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Hello, Hello, it's me, it's me.
Adam curry.

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John C. Dvorak has

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Thursday January 19 2017. And
this is your award winning give

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on Asian media assassination
Episode Eight Niner six this is

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no agenda, deconstructing hats
and meet and broadcasting live

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from the darkest corners of the
United care in downtown Austin

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Tejas, FEMA return six occasion
looking forward in the morning

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where a drought that we're

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experiencing that was going to
take 10 years to disappear seems

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to have disappeared I'm Jhansi

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Raglan buzzkill

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Wait a minute. You're telling me
the drought is over.

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Looks like we're getting pounded
here.

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Oh pounded is certainly Jerry
Brown. You don't mean pounded?

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Oh, you got slammed.

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botulin half of the shingles on
my roof have blown off last

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night. Oh,

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really? Oh, man.

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I'm waiting for them to fall
down and crush some of the stuff

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in my backyard. Actually,

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actually half of them or just

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Lots. Lots.

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For those listening on the
stream. Thank you for hanging in

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there starting a little bit
late. Some technical

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difficulties, but these will be
discussed in tech news today.

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Actual tech news about some
technological issues. Yeah.

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Well, we are over clipped today.
It's obvious.

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I don't have that many.

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Yeah. And you kind of do.

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I don't have three pages.

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The. So of course, we have the
inauguration tomorrow. And it's

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interesting that we have the
show today. A lot of people

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won't hear this until tomorrow,
I think. But I'm pretty sure

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everything's going to be okay.
With the inauguration because

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crazy things only happen on show
days. It doesn't happen on an

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off show day. So

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yes. It should be a fantastic
observation. It should

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be okay. Yeah. But the
narrative, if that's what you

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want to call it, that the
certainly the mainstream media

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here in the United States of
Gitmo nation has been pushing is

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a legitimate, a legitimate and
yes, we're already talking

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impeachment of you. I'm sure you
find it. I actually I got a

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number of these things.

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I don't have any of the
impeachment clips because those

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are stupid. Yeah, the

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well, the impeachment stuff.
Kind of all flows out of

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shoeless, Shoeless Joe Jackson
there. What's his name? John

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John Lewis, John Lewis, Shoeless
Joe Jackson, exactly. Who has

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come out and has called the
president elect a illegitimate

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candidate, and people taking
this very seriously because, of

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course, he is a very serious
guy. You know, he was in the he

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was in Selma. And he, he was a

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vacation enough?

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Yeah. Actually, maybe I'll start
with this. Because let me see.

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Here. Let me get the the
impeachment thing. That's

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probably the best place to
start. So we have where are we?

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Here we go. This is Chris
Matthews on MSNBC. And he is who

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does he talking to hear me say?
Well, let's talk about where

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that leads. Oh, yes, this is
Maxine Waters. Now, but when you

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hear her another fine example of
parallel universes, you know, I

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love them. But

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let's talk about where that
leads to. Congresswoman, you've

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raised a good point here. I
guess for you. It's important if

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we find out that somebody on
behalf of Donald Trump was on

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the phone or an email relations
with somebody in Russia or the

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emergency of the ambassador to
America from Russia, and there

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was some sort of as you call it,
collusion, then what does that

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make Trump subject to
impeachment? What do you mean by

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non legitimate? Just generally
what you mean by the term? Well,

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there was a connection, there
was collusion your term?

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Well, here's what I'm trying to
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Donald Trump are his advocates
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devise strategy. If they are the
ones who came up with crooked

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Hillary, if they're the ones who
came up with she's ill,

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something's wrong with her
energy. And the way that he

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basically, you know, described
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that is something that would put
the question squarely on the

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table, whether or not he should
be impeached. Is this

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is this woman insane? That is
insane. So if Hillary Clinton

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had won, then Donald Trump could
have gone for the Republicans

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could have gone for impeachment
because they called Trump

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Hitler. I mean, it she for real.
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representative of she's actually

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voted in just she's, she's
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chuck, chuck chip, Chuck Todd of
MSNBC, spoke directly to

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shoeless John Lewis, about this
issue. Can you imagine ever

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sharing a stage with Donald
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Donald Trump came to you and
said, You know, I want

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forgiveness here. I want your
trust or I want your you know,

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once you take them to Selma,

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well, the old I go into Selma,
like President Bush, President

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Clinton, President Obama, maybe
he would learn something, maybe

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he would get religion. So you
would bring him? He would? You

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would? You wouldn't do that for
him? If he asked. I would not

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invite him to them. You wouldn't
invite him. But if he asked to

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come, would you let him? I
wouldn't try to do anything to

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prevent him from coming. If he's

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not a legitimately elected
president, your mind. There are

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tools that Congress has tools.
Do you think Congress should use

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those tools? You think that oh,
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believe that

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the NDP talking about McCain?

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I'm sorry? No, he's talking
about impeachment as a tool. Oh,

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thought he was talking about
McCain and Lindsey. No, I said,

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there are two tools. Do you
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Do you think that oh, are you
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the impeachment process should
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Well, I truly believe that we
should find out what happened

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and how it happened. John McCain
wants a special committee will

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select committee. Senator
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yeah, hell freezes over. We got
John Lewis agreeing with John

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McCain. Now I have a three part
short clips from former Black

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Panther Mason Weaver. Are you
familiar with Mason Weaver? Is

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he really? Ever heard of him?
Okay. Well, he was on with

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Tucker Carlson. And he has a lot
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some of it certainly in the
second clip, we have discussed

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many times on this program. But
he has a very different view of

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who John Lewis really is now. He
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you know, as the Civil Rights
guru, correct? No. He is.

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Everyone's talking about how you
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yet

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he's the anointed one. You can't
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annoying beyond reproach. Err.
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beyond reproach, except for the
Black Panthers, who also

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happened to be in, in a lot of
those protests with John Lewis

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here is former Black Panther
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in the early 70s. And late 60s,
we were demonstrating and

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protesting for the right to
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America who are not
demonstrating to be taken care

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of better. Now, Congressman
Lewis, he must foster a Pettus

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bridge. And they beat him and
ran over him. But those were

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Democrats. It was Democrat
George Wallace students cool

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house yard. It was Democrats,
bull Connor's that oppress folks

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in the Democrats had voted for
the litmus test called the

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Lizzie test. And the poll tax he
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after they beat us behind on
that bridge, and ran over him

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and stomped him on the ground,
he got up and turn and joined

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them. He joined the oppressors
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where he was now sitting and
presiding over the destruction

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of the black community to
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Destruction of the black woman
with drugs against he has

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presided over the worst school
system in a world where black

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people are learning only began
prep. I'm outraged at that the

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demonstration that he had early
in his life has turned to a

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subrogation of his rights and
authority anti black leader.

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Of course, neither you nor I
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we would be excoriated if we and
we have no knowledge of what

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This is interesting. This clip
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meme that's going around and I
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don't have clips because I
didn't catch into just play this

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one. I realize it's out there we
can look for it. This to paint

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the Democrats as unchanged ah,
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pre Civil War witness they were
the ones that were for slavery.

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They're the ones around the
southern the plantation owners

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are the ones who have caused a
ruckus until the Republicans

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came along to replace the Whigs
as the ones who eventually ended

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up freeing the slaves. The
Democrats are one of the guys,

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Mark, Mark Levin and Mark Levin.
When I was driving her out

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obviously, if you were getting
Mark Levin was on a unbelievably

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interesting rant that had been
had been prepared and citing

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every Democrat anomaly and
including the including

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rewriting the idea of the
Southern strategy where Nixon

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and and the Republicans took
over the South using various

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kind of hidden meanings to
double entendres and whatever to

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to get the black haters. Well,
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we've, we, of course, have
discussed many times that there

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was this switch and we've traced
some of that back to Archie

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Bunker. And how, you know, the,
the white collar, grouchy,

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douchebag racists misogynist guy
who was sitting in his armchair

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yelling at the TV was a
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instead of a democratic

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Well, instead of a Democrat,
which he should have been.

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Archie Bunker should have been a
Democrat by all accounts witness

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clip to

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so when you say he's presided
over Are you speaking of his

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congressional district,

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not just his congressional
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communist black caucus that has
every defeat they own and

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control is a ghetto hellhole is
a place that no one wants to go

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to their control of every inner
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city police aiming and it's any
jail. They have produced nothing

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but drugs and misery, black
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housing, they reduce their
presided over the destruction of

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black people, they should be
ashamed of themselves. And I

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don't understand why any black
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Well, John Lewis, bless his
heart, you know, it took courage

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to do what he did in life. But
what he has done now he has he

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has turned himself to his enemy.
Lucky, like a little girl being

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beaten by daddy and George
daddy, like an abused woman been

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by her but he joins the husband.
He has joined the enemy he has

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joined the oppressor and what he
should do if you are a real man,

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John Lewis of your real, real
hero, you stand up tomorrow

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morning, and you look at other
people and you apologize, you

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have lasted two decades of hell
you you should apologize that

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you made a mistake, saying he
tried to work with them. But the

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Democratic Party has always been
the party of abuse. Always been

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a part of the clan, the party
with the war to keep slaves. The

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party has always been the
destruction of black people. Mr.

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Lewis, you have presided over
the destruction of black America

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and you owe us an apology.

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I wish this guy wouldn't hold
back, you know, much better. I

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love that. So

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what is this guy's name? Again,
his name

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is Mason Weaver. And I while
you're looking at up here's

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research. Yeah, here's, here's a
here's a wrap up clip

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he's more concerned about about
Trump being the illegitimate

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president. But John Lewis is the
illegitimate congressman, I've

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seen that he has gotten rich, as
people have gotten poor. The

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black caucus has gotten more
power and influence. And the

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black people that preside over
has gotten poor, more drugs,

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more gains, less business, less
homeownership, less education,

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more jail, more drugs, the worst
black people are the poor we are

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the stronger and stronger the
Congressional Black Caucus is

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the more powerful democratic
are, the worse off black people

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are? So I'm just saying I'm a
citizen of America. Looking

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around my country. I'm saying
that every place you find black

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people and Democrats, you will
find poverty, you find disgrace,

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you find a delegation, you find
no job to find a place that is

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good only in the unknowable.
That's his legacy. All right.

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Good one.

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And did you find out more about
him? No, no, I

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still look at now. Okay. He's
got a Twitter account. Let's go

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look at

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that. I thought that was uh, you
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Democratic Party and that way
and their history, and maybe the

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history will now be discussed a
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it's coming to the forefront on
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but anywhere else. In fact, I've
noticed a lot in this in this

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rift in this split of the
universe. The most apparent and

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really the the most disturbing
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black Americans, then starting

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to it's actually very
entertaining. Yeah, you see a

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lot of

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it. I have a have kind of a fun
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actually be kicked be started to
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they started the Hadron
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Once they flipped that thing
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know. I know. I'm all in on
that, you know me. So President

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Elect had but of course he's not
he's nominated, were appointed

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Ben Carson as the Housing and
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Brandon, Ben's been having a
tough time getting confirmed. If

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you haven't seen it, the clips
are too boring to play with. If

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you haven't seen it, as you
know, he's definitely picking on

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him a little bit. And as a part
of Carson doing that, a Trump

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also invited Steve Harvey, the
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What I think a lot of people
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is that he has he's a huge
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foundation with his wife. I
looked at the 990. And they did

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in 2014. I haven't seen 2015 and
2016 yet did two and a half

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million dollars and it's all
from from you know, reasonably

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mediocre donations. But he gets
from BT and you get from Coca

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Cola and so you know, there's
it's not like, total douchebag

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money. No, it's

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not like the way Sharpton does
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have a charging clip too. He
also was homeless for three

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years. And he's been very, very
instrumental in working

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certainly with kids in the inner
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general. The guy you know, yeah,
he's a game show host but do you

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think this is I knew this I
thought it was pretty well known

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about him. Apparently on CNN,
they don't. And here we go. Now

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there's there's four people in
this segment. Three of them are

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black, the one that's white
doesn't even talk that is the,

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the lawyer Girl What's her name?
Kaylee, Kaylee McEnany. We have

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Mark Lamont Hill. And just
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this clip. I congratulate you.
Thank you. I've heard about this

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clip, Steve, not from not about
the clip that you just made. But

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I've heard about what you're
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what it is because the right
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ballistic over this.

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Well, I hope it's the I don't
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talking about. But I'm sure it
is. Here we Carvey

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went to Trump Tower. It's taking
a lot of backlash for meeting

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with the president elect. What
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of this controversy? My
disagreement is the way in which

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he's being used by folk like
Donald Trump again, intention is

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just to have a seat at the
table. But when you're at the

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table, you should have experts
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who can challenge the President
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Steve's there. But if I'm Steve
Harvey, I'm bringing Michelle

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Alexander. I'm bringing Cornell
West. I'm bringing Imani Perry,

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I'm bringing Eddie Glaude. I'm
bringing Michael Eric Dyson. I'm

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bringing some folk with me who
can challenge the president and

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inform the conversation.
Otherwise, you're just saying oh

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my god, because real quick
because all because they keep

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bringing up comedians and actors
and athletes to represent black

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interest is demeaning. It's
disrespectful and it's

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condescending, bring some people
up. There was some expertise

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Donald Trump don't just bring up
people to entertain mark, you

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weren't even there. You

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know what happened? Okay, okay.

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Are you disagreeing that he
broke up? Or you just weren't?

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You weren't in the room, sir.
How did you get there?

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How does that negate my point
that he brought Steve Harvey and

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then put them in front of the

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pastor Daryl Scott, Michael
Cohen. They are in the process

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of bringing all types of people
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all different backgrounds, like
we have the the member of

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diversity coalition where we
reach out to all different types

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of people.

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It was a bunch of nd negros
being dragged in front of TV.

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That's really that's really the
beauty part here. A bunch of

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mediocre negros being dragged in
front of the TV at

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Hardee's immediately, but he's
also referring to all the

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Negroes that have been dragged
there. Jim Brown, the football

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player, yeah, me everybody
respects he's also unassailable,

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mediocre. So beat the crap out
of this guy.

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Mediocre negros that's crazy
being

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dragged in front of TV as a
photo op for Donald Trump

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exploitative campaign against
black people. And you are? Are

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you going to so now you want to
name call mark?

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Let me back mark up here because
marks make an important point.

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Important point. Making an
important point. Talking black

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people are diverse, okay, and
for to only engage actors and

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comedians. And you know, reality
type folks, is not engaged in

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diversity of black people in
America. So again, I would like

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to see Donald Trump bring some
policy analysts and real people

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with some meat on the bone for
the issues to the table. Dang,

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if you do 10 seconds burgers.
What do you mean Dang, if you

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didn't do

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that, you could actually bring
qualified as an expert and he

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brought Bruce in. No, it's fine.
Yeah, how

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can that come to the Democrat
side of this debate? It has no

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problem with all these did no
nothing celebrities coming

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forward and expressing
themselves and they never

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complain about that. It's

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because of the split in the
universe. And you see completely

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different and but I think most
egregiously, is that the that

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Harvey he's quite a
philanthropist in his own right

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and he's worked a lot with inner
cities and so be his Harvey is

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one

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of those guys that just works
his butt off yeah,

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yeah

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yeah he's got more than that the
game show too he's got a talk

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show Oh, he's

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got tongues this is off white
good. Yeah. By Avi just saying

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wow man

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is mediocre Negro apparently
that is too funny Mark Lamont

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Hill is going to eat crap for
saying that he should he should

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mediocre no mark Lamont Hill
started off

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we could have no agenda T shirts
for our black listeners mediocre

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Negro it's great it'd be

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it would sell. Yeah. Mark Lamont
Hill really got his start with

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the while he was a professor
someplace he got his start with

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O'Reilly on Fox. O'Reilly would
bring him on as the counter the

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counter argument. And he was and
he's always remarkable for being

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extremely fast on his feet of
fast talker. He's actually

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slowed down a lot of fast
talker, a quick thinker and he

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was very good. Nobody can really
deal with him. And then he got

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got the idea. I think that he's
he's a celebrity. And he started

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doing he gets kind of split off
from Fox and wanted to get I

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think is at one point trying to
get his own show. And you know,

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he's really takes himself very
seriously as a as a great

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pundit. But, you know, everybody
screws up. I think it was a

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screw up.

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I think he's gonna pay for it.
For sure. For sure.

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Okay, it's like the deplorables
comment. Yeah, the remake neuron

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right. Just a bad bad idea.

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So people are already gearing up
in in DC for tomorrow's J 20.

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Which will be followed by J 21.

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Right. There will be different
movements.

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Sharpton is already there with
his what's his what's his

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foundation calling in

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the call? The actual network
from dummies? That's the one

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here is

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we have carved this much on for
non negotiable issues.

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All right, you got to pin. Yeah,
that's right. For non negotiable

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issues, voting rights, voting
rights.

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Do we already have that? So that
would that number one is checked

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off? Okay. Good to go. I'm

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just ringing the bell.

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Criminal Justice and police
reform.

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Criminal Justice. Unbelievable.
I think criminal justice reform

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is already taking place. No,
it's

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just beginning. Okay.

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equal and fair. Economic
Justice. Oh, and we have fought

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with

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equal and fair economic justice.
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don't know what economic justice
is.

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I mean, everybody has money.

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Okay, um, the justice and the
Affordable Care Act. We come to

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Washington, from all over this
country. And some of us went to

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Sanford, Florida, and stood up
for Trayvon Martin, and we go

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stand up Fred Garner, and we go
stand up for Walter Scott. And

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there's like, there's maybe 50
people standing in front of him.

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The crowd is quite small as
raining and people like,

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we go stand up for Tamir Rice.
You may switch presidents, but

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we just gonna switch legs and
keep on marching. We won't back

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down. We won't be trapped. We
won't be trapped. We won't be

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trapped.

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And the feeling that I'll make
an intake dropped and we won't

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be trumped. We won't be trapped.
I have a feeling

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that I'll play it again. It
doesn't have to hardly sounds

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like

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we won't be trapped.

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Stay trapped.

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Now he's saying trumped. We
won't be trapped. We won't be

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trapped. I have a feeling
that'll show up in the end of

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show makes one of these days.
Yeah. Huh. Now the so the J 20.

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We want it I want to talk about
in a moment. But first for the

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21st this is the big Woman's
March, which is it's kind of

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it's getting a little
complicated.

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Yeah, I believe no White's
allowed dates. Well, yeah.

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black activists are telling
white women who are also

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marching, they need to check
their privilege. So that could

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be some riffs

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to check it. There's no booth.
They will be there. There may

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be some riffs internally, the
one of the CO organizers of this

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March. That's the the Muslim
Muslim ah, as you would say in

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Europe. She was on MSNBC. Again,
just to kind of reiterate in

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this short clip January 21,

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what's the first thing you want?
Either President Trump at that

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time or the Senate or as you
were mentioning the house to do

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for all of these marchers
because you have a sense of what

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the pulse is from the marchers?

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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, first
of all, hands off the Affordable

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Care Act. We need our health
insurance hands off Planned

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Parenthood in our reproductive
right, hands off, Muslims hands

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off the undocumented. Those are
really our top messaging lines

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hands off our Native Americans
Since I'm brothers you will see

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a plethora of speakers
reflecting

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plethora is it plethora? Is that
the correct pronunciation?

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Well, I would pronounce a
plethora, plethora plethora,

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maybe acceptable I have to look
it up. It's possible he does

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multiple pronunciations for a
lot of words,

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but it kind of sounds cool
actually. plethora, plethora

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contrast.

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Sounds like a science fiction
care.

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There's a plethora of
controversies about it, you

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see a plethora of speakers
reflecting all the progressive

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and social justice issues in
this country.

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John, all the progressive and
social justice issues, every

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single one hands off, everything
says

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I'm Brother, you will see a
plethora of speakers reflecting

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all the progressive and social
justice issues in this country.

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It's again, one of the most
intersectional movements that

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you have ever seen.
intersectional movement as

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the intersectional thing again,
which means everybody's there

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and no one will agree. That's
pretty much the way I see it.

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Hello. Sorry. clip that for you.
Hello, my hits me. It's me.

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John, do it. Do it. Hello. Hold
on. Oh, I was doing right. All

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right. Ladies and gentlemen, I
present John C. Dvorak and

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Adele. Hello,

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Hello. It's me. It's me. Here I
sit on the stoop. Beautiful like

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a bee.

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Oh, beautiful. Thank you. Thank
you. That was worth 10 minutes

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of clipping that. The women of
the view my beat short clip,

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don't worry. They were all
wearing their pussy hats. Have

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you seen the pussy hats?

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God, it's wrong with these
people.

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Yeah, there's a lot a lot is
wrong. Welcome back.

456
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:54,330
So you'll notice a couple
buzzword pink hat. Yeah,

457
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:56,700
I missed that can mess up her
hair.

458
00:26:56,730 --> 00:27:01,020
But you know, Saturday, there's
this gigantic Woman's March in

459
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:06,750
Washington. And as it turns out,
it's not just Washington, it's

460
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:09,450
all over the country. So you
know,

461
00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:13,800
women there was that you're not
just you're gonna be no petite

462
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,660
women are normal size 10. It's

463
00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:19,260
all over the country. So you
know, you know, we're wearing

464
00:27:19,260 --> 00:27:23,430
pink hats and celebration of
this march of women are not

465
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:27,030
holding anybody down. And we
want you to know that we want

466
00:27:27,030 --> 00:27:30,300
you to have a great day,
whatever day you pick, and take

467
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,190
a little time to enjoy the view.

468
00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:38,100
Oh, yes. Enjoy the view. So what
has happened definitely is a lot

469
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,610
of women's organizations are
asking for money. There's just

470
00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:48,090
tons of money requests coming
in. Certainly, for the for the

471
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:54,720
the 20th of March on the 21st.
And they've got thing, it's like

472
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,430
it's what is going on in DC.
It's really, it's like just

473
00:27:59,430 --> 00:28:04,320
partying. No, seriously, because
I looked at the rundown. And you

474
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,310
see I have it here somewhere.
Yeah, here it is the rundown.

475
00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:12,420
And you know, there's all kinds
of tranny parties and dress up

476
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:15,390
parties and whoop, and we're
going crazy parties and

477
00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:18,930
outrageous dress parties and and
just to everyone's free and

478
00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:24,420
crazy. And we don't care
parties. Which Yeah, I know lots

479
00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:28,350
of people in the gay and lesbian
and transgender community. They

480
00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:31,110
love to party. They love to
dance. That's that's the way

481
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:37,260
they protest. Meanwhile, the J
20. Is the more depressed the J

482
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:43,740
20. Is sponsored 100% by the
workers. World Workers

483
00:28:43,769 --> 00:28:48,509
Party. Oh, yeah. That operates
that's the same as a answer a n

484
00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:52,319
s w e. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And a
bunch of other movement. That

485
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,699
guy that guys are in New York,
they have a lot of websites that

486
00:28:56,699 --> 00:28:56,909
are

487
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,000
he had the main, the main one is
workers.org. That's the main

488
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,390
one.

489
00:29:00,659 --> 00:29:04,949
And they are all time
socialists, that Bernie Sanders

490
00:29:04,949 --> 00:29:07,829
type socialists from the 20s and
30s.

491
00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:11,880
Yeah, they're they're really
about socialism. I mean, it's a

492
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,640
national socialist. Yeah, the
real the real deal. And they're

493
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920
the ones handing out the signs.
They're the ones that are

494
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:21,120
setting everything up. And it's
interesting though, I got a an

495
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,940
email from because I subscribe
to all these newsletters if I

496
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:28,710
can. I got an email from them
asking for money. And they find

497
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:33,090
it rather odd because they had a
GoFundMe, the goal was 10 grand.

498
00:29:33,090 --> 00:29:35,940
And as of this morning, was it
like $3,000? I'm not quite sure

499
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:38,580
why they were even asking for
that in that manner. Because

500
00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:41,760
they seem to have plenty of
money. I don't know what that

501
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,860
was. Just have no idea. Yeah, I
really, really don't.

502
00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:51,540
Something's up. Yeah. Of course.
We have some counter actions

503
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:58,470
going on. And this is this is
the bikers for Trump, who have

504
00:29:58,470 --> 00:30:02,190
taken it upon themselves to Make
sure that there can be no

505
00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:05,940
disruptions. I know some of
these guys, certainly the

506
00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:08,880
Rolling Thunder, New Jersey, or
I think is Rolling Thunder New

507
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,330
Jersey to or something like
that. Let's listen to one of the

508
00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:16,980
spokes guys for the bikers for
Trump on I think Fox. That

509
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:17,340
sounds

510
00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:19,170
like a confrontation to me,
Chris.

511
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:24,210
Well, the bikers are certainly
used to being outnumbered I'm

512
00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:26,850
sorry for this audio. That's not
me. It's just how it came in.

513
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,330
And

514
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,040
we are prepared to form a wall
of meat. But we're confident

515
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,030
that law enforced wall of
lessons and that's it, it's the

516
00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:39,900
he'll come back to that and
Chicago and an Arizona. And if

517
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,900
it's anything like it was in
Cleveland, they're going to have

518
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,810
to, they're going to have things
under control. We're

519
00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:50,880
anticipating a celebration here.
We don't anticipate any any

520
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640
problems. We have a strict code
of conduct where we don't

521
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,820
condone violence. But again, in
the event that we're needed, you

522
00:30:56,820 --> 00:30:59,640
can certainly count on the
bikers for Trump to form a wall

523
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,150
of meet

524
00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:05,640
up a wall of meat. That's an
interesting phrase. I believe

525
00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:09,360
you're going to be vastly
outnumbers, outnumbered, anti

526
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,110
Trump groups are reserving in
terms of parking spaces. I

527
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:17,280
understand they got far more
than the pro Trump people. Is

528
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,880
that accurate?

529
00:31:19,170 --> 00:31:22,500
Well, again, we're used to being
out numbered and we're very

530
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:25,920
confident we are group is full
of, you know, the backbone, the

531
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,700
biker community as the veteran.
And so these are guys that are

532
00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:33,750
really used to backing down but
you certainly won't see bikers

533
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:36,870
out there screaming calling for
the destruction of private

534
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:40,320
property or the death of police
officers. We're going to be

535
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,440
throwing the halftime
inauguration rally at John

536
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,490
Marshall park that will kick off
shortly after Donald Trump exits

537
00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:50,730
the stage to go into the
Capitol. And it will end shortly

538
00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:53,100
before the parade on
Pennsylvania Avenue.

539
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,070
Why are you such a big supporter
of Donald Trump?

540
00:31:57,090 --> 00:32:00,660
Well, like Donald Trump, the
biker has an outspoken nature.

541
00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:05,430
And so as Donald Trump came on
to the political scene, the

542
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:08,760
biker was looking for someone
outside the establishment,

543
00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:12,210
someone that was going to stand
up to and call it what it is.

544
00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:15,720
Radical Islam is one of the
biggest talking points of bikers

545
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,770
for Trump, illegal immigration,
and one of our sweet spots is

546
00:32:19,770 --> 00:32:22,230
getting behind the American
Veteran. We believe it's

547
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:25,170
incumbent upon all who
understand the value in the

548
00:32:25,170 --> 00:32:28,980
sacrifice of our servicemen and
women, that we are there for

549
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:31,110
them. And we've got to change
these policies now.

550
00:32:31,409 --> 00:32:33,149
Chris Cox, thanks very much for
joining.

551
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,970
That should be an interesting
show down because I gotta tell

552
00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:36,210
you,

553
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,880
yeah, it usually involves
stabbings.

554
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,590
Should I point to exhibit a
Gimme Shelter? The movie if you

555
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:47,400
if you want to know what could
happen? Just ask Mick Jagger.

556
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,100
Yeah, exactly.

557
00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:54,750
So I don't know. I don't know if
this is I don't know what's

558
00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:59,310
going to happen. Although I do
know that. And I didn't clip it

559
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:02,670
because it was just it was so
stupid. But Tucker Carlson had

560
00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:07,410
the had the guy on who posted
the ad. If you go and you'll go

561
00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:10,770
fight the fight against Trump
and I'll pay you was it 2050

562
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,960
like $500 a mani baloney guy?
Yeah. And guys discredited?

563
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:18,600
Yeah. No, Tucker made fun of
him. It was it was pretty good.

564
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,130
Actually. He kept talking about
how what's the quarterbacks

565
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:30,750
name? Well, hold on. Tom Brady.
No, no, no, no, no, he was he

566
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:34,050
had the the last night tiddle
Um, no, he had the last name

567
00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:37,590
right. But he had what he messed
up the Oh Peyton Manning

568
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:40,470
Manning. Yes, it's a want to say
Chelsea Manning but he kept

569
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:46,380
saying Peyton Manning so I
didn't even clip that it was

570
00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:50,730
just too stupid. So that was
that was debunked properly. I

571
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:53,190
was very good. And,

572
00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:56,730
you know, I think know how long
Tucker Carlson can keep up this

573
00:33:56,730 --> 00:34:02,220
torrid pace. What's making that
show work? Yeah, I always like

574
00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:04,710
to credit Tucker, but it's
actually the Booker.

575
00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:08,550
Yes. He's got a really good he's
got a great Booker. Absolutely.

576
00:34:09,809 --> 00:34:14,339
Absolutely. And we should credit
her or him on the show sometime.

577
00:34:14,339 --> 00:34:17,429
We should find out who it is.
Yeah, that's a person the unsung

578
00:34:17,429 --> 00:34:17,969
hero and

579
00:34:19,439 --> 00:34:21,569
you're right. They are the is
the booker

580
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,180
you don't have a good book or
you're you suck and is used that

581
00:34:24,180 --> 00:34:29,070
suck. And it's not you at all.
Did Well, Obama did have a you

582
00:34:29,070 --> 00:34:31,650
know, he had his last supposedly
I don't know how many last press

583
00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:32,490
conferences. Well, I

584
00:34:32,490 --> 00:34:35,550
know this. This was his he had
his last speech. And now this is

585
00:34:35,550 --> 00:34:36,780
the last press conference.

586
00:34:37,439 --> 00:34:39,839
He already had a last press con
now. No,

587
00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:42,120
it was a speech with questions.
You see, it's very different.

588
00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:45,390
Well, he had his last press
conference. I didn't get much

589
00:34:45,390 --> 00:34:48,540
that one clip out of it that I
thought was interesting. Ah,

590
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,100
yes. Is that Trump apparently
when he gets in, he's maybe

591
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:55,950
going to kick the press corps
out of the White House.

