held captive by the invisible bars of the cage we call get mo
nation stranded at the outer markers of society. This is no
agenda coming to you from the United Kingdom where the
Atlantic storms have wreaked havoc on this tiny island. I'm
Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak here in Northern Silicon Valley,
otherwise known as get mo West or East nation, depending on
where you're coming in which direction you're headed.
Exactly. Hey, Keith, apparently makes no difference. But it's
boiling hot here. So I'm not complaining about the weather,
that's for sure. Well, I am complaining about the weather
not to mention it.
But that's because I made you turn off the fans and all of
your cooling equipment, so we could have a decent, decent
sound from you.
Yeah, well, you know, it'll be it'll be fine for a while. Yeah,
we've had a hot spell here.
Yeah. Well, it's it's been absolutely horrendous here. And
they're calling it the Atlantic storms. Which
this is based on those hurricanes that we're getting
down in Florida.
Yeah. They don't even actually explain what they're basing it
on. But I think that's that's the general idea. It's well, of
course, any storm that's coming off from the west is by
definition going to be an Atlantic storm. But yeah, I
think, you know, how can it not be related? There's, what is it
now for hurricanes that that have been hanging around there?
Yeah, they're pounding him. Last year, was it last year, they had
no hurricanes? Yeah. And then I think they did, maybe I don't
know when was, I think since Katrina, there's really been not
much action. And now we're having a slew of them. Again,
this is all random number theory. These things come in
bunches.
Meanwhile, there's lots of earthquakes going on. China had
another major one, me and mar or Burma had another major
earthquake.
And my wife tracks these things. She actually looks daily. I
asked her
Hey, I do I do too. She tracks hurricanes or earthquakes.
Earthquakes, yeah. Now there's the US GC or whatever it is that
je s USGS. Yeah, they have a website and they give you the
depth and they give you Google Earth mappings. It's very cool.
Yeah. And they in the show patterns. I mean, there's like
hundreds every day that are, you know, unreal, you wouldn't know
if you're sitting on him. But there's a whole slew of them
that constantly take place. And there are patterns. And she's
actually predicted two or three of the ones that hit later.
Really? Yeah. She says, Did you know there's a pattern of this
in she knows what if you keep I guess, if you look at earthquake
data, every day for like, 30 years, yeah,
you start to develop some neural network. Intelligence, I guess.
Yeah. And you get a kit. Oh, this is interesting. This isn't
usual, something that means something's gonna happen. And
then it happens. And then you know, you get a feeling for
where it's going to happen. She's pretty good. Well,
Patricia, she's worried. Of course, she's worried, of
course, about the, you know, Whopper, you know, which gets
hit the Pacific Northwest has earthquakes, but they don't have
very many, and they don't have like in California, we have
them, you know, routinely will have an earthquake once in a
while. And you feel it. And it's not a big deal. But in the
Pacific Northwest, nobody's used to them. And when they have
them, they have Whoppers.
There was there was a couple of really big ones on off Vancouver
Island. Right? Like, like, for a whole week. And actually,
Patricia had some kind of vision. She said Carmel, Carmel,
California. I'm like, You mean like, we're Clint Eastwood. And
they're like, Yeah, I'm getting something through about Carmel.
I don't know. I don't know. So you're
not the only one in the house. That's interesting.
But she's legit. Dude. Patricia's for real.
Well, we'll keep an eye on that. But carnales got no big
buildings or anything if they had an earthquake I'll do is
knock over trinkets from the various stores selling junk.
Well, maybe she was just talking about the location of some kind
of big earthquake. I don't know. Maybe it wasn't an earthquake at
all. Maybe it's something completely unrelated. I don't
know. But I did go immediately to my you know, my size
seismology data. Let me see what's going on there around
Carmel.
I have a vision about Carmel. I sense there's going to be a slew
of golfers.
Have you ever really been there? I mean, I went through with Ron
and I and Patricia and Marta. We went to one of those Kleiner
Perkins off sites at Pebble Beach on the way back we stopped
at Carmel. It's like Stepford Wives. It's really quite
frightening.
It's a cute little town.
It's too clean, too pristine. Everything's measured and
proper.
It's like, it's like a stick. The entire town knows what it
is. It's a tourist town. Yeah. And that's what they do. They
unlike a lot of these little towns that don't know what
they're up to, because they have corrupt governments. You know?
Yeah, totally. Yeah, Carmel is clean.
So I got a word for your John for this week.
A new word. Okay, gazundering.
Is that a real word?
Well, it's it's a word that the Financial Times uses. It's the
counterpart to gazumping
now is a real word.
It's a word. You know, I don't know if it's in a dictionary,
but it's a word that's used quite regularly. And they both
of them have to do with, with the housing market. So
consumption, which I learned a couple of years ago, as we were
looking for a property here, because there's no such thing as
a property being an escrow in the UK, you're literally
exchange money and title on the same day, and it could break,
you know, 30 seconds before the deal, it could fall apart. Yeah,
I mean, it's a very, very weird system. So there's no concept of
a home being an escrow. And what what was happening during the
housing boom, is, you know, you'd make a deal with, with
someone who's selling and then you didn't agree on a closing
date, and then someone else who'd come behind your back and
Kazaam, pew and hand you know, like an extra 50 grand under the
table or just above board on the price, you know, and that's
called the Zamp. Now, they have something called a Gunder.
gazundering where, you know, people are desperately trying to
sell their houses. And so, you know, let's say you have your
house and this is happening with, certainly with higher
priced properties, but also just across the board. So let's say
you have a house on the market for 500,000. Some will say,
Okay, I'm gonna buy your house for you agree upon the 500,000.
And then just before they're at closing, they'll say, Well, you
know, really, we're really only going to offer 400,000. And then
basically, you can take it or leave it at that minute, and
this is running rampant up to 30% is being underbid and people
are taking it.
Huh. What gets me about the whole thing is the fact that the
that, that we're in a situation in California, where all our
prices are down about 25%. And at least and you know, it's
probably I still think it's bottoming out right now.
Do you feel that bottom? John, do you? Do you feel down 10,000
Come on my friend.
I can feel it and you can feel in your but
not yet. It's not yet. It's still a big gaping hole?
Yeah, it's got 60 more days, and then it starts to go up. So
elections over
Yeah, we'll get into that. Tell me about the housing.
So what gets me is that there are all these people that you
know, during the housing, boom, they're all standing in line,
they're over bidding, they're going crazy houses are on the
market for two minutes, and then they are over bid. And you know,
everybody just needs you know, there's just they go nuts. The
market turns around and the same people are still looking for
places to to live, they pull out of the market. Yeah. Why do
people of course isn't you know, just a stupid question because
we know the answer. But it's interesting, you know, herd
mentality when you have a buyers market, the buyers they all
disappear and when you have a seller's market, those buyers
are flocking to get screwed to get fleeced. It's almost as
though everybody wants to get you know ripped off it's
unbelievable to me. So right now you shouldn't be buying property
right now as we speak.
No, I think there's still a good six months to go before you even
start looking. This is this is gonna go so much further this
way to replace
I'm talking about people that haven't got a place you're
looking for a place you not only have a good price do you have
good prices right now. But your selection you have a selection
you can get the house you want not just any old place, right?
It doesn't make sense to me that now's the time. You don't have a
place you've been looking for a place you know it but now it's
hard to get a mortgage job Yeah, I know the mortgage sees a
problem but if it's a problem you'll get a mortgage it's not
as though there are no there's no such thing as mortgages. No,
but
you know, it's like most people are up to their neck and trying
to get rid of their their I mean, how many people have no
mortgage no debts and are looking for something and can
actually get a mortgage? What's that market gotta be today? Huge
now, please.
Right now you have a selection. It's casual. You can get
anything you want. I just don't get injured. nobody even cares.
They're just gonna wait until there's nothing left when it
picks back up and everything's going up again. And they're
gonna get in they're gonna get and it's just baffling to me. I
you know, my motto buy low sell high.
Yeah, but we're not at low yet. We're not there yet.
Well, you don't have to be at the dead low.
Well, it'd be it'd be nice.
Too hard to pick. Yeah,
well, you know obviously this whole thing was not that's what
everybody's
doing by the way. That's what they all think in there all day.
Oh, just wait till it gets to the bottom. You don't know what
the bottom is. The bottom could be yesterday. By the way, we
should thank Bubba Martin for doing our show notes. We haven't
thanked him for a while. And now he's you know, he mentioned this
everyone's rolling with this. Hey, or feelings. Hey, guys
aren't mentioned. That's on the divorce.org/cage match, you
should go there. And he's getting his actually he's
getting we just got about a half a million page views a month on
that site now. Yeah, it's doing all right. Yeah. It's amazing.
