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Hey, John. What? That would have
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actually recorded. You're
kidding me. I'm not kidding you.

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Were still on the stream by the
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Well, maybe somebody out there
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why I'm still on the stream. I
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this show. I can't Well, you'll

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find out shortly. That's pretty
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No, it's that's like par for the
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Yeah, well, it sounds like it.
Well, maybe somebody recorded

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and we can run the recording. I
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eventually.

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Oh my god. I feel like such a
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he hasn't recorded sending it.
Oh my god, I love you. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak. This
December 16 2009. Time here

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Gitmo nation media assassination
episode 157. This is no agenda

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scanning the C span
transmissions for The Real News

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because we can and coming to you
from the minimum security

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containment sell crackpot
command centre and Gitmo nation

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West San Francisco, California
in the morning. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I thought it was the 16th

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last week. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Dragwon Buzzkill.

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You're gonna try and look all
smug and stuff. About what that

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I missed up to date on the last
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Oh, you did a really good

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morning to you, John. Morning.
Everybody on the stream and in

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the chat room. No agenda
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chat.com. For those of you who
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twice a week. Usually around
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Time Gitmo nation West. A little
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the early service, but even even
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other you know, I had had to
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morning.

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We have an executive producer
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rolling on APL we have our old
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Oh, that's a Dutch friend. Is he
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Right. Cool.

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He decided to give us a
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deal. Number just in case just

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in case someone else came in,
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much, Steve. Is that the only
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Yeah. And and he says because I
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pronounce his name pronounce his
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thing?

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You're doing a very good job.
Steven, congratulations, you are

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the executive producer of no
agenda, Episode 157. Please feel

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free to put that on your resume
use us as a reference. It's a it

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really does look good as a
credit, right, underneath candy

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striper. But seriously, you
know, people take note of this

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stuff, and they know what it
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you're in media, and and you've
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and we appreciate the support.
It's always good to have a

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recurring executive producer on
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So there's a bunch of
interesting news this week. In

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fact, I was like all over the
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And I'm sure you're gonna roll
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you because I've already seen
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A lot. This was I don't have any
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clip related. But there's a
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cover this Cory Doctorow, if
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who is kind of caught up to an
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thinks some Spanish aspects to
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especially the fair use and
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Is he is he a proponent of the
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licence? Yeah, he's

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one of those guys. And he's also
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know, public domain being what
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now, which is non existent.

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Thanks to the Disney
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of them, but everybody jumped on
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latest thing and you're gonna
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is that apparently Canada is
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adopt some scribble majors that
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copyright law to such an extreme
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provision for the most ludicrous
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things to an extreme. If I have
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there's some aspects of this,
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you create content like we do
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it becomes something you can use
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and sell it. But let's say I
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I sell you a book. Whatever it
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get it out of the way. So I
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it's my property and resell

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know what? It's now you have to
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and give them a royalty on the
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where you weren't and I remember
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and mp3 is came out. And it was
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if I buy a CD, and I play that
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then I take it to a swap meet
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to give it away, or if I want to
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property. I bought it. And I
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smooth, smooth slyly kind of
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well, you know, you don't
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just renting it and everyone
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know, he cared, right, we had
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playing it and we weren't
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with a digital, you could not
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This all began in the 70s. Late
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the This began with a software
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Rubinstein Shima Rubenstein, who
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among other products, had
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ironclad licencing agreement.
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about this over the years. And
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day, in the distant, not too
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future, everything would be
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television shows that you watch.
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can't because you're licenced it
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one backup for personal use,
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against that too, by the way. So
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licenced evolved into the shrink
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which is, which is that Terms of
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open up a CD used to be
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end user agreement that is on a
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open the package, you have

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accepted it? Yes, you are now
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I always get I always say have
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because they're not bound by the
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like, that's gonna help. John C.
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Tip of the Day. So the this
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service agreements that are on
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phone rings right now. And I'm
gonna go hang up. But the terms

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of service agreement became law
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to go to workout org slash blog
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there, you'll find one of the
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have all kinds of weird stuff in
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And now as I'm actually reading
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terms of your legal agreement.

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Yes. Which means you can't
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then great, crazy thing about
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the websites is that most of
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most of them say that I can
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you're bound by the changes, or
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didn't agree to them in the
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place. Where do I find your
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I think you can go
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I'll do that. We'll go on in the
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show notes. But anyway, so
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know, just gets more and more
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complain about it. And so the
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situation evolving where you,
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ownership of anything and right,
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extreme but just licenced your
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you know, I should We should
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there's a whole licence
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opening this underwear, you are
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service and you can give it to
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Sexual requirements in there, by
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one's done that yet. But anyway,
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the Canadians, apparently I
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this is, or whether knowing this
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about the Canadians capitulating
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the EU regarding the Canadian
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somewhat different than
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what the deal is. But I do know
this as we we get very few

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donations from Canada, we got
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Well, this, of course, is all
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actor, which we started talking
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global copyright agreement,
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national No security that the
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release any information about
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trickled through. And we pretty
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be a global three strikes you're
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copyrighted material without
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internet. But, you know, I think
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precursor to censorship, which,
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completely rolled out in
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matter of time before we'll get
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either, because I'm sure we will
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Well, we got none this week.
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the idea is that if you can
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barriers, with copyright law
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everything else in between, and
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information, you can at some
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flow of uncontrolled
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you just the only people that
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would be government agencies and
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much what what mainstream news
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press release, a journalist
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say a news wire picks that up,
usually, there may be a little

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bit of a rewrite, and they'll
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these are quotes that are come
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from the news release. And once
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that will call the organisation
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personal quote. But yeah, that's
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is. And it will be the Ministry
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your news and your information?
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I was once at a meeting with
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professional who was the only
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it. And she says, you know, as
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all the news for the public, and
all you guys do is just

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regurgitate a copy.

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Well, in France now. We've been
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bailouts. Sarko Z. libera. El
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plan that starts this fall so
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should say, giving every 18 to
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nation false get more nation by
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to the newspaper of their
choice. And they say it's to

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stimulate people reading news,
but then if you follow along

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with the with the Waxman
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would be for tax breaks and
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and then we have Gitmo nation
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subsidising 60 young
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many reports of that there was,
man, I should look that up. And

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I should actually translate it
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Netherlands we have not heard
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said yeah, you know, this is
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have a meeting and he actually
took pictures of the secret

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meeting room in the courthouse,
where he would meet with

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government officials, and they
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about either certain legal cases
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interest. I mean, this is and
this has been going on for a

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long time ever since it was it
was it Roosevelt, who, who

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thanked all of the journalists
from Time magazine, etc. You

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know, he met with them basically
Bilderbergers who do this as

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well than in the Bilderberg
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editors from top publications
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never report on it, you know,
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they set the agenda discuss what
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you know, this used to happen
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to have these meetings at one of
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Canal is because the yearly Hood
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Times Wall Street Journal, and
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media publications, and they sit
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of course, these guys all have
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can't take more than $20 in
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meanwhile, they get a you know,
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and the rest of them along with
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which is supposed to be somehow
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scam and they listened to the
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never report on that itself is
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corruption of the nondisclosure
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all media. So they sign off that
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know me well I finally I was
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because I don't exposure. Yeah,
right. sign a nondisclosure if

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I'm like, you know, if I'm a
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but I'm not sure But I won't
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journalist. I mean, it just
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unethical to me, everyone
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that I go out to expensive
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disclosures. I mean, it seems
that's the problem. Anyway, they

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show everyone's eye, but
somebody told me all the

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details. And of course, I wrote
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that was the end of it, it
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let's not underestimate what a
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to home just two nights ago, one
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outstanding investment firm, who
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investments in media, they put
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restaurant here in the city, I'm
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because we actually, I'm sure
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they invited the founders of was
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just let me find the name of
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for Bahco rubato per Bahco P er
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airbender of nice restaurant,
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private room. And they and they
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Time magazine, New York Times
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with a Bloomberg guy by the way.
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stage you'll actually get

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there, but bear with me. Still.
I can see that that Yes. You

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know, it's a staged event. But
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they were treated well, great
food, great wine. If you if you

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want to keep getting the free
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journalist, you're not going to
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just not, you may be critical.
You may have a certain No, I'm

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gonna argue the point. Now I go
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don't go to these group meetings
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with people like to tell tales
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competition, mostly. But the but
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is that there's a corrupt
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all over the place. It has to be
taken into account. But nothing

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to me is more corrupt than the
nondisclosure agreement where

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where somebody signs off on
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meeting, or they can't say they
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As a journalist, I would say
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standard operating procedure.
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Well, based upon that, I think
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between I have at least three
today for the US trash.

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So I'd have to say there were
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which could have been deemed or
can be deemed as the, the media

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distraction of the week. I'll
start with and this just blew me

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away. Actually, the Bloomberg
guy who I had dinner with told

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me about this, and I hadn't
heard about it. He knew nothing

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about Copenhagen, but he knew
about this, Bloomberg.

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Well, he knew nothing about
Copenhagen. Very little.

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He really very, very little. I
was amazed. And I was telling

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him a few things like, hey, you
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little overboard. He was like, I
have to go home and Google some

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stuff right now. I'll see you
later about another set of White

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House. party crashers. Yeah. And
I was amazed by this and like,

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Wow, these guys, you know, they
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Would I actually have a clip of
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trillion spending bill that was
rammed through the house? One

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point, let me just repeat that
$1.2 trillion. And here we are

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talking about Medicare for weeks
on end, which is about as less

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than that, but about the same
amount as proposed. But no one

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as far as I can tell, reported
on this. And there was some real

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discussion going on some angry
congressmen and women. There's a

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lot of pork in this thing to
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And where are we getting this
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Well, hold on a sec. Before we
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could think of myself as Wow,
there was so desperate to

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distract the attention that they
said fuck it, you know that that

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party crasher thing work. Do
that one again. Pull that one

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out quick. Let's do it. Then, of
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Berlusconi,

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by the way in the party crasher
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congressional hearings on that.
And it's a scam, obviously,

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because the White House won't
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that don't.

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executive privilege. The Social
Secretary does not have to speak

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under the executive privilege
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The whole thing is either a scam
or there's something else going

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on. Do you think John? Well, you
know, the other thing that might

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be going on, right, based on
your theories, is the

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possibility that they're going
to keep doing this as you're

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going to have these these, these
people getting close to the

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president at the drop of a hat
as a message from the CIA, to

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Dell Obama that You know, he's
got no protection.

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Well, this is the way of course,
it's being perceived in two

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ways. Many people are scared
saying, wow, you know what, our

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president is unprotected and
others are saying, Hey, if you

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can't even we can't even protect
the president. How can we

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protect the country? You know,
that meme was also discussed at

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the table. Now, of course, we
have a mantra we have an entire

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formula for this programme, not
to be taken literally our

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formula is this. We go out, we
get people in the mouth. So

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Gitmo nation Italia was
listening.

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I know this is a great
distraction, but this is more of

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a European distraction. I think
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it. No, not

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at all. Because no one I mean,
Italy is so engrossed with their

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Prime Minister Silvio
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richest men in the world. He
owns all of the media,

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literally, he owns the media. So
he has a complete lockdown. My

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sister who lives there, Willow,
who is a contributor to the

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programme, says, you know, I
have a theory don't look over

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here theory says up until
Sunday, the main news in Italy,

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was that a pentacle, which is a
mafia turncoat had accused

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Berlusconi and Dell'Utri, which
is one of his Jabra Ionis of

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having very serious mafia
connections, specifically, when

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they entered politics in 93,
when they founded the Forza

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Italia political party, so this
was the top of the news. You

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know, people are really focusing
in and they've been trying to

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get to nail Berlusconi for a
long time and, you know, with

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with illegal campaign
contributions, then all sudden

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he changes the law. So that that
is outside the statute of

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limitations. So he's been real
slippery, he

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has been fantastically slick.
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the he's the Teflon and a prime
minister. So this is top of the

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news. And then all of a sudden,
boom, we get some crazy guy who,

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who threw a statue. Miniature
statue, and I have the footage,

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I put it in the show notes at no
agenda. show.com It's very

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violent. And because most of the
most immediate, you know, has

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kind of like a bunch of people.
I don't really see it, but there

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was I was watching, I think it
was right, you know, and I got a

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clip from there. And you see the
guy. I mean, he throws this

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thing hard. I mean, he busted
his teeth. I mean, it really,

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really hit him. So it's quite a
way to go for immediate

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distraction.

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But pie was better.

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Well, maybe they said, you know,
pie. He's like, what's that? You

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know, it's anyway, our, our
listener there and in Italy,

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Willow asserts that, she says,
Oh, here's what's gonna happen.

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He's gonna go to the hospital.
He's gonna go to the guy's

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parents house, and we'll do a
whole emotional show of how he

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forgives him because of course,
he's mentally ill, and the media

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will be all over it to capture
it. And then he'll be Mr. Good

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guy again. Yeah, turn the other
cheek as it were. So there was

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that distraction? Which,

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yeah, that's a gem if this
should save, especially if it's

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orchestrated, well,

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again, it's quite a ways to go
but you know, these guys will go

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to any, any number of desperate
measures. boskone is the hero of

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hookers and blow. I mean, this
is this is all about that he's a

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party animal. And we had this
Sarkozy call them up and I'm

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sorry, a Putin call him up and
say, Hey, man, you real macho,

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you really stood up to that. And
of course, Putin is the guy who

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has official pictures taken of
himself riding bareback, bare

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chested on a horse. Yeah, on a
wild stallion. While he's

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hunting, he's hunting for
elephants or whatever. And then

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the final one, which completely
blew me away, because you know,

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what is happening today, John,
today in the Senate Finance

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Committee, after the the
hearings in the Senate, the

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Senate Finance Committee will
vote to decide if Ben Bernanke

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should be reelected as the
chairman of the Federal Reserve,

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and what and what happens just
just just one day before all of

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this, Ben Bernanke is announced
as the person of the year on

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Freon for Time Magazine, which
used to be known as the Man of

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the Year is now the Person of
the Year. And if this isn't a an

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orchestrated, perfectly laid out
plan, then I don't know what is,

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of course, it makes total sense
because Ben Bernanke, look at

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the other choices, we could have
chosen Obama, which would have

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been a very logical choice. I
mean, you got a Nobel Peace

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Prize, you might as well throw
him up on the you could have

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chosen Michelle. Michelle would
have been an excellent choice. I

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mean, there's plenty of people
you could have chosen.

