1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,350 From coast to coast and around the world, we're bad. We're 2 00:00:04,350 --> 00:00:08,460 nationwide but we have absolutely no agenda once again 3 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:13,740 for you this week, coming to you from a sun soaked United Kingdom 4 00:00:13,740 --> 00:00:16,920 where it's been 80 degrees today in the curry manner. I'm Adam 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,370 curry. 6 00:00:18,090 --> 00:00:20,520 And I'm John C. Dvorak up here in northern California where it 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,760 looks like it's going to be at today. Sharon I tell you go 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,430 so well. What do you think I was talking Celsius will be rather 9 00:00:29,430 --> 00:00:34,350 hot. Welcome back. Welcome home. John. Thanks. I followed. 10 00:00:34,770 --> 00:00:38,850 followed your trip to Korea. You were twittering here and there 11 00:00:38,850 --> 00:00:42,720 and I heard some some interesting reports on on tech 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:50,160 five. And I'm sure you got lots to talk about. Now. Wouldn't 13 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:54,930 that be like yeah, I got the slideshow though. Uncle John, 14 00:00:54,930 --> 00:00:57,240 and he's gonna Did you have an uncle like that? I had an uncle 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Stanley. And he would do slideshows, where the family 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,930 gatherings? Oh, my God. I was like, and here we all did great 17 00:01:03,930 --> 00:01:10,350 at the Great Wall of China. I just fantastic. You had a good 18 00:01:10,350 --> 00:01:12,330 time, though. Yeah, I 19 00:01:12,330 --> 00:01:18,390 did. I I had, actually, one of the things I could get 20 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:20,340 accomplished quite a bit. I met a lot of people I would have 21 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:26,250 normally met and got to hang out. And it's pretty good. 22 00:01:26,790 --> 00:01:29,430 Yeah, this, this was a conference. Were you attending? 23 00:01:29,430 --> 00:01:32,520 Or were you speaking at the conference? Was a moderator at 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,630 a panel. Okay. 25 00:01:33,660 --> 00:01:37,110 Is that me? Are you feeding back? I don't know. It sounds 26 00:01:37,110 --> 00:01:38,010 like you actually. 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,100 Okay, well, let me turn this thing down. There we go. Well, 28 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:41,340 maybe 29 00:01:41,340 --> 00:01:44,820 I'm a little loud too. Man. It is so hot here. It is 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,810 unbelievably busy. It has been just absolutely beautiful all 31 00:01:48,810 --> 00:01:49,260 week. 32 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:54,540 Well, I don't know what it was like here since I was in Korea, 33 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:57,240 actually in Korea was you know the weird thing about Korea. 34 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:59,880 This is an interesting. First thing you do you get up in the 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,000 morning. And it is so smoggy. 36 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:07,530 Really? Yeah. It's from China, like Los Angeles, like smog. 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,280 No, it's it's really grimy looking. It's like maybe Los 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,900 Angeles smog in the 60s. 39 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:15,060 But that's floating in from China. Is that what you're 40 00:02:15,060 --> 00:02:16,920 saying? Yeah, wow. 41 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:19,770 Yeah, no, China. If you look this up, there's there's some 42 00:02:19,770 --> 00:02:23,550 stuff you can look at. There's some satellite imagery of the 43 00:02:23,550 --> 00:02:28,860 smog coming off the smoke and crap coming off of China. You 44 00:02:28,890 --> 00:02:32,910 dig him up on Google, you'll be stunned because this stuff 45 00:02:32,910 --> 00:02:35,850 floats up halfway to the Pacific and sometimes on certain 46 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:40,680 occasions it gets as far as California really, is a mess. 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,930 It's even you've never seen anything like it. It's just like 48 00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:47,280 this big glob of goo coming out of China. And it comes all the 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,330 way across the ocean and it just nails Korea Korea. 50 00:02:51,390 --> 00:02:53,700 Now I realised that was such an incredible dork. I think I 51 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:56,910 twittered you about it that I'm so stupid and you know, my uncle 52 00:02:56,910 --> 00:03:00,030 was ambassador to North Korea I mean, he's president of the of 53 00:03:00,030 --> 00:03:02,880 the Korea Society. He definitely could have hooked you up with 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,700 something a little more interesting than whatever you 55 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:11,070 were doing. North Korea Yeah, no South Korea I'm sorry. South 56 00:03:11,070 --> 00:03:14,850 Korea North Korea that's done yeah, you oh, gee, I'm sorry. I 57 00:03:14,850 --> 00:03:18,870 completely completely forgot it's so stupid Ambassador Greg 58 00:03:18,870 --> 00:03:20,850 they still call him that. I mean, that could have been your 59 00:03:20,850 --> 00:03:22,920 passport dude. I missed that one 60 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:24,360 but I'll get back there. 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,350 Yeah, I'm sorry. 62 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:31,380 Well, it's okay. I was actually pretty busy. But the I did get 63 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:34,620 some I didn't manage to get downtown to the kind of it's a 64 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:38,370 touristy area of work near the one of the bases which is called 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,600 E to one and they have all these tailors and they know these so I 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,410 got some you know a couple I got a suit and linen jacket tailor 67 00:03:46,410 --> 00:03:54,030 made and a few shirts nice and the price has gone up since the 68 00:03:54,030 --> 00:03:57,240 last time I was in town but still pretty much the same and I 69 00:03:57,540 --> 00:04:00,660 and I've always been convinced that the whole I don't know for 70 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:05,370 sure that almost all the tailors in the not necessarily for the 71 00:04:05,370 --> 00:04:08,640 suits and jackets but for the definitely for the shirts all go 72 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,580 through the same factory someplace in Korea because it 73 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:13,920 come back if you bought from three different vendors, you're 74 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:21,000 gonna get the packages packaging comes back it's identical but 75 00:04:21,150 --> 00:04:23,220 anyway, you can do it with anyone one of the things I've 76 00:04:23,220 --> 00:04:26,310 been working on for the past 20 years is kind of like my own 77 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:28,530 shirt. And 78 00:04:29,730 --> 00:04:31,440 what do you mean your own shirt to? 79 00:04:31,470 --> 00:04:34,980 Well, I mean, this is more than just a custom shirt. These these 80 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:36,210 guys. You can have 81 00:04:36,330 --> 00:04:39,000 a rack autograph model is that what you're going to shoot at? 82 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:39,120 You 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,050 know I should probably market the shirt. It's got for example 84 00:04:43,050 --> 00:04:45,960 the pockets I use I have two pockets that have buttons on a 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,650 man that pockets are the size just the right sighs to hold a 86 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:59,490 CD jewel case. Totally slip a jewel case into your shirt 87 00:04:59,490 --> 00:04:59,970 pocket. 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,200 You're awesome dude. Come on optical disk. Awesome. 89 00:05:09,660 --> 00:05:14,430 And they also have the the Perry Ellis pleats. 90 00:05:14,460 --> 00:05:16,590 Oh my goodness you don't wear that do Yeah. 91 00:05:17,310 --> 00:05:21,660 Yeah. Perry Ellis has these pleats in the shoulders. And 92 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:26,670 which they patented by the way, for a while the one of the big 93 00:05:26,670 --> 00:05:29,070 stores in New York had their own branded shirts, and they put 94 00:05:29,070 --> 00:05:31,560 that pleat in there and they got sued, and they had to take it 95 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,330 out. But, you know, these are custom shirts. So you know, put 96 00:05:36,330 --> 00:05:39,480 the bleeding. And anyway, there's other aspects to it. I 97 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,760 have a double stitching here and there and things like that. 98 00:05:41,790 --> 00:05:44,010 But a trip like that I'm sure that there's a whole bunch of 99 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:46,170 things that happened and you're probably going to process that 100 00:05:46,170 --> 00:05:48,030 we're going to hear about it over the next couple of weeks 101 00:05:48,030 --> 00:05:51,690 probably is that just added to your arsenal of stuff that your 102 00:05:51,690 --> 00:05:55,980 baggage that you carry with you. crackpot stories? Exactly. I 103 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:58,470 love the one about Bill Gates reinventing history that he 104 00:05:58,470 --> 00:06:00,990 invented the personal computer. I thought that was 105 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:04,830 unbelievable. We had a table full of people that was you 106 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:07,920 know, they put us so there was like a table of English speaking 107 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,150 people. 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,250 The white the white guys, 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,470 right? That's a little ghetto. Yeah. And so they when he went 110 00:06:16,470 --> 00:06:19,800 into this thing about how it was unbelievable, because I mean, it 111 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,130 was just astonishing. He starts talking about how he saw a 112 00:06:23,130 --> 00:06:27,120 microprocessor. And as soon as he saw it, he realised that it 113 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,760 was going to just get more and more powerful how he realised 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,480 this, I don't know, it was gonna get more and more powerful, and 115 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,280 it was going to need software. And that's and that insight of 116 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:42,960 his his and his what led to the, to the PC revolution. 117 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:47,550 Yeah. Meanwhile, the real story as he was the least away he's 118 00:06:47,550 --> 00:06:51,600 been telling you for the last 40 years, is that, you know, he was 119 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,850 at Harvard with his buddies. And he saw the picture of the Altair 120 00:06:56,850 --> 00:07:00,420 on the Popular Electronics and did a little research and 121 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,670 realised they needed a programming language. And so 122 00:07:02,670 --> 00:07:06,330 then they recoated somebody else's basic somebody claims 123 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:09,450 that was Dartmouth basic. Some people say it was a Dec 10, 124 00:07:09,450 --> 00:07:14,070 basic, but they just kind of recoated it for this for the 125 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:20,790 Altair and then went down to New Mexico and sold it to the guy 126 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:24,360 who was running that company, but Bill Roberts or Ed Roberts, 127 00:07:24,750 --> 00:07:27,810 and David Bunnell, I think was done there as a time to and he 128 00:07:27,810 --> 00:07:30,900 actually probably knows the story better. And how does that 129 00:07:30,930 --> 00:07:33,300 go? How do you go from that story to I saw the 130 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:37,290 microprocessor, I saw the future. And my insight is what 131 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:41,550 led to the PC revolution. It's just astonishing to me. 132 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:46,680 Well, you know, maybe, maybe someone told the story that way. 133 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,590 And then, you know, he retold it once or twice, you know, the 134 00:07:49,590 --> 00:07:54,510 brain can do amazing things. Yes. I guess I can show him how 135 00:07:54,510 --> 00:07:57,600 to edit his wiki page. That's anyhow. 136 00:07:58,110 --> 00:08:00,930 Hey, talking about Wiki pages. So I'm gonna have digital one of 137 00:08:00,930 --> 00:08:02,640 the people down there as Gina Smith. 138 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:06,660 I went out, wasn't she early at CNET didn't? Didn't we do that 139 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:09,480 pilot with her as well? Wasn't Gina Smith, there was she? Yeah, 140 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:09,720 she 141 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,350 was there. She was at CNET. She went on, you know, eventually to 142 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:15,060 ABC. Now she's a writer. She's 143 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:16,590 what does she do her book writing? 144 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:19,170 Well, she's book writing, she did a book on the genome. And 145 00:08:19,170 --> 00:08:23,160 she's dead. She's got ever heard of wahat. I didn't think you 146 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,920 know much of doing that as a topic either. But she did the 147 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Iwase book, and it turns out to be a best seller. And so she's 148 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,810 doing great. And I'm probably going to do a book with her now 149 00:08:33,870 --> 00:08:38,580 where she lives. She's in the Bay Area. Anyway, she says hi. 150 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:42,300 Because she tells me this. I didn't know. She's the one who 151 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:45,510 put up your original Wikipedia is posting. 152 00:08:46,620 --> 00:08:49,530 Oh, really? I didn't know that. Yeah, you didn't know that. Did 153 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:51,180 you know hmm. 154 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:55,440 And she's been trying to keep it, trying to dog it for you in 155 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,130 the back. Covering your cheese covered for you, 156 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,980 that is so incredibly nice. You know, I never ever look at it. 157 00:09:01,980 --> 00:09:04,260 In fact, I make a policy of pretty much not looking at 158 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:07,440 Wikipedia at all. Because, you know, I look at my own page. I 159 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,960 know it's full of shit. So unless it's really something 160 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,200 general, I'm just gonna think it's probably there's a 161 00:09:13,230 --> 00:09:17,580 likelihood that it's a version of the truth. But it's really 162 00:09:17,580 --> 00:09:21,900 nice to know that someone's on my side. My age, that's very 163 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:25,050 cool. I have to take a look at it. Because, you know, it's so 164 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:25,980 so wrong. 165 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,360 It really is a centre give her a centre note. 166 00:09:30,390 --> 00:09:32,820 And it's funny because my wife now is running into you know, 167 00:09:32,820 --> 00:09:36,450 she's, she's from the Bakelite phone era. And in fact, it was 168 00:09:36,450 --> 00:09:40,470 quite an accomplishment for me to really sit her down and walk 169 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:43,290 her through a menuing structure like on her mobile phone she 170 00:09:43,290 --> 00:09:46,140 had, she's just not from that era and has never had to deal 171 00:09:46,140 --> 00:09:48,600 with it and would, you know, essentially dial numbers 172 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,720 manually and wouldn't even use the address book and then once 173 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,090 she really got into it, she she's, you know, she really 174 00:09:54,090 --> 00:09:56,370 loved it. Now, of course, there's a lot of media exposure 175 00:09:56,370 --> 00:09:59,580 for her and although she uses her iMac and she loves it, and 176 00:09:59,580 --> 00:10:02,880 she uses it all The time you know, for web browsing and email 177 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,690 and some of the basic things. Now she's having to deal with, 178 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,460 you know, people masquerading as her on a Dutch social networking 179 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:16,350 site called hives, which is, you know, like a Facebook type 180 00:10:16,350 --> 00:10:21,030 thing, Bebo, whatever. And, and it's just amazing. She said, 181 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:23,130 Well, how can someone do that? Why did they do that? Why are 182 00:10:23,130 --> 00:10:25,170 they trying to be like me? And then, you know, we got into 183 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:28,380 Wikipedia, and she said, Wait a minute. So if you can't actually 184 00:10:28,380 --> 00:10:31,800 write or could change things on your own page, I'm like, No, you 185 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,480 can't do that. And she's like, Huh? It's, it's quite alien, we 186 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,560 take it kind of for granted. 