592
00:34:55,979 --> 00:34:59,729
Well, the idea and I have a
follow up clip to this. The idea

593
00:34:59,729 --> 00:35:04,589
is is to make more space for
more people, for more

594
00:35:04,589 --> 00:35:07,409
journalists. And if you look at
that, of course, I've watched it

595
00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:12,509
every day, if you look at the
the current press corps room,

596
00:35:12,509 --> 00:35:15,239
it's very small, it's packed,
people are fainting from time to

597
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,509
time. But of course, this will
be moving to the building next

598
00:35:18,509 --> 00:35:22,859
door. And that is obviously seen
as usurping the power of the

599
00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:27,269
press, the fourth estate,
whatever you want to call it.

600
00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:32,549
Well, Obama made this fantastic
plea. And I think the only thing

601
00:35:32,549 --> 00:35:36,029
I can think of that would be
behind the plea and he's doing

602
00:35:36,029 --> 00:35:39,539
he doesn't on an off handed way,
he's really good at saying one

603
00:35:39,539 --> 00:35:42,239
thing, but directing it at
somebody that nobody knows, but

604
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,949
play this clip, and I have some
thoughts on this.

605
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,170
And you have done that. And
having you in this building has

606
00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:54,750
made this place work better. It
keeps us it makes us work

607
00:35:54,750 --> 00:36:01,110
harder. No, it doesn't. You have
in made us think about how we

608
00:36:01,110 --> 00:36:04,830
are doing what we do and whether
or not we're able to deliver on

609
00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:08,940
what's been requested by our
constituents. But there's a

610
00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:15,450
difference between that normal
functioning of politics, and

611
00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:21,630
certain issues or certain
moments where I think our core

612
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:22,740
values may be at stake.

613
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:27,000
For our core values may be at
stake John Doe, John, this

614
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,560
is more valuable. First of all,

615
00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:31,080
I'll tell you why. Hold on. I
know you I want to hear what you

616
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,020
have to say. But let me just add
to this a quick clip from Josh

617
00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:37,350
Earnest, addressing the same
issue. I pulled him through the

618
00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:40,890
earnest filter. So I shortened
as many spaces as I could.

619
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:45,150
I alluded this in the in my long
comments at the beginning about

620
00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:49,170
how the United States has a
rather unique arrangement

621
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,470
between our government and the
independent media,

622
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:55,380
mainly by making them not
independent. That's

623
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,039
the fact that all of you
represent independent news

624
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,549
organizations, and have regular
access to the white house owned

625
00:37:02,549 --> 00:37:05,849
by three corporations have
regular access to workspace

626
00:37:05,849 --> 00:37:07,469
where you can. Oh, they have a

627
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,620
workspace John, they all have no
workspace I'm sure in the new

628
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:11,400
building, have the

629
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,880
venue where you can enter the
room, the briefing room at

630
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000
almost any hour, that would not
change I don't think and can

631
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,420
hold people in power accountable
is really important. Isn't that

632
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:23,460
what the whole point is you also
have access to senior White

633
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:25,860
House officials right through
that door. Oh, right up the ramp

634
00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:28,080
outside that door, you can come
into my office. Good luck, I'm

635
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,779
sure I'm sure you can just burst
through like on the West Wing

636
00:37:30,809 --> 00:37:33,689
hood. Hey, CJ, let me ask your
question

637
00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:36,660
at a moment's notice, to ask
questions and demand answers and

638
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:41,130
demand transparency or, and as I
mentioned earlier, sometimes

639
00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:43,830
it's a little inconvenient.
Sometimes it's uncomfortable.

640
00:37:44,070 --> 00:37:46,740
Sometimes it's frustrating,
because you're dissatisfied with

641
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:50,490
the answer that we've given. But
it's necessary for the success

642
00:37:50,490 --> 00:37:54,210
of our democracy. And I think
there are some clearly it's

643
00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:57,480
necessary for the people who
might say, John, that? Well,

644
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,410
this is it's just symbolic that
you have the White House press

645
00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:04,830
corps in the White House. And I
would say it's a really

646
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:08,190
important symbol. It's more than
just symbol, some guy's house.

647
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:13,860
It's almost symbolism, but even
taking that argument at face

648
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:17,280
value, there is something
symbolically important about all

649
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,520
of you gathering here every
single day, to hold people in

650
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,980
power accountable to demand
answers to demand transparency

651
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:26,370
to demand facts. And your
ability to do that is going to

652
00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:29,010
be affected if fact, you don't
have regular access to the White

653
00:38:29,010 --> 00:38:31,620
House, if you're not able to do
your job from the White House.

654
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,490
And if there's not a natural,
readily available venue for you

655
00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:40,140
to hold senior officials
accountable. So this is a this

656
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:44,220
is a again, a relationship that
President Obama believes is

657
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:47,160
important to invest in sure he
made this a priority.

658
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,810
Sure, sure.

659
00:38:48,809 --> 00:38:54,599
He did to priority to have him
in there. Yeah, priority why? I

660
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,569
know why. Well generally
possible reason they make such a

661
00:38:57,569 --> 00:39:02,339
fuss and I guess Trump was never
read in on it. The places

662
00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:02,909
bugged.

663
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,940
Well, they can bug the
executive.

664
00:39:06,570 --> 00:39:09,300
No, they bugged that press room
that thing is so bad. It's

665
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,610
probably every network
connection because they can put

666
00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:14,550
their little computers in there.
Everything's fine.

667
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,170
It's all set. Oh man, we got to
move all the ball the mics and

668
00:39:19,170 --> 00:39:24,180
the end and the taps and the and
yeah, the Ethernet.

669
00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:29,940
else would you make such a fuss
so they can be close to so they

670
00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:33,030
can drop in on us at a moment's
notice. And so we have to answer

671
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:34,350
their pointed questions.

672
00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:39,720
That is all crap that is not
what the resistance thinks this

673
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,870
is about. You are aware of the
resistance I presume?

674
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
I have heard of them. I don't
know why. What did they think

675
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,490
this is all

676
00:39:47,489 --> 00:39:51,059
about? Okay, well, first the
resistance, which now this came

677
00:39:51,059 --> 00:39:58,259
up on a face bag post. Tina, she
she was sad. She did it. But

678
00:39:58,259 --> 00:40:02,969
she's learning she posted A
second Project Veritas video

679
00:40:03,089 --> 00:40:06,779
where you hear these, these
disruptors saying, Oh, we're

680
00:40:06,779 --> 00:40:13,649
gonna go throw butyric butyric
acid into the Press Club. So

681
00:40:13,649 --> 00:40:16,499
they'll stink it up. And we're
going to, you know, the chain

682
00:40:16,499 --> 00:40:21,719
trains and block tracks and all
this stuff and had and wanted to

683
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,509
do nothing and one of the
commenters on her posts actually

684
00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:27,329
said, I don't see what's wrong
with it. This is just like the

685
00:40:27,329 --> 00:40:33,149
French Resistance against
Hitler. Take that in for a

686
00:40:33,149 --> 00:40:39,329
second. Wow, take that in for a
second. And this is a meme. And

687
00:40:39,329 --> 00:40:41,939
the resistance is something that
people are talking about on the

688
00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:46,409
bag for sure. And of course,
that is led by no one, no one

689
00:40:46,409 --> 00:40:48,479
less than Keith Olbermann.

690
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,330
I'm Keith Olbermann, and this is
the resistance. Trump's banana

691
00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:57,300
Republicans have proposed that
White House press briefings be

692
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,120
moved out of the presidential
mansion and held next door at

693
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,180
the executive office building
and why should you care for one

694
00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:06,360
damned minutes? Yes, ranks.
Priebus says it's a great thing

695
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,060
because the result would be
quote about quadrupling the

696
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:11,670
amount of reporters that can
cover the White House. And

697
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:14,070
certainly that sounds like a
wonderful intensification of the

698
00:41:14,070 --> 00:41:16,800
bright shining light of a
democratic free press on the

699
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,710
operation of the commander in
chief and his noble staff, the

700
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:24,030
more the better, right. Just the
way it works in Russia, a giant

701
00:41:24,030 --> 00:41:27,240
crowd of reporters screaming for
the leaders attention, making

702
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,760
signs indicating what
organization they belong to, and

703
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,720
even signs and props indicating
what questions they intend to

704
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:37,650
ask. Some of them showing
exactly the kind of objectivity

705
00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:41,040
and respectful skepticism a free
press is supposed to bring to

706
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,470
the coverage of government at
its highest levels. And yes,

707
00:41:43,470 --> 00:41:46,410
she's a self described
journalist at a Putin news

708
00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:49,350
conference holding a picture of
Putin ripping off his shirt to

709
00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:53,280
indicate he's actually Superman.
We are just a few steps removed

710
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,700
from the contestants trying to
get MC Monty halls attention

711
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:59,370
during the taping of the old
game show. Let's make a deal.

712
00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,150
This guy needs some new cultural
references. I think, though I

713
00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:07,290
would never want any comparison
among Vladimir Wow, Donald Trump

714
00:42:07,290 --> 00:42:12,000
and Monty Hall. I have respect
for Monty Hall. Look, I don't

715
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,190
know the last time anything at a
White House news conference or

716
00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:16,530
anything done by a White House
correspondent actually

717
00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:20,340
contributed anything measurable
here coverage of a president not

718
00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:23,790
since Sam Donaldson used to make
news by bellowing questions at

719
00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:26,760
Ronald Reagan and Reagan
condemning himself by refusing

720
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,430
to answer them. I also think
that if traditional journalism

721
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:32,430
contributes in any way to the
prevention of dictatorship here

722
00:42:32,430 --> 00:42:36,270
now, it will be by the grunt
work fact checking laws, news,

723
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:40,800
legislation and departmental
orders and checking legalities

724
00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:43,320
and confronting it
administration's lies with

725
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,530
facts. The next Woodward and
Bernstein will get there not at

726
00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:49,410
the news conferences but by
skillet filing Freedom of

727
00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:53,490
Information Act requests. But
the idea of quadrupling the

728
00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:55,710
amount of reporters that can
cover the White House is a

729
00:42:55,710 --> 00:43:00,030
Trojan horse with a lot of
Trojans. Ha ha Firstly, there is

730
00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:03,120
the Putin likes spectacle. The
bigger the room, the more room

731
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,960
for twirl staffers and hangers
on and for want of a better term

732
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:11,130
Trump plants. Trump gave this
stunt away at last week's news

733
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:14,850
conference, he packed the place
with people applauding for him.

734
00:43:14,970 --> 00:43:17,340
And they have as much right to
be at a presidential news

735
00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:21,180
conference as with people booing
him, and that amount of people

736
00:43:21,330 --> 00:43:25,770
is none. quadrupling the number
of so called reporters at the

737
00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:29,130
news conferences. And you have
suddenly created another stop on

738
00:43:29,130 --> 00:43:32,880
the Trump perpetual campaign
rally tour, quadruple the number

739
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,100
of so called reporters at the
news conferences, and you

740
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,800
suddenly make it easier to
ignore the reporters with actual

741
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,770
questions, as opposed to the
ones carrying signs showing

742
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:43,050
Trump wearing a Superman shirt.
Okay,

743
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,160
so you get the idea. The

744
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,669
whole thinking keep that guy to
a minimum on the show. Yeah,

745
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:50,130
but I just it was about the
resistance part. And then, you

746
00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:53,550
know, they he they the
resistance, believes this is

747
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:57,060
about making more room for
shields, shields and it's very

748
00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:02,040
much like, modeled after Putin
you say? Luckily

749
00:44:02,729 --> 00:44:05,699
dantian Yeah, it's the bugs. And
I

750
00:44:05,699 --> 00:44:08,279
liked I liked the theory. It's
not it's probably not even

751
00:44:08,279 --> 00:44:09,089
theories, right.

752
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:15,120
It is not unusual. I mean,
Lyndon B. Johnson bugged his

753
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,410
Oval Office. They used to do
this constantly. And it's not a

754
00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:22,530
it's nothing new to the I know,
they just not that it's a

755
00:44:22,530 --> 00:44:25,050
stunning idea. It's just so
obvious.

756
00:44:25,289 --> 00:44:29,639
Luckily. Jake Tapper, of course,
he was fired from ABC News after

757
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,879
he was a douchebag to the
President. We all remember that.

758
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:38,219
He went on Seth Meyers show a
Trump hater. Although I kind of

759
00:44:38,219 --> 00:44:42,239
like his show. It's just tiring.
And yeah, you

760
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,489
can take you can watch it for a
few shows in a row. And then

761
00:44:44,489 --> 00:44:46,799
it's like, whoa, wait a minute
and say we're repeating

762
00:44:46,799 --> 00:44:50,489
material. Yeah, a closer look
very much of a just Trump. Hey.

763
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,360
Here's tapper on Seth Meyers
talking about the relationship

764
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:57,600
which we just heard was so
fantastic. And President Obama

765
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,240
actually encouraged everything
and he said everything happened

766
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,400
was great. And we love the
press. And

767
00:45:02,429 --> 00:45:04,559
it's interesting also, because I
remember when the WikiLeaks

768
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,529
happened. This is about
WikiLeaks was a White House

769
00:45:07,529 --> 00:45:09,359
correspondent like you,
Margaret. And I remember the the

770
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:11,939
White House was so outraged.
They were so angry. They were so

771
00:45:11,939 --> 00:45:13,199
convinced that these rooms and

772
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,419
I'm sorry, this isn't the this
isn't the Seth Meyers thing.

773
00:45:18,299 --> 00:45:21,149
That's not the one I want.
That's a different one. Seth,

774
00:45:21,149 --> 00:45:23,819
here it is. Seth Meyers.

775
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:26,520
One of the things that happened
during the first Obama term when

776
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,530
they go and I'm not, I'm not
saying these things are

777
00:45:28,530 --> 00:45:31,800
equivalent. But the Obama White
House went to war against Fox

778
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,950
News. And they tried to say that
the entire organization was

779
00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:38,820
illegitimate. And it wasn't, you
know, this anchor is a jerk or

780
00:45:38,820 --> 00:45:42,270
this story is a lie, or whatever
it was this entire organization,

781
00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:45,180
including hundreds of reporters
and producers who were just

782
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:49,230
doing honest work, people I knew
Major Garrett Bradbury, people

783
00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:52,710
who are good reporters. And when
they were doing that I

784
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:56,010
challenged them for that,
specifically, because it's an

785
00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:58,500
important principle to stand up
for. We're all supposed to be in

786
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:00,810
this together. And you can't
just like, say, Well, you know,

787
00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:04,410
CNN, if you're with an
organization that's not CNN, and

788
00:46:04,410 --> 00:46:07,230
you watch them just destroy us
or trying to destroy us, just

789
00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:09,630
because they don't like the
story, which is again, proven to

790
00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:13,290
be completely true. Then your
next Yeah, your next if you're

791
00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:15,030
doing your job, and you have a
story that they don't like.

792
00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:15,990
Yeah,

793
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:20,700
yeah, we remember that. Remember
that? Yeah. I remember President

794
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:23,880
Obama saying Fox News is crap.
faffed. Can't watch Fox News

795
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,810
does horrible is that's fake to
no good liars. We could go to

796
00:46:30,810 --> 00:46:36,480
WikiLeaks now. And actually more
Chelsea Manning, but I have a

797
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:42,780
something that popped up this
morning, which was very dark, a

798
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:45,900
very dark piece on CNN. At the
same time, it was actually it's

799
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:49,350
beautiful. It's a promotion for
entertainment. Of course, you

800
00:46:49,350 --> 00:46:51,270
always have to throw an
entertainment promotion there.

801
00:46:52,110 --> 00:46:55,380
And it is some putting some fear
in there that really what the

802
00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:59,460
question here is, what happens
if there's a terrorist attack

803
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:03,360
during the inauguration, and
everybody's wiped out? I mean,

804
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,060
these are the things you should
ask if you're CNN, of course, if

805
00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:09,540
everybody's wiped out, then what
have who's in line who is next,

806
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,930
who will actually become the
president, somehow Biden gets

807
00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:16,140
in? No, it could be worse
actually. And this will end as I

808
00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:20,850
said, it'll flow into a nice
promotional piece for Designated

809
00:47:20,850 --> 00:47:24,630
Survivor which is on ABC, but
this is a CNN piece, who is the

810
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:27,660
designated survivor. If everyone
dies tomorrow,

811
00:47:27,689 --> 00:47:30,959
just about every measure of
America security apparatus,

812
00:47:30,989 --> 00:47:34,859
including 28,000 law enforcement
personnel will be on the ground

813
00:47:34,859 --> 00:47:38,009
in Washington when President
Obama hands off his office to

814
00:47:38,009 --> 00:47:41,849
Donald Trump on Friday, on near
army in place to protect the

815
00:47:41,849 --> 00:47:45,209
leaders of all branches of
government gathered in one place

816
00:47:45,269 --> 00:47:48,959
outside. And while officials
stressed there's no specific

817
00:47:48,989 --> 00:47:52,139
credible threat to this
inauguration. Tonight, due to a

818
00:47:52,139 --> 00:47:55,349
quirk in America's rules for
succession questions remain

819
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:58,349
about just who would be in
charge if an attack hit the

820
00:47:58,349 --> 00:48:01,079
incoming president, vice
president and congressional

821
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:04,199
leaders just as the transfer of
power is underway.

822
00:48:04,349 --> 00:48:06,779
Here you have a very confusing
line of succession there,

823
00:48:06,779 --> 00:48:07,169
according

824
00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:10,200
to the Constitution if the
President and Vice President are

825
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,160
killed or incapacitated, Next in
line is the house speaker, then

826
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,070
the President pro tempore of the
Senate. But what if something

827
00:48:17,070 --> 00:48:20,340
happened to them at the
inauguration to after that it

828
00:48:20,340 --> 00:48:22,980
goes down the list of Cabinet
Secretaries starting with

829
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:26,130
Secretary of State on the day of
the inauguration as a

830
00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:28,980
precaution, a cabinet secretary
called the designated

831
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:32,790
presidential successor will not
attend the inauguration ready to

832
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:36,030
step in if something happens,
but it won't be a Trump cabinet

833
00:48:36,030 --> 00:48:39,210
secretary since none of them
have been confirmed yet. It will

834
00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:42,810
be an Obama appointee. No word
from the White House on who that

835
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:45,990
will be on Friday. Does the line
of succession switch to the new

836
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:47,520
president's lineup at noon

837
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,850
and the inauguration you have
two lines of succession one for

838
00:48:50,850 --> 00:48:54,030
the Brock Obama administration
which is still in place, and one

839
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:56,700
which really won't be in place
until Donald Trump is

840
00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:59,700
inaugurated comes into office
and actually formally nominates

841
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,010
in the Senate confirms his
people. You might actually end

842
00:49:02,010 --> 00:49:04,830
up with the President's from the
prior administration execute

843
00:49:04,830 --> 00:49:05,520
because of a treasury

844
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:08,490
adding to the confusion by noon
Friday all

845
00:49:08,610 --> 00:49:11,130
Did you hear what it was in the
background of that clip? If you

846
00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:14,580
listen again, so while they're
saying while the guys talking

847
00:49:14,580 --> 00:49:18,750
there's a clip of President
Obama being inaugurated the

848
00:49:18,750 --> 00:49:25,050
first time no the third time and
they cut out he says I will

849
00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,570
faithfully execute and they cut
him off right there. I just

850
00:49:27,570 --> 00:49:31,050
weird just this is like a minor
thing listening administration

851
00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:33,480
execute, because if you can hear
it in the background, it's been

852
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,600
about to actually end up with
the president from the prior

853
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,400
administration execute because
of a treasury,

854
00:49:38,789 --> 00:49:42,329
adding to the confusion. By noon
Friday, all of Obama's cabinet

855
00:49:42,329 --> 00:49:45,899
secretaries are expected to
resign. John Kerry, the current

856
00:49:45,899 --> 00:49:48,779
Secretary of State would be the
first cabinet secretary in the

857
00:49:48,779 --> 00:49:52,289
line of succession, but he's out
of office by noon. Donald

858
00:49:52,289 --> 00:49:55,289
Trump's pick for Secretary of
State Rex Tillerson may not be

859
00:49:55,289 --> 00:49:58,589
confirmed for another week or
two. So who would be Secretary

860
00:49:58,589 --> 00:50:01,139
of State on Friday afternoon
rotos according to State

861
00:50:01,139 --> 00:50:03,539
Department sources, the job
would fall to the highest

862
00:50:03,539 --> 00:50:06,629
ranking non political official
in the department. The

863
00:50:06,629 --> 00:50:10,079
Undersecretary for Political
Affairs, Tom Shannon, one of

864
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:13,199
the most obscure possibilities
is that someone who is an Acting

865
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:15,569
Secretary of State someone lower
down the line and Secretary of

866
00:50:15,569 --> 00:50:19,619
State State Department today
assumes the Acting Secretary of

867
00:50:19,619 --> 00:50:22,379
State position is in the line
and the worst happens and that

868
00:50:22,379 --> 00:50:24,539
person becomes president at
least for a while, but the

869
00:50:24,539 --> 00:50:25,169
uncertainty

870
00:50:25,169 --> 00:50:29,579
creates the potential for chaos,
high theater, or a hit TV drama.

871
00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:33,240
Sir, you are now the president
of the United States.

872
00:50:34,770 --> 00:50:38,160
In ABC is designated survivor
Kiefer Sutherland plays an

873
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,890
obscure Cabinet Secretary
unexpectedly thrust

874
00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:46,230
you get the idea. So first of
all, wow. Who decided to put

875
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:46,950
this together?

876
00:50:48,929 --> 00:50:51,029
Maybe it's a native ad for ABC.

877
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,220
That's the only thing I could
think of because it keeps on

878
00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:56,070
going and going about the ABC
show, which is okay. I mean,

879
00:50:56,070 --> 00:50:58,500
I've seen it a couple episodes.
I was following it for a bit,

880
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:04,470
and I got bored of it. It's not
watchable. And I'm really only

881
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:07,830
thought that was good to put in
there, I guess.

882
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,850
Well, let's transfer this
discussion to Manning. Yeah,

883
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:14,580
good. Peyton Manning. Peyton
Manning. Yeah, it's a shame he

884
00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:17,760
retired. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm
thinking Chelsea Manning.

885
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:23,549
Yeah, just a quick precursor.
I'll just play like 30 seconds.

886
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:30,239
The news media had this a week
ago. Because they, all of a

887
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,219
sudden, they started talking
about it started talking. This

888
00:51:32,219 --> 00:51:37,349
is from January 11. on NBC. Was
Chelsea Manning a spy.

889
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:42,270
She was not. She was an
individual who I think we count

890
00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:46,350
on. And in America, she was a
whistleblower. She was somebody

891
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:50,700
who turns to like so many other
whistleblowers, a journalist in

892
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:54,180
order to reveal information that
the American public not only

893
00:51:54,810 --> 00:51:56,370
should know, but needs to know.

894
00:51:56,610 --> 00:51:59,610
Army Reserve Officer, David
Coombs, was Manning's defense

895
00:51:59,610 --> 00:52:03,030
lawyer. He convinced her to
plead guilty to numerous counts.

896
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:05,430
So that goes on and on and on.
And they talk about possible

897
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:08,730
pardons. And this was a week
ago, all over the news media.

898
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,810
I'm pretty sure it was leaked.
Maybe maybe to give them more

899
00:52:12,810 --> 00:52:15,030
credibility, like, oh, yeah,
I'll give you guys some that'll

900
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:15,720
actually have

901
00:52:15,810 --> 00:52:18,480
it. I think it'd be less more
likely to do that to see what

902
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,590
the reaction would be

903
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,570
as a trial balloon. Good idea.

904
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:25,889
Yeah, but I didn't expect that
reaction to be so screwy. I

905
00:52:25,889 --> 00:52:28,829
mean, the here's I have the
short, I have a series of clips,

906
00:52:28,829 --> 00:52:32,969
we have the short clip of Obama
announcing it. And then it

907
00:52:32,969 --> 00:52:36,629
doesn't really say that much.
Although he may, he makes one

908
00:52:36,629 --> 00:52:38,759
point in there that the
Republicans don't seem to

909
00:52:38,759 --> 00:52:39,719
accept. First of

910
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:45,600
all, let's be clear, let's be
clear on Chelsea Manning, as

911
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:55,860
served a tough prison sentence.
So the notion that the average

912
00:52:55,860 --> 00:53:00,330
person who was thinking about
disclosing vital classified

913
00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:06,690
information, I would think that
it goes on punished. I don't

914
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:12,480
think would get that impression
from the sense that Chelsea

915
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:21,510
Manning has served has been my
view that given she went to

916
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:30,720
trial. That due process was
carried out that she took

917
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:37,800
responsibility for her crime
point that the sentence that she

918
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,150
received was very
disproportional,

919
00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:47,490
disproportionate relative to
what other lawmakers had

920
00:53:47,490 --> 00:53:48,030
received.

921
00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:53,160
And the points he's making in
there were directed at Snowden.

922
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:58,650
Oh, yeah. And this whole thing,
in fact, NBC was who I now think

923
00:53:58,650 --> 00:54:01,830
is pretty much carrying the ball
for the agency, the intelligence

924
00:54:01,830 --> 00:54:08,250
community, more so than CBS. I
think had probably done the best

925
00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:12,630
job of of kind of presenting it
as something that's okay, now

926
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:15,900
that we can do this. And I have
a couple of clips. There's the

927
00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:20,160
NBC on Manning clip. And then I
think it would follow that with

928
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,750
the Snowden angle. NBC on
Manning sorry.

929
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,020
He's tried to commit suicide
last year. She is currently

930
00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:31,410
incarcerated in the male
military prison at Leavenworth,

931
00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:35,820
Kansas. Was the government able
to point to any specific damage

932
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:39,210
as a result of the releases from
Chelsea Manning? No, they

933
00:54:39,210 --> 00:54:43,950
were not. And we had secret
sessions of the court martial,

934
00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:47,130
where that would be the place
that the government would do

935
00:54:47,130 --> 00:54:50,520
that. And the answer was no,
what they would be able to show

936
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,090
and what they did show was
certain diplomats had their

937
00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:57,090
feelings hurt. Certain countries
were upset

938
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,540
Manning's 35 years sentence is
the longest any leak Er has ever

939
00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:03,990
received. But not everyone
supports the decision. A senior

940
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:07,740
US official tells NBC News
Secretary of Defense Ash Carter

941
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:12,120
did not support the commutation
At her trial. Manning apologized

942
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,540
for her actions, but that
apology was never heard outside

943
00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:19,740
the courtroom until last week
when NBC news broadcast it.

944
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:23,970
So interesting is it's not a
pardon, but a commutation right

945
00:55:23,970 --> 00:55:24,090
off.

946
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:29,579
Yeah, well, yeah. Well, I think
they needed to keep make sure

947
00:55:29,579 --> 00:55:32,399
that she remained guilty of
charge of the charges that just

948
00:55:32,429 --> 00:55:35,189
cut the sentence down. That's
all it is. Right. Right. But

949
00:55:35,189 --> 00:55:38,279
they got her out before the 35
years for pretty much doing

950
00:55:38,279 --> 00:55:40,649
nothing. And I liked the idea of
this guy saying, Hey, we looked

951
00:55:40,649 --> 00:55:43,949
at this. All that happened was a
few diplomats feelings

952
00:55:43,950 --> 00:55:47,040
were hurt. feelings were hurt.
That's the best part. Oh, my

953
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,340
feelings were hurt because we I
was calling people douchebag.

954
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,090
So NBC goes on and they send
they just sociate the whole

955
00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:58,290
thing was snowed in eventually,
but let's skip over to PBS. And

956
00:55:58,290 --> 00:56:02,400
they had actually a complete
report. That wasn't wasn't too

957
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,060
cloudy.

958
00:56:03,509 --> 00:56:08,339
President Obama today also
commuted the prison sentence of

959
00:56:08,339 --> 00:56:11,969
Chelsea Manning for passing
classified military and

960
00:56:11,969 --> 00:56:16,649
diplomatic files to WikiLeaks.
The former US Army Intelligence

961
00:56:16,649 --> 00:56:22,199
Analyst is serving a sentence of
35 years. She is one of 209

962
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:26,309
inmates who received
commutations today, another 64

963
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:30,299
received pardons. Charlie Savage
is covering the story for The

964
00:56:30,299 --> 00:56:33,749
New York Times. Charlie Savage,
remind us what Chelsea Manning

965
00:56:33,749 --> 00:56:35,249
was originally charged with.

966
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,290
Hi, yes, thanks for having me
on. So when Chelsea Manning was

967
00:56:40,290 --> 00:56:43,890
arrested in 2010, and charged
with passing documents to

968
00:56:43,890 --> 00:56:47,520
WikiLeaks, she was charged with
numerous accounts of violating

969
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,810
the Espionage Act, and also was
charged with aiding the enemy,

970
00:56:51,810 --> 00:56:54,810
which is essentially the
military justice systems version

971
00:56:54,810 --> 00:56:59,610
of treason. She was convicted of
the Espionage Act charges most

972
00:56:59,610 --> 00:57:02,790
of them, but was acquitted of
aiding the enemy. And she was

973
00:57:02,790 --> 00:57:06,990
sentenced to 35 years in prison,
which is dramatically longer

974
00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:11,370
than any other prison sentence
ever carried out in the American

975
00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:13,110
justice system for leak case.

976
00:57:13,170 --> 00:57:16,950
And do we know why the President
decided to commute her sentence.

977
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:21,389
So there was a briefing call
with senior White House

978
00:57:21,389 --> 00:57:24,539
officials after these
commutations and pardons were

979
00:57:24,539 --> 00:57:28,259
announced, and we senior White
House official, we weren't

980
00:57:28,259 --> 00:57:31,139
allowed to name them under the
ground rules, described a little

981
00:57:31,139 --> 00:57:34,679
bit of the President's thinking
about this. He said, Look, she

982
00:57:35,399 --> 00:57:39,419
admitted that what she had done,
was wrong and apologized for it

983
00:57:39,629 --> 00:57:44,819
and expressed remorse, and has
now been serving nearly seven

984
00:57:44,849 --> 00:57:50,219
years in prison for it, and most
people who have been convicted

985
00:57:50,249 --> 00:57:53,849
of the leak case in leak cases,
it's been about a dozen, most of

986
00:57:53,849 --> 00:57:57,419
them in the last eight years
have been convicted have been

987
00:57:57,419 --> 00:58:01,589
sentenced to you know, one, two
or three years, not 35. And so

988
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:06,089
part of this was also the equity
of making the sentence more in

989
00:58:06,089 --> 00:58:09,869
the range of what other people
accused of similar conduct have

990
00:58:09,899 --> 00:58:10,379
received.

991
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:13,979
So the question is what signals
does this send tonight the

992
00:58:13,979 --> 00:58:17,339
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
has issued a statement saying

993
00:58:17,339 --> 00:58:19,139
quote, this is just outrageous.

