1
00:00:01,260 --> 00:00:04,020
You know, there has to be a
couple of porn stars around here

2
00:00:04,020 --> 00:00:06,660
that would stand around naked
for 300 bucks for five or six

3
00:00:06,660 --> 00:00:09,330
hours. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak.

4
00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,230
It's Thursday, August 20 2009.
Time for your gizmo nation audio

5
00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:18,780
publication episode 123. This is
no agenda coming to you from the

6
00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:22,890
bamboo strutted house tripod
command centre from a deserted

7
00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:27,480
island in Gitmo nation, South
East this time, I'm in Spain.

8
00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,770
I'm Adam curry,

9
00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:34,200
and I'm in what's formerly known
as California may be still

10
00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,280
referred to as the bankrupt
state. I'm John C. Dvorak.

11
00:00:39,060 --> 00:00:45,180
Raglan buzzkill it's funny you
mentioned that like Ron was

12
00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:49,920
telling me that that he got his
tax return from California and

13
00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,120
it was an IOU

14
00:00:51,690 --> 00:00:54,450
Yeah, you mentioned this two or
three shows I did mention that

15
00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,890
but now all these played a horn
Hong Kong Kong that's what you

16
00:00:58,890 --> 00:01:00,090
would do a fight Yeah,

17
00:01:00,090 --> 00:01:02,760
I repeated myself Well, the
thing I I don't think I've

18
00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,040
repeated is that there are these
you know, the sales tax small

19
00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,040
businesses have to pay their
sales tax. And so they've

20
00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:15,630
they're taking the taking their
IOUs the state isn't exactly the

21
00:01:15,630 --> 00:01:18,960
state isn't accepting their IOUs
Oh, really?

22
00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:21,150
They can dish it out but they
can't take it.

23
00:01:21,180 --> 00:01:23,670
Exactly. How lame Oh, is that?

24
00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:27,030
That is ridiculous. If they are
giving you an IOU you should be

25
00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:28,050
able to give it back.

26
00:01:28,079 --> 00:01:32,399
Yeah, no, you can't apparently.
is beautiful here, John.

27
00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:34,770
I'll bet it is.

28
00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:38,100
out there and smokey kept
swinging.

29
00:01:39,330 --> 00:01:42,030
But you just didn't miss it.
You're really going to Ibiza?

30
00:01:42,810 --> 00:01:45,360
No, it's a party in the phone.

31
00:01:46,860 --> 00:01:51,000
Don't do that. We're not in a
BS. We're south of Ibiza.

32
00:01:51,750 --> 00:01:52,740
Ibiza. No, we're

33
00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:54,300
not an Ibiza. I

34
00:01:54,420 --> 00:01:56,610
say that I'm just telling you I
know you're in Ibiza. That's

35
00:01:56,610 --> 00:01:59,340
where you that's why would you
go to any place that close to

36
00:01:59,340 --> 00:02:02,400
Ibiza if you weren't going to
Ibiza, which by the way, it's

37
00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,330
just an out and out drug induced
party. Town. Nothing but

38
00:02:06,330 --> 00:02:08,370
nightclubs. You don't do
anything else that I know of.

39
00:02:08,370 --> 00:02:09,690
But just party. That's why I'm

40
00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:13,080
not going there. That's why I'm
not there. Right now. We are in

41
00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,340
the Bill Ayers, the Belair
islands. And we're south of its

42
00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:23,640
Ibiza as the as the Brits called
Ibiza. We're going to Ibiza. So

43
00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:27,570
we're not an Ibiza. It's for
monterra Look it up on Google

44
00:02:27,870 --> 00:02:32,700
Formentera former hippie Island.
Let's call on the to the stars.

45
00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:37,020
Yeah, great. So let's get in
when you come back. It's going

46
00:02:37,020 --> 00:02:38,970
to be you're going to be
annoying. So let's

47
00:02:40,140 --> 00:02:43,080
only when I come back not before

48
00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:47,730
I ever had such a nice day. I
you know, it's so relaxing. And

49
00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:49,560
I feel like a new man

50
00:02:50,310 --> 00:02:55,560
because it will put seniors in a
position of being put to death

51
00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,550
by their government.

52
00:02:57,810 --> 00:03:00,360
Well, if you're gonna go into
that direction, let's start off

53
00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,600
the show by bringing up some
Sebelius quotes that came from

54
00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,460
last Sunday morning friend
Sebelius

55
00:03:05,460 --> 00:03:08,760
I have not seen anything being a
south of Ibiza.

56
00:03:09,570 --> 00:03:16,860
She it she is creepy. Let's
play. I didn't want to play the

57
00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:20,040
whole thing. But she spent she's
obviously one of the people in

58
00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,760
the notes would go into a talk
show and to just repeat herself

59
00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,940
and like so do you think it's
going to be hard on old people?

60
00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,090
Well, I think it could be hard
on old people it's going to be

61
00:03:30,090 --> 00:03:33,210
hard on a lot of people because
it's just a difficult situation

62
00:03:33,210 --> 00:03:35,910
because it's going to be so
difficult and hard on especially

63
00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:38,220
old people and people that
aren't that old but people are

64
00:03:38,220 --> 00:03:40,860
really old and maybe some people
you know that kind of thing. yak

65
00:03:40,860 --> 00:03:41,190
yak.

66
00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:44,580
Yeah. Sebelius, of course, is
the director of Health and Human

67
00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:45,570
Services services.

68
00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,910
Okay. She reminds me to an
annoying degree of of Carly

69
00:03:50,910 --> 00:03:56,430
Fiorina. Same patronising style
of talking down to you.

70
00:03:56,460 --> 00:04:00,660
Isn't she from California? Isn't
she from the west? Sebelius? No,

71
00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:03,240
no, he had to look it up. Okay.
Okay. So this is

72
00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,190
not going to play the whole
thing. But I just want to play a

73
00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:08,760
couple of things. I want you to
play play Sebelius open to five.

74
00:04:08,850 --> 00:04:12,480
Secretary Sebelius. Thanks for
joining us. Good morning, Jake.

75
00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:15,030
A critics say they're uneasy
about end of life care measures

76
00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:18,090
being discussed within the
context of cost cutting. Can you

77
00:04:18,090 --> 00:04:20,070
understand that discomfort?

78
00:04:20,670 --> 00:04:23,970
Well, I think end of life
discussions are very, very

79
00:04:23,970 --> 00:04:27,720
personal and very difficult,
very difficult for family

80
00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,070
members very difficult often,
for people to confront and my

81
00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:32,940
own mother's fan.

82
00:04:33,660 --> 00:04:37,440
Right there. She goes off the
deep end. She spends five or six

83
00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,440
minutes on, it's you know, it's
very difficult for young people.

84
00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,660
It's very difficult for old
people is very difficult for

85
00:04:42,660 --> 00:04:44,100
families. It's very difficult
for her.

86
00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:47,550
She doesn't answer the question,

87
00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:51,990
though. She never answers the
question. But, but it's actually

88
00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:55,200
worse with some of these other
ones but here's one. This kind

89
00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:01,710
of caught my attention because
this was With a call, I think

90
00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:05,280
it's the, I think it's payment
or payment. Now it will be for

91
00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:09,660
me, I set this up, there's a
clip called payment. And I,

92
00:05:09,750 --> 00:05:12,300
there's a bunch of people
talking about the health care

93
00:05:12,330 --> 00:05:16,980
stuff. And how Obama actually
paved the way to push health

94
00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:20,040
care by doing deals. First, they
analyse what happened with

95
00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,480
Hillary and the people that push
back, the AMA, they help the

96
00:05:24,810 --> 00:05:27,810
insurance companies, the doctors
themselves, everybody, all these

97
00:05:27,810 --> 00:05:30,150
people that wouldn't allow that
thing happen. So they fought

98
00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:34,620
against it. So the idea was that
Obama was going to pave the way.

99
00:05:34,650 --> 00:05:37,770
In other words, you know, set
the stage do the due diligence

100
00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:40,560
to get these guys on board
before he presented anything.

101
00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:45,390
And apparently, now, you know,
the the health care, insurance

102
00:05:45,390 --> 00:05:48,630
companies, the doctors, the
everybody's on board, except the

103
00:05:48,630 --> 00:05:54,390
public, which is kind of the
missing link here. Now, I'm sure

104
00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:57,570
what I'm looking for now, and I
advise anybody else to look for

105
00:05:57,570 --> 00:06:01,530
is what was the quid pro quo,
because obviously, these people

106
00:06:01,530 --> 00:06:03,420
aren't going to just yeah,
whatever. We didn't like it

107
00:06:03,420 --> 00:06:05,820
before. But since you're gonna
do it, we're gonna just be on

108
00:06:05,820 --> 00:06:06,480
board with you.

109
00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:09,540
What do you mean, we didn't like
it before? We didn't like what

110
00:06:09,540 --> 00:06:09,780
Well,

111
00:06:09,810 --> 00:06:12,600
seeing during the Hillary thing,
all these people were against

112
00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,270
the essentially the same health
care programme that she tried to

113
00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:15,690
enter wasn't

114
00:06:15,690 --> 00:06:19,680
exactly the same idea.
Radically. Okay. Yeah, the point

115
00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:19,860
is,

116
00:06:19,860 --> 00:06:23,550
is that they did some deal with
all these people. And I've been

117
00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:26,010
trying to figure out what some
of these deals were and she

118
00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:29,220
gives it away in this long
winded I believe me, you don't

119
00:06:29,220 --> 00:06:31,830
want to play that show would be
over? As she answered that

120
00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:34,410
question. That was the opening
question. But she slips it in

121
00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:38,430
what it was, and I think this
was the quid pro quo for doctors

122
00:06:38,730 --> 00:06:41,490
and play payment, and then I'll
explain it. Okay. So

123
00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:45,240
let me just understand what
we're talking about. So how do

124
00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,780
we get everyone to be on board?
Not the public, but all the

125
00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:51,960
doctors the everyone who was
going to be a part of this

126
00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,290
companies. Everyone, everyone on
board. Now, of course, we know

127
00:06:55,290 --> 00:06:58,440
that Obama did a deal with the
with the with the health care

128
00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,330
providers for 80 $80 billion.
Right. But here's the setup. And

129
00:07:03,330 --> 00:07:04,950
Sebelius lets it slip,

130
00:07:05,130 --> 00:07:09,900
doctors would have a, a payment
provided to sit down with family

131
00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:13,410
members if they choose and, and
have a discussion, we were

132
00:07:13,410 --> 00:07:16,170
desperate to do that there were
way too many specialists in and

133
00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:19,650
out of the room and way too
little time to actually sit with

134
00:07:19,650 --> 00:07:21,300
someone to try to understand,

135
00:07:21,330 --> 00:07:24,480
okay, so it's like a consultancy
fee.

136
00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,190
Show in the olden days, when you
were dying, or your mom was

137
00:07:29,190 --> 00:07:31,110
dying or something was
happening, the doctor would talk

138
00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:33,240
to you about it. And about you
could do this, that and the

139
00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,530
other thing. But now they get
paid. I mean, normally, they

140
00:07:37,530 --> 00:07:39,390
would just do this, because this
is kind of their

141
00:07:39,420 --> 00:07:42,090
jobs or public service, we'll
just we'll talk about all the

142
00:07:42,090 --> 00:07:44,160
options. And we'll sit down. And
before when you

143
00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,980
talk to your doctor, usually
he's not charging you by the

144
00:07:47,010 --> 00:07:51,450
hour. You know, and so now
they've set this thing up. This

145
00:07:51,450 --> 00:07:53,760
is what this whole end of life
thing was all about. It's got

146
00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,430
nothing to do with end of life.
It's a payoff. It's another

147
00:07:56,430 --> 00:07:57,390
insurance code.

148
00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:02,070
Yeah, so just a basically a
bribe. It's like now when the

149
00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:04,440
doctor says, Well, I think your
mom should probably be taken to

150
00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,190
an old folks home. Now they can
build the government for just

151
00:08:08,190 --> 00:08:10,650
telling you that because that's
the whole thing was the scam

152
00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:13,560
that suckered all these or not
sucker, but got the AMA and the

153
00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,930
doctors on board. It's like,
Look, you guys are spending a

154
00:08:15,930 --> 00:08:19,980
lot of time with this, we can
now pay you. You risk complete

155
00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:21,540
completely are just
unbelievable.

156
00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,850
No, it's totally believable,

157
00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,680
because it will not put seniors
in a position of being put to

158
00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,030
death by their government.

159
00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:34,350
Unless you get paid for it. It
is now insurance company code

160
00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:36,150
59732.

161
00:08:36,809 --> 00:08:39,239
So now they get paid for this.
This anyway, I assume that

162
00:08:39,239 --> 00:08:41,219
everyone there's a lot of these
little things you have to read

163
00:08:41,219 --> 00:08:43,319
between the lines. And it's
pretty hard to do. Because you

164
00:08:43,319 --> 00:08:46,769
have to listen to people like
Sebelius who just ramble

165
00:08:46,769 --> 00:08:49,889
forever, but you're repeating
yourself. And she talks real

166
00:08:49,889 --> 00:08:52,619
slow like this. And very
deliberately, she reminds me of

167
00:08:52,619 --> 00:08:55,679
that woman that was on the SEC,
who is trying to answer

168
00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,259
questions as to how the Madoff
thing happened. And she was the

169
00:08:58,259 --> 00:09:05,969
same condescending, creepy,
bureaucratic woman that bears

170
00:09:06,059 --> 00:09:09,599
her name. Now one of the two,
there's a couple of them. But

171
00:09:09,599 --> 00:09:12,539
anyway, now here's a here's a
good example. This is another

172
00:09:12,569 --> 00:09:17,519
clip. And this is a clip of
Sebelius again on this show. And

173
00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:19,889
we're there and apparently I'm
guessing that on a lot of these

174
00:09:19,889 --> 00:09:23,369
morning shows, there's a new guy
taken over just substituting for

175
00:09:23,459 --> 00:09:26,999
Stephanopoulos named Jake
something. forgot his last name,

176
00:09:27,029 --> 00:09:32,099
Jake. Jake, it seems to me that,
you know, if he had listened to

177
00:09:32,099 --> 00:09:34,859
the answer to his question, his
own question, he would have

178
00:09:34,859 --> 00:09:37,139
followed up and said, Well, you
didn't answer my question

179
00:09:37,139 --> 00:09:40,979
because he doesn't answer it.
But I think these people come on

180
00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:44,399
to these morning shows. I just
get the sense of this because he

181
00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:49,379
see it too often. And they
there's a rule you cannot hound

182
00:09:49,379 --> 00:09:52,439
somebody for the answer to a
question they didn't answer. And

183
00:09:52,439 --> 00:09:55,709
in fact, that happened later in
the same show where, where there

184
00:09:55,709 --> 00:09:58,079
were a couple of politicians
that weren't answering the

185
00:09:58,079 --> 00:10:00,179
questions and the two
politicians went after each

186
00:10:00,179 --> 00:10:02,009
other, but the host wouldn't say
anything.

