meant easily. And then last night on the Bill
Maher show you had your typical two you had two Democrats,
Salman Rushdie, who I didn't realise was almost a you know, a
socialist, and, and Janine Garoppolo who was like, you
know, this, you know, woman,
by the way, by the way, I love Janine garofolo. So lay off.
She's awesome. Have you seen those digits? You could just see
her tattoos on her arms. Yeah, she got tattoos. Lots of
tattoos. Now she's hot, man. There's
something really hot about her. I like her. I've never thought
her as hot in any way. But that's okay with you. I
love all willing because they're all Sun princesses. Okay.
Can I finish? Yes. So the two of them. These two are sitting next
year. They both agree. And by the way, there's a guy from Wall
Street Journal, John Ford, I think is his name, who actually
stood up to everybody very nice them at the sentiment email. But
anyway, the these two both agreed to each other. That is
going to be a landslide for Obama really matter what anybody
thinks. And that's they're not the only ones who feel this way.
And that's where I think the Clinton thing came from.
Interesting. And what's interesting to me is that if you
go to the other side of the fence, and I'm like, try to
listen to both sides, for the purposes of this show, have no
other reason to listen to Rush Limbaugh, who has become a very
good deconstructionist. He believes it'll be a landslide
from you know, he's doesn't say it'll be a landslide for McCain,
but he says he wouldn't be surprised. And I'm kind of more
in agreement with him. Well,
I think, except there's one. There's one little catch, which
is, although it was I think it was poorly executed. Ron Paul's
endorsement. Where do you endorse what? What exactly
happened there? At first it really
was where I never got to see the end of it. I know that we're
gonna do some sort of a deal I thought they were gonna run the
guy was he gonna say this guy web not web. But the, that other
the the Libertarian candidate? Did he endorse him?
I'm looking it up. Because and this is I was really pissed
because all of a sudden, I started getting all the emails
from people saying, Hey, man, hey, Ron, Paul, and Ron, your
big announcement, and they had some heat go and everyone was
talking about it. Everyone was blogging about it. And yeah, we
blogged it. Yeah. And then and then it's like Brown, it just
kind of dies. And you know, there's no no coverage, no,
nothing. And I'm looking now on campaign for liberty.com. I
think that he endorsed the was either the libertarian
would have to be the libertarian, who else would be
the Constitution Party. Oh, I guess there's another one. Yeah,
there's actually about three fringe groups that are running
this is
this is thing that our foreign listeners probably don't realise
is that America is not just a to effectively it is, of course, a
two party system. But it's not that, you know, anyone can stand
up and run for president. And you don't even have to be a
member of a party. And there are plenty of people that put
themselves on the ticket. The problem is, of course, they
don't get invited to the debates. And so if you're not in
television, and you don't have the budget for television, then
you don't become president, nor do you become Maj. Selling
Palmolive. That's just the way it works. Yeah, they don't even
have it on their on their website. What the hell is
bars the guy that's running? Right. And Chuck Baldwin, that's
libertarian guy. He knows Joe Baldwin is the Constitution
Party and bars deliberately. So I
think Ron Paul endorsed both of them. Is that the story?
I didn't know I did. I never got the follow up to this story. I
just blogged the first part of it, which was on the ninth and
then I never heard anything else and never bothered checking. You
know, I thought it would show up in the VA on the radar never
did.
That's frustrating.
Well, how did you do a Google and Ryan bar and or Bob bar and
Ron Paul?
Yeah. So I have a divider. Not a uniter that American chronicle
is the top hit Give me a break. Singh wasn't covering. Oh, I
see bought Oh, no. And the chance of a bar as Ron Paul to
be his running mate.
Right. But didn't he decline? Well, what Yeah, well, he
said in advance, long time ago that he wasn't going to do
anything that would. He wasn't gonna do anything if he couldn't
get the nomination as a Republican. I mean, he made a
point of that.
Oh, what's this? Now I'm seeing Bob Barr pulled out of a press
conference, Paul's campaign for Liberty held the National Press
Club in DC, which included independent presidential
candidate Ralph Nader. Green Party candidate Cynthia
McKinney. Oh, that's right. And concept Constitution Party
candidate, Chuck Baldwin. So I guess what Ron Paul was was
doing was saying, Hey, here's some alternatives that you can
also vote for Cynthia McKinney, by the way very interesting.