So the reason why I say we're not at the bottom, John is this
is, you know, this weekend, you know, what's taking place as we
speak. The US government is putting together the bailout for
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and that'll all be announced on
Monday. And then we're going to see maybe kind of the direction
of where the bottom is. This is, I mean, this is so big, and, you
know, please, let's just I mentioned the $800 trillion of
derivatives,
that's gonna that's going to start unwinding. You watch.
Well, you know, this already I think that a lot of it already
has unwound
no way not the derivatives that has not unwound at all. And when
I do
yeah, well then I mean, the markets Yeah, the derivatives
things an issue,
John $100 trillion. Yeah, that's an issue that's huge. Yeah, and
you know, I'm so out of anything that has any at least
the oil is falling like a rock Yeah. Oh, gee, that
really noticed that at the pump. Not
I have my guy my local gas station right around the corner
is going down. It's been going down five cents. has been going
down a nickel a day. Really was it was down a nickel. What's it
and what's that? What's a gallon, right now of premium,
the highest the most expensive obviously, I can get for 403.
Okay, down from 490.
She's always
suspect by the end, and by the time we do the show next week,
it'll be under four bucks, and then it'll be down back to where
it belongs. Well, it's never gonna get to the courses. The
whole joke is it never goes back to where it started. Right? I
think it'd be around 290 Probably within six months.
Okay
325 Maybe
and I'm just doing a comparison here. It's all it's all messed
up because now the pound is so weak. All of a sudden, yeah. As
expected and like 10% Well, yeah, I guess you're right. But
now China's out of money do you read about this? Oh, my China's
out of money
start the printing presses
that's the conversation right now in China because the the
sovereign wealth fund you know this is Ted been tapped out
basically by by us and and so now there's you know, this calls
for more cash and the Chinese are going in we really want to
invest but you know, we got no money so now they're talking
about maybe going to the printing press, but they already
but they already have 12% inflation so
may not be a good idea.
I wouldn't think and never is a good idea.
But it's fun. I think Monday is going to be a very interesting
day all this news is going to come out it's a weekend deal
with with the Treasury with the Federal Reserve with the you
know the the two CEOs are already out at Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac they already
we got a lot of incompetent management people floating
around what they say they're out with the golden handcuffs. And
well of course there's that's parachutes whatever they
are those guys always make out. Of course they do. So
what's so what's in the news this week, besides grim
financial outlooks? That's pretty
much it, John, it's all just fucked. That's all the
Republican National Convention. Did you watch it? Yes,
I did watch some of it. Of course, you know, and obviously,
we talked about the surprises, right? Yeah, it was, it wasn't a
great show. It was and it was of course, overshadowed by probably
purposely so by Gustaf and
maybe to you guys it would Gustaf was a big dud here.
Listen to how we're talking about it.
It was a it was a media dud, that's for sure.
It was the it was the coho tech of hurricanes. The Ishtar
of tropical storms
come up with a million analogies to one sticks. That's what we
do.
Now. It was pretty much Gustaf there you know a lot about Palin
obviously. But the really in the news now is it's all about this
country being broke. The gas companies raise their prices,
you know 23 between 23 and 30 cents a percent I'm sorry. You
know, there's there's a there is a real looming food shortage.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's
there's a lot of stuff that that the the big box grocers can't
get? It's just like what like fruit, particularly fruit fruit
is getting difficult. I'm not quite sure why. Well, yeah, I
mean, on a global scale, and I'm not sure where it all comes from
who there Buying from her. That's all very confusing. But
yeah, there's a shortage of it.
Hmm, we don't have any food shortages here. Okay, at least
not in California as we grow our own. So it's not like a big
deal. We're in an agricultural state.
Yeah. But also
just the prices of food. I mean, it's all over the papers. You
know, it's up 50% some categories up 100%. I mean,
that's, that's pretty significant.
We don't have that going on.
Well, we do here. And we don't
know that, but we don't know that it's going on there.
And you shouldn't care either. Screw you. Screw you. You lie
knees. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's, well, you know, ever since the
Alistair Darling, who was What is he is the chancellor. So he's
like the CFO, like the Chief Financial Officer of the
country, ever since the exchequer via the exchequer ever
since he came out and said, Well, you know, this will be the
worst political, worst economic climate we've had in 60 years.
And we were looking at 2 million people being out of a job. I
mean, that didn't help. You know, everyone's like, freaking
out.
Well, that's like these guys who said the gas was gonna go to
$200 a barrel. And what is the point of these prognostications?
You know, when it's all just guesswork?
How long are you gonna rub that in my face? I think we got
pretty close to 200 a barrel, you know, it went up quite a
bit in your face. I'm talking about the guys like Goldman
Sachs and no, and
they probably they're probably on the inside, they probably
didn't.
Why would they do such a thing?
For for gain? Obviously. Yeah.
No, I'm not gonna rub in your face and rub me You know, I
mean, just a coincidence that you agreed with them. But you
have a gloomy outlook, I can see why. Now. These credit. We do
have the news over here that the British economy seems to be in
the toilet but that's about it. Not too much detail. Well, now.
So
it's not it's all of the Eurozone is going into a
recession. That's that's really what the big deal is. And what
you know, essentially, what has been happening in the States has
been happening over here. The European Central Bank has been
lending banks money for, I don't know, since since all the start
of 2007. Probably. And now the the total amount that they've
lent out to banks is something like, six or $700 billion. Yeah,
there's like, it was like 400 billion euros that they've lent
out. And now the European Central Bank has said, Okay,
that's it. We're closing up, and now everyone's freaking out. And
that's in the papers too. So yeah, it's not clear to get that
that's not really good news. Well,
yeah. I don't know.
Well, we do know one thing we do not want that we've been hoping
at least the financial people here have been hoping that the
Europeans lower their interest rates and only way they're going
to do this to get into a recession. You know, the lower
their interest rates because, you know, that moves money out
of Europe into the dollar, which pumps up the dollar and get our
dollar back to where it belongs, which should be you know,
ideally, the euro and the dollar should be one to one. And, you
know, it defected it got as high as a buck and a half as 45 or
whatever it gets is ridiculous.
And now and now there's like something like 50 billion moved
out of Russia ever since the Georgian conflict so that you
know they're hurting now they had to intervene to stop the
ruble from dropping No, no, I didn't know that either. That's
the front page today the financial yesterday actually
Financial Times
I gotta subscribe to the financial I'm telling you
man they got some good stuff. They're paying attention to
things like oh, I don't know finance.
You mean as opposed to the Wall Street Journal with all its
features? Christmas buying guides?
Exactly. Isn't that isn't that a Murdoch property now though the
Wall Street Journal
Yeah, but it was turning into Christmas buying guides way
before it's not so I'm gonna put together a Christmas buying
guide for the blog
Oh of gadgets or just stuff in general? Yeah, well, mostly
gadgets Yeah, you know, you'll you know attachable hard disk
for Christmas. It'd be cool. You know, we
were we have a new client was at Brookstone is that the kind of
like the
redstone be made to get and gizmos.
Yeah, like kind of like the outdoorsy, sharper image is what
I always call it, right. sharper and sharper image went broke.
Yeah, but Brookstone didn't know Brookstone
is got a lot of cool stuff. They may have a lot like a lot of
little tools. And this, it's like I consider that the less
flashy. Yeah,
it's high. It's high end kind of utility stuff like you know,
yeah, it's
very functional. Yeah, Barbecue,
barbecue thermometers, all that really important stuff here.
scraper, automatic grill scraper, and they always have a
Roomba are one of those cleaning robots?
Yeah, Roomba. So we'll have those, by the way, love them.
Really, I've considered getting one. But I always thought it
would probably be fun like the first 20 times and then it would
break or I'd step on it or it wouldn't work.
For everyone I know that has one they just served. They just love
them. Really? Oh, this is a rug sweepers. I mean, it doesn't
doesn't really do much me just, you know, it's kind of an
expensive rub rug sweeper.
If it doesn't clean?
Well, I mean, what damage cleaning can it do? That thing
is only so big. They have have they have the one that's kind of
intriguing to me is the one that washes the floor. And I'm kind
of tempted to get one myself, my floors are always so dirty.
They actually contacted me remember, they came out with a
new model maybe a year ago or a year and a half ago. That was at
the floor washer. It might be either that it was the upgrade
of the original Roomba. And they contacted me and said, hey, you
know, this is really cool. And you know, you've talked about on
your show. I'm like, Yeah, send me one. I'll talk about it.
Well, you know, you have to pay for it. Yeah. You don't know how
it works like
a sales pitch. You should be target. You should be giving us
free publicity. Because we're so polite and ad Yeah, in fact,
even given you on it's cheaper than an ad. What are you doing?
