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Podcasting 2.0 for February 13th, 2026, episode

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250, Dopaminergic.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to the big show.

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It's time once again to bring you the

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board meeting of Podcasting 2.0. It's where

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all the cool kids hang out.

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It's not a lot of us, but we

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are incredibly cool.

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I'm Adam Curry right here in the heart

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of, oh, wait a minute, I forgot to

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tell you, this is a boardroom that doesn't

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stop for slop.

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I'm Adam Curry here in the heart of

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the Texas Hill Country, and in Alabama, the

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man who is using AI to fight AI.

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Say hello to my friend on the other

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end, the one, the only, Mr. Dan Jones.

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Yes, fight slop with slop.

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Fighting slop with slop, baby, it's all you

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can do.

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Yeah, it's like when they shoot slop at

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you, you hold up one of those U

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-shaped tubes, and so it goes in the

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top and then comes right back out the

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back, you know, at the bottom towards the

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end.

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It's like a periscope that shoots back at

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you, basically.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I can't get logged into the chat.

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You can't get logged into the chat?

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No, to X.

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To X?

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Twitter.

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To do the tweet.

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Does it even matter anymore?

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I think it does.

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I always post it there to make sure

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people know the, you know, where to, yeah,

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I think it's a signaling mechanism.

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I think it's presence, it's your presence.

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I actually, I got, I don't know what

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happened, but I got tired of people sending

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me Instagram links and then clicking, you know,

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I had a phone, I dropped my phone.

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Oh yeah, so wait, are you recovered from

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this?

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Yes, I'm recovered, but when you drop, when

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you, this is, I had one of those

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Galaxy Flip Z phones, and which, you know,

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it's pretty protected, but I opened, it was

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open, and I'm outside, and of course I'm

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doing two things at once, which I shouldn't

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have done, it's my own fault.

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And so I'm grilling, I flip it accidentally,

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I flip the phone out of my other

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hand, it goes up probably taller than I

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am, so let's just say almost seven feet,

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comes down, face down, on the corner, on

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the concrete, I'm like, nah, nah, nah, it's

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not gonna survive.

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It's a donor.

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It didn't.

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Which is interesting because, you know, the flip

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screen, it actually broke right on the left

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-hand side where the hinge is, because the

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screen itself doesn't break, it's just whatever's behind

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it, that just, you know, that's probably even

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worse, it just, you know, and then the

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screen's all flickering, top half works and the

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bottom half, and then nothing works.

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It still has a front screen, but you

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can't really do much with it.

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And this is before I had to go

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on the road, I was taking a trip,

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like, oh man, this sucks so bad.

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That was right as you were getting ready

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to leave.

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Yeah, so I got the old Graphene OS

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phone, which, you know, is my backup and

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it worked, but, you know, then you realize,

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oh, wow, this is so slow compared to

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the Galaxy.

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And of course, no RCS text messages.

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So all of these threads that I'm on,

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nope, not on them anymore.

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No, yeah, because Signal wigs out if you

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change phones, it does not like that at

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all.

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This is just text messaging.

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Mm, mm, mm.

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You know, because all the iPhone people, they

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already have their iMessage and they begrudgingly comply

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with RCS, but then when- Yeah, you're

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the green bubble in their chat.

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Oh yeah, I'm the green bubble, but when

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I drop off, it doesn't say, oh, Adam's

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now on SMS, you know, it doesn't do

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any of that.

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So, that was actually quite nice, because it

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was kind of quiet.

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Yeah, you got an unintentional break.

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Yeah, it was nice and quiet, so I

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kind of enjoyed that.

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I've been leaving my, I haven't really, I

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haven't been pod fasting, but I've been like,

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I don't know, reading more and just leaving

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the earbuds out.

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Okay, boomer.

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I mean, not 24 seven.

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No, boomers, no, man, boomers are, they are

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wired in, they are not.

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Boomers are just, they're like always online.

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They can't get enough Facebook.

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Yeah, they are, they are.

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Let me just finish the story.

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Yes, sir.

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So, I think I had Instagram, just, I

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don't like to use apps, you know, certainly

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not for Twitter or for Instagram.

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I don't have Facebook, that's all I really

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had.

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I'd only have Instagram, basically to see how

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my daughter's doing.

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And so, you know, I was on the

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new desktop Linux and I've got the Surface

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on Linux and so I'm kind of on

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Linux and this other phone, you know, is

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broken and I got tired doing show prep.

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People send me Instagram, you know, and then

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you got to click away the join Instagram

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so you can see what they sent you.

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And then you got to quickly hit the

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speaker icon so you can actually make, you

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know, record the clip.

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It's like, I'll just log back in.

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Well, well, well, no, that password's not right.

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And I think I saw like a password

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recovery a couple of weeks ago and just

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ignored it.

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You know, it says, if this isn't you,

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just ignore it.

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And so now it says, no, this is

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wrong.

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It's wrong, it's wrong.

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Now my account is still there.

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It's not hacked as far as I can

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tell.

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But at a certain point it says, well,

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you have to restore your password.

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You have to do this from a device

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that you had Instagram on before.

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But what they really mean is on a

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device that you had the Instagram app on

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before.

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Which you don't have.

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Which I never had.

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And so now they're saying, we're sorry, it's

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not safe to restore your account.

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Oh, so you're just toast.

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I'm locked out.

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That's great.

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That's actually good.

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And I'm like, should I do something about

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this?

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Nah, not really.

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I really don't feel like it.

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It's fine.

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It's good that way.

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Instagram, if you don't have the app, is

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12 layers of dark patterns to try to

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get you to download the app.

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By the way, yes, Dreb, you're correct.

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I know my daughter is alive because we

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share the poop app.

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I'm in her poop app league.

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So yes.

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Poop app?

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What is it?

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Oh, the poop app?

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Oh, the poop app.

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Oh, this is great.

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Oh, you need this.

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You need this in your life.

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So it's actually called Poop Map.

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And the idea is every time you poop,

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you drop your poop and then it registers

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it where you did it and you get

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badges, awards.

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Oh, well, hold on a second.

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I mean, I have a lot of incredible

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badges.

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I have, let me see, what are my

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badges?

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I've got- Is there a badge for

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like corn?

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No, no, they don't have that.

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But you do have a badge for like

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pooping on an airplane, pooping in an airport,

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pooping under sea level.

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I have all these badges.

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This is very good.

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Under sea level.

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So that means the poop has to go

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uphill.

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Well, you have to be- To get

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to where it's- No, you literally, well,

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technically, I guess, yes.

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And so my daughter has this with her

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friends.

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It may be 10 friends and they're all,

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you know, in their thirties.

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So these are adults.

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And like, yeah, yeah, dad, you gotta be

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in our league.

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And so the idea is you poop and

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then you put a funny little line, you

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know, like a classic would be, I just

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dropped the kids off at the pool.

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But of course you get very creative with

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this because that's not a good one.

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But the bottom line is if you haven't

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seen one, someone in the league poop for

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a day or two, you check in on

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them.

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You all right?

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You constipated?

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Yeah, you doing okay?

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Back off on the cheese.

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This is, I don't know what to think

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about humanity.

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I was already pretty down on it, but

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this is terrible.

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Well, and these are kids who are real,

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they're really not, they don't, they're not on

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social media.

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Oh, Christina does some social media because she

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gets paid, influencer-like stuff.

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And, you know, by the way, she's now

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18 weeks pregnant.

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So she's getting free baby stuff and whatnot.

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Yeah, that's good.

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This is a very popular app in San

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Francisco.

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I'm imagining this, the poop app.

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This is like, do you have to like

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rate it?

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I mean, do you have to put like

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a Bristol scale?

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No, you can, you can rate your poop.

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But, you know, I mean, seriously, it really

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is.

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Let me just give you a little overview.

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It's got in-app purchase?

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For what?

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Yeah, so here's from the league.

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Let's see.

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Winnie the Pooh read the news, commented, oh,

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that's on my snooze, just finished their personal

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detoxification program, finished their meditation in the Oval

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Office, just released some underwater smoke rings, you

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know, busted a grumpy.

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Now there's this one.

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I've never, I've never heard of busting a

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grumpy.

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Oh man, yeah, do they, you know, I

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like ARPP's purchase tool, the paper that's like

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in-app partnerships.

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No, I don't, I don't know about it.

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We've partnered with Cottonelle.

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They have not tried to sell me anything,

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so.

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Busted a grumpy.

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That may be a show title right there.

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I think, I think we're talking show, show

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title material.

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That's perfect.

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That's perfect.

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This is the worst thing I've ever seen.

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No, it's not.

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So, but that was easy to reinstall.

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Actually, so, you know, when you do, iPhones,

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I guess, are pretty good about restoring when

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you get a new iPhone.

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Is that the first app that you put

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back on?

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No, no, no.

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Let me tell you the process.

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Let me tell you the process.

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So iPhones that, you know, you store everything

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on the cloud and you buy a new

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iPhone, it all comes back to life.

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Poof.

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Although not entirely, because you've got to log

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into everything and, you know, all kinds of

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stuff.

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But with Samsung, they have something called Samsung

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Switch?

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Slurp?

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Slurp Switch?

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Yeah, I think it's Switch.

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And so you load that on both phones.

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Smart Switch, that's what it's called.

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And you put the phones together and it

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will, via Bluetooth, it'll replicate your phone onto

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the new phone.

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So the old phone, and this is another,

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this is kind of a cool benefit.

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It has DeX.

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Are you familiar with DeX?

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Never heard of it.

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D-E-X?

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No.

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So in these Samsungs, you can plug, you

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can plug a keyboard into it and a

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mouse and a HDMI, all on a hub.

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And you just have a full screen.

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You have your phones, you know, on a

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monitor and you can use the mouse and

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type.

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So that obviously still worked, even though the

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screen was broken.

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And so I could do the transfer, but

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oh man, so much goes wrong with that.

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I'm guessing it's just half bringing things over.

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It brings everything over, but yeah, not really.

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The apps are kind of there.

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Things kind of got restored.

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And I really don't care.

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I just want to be able to text,

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text, do signal, WhatsApp, because that's what all

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the Europeans use.

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And Obsidian, that's it.

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Obsidian is, Obsidian's my jam.

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I live in Obsidian.

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Thank you very much, Alex Gates.

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I've been hearing a lot, a lot of

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people use Obsidian.

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This is just a brain mapping thing, right?

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No.

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Or a mind map, I think.

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No, I use it as an outline and

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you can use it in many different ways

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and it's completely scriptable.

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So an example, every day it has a

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new folder for the, you know, it's like

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a year, month, day.

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And I use some, a markdown widget on

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the browser.

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So if I see an article that I

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want to save, then I just hit that

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little widget and it will save the title

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and the URL.

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And on desktop, it'll actually save a markdown

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version of the page.

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And it saves it in that, it's all

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mark, the whole thing is based on markdown

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files, which is handy.

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And, you know, even like if I get

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something from Gemini, I have a prompt that

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says, put it into an Obsidian template.

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It does tags and all the stuff I

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need to just have a database, you know,

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a knowledge base of stuff and I can

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search it and I can organize it.

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And so when it comes to show day,

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regardless of what show it is, I'll check

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on the tags as I mark all the

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different shows I do with tags.

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And then I drag it into a show

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folder with topics.

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And then I have a script, which will

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export it to OPML.

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And I can import that right into the

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Freedom Controller.

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah, it is.

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It really is nice.

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But you can then also, if you want,

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you can turn it into mind mapping and

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I don't use that.

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I just use it as an outliner knowledge

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-based storage system.

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And it syncs, syncs between all my devices.

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That is, I live in that.

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I just absolutely, right down a note, boom,

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got it.

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Cause you can find it.

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You can really find stuff.

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Yeah, I need to, I probably need to

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look at this cause this would be helpful.

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Alex Gates turned me onto it.

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Oh really?

401
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Yeah, cause I was using something else that

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came with, came with, I keep forgetting the

403
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name, not the start nine, but your...

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Umbral.

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Umbral, yeah.

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Umbral had an app, forget what it was.

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It's in the app store there.

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And I was using that.

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And then, you know, the Umbral kept blowing

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up.

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This is no good.

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It was kind of wonky.

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And then Alex Gates told me about Obsidian

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on it.

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And ever since I got Obsidian, like, oh

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man, I love this.

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This thing is awesome.

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It really is.

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My whole life, my whole life is in

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it.

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You can put code in it, code blocks.

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Code, really?

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00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,340
Yeah, code blocks.

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Yeah, it's Markdown.

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So yeah.

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Hello?

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Yeah, I guess.

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Hello?

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Yeah.

430
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In case you didn't know, I'm a software

431
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developer now.

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Just let, just want to remind you.

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We are running on Linux.

434
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Once again, I'd like to point out that

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I've done two no agendas on the, on

436
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my playout system, all on Linux.

437
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And no problems?

438
00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,220
Well, once I, you were so right about

439
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the Surface.

440
00:14:50,380 --> 00:14:51,440
Oh, it blew up.

441
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:51,880
I knew it.

442
00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,700
No, it didn't blow up, but obviously the,

443
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when I was, you know, it didn't do

444
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very well because that was the first test

445
00:14:58,940 --> 00:14:59,960
we did two weeks ago.

446
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And, you know, I literally like switched to

447
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a different workspace and it froze everything.

448
00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,160
And the whole thing was a mess.

449
00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:09,340
So I had a Dell, one of those,

450
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you know, that was on the oil rig

451
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that I was gifted.

452
00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,260
Yeah.

453
00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,520
Yeah, and you moved everything over to it?

454
00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:19,560
Yeah, the Optima, whatever it is, Optima, Optiplex,

455
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something.

456
00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:22,760
Yeah, so I just built a whole new

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machine, put everything on, runs like a train.

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This thing is, it's fantastic.

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It's just, I love it.

460
00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,840
And out of nowhere, up pops JB, Jonathan,

461
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and he says, hey, I heard you were

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looking for something to record and to clip

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with.

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Cause I was complaining about, you know, this

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really not being any, you know, audacity.

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I wound up using Tenacity.

467
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Tenacity, is that a real thing?

468
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,500
Tenacity is a fork of audacity.

469
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It's more stable, actually, it's more stable.

470
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It's okay, but it doesn't have any of

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the shuttling, you know, the H-J-K

472
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-L keys, the in and out, just for

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fast clipping.

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He says, well, I heard, he's a professional

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software developer.

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He says, you know, I was listening to

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what you were talking about.

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And he said, you know, I have a

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mission this year, and the mission is I

480
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want to buy, to build very small things

481
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that people need that have a very specific

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function.

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And he said, so I've built something for

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you.

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And he says, I'm a software developer, but

486
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I've vibe coded this.

487
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And we've got, I think we've done a

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couple iterations in the past week.

489
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This thing is outrageous.

490
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I'm going to post the link in the

491
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boardroom second.

492
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It's called Clip Doctor.

493
00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,200
Okay, so it's open source?