Story, you know about her? No. Oh my gosh. She there's a
there's an there's a whole documentary movie about her.
I'll send you a link. I can't remember the name of it is right
now. But she is she's quite a history of changing politics in
the United States. She's black senator. Black female. So
I've seen her yeah, not you mentioned it just because she's
to handle
a very sharp. Well, extremely, and Ralph Nader. He's he I heard
him on the Alex Jones Show the other day. He's now become a
truther. How about them apples?
Well, the truth of the thing has got you know, the problem is, is
that you here's the problem that I don't know what I mean. I'm
almost thinking that the government is encouraged
encouraging this, the truthers because they refused to release
the videotape from the gas station showing the plane
crashing into the Pentagon. Why?
Because, because it wasn't a plane because it wasn't a plane
John, it was a missile, dauntless whatever they listen
to this, listen to me for all this crap. Don't don't know
about the flight data recorder. You don't know about that. All
right, tell me about it. Okay, the flight data recorder. This
is from pilots for 911 truth.ca.org and I'm a
member of that because I act that's the one thing I actually
know something about us about flying. And so the NTSB finally
released the the black box data. And first of all, it shows a
trajectory this This 757 made, which is any professional pilot,
and many of them have said impossible to do. You can't pull
that manoeuvre off with that type of aircraft, which is a 330
degree turn. But also the altimeter settings because you
know, we know the atmospheric conditions for each day. That's
history, right? It's written down, and the way the alternate
altimeter was set and the data that the doctor data the NTSB
sent shows that the plane actually overflew the Pentagon
by about 480 feet as it dropped the motherfucking missile and
flew off, which I witnesses have also said they saw happen, so
there was no plane. That's why they don't release that footage
because it was and by the way, it happened to be on a piece of
a side of the Pentagon that was under construction that had just
been fortified. It was the exact opposite side of the building is
where any of the heavyweights sat. And by the way, if you're
going to crash a plane and kill someone in the Pentagon hit the
frickin roof. Why try and skim along the ground, which is
virtually impossible to do skim along the ground for a hundreds
of feet to hit right into the side. I mean, no, this was a
missile that was sent by a that was shot off by a plane that
overflew and left it's a standard manoeuvre. And that's
from the data. This data by the way, the black box rebooted
itself 20 times in in this 45 minute flight. That's at least
that's the data that NTSB sent back to the pilots for
911 truth.org. That does not either that doesn't happen. Or
it would the plane would never take off. These black boxes are
checked before they leave this regular routine checks,
rebooting 20 times in a short flight now it wasn't rebooted
was Dr. Data, doctored poorly. Experts have corroborated this.
And that's why they're not going to release the footage.
nevermind the fact that there's not a single shred of passenger
or luggage. I love flight 93 By the way, that's my favourite,
the plane that board itself into the ground in Pennsylvania. And
they found nothing except a passport and a bandana belonging
to the five foot hijacker who hijacked this aeroplane with a
box cutter nothing is found nothing but the bandana and the
passport.
Just like Muhammad truther, right.
Oh, no, I've never had that. I've always been a truther.
So So here's the thing that the the some of the other aspects
that are kind of interesting. I mean, besides that the plane
crash in Pennsylvania. There's a if the guy have seen it a
fighter plane, did a low pass over the Pentagon and dropped a
missile or sent a little Stinger into that or whatever they sent.
It was obviously some big site. I don't know, boom, they blow it
up with a cruise missile. Perhaps I don't know. Why didn't
you use a cruise missile instead of this fighter is another
question. But I would suspect that the glider pilot if there
was a fighter pilot, and the whole thing wasn't just a
missile from the beginning sent from someplace else, which would
make more sense to me. The fighter pilot I think life would
be in jeopardy.
Well, yeah, who says the guy is still alive? You don't know
that? I'm just saying more important is what happened to
the people on flight 93?
Well, you know that if you there was 177, or whatever it
was, listen to this. I want you to listen to this audio clip or
this video clip of Donald Rumsfeld. You've probably heard
this one before. It's a Freudian slip as he's getting a news.
If we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who
bombed the best home and most are the people who did the
bombing in Spain, are the people who attack the United States in
New York. Shut down the plane over Pennsylvania.
Did you hear that? shot down the plane in Pennsylvania that
Donald Rumsfeld Freudian slip, come on.