187 00:10:38,070 --> 00:10:42,330 It's very a quite it's not the word stupid is the word. But, 188 00:10:42,750 --> 00:10:45,810 and this brings me to something I saw in the Financial Times. 189 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,970 yesterday. It was it was a editorial piece. But basically, 190 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:53,700 it was saying, you know, when, when Bill Clinton said, trying 191 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:57,960 to censor the Internet and the cyberspace to China, he said his 192 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,540 quote was something like, that's like trying to nail jello to the 193 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:04,200 wall. I think it was a famous quote of his. And it turns out 194 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,320 that yes, there is a great firewall of China except exactly 195 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,820 the opposite has happened. There's a lot of anti Western 196 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:17,490 and anti west or Western hate basically, particularly if you 197 00:11:17,490 --> 00:11:20,940 look at the cutter for the French grocery store, because 198 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:24,870 they're pro Tibet. Now all they have these angry Chinese men and 199 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:30,750 women who are, you know, banning the stores and roughing up and 200 00:11:30,780 --> 00:11:36,840 this is a this is a fact that we've been meaning to i You, me 201 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,860 more than you, you're excited to hear. You mentioned the fact 202 00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:46,170 that the two of us were standing outside the offices of what is 203 00:11:46,170 --> 00:11:47,130 now media, 204 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,550 right? That's right during the during the torch protest during 205 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:50,640 the 206 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,730 torch protests, and there was a whole bunch of pro Chinese 207 00:11:54,570 --> 00:11:57,600 people protesting what they had Chinese face from China, and 208 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,390 they were going from place to place and we we ran into one guy 209 00:12:00,390 --> 00:12:02,670 who pulled out his look like an 210 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,550 itinerary and a map Yeah, exact 211 00:12:05,550 --> 00:12:09,030 and a map. And he had a chain of fight from China. He looked like 212 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:13,020 a national. Yep. And he was like, seeing where he had to go 213 00:12:13,020 --> 00:12:18,870 next to do his phoney Baloney, exactly. Pro China thing, but I 214 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:21,150 think Chinese are gonna get busted for this trying to pull 215 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:23,550 this crap, fashion thing 216 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:26,460 happening, John, I really have the feeling just look at reading 217 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:30,060 these reports. And it's kind of bubbling under that. And of 218 00:12:30,060 --> 00:12:32,790 course, immediately, immediately makes me think about how we're 219 00:12:32,790 --> 00:12:36,270 being indoctrinated here. You know, this, basically, you look 220 00:12:36,270 --> 00:12:39,840 at Google News, right? Every news item has been repeated and 221 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,070 copied and republished 1000s of times, whether it's correct or 222 00:12:44,070 --> 00:12:48,360 not. I think the same thing is happening in China. And you 223 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,030 know, maybe the maybe the government is kind of smart 224 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:53,910 about getting nasty word out there and it propagating through 225 00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:56,160 the net, and maybe they are creating their own kind of 226 00:12:56,430 --> 00:13:00,330 online hate culture against us. You know what I mean? 227 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:04,500 be possible. I mean, I all I know is I mean, generally 228 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:08,190 speaking, if you're a Westerner in China, you still get treated 229 00:13:08,190 --> 00:13:11,790 better than a lot of the Chinese. So that we don't know 230 00:13:11,790 --> 00:13:14,130 yet. But, you know, you had to visit it a lot. And you'll 231 00:13:14,130 --> 00:13:16,740 figure it out. After a while when I started, go, I really 232 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:18,210 want to get food at the restaurant. 233 00:13:19,290 --> 00:13:22,500 But there's a name for these angry Chinese young men there's, 234 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:26,160 and it's, you know, every decade or so, there's a new version of 235 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,180 them. And now they're all anti Western and like, 236 00:13:30,420 --> 00:13:32,580 these are the same idiots that were part of the cultural 237 00:13:32,580 --> 00:13:34,170 revolution that Yeah, absolutely. You know, if it 238 00:13:34,170 --> 00:13:37,080 wasn't for Chiang Kai Shek, moving all the antiquities out 239 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,960 of the country, they would have probably trashed the whole 240 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,620 place. 241 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:41,940 Yeah, those guys. 242 00:13:42,420 --> 00:13:46,230 Those guys a lot of them. Yeah, there's lots of them. There's 243 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:47,460 too many of them they're idiots. 244 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:53,070 But, you know, this is kinda it's kind of playing into your 245 00:13:53,070 --> 00:13:56,880 theory that the internet is actually really bad. Bad thing 246 00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:59,280 you're really anti internet John. I know. 247 00:13:59,819 --> 00:14:03,299 I was I don't I don't hate I mean, I just think it could be 248 00:14:03,329 --> 00:14:06,119 Yeah, well, here's the here's the interesting thing happening 249 00:14:06,119 --> 00:14:09,599 in China right now that this is a you know, China still has 250 00:14:09,599 --> 00:14:12,509 issues and that you know, one of the things that nobody This 251 00:14:12,509 --> 00:14:17,369 kills me and people out there who watch the TV reports from 252 00:14:17,369 --> 00:14:20,579 Beijing coming in, you know, pre Olympics. You take a look at 253 00:14:20,579 --> 00:14:24,179 these reports. It's just hilarious. There's a guy just a 254 00:14:24,179 --> 00:14:27,329 reporter on the scene as I was watching one of these the other 255 00:14:27,329 --> 00:14:30,659 day and no, none of these anchors, these these pathetic 256 00:14:30,659 --> 00:14:34,169 anchors that have obviously no powers of observation if they 257 00:14:34,169 --> 00:14:37,139 have a monitor. I'm sure they're looking at it once in a while. 258 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:40,590 They're reading the prompter for the next one. Right? But I mean 259 00:14:40,590 --> 00:14:41,040 when they get 260 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,130 when the correspondent is standing in some place in 261 00:14:44,130 --> 00:14:48,480 Beijing and behind him, you can't see anything because of 262 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,550 the smog and you see a vague bus go by it looks like some from 263 00:14:53,730 --> 00:14:56,040 outer space just barely. You can barely make it out. Looks 264 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,200 like a beautiful morning there in Beijing peep 265 00:15:00,269 --> 00:15:04,079 Nobody says, Is it a little smoggy there that you know, it's 266 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:06,929 just, I mean, every one of these reports I've seen, with no 267 00:15:06,929 --> 00:15:09,509 exceptions, I'm sure there will be, you know, I know when 268 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:11,039 actually even if it's a windy day, 269 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,970 I actually it was, I think it was maybe it was even Gordon 270 00:15:14,970 --> 00:15:19,890 Brown who was in China. And the BBC did a very, very funny bit, 271 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,650 although it was short, but they did a very funny funny bit about 272 00:15:22,650 --> 00:15:24,990 me. So everyone's standing around and literally, you see 273 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:28,080 the smog like wafting through and that they did show it but it 274 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,220 wasn't like, you know, it was so tongue in cheek it was off the 275 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:35,490 cuff that it was almost insulting, but it was so it was 276 00:15:35,490 --> 00:15:40,650 really nasty. Just this shit just wafting through. It's 277 00:15:40,650 --> 00:15:41,430 crazy. So. 278 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,520 So anyway, besides that, but you know, somebody's got to point 279 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,010 this out, because I have yet to see a report from China where, 280 00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:50,610 where it is not just completely, you know, just smoked in. And 281 00:15:50,610 --> 00:15:53,220 now as it were, you know, we get to summer, you know, it's not 282 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:56,820 gonna be any better. But anyway, the real problem going on a 283 00:15:56,820 --> 00:16:00,930 champ my wife pointed this out to me last night was is hoof and 284 00:16:00,930 --> 00:16:07,140 Mouth Disease. There's a form of hoof and mouth disease. It's a 285 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:11,280 form of Coxsackie. Yes. Which I think kids get my 286 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,830 daughter had that is the scariest thing I've ever 287 00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:18,090 witnessed. Were all sudden, all of a sudden, she's crying and 288 00:16:18,090 --> 00:16:21,660 you go to her bed, and there's just this huge flood of blood 289 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:23,850 coming out of her mouth and covering the bed. 290 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,110 We are step mice that had this and he had the same thing as 291 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:35,100 like, your mouth is filled with blisters, and you get your it's 292 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:36,960 a mess. But it only lasts for a couple of days. 293 00:16:36,990 --> 00:16:38,940 Yeah. But it's very frightening for parents. 294 00:16:39,330 --> 00:16:42,990 Yeah, well, it turns out there's one it's called, I think, Ev 71. 295 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:46,260 Or it's got a specific, specific version of the virus, which is 296 00:16:46,260 --> 00:16:49,830 breaking out now in China that is deadly. And they've already 297 00:16:49,830 --> 00:16:55,410 killed 35 kids. And a typical of the Chinese people they don't 298 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:59,310 they've under reported it. So it is now slowly perhaps getting 299 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:02,370 out of control. There's cases in Macau. And they're coming in 300 00:17:02,370 --> 00:17:06,210 from all over the place. And it's and it seems to be deadly 301 00:17:06,210 --> 00:17:09,360 to kids, especially around the age of four. If it's 302 00:17:09,389 --> 00:17:12,719 if it's anything like regular foot and mouth disease or hoof 303 00:17:12,719 --> 00:17:14,879 and mouth, what sometimes they call it that as well, because 304 00:17:14,879 --> 00:17:16,919 I've lived through several versions of that in the 305 00:17:16,919 --> 00:17:21,239 farmlands in Belgium, and and over here as well. It's highly 306 00:17:21,239 --> 00:17:22,019 contagious. 307 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:25,980 Yeah, that's the that's the real promise extremely contagious. 308 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,120 Not good. No. So now what? 309 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,590 Well, though, it's, you know, if it starts getting out of the 310 00:17:34,590 --> 00:17:37,170 country, I mean, what here's what the question is what 311 00:17:37,170 --> 00:17:41,700 happens when the public hits the road when this throng of people 312 00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:45,180 go to the Olympics, and you know, this thing is breaking out 313 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:47,670 all over the place, and it just happens to be the timing might 314 00:17:47,670 --> 00:17:50,100 be just perfect for it to be hitting Beijing in a big way. 315 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:51,360 It's going to be a disaster. 316 00:17:51,390 --> 00:17:54,930 So wait a minute, so is it is it located north now? Is that where 317 00:17:54,930 --> 00:17:55,680 you said it was? 318 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,070 See, here's the rally. So you have to look at that. But here's 319 00:17:59,070 --> 00:18:01,740 the interesting thing about about this particular disease, 320 00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:06,390 especially the deadly one, the adults can get it. And they do 321 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:10,230 get it apparently, by zero symptoms, all you become is just 322 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:16,410 a carrier. Wow. And the way the Chinese have handled these 323 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:19,020 things in the past, you know, we're not very not telling 324 00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:21,750 anybody anything. And then the then the thing that says my wife 325 00:18:21,780 --> 00:18:26,280 makes her concern is that it seems as though America is 326 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,320 already involved in we're sending people over there in 327 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,610 some sort of a panic move. 328 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,140 Really? Yeah. Like the CDC Dustin Hoffman, 329 00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:40,020 kind of thing with the hoods that I know, I'm just telling 330 00:18:40,020 --> 00:18:43,170 you, this is it you if you start looking it up, you can see the 331 00:18:43,170 --> 00:18:47,040 story starting to form and the stories are China all kind of 332 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,740 downplaying it a little bit, but the potential for something like 333 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:51,900 this is pretty high. I did then we had about 334 00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:55,440 30 people dying. I recall that somewhere, but it wasn't a big 335 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:55,980 story. 336 00:18:56,550 --> 00:18:58,590 No, no, but just in fact, it should be 337 00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:03,180 much more important to know if Hillary Clinton is a lesbian or 338 00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:05,250 not. That's the kind of news we're interested in here, John. 339 00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:10,200 I think maybe she's trying to get the lesbian vote, but put 340 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,080 her might put her on the top. I mean, over the top. 341 00:19:15,690 --> 00:19:17,430 So I interrupted you. I'm sorry. 342 00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:20,460 Well, I was saying that I mean, this kind of thing. Now we have 343 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:24,630 like to train and in Canada that was stopped and that and 344 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:31,200 quarantined, and then we have norovirus breakout at Moscone 345 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,230 Centre in San Francisco. I know, the Jabra one conference that 35 346 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:40,530 People got norovirus from something or other. 347 00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:43,350 How come I didn't hear about that? I haven't read one speck 348 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:44,160 of news on that. 349 00:19:44,670 --> 00:19:48,180 It's in on the blog. Check it out. oh.org/blog 350 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:51,780 What a fantastic resource. 351 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,340 So yeah, we actually try to keep up with epidemics. 352 00:19:58,290 --> 00:20:05,010 No I'm a little I'm a little cautious I'm, I'm a believer in 353 00:20:05,010 --> 00:20:07,830 that kind of shit. You know, it does actually spread that 354 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:08,970 actually can happen 355 00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:12,330 well with these crowds I mean, you know, everything has become 356 00:20:12,330 --> 00:20:17,550 like, you know, the stadiums are bigger. The the malls are bigger 357 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:19,500 you know what else is happening more and more crowded, 358 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:22,410 you get like a Java one conference and you got all these 359 00:20:22,410 --> 00:20:24,570 nerds and they're all saying hey man, let me let me see your 360 00:20:24,570 --> 00:20:26,820 iPhone and they're all like touching the same surface the 361 00:20:26,820 --> 00:20:30,270 whole time and they're touching each other's things. And there's 362 00:20:30,270 --> 00:20:33,420 a whole lot of this. I think there's much more touching going 363 00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:37,890 on. Or, you know, touching the same surfaces with all these 364 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,830 geeks been Yeah, bringing us down. 365 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:44,310 Like somebody said on on on I actually twittered that thing 366 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:49,050 about the know about the Norovirus and, and somebody 367 00:20:49,050 --> 00:20:51,660 said, What do you expect from a bunch of grimy unwashed 368 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:52,590 programmers? 