What a bunch of Yeah, well, that's Yeah, well, that's the
problem. Oh, that's gonna be the news this week. So it's
perfectly timed. Of course on the ninth. Everyone knew I knew
iPods come out. So the entire world via the whole world press
will be consumed with new iPods. And the next day they turn the
frickin. They flip the switch on the on the supercollider the
Large Hadron Collider in Geneva.
You think there's a connection? Of course. I mean, of course.
There's no connection.
I like the idea though. Apple is in cahoots with the black hole
manufacturer. Yeah,
well, the data is good. It's the 10th day of the ninth month of
the eighth year of the millennium.
They're actually two lawsuits. One American lawsuit, one
European lawsuit, they tried to stop it. What the hell yeah.
Yeah. And I don't know why. Because the black hole thing.
And because because there's not enough information. They don't
really know, these suits claim there was enough information
about what could really happen and they sued under the European
Human Rights laws. That you know, you have the right to not
being hurt by the Luddites. You have the right to not being hurt
by Adams colliding at lightspeed. There's some
protocol in the Lisbon Treaty about that. That was actually
interesting that Sarkozy, the French president, and current,
of course, they have the presidency of the European
Union. He used the Georgia conflict to pimp out the Lisbon
Treaty. He and in this article that I was reading, he said,
Well, you know, we really need the Lisbon Treaty. So we don't,
you know, can stand as a stronger front against you know,
big aggressors, and you know, he's really trying to turn that
it's it seems like all of this was so coordinated, but the only
thing that messed up is they didn't get to read the Lisbon
Treaty through because then they would have had their European
army. And everything else was genius, just went ahead as
planned. And Europe is trying to catch up, but they can't because
they don't have all the votes in for this European Year. What is
it? United States of Europe
plan.
It's just a disaster waiting to happen.
It's good mo nation, my friend. That's what it is.
The European army that's a winner. Well, an Ireland was
lying, you know, that Russia and the Europeans of Russia, I can
see why Russia is getting a little freaky. They're going to
have to rearm and then they you know, they're gonna have the
European army and we're gonna be sitting back here we're going to
kind of pull out going to be kind of laughing under our
breaths and just set for the fact of the mess. It's going to
end up creating. But we should be or actually we'll probably be
egging them on. Come on you guy how you gonna let Russia
probably change Cheney was just not just in Georgia. He was in
the Ukraine. He's, you know, they're they're building this
pipeline that surpasses Russia. A billion dollars bypasses
bypasses, I'm sorry. Yes. A billion dollars is being pledged
which of course is all about arms. So yeah, well, we'll give
you a billion dollars, which basically a big credit, the
credit card good at Halliburton, and, you know, Boeing
must be used by 30. Oh,
it's like a gift certificate. Only oops, you have the after
pay interest on it. Well, you know, we'll we'll don't read
this. Don't read the fine print about defaulting. And yeah,
that's totally I mean chaining with Cheney, the Uber mice. drew
himself went there. And that's, that's pretty spectacular.
That's funny because you know, we didn't get much reports about
that here because we had the conventions going on.
preoccupied.
Exactly. Exactly. We're talking about moose hunting and whose
baby who wears Baby Jane. Yeah. And by the way, what kind of
name is trig? They got a bunch of wack will well hold on a
second, hold on a second. Excuse me. Excuse me. My sister's name
is willow,
willow and Bristol. I mean, come on. These are hippie names.
We have Adam Tiffany and Willow.
Well, Adam, is it like a normal name? No,
it's not. I got exactly. And I got mastered tested to death as
a child. I was afraid like, my name is Adam. All right.
polars II, where's Eve? Oh,
there those jumble.
But trig and triggers a little out there.
Trig. What does that mean? Is it going to be a mathematic?
Definite trig? Like in trigger? Trigonometry? Yeah, it could be.
Yeah.
But yeah, so that's what was so while you were watching the
greatest show on earth. Meanwhile, behind the scenes,
Cheney was was stirring up trouble cutting deals. Well,
that's what this whole NATO thing is about. You know, it's,
it's not about well, yeah, of course, it's, you know, if
you're attacked, and we'll all come to the rescue. But it's
obviously about you know, here's the weapons we're going to sell
you.
We're not coming to anybody's rescue. Well, that's the joke of
it. We're not gonna go into a war with Russia over one of
these little two bit countries that, you know, borders, Turkey.
We're just gonna make a lot of noise about it. Yeah, wow, I
think was shut down, you know, you just gotta back off.
Well, it's all about the pipelines.
That's what it looks like. But the fact of the matter is
setting up this little conflagration which is going to
take place because the Europeans have got to form this big giant,
you know, one big country with their own big army is, you know,
you can just see, it's asking for trouble. The Russians don't
like this idea.
They don't like it. Of course, they don't like it. But you
know, so typical, and
we have our own hemisphere. So we don't get you know, we'll we
can we just
so it's really big in the news now about what's going on in
Georgia, you know, because, again, there is actually some
good reporting going on. Proof now and they have pictures
everywhere of US military training, the Georgian commandos
months before the attack to Virginia based, not Blackwater,
but Blackwater, like company's been in there for the past year.
Now, it's pretty clear that this was all set up. And here's the
best part. So you know, there was rumour of Israeli jets being
positioned on one of the two other airfields besides the
George W. Bush airport or whatever it is. So a friend of
mine he actually trained with with a lot of those guys who are
who do those types of missions. He says he hasn't he hasn't been
able to reach him for like, six weeks. Now. Really? Yeah. So he
thinks he's convinced something's gonna happen. Well,
I was up. Yeah. Well, I told you about the Dutch operatives
right. Didn't didn't we talked about that last week. We must do
it again. It was the Dutch Secret Service had it leaked out
and made the front page of the paper they pulled back some
secret operatives from Iran. lickety split because they heard
that an attack was imminent. And so this leaked out into the
newspaper and that actually did that did make some international
headlines here and there
can attack that this was before the Russian thing No, this is
last week. Oh, this is now what's happening now Yeah, their
attack Well no, this
would be an attack on Iran. The operatives were in Iran. Oh,
okay. All right trying to fall
okay so put it all together you've got Israeli jets You know
guys
with a guy that I said they were not going to bomb Iran and he
says as a done deal I said I don't think so. I I think the
Israelis might do it but we're not going
well you know that that was that was the story is that the
Israelis would do it with with us markings painted on and then
they you know, like water paint and then they come back into the
base in Georgia and then wash them off and it would be a big
mystery just to get your hello you're bombed as shit but you
don't know who did it
so there's really bombers are going to come out of Georgia to
bomb the bomber and yeah, that's the story. If I'm not mistaken,
do they have to what do they have to fly over to make this
work? Yeah. I looked at George's up against Turkey. Bottom in the
middle of nowhere
Now hold on a second because don't they have to go over the
Azerbaijan? Or as maybe, or maybe even the Ukraine?
No, Ukraine is north of them.
I'm bringing up Google Earth. We should probably fuck with the
connection, but it's worth it.
I do this all the time. I mean, how, how cool is it to have
Google Earth man, you can just see all this shit. And you
understand that so much better. People should do that, you know?
Go go go look at Georgia on Google Earth and surf around and
look at some of these places. And then when you see it on the
news, you'll be like, Okay, I get it.
Ya know, people need to do their geography, especially in the
United States. It's almost embarrassing how people don't
have a clue about anything. I mean, it's almost like pathetic.
Because who we got here? Yeah, I'm zooming in. Georgia is down.
Okay. Yeah, the attic over Azerbaijan or they could shoot
over part of notice and that's not gonna work. I won't go over
Azerbaijan. And that's its jour it's Georgia, Azerbaijan,
Azerbaijan and Iran is right there. So it's the next country
over so they have the one yeah, this here
yeah, they can go straight from they don't they can they could
go over Armenia be a little shorter. But Azerbaijan looks
like a good route.
And then there's a you know if they can get actually if they
could get we can't quite if they could go over Azure by John and
hit that the body of water there what is that the Caspian is the
Caspian Sea. And then they can come out of the Caspian Sea and
Tehran is right there at the bottom and they could just bomb
the crap out of it. And then come back and if they're gonna
bomb the facilities, where are those facilities? Do we No,
no, no, don't is if you go from Tbilisi to Tehran it's 550 Miles
Well, it's a no brainer so that's that's why they're
stationed there. Right so I do think they're gonna hit
coming out Israel they have to go over too many things and
things
rack Exactly.
That's why Yeah, that's interesting. But they're not
going to they're not going to hit they're not going to nuke
there's a big difference.
Yeah, no, they're gonna just probably do bunker busters
because the nukes don't work
you are aware of this right?