494
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Open source, and this is so beautiful.

495
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You know, I had to do some, I

496
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had to complete some videos for Godcaster help

497
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videos.

498
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And you just, you say, just type in

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the Gemini.

500
00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:04,359
Okay, I need a screen recorder.

501
00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:05,200
Boom, try this.

502
00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:07,000
All right, I need some editing software.

503
00:17:07,220 --> 00:17:07,980
Boom, try this.

504
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All open source, all better than all the

505
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Windows stuff I've purchased or worse have to

506
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have a subscription to.

507
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I love open source.

508
00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,640
I love it.

509
00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,020
It's so good.

510
00:17:21,099 --> 00:17:23,359
And everyone's friendly and yeah, we can fix

511
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that.

512
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,660
We can change this.

513
00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:26,079
Or you can do it yourself.

514
00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:29,420
This Clip Doctor thing is phenomenal.

515
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,900
I'm recording with it right now.

516
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,720
And you can set, it has whisper built

517
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in.

518
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You can even set like- Oh, for

519
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transcripts.

520
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You can even set trigger words while you're

521
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recording.

522
00:17:40,780 --> 00:17:42,840
So if during the recording I had, you

523
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know, it was looking for a trigger word

524
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like clip this or whatever, then it would

525
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automatically set a marker once you're done recording,

526
00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:54,460
obviously, because it has to do the transcription.

527
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Does it all in the device on your

528
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own system.

529
00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,280
It's bad ass.

530
00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:01,620
It really is.

531
00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:03,020
Okay, Clip Doctor.

532
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,480
I'm trying to, what is it?

533
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,660
It's a multi-platform, it looks like.

534
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,620
I think it will be.

535
00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:11,460
It will be.

536
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,620
It's right now, I think only Linux is

537
00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:15,080
available.

538
00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:18,560
It's GUI or is it command line?

539
00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:19,720
No, it's GUI.

540
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,620
Yeah, hold on a second.

541
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,200
I can- What's it using, I wonder?

542
00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:25,100
I don't know.

543
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:26,100
I don't know.

544
00:18:26,260 --> 00:18:29,940
I mean, I can show you a screenshot

545
00:18:29,940 --> 00:18:33,220
of, well, the recording screenshot isn't all that

546
00:18:33,220 --> 00:18:36,380
sexy because it's just, you know, it's just

547
00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:36,900
recording.

548
00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,280
It doesn't show you the timelines or anything.

549
00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:40,000
Here you go.

550
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This is the, so there it is.

551
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,340
And you can see the trigger, the trigger

552
00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:45,860
phrases.

553
00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:48,400
I can hit the mark button if I

554
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:48,880
want to.

555
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,780
Obviously, it's doing a waveform in real time.

556
00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:54,980
But all these little idiosyncrasies.

557
00:18:55,140 --> 00:18:57,620
Like if you have a full clip, you

558
00:18:57,620 --> 00:18:58,920
know, like a three-minute clip, and I

559
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,480
want to pull out one particular piece at

560
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,240
your in points, at your out point, press

561
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,060
C, clip, it puts it on the timeline

562
00:19:06,060 --> 00:19:07,020
as a separate clip.

563
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,800
It has silence removal, completely customizable, which I

564
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,700
spend a lot of time on removing silence

565
00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:18,300
from particularly news clips from France 24.

566
00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:20,860
And when they have like long shots of

567
00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:22,880
nothing, like take that out, I just want

568
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,640
to hear the audio.

569
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520
Does that automatically, has processing built in.

570
00:19:27,660 --> 00:19:31,620
It's, I mean, it's just amazing, amazing.

571
00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:36,220
And this is, and the point being that

572
00:19:36,220 --> 00:19:41,620
this vibe coding is really enabling some productivity.

573
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,820
None of this, I could not have gotten

574
00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:47,480
any of this stuff anywhere without the vibe

575
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:47,820
coding.

576
00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:50,540
Of course, all morning, Gemini was down, which

577
00:19:50,540 --> 00:19:52,020
was fun because I had some bugs I

578
00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:52,660
wanted to fix.

579
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,340
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't working.

580
00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:57,800
So I just took the code, put it

581
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,460
into Grok.

582
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,560
Hey, Grok, fix this.

583
00:20:00,620 --> 00:20:01,320
Okay, done.

584
00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:03,920
Small little things.

585
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,780
You know, there's endless AI coding discussions on,

586
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,160
you know, tech podcasts and that kind of

587
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,300
thing.

588
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:12,640
Of course.

589
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,320
I think one thing I'm concerned about is

590
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,660
like the mental health issue of AI coding.

591
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:21,960
I've been thinking about this a lot.

592
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,440
The mental health issue?

593
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:30,040
Yeah, and I've just been noticing it with

594
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:37,040
me that, let me see where to, like

595
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:37,820
how to frame this.

596
00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:41,540
So there was a time when I was

597
00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:45,240
young, young men are prone to video game

598
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,960
addiction.

599
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,160
That's just a thing.

600
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,320
We all, you know, most people understand this.

601
00:20:51,980 --> 00:20:53,300
There's a really good article.

602
00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:54,640
I'm gonna see if I can find it.

603
00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:55,460
There's a really good article.

604
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,740
I think it was like in the Miami

605
00:20:56,740 --> 00:20:59,640
Herald or something maybe 10 years ago.

606
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,360
It's in my freedom controller somewhere.

607
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,220
I need to find it.

608
00:21:03,140 --> 00:21:06,560
But there's this article from a while back

609
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,320
where this guy was kind of digging into

610
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,580
why young men become so easily addicted to

611
00:21:13,580 --> 00:21:14,300
video games.

612
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:22,060
And his basic thesis was that, well, let

613
00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:22,460
me back up.

614
00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:26,020
He said, if you look, he was pondering

615
00:21:26,020 --> 00:21:27,320
it because he said, if you look at

616
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,920
video games, especially the ones that are the

617
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,060
worst are like RPGs.

618
00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:34,600
Sure.

619
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,460
He's like, if you look at them, what

620
00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:38,880
you see as sort of like an outside

621
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,740
observer watching this 20 year old male, you

622
00:21:43,740 --> 00:21:47,560
know, just spend 10 hours a day playing

623
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,040
this RPG video game.

624
00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:51,880
What you see is it looks a lot

625
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,680
like work.

626
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,800
You know, it looks like a job.

627
00:21:56,180 --> 00:21:58,440
They're having to go over here and, you

628
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,880
know, and kill some enemies over here in

629
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,800
order to get this item to drop in

630
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,240
order to take it over to this other

631
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,800
person in the game in order to buy

632
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,840
this thing that they need to satisfy this

633
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,260
quest.

634
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,900
And it's like, it's just a whole lot

635
00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,220
of shuffling things from point A to point

636
00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:14,640
B.

637
00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:18,000
And from the outside, it just looks like

638
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,520
work.

639
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:23,040
And so your thought immediately is, well, why

640
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,500
is that fun?

641
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,420
You know what I mean?

642
00:22:26,540 --> 00:22:28,380
Aren't you supposed to like leave work?

643
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520
Isn't that supposed to be the entertainment away

644
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,160
from work?

645
00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:39,340
And, you know, his thesis then was, well,

646
00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:42,680
it is work, but it's a way in

647
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,380
which, you know, men are wired for, they're

648
00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:49,920
wired for work, but this is a short

649
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,120
circuiting of the normal process of work.

650
00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,540
It's a way to go, it's a way

651
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:58,960
to feel like you're doing work, but getting

652
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:05,600
in very short, very quick reward cycles out

653
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,400
of it, because you don't have to work

654
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,560
for, you don't have to delay gratification and

655
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,820
work and invest a lot of effort into

656
00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:18,080
this long-term goal or a longer-term

657
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,700
project where you end up with these, you

658
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,340
know, this thing tells you to do a

659
00:23:24,340 --> 00:23:27,620
thing and five minutes or five seconds later,

660
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:28,280
you've done it.

661
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,440
And you get this dopamine hit that short

662
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,640
circuits the normal process of a reward for

663
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,220
a hard day's work.

664
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,660
And I feel like there's that going, there's

665
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:46,500
that element in vibe coding.

666
00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:49,000
Well, that's interesting.

667
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,400
Allow me to project that onto myself.

668
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,980
So this is all I've done is all

669
00:23:58,980 --> 00:23:59,500
for work.

670
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,000
It's my job, I'm a podcaster.

671
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,200
I have gotten incredible satisfaction, not only out

672
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,140
of building this, and I'm very able now

673
00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:12,800
to set it aside and go like, okay,

674
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,980
I'll finish this tomorrow or whenever I have

675
00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:18,240
time, because you just open up the session

676
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,540
and boom, you're right back.

677
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,280
And I have time to think about it,

678
00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:23,460
like, how do I want that?

679
00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:28,500
But the actual, I've really gotten satisfaction from

680
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:32,320
my work itself by using the tools that

681
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,740
I've created or co-created.

682
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,860
So if you're doing something for your work,

683
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,960
I find it very gratifying.

684
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,460
I have a hundred more ideas of things

685
00:24:46,460 --> 00:24:48,280
that I can do for work in this

686
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,320
case, for Godcaster, I have a whole idea

687
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,580
for how churches can program their 24 seven

688
00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:57,140
streaming systems.

689
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,880
I built it in the old school way

690
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,680
with grids and formats, like, am I crazy?

691
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,180
I'm going to, this is going to be

692
00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:07,980
supercharged.

693
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,040
I know exactly what I want it to

694
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,200
do.

695
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,960
And I'm now, I'm just spending a couple

696
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,040
of, maybe a week or two formulating in

697
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,300
my mind and writing stuff down how I

698
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:17,040
want it to work.

699
00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:22,540
The satisfaction is enormous, but it's actually for

700
00:25:22,540 --> 00:25:23,040
work.

701
00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:24,480
I'm not a video gamer.

702
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:29,740
So do you find that when, for instance,

703
00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:31,780
you put together this, which I like a

704
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:35,800
lot, the new feeds report on the podcast

705
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,580
index, public.podcastindex.org slash reports.html. There's

706
00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:44,280
actually a different, it's under a different URL.

707
00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:45,580
Now let me paste that in the board.

708
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Oh, okay.

709
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,640
Yeah, so this, yeah, this is a placeholder.

710
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,200
We can talk about that in a minute.

711
00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:53,660
Right, but that you vibe coded some of

712
00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:54,360
this, at least.

713
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,520
Oh, I mean, it was one prompt.

714
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,500
I mean, it was, it took, I mean,

715
00:25:59,540 --> 00:26:01,280
it took me 10 seconds.

716
00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:04,900
Yes, it was, it was absolutely zero work

717
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:05,300
at all.

718
00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:09,380
And I think it's not, you know, listening

719
00:26:09,380 --> 00:26:11,320
to what you were saying about, about the

720
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,980
production that you've enabled with the, with your

721
00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:18,300
vibe coding, I think it's not an either

722
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,940
or, I think it's a both.

723
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:28,800
I think what's happening is incredible gains in

724
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:35,060
productivity and just honestly, creation from, is happening.

725
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,880
Yes, creation, yes.

726
00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:39,460
It's an explosion of creation is happening.

727
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,500
And that stands on its own as a

728
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:47,800
benefit.

729
00:26:48,740 --> 00:26:51,940
And then, but I think it carries along

730
00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:55,340
with it, this other thing that's sort of

731
00:26:55,340 --> 00:26:57,080
like a payload.

732
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,920
So I was reading, last night I was

733
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,860
reading Wendell Berry, his book, Life is a

734
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:10,380
Miracle, an essay on modern superstition.

735
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:15,320
It's an incredibly good book.

736
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,460
It's not very long, but it does require

737
00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:21,920
you to, it's hard to read it quickly

738
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,260
because you find that you, that every paragraph

739
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:29,340
sometimes, literally every paragraph makes you have to

740
00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:30,280
stop and think.

741
00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:35,620
It's just kind of really pushing a lot

742
00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:39,480
of ideas into a small amount of words.

743
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:41,660
And so I can't get through it very

744
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:42,080
fast.

745
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,620
So I was read for an hour or

746
00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:49,200
so last night and he makes this one

747
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,740
comment.

748
00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:59,660
He says, mechanical efficiency always externalizes its inefficiencies.

749
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320
So you could think of, for instance, I

750
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,100
mean, just think about a tailpipe coming out

751
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:08,640
of a car.

752
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Mechanical efficiency is always gonna, it's gonna externalize

753
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,300
the inefficient parts of itself.

754
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,420
So there's a bunch of crap and heat

755
00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:20,660
coming out of that tailpipe.

756
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,860
That's the stuff it couldn't handle.

757
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,180
That's the output that is not processing.

758
00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:32,180
But it needed to generate in order to

759
00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:33,180
do its job.

760
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,380
And so I think that the payload that

761
00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:43,640
comes along with AI coding is the AI's

762
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,560
inefficiency is us.

763
00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:48,640
We are the tailpipe.

764
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,140
Yeah, okay, keep going.

765
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,260
I think I'm gonna disagree, but keep going.

766
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:57,280
And so like some, you know, you can

767
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,940
imagine every, he makes another point later on.

768
00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:04,740
He says, he's talking about discovery and he

769
00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:05,440
makes this point.

770
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,960
He's trying to make this point of some

771
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,100
things are better left undiscovered.

772
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,620
He says every discovery, and he's kind of

773
00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:18,360
comparing, you know, different things.

774
00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:21,220
Every discovery has like two sides of his

775
00:29:21,220 --> 00:29:21,600
story.

776
00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:27,760
You know, you have the Spanish explorers, their

777
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,320
side of the story on one end, and

778
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,800
then, you know, the New World native inhabitants

779
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,320
on their end, and they tell a very

780
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,160
different story about this same thing.

781
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,220
And so I don't think it's, like I

782
00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:44,480
said, I don't think that there is one

783
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,600
story to tell here.

784
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280
I think it's both.

785
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:51,420
And I think we're gonna have to learn

786
00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:58,120
how to deal with the output of this

787
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520
thing if that output ends up being something

788
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,880
internal to us.

789
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,060
Because what I have felt, you know, I've

790
00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:08,240
been vibe coding and stuff occasionally and using

791
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,860
code agents for a few weeks now.

792
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,160
And what I find in myself is that

793
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,660
it, I get this sort of like dopaminergic.

794
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,400
What's that word?

795
00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:28,260
Like a dopamine, dopaminergic.

796
00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:30,100
Yeah, yeah, but what is the word you

797
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:30,300
use?

798
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,920
Dopa what?

799
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:32,500
Dopaminergic.

800
00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:34,520
Dopaminergic, I like that.

801
00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:41,700
I get this sort of almost mental mania

802
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:46,600
at times because what, like one of the

803
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,260
things I was doing, I have very specific

804
00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:52,420
use cases for when I use coding agents.

805
00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:55,880
I'm trying to, it's hard to even outline

806
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,380
what they are, but I immediately, there's certain

807
00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:00,420
things I just do not use them for

808
00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:01,240
at all, ever.

