This show is the worst ever.
No wonder people don't want to help us out.
They would manage bad guy. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak,
Sunday, January 15 2012 times you give them a nation media
assassination episode 374. This is no agenda. molesting the
mainstream media from camo fall here in Austin, Texas, the
capital of the drone Star State in the modern everybody. I'm
Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're coming down from the
buzz of the Miss America contest. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Vaughn Buzzkill.
You know, it's so funny because I was downstairs in the, in the
camp MoPhO studios last night. And and I'm literally working on
my homework, you know, the SOPA PIPA open thing. And I'm
Brianna, I'm ploughing through documents. And then Mickey's
texting me like she's texting from upstairs downstairs. She
says like, oh my god, this is so amazing. This Miss America is
too funny.
Never seen it before, I
guess not. And like, it's hilarious. And she and she's
texting like what they're saying. Like I almost swallowed
a diamond that in all kinds of crazy stuff.
I was stupid. And I'm like, You
know what? I'm so happy that I know. John is watching and
recording. It's a tradition here on the no agenda show. It really
is a tradition. I didn't peek though. I picked the for a
second at the the question and answers or I don't know. Maybe
one of them. I guess five girls had answer a question or
something.
Yeah. And it kicked five off the way they're kicking people off
was pretty cold blooded. I thought but but let me let
me tell you, I mean, these girls, I mean, they're ready for
Fox News. They're so good.
Uh, one of them was showing a lot of leg and she wanted to be
a broadcast journalist and want to play the woman who played the
vortex fifth symphony or New World Symphony. They drowned her
out what? Yeah, oh, yeah. No, because she can't play. Oh,
she's no good. Yeah, she's pounding away on the piano. You
can't hear a note. But she's showing a lot of leg.
Yeah, who cares? I'm going to sing. Show your legs girl. Well,
first of all in the morning to you they're shown clothed
in the morning to you Adam curry in the morning to all ships at
sea. boots on the ground and feet in the air. Yes, in
the morning to all the cruise ships listing to one side. And
of course, all of our human resources in the chat room
always here we have a full quorum no agenda. stream.com no
agenda. chat.net Nice to have you guys here. They've always
got our backs John, just in case we mess up. They're always there
to tell us what we're doing wrong.
Yeah, they are. Somebody's got to do it. And that's right. It's
a tough job. Keep that's the modern broadcast model. You have
instant feedback and mistakes. Don't go very far. When you make
one. It gets corrected in real time. You don't have to do may
accomplish or anything number
one, number one we used to have the what are the phone lines?
Yeah, that's three Hey, man,
you're wrong.
What an antiquated system that was. It'd be playing the record.
Your Honour. But not even that. It's like yeah, in commercials.
Hello. And then hey, man, you were wrong what you just said
okay. Whatever.
And most people are pretty cold blooded about it too. And okay,
get you that Miss America thing and get it out of the way as you
want.
Oh, please. Oh, please indulge me John. I
have 1234 clips.
I don't know if I can allow more than three Miss America they
just
are worth it. Mainly because one of the clips is more of a
there's two clips that are kind of can we
just explain why we do this first.
I think it's just because it's easy to ridicule and, and it's
also it's apparently it's a rigged competition. I think and
and you can also see the political scene going on. It's
always reflected as like, it's like the World Cup. You know,
the team that's gonna win as a team. That's, you know,
when was this another Donald Trump production? Oh,
no, no, this is the old original pre Trump Charles to Miss USA.
This is old school. Okay. And then this is the one that has
the talent competition, which Miss USA doesn't bother with,
which is to say their bikinis on the somebody goes, at least to
especially Miss California was jaw dropping. These women had
jaw dropping figures for a change. Yeah, okay. Except for
the one woman there's apparently some woman that was weighed like
300 pounds. And then she came into the competition. She lost
like 250 pounds. She'll be the spokesperson for Jenny Craig.
She's now 50 pounds.
So um, were there any contestants with missing limbs
or anything cool like now
now there wasn't anything like that. They may have there'll be
next year. Okay. Let me just play a couple of things that I
thought were were interesting to note, Miss California who had
one of the most amazing figures in the competition but she had
other issues. But she boy the issues were just in terms of
judging she was too tan she had a square face there's all
these proud this is so wrong square face.
So, but she they had these women when they came on I think during
one of the sessions, they would they would talk over the music
in the day, apparently some pre recorded thing. And Miss
California who I guess is going to become a PR woman or
something, which is I think most of these tracks. Listen to what
she says. With her little voice over you have to listen
carefully because it's kind of drowned out by the music but
just listen to this.
Two more semifinalist call and one of them is Miss California.
Make the Miss America programme. A little bit more edgy would be
picking the right Miss America to know how to work with the
media and play off of stories that are hot topics. So someone
that's media savvy and knows how to manipulate media.
manipulate the media. Did she actually say that? Yeah. You're
hired. You are so hired. No could she could we call it could
we give her a different name? Cuz she dyed her hair blonde.
Can we put her on Russia today? Draw my work the
square. There were a couple of definitely a couple of Russia
today. Women on the competition. Good manipulating
media with your legs. I love it. This is good. She's good. She's
smart. Awesome. She went to
manipulate the media meme in there. But I think part of the
reason she got kicked off because she she'll don't say it
she do it. She didn't Don't say it just do it just manipulate
don't talk. The first rule about media manipulation.
So the woman who won was Miss Wisconsin, you know, and really
because Green Bay won the Super Bowl last year. I don't know
what the connection is. Or Wisconsin had the the governor
there's some political thing. She was the dumbest of the five
that were at the end with the question. You're not this is the
Miss Wisconsin tell. You listen to her. And by the way, at the
very end, they give it away that she's going to win, which I
thought was like wait a minute, I only heard it by the way on
the audio. I didn't hear it when I was watching it. I missed it.
Sorry. I'm gonna say let me just set it up a little more. She she
is asked a question and I swear to God, I've talked about not
answering the question. She seeks to declare a winner here.
Go. The first finalist to receive a question and have a
chance to be Miss America is Miss Wisconsin.
Wisconsin. Alright, let's find out which judge will be asking
your question. It is Laura Spencer.
The divide between Democrats and Republicans seems to be getting
wider and nastier. Do you think Miss America should be free to
declare her political affiliation?
Miss America represents everyone. And so I think a
message to the political candidates is that they
represent everyone as well. And so in these economic times, we
need to be looking forward to what America needs and I think
Miss America needs to represent all.
Thank you Miss Wisconsin. Good luck. Now you can go change for
the crowning ceremony which is coming up next. Oh, you can go
change for the crowning ceremony. Yeah. Wow. What an
idiot. Excuse me. What an idiot.
Well, she says in the economics, she doesn't answer the quiz.
She's
just Blathers is now at the whim it was this on ABC.
I believe a man. Of course. All right. Gotcha. Yeah, so that's
even worse. So the one that should have won was Miss New
York. She was pretty
rare. Mickey said she said she was rooting for Miss New York.
She
was she was the prettiest. She had a great one. Not the
prettiest. But she was one of the top pretty girls and she had
a nice figure. She had great personalities a little bit of a
fast she looked a little short to me. Miss Oklahoma was the
shorty and she also she could have won she was like some
people move on. I'm gonna pick a short woman killing me. Let's
get out. Let's play as Mr. York actually answers the only time
in history I've ever seen one of these women answer one of these
questions somewhat intelligently and concisely and that sushi did
I said she's done. They do not need some smart ass woman who
may be as sharp and could tell him to screw themselves that she
was too on the ball. The fourth or five questions will be for
Miss New York. Caitlin Monte Kayla come on over.
Congratulations, Caitlin. Okay, the judge that will be asking
your question Terry Polo.
Street movement became a national story in 2011 with
1000s of Americans protesting that 1% of the population
controls 99% of the wealth. Do the protesters To have a point
and what should be done. I think what the
Occupy Wall Street movement did was bring discourse into the
political campaigns going on now. And it just changed how
things are gonna go. But the thing about Occupy Wall Street
is if they're going to come up and complain about a problem,
they have to come up with some solutions. You can't just say
that there's a problem without trying to troubleshoot. So it's
up to them to push to try to come up with some solutions to
go with it, but every right to do
that. Thank you, Mister.
Wouldn't be better if she went Mic check. That would have been
great. And Hawaiians Mic check.
That would have been fine. There was one woman who had a sense of
humour but nobody else seemed to Now the final thing I have left
Flass by the way that her answer was took her out you know,
people
have to understand it's very important that the this is
actually the best show to watch to show how manipulated the
American public is. If people are wondering why are they new?
Why are you doing you can you can minute talk anyway, why
wouldn't you just quit?
This is very important to the voice of the people who do not
like to segment Yes, exactly.
That's exactly it. All right.
Finish it once a year. Give us a break.
They bring us home baby. Okay, so
here's the last one. This is a douchebag judge. He is they just
did the bathing suit competition with these women that are just
got them all they did was walk up and down these really
outrageous figures and better than years past and they asked
this guy what he's looking for. This is simple question. What
are you looking for? When you look at a woman who is walking
up and down in a bathing suit?
Mark I couldn't help but notice how intense you are during that
competition. Aside from the future wife, what are you
looking for? I think for me, I'm
just looking for an all rounder someone who's um you know
relatable fun confident you know, knows what's going on with
current events and you know, who's also beautiful kind and
has a good heart. That's what I'm about. I
don't have your job tonight.
Right for eight flathead, big ears. Come on. What are you
talking about?
He says he's looking for somebody who knows about current
affairs in East Washington. Talking about Dick like he's
watching why What are you looking for in a bathing suit?
I'm looking for a woman who's good and currently
is so stupid. It's so degrading. It really is so incredibly low.
And we're and we're upset about Marines pissing on Taliban. Are
you kidding me this unsalted every single woman in on the
planet?
Well, I think most of them like Mickey got a kick out of it.
Because it's so stupid. I will play I got one more thing which
was an ad that played during this thing. And I this is a
little This changes the subject because this to me, I just
caught this meme. And I'm thinking after the Superbowl
after every Super Bowl, they take the quarterback and he says
what are you doing? I'm going to Disneyland right? I'm going to
Disneyland or I'm going to Disney World if it was placed in
Florida, right. So so I just here's what I envisioned some
douchebag marketing guy got into the company.
Disney parks are absolutely the place to create lasting
memories. This is my first time in Disney and I'm never going to
forget this
moment. My favourite thing to do is to walk around I just loved
seeing everything. I absolutely loved reading the princess
and having fun on the ride.
I think we're all taking home precious memories.
Oh my goodness. I don't think there's any other way to
describe Disney the magical. I hope I can come back to Disney
as soon as possible and with my entire family. Yeah,
it's ABC. No, no, I'm
just saying but when did they change it from Disneyland to
Disney? Okay, good point. Ah yes, it's branding. It's a
branding exercise.
Yeah, it's a total branding exercise that I think stinks.
Yeah. I don't want it what Disney I'm going to Disney Oh
what are you going to the what are you going to work for him on
a movie set? You got you working for ABC now what do you mean
you're going to Disney? But this is the douchebag marketing guy
yeah game his MS. had a meeting go in there. The girl says she's
going to Disneyland what is somebody in Florida gonna think?
Yeah,
they're pissed off we need we need to broaden
different names a different brand.
All right. So John, while you were doing all the hard work?
Yep. I was just goofing off reading legislation. I figured
love reading legislation.
I do. It's it's crazy. i It's I think I'm good at it. Well,
you're getting better. Yeah. So you gave me some homework
because we we looked at the Stop Online Piracy Act. We look at
the protection of internet Intellectual Property Act, which
are essentially identical bar at that SOPA has a whole bunch of
extra stuff in there about fake military parts and fake drugs
and badges, badges with brands on it. But they but they both of
them kind of want to mess around with the With DNS, and so you're
thinking, which I think was was was a pretty good lead was that
maybe this was all to create a smokescreen for open, which is
the armour Eisah
bill, yes, as
the online protection and enforcement digital Trade Act.