Tell me
it promised not to laugh
All right, go. Oh, I know what you do you get the nukes don't
work right. The nukes don't work.
Up to October 14 That's coming
at that was the 18th
All right. By the Asians, you'll know all about it. Don't worry.
There's nothing's gonna happen by the way. So we followed up on
your flying saucer thing and there's a bunch of references
all over the internet, including some crazy people that have
posted YouTube videos talking about this thing is very
unclear. This it says you know, over Alabama in the southern
hemisphere.
Well, I there's I mean, the Alabama thing wasn't clear to me
either.
It may not be Alabama maybe the name of the of the vessel. Well,
it
could be the name of the vessel. There's also isn't there a space
station and that space station? Yeah, isn't there? Don't we have
a Alabama?
That that I know of? Yeah, we have. We have something we have.
Anyway, so this this flying saucer that you clicked you know
that your hold on a second?
I didn't say anything. Oh, you mean the ship that's coming?
Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, on
the 14th of October it has to be over the southern hemisphere.
Some places supposed to hang around for a while? Uh huh.
According to all the reports that you get from all these
crackpots, yeah, so it's not going to happen here now. What
are they going to say? What are they going to say all these
people when nothing comes of it?
Oh, well. Oh, well.
I want to hear it. I think it's gonna be some good stories about
why it didn't have well you weren't ready or some bullshit
no, I
you know, this is a I've been following this stuff for a while
this is this is a pretty strong message that's that's common. So
I I expect something to happen let's turn it around. Let's say
something does appear. What are you going to say?
Oh, it's not gonna I'm not even considering it.
Okay, well, all right. There you go.
Me if something appeared I would go wow, that's that'd be my
reaction.
How do I spell that? Is that ghr MP F.
Well, who knew? So, okay, I'm looking back in the map again.
So I'm thinking with Darat would be, I think over the Caspian
customers
Of course, they gotta go out over the Caspian Sea and then
come down.
Right? Because for one thing, you can fly low and the radar
signatures are going to be minimal and the water is going
to soak up a lot of the radar. And yeah, it's perfect.
But how much does it suck? I mean, this is so fucking stupid.
Well, we're not, you know, why me?
What do you know? There's absolutely no reason to do it.
Well, we don't know that they're actually going to do it and
maybe an exercise.
Just like the Armada that is now on the Black Sea for an
exercise.
To me. I mean, that's disconcerting that they pulled
the Dutch secret police out of the area, but are the Dutch
intelligence whatever they call themselves. How many guys are in
Dutch intelligence? Both of them been pulled out
as one guy to carry the magnifying glass and
no, well, there's lots of jokes like that.
About You know, the Dutch Air Force that they weren't they
were grounded. recently. They weren't on a single plane could
fly. Yeah, they ran out of coal.
These the jokes we make about our armed forces. Yeah. Cool.
It's cute.
All right. Yeah. I mean, my you've heard these jokes. I
mean, we do this with the Belgians all the time. It's
like, well, you know, the Belgian army. They couldn't go
to battle because no one could find the bullet. Yeah.
Yeah. The old the old one bullet gag is Yeah, exactly. So Okay,
what else is going on that we don't know about over here in
the USA of a because we're more concerned about Sarah Palin,
moose hunting.
I don't know. Let's talk about Sarah Palin for a little bit.
I'm still totally enchanted by her.
So the V p ILF site.com vpif.com. Is like
buzzin Yeah. That was a smart move by that guy.
I have to bring it up. Now. I haven't subscribed to it yet.
But yeah, it is good. But you know, there's no there's no like
really sexy pictures of her anywhere. I photoshopped. Yeah,
I know. I keep waiting for something to pop up.
There was a good article in some I was gonna blog about it. I
realised there's a little too. Too much to fake as it were. It
was a bunch of Fashion Designers discussing the three women in
the campaign. Cindy McCain, Michelle Obama and Sarah. Yeah,
and I want to talked about how the way she dresses down and
makes a point of it and doesn't want to put on errors. Or dress
too sexy. She actually dresses like, you know, the kind of the,
the purpose dresses like midwesterner. Although she
probably you know, and they say the only thing that she can do
to improve her. She should probably ditch the glasses. They
all say
No, I like it. It has oh, here's a funny t shirt. Sarah Palin
babe Abraham Lincoln.
Oh, it's so funny. Yeah, it did catch Karl Rove a couple times
on Fox News man he's like He is the wizard isn't he he's Kaiser
Carl love that guy Heiser
so much until it listening to him dissecting he's a
deconstructionist is breaks which I admire because he'll
take apart he did a thing on the speech, which I have I taped it
because my son has become kind of a fan of his two fours
deconstruction ability but he took apart I think it was McCain
speech and he did it he says he he did 12 paragraphs about this
and three paragraphs about they had the whole thing broken down
by paragraphs which I don't know how you can do on a speech but I
guess you can and and then he talked about what he taught what
points he hit when he hit him and what what order hit him in
and how literally did this and how much more he did that
indicating that they're going to go in such in such a direction.
And it was quite it was it was it was interesting. He's very
he's very calculating.
Hey, I'm looking at the at the drop site. Have you looked at
that? Not today. Okay, drop that IO slash no agenda. And there's
a San Francisco Union's tax. A health surcharge on food. Have
you heard about this? No. You should they scan it here there's
looks like it's a it's a check for one vegetarian spring roll
one Japanese curry shrimp stir fry. Jen, there's regular tax on
it. And then there's a health surcharge of 70 cents. What is
that? I support the new union contract which brings better
health and welfare benefits. pay increases for all union workers.
These new and better benefits will increase our cost of doing
business by more than $10,000 a month beginning September 2008,
more than $200,000 over the whole year 2009. To partially
recover these additional costs, we are charging a three and a
half percent health and welfare surcharge on every customer
receipt. This surcharge is already being implemented by
most reputable restaurants in San Francisco to help them stay
afloat in these difficult times. Wow. So in a hotel, you're going
to get your food bill, your tax bill, your health surcharge,
your gratuity is going to be half the money it's just gonna
be in in Phantom shit.
Yeah. Well, the problem is that I when I'm looking at it, it's
the half the it's almost about a third of what the taxes are more
is that actually is more. It looks like about 40% of the tax.
I mean, looks at wherever the tax is. Another 40% 40% of that
would be the health surcharge. It should be a flat fee. It
shouldn't be a floating fee, which shouldn't be a percentage,
because they're not plant paying the workers on a on a on a
floating basis as a flat difference. Right. Really?
I don't know. I have no idea.
Yeah, to look into it.
That's pretty wacky, though.
So you see the new Bill Gates Vista commercial? Yeah.
Jerry Seinfeld? Yeah, it was like, I think actually, did you
write that? That you? You were wrong? From MarketWatch. Yeah,
that you? You said you wrote that you were wrong about your
prediction. But it was yeah,
it was wrong. It was actually it was just gonna severely suck and
really, really succinct. I haven't or be, you know, beyond
that, which I was stunned out that it was
it was, it was quite bad.
And pointless. Well, I mean, I think it's an embarrassment to
the company to have to have that ad out there. Even though
there's a bunch of people that have written comments. Oh, I
think it's cute. It humanises Bill Gates. What are you talking
about? Microsoft
is that's a an enterprise company. You know that that's
where they make their money. They shouldn't be. This is dumb.
It's like it's like, it's almost like an ego trip for gates.
I don't believe that, you know, it's almost was what kind of an
ego driven and he humiliates himself with that clown card,
which I actually have posted on the blog.
No, it's got to be some kind of ego trip. It is. I mean,
what does he need? He doesn't need it. Gates is not the type
of person that needs an ego trip.
I don't know him personally, but doing this kind of stuff. You
know, it's it's not like as if this was the first time he'd
ever broken through the kind of genius boy while remember, you
know, we're a lot closer to perhaps what he is like and what
he does and what he stands for, than most people who are going
to see this commercial. I mean, who is it? Who is it intended
for? Is it intended for the general population? Who is going
to make a choice between Windows or Mac? I mean, is that what
this is about? And then it's just just spinning wheels. It's
unnecessary and stupid. He had the the cute little video that
he had with Ballmer, where they're driving around, you
know, with a, with a Casio song, the tu tu tu tu tu tu. Remember
that one? Yeah. Yeah. So he already did his kind of like,
goofy thing. And he's done some goofy things throughout his
tenure at Microsoft. And he's not even at Microsoft anymore.
Isn't he gone?
Yeah, right. That's what I keep saying every time he keeps
cropping up, they would do they ran all these retirement stories
about him for a good month before he was quote, unquote,
retired. Well, I can make can stay retired. I mean, what was
the point of all these media people falling all over
themselves or writing stories about Bill Gates his retirement
End of an Era blah, blah, blah, blah. And meanwhile, he's still
there.