809
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,380
Other things I use it 100% and

810
00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:06,320
never even look at the code.

811
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:08,340
Like with that HTML report thing, it's like,

812
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,980
I don't care, throw away, whatever.

813
00:31:10,940 --> 00:31:13,660
And so I've got this range of uses.

814
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,640
And one of the things I was doing

815
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,760
the other day was I had a web

816
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,260
app that is slow only because it deals

817
00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:27,900
with a whole lot of data on the

818
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:28,880
page at one time.

819
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,600
And when you get a humongous HTML table,

820
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,460
it just, the browser really struggles with that.

821
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,580
The DOM starts to chug and it's just

822
00:31:37,580 --> 00:31:38,800
not a very good use case.

823
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,300
And I was like, okay, well, I'm just

824
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,120
going to, I'm going to turn this into

825
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,980
a QT native app and it'll be able

826
00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:46,800
to load faster.

827
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,160
It'll be in C++.

828
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:50,900
It'll just, it'll be, this'll be great.

829
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,420
And it's a use case I could, I

830
00:31:55,420 --> 00:31:56,680
barely even care about.

831
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,040
So I don't care what the code even

832
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,980
looks like, as long as it works.

833
00:31:59,780 --> 00:32:02,900
And I'm going through and I'm just chugging

834
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:06,040
along and it's building everything perfectly.

835
00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:10,220
I mean, it's just like, it's wonderful what

836
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:11,020
it's putting out.

837
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,060
But then I'm like, add another feature, add

838
00:32:14,060 --> 00:32:15,540
another feature, add another feature.

839
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,900
And I keep going and going and going

840
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:17,620
and going and going.

841
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,100
And I looked at- Welcome to my

842
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:20,920
world, Dave.

843
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,520
This is the, this is what I mean.

844
00:32:23,620 --> 00:32:27,180
This is the dopamine that is taking over.

845
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:31,440
It doesn't mean that any of it was

846
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,000
somehow negative for what it did or created,

847
00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:42,760
but it gives me a very uncomfortable feeling

848
00:32:43,460 --> 00:32:46,380
of I'm just going to kill one more

849
00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:48,160
enemy in this video game before I go

850
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,500
to bed.

851
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,500
Okay, just one more.

852
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,580
Okay, just one more.

853
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,240
I feel like there is a, for a

854
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,300
certain type of technologically oriented, technical oriented person,

855
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,960
it, and I may be prone to this.

856
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,200
It is, it gives me an uncomfortable feeling.

857
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,540
Well, hold on a second, because we talked

858
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,520
about this when I first started my vibe

859
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,500
coding journey.

860
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,920
It's a journey.

861
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:17,800
Tell me your vibe coding story.

862
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,100
Here's my vibe coding testimony.

863
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,160
We talked about this.

864
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,260
And I think within, with developers in general,

865
00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:30,480
it's like, just, I'm just going to build

866
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,780
it one more time before I go to

867
00:33:31,780 --> 00:33:31,940
bed.

868
00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:33,440
Let me just check it one more time.

869
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,120
So it's not like, so it may enhance

870
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,860
that, but that has always been there.

871
00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:44,180
You feel like, I think with the, I

872
00:33:44,180 --> 00:33:46,840
think that what vibe coding, what AI coding

873
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,200
agents bring to the table is a feeling

874
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,260
that you are being incredibly productive.

875
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,140
And so, because in a lot of times

876
00:33:57,140 --> 00:34:01,380
you are, you're being so productive that it

877
00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:05,560
makes you think you're, I can almost, I'm

878
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,180
almost finished.

879
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,800
I can, I'm almost finished.

880
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,880
I'm getting, it's like, it's like when you

881
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,679
have more, you want more.

882
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:19,260
And you, it's pushing you, sometimes unwillingly to

883
00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:21,620
continue when you should stop.

884
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,139
And I think, like I said, none of

885
00:34:26,139 --> 00:34:29,080
this means that it's bad or any of

886
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:29,260
that.

887
00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:31,060
It's really, there's no judgment here.

888
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,260
I just, I think that I've become aware

889
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:40,840
of it, especially in the last maybe week

890
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,600
or so, because I've been doing, I've been

891
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,120
doing less of it.

892
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,659
I've actually been writing a lot of code

893
00:34:49,659 --> 00:34:51,199
by hand through the last week.

894
00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:55,460
And I feel myself like relaxing and coming

895
00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:57,300
back out of that mental mania.

896
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,840
And I've actually felt reluctant to pull up

897
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,660
the CLAWD command line.

898
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:08,800
And I did today just to knock out

899
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,700
that report thing.

900
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,840
And it was like, okay, it just feels

901
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,380
good to be back.

902
00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:15,060
To be back in, just in the IDE,

903
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,160
looking at your code and you feel like

904
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,000
your mind has a chance to like think

905
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,780
through a topic.

906
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,300
And so I think, I think this is

907
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:27,720
all just so new that we don't understand

908
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,620
yet how to make it all work mentally

909
00:35:30,620 --> 00:35:31,300
with ourselves.

910
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,680
I can completely agree with that.

911
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:41,240
Here's, so what I've found very satisfying, because

912
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:43,040
I've had a whole experience here.

913
00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:46,540
I switched to Omarchi with a tiling window

914
00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:50,200
manager, use of workspaces, this is what I

915
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,440
do.

916
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,460
I sit behind my computer and I've email

917
00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:55,960
and I've got all these different sources and

918
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,320
I'm categorizing stuff.

919
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,980
And so I'm on one hand optimizing processes

920
00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:02,840
that I already had.

921
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,920
I wouldn't, I mean, I wouldn't know how

922
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120
to write an Obsidian script that could output

923
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,200
to OPML in the proper OPML, because of

924
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,360
course there's OPML and OPML, that the freedom

925
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,380
controller can ingest.

926
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,000
And then, well, I want to set my

927
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,480
monitor color, just the warmth of it, just

928
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:22,880
so.

929
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,920
And so I've got my, and I don't

930
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,960
have any agents or anything, I literally just

931
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,460
have Gemini browser.

932
00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:33,780
And another thing, I just do a super

933
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:36,200
key tab, Gemini, and it pops up, it's

934
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:36,940
a web app.

935
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:41,480
And I can customize my entire workflow, my

936
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:41,920
life.

937
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,920
And, but I'm not obsessed with it.

938
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,320
It's just, and maybe that's because I had

939
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,220
so many bad experiences with vibe coding for

940
00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:54,320
the first six months, where just getting something

941
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,140
to work.

942
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,080
And then, you know, these stupid models taking

943
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,740
me all the way down the rabbit hole

944
00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:03,740
to you have to recompile your kernel.

945
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:05,180
So that's kind of gone.

946
00:37:05,180 --> 00:37:07,200
It doesn't do that anymore.

947
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,760
So I can see the improvement.

948
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,080
And now just as a non-coding person

949
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,160
who understands systems, because I do understand systems,

950
00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:21,280
particularly Unix systems, it's a joy.

951
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,960
Just the other day, I was like, you

952
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,060
know, I've always, for no agenda, I have

953
00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:31,620
to have a non-recoup partner expenses report.

954
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,040
And the way that works with an LLC

955
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,680
is, you know, there's a lot of stuff

956
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,300
you can deduct by saying, well, this was

957
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:40,380
a business expense.

958
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:41,540
I paid for it myself.

959
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,700
And then you send that to the accountant

960
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:47,440
and then the accountant will deduct that from

961
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,660
the money that you've been paid.

962
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,380
So that becomes your new taxable base.

963
00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:55,320
You still paid for it, but you don't

964
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,720
have to pay taxes over it.

965
00:37:56,740 --> 00:37:57,860
That's basically how it works.

966
00:37:57,940 --> 00:38:00,220
And that's why LLCs are very popular.

967
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:01,500
I don't have to tell you that.

968
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:02,640
You know what I'm talking about.

969
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,240
So I was thinking, instead of what I

970
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,440
always do is, oh, here comes QuickBooks.

971
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,300
And, you know, I have to connect all

972
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:16,280
of my credit card, my bank account, PayPal.

973
00:38:16,580 --> 00:38:18,280
I got to connect it all to QuickBooks.

974
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:21,900
And then QuickBooks is maintaining, you know, what

975
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,700
I have marked as a certain type of

976
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:24,220
expense.

977
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,340
So what if I just, now, please leave

978
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:31,740
the dumbness out of this of putting my

979
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:33,580
personal data into an LLM.

980
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:34,760
Leave that out of it for a second.

981
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,040
I mentally chosen to ignore this.

982
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,060
Okay, please ignore that.

983
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:40,600
What if I just said, hey, these are

984
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,460
the categories.

985
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:45,040
Here's last year's stuff.

986
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,260
Create a new report for me.

987
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,460
But I think with 90% certainty, it

988
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:52,440
will generate something that I can use and

989
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,600
it will save me a week.

990
00:38:55,140 --> 00:38:55,300
Yeah.

991
00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:59,200
This is, and so now I'm just in

992
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,340
this creative mode of like, wow, how can

993
00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:02,320
I optimize the rest?

994
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,360
If I can win four days of my

995
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,680
life for 20 bucks a month, yahoo, but

996
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,220
that's not an obsession or like gaming to

997
00:39:13,220 --> 00:39:13,540
me.

998
00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:18,800
So I can't approach it from, I can't

999
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,660
approach, because I've always considered writing code to

1000
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:22,320
be an art.

1001
00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:24,420
It's not science, it's an art.

1002
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:27,120
It's like poetry, it's like music.

1003
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:30,660
You can approach things from a thousand different

1004
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:34,140
directions and I think you kind of build

1005
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:36,520
it the way I've seen it is it

1006
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,160
creates along the way.

1007
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,500
Musicians are always great software engineers I found,

1008
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640
particularly drummers and bass players for some reason.

1009
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,460
And that you get into that mode and

1010
00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:51,900
the further you go, it just starts to

1011
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:53,820
get better and better and then you put

1012
00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:56,080
in your quality of life enhancements.

1013
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:58,880
This is a very creative process and I've

1014
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,000
now been let into that with the creative

1015
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:08,480
part, but not really because the AI is

1016
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,380
still taking an approach that I really don't

1017
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:12,260
even know what it's doing.

1018
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,400
I just see the output of it.

1019
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,880
So there are a lot of things I

1020
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,360
may not do or find or may miss

1021
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,020
because I'm not actually in the code, but

1022
00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:24,100
it is mind-blowingly creative and fun to

1023
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:24,340
me.

1024
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:28,420
But not like I'm not video games, I'm

1025
00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:31,620
not a doom scroller, I don't have that

1026
00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:32,660
kind of nature.

1027
00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:39,520
So I'm doing almost a 180 on this

1028
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,520
stuff, but not from the, well, this, whoever's

1029
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,900
going to win the AI race, good luck.

1030
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,840
I'm going to stand outside these data centers

1031
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,340
in a year and just pick me up

1032
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:54,600
some Nvidia cards because they'll have to get

1033
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,260
rid of them and they'll just run the

1034
00:40:56,260 --> 00:40:56,840
stuff at home.

1035
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,620
Okay, my models will be a year behind

1036
00:40:58,620 --> 00:40:59,980
a year from now if I can get

1037
00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:02,460
what I have now at home, hallelujah.

1038
00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:07,640
Well, AI coding to me is fundamentally different

1039
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,760
than the entire rest of AI anything because

1040
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,660
it's verifiable.

1041
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,020
It's not, the general knowledge problem is, that's

1042
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:20,980
a joke.

1043
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,120
I still think AI is completely just overblown

1044
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,100
in that whole sphere.

1045
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,680
But the fact, if you can break down

1046
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,280
things into small enough pieces.

1047
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:34,660
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1048
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,520
What just happened here?

1049
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,100
Well, you're going nuts over there.

1050
00:41:38,140 --> 00:41:38,660
What happened?

1051
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,000
I don't know what happened.

1052
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Is this your vibe coding, vibe coded?

1053
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,120
I don't know where that came from.

1054
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:44,500
Clip.

1055
00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:46,920
I have no idea.

1056
00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:47,800
What is that?

1057
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,260
I don't know where that came from.

1058
00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:52,620
It did not, it's doing stuff by itself.

1059
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,400
I hit something, but I don't know what

1060
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,820
I hit.

1061
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:59,400
You got to turn off Claude bot during

1062
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:59,720
the show.

1063
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,140
I am not running Claude bot, but I

1064
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:06,340
totally intend on running it, totally.

1065
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,340
But I think it's just a different sort

1066
00:42:10,340 --> 00:42:10,560
of thing.

1067
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:14,000
I mean, like I said, I don't think

1068
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,560
at this point in the game, we have

1069
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,280
any answers.

1070
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,860
That's the thing is, I don't think.

1071
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,320
Well, how about this?

1072
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:23,940
I think it's too early.

1073
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,640
It would be like asking in 2005, what

1074
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,220
is social media going to do to society?

1075
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,520
It's an unanswerable question.

1076
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,660
You just don't know.

1077
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:40,140
Just so you know, DARPA was already analyzing

1078
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,400
what social media would do in the seventies.

1079
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:46,300
They were already running models.

1080
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,620
Not exactly the way we see it today,

1081
00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:50,820
but there's a ton of research they did.

1082
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:52,820
And I think they really like what they

1083
00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:55,180
see today because man, you can program people's

1084
00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:56,020
brains with that stuff.

1085
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,640
It's amazing.

1086
00:42:57,220 --> 00:42:57,560
It's amazing.

1087
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,020
So easily, yeah, straight into the cerebellum or

1088
00:43:01,020 --> 00:43:01,280
whatever.

1089
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,420
Yes, it's amazing.

1090
00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:06,760
All of these models, from what I understand,

1091
00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:10,400
they focus heavily, heavily on coding.

1092
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,460
And they've done that for a couple of

1093
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:13,720
reasons.

1094
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:16,580
One, I think syntax.

1095
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,960
Code, it's either right or it doesn't run.

1096
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,460
It can run and do stuff you don't

1097
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:25,340
want it to, but syntax is incredibly critical

1098
00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:26,040
with code.

1099
00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:27,380
One curly brace.

1100
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,960
So that helps them create machine learning or

1101
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,380
I'll just call it machinery that does good

1102
00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:37,600
syntax no matter what it's doing.

1103
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,440
They also wanted to be able to, I

1104
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,820
guess, have these things build.

1105
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:44,560
And I think arguably, I think it's probably

1106
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,320
true that internally at Anthropic, you know, Claude,

1107
00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:50,340
it's building its own stuff.

1108
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,380
I'm sure it is.

1109
00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:52,080
Sure.

1110
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,140
I don't know how that will translate to

1111
00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:00,900
all these other so-called white collar jobs

1112
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:01,980
it's going to wipe out.

1113
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:07,440
And again, yeah, you can code something, but

1114
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,180
you have to know some basics.