994
00:58:20,190 --> 00:58:24,390
Okay, so let's stop there. And
then play a douchebag for Paul

995
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:28,770
Ryan. You know, the thing that I
should outrageous everybody else

996
00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:31,290
is like they said, getting one
two or three years that she's

997
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,870
gotten 35 And this is
outrageous. They let her go

998
00:58:33,870 --> 00:58:34,200
after

999
00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:37,139
seven. The thing that gets me in
this because

1000
00:58:37,139 --> 00:58:39,479
there's nothing in these
releases. You've read them

1001
00:58:39,479 --> 00:58:41,579
they're just a bunch of dumb
memos. Hey, there's dinner

1002
00:58:41,579 --> 00:58:43,229
tonight. Yes, cables,

1003
00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:45,120
and people are saying calling
other people, you know,

1004
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,600
officials and they're like, Guys
an asshole. I mean, the main

1005
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,540
thing, the main thing was the
video. We have the helicopter

1006
00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:54,330
gunship with the audio of the
guys, I can't really blame them

1007
00:58:54,330 --> 00:58:57,270
because it's saying, Oh, they're
they're in a war zone. But

1008
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:57,480
they're like,

1009
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,230
yeah.

1010
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:03,930
That's really the

1011
00:59:03,929 --> 00:59:07,559
optics are bad. She's very, but
but

1012
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:11,819
here's the thing. Chelsea
Manning, leaked all that

1013
00:59:11,819 --> 00:59:16,319
information to WikiLeaks. So
here's what's crazy. If you look

1014
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:21,419
at the bag right now, you got
the bots going. Oh, so fabulous.

1015
00:59:21,449 --> 00:59:28,589
He's so good. How Obama? Yes,
yes, yes. Yes, Queen? Yes. Yes.

1016
00:59:28,589 --> 00:59:33,599
But yes, Chelsea, but at the
same time, the same people are

1017
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:39,299
saying WikiLeaks is crap. They
change the emails is bullcrap.

1018
00:59:39,299 --> 00:59:43,049
It's not legitimate. They have
to choose one or the other. You

1019
00:59:43,049 --> 00:59:45,839
know, you can have both ways.
Here's Jake Tapper. This is the

1020
00:59:45,869 --> 00:59:46,889
clip I played earlier. It's

1021
00:59:46,889 --> 00:59:48,839
interesting also, because I
remember when the WikiLeaks

1022
00:59:48,839 --> 00:59:51,539
happened. It was a White House
correspondent like you, Margaret

1023
00:59:51,539 --> 00:59:53,609
and I remember the the White
House was so outraged. They were

1024
00:59:53,609 --> 00:59:56,699
so angry. They were so convinced
that these reams of documents

1025
00:59:56,699 --> 01:00:00,539
1000s and 1000s of pages of
documents, logs from Iraq. flogs

1026
01:00:00,539 --> 01:00:05,129
from Afghanistan, we're going to
reveal to our enemies, sources

1027
01:00:05,129 --> 01:00:08,579
and methods individuals named in
these documents. Now, I don't

1028
01:00:08,579 --> 01:00:11,969
know, if there have actually
been any victims as a result

1029
01:00:11,969 --> 01:00:14,759
that you could clearly say, this
was WikiLeaks, and therefore

1030
01:00:14,759 --> 01:00:17,549
this person in Afghanistan or
Iraq died? I don't know. But

1031
01:00:17,549 --> 01:00:17,729
that's

1032
01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:19,560
absolutely right. That was the
argument that had greatly

1033
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,930
compromised US national
security, and that you had to

1034
01:00:21,930 --> 01:00:23,310
make an example out of this sort
of thing.

1035
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:28,949
And I will say that the way that
Senator Cotton describes Private

1036
01:00:28,949 --> 01:00:32,489
Manning, is how the White House
when I was a White House

1037
01:00:32,489 --> 01:00:36,239
correspondent described Private
Manning as well, they were

1038
01:00:36,479 --> 01:00:40,199
furious. They were outraged.
They could they thought that

1039
01:00:40,229 --> 01:00:42,449
that those of us in the press
who were reading these

1040
01:00:42,449 --> 01:00:46,169
WikiLeaks, that that we were
doing something wrong by by

1041
01:00:46,169 --> 01:00:46,739
reading them.

1042
01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:50,520
And if I recall correctly, it
really put WikiLeaks on the map.

1043
01:00:50,550 --> 01:00:54,510
That particular case those files
made WikiLeaks famous,

1044
01:00:54,930 --> 01:00:57,330
especially the gun to ship
video.

1045
01:00:57,420 --> 01:01:01,920
Yeah. So yeah, it's just it's,
if anything, this is confusing

1046
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,060
people more brains. And heads
are exploding everywhere because

1047
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:06,540
of this.

1048
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:13,649
Well, NBC going back to NBC,
they end up moving the argument,

1049
01:01:13,649 --> 01:01:16,079
they split the argument a little
bit, and they try to move it

1050
01:01:16,349 --> 01:01:21,779
kind of to Assange. And then
just Snowden. Because they want

1051
01:01:21,779 --> 01:01:24,299
to make this association they
really want they're really going

1052
01:01:24,299 --> 01:01:28,289
after Snowden. And in another
big way. And this, again, this

1053
01:01:28,289 --> 01:01:32,189
is the reason we believe or I
personally believe that the

1054
01:01:32,189 --> 01:01:36,989
Russians are big a hole since
2013, when this all began the

1055
01:01:36,989 --> 01:01:41,579
anti Russian stuff. Because of
Snowden, because we don't have

1056
01:01:41,579 --> 01:01:44,039
an extradition treaty with the
Russians and whose fault is

1057
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:49,259
that? I don't, so it was. So the
Russians really don't have any

1058
01:01:49,259 --> 01:01:52,649
they can't just grab this guy
and send him off there. I don't

1059
01:01:52,649 --> 01:01:55,709
know what they what we expect.
But let's play NBC on Manning

1060
01:01:55,709 --> 01:01:56,999
Snowden angle.

1061
01:01:57,510 --> 01:02:00,630
Sources inside the intelligence
community believe the reason

1062
01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:03,930
Manning sent us was so stiff was
because Edward Snowden was

1063
01:02:03,930 --> 01:02:07,290
massive leaks came to light just
as Manning was being sentenced.

1064
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,370
Snowden was beyond the reach of
the US and Russia. Manning paid

1065
01:02:11,370 --> 01:02:14,910
the price. A petition for a
pardon from Mr. Snowden, with

1066
01:02:14,910 --> 01:02:18,360
over a million signatures was
not acted upon by the White

1067
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,440
House fester.

1068
01:02:22,139 --> 01:02:25,559
So they make that connection and
they use their one of their best

1069
01:02:25,859 --> 01:02:29,249
hit people to do it. But let's
just do now let's play this is

1070
01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:32,459
the NBC Snowden Putin. They
bring Putin and Putin Trump

1071
01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:35,969
everybody's everybody's brought
into this clip.

1072
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,150
Alright, Cynthia McFadden in New
York. Thank you. And speaking of

1073
01:02:39,150 --> 01:02:43,020
Snowden, his current home Russia
Today Vladimir Putin came to the

1074
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:46,560
defensive President Elect Donald
Trump, breaking his silence

1075
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,680
about those unverified
allegations leaked about Mr.

1076
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,070
Trump last week. Well here at
home more Democrats are joining

1077
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,910
an inauguration boycott with
just three days to go. NBC is

1078
01:02:56,910 --> 01:02:58,320
Hallie Jackson has more.

1079
01:03:00,179 --> 01:03:04,379
Tonight from Vladimir Putin a
perhaps unsurprising response to

1080
01:03:04,379 --> 01:03:07,319
those salacious but
unsubstantiated allegations

1081
01:03:07,319 --> 01:03:11,249
about Donald Trump. Rubbish The
Russian leader says defending

1082
01:03:11,249 --> 01:03:14,999
Trump and his first public
statement about that report. I

1083
01:03:14,999 --> 01:03:18,119
see Putin accusing the Obama
administration of trying to

1084
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:22,199
delegitimize Trump working to
solidify a political partnership

1085
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:26,159
even before it officially begins
Friday, Inauguration Day. But

1086
01:03:26,189 --> 01:03:29,699
dozens of Democrats will be
boycotting the no shows now

1087
01:03:29,699 --> 01:03:33,329
numbering more than 50 scattered
reports of boycotts popped up in

1088
01:03:33,329 --> 01:03:38,669
1973 with Richard Nixon and 2001
with George W. Bush, but nothing

1089
01:03:38,669 --> 01:03:41,759
that reached this level of
coverage sparked by comments

1090
01:03:41,759 --> 01:03:44,429
from Congressman and civil
rights freedom writer John

1091
01:03:44,429 --> 01:03:47,609
Lewis, who despite saying this
would be his first missed

1092
01:03:47,609 --> 01:03:51,419
inauguration, also skipped
President Bush's in 2001.

1093
01:03:51,449 --> 01:03:55,649
He then attended like so many
other members of Congress to the

1094
01:03:55,649 --> 01:03:57,569
present President Bush was a
friend of mine, and he got

1095
01:03:57,569 --> 01:04:00,659
caught in a very bad life. So
let's see what happens as far as

1096
01:04:00,689 --> 01:04:03,779
other people not going that's
okay because we need so badly

1097
01:04:03,870 --> 01:04:10,050
demonstrations already starting
in Washington. At least 99 of

1098
01:04:10,050 --> 01:04:14,760
them planned this week, some for
most against with the different

1099
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,240
public protests coming from a
top intelligence official CIA

1100
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,260
head John Brennan taking serious
offense to Trump's accusation he

1101
01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:26,310
leaked sensitive information and
suggestion intelligence agencies

1102
01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:29,880
use Nazi like tactics. Brennan
telling the Wall Street Journal

1103
01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:32,910
when his integrity is
challenged, quote, that's where

1104
01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:34,980
I think the line is crossed.

1105
01:04:35,849 --> 01:04:39,749
Oh, my goodness. Oh,

1106
01:04:39,809 --> 01:04:43,769
Randy was never mentioned. Of
course. No. But he took offense.

1107
01:04:44,339 --> 01:04:47,729
We can take you can take a
powder. He's our gym. Yeah, he's

1108
01:04:47,729 --> 01:04:48,059
and he's

1109
01:04:48,059 --> 01:04:52,949
gone. pencil pusher go away. And
you have one more PBS man and

1110
01:04:52,949 --> 01:04:53,429
clip you want

1111
01:04:53,429 --> 01:04:56,399
Yes. It's the way that PBS thing
finished up and I thought that

1112
01:04:56,399 --> 01:05:00,659
PBS, again handled is probably
better than the other networks

1113
01:05:00,659 --> 01:05:03,449
were just kind of glossed over a
bunch of stuff tried to bring

1114
01:05:03,449 --> 01:05:07,379
their hit people in to just do
guilt by association measures

1115
01:05:07,379 --> 01:05:13,619
like this Putin thing. And like
Halle says, All unsurprisingly,

1116
01:05:13,739 --> 01:05:17,009
Putin came to his defense, which
I just thought was offensive.

1117
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:20,039
Yeah. Okay, Manning on

1118
01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:23,459
PBS do tonight the Speaker of
the House, Paul Ryan has issued

1119
01:05:23,459 --> 01:05:27,029
a statement saying, quote, this
is just outrageous. He says

1120
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:30,299
Chelsea Manning's treachery put
American lives at registry

1121
01:05:30,329 --> 01:05:33,839
expose some of our nation's most
sensitive secrets. And he says

1122
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:36,299
the president now leaves in
place a dangerous precedent.

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01:05:36,479 --> 01:05:39,929
Those who compromise our
national security won't be held

1124
01:05:39,929 --> 01:05:42,389
accountable for their crimes.
That's one

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01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:45,960
of many statements like that
coming out of Republicans on the

1126
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,890
Hill. We haven't heard yet from
President elect Trump on this.

1127
01:05:49,890 --> 01:05:53,400
But that same is reflected by
what other people like Senator

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01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,360
McCain and others have said, I
would say is a point of just a

1129
01:05:57,390 --> 01:06:00,510
clarification. None of the
documents that Chelsea Manning

1130
01:06:00,510 --> 01:06:04,590
leaked were classified above the
merely classified level. That is

1131
01:06:04,590 --> 01:06:07,290
to say none of them were top
secret. That was another thing

1132
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:09,420
that the White House was
stressing today and comparing

1133
01:06:09,420 --> 01:06:13,500
her to Edward Snowden, who
President Obama declined to

1134
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:17,040
pardon. So that to say they're
some of the most sensitive

1135
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,150
secrets is an exaggeration. And
also Military Prosecutors all at

1136
01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:25,200
the at her court martial did not
accuse her or present any

1137
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080
evidence that anyone was
actually killed as a result of

1138
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,550
her leaks. On the other hand,
the government did scramble

1139
01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:36,900
afterwards to move some people
out of harm's potential harm's

1140
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,960
way, who were named in some of
the documents as having helped

1141
01:06:40,140 --> 01:06:44,130
American diplomats or troops in
very dangerous countries, lest

1142
01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:47,130
they come to harm. So the fact
that no one was killed didn't

1143
01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:50,730
mean that it wasn't indeed
putting some people at risk. And

1144
01:06:50,730 --> 01:06:52,650
she has apologized for having
done that.

1145
01:06:54,270 --> 01:06:58,140
Yeah, well, okay. It was a very
different story seven years ago.

1146
01:06:59,370 --> 01:07:00,600
Very, very different.

1147
01:07:01,139 --> 01:07:04,349
I have a couple of more clips
that will play later, again,

1148
01:07:04,349 --> 01:07:08,639
where they, as these guys leave
their rewrite. They're doing

1149
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:14,219
that. And by the way, when Obama
finishes thing is last press

1150
01:07:14,219 --> 01:07:17,309
conference, it would have been
nice if he had said, you know, I

1151
01:07:17,309 --> 01:07:19,499
had pride, I feel disappointed
in myself, because I had

1152
01:07:19,499 --> 01:07:23,279
promised to shut down get Mo and
I was unable to do it. It was

1153
01:07:23,279 --> 01:07:26,339
more complicated than I thought.
I didn't know there's gonna be

1154
01:07:26,339 --> 01:07:28,919
so much resistance. I'm sorry, I
didn't miss the one thing I

1155
01:07:28,919 --> 01:07:32,969
didn't. He never does that.
never apologizes for any of his

1156
01:07:32,969 --> 01:07:36,809
failure to the bank. And that's
one of his take it to the bank

1157
01:07:36,809 --> 01:07:40,169
things. And anyways, I just
found that kind of

1158
01:07:40,169 --> 01:07:43,739
disappointing. And I find it
very disappointing that the

1159
01:07:43,739 --> 01:07:47,729
Republicans are all in on this,
let's punish this poor Chelsea

1160
01:07:47,729 --> 01:07:51,719
Manning person who now leaked a
bunch of funny memos, as far as

1161
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:55,589
I was concerned is more humor
than anything else. Because she

1162
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:59,279
put all this stuff at risk, and
there, and meanwhile, Obama put

1163
01:07:59,279 --> 01:08:03,749
more whistleblowers in jail than
anybody ever. Yeah. Okay.

1164
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:08,699
President history. And nobody
says anything about that. And

1165
01:08:08,699 --> 01:08:10,619
yet we're supposed to be
protecting whistleblowers that

1166
01:08:10,619 --> 01:08:13,109
are that are citing corruption
and government. That's what

1167
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:16,739
they're doing. I don't know. I
just find the whole state very

1168
01:08:16,739 --> 01:08:19,829
disappointing end of year, and
I'm very disappointed by like, I

1169
01:08:19,859 --> 01:08:23,789
didn't even give us a crap. But
I just think that Paul Ryan and

1170
01:08:23,789 --> 01:08:25,499
McCain and incredible

1171
01:08:25,980 --> 01:08:30,480
they are doing Rosie O'Donnell,
who of course, is part of the

1172
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:35,010
resistance. She says, hey, you
know, Trump has a legitimate

1173
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,400
candidate. So why don't we just
have someone, you know,

1174
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:43,680
temporary president and her idea
was John McCain. Yeah, well,

1175
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,660
Rosie O'Donnell should just
choose our president, that's

1176
01:08:45,660 --> 01:08:49,680
fine. I'll wrap this up with
kind of a tease what we'll do

1177
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:55,410
after our, what we'll do in the
B Block, as finally an actual

1178
01:08:55,410 --> 01:08:58,800
journalist came out and said
something really good. Bob

1179
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,160
Woodward, of course, one half of
the Watergate reporting team

1180
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,430
that brought you the Watergate
tapes, and the whole story, etc.

1181
01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:10,590
And he is talking here about the
golden shower dossier.

1182
01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:12,900
Why do you think and this is
something we discuss with both

1183
01:09:12,900 --> 01:09:15,870
of our guests of the way that
the intelligence community

1184
01:09:15,870 --> 01:09:20,460
handled the so called Russia
dossier? And overall, how do you

1185
01:09:20,460 --> 01:09:23,370
think of the way they've handled
Donald Trump? I think what's

1186
01:09:23,370 --> 01:09:27,750
underreported? Here is Trump's
point of view on it. And you

1187
01:09:27,780 --> 01:09:33,270
laid it out when those former
CIA people said these things

1188
01:09:33,270 --> 01:09:39,360
about Trump that he was a
recruited agent of the Russia is

1189
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,290
full full. Yeah. And a useful
fool. I mean, they started this

1190
01:09:43,530 --> 01:09:50,340
and in Trump's mind, he knows
the old adage once the CIA man

1191
01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:54,420
always the CIA man, and no one
came out and said those people

1192
01:09:54,420 --> 01:09:59,130
shouldn't be saying things so
then act two is the briefing

1193
01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:05,580
when this dossier is put out.
I've lived in this world for 45

1194
01:10:05,580 --> 01:10:09,570
years where you get things and
people make allegations, that is

1195
01:10:09,570 --> 01:10:15,090
a garbage document and never
should have been presented in is

1196
01:10:15,090 --> 01:10:18,660
part of an intelligence
briefing, as you suggested other

1197
01:10:18,660 --> 01:10:23,310
channels, have the White House
Counsel give it to Trump's

1198
01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:29,190
Incoming White House Counsel. So
Trump's right to be upset about

1199
01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:32,940
that. And I think if you've
looked at the real chronology

1200
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:37,020
and the nature of the battle
here, those intelligence chiefs

1201
01:10:37,020 --> 01:10:40,800
who are the best we've had, who
were terrific and have done

1202
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:45,180
great work, made a mistake here.
And when people make mistakes,

1203
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:46,470
they should apologize.

1204
01:10:46,530 --> 01:10:48,870
Yeah, it would be nice if he
said that on some

1205
01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:52,380
Wow, LD guy give me a borderline
Tip of the day for bringing that

1206
01:10:52,380 --> 01:10:58,860
one to the fore. And we know you
know he has he is in the fraud.

1207
01:10:59,580 --> 01:11:03,930
All that we can figure out he is
a CIA guy. Totally. So he's not

1208
01:11:03,930 --> 01:11:06,900
coming out to I would just want
to remind people, he's not

1209
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:10,950
coming out just on his just
yakking away about something he

1210
01:11:11,460 --> 01:11:15,450
just casually he's been given
the go ahead to do this. Do

1211
01:11:15,450 --> 01:11:19,140
this. Yeah. So there's something
there. That may be what you

1212
01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:22,230
talked about earlier, because we
know Brennan's just a douchebag

1213
01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:25,830
or the guy, you know, just Obama
appointee have pencil pusher,

1214
01:11:25,950 --> 01:11:30,540
and it could be the rank and
file. The second you know, that

1215
01:11:30,540 --> 01:11:33,810
second or third tier people to
give given him the go ahead to

1216
01:11:33,810 --> 01:11:39,210
do this. Which means that
they're maybe not as antiTrump

1217
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:44,760
over as you suggested. Yeah. As
I said, which is, would it and

1218
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,880
Glenn Greenwald suggested that
the whole agencies just hates

1219
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,650
Trump, but it may not be true

1220
01:11:49,650 --> 01:11:54,690
may not be that bad. Well, with
that, I'd like to thank you for

1221
01:11:54,690 --> 01:11:58,650
your courage and today in the
morning to you John C. C stands

1222
01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:01,650
for Chelsea Manning commutation
Devorah egg

1223
01:12:02,130 --> 01:12:06,330
in the morning to you Mr. Adam
curry also in the morning all

1224
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,950
ships at sea boots on the ground
feet in the air and subs in the

1225
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:11,370
water and

1226
01:12:12,510 --> 01:12:16,200
and in the morning to all of our
listeners on the stream no

1227
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,900
agenda stream.com Thank you very
much for hanging in there during

1228
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:22,410
our delayed start of the
program. In the morning to

1229
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:26,550
PacMan retro he brought us the
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1230
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:31,920
or five Yes We Can the title of
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1231
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:36,570
agenda sign says no small
aircraft. No hot tubs. Stay

1232
01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:42,060
safe. I like that a lot. And
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01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:44,010
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1235
01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:50,550
love looking at the art after
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1236
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:52,320
course that's why we get the
credit when you do it.

1237
01:12:53,730 --> 01:12:56,700
Well, we have one executive
producer for this show, which is

1238
01:12:56,700 --> 01:13:02,760
show 896 for more shows away
from the fabulous show 900 And

1239
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,240
you have to imagine that's
pretty big deal. Yeah. And it's

1240
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,110
two years away from your watch
and 900,000 Yeah, it'd be almost

1241
01:13:10,110 --> 01:13:17,070
over a year from now we'll do it
show 1000 Wow Bruce Wilkie in a

1242
01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:19,260
I'm gonna give you a Ted see if
you can pronounce this.

1243
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,250
Okay, I would say PL up

1244
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,400
wrong. Okay, it's Paul up

1245
01:13:26,430 --> 01:13:29,790
Paul up. Oh, interesting. Pui.
wallop good.

1246
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,750
Yeah, pui a ll up it's an Indian
tribe it yes it is pronounced

1247
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:40,170
Paul up. At least they pronounce
it Paul up and follow up. You

1248
01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:44,970
I've had her pronounced poo all
up. But Paul up is the follow up

1249
01:13:44,970 --> 01:13:49,380
sounds good. Sound is an easier
way to pronounce it. Anyway 300

1250
01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:53,160
bucks. Washington that's in
Washington State law with a

1251
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,510
number of other silly sounding
towns. Hey guys, is Bruce here.

1252
01:13:57,540 --> 01:13:59,190
The face bag jingle guy.

1253
01:13:59,220 --> 01:14:07,440
Oh, hold on this that's the one
No way. I think this is the one

1254
01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:08,670
it's not it. Now this is it.

1255
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:17,460
When Adam needs to make an
example of some typical slaves,

1256
01:14:18,090 --> 01:14:23,520
he just reads the comments on
their Facebook page on Facebook.

1257
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,710
gone on some brain cells
Faceman.

1258
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,120
I put that in the end of the
show. forgotten about that one?

1259
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,300
Not sure if you guys saw my
tweet, but I dropped some no

1260
01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:39,540
agenda on these liberal
Christians at a live podcast

1261
01:14:39,540 --> 01:14:43,980
called Ask science make. Oh,
he's not a scientist and just

1262
01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:49,350
waxes poetic about his feelings.
Entire show was a Trump cry a

1263
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:54,060
Trump cry fest. If the four
minutes why are you listening to

1264
01:14:54,060 --> 01:14:58,800
this? He says For I always get a
kick out of this guys who hate

1265
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,630
my columns. I read your column
six times. And I hate to use

1266
01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:08,880
think I hate it. 54 minutes in,
I dropped some value for value

1267
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,290
info on them. And then he's got
a link I guess. Okay. And then

1268
01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:15,180
he asked John, when you're going
to do a meetup here in the

1269
01:15:15,180 --> 01:15:18,090
Pacific Northwest, keep up the
great work. I'm also calling out

1270
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:23,370
just in heart Ford, or Hartford
as a douchebag.

1271
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:30,720
Not as WE DON'T HAVE A BONER
jingle. So does the car meet the

1272
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,410
only executive producer today so
might as well you've got karma.

1273
01:15:34,410 --> 01:15:37,110
Here you go. You,

1274
01:15:38,850 --> 01:15:44,970
Johnny of the swamp in
Washington DC. Do 3457 Funny

1275
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:48,660
it'd be Associate Executive
Producer for show 896 Thank you,

1276
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:51,240
John and Adam for making the
best podcast in the universe.

1277
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,890
Please accept my overdue
donation of 23457 on side 23457

1278
01:15:55,890 --> 01:15:59,010
Not six. As I have been
freeloading, a freeloading

1279
01:15:59,010 --> 01:16:03,150
douchebag for too long, 10 years
ago as a listener to the seed

1280
01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:06,870
man, but it was too hard to take
him seriously. And I was always

1281
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:09,120
looking for an alternative
perspective about the media

1282
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,290
manipulation that was more
grounded. I'm very happy to have

1283
01:16:13,290 --> 01:16:16,080
found no agenda during the
election cycle for keeping my

1284
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,590
sanity, especially since I am
deep in the heart of the swamp.

1285
01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:25,050
I eagerly support the inaugural
Eve episode. Johnny, this one.

1286
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:30,480
The seed man has asked me to
drop by tomorrow during the

1287
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:31,350
inauguration.

1288
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,570
Oh, you can do a little? Yeah,

1289
01:16:33,570 --> 01:16:36,450
I'll do that. The tickets didn't
come through. That didn't

1290
01:16:36,450 --> 01:16:40,050
happen. So. Oh, yeah. No juice.
No juice.

1291
01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:46,950
No, hold on a second. You were
listed? Yeah. On some website is

1292
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:54,360
one of the celebrities. That was
that supported Trump supported

1293
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,520
Trump even though you really
didn't you just you kind of

1294
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,820
supported truth. You supported
around Trump. Yeah, you think

1295
01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:05,580
that they would have had done
enough research to find you and

1296
01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:10,380
then give you a ticket? Yeah,
not happening. Johnny, the swamp

1297
01:17:10,380 --> 01:17:13,350
says as a PS is a little bird
told me that BuzzFeed is getting

1298
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:14,730
no press credentials this
Friday.

1299
01:17:14,730 --> 01:17:18,660
Well, you recall that I also
that we heard and before all

1300
01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:22,200
this, this press moving to a
different building happen, that

1301
01:17:23,310 --> 01:17:26,610
the Trump administration will be
evaluating all press credentials

1302
01:17:26,610 --> 01:17:29,250
every month to see if someone
should be invited back or not?

1303
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,930
Well, I think they do that
anyway. I don't believe for a

1304
01:17:33,930 --> 01:17:35,310
minute that they don't do that.

1305
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,570
I'm sure I'm sure that they
don't call on people for sure.

1306
01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:43,080
Like you're a douche. Yeah. Let
me give Johnny of the swamp

1307
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,410
little karma. Although he didn't
ask for it. You've got

1308
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:51,750
complimentary karma today. And
re lat Obama's last day in

1309
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:54,180
office. We're getting
complimented karma. And I have

1310
01:17:54,180 --> 01:17:54,990
no agenda show.

1311
01:17:55,050 --> 01:17:59,070
And I do want to welcome all of
our new listener. We have new

1312
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:02,550
new listeners soon to be
producers who caught me on the

1313
01:18:02,550 --> 01:18:05,670
seat, man. They sent me email.
They're happy they found us. So

1314
01:18:05,670 --> 01:18:06,180
it's great.

1315
01:18:07,230 --> 01:18:10,200
I like that. Well, you have to
keep doing it. Yeah, I will

1316
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,440
always delete completely. Get as

1317
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,070
I like it. There is an
interesting group of people. You

1318
01:18:17,070 --> 01:18:17,400
like it

1319
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,490
because the guy's doing the job
that he that people should be

1320
01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:24,180
doing. He's just he's doing it
right. He's not just some, you

1321
01:18:24,180 --> 01:18:27,150
know, guy in his basement doing
it like we are just doing a

1322
01:18:27,150 --> 01:18:29,820
simple podcast. He's selling
stuff. Yeah, he's selling

1323
01:18:29,820 --> 01:18:31,950
stuff. And he's giving us
important information. My

1324
01:18:31,980 --> 01:18:36,480
god for 25 years, they've been
growing babies and cows

1325
01:18:36,510 --> 01:18:38,160
I'm saying Indeed.

1326
01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:42,780
Second associate and lastly,
Associate Executive Producer for

1327
01:18:42,780 --> 01:18:49,170
show 896 is Ron Norton and
Vleuten Netherlands float and

1328
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:55,110
float a float and near Utrecht.
Its new near your attraction to

1329
01:18:55,110 --> 01:19:00,870
a 160 since donating last is
April 2016. I felt a huge

1330
01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:04,740
douchebag I feel like a huge
douchebag for receiving all this

1331
01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:08,250
value for value and it was time
to step up again. The universe

1332
01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:11,520
has called me several times the
strongest last September when

1333
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,420
visiting Las Vegas for an SAP
tech ed conference together with

1334
01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:20,040
a friend and co worker worker
Ronald who is still a douche bag

1335
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,900
for never donating food bag.
boarding the plane from

1336
01:19:24,900 --> 01:19:29,700
Amsterdam and seating in seating
in row 33 was the first signal

1337
01:19:30,330 --> 01:19:33,330
getting back in just a big plane
getting mac and cheese for

1338
01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:37,260
dinner. Okay universe you made
yourself clear. That's another

1339
01:19:37,260 --> 01:19:39,780
as you went on the plane and got
on the seat 33 And they gave him

1340
01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:40,890
a mac and cheese.

1341
01:19:43,650 --> 01:19:45,690
Time to donate for sure let's

1342
01:19:45,690 --> 01:19:50,070
say and then the kicker he says
having a look at Neil deGrasse

1343
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,940
Tyson during the in flight
entertainment made it clear time

1344
01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:54,600
to donate

1345
01:19:54,630 --> 01:20:01,290
Oh man. What was he doing is he
have some kind of a Have some

1346
01:20:01,290 --> 01:20:01,530
kind

1347
01:20:01,530 --> 01:20:08,820
of guy rain cloud over his head?
Elon, the amount to a 160 is

1348
01:20:08,820 --> 01:20:13,710
what the SLS was Zanza lots of
sands no SLS and sands less

1349
01:20:13,710 --> 01:20:14,430
known SLS

1350
01:20:14,430 --> 01:20:17,820
hotel in Vegas tried to
overcharge me in resort fee

1351
01:20:19,529 --> 01:20:22,109
oh that's interesting. It's
about they very much please

1352
01:20:22,109 --> 01:20:25,919
continue your efforts debunking
the media BS Can I get a was he

1353
01:20:25,919 --> 01:20:27,089
got here for a request? Why

1354
01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:30,870
do millennials cry? I don't know
what that is. This a second time

1355
01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:35,580
somebody's Why do millennials
cry asked for this. Right.