187
00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:05,190
That's the whole the all the
Sunday morning shows no one ever

188
00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:08,610
answers. The question isn't that
they never answer it at all,

189
00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,270
ever.

190
00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:13,380
In some funny way they answer it
by not answering it. But so play

191
00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:14,940
keep old plan.

192
00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:19,169
Oops, I'm sorry, I fucked that
up online. Here we go.

193
00:10:19,409 --> 00:10:21,839
But how can the administration
make the promise that if you

194
00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:25,409
like your insurance plan, you
can keep it when CBO and other

195
00:10:25,529 --> 00:10:28,829
analysts estimate that some
people will be switched from

196
00:10:28,829 --> 00:10:29,879
private to public?

197
00:10:30,179 --> 00:10:33,209
Well, I think Jake, if you if
you think about a marketplace

198
00:10:33,209 --> 00:10:38,519
option, and new plans being
created in Toledo, Ohio, or in

199
00:10:38,519 --> 00:10:42,029
California or in Florida, the
network of doctors is likely to

200
00:10:42,029 --> 00:10:46,289
be pretty identical. A lot of
plans exist in the same

201
00:10:46,289 --> 00:10:51,299
marketplace. And doctors are
part of a variety of networks.

202
00:10:51,299 --> 00:10:55,019
So the idea that you would keep
your own doctor is highly

203
00:10:55,019 --> 00:10:58,409
likely. The other thing about
the the new marketplace is I

204
00:10:58,409 --> 00:11:01,409
think the President is eager to
stabilise the employer

205
00:11:01,409 --> 00:11:04,109
marketplace. Small business
owners right now are dropping

206
00:11:04,109 --> 00:11:08,369
coverage because they can't any
longer afford it, they can't

207
00:11:08,609 --> 00:11:11,729
stay in the market with the new
tax incentives that are part of

208
00:11:11,729 --> 00:11:14,909
health reform, small business
owners would be encouraged to

209
00:11:14,909 --> 00:11:17,339
actually stabilise their
insurance.

210
00:11:17,429 --> 00:11:20,189
So in other words, yeah, you
won't be able to keep your

211
00:11:20,189 --> 00:11:22,889
doctor but you probably will get
your doctor because these these

212
00:11:22,889 --> 00:11:25,289
doctors are all part of the
network. They're all part. Yeah.

213
00:11:25,290 --> 00:11:28,230
But question was, can you keep
your old plan? It had nothing to

214
00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:31,920
do with keeping your old doctor
that was assumed? She never

215
00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,080
answers the question. She
doesn't even come close. She

216
00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,900
goes right off the track
immediately. And then I like the

217
00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,120
wishes. You know, it could be
like, you know, the weather

218
00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,480
changing things in Toledo, Ohio,
or California. It's

219
00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,440
the old politician.

220
00:11:43,859 --> 00:11:44,939
Just stalling.

221
00:11:44,999 --> 00:11:49,769
Yeah, I know. I recently a man
came up to me. His name was Pete

222
00:11:49,769 --> 00:11:52,889
and he's from Toledo, Ohio. And
he said, Can I keep my old plan?

223
00:11:52,889 --> 00:11:57,269
He said, Well, your doctor will
be a part of the network. It's

224
00:11:57,269 --> 00:11:58,199
unbelievable.

225
00:11:59,580 --> 00:12:02,730
You wonder why people are up in
arms is because these guys, this

226
00:12:02,940 --> 00:12:07,500
group of people are the biggest
double talkers. I've seen. I

227
00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:09,210
mean, they're worse than the
bush people the bush because

228
00:12:09,210 --> 00:12:12,060
they Well, screw. Yeah. I mean,
they were at least pretty blunt.

229
00:12:12,570 --> 00:12:14,550
Well, let's just double talk

230
00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,790
on the thing that people have to
understand. And I think

231
00:12:17,790 --> 00:12:20,520
listeners of this show are kind
of catching on. But the

232
00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,670
discussion is just being taken
away from what's really going

233
00:12:23,670 --> 00:12:31,680
on, is that healthcare is 1718,
almost a fifth of our, of our

234
00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:37,680
economy. It's a huge amount of
money. And all of the the

235
00:12:37,710 --> 00:12:40,320
insurance companies, which of
course, is Wall Street,

236
00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,680
pharmaceutical companies,
they've all done it, they have

237
00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:47,280
bought and paid for every single
politician, including our

238
00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,460
president, and now they're
coming they're coming for their

239
00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,130
for their druthers, they're
coming for the payoff. And this

240
00:12:53,130 --> 00:12:56,760
is what it's been about. This is
what as you said, Hillary

241
00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,180
Clinton tried to do when she was
the first lady, I might add, she

242
00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:00,630
wasn't

243
00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,220
a politician was even

244
00:13:02,220 --> 00:13:06,840
a public lawyer. She was just
just a lawyer and a wife who got

245
00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:12,120
cheated on. And, and was clearly
a part of the plan. This is all

246
00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,080
about money. And we don't see it
anymore. We just gloss over it.

247
00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,720
And I do love the fact that
people are standing up and I

248
00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,210
think it's right when people are
saying give me my country back.

249
00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:23,700
Because they're starting to
catch on, you know, hey, wait a

250
00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:26,280
minute, this, this is not about
health care. This is about the

251
00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,530
system being so broken, so
morally bankrupt, that we're

252
00:13:31,530 --> 00:13:36,210
just we're not even talking
about the real issue anymore.

253
00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:41,310
I think these people should stay
off the air. If they're going to

254
00:13:41,310 --> 00:13:44,100
be this way with these kinds of
answers they need. In other

255
00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:48,210
words, non answers over this
long patronising in Ohio and

256
00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,770
Florida and California. And, you
know, on and on and on droning

257
00:13:52,770 --> 00:13:55,800
under me You have no idea how
boring this woman is with this,

258
00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,040
but it's so patronising and smug
and then she doesn't answer the

259
00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,720
questions. It's just really bugs
me just, you know, stay off the

260
00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,950
air. Don't do these shows. You
don't have to go up there and

261
00:14:07,950 --> 00:14:08,340
yeah.

262
00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,680
I'm sorry, John. I had to get
something really important.

263
00:14:15,090 --> 00:14:18,780
Tough times in the porn industry
reports the Los Angeles Times.

264
00:14:19,950 --> 00:14:24,090
the porn industry is broke.
John. It's gotten so bad that

265
00:14:24,090 --> 00:14:28,410
Savannah, you know, Savannah,
right. Savannah Stern is doing

266
00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:32,520
seven hours of standing around
naked for a hustler party in

267
00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,790
Santa Monica for 300 bucks.
There is no more porn being

268
00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:38,790
produced. John, this is a
serious problem, though.

269
00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:43,050
Yeah, yeah. In addition parties
up here.

270
00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,080
We could get Savannah for three.
Hey, that's what finally we have

271
00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,380
a use for this money. Let's get
Savannah up to San Francisco.

272
00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,600
Excellent idea. I love it.

273
00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,610
You know, there has to be a
couple of porn stars around here

274
00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:59,280
that would stand around naked
for 300 bucks for five or six

275
00:14:59,280 --> 00:14:59,730
hours.

276
00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,940
I I think, yeah, well, we could
get one at your place one at my

277
00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:05,520
place just for an hour and a
half during the show. Just stand

278
00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,180
around naked.

279
00:15:06,210 --> 00:15:11,100
I'm standing there. And can you
get me some tea? Sure.

280
00:15:14,250 --> 00:15:16,920
This is this is really, this is
really a problem.

281
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,700
Bogus stories, you're not
standing around for six hours

282
00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:21,600
for 300 bucks,

283
00:15:21,630 --> 00:15:24,930
at least five of the top 100
websites in the US are portals

284
00:15:24,930 --> 00:15:27,900
for free pornography, which of
course is a good thing for the

285
00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:32,310
consumer referred to in the
industry as tube sites.

286
00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:36,870
According to internet traffic
ranking service alexa.com, which

287
00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:39,270
of course, which is not very
good. No, in this case is

288
00:15:39,270 --> 00:15:42,600
actually appropriate because
Alexa is used by system admins.

289
00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,870
And of course, these are the
guys love them dearly. But you

290
00:15:45,870 --> 00:15:48,960
know, what our system admins
doing all day downloading porn.

291
00:15:49,650 --> 00:15:52,770
Some of the content is amateur
work uploaded by users, which of

292
00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:55,440
course is the way that's the
wave of the future.

293
00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,740
Who are all these people? Have
you ever thought about that? You

294
00:15:59,010 --> 00:16:01,260
you've stumbled onto one he
said, there's like a million

295
00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:04,320
people, you know, naked, doing
all kinds of weird things. And

296
00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,410
you have to say, Do I actually
know any of these people? Are

297
00:16:07,410 --> 00:16:10,980
they working in the in the
cubicle next to me? Are they in

298
00:16:11,010 --> 00:16:14,310
the city? I mean, there's so
what is the hundreds of 1000s of

299
00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:17,820
people that are exposing
themselves?

300
00:16:18,570 --> 00:16:22,710
I think it's a very good
development. I'm all for it.

301
00:16:23,070 --> 00:16:27,930
There's nothing wrong with that.
I do have something that goes

302
00:16:27,930 --> 00:16:34,530
right along with that. John, Sir
David Attenborough. The famous

303
00:16:34,530 --> 00:16:41,220
British broadcaster, explore et
cetera, has discovered a new

304
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:48,210
species of carnivores plant. It
is a giant meat eating plant so

305
00:16:48,210 --> 00:16:54,270
big it can actually eat small
rodents. And they found this on

306
00:16:54,270 --> 00:16:57,870
their expedition in the
Philippines. So now they're,

307
00:16:59,070 --> 00:17:03,090
they've given it a name, the
Nepenthez Attenborough ally, and

308
00:17:03,090 --> 00:17:06,870
Bri Of course, named after Sir
David Attenborough. This thing

309
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:13,710
is outrageous. A plant that eats
rodents. It's almost like what

310
00:17:13,710 --> 00:17:15,990
was the name of that? That
movie? Like a Rocky Horror

311
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:22,260
Picture Show Movie? Little Rocky
Horror, Little Shop of Horrors.

312
00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:28,590
Here. Take a look at it. This is
the BBC it's an awesome plant.

313
00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:33,510
And it's kind of freaky, though.
Anything that? Is this a new

314
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:37,200
plant? I mean, has it been
around for a while? Is it just

315
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,720
everybody looking? Is this
evolution?

316
00:17:40,770 --> 00:17:42,990
Well, it's like there's a
similar look and plant that eats

317
00:17:42,990 --> 00:17:46,950
flies. Yeah, it looks like a
funnel and flies are attracted

318
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:50,310
to some goo inside and then they
go down and they find yourself

319
00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:55,200
stuck in there. It's a pitcher
plant to just a large pitcher

320
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,620
plant

321
00:17:55,650 --> 00:17:58,680
right except I wonder if you
stick your hand in there will

322
00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,090
happen well, I mean, does it How

323
00:18:00,090 --> 00:18:02,790
does it get crap all over your
hands? You wouldn't like it

324
00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:03,870
probably stinks.

325
00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:07,950
No, but I mean, if it can
dissolve a rodent like a rat, I

326
00:18:07,950 --> 00:18:08,160
mean,

327
00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:11,340
it takes a while though they get
these things get stuck in there

328
00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,710
for a long time. These are very
slow processes. plants aren't

329
00:18:13,710 --> 00:18:14,550
fast moving.

330
00:18:16,260 --> 00:18:17,070
You right.

331
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,960
Sounds like chewing them up.

332
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,690
Well, that's kind of the dream.
Yeah, right. That's much much

333
00:18:24,690 --> 00:18:24,990
much

334
00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:29,460
more interesting in the same
articles is unidentified? Yeah,

335
00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:31,800
the fun that is a gorgeous
looking mushroom.

336
00:18:31,950 --> 00:18:33,000
It is nice, isn't it?

337
00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:36,870
It's blue. It's a solid blue
mushroom this you should put

338
00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:38,520
this in the show notes just
saying see the mushroom.

339
00:18:39,390 --> 00:18:43,770
I shall. I found a clip and
maybe this is what you had seen

340
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,450
on Current TV but just because
we were harping on Laura Ling

341
00:18:48,450 --> 00:18:53,070
and Euna Lee, these of course,
the two reporters who were

342
00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:58,050
dumbfounded and shocked that
they were taken into custody

343
00:18:58,050 --> 00:19:03,180
sneaking across the border of
North Korea. And of course, we

344
00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:06,750
now know that this is a total
current TV setup to get some

345
00:19:06,750 --> 00:19:10,500
more ratings because their IPO
failed and Al Gore called his

346
00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:12,780
buddy bill and said hey man,
hook us up. Can you do me a

347
00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:17,490
solid? Did you see this? This
clip of them thanking everyone

348
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:17,910
John?

349
00:19:20,430 --> 00:19:21,750
I don't know. I probably did.
But

350
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,560
you just I just want you to
listen to it. It's it's just

351
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,070
funny.

