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You're a boasting. Yeah, you're
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curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, October 22 2018.
Time once again via gizmo nation

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media assassination episode 767.
This is no

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agenda taking

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full responsibility for the rain
stick Sorry, not sorry. And

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broadcasting live from the
capital of the drone Star State

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and people region six Austin
Tejas in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry, and from

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Northern Silicon Valley, where I
can say you heard what he said,

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I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.

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As in you didn't understand what
I said.

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No, it's as in as in I'm take
full responsibility for the

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rains. I do.

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I do and I and we were shaking
it and finally last night rain

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came shaken and bacon, and the
difference is remarkable. It

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sounds like you're sick as a
dog. I'm so sick, man. I've been

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in bed almost since Sunday,
pretty much all the time. Or why

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do you? Why do you laugh about
my

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make such a difference? Well,
the difference is remarkable.

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Yeah,

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I sound like crap. Now
everybody, congratulations. Oh,

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man has been so bad. That Lisa

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explained is what happened to

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rain came when the rain came the
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hard to Yeah, well, we shook it
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lot. So sorry, not sorry. I
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and the rain wiped out the
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last night. So I say it wasn't
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oh, no, no, I'm I am coughing
it's I'm completely blocked

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congested. Thank you all so much
for your 1000s of helpful tips.

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A lot of interesting things
people recommend Yes, like what

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oh, you know, eat local honey.
I've heard that one before.

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Yeah, well, that's

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true. But that's for allergies.
And for the problem with the

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honey theory and i By the way,
that honey thing people swear by

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it my wife does she's she's
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local acacia honey doesn't want
German acacia honey she her

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allergies go almost down to
nothing doesn't work for me. The

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problem is is not going to work
with you. Because there's no

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such thing as mould. Honey, I
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mould Honey, honey?

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You know people recommending all
kinds of shots. Yeah, no, I'm

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not gonna go get an injection
now shots in order. It helped a

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lot actually was Aleve strangely
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Believe. Yeah,

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it did help out, man. It's been
so bad, John.

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Well, you're okay now? Well,
better because the rains came if

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the

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rain Yeah, I'll get better now.
Holy crap. I saw my next door

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neighbour in the hallway. I
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Man? I feel horrible. It says,
Yeah, I'm all jacked up on an

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allergy meds. I don't really
know what I'm doing. People just

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floating around stoned on
allergy meds. Screw that, man.

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Screw it. I hate it.

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Yeah, it's a short lived
phenomenon. And it's actually

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quite amusing. I think it's
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except it's been going on for
three weeks now. This is the

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third week. We've

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had some rain by now. Yeah.
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goodness. And we're here. And
while we're doing the show, of

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course. The big Ghazi hearings
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well, it'll be available to us
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It's going to be it's going to
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Yeah, I do actually have a
little background on it. Do we

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play just to catch up so we can
talk about the next show? This

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is the Benghazi rundown,

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rundown or preview preview.
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it's not a premeditated response
to what had transpired in Cairo.

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But Republicans charged to the
White House knew almost

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immediately Benghazi was a
terror attack and concealed it

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to protect President Obama's
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administration insisted
Ambassador Rice was speaking

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from the best information
available at the time. Four

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months later, then Secretary of
State Hillary Clinton took on

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Senate Republicans at a hearing.
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we had four dead Americans. Was
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it because of guys out for a
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go kill some Americans?

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What difference at this point
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figure out what happened and do
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from ever happening again,

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the incident launch parallel
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State Department and Congress to
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independent Accountability
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Secretary Clinton and headed by
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Pickering. That December it
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happened that night. And it
called the consulate security

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posture inadequate for Benghazi
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Are we going to hear from any of
those the other witnesses Do you

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remember they they shuttled? I
don't know it was it the guys

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who was when he fired? Yeah, 25
or 30 people, they shut him off

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to Germany lickety split. And
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told him to shut up. And we have
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people have we I wonder myself,
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giant scam

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was deficient in security
supplies, it was probably

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deficient in the security
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ongoing security problems in
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have alerted the department to
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the questions presented to the
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negative when they probably
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responded to. And are

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you saying there were requests
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and they were denied

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was an ongoing request for
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of them were not, were not
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positively Yes,

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I love that the the language
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not responded to positively.

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He's a bureaucrat. Exactly.

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The Pickering review cited
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leadership and management
deficiencies have the State

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Department, a consulate that was
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regard to certain needed
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term staff rotation that
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institutional knowledge,
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Pickering said the review board
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military could have scrambled
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And it was very clear to us that
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called upon right away but the
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and move those Marines in Spain
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there in time.

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Three State Department officials
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report. The report did not fault
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knew it takes so long to get
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He's full on hearings. There's
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does you know and so much that
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Where Why doesn't anyone ever
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ambassador being sodomised with
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the streets?

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That will come up in the
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factually correct. We'll all
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this will just be one big waste
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hours watching nothing but lies.

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Well, they'll be making some
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Oh, come up and ask some
poignant question and one of the

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Democrats of apologists, you
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Hillary gets into office Trey
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these guys. Trey Gowdy was raked
over the coals. Oh, yeah. No,

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they're targeting him. Yeah.
Here's James Carville. He's one

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easy.

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He's a he's an operative? Yes.

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We call that a Democrat
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operative. And he knows exactly
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stuff. Trey

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Gowdy is a creation of the Koch
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denial industry in this
committee, who's nothing for the

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creation of Rupert Murdoch and
the Koch brothers. Fox ran over

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1000 segments in 20 months after
this thing. This is a taxpayer

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funded understand taxpayer
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they run in there. All they
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phone numbers down. They've
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fact. And it's Oh, he is a he
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Koch brothers putting that Yeah,
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about the connection between law
I'm fine with that. Check. It

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all was a result of pressure
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brothers. Brothers with Trey
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stuff is in the public record.
There's no doubt about it. You

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can fact check me we

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will follow up games and
Congressman Gowdy is welcome to

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come on and

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ask him ask him about how much
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anyway on the best podcast and
the

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facts, nothing but facts. He
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Hillary's campaigns donations
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Saudis.

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Then I can invite him back if
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Huh. Well, the biggest news is a
lot. There's a lot but I think

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Pierre Pierre, Pierre, Justin
Trudeau, from connect

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Scandinavia. Yeah, we have to
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large Canadian audience and they
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we think this is an interesting
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Well, a male kind of a male. A
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He also likes to take his shirt
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ring with some other political
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But he's just another part of a
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worldwide problem. Yeah, a
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why would you? Was he really the
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Well, that's not the way
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that the best?

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Oh, yeah, that's the way it
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it works great here.

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The way the Canadian system
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with it, I am not listening, is
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come and go, some of them
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of the blue. And they have an
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different people that are going
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party that gets the most votes,
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they get all enough votes, and
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they don't have to be have a
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very similar to England. And
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way to the leader of that party,
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position of leadership of that
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coincidentally gets to be Prime
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of how a parliamentary system
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happened with this guy because
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lead because he's a good, he's,
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And there's a lot of the whole
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play a couple of run downs for
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or even Americans for that
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what happened is I have to run
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which is probably superior to
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run down on Democracy Now. I
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during the process of transition
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A recent headline in The
Guardian, dubbed Harper quote,

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the last remnant of George W.
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Stephen Harper Canada became the
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the Kyoto Protocol, the
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reduction targets on carbon
emissions Harper slash the

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funding of environmental Canada,
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federal scientists were speaking
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That rundown is is too much
running down Harper. Let's play

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the Trudeau run down to NBC,
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The US presidential campaign, of
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months and still has more than a
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chosen a new leader in a
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weeks, and that's long for them.
But winter in an upset is 43

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year old Justin Trudeau a
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but one with a legendary name
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and VCs gave good to eras has
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I have a simple message for you.
On behalf of 35 million

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Canadians. We're back.

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Just Justin Trudeau is Canada's
future and its past. The son of

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Pierre and Margaret Trudeau, the
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minister and his former flower
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power couple in the 70s and 80s.
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last night, claimed it for
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winning us stunning upset.

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It's time for a change in this
country, my friends are real.

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Trudeau is 43 married to a
former television host and

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model. He got into politics just
eight years ago after trying his

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hand as a snowboard instructor,
a nightclub bouncer and a high

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school teacher. His critics
called his resume thin being

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Prime Minister is not an entry
level job. But Trudeau insisted

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he was ready and the voters
agreed, sending conservative

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incumbent Stephen Harper
packing. The people are never

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wrong. Trudeau promises to cut
taxes, spend billions to boost

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the economy, act against climate
change, legalised marijuana and

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lead the US led air campaign
against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

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Why should Americans care about
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You now have a Canadian
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more in line with the American
government. Does that mean

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better relations relations have
always been good, but they've

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actually not been so great. Of
late? Will they now get better?

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That's why American should care.

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Perhaps a little Northern Star
gave us here is NBC.

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You know, there's a lot of
speculation about Justin Trudeau

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on the alternative sites about a
surprise Yeah, but the headlines

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such as is Justin Trudeau, a
product of mind control. Of

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course, he was educated at the
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which is creepy. A bunch of
creeps there. Yeah.

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Well, he has they tried to go
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because he was starting to win
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ahead at the beginning, New
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most liberal and I would just
bring this up, because if you go

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to go to ndp.org, or no, no nd
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this guy.

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Hey, go what are you looking
for? Tom? Mulcair

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Yeah, Tom that dude slash Tom.
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not fun. No, it's

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Tom has a T. Tom is No, Tom. Oh,
Tom story, okay. Okay. And I go

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down a few photos and he has a
very I think this guy. I watched

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him give a speech. And I think
there's a there's a lot of

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gayness at the top of Canadian
politics. And this guy in

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particular,

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they're descendants of Britain.
Hello. Very guy. This

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guy in particular is here's his
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that

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that is required that is
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But he has this you have to
imagine this guy speaking he's

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got that full beard. If you look
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he's got that precious look on
his face. Yeah. He, he he purses

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his lips, he tilts his head.
Yeah, he has all the earmarks of

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a guy who's mind controlled. Be
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One of the play a candidate,
says Tabata Tom Mulcair. This is

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his little speech,

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unwavering in our pursuit of
better health care for

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Canadians, we will stand strong
in our fight against climate

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change, to protect our land, air
and water. And we will be

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resolute in our efforts to build
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relationship with First Nations,
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So when actually when did you
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crank it up.

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It's on these priorities and on
many more, that New Democrats

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will make real and lasting
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With this election, Canadians
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them. We will not let them down.

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Have you received any feedback
from our candidate avian

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producers out there? What were
their feeling is on the guy

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on who? Judo. Yeah, everybody.
They don't like anybody that

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Canadians are just you know,
they don't like people. But

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especially foreigners Harper is
such an extreme. Anybody. Yeah,

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is fine. Because Harper was just
finally they got everyone got

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fed up with the guy because he's
a douche.

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Did I understand the Trudeau
said he was going to cut

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Canada's participation in the
Joint Strike Fighter. Oh,

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no, he's out. Yeah. He's pulling
out of the ISIS

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bail. That's, that's not very
friendly. Well, he

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just doesn't think that things
work. I think he probably I have

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no idea what he's thinking but
he doesn't mean that's

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what I mean. It's it's the right
thing to do. Because it's,

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yeah, well, he's out the
Canadians who haven't been in

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the kind of in bed with us in
wars necessarily right,

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including the first Iraq war I
believe. Anyway, let's go back

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to how this guy guy got in this
guy is a he's a pretty boy. The

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Canadians want to imply that
he's gay, but this is the

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Liberals want to net the
Liberals but the conservatives

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want to imply that he's gay
because they made a big point of

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him being a drama teacher. And
this was brought up in some of

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the ads always a drama teacher
and if you listen to him talk

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play this. Play the Trudeau
lisping, thank you speech my

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friends.

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We beat fear with hope we beat
cynicism hard work.

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Do you really want to do this
because now I'm gonna be talking

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like this the whole film

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negative divisive politics with
a positive vision that brings

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Canadians together most of we
defeated the idea that Canadians

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should be satisfied with less
that good enough is good enough

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and that better just as
impossible. Wow. My friends this

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is Canada and in Canada we live
better is always

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so so really they do you think
that every targeted campaign

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targeted?

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Yeah, they were trying to do
that implication but the problem

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is he's married to this
beautiful woman who he freely

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kisses constantly Yeah, and
she's quite attractive and he's

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got three kids and he's got all
these you know, things that but

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he's still got this this
horrible Sylvester the cat sound

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that is completely out of
control. And it's actually quite

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funny. Now they better you know,
one of the things that Harper

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managed to do up in Canada was
get rid of this hour has 22

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minutes to this for this famous
show that and marginalise it so

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it's not important anymore. They
got a break. Net show back just

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to have somebody do this guy's
voice because it's very funny.

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Yeah, the Punahou a satire. Now
he, whether he's gay or not, I

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don't know. Or by three kids do

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Canadians care?

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The Fairly the conservatives do,
yes. And the religious do. So a

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lot of Canadians do care, but
they don't care so much that

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they rather have him in there
than Harper. Right. And he's

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not, you know, flaunting except
for the fact he can say

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politics, politics. I don't
know. It's hard to say. I mean,

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he's he's definitely a rank
amateur. But there was a couple

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of good kind of discussions
about him on Democracy Now.

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Okay. And I think the one to
play which I have here is one on

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first name, or actually this
play this one. He was all in on

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this law up in Canada, which we
don't talk about down here. But

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the C 51 Is

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the Patriot Act. Yeah, it's
crazy. Yeah, play it. Okay.

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During a debate in August,
Justin Trudeau expressed support

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for the controversial anti
Terrorism Act of 2015, known as

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the C 51. Surveillance law, it's
called Canada's Patriot Act.

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The Government of Canada and the
prime minister is expected to do

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to do two things by Canadians.
The first one is to keep us

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safe. The second is to uphold
and defend our rights and

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freedoms. Now, Mr. Harper
doesn't think we need to do

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anything more to protect our
rights and freedoms. And Mr.

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Mulcair, with his position on
counterterrorism laws, doesn't

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think we need to do anything
more on security. The liberal

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party has been very clear, we
need to do both of them

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together.

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That's Justin Trudeau. In a
debate in August, Pamela

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Perlmutter talk about the C 51
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So that was one of the biggest
criticisms of the liberal party

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when when Justin Trudeau was
running was his support for Bill

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C 51. And some of the people
that were running for the

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Liberal Party were viciously
defensive of Bill C 51. Whereas

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other liberal candidates were
saying, Look, we're once we get

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in, we're going to make
amendments to make sure

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democratic rights and freedoms
are protected to make sure that

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first nations aren't
particularly targeted. So it's

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going to depend where he goes
from here with this legislation.

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So if he just supports the
legislation as is, which is a

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clear violation of our
Constitution, the Charter of

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Rights and Freedoms that his
father brought in all First

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Nation, aboriginal and treaty
rights and international human

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rights. I mean, it's really the
most defensive legislation

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Canada has ever enacted in this
country. And if he does

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something about it, then I think
he could really build some

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goodwill that he's committed to
protecting democratic rights and

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freedoms as well as First Nation
rights.

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If I could just add to that he
voted for it in Parliament, it

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is a law now it's not. So it
wasn't something just discussed

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in the election. The Liberals
supported it in Parliament, they

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tried to amend it, but of
course, the Conservatives had a

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majority. And this is very
concerning, because there's

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nothing in Bill C 51, that's
needed to protect candidate

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security. The only reason they
voted for it was because at the

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time, it was very popular. And
then groups like open democracy.

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campaigned against it. Lots of
groups campaigned against it,

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and public opinion shifted. So
by the beginning of the election

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campaign, it was no longer
popular, but the liberals had

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already voted for it. So this is
what I mean about what you know,

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what the concern is about the
Liberals is they're willing to

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do anything, not anything,
they're willing to move and

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shift to do what's popular, but
when push push comes to shove,

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they're still a corporate party,
their party that's mostly

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supported by corporations
financially or have been in the

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past. And, you know, they have a
bad history. Now. Maybe Trudeau

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can change that. And I'm with
Pam, I'd like to be hopeful.

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It's kind of hard. When you know
that history and C 51 is a good

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example of it. Right?

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It's exactly what you want to
do. You want to bring a cool guy

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in who promise all kinds of
things that he'll fix and

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change, but he won't know he
won't know he's not going to do

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that. Because you have to go
kiss the Queen's ring soon. I

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mean, if you're just you have to
go and get his approval or Oh,

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you mean the England? Yes. I
presume I presume that

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there's some there's some
there's some process. Yeah,

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well, yeah,

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I think he has to go and and say
howdy.

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Yeah. How did how would he
queen? There was a woman there

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on Democracy Now. That was the
representative of indigenous

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people of Canada. And now we
have to know that the Canadians

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relationship with their with
their Indians, their tribes was

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a lot different than ours. For
one thing the Indians in Canada

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or natives or native peoples are
first persons. What do you want

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to first person? First, first,
first, first,

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first things first people of
course peeps. Oh gee, peeps, who

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were

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really a tough group. I mean,
there were there were I mean,

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it's not as though the Apaches
were slouches with these guys

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are, and they were funded by the
by the British. And they tend to

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be tough to this day. And
there's always been there's been

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a war between the country of
Canada and their Indians, their

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indigenous people,

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constantly. They the Canadians
didn't do it, right. They didn't

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kill them like we did.

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You didn't, you gotta like get
rid of the problem earlier, I'll

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be honest with the Canadians,
because they're right. We'll get

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a number of letters from our
Canadian producers who will give

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us give us better information.
Yeah, but let's play this little

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break down. This was a woman who
representative represented a lot

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of the indigenous and she was
discussing this this is Trudeau

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First Nations, right First
Nations the

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Opie's?

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Well, I think you know, for most
First Nations, there's a

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collective sigh of relief that
Harper's gone. I mean, like you

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said, he's been the worst
environmental disaster

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democratic, right disaster, and
he was the, you know, epic enemy

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of First Nations. And so what
you have with Prime Minister

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Trudeau is the possibility for
change, he really has an

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opportunity to be a leader in
First Nation issues,

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environmental issues and
democratic rights and freedoms,

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versus a politician. So he has
the opportunity, we have to give

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him a little time to see if he's
going to do it. However, he does

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come from a very problematic
liberal legacy. His father was

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the one who introduced the 1969
white paper, which would have

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essentially racist clearly
annihilated Indians and reserves

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and treaty rights. And all of
that, which was, you know,

455
00:26:47,999 --> 00:26:52,109
brought about massive national
protests by First Nation

456
00:26:52,109 --> 00:26:57,239
leaders. And I mean, but to his
credit, he's distancing himself

457
00:26:57,239 --> 00:27:01,109
from from his father's policy,
and he's saying he wants to do

458
00:27:01,109 --> 00:27:04,679
it differently. A nation to
nation relationship, which is

459
00:27:04,679 --> 00:27:07,439
key for First Nations because
First Nations consider

460
00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:10,049
themselves to be sovereign with
their own laws and

461
00:27:10,049 --> 00:27:12,239
jurisdictions. So,

462
00:27:12,810 --> 00:27:16,440
you know, his dad, Pierre, dated
Barbra Streisand.

463
00:27:18,090 --> 00:27:24,000
Yeah, he was a real Bolivar and
Margot Kidder. Imagine growing

464
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,670
up his wife is better looking
than the other two of them

465
00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:27,270
imagine

466
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:30,750
growing up in Barbra Streisand's
wild walking around in the

467
00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:31,230
house.

468
00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:37,920
I think that was before he was
born. I could be wrong. Maybe

469
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,760
not. Ballmer would, but you'd
have to imagine he was at the

470
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:46,590
Trudeau had this anti in the
native people, that First Nation

471
00:27:46,590 --> 00:27:51,870
policy that was very popular.
Well, was popular until then

472
00:27:51,870 --> 00:27:56,130
there was an uprising. And I
remember this vaguely when I was

473
00:27:56,130 --> 00:28:00,720
a kid that these these Indians
were burning up to play. They

474
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,170
were creating havoc in Canada.
They had all the Canadians had

475
00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:06,870
to back off. Do you think that
we'll see a repeat you think

476
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:10,440
that? Well, here's the thing. He
was brought up at a dinner table

477
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,190
where there was a probably a lot
of grousing going on? Yeah. And

478
00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:17,460
I would think that he said,
Well, I stopped me. I think that

479
00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:21,390
it might be in bull it's
possible that he, you know, got

480
00:28:21,390 --> 00:28:24,570
around this and he wants to make
make a man's I don't know, all I

481
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:27,540
know is that this is easy.
They're going to do absolutely

482
00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:30,810
nothing, which is what I would
guess because that's what they

483
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,270
always do. They talk a big game,
and then nothing happens, you

484
00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:37,080
know, take that to the bank,
which is probably the smartest

485
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,290
thing to do. Because you can't
really you can just keep putting

486
00:28:40,290 --> 00:28:44,580
it off, putting it off. Putting
it off, put it off, get most

487
00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:49,380
nightclothes out, take it to the
band. But this debate, this

488
00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:53,580
discussion is interesting to me,
because it's going to change a

489
00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:57,960
little bit at least change
Canada a little bit. Okay. Is

490
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,580
that the end of that? Yeah,
that's all

491
00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:03,450
I got. Well, do you have more on
Trudeau or can we move over?

492
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:05,700
All right, we're just getting
ready. One more thing on

493
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:07,680
Trudeau. That was what I

494
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,480
want to hook into the sea 51

495
00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:16,350
I think we can be I think
Trudeau is is going to be

496
00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:19,290
entertaining for us. It did give
us a little bit more than Harper

497
00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:22,770
was very. Canadians always
bitching at us. Oh, you guys

498
00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:24,600
never covered Canada. And

499
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:28,650
there you go. We covered Canada.
It was it was borderline boring.

500
00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:29,760
But we covered Canada.

501
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:34,200
Yeah, well, it's actually not as
boring as you know. I'm

502
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,590
just kidding, John. I'm just
kidding. I hit it not boring at

503
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:43,290
all. What are you hoping to see
51 In the United Kingdom Gitmo

504
00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:47,670
nation east the beta test for
all things shut up slave. They

505
00:29:47,670 --> 00:29:50,820
finally released their extremism
strategy that or I should say

506
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:56,550
the counter extremism strategy,
white paper. And in that we have

507
00:29:56,730 --> 00:30:01,050
a full on definition of
extremism and We also have a

508
00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:05,190
clip here from Theresa May the
Home Secretary, who of course is

509
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:09,810
responsible for keeping the home
safe, the homeland safe. From

510
00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:13,740
the Document first chapter one,
the threat from extremism. Here

511
00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:17,340
we go. The, this is the
definition, John, you'll want to

512
00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:20,610
pay attention. Because we are
going to be in violation of

513
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:25,350
this, I'm sure many times in the
future. extremism is the vocal,

514
00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:30,060
or active opposition to our
fundamental values, including

515
00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:34,050
democracy, the rule of law,
individual liberty, and the

516
00:30:34,050 --> 00:30:37,920
mutual respect and tolerance of
different faiths and beliefs.

517
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:41,880
There's nothing in here about
free speech. For note, yeah,

518
00:30:41,910 --> 00:30:45,510
it's all about free speech and
how you don't have it. We also

519
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:48,690
regard calls for the death of
members of our Armed Forces as

520
00:30:48,690 --> 00:30:53,010
extremist life in our country is
based on fundamental values that

521
00:30:53,010 --> 00:30:55,560
have evolved over centuries
values that are supported and

522
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,770
shared by the overwhelming
majority of the population, and

523
00:30:58,770 --> 00:31:01,380
are underpinned by our most
important local and national

524
00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:04,050
institutions. These values
include the rule of law,

525
00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:07,560
democracy, individual liberty,
and the mutual respect tolerance

526
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,250
and understanding of different
faiths and beliefs. So this is

527
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,600
this tolerance mean, which is an
EU wide thing that's been going

528
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,930
on. But probably, you know,
we'll see that here too,

529
00:31:18,930 --> 00:31:23,490
tolerance, bullying all of this.
That really, they've, they're

530
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:29,700
taking away your ability to be
vocal about fundamental values

531
00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:34,830
of Great Britain. And Theresa
May is going to try and explain

532
00:31:34,830 --> 00:31:38,040
this on one of the morning
shows. She's going to give a

533
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,880
couple of examples

534
00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:42,840
in what is a very wide ranging
counter extremism strategy that

535
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,720
we're launching today. And we're
launching that because we do

536
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:49,590
face an unprecedented threat
from extremism. Groups like ISIL

537
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:53,550
can put their consent through
the internet, their message of

538
00:31:53,550 --> 00:31:56,910
their perverted message of
hatred into family homes, we see

539
00:31:56,910 --> 00:31:59,910
men and women and indeed whole
families going out to Syria, I

540
00:31:59,910 --> 00:32:03,660
think that shows us that we need
to step up our action to counter

541
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:06,930
extremism. What we're saying
today is that we need to do

542
00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:10,650
more, and we need to do more to
counter the message of extremism

543
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:13,710
and counter that message of
extremism across the board.

544
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:17,700
We've seen last week for
example, significant rises in

545
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,810
reported hate crimes. And so
what does hate crimes gotta love

546
00:32:21,810 --> 00:32:24,930
it actually talks about is
dealing with extremism of all

547
00:32:24,930 --> 00:32:29,100
sorts. So Islamist extremism,
but also Neo Nazis, those who

548
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:33,630
are promoting messages of hatred
and division. This is this is

549
00:32:33,630 --> 00:32:37,530
complicated, or as we would say,
a slippery slope. If you're

550
00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:39,930
communicating messages of
hatred, so you can't hate

551
00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:43,980
anybody anymore. In the UK, you
can't say, hey, those guys suck.

552
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,010
I don't know how that expense
explains a soccer hooliganism.

553
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,890
Well, that is the neo Nazi
Party, there'll be they gotta be

554
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,400
rolling people up all day and
night, every soccer game in our

555
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,900
country football game, it is

556
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,050
we need to deal with that too.
And today is a recognition that

557
00:33:01,050 --> 00:33:04,770
there is more that we need to
do, in order to counter these

558
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,680
messages of hatred, these
messages of division that the

559
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,550
extreme is are promoting. But we
also want to work with

560
00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:14,640
communities to promote
mainstream voices, and to build

561
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,870
more cohesive communities. So
it's very much looking and I've,

562
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:23,220
I've seen from the work that
I've done already the excellent

563
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:26,490
work that is being done. So in
terms of parents, what we're

564
00:33:26,490 --> 00:33:29,940
saying is that we would extend
the ability for parents who are

565
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:33,210
concerned about their
youngsters, perhaps going off to

566
00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:36,450
Syria, perhaps getting involved
in fighting, if they go to join

567
00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:40,050
Iceland. It's a terrible, brutal
regime. And so there's a

568
00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:43,410
safeguarding issue for parents
there. So their ability to

569
00:33:43,410 --> 00:33:46,530
actually say to the authorities,
please could you withdraw the

570
00:33:46,530 --> 00:33:49,050
passport but of course, at the
other end of the spectrum, if

571
00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:53,400
you like, the police also have a
new ability, a new power, which

572
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,060
came in earlier this year, to
remove passports temporarily

573
00:33:57,060 --> 00:34:00,780
from people when they're at
airport when they are about to

574
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:03,000
travel, and the police are
concerned about them.

575
00:34:03,419 --> 00:34:06,569
You can't you can't travel, you
can't go anywhere.

