I'm gonna go bite face. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, May 31 2012. Time to get my nation media
assassination episode 413.
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Oh, wait, I said that last week. Oh, and the week before I'm John
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item, which I want. I actually want to talk about this later
because I think we should go into it in depth about what Mark
Zuckerberg stiffing the staffers lunch in Italy. Really a big
scandal in Italy? Apparently women. So he didn't go to this.
What you're saying is he went to lunch? Yeah, with his wife. And
then he didn't tip. Which if you
want if you want to talk about it, because of course, you know,
I made
you but I want to do a little later. But I want to talk about
it by I have downloaded all the different tipping sites about
what you're supposed to do. And I think it needs a little
discussion. Because I think a lot of people I know when I'm
floating around, I always have to look it up. Because every
country has got their own things to do
I have one standard. One standard. It's five bucks.
That's right. At the four seasons. Now it's 15%. Unless I
really liked it, then it's 20%. That's what I always do. Yeah,
standard, and wherever I am anywhere in the world.
Yeah. And there's some places where that would be an insult
and that's fine. You don't care. Would that be an insult? It's
then this in the insult of the countries, the insulted
countries? Where
would that be an insult?
There are places where we talk about it later. Oh, the tipping
facts here.
Then what are we talking about? Now? We're not talking about
tipping? We're not talking about Zack, what do you want to talk
about now?
Okay, we're talking about tipping. Now I'm
not that interested. 15%
Let me just read this though. Just to give Zuckerberg a break.
According to Rick Steves who you see it commonly on the PBS
nations whatever it is they selling books. In Italy if you
tip if you really like to place the food and the service to if
the waiter is very friendly. For example, in the US the waiter
has a small salary, but just because you have to do a lot of
get a lot of tips tipping is necessary in Italy. No,
you don't tip.
You know salary is good. And the tip is something exceptional.
All right. You know that guy's a big multi billionaire. Yeah, I
am.
I am banning stories about Zuckerberg on this program. I
am. I'm just banning it.
It's done. I'll just call coward just referred to him as Zuck.
I don't think so. Well, a couple of interesting things this week
that I've been tracking, I would have to say the most astounding
news article I read was the one and only New York Times the of
course, obviously compromised but you know, the, the the paper
of record with I thought was quite a detailed explanation or
or overview of President Obama's love for drones, and his secret
kill list. And the baseball cards and his involvement, even
with deciding on the fate of a 17 year old girl, uh, whether
she should be drowned or not. And for the New York Times to
publish this, I thought was exceptional.
When really that's interesting. You'd say that. Well, when did
we first discuss this issue? Well, we've
been discussing it for years.
So now you're pleased, because years later the New York Times
I'm telling you what, what's interesting about this article
is the is what the how the left has reacted to it. Well, of
course, this is obviously I have a little clip from CNN if you
want to hear
you give me that and now throw my clip at you now. Okay, so
this is Wolf Blitzer. And you know, we're in the summer months
so everyone is we have all the fillings, which is pretty funny
because they all suck. But this is Wolf Blitzer situation room
and he talks to some nondescript correspondent over there at the
Pentagon in their rugged green screen studio.
What you see is from a New York Times article that's We've
really laid all this out in the greatest detail yet, is that the
President is involved almost at a tactical level. And the
changing technology has allowed this President to make decisions
that no previous president would be able to do. So what you have
is a wide variety of counterterrorism officials,
national security officials, weighing in looking at the
biographies of suspected terrorists to decide who's going
to be next on the kill list. And then finally, the President
himself can weigh in and make an exact decision, because of
technology because of these drone strikes. It's the
President himself who can make these sort of tactical
decisions. I spoke with an analyst Peter Singer who said,
there are actually two kill lists, one being run by the
military, one by the CIA. And the danger in that is that you
can manipulate the list. In other words, if you have a
target that maybe doesn't meet the criteria from the military
list, you can sort of put that name on the CIA list. And what
that could do in some cases, where you have this overlap, is
it opens up the process to perhaps manipulation, because
you've got some of the same people involved in these
meetings. Wolf,
how does that make any sense? What? How does it make any sense
what he just said? You got the military says kill XYZ, the CIA
says killed XYZ. And because the guys on both lists that that
opens up manipulation? Well, like to me the guys on the A
list? Well, what? What's he talking about?
He's in front of the velvet rope. Oh, the I think what he's
saying is, if, if it doesn't, if a name doesn't fit according to
the military's condition to be on the kill list, then you can
always go over and talk to the CIA. So it's not really
manipulation. It's just, you know, the list. So just when
you're on the list, no matter what,
with different agendas, agendas, these lists,
and at least for now, correct me if I'm wrong, the legal
opinions, this is nice. The White House legal opinion of the
Justice Department, legal opinion of DOD legal opinion
authorizing these targeted killings with drones and other
means, if necessary, those legal opinions remains classified
secret, right.
So that's an interesting question. They remain secret
listen to the guy's response. He he answers the question and then
go straight into something else, because of course, he doesn't
actually know how to talk about it.
Those remain classified and neither the White House nor the
Pentagon has really given a full accounting of how they measure
civilian casualties. They
don't it goes into something else. Now, before you get to
your
cheese. How did you talk about changing this subject? Yeah.
What I found interesting in context with this is Ultimen
published another White House insider report.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't get there. Yeah. And
his focus in this report, which may or may not be coincidental
that The New York Times reported this. I'll just read some of
that verbatim. Barack Obama takes personal pleasure in using
those drones. Now, why is that? This is the insider speaking.
Because that kind of obsession that ain't normal. He's a lazy
slob of a president. But that damn drone program has his full
attention. He loves the shit out of those goddamn drones. He
spends hours watching television or flying around giving another
speech, but he don't miss one of those kill meetings. So ask
yourself why. And I'll tell you that once you figure it out,
then you see the big picture. You see what's going on here,
you see the payoff. You see how odd things he said in the past,
and how they make a hell of a lot more sense. Now, you see
what a second Obama term really means for us. You see why the
military is getting more and more nervous about this guy. You
see why it's got somebody like the old man, that's the Wall
Street insider, so upset and so damn afraid. Obama loves them
drones, he's made it a personal priority above all else. Why?
Well, I got the goods. I told you what their reelection plan
is how they're going to use race division chaos. That's the
reelection plan and the drones fit into this scheme.
And he says how
well that's gonna be in the next in the follow up report. To us,
it's a tease. But do you what do you think about that? And I'm
taking this White House inside. First
of all, I think the guy's got these definitely has some good
context in the, in the vicinity. But when you see these people do
these sorts of teases, that means they really haven't got
any evidence. They're just working. Okay, maybe, maybe. I
mean, come on, you know, it's just like, you know, what we've
watched is the six o'clock news. I mean, I don't like it. Well,
there's a couple of things that happened one, Rumsfeld came out
and can do it for doing this, which I thought was weird. Oh, I
didn't I didn't miss that. Yeah, Rumsfeld came out and said this
is not a president's job to micromanage this sort of thing.
I also believe that this is putting him in a position of
being coming a war criminal. Well, do you think if it isn't
if he hasn't already, so he so I'm watching democracy now and
they don't know what to do with these these left wing
guy they must have been freaking out about this. They didn't know
what was going on God their
their hand wringing how we got my can I vote for Matt, the
Viking don't want Romney and you know, I won't vote for a third
party because I don't know why. And so Glenn Greenwald, who's a
really outstanding writer, a progressive, he's a very extreme
he's very left. He writes for salon and he's well regarded
I've I've always enjoyed reading him, I think he puts his stuff
together quite nicely. But he's a leftist is what you're saying.
He's a big time left big time. But but a good one. He came out
and I think he kind of, he kind of brought to the fore on the
Democracy Now. Now he's on a Skype connection. So it breaks
up a little bit. But he brought it, I think he really hit the
nail on the head with the concerns of the left. And I want
to play this clip. It's a little long, but it's worth listening
to, from his perspective. And I want to just do a little
deconstruction at the end to explain something that I think I
caught in here.
This is why I wrote yesterday. You know, I think one of the
things that the New York Times article did was shed light on
President Obama's character, you know, we can talk a lot about
his policies, and that usually is what's most important, and
we've known that he's been embracing these radical theories
of executive power that even George Bush's former CIA and NSA
Chief General Michael Hayden has lavishly praised and other Bush
officials are over the moon about in terms of President
Obama endorsing him. So we know his policies have been extremist
and radical. But here you have one of the most controversial
things, as I said earlier that a president can do ordering an
American citizen, assassinated by the CIA, in total secrecy,
with no due process never been charged with any crime, even
though they could have charged him if they really had evidence
as they claim that he was guilty of appalling terrorist attacks.
And instead of charging him they simply secretly ordered his
assassination. And it turns out that there was no struggling in
terms of the difficult constitutional and ethical and
legal issues. This obviously presents according to the
President's own age, they're boasting to the New York Times
that he declared that this was a quote, easy decision, not
anything that he struggled with something that he made quite
easily. And so we find out that not only is he exercising this
radical power, he's not even having any struggles with
conscience or constitutional questions or legal or
intellectual quandaries about it. It's something that as as
his National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, also bragged to the
York Times about it shows how quote comfortable he is using
force even against American citizens and that I think
reflects really on on the type of person that occupies the Oval
Office.
Okay, let's see your deconstruction.
So is that much of a deconstruction because it's
pretty obvious what the problem is with the left. They don't
care about all this killing and droning. They care about the
fact that that Obama is not anguishing over this. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, my God, dude, can we do this? And he sits and he
worries and he reflects and he reads a couple of books and a
priest comes in and a rabbi comes in and he and rings.
That's what they want. Well, that's, it would be okay.
Yeah. Well, that's the theater the George Bush would put on. He
was pretty good at that.
Yeah. Yeah. No, he was good. He was a good good to actor. Yeah.
But what gets these people is that Obama is so easy and
Cavalier, because he's cool. In every respect. Yeah. Yeah. I
think it's graduate bomb has killed this guy, his 17 year old
screw or she's dad. Let's go bond. And then they of course,
in the New York Times article, it didn't mention this one
little factoid, which is that apparently, there's no civilian
casualties because they've defined a militant as anyone
goes, we just their age, from 18
to 40. Or if you're doing jumping jacks.
It could be their training. You're doing jumping.
Training drone him drone him now. Well, I just wanted to
remind everyone over a year ago, what was it now two years ago,
here's what the President said, during the White House
Correspondents Dinner. I have two words for you. Predator
drones. You will never see it coming.
You think I'm joking.
Now this was directed at the Jonas Brothers. And it kind of
shows that he's a psychopath.
He's totally a cycle.
And here's the question that keeps popping up in my mind. If
this is such a great way to do it, and you know, it's okay to
have a couple of civilian casualties as long as it's doing
jumping jacks. And you know, we're happy PETA drone people in
Pakistan Why didn't we do that in Abbottabad? Why did we have
this whole elaborate so called SEAL Team Six capture mission?
Why didn't we just do use the drone there?
Brian end of show clip. Editor Klein's got it. No I have I have
this clip too is Valerie Jarrett. Yeah. I'm thinking the
following because Valerie Jarrett, according to Ed Klein,
your friend Valerie, yeah, who I've
been saying, I told you she's the one I told you. She's the
president. And now it's coming out. She's
apparently was dead set against standing in SEAL team. Six. And
the President does a pretty according to claim for the first
time ever, because everybody else said we should do this.
Except of also Biden. He was also against it there. Which he
doesn't talk about too much. But she was dead set against it. And
so he overruled her and they let the military do their thing. I
would suspect that she would be promoting the idea just droning
that place and the hell with it. Right in the middle of
Abbottabad. Right in the middle of town, which is a little
risky. But who cares? I'm going I think she might be the one
behind the gate just encouraging to do more of this droning.
She's well, I can't wait to read this guy's book. What's it
called is called like amateur amateur. Amateur. I always kind
of dislike it he was on was Rachel Maddow? I think he was on
whether right?
No, this was actually an interview on Fox with
oh, okay, good. Because Oh, that's interesting. I have only
seen one of my clip is because it's not an end of show clip.
Yes. Just 50 seconds. This is a play. Yes. It's Klein, I think
with the Rachel Maddow,
anything like this in modern presidential history. One person
who's the best friend of the First Lady. And the soulmate of
the president, who was the last person to leave the Oval Office
at for a meeting, goes upstairs to the family quarters, has
dinner with the President goes on vacation with them, has his
ear is de facto President of the United States.
Wow, that is big. Well, let's talk about her resume. Does she
have the resume to have this job?