Yeah, no, that's good. Yeah. So I think they'd find some of the
bodies or something but not no, there was the other report that
the plane never never laid out. That whole thing was rigged up
and they landed someplace they took all the people off and did
of course, they're probably in a in Gitmo. I mean, who knows, I
actually followed
this whole 93 story about who owned that land. There was a big
dispute about the memorial. And I did follow that trail for a
while I got bored with it. But there's there's a lot of
weirdness going on with the ownership of that of the land
that were crashed and then next to it, you know, there was the
people want to build a memorial and there's all kinds of stuff
going on with that. That's That's weird. I think we do.
It's that and world trend, the World Trade Centre building
number seven, those two really looking into that investigating.
Those are the ones that really what I said now, right, you
know, we certainly need a brand new full investigation.
Hey, oh, well, whatever the case, I think you might as well
take the whole thing back to TWA Flight 800. That I think
you probably could probably
because that's still a suspicious because they're still
have their disguise reports and nobody ever talked to me because
they didn't do a very thorough investigation of asking the
eyewitnesses anything, they just made their report that it was
this tank blew up, and then they still have I guess the model of
the thing someplace, they have all the pieces, and some
warehouse and they I guess they're still looking it over.
But to tell you, John, yeah, I'm definitely a truther I've just,
I've just heard too many really smart people look at this from
too many different angles. And, and the thing is, you know, I'm
I just turned 44. And I really have come to the realisation
that and this of course, is is the big things, the big
awakening, the big Oh, wow moment is when everything that
you've been taught from from a small child, that there actually
is very true evil in the world. And there are people who are
just evil and will do evil things. So I you know, and that,
that.
So you'd put Rumsfeld in that group.
Yeah, I think he'd be close to the top of the list. Now, but
they, they're just evil, evil people. And I've had a couple I
remember when I first got into business, you know, because I'd
been working in entertainment, wishing you get like a check,
but never really ran my own company. We had our own company.
And, you know, there were people who would come in who seemed
like the most credible and they were credible, and they just
fuck you. People will just fuck you. I mean, for money for any
for money, they will do anything they want anything. They will
lie and cheat and fuck you. And so this this evil is out there.
Yeah, no, I would have to say that. You could pretty much
query me on anything about in regards to 911. And I could
probably answer it.
Okay, well,
like, Fuck no, I'm not going to ask this guy anything.
I'm sure that there'll be some questions coming in.
The latest thing that was in the paper was I love this one.
Because, you know, of course, the NIS t, which is, it's a
bush, it's part of the administration is like some, you
know, it's an organisation that he chooses, he puts together. So
they came out with their building seven report, which of
course, was laughable. But they had to go a little bit further.
And I think it was, it was yesterday, there was saying that
the reason why the steel melted in the world in the first time
in history, and they actually say this is an unprecedented
event. This has never happened before. It's amazing what
happened, John, you won't believe it. The actual magnetic
structure of the steel in these buildings was somehow modified
probably due to age or something else wrote and weather
conditions may vary. Again, seriously, no, no, no, this is
coming from the government. No, no, no, no, this come from the
government. Dude, listen to me. This is not for me. This is the
ridiculous lengths they're going to to cover this up by saying,
Well, normally of course jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to
melt steel. But these steel beams something had happened
magnet This is the government saying something happened to the
magnetically and they were sufficiently weakened. So they
were able to start melting at 500 degrees. Is the government
now saying this?
Now that's ridiculous. To new Mercury alloy.
It's ridiculous. It's frickin stupid and it's insulting.
Well, I think that leaves us hanging.
Yeah. Anyway, your home your homework, John, as you should
go. Look at Rosie O'Donnell's weblog. You laugh. You laugh. I
know Rosie and I have known her for a long time. Actually. I got
her her first gig on VH one,
give me the summation and I go look at it.
She has a guy on whose name is William Rodriguez. Wilmer gigas
was caretaker of I don't know which Tower One of the two
towers and his office was on sublevel. One there were six
levels. So he was on the highest level of the sub levels. And
before the plane hit the building. There were multiple
explosions in the basement.
Yeah, I know that this has been documented by a bunch of people
that heard multiple explosions, right?