1356
01:20:35,610 --> 01:20:37,530
Somebody else asked for this
right? Right. Right, right.

1357
01:20:37,530 --> 01:20:39,990
I don't remember anyone asking
for this. I think it was last

1358
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:42,330
show somebody had this guy.
Well, someone asked to tell I

1359
01:20:42,330 --> 01:20:44,940
got the mac and cheese stuff for
him. which I'll do now. Even mac

1360
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:47,760
and cheese. Slaves can get the
Mac into

1361
01:20:48,030 --> 01:20:52,860
a mac and cheese. Macaroni and
Cheese shatter melted together

1362
01:20:52,890 --> 01:20:58,800
mac and cheese mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese like mac and

1363
01:20:58,800 --> 01:20:59,400
cheese

1364
01:20:59,430 --> 01:21:03,480
by Iran. You've got karma.

1365
01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:07,740
Hold on a second chat room was
trying to help out here. They

1366
01:21:07,740 --> 01:21:13,410
say it's was a prince cover? Why
demonios crybaby

1367
01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:18,990
may be I don't remember it?
Well, we're gonna have to have

1368
01:21:18,990 --> 01:21:19,680
it resolved or

1369
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,150
someone will help us out. Okay.

1370
01:21:22,230 --> 01:21:26,940
That concludes our group.
People. Yeah, crap. Happens.

1371
01:21:27,930 --> 01:21:31,620
Quick PR mentioned here.
Excellent if it's really

1372
01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:35,040
mentioned, but I got a note from
Jeff and Calgary. Adam, we

1373
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,320
haven't seen any no agenda
inauguration meet up. Let me

1374
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,400
know if you have anything. I'll
be with DC 911. Truth at 7am. I

1375
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,470
know the seed guy will be
roaming around with his info

1376
01:21:43,470 --> 01:21:45,780
warriors. Other than that, I
haven't heard anything. Haven't

1377
01:21:45,780 --> 01:21:49,050
seen much activity from the
Oathkeepers. Surprising. Okay,

1378
01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:52,980
let me know what's going on. So
I think there's a number of

1379
01:21:52,980 --> 01:21:57,930
people who will be in DC, please
try and organize it meetup.com.

1380
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,350
See if you can get that to get
something together. I think it'd

1381
01:22:01,350 --> 01:22:03,780
be cool the number of people who
listened to the show who will be

1382
01:22:03,780 --> 01:22:07,470
there. And we also have a boots
on the ground guy. And yeah,

1383
01:22:07,470 --> 01:22:10,830
that was doing some video and
they'll be fun. Definitely got

1384
01:22:10,830 --> 01:22:14,760
some stuff. Thank you very much
to our sole executive producer

1385
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,610
and our Associate Executive
Producers actual credits, you

1386
01:22:17,610 --> 01:22:19,950
can use them anywhere. They're
very effective if you use them

1387
01:22:19,950 --> 01:22:22,140
on your LinkedIn page, because
you look like an executive

1388
01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:25,830
producer, which you are. And
we'll be thinking more people

1389
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:29,220
who came in with $50 or above
later on the program. And

1390
01:22:29,220 --> 01:22:31,140
remember, we got another show
coming up on Sunday, where of

1391
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:33,270
course, we will deconstruct
everything that went on in

1392
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:38,460
Friday. Remember us at
vora.org/n A And while you're

1393
01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:41,520
down there in DC, why don't you
go get the formula?

1394
01:22:42,510 --> 01:23:00,450
Our formula is this. We go out,
we hit people in the mouth. Now

1395
01:23:00,450 --> 01:23:00,900
ready?

1396
01:23:01,860 --> 01:23:06,300
I have a little aside here. You
know there's one show that

1397
01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:10,830
people cite a lot. And it is and
it's kind of competitive with

1398
01:23:10,830 --> 01:23:14,580
our show. Although it doesn't.
It's not really Oh, I can't wait

1399
01:23:14,580 --> 01:23:18,330
to hear this. Well, you've heard
the show us call on the media.

1400
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,920
Oh, it's not at all. Not at all
like our show.

1401
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,530
No, it's not at all like our
show. But people like to compare

1402
01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:28,590
it to our show because they do
media get deconstruction and

1403
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:32,550
sometimes they do it well. But I
always felt it was like

1404
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:36,180
everything else that you run
into on NPR. It was in some way

1405
01:23:36,180 --> 01:23:41,280
or other slanted. And it was
just another couple of liberals

1406
01:23:42,030 --> 01:23:44,940
going on and on about stuff that
the way they see it not

1407
01:23:44,940 --> 01:23:47,940
completely in the other
dimension. But I may take that

1408
01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:50,430
back. They may be in the other
dimension that you always talk

1409
01:23:50,430 --> 01:23:54,540
about. When you hear one of the
two hosts. In this particular

1410
01:23:54,540 --> 01:23:58,380
clip, which is the on the media
depressed do declares on the

1411
01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:00,240
media. I'm Brooke Gladstone hype
and

1412
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,660
I'm Bob Garfield, in our
editorial meeting this week,

1413
01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:06,360
even through the speakerphone
connecting me with the team in

1414
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:12,840
New York. The staff detected in
my voice a slight suicidal

1415
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:18,870
despondent. Why so glum chum?
They wanted to know and I said

1416
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,050
it's just that we're also it's
hard to drag my sorry self out

1417
01:24:25,050 --> 01:24:30,270
of bed in the morning. This is
when producer Alana Casanova

1418
01:24:30,270 --> 01:24:35,220
Burgess chimed in. Bob Have you
read hope in the dark. She was

1419
01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:39,030
referring to the book of
encouragement and call to action

1420
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:43,050
by left wing activist
philosopher Rebecca Solnit, who

1421
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:48,270
expresses optimism about the
future based not on naivete or

1422
01:24:48,270 --> 01:24:53,220
denial. But on lessons of
history. Solnit is impatient

1423
01:24:53,250 --> 01:24:57,120
with despair, not only because
it paralyzes political action,

1424
01:24:57,630 --> 01:25:01,500
but because she says it is
historic Clean indefensible

1425
01:25:03,659 --> 01:25:07,409
historically indefensible, well,
this whatever she says he's that

1426
01:25:07,409 --> 01:25:08,969
Nazi reference or what is

1427
01:25:08,999 --> 01:25:12,899
I don't know No, I don't think
so. But this guy then does an

1428
01:25:12,899 --> 01:25:16,079
interview with her and they talk
back and forth and he asked just

1429
01:25:16,109 --> 01:25:19,469
to earnestly to have a read from
the beginning of first chapter,

1430
01:25:19,499 --> 01:25:20,399
who was she again,

1431
01:25:21,119 --> 01:25:24,209
she's a she's actually a local
around here, she's, I think, in

1432
01:25:24,209 --> 01:25:27,659
San Francisco, Berkeley. She's a
writer, you should look her up.

1433
01:25:28,859 --> 01:25:33,179
First of all, Solnit Sol ne t,
just look at her. She is a

1434
01:25:33,209 --> 01:25:37,409
unreconstructed hippie. She's
about 70. She looks like a

1435
01:25:37,409 --> 01:25:41,699
depressive. And so but she's
really uplifting in this book.

1436
01:25:42,029 --> 01:25:46,889
And so they have a read from it.
And I want you to hear her in

1437
01:25:46,889 --> 01:25:51,269
the second clip, because this is
a person that is, I think,

1438
01:25:51,269 --> 01:25:54,479
definitely in a different
dimension. Because if anybody

1439
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,389
thinks that this is a her, she's
reading from the book in her

1440
01:25:57,389 --> 01:26:01,379
uplifting way, much like if you
went to a speech where some guy

1441
01:26:01,379 --> 01:26:04,079
was just getting you all riled
up, and it was, you know, he

1442
01:26:04,079 --> 01:26:06,719
went out to sell some product
or, you know, on behalf of the

1443
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:10,769
company, and he or she goes,
tell me how good you feel after

1444
01:26:10,769 --> 01:26:11,639
listening to this.

1445
01:26:11,670 --> 01:26:15,030
And there's mutual wailing about
how bad everything was a

1446
01:26:15,030 --> 01:26:18,420
recitation of the evidence
against us. One exciting

1447
01:26:18,420 --> 01:26:21,930
opportunity the left offers us
as of being your own prosecutor

1448
01:26:22,890 --> 01:26:25,950
that just buried any hope and
imagination down in a dank

1449
01:26:25,950 --> 01:26:29,850
little foxhole of curled up
despair. Now I watch people

1450
01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:33,510
having it wondering what it is
we get from it. The certainty of

1451
01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:36,780
despair is even that kind of
certainty, so worth pursuing.

1452
01:26:37,290 --> 01:26:40,590
Stories trap us stories for
years, we live and die by

1453
01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:44,190
stories, but hearing people have
the conversation is hearing them

1454
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,340
tell themselves a story they
believe is being told to them.

1455
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,060
What other stories can be told
how do people recognize that

1456
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:53,610
they have the power to be
storytellers, not just

1457
01:26:53,610 --> 01:26:54,390
listeners.

1458
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:59,010
Oh, hold on a second. shoot
myself in the head after that.

1459
01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:02,910
Here's a here's a here's a
better way of of listener

1460
01:27:02,910 --> 01:27:03,240
yelling

1461
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,260
about how bad everything was. A
recitation of evidence against

1462
01:27:07,260 --> 01:27:09,840
this looks perfect.

1463
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:15,600
Wow, she's she's No wonder she's
depressed. Oh, my goodness.

1464
01:27:16,980 --> 01:27:21,720
Anyway, so this to me is the
again, this is not an objective,

1465
01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:26,130
an objective show, and I don't
see how anyone could get

1466
01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:29,220
anything positive out of it. If
this is the kind of, again, it

1467
01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:31,950
sounds like you're in this other
dimension, because this is not

1468
01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:35,580
an uplifting little spiel, by
any means. This is Jesus's

1469
01:27:35,610 --> 01:27:36,690
pressing person. This

1470
01:27:36,690 --> 01:27:41,430
is rampant. John, this is
rampant. And the other

1471
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:44,640
dimension. I certainly don't
live in that dimension, but I

1472
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,510
can visit it. They are
desperately hoping that

1473
01:27:48,510 --> 01:27:52,140
something happens. I think
that's why the CNN MPs Oh, we

1474
01:27:52,140 --> 01:27:55,590
can't even stand losing the
Obamas and the Clintons. Okay.

1475
01:27:56,190 --> 01:27:58,830
It'd be a loss, but at least
Trump wouldn't be president.

1476
01:27:59,820 --> 01:28:04,020
That's what's going on here.
People wishing death, and Ill

1477
01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:04,650
will

1478
01:28:05,790 --> 01:28:09,360
try. No, they want everyone
dead. They themselves seem to be

1479
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:17,490
somewhat dead. Now. I can barely
get out of bed. Hello, normal

1480
01:28:17,490 --> 01:28:20,940
person in this situation with
this show on the media. They

1481
01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:23,280
would have said holy crap, we're
going to have nothing but great

1482
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,090
material.

1483
01:28:24,660 --> 01:28:27,360
That's what we that's what we
said, yeah. Oh, it doesn't

1484
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,520
matter who wins. We're happy to
show go

1485
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,120
on forever. But no, they're so
invested in the political

1486
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,990
system. So their whole
personalities tied up in being a

1487
01:28:36,990 --> 01:28:37,530
Democrat. I

1488
01:28:37,530 --> 01:28:40,140
know. There's an interesting
piece in Politico, while

1489
01:28:40,140 --> 01:28:43,140
actually in may not was that
interesting, but it's being

1490
01:28:43,170 --> 01:28:47,040
passed around the face bags a
lot. And the title of it is he

1491
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,880
has this deep fear that he is
not a legitimate president. And

1492
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:56,370
what politico did is they
brought in 1234354 or five

1493
01:28:56,370 --> 01:29:01,560
journalists who were on the on
the beat, who covered Trump, who

1494
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,760
covered him in 2000. And just
covering all the time, and so

1495
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:10,080
they give their opinion about
him. And the headline comes from

1496
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,150
from one of these journalists
who just just up and says that

1497
01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:18,270
with no with no actual find the
piece here

1498
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,730
with no backup with no proof
with no,

1499
01:29:24,030 --> 01:29:28,890
it's not even that. Here he is.
He's always this is for the

1500
01:29:29,340 --> 01:29:33,570
Dantonio whoever that guy is
Dantonio. What's his first name?

1501
01:29:34,140 --> 01:29:39,450
Anyway, Dantonio says this is a
person who has never known

1502
01:29:39,450 --> 01:29:44,580
whether anybody wants to be
around him. I'm gonna second

1503
01:29:46,980 --> 01:29:49,740
here it is. He has always kind
of gaming the system not in my

1504
01:29:49,740 --> 01:29:52,470
view, winning on the merits and
even his election was with

1505
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:55,410
almost 3 million fewer votes
than his opponents. So he has

1506
01:29:55,410 --> 01:29:57,930
this deep fear that he is
himself not a legitimate

1507
01:29:57,930 --> 01:30:00,930
president. And I think that's
why he goes to such great

1508
01:30:00,930 --> 01:30:04,620
lengths to D legitimize even the
intelligence community. So

1509
01:30:04,620 --> 01:30:08,790
that's just conjecture. But
every single journalist who and

1510
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:12,480
I don't know if they taped audio
My God would love to hear what

1511
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,660
they were talking about. Every
single one is bitching

1512
01:30:15,690 --> 01:30:19,110
consistently about one issue.
And you know what it is?

1513
01:30:19,410 --> 01:30:25,200
Twitter. They cannot stand that
he goes around them. They can't

1514
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:30,000
stand it. That is that is the
number one problem. The hate it.

1515
01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:33,840
It's not protocol. It's not
tradition.

1516
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:37,860
Yeah, well, they're the
conservatives.

1517
01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:45,150
And Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone
magazine who I like, I don't

1518
01:30:45,150 --> 01:30:47,310
know him personally, it seems
actually seems personally seemed

1519
01:30:47,310 --> 01:30:50,220
like a douchebag. But the stuff
he's written about financial

1520
01:30:50,220 --> 01:30:52,500
crimes and Rolling Stone
magazine had been nothing short

1521
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:56,340
of stellar. He's probably the
only guy who really does

1522
01:30:56,340 --> 01:31:02,430
anything. So anything of that
level of speaking truth to

1523
01:31:02,430 --> 01:31:05,610
power, and of course, it goes
largely unnoticed because he's

1524
01:31:05,610 --> 01:31:08,640
Rolling Stone magazine who gives
a crap. And then he went off to

1525
01:31:08,730 --> 01:31:13,140
the $250 million WordPress blog,
and that was horrible. You

1526
01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:13,980
recall, and then he's,

1527
01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:16,230
yeah, he didn't last there. No,
two weeks, I

1528
01:31:16,230 --> 01:31:19,680
think because what he lost the
match. So I think it was a CBC

1529
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,590
Canadian Broadcasting who went
and interviewed him in New York,

1530
01:31:22,710 --> 01:31:28,500
and it focused mainly on Putin,
Trump, their connection, etc.

1531
01:31:28,530 --> 01:31:31,170
You lived and worked in Russia
for a long time. What's your

1532
01:31:31,170 --> 01:31:32,790
take? Did you know that he
worked in Russia?

1533
01:31:34,170 --> 01:31:37,800
I believe he was working with
Russia on this on this magazine

1534
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:42,840
with Mark Ames. Who I like even
better than Ty EV I think Mark

1535
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,170
Ames is just dynamite
investigative reporter and he's,

1536
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,890
he's more. He's more neutral
politically. When he in his

1537
01:31:49,890 --> 01:31:53,700
writing, then Jeb who's very
much of a Democrat, you lived

1538
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:55,200
and worked in Russia for a long
time. What

1539
01:31:55,230 --> 01:31:58,830
What's your take on all of that?
Is he a puppet of Putin?

1540
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:02,580
Well, it's very hard to say. And
I lived in Russia for a long

1541
01:32:02,580 --> 01:32:07,650
time. I personally remember
Putin destroying government

1542
01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:11,340
officials with sex tapes. I was
there. I remember watching him

1543
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:16,290
when he was the FSB chief, give
an analysis of a sex tape

1544
01:32:16,290 --> 01:32:18,750
involving a character named Yuri
Scara. He's

1545
01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:22,740
a little confused. I think it's
FSB now but he was a KGB then.

1546
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,170
It wasn't a chief. No, he

1547
01:32:25,170 --> 01:32:26,250
was certainly wasn't a chief.

1548
01:32:26,970 --> 01:32:29,640
They've done this over and over
again in their past. And you'll

1549
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,070
hear Matt Taibbi has a lot of
things wrong, but he's just

1550
01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:34,620
heard, you know, just as he's
regurgitating these,

1551
01:32:34,620 --> 01:32:37,650
the two of them were living in
Russia as a couple of of

1552
01:32:37,650 --> 01:32:40,830
troublemakers. And they I think
they got run out of the country,

1553
01:32:40,830 --> 01:32:41,220
probably

1554
01:32:41,220 --> 01:32:42,150
Oh, that would make

1555
01:32:42,150 --> 01:32:46,650
sense. So this is something they
do. However, there's really no

1556
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:52,140
concrete evidence still, that
Trump is involved in any of the

1557
01:32:52,140 --> 01:32:56,220
shenanigans that have been
alleged. You know, there's some

1558
01:32:56,220 --> 01:32:59,970
evidence for one side of this
equation, which is about Putin's

1559
01:32:59,970 --> 01:33:02,520
meddling in the electoral
process and hacking the

1560
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,400
Democratic National Committee
and there are there are experts

1561
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,630
who have reasons for believing
that he did that, but are better

1562
01:33:09,630 --> 01:33:13,410
good reasons. But there's really
no concrete evidence that Trump

1563
01:33:13,410 --> 01:33:17,220
is in on it in any way or that
he was anything other than a

1564
01:33:17,220 --> 01:33:21,750
moronic beneficiary of
geopolitical whimsy.

1565
01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:24,240
I like moronic beneficiary,

1566
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:26,520
a geopolitical whimsy,

1567
01:33:28,110 --> 01:33:33,420
beneficiary, moronic beneficiary
type, he has a right though he,

1568
01:33:34,050 --> 01:33:38,100
he's a he prizes himself as an
actual journalist. He says if I

1569
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:41,100
can't prove it, I can't write
about it. If I have no backup, I

1570
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:43,740
can't write about it. And he
says that has created a two tier

1571
01:33:43,740 --> 01:33:46,710
system of media. Certainly here
in the United States of Gitmo

1572
01:33:46,710 --> 01:33:47,430
nation, we've

1573
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:50,550
had this problem now for over a
decade in America, which is that

1574
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:53,910
we have two tiers of the media,
we have this sort of clickbait

1575
01:33:54,510 --> 01:33:57,570
internet tear where anything
goes and all kinds of material

1576
01:33:57,570 --> 01:34:00,300
circulates and it's been
accelerated by the social media.

1577
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:03,390
And then we have this upper tier
what we call the legacy media

1578
01:34:03,390 --> 01:34:05,940
where theoretically we don't do
things like that we check we

1579
01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:09,690
verify we don't put things that
are, you know, dubious or

1580
01:34:09,690 --> 01:34:13,290
knowingly untrue. But what we're
allowing them to do now is Ping

1581
01:34:13,290 --> 01:34:16,980
Pong back and forth. You know,
the the legacy media reports on

1582
01:34:16,980 --> 01:34:22,290
the on the, the less legitimate
media all the time. So it's an

1583
01:34:22,290 --> 01:34:25,620
end run around the old
protections, and we've had a

1584
01:34:25,620 --> 01:34:27,060
breakdown. And because of that

1585
01:34:27,900 --> 01:34:32,760
he's forgetting the third tier,
which is us who deconstruct the

1586
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:33,390
mainstream.

1587
01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:39,780
Well, I think we don't really
account we there's not enough of

1588
01:34:39,810 --> 01:34:44,490
us, the two of us, that took
account for being a tear now,

1589
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,950
which assumes that there's a lot
of people I think, what he were

1590
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:50,100
more like, native advertising.
That's what he should be talking

1591
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:50,640
about. Yeah, he

1592
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,880
didn't mention that at all. But
he didn't follow up on this. And

1593
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,250
you know, if you report you're
damned if you do damned if you

1594
01:34:56,250 --> 01:34:56,460
don't.

1595
01:34:56,670 --> 01:35:00,810
Well, and there's this
phenomenon of fake news. Where's

1596
01:35:00,810 --> 01:35:03,480
the line between the fake news
propaganda, The Real News? I

1597
01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:05,640
mean, how on earth the world is
changing,

1598
01:35:05,670 --> 01:35:08,250
it's extremely difficult because
it's very hard for journalists

1599
01:35:08,250 --> 01:35:11,430
to pretend that they're that,
for instance, there's a news

1600
01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:14,370
story that everybody's talking
about that you can't confirm.

1601
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,550
How do you report on that? If
you can't confirm the the core

1602
01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:20,790
allegation, that's in the story,
but it's news everywhere, and

1603
01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:24,150
everyone's talking about it. You
can't not cover it. On the other

1604
01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:27,240
hand, you can't really cover it
either. So it's a it's a

1605
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,300
difficult thing. In the old
days, a story like this probably

1606
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:32,370
would never have appeared in the
network's it wouldn't have been

1607
01:35:32,370 --> 01:35:34,590
in the New York Times, it
wouldn't have been in CNN.

1608
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,960
And we've referred to how the
media loves to choose our

1609
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,620
presidents for us by
highlighting some incredible

1610
01:35:43,620 --> 01:35:45,900
Gaff. Here's Toby on that

1611
01:35:45,930 --> 01:35:49,110
we've had this this tradition in
our campaign journalism, going

1612
01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:52,770
back for quite a while now where
when a candidate slips up, does

1613
01:35:52,770 --> 01:35:56,100
something dumb, we immediately
sort of swirl around the

1614
01:35:56,100 --> 01:36:00,150
candidate and announced that
that person is no longer a

1615
01:36:00,150 --> 01:36:03,810
legitimate and viable
politician. Yeah, the media, we

1616
01:36:03,810 --> 01:36:06,660
in the media, we do that we do
that to people like our dean.

1617
01:36:08,010 --> 01:36:11,370
Gary Hart was another senator
had an affair

1618
01:36:11,370 --> 01:36:15,180
of that one. And isn't it crazy
that how long ago was that?

1619
01:36:16,230 --> 01:36:19,530
That was in that was four years
before?

1620
01:36:20,129 --> 01:36:23,279
Before Obama, so that was 2004.

1621
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,480
I think it was 2001. could be it
could be

1622
01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:32,610
gore. Yeah. And one one screen
that noise disqualified the guy?

1623
01:36:33,330 --> 01:36:38,070
Well, kinda what it did is it
nothing disqualifies the guy as

1624
01:36:38,070 --> 01:36:41,850
Trump has proven. But what it
did to me because I remember

1625
01:36:41,850 --> 01:36:46,830
this guy very, very well. For
one thing, he was tucked up he

1626
01:36:46,830 --> 01:36:48,900
was on the cover of all the
magazines. He was going to be

1627
01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:51,930
the next president. It was a
done deal. Right. And he

1628
01:36:52,590 --> 01:36:54,990
he got honey potted man with
Donna rice.

1629
01:36:57,150 --> 01:36:59,010
It talking about hard. I'm
talking about

1630
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,920
the screw. Oh, and I'm sorry.
Yes, Dean.

1631
01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:09,540
So this guy was Dean. So he was
getting a lot of this is all Joe

1632
01:37:09,540 --> 01:37:13,080
Trippi by the way. Who was the I
remember, the guy who was

1633
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,760
running this this campaign. He
was a shoo in. And it actually

1634
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,810
had to me i i think he was
killed before he did that stupid

1635
01:37:21,810 --> 01:37:24,510
scream because he's starting to
let it go. Because there were

1636
01:37:24,510 --> 01:37:27,090
Whitey lose this election that
he do that screen because he

1637
01:37:27,090 --> 01:37:29,700
lost some primary a big one. And
he's gonna win all these other

1638
01:37:29,700 --> 01:37:33,240
states and he screams. It was
when he finally showed up

1639
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,320
because he was discussed on the
print media constantly. And then

1640
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,680
he shows up and I believe is on
the Carson Show or lannoy. I

1641
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,890
can't remember who was running
it at the time. But he comes out

1642
01:37:43,890 --> 01:37:48,540
on one of these mid late night
talk shows. And he comes out

1643
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:54,600
kind of hunched over and he has
this red tie on that I swear to

1644
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:58,020
God, at least the way I
remember. It was down to his

1645
01:37:58,020 --> 01:37:58,800
knees

1646
01:37:59,250 --> 01:38:02,880
to tie too long. Bad luck. Trump
does that too. He has his ties

1647
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:03,420
are too long.

1648
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:06,600
Well, he anyway comes out with a
stupid tie. Then he kind of he's

1649
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,570
being interviewed. He's a
goofball. Now, he's an obvious

1650
01:38:09,570 --> 01:38:12,630
goofball. This guy's not going
to be president. He was already

1651
01:38:12,630 --> 01:38:15,930
handed down to me for the screen
was just the closer that was the

1652
01:38:15,930 --> 01:38:18,780
and I was like, I got it. But
that's not the reason I can

1653
01:38:18,780 --> 01:38:19,230
assure you.

1654
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:22,800
Then we get a little insight on
wrapping it up here a little

1655
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:28,500
insight into the press corps
traveling with the president and

1656
01:38:28,500 --> 01:38:30,780
where he was in the pecking
order.

1657
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,410
You compare the media to the
mean girls that have there?

1658
01:38:35,130 --> 01:38:39,600
Yeah, really? Yeah. I mean, I've
been on the campaign plane and

1659
01:38:40,050 --> 01:38:42,540
I've been one of the unpopular
kids has been banished to the

1660
01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:46,440
back of the plane to sit with
the techies. You know, there are

1661
01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:50,760
there are documentarian I know
who were filming the other

1662
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,760
reporters in the plane who
became unpopular with the other

1663
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,960
reporters, because that was
theoretically off limits. You

1664
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,300
weren't supposed to write about
what went on inside the bubble.

1665
01:39:00,330 --> 01:39:03,690
And so they got to be got to sit
in the back with me as well.

1666
01:39:04,110 --> 01:39:06,330
Because you have been very
critical by the way, the way he

1667
01:39:06,330 --> 01:39:09,090
just glosses over that says I
sitting back with the techies,

1668
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,200
how rude is that? The techies
keep the plane in the air, the

1669
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,500
techies, the dudes named Ben
dudettes named Ben,

1670
01:39:16,830 --> 01:39:19,380
though I know but they there are
disrespected and thrown in the

1671
01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:20,430
back. Oh, totally

1672
01:39:20,430 --> 01:39:23,250
disrespected. very bad, very
bad. And he just called this

1673
01:39:23,250 --> 01:39:25,410
normal because that's where
techies belong a hole

1674
01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:28,140
in the back with me as well.
Because you have been very

1675
01:39:28,140 --> 01:39:30,480
critical. I have yeah, I've
written about the media have

1676
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:32,730
written about how we cover
stories about everything. You

1677
01:39:32,730 --> 01:39:35,640
sit there in bed, basically with
corrupt politician.

1678
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,180
Yeah. And then also that there's
this, there's this corrupting

1679
01:39:39,180 --> 01:39:41,550
relationship that happens. It's
almost like a kind of Stockholm

1680
01:39:41,550 --> 01:39:45,060
Syndrome on the campaign trail
where you're with the same

1681
01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:47,910
people over and over again, week
after week, month after month.

1682
01:39:48,270 --> 01:39:52,650
And you start to sympathize with
the people on the campaign. And

1683
01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:55,560
I think that's what's happened
over the years and then

1684
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:58,380
reporters and politicians have
adopted each other's point of

1685
01:39:58,380 --> 01:40:02,010
view, and they've lost much with
how ordinary people think and

1686
01:40:02,010 --> 01:40:05,460
they don't talk to people out
there as much Trump capitalized

1687
01:40:05,460 --> 01:40:10,320
on that he sensed that he made
us in the media villains.

1688
01:40:11,550 --> 01:40:16,080
Representatives of this out of
touch ivory tower political

1689
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,700
culture. Yeah,

1690
01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:23,460
it was an easy target. Getting
Yeah, but I like Toby has self

1691
01:40:23,460 --> 01:40:26,820
awareness final clip about the
sanctimoniously smug, there's

1692
01:40:26,820 --> 01:40:31,620
a lot of resentment out there
toward these sort of snide urban

1693
01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:38,310
especially Eastern West Coast
liberal types who people in what

1694
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:42,960
we call flyover America, they
view us as snobs who are looking

1695
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,170
down on regular people. Yeah,
we're always trying to tell them

1696
01:40:46,170 --> 01:40:48,810
how to run their lives, even
though we can't change an oil

1697
01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:52,560
filter by ourselves. There's a
lot of resentment towards

1698
01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:56,070
difference, that kind of person
and this is a it's a class

1699
01:40:56,070 --> 01:41:00,870
division that we've always had a
difficult time talking about in

1700
01:41:00,870 --> 01:41:04,830
this country. We just don't do
class very well. And so that's

1701
01:41:04,830 --> 01:41:08,670
one of the reasons why this
Trump phenomenon kind of crept

1702
01:41:08,670 --> 01:41:12,420
up on everybody. It's because
this, these divisions are things

1703
01:41:12,420 --> 01:41:15,420
that we don't normally pay a lot
of attention to sanctimonious

1704
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:24,870
sanctimoniously small
sanctimonious sayings sanctifies

1705
01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:25,410
Yes.

1706
01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:29,100
And John Oliver returns Sunday
speaking smug.

1707
01:41:29,250 --> 01:41:33,480
I will mention that anyone who
is a regular no agenda listener

1708
01:41:33,900 --> 01:41:37,170
never had the problem of things
like that creeping up on you

1709
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:38,640
know, bully were whatever.

1710
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:45,780
No, no, of course not. Yeah.
Just to switch it up. And I do

1711
01:41:45,780 --> 01:41:47,220
have some thought before

1712
01:41:47,220 --> 01:41:50,070
you do that. Yep. I do want to
throw one little thing in a

1713
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:52,410
little clip this in middle of
not switching anything I've just

1714
01:41:52,410 --> 01:41:54,990
said loan clip. This was from
that same on the media show.

