webinar. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Thursday, September
21 2017. This is your award winning get more nation media
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this is no agenda under attack
and at war with Russia's dude named Boris and coming to you
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Capitol Thrones star state in the studio in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where they're working on the
wires outside my house, and John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.
So if you disappear all of a sudden we know what's going on.
Yeah, the wires, string and something new.
Hey, yeah. Hey, John Claude, how you doing? Okay, what's up? Not
too much. You got this little show we're doing.
So we have the Miss America Pageant. We can
both Whoa, do you could tease that maybe we shouldn't
start with Hillary. She was on Colbert. Yes.
Yes. You know, I'm so happy because I got one clip that you
don't have. And that's all I got from that to interview. So let's
do that. And I'll play my clip at the end. How does that sound?
Let you play your clip at the beginning. Now it makes more
sense when it's at the end.
Not really, that at least not to me. But let's go with Hillary.
So Hillary is on Colbert, and they're just as like two. You
know, two pigs rolling in mud. They just love each other.
By the way, I thought it was a boring interview. It was just
boring to me.
Did you eat? Did you get anything? I'm not gonna disagree
with that. I do have an ISO of Hillary's fake laugh.
Yeah, that's the one.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, it's so fake as ridiculous. But that's it's very
similar to the ones that they compiled to put on the Hillary
pan.
Yes, which you've lost or you have it? I have it I got
Alright, let's get to the clip.
So let's start with Hillary they they do? I gotta heal Rickover.
Let's hear it. Let's get to the basic clip. This is the one
where the reason for the book The reason for Colbert show. The
reason for bashing Trump and everything in between? Is this
hill on Colbert get out to vote this is to get keep everything
in the you know, in the sunlight. pay a lot of
attention. So when 2018 comes along, we can get some Democrats
in question the legitimacy
of the election of the President. Question is, Mike, my
question is I mean, I have these fantasies. But my question is,
seriously, my question is, what then there is no constitutional
mechanism to question the election. Our elections are
messy. That's right. This is just what happened. So as
I say in the book, nobody's talking about contesting the
election, including me. But I do think no, because there is no
mechanism.
This is someone who I love
the Oh, come on, oh, you can't contested. Oh, this is a great
audience. It is so representative of the
alternative universe.
But I do think no, because there is no mechanism.
This is someone who believes in the Constitution, unlike the guy
who got the job.
There is no mechanism. But I think legitimacy is rooted in
what comes out of these investigations. Because if there
is evidence of coordination, communication, whatever it might
be, I think millions of Americans are going to say,
well, those raise questions about legitimacy now, what do
you do with those questions besides ask them, what you do is
mobilized politically to express your will and your rejection of
that kind of Russian involvement and coordination at the ballot
box? I mean, that is where we settle our political
differences, and that's where it should be.
I agree. Okay.
Yeah. Go ahead and vote for Democrats.
Yeah, that's that's the message. Yes.
I agree. Not too much to it. Other than that, but it's I
apparently the audience's don't seem to understand the
simplicity of it. And they bitched and moaned so we have so
she went off on the North Korea thing she went off on Putin and
let's see if I I thought I had to Putin is on here and you
got there's two pollutants wouldn't too long, too long.
Yeah, wishes are another one on here. No, I
don't think I have another oh,
let's go with Putin too long.
What Putin strategy is He really doesn't like democracy. He
thinks it's an inconvenient, messy process. And he doesn't
like us and He wants when
I heard this, it was to me this is exactly what people like. My
uncle Don believe. They truly believe that this is what this
guy thinks. And they usually say he was, you know, a KGB guy who
hated seeing his empire go down, and he vowed that he will
destroy the evil capitalist Americans. It's the same story.
And he doesn't like us. And He wants us Yeah, yeah.
Let's say he's a CIA CIA scenario.
Yes.
He doesn't like us and he wants to destabilize our country. So
doubt about our democracy. I mean, these latest revelations
where you had Russians pretending to be
she says, You listen destabilize our country. So doubt, to sow
sow, sow, as in sowing sow doubt, yeah, to sowing sowing
seeds. I can't say that word. So So isn't it? So it's like in
between. So to sow to sow doubt, yes. Which, which is easily
done. If you put it on face bag ads,
and Russians pretending to be Americans. We have fake
Americans with fake news and fake stories.