No, she doesn't. But what she does have is the trust of
Michelle Obama, number one whom she hired in Chicago. And the
President who uses her as his gatekeeper. She keeps away
people who might come in and in some way embarrass the President
tried to get him to do things that he doesn't want to do. She
she uses the radar, right for the President and the First
Lady.
And she of course, is the the true Chicago connection.
Something else that I noticed is that the Obama reelection
campaign headquarters, and we found out about this during the
the NATO Summit. They're located in Chicago, which is not typical
for an incumbent president to have his reelection campaign
headquarters, not inside Washington, DC.
Yeah. Oh, by the way, this the same clip is the same. Okay,
that's fine. It's only that he goes on with some other. More
interesting, personally. Yeah. And
I figured you'd have that. So we'll play that as in the show
clip.
So what works here? Yeah, no, there's something fishy going
on. He talks about the fiasco that Valerie Jarrett set up to
try to get the Olympics to Chicago. Oh, yeah.
Remember that? Yeah. That was awesome.
It came in last.
Good job.
And how can you come in late if you're Chicago representing
Chicago, and you come in last, dealing with a corrupt
organization like the IOCC. A corrupt city and a corrupt? You
know, you think it would work out?
Yeah. No? You did not corrupt enough, apparently.
So anyway, this is, but it's this droning thing is very
disturbing, lacking
the outrage, that's for sure. I'm lacking the outrage amongst
American citizens, because we know that the President will
drone an American citizen in another country. So how long do
we have to wait? And are these US drone programs just going to
be surveillance? Or will they? I mean, will we? It's possible
that we actually will see someone droned in the United
States.
I would predict it. Do you think it'll
happen before the
election? No. No way that would cause some problems. But
eventually I think it will happen. I think they've opened
the door for the public apparently. I mean, it's
everything to me is always test marketing. The public reaction.
Well, right now
it's like, whatever.
doesn't care because we're uneducated population that you
know, it's deeply debt for student loans and the rest of it
and nobody cares. They don't pay any attention. I mean, besides
our show, well, there's there's a case in point they do on
Democracy Now. But there's a show that nobody led that we
have a probably a bigger audience, but
there's, there's Case in point, the test marketing, they floated
it out there. No one cared. Maybe that's what this all was,
and was like, Yeah, whatever. Well, it doesn't seem to be a
mana, you know, he doesn't seem to be a twisted about it. But
otherwise, you know, that doesn't matter if he's doing it.
So maybe maybe the test is successful. Now we can move to
the next phase. You'll say no, I'll say we'll see some kind of
drone activity. I don't think we'll be shooting Hellfire
missiles. But I think it was way before the election sometime.
Sometime during you know, sometime during the summer
in the book. Yeah,
I would say before the election, we will see drone activity in
the United States where someone either got tased or being
bagged, or T bagged, or some. I think we'll see that we have to
go to the next stage. In this.
I don't think you can take a chance but I here's what I'm
putting down in the Red Book. Okay. You're predicting drone
activity in the USA. Were scrabulous hit too.
Aggressive drone activity. Let's let's call it that aggressive
drone activity before the November election
right before November? Yeah, this is not going to happen.
Okay. Well, we shall see. I'm pretty sure on this one.
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on the bottom of his bike. So when he goes around the corner,
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What's that say?
It's it's very obvious So I tweeted that picture out and I
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and not to mention asked forces asked for
it doesn't work by the way as forces.com Let's see it doesn't
work.
Well then. We have to fix that somebody has said it's a fix out
to
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I'm sorry. It's working now so it got fixed so maybe that would
be I like it no agenda show or maybe someone will set up no
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can maybe score some babes
some yes some pit days that's
that's why we do this show ladies and gentlemen. That's
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propagate the formula
our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth
come on can say like you mean it shut up
so since we did have sir gear, chime in. What is the tipping in
Norway?
Or yet you're asking me? Yeah,
I'm try this is a quiz. I think
you give the person a herrings head.
Do you tip hotel maids in Norway?
I tip hotel maids any everywhere I go. I always put change on the
pillow when I vacate the room. Always. Yeah, like whatever
dollars or whatever. I got my probably about five bucks a day.
I don't
usually do that. tchotchkes and Crap. Crap. Especially the T
shirts, a lint. There's a lot of cool stuff that I'll pick up at
a trade show. And then as you're going I'm traveling and then so
lame. Junk.
Depression, John, we're in a depression. You gotta leave
dough hardcore. I love it. And I usually say crap, you know, when
I go to San Francisco, I stay at the Courtyard by Marriott, which
is a really crappy hotel,
does it? Well, I love it because it's just walking distance to
everything. Yeah, it's
walking distance is real simple. And everyone's kind of, you
know, there's no poshness to it, so there's no stuck up a holes
walking around. You know, it's not like the W, which is half
the price of the W. And, and I like it. And then if you leave
five bucks on the pillow in the morning, I'm usually there for a
couple days, then the room, you know that you can really see
that they pay attention to it. And it's really nice, you know,
they put the love into it. And I like that, I think is very
important. You know, they're working for slave wages there.
So, hey, this is something I have a theory here on this on
the clown capade. That is Donald Trump.
I have the clip.
Okay, we'll play your clip. And I'll give you my theory which,
which
is the clip by Wolf Blitzer had Trump on and the two and Trump
is just he doesn't even pay any. And then he insults bliss
Blitzer. Yeah. Who calls him an idiot after that? And then he
says, No, you're an idiot. I mean, what is this? This is
ridiculous. I think
I know what it is. Let's let's listen
to this birther issue after the state of Hawaii formally says
this is the legitimate birth certificate. He was born in
Hawaii. Why are you going through all of this? A lot of
people don't agree with that birth certificate. State
of Hawaii authorizes it. If the state of Hawaii says this is
official. He was born in Hawaii on this date. Here it is. Why do
you deny that? A lot
of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. Reported
well, but many people do not think it was authentic. His
mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that
came out. And frankly, if you would report it accurately, I
think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting
which are pretty small.
Donald, have you seen the actual newspaper announcements within
days of his birth in Honolulu, for example, let's start bullets
and we'll put it up there. You see the birth announcement back
in 1961? Listen, listen to me, Donald. Can we can I ask her up?
Can I ask the question and Obama, Donald Donald, you're
beginning to sound a little ridiculous. I have to
tell you you are well, let me tell you something. I think you
sound ridiculous. Okay,
so I have I actually took a little different piece from that
but it's okay. I don't need to play it because what what Trump
is saying is you guys, the media, you're playing this up I
just watched, let me play the beginning of it because it is
kind of important for the next one that I have on this for the
for the theorem, listen to beginning here
because what he said was wrong and what he said was talking
about
the reporter who is teased Trump coming up about Trump being the
birther guy,
almost as though President Obama read it, but I'm sure he knows
that and I thought it was a very inappropriate introduction. But
go ahead with your first question.
So what Trump is saying is an A he does go on to continue on
this track. Is that the the the president wrote this
introduction about Trump being a crazy birther almost, you know,
and this is what CNN is propagating. And we had Johnson
Nunu, you want to give a quick background of Johnson Nunu
because he was a big wheel back in the day, right?
He was I think he was in the was he was in the was it the Nixon
administration? Or the
I believe it was? Well, let's think so. I think them all, you
know,
was the 75th, governor of New Hampshire of 83 to 89. Later,
White House Chief of Staff under George HW. Oh, there you go.
He's the father of John E. Sununu. Which is another one, we
have to know which one we're talking about. But I think this
is the John ages who were talking about who do you refer
to in the story? Right. So it was George HW,
so he but he was a big wheel? And he is now? Yes. And he is
now the he's a consultant or something for the Republicans,
maybe even directly on the Romney campaign. So Soledad
O'Brien, who you and I both know, I work with you work with
her right with soda. Yeah, she's sweet. She's very sweet. But
she's out of her depth. So of course, we've we've got the
we've got the vacation period with us now. Which means
absolutely no one is watching CNN who was already bad. As
Donald Trump pointed out, they're quite interesting, quite
funny. So she gets to fill in for Anderson Cooper and do all
these things. But she's got the hubris of like, I'm a real
journalist to go with it, which is kind of a mistake. When John
Sununu is a well practiced guy. He know. And
he was also known, in fact, he was called the soup. I have it
here. The Bush is bad cop.
So this guy, this guy knows how to handle reporters. And he
certainly knows how to handle Soledad O'Brien. And smoke is
coming out of her years when this goes down. But it's
important to listen to a it's just funny, because some of that
is like, she's just she's blowing it. And, and it's also
funny, because Sununu is saying the same thing that Trump is
saying, I think that's where we're gonna get into something
interesting. The fact
is, is that this country has a jobs problem.
You see, he's doing the same thing. But why don't why do you
want to talk about the birther thing? This is ridiculous. Let's
talk about jobs in the economy
and supporters of the president like CNN, keep wanting to talk
about other issues. It was
interesting every time you ask anybody a hard question, they
suddenly go to this? Well, you must be supporting
a hard question. This is an easy question. Mitt Romney has made
it clear. He believes the President of the United States
was born in the United States. Now Now we can talk about the
big issues in the Africa a 44 million people to jobs. 24
million people underemployed,
which I agree with you on that front, and we're gonna get to
that in one second.
So she's in the deep end without her ringlets on that I agree
with you on that. We'll get to that sounds good.
We'll get to that. I want to ask you. Why does Mitt Romney not go
further? For example, as I'm sure you hear, this is great.
I've seen many times when John McCain was posed a question by a
woman who asked him a question. Not only did he say, Here's my
position, he said to her, let me correct you. So I'm gonna play
that clip for you.
Aren't you embarrassed to be speaking directly from the Obama
speaking points that they distributed yesterday?
This expression? Well, here's what I was told to do. I feel
embarrassed to sound exactly like the Obama spokesman talking
about John McCain.
This is a clip that we have played a few times. It's a
conversation that's been Oh, come
on, come on. Let's talk jobs.
Let's talk because you don't want to talk about the fact that
a major
issue, it's not an issue. You run the campaign that believes
that the President was not born in the United States.
So then how come someone doesn't say Donald Trump is wrong? And
what
is wrong? The President was born in the United States
that might be the first time Well, thank you,
ma'am. No, it isn't. It's just because you don't read enough.
Oh, brother,
he's mopping the floor with porcelain does
bad? Yeah. He's probably right. I think I think there were some
talking points that went out. Oh, yeah.
Well, definitely she was just repeating them.
I don't know that she knows that the talking points were given to
her. He is, you know, the right they you have writers on these
shows, and they put some stuff on the proper you just go with
horse. Here's the producer is the one,
here's what I think is happening. So there is actually
a lot going on a lot of research in Hawaii. And it is it's still,
you know, the crazy Sheriff, our PIO and you call them crazy.
He's still an actual sheriff. And there is new evidence, I
believe that is going to come out. I think that the
administration is aware of it. And they have hired Trump,
because I don't trust Trump for a second. All I know that he's
really I don't know, if he's good at real estate or anything
like that as his name on buildings. You know, he's, as
far as I'm concerned, he's just a frontman for a whole bunch of
other people. I think they have hired him to stir this up so
that they can call everyone a nut job when the new evidence
comes out.
That's a good one.
And the and I've seen some more deconstruction. And I do see CNN
is on this continuously. You know, they talked to someone in
Hawaii, someone who was in the office, they show another guy
getting his birth certificate from the from from the Hawaii
records office, and they say, Oh, it's just like the one Obama
got it's exactly the same. Why don't they believe it? There's
too much. It's, you know, you doth protest too much me think
if is too much going on. And I know that in the conspiracy
birther circles, they there is talk of a new, really great new
evidence. And of course, we we did recently have the
President's own bio from his publisher, come, you know, come
out and saying, you know, born in Kenya, raised in Hawaii. And
of course, that was just a mistake, obviously. I mean,
please, I was oh, no, that was just a mistake. I think,
if you will, I don't know if it was a mistake or not, as some
people know, I'm consider you up or, you know, think of the guy's
a psychopath. I'm being facetious, obviously, with how I
say used it to sell books.
No, I think the cover up is not. There's this the Kenya thing was
brought in to cover up something else. And that, I think, is the
evidence that's going to come out I believe that this hole
born in Kenya, not born in Kenya was covering up something else.
They never expected the guy, they expected the guy to be
important. They who control him, but they never really thought
that he would make it all the way to the White House. And they
blew the cover up of something else. Maybe who was real father
is no, we can't pass or is
that that that has been in the discussion before I think two
years ago. I think I believe that I brought up this this
connection to this guy that his mom was having an affair with?