So I pulled that up, which I don't think has actually been
submitted, it appears to only be in draft form. And so I looked
at that, and, and I'm going through it, I'm like, you know,
this is actually not too bad. It's, again, a lot of the same
language, all and it all refers to Lanham Act stuff, and you
know, very, very typical, but it doesn't have the pewte the
punitive measures in there, the so there's nothing about DNS
jiggling. There is the same provisions about stopping. And
it's all it's all basically about a domain names that are
registered outside of the United States. That's what that's what
all of this is really about. So called right. But of course, if
you have a bitly, URL shortener dot L, Y, you're registered in
Libya. So it would it would pertain to you as well. And in
in, in the case of open, they're essentially saying, well, we
need to have a very traditional course, if there's a dispute,
you have what's called a I think, a 377 judge, which is a
or maybe a 337. Judge, which is a very traditional copyright, or
trademark process. If they they will go and stop. If you're if
you're selling goods to Americans, and they can stop
PayPal, for instance, from with a cease and desist order, from
processing payments and advertising can also be stopped
and nothing about DNS. And actually, I kind of liked open
because it has a provision in there where you have to deposit
a bond if you're going to go after someone's you can't have
frivolous. You know, just like people walking around said, hey,
get him off. So you have to it doesn't say how high the bond
has to be, but at least it's a good start. And I'm like, Well,
this, this doesn't make any sense. How can I government
actually doing something right? This This can't this can't be
good. So as I'm digging deeper, I'm like, somewhere we're
missing something. We're missing something. Right? And this it's
gonna be so blatantly clear that we're just idiots for not seeing
it. That's the way it would work. Yeah. So the first clue
came to me from let's see the the Obama Administration
released here we go. You know, we had that we the people
petition thing. Yeah. Well, you can go online, you can say, hey,
you know, how about making that? Well, of course, everyone has
gone online and said, Let's make marijuana legal. And they come
back with some bullcrap response. So, on the 14th, which
was yesterday, Obama administration responded to the
We the People petitions on SOPA, and online piracy. And this is
an answer, which comes from Aneesh Chopra, who is our Chief
Technology Officer and Assistant to the President, along with
Howard Schmidt, who was a special assistant to the
presidents on cybersecurity. And he's the Cybersecurity
Coordinator for national security staff. And Victoria
Espinel, who is the intellectual property enforcement
coordinator. So these are the people who have the president's
ear, so to speak. And I'm reading through this. And I'll
just read a little bit of it, because this is where I started
to get my first clues. So you know, blah, blah, blah, combat
online piracy, very important, we must avoid creating new
cybersecurity risks or disrupting the underlying
architecture of the Internet. proposed laws must not tamper
with the technical architecture of the Internet through
manipulation of the domain name system, like well, okay, that's
pretty good. And then they actually right here, let us be
clear, dash dash. online piracy is a real problem that harms the
American economy threatens jobs, blah, blah, blah. This is just
not a matter for legislation. We expect and encourage all private
parties, including both content creators and internet platform
providers working together to adopt voluntary measures and
best practices, practices to reduce online piracy. So I'm
like, okay, so looks like they're away against the DNS
thing. And I've been looking into DNS extensively. You know,
have you ever heard of open NIC you've ever heard of those guys?
Yeah. Yeah. They've been around for a while. Yeah, it's very
cool. I mean, there's also one before them called alter NIC.
Right? And it's very cool, because it's just a perception
that we have to go through these root domain name servers. If we
all said, Hey, tomorrow, we'll do a different service that
isn't run by and here comes ICANN, the Internet Corporation
for a same net Corporation authority assigned names I
believe, you know, then we could do changed to something else.
But of course, you know, that would take an effort for the
entire world to change their DNS servers in there, it had
to do a lookup on could you could do a double lookup, that's
not a big deal. I
mean, you just need to change one piece of configuration, but
you know, the world is not set up that way. And we're gonna
happen, right? So I'm looking around, I'm like, we're missing
something, we're missing something, we're missing
something. And then all of a sudden, Bada bing, at this very
moment, just announced, I can is releasing it a new capability
for new generic top level domains. So what this means that
is that in addition, to.com.net.org, and then we
have, you know, the.cc, and then we have the international domain
names, and dot info, and dot mobi, and all this stuff. Now,
any anybody can essentially register a generic top level
domain, so we could have.no agenda. And that, so my website
would be adam.no agenda, and your website will be john.no
agenda, and we could register domain names, and sell them or
do whatever we want, if we are in possession of $185,000.
Right, because that has
been proposed in the last year, and it's going to be begin
implementation in the next few weeks. Right.
So while it's now it's now open, so in April, they start but it's
now open. So I go to them.
By the way, it's only open for suggestion. You got to give them
$185,000 And
that's just the vetting process. Oh, yeah.
Then you're out $185,000 There's no return of your money.
Correct. You can get financial aid though and then it only
costs 45,000 which is a deal. It's a steal with this financial
aid package they put together so I'm like hmm, okay, maybe maybe
I'm we're looking in the wrong place. Maybe everyone's over
here, looking at all this stuff or something else is happening.
And so I'm looking into ICANN a little bit and and I'm looking
through the new rule book did you know by the way that I can
which they say is not for profit, but please is run by a
guy named rod Backstrom. Do you know this guy rod Backstrom? No.
Okay. Well, he previously,
I can't say that for sure. I might have met him, but I don't.
You know, he's one of these guys. He's like, he would have
run a.com company in the bubble. That's what he looks like. But
he served previously as the director of the National
Cybersecurity centre. So this guy is a shill. Yeah, this is
this is an office within the Department of Homeland Security.
So now I'm like, Oh, okay. You have my interest. And he
appeared on PBS. In a very long, long piece, actually. 10
minutes, I just clipped a little bit, which is what gave me the
clue as to what we've been missing, along with a guy from
the Coalition for Responsible internet domain oversight, which
is some bull crap advertising organisation because of course,
the another smokescreen, this being thrown up is oh, this is
really bad. Because now we'll have all these cyber squatters
will come in and register dot Nike. Yeah, for $185,000. I'm
going to come in and register dot Nike and trying cyber squat.
And so that's bullcrap. But something comes up in the
conversation. And it's not Backstrom. But it's the other
guy who says something. And when I when I heard that, I went,
Okay, I've got it
Sybil, and Dan Jaffe is in that $185,000 price tag discouraged
squatters, where you could have bought a donate a domain name
pretty cheaply once upon a time, that's pretty high table stakes
for somebody who wants to buy it on spec
is certainly something that raises the cost. And in fact,
top level domain, sellers have said, if you want to top level
domain that, in fact, you might need up to $800,000 to a million
dollars at minimum for all of the various costs that would be
involved in that would have nothing to do with the situation
where you'd have an auction where people are fighting over a
name, which can go into the multi millions of dollars. But
there is a group called Credo the Coalition for Responsible
internet domain oversight, which represents 161. Associations,
groups and companies that are opposing this rollout is
premature, who all believe that this is going to create major
pressures on companies to do defensive registration or
dramatically increase the amount of tracking that they will have
to do of the internet and cost them millions of dollars in that
regard. And they have strongly said that it would be premature
to roll this out at this time. And another point that's very
significant as there are substantial holes in the system
that have been pointed out by the Federal Trade Commission by
other police organisations around the world by the Internet
agency organisations, what kind of holes? Do you mean? Just so
we know very, very serious situations where if you start
one of the protections has been built into the system or alleged
protections has been built into the system, there's something
called as thicker who is approach which would give you
more information supposedly, about who actually owns an IP
address an internet address.
Okay, this is the thicker who has who is system have you heard
of this term, John? Never. So currently, you can go in and you
can register a domain name. And you can do it in several ways,
you can basically say, my name is Dan dildo, and my number is
555555555. And it'll register that way or if you want, you can
register for an additional fee and that'll be through a privacy
system. But if you can still put Dan dildo in there, the thicker
do who is system will be a requirement of all of these new
generic top level domain systems. And here it is, I can
will have the raa this is the the registration authentication
authority to incorporate for the first time register our
commitments to verify who is data. So instead of you just
going in and registering a domain and just putting down
whatever information you could be Pay Pal or wherever you want
to pay for it, you will have to verify yourself and all of your
information will have to be correct and it will be checked
at multiple levels. So the registrar's will be checked by
ICANN to verify that you are who you say you are. So I went back
and I saw in the on the cybersecurity a document that
the Obama administration put out. Under domain name news and
opinion in this future individuals and businesses can
quickly and easily obtained the tools necessary to set up their
own presence online. Domain names and addresses are
available, secure and properly maintained without onerous
licences or unreasonable disclosures of personal
information. So this whole SOPA PIPA open thing is a smokescreen
because what is happening is you will now be required by law to
verify when you register a domain name, including
international domain names. So what is going to happen is the
dot coms and the dotnet will be deprecated. And they will either
have to comply with the thicker who is system or they'll have to
go away so that everyone is going to comply. So
you know, just push this post facto does everyone who
currently has a domain name have to comply within a period of
time for the not yet so
I think this is step one is every new domain that you
register under and there'll be a lot of cool ones I mean, you
know, you'll have all kinds of new opportunities to register
you'll have to do it now. So it is a complete
identification this national ID cards Yes, yes. corporated into
a law that looks like something about IP when it's really about
getting people to finally cough up who they really are, are
wrecked.
And no one is looking at this. Now
I've never even thought about something that's crazy, crazy
talk.
And here registrar's are will be obliged to vet registrants who
is details for accuracy. I cannot be obliged to vet
registrar's proxy privacy services would continue. But
police will have a single global agreement that I can would sign
with registries and registrar's modelling on the existing ra
contract. Such an agreement would make it easier for police
to quickly have sites taken down based on breaches in the terms
and conditions. So that's how it's gonna work. It's not about
messing up the DNS that was just a red herring. This is about you
having to register and prove who you are. Otherwise, you can't
get a domain name. You. If you get a subdomain of something
else tough crap. Those guys will take down the whole site based
upon who they know, is on the other end of that server. This
is all they ever wanted. And I can is playing right into it and
frankly, is disgusting. And Who died and made the American
government boss.
Well, that happened a while back. Yeah. Well, I'm
just saying. So so all of this is it's moot and no one I've
I've looked all over. I've been trying to find news articles. No
one is talking about the thick Whois system except in the
actual documents of ICANN, where they've had studies and edits or
whatever agree as a good idea, we should just make it so you
have to authenticate.
And so yes, sounds fine. Yeah.
So so that's what it is on top of that, I will say is pretty
obvious that when you have one of the biggest a site like
Reddit, where typically people talk about the National Defence
Authorization Act, droning American civilians, about all
the bullcrap and lies that go on when you shut down that site to
distract it so people can watch some stupid hearing, which is
moot because it's all happening in the background somewhere
else. That's pretty obvious why that's taking place just to
distract everyone. So you don't talk about the real issues?
Well, that's, well, there's really good value for you. And
you were me with this, you would say to me, da,
over here, nothing to see. Look at that.
So we can stop that you can write a column about a job?
Because yeah,
I yeah, if you give me just give me that subsection, and then I
can, yeah, it's obvious what's going on. That's pretty good. I
like it,
I just look for the thick, I
know, you find something. And it's just funny the way you
operate, because I can just see that you couldn't find anything
right away. So he started scrapping, he started flailing
like, you know, somebody yell at my arm.
I can't believe it. I have to show up tomorrow was something
worthwhile? This is no good. Got nothing. And then I still wonder
why I do it.
Actually, even more in there, but I think that's probably
gonna Yeah, I think you're right. But did they've been
talking about trying, you know, there's been, it's been a
complaint and law enforcement again, you know, they just do
anything they can, so they don't have to do any work. And heaven
forbid, they'd have to do some research. And you know, and
there's a lot of paperwork involved, you got to go to a
judge to get somebody to crack open one of these private
private deals where, you know, somebody's put their domain up,
Donna, it'll
be really easy, hey, it's authenticated, we even have,
you're gonna have to, like show some government ID you're gonna
have, there's all these different rules for verification
of who you are. And this protocols, right, there's all
these RFCs. And that was, it gets into a lot of technical
detail, but it's very similar to the domain lock system, which is
the extensions to the registrar process.
Yeah, I can point out something else that that's always a
possibility of happening to, since you brought this up. And I
do have a very long clip about this, which is actually three
clips and one discussing the fact that do we have essentially
a Jim Crow system where we're Dr. Ron Paul talks about this
constantly, that black people have been incarcerated for minor
drug offences. There's a book out that discusses some of the
privileges that are taken away from people, I would also
believe that felons will not be allowed to own a donate domain
name, Oh,
good point, oh, it's gonna get much worse. And by the way, this
is not tomorrow. This is a very carefully thought out process.
Because you know, because very sign doesn't want to move to the
thick, who is system right away, because you know, they then they
will, well, they'd have to go back, and then they want to do
it properly. They want to charge everybody, so but they have to
go back. And basically, everyone then has to verify and
authenticate for the domain names you have, can you imagine
we have like 900 pointing to our website, we're gonna lose a lot
of appeal and be like, I don't think I want anyone to know who
I am. So those have just dropped by the wayside. So they don't
want to do that until they have a simple slick way for people to
basically go along with the system. So first, it will be the
generic level top domain names, then they're gonna force
VeriSign to do it, or VeriSign, or all those domain names will
be deprecated. And we'll get some kind of lower priority you
watch. It's a very obvious system.
Now it's all part of the same old, you know, by the way, the
questions and marching ahead,
question in the chat room. Yes, this will apply to international
domain names as well. Yes, Id NS as they're called. I've read up
on this you can tell
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Yeah, passport, social security number for sure.
I I registered Adam dot Adam dot Geek on open Nick. Thought that
was kind of cool. I mean messing around with DNS. I mean, we have
our own no agenda DNS server. Anyway. I digress. Ron Paul
saves the world.com is now forwarding to no agenda.
show.com. That's great. Although I think we should probably have
that forward to Ron Paul 2000 twelve.com.
Yeah, let's read that.
I think we should I think that would be by the way. Did you see
that? That blog post on the daily Paul
on the one that talked about you? What it
talked about me? Shall I read you the headline talked about
me? The headline. Adam curry is a horrible person for ever
suggesting Doug weed was anything other than awesome. And
the funny thing is
all publicity is good publicity. I liked that headline. But
you're not mentioned
anywhere in the article. And you're the one that was actually
saying he couldn't be a shield. Like what am i I'm like, I'm
like the heat deflector. That is so jury. That is so unfair.