1715
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:01,920
Another example of the changing
the way. Well, I'm telling you

1716
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,920
just play this. It's this. bonus
clip,

1717
01:42:05,010 --> 01:42:07,890
in many ways is very
frightening, but at the same

1718
01:42:07,890 --> 01:42:11,760
time means that the future is
yet unwritten and it's up to the

1719
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,320
media to help write it.
unwritten, unwritten, unwritten

1720
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:16,740
disguise

1721
01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:21,600
the editor of Think Progress
Putin, Putin Putin already

1722
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:22,080
written,

1723
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:26,070
but he's doing it wrong and
should be pronouncing the teeth

1724
01:42:26,070 --> 01:42:28,560
written. That's that's the one.
That's the other one we've

1725
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,360
discussed with the Cree. I know
that's what the cool kids are

1726
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,510
doing is pronounced written from
pronouncing over pronouncing,

1727
01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:33,900
yes.

1728
01:42:33,930 --> 01:42:35,370
Well, he's not a cool kid.
Obviously. He

1729
01:42:35,370 --> 01:42:41,490
just got a couple clips from
Davao the Davao drinking club.

1730
01:42:41,490 --> 01:42:48,330
Oh, yes. i And I love me some
Davo drinking club. One of our

1731
01:42:48,330 --> 01:42:51,870
dude named Yes, dude. Name. Ben
was kind of a dude named Ben

1732
01:42:51,870 --> 01:43:00,330
homie. See, where is he sent me
an email. And okay, I'll look

1733
01:43:00,330 --> 01:43:02,520
that up. I'll play the first
clip. Yeah, he's actually doing

1734
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:07,860
sound. A couple of the events
there. And yeah, he did. He did

1735
01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:12,780
sound for the George Clooney
breakfast. And he says, I'm a

1736
01:43:12,780 --> 01:43:17,610
mom, who by the way, a mall was
at least WikiLeaks lawyer. I

1737
01:43:17,610 --> 01:43:21,540
don't know why we don't harass
her. Remember when they got

1738
01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:23,880
married, that she was working?
She was a Julian Assange, his

1739
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,700
lawyer. Remember that? Yeah.
Little problem that brought it

1740
01:43:26,700 --> 01:43:30,240
up and then ever brought a
little little problem there.

1741
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:34,320
George? She said, she weighs
about she can't weigh more than

1742
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:38,460
98 pounds. And apparently she's
pregnant. To skip skin over.

1743
01:43:39,660 --> 01:43:43,320
Skin over about Yeah. Yeah. Like
we always thought she looked

1744
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:48,210
unhealthy. Anyway, a couple of
clips. The first one nice little

1745
01:43:48,210 --> 01:43:50,790
truth wants to come out from
John Kerry here.

1746
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,680
There a lot of people here,

1747
01:43:52,710 --> 01:43:55,890
Mr. Secretary, myself included,
who are walking around with a

1748
01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:58,260
pit in their stomach of fear
that so many of the things you

1749
01:43:58,260 --> 01:44:02,010
just articulated and achieved
could be reversed

1750
01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:02,970
in a week.

1751
01:44:03,180 --> 01:44:07,410
I don't believe there will be. I
just don't believe that. I mean,

1752
01:44:07,410 --> 01:44:10,740
take around, for instance, if
the United States were to decide

1753
01:44:10,740 --> 01:44:13,590
suddenly and say, Hey, we're not
going to pursue this and so

1754
01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:16,770
forth. I'll bet you I haven't
talked to all of them. But I'll

1755
01:44:16,770 --> 01:44:20,790
bet you that our friends and
allies who negotiated this with

1756
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:24,480
us will get together and that
Russia, China, Germany, France,

1757
01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:26,640
and Britain will say you know
what, this is good deal. We're

1758
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,130
gonna keep it and Iran and the
rest of it and they will keep

1759
01:44:29,130 --> 01:44:31,530
that and we'll have made
ourselves the odd person that

1760
01:44:31,530 --> 01:44:35,280
will have injured our own
credibility in conceivably

1761
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,000
irreparable way. And it will
hurt for the endurance of, you

1762
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,560
know, a year, two years,
whatever, while the

1763
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:44,430
administration is there, but
it's unnecessary, because

1764
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,800
so he says it will last during
the year or two years that the

1765
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:54,000
administration is there. Well, I
think he's talking about Iran.

1766
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,300
No, he's talking about the Trump
administration. He

1767
01:44:57,300 --> 01:44:59,010
actually think he's talking
about Iran.

1768
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,070
He clarifies it, listen to the
whole clip.

1769
01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:05,850
Probably irreparable way and it
will hurt for the endurance of,

1770
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,010
you know, a year two years
whatever while the

1771
01:45:08,010 --> 01:45:14,940
administration is there, but
it's unnecessary because what?

1772
01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:22,560
These people these people have
dirty minds. I told you I was

1773
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:22,830
gonna be

1774
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,880
cleared up. Yeah, I'm going to
be active. He's going to try and

1775
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,460
get Trump out in two years. This
is part of the I'm telling you

1776
01:45:32,460 --> 01:45:33,360
this is part of the

1777
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:37,320
denying that that's underway.
Okay. But I bet you there's a

1778
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:39,510
regime change plan that's
evolving

1779
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:44,490
and no doubt about it. Final
speech from good old Joe Biden

1780
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:52,920
at at Davao and yes, Joe is
slurring.

1781
01:45:53,190 --> 01:45:56,970
But the greatest threat on this
front springs from the distinct

1782
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,160
of liberal and external actors
who equate their success with

1783
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:05,610
fracturing liberal international
order. We see the Asian and

1784
01:46:05,610 --> 01:46:06,300
Middle East.

1785
01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:10,050
I like that the liberal would
you say Liberal National order.

1786
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:12,060
Lead played again.

1787
01:46:13,290 --> 01:46:14,130
National order

1788
01:46:14,250 --> 01:46:15,960
shoot back more Joe

1789
01:46:17,790 --> 01:46:20,820
will equate their success with
fracturing liberal international

1790
01:46:20,820 --> 01:46:21,270
order

1791
01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:23,880
liberal international order.
I've never heard this one.

1792
01:46:25,860 --> 01:46:28,890
We see an Asian and Middle East
where China and Iran would

1793
01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:32,340
clearly prefer a world in which
they their sway. They have

1794
01:46:32,340 --> 01:46:35,340
overwhelming sway in the
regions. And I'm not mince

1795
01:46:35,340 --> 01:46:39,990
words. This movement is
principally led by Russia.

1796
01:46:41,070 --> 01:46:44,130
President Putin, Russia is
working with every tool

1797
01:46:44,130 --> 01:46:49,800
available away at the edges of
the European project, test the

1798
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,620
fault lines among Western
nations and returned to a

1799
01:46:52,620 --> 01:46:56,670
politics defined by spheres of
influence. We see their

1800
01:46:56,670 --> 01:46:58,950
aggression against their
neighbors sending in so called

1801
01:46:58,950 --> 01:47:04,050
little green man across borders
to stir violence and stir and

1802
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:09,450
stirs of he's drunk on
separatism in Ukraine, using

1803
01:47:09,450 --> 01:47:13,680
energy as a weapon, cutting off
gas supplies midwinter, no

1804
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,280
because they didn't pay the bill
Joe raising prices to manipulate

1805
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,700
nations to act in Russia's
interest, using corruption to

1806
01:47:20,700 --> 01:47:24,660
empower oligarchs to coerce
politicians. We see in their

1807
01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:27,780
worldwide use of propaganda and
false information campaign fake

1808
01:47:27,780 --> 01:47:30,750
news, injecting doubt and
political agitation and

1809
01:47:30,750 --> 01:47:34,380
democratic system strengthening
illiberal factions and forces

1810
01:47:34,770 --> 01:47:38,940
both left and right to seek out
its learn and roll back the

1811
01:47:38,940 --> 01:47:43,980
decades of progress from within
our systems. We even saw it in

1812
01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:46,590
this cyber intrusions against
political parties and

1813
01:47:46,590 --> 01:47:49,410
individuals, the United States
of America. What's our

1814
01:47:49,410 --> 01:47:52,290
intelligence community all 17
have determined with high

1815
01:47:52,290 --> 01:47:56,730
confidence I've been doing
present for 46 years, they

1816
01:47:56,730 --> 01:47:58,770
seldom use the phrase high
confidence.

1817
01:47:58,770 --> 01:48:02,040
Yeah, because they never used
the phrase high confidence,

1818
01:48:02,070 --> 01:48:05,520
except the last time was if
aluminum tubes, weapons of mass

1819
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:06,060
destruction

1820
01:48:06,540 --> 01:48:10,230
states in America, what's our
intelligence community all 17

1821
01:48:10,230 --> 01:48:12,660
have determined with high
confidence. I've been doing this

1822
01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:15,750
for 46 years. They seldom use
the phrase high confidence.

1823
01:48:15,780 --> 01:48:16,080
Yeah, they

1824
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,330
only use it when they have no
proof that they were

1825
01:48:18,330 --> 01:48:19,140
specifically

1826
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,580
to influence the elections. But
it's not only the United States,

1827
01:48:23,580 --> 01:48:27,630
I need not tell you that has
been targeted. You're seeing the

1828
01:48:27,630 --> 01:48:30,150
same kind of attacks in the
past. Oh, there you go. With

1829
01:48:30,150 --> 01:48:33,870
many countries in Europe slated
to hold elections this year. We

1830
01:48:33,870 --> 01:48:36,690
should expect further attempts
by Russia to meddle in the

1831
01:48:36,690 --> 01:48:40,260
democratic process, it will
occur again I promise you and

1832
01:48:40,530 --> 01:48:44,070
the purpose is clear. To
collapse the liberal

1833
01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:47,130
international order there it is
simply put, Mr. Putin has a

1834
01:48:47,130 --> 01:48:51,810
different vision of the future.
One in which Russia is is

1835
01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:55,980
pursuing across the board. It
seeks to return to a world where

1836
01:48:55,980 --> 01:48:58,920
the stolen poles as well through
military might corruption and

1837
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,300
criminality while weaker nations
have to fall in line Hmm

1838
01:49:05,070 --> 01:49:07,440
Well, this brings me to a series
of clips

1839
01:49:07,470 --> 01:49:08,520
first we got to play this

1840
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,100
blue and you don't know why
others think news. Why don't you

1841
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:14,910
get job get?

1842
01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:20,280
boots on the ribs. All right,
bum, bum, bum bum.

1843
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:27,240
So there's this there's a series
of news reports that are going

1844
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:32,670
like everyone's doing about
Trump and NATO. Yeah, NATO is a

1845
01:49:32,670 --> 01:49:35,370
sacred cow. And what they're
trying to do is they're showing

1846
01:49:35,370 --> 01:49:40,290
that Mattis who Mad Dog Mad Mad
Dog Mattis, who by the way, has

1847
01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:43,020
got his Titon a ringer over
being a board member at

1848
01:49:43,020 --> 01:49:44,100
Serrano's.

1849
01:49:44,610 --> 01:49:49,530
Oh, the fake blood analysis
company bled out system which

1850
01:49:49,530 --> 01:49:53,280
had well said but what's his
face? Colin Powell also on the

1851
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,430
board of that, yeah, there's a
couple of Kissinger Kissinger Of

1852
01:49:56,430 --> 01:50:01,500
course. Yeah. Yeah. Sakas if
Find the Kleiner Perkins

1853
01:50:01,530 --> 01:50:02,250
investment.

1854
01:50:02,730 --> 01:50:09,840
Well, they kind of ditched it
and now it's all Draper Fisher.

1855
01:50:09,870 --> 01:50:14,970
That's unload. And Tim Draper
and I made a comment on the

1856
01:50:14,970 --> 01:50:17,280
Twitter's about this and he just
seems to have a crush on this

1857
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:23,040
girl seems to me. I don't know.
I know, Tim. Possible. So let's

1858
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,410
start with his trump NATO thing
because there's a lot of

1859
01:50:25,410 --> 01:50:27,720
interesting little
deconstruction, little tidbits.

1860
01:50:28,350 --> 01:50:32,070
Trump. Trump is kind of really
not saying much about NATO

1861
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:35,610
anymore. And Mattis as well, I
don't understand. And is there's

1862
01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:39,090
a bunch of in this report, I
believe there's one PBS I can

1863
01:50:39,090 --> 01:50:43,470
figure it out when we start
playing it. It's it's kind of a

1864
01:50:43,470 --> 01:50:48,510
maybe NBC. It's kind of a hit
piece on Trump. But it's like a

1865
01:50:48,510 --> 01:50:52,440
support of NATO, which, you
know, he says is well placed

1866
01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:53,730
play one and well, hundreds

1867
01:50:53,730 --> 01:50:58,050
of NATO troops died alongside
Americans in Afghanistan. Mr.

1868
01:50:58,050 --> 01:51:00,810
Trump had made similar
statements during the campaign.

1869
01:51:00,810 --> 01:51:04,320
But this latest BB came just
days after his nominee for

1870
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,800
defense secretary offered a
starkly different opinion,

1871
01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:11,580
NATO. From my perspective,
having served one to the NATO

1872
01:51:11,580 --> 01:51:16,230
Supreme Allied Commander is the
most successful military

1873
01:51:16,230 --> 01:51:19,050
alliance probably in modern
world history. Maybe ever.

1874
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:22,590
The Kremlin agreed with the
Trump assessment and said NATO's

1875
01:51:22,590 --> 01:51:26,580
main goal is confrontation. But
it said little about the

1876
01:51:26,580 --> 01:51:30,030
President Elect suggestion that
he might drop US sanctions on

1877
01:51:30,030 --> 01:51:34,770
Russia in exchange for nuclear
arms reductions. Mr. Trump also

1878
01:51:34,770 --> 01:51:37,980
said he's indifferent about the
European Union's future in the

1879
01:51:37,980 --> 01:51:41,940
wake of Britain's vote to leave
it. Personally, I don't think it

1880
01:51:41,940 --> 01:51:45,570
matters much for the United
States. Look, the EU was formed

1881
01:51:45,570 --> 01:51:48,960
partially to beat the United
States on trade. So I don't

1882
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,020
really care whether it's
separate or together. The

1883
01:51:52,020 --> 01:51:55,260
President Elect had special
criticism for German Chancellor

1884
01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:59,430
Angela Merkel. He said she had
made a catastrophic mistake and

1885
01:51:59,430 --> 01:52:03,270
taking in 1000s of migrants and
refugees. And he said he'll

1886
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:07,050
start off trusting Merkel and
Russian President Vladimir Putin

1887
01:52:07,050 --> 01:52:11,520
equally, but said that may not
last, the chancellor answered

1888
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,470
today in Berlin as a thinker.

1889
01:52:14,970 --> 01:52:18,420
I think for us, Europeans, we
have our fate in our own hands.

1890
01:52:18,450 --> 01:52:21,720
The President Elect made his
points again, once he is in

1891
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,930
office, which he is not at this
moment. We will of course, work

1892
01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:27,600
together with the American
government. And then we will see

1893
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,420
what sort of cooperation we can
achieve. Everybody's

1894
01:52:30,449 --> 01:52:34,409
outgoing Secretary of State John
Kerry went further in a CNN

1895
01:52:34,409 --> 01:52:34,979
interview.

1896
01:52:35,190 --> 01:52:38,760
Well, I thought, frankly, it was
inappropriate for a president

1897
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,820
elected the United States to be
stepping into the politics of

1898
01:52:41,820 --> 01:52:42,990
other countries in a quite

1899
01:52:43,949 --> 01:52:47,729
Oh my gosh. So let's review for
a moment. What I recall Trump

1900
01:52:47,729 --> 01:52:51,839
saying is, hey, NATO is
outdated. People don't pay their

1901
01:52:51,839 --> 01:52:57,749
fair share. That doesn't really
do anything good. And I think

1902
01:52:57,929 --> 01:53:00,719
arguably, that's right,
certainly the paying part.

1903
01:53:02,220 --> 01:53:05,640
And the good part may be
questionable, too. And as you

1904
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:07,680
hear that further clips where
they try to sit where they try

1905
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,490
to rationalize what NATO has
been doing all these years, you

1906
01:53:11,490 --> 01:53:13,680
find there's really nothing in
fact, well, it's

1907
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,310
it's a resource extraction unit
for the big oil companies.

1908
01:53:17,310 --> 01:53:20,910
That's what happened in Libya.
And mainly the French fighters

1909
01:53:20,910 --> 01:53:24,690
that the French fighter planes
were dropping huge bombs we were

1910
01:53:24,810 --> 01:53:29,490
we remember we were refueling
when we refueling and arming or

1911
01:53:29,490 --> 01:53:31,530
something but we weren't
actually dropping bombs.

1912
01:53:31,980 --> 01:53:34,950
Yeah, something like that is
clearly also the thing Trump

1913
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:38,070
said they had a quote Dennis
screen Quizzing. I don't care

1914
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:41,130
what happens to the EU because
they were formed to be our

1915
01:53:41,130 --> 01:53:41,970
competitor, which

1916
01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:45,210
is true they want it to be yes,
yeah. Bigger than it wants to

1917
01:53:45,210 --> 01:53:48,900
say that have their own money.
Which is, which is the most

1918
01:53:48,900 --> 01:53:51,120
important part is having your
own money. Yeah, I told you

1919
01:53:51,150 --> 01:53:55,440
the euro and they tried to make
into Euro oil in euros, which we

1920
01:53:55,440 --> 01:54:00,390
don't like it. But that little
thing there. This defensive NATO

1921
01:54:00,390 --> 01:54:02,430
has me a little bit baffled. And
maybe you're gonna help me out

1922
01:54:02,430 --> 01:54:05,280
after we hear a couple more of
these clips. Here's the one this

1923
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,380
is the Trumpers NATO number two,

1924
01:54:07,499 --> 01:54:10,769
we get reaction to Mr. Trump's
comments from two people with

1925
01:54:10,769 --> 01:54:14,609
extensive experience managing
Europe, European relations.

1926
01:54:14,909 --> 01:54:17,849
NICHOLAS BURNS was a career
diplomat. He was ambassador to

1927
01:54:17,849 --> 01:54:20,759
NATO during the Obama
administration. He's now at

1928
01:54:20,759 --> 01:54:24,659
Harvard University and he joins
us tonight from London. Mr.

1929
01:54:24,659 --> 01:54:27,689
Bird, please start with you.
former ambassador to NATO.

1930
01:54:28,409 --> 01:54:32,039
Donald Trump says that NATO is
obsolete because it doesn't take

1931
01:54:32,039 --> 01:54:35,189
on tear unfair to the United
States. What's your take?

1932
01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:36,660
He's completely wrong about

1933
01:54:36,660 --> 01:54:39,300
that. I was ambassador to NATO
for President George W. Bush

1934
01:54:39,300 --> 01:54:44,070
actually on 911. And on 911 When
we were attacked from al Qaeda

1935
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:47,280
in Afghanistan, the NATO allies
came to us in Brussels, they

1936
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,890
said they wanted to invoke
Article Five of the NATO Treaty

1937
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:53,460
and attack on one of us is an
attack on all of us. They came

1938
01:54:53,460 --> 01:54:57,270
to our defense big time. They
all went to Afghanistan. They

1939
01:54:57,270 --> 01:55:01,860
bled, died and were wounded for
us. In Afghanistan, they're all

1940
01:55:01,860 --> 01:55:04,890
still fighting in Afghanistan,
we fought the terrorism. I've

1941
01:55:04,890 --> 01:55:07,560
done many years that ban of
terrorism of the Taliban and

1942
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,950
other terrorist groups in
Afghanistan. So Trump is Donald

1943
01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:13,470
Trump is exactly wrong. I can
tell you having been in London

1944
01:55:13,470 --> 01:55:17,070
today, people here are just
flabbergasted by this interview,

1945
01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:20,430
and The Times of London, to
basic to denigrate NATO is

1946
01:55:20,430 --> 01:55:24,630
obsolete to root openly for the
weakening of the European Union,

1947
01:55:24,750 --> 01:55:29,370
to castigate Angular Merkel, our
strongest friend in Europe. We

1948
01:55:29,370 --> 01:55:32,910
have not seen an American
president be so openly critical

1949
01:55:32,910 --> 01:55:37,830
of our allies in 70 years, and
yet he doesn't criticize our

1950
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:41,790
adversary, Vladimir Putin. Yes,
of course.

1951
01:55:43,590 --> 01:55:44,820
I found it's not

1952
01:55:44,820 --> 01:55:48,420
tradition. It's not protocol,
our special relationship.

1953
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:53,820
This guy NICHOLAS BURNS, you can
look him up. Spoke yet well, he

1954
01:55:53,820 --> 01:55:57,000
doesn't like a spook but young
spook because he hasn't got the

1955
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,920
old white hair yet. But,

1956
01:55:59,430 --> 01:56:01,890
and again, Putin adversary he
should have he could have

1957
01:56:01,890 --> 01:56:07,200
mentioned the first as I recall,
the first leader of any state to

1958
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:13,860
offer condolences and any help,
I believe was, was Russia. Yeah.

1959
01:56:14,130 --> 01:56:16,890
And it may have been Putin. I
don't know if it's, if you're

1960
01:56:16,890 --> 01:56:20,400
deaf, and med med mimetic, they
were the first ones Hey, dudes,

1961
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:21,840
anything you need, we're here.

1962
01:56:23,460 --> 01:56:25,980
And they have because they have
experience they've had they

1963
01:56:25,980 --> 01:56:28,410
know a lot about terrorism.
Yeah, Chechnya, all that stuff.

1964
01:56:28,410 --> 01:56:30,870
Sure. They got tons of
experience. And I just want to

1965
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:36,990
say one thing about NATO. Colin
Grodd? Is it Colin Grodd? Colin

1966
01:56:36,990 --> 01:56:44,400
Grodd? I think Colin Grodd, if
you look at the map is very

1967
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,790
similar to Crimea. It is it
belongs to Russia. It's a

1968
01:56:47,820 --> 01:56:53,070
province. It is right above
Poland. I guarantee you, we're

1969
01:56:53,070 --> 01:56:56,220
going to see some crap there.
Because we're getting close to

1970
01:56:56,220 --> 01:57:01,110
the border there with our tanks
are was at 4000 troops. First,

1971
01:57:01,350 --> 01:57:05,550
first 4000. Lord knows. And
they're going to be building up

1972
01:57:05,550 --> 01:57:09,360
down the border, which is a
Russian province. And you're

1973
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:13,620
going to see a similar issue as
with Ukraine, and common Grodd.

1974
01:57:13,620 --> 01:57:17,790
Also a very interesting country,
for pipelines for passing

1975
01:57:17,790 --> 01:57:18,600
pipelines through

1976
01:57:19,290 --> 01:57:21,090
Well, we got to get those
stopped, those Russians have

1977
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:25,470
given people oil, I'm just gonna
happen. There was a couple of

1978
01:57:25,470 --> 01:57:28,230
things in here that I thought
were kind of brought to mind

1979
01:57:28,230 --> 01:57:32,760
anyway, why? What's the deal?
Why are we in for warranty?

1980
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,610
We're pushing NATO toward
Russia. So it is a hostile

1981
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:40,290
group. But I think that if they
would be honest with the

1982
01:57:40,290 --> 01:57:42,930
American public and say, one of
the reasons for NATO, and I

1983
01:57:42,930 --> 01:57:45,600
believe this to be true, I
could, you know, just an

1984
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:50,430
extension of the guard normal
thinking is to prevent Europe

1985
01:57:50,430 --> 01:57:53,910
for putting together their own
damned army, because every time

1986
01:57:53,910 --> 01:57:58,440
they do anything, the reason for
NATO is just really to kind of

1987
01:57:59,310 --> 01:58:02,730
throw a wet blanket on the
Europeans all together, because

1988
01:58:02,730 --> 01:58:05,580
they'll just start killing each
other again. Yeah. Because

1989
01:58:05,820 --> 01:58:08,940
deep rooted issues, certainly
the Germans and the French.

1990
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:13,920
Yes. And that's so we have this
NATO, too. But we can't say that

1991
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,740
because it doesn't solve the
Europeans. We can't be honest to

1992
01:58:16,740 --> 01:58:18,240
not transition.

1993
01:58:19,230 --> 01:58:21,510
It's natural protocol.

1994
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,390
Let's go on with this is
complaining with NATO clips re

1995
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:32,130
when we join with our allies to
whether it's defeating the

1996
01:58:32,130 --> 01:58:38,040
Taliban and Afghanistan,
supporting those in Iraq to beat

1997
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:43,620
back ISIS to protect NATO when a
Russia invades a neighboring

1998
01:58:43,620 --> 01:58:47,430
country, this it makes America
stronger. It's a part of US

1999
01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:50,130
national security. So when
you're criticizing NATO and and

2000
01:58:50,130 --> 01:58:53,880
saying it's obsolete, you're
actually degrading US national

2001
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:58,080
security. And that's what has us
all so confused about Mr.

2002
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,900
Trump's comments. It's okay to
say Europe's not spending

2003
01:59:00,900 --> 01:59:05,040
enough, and we need to increase
that spending. But we get an

2004
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:08,340
enormous benefit out of the NATO
alliance,

2005
01:59:08,460 --> 01:59:10,680
just not tradition. It's not
protocol.

2006
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,440
Again, not really telling the
truth here. For one thing, we

2007
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,620
have not defeated the Taliban.

2008
01:59:17,490 --> 01:59:20,100
And while just while we're on
who I'm hearing so much about

2009
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:25,560
Afghanistan, there's a story.
There's a retired CIA agent, CIA

2010
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:31,320
agent, John Abbotsford. And he
has written he has written a

2011
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,950
book. He's been on the talk
shows now okay, I haven't seen

2012
01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:38,220
him. He says he's written a book
CIA in Afghanistan, 30 years of

2013
01:59:38,220 --> 01:59:44,400
drug smuggling, and and he says,
I participated. We were

2014
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,580
smuggling the drugs. And he says
there's a desperate attempt by

2015
01:59:47,580 --> 01:59:51,540
the US government to shut me up
in this court case. And now you

2016
01:59:51,540 --> 01:59:54,030
know, the way it works with CIA
you have to run everything past

2017
01:59:54,030 --> 01:59:57,630
the pickle factory before you
can publish it. So he's

2018
01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:00,300
obviously having an issue with
that, but I think It'll go

2019
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:04,020
nowhere. But I can't wait to
read it if it ever comes out.

2020
02:00:05,609 --> 02:00:08,369
Well, he's been floating around.
Yeah, but you, you'll catch him

2021
02:00:08,369 --> 02:00:12,419
on alternative media mostly.
Let's go to clip four. And then

2022
02:00:12,419 --> 02:00:13,799
we'll that'll be the end of this

2023
02:00:13,859 --> 02:00:17,939
rush across the brightest red
line and international law by

2024
02:00:18,059 --> 02:00:22,019
invading, annexing Crimea, and
then dividing Eastern Ukraine

2025
02:00:22,019 --> 02:00:25,109
and Donbass. And of course, it's
been threatening our NATO

2026
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:27,839
allies, the Baltic states, those
sanctuary systems are in place

2027
02:00:28,109 --> 02:00:31,979
by Europeans, Canadians and
Americans as leverage against

2028
02:00:31,979 --> 02:00:35,579
Russia. And the sanctions cannot
be lifted until Russia removes

2029
02:00:35,579 --> 02:00:38,759
his forces from eastern Ukraine.
If it doesn't do that, and if we

2030
02:00:38,759 --> 02:00:42,389
give away way on sanctions,
Russia gets away with grand

2031
02:00:42,389 --> 02:00:46,379
larceny. The European leadership
will be furious with the United

2032
02:00:46,379 --> 02:00:50,069
States Angular Merkel especially
she negotiated the sanctions

2033
02:00:50,249 --> 02:00:53,729
with President Putin directly.
And so I think it's a very

2034
02:00:53,729 --> 02:00:57,629
unwise it gives away American
American influence, it would be

2035
02:00:57,629 --> 02:01:01,049
a weak policy by the United
States, not a strong policy.

2036
02:01:02,340 --> 02:01:07,230
When did did you know that
Merkel negotiated the sanctions

2037
02:01:07,230 --> 02:01:11,190
with the Putin personally? No, I
didn't do instead.

2038
02:01:11,460 --> 02:01:14,160
I believe it though. I know that

2039
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,470
you believe it. But I think it
would be nice to know this. And

2040
02:01:16,470 --> 02:01:19,650
it first was such a strong bunch
of tough guys. Why didn't we do

2041
02:01:19,650 --> 02:01:19,860
it?

2042
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:26,250
Oh, because he's our adversary.
I've no idea. I do know that.

2043
02:01:27,570 --> 02:01:30,930
The German opposition leader,
what's the German opposition's

2044
02:01:30,930 --> 02:01:36,510
leaders name? Parliamentary
Leader of the Opposition? What

2045
02:01:36,510 --> 02:01:42,180
is her name now? vog and
connect? She says we need to

2046
02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:45,900
have a security union with
Russia for the dissolution of

2047
02:01:45,900 --> 02:01:48,150
NATO. Trump is not the only one.

2048
02:01:51,060 --> 02:01:54,180
Again, again, I think this is
because NATO is really just a

2049
02:01:54,180 --> 02:01:57,870
wet blanket to keep the European
because this nonsense that they

2050
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:01,860
held, you know that they helped
us invade because attacking one

2051
02:02:01,860 --> 02:02:06,870
of us is attacking all of us. So
so. Afghanistan was invaded with

2052
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:10,380
the help of NATO. Afghanistan
didn't attack us.

2053
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:16,560
Nope. Well, that was from
remember the story. First was Al

2054
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:19,830
Qaeda. Iraq then was like, Oh,
crap, man. Yeah, no, I mean,

2055
02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:23,850
Afghanistan and Pakistan. We
just went all over the place. We

2056
02:02:23,850 --> 02:02:27,480
are horrible. I want to go back.

2057
02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:31,920
And it may be, you know, maybe
favorable to keep NATO going to

2058
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:35,430
keep this World War siege from
breaking up by these maniacs in

2059
02:02:35,430 --> 02:02:36,210
the EU?

2060
02:02:36,540 --> 02:02:39,540
Well, they certainly have their
own army at play, which is, as

2061
02:02:39,540 --> 02:02:42,510
you pointed out, is what was not
supposed to happen. So they have

2062
02:02:42,510 --> 02:02:46,260
that now, or they're getting it
started. Not bad. The one

2063
02:02:46,770 --> 02:02:50,490
I do get to buy twice as many
ammunitions.