Who was a very faint dad. I don't have the documentation in
front of me anymore, but I do remember it. Which is our I
remember it. I don't do remember it. Sorry.
I can tell you that I can give you the name keep going. Yeah,
that guy
that he was he's like a left wing. Idea. Log that was there
any looks more like In fact, I recall the there's documentation
on this showing pictures. Here's what Brock looks like. Now,
here's what his dad looks like now the Kenyan dad. And here's
what brought looks like now here's this guy. They look like
they're the same person. This guy looks just like Barack
Obama. And it was a known fact that he was hanging out with his
mom a lot. And that's the belief makes him an American, by the
way.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, that's the interesting part. That's the
irony of the whole thing that that is exactly the irony. It
was Frank Marshall Davis.
Yeah, that guy. That's the guy. Yeah, I've discussed this at
least two years ago on this show
that the and I think somehow there's evidence about that and
who is this Frank Marshall Davis guy?
I think it's gonna be DNA stuff coming out. That's probably
what's gonna so that that's the
rumor is that there's DNA that will prove that Frank Marshall
Davis was his father. That is the big the big rumor who was
Frank Marshall Davis.
Well, he was a famous left wing, good communist or borderline
communist. Black radical as I recall. What's his name again?
Malcolm X. No, not him. Davis, Frank and Frank Marshall Davis.
Frank. Oh, interesting. Look at the book analogies from
Honolulu. Now you go Wow, yeah, that's him there. Yeah, that
guy. You know, we're so far ahead of the curve on this show.
It's kind of sometimes we forget and
then we have to go back like
remember it's so long ago that we've discussed this stuff. And
now it starts coming out and we're like we've seen flat
footed because it's like, Wait, we're way past this. Yeah. Okay,
so here he is a 17. He was a he was a news guy. Freelance
articles, short stories. Charizard poetry, including
things like Chicago's Congo Sonata for an orchestra. He was
a news guy. Yeah, progressive news guy and let's see if
there's anything about his radicalization. disrupted
industry and try the attention of authorities workers conducted
large strike this is the democratic FBI he was apparently
tracked by the FBI. Or you also authored a hardcore pornographic
novel, which shouldn't be a good one to get. Ya. The book titled
sex rebel black corn winmore Memoirs of a gash gourmet, nice
under the pseudonym Bob Green. Write that down
Memoirs of a gash gourmet. That's his porn book.
lectures that how are you as a poet? Some poet.
I think that the reason why the birth certificate has been
falsified is to cover up the fact that that Barack Obama
senior is not his father. It's Frank Marshall Davis.
And his memoirs Dreams from My Father Barack Obama wrote about
Frank, a friend of his grandfather's Frank told Obama
that he and Stanley Obama's maternal grandmother, or
grandfather had both grown up only 50 miles a partner, which
although they did not meet until Hawaii described the way race
relations were back then including Jim Crow. And his view
that there had been little progress since then, as Obama
remembered it made me smile thinking back on Frank, and his
old black power duszniki self that some ways he was in as
incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith living in
the same 60s Time Warp that Hawaii had created.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, there's a connection between
Obama's mother and Timothy Geithner.
Yeah, there is I remember that. We discussed that about a year
ago with some detail. And that was because she worked for one
of Geithner's operations as an assistant and I think she was
knew him fairly well. Yeah, there was that I don't know if
that's got anything to do with this. But that connection does
exist. A Geithner's
Father Peter Geitner was the head of the Ford Ford
Foundation, Ford Foundation's Asia grantmaking in the 80s, and
including microfinance grants, Obama's mother and Dunham so
Taro developed the microfinance program in Indonesia. So
there's, you know, I think that that is it's the cover up the
cover up is the problem. It's, I, I have to agree with you, I
think, you know, he is an American, a natural born
citizen, but not the one that we've been told and that cover
up is coming back to bite him in the ass. That's the problem.
That's why they hired Donald Trump, who you and I could hire
him if we had enough money. He'd go out there and say, You know
what? Wealth? The best podcast in the universe is no agenda
show. How much do you think it would cost to get Trump to do
that million? I
think it would cost as much as you think really
think it'd be cheaper than that. Hmm. We could get blight. We
could get his dogs. One
of those guys he works. He's a worker. He's a workaholic, he
would do anything for money. So I think you know, 20 grand,
you'd probably get him to do that.
Really? Now let's put in a call. Who do we call her? I
know these types of people. Do you know who to call? No, I'm
not doing the best podcasts universe but Trump said that it
would be worth 20,000 We probably would not
I'm not on CNN, I'd have to be on my run a real CNN show.
They take one listen to this show. And these guys
now now, you should be like, you know, O'Reilly or something
where people are watching.
How are we gonna get ABC plug in O'Reilly show?
We're ABC. Let's get let's get Diane. Diane. Diane. Diane, you
saw stuff. Mitch, you listen, the best podcasting University.
Have you ever heard that? You know what? Let's apply.
Anyway, so I think that's what's going on there. And I think it's
a good theory. It's like it's like a double whammy. It's a
it's a reverse on top of a reverse. It's the reverse
psychology reversed. So of course they're worried about the
cover up coming out. So hired Donald Trump to have CNN bitch
Adam as a smokescreen. Yeah. And because he and Sununu are both
saying the same thing. Let's talk about jobs. And I'm like
you're part of the scam. You're part of the theater that is
being set up, unfortunately. Well, actually, it's this is a
good place to do it because no one really watches CNN. But then
the CNN clip gets used over and over, because that's yeah,
that's everywhere. Yeah, that Blitzer thing got used
everywhere. So I think that it's a strategy, but you know, if
that's if they have to resort to those types of tactics. I mean,
that's really then things are really out of control. I got
some real problems. And you think Obama's got problems? You
see what happened to Tony Blair, in Gitmo nation East? I love
this
youlet because of his PR guy.
No, he was. And he's, he's going through, he's testifying again,
the guy's always always has to testify, because the Iraq
testify. Yeah. So we know the guy's a war criminal along with
the George W. Bush.
Everybody seems to be I mean, which bite which will bring us
back to the Charles Taylor thing, which I think is kind of
interesting. Since a war criminal, I mean, this is, I
don't know, this is I would be I if I was pressed, we didn't we
didn't we didn't talk about Charles Taylor yet. And I got
some clips about that. But I was gonna say if I was president in
today's world with the especially after the Charles
Taylor thing, you'd shut down the internet. Well, I do that
anyway. But I just think that the idea like what Obama's doing
with these drones is just he's not going to be able to go to
Europe ever.
No. Oh, no, he's gonna have to go to you know, Paraguay,
Paraguay, or maybe just go hang at the bush ranch. He's working
for that. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. In Paraguay. Exactly. So he he's a
very interesting three parter, really only a minute of of
audio, but a three parter for it. So he's testifying. There's
an interruption. And then what he does next really caught my
attention.
Labor Party policy of this stage, but we can we can check
his evidence on that. I thought it was part of the five but
anyway.
This man is to be arrested for JP Morgan pay him off for the
three months off, we invaded Iraq. Iraq bank for 20 billion.
It was pay $6 million every year and steal from JP Morgan six
months after he left office.
Right on very good. I like this the man Oh, and by the way, I
told us that one my totally this was live. I totally agree with
the JP Morgan connection is completely true. You know, Blair
got out. He's, he's, you know, he's 100 millionaire, making all
kinds of consultant fee
presidents. That never used to happen, although it's claimed
that Martin Van Buren was the first guy who monetize the
presidency. And it could come out of the presidency as a
public servant richer, told him when he went in, which is what
we saw with Clinton in His Word, yes, yes, ludicrous amount of
money.
This is this is now the scam. It's not what you do while
you're in office. It's what you set up to do when you're out of
office. So you get your your compound in the Paraguay ranch.
And so now the the judge or the douchebag, presiding over the
over this, a court hearing has something to say.
And I'd like to find out how this gentleman managed to access
the court through what is supposed to be a secure
corridor, I will assert that it was an inside job, I will assert
that we have our people everywhere, in all positions of
power. And the elite should be very worried about this. Because
of course, a guy can't just burst in through a secure
corridor. Now, because he was led in, this is how it works.
And we're everywhere. And this is going to happen more and more
and Blair's afraid of it.
And I'll have an investigation undertaken about that.
Immediately.
Can I just say actually called the record what he said about
Iraq and JP Morgan is completely and totally untrue. I've never
had a discussion with them about that.
Now, why would you do that? Blair? Why would you? Not true?
What do you said? That was a mistake. If
you go back and play that last check that clip again. He parses
it in a funny way that it just
for the record, but he said about Iraq and JP Morgan is
completely and totally untrue. I've never had a discussion with
them about that, or any relationship between them.
I know. He says I never had a discussion with bow about that.
Oh, yeah, no, he's
totally lying. That's what I mean. It's like, Why would you
eat? I mean, what an idiot. He just made it worse.
Yeah, you should have just shook his hand and the judge
tries. The judge tries to save him. Your title say what you
want, but not feel it necessary to ixnay on the Aikman stay err
bleh he'd get a lip. Yeah, shut up, man. Shut up. I got this
cover. Now, what do you do?
No, I appreciate that. But part of the difficulty actually with
modern politics, and I'd say this not as a criticism, the
media is the my experience of the reporting of these events is
that you can have 1000 people in a room and someone gets up and
shouts or throw something. That's the news. Yeah, no,
it's the truth. It's not the news. It's the truth. You're a
war criminal.
Man, so I thought that was kind of fun. And I hope we see a lot
more of this. And that was clearly an inside job.
The way the guy got it. Yeah. Well, I think the judges right
how do you get in?
Because I won't let him in. is how it works.
He was dead or whatever.
These are media hackers, man.
So I'm watching talking about war criminals. So I'm just here
Victoria Nuland. Your buddy yeah, I
have. I have a couple State Department clips. But are we
moving? Are we moving on to Syria? John?
Yes. I do that when we sent out the last newsletter that we did
we it was unavoidable. Yeah, I got some good, bad. You've got
some better stuff than this. But this one thing got to me.
Victoria Nuland is, of course the spokes hole for the
Department of State. He
just seems like a dummy to me. But I like to I'm going to ask
this as an ask Adam, why don't you play the de Victoria Nuland
blames the Iran Iran I'm sorry for the Syria massacre
this morning. We called in Syrian shores aid affairs are
here to bore and informed him that he is no longer welcome in
the United States and gave him 72 hours to depart. We took this
action in response to the massacre in the village of
haula. Absolutely indicee. indefensible vile despicable
massacre against innocent children.
Stop it. They back it up. Did she say indispensable?
Let me listen again. Interesting choice of words. I'll
despicable. Further back. Okay, cool.
Yeah.
It was a massacre in the village of Paula. Absolutely in despair,
indefensible.
It was gonna say indefensible, then she said, indefensible.
She's gonna say in dispensing said indefensible, interesting,
vile, despicable massacre against innocent children,
women, shot at point blank range by regime thugs that should be
her, aided and abetted by the Iranians who were actually
bragging about it over the weekend. Oh.
All right, you can ask me.
All right. Where were the Iranians? And she said it right,
by the way. Yeah. Iranians bragging about it, bragging
about it over the I looked
and looked, they were not bragging about it. There was why
did she
say they were bragging about and this got picked up by all the
news media behind it.
There is so much disinformation going on about this hula hoop
affair. So, of course, we need to step back just a few steps.
With the BBC starting off by talking about indefensible. The
BBC showing a picture of a rocky bodies from 2006, I believe, and
saying that those were the bodies of Syrians. You surely
you've heard of this?
Right? Yeah, this was all over the place. And this and they did
picture they used it on the front page of the BBC website.
And it was from it was from 2006. And it wasn't even in
Syria. They got you know, slammed by by a bogus picture.
And you don't know how much of this and then they still have
you still watch the reports on the BBC is we can't confirm this
video is the theme.
Right? So but they don't apologize for it. I think that's
a major gaffe, major gaffe for an organization that claims to
be so apologize for no, they have not apologized for this.
They've not apologize now instead, because they needed to
distract something. Then they do. The the BBC nightly News.
They talk about, you know, this Houla massacre. And they talk
about the United Nations Security Council, that they are
now discussing this. And they show the logo from Halo, the
video game Halo, they show the United Nations Space Command
logo. And I have to believe this is on purpose. Like, we got to
distract the attention from the from this thing. Let's throw
this up and they apologized for that, that they did apologize
for. So the BBC the BBC is very complicit in all this. Yeah. And
then we get well, of course, it is the exact same type of script
as we've seen in Iraq, the same type of script we've seen in
Libya. The key here is to bring in something about children.