I need that T shirt. Fake American. That's a great t
shirt, no agenda show fake American
and fake demonstrations. That wasn't just because he's bored
and has nothing to do he wants to limit what
fake demonstrations is he talking
about? Okay, here's the this is a we didn't talk about this on
the show. But and it never really. It came out of kind of
comes and goes but during the suppose it Facebook $100,000 ad
campaign?
Oh, yes, they did Facebook events.
They did a bunch of events. That never happened because they're
never meant to happen. It's just meant to. I think, by the way,
this is not a bad idea. They said, Oh, we're having a huge,
huge meeting. Everybody's turning out for this stop to
Hillary, you know, yeah. Convention. You know, Jenny had
a time and date with Hillary meet up his way. You mean? Yeah,
well, or whatever, whatever they call it. And it was a it was
fake. Because they're No, no one. Just to make it seem as
though stuff was happening.
Boy, man, we nailed it that the Facebook ads are becoming a real
problem for them. This is really, it keeps coming back to
the one example that they have of hacking the election. And
that is the Facebook ads, you had a number of them in the
newsletter. I wouldn't even look at those. They're too busy.
This, you know, that would not catch my eye on a page. Irish,
they're not good at all.
didn't convince me of anything. I mean, I'm not sure it may be I
could see somewhere. They do vote
for Hillary. I boom. I wasn't
affected by Facebook yesterday. I don't use Facebook. But damn,
I would, I think it was to just reassure it didn't change
anybody's mind. There's no doubt about that, in my mind, it just
take and they will probably targeting people that were
borderline Trump voters or Trump voters to begin with
whoever it was, but you know, the thing that in the lexicon
now, I'm not even clipping in anymore. You hear people say on
television, when Russia hacked the election, and that is just
accepted. That term is now accepted. They hacked the
election, whatever it means is da da, I
think you're right can see and fake Americans with fake news
and fake stories and fake demonstrations. That wasn't just
because he's bored and has nothing to do. He wants to
undermine how we see each other how we respect each other how we
support our institutions and our society. So
the obvious question from Cobra would be well, how did they do
that? Because I did their mascot. I think
that they believe they had a good outing in 2016. And I think
they will be back in 2018 and 2020. Unless we
know you have mentioned stop the cake. Okay. That he that Putin
doesn't like democracy and he doesn't like America. This part
of the speculation is that he specifically doesn't like you.
Do you think this was personal in a certain way?
I think it was mostly about the role I played as Secretary of
State, which he did morphin to a grudge against me because I
would say things like, you know, the Russian people deserve free
and fair elections. They deserve to have a democracy
questioning legitimacy of his election in 2011.
The parliamentary election,
didn't we didn't we mess with that particular election? Isn't
that the one that we had all the NGOs kicked out?
We had the NGOs in there. We had protests in the streets we
organized Yeah, So we've we've already mentioned the elections,
but he never mentioned what her involvement was. He likes his
gig.
That's right. And so our intelligence community and
others have said that he did have a personal grudge against
me. You know, I don't take it personally, I think it's part of
his worldview, which is all tied up with his anger, his
disappointment in the collapse of the Soviet Union. And his
feeling that we're his number one rival, he wants to really
undermine the European American Alliance. And so I see it as you
know, I was doing my job, I was honored to do my job to stand up
and speak out on behalf of American values and our
democracy. And partly because I'm a woman.
Yeah. And then she went into that whole thing about the polar
bears, and he's manspreading. I've heard all these stories
before there was nothing new. That's what
I have that wisdom. I do have demands for anything good. Which
is interesting, because it's a deconstruction point. Where is
it?
I don't know. Oh, I see it. Yes. I got it here.
All right. No, I was sorry. I will. I will listen to this
carefully. And then I'm going to show you that was one of these
little tricks, that same kind of trick that CBS bulls, the same
kind of trick that ABC pulls. This is a beauty
because I'm a woman, which does seem to get him a bit agitated.
i And he actually ascended.