2064
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:54,720
I want to go back to Devo
double. But first, something

2065
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:59,280
very interesting happened with
our tea. And I caught this

2066
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:03,090
report this morning. And they're
not exactly clear on some

2067
02:03:03,090 --> 02:03:05,490
things. So I'll interrupt in
enlighten

2068
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:09,540
Artie has been blocked from
posting content to its Facebook

2069
02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:13,860
page. The ban was triggered by
an algorithm that checks what's

2070
02:03:13,860 --> 02:03:17,640
being submitted online. Artis
head of social media has been

2071
02:03:17,670 --> 02:03:19,530
explaining to me what happened?

2072
02:03:19,950 --> 02:03:23,970
Well, unfortunately, a bot
struck as it were, we were

2073
02:03:23,970 --> 02:03:27,240
carrying the livestream of
Barack Obama's press conferences

2074
02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:29,040
final press conference
yesterday, as were many news

2075
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:34,350
agencies across Facebook and a
channel knows nasty Ashley

2076
02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:36,840
Freeman you have which is, in
fact part of Radio Free Europe,

2077
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:42,420
it's owned by the BBG, the US
kind of government media struck

2078
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:46,950
against us. There was a Facebook
bot informed us that they had

2079
02:03:46,950 --> 02:03:49,050
claimed rights on this
broadcast. So

2080
02:03:49,890 --> 02:03:54,690
so the let's just presume RT is
indeed a complete propaganda arm

2081
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:59,820
of the state and of Putin. What
happened is the propaganda arm

2082
02:03:59,820 --> 02:04:02,670
of the United States, the
broadcast board of governors who

2083
02:04:02,820 --> 02:04:05,490
run Voice of America who run the
Russian station, you just

2084
02:04:05,490 --> 02:04:12,360
mentioned, they called out, you
know, they flagged RTS video

2085
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:15,150
saying, oh, that's copyright
violation, because that, you

2086
02:04:15,150 --> 02:04:18,840
know, we have the rights to
that. So it's the act of

2087
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:21,600
propaganda organizations
fighting propaganda

2088
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:24,180
organizations. This is stellar.

2089
02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:31,140
Government media struck against
us. There was a Facebook bot

2090
02:04:31,140 --> 02:04:33,240
informed us that they had
claimed rights on this

2091
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:36,960
broadcast. This claim against us
brought us over a certain

2092
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:40,680
threshold with Facebook. And we
unfortunately were struck by a

2093
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,770
Facebook bot and informs us that
we are now blocked from posting

2094
02:04:43,770 --> 02:04:47,100
any content to our Facebook
page, where we have 4 million

2095
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:51,060
fantastic followers. And yeah,
for at the moment, we're waiting

2096
02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:53,850
to hear from them. So it should
be we should make it clear. It

2097
02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:57,660
took the AP feed, we're an AP
clients and we took an AP feed

2098
02:04:57,660 --> 02:05:00,090
of the Barack Obama presser
we've done it loads of times We

2099
02:05:00,090 --> 02:05:03,150
will continue to do it once once
the block is lifted. But

2100
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:06,150
unfortunately, we're looking at
a time limit right now unless we

2101
02:05:06,150 --> 02:05:07,590
heard from Facebook or can
resolve the problem, the

2102
02:05:07,590 --> 02:05:09,990
shorter, we're looking at a time
limit that will take us through

2103
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:11,220
the Trump inauguration.

2104
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,310
So they won't be able to post to
the face bag until after the

2105
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:15,930
inauguration. So as

2106
02:05:15,930 --> 02:05:18,840
a client of the Associated
Press, which gives you these

2107
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:23,220
rights, yeah. And as part of the
deal, as opposed to we'll just

2108
02:05:23,220 --> 02:05:27,960
steal Associated Press material.
Yeah. So they did it

2109
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:33,480
legitimately and then face bag.
Just cut them off. Just anyway.

2110
02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:37,170
Yeah, well, yeah. And it was,
uh, but I doubt it. They cut

2111
02:05:37,170 --> 02:05:37,650
them off.

2112
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,200
They cut them off, and it won't
be reinstated until after the

2113
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:43,860
inauguration. Huh? Oh, someone
says in the chat room, the ban

2114
02:05:43,860 --> 02:05:47,490
was lifted. That's possible that
it already happened. But still,

2115
02:05:48,090 --> 02:05:50,520
that is propaganda war. And I
like it.

2116
02:05:51,150 --> 02:05:57,240
Yeah, cool. Is we have our own
system to distribute our

2117
02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:01,680
product. As opposed to using I
don't know, pod bean or

2118
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:02,100
whatever.

2119
02:06:02,850 --> 02:06:06,840
You know, did you subscribe me
to pod bean? Because? Because

2120
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:10,680
I'm getting an email every week.
Here's your stats on pod bean.

2121
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:15,840
We don't use now I think
somebody posted us on pod bean

2122
02:06:15,870 --> 02:06:16,380
Nice.

2123
02:06:16,409 --> 02:06:21,089
Maybe possible. Can't get too
much bent. You can't get too

2124
02:06:21,089 --> 02:06:23,699
much bandwidth out of them
before paying a lot of money,

2125
02:06:23,729 --> 02:06:24,059
no.

2126
02:06:25,500 --> 02:06:30,900
And back to Davao for a moment
because the most interesting

2127
02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:38,520
guest was Jack Ma of Alibaba.
And I don't know much about Jack

2128
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,970
Ma. I don't I learned a lot
about how Alibaba works. They're

2129
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:45,390
really not comparable to Amazon
in their their business model.

2130
02:06:45,390 --> 02:06:48,540
There is as you'll hear their
business model Izmir is more

2131
02:06:48,540 --> 02:06:55,410
data or as he says data's But
Jack, of course Jack Ma met with

2132
02:06:55,410 --> 02:07:00,180
Trump. And of course, that's the
first question there in Davao.

2133
02:07:00,210 --> 02:07:03,810
And we all have to laugh as well
when that happens where a

2134
02:07:03,810 --> 02:07:05,970
billionaire businessman meets
with another billionaire

2135
02:07:05,970 --> 02:07:08,310
businessman trying to make the
world better, but it's

2136
02:07:08,370 --> 02:07:09,930
apparently a laughable fact.

2137
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,320
Let me start with this. Which is
to say that you just spent some

2138
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:22,770
time inside Trump Tower in and
went to visit with our president

2139
02:07:22,770 --> 02:07:25,080
elect in the United States tell
us about that meeting.

2140
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:30,390
That's very productive meeting.
Much better than I thought than

2141
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:34,350
I expected. What did you expect?
Well, I heard

2142
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:40,200
the can't stop laughing. What is
wrong with these people? It's

2143
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:43,230
like just the name Trump evokes
laughter is very interesting.

2144
02:07:43,410 --> 02:07:44,430
Well, I

2145
02:07:44,430 --> 02:07:47,910
heard a lot on the watch. Like
everybody, I watch all the news

2146
02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:51,780
and heard a lot about him. So
when I go inside us, um,

2147
02:07:51,810 --> 02:07:58,140
anything that but he's three
sort of open minded, listen to

2148
02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:02,880
what I talk. So I think I'm very
happy by results and failed,

2149
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:06,060
where he said he offered
subject, let me walk you down.

2150
02:08:06,390 --> 02:08:09,120
They seem he's very happy about
the results we had.

2151
02:08:09,420 --> 02:08:12,810
Can I ask how does a meeting
like that happen? Do you call

2152
02:08:12,810 --> 02:08:14,670
him? Does she call you?

2153
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:21,630
More or less than? It's more
for? Haha? No. What? What is

2154
02:08:21,630 --> 02:08:26,580
that? What is it in this
universe that we're listening

2155
02:08:26,580 --> 02:08:32,040
to? That? These things are
funny? Why is it funny? So I did

2156
02:08:32,040 --> 02:08:32,220
this

2157
02:08:32,220 --> 02:08:33,840
meeting happened. Oh,

2158
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:39,480
does he call you to you? He
called you. I mean, that is

2159
02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:42,600
not funny. Let's start with that
premise. Because it's not like a

2160
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:46,530
great gag. It's not a joke. It's
but there's some there's

2161
02:08:46,530 --> 02:08:49,410
something about this, like this
guy that was on the on the media

2162
02:08:49,410 --> 02:08:51,300
that couldn't get out of bed and
he was completely so

2163
02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:54,810
like nervous. Nervous laughter I
guess nervous laughter perhaps.

2164
02:08:54,990 --> 02:08:57,870
I don't think it was nervous
laughter I think it was as good.

2165
02:08:58,500 --> 02:09:01,200
As you know, the men's club kind
of laughter where you laugh at

2166
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:04,860
anything this guy says? Because
you know that he hates Trump

2167
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:09,120
behind it all. Maybe that's what
I'm thinking. Hmm. It was Chuck

2168
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:09,780
Todd, right.

2169
02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:14,760
Who was asking the questions.
Now there's another guy. I

2170
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,130
recognize him. I don't know his
mix. Sounds like it's not.

2171
02:09:17,790 --> 02:09:18,450
Alright, we'll continue.

2172
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:22,530
Oh, are you? How does this take
place? Well,

2173
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:28,560
that's, that's the question. I'm
asking myself. Because some

2174
02:09:28,590 --> 02:09:33,090
Sunday, I got some requests from
people say Jag. Do you want a

2175
02:09:33,090 --> 02:09:38,580
meeting the President Elect say,
is that true or not? Because I'm

2176
02:09:38,580 --> 02:09:43,050
not ready for that. Because I
don't know what to talk about.

2177
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:45,810
And then few days later, I got
another request. I've got

2178
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,900
several requests. And then I saw
one email, which were friend has

2179
02:09:48,900 --> 02:09:55,200
very sort of specific. I thought
about it, I think, yes, maybe I

2180
02:09:55,200 --> 02:10:02,010
should go and have a talk. And
at least I think President Elect

2181
02:10:02,010 --> 02:10:06,660
Donald Trump will be happy to
hear what I want to talk about.

2182
02:10:07,020 --> 02:10:09,300
So I went and what did you tell
him?

2183
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:14,880
About the small business? Talk
about agricultural products talk

2184
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:19,830
about the trade between China
and the USA. We especially focus

2185
02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:23,850
on Todd telling about how can we
bring this small business in

2186
02:10:23,850 --> 02:10:26,610
America seldom to China? Do you

2187
02:10:26,610 --> 02:10:28,770
hear what he's saying? By the
way? He says China, he doesn't

2188
02:10:28,770 --> 02:10:32,460
say China. He says China just
the way Trump says it. China.

2189
02:10:34,740 --> 02:10:35,460
Did you notice that?

2190
02:10:35,910 --> 02:10:37,920
No, I didn't. But I'll pay
attention. Yeah, the

2191
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:40,950
quality is a little crappy. But
he definitely just saying China

2192
02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:45,630
because sell them to China,
through our network, which can

2193
02:10:45,630 --> 02:10:46,770
create a lot of jobs for them,

2194
02:10:46,860 --> 02:10:49,740
given some of the comments that
Donald Trump has made about

2195
02:10:49,740 --> 02:10:52,860
China being a manipulator, a
currency manipulator. Did that

2196
02:10:52,860 --> 02:10:53,910
come up during your meeting?

2197
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:57,810
Well, I think first in America,
there's a freedom of speech.

2198
02:10:58,110 --> 02:11:02,130
Right? So he can say whatever he
wants, and I respect I

2199
02:11:02,130 --> 02:11:07,170
understand. But of course, I
have my views. We did not debate

2200
02:11:07,170 --> 02:11:10,770
about the China us a Trine or
toe or manipulation. We're gonna

2201
02:11:10,770 --> 02:11:15,420
debate whether or not we
actually agreed on something

2202
02:11:15,630 --> 02:11:19,290
small business, developing the
Midwest, America, helping the

2203
02:11:19,290 --> 02:11:22,950
farmers their small business,
they're exporting to China. So

2204
02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:26,490
we all agree, but something that
we do not discuss about the, you

2205
02:11:26,490 --> 02:11:31,770
know, the American Job losing to
China or met shiner this.

2206
02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:38,880
Okay, so you had a nice meeting
with him? Sounds like, yeah. And

2207
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:41,100
then Jack Ma, like

2208
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:44,370
everybody who's met with Trump.
If you think about it, now,

2209
02:11:44,370 --> 02:11:49,110
there's all kinds of burying
people try to buttonhole them as

2210
02:11:49,110 --> 02:11:52,410
they leave the elevator. They've
also they've had a good meeting.

2211
02:11:52,980 --> 02:11:55,590
So he gives good meeting,
apparently. Yeah. And

2212
02:11:55,620 --> 02:12:02,910
the Ma said, yeah, he listened.
He's very open. Gee, I don't

2213
02:12:02,910 --> 02:12:08,220
know, why didn't they run him
out of town. And then Jack, Jack

2214
02:12:08,220 --> 02:12:15,870
Ma, gave us his analysis of our
system, the United States

2215
02:12:15,870 --> 02:12:22,620
system, how we are part of the
global community and what we the

2216
02:12:22,620 --> 02:12:27,270
choices we made our strategy
over the past, let's say 40 to

2217
02:12:27,270 --> 02:12:28,680
50 years, but actually longer

2218
02:12:28,710 --> 02:12:33,330
Can I share with you my ideas,
please? I think 30 years ago,

2219
02:12:33,330 --> 02:12:36,930
when I just did graduate from
universities, I heard American a

2220
02:12:36,930 --> 02:12:42,210
wonderful strategy. They
outsource the manufacturing job

2221
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:46,110
service jobs. They outsource
manufacturing to Mexico and

2222
02:12:46,110 --> 02:12:51,120
China outsource the service job
to Indian there's a book called

2223
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:52,170
The World is a Flat

2224
02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:54,420
Tom Friedman. Yeah, Alec at the
New York Times.

2225
02:12:54,660 --> 02:12:58,620
And I think it's a perfect
strategy. You know, that the the

2226
02:12:58,620 --> 02:13:02,040
American said, we just want to
control the IP, we just want to

2227
02:13:02,070 --> 02:13:06,090
technology, we just want the
brand to leave the the law and a

2228
02:13:06,090 --> 02:13:11,820
job for the world. Grace
strategy. And second is that the

2229
02:13:11,820 --> 02:13:15,330
American International Company
has made millions and millions

2230
02:13:15,330 --> 02:13:19,950
of dollars from globalization,
the Top 10 Top 100 companies in

2231
02:13:19,950 --> 02:13:26,220
America past a 30 years IBM,
Cisco, Microsoft, they made a

2232
02:13:26,220 --> 02:13:29,730
tons of them and the money the
profit they've made a much more

2233
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:33,300
than the four largest banks in
China put together the moat

2234
02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:36,540
China Mobifone China Unicom and
whatever you name it put

2235
02:13:36,540 --> 02:13:39,480
together still these
multinational companies made

2236
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:43,140
more money bet so their market
cap grow more than 100 times in

2237
02:13:43,140 --> 02:13:46,290
past 30 years. But where'd the
money go? This is what I'm

2238
02:13:46,290 --> 02:13:49,770
curious. Because as a business
people, I always care about the

2239
02:13:49,770 --> 02:13:53,340
balance sheet where the money
coming when money go past the 30

2240
02:13:53,340 --> 02:13:59,670
years, the American hat 13 was
spending $14.2 trillion the

2241
02:13:59,670 --> 02:14:03,480
money going there? What if they
spent a part of the money on

2242
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:07,410
building up the infrastructure,
helping the white cars, the

2243
02:14:07,410 --> 02:14:11,070
white collars and blue collars,
no matter how strategy good it

2244
02:14:11,070 --> 02:14:14,940
is? You're supposed to spending
money on your own people. Right

2245
02:14:14,970 --> 02:14:19,920
on the left, everybody can pass
Harvard, like me, we got about

2246
02:14:20,850 --> 02:14:24,030
education, right? We should
spend money on those people who

2247
02:14:24,030 --> 02:14:27,450
are not a good schooling and the
other money, which I'm curious

2248
02:14:27,450 --> 02:14:32,850
about when I was young, I heard
America is bad. A Ford, Ford and

2249
02:14:32,850 --> 02:14:36,600
Boeing those big manufacturing
companies last 1020 years I

2250
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:40,650
heard about is Silicon Valley
and Wall Street. The money go to

2251
02:14:40,650 --> 02:14:45,360
the Wall Street. And what
happened year 2008. The

2252
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:51,510
financial crisis wiped out $19.2
trillion. USA alone wiped the

2253
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:56,310
all of the white colors and
destroyed 34 million jobs

2254
02:14:56,310 --> 02:15:00,330
globally. So what if the money
is not Wall Street? Why If the

2255
02:15:00,330 --> 02:15:04,290
money spent on the Middle East,
Midwest of the United States,

2256
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:08,190
developing the industry there,
that could be changed a lot. So

2257
02:15:08,190 --> 02:15:13,020
it's not the other countries
steal jobs from your guys. It is

2258
02:15:13,020 --> 02:15:14,460
your strategy. Yeah,

2259
02:15:14,940 --> 02:15:18,930
exactly. We take the money, and
we go attack brown people who

2260
02:15:18,930 --> 02:15:22,260
live in the sand. Instead of
building up infrastructure.

2261
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:25,590
Yes. Why there's potholes on the
road right outside my house on

2262
02:15:25,590 --> 02:15:30,960
the highway, US Highway 80 is an
interstate highway with potholes

2263
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:31,860
all over the place.

2264
02:15:31,890 --> 02:15:34,890
John Cena borax diva day.

2265
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:39,690
final clip. And this is what I
don't like about Jack Ma. I've

2266
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:42,420
In fact, I find this quite
dangerous what he's doing. He's

2267
02:15:42,420 --> 02:15:48,240
building something called EWT.
Which is the that's the it's

2268
02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:54,960
basically a network that will
enable people to connect with

2269
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:58,560
manufacturing sales, etc. That's
pretty much what Alibaba does.

2270
02:15:59,340 --> 02:16:02,820
But there's something else they
do. And that is credit. They do.

2271
02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:03,360
They have

2272
02:16:03,390 --> 02:16:07,410
you by the way they do a crappy
job. Oh, yeah. No, it's not that

2273
02:16:07,410 --> 02:16:10,530
these No, because you like you
want to, you know, you're

2274
02:16:10,530 --> 02:16:12,450
finishing a little podcast
device. I'm going to come over

2275
02:16:12,450 --> 02:16:16,860
the microphone. They have. They
do the connections are terrible.

2276
02:16:17,130 --> 02:16:21,210
They never respond. These
companies are dumb. Eric had a

2277
02:16:21,210 --> 02:16:23,820
problem with it. Because, you
know, outsource the rings in

2278
02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:27,450
some of these other things to
doing some mugs to China and

2279
02:16:27,450 --> 02:16:30,180
they got screwed on a couple of
deals. One guy just stole the

2280
02:16:30,180 --> 02:16:34,590
money. Yeah, the staff to they
don't do anything about that.

2281
02:16:34,620 --> 02:16:36,180
Anyway, I'm sorry. Go on. Yeah,
but it's

2282
02:16:36,180 --> 02:16:39,870
uh, yeah, of course, there's, of
course there's fraud. And you

2283
02:16:39,870 --> 02:16:42,420
know, the fake products, which I
didn't clip it. But he actually

2284
02:16:42,420 --> 02:16:45,060
went on to say that a lot of
these fake products like the

2285
02:16:45,060 --> 02:16:50,070
fake brand name bags and stuff
like that. He says, It is so

2286
02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:57,150
good. That sometimes the quality
of the knockoffs is better than

2287
02:16:57,150 --> 02:17:00,510
the original. I agree with that.
And he said, he said we would

2288
02:17:00,510 --> 02:17:04,620
buy knockoffs, right off of
Alibaba ourselves, send it to

2289
02:17:04,620 --> 02:17:07,590
the company, they'd be like, No,
that's one of ours, even though

2290
02:17:07,590 --> 02:17:11,820
it wasn't. That's just an
interesting tip, because you can

2291
02:17:11,820 --> 02:17:14,520
get the same look and better
quality. Yeah, it's theft, but

2292
02:17:14,550 --> 02:17:18,210
no well, but he's come up with
something with these micro

2293
02:17:18,210 --> 02:17:21,420
loans. And that's a part of the
Alibaba Alibaba system. And

2294
02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:25,410
based upon your purchasing or
your sales behavior, through the

2295
02:17:25,410 --> 02:17:30,600
system, I guess a lot of Chinese
must use it. They through AI, he

2296
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:35,430
has a hands off credit system,
that within three minutes, they

2297
02:17:35,430 --> 02:17:38,940
can determine if your credit
worthy for this $5,000 line of

2298
02:17:38,940 --> 02:17:41,790
credit. And it's done through
something called the sesame

2299
02:17:41,790 --> 02:17:46,260
card. And these cards are kind
of like a rating as to your

2300
02:17:46,260 --> 02:17:49,320
credit score. It's very similar
to what we have only this is run

2301
02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:52,860
by one big commercial company.
And I think it's very dangerous

2302
02:17:52,860 --> 02:17:55,530
if you listen to how gleeful he
talks about it. We are a

2303
02:17:55,560 --> 02:18:01,170
data company eight years ago, we
said to ourself, Alibaba should

2304
02:18:01,170 --> 02:18:04,110
not be an E commerce company, we
should be a data company because

2305
02:18:04,110 --> 02:18:06,660
we have the data's from
consumers, we have data from

2306
02:18:06,660 --> 02:18:10,050
the, the the manufacturer of
daters, from the logistic

2307
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:13,890
company and transactions, but we
think how we can make a data

2308
02:18:14,220 --> 02:18:18,360
really beneficiary to the
society what China need is we

2309
02:18:18,360 --> 02:18:23,580
have a lot of great people all
the small business they have a

2310
02:18:23,580 --> 02:18:26,700
very they're very credible but
because we don't have a credit

2311
02:18:26,700 --> 02:18:32,160
system for that, so how can we
use a credit rating system based

2312
02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:38,070
on the data so we have to it
giving everybody a sesame a

2313
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:41,940
rating system that is so
powerful in the past four years,

2314
02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:45,750
because every individual every
small business if they've been

2315
02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:49,590
using our services, we give them
a rating system. So we give you

2316
02:18:49,620 --> 02:18:54,120
loans in the past five years,
we've given 5 million business

2317
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:59,610
loans the only bought borrow
$5,000 free minutes we can

2318
02:18:59,610 --> 02:19:02,280
decide whether we should give
you money how much I'm going to

2319
02:19:02,280 --> 02:19:06,720
give within one second the money
will be in your account and zero

2320
02:19:06,750 --> 02:19:12,030
people touch so we call it a 310
Even today the sesame rating

2321
02:19:12,030 --> 02:19:16,800
system become people dating the
mother in law want to say hey,

2322
02:19:16,830 --> 02:19:19,410
you want to date to with my
daughter show me your rating

2323
02:19:19,410 --> 02:19:23,610
system of the sesame car. So
it's so funny we go to the

2324
02:19:24,090 --> 02:19:26,970
people want to rent a car people
want to rent a bicycle they will

2325
02:19:26,970 --> 02:19:31,620
say show me your sesame cards.
Good because if they do not pay

2326
02:19:31,620 --> 02:19:35,730
back if they do not fulfill the
rating system gonna slow down

2327
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:39,450
and they can never rent a house.
This is what we want to build up

2328
02:19:39,540 --> 02:19:40,200
the system.

2329
02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:44,250
And this is coming everywhere. I
guarantee you. This is what

2330
02:19:44,250 --> 02:19:47,610
social media will be used for.
Well, let's see how many likes

2331
02:19:47,610 --> 02:19:50,280
you have. Let's see what people
say about you. Are you that's

2332
02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:53,580
that's how credit ratings are
going to be determined. And

2333
02:19:53,580 --> 02:19:57,450
maybe we'll all have a sesame
card on I don't know. I don't

2334
02:19:57,450 --> 02:19:58,740
like that part about Jack Ma

2335
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:01,920
Well he's all jubilant about it.

2336
02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:05,970
Yeah that's the that's the
problem. Yeah, I agree.

2337
02:20:08,490 --> 02:20:13,500
All right. Don't want to hear I
disagree really kind of like

2338
02:20:13,500 --> 02:20:17,370
Davos on the I think it I don't
believe this was at Davos. But

2339
02:20:17,370 --> 02:20:20,130
it was Theresa May guy.

2340
02:20:20,130 --> 02:20:24,060
Yes. The big break and a couple
of the big Brexit speech. Yeah,

2341
02:20:24,059 --> 02:20:26,249
give me firstly we can listen if
you want to listen to a little

2342
02:20:26,249 --> 02:20:30,359
bit of back and forth with Angus
Robertson, the head of Scotland

2343
02:20:32,219 --> 02:20:38,069
asking a question. That is kind
of mean spirited or you want to

2344
02:20:38,069 --> 02:20:40,589
hear Theresa and her little
speech. Let's go with the speech

2345
02:20:40,589 --> 02:20:44,969
she has here. Theresa May on
Brexit on PBS. I

2346
02:20:44,969 --> 02:20:49,379
listened to it last night when I
was in bed. And it was so

2347
02:20:49,379 --> 02:20:49,889
boring.

2348
02:20:50,130 --> 02:20:53,460
British Prime Minister Theresa
May declared today that her

2349
02:20:53,460 --> 02:20:57,420
government wants a clean break
from the European Union. Mei

2350
02:20:57,420 --> 02:21:01,080
laid out her thinking as Britain
gets ready to negotiate terms

2351
02:21:01,080 --> 02:21:04,410
for leaving the EU. She
confirmed it means an end to

2352
02:21:04,410 --> 02:21:08,610
Britain's role in Europe single
market and to travel without

2353
02:21:08,610 --> 02:21:11,490
passports. But she also issued a
warning.

2354
02:21:12,030 --> 02:21:15,690
I know there are some voices
calling for a punitive deal that

2355
02:21:15,690 --> 02:21:19,290
punishes Britain and discourages
other countries from taking the

2356
02:21:19,290 --> 02:21:24,750
same path. That would be an act
of kilometers self harm for the

2357
02:21:24,750 --> 02:21:28,110
countries of Europe. And it
would not be the act of a

2358
02:21:28,110 --> 02:21:33,330
friend. Britain would not indeed
we could not accept such an

2359
02:21:33,330 --> 02:21:33,960
approach.

2360
02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:40,320
I'd like to play the EURO NEWS
response from Brussels to her

2361
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:40,710
speech.

2362
02:21:43,830 --> 02:21:47,040
I was gonna say this seemed like
a veiled threat.

2363
02:21:49,110 --> 02:21:49,980
In what regard?

2364
02:21:50,520 --> 02:21:53,880
She says that we're not going to
put up with anybody messing with

2365
02:21:53,880 --> 02:21:57,600
us, because we're doing this.
Yeah. And and before you play

2366
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:00,150
your clip, which you should
play, you should also listen to

2367
02:22:00,150 --> 02:22:03,750
the second the second little
gotcha in this thing, which I

2368
02:22:03,750 --> 02:22:05,760
thought was just like
outrageous, but this is the

2369
02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:08,580
parliament vote on the final
deal, which actually follow what

2370
02:22:08,580 --> 02:22:10,170
you just said with this

2371
02:22:10,350 --> 02:22:13,680
may also promise that Parliament
will be able to vote on the

2372
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,320
final deal likely in 2019.

2373
02:22:20,880 --> 02:22:22,980
That's how long it will take for
the negotiation.

2374
02:22:23,370 --> 02:22:25,950
That's not it. No, that's before
the negotiate. That's just to

2375
02:22:25,950 --> 02:22:30,570
say, Okay, let's yes, no, yes,
two

2376
02:22:30,569 --> 02:22:32,579
years before they even vote.

2377
02:22:33,330 --> 02:22:35,250
Let's get down and we're gonna
keep talking about this two

2378
02:22:35,250 --> 02:22:37,410
years after article 50.

2379
02:22:37,469 --> 02:22:39,839
Oh, my goodness. Well, let's
let's Yes. And yeah, I think

2380
02:22:39,839 --> 02:22:43,109
you're right, actually, here's
the douchebags in Brussels.

2381
02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:46,290
British Prime Minister Theresa
May has been accused of wanting

2382
02:22:46,290 --> 02:22:49,680
to cherry pick European union
benefits in her speech setting

2383
02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:53,250
out her Brexit priorities. While
she stressed Britain will quit

2384
02:22:53,250 --> 02:22:56,310
the EU single market. She also
said she'd seek a separate trade

2385
02:22:56,310 --> 02:22:59,730
agreement. The EU's Brexit
negotiator was unimpressed.

2386
02:22:59,969 --> 02:23:05,249
We shall never accept a
situation in which it is better

2387
02:23:05,249 --> 02:23:09,989
to be outside the European Union
outside the single market than

2388
02:23:10,019 --> 02:23:15,479
to be a member of the European
Union. If you want the

2389
02:23:15,479 --> 02:23:18,689
advantages of a single market
and Customs Union, you have to

2390
02:23:18,689 --> 02:23:21,929
take also the obligations we
need to fair agreement and

2391
02:23:21,929 --> 02:23:24,359
certainly not on the on the
trend.

2392
02:23:25,350 --> 02:23:28,380
Some political leaders in the EU
may have given a lukewarm

2393
02:23:28,380 --> 02:23:31,560
reception to my speech, but in
London, her Brexit minister

2394
02:23:31,560 --> 02:23:34,530
David Davis said his job was to
persuade Europe that a

2395
02:23:34,530 --> 02:23:38,520
reciprocal deal would be best
approach is not about

2396
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:42,840
cherry picking, but reaching a
deal which fits the aims of both

2397
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:45,900
sides. We understand the EU
wants to preserve its four

2398
02:23:45,900 --> 02:23:49,800
freedoms and to chart its own
course, pretty much every

2399
02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:52,980
country in the world that's not
subject to sanctions has access

2400
02:23:52,980 --> 02:23:56,070
to the single market, we will
have access to the single

2401
02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:57,870
market. The question that this
is about

2402
02:23:57,900 --> 02:23:58,770
is the terms.

2403
02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:02,400
So Brexit talks are expected to
be one of the most complicated

2404
02:24:02,400 --> 02:24:06,060
negotiations in post world war
two European history. Brussels

2405
02:24:06,060 --> 02:24:09,210
has described May's aim of
wrapping them up in two years as

2406
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:10,200
ambitious

2407
02:24:10,350 --> 02:24:13,140
to hear they say talking about
wrapping it up in two years.

2408
02:24:14,460 --> 02:24:16,200
Which would you heard the last
word?

2409
02:24:16,680 --> 02:24:21,510
It's ambitious? It's it's
ambitious. Yeah. Why is that? Is

2410
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:25,410
that so hard? Actually, I guess
so if you look at all the

2411
02:24:25,410 --> 02:24:29,970
treaties and everything has been
signed, that goes back to 1950

2412
02:24:30,810 --> 02:24:35,070
with the European atomic and it
was at the Atomic Energy Union.