1115
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:10,860
It has to be in something that you

1116
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:13,680
really understand and are interested in.

1117
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,360
You can't just, you know, grab your Mac

1118
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,600
and say, okay, I'm going to build this.

1119
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:19,240
I just don't think it's going to work

1120
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,940
that well, except for maybe something that runs

1121
00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:24,280
on your machine only and you might get

1122
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,680
something out of it.

1123
00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:30,260
I mean, you're not a developer, but the

1124
00:44:30,260 --> 00:44:32,200
reason you've had so much success with it

1125
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,800
is because you have been around computers at

1126
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,520
a deep level for 40 years.

1127
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:39,300
Yeah, a long time.

1128
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,720
And so you just understand, I mean, you

1129
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,380
were running SunSpark stations back, you know, in

1130
00:44:45,380 --> 00:44:45,680
the 80s.

1131
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,980
Yeah, baby, Spark 3, a headless Spark 3,

1132
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,360
actually.

1133
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,060
This is knowledge that the average person just

1134
00:44:52,060 --> 00:44:52,940
does not have.

1135
00:44:53,980 --> 00:44:57,520
And you have to know something in order

1136
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,740
to know what to even say, because the

1137
00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:06,820
outcomes between saying, you know, build me something

1138
00:45:06,820 --> 00:45:11,520
that does so-and-so versus write a

1139
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,780
class that accepts these parameters and takes in,

1140
00:45:15,860 --> 00:45:20,160
you know, and allows, that is a completely

1141
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,100
different outcome.

1142
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,780
So if you have some knowledge about the

1143
00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:27,720
way to structure things, you're just going to

1144
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:28,960
be way more successful.

1145
00:45:29,780 --> 00:45:33,940
And like, I think that that's what we're,

1146
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,580
I think that's really where this thing is

1147
00:45:36,580 --> 00:45:40,000
going is that it's going to, and this

1148
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,380
is what Jason told me when he first,

1149
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:43,860
Jason Hudgens, when he first said, hey, give

1150
00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:45,120
me 30 minutes of your time on a

1151
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,800
Zoom session and I'll show you how to

1152
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,540
do all this stuff.

1153
00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:52,540
And he, you know, his words to me

1154
00:45:52,540 --> 00:45:56,240
was, you know, if you don't know what

1155
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,320
you're doing, it's, you're going to get mad

1156
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,480
results, but if you are an experienced developer,

1157
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,100
it'll turn you into a superhero.

1158
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,400
And that's the thing.

1159
00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:11,920
And it's also, I think it's probably revealing

1160
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,080
that most of the code that we use

1161
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,120
on a daily basis doesn't, the code structure

1162
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,640
itself doesn't really matter.

1163
00:46:21,130 --> 00:46:25,680
We get pedantic as developers and as systems

1164
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,040
people that we really want this structure of

1165
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,940
things to be the right way.

1166
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,980
And we want a perfect design.

1167
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:38,120
And there are times when that is very

1168
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,640
important.

1169
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,320
But if you go behind the curtain and

1170
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,720
look at what's actually running on any of

1171
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,420
the platforms that you're using, there's going to

1172
00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:48,920
be a certain percentage of those that are

1173
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,680
just a complete and utter mess.

1174
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,480
Yeah, of course.

1175
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,080
And, but they still actually produce the outcome

1176
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,440
that you want, they produce the output you

1177
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:58,740
need.

1178
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,780
And so it really, it doesn't really matter

1179
00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:03,900
a lot of the time.

1180
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,320
And like, so I mean, it's a good

1181
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,600
time to talk about this feed report if

1182
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,320
you're good with it.

1183
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,160
Yes, you have a bug in it, by

1184
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:11,700
the way.

1185
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,320
Oh yeah, I'm sure.

1186
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:18,080
The estimate, estimated legitimate is not giving me

1187
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,340
a percentage, it's giving me a, looks like

1188
00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:22,020
you screwed up a curly brace somewhere.

1189
00:47:23,260 --> 00:47:24,780
Wouldn't me, don't blame me.

1190
00:47:25,980 --> 00:47:27,960
I just wrote English, it wrote the code.

1191
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,140
So, okay, so this is interesting, this report.

1192
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:33,960
So I see total new feeds and this

1193
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,840
is the last 24 hours, 2,592, 2139

1194
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,740
estimated legitimate, suspected spam of gambling, 13.4%,

1195
00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:47,720
possibly AI generated, 3.5%, seems low.

1196
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:53,200
SEO affiliate spam, 1.8%. And you have

1197
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,080
a nice report where it's all coming from.

1198
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,720
How are you determining the spam gambling, AI

1199
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,640
generated, SEO affiliate stuff?

1200
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,800
Is that based upon some of the feedback

1201
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,260
we've already created with the podcast index monitor?

1202
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:12,580
So not yet, this is completely just a

1203
00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:13,340
placeholder.

1204
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,800
I mean, now it's using real data and

1205
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,840
it's doing some stuff.

1206
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,840
But it's really, this is a placeholder for,

1207
00:48:22,340 --> 00:48:24,680
I'm trying to build out the pipeline here.

1208
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,700
This feeds into this, which feeds into this,

1209
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,500
which does this.

1210
00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:33,080
And so, this was literally like a one

1211
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,000
sentence prompt.

1212
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,620
I just said.

1213
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:36,500
Wow.

1214
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,240
I said, consume the, I wish I had

1215
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:43,680
even saved the prompt, but.

1216
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,680
I'm sure it's in your session somewhere.

1217
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,660
Don't you have a session?

1218
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:48,240
Oh, do I?

1219
00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:50,780
Maybe, I think I see.

1220
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:54,920
Session.md. C Claude.

1221
00:48:56,980 --> 00:48:57,840
How do I look?

1222
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,440
Oh, Google.

1223
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:00,200
I think I'm logging in with Google here.

1224
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:01,740
Maybe I can go find it.

1225
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:06,360
So, what I told it essentially, if I

1226
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:13,580
can't find this, was download the file at

1227
00:49:13,580 --> 00:49:19,200
this URL, which is public.podcastindex.org slash

1228
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:26,520
newlyaddedfeeds24hours.csv. So that CSV file gets generated

1229
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,980
once a day.

1230
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,260
And it's simply just the last 24 hours

1231
00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:36,740
worth of newly added feeds that have come

1232
00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:39,740
into the index from any place.

1233
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:45,140
And so, the layout of that file is,

1234
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,160
it just tries to give all the fields.

1235
00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:54,080
The purpose of this is I want other

1236
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,460
people to be able to do whatever they

1237
00:49:55,460 --> 00:49:56,000
want with it.

1238
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,300
I want people to be able to slice

1239
00:49:58,300 --> 00:50:00,120
and dice this data however they want.

1240
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,480
Sure, sure.

1241
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:05,560
And so, it has a bunch of just

1242
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,560
standard fields like the podcast index ID, the

1243
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,520
feed URL, the title, the author, the description,

1244
00:50:12,860 --> 00:50:14,960
the full text of the description tag.

1245
00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:23,840
It's got the image URL, the hosting company,

1246
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,320
the top level domain of the hosting company.

1247
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,740
So like spreaker.com, transistor.fm, captivate.fm,

1248
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,320
blah, blah, blah.

1249
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:35,480
The time the feed was added, and then

1250
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,040
the source of where it came from.

1251
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:41,280
How did we, how did it come to

1252
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,200
be in the index?

1253
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,260
Was it through Podping?

1254
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:47,660
Was it through, did somebody add it using

1255
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:48,060
API?

1256
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:53,160
We also look for misses.

1257
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,680
So if somebody searches for something using a

1258
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,300
feed URL or an iTunes ID and we

1259
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:01,700
see that we do not have it in

1260
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:03,500
the index, we will add it after the

1261
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:03,840
fact.

1262
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:07,480
So search is a possible source.

1263
00:51:09,140 --> 00:51:09,900
So that's it.

1264
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:13,840
So it just dumps all that data into

1265
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,720
a CSV for the last 24 hours.

1266
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,960
That's really gonna be your main point of

1267
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,880
output for this thing.

1268
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,600
So then we already have the command line

1269
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,920
tool where you can mark feeds as certain,

1270
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,620
you know, types of, so you can say,

1271
00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:40,180
well, it's a duplicate or it's AI slop

1272
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:42,000
or it's a spam and that kind of

1273
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,220
thing.

1274
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,740
And so you can mark it that way.

1275
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:50,200
What I would like to do is not

1276
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,960
that we're going to start necessarily removing things,

1277
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,120
but what I would, I'm more, I'm less

1278
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,340
interested in removing it, removing things as I

1279
00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:04,300
am in becoming, in becoming better at classifying

1280
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:05,860
what these things actually are.

1281
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,640
So if there was 2,592 feeds in

1282
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,560
the last 24 hours without making any judgments

1283
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,560
about any of the content of any of

1284
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,740
these feeds, I think it's really, would be

1285
00:52:20,740 --> 00:52:23,800
important for all of us to know that

1286
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:29,100
X number of them are gambling sites.

1287
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,560
Well, once you know that, then you can

1288
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,180
start to make a machine learning model off

1289
00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:36,660
of it.

1290
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,540
And you can analyze as you go forward,

1291
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:46,740
you can analyze, okay, well, are the, how

1292
00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:50,260
many of this next batch is gambling sites?

1293
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,440
How many of this next batch is SEO

1294
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,360
affiliate spam?

1295
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,120
And then you can say, okay, based on

1296
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:04,000
that analysis, looking back, how many of the

1297
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,360
previous ones that were classified in this certain

1298
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,520
way, how many of those ended up being

1299
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,960
removed and when and how fast were they

1300
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,460
removed?

1301
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,860
Because, so I'm just, what I'm doing right

1302
00:53:16,860 --> 00:53:18,660
now is I'm just brain dumping out a

1303
00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:21,020
lot of the knowledge that I've acquired over

1304
00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:25,020
the last, you know, five and a half

1305
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:25,940
years of doing this.

1306
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,560
And one of the points that you can

1307
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:35,740
see very, very clearly is that trial mode

1308
00:53:35,740 --> 00:53:41,880
and free account spam is where a lot

1309
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,040
of this stuff comes from on the paid

1310
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,200
hosting providers that do not have a free

1311
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:47,600
tier.

1312
00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:53,880
So you see, for instance, like somebody will

1313
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,620
sign up temporarily for a, you know, Buzzsprout

1314
00:53:56,620 --> 00:53:57,980
or an RSS.com.

1315
00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:02,380
They'll sign up for that trial period and

1316
00:54:02,380 --> 00:54:05,400
it's just as SEO affiliate spam.

1317
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Mm-hmm.

1318
00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:08,120
And then, and transistor and these guys.

1319
00:54:08,220 --> 00:54:11,380
And so they're having to constantly fight this

1320
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,360
and by going in and nuking these feeds

1321
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,920
because these people never have any intention of

1322
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,200
actually using the system correctly or paying or

1323
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,020
anything like that.

1324
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,580
They're purely trying to get SEO links.

1325
00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:27,380
So what that looks like from the point

1326
00:54:27,380 --> 00:54:31,040
perspective of the index is it looks like

1327
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:36,300
those hosting companies will get, you'll get a

1328
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:38,980
feed that will pop up and then like

1329
00:54:38,980 --> 00:54:40,740
within 48 hours, it's gone.

1330
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,360
It's at 404s.

1331
00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:45,900
So that tells you, you know, before the

1332
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,080
trial period elapsed.

1333
00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:49,480
Mm-hmm.

1334
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:53,640
So that's a good indicator that that thing

1335
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,000
was found to be problematic on the host.

1336
00:54:58,740 --> 00:55:01,140
So then we can use that information.

1337
00:55:01,140 --> 00:55:05,440
We can say, okay, here are the qualities

1338
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,780
of that particular podcast feed.

1339
00:55:09,460 --> 00:55:12,500
Here's the properties it had.

1340
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:19,380
And then looking back in time, podcasts that

1341
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:22,760
also had those particular markers, they were rapidly

1342
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,940
removed from the host.

1343
00:55:24,980 --> 00:55:25,580
Wow.

1344
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:26,580
Yeah, this is good.

1345
00:55:26,860 --> 00:55:27,320
This is good.

1346
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:27,760
Yeah.

1347
00:55:27,860 --> 00:55:28,440
This is deep.

1348
00:55:28,740 --> 00:55:29,380
I like it.

1349
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:31,180
Yeah, so then you can flag them.

1350
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,860
And it doesn't necessarily mean that we have

1351
00:55:33,860 --> 00:55:36,060
to remove them because we don't, we really

1352
00:55:36,060 --> 00:55:38,880
don't want to get the censorship thing going

1353
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,380
or not, it's not even what it is,

1354
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:44,400
but I'm just uncomfortable us making those decisions.

1355
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,380
But we can, if you have a flag

1356
00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:50,660
on there that says, this meets the criteria

1357
00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:53,040
for what we've seen rapidly removed in the

1358
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,640
past, then you can, then we can start

1359
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,180
to, we can stick those in a separate

1360
00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:05,000
box and begin to quickly check them over

1361
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,980
and over and over, you know, and basically

1362
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:11,560
keep an eye on them and feed that

1363
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,780
data back to the hosting companies themselves.

1364
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,320
And that's the ultimate goal, really.

1365
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,160
That's really what I want to do.

1366
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,460
What I was wanting to do, the real

1367
00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:26,440
goal of this ultimately is to say, is

1368
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,480
to do an analysis of the data as

1369
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:34,040
it comes in and then feed that back

1370
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,520
to the hosting companies through some sort of

1371
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,460
- Ah, AI talking to AI.

1372
00:56:40,420 --> 00:56:45,500
Yeah, some kind of dashboard or just API

1373
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:49,260
end point where they can see feeds that

1374
00:56:49,260 --> 00:56:54,820
we have determined that they have removed in

1375
00:56:54,820 --> 00:56:57,660
the past and they can see them.

1376
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,900
And then that may make it easier for

1377
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:03,260
them to take action on it, rather than

1378
00:57:03,260 --> 00:57:07,300
having to waste their time manually searching and

1379
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:10,240
always, you know, trying to find these feeds

1380
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,060
that they're, that people are abusing their system.

1381
00:57:15,460 --> 00:57:17,220
So that's the goal.

1382
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:20,460
So this first is get the output ready,

1383
00:57:20,660 --> 00:57:24,340
which is what this, the CSV file is.

1384
00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:28,960
Then, and we've already got the sort of

1385
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,840
like human curated flag part thing.

1386
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,100
We've got that built and nobody's really using

1387
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:34,500
it really.

1388
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,100
But then if we feed that data through

1389
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:44,140
and then start to collect the 404s afterwards,

1390
00:57:44,140 --> 00:57:47,160
and I forgot to mention that part of

1391
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:52,200
this is the podcasts themselves, I'm saving the

1392
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,260
XML of these 404 podcasts in object storage

1393
00:57:57,260 --> 00:57:59,460
so that we can go back and we

1394
00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:00,940
can have them in perpetuity.