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posthumously. Here's something
you could have done, you could

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have put 3000 faces on the cover
of all of our servicemen and

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women who have died in my humble
opinion in vain, fighting

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foreign wars which are senseless
and that have been good. That

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would have been a really good
one. Yeah, one of those big

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collages. is, but no, of course
they choose the actual boss, the

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actual ruler, he is Obama's
boss, they choose Ben Bernanke

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and put him on the cover. It's
That's just unbelievable as as a

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move, that's all that people are
talking about. And you probably

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will only here somewhere next
week just before Christmas when

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no one's really paying any
attention. Oh, he was

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reinstated. And congratulations,
business as usual.

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Well, the guy going after was
Bernie Sanders of Vermont. And

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Bernie's not a guy that we would
agree with on most topics. But

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he's really irked about this
Bernanke guy. So he gave a good

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a big press conference. And he
brought a bunch of people out to

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moan and groan. And I have a
clip from one of the people who

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was a professor, who is a
professor of economics and law,

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and I think he's at University
of Missouri. Absolutely. But

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anyway, he just blasts
printmaking pieces of it if you

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want, but he blasts him for
like, it's just that just a

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broad side. That is like, when
you listen to this, you go, why

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is this guy in this in this
office at all? And you know,

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he's?

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Well, you're you will recall, we
played the 1314 minute clip. I

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believe that was two episodes
ago, of his confirmation

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hearings where he was blasted in
the in the in the committee on C

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span. Yeah. As the guy
responsible for everything.

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agrees with that, even though
he's starting to hear a meme

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that he

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saved it. Oh, we bought us on
the precipice.

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Yeah, we would have been, we
would have been, you know,

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nothing has improved by the way,
unemployment still going up.

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People are dropping them off to
unemployment. Also, the numbers

439
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,700
are really bogus now, but
they're extremely high.

440
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:59,670
Businesses, not good people are
not getting those nothing has

441
00:26:59,670 --> 00:27:03,150
improved one iota. And we don't
know for a fact because there's

442
00:27:03,150 --> 00:27:06,540
no way of doing a double blind
study that if he had done let

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00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:09,300
these big companies fail, the
ones that are too big to fail,

444
00:27:09,330 --> 00:27:12,000
just let them go back bankrupt.
You know, companies go bankrupt

445
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,790
all the time, airlines go
bankrupt. And they stay in

446
00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:17,310
business. It's not like they
disappear off the face of the

447
00:27:17,310 --> 00:27:21,660
earth. But they go through a
process a normal process. But by

448
00:27:21,660 --> 00:27:25,440
bailing all these guys out, is
created probably worse in the

449
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,280
situation.

450
00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:29,550
Did you have a chance to read
the Rolling Stone article that I

451
00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:33,180
posted? Last week, you must read
this because then you will see

452
00:27:33,330 --> 00:27:38,070
how the Obama administration
carefully orchestrated people

453
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:43,620
going in and out in order to
facilitate this huge bailout,

454
00:27:43,950 --> 00:27:47,670
which it, of course, is just a
setup. So everyone gets the

455
00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:51,330
money, go buy it, buy some real
assets, buy some land and

456
00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:55,530
Paraguay, buy some aeroplanes
and boats and buy your house

457
00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:59,730
because you'll be bankrupt and,
and then get ready for the final

458
00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:04,170
collapse, which is imminent, and
is, is probably three years out.

459
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,500
And you know what, let's play
this professor's clip first. And

460
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:10,140
then I want to I want to I want
people to hear what's happening

461
00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:15,030
in in Congress in the house with
this $1.2 trillion that was

462
00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:18,810
spent that no one is talking
about. So here's the professor.

463
00:28:20,849 --> 00:28:25,649
Let me introduce a professor,
Bill Black built from what I've

464
00:28:25,649 --> 00:28:28,229
been asked to be very brief to
give you more time for

465
00:28:28,229 --> 00:28:30,749
questions. So I'm going to
concentrate only on the

466
00:28:30,749 --> 00:28:34,739
regulatory side. First thing
that you need to know is that

467
00:28:34,739 --> 00:28:40,319
the Fed was unique. It had
authority under an act called

468
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:47,519
Hohepa. During this entire time
period, to regulate and prevent

469
00:28:47,729 --> 00:28:53,609
the subprime lending by
otherwise unregulated entities.

470
00:28:53,639 --> 00:28:57,509
These are the mortgage bankers
primarily, that made 80% of the

471
00:28:57,509 --> 00:29:03,689
non prime loans. The Fed under
Greenspan and under Bernanke

472
00:29:03,719 --> 00:29:07,829
refused to use that authority.
And it refused to use that

473
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,149
authority, even though the FBI
warned publicly and

474
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:16,829
congressional testimony
beginning in September 2004,

475
00:29:16,949 --> 00:29:20,759
that there was a quote,
epidemic, unquote, of mortgage

476
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,599
fraud developing and predicted
it would produce a financial

477
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:30,209
crisis unless it was prevented.
And Bernanke is colleague on the

478
00:29:30,209 --> 00:29:34,919
Fed Ned Gramlich personally
warned that there was a housing

479
00:29:34,919 --> 00:29:38,669
bubble of immense proportions
developing and that there were

480
00:29:38,699 --> 00:29:42,149
extraordinary problems in
subprime lending, and that the

481
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:47,459
examiners needed to be sent in.
And this is what the Senator was

482
00:29:47,459 --> 00:29:50,669
just talking about. There was
never a disagreement on

483
00:29:50,669 --> 00:29:55,739
substance between Greenspan and
Bernanke. They were the twins on

484
00:29:55,739 --> 00:30:00,059
these issues. They refuse to
send in the examiners the They

485
00:30:00,059 --> 00:30:03,239
refuse to use their authority
under the statute,

486
00:30:03,450 --> 00:30:06,900
certainly be enough for people
to understand that this is

487
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:10,890
intentional, and then it's set
up. And I think we just might

488
00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:13,680
want to remind people that the
Federal Reserve, even though it

489
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,620
has, we've said this so many
times, even though it has a

490
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:22,950
governmental sounding name, that
it is a group, a conglomerate, a

491
00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:27,000
cabal, it's a profit make, I
think it is, I think it actually

492
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,540
is a for profit organisation
that is made up of private

493
00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:35,610
banks. And they have groups of
banks, groups of banks, and by

494
00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:39,840
the way, an unpublished list,
they don't even, they're not

495
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,260
even transparent enough to let
us know who actually are in this

496
00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:53,100
Cabal. And their entire job is
to make money. And the way you

497
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,980
make money, people just kind of
can't understand, and we don't

498
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:57,990
have time on this show to get
into it. I don't think we could

499
00:30:57,990 --> 00:31:00,810
even explain it. But there's
plenty of YouTube videos out

500
00:31:00,810 --> 00:31:05,160
there that do a pretty good job
is that when a bank lends you

501
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,870
money, so when if a bank, if a
bank is you, John C. Dvorak, a

502
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:15,780
mortgage for $100,000, which
pretty much about covers the

503
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:21,240
value of your home, as I've seen
it, they actually then on their

504
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,220
books can create, it's an asset,
they can then lend out another

505
00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:32,310
$900,000 to other people. And
this is how the system works.

506
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:35,460
And because it's a closed loop,
all of these banks communicate

507
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:38,730
through the Central Bank, which
is the Federal Reserve and other

508
00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:41,040
countries, it's called the
central bank. But that's exactly

509
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,490
what it is. This is how they
control the entire financial

510
00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:48,060
system. And this is what you
know, is is not taught in

511
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:53,220
school, obviously, for very good
reason. Because Ooh, boy, no one

512
00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:57,120
would want to catch on to their
scam. But this is this is how it

513
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,570
works and and they've enrich
themselves and their friends.

514
00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:04,290
And they've all been in
positions of bankers. So

515
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:07,860
Bernanke was the CEO of Goldman
Sachs, you know, who's winning

516
00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:10,620
right now, who is doing
fantastically well, Goldman

517
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:13,740
Sachs? You can look at it
however you want. But

518
00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:17,820
coincidence? I think not. It's
just not that you have to

519
00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:22,260
understand in general, in
principle, all people are very

520
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:26,850
good. And all people can be very
bad. And sometimes the bad

521
00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:31,530
overshadows the rest. And it's
the cycle, the bad is now in

522
00:32:31,530 --> 00:32:36,150
power. Do you want to do more of
this? Professor? Yeah, he's

523
00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:37,890
got another point. That's even
more interesting.

524
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:43,470
Go forward in time. It is, I
think, no secret that the

525
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:46,620
Chamber of Commerce is not
exactly a friend of the Obama

526
00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:49,800
administration. And the
President has just said that he

527
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,680
wasn't elected to represent Fat
Cat bankers. Ben Bernanke is the

528
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,600
person who delivered for the fat
cat bankers in the form of the

529
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,210
APA, the American Bankers
Association. Wow.

530
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,610
That's the link you sent me
right about the American Bankers

531
00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:09,270
Association. Yeah, yeah. We'll
talk about that in a second.

532
00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:14,070
And for the Chamber of Commerce,
because what they desperately

533
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:22,290
wanted, and what Ben Bernanke
signalled approval for picking

534
00:33:22,290 --> 00:33:26,220
up even their talking points,
and the language he used was to

535
00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:33,570
gut the accounting rules this
year. And so now banks don't

536
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:38,820
have to recognise losses. So
what do they do they report that

537
00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:43,650
they're highly profitable, and
that produces immense executive

538
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:51,960
bonuses. We have lied at the
behest of entities that are

539
00:33:52,020 --> 00:33:55,860
completely repugnant to the
administration, supposedly, and

540
00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:58,080
yet the administration seeks to
reappoint

541
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:02,850
Yeah. Yeah, that that is
fascinating. Because the article

542
00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:05,790
you sent me, John, and that's
actually listed for those

543
00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:10,500
because the links are so long,
that's actually listed under the

544
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,980
Divorce Act links heading in the
shownotes. No agenda show.com

545
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:19,680
called naming the enemy where
the National People's Action,

546
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,120
who I guess every every spring,
they go out and they organise

547
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,450
and they go protest something,
you know, these are very smart,

548
00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:32,160
smart protesters, because while
everyone is looking at, you

549
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,560
know, people like Ken, what's
his name? Was the City Bank guy?

550
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:39,660
Yeah, the City Bank guy,

551
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:42,600
Ken Lewis, you know, and
everyone's and the media

552
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:48,480
distraction is about the golden
toilets. Yes. That's, that's

553
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,540
actually that really is gutter
journalism. So everyone's

554
00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:55,650
talking about you know, the
bankers pooping on gold toilets.

555
00:34:55,890 --> 00:34:58,710
The true evil is, is being

556
00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:04,440
ignored.

557
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,050
While Yeah, the true evil is
being ignored. That would be the

558
00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:10,740
American Bankers Association, in
particular, a guy named Ed

559
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:14,700
Yingling. And so now they're
going to protest on his front

560
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:16,350
lawn which is appropriate. And
yeah.

561
00:35:16,350 --> 00:35:19,140
Which is why, by the way that
Goldman Sachs which is also

562
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:22,440
received Goldman Sachs had a big
A, almost as many Goldman Sachs

563
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,170
executives are being targeted by
these, these,

564
00:35:26,070 --> 00:35:28,260
which is why they've all
registered handguns. Yeah,

565
00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:29,670
they're all what they're,
they're armed to

566
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:31,290
the teeth, because they think
they're gonna get their houses

567
00:35:31,290 --> 00:35:34,890
are going to be stormed. And by
the way, it's always a

568
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:37,830
possibility, I would be armed to
the teeth, too. If I was a

569
00:35:37,830 --> 00:35:40,560
Goldman Sachs guy, I'd have more
than a few handguns and a couple

570
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,100
of shotguns. And I have a bunch
of security guards around my

571
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,110
place. And I wouldn't let the
kids go out alone.

572
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:51,000
You know, I got a quick note
from one of our producers. I'm

573
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,170
on and he said, so I'm at work
eight miles away from the

574
00:35:55,170 --> 00:36:00,420
Miramar bass. I just saw to
transport helicopters, Chinooks,

575
00:36:00,690 --> 00:36:05,310
three F fifteens, a stealth
bomber and an AC 130. fly

576
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:08,670
overhead. My guess is they came
up from Camp Pendleton on the

577
00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:11,940
way to the Miramar base, there
is a tremendous amount. And

578
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:14,580
there's lots of reports about
this a tremendous amount of

579
00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:18,750
troop movements in the United
States in particular in the

580
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:23,880
Republic of California. And
there are many out there and I

581
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,030
unfortunately, I have to
subscribe to it, that are

582
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:31,650
thinking that you know there is
an actual worry amongst the

583
00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:36,030
government unreported that we
could get some form of real

584
00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:39,840
public disorder because people
are really hungry and pissed

585
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,440
off.