369 00:20:53,580 --> 00:20:56,400 Well, that's another thing keyboards man. Oh, that's so I 370 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,010 mean, there's more nastiness on your keyboard than on your 371 00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:00,450 toilet seat as Yes, 372 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,570 we'd like to do is look, if you get your keyboard in the right 373 00:21:03,570 --> 00:21:08,100 light, you just get grossed out. This thing needs 374 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,350 cleaning. It's very nasty. 375 00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:14,580 What is just be a grease getting your grease on it constantly, 376 00:21:14,580 --> 00:21:16,560 you know, dust in the air. It's just horrible. 377 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:18,960 Hey, there's something I'm sure you didn't read about in the US. 378 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:23,100 Big news over here in the UK. You know, we have 4 million 379 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:27,300 cameras in the UK, their civilian society known as the 380 00:21:27,330 --> 00:21:32,010 the United Kingdom. Yeah. Turns out that they're not working 381 00:21:32,010 --> 00:21:35,700 very well, that they're responsible for only 3% of all 382 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:36,780 crime solved. 383 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,890 Yeah, no, we actually got that story. I didn't get the story. 384 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,810 Okay. Yeah. So that story, but that's not as good as the other 385 00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:48,120 story that's developing where there's now becoming a trend to 386 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:49,530 move the cameras. 387 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:52,320 Oh, yeah. That was on the front page of the newspapers here. 388 00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:56,550 Yeah, but that's the speed camera. Right? Yeah. Well, 389 00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:59,280 that's not a trend. It's just one guy did it and put it on the 390 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,900 front of all the papers. It's just we're all 391 00:22:01,710 --> 00:22:04,290 Australia that there was this? There's similar incidents 392 00:22:04,290 --> 00:22:06,060 happening around the world. Yeah. But you know, 393 00:22:06,090 --> 00:22:08,400 so that's not news that's like 394 00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:11,040 it is to me. 395 00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:16,920 I know a guy who did a morning show on the radio in, in 396 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,730 Holland. And he actually, he actually got in trouble, he had 397 00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:23,280 to go to court because he incited his listeners to 398 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:27,390 whenever you know, to basically bring down the man and knock 399 00:22:27,420 --> 00:22:30,810 knock down all of the speed cameras, and people started 400 00:22:30,810 --> 00:22:36,270 doing it. And it turned into quite a national scene. Wow, 401 00:22:36,270 --> 00:22:38,700 that's cool. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, what a lot of 402 00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:41,580 people do now you have these, you can buy these very cheap GPS 403 00:22:41,580 --> 00:22:43,410 units, I think they have them in the States as well. But they're 404 00:22:43,410 --> 00:22:46,500 kind of community based, they've been around for about seven or 405 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,520 eight years. And basically, all it is, is just a little 406 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,930 database. So you connect it to the, to your computer, you know, 407 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,690 once in a while, and it updates the database. But if you see a 408 00:22:57,690 --> 00:23:00,600 speed camera, or if you're, if you're coming up to a speed 409 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,150 camera, it's just a GPS receiver. And so it'll start 410 00:23:03,150 --> 00:23:06,270 flashing, saying speed camera coming, but you have a button on 411 00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:09,870 it. And so if you you can basically tag a new speed 412 00:23:09,870 --> 00:23:13,110 camera, and then that gets uploaded to the community. So 413 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:17,070 people are pretty current on where all these things are. And 414 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,180 you there's really no reason you'd have to hit one unless you 415 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:23,280 of course want to move it and then you speed up. 416 00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:28,470 Well, most of the cameras here are used for traffic light 417 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:29,280 violations. Yeah, 418 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,430 for people hitting going through the red light. But these but 419 00:23:32,430 --> 00:23:35,100 these are actually speed cameras on a stretch of road. In fact, 420 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:39,060 they have a system in Holland, which is unbelievable. There's a 421 00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:43,920 strip or like a sensor. And then there's it's a large section 422 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,620 maybe like 20 miles. And what they do is they detect you when 423 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:53,760 you hit that first that 20 mile strip. And then if you hit the 424 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,800 other end too quickly, then they know exactly how fast you were 425 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,170 going that you were going too fast and then they send you a 426 00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:07,770 ticket so you have to pace yourself in that 20 mile stretch 427 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:10,560 which I just think is outrageous 428 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,780 Well, you know there is a speed law. Yeah. 429 00:24:17,070 --> 00:24:18,570 But it's you know, that's like 430 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:21,960 wow, you know like it you know, if you don't like the fact that 431 00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:25,080 you haven't changed the law make the roads faster making like 432 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,720 Germany. I agree with Germany where there's no speed limit. 433 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:27,810 Well, 434 00:24:27,810 --> 00:24:30,150 the problem there is they've they've got too many cars. 435 00:24:30,180 --> 00:24:33,600 There's this every single morning, every single afternoon. 436 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,080 There's hundreds and hundreds of kilometres of traffic jams. It's 437 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,610 just It's horrible. 438 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,470 We're in Amsterdam, Holland, 439 00:24:41,189 --> 00:24:44,459 and Holland. Yeah. And there's no no escape routes. You can't 440 00:24:44,459 --> 00:24:46,799 get off and drive through villages or anything like that. 441 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:50,099 It's just everyone and you know, the news literally every hour is 442 00:24:50,099 --> 00:24:55,079 at least five sometimes longer five minutes or longer of okay, 443 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,539 here's where all the traffic jams are. It just goes on and on 444 00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:58,499 and on and on and on. 445 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,100 Really Well, we have that problem in Los Angeles. I mean, 446 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:03,990 you can't go from here to there anytime. 447 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:07,980 Yeah, it's about the same problem only in Los Angeles. Why 448 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:10,380 did how many people are there? 30 million? 449 00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:14,550 Well, not quite. But as a lot Yeah. 450 00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:17,430 Holland is only over 1017 451 00:25:18,539 --> 00:25:20,999 Well, the thing is, you know what Los Angeles at least what 452 00:25:20,999 --> 00:25:23,489 you said like what you say is like when they you trying to go 453 00:25:23,489 --> 00:25:27,059 from one end of the area to the other, you can get off the 454 00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:29,819 freeway and take city streets and actually entertain yourself 455 00:25:29,819 --> 00:25:30,179 right. 456 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,210 Now this is actually getting I mean, the only the only highways 457 00:25:33,210 --> 00:25:36,540 in the Netherlands are between the cities. You know, and so you 458 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:38,760 can always get off at some little village, that's not a 459 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,780 problem. But if you want to go into any city, forget about it. 460 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:46,200 But in or out of any city is just horrible. And they have 461 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,380 these rings around the around each city, it just doesn't work. 462 00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:54,150 Well, somebody's got to redesign the system, because it seems to 463 00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:56,820 me to Vimeo people moaning and groaning about energy savings 464 00:25:56,820 --> 00:25:59,070 and all my car gets a million miles per gallon. And I was 465 00:25:59,070 --> 00:26:01,860 gonna use a hybrid. Yeah, we're just sitting there dead in 466 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:04,740 traffic. That would mess with a hybrid that makes a little 467 00:26:04,740 --> 00:26:07,830 sense. Cuz you don't, you know, I like to things with the engine 468 00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:10,560 stops, you might as well just stop your engine run on battery. 469 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,350 Yeah. But then, you know, if it's a hot day like today than 470 00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:15,690 your air, your air conditioner is in work and 471 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,410 Right. Right, so you gotta keep grinding away. So you're just 472 00:26:19,410 --> 00:26:23,100 wasting gas. In fact, in Berkeley, where they have this, 473 00:26:23,820 --> 00:26:26,790 you know, this dis, I don't know what what the point of it is, 474 00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:29,730 but they have to put bike lanes in everywhere. And there's 475 00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:32,670 nobody on these bike lanes, because there's only a few, you 476 00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:36,090 know, people that haven't been killed driving a bike and it's 477 00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:38,790 hills, right. It's a lot of work. Well, there's, there are 478 00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:41,580 hills, there are a lot of hills. But the Djinn the flat area, 479 00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:43,950 which is the main part of the city, there's still a lot of 480 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:46,950 these bike lanes, and nobody's using them. I mean, it's not 481 00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:49,410 like Holland where you know, if there was a bike lane, there's 482 00:26:49,410 --> 00:26:54,630 a, there's 1000s and 1000s of people on bicycles. Yeah. I 483 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:57,060 mean, literally, there's just hundreds and 1000s of people 484 00:26:57,060 --> 00:27:00,060 there on bicycles going up and down. Here. There's like one 485 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:04,590 person every two or three hours, maybe on these bike lanes which 486 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,720 have moved the traffic that would they but they take a lane 487 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,320 away from the cars. And so the cars are all backed up stopped, 488 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:14,250 you know, forming this long line of cars idling and just burning 489 00:27:14,250 --> 00:27:18,960 gas. It's a complete, it's like an ecological disaster. It's 490 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,900 burning more fuel than it would have if you didn't have these 491 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,660 idiotic bike lanes because we had to have a bicycle, we have 492 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:26,940 to encourage it. What are you going to encourage? I mean, it's 493 00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:30,330 too far from point A to point B for people to using bicycles. 494 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,330 And, you know, we have to encourage more bicycle riding. 495 00:27:33,330 --> 00:27:35,340 What about this, you know, the 60 year old lady, you know, 496 00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:38,760 she's not gonna be on a bicycle. Anyway, so the whole thing is 497 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,510 ridiculous. 498 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:45,210 And meanwhile, the price of oil is $126 a barrel? Yeah, I'm 499 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:48,750 still thinking 100 before the end of the year, baby 200 500 00:27:48,780 --> 00:27:52,020 I'm thinking 200 before the end of this year, though, right? 501 00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:55,050 Well, it's gonna be pretty quick, because I think when it 502 00:27:55,050 --> 00:27:56,490 hits 200 is going to reverse. 503 00:27:56,970 --> 00:28:02,010 I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. Although I was looking, someone 504 00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:06,150 sent me a chart. And when it comes to the actual cost of fuel 505 00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:11,610 per gallon, you know, the US is still you know, 111 on the list 506 00:28:11,610 --> 00:28:14,910 of most expensive countries, the UK I think is number three and 507 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:22,140 about eight $8.40 a gallon. So I think it's actually it's, it's 508 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:24,600 probably going to double in price, we'll probably see six or 509 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,170 $7 per gallon in the US before people start to freak out. Did 510 00:28:28,170 --> 00:28:31,530 you see seven bucks or do it seven bucks? Yeah, 511 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,650 I think then people just start just going frickin nuts, you 512 00:28:34,650 --> 00:28:38,310 know, that and, and food costs, which of course, are rising. And 513 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:41,100 I think, you know, that seems like a scam to me, too. 514 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:44,610 Someone's just jumping on some bandwagon. And I mean, there 515 00:28:44,610 --> 00:28:48,660 seems to be no actual economic reason for this to be happening 516 00:28:48,690 --> 00:28:53,910 other than futures traders. Yeah, exactly. Just just futures 517 00:28:53,910 --> 00:28:56,700 traders just jumping from oil say, hey, let's let's we can do 518 00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:59,970 this with rice. You know, we can make up some bullshit about 519 00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:04,860 biofuel using up too much of the commodity resources, and we'll 520 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:06,810 start jacking up the price. Isn't that exactly what's 521 00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:07,320 happening? 522 00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:09,630 Well, that there was somebody sent me a note, because I've 523 00:29:09,630 --> 00:29:13,140 been, we've been discussing these economics, things over the 524 00:29:13,140 --> 00:29:15,510 last number of months. And I unfortunately, don't have his 525 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:18,180 name in front of me. But a pretty good analysis saying you 526 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:23,160 know, that the way to go is is that you, you know, you go long 527 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,280 on oil and short the dollar, you know, in futures. And you just 528 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,040 keep doing that and doing that and doing that to get to the 529 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,970 point where the oil prices ridiculous. Dollar is 530 00:29:32,970 --> 00:29:36,330 ridiculously low. And then you reverse it. And you can run the 531 00:29:36,330 --> 00:29:39,270 thing back the other way as fast as you can make just millions 532 00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:40,470 and millions of dollars. Just 533 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:43,500 just reverse your history, your straddle, basically, it's not 534 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:44,580 what a straddle is called. 535 00:29:45,030 --> 00:29:47,190 Well, it's kind of a straddle, but it's actually it's really 536 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:50,370 more it's, it's, I don't know what you'd call this leverage. 537 00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:54,150 Because Because if you're doing both and they're both going in 538 00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:56,430 the same direction, not really straddling anything, that's 539 00:29:56,430 --> 00:29:56,850 true. 540 00:29:59,670 --> 00:30:04,290 But But my question was Do you Do you think that this is just 541 00:30:04,290 --> 00:30:07,020 the futures traders just jacking up the price of some of the 542 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:10,170 commodities like rice? Grain all that other stuff? 