You know, your wheat just isn't complete until you've heard this
programme. It's not complete for me, and I'm pretty sure it's not
complete for my colleague across the ocean either. Once again, it
is time for the programme that has no agenda coming to you from
the curry manor in the United Kingdom on a beautiful August
day. My name is Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak up here in northern California, where I
think we have a competitive day.
Ah, well, you're allowed to. So we might as well start right off
by saying we just spent about, what about 25 minutes trying to
get the setup to work properly?
Actually, 21
I have no idea what happened is all of a sudden the routing was
messed up. And even though you could hear me fine, and the
software could register everything fine. And record I
was hearing like the the back end of a of a reverb plate.
That's how I could hear myself and then you sounded like you
were in the basement with 15 mattresses piled on top of you.
Yeah, I wish. So, here we go. We're good.
But net, but you still have you fix the problem by recruiting by
Re setting every single thing and starting from scratch and
rebuilding the code?
No, not exactly. You
know what happened? You don't know what happened.
I you know, I'm thinking the only thing I can think that
happened because, you know, obviously, I did the same that
you that you suggest that is what did you instal you know,
what have you done this week. And the only thing, the last
thing I can remember installing was the new version of Skype.
But that was before we recorded the last no agenda. And the only
thing I can think of is during this week, I did get a software
update pop up, I clicked it, you know, to in fact, I hid it for a
while, you know, just you can hide applications on the Mac.
And because I didn't want to instal anything. Because you
know, I always want to take a full day and I want to make sure
the software updates, you know that there's no crap because you
hear about that within a week. Usually, there's something you
don't want. So I just left it open. And and. And then I
rebooted because I had this problem. Friday. Yeah, just
before we recorded the daily source code, and I rebooted and
I clicked something and it just worked again, but I did notice
that the what used to be the icon for dot Mac has changed now
to the knee mobile. So maybe the the software update, you know,
suck something in any way and misconfigured or something like
that, because I went to rebuild all the connections between the
software in the virtual routing device, and it worked. Who
knows?
Yeah, yeah, that's probably what it was. I mean, that's the
problem. Me I've had that happen to me. I think a lot of users
that fact they, you know, something's, you know, they had
their regular piece of software stops working. And they think
it's something they did, and in fact, it's some upgrade, or it's
something else that was installed. And it's produced
worse on Windows because of all these DLLs that are swapped in
and out. Yeah,
that does. That sucks in credit. I've had that happen so many
times on Windows, and I gotta I gotta hand it to Mac once again,
even if this is a an apple thing where they're downloading
software, installing something, it's still it's still pretty
frickin easy. It does kind of work.
Yeah, well, the PCs kind of work to I'm not like, you know, it's
not like they don't work. And they have to have a lot more
stuff.
Well, no, that's not true. They have a lot more stuff. That's
not true anymore. Yeah, no, it's still true. No, it's not true.
There's plenty of stuff for Mac's you can get any all the
stuff you want.
You can get all the stuff you want but there's not as much
will you give me an example of
something you have that you can't get on the Mac?
No, you can get everything on the Mac that you can get on the
PC but there's more of it on the PC. I was looking for a
converter for a flash to avi thing and there's like 1000s of
them.
The volume okay, but you also have to wade through 1000s more
that are just crap or instal spyware or I didn't say that's
not the case. But that is true. I've had that happen when you'd
like you want one little simple app and you do a search and you
get 1000s of results and it's all like kind of the same app
and then they're trying to sell you something else and it
doesn't really work and I hate that. But ya
know, my favourite thing is the guys. It's like it is the same
app it's these guys with different websites. And they
just reached they just changed the name a little bit the
programme and the end those by the way those programmes never
work.
Now are totally garbage or not as advertised.
It's getting more and more difficult to find stuff
effortlessly. Because of these guises to begin with the cell
phone providers the mobile phone people for you Europeans. When
you started look for like dummy type go to Google and type in
best cell phone programme do something like that. Say you
wanted to find like I wanted I want to find for example
comparison between Verizon AT and T singular or salmon Europe
orange and Vodafone. All right. I want to know what the best
system the best programme is the best system with the best
coverage and the best price.
Forget that oh, yeah, I know what you mean, there's so many
so many sites that are doing that.
It's not possible because of all these these guys that have
flooded the web with these sites that just want to sell you a
phone and they have phoney number. I mean, it's just
unbelievable. Well, it's a search engine. Yeah, it's
kind of that way with Symbian. That's the operating system that
Nokia uses. Because I have the new e 71. I was looking for a
couple apps. And I, you know, and just a couple of simple
basic things. And before you find a site that actually is
just good, you know, and lets you download simply, you don't
have to fill out a million forms every single time it takes a
while. And you want to bookmark it once you get one of those
sites.
Yeah, absolutely. And the other thing, you know, in fact, I got
it found a couple of interesting sites recently, like that, I'll
put them on, I have the dvorak.org/home.html. htm page,
which links to some of these sites, but I actually have to
upgrade the one for downloading software. But the other thing is
talking about jumping through hoops. I also hate in some of
the more traditional sites that we've had before that have the
downloads. Now it's like you go to them. And it's like, it's
like a confused mess. And it says, Do you want to download
now? Or do you want to do this? You want to do that? And then
you say, Yeah, I want to download for God's sake, what do
you think I'm here for you click on it takes you to another page
with a bunch of bull on it that you need to wade through and
then the download button to someplace buried and you find it
you click on it takes you to another page as well, which
server Do you want to use? And then you have a laundry list of
servers? And then you Yeah, I mean, come on. If you're looking
for software, what's what's the first site you go to? I'm sure
you don't do Google, I'm sure you go to a site. If you're
looking for some Windows software, where do you go to
first?
Well, on my home that I well, I used to use two cows mostly. But
they've gotten they've made their lives complicated.
There's, there's a new site for, like free load or something like
that. I've got about five of them that I go to
I've kind of stuck with, well, from the Mac, it came from
version tracker, and they have Windows Windows tracker as well,
I find that to be a pretty good service.
Okay, well, actually, I'm gonna have to upgrade my little my
listing on that page. I mentioned home that htm to do
listing versus free software that I'm going to have to go in
there and go through all those specific sites. And I'm going to
find two or three new ones and put them up there. For the
public. I mean, it's at least it helps a little.
So I had a fun experience. Yes. Oh, wait,
wait, wait, wait, before you say that. Anybody out there who has
a great one site for mobile phone apps? Send me an email.
Okay. I'll send you a couple emails.
You can always call. So you were doing what
I owe something interesting happened yesterday. You know, I
use that site dropped out IO where people can upload links
and find
email and Twitter messages about your Mac.
No, it wasn't that I was hacked. But you know, so I'm in contact
with these guys. And they're kind of like an alpha. They've
gotten, you know, I think they got a couple million dollars in
funding. And I'm really a big fan of what they're doing. And I
love this service. I mean, I frickin love it. And so they
send me a little notice that, oh, we added a new future
feature, which you really like is every single time something's
posted, you can have it send out a little alert with a link on
your Twitter. I'm like, Yeah, that's kind of cool, because I
haven't been doing much twittering lately. And if I do
it, then you know, it's usually a link to something. So why not
automatically have a generator link in a little tweet message
when something's uploaded. So I read
this already sounds.
So I'm like, okay, so I hook it all up, I'm ready to go. And
here's my mistake, right? The mistake is I do a test message
from so I post a note onto my drop.io/daily source code. And I
say, hello, world testing, this should now appear on Twitter.
And that was the stupidest thing I could have done. Because of
course, you know, six and a half 1000 People saw this and you got
to figure at least a fraction is saying, Oh, let me go over there
and see if it works. So then everyone started posting notes
and shit, which and of course, it came through as me. It was
like, wow, what the what a mistake. That was. That was
pretty dumb. bonehead move. Yeah, that was a real bone. But
the idea is great. I only lost like 150 people over it. I feel
bad. It was like, Oh, of course. This is not so smart. Because
Oh, well.
Yeah, that's not auto posting to things like Twitter. Yeah. But
you know, the great thing about Twitter that I like is the it's
different than a blog because it's more of a push or push
technology, mainly because with a blog. And you know, even
though they call it micro blogging, it's not really
blogging. It's a different mechanism with blogs, people
have to go overtly. Go to the blog. I mean, they can subscribe
to the RSS feed and it maybe it makes it a little but very few
people subscribe to blog RSS feed I
do I subscribe to tonnes of them. Well, I'm one of the few.
Okay. I mean, just a suggestion to six, you should know,
I don't think. I don't think that that many people do. I mean
a lot of people do. But I mean, we have like 30,000 to 40,000
people visit the blog a day. And I think maybe we may have out of
that we may have 5000 people on top of that, that it goes
subscribing to RSS, and that's, you know, it's not half, let's
put it that way. But with Twitter, you know, you're
getting the tweets come through. And this, the number of
followers that you have, usually doesn't go down. I mean, in your
case, maybe because of your bumbling. But generally
speaking, although mine You know, every once awhile, I see a
tick down one because some guys fed up with me. But generally
speaking, you get groups that stays there, or they keep
getting the stuff, although they may even abandon the service,
which I think is probably more likely to happen with Twitter.
So it's a different kind of a mechanism because you don't have
to actually go to the blog. The blog comes to you exactly. Know
what the point of that
was. But I don't know, what are you trying to say?
No, what, now that you mentioned it that probably didn't have
nearly Yeah.