586
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,880
Yeah, well, that's been going on
for a while, you know, the

587
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,850
public is pissed off, but they
they're not. You know, they're

588
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,790
the problem is that people that
that have orchestrated

589
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:54,840
demonstrations tend to be
socialists, just straight up.

590
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:58,860
And they don't have, they don't
get a good response to the

591
00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:02,880
public at large. Because when
you start digging around, you're

592
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,490
fine. They're always part of the
world's worker party, which

593
00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:09,990
really wants to overthrow the
government completely, and

594
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:13,710
replace it with a Hugo Chavez
character and that kind of

595
00:37:13,710 --> 00:37:18,690
thing. So it doesn't really do
that we've managed to divide and

596
00:37:18,690 --> 00:37:20,790
conquer. And I've been watching
a couple of different left

597
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:24,330
wingers now and listening to
their complaints about things in

598
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:26,850
the end, if you go to the
complete right wing to the Tea

599
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:30,240
Party, folks, and then you go to
the left wing to this, you know,

600
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,560
the progressive, the most left
wing of the progressives, they

601
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,230
actually if you start listening
to him, they're both have the

602
00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:41,610
same complaint. Yeah, it's
almost identical except for the

603
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,610
stuff the middling things, the
stuff in the middle, there's a

604
00:37:44,610 --> 00:37:47,730
bunch of stuff in the middle
that they disagree on

605
00:37:47,730 --> 00:37:51,030
completely. But this stuff, the
big picture stuff, the big

606
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:54,240
economic issues, the corruption
and all this kind of things are

607
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,300
in total agreement with amazing
to me, but they got it we've got

608
00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:00,990
to divide and conquer approach
that's been beautifully

609
00:38:00,990 --> 00:38:04,290
executed. And these groups never
talked to each other. If they do

610
00:38:04,290 --> 00:38:07,140
that. They're throwing fists,
because they're throwing fists

611
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:10,770
over, you know, abortion rights
or right to life, or some of

612
00:38:10,770 --> 00:38:15,750
these, you know, crazy things in
the middle that really are

613
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:19,170
separating the two groups so
that you come up with climate's

614
00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:22,740
another one they've progressive
far left. They're big believers

615
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:27,120
in the climate thing. And the
ones on the right, hate they

616
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,110
think is bogus. But they both
agree that cap and trade is bad,

617
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,600
but they can't get together on
this. I find it fascinating that

618
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,530
we have this dichotomous and
it's in a set up by the by the

619
00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:41,730
right wing ideologues and output
Rush Limbaugh in that group who

620
00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:45,240
have a checklist. And there they
have a checklist of what you

621
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,210
have to believe in as a
conservative. And this checklist

622
00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:51,240
is extremely rigid, which is
very unconservative. Like if you

623
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,360
think about it, is extremely
rigid, you have to bid and if

624
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,720
you're not part of it, you're
near a rhino, a Republican in

625
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,110
name only, or some other, you
know, some other, you know,

626
00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:04,710
moniker thrown at you to
indicate you're less than a rib,

627
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:05,220
you know,

628
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:08,250
because I would have to make
make no Make no mistake Rush

629
00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:10,950
Limbaugh is on board with the
programme. I mean, he's he's

630
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:15,150
part of the divide and conquer
or what is often called the left

631
00:39:15,150 --> 00:39:18,780
right paradigm, where you just
have people fighting over stuff

632
00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:21,960
all the time. And meanwhile,
it's business as usual. And the

633
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,410
stealing and The corruption
continues and this is not unique

634
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:29,220
to the United States. I it's,
it's pretty much

635
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,020
goes way back.

636
00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:36,960
So do you want to hear a little
bit of Representative John

637
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,410
Culberson and it was it was
interesting because I got this

638
00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:44,700
new iPhone app, the C span
iPhone app. I'm so happy with

639
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:47,910
this. All they need is a little
record button. Oh my god, that

640
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:51,570
would be perfect. So you can get
C span one, C span two and then

641
00:39:51,570 --> 00:39:55,290
C span radio. So I'm listening.
Yesterday morning as I'm

642
00:39:55,290 --> 00:39:58,350
shaving. It's like it was like
830 and of course it's lit later

643
00:39:58,350 --> 00:40:01,740
on the East Coast. And I Hear
this guy go off and like holy

644
00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:06,810
crap. And I have to say, thank
God for C span. So I went to the

645
00:40:06,810 --> 00:40:11,880
website and the entire 10 hours
of debate over this $1.2

646
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,910
trillion spending bill, which is
disguised as salaries and

647
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:22,560
clothing for our troops fighting
wars overseas. But there's a

648
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,350
whole bunch of you know, all of
a sudden, there's like all kinds

649
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:27,510
of other things in there. You
know, I read through the bill,

650
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:30,720
of course, because you can now
you can download it. But that

651
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:34,050
wasn't the case when they
started this. When they started

652
00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:37,500
this debate, in fact, it was
completely the opposite of the

653
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,980
transparency that the Obama
administration promised this and

654
00:40:41,010 --> 00:40:43,170
this is not quite as long as
your professor clip It's a

655
00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:46,320
little long. But listen to this
guy go off telling it straight

656
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,550
up as it is. Forget about what's
in the bill. Just listen to how

657
00:40:51,090 --> 00:40:55,200
our representatives are working
and what they have to do. And

658
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,340
what it's related to

659
00:40:56,429 --> 00:40:58,709
one of the most fiscally
conservative members of the

660
00:40:58,709 --> 00:41:02,669
House, Mr. Culberson, how much
time does the gentleman yield

661
00:41:03,479 --> 00:41:06,689
such time as he may concern?
Thank you, gentleman from Texas

662
00:41:06,689 --> 00:41:07,499
is recognised.

663
00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:12,450
Speaker was to slow down for
just a minute and think about

664
00:41:12,450 --> 00:41:17,820
what is happening here today.
The house is scheduled to vote

665
00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:25,800
today on a package of four
massive bills spending over 1.1

666
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,920
trillion hard earned tax
dollars,

667
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,260
which of course is not true
because we don't actually have

668
00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:32,700
the money. But that's aside

669
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:36,990
that will be paid for by
additional debt that our

670
00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:42,330
children must repay. Worst of
all, these bills were only

671
00:41:42,330 --> 00:41:44,940
posted on the Internet last
night to the American people to

672
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:50,430
see about 11 o'clock. So
literally 13 hours for the

673
00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:54,630
public, for the taxpayers, for
the members of Congress to read

674
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:58,770
these bills, spending over
1000 $100 trillion.

675
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:03,990
Interesting he misspeaks there
because it'd be 1001. One $100

676
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:08,130
billion? Not Yeah. But you
remember what the promise was?

677
00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:10,980
Don't you John, the promise was
everything would be posted for a

678
00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:14,610
few days or whatever, two hours?
Yeah, so he brings this up

679
00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:15,750
correctly. And I'm

680
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,960
scouted around now Madam
Speaker. I'm scouted around

681
00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:22,740
Madam Speaker. And they're the
only copy of the bill before us

682
00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:26,010
defence bill that anybody can
find is the one up there on the

683
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:29,700
clerk's desk. These bills were
put up on the internet 13 hours

684
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:33,630
ago, they're not even outside in
the house lobby. And it's always

685
00:42:33,780 --> 00:42:36,210
tradition at an absolute
minimum, that members of

686
00:42:36,210 --> 00:42:39,360
Congress would be able to
physically read the bill outside

687
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:41,520
in the lobby. But this is all I
found.

688
00:42:41,610 --> 00:42:44,940
So so let me see holds up an
empty cardboard box. So let me

689
00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:49,110
just reiterate what's happening
here. that Congress is debating

690
00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:53,190
a bill which includes all kinds
of new additions, which is known

691
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:57,780
as pork. It's all been put into
this bill which the members of

692
00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:00,570
the House who are about to
debate this and subsequently

693
00:43:00,570 --> 00:43:04,350
vote on it have not been able to
read it has been withheld from

694
00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:04,620
them.

695
00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:10,410
It's empty box outside the lobby
as all we have before us today.

696
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:18,120
1000 $100 trillion spent in a
little over 12 hours. Why the

697
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,830
rush? Why now this

698
00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:22,170
is the good one. So of course,
the question is, why do we have

699
00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:25,500
to do this? You know, this is a
lot of money. It's very

700
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:29,280
important because it is about
supplying our troops. Of course,

701
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,110
there's all kinds of other
stuff. And the debate is

702
00:43:31,110 --> 00:43:34,230
fantastic. If you have 10 hours,
I listened to about six of it.

703
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:37,980
Are we rushing to do this. So
Speaker Pelosi can catch a plane

704
00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:47,400
to Copenhagen, we're spending
$1.1 trillion on top of the 6.7

705
00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:51,330
trillion that this liberal
majority has already spent this

706
00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:56,250
year. That means in the course
of 12 months. This liberal

707
00:43:56,250 --> 00:44:00,810
majority in Congress has already
spent in this house nearly $8

708
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:05,430
trillion in 12 months. It's
unprecedented it is

709
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:09,300
unsupportable it will bankrupt
this nation, and crush our

710
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:14,790
children under a burden of debt
that they cannot possibly repay.

711
00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:19,710
without crushing tax burdens and
massive sacrifices. We may be

712
00:44:19,830 --> 00:44:23,640
the first generation in American
history that leaves our children

713
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:29,040
worse off than we than then the
world we inherited from our

714
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,950
parents. It's just unacceptable
and outrageous. And as my

715
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:37,200
colleague representative Brian
Baird and I, Madam Speaker

716
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,230
introduced legislation earlier
this year, to require the house

717
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:45,150
to lay these bills out every
bill for at least 72 hours

718
00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:49,440
before they can be voted on on
the floor. And I just want to

719
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,010
ask the speaker a simple
question. What's more important

720
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,820
given the American people time
to read these bills to give the

721
00:44:56,820 --> 00:45:00,570
members of Congress time to read
these bills or to catch an

722
00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:03,540
aeroplane to a global warming
conference, that's really what's

723
00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:04,590
going on here today.

724
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:09,300
And so of course, I googled
that. And lo and behold, and of

725
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:12,810
course, this is also in the show
notes. US House Speaker Nancy

726
00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:16,650
Pelosi will lead a 21 member
congressional delegation to the

727
00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:21,960
United Nations sponsored meeting
in Copenhagen. And she says, Oh,

728
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,790
yes, you gotta love it. We see
Copenhagen as a meeting about

729
00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:33,540
job creation, jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

730
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,660
Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. I don't
get all that all that? Do you

731
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:45,390
hear that? What's happening? Do
you hear the whole world using

732
00:45:45,390 --> 00:45:50,040
this jobs mean? Do you hear that
listeners? It's how we move

733
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,010
forward to create millions of
clean energy jobs and new

734
00:45:53,010 --> 00:45:59,760
technologies to keep America
number one. So there you have it

735
00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:02,910
are. And of course, the way it's
supposed to work is yes, that

736
00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:06,990
was the whole deal is we get to
read it at people like John and

737
00:46:06,990 --> 00:46:11,550
I read this stuff. And then you
get to comment on it. You can

738
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:14,520
call your representatives that's
what these people aren't just

739
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,470
like they didn't come out of the
poop, you know, the

740
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:18,990
representatives, they're
elected, you're supposed to be

741
00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:24,180
able to talk to them and and if
you want even lobby them, that's

742
00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:29,490
that's allowed and have input
before they go in. And now

743
00:46:29,490 --> 00:46:31,440
they're essentially voting
blind.

744
00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:36,000
Pelosi flew in at 767 that she
required the Air Force to

745
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,900
provide for her I

746
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:39,810
don't think it's big enough. I
think she had to get a 747

747
00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:44,910
Because a 767. I don't know if
it can make the trek in one go

748
00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:46,050
well, actually from DC. Oh,
yeah. I

749
00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:49,140
can't No, no problem. can
forget, you're right.

750
00:46:49,170 --> 00:46:53,490
It can it can. So, you know,
that's, that's the government at

751
00:46:53,490 --> 00:46:59,370
work. And, you know, you should
if it's so unfortunate, because

752
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,840
the resources are all there. You
know, C span is there. You can

753
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,110
hear this in real time. I did a
little informal poll at the

754
00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:11,010
office today. Yeah, yesterday.
And it was

755
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,560
we had another poll from the
office. Yes, we

756
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,250
had a jingle. And so these are
young kids, but you know, in

757
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:23,160
their mid 20s, some of the just
about to hit 30. And I said, we

758
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,070
have a little production
meeting. I say hey, who here

759
00:47:26,070 --> 00:47:32,850
knows about Copenhagen? One
person? The other one that Amy?

760
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,940
And I said so what do you know
about it? Well, there's

761
00:47:35,940 --> 00:47:38,190
something about some global
warming thing going on over

762
00:47:38,190 --> 00:47:42,630
there and she gets her news from
said I watch headline news. I

763
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:49,080
get 20 minutes everything I need
in the morning. Oops. And then

764
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,950
I'm good and I'm good to go. And
the other ones had never even

765
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:57,660
heard of anything going on in
Copenhagen. So what's worse is

766
00:47:57,660 --> 00:48:02,010
not these people are not not not
being indoctrinated. The ones

767
00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:07,980
that the 20 20% in the room
that's one person who did know

768
00:48:08,130 --> 00:48:11,910
about what's going on got it
from CNN Headline News and a 20

769
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:16,470
minute nugget of course you knew
everything about Tiger Woods and

770
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:20,640
everything about the white house
party crashers don't even bring

771
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,100
up Balloon Boy by the way he
would have been great for Time

772
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:25,290
Magazine's Person of the Year
that would have been a perfect

773
00:48:25,290 --> 00:48:32,220
one balloon boy you know, and
and and it saddens me and she

774
00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:35,250
did give me a good a good tip
though. And this is something

775
00:48:35,250 --> 00:48:37,620
that won't you know, we'll get
the stream rockin and somewhere

776
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:41,280
in in the New Year, which, which
is the entire plan when I quit

777
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,680
my day job. He said, can you
just give me a tour? Can you

778
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,350
give me in five minutes what's
going on? And I said, Okay,

779
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:52,230
here's what's happening.
Copenhagen is a setup that Al

780
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:56,340
Gore participated in global
warming is not true. It was made

781
00:48:56,340 --> 00:48:59,940
so that they can put in global
rules global global governance,

782
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,140
and eventually will lead to the
male sterilisation,

783
00:49:04,170 --> 00:49:08,040
sterilisation pill so that you
can not have more than one

784
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,460
child, if any children at all to
reduce the population have total

785
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:14,580
control over you. You said, oh,
cool, thanks. Okay. Could you

786
00:49:14,580 --> 00:49:20,550
just do that every single day
because I've listened to that. A

787
00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:23,280
good buddy of mine, I'll put a
link in the show notes. There

788
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,550
was Boy Yeah, like that. He had
it. He wrote a great blog post.