1395
00:58:01,140 --> 00:58:03,200
So like we can always go back and

1396
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,100
see what that thing looked like to train.

1397
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,340
So we can always train on that data,

1398
00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:12,560
even if the 404 is gone.

1399
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,360
And while you're doing all this, it seems

1400
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,040
like a very good way to build some

1401
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,920
kind of search system that everybody can tap

1402
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,320
into.

1403
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,520
What do you mean?

1404
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:30,080
I mean, if- You mean like the

1405
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,100
one that I broke the other day?

1406
00:58:32,540 --> 00:58:33,020
Yeah.

1407
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360
I'm just seeing an opportunity here.

1408
00:58:37,420 --> 00:58:38,440
I'm not sure how.

1409
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,080
Probably it's probably a token burner, but it

1410
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,360
seems like there is a way to create

1411
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,000
an API with all kinds of mumbo jumbo

1412
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,800
on the backend.

1413
00:58:50,780 --> 00:58:53,460
Because if we can determine if something's affiliate

1414
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:57,900
spam or slop or whatever, there are also

1415
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:00,940
transcripts available that can be read.

1416
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,620
So when someone says, hey, I'm really looking

1417
00:59:03,620 --> 00:59:05,800
for a podcast about this, this, this, and

1418
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:06,080
this.

1419
00:59:06,820 --> 00:59:09,500
If we're already doing all this work, is

1420
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:12,660
there a way to maintain some of this

1421
00:59:12,660 --> 00:59:15,480
knowledge that we create and expand it?

1422
00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:19,640
So not just get a bicycle racing podcast

1423
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,020
from the title and the description, but from

1424
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:23,420
more?

1425
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:32,400
I mean, isn't that the thing that the

1426
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,900
MCP server that was created the other day,

1427
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:36,840
isn't that kind of what he's trying to

1428
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,020
do?

1429
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:38,860
Maybe, I don't know.

1430
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,720
I don't know if the MCP is caching

1431
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,420
stuff, and I have no idea.

1432
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,200
It just feels like, you know, if there's

1433
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,160
a discoverability, hey, you like this podcast, you'll

1434
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,460
probably like this podcast.

1435
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:52,120
Oh, I see.

1436
00:59:54,580 --> 00:59:57,120
Which is one of the holy grails of

1437
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,920
podcasting that we've never achieved.

1438
01:00:02,810 --> 01:00:06,330
That goes back to the whole issue of

1439
01:00:07,710 --> 01:00:11,690
podcasts not having a way to make those

1440
01:00:11,690 --> 01:00:17,630
linkages between, like, you know, because what Google

1441
01:00:17,630 --> 01:00:26,810
does is backlinks, and the podcasts don't

1442
01:00:26,810 --> 01:00:31,070
have that linkage between them.

1443
01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:35,890
That's the major way that you find, you

1444
01:00:35,890 --> 01:00:36,170
know.

1445
01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:37,090
Right, right.

1446
01:00:37,350 --> 01:00:44,010
Things that go together, because otherwise you're trying

1447
01:00:44,010 --> 01:00:45,670
to use heuristics.

1448
01:00:45,930 --> 01:00:46,690
Yeah, that's hard.

1449
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:50,050
And heuristics are always, they just seem to

1450
01:00:50,050 --> 01:00:51,150
- Suck.

1451
01:00:51,950 --> 01:00:52,590
They suck.

1452
01:00:55,730 --> 01:01:02,790
Heuristics within a system that has 12 variables

1453
01:01:04,610 --> 01:01:06,690
is potentially useful.

1454
01:01:07,590 --> 01:01:13,530
With every additional variable, you just increase the

1455
01:01:13,530 --> 01:01:18,810
size of the set, you know, just exponentially.

1456
01:01:19,290 --> 01:01:22,770
And so you're, it quickly becomes where it's

1457
01:01:22,770 --> 01:01:24,250
almost useless.

1458
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:27,410
It's sort of like, it's like those old

1459
01:01:27,410 --> 01:01:30,270
Pandora algorithms, and I think they all kind

1460
01:01:30,270 --> 01:01:31,150
of do this.

1461
01:01:31,150 --> 01:01:32,710
Yeah, they had the music cue.

1462
01:01:32,810 --> 01:01:34,690
What was their special sauce they had?

1463
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:36,150
They had a name for that.

1464
01:01:38,010 --> 01:01:39,090
Forget what that was.

1465
01:01:39,370 --> 01:01:43,170
They had some DNA of music that they

1466
01:01:43,170 --> 01:01:46,090
came up with some parameters somehow.

1467
01:01:47,010 --> 01:01:49,270
Yeah, and it would tell you like, we're

1468
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:54,150
recommending this because it has these qualities which

1469
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:56,170
also match this other thing you said you

1470
01:01:56,170 --> 01:01:56,550
liked.

1471
01:01:56,750 --> 01:02:00,470
It was like real chatty, telling you why

1472
01:02:00,470 --> 01:02:01,390
it was giving you.

1473
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:06,090
And I always remember thinking, oh, well, that

1474
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:09,450
doesn't work for me because it would always

1475
01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:13,550
recommend, the example in my case was it

1476
01:02:13,550 --> 01:02:16,570
would, I'm a huge Rush fan, and it

1477
01:02:16,570 --> 01:02:18,610
would always recommend King's X.

1478
01:02:19,150 --> 01:02:21,070
You remember them, that band?

1479
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:23,590
It was like, we're gonna recommend King's X

1480
01:02:23,590 --> 01:02:27,510
because you like progressive rock trios with prominent

1481
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:28,230
bass players.

1482
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:29,310
And it's like, yeah, but I don't like

1483
01:02:29,310 --> 01:02:29,870
King's X.

1484
01:02:31,630 --> 01:02:34,550
And yes, all the parameters fit, but I

1485
01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:35,870
just don't like that band, I'm sorry.

1486
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:39,430
They kind of suck, yeah, that's not what

1487
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:39,910
I'm looking for.

1488
01:02:40,110 --> 01:02:41,930
It's not my thing, you know, and it's

1489
01:02:41,930 --> 01:02:43,590
like, well, why?

1490
01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:45,430
Well, I don't know, it's just not.

1491
01:02:46,110 --> 01:02:48,190
It's not for an intangible reason I can't

1492
01:02:48,190 --> 01:02:48,870
describe to you.

1493
01:02:49,810 --> 01:02:52,110
It's like, cause you can imagine that people,

1494
01:02:52,770 --> 01:02:55,510
the recommendation engine of that type would be

1495
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:58,890
like, oh, you listen to No Agenda?

1496
01:02:59,050 --> 01:03:01,350
You would like, and 90% of it

1497
01:03:01,350 --> 01:03:02,650
is gonna be, no, I don't want that,

1498
01:03:03,110 --> 01:03:04,370
I don't want that, I don't want that.

1499
01:03:04,510 --> 01:03:07,550
Unless we have the user feedback, then we

1500
01:03:07,550 --> 01:03:08,650
can make those backlinks.

1501
01:03:09,330 --> 01:03:12,150
Like you listen to No Agenda, and you

1502
01:03:12,150 --> 01:03:14,450
might like Planet Rage because there's a high

1503
01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:16,770
correlation between those two of people listening to

1504
01:03:16,770 --> 01:03:17,030
both.

1505
01:03:19,010 --> 01:03:21,750
Yeah, and then, or you listen to No

1506
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:26,970
Agenda, you would like, who's the, who was

1507
01:03:26,970 --> 01:03:28,590
that guy that did Bitcoin for a while?

1508
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:29,470
The white?

1509
01:03:30,290 --> 01:03:31,210
Which one?

1510
01:03:32,270 --> 01:03:35,390
No, the, you remember his brother is like

1511
01:03:35,390 --> 01:03:36,950
real annoying, know it all.

1512
01:03:37,970 --> 01:03:40,550
That's it, I'm drawing the blank.

1513
01:03:41,790 --> 01:03:46,030
Man, his, who was that guy?

1514
01:03:46,910 --> 01:03:47,430
I don't know.

1515
01:03:47,710 --> 01:03:49,210
This is killing me now.

1516
01:03:49,690 --> 01:03:50,410
His brother's.

1517
01:03:51,050 --> 01:03:53,550
Let's ask the computer, let's ask the robot.

1518
01:03:55,470 --> 01:03:56,990
Weinstein, Weinstein, Weinstein.

1519
01:03:57,010 --> 01:03:57,590
Brett Weinstein.

1520
01:03:58,030 --> 01:03:59,310
Brett and Eric, yes.

1521
01:03:59,470 --> 01:04:01,030
The white Bitcoin guy.

1522
01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:06,130
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brett and Eric, yeah.

1523
01:04:07,250 --> 01:04:07,990
And Heather.

1524
01:04:08,350 --> 01:04:08,910
Eric Weinstein.

1525
01:04:09,110 --> 01:04:10,830
And Heather, yes, Heather.

1526
01:04:11,030 --> 01:04:13,470
I'm here on the Dark Horse podcast.

1527
01:04:14,290 --> 01:04:15,530
Dark Horse, that's it.

1528
01:04:15,830 --> 01:04:17,570
I was, in my mind, I was thinking

1529
01:04:17,570 --> 01:04:19,530
White Horse Inn, which used to be this

1530
01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:23,190
apologetics podcast, but yeah, Dark Horse.

1531
01:04:23,370 --> 01:04:26,730
It's like you would, no No Agenda person's

1532
01:04:26,730 --> 01:04:27,730
going to want to listen to that show,

1533
01:04:27,810 --> 01:04:29,470
but it would recommend it because it's.

1534
01:04:29,650 --> 01:04:32,350
There is actually, there's actually a high correlation

1535
01:04:32,350 --> 01:04:34,450
between people who listen to No Agenda and

1536
01:04:34,450 --> 01:04:35,650
the Dark Horse podcast.

1537
01:04:35,930 --> 01:04:36,350
Really?

1538
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:37,390
Yes, there is.

1539
01:04:37,610 --> 01:04:38,650
Yes, there is.

1540
01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:40,030
Higher than you'd think.

1541
01:04:41,570 --> 01:04:44,690
There's also a correlation, listen to Dave Smith.

1542
01:04:44,990 --> 01:04:45,830
Oh yeah, yeah.

1543
01:04:46,830 --> 01:04:47,650
That's annoying.

1544
01:04:47,650 --> 01:04:50,710
Well, I want to thank James for a

1545
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:52,550
second for the work he's doing on Runway.

1546
01:04:52,690 --> 01:04:53,990
Have you been following that at all?

1547
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:57,170
Yes, I haven't used it, but I've been

1548
01:04:57,170 --> 01:04:58,810
eagerly reading his posts.

1549
01:04:59,170 --> 01:05:00,810
There seems to be a bug in it,

1550
01:05:00,850 --> 01:05:03,210
what I read today, but that's, it's pretty

1551
01:05:03,210 --> 01:05:03,690
cool.

1552
01:05:05,850 --> 01:05:06,270
You input.

1553
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:06,810
How do I try it?

1554
01:05:06,910 --> 01:05:07,390
Where do I do it?

1555
01:05:07,390 --> 01:05:08,970
Well, you need the Strike wallet.

1556
01:05:09,810 --> 01:05:10,570
Yeah, I've got that.

1557
01:05:10,710 --> 01:05:13,930
Okay, then you go to dashboard.strike.me

1558
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:16,410
and you get an API key and then

1559
01:05:16,410 --> 01:05:18,970
you go to podnews.net slash runway.

1560
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:22,490
And you create an API key, obviously just

1561
01:05:22,490 --> 01:05:25,790
read only, not like make transactions, duh.

1562
01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:29,290
And then you click the button and it

1563
01:05:29,290 --> 01:05:32,490
brings in your transactions and it shows you,

1564
01:05:33,350 --> 01:05:35,390
it has metadata.

1565
01:05:35,710 --> 01:05:38,210
I think he's proxying from some of the

1566
01:05:38,210 --> 01:05:40,430
apps, like maybe Fountain, I'm not quite sure.

1567
01:05:40,650 --> 01:05:43,890
Not everyone's doing the same format, but it

1568
01:05:43,890 --> 01:05:44,850
really works.

1569
01:05:44,850 --> 01:05:47,730
And it shows you the Boostergram data and

1570
01:05:47,730 --> 01:05:49,430
it shows you the original amount.

1571
01:05:50,430 --> 01:05:52,410
And I wonder if he's vibe coding it.

1572
01:05:52,550 --> 01:05:55,010
I have a feeling he may be, but

1573
01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:56,510
it's cool.

1574
01:05:58,490 --> 01:06:00,090
It's in local storage, right?

1575
01:06:00,490 --> 01:06:00,830
Yes.

1576
01:06:00,970 --> 01:06:01,450
In the browser?

1577
01:06:01,650 --> 01:06:01,950
Yes.

1578
01:06:02,910 --> 01:06:04,170
Does it take a while to build?

1579
01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:05,670
No, no.

1580
01:06:06,190 --> 01:06:09,190
I mean, I have a lot of transactions.

1581
01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:10,730
Let me see, actually, I could take a

1582
01:06:10,730 --> 01:06:11,390
look at it now.

1583
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:14,390
There we go, runway.

1584
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:16,170
Okay, let me get my, where's my key?

1585
01:06:19,530 --> 01:06:23,810
Let me see, James, where's James?

1586
01:06:23,930 --> 01:06:24,490
Here we go.

1587
01:06:25,710 --> 01:06:26,970
Yes, I have my key.

1588
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:27,550
Okay.

1589
01:06:27,650 --> 01:06:29,270
Runway, I just, oh, okay.

1590
01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:33,030
Yeah, Helipad Runway, it's cute, it's super cute.

1591
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:37,030
Yeah, all right, store, all right.

1592
01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:41,490
Fetch latest payments, 1,000, 2,000, 3

1593
01:06:41,490 --> 01:06:46,650
,000, 4,000, 5,000, 6,000.

1594
01:06:47,730 --> 01:06:49,770
You didn't take this long last time.

1595
01:06:49,850 --> 01:06:51,290
Well, I do, I have a lot of,

1596
01:06:51,470 --> 01:06:52,030
I have a lot.

1597
01:06:52,090 --> 01:06:52,670
Oh, here we go.

1598
01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:55,330
Getting 100, 200, boom, there it is.

1599
01:06:55,630 --> 01:06:57,430
You can say, okay, you have filters, so

1600
01:06:57,430 --> 01:07:00,050
you can say show boosts only, click on

1601
01:07:00,050 --> 01:07:00,490
that.

1602
01:07:02,930 --> 01:07:06,170
And here we go, payment details, salty crayon,

1603
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:08,150
using Podcast Guru, howdy, Dave and Adam.

1604
01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:11,870
Congrats on 250 episodes of JSON's TLV records,

1605
01:07:11,870 --> 01:07:15,670
pinging the Pong's key send and LNURL madness.