Let's listen to Australian foreign minister Bob Carr,
not you knighted nations is demanding an immediate ceasefire
to end the bloodshed.
Ladies and gentlemen, Australians have seen the bodies
in hula
have we have we really now? I've seen like pictures in which
looks like an auditorium I saw pictures in a ditch. I saw the
pictures on the BBC. I don't know what I'm seeing Mr. Bob
Carr and they were a pool, a polder pool
that a regime could conniving or organize the the execution the
killing of men, women and children.
Okay. And then we have Alistair berry from the get my nation
east to a foreign official something ministry department
were polled at point old same script has to be credible
reports
appears to be credible reports. I mean, this is crazy. The
Syrian regime has been responsible for the deaths of 92
civilians in hula, including 32 Children, the UN head of mission
has been able to confirm the numbers and also that artillery
tank shells have been used. This is the case then it's an act of
pure naked savagery,
savagery, which is a technical term. And then and then the
guardian. They do the ultimate. They say we spoke for 15 minutes
to a young boy. And the young boy tells this horrible
harrowing tale and we don't have the boy's name we don't have on
video we just have their story we have to believe believe the
boy that the Syrian troops came in were killing they they shot
five bullets at the door of our house. They said they wanted my
father my brother they shot me They shot my mother They shot my
brother I put his his blood on me so they thought I was dead.
And this reminds me so much
a minute Who does it so these guys can let me get this
straight. So these guys according to the story, this get
these guys come in they shoot the dad they shoot the brother
they shoot the mother and then he he rushes over to one of them
puts blood on himself as I suppose the guys must be
standing there that just shot these people the hole so he
pretends he's betting the end and then the dummies go oh, look
at that kid there he must be dead. What? This space? No, this
story makes zero sense.
Read the entire Guardian article 413 dot na shownotes.com onto
the Syria node, you can see everything. And of course, this
is a complete callback to the so called Nerea and Nyira defense
or testimony, which happened in the United States Congress. This
is the next step. This was the girl who turned out to be the
daughter of a Kuwaiti ambassador. And here was the
tearful the tearful testimony she gave which of course was the
tipping point for all out shock and awe
was there I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital
with guns they took the
babies I think commanders Thank you bears and let the children
today on the call.
And of course this was completely fabricated for a
woman Yeah, complete actress yet completely fabricated.
Right. And nobody's up in arms about the fact that this took
place. I mean, they it was actually admitted to after a
while. Yeah. Oh, well, you know, yeah. So it goes. Yeah. So it's
not believable to me how passive everybody is about these frauds.
Let me play my real quick clip here on Sirius scam perspective.
This is another BBC report where they're talking about one of
these towns and it's from the camera and all the crew is on
the side of the rebels who are shooting aimlessly just remember
that when we were covering the other phony baloney that was
shooting, shooting into the air shooting into the airship, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, and they sell it but meanwhile, they
admit that the troops the government troops have long
since left the city but these guys are still running around
shooting. And this is what it sounds like.
There's no sign of Kofi Annan pleading for peace in Syria
being heated. latest pictures show outbreaks of violence in
different parts of the country. Syrian forces may have pulled
back from this checkpoint Yeah, hula where last Friday's
massacre took place. But the government still insists that
terrorists not its forces carried out the atrocities.
The Syrian government this year, people are extremely troubled
with this heinous and unjustified terrorist crime that
took place and that Hola.
Yeah, of course it's al Qaeda and that's the CIA operatives.
So then I watched yesterday's State Department press
conference Nuland has been moved out to had to bring in toner
Mark Toner,
oh, new FICA? Somebody looked into this. Oh, yes. Celebration
by the Iranians that never took place.
So here is here's the talking points. And it's very
interesting. What what took place here I have three separate
clips. The first one and some of this is hard to hear because
they don't always turn the mic on the journalists, good
journalists in this crowd. You never ever, ever see these press
conferences on the news. I love watching them. They're kind of
tedious because sometimes it's total bull crap. So here is an
important kickoff to the questioning about Syria peace.
I mean, when the observers are there, they are stopping
violence they you're seeing that people are allowed to freely
now you hear what she said. She already said peacekeepers it's
not observers. Now we now move from observers to peacekeepers
very key differentiation here.
We call them peacekeepers. But what it does speak to is the
fact that their very presence as witnesses as monitors can often
prevent the government from carrying out atrocities. But
does that not sort of overstate their mandate? I mean, what is
the difference between that and what peacekeepers do I
refer you to the UN for the delineation between the two you
slick toner slogans you said,
you will walk into convened the Security Council. So what type
of prison what we're consulting
the assault into? Security Council? So
what kind of resolution are you looking for? Is it under the
shot chapter chapter seven, you insist on it or just
condemnation?
I think we're looking again, I don't want to predetermine to
prejudge what might come out of it. The Secretary has mentioned
chapter seven resolution but let's wait and see.
Okay, chapter seven, the Secretary that will be lucid for
clippety clop. Hillary Clinton. As mentioned chapter seven,
we've seen this move from five to six to seven. Here we are
chapter seven of the United Nations Charter, article 41. The
Security Council may decide what measures not involving the use
of armed force or be too employed to give effect to its
decisions and may call upon the members of the United Nations to
apply such measures. These may include these may include
complete or partial interruption of economic relations, and rail
sea air, postal telegraphic radio, other means of
communication, then we move on to article 42. Should the
Security Council consider that major provided for in article 41
would be inadequate, or proved to be inadequate, it may take
such action by air, sea or land forces as may be necessary to
maintain or restore international peace and security
sucks at such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and
other operations by air, sea or land forces of the members of
the United Nations. So we're on deck. We're on deck to implement
a chapter seven resolution which will mean you know, no fly zone
droning bombing, etc. And now we get to now toner messes it up,
and Jill and Matt. And Matt is the guy we love. Jill is she's
the woman from Yeah, oh, what's her last name? The blonde kind
of thin face?
Yeah, I don't know. She's good. She's.
She's good. So they're not letting up because he, he slips
up?
He goes on Syria as well. Okay. Sorry.
Overall question is why the United States at this point, is
willing to not really leave. The United States is allowing a
whole bunch of people, a whole bunch of countries to kind of
lumber along and make it up as they go along. Something doesn't
work. Sounds like a science experiment. You know, let's try
a little bit of this. Let's try a little bit of that. And when
you look at the HAR, right now, har everyone is saying it's a
tipping point, sa
o key word. Let's see if we can latch on to the tipping point
long do you let this experiment go on?
Well, you know, you're absolutely right in expressing
heart about what happened in hula. On Friday, you know, Kofi
Annan referred to it as a tipping point. Certainly, we'd
like to see other nations within the Security Council view it in
the same light, so that we can bring that concerted effort that
we feel is necessary to, to basically take Assad out of this
calculation and to and to lead to a political transition.
So it's as if John C. Dvorak was transported into the press
conference into the body of Matt, and saying, what tipping
point what tipping point at what point?
Does the administration agree with the former Secretary
General, this is a tipping point? And if so, it's a tipping
point for what more inaction?
I think, you know, you can call it a wake up call, you can call
the tipping point. But I think that, you know, the events that
took place in hula, even in a, even in a struggle that's been
marked by really some profound atrocities, that that hola was,
was a new reached a new level of
understanding a tipping point for what
I think tipping point for more international action in concert
against Assad regime.
And and you would argue that the expulsion of the diplomats by
the conservative by a group of countries is one. Beginning is
the beginning of the more conservative action.
Look, I think we're going to continue to apply pressure bring
pressure to bear where we can and where it's most effective.
You know, Tori spoke to the expulsion of these ambassadors
for shark days yesterday, as a political statement.
Representative,
the administration sees that as the beginning of a new concerted
push against
this administration as as been pushing as hard as
he's trying to get him to say it.
Yeah, there's again to say it probably not.
Well, the tipping point thing keeps coming back tipping point,
tipping tipping point, wake up, call tipping point, whatever.
But then just to wrap up what I've got here, PJ Crowley. Who's
PJ Crowley, I know this guy, T writer,
low at a press conference, I would hope No, no, no, no, no,
this is this is not this is on matto actually, which was
interesting. PJ Crowley.
Let's do a thing that we can do. It's one of those things that we
can manage.
The United States Assistant Secretary of State for Public
Republic
affairs, he's another PR student. He
says something on Rachel Maddow that I found to be interesting.
Joining us now is PJ Crowley's former assistant secretary and
spokesman at the State Department. He's currently the
Omar Bradley chair and strategic leadership at Penn State
Dickinson College in the Army War College. Mr. Crowley is also
a retired colonel who served 26 years in the Air Force and a
retired colonel. So he understands the importance of
Syria, which we still don't understand. But I think he lets
it slip here. PJ Crowley,
thank you for being here. Pleasure ritual, that the
details of the hula massacre are, are awful enough without
knowing who did it the State Department very strongly
emphasizing today, not just that it was militia, but that it was
Syrian militia aided by Iran. Is that the thing that an
exclamation point should be on here. It's not the most
important part of us. It's one of two. And the report
highlighted the other end, which is where does Russia go since
Syria is its most significant remaining client state in the
Middle East? Its entry into influence in the region. If
Russia shifts, a lot of things that have not been possible for
the past year become possible.
What does that mean?
If rush lines probably hate this, throw that back? By the
way, just as an aside, I used to bring in Rachel Maddow clips,
and you did nothing but grouse about it. Just mentioning this
Sure.
But this is a guest who's on our shows different. It's about No,
I wouldn't
just have Rachel yakking away. I always had guests. Let's go on.
Okay, so they're talking. So this guy says something
fundamentally changes.
Listen, listen to it. Again,
if Russia shifts, a lot of things that have not been
possible over the past year become possible.
If Russia shifts a lot of things that it means
that they go along with the program, which they're not
doing. They've already said that they're going to veto any
security council measure against Syria. That's what they've said.
And so we know we're in negotiations with Russia about
this in some way or other because this has been going on
for a while. We've been pointing this out on the show
for more than a year more than a year or more than a year,
right because With March, we established that they had the
ports there and all the rest of it. So and So Russia's still got
their hands full or arms folded, and they're saying no, not yet.
No, no, you better do a better deal than that. Or something is
up with the with our dealing with the Russians. And as soon
as we get them to sign off, which they'll do eventually,
because we're the world's will cave on something about the
Russians have like Eastern Europe or something, who knows
what
we're gonna have that have that crap over there and take that
Eastern Europe, then,
then then the Russians will say, yeah, yeah, this is terrible.
I'm looking at the front page of today's New York Times in Syria
as the top of the news. And there's a woman holding her kid
who's wondering why he's being held, I think she's bawling
about because he got hurt himself or something in this
like, shot, I guess.
I'm just giving you some sound effects for this.
So when the Russians given or when to negotiate them some
deal, they'll say, Okay, we're gonna do it, they're going to do
the whole scheme. Again, it's worked every time nobody's
complained about the no fly zone, the Viagra, the rapes,
five stuff will come right back into the news, and it's going to
be part of the cycle and then cereal go down and become part
of who knows who's gonna take that over? Whatever the case is.
That change is something fundamentally, it's our job to
figure out what that fundamental change is, what what does it
mean? And I would probably guess, I'm sure it's a pipeline
or oil does something to do with oil or pipe? I mean, Syria is a
poor country. Yeah. They don't have any real resources. So they
either are a transit point, or there's something Oh, they're
well,
they've got pipelines. We know that they've got pipelines.
pipelines going on, pipelines up left and right. That's what this
is about. We've already established that because homes
is pipeline. It's all pipelines. He maybe he gives us another
clue in the next bit here on this list, hold on a second.
Pick it up here.
And by the way, this is the guy kind of he got essentially fired
from his job for saying something about the Bradley
Manning saying it was like, you know, this bullcrap what you're
doing to this guy believe. And he also made, he makes a lot of
snide remarks, which got he's a
loose cannon. I don't think he should have said this. He messed
something up here with this Russia comment.
This is perhaps the beginning of a process where Russia will
recalculate? You know that and we'll make more clear that while
it supports the Syrian regime, it may or may not continue to
support Bashar Al Assad. So
the thing, the fact that Russia took this one step is very
important. But the thing to watch is what Russia does next,
do they revert to their old position? Or do they stick with
this new one? All right.