789
00:49:26,730 --> 00:49:29,970
He said, I'm setting up just
like the carbon credits exchange

790
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:33,420
that Al Gore has is I'm setting
up a child exchange so we're

791
00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:37,140
gonna have child credits. So we
so you can actually great idea

792
00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:40,440
Yeah, you can sell your
birthright. So if you're if

793
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,650
you're a woman of birth,
yielding age or younger, we

794
00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:46,470
could you could give this for
your 13th birthday, like your

795
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:49,620
Bar Mitzvah. You know, here you
go. If you decide not to have

796
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:53,670
children, then you can sell that
credit to people who do want to

797
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:57,390
have more than one child. It's a
great idea John, we could be cuz

798
00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:58,530
gazillionaires

799
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,030
we need to set up the exchange
to do this? Yes, like Al Gore

800
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:06,630
did, we have to see what Gore
did for his Climate Exchange

801
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:08,700
System and we can just copy it.

802
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:15,599
So meanwhile, the whole argument
there in Copenhagen is it's been

803
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:19,679
shifted craftily so cuz of
course there are hundreds of

804
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,729
1000s of people are protesting
and people are getting arrested

805
00:50:23,729 --> 00:50:26,099
and even the Danish are going
like dude, you know, this is

806
00:50:26,129 --> 00:50:27,329
this is pretty extreme you're

807
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:31,860
reporting on this correctly

808
00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:37,230
would you implemented draconian
laws to basically stopped people

809
00:50:37,230 --> 00:50:40,290
from protesting but they want
this they do want the protests

810
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,470
to take place because the
protesters are protesting the

811
00:50:43,470 --> 00:50:46,800
wrong thing. They think they
think they're protesting cap and

812
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,310
trade because it doesn't
actually solve the problem. What

813
00:50:50,310 --> 00:50:54,990
they should be protesting is the
entire lie. And the fact that

814
00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:59,280
this is about ushering in a one
world government and to have

815
00:50:59,310 --> 00:51:03,150
less people on Earth, which I
would assert also has not been

816
00:51:03,150 --> 00:51:07,290
proven as the solution. Even
though China thinks it's a good

817
00:51:07,290 --> 00:51:12,480
idea. And this was that crazy
woman from Canada, who, who

818
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,690
writes about it. She's She's a
former reporter.

819
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,810
I don't know what you're talking
about, oh, have to look that

820
00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:23,100
up. She's, who by the way has
two children herself? She says,

821
00:51:23,130 --> 00:51:26,460
oh, no, everyone should have no
more than one child. But she has

822
00:51:26,460 --> 00:51:26,880
to.

823
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:32,010
The funny thing is this, the
only idiots that would adopt

824
00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:35,010
this policy are just going to be
swamped under by them, you know,

825
00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:38,820
the poorest people in the world
who have the who use children as

826
00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:42,570
a as a form of entertainment.
They have to do some 6789 kids,

827
00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:46,500
you know, they need them to
help, you know as cheaply. Hey,

828
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:46,980
kid,

829
00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:51,840
dance, monkey boy. Make your
daddy laugh really? Do

830
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,470
something. Do something funny.
So I think we should seriously

831
00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:58,860
investigate that. John, we
should the child credit exchange

832
00:51:58,890 --> 00:52:00,990
this? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a

833
00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:06,180
child credit exchange. CC. Yeah.
Has a nice ring to it. Yeah,

834
00:52:06,179 --> 00:52:11,009
doesn't it? Yeah.

835
00:52:11,399 --> 00:52:15,959
So we're on the topic of the
global warming debate. Why don't

836
00:52:15,959 --> 00:52:17,939
you play the jingle by the way,
since we might as well

837
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,640
we might as well open up the
gate. Sorry, I'm a little bit

838
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,750
slow. To the gate to the to the
climate.

839
00:52:31,230 --> 00:52:36,450
might actually be interesting to
play this. Today, I'm very aware

840
00:52:36,450 --> 00:52:40,800
of the huge amount of listeners
we have in Gitmo nation East

841
00:52:41,130 --> 00:52:47,130
known as Europe on Newsnight.
Which is, is of course, a

842
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:53,010
programme that is deemed as
journalistically outstanding.

843
00:52:54,090 --> 00:53:01,380
They had on trying to look for
the for the notes here. They had

844
00:53:01,380 --> 00:53:04,890
on almost irrelevant, but listen
to this guy who was talking

845
00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:09,870
about the climate gate emails,
and how he is changing the

846
00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:14,730
truth. Maybe we just call it
lying. And then who he actually

847
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:20,070
accuses of releasing this just
in time for Copenhagen, listen

848
00:53:20,070 --> 00:53:23,280
to this. Second, why that
happened? That's not correct.

849
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:23,820
Here we go.

850
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:26,760
exaggerated. It sounds like
things have been held back from

851
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,840
the public. And this sense of
distrust has me concerned

852
00:53:31,650 --> 00:53:35,370
then to by the way, that is
exactly the object that the

853
00:53:35,370 --> 00:53:39,270
hackers had in getting into the
emails. Remember that these

854
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:44,430
emails go back to 1998. So
they've been accumulating them.

855
00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:48,330
So that's line number one, where
this is just technically dumb to

856
00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:51,240
say this, so they've been doing
this since 1998. They've been

857
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,680
saving them waiting to release
the horse crap. Of course it is.

858
00:53:56,070 --> 00:53:59,100
Dude, it's like they just got
the archive is like people save

859
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:00,600
their emails. You know, you're
supposed

860
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,570
to the guy. Okay. So the guy is
doesn't either nobody's talking

861
00:54:03,570 --> 00:54:06,210
about her. He's just an outlier.
Yeah. Well, let's

862
00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:09,270
listen to the rest. And they
just released them in the week

863
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:12,090
before Copenhagen. Yeah. And
that doesn't take away from her.

864
00:54:12,330 --> 00:54:13,380
Let me let me come to

865
00:54:14,370 --> 00:54:17,130
let me come to the fact he says,
let me come to the

866
00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:18,480
fact I just wanted to

867
00:54:21,090 --> 00:54:21,960
look up at a second.

868
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:27,240
The strategy of these people who
are hacking is important. Let me

869
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:31,740
also make this allegation for
the first time in public. It's

870
00:54:31,860 --> 00:54:36,120
an extraordinary sophisticated
piece of work to hack into all

871
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:42,690
of these emails, and, and mobile
phone conversations. When all

872
00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:46,230
agencies have got the
sophistication to manage that,

873
00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:48,270
but I'll leave you to think
about that.

874
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:52,020
While you need to get to the
root of the server,

875
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:57,330
it's incredibly sophisticated.
It is Professor Sir David King,

876
00:54:57,330 --> 00:55:00,570
who is the United Kingdom's
chief, who was the kingdom's

877
00:55:00,570 --> 00:55:07,200
Chief Scientific Adviser between
2002 1007. And further he says

878
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,560
mobile phone conversations and
what the hell is that? I think

879
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,460
what he's saying because you'll
recall that there was a huge

880
00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:20,760
scandal in the United Kingdom
where the the gossip magazines

881
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,940
had access to mobile phone
conversations you recall that?

882
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:30,060
Vaguely? Yeah, of course. Is
that what happens? Is that is

883
00:55:30,060 --> 00:55:31,650
that the first thing to go is
the memory?

884
00:55:31,799 --> 00:55:32,579
Yeah.

885
00:55:34,410 --> 00:55:39,300
So he's talking about and thank
God so easy asserting. Yeah,

886
00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:43,470
really? Good point. Is he
asserting that it's news

887
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:45,960
agencies or as you're asserting
that it's me?

888
00:55:46,589 --> 00:55:49,769
He's obviously just he just
making some sort of blanket

889
00:55:49,769 --> 00:55:52,649
accusation that you know, some
sort of hacker some cabal of

890
00:55:52,709 --> 00:55:56,249
hackers people against the
correct oil companies? I don't

891
00:55:56,249 --> 00:56:01,859
know. The guy is obviously the
sounds corrupt. The guy's

892
00:56:01,859 --> 00:56:02,969
creepy, his voice?

893
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,110
Yeah. Let me just make this let
me just point out this fact.

894
00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:08,940
This fact I must point out

895
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:13,740
so meanwhile, of course at the
at the meeting, they the colours

896
00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:16,770
of the global warming meeting,
besides the fact that people

897
00:56:16,770 --> 00:56:19,440
can't get in and so on, you
know, it's just a mess over

898
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:19,590
there.

899
00:56:20,279 --> 00:56:23,429
People outside the global
warming conference are freezing.

900
00:56:24,359 --> 00:56:25,199
Everything

901
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,780
that apparently did, I can go to
the blog divorce.org/blog And

902
00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:34,590
look this up, but Hugo Chavez
comes out, and he'd receded

903
00:56:34,590 --> 00:56:38,790
there. And he gives an anti
capitalist anti Western speech

904
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,800
that apparently gets a standing
Oh, you're essentially goes

905
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,590
after me. He hates us, right. So
he goes after of course, he

906
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:48,600
didn't. And he has part of the
reason to because I think the

907
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:52,260
the jackals tried to kill him a
couple of times. And he finally

908
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:56,640
gave up on the, on the west. So
he anybody who goes after us

909
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,090
accuses us of doing all these
bad things. It says capitalism

910
00:57:00,090 --> 00:57:02,970
is the problem, we need a
socialist state, and the entire

911
00:57:02,970 --> 00:57:08,550
place goes berserk with this,
ladies and gentlemen, is what

912
00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:11,850
it's all about. They want to set
up, you know, the equivalent of

913
00:57:11,850 --> 00:57:17,160
a caliphate, a world socialist
government run by guys like this

914
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,860
would just steal money straight
up without even having to, I

915
00:57:19,860 --> 00:57:23,970
mean, forget the 72 hours of
getting to read the bill or even

916
00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:28,530
13 There'll be no zero hours.
And and I think it was the

917
00:57:28,530 --> 00:57:31,320
giveaway and you start to see
these guys now coming out of the

918
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,920
woodwork because there's been
some resistance by the West,

919
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,530
especially the United States,
about where I don't know if we

920
00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:41,250
should sign this. You know,
we'll we'll look this do it next

921
00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:43,800
year. And all those kinds of
these guys are getting impatient

922
00:57:43,950 --> 00:57:46,890
at trying to steal our money.
And so now they're just coming

923
00:57:46,890 --> 00:57:48,630
after us with all kinds of
vitriol,

924
00:57:48,990 --> 00:57:50,940
because you explain the word
caliphate.

925
00:57:51,870 --> 00:57:58,530
Yeah, caliphate is a is is
essentially what the the Turkish

926
00:57:58,530 --> 00:58:03,600
Empire was, when, when Muslims
had essentially control of a

927
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,290
huge area of the Middle East
Turkey, or parts of Russia and a

928
00:58:07,290 --> 00:58:10,830
whole it's, it's essentially
like an emperor, only it's run

929
00:58:10,830 --> 00:58:16,020
under Muslim law. And the
Caliphate is a is the desire to

930
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:22,500
have the entire world under one
Muslim leader assaulted or

931
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:26,010
whatever you want to call him
who would who would use a Muslim

932
00:58:26,010 --> 00:58:31,620
authority to rule us all in some
kind of gentle way.

933
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:36,630
And that alone, my friends is a
$5 word you can use at the next

934
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:41,160
cocktail party caliphates, c l a
s a t e.

935
00:58:41,219 --> 00:58:45,029
I believe it's spelled. It's got
pH. Oh, is that? Yeah. Hi,

936
00:58:45,029 --> 00:58:49,229
Callie. See, Al I fac, wha tle

937
00:58:49,230 --> 00:58:54,300
fate. Okay, wow, it's even
better. And that alone should be

938
00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:58,350
the price of admission that we
believe you should pay for this

939
00:58:58,350 --> 00:59:01,470
programme. Because your
transition, I take this as my

940
00:59:01,470 --> 00:59:04,470
transition, because we're about
50 minutes into the show. Well,

941
00:59:04,469 --> 00:59:06,179
let me mention a few names while
we're at

942
00:59:06,180 --> 00:59:08,430
it. Well, go ahead.