So there's actually, as I was not listening to what you were
saying. I was searching around for this link that I had on the
on the drop, there was an executive order was pushed
through yesterday, which I'm just trying to. I'm hoping you
heard of this, which allows basically, we now have a
national security guy who sits on top of the CIA, the NSA, the
FBI, and it's all consolidated. Intel, it
has been going on for a while they've been trying to get this
guy
here. This has happened this Mike McConnell guy, I think his
name is said who it is. Yeah, let me just check because
apparently was in the actual executive orders pretty scary,
as in all kinds of all kinds of powers at home in the homeland
in the hinterland. Hello,
yeah, no, you know, the way I when I every time I see one of
these things happen, it's just seems to me to be adding. I
mean, I thought the Republicans were chosen to make government
smaller, this just as essentially just adds another
layer of bureaucracy, because you know, for a fact that this
guy who's the Uber guy is going to have to have a huge staff,
and those tools, you know, so they can all coordinate a net
staff is going to be staffed, and they're going to end up with
a big, you know, one another layer of government that's
probably going to consist of two or 300 people that are just
looking at the other agencies. I mean, it's ridiculous.
It's not just, it frightens me, because this sounds like, it's
almost like they're gearing up for something, you know, it's
like they're just getting ready. And also, it was, I just can't
find all these links. I thought I Oh, maybe it's in a different
place. Hold on. There also. So now also, that can be government
and private companies who now at the executive order, we'll be
taking care of our security at home. Yeah, Blackwater. Exactly.
Exactly. You laugh. It's not that funny, dude.
Well, I think a lot of it is just a money grab. I don't think
there's that much. I mean, I know what they're gonna do. Oh,
you know, they're setting up FEMA setting up concentrate.
Yeah,
exactly. Um, right. There were detention camps. Yes, indeed.
Well, the one thing you cannot deny, Mr. Dvorak, the financial
system in the United States is about to end. You can't deny
that it's about to end.
I mean, you know, if we were sitting here having this chat in
around 1885, I could see the conversation going exactly being
almost identical. Right, what happened? And by the way, we
could also have the conversation around 18 You know, when eight
when when the civil war broke out in 1860 ish. The the
government the despite the fact that the coffers were filled
with money earlier, they had gold
John, there was actual gold involved. Yes, that's the big
difference that caught
the US government was after the Buchanan administration was
bankrupt. There was no money in the secretary they gave all them
the this Buchanan guy gave all the money to the southern states
in you know, in in advance of the Civil War. And there was no
money. In fact, the Civil War from the northern perspective
had to be financed by Wall Street, which is how Wall Street
became as big as I mean, began the march of Wall Street toward
running everything right and essentially there's a number of
books written about it about how you know Wall Street banked the
Civil War to keep the you know the keep the country together
but John is paranoid conversation happening back then
keep it there's a couple of big variables A we're totally
dependent upon oil for everything we do everything we
do on our life, which oh by the way is pretty good
way man, I gotta have my glass of oil here to drink. Hold on.
There we go. Oh, yeah, well, what's your computer made up?
Dude, any plastic in there? I use a wooden computer
with stolen hard drive. Dammit. It's solid state. Now. So
there's a huge variable in there of oil of the dollar being the
currency of oil. You know, that's, you know, where are we
at war in the we were about to go to war, but we hadn't been
fighting a war for five years, which has been bleeding us dry.
There was actual gold and yeah, it was still even though it was
in the southern states the money was still in the country. You're
now it's all in China. China's that's I figured it out man.
China is sitting there. Listen, China's sitting on trillions of
dollars they're saying Holy crap, this shit isn't worthless.
Let's go buy oil so they're just like buying oils like
stockpiling this shit as much as they can to get rid of these
dollars. And we you know about the big the this this is? This
is a great a great theory. You know about the secret meeting of
the house that happened last year came weird or by the way I
know I know. My wife was actually looking up the the term
schizophrenic the other day. Yeah. Christina told me she said
Hey, Mom and I were looking at schizophrenic on the computer
said why is it because mom's afraid you might be one. To no
kidding. Is it? Absolutely. I copped to it Guilty as charged.
I'm completely schizophrenic. Yeah, maybe you think I'm
growing weirder. And and maybe I am? Or maybe I'm just seeing
what's going on, John? Yes, I'm way into this shit. Okay, we'll
go on with what you discovered. Okay. Really, I've been focusing
on my attention around the finances. That's the main thing.
I mean, look, look at what's going on. Fannie Mae, Freddie
Mac, completely. Now subsidised by the taxpaying American
completely. with seemingly no limit, they just so Monday's is
a huge earnings day. So we're going to find out how
everything's going. But I guarantee you, it's not going to
be too great. We have to the oil is still at 100 and 120 plus
dollars, where everyone is bankrupt, the banks are
literally bankrupt. We had another bank failure, the Bank
of Florida failed yesterday. Now taken over by the FDIC, there is
no gold to back anything up. There's all kinds of Hanky Panky
going on between the central banks now. The European Central
Bank has also opened up 50 Or has extended their $50 billion
line to $55 billion for to support the Federal Reserve
there's all kinds of shady shit going on. And I just think that
the the money part is absolutely happening the money the dollar
is just is about to fall down. I just don't see how it how it can
go any other way what what possibly can prop up the value
of this
oil prices can fall and the the international money traders can
start pumping the dollar back to where it belongs. It's all done
by these by these traders. The whole thing's us
so take me through it. So oil prices for let's say they have
control over that which I believe so oil prices fall to
let's just make it really easy John $50 a barrel. That'd be
nice. What's going to happen to the dollar then and why
I think the dollar is going to go up because it's just it's
almost like a teeter totter. The dollar should go up the other
way. And because essentially, when you have cheap energy you
have your cost of production goes down and makes everything
that makes it makes the base value of the country higher
because your cost of energy, in other words, is a net gain. I
mean when you have to pay more to manufacture something,
because of the cost of oil. If the cost of oil goes down it did
though the profit goes up. And so be everything because the
numbers all change the the the the the financials all change
the the profits go up, the stocks go up.
All right, gotcha. So here we are toilets. Now. By
the way, by the way, when things start to heat up, which they
have to do if their oil prices finally dropped to where they
belong, then the Fed has to raise interest rates a little
bit and when you raise interest rates that make makes everything
more attractive to outside investors. Here's because they
want high interest rate on that point and the dollar goes up. So
the point, but that's another point. So right now, the
interest rate in the US is at 2%. The interest rate in Europe
is four point 25%. The interest rate in the UK is 5%. Yeah, so
that means there's a tremendous outflow of money right now, from
the US going into the UK, I presume you're some of Europe,
but a lot of UK.
That would be a logical thing to assume. Right? Which, of course,
it's just, you know, a lot of it's just, you know, alright, so
computer,
I got something. Yes, it is. It's all well, none of its
actual money. That's the beauty of it. So oil is now back up to
$125. And that's, as of yesterday, closing yesterday.
That's the end, by the way, your $200 things not going to happen.
Well, I spoke to my friend at Halliburton yesterday at a
subsidiary of Halliburton, and I said, Could you please tell me,
what does it actually cost to get the oil, one barrel of oil
out of the ground? And he said, I'll give you four prices. Why
Actually, I'll give you two prices. And I'm going to tell
you what it is today. He said, so a couple of years ago, it
cost $2 A barrel to get it out of a desert. It cost about $20 a
barrel to get it out of water. So out of the North Sea toe. He
says now, he said I can't give you the exact prices of what it
costs to take the money out. But he says that the Reese, the
problem within the oil industry is that there is there are no
resources, they can't get enough people. He gave me an example of
a Derrick, you know, a crane they use that three years ago
would have cost $100,000 A day. He says today, it is almost $5
million a day to hire the exact same Derrick crane that only
cost 100 grand a couple of years ago, there was a and then he
says that's because of the demand of China. China just
wants all the oil they can get. And he says that they're
stockpiling and therefore throwing the dollar back, and
we're getting fucked. I know, John, I can feel it.
You can, you know, they can only stockpile so much. There's only
so many 10 Unless they make the whole country a tank farm where
they
got those freighters circling around, you know, there's lots
of failures out there killed with ships fast at some point.
And there's also a shortage of ships.
Yes, because they're all filled up with oil floating around, but
these things are full. This thing is about to blow. I'm
telling you, this collapse is gonna be huge. And it there's
going to be all this people running around, they're waving
their arms in a circle. And they're going to be oh my god,
what the hell happened? How did this happen? What how come do we
weren't told this was gonna happen? You know, and all this
kind of thing because it's like going to happen so quick. You
know, these collapses do that's a bubble. It's just obvious,
okay.
Okay. So now we'll shift back back to the financial system.
We're now the subprime mortgages, these banks have
raised money. And it turns out the money they raised wasn't
even enough to cover the losses that now reporting and now the
prime mortgages, people are walking away, there's reports
everywhere, of, you know, prime mortgage rates, which are prime
mortgages, which are supposed to be like, good. Now, people are
defaulting on those. I mean, it just seems like we're in a
meltdown.