We have to figure it out.
But it's we have to figure it out first, but this is just a
simple pipeline situation. It doesn't sound that fundamentally
different cuz those pipelines we're going through anyway.
Well, they want it to come from the Mediterranean, that's the
only thing I can imagine is they want they want either flowing in
or out or both ways through the Mediterranean. And of course, we
know that right after Syria, Lebanon is on the list. And
already Lebanon is being brought into you're hearing more and
more of that.
Yes, started pretty month ago. Oh, how
can we we need the briefings. We just need to be on them. But can
we just get on the mailing list?
You can get a lot of mailing lists. Just the same talking
points that Sununu was complaining about.
I want to get on the mailing list, man. What's going on?
Somebody should be able to forward as more stuff than we
get.
Did I hear you talking on the Horowitz Dvorak unplugged show
that you use a Geiger counter to see if the fish you're eating?
have radiation that I hear you actually say that?
We do have a guy we do have Geiger counters in our family.
That's not my question. We have checked yes, as a matter of
fact, we eat a lot of sushi. And we have a total market called
Tokyo fish market this local and every so often a bunch of fish
comes in from Japan. And it's various tunas or whatever, then
there, I don't know. And we've checked him with Jude, you know,
we just routinely checked our fish once
and has didn't know. I think
this is crazy. Yeah. Yes, I do. Why we Geiger counters are very
high. No, no, I don't
think that's crazy. I think the what's happened here is another
fantastic first of all, you and I will agree on one that we
might disagree somewhere here. We agree that there's been a
decade's long concerted effort against nuclear energy, which is
probably really bad because if you want to get rid of all of
the problems that have so called global warming, everything
nuclear energy is clearly the safest way to go.
Yeah, I think the French have shown that but it is clearly
the safest way. You know, we haven't seen millions of people
die. You know, it's just it's not true. Also, there was in
now, I don't know enough about nuclear energy, but I do read
contrarian reports you know, atomic rod Adams where I really
like reading his stuff and I I corresponded with him a lot. He
was on a nuclear sub for 30 plus years, actually 33 years, which
kind of makes me suspicious about our conversation, but
okay. 30 plus years. And you know, and he's very clear look,
there was the first people always talking about a meltdown
and all this stuff. There was no meltdown. There's no huge
radiation killing cloud. But I think what has happened is the
conspiracy alternative. Internet media, has this meme going, that
they're covering up the huge radiation, they're covering it
up.
I've seen this email from a lot of our listeners that point out
and you read this stuff, and it's like, talking about fat,
you know, it's bull crap.
Yeah. And I think that they are feeding this by making it sound
more secret. So no one is actually coming out and saying,
Yeah, our fish are radiated. Although this report from NBC
Brian Williams, the lead in alone, the myth the
disinformation blew me away and I think it's solely intended to
fire up more conspiracy so that will never ever ever get nuclear
energy because it's going to kill us by eating irradiated
fish, which obviously has not happened yet. Because you've
been checking your and I liked this. You've been checking your
fish from Japan. No radiation. Listen to this. A
bluefin tuna caught off the California coast have been found
to contain elevated levels of radioactive matter, dating back
to the Japanese earthquake and tsunami that led to that nuclear
accident. How
does that how, wait a minute. Can you date this? He said,
Yeah, but it says,
Can you date radiation? That's bull crap. That's told that's
ludicrous. So he's setting it up to the Oh, it's dating back to
the Fukushima reactor. He's feeding the conspiracy. He's
feeding the beast would you disagree?
No, I wouldn't disagree at all. And I wonder how that tuna got
over here. We don't have a lot of blue Coast off and Long
Beach.
Are you kidding me? They have graphs and charts and everything
Fukushima
power plant. Our report tonight from NBC has Miguel McGerr.
Today at the San Pedro fish market in Southern California,
Dan condotta inspects the catch of the day and stressed his fish
are safe to eat. The word radiation creates fear in people
that 15 bluefin tuna caught and tested off California's coast
last summer showed low levels of radiation but still 10 times
higher than normal. Scientists say it's the first time a fast
moving migrating fish has been shown to carry radioactivity
from Japanese water.
I don't know that they were radiated from Japan.
Yeah, that could be a big pile of radiation in the middle of
the ocean that they feed on for all
Tokyo license plates or something or, you know, how do
we almost didn't believe it to tell you the truth. But then we
got paid to
tell you Dr. Nicholas Fisher Professor of Marine Science.
Don't you love the name? Code? There's code sciences
co authored this study. Every single fish was significantly
contaminated with two radioisotopes of cesium and
these are common waste products from nuclear accidents that you
hear how they cut them off common common waste products and
he says nuclear accidents and then he there's a whole nother
list of common waste products but they cut them off right
there to distort the report products
from nuclear accidents.
The research shows the Bluefin Tuna that spot and feed in the
waters near the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
Yeah, they're right there
and they're nibbling on the rods. That's what that was what
you're supposed to think. Oh man, these tuna that just
sitting there I just like sucking up all that radiated
water
migrated some 6000 miles. Ooh, and boy are my fins tired
reaching Southern California just a few months after the
disaster. Though the sample fish are contaminated the levels are
far lower than what's considered dangerous today.
So what Yeah, well, that's the whole point. The FDA
EPA said they'll continue to monitor for radiation and no
public health concern has been detected
in US I read all the all the levels etc. And yeah, it's
elevated. But it's it's still so incredibly minut but this is a
beautiful campaign to continue to have people and now it's our
people who have been completely indoctrinated and are afraid of
nuclear energy. There has been no melt down okay. There's no
you people keep talking about a melt a true meltdown is
something completely different. There was no meltdown. Now this
has been refuted by many many experts. And by the way, now we
have a new shill coming in to the you know that that douchebag
resigned the was his name George Zack or what was his name? And a
shield for what? The nuclear energy commission in the United
States the guy who was mean to women?
Yeah, no, I haven't been following it. Oh, sorry. Yeah.
And uh, well, we talked about it on stuff about this. This
Bluefin for one thing I didn't know we caught Bluefin off our
own coast, which is amazingly delicious by the way. This is
pretty screwy the story?
No, it's oh, here's atomic rod. He just posted something today.
The scientists who measured the cesium and performed the
isotopic analysis to conclusively prove that the
cesium came from the Fukushima power plants were justifiably
proud of their skilled use of sensitive scientific tools and
analytical methods. They published their peer reviewed
paper in the reputable journal. The authors did a good job of
selecting their papers title has garnered vastly more attention
Hold on. I'm sure rod has some refute on this
I've got to get into this more. But so Okay, so good. So I'm not
off base, at least on his side. I gotta tell you, I'm, I'm a pro
nuke guy. I think it's great. And yeah, we've had accidents.
And we've learned we get better. You know, Chernobyl was
definitely bad. I think maybe 50,000 people died. And that was
quite a while ago, Three Mile Island. No one died. Now then we
had Fukushima, 20,000 people died in the tsunami and a couple
people in the blast. I just I'm just not buying it. I'm not
believing this. I really am not buying it. I think your
position is okay. I mean, it's the left the old left
progressives in the United States that are all panicky
about this the old ladies I'm kind of a cold guy myself, but
that's another story here Greg
jack so he was he's the guy who who resigned he was the meanie
but now they brought in a she's alright I think she's already
been what is it that certified but what's the what's the word?
certifiable?
They're all certifiable.
Licensed
know when you're approved by the by the Senate?
Oh, confirmed confirmed.
Yeah, Alison MacFarlane is the new chairman of the Nuclear
Regulatory Commission. Now she okay now though, she's under
confirmation now. And she's an anti nuclear.
And she's the head of the commission, but she will if
she's concerned and what is the point of this is like putting
these these teetotaling prohibitionist it ahead of the
alcohol board.
Yeah. Well, that's kind of the point.
It's dumb because it
protects the the petrochemical world that we live in. That's
why it totally and when you look at the uses of thorium, it's
just we're being so indoctrinated and the sad thing
is that our people now the alternative media are calling
we're all big cover up. Oh, they're we're all gonna die from
the radiation. Alex Jones is selling iodine packs. Me and
break. There's your disinfo agent right there. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. That's bullcrap. That's completely not based on
any type of science. And people give me incredible grief about
this, John. When I say I like it, I think nuclear is good. And
this whole radiated fish is bullcrap proof in the pudding.
My podcast partner, John C. Dvorak has a Geiger counter and
checks his sushi What more proof do you need? I asked his
Geiger counters are cool. Anyway yeah, there's there hasn't been
any issues with the sushi. I think we better take a
break. I was I was trying to start it but you keep keep
saying something extra. So I'm gonna show
no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh,
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It's wenches, and beer and hot pans and booze. And that's what
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the show financially. You know, that is a lifetime commitment to
propagating the formula and to waking up other slaves. And I
think a lot of, if not all of our Knights and Dames take this
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in fact, the way we're going
to change anything that was not going to work but at least
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you have to even in your own environment. And be careful
because now this can lead to divorce. So news today in the
continuing war on sugar is and I'm laughing because it was all
like Oh yeah, it's good. And you know, Bloomberg Mayor Bloomberg,
New York, he's good. He's banning smoking everywhere. Damn
nasty smokers. Well, now of course Marcy has come out and
said, well, guess what, we're going to ban large drinks, large
sugary drinks, anything above 16 ounces will be illegal, go to
jail for selling that or even maybe walking around with it.
And and so it means Mickey this morning. She says, Well, this is
good as what? Yeah, because you know, idiots get fat from
drinking that. I said that's their own problem, too. What
next? What is going to be next? What are they going to take away
next? I'm sorry, you have the wrong shoes on. You can't wear
those shoes. You've got to stop this. We have to stop this. And
so if you don't, you know keep reminding yourself even in your
own community, your own environment as small as our two
person community here is you get steamrolled by the machine.
You're absolutely right, John, and the way they do it is
extremely effective. They have this ad where someone's drinking
a glass of fat.
No, it's this is a problem. This is this is never ending. In
fact, the either one of us could fall off the wagon. If it wasn't
for the other ones. Right. Thank you because we created a slight
competition between the two of us to keep digging, you know, I
would just love to see why you've done it done it to me. I
think I've hit you a couple of times. But you may be ahead on
this game, where you come out with some bogus information that
somehow you got suckered into, and you throw it out on the show
the other guy Hey, wait, that's bull crap. Crap. Oh, crap. Now,
by the way, there has been some good sugar news I should
mention,
well, not necessarily. He got suckered in. I know what you're
gonna
say the response to the petition from the corn fighters is yes,
yes. You know what? So this is the problem. This is why I'm a
government legislation analyst. The headline reads FDA rules
corn syrup can't change its name to corn sugar. That's the
headline. JC buzz killed Jr. Very intelligent individual. He
fell for it. What did he say to you? What were what were his
words? Well, I've
got the letter here. He says it looks as if they said you cannot
use Greg didn't say much other than that. He says the current
currently the address from the letter from the FDA the use of
the word corn sugar for FCS which suggests that FC F HFCs is
a solid, dried and crystallized sweetener obtained from corn
instead. HFCs is an aqueous solution derived from corn after
it and it goes on to the process and would not accurately
identify the product. As such, the term sugar would not be
consistent with the general principles of governing common
use of usual names under 21 CFR one Oh 2.5.
And that's where you tuned out. That's what everybody does.
So you went looked it up? And I
looked at the letter and I read the whole letter as a government
legislation analyst. And after this whole thing, where they
basically say no, you may not use a substitute high fructose
corn syrup with corn sugar. However it states FDA is
regulatory approach for the nomenclature of sugar and
syrup's is that sugar is a solid, dried and crystallized
food, whereas syrup is an aqueous solution or liquid food.
FDA is regulations permit the term sugar as part of the name
for food that is solid, dried and crystallized. So they're
giving them on a silver platter, the opportunity to crystallize
their Syrah and then call it sugar.
Good. Well, because they can't do that. Why not? It's not
doable.
You can't you can't crystallize syrup.
You can't crystallize. HFCs there's no way.
You're sure? Yeah, you're a scientist?
No, this is this is the problem to this stuff has it? This is
why you can use it to make chocolate. There's all kinds of
issues as chemically turns into this goo. It doesn't
crystallize. It's not just if there's no underlying
crystalline structure, the only way things can crystallize is
because there's crystals built into this chemical structure of
the product like salt.
So could they add some crystals into it?
No, it would be a gooey mess on top of the crystals. That's the
problem. They would have crystallized this stuff years
ago if they could.