And by the way, that guy shows up in 2008 during the Ron Paul
campaign back then, too, so he's probably but he's been around
for a while.
Yeah, but it hurt me. You know, you don't know what
you ate. Let you lapped it up.
No, here's what I don't like. So, you know, first of all, I
only asked a question only out of the goodness of my heart.
Just like I hope this guy is okay. You know, and he's not
being there to muck it up, which I think is a very fair question.
Yeah. And the very things we defend Ron Paul on like the
media calling him a kook and old and a codger and wacky all these
Ron Paul people are calling me conspiracy nut Kook wacky washed
up VJ like that hurts man.
I didn't see that one
washed up MTV VJ who gives a crap about him and it hurts.
I'll be honest,
I would find it offensive. It's very offensive. Anyway, I did
put a link to the show. Yeah, that's good.
So welcome. I
have a couple of new listeners that are
they came in they listen to the show. Like what is this crap
about the man Miss America Pageant? What does this crap
show no wonder you're the last VJ talking about talking. And by
the way, it'll be Adam Curry was talking about Miss America
Pageant.
obsessed.
Obsessed. You
Okay, that's douche bag.
Anyway, I got two emails from people who I respect highly on
the inside I and I'm not allowed to tell you who they are,
because it will be highly inappropriate the information
they, they sent me but extrapolating from this, Doug
weed is a good guy. But more importantly, and this is what I
was kind of hoping he has very deep ties to a lot of big
religious money. So I'm happy. I don't care how Ron Paul gets the
money, as long as he gets lots of it because you need it. It's
crazy. You know, just to get the signatures for South Carolina
and cost like $100,000 If you don't have a grassroots
campaign, obviously, but just the it's like the it's expensive
to become president. No wonder woman needs a billion. So I'm
happy I'm happy that wheat is in. I'm just always on the watch
for anybody and everything. You know, it's not a bad thing.
Besides that, we got an email this morning. And I've actually
put these pictures in the show notes at 374 dot na show
notes.com Not really a no agenda PR initiative, but it's so cool.
It's from he doesn't want me to mention his name for some
obvious reasons because he will go to jail. But he's our night
and one of the guy we knighted on the spot in Hoboken, New
Jersey at the at the no agenda, the hot pockets to a meet up,
says Adam and John as a result of your continuous reportage on
domestic drone activity in the overwhelming ignorance of the
general public. The general public possesses regarding
drones I felt obligated as an artist, and the one who
propagates memes set forth by the no agenda roundtable to try
and help away raise awareness on the subject. And what better way
than to use the instrument of fear just as our evil overlords
do to enslave us I fabricated real street signs that pose as
official NYPD warnings of the impending drone surveillance and
imminent use of force. Have you seen these signs? And you see
the picture? I
got it. I got the CC, but I didn't but the pictures weren't
attached.
Oh my god. Okay, so well, they're in the show notes. I'll
just read it. So the actual metal signs, and he's posted
them on we
can all have made by the way that is one of the sign makers
down the street from me.
So he has so there's one it's underneath of no parking anytime
sign and it says attention authorised drone strike zone 8am
to 8pm including Sunday. And she has another one. Yeah, it's very
funny local statutes enforced by drones. Let's see. What's the
next one here? Yeah, these are great drone activity and
progress. And as all as NYPD on it, which is hilarious. He
authorised drone strike zone and then he has, but he's very smart
because he has the sign. And then on a wall behind it, you'll
have like a beautiful city statement from you know, from
either the Constitution or one of our founding fathers. So you
see in the foreground authorised drone strike zone and then in
the background constitution of government once changed from
freedom can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost
forever. And it's art. It's like Banksy style. It's really easy
stuff really, really good.
In terms of conceptual conceptual performance are
really really good and and I am very proud of what I like it.
I'm proud of it.
What was the drone? What was the last one? You mentioned the
drone? Drone? Surveillance error or something? What was it?
I just closed the file. That's okay. Nevermind.
I'll look at him later. But I think this these would be worth
the I wouldn't mind having a couple of those signs and
putting them somewhere.
Oh absolutely. They're beautiful. I'm just trying to
think what was the last one I mentioned the drone strike zone
or authorised drones at strike zone 8am to 8pm including
Sunday?
No is the last one that was the first one
let me see if I can bring it up here drone activity in progress.
Yeah. Local statutes enforced by drone I think that's my like
that one too. Yeah, actually
I like them all.
But statues
I'm proud that I don't That's love that's that's better than
donations really. They have that happen that really you know,
hey, you and I will be on the street time with it was with a
sign but at least people will be waking up so I think that's
good.
So the drones nailless Exactly. Hey, everybody else you
can go out and do something else. If you can draw street
signs. You can propagate the formula is this. We go out. We
hit people in the mouth
you got the t shirt Shut up. us
Oh, there's so much going on. I'm glad you all showed up for
today's show because we got a we got a singer. I got a real
Zinger.
So we did catch a meme that somebody suggested that we look
at that got a male in the morning, recorded the show.
Bones on Fox.
What is this show? I've not seen this show. Is this a doctor
show?
Yeah, but it's different than the this is about a woman who is
the pathologist at a you know, like a coroner type person. But
she has Aspergers.
So she's kind of like, nutty. She Well,
she's very focused and she's gotten. She's got no, she's got
no personality. Basically, she has no sex. And now she's just
she's pregnant as a matter of fact. But anyway, she is a
genius. She's the smartest person in the room. She's like,
you know, a lot of Jews
are geniuses, of course, many
Bill Gates is one. So, so they decided to drop a few bombshells
and with just total bull crap. But play they got two clips from
this. And I think this is why they wanted us to the guy said,
You gotta get this shot. It's got no agenda written all over
it. So play that hacktivist thing and you get a feeling for
what's going on. First of all, the activists guy is evil and
evil villain, you have to remember that
I am evil. I am anonymous
sweets here is one of our better profilers. And he seems to think
that it's possible that due from the Washington standard said he
thinks as recurring Yeah, he covered my trial. But I'll tell
you the same thing I told him when he called I'm not a
criminal. I'm an activist activist that took out the LDS
complaint network in the US military defenceless, for what
was it three and a half hours, the company that built that
network got the contract because of campaign contributions. I
expose the corruption. I'm a patriot. Soldiers could have
died. That's exactly why I did it.
Wow. By the way, this, this falls in nicely with CNNs
profile on anonymous. And if you saw that, no, I recorded it. And
it was so dumb. But you know, they keep talking about a nonce.
If you're if you're a member of anonymous, then you're an anon.
Which is, which is the new meme. And this is this comes right
back to the ICANN thing, you won't be able to be a non
anymore, you watch
you walk. Yeah, no, this whole thing is coming. This is a bunch
of propaganda. They're feeding the public into using popular
media to do it, which is bones. And bones is a very popular
show. And so people are watching this, whoa, whoa, this horrible
person, the guy gets away with it, by the way in the show. And
he also and he's got a brace. He's killing people left and
right. But he's got an ankle bracelet on, they don't know how
he's getting away with it. But the one that was the real eye
roller was the one is fractals on a bone. I'm going to I'm
going to set it up by explaining what's actually going to be told
here and you can just hear it for yourself. And I'm going to
explain it the guy there in the office and all of a sudden all
the computers blow up. And he says there was a virus attack a
horrible virus actual smoke
coming out and like sparks fire. No, no, no, really.
Yes. And they had this spread with them with a you know, co2
canister. Now, so the question reads, so they asked each other
Oh, well, what could have caused this horrible virus to infect
our computers? We have not download you download anything?
No, I haven't downloaded anything. Have you put a disk?
No, we haven't done anything there is but these things are
secure. And then the guy looks at a bone and he and a one on
one or the woman and looks at the bone that they scanned in to
determine who you know who was doing a QR code. And she looks
at the bone and discovers how the virus got into the system
play it
oh my god. What? In some kind of fractal pattern whoever did this
wrote malware on bone that that took down a million bucks worth
of computers who knew? computer genius he wants us to know that
he doesn't need a computer
plot but he has an angle.
I'm telling you this guy is a genius
I'm why what
is your QR code? Basically? A QR, a fragment Korea whatever
it was, it was like it was it was like That's amazing. Or is
the public show? Or do they think the public is? I guess
they do. Yes. So stupid. John, you just won't be on stupid.
This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen on a TV show trying to
pull this I mean it's not even it's beyond science fiction. so
idiotic
Well, let's see how the Miss America here Miss America
Pageant ratings increased 47% for ABC telecast? Yeah, well,
this is this is it my friend? Yeah, we're done. We people
don't understand. Let's see the homie how many million people
watch this 47% increase. But in the Battle of the beauty
contest, Miss America also decked Donald Trump's Miss USA
pageant last year by more than a million viewers. First half hour
Miss America was in third place place with five point 25 million
viewers. And it grew to end the night with almost 8 million
viewers.
Oh, it had a growing audience. Yeah.
Well, that's just goes to show, I guess. Yes, the American
public is so stupid. And I just didn't have time because I was
doing all that I can stuff to pull clips from the CNN thing.
But I had it running in the background. And it was just
like, you know, the, the meme now is the Anons. If you do
something bad as a politician or a cop or a judge, then anonymous
will expose your details and ruin your cyber life. That's
that's the mean. Well, they
ruin your credit rate every day. Yeah, they
ruin all that stuff. The Anons Anons. You can't be an anon man,
because I can will force you to authenticate. Well, okay,
well, that's just leading right to it. I've always said I've
said it for years. I'll keep saying it. There's going to be a
point where you're going to have to need a licence to do a
website.
Well, yeah, you will. And it'll be you'll need your driver
we have we actually have the ballgame. podcast licenced.com.
So we'll be able to give you that, and I'm sure it will be
deemed completely official.
This will be the way to grandfather in a bunch of our
people.
Good luck with that. It's possible, it's possible. Sure.
Well, yeah. The only thing for us to do really would be to get
a to get a dot and a generic top level domain. And then, you
know, have it first of all, some would have to sponsor I was like
a million bucks to do it. And then basically, we'd lie about
all the authentication stuff we'd have to fabricate that
doesn't sound like a good plan. Now that I just said it
actually.
No, not at all. So
speaking of techno experts, a very interesting conversation on
C span. And this included Ian Schuler,
by the way, there is a.na. Oh, really, Namibia? Oh, we may we
should do a deal with Namibia.
That was doo doo. Hey, nivia. Let's have a meeting. We hate
those Nigeria. Guys. We keep getting an email from now we
want to talk to you because you don't have any princesses. But
in Schuler is works at the State Department. He is the guy in
charge of the internet in a suitcase.
Oh, the internet and a suitcase. I love that name.
Well, he was asked, and he spilled the beans. Now remember,
this is very expensive programme, this internet in a
suitcase. We remember we reviewed the documents. And I
think there was $30 million set aside for the Internet in a
suitcase project. And when you hear internet in a suitcase,
what do you what do you envision John? What does it sound like it
is to you?
Well, when I first heard it, I was thinking it was some sort of
a kit that you could you know, that maybe had a satellite feed
and you could get on the internet. But as you read more
recently, I'm led to believe that is the entire internet
jammed on to some mega terabytes worth of whatever you can get
into a suitcase. Well, this is
a rather long clip, but I think it's well worth listening to.
Because, you know, we have our Secretary of State coming out so
you know, blues for Clinton. We've got the internet in a
suitcase. We're so cool. We're helping everybody. Like, like
guys smuggling suitcases with internet and stuff. Sounds
great, right? Sounds like we're really like America F Yeah.
Here's Ian explaining how it came to be and what it is.
So if you want to just elaborate a little on how this thing
works, that helps people get around any any government
intervention?
Sure. Let me first start by cautioning you about starting
memes. And what's interesting is the actual the true history of
the internet in a suitcase was that when Jim Glantz did a
really great job in this article contacted us and said, so what
is it that you're doing? We explained, well, we're doing all
this programming, we're developing the software can run
a whole bunch of different devices and turn them into
bubble, but the blog just ended up not really captured anyone's
attention. It's like so what is the thing that comes out of it
like, well, it's sort of a distributed infrastructure. And
it's like so we have a photographer coming tomorrow.
What is he going In a photograph, and we're like,
that's a good question. And so literally, we went out and
bought a suitcase and took a bunch of equipment that we had
around the office. That is sort of the examples of what this
technology can run on and put it into a suitcase.
Can you believe this crap? But yeah,
it's just basically a couple of routers, and maybe some code.
Now it's even better than that. I just wanted to stop to pause
here for a second just to say, really, you you you fleeced the
press, by throwing some crap into a suitcase, you bought that
day for the photographer, so that you would here's our
internet in the suitcase, really? That's what you did you
idiot. That's, that's insulting.
This is Clip of the Day really hit the jingle. I wasn't ready
for that I
have so much more than ever are
you don't even know what the Clip of the Day is? clickable.
not caught off guard by the clip, but it gets better. Well,
it's a clip of the day it should.