You know, I'm just telling people, here's the deal, the way
I see it, okay. We have a pop up public, especially here in
California, that couldn't get a house like 10 years ago, five
years ago, even just a few years ago. And now we have this market
collapsing. And so now the prices are down. They're off
typically 20%. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot more. No, they can't be
a lot more because there's a there's a population issue here
and a shortage and if you take a look at the housing starts,
there's none. The housing start chart is done. There's nobody
building anything new, and that people are having babies. People
are getting older. There is a demographic shift toward
California. There's no question that there's going to be a
shortfall of places to live, most people are renting or
whatever. Meanwhile, these are the same people that bitched and
moaned and groaned, and they do have incomes, that they couldn't
get a place and they had to get in line and your bed people were
buying over what the offering price was, there was like an
auction system going on here in California where you'd put your
house up for $700,000 and sell it for 900 or you put your house
up for 1.2 instal it fried 1.4 Now, it's like you put up for
1.2 and you're lucky to get 800 But there's no buyers will you
know this is the typical herd mentality out here. It seems to
me that
there's no one looking to get a mortgage no one can get a
mortgage anymore. No one's writing out mortgages. John, you
can't get a mortgage today.
Doesn't that seem like the whole thing's kind of rigged in some
way shape or form for some odd reason? Yeah,
it's really Well, if it's rigged, then we're gonna pay for
it regardless because we're just printing money to bail out banks
left and right.
I'm just saying people shouldn't be scrounge. I mean, there's
whether or not you Yeah, okay, there is a problem getting the
money from these guys, because they've been, you know, throwing
it away, and now they won't give you any. And now the prices are
good. But it seems to me that you can find a way to get some
money, or at least do something to get into some of these cheap
houses, which a lot of them are being you know, there's some
real good deals out here.
All right, so first of all, the same is happening here. And, and
Patricia and I went looking for a house the other day, and we
had Realtors literally come out of their of their stores. You
know, here in the UK, on the high street, they have like 15
Realtors on every corner. And they were actually looking,
we're just browsing in the window and they come out,
they're like, oh, whoa, it's just around the corner here.
I've got the keys, and
the guys negotiate nightclubs. And
then the ladies like, we haven't even we're halfway between their
place and, and the house we're going to look at and she's like,
Oh, you can take 25% off the asking price right off the top.
We haven't even looked at the place yet. And she's already
knocking it down. It was amazing. So have you ever heard
of Lyndon LaRouche?
Oh, well, everybody knows Lyndon LaRouche.
Yes. What is his background?
Lyndon LaRouche is like a
He's an economist. It's hard to
say he's, you know, he's like he used to he ran for president a
couple of times. And there's again, he has a bunch of
characters who are his followers that some of them get a lot of
ink. In fact, I've linked to one of them on my blog recently,
because it's something he was doing. He is kind he we don't
know whether he's a Nazi or libertarian or communist. I
mean, his his politics are skewed. He's very much into your
way of thinking. Yes, as a conspiracy is is a crackpot shit
going on. And he has a lot of good stories to tell. But it's
the but he's got that he's got that demeanour of a guy who
won't let anyone get a word in edgewise. Won't go back and
forth with questions and answers. He's just a lecturer
and there's a button. Oh, most of the people from his camp are
that way. Now that said, there are funny group. I mean, they're
I mean, I love reading their stuff. There's always something
in there. That's kind of interesting, but there's always
you know, but it tends to be written in a propagandistic
style, which always makes me suspicious. So what I'd
appreciate
you doing is, if you have any time over the weekend, he's he
did a an international webcast from Washington, DC on July 22.
Where and it's funny you say that, because he also came
across at times, to me is somewhat anti semitic, certainly
anti British, which was funny. He but he did have a couple of
interesting things to say about George Soros, which I learned a
lot about, and how he fits into the global financial picture.
But anyway, he did this webcast, which is about 3540 minutes. And
then actually he answers about 10 questions. We're not going to
say he actually answers every question. He goes into a little
soliloquy, as he's answering each one. But it was really
interesting. And, and well, basically, he's saying, it's
over. It's done. Forget it, the dollar, the dollar is going to
zero. So here's his theory,
is going to zero. Like that. Here's the this is the mistake.
He
didn't say he didn't say literally the dollar is going to
zero. He didn't say that's that's my paraphrasing. If he
says the dollar is going to collapse, he said, and then
we're gonna go straight into it. Of course, here comes the
America and the North American Union, and then we'll have
electronic money. We won't actually have paper money
anymore.
Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well,
I'm just I'm just saying John. Just sayin. So you don't think
it's gonna be all that bad? It's all I think the dollar has
already collapsed. That's the point. Yes. Well, it's been
collapsing for the whole system's been collapsing for 25
years, and
now it's bottoming out. I mean, you know, these things don't go
on to you know, people think that when things are going well,
like the market is going up, it's going up, it's going up,
it's going to go to infinity. It never does. It goes in Whoa, it
craps out and when things are going down, especially when it's
near the bottom they think is going to keep going down when
it's obviously bottoming out I had a friend of mine who's a
stockbroker who you know is actually owns a brokerage and
he's gone and singing the blues to me and he's going on and on
about how horrible things are getting in they're horrible in
the band. He's you know, the same stuff you're saying and I'm
thinking this guy's like in the business and then so I think is
bottoming I said and he said no, here's this any everything he
described to me sounds like a bottom. It was like, you know,
the, all the banks that you know that all these banks are busted,
Fannie Mae V everything. What, after Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
and all the rest of them go, you know, into receivership or
whatever. Well, no, it's done.
Something there is no receivership. Just keep printing
the money, which every single dollar in print is devaluing
them.
So they're going to be knocking on the door. Devorah give us
your money. No, there's no bad is gonna be
no, what's gonna happen, John is this is all going to come down
right at the moment that once again, I'm coming to San
Francisco. And not only are they going to take my laptop from me,
they're going to throw me in the fucking jail. And they're going
to throw me in one of these goddamn camps they've been
building. And you'll never hear from me again. Yeah, that's the
problem.
Well, let me make a note.
Thanks, buddy. My, my pal. So here's a hurry man. heard from
him. He's a good man. Getting waterboarded. Listen. So this is
obviously an intelligent guy. You're telling you're telling me
you? I mean, you haven't been in his business necessarily. Wait,
who owns a brokerage?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, he's like the rest of these
guys. When you're in it, you know, every you know. So if
you're a foot doctor, all everything you see is a foot. So
it's like, you know, there's all this thing is as bad stuff,
anything is going to be nothing just getting get worse. But
that's, you know, it's like a typical momentum guy, which is,
you know, brokers tend to be if things are going well, they're
gonna go well, forever, things are going bad. They're gonna get
worse. I mean, that's all I'm I just think I think you're over.
I think we're at the bottom, I think I think you're
oversimplifying, I think you're oversimplifying one thing. And
that is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have an open door to
the printing press, that you just can't deny its
fundamentals. If you keep on propping up those two, you know,
$5 trillion debt companies, you know, with with money, that
you're essentially printing it that just devalues the dollar
even more, am I wrong?
It's that amount of money that you just mentioned is a spit in
the bucket. In terms of the weight, you know, making the
dollar move one way or the other. It's not that much.
Really. Me if it was do 10 trillion? Yeah, I'd say well,
okay, five and 10. A big deal. So, look, essentially, here's,
here's how it went down. This is not the American government.
What the American government did hear me out is very much what
Enron did. They had all basically they have all these
off book transactions. And Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are
off book, they're not on the on the United's or they weren't on
the US books. It wasn't a liability or an asset, but they
were kind of implicitly guaranteed. And now that's come
to fruition something no one would thought would ever really
happen. And that means that we have to continue to prop these
companies up. And so you know, 5 million 10 million if 10 million
does move the needle, but 5 million doesn't mean it's going
to move the needle somewhat. It's got to make a difference.
I don't know.
Yes. See,
I think it's all right. I think we're all I think it's all been
taken. I think it's all been taken to account, I'm really
convinced. It's I think if the stock market hits 10,000, that's
the absolute bottom. That would be nice. If it did, because
that's what I'd been hoping it would do. That would be the
absolute bottom. And from there, that thing is going to
skyrocket. I'm telling you, we're gonna we got a boom, a
boom, boom times ahead. It better be I mean, that's what my
whole book thesis is based on. boom times ahead. But not for
long, but I'm just
so you're the only guy so 2012 Is your boom time. Is that Is
that what No, no, no, no,
we're in a full blown depression in 2012. You know, next year, I
think we're going to have a pretty pretty solid. Okay,
so how about the US auto manufacturing companies who just
reported 15 and a half billion dollars of losses we already
have, you know, really high unemployment that's going to put
another 100,000 people into an unemployment when these
companies failed make cars. That's the bottom when people
have no money. The gas prices are three and a half to four
bucks.
Not the food. It's not the top Oh, it's
definitely not the top but I mean, the bottom that's like
disaster, John, I mean, and then how do you climb out of that?
What do we do? We don't make anything except war stuff.
Well, I guess we can make more
we can make more war stuff. Exactly. Exactly. Make Well, i
By the way, I think we could we could totally use that war stuff
to do other cool things with me. You know, well, we can make
airlines are going out of business every single day, John.
They're literally going you know, the president of KLM said
this week, he said, Oh, you know if Martin air doesn't get
bought, they're gonna go bankrupt.
Yeah, well, there's too many airlines out there anyway. Ah,
how many airlines do you need?
Dude, there's a lot of people travelling and this is a lot. A
lot of the economy depends upon that, particularly in a in a
continent like Europe where you know, we do business in
different countries all the time. I
get on the train. So not to change the subject. But I was
thinking about this public transportation in the United
States. So I wanted to take a train from the Bay Area to
Seattle. Yeah, you know, yeah, I'm listening. Now, here's what
I saw I. So I can drive to Seattle, from San Francisco, and
it takes about 14 hours. And it cost maybe about 150 bucks in
gas, depending, maybe a little more, maybe. Now, I could take
the train to Seattle. And it takes 24 hours. Wow. Now, it
seems to me that public transit and is cost more. Yeah. And I've
been noticing that most public transportation, people moan and
groan, all public transportation, as you know, be
sure we need to put more of it in and we need to do this, we
need to do that. How about making the ones that we already
have in somewhat efficient, I made the calculation on the
Amtrak train from the Emeryville or Oakland station to Seattle.