352
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,370
This isn't the one where she's
whining and well, this

353
00:19:29,370 --> 00:19:32,940
isn't the two of them sitting
together on this I have not seen

354
00:19:33,030 --> 00:19:37,500
okay. It's so they get a little
setup here about them being

355
00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:41,880
detained for 140 days in North
Korea now. Laura and Yuna return

356
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,630
home

357
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,880
to all of the people who
supported you and me throughout

358
00:19:47,910 --> 00:19:52,590
the nearly five months that we
are in. We were in captivity. We

359
00:19:52,590 --> 00:19:52,980
wanted to

360
00:19:53,610 --> 00:19:58,470
keep listening to her. It's all
the letters and postcards you

361
00:19:58,530 --> 00:20:03,060
sent us. gave us strength to
endure the difficult time. Well,

362
00:20:03,060 --> 00:20:05,400
you really you really got to
watch it though, John. Because

363
00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:09,030
what's her name? Laura? I guess
she's on Alicia. She's so

364
00:20:09,030 --> 00:20:12,480
sincere. I mean, yeah, sure to
kind of suck being in a hotel

365
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,510
for four and a half months. But
still, you crossed the border of

366
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:17,610
North Korea to do a story.

367
00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:23,460
Yeah, like you just said we
would receive letters and, and

368
00:20:23,460 --> 00:20:26,760
they were getting mailed
letters, how much people were

369
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,480
supporting us. We learned about
this grassroots movement on

370
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,470
Facebook, about people writing
into their congressmen to

371
00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:39,060
the grassroots movement on
Facebook. Don't you love

372
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,320
these? This? These people make
me sick?

373
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:45,120
Wait, there's more.

374
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,400
We learned about the blog site
liberate Laura. And

375
00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:54,450
which I think is also a porn
movie liberate Laura, I'm not

376
00:20:54,450 --> 00:20:55,680
too sure. I think I've seen

377
00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,480
that all around the country.
These rituals were taking place

378
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,440
around the time of our trial.
And we thought about those

379
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:10,710
lights. And, and they gave us
hope. And we are so so very

380
00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:12,840
grateful for all of your love
and support.

381
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,000
We're so happy to be back with
our families. So it was a tough

382
00:21:18,030 --> 00:21:26,850
time in our lives. And we will
see you in time. But right now

383
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,330
we want to go back to our normal
life. And

384
00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:33,960
oh, so what they're saying is
the special is coming so they're

385
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,180
producing the big special Java
Yeah,

386
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,740
there'll be a book deal two Oh,
book deal. It'll be you're gonna

387
00:21:40,740 --> 00:21:42,990
get a Pulitzer Of course, of
course.

388
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,780
But but in the meantime, we just
had to say thank you, and

389
00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:52,800
express our deepest gratitude.
We are so so humbled. Thank you.

390
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,130
So

391
00:21:53,130 --> 00:21:54,090
so so

392
00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:56,790
so, so so so so

393
00:21:57,090 --> 00:21:59,700
they like to use the word so so

394
00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:02,520
that's that's to say it's not
just a little it's so

395
00:22:03,090 --> 00:22:06,750
it's, it's a lot so nice. It's
so good. It's so just like you

396
00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:13,440
know, blather Georgia lawmakers,
the Georgia lawmaker calls for

397
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,550
the caning and execution of
marijuana offenders.

398
00:22:18,780 --> 00:22:22,560
Gee, I quit just in time.
Representative Benton

399
00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:27,240
from Georgia. Tommy Benton looks
like a character when you see

400
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,650
him he's on his own on his own
websites he's yakking away. I am

401
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,410
opposed to the legalisation of
marijuana. He says I think we

402
00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:38,910
should go to caning for people
caught using it and maybe

403
00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:40,470
execute dealers.

404
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,830
Fantastic. He says it

405
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:47,130
works in Singapore. I like it
people will always rationalise

406
00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:51,030
things work in Singapore.
Singapore is a fascist state is

407
00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:52,320
that what you want?

408
00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:56,130
A good caning is nice from

409
00:22:56,190 --> 00:22:59,610
there's no guns in Singapore
either Benton you want that to

410
00:22:59,610 --> 00:23:03,150
you want to you know get rid of
all the guns in the world.

411
00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:04,680
Is he a Democrat or Republican?

412
00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:11,970
Well, let's see. He's a I think
he's well i if off the top of my

413
00:23:11,970 --> 00:23:15,450
head I guessing he's a
Republican who probably doesn't

414
00:23:15,450 --> 00:23:19,350
want guns either. So they should
all you gun guys. You should

415
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,200
write him a nasty note because
obviously we think Singapore is

416
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,780
that solution. But

417
00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:30,180
here's a story that we missed
John and he's a Republican. Yeah

418
00:23:30,180 --> 00:23:35,070
figures. This is from our buddy
Andrew or Loski from the

419
00:23:35,070 --> 00:23:44,520
register. This is quite amazing
to me. The cru, the climactic

420
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:50,190
Research Unit, which of course,
has provided the global climate

421
00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:55,260
data set which is the most cited
surface temperature record kept

422
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,780
by the IPCC from the UN. So
basically, this is the data that

423
00:24:00,870 --> 00:24:05,220
the phoney baloney scientists I
just I can't wait for the email.

424
00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:09,300
The phoney baloney scientists of
the United Nations IPCC of which

425
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:12,750
not all were climatologist, and
of course, there's now you know,

426
00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:16,530
eight 9000 other real
climatologist who are against

427
00:24:16,530 --> 00:24:19,590
this research. So this was the
research that was used that led

428
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:23,070
to eventually An Inconvenient
Truth and, of course, all the

429
00:24:23,070 --> 00:24:28,770
way down to the cap and trade
legislation and has sparked all

430
00:24:28,770 --> 00:24:33,360
this global warming unrest. They
say they no longer have the raw

431
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:39,930
data. They don't have the raw
data anymore. There was a number

432
00:24:39,930 --> 00:24:42,420
of freedom of information
requests that were submitted.

433
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,130
For the raw data of USA they
they're the ones that keep all

434
00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:51,270
the historical data have surface
temperatures, and here was what

435
00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:54,390
they say. We are not in a
position to supply data for a

436
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:57,030
particular country not covered
by the example agreements

437
00:24:57,030 --> 00:25:00,120
referred to earlier, as we have
never had sufficient we use

438
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:03,390
sources to keep track of the
exact source of each individual

439
00:25:03,390 --> 00:25:08,520
monthly value. Apparently they
don't have USB drives. Since the

440
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,820
1980s. We have merged the data
that we have received into

441
00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:16,170
existing series or begun new
ones. So it's impossible to say

442
00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:19,020
if all stations with a
particular country or if all

443
00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:21,510
individual records would be
freely available data and

444
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:25,440
storage availability in the
1980s meant we were not able to

445
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,400
keep the multiple sources for
sites, only the station series

446
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,470
after adjustment for hump
homogeneity issues. We therefore

447
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:38,370
do not looking at homogeneity
with I think I've done that with

448
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,550
someone who wants we therefore
do not hold the original raw

449
00:25:41,550 --> 00:25:46,230
data, but only the value added
ie homogenised data.

450
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:51,240
manipulated want to use that
word? Yeah.

451
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,330
Oh, that just blows me away.

452
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,010
That's a good one from orlofsky.

453
00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:58,290
That's the fence. It's awesome.

454
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,160
So it's weird that you had to
read stuff like that in the

455
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,060
register?

456
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,620
Well, I read the register a lot
because it rocks. Because it's

457
00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:08,910
such a great publication.

458
00:26:08,910 --> 00:26:11,970
But it seems to me, you know,
can we donate to the register

459
00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:14,700
how to make money? They make
plenty, but they make more money

460
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,090
than we do. Oh, really? Should
be donating to us.

461
00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:24,060
So yeah, so the headline is
global warming eight my data,

462
00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:28,050
we've lost the numbers as cru.
As they respond to Freedom of

463
00:26:28,050 --> 00:26:31,020
Information request, the world's
source for global temperature

464
00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:34,320
records, admits it's lost or
destroyed all the original data

465
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,950
that would allow third party
lost or destroyed. Yeah. Well,

466
00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:41,400
that's what he said jobs lost or
destroyed, data lost or

467
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,700
destroyed. So this is the actual
data that spawned this whole

468
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:48,090
global global warming debate. It
is no longer available because

469
00:26:48,090 --> 00:26:51,840
of the 92 a 1980s. We didn't
have enough money to buy hard

470
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,120
drives. That's basically what

471
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,270
he's saying. That's written on a
piece of paper.

472
00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:04,830
Yeah. printed out. Unbelievable.
Yeah, that'll never see the

473
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:06,810
light of day. No one will talk
about that.

474
00:27:08,010 --> 00:27:10,680
So I was reading this. There's a
we have a bunch of these

475
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,470
alternative newspapers in the
Bay Area. Lots of them actually

476
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:17,340
like the Guardian, The Guardian,
the East Bay express the

477
00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:20,100
guardian. There's a whole slew
of them they got all kinds of

478
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:21,180
sex ads in there.

479
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,470
Yeah, they seem to survive with
sex ads. Yeah, cuz I'm reading

480
00:27:25,470 --> 00:27:29,040
this story I just kind of this
this just chain of small

481
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,090
restaurants called Cafe
gratitude. And some woman which

482
00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:35,880
may be the place you and Mickey
ate at.

483
00:27:36,930 --> 00:27:39,060
Oh, I live I live on

484
00:27:39,690 --> 00:27:42,330
no lives different okay. Anyway,
they went on and on she and

485
00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:45,270
apparently somebody quit or some
because they make everybody take

486
00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:50,010
a landmark forum seminars, which
turned out to be landmark

487
00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:54,510
education grew out of Earhart's
seminar training, the ESP group

488
00:27:54,510 --> 00:27:58,530
est, which is very notorious in
the 70s and 80s. And as you

489
00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:02,820
know, it's essentially teaching
you to be a robot for the

490
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:06,480
company. And so I'm looking at
so I got the biggest kick out of

491
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,990
it, and it's like becoming very
controversial. So I'm looking at

492
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:13,470
the Yelp reviews of Cafe
gratitude and this one review

493
00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:18,720
comes up at the top here it says
crack me up. Just from Sherry G

494
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,080
out of Los Angeles. Everyone
here is so happy seriously, like

495
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,650
not a fake happy but a genuine
happy not what kind of a

496
00:28:28,650 --> 00:28:32,580
restaurant review is this? My
friend ordered something from

497
00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:36,570
something called an I am
magnificent chocolate mousse and

498
00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:42,180
she chi or chi tea, which I
cannot remember the chai tea for

499
00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:44,970
I cannot remember the cute name
for everything about this place

500
00:28:44,970 --> 00:28:49,260
is literally instant peace down
to the servers who want who went

501
00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:52,440
around asking everyone the
question of the day Fridays

502
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,050
question. What are you thankful
for? I mean, can you imagine

503
00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:01,800
eating at a place like this with
a bunch of colour? You know?

504
00:29:02,730 --> 00:29:06,060
Where is this grey on your face
and gas? You stupid ask

505
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:06,570
questions.

506
00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:10,470
John, let's go. We gotta go
there. This is awesome.

507
00:29:10,770 --> 00:29:12,570
Unfortunately, we do now.

508
00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:16,230
We got to go and record it.
First time in our restaurant

509
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:19,050
review history, we have to go
record it. It's gonna be great.

510
00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:26,040
Bring the bring the G two or the
h2, the h2 record. It'll

511
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,970
be a fabulous

512
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,360
interview or you know, the girl
when she comes up and asks comes

513
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880
over and says, If you were a
tree, what kind of tree would

514
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,480
you be? I will just ask her.
What country would you be?

515
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:40,140
What are you thankful for?
That's like Thanksgiving. They

516
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:41,730
would do that where you go
around the table and they want

517
00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:43,110
us to say what they're thankful
for.

518
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:44,880
No, God, no.

519
00:29:46,110 --> 00:29:49,020
That's my family. That's what my
family does. Now. Let's all hold

520
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:52,380
hands and share and share a
secret. Yeah, every single

521
00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:57,480
Thanksgiving. That's what they
do. That's what they do. Like we

522
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,660
also were thankful for. Come on.
That's nice. is the American

523
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:01,380
way, John?

524
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,470
Sounds like the Dutch way? No,
dude, I

525
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:05,580
have no Dutch family.

526
00:30:06,270 --> 00:30:09,210
I'm sure that there are some
families that sit around doing

527
00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:12,120
that that bit even though
Thanksgiving is like a fake

528
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,920
holiday was actually created
long after its invention, which

529
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,700
is actually good came and went
in the 1800s finally made into

530
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:24,840
like a permanent holiday by
Abraham Lincoln. And it had to

531
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,290
do with being thankful for this
for the end of the Civil War and

532
00:30:28,290 --> 00:30:31,200
in fact into soldiers that you
know, fought and that's what it

533
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,710
was about. It wasn't about
Pilgrims and Indians and turkeys

534
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:40,500
and corn. Really? Yeah, really.
And so then you find it

535
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:44,550
somewhere and morphed into this
bogus holiday about Pilgrims and

536
00:30:44,550 --> 00:30:47,910
Indians and corn. And they you
can find references to these

537
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:51,690
little potluck that they
apparently had back when that

538
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,600
said dead people that try to
sell the on the holiday. Oh, no,

539
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,020
it is it's about that. It's not
about technically Thanksgiving,

540
00:30:58,020 --> 00:31:00,570
which was put into play by
Abraham Lincoln. And it had to

541
00:31:00,570 --> 00:31:03,180
do with thanking us for the end
of the war and that then the

542
00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,060
soldiers who sacrificed
themselves had nothing to do

543
00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:10,680
with Pilgrims and Indians and,
and they meanwhile, the kids in

544
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,280
school are propagandise about
this fake holiday. It's

545
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,880
unbelievable to me. It's a pet
peeve Hold

546
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,260
on. Wait a minute, you caught me
off guard. There we go.

