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You know, it's really hard to
believe that it's already the

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14th of June 2008. And we've
been doing this for about 35

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times so far. It is no agenda
coming to you from the curry

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manner the United Kingdom. I'm
Adam curry.

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And here in the United States of
America, Northern California.

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I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Yeah, Johnny Boy, how you doing?

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Foggy today?

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Really? Oh, it's it's been nice
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Well, it's been nice and hot
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getting you're looking at like,
looks like our classic

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California summer weather where
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foggy in the morning, and then
it might break up and then it

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gets nice and warm in the
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Oh, this is kind of weird, huh?
Something? Something really

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weird is going on here. John,
hold on. Oh, wow, my. That's

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weird. All of a sudden one.
Yeah. Well, all of a sudden my

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microphone started to the fader
just went down automatically.

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Okay. It seems to be fixed. No
worries.

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We're good. Is this sounds the
same? Yeah.

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Was this one of those Mark
Twain? What is it to? The

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coldest winter was summer in San
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famous for?

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Yeah. July I think or July? I
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actually, July is when it really
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just July, people come out to
kill. It's actually fun. It's

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like a local joke. I mean,
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from all over the world to San
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you would think would be like
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Imagine the high days? Yeah.
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and freezing. And then the fog
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just chilly. And even the locals
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because every year you kind of
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think about them, when it rolls
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even the local sometimes they're
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around without, you know, the
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wearing in July. And I warn
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out. I mean, it's not always
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that when I was wanting people
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Bay area in the middle of summer
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be in for a shock. That said,
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Valley. It's nice to warm up
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And you know, that's over here
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course has a reputation for
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and cold and foggy and windy. In
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here now this is the third 123
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I think. And it's just you know,
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rain is seasonal, but it's
really quite nice. And the women

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in London man when it gets above
like 71 degrees, who boy, they

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start dressing like it's 1000
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hot weather, so they have to
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it's different. It's not that
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it's a cultural thing where
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outside world. We have great
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how warmly how we're dressed for
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Maybe the think they just like
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Man, we got a shitty connection
today. You were great when you

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started off. And now you're
coming through like,

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well, you know what happened in
connection? That connection kind

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of fell apart when you had that
microphone anomaly? Really?

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Yeah.

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Well, it's coming in. And I
mean, you're you're legible. No

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problem. I read you four instead
of five.

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Yeah, you're very ever since
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have been flaky?

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John, I don't think that was
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think that's been that way for
the past 25 years, perhaps.

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We use that joke every time. Do
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really I need some new material.
I gotta call John Stewart having

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write some new shit for me.

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I'm telling you, it's that you
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times on the show?

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Well, when you get to be 43,
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make a jokes over and over
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So what's on the agenda that are
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agenda and what's going on? I
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guess voted no to the EU. And
that's just showed up on our

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source code for the past couple
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talked about this last week. We
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We talked about Yeah, we did. We
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save the world by you know,
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So he so I'll recap them because
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it's really it's very
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watching the formation of a huge
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known as Europe. In each of the
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known as states. So it's in a
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States but in many ways not. But
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background of this in 2005, the
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sits in Brussels actually
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Strasbourg I think every other
month or something, they they

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change location, some kind of
dumb political thing. They put

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together a constitution and they
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it was filled with, it was a lot
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type language, very hard to
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for example, the Constitution of
the United States, which, you

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know, is pretty, you know,
anyone can kind of read that and

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understand, you know, it's open
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reasonably easily easy to
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to all the states in 2005, and
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every country held a referendum,
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know, yay, or nay, we're for
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countries in particular, who
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their governments at the time,
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voted it down by a rather large
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every member state has to ratify
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document of this scope in order
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that basically fell apart
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French voting down. So what
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railroading move. In the past
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with a new a new treaty called
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really nothing other than a
document with a whole bunch of

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references to the original
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you know, it's it kind of like
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document, you know, change this
word for that word, change the

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word constitution to Lisbon
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that is, if it's not a
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necessarily have to call a
referendum for it. So the big

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critic criticism of Brussels for
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this Lisbon Treaty has been
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to was supposed to start January
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member states just kind of like,
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governments really fast, no
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country, which was Ireland. And
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differed from the other states
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hold a referendum anyway. And I
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happened with the addition of
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first of all, people can't read
it. I've read it. It's it's very

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complicated. I certainly don't
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ministers of European Parliament
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have gotten some satisfactory
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no will where can I read what
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all I mean, it's just a, it's a,
it's a huge mess. They didn't

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communicate it to the public. A
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arms, saying, you know, Hey,
what the hell happened here, you

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guys ratified something, we
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on. And I think that was had a
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a margin of I think it was 55 to
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They basically turned it down.
And this is, yeah, this is a big

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deal, because now it's all
fallen apart. And the main

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things, as far as I can tell,
the main drivers that Brussels

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was really going for is one of
possible common taxation across

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all of Europe. And to know
actually three things. Common

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taxation, common immigration
policy, and probably the most

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important one, a common army, a
European army, which, if

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necessary, would also go outside
of Europe to act in whatever

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theatre they might be called to.
And understandably, people

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aren't just going to say yes to
that. No one got the choice

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except for Ireland. And there
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thing is basically kaput.

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sullair Hilarious.

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Well, it's, it's, it's
frightening, because, you know,

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now we're in now we have to see
what happens, you know, both

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Sarkozy, President of France and
Angela Merkel, who is Prime

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Minister of Germany have said
well, it's not really can't put

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you know, it certainly won't be
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But they've got to go back
because it's all all these legal

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things that's all these guys
live for in in Brussels is you

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know as to get this document set
up to to be able to execute on

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whatever their plans on which of
course the public has no frickin

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idea no clue is what it actually
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It looks like sounds like some
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entire European continent

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Thank you. Well, this of course
you know me mister conspiracy

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theory. That's exactly what it
is. Of course, it's a fascist

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type fascist takeover.

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The common army would have me
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Why particularly French?

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Well, I mean, because it was a
common army is gonna be run by

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the Germans. Let's face is
reality?

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Good point? Well, a lot of is
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that is another part of the
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I don't have all the exact
numbers in front of me. But the

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way, the way it's set up, if
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European Parliament, which, of
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to go to Europe, instead of your
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to have a majority, but not just
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think you have to have at least
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you. But you also have to have
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basically, if France and
Germany, if they decide

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anything, they want that
together, they have enough

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people to pass a vote. And then
all they all they have to do

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essentially, is just call up
these little member states,

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which are completely reliant on
them anyway, and just say, Okay,

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we need, we need 30 more you
guys to say yes. Which basically

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means that if 15 smaller states
got together and said, hey, you

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know, which is a majority in
number of states, they still

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wouldn't be able to pass
anything, because they don't

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have enough people in these
little mini states. So it's, to

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me it's kind of a clusterfuck.

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It sounds terrible. I mean, I
can't sell anything can get

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done. So I think it's going to
give the only way the only

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solution is to pass broad
reaching laws that have sketchy

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powers attached to them. So you
end up with a fascist state is

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the only way it's gonna work.

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That's yeah, well, if you go
back and look at history, I

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think you could see a lot of
parallels in this.

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Yeah, well, nothing quite that
this ambitious. This is the

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probably the most interesting. I
mean, they've always been trying

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to unite Europe. I mean, various
you ever see, you go back to I

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guess you could go back to
Charlemagne at Summit, you know,

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I mean, but meanwhile, you have
the Napoleonic Wars to try, you

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know, in some ways you're trying
to unite Europe. And then you

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have the the fascism, which was
a movement that tried to unite

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Europe, of course, always, never
got very far, because you'd

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think we'd had to be done by
force. And I think this is the

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I'm not absolutely sure some
European historian may want to

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chime in on this. But I don't
know the any kind of bloodless

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coup attempt that has been that
has been made on this sort of a

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scale, which is essentially what
we're looking at here, which is

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the takeover of all of Europe,
by a single entity, you know,

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out of Belgium of all places.
Even though it may be the puppet

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masters may be elsewhere, and I
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Well, I mean, John, obviously,
where did this all start? This

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started after the Second World
War. It started with the United

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Nations that that of course, the
United Nations, famously started

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with a was like an $8 million
donation from the Rockefellers I

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believe. You know, that that
combined with NATO and a couple

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other organisations like this,
essentially once they once they

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got the euro in the common
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took hold in 2000 and I think it
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either 2001 or 2002. That also
meant they could combine all the

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central banks so we have you
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which maintains you know, what
central banks do except now not

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just know now it's all over 500
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this or almost all of them are
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still kind of interesting how
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Kingdom get away with not not
converting to the euro. And I

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think what it's one other
country isn't it to Sweden I

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think I think Sweden has their
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kronor or whatever right um, so
even though they have a little

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bit even though the new the new
British money and then a new

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Swedish made they have to you
know, I went there a few years

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ago when they made this
transition, and I had some pound

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notes but the pound notes that
are only acceptable Now

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generally speaking, have to have
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the note. Yeah,

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well yeah, everyone everyone
changed their money one way or

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the other. And if you have

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shows the pound nope has had his
little EU things. So if you have

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the old towns because I always
have a drawer full of you know,

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alien money because I travel so
I grabbed that put it in the

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thing and so I have some some
minor news by a cab without

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having to change money when I
show up someplace. So I show up

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and I dropped down some pound
notes that logistic exactly the

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same. No, no, no, you can't use
these. Your money's

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no good here, Mr. Devore. AK,
but like it's really no good

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here.

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It's like no good. So what am I
supposed to do with this? And I

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said, Well, you can you can go
to certain banks and they'll

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swap it out. And so I went to
the bank, swapped it out and I

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got exactly the same money. back
except for this little beadings

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there's a little bitty bug on
your little bitty thing that

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says EU.

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So I am, I did learn a couple
things. I spoke to a Dutch

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Minister of European Parliament.
And he said, You know what, we

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have no plan B. We don't know
what he's going to be in

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Strasburg starting Monday.
They're all getting together and

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trying to figure out what
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And no Plan B they expected
everybody just a roll over.

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Yep. Well, everyone did roll
over. I mean, if you look at

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this some great video online, I
put one on curry.com You have to

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go back a week or two. I like a
week and a half ago. It's a it's

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one of the British members of
European Parliament stands up

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and has this whole rant and he
literally says, you know, you

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guys are horrible. And
basically, without saying that,

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he said, there's almost like a
fascist state. You know, you're

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all railroading this thing
through without referendum in

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each individual country, you're
doing it because you're afraid

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that people will actually vote
it down again. You know, you're

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doing all this backroom
politics. Yeah, that's they had

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no plan B that's every single
member of the Parliament and the

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Commission all said that they
expected it to go through and

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only Ireland they thought Yeah,
fuck it Ireland, you know, no

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problem. And but there were
there were ministers of foreign

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affairs from almost every single
country in Europe who were

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campaigning in Ireland either
for or against I think a lot of

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them were against or certainly
if they were opposition parties.

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There was a it was a really it
was a really really intense it

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was it's a big deal. It is still
a big deal. You know, I haven't

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picked up my my weekend copy the
Financial Times. But I think

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this is this is going to be
messed up for a while. Of

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course, it happens at exactly
the same moment. We're in the

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middle of the largest media
event Europe can even imagine

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which of course, you know, is
what European football

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championships. Oh

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yeah, I can't imagine anything
bigger than that.

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There is nothing bigger in
Europe than the than the

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European football championships.
There really isn't. And, you

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know, no coincidence there. I'm
sure that all this is going down

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at the same time.

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Well, I don't know. If you don't
think it's like, Oh, you think

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there's some? You think there's
a connection? I don't, I'm not

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getting that one.

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So of course, there's a
connection. The media is

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dominated by sport. No. Look, no
one wants anyone to understand

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this document. Otherwise, they
would have made it

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understandable. So you got to be
suspicious. At least people

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aren't stupid anymore. This is
what these guys forget. They

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make all this shit available on
their website. You know what

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people actually take the time
they download it and they look

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at it and say what the hell is
this shit? I don't get it. Yeah,

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so they're old. They're they're
thinking and acting old fashion.

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You know, people are just not
stupid anymore.

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They're not sterile fashion.
Those people

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and a lot of them are younger
than I am, believe it or not,

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but they're still acting really
old fashioned. i Oh, we can

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ramrod this through it. Anyway,
here's a here's kind of a fun

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story on the side. So yesterday,
I was set to fly back from

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Rotterdam I paid a quick visit.
And I was gonna fly and and

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usually I go to Hilversum some
other small field but for a

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number of reasons. I decided to
go to the, to the rather bigger

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airport, Rotterdam. They have a
jet Centre, which of course what

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it sounds like it's meant for
jets is for private jets. So

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here I come in my little you
know Cessna 182, right. I park

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it in the jet parking. I like it
because, you know, they roll out

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a red carpet, they carry my
bags, you know, they take care

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of the aeroplane says fine. So
I'm going to leave. And you

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know, the Hague, of course,
where the where the government

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in the Netherlands sits is right
right next to Rotterdam. And so

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I roll up. A friend of mine
dropped me off and it's like his

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Volkswagen bus. Like a VW bus.
And I already saw like a couple

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of official looking cars outside
and so I walk in and like Oh, I

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see there's the there's the
royal jet is on the tarmac. John

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literally nose to nose with my
plane, right, which of course

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was just flying by itself. And
this is a you know, it's like

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where's your camera? Where's

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your camera?

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I'm a some such a dick. Well,
let me tell you, I didn't even

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think about that. Because here's
what happened. So I walk in, I

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see like, it's like 50 suits,
right? And there's a couple of

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waiting rooms in this place. And
they're all filled up. And all

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these guys have orange ties on
I'm like, Oh, of course. They're

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gonna go watch the Netherlands
play France in Switzerland

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tonight. And I knew that the
Minister of Foreign Affairs

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France Timmermans. Because I
spoke to him on the on the Dutch

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radio earlier in the week. I
knew that he was going right. So

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I'm like, oh, that's kind of
cool. He must be here and I'd

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never met the guy. So So I asked
around. I like it. So one of

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these one of the astute guys,
I'm like, Hey, is is Mr.