And based on the amount of time it takes from get from here to
there, when it stops every so often, it goes 39 miles an hour.
Right? This is an amp, this is a, you know, a passenger train.
If it went twice as fast or eight or averaged 80 miles an
hour, it would get there in 12 hours, which beat the car
probably cost the same amount of money. And you'd have a very
interesting business case for leaving on a red eye or going to
gun asleep or car at 10 at night, and getting into Seattle
at 930 or 10. In the morning, right? Pricing fresh, yeah.
Refreshing to ready to do business, as opposed to jumping
on if you had to do a 10 o'clock meeting in Seattle from San
Francisco, you have to get on a 730 flight. Actually, when you
make it you have to get on a 630 flight. You'd be up there about
830 And then you'd be in Seattle from the airport around 915
Maybe nine and but you'd be all beat up. Yeah, and but you know,
it's like
so the reason why that doesn't happen, John is because all
these commercial companies have this privatised transportation
they're also all leverages out their ass they've also played
the game they got no money to invest in this shit. Nor do they
care.
Boy, you're a pill today.
I am I really am. It's the schizophrenic side is coming
out.
I don't think so. The others you're getting this all the
time. And then guess what people don't get
well you know I because I worry about this stuff. John. I really
do all you I guess because the crazy shit but I know it. You
know, I really don't give a shit. Although I am I have
ordered gold. I want I want to physically I want some bars of
gold. Dammit.
I want to hold on to them. What do you pay in an ounce for it
right now?
I don't know. What is it? 900 bucks. I'm
like, That's too high. Anyway, so. All right, what else we want
to talk about? I don't want to bore people. So for the arm a
half baked economic philosophies.
You call them half baked? Okay.
We don't know what we're talking about. I mean, I do. Just
because I get nine miles an hour. I made the calculation.
Right. Okay. And all I'm saying
is because these companies, of course, you're right. Of course.
You're right. I mean, we've got trains that go 300 miles an
hour. Yeah, that's yeah, that's good. Yeah, but you know,
there's no money to put that
in our 300 mile an hour train. The thing is, they you know,
they want to do a high speed train from San Francisco to Los
Angeles. And now they're gonna, you know, they have all these
initiatives. The problem is there's a huge mountain in
between San Francisco and Los Angeles on the other side of the
San Fernando Valley. It's a huge it snows down there on this
mountain. It's a mountain that most of our mountains go up and
down, you know, longitudinally, or Yeah, up and down, you know,
like north south, and this is an East West bunch of hills that
called the grapevine and it's a it's a you got to drive over as
it's so painful and there's no way they can get a train a high
speed train to shoot over the top and then I can drill a hole
through it so that the high speed train to LA is not going
to happen, let's say get they might be able to skirt skirt,
the Coast may be wet, whatever. The point is, is that there is
there's not as much of an issue going, although there is no
there is kind of in Oregon, there's a couple of hills.
Anyway, I just want to
aeroplanes are so beautiful man because they do get you there.
No mountains,
you know, a 300 mile an hour train has its appeal. You go to
the train and Pete You know, you get people who don't go to
Europe much the listeners on this side of the water and you
know, they don't and they haven't been on these trains. I
mean, you go to another you have to there's two things you have
to understand when the trains aren't always going 300 miles an
hour. In fact, they clunk a little along a lot at low
speeds. And then they hit the tract and they hit turn it up
but These trains are more convenient in width if you're
doing a trip that's less than, like, say a couple 100 miles.
Yeah.
But they're but they are great. I mean, the train down to
Brussels as an example is fantastic.
Yeah. And they can you know, they have a speedometer up on
the wall you can look at Excel faster go and it's kind of fun.
And the problem I have with the high speed trains in Europe is
that because they're on there's dedicated tracks when they're
going at high speeds, the tracks are tend to be buried in a gully
and so you can't you don't get a view of anything. Especially the
ones in France that you take the train there's
there's literally walls on each side, I think, isn't it like
cement walls or something?
In a lot of situations? There aren't because it keeps people
from getting cows I guess from going
from getting sucked in? Yeah, one of those Yeah, right. One of
those fuckers goes by man you know, you're gonna get sucked
along.
So the so you go to from Port Paris to Bordeaux and a high
speed train. Yeah, doesn't take very long. But it's like you
don't see anything. It's like the boring is right ever.
I don't think I've seen see video.
I think some of them do. I don't remember that. Yeah,
they should. Well, I
mean, you know, I don't remember what I don't remember seeing
just
turn on the Hypno box man. Like that makes everyone
but the point is, is that the regular actually the regular old
trains to fit the trains don't go as fast, but they still do
100 plus miles an hour. are better, more fun. This is like
looking out the window.
There's a video somewhere of some kid on YouTube, I should
find that again. And he actually hitches a ride on the back of
one of these bullet trains. And he has like these, you know, the
suction cups. They used to carry big panes of glass. Yeah, so he
uses the opening the both of them he has to when he suction
himself onto the back of one of these bullet trains and he rides
long. It's got a helmet cam on. It's this he was like terminally
ill I think and so he wanted to do something cool before he
died. To kill himself. Well, no, he didn't. He didn't kill
himself. The result was the same except we got a great YouTube
video out of it.
Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, I'll just dig that one. I
forgot the guy's name. Yeah,
I'll send you a link I'll find it for you do what did they did
arrest the guy afterwards or they didn't even notice.
They didn't arrest him. Not that I know. He was he was pretty
well known for it. Maybe, aren't you?
I seems to me seems to me that he's getting a ride for free.
They should at least charge him that fair.
Let's see bullet train. BRUNO the kid
I can't remember what it was one of those. It was it was a Europe
one of the fast trains they're
like yeah, Germany, Germany, Germany's bullet train, I think
that says, Yeah,
that's the end of their continent, or whatever
it is. Before he died from leukaemia, the train writer
enjoy the last year of his life by surfing on trains, including
Germany's fastest High Street high speed train ice, with a top
speed of 330 kilometres per hour.
That's a nice train. By the way. I've been on the ice a couple of
times. And it's, in fact, if you go to the sea bit show, most
people stay out of town and it's always takes us about an hour to
get into the Hanover. And the smart money stays in Hamburg,
which is actually the furthest away. But there is a one hour
ice train that runs from hand up from Hamburg and stops at the
show. Which and it leaves like every 20 minutes.
You notice how today you're telling the people who are
listening to this show? You're telling them all about European
stuff, and I'm telling them all about American stuff. You're
trying to you're trying to deflect yourself. You're trying
to deflect the attention away from the failing United States
of America. You just think you just think I'm a kook do you why
I got
my god right here. I got my orders okay, it's your it says
okay, this week John, you are required to talk mostly about
your take the take the emphasis right here take the emphasis off
the troubles here in the US who sent this in? And then it has
about three or four other little dip talking points. And then
this came you know, this comes in by by a special red Lane
facts, which is something that you know, not too many people
know about.
It's your official talking points. Here's what we're doing,
guys. Oh, man, did you if you've been following that story about
the anthrax guy.
Oh, that's that's a really interesting story. I
love stories like that. Yeah. So this this. This is the guy who
was he was about to be accused of being involved with the
anthrax at the anthrax letters that were sent out after 911
although he'd already been acquitted of of that charge and
have been paid $5 million in damage.
Oh, no, no, no, that's no, no, that's the that was another guy
that that they actually named publicly as a person of interest
and it ruined his reputation. He's the one. Oh, it's
a different guy.
Yeah, there's a different guy.
Okay, so then we're gonna get this guy who, by the way, was in
the government. I mean, at the end of the day, it's coming from
the government if it came from him. And there was an article
Friday in the LA Times, I believe, where he said, Oh,
yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be indicted or, and
then he kills himself. Yeah, he suicides himself. He was
suicided. Yeah, with Tylenol, Tylenol and codeine, please.
massive quantities. He is a guy who knows how to put anthrax
together, and he's going to kill himself. And let me think what's
the best way? Oh, I'm going to eat 15 bottles of Tylenol.
Right. And if I don't kill myself, then I'm going to be in
dialysis for the rest of my life.
I mean, really? That makes that's well Yeah, way to go
really credible suicide.
Yeah, that was Yeah. Well, the other thing about that if you're
gonna, if you were if it was an assassination,
which, of course is what we all presume?
Well, we do. Being the nutballs that we are.
I'm glad you're on this one with me, John. That's cool. Oh, yeah,
absolutely. The pleasure though.
This one has, you know, crackpot
CIA all over it, doesn't it? So.
So the guy, it seems to me that the guy would have like been
shot himself in the head with a slip to suicide note. And it
would have been set up better if it was done professionally. So
I'm a little leery about, I think it was probably it may
have been done by a co worker. Or maybe maybe the guy did kill
it. I don't know.