Yeah. Yeah,
I don't know. But it wasn't funny. And the story was, it was
embedded was like a toe curling, you know, just like, just
embarrassing.
This looks like Seinfeld's faxed his performance in.
Well, you got to wonder about him and the relationship between
him and I was the guy you'd like so much. I think is probably the
real, the real brains behind the Seinfeld series. What's his
name? You watch your show? Larry David, Larry David. Yeah.
I actually find Larry David. I liked Larry David. I know hard
to deal with them. Oh, no. I
thought you'd like to show to
lightly I like it. Certain ones of the show. I mean, certain
there are certain episodes like the dead. I think he had some of
the dead relatives show was good. I mean, he has
occasionally but it makes the problem with the show is it's
not really written. It's ad libbed. It's a throw. It's like
our show. You know, if you don't like listening to guys, just go
you know, talk about whatever they feel like.
You are definitely not going to be diggin this show.
But That's kind of what his show is like, and I find it. It's
lack of structure to be bothersome. Yeah. But I like
him. I mean, I know he's the genius behind the Seinfeld show.
Well, that's what that's what I mean, I think that, you know,
Seinfeld, although he had, you know, look, he has a certain
type of humour stand up as a certain you'll observational
humour, things that make you go hmm. Which is you know, and I
think that's what he's really good at writing, but then coming
to the basically a commercial about nothing, because I think
that's what they're, you know, that's what they're going for. I
can just hear the phone call, you know, yeah, let's do a
commercial about nothing. But the payoff, it'll be about
VISTA. And I'll shake my booty.
Oh, they never had a logo for VISTA. They never show what the
commercials about. It was just like a typical, you know, if
there was a commercial for anything. It was a commercial
for vaporware, you know, or false promises. Or, you know,
very end there's a there's a Microsoft logo isn't there? I
thought that it went to
Microsoft logo at the end, right? It not only that, but
it's a small one.
Right? So it's, it's just a brand thing. Did the stock move?
Did anything happen? I doubt it. But who knows? Who knows, maybe
it should have tanked.
I didn't say move up or up or down. I didn't move.
I'd be shy be heading for, as I like to say, I'd be heading for
the exits.
Oh my god, that it totally is weird.
I agree.
Well, it's definitely into the category of what are they
thinking? Yeah. Which actually shocked me, I thought they would
at least have something that was, you know, promoting a
product or selling something.
There's one thing I wanted to say about a continuing theme on
twit that I heard came up again last week. And I hope one day
I'll be invited onto the show. So I can actually, you know,
talk about it as well. How do these guys and this is about the
bandwidth metering and I'm completely with you on just
metre, it doesn't mean that it has to be a bazillion dollars,
you know, it should be able to be metered in a in a reasonable,
you know, reasonable cost. But the there's such a huge
misunderstanding, I think there's enough smart people on
that conversation, he's time this comes up, that it is not
free. The amount the speed, and the amount is it's not the same
thing. So you know, when you have people downloading 50
gigabytes of data of movies or whatever, on a daily basis, at a
certain point, you have to get a bigger router. You know, this
costs real money, these millions and millions of dollars for
these big machines that sit there at at these exchanges and
that pass off traffic to an ISPs members, how come that is so
poorly understood by that group.
It's baffling. But not only that, but every time I bring it
up, I get a slew of hate mail. And Twitter's from people saying
Eric and you're full of crap. It you know, and just like I
basically even though I maintain this position, but I've been, as
I mentioned, I think on a cranky geeks recently, I've been
maintaining the same position for the last decade. And this is
not a new argument with me. Right. But nobody wants to you
know, I mean, it's a foregone conclusion that the one thing
that's changing is at least people are agreeing that's
probably going to happen someday, whether we like it or
not, right, that we're gonna have to meet or the net, but ya
know, that there's two assumptions that seem to be
underlying the argument against it. One, if you meet her the
net, your bill is gonna go skyrocket?
Well, let's see. But that's that's my assumption, you're
gonna go down? Absolutely. Because finally, you'll just be
paying for what you're really using what people I mean, John,
you and I were there. In the early days, when, you know,
knocks would get filled up and transit lines, were bursting at
the seams and the whole fucking thing came to a crawl, the whole
net would slow down. And this was built with Okay, granted,
all these telcos got subsidised and they stole that money and
didn't actually build out the infrastructure properly. And
just throw it into marketing of free for all come at all you can
eat mean, yeah, a lot, a lot one wrong there. But it does
actually cost money. If people are consuming more bandwidth.
It's not the speed or the soul or the perceived size of the
pipe. That's the real deal that that's not what it's coming
from. It's all these Exchange, or they're less and less now.
But as the exchanges, the peering agreements between them,
the the cost of transit where you don't have a pairing
agreement, that's real money that has to be paid there. And
it's for equipment, you know, big, big big routers, switches,
big machines, I've built a knock. I know what goes into
this, and I'm just astounded at this conversation that comes up
every month at least once.
Yeah, well, the other thing is, of course, you can also have you
pass traffic through the big giant sites like may Easter Mae
West to big government sites, you actually have to pay to go
in and out and you have to pay by the bid.
Yes, yeah, hell yeah. But I can already predict what's going to
happen. I mean, it's so clear to me that the big ISPs, the big
networks, they're going to start acquiring content into their
networks, it'll be available outside, but even just acquiring
so if you have popular content, for them to get that content,
there's a cost, it may not always be an actual, out of
pocket cost. It can be in in a peering agreement, or some other
kind of agreement that you know, set up between networks, but
eventually, it's just going to be cheaper to them, without even
charging their customers anything to just bring it inside
their network or expand their network and make that big,
right? I don't see that happening across the board. But
they're just going to have to go to that model. So they're gonna
start acquiring these big, you know, big content aggregators,
or providers, or wherever servers, are they, I think
they're going to want them inside their networks. Now, will
they actually know what to do with them? Probably not. Other
than Hey, it's at least it's saving us money because it's
gonna have to come from both ends. It can't just come from
the customers
but some point IPTV I mean, it's like you know, I It's like
internet telephony. Well,
you brought this up and you know, Comcast already
essentially does IPTV I mean, a Comcast cable box is not
receiving an analogue signal is receiving a digital signal so
it's already IPTV
right but that's the the cable I'm not even I'm not sure that's
true. But but the point is, is that people like Comcast will
have a selection of what will amount to IPTV television that
they can meet or in you know, I'm not metered the IPTV stuff
but they can they can segment off like the premium stuff so
you can you know, order HBO movie or whatever. In fact, they
have all this pay per view crap, now, all over the place,
but he's got it and that's that's really just interface and
it's the same thing, you know,
but But true IPTV it seems to me is an open network. Yeah, you
can subscribe to all those channels from your Comcast.
Well, you should be able to also go to Sweden,
but isn't isn't isn't IPTV, then exactly what MVNO is doing,
aren't we in essence than an IPTV provider?
Well, I think everybody who sends stuff over the net is an
IPTV provider but that but you're but this stuff is that
media is doing is designed to be looked at on a computer, it's
not designed to be looked at it on a TV, which is what the TV is
in right PTV. Correct. And that's what I'm talking about
when
we're I think that that will never actually work, it will,
and it was going to happen is going to be I'm going to be able
to sit here, in fact, I think is not that far from being
implemented. But actually, in Asia, it's already implemented.
But I should be able to sit here, I should be the same
Swedish. And I moved to San Francisco, and I want to keep
watching my channels in Sweden, I should be able to go on the
computer and then say, I want to subscribe to you know, whatever
channels the Swedes have, and and it should be able to go and
it should be able to open up a connection and then I should be
able to watch it on my regular television set. Just as I was in
school. You don't have
a technically Yeah, but where's the business model? There's,
there's no, no way to do sales on that. So you have
to pay for it. Yeah, you have to pay for it. Right. So
what So this is, thank you very much. So to see the Swedish Chef
cooking show, which of course, is the only thing of any value
you're gonna get, for God's sake, anything of any value
you're gonna get from this wonderful IPTV setup you have in
your living room, you're gonna have to wind up paying, you
know, 299 to watch an episode. And we know that's not going to
work. It's Oh, it'll work. But it's not going to sustain the
production necessary to create that type of programming.