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Timmermans here and you know,
the Minister of Foreign Affairs

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and you guys would be like, Why?
Why do you want to know? Well,

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you know, I met I'm on the phone
the other day and I just wanted

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to shake his hand. Do you have
an appointment with him? I said,

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No, dude, I'm here. I'm gonna go
fly my own frickin plane. I'm

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leaving. I just want to say hi,
Is he around? So while this

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dialogue is going on this
shithead is like staring me

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down. This woman walks by and
says, Oh, Mr. Curry, yes. Hi,

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I'm Bonnie, you know, your
producer spoke to me. And oh,

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please come on through, I want
you to meet Mr. Timmerman. So I

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walk in and into the waiting
room. And as

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you should have given the
raspberries to that creep. Well,

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no,

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wait, the raspberries gets even
better, because he followed

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behind me and what he saw made
him total shitless. So I walk

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in, I walk straight to the guy,
and it's like, there's like 10

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guys in this waiting room. I
say, hey, phones, because we're

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on a first name basis phones,
how they how you doing? And

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yeah, so it's like, oh, yeah,
it's good to meet you. And I

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know I'd love to talk again is
Oh, limit, let me introduce you

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to this guy over here. And I
turned the rights the Prime

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Minister Balkan end, and I'm
like, Oh, hey, nice to meet you.

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And the Prime Minister goes, Oh,
yes. And he's kind of a dorky

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Harry Potter looking guy. You
know, if you see him, you just

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laugh. And he says, Oh, yes.
Well, I know you. Of course,

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you're famous from radio and
television. And I said, you

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know, you're famous from radio
and television, too. He says,

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Oh, we were kind of like
colleagues, and I said, Well,

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don't I just wish we were
colleagues. So it was it was

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like this really weird
encounter. And we stood there

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and talked for like 10 minutes
about football. Meanwhile, the

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referendum was taking place at
that very moment. The results

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came out no more than like an
hour after that, because I was

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listening in the plane to the
BBC World Service. And yeah,

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these guys couldn't give a shit.
They were they were they were

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getting added to Switzerland to
go watch the game. By the way,

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Holland killed France four to
one What an awesome game that

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was. Holland has a real chance
this year in the channel.

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You know, this is funny. I Edie
Campbell predicted that you say

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something about the stupid
football game on the show here

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today and man told me to manage
and I guess I don't know whether

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this is true or not. But I guess
the coach of the of the Dutch

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team looks like a serial killer.

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The Tote the coach of the Dutch
team, who was Marco from Boston

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was one of the best players
Holland ever knew. He does not

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look like a serial killer at
all. That would be the French

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coach who looks like a serial
killer. Okay, well, maybe they

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haven't missed he has the wacky
like curly freaked out hair. Oh,

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no, it was the French guy if
anyone's referring to serial

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killers. Well, of course I got
it. I'm really proud. And by the

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way, all of Britain's behind the
Netherlands because half the

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team plays for UK football
teams. Anyone? Everybody plays

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for

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UK football teams or Brazil.
Yeah.

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So anyway, so it's, it's a mess,
man. It really is.

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Well, I congratulate the Irish.

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Me too. I think that I think
it's fantastic. And

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you know, what was going on? You
know, this is it. This is all

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headed in one direction, the way
I see it, no matter because

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they're gonna keep trying to
ramrod this EU down everybody's

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throat. You know, I mean, I
think a trade agreement between

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the countries works out, but
they have a single government.

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So you have, you know, the
Germans telling the French how

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to make cheese really seems to
be a problem.

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I don't think it's exactly that.
I think the biggest problem is,

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none of the people who are
making the laws in Brussels have

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been elected. You know, I'm
saying, Yeah, that's bad. That's

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like a real problem. And people
don't want that. And, you know,

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it's worrisome. Yeah. You don't
think about these things often,

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you know, but then you realise,
you know, shit, wait a minute,

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you know, this really is going
to impact my life one way or the

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other. For example, July 1, all
of Europe, all member states are

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adding three I think it's 3% or
three cents, but like three,

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let's just say 3% additional tax
to diesel to combat co2

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emissions. And at this moment in
time, the last thing anyone

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needs is any rise in the in the
cost of diesel. And so none of

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the individual states can really
do anything about it. Everyone

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just kind of has to implement
it. You know, that's a perfect

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example of Fuck no, you know, we
need we need to we need to be

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able to change and not every
state has the same prices by the

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way. Cuz there's, you know,
there's different different

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pricing and different taxing
structures. It's it's very

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confusing, and all people see is
money flying out their pocket.

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That's all they know.

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Yeah, well, that's a bad thing.
But anyway, this thing all looks

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to me looking at it from a long
term kind of perspective,

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especially if you even have a
clue about the history of

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Europe. That and then if you're
thinking about the way the

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United States is history went,
it looks to me as though at some

436
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:47,310
point if this thing actually
started coming together, one of

437
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:51,300
the states would start to resist
I mean, it didn't mean the smart

438
00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:53,910
money already resisted
completely Norway and

439
00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:56,490
Switzerland never joined as
operation they far as are

440
00:24:56,490 --> 00:24:59,550
concerned they don't that's
something they don't need. And

441
00:24:59,550 --> 00:25:02,880
but these other The guys who
kind of agreed to it, at some

442
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,370
point, if they start to resist,
there's going to be what amounts

443
00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:08,070
to a civil war, especially if
you have a national, you know,

444
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:13,530
an army. That is an EU army,
which will be a German army

445
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:18,210
seems to me, and you get some
little country like Portugal or

446
00:25:18,210 --> 00:25:20,970
Spain deciding that they don't
like what's going on, they're

447
00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:23,040
going to just march in there and
take them over, it's just going

448
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,850
to be a mess.

449
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,810
Well, I think what's kind of
what's kind of weird about it is

450
00:25:27,810 --> 00:25:33,720
that the citizens of of Europe
get along fine. You know, we

451
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,560
trade with each other, we visit
each other's countries, we do

452
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,640
business together. We have cheap
airlines, so we can visit each

453
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,980
other. We're on the internet,
we're talking to each other.

454
00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:47,640
We're emailing we're cyber
sexing. Yet somewhere in

455
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,160
Brussels all these people are
like doing all kinds of other

456
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560
shit. And as you say, like now
all sudden, the Army's gonna

457
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,670
march bit in march into a
country like, yeah, it's, it

458
00:25:56,670 --> 00:25:58,170
feels so wrong.

459
00:25:59,730 --> 00:26:03,180
Well, it is wrong. And I'm
against it. But you know, I'm

460
00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:05,850
just over here. carping? Yeah,
it's

461
00:26:05,850 --> 00:26:09,210
like the states is is all fine
and dandy, politically speaking.

462
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:16,830
Yeah, well, we have our own
armies marching around. Exactly.

463
00:26:16,830 --> 00:26:22,680
Yeah, no, it's not as if. But me
who needs another situ? I mean,

464
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,390
the thing about I don't know,
it's just I've never been. I've

465
00:26:27,390 --> 00:26:30,270
never subscribed to the EU ever
actually working out from the

466
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:33,900
from the first time I've heard
about it to today. I'm a sceptic

467
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:36,990
about it. And every time one of
these situations falls apart

468
00:26:36,990 --> 00:26:40,770
like this with this Irish deal,
I'm just going there you go. You

469
00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:43,980
know, I mean, it's just like,
it's not working. There's too

470
00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:47,010
many languages over there. And
this would have to I don't know,

471
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,250
I don't want to get into because
I'm not that knowledgeable. What

472
00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:51,210
else do we have to talk about?

473
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:57,510
Yes, shit. I don't know. It's no
agenda, man. I'm not planning

474
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:57,870
stuff. Well,

475
00:26:57,870 --> 00:27:00,030
you know, there's somebody's
wanting me to talk about that.

476
00:27:00,030 --> 00:27:03,270
We have a commentator over here
has become quite popular. In

477
00:27:03,270 --> 00:27:05,760
fact, there was an NPR special
about him the other day, I was

478
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,610
just in northern Michigan giving
a speech to a newspaper group,

479
00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:13,950
telling them you know, that well
over, went over. But I'm going

480
00:27:13,950 --> 00:27:16,500
to turn this speech into a
monograph because it's pretty

481
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:21,510
much outlines, I think, what's
wrong with the assumptions made

482
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:24,180
by newspapers when they think
they can begin to be able to go

483
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:29,880
online. And it's, anyway, so but
I'm floating around this part of

484
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,130
Michigan, which I've never been
to before, and it's absolutely

485
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,200
beautiful. And, you know,
there's just north western

486
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Michigan along the Long Lake
Michigan, up into the upper

487
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,560
peninsula, which is called the
Up Up Down and ever say a

488
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,510
penance for some reason. But
anyway, so I'm listening to this

489
00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:55,140
this special on NPR about this.
guy who does MSNBC.

490
00:27:55,650 --> 00:27:58,650
Olbermann, oh, Keith Olbermann.
Sure. Oh, okay. Yeah, we were

491
00:27:58,650 --> 00:28:00,060
gonna talk about this, right,
remember?

492
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,560
Yeah, Keith Olbermann. And
somebody says it was a British

493
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:07,260
listener to the show said, you
know, what is the deal with this

494
00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:13,320
guy? Because he seems to be, you
know, he's getting attention

495
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,370
overseas. I'm not sure what the
international implications are.

496
00:28:17,370 --> 00:28:19,620
But he wanted a little
background. Keith Olbermann

497
00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:26,400
started off years and years ago,
as a commentator on ESPN. And

498
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,280
he's the one along with a couple
other guys. I don't know if he

499
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,150
invented it, but but ESPN, in
its early days, was still trying

500
00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:37,050
to figure out where it was
headed as a broadcasting entity.

501
00:28:37,230 --> 00:28:42,720
And he is one of the people who
became the wisecrack oriented,

502
00:28:44,970 --> 00:28:47,040
sports guy, you know, where
you'd be given sports

503
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,500
highlights, and then you'd have
snide comments to make

504
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:53,220
constantly about whatever you
were witnessing.

505
00:28:54,030 --> 00:28:56,250
I didn't know that. His
background. That's interesting.

506
00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:58,050
I didn't know that he came from
ESPN.

507
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Yeah, he came. He has his roots
as a TV guy in terms of his

508
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,150
popularity. I'm sure he did
other TV someplace locally, or

509
00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:10,770
whatever, because he had to, but
was at ESPN. And he got so good

510
00:29:10,770 --> 00:29:15,930
and so popular at ESPN, that he
the way the story goes into this

511
00:29:15,930 --> 00:29:20,370
a lot of this is folklore, of
course. But he got caught. But

512
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,880
this is a fact that he was
extremely popular. And he wanted

513
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:30,510
more money. And Disney basically
just fired him. And so that

514
00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:33,960
ended got a bunch of people mad.
In fact, my stepson Eric is

515
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,670
still mad at Disney for firing
Keith Olbermann, like 15 years

516
00:29:38,670 --> 00:29:41,880
ago, because he was a real fan
of his. Anyway, so Olbermann,

517
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,370
then kicked around for a while
and he never really found

518
00:29:44,370 --> 00:29:47,910
himself and then he showed up at
MSNBC doing this kind of

519
00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:52,110
political show instead of
sports. He gave up on sports and

520
00:29:52,110 --> 00:29:55,410
he and he but he's this style is
exactly the same. It was like

521
00:29:55,410 --> 00:30:00,510
just snide remarks and you know,
that in his own distinctive

522
00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:03,090
Wait, because I do started snide
remarks, but I don't do him in

523
00:30:03,090 --> 00:30:07,200
his style. He has a unique
style. And you know, and he had

524
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,120
a show, and this show has been
on for a number of years, and he

525
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,380
had got zero traction
whatsoever. Then he decided to

526
00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:19,620
start focusing on Bush bashing.
And so he became a number one

527
00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:22,710
bush basher, and this is what,
in all of a sudden, during the

528
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:29,040
election, this last election,
primary elections, his show on

529
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,050
MSNBC or him doing commentation,
or commentating on MSNBC became

530
00:30:34,050 --> 00:30:36,720
the number one thing and they
they actually took over the

531
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,740
whole scene from Fox he beat Fox
he beat CNN, they did all they

532
00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:44,700
just, and it was all because
Olbermann was Bush bashing

533
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,460
during the whole primary seizure
season, and people were loving

534
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:50,730
it.

535
00:30:50,970 --> 00:30:56,070
Honestly, I've watched a couple
of his videos, cuz I don't, I

536
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:59,460
don't get to see it live on
MSNBC. But there's a lot of

537
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:02,730
YouTube videos, and probably
once every two weeks someone

538
00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:05,820
will send me a link to a Keith
Olbermann, state. And it usually

539
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:10,080
starts out with Mr. Bush, you're
a liar. You know, you have

540
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,650
consistently lied to this
country. You are, you know, he's

541
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,800
almost he's not just this short
of calling Bush, a war criminal,

542
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,070
which he might have even said,
somewhere along the line. And I

543
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:24,360
must admit that just about every
single rant he's done, I have

544
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,380
enjoyed thoroughly.

545
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,910
Yeah, of course. I mean, it was
just fun to watch. But you know,

546
00:31:29,910 --> 00:31:35,760
the thing is, it's very, it's
very partisan and pretty focused

547
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,660
on bush, and the Republicans to
a lesser extent. I mean, he did

548
00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:46,920
a John McCain thing recently
that one of my bloggers put up a

549
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,860
shipment of art gallery slash
blog. And, you know, I looked at

550
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:52,620
him and I, you know, he's
essentially doing what Jon

551
00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:57,870
Stewart does. Only with a little
more a little more mean spirited

552
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:01,620
version of Jon Stewart, where
you take some guy who says,

553
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,650
yeah, no, I think that we should
close this bridge. And then you

554
00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:08,610
find 45 examples of him saying
that we should open the bridge.

555
00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:11,640
Right, right. Right, you know,
clips, the clips from the

556
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,450
archives.

557
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:16,050
This is so what this listener
sent in, I remember now, he

558
00:32:16,050 --> 00:32:18,420
said, this is a thing that is
now sort of another one of those

559
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:21,930
links that I get sent 1000 times
please don't stop sending him. I

560
00:32:21,930 --> 00:32:27,570
appreciate it. And it was John
McCain on the Today Show with

561
00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:30,900
Matt Lauer. And and I think it
was actually taken out of

562
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:35,580
context now that now look at the
video. But the essence was

563
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:40,260
pulling the troops out of Iraq.
John McCain's quote was, that's

564
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:45,750
not important. What's important
is no casualties. And and so

565
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:50,010
that's what this entire rant.
Olbermann rant was built around

566
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,270
that I that I.

567
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,710
Yeah, yeah. No, because he used
the term that's not important.