But it's not in the official conspiracy theory known as the
911 report. That they they interviewed him they didn't
write anything. He gave him like 15 Other names to talk to one
guy who was one level below him who his job was to restock the
vending machines. He all the skin was burned off from the
explosion. He lived but he came up actually, I don't know if he
lived or not. But he came up with a skin hanging off and
there's tonnes and tonnes of eyewitness accounts of this and
there's all this. It's all over the place. It's On high double,
you know, and that's okay. So maybe that's my conspiracy, the
alternative conspiracy theory, but the 911 Commission Report,
which I have right here on my bookcase doesn't mention
anything about that. Not not even, you know the mention of
you know, some people thought nothing I can I can hear you
sliding over to my side of the fence. It's
what's interesting about this is that if, let's assume that the
older truthers were right, and this was a neuron, what's the
wood they burnt down the righteous dog, I think in
Germany,
he wants to call it Pearl Harbour, the new Pearl Harbour.
So you get so he gets everybody all jacked up on what, you know,
in one way or another. The thing because it's such a ridiculous
event, you know, to drop these two buildings that are just in
the middle of town, and they're one of the biggest buildings in
the world. And it took a lot of effort and planning obviously,
to make this work if all if the truthers are, right. It's, it's
like, it's almost like saying, Look, I wonder how outrageous we
can get with the American public to see how you know, before they
realise that they're just being suckered left and right. It's
just that you know, that concept. It's somebody that a
group of people that say, you know, whoever the foreign
relations crowd or whatever you want to whatever they are the
Council of Foreign
Relations. Yes. You know, which includes Obama, the Trilateral
Commission. Yes.
Yeah. All these crazy things I remember read about this stuff
in the 60s. It's
because that's what it started. That's what was your duty, you
are on duty, John C. Dvorak, you should have stopped that shit,
then you let it slide.
I was buffaloed. Anyway, so it's just nice. Like, we gave me this
almost like a comedy act at this level, if what you're saying is
true, because it's almost like saying, what that how dumb are
these people? Let's, let's, you know, do this. And let's do
that. I mean, it's almost to the point where you can almost
suspect Obama himself as part of the whole grand scheme. Thank
you. Finally, it's like let's, let's see if we can get a black
guy in. Oh, we can get a black man elected president. I think
we can do that. Well, okay. Well, let's change a little bit.
Let's make it black. It was a ridiculous name.
Yes, exactly. And just to fuck with everyone will make his
middle name Hussein. Just a mess with everyone. John, you know
what, I'm so happy to hear this. You are finally seeing the light
my brother you are waking up. You're finally seeing what you
know what, you know why? They absolutely thought and because
they had all the media in their pocket. They have radio,
newspapers, books, television, primarily. They've you know,
television is a hypnotic medium. I've been in it long enough to
know how it works. You can absolutely bullshit anything you
want for any reason people will buy it because it's on
television, they still think it's true. But what they didn't
understand. And most of these guys, you know, they might have
a Blackberry, which is simple enough for them to understand
what they do not understand the internet, they do not they were
not a part of this taking place. And this is what's happened. All
of this collective knowledge. Just look at Google, you type in
Rumsfeld plane shot down. And within three seconds, I've got
you know, this video of him, which is really not doctored
video of Rumsfeld talking about the plane in Pennsylvania being
shot down this collective information that we have at our
fingertips, which is, of course the next thing to go, you know,
they're now realising Oh, shit, you know, more and more people
are jacking into this. And they're starting to catch on.
And that's where they made the mistake, because absolutely
zigzoo Brzezinski, who was Obama's advisor on foreign
foreign affairs, read his book, John read his book, his I'll
look at the title for a second. It he outlines all of this
stuff, all of it. And these guys are huge on, on on on the
Georgia thing. Yes, it's orchestrated. Absolutely. And I
totally believe they went out and look for the Manchurian
Candidate. Absolutely. Now they play both sides of the fence
because they've also got McCain. And it's the same people they
don't give us You can't lose
it by your theory. There's a no lose situation, either one of
these two guys gets in. Yes. Yeah.
Absolutely. If they win, no matter what, and they're saying
the same things. You know, and right now all this was so
beautiful, man, I talked about this on a daily source code. So
huge and turn offs have been spotted in Afghanistan. And
these are Ukrainian registered and two nos, which of course, it
means.
Monster plans got like eight engines and a million tires.