Did he ever say anything to you? Personally, that demonstrated
his
well, he demonstrated, as I write in the book, you know,
there's an expression. We certainly know it in New York
called manspreading. And every time I met with him, it would be
okay, the whole deal. And so I go to meetings with them. One in
particular, we were in his dacha outside of Moscow, and the press
comes in, and he just borates America about one of the many
things that annoys him about us. And then the press leaves, and
I've got four or five things we're trying to deal with him
and Russia on. And I always came to my meetings with him trying
to find something that I could actually engage him about. So we
went through, you know, the economy and human rights and all
these other things that are critically important. And he
was, you know, like the, as President Obama once said, like
the board guy in the back of the room, he couldn't care less.
Then I said, you know, I am really pleased to hear that you
care about wildlife conservation, and that you are
trying to save species in Russia, like Siberian tigers and
polar bears. Then he came along. And then we had an interesting
conversation. So
I wrestled polar bears. I wrestled.
No, he, he said to me, so he said, Come with me. He takes me
down the stairs, down this corridor into the door, all of
his security guys are jumping up because we weren't expected into
this inner sanctum with this huge desk. And the biggest map
of Russia, I think exists. And he started telling me, he's
going here to tag polar bears. And then he says to me, would
your husband like to come? I said, Well, you know, I'll ask
him, but if he's busy, I'll go. Take a little
break. I heard that story before from her.
Well, here's what here's what I want to talk about with that
particular anecdote. She starts off with manspreading. Yeah,
he's and she's gonna give us some examples. She never she
did. She said, then we went to the DACA. And we looked at the
map, and there's this thing with polar bears. And they invited my
husband. She never she has a bunch of examples of her with
him. Where's the manspreading?
Well, she says that when that he was manspreading, when she was
sitting there with him,
she says, yes, at the beginning that she said, let me give you
an example. And then she's gonna tell this long story. She has
nothing to do with anything
now. But I think that it was visual in that case where she
said he watched it. You know what the problem is? Here's her
basic problem. If you want to engage guy like that. What does
he talk about? Like? What was her? Oh, I'll talk to him about
wildlife. No, no, you want to engage the guy. You gotta have.
I mean, that's what you want to talk about.
Well, she says in one of her things that he or in fact, I
think it was in that clip. He doesn't want to talk about
women. He hates women.
Know that she's a woman and that was a problem because she's a
woman in power. That's where
it is where she throws this little ditty in here. This is
the listen to this. Listen to carefully listen. This is a very
short Yeah, I got it. I
got it. I heard this too, as clearly
as I can. I feel like I'm a bit of a, you know, Paul Revere I'm
trying to sound the alarm about this.
Yeah, I thought that was cute. And I was wondering if there was
something behind it. Other than
she was being she This was her. Like, did you know somebody
wrote this for? Don't Don't say, Paul. I don't want to be Paul
Revere. St. Paul Revere. Hey, I hate to mention this too. There
is no buddy named Paul Revere. That sounded the alarm. So you
want to be like her?
You know what? Okay, you have one more clip. I'm gonna kind of
play my clip.
Well, I've got two clips actually. But I could play get
the gist her on North Korea. All right. It's kind of interesting.
And then they had the Clinton Clinton one. But what Russia
one, but I don't think this is important. Let's play the Dodge
on North Korea,
who happened to see the President's speech at the UN
today?
I saw parts of it. Yeah. What did you make of it? I thought it
was very dark this
before she even goes into it. When I heard her say this. I
thought wow, you're just pulling out the script from the from the
last time he did a speech where and that was a whole mean, was
this dark? It's so dark. I remembered well, so she she
clearly didn't watch the speech? Because it wasn't
that make any sense to you know,
do you happen to see the President's speech at the UN
today?
I saw parts of it. Yeah. What did you What did you make? Very
parts of it clips. Yeah, that's a good point. I saw parts of it.
How hard is it? It was dark, even though I saw parts of it
then could catch John a part of it?
Yeah. What did you What did you make of it? I
thought it was very dark. Dangerous.