543 00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:13,200 Yeah, that the dollar is the best example of this. I mean, 544 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,850 there's something wrong with this. I mean, the dollar is 545 00:30:17,910 --> 00:30:20,790 obviously still weak because of this war that we've got. But But 546 00:30:20,790 --> 00:30:23,640 still, there's something wrong with this picture when someone 547 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,290 in France can buy you know, can come over here and buy a bottle 548 00:30:28,290 --> 00:30:32,490 of their own wine cheaper at almost half the price. Yeah. 549 00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:36,240 Yeah, I agree. I mean, that is not right. 550 00:30:42,810 --> 00:30:46,350 Yeah, so there you go. We're getting shafted. 551 00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:50,610 It's all part of the grand scheme of things totally is 552 00:30:50,610 --> 00:30:53,430 actually is it there's the chef job isn't going to be fair. I 553 00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:55,920 mean, Americans aren't I mean, except for the price of 554 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,290 gasoline, even though nobody seems to be complaining much 555 00:30:58,290 --> 00:31:00,300 about and people don't complain too much about anything, which 556 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:03,690 is a problem, I would recommend taking a problem. Take a look at 557 00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:07,380 this week's market watch column where I think it's called 558 00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:10,260 watching the watchdogs where I start to moan about because when 559 00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:13,830 AIG went you know, apparently showed up with an $8 billion 560 00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:17,730 loss this is the insurer that tanked the street last week 561 00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:18,360 right Thursday 562 00:31:18,930 --> 00:31:22,140 last week and then they and then Standard and Poor's as well 563 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:25,620 we're gonna have to lower their rating to double A minus they 564 00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:30,600 were triple A rated I'm thinking what these rating agencies are 565 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,860 complete bogus scam if they can This is like in a new way my 566 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:38,910 weatherman got a clue 567 00:31:40,050 --> 00:31:42,120 that but that doesn't mean that's the shit they gotta be 568 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,600 look that's illegal man. These ratings agencies that what are 569 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,150 they on the take? I mean, this is this is messed up. 570 00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:53,490 Well, there's a guy talking about that kind of thing. I got 571 00:31:53,490 --> 00:31:56,100 a lot of interesting stories at this Korean conference about 572 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,270 about some of this stuff to weird stuff that was going on in 573 00:32:00,270 --> 00:32:03,360 the late 90s before the.com crash where the you know, these 574 00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:06,210 these companies would come in and say well, you know, if you 575 00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:09,300 do this and that let us be your underwriter will give you the 576 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,490 big write ups and the good ratings and the rest of 577 00:32:11,490 --> 00:32:12,060 analysts. 578 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:15,630 Yeah, well, that's that's the that's the way it works. You go 579 00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:18,330 with the right investment firm that has well known analyst who 580 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:20,940 has a track record, which of course is just based on luck 581 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:23,580 pretty much although a lot of them do have some really good 582 00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:26,730 models for well established businesses. But yeah, that's and 583 00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:29,220 those two sides of the house. That's the so called Chinese 584 00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:32,490 wall. Whether Yeah, they're not supposed to talk to each other. 585 00:32:32,730 --> 00:32:34,920 If anyone's ever looked at that Chinese wall, but there's a lot 586 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,340 of holes. 587 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,450 Massive something cool. I'm sorry, go ahead. 588 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,460 No, no, nothing no just just changed the topic completely. So 589 00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:48,390 I'm at the airport in Seoul, Korea, and there's a Skype 590 00:32:48,390 --> 00:32:48,900 store. 591 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:53,100 Oh, with Skype apparel? No, they 592 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,860 had for Skype. I guess you could get an account and a flow phone 593 00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:58,320 to take with you or whatever. They use CDMA there, and most of 594 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,530 the phones don't work. I mean, I took a phone from the office 595 00:33:01,530 --> 00:33:04,200 that was supposed to work and then wouldn't charge and then I 596 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:07,710 had took my sad my Sony Ericsson phone, which I bought in Europe. 597 00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:10,980 I thought it was universal could be abused anywhere. No. Can't 598 00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:14,760 find this transmitter. I mean, this year, I think the GSM 599 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,310 thing. Great thing about GSM is you can use it anywhere in the 600 00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:19,740 world. That's not even close to being true. 601 00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:23,130 I have not had any problems. I'm surprised. 602 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Yeah, we'll take one of these phones that you think you've had 603 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,490 no problems with and take it to Korea, where they use CDMA GSM 604 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,210 I wonder if the iPhone works in China? 605 00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:38,970 I know they've no it doesn't work in China because I've had 606 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:42,120 to get some buddy twittered me asking whether they ever think 607 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,480 that the iPhone ever will work on on China it will work I'm 608 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,480 sure I was thinking Korea it should work in China. Okay, but 609 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:48,720 not in 610 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,470 Korea. No, yeah, that what the CDMA thing is not what sprint 611 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:53,790 still uses in the US. 612 00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:57,540 I don't know. Well, I don't know if that's maybe 613 00:33:57,570 --> 00:34:01,200 sprint was. Yeah, there's one carrier that did. I was actually 614 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,630 going to change the topic and say that something really cool 615 00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:07,560 launched here in the UK, which I just think is amazing. Freesat, 616 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,140 UK. Have you heard of this? No. So it's a free satellite system. 617 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,820 So actually, you buy the, the set top box for I think it's 60 618 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:23,190 pounds, so about 100 bucks. And, or it's even cheaper than I 619 00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:28,350 think with installation, all told, maybe 120 100 and $130. 620 00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:34,110 And then you basically flip it on, there's no no subscription 621 00:34:34,110 --> 00:34:37,260 charge. It's like Freeview. If you know that over here, they 622 00:34:37,290 --> 00:34:40,380 you can receive digital channels right over the air. And so now 623 00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:45,060 you have HD quality of all of the publicly available channels 624 00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:48,090 and of course if you want you can just dial a number and then 625 00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:51,150 you can take a temporary subscription like a one day for 626 00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:55,500 the porn service. Or you know, you can get some other package 627 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:57,720 but it's it's I love what they're doing. I mean, they 628 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,260 really leading with this, you know, here at is get your cheap 629 00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:04,050 set top box you know will sell you all the upgrades you want 630 00:35:04,050 --> 00:35:06,300 but basically here's your television you know you don't 631 00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:09,630 need anything more. You get your BBC you get your ITV your 632 00:35:09,630 --> 00:35:15,390 channel for your CNN, your BBC 24 news, all that good stuff. 633 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,060 And if you want more, you can just order it ala carte. I think 634 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,460 it's fantastic. And if your satellite 635 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:24,000 but what don't you have to have somebody instal a dish? 636 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,150 Yeah, you can instal it yourself or they'll instal it for you 637 00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:28,740 that's built into that price. 638 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:33,270 So, so what's the price again? 639 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,960 Like 102 130 bucks installed everything ready to go and no 640 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,790 monthly charge? You guys. 641 00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:43,020 So it's a one fee? Let's put a dish up one fee. And then you 642 00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:45,630 can just you know, whatever. Yeah. I said for premium. 643 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,060 Yeah, if you want premium, and you can just order that over the 644 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:48,450 phone. 645 00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:53,040 Well, you know, one of the things I've been wanting to do, 646 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,630 there's have now a version of the long forgotten technology, 647 00:35:57,630 --> 00:36:01,500 which is still one of the better ones is see band, those big 648 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:05,880 dishes? Yeah, you know, the the early set, the first set, you 649 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,010 know, people that lived out in the country that have this huge 650 00:36:08,010 --> 00:36:10,890 dishes, because in a day, pick up the band aid, pick up the 651 00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:12,990 direct feeds from the networks and all the other stuff. 652 00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:16,590 Usually, those dishes were located right next to a trailer. 653 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,890 I've seen exactly, you know what I mean? Right? It'd be a big 654 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:25,950 dish. And that's where they got to, you know, the feeds of Dan 655 00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:29,850 Rather picking his nose. Oh, that's right, the good old days. 656 00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:33,570 So but anyway, that that has not gone away, necessarily. But it's 657 00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:39,330 gone to two HD. And so there's a bunch of HD channels now that 658 00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:42,150 are up there, that in fact, everything up there is not 659 00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:45,870 coming down in HD. And if you do if you get to new receivers, you 660 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,970 mean, in other words, this technology is not dead. It's 661 00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:50,130 just kind of being overlooked a lot. And it still has more 662 00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:53,880 versatility. And I've been thinking about actually going to 663 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,920 a C band dish because I have a pad in my backyard. And I'm in a 664 00:36:58,950 --> 00:37:04,380 really good spot, I think to hit the heli birds. What No, you 665 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:08,220 know, a pad for a dish. I had a Oh, okay. A constant helicopter. 666 00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:11,130 Yeah, I wish I had. It's not that big of a backyard. But 667 00:37:11,130 --> 00:37:15,570 anyway. But I have the thing, the pole the whole thing. And so 668 00:37:15,570 --> 00:37:18,960 I could put that thing up there and then get the HD but what I 669 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,900 think is cool. And I think, I don't know if the free set 670 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,660 people do this, but it would be cool. If they did, I'm sure they 671 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:28,380 don't. But there are systems that you can subscribe to, for 672 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:32,640 the premium stuff where you can, and it's all prorated. You can 673 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,500 get HBO for a day. 674 00:37:35,250 --> 00:37:38,940 Right? There was a while when I was really deep into that shit 675 00:37:38,970 --> 00:37:41,460 into the satellite stuff. And I knew all the guys who had like 676 00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:48,630 the gold cards, which is kind of code for Cracked decoding cards 677 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:51,270 and there's a whole community there's all kinds of shit 678 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:53,790 happening on satellite let you know like that crazy movie you 679 00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:57,300 saw the other day from Shell. But there's a lot of really 680 00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:01,500 weird channels and experimentation going on. Yeah, 681 00:38:01,529 --> 00:38:03,929 there's yeah, there's a lot of when I'm when I'm sure that C 682 00:38:03,929 --> 00:38:04,259 band 683 00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:08,520 you're right, you know, because it's that's huge. frequency 684 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,010 range, isn't it? Don't they have a lot of bandwidth on the on 685 00:38:11,010 --> 00:38:12,150 that C C band? 686 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,510 Yeah, as far as I know. I mean, you and and the great thing is, 687 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:20,160 is that, again, you know, you could do I mean, besides all the 688 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,500 free stuff that's up there, because once you buy this, you 689 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:25,590 know, it's not it's not as cheap as I mean, obviously, it's gonna 690 00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:28,890 cost you a couple $1,000 to get up to speed. But then again, 691 00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:32,550 once you get it, you never have to pay again. And if you do want 692 00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:34,830 to go for that premium stuff, there's the systems where you 693 00:38:34,830 --> 00:38:37,920 can you know, you there's an eight movie coming up on HBO HD, 694 00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:41,880 you want to watch it, you just buy the hBo hBo for that week or 695 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,780 for that day, and you don't have to keep paying and paying and 696 00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:46,290 paying. And 697 00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:48,690 those are the old cool systems where you have to have a rotor 698 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,650 attached to your 699 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,600 Oh, absolutely. Yeah, because there's different birds. 