568
00:32:56,910 --> 00:32:59,970
And the thing that McCain is
doing is he is parsing a little

569
00:32:59,970 --> 00:33:03,330
too much for my tastes, but but
if you start really listening to

570
00:33:03,330 --> 00:33:08,700
him, he's almost saying that I'm
still have this opinion, I think

571
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:12,060
McCain is the only one with the
standing, who could actually

572
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:16,290
just take office. And then the
next day, say, We're pulling all

573
00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:18,930
the troops out, I looked us
over, I don't like what I'm

574
00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:21,720
seeing why they they've already
won, you know, we've already won

575
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,300
over there, we're removing the
troops, or we're keeping a small

576
00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:26,610
army in the green zone or
something like that. I mean, he

577
00:33:26,610 --> 00:33:27,450
could do that.

578
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,900
The grandson, which by the way,
is big enough for 50 bases, or

579
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,690
some shit like that the green
zones the size of Texas,

580
00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:37,770
huge. And it's the only safe
part of the country, but you

581
00:33:37,770 --> 00:33:41,550
know, so they could just turn
into his own country. Anyway, so

582
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,870
the green zones a joke, I have
friends actually, that are in

583
00:33:45,870 --> 00:33:51,150
the green zone as we speak. And
anyway, the so I mean, he could

584
00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:55,560
get away with that, and nobody
else could. So I'm not convinced

585
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,800
that you know, he's this
horrible person who wants to use

586
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,320
a war monger because if
anybody's not a war monger, it's

587
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,300
probably him having suffered
from being a prisoner of war for

588
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,840
such a long time. Anyway, and
this will all eventually shake

589
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,190
out. But But Olbermann has gone
after him now. And then this

590
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:16,800
last thing I thought was
actually weak. And I did think

591
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,190
it was taken out of context, and
I'm not absolutely sure he's

592
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:25,860
going to be able to maintain
this. This bashing with for much

593
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:29,730
longer for a couple of reasons,
as somebody pointed out, one,

594
00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:32,580
MSNBC is owned by General

595
00:34:32,609 --> 00:34:35,759
Electric. Yeah, that's it. I was
not going to last long as what

596
00:34:35,759 --> 00:34:36,269
you're saying.

597
00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:40,470
And Obama has already shown that
he doesn't mind burning bridges

598
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:42,960
because he already burned the
Disney bridge when he was at

599
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,830
ESPN, and in some way, and he
probably will go down in flames

600
00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:55,290
here too, if he doesn't, you
know, even John Stewart tries to

601
00:34:55,290 --> 00:34:58,890
balance his act a little bit.
It's not just me he's not

602
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,840
Olbermann is Obviously an Obama,
like many of the media here in

603
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,040
the country, a huge effect my
question, this group that I was

604
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,870
talking to I had about 150
people that were in the

605
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:12,690
newspaper industry, and I asked
them, How many people in the

606
00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:18,120
group would be for McCain? You
know, after prefacing it with

607
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,420
the, with the comments that, you
know, the media is very left

608
00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:27,000
wing, generally speaking. And
Democrats, and I, and I have

609
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,600
like 150 people, 100 people,
maybe three people raise their

610
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,360
hand, you know, which sucks you
about, right? One, a fourth

611
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,570
person came up to me afterwards,
which I thought was amusing and

612
00:35:36,570 --> 00:35:39,660
said, You know, I would raise my
hand too, but I just started

613
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:44,100
working here, I didn't think
it'd be a good idea shit. Oh,

614
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:45,930
great. Okay, well, that's good
to know.

615
00:35:46,469 --> 00:35:50,969
So let me just say, I watched
this clip. And just just about

616
00:35:50,969 --> 00:35:54,749
the context, bit for one moment
here, I think what John John

617
00:35:54,749 --> 00:35:57,779
McCain answered a question. And
when he said, it's not

618
00:35:57,779 --> 00:36:01,619
important, I think he was
referring to what he thinks is

619
00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:04,889
not important, not necessarily
about the troops being pulled

620
00:36:04,889 --> 00:36:08,879
out that it's, you know, there
was it just felt like it was

621
00:36:08,879 --> 00:36:11,309
taken out of context. And then
what really bothered me because

622
00:36:11,309 --> 00:36:17,519
I do like, Olbermann rants, it
completely came across as if,

623
00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:21,329
you know, he was saying shit,
I've only got until November if

624
00:36:21,329 --> 00:36:23,909
I really want to keep the keep
this gig going. I got to start

625
00:36:23,909 --> 00:36:26,519
picking on somebody really big
and indeed you're right

626
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:30,269
immediately it's like Obama
spokes people on the phone, you

627
00:36:30,269 --> 00:36:36,119
know, three or four of them you
know, then right back to you

628
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:39,959
know, all the so called gaffes
that McCain has man made, like,

629
00:36:40,379 --> 00:36:44,459
you know, we could be in Iraq
for 100 years now. And I don't

630
00:36:44,459 --> 00:36:47,729
know what McCain's thinking, you
know, whether he's four again,

631
00:36:47,729 --> 00:36:49,829
so I really don't know at this
point, because, you know,

632
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:52,319
there's so many conflicting
information out there presented

633
00:36:52,319 --> 00:36:58,019
by the media, but to me, it felt
really contrived. And, you know,

634
00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:00,959
making a huge thing out of
something. We already know

635
00:37:00,959 --> 00:37:04,019
McCain's a kook when it comes to
that he's just a kook.

636
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:08,760
Yeah, he is, is the obvious
Scrooge. And, you know, we have

637
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,760
to, but anyway, yeah, I think I
agree with that. I felt that the

638
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,820
thing was a stretch. And it's
almost as though you're trying

639
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:19,200
too hard to be mean about this,
you know, right. Because it

640
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,320
wasn't making the point. I mean,
it's not like he, you know, they

641
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,400
fight they had even my own
bloggers say, you know, it was

642
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,490
they keep using the word GAF I'm
trying to think what's the gaff

643
00:37:29,490 --> 00:37:33,000
here? I mean, where was a gaffe?
I mean, he's just saying what he

644
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,820
said what he says I gaffe is
where you say something really

645
00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:39,090
stupid. Like, you know, just a
potato spelled with an E. You

646
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:42,270
know, something Dan Quayle was
made gaffes all the time. And

647
00:37:42,270 --> 00:37:45,150
Bush makes gaffes all the time.
He says dumb things, but Well, I

648
00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:48,660
mean, what where's the gaffe?
Technically, I'm not saying one.

649
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:52,890
I'm just saying, you know, just
be contradictory. You know, if

650
00:37:52,890 --> 00:37:55,020
you know what Donald he said
three years ago, it's not what

651
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:57,180
he's saying today. I mean, but
who doesn't do that? Yeah,

652
00:37:57,180 --> 00:37:57,690
exactly.

653
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,570
Oh, yeah. Well, that's the whole
thing. You know, now the big

654
00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:04,560
journalistic thing is become to
catch somebody on their words,

655
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,310
which is a very internet thing,
by the way. Yeah. And boy, can

656
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:10,860
you interpret words differently,
let alone what comes out of

657
00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:13,500
someone's mouth? So it's like
the Hillary Clinton thing where

658
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,890
Hillary Clinton said, you know,
under sniper fire, we arrived at

659
00:38:16,890 --> 00:38:20,070
the at the airport, and then
someone pulls the tape and finds

660
00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:22,170
the tape where of course, it
turns out that wasn't true at

661
00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:25,230
all. I think that's what what
what journalists are looking for

662
00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:27,990
these days is, you know, how can
we catch someone on his own

663
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:30,270
words, you know, how can we nail
them down to something they

664
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:34,200
said, aeons ago, which you're
right people change their mind,

665
00:38:34,410 --> 00:38:38,670
come up with the, with different
theories. Thank God, people's

666
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:41,580
opinions change. What really
bothers me, though, in all of

667
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:44,340
this, and it dawned on me that
there's something going on.

668
00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:49,500
There are conference calls,
press conference calls being

669
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,860
made that particularly during
this election, so I know the

670
00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:57,330
Obama camp has a conference call
every day with reporters. Then

671
00:38:57,330 --> 00:38:59,640
there's the of course the
Clintons. I don't know if they

672
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,880
still do it, but they certainly
were. McCain, every candidate

673
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,640
had their own conference call.
And, you know, these are not

674
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,120
like public conference calls.
It's basically, you know, the

675
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,930
candidates or any political
parties version of talking

676
00:39:12,930 --> 00:39:16,080
points, and they hand them out
to reporters on these conference

677
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,010
calls, which we're not privy to.
In fact, I would really love to

678
00:39:20,010 --> 00:39:23,640
be able to get like mp3 ease,
or, or a dialling number for all

679
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,010
I care. So I can listen into
what these people have to say,

680
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:29,970
but it feels like we're really
one step removed from a lot of

681
00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:32,760
important information that is
being interpreted by what I

682
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,980
consider to be pretty much lazy
journalists.

683
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,190
Yeah, there's no reason that
these things shouldn't go

684
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:41,910
directly to the public to have
the journalists become kind of a

685
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:44,850
filter when they do such a
crappy job of it, and they're

686
00:39:44,850 --> 00:39:48,000
all biassed. I mean, everybody's
like, I mean, you could just see

687
00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:51,630
I mean, everybody's essentially
all Barack Obama. I mean, they

688
00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:54,420
think Obama is the next John
Kennedy or something and so they

689
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:58,680
all hoping for this you know,
this change as it were, you

690
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,920
know, he's not gonna he's just
another Senate. Under it the

691
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,110
thing about Obama by the way in
terms of catching it with his

692
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:06,690
words he's never He never he's
interesting because he never

693
00:40:06,690 --> 00:40:08,010
says anything anything

694
00:40:08,010 --> 00:40:11,010
except change. Of course we all
want change that's that's a

695
00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:14,430
great message. How simple are we
as Americans dude? How fucking

696
00:40:14,430 --> 00:40:18,450
simple Are we that we go behind
the Pied Piper and just because

697
00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:22,860
he says change, you'll Hell
yeah, of course we want change.

698
00:40:23,340 --> 00:40:27,030
But I have not I've yet to hear
anything of substance. I totally

699
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:27,450
agree.

700
00:40:28,409 --> 00:40:31,469
So anyway, so you can't catch
him contradicting himself

701
00:40:31,469 --> 00:40:34,289
because he doesn't really say
anything. And in his also had, I

702
00:40:34,289 --> 00:40:38,459
saw I was listening to his
ponderous style. And I realised

703
00:40:38,489 --> 00:40:41,099
that you know, he sounds like if
you if you start listening to

704
00:40:41,099 --> 00:40:45,839
him, he sounds like he's doing
an imitation of Walter Cronkite.

705
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,109
Seriously, he's he's doing his
type of speaking because it's no

706
00:40:52,109 --> 00:40:55,679
I thought it was oration but I
realised now it's, it's it's all

707
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:59,699
fashion network news is the
style. He obviously when he was

708
00:40:59,699 --> 00:41:00,149
a kid, he was

709
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:04,290
like Paul Harvey, this is Paul
Harvey. Good day.

710
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,270
Did I forget a bit of that
without the without the this the

711
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:18,240
Paul Harvey had? Or still does,
he has a kind of an abrupt Miss

712
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:22,020
that's hard at the beginning.
Whereas Walter Cronkite would

713
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:24,450
have an abruptness. In other
words, they have the pregnant

714
00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:27,840
pause, and then hit the word.
And it would be a little softer.

715
00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:31,290
And it would be a little more
amenable to an to a network

716
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,410
audience listening to a
newscast. And that's what

717
00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:37,290
Obama's doing. I mean, you're
right, he could probably

718
00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:41,490
transform himself into a Paul
Harvey if he wanted to. But I

719
00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:44,550
think that it's gonna you know,
that style of presentation is

720
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:47,460
old fashioned. And I think it's
going to catch up to him.

721
00:41:47,489 --> 00:41:50,999
Yeah, but it is working dude. I
mean, he's totally got people

722
00:41:50,999 --> 00:41:51,659
loving him.

723
00:41:53,309 --> 00:41:57,059
Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, he's
seems like a very likeable guy.

724
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:02,070
That I don't know. And even, you
know, to me, he doesn't seem

725
00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:03,390
like a very likeable guy.

726
00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:06,449
Well, I mean, he'd seems like,
yeah, maybe you're right. I

727
00:42:06,449 --> 00:42:09,269
mean, I've heard stories that
he's actually kind of mean

728
00:42:09,269 --> 00:42:12,419
spirited. And one of those guys
likes to boss around the hired

729
00:42:12,419 --> 00:42:12,809
help.

730
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:17,940
You know, by the way, John, just
before we embark on this, do you

731
00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:18,840
know that a lot

732
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,860
of kind of

733
00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:26,070
silly crap, I knew that was
going to happen? Let's get John

734
00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:31,110
back on the line. Hold on. Oh,
okay. We're back. A little Skype

735
00:42:31,110 --> 00:42:34,080
crashed there. As you pointed
out, it's amazing. It works at

736
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,900
all. And what oh, what I was
gonna say you were in the middle

737
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:39,960
of your rant. I was just gonna
say that after the last show. We

738
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,100
did. And we talked about Obama,
I got a lot of really angry

739
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:48,660
emails from people saying, Who
were we to bash Obama? And I'm

740
00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:53,820
like, Dude, we didn't bash and
we bashed everybody. You know, I

741
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:55,380
don't think we, you know,

742
00:42:56,070 --> 00:42:59,280
I don't know, Obama. Obama is
essentially the Macintosh of

743
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,330
politics. There you

744
00:43:00,359 --> 00:43:03,389
go. You can't say anything.

745
00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:08,820
You can't say anything about
him. You know, the thing is,

746
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:12,330
again, though, the public is,
you know, this is early. I mean,

747
00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:15,690
we're talking about to the
election in November. And at

748
00:43:15,690 --> 00:43:19,410
some you know, this though,
everything is like, we haven't

749
00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:22,410
even seen you know, what's going
to happen when, you know, the

750
00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:26,490
fickle public is going to react
to a bomb over time. Especially

751
00:43:26,490 --> 00:43:34,140
when, and if the comics take him
on and the and the real critics

752
00:43:34,170 --> 00:43:37,020
jump in and they start putting
his feet to the fire and say,

753
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:40,380
you know, okay, which did work
changes cool, but, you know,

754
00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:43,710
what does it mean? Now mean you
sure we just dropped issue we

755
00:43:43,710 --> 00:43:45,660
dropped the Constitution. That's
a change

756
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,330
Weymouth know what, just to
clarify, he didn't actually say

757
00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:52,170
that anywhere, did he?