I'll bet you she actually did not watch like, she just gets
physically ill from watching him. But I really think that
that's going on, I
wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's true. Otherwise, she she
actually got physically ill from watching him. It would not
surprise me.
And she's lying. She's clearly lying. And she won't you say oh,
yeah, parts of it. I do that all the time. Yeah, I saw that
part's
not the kind of message that the leader of the greatest nation in
the world should be delivering?
Not if you're the no borders, no nations group? No, you are.
We didn't see it either. You are both
required to stand up for the values of what we believe in
democracy and opportunity, as a way to demonstrate, clearly the
United States remains the beacon that we want it to be. While of
course, when you face dangerous situations, like what is
happening in North Korea. To make it clear, your first
approach should always be diplomatic. What I'd hoped the
President would have said, was something along the lines of You
know, we view this as dangerous to our allies to the region and
even to our country. We call on all nations to work with us to
try to end the threat posed.
Didn't he do that with not one but two United Nations?
Unanimous resolutions? Wasn't that exactly what he did?
I'm not sure but maybe by Kim Jong Un, and not call him Rocket
Man, the old Elton John song. Well, thanks. You're a disc
jockey. Hello, John. Now you're sure man, the old Elton John
song. But to say clearly, we will not tolerate any attacks on
our friends or ourselves. But you should lead with diplomacy,
you should lead with the commitment to trying to avoid
conflict however you can.
Yeah, so what really struck me about this whole thing? Let's
have something to say about this. But
yeah, I think we should mention that. What did she do when she
was Secretary of State? Diplomacy wise when it came to
North Korea? That's what called bears follow up should have
been.
Yeah, if it wasn't a blow job instead of a big
game about this and that but what what did she do when she
actually was in nothing office to do something with North Korea
kick my
uncle Don out is what they did. We don't want to talk to that
guy. Stupid idiot. What are they? What does he know about
North Korea? He was in and out in 20 minutes. The thing that
bothered me the most, and it started before she even came on.
I could not believe this audience. And you're already
hearing them like just going crazy over stuff. But I felt
like we've turned a corner in the alternate universe that may
be irreversible when you hear this. Oh, and this is huge. This
is huge. This is from his monologue.
We also just learned that the government wiretapped former
Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, both before and after
the election. This means
What is happening? People are cheering on wiretapping of
citizens
more or less illegal wiretapping forget even
legal or illegal. They are cheering it on even called bears
embarrassed about this lesson. Sure, absolutely.
You applaud until they wiretapping
you. This means
I don't understand what you're talking about. They only hear
wiretapping evil people. Stupid, stupid, stupid slaves. Very sad
to hear that.
Yeah, well, I missed that part. So you got me on that one.
Yeah, well, that was what it was. That was
That is pathetic
opening monologue. We're cheering on wiretapping, which
is just that's just showed people that don't understand.
They don't know what the Constitution is. They don't
understand anything anymore.
That's because they're specifically not taught anything
in school regarding the Constitution or what this
country is about. Yeah,
I agree with you there. Sadly. Of course, Colbert also hosted
the Emmy Awards. The lowest rated ever
Well, lowest rated for the same audience as last time
he wants to say, I have to say I watched the whole thing. I
didn't mind the whole show. It really didn't bother me that
much. I laughed. You know, some of some of the jokes were funny.
I was to just blown away by Jane Fonda's new facelift to even
consider thinking about what Lily Tomlin was saying, holy
crap that she looks 25.
Yeah, and she's a James Bond.
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and it does it is the banks I know a little bit about about
plastic surgery. See my first wife. And she has to have those
bangs. Otherwise, it would look like she's really surprised.
Like, huh, so they have to cover that up a little bit. But
unbelievable work that way. Yeah. Like that was Hollywood to
me. Wow. Fantastic. And Colbert, Colbert, when kind of with the
I'm going to slam all those celebrate ease. And that always
works. It always works when you make fun, you know, self
deprecating about Hollywood about yourself. And I thought
that was reasonable. The reason for the low ratings I think is
not one you know, everyone, because no one wants to watch
elites rattle their pearls. That's I don't think that's the
problem. I think. I think the problem is a good line, though.
Yeah. The problem is, look w