And the rest is history. So I view the internet history. rest
is history. That's right. The rest is people that had been
Lucifer standing. We've got the very important internet in a
suitcase project. $30 million. Well, okay, II and douchebag
Schuler, once you explain what's in your internet in the
suitcase, for real,
it's actually a visual aid gone out of control.
It was a meme.
Like goats, the only better.
But the idea behind what we're developing, which is actually
the important component here is that you can use the
technologies, the hardware that are on the ground today. In
these locations, you don't actually need to pair a drop in
a giant internet in a suitcase, you can transform people's
available cell phones, laptops and computers, wireless routers
that you might pick up here in the States and better listen
very closely, particularly sis admins, network administrators,
you're gonna laugh when you hear what they're actually doing, buy
or what have you respond to your telecommunications
infrastructure. And if you use software, like the type that
we're creating, you don't need a central cell tower. You don't
even need an Internet uplink to communicate locally. And you can
imagine, if you can set up a system whereby there is no
centre, there's no point of surveillance, there's no point
of control, there's no point to shut down. There's just a bunch
of different equipment that people are turning on turning
off, it's creating this network of connectivity, for sharing
information for distributing the phone pictures before your phone
actually gets confiscated. That that becomes a very powerful
tool. If you have an uplink of any sort, a satellite phone, a
dial up modem, etc. This will spread that connectivity
throughout that network. But if you don't have an internet
uplink, you still maintain local connectivity. And so you can
think about this is what's the first thing anyone that has an
office with a bunch of computers? Do. They network all
of those computers together and start sharing files, printers,
other services and applications? What we're doing the same, how
do we take that same powerful tool and put it into the hands
of anyone that wants to set up a network? So the technologies
actually the components of it exists today. And what we're
really focusing on is, how do we make them user friendly? And how
do we integrate these best of technologies from projects all
around the globe, into a single package that can be transported,
not in a gigantic suitcase, but on your cell phone on a USB
drive on a CD ROM on your laptop or any other storage medium on
Earth.
So what this ass wipe is saying was it was the Vic coonara.
Behind this, of course,
they took $30 million and gave it to companies to basically
create something that we in 1994 called an intranet. Essentially
they just configured Ubuntu on a stick and that's your internet
in a suitcase.
Really,
it's this is so unbelievable.
It's just a boon to on a stick
that's what it sounds like or a boon to live probably something
one of the things buffalo to live to loving to live and then
a Jane Doe knows when that just self booting without destroying
the OS you have
it boots from the from from a thumb mistake. Yeah. And then it
has a one that turns your Wi Fi into an access point. You've got
a router big effing deal. $30 million, really? And then to lie
about it and make it sound Oh, spiffy is internet in a
suitcase.
I swear to God, I was under the impression that was the entire
internet downloaded into the real X number of terabytes
because it's doable. I mean, I mean, Google has a car via the
Internet Yeah, because they have a million servers they have more
than one copy obviously right but
still it's like it's just it's so insulting and then to laugh
about
what burn heads those media folks. Yeah, you're idiots you
douchebags for the day.
Yeah, well, you think that's good.
You're not gonna top that. Oh, yeah, I'm
gonna top it now. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm going to top it. I'm going
to top it with the Reverend Manning.
Oh, okay. Well, we all Yeah, yeah, I was thinking of pulling
this clip too but I figured if it's Reverend Manning you're
gonna pull it
strong Paul you got to talk about you got to talk about it.
And the media can slam you in hot internet slamming you now
you're not only being witness protection programme wouldn't
run me and John Huntsman and Newt Gingrich Rick Santorum, but
you're dealing the media you're flipping all on their behinds
Ron Paul. Go ahead now get out there. And what? Obama's behind
constitution He is holy and told me he's a criminal. I guarantee
you'll be the next president of America hands down. You might
say Welcome to Tea Party. Your weapon Evangelica your weapon
the media. You got a strong crowd of supporters. Hey Ryan
crowns. Ron Paul supporters. I want to take my hat off to you
guys genius he's
he's a he's amazing. And I was thinking this you get to clip
about the about the Romney and and Huntsman being black
No, I don't have that. Oh, I missed that one. No. Now
we'll get the clip for the next show or you can maybe find it
when he comes out with this theory that Romney Willard no no
it's not a right Romney's bike no it's not Santorum it's
Gingrich is blockbasis that on the thing on the theory that
Gingrich his real name is Newton Leroy is a nobody but their kids
and his daddy never appeared he's he's a he's an orphan kid
they don't know who his father
okay
he's obviously black
now, instead of looking for that clip I spent my time doing this
with the good
That's Right Reverend Come on. Come
on Reverend Manning talking about him
he is wholly eligible. He's a feminine man I'm thinking GX
two can make a mix out of that somehow
Oh yeah. Yeah, I think GX to programme we're gonna
weapon weapon weapon I just gotta I'm almost I just gotta
have that I just gotta have that handy in case
holy ink told me he's a criminal weapon weapon I love that guy.
Fantastic.
I made my day
Yeah. Wait, do you get to the black thing
Hey, whatever whatever makes
it happy only recovery first a Romney has Willard rom which is
his first name.
Oh.
That just made my day.
Right. Oh, that guy's the best. Yeah, wish he would do more
material.
They should put them on The Tonight Show or that? That'd be
I
think he made the suggestion that he should have one of these
talk shows not that idiot. Mush mouth Sharpton?
Well, yeah. Really? Really? No, I mean, it's fine. He could
never be on on MSNBC or think no. No, he's, he's fine. Where
he is.
He goes. I was thinking I was thinking by the way he did.
Opening up the door to the creative or consulting company
for a little short. Yeah, sure.
I'm sorry. The meeting will come to order.
So they had they were having these issues with Keith
Olbermann. Yeah, already. not current. So you know, he queried
in quick news. They gave him a piece of the company, but he
doesn't seem to want to be a manager. He's a dick. He's a
total dick. So and he's really he's got a twit Twitter feed,
and he just is mean to everybody. He's a mean person.
And I was thinking what? You know, they brought in a bunch of
people because they want to compete with MSNBC. Yeah. Wow,
that is the dumbest thing in the world because it gal Gore if he
wasn't such a dumb, dumb guy. He would want to compete with Fox.
Because if you can split the fox audience, you bring up the
liberal voices louder instead of splitting as already dying
audience and killing to network and you
can make a lot more money with those mics. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, that's yeah, that's like, let's set the bar really low.
Let's compete with MSLs low,
the low hanging fruit bone. That hit the ground. Yeah, really?
The rotting fruit on the ground? That's so stupid. Yeah, yeah.
Well, da. Because no one ever hires us to do this stuff.
Now we'll get a job eventually.
We're gonna, eventually we'll have to get a
job to work for.
You do realise that, don't you? And, and it really it irks me
when I see you know how we're just getting by. And you know
that James Cameron? Man, that guy's great. That guy's so
awesome. To promote. Titanic 3d. He thinks the whole cruise ship
coming out in April. Titanic 3d.
I like the connection. Haven't
you already heard them say on television so close to the 100th
anniversary of Titanic? They keep saying that. You didn't
hear that?
No, I have been avoiding all the Titanic 3d promotions and I
didn't even you can or you can attend points for considering
the sinking of this idiotic cruise ship and killing 100
people and then arresting the the Yeah, he doesn't get
arrested the captain and then we haven't heard anything from him.
Right. They arrest him to keep them from talking.
Yeah, here, I think well, there's a theory out there. So
what happened? Well, let's just listen to the news report about
it. Well, tonight
the rescue efforts are the recovery efforts we should call
them have been stopped for the night. There were divers out all
day long looking under the area of the ship that is still under
the water level. The Captain has been arrested. He's being
investigated, as you said for manslaughter and abandoning
ship, which is a huge receiver a very serious maritime offence.
He was off the ship before the safety of the his passengers had
been provided for and that is the grounds on which the
authorities here in Italy were able to arrest him or have him
have him stopped and officially investigated is how it works.
Within the judicial system here. Tomorrow morning, the divers
will go back down under the water level to start looking at
the rest of the areas of the ship they weren't able to take a
look at today. All of the passengers that are surviving
have been moved off to the Italian mainland in various
cities. There are a lot of people in Rome, a lot of
interviews, a vecchia and Semin Sanbona, which was another port
of call for this particular cruise ship. Those people will
have to they they don't have the passports of items and other
documents that have to be provided for. They'll need
clothing, they'll need to shelter they obviously need to
get their their legal documents, they had to leave on the ship in
order, blah, blah,
blah. So you're right, they took the captain off to shut him up.
So no one could talk to him because this was not a ship run
aground. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever
heard. This was either a collision with a submarine,
which I think is possible. I also I'm not an air guy. I'm not
a sea guy. But you know, you see the ship is listing to the port
side. But the damage is on the starboard side if you get a
gash, or maybe there's more damage we don't see on the other
side. But if that gash is what made the chips leak and start to
sink, that wouldn't list to the other side. Not at all. Yeah, I
don't I don't know,
marine engineer to know how these things sink. Water inside.
They've down they go. But
there was and this is one of these crazy Russian reports. But
it came out immediately that there was a signature detected
of a torpedo fired from a kilo class submarine and the Izola
del glio and that there were only two submarines in the area
possessing kilo class torpedoes both belonging to the Islamic
Republic of Iran navy.
That could be also a wouldn't surprise
me man. It would not surprise me if we're already at war. We just
don't really know it.
Lord, definite economic war
for sure. And well, we're also you know, we're blowing up
scientists and stuff. And, you know, there's a lot of back and
forth here.
And then we're also trying a way I still think my theory about
goading them is still in play. I have a clip from, from the News
Hour, from the national treasure on Iran that I just thought was
kind of interesting. In a word, deconstructing, I think it falls
into this conversation, which one is observations on the
Iranian assassination? Okay.
The two previous meetings between the Europeans, Americans
and others in Iran have really not been productive. So what is
the thinking now, then about the impact of these this covert
campaign on impact one way or another on the status of the
sanctions or the effort of the same? Well, it's a bad timing,
if nothing else, I mean, I personally very much against
these kinds of targeted assassinations of nuclear
officials. But you have to wonder what why now and it's in
you're trying to get Iran to the table. Pressure is always a
precarious thing to apply. It can backfire. The sense in the
United States at least was that it was it is going to get Iran
to the table. But you don't want to drive Iran into a corner
where they may decide to do the very thing you're trying to
prevent, namely, build nuclear weapons, right.
Yeah, the particularly CNN, I have to say, is doing so much to
help this to ratchet this up, in particular. Barbara Starr, you
seen her know, she's the Pentagon. Reporter she's on the
Pentagon beat. And she always shows up she has a little
Pentagon studio over there. She looks like lurch only a female
version of lurch. You've seen it with the with the big thick horn
rimmed glasses. And when you listen without the video,
because that's very distracting in her case. When you listen to
the rhetoric that she is spewing. She is literally being
instructed to ratchet this up and make people very, very
afraid. Let's get straight to our Pentagon correspondent
Barbara Starr. She's got the details. What do we know Barbara
wolf at a time of heightened tensions. The Pentagon still
wants to say this is relatively routine, but listen to what
happened last Friday in the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian
Gulf to both a US Navy warship and a US Coast Guard Cutter. The
Navy warship first up the USS New Orleans was going into the
Persian Gulf. It was going through the Strait of Hormuz
when three Iranian speedboats approached it at high speed and
came within 500 yards at high speed. within the range of this
Navy warship. The Navy warships signalled the Iranians to back
off, they ignored all signals that is in opposition to
standard maritime procedures eventually were told they did
break away another incident the same day a US Coast Guard Cutter
called they by the
way, what is a Coast Guard Cutter doing in the straits in
the in the Straits of Hormuz.
And that's the Department of Homeland Security that's not in
the defence department anymore. The Coast Guard is no longer in
the within the purview of the defence department. So Homeland
Security took them over as you recall.
Well, I do I consulted with what I'm doing there. Well, I
consulted the book of knowledge. The Coast Guard operates on the
Department of Homeland Security during peacetime and can be
transferred to the Department of the Navy by the president at any
time or by Congress during time of war. Funny, I don't think
I've seen that transfer take place unless it was in the
National Defence Authorization Act and we missed it
which is possible, which is possible. That thing is a huge
document.
So here's Barbara to finish it up.
Hey, Doc was up in the Persian Gulf. It was just about 75 miles
east of Kuwait, when it was harassed by high speed Iranian
boats, small boats that came out it also at high speed. The
personnel on board the Coast Guard Cutter said that they
observed Iranians with AK 40 sevens and they believe one of
the machine guns.
That's gonna scare me when I'm on a Coast Guard Cutter. We're
500 yards away. He's got a they've got ak 47 on a rubber
boat has been on
a football field. 300 yards Can you see what's at the other end
of the field? What's if someone's holding the gun or
not? I can't the bullet
from the AK 47 Would arch down into the water from that
distance isn't that it's crazy. It's like we've got a couple of
rubber boats with AK 40 sevens and she's making it sound like
we're at war. The front
of one of those Iranian speedboats was pointed right at
them eventually, and a larger Iranian naval vessel intervened
and those small speedboat backed off routine or not. These types
of encounters are extremely concerning to the US Navy. You
know, the question really is well, how close do you let an
Iranian speedboat get to you before you You have to do
something about it.