943
00:59:08,459 --> 00:59:11,549
I want to, we only got donations
except for our executive

944
00:59:11,549 --> 00:59:14,339
producer from only three
countries in the world. I find

945
00:59:14,339 --> 00:59:18,359
it fascinating. We got nothing
from Australia, from Canada. All

946
00:59:18,359 --> 00:59:22,529
our all of our donations came
from the United States, the

947
00:59:22,529 --> 00:59:26,309
United Kingdom, which is odd
enough,

948
00:59:26,340 --> 00:59:29,160
and the Netherlands and the
Netherlands. And then other

949
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,030
ones, I have to say I've
received at least at least 10

950
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:36,960
different emails from producers
slash listeners in the

951
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,510
Netherlands who are pointing out
you know, I have a couple of

952
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:41,100
Dutch links in the show notes,
no agenda

953
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:46,350
show.com career.com divorce.org.
They are, of course in Dutch,

954
00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:49,890
you could do a Google
translation. And people are Wow,

955
00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:53,010
they're awake. They're seeing
it. I mean, the whole because

956
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,280
it's the same playbook. It's the
exact same thing taking place in

957
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,130
those countries. And they're
switching on they're tuning in

958
00:59:59,370 --> 01:00:00,240
and they Yeah,

959
01:00:01,410 --> 01:00:04,350
it's a fractal. So every country
that's going through this

960
01:00:04,530 --> 01:00:07,290
process is having seen the same
thing in different ways.

961
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:12,120
Although I do agree that the
Netherlands is far out in front

962
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,050
of everybody else,

963
01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:16,350
because they're gonna get the
blackbox GPS installed in their

964
01:00:16,350 --> 01:00:19,710
cars any day now. So yeah, they
are there, which of course is

965
01:00:19,710 --> 01:00:20,430
happening here.

966
01:00:20,460 --> 01:00:23,580
So let's mention a few people.
First of all, John Petrucci and

967
01:00:23,580 --> 01:00:27,060
Laurie, Laurie corpi and John
Trainor are continuing their

968
01:00:27,060 --> 01:00:31,020
night March tonight them but in
the Netherlands we've got a

969
01:00:31,020 --> 01:00:37,170
Yusef to Mio in Amsterdam and he
sent us a note which I'm going

970
01:00:37,170 --> 01:00:41,160
to pass along to you because you
need to hear this ready please

971
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:47,430
use an mp3 Tag Editor mp3 tag to
change the cover picture type

972
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:53,340
from other to front cover other
asset by iTunes this way the

973
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:57,540
great in all caps album art
which by the way is great of the

974
01:00:57,540 --> 01:01:01,680
show will also be displayed
properly on Nokia devices.

975
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:09,120
Wow okay, this is very typical
because I use iTunes to so we

976
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,660
record the show in raw a IFF
which is done for one reason

977
01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:16,470
only. That is should something
crash during the show that I

978
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:19,200
still have that show and it's I
don't I don't do a straight

979
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,910
record to mp3 or anything. Then
I transcoded down to mp3 and I

980
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:28,740
use iTunes to to essentially put
in the cover art and there is no

981
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:34,350
there is no functionality to
change it to cover. Of course

982
01:01:34,350 --> 01:01:36,600
because Apple has their own
thing they don't really play

983
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,510
nice using the mp3 Tag Editor.
Yeah,

984
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,900
I'll do that. I'll see if I can
do that for for the show. Good

985
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:43,950
suggestion. Thank you.

986
01:01:44,790 --> 01:01:49,470
I did of course we had Steven
tells mocker who's from Belgium.

987
01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:49,620
Yeah.

988
01:01:52,050 --> 01:01:54,570
So he's always in the chat room.
He's all over the place.

989
01:01:54,630 --> 01:02:00,810
Okay, now we have ad dollars
from Sander Bergen, hawks,

990
01:02:00,810 --> 01:02:05,760
Bergen, pucks, Barragan and he
says he only given us the ad

991
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:13,140
dollars to hear me pronounce.
Zaandam again. Good job.

992
01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:16,170
Do it a couple more times.

993
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:21,000
Pronunciation or not. It's Zam
DOM. Zan DOM.

994
01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:26,760
Like answered, I'm so dumb. So
Zhan dumb.

995
01:02:27,210 --> 01:02:27,930
Zaandam

996
01:02:27,959 --> 01:02:31,439
okay but you have the inflection
wrong. It sounds dumb not

997
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:37,350
zom John dumb that some dumb
yeah okay. accent on the first

998
01:02:37,860 --> 01:02:41,310
day but he's honest, I don't
want to say what address he's

999
01:02:41,310 --> 01:02:47,580
about tell us on a st which I
will repeat. Pelicans strat is

1000
01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:51,510
that right? The pelicans, the
pelicans?

1001
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:53,130
strats. Yeah, Kelly can

1002
01:02:53,130 --> 01:02:55,110
strike. All right.

1003
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:58,440
This is, this is why I do this
show.

1004
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:02,669
And and Raul's who I'm sure are
getting his name straight from

1005
01:03:02,669 --> 01:03:08,369
Pontiac, Michigan gay 50 Daniel,
shimmy Oh, shi M nyo and

1006
01:03:08,369 --> 01:03:12,839
Astoria. He didn't give us the
required amount. But he did give

1007
01:03:12,839 --> 01:03:17,729
us $22.18 which was leftover in
his paypal account. And he

1008
01:03:17,729 --> 01:03:22,619
mentioned he says he makes he's
he's his side job. His hobby job

1009
01:03:22,619 --> 01:03:27,119
is to is to do music and do CDs
occasionally. And now he says

1010
01:03:27,149 --> 01:03:31,139
this show of ours is giving him
impetus to do more CDs, and

1011
01:03:31,139 --> 01:03:33,449
you'll give us the profits. Wow,

1012
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:36,810
that's all well good. Send me a
link to your store. And we'll

1013
01:03:36,810 --> 01:03:39,990
put that in the show notes with
links to rock fantastic

1014
01:03:39,989 --> 01:03:45,599
and had to sit there and do some
music. John Smith from Parts

1015
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:48,899
Unknown gave us 100 hours
because he was so he was only

1016
01:03:48,899 --> 01:03:51,329
going to give us 50 But he was
so annoyed with those Beckwith

1017
01:03:51,329 --> 01:03:54,869
clips that we ran last week from
PBS they gave us 100

1018
01:03:55,890 --> 01:03:57,600
Because he was annoyed by them.
I was

1019
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,700
annoyed I think annoying
people's only way to get any

1020
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:06,750
money. Andrew Green from London,
gave us $100.01 a palindrome

1021
01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:11,190
which the British seem to be
enamoured with. And then finally

1022
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:15,780
our old friend Leon. Liam Liam
Hemmings from Buckingham. Sure.

1023
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,490
Give us 151 Let's take him and
that's it for this week.

1024
01:04:20,759 --> 01:04:26,519
So you can count in your head
that's not enough to have us go

1025
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:30,359
full time. We do not receive
enough in donations. I know it's

1026
01:04:30,359 --> 01:04:34,199
a tough time because it's
Christmas. But please do not

1027
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:37,769
forget your friendly internet
pronounced educators who are

1028
01:04:37,769 --> 01:04:43,499
here watching hours of C span
doing painfully what New York

1029
01:04:43,499 --> 01:04:46,469
Times reporter what does he make
150,000 a year

1030
01:04:47,940 --> 01:04:49,980
about 125 Maybe I'll settle

1031
01:04:50,010 --> 01:04:52,530
I'll take 125 I'll take that.

1032
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:54,930
Well look at this other than let
me read you this little clip

1033
01:04:54,930 --> 01:04:58,410
here from other editors just
about from a salon article. I

1034
01:04:58,410 --> 01:05:02,250
found out that the GI Bill gay H
Institute foundation the Bill

1035
01:05:02,250 --> 01:05:05,970
Gates Foundation Bill and
Melinda Gates, Melinda Melinda

1036
01:05:06,510 --> 01:05:09,540
they've been giving money to the
Discovery Institute which is

1037
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:15,810
that see how a group that
promotes creative design

1038
01:05:15,810 --> 01:05:18,780
creative intelligent design you
know that they're anti

1039
01:05:19,020 --> 01:05:25,110
anti creationism? Yeah, no sorry
anti evolution Yeah,

1040
01:05:25,140 --> 01:05:27,750
right. So I'm just gonna read
the whole thing your other

1041
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:30,420
foundations that have given
money to discovery also seem

1042
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:33,210
unsure whether donations may
terminate tarnish their image,

1043
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:36,930
still all insist the money they
gave to Discovery does not go to

1044
01:05:36,930 --> 01:05:40,800
fun discoveries intelligent
design work, Alberto Canalis,

1045
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,500
spokesman for the Verizon
Foundation says the five year

1046
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:49,020
$74,000 grant that foundation
made the discovery in 2001 was

1047
01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:53,040
earmarked for a lecture series
goes on the David and Lucile

1048
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,780
Packard Foundation gave $200,000
of discoveries, Cascadia centre,

1049
01:05:58,050 --> 01:06:00,180
and he goes in we're talking
about the hundreds and hundreds

1050
01:06:00,180 --> 01:06:02,670
of 1000s of dollars and we get
like about $1,000 a week. So

1051
01:06:02,670 --> 01:06:03,630
that's one other reason why

1052
01:06:03,660 --> 01:06:07,110
there's got to be within an
audience is big and it's

1053
01:06:07,110 --> 01:06:12,450
growing. There's got you this is
impossible to be a patron. There

1054
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:15,960
has to be someone who was
saying, You know what, I'm just

1055
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,900
gonna set these guys up and let
them go for a year, you know,

1056
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:23,400
and really help them and we can
stretch $1 You know, we can this

1057
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,210
is I have decided I decided many
months ago, this is my life's

1058
01:06:27,210 --> 01:06:30,750
work. I really want to continue
it. I don't want to live in

1059
01:06:30,750 --> 01:06:33,210
Obama Ville. I don't know if
he's, you see that.

1060
01:06:34,980 --> 01:06:37,920
I got a bunch of trouble with
that Obama. By the way. I want

1061
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,550
to remind people to go to
divorce.org/in A or no agenda

1062
01:06:41,550 --> 01:06:44,910
show.com and click on one of the
donation buttons and help us out

1063
01:06:44,910 --> 01:06:48,240
it does highly appreciate it.
And don't forget, try to become

1064
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,210
an executive producer. It'll pay
off in the end. Yeah, it will.

1065
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:54,570
Everything you give us will pay
off. You'll get it back in good

1066
01:06:54,570 --> 01:06:55,320
vibes and

1067
01:06:55,350 --> 01:06:59,730
that's that's the dude. That's
the law of the universe. If you

1068
01:06:59,730 --> 01:07:08,250
do good, then good comes back to
you. Absolutely. Just to just

1069
01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:13,380
not to pat myself on the back or
anything. Oh, why not? But, you

1070
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:17,190
know, people have scoffed and
guffawed at me in particular.

1071
01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:22,110
But I think we both sign on to
the, to the theory that a lot of

1072
01:07:22,110 --> 01:07:24,720
what is happening in
Afghanistan, besides the general

1073
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:30,990
theory that it is for the Unocal
Unocal pipeline, there's a lot

1074
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:34,740
of big Gitmo nation initiatives
that may get very important,

1075
01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:38,820
we're pretty sure that the troop
surge was sent just in the nick

1076
01:07:38,820 --> 01:07:42,330
of time to help with the poppy
harvest, seeing as of course,

1077
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:46,860
output production of the raw
materials for heroin from

1078
01:07:47,340 --> 01:07:51,960
Afghanistan is up 120%? Or is it
120% production level, I'm not

1079
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:57,060
sure which one it is. And I have
said many times that because the

1080
01:07:57,090 --> 01:08:02,700
only type of organisation in the
world or in America, that is

1081
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:07,920
allowed to send more than
$10,000, internationally, are

1082
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,950
publicly listed companies. And
I've been saying for a long time

1083
01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:15,000
ever since we started the show
that the drug money is slushed

1084
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,270
through to Wall Street. Because
you know, if I want to send

1085
01:08:18,270 --> 01:08:22,710
$10,000 or $10,001 overseas,
than have to go through all

1086
01:08:22,710 --> 01:08:25,410
these hoops, I have to report
it, you know, there's all kinds

1087
01:08:25,410 --> 01:08:28,500
of systems that kick in,
particularly for sending it to

1088
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:32,280
the Netherlands, then, you know,
then it goes through swift and

1089
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,310
the US can look at it and you
get taxed on it. And there's all

1090
01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:39,840
kinds of huge, huge systems in
place. But if you're a publicly

1091
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,440
listed company, a Wall Street
company, and let's face it, what

1092
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:45,720
are the big ones doing all the
business, it's the banks,

1093
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,710
they're all listed publicly, you
can buy shares in the banks, the

1094
01:08:49,710 --> 01:08:55,110
United Nations, the US, so those
of you who believe that there's

1095
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:58,590
global warming, that means you
believe in the United Nations.

1096
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,460
So that means you would have to
believe this report that the UN

1097
01:09:02,460 --> 01:09:05,760
Office on Drugs and Crime came
out with saying they have

1098
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,690
evidence that the proceeds of
organised crime in particular

1099
01:09:09,690 --> 01:09:14,400
drug money, were the only liquid
investment capital available to

1100
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,340
some banks on the brink of
collapse. And a majority of the

1101
01:09:17,340 --> 01:09:23,220
$352 billion of drug profits
were absorbed into the economic

1102
01:09:23,220 --> 01:09:24,540
system as a result.

1103
01:09:25,529 --> 01:09:26,249
Indeed.

1104
01:09:27,420 --> 01:09:28,980
So there you have it. Now

1105
01:09:28,979 --> 01:09:30,449
we have a link to that article.