758
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,819
No, no, but I'm just saying I
mean, you if you just want

759
00:43:56,819 --> 00:44:00,209
change for change sake, why
don't we do instal a king?

760
00:44:00,869 --> 00:44:05,639
Yeah, yeah, I You're right. I
mean, I wouldn't mind here, you

761
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,859
know. So just getting back to
Olbermann, kind of in a

762
00:44:07,859 --> 00:44:12,509
roundabout way. You could also
conceive that entire episode he

763
00:44:12,509 --> 00:44:15,809
did and I'm sure Bubba Martin
will put some amazing links in

764
00:44:15,809 --> 00:44:18,839
the show notes either you I saw
it was on diboride got to work

765
00:44:18,839 --> 00:44:22,379
obviously. So you can you can
find the the video that opened

766
00:44:22,409 --> 00:44:27,419
up over there as well. You could
also construe this as being a

767
00:44:27,509 --> 00:44:29,249
setup with the Obama camp.

768
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:35,249
Yeah, that could be I mean, he's
obviously I mean, it's almost

769
00:44:35,279 --> 00:44:41,879
does bother me that that people
who Jan Winter came on Jan

770
00:44:41,879 --> 00:44:44,789
Winter came on he and which is
what his name should be. Yeah.

771
00:44:44,849 --> 00:44:51,179
Jan winter. The publisher of old
stone came on. He was on MSNBC

772
00:44:51,209 --> 00:44:55,589
in an interview show with
Michael Eisner. And the two of

773
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:57,869
them were going banned when he
just comes out says he's a big,

774
00:44:58,109 --> 00:45:01,979
you know, they're pushing Obama
Yeah, I don't know, publication,

775
00:45:01,979 --> 00:45:05,549
you know? I don't know. I mean,
I guess if you're just in their

776
00:45:05,549 --> 00:45:07,829
camp, and I don't think he's
anything wrong with, you know,

777
00:45:08,129 --> 00:45:11,099
advising the public at some
point but to become a tool of

778
00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:13,859
propaganda, I think is another
issue. And I think that's it's,

779
00:45:13,919 --> 00:45:18,029
it's dubious. I mean, even on
the blog, we have a mixed bag of

780
00:45:18,029 --> 00:45:20,789
people who like this and that,
but we try to at least everybody

781
00:45:20,789 --> 00:45:23,219
gets their, you know, their
opinion. It's not like one

782
00:45:23,219 --> 00:45:27,449
thing. I think it's, by the way
did come up with a good one,

783
00:45:27,449 --> 00:45:30,779
though. My wife actually came up
with it. I'm promoting it. It's

784
00:45:30,779 --> 00:45:34,409
too it's the it's that McCain
should take Hillary as the vice

785
00:45:34,409 --> 00:45:34,949
president.

786
00:45:35,069 --> 00:45:40,019
I saw that. Right. Okay. That's
real realistic, John. Nice.

787
00:45:40,050 --> 00:45:41,580
It's possible. Hey, you know,
they

788
00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:44,520
were talking about libre
mineral. That's not possible.

789
00:45:45,150 --> 00:45:46,020
I think it is.

790
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:50,190
I mean, what clearly happened
and this, of course, is where

791
00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:54,090
your your theory that Hillary
would get the nomination no

792
00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:56,520
matter what. Now, what clearly
happened is that some of the

793
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,730
seeped over into the
institutional money, guys. And I

794
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:02,460
think they all just, you know,
kind of said, well, screw it,

795
00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:04,710
you know, we just want a winning
horse here. We'll just switch

796
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:07,530
over to Obama, you know, and
they started backing him. And

797
00:46:07,530 --> 00:46:09,810
then you know, it was done. It
was over with.

798
00:46:11,579 --> 00:46:14,159
Yeah, it was, I think it is over
with him. And I don't see how

799
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:16,979
she can pull a rabbit out of a
hat. Now. I think it's, I mean,

800
00:46:16,979 --> 00:46:21,749
I thought it was possible. But
she never did get that one. I

801
00:46:21,749 --> 00:46:24,569
mean, she couldn't get quite get
the momentum back when she lost

802
00:46:24,569 --> 00:46:27,419
in a lot of STEM is bad. And
everybody will say the same

803
00:46:27,419 --> 00:46:31,259
thing. It stems to her arrogance
at the beginning, thinking she

804
00:46:31,259 --> 00:46:34,589
was gonna get the nomination.
Jon Stewart had a real funny bit

805
00:46:34,589 --> 00:46:37,019
where he showed all these people
predicting it early on and

806
00:46:37,019 --> 00:46:41,429
guaranteeing it to all these
pundits on TV, that she was like

807
00:46:41,429 --> 00:46:45,749
you I never Well, I did. Yeah,
you're right. But I yeah, I did.

808
00:46:45,959 --> 00:46:49,109
You're right. I'm one of them.
But I'm not on TV doing it. I

809
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:49,499
guess that's

810
00:46:50,610 --> 00:46:52,800
okay. It makes it beside the
point. I

811
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,770
still have the bit the other
way. So, anyway, yeah, you're

812
00:46:55,770 --> 00:46:59,880
right. And I feel bad. So but
anyway, so the point is, is that

813
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,670
she was she was cocky at the
beginning. And she had a bunch

814
00:47:02,670 --> 00:47:05,610
of her pals doing all the work
for she didn't have any of the

815
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,690
hot political consultants that
you would normally hire. She was

816
00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:13,260
using her friends, you know, her
sorority sisters. And they

817
00:47:13,290 --> 00:47:16,680
dropped the ball. Yeah, you
know, they screwed up left and

818
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,470
right. She had to fire a two
different groups of them before

819
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:22,320
she get on track. And but by the
time she got on track, she was

820
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:25,470
so far behind in the race that
she couldn't catch up. It was a

821
00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:26,400
disaster.

822
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:29,700
Yeah, I think it'll go down in
the history books as how not to

823
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:30,210
do it.

824
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:34,109
Yeah, no, absolutely. It could,
you know, total screw up. It

825
00:47:34,109 --> 00:47:37,319
was. I mean, it was incompetence
at every imaginable level, which

826
00:47:37,319 --> 00:47:39,659
makes you wonder what kind of a
president she'd be.

827
00:47:40,889 --> 00:47:42,599
Nice way to run a show Hillary.

828
00:47:43,469 --> 00:47:46,499
So I mean, it's just essentially
given it away. I mean, Obama was

829
00:47:46,499 --> 00:47:50,909
on some interview showing Asami
was was talking to somebody in

830
00:47:50,909 --> 00:47:54,149
his plane, and talking about how
he says, look at we look at

831
00:47:54,149 --> 00:47:56,579
that, you know, I can manage,
check, check out what I've been

832
00:47:56,579 --> 00:47:59,519
doing with this election. You
know, this is a management job

833
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,429
that I'm doing here, and I'm
winning it does that say

834
00:48:02,429 --> 00:48:06,419
something for me, and it does in
that regard. It's definitely

835
00:48:06,419 --> 00:48:09,059
says that, you know, Hillary, if
she was the president, you just

836
00:48:09,179 --> 00:48:12,209
lie in the office with a bunch
of cronies, we just have another

837
00:48:12,389 --> 00:48:13,409
democratic version of

838
00:48:13,409 --> 00:48:18,659
Bush. And amongst all of this, a
very important player in, in

839
00:48:18,659 --> 00:48:21,929
this elections in the United
States passed away Tim Russert

840
00:48:21,929 --> 00:48:26,669
from Meet the Press, which was,
you know, I actually, I saw it

841
00:48:26,669 --> 00:48:29,549
on your blog. That's where I
first read the news. And it

842
00:48:29,549 --> 00:48:32,879
really shocked me, it's, you
know, I was like, wow, fuck, I

843
00:48:32,879 --> 00:48:34,169
didn't expect that to happen.

844
00:48:36,059 --> 00:48:39,419
Yeah, it was out of the blue.
You know, I was just one of the

845
00:48:39,419 --> 00:48:42,419
guys at the office was watching
him. He said he saw him a week

846
00:48:42,419 --> 00:48:45,299
ago or something. He said he
didn't look right. Maybe it's

847
00:48:45,299 --> 00:48:49,169
something you know, one of those
weird heart conditions. Yeah.

848
00:48:49,169 --> 00:48:51,539
Well, I should, because he's
only 58. Yeah, I

849
00:48:51,540 --> 00:48:54,090
showed a picture too. Because,
you know, obviously I talked

850
00:48:54,090 --> 00:48:56,880
about this with Patricia last
night I said, so here's here's

851
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,220
two things. First of all, you
could say there's a conspiracy

852
00:48:59,460 --> 00:49:01,650
because of course he does have a
lot of knowledge about the

853
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:04,920
Valerie Plame affair and all of
that and said but take a look at

854
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,010
the picture. And Patricia looked
took one look she said Look at

855
00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:10,740
those eyes. They're puffing he
has huge pressure behind his

856
00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:13,410
eyes. I bet he was a he was
suffering from high blood

857
00:49:13,410 --> 00:49:14,850
pressure and something just blew
up

858
00:49:16,050 --> 00:49:20,490
maybe although I like the
conspiracy thing a lot. He liked

859
00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:23,040
that one. Well, you know it
doesn't take much in a little

860
00:49:23,610 --> 00:49:26,670
plastic acid and there's other
techniques to make you look like

861
00:49:26,670 --> 00:49:31,350
he had a heart attack and it's
can't be traced well I don't

862
00:49:31,350 --> 00:49:33,060
know whether you want to kill
him I mean, you

863
00:49:33,060 --> 00:49:35,430
know there's a lot riding on
that he you know, he is

864
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:38,760
mentioned in a lot of these
documents with his this Valerie

865
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,400
Plame thing is no joke. I mean,
this people are gonna go to jail

866
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,800
over this. There's people
sitting in jail now I think.

867
00:49:45,449 --> 00:49:49,349
Perhaps, generally speaking,
they just keep denying it and

868
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:53,789
then it goes away. But maybe
whatever the case is, yeah,

869
00:49:53,819 --> 00:49:56,639
well, yeah, he was a big I guess
he wasn't. He was pretty

870
00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:58,889
neutral. Yeah, he has been
criticised by the right wing

871
00:49:58,889 --> 00:50:01,529
talk show guys for being alive.
After weighing character because

872
00:50:01,529 --> 00:50:03,509
of all his background, he was
like he worked. He's a

873
00:50:03,539 --> 00:50:06,569
politician or worked in
politics, most of his life. And

874
00:50:06,569 --> 00:50:08,699
then he became a journalist
later, but I always thought he

875
00:50:08,699 --> 00:50:14,999
was pretty, pretty good as a
neutral commentator.

876
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:19,020
Well, to me, he was just as
important to my Sundays as the

877
00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:24,030
Financial Times and PG Tips. You
know, I get the, I get the

878
00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:28,320
podcast version, which downloads
around five or six o'clock on

879
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,470
Sunday afternoon, Sunday
evening. And I always enjoyed

880
00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:33,930
watching it. There's only two
shows. It's like the McLaughlin

881
00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:38,550
group, which reminds me of a
political, like Dvorak was

882
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:44,160
McLaughlin. And, and meet the
wrong. Bye bye.

883
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,020
Yeah, McLachlan I saw him in New
York once you know, he just

884
00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:54,030
looks like I mean, he does look
like a cranky geek. I think more

885
00:50:54,030 --> 00:50:54,630
than I do.

886
00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:57,090
Hope. Yes. No worries, John.

887
00:50:58,619 --> 00:51:02,339
So anyway, so that's kind of the
Olbermann team that's about the

888
00:51:02,339 --> 00:51:05,759
best we can do is say he's just
essentially an Obama, you know,

889
00:51:07,169 --> 00:51:10,049
Guy period to what it is. So

890
00:51:11,730 --> 00:51:14,610
just to go back on that I really
liked to be able to get in on

891
00:51:14,610 --> 00:51:17,580
these conference calls. I mean,
that's, that's the shit that

892
00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:19,590
I well, you know, there's gotta
be somebody out there, this got

893
00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:22,590
to dial in number you would
expect I mean, they sent it

894
00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:25,830
seems to me that if you have a
dial and here's what bothers me

895
00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:30,930
about the media again, if you
got a dial in number, why aren't

896
00:51:30,930 --> 00:51:36,390
you recording this thing? And
then posting it someplace? Just,

897
00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:39,090
you know, I think it'd be more
interesting than your

898
00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:45,510
interpretation of it. Oh, yeah.
I had a call yesterday with a

899
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:50,910
guy who wrote to an the latest
book on the death of Marilyn

900
00:51:50,910 --> 00:51:54,480
Monroe. So I'm gonna post the
audio of it. I have the whole

901
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,320
conversation to about 18 and a
half minutes. And it's actually

902
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,160
quite interesting.

903
00:51:59,999 --> 00:52:02,579
Quite interesting. Was this is a
chat or did you interview?

904
00:52:02,909 --> 00:52:05,609
No, you know, here was an
interview. So it was not

905
00:52:05,609 --> 00:52:09,119
interview. So I ran as such by
didn't read that the same much.

906
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,519
He's one of those guys with a
million stories. He's an old

907
00:52:11,849 --> 00:52:13,769
because he worked with the
coroner's office or something

908
00:52:13,769 --> 00:52:19,649
during that era as an older guy.
And it'll be I'll be posting it

909
00:52:19,649 --> 00:52:20,639
probably Monday or Tuesday.

910
00:52:20,759 --> 00:52:23,429
Oh, cool. You're going to do
that on tech five, or just under

911
00:52:23,429 --> 00:52:24,629
vorak? Are we gonna do that

912
00:52:24,659 --> 00:52:27,749
I just do it on divorce. It's
not really a tech five. As you

913
00:52:27,749 --> 00:52:30,659
know, tech five has got to be
about tech because nothing high

914
00:52:30,659 --> 00:52:34,619
tech about Marilyn Monroe being,
you know, cajoled into killing

915
00:52:34,619 --> 00:52:36,119
herself, which is basically

916
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:38,729
that's theory. That's the
theory. Okay. Well,

917
00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:42,480
the guy wrote a book on on how
there are personality types that

918
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,800
are prone to suicide. And they
often match up with personality

919
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,830
types. In other words, they get
married to or they hang out with

920
00:52:49,830 --> 00:52:54,570
people who drive them to
suicide. I actually wrote a book

921
00:52:54,570 --> 00:52:58,050
on this years ago, as I think
was his college dissertation for

922
00:52:58,050 --> 00:53:02,550
his PhD thesis. Was it a
dissertation once it whatever

923
00:53:02,550 --> 00:53:10,050
you do for the PhD, and
dissertation? So anyway, so he's

924
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,140
he says, These people match up a
lot. And he had examples of how

925
00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:17,490
one woman married one of these
pro you know, these one of these

926
00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:21,600
soft males who was always
threatening to kill himself, and

927
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,500
he was serious about it. And so
one day, she said, with the

928
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:29,070
comment that you if you ever
left me, I'd kill myself. If you

929
00:53:29,070 --> 00:53:33,150
ever left me, I'd kill myself.
And so she wrote him a note one

930
00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:36,630
day he says this documented by
the way, he wrote, she wrote in

931
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:40,560
my notes as I'm leaving you, and
then she left a gun there and

932
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,730
her last comment was, you know
what to do? And he shot himself.