I mean, really, that is the Pentagon, like put a wire in
your brain and tell her what to say this is disgusting. And then
you've got to cheat.
But by the way, I get to the poor get to the part that
because I this is interesting, but get to the part where she
asks about why a Coast Guard Cutter is there in the first
place. Go just cut right to that.
What do you mean? It's not in there obvious what? She doesn't
ask that question. Because she
turned me. That's the most obvious question. Would you ask
right at the beginning? That's not
a great question. Hmm.
I would think that she would ask that question. So that could be
explained by these experts on CNN.
Well, have we actually looked up? And let's see, let's see
President transfers. Coast Guard to Navy. Let's say maybe we
missed it. Maybe something happened here
that we didn't use? It could be on the front page of some
newspaper?
I don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it. Now, upon the
declaration of war, or when the President directs the Coast
Guard can be transferred up. I haven't seen it. So I don't
think we've had a declaration of war. Today think that's in
complete violation. But it doesn't matter. Because we've
got that aihole Panetta saying this?
Thoroughly, though, there are those areas that for us are red
lines, red line, number one. We can not allow them to develop a
nuclear weapons. That's a red line. Number two, we cannot
tolerate Iran blocking the Straits of Hormuz. And that's
the red line.
Looks like we're trying to block the strait. Trying to defend it.
We've got the Coast Guard in there. We're doing like what do
you think? We were showing? Oh, I hate us. I
blow up one of our ships. Yeah, like a false flag. You mean
false flag? Yeah. Like so let's blow up the ship. You'll
remember the main Yeah, drop the shipper and be blown up at some
point where it's so jazz, it's sinking. It's trying to get away
because of theirs. And it sinks right there in the middle of the
straits and it clogs up the whole place.
Hold on a second John. I think we have to go to our Pentagon
correspondent for a moment here John we have exclusive footage
here of what's going on in the Straits of Hormuz.
J one
battleship game of strategy from Milton Bradley. You sunk my
battleship. Bunch of eight holes.
That's funny. Well, it's a good catch. It's not the Clip of the
Day but it's damn good. Yeah, but
it's on there you go now once you cut away to no
good maybe you're just kidding me cut right to the Coast Guard.
Let me just see if I can find it. Nope, sorry. I can't find
it. It's not on there. It's just not on there. John. I'm sorry.
Anyway, I love it when we talk about possibilities in the chat
room goes wild like accidents do happen man. Yeah.
Now they have that desktop voice they have
not in my world they don't if you know someone's got a
question. I didn't say this is what happened. But it is weird
that they take the captain immediately and arrest him and
so you will never hear from him again ever. You know that right?
You never going to hear from the guy whose guys just
arrested the guy who knew that? No, he's going to be sent off to
some mountain resort you know outside of the Italian the mouth
mountain what's the Malfi coast or whatever in Italy and just
told to shut up he's not good at that. They know how to shut up.
He's going on a little vacation. Did you see the president show
this week?
I don't watch the president show knowing full well that you will
be watching it.
He brought props to show until this week. He had an actual show
Intel here's where you respond. I'm Wow.
Hi there. As you can see, I brought a few things with me for
this week's video. A padlock a pair of boots, a candle and a
pair of socks. No.
You can only imagine a new format for the show. Wait a
minute, have they hired some other Consulting Group besides
the curry Devorah consulting group who
knows candle a Baris socks? A compass
and a rubber knife? He's going to save the economy
with a rubber knife for
doesn't have a rubber knife is is a candle this listen to it
again what he has is it but he's going to say the economy with
these items.
Hi there. As you can see, I brought a few things with me for
this week's video.
Okay, a padlock padlock. Write it down. John. Do you need these
things? A padlock. pair of boots? pair of boots? Got that?
A candle? A candle?
Got plenty of them. Just women in the house a
pair of socks and a pair of socks.
I gotta buy the whole drawer full of socks.
I'm not having a yard sale.
Oh, okay. Well, it's not a yard sale. Damn.
Which buy socks? My socks at a yard sale. Hi there. Hi there in
the US socks.
You know, when he says that? Hi, there. You know what that sounds
like? Sounds like was that talking head song? Hi there. No,
no, it was no, it was a Peter Gabriel was Peter Gabriel was
it's onward. I'm sorry, I get distracted.
Alright, these products may not appear to have much in common,
but they're united by three proud words Made in America.
Okay, now it's starting to make sense.
They're manufactured by American workers and American factories,
and shipped to customers here and around the world. The
companies that make these products are part of a hopeful
trend. They're bringing jobs back from overseas.
Didn't we do a thing about a year ago about how the gold toll
folks which are located which I think he's what he was holding
here, but located I guess in Tennessee, so they decided to
move the factory to Mexico, thanks to NAFTA.
Well, it's very interesting. You say that, because he's about to
use a term which, you know, I had to look up obviously, to
understand what it meant.
Oh, hello. From outsourcing sourcing? Well, this is in
sourcing
in sourcing? Yeah, I've heard that before. Okay, now, but
they're in sourcing is actually a technical term. And if you
look it up in the book of knowledge in sourcing may be
done by onshoring, which is insourcing delegate certain work
to a different company, which may come from a different
country. I think that, you know, while you think, oh, it's like
for American workers, I think he's talking about bringing in
more slaves. Bringing, you know, because we know that labour is
going to be really cheap here in America. So insourcing is not
necessarily what he says it is. But he's using it in a cute way.
So we'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
And then this make or break moment for the middle class, and
those working to get into the middle class. That's exactly the
kind of commitment to country that we need. This week, I
invited executives from businesses that are in sourcing
jobs to a form here at the White House. Did you get your invite
John?
A forum? Yes, a
forum. Wow, another
meeting at the White House. To solve the problems. This guy's
have more bullcrap meetings with people that have nothing to do
with anything than any bad administration I've ever seen in
my entire life, it
gets so much better than
that. These are CEOs who take pride in hiring people here in
America.
By the way, I couldn't find the notes on this meeting anywhere
who the hell were invited, these people take pride, I'd love to
know,
not just because it's increasingly the right thing to
do for their bottom line. But also because it's the right
thing to do for their workers, and for our communities, and for
our country. I told those CEOs what I'll tell any business
leader, okay, ask yourself what you can do to bring more jobs
back to the country that made your success possible. And I'll
make sure that you've got a government that does everything
in its power to help you
succeed. Now pay attention, because here comes a tricky one.
That's why in the
next few weeks, I'll put forward new tax proposals that reward
companies that choose to do the right thing by bringing jobs
home and investing in America and will eliminate tax breaks
for companies that move jobs overseas. It's also why on
Friday, I called on Congress to help me make government work
better for you. Right now, we have a 21st century economy. But
we've still got a government organised for the 20th century.
I think he's saying we're driving the clutch car. Over the
years, the needs of Americans have changed, but our government
has not. In fact, it's gotten even more complex than that has
to change
complex. Did he say complex?
That sounds like flat back in I think he said
complex.
Over the years, the needs of Americans have changed, but our
government has not. In fact, it's gotten even more complex
and
he does much did come on. I'm complex, and by that
it has to change. That's why I asked Congress to reinstate the
authority the past presidents have had to streamline and
reform the executive branch
Ah, now I'm like wait a minute, he asked for some authority. And
it's, um store authority you but I'm still looking at the boots
and the in the candle and the compass and the rubber knife, so
I'm distracted by that. But it's very important what he says
next.
This is the same sort of authority that every business
owner has to make sure that his or her company keeps pace with
the time so
he's apparently the owner of the American business. He's the
owner of us. He's the he owns our ass.
It's the same authority that presidents had for over 50 Ruler
Now listen, listen, listen, until Ronald Reagan. And let me
be clear, I will all
So now whenever someone says, Let me be clear, what do we do,
John?
We know to perk up because he's gonna lie to us, right?
And let me be clear, I will only use this authority for reforms
that result in more efficiency, better service and a leaner
government.
Okay, so I'm like, wait a minute. He's asking for some
authority, which is consolidation authority.
Actually, it's something called the consolidation authority Act,
which you cannot find anywhere. But it has been used before. And
he just lied, because we know he says, Let me be clear, I'm only
going to use this tremendous power you give to me to to clean
some stuff up. So I went a look in, of course, and I did find
one guy on C span, who I think is just hired to propagate the
last cific
authority does the President seek from Congress with regard
to consolidating these branches of government?
Well, the White House agencies, the White House has proposed
that Congress would enact what's called what be called the
consolidation authority Act, which would fast track
procedures for the executive branch to combine agencies and
this may have been mentioned earlier in the programme. But
it's centred around the business and trade functions at the
Commerce Department, the US Trade Representatives office,
the Export Import Bank, the Overseas Private Investment
Corporation, the Small Business Association, Small Business
Administration farming, and immediately with presidential
authority, he is elevating the Small Business Administrator to
cabinet level status, which as an executive reported is a
largely symbolic act. Because when a new agency is created,
where Congress is required to enact a law, to give a cabinet
status, but the various presidents have had cabinet
officials invited to attend the Cabinet meeting as full equals,
and that will happen when in case of Karen Mills, who's the
Small Business Administrator, but that may change once this
Congress enacts this law that they're proposing. And the first
act that White House would like, would be the consolidation.
So there's some very important things here. This is essentially
they call it the consolidation authority. But essentially,
Congress will be handing the president Fast Track authority
over anything he does, as far as I understand it, because I'm you
know, I'm just I'm a VM a washed up Vijay hands the president
Fast Track authority, which limits Congress ability to
hinder the President's agenda, because they only can do an up
or down vote. And the President is promising that he will only
use this to consolidate some stuff and shuffle some stuff,
which apparently will shed 1000 governmental jobs. But this type
of authority goes back to the New Deal. And it lapsed in 1984,
under Reagan, but I believe that this is very, very dangerous.
Because you even heard this guy say the first thing he will do,
I think he misspoke here is to consolidate this agency. But
what will he do after that, with this fast track authority? I
think the consolidation authority is just a made up name
because you can't actually find the consolidation authority act
or, or anything named that. But the whole idea of Congress
telling or giving up power to the president to fast track his
agenda, I think it's extremely dangerous.
Well, he's been doing this sort of thing for a couple of years
now. And I don't see why this would make it any more
dangerous. And he's already
because Congress will not have the authority.
But they don't have that they have the they Congress has a
rubber stamped it for this guy. But okay,
well, maybe it's just a hedge, maybe it's just important
doesn't
could be it could be just another hammer another tool in
the toolbox. The end
of the day, John, it doesn't matter. Because we're going to
get a new website,
these changes will make it easier for small business owners
to get the loans and support they need to sell their products
around the world. For example, instead of forcing small
business owners to navigate the six departments and agencies in
the federal government that focus on business and trade,
we'll have one department. One place where entrepreneurs can go
from the day they come up with an idea and need a pass to the
city start building a warehouse to the day they're ready to ship
their products overseas. And in the meantime, we're creating a
new website. Yes, USA that will serve as a one stop shop.
Automation for businesses small and large, that want to start
selling their stuff around the world.
So anyway, before you go on, did you have you noticing the real
meme that underlies all this even though he's putting the is
six agencies into one because they're just who knows what they
do? Well, what um, it's all it's all about small businesses
sending their products overseas shipping around the world. Most
small businesses do not are not export companies.
No, they don't unless you're doing boots candle or socks or
padlocks.
They're dry cleaners, their grocery stores, their delivery
services, their flower shops, motorcycle guy or guy blankets,
there's a million there's just they're not not every small
business word is and he has been doing this since day one. He is
under the impression and promotes the idea that small
businesses in the United States are all a bunch of export
companies are all caterpillar. Yeah,
but like our show we're exporting it cause an idiot.
Thank you. But this whole thing the government it's like you go
to the government, you go to the website, they give you money.
They help you. They do anything. No, of course the website's not
even functional it's coming soon it says
How long does it take up? Throw up a website go to wordpress.com
look at business usa.gov Doc and in COBOL go to business usa.gov
It's hilarious. Yeah, come coming soon. Here even has a
coming soon. Banner. It's a platform that consolidates
information services from across the government to a single
integrated network for American business owners and
entrepreneurs. It's an internet and a suitcase if I ever saw one
you'll be able to find a wide range of relevant and timely
federal government data services and programmes whenever wherever
on your terms where you kick
as Eric does she'll has an interesting interpretation
What's that? He says this is the data consolidate this is that
way because this is the easiest way to set up a federal VAT
sales tax via the streamline sales tax project. Oh
very good. Very good show. Very good.
And it makes nothing but sense yeah, you know let's just do
this is a new way of taxing the public to get more miles away
one of our listeners says that the Coast Guard does guard oil
rigs and overseas ports why we don't use contractors is another
question but apparently the Coast Guard is overseas in the
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I'm watching the our national treasure trade show called The
Electric Company. I've complained about this show
before electric was not a kid's show, didn't they? As a kid show
it's
a kitchen is an educational educational kids show. And we're
more proof that the educational TV does not work. It shouldn't
even be on the air. There's nothing educational about what
we're about to listen to. And in fact, it may be
counterproductive and make people idiots but this is what
you hear. When you listen to the national treasures educational
show.