So the what the FDA is
saying, you can't crystallize water, for example, you can't
crystallize oil. You can't crystallize gasoline, everything
you boil down doesn't crystallize. It's just the it
has to be have a crystal and structure underneath. Underlying
and there's no crystal instruction. It's just gobbly
goo
Can you make it a solid?
I I think he can probably make it some sort of maybe I don't
know I've never boiled it down to solid that would be horrible.
It would probably be some it'd be black. It'd be terrible
because
what they're basically saying is syrup is like a gooey syrup for
food that is liquid. And and sugar is something that is a
Solid. And actually they say, oh crystallin they Well, no, they
say in what I'm reading the letter right here, they say one
in one part they say it has this is what sugar looks like,
here it is the regulatory approach or the nomenclature,
sugar instruction, is that sugar is a solid, dried and
crystallized food. I'm reading the letter to where whereas
syrup is an aqueous solution, or liquid food. I don't
think we've seen the last of this.
Well, I think you're being harsh on JC without real foundational.
Okay, I'll give you that. I'll take it back a little, a little
only because I'm, I think I think that this however, they
put in here and they get into the FDA approach is consistent
with the common understanding of sure sugar and syrup as
referenced in a dictionary. I think that's waft the language.
And I think that they're setting something up for some possible
future change in the structure of corn syrup. I could be wrong.
In fact, I'm probably wrong. It felt to me like why would you
put that in there?
Why would maybe the guy doesn't like this stuff. What I got the
kid The thing that impressed me about this wasn't the what they
did, because as far as I'm concerned, they're still going
to, at some point in the future, they're going to they're going
to get things read to find out to just get rid of that if this
is one guy in the FDA College Park, Maryland, you know, he's
going to he's not going to be working there for the rest of
his life. No, no, but my kick was this was supposedly based on
a public petition. And the petition was like, it was excuse
me, supposedly a consumer petition with all this stuff,
like a second with regard to your request to remain the
standard identity of dextrose monohydrate. Right, to eliminate
corn sugar as an alternative name, which is another name they
want to use, by the way, dextrose instead of I think
they're I think they're saying you can use that right you can
use no no, no,
they said no. No, my what I was gonna say is that my I got the
biggest kick out of this suppose it petition. This petition is
bullcrap. There's no petition, it was a bunch of guys in the
sugar corn lobby, sign in, you know, somebody wrote it from a
public relations perspective, and then a bunch of Jokers
signed it. And then they sent it to the FDA, you know, demanding
that they change these definitions, even though this
whole thing was a front. It was a, which I think is the reason
this thing came about because this petition was obviously a
fraud as a petition is not a true petition. You don't think
the public is going out there demanding that they change high
fructose corn syrup to sugar? No. Anyway,
I need to I need to get into this bath salts zombie thing,
which we mentioned at the very end of Thursday's program. And
of course, everyone I was seeing the this is a multiple parter.
There's a whole bunch of things going on with this. And I like
it because Erin Burnett is is propagating her formula. This
start off and we all know you know, some guy when crazy start
to chew another guy's face and then the cops didn't tase him,
they killed him and they had to shoot him multiple times. So the
way this has been turned into bath salts, which I want to
discuss is very interesting because the first local reports
local channel seven never made mention of Bath Salts. As for a
reason
police have speculated its drugs and doctors at Jackson Memorial
Hospital say
anything is possible. I've seen it with crack cocaine. And I've
seen it with spice. where patients at that time they're
either severely paranoid, or in another state of mind.
Okay, no mention of bath salts or anything like that. Then we
have the local CBS station
sir believes the man clearly clearly was on some very, very
powerful drugs. That's right, Cynthia, the Fraternal Order of
Police president tells me this prop of LSD is a major threat to
police officers as well as LSD is what she's saying here the
rest of us he says it turns normal people into monsters that
possess this want to
LSD ever do that?
Well, no, no. This is what their report this is really key
because this changed over the course of two and a half days.
Yeah, there yeah, there is morphing as well.
So here's you heard the first one that was crack cocaine. Now
it's LSD is a powerful LSD, human
strength and no ability to feel pain. He believes that's what
was behind the incident that unfolded here Saturday in broad
daylight just off the MacArthur causeway.
When the police approached him, he turned around and growl and
kept attacking the victim on the floor. That's when he says the
officer shot him. The initial shots had no effect. He had to
repeatedly shoot him about four times.
This by the way, what it really is the guys on the ground, he's
chewing the other guy's face and you shoot him. There's no How
about tase I'm gonna pull him off. And you cops are what are
you know, we shot him he didn't and then he just kept on eatin.
So we shot him again and again and again. And where were you
shooting him in the leg in the back in the head? I mean, what
were you doing? So this is what leads up to the zombie meme,
which is very interesting.
Man collapse
the naked attacker now dead on the sidewalk. There he is on the
left. His now faceless victim lay on the ground next to him
likely writhing in pain as sources writhing
not writhing but you misread it bitch. You said ribbon. No
longer
had eyes or
nose. I can only imagine by talking to the officer. I see
that he's totally traumatized. It was like something out of a
horror movie. Oh, well, let's
propagate the mean by the law says this is the worst out of
about four similar cases in Dade County to happen recently. And
other incidents that people have admitted to taking a new strain
of what they're calling bad LSD,
bad LSD. It's LSD that keeps a crack cocaine. Now it's LSD,
oil. I'm sorry. It's bad LSD.
Their body temperature reaches such a high degree that they
have to take all their clothes off because they're basically
melting from the inside. He says
that was a case just
making this stuff up as they go along. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. But And remember, this is local news, which is, you
know, these are the people who are actually on the scene before
it gets to the networks where it starts to morph the
way on Bayshore drive. That was in March when a bloody naked man
who had been hit by a cab growl that police and showed
superhuman strength when they tried to help them more than
10 or 15 officers on the scene. And even after they taste her
the man two or three times he was still able to take a baton
away from one of our officers and severely damage her arm.
So now the story goes, goes nationwide. And it gets to CNN
and of course the minute it gets to CNN where no one's watching,
they just get through. Okay, we've got that because we
already know what this is, but we're going to pretend we don't
know what it is yet. So now we're going to say it's LSD.
It's cocaine. No, it's bath salts
story out front tonight drugs known as bath salts being blamed
for a gruesome scene in Miami.
This is a nick this by the way was a report from a day and a
half ago
man it was shot dead on Saturday by police because he was
knocking off another man space
she has to do all she has to go like knowing meanwhile you know
she doesn't make that face when when children are killed or
people are drone by the President. Oh, this is this is
horrible. Now this is horrible.
Obviously that douchebag sounds horrific and it is I want to
warn you that the pictures we're about to show you are by
the way the pictures are not horrific because everything's
blocked out. You see a guy's butt with a brown blurry spot on
it.
Anyone who was horrific very disturbing. 31 year old Rudy
Eugene was described to be in a zombie like state well thank
you for introducing it Aaron Thank you zombie we got that was
caught by
police. Our man No, they didn't catch him. Though. Aguilar,
president of the Miami Fraternal Order of Police suspects Eugene
was under the influence of so called bath salts, which are
sold as cocaine substitutes or synthetic LSD.
Oh one now now it's changed Wait a minute bow bath salts are sold
and this is not this is patently untrue because I'm gonna tell
you what it is in a minute. And now she's saying bath salts
which is sold as synthetic cocaine or LSD or really Erin
let's talk to an expert
when he was found what he had done to this man's face. victim
was 65 years old truly horrific. Apparently all that's left is
his goatee. His eyeballs were gone in space. It is it is
unbelievable. Get to the edge of trial. Sophia is a psychiatrist.
Oh, here's
an expert now listen to the expert. This is the best at the
Los Angeles
County Department of Children and Family Services. And he's
out front now. Dr. Sophie, have you ever heard of anything like
this? I mean, it's awful to even talk about some of the the
things I just said that this man did to his victims face
Absolutely, there are many reactions that your brain can
have when you're putting in a substance such as this these are
very cocaine like substances that will have a very aggressive
reaction within your brain and the behavior that comes out of
that could be anything from aggression to ripping off
basically someone's face
it's in the book of knowledge you do this cocaine and then you
know you could rip someone's face off
severe severe reactions and they're not able to be tested
these drugs so
oh what wait a minute you can't test them
we're putting in substances into our face that we put into our
bodies oh he messed up there we don't know what is gonna happen
when we do that.
So when when we use the name bath salts which I guess is the
street name. You said a little bit cocaine like I mean what
what what would be in it? I mean, does it vary every single
concoction or what what's really in quote unquote bath salts?
Well, that's a that's that's a really great question because
No,
it's not. Oh, it's not a great Questions. The bottom
line is these are not substances that have been properly studied.
And so we don't really know what's in them, we just see the
kinds of reactions and can kind of guess what chemicals in the
brain they're reacting with. And then hence the behavior. So
that's why the studies need to be done. And then we can we can
make the testing that needs to be in place to be able to see if
people have taken these or not when they're behaving this way
because bullshit.
Okay, so at this point, I can't take it anymore. Bath, it's a
bath salts are well known.
Yeah, MD MV, exactly. Ethylene deoxy Pro, Valeria Pro, Valerian
first developed a 1969. They've been around forever, also known
as MDP K, MTV, magic, Maddie black Rob super CO, P V. P IV,
and then they turn them into bath salt. And you can make this
stuff at home apparently, John. That's your cue to tell me how
to do it. Because I can't wait. Do you do that? Adam? I don't
know. But what I do know is that there are two forces at play
here. One is the pharmaceutical industry. Because what this is
really like and it go if you if you really Google around and
blots of people are doing these bath salts. It is more like a
souped up Adderall. In fact, I believe, and I'm hoping you
might be able to help, John, that the if you look at the
actual structure of MDPV, it is more like Adderall than LSD or
crack cocaine. And the pharmaceutical industry, they
cannot have you making your Adderall at home. They need to
sell you the drugs. This is why the bath salts have got to go.
So you know, now, if you take the bath salt, you turn into a
zombie. And you eat people's faces off
if you take Pyro of Pyro velour own? Yeah, that's what it is.
Pyro Pyro valorant, but it's Adderall. It's basically
Adderall. Well, I'm I haven't seen it. But you got me on that.
Okay, well, I can do it. And this
is just the street knowledge. Everywhere you look, people are
saying, Yeah, you know, I I'd rather I'd rather take Adderall
because I can dose a little better. But if I can't get any,
then you know, I'll I'll take some Adderall
is one of the most is the fact we did this on that generation X
ray show that you hate. Hated recreational drug use amongst
the millennials. And Adderall is the drug of choice for
everything. They use it for reading, they use all kinds of
things.
Yeah, but But now, you know, the Adderall is, you know, this is a
drug war. But even worse, it's a freakin commercial. For Brad
Pitt's
new movie, which is
what World War Z.
This is the latest disclosure and a report from National Civil
Defence Headquarters in Washington.
I'll take your questions. Is it a virus? We don't know? How does
it spread that airborne possibility? Is this national
health hazard or military? Are these people alive or dead? We
don't know. I'm a survivor living in New York City.
Now it just goes on and on. So Brad Pitt is coming out with a
huge blockbuster movie called WWE worldwide zombie. And it is
essentially he's the United Nations guy who finds out about
this. We don't know what causes it is probably the bath salts.
And people turn into zombies dead people come alive. And they
they blow they wind up I think incinerating half the earth to
get rid of the zombie problem. So you know, now the commercial
interests are in weed. Everyone's saying zombie zombie
zombie zombie? I would like to go back to the Red Book. And
would you please tell me who predicted that zombies would be
the big?
The old red book? Yeah, but
it's in the book, isn't it? I probably did zombies.
Yeah. You said Yeah. There was about a year and a half ago, two
years ago, perhaps where you had predicted that zombies are going
to be a big deal. For the next, you know, in the upcoming years.
Yeah, it's gonna be like the magic. Yep. So yeah.
So let's go to last night's report. And then I have one
final one from Canadia because this is a worldwide zombie
problem. You see, we all have to be afraid of the zombies. Erin
Burnett. I mean, I used to be so turned on by her and now she
just rises bile in my throat. She's such a stooge. The
gruesome
face eating attack in Miami could be part of a trend. It's a
trend.
Trend. It's a trend is one story is it all Have a sudden is a
trend what evidence is there for?
What are you going to do after the show John?
I'm gonna go by faith.
I'm gonna bite me some face do ya hear all the all the cool
kids are doing it it's a trend an example
of something larger and much more dangerous. Miami Police say
they've seen similar cases recently of people behaving
strangely and showing what appears to be superhuman
strength
and the superhuman strength thing, which is all part of Brad
Pitt's movie.