700 00:38:52,410 --> 00:38:54,060 repositioning the and the 701 00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:57,810 rotor actually will slowly turn with the with the rotation of 702 00:38:57,810 --> 00:38:59,610 the Earth to stay in sync is not. 703 00:39:00,330 --> 00:39:02,640 Well, this deserves Geosynchronous Satellite such 704 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,820 and had to turn it all but the satellites do wiggle around a 705 00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:06,300 little bit. 706 00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:12,690 Yeah, now that's cool stuff. I remember the days. I've talked 707 00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:18,750 about this before, a long time ago. The BBC did it. And in 708 00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:21,600 fact, it was, I think lots of different countries. I heard 709 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,970 were doing it. I was living in the Netherlands. I was I had a 710 00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:29,310 Commodore VIC 20. And later is 64. And there was a programme on 711 00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:33,990 national radio on FM, and they would broadcast programmes and 712 00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:36,360 you would call you would record those on the cassette tape and 713 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,310 then load them into your computer. It was the most 714 00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:45,120 awesome distribution ever. Yeah. I was thinking, I always loved 715 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,310 those kinds of systems, you know, so yeah, 716 00:39:47,340 --> 00:39:50,070 those things come and go. But David, so I'm thinking of 717 00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:53,040 getting a C band thing I keep talking about it just seems like 718 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,000 an interesting kind of solution to Well, 719 00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:00,750 I see a trend of people moving you know, there their media 720 00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:04,740 habits are now really accelerating in different 721 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:09,090 directions primarily away from network based broadcast 722 00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:11,700 television. I was reading the ratings the other day, you know, 723 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:16,830 after the writer strike. All ratings except for American 724 00:40:16,830 --> 00:40:19,800 Idol, that's the only exception. So Fox kind of wins in this and 725 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,430 of course had the Super Bowl, all the ratings are down 14%, 726 00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:29,100 you know, have only a small amount of their new shows of 727 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:32,730 this new the new the new season even mate did over 4 million 728 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,450 viewers per episode. I mean, that's that's small man, these 729 00:40:36,450 --> 00:40:39,930 audiences are getting outstripped by other media or 730 00:40:40,410 --> 00:40:43,380 certainly aggregated. If you looked across all other media 731 00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:44,160 pretty quickly. 732 00:40:45,149 --> 00:40:48,269 Well, I think they're gonna have to rethink the way they look at 733 00:40:48,269 --> 00:40:51,689 this stuff, too. i My concern is that what we're going to lose, I 734 00:40:51,689 --> 00:40:55,349 mean, I, you can kind of see the shift to even like with a lot of 735 00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:57,569 different kinds of broadcasting, the show that we're doing, for 736 00:40:57,569 --> 00:41:02,519 example, is essentially what could have been done on on 737 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:05,369 radio, but without the same convenience, the radio doesn't 738 00:41:05,369 --> 00:41:08,429 have a TiVo, you know, there's no way subscribing to a show 739 00:41:08,429 --> 00:41:12,959 like this over the conventional system. But with this over the 740 00:41:12,959 --> 00:41:16,739 internet approach, it's got more versatility is obviously going 741 00:41:16,739 --> 00:41:19,889 to make things different. Because this is really the way 742 00:41:19,889 --> 00:41:21,539 to go. And 743 00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:25,080 for this kind of this kind of format and programming. Yeah, I 744 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,090 agree. That's the way to go. Right? 745 00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:32,130 In that media, but with TV. I mean, it seems to me as it is, 746 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,180 it is slowly shifting away from what I what I would miss the 747 00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:42,570 most are, you know, good dramas, and good sitcoms. And the thing 748 00:41:42,570 --> 00:41:44,910 is, is that I've noticed over the years, a lot of the 749 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:48,240 definitely there's still good material on television, as the 750 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,300 CDC seems to be scattered about much more than it used to be. 751 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:55,290 It's not as compact, easy to find, and reliable. And some 752 00:41:55,290 --> 00:41:58,680 years ago, they started moving the shows too much. I mean, it 753 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080 would be Wednesday night, and they changed it to Thursday 754 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,540 night, then they changed and it used to be always considered, I 755 00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:03,840 think 756 00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:08,160 you're kind of already offering up your own solution for this. 757 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,880 And I agree with you. I mean, I watched lots of drama. And I 758 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,570 also know how hard it is to make it how expensive it is, an 759 00:42:15,570 --> 00:42:18,240 episode of loss will be anywhere between two and a half and $3 760 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:23,460 million. So and by the way that production does actually get 761 00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:26,580 paid everyone on the set and everyone involved in the 762 00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:30,330 production up to the new what we call tape on desk, they're all 763 00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:34,290 paid and and they're done. So then it's up to the to the 764 00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:37,020 broadcaster to go make money. And of course, there's also a 765 00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:40,140 distributor because there's international distribution, etc. 766 00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:44,880 But I think we're getting close closer to the point where there 767 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,670 will be enough vehicles, enough outlets to either sell or 768 00:42:50,670 --> 00:42:55,110 through other monetization mechanisms to actually grab that 769 00:42:55,110 --> 00:42:58,860 kind of scale. As long as as long as it's actually available 770 00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:02,730 and not just free to air on television. I think they could 771 00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:05,520 that type of budget and recouping on that is probably 772 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,120 viable. 773 00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:10,740 I think it is, especially if they if they monetize it in more 774 00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:13,110 than one way, which I think is one of the keys here. And that's 775 00:43:13,110 --> 00:43:17,310 why I think when they first started putting TV series of TV 776 00:43:17,310 --> 00:43:23,400 shows on DVDs. Yeah, for example, the Firefly series, 777 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,940 which was a really outstanding programme that Fox screwed up 778 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:31,290 and so but on DVD, people, you know, would just buy the DVDs, 779 00:43:31,530 --> 00:43:34,500 and watch the thing and I think may have paid out over time. And 780 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:36,780 also, you know, people who missed the first couple of 781 00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:40,440 seasons of alias, or the one that I think is hot right now 782 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,400 for DVDs is the wire. And people would watch it because I always 783 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,520 told people that use Dwyer was one of the great dramas ever put 784 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,610 on television. And I always say Well Don't even start watching 785 00:43:50,610 --> 00:43:55,350 it on HBO, get the DVDs and catch up to the story. And then 786 00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:59,010 you know, start watching it then. And people would you know, 787 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,400 everybody in my family has watched the wire mostly off the 788 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,280 DVDs. And there's money to be made off of that, because that's 789 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,800 how the movie people do it in the budget. You know if it would 790 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,960 cost $2 million in episode to make a TV drama and you do two 791 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,530 of them. That's like a one DVDs worth of material for a $4 792 00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:20,220 million outlay as opposed to what a movie costs are produced, 793 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:24,120 which is an average of 66 million, according to everybody. 794 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:27,990 And it's there's a lot of there's a lot of money to be 795 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:31,290 made. Obviously the margins are different. So that so I hope 796 00:44:31,290 --> 00:44:34,500 that the you know, they don't stop doing these things if they 797 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,900 can get these other channels to work. Here's 798 00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:40,290 just one thing that you know, Ron and I have been in Los 799 00:44:40,290 --> 00:44:46,350 Angeles a lot in the past couple of months. And we've pretty much 800 00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:50,820 struck a couple of interesting deals. In fact, one agency a 801 00:44:50,820 --> 00:44:59,370 large one. They represent I think it's like 110 pilots that 802 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,210 are Um, that basically didn't make it that didn't get on the 803 00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:06,090 air. And that's not because they were bad. Obviously, there's 804 00:45:06,090 --> 00:45:10,110 only so many so many shows that can enter rotation on a seasonal 805 00:45:10,110 --> 00:45:13,710 basis. And I think we've pretty much secured the rights to be 806 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:16,380 able to, you know, put those up on our network and see if 807 00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:19,650 anything strikes. And you know, that could actually be a way to 808 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,530 start one of these up, you know, we'll see, but at least we'll 809 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,440 we'll have a good laugh at 100 pilots that didn't make it. 810 00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:29,010 Yeah, no, that'd be fun. And he actually used to be a TV show 811 00:45:29,010 --> 00:45:32,340 that did that during the summer. They would run all his whole 812 00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:34,860 pies, but it was it was, you know, the lot of this stuff 813 00:45:34,860 --> 00:45:37,740 doesn't television doesn't work for a lot of things. Because 814 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,020 especially non episodic things that just random. It's better if 815 00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:46,470 it's, I think TiVo has helped a lot. But TiVo is not the 816 00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:48,450 complete solution, the real solution to the whole thing is 817 00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:51,870 IPTV where everything's actually done, distributed over the net, 818 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:54,840 when you want it off of huge catalogues, 819 00:45:55,110 --> 00:45:57,510 which is where we're going, Dude, that's what the y max 820 00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:58,620 cloud is all about. 821 00:46:00,030 --> 00:46:03,630 Yeah, y max isn't helping things much. But it is where we're 822 00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:04,950 going, somehow 823 00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:08,070 an on demand world. 824 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,080 And now, you know, that also does shake out, you know, the 825 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,080 cream of the crop will come show up different ways. It also lets 826 00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:19,440 niche markets develop. I mean, our show, for example, or any of 827 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,460 the tech shows that are out there are totally niche. They're 828 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:26,190 not necessarily for everybody. It's not the mass market. But 829 00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:29,310 there's there is a mass market, if you take a worldwide 830 00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:32,940 audience, and you can let everyone tap into it. I mean, if 831 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:36,480 you have, you know, on a domestic basis, you have a tuner 832 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,790 million people in the biggest market in the world, which is in 833 00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:44,130 terms of dollars, the US market, you have 200 million people and 834 00:46:44,130 --> 00:46:47,310 you can get 10 million to watch something. You know, that's 835 00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:50,520 that's a success. But if you have a worldwide market of 836 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,510 billions of people, you can get the same 10 million only from a 837 00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:58,740 broader grouping much easier over the internet and 838 00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:01,950 distributed cheaper to you. Your so your home business model is 839 00:47:01,950 --> 00:47:03,210 completely changed. Yep. 840 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:08,850 Yep. It's, it's definitely happening. I can feel it. And 841 00:47:08,850 --> 00:47:11,370 you know, I can't I really, I really, really can't, and it's 842 00:47:11,370 --> 00:47:13,320 still going to be another 10 years. I'm sure. 843 00:47:14,310 --> 00:47:16,260 It always takes longer when you're when you're, you know, 844 00:47:16,260 --> 00:47:17,640 surfing that wave, you know, 845 00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:20,340 that's what I mean. You can totally feel the wave. But my 846 00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:23,370 experience has taught me slow down, boy, slow down. 847 00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:27,780 dead by the time our vision takes place, 848 00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:30,900 but John will be dead together. Won't that be fun? 849 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,030 Yeah. So anyway, but it is obviously the major underlying 850 00:47:36,030 --> 00:47:38,940 trend, that but it's kind of the fun part is when you have a 851 00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:41,580 trend like that, that's so apparent. It's kind of fun to 852 00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:46,740 watch people scramble around trying to either try to fix you 853 00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:50,490 know, do whatever, which brings me to Sumner Redstone who I got 854 00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:53,250 to meet in Korea. I've met him he's a very interesting guy. 855 00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:56,010 coot would be the word that comes to mind. 856 00:47:56,670 --> 00:47:59,760 That's a good description. People are very afraid of him at 857 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,500 Viacom, very afraid. 858 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,430 Well, you know, they probably shouldn't be he's pretty. He's, 859 00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:08,220 you know, he's got a he's a man with opinions. I think I'm gonna 860 00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:11,220 take his side though, on the, on his suit against us. 861 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,330 Totally. Right. Absolutely. Yeah, but I also 862 00:48:15,330 --> 00:48:18,120 have a twist to it, which I'm gonna I think I'm gonna run this 863 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,240 is a column and PC mag on Monday. And it's going to be 864 00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:23,880 it's going to have a twist to it that I think is going to be very 865 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,640 interesting because I just came to me when I was flying back 866 00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:32,130 from Korea, that he I'll take his side but then I'm going to 867 00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:35,310 twist it in some interesting way. I mean, he's not going to 868 00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:37,950 be able to you know, he'll never read read or hear of this 869 00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:42,330 column, I'm sure. But the funny thing was his main complaint 870 00:48:42,330 --> 00:48:45,180 over in Korea and i By the way, I got some great contacts over 871 00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:49,620 there now that will be helping me to expose some of the common 872 00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:55,290 places that are inaccurate up on the blog. And it is very 873 00:48:55,290 --> 00:48:58,590 interesting. But anyway, the his main complaint is that the 874 00:48:58,590 --> 00:49:02,820 Koreans even though they are the people who do the SpongeBob 875 00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:05,490 SquarePants cartoon there because all the cartooning is 876 00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:08,430 done in Korea. Now. Most of it now the anime, the fact that 877 00:49:08,430 --> 00:49:10,890 nations right they've got a bunch of studios all over the 878 00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:14,940 place. They they they make the cartoon but they don't subscribe 879 00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:16,470 to the SpongeBob show. 880 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,170 They don't like it. That I'm diggin. So he is 881 00:49:19,470 --> 00:49:21,600 a bait I'm telling you, he gives a speech and he and 882 00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:25,980 Mr. ledson it is a talking splint. 