576
00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:10,500
You know, there's a couple of
things that strike me one is the

577
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,500
cohesiveness and then a
diversity and we'll see how that

578
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:18,000
works. But the other thing is
about the way they promote or or

579
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,390
try to dis promote the the ISIL
group as a brutal regime that

580
00:34:24,390 --> 00:34:26,580
you can go there and the next
thing you know you're dead.

581
00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:29,760
Yeah. And generally speaking for
one thing, there's a lot of

582
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,910
people following these guys so
there's they do have a group of

583
00:34:32,910 --> 00:34:36,390
followers and their army is
doing whatever it does, they'll

584
00:34:36,390 --> 00:34:42,000
take areas even on maybe a front
for some intelligence groups. In

585
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,840
the in in any war. One of the
things that is always a problem

586
00:34:46,140 --> 00:34:52,650
for aihole leadership is a thing
you know, I think it referred to

587
00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:59,460
as fragging, where you shoot the
guy, you have a gun and it

588
00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:02,940
happens to In Vietnam was it was
scandalous How many guys were

589
00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:06,390
shot by friendly fire
accidentally, sometimes in the

590
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:11,490
back of a head as they were Come
on, man, let's go do this and

591
00:35:11,490 --> 00:35:14,310
then you know, next thing you
know the guy was dead by

592
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:22,170
accident. fratricide and it was
or a grenade would go off by him

593
00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:26,340
or something. I mean there's you
don't these types of brutal

594
00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:30,870
military operations, I think are
I think this is just it's just

595
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:34,200
propaganda I don't think it's as
bad as they say. I think these

596
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,510
guys would be dropping left and
right to be killing each other.

597
00:35:36,570 --> 00:35:40,200
I agree with you. Now this this
is and it also is a part of the

598
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,740
Strong Cities Network this this
ties into it even following

599
00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:52,470
this. No Strong Cities
network.org And this is a notch

600
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:56,040
funded by the US State
Department. And the cities

601
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:04,470
involved are New York, London,
Beirut, our hosts Atlanta

602
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:11,670
Rotterdam, Victoria, Stockholm,
Copenhagen, condo, Montreal,

603
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:20,100
Palermo, Mumbai, Denver, Mombasa
and they are training Denver via

604
00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:24,300
here the strong City's network
aims to connect cities and other

605
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:26,850
local authorities on an
international basis to enhance

606
00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:30,450
local level approaches to
prevent violent extremism

607
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:34,560
including facilitating
information sharing, mutual

608
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,340
learning and creation of new and
innovative local practices.

609
00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:47,280
And by Yeah, this is Rumble
Stream ism in Denver Yeah, yeah.

610
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Hey man whatever no my pot

611
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:58,110
but I think you have to see it
as a as interconnected with you

612
00:36:58,110 --> 00:37:00,960
know, that we're seeing a
Canadian cities we're seeing

613
00:37:01,170 --> 00:37:05,040
British cities are failing us
cities, France, a French cities.

614
00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:08,610
And you know, there's this you
know, I guess we're putting our

615
00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:13,590
guys in to train people to catch
extremists and people who are

616
00:37:13,590 --> 00:37:18,000
troublemakers pretty much if
you're vocally opposed to the

617
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,900
values

618
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,110
Yeah, all they're doing is
managing the catch complainers.

619
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:30,660
I don't think there's enough I
don't know. It's just a you

620
00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:33,990
know, this idea that this is an
attack on free speech.

621
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,120
Everything that you've talked
about since the beginning of

622
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,670
this segment? Yes. Well, that's
why I'm talking about it because

623
00:37:38,670 --> 00:37:40,920
that's it's an attack on free
speech exactly

624
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,940
what it is. Here the Strong
Cities Network Sen has been

625
00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:48,000
created to achieve a focused and
rapid exchange of ideas and

626
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,420
methods to strengthen the
safety, security and cohesion of

627
00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:54,150
communities and cities. The
Strong Cities Network will

628
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:56,640
connect cities and local
authority practitioners through

629
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,480
practical workshops, training,
seminars, webinars, I just threw

630
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,020
that in and substance sustain
city partnerships and ORs they

631
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:07,950
should use webinars, Strong City
network members, cities will

632
00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:10,950
also contribute to and benefit
from an online information hub

633
00:38:11,010 --> 00:38:15,420
all sounds like a dashboard of
the municipal level good

634
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:18,180
practices and web based training
modules there you go there's

635
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:22,260
your webinar as well as city to
city exchanges Strong Cities

636
00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:24,990
Network member cities will be
eligible for grants supporting

637
00:38:24,990 --> 00:38:27,780
new innovative pilot projects
and money grab

638
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,970
Yeah, it's a money grab.

639
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,920
By God it's also to tell people
to shut up

640
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,460
Yeah, anything to get people to
shut up it's really annoying to

641
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:44,010
have to listen to people
complaining not good.

642
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:51,630
Not good at all. Okay. So we
have this interesting story

643
00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:59,100
about a so called 15 year old
stone kid who hacked into John

644
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,820
Brennan's email personal rounder
on this you got a background or

645
00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:03,420
Okay.

646
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:08,910
Which one died by the way, they
got all of these from the I got

647
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,610
all these background and I got
all of them the three by three

648
00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:12,090
networks.

649
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Oh, hold on a second three by
three. What's done both free

650
00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:20,790
experiment by JC comparing story
from ABC

651
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,400
bam, there you go. The Big Three
by three.

652
00:39:29,609 --> 00:39:34,349
Now. Three by three. The three
networks. It's funny, I know.

653
00:39:34,349 --> 00:39:35,939
There's a new observation I'm
gonna make.

654
00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:38,700
Is it really fun day? Is it
really funny?

655
00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:47,010
It's hilarious. Okay, on Monday.
It is. Almost almost all three

656
00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:50,670
of the networks on Monday have
the exact same stories. It's

657
00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:54,180
strange. We had a week every
other day. They're all over the

658
00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:57,660
place. But on Monday, all the
stories are pretty much the

659
00:39:57,660 --> 00:39:59,970
same. And it's pretty amusing
because anybody would end up

660
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,810
Brandon's story was one of them.
This is the night so I had I

661
00:40:03,810 --> 00:40:06,270
looked at all three of them. I
said the CBS report seems to be

662
00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:09,690
the best. So this is the email
hacker rundown on CBS. I think

663
00:40:09,690 --> 00:40:11,880
it was the best of the three.
The personal

664
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,030
emails of two of the highest
ranking national security

665
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:18,810
officials have been hacked CIA
Director John Brennan, and

666
00:40:18,810 --> 00:40:22,800
Homeland Security Secretary Jeh
Johnson, and anonymous hacker

667
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,400
has been bragging about breaking
into the accounts, but now,

668
00:40:26,610 --> 00:40:30,330
multiple law enforcement sources
have told us the breaches

669
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,720
actually occurred. Jeff, the
gaze is breaking this new

670
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,880
development in our Washington
newsroom.

671
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:39,450
Scott, this is a criminal
investigation and authorities

672
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,960
are working to locate the
suspect he seems to be feeding

673
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,840
off the publicity and that's in
part why investigators are

674
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600
reluctant to talk about it but
multiple law enforcement

675
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,430
officials tell CBS News that he
had unauthorised access to both

676
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,680
private email accounts. Late in
the day, the person tweeting

677
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,460
under the handle of CWA followed
through on threats to release

678
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:03,690
sensitive information.

679
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:08,010
I like CWA by the way, crackers
with attitude, very cool,

680
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,180
you know, we don't lie. What you
have all been waiting for. Sorry

681
00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:15,600
for the delay. Along with that
statement came in attachment

682
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,530
with the names, social security
numbers, and phone numbers of

683
00:41:19,530 --> 00:41:22,560
about 20 people said to be
affiliated with the head of the

684
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,120
CIA. In fact, the unidentified
hacker who claims to be a high

685
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,940
school student says the
information came from the

686
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:33,900
private email account of CIA
Director John Brennan, whoever

687
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:37,290
it is also claims to have hacked
into the private email account

688
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,100
of Homeland Security Secretary
Jay Johnson. Throughout the day

689
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,710
that hacker appeared to be
taunting the officials and

690
00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:46,980
others in government. We are not
doing this for personal

691
00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:50,340
satisfaction. We are doing this
because innocent people in

692
00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:53,640
Palestine are being killed
daily. Now,

693
00:41:53,850 --> 00:41:55,860
it goes on by Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

694
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:59,640
Well, a couple of things that we
know, first of all, anyone who

695
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,210
has an AOL account for their
email, you're just a loser no

696
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:06,630
matter what. Just right off the
bat, you know, like, Are you

697
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:09,780
kidding me? This appeared to
have been a dormant account,

698
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:15,030
though. And I found it
surprising. The right on the

699
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:19,770
heels of the of the news that
Julian Assange would no longer

700
00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:25,890
be locked in the embassy with
police guard 24/7 outside wiki,

701
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:29,370
Wiki Leaks goes ahead and
publishes this information,

702
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:32,490
including his his background
check Forum, which has a lot of

703
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:35,280
personal information. I didn't
redact it. So it was address,

704
00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:41,220
you know, as kids is, whereas in
laws living, which, to me, you

705
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:44,430
know, I think we've collectively
always had a suspicion that

706
00:42:44,430 --> 00:42:48,780
WikiLeaks is more aligned with
CIA than, than anyone cares to

707
00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:52,770
admit. So it was interesting
that Wikileaks did that. I mean,

708
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:56,460
there's no real discernible
value to to the emails that came

709
00:42:56,460 --> 00:43:02,460
out. You know, they all were
from 2008 2009 When before

710
00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:07,920
Brendan became enlisted as a
civil servant. So not

711
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,020
necessarily like a Hillary email
thing. But then I'm already

712
00:43:13,020 --> 00:43:16,470
like, why is this happening?
What is going on? And why are we

713
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:20,370
Why do we have some stoner kid,
you know, who's being blamed for

714
00:43:20,370 --> 00:43:24,990
this? And we'll leave it to one
of our dopey Texans. Sorry to

715
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:28,530
say it because I wanted to like
this guy, for personal reasons.

716
00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:31,920
Mike McCaul, who was the
chairman of the thing is Chad,

717
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,900
he's the new chairman of the
Homeland Security Committee.

718
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:37,500
He's the Republican here in
Texas.

719
00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:44,790
Is he making the call? Is he
okay? Yeah, he's the guy. Is he

720
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:46,320
the guy to call from Mike
Rogers? Yes.

721
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,310
He's the new guy. Okay.

722
00:43:47,310 --> 00:43:49,740
There's the Intelligence
Committee. The Homeland Security

723
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:54,330
is different intelligence. I'm
sorry. And he is a tow. I don't

724
00:43:54,330 --> 00:43:57,270
know why you said that. Because
we've talked about this guy on

725
00:43:57,270 --> 00:44:00,360
the show before and I called him
out as a douchebag. Right. He

726
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,550
refused to look at Feinstein's
report. Yes. Which was kept is

727
00:44:05,550 --> 00:44:08,910
kept in a locked room. And
anyone can Congress can go read

728
00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:14,610
it. It's about the bit about the
CIA torture programme, right.

729
00:44:14,850 --> 00:44:18,090
And anyone could go read it. And
only Democrats have read it.

730
00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:21,420
These Republican won't read it.
The guy and this guy made a big

731
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:23,580
point of it. I'm going to be the
head. Wait, let me get this

732
00:44:23,580 --> 00:44:25,890
straight. I'm going to take over
from my garage. I'm going to be

733
00:44:25,890 --> 00:44:28,470
the head of the Intelligence
Committee for the House. The

734
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:31,500
House Intelligence Committee, I
guess is called oversight

735
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:35,760
committee. Yeah. And I'm not I'm
going to not read this. Well, he

736
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,550
kind of a guy is this I would do
that. Let's see. He's a

737
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:39,390
douchebag. Well,

738
00:44:39,390 --> 00:44:42,360
not only that, he didn't read
his script, and he went on with

739
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,020
broth. Now, let me ask you just
a side question. Has anyone

740
00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:49,920
actually been implicated in the
OPM, the Office of Personnel

741
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,300
Management hack and the theft of
possibly up to 20 million?

742
00:44:54,330 --> 00:44:57,630
No. And I want to said you
mentioned it that's what I was

743
00:44:57,630 --> 00:45:00,750
where I was going. I don't think
this guy this kid. If it was a

744
00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:04,230
kid, it could be anyone, let
alone a stoner. I don't believe

745
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:07,950
this kid did anything other than
get a hold of the OPM files

746
00:45:07,950 --> 00:45:11,100
because there's all this
information seems to me. There's

747
00:45:11,490 --> 00:45:16,170
what OPM what OPM files are Jim
Brennan's OPM file. Yeah, right.

748
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,830
All the OPM files is a big valid
4 million people in all this.

749
00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:21,090
Yeah, no, no, no, hold on, hold

750
00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:24,900
on. He got he got Brennan's
security clearance form, which

751
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:29,610
is the same in that file, right.
But but it was in his email.

752
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:33,930
That doesn't make sense. It was
it was called it was the if you

753
00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:38,370
look at the WikiLeaks release,
it's called draft. What is it,

754
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,660
whatever the form number is, and
it was his draft of his form

755
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:45,330
that he was sending in because
this was before he was in

756
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:48,750
the agency. Yeah. And he's going
to do it over email. Uh huh.

757
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,290
I'm just telling you what the
what we have, and I know what

758
00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:53,130
you're saying. Okay. So

759
00:45:53,130 --> 00:45:55,470
it has, that's the way it's
presented. But I think this is

760
00:45:55,470 --> 00:45:58,590
just some data that was pulled
from the OPM hack. Well, I think

761
00:45:58,590 --> 00:46:00,810
whoever this person is, as part
of that deal.

762
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,110
Well, you're faster than I could
get to it in your analysis. I

763
00:46:04,110 --> 00:46:07,440
think you're right. And it is
Dumbo. Let's call it non

764
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,300
douchebag, but Dumbo, Michael
McCaul, who blows the script

765
00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:13,500
entirely.

766
00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:16,320
First of all, you know, who was
responsible for this hack?

767
00:46:17,310 --> 00:46:21,870
And not at this point in time,
Wolf. But the idea that John

768
00:46:21,870 --> 00:46:26,220
Brennan's personal emails could
be vulnerable to a cyber attack

769
00:46:26,220 --> 00:46:29,190
like this to a hack is very
disturbing. I mean, of course,

770
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:30,540
there's been a lot of discussion
about

771
00:46:30,570 --> 00:46:33,840
Now listen, he just said that
John Brennan's email could be

772
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,350
vulnerable to a cyber hack hack,
like this is very disturbing,

773
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,540
personal email servers as of
late and, you know, the idea

774
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:45,450
that they could get his
information. And I know that Jay

775
00:46:45,450 --> 00:46:48,450
Johnson, the Secretary of
Homeland Security, who testified

776
00:46:48,450 --> 00:46:52,080
before my committee talked about
some of his private information

777
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,580
being stolen as well. This is
the breach at OPM 20 million

778
00:46:56,580 --> 00:47:01,860
security clearances stolen by
China. There are various nation

779
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:05,430
states like China that engage in
espionage. And I wouldn't be

780
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:07,410
surprised if China was behind
this one.

781
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:12,270
Hold on, hold on, hold on a
second. Did you hear what he

782
00:47:12,270 --> 00:47:14,040
said? Yeah, I

783
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,050
hear what he said. First, he
said,

784
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,260
China's behind the OPM attack
the first time you've heard the

785
00:47:19,260 --> 00:47:23,700
real number of 20 million. It's
always been 11, or 12, or four.

786
00:47:23,730 --> 00:47:28,350
And then he says, I think China
was behind this as well. That's

787
00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:31,920
what he said. Now. Now, broth,
of course, is confused, because

788
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,680
broth has the script right in
front of him. And it's supposed

789
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,040
to say that and remember that it
was horrible. It's very

790
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,730
troubling. That's the John
Brennan's emails were hacked

791
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:45,660
behind this one, because it
seems like this hacker claims to

792
00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:49,350
be under 22, a young kid who's
stoned all the time you think

793
00:47:49,350 --> 00:47:49,590
that?

794
00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:52,620
Oh, I apologise. You're correct
about that.

795
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,550
Oops, how's the old back then?
Oh, what's he gonna do? What's

796
00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:57,030
he gonna do?

797
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,470
This was a young, sort of
anonymous.

798
00:48:03,390 --> 00:48:05,490
Listen to what he says listen to
what he says the whole thing is

799
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:06,300
funny. Listen,

800
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:12,120
this was a young sort of
anonymous type figure that

801
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,400
didn't claim to be stoned at the
time he did that which is

802
00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:17,700
remarkable, given what he
accomplished

803
00:48:17,819 --> 00:48:21,419
way so instead of it being a
horrible, very troubling thing,

804
00:48:21,449 --> 00:48:24,839
oh, it was just some stone kid
actually. It's amazing what he

805
00:48:24,839 --> 00:48:29,549
did being so hammered. What is
up with this?

806
00:48:32,610 --> 00:48:35,430
Well, I think you're you're
correct in the your assumption

807
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:37,800
that there was a script
involved. And he went off script

808
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,080
because he was getting a little
early because he I think he got

809
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,480
emotional when he started
talking about the Chinese with a

810
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,160
suspect of everything. He said,
right crap, anything's China did

811
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,410
this. And that, which is
probably what he does think.

812
00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:53,010
Then all of a sudden, the
script, then broke, reminds him

813
00:48:53,010 --> 00:48:54,240
and says, Hey, you're

814
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,160
in the wrong screwed, man. What
do you do? And this is the

815
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,200
stoner script. Oh, yeah.

816
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,020
I'm supposed to be going with
this. And you're going off the

817
00:49:01,020 --> 00:49:04,500
deep end is we're broke. Well,
that was horrible. Wait.

818
00:49:04,860 --> 00:49:07,650
But you're you're you're saying
that China was responsible for

819
00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:11,100
the hack of the all that
personal data from the Office of

820
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:12,990
Personnel Management, the
government agency?

821
00:49:13,620 --> 00:49:17,250
That is my, my opinion, because
Big Data Theft,

822
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,640
big data theft. Now, first of
all, this is the first anyone's

823
00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:24,870
ever any statutes that China?
No, no one has said China. This

824
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:27,750
is the first guy this is the
first time he says China, and he

825
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:33,060
says it's a big data theft. Oh,
that, of course, China.

826
00:49:33,450 --> 00:49:36,870
Big Data Theft is not done for
criminal purposes. Oh, no,

827
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,340
no. He's lost it completely
here.

828
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,730
breach, it's to get big data to
exploit that data, and then

829
00:49:47,730 --> 00:49:51,630
compromised individuals in the
federal government. So this is a

830
00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:55,350
classic case of espionage, the
attribution

831
00:49:55,830 --> 00:49:59,700
and what we know about the OPM
hack is that it was a contractor

832
00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:03,780
who who shared credentials with
somebody? And you know, then

833
00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:06,390
someone got in use those
credentials found an

834
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:11,160
administrator account open use
that. Yeah, it's like this is

835
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:13,230
this was not so obvious that it
was China, it

836
00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:18,270
was back to the same source as
Anthem Blue Cross tacks into

837
00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:22,290
China. The Chinese, of course,
are saying it wasn't they had

838
00:50:22,290 --> 00:50:26,850
nothing to do with this. But the
way it was done, the fact that

839
00:50:26,850 --> 00:50:32,730
was espionage, all fall fingers
all roads point to the PRC as

840
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:33,570
being responsible.

841
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:38,940
Okay. Well, thanks that didn't
realise that Mr. McCall, want to

842
00:50:38,940 --> 00:50:41,910
hear a little more of him in
broth broth can brings up some

843
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:44,160
other new information which we
have not heard yet,

844
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,800
your chairman today. In a
hearing it was revealed there

845
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,760
what there have been more than
300 cases of small scale cyber

846
00:50:50,850 --> 00:50:54,270
physical attacks against power
grids here in the United States

847
00:50:54,270 --> 00:50:58,860
since 2011. And not one suspect
from these attacks has been

848
00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:02,910
identified, let alone arrested.
Why can't these suspects be

849
00:51:02,910 --> 00:51:03,630
tracked down?

850
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:06,240
What do you think the answer is
to this? China?

851
00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:11,820
Well, they can be inaccurate,
listen to it and take place and

852
00:51:11,820 --> 00:51:16,710
we can tie back to the actors.
The problem that you saw at the

853
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:20,220
hearing was we have no response
there. There are no there's no

854
00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:23,130
proportionate response to these
attacks, there's no

855
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,630
responsibility. If you don't
have consequences, bad behaviour

856
00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:31,440
will continue I'd five teenage
teenagers and if there are no

857
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,140
consequences, the bad behaviour,
they're going to continue.

858
00:51:34,140 --> 00:51:35,100
That's the same thing.

859
00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:38,310
Now he's again, he's trying to
bring in like stone teenagers

860
00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:41,280
for some reason, I think what's
that's not what he really wants

861
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:41,970
to say happening

862
00:51:41,970 --> 00:51:46,260
with China, Russia, China, Iran
is carrying out cyber breaches.

863
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:50,460
And there are no rules of the
game here. It's not defined what

864
00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:54,510
cyber warfare really is, at this
point in time, and again, the

865
00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:57,540
President met with the leader of
China and I know they're,

866
00:51:57,540 --> 00:52:01,950
they're talking, but I haven't
seen any any response to the OPM

867
00:52:01,950 --> 00:52:05,490
breach whatsoever. Man. Yeah,

868
00:52:05,490 --> 00:52:08,340
blah, blah, blah, China um, I'm
not I'm not China. I'm lamb lamb

869
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:15,990
lamb love China, China. This guy
is is he should be reprimanded,

870
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:20,130
at least for this. He shouldn't
be on these shows, and the

871
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,400
military industrial complex has
ramped it up. This is a little

872
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,180
promo reel that I grabbed from
Raytheon, which is new. I think

873
00:52:27,180 --> 00:52:31,560
our dudes named Ben will get a
kick out of Raytheon has a new

874
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,010
concept they're selling to
government and to military. It's

875
00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:40,800
called Cyber hardening. John,
cyber hardening. And we all have

876
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,820
to do it, cyber hardening, and
Raytheon is the company to do it

877
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:45,600
for you.

878
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,240
embedded computing systems are
commonplace in today's connected

879
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:55,680
environment. Everything from
vehicles and appliances, to

880
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,190
defence systems and satellites
are making our lives easier,

881
00:52:59,370 --> 00:53:03,630
with amazing efficiency. To
ensure these systems continue to

882
00:53:03,630 --> 00:53:06,960
operate properly, they have to
be secured through a process

883
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,220
called Cyber hardening. Insider
negligence and cyber attackers

884
00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:15,960
can expose vulnerabilities that
could destroy alter or takeover

885
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:20,310
any given connected device.
Globally governed governments,

886
00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:23,640
militaries and private
organisations must take these

887
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,310
four steps to reduce risks. Wow,
four

888
00:53:26,310 --> 00:53:27,960
steps you ready for the four
steps you might want to take

889
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,610
notes and ready to get my pen
out? Alright,

890
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:32,340
here we go. Conduct
vulnerability assessments and

891
00:53:32,340 --> 00:53:35,130
penetration testing of software
and hardware.

892
00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:39,300
Okay, penetration test gotta
check updating

893
00:53:39,330 --> 00:53:42,870
outdated and unpatched software.
Yeah, and removing any

894
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:45,420
unnecessary software and user
accounts.

895
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,620
Set up intrusion detection,
intrusion detection, what a

896
00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:51,270
concept intrusion prevention

897
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,950
and tamper resistant protections
and make sure members of their

898
00:53:55,950 --> 00:53:59,280
supply chain employ strong cyber
hardening practices

899
00:53:59,340 --> 00:54:01,170
cyber hardened pride I'm hard

900
00:54:01,170 --> 00:54:03,990
right now somebody should hack
Raytheon

901
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:06,060
big. Well, you know this is

902
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,190
I think, hey you hackers out

903
00:54:08,190 --> 00:54:11,340
there I think this is kind of
the beauty of of the situation

904
00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:14,970
Raytheon the situation we're in
right now is that all of this is

905
00:54:14,970 --> 00:54:17,700
going to be hacked everybody
everything you put in place

906
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:23,130
there is no no failsafe all
secure it just doesn't exist

907
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:27,420
does not exist it's not possible
but everyone believes in this

908
00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:31,440
this farce that it's all safe
and secure. And but you know

909
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,870
with Raytheon, I'm sure we can
give those guys a couple billion

910
00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:35,670
dollars to side the new hardware
me

911
00:54:36,030 --> 00:54:40,200
well executed and continuously
updated. Cyber hardening plan

912
00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:43,200
will help minimise granita
continue like the marketing

913
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:47,640
Yeah, continuously cyber
harbour, cyber hardening

914
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,490
expert and you know who they're
using. We can make more money

915
00:54:50,550 --> 00:54:54,180
selling cyber hardening. advice
advice.

916
00:54:55,650 --> 00:55:01,800
We've got virtual Viagra to
harden your cyber It's just

917
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,200
it's, it's an insult to anybody

918
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,370
who did that character. You had
the clip of McCall, Mike

919
00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:12,120
McCauley. McCollum, Mike, Mike,
Mike, I can always make the

920
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,150
guy's first name has to be Mike.
Mike Rogers, this guy.

921
00:55:16,289 --> 00:55:17,849
No more Michael Mann.

922
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:25,140
We did. I think his initial
attempt to like, discuss this

923
00:55:25,140 --> 00:55:29,400
was designed to make to do a
parallel thought process where

924
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,540
you'd say, Oh, if these guys can
have their accounts, so easily

925
00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:35,700
hacked because there weren't
government accounts. It was an

926
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,090
AOL account. Or another one it
was, yeah, this could have

927
00:55:39,090 --> 00:55:40,260
happened to Hillary.

928
00:55:40,740 --> 00:55:43,410
Wait, no, I don't think that's
it, I think something else is

929
00:55:43,410 --> 00:55:48,000
going on. Again, we have
WikiLeaks, publishing for no

930
00:55:48,450 --> 00:55:52,620
discernible journalistic
purpose. As far as I can tell,

931
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,750
publishing where they have like
eight emails, all from 2008. Now

932
00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:02,100
before Brennan was, was
inserted, why those eight that's

933
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:05,610
all there is. This is an old
account, you

934
00:56:05,610 --> 00:56:07,590
see, but I'm just an old lady.
Yeah, it's an old account. I

935
00:56:07,590 --> 00:56:09,990
know, I'm thinking that you
know, this, they're doing this

936
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:12,630
for a reason. And it's possibly
kind of what I thought you've

937
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:16,440
already thought you were going
is we have cyber legislation

938
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,580
coming up for a vote in the next
two months. We have the Sharing

939
00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:23,130
Act, you know, CES, we have all
these different, all these

940
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:26,340
different cyber acts. And I
think this is meant to,

941
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,480
purposely or not, but just say,
hey, that's so severe that we

942
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:36,090
even have our top guys, Johnson
and John Brennan, the drone

943
00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:38,670
Meister, is it they're being
hacked?