2413
02:24:35,070 --> 02:24:36,840
I think it was It started off
that way.

2414
02:24:37,650 --> 02:24:40,290
I don't remember I mean, she
gets retold a number of

2415
02:24:40,590 --> 02:24:45,150
so many treaties. Yeah, it's a
mess is great for lawyers. It's

2416
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:46,050
fantastic.

2417
02:24:49,500 --> 02:24:54,420
But here we go. Let's go to
Parliament. Yeah. And play may

2418
02:24:54,420 --> 02:24:59,010
vs. Angus, part one. Hold on.

2419
02:25:00,359 --> 02:25:01,559
Yeah, I got it

2420
02:25:01,619 --> 02:25:07,589
the robot son. And shortly after
the prime minister confirmed

2421
02:25:07,589 --> 02:25:10,709
that she wants to take the UK
out of the single European

2422
02:25:10,979 --> 02:25:15,449
market, the Scottish Parliament
voted by a large cross party

2423
02:25:15,479 --> 02:25:21,299
majority to remain in the single
European market, just as a large

2424
02:25:21,299 --> 02:25:26,339
majority of people in Scotland
voted to remain in the European

2425
02:25:26,459 --> 02:25:30,689
Union. The Prime Minister has
said the prime minister said

2426
02:25:30,779 --> 02:25:34,799
that Scotland is an equal
partner in the United Kingdom.

2427
02:25:35,009 --> 02:25:38,249
Does she still believe this is
true? Or if you just stringing

2428
02:25:38,249 --> 02:25:39,659
the people of Scotland along?

2429
02:25:41,700 --> 02:25:45,330
I gave I might refer the Right
Honourable gentleman to my

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02:25:45,330 --> 02:25:48,390
speech yesterday, where I
reiterated my commitment to be

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02:25:48,390 --> 02:25:51,540
working with the devolved
administration's to ensure that

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02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:54,300
their voices heard that their
interests are taken into account

2433
02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:57,660
as we proceed along this path of
negotiating our exit from the

2434
02:25:57,660 --> 02:26:01,410
European Union. And also I
specifically referenced the

2435
02:26:01,410 --> 02:26:03,570
Scotland plan. I understand the
Welsh Government will be

2436
02:26:03,570 --> 02:26:07,920
producing a plan for Wales. For
us to look at to that Scotland

2437
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:11,760
plan will be being considered by
the JMC on European negotiations

2438
02:26:11,820 --> 02:26:14,700
tomorrow, I believe we will be
looking at it seriously. I'm

2439
02:26:14,700 --> 02:26:16,830
working with the Scottish
Government on the proposals they

2440
02:26:16,830 --> 02:26:17,430
bring forward

2441
02:26:17,460 --> 02:26:22,050
because Roberts, Scotland's
leading economic forecaster says

2442
02:26:22,050 --> 02:26:30,780
and I quote that real wages will
fall Tories jeering and cheering

2443
02:26:31,260 --> 02:26:35,610
when the forecast for people's
income isn't as likely to drop

2444
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:44,010
by 2000 pounds. And the 18,000
Mr. Speaker that 80,000 People

2445
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:49,590
may lose their jobs in Scotland
as a result of the heart theory

2446
02:26:49,620 --> 02:26:55,230
break Brexit plan of the prime
minister. The prime minister

2447
02:26:55,230 --> 02:27:00,330
believes that this is a price
worth paying for her Little

2448
02:27:00,420 --> 02:27:01,740
Britain Brexit.

2449
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:09,450
Little Britain Brexit

2450
02:27:09,479 --> 02:27:14,909
Yeah, Little Britain Brexit.
Angus, you want to play the

2451
02:27:14,909 --> 02:27:15,359
second one?

2452
02:27:15,540 --> 02:27:19,950
Yeah, you can play the same way
this is her answer and pretty

2453
02:27:19,950 --> 02:27:23,370
much the same, then she kind of
does the put down line you have

2454
02:27:23,370 --> 02:27:25,890
to do traditionally at the end
of the little spiel

2455
02:27:27,809 --> 02:27:30,389
for her Little Britain, Brexit.

2456
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:35,490
I repeat what I said earlier, we
will be working to ensure that

2457
02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:38,790
we get the best possible deal in
terms of access to the single

2458
02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:41,880
market and continuing to
cooperate in partnership with

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02:27:41,880 --> 02:27:44,880
the member states of the
remaining 27 member states of

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02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:47,670
the European Union. But the
Right Honourable gentleman, once

2461
02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:52,800
again, called talks about the
possibility of negative impact

2462
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,710
on Scotland. If Scotland were
not part of the single market,

2463
02:27:55,920 --> 02:28:02,610
his party is dedicated to taking
Scotland out of the single out

2464
02:28:03,540 --> 02:28:04,500
the United Kingdom.

2465
02:28:07,559 --> 02:28:10,829
I wish it was like that here in
the States. That's so fun the

2466
02:28:10,829 --> 02:28:14,819
way they do that. It is fun. I
like it. I like it.

2467
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:21,180
Question comes to mind kind of
what are they doing different in

2468
02:28:21,180 --> 02:28:24,270
the EU and they're running it
out of Brussels and you talked

2469
02:28:24,270 --> 02:28:27,060
about the situation with you and
your inability to get your

2470
02:28:27,060 --> 02:28:32,850
passport approved to go to
Europe on the last show. And

2471
02:28:32,910 --> 02:28:36,060
everybody was was afraid. How
are they what are they doing

2472
02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:41,400
differently? Because if you look
at the UK, the UK has really

2473
02:28:41,700 --> 02:28:45,390
what four kingdoms has got
Northern Ireland, Wales, and

2474
02:28:45,390 --> 02:28:50,640
Scotland, and and England,
Britain, England, England. And

2475
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:55,980
so you have these four groups,
they all speak English. And they

2476
02:28:55,980 --> 02:28:59,850
can't get along with each other.
You take good transfer that to

2477
02:28:59,850 --> 02:29:05,610
the EU, where you have the 26
countries or 27. And they all

2478
02:29:05,610 --> 02:29:10,470
speak different languages. They
never got along with each other

2479
02:29:10,470 --> 02:29:13,620
historically, ever much the same
way the Scottson though, and the

2480
02:29:13,620 --> 02:29:17,280
English never got along with
each other. But that seems to be

2481
02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:21,900
working better in terms of this
in terms of whatever system they

2482
02:29:21,900 --> 02:29:24,810
have, overseeing the whole thing
which is nothing close to a

2483
02:29:24,810 --> 02:29:29,010
democracy. And so it's a it's a
form of bureaucratic dictators

2484
02:29:29,010 --> 02:29:33,060
of bureaucratic dictatorship for
all practical purposes run out

2485
02:29:33,060 --> 02:29:33,750
of Brussels

2486
02:29:33,780 --> 02:29:37,890
based on lies that sovereignty
would remain. But once you have

2487
02:29:37,890 --> 02:29:43,620
people's money once you have the
banks we have the fiscal union

2488
02:29:43,650 --> 02:29:49,080
they got the banks under
control. That's it. That's it.

2489
02:29:50,880 --> 02:29:53,340
We got to move along because
we're running long today. I want

2490
02:29:53,340 --> 02:29:57,570
to be too long. I do need to
play just a little bit of Well,

2491
02:29:57,570 --> 02:30:03,930
here's the Jamie began with the
Hey Have you read that? This is

2492
02:30:03,930 --> 02:30:08,310
not necessarily fake news. But
it is so incorrect that I might

2493
02:30:08,310 --> 02:30:13,560
as well classify it as such on
Fox. I told you many weeks ago

2494
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:17,280
that the Clinton Global months
ago actually, the Clinton Global

2495
02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:22,080
Initiative is shutting down and
out of Bill Clinton's own mouth.

2496
02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:24,840
Yeah, the sponsors are going,
you know, they got other things

2497
02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:27,600
to do. Yes, we know where the
money's going. It's going to

2498
02:30:27,630 --> 02:30:30,030
Obama's My Brother's Keeper
Foundation, which I think at

2499
02:30:30,030 --> 02:30:32,940
this point has about $200
million committed. That's why

2500
02:30:32,940 --> 02:30:36,720
he's staying in Washington. And
it was well known that this was

2501
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:41,010
going to happen. But somehow Fox
is convoluted this the Clinton

2502
02:30:41,010 --> 02:30:43,770
Global Initiative into the
Clinton Foundation and they come

2503
02:30:43,770 --> 02:30:46,470
up with this report, which is
really crap. We

2504
02:30:46,469 --> 02:30:49,979
begin with the controversial
Clinton Global Initiative.

2505
02:30:49,979 --> 02:30:53,969
Remember that? Well, they're
closing the doors for good. This

2506
02:30:53,969 --> 02:30:56,579
comes after Hillary Clinton's
crushing loss in the

2507
02:30:56,579 --> 02:30:59,879
presidential election this
November and months after

2508
02:30:59,879 --> 02:31:03,719
WikiLeaks uncovered emails that
reportedly showed corrupt

2509
02:31:03,719 --> 02:31:07,709
management helping donors get
political access, rather than

2510
02:31:07,709 --> 02:31:10,799
focusing on charitable work
around the world. Employee

2511
02:31:10,799 --> 02:31:13,979
layoffs take effect in April
factcheck. False Yeah,

2512
02:31:14,010 --> 02:31:17,310
that's incorrect. It was not
about the Clinton Global

2513
02:31:17,310 --> 02:31:21,720
Initiative was about the Clinton
Foundation. And I think that

2514
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:25,800
what you'll see now in these in
these urban myths, you know,

2515
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:30,780
like, Assad used chemical
weapons, which has been

2516
02:31:30,780 --> 02:31:34,470
disproven. It'll be Oh, they
shut it down, though. I mean,

2517
02:31:34,470 --> 02:31:37,380
people will actually believe
that and even are already

2518
02:31:37,380 --> 02:31:40,680
believing and even crazier.
Although we still not surfaced.

2519
02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:43,500
Former CEO of the Clinton
Foundation, now Global

2520
02:31:43,500 --> 02:31:47,310
Initiative Foundation, by Erik
Braverman apparently, is going

2521
02:31:47,310 --> 02:31:51,720
to work for the Google
nonprofit, which is run by Eric

2522
02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:55,080
Schmidt. Now we have not seen
the guy. We don't know if he's

2523
02:31:55,080 --> 02:31:57,780
actually alive, but that is
where he will be turning up.

2524
02:31:57,810 --> 02:31:59,070
Apparently. It'd

2525
02:31:59,069 --> 02:32:01,979
be at the lunch room over at
Google just eating chowing down.

2526
02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:06,450
I'm gonna show my mood but
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

2527
02:32:06,450 --> 02:32:08,970
the people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun.

2528
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:20,400
We do have a few people to thank
including Dame Karen of Cimarron

2529
02:32:20,400 --> 02:32:25,860
Hill, Colorado Springs, Colorado
$119.17. With a note I should

2530
02:32:25,860 --> 02:32:29,550
read. Today's very special
episode donation will be the buy

2531
02:32:29,550 --> 02:32:33,990
by Obama donation commemorating
his last day in office.

2532
02:32:34,350 --> 02:32:38,820
Hopefully the White House door
smacks him on the way out of a

2533
02:32:38,820 --> 02:32:42,600
bye bye Obama jingle request of
Obama. No, no, no mix dealer's

2534
02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:46,740
choice Obama you might die and
Thanks, Obama. Yeah, for doing

2535
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:49,920
it. Thanks for doing what you
do. And you put that at the end.

2536
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:51,990
It could be chuck it in Yeah,

2537
02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:56,790
I'll do the Cucaracha that's the
one you like to do. Yes.

2538
02:32:56,969 --> 02:33:02,909
Brett Kerr Hoffer in Aurora,
Illinois. $112.35. I was hitting

2539
02:33:02,909 --> 02:33:05,399
the mouse by a friend Joe a
while ago I've been meaning to

2540
02:33:05,399 --> 02:33:10,829
donate. Him He says you harp on
me for being a douche bag will

2541
02:33:10,829 --> 02:33:17,909
no longer good. Benjamin verde
Chapman $101 and the Kluber

2542
02:33:17,909 --> 02:33:20,309
boobs Boobs. Boobs. Boobs boobs,

2543
02:33:20,339 --> 02:33:24,209
boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs.
boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs.

2544
02:33:25,349 --> 02:33:31,109
boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs,
boobs. Boobs Boobs. Boobs boobs

2545
02:33:31,109 --> 02:33:31,499
now

2546
02:33:31,860 --> 02:33:34,650
there was no boob link that I
know of in the last newsletter

2547
02:33:34,650 --> 02:33:34,830
but

2548
02:33:34,829 --> 02:33:36,869
catching on man the boobs are
catching on.

2549
02:33:38,370 --> 02:33:42,600
Sir blam was got a birthday
coming up late

2550
02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:45,480
oh wait and I will mention if
you have not seen the

2551
02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:49,770
newsletter, dig it up. You had a
really great piece in there

2552
02:33:49,770 --> 02:33:52,410
about using POP money which we
don't have to go into explaining

2553
02:33:52,410 --> 02:33:55,350
how it works. But I've also
heard all the kids use all the

2554
02:33:55,350 --> 02:33:57,870
cool kids use POP money now
everyone's using POP money Venmo

2555
02:33:57,870 --> 02:34:00,180
was cool and Venmo is out now
it's all pop money

2556
02:34:00,870 --> 02:34:04,500
pop money it turns out I would
just mention this part. I did

2557
02:34:04,500 --> 02:34:07,380
get a notice today somebody put
some money in pop money came in

2558
02:34:07,380 --> 02:34:09,450
the email which I would complain
that didn't happen before you

2559
02:34:09,450 --> 02:34:13,980
have to go look it up. And it
was also done through a credit

2560
02:34:13,980 --> 02:34:16,110
union a lot of credit unions
appear on

2561
02:34:16,110 --> 02:34:20,640
this load log money credit union
I love my credit union credit

2562
02:34:20,639 --> 02:34:23,579
unions look in your credit union
system and see if they they've

2563
02:34:23,579 --> 02:34:26,099
actually done a deal like most a
lot of credit unions have done

2564
02:34:26,099 --> 02:34:29,969
this with pop money for money
transfers. Yeah.

2565
02:34:30,930 --> 02:34:34,260
That does yours. Look I'm sure
it does. I haven't diamond

2566
02:34:34,260 --> 02:34:35,910
checked. It's very interesting.

2567
02:34:35,940 --> 02:34:40,050
Good dev work by the executive
management of the pop money up

2568
02:34:40,050 --> 02:34:42,750
good for Yeah, very good work.
Love it. Sir. Roger boots,

2569
02:34:42,750 --> 02:34:47,100
Mechanicsville, Iowa 808
Christopher trop Sturgis,

2570
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:54,060
Michigan 808. And D Carruthers.
Tumwater Washington 808 And she

2571
02:34:54,060 --> 02:34:57,180
sent a card she's got a birthday
card to Keith Carlisle, but she

2572
02:34:57,180 --> 02:35:00,540
sent his birth not a birthday
card but a one was cards a

2573
02:35:00,540 --> 02:35:04,020
greeting card which was
appreciated in the mail with a

2574
02:35:04,020 --> 02:35:07,680
check and she's guy says hello
from Washington where the flu

2575
02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:11,730
shot reminders are abundant.
Thank you for helping me keep my

2576
02:35:11,730 --> 02:35:15,300
sanity. They send a birthday
shout out and it's just a loving

2577
02:35:15,300 --> 02:35:20,430
light. And then she has these
some sort of sticky letters it

2578
02:35:20,430 --> 02:35:26,220
says in the morning love Di Di
for Diana in the morning and

2579
02:35:26,220 --> 02:35:30,900
these are like spongy letters
that are covered with glitter. I

2580
02:35:30,900 --> 02:35:33,150
don't know where she got these
but she obviously goes to one of

2581
02:35:33,150 --> 02:35:41,730
those crafts stores. Jill Holly
Hobby Lobby Launch Pad Michaels?

2582
02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:49,410
Pat till Philly in Montreal
Quebec 7777 en en en E and

2583
02:35:49,410 --> 02:35:55,620
Larson in Riverhead, New
Zealand. 7175 7175 is left hacks

2584
02:35:55,620 --> 02:36:00,540
are for tits. I'm a little crude
so boob is not in my donation

2585
02:36:00,540 --> 02:36:10,950
vocabulary Hello, hello, sir
Rick, in Arlington, Washington

2586
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:16,320
6933 Robert Gusa gusta oosik
Double nickels on the dime along

2587
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:20,400
with Dean Roker parts I know
he's in the UK Dean is Aaron

2588
02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:24,420
Lambert and Tumwater. Washington
5433. Sir Kevin Payne in

2589
02:36:24,420 --> 02:36:29,460
Richmond, Virginia 5432. Sir
Dunford in are marked down for

2590
02:36:29,460 --> 02:36:34,740
in Waco, Texas. 50 MIGUEZ
magotteaux In Berwyn, Illinois.

2591
02:36:34,740 --> 02:36:40,020
50. Audrey Simes si mes in St.
Louis, Missouri

2592
02:36:40,050 --> 02:36:43,860
as a douchebag call out let me
see douchebag and birthday shout

2593
02:36:43,860 --> 02:36:47,460
out to the love of my life.
Charlie Sirpa who I successfully

2594
02:36:47,460 --> 02:36:50,910
hit in the mouth. A couple that
no agendas together stays

2595
02:36:50,910 --> 02:36:53,910
together. Thank you for your
amazing deconstruction of the

2596
02:36:53,910 --> 02:36:57,090
media and for helping us make
sense. Okay, so douchebag for

2597
02:36:57,090 --> 02:37:00,180
Charlie surprise. There you go.

2598
02:37:00,270 --> 02:37:03,240
Is she on the birthday? Listen,
I remember seeing an Audrey.

2599
02:37:04,050 --> 02:37:08,760
I'll check. On where with the
list. Yes on the list. The

2600
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:12,540
following people or $50 donors
name and location, Linda McCoy,

2601
02:37:13,260 --> 02:37:18,990
McElroy, Linda McEvoy in Dublin,
Ireland. We're talking about

2602
02:37:18,990 --> 02:37:24,270
that. Greg dial in parts unknown
and Machado Hodge dry in

2603
02:37:24,270 --> 02:37:28,740
Danville, Virginia. John camp
and antlers Oklahoma favorite

2604
02:37:28,740 --> 02:37:33,300
town name. Jason Clegg in San
Diego, California Kevin Porter

2605
02:37:33,300 --> 02:37:37,860
in Beavercreek, Ohio, Andrew
Goseck in Greensboro, North

2606
02:37:37,860 --> 02:37:44,310
Carolina, Sean Smith and Ashlyn
Tennessee, Brian noni in Smyrna,

2607
02:37:44,310 --> 02:37:47,640
Georgia. Michael gates in
Colorado Springs, Colorado,

2608
02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:52,800
Israel Casarez Parts Unknown
Scott lavender in Montgomery,

2609
02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:59,070
Texas, Joel de ruin, USA Bill
LeClaire slowly I turned in

2610
02:37:59,070 --> 02:38:04,020
Riverdale mass in Michigan.
ANDREW HARRISON and Gravenhurst

2611
02:38:04,020 --> 02:38:08,340
on terlato 50s today Yeah, Paul
Rudkin in Canada somewhere, IRC

2612
02:38:08,340 --> 02:38:14,970
and we're seeing scabby Canada.
See, I think, Well, anyway,

2613
02:38:14,970 --> 02:38:20,880
Paul, sorry. Beaumont Proudfoot
in holidays. Holidays point New

2614
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:24,240
South Wales, Australia. You run
into him at the meetup. Matthew

2615
02:38:24,240 --> 02:38:29,340
Mongan in Baltimore, Maryland.
And last but not least, Benjamin

2616
02:38:29,340 --> 02:38:32,700
Wilson in Hummelstown,
Pennsylvania and Susan Johnson

2617
02:38:32,700 --> 02:38:37,440
in Newberg, Oregon. Cn is China
John. Oh, okay. Oh, that's

2618
02:38:37,440 --> 02:38:39,600
right. Yeah, he's in China.
Yeah. China,

2619
02:38:39,810 --> 02:38:47,040
China, China. Very good. I have
two quick notes to read. First

2620
02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:50,640
from Sir Rory stone. This is a
night in need. He says in

2621
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:54,390
massive need of job karma ASAP
due to being unemployed since

2622
02:38:54,390 --> 02:38:57,900
September basically can't afford
to donate currently but will be

2623
02:38:57,900 --> 02:39:01,260
the best donor in South Dakota.
Episode One listening and

2624
02:39:01,260 --> 02:39:04,110
growing older with two of you
has been very rewarding as a

2625
02:39:04,110 --> 02:39:07,320
producer listener to Rory stone.
So let me give that to him right

2626
02:39:07,320 --> 02:39:09,900
now. This would be jobs karma,

2627
02:39:10,170 --> 02:39:15,300
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs.

2628
02:39:17,219 --> 02:39:18,869
You've got karma.

2629
02:39:19,950 --> 02:39:25,770
And I got another big box. Here
the crackpot condo from our

2630
02:39:25,770 --> 02:39:29,430
friend Duggar it's very
interesting. The box was filled

2631
02:39:29,430 --> 02:39:33,510
with he said okay the cookies he
put some home baked chocolate

2632
02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:36,810
chip cookies in there are not
repeat not magical, just your

2633
02:39:36,810 --> 02:39:40,020
basic chocolate chip and sugar
cookie. The flight calculators

2634
02:39:40,020 --> 02:39:43,080
he put it in very interesting
box to flight calculators which

2635
02:39:43,080 --> 02:39:47,820
are kind of like a slide rule
with extended bits on it so you

2636
02:39:47,820 --> 02:39:50,880
can calculate crosswind
components, etc. which I haven't

2637
02:39:50,910 --> 02:39:53,070
I don't even have them anymore
but I did learn how to use them

2638
02:39:53,070 --> 02:39:55,590
when I was flying. He found
those out they were kind of

2639
02:39:55,590 --> 02:40:00,510
funny mini deck of cards and he
says the mushrooms and As a bag

2640
02:40:00,510 --> 02:40:06,900
of shrooms are magical. So
always start small. I love Oh,

2641
02:40:06,900 --> 02:40:10,530
wow, our producer just sent me
drugs. Very interesting.

2642
02:40:10,560 --> 02:40:13,830
He sent me a box too without the
drugs. You didn't get shrooms?

2643
02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:15,510
No, no, no. Why

2644
02:40:15,510 --> 02:40:16,500
did you get in the box?

2645
02:40:16,859 --> 02:40:18,899
I got a Mennonite cookbook.

2646
02:40:20,610 --> 02:40:23,850
I love our producers, man.
Fantastic. Well, I will try

2647
02:40:23,850 --> 02:40:27,840
them. I've never done true. I
will try them. Not on a prep

2648
02:40:27,840 --> 02:40:28,110
night.

2649
02:40:29,220 --> 02:40:33,870
Yeah. Some day actually, after a
Sunday show on your board might

2650
02:40:33,870 --> 02:40:34,800
not be a bad time.

2651
02:40:35,880 --> 02:40:40,800
No, because I'm so tired is
perfect. How do you know have

2652
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:40,980
you ever

2653
02:40:40,979 --> 02:40:43,529
done shrooms? I don't talk about
things like that.

2654
02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:47,190
Okay, thank you all so much for
your support of our program. The

2655
02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:51,570
best podcast in the universe.
$50 or more of course, under 50

2656
02:40:51,570 --> 02:40:54,210
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2657
02:40:54,300 --> 02:40:57,150
great subscriptions that you can
contribute to the program and

2658
02:40:57,150 --> 02:41:00,090
please keep all of the artwork,
the jingles, the clips, the

2659
02:41:00,090 --> 02:41:03,000
information, keep it coming.
That is why it works true

2660
02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:05,700
participation media value for
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2661
02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:10,500
coming up on Sunday
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2662
02:41:17,610 --> 02:41:20,070
And today, we congratulate your
herb lamb celebrating on the

2663
02:41:20,070 --> 02:41:23,550
21st of January D Carruthers
says Happy Birthday to Keith

2664
02:41:23,880 --> 02:41:27,450
Carlisle he celebrated on the
16th and Audrey Symes as happy

2665
02:41:27,450 --> 02:41:30,180
birthday for the love of her
life. And well he's now a

2666
02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:33,000
douchebag Charlie surprise. He
celebrated yesterday happy

2667
02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:35,100
birthday from all your buddies
here the best podcast in the

2668
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:40,740
universe. And no nights no
nights, John, we have no nights

2669
02:41:40,740 --> 02:41:43,800
no nothing. I have a question
for you though. I would actually

2670
02:41:43,800 --> 02:41:48,570
make an observation. As we move
into the Depression era, this is

2671
02:41:48,570 --> 02:41:51,450
a setup for your book, of
course. Yes. As we move into the

2672
02:41:51,450 --> 02:41:54,060
Depression era, we have
depression food, we've obviously

2673
02:41:54,060 --> 02:41:57,630
we have the bugs, we have mac
and cheese, but I've noticed

2674
02:41:57,630 --> 02:42:01,260
something else that's been
happening in Austin. And whether

2675
02:42:01,260 --> 02:42:06,420
you make an appointment for you
to get your hair cut, whether

2676
02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:09,660
you make an appointment at a
restaurant, reservation at a

2677
02:42:09,660 --> 02:42:14,370
restaurant, more and more
companies are saying, yeah, it's

2678
02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:19,800
hairdressers. Yeah, I need your
credit card as a deposit. When

2679
02:42:19,800 --> 02:42:21,900
did this become trend?

2680
02:42:23,880 --> 02:42:30,360
Well, I don't know that this is
going on here at all. I know

2681
02:42:30,360 --> 02:42:33,630
there are a minimum number of
restaurants that require this

2682
02:42:33,630 --> 02:42:37,080
but they're very high end. And
you're expected to drop like

2683
02:42:37,080 --> 02:42:38,910
$300 they had at least

2684
02:42:39,090 --> 02:42:41,340
these are just regular
restaurants. They regular

2685
02:42:41,340 --> 02:42:44,070
restaurants, hairdressers, and
hairdressers

2686
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:46,290
does not I'm telling you.
There's not no but nothing like

2687
02:42:46,290 --> 02:42:47,820
that. This is a local
phenomenon.

2688
02:42:48,090 --> 02:42:54,450
And Christina went to get her
claws and paws yet the manicure

2689
02:42:54,930 --> 02:42:59,100
credit card deposit in Europe,
right here when she was here.

2690
02:42:59,130 --> 02:43:03,000
Okay, just again as a local
phenomenon. You got some crooks

2691
02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:06,090
there that are taken advantage
of these people are goofballs,

2692
02:43:06,090 --> 02:43:08,160
that are just making
reservations just to kill their

2693
02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:08,730
business.

2694
02:43:09,330 --> 02:43:13,410
Well, I'd like to know if any of
your business Wargo maybe maybe

2695
02:43:13,410 --> 02:43:17,400
other people have this in their
town. I don't know. I watched

2696
02:43:17,400 --> 02:43:23,100
the game with Dallas. Holy crap.
I'm glad I watched that game in

2697
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:27,330
a great game. Oh my god. The
end. That was fantastic. Yes,

2698
02:43:27,360 --> 02:43:32,400
Aaron Rodgers is kick ass. It
was. It was very exciting game.

2699
02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:37,350
I like that a lot. And since we
only have four teams left, we

2700
02:43:37,350 --> 02:43:40,290
have the New England Patriots
versus the Steelers and then we

2701
02:43:40,290 --> 02:43:43,710
have Green Bay Packers versus
the Atlanta Falcons. I think it

2702
02:43:43,710 --> 02:43:45,990
is time for us to determine who
will be the winner of the Super

2703
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:48,870
Bowl based upon no agenda
process of elimination

2704
02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:54,210
geopolitical geopolitical. Yes.
And I think I know

2705
02:43:54,660 --> 02:43:59,370
Okay, cuz I haven't no clue.
Well, and you are better at this

2706
02:43:59,370 --> 02:44:02,340
than I am. You have beaten me
May head to head a couple of

2707
02:44:02,340 --> 02:44:02,760
times.

2708
02:44:02,819 --> 02:44:09,719
So from a geopolitical
standpoint. Excuse me. We I know

2709
02:44:09,719 --> 02:44:13,919
what the end has to be. It has
to be the Steelers versus the

2710
02:44:13,919 --> 02:44:20,549
Packers. And the reason for that
is both Pittsburgh and Wisconsin

2711
02:44:20,549 --> 02:44:23,459
Green Bay. were incredibly
supportive of Trump. They

2712
02:44:23,459 --> 02:44:27,749
flipped and I am going to say
the Green Bay Packers take it

2713
02:44:27,749 --> 02:44:28,649
based on this.

2714
02:44:29,430 --> 02:44:32,820
Well, the Green Bay Packers can
manage to get past Atlanta which

2715
02:44:32,820 --> 02:44:35,730
is not a sure thing by any
means. Because Atlanta is a

2716
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:39,810
better team. But these things
they could because because

2717
02:44:40,200 --> 02:44:43,230
you're basing it on skill. I'm
basing it on it being rigged.

2718
02:44:43,559 --> 02:44:46,679
I know but yes, well if you're
basically I'm being rigged, they

2719
02:44:46,679 --> 02:44:49,649
have the excuse that because
here's the they have been

2720
02:44:49,649 --> 02:44:52,979
running a I have to give you
this. They've been running a

2721
02:44:53,309 --> 02:44:58,829
kind of a booty call it not a
litany but a storyline they've

2722
02:44:58,829 --> 02:45:02,609
been running the storyline. line
on Aaron Rodgers. He's come on

2723
02:45:02,609 --> 02:45:05,789
in the second half. This is how
many games in a row they've won.

2724
02:45:05,789 --> 02:45:09,419
He's the best rower ever. He's
giving you a very accurate

2725
02:45:09,419 --> 02:45:12,809
passer he's of everybody likes
him. He looks a little like Paul

2726
02:45:12,809 --> 02:45:17,969
Ryan is one thing after another
and so they've been running this

2727
02:45:17,969 --> 02:45:20,549
storyline. They have not been
running storylines on anybody

2728
02:45:20,549 --> 02:45:25,739
else. Except Dallas. And Dallas
was beaten by this guy. Yeah.

2729
02:45:25,769 --> 02:45:29,939
And so I think you might be onto
something. It's a possibility

2730
02:45:29,939 --> 02:45:33,149
when let's put it this way. I
wouldn't be stunned if that

2731
02:45:33,149 --> 02:45:35,069
happened. Right. But I who

2732
02:45:35,069 --> 02:45:39,779
was the who was the the catcher
who caught that pass and kept it

2733
02:45:39,779 --> 02:45:40,439
in bounds?