1106
01:09:31,290 --> 01:09:34,860
Today, I have a link to the the
article in The Guardian that

1107
01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:42,870
reported on it hidden Of course,
and there's also the link to the

1108
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:46,500
actual report which is worth
reading, by the way we read this

1109
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:50,370
stuff. People look at even the
Bloomberg guy that I was having

1110
01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:53,940
dinner with now he's talking
about the Lisbon Treaty and I

1111
01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:56,550
really went overboard with him.
And I said, you know, I read

1112
01:09:56,550 --> 01:10:00,540
that you did what? So yeah,
dude, you No, it's not that

1113
01:10:00,540 --> 01:10:03,270
hard, except you have to find
all the protocols and the sub

1114
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:05,580
texts and everything because
it's all kind of pulled apart.

1115
01:10:05,580 --> 01:10:08,580
But yeah, you know, it's just
people writing it. You know,

1116
01:10:08,580 --> 01:10:12,090
it's just lawyers. You know, I'm
not impressed. You know, lawyers

1117
01:10:12,090 --> 01:10:14,370
are just paid to speak a
different language. We've got

1118
01:10:14,370 --> 01:10:17,130
Google, you know, I've got a
dictionary, I can look up words,

1119
01:10:17,130 --> 01:10:21,090
I'm always inquisitive about a
word means what the intent is,

1120
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:25,530
you know, it's not that hard.
You can do this. Oh, wow,

1121
01:10:25,530 --> 01:10:29,490
really? And we did and so I did
that. And this links, you can

1122
01:10:29,490 --> 01:10:33,090
download the, the house
appropriation bills, the four

1123
01:10:33,090 --> 01:10:35,790
ones that were when they were
debating, you know, it's right

1124
01:10:35,790 --> 01:10:39,360
there, you can download it, it's
okay, you know, go scroll right

1125
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,580
down to the end. That's where
the pork is all included.

1126
01:10:41,820 --> 01:10:45,780
Interesting, by the way, how
they've put in recipients of the

1127
01:10:45,780 --> 01:10:50,040
cash. So the appropriations bill
actually list who the money's

1128
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,220
going to, so it's not even up
for you know, like a tender,

1129
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,150
like a you know, like any for
profit company can bid on the

1130
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:59,400
boom, no, it's already in there.

1131
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:01,409
Boom, boom, yeah.

1132
01:11:02,430 --> 01:11:03,870
Crazy. Alright, so

1133
01:11:03,870 --> 01:11:06,000
let's shift gears a little bit.

1134
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,110
Yeah, I mean, do you want to
stop on the climate gate because

1135
01:11:10,410 --> 01:11:14,910
there were a couple of very
important piece of news that

1136
01:11:14,910 --> 01:11:21,660
came out one and claimed what
well Al Gore. He, he did a

1137
01:11:21,660 --> 01:11:25,680
little closed conference, but it
was for journalists in

1138
01:11:25,710 --> 01:11:32,100
Copenhagen as he flew is G five
up there. And he claimed Oh, I

1139
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:34,560
can't believe you missed this,
John. He claimed

1140
01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:37,740
about that. About the ice cap.

1141
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,920
He says these figures are fresh.
He said in his speech like he

1142
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,220
lies about a lot of the stuff
some of the models suggest there

1143
01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:50,310
was a 75% chance of the entire
north polar let me finish not

1144
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:56,580
everyone has a blog. Some of
them might do some of the models

1145
01:11:57,510 --> 01:12:01,110
there's a 75% chance the entire
north polar ice cap during the

1146
01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:03,690
summer months could be
completely ice free within five

1147
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:07,470
to seven years. Unfortunately,
the scientists that Gore quoted

1148
01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:12,750
the research from Dr. wheeze
love malachowsky. And I love the

1149
01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:18,840
way this is written in. See what
publications this TG daily

1150
01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:24,540
rather pissed on his chips by
stating it's unclear to me how

1151
01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:27,660
this figure was arrived at I
would never try to estimate

1152
01:12:27,660 --> 01:12:32,550
likelihood anything as exact as
that. And Al Gore spokesman

1153
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:35,370
backpedalled furiously saying
the figure quoted was merely a

1154
01:12:35,370 --> 01:12:38,430
ballpark figure that was
mentioned at a conversation

1155
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:41,550
going along you probably had
some images of like the Polaroid

1156
01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:43,740
Yeah, there he is. Alright,
captors.

1157
01:12:43,979 --> 01:12:47,129
There's a distinctive cycled up.
Oh, what else could it be? But

1158
01:12:47,129 --> 01:12:50,219
global warming? Well, maybe the
sun. But there's there's been a

1159
01:12:50,309 --> 01:12:55,019
long term cycle of the global
northern Arctic ice cap

1160
01:12:55,019 --> 01:12:58,769
specifically, of it melting
completely. I mean, it's been

1161
01:12:58,769 --> 01:13:02,009
trend it's been navigated by the
Chinese. I think it was 1000

1162
01:13:02,009 --> 01:13:05,219
years ago. There's documentation
for that. And it comes and goes

1163
01:13:05,459 --> 01:13:10,589
I mean, it's it's better by most
people's standards that it that

1164
01:13:10,589 --> 01:13:17,069
it goes rather than creates a an
ice age the other way. And when

1165
01:13:17,069 --> 01:13:19,589
the Vikings came across, there
was no ice up there. I mean,

1166
01:13:19,589 --> 01:13:22,469
there was very little on there's
England was named Greenland

1167
01:13:22,469 --> 01:13:23,549
because it was a great place

1168
01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:27,330
to plant Lake and there's this
Viking villages they've

1169
01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:33,660
discovered 70 feet under the
ice. Yeah. Yeah. Like, okay.

1170
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:42,480
Meanwhile, one of the main
climate change opponents live on

1171
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:44,520
Danish television. Got a heart
attack.

1172
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,320
Yeah, that was a weird one. We
have that blog, too. Yeah, some

1173
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,280
guy he was he was a complainer
he was a denialist. And he's

1174
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,270
going on about something.
Somebody came over in touch. We

1175
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:57,960
had a heart attack.

1176
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,220
It was it was a frightening and
you know what? A heart attack. I

1177
01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:04,500
thought normally you'd like
people grab their arm or

1178
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:07,800
something. It looked like it was
weird, man. It looks like he got

1179
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,500
an electric shock. That's
exactly what it looked like. It

1180
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:14,730
was like they'd switch the chip
on you know, was like, hey, over

1181
01:14:14,730 --> 01:14:19,950
on screen 3042 Hey, something's
going on. Zap. zap them now. zap

1182
01:14:19,950 --> 01:14:21,480
him. Okay. It was pretty true.
We

1183
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,080
got him. were safe. They got him
off the stage.

1184
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,840
They drug him and you haven't
heard anything? You haven't

1185
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,580
heard any follow up to that you
didn't even see that on

1186
01:14:29,580 --> 01:14:34,290
mainstream television. No, Lord,
Lord Monckton, who kind of

1187
01:14:34,290 --> 01:14:38,970
started off the public debate by
going out and making speeches.

1188
01:14:38,970 --> 01:14:43,080
He went and interviewed some of
the Greenpeace. Here's your left

1189
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,620
right paradigm right here. So
the Greenpeace protesters. Have

1190
01:14:46,620 --> 01:14:49,860
you seen that clip, John? No.
Oh, let's listen to a bit of it.

1191
01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:52,620
He's interviewing Greenpeace
protests. But it's

1192
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:57,570
very common to come here and
join our conference today. Why

1193
01:14:57,570 --> 01:14:58,320
you have come?

1194
01:14:58,950 --> 01:15:01,710
I think I've already heard So
that question I've just come

1195
01:15:01,710 --> 01:15:06,630
because I'm a member of
Greenpeace. We've heard that

1196
01:15:06,660 --> 01:15:10,830
this conference is about people
who negates climate change.

1197
01:15:11,130 --> 01:15:14,970
Right? Now there has been
climate change hazards there for

1198
01:15:14,970 --> 01:15:16,320
4 billion years.

1199
01:15:17,699 --> 01:15:18,839
But you tell me, I'm young.

1200
01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:23,279
So the point of this video will
play a couple more interviews,

1201
01:15:23,579 --> 01:15:27,029
is all these people who are with
Greenpeace protesting or sent by

1202
01:15:27,029 --> 01:15:30,419
Greenpeace don't actually know
what's going on? They have no

1203
01:15:30,419 --> 01:15:33,239
information. They don't actually
know the facts.

1204
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:39,810
That's a good. That's a very
good. Can I ask you, then, if

1205
01:15:39,810 --> 01:15:43,260
there's been Chuck, climate
change for 4 billion years, why

1206
01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:44,340
are you against it now?

1207
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:50,310
Because well, over the last,
let's say, over the last 80

1208
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:54,990
years, climate change has been
really, really accelerating. And

1209
01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:58,920
we have a big problem. And we
need to act very, very easily.

1210
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,450
Right. Now, the UN, in its
calculations shows that in over

1211
01:16:03,450 --> 01:16:08,250
the last 20 years, we could not
have had any effect on the

1212
01:16:08,250 --> 01:16:13,350
climate. It's a very recent
effect that we might have. Given

1213
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:19,290
that there has been warming for
300 years, but only 280 years,

1214
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,590
we could not have made any
difference. I have seen in the

1215
01:16:22,590 --> 01:16:25,530
last 20 years, we have suddenly
done something that really

1216
01:16:25,530 --> 01:16:26,520
changes the climate.

1217
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:31,770
Well, if you look at places, if
you look at the polar oppose,

1218
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,320
and if you look at weather
changes.

1219
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:42,570
Are you saying that there has
been any unusual melting of ice

1220
01:16:42,780 --> 01:16:46,260
at the poles? But how do you
know that?

1221
01:16:47,070 --> 01:16:51,000
Because I'm reading reports,
hearing people talk,

1222
01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:53,970
and I'll Gorsedd so reading the
press.

1223
01:16:54,510 --> 01:16:58,440
Have you ever checked any of the
data from the scientific

1224
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:02,550
institutions or in the learned
literature directly? Well, I

1225
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:06,030
have checked the reports from
for instance, reports from

1226
01:17:06,030 --> 01:17:08,100
Greenpeace because they they

1227
01:17:08,940 --> 01:17:11,550
Greenpeace is a campaigning
organisation, isn't it?

1228
01:17:12,330 --> 01:17:14,820
What do you mean like
campaigning for weather bureaus?

1229
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:21,570
So my question then is Why do
you believe reports whether from

1230
01:17:21,570 --> 01:17:25,560
Greenpeace or anybody else,
without having actually checked?

1231
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,460
I mean, I seen it because I'm
from Norway, actually, I'm from

1232
01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:33,750
Norway. And I've seen glaciers
20 years ago, and they were much

1233
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:38,430
bigger than they are now. And I
see that's fauna and flora is

1234
01:17:38,430 --> 01:17:40,230
changing Norway because of

1235
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,140
this has been happening for 4
billion years and we agreed

1236
01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:45,570
before you will get changes
sometimes room

1237
01:17:45,570 --> 01:17:48,870
locked in. So you know, watch
that entire clip Monckton is

1238
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:51,570
great, man. He's out on the
street doing this. He just yeah,

1239
01:17:51,570 --> 01:17:55,170
he's a character. Oh, my
goodness, you shuffle. But for

1240
01:17:55,170 --> 01:17:57,960
this guy. I mean, that's just
fantastic. Not not a lot of

1241
01:17:58,170 --> 01:18:02,100
people who don't have to worry
about shit in life, who are kind

1242
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:05,370
of set would do this stuff. It
just wouldn't.

1243
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:10,020
Yeah, he's a he's he's good. I
mean, everything I've heard from

1244
01:18:10,020 --> 01:18:12,390
him has been very, very
interesting.

1245
01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:17,370
And, you know, lots of other
little reports here and there

1246
01:18:17,370 --> 01:18:20,040
that that you can read. Of
course, it was funny to see

1247
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,940
that. The Prince Charles and
Gordon Brown both went to

1248
01:18:23,940 --> 01:18:26,700
Copenhagen, but they flew in
their separate jets. They

1249
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:28,920
couldn't go they could have made
a little statement there. He was

1250
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:33,510
like, hey, who was running the
PR for this? Come on, guys. This

1251
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:35,070
isn't isn't a slam dunk.

1252
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,730
Think turns out that they would,
because nobody cares. And

1253
01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:41,490
everyone just believes whatever
the PR people tell them to begin

1254
01:18:41,490 --> 01:18:44,370
with, that they can get away
with this. I mean, it did. It

1255
01:18:44,370 --> 01:18:47,040
was only the reason that they
stopped flying their jets, the

1256
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,070
General Motors flew, you know,
flew a jet into Washington, DC

1257
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:53,430
to do testimony. And then
somebody picked it up and made a

1258
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:57,660
big stink about it. And then,
because they hate General

1259
01:18:57,660 --> 01:18:59,700
Motors, and they hate
capitalism, they hate big

1260
01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:01,620
business. So they made a big
stink about so the guys had to

1261
01:19:01,620 --> 01:19:04,950
drive in on a bus the next time,
but nobody is going to make a

1262
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:07,650
stink about these guys, because
everybody's already signed up

1263
01:19:07,650 --> 01:19:11,040
for the global warming is going
to kill us all. And you know, we

1264
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,220
should do have one world
government and all this sort.

1265
01:19:14,220 --> 01:19:17,190
Nobody's gonna say anything,
because it might detract.