883 00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:30,330 You know the problem that I think that he's missing and he 884 00:49:30,330 --> 00:49:33,390 loves the show, apparently but if anyway, I never knew about it 885 00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:36,300 might when my daughter was you know as young she was always 886 00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:39,720 watching Spongebob and I kind of got into SpongeBob dog cat and 887 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,890 all those crazy shows they want Nickelodeon, The Amanda Show and 888 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:52,470 but the SpongeBob SquarePants cartoon is high comedy. In some 889 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,240 crackpot is a very, very weird and advanced form of humour. 890 00:49:57,660 --> 00:50:01,170 That is that dead transcends. 891 00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:05,760 Oh, that's that's the sign of a great cartoon right is when the 892 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,670 parents can be laughing in the kids as well, only two totally 893 00:50:08,670 --> 00:50:09,570 different reasons. 894 00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:13,050 Right. But it's not in the intellectual sense of the old 895 00:50:13,050 --> 00:50:16,590 Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons where there was a lot of asides, 896 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,150 or even the Simpsons cartoons, which are almost adult sitcoms 897 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,710 with a children's kind of, you know, cartoony quality, where 898 00:50:25,710 --> 00:50:29,040 they're very this is really nasty humour. The, you know, 899 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,330 they just go after it. This is the weirdest kind of thing I've 900 00:50:33,330 --> 00:50:36,930 ever seen in terms of its humour, and I just don't see a 901 00:50:36,930 --> 00:50:40,500 lot of cultures, ever even coming close to getting them 902 00:50:40,530 --> 00:50:44,550 getting it. You know that it just if you don't get the meta 903 00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:48,900 joke in there. It's not funny in the least. In fact, it's the 904 00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:57,810 stupidest show ever. Yeah. And so he just like you could just 905 00:50:57,810 --> 00:51:00,540 see as frustrated by the fact that the Koreans, they draw the 906 00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:03,510 Cartoon For God's sake, why are they watching it? 907 00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:07,590 One time, I took advantage of the Viacom corporate culture and 908 00:51:07,590 --> 00:51:12,450 I I went to the Nickelodeon Studios, which is I think it's 909 00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:13,050 in Florida. 910 00:51:14,130 --> 00:51:15,090 I don't know where they are. Yeah, I 911 00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:19,140 think it's in Florida. And we had the whole VIP treatment. And 912 00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:22,110 my daughter was on the show, and we all got slimed. And your 913 00:51:22,110 --> 00:51:24,090 daughter's probably too old for that now to appreciate the 914 00:51:24,090 --> 00:51:24,570 slime. 915 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,960 She probably had to limit Yeah, 13. 916 00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:32,700 Christina was Shinano, seven or eight. And it was just awesome. 917 00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:35,670 Absolutely awesome. They know how to do that. They take care 918 00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:36,840 of their own. They're at Viacom. 919 00:51:39,150 --> 00:51:40,740 What do you how do you get that crap off? Yeah. 920 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,050 It's, uh, you gotta shower. They have a shower, a whole setup 921 00:51:46,050 --> 00:51:46,710 right there. 922 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,980 I think they should invent some sort of SLAM like that. You can 923 00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:52,050 just get slammed and you just shake like a dog and it all 924 00:51:52,050 --> 00:51:52,620 comes off. 925 00:51:54,330 --> 00:51:56,760 Boy, we'd be rich. If only we could come up with that 926 00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:58,740 perfectly Would Professor Flubber 927 00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:03,090 do the product would be that you did would be some green slime. 928 00:52:03,090 --> 00:52:05,550 But you fall on you and we'd get all over you'd be a total mess. 929 00:52:05,550 --> 00:52:07,950 And you'd shake like a dog and would fly off. Yeah. And then it 930 00:52:07,950 --> 00:52:08,940 would disappear. 931 00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:11,580 Well, don't you remember that? There was a product called slime 932 00:52:11,610 --> 00:52:14,400 at one point. Remember that? Ya know, the green canister that 933 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,690 was reasonably good. 934 00:52:16,650 --> 00:52:20,490 Yeah, but it wasn't that good. It was. It was good. It should 935 00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:22,740 disappear. It should have some quality. So it just completely 936 00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:25,260 disappears. It just evaporate like alcohol. 937 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,780 And will have it made in China. 938 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,980 Right. And ended up being toxic unfortunately. 939 00:52:32,730 --> 00:52:40,560 Here's a trend. Boys in Britain with increasing rate do not want 940 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,880 to French kiss. 941 00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:45,330 You kidding? Yeah. 942 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,930 And this is I had a whole conversation with my daughter 943 00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:51,270 and a couple of her friends that were here in the garden today. 944 00:52:51,810 --> 00:52:52,350 And it's 945 00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:55,320 because the Brits hate the French that much. 946 00:52:56,009 --> 00:53:00,779 That was my question too. But like, we ate these fucking 947 00:53:00,779 --> 00:53:01,289 French 948 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,660 no more dead tongue. 949 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,690 It's called a freedom from Freedom kiss now instead of 950 00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:11,220 French kissing? No. They're just not into it. It's Believe me, 951 00:53:11,220 --> 00:53:13,200 there ain't a whole bunch of other stuff. Because, you know, 952 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,410 I did get all the details but know that they don't like French 953 00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:19,950 kissing. It's going out of vogue. Pun intended. 954 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:22,560 That's interesting. Yeah. 955 00:53:23,610 --> 00:53:25,290 And so I've told my daughters 956 00:53:25,290 --> 00:53:28,500 to sociology think behind that. I really don't know. You know, 957 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:28,590 the 958 00:53:28,590 --> 00:53:30,750 first thing I said is baby, maybe you need a tic tac, you 959 00:53:30,750 --> 00:53:33,420 know, she's like, Oh, no, no, no, Dad, and then, you know, her 960 00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:36,150 friend Liz. And a couple of these girls say Yeah, more and 961 00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:38,310 more boys. Just they don't like it. They just 962 00:53:38,370 --> 00:53:41,460 get the boys the girls don't one way or the other. Not the boys. 963 00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:41,610 It's 964 00:53:41,610 --> 00:53:45,240 the boys who don't want to French kiss. That's kind of 965 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:45,900 trippy, isn't it? 966 00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:49,200 That's wild. I wonder if that would if that trend is 967 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,040 developing here. 968 00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:53,940 I have no idea. Personally, I'm I'm a big fan 969 00:53:55,590 --> 00:54:00,990 of wood with French kissing boys. Yes, specially young. You 970 00:54:00,990 --> 00:54:02,730 set it up. I was supposed to say hi. 971 00:54:02,730 --> 00:54:09,120 No, I was open goal. That's what we say over 972 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,180 here. Open net. We'd say here to be more of a hockey term. 973 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:15,360 Okay. Open goal is for football, which as you know is the real 974 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,680 soccer. Yes, I'm becoming quite a pimp that way. So yeah, no, I 975 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,060 thought that was pretty interesting trend though. I have 976 00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:23,820 no idea what the sociology behind it would be. I really I 977 00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:27,240 really can't figure that one out. I mean, you still see it 978 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,670 and all the porn. I'm reliably informed. 979 00:54:30,570 --> 00:54:33,630 Yeah, but Kedah know how many? How many kids will I mean, 980 00:54:33,660 --> 00:54:36,300 Shannon? How many people you know how many teenage boys have 981 00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,690 watch porn. I mean, I think they look at porn on the net. But 982 00:54:39,690 --> 00:54:40,530 yeah, that's different than 983 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,650 Yeah, they're all looking for the you know for the latest sex 984 00:54:43,650 --> 00:54:46,800 video. That's that's really a big thing. And they make their 985 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,200 own. You know, there's a lot of that going on. Oh, did you see 986 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,770 so and so sex tape, you know that totally mimicking, you 987 00:54:52,770 --> 00:54:56,280 know, the Paris Hilton Lindsay Lohan. Britney Spears type 988 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,630 thing? Yeah. Which is kind of sad. 989 00:54:58,110 --> 00:55:00,690 It's totally sad because just like what you Go Yeah, once you 990 00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:04,860 go everybody go do these sex tapes and put them on new tube 991 00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:08,700 which is one of the there's a whole bunch of them too. There 992 00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:12,420 are a bunch of just typing in porn to put anything tube and 993 00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:17,250 you'll find some porn and tube because you know they got some 994 00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:19,770 smart money guys you know they're in the same classes are 995 00:55:19,770 --> 00:55:21,780 going to be collecting these things and then when you know 996 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:25,200 you had you and the other guy working at the same company you 997 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,020 know looking up for the same promotion even though what I'll 998 00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:31,680 never work for a company that's thrown in your face 999 00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:36,480 now it's gonna surface but yeah, I mean that's the I 1000 00:55:36,510 --> 00:55:40,020 think I had people think ahead. But that's it's changing 1001 00:55:40,020 --> 00:55:43,830 to John I mean it's the same thing with so now the you as we 1002 00:55:43,830 --> 00:55:46,140 were talking earlier, now the Brits are going to store all 1003 00:55:46,140 --> 00:55:51,960 these images from the CCTV cameras in a database. I'm 1004 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,200 thinking we should sell the whole kit and caboodle to Mark 1005 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,830 Burnett and call it Britain the reality show. Just let him 1006 00:55:58,830 --> 00:56:02,130 switch it live make a whole channel 24 So why not? Did you 1007 00:56:02,130 --> 00:56:04,710 see that band that was this is a fantastic I think was on boing 1008 00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:11,670 boing, a band shot their video clip by doing performances in 1009 00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:15,300 front of all of these different cameras in I think it was mainly 1010 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,790 in London, maybe in Manchester as well, maybe even Birmingham. 1011 00:56:18,270 --> 00:56:20,970 And then they and then they submitted Freedom of Information 1012 00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:24,450 Act requests for the footage, and they strung it all together 1013 00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:26,100 and made a music video out of it. 1014 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,640 No, I didn't know that. That's a great thing. Yeah, I 1015 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,550 think it's a great boring. Oh, it's fantastic. You know, and 1016 00:56:32,550 --> 00:56:36,570 then you see, you know, you see all these different angles. It's 1017 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,570 funny. It's pretty funny. 1018 00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:43,770 These cameras are ridiculous. Yeah, but yeah, 1019 00:56:43,950 --> 00:56:47,940 our whole life and this is this is why I did our reality show 1020 00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:51,480 back in the day. It's like yeah, this is this is what's happening 1021 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,820 it's going to be real normal for people to be putting all this 1022 00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:56,580 shit out there. And and not necessarily that even thinking 1023 00:56:56,580 --> 00:56:58,650 about putting their shit out there but they just put it out 1024 00:56:58,650 --> 00:56:59,730 and then it gets out there. 1025 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,140 Well, that brings me back to the original Albert Brooks movie 1026 00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:07,410 that went back for years this I think was his first film and I 1027 00:57:07,410 --> 00:57:09,480 can't remember the name of it I'll have to take a look look it 1028 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,750 up in his filmography but it's where he you know, is these 1029 00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:15,540 people being followed around this is actually predates all 1030 00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:19,620 this reality stuff is obviously very, very interesting. You 1031 00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:21,990 know, these people have these cameras on their heads, like 1032 00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:24,210 whole crew people, and they move in with this family and 1033 00:57:24,210 --> 00:57:27,720 basically film everything they do. And who knew it was actually 1034 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,660 going to be a trend, but the movie itself is quite revealing. 1035 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,100 I'll look it up. 1036 00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:37,740 I'm looking right now. When was it from? He did. Albert Brooks. 1037 00:57:37,740 --> 00:57:43,740 His first movie is first. Yeah, it was called. Was really old. I 1038 00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:45,240 mean, he's in the 70s. I believe. 1039 00:57:45,450 --> 00:57:50,610 I'm looking at IMDB. Right now. I'm seeing a lot of appearances. 1040 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:51,660 And we're gonna 1041 00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:55,320 manage Albert brooks.com He's got all his movies on here. See 1042 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,440 what he's got here. Real Life 1979 1043 00:57:58,950 --> 00:58:02,940 Real life I'm trying to think if I've seen that. 1044 00:58:03,570 --> 00:58:06,930 You've seen it? I'm sure but anyways, the thing about the 1045 00:58:06,930 --> 00:58:10,980 thing is the these people that were filming the doing the 1046 00:58:10,980 --> 00:58:14,670 reality show, they had these big cameras on their heads. So they 1047 00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:19,320 look like they had Pat's on. And they were walking around with 1048 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,660 this, like all constantly, it was actually quite funny. 1049 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,580 That was the the old vision one day we'll have cameras on our 1050 00:58:26,580 --> 00:58:27,150 heads. 1051 00:58:28,410 --> 00:58:30,630 Well, it was meant to mock the whole idea. Because I think 1052 00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:34,530 though, concepts were just being first thought out right around 1053 00:58:34,530 --> 00:58:38,640 the late 70s. And many which way does this movie? And it turns 1054 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,420 out that how I mean, it's just just amazing film if you look at 1055 00:58:42,420 --> 00:58:44,850 it in terms of The Truman Show and some of these other films 1056 00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:48,090 that came out much later. And I don't think Brooks has ever 1057 00:58:48,090 --> 00:58:52,920 really you know, he did real life and Modern Romance African 1058 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,250 but that was about it. That was the kind of here's the stories 1059 00:58:56,250 --> 00:58:59,340 for oriented thing lost in America was really a good film. 1060 00:58:59,610 --> 00:59:02,220 And then it started you know, defending your life was as big 1061 00:59:02,220 --> 00:59:05,520 budget movie that was pretty good. But after that he just 1062 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,530 didn't seem to I guess he they wouldn't get any more money 1063 00:59:07,530 --> 00:59:09,840 because he did. I'm looking at his filmography or starts in 1064 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,790 1979 1981 1985. He's between five and six years between films 1065 00:59:15,390 --> 00:59:20,190 1991 1996 and 1999. The Muse which was kind of just a 1066 00:59:20,190 --> 00:59:21,930 commercial, nothing 1067 00:59:21,930 --> 00:59:24,570 fun, it was in broadcast news and 87 1068 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,450 it those are his words, the story I'm talking about the ones 1069 00:59:27,450 --> 00:59:30,090 he's where he's written, produced and directed, or 1070 00:59:30,090 --> 00:59:31,020 written and directed. 