547
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,250
According to Wikipedia, which of
course is the Bible,

548
00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:33,120
Thanksgiving Day is a harvest
festival. Traditionally, it is

549
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,180
time to give thanks for the
harvest and express gratitude in

550
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:39,900
general. It is a holiday
celebrated primarily in Canada

551
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:43,290
and the United States. Well,
perhaps religious and origin.

552
00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:47,190
Thanksgiving is now primarily
identified as a secular holiday.

553
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:51,330
How can why wiki pedia disagrees
with you, John.

554
00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:54,780
They don't do a little history.
Have a historian go in there and

555
00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:56,730
fix that piece of crap. Well,
maybe

556
00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:58,500
you should go in and fix that
piece of paper. I

557
00:31:58,500 --> 00:31:59,880
don't know. Yeah, I just did.

558
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,860
Though the earliest attested
Thanksgiving celebration was on

559
00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:10,290
September 8 1565. in what is now
St. Augustine, Florida. The

560
00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:14,760
traditional first Thanksgiving
is venerated as having occurred

561
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:20,010
at the site of Plymouth
Plantation in 1621. Yeah, right.

562
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:24,450
So you're saying that this was
Abraham Lincoln? Hmm. Yep.

563
00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:26,880
That's fascinating. There's

564
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,190
a very good history actually, I
think if you go to divorce

565
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:33,690
iq.org/blog I think we have the
outline of the history of

566
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:37,830
thanksgiving. I'll go dig it up
and repost it. I usually post it

567
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:41,190
every year in November. My kids
are aware of it and they argue

568
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:44,790
with their teachers in school of
course now their wish to get him

569
00:32:44,790 --> 00:32:49,020
into nothing but trouble. Yeah.
Heaven forbid that any real

570
00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:52,800
facts emerge from the from the
educational environment. October

571
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:56,400
3. October well document

572
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,500
Yes. Yes. October 3 1863.
President Abraham Lincoln says a

573
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:06,270
proclamation this is the the
hero proclamation which set the

574
00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:08,850
precedent for America's national
day of Thanksgiving during his

575
00:33:08,850 --> 00:33:11,130
administration, President
Lincoln issued many orders like

576
00:33:11,130 --> 00:33:17,940
this and here's the whole
proclamation for this day of

577
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:21,240
Thanksgiving. So it's actually
October 3, what are we doing

578
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,530
third, third third? Thursday
November What the hell is and

579
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:25,650
you

580
00:33:25,650 --> 00:33:28,680
follow the history of it and get
it kind of bounces around a lot

581
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,480
and then somebody set it in
stone and

582
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:34,080
I believe anything I'm taught in
school now this is this is a

583
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,620
gyp?

584
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,080
Well, now I'm not gonna
celebrate anymore because I'm

585
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,860
not thankful

586
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,980
for it, that's why I'm sorry, I
gotta get set up this cornball

587
00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:52,920
idea that I'm going to sit
around the table with a bunch of

588
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,490
relatives I probably don't like
and tell them what I'm thankful

589
00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:57,780
for. They can go look it up.

590
00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:02,820
Wait, I have to play it again.
That's so good. John Cena borax.

591
00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:06,990
I'm gonna do that this
Thanksgiving. When we all around

592
00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:09,570
the table, and we're gonna say
what we're thanks for. I'm gonna

593
00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:13,470
say I'm very thankful for
President Abraham Lincoln. On

594
00:34:13,470 --> 00:34:17,310
October 3 1863 proclaimed the
following and I'm just going to

595
00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:20,100
go through this whole thing. And
I say and by the way you did

596
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:24,510
gypped you were just gypped This
has nothing to do with Pilgrims

597
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:27,840
and Indians and corn and
turkeys. How the turkeys get in

598
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,140
there by

599
00:34:28,139 --> 00:34:30,629
the way how you were scammed.
Jerrica What do you how do you

600
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:35,639
think they got into some poultry
guy dream now? What are we gonna

601
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,309
do with these damn birds? These
things are like huge they were

602
00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:41,489
impossible. Nobody wants to eat
them every day. They did. Well,

603
00:34:41,489 --> 00:34:43,709
I got an idea. Hey,

604
00:34:43,739 --> 00:34:46,169
let's let's add them on to that
Thanksgiving Day.

605
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,929
I like talking about turkeys. I
might as well mention this then.

606
00:34:49,229 --> 00:34:52,139
Which is that people out there
who you know you the problem

607
00:34:52,139 --> 00:34:55,889
with Turkey is like it's been
bred to be this huge breasted

608
00:34:55,889 --> 00:34:59,039
things that can't even stand up
without breaking their legs. And

609
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:01,679
then they get butchered. heard
him sent out and for the one

610
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:04,919
woman after the president
pardons one of them that's my

611
00:35:06,269 --> 00:35:08,099
favourite you get pardoned dude

612
00:35:08,819 --> 00:35:12,269
and so anyway these stupid birds
they go out and by the way

613
00:35:12,269 --> 00:35:14,579
they're wild around here I saw
one flying flying over the

614
00:35:14,579 --> 00:35:16,769
freeway and apparently in San
Ramon there's they're all over

615
00:35:16,769 --> 00:35:20,399
the rooftops these things are
nuisances there's wild turkeys

616
00:35:20,399 --> 00:35:23,099
in particular but and it's
frightening when they you see

617
00:35:23,099 --> 00:35:25,619
him flying because they only get
about six feet off the ground

618
00:35:26,309 --> 00:35:28,649
and I saw one flying over the
freeway and if I would have hit

619
00:35:28,649 --> 00:35:31,289
it I would have the car would
have blown up I mean it seems

620
00:35:31,319 --> 00:35:37,019
just as big giant thing. Anyway
so the turkey over time they've

621
00:35:37,019 --> 00:35:39,149
been breeding and breeding and
breeding them so they you know,

622
00:35:39,179 --> 00:35:42,449
maximum white meat and all the
rest of it. They take they taste

623
00:35:42,449 --> 00:35:46,199
like crap they're doing
horribly, horrible Turkey

624
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,689
flavour that just annoying. You
can only eat it once a year

625
00:35:48,689 --> 00:35:53,939
because it's due aftertaste
lasts for months. So we always

626
00:35:53,939 --> 00:35:56,969
get heirloom, which I'm sure
they're trying to kill out

627
00:35:56,969 --> 00:35:59,969
heirloom turkeys from various
growers and you can get some of

628
00:35:59,969 --> 00:36:02,669
these classic turkeys that were
actually the turkeys they were

629
00:36:02,669 --> 00:36:03,839
eating and at

630
00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:06,659
1863 Sure. And

631
00:36:06,749 --> 00:36:10,769
I'll tell you, they taste like
pheasant. They're delicious.

632
00:36:11,579 --> 00:36:14,429
With the first time I had one I
went holy crap. This tastes

633
00:36:14,459 --> 00:36:17,129
more. This tastes a lot more
like pheasant than it tastes

634
00:36:17,129 --> 00:36:21,959
like turkey. It had very little
that horrible Turkey taste. It

635
00:36:21,959 --> 00:36:25,709
was just a fantastic product. It
was just a great bird. I mean,

636
00:36:25,709 --> 00:36:28,829
they don't. Obviously there was
a more natural bird without

637
00:36:28,829 --> 00:36:32,249
these giant breasts. And it was
you know, you'd have more meat

638
00:36:32,249 --> 00:36:35,819
than a goose. But it was It
wasn't one of these commercial,

639
00:36:36,449 --> 00:36:38,099
horrible tasting things.

640
00:36:38,189 --> 00:36:40,229
You said bird with giant breast.

641
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,979
Anyway, that's my turkey story.

642
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,129
You're gonna be more on holidays
you can debunk

643
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,309
besides Mother's Day and
Father's Day and the Hallmark

644
00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:51,089
reading company.

645
00:36:52,739 --> 00:36:54,629
Those don't count Valentine's
Day.

646
00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:59,100
Valentine's Day. I think that's
Hallmark too. Yeah, probably is

647
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:01,410
that wasn't somebody that used
to really know how to market

648
00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:05,520
itself. I mean, Hallmark were at
some point there was a genius at

649
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,890
Hallmark that could dream up all
this stuff and make you know

650
00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:11,130
sell cards. I mean, let's face
it. What is a Hallmark card it's

651
00:37:11,130 --> 00:37:14,790
like a card that somebody prints
that is like at some stupid

652
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:16,860
thing because you're you can't
think of anything creative

653
00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:20,580
yourself. So you buy a card and
you stick it in an envelope and

654
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:24,060
it cost you like you know the
dollar and it's like you can't

655
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:26,910
you just write a note or you
know make a little drawing or

656
00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:28,440
something I'm busy personal
life.

657
00:37:29,099 --> 00:37:34,859
I feel so bad for Mimi. She gets
like a little stick figure card

658
00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:37,469
No wonder you don't get laid
you're there's no romantic in

659
00:37:37,469 --> 00:37:42,299
you John this is usually
actually send a car and

660
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,150
make her own cars and my
daughter makes beautiful cards.

661
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:49,290
And we all make our own cars we
don't do any of this crap. I run

662
00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:52,170
into a lot of people where's the
card? Where's the card? I get to

663
00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:53,970
have a card my mother's like a
big card.

664
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,140
I can just see the divorce like
family around February 12

665
00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:01,320
sitting around the table making
cards for each other it's just a

666
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,920
hard heartwarming visual I get
from John it's it's really nice.

667
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,780
It's beautiful. So are you
familiar with Robert bend mache?

668
00:38:13,739 --> 00:38:16,649
No, he works for you. He does.

669
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:22,800
Yeah, he does. He is the new CEO
of AIG. So yeah, he works for

670
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,680
me. Yeah, well, he doesn't
actually because what did he do

671
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:34,890
48 hours after being installed
as the new CEO quit almost he

672
00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:37,950
went on vacation to his 8000
square foot villa on the

673
00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:39,630
Adriatic Sea for two weeks

674
00:38:39,989 --> 00:38:43,949
on vacation I've worked with
people like that that's my job

675
00:38:43,949 --> 00:38:45,329
I'm going on vacation

676
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:52,020
is in this place is amazing.
He's got outrageous pad Who is

677
00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:54,120
this Robert dead mushy anyway,
what

678
00:38:54,749 --> 00:38:57,029
we're gonna have to look into
him sounds like I got looking

679
00:38:57,029 --> 00:39:01,619
into I mean, anyone has the
balls to like take a job and

680
00:39:01,619 --> 00:39:05,009
then rush off to vacation
immediately has got it is it I

681
00:39:05,069 --> 00:39:06,299
admire people like that.

682
00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:11,820
Let's see Forbes profile and
Robert bin Marshy. 63 years old

683
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:19,230
August 3, he was named the Chief
Executive Officer. Let's see

684
00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:22,920
what he's done. Former Chairman
President Chief Executive

685
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:26,370
Officer of MetLife Okay, that
makes sense and insurance

686
00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:32,220
company. Before that, he was
president at Paine Webber and

687
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:37,560
waiting for the Credit Suisse. I
wasn't I wasn't a member of

688
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Goldman had disappointing.
Speaking of which, you know, I

689
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,840
don't think either of us are a
big fan of Fox News or Glenn

690
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,840
watch the Fox News. There's some
stuff I like but or Glenn Beck.

691
00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:52,470
But I do watch Glenn Beck
because of the time it comes on

692
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:55,170
as convenient. That's about the
time I come home from the

693
00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:58,830
office. And I've been I saved
this clip for for two weeks.

694
00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:02,190
Obviously I couldn't do a lot of
show Oh crap out here south of

695
00:40:02,190 --> 00:40:08,310
Ibiza but he had this guy on who
I think are choosing Democrat

696
00:40:08,670 --> 00:40:11,700
is just that weird guy that
looks like he's got a wig on and

697
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,830
yeah that's the guy on yeah I
know that I think I know what

698
00:40:16,830 --> 00:40:19,290
clip you're gonna play because I
what I thought I have the clip I

699
00:40:19,290 --> 00:40:20,070
just haven't

700
00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:25,140
I thought it was a fascinating
clip because it was the first

701
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:27,780
time actually said oh my god
this is very very interesting

702
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:30,660
and we should figure out who
this guy is yes this

703
00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:32,850
guy we want to get him on our
show but the thing is he looks

704
00:40:32,850 --> 00:40:35,910
like he's incognito here's what
I don't even believe what we're

705
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:39,420
seeing him It looks like he's
incognito he's got this cheap

706
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:41,760
wig on it looks like you've
bought it at like the party

707
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,510
store that looks like crap and
then he's got like a it looks

708
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:47,970
like he's got some made some
sort of maybe face work done

709
00:40:47,970 --> 00:40:53,310
that just kind of makes it not
look like I think they injected

710
00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:57,270
something in his eyeball because
one is not even working. And so

711
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:57,690
this

712
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,960
looks kind of creepy. But
anyway, so it's you know, Glenn

713
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,230
Beck has this blackboard, which
I kind of like as a as a prop in

714
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:08,490
the studio and, and he draws
connections. dramatising

715
00:41:08,490 --> 00:41:11,340
everything dots you know, let's
simplify it for the idiots that

716
00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:15,930
watch Fox News which let's face
it, that's me. And so he comes

717
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:20,250
up with this interesting story
connect some dots about Rahm

718
00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:25,290
Emanuel who of course is is the
White House Chief of Staff you

719
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:28,230
know, he's the he's the he's the
dawn in the middle of it all.

720
00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:32,100
And this guy named was it
Whitaker white occur

721
00:41:34,139 --> 00:41:36,539
Yeah, whatever red ink or
whatever, whatever.

722
00:41:36,539 --> 00:41:39,719
Just play the clip. Shit Of
course, I've got all this

723
00:41:39,989 --> 00:41:43,319
America's news today crap that
it starts off with Hold on a

724
00:41:43,319 --> 00:41:43,709
second.

725
00:41:44,070 --> 00:41:46,290
Here use that as the as the lead
in for the show.