1266
01:19:17,609 --> 01:19:22,649
The CIA has come out the CIA has
a centre for the study of

1267
01:19:22,649 --> 01:19:27,209
climate change deeply embedded
within the Pentagon, or wherever

1268
01:19:27,209 --> 01:19:31,139
they are embedded. And we did
talk about this briefly that

1269
01:19:31,379 --> 01:19:35,849
yes, climate change is indeed a
it's a real concern to our

1270
01:19:35,879 --> 01:19:41,579
national security. And here's a
quote from from one of the air

1271
01:19:41,579 --> 01:19:46,079
marshals, well initially, the
main problem we see is people

1272
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:49,919
will be fighting for food and
shelter. When the migration

1273
01:19:49,919 --> 01:19:53,429
starts, remember, John, the big
migration of 2010 Do you

1274
01:19:53,429 --> 01:19:56,669
remember those days, every state
would want to stop the

1275
01:19:56,669 --> 01:19:59,609
migrations from happening.
Eventually it would have to

1276
01:19:59,609 --> 01:20:03,419
become an military conflict.
Which other measures do you have

1277
01:20:03,419 --> 01:20:07,829
to resolve your border issues?
So there you go. We're all going

1278
01:20:07,829 --> 01:20:11,429
to be starving and burning up
and we will have no food and

1279
01:20:11,429 --> 01:20:13,829
we're all going to be killing
each other for food. That's the

1280
01:20:13,829 --> 01:20:15,149
meme that is being spread.

1281
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:24,900
And well, it's a good one.
Today, we can close this gate to

1282
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:26,250
the gate to the gate to the
cloud with

1283
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,080
the problem, of course, is that
the pendulum is swinging in the

1284
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,890
other direction. So let's talk
about some interesting here. Let

1285
01:20:40,890 --> 01:20:44,220
me just read this. This is from
June. I found this when I was

1286
01:20:44,220 --> 01:20:47,250
doing some research, June in the
nation, which is an extremely

1287
01:20:47,250 --> 01:20:52,920
progressive magazine. Writing on
the Atlantic's website, Scott

1288
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,860
bland and Ronald Brownstein
identified the emergence of what

1289
01:20:55,860 --> 01:20:59,760
they dubbed the democratic
industrial complex. Yeah, like

1290
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,120
that one, energy and healthcare
companies, automakers and banks

1291
01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:05,790
all understand that the
Democrats control much of their

1292
01:21:05,790 --> 01:21:09,570
fate. So they've cast a lot with
the majority party in a big way.

1293
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:12,840
John Kerry got less than 20% of
the donations from electric

1294
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,800
utilities. brocco, when he ran
for president, Barack Obama,

1295
01:21:16,980 --> 01:21:21,750
Obama got almost 60%. So far in
the cycle, Democrats have

1296
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:24,810
captured two thirds of the
donations from the health care

1297
01:21:24,810 --> 01:21:30,120
industry. So let's play the clip
with Howard Dean. As promised,

1298
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:30,240
we

1299
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,760
are joined now by Governor
Howard Dean, former chairman of

1300
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,400
the Democratic National
Committee on a 2004 candidate

1301
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,010
for the Democratic presidential
nomination. Thank you for your

1302
01:21:38,010 --> 01:21:42,720
time tonight, Governor, thanks
for having me on. Governor Dean,

1303
01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:45,840
you have been on this cause of
health care reform for decades,

1304
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,740
there has been no more energetic
cheerleader for this legislative

1305
01:21:49,740 --> 01:21:53,820
crusade this time around, then
you you have reached the point

1306
01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:57,270
now, where the Senate Bill,
which is well on its way to

1307
01:21:57,270 --> 01:22:00,510
becoming the Lieberman bill is
something you can no longer

1308
01:22:00,510 --> 01:22:03,630
support and you want to kill it.
Tell us why? Well, I don't I'm

1309
01:22:03,630 --> 01:22:06,600
not gonna give up on health care
reform, I'm still hopeful that

1310
01:22:07,050 --> 01:22:09,150
something will happen in the
house, but it's not very likely

1311
01:22:09,150 --> 01:22:12,780
because the conference committee
can be vetoed by Joe and the

1312
01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:17,430
other pro insurance company,
just Democrats, when it comes

1313
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:20,460
back as well. So real reform in
the house is a lot less likely

1314
01:22:20,460 --> 01:22:22,800
given what's happened in the
Senate. This is not real reform.

1315
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,620
It's not healthcare reform,
there no choices. Once the

1316
01:22:25,620 --> 01:22:28,230
decision has been made without
really thinking about it. It's

1317
01:22:28,230 --> 01:22:30,300
been made because people are
exhausted, they want to pass the

1318
01:22:30,300 --> 01:22:32,220
bill so desperately, they're not
thinking about what they're

1319
01:22:32,220 --> 01:22:35,820
doing here. It's been made to
commit the United States to

1320
01:22:35,820 --> 01:22:38,430
health care reform through the
private sector. I don't think

1321
01:22:38,430 --> 01:22:40,770
that's the decision should be
made lightly in the previous

1322
01:22:40,770 --> 01:22:44,910
bills, the Medicare buy in the
public option had the choice of

1323
01:22:44,910 --> 01:22:47,760
a mixture, so giving Americans
the opportunity to make their

1324
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,730
own choices. Those choices have
been taken away by the pro

1325
01:22:50,730 --> 01:22:53,610
insurance folks in the in the
Senate. I think that's a

1326
01:22:53,610 --> 01:22:56,550
mistake, or there's some good
things in this bill. Yes. This

1327
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:59,220
is this is basically the Mitt
Romney bill in Massachusetts,

1328
01:22:59,220 --> 01:23:02,250
except it doesn't ensures high
percentage of people. The

1329
01:23:02,250 --> 01:23:06,330
exchanges work well. Although
there's no cost control of any,

1330
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:11,280
any substance, you're going to
be forced to buy health

1331
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,000
insurance from a company that's
going to take on average 27% of

1332
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,480
your money so they can pay CEOs
$20 million a year and so they

1333
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:21,420
can return to have return on
equity and their shareholders

1334
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,760
and there's no choice about that
if you don't buy that insurance

1335
01:23:23,790 --> 01:23:26,760
you're gonna get you're gonna
get a fine. So this is this is

1336
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:28,770
this is a bill that was
fundamentally written by

1337
01:23:28,770 --> 01:23:31,890
staffers who were friendly to
the insurance industry held up

1338
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:34,650
so that it was friendly to the
insurance industry by Senators

1339
01:23:34,650 --> 01:23:38,160
who take a lot of money from the
insurance industry, and it is

1340
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,460
not healthcare reform. And I
think it's too bad to come to

1341
01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:45,510
this Okay, so

1342
01:23:45,570 --> 01:23:50,490
he's turned on it. Interesting.
The thing is, then a tough few

1343
01:23:50,490 --> 01:23:53,730
others are trying to get the
courage up although like does it

1344
01:23:53,730 --> 01:23:56,640
nation article said the
healthcare industry meaning

1345
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,940
mostly a couple of insurance
companies that dominate

1346
01:23:59,970 --> 01:24:04,770
healthcare insurance, and HMOs
have been given all the money

1347
01:24:04,770 --> 01:24:07,890
the Democrats are the Democrats
basically are talking out of

1348
01:24:07,890 --> 01:24:09,810
both sides of their mouth, and
they're not going to do this

1349
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:12,330
bill is going to be all this
bill is going to do. Which is

1350
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:15,810
which makes it even more amusing
is that if you don't have

1351
01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:17,820
healthcare insurance, which
you've been complaining about,

1352
01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:21,330
now, you're going to be forced
to buy it. And it is running

1353
01:24:21,330 --> 01:24:24,570
about you know, 20 to 30% of
somebody's annual income.

1354
01:24:25,410 --> 01:24:29,070
Yeah, and you'll be forced to
buy it under threat of penalties

1355
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:32,430
and jail. actual jail.

1356
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,850
So really great job on by Obama
and the boys. Yeah,

1357
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,060
good one. There's what this one
thing I should have mentioned

1358
01:24:39,060 --> 01:24:42,090
this, when we're talking about
donations, John, because, you

1359
01:24:42,090 --> 01:24:47,850
know, we often harp on public
broadcasting and an NPR about

1360
01:24:47,970 --> 01:24:53,610
them taking money from large
corporations such as so the

1361
01:24:53,610 --> 01:24:58,740
Associated Press reported on
Monsanto as confidential

1362
01:24:58,740 --> 01:25:01,920
contracts deal These are the
seed people by the way they make

1363
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,890
genetically modified seeds. In
case you didn't know Google on

1364
01:25:04,890 --> 01:25:07,830
this plenty of juice Google
juice about Monsanto.

1365
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,210
Confidential contracts detailing
Monsanto company's business

1366
01:25:12,210 --> 01:25:15,720
practices reveal how the world's
biggest seed developer is

1367
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,020
squeezing competitors,
controlling smaller seed

1368
01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:22,620
companies and protecting its
dominance over the multibillion

1369
01:25:22,620 --> 01:25:27,300
dollar market for genetically
altered crops. One follow on

1370
01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:32,700
article that is that I'm not
going to read. But there is an

1371
01:25:32,700 --> 01:25:41,250
admission Now, bear has admitted
that GMO contamination is out of

1372
01:25:41,250 --> 01:25:44,010
control. They've admitted it,
they've been unable to control

1373
01:25:44,010 --> 01:25:47,100
the spread of its genetically
engineered organisms, despite

1374
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:50,250
best practices to stop
contamination. That's what's

1375
01:25:50,250 --> 01:25:53,700
been shown in all outdoor field
trials. And so I thought, you

1376
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:59,910
know, what, why don't I just go
to the NPR website and see if

1377
01:25:59,910 --> 01:26:05,580
any of their programming talks
about this Monsanto story?

1378
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,240
What did you find out? Um, well,

1379
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:13,500
gee, John, you know, there they
are. On their website, they do

1380
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:17,190
have a link to the AP story. But
in all their programming, which

1381
01:26:17,190 --> 01:26:20,730
let's face it, that's what NPR
is about is their programming.

1382
01:26:21,090 --> 01:26:24,720
All I can find in the Morning
Edition is Monsanto, Tobias seed

1383
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:30,210
producer in deal worth 1.4
billion. Monsanto, nixes, new

1384
01:26:30,210 --> 01:26:35,070
biotech weeds Monsanto Sue's
dairy over milk ads.

1385
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,670
Oh, they should they should
another dairy over milk ads.

1386
01:26:38,700 --> 01:26:39,030
Yeah.

1387
01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:42,240
Let's go to PBS for a second.
Let's see if PBS is reporting on

1388
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:46,410
Monsanto, a little search on
their site. Let me see. Well,

1389
01:26:46,410 --> 01:26:48,840
there's plenty of search results
to talk about Monsanto

1390
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,260
underwriting the programmes. But
no, there's nothing about this.

1391
01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:56,550
John, it's it's it's phenomenal.
The on the News Hour, which is

1392
01:26:56,550 --> 01:27:00,840
heavily sponsored by Monsanto is
not reporting on this at all.

1393
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,600
That's weird, because it's our
national treasure. Yeah. And you

1394
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,740
know, and they are after all
sponsored by. So you think that

1395
01:27:07,740 --> 01:27:10,680
has the inside track, they can
just call up HQ and say, Hey,

1396
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,410
guys, why don't you just give a
little comment on this Monsanto

1397
01:27:13,410 --> 01:27:17,370
story? No, they're not doing it,
because they're taking money

1398
01:27:17,370 --> 01:27:20,880
from Monsanto. So they're not
going to blow blow one of their

1399
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,280
big little they are blowing, but
they're not going to blow up

1400
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,710
what are their biggest
resources, one of their biggest

1401
01:27:25,710 --> 01:27:28,860
sources of money, which is why
we don't take advertisements,

1402
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:32,460
which is the only way this will
work. So I just wanted to say

1403
01:27:32,460 --> 01:27:35,160
that was kind of interesting.
All the search results and the

1404
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,000
stories are in the show notes,
of course, at the unadvertised,

1405
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,860
double no agenda show.com.

1406
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:49,440
Yes, indeed, in fact, it's, it's
commendable. So there's a story

1407
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,630
breaking. We're going to
probably talk about it on the

1408
01:27:51,630 --> 01:27:55,650
next show two more in more
detail. But now the research is

1409
01:27:55,650 --> 01:27:58,980
coming in that high fructose
corn syrup is indeed hazardous

1410
01:27:58,980 --> 01:28:03,030
to your health. Yeah, don't say
it screws up your liver and it

1411
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:07,140
makes you fat. And it causes all
kinds of issues with all kinds

1412
01:28:07,140 --> 01:28:08,310
of parts of your body and

1413
01:28:08,729 --> 01:28:12,209
I wonder John, who makes high
fructose corn syrup?

1414
01:28:13,620 --> 01:28:15,030
I think it's Archer Daniels.

1415
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:17,880
It will be Archer Daniels
Midland company.

1416
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,650
Yeah, don't take big time have
sponsors of NPR and PBS?

1417
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,160
I think they are maybe we should
look at let me do Shall I do a

1418
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,790
little search and see if there's
any story on high fructose corn

1419
01:28:29,790 --> 01:28:31,830
syrup on PBS as an example you

1420
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:33,090
won't find anything there.

1421
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,530
Oh, come on. Let me look

1422
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,020
you might find some stuff from
the public relations department

1423
01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:40,170
that has the same kind of you
know the basically the mean that

1424
01:28:40,170 --> 01:28:43,560
they've tried to put out there
as is all it is is just you

1425
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,860
know, sucrose and glucose hooked
together in such a way that it's

1426
01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:50,340
very natural. I'm looking at a
refinery out

1427
01:28:50,339 --> 01:28:55,919
of corn King corn how sweet it
is the rise? Can corn learn

1428
01:28:55,919 --> 01:29:00,719
more? What is more dense yeast
part two? No, John, this this

1429
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:03,929
doesn't seem to be anything
about high fructose corn syrup

1430
01:29:03,929 --> 01:29:06,899
being dangerous to your health
on all of the PBS programming.