Over the weekend really Eugene attacked a 65 year old homeless
man showing off most of his face. Please say it was probably
high on a drug known as bath salts
ah, and we have to warn you that we don't know what it is. Oh
very very graphic images, pictures
and tonight they are disturbing. Police say Eugene was naked that
he was growling like an animal. He was shot and killed by police
when he refused to stop but it took multiple shots. And this is
the to to the head means we've got the growling. We've got the
naked you got the eating flesh, eating face eating eyeballs, and
you and you can't just kill a zombie with one shot. We all
know that. This is in the zombie handbook the CDC warned us about
its Lindy
leading to the descriptions of what seems to be superhuman
strength. From tonight Armando Aguilar, president of the
Miami's fraternal of police to ask you a few questions in a
moment, sir. But first,
let's go to the expert first. Elizabeth
Cohen is here our senior correspondent who has been
looking into the bizarre effects of bath salts and Elizabeth let
me just ask you what what are bath salts if you explain
exactly what they are, what are they in? And can they can they
do things like appeared to happen here where this man was
literally growling, acting like a dog?
Right, Aaron, first of all bath salts have absolutely nothing to
do with the bath. They are not actual bath salts. It's just the
name that they were given. And they're amphetamines, it's often
one of many different.
She's lying again. It's not it's not an amphetamine, it's not an
amphetamine,
once you say it was an amphetamine, they're
amphetamines.
It's one of these people where they come off with this crap
because
they don't want they want you to think of moving
drugs. These are chemicals that people make sometimes in their
own homes. These are man made sort of homemade kind of
recipes. And they're sold sometimes in places like gas
stations, it actually used to be legal because they were these
new chemicals. Yeah,
because it's from 1969. So they have all the information, but
they're lying about it.
Now. They are illegal. Now, not everyone who uses bath salts is
going to have this. This effect. You know, that's obvious, but it
can have this effect. How was that obvious? There's several
reasons. It's the stimulant so it's kind of like meth, for
example. It's kind of like ecstasy. And so several things
are the ones.
It's like ecstasy. It's like meth and ecstasy. How does that
work? Yeah, well, you
know, it's like ecstasy. It's really bad. I mean, how many
people raise your hand if you've taken some E and you ate
someone's face? Ah, oh. Anyway, so that just goes on and on. And
then Canadia comes in. And we just see if I can move this
along a little bit. Oh, that's only it's a short one. Okay.
Just gotta play the Canadian clip CBC
Tom. Amanda, it's a drug few know much about oh,
it's been around since 1969. We know the chemistry, the
chemistry of it. We know all of the code names for it now but
they haven't been or it's been it was taken out of obscurity in
2004. So it's been around for at least eight years in the public
consciousness so how do we know little about it? Because I'm
looking at the wiki page on this stuff and it's got like all
these psychological effects and all the rest of it it's all
listed
Yeah, no, but it's It's The Real News outfit. This guy is great
but
it's it begins to catch on. Officials are racing to learn
more Yeah, what you name
have some YouTube clips of kids who are on on bath salts is
great.
Officials are racing to learn more what you name a bath. This
is the effect of so called bath salts. So is this and this
benign by name deadly by nature until recently a problem We've
only heard about in the US Oh, but it's been creeping into
Canada it's
creeping into Canada is nothing like an alliteration. It's been
creeping in Canada to
to places like New Glasgow Nova Scotia.
I felt like I wanted to kill me or I wanted to kill somebody
else. Were this recovering
addict. We'll call him John. Remember, it's it's wicked grip.
It's a wicked grip. Now he's gonna know the explanation of
what it really is, is coming up. It's a riveting
eight gay straight. With no sleep. That's when you come to
realize the drug. The drugs got you.
Name for its likeness to household bath salts. It's a
synthetic drugs so powerful. It can lead to extraordinary
hallucinations. paranoia, violent behavior and suicide.
This sounds like something I want to take the experts say I
think cocaine times 10 Oh, okay.
Hence the name super coke.
Cocaine times 10 So I really so much lying blatant lying going
on, yet perfect. I mean that I love how they have they've
crossed promoted a World War Z. I think that's brilliant. Brad
Pitt must be just just just
he's opening new bank accounts.
Angelina Jolie is shopping for more kids like, yeah, we can
afford more of these. This is fantastic. It's a bonanza,
absolute bonanza.
All right. Yeah, I think that's enough of that. So yeah. Let's
discuss what's happening to Julian Assange.
Really?
So yeah, because of this clip, Hillary in Sweden. Oh,
can you talk about the significance of Hillary Clinton,
the Secretary of State going to Sweden, it's the first time in a
very long time that a US Secretary of State is going to
Sweden. First it was announced the High Court would be making
its decision today, Glenn. And then Sweden tweeted out that
Hillary Clinton would be coming there on Sunday.
Right. I mean, one of the causes for concern is that there's been
a flurry of activity recently, with FBI agents harassing people
who are alleged to have some communication or contact or
association with WikiLeaks, a French citizen and an Icelandic
citizen, both in the past couple of weeks have been very
aggressively accosted by FBI agents on foreign soil. And now
you have these what looks to be high level meetings between, you
know, the State Department, the Secretary of State and Swedish
officials, you know, there, there really is not much of a
secret that the Obama administration is busting at the
seams to punish Assad. Remember, this is an administration that
has more aggressively than any prior president has punish
people who are government employees who have been
whistleblowers. And yet, here's someone who's not a government
employee who has no duty to, to what to safeguard classified
information. And yet it looks very much like the US government
is eager to get their hands on Julian Assange. And that has
been the concern all along with going to Sweden he has never
been worried about facing these charges, he feels very confident
that he will be ultimately vindicated that there's nothing
to them. I have no opinion one way or the other on that he's
always been willing to face these accusations. The issue has
always been that he's because he's not charged. There's been
this extraordinary and unusual effort to get him onto Swedish
soil. And the fear has always been that that is just a pretext
for turning him over to the United States. Something that
Britain
did I hear as the reports state that Sweden tweeted the content
of tweeting thing, the Sweden the country of Sweden is on
Twitter. Yes, yes. Is it? Is it at Sweden?
I maybe I don't know. I didn't look, look it up. But they I
know they do tweet a lot, just like the State Department
tweets, which is essentially our government tweeting now it's
Lucifer. It's dumb. But anyway, so they so the British courts
decided that it's okay to extradite him even though
there's no real court action in Sweden, there's just a
prosecutor asking for the guy. And so they decided we'll screw
him when he's a pain in the ass. So let's send him over to
Sweden. And everybody knows that Sweden is where they're going
to, they're going to knuckle under and send them to us and
we're going to prosecute them, kind of the way we did Noriega.
And you know, what, the guy's not a US citizen. He's got
nothing to do with us. He's got no obligations to the United
States. He's got his own thing to WikiLeaks, but this is
somehow he's like, you know, we can't drone him. You know, we
can't obvious if we did. Yeah, we could, but I think it's too
obvious
to see he's gonna pick him up. She's gonna go get him in the
plane.
That's what it looks like.
Messages clear? Clip.
Wow, she's gonna go pick them up.
So the, so they, they did watch the case, as it went before this
is whatever they call Supreme Court of UK. And they do have
they're given them 14 days, because apparently, they the
lawyer for Assange. They had all these arguments of why they
can't ship him over there. And then, at the very end, the
rationale by the Chief Justice had nothing to do with anything
that was done in the case. And so they're protesting the, their
conclusions and they want to make they want to make it one
more argument. So they're going to allow them to do that. So
Assange has got 14 days left. Yeah, to enter. He's off to
Sweden and Hillary is there to you know, strong arm the Swedes
and turning him over that should be a real carnival
Should it be fun to watch? Yeah. Come into my airplane. Oops.
Your clothes that we took off, I'm so sorry.
Wow. Anyway, so I ran into a clip. I just thought this was a
weird clip. I don't know what to talk about. I just want to play
the clip. And then maybe something we can discuss in the
future but play the child poverty clip this was on
Democracy Now was a throwaway line. They didn't even say
anything about it. And it's like what
New figures show the US has one of the highest child poverty
rates in the so called developed world. According to UNICEF out
of 35 wealthy countries, only Romania has a higher child
poverty rate than the United States is 23%.
Yeah, so we're number 34. Only Romania is 35. And everybody we
have more child poverty than
what we're number two, baby. We're going oh, yeah, well, you
gotta you gotta reverse the chart. We're going for the
number one spot.
Yeah. When did that happen?
Probably around 1972 was when it started.
Unbelievable. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm so I'm following the Charles
Taylor case to now explain the Charles Taylor case. Charles
Taylor was the head of what's country and he took up the
attack Sierra Leone, like was what it was in Liberia. Liberia,
Charles Taylor was looking to get the details and it wasn't
either blood diamonds guy. Yeah, he's
the Blood Diamond guy. Yeah. We talked about him. Yeah. Liberia,
Liberia. Yeah, he's the head of Liberia. And then he went to
Sierra Leone, chopped off people's arms. And he's a desert
total creep. He's, he's,
he's on bath salts could be.
So there's all these different reports about him. And there's a
good one here, I got two things to play. And then the one a
democracy now dropped in a little tidbit. Maybe you knew
about this, but I sure didn't know about and I find it
peculiar. And again, they just dropped they just drop it in to
drop these bombs on the show. And then and never say anything.
Here's the World Court guy, by the way, condemning him a world
criminal court in this very weird, creepy emotion,
emotionless way. They haven't, you know, standing trial in The
Hague. And the whole thing is like a, it's a very, I mean, I
think this guy's, you know, should have been, you know, he's
a bad guy. And there's no doubt about that. But there's
something creepy about this world court and you play that
little bit.
This betrayal outweighs the distinctions that might
otherwise pertain to the modes of liability discussed above,
and centered,
the judge spoke of a new era of accountability, effectively
saying that because Charles Taylor had been a powerful man
in West Africa, he should have shown more responsibility.
Now, so I really, so I'm thinking how cheesy I mean,
there's, there's
just say something about the International Criminal Court.
Yes. I'd like to receive the dress code, because they got
some badass.
Yeah, it was weird. It looks like a science fiction movie.
Yeah, they got
the well, it's like the High Council. They've got the red
robes and they've got the white beard thing going on. And they
got special stripes and they must have had a meeting.
When a kangaroo court, we're going
to set up this court man, but you know what, you're gonna have
to wear some really cool robes. The dresses we got are
outrageous. They're bitchin.
So, democracy now had a good rundown of this case today. You
have the short clip from it. And there's a little what, in this
clip, I'm shaking my head going. I didn't know that
and President Charles Taylor to 50 years in prison. Following
his a conviction on war crimes during Sierra Leone's Civil War.
Taylor was found guilty last month of overseeing crimes
including murder, rape, conscripting child soldiers in
sexual slavery. He's the first African Head of State to be
found guilty and an international court and the
first head of state to be convicted since the Second World
War. Earlier this year, US officials confirm long held
suspicions Taylor worked for the CIA and other US intelligence
agencies during his emergence as a warlord in the 1980s.
And he was on bath salts. Did you know that? I do know
and go to his wiki page. There's no mention of him working for
the CIA and the whole wiki page or anyplace else I've seen. And
I guess we did somebody along the lines because they've used
it. That's not the kind of mistake they make on that show.
That guy was a CIA guy. Are you kidding me? No, no, no, I'll buy
that immediately. Awesome. Anyway, I just found that they
were just like, we're trying to
see it looks like one guy in the court has a wig.
I think a couple of them do. It's very that wig
that we see wigs in the The ICC Yeah, because it makes it look
so oh no international body declares no wigs zone.
No, it's just hair. No look, they
got wigs on. This one judge of the International Criminal Court
in The Hague has been told lawyers appearing before her may
not wear wigs. All your good buddy. Judges can Oh, no, here
it is. There's no official dress code at the ICC. So they're just
dressing up like, yeah, you can just make up whatever you want.
That's great.
So they go get get they get together amongst themselves and
say, I know what we're gonna wear these crazy rows.
Yeah, man. Let me get I gotta get this one out. Oh, man, the
gold trim is awesome.
Wow.
That's very cool. I didn't know that. This man with a bird's
nest on his head has been falsely introduced as my
counsel. So they said you can make up your own dress kind of
like in the US Army can make up your own the medals you put on
the on your jacket, right? You're gonna have your own code.