I'm not convinced to that. And I'll tell you why. And a friend
of mine, who I've used as the model for discussion about
Georgia, who are from Russia, and actually from Georgia, I
would go over their house once in a while and they have the
Dish Network like I do, they get the same dish and everything and
they're already paying, that's where they're paying for it. So
that's done. So they're the business model is clear. That's
the whole problem. But that's because you're paying for the
hardware. So
how they're paying I don't know the hardware is free. It's the
monthly charge. That's
for the whole setup. So you're paying a subscription fee. So
the way it works is the Swedish company is getting paid a
monthly fee from the Dish Network. And the Dish Network
goes and tries to sell that to their customers. When you're
talking IPTV I just don't see that model, John, I don't see
enough revenue to actually create that kind of product and
to be able to create five to eight minutes of An online
episodic show, it's
it's so hard to watch it, but it's a job already produced.
It's local television from Stockholm.
Okay, so then what centrally is like humbling box? How many
gigs? Is that going to be? To watch that? In good definition?
You probably want HD why the hell not? And we're gonna go
there eventually in your scenario. So how many? How many
gigs is that going to be?
See, HD half hour should be around seven gigs,
seven gigs, right? So if these guys at this at this Swedish
state run television are going to send that to you, it's
probably going to cost them a couple bucks and transfer cost.
I'll pay two bucks.
It's not going to be enough.
It's gotta be a no, do
you know what normal CDN prices are? Before you get into huge
volume, we're in huge volume, we've driven that shit down to a
nice, nice level, which is, I mean, actually a very good
level. It's so good. I'm not even allowed to talk about it,
according to our contract. But most people if they can get
below 40 cents a gigabyte, they're doing really good. So
you're talking three bucks right there. Just to send it out.
Exactly.
Well, here's another thing that's going on. I was talking
to the guy who was responsible for I have to get his name,
again, is famous internet architect who's actually
responsible for all the congestion algorithms that we
use. Okay. He says that there's a model out there that they're
working on, it works as follows. He said, He says there's no
reasons right now the problem which you describe, adequately,
is not workable. In other words, why should me the provider of
the of the 27 gigabytes of content have to send and say we
have two customers, John and Adam, why do I have to send a
copy to you write on a request and then send another copy,
right, you're
about you're about, you're about to invent peer to peer
networking and the proxy scheme, because I've looked at all of
this. That's exactly what all these huge proxy server ideas
were about, and they just never came to fruition. It's never
really happened. But you're absolutely right, what should
happen is, the content from the Swedish Chef should be sent over
to Comcast, and Comcast stores that there and puts it into it,
this is what they're working on. This is how this is the only way
it's going to work in their model. I'm not saying I love it,
but the only way they know how to do business. And they're
going to start acquiring that and presenting it to you in a
different way, in their own way. Because it can't actually and
it's not even a copyright thing. It's just an economics thing.
And by the way, these guys, I don't know if they still do. But
in the early days of the web man proxy servers, who remember how
much trouble they were, because everyone had him to try and cut
down on bandwidth. Yeah, they didn't work. And and you know,
you'd wait and then you'd have to call it Hey, man, can you
blow out the proxy? Because I got to refresh this page for
presentation.
Yeah, we actually have the some of the kits, like, it's like
that WordPress cache that we play around with, you have to do
use it once in a while, because you get too many hits and having
to redesign it, having to send out a page on every request of
all these. It'd be better if you just had this one thing, boom,
boom, boom. So anyway, I know there's there. Yeah. Well,
that's because yeah, there's there's problems. I'm not saying
I mean, if if IPTV was a no brainer, we'd be getting IPTV.
No, but the thing is, John, I'm telling you, it's it, not only
is it a no brainer, it's a no non starter. It's not about the
technology, we've got the technology, we've got the
technology for the programme, and we've got the programming,
it's there to there is no way to connect all those bits into a
viable business model at scale. Right. So that you can actually
sustain that type of programming. Because you know,
and even if it's if it's an additional just sending it out,
is you know that that's a logistical nightmare.
Well, you yourself just said Comcast is doing that already.
Well, that will I know, I said, I think that they're probably
still doing some proxying. But I don't know if they do it on a
large files. In fact, I don't know if that's done anymore at
all, because it may just be prohibitive. I don't know, maybe
the amount of data is too productive, too prohibitive to
even set up proxy servers. For the for the media assets that
we're downloading these days. It's huge.
We're gonna have a bunch of people writing in well, yeah, by
the way, please.
For the hate mail, you're writing to me right now, this is
not like I actually want it to be this way. I'm just saying
this is what I see happening. You know, and maybe we'll even
get to a scenario where it'll be like, you know, very analogous
to the to the phone providers where you're going to get you if
you hook Up to a certain network, you'll get a certain
package and it'll come with the they're gonna do it, they're
gonna do the content packages you watch. It's just not
sustainable for them anymore.
All I know is that there's gonna be a way of my like the, like
the woman who watches Russian television. They get like 10
channels off the dish, and they have a different menu. I don't
know. I mean, it's I'm looking at this going, Wow, this is not
even doesn't even look like my work that but
but think of how beautiful that distribution is. It's one
uplink. And everyone can download it basically, from the
satellite. It's not it's a very different type of distribution
mechanism. It's also not cheap, by the way to sustain that, but
it's doable. At least it's, you know, there's no real, I don't
think there's well, you run out of channels. So there is a set
amount of channels you can utilise there is a bandwidth
issue. But it's for the total offering and not incremental,
per, per new audience member. That's really what it's about
this, this is the thing that people really don't see. And I
think Google will do it, too. I think Google is totally gonna go
into the content business, which is going to really mess with
their current business model. But they're going to figure it
out. And I think they probably have enough money to do that.
But maybe they'll do it during this recession, that they're
gonna get into content, I'm sure of it. Because they've got the
distribution, they've got a fantastic distribution
mechanism.
Well, I don't have any doubt they're going to door that I
know they're thinking about it. But you know, the problem is
they have to go look at Yahoo, who's been toying with content
for 20 years. And you know, they it's just a joke.
I think even if they could, they could figure out how to get the
Swedish cooking show. Effective cost effectively to people, I
think even that will make them the winner. They don't even have
to have a business model. Just make it cheaper to actually
distributed. They're all going to go already going to win. Now,
what are you doing?
I'm chewing on pistachios. Alright, enough of this. All
right. I'm gonna have to rethink the whole thing about Hillary
Clinton.
She's dropped off the radar.
Yeah, because she's gonna do what she has in the background
to sink Obama.
You think she's really doing that?
I don't know. What do you think? Tell me what's your chances of
ever becoming the president united states if Obama wins?
Hillary Clinton? Yeah. No, the only chance of her becoming
president of the United States? Well, there's no chance
Actually, no, there's
one long shot chance
with one long shot chances. Obama is eliminated before the
before the general election, which would make her the I think
the default
candidate, he's that's not going to happen. Just
the only scenario I can see.
Well, the other scenario is that a McCain wins. And he's a one
term president, and she runs in 2012. And then she's, you know,
get the job.
Possible. Possible.
But if if, if Obama wins, he's going to whether he does a
crappy job or a good job doesn't make any difference, because
he's going to be the selected. He's going to be the candidate
in 2012. I mean, the last time the Democrats had the situation
when Jimmy Carter was in for one term, and then he came when he
came to the convention, Ted Kennedy tried to bump them off
the ticket the way Hillary would have to do with Obama, because
he was doing such a crappy job. And it was not effective. He
still didn't get on, and they ran Carter again. And he lost a
Reagan, and that's what you know, would show Hillary know,
she's out, you know, at least eight years from today. And
she's not going to get in and 20, you know, 16, or whatever
the next one is after that. So she has to submarine Obama's
campaign if she wants to be president, if she doesn't want
to be president, which seems unlikely that she'll help him
but she's like, not going to help him.
I can't believe we're already talking about the 2012 election.
I might
as well
2008 yet. Man, that's
because it's gonna get interesting. Now. We got two
months of dirty politics ahead of us. It's gonna be really, I
think it's gonna be just a lot of mudslinging. And a couple of
debates. I think there's three debates scheduled, maybe for
Wally one for the Vice President, which will be the one
that packs them in. Because everyone wants to see, you know,
if this woman can, you know, and Joe Biden can have a fight,
because it'd be funny. Well, and
I want to interrupt you, so I totally agree. And I think but I
think it's being orchestrated for different reasons. I think
we are going to see a great two months it's going to be
fantastic television, there's going to be a lot of cat
fighting and one liners and some awesome we know that McCain has
some writers now so we can expect some and surely some of
that stuff that Palin had was written I mean, it was coming On
the difference between pit bull and a hockey mom lipstick, I
mean, great lines. And I think we're just going to have a lot
more of that because at all cost. We do not want to be
looking at Wall Street or any there's no warships over here in
the Black Sea just keep on enjoying the show folks. Just
keep on one lucky name that Sarah Palin cute everybody Hey.