1606
01:07:16,330 --> 01:07:18,830
We're still, we'd still be writing blogs without

1607
01:07:18,830 --> 01:07:20,790
podcasting 2.0, then he has a delimiter

1608
01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:22,710
for more than seven days ago.

1609
01:07:24,170 --> 01:07:27,270
It's really quite spectacular.

1610
01:07:28,250 --> 01:07:28,890
Cool.

1611
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:31,170
Yeah, show all.

1612
01:07:31,930 --> 01:07:33,490
Good job, James, this is nice.

1613
01:07:33,930 --> 01:07:37,750
It's super nice, especially because the main thing

1614
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:39,870
is it shows the full amount.

1615
01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:42,730
So what you receive, because I only have

1616
01:07:42,730 --> 01:07:44,270
a 1% split on this, so I

1617
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:46,410
get one sat, but I can see it's

1618
01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:50,170
50 sats from Nicholas underscore B58 at fountain

1619
01:07:50,170 --> 01:07:57,140
.fm. Well, I think if you, I think

1620
01:07:57,140 --> 01:08:00,080
if you have, if you have it all

1621
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,060
in local storage, you should be able, it

1622
01:08:04,060 --> 01:08:04,900
should be persistent.

1623
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,740
I think so.

1624
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,780
It would, it's probably not persistent on mobile.

1625
01:08:10,780 --> 01:08:13,280
I think they have different requirements, but on

1626
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:18,020
the, on a regular desktop browser, it should,

1627
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:18,580
it should.

1628
01:08:18,779 --> 01:08:19,260
It works great.

1629
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:23,420
I mean, I hadn't even, I hadn't even

1630
01:08:23,420 --> 01:08:25,840
put it on this browser yet.

1631
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,020
And so I just did that live.

1632
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,500
I did it live in real time.

1633
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,240
And there's a CSV export.

1634
01:08:30,340 --> 01:08:30,600
Hello.

1635
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:31,580
Hey.

1636
01:08:31,899 --> 01:08:32,200
Hello.

1637
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:34,180
The only one he had trouble with, I

1638
01:08:34,180 --> 01:08:35,140
think was podcast guru.

1639
01:08:35,340 --> 01:08:37,520
And if I'm not mistaken, I saw Jason

1640
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,760
come back and say he would work on

1641
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:39,439
changing format.

1642
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:39,899
Yeah.

1643
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,859
So it's, it's helipad for strike.

1644
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:43,359
That's great.

1645
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:44,700
Yeah, it is.

1646
01:08:44,819 --> 01:08:46,439
The fact that James is doing it is

1647
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:47,279
kind of interesting.

1648
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,220
Like James just got riled up all of

1649
01:08:50,220 --> 01:08:52,080
a sudden about, about this.

1650
01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:52,680
I like it.

1651
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:54,120
Yeah.

1652
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,399
Oh, it's, it's really good to see some

1653
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:58,500
movement on that direction.

1654
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:00,939
Cause the, I feel like, I feel like

1655
01:09:00,939 --> 01:09:03,700
we're languishing here with the value for value.

1656
01:09:03,979 --> 01:09:06,500
Well, don't look at chat F then.

1657
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,020
I mean, I just made like, it's like,

1658
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,680
there's no, I don't know.

1659
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,319
The thing that's kind of sad, and you

1660
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:15,620
and I were talking about this the other

1661
01:09:15,620 --> 01:09:15,939
day.

1662
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:20,160
The thing that's sad is, Wave Lake.

1663
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:21,720
Yeah.

1664
01:09:21,819 --> 01:09:22,439
That, yeah.

1665
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,520
I think it just got overrun.

1666
01:09:24,660 --> 01:09:27,580
They've just been inundated with slop, you know?

1667
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,279
And then of course, why wouldn't you?

1668
01:09:29,319 --> 01:09:30,859
Hey, I can put some slop on there

1669
01:09:30,859 --> 01:09:31,740
and get some sats.

1670
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,720
You know, that's, that's a problem.

1671
01:09:35,220 --> 01:09:37,500
That's a real, in general, the music industry

1672
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:39,500
in general, but that's just like, ah, that's

1673
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:40,080
so sad.

1674
01:09:41,020 --> 01:09:44,060
I guess what I mean by languishing is

1675
01:09:44,060 --> 01:09:50,680
like, it just, everything seems to have the

1676
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:57,840
switch over from Key Send to, to Bolt

1677
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:58,760
11 invoices.

1678
01:10:00,020 --> 01:10:04,720
It feels like it made everything a lot

1679
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:05,680
harder.

1680
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,060
You know, and so it's, it's like when,

1681
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,540
when there was this, this one API, you

1682
01:10:14,540 --> 01:10:15,060
know, Albie.

1683
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:16,120
Sure.

1684
01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:18,140
That you, that was supporting everybody.

1685
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:19,600
We're not, it's like, oh, here's an API,

1686
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:20,460
write to it, done.

1687
01:10:21,180 --> 01:10:24,740
So, but now people are having to work

1688
01:10:24,740 --> 01:10:27,260
harder, and that usually means there's a lot

1689
01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:27,940
of drop-off.

1690
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,740
So it's really good, like seeing Chad F.

1691
01:10:30,740 --> 01:10:33,580
and James and everybody, seeing everybody do these

1692
01:10:33,580 --> 01:10:35,680
things, like, like step up and write to

1693
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,480
it, and that code and that kind of

1694
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:36,600
thing.

1695
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,280
That's great.

1696
01:10:37,540 --> 01:10:38,260
Yeah, look at this.

1697
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:40,180
And Oscar is still, you know, he's still

1698
01:10:40,180 --> 01:10:40,760
doing his thing.

1699
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,680
I got payments last updated, February 13th.

1700
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,540
141 total payments.

1701
01:10:46,140 --> 01:10:49,000
Analyze 500, last seven days, total payments before

1702
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:49,540
splits.

1703
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,200
And it gives me a total sat streamed

1704
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:53,900
before splits.

1705
01:10:53,980 --> 01:10:54,620
This is nice.

1706
01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:56,420
This is really good.

1707
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,520
This is quite, quite amazing.

1708
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,120
Yeah, Eric PP said it's all, he said

1709
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,880
Key Send made it easy, and now you

1710
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,400
have to store the boost info somewhere, but

1711
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:06,420
it's all starting to work.

1712
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,140
It is.

1713
01:11:07,220 --> 01:11:08,740
This is what I'm seeing.

1714
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,260
Exactly.

1715
01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:10,980
It's starting to come together.

1716
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:14,980
There was a dip as, as the, as

1717
01:11:14,980 --> 01:11:17,100
just everybody had to readjust.

1718
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,620
And then, you know, Chad and, and people

1719
01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:23,280
are doing, they're pushing through the dip.

1720
01:11:25,260 --> 01:11:27,340
Pushing through the, through the, the wall of

1721
01:11:27,340 --> 01:11:27,880
fatigue.

1722
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,020
Yeah, right.

1723
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:29,460
Yeah, yeah.

1724
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,100
And so it's like, cause I think there

1725
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:32,840
was a, there was a general feeling of,

1726
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,640
really, this whole thing was, we had it

1727
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,720
baked and now it's like, we gotta start

1728
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:39,060
over.

1729
01:11:39,220 --> 01:11:41,300
Well, this is, this is getting exciting.

1730
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:43,040
This is really getting exciting again.

1731
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,700
I don't see the one coming in from

1732
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:47,160
true fans.

1733
01:11:48,140 --> 01:11:49,940
Yeah, it does remind me of Con Shacks.

1734
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,540
Oh yeah, Con Shack.

1735
01:11:52,820 --> 01:11:54,280
Oh gosh, I forgot about them.

1736
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,420
Yeah, Con Shacks.

1737
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,820
So many people have come and gone, man.

1738
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,580
So many people.

1739
01:11:58,880 --> 01:11:58,980
Build the dip.

1740
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:00,180
Yeah, build the dip.

1741
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:00,900
Build the dip.

1742
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:03,300
I like that too.

1743
01:12:03,460 --> 01:12:04,040
Build the dip.

1744
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Wow.

1745
01:12:05,140 --> 01:12:08,420
Did you see how high inception point was

1746
01:12:08,420 --> 01:12:09,080
in that report?

1747
01:12:09,220 --> 01:12:10,180
Oh, number one, baby.

1748
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:11,200
Yeah.

1749
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:12,840
Yeah, they're just pumping it.

1750
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,400
You know, they're doing traffic reports now.

1751
01:12:14,940 --> 01:12:17,440
Well, as I was looking through your, through

1752
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:21,320
your list here, I saw, and this is

1753
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:21,980
kind of interesting.

1754
01:12:22,180 --> 01:12:23,240
What was it that I saw?

1755
01:12:24,260 --> 01:12:24,780
Let me see.

1756
01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:27,120
Chicago safety brief.

1757
01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:30,320
I can see where that might be.

1758
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,480
So Chicago safety brief, Chicago energy report.

1759
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:37,060
You know, I can see where that might

1760
01:12:37,060 --> 01:12:39,000
not be a horrible thing to have in

1761
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:39,420
the morning.

1762
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,360
Just, I don't know how long it is.

1763
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:41,940
Let me see.

1764
01:12:42,140 --> 01:12:43,920
But these are not linked, obviously.

1765
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,140
Let me, let me take a look in

1766
01:12:47,140 --> 01:12:47,780
the index.

1767
01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:50,320
Thank you, by the way, for fixing the

1768
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:50,700
search.

1769
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:52,900
Are you good now?

1770
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:53,860
Yeah, yeah.

1771
01:12:53,980 --> 01:12:54,700
That was weird.

1772
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,560
I'm like, I can't find this podcast I'm

1773
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,200
looking for.

1774
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,420
It's giving me all kinds of other stuff.

1775
01:12:59,420 --> 01:13:02,340
Here, let's see the, let's see the Chicago

1776
01:13:02,340 --> 01:13:03,280
safety brief.

1777
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,420
Let's listen and see what this is.

1778
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:07,940
Okay, here we go.

1779
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,200
Good morning, Chicago.

1780
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,160
Here's your safety brief for February 12th, 2026.

1781
01:13:13,820 --> 01:13:16,760
Overnight, local authorities responded to one incidence across

1782
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,600
the metro area.

1783
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,600
No major emergencies reported.

1784
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,480
It's 30, it's 40 seconds long.

1785
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,700
I can see that as being something I'd

1786
01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:24,400
subscribe to.

1787
01:13:24,820 --> 01:13:25,760
No ads?

1788
01:13:26,620 --> 01:13:28,100
I did not get an ad, no.

1789
01:13:29,420 --> 01:13:30,780
It's by Inception Point AI.

1790
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:31,900
Good morning, Chicago.

1791
01:13:32,420 --> 01:13:33,500
No ads, hmm.

1792
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,240
Interesting.

1793
01:13:36,980 --> 01:13:37,740
That's interesting.

1794
01:13:38,540 --> 01:13:39,700
No ads.

1795
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,280
I'm not sure how, I'm not sure how

1796
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,480
prescient of a traffic report is in your

1797
01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:48,140
podcast app.

1798
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:52,120
I mean, those things change minute by minute.

1799
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:55,180
Right, but you know, in the morning, I

1800
01:13:55,180 --> 01:13:57,320
look at my most recent in Godcaster and

1801
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:02,860
there's SRN News, Fox News, Pastor Jimmy's devotional,

1802
01:14:03,540 --> 01:14:05,480
Pod News.

1803
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,440
These are all very short things that I

1804
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,360
just hit play and it just runs through

1805
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,760
them while I'm taking a shower.

1806
01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:11,920
Sorry for the visual.

1807
01:14:12,980 --> 01:14:15,340
And you know, and it's like, yeah, I

1808
01:14:15,340 --> 01:14:17,640
wouldn't mind listening if there was a local

1809
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,340
Fredericksburg overnight police report or traffic report, I'd

1810
01:14:21,340 --> 01:14:22,240
probably put that in there.

1811
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,820
I mean, this is not the best AI

1812
01:14:24,820 --> 01:14:30,460
voice I've heard, but nothing that, what's that?

1813
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,260
That Chinese thing, QI-TTS, QI-3-TTS.

1814
01:14:36,860 --> 01:14:39,660
Oh, Quinn, Quinn, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1815
01:14:39,660 --> 01:14:41,780
Yeah, I'm good, QI, QI, Quinn, whatever.

1816
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,800
You know, I can, that's not, that's valid

1817
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:47,260
to me.

1818
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:49,980
You don't think so?

1819
01:14:50,860 --> 01:14:53,400
Oh, I'm sorry, I got distracted because everybody's,

1820
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,440
I'm seeing now people were saying that there's,

1821
01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:59,260
that we're not, they didn't get the live

1822
01:14:59,260 --> 01:14:59,780
pod ping.

1823
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:01,020
Did we not?

1824
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,740
I hit it, I hit it, I hit

1825
01:15:02,740 --> 01:15:03,860
it, I hit it.

1826
01:15:03,980 --> 01:15:05,860
Yeah, I hit the live pod ping.

1827
01:15:06,780 --> 01:15:07,940
I remember doing it.

1828
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:13,940
I did it at 1225, so who's saying

1829
01:15:13,940 --> 01:15:14,700
they didn't get it?

1830
01:15:17,260 --> 01:15:20,840
Oh, let's see, Justin at Transistor City didn't

1831
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:21,360
get it.

1832
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,940
Trying to listen live for the first time.

1833
01:15:24,060 --> 01:15:25,200
I clicked through on your link and went

1834
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:26,880
to the true fans and found pages on

1835
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,460
the web, no live indicator.

1836
01:15:29,780 --> 01:15:31,800
I definitely hit it.

1837
01:15:34,340 --> 01:15:36,560
Oh, is it a true fans problem, maybe?

1838
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:39,000
I don't know.

1839
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,540
See, I've done a manual refresh of the

1840
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:45,980
RSS feed, Sam said, and we are not

1841
01:15:45,980 --> 01:15:47,980
seeing any pod ping update for podcasting 2

1842
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:52,460
.0. Hmm, well, look at my feed, baby.

1843
01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:54,840
Okay.

1844
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,640
I hate it when that happens.

1845
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,640
Podcasting 2.0, all right, let me look

1846
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:03,220
at the feed.

1847
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:05,620
Where'd it feed at?

1848
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,180
Here we go.

1849
01:16:07,740 --> 01:16:08,080
Feed.

1850
01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:12,160
Yeah, well, there was a pod ping that

1851
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:12,460
went out.

1852
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,780
I see the live bot, podcast live bot

1853
01:16:15,780 --> 01:16:16,760
posted it.

1854
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,120
And I'm looking at the feed.

1855
01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:21,880
Are we not working?

1856
01:16:23,860 --> 01:16:26,840
And yes, status equals live.

1857
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:28,400
Yeah.

1858
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,140
Let me check Castamatic here, live.