Oh man, I'm so sorry.
Oh, I can't sleep at the wheel. What was what you hear? Let me
start oh, here's what you hear when you listen to the national
national treasure. Yeah, educational show. Go for the
dolphin and wash my elephant.
Yeah, you have succeeded, so we won't be needing Yeah. I just
love what I do.
is by far the laziest letter in the alphabet, in fact, is so
lazy. It doesn't even show up in the word alphabet. Alphabet with
no F. Here's what I think happened. F called the pH pH.
pH. I'm tired. Could you make the sound for me and some words?
Will pH said okay, yeah, yeah, sure. I love to help out. So
next thing you know pH started popping up in words like
alphabet and trophy. While F was all fishing and eaten fudge,
lazy.
That's just awesome. Do we pay for that?
It's unbelievable. The show is like this.
You know it sounds a lot like this other show. I've been
watching
with Holly algea geocaching Shane.
Hey, we got the translation of that by the
way. Yeah, we got it. You know and he did say that. Yeah, but
it's a real slam when you when you when you know the
translation.
Yeah, it means you don't get it. You're an idiot. Yeah,
he doesn't quite understand the situation. In other words,
you're a dick. Hey, yeah. Hey, Romney how to run
Thank you very much insulted and then you end you have to
remember that is the you know, Asian form of it, you know, and
they you know, they don't come out and say you're a douchebag
now they have to kind of beat around the bush. So this is so
it's this is very nice because of the same face thing.
I wonder if if there are a lot of Chinese Americans going well,
that's it. I'm not voting for that guy. He doesn't understand
the situation.
No, no, it's possible. I like the fact that the Chinese are
going well. I think that will result in most of the email. I
got some of a different than yours. The only interesting
observation was the guy's got a pretty good accent. Yeah,
well, it's nice that so many of our listeners were able to
translate it immediately. They were like, Oh, here you go. This
is a we know what that means. My wife speaks Mandarin. We've got
a lot of Chinese checking in like that.
I don't want to belabour the point but I am gonna ask for a
request. Okay, come on one more Manning. Play one more time.
warping the Constitution. He is holy and told me he's a
feminist. Weapon and weapon.
I got a report regarding that. Dennis Hof owns the Bunny Ranch.
And if the presidential election were held today, there is no
question Who would win here. The prostitutes at this legal
brothel have a pimping for Paul campaign because Paul supports
their right to make their living this way.
Yes, you have a right to do things that are very
controversial.
Probably working girls want to keep the Federal government out
of their business. So they're asking customers to donate to
Paul's campaign on their way out the door. In two days, they
raised $587. And they're pimping for more.
I love it. Now, of course, I edit this report because they
made it sound like this is on CNN, it was the health editor.
Yeah, because of course, they made it sound like you know, oh,
this is so crazy. Now the hookers want him. But of course,
to me, it's like great. I love that I wish we had I wish we had
tonnes of prostitutes donate into our cause. Yeah, man, what
I mean, I don't know. You know, we have any prostitutes that
listen to us.
Well, you never it wouldn't be funny if we got a donation.
So I'm a work we have.
We have code $50 of code. It's $69 donation, we'll know what
you mean. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more.
Yeah, we have had a couple of those. But they're always coming
in from guys.
Well, hey, there's rent boys out there. I'm pretty sure I think
we might have a couple rent boys listening to us.
So I wouldn't be surprised.
I'd be I'd be proud, actually. And I'm sure I would be proud.
Hey, very cool. I'm
sorry. I got a couple of just off the wall clips. Just to show
you what you know. santoor. I don't want to really do much
with Santorum. But listen to the Santorum
he's wearing Do you know that? I saw him this morning. He's now
wearing a vest with his name on it.
Ya know, his vest. He's selling those vests, he sold almost 1000
of these vests. And that you can buy him on the website. He's got
his name on a
fan forum vest. Yeah. Dorm sweater
vest,
people will be going to curioso shops 50 years from now. What's
this? Screw the ring? Look at that vest. That's beautiful. Oh,
Tom, was it a club? Was it a private club, where they put the
insane people in the insane Santorum. So he's got the gun in
his kickabout natural gas. Now I know for a fact that you can get
your car converted to natural gas. And a lot of people do it
because you get all kinds of extra privileges on like carpool
lane stuff, and you lose costume. I've seen it be done as
low as $1,000. And you end up having to do the conversion. And
most of the conversions can go back and forth between gasoline
and natural gas. And this you can put a tank in your tussock.
It's an oxygen tank size thing in your trunk. That's good. But
listen to this idiot. And so
we need to look at natural gas is not really an alternative to
automotive fuels. But it is an alternative to 18 wheelers and
garbage trucks and buses and other fleet vehicles as a way of
burning clean energy, affordable energy energy that we produce in
this country. We are 100% self sufficient on natural gas in
this country. And we it's a fuel that we should be using more of
it is cheap. And it can it can be used in transportation,
again, not automobiles, because about $15,000 a car and you have
to have tanks all over you're all over the place. But it can
be used on larger vehicles and we need to be moving to that
direction. Why? Because natural gas vehicles burned. Why and the
maintenance on those vehicles is a lot less than when you're born
in oil.
Okay, so he's an uneducated douche. I mean, he sounds like
you got a tank on your roof and a tank and the passage
describing it waving his arms around it was indicating a tank
on your roof.
So are we talking about liquid petroleum gas LPG here? Are we
talking about propane?
No LPG, LPG, right? Yeah,
no, in fact, in get my nation lowlands when I was growing up
there in the 70s and 80s, it was very normal. Lots of people had
LPG tanks. Yeah, and it smells great by the way when they're
Does it smell sweet and stuff? And people always laugh like,
you know, it's like, I got my LPG tank because at the time was
like 30% of the cost of, of a litre of petrol of petrol is
still cheaper. I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. But no, you
gotta have huge tanks everywhere. It's not good. It's
only good for 18 wheelers and garbage trucks.
Idiots it makes no sense. Why would it be good for an 18
Wheeler
because they got plenty of room you know the drivers let's tank
he doesn't need a cat to sleep in he can sleep on the tanks
side is one of these guys just kind of make this stuff up as
they go along. Go Yeah, that totally. So while you were
reading the thing I was listening to C span if you want
it if people out there want to know what kind of sacrifices we
eventually make. I ended up listening to the and I don't
know if you've seen these but they have every so often on C
span they have supreme court hearings. Yeah, I've seen them
from time to time well, you don't really see anything no you
because they all they have is the sound and then the picture
of the judge. It's very boring. It's very boring.
You sit there go like, man, I've been sitting here for like five
minutes and the picture didn't move. I really got to like do
something about my life.
So there's a couple I didn't real Lies where would you go to
disguise? Here's an example. They're having a hearing on the
FCC and it's arbitrary rules about what constitutes obscenity
on television and the broadcaster's are up in arms
about this because it's arbitrary it is. And they went
on with, wow, this show is on and you can just say, Spielberg,
whatever he does is gold. You can do that. But you can't.
Yeah, somebody's bought. And
I was like, what was it? What was that instance? Was a band of
brothers or was it?
No? Oh, no, it was right. That was but there was a bunch of
his Schindler's List. If it's in the context of, of war and
horrible atrocities, then it's okay to use the F word.
Yeah. That in our show unneutered person. Yeah. So they
had they're going on and this is I got to clip.
Did you say a new did person? New did I think you said new
did?
I think it's a good word. I'm sticking with it. Okay, guys,
Ben Newton. muted.
I'm coming back to New did it all.
So there's the I don't know if these things are boring or
whatever. But first of all, there's some discussion going
on. And and Ginsburg, who is this old lady on the Supreme
Court, she comes in and she says some comedy. Well, maybe they
should keep people from coming on and interviewing me. And she
says, You know, when you bring on these artists, they can cuss
on the air. And she's just had some stupid thing to say. And
then the guy follows up, he pays no attention keeps talking. And
then Scalia comes in with a snide remark saying, or maybe
they shouldn't have those sorts of people on the TV. And then
the guy, the the attorney for ABC, I believe he I don't know
what he doesn't say he doesn't even acknowledge that Scalia
says anything. And he keeps talking as though this is
insanity. But I was listening to this, I'm going What is wrong
with these people?
This is not this is not something that covers a vast
array of speech on broadcast. It's a tiny fraction. And so and
I do think when if you're talking about the Pacific as the
outer bound, the consequences are the shock jocks are fine.
The Superbowl halftime episode with Janet Jackson is fine. You
can have as many of these seven second episodes of NYPD PD blue
as you want. That's all fine. In fact, anything that's anything
that isn't at
the other side, you better be careful about following certain
people, certain artists to be interviewed because even though
it's unscripted, there's always a risk. They're gonna say
something they shouldn't say a
couple of answers there. And one is the the lane bleeping
technology, Justice Ginsburg, and the other one is that there
is a Santa requirement under the Commission's enforcement
authority here. And so in that situation, it seems highly
unlikely that you'd have the requisite Sansar that could lead
to a forfeiture. And maybe the third is you shouldn't interview
these people. Let me spend if I could a minute on the NYPD Blue
broadcast that.
Wow. Yeah, that's that's our Supreme Court right there. Yeah.
Don't interview people who might say something naughty, like,
like, F word OR? Well, by the way, vaginas. Okay.
Go ahead. So I've seen you Well, these guys so this is like
idiotic. But now it got to the point where do these Supreme
Court justices, and in this case, one of Clinton's
appointees, Ginsburg's the other one, this guy brought Breyer
Breyer, be Rey er, this guy who's got the most pretentious
way of talking this guy. I'm gonna tell you, it's kind of set
this up this the Central Time Zone clip. This guy doesn't seem
to realise. And he kind of stumbles around because he
realised he doesn't realise he doesn't know that the central
time, you know, on television, they have West Coast time,
Central Time. And central time is essentially just the same as
the New York feed. So it was broadcast an hour earlier. Yeah,
I get to main central 10. East and west, right. Yeah, I
get to Letterman at 1030. Here.
Everybody in the world knows this, don't they?
I guess I should play the clip. Well,
no, before he could answer the question. doesn't vote don't
most people know, this could be a fact. And it's not some sort
of a
plot. I mean, it's almost so automatic that, you know, this
guy,
this guy Briar, who is just parently never
watched his, you know, Judge, is he a judge?
He's the Supreme Court judge. And he says that, well, they
showed it at 10 on the east coast, but then they decided
decided to sneak it in at nine. No, no, no, no. I'm telling you
on for 10 years that had features.
I mean, I don't know about this instance. It's called nude
awakening. It's about the sexual awakening of a child. You ran at
your client after 10 o'clock on both coasts, and they choose to
run it at nine o'clock for some unknown reason. In the Midwest,
whatever. My point is what the FCC probably told you to do was
run it one hour later in the Midwest, just as you did on the
coasts, just
wow, that's awesome.
What are they read it for some unknown reason what
an idiot. Was that?
Unbelievable. I was a jaw dropped from Listen, this is our
Supreme Court you're making decisions about all the you
know, whether law should be this or that and they and this guy
thinks they're running something an hour early for some unknown
reason on the Central Time Zone. I mean, are they that out of
touch? This is I mean, this is this this I find it distressing.
Meanwhile, do you know that you know we were talking earlier
about I can do you know that they actually own internet time
now? No, yeah. This have the the timezone database, which keeps
track of time zones and it's Unix, Linux. Of course, Apple's
Mac OS uses this database database to coordinate times
across geographic regions, Oracle, MySQL. Anything written
in Java, Perl, PHP, that is now being run by ICANN as well. They
just took that over just earlier this month. Didn't hear about
that. They own time on the internet, the timezone
masterlist they own time.
Yeah, that's a good thing. No, and I wouldn't mind owning some
time. Yeah, they just said, Hey,
we'll we'll run that. Don't you worry about it. You know what
you can do if you messed up that database? The Times? A lot of
fun. Yeah. Uh huh. Wow, that's, that's pretty sad, John.
So I'm watching. I didn't realise Dissidia girl, you
always think about that. This was I'm gonna play a clip from a
movie that was written in 2000. So this is before Janet
Napolitano ever showed up. I think we may have talked about
this a couple years ago. It's the start this is a new version
of what Starship Troopers number three? Did you know they made
three of these turkeys here we already played this clip. Not
mil. This is from number three, though. This is a new one is a
new commercial. Oh,
this is the origins clip.
Yeah, I know we have talked about it before that apparently,
Janet Napolitano got to see something say something from a
science fiction story written in 1960. But this is the one that
came out in 2008 as Obama was being elected, and that they
really emphasise this see something thing, a man who calls
himself a citizen? Who is no better than
Batman is Elmo, Gunner, self proclaimed pacifist, terrorist.
And today he and other members of the gunner peace coalition
are wanted in connection with the council bombing. And hey,
citizen, you can help know your neighbours. Take another look
citizen, you could be living next door to a big fat reward.
If you see something, say something you'd like to know
more.