933
00:53:44,969 --> 00:53:50,399
No shit. Oh, cry, Oh, man. You
know, with all this, with all

934
00:53:50,399 --> 00:53:53,609
this, with all this Marilyn
Monroe stuff, because I think

935
00:53:53,609 --> 00:53:57,659
there's also some, some new
footage on scene footage, which

936
00:53:57,659 --> 00:54:01,619
is being auctioned on Monday or
Tuesday. There's a lot of

937
00:54:01,619 --> 00:54:03,929
pictures that are now in the
press of Marilyn Monroe again,

938
00:54:03,929 --> 00:54:05,999
that kind of heats up and I was
looking at one of her more

939
00:54:05,999 --> 00:54:10,229
famous pictures. It was a really
big it was in a restaurant in in

940
00:54:10,229 --> 00:54:12,569
the bathroom on the wall, you
know, as you do, you're kind of

941
00:54:12,569 --> 00:54:15,929
sitting there or standing. I'm
sorry, doing your business. I'm

942
00:54:15,929 --> 00:54:18,179
looking at this picture.
Alright, you know, she wasn't

943
00:54:18,179 --> 00:54:19,529
really all that hot

944
00:54:23,789 --> 00:54:26,699
Well, it did. By today's
standards, you know, it's hard

945
00:54:26,699 --> 00:54:30,329
to say she had I've seen a lot
of photos of her because you

946
00:54:30,329 --> 00:54:35,039
can't not and she I thought she
was really had a really pretty

947
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:35,639
face.

948
00:54:35,759 --> 00:54:39,089
Yeah, but she made them in a
MILFy way but not like in a in a

949
00:54:39,089 --> 00:54:42,329
young sex bomb way. If you look
at her hands and her fingers,

950
00:54:42,539 --> 00:54:46,289
and you look at the condition of
her skin around her around her

951
00:54:46,289 --> 00:54:48,359
neck. I mean, I'm really picky
about this. I'm really looking

952
00:54:48,359 --> 00:54:52,469
at it inherently. Yeah, but you
know, I had I was there for

953
00:54:52,469 --> 00:54:55,529
like, two minutes. I got nothing
better to do and, and so I'm

954
00:54:55,529 --> 00:55:00,419
really examining this and like,
you know, and also But maybe I

955
00:55:00,419 --> 00:55:03,899
should say this. Maybe it's
because I've become so used to

956
00:55:03,899 --> 00:55:07,919
looking at these photoshopped
completely, you know, unnatural

957
00:55:07,919 --> 00:55:11,039
looking beauties that are in
today's media. This is what

958
00:55:11,069 --> 00:55:15,239
women actually look like,
honestly. And they didn't use

959
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,729
any of those techniques back in
the day and maybe it's that

960
00:55:18,210 --> 00:55:21,960
could be, although you might
just be hypercritical, so that

961
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,750
we were trying, which, which is
probably more like it. So

962
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:26,670
meanwhile, I'm you So this
reminds me of a

963
00:55:26,669 --> 00:55:30,059
story. Fuck you very much. Okay,
your next story. Yeah.

964
00:55:30,149 --> 00:55:34,199
So I'm going I'm in Amsterdam
with this group of people and

965
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,109
we're floating around the area
where all the hookers are there

966
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:40,439
were these girls in those little
booths. There's like, rows of

967
00:55:40,439 --> 00:55:42,269
them and they're all over the
place, which is rolling around

968
00:55:42,299 --> 00:55:43,949
notice the red light district.

969
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,669
Anyway, but it's the one that
for the tourists, you know that

970
00:55:47,669 --> 00:55:50,009
apparently there's a couple of
them there. And it is but it's

971
00:55:50,009 --> 00:55:52,109
like a bunch of people guys
walking down and see anybody

972
00:55:52,109 --> 00:55:54,869
even doing any business but it's
kind of fun to walk by. So I'm

973
00:55:54,869 --> 00:55:57,719
walking by it just as I'm about
to turn a corner. I'm looking

974
00:55:57,749 --> 00:56:00,689
I'm with a bunch of these other
people in this group. And I look

975
00:56:00,689 --> 00:56:04,409
inside and I and this girl's in
there. And I just make the

976
00:56:04,409 --> 00:56:09,419
comments that she's not that
hot. And so I turned the corner

977
00:56:09,419 --> 00:56:13,049
apparently there's I guess the
windows there are so thin. She

978
00:56:13,049 --> 00:56:16,349
heard you think she was I didn't
think she would was here. I

979
00:56:16,349 --> 00:56:20,939
didn't heard that. So she
apparently comes role at roaring

980
00:56:20,939 --> 00:56:25,019
out of the little booth thing
and start screaming at this

981
00:56:25,019 --> 00:56:27,779
group of people. Meanwhile, I
have turned the corner I'm gone.

982
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:32,549
So she just berating them and
cussing them up and down and

983
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:36,119
just the way the story was told
to me and then they come and

984
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:39,149
finally catch up to me and they
say You son of a bitch. You know

985
00:56:39,149 --> 00:56:42,959
what? You got us into trouble?
That's common. I was completely

986
00:56:42,959 --> 00:56:47,669
oblivious. And she was that hot
though? That was the point.

987
00:56:50,489 --> 00:56:50,909
Yeah,

988
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:52,020
you gotta be careful man. What
do you

989
00:56:52,020 --> 00:56:54,840
say? Just kind of sense it but
now I know not to say anything

990
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,120
around those that think because
they can hear you

991
00:56:57,149 --> 00:56:59,249
now they don't understand any
more because now they're all

992
00:56:59,249 --> 00:57:02,309
from Croatia. They don't they
don't speak any English or

993
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:04,469
Dutch. It's they've ruined the
whole vibe.

994
00:57:05,579 --> 00:57:07,589
Yeah, I've heard bad things.
Yeah,

995
00:57:07,620 --> 00:57:11,910
it's really it's no more fun
there. I'm reliably informed.

996
00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:18,810
Oh, well for you. So big thing
happening over here.

997
00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:24,840
By the way, Croatian women are
pretty hot looking. The ones

998
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,420
when I go to well, maybe the
ones they're shipping out aren't

999
00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:30,660
maybe that's what that deal is
as possible. But I'll tell you

1000
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:33,990
when I was when I was in Croatia
I've been there a couple of

1001
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:36,210
times because I write for a
magazine there so I go there

1002
00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:39,420
float around there. There are
more women there that are Dead

1003
00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:42,540
Ringers for Natalie Wood than
any place I've ever been.

1004
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,530
Unbelievable. You know what I'm
going to send you this link

1005
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:51,000
right now I got a link from a
guy and it was the link it was

1006
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,690
titled A Iranian women are hot
and he's got this

1007
00:57:56,250 --> 00:57:58,770
I know man with a Persians a
Persian women you know are

1008
00:57:58,770 --> 00:57:59,880
traditionally hot

1009
00:57:59,909 --> 00:58:03,149
Holy crap you got to see this
man it's like they are they're

1010
00:58:03,629 --> 00:58:06,569
terrible looking. There's no
there Syria Captain Chris sent

1011
00:58:06,569 --> 00:58:08,729
it to me here. Oh, it's a
YouTube video. Here we go. Hold

1012
00:58:08,729 --> 00:58:12,539
on. Captain Chris, who's a
commercial pilot. And he sent

1013
00:58:12,539 --> 00:58:14,879
this to me says dude I had so
no, you should

1014
00:58:14,879 --> 00:58:18,839
send it you should probably send
a copy to should send a copy to

1015
00:58:18,839 --> 00:58:19,319
Baba.

1016
00:58:20,099 --> 00:58:23,039
You mean the link will post it?
Yeah. Yeah. Well, hold on. Let

1017
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:25,649
me just I'll just send it in
through the you can because I

1018
00:58:25,649 --> 00:58:27,389
don't think there's even sound
with it. So you can just take a

1019
00:58:27,389 --> 00:58:33,119
look at it. But wow. smokin hot
is what I'd say.

1020
00:58:35,849 --> 00:58:40,109
Well, probably a good thing.
They're being kept down by the

1021
00:58:40,109 --> 00:58:45,149
moolah as I as it were.

1022
00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:50,100
Well, it's just kind of sad when
I think about it, you know,

1023
00:58:50,130 --> 00:58:55,410
because there's all this talk
about bombing Iran, striking

1024
00:58:55,410 --> 00:58:58,500
out. And I only realised just
the other day when I actually

1025
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:01,260
looked at a Google Earth I can
remember what I was looking for.

1026
00:59:01,470 --> 00:59:06,240
But yeah, it finally hit me when
I saw Afghanistan and where it

1027
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:11,310
lies in position to Iraq. And
then all sudden, I understood

1028
00:59:11,310 --> 00:59:16,410
why we're actually in
Afghanistan. Well, it's we're

1029
00:59:16,410 --> 00:59:17,490
surrounding Iran.

1030
00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:21,780
Well, we seem to be Oh, yeah.
People need to look at them. You

1031
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:24,360
know, people don't you know,
Americans in particular. We

1032
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,880
don't look at maps enough. I
forgot to

1033
00:59:26,879 --> 00:59:29,969
tell you, John, I got a really
big piece of news for you. I got

1034
00:59:29,969 --> 00:59:36,989
a scoop of Rooney. Oh, good. So
I was allowed to ask on behalf

1035
00:59:36,989 --> 00:59:41,669
of my Dutch audience a question
to the president of Iran. Mr.

1036
00:59:41,669 --> 00:59:42,269
Karzai.

1037
00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:46,230
Now that you said the President
of Iran,

1038
00:59:46,349 --> 00:59:51,659
I'm sorry, Afghanistan. Right.
And so you want to know the

1039
00:59:51,659 --> 00:59:55,649
question? Yes, of course you do.
The question was, which I wish

1040
00:59:55,799 --> 00:59:59,759
was chosen for many entries was
how are you going to beat the

1041
00:59:59,759 --> 01:00:04,349
top The Bong, which I thought
was a genius question, because

1042
01:00:04,349 --> 01:00:06,839
of course, it has a false
bottom, seeing as the Russians

1043
01:00:06,839 --> 01:00:11,459
tried to beat the Taliban for 10
years. And you know, now the

1044
01:00:11,489 --> 01:00:14,939
deal is that the coalition is
supposed to stay in Afghanistan

1045
01:00:15,509 --> 01:00:20,069
until 2010. At which point, we
pull out our Well, that's what

1046
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:24,449
the deal is everyone pulls out
their troops, and then the, you

1047
01:00:24,449 --> 01:00:27,869
know, the Afghan army and and
their police should be strong

1048
01:00:27,869 --> 01:00:31,499
enough to take care of their
own. And he answered back, he

1049
01:00:31,499 --> 01:00:35,129
said, you know, what, I probably
don't think we can actually

1050
01:00:35,129 --> 01:00:40,019
defeat him. He sent it out,
right? He said, I don't think we

1051
01:00:40,019 --> 01:00:43,439
can defeat him by 2010, we won't
be able to do it. You know. So

1052
01:00:43,439 --> 01:00:48,119
here we are pouring billions
into into the country on a

1053
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:51,569
promise that we can get out by
2010. And the guy literally

1054
01:00:51,569 --> 01:00:56,969
says, No, I don't think we can
do it. Well, it's probably

1055
01:00:56,969 --> 01:00:58,889
right. And then

1056
01:00:58,950 --> 01:01:01,110
we had our shot at I don't
understand your one of the

1057
01:01:01,110 --> 01:01:05,160
things I've always thought is
that I don't know why we even

1058
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,400
send troops into these places.
We should just send assassins

1059
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:13,680
and and cruise missiles. So
these guys, so the Taliban takes

1060
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,960
over they you know, they're
having a big meeting, you just

1061
01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:17,970
bombed them. Come back, you
know,

1062
01:01:18,030 --> 01:01:20,940
but here's the whole problem.
The follow up to his answer was

1063
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:26,820
the core. The core, Taliban is
in Pakistan. He said they're not

1064
01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:28,380
even in Afghanistan. So

1065
01:01:28,410 --> 01:01:31,470
ya know, I think that's, I think
everybody knows that. Right?

1066
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:34,140
Yeah. But the whole messed up is
that we don't have any troops in

1067
01:01:34,140 --> 01:01:34,920
Pakistan.

1068
01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:38,250
Ya know, and every time we do
everything, some over there,

1069
01:01:38,250 --> 01:01:39,780
they'll get all bent out of
shape.

1070
01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:42,660
Yeah. And they got nuclear
weapons. How about let's, let's

1071
01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:45,990
go after those guys, you know,
screw the rest of them.

1072
01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:48,540
Because well, we were in bed
with them.

1073
01:01:49,469 --> 01:01:52,409
Yeah, why? How? How are we in
bed with them?

1074
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:55,200
Well, in that head that goes way
back. Because what happened

1075
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,220
years and years and years ago
was the India. During the Soviet

1076
01:01:59,220 --> 01:02:03,570
Union era, India became allies
with Russia. And that's where

1077
01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:05,550
they bought all their weaponry
and everything from and so

1078
01:02:05,580 --> 01:02:08,580
because of that, we decided,
well, we have to be allies with

1079
01:02:08,580 --> 01:02:12,480
Pakistan. Because with no
religious issue at the time, it

1080
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:18,300
was just all you know,
geopolitics. So the so the

1081
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:20,400
Indians were allied with the
Russia the whole time. And in

1082
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,830
fact, most of their weaponry and
all the jets and ever they were

1083
01:02:22,830 --> 01:02:27,300
buying everything from Russia.
And so we got in bed with

1084
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:31,110
Pakistan at that point. And you
know, even though when you

1085
01:02:31,110 --> 01:02:35,490
started looking at the analysing
it, if any, if we're close to

1086
01:02:35,490 --> 01:02:38,490
any country is India, because
they speak your while they speak

1087
01:02:38,490 --> 01:02:41,010
English in Pakistan too, but,
but they're, you know, more

1088
01:02:41,010 --> 01:02:44,280
connected to the British, that
most of the people that

1089
01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:48,030
immigrate to the United States
are more likely to be Indian and

1090
01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:52,260
Pakistani. You know, we eat
Indian food, the British are

1091
01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:55,560
like eat Indian food as if it
was Chinese food here in the US.