1859
01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:33,800
Yeah, we're live in Castamatic.

1860
01:16:34,460 --> 01:16:34,760
Yeah.

1861
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,380
Suck it.

1862
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,140
Suck it, true fans.

1863
01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:38,900
Suck it.

1864
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,420
Yes, status equals live.

1865
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,980
Yeah, yeah, we're good.

1866
01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:45,900
We're live, man.

1867
01:16:46,620 --> 01:16:47,080
I don't know.

1868
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,840
I don't know what happened, but okay.

1869
01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:56,360
Oh, Seth said it eventually worked, just very

1870
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,920
delayed, about an hour late.

1871
01:16:58,700 --> 01:16:59,620
An hour late?

1872
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,340
That's interesting.

1873
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:03,420
For the pod ping?

1874
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:04,740
It went out.

1875
01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:08,240
I show that the pod ping, podcast live,

1876
01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:12,720
so that's, so podcast live at podcastindex.social

1877
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,880
is Burlock's live bot.

1878
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,160
Yeah.

1879
01:17:17,740 --> 01:17:20,160
Whenever there's a pod ping that goes out,

1880
01:17:20,300 --> 01:17:22,800
a live pod ping, he posts it through

1881
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,620
that bot and it posted at 1226.

1882
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:27,200
Yeah, there you go.

1883
01:17:27,260 --> 01:17:27,960
So that's immediate.

1884
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:29,540
Yeah.

1885
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,720
I don't know.

1886
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,860
It's amazing any of this crap works at

1887
01:17:33,860 --> 01:17:34,440
all, Dave.

1888
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:35,720
Yes.

1889
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:36,900
It truly is.

1890
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:37,840
It truly is.

1891
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,280
By the way, Eric PP did something very

1892
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,920
cool on the website, on the podcast index

1893
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,480
website.

1894
01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:52,000
He implemented a proof of work defense against

1895
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:52,840
scrapers.

1896
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,240
And is that something I can see?

1897
01:17:57,700 --> 01:17:58,460
No.

1898
01:17:58,760 --> 01:17:59,020
Okay.

1899
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:03,760
So what it is, the website has always

1900
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,360
been a weak point for us on the

1901
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,860
API because the website itself uses the API.

1902
01:18:10,460 --> 01:18:12,080
For adding a podcast, you mean?

1903
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,740
Well, not just for that, but for it

1904
01:18:15,740 --> 01:18:17,380
uses it to get all of this data.

1905
01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:22,060
And because it's using that, what it means

1906
01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:24,240
is somebody can scrape the- And use

1907
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:24,760
the API.

1908
01:18:25,260 --> 01:18:27,340
And use the API without having an API

1909
01:18:27,340 --> 01:18:27,720
key.

1910
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:28,420
Right.

1911
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,960
So they're just doing HTML scraping, essentially, or

1912
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,980
calling the wrong- SecOps, SecOps.

1913
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:35,020
SecOps.

1914
01:18:35,820 --> 01:18:37,140
Call out the purple team.

1915
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,160
And so what he did was he added,

1916
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:48,320
whenever there's an API call that happens, so

1917
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,020
whenever the main page calls one of the

1918
01:18:51,020 --> 01:19:00,860
API backend, it uses JavaScript to

1919
01:19:00,860 --> 01:19:03,280
make the browser do a proof of work

1920
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,580
calculation first.

1921
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,120
And you can set the difficulty of that.

1922
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:07,740
You can set the difficulty to how high

1923
01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:08,580
you want it to be.

1924
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,720
And then it has to find the solution

1925
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,800
to the POW problem and include the solution

1926
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,000
in its API, in its call.

1927
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:22,740
Oh, interesting.

1928
01:19:22,980 --> 01:19:26,320
So it slows down the site- A

1929
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:26,720
little bit?

1930
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,020
Very slightly, yeah.

1931
01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:35,080
But it's going to overall serve to throttle

1932
01:19:35,700 --> 01:19:40,500
the traffic coming from the website- To

1933
01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:40,980
the API.

1934
01:19:40,980 --> 01:19:41,420
Scraping bots.

1935
01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:42,460
Nice.

1936
01:19:43,220 --> 01:19:43,820
Yeah, yeah.

1937
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:44,880
That's very good.

1938
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:45,380
It's really cool.

1939
01:19:45,620 --> 01:19:48,980
Him and David Marzall are doing, they're doing

1940
01:19:48,980 --> 01:19:50,840
tons of stuff on the website, and it's

1941
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:51,360
awesome.

1942
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,140
So I'm very appreciative to them for doing

1943
01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:59,120
that, for maintaining the website and keeping it

1944
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,020
going.

1945
01:20:01,180 --> 01:20:02,040
Keeping it running, baby.

1946
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:02,820
Keeping it running.

1947
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:03,400
Yes.

1948
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,320
Shall we thank a few people?

1949
01:20:06,260 --> 01:20:06,720
Oh yeah, sure.

1950
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,940
Kick it off right away with Lyceum.

1951
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:13,920
That's Martin Lindes' code.

1952
01:20:14,020 --> 01:20:15,600
Coming in from true fans.

1953
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,800
Row of ducks, 22, 22.

1954
01:20:17,980 --> 01:20:20,160
And you know, I actually got my, actually

1955
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,700
got my ducks back.

1956
01:20:22,380 --> 01:20:22,740
There you go.

1957
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:25,160
Late to the game.

1958
01:20:25,420 --> 01:20:27,280
I'm glad that Sam could fix the live

1959
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:27,960
stream manually.

1960
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,840
Friday fun, grocery shopping, and sushi takeaway, and

1961
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,520
listening to you guys, ducks in a row.

1962
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:33,520
There you go.

1963
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,600
Coming in from podcast guru, two and a

1964
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,540
half thousand sats from Salty Crayon.

1965
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:39,760
Howdy, Dave and Adam.

1966
01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:41,440
Congrats on two, I read this one earlier

1967
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:42,540
from the runway.

1968
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,120
Congrats on 250 episodes of Jason's TLV records,

1969
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,260
Ping in the Pong, Key Send, and Ellen

1970
01:20:48,260 --> 01:20:49,080
URL Madness.

1971
01:20:49,140 --> 01:20:51,380
We'd still be writing blogs about podcasting 2

1972
01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:52,700
.0. I don't know about that.

1973
01:20:53,420 --> 01:20:54,740
I appreciate the sentiment.

1974
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,220
And I think that's it.

1975
01:20:59,220 --> 01:21:01,660
The next one I have is Chad F.

1976
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:02,540
from five days ago.

1977
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,960
So that's probably in your rundown.

1978
01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:11,240
I've got, for some reason, for some reason

1979
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:12,760
when I pulled the- While you're looking,

1980
01:21:13,020 --> 01:21:15,260
I will explain a few things.

1981
01:21:15,420 --> 01:21:18,180
One, this is a value for value project.

1982
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,360
The podcast is just the funnel of the

1983
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:21,760
project.

1984
01:21:21,940 --> 01:21:23,740
This is where we suck people in who

1985
01:21:23,740 --> 01:21:25,740
want to come in and hang out, develop,

1986
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,340
make podcasting better, extend it, do whatever you

1987
01:21:28,340 --> 01:21:28,580
want.

1988
01:21:28,580 --> 01:21:32,320
This is just a crazy jam that we

1989
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,400
have every single week.

1990
01:21:33,460 --> 01:21:34,360
We call it the board meeting.

1991
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,740
Your value for value support supports directly and

1992
01:21:38,740 --> 01:21:40,420
only the podcast index.

1993
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,720
To keep the machines running, keep enough running

1994
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,380
so that if no one, if anyone decides

1995
01:21:45,380 --> 01:21:47,900
this, if everyone just stops supporting us, we

1996
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:50,000
can go for another year or two, maybe

1997
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,760
a little longer, depending on how lean we

1998
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:53,180
run it.

1999
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,240
But it does go directly to making everything

2000
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:57,540
run.

2001
01:21:57,540 --> 01:21:59,580
And we appreciate all of the support that

2002
01:21:59,580 --> 01:22:00,220
everybody gives.

2003
01:22:00,460 --> 01:22:05,020
We had a huge node issue a few

2004
01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:05,600
days ago.

2005
01:22:05,740 --> 01:22:07,800
And thank you to Graham over at Voltage,

2006
01:22:08,180 --> 01:22:10,420
the man who literally never sleeps.

2007
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:13,980
Like, I get a ping from you like,

2008
01:22:14,060 --> 01:22:15,080
hey, is the node broken?

2009
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,660
And I don't even go look anymore.

2010
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,580
I just like, Graham, the node's broken.

2011
01:22:21,340 --> 01:22:21,640
Boom.

2012
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:22,580
Oh, let me take a look.

2013
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,060
I'm in it.

2014
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,200
We were, that thing was restarting and rebooting

2015
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,240
for like 36 hours, probably.

2016
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,100
Yeah, it was bad.

2017
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:32,300
What was the problem?

2018
01:22:32,460 --> 01:22:35,040
First of all, it's because we have, I

2019
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,120
mean, our node is just bigger than most

2020
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:37,720
guys' node.

2021
01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:38,860
Let's be honest about it.

2022
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,560
We got a huge node and we're pretty

2023
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:42,220
proud of it.

2024
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,200
All the ladies go, woo, look at that

2025
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:44,520
node.

2026
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,240
People can't handle our node.

2027
01:22:49,820 --> 01:22:50,940
No, they can't.

2028
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:54,080
But was it breaking because of your script,

2029
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:55,820
trying to drag stuff out?

2030
01:22:55,820 --> 01:22:56,660
That's what was happening?

2031
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:57,760
I figured that's what it was.

2032
01:22:57,980 --> 01:23:01,500
Well, I used Boz, Balance of Satoshis.

2033
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,980
I used that to export all the transactions

2034
01:23:05,980 --> 01:23:08,920
for the year for taxes.

2035
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:09,340
Yeah.

2036
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,340
And it's always worked in the past, but

2037
01:23:13,340 --> 01:23:16,280
then, but last year I had a lot

2038
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,660
of trouble with it and I had to,

2039
01:23:18,340 --> 01:23:22,400
and Alex Bosworth had to put in an

2040
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:27,900
extra command line argument just to support basically

2041
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:28,540
us.

2042
01:23:29,220 --> 01:23:30,820
Because what you could do is you could

2043
01:23:30,820 --> 01:23:34,480
do it by year and by month, but

2044
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:37,100
then the month was still too much.

2045
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,120
It was still causing too much memory usage.

2046
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,340
And so we had to do it down

2047
01:23:40,340 --> 01:23:41,800
to like the, you could add the day

2048
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:42,240
also.

2049
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:43,420
So I had to go like day by

2050
01:23:43,420 --> 01:23:43,720
day.

2051
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:44,000
Oh no.

2052
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:45,560
Yes.

2053
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,700
Yeah, that's a lot of days.

2054
01:23:49,460 --> 01:23:50,940
So I still have the script from last

2055
01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:53,400
year and I just bumped the number up

2056
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,160
to 2025 and ran it again.

2057
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,900
And I just left to go to the

2058
01:23:57,900 --> 01:23:58,340
office.

2059
01:23:59,180 --> 01:24:02,020
And then like by lunchtime, I was getting

2060
01:24:02,020 --> 01:24:04,160
messages that the node was down.

2061
01:24:05,340 --> 01:24:05,740
Whoops.

2062
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:08,500
And then the next day, we got it

2063
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:09,180
back up and running.

2064
01:24:09,260 --> 01:24:10,320
And then the next day I tried to

2065
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:11,820
run the script again and it crashed the

2066
01:24:11,820 --> 01:24:12,360
node again.

2067
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,620
And we just got so many transactions that

2068
01:24:14,620 --> 01:24:17,000
we can't handle it.

2069
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,160
We can't suck anything out of our node.

2070
01:24:20,180 --> 01:24:26,440
So the LND uses, I think it's a

2071
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:31,520
Go language native key value store called B

2072
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:31,820
-Bolt.

2073
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:36,120
And it's not a true database, according to

2074
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:36,400
Graham.

2075
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,000
It's just more of like a, just a

2076
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,380
big key value store.

2077
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,900
I guess maybe like Mongo kind of.

2078
01:24:42,020 --> 01:24:42,320
Yeah.

2079
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,700
But it's meant for like built-in library

2080
01:24:45,700 --> 01:24:47,040
inside a small app.

2081
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,560
It was never really intended to be able

2082
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,640
to use it at this scale that we're

2083
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:52,340
using it at.

2084
01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:56,000
And so that's why the LND project has

2085
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,320
undergone this massive transition to SQLite.

2086
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,100
Oh, I didn't realize that we're doing that.

2087
01:25:01,380 --> 01:25:01,680
Oh, okay.

2088
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,120
Yes, it's going to take forever to finish

2089
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:05,400
this.

2090
01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:08,620
I mean, like they're transitioning like one table

2091
01:25:08,620 --> 01:25:11,900
at a time over a period of probably

2092
01:25:11,900 --> 01:25:12,760
a couple of years.

2093
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,500
And so this, but that doesn't help us

2094
01:25:17,500 --> 01:25:18,660
because we're not there yet.

2095
01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:21,140
And so what Graham ended up ultimately having

2096
01:25:21,140 --> 01:25:23,320
to do was he just sent me the

2097
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:28,480
raw channels.db and it was 40 gigabytes.

2098
01:25:28,740 --> 01:25:29,200
Deal with it.

2099
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:31,480
40 gigabytes.

2100
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:32,700
How did he send that to you?

2101
01:25:32,820 --> 01:25:33,340
Email?

2102
01:25:35,860 --> 01:25:39,960
Yeah, he sent me an object storage link

2103
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,000
and I downloaded it.

2104
01:25:42,660 --> 01:25:48,360
And I vibe coded a transaction extractor out

2105
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,120
of- In about 45 minutes.

2106
01:25:52,980 --> 01:25:56,600
And so I just extracted the raw transactions

2107
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,240
right out of the B-Bolt database.

2108
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:01,140
This kind of blows away your whole argument

2109
01:26:01,140 --> 01:26:02,480
for the first half of the show.

2110
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:03,180
You love it.

2111
01:26:03,260 --> 01:26:04,080
I know you love it.

2112
01:26:04,220 --> 01:26:07,560
You are characterizing my argument as an anti

2113
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,860
-AI coding argument.

2114
01:26:09,860 --> 01:26:11,480
That is not what it was.

2115
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:11,940
No, no, no, no.

2116
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:16,200
But did you get a, wait, was it

2117
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,700
a dopamine magic?

2118
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:19,400
What was it?

2119
01:26:20,740 --> 01:26:21,640
Dopaminergic response.

2120
01:26:22,620 --> 01:26:24,020
Dopaminergic response, yes.

2121
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,880
Maybe I did in my pants.

2122
01:26:28,780 --> 01:26:30,220
Dopaminergic, I got to write this down.