944
00:56:38,910 --> 00:56:42,300
Is it possible since you if you
want to make the assertion that

945
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:45,690
WikiLeaks is tight with the CIA?
That's what? That's what we've

946
00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:48,510
always asserted. I think that's
what okay, it's been long. Yes,

947
00:56:48,510 --> 00:56:54,510
it has. And they're sick of
Brennan. And then we're gonna

948
00:56:54,510 --> 00:56:59,430
start seeing a possible internal
policy of embarrassing Brennan

949
00:56:59,430 --> 00:57:03,330
at every step. That could be
possible way. So get him out of

950
00:57:03,330 --> 00:57:06,450
there, because he's screwing up.
That could be because the CIA is

951
00:57:06,450 --> 00:57:09,240
always assumed to have like a
shadow government running it.

952
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:13,980
Yeah. You know, it's like the
there's the head of the CIA. It

953
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:17,400
was just a political guy. George
HW Bush was one

954
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:19,890
button, then you'd expect
something to be in those emails

955
00:57:19,890 --> 00:57:24,300
that was damning, but there's
nothing is just a little cyber

956
00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:31,620
effects. I love CNN. It's just
it makes me think that cyber

957
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:33,870
hardening Hold on guys cyber
hard. And

958
00:57:36,510 --> 00:57:39,600
I think that the hack itself was
the damning part in this guy.

959
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,950
That does happen. Yeah. But
arguably, it's the same thing

960
00:57:43,950 --> 00:57:48,750
you have to portray us. The tres
was also outed, right? Not out.

961
00:57:48,750 --> 00:57:53,790
But he that was by the FBI. That
was, do we know that? It was not

962
00:57:53,790 --> 00:57:57,930
again? Oh, we don't know. We
don't know. We don't know. That

963
00:57:57,930 --> 00:57:58,920
that's not a good sound.

964
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,420
I'm cyber hardening the show.
It's it's not the right sound.

965
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,650
It's dirt. It's the same sound
as the CNN sound, is their

966
00:58:07,650 --> 00:58:14,160
sound. So something is up with
this. And and the thing that

967
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,760
really got me is when you have
McCall saying, Oh, it's so

968
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,060
horrible that Brennan got night,
it probably just to implicate

969
00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:23,520
the Chinese that that's the only
thing because that's where the

970
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,100
guy goofed up and he said, Oh,
this was done by China.

971
00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:30,150
Well, I'm just an idiot.
Possible.

972
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:33,000
But he was reading the rosewoods
done

973
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,880
by or maybe just suspects the
Chinese do everything. Yeah. But

974
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,320
it's hard for him

975
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,800
to say it's the Chinese. That's
that's big news. I

976
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:45,029
feel it is big news. But again,
if these just a moron shooting

977
00:58:45,029 --> 00:58:46,919
from the hip, and he doesn't
really know who it is, and no

978
00:58:46,919 --> 00:58:49,199
one's really testified to that
effect, even in the closed

979
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:53,249
hearings, then he's made me just
an idiot, which I'm more

980
00:58:53,249 --> 00:58:54,329
inclined to believe.

981
00:58:54,750 --> 00:58:59,610
Don't take away my thunder man.
I'm loving the China connection.

982
00:59:00,630 --> 00:59:01,710
I'm loving it. Well, I

983
00:59:01,710 --> 00:59:06,450
mean, I had a, I had a meeting
with the CEO of Cloudflare.

984
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:11,910
Because I'm looking into some of
these crazy outrageous networks

985
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:13,680
out there that are taking over
the world. That

986
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,340
was this week. And it was last
week. Interesting yet cloud flu.

987
00:59:17,370 --> 00:59:20,820
They're also the guys who you
can turn to if you have a DDoS

988
00:59:20,820 --> 00:59:22,950
attack. They're pretty good at
helping people with that. I

989
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:23,310
think

990
00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:26,550
they can stop any DDoS attack.
Now. He says right now their

991
00:59:26,550 --> 00:59:30,750
network is so big, there is no
player that can make a bigger

992
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,420
DDoS attack than they can handle
or

993
00:59:33,870 --> 00:59:38,940
that they could make. That's
just an aside. Yes, we want it

994
00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:39,600
to Okay.

995
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,550
Well, that he was relating a
story of some DDoS attacks that

996
00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:49,230
was started that started with
the DDoS attacks against hookers

997
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:53,460
in Turkey. There's a bunch of
hookers in Turkey and they're

998
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:57,270
having this DDoS attack on their
on their advertising websites.

999
00:59:57,270 --> 01:00:00,900
Yeah, because there's some some
console They sites or something,

1000
01:00:01,230 --> 01:00:03,840
and they took care of it. And
then there was another one that

1001
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,570
did a similar kind of thing that
the hookers but then there was a

1002
01:00:06,570 --> 01:00:09,900
big bank, there was a bunch of
these in a row and they and the

1003
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:12,870
attack was, according to their
one experts keep kept coming

1004
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:19,050
from the same place. And many if
not a majority of DDoS attacks

1005
01:00:19,410 --> 01:00:27,630
come from all I can identify it
as as northern Iran. Any been

1006
01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:31,800
mostly political attacks, so the
hookers were you know, sinners?

1007
01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:35,400
Yeah. So they were attacked in
some other than the bank was

1008
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,950
like, screwed him out of someone
who knows. But recently, he

1009
01:00:37,950 --> 01:00:41,070
wouldn't tell me which bank it
was, I suspect it was HSBC, but

1010
01:00:41,070 --> 01:00:43,410
it was a big international bank
and they were getting pounded

1011
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:48,660
and they came in to stop the
DDoS attacks using their

1012
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:52,470
methodologies and there there is
they have a very unique

1013
01:00:52,650 --> 01:00:57,900
architecture and but it seems to
be that a lot of this stuff

1014
01:00:57,900 --> 01:01:04,830
comes from Tehran area this is
never discussed no by anyone.

1015
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,400
And he said that you know, they
also do the cloud for also works

1016
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:13,440
for the government. Most big
agencies use their they have a

1017
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,460
layer you can just buy the layer
and the layer itself was we're

1018
01:01:17,460 --> 01:01:19,650
preventing the sort of DDoS
attacks and you shouldn't be

1019
01:01:20,070 --> 01:01:23,460
having DDoS attacks in this day
and age when these guys are

1020
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:25,860
around it's not an overpriced
product you can get a free

1021
01:01:25,860 --> 01:01:30,150
version if you're a small user
it's really an interesting

1022
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:34,560
operation at the same next I
visit with engine X

1023
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:41,430
engine X that's from Atlas
Shrugged isn't it? Is it yeah

1024
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:46,320
that the x engine engine X with
the Robbie is and with that I'd

1025
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,810
like to thank you so much for
your courage and say in the

1026
01:01:48,810 --> 01:01:52,620
morning to you John C with a C
stands for the Chinese did it

1027
01:01:52,650 --> 01:01:53,520
the vorak

1028
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,400
and will in the morning to you
Mr. Adam curry also in the

1029
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,170
morning all ships to see boots
on the ground feet in the air

1030
01:01:58,170 --> 01:02:00,120
subs in the water and all that
name is nights out there in the

1031
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,300
morning to everyone in the chat
room no agenda stream.com good

1032
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:05,940
to see everybody they're all
lined up being very helpful.

1033
01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:09,390
It's highly appreciated in the
morning to our artists. The

1034
01:02:09,390 --> 01:02:11,940
first time you can actually hear
my voice giving man hasn't

1035
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:17,310
happened a long time. Our
artists spades 85 brought us the

1036
01:02:17,310 --> 01:02:26,220
artwork for episode 766 And that
was the cyber soldiers episode

1037
01:02:26,430 --> 01:02:31,830
and we had it was simple art but
it was nice it really I know it

1038
01:02:31,830 --> 01:02:34,530
was clean the show with no
corporate sponsors no agenda

1039
01:02:34,530 --> 01:02:36,120
asked you to question authority

1040
01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:39,780
I think it was a good it was
nice. It was the standout piece

1041
01:02:39,780 --> 01:02:42,690
piece no agenda generator dot
kind of jumps out at Yeah, it

1042
01:02:42,690 --> 01:02:46,380
does. We do have a few people to
thank as executive and Associate

1043
01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:51,270
Executive producers for show 767
This is the Boeing jet episode

1044
01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:57,360
67 One the most popular wide
body jets in the world beginning

1045
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,780
with Sir Mad Hatter and
Fairfield Connecticut who

1046
01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:07,170
contributed to the show today as
executive producer 767 which is

1047
01:03:07,170 --> 01:03:08,280
a big donate haven't had

1048
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,620
that in a while and actual club
man. Well, it's

1049
01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:13,860
getting harder to do because it
costs more and more money. I'm

1050
01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:17,250
looking forward to show 777
Because it's three lucky numbers

1051
01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:21,570
dynamite will promote that when
it comes along. Please refer to

1052
01:03:21,570 --> 01:03:25,170
me as sir Mad Hatter. IDM ITM
John and Adam It's been a long

1053
01:03:25,170 --> 01:03:28,230
time since my last donation so I
thought I'd take a leap join the

1054
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:34,590
club 767 club and pay homage to
the 767 The show is my twice

1055
01:03:34,590 --> 01:03:37,680
weekly source of sanity
especially since changing jobs

1056
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,830
recently I wish I wish I had to
go into details but we'll have

1057
01:03:40,830 --> 01:03:44,400
to suffice to say that I now
work with and indirectly for

1058
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,180
folks whose names are featured
on the show from time to time

1059
01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:48,750
okay

1060
01:03:48,750 --> 01:03:52,530
we have a new producer with
inside information very nice. We

1061
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,230
do through this somehow
connected to some community or

1062
01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:59,670
other you love it once I am free
of my current job. I will have

1063
01:03:59,670 --> 01:04:03,330
lots of stories to share with
the listeners this way he does

1064
01:04:03,330 --> 01:04:06,570
not want to be mentioned by name
Gotcha. Thank you again for

1065
01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:09,870
deconstructing the media BS and
helping to keep us grounded in

1066
01:04:09,870 --> 01:04:13,860
reality. Adam lay off John on
the three by three. I think it's

1067
01:04:13,860 --> 01:04:14,790
a great segue. I

1068
01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:16,800
love the three by three. Yeah, I

1069
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,980
don't think he's actually giving
me crap about doing it. No, it's

1070
01:04:19,980 --> 01:04:23,280
just I think he's you're
misinterpreting Adams. motives.

1071
01:04:23,310 --> 01:04:26,940
Yeah, now that we got this last
jingle that just came in. I'm

1072
01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:29,670
going to do it longer. Now.
That's a great jingle now

1073
01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:35,580
it's time Bowen three by three.
Experiment by JC D. Comparing

1074
01:04:35,580 --> 01:04:36,870
story from ABC

1075
01:04:43,020 --> 01:04:44,790
producer Brian, Michael, thank
you very much.

1076
01:04:45,150 --> 01:04:47,640
I think it's a great segment. I
hope it continues throughout the

1077
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,210
election cycle. Yes. And all
three weeks of it. That's the

1078
01:04:51,210 --> 01:04:56,100
election cycle is a year. Can I
get in Oreos are more addictive

1079
01:04:56,100 --> 01:05:01,680
than cocaine? A milk and OMG Can
you see that? juice. Thank you

1080
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,130
for your courage sir Mad Hatter
night of the fifth column

1081
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:10,800
Oreos are just as addictive as
cocaine. That's one mother. I'd

1082
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,940
like to Oh my gosh. Can you see
that?

1083
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:18,480
You've got karma

1084
01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:26,340
David Young in San Anselmo over
here across the back and waved

1085
01:05:26,340 --> 01:05:30,990
to him for an in $10.16. Just a
quick note to wish you all the

1086
01:05:30,990 --> 01:05:34,350
best of your eighth anniversary,
I sent a donation for 1016. To

1087
01:05:34,350 --> 01:05:36,810
help further the cause. I
especially like what I read

1088
01:05:36,810 --> 01:05:39,540
today in Jon's newsletter about
native advertising. We'll talk a

1089
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:42,240
little bit about that later. In
the show because I got some more

1090
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,660
stuff. They have a native ad
that play. It's encouraging to

1091
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:49,500
know that with the high high
standards of the no agenda team,

1092
01:05:49,890 --> 01:05:52,980
when we are able to place our
paid content about honeymoon ice

1093
01:05:52,980 --> 01:05:56,910
cream in the show. It will be
met with total credulity by your

1094
01:05:56,910 --> 01:05:59,220
audience. I'd also like to
announce honeymoon ice cream,

1095
01:05:59,220 --> 01:06:01,680
we'll be serving our award
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1096
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,700
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free of charge outside the no

1097
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:08,280
agenda West Coast studio during
the taping of the eighth

1098
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,370
anniversary show, just tell us
where the studio is, and alert

1099
01:06:11,370 --> 01:06:13,080
the neighbourhood associations
and

1100
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,930
everyone should look under their
chair if you have a red ticket

1101
01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:17,160
than you in a car,

1102
01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:22,110
ad multos annos to the best
podcast in the universe, the

1103
01:06:22,110 --> 01:06:30,900
best. Thank you. Now that is, of
course our ice cream guy. And

1104
01:06:32,070 --> 01:06:35,970
which I'm trying to get to make
a chocolate Swiss chocolate,

1105
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:42,120
orange ice cream. I got into
games. A kid kid he's an adult.

1106
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,820
But he used to work for
Swensons. I talked about this on

1107
01:06:44,820 --> 01:06:48,330
the show that Swensons used to
have a bittersweet chocolate

1108
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,570
orange chip or something. And it
was a it was the ice cream I had

1109
01:06:51,570 --> 01:06:55,320
in in Colorado or France once,
but it had these little

1110
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,250
chocolate chips and I didn't
like that. But orange. And

1111
01:06:59,250 --> 01:07:03,840
chocolate is a great combination
as an ice cream is fantastic. He

1112
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,570
said he I'm gonna just as a
little aside, I want to bring it

1113
01:07:06,570 --> 01:07:08,730
up because people should know
this, especially younger people

1114
01:07:08,730 --> 01:07:11,070
out there. And I don't want to
say that everyone should be a

1115
01:07:11,070 --> 01:07:18,210
personal spy. But he worked for
Swensons. And then they folded

1116
01:07:18,210 --> 01:07:22,320
and I asked him, did you get the
recipes? Did you take the

1117
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,130
recipes home? Now I'm sure it's
illegal. It's probably

1118
01:07:26,790 --> 01:07:29,910
unethical. But if you want to
make some ice cream for your

1119
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:32,700
friends or something I don't see
it's really that unethical to

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01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,140
have a professional recipe to do
it with. And he says no, he

1121
01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:41,370
didn't. He forgot to take the
recipes. And he should have oh,

1122
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,670
and then I related that when I
worked for union oil as an

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,800
analytical chemist. They had a
binder full of proprietary

1124
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:50,670
tests. Let

1125
01:07:50,669 --> 01:07:52,949
me guess it's somewhere in a
pile in your office.

1126
01:07:52,979 --> 01:07:58,739
No, I was too young to realise
how valuable that binder was.

1127
01:07:58,769 --> 01:08:01,949
And especially one test in
particular, they had a test for

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01:08:01,949 --> 01:08:04,799
Tetra ethyl lead in gasoline,
which would be valueless now,

1129
01:08:04,979 --> 01:08:09,149
but it was the best test for it.
It was outrageously accurate

1130
01:08:09,149 --> 01:08:11,729
test. And anyone who's an
analytical chemist will know

1131
01:08:11,729 --> 01:08:16,169
that testing for this in that in
solutions is is a kind of a

1132
01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:20,219
black art. But I never thought
to take the book, steal

1133
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:25,050
steal kids, Uncle John says
steal your employer's secrets

1134
01:08:25,050 --> 01:08:28,860
you never know when it could
come in handy. I'm actually from

1135
01:08:28,860 --> 01:08:30,240
your no agenda show.

1136
01:08:30,329 --> 01:08:33,989
Now I'm going to do a
disclaimer. I'm sorry. I said

1137
01:08:33,989 --> 01:08:38,549
that. I take it all back. Okay,
or steal from your employer's

1138
01:08:38,549 --> 01:08:42,419
onward? mailing lists are very
valuable as mailing lists. Yeah.

1139
01:08:43,589 --> 01:08:50,039
All right. Anyway, sorry. Rods
side. Russell Hickey has $333.33

1140
01:08:50,369 --> 01:08:53,699
into the blue for no agenda show
from Nashville, Tennessee. Guys.

1141
01:08:53,699 --> 01:08:57,239
I'm so happy to support your
great work. This donation should

1142
01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:01,139
raise me to knighthood. I shall
now be addressed as Sir Russell

1143
01:09:01,139 --> 01:09:02,489
of the Belle Meade.

1144
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,160
All right. They'll need very
nice look forward to the

1145
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,540
ceremony. Yeah,

1146
01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:15,840
well. Matt Hyde in Brighton East
Sussex, UK 321 23. Great show.

1147
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,450
Sorry. It's been a few years
since my last donation please de

1148
01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:19,020
douche me.

1149
01:09:19,230 --> 01:09:20,670
You got it. Here we go.

1150
01:09:22,620 --> 01:09:24,450
You've been de deuced

1151
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:33,960
I had. All right. Well, please
use me I had a thought about the

1152
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,860
destabilisation of warm hot
countries like Syria and the

1153
01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:40,620
displacement of peoples to cold
countries in Northern Europe

1154
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:44,010
like Germany in the UK, more
people in Europe in a cold place

1155
01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:47,370
creates even larger market of
people who need their houses

1156
01:09:47,370 --> 01:09:51,030
heated. This increases gas
imports from the Soviets via

1157
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:56,040
pipelines, and potentially from
the US via LPG boat. If we take

1158
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,800
the numbers estimating 10
million migrants who didn't

1159
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,400
previously need heat Seeing
divide that up into family units

1160
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,180
gives potentially 4 million new
households, each spending around

1161
01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:12,240
1000 pounds a year on additional
gas imports that gives 4 billion

1162
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,690
a year in potential extra
revenue to the Russkies and

1163
01:10:15,690 --> 01:10:19,800
energy distributors assuming
they stay living in Europe. Over

1164
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,980
a lifetime that's a lot of
money. So basically bombs equals

1165
01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:26,340
displaced people equals new gas
market equals great business

1166
01:10:26,340 --> 01:10:30,420
model. Shout out to my dude
named Ben website. Hi,

1167
01:10:30,450 --> 01:10:32,880
I just wanted to respond to that
right now. They're They're

1168
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,660
intense. They're intense. They
have no toilets, they have no

1169
01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:41,520
food, they're kind of walking in
mud. They're cold. They're

1170
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,510
starving

1171
01:10:42,510 --> 01:10:44,160
like this guy's the way I like
to

1172
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:50,340
thinking. And, of course Turkey
is a part of the new the new

1173
01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:55,950
Russian gas pipeline, the new
South Stream there which will be

1174
01:10:55,950 --> 01:10:59,370
called the Turkish Stream. So I
like the thinking, but I think

1175
01:10:59,370 --> 01:11:03,510
that's just that's just a bonus.
There's really a lot more going

1176
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:03,900
on.

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01:11:04,110 --> 01:11:07,950
Shout out to my dude named Ben
website hide core.com Hy de

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01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:12,750
core, all one word and some jobs
karma and a bit of shopping

1179
01:11:12,750 --> 01:11:17,790
channel juice for good major.
Also a note to twit followers

1180
01:11:17,790 --> 01:11:22,560
ensure you actually unsubscribe
to twit not just that. You can

1181
01:11:22,590 --> 01:11:30,660
do this over jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for John can

1182
01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:31,950
you see that too?

1183
01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:34,140
Choose? You've got karma.

1184
01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:41,910
lifewater ranch. The this I
don't think this donation counts

1185
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:45,540
in the total. I think they win
life right at water ranch. They

1186
01:11:45,540 --> 01:11:49,770
did an E check. And the last
show I think they got on the

1187
01:11:49,770 --> 01:11:53,130
last show with their E check.
And now the E check went through

1188
01:11:53,130 --> 01:11:56,310
an E check when you use a Pay
Pal and you send in an E check.

1189
01:11:56,430 --> 01:12:00,930
It takes about six days. Okay.
And I think it just there's just

1190
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,800
cleared all right. All right,
Sir Tim nonnamous is legit. He

1191
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:10,710
sent in a check. And his usual
notes always the same. Sir Tim

1192
01:12:10,710 --> 01:12:16,860
nonnamous $310.26 David Warner
who I couldn't find a check or a

1193
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:23,670
note from 23456 Marshall red to
red touche red touche NiaK in

1194
01:12:23,670 --> 01:12:32,040
Saskatchewan, Regina, Regina,
Canada to 1026 Paul and he's got

1195
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:39,390
no note. Paul Crowe Schulich
Paul crochet lick in Johnson

1196
01:12:39,390 --> 01:12:42,360
City New York only sent a note
in his as to how to pronounce

1197
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,160
his name to under $10.26. Sure,
Hank of icon of Queens, Kew

1198
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:52,230
Gardens, New York had the debit
note credits or hang Vikon of

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01:12:52,230 --> 01:12:55,050
Queens here's a great eight
years of no agenda and eight

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01:12:55,050 --> 01:12:58,860
years more thanks to Adam. I was
motivated past the technicians

1201
01:12:58,860 --> 01:13:05,130
and general exam recently so 70
threes from KD to JM T can I get

1202
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:09,540
a bomb them again? Obama No no
no karma. Yeah, absolutely bomb

1203
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:10,050
them,

1204
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,900
bomb them and bomb them again

1205
01:13:24,990 --> 01:13:25,920
No, no no

1206
01:13:34,050 --> 01:13:37,440
and finally, you can use ginzu
tight and find your joint town

1207
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,210
with cough sounds like a sneeze?

1208
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,670
Yeah, that's bad. I'm muting the
whole time while I'm coughing

1209
01:13:41,670 --> 01:13:42,660
I'm trying to at least

1210
01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:46,980
JC Cohen is $20 in Parts
Unknown. We have no note or

1211
01:13:46,980 --> 01:13:51,150
anything from JC we do want to
thank him or her. It's one of

1212
01:13:51,150 --> 01:13:54,810
those crazy names for helping
out.

1213
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:58,320
Yeah, well we appreciate we
appreciate the help from our

1214
01:13:58,470 --> 01:14:00,960
executive producers and
Associate Executive Producers

1215
01:14:00,990 --> 01:14:05,040
these my friends are real
credits. And didn't someone send

1216
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,910
you a note on on the transom
about about using their credit

1217
01:14:08,910 --> 01:14:14,520
on on a dating website? Did
they? I think someone's I saw an

1218
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,740
email fly by it's like do you
think I should put it on my

1219
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:20,580
match.com profile and you said
Yeah of course. Yeah, I did.

1220
01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:23,880
Yeah, that makes you interesting
twice about it. Yeah makes it

1221
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,210
look interesting and if you need
will vouch for you with your

1222
01:14:27,210 --> 01:14:30,510
with your your match.com date or
your Christian Mingle date

1223
01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:33,810
might get lucky if you get in
touch another no agenda listener

1224
01:14:33,810 --> 01:14:36,360
who had no agenda listeners in
general no matter what their

1225
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:40,830
real party politics seem to get
along very well and

1226
01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:44,340
and no agenda listeners are
great in the sack.

1227
01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:47,730
They are.org/and

1228
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:51,840
It's facts, facts facts back
please be out there propagating

1229
01:14:51,840 --> 01:15:04,830
our formula do is this. We go
out for people in the mouth Hey

1230
01:15:04,830 --> 01:15:05,370
citizens

1231
01:15:12,090 --> 01:15:16,080
you know, I feel real bad now
why? Well telling people that if

1232
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,220
they get fired from their

1233
01:15:19,650 --> 01:15:22,680
company any secrets with them?
Yeah, dynamite.

1234
01:15:22,740 --> 01:15:25,590
I think it's against the law by
the way, so I should Yeah, Dad.

1235
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:25,950
Yeah.

1236
01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:30,360
Yeah, be careful with that is
vocal extremism against norms

1237
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,170
and values,

1238
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,720
but it would have been nice to
have the rest of it. You know,

1239
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,780
the funny thing was he thinks he
can reproduce the recipe guy and

1240
01:15:36,780 --> 01:15:40,380
he gave me the basic kind of
recipe for that chocolate ice

1241
01:15:40,380 --> 01:15:43,830
cream that they made, but he
didn't have the real recipe. So

1242
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:48,540
I got you, I got you. Well, we
learned something new yesterday.

1243
01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:52,800
And it was I was dumbfounded
having grown up in the

1244
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,090
Netherlands. You know, having
many playdates and friends who

1245
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,600
had their grandparents around
with the tattooed numbers from

1246
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,530
concentration camps on their on
their arms and their forearms. i

1247
01:16:04,530 --> 01:16:08,520
We learned something brand new
from Israeli Prime Minister Bibi

1248
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,820
Netanyahu. Here's the Jake
Tapper. CNN

1249
01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:15,120
reports are tensions continue to
run high after days of bloodshed

1250
01:16:15,420 --> 01:16:17,490
between Israel and the
Palestinians adding fuel to the

1251
01:16:17,490 --> 01:16:20,550
fire today claims may, made by
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

1252
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:24,420
Netanyahu claims that Hitler
just wanted to expel Jews from

1253
01:16:24,420 --> 01:16:26,910
Europe but then a prominent
Muslim leader in Jerusalem

1254
01:16:26,910 --> 01:16:29,850
suggested that Hitler
exterminate them. Instead, the

1255
01:16:29,850 --> 01:16:32,670
comments have drawn widespread
condemnation not only from

1256
01:16:32,670 --> 01:16:35,430
Palestinian leaders and
Israelis, including those in his

1257
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:38,940
own party, but from leading
Israeli historians and advocates

1258
01:16:38,940 --> 01:16:41,670
for survivors of the Holocaust.
There is growing concern that

1259
01:16:41,670 --> 01:16:45,300
Netanyahu his remarks will only
throw flames on the fire.

1260
01:16:45,570 --> 01:16:50,280
So I figured we'd listen to the
actual piece of his speech, just

1261
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,680
to get a better understanding
because this is probably going

1262
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,140
to talk about the Grand Mufti.
Yeah, he's talking about

1263
01:16:55,140 --> 01:17:00,480
Muhammad affendi Amin al
Husseini, who indeed was against

1264
01:17:00,510 --> 01:17:05,700
the Jews and teamed up with the
Germans. But the way Netanyahu

1265
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:10,230
put this in his speech was
really, really baffling for

1266
01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:12,840
anyone who's you know, learned
about the Second

1267
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,990
World War or anyone who you
know, did any, any student of

1268
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:16,770
Himmler.

1269
01:17:16,799 --> 01:17:19,919
I mean, when you when you listen
to this, you'd think that Hitler

1270
01:17:19,919 --> 01:17:23,669
was kind of a moderate guy, you
know? Yeah, you know, just you

1271
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:26,399
know, the Jews are a little
troubling. And then the movie

1272
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:28,589
comes along and says, You gotta
burn them burn,

1273
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,430
and this attack and others
attack. Other attacks from the

1274
01:17:32,430 --> 01:17:40,020
Jewish community 1920 1921 1929
were instigated by a call of the

1275
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:43,830
Mufti of Jerusalem Hodge, Amin
al Husseini, who was later

1276
01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:47,850
sought for war crimes in the
Nuremberg trials because he had

1277
01:17:47,850 --> 01:17:53,790
a central role. In fomenting the
final solution, he flew to

1278
01:17:53,790 --> 01:17:58,560
Berlin. Hitler didn't want to
exterminate the Jews at the time

1279
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,490
he wanted to expel the Jews. And
Jemima who said Hussaini went

1280
01:18:02,490 --> 01:18:07,470
over and said, If you expel
them, they'll all come here. So

1281
01:18:07,470 --> 01:18:16,500
what should I do with them? Yes,
you said he was sought. During

1282
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:20,550
the norburn, cause for
prosecution, you escaped it,

1283
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:26,490
later died in cancer after the
war died of cancer. Jimena

1284
01:18:26,490 --> 01:18:30,780
Hussein, he said, he said the
Jews seek to destroy the temple

1285
01:18:30,780 --> 01:18:34,920
mount my grandfather in 1926 to
destroy the sorry, the alloga

1286
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:35,400
Mosque,

1287
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:36,539
Al Aqsa Mosque.