1092
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,120
I mean, they have to go take out
and delivery and it's amazing.

1093
01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:04,530
And, but because of the
geopolitics of it, that's the

1094
01:03:04,530 --> 01:03:09,060
reason. I'm sure could be
clarified by one of the experts

1095
01:03:09,060 --> 01:03:12,240
out there. But essentially, that
was it was the alliances of

1096
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,890
those of the Soviet era.

1097
01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:17,250
We're all going to hell in a
handbasket. Man.

1098
01:03:18,929 --> 01:03:19,829
It's a joke.

1099
01:03:21,389 --> 01:03:25,439
Well, you know, me, Mr.
Conspiracy Theory, all I can see

1100
01:03:25,439 --> 01:03:27,959
is, you know, just more and more
proof that this is all about

1101
01:03:27,959 --> 01:03:32,249
money and control over people
and control over territories

1102
01:03:32,249 --> 01:03:35,219
and, you know, forces at work
that aren't necessarily the

1103
01:03:35,219 --> 01:03:37,109
politicians, we think her
running the show?

1104
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:42,389
Well, I mean, I think there's
elements of that. But you know,

1105
01:03:42,389 --> 01:03:46,829
a lot of it is just the way
things have evolved because

1106
01:03:46,829 --> 01:03:49,589
they're distributed. I mean, if
you'd look at, I don't, I mean,

1107
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:53,339
there is a control issue. This
banks love to get in on certain

1108
01:03:53,339 --> 01:03:56,849
deals. And I mean, right now,
the oil crisis, I think that's

1109
01:03:56,849 --> 01:03:58,589
going to ensure the Bible
because it finally looks like it

1110
01:03:58,589 --> 01:04:00,179
just passed the legislation
needed to,

1111
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:04,559
or the close the loophole on
closed or Enron loophole. Yeah.

1112
01:04:04,619 --> 01:04:08,159
And that was there was a piece
of it left open. And so they

1113
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:10,559
could do all that. And the guys
who are the bad actors? Here,

1114
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:14,309
again, we're talking about
Dubai, and the London

1115
01:04:14,879 --> 01:04:19,289
commodities, people that are the
ones who are racking these oil

1116
01:04:19,289 --> 01:04:22,919
prices up. Then when it turns
around, which is going to be

1117
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:25,289
probably right after summer,

1118
01:04:25,949 --> 01:04:28,709
I think it's still gonna go
higher before it turns around.

1119
01:04:28,709 --> 01:04:30,419
John, I think that just gonna go
for it.

1120
01:04:31,110 --> 01:04:33,630
Well, I think it's right now
it's gonna be harder because of

1121
01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:38,520
the scrutiny has changed. And,
but I mean, you can, I mean, a

1122
01:04:38,550 --> 01:04:43,170
lot of my Smart Money friends
are already going short. I'm at

1123
01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:48,120
about 140 oil, right, hoping to
catch it on the downside because

1124
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,820
when it starts to go down, I
think I think you might be

1125
01:04:50,820 --> 01:04:53,250
right, it could go to 161 70. I
don't think it's going to make

1126
01:04:53,250 --> 01:04:56,790
200 now, but when it starts to
turn around starts to slide.

1127
01:04:56,790 --> 01:04:59,640
It's going to fall so fast. You
will know what happened. And

1128
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,310
then everybody He's gonna go oh
gee, well, that's interesting.

1129
01:05:02,670 --> 01:05:05,280
The thing that's weird to me is
that how the public is like

1130
01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:11,430
bamboozled, like me the best
example was the Enron, you know,

1131
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:15,750
the energy crisis that we'd had
years ago when they were having

1132
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:18,360
these rolling blackouts in
California, which made no

1133
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,200
logical sense. And they had all
these all these writers in the

1134
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,050
old newspapers, well, we don't
have enough power. And people

1135
01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:28,530
were using too much. There's all
these these rationales for this

1136
01:05:28,530 --> 01:05:31,650
when the whole thing was rigged.
And they were just turning the

1137
01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:35,250
power off. They were shortness,
they were basically cutting us

1138
01:05:35,250 --> 01:05:39,480
off so we have to pay more. And
nobody was paying any attention

1139
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,060
to that there was all this you
know, all the greenies came out

1140
01:05:42,060 --> 01:05:45,750
going on and on about oh my god,
we you know, we have to conserve

1141
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:48,630
more energy. We have to do this.
We have to do that one. It's

1142
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:50,550
just the whole thing was a scam.

1143
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,360
If you've never seen smartest
guys in the room, which is the

1144
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:59,340
Enron story produced by what's
the what's the maverick guy

1145
01:05:59,340 --> 01:06:00,810
name? What's his name?

1146
01:06:01,650 --> 01:06:04,170
I know the smartest guys in the
room. I can't remember who

1147
01:06:04,170 --> 01:06:04,500
produced

1148
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:07,379
the guy who the guy who sold
broadcast.com to Yahoo the

1149
01:06:07,379 --> 01:06:11,969
Mavericks Cuban Mark Cuban right
Mark Cuban produced that yeah,

1150
01:06:11,969 --> 01:06:12,569
that's his.

1151
01:06:13,230 --> 01:06:15,330
Why didn't know that. Okay. It's
called the zoo for him. Yeah,

1152
01:06:15,329 --> 01:06:17,639
it's called the smartest guys in
the room and you will literally

1153
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:23,429
hear recordings of these energy
traders. That's with a D for

1154
01:06:23,429 --> 01:06:27,119
delta. And literally hear them
saying all right, man, screw

1155
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,159
those guys. We're just going to
turn them off. All right, ready?

1156
01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:31,769
Yeah. Black Mr. Black them out.
You know, it was like fucking

1157
01:06:31,769 --> 01:06:34,169
crazy. Right? Meanwhile,

1158
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,290
who was writing about Demi, who
was investigating? This was all

1159
01:06:37,290 --> 01:06:39,570
the reporters were the
journalists. No, they're all

1160
01:06:39,570 --> 01:06:41,640
talking about how we should be
more green.

1161
01:06:41,789 --> 01:06:44,429
Yeah, there you go. And it's
happening again, right before

1162
01:06:44,429 --> 01:06:47,639
our very eyes is the big
institutions. They're all you

1163
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:50,729
know, they're rolling over these
these investments in oil

1164
01:06:50,729 --> 01:06:54,599
commodities month over month,
they keep tapping it up. And

1165
01:06:54,629 --> 01:06:57,059
they're screwing everyone.
They're absolutely screwing

1166
01:06:57,059 --> 01:06:59,519
everyone. And I bet you there's
recording somewhere that will

1167
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:02,879
surface and 10 years from now.
We hear these guys going Hey,

1168
01:07:02,879 --> 01:07:05,939
fuck, I'm gonna take the oil to
170 Come on, we can do it. Screw

1169
01:07:05,939 --> 01:07:08,129
everybody you watch that'll come
out?

1170
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:11,220
Oh, yeah, it probably will after
the fact and everyone, then

1171
01:07:11,220 --> 01:07:14,040
that'd be the next scam. You
know, and these things come and

1172
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,770
go and nobody picks up on it.
And the funny thing that

1173
01:07:16,770 --> 01:07:18,960
bothered bothers me the most.
And it really bothered me with

1174
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,770
the rolling blackouts during
that era is that it was obvious

1175
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:27,450
that it was a scam. Yeah, I
mean, you don't have you don't

1176
01:07:27,450 --> 01:07:32,130
go from having you know, 24/7
great power to having rolling

1177
01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:36,420
blackouts every month. Or even
when it's not as you know,

1178
01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:39,120
there's no, there's no weirdness
going on. It's not like we're

1179
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,350
having a blizzard.

1180
01:07:40,650 --> 01:07:43,320
Yeah, well, no, too many air
conditioners are on

1181
01:07:43,650 --> 01:07:46,080
top. There's no air conditioners
in California. We don't use

1182
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:46,350
them.

1183
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,690
But that's what the story was.
There's too much air

1184
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:49,860
conditioning being used.

1185
01:07:49,890 --> 01:07:52,890
Yeah, don't use your air
conditioners. It's unbelievable

1186
01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:56,040
and know what it had been. And
we had a Governor Grey Davis who

1187
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:01,140
was an out and out idiot. And he
was like, didn't do the I don't

1188
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:04,020
know who he had working for him.
But there was he was buying

1189
01:08:04,020 --> 01:08:06,750
right into it. Oh, yes. You
know, this is a problem because

1190
01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:09,030
we don't have enough power
capability generation

1191
01:08:09,030 --> 01:08:11,970
capability. And, you know, this
is gonna be the way it is from

1192
01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:14,610
now on. In fact, they were
telling us this was gonna be the

1193
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:17,880
way it's gonna be forever
rolling blackouts in California

1194
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,030
and and never gonna end. Nobody
thought this was like a little

1195
01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:21,690
odd.

1196
01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:24,930
Yeah, then no one no one got the
story. It was you go back and

1197
01:08:24,930 --> 01:08:27,480
look and see if anyone did get
the story or not, if anyone ever

1198
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:30,480
looked into that to any depth.
And how ironic is it?

1199
01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:32,910
Well, you know, there may have
been some alternative press,

1200
01:08:32,910 --> 01:08:37,410
maybe some alternative press
picked it up. I don't remember

1201
01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:38,550
seeing anything.

1202
01:08:39,929 --> 01:08:43,439
So this is the thing that they
were, this is a thing that I've

1203
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,469
learned and which is just as
bugging the shit out of me. So

1204
01:08:46,469 --> 01:08:50,909
we have this show, which only
got 35 40,000 People listen to

1205
01:08:50,909 --> 01:08:53,579
it on a weekly basis, maybe
more, I haven't looked in a

1206
01:08:53,579 --> 01:08:57,749
while. You know, and we're
discussing a lot of stuff. We're

1207
01:08:57,749 --> 01:09:00,929
talking about a lot of things,
but it has so little impact.

1208
01:09:00,929 --> 01:09:04,079
Whereas, you know, I get on a
little frickin rinky dink radio

1209
01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:07,139
station in Holland, which is
10th in the ratings no one gives

1210
01:09:07,139 --> 01:09:10,859
a shit about and all of a sudden
I get all this access doors open

1211
01:09:10,859 --> 01:09:14,939
up, I can get any kind of Member
of Parliament ministers, you

1212
01:09:14,939 --> 01:09:18,149
know, anything I want just
because it's radio because it's,

1213
01:09:18,179 --> 01:09:22,439
quote, mass media. It pisses me
off. We're so far from the

1214
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,049
tipping point on any of this
stuff. It's all just it's this

1215
01:09:25,049 --> 01:09:28,019
noise in the ether,
unfortunately, I think we are,

1216
01:09:28,049 --> 01:09:32,279
you know, opening up individuals
and citizens minds to other

1217
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:35,129
thinking and you know, kind of
red pill like, you know, like,

1218
01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:37,619
Hey, dude, there might be
something else going on here.

1219
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:41,129
But it really has so little
impact and I'm so frustrated by

1220
01:09:41,129 --> 01:09:41,279
it.

1221
01:09:41,730 --> 01:09:44,670
Yeah, it doesn't bother me. I
figure it's got no impact, but

1222
01:09:44,670 --> 01:09:47,040
at some point we can sell these
people something.

1223
01:09:51,540 --> 01:09:54,510
Now you're talking all right.
That's the American spirit.

1224
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,600
Some books done or something at
least we have an audience for

1225
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:58,320
God's sake.

1226
01:09:58,830 --> 01:10:01,620
Hey, speaking of books, have you
ever McClellan's book yet the

1227
01:10:01,650 --> 01:10:03,450
former White House Press
Secretary,

1228
01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:06,990
you know, I've seen that guy,
you know, I, that guy bothers

1229
01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:07,830
me, too.

1230
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:10,230
I thank you for saying that. I'm
happy. Oh, by the way,

1231
01:10:10,230 --> 01:10:15,060
I was in New York can talk with
my agent and I was talking to

1232
01:10:15,060 --> 01:10:22,260
some other literary people in
the business. And in the story

1233
01:10:22,260 --> 01:10:25,950
behind the book was, I don't
think is necessarily No, no.

1234
01:10:26,940 --> 01:10:30,270
Apparently he McClellan they had
this manuscript that he's been

1235
01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:35,100
he was, he was schlepping around
Manhattan agencies for quite a

1236
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:38,940
while. And it was either the
publisher or one of the agents

1237
01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:41,700
who said, Look, unless you come
up with some stuff in here,

1238
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:46,110
that's a little more spam, you
know, scandalous. We can't

1239
01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:48,750
publish it, because no one's
gonna buy this boring book you

1240
01:10:48,750 --> 01:10:53,460
wrote. So he went back to the
drawing board and came up with

1241
01:10:53,460 --> 01:10:55,650
some stuff. And then they made
him do some more along those

1242
01:10:55,650 --> 01:10:59,070
same lines. And so the whole
thing was just created for the

1243
01:10:59,070 --> 01:11:01,320
purposes of selling the book.
And I don't think he's sincere

1244
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,750
about it. I think he's any when
you see him, he seems very

1245
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:07,080
sheepish. And he still talks
about how great the President

1246
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:07,440
is.

1247
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:09,390
Yeah. You know, I've heard him
in three interviews. Now. I

1248
01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:14,280
heard him on. What's Terry,
gross, NPR. Whatever. That's

1249
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:20,490
yeah. And fresh air fresh air. I
heard him on another NPR on the

1250
01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:23,670
media. I've seen a couple of
interviews, he has exactly the

1251
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:27,150
same story, exactly the same
answers. He's like, he's like a

1252
01:11:27,150 --> 01:11:31,710
robot. And it all seems to focus
on two things. Which is

1253
01:11:31,710 --> 01:11:34,710
annoying, because you really
rarely get any real content. In

1254
01:11:34,710 --> 01:11:36,870
fact, I don't believe there's
any content of this book.