2123
01:26:32,180 --> 01:26:32,660
Dopaminergic.

2124
01:26:32,740 --> 01:26:33,480
With an N?

2125
01:26:34,260 --> 01:26:35,200
Dopaminergic, okay.

2126
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,160
Yeah, like nerd, but nerdge.

2127
01:26:38,580 --> 01:26:40,080
Dopaminergic, is it ma-nergic?

2128
01:26:41,140 --> 01:26:43,600
Dopa, D-O-P-A-M-I-N.

2129
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,720
Oh, M-I-N, dopaminergic.

2130
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,860
E-R-G-I-C, dopaminergic.

2131
01:26:48,060 --> 01:26:48,900
I'm going to use this.

2132
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,520
I'm going to use this in my everyday

2133
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:51,240
parlance.

2134
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,860
You're getting a real dopaminergic response from that

2135
01:26:56,860 --> 01:26:58,180
doom scrolling you're doing, baby.

2136
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,020
I feel like you can weave that into

2137
01:27:01,020 --> 01:27:01,980
- Anything.

2138
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,420
To the Valentine's Day dinner with Tina.

2139
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,800
I don't know, Pastor Jimmy should do it

2140
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:08,940
in the service on Sunday.

2141
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,400
I believe in you.

2142
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:11,880
I believe this is possible.

2143
01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:15,000
No, no, I'm sorry if you got that

2144
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:15,420
impression.

2145
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,840
Yeah, I was not, and I do not

2146
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,880
want to give that impression because that's not

2147
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,580
how I feel, but I do, I think

2148
01:27:24,580 --> 01:27:26,360
there are concerns that we just have not

2149
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:27,240
fully unearthed yet.

2150
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,020
Oh, well- And it doesn't mean when

2151
01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:30,920
we know the concerns that we'll stop using

2152
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:31,140
it.

2153
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:32,300
I mean, it just means that we have

2154
01:27:32,300 --> 01:27:33,020
to figure it out.

2155
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,440
Well, you always have to remember one thing.

2156
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,020
Let me see if I can find it.

2157
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:41,820
Yes.

2158
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,160
We're all going to die.

2159
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:44,860
That's all you need to remember.

2160
01:27:44,940 --> 01:27:45,100
Yes, this is true.

2161
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:47,340
We're all going to die.

2162
01:27:47,340 --> 01:27:47,500
We all need to remember that.

2163
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,620
We're all going to die, no matter what.

2164
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:50,120
Yes.

2165
01:27:50,300 --> 01:27:51,220
What was I even doing?

2166
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,040
We were going to thank some people.

2167
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,180
Oh, yeah, that's right.

2168
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,780
And you were complaining about your thing didn't

2169
01:27:56,780 --> 01:27:58,260
extract right or whatever.

2170
01:27:58,420 --> 01:27:58,900
I'm not sure.

2171
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,660
Oh, yeah, I couldn't get everything out of

2172
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:01,040
my node.

2173
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,180
The, all right, Sterling Ellsworth.

2174
01:28:04,380 --> 01:28:05,240
Oh, we got some PayPal's here.

2175
01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:06,120
These are all mixed up.

2176
01:28:07,140 --> 01:28:09,860
Sterling Ellsworth, $22.20. And he just, his

2177
01:28:09,860 --> 01:28:11,160
note just says, Sir Sterling.

2178
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:12,780
Oh, Sir Sterling, thank you.

2179
01:28:14,740 --> 01:28:16,040
Kevin Bay, $5.

2180
01:28:16,440 --> 01:28:17,160
Thank you, Kevin.

2181
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,820
Cameron Rose, $25.

2182
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:21,000
Thank you, Cameron.

2183
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,860
Oh, we've got a new monthly donor.

2184
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:28,680
The Content Creators Accountant.

2185
01:28:29,260 --> 01:28:29,660
Oh.

2186
01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:31,420
$50 a month.

2187
01:28:31,540 --> 01:28:32,340
Ooh, thank you.

2188
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,460
I get boosts whenever there's a boost nearby.

2189
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:35,300
Yeah.

2190
01:28:36,440 --> 01:28:37,660
Thank you, Content Creators Accountant.

2191
01:28:37,660 --> 01:28:39,520
You can tell I've been working on my

2192
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:40,020
cart wall.

2193
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,940
Yeah, you've been spicing it up a little

2194
01:28:42,940 --> 01:28:43,080
bit.

2195
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:44,660
Yeah, I found all kinds of stuff.

2196
01:28:44,740 --> 01:28:46,160
Like I should add this, put this in.

2197
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,120
This is great, yeah.

2198
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,220
Oh, Martin Lindeskog, New Media, $1.

2199
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:50,520
Thank you.

2200
01:28:50,740 --> 01:28:53,480
Brendan at Podpage, $25.

2201
01:28:53,820 --> 01:28:54,280
Thank you, Brendan.

2202
01:28:54,340 --> 01:28:54,960
Very nice.

2203
01:28:55,860 --> 01:28:58,100
Oh, look, there's Oscar Mary, $200.

2204
01:28:58,900 --> 01:29:03,100
Bala, shot caller, 20 inch blades, only in

2205
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:03,600
Bala.

2206
01:29:03,740 --> 01:29:04,540
Thank you, Oscar.

2207
01:29:04,780 --> 01:29:06,660
And the boys over there at Fountain.

2208
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,700
Fountain app and hosting.

2209
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,640
There's no girls at Fountain, right?

2210
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:11,100
No, no, no.

2211
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:11,440
It's just a boys club.

2212
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:12,160
No, that's complete.

2213
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,000
The girl suckers on the door with the

2214
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:14,500
S backwards.

2215
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:16,040
Go away.

2216
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,240
Joseph Mraka, $5.

2217
01:29:19,740 --> 01:29:21,640
Podverse, that's Mitch and Creon.

2218
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:25,640
And Kyle, his brother, $50.

2219
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,280
Thank you, beautiful.

2220
01:29:28,300 --> 01:29:29,280
Lauren Ball.

2221
01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:30,000
Hey, Lauren.

2222
01:29:30,420 --> 01:29:32,780
$24.20 as usual.

2223
01:29:32,980 --> 01:29:34,020
Thank you, Lauren, appreciate it.

2224
01:29:35,380 --> 01:29:37,120
Christopher Harbarick, $10.

2225
01:29:37,540 --> 01:29:39,080
Hey, Christopher, thank you for that.

2226
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,360
Mitch coming in solo with a $10.

2227
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:42,140
Nice.

2228
01:29:42,860 --> 01:29:43,900
Boost, boost, boost.

2229
01:29:44,700 --> 01:29:46,140
Oh, Harry.

2230
01:29:46,420 --> 01:29:48,580
Okay, we got a one-off, $50 from

2231
01:29:48,580 --> 01:29:50,120
Harry at Lower Street.

2232
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,020
That's it, Harry at Lower Street.

2233
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:53,980
Lower Street.

2234
01:29:54,020 --> 01:29:54,400
Instagram.

2235
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:55,720
In the house, thank you.

2236
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,980
And he says, I've started using the API.

2237
01:29:57,980 --> 01:29:58,880
Thank you for it.

2238
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,480
You deserve some reward for creating something great

2239
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:01,920
for free.

2240
01:30:01,980 --> 01:30:03,600
It's called value for value.

2241
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,980
Welcome to the party, brother.

2242
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:06,740
Thank you, Harry, appreciate it.

2243
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:07,120
Value for value, yes.

2244
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:09,560
Terry Keller, $5.

2245
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,460
Chris Cowan, $5.

2246
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:13,880
Thank you, Chris.

2247
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,620
Thank you, Terry.

2248
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:17,040
Silicon Florist, $10.

2249
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,200
Silicon Florist.

2250
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:20,360
I love these names.

2251
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:22,080
These are good names, good names.

2252
01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:24,880
Paul Saltzman, guess how much?

2253
01:30:25,220 --> 01:30:27,920
$22.22. Always $22.22. Yeah, it's actually

2254
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,880
a Roe of Ducks is what he brings.

2255
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,120
Damon Kasejak, $15.

2256
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:37,380
Derek J.

2257
01:30:37,580 --> 01:30:39,600
Visker, the best name in podcasting, $21.

2258
01:30:40,780 --> 01:30:43,880
And we've got one Boostergram that I can

2259
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:44,400
find.

2260
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,360
Wait, that's the delimiter, but I think I

2261
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,140
see a problem here.

2262
01:30:50,500 --> 01:30:51,880
Well, let me see what I see.

2263
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,980
I see from Castamatic, 333 from Chad F,

2264
01:30:55,980 --> 01:30:58,880
and that's an NWC test.

2265
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:00,240
Okay.

2266
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:01,560
Network Wallet Connect.

2267
01:31:02,300 --> 01:31:04,300
And then I see, yes.

2268
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,940
And then I see- Did you see

2269
01:31:06,940 --> 01:31:07,660
one from CELOS?

2270
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,240
CELOS.

2271
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,600
Let me do a little search.

2272
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,900
He said, okay, so my fountain didn't even

2273
01:31:16,900 --> 01:31:17,400
go through.

2274
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,880
This is January 30th.

2275
01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:21,360
Yeah.

2276
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,580
Test from True Fans.

2277
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:26,740
And he had one from Fountain.

2278
01:31:27,380 --> 01:31:28,000
Yes, Fountain.

2279
01:31:29,180 --> 01:31:32,560
This is, no, this is an old one.

2280
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:33,700
That's very old.

2281
01:31:33,700 --> 01:31:34,820
I'm going to have to use Runway.

2282
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:35,840
We're missing Boost.

2283
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:37,340
I'm telling you, Runway's the way to go,

2284
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:37,600
baby.

2285
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:38,280
It's the way to go.

2286
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:41,620
All right, I'm going to start using Runway.

2287
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:47,020
Eric PP, he could add Runway to, or

2288
01:31:47,020 --> 01:31:49,240
the- Yeah, add it to Helipad.

2289
01:31:49,540 --> 01:31:50,300
To Helipad, yeah.

2290
01:31:50,300 --> 01:31:51,580
Yeah, just a new page.

2291
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:53,560
And an extra setting.

2292
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,460
Yeah, that's it.

2293
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:56,200
An extra vibe.

2294
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,020
Just five minutes of vibe coding.

2295
01:31:58,140 --> 01:31:59,700
Just vibe code it, baby, vibe code it.

2296
01:31:59,980 --> 01:32:01,540
But we do have a delimiter, though.

2297
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:01,940
Yes.

2298
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,900
23,000 sats from Comicstrip Blogger.

2299
01:32:05,940 --> 01:32:06,860
Nice, thank you.

2300
01:32:07,420 --> 01:32:11,020
Through Fountain, he says, how do you, Dave

2301
01:32:11,020 --> 01:32:11,280
and Adam?

2302
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,260
Today, I'd like to recommend a Plastic Fantastic

2303
01:32:14,260 --> 01:32:19,540
podcast called Sans Stormcast, a cybersecurity podcast that

2304
01:32:19,540 --> 01:32:20,860
Dave is listening to himself.

2305
01:32:21,480 --> 01:32:23,540
It's a short and published on Workday.

2306
01:32:24,180 --> 01:32:27,300
Dave, please elaborate why it's worth subscribing to.

2307
01:32:27,820 --> 01:32:29,360
Aha, aha, I like it.

2308
01:32:29,820 --> 01:32:32,460
Just search for Sans Stormcast in your podcasting

2309
01:32:32,460 --> 01:32:33,200
2.0 apps.

2310
01:32:33,460 --> 01:32:36,060
Yo, CSP, AI Arch Wizard.

2311
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,040
He is the AI Arch Wizard.

2312
01:32:38,540 --> 01:32:41,620
And Justin, 3333 from Eric PP.

2313
01:32:42,180 --> 01:32:43,080
Oh, thank you.

2314
01:32:43,420 --> 01:32:44,800
Coming in from CurioCaster.

2315
01:32:45,460 --> 01:32:50,620
So next week, I don't think I can

2316
01:32:50,620 --> 01:32:52,520
do the board meeting because I'll be traveling

2317
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,700
back from Nashville from the NRB.

2318
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:57,400
NERB.

2319
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:58,680
The NERB, yes.

2320
01:32:58,900 --> 01:33:01,740
The National Religious Broadcasters Conference where I'll be

2321
01:33:01,740 --> 01:33:03,860
speaking about the future of podcasting.

2322
01:33:04,940 --> 01:33:06,440
And you know what we ought to do

2323
01:33:06,440 --> 01:33:09,100
is we ought to have Gordon come in

2324
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:10,520
the boardroom at some point.

2325
01:33:10,580 --> 01:33:12,100
Well, he's going to be there with me.

2326
01:33:12,860 --> 01:33:13,660
But yes.

2327
01:33:13,820 --> 01:33:15,580
I mean, like sometime after NRB.

2328
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,480
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

2329
01:33:17,820 --> 01:33:20,120
He, you know, I know he's a listener.

2330
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,020
And he's always like, I don't know what

2331
01:33:23,020 --> 01:33:23,980
you guys are talking about.

2332
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:26,060
Well, we don't either.

2333
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:27,860
That's the beauty of it.

2334
01:33:28,980 --> 01:33:30,260
That's the beauty of it.

2335
01:33:30,860 --> 01:33:32,160
All right, boardroom.

2336
01:33:32,260 --> 01:33:33,800
Thank you all very much for being here.

2337
01:33:34,440 --> 01:33:35,620
Dave, good to talk to you.

2338
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,780
I miss, honestly, I miss talking to you

2339
01:33:37,780 --> 01:33:38,340
last week.

2340
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:39,560
I do too, brother.

2341
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,600
Because we don't really get to speak except

2342
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:43,580
during these meetings.

2343
01:33:43,740 --> 01:33:45,780
And this is what we talk about anyway

2344
01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:48,580
because we are all about podcasting, no matter

2345
01:33:48,580 --> 01:33:48,880
what.

2346
01:33:48,940 --> 01:33:50,420
It's always about podcasting.

2347
01:33:50,420 --> 01:33:51,340
All right, everybody.

2348
01:33:51,420 --> 01:33:53,400
Have yourselves a great weekend.

2349
01:33:53,660 --> 01:33:55,060
And we'll be back in two weeks, but

2350
01:33:55,060 --> 01:33:57,100
I'm sure we'll see each other on podcastindex

2351
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,580
.social. Until then, we'll see you soon.

2352
01:33:59,680 --> 01:33:59,980
Bye-bye.

2353
01:34:01,300 --> 01:34:01,680
Bye.

2354
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:02,200
Bye.

2355
01:34:16,150 --> 01:34:16,530
Bye.

2356
01:34:20,270 --> 01:34:20,650
Bye.

2357
01:34:20,650 --> 01:34:24,010
Visit podcastindex.org for more information.

2358
01:34:24,370 --> 01:34:25,950
Go podcasting!

2359
01:34:27,050 --> 01:34:28,510
Busted a grumpy.