If you're a general you can do anything you want your general
but but wigs
are not allowed. It's and it's so subtle. No one ever talks
about this. I'm gonna look into this some more. And it's
interesting. I like dressing. Yeah,
we needed the dress code for the ICC codes
are interesting. Hey, I just want to pass by a couple of
European Union things, no clips, just some some quick little
ditties that we've picked up. European Commission has finally
come out and said it. And they'd like to make this
a bank union
so that banks can bail out each other across state borders or
country borders, but then
anything to keep the Germans from actually stepping up to the
plate, but to actually call it
a bank union I think is pretty interesting. Brussels is now
advising Gitmo nation, lowlands and Netherlands to as a part of
their austerity measures, since it doesn't look like they'll
actually make the 3% to get rid of mortgage interest deduction.
Yeah, that won't screw anybody. Of course, the Greeks now we
have we had a Greek pensioner who hung himself. We had you
know, of course, we had the guy who shot himself now one hung
himself and said, I you know, I can't stand it anymore. So now
they're just they're killing themselves in droves. And the
Greeks are kind of angry about Christine Lagarde, you know, let
them eat cake. Or she said, you know, hey, you stupid Greeks,
you got to pay taxes. And it turns out, she doesn't actually
pay taxes. And this is what I don't understand. She says she
makes about she was about $600,000 a year. That's just her
salary, as reported, because of her diplomatic status. Since
when do you have what since when is the IMF? I mean, how does
that qualify as diplomatic status? That's not a country, is
it? No. So why do you get diplomatic status if you're at
the IMF?
I don't know. Sounds like a scam. Yeah. who agreed to that?
I don't know. And the greatest paid the big bucks that need to
be taxed.
And the Greeks now on mass are complaining about chemtrails.
They haven't seen that story. Oh, yeah.
And there's tons of pictures in the sky. Because of course, I
need to keep them a little calmer. And then the daily Bell
reported this, I thought this was already in place. But
apparently Spain bans cash transactions over 2500 euros.
So I sent a note to Ignacio Garcia, our our guy on the
street and our guy feet on the ground in Spain. And I just
because he sent a note back because I sent him a article
that says that the Spanish may be the first country to bail for
the Eurozone because they have the fallback and he confirmed
most of this. They can fall back to Latin America as their big
connection and do fine because they don't like you know, stuck
with the European centric. You know, they want to be European
centric. And but he did mention a couple of things I want to
read. He says people here that just because I thought this was
interesting, apparently is the government workers that are
screwing things up. They just hired millions of them. He says
we did a spending way too much in cuts that have to be made,
apart from the banks who of course have a huge problem with
their loans going bad. The biggest problem here is enormous
government machine. In Spain, we have four levels of government,
five counting Europe, and all of them have been raising their
salaries and privileges since democracy began. 30 years ago.
For example, in 2007, we had more official cars with
chauffeurs in Spain and all those accounted for in the
United States. Also the highest level outie BMWs and usually say
about waterworks people having huge salaries in small towns
here is not so much salary says up to 50 people doing the same
work as I was doing 20 As I One person was doing 20 years ago.
He goes on and on about this. And just kind of interesting.
And he was more concerned with the irony of the fact that that
Bankia that I will keep saying is going to be broke. Apparently
in the year 2000 says it was the world's one of the world's
greatest banks in the world. World Sure.
What good can you talk about what Garcia does? How does he
How does he Garner this knowledge? Unemployed? Okay,
does he hedge in here as far as I know, okay. Okay. Good guy,
you know if you go to Madrid, absolutely. He'll take you out
and does the bar scene. You get to have some fun. All right, I
think I think we've pretty much shot our wad here.
I know. Do I have anything left on the list? Yeah, you had the
malware thing? Is
this the flame thing? The flame thing there's
a guy was watching the nation's treasure and they had this a
couple of bananas. And Mace was some think tank
right nation's treasure. That's good. That's a new one. The
nation's
treasure, PBS NewsHour. So they had the CIA woman on and she
actually started cringing. She wasn't at the CIA anymore,
supposedly, and she was a bookkeeper for the CIA or
something. She had a crazy position. But this guy who was a
security guy, he just brought this up at the end. And I
thought it was the most interesting of anything, anyone
has said about this malware thing, which makes me wonder
what the point of it is, for one thing, it's a 20 megabyte file.
So it's not like some sneaky little virus. And then he just
he kind of discusses it here.
Absolutely. And so there's definitely research ongoing
right. Now, it may take some time to really unravel this, as
it is a fairly large and sophisticated piece of code.
However, most of the security experts that I've spoken with,
and different people in the community have generally come to
the conclusion. And this may be somewhat flawed at this point,
that this is not actually anything that new. In fact, most
of the capabilities that seem to be within flame we've seen for
over 10 years. In fact, these monitoring capabilities, and the
ability to get keystrokes from a keyboard or turn on the
microphone on a system. We've had those for quite some time.
So in fact, what we're seeing here is unique only in the sense
that it's all bundled into one piece of malware, and that it's
been deliberately put out, again, to specific targets that
really raise some different questions. The malware itself
does not really seem to be that unique Other than that,
all right, I will remind you, Josh Shackleford and Catherine
loterie. Auntie, thank you.
I will remind you that I said, Now this has got to go back a
year and a half ago, I said, the Google is really the virus and
the debt, you know, the capability to listen to turn on
your microphone, turn on your cam, all this stuff. It's all
coming. And here it is. So it's called flame and I'm not quite
what is what, what do you think is the the I mean, there's code
in here somewhere this flame?
I have not figured that out. And I'm wondering if this is
actually a distro as opposed to any real malware? Well, I
haven't read the words. I have
a report that might help us out here,
an extremely powerful computer virus is attacking computers
across the Middle East, but especially in Iran, that news
came today from a Russian security firm. It said the flame
virus can turn computers into spy tools that even pull
information from nearby cell phones. Iran blamed Israel for
another virus attack two years ago, that disrupted part of
Iran's nuclear program. Today, Israel would not confirm or deny
a role in this new attack.
How does that work? How do you pull in information from nearby
cell phones? What
does that know how to do that? Well, and
does it with Bluetooth? Maybe?
No, it turns on your microphone. Yeah. And listens to your talk.
On the cell phone,
so but you have to be on the same network, I guess. No, you'd
be ready yet to be near the microphone. No, no,
but it says that the the flame has installed on your computer,
and then it can activate nearby cell phones. How does that work?
He
doesn't really say that. I mean, it's I think what he's referring
to I don't know. I mean, maybe the Bluetooth does have
something to do with it. But when this thing is decoded, it's
going to be or D what's it called? When you reverse
engineer it is going to just have like all kinds of modules.
It's well yeah, I think it's a destroy I think they sent this
out. So you need modules. We got them all. They're all in here.
I'm thinking it's Google. Now it could be made that makes the
most sense.
Well, to you. Yeah. But
none of
it makes sense.
Well, there's only I'll tell you there's only one program I know
of that can access your hardware in such a manner can store data
large amounts by without, you know, you have to actually say
No, I don't want you to do that. And that's Flash. Flash has has
all that capability built right into it.
And will flash and flame there's your connection. There you go.
Oh,
there you go. I like that. And you know and Flash has been
upgrading a lot recently. If you haven't noticed, we should just
go away. Is there a way to can we? Can we deconstruct flash?
Reverse engineer was the word you're looking for? Thank you
chatroom.
Reverse engineer. I
don't know. Maybe I'm thinking
I'm thinking Flash has something to do with it. Um, I'm not
buying this Israeli bullcrap at all. Not for a second.
But it doesn't surprise me. And you know, and who's got the
time? He's got the time to listen all that bullshit. You
remember, we
had to have one last clip, I want to get out of the way.
Okay, just to bring back the real thing that's going to go on
in the next six months is the money that's going to be pouring
into these media companies. And I didn't realize now it's like a
race. So the amount of money they're going to spend it. I
don't understand what the media companies just don't say, you
know, this is I mean, they just encouraging it, especially with
the report like this
are lining up to put additional unrestricted amounts of money
behind him. Politico reported today that Republicans Super
PACs, and other groups are prepared to spend up to $1
billion on the presidential and congressional races this year,
chief among the spenders, billionaire industrialist,
Charles and David Koch, giving $395 million for political
advocacy. And the pro Romney super PAC Restore Our Future,
planning to spend $100 million on advertising. By contrast,
outside Democratic groups are expected to spend a total of
three to 500 million, only about half of the total of their
Republican counterparts. All of which means that 2012 will
certainly be the most expensive election ever, with both sides
poised to spend $1 billion apiece. Yeah, hey, why
don't you support us with $5 a month? Yeah, we're
gonna play this clip. It's like we can get $5 to some of the
guys listening to our show. But meanwhile, billions, billions of
dollars are being spent on essentially advertising.
Well, we'll keep our eye on everything I'm going to pay a
little closer attention to Adobe looks like the stock is kind of
hovering around a 30 mark right now. I don't watch our news. Oh,
trust those guys. I think that's that's how I would do it. That's
how I do it.
Normal. I mean, have you seen these this little flash error
message that crops up in front of half of the videos because
it's something is trying to access your memory? Have you
gotten that at all? No, I
don't have that one.
I get that on my machine. It shows up. It's like you have to
try to click on it. But it's it's a pet peeve. I'll write
about it. Never be on the show.
Hey, we're gonna do the incline. Is that the end of show clip?
Yeah, I might as well. Okay, that's Ed client on Valerie
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We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on no agenda.
Valerie Jarrett, has a mysterious hold over the
President and the First Lady and has influenced the president to
make some unwise decision. Here's how the president
describes his relationship with senior adviser Valerie Jarrett.
Valerie is one of my oldest friends over time, I think our
relationship evolved to the point where she's like a sibling
to me. I trust her completely. So who is Valerie Jarrett and
why does she have such an influence on President Obama and
Klein is the author of the soon to be number one New York Times
bestseller, The amateur. Barack Obama in the White House. Good
morning. Morning. Nice to have you congratulate here on the
book. Thank you. She has unique power. Somebody working inside
the White
House. We haven't seen anything like this in modern presidential
history. One person who's the best friend of the First Lady,
and the soulmate of the president, who was the last
person to leave the oval office after a meeting, goes upstairs
to the family quarters has dinner with the President goes
on vacation with them has his ear is de facto President of the
United States.
Wow, that is big. Let's talk about her resume. Does she have
the resume to have this job?
No, she doesn't. But what she does have is the trust of
Michelle Obama, number one whom she hired in Chicago. And the
President who uses her as his gatekeeper. She keeps away
people who might come in, and in some way, embarrassed the
President tried to get him to do things that he doesn't want to
do. She she uses the radar, right for the President and the
First Lady,
you refer to in your book you talk about she has also been
responsible for much of the incompetence in amateurism that
had been the hallmarks of Obama's time in office talking
about some of the things, the SEAL Team Six raid that killed
Osama bin Laden, this is
the one time that the President that I know of didn't take her
advice for months, she argued that he should not send a SEAL
team in there, because she was afraid that if it didn't work,
it would be a political disaster for him. He did not take her
advice at one time and things worked out very nicely. And
that's the biggest thing of this administration. They were gonna
hang their hat on health care. But David Axelrod said, Mr.
President, don't do it. And she said,
do it go for broke, you came here to engineer social change
in this country. I mean, she's a very, very liberal person. And
she, for instance, urged him to put that mandate on church
related organizations that were required to give free health
care for contraceptives race was against the advice of Joe Biden,
the Vice President against the advice of Bill Daley, Bill Daley
brought Cardinal Dolan into the Oval Office to try to get the
president to reverse himself. And when Valerie Jarrett heard
that she wants to the president blue or stack, and Bill Daley
was shortly ushered out. Yeah,
more powerful than the cheap them. That's something a lot of
people were curious why on earth, would the President
United States have gone to Copenhagen to push for the
Summer Olympics to go to Chicago? Well, she used to work
for Mayor Daley, the mayor of Chicago, is there a connection,
a big connection? Because if the Olympics had gone to Chicago,
there were billions of dollars that would have been spent on
building Olympic infrastructure. The President did take her
advice did go to Copenhagen. And of course, as we know, he came
back with egg on his face because we didn't get the
Olympics
real quickly. And before you go, the mainstream media has really
ignored the amount of influence this woman for Chicago has over
this administration.
It is quite amazing because she is really ground central zero
ground zero in the White House, and the administration has
followed her advice and the mainstream media has largely
ignored it. No kidding.
All right, well read all about her in the amateur Barack Obama
in the White House.
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