Yeah, that was a big revelation that we did last year, John, so
I just wanted to Riri revelate it. But the I think Do you want
to know more as a mean that our government needs to drop into?
Well, I'd like to, I like to Hey, citizen, that's my
favourite. I
like hey, citizen. Hey, citizen.
Whenever we maybe we shouldn't start doing something new
besides in the morning, just say hey, citizen,
a citizen. I don't like to be that derivative. Hey, citizen.
I'm going to does how I'm going to talk to you from now on. Hey,
citizen. How you doing citizen? Hey, citizen. Hey, I'm gonna pay
citizen. I'm going to play a clip for you a news clip from
upstate New York near Buffalo Leroy. And this is it's
something crazy is going on up there. And I want you to tell me
what you think is happening, particularly when you hear the I
think it's the Surgeon General of New York State. I guess they
have their own Surgeon General. He's at the beginning of this
clip. There's something very weird happening with teenage
girls up there. And I want you to tell me what you think is
happening. state health
officials addressed hundreds of concerned parents and community
members here at Leroy Junior Senior High School. But for some
of them, the information that officials had to give just
wasn't enough. We do
have some answers. We will share as much as we can. Without
sharing the diagnosis. We can't do that. It's not right. It's a
federal issue. But it's not right here. There's
answers leading to more questions and the ROI is state
health officials trying to calm the fears of hundreds of parents
wondering why 12 high school students all girls have
developed strange, uncontrollable Next in recent
months,
I can assure you that these individual the children have all
been seen by professionals who have come up with an answer. And
they're being treated appropriately and they're
actually doing pretty well.
state health officials in the ROI superintendent Kim Cox met
with a full auditorium. After a three and a half month
investigation, announcing knave rolled down environmental
factors like carbon monoxide, as well as infections or
communicable disease. Illegal drugs were also rolled out
we got the best minds focusing on this and we're comfortable
with with what we've come up with
what Johnsville they've come up with officials can't say
generally speaking, they cited genetics, head trauma and drugs
for OCD and ADHD as potential causes. Anti histamines are also
known to cause tics, stress and anxiety make them worse. But
those answers weren't enough for Jim Dupont. He says his daughter
has missed nearly every day of school this past month.
And so now she has to be tutored and I worry about her future.
She's only 17 She can't even drive now
DuPont says his daughter is seeing a neurologist but he
hasn't heard a diagnosis. You feel
frustrated and helpless. Because you don't you don't know what
you can do. And you're just not getting any answers.
All right. What do you think is going on up there John that they
can't talk about because it's a federal issue and we know we're
confident we know what's going on but it's it's okay. Shut up
slave. Hey, citizen, you don't need to know what's happening.
What could that be John that's happening to teenage girls who
are developing tics and twitches like they have Tourette
Syndrome.
Well if it were if I was to guess, not knowing but the first
thing that comes to mind when I hear this dot you this this
description is insecticides.
Teenage girls
and they're all teenage girls and you know HPV to do with HPV
Gardasil, of course. So they did. Do you think they altered
Gardasil? Of
course they did. Teenage girls all getting this right, right.
Teenage that would work at the boys would have the same young
teenage girls, it's got why can't we you hear the guy in the
beginning? Yeah, we know what's going on. But we can't tell you
it's a federal issue. You know, shut up slave. You don't even
know. It's Gardasil.
Ah, yeah.
This was one of our producers. I sent this to me. I thought that
was a great catch. I'm like, Wow, it's so obvious what's
happening here. Only girls please. Like wow,
that's a good catch by the producer. Great catch.
Administrators and Leroy schoolers have updated parents
who by the mysterious disorders affected 12 causing exhibit
symptoms similar to Tourette's. And then they go on with a long
discussion of Tourette's here what we don't need to do
Democrat and Chronicle a good net newspaper if this I do have
a scandal if true,
the huge scandal but the thing is not telling the parents this
we know what it is we you can't No, shut up. Well, we're good.
We know what's going on. But we can't tell you it's a federal
issue.
Well, if all these girls got a Gardasil shot, which by the way
would be the case they all have who's asked them yeah, that's
we're talking about major major major what they don't want to
talk about it because there's a lawsuit here waiting to happen
that would be not only killed the Gardasil business because of
the situation, but it would sue the company out of out of
existence. Exactly. So let's Yeah, let's shut it up.
Let's see if someone can let's see, oh, it takes two
girls to have them come out and say, Hey, I took the shot. And I
bet you know, and then yeah,
I'm looking online to see if Yeah, well, he Oh, here Well,
yeah. Okay, so I'm not the only one figuring this one out. For
sure. What is this? Gorgeous Xena who did this video. Let's
see what this is. Possible break? What is up YouTube? Matt
Larsen. 10 coming at you with a bit. Oh, we don't need that.
Look, I have Tourette Syndrome. Very mild case of it. I didn't
get no HPV shot. Okay. This is an unknown condition. No one
knows what causes this. You think I haven't looked into it?
It's unknown. Now, I don't think these girls are going around
going as well as all. No, I don't think they have that kind
of Tourette's.
No, no. It would add more humour to the story. Yeah, that
would be kind of cool. If you're in class, but now this is this
is completely sad. And I think you're right. I think this huge,
huge scandal brewing here and hopefully someone can all would
take is just say, Hey, did your daughter have a Gardasil shot?
Yeah. One reporter asking three girls Oh, boy, you
think that the reporters who actually live on the money from
the Gardasil vaccine commercials would actually do that and
report on it? You think so we think that'll really happen,
John.
I guess not a citizen.
We need to focus our attention for a moment because of course,
it was very quiet. I think the silence before the storm was
very quiet over there in Euro land. But things have not
stopped. Some important news came out that we just need to
discuss briefly. Yeah, there's
no doubt that it will
was that when you hit this
massive debt, I guess the eight is representing the investors
who've lent money to Athens again met the Greek prime
minister on Friday. But there was no agreement and afterwards,
a source for the negotiators said they are now much less
optimistic. Now the meeting business plan next week.
Investors have said that they will accept getting back only
half of their original loans. But the talks have been
complicated by demands for further concessions. The Greek
government needs to slash its debt to more sustainable levels
and convinced the European Union and IMF to keep lending it
money. It wants another 130 billion euros on top of the 110
billion bailout it got in May 2010. Greece's total debt is 340
billion euros without a fresh injection of cash the country
will go bankrupt in March that's when it has to repay earlier
loans which are coming due a deal must be struck well before
the 20th of March, when 14 and a half billion euros worth of
government bonds will be redeemed because the paperwork
alone will take at least six weeks to process.
So this is of course in relation to standards and pours down
rating the debt of the following countries Cyprus, Italy Portugal
Spain by two notches that's literally what the s&p report
says two notches like the Eurovision Song Contest two
notches. They lowered the long term ratings in Austria, France,
Malta, the Slovak Republic and Slovenia by one notch and affirm
the long to affirm the long term ratings on Belgium, which had
already been downgraded Estonia, Finland, Germany, Ireland,
Luxembourg and the Netherlands. All ratings on the 16th
sovereigns have been removed from the credit watch where they
were placed with negative implications on December 5. So
this is a important this report from EURO NEWS I might add, was
I believe, broadcasts before the talks literally broke down the
hedge fund guys walked away from the table. They said, We're not
taking no 50% haircut, we're not doing that. They're all insured.
And of course, this will trigger a huge derivative issue. If
Greece were to default. Your thoughts on this citizen,
it's a mess. Okay, beginning of the end, they just keep them did
these guys have done a wonderful job the you folks, even though
you know you have people criticising them of for stalling
the inevitable. I'm just wondering how long they can go.
I was suspecting from following this fairly closely, that the
all hell would break loose this month, and it was set off the
worldwide economic collapse. But I'm thinking these guys are so
good at this, that I think they can go they can kick it down a
few. They're not getting much further than a couple more
months. But that March deadline is going to be one of the
showdown points. And I don't know, here's one of the guys
from
Russia more money folks print more money. If only they would
you know that would that would certainly prolong it. But
they're not the European Central Bank doesn't seem to want to do
that. Here's one of the Russia today, commentators
that struck a terrible blow for Sarkozy, his only real chance of
winning the election was to show himself as a safe pair of hands
as the devil you know, in a crisis. Now, it's clear that
France has both the crisis and the devil that they know. So in
internal French politics, it's a very serious event, indeed. But
I repeat, it's not just a political matter. It is the
assessment by a rating agency of the ability of France and other
countries to repay its debt. And it's an assessment therefore,
that the debt situation in Europe has not been tackled, and
that in fact, it is getting worse. We've had a Eurozone
crisis now for two years. And it's been in particularly
intense for the last six months and a Standard and Poor's in
their press statement announcing the credit cut say that they
think that the European leaders have not responded to the crisis
adequately, and that's why they're downgrading the
countries. So it's an assessment of the situation on the ground,
which is that European countries are struggling to contain their
debt.
So the way I just say it, man, I don't have to go to another
computer and look at what your Skype
I'm just setting up the end this show clips. I have an
end of show clip too, though.
What do you have?
I have Ron Paul kicking everyone on NBC is at MSNBC is ass. He
has the most eloquent interview with Morning Joe. With what's
her name? Brzezinski. Melaka Milka Yeah. Her her who was like
just run that.
How long is it
that's about eight minutes. Oh, geez. But it's but he's so good.
Because it's only one
we just wanted to run that and and I'll say my two clips and
I'll actually get the whole thing together.
Well, if you have Euro things I am interested because No, it's
not Euro. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you had Euro things Oh,
no, no, I
got some other stuff that's completely
just on the Euro thing then just to let you know how this so
first of all very important because what this guy was saying
was that this is the screws are cosy. And we know that the
standard is in poor it's a commercial business. So they're
taking their orders probably from the Federal Reserve or or
Treasury someone. So it is to screw Sarkozy, I'm pretty sure
that that's, you know, some France is like hit goodbye. I
still think John, they're going to pull it off. I don't think
the euro will collapse. I think they're just going to integrate
the the so it's been going on since 1956. they so desperately
want to have everyone paying their taxes to Brussels that I
think they're really going to try and pull it off. They're
going to try and integrate so your taxes go directly to the
Central European state. I think there's still a real possibility
of that happening. In fact, the standards and poor report
actually says that's what they need to do. They need the fiscal
union, the political and fiscal union
that will lead to civil war, so yeah, sure,
go that way. It will.
Meanwhile, in there as Baron von Pels, mockers backyard, just to
show you how quickly now let's let's just say, John, let's just
say in a crazy world, where this actually could happen, and I
wanted to buy your house now your house is probably about
$125,000 I'm just guessing. What I'm just guessing. Yeah. Okay.
200,000 Whatever, is not a castle.
We're in California. Okay. 245.
And I said, I want to buy this house from you. And I came over
with a suitcase full of dollar bills. Would that be acceptable
to you? Yeah. Well, you say congratulations, Adam. Here's
the deed. Enjoy.
Yeah. It'd be more than acceptable.
Well, that's not the way it works with the euro. Certainly
not. Wait a minute. Yeah, listen to this. I didn't even know
this. Apparently, there was already a legal limit in
Belgium, which means of course, it's all over Gitmo nation Euro
land, that payments in cash are now to be reduced from 15,000 to
5000. Euro. So you can't pay for anything in cash if it's over
5000 euros and whites. Yeah. And of course the new majors are
intended to help in the battle against money laundering. So we
know it's not Yeah, it's good for you. They even want to lower
it to 3000
but if I wanted to pay by cheque
No, I that may be okay but I think it's the cash that is a
problem
or they don't want yeah, that's because they want to go to a
cashless society so you can monitor every cent you have and
so you everything has to be on a card it's like the food stamp
thing in the United States now it's all on a credit card debit
card you know so it's so it's a debit card so everything's on a
card so you add them you're going to get paid it gets to go
on this car now you have like 10 20,000 on there or whatever
it's worth the card and then somebody in the government says
you know I think we should investigate this guy pull his
money Yeah, let's take a block his account block as a county
turn off his chip Hey Sam no cash you can't get out of town
there's no money allowed because you can't you know this is a
cashless society and now you're screwed Hey citizen
That's right it's coming really close but get donation lowlands
is even better. I couldn't believe this. I mean, this they
might be not a civil war but an uprising before you know it.
Maybe I don't know that. Unlikely. Yeah, they've got the
voice over there in all the in all the Euro land countries.
Everyone's like glued to the television. Oh, the voice is on
tonight. Oh, that's great. Yeah, he's such a good singer. The in
the borough of Amsterdam west the council is going to
introduce parking fees based on the length of the car.
Just like that idiotic crap and Finland.
So if you have a bigger car you might be might wind up paying
twice as much to park than a smaller car.
This is crazy. It either fits in the spot or it doesn't awesome.
It's awesome. This is like what they I think they should did.
You might as well just go all the way with this sort of
thinking. I'll tell you where this leads. And I hadn't
actually personally stunned that it hasn't happened already. A
citizen when you go on an aeroplane they weigh you charged
by the pound. That's right.