1288
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:39,540
So this line is about 100 years
old.

1289
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:45,330
Yeah. Okay. So I just love that.
Yeah, Hitler

1290
01:18:45,330 --> 01:18:47,460
was kind of a cool guy, you
know, he's like, kind of the

1291
01:18:47,460 --> 01:18:49,500
chooser just a little, just a
little annoying.

1292
01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:52,470
And like, we knew him. We just
wish this guy sent on the

1293
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:55,680
express train. You know, we just
said send them away. And then

1294
01:18:55,890 --> 01:18:59,010
the Mufti came along and said
that burn them, burn them. And

1295
01:18:59,010 --> 01:19:02,970
Hitler went? Well, that's a good
idea. I think we should change

1296
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:06,300
the Common Core textbooks to
include this now.

1297
01:19:08,670 --> 01:19:10,500
I'm trying to get the date of

1298
01:19:10,860 --> 01:19:14,640
it was 1941. Apparently, when I
was 21, they had this meeting

1299
01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:17,220
that would have a bit of a
holiday. It was already

1300
01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:19,050
underway, but there's no
evidence.

1301
01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:22,080
There's no evidence that the
movie said this. And Hitler

1302
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,880
went, Oh, that's a good idea.
There's no evidence of that.

1303
01:19:27,810 --> 01:19:28,950
It didn't do it. But

1304
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:33,870
this is this is Netanyahu
saying, once again, it's the

1305
01:19:33,870 --> 01:19:37,590
damn Arab Arabs. It's the
Palestinians. It's their all to

1306
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:39,870
blame. They did it.

1307
01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:42,600
Oh, yeah. This is gonna be the
end of this guy.

1308
01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:46,950
Is he insane? I don't know why
they keep voting him in. But

1309
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:49,260
there are people who are who are
sticking up for him saying yeah,

1310
01:19:49,260 --> 01:19:52,230
that's true was true was true.
There's scholars who were saying

1311
01:19:52,260 --> 01:19:55,710
there's lots of scholars who are
saying it's not true, but

1312
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:56,610
man

1313
01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:06,270
Speaking of bullcrap and not
true. I've been ever since you

1314
01:20:06,270 --> 01:20:08,550
brought it up and I kind of
dismissed it because I've

1315
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:13,650
followed the belling cat, guys,
Eliot Higgins, the blogger who,

1316
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:22,560
who testified before the MH 17.
Committee in the safety board in

1317
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:28,710
the Netherlands. And he's now an
expert on weapon systems who was

1318
01:20:28,710 --> 01:20:34,650
crowdsourcing? So he tweeted two
days ago, huge thanks to Google.

1319
01:20:35,670 --> 01:20:38,760
Google for media I should say
what is Google for media?

1320
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:42,960
is just one of those things they
got going on over there. You can

1321
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,390
charge to keep up. They don't
tell anybody what they're up to

1322
01:20:45,390 --> 01:20:49,110
they they have a closed shop.
They have very little wallets.

1323
01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:51,060
They never send out press
releases.

1324
01:20:52,110 --> 01:20:57,360
Huge thing. Oh, this Oh, Google
News lab. Okay, huge thanks to

1325
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,210
Google for media who have
provided funding to keep belling

1326
01:21:00,210 --> 01:21:03,720
cat alive for the next year and
pay for our first full time

1327
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:16,020
hire. Well, well, well. Isn't
that tidy? Huh? Super, super

1328
01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:17,100
tidy, I'd say.

1329
01:21:19,470 --> 01:21:22,680
That's interesting. Yeah. So
these guys just full of crap.

1330
01:21:22,710 --> 01:21:22,920
Oh,

1331
01:21:22,980 --> 01:21:29,280
well, you know, if you if you
look at Belling cat.com And I'm

1332
01:21:29,310 --> 01:21:33,900
I really I really don't trust
them at all. I think you know,

1333
01:21:33,930 --> 01:21:36,510
these guys are looking at
Google's now supporting you

1334
01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:40,710
kidding me? So much for your
independence. You know, there's

1335
01:21:40,710 --> 01:21:44,070
a lot of things they're not
really discussing. They're still

1336
01:21:44,370 --> 01:21:49,980
they still are all over this.
The MH 17 Shoot down.

1337
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,270
He's the number one guy he's the
go to comes around and says it

1338
01:21:54,270 --> 01:21:55,890
came from Russia. Russia did it.

1339
01:21:56,100 --> 01:22:00,240
Well, what's interesting is I
caught NPR doing something very,

1340
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,840
very, very nasty. This is Corey
fell toffee familiar with this

1341
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:08,460
guy? He's, he is I think he's
the main Moscow correspondent

1342
01:22:08,460 --> 01:22:13,170
for NPR. And he did this
reasonably long PR, not news

1343
01:22:13,170 --> 01:22:15,990
hour, right, NPR. And he does
this this piece about the

1344
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:19,200
report. And he says, Well, you
know, as long as nine out of 10

1345
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:23,040
minutes. Well, you know, then
the boot guys, they said it can

1346
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,650
be one of our you know, it
couldn't have been the Russians

1347
01:22:25,650 --> 01:22:28,950
because an outdated model on the
Ukrainians have that and they

1348
01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:32,550
build some stupid aeroplane. And
they tried to make it look like

1349
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:36,090
it would. So he's very, very
negative. And then he winds up

1350
01:22:36,090 --> 01:22:40,650
this report with an outright
lie, which was nowhere in the

1351
01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:41,940
report whatsoever.

1352
01:22:41,970 --> 01:22:45,060
Cory obviously, you've travelled
around this region many times

1353
01:22:45,300 --> 01:22:48,030
during the conflict, and you're
at the wreckage site in the days

1354
01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:51,390
after mh 17 went down. What's
your take on everything that's

1355
01:22:51,390 --> 01:22:52,230
known at this point?

1356
01:22:52,650 --> 01:22:55,710
Well, the separatists actually
seem to have boasted at one

1357
01:22:55,710 --> 01:23:00,420
point that they had a booth. We
reporters saw purported photos

1358
01:23:00,420 --> 01:23:03,900
of an online and we managed to
geo locate one of the places

1359
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:05,580
where one of those photos was
taken.

1360
01:23:05,610 --> 01:23:09,030
That's the Bellingcat work,
right? We go stand there and no,

1361
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:12,510
this is where we saw that little
brief piece of a YouTube video.

1362
01:23:12,630 --> 01:23:16,830
I went there and the location
match the photos. But I have to

1363
01:23:16,830 --> 01:23:20,010
say I was unable to find an
eyewitness who could positively

1364
01:23:20,010 --> 01:23:23,820
say that they've seen a book
there on the day. Mh 17 was

1365
01:23:23,850 --> 01:23:27,240
okay, so Okay, so that's some
good fact checking there, but

1366
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:27,600
then

1367
01:23:27,630 --> 01:23:31,140
attacked. But based on
everything I saw on independent

1368
01:23:31,140 --> 01:23:34,530
investigations I've read since
then, I think the Dutch

1369
01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:37,710
investigators are right. It was
a book fired from separatist

1370
01:23:37,710 --> 01:23:42,030
territory. And because the book
is a pretty complex military

1371
01:23:42,030 --> 01:23:45,870
system, I think it was beyond
the capacity of the separatist

1372
01:23:45,870 --> 01:23:49,500
militia fighters to operate. So
that would make it likely that

1373
01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:53,880
the book was operated by a
trained Russian crew. But Russia

1374
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,090
can't admit that because to
admit that would be to admit

1375
01:23:57,090 --> 01:24:00,360
that Russian officials have been
lying for more than a year about

1376
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:01,680
their involvement in Ukraine.

1377
01:24:01,710 --> 01:24:07,980
It also is not part of the MH 17
Safety Board Report. Nowhere

1378
01:24:07,980 --> 01:24:11,580
does it say that this had to
have been operated by Russians.

1379
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:14,490
That's really bad journalism,
right there.

1380
01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:21,870
Well, depends. Well, he said, if
you listen to what he says the

1381
01:24:21,870 --> 01:24:25,380
government, he's got to get this
message out there. Somebody's

1382
01:24:25,380 --> 01:24:29,730
got to know. Yeah. Not just
speculation,

1383
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,730
but he kind of weaves it into
saying, Well, you know,

1384
01:24:32,730 --> 01:24:33,420
according to the

1385
01:24:34,050 --> 01:24:37,170
data, so it's not speculation.
Exactly, exactly.

1386
01:24:37,710 --> 01:24:39,960
That's douchey it's douchey.

1387
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,230
It's very, very douchey. That's
the whole thing that's going on,

1388
01:24:43,230 --> 01:24:47,190
we're out there, you know, and
now it's getting worse, you

1389
01:24:47,190 --> 01:24:51,780
know, getting going after Putin.
And there's a lot of good stuff

1390
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:53,010
coming out. Well, I

1391
01:24:53,010 --> 01:24:56,580
really liked you know, the the
embarrassment of all

1392
01:24:56,580 --> 01:24:59,970
embarrassments to the United
States and President Obama

1393
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,180
The first foreign visit for
Syrian President Bashar Al Assad

1394
01:25:03,180 --> 01:25:06,810
since the start of the Syrian
crisis in 2011. He came to

1395
01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:10,110
Moscow to personally thank
Russian President Vladimir Putin

1396
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,560
for Moscow's military support in
the war. The meeting comes three

1397
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,530
weeks after Russia launched an
air campaign against Syrian

1398
01:25:16,530 --> 01:25:20,100
insurgents in support of its
Mideast ally. For his part,

1399
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:23,130
Putin said progress on the
military front will make a

1400
01:25:23,130 --> 01:25:25,560
political solution in Syria that
much easier.

1401
01:25:25,890 --> 01:25:29,580
I love these guys. Hey, here I
am over in Moscow didn't see me

1402
01:25:29,580 --> 01:25:31,620
leave. Did you nananananana

1403
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:35,760
Well, this is this the I have
the same report. But at the very

1404
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,410
end of the CBS version using the
three by three Yes. You get this

1405
01:25:40,410 --> 01:25:43,980
little tidbit which I believe is
just bullcrap. But this is the

1406
01:25:43,980 --> 01:25:47,100
CBS Assad visit clueless,
credibly damaged

1407
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:52,260
goods who the US and others say
must go. But he's still Moscow's

1408
01:25:52,260 --> 01:25:56,910
man. And Scott, the clearest
sign that Vladimir Putin has his

1409
01:25:56,910 --> 01:26:00,360
own agenda, and is now a
powerful, independent actor on

1410
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,740
the Syrian issue. No one in the
US government had a clue about

1411
01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:07,950
the Assad Moscow visit until
after it happened.

1412
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:10,050
Mark Phillips in our London
newsroom, Mark,

1413
01:26:10,380 --> 01:26:12,600
no one had a clue until after it
happened.

1414
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:18,660
I don't believe that. I mean,
for one thing, how would you

1415
01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:22,320
know? I mean, half the CIA could
have known about this, or the

1416
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,600
NSA was following all this
stuff, but

1417
01:26:24,599 --> 01:26:27,869
apparently not. I mean, if he
was just flying in the air, why

1418
01:26:27,869 --> 01:26:30,449
don't we shoot him down? He's
not a horrible dictator, who

1419
01:26:30,449 --> 01:26:34,019
uses chemical weapons on his own
people. And why can't the

1420
01:26:34,019 --> 01:26:36,749
President have a sit down with
him? Everybody sits down with

1421
01:26:36,749 --> 01:26:40,469
this guy, Putin, Charlie Rose.
Everybody's hanging out with

1422
01:26:40,469 --> 01:26:45,629
him. Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie.
But the president can't talk to

1423
01:26:45,629 --> 01:26:46,049
the guy.

1424
01:26:46,710 --> 01:26:48,030
Now this whole thing is it

1425
01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:50,970
shows it shows the emperor has
no clothes.

1426
01:26:51,930 --> 01:26:55,830
All right, since we're talking
about Syria and Putin, Putin,

1427
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:02,940
Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.
Putin, I want to go back to the

1428
01:27:02,940 --> 01:27:05,580
network's and we might as well
hear what the official because

1429
01:27:05,610 --> 01:27:07,170
Richard Engel is

1430
01:27:07,170 --> 01:27:10,140
the official guy. That's right.
As the official guy winner, I'm

1431
01:27:10,140 --> 01:27:14,100
a liar who put the put the top
guy the top official guys put

1432
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:16,920
him in version for the
intelligence community as we see

1433
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,410
it. That's right. And this is
the Richard Engel report on

1434
01:27:19,410 --> 01:27:21,990
Putin in Syria. And he brings up
a bunch of points that we've

1435
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:23,910
made, like weeks ago,

1436
01:27:24,150 --> 01:27:27,240
for almost five years now.
Syrian President Assad has

1437
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,150
hunkered down in Damascus while
his country disintegrated,

1438
01:27:30,150 --> 01:27:34,020
hunkered down. So it came as a
surprise today to see pictures

1439
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:37,830
of him in Moscow with Vladimir
Putin. It's been three weeks

1440
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:40,800
since Russia began airstrikes
against Assad's enemies in

1441
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,920
Syria. But his chief foreign
correspondent Richard Engel

1442
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,980
tells us tonight, the meeting in
Moscow was more than just a

1443
01:27:46,980 --> 01:27:47,820
thank you visit.

1444
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:53,040
removed from the Syrian
President Assad made a surprise

1445
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:57,390
visit to Moscow to meet with his
defender you Vladimir Putin. His

1446
01:27:57,390 --> 01:28:01,290
first known trip abroad since
the war began. The power saw

1447
01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:05,250
travelled it was kept secret on
the trip revealed only after he

1448
01:28:05,250 --> 01:28:09,210
was back in Damascus. Russia
seems to want to show the world

1449
01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:13,350
it's a superpower once more,
releasing new footage today of

1450
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:16,800
what it claims are more than 40
airstrikes over Syria in the

1451
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:22,020
past 24 hours a lifeline for
Assad, but Russia may be trying

1452
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:26,850
to broker an end to the conflict
with Putin saying military

1453
01:28:26,850 --> 01:28:30,420
operations will lay the base for
a long term political

1454
01:28:30,420 --> 01:28:35,640
settlement. But after a quarter
million dead can any political

1455
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,930
solution include a Saudi US
officials tell NBC News that

1456
01:28:39,930 --> 01:28:44,460
Putin may be propping up Assad,
only to transition him out

1457
01:28:44,490 --> 01:28:49,260
later? Whatever the master plan
this war also has a fringe

1458
01:28:49,260 --> 01:28:54,060
benefit for Russia, showcasing
the latest weapons, advanced

1459
01:28:54,090 --> 01:28:56,340
cruise missiles, fighter jets,

1460
01:28:56,700 --> 01:28:58,770
Russia is so tied

1461
01:28:59,070 --> 01:29:04,140
every drop of propaganda. state
controlled media brags about

1462
01:29:04,140 --> 01:29:08,280
Russia's military prowess, even
releasing dramatic footage from

1463
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,300
a drone flying low over
battlefields near Damascus. Odin

1464
01:29:12,300 --> 01:29:15,630
has brought Russia to the
frontlines in Syria and wants

1465
01:29:15,630 --> 01:29:19,230
the world to know it. Maybe to
end the war, maybe to sell

1466
01:29:19,230 --> 01:29:22,980
weapons, certainly to gain as
much prestige as possible.

1467
01:29:23,310 --> 01:29:23,820
bluster.

1468
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:30,840
Huh, that's right. Yep, show how
good our stuff works.

1469
01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:33,840
There was one of the think tank
meetings I watched that.

1470
01:29:34,980 --> 01:29:36,930
Sorry, I'm just let's just
launch the Miss Gus

1471
01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:40,800
the fact that this is that Putin
has over the last two years,

1472
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,060
modernised all their weaponry.
And I think they're back in

1473
01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:50,100
business to sell this stuff. And
you have to put it into into use

1474
01:29:50,100 --> 01:29:53,100
to sell it. This is an old trick
that we've known for a long

1475
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:53,400
time.

1476
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,280
That's the best way to show your
stuff works.

1477
01:29:56,459 --> 01:29:59,609
Yeah, it's blowing things up.
It's not getting shot down.

1478
01:30:00,299 --> 01:30:03,929
Meanwhile, you know, I think
we're spot on about Turkey being

1479
01:30:03,929 --> 01:30:07,829
the, the odd man in the middle
or not really odd but having a

1480
01:30:07,829 --> 01:30:13,679
lot of power. Turkey, of course,
as I mentioned previously, will

1481
01:30:13,679 --> 01:30:17,969
be the new conduit for Russian
gas with the Turkish Stream. And

1482
01:30:18,599 --> 01:30:20,999
a little bit of research, I
think, actually, this was Dame

1483
01:30:20,999 --> 01:30:25,049
Angelou sent this to me, we were
looking at Victoria Nuland, also

1484
01:30:25,049 --> 01:30:30,599
known as Nudelman, also known as
Mrs. Kagan, what she's doing in

1485
01:30:30,599 --> 01:30:38,189
the Balkans and now I've got a
full report she was in

1486
01:30:38,189 --> 01:30:43,739
Macedonia. And it looks like
she's organising one of her fate

1487
01:30:43,739 --> 01:30:48,359
and one of her favourite colour
revolutions. In Macedonia,

1488
01:30:48,389 --> 01:30:52,559
Macedonia would be one of the
key links for the Turkish Stream

1489
01:30:52,589 --> 01:31:00,059
gas to flow through Macedonia,
further into into Europe. And so

1490
01:31:00,089 --> 01:31:00,929
it looks like

1491
01:31:00,990 --> 01:31:05,850
I have a rhetorical question.
Why does any country allow that

1492
01:31:05,850 --> 01:31:09,030
woman to travel freely within
their country? She should be

1493
01:31:09,180 --> 01:31:11,520
able to terror terrorist
watchlist.

1494
01:31:12,630 --> 01:31:17,070
I think a country like India,
when you look at Nicola Gretzky,

1495
01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:20,100
he was the Prime Minister, I bet
these guys are afraid, you know,

1496
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:22,860
did they organise a bank run
when they were, you know,

1497
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:27,990
talking some crap here have a
bank run Shut up. Now, Nuland is

1498
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:33,000
powerful man, she's powerful. So
the Turkish Stream pipeline will

1499
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:38,190
be transporting gas from Russia,
to Turkey, Greece, Macedonia,

1500
01:31:38,310 --> 01:31:42,870
Serbia, Hungary, and then into
Central Europe. That's the plan.

1501
01:31:43,710 --> 01:31:47,580
So I think anything is being
done not to mess with Turkey,

1502
01:31:47,580 --> 01:31:51,090
because we're afraid of Turkey,
because they really do hold a

1503
01:31:51,090 --> 01:31:54,210
lot of the cards. But we're
going to mess with all the

1504
01:31:54,210 --> 01:31:57,090
smaller states and look for
something bad to happen in

1505
01:31:57,090 --> 01:31:59,910
Macedonia. And this is what I'll
say.

1506
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,790
That's why they're afraid of
her. She takes no prisoners. And

1507
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:19,200
then of course, we had Mohammed
or the mountain coming to

1508
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,530
Muhammad. It had to happen. We
have a huge problem with the

1509
01:32:22,530 --> 01:32:24,660
migrants woods of 800,000.

1510
01:32:24,660 --> 01:32:27,990
Migrants and refugees are
expected to arrive in Germany

1511
01:32:28,020 --> 01:32:31,890
this year, piling pressure on
the government to act, many

1512
01:32:31,890 --> 01:32:35,400
travel through Turkey, a country
Angular Merkel believes holds

1513
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:36,570
the solution

1514
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,170
on the fiscal side, we can see
that there's a migration flow,

1515
01:32:40,230 --> 01:32:43,350
this flow might increase and
come to the European Union from

1516
01:32:43,350 --> 01:32:46,830
Turkey. And we believe that we
should share turkeys burden and

1517
01:32:46,830 --> 01:32:49,500
support Turkey and help them
tackle this problem.

1518
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,100
But it's what that help is
that's proving controversial.

1519
01:32:53,910 --> 01:32:57,150
Merkel's offer to push forward
turkeys bid for EU membership

1520
01:32:57,150 --> 01:33:01,740
for public criticism from within
her own power base. First chink

1521
01:33:01,740 --> 01:33:05,640
in the armour perhaps made worse
by a slew of weak economic data

1522
01:33:05,730 --> 01:33:09,360
opinion polls in particular
sounding the alarm bell Merkel's

1523
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,900
popularity sliding to its lowest
level in nearly four years.

1524
01:33:13,050 --> 01:33:20,430
So she also offered 3 billion
euros to help. I wonder if if

1525
01:33:20,430 --> 01:33:23,430
all 3 billion goes straight into
aerotow Juan's private account

1526
01:33:23,430 --> 01:33:25,980
or how are they going to work
that out? He probably

1527
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:28,320
Yeah, it does.

1528
01:33:28,380 --> 01:33:32,700
This is so obvious. The turkey
is blackmailing the EU and it's

1529
01:33:32,700 --> 01:33:37,890
bad. I mean, this is this is I
mean, even it hurts me. Now. I'm

1530
01:33:37,890 --> 01:33:41,460
looking at this the video of
these poor slobs and you got

1531
01:33:41,460 --> 01:33:45,690
cops in riot gear, pushing
people back to slipping down the

1532
01:33:45,690 --> 01:33:50,640
mud they're trying to assist.
This is just it's beyond. It's

1533
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,970
beyond horror. And these people
are in English are saying hey,

1534
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,320
you know you have no human
compassion. You have no empathy.

1535
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,790
I thought Europe was gonna be
great Europe sucks balls, sucks

1536
01:34:02,790 --> 01:34:03,390
scenes

1537
01:34:03,390 --> 01:34:07,920
of anguish and despair as 1000s
of migrants gather on Serbia's

1538
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,450
border with Croatia kids

1539
01:34:09,450 --> 01:34:09,990
screaming.

1540
01:34:12,030 --> 01:34:16,560
They are virtually sympathetic.
Stranded, waiting on cold wet

1541
01:34:16,590 --> 01:34:23,250
borders after Hungary closed its
southern frontier. It's an all

1542
01:34:23,250 --> 01:34:26,250
too familiar scene at the
epicentre of the greatest

1543
01:34:26,250 --> 01:34:32,820
migration of people in Europe
since World War Two. The UN HCR

1544
01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:38,010
struggles to hand out rain coats
coordinator, erode Eska Rova

1545
01:34:38,010 --> 01:34:40,380
says they are doing what they
can.

1546
01:34:40,950 --> 01:34:44,130
As you can see, this is a
humanitarian seriously

1547
01:34:44,130 --> 01:34:47,430
humanitarian situation where you
can see if you go to the crowd,

1548
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:51,390
you will see women with children
with disabled people. They are

1549
01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:55,470
all trapped and the border at
the moment remains closed from

1550
01:34:55,470 --> 01:34:56,310
Croatian side.

1551
01:34:56,460 --> 01:35:00,480
The EU has agreed to a plan
resisted by hyung Free and

1552
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,930
several other ex communist
countries to share refugees

1553
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:09,930
among its members. But with
1000s pouring in each day it may

1554
01:35:09,930 --> 01:35:14,850
be a promise but it's hard to
keep leaving scores in a virtual

1555
01:35:14,850 --> 01:35:18,600
No Man's Land offering little
bit hope

1556
01:35:18,660 --> 01:35:22,320
so you know this is all
happening based on what is being

1557
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:27,240
called the second wave that
Turkey let go and I think that

1558
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:32,790
was that was the final straw for
certainly for the Germans but

1559
01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:37,170
everyone the EU can't figure out
what to do and people in these

1560
01:35:37,170 --> 01:35:39,480
individual countries you know,
I'm just reading the Dutch

1561
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:44,070
reports the people are mad
they're freaking out like we

1562
01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:47,670
can't handle this we can't have
this many immigrants we don't

1563
01:35:47,670 --> 01:35:51,030
know what to do we have high
unemployment as is they're all

1564
01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:53,310
getting money and shelter and
then you know, they're taking

1565
01:35:53,310 --> 01:36:01,170
away our resources that to me
you look at it this world war

1566
01:36:01,170 --> 01:36:04,650
three is perhaps already being
fought. It's just not going to

1567
01:36:04,650 --> 01:36:07,290
be done with cannons and stuff
and yeah, some people will live

1568
01:36:07,290 --> 01:36:10,530
in the sand you know, screw them
you know, they'll they'll get

1569
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:16,650
messed up but I mean, I don't
think this is epic. This is

1570
01:36:16,650 --> 01:36:21,390
really truly of epic proportion
of what's happening. And and

1571
01:36:21,390 --> 01:36:24,810
this is going to fast track
turkey into the EU they'll

1572
01:36:24,810 --> 01:36:28,650
probably get I presume that's
all that can happen is here's 3

1573
01:36:28,650 --> 01:36:32,640
billion euros Thank you. And
we'll maybe it's another three

1574
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:37,290
into your own private account
everyone is corrupt. And please

1575
01:36:37,290 --> 01:36:41,910
stop don't let a third wave
happen it's not it's the optics

1576
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:46,080
are going to be pretty bad for
the worse. Yeah, they're gonna

1577
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,590
be pretty bad. Yeah, this is I
don't understand why this isn't

1578
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:53,580
the number one news number one
this is Sweden says they're

1579
01:36:53,580 --> 01:36:59,130
close to collapsing. They said
there's no way there will be no

1580
01:36:59,130 --> 01:37:02,340
more Swedish people in Sweden.
Stop them

1581
01:37:04,050 --> 01:37:06,750
well, Sweden is the one they've
all I mean, the Swedish

1582
01:37:06,750 --> 01:37:10,740
government is all in on all this
stuff out there started was like

1583
01:37:10,740 --> 01:37:12,870
come on. Come on down.

1584
01:37:12,900 --> 01:37:16,140
Yeah, but now they're actually
Sweden. The Swedish government

1585
01:37:16,140 --> 01:37:19,680
is borrowing money to be able to
afford the emit the immigrants

1586
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:24,870
coming in. Which I'd found
peculiar, but I'm just reading

1587
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:25,620
the reporting.

1588
01:37:26,850 --> 01:37:29,970
Now this is the number one thing
going on in the world that is

1589
01:37:29,970 --> 01:37:34,620
going to destabilise the whole
is going to destabilise the EU

1590
01:37:34,620 --> 01:37:38,190
and when the EU gets
destabilised, bad things happen.

1591
01:37:38,190 --> 01:37:38,850
Very bad

1592
01:37:38,850 --> 01:37:39,630
things happen.