1071 00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,530 The Muse mother defending your life lost in America, Modern 1072 00:59:34,530 --> 00:59:48,330 Romance. So, in 2000 2000, maybe even end of 99 that was around 1073 00:59:48,330 --> 00:59:53,400 the time The Truman Show came out. And, and I was we were back 1074 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,450 in Holland. We just moved back and I got a call at, like 1130 1075 00:59:57,450 --> 01:00:02,490 At night it was John the mole of Entomol. You know in the mall is 1076 01:00:03,180 --> 01:00:07,740 no and the mall the big production company. Most famous 1077 01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:12,120 for big brother. Okay, yeah. Okay, worldwide success sold to 1078 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,950 Telefonica for several billion. He called me around 1130 says 1079 01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:19,710 add an item item, come to my office, I want to show you 1080 01:00:19,710 --> 01:00:23,370 something. I'm like, alright, that's kind of weird. But he was 1081 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,310 already a pretty big television producer. I'm like, okay, so I 1082 01:00:26,310 --> 01:00:29,100 go in, he says, I got a mood tape for you. So, okay, I know 1083 01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:32,880 what a mood tape is. Because it's, it's kind of biosphere 1084 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,060 meets Truman Show. And he showed me this tape. And it was 1085 01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:39,870 literally, they had it, it wasn't mood tapes, it was all 1086 01:00:39,870 --> 01:00:42,720 stuff cut together and voiceover to make it kind of looked like 1087 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,800 it was real. And essentially, it was called golden cage. And the 1088 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,870 idea was that, you know, we'd lock in 10 people, five men, 1089 01:00:51,870 --> 01:00:55,680 five women lock them up for a full year, the neon and then 1090 01:00:55,710 --> 01:00:59,760 whoever would come out as the final person would be the sorry 1091 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:05,940 about that would be the winner of like, a million euros or 1092 01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:10,800 whatever. And, and that about three months later became big 1093 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,330 brother. And okay, yeah. And I was right there at the very, 1094 01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:18,360 very start. And it was completely influenced. And, and 1095 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,440 I betcha that pieces of real life. Were in that mood tape. 1096 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,870 I'm going to see if I can find it because I have it somewhere. 1097 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,460 The original Big Brother mood table and later actually, animal 1098 01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:32,670 went on to create golden cage, which is like a really harsh 1099 01:01:32,670 --> 01:01:36,870 version of Big Brother with loving sex and getting drunk and 1100 01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:39,750 shit on camera, man. He tried to sell that in the States, that 1101 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:40,560 wouldn't even take it. 1102 01:01:43,170 --> 01:01:51,900 Our standards? Yeah, boy, we sure do. Please. Anyway, so 1103 01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:57,630 yeah, there's a bit it's, it's an interesting situation. And 1104 01:01:57,630 --> 01:01:59,880 the funny thing is about those things, though, they don't 1105 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,210 translate well to the the secondary markets. So you have 1106 01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:05,400 to make all your money right away, because I don't see 1107 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,790 anybody renting DVDs of Big Brother. 1108 01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:15,090 No. Yeah, the whole DVD retail market is gone. John, it's, it's 1109 01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:17,790 pretty much melted, which is a big Hollywood problem. We talked 1110 01:02:17,790 --> 01:02:19,410 about that last week or the week before? 1111 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,540 Yeah, no, but there's still I mean, there's still destroy, I'm 1112 01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:23,730 talking about distribution of secondary, you know, secondary 1113 01:02:23,730 --> 01:02:27,060 viewing. And yeah, maybe change from DVD to downloads or 1114 01:02:27,060 --> 01:02:29,550 whatever. But the point is, is that secondary viewing, you 1115 01:02:29,550 --> 01:02:33,180 know, old, you know, two year old Big Brother is not going to 1116 01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:36,660 be the same as a two year old, you know, some of these classics 1117 01:02:36,660 --> 01:02:38,820 that were that people can watch for the next 1118 01:02:38,850 --> 01:02:42,030 20 years now you can make more money off of, you know, Baywatch 1119 01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:45,300 from 15 years ago, then you can off of last year's big brother, 1120 01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:49,530 that's just a fact. Right? Now, because that that whole show was 1121 01:02:49,530 --> 01:02:51,960 built around audience participation. I mean, it truly 1122 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,020 is an engaged audience, you know, you have to be a part of 1123 01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:58,950 it. Otherwise, you miss it, and it's no good. Right now. And the 1124 01:02:58,950 --> 01:03:02,250 repeats are no good. It has to be it all has to be witnessed 1125 01:03:02,250 --> 01:03:05,130 kind of in real time, which is, I think, is the genius of it 1126 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,540 is a genius on the one hand, but it doesn't do much for residuals 1127 01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:12,180 or, you know, long term you know, it doesn't have to talking 1128 01:03:12,180 --> 01:03:15,570 about that's genius. Excuse me, let me get my producer hat on. 1129 01:03:15,630 --> 01:03:16,320 Are you nuts? 1130 01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:20,610 There's your man. Adam curry coming in. 1131 01:03:20,610 --> 01:03:25,020 Absolutely. I love it. No residual money, MIT. All these 1132 01:03:25,020 --> 01:03:27,900 little kids are under contract that can't do shit without us. 1133 01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:33,300 In the UK. These girls were like third or fourth, but had the 1134 01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:37,350 right vibe going on. They're doing like 100,000 pound 1135 01:03:37,350 --> 01:03:41,430 photoshoots for you know, with their clothes on for the 1136 01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:44,370 newspapers. I mean, they're, they're big, big celebrities. 1137 01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:46,440 Huge business. 1138 01:03:47,370 --> 01:03:48,930 Yeah, for them individually. 1139 01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:52,050 And people seem to love it. You know, everyone's so well, you 1140 01:03:52,050 --> 01:03:52,830 know, that's another 1141 01:03:52,830 --> 01:03:56,280 issue. I mean, people seem to love it. The public is just it's 1142 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,280 the public on some level is just pathetic, John 1143 01:03:59,310 --> 01:04:02,640 that they play Shotzi crowd Shantelle on the front page, 1144 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,390 your newspaper you sell 500,000 more copies. It's a known fact. 1145 01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:07,800 So that just do a comment saying 1146 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,830 it's not a known fact because it is a known fact. And when even 1147 01:04:10,830 --> 01:04:13,860 on the Dvorak uncensored blog until it got completely 1148 01:04:13,860 --> 01:04:16,680 ridiculous. We would put a lot of Britney Spears stuff up there 1149 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,290 even though these nerds would moan about it. They'd all be 1150 01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:22,290 reading it. It's a male audience. You know, Britney 1151 01:04:22,290 --> 01:04:25,140 Spears is cute, she's photogenic she's, you know, she's kind of 1152 01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:28,200 does stupid things. It's funny, but and you know, then it got 1153 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,230 pathetic and even my wife says, You guys have stopped as Britney 1154 01:04:31,230 --> 01:04:34,530 Spears stuff. This girl is like, you know, in trouble. Yeah. So 1155 01:04:34,530 --> 01:04:36,750 we stopped doing it, but you're actually 1156 01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:39,300 participating in that circus. Um, I'm shocked. 1157 01:04:40,530 --> 01:04:43,500 But you know, um, shouldn't be you shouldn't be shocked. But 1158 01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:46,500 the point is, it doesn't mean it's a good thing. I wouldn't. I 1159 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:50,190 wouldn't do it saying it's a good thing. I mean, I say it's a 1160 01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:56,130 bad thing, but I'll do it. Like saying public drunkenness you 1161 01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:57,600 know, is a good thing. It's not 1162 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,370 They're betting on Boris Johnson, our new mayor is, is 1163 01:05:05,370 --> 01:05:08,910 banned as of June 1, this is going to be funny. He's banning 1164 01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:13,170 open containers of alcohol on public transport. Good fucking 1165 01:05:13,170 --> 01:05:18,630 luck. I can just see the poor train conductor trying to take 1166 01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:22,350 it you can do a lot of things. But taking a beer away from an 1167 01:05:22,350 --> 01:05:25,500 inebriated Brit is just not one of the things you want to have 1168 01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:29,730 high on your list to do. Right? Especially if he's Irish. Thank 1169 01:05:29,730 --> 01:05:33,720 you. Because I sit in first class on the train home like at 1170 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:39,210 530 or six o'clock and man some people are toasted toasted in 1171 01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:41,520 first class. Yeah, well, they they don't have first class 1172 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,640 tickets, but they just come in, you know, barge in. And you 1173 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,160 know, and everyone just ignores them, right? No one No one says 1174 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,470 anything. And they're like burping and shouting and farting 1175 01:05:49,470 --> 01:05:52,950 all over the place. And the conductor comes by and he's 1176 01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:55,050 like, he takes one look at him go like I'm gonna fucking deal 1177 01:05:55,050 --> 01:05:57,990 with these bozos. You know, hey, you shouldn't be You shouldn't 1178 01:05:57,990 --> 01:06:02,370 be here, gentleman. Yeah, right. Now, man, wait and wait until we 1179 01:06:02,370 --> 01:06:05,850 get some Liverpool fans on the train. Yeah, that'll be fun. Put 1180 01:06:05,850 --> 01:06:06,870 your beard on son. 1181 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,340 So when I was in Germany, when there's some big soccer match 1182 01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:13,920 with a bunch of Brits today was like it well knows that whatever 1183 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,950 World Cup match or whatever. But it was some big match. And so 1184 01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:20,730 there's a bunch of I was on the one of the trains. And it was 1185 01:06:20,730 --> 01:06:23,790 like, all of a sudden got filled up with a bunch of these British 1186 01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:28,920 footballer fans. A bunch of punks I've ever run into and 1187 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,630 they're all like middle aged. 1188 01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:34,410 Middle Aged hooligans. 1189 01:06:34,890 --> 01:06:37,590 What is the deal with that? I mean, I guess it wasn't like 1190 01:06:37,590 --> 01:06:38,850 they're a bunch of teenagers. 1191 01:06:38,910 --> 01:06:43,110 Well, okay, so now you're understanding why Soccer is the 1192 01:06:43,110 --> 01:06:47,460 biggest sport in the world. It is the common man's sport, you 1193 01:06:47,460 --> 01:06:51,210 are seeing there is a working class still in the UK, I 1194 01:06:51,210 --> 01:06:55,050 believe. And you're seeing it. You know, that's Look, that's 1195 01:06:55,050 --> 01:06:59,370 why you get great players from South America is because any kid 1196 01:06:59,370 --> 01:07:03,360 that dream of any kid is if you can kick this frickin ball, and 1197 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,360 you can get it in that net. And you can do it consistently, you 1198 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:11,220 can become world famous, and you know, et cetera, et cetera. And 1199 01:07:11,340 --> 01:07:14,250 that dream is there. And for these guys, that's that's all 1200 01:07:14,250 --> 01:07:17,700 they really know that the their social community is the club in 1201 01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:21,120 the UK, some of the supporters actually make the decisions 1202 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,020 about what the club has to do. And they have delegates who will 1203 01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:27,960 go into the board of directors meetings and say, All right, you 1204 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,900 can't trade this guy, or you know, we'll basically rip down 1205 01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:37,860 the stadium. No, it's it's a huge, huge cultural thing. And 1206 01:07:37,860 --> 01:07:40,950 that's what you're seeing. And I think it's sad. I think it's a 1207 01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:43,740 sad statement. Everyone can love enjoying sports, but it just 1208 01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:45,660 seems like that's all they've got. 1209 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,250 Yeah, well, it's weird, because although I have to say like, if 1210 01:07:50,250 --> 01:07:53,160 you took a look at American football fans, a lot of them are 1211 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,600 middle aged, too. You know, in fact, it's probably more middle 1212 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,480 aged people who watch you know, the Oakland Raiders, then kids. 1213 01:08:00,510 --> 01:08:04,920 Yeah. And but it's just something worried about running 1214 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,250 into. I mean, you see these guys tearing down your fighting and 1215 01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:10,410 having all these really, I mean that you don't see a lot of 1216 01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:12,510 fights, even though they're nasty looking at the Oakland 1217 01:08:12,510 --> 01:08:14,940 Raiders. I mean, it's not like it isn't in Europe, where 1218 01:08:14,940 --> 01:08:18,030 they're just with a fighting shot, kill each other. And same 1219 01:08:18,030 --> 01:08:21,540 thing in Brazil. I went to the big stadium in Rio once, which 1220 01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:27,660 has a whole 350,000 people on and they have the section for 1221 01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:31,350 the visiting team. And actually, there's like a barbed fence wire 1222 01:08:31,350 --> 01:08:35,040 in the stadium blocking the two sides. So they don't go at each 1223 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:35,610 other. Yeah. Oh, 1224 01:08:35,609 --> 01:08:39,059 yeah. And so they have names like, in Holland, you have F 1225 01:08:39,059 --> 01:08:46,169 side. They call them sides, and you have what do you have? Fuck 1226 01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:49,499 S. I mean, there's, there's all these different they're hooligan 1227 01:08:49,499 --> 01:08:52,469 gangs. But they're really supporters. I don't know. It's 1228 01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:56,370 they're all over 38 years old. It's weird. 1229 01:08:56,700 --> 01:08:59,670 That overexcite and why is it by the way, in the United States, 1230 01:08:59,790 --> 01:09:02,730 when your team wins, you go nuts. You burn up the streets 1231 01:09:02,730 --> 01:09:07,170 and you riot but when, when gas goes to 40 bucks a gallon, we do 1232 01:09:07,170 --> 01:09:09,390 sit at home and smoke. The crack pipe. 1233 01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:15,720 Again, is addressed in my column in MarketWatch. Where I ask, why 1234 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,620 is the public housing Why did the public get to be so passive? 