Hey, citizen, you look a little pudgy around there. Why? You
stepped on the scale for a second citizen. Don't worry,
it's just normal procedure. Hey, citizen. That'll be an extra 25
bucks. Oh, you
got luggage? Oh, hey, citizen.
Here. You're right. That's all coming. And we'll be sitting
here going down on the Titanic.
So I'll come in that way because there's more ways to gouge the
public.
Hey, what are we doing in Afghanistan? Again, John, what
what was the point again? We're gonna why are we there to get
bin Laden? Yeah, now we've got him What should we be doing?
They're
rebuilding the country. Now.
Come on, there's gotta be another reason. Let me think,
to pee on people.
Is there anything that we could do that mind to make some money?
Oh, yeah, we could grow poppies.
The United Nations says there's been a dramatic increase in the
price and production of Afghan opium. The latest report by the
UN Office on Drugs and Crime will make worrying reading. It
says opium farmers in Afghanistan probably earned more
than $1.4 billion in 2011. That's equivalent to 9% of
Afghanistan's GDP. See you and ODC says there's also been a big
increase in opium production. Prices began rising in 2010,
after plant diseases wiped out much of the poppy crop. As a
result, higher prices were predicted in 2011. But the UN
says these have exceeded expectations. Many farmers say
they want to plant more opium poppies, because of the high
prices. UN officials say Opium is now a significant part of the
economy, which funds the insurgency and fuels corruption.
That's a bonanza 1.4 billion but the production because I read
the report, of course, so you don't have to the production of
opium so not just the poppies. The production is 2.4 billion.
This is a bonanza baby.
And this is just a demo if the farmers are making 1.4 billion
and of course they're the low end at the bottom. Yeah. There
is a possibility that that I mean, there was not the
possibility. But if you do the math, and the numbers must be
enormous. I mean, I can't imagine what the intelligence
agency cut must be. It must be Oh, my God. 2030 40 billion who
knows?
100 billion at least because that's the amount they're
allowed to take in gifts. Remember? They're allowed to
take gifts over their donations. Number we read that and then
National Defence organisation Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, like you take gifts. That's 100 billion.
So there's a little subtext of the story you kind of overlook
which is that the poppy seeds had or the poppies had this
disease to raise the price, you know that Monsanto sells poppy
seeds
You're kidding me? Check it out. Really? Can I just buy him from
them off the rack? I'm gonna say Monsanto poppy seeds
Well, I'm gonna says says I mean I'm seeing it some evidence that
they've used it the Monsanto poppy seeds. And they're trying
I guess they're developing a poppy seed that can reproduce so
you can just have a which would be the safest way to grow them
of course,
organic poppy seeds no less. Wow, heirloom seeds, heirloom
poppy seeds as right we harvested these these right
there from the fields in Afghanistan. And then we
protected them. So they killed themselves after that. So you
know, we're gonna raise the price of the overall the heroin
market the you know, if you want some black man, it's gonna be
hard because we got to Cornyn because these policies will die
in Afghanistan gotta go by our scenes again. You see it?
Somebody's
gonna buy seeds from somewhere, especially if these other seeds
are having a disease problem. Good
systems. A very, very good system. We're really smart.
You're all a holes, then we're on to you. Yeah, that's my
bottom line. All right, let me set up this final end of show
clip. And I got to ease into it with a Pew Internet A Pew, not
internet. Do they have an internet,
internet study of American, whatever. But they also just do
they also
just have research. Yeah, they also have just the Pew Research
and the LA Times that a nice hit job on Ron Paul. And of course,
you know, we are trained as media assassins to go in and
look at the underlying research. And then here it starts off with
the headline is voters struggle to answer basic questions about
the GOP field.
And a new poll by the Pew Research Centre for the people
and the press posed for questions. Which GOP candidate
served as Speaker of the House. But then here's their
conclusion. 43% of voters answered at least three of the
questions correctly compared with just 16% Have nonvoters
voters we're least able to name the candidate who opposes us
involvement in Afghanistan. So the way this read is like, Oh my
God, no one knows that Ron Paul's against the war, right?
That's what it reads. So I go and look at the research. And
they ask for questions. And this is almost like one of those joke
things where he asked three easy questions and you ask a tough
one, and then people are all flustered and they don't know
what to say. I mean, that's how you do these things. Question
number one, which GOP candidate served as Speaker of the House
69% New. Mitt Romney was governor of 53% knew that after
Iowa and New Hampshire, the next primary is in 45% knew that. And
then which GOP candidate opposes us involvement of in Afghanistan
44% It's not like that was completely off the radar. It was
44% of the people knew that that's actually really good.
Yeah, it sounds reasonable. It's not like nobody knew
well, I mean, considering the only 45% New after Iowa New
Hampshire the next primary is South Carolina, which has been
on the news incessantly
thing is more of an indictment of the Los Angeles Times not
getting the word of fat, you know, the facts to the public. I
think that they're that's
what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying that they're trying to
make Ron Paul look bad again by Oh, no one knows. No one knows
what he's all about. The least they didn't say 44%. They said
the least. 44% I'm impressed actually.
Yeah. This is this news. Some of these newspapers have no I mean,
the Los Angeles Times is a real loser. Yeah. Who runs that? Who
owns that outfit? Well, now it's a guy that said he's the
supermarket King from Chicago. He's out of
Chicago. Oh, by the way, in the show notes, a fantastic article
about Valerie Jarrett. Now written by I will admit the
Weekly Standard. But finally someone's looking into who she
is and what she does. And it starts off with she seems to
function as a sort of third party to the Obama marriage
guarding the President and his wife from bad news and outside
influence while they are meeting with Lady Gaga
Yeah, that's a funny line. I'm beginning to think there may be
some sort of a Manasa tois going on. Oh no, not
now. All of a sudden that became sexy she's got a big rack
anyway,
maybe he's the beard just say as a possibility
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right here on no agenda and of show clip is Ron Paul, ponying
MSNBC. All right.
Let me ask you, I mean, I understand where you're coming
from here. I think sort of, you know, but the house is already
on fire. And I think no matter no matter what, the house is on
fire, our house is on fire. So let's take one industry
specifically, let's take the automotive industry in this
country. Are you saying spend no money on the automobile industry
in this country that American automobile manufacturing let it
disappear?
But I think you're correct, the house is on fire and you think
you're putting water on it? And I think you're putting kerosene
on it. And that's the big argument. No, you've take the
car industry? Yes, I think we should put more money into the
car industry, but it should come from private sources. It
shouldn't come from government, because government will divvy
out the money politically. But there are private sources of
money, if there's anything of value, that it'll be bought up.
But you don't you can't value anything. When the government
buys up assets that aren't sellable. You buy up worthless
assets. So there's some worthless assets in these car
companies. So if you want good money to go into car companies,
you have to allow real capital to flow into it. So yes, you do
want that you just don't want the government to do so what
systemic changes. If you look at tax policy, which alters flow of
capital, as you as you know, well, if you look at whether
it's a spending or any other aspect of the use of money,
interest rates, monetary supply, etc. What change would you put
in would you exploit this opportunity to change the system
of capitalism in America for the better how would you change it,
get rid of the income tax, get rid of corporate taxes, get and
really lower taxes, but you have to lower spend at a consumption
tax to make up for that, would you would you put a consumption
tax in how would you make up for the lost revenue on income? I
agree with you on income and business tax. I just don't know
where you get the revenue elsewhere. And I would argue,
I'm not, I'm not interested in getting the revenues I want to
cut spending. But the problem is, is nobody wants to cut the
whip American empire. Even Obama's administration wants to
increase spending overseas and increase military spending. As
long as you want to run the world empire at a trillion
dollars a year, believe me, you cannot solve this problem. And
that is where the crux of the matter is. So yes, you have to
cut spending, along with cutting taxes. So to say, well, let's
have a consumption tax, that's just transferring the, you know,
the penalty to new victims, but you want to get taxes down, you
want to get rid of regulation, you don't want to do what we did
after the Enron failure pass, Sarbanes Oxley, you know, by the
conservative Republicans, that's the fault is in the thinking
that we need so much government,
Congressmen are concerned, are you really saying that given the
meltdown on Wall Street and some of the craziness that we saw at
Citigroup and Merrill and other places that there should be less
regulation? Not more, in some cases?
Yeah, we should have more on the Federal Reserve so that we know
that we're doing they're exempt from regulation as his treasury,
we give Treasury $350 billion, doesn't really know where they
spend, what type of regulation you are,
but what about on what on Wall Street? Do you not want to see
on some of these derivative products? Do you not want to see
there be some kind of regulation in terms of what the banks can
do?
Sure, anybody who commits fraud goes to jail, just as they did
in Enron. We didn't need Sarbanes Oxley to prosecute
everybody in Enron, through through the laws of fraud, if
they commit fraud, they go to prison, just like made off. You
know, we had all those regulations sec and everything
else. And he got by the SEC didn't work,
because it's not just fraud. In some cases, in some cases,
people had very little equity put down and we're leveraging
things up tremendously. should there not be regulation about
how much equity you effectively have to put in the deal or
capital you have to have on your balance sheet,
pure and if you understand leveraging up equity and debt,
you have to look at fractional reserve banking, that's where
you pyramid debt. So they're doing exactly what the Federal
Reserve does is they create money out of thin air and a
pyramid debt. That's where the bubble comes from. That's why
you have to look at monetary policy, but you're looking at
the symptoms rather than the cause.
Congressman, Hang Hang with me for a couple of seconds here. I
am extremely limited. And 90% of this conversation that you've
been having with Dylan and Carlos has gone way above my
head. But your basic theory, let's get government out of
nearly everything. Let's swing back to what I do. Nearly every
morning, I drive to work on roads filled with potholes,
beneath bridges that are crumbling. What's the answer
here? Do I go out and try and find six carpenters and some
bricklayers? And some Masons to fix those bridges and bridges,
roads and bridges? government's got to do it.
What's the deal here? What
is your point of view about stuff like that basic
reconstruction of this country?
Okay, I know I can't have my perfect society quickly. But
what I would do is quit bombing bridges in Iraq, and then paying
to rebuild them, and then wasting the money in the
rebuilding over there. I would take that money, save it on the
deficit, cut the deficit and spend some on our
infrastructure. That's what I would do. And we could do that.
But as long as you do it through debt financing, it's impossible.
Ideally, roads and bridges should have been taken care of
by our states. It wasn't designed in the Constitution,
that the federal government would take care of every bridge
in every road. But that isn't the worst type of spending. And
I think in the interim, we certainly could, we could cut
the spending overseas, but we're going to bring ourselves to our
knees, we're going to have $1 crisis, we're doing exactly what
Obama, Osama bin Laden wanted to do what he did to the Soviets.
He's bringing a vibe to financial chaos to this country.
And we got to realise this excessive spending, that is a
problem. It's not that we need more government spending that to
me is full, but I want to ask you the same question. I've been
asking myself, everybody on this side, I asked Tucker, I asked
Pat, I'll ask you in reality, and forget the perfect your
perfect society, mine or anybody else's. In reality, we're going
to lose millions of jobs over the next year or two. In
reality, our banks have been mismanaged horribly, as a result
of both the bankers and the politicians, in my opinion, and
we're now dealing with that. What would you do with it? In
other words, saying what you don't think should happen that
has a value to a point. But in reality today, what do you think
the American politicians and bankers ought be doing? I
wouldn't pretend that pouring kerosene on started with sorry
to interrupt you, but I want you to start it with I would. Okay,
what I would do is allow the liquidation of debt to occur.
You want the people to spend more money and buying up assets,
you want these assets, priced in the marketplace that we know
what their values are. That's why that first package of the
market will do that. As you know I did. There's no value there.
That's a good information then there's no value. Why should you
dump that on the American taxpayers? That's a strong
message that if it's worthless, you don't dump it on. But that's
bad. That's why our slump is getting worse. What how do you
get this country healthily to where to your perfect society
where there's limited taxes, and free markets and innovation
reign supreme, and me and Willie are on the beach or you know,
getting drinks served to us from robots. But that's not where we
are today. How do you get that? How do you deal with the reality
of the problems of this country? Well, the reality is you have to
liquidate debt and get rid of the malinvestment. If you don't
do that, you can't do it. But what you're doing now is you're
working on the destruction of the dollar. There's a pretence
that you're going to prove things about you're really going
to destroy the dollar and a financial today is going to be
$1 crisis.
Counselling quick question, Would you be willing to accept
unemployment in the double digits 14 to 15% for several
years, if in your mind, that's what it took to fix our fiscal
house?
Well, it's better than 20. But I wouldn't be responsible and the
people who created the bubble would be responsible. Go, go
talk to Greenspan and ask him if he is accepting the
responsibility for the 14%. So you can't blame the people who
are trying to correct the problems on the unemployment you
gotta blame the people who created the bubble, the people
who were delighted with all the billions of dollars they were
making in the in the last last decade. My frustration is I
agree with with why I agree with a lot of what he says is the
frustrating part of this is to try to figure out the
constructive way forward, identifying the problems we can
bear the
conversation keeps going, everybody throughout the show,
it keeps going back. And
Obama's credit he's trying to move forward and it's going to
be an interesting
warping what constitution. He is holy and told me he's a
criminal.
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Adios, Mofo.