It was massive. It was Cory Malik massive quantities of
Tylenol. I mean, that's not someone doesn't just kill you
with that, you know,
it doesn't make sense. Of course. Now, of course, of
course, it could have been the the autopsy could have been
rigged. But that's the whole thing is like, just don't make
you shake your head. It's like it's either an amateur hour
version, or maybe not. You know, maybe this is the new way to do
things, which is to make it look like a incompetent guy, you
know, kill him. So yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, who knows
what,
you know what I think? I think we talked about this maybe last
week, I think they finally figured out that there's so many
there's so much media, there's so many crackpots like us that
it's better just to do something really, really wacky so that
people can come up with all these conspiracies, because then
you can always just discredit them as being nut jobs. I mean,
that's the easiest way it seems
so obvious. You might be you might have nailed that. That's a
pause. And I would think let's say I was in the assassination
squad of some agency, and it doesn't necessarily have to be
one of ours. You might get to the point where you could come
in it could be Russian. I mean, it could be Chinese. I mean, you
don't know who this guy you know, the any of the connections
here.
Let me give you I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, I'm
just gonna say we don't really know the what we don't know the
real story here. And we never will. But let's just say that
you are in did some did this guy was taken out? What At what
point do you do so many of these things? You just say, Hey, I got
an idea. Let's try this one out and see what they think.
Yeah, they're just experimenting. Let's see how
many bloggers come up with shit about this one. Here. Let's say
we he died of massive amounts of Tylenol. Yeah, with codeine?
Yeah. Please, this guy was a scientist. He had access to
anthrax, he knew about how that shit works. Wouldn't you just
like to have a little lick of his own shit?
Well, you know, if you're in a big lab, and having worked in
one, I'm not going to give away too many secrets. But there's
some stuff in there. Yeah, you can kill yourself immediately.
You wanted to kill yourself. It would be fast and painless.
Absolutely. It's been it's just, it's right there. I mean, it's
right there in the lab, you can just go over there. And, you
know, in some cases, you might have to check it out. You know,
but what there is, is a Mako cat checked out the ball of XYZ, you
know, you just take a little dab and put on your tongue and boom,
that's it. You know, so so so
there's an interesting note, since it was an interesting case
over here. Have you ever heard of Jill dando of the Jill dando
murder?
No, never heard of Jill dando
Jill dando was the darling of British television in the in the
90s. And I'm not quite sure how how, you know how, how early on
she started but she was huge. He was just beautiful, perfect,
perfect woman that she could do all you know, new serious news
programmes, but she could do other entertainment type shows
fantastic. She gets shot one day in London right in their
forehead, in front of her home. And so they wind up convicting a
guy In the States, they had no evidence, they had no murder
weapon, they had no motive. They had one guy who had like a 75
IQ, who had been looking around, you know, clearly mentally
disabled retarded person. And he was just in the wrong place the
wrong time. So they convicted this guy. They just let them go.
They exonerated him the other day, like two days ago, after
his case, went back to trial and he was found not guilty. And so
now everyone's starting to say, you know, where did this one
come from? And so this is really interesting. Firstly, it was a
whenever they switched police chiefs on this kind of stuff,
that's when you got to be kind of wary. So there's like a new
police chief and then instead of a Russian calibre, you know,
like nine millimetre weapon that that you've been killed with, it
was all of a sudden was an English browning. And they're
thinking that maybe it had to do with it, it was retaliation for
the Bosnian war when the US and UK jets bombed a television
station. And so they decided they'd take out, you know, a
couple of our TV people, as all kinds of crazy theories whizzing
around about this one.
Wow. Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's blockable
Oh, it's very blockable. It's It's It's fascinating stuff.
So this woman was assassinated. Yeah, right.
I mean, she was shot right in her forehead. Boom. Yeah, like
right in the middle. Yeah, by Pro. Yeah, except know that they
get the retort to the retarded guy walking around, you know,
guy.
Who can we stick this on? Hey, look at that guy. They probably
looked like positioned him like I stand here for a second buddy.
Don't move. Boom.
I'm telling you. It's crazy.
I wonder if it's a random act of violence or random
assassination. But generally speaking, when you see those
things that you know, when it all shakes out in the end is
always turns out to be some reason the person was selected.
So there has to be something Shiite, maybe there I don't
know. Maybe she was connected to somebody or she said something
or I don't know, what do you think? Does anyone what's the
theory over? That can't be just something that simple as just
well, we're, you know, you bombed our TV station, so we're
gonna shoot your anchor?
Yeah, there's a couple of different stories, and I've only
kind of glanced through them. But I think she might have been,
she might have been doing one, there might have been a profile
piece that she was doing a journalistic piece. I mean,
there's all kinds of stuff. I haven't really gone down the
route. Generally
speaking TV people aren't really journalists are just talking
heads. Yep. And they don't do that much original reporting.
Although, you know, now it's having said that, I'll get two
or three notes. Oh, yes, we do. You know, yeah, they do.
You know, and rather always has I've always liked Dan, rather
for that. Yeah. Well, he's
been a bigger better reporter than anything else out there was
always better reported that he was a anchor. And he's still
doing it. Even though he's 90.
Now he's at he's
looks like it, he's got a bad thing about rather, which you
can't unfortunately, I don't know if he had Botox or what,
but he doesn't seem to be able to move his face. So he has this
kind of like, stiff it where he looks like he's stuffed. As a
matter of fact, he just sits there with his blank look. And
you know, he asked the right questions, and he gets the
right, you know, and he does some really good stuff on this
HD net, you know, Mark Cuban channel,
like really in depth pieces, right? Some really expensive
stuff.
Yeah, he does the old fashioned expensive reporting, where you
have to actually, you know, spend a lot of money, bring a
whole crew around the world, you know, you know, he's not going
on cutting coach. And so he does this expensive style old
fashioned reporting that nobody can afford. And it's always
really interesting. But of course, it has the same impact.
It's always had none. You know, it did a thing on all the border
wars and the drug dealing along the US Mexican border. And now.
Yeah, because if it's not on all the networks at the time for at
least the 24 hour news cycle, and on the the news networks,
and then all the newspapers, it just it didn't happen.
Right. So you have a very small segment of the population. I
don't know how many people who watch HD net, but it's not sure
it's as many that watch NBC, I can assure you, you know, so
yes, a few people that know about this stuff, or whatever,
and rather did his job.
So I thought, this is something you probably you might have
blogged this major discovery from MIT that's going to unleash
the solar revolution.
Yeah, I blogged It's a fraud.
Well, what it is, it's the hydroxy booster. It's the it's
the exact same system that I'm using my car now. That's why
That's why it really caught my eye. Because it's basically
using a solar panel to create electricity. Then create then
use hydrolysis to create hydrogen and then store that
hydrogen, which of course is it's a gas you can store it.
Yeah, yeah, you can store it. Good luck. Why do you say it's a
fraud? I mean, this is this isn't.
It's no, it's a bullshit story.
I was all excited. You're like harsh in my Melia
anything that's got to do with hydrogen seems to get you oh
no I mean he's MIT major discovery.
I should mention the people out there that hydrogen is extremely
difficult to store. It does it leeches through I mean, you have
to have a really thick
blimp. They store great in Zeppelin's.
Yeah, I had leaked out those things too. That's the problem
is the atom is so small that it'll it can actually go through
steel and come out the other side. And it does that. And in
fact, I used to work. When I was an air pollution inspector, we
used to inspect one of the companies over here in Richmond
that had a big giant globe of hydrogen. It was this monstrous
tank of hydrogen because they use it to hydrogenated oils.
Yeah. Which of course is the pump hydrogen doing what you say
polyunsaturated, you know, we need poly they take
polyunsaturated oil and polyunsaturated means it's not
saturated with hydrogen. And so then they saturated. Okay, got
it got goes. Yeah. So you take a polyunsaturated oil like a
safflower oil, and then you pump it up with hydrogen and you can
make this kind of Earth SATs margarine out of it. But now
it's got a bunch of this stuff pumped in there. The guy told me
by the way,
you make margarine from hydrogen? No, no,
you use the hydrogen to to use the hydrogen to saturate the oil
with hydrogen in over with some catalysts. And it's a it's a
process, but the hydrogen is the
key and that craves margarine.
It create Yeah. And well, it makes the oil. Yeah, it does.
Basically. That's actually cool. Anyway, so it's a weird process.
But it's that's boiled down to its basics. But anyway, the guy
says that they can pump enough hydrogen into any of these oils
that are, you know, these healthy oils. And he said we
could actually turn it into a brick if we wanted to.
All right. I just want to make sure of one thing that on August
2 2008, John C. Dvorak discredits at the MIT,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology. And says they this
is a bullshit discovery. That kind of just caught you John
Bull shit, discovery. Now. It's cool shit. What is it intended
to do this bullshit just to get MIT on the map again, or
that's a good publicity stunt. But let me finish my story about
the hydrogen. Okay. So anyway, so they got this huge tank of
hydrogen out and outside. This is when I first found out about
the hydrogen problem was storing it. I know, I've talked to other
people at you know, gas companies, you know,
compression, compressed gas companies, who also, you know,
told me some things I needed to know about these hydrogen
powered fuel cell cars and how they're never going to ever get
them to work because they can't get enough hydrogen stored.
Anyway, the point is, is that the hydrogen seeps through the
tank and leeches out constantly. So essentially, hydrogen coming
off this thing. And every so often, they have to have they
have like these gauges and they have to go out and inspect the
tanks constantly because occasionally it'll catch on
fire. But it's not like a FISA like is blowing up or anything.
It's just, it's, it's like a wick. So the steel itself is
actually a wick for the hydrogen. And once it catches on
fire, the hydrogen then gets sucked through the steel and it
forms apparently an invisible blue flame all around the dome,
which can burn for burn for days and have to be really careful
because it heats up the damn thing. Oh shit, and then it
could blow up. And so they have to constantly monitor this tank
for the leaching hydrogen just to make sure it's not burning.