Yeah. And that. So these are coming from the Ukraine, the
place that Vice President Dick Cheney visited during the
Republican National Convention under the cover of all that
hoopla. And they're unloading tanks, John tanks. Now, let me
ask you, because you are a man of the world. What will you do
with 10 tanks in Afghanistan. I don't know nothing, because the
Russians already proved that the tanks are ineffective in that
mountainous terrain. They're unusable. However, the road to
Iran is right there. And Iran is completely perfect for tanks. So
so this whole thing of all let's move the troops out of Iraq,
they gotta go to Afghanistan. They're all going to
Afghanistan, because that's the ground force that's going to
enter into Iran.
Wow, that's a good one. I haven't. I haven't heard that
one. That's not bad. I like that. So who says this? Is that
your theory?
No, no, this is from, you know, there's pictures. There's not
mazes your theory about they're moving to Afghanistan. I mean,
guys, I never thought of the two step process where Obama wants
to move all the troops to Afghanistan. And so then you say
so they both
to Iran, they both do. They both are? That's the whole that's
this is how this is how
they both do, but whose theory is that we're moving stuff
through Afghanistan, so we can invade Iraq.
I can't say I'm sure lots of people have seen this because
you open up Google Earth and you look at the frickin geometry,
geography of it all. And you say, Okay, I see where Georgia
is. I see where Ukraine is. I see where Afghanistan is. Oh,
isn't that interesting? Now I know the tanks don't work in the
mountains. I know that. This is well known.
All right. Okay. Okay. Now what? So what's Brzezinski his book?
I'll read it over the weekend.
You'll love this book. Hold on a second. Presents ease book.
Don't you just love this collective? Here we go.
case book. Is Google. Do you want to shut down this thing,
folks? Just shut down Google.
That's true. I'm really worried about Google. I am very worried
about it. I'm worried about you know who's in charge over there.
Let's be honest. Eric Schmidt looks pretty scary.
Well, he was with Sun Microsystems for a long time.
And there's a lot of connection between Sun Microsystems and the
agency.
Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it? The grand chessboard is what
it's called America's primacy is a premise here primacy. Famously
Mr. MC I think the best they can get away with it.
America's primacy and his geo strategic imperatives read this
book. All right, read this book. Everything that is happening now
or is being proposed is described in this book. Okay,
how to get it and read it this week. And this guy is in cahoots
with Soros that you know, so this is where all this money is
coming from Obama's like a billion dollar campaign at this
point. is huge money huge. John, I love it. Wow, love that sound.
I love that. I'm gonna let's stop the show right here.
Because the sound of silence No, no, it's not the sound of
silence. It's got me stumped again ladies and gentlemen. It's
the sound of you actually going hey, wait a minute. This crazy
guy oh my goodness, there might be something to all of this loss
more where that came from?
Yeah, remember no one's done a lot of it next week. I'm
I'm open. And we didn't talk about it. But I hope people are
okay in Texas.
That storm is really a whopper Yeah, that's massive. And of
course, it gets coverage but not the same type of urgency. As
Gustaf got.
Now Gustaf got more because of the new app nor New Orleans and
in fact, it was during a convention that gave him an
excuse to send Cheney to the Ukraine, Ukraine. So the
interesting thing about this I mean this thing is this storm
thing is like taking up the whole Gulf of Mexico and it's
kind of as it comes into it but the thing that always gets me
about these storms is they you go to CNN or any of these
stations and they got these guys in the store and
Geraldo Rivera is Geraldo Rivera is the funniest if you've seen
him like a piece of the pier popped up and hit him in the leg
it was hilarious like yeah, this is great. This is television
crazy Wow, this was one of my I've never ended the show on
such a high
Oh, good. I shouldn't get used to it. I'm gonna go watch Cal
hopefully beat Maryland.
All right, I'm gonna take my daughter to walk on mama. Okay,
are you familiar with Walker Mama?
No, what is Walgett mama
it's like a fast food Chinese. Vietnamese Thai place kinda
don't have me here. It's a guy that's an English outfit. They
get like 50 of them or something it's pretty big. All right one
of these days you know we're gonna have to actually do a show
midweek because something astronomic is gonna take place.
Yeah, we do it so I can gloat to see.
Well, you haven't had many opportunities. It's
all right. It's coming to you from Gitmo nation east. My name
is Adam curry.
And from getting mo nation West, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will talk to you again next week right here. No agenda