Yeah, well, there's obviously elements of that or she
meanwhile Cheney and Bush get to be stirring up trouble.
They didn't even show up man Bush Bush calls and he doesn't
fucking video conference. And Colin Powell didn't show up. And
Cheney didn't show up. Of course, he was, you know, out
there make cutting deals in Georgia and messing with Putin's
head.
That's what they
do. The claim was that they didn't show because they weren't
welcome. But you might be right, actually maybe more sinister
than that.
Oh, it has to be I mean, those guys they love flaunting their
flaunting their stuff,
you know, and that now you know, with with the distraction of the
convention, they can go off and
do anything. They can do anything. Well, you know, well,
I won't get into that. But what? Well, you know, the whole
hurricane thing.
Oh, the hurricane was a Yeah, well, that was laughable.
They started that man. They
fired up that hardening up there in Alaska. He comes out and he
makes the announcement that this is going to be the storm of the
century worse than Katrina evacuate in they evacuate the
whole place. Yeah. And see how good we don't actuate anybody
see how
good we done it? We don't real good. And it's all Blackwater
John. There was all Blackwater guys down there doing the
evacuation.
Is that right?
Someone sent me an email I should see if I can hold on it
someone sent me an awesome
oh, that means it was a evacuated people that were
putting bugs in their house. How the
hell knows.
That'd be pretty funny. No, place you live in New Orleans.
Check your house have a check for listening devices.
They were placing thermite. Yeah, right. So they get blown.
Down. That's right. That's right, baby.
That'd be a Tec seven group. They're working their overtime.
Hold on a second. I got all your houses have been rigged for to
be blown up. Here it is.
Okay. So here's this email from this Michael guy. And I'm gonna
forward this to you because it's really too long. And he actually
he responds to the LA Times photo of the Blackwater guy
leaving the sign at the scene of the medical marijuana bust.
Remember that? Vaguely. Yeah, well, so Well, it was a it was a
bust on a medical marijuana shop. And the New York Times had
a whole bunch of pictures and one was a picture of a guy with
a black water shirt, you know, armed and so this guy, he's, you
know, he I'll just send it to you. Hold on. We can't even talk
about this whole thing. You just gotta read this. You won't
believe it. He says these guys are everywhere.
Everyone's good. It's a good business to be in.
And then there's I keep reading about do you hear about this
gulf stream that crass? The belong to the CIA? And it had
three and a half tonnes of cocaine on it? No.
There's some good stories out there, man.
Yes, but let's talk about Sarah Palin. Please don't notice.
Please, please shoots guns.
There's no coke on this Learjet please pass on by. Yeah, it's
really true is
really, really true. was sent me the link
by just saying it's an email. I just sent you the whole email.
It's no it's like a personal thing. He wrote up this whole
story.
For example, in Iraq when the his company is unloading
shipments at military sites that people who offload and offload
or manage supplies as well as their disbursements to the
troops are not US military personnel. These are a bunch of
redneck KBR contractors who deliberately lose steel and
overbill the military Oh, he goes on to this whole
overbilling thing too.
As crazy as crazy we're being ripped off by these guys.
Of course. So do you do you find it interesting I don't know that
was ever pointed out that Blackwater is actually named
after I like to find out when they name their company, because
it seems to be connected to the you know, the whitewater
scandal. So you have whitewater Blackwater. I mean, it's just
like it's just it's a pun.
I think there was a different there's a different reason why
it's called Blackwater. I think I looked that up once. It lists
something else.
I love it when you're typing away there.
was eating pistachios I guess it credit is one.
Well, that's interesting. blackwater.com water.com goes to
Oh yeah, it goes to yahoo.com
Can't believe those guys didn't have that. They didn't have the
URL. No, they have Blackwater. usa.com There's a reason I read
this somewhere.
Henry Rollins is doing shows now have you seen any of those on
Democracy Now?
Oh, you know, yeah, I can only stomach democracy now for about
five minutes. Henry Rollins woman is so dour.
Yeah. Her performance I would say is indeed, it's like, we
know it's all fucked up. But at least I'm laughing about it.
Yeah, no, she's she's, she's depressing. She's dour. She's
She makes her two years she actually makes herself look even
worse by you know, having this you know, she looks like she
never washes her hair. I've never met Amy whatever hell Her
name is Amy Winehouse. No. Amy Winehouse, Amy something. And I
bitched about her once on the blog, and I got a bunch of you
know, all these people writing me er, just, you know, no,
that's where all the facts are. But, and I have to say once in a
while she'll have somebody on this interview, and they let it
go forever. I mean, they let them tell their story. They
don't cut them short. It's not sound byte oriented. And you
know you Okay, fine. But generally speaking, you know,
it's kind of a crappy production that is depressing is to breed
it's not, you know, it's it's unnecessarily biassed on to one
side and it's very progressive left wing, which is fine. I
mean, it's you but you know, it's not objective news,
anything any more than Fox you know, in that regard. And Fox is
more objective I think than these guys.
You should look at some of the news articles they've got on
Blackwater. Some of the press releases embassies contracts
security staff saves Polish ambassador. Blackwater saves 600
lives.
Wow. Unbelievable.
Well, it's a it's mercenaries profession. Somebody decided to
go you know, say look, mercenaries had a good business.
Let's start a company about it. You know, this make us do it.
Right. Let's professionalise it.
And let me tell you, they're not the only ones. And now and I've
been seeing this commercial on television for the past week.
And it's a new video game called Mercy. It's actually a mercenary
to and it's really weird because instead of a huge explosion like
trailer that you would expect to have a very kind of mundane type
song. The words are very freaky. Of course, if you look at it in
context, with the with the with the images, and you know, it's
mercenaries, and they're bombing oil, oil rigs, and they're, you
know, in Blackhawk and Apache helicopters and it's like
mercenary to, like, you know, we're totally conditioning the
next Blackwater recruits.
Right or whoever the competition is, there's probably got to be a
more onerous I mean Blackwater may just actually be what just a
smokescreen for some really worse operations.
And I have the I don't have it here I had the paper in the
paper downstairs that had that whole thing about the the
companies that trained the Georgia commandos
belly coming to train to get the Georgia combat Yeah. You know,
they're
like the Americans like like us, you know, because they're paid
for by the Pentagon It says it right there in the paper. What
are we doing paying for armaments in Georgia? I mean,
can I pay taxes? I shouldn't get to ask
or think crazy
and do the thing that bugs is slightly annoying is when you
hear about the you know, the green zone and rock and wherever
you know these guys are living you know, and they have fact
that they bring in catering services whatever happened to
the days where the army actually had a cook
Oh, yeah, you're on KP was named cookie. Yeah. You had KP kitchen
patrolling you had to peel potatoes.
Yeah, there's the peel but data is now they have a catering
service that comes in and you know they have big Donald's and
they have all these different kinds of options. You know, I'm
surprised they haven't got Butler's Well, I told him they
probably do some of the guys the top guys probably do but they're
probably not army Butler's are probably like hired.
Yes, of course. They're from the Hilton Hotel Group, of course.
But I told you, I told you about bizarro when I was there,
McDonald's, that a Burger King Pizza Hut, you know, huge salad
bar. Yeah, it's all commercial. Coke machines everywhere.
Yeah. How is this? Like any sort of, you know, you know, people
said, well, we're at a war we're in a war. We're in a war we have
kind of a war is this
well, it's the kind of war that keeps the economy going. That's
it. That's Thank you. That's what this is all about is keep
the economy going by going to war and then you know, That's
good for a big American industry
now I don't know there's something about it is there's
something wrong with this picture when they have you know
when they don't have KP
well they don't
know they don't have KP they and they want to hear about you know
something else something your catering truck turned over you
know.
Here we go I've got the US army spokesman said the goal of the
programme was to train the commandos for duty in
Afghanistan as part of a NATO led International Security
Assistance Force, right. The contractors MPR AI and American
systems, both based in Virginia, recruited a 15 man team of
formal Special Forces soldiers to train the Georgians at the
Vashi viry. Special Forces base on the outskirts of Tbilisi,
part of a programme run by the US defence department. Where you
go
to train more people than than we should.
And they probably had one of those jails over there where
those Gitmo jails
in Georgia be Yeah, that makes sense. That would be one reason
to protect the place. Right, John? That coming out, John?
Just to wrap this up? Isn't this also fucking wrong? I mean, this
has to stop. We've got maybe we've gone insane psychopaths
running the White House. Shit has to stop. It's out of
control. You've got a fucked up crazy Dutch guy running NATO.