I'm thinking this is horrible. This this whole process?
This was how many years ago you think they may be perfected this
since then? No, no, they haven't.
Why? Well, what closer to perfect, I don't know. Gin is a
small small atom that can go through anything over time. I
mean, it's like you know, this is the way it is. Now they when
they compress it a lot and make it makes a little more
difficult. I don't think it's leaching through necessarily
although I have to talk to an expert through these tanks which
now on the on the hydrogen fuel cell cars, these tanks to get as
much hydrogen in there as they need. These tanks have got the
hydrogen pressurised at 10,000 pounds per square inch.
Oh, that's your driving bomb. You're driving up the you
know this little but no, no, it's rupture proof. They got
brought to you by Halliburton is eruption proof everybody.
So they got these rupture proof tanks and there's a whole bunch
of them in these cars to get enough because you know there's
some magic number they have to get the things to go on once
Full fueling, they want the car to go 350 miles or 300 miles, I
used to know, I don't know what the number is now, but it's
something higher than they can do. And without making, you
know, million tanks in there, it's impractical, you know, at
some point. But meanwhile, they got these rupture proof tanks
filled with hydrogen at 10,000 pounds per square inch. That's
the current state of the art, it's like, seems to me that
these systems are just impractical. I mean, it's, it's
kind of modern and interesting. But, and the other thing, by the
way, not to belabour. The point, I'm trying to get off the topic
a little bit. I've driven these cars, I had about five or six
different ones. Because I on the list, guys get to look at these
cars. And they have, they have a showcase of every so often. They
make us a horrible sound, when you drive them, they'd make the
hydrogen running through the membrane is this old fashioned
membrane that makes the whole process work, the fuel cell,
which is apparently not new, and that's they think if they can
make that better, they might be able to make this whole system
work better. But anyway, you drive around, if you got it, you
give it full tilt, you just pump it, you know, you'd floor it.
The thing goes, you know, like a regular car not quite as fast. I
don't think as a gasoline engine, at least the ones I've
driven. But it goes you know, it takes off. But it starts to make
this high pitched scream. It's kind of like a cat being choked,
but really loud. And it's hot. And it's like every one of the
cars I've driven make makes the same noise. And it's like very
annoying. It's a screeching strange, screeching sound that
is unpleasant. So I asked you guys about it was you so what's
the deal with the noise? Yeah, was when the hydrogen goes
through here and makes us noise? Apparently, it's you know, I
don't know. I don't like him.
Okay, we've learned a lot about hydrogen, a little bit here on
Romper Room.
And we've also we've also gotten a lot of Twitter's by the way
about your hydro by toxic whatever that hydroxy
booster. Yeah, people who say it can't work. It's impossible.
It'll never work.
Right? Well, there's that. But I sided with you. Saying that, you
know, if you're getting it's possible, it seems to me that if
you get this hydrogen and oxygen out of the mix, reintroduce it
into the fuel that it might make the fuel burn more efficiently,
it's possible? Well, you would get you would get a net energy
gain. I think that's possible. But But I also agree with the
guys who wrote in and there's been a lot of them. It's got to
be producing a lot of excess water coming out of the exhaust
system and rusting out your tailpipe that
that is possible, I'll have a look. But I've also I have also
thought about this, I said that, you know, the only other two
things that that are possible here is a maybe the engine man
and I think you said this, maybe the engine management computer
has adjusted itself and just given me a better performance
overall, because they're so detuned to meet environmental
specifications. So that's a possibility that the onboard
computer was definitely messed messed up when I introduced this
hydroxy into it. To maybe I'm just driving differently,
although I did the test on cruise control, you know, you
can't always keep it on cruise control. And maybe I didn't, you
know, who knows that? I mean, there could be a difference
there. Or indeed, you know, what you're saying is it actually has
some effect?
It might but the thing about the computer they did a couple guys
wrote me mentioning that they had used you know, they had
found or they knew people you can get chips for most of the
cars out there. You can make
it up you can you can really lean the mixture or do whatever,
you
may just make it work better. So it's not so it's not oriented
toward less pollution. Better performance, exactly. Eight
claims. One guy claims that he was getting like, you know, 18
miles to the gallon. And then he put in a new chip and he was
getting like 30 I thought that was a bit extreme. I mean, I
guess he getting a few more miles per gallon but, but it's
possible that people should just be swapping out their computers
for the cars and you know, you know, whatever. He's not
environmentally cool, but you know, it's cool, though. Yeah. I
mean, you wouldn't be paying this much for gasoline, you
know. Whatever.
I must agree with you the Daniel No, Sarah of MIT. He does look
pretty dorky.
Boys from MIT for God's sake. They I mean, you can get
actually there's a they have you know about this right? They have
a facial recognition system. Applicants at MIT they have to
look like dorks or you can't get in. Did you know that?
No, I did. No that true a Jesse Ventura is going to speak at the
Big Ron Paul rally for the Republic.
get his autograph. Well, here's what I want to do. Here's what
here's what I, here's what I want to do and I think because
you're gonna be the host of this thing,
yeah, not not of the the second night I'm in the, in the minor
leagues at the rally.
Well, whatever you're gonna be, you're gonna get to see Ron Paul
and Jesse Ventura. I'm thinking of course, yes. I want you to
get me an autographed baseball. Why I decided I decided that the
coolest thing in the world is an autographed baseball because for
one thing, the ink on it on that skin that's, you know, the
leathers made for this seems to stay for a long time. And I
think I'm going to start collecting autographs but only
on baseballs. And I think it'd be cool to head Osteen. Be cool
to have a baseball with like, you know, Ron Paul, just in a
whole bunch of people like me get a baseball of the medio
group in San Francisco. Just have everybody signed the bass.
Okay.
All right. So then here's an idea for you, John. Why don't
you be my guest? And come out to the rally for the Republic? Meet
some of our friends. And I'll get you in to get near you bring
the baseballs. All right, you bring a little baggie of balls.
And I'll get you in to get the autographs from Ron Paul and
Jesse Ventura. Just hang on I'm not gonna do your dirty work.
You start your own collection. Dammit. I gotta do that for you.
What do you mean, give me a baseball autograph. Oh, hi, Dr.
Ron, Can I Can you send my baseball for my friend John.
I'm a crackpot. And we're all crackpots and you're a crackpot?
I don't think so. Judas No way.
Not gonna show up. I might come.
Well, yeah, let me know. Let me know. Because I can totally hook
you up. Yeah, I'm
sure. So I think there's another convention going on at the same
time.
The Republican convention,
was it the Republican convention? Yeah. But that was
good. There. Were didn't know that he I thought he said he was
doing it at the demo during the Democrat convention. Because he
didn't want to interrupt the Republican convention.
No, he's doing it during the Republican. When's that? When's
the Democratic Convention?
No, no, no, no, not at the end of signing the end of August, I
think.
Yeah, now, so this? No,
I think no way may take it back. I think the Democratic
Convention has been cancelled.
No, it hasn't. Oh, dude. Oh, you got to see this. This Lyndon
LaRouche. When he talks about Obama,
I believe you're now just discovering Lyndon LaRouche.
What can I What can I tell you, Okay, I'm gonna Johnny come
lately. So he has this whole rap on on Obama, which is
fascinating. It's like Obama, he's working for the, for the,
the, the enemy Britain, the at the end, which is
Britain, if you could only get Lyndon LaRouche is accent
because he's got a weird way of talking.
He does. He does, you know, that's a guy. We need a baseball
from, okay, from Lyndon LaRouche. So, so he lays it, he
lays in this whole rap about how George Soros has finance and
completely programmed in his running Obama, and then, you
know, and he's, you know, it's like, he's like, it's cost three
quarters of a billion dollars. But, you know, they're gonna get
him all the way up to the finish line, and it was only intended
to destroy Hillary, because he'll never be voted. You know,
he'll he'll never get the president said it was never
intended to be that way. And they're going to destroy him
before the before the elections. I don't know if that's before
he's a the official, democratic Democratic candidate.
Know that to be after? Because if the whole thing was to get at
Hillary would have to be right. wouldn't play ball, right. It's
British. Exactly. And then it would have to be after. So you
know, we figured there's got to be something
you got to hear that rap though. Man. It is amazing that he goes
into this whole thing about how George Soros kept Britain out of
the Euro by you know, that he was supposed to be the guy that
bankrupted the pound. You remember that?
Yeah. You know, I think they give George Soros more credit
than he deserves
that's possible.
You know, I mean, the guys he's shows up here and there. Yeah,
you know, he's behind moveon.org They say behind this behind
that. I you know, how much time is there in the day? I mean, I
can barely keep my office clean,
but you don't know what these guy he's, you know, all just
kind of do all day is stroke his white pussy, and go
whoo, ha ha, ha. Yeah. Blofeld is the reference for anyone who
doesn't get that. So. So is that Lyndon LaRouche thing on YouTube
or Google or?
LaRouche? pac.com I
think Hold on, right. Because if I get if I We'll find it on
YouTube or someplace. I'll post it on the blog. Because I think
people love that. I mean, the guy is very entertaining. When
he was running for president. He was on TV all the time here.
Here you go. You're giving these same speeches. You know.
There's the link and you want to go to his new webcast. Now, you
should watch that you'll enjoy it.