726
00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:50,910
No, let's not use that as the
leaving for the show. All right.

727
00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:54,090
I hate it when people do this.
Just give me the damn clip. I'm

728
00:41:54,090 --> 00:41:56,850
playing the actual YouTube but
so listen to what

729
00:41:57,389 --> 00:42:01,499
Chicago is known for dirty.
Chicago is known for dirty

730
00:42:01,499 --> 00:42:06,899
politics. Windy City native Rahm
Emanuel no exception to the

731
00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:11,669
Chicago way. He was known as the
bag man in the Clinton White

732
00:42:11,669 --> 00:42:15,779
House. That sounds good. Now in
the Obama administration, his

733
00:42:15,779 --> 00:42:19,799
strong arm tactics are helping
make an all Obama's dreams come

734
00:42:19,799 --> 00:42:24,209
true. It is scary. But true. Pat
Condell. He is a former

735
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,059
Democratic pollster. Pat
Goodell. Is

736
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:27,660
that his name?

737
00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:29,670
Pat. I think it's Pat Condell.

738
00:42:29,909 --> 00:42:33,239
Would you would you do a little
do a Google search while I play

739
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,639
the clip? I'd like to know more
about that guest contributor.

740
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:38,940
How are you sir? Good to meet
you. It's good to meet you. It

741
00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:42,030
helped me out here because I
think there are a couple of

742
00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:44,880
disturbing connections and I'm
all about that. I think this

743
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,230
whole administration is all
about connections. It absolutely

744
00:42:49,470 --> 00:42:52,500
okay, so it's really not about
what you see. It's

745
00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:56,100
it's everybody connected to
everybody else in the money.

746
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,609
It's almost community
organising, in a large way. A

747
00:42:59,609 --> 00:43:00,959
large way. Yeah. Okay.

748
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:05,279
You're right, that rug is really
really bad. That thing is

749
00:43:05,279 --> 00:43:06,119
outrageous.

750
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:09,899
It helped me out where do we
start with with Rahm Emanuel?

751
00:43:09,899 --> 00:43:10,559
Where's what

752
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:13,259
we started with his role and as
you said, in the Clinton White

753
00:43:13,259 --> 00:43:16,919
House, leaves the Clinton White
House and he gets two jobs. He

754
00:43:16,919 --> 00:43:20,069
gets put on the board of Freddie
Mac, which is the second of the

755
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:21,389
big giant mortgage.

756
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:23,910
Okay, there's this we actually
knew that Rahm Emanuel was on

757
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:26,790
the board of Freddie Mac, but
But check out how much money he

758
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:28,740
made from being on the board and
how he did

759
00:43:28,740 --> 00:43:32,250
it. His his what is his
qualification? Did he go to

760
00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:33,150
school for dancing,

761
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:37,710
he studied belly dancing. In
college, he was trained for

762
00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:38,850
ballet. He

763
00:43:38,849 --> 00:43:40,919
is Freddie Mac doesn't do
ballet.

764
00:43:40,949 --> 00:43:45,659
Now that's now he gets. The
other job he has is that he gets

765
00:43:45,659 --> 00:43:49,979
a job with Wasserman Perella,
which is a major Wall Street

766
00:43:50,429 --> 00:43:54,059
deal company and he gets in
there Chicago office, then make

767
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,729
$16 million in less than two
years.

768
00:43:56,940 --> 00:44:01,110
In two years. Yes. Two years.
$16 million.

769
00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:05,010
It's half of the quarter million
and taxpayers gave him for

770
00:44:05,010 --> 00:44:05,490
Freddie Mac

771
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:08,579
250 for the way he was there
when he was

772
00:44:09,059 --> 00:44:11,999
cooking the books. Yeah, let's
remember this is their cooking

773
00:44:11,999 --> 00:44:12,449
the books.

774
00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:15,600
Got it. Okay. $16 million. How
do you make the 16 million

775
00:44:15,659 --> 00:44:19,619
$16 million, basically on one
large deal and there's a segment

776
00:44:19,619 --> 00:44:23,939
but the big deal he got it on
was he was advising SBC which

777
00:44:23,939 --> 00:44:26,609
later grew into the NEW AT and T

778
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:30,270
okay SBC. Right that's not
really it. Here's what's

779
00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:35,250
interesting about the SBC thing
is the guy who helped make this

780
00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:38,580
deal Yes. Took a loss to the
knot.

781
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:42,149
Yes, the they had to sell
because they bought another

782
00:44:42,149 --> 00:44:44,969
phone company Ameritech they had
to get rid of a security company

783
00:44:44,969 --> 00:44:48,239
called Security like it was a
billion billion a half dollar

784
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:53,399
investment. He sold to a group
headed by a reinvestment group

785
00:44:53,399 --> 00:44:58,199
being led by white acre by Mr.
White acre was the chairman he

786
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,559
sold it to a group led by Mr. Ma
Annual for about $500 million.

787
00:45:01,919 --> 00:45:05,819
Okay, six months later, six
months later, the investment

788
00:45:05,819 --> 00:45:08,309
bank that bought it sold it for
a billion dollars.

789
00:45:08,370 --> 00:45:10,860
All right, John, were you
following that at the time?

790
00:45:10,890 --> 00:45:11,820
Yeah, a little bit.

791
00:45:12,149 --> 00:45:14,999
But it seems just like like kind
of just a circle of corruption.

792
00:45:15,479 --> 00:45:19,859
But the guy is it here's his
background, more or less pakoda.

793
00:45:19,859 --> 00:45:24,119
He was a longtime Democrat. We
worked with McGovern and 72,

794
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:29,309
Carter, Gary Hart, Joe Biden,
and Jerry Brown. So he's like

795
00:45:29,309 --> 00:45:33,269
old connected well, and well
connected. But I think he also

796
00:45:33,269 --> 00:45:35,999
was a consultant for a bunch of
movies, including Air Force One

797
00:45:35,999 --> 00:45:40,349
running mate, outbreak, West
Wing. Now, here's what happened,

798
00:45:40,349 --> 00:45:43,649
apparently, and this is again,
just a sketchy source, but they

799
00:45:43,649 --> 00:45:44,129
noticed it

800
00:45:44,130 --> 00:45:46,620
probably affected he went over
to Fox News.

801
00:45:46,709 --> 00:45:49,769
He did well, here's why. In
1988, Fidel left the Democratic

802
00:45:49,769 --> 00:45:53,039
Party after an acrimonious
lawsuit with a democratic

803
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:58,769
consulting firm. So I said,
Screw you and went over to the

804
00:45:58,769 --> 00:46:01,589
other side, and he's been
pounding them ever since. He's

805
00:46:01,589 --> 00:46:04,049
like a, you know, a nightmarish
guy. He's one of those. It

806
00:46:04,049 --> 00:46:07,829
doesn't seem like he's a flip
flopper like Dick Morris who I

807
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:09,509
used to go for anybody. He's
like,

808
00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:13,380
you broke up with who? Who just
won't keep hounding you.

809
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,220
So he's like, got it. He's got
what they would say in the

810
00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:20,490
business a hard on for the
Democrat party. So

811
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,720
okay, so now if I understand so
that was just a deal. This I

812
00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:28,320
didn't quite get the deal. But
apparently, the company was sold

813
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,250
for half a billion and then the
guys who bought a lot of money,

814
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:38,220
flipped it for for 1,000,000,006
months later, I don't understand

815
00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:38,940
how that happened.

816
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,849
They doubled their somebody
doubled their money in some some

817
00:46:41,879 --> 00:46:42,719
soap at Google

818
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,749
this white acre guy while we
listen to the rest of this clip.

819
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:46,949
That's good. That's a good

820
00:46:46,949 --> 00:46:50,999
investment. Hey, not bad. That's
good now and he took out a huge

821
00:46:50,999 --> 00:46:53,849
amount of money now the
president at that time, white

822
00:46:53,849 --> 00:46:56,669
acre was the chairman of SBC,

823
00:46:56,700 --> 00:47:02,100
America does the name white
acre, the guy who helped Rahm

824
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:08,100
Emanuel make $16 million does
the name light acre ringabel

825
00:47:08,369 --> 00:47:12,119
packed because when they
appointed the new chairman of GM

826
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,219
who announced the day of his
appointment, I know nothing

827
00:47:14,219 --> 00:47:18,539
about the car business. His name
was what would acre oh my

828
00:47:18,539 --> 00:47:19,409
goodness,

829
00:47:19,499 --> 00:47:20,519
oh my goodness.

830
00:47:20,939 --> 00:47:24,629
So that that I was like wow,
that's a connection that no one

831
00:47:24,629 --> 00:47:27,569
reported on I do remember
reading the quote of this white

832
00:47:27,569 --> 00:47:29,579
acre saying you know, I don't
know anything about the car

833
00:47:29,579 --> 00:47:32,519
business but you know, I have
just run it like a business. But

834
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:37,169
so the insinuation here or the
assertion is that because white

835
00:47:37,169 --> 00:47:41,879
acre helped Rahm Emanuel make
$16 million dollars in some

836
00:47:41,879 --> 00:47:46,349
bogus transaction or not bogus
perhaps but in a transaction

837
00:47:46,529 --> 00:47:48,989
Rahm Emanuel then turns around
and says you know what, we're

838
00:47:48,989 --> 00:47:51,809
going to hook you up we're going
to make you the CEO of General

839
00:47:51,809 --> 00:47:53,639
Motors, which seems to

840
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,870
be the MO of this of this entire
administration is let you know I

841
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:00,510
think in the olden days, they
call it cronyism

842
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,730
so did you look up white acre
Did you find it Yeah, he's

843
00:48:05,729 --> 00:48:08,729
uh, you know, I'm looking at his
picture. He built a

844
00:48:08,729 --> 00:48:12,089
telecommunications Empire
According this and that and that

845
00:48:12,089 --> 00:48:17,879
is a SBC guy, including a $16
billion acquisition of AT and T.

846
00:48:18,509 --> 00:48:22,769
Knickers and he took their name.
So at&t can Yvonne is a CIA

847
00:48:22,769 --> 00:48:26,549
front over in San Francisco in
that weird building. That went

848
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:31,859
on to change the logos on the
$62 billion purchase of

849
00:48:31,859 --> 00:48:37,229
Ameritech. Now this guy knows
how to do deals. I'm in far as

850
00:48:37,229 --> 00:48:40,019
he's concerned, the 16 million
that went to Rahm Emanuel is

851
00:48:40,019 --> 00:48:48,269
chicken feed. Yeah, really
nickname Big Ed. For you, Sam,

852
00:48:48,269 --> 00:48:48,959
how does you

853
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:52,620
upon at&t is corporate.

854
00:48:54,090 --> 00:48:59,280
His retirement pay off from 18 t
total? 158. Point 5,000,001 of

855
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,520
the top pension packages in the
country. It's a hell of a pet

856
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,060
pension.

857
00:49:03,299 --> 00:49:08,849
Wow. And he gets 10 hours on the
Texas Yeah.

858
00:49:10,349 --> 00:49:15,989
There was a locomotive engineer,
went to Texas Tech. So if we try

859
00:49:15,989 --> 00:49:18,389
to he's one of those guys that
probably is finding help and

860
00:49:18,389 --> 00:49:21,719
find out. You know, I think T
Boone Pickens is from Texas

861
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,809
Tech, I'm sure these two guys
hanging out together because

862
00:49:24,869 --> 00:49:29,399
Texas Tech is a Pickens has
taken the idea of becoming the

863
00:49:29,429 --> 00:49:33,089
kind of the the owner of Texas
Tech, so he's like throwing

864
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,339
tonnes of money to the
basketball and football

865
00:49:35,339 --> 00:49:38,459
programmes and the rest of it to
make that school you know, beat

866
00:49:38,459 --> 00:49:40,919
Texas. Skies again to know what
to do.

867
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,890
Yeah, that's what's running our
country.

868
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,550
At least he drove his own car.

869
00:49:49,170 --> 00:49:51,600
There was a fancy

870
00:49:52,139 --> 00:49:53,909
car, he'd write that Cadillac,

871
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,429
of course, there was a fantastic
song that that showed up the

872
00:49:59,429 --> 00:50:03,149
other day. I just Gotta play
this for you. This is I don't

873
00:50:03,149 --> 00:50:08,249
even know where this came from.
I should play the jingle with it

874
00:50:10,380 --> 00:50:15,240
because it will not put seniors
in a position of being put to

875
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:16,590
death by their government.

876
00:50:17,099 --> 00:50:23,189
Here's President Obama
everybody. Oh no worries. Oh,

877
00:50:23,189 --> 00:50:23,999
people got

878
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:33,239
another lyrics Yeah, this guy's
very famous.

879
00:50:34,019 --> 00:50:40,109
Lots of drawers. No hair ever
fallen down just a couple of

880
00:50:40,109 --> 00:50:47,489
steps. Hey smackers because I
give them a painful and just say

881
00:50:47,489 --> 00:50:48,479
goodbye. We

882
00:50:48,479 --> 00:50:56,549
got like that? Yeah, this guy's
I can't remember his name, but

883
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:59,279
he does a lot of these parody
songs. And he does a really good

884
00:50:59,279 --> 00:51:03,689
abama kind of cadence, which
makes it which is hilarious. And

885
00:51:03,959 --> 00:51:08,189
Rush Limbaugh plays this
character constantly. Yeah, it's

886
00:51:08,579 --> 00:51:10,469
the first time I heard that song
was on Wrestling bus.

887
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:14,310
There's a porn movie that I I've
heard about. I'm reliably

888
00:51:14,310 --> 00:51:19,650
informed. It's Obama does Palin
Have you seen that one? And they

889
00:51:19,650 --> 00:51:23,940
really don't look like Obama and
Palin, but kinda. It's really

890
00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:28,800
disturbing. It's really, really
disturbing. Yeah, to see this?

891
00:51:28,890 --> 00:51:30,960
Well, no, you don't have to, but
it's, I

892
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,520
don't need to see it. That's for
sure. So I noticed that the

893
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,820
Republicans are still sticking
to this Palin. You know, in the

894
00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:40,800
course of that she does come up
with I know, she's got some

895
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,020
writers, but she came up with
the thing of the death panel.