1593
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:45,510
We'll see what happens. I don't
see if I was one of these

1594
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:50,100
immigrant folks. I would like to
know. I mean, this is a story

1595
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:52,110
that's not told them. We have
Richard Engel. We're all walking

1596
01:37:52,110 --> 01:37:54,570
around with these people as they
walk and walk and walk their

1597
01:37:54,570 --> 01:37:59,820
walk a lot. That never gets
explained adequately to me. A

1598
01:37:59,820 --> 01:38:03,480
couple of things. One, you're in
a refugee camp to begin with.

1599
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:07,470
Yeah, on the border of Syria and
Turkey or someplace. There's a

1600
01:38:07,470 --> 01:38:09,630
bunch of them. They're all
surrounded, they surrender in

1601
01:38:09,930 --> 01:38:13,200
Lebanon, they're everywhere. And
you're in these and they have

1602
01:38:13,230 --> 01:38:15,900
I've seen some reports where
people go into the camps and

1603
01:38:15,900 --> 01:38:19,740
look around the little stores
have been set up. It's like a

1604
01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:21,120
little small

1605
01:38:22,170 --> 01:38:26,820
tent town, and they all have
electronic debit cards. Yeah,

1606
01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:26,940
they

1607
01:38:26,940 --> 01:38:33,270
got these cards is literally a
functioning horrible city, right

1608
01:38:33,300 --> 01:38:39,450
of, I guess a best slave Wait,
it was? Well, there's no slaves

1609
01:38:39,450 --> 01:38:42,540
because they got nothing to do,
right? It's, it's like favelas

1610
01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:44,700
in Brazil. They have all these,

1611
01:38:45,330 --> 01:38:47,940
the crappy slums, the slums,

1612
01:38:47,940 --> 01:38:51,840
slums, sloths, it's the slums
made out of tents of is similar

1613
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,470
to what's going on in Haiti. So
you're in those slums made out

1614
01:38:55,470 --> 01:38:59,130
of tents. You have a choice, you
could stay there, and I'm sure

1615
01:38:59,130 --> 01:39:01,590
there's a lot of crime and other
weird things that go on and make

1616
01:39:01,590 --> 01:39:06,870
it miserable. You can stay there
and wait it out. And things do

1617
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:09,990
stabilise eventually. Yeah. So
you can stay there and wait it

1618
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:15,810
out. Or, or you can be told,
Hey, there's some great show

1619
01:39:15,810 --> 01:39:19,590
that Europeans are going to
welcome us with open arms like

1620
01:39:19,620 --> 01:39:21,150
we were supposed to be. And

1621
01:39:21,150 --> 01:39:24,210
it's possible that people are
handed an envelope with Okay,

1622
01:39:24,210 --> 01:39:27,750
here's 1000 euros. Go,

1623
01:39:28,349 --> 01:39:31,919
that could be that. And there,
we do know that there's already

1624
01:39:31,919 --> 01:39:35,369
books and maps and things that
they give out to these people so

1625
01:39:35,369 --> 01:39:38,489
they know which route to take
and what road to take and how to

1626
01:39:38,489 --> 01:39:39,299
get from here to

1627
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:42,570
and these people are walking
across Europe, John, they're

1628
01:39:42,570 --> 01:39:44,250
walking across Europe

1629
01:39:44,490 --> 01:39:46,860
to start shaking, walking,
walking.

1630
01:39:48,090 --> 01:39:50,460
Yeah, from time to time, they
get thrown into a bus and they

1631
01:39:50,460 --> 01:39:52,380
get shipped off somewhere.

1632
01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:55,710
And then they gotta walk after
they get out. But did you

1633
01:39:55,710 --> 01:39:59,610
see the tent camps on fire? Like
burning? Like did you know that

1634
01:39:59,610 --> 01:39:59,970
Oh,

1635
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,950
Oops that one yeah. Oh my god.
It's just a joke. And it's being

1636
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:11,490
you know, we of course I were
largely responsible and you have

1637
01:40:11,490 --> 01:40:14,460
to wonder whether we did it on
purpose or not ours. The no

1638
01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:18,270
agenda, thought with the noodle
mins and the people like that.

1639
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:24,180
Our thought is Yeah, fuck the EU
screw. Yeah. Because if she says

1640
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,310
when she says that she means it,

1641
01:40:26,519 --> 01:40:29,819
but the question is, are we in
cahoots with Turkey? Is Turkey

1642
01:40:29,819 --> 01:40:32,999
in cahoots with Russia is Turkey
just as are we afraid of Turkey?

1643
01:40:33,269 --> 01:40:34,949
No, we're never we're not afraid
of anybody.

1644
01:40:36,690 --> 01:40:39,420
Well, I don't think we're
handling the situation very

1645
01:40:39,420 --> 01:40:39,810
well.

1646
01:40:40,469 --> 01:40:43,079
i You don't know that we're not
handling exactly the way we

1647
01:40:43,079 --> 01:40:43,439
wanted to.

1648
01:40:43,559 --> 01:40:47,249
Oh, this is a good point. This
is a good point. But it really

1649
01:40:47,249 --> 01:40:47,789
just made

1650
01:40:47,790 --> 01:40:51,930
for all we know. Okay, well,
it's all going along to plan.

1651
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,900
Okay, so let's let's take that
stance for a moment. We're

1652
01:40:54,900 --> 01:40:58,620
responsible, it's all going
along to plan. Then the EU

1653
01:40:58,650 --> 01:41:00,390
counter strikes with this landed

1654
01:41:00,390 --> 01:41:04,320
with a hefty new tax bill for 20
to 30 million euros. It wasn't

1655
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,770
exactly a cappuccino moment for
Starbucks. That's the amount of

1656
01:41:07,770 --> 01:41:10,800
Netherlands has been ordered to
recover and back taxes from the

1657
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:14,100
coffee shop chain, a similar
amount by Luxembourg from feared

1658
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:17,670
Chrysler, those countries giving
those companies special tax

1659
01:41:17,670 --> 01:41:20,190
arrangements or rulings.
According to European

1660
01:41:20,190 --> 01:41:22,680
competition Commissioner
Margrethe Vestager.

1661
01:41:23,070 --> 01:41:26,970
The tax rulings have
artificially reduced the tax

1662
01:41:26,970 --> 01:41:33,210
burden of both companies. And
this is illegal under EU state

1663
01:41:33,210 --> 01:41:38,490
aid rules. Last year feared
finance and trades paid not even

1664
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:44,310
0.4 million in corporate tax.
And Starbuck manufacturing paid

1665
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:47,880
not even 0.6 million in tax

1666
01:41:48,299 --> 01:41:52,079
fear to deny receiving any state
aid Starbuck says it will

1667
01:41:52,079 --> 01:41:55,319
appeal. Luxembourg disagrees.
Well, the Netherlands says it's

1668
01:41:55,319 --> 01:41:58,739
surprised at the ruling. Amazon
and Apple are among other

1669
01:41:58,739 --> 01:42:01,709
companies in the Commission's
crosshairs, though vestre just

1670
01:42:01,709 --> 01:42:04,649
said those cases are different.
While also warning the

1671
01:42:04,649 --> 01:42:08,399
commission would not stop here.
One tax advisor who spoke to

1672
01:42:08,399 --> 01:42:11,669
Reuters agreed the ruling he
said would rock the corporate

1673
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:12,989
world to its very

1674
01:42:13,019 --> 01:42:17,129
core. So it seems like there's a
little retaliation going on.

1675
01:42:17,129 --> 01:42:18,929
Really? You're going to be like
that. Well why don't we just

1676
01:42:18,929 --> 01:42:22,439
screw all your companies where
they're the Irish Dutch? Reach

1677
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:27,929
around? Yep, taxation ski a
scam. Now the Netherlands time

1678
01:42:27,929 --> 01:42:30,839
they did that? Yeah. Well, this
is just small because you know,

1679
01:42:30,869 --> 01:42:33,509
Google and Apple and Yahoo and
all those guys. That's the big

1680
01:42:33,509 --> 01:42:37,319
money, Starbucks and then
nothing to be sneezed at. And

1681
01:42:37,349 --> 01:42:42,629
was it also Facebook? I think,
Facebook, UK, they paid 300,000

1682
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:48,929
pounds in taxes last year. It's
crate. So it'll make maybe this

1683
01:42:48,929 --> 01:42:54,809
is all on wars, just an economic
war. It's certainly not very

1684
01:42:54,809 --> 01:42:55,619
nice of them to do

1685
01:42:55,620 --> 01:42:57,690
that. The way it should go
working. We're winning.

1686
01:42:58,710 --> 01:42:59,940
That's all that matters. I

1687
01:42:59,940 --> 01:43:04,980
guess. The two Yeah. That's
exactly right. That's all that

1688
01:43:04,980 --> 01:43:10,140
matters. We're winning. We're
winning. Great. Competitive. No.

1689
01:43:10,860 --> 01:43:12,990
All right. Enough of that.
Sorry, I

1690
01:43:12,990 --> 01:43:14,010
was coughing off air.

1691
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:21,960
I've been looking at some more
looking for more. As I wrote in

1692
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,500
the last newsletter, I did a lot
of stuff on or bitched about

1693
01:43:25,500 --> 01:43:29,610
native advertising, which is now
i i have to say it's completely

1694
01:43:29,610 --> 01:43:34,530
out of control. It's just, it's
everywhere now. And I'm now

1695
01:43:34,530 --> 01:43:38,580
making the assertion that all
news will be except our news and

1696
01:43:38,580 --> 01:43:43,110
other people that do not need
this huge amount of advertising

1697
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:48,330
income. These overstaffed
newspapers that went online. And

1698
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,870
what we're seeing is outfits
like vice, which is a native

1699
01:43:51,870 --> 01:43:53,130
advertising company, the

1700
01:43:53,130 --> 01:43:56,460
only guy that got a letter from
our producers whose friend

1701
01:43:56,460 --> 01:44:02,760
worked advice. And the producer
says that he was told that vice

1702
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:08,790
is really an ad agency. Yeah,
yeah. And when you read this,

1703
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:12,930
and so a friend of mine, some of
the things that I afterwards I

1704
01:44:13,140 --> 01:44:17,790
was looking at the native
advertising

1705
01:44:17,820 --> 01:44:22,650
Institute. Yes, I ordered my
free book. Yes, you have to.

1706
01:44:23,010 --> 01:44:24,240
Yes, thank you. I appreciate.

1707
01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:31,290
So on the first page of one of
their pages is this friend of

1708
01:44:31,290 --> 01:44:34,830
mine who used to be editor at PC
Magazine, she went to work for

1709
01:44:34,860 --> 01:44:38,220
fortune, and then she she'd been
floating around, and then she

1710
01:44:38,220 --> 01:44:41,700
worked for Dell as part of the
branding team or something. And

1711
01:44:41,700 --> 01:44:46,110
then she got this job as at
Politico. And so I sent her a

1712
01:44:46,110 --> 01:44:48,240
nasty note, which it looks like

1713
01:44:48,330 --> 01:44:50,880
wait a minute, you sent your
friend a nasty note. What did

1714
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,520
you say chiding her? What did
you say?

1715
01:44:53,670 --> 01:44:56,130
You're the I said you should do?
You should milk this you should

1716
01:44:56,130 --> 01:45:00,360
become the queen of native
advertising and she It

1717
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,430
has got a needle in her eye
aren't you?

1718
01:45:02,700 --> 01:45:06,120
Well, so she's she went to work
at politico and there's a big

1719
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,730
article about her on in
advertising agent I wanted to

1720
01:45:08,730 --> 01:45:12,630
read a paragraph from that just
to show how pervasive this

1721
01:45:12,630 --> 01:45:15,060
Now she works now with the
native advertising Institute

1722
01:45:15,480 --> 01:45:17,880
know she works for Politico
political now

1723
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,890
okay as the as the chief guide
to the native advertising

1724
01:45:22,890 --> 01:45:27,210
department chief labels gonna
native officer. She's the Yeah.

1725
01:45:28,050 --> 01:45:31,590
So she's going to be the the
political is going to have a lot

1726
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:35,220
of native as like everybody
else. But in the there was some

1727
01:45:35,220 --> 01:45:38,670
editorialising in the Ad Age
article, and I want to mention

1728
01:45:38,670 --> 01:45:43,020
this, and then discuss it for a
second politico, it says may

1729
01:45:43,020 --> 01:45:47,670
find itself already late to the
game of native advertising late

1730
01:45:47,670 --> 01:45:51,630
to the game, though it began
selling so called native ads,

1731
01:45:51,630 --> 01:45:54,720
that is ads that resemble
editorial content three years

1732
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:59,130
ago, the site was relying on the
advertiser to produce the

1733
01:45:59,130 --> 01:46:04,020
content Oh, what a mistake.
Meanwhile, it's Capitol here

1734
01:46:04,050 --> 01:46:08,520
he'll competitors like the
Washington Post, and The

1735
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:13,440
Atlantic have carved out
departments to make articles

1736
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:18,150
themselves and videos themselves
for the advertisers. Nice. This

1737
01:46:18,150 --> 01:46:23,730
is nice. Nice to hear. It said
that Mr. This other guy guess

1738
01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:27,300
was the boss who said political
will set itself apart by

1739
01:46:27,300 --> 01:46:31,080
applying its style of journalism
and relentless focus on beltway

1740
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:36,420
influencers and policymakers to
branded content. We didn't want

1741
01:46:36,420 --> 01:46:40,230
to rush into it. He said in the
hiring of Miss Losi gives the

1742
01:46:40,230 --> 01:46:43,710
company a holistic perspective
on the industry, one that

1743
01:46:43,710 --> 01:46:49,140
includes time inside a big brand
he goes on. And so here's what's

1744
01:46:49,140 --> 01:46:51,870
been going on. And we've been
following this for a couple of

1745
01:46:51,870 --> 01:46:56,490
years now and it's getting
worse. But what's what's funny

1746
01:46:56,490 --> 01:47:00,000
to me is that the advertisers
are at the point now where

1747
01:47:00,060 --> 01:47:03,660
initially they had to produce
the content, which means they

1748
01:47:03,660 --> 01:47:09,540
had to go hire somebody to write
an article and they are not in

1749
01:47:09,540 --> 01:47:12,450
the business, you know that they
all they've got is they've

1750
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:16,050
priced like a product and a
product and then they have an

1751
01:47:16,050 --> 01:47:18,810
advertising agency. They asked
the advertising agency to write

1752
01:47:18,810 --> 01:47:22,740
an article but advertising
agencies are people buy

1753
01:47:22,740 --> 01:47:26,670
copywriters and copywriting
techniques are alien to

1754
01:47:26,670 --> 01:47:27,660
reporting techniques.

1755
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:31,530
It requires a new type of Beast
a new type of other kind of

1756
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:35,040
article you need. And so they
had to go find a freelancer and

1757
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,940
have the Freelancer doing most
freelance and most, most honest

1758
01:47:38,940 --> 01:47:42,570
writers don't like doing these
gigs unless they really pay well

1759
01:47:42,570 --> 01:47:45,390
then they love them. Yeah, and
then do it under a pseudonym.

1760
01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:48,120
And you can use a pseudo name.
So you just write this great. P

1761
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,120
So what I would do a write a
great piece, you get paid two,

1762
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:55,110
three bucks a word, which is
compromise. Really? Yeah. Oh,

1763
01:47:55,110 --> 01:47:56,640
yeah. Yeah, for a good piece.

1764
01:47:57,780 --> 01:47:59,100
Okay, noted.

1765
01:48:00,210 --> 01:48:03,120
And you get them, they take the
thing, and then they run it. And

1766
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,830
they can run in different
places. Or they can do whatever

1767
01:48:04,830 --> 01:48:08,610
they want with it. But then it
runs as an article in the

1768
01:48:09,180 --> 01:48:14,520
magazine or newspaper. Now the
advertisers are getting, why are

1769
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:18,360
we doing this? Because the I can
imagine the rationale. I'm

1770
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,150
thinking to myself, if I'm going
to play something in the

1771
01:48:21,150 --> 01:48:23,970
Washington Post, or the New York
Times, I'd rather have a

1772
01:48:23,970 --> 01:48:27,990
Washington Post reporter write
it. So it really sounds like it

1773
01:48:27,990 --> 01:48:29,940
belongs there. Yeah. And

1774
01:48:29,970 --> 01:48:33,090
preferably with a byline from a
post writer.

1775
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:37,200
Right. You're gonna have more
trouble getting that. But I

1776
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,230
think that's just the that's the
next day coming. That's coming.

1777
01:48:40,230 --> 01:48:43,140
Yeah, right. Now, you can't do
that. You can't get the writers

1778
01:48:43,140 --> 01:48:46,650
because the newspaper guys are
still up at a bar are.

1779
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:49,620
They're not hungry enough yet.
Don't worry it okay. Yeah,

1780
01:48:49,620 --> 01:48:51,330
they get when they start
starving to death and they're

1781
01:48:51,330 --> 01:48:54,960
hungry, then the whole newspaper
will be a native as because why

1782
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,120
would you do a story about
anything. This is

1783
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:00,360
a perfect storm with blog
pocalypse, where, you know,

1784
01:49:00,420 --> 01:49:04,920
there's almost no value now in
display ads on websites.

1785
01:49:05,550 --> 01:49:09,150
You know, and I might think that
the native advertising business,

1786
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,330
like the native advertising
Institute, and all these

1787
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,690
different, oh, there's a it
could be a club of these guys,

1788
01:49:15,690 --> 01:49:18,000
because there's all these
different processes that you can

1789
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:22,800
do this would get together
themselves, and they themselves

1790
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:26,700
would create and promote ad
blockers. Oh, yeah, of course,

1791
01:49:26,730 --> 01:49:30,690
that gives the build their
lockers and term block pocalypse

1792
01:49:31,650 --> 01:49:35,280
sounds very much like something
an advertising agency would come

1793
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:39,330
up with to promote something.
Yeah. So you start promoting the

1794
01:49:39,330 --> 01:49:42,360
SW kill the normal advertising
methodology mind

1795
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:46,110
and mind you were the biggest
ad, isn't it? Who does Apple's

1796
01:49:46,110 --> 01:49:47,850
ads is so Ogilvy or is it

1797
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:51,360
though? wage bill was

1798
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:55,440
Omnicom I guess DDB Needham, I
think could be

1799
01:49:55,470 --> 01:49:59,460
Yeah. They don't use the super
creative guys as much as they

1800
01:49:59,460 --> 01:50:00,630
used to know They

1801
01:50:00,630 --> 01:50:02,430
would certainly be able to help
them.

1802
01:50:04,170 --> 01:50:08,400
They're in on the native
average. So all advertising is

1803
01:50:08,580 --> 01:50:11,520
trending toward this. And I
think most content and a lot of

1804
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,810
these magazines, because there's
no people. In the olden days,

1805
01:50:15,810 --> 01:50:18,270
I've talked this over with some
people in the olden days, when

1806
01:50:18,270 --> 01:50:22,290
you could do an editorial style,
you could write an article and

1807
01:50:22,290 --> 01:50:24,900
have it placed in not so much
the New York Times, so they

1808
01:50:24,900 --> 01:50:27,150
wouldn't do it, although they do
it. Now. They wouldn't do it.

1809
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:30,180
But the local paper, they'll
bite, you know, but you had to

1810
01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:33,330
do two things. One, you had to
put advertising advertising

1811
01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:37,440
advertising across the top. So
it's clear to the reader that

1812
01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:42,570
this was an advertisement
they're reading, and the fonts,

1813
01:50:42,630 --> 01:50:47,880
and the style had to be
different than the paper. So

1814
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,340
you'd have to have a different
like, in the New York Times, if

1815
01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:52,590
it was in the New York Times,
you couldn't use Times Roman,

1816
01:50:52,590 --> 01:50:54,750
and you couldn't use our
headline, font, whatever it is,

1817
01:50:54,750 --> 01:50:57,750
that has been thrown out the
window that's out that's done

1818
01:50:57,750 --> 01:51:00,810
and the end, you don't even have
to put advertising advertising

1819
01:51:00,810 --> 01:51:03,390
across the top, you could put
this right into the flow of

1820
01:51:03,390 --> 01:51:06,420
things. And you can put at the
end, you know, this is a

1821
01:51:06,420 --> 01:51:09,690
sponsored article or something
like that. And that's good

1822
01:51:09,690 --> 01:51:14,790
enough. And so the whole church
and state thing that they always

1823
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:19,350
like to brag about, it's all
gone. The corruption is it's

1824
01:51:19,350 --> 01:51:22,950
taken over and nobody is
complaining about it. Because if

1825
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:25,410
the New York Times is doing it,
and the Washington Post, and

1826
01:51:25,410 --> 01:51:28,350
everybody can do it, then it's
fair game. Yeah, that means

1827
01:51:28,350 --> 01:51:31,590
everyone can do it, because
those are the leaders. And in

1828
01:51:31,590 --> 01:51:35,250
fact, everyone is doing it and
why if you're owning the place,

1829
01:51:35,250 --> 01:51:37,980
I'm owning the place a
newspaper, I'm thinking, we just

1830
01:51:37,980 --> 01:51:42,420
did an article on the new
McDonald's something or other

1831
01:51:42,420 --> 01:51:44,310
why are we even doing this
article? Unless they're paying

1832
01:51:44,310 --> 01:51:47,940
us? I would that would be my
rationale for everything. Why

1833
01:51:47,940 --> 01:51:52,230
are we doing this article unless
they're paying us? So everything

1834
01:51:52,230 --> 01:51:56,190
is? Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah,
there'll be some weather report

1835
01:51:56,190 --> 01:51:58,830
that you can't find anybody give
me any money for maybe get some

1836
01:51:58,830 --> 01:52:03,450
global warming guy. You help me
out? Sponsored by the Global

1837
01:52:03,450 --> 01:52:06,540
Warming committee. Here's
today's weather. You know, you

1838
01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:11,910
had a sunny and fair, it's going
to get worse. Yeah. It's a

1839
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:15,180
horrible situation. And people
should appreciate it, that we

1840
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:19,530
are not playing that game,
because we are sponsored by the

1841
01:52:19,890 --> 01:52:22,290
people that listen and produce
the show. Yeah,

1842
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:27,480
it's a it's baffling to me.
Well, for ya know, it actually

1843
01:52:27,480 --> 01:52:31,110
is not baffling. You're not
going to see the the journalists

1844
01:52:31,110 --> 01:52:32,940
are not going to be talking
about this themselves. I don't

1845
01:52:32,940 --> 01:52:35,520
think there's going to be a lot
of articles. Can't native

1846
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:36,570
advertising. Yeah,

1847
01:52:36,690 --> 01:52:39,330
yeah. Well, here, let's look at
some of the native. So

1848
01:52:39,570 --> 01:52:42,030
it's the disconnect. What's
interesting is the disconnect is

1849
01:52:42,030 --> 01:52:45,540
you have Silicon Valley in one
hand, talking about, you know,

1850
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,090
acceptable ads, how we're going
to make it all work. And this,

1851
01:52:48,090 --> 01:52:51,300
by the way, is horrible for
Google is horrible for them.

1852
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:57,060
This is not what they want. They
want you know, to to have, you

1853
01:52:57,060 --> 01:53:01,320
know, the search results be the
ad, you know, the have the ads

1854
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,480
and all the places the right
places at the right time. That's

1855
01:53:03,480 --> 01:53:05,580
the big promise. They still
haven't really reached it. But

1856
01:53:05,850 --> 01:53:07,350
that's really their business.

1857
01:53:07,470 --> 01:53:11,760
Yeah. And I think that's why
Google saw a panic and they

1858
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,610
start all these other businesses
away out because

1859
01:53:14,610 --> 01:53:18,120
it's it is going to end it won't
be tomorrow, you know, let's

1860
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,540
look at 10 years out it may or
may have may have weakened

1861
01:53:21,540 --> 01:53:22,110
somewhat.

1862
01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:25,440
I mean, but now we're getting
situations I want to play this

1863
01:53:25,440 --> 01:53:28,830
clip. This is the national
anthem clip. And everyone knows

1864
01:53:28,830 --> 01:53:31,170
that like moan and groan about
sporting events playing the

1865
01:53:31,170 --> 01:53:33,570
national anthem because they're
not military event.

1866
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,090
We already know what this is.
This is native advertising.

1867
01:53:36,510 --> 01:53:40,290
Well, this is this takes us this
is not as the native advertising

1868
01:53:40,290 --> 01:53:43,650
you think but this is the Monday
night football game. This is the

1869
01:53:43,650 --> 01:53:46,650
end of the national anthem and
just let it play out you'll see

1870
01:53:46,650 --> 01:54:10,080
what I'm talking about. Coverage
of

1871
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:13,500
tonight's national anthem is
presented by USAA the official

1872
01:54:13,500 --> 01:54:18,510
military appreciation sponsor of
the NFL for the elite in the NFC

1873
01:54:18,930 --> 01:54:21,600
the giants in the next be all
that you

1874
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:23,220
can be gotta love it.

1875
01:54:23,820 --> 01:54:28,860
So they commercial for this
military as fantrax company

1876
01:54:28,890 --> 01:54:32,640
Yeah, this fan has just stunned
by that, but not as much as this

1877
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:35,880
one. Now this is the big I'm
gonna play the beginning of

1878
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:40,380
this. And then the end that this
this isn't. This isn't the three

1879
01:54:40,380 --> 01:54:44,430
by threes. This is CBS out of
the blue. They decided to play

1880
01:54:44,430 --> 01:54:49,290
this long feature on retirement
and it's actually kind of

1881
01:54:49,620 --> 01:54:53,190
interesting. And the first part
of is, and it goes on and on. So

1882
01:54:53,190 --> 01:54:57,000
there's like 6789 10 minutes,
but I only have a little bit

1883
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:00,300
from the beginning but play CBS
on retirement pray Lou Good

1884
01:55:00,900 --> 01:55:05,370
travel. Allison, by the way says
that new college what I was

1885
01:55:05,370 --> 01:55:07,470
gonna say there's a little I
want to set this one bit up

1886
01:55:07,470 --> 01:55:09,840
because you can hear this in
there. There's this woman she

1887
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,480
says which actually play it now
tell you afterwards sorry.

1888
01:55:13,020 --> 01:55:16,830
A new study says that new
college graduates won't be able

1889
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:22,290
to retire until they are 75
average student loan debt

1890
01:55:22,290 --> 01:55:26,910
is a happy future kids are
$35,000.

1891
01:55:26,910 --> 01:55:30,990
And that's up more than 5000
from just three years ago. Their

1892
01:55:30,990 --> 01:55:34,920
financial problems are also
forcing their parents to delay

1893
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:38,640
retirement. And Anthony Mason
has tonight's eye on money.

1894
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:43,170
This area has pretty much always
been home. Stephen Beth Bureau

1895
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,920
both grew up in the Chicago
area. And we're hoping to retire

1896
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,670
here soon. But then the youngest
of their three daughters went

1897
01:55:50,670 --> 01:55:51,750
off to college,

1898
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,850
when we started realising a
little one was going to be going

1899
01:55:53,850 --> 01:55:57,210
away to school. We knew was
going to be delayed. I don't see

1900
01:55:57,210 --> 01:55:58,290
it before 70.

1901
01:55:58,770 --> 01:56:03,720
At least that's probably not
what you planned. No, no, what

1902
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:08,370
we see Steve is a 58 year old
packaging designer Beth who's 56

1903
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:09,900
works in a medical clinics.

1904
01:56:10,230 --> 01:56:13,530
I thought when I got a little
bit older that we could travel

1905
01:56:13,530 --> 01:56:17,130
or we could do other things. But
right now all I'm looking at is

1906
01:56:17,130 --> 01:56:18,900
working and making money.