No, I will. I actually do enjoy listening to him because it's
like you just shake your head. I ran into one of his protege. I
wasn't shaking my head. I'm going like, yeah, we're all
gonna die. We're all gonna die. He literally says that Johnny
says we're gonna die. Fantastic. So you were talking about
earlier about you're struggling with I wanted to bring this up
before we've finished off. You were talking about you had set
up, you know, your sound thing and you couldn't get it fixed.
And you don't you forgot how it worked, because you haven't used
it for such a long time. And I was like, I had to post a little
MVNO bug on or a texture bug at the bottom of one of my
websites, which is IPTV? daily.com. Yeah. And it's, it
says it's a Joomla, not a WordPress content manager that I
was using. And I realised that I set this thing up about two and
a half years ago. And using Joomla when I actually could,
and then I had to go in and fix some, you know, do some head to
hand tweak the template had to drop this thing. It took me
hours and hours and hours, and I called people that kind of knew,
and it was the same story. Yeah, you can't, you know, these lot
of these open source public projects are never really
designed to be easy. They're, you know, they're designed by
the guy for himself. And this, you know, that works or doesn't,
but it was like, if you're not playing with some of this stuff,
constantly, you forget how to use it, which was really makes
me suspicious, not like, right, you know, bicycle riding is not
the case you get on a bicycle, you know how to balance yourself
and go, pedal. But it's like, the best example of this for
anybody out there. If you can find a computer and old clunker
that's running Windows 3.1. I would advise you go and see if
you can even make it work. Yeah, really. Because there's, there
was a thing called File Manager. And it was, you know, it's just,
you can't figure it out. It's like, how do I get anything to
even run? And that was a machine that you probably use for a cup
of No, you probably use that system for years, you know,
literally years. And you use it on a daily basis. And if you go
back to you can't figure out how to use it. What is wrong with
this picture?
Well, it's progress.
I just baffles me that you can't that you know, after using
something for years and years,
you go back never know how to use it anymore. Yeah. I don't
know. I don't have that problem. Too much. You
don't know what you just did today. That's the point.
Well, that was a little different that because I only
set that up once. It was like a you know, it's a big ball. Okay,
you're right. You're right. But you But during that period of
when you said that you had the thing down, you knew you would
you had it, you know,
well, okay, yes. All right. So let me say this, my reliance
upon that was incredibly large. So the biggest The point is when
you set up systems to run, and then you base other stuff that
you're doing on top of that, and now there's more abstractions,
and as your life gets easier, there's all this all these
little nuggets of shit that kind of worked somehow. And if one
breaks, then it's crazy to have to go and figure it out. Yeah,
which is essentially what every web 2.0 company in the world
has.
Pretty much yeah. Now we're gonna do I just find it annoying
that I guess maybe I just wanted to complain.
Okay. Well, you're a real downer there.
Yeah, well, I brought the whole show to a
screeching halt.
So when we weren't supposed to talk about something like the
the last week or the week before, you know, we keep saying
this, and this bothers me, by the way, again, we teach
something for the next show. And then we never revisited ever,
and this has always bothered me. I don't know if you ever watch
TV or listen to the radio when you have a talk show guy? And he
says, yeah, we'll be a guy and oh, we got you know, Nokia to
beef up the Venture Fund. We'll be right back with that story
and more right after this. And they never
they never come back. Let me go look at Bubba's Show Notes
maybe. Maybe it's gonna be in
there. Could be maybe Baba should be responsible for keep
reminding us of Brian's voice memo. was for a branch. You guys
are supposed to talk about. You said you were going to talk
about this last week, so you should talk about it because
you're gonna get Somebody's mad, although I don't think our
listeners really care about anything we have to say.
No, it's just those dulcet tones.
So I don't know what else
I'm looking at.
But I was talking about what about Obama? He hasn't been in
the news much.
Well, I was watching Jon Stewart last night, and he had a pretty
good montage and it was all the talking points clearly and now
it's you know, is Obama too arrogant? Yes. The latest. Yeah.
And Jon Stewart was thinking I was fantastic. He's like, the
guy's running for president. You mean of course that maybe that's
all the setup maybe that's the whole Soros game who knows?
The yes it's Soros is behind the whole thing. So Letterman's got
a new thing called the annoying word of the day and he did one
the other day I did he pulled a Stuart which was to collect a
series of clips from
repetitive talking point clips.
Yeah, right. Which I think by the way is great because it
really shows you you know, I think it's great for the public
to see because then you realise that this is like these
these like it's a setup like that's how the media works and
they all copy me yeah,
that the media sucks essentially. Exactly he his his
in his first word for the series is Veep stakes. Okay. And I
thought it was a deep state. So I said, Well, he's gonna not
gonna, like just VP sweepstakes. Yeah, the VP the vice president
sweepstakes, then is and the word is Veep stakes. And I swear
to God, he must have found 75 separate and distinct references
to these idiots going Veep stakes Veep stakes with logos
and logos about Veep stakes and guy saying it it was amazing. It
was actually I don't think he must have a new person on his
staff that came from steamer insurance. Exactly. That just,
you know, I don't
open it up because that's what that's what gets people go in
and me I always think Letterman, he's a rebel. You know, he's
doing his bed. He's trying to wake people up to show what's
going on.
I think Letterman is one of the best entertainers we've seen for
a long time. He's a he's a natural. Yeah. I mean, he's
always been, you know, he's got that grumpy quality that he
seems to be like a grumpy guy. But he's naturally funny. He's
got the good lines, says a nice sense of what a show should be
like. It's always you know, it's, every time he does this,
he has a repeat. Now he has recurring gags. The one he's
been doing for the last couple of years, which is always good
for a cheap laugh is a thing called great moments in
presidential speeches.
Yes. I love that one. You know,
and he shows a few clips from here and there. And then he has
he'll show like Kennedy saying he's been on Berliner.
Yeah, you have the big Roosevelt. doing one thing, oil
is have fear, you know. And so he has these mini cuts to a
George Bush stand at a podium saying something really stupid.
And it's like, and that day after day after day, it's every
day does this and it's always bush in some other venue, saying
something stupid, or stammering or getting confused. And
you know, why don't you because that's actually a clone is not
actually bush. It's a clone bush. Look at Bush when he when
he entered the White House in 2000. And look at a picture of
him now. There was a Teflon man, that's a different guy. It's not
the same guy.
We actually saw a couple years ago and I had to dig this up.
And unfortunately, the search engine on my own blog, I can't
find anything. I gotta get a guy thing. I'm about to put Google
on it or something. Anyway, the we did a there is a clip out
there showing George Bush when he was a still the governor. And
you know, there's a bunch of the way he spoke and the way he was
extremely fat fast on his feet, quick witted, sounded
intelligent, and then they cut to the other clips, which is
him, you know, three years into his job. You know, beat up
looking grey haired, you know, slow witted saying dumb thing.
Yeah. And yeah, and it reminds me of the Star Trek episode,
where the guy was the in this planet that was filled with
Nazis. Remember this one? They had a guy who was sent down from
the Federation and then they had him doped up in the back. And in
the Star Trek crew and Kirk, yeah, had to rescue him. And
the fight the Nazi when there was like a really hot Nazi chick
to oh, there was always a
way of you can't have Nazis without a hot Nazi. Che Yeah.
Remind me to talk about that in a second. I'm done. Oh, if
you're young, do you follow the Max Mosley story? I don't know
Max Mosley Max Mosley runs the richest motorsport in the world
known as Formula One. Oh, that guy. And the news of the World
ran this huge story with pictures. Max Mosley caught in
Nazi sex orgy. And they said they had pictures of these
leather clad women. Yeah, like spanking him. And, and, and he
sued the news of the World. And he won. This was early in the
week, he won a very minor amount, 60,000 pounds. And the
reason why is because, you know, it was it was a privacy issue,
that first he, I guess he proved or the judge agreed that there
was that it was not a Nazi sex or gos just a sex orgy as they
got that dropped, but under, you know, privacy, personal privacy,
the news of the World was found guilty of revealing something
they shouldn't have, namely, what this guy was doing and
taking clandestine photos. And now he's gonna sue them in civil
court for damages. And he's doing this with a German
magazine with a French magazine. But the whole Funny thing is,
it's like, Dude, he's like Formula One, you know, of
course, you're gonna have just like, Nazi sex orgy? You know,
that's what that sport is about.
So the, it the way we look at it in the United States with this
kind of thing. You wouldn't have won any suits, because it's a
your right of privacy as a public personality is pretty
limited. Right? And so it would be tough go here. I think
they're a little more you know, they're over there. Their
privacy things are, I think it's because the judge and most of
those people over in Europe are probably having this action
themselves, and they don't like the idea of DACA is one of their
Hallease voice. Well, how do you come up with that? What do you
say that John?
I just have the sense of it.
So I tell you, what's, what's going on here? What's rumbling?
That's really interesting. You say that? Do you recall the do
true case was a paedophile network? from Belgium, this was
this came to light and I think early 90s
No, no, no.
Well, it's a long story, but to this guy turned out to be part
of a paedophile network, which went into the highest levels of
society, governments, Justice Departments, police, judges,
bankers. And, you know, it's like a really long, really,
really deep, really, really gory story. But there's been but you
know, so a lot of these judges and politicians are, of course,
black mailable, because, you know, there's all this
information about him. And right now there's a there's something
trying to kind of brewing in the Netherlands, where the, the
highest guy in the Justice Department, presumably, is has
become black mailable because he had sex with underage boys in
Turkey. The Turkish government found out about it, they made
them you know, get some Turkish businessman and throw him in
jail for the rest of his life in Holland. You know, otherwise,
they'd reveal this stuff about this guy in the Justice
Department. I mean, it's all kind this really is so funny.