1255
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,770
Because the things are the so
called he says, well, it's very

1256
01:11:40,770 --> 01:11:43,890
clear that the White House had a
meeting in the you know, in the

1257
01:11:43,890 --> 01:11:46,980
situation, room, whatever. And
came up with talking points

1258
01:11:46,980 --> 01:11:50,100
about me and the talking points
we're going to be this is not

1259
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:54,510
the McCollum that I know this
sounds like someone else wrote

1260
01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:58,620
this book. And of course, you
know, everyone, you know, plays

1261
01:11:58,620 --> 01:12:02,190
the just like Jon Stewart does
plays the bits of all the

1262
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:05,760
different commentary,
commentators saying exactly

1263
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,570
that. And they all feel betrayed
by this guy saying, Well, you

1264
01:12:09,570 --> 01:12:15,330
lied to us, and you're on on
December 13 2005. You said this,

1265
01:12:15,330 --> 01:12:18,930
and he's like, yeah, thank you,
hon. It's like who? It's just

1266
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:22,080
like, get to the content of the
book. It's not there.

1267
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,950
Yeah, no, I agree. I have no
interest. I mean, I've seen him

1268
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:28,110
interviewed. I've heard the same
things you're talking about. I

1269
01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:31,710
saw the Jon Stewart ridicule.
It's just I don't there's no

1270
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:36,360
nothing there. It's just uh, you
know, it's a publicity stunt.

1271
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,880
And I don't mean, not even
impressed by it. But anyway, the

1272
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,140
back story is that he what his
real tale originally was just

1273
01:12:43,170 --> 01:12:48,360
dull. Like he is he's adult guy.
I always thought he was a snot

1274
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,280
when he was the press secretary.

1275
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:55,260
So the point he's trying to make
is that he too got sucked into

1276
01:12:55,290 --> 01:12:59,550
the way things are done in, in
politics in general, and

1277
01:12:59,550 --> 01:13:03,150
certainly Washington
specifically. And that's no

1278
01:13:03,150 --> 01:13:05,550
message no one gives a shit.
Everyone knows it's like that.

1279
01:13:06,270 --> 01:13:09,000
Yeah, I know. It's not breaking
any new grounds, that's for

1280
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,430
sure. There's a lot of good
books. The problem is there's a

1281
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:14,220
lot of good books about this
administration, lots of them.

1282
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:16,650
And a lot of them end up the
guru author show up on the

1283
01:13:16,650 --> 01:13:20,520
Stewart show. And this book is
just a smokescreen book. And it

1284
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,950
just takes it takes over. You
know, it takes money out of the

1285
01:13:23,220 --> 01:13:26,640
pockets of the writers who are
actually doing good work, and

1286
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,460
puts it into this guy's pockets,
and it doesn't accomplish

1287
01:13:29,460 --> 01:13:31,980
anything. I think it's a bad
idea. I don't think people

1288
01:13:31,980 --> 01:13:32,940
should buy this book.

1289
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,960
And by the way, if you are in
the United Kingdom, and I

1290
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:42,210
believe tomorrow, Sunday, the
that'll be the 15th. I believe

1291
01:13:42,210 --> 01:13:45,810
George Bush is coming to visit
the United Kingdom. I think he's

1292
01:13:45,810 --> 01:13:48,480
on his farewell tour. And
there's some huge

1293
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,210
demonstrations. It is is

1294
01:13:51,210 --> 01:13:55,920
he gonna be willing to share?
Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be it's

1295
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,160
gonna be President Bush shear
and Bill Gates.

1296
01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:04,890
Yeah, they're all saying goodbye
again. So I think there's some

1297
01:14:04,890 --> 01:14:08,790
huge demonstrations planned for
his arrival. I think it's I

1298
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:11,850
think it's tomorrow to be
interesting. Yeah.

1299
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:16,350
Yeah, those demonstrations have
not been effective. Now, yes,

1300
01:14:16,350 --> 01:14:20,040
they make people feel good, but
I think it's a pointless waste

1301
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:20,550
of time.

1302
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,620
Well, I think when people want
to express their emotions,

1303
01:14:25,620 --> 01:14:30,270
that's good. You know, when
people say Did it help? No, but

1304
01:14:30,270 --> 01:14:32,100
it made me feel good, I think
yeah, I

1305
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:34,170
guess that's okay. That's
important. And if they have

1306
01:14:34,170 --> 01:14:37,560
creative sign signage, I think
that would be cool. Yeah.

1307
01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:46,290
Creative signage. Nice. So what
else we got anything? I think

1308
01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:46,800
we're done.

1309
01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:58,890
Me see. Yeah, this just in
Germany and France moved to

1310
01:14:58,890 --> 01:15:01,110
isolate Ireland. The European
Union.

1311
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:04,830
What is this? Elena says really?

1312
01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:08,820
Yeah, Guardian, Germany and
France have moved to isolate

1313
01:15:08,820 --> 01:15:11,580
Ireland in the European Union
scrambling for ways to

1314
01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:14,100
resuscitate the Lisbon Treaty
after the Irish dealt the

1315
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:16,800
architects of the union's new
regime of crushing, defeat,

1316
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,330
refusing. So I get it, so you
just like we have the votes.

1317
01:15:21,330 --> 01:15:24,990
It's like It's like making a bet
with some guy. So okay, I'll

1318
01:15:24,990 --> 01:15:28,170
flip before it heads okay. 23
Yeah, okay. Okay.

1319
01:15:29,550 --> 01:15:32,430
Three out of five three out of
five heads I win tails you lose.

1320
01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:35,430
Come on. Boom, boom, can I okay
with the five out of seven and

1321
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:38,430
then they will do it. I mean,
you just like give me a break

1322
01:15:38,910 --> 01:15:42,690
as nuts there are local as well
as European elections in Ireland

1323
01:15:42,690 --> 01:15:45,960
next year and Fianna Fail will
not risk having to hold another

1324
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,100
referendum not within the next
12 months at least. You know

1325
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,610
these guys and they went for all
I know this may be a great a

1326
01:15:53,610 --> 01:15:58,020
great treaty. Why don't they
just spend you know 500 million

1327
01:15:58,020 --> 01:16:00,600
euros and go explain it to
people

1328
01:16:00,990 --> 01:16:04,080
write a full rewrite. It's so
absurd in simpler language.

1329
01:16:04,410 --> 01:16:08,100
Just you know give a give the
guy blue collar guy a break.

1330
01:16:08,580 --> 01:16:13,020
We talked about this last week a
good contract is is is clear.

1331
01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:17,400
And that's what this is. It's a
conscious not a constitution.

1332
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,970
It's a contract. You know,
Constitution is that what like

1333
01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:24,990
the US has there's other ones
it's simple. You know, it's

1334
01:16:24,990 --> 01:16:28,080
simple then you can you work
with it. This is a is a giant

1335
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,260
contract, obviously. But it's
not clear.

1336
01:16:32,190 --> 01:16:34,290
Now you should take a look at a
John you should you should I'll

1337
01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:36,840
send you the link he's just take
a look at it. And just if you

1338
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,480
want to laugh because you won't
get through two pages of it. I'm

1339
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:42,270
actually give it to my wife
likes reading contracts. So

1340
01:16:42,270 --> 01:16:44,190
maybe I'll give it to her and
she can plough through it.

1341
01:16:44,250 --> 01:16:46,860
That'd be great. Maybe she'll
she can give us some info on it.

1342
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:52,170
I don't understand it. So the
only two things I think we have

1343
01:16:52,170 --> 01:16:56,610
left open one is on your side is
cuz we really it was not well

1344
01:16:56,610 --> 01:17:01,590
explained here in Europe. Bush
suffered some form of defeat

1345
01:17:02,010 --> 01:17:04,470
over the prisoners at Guantanamo
Bay.

1346
01:17:05,970 --> 01:17:08,670
Yeah, there's this is, uh, this
one had this is actually an

1347
01:17:08,670 --> 01:17:16,890
interesting situations. The
Supreme Court said that, that

1348
01:17:16,890 --> 01:17:22,320
the US government has
essentially took the sovereignty

1349
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:26,700
of the country and moved it off
shore in some funny way. And

1350
01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:28,410
depends on how you've
interpreted there's two

1351
01:17:28,410 --> 01:17:30,870
interpretations. One says this
is a horrible thing that that

1352
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:34,770
happened, because essentially,
it gives rights, American

1353
01:17:34,770 --> 01:17:40,140
citizen rights outside of the
country, to prisoners, but not

1354
01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:41,730
necessarily citizens,

1355
01:17:42,750 --> 01:17:45,600
but isn't going to learn them
obey just like an embassy isn't

1356
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,030
new. Because if you go to an
embassy in any foreign country,

1357
01:17:48,030 --> 01:17:48,240
that

1358
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:52,800
is not an embassy. Yeah, but
it's not an embassy. territory.

1359
01:17:52,830 --> 01:17:58,110
Right. Okay. And, but it's
considered on it's theirs. It's

1360
01:17:58,110 --> 01:18:01,470
a sketchy place, because it's,
you know, really part of Cuba,

1361
01:18:01,470 --> 01:18:04,260
and it was part of some
agreement, and it's hard to say

1362
01:18:04,260 --> 01:18:08,310
what its status is, in terms in
terms of US law,

1363
01:18:08,340 --> 01:18:12,840
what is the deal? Right there?
That's, you know, we kind of

1364
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,230
gloss over it now. Guantanamo
Bay, but why the hell do we have

1365
01:18:16,230 --> 01:18:20,820
a prison in Cuba? Can we make it
Texas or Florida? Or why does

1366
01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:21,360
have to be?

1367
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,350
Then you'd have then you would?
Well, that's the reason because

1368
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:27,990
then you would have a
sovereignty issue. I mean, you

1369
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:32,610
would have US law apply. This is
essentially a military base,

1370
01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:35,910
like say it would be one in
Germany. So you have a military

1371
01:18:35,940 --> 01:18:42,030
base in Germany. And and you put
somebody in the brig. That is a

1372
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:47,100
German, right? Does he have
American citizens rights to all

1373
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:50,670
to due process? When he's not an
American? He's not in America.

1374
01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:56,220
He's in a germ. He's in a, in a
military base prison in Germany.

1375
01:18:56,310 --> 01:19:00,240
Right. And so that's what
they've said, Yeah, he did it.

1376
01:19:00,270 --> 01:19:03,510
So this has become a real
problem. Mainly because they

1377
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:07,470
think it's a slippery slope of,
you know, you know, just it just

1378
01:19:07,500 --> 01:19:12,120
could be it. The total
resolution of it is yet to be

1379
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:17,130
determined. But it's, it seemed
to be a setback, because Bush

1380
01:19:17,130 --> 01:19:19,530
didn't want this because it's
going to complicate matters. And

1381
01:19:19,530 --> 01:19:25,380
so, and it was just a straight
party vote. The Liberals on the

1382
01:19:25,380 --> 01:19:29,250
court voted for it and the
Conservatives voted against it.

1383
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,230
And the weird thing was, is that
the votes against it required a

1384
01:19:34,230 --> 01:19:38,070
number of different dissensions.
It wasn't not just one there was

1385
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:41,130
I think, at least two or three
of different interpretations of

1386
01:19:41,130 --> 01:19:45,540
why it's bad why it shouldn't go
this way. So that's I that's the

1387
01:19:45,540 --> 01:19:47,640
best I can explain it. The only
reason I can even explain it

1388
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,850
that well is because I was
watching night, you know, the

1389
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,180
one of the PBS shows that had
two people arguing both sides of

1390
01:19:54,180 --> 01:19:54,360
it.

1391
01:19:55,110 --> 01:20:01,590
So the big thing in the UK this
week, was that a law was passed,

1392
01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:05,400
which has been a huge discussion
point for months, maybe even

1393
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,940
longer than that. extending the
period, the government can hold

1394
01:20:08,940 --> 01:20:16,260
you captive incarcerate you,
without process from 28 days to

1395
01:20:16,260 --> 01:20:20,850
42 days under the anti terrorism
laws in the United Kingdom.

1396
01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:27,240
Which 42 days is quite a long
time to go without, without due

1397
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,990
process.

1398
01:20:28,980 --> 01:20:33,090
took really long time. I mean,
it's like, you know, month and a

1399
01:20:33,090 --> 01:20:34,740
half of just sitting on your
ass.

1400
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,950
Yeah. And, you know, there's all
kinds of stuff,

1401
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,320
it seems to me as if you got
somebody in jail, you should

1402
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:41,340
have a reason for it.

1403
01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:43,620
Yeah, well, that would be the
argument.

1404
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,960
Let's just kind of incarcerate
people randomly, what you could

1405
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,600
do under these circumstances,
you grab somebody you don't like

1406
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,420
them, which I always think is do
what you have. You know, I

1407
01:20:54,420 --> 01:20:56,310
always think there's a lot of
this is going to be eventually

1408
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:59,550
politically motivated, you get
some desperate, you know,

1409
01:20:59,550 --> 01:21:01,950
running things. Okay. Well,
there's one of my critics, it's,

1410
01:21:02,250 --> 01:21:05,310
we got 30 days for the election,
throw him in jail for 45 days,

1411
01:21:05,310 --> 01:21:08,250
right? Or you got some non
likeable guy, like, let me see,

1412
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,000
oh, Adam curry exam. Just fuck
with this guy. Let's just call

1413
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,640
him a terrorist or the suspect
and will throw me in the brig

1414
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:21,720
for 42 days. Yeah, it would
certainly shut me up. It would

1415
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:27,300
be okay. My wife is so worried
about this. John, I can't tell

1416
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:27,570
you

1417
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:29,760
because he, he's worried that
they're gonna throw you in jail

1418
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,890
for 42 days because you're a
loudmouth note

1419
01:21:31,890 --> 01:21:34,650
she thinks she's afraid they're
gonna throw me in jail, sabotage

1420
01:21:34,650 --> 01:21:38,160
my aeroplane, you know, sick
that which of course, they've

1421
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:43,560
done consistently trying screw
me for no taxes. It this is my

1422
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:48,000
life, the tax thing I've been
investigated eight, nine times

1423
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,500
in my life in my professional
career. It's, it's, it's crazy.