1907
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,620
That's right slave, you do not
pass go.

1908
01:56:22,860 --> 01:56:29,010
I just have to editorialise a
little bit here. This is again,

1909
01:56:29,010 --> 01:56:32,490
it's like John's advice. If you
want to travel you know you're

1910
01:56:32,490 --> 01:56:36,360
looking forward to travelling,
travel, just travel when you're

1911
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:40,050
young. When you just get out of
college or just out of high

1912
01:56:40,050 --> 01:56:44,430
school, don't try it don't plan
on spending your whole life. So

1913
01:56:44,430 --> 01:56:46,530
you're an old fart travelling.

1914
01:56:46,890 --> 01:56:50,940
This is holding up the lines I
might add a feeling of traffic

1915
01:56:50,940 --> 01:56:51,930
with your blinker I

1916
01:56:51,930 --> 01:56:55,170
get those tour buses it is no
fun to travel when you're older.

1917
01:56:55,170 --> 01:56:57,630
Go Travel when you're in your
20s that's when you want to

1918
01:56:57,630 --> 01:57:00,240
travel you meet people you're
gonna have affairs on the road

1919
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,090
is all kinds of cool stuff that
goes on. None of it when you're

1920
01:57:03,090 --> 01:57:05,430
older. Travelling you and your
travel from

1921
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:08,880
Turkey to Germany, it's a great
trip. Lots of people are doing

1922
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,820
it. It's fun to see the
countryside.

1923
01:57:11,850 --> 01:57:15,270
So this retirement does thing
continues and continues and here

1924
01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:17,910
we get to the end which is the
we're all of a sudden you

1925
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:21,720
realise what they're up to. When
they get to the end. This is the

1926
01:57:21,870 --> 01:57:24,270
after retirement segment that
most

1927
01:57:24,270 --> 01:57:28,080
of all, Scott financial planners
say put something aside. And

1928
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:31,380
remember, a late start is better
than no start

1929
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:34,860
at all. Anthony Mason, thanks
very much and we'll be right

1930
01:57:34,860 --> 01:57:35,370
back.

1931
01:57:36,780 --> 01:57:40,590
Tonight's ion money segment is
sponsored by Voya financial,

1932
01:57:40,770 --> 01:57:42,660
changing the way you think of
retirement.

1933
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,950
And they go right into a
commercial for this.

1934
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:52,470
Yeah, Shameless, Shameless. The
only thing that you'd notice was

1935
01:57:52,470 --> 01:57:55,200
you know what most people don't
notice. That's the sad part.

1936
01:57:55,230 --> 01:57:59,160
Unbelievable. I saw this My jaw
dropped. It's like how are you

1937
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:04,590
kidding me? You? And I respect
the CBS News but no, no, no.

1938
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:08,490
Well, that just goes to show
that even though we not perfect,

1939
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,270
we try very hard and it is your
support that makes all this come

1940
01:58:12,270 --> 01:58:12,720
together.

1941
01:58:13,140 --> 01:58:16,590
I'm going to show my school but
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

1942
01:58:16,590 --> 01:58:19,140
the people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun.

1943
01:58:26,610 --> 01:58:30,930
We do some people to thank for
show 767 named after the jet

1944
01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:36,990
starting with Andrew Brown 12345
out of London, Ontario, Canada.

1945
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:43,020
He's got a little note here on
something. As proud supporter

1946
01:58:43,020 --> 01:58:47,760
the podcast started show 590 And
he's talking about mac and

1947
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:54,480
cheese. Now we'll read that
later. Joseph Saigon in San

1948
01:58:54,480 --> 01:59:02,010
Antonio, Texas. Is a dude named
Ben Bellini, a certification

1949
01:59:02,130 --> 01:59:06,060
exam check karma puts them in
the end for you. Then Dan

1950
01:59:06,060 --> 01:59:10,290
Borowsky from Spokane Valley
12345 Unfortunately, we have to

1951
01:59:10,290 --> 01:59:15,630
stop the show for a little bit
here. Show broski is actually

1952
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:20,760
only a member of the United
Federation of Planets Oh

1953
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:24,000
Starfleet fleet command and so
when he sends us a note it's on

1954
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:28,020
that letterhead official obliged
to read it. Yes. In the morning.

1955
01:59:28,380 --> 01:59:32,970
I'm now up to no agenda episode
200.5 In my sacred quest to

1956
01:59:32,970 --> 01:59:38,190
listen to all previous episodes
my advice Don't do it.

1957
01:59:38,970 --> 01:59:41,040
Skip ahead man skip ahead.

1958
01:59:41,070 --> 01:59:43,920
It's always you know, we repeat
ourselves just enough to keep

1959
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,980
you current you there's nothing
there's

1960
01:59:46,980 --> 01:59:49,470
no benefit we don't see a
benefit but people like doing a

1961
01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:52,440
job they they like catching up
and that's why you can't you

1962
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:54,870
just you know why fight when
people want to do

1963
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:58,920
okay now here. This is why we're
I'm reading this note. He says

1964
01:59:59,340 --> 02:00:02,700
the You there's a lot of there's
more than a little thought we

1965
02:00:02,700 --> 02:00:06,450
have to remind people is more
than a little thought to how we

1966
02:00:06,450 --> 02:00:11,070
do the show what we do why we do
it and what we use as jingles

1967
02:00:11,070 --> 02:00:14,670
what we don't use what we talk
about. We have a meeting after

1968
02:00:14,670 --> 02:00:19,290
the show it's only meaning we
ever have it's it's the post

1969
02:00:19,290 --> 02:00:23,460
mortem is called and we discuss
things like this because I have

1970
02:00:23,460 --> 02:00:29,100
not heard for the last year and
a half the we told you so on no

1971
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:33,060
agenda. So good jingle like this
should be brought back he says

1972
02:00:33,660 --> 02:00:37,890
okay, so this was during the
period that JC was doing the

1973
02:00:37,890 --> 02:00:42,930
books and he researched and
research a lot of stuff on what

1974
02:00:42,930 --> 02:00:43,110
we

1975
02:00:43,110 --> 02:00:47,010
do. Would you like to hear it
just as a as a nostalgic sounds?

1976
02:00:47,010 --> 02:00:47,130
We

1977
02:00:47,130 --> 02:00:53,820
can play it play it plays. Now,
that wasn't the one. Yeah, I

1978
02:00:53,820 --> 02:00:57,480
think that's a newer version.
The older one was that annoying

1979
02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:08,310
we tolerate? That's the one we
did. Research indicates research

1980
02:01:08,700 --> 02:01:13,470
that, that doing that thing and
constantly and constantly using

1981
02:01:13,470 --> 02:01:18,720
it because we could play we told
you so all show, right? is

1982
02:01:18,750 --> 02:01:22,740
apparently bad form. It gets
people annoyed. They don't want

1983
02:01:22,740 --> 02:01:25,530
to give your money that you use,
you're putting yourself in a

1984
02:01:25,530 --> 02:01:28,470
position of kind of
braggadocious and eight hole.

1985
02:01:28,650 --> 02:01:33,570
You're a boasting. Yeah, you're
a boasting a whole. Yeah. And

1986
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:37,680
that doesn't play well with any
audience, especially when we're

1987
02:01:37,710 --> 02:01:42,480
having them support the show. So
we dropped it like a like a lead

1988
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:46,950
balloon. And we never again
years ago, years ago. And so

1989
02:01:46,950 --> 02:01:51,600
that sir, Barofsky is the
rationale for not playing that

1990
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:55,140
and we won't play it it's just
never gonna happen. So that's a

1991
02:01:55,140 --> 02:01:57,270
little side there for people out
there wanting to know what's

1992
02:01:57,270 --> 02:01:57,660
going on

1993
02:01:57,660 --> 02:02:01,560
and also Fiddler then also I
just want to reiterate that full

1994
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,650
notes are always read for
Associate Executive producers

1995
02:02:04,650 --> 02:02:08,010
and executive producers we read
at random some of the notes when

1996
02:02:08,010 --> 02:02:10,650
they come through in the regular
donation segment but we just

1997
02:02:10,650 --> 02:02:14,520
can't do them all. So people are
often disappointed Why did you

1998
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:17,670
read his note and not my but if
you do a birthday call out you

1999
02:02:17,670 --> 02:02:19,950
know, we always put that in. So
that's the kind of stuff

2000
02:02:20,099 --> 02:02:22,859
if you get some United
Federation of Planets letterhead

2001
02:02:22,859 --> 02:02:24,359
and you send us a note you might
you might

2002
02:02:24,660 --> 02:02:26,160
get picked out of the pile.
Yeah.

2003
02:02:29,250 --> 02:02:31,710
Now we have John Fiddler in
Seattle, Washington. They're

2004
02:02:31,710 --> 02:02:36,540
both in Washington 100.23. And
he wrote a handwritten note

2005
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:42,300
saying Keep up the good work. He
says the Obama a team jingle is

2006
02:02:42,300 --> 02:02:46,740
my ringtone. I love seeing
people's expression when it goes

2007
02:02:46,740 --> 02:02:51,120
off, which I think is good,
funny idea. started listening on

2008
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:58,980
show 666 Right. And so here's a
he has a story. And it makes you

2009
02:02:58,980 --> 02:03:02,520
wonder who this guy actually is.
John character John Fiddler

2010
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:06,060
character. I started listening
to shows he's what should have

2011
02:03:06,060 --> 02:03:09,480
been a warning dollar per show
plus 23 cents. What he gave us

2012
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:12,270
the the Illuminati can have
their cut, I was first hit in

2013
02:03:12,270 --> 02:03:16,800
the mouth by Bucky Lauro who I
will call out as a douchebag.

2014
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:21,270
Who does not his real name, but
he knows who he is. At the time.

2015
02:03:21,270 --> 02:03:26,700
I was hiking across Turkey for
six weeks. You know, we're

2016
02:03:26,700 --> 02:03:30,000
talking about you were talking
about it. Gulin at the time,

2017
02:03:30,030 --> 02:03:34,950
yeah, I started asking the Turks
what they thought of him. Heads

2018
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:40,260
would snap around, eyes narrow,
and they would say, how do you

2019
02:03:40,260 --> 02:03:46,050
know about Gulin? He is CI A is
right. I knew right a while

2020
02:03:46,110 --> 02:03:50,790
right away that any podcast that
could get me pegged as a CIA

2021
02:03:50,790 --> 02:03:54,540
agent in the Middle East was
worth my time listening to

2022
02:03:55,290 --> 02:03:59,160
and Saturday I'm going to see
Mark Hall's documentary about

2023
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:02,580
the Gulen movement called the
killer Ed. Special screening

2024
02:04:02,580 --> 02:04:05,280
here in Austin. Now report back
on Sunday. Yeah, it's I think

2025
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:08,880
it's gonna be really good. I'm
excited about it. He's the he's

2026
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,430
the guy that's helped us out a
lot on understanding the Gulen

2027
02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:11,820
Movement,

2028
02:04:11,820 --> 02:04:20,460
the Gulin guys. A Kaushik check
Rob Boertie. I see that no

2029
02:04:20,460 --> 02:04:26,610
pronunciation. He does have a
note that will read themselves.

2030
02:04:26,730 --> 02:04:31,110
It's in the email, Kevin and he
gave $100.10 from Bangalore,

2031
02:04:31,350 --> 02:04:39,570
India, which is great. I think,
Kevin, Pratik in White Salmon,

2032
02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:43,140
Washington. $100. Matthew
Anderson $100 from Roseland

2033
02:04:43,470 --> 02:04:49,020
Roslindale. Massachusetts, sir
Scott of The bikes and dikes.

2034
02:04:51,870 --> 02:04:57,810
$99 from Herndon, Virginia. Hmm.
Victor Plano Victor St.

2035
02:04:57,810 --> 02:05:05,970
Petersburg, Russia. Ada ADA
There you go. He says sorry

2036
02:05:05,970 --> 02:05:08,520
couldn't give more money because
his donation had been twice the

2037
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:11,790
current value of the ruble.
Yeah, he's giving us in rubles,

2038
02:05:11,790 --> 02:05:15,150
which means he's getting gypped
Yep. Sir herb lamb and Sugar

2039
02:05:15,150 --> 02:05:22,590
Hill GA Fabian Meier in Zurich,
Switzerland with a nice

2040
02:05:22,590 --> 02:05:26,730
international audience going on
down perfect. At one Sherry

2041
02:05:26,730 --> 02:05:33,930
Laurie and see home Victoria,
Australia at Bruce, Tony. In UK

2042
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:35,400
7733.

2043
02:05:35,430 --> 02:05:41,040
He said he listened to the show
at half speed. It says not only

2044
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:44,520
does it double the length, but
it also makes you guys sound

2045
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:46,110
drunk. It's really an
interesting,

2046
02:05:46,230 --> 02:05:50,340
it's an old trick. Okay, you can
make anybody sound drunk and a

2047
02:05:50,340 --> 02:05:52,680
half speed they used to do that
with George Bush clips that it

2048
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:56,880
was hilarious because he sounds
drunk anyway. Yeah. Is in North

2049
02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:02,280
Charleston, South Carolina.
6896. No, Vin senti in

2050
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:09,480
Morristown, New York. 6666 gave
a shot Bazian shut Bazian in San

2051
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:12,270
Francisco, California $60 It's
got a shout out for his

2052
02:06:12,270 --> 02:06:15,000
girlfriend and we have Yeah, we
got a birthday thing going

2053
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:20,910
there. Robert dem off in manly,
Australia for defy 55 Computer

2054
02:06:20,910 --> 02:06:25,500
Solutions and Services. Parts
Unknown, that defy 33 I'm sure

2055
02:06:25,500 --> 02:06:28,920
there's more than a few of those
around. Nicolas Prince seep in

2056
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:34,410
foot qwave Marina, North
Carolina the 5510 double nickels

2057
02:06:34,410 --> 02:06:40,470
on the dime Marshall. Red touche
NIAC in Regina, Saskatchewan,

2058
02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:40,680
right

2059
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,770
and these are Mile High
donations. These are miles will

2060
02:06:43,770 --> 02:06:46,980
all be reflected on the Mile
High website. Yes. How's that

2061
02:06:46,980 --> 02:06:47,280
going?

2062
02:06:47,310 --> 02:06:50,610
Nothing else to be said. It will
all be reflected on the Mile

2063
02:06:50,610 --> 02:06:54,840
High website. Sir Riccio in
Charlottesville, Virginia. 50 to

2064
02:06:54,840 --> 02:07:00,360
80 these are all 5280s from now
on. Colin Sloman in London, UK,

2065
02:07:00,540 --> 02:07:05,460
Bradley shell nut in Mountain
View, California. Daniel

2066
02:07:05,490 --> 02:07:10,140
Nussbaumer in London UK.
Londoners listening today I do

2067
02:07:10,140 --> 02:07:12,690
have a little thing to talk
about London today. The City of

2068
02:07:12,690 --> 02:07:15,480
London. Alright, Robert guys,
which Americans are unfamiliar

2069
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,840
with. Robert Gosh, go in
Sherwood Park, Alberta James

2070
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:22,740
Murray and Huntington Beach,
California. Brian McFadden in

2071
02:07:22,740 --> 02:07:27,810
Hampton, Virginia. Nice group
here. Hosea Bray, who serves XEP

2072
02:07:27,810 --> 02:07:32,640
of Lusitania in Lisbon,
Portugal. Jason Richmond in

2073
02:07:32,670 --> 02:07:39,450
Redford, Michigan, sir Jason.
Oh, another sir Jason. Rich man.

2074
02:07:39,900 --> 02:07:41,820
Yeah, the oh, he's the same one
buddy. No,

2075
02:07:41,820 --> 02:07:45,150
it's not. No, it's not
apparently. It is apparently

2076
02:07:45,150 --> 02:07:46,950
completely coincidental

2077
02:07:47,100 --> 02:07:49,890
that they're both in Michigan
and they're both named Jason

2078
02:07:49,890 --> 02:07:50,370
Richmond.

2079
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:52,830
According to the shields notes.
Yeah.

2080
02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:58,260
5280s in Livonia. Yep. I wonder
how far Livonian Redford are.

2081
02:07:58,860 --> 02:08:02,820
That's outrageous. Random Number
of true says they're both in

2082
02:08:02,820 --> 02:08:07,410
Michigan. So try could be Well,
we'll find out. No, Sir Charles

2083
02:08:07,410 --> 02:08:10,980
Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois.
That concludes our mile high

2084
02:08:10,980 --> 02:08:16,050
club now we have Tanya Rudolph
$51 from Slovenia. One of my

2085
02:08:16,050 --> 02:08:17,910
favourite one of the great
countries of the world you want

2086
02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:21,750
to travel right now it's
probably not a good time. But

2087
02:08:21,750 --> 02:08:25,740
Slovenia is great. Michael Vick
Lind it these are all $50

2088
02:08:25,740 --> 02:08:31,050
donors. This finishes us off $50
A Michael Vick Lund in Sweden.

2089
02:08:32,070 --> 02:08:36,720
Andrew Martin into Rella Terrell
in New South Wales, Australia

2090
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:40,140
Patrick may calm Sir Patrick may
come to you in New York City.

2091
02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:45,360
Brandon mink in Tempe, Arizona,
Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas,

2092
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:49,950
Gainesville, Virginia has Bryan
Dawson, Daniel laboy and bath

2093
02:08:49,950 --> 02:08:56,670
Michigan, Steve Winslow and
Bristol, Avon, UK. And finally

2094
02:08:56,670 --> 02:09:00,180
de Anna Carruthers in Tumwater.
Washington, where they used to

2095
02:09:00,180 --> 02:09:05,130
make dynamite beer. Well not
really would be your best sir

2096
02:09:05,130 --> 02:09:07,740
Benjamin Harrison, sir Benjamin
Smith yet? I'm not sure I'm just

2097
02:09:07,740 --> 02:09:11,430
an Oakland over here, Sir David
Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois.

2098
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:14,040
And that concludes our $50
donors and the whole list of

2099
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:16,710
people that really helped us out
here on our show. I have a note

2100
02:09:16,710 --> 02:09:17,790
767

2101
02:09:17,820 --> 02:09:21,990
I have a note from Joe Bloggs,
Nick Vlasic. Sorry plasic Yeah.

2102
02:09:22,410 --> 02:09:24,750
My final payment to complete my
knighthood for the roundtable is

2103
02:09:24,750 --> 02:09:32,490
in the mail. C is the breakdown.
I like he's on the list. So I

2104
02:09:32,610 --> 02:09:35,190
guess it came in through a check
or something, but he's probably

2105
02:09:35,190 --> 02:09:40,560
been in a long a long pay down.
Do you show up anywhere that I

2106
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:44,130
did I miss it somehow. Is he on
the list? He's on the list. But

2107
02:09:44,130 --> 02:09:47,760
then Eric included his notes. So
I'll just read it. I'm sure it's

2108
02:09:47,790 --> 02:09:48,360
correct.

2109
02:09:48,570 --> 02:09:51,090
I think yeah, well, there was
some follow up with okay.

2110
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:55,140
I would love to have a douchebag
call out to Mike red McEwan. All

2111
02:09:55,140 --> 02:09:58,680
right. Punch me in the mouth
about six years ago, but it's

2112
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:01,950
never donated to the show. We
work together at Big Brown have

2113
02:10:01,950 --> 02:10:06,150
graduated into the full time
driver slots we drive truck. And

2114
02:10:06,150 --> 02:10:08,220
he should just load up on the
mac and cheese and put some

2115
02:10:08,220 --> 02:10:10,920
cheddar towards no agenda. But
when the wife controls the

2116
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:15,570
money, but doesn't listen to the
show, dot dot dot Yeah. Also,

2117
02:10:15,570 --> 02:10:17,850
I'd like to be dubbed The Battle
Born Knight is I'm a native

2118
02:10:17,850 --> 02:10:23,250
Nevada and up here in Reno with
the old IT guy. All right. We

2119
02:10:23,250 --> 02:10:28,440
will take care of that Battle
Born night. That's all I have on

2120
02:10:28,740 --> 02:10:34,170
any extra administrative duties.
Nice list today. I appreciate

2121
02:10:34,170 --> 02:10:36,750
what everyone's done for us.
Thank you so much. And thank you

2122
02:10:36,750 --> 02:10:43,740
to Boeing. Makers of fine
aircraft. Thank you to Boeing as

2123
02:10:43,740 --> 02:10:48,300
right, the 767. Also, thank you
to everybody who came in under

2124
02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:50,820
$50. It's highly appreciated. We
know that you're there for

2125
02:10:50,820 --> 02:10:54,660
reasons of anonymity, or you're
on one of our our subscription

2126
02:10:54,660 --> 02:10:57,660
programmes really urge everyone
to get on at least one of those.

2127
02:10:57,660 --> 02:11:00,150
It really does help to have some
form of base. We're a long way

2128
02:11:00,150 --> 02:11:03,690
off still but everything helps.
And unlike the douchebags who

2129
02:11:03,690 --> 02:11:06,240
were doing native advertising,
we actually are making the

2130
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:11,460
programme for you to
vote.org/and A.

2131
02:11:19,110 --> 02:11:22,470
KENNETH Myklebust says Happy
Birthday to his brother Marius,

2132
02:11:22,470 --> 02:11:28,020
who will be 34 on October 24.
KAUSHIK Chakraborty is

2133
02:11:28,020 --> 02:11:32,640
celebrating on October 29. And
gave somebody Symposion says

2134
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:35,370
Happy Birthday to his lovely
girlfriend Rihanna, she is

2135
02:11:35,370 --> 02:11:38,940
turning 25 today and we say send
pictures and happy birthday from

2136
02:11:38,940 --> 02:11:43,050
your buddy. She had the best
podcast in the universe. Okay,

2137
02:11:43,050 --> 02:11:45,930
three nice things then very
good. Nice and happy to do that

2138
02:11:45,930 --> 02:11:50,130
today. So let me get my my blade
out here. A little dangerous

2139
02:11:50,130 --> 02:11:53,880
with with this congestion. I
don't know what I'm doing. Just

2140
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:59,160
swooping around with this thing.
Where's yours? Where's your job

2141
02:11:59,160 --> 02:12:03,480
last? Marius Myklebust. Russell
Hickey come on up to the podium.

2142
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:06,960
We are very happy to present you
with seats at the table the

2143
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:09,060
round for the night in the games
and the note in the round table.

2144
02:12:09,060 --> 02:12:13,230
I'm very proud to pronounce
Katie Sergio Vlasic the battle

2145
02:12:13,230 --> 02:12:20,010
board nights serve shake him on
and of Berkshire Norway. And Sir

2146
02:12:20,010 --> 02:12:23,010
Russell Abell me, gentlemen, for
you. We have hookers and blow

2147
02:12:23,010 --> 02:12:26,100
renforcement Chardonnay, we've
got opium and warm orange juice

2148
02:12:26,100 --> 02:12:28,770
three gates in the bucket of
fried chicken hot pans and booze

2149
02:12:28,770 --> 02:12:31,500
winches and beer cases and sock
a and of course we have the

2150
02:12:31,500 --> 02:12:34,080
mutton and Mead right there. If
you head over to no agenda

2151
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:37,890
nation.com/rings Give Eric the
show your information and your

2152
02:12:37,890 --> 02:12:42,630
rings will be on the way. And
remember to tweet out a picture

2153
02:12:42,660 --> 02:12:46,170
of your Yeah, we haven't. We
haven't had a lot of nights

2154
02:12:46,170 --> 02:12:46,620
lately.

2155
02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:51,510
Well, it's true. We have not had
uns go back pre segment. Just

2156
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:55,710
want to say one more thing about
native advertising. Sure. I wish

2157
02:12:55,710 --> 02:12:57,960
I did mention the newsletter I
just forgot to mention during my

2158
02:12:57,960 --> 02:12:58,290
speech.

2159
02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:01,380
Do you think we get the point?
But yeah, no, you

2160
02:13:01,380 --> 02:13:06,900
don't get this point. Okay.
Which is it's the millennials.

2161
02:13:08,010 --> 02:13:10,980
It's the millennials have that
have driven native advertising

2162
02:13:10,980 --> 02:13:15,630
and your story, JC buzzkill Jr,
I remember when he's a little

2163
02:13:15,630 --> 02:13:19,440
kid, or actually in high school,
maybe and he would talk about

2164
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:24,090
his generation as being a
generation that was he would

2165
02:13:24,090 --> 02:13:27,210
brag about this. And it seems
that they've all believed this.

2166
02:13:27,540 --> 02:13:30,450
They were a generation because
of whatever however they're

2167
02:13:30,450 --> 02:13:33,210
brought up I'm not sure what
they're trying to prove by

2168
02:13:33,210 --> 02:13:38,430
saying this that was immune to
advertise didn't work on them.

2169
02:13:38,940 --> 02:13:43,050
Yeah, right. Some you were
immune to advertising, right? So

2170
02:13:43,050 --> 02:13:47,370
will you were independent
thinkers, and native. They're

2171
02:13:47,370 --> 02:13:50,250
not immune to native
advertising. They native

2172
02:13:50,250 --> 02:13:54,930
advertising is for them. And
you'll find all Millennials even

2173
02:13:54,930 --> 02:13:59,310
the ones that listen to our show
are all in for one thing. Bo

2174
02:13:59,310 --> 02:14:03,420
vice all you just see the last
vice video vice vice vice are

2175
02:14:03,420 --> 02:14:07,320
big fans of vice. And vice which
is a native advertising

2176
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:11,040
operation is just one of the
many things What if you find out

2177
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:14,160
what they like it's always
something that there's a product

2178
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:16,560
involved but they don't even
know they're being a are

2179
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:17,610
suckers. And

2180
02:14:17,610 --> 02:14:22,350
I think I mentioned this before
that the dead giveaway is what

2181
02:14:22,350 --> 02:14:26,910
vice is paying their crews.
Everyone I hear who I've spoken

2182
02:14:26,910 --> 02:14:29,040
to who has worked for vice. I
was like, Man, those guys got

2183
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:32,070
budget. It's all cool. They
don't care about let me tell you

2184
02:14:32,070 --> 02:14:36,120
something. If you're in a pure
advertising play business, there

2185
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:40,290
is no budget. The whole idea is
to create content as cheaply as

2186
02:14:40,290 --> 02:14:45,150
possible. Now, the whole point
is to create great content that

2187
02:14:45,180 --> 02:14:48,360
obfuscates the fact that it's
native advertising. That's why

2188
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:49,260
there's budgets.

2189
02:14:51,210 --> 02:14:53,100
Yes, it's one of those big
there's money

2190
02:14:56,730 --> 02:14:59,460
moves I gotta look clipless John
want to do a couple of

2191
02:14:59,490 --> 02:15:03,750
elections. One slip lead
elections 2016. Some clips, some

2192
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:11,160
clip blitz things here. Let me
see. First of all, I'm very sad,

2193
02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:14,460
very sad, very sad that the guy
that I liked the guy who I

2194
02:15:14,490 --> 02:15:17,850
thought was best or most
interesting, during the

2195
02:15:17,850 --> 02:15:23,730
Democratic debates, Jim Webb has
decided to cut outs and I can

2196
02:15:23,730 --> 02:15:24,720
take them Can I people

2197
02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:30,360
say, I'm a Republican who became
a Democrat, but that I often

2198
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:33,960
sound like a Republican and a
roomful of Democrats, or

2199
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:36,510
democrat and a roomful of
Republicans. And actually, I

2200
02:15:36,510 --> 02:15:40,650
take that as a compliment. More
people in this country call

2201
02:15:40,650 --> 02:15:43,350
themselves political
independents than either

2202
02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:48,030
Republicans or Democrat, I
happen to agree with them. Our

2203
02:15:48,030 --> 02:15:53,190
country is more important than a
label. Democrats and years pass,

2204
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:57,810
understood this people like Sam
Nunn, Scoop Jackson, Mike

2205
02:15:57,810 --> 02:16:02,730
Mansfield, John Kennedy, among
others. I know, I'm going to

2206
02:16:02,730 --> 02:16:06,300
hear this. So let me be the
first to say it, I fully accept

2207
02:16:06,300 --> 02:16:10,590
that my views on many issues are
not compatible with the power

2208
02:16:10,590 --> 02:16:13,440
structure and the nominating
base of the Democratic Party.