1235 01:09:19,650 --> 01:09:22,620 Yeah, and I think a lot of it has to do with this terrorism 1236 01:09:22,620 --> 01:09:25,350 thing because it got the public scared, if anybody hasn't 1237 01:09:25,350 --> 01:09:28,740 noticed is at the airports. All the US airports have been on 1238 01:09:28,770 --> 01:09:33,030 Orange Alert. For five years straight. It's never moved. The 1239 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:37,200 yellow. It's never moved to red has never moved to green. It's 1240 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,320 been orange. And it's a lot of the posters that say orange 1241 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,820 orange alert. You know, watch out watch your orange alert and 1242 01:09:44,850 --> 01:09:47,790 those signs are printed. They're permanent. There's no way they 1243 01:09:47,790 --> 01:09:50,070 even show up the sign. I was like it's been printed on the 1244 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:53,580 wall Orange Alert. I have this bullshit is this 1245 01:09:53,610 --> 01:09:58,110 Well, I have this, this thing called a drop. You can find it 1246 01:09:58,110 --> 01:10:03,450 at drop.io/ Daily source code. And basically it's a it's kind 1247 01:10:03,450 --> 01:10:06,480 of cool system. Jon's take a look at it, you can, you can 1248 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:09,720 drop any type of media file in there and you literally drop it 1249 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,690 and looks like it kind of turns into a web log. But anyway, 1250 01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:16,590 someone put a PDF file in here, which I've been reading, it's 1251 01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:20,850 about 300 odd pages. I'm just looking for it. Now, of course, 1252 01:10:20,850 --> 01:10:28,560 it's not easy to find. It's a book on authoritarianism and how 1253 01:10:29,250 --> 01:10:33,930 authoritarianism, I think that's the word is less about the 1254 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,220 authorities who are suppressing the people, but more about the 1255 01:10:38,490 --> 01:10:41,820 the attitude of the people who are allowing themselves to be 1256 01:10:44,010 --> 01:10:45,000 authority sized. 1257 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:49,800 Well, that mean, the classic work on authoritarianism is done 1258 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,820 by a guy named TW Adorno. And I believe is his book. I think 1259 01:10:53,820 --> 01:10:56,550 there's two volumes of it. It's something called I think, I 1260 01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:58,380 don't know, remember, the Taleb I think is maybe just 1261 01:10:58,380 --> 01:11:02,160 authoritarianism. But this book was written as a definitive work 1262 01:11:02,190 --> 01:11:08,280 sociology, probably around 1940 to 19, maybe right after World 1263 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:14,910 War Two and one of the two in the 40s. For sure. And it's it 1264 01:11:14,910 --> 01:11:18,240 outlines most of this in fact, I use this book as a when I was in 1265 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,630 college, I read that first Reddit. It's actually quite 1266 01:11:21,630 --> 01:11:23,730 interesting, but authoritarianism was quite, 1267 01:11:24,330 --> 01:11:30,360 quite the thing. But I'm not sure exactly why we have. I 1268 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,760 guess, it's completely out of control in this country, because 1269 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,220 nobody protests anything. And then when they do protest, it's 1270 01:11:35,220 --> 01:11:38,820 just a bunch of whack jobs, protesting marine recruiting 1271 01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:42,600 centres, and things like that, you know, and moaning about not 1272 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,840 having enough bike lanes, that kind of thing. It's 1273 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,580 unbelievable. Oh, we need more bike lanes? Yeah, that'll do it, 1274 01:11:50,580 --> 01:11:53,040 that's going to change things that'll get us out of a rack. 1275 01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:59,970 I wish I could find this thing. But it seems like there is a 1276 01:12:00,030 --> 01:12:04,200 theory, a theory out there as to why we're doing this and why 1277 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,800 we're so passive and why we're just not getting up. And I can 1278 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,580 feel it. You know, when I, when I reach out and say, This is 1279 01:12:11,580 --> 01:12:16,350 what my show has become my daily show, daily source code.com. And 1280 01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:19,290 people are starting to wake up, you know, the saying, 1281 01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:23,550 Oh, they're not waking up to people that listen to your show, 1282 01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:24,120 maybe 1283 01:12:24,150 --> 01:12:26,910 well, that's two more than than have woken up from your show. In 1284 01:12:26,910 --> 01:12:28,410 fact, your show puts them to sleep. 1285 01:12:30,210 --> 01:12:36,690 I keep my shows short. Puts them this way. Anyway, there is an 1286 01:12:36,690 --> 01:12:38,970 issue here. But I again, I moaned about this. And one of 1287 01:12:38,970 --> 01:12:41,820 the things that I mentioned this column, which is you should read 1288 01:12:41,820 --> 01:12:44,460 because it's pretty funny. I wrote it actually, I was 1289 01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:46,350 figuring it wasn't gonna get this combed until I got back to 1290 01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:50,910 the States. Because, you know, it was like, you leave Korea at 1291 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:58,020 Friday afternoon. And you get home Friday morning. 1292 01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:01,470 So, yeah, mine mindfuck. 1293 01:13:02,099 --> 01:13:04,769 You know, it's like, what, but anyway, I was gonna get home in 1294 01:13:04,769 --> 01:13:07,499 time to write the column for MarketWatch. But I woke up that 1295 01:13:07,499 --> 01:13:11,729 morning, and I read this thing about AIG going, you know, I 1296 01:13:11,729 --> 01:13:14,879 just got angry about the fact that nobody's complaining enough 1297 01:13:14,879 --> 01:13:18,119 about these rating agencies. And then I started on a rant about 1298 01:13:18,119 --> 01:13:21,629 nobody complains about these bank charges and, and 18% 1299 01:13:21,629 --> 01:13:26,189 interest rates, which used to be illegal. And these pay, get 1300 01:13:26,489 --> 01:13:29,189 cashing these check cashing places that will give you an 1301 01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:31,529 advance on your paycheck. And then they have, you know, 1302 01:13:31,529 --> 01:13:34,739 essentially loan shark rates, and all this other stuff that's 1303 01:13:34,739 --> 01:13:38,429 going on appeal or whatever, you know, it's just too bad. And the 1304 01:13:38,429 --> 01:13:40,769 government's not doing anything about they're in bed with these 1305 01:13:40,769 --> 01:13:44,489 people. It's unbelievable to me that no, well, you know, that's 1306 01:13:44,489 --> 01:13:48,299 just the way it is. I know. It's like terrorists. There's we got 1307 01:13:48,299 --> 01:13:50,339 to somebody, you know, the terror, we have to be careful 1308 01:13:50,339 --> 01:13:52,469 what the terrorists alert 1309 01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:57,480 or does the authoritarians by Bob altameyer, Associate 1310 01:13:57,480 --> 01:13:59,700 Professor, Department of Psychology University of 1311 01:13:59,700 --> 01:14:00,900 Manitoba, Winnipeg. 1312 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,260 That gave me the title. It's called the authoritarian 1313 01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:06,810 society, by tw Adorno. 1314 01:14:06,990 --> 01:14:11,640 Yeah, he actually references that here is that being. But 1315 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,060 what he's trying to do as he's trying to just, of course, with 1316 01:14:15,060 --> 01:14:17,520 any book, I'm making this for the common guys, so you can 1317 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,640 understand this incredibly complex crap, I'm trying to 1318 01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,240 smack down on you. But he does a pretty good job. And it's been a 1319 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,910 it's been an interesting, interesting read. And he also 1320 01:14:26,910 --> 01:14:29,760 has some solutions at the end, you know, here's what we can do 1321 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,050 to stop ourselves from being authoritarian. 1322 01:14:34,410 --> 01:14:37,320 Oh, wait, wait, I'm sorry, is the authoritarian personality by 1323 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,030 tw dornod. Anyway, go ahead. 1324 01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:42,540 It's interesting, because I think there's something there. 1325 01:14:44,340 --> 01:14:47,730 There's something wrong with everything. Well, so you know, 1326 01:14:47,730 --> 01:14:49,560 people you know, I think there's going to be also a point where 1327 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,230 you start there's a build up because people know that they're 1328 01:14:52,230 --> 01:14:55,230 being scammed or ripped off. I mean, people are going you know, 1329 01:14:55,230 --> 01:14:57,390 getting somebody's credit card companies, the credit card 1330 01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:59,310 companies get go out of their way and they get Congress to 1331 01:14:59,310 --> 01:15:02,700 change the bank. cripsy laws so when you go bankrupt in the 1332 01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:04,770 United States now where you're supposed to have all your debts 1333 01:15:04,770 --> 01:15:08,340 forgiven or have reorganised though the credit card companies 1334 01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:10,770 are completely out of that loop you still have to pay them even 1335 01:15:10,770 --> 01:15:14,040 if you you know you're in a bankrupt situation. It's um it's 1336 01:15:14,130 --> 01:15:17,370 ridiculous because the credit card companies are have part of 1337 01:15:17,370 --> 01:15:19,500 the reason people end up going bankrupt. 1338 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,410 And in Brazil is really bad. Did you get that note? 1339 01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:30,750 Well, you know, by the way, you're talking 220% 1340 01:15:30,750 --> 01:15:32,370 interest on credit cards in Brazil. 1341 01:15:33,390 --> 01:15:37,050 Well, nobody uses them. The end and the guy who was somebody 1342 01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:39,600 wrote me I haven't followed up on this but they they said 1343 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,210 that's bull that crap. Did you have to bite the house with 1344 01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:44,880 cash? Oh, really? Yeah. 1345 01:15:46,980 --> 01:15:48,810 Well, I got a couple people confirming it. 1346 01:15:49,410 --> 01:15:51,390 Yeah, they're probably Americans. Maybe they bought 1347 01:15:51,390 --> 01:15:53,820 their house with cash, but I've got people that I'll get the 1348 01:15:53,970 --> 01:15:56,280 scoop on it. I just haven't followed up enough. I guess 1349 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,500 we'll get the whole real story but his boy it doesn't make 1350 01:15:58,500 --> 01:15:59,100 sense. 1351 01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:05,850 I don't know man. I don't make up the news. 1352 01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:12,270 Nobody other people do. Anyway, okay, so what else do we have to 1353 01:16:12,270 --> 01:16:12,900 complain about? 1354 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,290 Um, let's see. I think I had something written down here. 1355 01:16:17,610 --> 01:16:23,910 Freeze? No, actually. Yeah. How was that we got a nasty gramme. 1356 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,510 Didn't we? Someone I didn't get? I got a couple of nasty grammes 1357 01:16:30,510 --> 01:16:33,240 about people saying we're harping too much on people who 1358 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,040 don't eat meat, but I think they're kind of missing the 1359 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:35,460 point. 1360 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,660 When do we harp on people not eating meat? Well, that's what 1361 01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:42,630 I mean. That's why they're missing the point well, because 1362 01:16:43,410 --> 01:16:46,200 we both agree that meat is good for you. And there's a lot of 1363 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,060 people out there saying that meat is bad for you. 1364 01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:52,680 Let's because these guys are you know, they mean I'm sure that a 1365 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,900 lot of meat isn't good for you and if you eat too much of it 1366 01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:57,960 can't be great. I mean, eating too much of anything but these 1367 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,920 me anti meat people you know just today shouldn't be 1368 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:02,910 listening to this show. 1369 01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,530 Does that mean vegetarians as well or just anti meat people in 1370 01:17:07,530 --> 01:17:07,950 general 1371 01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:11,280 I you know, vegetarians that you know, I can I can put up with a 1372 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,190 certain amount of it. As long as you're not pushy. 1373 01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:17,790 I just heard many many iPods drop 1374 01:17:23,490 --> 01:17:24,870 so what you got coming up this week? 1375 01:17:27,420 --> 01:17:30,600 A couple of lunches and I don't know Not much. I think it's 1376 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,580 pretty gonna be pretty slow week. I'm trying to catch up 1377 01:17:32,580 --> 01:17:37,320 with some stuff. Put together book proposal try to finish my 1378 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:43,440 depressions book. And now we're doing a pilot for with Becky 1379 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:46,350 Warley. That's still happening or not. Yeah, it's on Thursday. 1380 01:17:46,350 --> 01:17:47,940 We're going to do something. We're going to work on something 1381 01:17:47,940 --> 01:17:52,260 then and then we'll have that finished. And I really liked the 1382 01:17:52,260 --> 01:17:52,680 idea. I 1383 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:53,520 think it's going to be good. 1384 01:17:54,330 --> 01:17:58,140 I think so. And it's it's going to be an editing thing. And 1385 01:17:59,070 --> 01:18:03,240 that's about it. I think. You know, it's gonna be the same old 1386 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:03,930 boring week. 1387 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,640 You got to cranky geeks on Wednesday. 1388 01:18:06,059 --> 01:18:08,999 Yeah, gotta cranky geeks. We're gonna get a guest lined up yet, 1389 01:18:08,999 --> 01:18:12,899 but we'll have was trying to do too, because I'm the first week 1390 01:18:12,899 --> 01:18:15,299 of June. I gotta be in New York on a Wednesday. So 1391 01:18:17,970 --> 01:18:20,760 we got a big party here on Tuesday. It's the big 1392 01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:25,470 introduction of the company to the press. Oh, really? Yeah. 1393 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,650 British Telecom is putting together it's like a really big 1394 01:18:28,650 --> 01:18:32,430 deal shortage house. It's going to be wall to wall celebrities 1395 01:18:32,430 --> 01:18:33,390 from the underground and 1396 01:18:33,390 --> 01:18:34,680 you should have flown me over for that. I 1397 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,350 should have Yeah, but guess what? Didn't. 1398 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,210 I noticed? I need another long flight. Like a hole in the head. 1399 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,810 Yeah, I can No, no. Like you. They really actually enjoys, you 1400 01:18:45,810 --> 01:18:48,030 know, 10 hour flights back and forth, and back and forth. 1401 01:18:48,090 --> 01:18:50,880 Well, it's been good, man. I think I'm gonna be here for 1402 01:18:51,210 --> 01:18:54,690 hopefully the rest of the month at least. You said that the last 1403 01:18:54,690 --> 01:18:56,970 time? Yes. Yeah. And then the next day I was in front of your 1404 01:18:56,970 --> 01:19:01,470 doorstep? Pretty much. Yeah. No, no, it's, it's good. We got a 1405 01:19:01,470 --> 01:19:04,230 lot going on over here. So you know, that needs attention to. 1406 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,900 That's right. So Okay. Well, I think we're wrapping up. We got 1407 01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:13,140 our 80 minutes in more than enough. Is that 1408 01:19:13,170 --> 01:19:18,000 is that actually, holy crap. Okay. Well, we usually were 1409 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,550 looking for a theme. I don't think we had a theme this this 1410 01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:21,300 week actually 1411 01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:22,680 complaining. 1412 01:19:24,810 --> 01:19:26,640 Oh, yeah, we gotta come up with a name for the show. 1413 01:19:27,090 --> 01:19:28,500 Oh, the complaint department. 1414 01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:36,450 Yes. May I take your number, please? Next. All right. So 1415 01:19:36,450 --> 01:19:39,690 maybe we'll get some more Korea stories out here next week after 1416 01:19:39,690 --> 01:19:47,220 you've processed it. Could be okay. Coming to you from the 1417 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,210 curry Manor, where it is still nice and toasty hot on a 1418 01:19:51,210 --> 01:19:53,670 Saturday afternoon and five minutes to seven. I'm Adam 1419 01:19:53,670 --> 01:19:54,150 curry. 1420 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,850 And I'm John C. Dvorak where it's just warming up here in 1421 01:19:56,850 --> 01:19:57,900 northern California. 1422 01:19:58,050 --> 01:20:01,230 And we'll talk to you again next week right here. I know agenda