Yep, to hoax hefur We know about Him, trust me. You've got
everyone's going out of business everywhere. We're so bad that
China can't even afford to pay for the wars that we're starting
to stop. And it's not going to be Obama or McCain. It has to
come from somewhere else. You're smart,
collapsing economy is that where an economy collapses you end up
with with it. That's just simply what's going to happen. And then
a list of companies or countries in debt and you know, we're down
at the bottom we're number one with the most debt is and the
numbers like not even close to the guys just above us. You
know, if you look on their fact, list is a really funny thing to
look at. You go holy crap. I mean, the whole thing is just
right now it's just baling wire and you know, and chewing gum
holding the whole thing together.
Yeah. So you think it when the when the collapse comes, which I
think starts Monday, I'm gonna set my watch by
the collapse, you don't have a boom before you have a bust. I
keep saying this. No,
we're just gonna have a splat. It's never happens that way.
Well, maybe there's a lot of stuff that hasn't ever happened
that way this time around. So it's all it's a new game.
Actually, you could that's one argument that there's no defence
against, which is if you study all the economic cycles, and all
the depressions that have taken place, you know, in every
century, there always have a different twist to them. There's
no two are identical. I mean, there's there's some similarity
sometimes, but every once in a while, it's like, wow, I did
that. That's pretty weird. Yeah, I think we're gonna go into
hyperinflation personally, because that's the only way we
can get pay off these debts. Well, whenever
I want, alright, okay. I think the easier way is just to pack
it all in say, all right, that was fun. We stopped this reset
moment reboot. here's the here's the Amuro. Everybody. America
here's the America.
Yeah, I guess the America could save the day. Oh, it
won't save the day. But it's it's like a company going we
have to go into receivership. I think we had that's a really a
form of chapter 11. And then we come out except the way we come
out with all right now we're all going to give you this new
paper, which here's the the new controlled circulation of that
paper. So we're basically just resetting everything back to
zero. And we'll start all over again.
Guess what the Brazilians did when they went from the crew
zeros to the rial.
How'd that work out for them?
It actually worked out very well for me. I mean, now I mean, it
did one point the CR zeros thing I have some of these notes
because because I first went to Brazil, they were still using
these things. And I have a couple of 500,000 cruzeiro notes
right with a guy you know, picture some guy's head and his
500,000 on there. I would like to get you know, some some of
that African money that's like this. Anyone out there can get
me some bricks of that mugabi money. I need it. Anyway, so
seriously, I wish somebody would get me so many people go there
in the eye and I kept forgot. So anyway, so they switched at one
point, it's okay, we're gonna drop this whole thing. Banks
there, you know, figured, you know, everyone got in all the
ducks in a row and they came up with this rial, which means real
obviously. And it was linked to the dollar one to one and it
remain good maintain the one to one ratio to the dollar for
almost a decade, because then all of a sudden, you know, and
then it became too realice to $1. And now I think it's You
know, floating around three maybe are two and a half not
sure, whatever it is maybe went the other way with the dollar
falling, but I had to look it up. But anyway, the it worked
out for my evening considering what they had before when they
was there the hyperinflation they were having at the time was
was you didn't they they always said do not cash your dollars
in. Except, you know, within it, do it within a couple of hours
of your purchase. Because it was like, like a couple of 2345 10%
a day. Right? You know, if you just the money which is becoming
worthless so fast. It can happen here can happen here to happen
in Germany,
I'm looking for this word is some phrase someone turned me on
to a while ago, it was like knee Raz or narrows, or is apparently
some law or some programme that Clinton put in place that could
reset the entire economy.
Have you heard of this? No. Never heard of it. Shit. Now, of
course, I can't find it. But I guess Yeah,
I guess so. Complete economic collapse. But that could take a
long time man to crawl back could take 510 years to come out
of the years.
Yeah, can you say? So? You know, we did that in the 30s. We
almost had we had close to the same thing in the 70s it took 10
years. You know, you get a lot of good music. The 30s were a
good era for music. So over the 70s and then you have a lot of
good movies. Entertainment quite good lot of restaurants open up.
You know, people read, you know, think their lives. It's just
horrible, but better not to do it.
There's gonna be a lot of people with no jobs. We're already at
six 6% That's kind of that sucks.
Ya know that one you have riots? Which is no good. Yeah. food
riots? Probably.
That's common. That's common.
I know. That's common.
Okay, the rial right now it's a buck 71. So it's actually gone
back toward the right way because of the weak dollar.
Yeah.
That's pretty good. Actually.
Yeah, considering consider this thing has been in business for a
while. And they've it's, you know, it's better than it was
with those cruise arrows and the whatever they had two or three,
I think they changed it a couple of times during that
hyperinflation period, the Brazilians got the reputation.
And people should note this, for having the world's best banking
system, because the banks had to deal with this hyperinflation
thing. And so they essentially are set up to deal with with a
really flaky economy. And to and to stay in business. They have
to, you know, they have extended they have a lot of very modern,
their way their systems work. And, you know, I've always
thought, Well, maybe it's a good, safe place to put your
money, except for the fact one of the big banks folded, but
there's two, I think two major banks in Brazil might not be a
bad place to put money if you've gone to a hyperinflation
situation.
That was kind of interesting that John McCain's son was had
just resigned two months prior to the collapse of the Silver
State Bank. Did you catch that?
No. Yeah.
I thought that was what's his name, Andrew. Thank
ya. I didn't notice that one. Yeah, he was.
I think he was actually in he was like a big kahuna there. And
he resigned two weeks ago, I'm sure sniffing the impending doom
Well, yeah, it's a good time to get out, you know, and be part
of it.
Yeah. I'm sure that's not gonna get a lot of ink.
You know, there's a lot of actually the best the most of
the interesting McCain stuff weird stuff is all on The Daily
Show with Jon Stewart.
Here you go. July 29. Here we go. On the eve of President
Bush's signing of the housing bill this week, which will
regulate as well as bailout mortgage behemoth man, Fannie
Mae and Freddie Mac and create a $300 billion programme to expand
the Federal Housing administration's capacity to
guarantee mortgages comes word that Andrew McCain, son of
presumptive Republican nominee John McCain has resigned today
from silver state banks board of directors. The bank cites
personal reasons for Mr. McCain's sudden departure. Yeah,
you think Eddie any inside info there?
He's getting out while the getting's good,
man. Yeah, we don't have the right connections at all.
No, we should be on a couple of bank boards.
It actually is pretty easy to set up a bank I found out
well, we set a bank up. Let's not just set one up in the
Cayman Islands or something.
It sounds like a really bad idea. I don't like that at all.
Gibraltar. I don't want to be a banker.
So fun.
There's about what are these would do. There's these
different places where you're supposed to be safe havens or
something. There's some islands over there out off the British
coast. There's, I think there's Cayman Islands. There's a whole
bunch of these places.
Yeah, but still, you know, the basic business of banking just
doesn't appeal to me.
All right, I had to go elsewhere to find my banking partners.
Yeah, you do that, John. You do that? Yeah. Alright, we've done
what else? Are we done?
I guess we are done. And maybe I think this show was kind of slow
moving. There's something Slightly depressing about it. I
think it's these topics that you brought up.
What do you then maybe you should come prepared? What do
you have on your notes? All I
had was Hillary conundrum. What was the conundrum? Oh, the fact
that she has to she can't really want Obama to win. That's the
conundrum. And the other one, I had to have this other note,
Obama. Somebody pointed this out because he Obama did the the
O'Reilly show deal while he saw snippets of it, which took a lot
of guts on his part to be honest about it. But O'Reilly keeps
smiling and kind of one of these slice smiles as though he got
Obama to say something that's coming up next week. Boy, it
could be just a teaser. Yeah, but I get the sense that Obama
did something said something stupid, but I don't know. But
but the thing that somebody pointed out in analysing Obama's
response to O'Reilly was kind of a dick. Was that if you if you
didn't notice that Obama apparently doesn't have the
capacity to ever admit he's wrong. He's never done that. And
you won't find it.
Because he never is wrong, man. Crazy, he's never wrong.
So I thought that was gonna be interesting.
Yeah, so that's coming up this week is that when he's airing
that full interview? I've only seen like, little bits and
bobs. Go to a little bit of it on Thursday, and then he's gonna
show the rest on Tuesday and Wednesday think. Right? And and
I'll probably just TiVo it and see what it is. He's probably,
you know, I don't know.
Anyway, John T minus four and counting. I hope that I get to
talk to you next week. They fire that thing up on Wednesday.
Oh, you're right. The Hadron Collider. Yeah. So let's get
stuck with it. Did this thing disappears into its own black
hole. I'm
going first.
You'll be sucked in with it.
All right. So hopefully, talk to you next week.
All right. All right.
So from Gitmo nation, Western Gitmo nation east. I'm Adam
curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk again next week right here
on no agenda.