2209
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:17,190
That party is filled with
millions of dedicated

2210
02:16:17,190 --> 02:16:21,390
hardworking Americans, but its
hierarchy is not comfortable

2211
02:16:21,390 --> 02:16:26,130
with many of the policies that I
have laid forth. And frankly,

2212
02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:30,060
I'm not that comfortable with
many of there's no kidding. For

2213
02:16:30,060 --> 02:16:35,070
this reason, I'm withdrawing
from any consideration of being

2214
02:16:35,070 --> 02:16:38,580
the Democratic Party's nominee
for the presidency. This does

2215
02:16:38,580 --> 02:16:42,840
not reduce in any way, my
concerns, or the challenges

2216
02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:45,510
facing our country. My belief
that

2217
02:16:45,510 --> 02:16:48,000
I liked that he said, our
country, that's kind of my hot

2218
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:48,510
button, they're

2219
02:16:49,020 --> 02:16:53,310
the best leadership in order to
meet these challenges are my

2220
02:16:53,310 --> 02:16:55,350
intention is to remain fully
engaged.

2221
02:16:55,469 --> 02:16:59,219
Okay. So he he's insinuating
that he may run as an

2222
02:16:59,219 --> 02:17:02,189
independent, you know, with our
inside information that Gary

2223
02:17:02,189 --> 02:17:06,749
Johnson is planning on running,
will we see some form of

2224
02:17:06,749 --> 02:17:09,659
independent candidate debate? I
mean, we this is going to be

2225
02:17:09,659 --> 02:17:13,919
very interesting. Because this
is not what the system wants.

2226
02:17:13,919 --> 02:17:20,279
The system wants red blue, right
left. Yeah, of course. Kratz and

2227
02:17:22,139 --> 02:17:23,669
Dems and

2228
02:17:24,780 --> 02:17:27,570
GLP has those are the guys are
gonna get all the money from the

2229
02:17:27,570 --> 02:17:29,370
super PACs and everything else.
They're gonna spend it on

2230
02:17:29,370 --> 02:17:32,610
advertising for PAC. So I mean,
who how much money to Gary

2231
02:17:32,610 --> 02:17:38,400
Johnson spent on his campaign as
a libertarian? Last See, so

2232
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:41,430
you're saying you're saying they
will have no debate?

2233
02:17:42,600 --> 02:17:44,370
The right if we see what I'm
saying?

2234
02:17:44,639 --> 02:17:46,979
Well, hopefully there'll be some
outrage they would have to by

2235
02:17:46,979 --> 02:17:51,389
the time So Donald Trump did
something very interesting. I'd

2236
02:17:51,389 --> 02:17:58,649
say extremely interesting. He
was able to needle Jeb Bush into

2237
02:17:58,829 --> 02:18:04,559
responding to his brother. Yeah,
saying, Well, you know, look, I

2238
02:18:04,559 --> 02:18:09,119
don't know which way you want to
how you want to twist this, but

2239
02:18:09,389 --> 02:18:12,659
George W. Bush, your brother was
president when we were attacked.

2240
02:18:12,659 --> 02:18:17,009
So you know, if he's to blame it
or leave it, he's to blame. And,

2241
02:18:17,309 --> 02:18:23,729
and he never said that, that.
Um, okay. But let's the

2242
02:18:23,729 --> 02:18:27,299
insinuation is there, and Jeb
Bush is responding. And they're

2243
02:18:27,299 --> 02:18:31,679
bringing out guns, man, we hit
let's see here is shirt off. My

2244
02:18:31,949 --> 02:18:38,639
mic was Michael Chertoff, who?
He ran TSA, did he also run? He

2245
02:18:38,639 --> 02:18:42,659
was home No. Homeland Security,
right? Yep. Guy top guy. So he

2246
02:18:42,659 --> 02:18:46,619
comes on? I guess he's with? I
think he's with broth. And he's

2247
02:18:46,919 --> 02:18:50,669
telling us is that what he what
I liked about this clip, is he's

2248
02:18:50,699 --> 02:18:57,149
rattling off this whole list of
great things George W. Bush did

2249
02:18:57,149 --> 02:18:59,909
for us. But that all depends on
your perspective if they're

2250
02:18:59,909 --> 02:19:00,629
great or not.

2251
02:19:00,660 --> 02:19:03,420
So let's be clear. First of all,
a number of the critical

2252
02:19:03,420 --> 02:19:06,900
hijackers actually came into the
country prior to President Bush

2253
02:19:06,900 --> 02:19:10,080
assuming office. This was a plot
that was planned years in

2254
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:13,320
advance it unfolded over a
period of time. Fair point, fair

2255
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:16,740
point, there was no actionable
intelligence that points

2256
02:19:16,770 --> 02:19:21,030
specifically, or even in general
to an aviation plot of the kind

2257
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:22,140
that crawled

2258
02:19:22,139 --> 02:19:26,159
on broke broke was gonna jump in
because it did say, and this is

2259
02:19:26,159 --> 02:19:29,999
a quote from the August 6 2001.
This is a couple of months

2260
02:19:29,999 --> 02:19:33,809
before 911 presidential daily
briefing and titled Bin Laden

2261
02:19:33,809 --> 02:19:38,369
determined to strike in US FBI
information since 1998 indicates

2262
02:19:38,459 --> 02:19:41,909
patterns of suspicious activity
in this country consistent with

2263
02:19:41,909 --> 02:19:45,269
preparations for hijackings or
other types of attacks,

2264
02:19:45,269 --> 02:19:48,929
including recent surveillance of
federal buildings in New York

2265
02:19:48,929 --> 02:19:49,319
correct

2266
02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:51,660
show that would lead you if you
were going to focus on that to

2267
02:19:51,660 --> 02:19:54,930
look at federal buildings being
surveilled on the ground. My

2268
02:19:54,930 --> 02:19:55,830
point is Wolf.

2269
02:19:57,150 --> 02:19:59,970
No, no. Listen to it. Listen to
his

2270
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,760
So we had a system that needed
to be repaired and President

2271
02:20:02,760 --> 02:20:05,910
Bush did repair it. There was no
specific intelligence that

2272
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:08,490
pointed to the plot that
actually would happen. But we

2273
02:20:08,490 --> 02:20:11,430
did happen after the plot after
that terrible day on September

2274
02:20:11,430 --> 02:20:14,400
11. And I was part of this was
the press. Yeah, we know you

2275
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:17,970
were part of it, Duchenne swung
into action, and immediately

2276
02:20:17,970 --> 02:20:21,150
began to change the entire
infrastructure of our defence,

2277
02:20:21,180 --> 02:20:25,170
and we got great things for it.
Listen to the list. We created

2278
02:20:25,170 --> 02:20:25,500
much

2279
02:20:25,500 --> 02:20:29,280
harder and tougher barriers to
people coming in from overseas

2280
02:20:29,310 --> 02:20:31,650
right screwed up immigration,
good work,

2281
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:34,590
we expanded our intelligence
capabilities and spying on

2282
02:20:34,590 --> 02:20:38,340
American citizens guilty or not.
We tore down the legal barriers

2283
02:20:38,340 --> 02:20:40,620
that had prevented information
sharing Shut

2284
02:20:40,620 --> 02:20:43,620
up slave, we're gonna share your
information with the companies

2285
02:20:43,620 --> 02:20:44,550
that you work with.

2286
02:20:44,970 --> 02:20:48,540
The President went into
Afghanistan and pushed al Qaeda

2287
02:20:48,540 --> 02:20:52,230
out of it safe haven, poppies
galore. And by the way, we

2288
02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:54,540
discovered laboratories where
they were experimenting with

2289
02:20:54,540 --> 02:20:58,140
chemical weapons. Shut that
down. Yeah, all of us remember

2290
02:20:58,140 --> 02:21:01,140
that within a day or two. After
that terrible day the President

2291
02:21:01,140 --> 02:21:04,230
got up in front of the World
Trade Centre, which was still

2292
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:07,530
smoking and said, We're going to
bring justice to them or we're

2293
02:21:07,530 --> 02:21:09,630
going to bring them to justice
and he did it. Right.

2294
02:21:09,630 --> 02:21:13,980
Michael Chertoff, you are
without any doubt far ahead of

2295
02:21:13,980 --> 02:21:17,430
the pack and a ginormous douche
bag.

2296
02:21:17,820 --> 02:21:19,230
Don't use that word. Sorry,

2297
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:23,070
Dick. I realised that Pete Not
everyone understands when we say

2298
02:21:23,070 --> 02:21:23,790
broth,

2299
02:21:24,210 --> 02:21:28,230
does he? I want to remind him
why we say say both

2300
02:21:28,260 --> 02:21:32,670
Dr. Fauci thanks so much as
always for joining us. Good to

2301
02:21:32,670 --> 02:21:33,510
be here both.

2302
02:21:35,610 --> 02:21:40,020
Now, did he mention how much it
costs the US economy and it

2303
02:21:40,020 --> 02:21:43,080
probably is responsible for
sending it into a tailspin in a

2304
02:21:43,380 --> 02:21:45,450
recession and never ended? No,
of

2305
02:21:45,450 --> 02:21:50,370
course not. Of course not. But
what what I love I would kind of

2306
02:21:50,370 --> 02:21:56,370
focus on here is the Morning Joe
Show. Who are they're losing

2307
02:21:56,370 --> 02:21:59,460
their crap because they finally
discovering Donald Trump is from

2308
02:21:59,460 --> 02:22:03,420
the future. We of course all
knew this.

2309
02:22:03,420 --> 02:22:05,100
I know this clip. He has a good
one. That's good.

2310
02:22:05,100 --> 02:22:08,760
Let me show you something else.
BuzzFeed dug up an old quote

2311
02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:13,470
from Donald Trump, talking about
a large scale terror attack 19

2312
02:22:13,470 --> 02:22:18,450
months before 911. In his 2000
book, The America we deserve,

2313
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:21,870
Trump wrote, I really am
convinced we are in danger of

2314
02:22:21,870 --> 02:22:24,210
the sort of terrorist attacks
that will make the bombing of

2315
02:22:24,210 --> 02:22:28,110
the 1993 trade centre look like
little kids playing with

2316
02:22:28,110 --> 02:22:31,500
firecrackers. Trump also
mentioned the mastermind of the

2317
02:22:31,500 --> 02:22:35,250
attack writing quote, one day,
we're told that a shadowy figure

2318
02:22:35,250 --> 02:22:39,720
with no fixed address named
Osama bin Laden is public enemy

2319
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:43,290
number one and US jet fighters
lay waste to his camp in

2320
02:22:43,290 --> 02:22:47,370
Afghanistan, he escapes back
under some rock and a few new

2321
02:22:47,370 --> 02:22:52,170
cycles later, it's onto a new
enemy. And a new crisis.

2322
02:22:53,039 --> 02:22:56,429
Tried way, way, way, way, way,
way. Okay, hold on a second. Is

2323
02:22:56,429 --> 02:22:58,499
this really Trump before? 911?

2324
02:22:58,860 --> 02:23:02,250
Have you read this? 2000? And
are we making somebody made? Did

2325
02:23:02,250 --> 02:23:05,730
you make this up? I mean, so
Willie, that was

2326
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:06,570
2000.

2327
02:23:06,990 --> 02:23:08,850
In a book he wrote in the year
2000,

2328
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:10,620
was published in 2000. He could
have written

2329
02:23:10,620 --> 02:23:11,400
in 1999.

2330
02:23:11,669 --> 02:23:14,969
Exactly, he might have been more
precious. He predicted,

2331
02:23:15,509 --> 02:23:16,049
basically

2332
02:23:16,050 --> 02:23:18,270
predicted tax from

2333
02:23:18,270 --> 02:23:22,860
Osama bin Laden. But we'd had
the World Trade bombings in 93.

2334
02:23:22,950 --> 02:23:28,320
We had the embassy bombing right
in, in an IDA 98.

2335
02:23:28,830 --> 02:23:31,890
Cold. I love how these guys are
saying Oh, but of course it's so

2336
02:23:31,890 --> 02:23:35,820
easy to see how he came to this
conclusion like, but they never

2337
02:23:35,820 --> 02:23:37,440
came to the conclusion and
Nicole

2338
02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:38,190
as well. So

2339
02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:44,190
I love that little flub there
where he where he confuses Obama

2340
02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:45,840
for Osan, Ida 98.

2341
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:50,010
The coal and the coal as well.
So I think there was Obama was

2342
02:23:50,010 --> 02:23:53,400
in the, excuse me, Osama bin
Laden was in the atmosphere and

2343
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:54,660
wrote about it in the book.

2344
02:23:54,840 --> 02:23:58,080
Yeah. All right. Well, there's a
bunch of there's a sea change

2345
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:01,710
going on. And I think that this
disorder of publicity for Trump

2346
02:24:01,710 --> 02:24:07,230
is part of it. Because ABC who
I've always claimed or sad or

2347
02:24:07,260 --> 02:24:12,120
observed, they're all in for
Bush all the time. Because Bush

2348
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:15,210
is a Floridian and there's a
Disney's in Florida, as we

2349
02:24:15,210 --> 02:24:19,290
talked about, then Disney owns
ABC. Yeah. And they it looks as

2350
02:24:19,290 --> 02:24:22,860
though they're gonna start to
give up on Bush if he doesn't

2351
02:24:22,860 --> 02:24:25,200
start performing better and
every time that you turn around,

2352
02:24:25,200 --> 02:24:29,130
he's not. He's getting into
arguments about his brother. He

2353
02:24:29,130 --> 02:24:33,210
looks I agree with Trump. He
looks weak. He's got a big giant

2354
02:24:33,210 --> 02:24:33,840
ahead like

2355
02:24:34,020 --> 02:24:35,820
steroids, low tea.

2356
02:24:37,020 --> 02:24:40,770
I wouldn't be surprised if he's,
you know, on steroids. So let's

2357
02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:45,000
play this ABC. Well, first
there's there's this this first

2358
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:49,290
play this little little clip
here. This is the ABC of David

2359
02:24:49,290 --> 02:24:52,650
Muir making an offhanded comment
you I just don't know if he can

2360
02:24:52,650 --> 02:24:56,640
catch it or not. When they bring
up Hillary because Hillary is a

2361
02:24:56,640 --> 02:24:59,820
target of theirs. They're
talking this is the end of their

2362
02:24:59,820 --> 02:25:02,820
day. gushed about Biden dropping
out of the whole race. He's not

2363
02:25:02,820 --> 02:25:03,900
going to go in ever,

2364
02:25:03,990 --> 02:25:07,290
always be on the front lines and
always fighting for all of us.

2365
02:25:07,530 --> 02:25:11,040
And you also if you know Hillary
Clinton, you know that she would

2366
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:14,430
like to see a Joe Biden
endorsement and soon and see Joe

2367
02:25:14,430 --> 02:25:15,450
Biden fighting for her.

2368
02:25:15,510 --> 02:25:17,280
All right. Well, we'll see about
that. In the meantime, John,

2369
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:19,740
stay with us because Republicans
are now reacting to Biden's

2370
02:25:19,740 --> 02:25:21,510
announcement to from what a gay

2371
02:25:22,200 --> 02:25:26,670
dude comment was. We'll see
about that. Yeah, we'll see. I

2372
02:25:26,670 --> 02:25:28,710
thought that was a snide
comment. Do

2373
02:25:28,710 --> 02:25:32,430
you think that Biden is he's
hoping that Hillary will win and

2374
02:25:32,430 --> 02:25:34,380
ask him to be vice president

2375
02:25:34,410 --> 02:25:38,040
knows no way. There, she
wouldn't do it anyway. So let's

2376
02:25:38,040 --> 02:25:42,570
play. This is the eighth. This
is where I see ABC was very anti

2377
02:25:42,570 --> 02:25:45,330
Trump all of a sudden kind of
warming up to the guy a little

2378
02:25:45,330 --> 02:25:47,070
huh. Because they have

2379
02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:51,180
these ratings because Jeb Bush
is zero ratings. Donald Trump is

2380
02:25:51,510 --> 02:25:54,330
the loser. So let's go with
Trump may get nomination Clinton

2381
02:25:54,330 --> 02:25:54,810
or Donald

2382
02:25:54,810 --> 02:25:57,810
Trump tonight tweeting, Biden
made the right decision adding

2383
02:25:57,810 --> 02:26:01,590
he'd rather run against Hillary
Clinton because of a record and

2384
02:26:01,590 --> 02:26:04,320
new numbers tonight, prompting
the Washington Post to ask is it

2385
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:07,260
time to concede that Donald
Trump is likely to win the

2386
02:26:07,260 --> 02:26:10,740
nomination. And here they are
the new ABC News Washington poll

2387
02:26:10,740 --> 02:26:13,800
numbers reflecting very strong
numbers for Trump. 42% of

2388
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:17,460
Republicans now say they expect
Trump to be the eventual nominee

2389
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:21,090
43% say he has the best chance
of winning the general election.

2390
02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:25,050
Their top pick for strongest
leader. They also say he's best

2391
02:26:25,050 --> 02:26:28,140
on immigration and the
Republican who understands them

2392
02:26:28,140 --> 02:26:31,710
best, some very strong polling
for Trump tonight. So John,

2393
02:26:31,710 --> 02:26:34,050
here's the question the
republican party when they see

2394
02:26:34,050 --> 02:26:36,870
these numbers, do they think
this could eventually be Donald

2395
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:38,700
Trump versus Hillary Clinton?

2396
02:26:39,300 --> 02:26:41,940
Well, Republican leaders in this
town have been in denial for a

2397
02:26:41,940 --> 02:26:45,210
long time saying Trump cannot
win the nomination. You no

2398
02:26:45,210 --> 02:26:47,910
longer hear that said with
confidence. They are starting to

2399
02:26:47,910 --> 02:26:51,720
come to terms with the fact that
he may be their nominee, David,

2400
02:26:51,750 --> 02:26:55,200
he has been the front runner for
three solid months. This is no

2401
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:56,460
longer a flash in the pan.

2402
02:26:56,520 --> 02:26:59,130
All right, John Karl with us
tonight. John, thank you and to

2403
02:26:59,130 --> 02:26:59,730
one other.

2404
02:27:00,120 --> 02:27:03,960
Okay. I noticed something as
well about a change in the tide

2405
02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:07,440
for Donald Trump. From the show
that I have been obsessed with

2406
02:27:07,440 --> 02:27:08,760
for the past few weeks.

2407
02:27:10,290 --> 02:27:13,560
Housewives of Hollywood the
view? Oh, yes.

2408
02:27:14,550 --> 02:27:18,780
This is joy Bay har and Oh, my
What a difference a day makes

2409
02:27:19,290 --> 02:27:28,260
starting to warm up to Trump a
little bit now. Yes, yeah. I'm

2410
02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:30,960
not voting for him. And I don't
like the way

2411
02:27:31,500 --> 02:27:34,620
I love when people say that, you
know, I'm not voting for him.

2412
02:27:34,620 --> 02:27:37,950
But he does have a point. I hear
this all the time. Well, you

2413
02:27:37,950 --> 02:27:40,050
know, sure. He has a point. But
I would never vote. I

2414
02:27:40,050 --> 02:27:42,690
don't agree with you guys all
the time. But yeah, but

2415
02:27:42,690 --> 02:27:46,470
not voting for him. And I don't
like the race bathing. Let's get

2416
02:27:46,470 --> 02:27:49,530
that out of the way and will
never replace my arousal

2417
02:27:49,530 --> 02:27:54,690
feelings for Bernie, but the guy
is not as bad as the rest of

2418
02:27:54,690 --> 02:27:58,410
them. First of all, he may not
be pro choice, but Rubio, for

2419
02:27:58,410 --> 02:28:02,250
example, believes no abortion,
even in the cases of rape and

2420
02:28:02,250 --> 02:28:06,030
incest. Trump doesn't say that
Trump does not say that. He

2421
02:28:06,030 --> 02:28:08,730
believes in single payer, he
wants everybody to have health

2422
02:28:08,730 --> 02:28:11,700
care from the government, that
he agrees with Bernie, he wants

2423
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:15,060
to raise taxes on the rich. He
believes in Bernie. I mean, I

2424
02:28:15,060 --> 02:28:18,330
looked this up, I couldn't
believe it, you know, but and he

2425
02:28:18,330 --> 02:28:21,480
was against the Iraq War. And he
said so in one of his books

2426
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:26,340
before 911 even happened, so he
was like No stra trumpists. You

2427
02:28:26,340 --> 02:28:30,780
know what I'm saying? He said in
that book. He's not as bad as

2428
02:28:30,780 --> 02:28:32,310
the rest of them on that team.

2429
02:28:33,660 --> 02:28:38,010
Okay, Joy Beyhadh. Now, I did a
little research because I think

2430
02:28:38,010 --> 02:28:43,380
I had kicked off. I saw Joey
Diaz on Joe Rogan Show Joe Rogan

2431
02:28:43,380 --> 02:28:47,490
experience. And Joey Diaz said
something that I, you know, I

2432
02:28:47,730 --> 02:28:53,550
went to look and, and dig a
little bit. And I didn't have to

2433
02:28:53,550 --> 02:28:56,760
dig very far. But digging for
Well, I don't want to tell you

2434
02:28:56,760 --> 02:29:01,950
just yet I'm setting it up.
Okay. But I didn't have to go

2435
02:29:01,950 --> 02:29:07,980
much further back than July of
2015. To find some stories. But

2436
02:29:08,250 --> 02:29:12,330
well, listen to this is a report
from CNN, this is about the

2437
02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:17,130
ground game. Because of course
when you're now Trump is pretty

2438
02:29:17,130 --> 02:29:19,770
serious. He's got he's got his
policy papers out there, even

2439
02:29:19,770 --> 02:29:23,850
though people say he doesn't.
They may not be the way people

2440
02:29:23,850 --> 02:29:27,060
want them to be. But his tax
plan is there as immigration

2441
02:29:27,060 --> 02:29:32,550
planning. He's got plans, but he
has a ground game. And I caught

2442
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:38,130
this earlier, or maybe four or
four shows ago, but let's listen

2443
02:29:38,130 --> 02:29:39,360
to this. And you'll see what I'm
Trump's

2444
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:42,510
team now looking to prove it has
the organisation to bring the

2445
02:29:42,510 --> 02:29:46,260
candidate to the finish line.
We're all doing our part in

2446
02:29:46,290 --> 02:29:50,370
those pay staffers in 11 states,
including a total of 40

2447
02:29:50,370 --> 02:29:53,850
employees in states holding the
first four nominating contests

2448
02:29:54,150 --> 02:29:56,310
and the operation is still
growing.

2449
02:29:56,490 --> 02:29:59,220
Our ground game is all over
Iowa, New Hampshire all over

2450
02:29:59,250 --> 02:30:01,230
South Carolina. The tremendous
ground game

2451
02:30:01,440 --> 02:30:05,370
IW offers a unique challenge
turning Trump's super fans into

2452
02:30:05,370 --> 02:30:09,030
committed caucus goers to make
it happen. That campaign is

2453
02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:12,390
teaching supporters how to
caucus and organising precinct

2454
02:30:12,390 --> 02:30:15,540
captains to help deliver a
victory. But the question

2455
02:30:15,540 --> 02:30:18,990
remains, can trump turn his poll
numbers into actual

2456
02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:23,160
we attract people from all over?
We go to the population centres.

2457
02:30:23,610 --> 02:30:27,240
We do the things that are
necessary to get people out. We

2458
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:31,290
sign them up. We get the cards
filled out. We put them into our

2459
02:30:31,290 --> 02:30:34,470
database and then we get ready
to crank up the ground game.

2460
02:30:34,500 --> 02:30:37,920
Yeah, bingo, boom, Bada bing, we
just put them into the database.

2461
02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:40,740
We get it all good. Did you hear
the guy earlier? We're all doing

2462
02:30:40,740 --> 02:30:44,370
our pot. We're all doing our
pot. That's a guy getting signed

2463
02:30:44,370 --> 02:30:48,060
out of his trunk in Iowa. We're
all doing our pies. All right.

2464
02:30:48,060 --> 02:30:51,420
And then we had a clip earlier a
couple of weeks ago. I

2465
02:30:51,450 --> 02:30:55,350
think it's really gross. In all
honesty that Hillary is talking

2466
02:30:55,350 --> 02:30:56,190
about raising $2

2467
02:30:56,190 --> 02:30:59,700
billion. He's talking about
raising $2 billion to win the

2468
02:30:59,700 --> 02:31:03,150
presidency rousers with 100
million dollars super PAC Super

2469
02:31:03,150 --> 02:31:12,510
PACs, John, these are Goombas
Donald Trump has had no tourists

2470
02:31:12,510 --> 02:31:18,840
ties to organised crime to the
Moors, but no one is. No one is

2471
02:31:18,840 --> 02:31:20,190
bringing this up.

2472
02:31:20,940 --> 02:31:24,030
Well this because he probably
has an answer for it.

2473
02:31:24,060 --> 02:31:28,800
No, no, no, no, no, I think I
think they're afraid. This is

2474
02:31:28,800 --> 02:31:31,500
the most recent thing I could
find was an article not even a

2475
02:31:31,530 --> 02:31:38,130
video July 31 talking about
Donald Trump's glittering empire

2476
02:31:38,130 --> 02:31:40,470
of New York skyscrapers in
Atlantic City casinos have long

2477
02:31:40,470 --> 02:31:43,980
had a darker side allegations
the mob helped build them I mean

2478
02:31:44,010 --> 02:31:46,560
yeah, come on. Are you kidding
me? You're gonna build a New

2479
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:49,440
York City and you're not dealing
with the concrete business now

2480
02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:53,670
dealing with the mob of course
he is. Why is this not even

2481
02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:57,390
brought up? Why

2482
02:32:00,690 --> 02:32:03,060
I don't know and this kind of
thing I can think of a couple of

2483
02:32:03,060 --> 02:32:06,090
reasons why you wouldn't bring
it up you don't have any he's

2484
02:32:06,090 --> 02:32:09,960
done a really good job of of
staying away you know, he's

2485
02:32:09,960 --> 02:32:13,260
doesn't have he's not hanging
out with the mob bosses when

2486
02:32:13,260 --> 02:32:13,950
most of them are

2487
02:32:14,010 --> 02:32:17,760
gone. But listen to the guys
he's got with a suit. Sound a

2488
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:21,990
little mobbed up there all the
guy. We got it here every night.

2489
02:32:22,020 --> 02:32:24,750
Well, we got it. We're doing a
pied everyone's doing up to the

2490
02:32:24,750 --> 02:32:27,720
mob. It reminded me of the
movie. What is the damn movie?