896
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:49,590
How amazing is it that you know,
some woman in Alaska? I mean,

897
00:51:49,590 --> 00:51:52,980
it's got to be a total setup.
But just by with a Facebook. I

898
00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:55,650
mean, this is pretty interesting
with just by by putting

899
00:51:55,650 --> 00:51:58,980
something on your wall in
Facebook, that you can spark off

900
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:02,340
such such a huge debate, not
just in the country, but

901
00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:04,770
worldwide. I mean, that's saying
something for the way the

902
00:52:04,770 --> 00:52:07,020
mainstream media runs and how it
works.

903
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:09,809
It's ridiculous. And it's true
that Republicans are now

904
00:52:09,809 --> 00:52:13,049
regretting you know, the day
they even found her, because

905
00:52:13,049 --> 00:52:15,959
she's like a nightmare. She was
she's just keeps coming back.

906
00:52:16,019 --> 00:52:18,179
She can't even keep up. You
know, she gives up on a

907
00:52:18,209 --> 00:52:21,899
governor's job after two years,
which is I think, enough to say

908
00:52:21,899 --> 00:52:24,629
that she's done. But no, you had
somebody the other day, I was

909
00:52:24,629 --> 00:52:28,169
listening to one of these shows,
and Ann Coulter was on there

910
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:32,129
promoting her latest book, The
woman cranks out more books than

911
00:52:32,129 --> 00:52:37,799
anyone had then Isaac Asimov.
And, and he's going on about oh,

912
00:52:37,799 --> 00:52:40,649
Sarah, she's like a big fan of
hers, which, you know, makes me

913
00:52:40,649 --> 00:52:42,689
think, well, you know, if you're
going to be a fan of Sarah

914
00:52:42,689 --> 00:52:45,989
Palin, is why you get? I mean,
Palin is to me, it's just kind

915
00:52:45,989 --> 00:52:49,649
of a, I don't think she's that
bright. And why is they warming

916
00:52:49,649 --> 00:52:50,909
up to her to such an extreme?

917
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:54,269
She's just like a President
Obama. She's a news reader. You

918
00:52:54,269 --> 00:52:58,139
know, that's how she's her
career started reading sports

919
00:52:58,139 --> 00:53:00,539
and news, and she's probably
some entertainment news. And so

920
00:53:00,569 --> 00:53:03,659
they give her a script, she puts
it on her Facebook, and it's all

921
00:53:03,659 --> 00:53:06,509
set up. I think it's brilliantly
done. You know, it's like, hey,

922
00:53:06,509 --> 00:53:09,479
let's get this let's launch this
death panels thing. We've got to

923
00:53:09,479 --> 00:53:12,779
have some idiots say it. So they
get you know, Sarah Palin and do

924
00:53:12,779 --> 00:53:17,339
it and Fox News or whatever, you
know, publishes the whatever

925
00:53:17,339 --> 00:53:21,119
she's written. I mean, this is
the you could almost see so you

926
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:25,739
can almost see Rupert Murdoch
turning the dials here. Here's

927
00:53:25,739 --> 00:53:28,979
how I'll do it. Here's how I'll
make it all happen. I mean, come

928
00:53:28,979 --> 00:53:35,189
on dad's panel. You know, it's
got to be that way. In the

929
00:53:35,189 --> 00:53:39,389
Netherlands, where they had
socialised medicine for as long

930
00:53:39,389 --> 00:53:42,869
as I can remember, I think it
was one year ago or two years

931
00:53:42,869 --> 00:53:49,499
ago, they changed it from the
single payer option to, to

932
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,379
private insurance, and of
course, it's mandatory private

933
00:53:52,379 --> 00:53:55,619
insurance insurance, which makes
it even more interesting. And

934
00:53:55,619 --> 00:53:58,679
guess what was announced just at
the beginning of this week,

935
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:04,139
John? Oh, everyone. Everyone's
premiums going up by 100 euros.

936
00:54:04,859 --> 00:54:08,159
Now, there you have it. Yeah.
It's the insurance companies, it

937
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:10,139
is all about the insurance
companies.

938
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,430
Yeah, there's some scam going on
with this thing we're trying to

939
00:54:14,430 --> 00:54:18,360
do too, is just, I would like to
find the quid pro quo for the

940
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,330
insurance companies like I found
with the doctors and the the

941
00:54:21,330 --> 00:54:24,450
extra fees, they can charge now
for everything, you know, you

942
00:54:24,450 --> 00:54:27,750
get a call in for appointment,
you get to probably pay five

943
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:30,360
bucks to do that. Of course, you
don't pay it, it comes to

944
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,770
government pays it what I mean,
the quid

945
00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:34,140
pro quo that the insurance
companies bought all the

946
00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:35,460
politicians they bought,

947
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,880
what is the what is the what are
they benefiting from and how are

948
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,230
they no going to be known?

949
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:43,440
What do you mean how they're
going to benefit from it?

950
00:54:43,650 --> 00:54:45,330
Well, so I want to know, I'm
gonna have to get how can they

951
00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:47,310
make more money than they're
making now?

952
00:54:48,149 --> 00:54:49,859
Just by raising the fees?

953
00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:52,530
Well, I know but if there's
going to be the government

954
00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:54,750
coming in to compete with them,
there's got to be some other

955
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:57,240
scam going on. Okay. It can't be
that you know that it's not

956
00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:00,000
going to come in with costing
even more than it costs now that

957
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,100
You got it, you know, they'll
run these guys out of office

958
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,260
faster than you can imagine if
that happens,

959
00:55:04,619 --> 00:55:13,379
we'll see. We'll see. top
commander in Afghanistan,

960
00:55:13,379 --> 00:55:21,209
General Stanley McChrystal says,
hey, the Taliban is winning an

961
00:55:21,209 --> 00:55:23,219
interview with the Wall Street
Journal the commander offered a

962
00:55:23,219 --> 00:55:25,979
preview of the strategic
assessment he is delivering to

963
00:55:25,979 --> 00:55:28,379
Washington later this month
saying the troop shifts are

964
00:55:28,379 --> 00:55:32,489
designed to better protect
Afghani civilians from rising

965
00:55:32,489 --> 00:55:36,479
levels of Taliban violence and
intimidation he's saying send

966
00:55:36,479 --> 00:55:39,089
more troops we need more troops

967
00:55:40,469 --> 00:55:43,919
more than eight this is the next
Vietnam right in the cycle by

968
00:55:43,919 --> 00:55:48,359
the way little little overdue
but falls right into it Vietnam

969
00:55:48,359 --> 00:55:51,389
This is Vietnam all again and we
have the same situation we have

970
00:55:51,389 --> 00:55:55,259
a Democrat you know in office
who wants to try No promises

971
00:55:55,259 --> 00:55:57,419
you're gonna get out but the
only way to get out is to add

972
00:55:57,419 --> 00:56:01,229
more troops so we can get out
somehow well there is just gonna

973
00:56:01,229 --> 00:56:03,989
be the same thing we're gonna
run out of there like crazy and

974
00:56:03,989 --> 00:56:07,289
about after you know, some
Republican gets elected and

975
00:56:07,289 --> 00:56:08,699
bumps Cambodia? Well, there

976
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:12,360
is a difference is that our guys
is president of the country. You

977
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,650
know, this, this cars i Dude,
this is this is the evil part of

978
00:56:16,650 --> 00:56:19,500
it. who's living in the palace?
By the way, this guy grew up in

979
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:22,800
America, as far as I know, he
went to American schools, he was

980
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,820
George Bush's buddy. No, he went
through the entire American

981
00:56:26,850 --> 00:56:30,450
system. And oops, all of a
sudden, he's elected President

982
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,100
of Afghanistan. And now he's,
you know, I guess today the

983
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:38,130
like, yeah, the elections are
today, August 20. If they

984
00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:40,620
happen, because there was some
worry, you know, now, we've got

985
00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:43,680
Richard Holbrook out there
saying, Oh, we had the elections

986
00:56:43,830 --> 00:56:47,460
can be stalled. The guy is not
campaigning anywhere. He shows

987
00:56:47,460 --> 00:56:49,890
up for like, three minutes at a
time because of security

988
00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:53,280
concerns. He's got nine people
who are running against him who

989
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,360
are being completely suppressed
by whatever media they have

990
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,050
left. You know, we've just, we
might as well just call this the

991
00:57:01,050 --> 00:57:09,150
51st state. It's not and it's
Holbrook guy. You know, I don't

992
00:57:09,150 --> 00:57:12,510
know if you still follow the,
the International Criminal Court

993
00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:21,210
who's the guy from the guy who
they found in Serbian guy? Yeah.

994
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Who says that? The farmer with a
beard? Yeah, exactly. You know,

995
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,340
he says, Look, I got I have it
in writing, Holbrook said, Don't

996
00:57:29,340 --> 00:57:32,580
worry, we'll take care of you,
you know, you can, you can do

997
00:57:32,580 --> 00:57:36,060
all this stuff, and we'll
protect you. And he keeps suing

998
00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:38,670
over and over again in this
court while he's in jail, of

999
00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:41,730
course. And so Richard Holbrook
gave me that gave me the Go

1000
00:57:41,730 --> 00:57:44,010
ahead, which I totally believe

1001
00:57:45,539 --> 00:57:49,259
yeah, there's some sketchy even
with that first Kuwait Iraqi war

1002
00:57:49,259 --> 00:57:52,349
there's a lot of lost
information about how they would

1003
00:57:52,349 --> 00:57:56,129
kind of indicate you know, kind
of letting Saddam go attack

1004
00:57:56,129 --> 00:57:59,219
Kuwait and it would kind of
indicating he should do that and

1005
00:57:59,219 --> 00:58:02,819
as soon as he did we just bomb
the crap out of him. I mean,

1006
00:58:02,819 --> 00:58:04,979
there's a lot of this sketchy
you know, this back does the

1007
00:58:04,979 --> 00:58:09,149
problem with his modern you
know, diplomatic negotiating you

1008
00:58:09,149 --> 00:58:11,459
don't know what kind of screw
jobs he's some of these guys are

1009
00:58:11,459 --> 00:58:16,079
gonna get some good does it do
things don't quite work out, you

1010
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:18,809
know, blameless. What's it when
you do something you have, you

1011
00:58:18,809 --> 00:58:20,849
can't be held accountable
because you're you know, you've

1012
00:58:20,849 --> 00:58:26,849
divorced yourself from the
actual event in some way or that

1013
00:58:26,849 --> 00:58:28,619
you can't be blamed ever.

1014
00:58:29,219 --> 00:58:33,209
So I know that you sent me this
rather lengthy article, John

1015
00:58:33,209 --> 00:58:36,899
about pretty much I guess it's
your way of telling me hey, man,

1016
00:58:36,899 --> 00:58:39,419
here's why you should lay off
the Ayn Rand stuff because

1017
00:58:39,419 --> 00:58:43,109
people will think you're a total
nut ball. And I don't I don't

1018
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:46,889
give a crap about her
objectivism. I don't I'm not I'm

1019
00:58:46,889 --> 00:58:47,939
not a member of the

1020
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,120
air we go again another hand.
You know, we got here Wait,

1021
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:52,949
do you have not read have to

1022
00:58:52,949 --> 00:58:56,219
get an I got an Amazon account.
I'm going to put it on the blog

1023
00:58:56,219 --> 00:58:58,889
and put it onto the end. I want
to we should be making money

1024
00:58:59,009 --> 00:59:01,829
from all the promotion you're
doing of that of this book.

1025
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:09,780
Let me tell you, this book,
written in 1950s. Now, it begins

1026
00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:14,100
in 1957. I thought was earlier
that 1957 I have not read

1027
00:59:14,130 --> 00:59:18,240
anything else by Ayn Rand. I
don't care. This book describes

1028
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,110
exactly what is happening right
now. And it actually has an

1029
00:59:22,110 --> 00:59:27,030
unobtainable solution, which
essentially means blowing up the

1030
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:31,920
entire country, in a matter of
practical in a manner of speed.

1031
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,070
Well, it's happening anyway,
we're going into total demise.

1032
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,700
And it's a moral bankruptcy of
every single institution and

1033
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:43,500
everything that that this one's
made this country great. And

1034
00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:48,810
it's a book you should read it
is it will make you feel good

1035
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,260
that if there really wasn't John
Galt that there would be some

1036
00:59:52,260 --> 00:59:56,070
kind of some kind of solution
that it does have a solution but

1037
00:59:56,070 --> 00:59:59,970
has nothing to do with
objectivism and I do not read

1038
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,750
This thing like some drone and I
did not attend meetings

1039
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:05,730
I never said you

1040
01:00:05,730 --> 01:00:09,540
did you've never even read the
book I mean you how can you have

1041
01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:09,810
read

1042
01:00:09,809 --> 01:00:14,699
that read the precursors the
same story alright what's the

1043
01:00:15,299 --> 01:00:20,459
same book as Atlas Shrugged she
just was going for it she was

1044
01:00:20,459 --> 01:00:23,039
basically like warming up with
Fountainhead and then she like

1045
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:25,379
hit the home run with Atlas
Shrugged is the same book same

1046
01:00:25,379 --> 01:00:29,069
story I'm sure I could couldn't
get through 20 pages without

1047
01:00:29,069 --> 01:00:32,489
just falling died probably fall
dead asleep I pass out like you

1048
01:00:32,489 --> 01:00:33,269
do with the burger.

1049
01:00:35,219 --> 01:00:37,109
Why don't you go read it man
once it's

1050
01:00:38,190 --> 01:00:40,560
better to do but read 1200 page
books

1051
01:00:42,329 --> 01:00:50,039
I read to do never publish
where's your cycle book?

1052
01:00:50,759 --> 01:00:52,949
It's coming. I got some new
material.

1053
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,750
Read the book. Just read this do
me a favour just read the book

1054
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:59,040
it only take you two months.