2734
02:45:40,920 --> 02:45:42,900
That I think is cookers one of
them. Oh, man,

2735
02:45:42,899 --> 02:45:43,769
that was great.

2736
02:45:44,250 --> 02:45:46,590
I really that was a pretty
phenomenal Yeah,

2737
02:45:46,620 --> 02:45:54,870
yeah. A follow up from our to to
the head category. I looked it

2738
02:45:54,870 --> 02:46:00,090
up. It was October 2014. That we
played a series of clips from

2739
02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:04,530
Udo cotta of build sometimes

2740
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:09,030
the intelligence agencies they
come to your office and want you

2741
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:13,050
to write an article I give you
an example not from strange

2742
02:46:13,080 --> 02:46:16,290
other journalists from me
myself, German foreign

2743
02:46:16,290 --> 02:46:21,240
intelligence, bunda Snapfish and
DNS. It is just a sister

2744
02:46:21,240 --> 02:46:24,090
organization of the Central
Intelligence Agency. It was

2745
02:46:24,090 --> 02:46:27,720
founded by the American
intelligence agency. So one day,

2746
02:46:28,440 --> 02:46:32,040
the BND this German foreign
intelligence agency came to my

2747
02:46:32,040 --> 02:46:35,130
office at the Frankfurter
Allgemeine and algemeiner So

2748
02:46:35,130 --> 02:46:39,840
they wanted me to write an
article about Libya and about

2749
02:46:40,050 --> 02:46:45,420
colonial Muammar Gaddafi. I had
no I had absolutely no secret

2750
02:46:45,420 --> 02:46:51,240
informations regarding Colin, no
Muammar Gaddafi, and Libya, but

2751
02:46:51,240 --> 02:46:56,100
they gave me all these secret
informations. And they just

2752
02:46:56,100 --> 02:47:00,600
wanted me to write to to sign
the article was by name. I did

2753
02:47:00,600 --> 02:47:05,070
that. But it was an article that
was published in the Frankfurt

2754
02:47:05,130 --> 02:47:09,780
algemeiner that originally came
from the Buddha's unofficial

2755
02:47:09,780 --> 02:47:13,590
deeds from the German foreign
intelligence agency. So do you

2756
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:17,070
really think that this is
journalism? intelligence

2757
02:47:17,100 --> 02:47:19,320
agencies writing articles?

2758
02:47:20,309 --> 02:47:23,099
By coincidence, I think two or
three shows ago you sent me an

2759
02:47:23,099 --> 02:47:25,529
email saying, Hey, this is good.
This is good. Let's talk about

2760
02:47:25,529 --> 02:47:28,919
this guy as we lead in talking
about media and how corrupt they

2761
02:47:28,919 --> 02:47:35,969
are. This guy died. He's dead
watch. Yeah. A few days before

2762
02:47:35,969 --> 02:47:37,829
it's 57th birthday heart attack.

2763
02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:43,320
He was probably told not to
mention any of this. Of course,

2764
02:47:43,320 --> 02:47:47,430
he was told not to mention any
of that. At heart attack, heart

2765
02:47:47,430 --> 02:47:49,350
failure, actually, they say
heart failure.

2766
02:47:49,920 --> 02:47:53,550
Yeah, Bill. prussic acid in the
face. 57 years old.

2767
02:47:54,960 --> 02:47:57,240
Beautiful. I also Roger Stone is

2768
02:47:57,240 --> 02:48:00,240
proud of you out there. They're
gonna use this material. Yes.

2769
02:48:00,480 --> 02:48:03,180
You have to if they tell you to
shut up, I guess you gotta shut

2770
02:48:03,180 --> 02:48:03,390
up.

2771
02:48:05,010 --> 02:48:09,780
Certainly avoid small aviation
and all that stuff. It's hot

2772
02:48:09,780 --> 02:48:15,000
tubs and hot tubs. One quickie
just a funny little entre Mall.

2773
02:48:16,470 --> 02:48:19,890
This was a question that was
asked during Janet Yellen, our

2774
02:48:19,890 --> 02:48:23,070
Chair of the fed the Federal
Reserve by one of the

2775
02:48:23,070 --> 02:48:27,180
journalists in the room, and I
just I think I fell over when I

2776
02:48:27,180 --> 02:48:27,390
heard

2777
02:48:27,389 --> 02:48:33,989
this it's my proud duty to
convey the questions that I've

2778
02:48:33,989 --> 02:48:34,769
been handed

2779
02:48:39,960 --> 02:48:42,720
my proud duty to ask you the
questions that I've been asked

2780
02:48:42,749 --> 02:48:49,709
this Yes, ask it oh man. And
it's just a modern world we live

2781
02:48:49,709 --> 02:48:49,949
in

2782
02:48:51,330 --> 02:48:55,470
we have time is short we're live
we're almost near the tail

2783
02:48:55,470 --> 02:48:57,990
I got a bunch of stuff I can I
can push this off because it's

2784
02:48:57,990 --> 02:48:58,470
really good.

2785
02:48:58,500 --> 02:49:00,990
I'd like to do tech news on
Sunday if you don't mind why

2786
02:49:00,990 --> 02:49:01,980
don't do tech news on sound

2787
02:49:01,980 --> 02:49:03,840
you want to do tech news on
Sunday you want to because I

2788
02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:06,090
have this Samantha Power stuff
that I can move forward?

2789
02:49:07,979 --> 02:49:10,949
Let me see if I Okay, I have
some I have some Well the funny

2790
02:49:10,949 --> 02:49:15,359
clips from the confirmation
hearings we can we can do on

2791
02:49:15,359 --> 02:49:17,939
Sunday that'll that'll stay
good. There's so much material

2792
02:49:17,939 --> 02:49:21,509
that almost no one has what we
have but some very funny stuff.

2793
02:49:22,709 --> 02:49:28,319
Okay, let's do some tech news.
Today phones a landline and the

2794
02:49:28,319 --> 02:49:37,829
phone should be made out of
Bakelite. Night Gianluca so

2795
02:49:37,830 --> 02:49:42,060
we started off the dad an hour
late Yes, because of this is not

2796
02:49:42,060 --> 02:49:44,910
really as much tech news as it
is tech complaining.

2797
02:49:45,120 --> 02:49:49,410
Well, let me start. Start this
off. By with last night

2798
02:49:49,410 --> 02:49:54,330
actually, two days ago. A your
pal and my pal Andrew Horowitz

2799
02:49:54,330 --> 02:49:58,140
said hey, I brew. I'd really
love to try streaming. D H

2800
02:49:58,140 --> 02:50:01,290
unplugged on Tuesday when you
guys were Record it. It's okay,

2801
02:50:01,290 --> 02:50:03,900
no problem. I'll set you up. So
I set him up and you know, talk

2802
02:50:03,900 --> 02:50:06,810
to void zero said invoice it,
ma'am. We can set it all up for

2803
02:50:06,810 --> 02:50:10,020
him. But just give me your
credentials, login. And then you

2804
02:50:10,020 --> 02:50:12,630
can test it out and see if you
like it. So I set it up with

2805
02:50:12,630 --> 02:50:15,600
him, and it'd be over the phone,
that's okay, now connect and

2806
02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:17,880
you're connected, sir. And you
couldn't connect. Like, that's

2807
02:50:17,880 --> 02:50:20,880
very odd. And I'm doing this
over the phone. So it's, um,

2808
02:50:20,880 --> 02:50:24,570
well, let me try. And I can't
connect. And of course, I've

2809
02:50:24,570 --> 02:50:27,870
changed nothing. I've changed
nothing in my setup that I know

2810
02:50:27,870 --> 02:50:30,780
of, I've rebooted but haven't
done anything else. And I can't

2811
02:50:30,780 --> 02:50:35,340
connect. And so and now it's,
it's like 1am and void zero, and

2812
02:50:35,340 --> 02:50:38,250
I ping him he's coming in today,
Look, man, it's too late for

2813
02:50:38,250 --> 02:50:42,120
you. We'll do it tomorrow. So
yesterday, for almost five

2814
02:50:42,120 --> 02:50:46,440
hours, we were trying to figure
this out. And here's the crate.

2815
02:50:46,440 --> 02:50:51,930
So essentially, what my computer
has to go through a port has to

2816
02:50:51,930 --> 02:50:56,880
connect to our, our streaming
server, and and then initiate

2817
02:50:56,880 --> 02:51:00,870
and then you send the stream,
and it would not connect. Now I

2818
02:51:00,870 --> 02:51:04,560
could tell that into the port.
And we were using TCP dump, you

2819
02:51:04,560 --> 02:51:07,800
know, to see if, if there's
anything showed up. And I would

2820
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:13,470
tell that in no problem, the
same port with shoutcast. It I

2821
02:51:13,470 --> 02:51:17,670
couldn't even get it to register
TCP dump on my own computer. In

2822
02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:22,290
other words, I was trying to
start a stream and with software

2823
02:51:22,290 --> 02:51:27,210
that is available and approved.
As far as I know. It's in the

2824
02:51:27,210 --> 02:51:30,510
App Store. So you know, it's
allowed to run within the apple

2825
02:51:30,510 --> 02:51:35,730
security environment, which is
where it gets kind of weird. But

2826
02:51:35,730 --> 02:51:39,330
you couldn't it was not the
program was not sending packets,

2827
02:51:39,660 --> 02:51:43,590
even to my Ethernet card. So and
we've tried every we're

2828
02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:48,240
tunneling through SSH, and we're
and he keeps saying it must be

2829
02:51:48,240 --> 02:51:51,840
your Mac, you know that? Come
on, man. I didn't upgrade. The

2830
02:51:51,840 --> 02:51:56,550
last system update was December
30. Well, turns out that Apple

2831
02:51:56,550 --> 02:52:03,030
has decided and not really
mentioned that they are refusing

2832
02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:09,660
anything that uses https 0.9.
And they're actually sandboxing

2833
02:52:09,660 --> 02:52:13,470
it. And I don't know when they
snuck this in because it didn't

2834
02:52:13,500 --> 02:52:17,340
happen to me after the December
30 update. But shoutcast

2835
02:52:17,340 --> 02:52:20,670
specifically uses HTTP 0.9.

2836
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:24,090
This is interesting, because
horror was also uses a Mac

2837
02:52:25,050 --> 02:52:28,170
it? Well, he would know, he
would know that it gets more

2838
02:52:28,170 --> 02:52:31,290
interesting because he was using
a Windows machine to do that.

2839
02:52:31,380 --> 02:52:36,150
And I think Windows has now also
sandboxes 0.9. But it's pretty

2840
02:52:36,150 --> 02:52:41,340
much not even mentioned. i They
I guess they don't think it's

2841
02:52:41,340 --> 02:52:44,400
important. To be honest, the
shoutcast protocol, it's old.

2842
02:52:44,400 --> 02:52:47,580
icecast is kind of where you
want it to be these days. I

2843
02:52:47,580 --> 02:52:51,600
don't the software I'm using
that I like using only support

2844
02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:56,010
shoutcast. But I don't think
they ever thought about that.

2845
02:52:56,010 --> 02:53:00,090
They just said I 0.9 Screw it,
it is actually affected people

2846
02:53:00,090 --> 02:53:04,590
in the reverse. If you're using
Safari, for instance, and you

2847
02:53:04,590 --> 02:53:08,640
want to listen to a shoutcast
stream, you can't get it in for

2848
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:11,850
the same reason you cannot
listen to a shoutcast stream, it

2849
02:53:11,850 --> 02:53:15,960
has to be icecast and this is
just completely undocumented.

2850
02:53:18,690 --> 02:53:23,850
Oh, yeah, Pa indeed. I put a
couple of links in the show

2851
02:53:23,850 --> 02:53:25,770
notes if people want to take a
look and see exactly what

2852
02:53:25,770 --> 02:53:29,550
happened eight, nine or six.no
agenda notes.com. And then this

2853
02:53:29,550 --> 02:53:35,280
morning. I every morning before
the show I reboot the router.

2854
02:53:35,490 --> 02:53:37,890
So before this morning, there'll
be for this money you've already

2855
02:53:37,890 --> 02:53:42,840
wasted 567 hours. God knows how
much time Yeah. Okay, just to

2856
02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:45,810
show you how much time you have
to use to make anything work.

2857
02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:49,950
And boy, were we happy when we
figured it out. Like holy crap,

2858
02:53:50,040 --> 02:53:54,450
that was insane. I mean,
checking firewalls, all kinds of

2859
02:53:54,450 --> 02:54:00,060
stuff. Then this morning, I
reboot my cable modem I reboot

2860
02:54:00,060 --> 02:54:04,680
the computer. And for routing
internally in the Mac, I use a

2861
02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:08,580
great product called a loopback
which allows you to create

2862
02:54:08,580 --> 02:54:12,780
virtual devices and that's
actually how I currently string

2863
02:54:12,780 --> 02:54:15,870
everything together to make it
work and Mac Apple is pretty

2864
02:54:15,870 --> 02:54:20,040
good mac OS were their core
audio. But I did not know that

2865
02:54:20,040 --> 02:54:24,690
this loopback probe product from
Rogue Amiga had install

2866
02:54:24,690 --> 02:54:29,070
automatic updates on that I've
never looked at that. And so I'm

2867
02:54:29,070 --> 02:54:31,710
like well something's wrong. I
opened up loopback Oh, yeah,

2868
02:54:31,740 --> 02:54:34,500
well you need to update it won't
work until you've updated and by

2869
02:54:34,500 --> 02:54:38,460
the way you can't update because
Skype is using it and your and

2870
02:54:38,460 --> 02:54:43,980
your audio system is using it.
So I I changed that and then we

2871
02:54:43,980 --> 02:54:48,180
just couldn't get it to work. I
spent another hour before I

2872
02:54:48,180 --> 02:54:53,370
finally had everything updated
properly. And you know, I don't

2873
02:54:53,370 --> 02:54:57,360
mind updates. But this doing
stuff without telling people is

2874
02:54:57,360 --> 02:54:59,700
bull crap man is bullcrap.

2875
02:55:02,100 --> 02:55:05,370
Which reminds me of a George
Morrow story who's George

2876
02:55:05,370 --> 02:55:09,960
Morrow. George Morrow was a
pretty famous industry pioneer

2877
02:55:09,960 --> 02:55:13,950
who was an engineer in the
valley that didn't borrow

2878
02:55:13,950 --> 02:55:18,930
designs. And he was during the
AD AD era, Z ad era, he was big

2879
02:55:18,930 --> 02:55:22,080
shot. And, and a nice guy and
very funny. He was also

2880
02:55:22,080 --> 02:55:25,920
outspoken, and he was so
character. And he used to

2881
02:55:25,920 --> 02:55:30,540
produce all kinds of different
boards and computer systems. And

2882
02:55:30,540 --> 02:55:34,590
he would always discuss the
these boards, there's another

2883
02:55:34,590 --> 02:55:38,460
was like an I O board or a disk
controller. I think they did one

2884
02:55:38,460 --> 02:55:41,610
for their, for the big eight
inch drives. There was a disk

2885
02:55:41,610 --> 02:55:45,990
controller they made. He always
talked about this idea of, of

2886
02:55:46,320 --> 02:55:51,000
upgrading anything that has been
on the market too long. And he

2887
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:54,450
believing and he wouldn't do it.
I mean, he because he said you

2888
02:55:54,450 --> 02:55:57,390
can patch a lot of these boards,
usually simple fixes. But

2889
02:55:57,630 --> 02:56:00,180
there's some companies that we
would do this constantly, they

2890
02:56:00,180 --> 02:56:04,140
try to perfect the board. He
says the problem was always with

2891
02:56:04,140 --> 02:56:08,370
the users of these products, who
would invariably within a very

2892
02:56:08,370 --> 02:56:12,240
short timeframe and with the
with the kind of group thinking,

2893
02:56:12,780 --> 02:56:17,880
design and use workarounds. And
he says once the workarounds

2894
02:56:17,880 --> 02:56:21,060
were like, all over the place,
you really had to leave the

2895
02:56:21,060 --> 02:56:25,980
board alone. Because you want
you to change anything, the

2896
02:56:25,980 --> 02:56:28,830
workarounds would all stop
working and sometimes be very

2897
02:56:28,830 --> 02:56:29,490
destructive.

2898
02:56:29,520 --> 02:56:33,420
And then trying to reverse
engineering is the thing that

2899
02:56:33,450 --> 02:56:40,320
drives me crazy. If you don't
know what changed, you know the

2900
02:56:40,320 --> 02:56:43,740
work arounds or stuff you you
put it in place you forget about

2901
02:56:43,740 --> 02:56:43,920
it?

2902
02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:49,530
Yes. And he was a big believer
in minimizing, interfering with

2903
02:56:49,530 --> 02:56:51,990
the workarounds because the
workarounds always worked. And

2904
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:54,330
they were passed around people
knew what they were and his Oh,

2905
02:56:54,330 --> 02:56:56,790
yeah, well, that has a bug and
you have to do this. And once

2906
02:56:56,790 --> 02:56:59,400
these things are in place, the
thing works like a champ. Yeah.

2907
02:57:00,090 --> 02:57:02,970
But a lot of companies would
just change it you know them

2908
02:57:02,970 --> 02:57:04,200
next to nothing worked.

2909
02:57:04,500 --> 02:57:11,550
Well, I'll tell you once the
podcast studio is done, and God

2910
02:57:11,550 --> 02:57:14,940
willing, hoping maybe February
now for the Kickstarter. And

2911
02:57:14,940 --> 02:57:17,490
that'll you know, we're also
going to bundle the official

2912
02:57:17,490 --> 02:57:21,330
John C. Dvorak microphone. It'll
be beautiful because then every

2913
02:57:21,360 --> 02:57:23,880
all of that is taken off of the
computer. The only thing you use

2914
02:57:23,880 --> 02:57:27,390
the computer for is just to play
stuff if you want if you want to

2915
02:57:27,390 --> 02:57:31,890
play, you know, all all
functions are hard coded in one

2916
02:57:31,890 --> 02:57:35,940
box. Beautiful. Because this is
driving me nuts. And I'm going

2917
02:57:35,940 --> 02:57:39,330
to switch to Linux because Apple
has lost its way. I really

2918
02:57:39,330 --> 02:57:43,800
wanted the new PowerBook or the
MacBook Pro. I'm sorry. Yeah, in

2919
02:57:43,800 --> 02:57:48,150
no way. I hear only bad things
about it. Only bad things.

2920
02:57:50,310 --> 02:57:51,660
Yeah, I haven't heard anything
good either.

2921
02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:55,590
It's just sad. They don't care
about their customers. They

2922
02:57:55,590 --> 02:57:57,660
really don't care about the
customers anymore. I think the

2923
02:57:57,660 --> 02:58:02,400
way they see it. Yeah, exactly.
All right. Anything else for the

2924
02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:03,030
tech news?

2925
02:58:04,620 --> 02:58:07,410
No, I think we got we're good
with tech guy. All right. Let's

2926
02:58:07,410 --> 02:58:07,800
close it

2927
02:58:09,209 --> 02:58:16,379
on my phone Okay,

2928
02:58:16,530 --> 02:58:19,890
okay, well, it's less than 10
minutes I have one clip and then

2929
02:58:19,890 --> 02:58:23,490
we can you can get now we're
gonna finish one clip. I want to

2930
02:58:23,490 --> 02:58:26,190
play this one and this is to
keep everybody up to date with

2931
02:58:26,190 --> 02:58:30,420
an average or the never the ever
changing story about the Fort

2932
02:58:30,420 --> 02:58:33,540
Lauderdale shooter now
apparently he didn't have people

2933
02:58:33,540 --> 02:58:37,830
talking to him but he is looking
at ISIS stuff. So I don't know.

2934
02:58:39,120 --> 02:58:41,850
You're in a Florida courtroom
today. The suspect of the deadly

2935
02:58:41,850 --> 02:58:45,060
shooting rampage of the Fort
Lauderdale Airport was ordered

2936
02:58:45,060 --> 02:58:48,240
to remain behind bars until
trial. During the hearing,

2937
02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:51,570
prosecutors said Esteban
Santiago gave conflicting

2938
02:58:51,570 --> 02:58:55,560
explanations explanations as to
his motive. The FBI says

2939
02:58:55,560 --> 02:58:58,530
Santiago first claimed the
government was controlling his

2940
02:58:58,530 --> 02:59:02,580
mind but later said he was
inspired by ISIS link chat rooms

2941
02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:03,600
and websites

2942
02:59:03,930 --> 02:59:06,450
and didn't and they arrested his
his wife

2943
02:59:07,170 --> 02:59:11,580
no no that that's the wife they
arrested is the guy who is the

2944
02:59:11,640 --> 02:59:13,590
Orlando nightclub shooter

2945
02:59:14,790 --> 02:59:16,980
oh I'm sorry this Fort
Lauderdale. Yes, crap. I'm

2946
02:59:16,980 --> 02:59:21,270
sorry. It that whole thing is
very odd.

2947
02:59:22,950 --> 02:59:26,220
Yes. This is all the
government's trying to make me

2948
02:59:26,220 --> 02:59:29,400
watch ISIS videos. And now the
story is I've been watching ISIS

2949
02:59:29,400 --> 02:59:32,820
videos. The government hasn't
said anything about this. Which

2950
02:59:32,820 --> 02:59:35,880
makes me think you know, just
the opposite. Okay,

2951
02:59:35,940 --> 02:59:38,760
I'm going to spend a little bit
of the time in the next few days

2952
02:59:38,760 --> 02:59:42,210
looking through the CIA document
dump 12 million declassified

2953
02:59:42,210 --> 02:59:42,690
documents.

2954
02:59:43,050 --> 02:59:48,360
Please do if I knew about this,
I saw it. I said, like, here's I

2955
02:59:48,360 --> 02:59:52,710
guess you're gonna be a search
engine we can use leaks front

2956
02:59:52,710 --> 02:59:54,360
end or something that might
work.

2957
02:59:54,360 --> 02:59:57,780
Here's the two stories I pulled
out. CIA admits it carried out

2958
02:59:57,780 --> 03:00:01,260
secret psychic experiments on
Oregon. eller, for those of you

2959
03:00:01,260 --> 03:00:04,290
to remember that with jewelry
Gala was a guy who could bend

2960
03:00:04,290 --> 03:00:10,620
spoons with his mind as a bake.
Yeah. And it was also operation

2961
03:00:10,650 --> 03:00:16,950
artichoke, which was another
mind control project. Not unlike

2962
03:00:16,950 --> 03:00:20,190
MK Ultra. I have not heard of
artichoke.

2963
03:00:21,240 --> 03:00:25,710
I have. You have? Yeah. Yeah. I
don't know the details, but I

2964
03:00:25,710 --> 03:00:26,580
have heard of it for sure.

2965
03:00:26,610 --> 03:00:30,180
Right. So I'll be I'll look at
that. And I'll see if I can come

2966
03:00:30,180 --> 03:00:35,610
up with come up with anything
good. And let me see. Yeah. So

2967
03:00:35,970 --> 03:00:40,080
for Sunday, I'll definitely have
a number of I think very

2968
03:00:40,080 --> 03:00:43,050
entertaining clips from the
confirmation hearings, which

2969
03:00:43,050 --> 03:00:47,880
just shows you that just the two
universes as this it's right

2970
03:00:47,880 --> 03:00:52,920
there and it's right in our
right in our high government.

2971
03:00:55,500 --> 03:00:56,310
Okay,

2972
03:00:56,339 --> 03:00:59,669
when you have the Samantha Power
interview that was done, and

2973
03:00:59,669 --> 03:01:03,599
she's leaving, yeah. And again,
Institute University, I believe

2974
03:01:03,629 --> 03:01:07,499
with some crazy stuff in there.
That is a four parter that I

2975
03:01:07,499 --> 03:01:09,839
think everyone will be
entertained by, because very

2976
03:01:09,839 --> 03:01:15,059
deconstructed. I like to me, I
like it. I like it away. Okay.

2977
03:01:18,510 --> 03:01:20,130
When is the next game I should
be looking at?

2978
03:01:21,360 --> 03:01:23,640
Well, there's these games that
you talked about are being

2979
03:01:23,640 --> 03:01:28,590
played this weekend. So this
weekend you want to there's two

2980
03:01:28,590 --> 03:01:31,500
games, obviously the ones you
mentioned. Yeah. To see if

2981
03:01:31,500 --> 03:01:33,810
you're if you're if these
numbers come out correctly.

2982
03:01:33,930 --> 03:01:38,640
Okay. We'll see. I think a great
Superbowl I think everybody

2983
03:01:38,640 --> 03:01:41,700
would love to see the Steelers
play the Packers. That's why

2984
03:01:41,700 --> 03:01:45,540
they're going to do it. Coming
to you from the crackpot condo

2985
03:01:45,540 --> 03:01:49,890
here in downtown Austin. Take us
in the skyscraper, FEMA Region

2986
03:01:49,890 --> 03:01:52,860
six on the maps in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

2987
03:01:53,250 --> 03:01:55,590
Leanne from Northern Silicon
Valley where this will be a

2988
03:01:55,590 --> 03:01:59,100
respite respite from the
rainstorms it's actually sunny

2989
03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:01,470
out right now. I expect the
storms to return tomorrow and

2990
03:02:01,470 --> 03:02:06,240
the drought is long since over
as I'm John C. Dvorak

2991
03:02:06,540 --> 03:02:09,480
we'll be back on Sunday right
here I know agenda remember us

2992
03:02:09,480 --> 03:02:19,350
at the vortex.org/in A audio
smooth follows when

2993
03:02:19,350 --> 03:02:23,220
Adam needs to make a game
example of some typical slaves,

2994
03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:28,620
he just read the comments on
their face back cage gonna read

2995
03:02:28,620 --> 03:02:36,240
face bag gone on lose some brain
cells gonna read face man. gonna

2996
03:02:36,240 --> 03:02:42,930
read comments from shills when
Adam needs to make an example of

2997
03:02:42,930 --> 03:02:48,480
some typical slaves he just
reads the comments on their face

2998
03:02:48,480 --> 03:02:54,540
back page gonna read face back
gone on do some brain cells

2999
03:02:54,540 --> 03:03:00,000
gonna read face man read
comments from Shil

3000
03:03:08,040 --> 03:03:19,050
lesson OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

3001
03:03:19,050 --> 03:03:24,810
NO NO NO NO NO I'm up in the
booth Oh no, no, no, no

3002
03:03:26,879 --> 03:03:27,749
thanks, Obama.

3003
03:03:28,200 --> 03:03:33,030
I want to talk for the society
let's put that aside. Society

3004
03:03:33,030 --> 03:03:34,410
Okay, let's put that aside

3005
03:03:35,549 --> 03:03:40,199
about you did not think it was a
good idea. You said when you mix

3006
03:03:40,199 --> 03:03:44,279
you know that when you mix
arrows when you mix affection

3007
03:03:44,279 --> 03:03:47,219
for one another that could be
manifested sexually I don't care

3008
03:03:47,249 --> 03:03:48,149
if you go

3009
03:03:50,430 --> 03:03:55,800
Yeah, it has to be it has to be
43 and unsafe she

3010
03:03:55,799 --> 03:03:57,659
did a report about about

3011
03:03:59,459 --> 03:04:02,669
will tree you will not find this
is where it never has it worked.

3012
03:04:03,089 --> 03:04:05,909
He said the ID one another that
could be manifested sexually I

3013
03:04:05,909 --> 03:04:06,569
don't care

3014
03:04:06,599 --> 03:04:14,189
about about about about that
goes we will shower. This is an

3015
03:04:14,189 --> 03:04:15,959
alternative universe manifested

3016
03:04:15,960 --> 03:04:18,630
sexually I don't care one
another that could be manifested

3017
03:04:18,630 --> 03:04:20,790
sexually. I don't care if you go

3018
03:04:20,879 --> 03:04:26,099
or that goes when you shower.
This is an alternative universe.

3019
03:04:27,750 --> 03:04:31,140
I don't care if you go anywhere
in history, you will not find

3020
03:04:31,140 --> 03:04:34,710
where could be manifested
sexually. I don't care if you go

3021
03:04:35,190 --> 03:04:42,030
to an alternative universe a
universe

3022
03:04:44,399 --> 03:04:45,989
for you? Of course.

3023
03:04:46,350 --> 03:04:49,890
Could we find a few who could do
the pull ups of course because

3024
03:04:49,890 --> 03:04:55,530
that's how we find a few
choices. Could we find a

3025
03:04:55,530 --> 03:05:01,800
society? Who could towards me?
It just comes out We'll find a

3026
03:05:01,800 --> 03:05:03,210
few who could do worse

3027
03:05:03,209 --> 03:05:08,399
of course we could we this is an
ultra shower. And from let's put

3028
03:05:08,399 --> 03:05:09,299
this aside, okay,

3029
03:05:09,330 --> 03:05:12,810
who could Torsby? Could could we
find a few who could do the pull

3030
03:05:12,810 --> 03:05:14,700
ups? Of course because that's
not the point.

3031
03:05:14,910 --> 03:05:18,780
Twitter. Let's put that aside.
troll people on Twitter. Let's

3032
03:05:18,780 --> 03:05:21,270
put that aside. troll people on
Twitter

3033
03:05:21,299 --> 03:05:22,199
find a few,

3034
03:05:23,340 --> 03:05:29,400
four, four times four or four

3035
03:05:30,090 --> 03:05:35,190
this this this is fake news we
won't be trapped in the morning

3036
03:05:36,959 --> 03:05:40,319
I want to talk for a second
about about about about, about

3037
03:05:40,439 --> 03:05:44,759
about about about this is an
alternative universe I want to

3038
03:05:44,759 --> 03:05:49,709
talk for a second about about
about about about about this is

3039
03:05:49,799 --> 03:05:54,929
an alternative universe and and
he got his two documents victory

3040
03:05:54,989 --> 03:05:59,519
for cheating This is an
alternative universe I'm gonna

3041
03:05:59,549 --> 03:06:04,739
talk for a second about about
about about about this is an

3042
03:06:04,739 --> 03:06:10,019
alternative universe and he got
his you got your victory from

3043
03:06:10,019 --> 03:06:14,729
cheater This is an alternative
universe. I want to talk for a

3044
03:06:14,729 --> 03:06:22,799
second about about this is an
alternative universe and he got

3045
03:06:22,799 --> 03:06:25,319
his he got his victory from
cheating.

3046
03:06:26,160 --> 03:06:28,740
Always a pleasure. You can take
that to the bank

3047
03:06:33,090 --> 03:06:34,560
adios MoPhO

3048
03:06:38,940 --> 03:06:44,430
boruch.org/n A Hello