You say that because I've had that feeling for a long time.
And now there's this jersey if you follow that, this the island
of Jersey? No, tell me. Oh, man, this
has been going on for a couple a couple you know, good news here
in this country by
Jesus. Oh, this is horrible. So this also apparently has
something to do with that island jersey, which was it's a very
small island I it's part of the United Kingdom, but it has its
own governance. So its own officials its own police force.
There's some stories about in World War Two how the Nazis you
know, use that plus use the island that a lot of the
inhabitants collaborated. I'm just talking out of my ass here.
Okay, so I'm just telling you the facts as I've read them now
and what I think I've understood, not the absolute
truth. So there was this orphanage mainly for boys, I
think, but I think they did have it was mixed at some point. It's
been there for a long time. And there were always reports of
abuse going on. And you know, hundreds of people and was the
always kind of, like, ignored and these people are kind of
nuts anyway, so no one really paid any attention to it. But
now they made a discovery, there was a bunker nearby. And they
found you know, like torture chambers and charred remains of
children and you know, 65 different baby teeth. And, you
know, here comes the the chief of police all of a sudden, he's
Oh, he's good. He's going taking his pension now and he's
leaving. And yeah, I mean, this is like, there's no information
coming in or out. It totally it's, it totally, totally stinks
of you know, something really nasty going on. And, and it's
also it's I've already seen it being linked to this to true
network. It's frightening. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's if You
want I'll send you a link, but it's no send me a link and might
be blockable. God, man, you know, I wouldn't even
blog this link because, you know, there's a lot of photo
evidence on it as well. It's gruesome is really gruesome.
Okay, well, whatever,
I'll send it to you and you make me a
leg give me some but yeah, it might, but it's interesting.
This kind of stuff. We don't you know, these are good stories
that you think that media here would pick up on because you get
some readership. You know, as opposed to, you know,
always thinking commercial. I love you, John C. Murdoch.
I mean, no, I'm serious. I mean, he went on, you know, these guys
are running the stories about you know, the first woman's
marathon in Marin County and what a big deal it is. That's,
that's important for the community. John, what are you
talking about, man?
You know, that kind of crap. As opposed to like, you know, some
real news
you'll love the story though. You'll love it. You really rely
on it follow up in the Jill dando thing and the Maximo Z
thing probably not so much. It's interesting story sounds
interesting. There's good stuff out there.
Yeah, I mean, there's there's lots going on in our world that
can distract us from the financial demise
that too All right. So I think we're at the one half one and a
half point let's you got something else. Let me see if I
got here in my apartment. Let me see what let me see what else I
got from HQ in from the red fax on the talking points you if
there's anything I absolutely must talk about or else I'm
getting there. I'm gonna lose my pension who's given that to your
wife or your son? No, no, this is from the government of
course. Thanks so much John Madden games coming out. I did
three designs nothing here Microsoft's doing another search
in JAMA. Give me a break what is wrong with these people? That
poor company is just a mess. China China the Olympics I don't
think they're clearing up the air by the way. I'm not seeing
any evidence of it. They're supposed to like stopped
everything and now they've had like one of their worst error
days the other day and uh, you can't see if your your hand in
front of your face that's a bad day you know, it's like it but
it's not from fog, you know, kind of thing. I don't know what
they're gonna do. I didn't even know it had gotten that bad. I
mean, I've been why is
that I mean, we weren't able to clean up our act we were Why
didn't those guys get with the programme? You know, we clean up
Los Angeles kinda. You know the smell.
I mean, you still have the bowl problem because you know, Los
Angeles is in a bowl. So it makes it problematic but no,
yeah, no, they got they put their pollution crap on the car.
But those guys are like Chinese they make our pollution catalyst
catalytic converters
they make it for us. They're made you know what, at the in
this day and age with all the technologies that are out there
I mean, we can create we can build and we do build coal
burning plants that put out almost nothing sure because we
have you know, the shaking the bed of floating beds, whatever
they call them type of burners and they have scrubbers on the
stacks and electrostatic precipitators on the stacks and
all these things you can put on there that recover all the crap
coming up the smokestack. The Chinese make half of that stuff
on their own factories. I mean, it's ridiculous that the Chinese
electrostatic that was a good word. Electro Sandro static
precipitator precipitator I bet you get laid saying that the
people got you a couple of times electrostatic precipitator baby
I got one of my bed
actually, I have an electrostatic precipitator in my
office. They're actually a very good method for cleaning room
air too, because they take out all the pollen and pretty much
anything that's floating around dust so not one of those
ionisers No electrostatic precipitator is what you want
the ioniser thing is kind of sketchy. It's a sharper image a
favourite? Yeah, you know that's the the Sharper Image went
broke. Thanks. Thanks for reminding me that that device
didn't save
the only reason guys would actually go shopping with their
women was if there was a sharper image in the mall and now that's
gone. Well, I
think there's still a Brookstone that's got a lot of that's lame
Brookstone never has any cool techno gadgets it also has like
outdoorsy stuff.
Yeah, but this still better than
how many hammocks and stuff
and compounders on him? Yeah
345 Actually, so yeah, no electrostatic precipitators are
very cool. But you can put it on your they put these industrial
ones on stacks and it just booms kills the smoke pretty much and
then there's cyclones I mean, there's a lot of things you can
do. And so apparently the Chinese didn't care so they just
went on the cheap to build these their factories which are and
then stupidly most of them are I don't even know why this is
this. The part that baffles me is why are these things blowing
into Beijing? When most of the I thought my My impression was the
Chinese are going to build most of these new factories along the
coastline of, you know, around Sue Jo and places like that as a
puppet. But now that I think about it, I think China has got
factories everywhere. I got a bad feeling it's gone berserk.
They're just building crap. Like, there's no tomorrow.
I got a bad feeling about the Olympics. I got a feeling
something bad's gonna happen.
Well, there's a news article. I haven't read it yet. But I just
got in the new economist, front page article on how the Olympics
has slowed down China's run to freedom. Some political thing,
you know, it's because you know, they have to shut down the
internet. They're worried by web X. I mean, the Chinese. They it
was a blunder for them to take the Olympics system. They should
have waited. Yeah, they are. They're definitely not ready
yet.
Yeah, but I mean, I'm sure the stadium will be cool. I don't
know. I'm not going.
I got no invite.
Because I've only actually I've only been to one, I think maybe
to one Olympic event, I think during the LA Olympics, they had
the soccer games. Were up here in northern California at
Stanford Stadium. And I went to Italy versus Brazil or something
like that.
Dude, listen to this. On Rush Limbaugh. He was celebrating his
20th anniversary on air. Yeah. George W. Bush, his dad, and Jeb
all called in at the same time.
Congratulate him. That's funny. God, damn, that's amazing, isn't
it? That's how powerful that guy's become. He has his
President.
Well, I'm just calling along with President 41 and the former
governor of Florida. We're fixing to have lunch here. And I
said, Listen, we ought to call our power. Let them know that we
care for you. So this is as much as anything a nice verbal letter
to a guy we really care for.
I don't think he got a call from Clinton. No, I know. I can't do
any accents, man. No, your action sucks. Yeah. Yeah, it's
funny for a guy who's got the voice you know, into accents.
No, I can't. Yeah, you know that. There. You can get a
coach.
Yeah, but I don't want to do that. I just stay away from it.
Yes, I'd like to get a coach because there's a couple of
accents. I'd love to do. You know, I'd like to do I can do to
just burst by can I even gonna try but I like to do a Scotch
accent. Because I think that's hilarious. And, and a Russian,
although I think Leo Leo does a great Russian. Yeah. Oh,
I heard that the other week. Yeah, he does a great Russian.
He does a great Russian. I think he can teach me the Russian.
But hey, man, you know, I got a complaint about twit that that
was there was no content last week.
Was that one of the shows I was on? Yeah.
Yeah, there was it was fun. But you know, I think you've even
said a couple times. Hey, you know, I was talking about the
news.
A gag? Yeah, that show fell off the track. And I'm not
absolutely sure why. So I don't know. It doesn't matter. You
know, there was there's the number do the newsrooms is slow
news week. So alright, so there's no news in the summer?
No, no, no, I've discovered there's plenty of news just it's
the Journalist. I'll go on vacation. That's why Bush's
shuffling through these executive orders to build the
death camps. That's why it's happening now. Come on, then.
There's lots of stuff going on. Lots of it.
Oh, wait a minute. Looking at this list. Again. They do have
mentioned the death camps here. Were not mentioned death camps.
On My Talking Points Memo from the
Okay. All right. I got the message.
All right. So I think that's it. I think we're done, I think
through
all right, so the plenty of homework there. John, you got
some things to look at?
Yeah, and definitely the one that got has me most intrigued
is the Jill dando assassination,
but also catch up on our friend Lyndon LaRouche. You'll love it.
Oh, yeah. No, I'm
gonna blog that I'm gonna find that somehow and blog it because
that needs to be reviewed by everyone because it's always
good for a it's always good for a laugh. Well, let's hope so.
Let's hope let's hope it really is just naughty. Because he's,
he's pretty much predicting doom. Yeah, well, you know,
it's, there's a good business in Doom.
I should have started the tune earlier. This probably drives
people mad. But to tune in, we're just like, waiting for it
to end so we can end the show.
I can't cue the guy and say hurried up. All right, coming to
you from the United Kingdom. My name is Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak here in sunny Northern California.
And we will talk to you once again next week right here on no
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