1055
01:01:01,110 --> 01:01:03,660
Alright good. Listen to the book
on tape. It only take me What

1056
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:12,840
5656 hours it's the unabridged
version. Here's a little I'm

1057
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,260
sorry, say going back and forth
to the city for a year.

1058
01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:21,449
He has little did he I thought
was an this does crop up from

1059
01:01:21,449 --> 01:01:24,269
time to time. But maybe this
time was really going to happen.

1060
01:01:25,709 --> 01:01:32,519
A collective a group including
NBCUniversal Time Warner News

1061
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:38,279
Corp, Viacom, CBS discovery and
Walt Disney are joining together

1062
01:01:38,609 --> 01:01:43,079
to finally create an alternative
to the Nielsen television

1063
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:47,039
ratings. Others involved in the
new print in the new project,

1064
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:50,099
which they say is going to
launch in September will include

1065
01:01:50,609 --> 01:01:55,409
Procter and Gamble Unilever,
at&t WPP, estar con,

1066
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:57,960
calm what you're saying with
this article, they've lost

1067
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,310
confidence in Nielsen

1068
01:01:59,369 --> 01:02:03,899
no, they really want to rig it
now that's that's I mean, but of

1069
01:02:03,899 --> 01:02:06,689
course with Nielsen ratings have
been questionable ever since the

1070
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:10,559
ever since they came out you
know? Because I think it's still

1071
01:02:10,589 --> 01:02:12,749
you know, it's done on such as a
small sample although

1072
01:02:12,779 --> 01:02:16,589
statisticians will argue with me
that that it's usually pretty

1073
01:02:16,589 --> 01:02:17,249
accurate

1074
01:02:18,539 --> 01:02:19,739
I would agree with them.

1075
01:02:20,639 --> 01:02:24,329
But from time to time this crops
up and every couple of years

1076
01:02:24,359 --> 01:02:26,129
they the you know, there's a
group that gets together and

1077
01:02:26,129 --> 01:02:28,139
says we're going to put needles
not a business we're going to

1078
01:02:28,229 --> 01:02:31,439
it's like comScore that's
another thing that frightens me

1079
01:02:34,169 --> 01:02:36,959
you have to put in the cost a
lot of money to get these not

1080
01:02:36,959 --> 01:02:40,679
that we pay $100,000 a year just
to just for the privilege of

1081
01:02:40,979 --> 01:02:49,139
comScore tracking us you had a
couple of clips I think that

1082
01:02:49,139 --> 01:02:52,859
were left over to me left from
that we do them all.

1083
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:56,789
Oh, no, I got the one that I was
gonna start the show with Yeah,

1084
01:02:57,059 --> 01:02:59,879
I did they give a set up set up
on this. I was gonna start to

1085
01:02:59,879 --> 01:03:02,969
show that because I thought to
be amusing. The MSNBC starting

1086
01:03:02,969 --> 01:03:06,509
to do some of these
documentaries. And so they did

1087
01:03:06,509 --> 01:03:09,539
one on this stuff. The real
story behind the Texas Chainsaw

1088
01:03:09,539 --> 01:03:14,729
Massacre guy, and they dramatise
he really existed. Yeah, they

1089
01:03:14,729 --> 01:03:18,149
dramatise it to such an extreme
that they brought in this voice

1090
01:03:18,149 --> 01:03:20,969
and I want people just to listen
to this guy. And just let the

1091
01:03:20,969 --> 01:03:23,399
thing play through and you'll
get the end you can make your

1092
01:03:23,399 --> 01:03:27,539
comment but it's like this voice
is brought in for this it's like

1093
01:03:27,539 --> 01:03:30,359
read it's not like the frontline
guy that's actually believable.

1094
01:03:30,359 --> 01:03:34,829
This guy is so over the top
corny. That is like why is he I

1095
01:03:34,829 --> 01:03:37,559
don't know. I mean it but I find
the whole thing quite amusing.

1096
01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:41,699
But it was like overdone. It's
like comparing a Hollywood actor

1097
01:03:41,699 --> 01:03:44,339
to a stage actor, plate of
guests

1098
01:03:44,370 --> 01:03:49,590
the real truth. Far from being a
war hero, Robert Gleason was

1099
01:03:49,590 --> 01:03:54,120
actually a former mental patient
on the run from the police. A

1100
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,540
compulsive hoarder of firearms,
he'd been sectioned for shooting

1101
01:03:57,540 --> 01:04:01,590
up a hospital and jumped bail in
Buffalo, New York. After

1102
01:04:01,590 --> 01:04:02,910
shooting a man in the foot.

1103
01:04:03,329 --> 01:04:08,009
His conflict resolution method
is to be violent or to threaten

1104
01:04:08,009 --> 01:04:11,969
violence. He's in love with
guns, he's just infatuated

1105
01:04:11,969 --> 01:04:15,599
with guns. Unbeknownst to the
moment community policing his

1106
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,899
past was littered with firearms
offences and dog behaviour.

1107
01:04:19,439 --> 01:04:22,829
three wives have left him the
last one she found him taking a

1108
01:04:22,829 --> 01:04:25,109
bath with a dissembled deer.

1109
01:04:27,059 --> 01:04:29,009
That's an American doing that
voice.

1110
01:04:29,340 --> 01:04:33,060
And then they then the shooting
at the end of the sword.

1111
01:04:36,329 --> 01:04:39,299
Hey, it's time for another
instalment of shadow puppets.

1112
01:04:40,829 --> 01:04:44,129
President Obama's nominee for
Surgeon General is Dr. Regina

1113
01:04:44,129 --> 01:04:48,179
Benjamin, hailed by Mr. Obama
for her efforts and running a

1114
01:04:48,179 --> 01:04:52,559
health clinic and hurricane
ravaged rural Alabama. Guess

1115
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:55,589
whose advisory board she's on
John remember this is the

1116
01:04:55,589 --> 01:05:00,119
Surgeon General all about on
Santo. Whoo I should hit The

1117
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:04,889
jingle for that. I'm sorry,
John, you are incorrect. No, no,

1118
01:05:04,889 --> 01:05:08,879
no, no. Remember, what is the
Surgeon General responsible for

1119
01:05:08,879 --> 01:05:12,809
the Surgeon General is supposed
to remind us to eat healthy

1120
01:05:12,809 --> 01:05:17,369
exercise live healthy lives. Is
that correct? Yeah. She's on the

1121
01:05:17,369 --> 01:05:25,019
board of Burger King. That's
hilarious since you got paid

1122
01:05:25,019 --> 01:05:30,239
$10,000 a year for serving on
the Scientific Advisory Board.

1123
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:35,699
You're telling me that the
Surgeon General is on the board

1124
01:05:35,699 --> 01:05:38,549
of Burger King? Yeah.

1125
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:44,009
Oh, yeah. You gotta love it. I
actually I think Burger King is

1126
01:05:44,009 --> 01:05:45,869
probably healthier than
McDonald's though.

1127
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:51,660
Not much. I mean, they do the
grease is to handle differently.

1128
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,900
I mean, McDonald's takes their
patties and throw them on a

1129
01:05:54,930 --> 01:05:58,560
griddle that so they kind of
cook in their own fat. And

1130
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,490
Burger King throws the patties
on this conveyor belt that's got

1131
01:06:02,490 --> 01:06:06,720
a bunch of holes in it. And it
goes across supposedly full

1132
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,860
names and or some sort of oil,
it's flame broiled, and it's in

1133
01:06:10,860 --> 01:06:14,760
the flame it goes across the
flames and so the grease falls

1134
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,240
off the burger into the flames
and it would probably bubble up

1135
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:23,070
back into the meat and some some
other form. And I don't know,

1136
01:06:23,850 --> 01:06:26,310
Burger King over the years has
really deteriorated wanted

1137
01:06:26,310 --> 01:06:30,600
to track Vicky Rivas VAs
squares. A spokeswoman for the

1138
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,480
Department of Health and Human
Services said Dr. Benjamin would

1139
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,660
resign her position from Burger
King Upon confirmation by the

1140
01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:41,190
Senate. And she will also recuse
herself from any specific party

1141
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:44,640
matters involving Burger King
for the next two years as part

1142
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,070
of the Obama administration's
ethics pledge.

1143
01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:51,030
The ethics ethics. So what's
your name again?

1144
01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:55,080
Her name is Dr. Regina Benjamin.

1145
01:06:55,709 --> 01:07:00,899
Regina. Can Jim in looks like
she's had

1146
01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:02,460
a burger too. Actually.

1147
01:07:02,489 --> 01:07:07,409
That's what I'm trying to see.
She's Oh, yeah. It's pretty

1148
01:07:07,409 --> 01:07:07,859
apparent.

1149
01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:14,670
nation's leading spokesperson
and that's the opener right

1150
01:07:14,670 --> 01:07:17,520
there. As the nation's leading
spokesperson on public health,

1151
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,650
you will continue to promote
healthy eating and

1152
01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:23,669
exercise. Maybe she should start
with herself

1153
01:07:23,970 --> 01:07:26,940
as third party counsellor
bringing her expertise on public

1154
01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:30,180
health on an advisory panel she
was advocating for food options

1155
01:07:30,180 --> 01:07:33,510
that were lower in sodium and
recommending that nutritional

1156
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:36,570
information appear on food
packaging Dude we're too busy

1157
01:07:36,570 --> 01:07:40,110
reading the cartoons on the food
packaging that's what that's the

1158
01:07:40,110 --> 01:07:41,520
whole beauty of Burger King

1159
01:07:41,789 --> 01:07:46,859
you know we try to make a
there's a picture here in this

1160
01:07:46,859 --> 01:07:51,239
list that took a look at the
photo photos I'll send you this

1161
01:07:53,189 --> 01:07:59,279
it's it's if you look her up
this This photo shows up anyway

1162
01:08:00,749 --> 01:08:03,779
I think people should just start
really start to concentrate on

1163
01:08:03,779 --> 01:08:04,829
reading these labels

1164
01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:08,040
that's the picture that showed
up.

1165
01:08:08,579 --> 01:08:08,999
Yeah

1166
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:17,579
this guy needs a bra. So you
know people have to really start

1167
01:08:17,579 --> 01:08:21,029
looking at these labels and take
make you know and ask yourself

1168
01:08:21,029 --> 01:08:24,149
when it goes when you get to my
wife was moaning about this the

1169
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:27,269
other day she went to some she
saw something says back to the

1170
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:30,869
original original the original
taste you know from the 1920s or

1171
01:08:30,869 --> 01:08:32,849
something like that she reads
the label and it says high

1172
01:08:32,849 --> 01:08:36,869
fructose corn syrup. So that was
this original how's this back to

1173
01:08:36,869 --> 01:08:39,539
the basic How Is This Anything
is high fructose corn syrup is a

1174
01:08:39,539 --> 01:08:44,789
new additive way of putting that
in anybody's food in the 30s.

1175
01:08:45,210 --> 01:08:48,390
But wait, there's more. She also
reported receiving more than

1176
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:52,140
$20,000 for serving on another
advisory board at Nebraska based

1177
01:08:52,170 --> 01:08:56,220
ConAgra Foods. One of the
country's largest food producers

1178
01:08:56,220 --> 01:08:59,760
with products such as David
sunflower seeds crunch and munch

1179
01:09:00,210 --> 01:09:03,180
healthy choice and Chef Boyardee

1180
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:11,700
All right. What happened to
coop? Coop was still around he's

1181
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:15,180
doing the commercials for
infomercial clapper. I

1182
01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:19,290
know for help I fallen I can't
get up with that one called Life

1183
01:09:19,290 --> 01:09:19,680
call.

1184
01:09:19,710 --> 01:09:23,190
Yeah, the clapper. Oh, no,
that's right. There's a little

1185
01:09:23,190 --> 01:09:25,800
thing you push a button and it
sends for help. It's not the

1186
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:33,000
clapper. Sorry. It helped by
fallen I can't get up. So I want

1187
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:39,120
to mention that we got a recipe
here. We're going to we could

1188
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,790
have gotten a little more money
from that, you know, Sunday

1189
01:09:41,790 --> 01:09:44,340
shows don't seem to really
generate I don't know what it

1190
01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:48,330
is. Almost all of our income for
the show comes on and by the

1191
01:09:48,330 --> 01:09:51,390
way, if we're going to do three
shows we're actually about we

1192
01:09:51,390 --> 01:09:55,170
make we bring in about half as
much money as we actually need

1193
01:09:55,170 --> 01:09:58,800
to do this show, you know and
rationalise that to just to do

1194
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,250
one show you had to do one show
to rationalise doing the show at

1195
01:10:02,250 --> 01:10:06,060
all. Although we really enjoy
it, and we think we're doing a

1196
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:08,730
public service, but I think the
public has to also, you know,

1197
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,310
help us out a little bit because
we know how many people are

1198
01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:14,910
listening to show and there's a
lot, and there's only a few that

1199
01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:19,620
have, you know, they actually
followed up with helping us, and

1200
01:10:19,650 --> 01:10:21,690
we're gonna keep doing that
we're gonna, you know, have to

1201
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:26,040
do something eventually. Because
I mean, there's, you know,

1202
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,950
there's weekly begging for
money, it's getting pretty old.

1203
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,920
Well, it gets old. But you know,
the last time i Last Thursday,

1204
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,410
when I did it, when I was really
getting angry about it and

1205
01:10:34,410 --> 01:10:38,730
saying, you know, you'll look
at, you just spend 2550 bucks to

1206
01:10:38,730 --> 01:10:41,640
go to a movie, which is two
hours of entertainment usually

1207
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,770
doesn't you don't get as much
out of it as you do from our

1208
01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:47,130
show, you know how it's gonna
end. And you know, how it's

1209
01:10:47,130 --> 01:10:49,620
gonna end and you're not, you
know, me me, while you're

1210
01:10:49,620 --> 01:10:52,890
getting this show. Like, you
know, it's like a movie at least

1211
01:10:52,890 --> 01:10:57,630
a long movie every week for
free. And you use it when you go

1212
01:10:57,630 --> 01:11:00,750
to work with most of our
listeners, or commuters. And

1213
01:11:00,750 --> 01:11:03,210
they listen to the shows there
are some others but they tend to

1214
01:11:03,210 --> 01:11:05,790
listen to the show going to and
from work and it keeps them

1215
01:11:05,790 --> 01:11:09,990
sane. Think about what you pay a
doctor to maintain sanity or

1216
01:11:10,020 --> 01:11:10,800
psychiatrist.