1424
01:21:53,190 --> 01:21:55,920
It's a problem with with, I
mean, the aeroplane thing

1425
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,500
bothers me too, after having
read The Confessions of an

1426
01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:01,560
economic hitman, because that's
a methodology they seem to like

1427
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:08,010
to use every day are they? But
the point is, is that for the

1428
01:22:08,010 --> 01:22:11,640
most part, I think your wife
should be assured that you're

1429
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:18,540
really part of the machine that
they need. You're not really a

1430
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:24,660
force that makes things not
work, or that you're not a

1431
01:22:24,660 --> 01:22:27,570
wrench that's been thrown in the
works. I mean, I hate to tell

1432
01:22:27,570 --> 01:22:30,690
you this. No, no. And I
understand what you're actually

1433
01:22:30,690 --> 01:22:33,750
a Mecca, you're part of the part
of the system, I have to say

1434
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:36,660
that probably am two, that
actually keeps the thing you

1435
01:22:36,660 --> 01:22:40,290
know, we bring up these, these,
these, these criticisms. But

1436
01:22:40,290 --> 01:22:44,250
they're not like the same thing
as plotting to overthrow the

1437
01:22:44,250 --> 01:22:48,180
government or doing something
really wacky, which is dangerous

1438
01:22:48,180 --> 01:22:51,810
to the status quo. We're not
dangerous, I mean, is in any

1439
01:22:51,810 --> 01:22:55,320
way. And in fact, we're probably
laughable to some of these guys

1440
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,280
if they ever listened to the
show. And so I would, I tend to

1441
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,950
think your wife's fears are
unfounded, not that somebody in

1442
01:23:01,950 --> 01:23:04,860
the government might not want to
screw with you in terms of like,

1443
01:23:04,860 --> 01:23:07,800
investigating you for your
taxes, because you're, you know,

1444
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:09,210
you live the high life.

1445
01:23:10,290 --> 01:23:13,110
Well, now, that's someone you're

1446
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:16,080
always flying back and forth,
and back and forth. And you

1447
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,080
always flying back and forth,
you must be transporting money.

1448
01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:19,800
It must

1449
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,760
be let's check this guy. But
what you said there is, in a

1450
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,030
way, comforting, and in a way
extremely disappointing, of

1451
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:29,700
course. And I hope that one day,
because I think I'm finally

1452
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:32,280
starting to find my calling in
life, John, I hate to say it,

1453
01:23:32,610 --> 01:23:35,970
but I'm really, you know,
clearly I have enough time on my

1454
01:23:35,970 --> 01:23:39,240
hands to, you know, to download
shit and look at it, and I'm

1455
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,640
really interested in it. And I'm
interested in passing on this

1456
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,760
information to other people. So
yeah, I don't think I'm not like

1457
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,510
a I'm like a monkey wrench that
I throw into the machine. But

1458
01:23:48,510 --> 01:23:52,710
I'm more like a guy who has a
pot of water and everyone's

1459
01:23:52,710 --> 01:23:55,230
sitting in it. And I'm just
turning up the heat very slowly

1460
01:23:55,230 --> 01:23:57,540
and other people start start to
turn up the heat and maybe one

1461
01:23:57,540 --> 01:23:59,610
day it'll come to a boil and
maybe something will happen I

1462
01:23:59,610 --> 01:24:00,720
really hope so this

1463
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:05,610
this is this is your wish a Ron
Paul type of guy. You know,

1464
01:24:05,610 --> 01:24:09,240
you're kind of an annoyance to
some people because you point

1465
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,950
stuff out. But that's it. You're
an annoyance is what you are in

1466
01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:16,230
this this is that's not worth
dealing with. I mean, you know,

1467
01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:18,480
the the annoyances are
necessary. They're good. They're

1468
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:19,500
part of the mechanism.

1469
01:24:19,770 --> 01:24:22,050
Well, maybe I'll strike on
something one of these days and

1470
01:24:22,050 --> 01:24:23,760
become more than you.

1471
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,190
I'm not seeing it,

1472
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,410
buddy. I really appreciate

1473
01:24:29,430 --> 01:24:31,140
this is not gonna happen. Yeah,
but it's

1474
01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:33,660
someone's got to say something.
You know, I can't just you can

1475
01:24:33,660 --> 01:24:37,320
say all you want in fact is that
the mechanisms long sense

1476
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,650
realise that saying things
unless you're really good at it.

1477
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,350
Not that you're not but I'm
talking about when they're in a

1478
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:48,450
Lenin Leninist style or Trotsky
type of thing, which doesn't

1479
01:24:48,450 --> 01:24:51,570
work wouldn't work anymore. I
don't know what the mechanism is

1480
01:24:51,570 --> 01:24:54,930
to get people riled up. I mean,
let's face it, the public has

1481
01:24:54,930 --> 01:24:59,580
become extremely passive. And
and and you're just, you know,

1482
01:24:59,580 --> 01:25:03,540
it's just The piston in the wind
with some of this stuff and you

1483
01:25:03,570 --> 01:25:04,320
no matter how good

1484
01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:07,620
your information Yeah, right
now, first of all, yes, you're

1485
01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:10,710
probably right. But I'm not
going to accept that as a reason

1486
01:25:10,710 --> 01:25:13,650
not to continue. I'm not that
you're saying that. But, you

1487
01:25:13,650 --> 01:25:16,920
know, I do see that every single
day, there's another person who

1488
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,110
will send me an email and say,
you know, dude, thanks, you open

1489
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:21,240
up my eyes. At least I'm
thinking a little bit about this

1490
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:26,790
stuff now. And maybe, maybe one
day, we'll we'll be able to get

1491
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:30,090
like this European Union thing.
I truly believe that that

1492
01:25:30,090 --> 01:25:32,700
citizens around the world are
smarter than the old fashioned

1493
01:25:32,700 --> 01:25:35,430
guys in Brussels, as we, as we
discussed are the old fashioned

1494
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:38,010
way of doing things. And they're
saying, you know, fuck, no,

1495
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,260
we're not going to do that. We
don't understand what it is. So

1496
01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:43,320
Screw it. And I think that
people are awakening, not enough

1497
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:44,670
of them. But if we keep

1498
01:25:44,700 --> 01:25:47,430
the Irish the Irish woke up,
even though they don't listen to

1499
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:48,720
our show. The Irish didn't

1500
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,980
wake up the the Irish. Well,
they are suspicious. You know,

1501
01:25:52,980 --> 01:25:56,370
they're like, Wait, this just
smells bad. But because of big

1502
01:25:56,370 --> 01:26:00,420
internet campaigns, and there's
been a tonne of them online a

1503
01:26:00,420 --> 01:26:05,430
tonne of online action, telling
people to say no, and that is

1504
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:07,770
working. I think you got to
believe that some of that is

1505
01:26:07,770 --> 01:26:08,580
spilling over.

1506
01:26:09,180 --> 01:26:13,680
Yeah, well, no, I'm not saying
is completely a waste of time.

1507
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:16,440
Made me feel so fucking
worthless.

1508
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:22,440
I'm just I'm just saying it's a
lot of it is. There's a wheel

1509
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:25,470
spinning mechanism involved in
most of this kind of

1510
01:26:25,470 --> 01:26:26,280
complaining.

1511
01:26:28,260 --> 01:26:32,940
I'm not complaining. I'm just
saying pointing out anyway, go

1512
01:26:32,940 --> 01:26:37,200
Europe. Go Holland. You guys
will kick ass in the finals.

1513
01:26:37,410 --> 01:26:39,960
to It is what it always boils
down to this is where they know

1514
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:40,680
where they got. Yeah,

1515
01:26:40,740 --> 01:26:42,810
that's all people care about is
football.

1516
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:47,970
I think that's true. I owe at
least over there over here

1517
01:26:47,970 --> 01:26:50,010
actually over here too. Except
it's a different kind of

1518
01:26:50,010 --> 01:26:52,410
football. But then when the
football season or football,

1519
01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:55,530
American football starts. That's
all people care about as

1520
01:26:55,530 --> 01:26:57,960
although I have to say the Y
generation the younger kids

1521
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,210
coming up don't care at all
about it. I think there's gonna

1522
01:27:00,210 --> 01:27:05,400
be a huge problem. Yeah, I
think, go ahead. I think there's

1523
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,340
gonna be a drop off in the
interest in professional sports.

1524
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,210
Somewhere along the line is
going to be in the next 10 or 20

1525
01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:14,670
years and it's going to be
dramatic, because I think

1526
01:27:14,850 --> 01:27:17,430
we're gonna see it first. The
first time we're gonna see it is

1527
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:20,790
with the Olympics, the Olympics.
I predict we'll have nowhere

1528
01:27:20,790 --> 01:27:24,720
near the viewership. Despite the
coverage nowhere near the

1529
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,470
viewership that it's enjoyed in
the past. I don't think people

1530
01:27:28,470 --> 01:27:29,220
care anymore.

1531
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,760
Well, there's one other reason
for that, of course, China.

1532
01:27:33,630 --> 01:27:36,420
Well, no, you're gonna have the
camera up in the stadium and

1533
01:27:36,420 --> 01:27:39,090
then they're gonna they won't be
able to get through the smog

1534
01:27:39,180 --> 01:27:42,990
with the zoom lens. So it's all
gonna have to be done with

1535
01:27:42,990 --> 01:27:46,890
handhelds and nobody can run
that fast. So I mean, it's gonna

1536
01:27:46,890 --> 01:27:48,120
be you know, tough what are

1537
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,200
the Romans used to say? Give the
people bread and games or what

1538
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:52,860
is the saying?

1539
01:27:53,250 --> 01:27:57,120
Something like that? Yeah, games
they love games. You know every

1540
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,370
time by the way, I keep my point
is this lesson we're gonna say

1541
01:27:59,370 --> 01:28:01,560
but they keep pointing this out
when you see these reports

1542
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,110
coming in from China where they
correspondents talking about the

1543
01:28:04,110 --> 01:28:08,520
Olympics. Just look behind him
and look and not see anything.

1544
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,860
It's just like these guys in a
smoke storm.

1545
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,970
everybody we're here at the
Olympics at the eye in the sky

1546
01:28:14,970 --> 01:28:18,750
at the Beijing Olympic Stadium
and well, we see absolutely

1547
01:28:19,020 --> 01:28:19,830
nothing

1548
01:28:23,250 --> 01:28:25,890
you know, the Chinese DGA, and
they're supposed to clear it up

1549
01:28:25,890 --> 01:28:27,660
by shutting down all the
factories and everything. I

1550
01:28:27,660 --> 01:28:29,310
don't know if that's gonna help
because they're gonna have to

1551
01:28:29,460 --> 01:28:33,150
get they're gonna have to shut
down the factories that are east

1552
01:28:33,150 --> 01:28:36,000
of Beijing and there's too many
of them mostly guys won't shut

1553
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,150
down anyway, then they're gonna
have to shut down the cars and

1554
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:42,600
all the freeways of the town is
crawling with you know, it's

1555
01:28:42,630 --> 01:28:47,850
bumper to bumper is and it's got
a bowl like effect to the to

1556
01:28:47,850 --> 01:28:50,430
keep the cars out in town. I
mean, I don't know how they're

1557
01:28:50,430 --> 01:28:51,120
gonna do it.

1558
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,250
Well, John, no matter what, no
matter if it makes no

1559
01:28:56,250 --> 01:28:59,490
difference. I enjoy doing this
with you every week.

1560
01:29:00,930 --> 01:29:02,100
It's a good show.

1561
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:05,940
And maybe one day we can make
some money off of these people.

1562
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:11,790
That's the worst thing you could
ever say. I can sigh You

1563
01:29:11,790 --> 01:29:15,630
know, they know they know that
they feel guilty. Listen to this

1564
01:29:15,630 --> 01:29:17,250
show, knowing that we're dying
here.

1565
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:20,520
Yeah, we're dying. Excuse me. I
just stepped out of my own

1566
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:25,830
plane. Hold on a second. I'm
hurting so bad. Oh, boy. Oh, he

1567
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:28,320
might get a tax problem. Yeah,
people don't give a shit about

1568
01:29:28,350 --> 01:29:32,700
oh, by the way, Monday. I think
Monday big news from me. VO Be

1569
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:37,620
on the lookout for it. And I
will I'm not allowed to say why

1570
01:29:37,620 --> 01:29:39,420
you know what it is? I'm not
allowed to say what?

1571
01:29:40,890 --> 01:29:42,870
Good teaser. Yeah. Cool.

1572
01:29:43,499 --> 01:29:45,299
All right. All right. What's
coming up this week for you,

1573
01:29:45,299 --> 01:29:45,659
John.

1574
01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:50,010
I'm gonna be around all week.
There's an AMD meeting I'm

1575
01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:53,250
having because I, you know, have
just my penance for writing a

1576
01:29:53,250 --> 01:29:57,240
nasty article. So I have to like
listen to the lectures and

1577
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,280
that's on Monday and then the
rest of the week I'm thinking I

1578
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,670
may go off to The auction will
probably be around a whole week.

1579
01:30:02,730 --> 01:30:05,220
I probably just be doing
nothing. I gotta clean up my

1580
01:30:05,220 --> 01:30:05,760
office.

1581
01:30:07,770 --> 01:30:11,910
Yeah, I've heard you say that
about for two years now. I think

1582
01:30:12,210 --> 01:30:17,190
it's pathetic. Well, I think I'm
coming out. Maybe for Fourth of

1583
01:30:17,190 --> 01:30:18,420
July. What are you doing?

1584
01:30:19,020 --> 01:30:22,170
I'm going up north are Fourth of
July shit. Crap.

1585
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,810
I gotta find a good hang for
Fourth of July. We have

1586
01:30:24,810 --> 01:30:29,490
to be at the we're doing the
Fourth of July parade. Our deli

1587
01:30:29,490 --> 01:30:34,050
is gassed to be in the Fourth of
July parade. We one person is

1588
01:30:34,050 --> 01:30:36,900
going to be wearing a pig
costume and then another one a

1589
01:30:36,900 --> 01:30:39,780
chicken. You know for chicken
sandwich.

1590
01:30:41,220 --> 01:30:42,390
Okay.

1591
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:47,010
So you won't see me.

1592
01:30:47,700 --> 01:30:49,980
All right, then I'll have to
replan my trip.

1593
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:53,790
I guess that's it.

1594
01:30:54,300 --> 01:30:56,670
All right, coming to you from
the curry man or the United

1595
01:30:56,670 --> 01:30:58,050
Kingdom. Hi, I'm Adam curry.

1596
01:30:59,010 --> 01:31:03,090
And from foggy Northern
California. I'm John C. Dvorak.

1597
01:31:03,090 --> 01:31:03,180
I'll

1598
01:31:03,180 --> 01:31:06,030
talk to you again next week
right here on no agenda.