1431
01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:10,290
You know, it's a giveaway to the
whole thing falling apart on you

1432
01:29:10,290 --> 01:29:13,020
with this terrible substance
which is really pretty much only

1433
01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:15,810
use the United States where
we've you can almost track the

1434
01:29:15,810 --> 01:29:18,750
obesity levels when it was first
introduced to what it is today

1435
01:29:18,750 --> 01:29:19,290
itself is

1436
01:29:19,290 --> 01:29:21,540
a huge source of it, by the way,
catch up.

1437
01:29:21,570 --> 01:29:25,260
Yeah, you have to buy them. You
can buy Heinz at the Costco at

1438
01:29:25,260 --> 01:29:30,420
some cost because you can buy
Heinz organic ketchup, which has

1439
01:29:30,420 --> 01:29:33,090
no high fructose corn syrup in
it. Unlike all the other

1440
01:29:33,090 --> 01:29:33,540
ketchup.

1441
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:34,770
It tastes like crap.

1442
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,970
I do want to add that. No, it
does. Exactly the same. Really?

1443
01:29:38,970 --> 01:29:39,090
I'll

1444
01:29:39,090 --> 01:29:41,160
have to try it I think it tastes
like crap which is

1445
01:29:41,729 --> 01:29:43,979
exactly the same there's no
difference in flavour it's

1446
01:29:43,979 --> 01:29:44,939
actually taste better.

1447
01:29:44,970 --> 01:29:47,910
I've always I've always thought
that they make they put crap

1448
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:49,410
taste in the organic stuff.

1449
01:29:49,410 --> 01:29:51,810
No, no, no, in this case is
here's that. Here's the kicker

1450
01:29:51,810 --> 01:29:55,350
you're not letting me get to the
punch line. I've run into this a

1451
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:57,450
lot. I've run into this with
cereals that don't have a

1452
01:29:57,450 --> 01:30:00,450
million additives in it. And I
run into with this This

1453
01:30:00,450 --> 01:30:05,070
particular product does Heinz
organic ketchup. It comes from

1454
01:30:05,070 --> 01:30:07,050
Canada. So of course,

1455
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:09,750
this is what we should move on
right?

1456
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:12,480
Can we do it here but no, no
comes in. So they have to bring

1457
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,420
it in from Canada, because
nobody around here wants to deal

1458
01:30:15,420 --> 01:30:17,970
with the fact that I don't know
why should we bother? We need to

1459
01:30:17,970 --> 01:30:21,030
move with the kicker. The whole
thing is Pepsi Cola just

1460
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:25,950
announced that they're dropping
all HF ces from all their sodas

1461
01:30:25,950 --> 01:30:30,180
next year and a fan of it,
because it's bad for you. Yet

1462
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,180
bad for you. But it will do some
people should start looking up

1463
01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:35,760
some articles. Now you can find
it either still obscure, but

1464
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,740
these research reports are
starting to come out. They're

1465
01:30:37,740 --> 01:30:40,020
gonna they're trying to be
squashed as fast as they can.

1466
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:43,710
But go to your typing high
fructose corn syrup, hit the

1467
01:30:43,710 --> 01:30:47,280
button, and then click on news
and try to get the newer stories

1468
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,450
and you'll find a lot of this
stuff.

1469
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:53,820
So in our ever never ending
quest to avoid to to the head

1470
01:30:53,820 --> 01:30:59,370
ourselves. John be ready for
you're out there sounds, of

1471
01:30:59,370 --> 01:31:03,960
course after the nuclear cruise
missile attack on on Denver,

1472
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:11,250
which I reported on. Seems like
they had a little a little drill

1473
01:31:11,670 --> 01:31:15,540
the other day, which was
announced this was you know, in

1474
01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:18,510
case some kind of a missile
would be sent into the United

1475
01:31:18,510 --> 01:31:22,260
States and there was an actual
cruise missile explosion. This

1476
01:31:22,260 --> 01:31:27,660
time over in Nebraska. In fact,
this happened 9pm Local

1477
01:31:27,660 --> 01:31:33,480
yesterday. It even the explosion
even registered a 3.5 magnitude

1478
01:31:34,830 --> 01:31:37,980
on the on the earthquake
measurement systems.

1479
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:41,460
And a link to this article. Yes,
I

1480
01:31:41,460 --> 01:31:47,190
do. And the cruise missile was
shot was fired. It came over.

1481
01:31:47,519 --> 01:31:51,029
What is the cruise missile doing
flying over Nebraska?

1482
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:55,440
It's on its way to Denver. This
is the whole this is the whole

1483
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:59,940
space wars that we're not aware
of the CIA Obama Cabal. And they

1484
01:31:59,940 --> 01:32:03,270
blew it out of the out of the
sky John with a Particle Beam

1485
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:07,890
weapon. So the aliens did you're
saying I don't know the the

1486
01:32:07,890 --> 01:32:10,740
armed forces? Because I thought
we were

1487
01:32:10,740 --> 01:32:14,010
firing it at Denver, which has
now been taken over by aliens.

1488
01:32:15,090 --> 01:32:16,620
I'm gonna get the story
straight.

1489
01:32:16,860 --> 01:32:21,270
I think you're not. But there's
there's two there's multiple

1490
01:32:21,270 --> 01:32:24,480
fractions in the armed forces.
You know, it's not all like

1491
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:27,960
everyone's on the same programme
there. I guess the point of what

1492
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,200
I'm saying is there is
absolutely a space war taking

1493
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:36,270
place. I now kind of have to
believe that the beautiful

1494
01:32:36,270 --> 01:32:45,780
circles we saw over over Norway,
were probably part of a, like a

1495
01:32:45,780 --> 01:32:50,760
conjugate wave device. So these
are all these are all weapons

1496
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:54,240
that have been militarised and
are and are being used right

1497
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:58,320
now. There is some shit going on
that is far beyond what you and

1498
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,380
I can even comprehend because
we've not ever been exposed to

1499
01:33:01,380 --> 01:33:03,570
it. But it's taking place. It's
happening. It's out there. It's

1500
01:33:03,570 --> 01:33:08,250
up there. And also the tapes
were released. I'm not going to

1501
01:33:08,250 --> 01:33:11,160
play him for you. But the tapes
of the Northwest Airlines flight

1502
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:15,840
188 Oh, the sleeping pilots.
Wow. When I listened to the

1503
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,470
actual air traffic control
tapes, these guys were not

1504
01:33:19,470 --> 01:33:22,740
asleep. They were freaked out by
something. And they're not

1505
01:33:22,740 --> 01:33:25,890
talking about it. I will put a
link in the show notes to it.

1506
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,070
You just you could and I I've
listened to pilots on the

1507
01:33:29,070 --> 01:33:32,700
headsets. You know, I know how
pilots talking to like, yeah, we

1508
01:33:32,700 --> 01:33:35,010
got distracted by something
here. I mean, do you listen to

1509
01:33:35,010 --> 01:33:40,020
me like you're blown away by by
what's going on? And and it's

1510
01:33:40,020 --> 01:33:43,620
not like there wasn't calls
going out to them continuously.

1511
01:33:43,620 --> 01:33:47,250
They actually had other aircraft
calling out to them trying to

1512
01:33:47,250 --> 01:33:51,600
reach them. You know, so why No,
no F sixteens were scrambled is

1513
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:57,990
still a huge gaping hole in the
story. And it's and I think that

1514
01:33:57,990 --> 01:34:00,180
they saw something up there they
weren't supposed to

1515
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:08,280
that's always a possibility.
From my my news item that I'm

1516
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:13,290
going to throw out, which is
probably not quite as profound

1517
01:34:13,290 --> 01:34:13,980
is that one

1518
01:34:14,010 --> 01:34:16,230
way it'll be mine. I'll save our
life. Okay,

1519
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:20,880
so police say to dogs fed on
Nebraska owner's body

1520
01:34:27,210 --> 01:34:31,590
young to pugs. Apparently some
owners some guy killed himself

1521
01:34:31,620 --> 01:34:36,030
shot himself and he left the
pugs to their own devices. And

1522
01:34:36,060 --> 01:34:41,220
the pugs ate him over a two week
period. Nice. Now a more

1523
01:34:41,220 --> 01:34:43,320
interesting story. There's
another one this is on the blog,

1524
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:46,830
which is Iraqi insurgents
apparently have been hacking US

1525
01:34:46,830 --> 01:34:50,520
drones Elysium and getting the
video feeds. So these show turns

1526
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,460
out to the you know these
predators, they fly over parts

1527
01:34:53,460 --> 01:34:58,770
of Pakistan or rack wherever and
their drones these are the drone

1528
01:34:58,770 --> 01:35:02,250
aircraft drones the unmanned and
flights they have a camera and

1529
01:35:02,250 --> 01:35:05,700
apparently they managed to hack
the video screen stream using

1530
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:09,750
some Microsoft product. Oh no.
And so they've been putting the

1531
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:12,450
screws if they found out about
this because they got some they

1532
01:35:12,450 --> 01:35:14,820
busted some guy took his laptop
and they found all these

1533
01:35:14,820 --> 01:35:18,930
recordings of the drone flight
patterns. And it turns out that

1534
01:35:18,930 --> 01:35:23,070
when they designed these things,
they never bothered to encrypt

1535
01:35:23,070 --> 01:35:25,920
the video stream. Are you
kidding

1536
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:30,210
me? Like hacked into the video
stream coming from the drone?

1537
01:35:30,420 --> 01:35:33,570
Yeah, and when is when they hack
into the actual drone itself and

1538
01:35:33,570 --> 01:35:37,230
Bahamas with it? I'm not sure
but yeah, so so now they can say

1539
01:35:37,230 --> 01:35:40,620
oh, they're skimming over a
doulas house get back inside

1540
01:35:40,620 --> 01:35:43,350
just in case they see you. Oh my
god.

1541
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,280
That's outrageous. Yeah,
totally.

1542
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,930
And apparently, they this
whatever the software is that

1543
01:35:51,930 --> 01:35:55,380
runs on these things. It's it's
going to be difficult to do

1544
01:35:55,650 --> 01:35:57,540
installing Crusher, which I find
it's hard to

1545
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,560
Windows Media running on
NetSuite

1546
01:36:01,650 --> 01:36:04,860
that comes out half the time you
get like kind of a funny display

1547
01:36:04,860 --> 01:36:06,660
with some animations on it.

1548
01:36:07,349 --> 01:36:10,709
So in the last few episodes I
reviewed for you national

1549
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:13,919
suicide which I don't believe
you read yet John but I highly

1550
01:36:13,919 --> 01:36:20,729
recommend it written by Martin l
gross. Read a brand new

1551
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:33,000
Yes, indeed. New Book, which is
not available on Amazon,

1552
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:37,050
unfortunately, but which I, I am
going to grab a hold on is of

1553
01:36:37,050 --> 01:36:42,720
this called crisis by design,
the untold story of the global

1554
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,720
financial coup and what you can
do about it,

1555
01:36:46,140 --> 01:36:49,680
what you can do about it? Yeah,
do anything about it,

1556
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,680
I think put your head between
your knees and Kiss your ass

1557
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,100
goodbye. That would be it. So
I'm looking forward to receiving

1558
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,800
that book. And this was
suggested by one of our

1559
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:04,590
producers, which is 450,000
strong and growing by now. Keep

1560
01:37:04,590 --> 01:37:08,400
the numbers coming and keep the
donations coming. No no agenda

1561
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:16,830
show.com and dvorak.org/blog Na,
I'm sorry, slash n a. And what

1562
01:37:16,830 --> 01:37:18,360
do you say my friend? I think?

1563
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,370
I think we're done. Well, I

1564
01:37:20,370 --> 01:37:21,480
mean, in the show,

1565
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:25,169
I got one I got one thing to do
one correction. Sure. On the

1566
01:37:25,169 --> 01:37:29,729
last show, the CASPER
milquetoast character was a

1567
01:37:29,729 --> 01:37:34,769
comic strip character grey by HT
Webster in 1924. For his cartoon

1568
01:37:34,769 --> 01:37:38,969
series, the Timid Soul published
in the New York World. When the

1569
01:37:38,969 --> 01:37:42,539
world folded in 1931, the Timid
Soul moved to the New York

1570
01:37:42,539 --> 01:37:45,989
Herald Tribune, where a Sunday
page was eventually added, and I

1571
01:37:45,989 --> 01:37:50,549
guess he was just referred to by
Sinclair or by Sinclair Lewis.

1572
01:37:51,209 --> 01:37:53,219
And anyway, it went on till 1952

1573
01:37:53,340 --> 01:37:57,600
Another $5 word, you can use a
cocktail parties to amaze your

1574
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,330
friends associates and pick up
chicks.

1575
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,209
Yes, because of the popularity
of Webster's character. The term

1576
01:38:03,209 --> 01:38:07,829
milquetoast mi l qu. E to ASD
came into general usage in

1577
01:38:07,829 --> 01:38:12,659
American English to mean weak
and ineffectual and effeminate.

1578
01:38:13,469 --> 01:38:15,539
The little bit meek, submissive,

1579
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:19,440
alright, tonnes more in the show
notes of no agenda

1580
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:23,550
show.com currie.com and
dvorak.org/blog coming to you

1581
01:38:23,550 --> 01:38:27,900
from the minimum containment
cell in the crock pot command

1582
01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:30,840
centre and get my nation West
San Francisco, California. I'm

1583
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:31,590
Adam curry,

1584
01:38:31,890 --> 01:38:34,650
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's sunny, but it's

1585
01:38:34,650 --> 01:38:37,170
supposed to be raining tomorrow
or the next day or the day after

1586
01:38:37,170 --> 01:38:38,940
that. I'm John C. Dvorak.

1587
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,600
We'll see you again on Sunday
for the early service right here

1588
01:38:42,660 --> 01:38:43,500
on no agenda.