2491
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:32,340
What is the the member the movie
where they the mob went in and

2492
02:32:32,340 --> 02:32:36,930
they kidnapped people who were
Nielsen homes.

2493
02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:40,650
And then they made everyone
Soprano's.

2494
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:44,310
No, no, it was a movie. What the
hell was that in the chat room?

2495
02:32:44,310 --> 02:32:48,300
might know? Yeah. And they had
they were sitting with those

2496
02:32:48,300 --> 02:32:51,240
people for weeks on end. And
then the mob guy had some kind

2497
02:32:51,240 --> 02:32:53,760
of television show and it got
the highest ratings because

2498
02:32:53,760 --> 02:32:55,920
everyone was voting. Yes. We
watched it. We watch it because

2499
02:32:55,920 --> 02:32:59,280
the mob everywhere was it
reminds me of this. Maybe that's

2500
02:32:59,280 --> 02:33:03,690
how the polling works. A, you're
gonna say Trump right? And we

2501
02:33:03,690 --> 02:33:08,220
don't want to get hurt over
here. I mean, it's at least

2502
02:33:08,220 --> 02:33:13,560
worth worth discussing. Well,
you're discussing it right. But

2503
02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:16,020
no one discusses this in
mainstream are they afraid to

2504
02:33:16,020 --> 02:33:16,620
say this

2505
02:33:16,650 --> 02:33:19,260
but he discusses anything that
we discussed

2506
02:33:19,289 --> 02:33:23,669
if Trump is if they want to get
rid of Trump so badly why don't

2507
02:33:23,669 --> 02:33:26,639
why don't the Democrats bring
this Why doesn't anyone say hey

2508
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:32,040
you want to do that if if you
can get somebody that you have

2509
02:33:32,040 --> 02:33:36,420
the goods on actually nominated
the Democrats might be behind

2510
02:33:36,420 --> 02:33:39,930
the nomination and they got
plenty a mob ties and you can

2511
02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:44,070
imagine what Hillary's but you
wait to the last minute so they

2512
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:46,770
show your guy gets in you don't
give a crap about the other guy

2513
02:33:46,770 --> 02:33:53,700
after that. You wouldn't do it
early. You do it late when it

2514
02:33:53,700 --> 02:34:00,450
counted. Did he's not gonna get
the nomination? Okay,

2515
02:34:00,690 --> 02:34:01,470
why not?

2516
02:34:02,190 --> 02:34:05,040
They're gonna they're they're
gonna get this. This is a this

2517
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:09,600
is a fractal. The exact same
thing happened to Ronald Reagan

2518
02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:14,520
in 1976. He was on his way to
getting the nomination and they

2519
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:20,820
derailed him at the very end.
And then he got into the next go

2520
02:34:20,820 --> 02:34:23,190
round and this I believe is
going to be exact same thing

2521
02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:24,030
that happens here.

2522
02:34:24,090 --> 02:34:31,320
The movie was the ratings game.
Starring Danny DeVito. Rhea,

2523
02:34:31,320 --> 02:34:35,850
Perlman was a comedy Yeah. Oh,
yeah. Yes, it was a comedy.

2524
02:34:37,980 --> 02:34:42,420
So funny idea. There was a
Simpsons that a similar

2525
02:34:42,420 --> 02:34:43,050
storyline,

2526
02:34:43,110 --> 02:34:47,370
right? Well, I find it peculiar
that this is okay. Or maybe it

2527
02:34:47,370 --> 02:34:51,420
was a family guy. I got in the
meantime the Democratic National

2528
02:34:51,450 --> 02:34:56,190
Committee has approved a now
they wanted to hold debate but

2529
02:34:56,190 --> 02:34:59,460
they've approved a presidential
town hall with Black Lives

2530
02:34:59,460 --> 02:35:03,960
Matter. I told you these guys
are up to no good. So we're

2531
02:35:03,960 --> 02:35:06,870
gonna have they're gonna have a
town hall with Hillary and I

2532
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:09,930
guess Bernie or maybe someone
else is not going to be a full

2533
02:35:09,930 --> 02:35:12,900
on debate but a town hall which
they've approved. Okay, we'll do

2534
02:35:12,900 --> 02:35:17,610
that and we're going to televise
it for black lives matter. Hmm

2535
02:35:21,630 --> 02:35:25,080
Well, still, uh, you're more
than a year away before we Oh, I

2536
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:28,110
know. That's that's the annoying
things. We have to deal with

2537
02:35:28,110 --> 02:35:35,970
this for so long. It's so
annoying. All right. That's all

2538
02:35:35,970 --> 02:35:39,630
I got from my clipless wasn't
much of a blitz. You didn't come

2539
02:35:39,630 --> 02:35:40,530
in with anything?

2540
02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:43,470
Well, I didn't You didn't give
me any openings for the you had

2541
02:35:43,500 --> 02:35:47,310
thematic stuff going on. Okay, I
guess let's play I got a couple

2542
02:35:47,310 --> 02:35:50,580
just here's a good couple
blitzie clips short, short and

2543
02:35:50,580 --> 02:35:54,660
sweet. This is an interesting
story dead reporter in Turkey?

2544
02:35:56,310 --> 02:36:00,510
Yes. A British journalist has
been found dead in Turkey under

2545
02:36:00,510 --> 02:36:03,450
mysterious circumstances and our
colleagues are calling for an

2546
02:36:03,450 --> 02:36:07,290
international investigation.
Jacqueline Sutton, a former BBC

2547
02:36:07,290 --> 02:36:10,320
journalist and a rock Country
Director for the Institute for

2548
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,530
war and peace reporting was
reportedly found dead in the

2549
02:36:13,530 --> 02:36:17,880
bathroom at Ataturk airport in
Istanbul over the weekend, where

2550
02:36:17,880 --> 02:36:21,420
she was supposed to board a
flight to Iraq. Turkish media

2551
02:36:21,420 --> 02:36:24,000
reported her death as a suicide
but her colleagues are

2552
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:27,180
questioning that account. Her
predecessor at the Institute for

2553
02:36:27,180 --> 02:36:30,870
poor War and Peace reporting was
killed in a car bomb attack in

2554
02:36:30,870 --> 02:36:32,130
Iraq in May.

2555
02:36:33,570 --> 02:36:36,330
So there's something that is
reporters have found out about

2556
02:36:36,330 --> 02:36:41,970
Iraq that requires them to be
assassinated. This woman

2557
02:36:42,600 --> 02:36:46,230
committed suicides but crap.
Yeah, I mean, she was hanging it

2558
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:47,820
she she was at that bus door.

2559
02:36:48,540 --> 02:36:51,480
Myself in the airport. It's such
a great way to the airport

2560
02:36:51,480 --> 02:36:53,940
after you bought a ticket to get
out of town as opposed to what

2561
02:36:53,940 --> 02:36:56,340
she couldn't afford the upgrade
as you can afford to mister

2562
02:36:56,340 --> 02:37:01,170
flight, but she had $2,200 with
her turned out, they searched

2563
02:37:01,170 --> 02:37:04,440
her for dead body. And she just
went to the store. She had a

2564
02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:07,110
couple bags, she was just
shopping. She's so you're

2565
02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:09,960
shopping. You got plenty of
money, and then you hang

2566
02:37:09,960 --> 02:37:13,680
yourself out of the blue. Yeah,
uh huh. No. So the fact that

2567
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:17,490
they made that claim to me is
like a red. Something's wrong

2568
02:37:17,490 --> 02:37:18,120
there. But we've

2569
02:37:18,120 --> 02:37:21,210
had a couple of interesting to
to the head moments, Lord

2570
02:37:21,210 --> 02:37:26,430
Ashcroft. This is the guy who
was quite bleak that in his

2571
02:37:26,430 --> 02:37:31,770
book, he was going to reveal how
David Cameron put his Wang into

2572
02:37:31,770 --> 02:37:35,160
a dead pigs mouth. Lord
Ashcroft.

2573
02:37:37,230 --> 02:37:39,960
What I vaguely remember this
tale.

2574
02:37:40,619 --> 02:37:43,709
Well, this is only from a few
weeks ago, but he was going to

2575
02:37:43,709 --> 02:37:46,769
launch a book and then so he
leaked this, like, Oh, this is

2576
02:37:46,769 --> 02:37:50,399
going to be in my book. And then
all of a sudden he gets septic

2577
02:37:50,399 --> 02:37:53,789
shock, liver and kidney failure
and he misses the launch of his

2578
02:37:53,789 --> 02:37:59,279
own book. Maybe that wasn't such
a good idea or you never want to

2579
02:37:59,279 --> 02:38:00,419
hear this when you're Pope.

2580
02:38:00,449 --> 02:38:04,319
The story is splashed across the
front page of Italy's quotidiano

2581
02:38:04,319 --> 02:38:09,749
nazionale. Pope Francis is sick
the paper says. The report

2582
02:38:09,749 --> 02:38:13,679
claims the 78 year old pontiff
has a benign brain tumour that a

2583
02:38:13,679 --> 02:38:16,949
Japanese medical team secretly
visited the pope some months ago

2584
02:38:16,949 --> 02:38:20,309
and spotted the tumour saying it
was treatable without surgery.

2585
02:38:22,499 --> 02:38:25,979
But appointed Vatican spokesman
father Federico Lombardi the

2586
02:38:25,979 --> 02:38:29,009
story is not only untrue, it's
reprehensible

2587
02:38:29,070 --> 02:38:29,910
neutral medical,

2588
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:33,180
no Japanese doctor has been to
the Vatican to visit the Pope.

2589
02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:36,900
There have been no examinations
such as those written about in

2590
02:38:36,900 --> 02:38:40,650
the article. The officers
responsible have confirmed to me

2591
02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:43,740
that there were no helicopter
flights into the Vatican from

2592
02:38:43,770 --> 02:38:46,950
outside even in the month of
January, unless they were

2593
02:38:46,950 --> 02:38:48,450
ghosts. They weren't seen.

2594
02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:50,430
Fantasma. You know some of his

2595
02:38:51,630 --> 02:38:54,630
body says that while the Pope
does have some leg pain because

2596
02:38:54,630 --> 02:38:57,810
of sciatica, he's in good
health. The Japanese doctor is

2597
02:38:57,810 --> 02:39:00,900
cited in the newspaper is
reportedly based in the US but

2598
02:39:00,900 --> 02:39:04,350
hasn't commented on story.
Lombardi however, is being

2599
02:39:04,380 --> 02:39:07,650
outspoken. He says such
misinformation about the Pope

2600
02:39:07,650 --> 02:39:08,610
has to stop.

2601
02:39:08,640 --> 02:39:11,880
You know, I think this is a
warning shot across the bow for

2602
02:39:11,880 --> 02:39:13,050
the Pope. Bill. That

2603
02:39:13,050 --> 02:39:15,660
would be our basic thesis. Yeah,
things happen. Why

2604
02:39:15,660 --> 02:39:23,190
isn't the pope saying I'm okay
climate shines Am I not POM? Ah,

2605
02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:26,310
that's what he should have done?
No, he has a spokes hole come

2606
02:39:26,310 --> 02:39:31,230
out and say no, this is not
good. This does not bode well

2607
02:39:31,230 --> 02:39:33,990
because, oh well. Gee, I guess

2608
02:39:34,140 --> 02:39:34,920
we knew all

2609
02:39:35,699 --> 02:39:39,059
hints about it. It's the old you
know, the poison in the ring

2610
02:39:39,059 --> 02:39:41,579
into the chalice There you go.
Goodbye, poke.

2611
02:39:44,100 --> 02:39:47,460
We know very little about
relapsing Ebola at this point

2612
02:39:47,460 --> 02:39:50,820
because this is very much
frontier science, scientific

2613
02:39:50,820 --> 02:39:51,480
frontier

2614
02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:56,490
science shot. This is a new term
frontier, sir, because Ebola has

2615
02:39:56,490 --> 02:39:57,900
returned this were

2616
02:39:57,990 --> 02:40:01,230
baffled when they saw Pauline
Caffrey Get back into treatment

2617
02:40:01,230 --> 02:40:04,500
again because it was 10 months
after she recovered from the

2618
02:40:04,500 --> 02:40:09,000
Ebola virus. Now doctors in the
field in Sierra Leone are saying

2619
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:12,270
this was not an isolated case or
it may not have been an isolated

2620
02:40:12,270 --> 02:40:15,510
case. They say there have been a
number of mysterious deaths in

2621
02:40:15,510 --> 02:40:19,350
Ebola clinics, among survivors
who have left the clinics and

2622
02:40:19,350 --> 02:40:22,110
then come back complaining of
various symptoms from

2623
02:40:22,110 --> 02:40:26,640
respiratory problems to Ebola
symptoms, again to severe

2624
02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:31,200
constipation, and a handful of
them have died for the 17,000

2625
02:40:31,200 --> 02:40:34,530
Ebola survivors across West
Africa. This is devastating

2626
02:40:34,530 --> 02:40:38,340
news. Not only have they had to
live with stigmatisation and

2627
02:40:38,340 --> 02:40:42,060
marginalisation for months now
people are accusing them of

2628
02:40:42,060 --> 02:40:45,540
potentially harbouring a virus
and infecting other people.

2629
02:40:45,900 --> 02:40:49,560
You know what I think we should
send more troops to Western

2630
02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:55,350
Africa. More troops. We have
3500 there now already. And

2631
02:40:55,350 --> 02:40:59,700
Ebola never really happened.
Didn't really pop out the way we

2632
02:40:59,700 --> 02:41:03,330
expected. Not everybody died.
And now oh, well, it turns out

2633
02:41:03,330 --> 02:41:05,820
10 months later, you can still
have it and you can still and we

2634
02:41:05,820 --> 02:41:09,600
have a nurse in central London
with Ebola who's been walking

2635
02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:15,210
around visiting schools. More
trust, something's

2636
02:41:15,210 --> 02:41:16,710
up with this story. I agree with
more

2637
02:41:16,710 --> 02:41:19,590
troops. It's more troops. We've
got the pipeline, that camera

2638
02:41:19,590 --> 02:41:19,980
really, you

2639
02:41:19,980 --> 02:41:21,630
know, their neck, there's not
going to be an announcement

2640
02:41:21,630 --> 02:41:24,390
there's going to be more troops.
This will not be a news item.

2641
02:41:24,600 --> 02:41:27,840
It's going to be somewhere you
had to read stars and stripes or

2642
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:28,890
something to find it out. Well,

2643
02:41:28,890 --> 02:41:31,710
it will be a news item on your
no agenda show.

2644
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:38,910
Well, I've got two things I can
do. To finish the show off.

2645
02:41:39,210 --> 02:41:41,580
I got some great tech news,
which we'll do on Sunday.

2646
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:45,090
Sunday's tech news day got a
great tech news segment. You're

2647
02:41:45,090 --> 02:41:45,480
gonna love

2648
02:41:45,480 --> 02:41:49,320
I have, apparently, well, I'm
gonna save this. I think I want

2649
02:41:49,320 --> 02:41:52,470
to do this London story because
it's something Americans are

2650
02:41:52,470 --> 02:41:56,340
unfamiliar with. You've talked
about it. We talked about on the

2651
02:41:56,340 --> 02:42:01,140
show once in a while, that
London, the capital of the UK,

2652
02:42:02,310 --> 02:42:06,300
and the City of London as
separate a small little

2653
02:42:06,300 --> 02:42:09,270
operation inside London proper

2654
02:42:09,300 --> 02:42:12,420
has its own mayor or its own
everything right? It's a It's

2655
02:42:12,420 --> 02:42:13,200
all different

2656
02:42:13,260 --> 02:42:18,690
countries explained a little bit
to the Chinese on CCTV, because

2657
02:42:18,690 --> 02:42:23,130
apparently the City of London is
decided to do a deal with the

2658
02:42:23,130 --> 02:42:26,250
Chinese that is outside of
whatever else goes on with

2659
02:42:26,550 --> 02:42:33,180
Cameron and the rest of the UK
and they explain a little bit

2660
02:42:33,180 --> 02:42:36,600
about London as the City of
London here and I want to point

2661
02:42:36,600 --> 02:42:41,100
out to people that as this
report is is read by or

2662
02:42:41,100 --> 02:42:48,090
discussed by the chain is not a
Chinese gathering bread. When

2663
02:42:48,090 --> 02:42:52,560
you say City of London, and
London, you are talking about

2664
02:42:52,560 --> 02:42:53,760
two different things.

2665
02:42:53,940 --> 02:42:56,730
The most important speeches
President Xi will give during

2666
02:42:56,730 --> 02:43:00,120
his state visit to the UK will
be in Britain's financial

2667
02:43:00,120 --> 02:43:03,510
centre, the City of London,
which domestic has been down to

2668
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:05,730
the city to find out what they
want to hear.

2669
02:43:08,490 --> 02:43:12,270
It will be here the Guild Hall
in the ancient city of London's

2670
02:43:12,270 --> 02:43:15,330
financial centre, that the
President will be guest of

2671
02:43:15,330 --> 02:43:19,500
honour at his second banquet of
this state visit. The City of

2672
02:43:19,500 --> 02:43:23,490
London is effectively a city
state within the UK capitol,

2673
02:43:23,820 --> 02:43:27,750
boasting many of its own bylaws
and privileges dating back

2674
02:43:27,750 --> 02:43:32,610
centuries. The audience gathered
in this or gusta chamber will be

2675
02:43:32,640 --> 02:43:36,780
very much looking to the future
and clues from the President on

2676
02:43:36,810 --> 02:43:40,320
ways in which they can work with
the Chinese currency. The

2677
02:43:40,320 --> 02:43:44,970
renminbi. So I come down to the
city of London to find out what

2678
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:48,090
the President's audience hope
he'll say, and what they

2679
02:43:48,090 --> 02:43:53,040
actually anticipate. Mongolia is
the city of London's policy

2680
02:43:53,040 --> 02:43:53,640
chief,

2681
02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:57,420
I'm sure that the city will want
to hear that developments

2682
02:43:57,450 --> 02:44:00,810
between China and Britain have
been excellent over the last few

2683
02:44:00,810 --> 02:44:03,690
years, much stronger
relationships. We now have

2684
02:44:03,690 --> 02:44:08,340
London as a leading offshore
Centre for NIMBY trading. We

2685
02:44:08,340 --> 02:44:10,920
have Chinese banks rapidly
expanding in London, we have

2686
02:44:10,920 --> 02:44:14,580
investment from Chinese life
companies and other institutions

2687
02:44:14,580 --> 02:44:17,820
in London. Say we'll want to hit
acknowledgement this has all

2688
02:44:17,820 --> 02:44:20,790
been very successful. And we
want to hear that there's a bit

2689
02:44:20,790 --> 02:44:23,430
more scope for things going the
other way as well. Because

2690
02:44:23,430 --> 02:44:26,100
British institutions would like
to do much more in China, the

2691
02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:26,400
City

2692
02:44:26,400 --> 02:44:29,910
of London will be looking at
ways in which it can work more

2693
02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:34,230
closely with the Chinese in the
internationalisation of the

2694
02:44:34,230 --> 02:44:35,760
Chinese currency, the renminbi.

2695
02:44:36,360 --> 02:44:39,090
There are many city institutions
who have relationships with

2696
02:44:39,090 --> 02:44:42,480
Chinese institutions. There's
going to be a number of signing

2697
02:44:42,480 --> 02:44:46,080
ceremonies this week of
memoranda of understanding about

2698
02:44:46,080 --> 02:44:50,400
developing stronger links. The
Chinese financial system is

2699
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:54,840
undergoing significant reform.
It's very large, but it is not

2700
02:44:54,840 --> 02:44:58,170
fully internationalised. We want
to see that happen as to the

2701
02:44:58,170 --> 02:45:01,470
Chinese authorities. It's quite
is trying to have the timescale

2702
02:45:01,680 --> 02:45:05,010
and getting it right. It's not
something that's easy to do. And

2703
02:45:05,010 --> 02:45:08,610
we're very keen to work with our
Chinese counterparts on how the

2704
02:45:08,610 --> 02:45:11,550
markets can best be opened up
how there can be better

2705
02:45:11,550 --> 02:45:14,310
cooperation and collaboration.
This is going to be highly

2706
02:45:14,310 --> 02:45:16,950
beneficial, both to London and
to China.

2707
02:45:17,730 --> 02:45:21,420
If they can pull it off working
with China, and the Chinese

2708
02:45:21,420 --> 02:45:25,620
currency, the renminbi should
help cement the city of London's

2709
02:45:25,620 --> 02:45:29,730
role as Europe's and arguably
the world's Paramount financial

2710
02:45:29,730 --> 02:45:33,270
centre. It all depends, of
course, on what the President

2711
02:45:33,300 --> 02:45:38,760
has to say. Richard bestech,
CCTV in the City of London, your

2712
02:45:38,760 --> 02:45:40,380
analysis, Mr. Devore. Ek

2713
02:45:41,430 --> 02:45:49,230
was my analysis, something's up.
Outstanding not being reported

2714
02:45:49,230 --> 02:45:53,370
anywhere. Now. He goes, he goes
to the UK and he goes to London,

2715
02:45:53,550 --> 02:45:57,060
and he has a meetings and he has
the big state dinner, then he

2716
02:45:57,060 --> 02:46:00,450
has a second state dinner in
this. And they showed this place

2717
02:46:00,450 --> 02:46:03,840
a gilded hall or whatever it's
called gilded right where a

2718
02:46:03,840 --> 02:46:08,190
beautiful, huge I know, and it's
right in the city of London,

2719
02:46:08,190 --> 02:46:10,680
he's going to have a dinner
there. And this is like, going

2720
02:46:10,680 --> 02:46:14,460
to is like going to you know,
real. This is the real deal when

2721
02:46:14,460 --> 02:46:17,370
it comes to like this shadow
government sort of thing. Right.

2722
02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:21,390
And this has to do I believe
with the grading. I think

2723
02:46:21,390 --> 02:46:24,570
they're starting to free I think
the world financers especially

2724
02:46:24,570 --> 02:46:27,900
the Brits, even though they're
our buddies, I think they're

2725
02:46:27,900 --> 02:46:31,560
freaking out a little bit about
the where we're going with $1 in

2726
02:46:31,560 --> 02:46:36,000
some of these schemes and
sending all these refugees over

2727
02:46:36,000 --> 02:46:40,740
to Europe, and I think they're
getting a little I think they're

2728
02:46:41,490 --> 02:46:43,470
getting tired of us. I think we

2729
02:46:43,470 --> 02:46:46,770
can well, not only that, but but
we've beaten them down. I mean,

2730
02:46:46,770 --> 02:46:53,160
Deutsche Bank is on the brink of
collapse. All the all the the

2731
02:46:53,160 --> 02:46:57,510
European banks, they're all
screwed. The regulation is no

2732
02:46:57,510 --> 02:47:01,710
longer beneficial. No, and I
think I was going to say that

2733
02:47:01,740 --> 02:47:05,970
the main thing is as strange as
it sounds, the main thing that

2734
02:47:06,000 --> 02:47:10,050
that needs to happen right now
is this T tip. You know, the TPP

2735
02:47:10,290 --> 02:47:14,100
which I guess is fast track
this, it'll it'll it'll happen

2736
02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:16,710
is going to happen. Well,
everybody's yelling New World

2737
02:47:16,710 --> 02:47:20,730
Order. When when that happens.
That is going to turn America

2738
02:47:20,730 --> 02:47:27,960
back into powerhouse. We we need
to be able to produce and send

2739
02:47:27,960 --> 02:47:31,470
things for free over to other
countries. And it's going to be

2740
02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:34,740
the only way the dollar I think
consistent can be sustainable is

2741
02:47:34,740 --> 02:47:39,030
not going to be on oil anymore.
What else could it be? It's like

2742
02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:41,370
new, it's just musical chairs.
Everyone's running around.

2743
02:47:41,970 --> 02:47:44,490
Well, they're definitely freaked
out. I don't know how you see

2744
02:47:44,490 --> 02:47:50,070
it, but, but I see it similarly.
I do know that we're always

2745
02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:52,920
scheming and we're always got
the best ideas and so far as

2746
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:57,480
this is all concerned, we've got
it. I mean, we always come out

2747
02:47:57,480 --> 02:48:01,200
at the winner. Yeah, we'll see
that changing anytime soon. You

2748
02:48:01,200 --> 02:48:05,010
know why? America my friend
Merica.

2749
02:48:06,780 --> 02:48:10,470
And we just it's hard to say why
could be

2750
02:48:10,500 --> 02:48:14,730
we're America. All the smart
bankers know that. We're the

2751
02:48:14,730 --> 02:48:15,480
ones to back.

2752
02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:20,550
I would. Yes.

2753
02:48:22,230 --> 02:48:24,000
Okay, I am going to

2754
02:48:25,410 --> 02:48:27,810
collapse. Yeah, it sounds like
it.

2755
02:48:27,930 --> 02:48:31,440
Yeah, it's never been this bad.
That's really affected my voice

2756
02:48:31,440 --> 02:48:32,070
but there you go.

2757
02:48:32,160 --> 02:48:34,740
Well, I actually didn't you got
through it pretty well. I think

2758
02:48:34,740 --> 02:48:38,670
if nobody ever heard the show,
and they wouldn't think you were

2759
02:48:38,670 --> 02:48:41,910
sick. Well, and you did a good
job of covering up most of your

2760
02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:44,700
coughing and gagging Yes. And
there was a lot of it. Believe

2761
02:48:44,700 --> 02:48:46,890
me. You didn't have you don't
have a button. No. Do you?

2762
02:48:46,920 --> 02:48:51,300
Yeah, I do. It's just not a not
easy to reach. Oh, but final

2763
02:48:51,300 --> 02:48:55,050
news Caitlyn Jenner. Glamour
magazine's Woman of the Year.

2764
02:48:57,180 --> 02:49:01,410
We're all gonna die. Coming to
you from FEMA Region six.

2765
02:49:01,980 --> 02:49:05,910
Downtown Austin Tejas, the
crackpot condo. In the morning,

2766
02:49:05,910 --> 02:49:07,470
everybody. I'm Adam curry and

2767
02:49:07,470 --> 02:49:10,980
from Northern Silicon Valley
where we don't have mould. Well,

2768
02:49:10,980 --> 02:49:14,310
we do but it's not dead mould.
On John C. Dvorak,

2769
02:49:14,310 --> 02:49:16,140
and we'll be back on Sunday.
Please remember us at

2770
02:49:16,140 --> 02:49:22,470
dvorak.org/na We are your no
agenda. Until then. Adios mofos

2771
02:49:29,700 --> 02:49:34,380
and now it's time for a three by
three. Experiment by JC

2772
02:49:35,490 --> 02:49:38,190
comparing story from ABC CBS

2773
02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:55,740
three is going to have to

2774
02:49:55,740 --> 02:49:59,670
see a different man when the
ocean rises just this one. This

2775
02:49:59,670 --> 02:50:04,320
whole thing Are you that's what
you gotta get your heads around

2776
02:50:09,000 --> 02:50:25,260
certainly doesn't make me feel
good in the tank by 3333 out OH

2777
02:50:25,260 --> 02:50:40,380
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO Oh

2778
02:50:40,380 --> 02:50:40,710
no, no,

2779
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:44,490
no no not at all. And wash your
hands after touching any raw

2780
02:50:44,490 --> 02:50:53,010
meat. Adios mopho.org/n

2781
02:50:53,070 --> 02:50:53,520
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