1217
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,430
Plus to be on that Obama
Caravan, we should be getting

1218
01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:16,110
something we should be getting
the payoff.

1219
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:21,540
Exactly. So I would encourage
you to go to no agenda show.com

1220
01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:26,010
or divorce act.org/n. A and sign
up for one of the programmes

1221
01:11:26,010 --> 01:11:29,550
where there's a subscription
that we're going to add a $5 a

1222
01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:32,670
month subscription option
because of number of people

1223
01:11:32,700 --> 01:11:35,010
asked for that specifically. And
they said you know what you

1224
01:11:35,010 --> 01:11:38,430
don't like to $2 because it's
your pay pal takes all the money

1225
01:11:38,430 --> 01:11:40,500
with five it would be probably
acceptable. So we're going to

1226
01:11:40,500 --> 01:11:43,530
add that. And then we also have
to add we're also looking for

1227
01:11:43,530 --> 01:11:46,530
people that can do grants and
we're also going to get stepped

1228
01:11:46,530 --> 01:11:49,680
back up and start doing our
plans for the dinner.

1229
01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:52,830
Yes, because a lot of people a
lot of different cities are

1230
01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:55,470
saying they will definitely know
that but the dinner is not going

1231
01:11:55,470 --> 01:11:57,390
to be a huge moneymaker for us
it's

1232
01:11:57,390 --> 01:12:00,540
more because half of the money
is gonna go to the dinner. Yeah,

1233
01:12:00,540 --> 01:12:02,820
and the wine for sure. We're not
going to break we're not going

1234
01:12:02,820 --> 01:12:07,140
to do a cheap crummy dinner with
you know, lousy food ended

1235
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:09,210
obviously if you're a foodie,
you'd want to come to this thing

1236
01:12:09,210 --> 01:12:11,160
because we're going to do
probably I'm thinking I'm not

1237
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,800
sure what place we're gonna go
to boba place like Florida Lee

1238
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,340
and in Las Vegas, where I know
the chef and he could actually

1239
01:12:17,340 --> 01:12:20,760
make a special meal for us and
I'll bring one of some

1240
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:24,810
spectacular or double Magnum or
something from my collection.

1241
01:12:24,810 --> 01:12:25,500
Nice.

1242
01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:27,150
We should find them Jong Il.

1243
01:12:27,930 --> 01:12:35,010
That's reminds me. Big talk. So,
yeah, so we're gonna, we're

1244
01:12:35,010 --> 01:12:38,130
gonna make it have a link for
you to sign up for the waiting

1245
01:12:38,130 --> 01:12:41,070
list. Just for information you
don't have. You're not going to

1246
01:12:41,070 --> 01:12:42,330
be signing up for dinner. Here's

1247
01:12:42,330 --> 01:12:45,540
an idea. Here's an idea. Why
don't we set it for

1248
01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:47,880
Thanksgiving? 2009?

1249
01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:51,630
Because I think my family would
object. No, it's

1250
01:12:51,630 --> 01:12:55,380
October 3 is Thanksgiving, the
official all the real things

1251
01:12:55,380 --> 01:12:59,970
real Thanksgiving is October 3.
That's an idea in Las Vegas. And

1252
01:12:59,970 --> 01:13:02,880
we'll give thanks to Abraham
Lincoln.

1253
01:13:04,170 --> 01:13:06,480
You could read the tome. I could
read

1254
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,159
the practical proclamation. And
we can get a magician and a

1255
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:13,949
couple of and a couple of porn
stars who are apparently 300

1256
01:13:13,949 --> 01:13:15,389
bucks for seven hours.

1257
01:13:15,660 --> 01:13:19,470
Yeah, that's reasonable. Just
having standing there. Yeah.

1258
01:13:19,649 --> 01:13:24,689
Just hanging out. Yeah. I think
we got a plan in HEMA underwear.

1259
01:13:24,749 --> 01:13:27,029
How about porn stars and Hema
underwear.

1260
01:13:27,449 --> 01:13:31,439
So go to the no agenda show.com
or no agenda, dogs

1261
01:13:31,469 --> 01:13:38,369
squarespace.com or, or
dvorak.org/in a. And you'll get

1262
01:13:38,369 --> 01:13:40,919
you'll see all the new stuff on
there, the site will be

1263
01:13:41,069 --> 01:13:41,879
improved.

1264
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:46,020
And then to wind it up something
that of course, this is a this

1265
01:13:46,020 --> 01:13:49,320
is news that we've been talking
about for several months now, I

1266
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,500
think and now and I'm not quite
sure who this guy is other than

1267
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:57,300
an Air Force veteran who handled
nuclear nuclear warheads in

1268
01:13:57,300 --> 01:14:02,640
Europe. He is the chairman of
stupid foods and Elmhurst dairy.

1269
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,360
His name is Henry Schwartz. And
according to The New York Times,

1270
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:17,160
he is sounding the alarm. He's
says, an electromagnetic pulse

1271
01:14:17,490 --> 01:14:18,030
weapon.

1272
01:14:18,989 --> 01:14:22,379
This guy, this guy is like 90,
he doesn't know what he's

1273
01:14:22,379 --> 01:14:24,209
talking about. 75

1274
01:14:24,210 --> 01:14:29,670
is not that old. So this whole
75 is not that old. I mean, you

1275
01:14:29,670 --> 01:14:29,850
know,

1276
01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:31,380
me, go ahead.

1277
01:14:34,109 --> 01:14:37,349
So he's saying, Hey, I'm really
worried about this primarily

1278
01:14:37,349 --> 01:14:40,049
about our grid that won't be
able to handle it. It's

1279
01:14:40,049 --> 01:14:43,919
interesting. We talked to Larry,
the guy that is renting the

1280
01:14:43,919 --> 01:14:48,929
hangar to me at at Oakland and
he's an engineer for Lockheed.

1281
01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:51,660
Martin works for the Skunk
Works.

1282
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,620
And John's real and he's also up
there. He's probably in his 70s,

1283
01:14:56,490 --> 01:15:01,230
maybe late 60s, and John's real
coy is like hey, So that that

1284
01:15:01,230 --> 01:15:04,500
ages thing you think that really
works. And Larry's like, Oh,

1285
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:09,300
I've seen some pictures. And
then and I lay it on a enps. And

1286
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:12,570
he looks at me says, Oh, you've
heard of those. Oh, yeah, that's

1287
01:15:12,570 --> 01:15:15,780
for real. Yeah. empezar for
real, that could that could

1288
01:15:15,780 --> 01:15:19,380
really happen. But then when you
drill down into it, and this

1289
01:15:19,380 --> 01:15:21,720
guy's an engineer, and he
sounded pretty credible, he

1290
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,780
says, But you know, that no one
has that technology. What what

1291
01:15:24,780 --> 01:15:28,170
did he compare it to? Like
Wizard of Oz shit? Or like Star

1292
01:15:28,170 --> 01:15:28,680
Wars? You

1293
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,020
can do that thing with the a
bomb, but you know, you had to

1294
01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:33,840
get pretty close within most of
what we're hearing is

1295
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,310
exaggerated.

1296
01:15:35,339 --> 01:15:39,329
Yeah. So I wonder what's behind
it then if it's all exaggerated,

1297
01:15:39,329 --> 01:15:41,549
because then a lot of people are
jumping on board with this.

1298
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:44,370
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
That's the thing. That's the

1299
01:15:44,370 --> 01:15:46,440
thing that we're trying to get
our listeners to think in those

1300
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:49,800
terms. If like, you start
hearing about something even us

1301
01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:52,290
because we get suckered into
this stuff, too. By the way, of

1302
01:15:52,290 --> 01:15:54,660
course, not commonly, but you
know, it happens but we usually

1303
01:15:54,660 --> 01:15:58,770
correct you know, our flaws
eventually. But the thing is, is

1304
01:15:58,770 --> 01:16:02,250
you always have to ask yourself
what who might be behind this

1305
01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:06,090
and why? Why are they telling me
this? Because there's no reason

1306
01:16:06,090 --> 01:16:08,760
for anyone to tell me this
stuff. Unless there's some

1307
01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:11,520
there's some motive somewhere
from somebody trying to make

1308
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,310
money usually. or something's
going on.

1309
01:16:15,119 --> 01:16:19,199
I got a whole website John just
sent me the link. It's EMP X

1310
01:16:19,229 --> 01:16:23,939
America. Let's see about us.
There's a whole site about this

1311
01:16:23,939 --> 01:16:25,349
thing. Oh my god, this looks too

1312
01:16:25,349 --> 01:16:30,059
slick to be protecting America
against a permanent continental

1313
01:16:30,059 --> 01:16:34,199
shut down from electromagnetic
pulse. This is a slick site.

1314
01:16:34,350 --> 01:16:36,450
Yeah, this is this. This has got
to be

1315
01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:38,130
in government side of

1316
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,380
military industrial complex.
There's

1317
01:16:40,590 --> 01:16:43,650
something fishy about this to
your these guys. You remember

1318
01:16:43,650 --> 01:16:46,860
when we first started, we still
do this. By the way, when we

1319
01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:49,470
first started looking at the
phoney baloney sites coming out

1320
01:16:49,470 --> 01:16:54,480
of the Georgia Russia versus
Yeah. And you see these sites

1321
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:56,790
and it's just like, you know,
you know what a website when

1322
01:16:56,790 --> 01:17:00,540
somebody puts up an honest
website, the sincere website,

1323
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:06,030
there's a certain kind of it
Gestalt for want of a better

1324
01:17:06,030 --> 01:17:09,210
term, that indicates you that
there's probably some honesty

1325
01:17:09,210 --> 01:17:12,180
behind it. When you start seeing
these things that are way too

1326
01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:14,550
slick, unless it's like, you
know, a professional, you know,

1327
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:16,590
like a newspaper. Yeah, it
shouldn't be because it's a

1328
01:17:16,590 --> 01:17:19,440
newspaper or publication. But
when you see something that is a

1329
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:23,310
special interest group, and it's
really slick, it's very

1330
01:17:23,310 --> 01:17:25,830
suspicious, because special
interest groups don't have the

1331
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:28,830
kind of money they haven't got
$18 million to build a good

1332
01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:29,340
website.

1333
01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:36,060
So the website, the domain name,
EMP act, america.org. And dotnet

1334
01:17:36,060 --> 01:17:40,320
is owned by stupid foods and
Elmhurst dairy and affiliates.

1335
01:17:42,330 --> 01:17:47,100
Technical contact cause MCC
solutions the hell is that?

1336
01:17:47,130 --> 01:17:50,880
Let's just they must have built
the website. Yeah, they built

1337
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,820
the website so it's so he paid
him to build this website.

1338
01:17:55,440 --> 01:18:00,480
interesting to look at. Avi
Schnoor Avi Schnoor is the

1339
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:01,200
president.

1340
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,540
We're going to follow this a
little more closely because

1341
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:06,030
there's something screwy about
this thing. And I notice at the

1342
01:18:06,030 --> 01:18:09,660
bottom they get so many tracking
bugs in there. It's amazing.

1343
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:12,810
So I can't figure it I think

1344
01:18:13,770 --> 01:18:14,790
to custom site

1345
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,450
there is one there is one thing
that I do do believe is quite

1346
01:18:18,450 --> 01:18:23,700
real because history has showed
it that solar flares and I think

1347
01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:26,670
John if you look into your
cycles were due from some from

1348
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:30,420
from for some solar activity in
the coming years that can

1349
01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:33,660
actually fry out the grid that
you know these solar flares

1350
01:18:33,930 --> 01:18:36,240
we've had solar winds in the
1800s

1351
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:39,900
they can take out satellite too
occasionally they'll bopper

1352
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:41,370
satellite off the off the I

1353
01:18:41,370 --> 01:18:44,760
remember that in the in the mid
90s I remember all cell phones

1354
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,270
pagers were down for like three
four days Direct TV was off the

1355
01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:54,360
air I mean it was a pretty
massive solar activity. And they

1356
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,520
do talk about it here on this
website as well

1357
01:18:59,399 --> 01:19:00,839
Yeah, well we'll look into this

1358
01:19:01,470 --> 01:19:05,220
Yeah, but this why like that

1359
01:19:05,219 --> 01:19:08,519
org slash na we can use your
seriously Oh,

1360
01:19:08,819 --> 01:19:11,129
my God, it's gotten so dark
here. I can barely see the

1361
01:19:11,129 --> 01:19:15,929
buttons anymore on my my current
machine. The sun has gone down

1362
01:19:15,929 --> 01:19:22,739
over the yard arm everybody. And
remember, Adam and John say,

1363
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:32,429
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs. Sunday I'll be back in

1364
01:19:32,429 --> 01:19:37,499
the 17th century canal house
command centre. And so we'll be

1365
01:19:37,499 --> 01:19:41,579
able to stream live again. And
I'm going to test spend the next

1366
01:19:41,579 --> 01:19:43,619
14 hours uploading the show.

1367
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,579
Through through the URL and a K
through

1368
01:19:47,580 --> 01:19:54,720
three G no agenda show.com. No
agenda.squarespace.com coming to

1369
01:19:54,720 --> 01:20:01,500
you from Gitmo nation. South
East South A Bheatha not in the

1370
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:04,800
party capital in one of those
little Bel Air islands with very

1371
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,590
little egg electricity. I'm Adam
curry

1372
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:13,080
and recommending you bring back
some good olive oil. I'm still

1373
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,800
here in Northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C. Dvorak.

1374
01:20:16,830 --> 01:20:20,070
We'll talk again on Sunday right
here on no agenda.

