Nothing says I'm Muslim like running around naked. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, April 16 2015. Time
for your give a nation media assassination episode 713.
This is no agenda.
Celebrating nine years of not winning and broadcasting live
from the West Wing of Grand Duke David Foley's High Roller sweet
and FEMA Region nine in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where the High Roller suites
consists of looking over garbage cans. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.
Take two.
We have garbage day today. Yeah. And I had to go running down
there because I don't know. The guy one truck comes by and
knocks the other cans over.
And do they have a second truck that comes by to pick it up?
There's three cans, three trucks and they expect to canopy
standing. Anyway,
so I'm here in the High Roller suite of Sir David Foley, Grand
Duke of the USA who kindly notified me that that he had an
entire West Wing available here in the Cosmopolitan Hotel.
Did you did that save you money? Or did you have
no completely got a complete refund on the hotel? Good. Yeah.
And then so stayed here for free. He took care of me. They
actually served Jean Baron, the Marriott sheriff of Texas was
also here. And he's also been taking care of me just like he's
in the
suite. You
know, he's in Vegas, he's not in the suite.
So next thing would be Mike Tyson would be in this
for the tiger. Hey. Yeah, but it's I got here to Tuesday
afternoon and the National Association of Broadcasters here
along with the New Media Expo and the 10th annual Podcast
Awards. And I decided it was it made a lot more sense to stay
and do the show from here and after we restarted the show.
Because it was so atrocious on the hotel Wi Fi I'm on the I'm
on Verizon on the on the LTE is. It's pretty funny how
when I check into a hotel like that, Well Chris, you you're
stuck, you're in that room. So you don't have a choice. But I
always ask this if there's a room with a wired connection.
It's fine to have Wi Fi and these things be sketchy. So I
connected to there is Ethernet here and I connected to it. It's
same, same crap. Makes it because I have a little router I
have a mini router that I carry everywhere and plugged it into
the Ethernet. So I had my own little sub network and it was
just crap. I don't know how they get away.
They didn't hold on and say that's the Cosmopolitan Hotel.
Yeah. That's what like one
of the newest places in Vegas. Yeah. Four years old or
something, I think. Yeah.
And they can't have good connectivity. It's ridiculous.
It's pathetic. It's pathetic. Anyway, but I have news.
Guess what? What we didn't
win. Oh, like we knew that before the event occurred?
Yeah. And I there's no way to nuance it. But these Podcast
Awards, this is the 10th year and it's not the same people who
were organizing it this year was podcast one, which is very
strange to me. As podcasting started out as completely
independent, and podcast one is norm Pattis. Who started
Westwood one.
Yeah, he thinks he can. Well, this is the thing you've talked
about a lot. Sometimes you've talked about it off the air
where we've discussed this, you have this. And I'm all in with
your thesis on this. And of course, you've been doing it
longer than anyone that these networks are crazy. The idea of
a network of network of podcasts is is kind of nuts.
The I think I've proved very successfully. The only thing
about pod show that was successful as we prove that
network of shows doesn't work. It just doesn't work. And
let's explain to some people why it doesn't work.
The reason why it doesn't work is well first of all, podcasting
has a an inherent issue of measurement. So how many people
listen, and you know, just like we've seen banner ads and other
types of advertising. Online, there is no central organization
like Nielsen or Arbitron for radio, who are of the, you know,
the God given word of this is this is what it is. Of course,
when it comes to television ratings, we don't actually know
if someone watched the show or if they walked away during the
commercials or took a leak or we don't know that but it doesn't
matter because the Nielsen ratings are there and proof that
that's your number. And it's just an industry standard. So we
have a number of different people trying to be that.
Interestingly, Nielsen is trying to do that themselves but they
They are not seen as an authority. And there's just too
many questions, you know,
we'll do is it isn't one of the problems for Nielsen or anybody
tries to get into that game for podcasting is the sheer number
of podcasts A, and the low number of listeners to any one
of them be?
Well, we don't even know what it all is. Hi all asterisks. Yeah.
Yeah, that I'll be below 1.0, or what is 0.5? Or whatever it is.
Yeah, true. True. But this, you need a central authority
regardless, you just need a central source. So it's not
there. The when it comes to a network, which I ran, one of the
podcasts was doing exactly the same. They've hired a number of
people to do their show and have it exclusively, I guess, on
podcast, one, they have their own app. And, you know, this is
the bet it's like, I'm seeing history repeat itself. And then
they're being paid a, you know, probably a, from what I
understand the salary that they can get by on, and that's going
to be a few, and the people who are on the network but aren't
getting paid, they're going to be incredibly painful. Just like
the Uber pool, or the Uber pop drivers, they're gonna be
complaining all the time. And there's always bad blood, oh, I
didn't get promoted on the homepage. You don't care about
me, I didn't get in on that advertise. It doesn't work. It
just doesn't work. And you can get critical mass. The only
thing that seems to work is if you there's two things that seem
to work in show, like Leo does, which by the way, I have to say
for all the arguments we have, he does those in show reads
really well. He convinces you
your theory is simple, which is the only reason twit network
does as well as it does because actually, Leo is a fantastic
pitchman, one
of the best I've ever seen. Yeah. And I agree with that.
It's really incredible how he does that. But you know, just
adds, I think the way Serial podcast does it is when you
start the show, there's a read right there. So when someone
fires up the show, it's kind of hard to miss. But you know, that
doesn't scale, you can't have five of them. And let's be
honest, when twit starts in this three minutes before the show
go, I'm fast forwarding. I'm not listening to that. It's okay. I
know what's happening here. Brought to you by brought to you
by advertising in general is in this medium is complicated, I
think. And then there's the inventory issue, which is what
I've always said, the reason why the Super Bowl charges over a
million dollars for a spot is because there's only so much
time. So you have a
scarcity. Yeah, it's like a real estate in Hong Kong. Yeah. It's
not
like they're gonna build some new overnight. But with banner
ads or anything, you know, there's no, there's never a
scarcity just make more. Just make more banner ads, make more
pages more podcasts, there's no way there's no scarcity so you
can't get the price high enough. So then everyone has to resort
to per inquiry, as we call it, or you will use a code and
you're going to have a loyalist group. And I think that's where
you know, some networks do okay? Because you can prove that
someone used the code to purchase a service. So that that
is pretty much the only way. But it matters not. Because let's
get back to the Podcast Awards. Even though we didn't win, we
were nominated in two categories. And actually, I was
called out as Oh, he's here. I was so embarrassing.
Sorry. Yes. Ladies and gentlemen. Up For Adam curry.
Yeah, it's
like, oh, this is year 10. Boy, the first year the only people
here on stage random curry and Wolfman Jack. Oh, boy, that was
really funny. It probably would have been if it was Dennis
Miller, who was slated to host the awards with Emily from sex
with Emily, who we know from the pod show days that he probably
even if he slammed me wish he would have that would have been
funny. But he all of a sudden he was not on the the bill. He was
hosting the award bailed out. I don't know maybe because they
they didn't even do a run through man. This was so
pathetic. And I felt bad for for Chris Jericho and Emily Morris.
I think her name is I feel bad. Now they were really struggling.
And of course the room was filled the room was too big
there was only half full with people with tables.
Always a mistake. And you know, you want your room to be too
small and overflowing.
And the only people there were nominees. And so there's a I
have a couple of theories on why we didn't win. Certainly what
was interesting to see was Brian Brushwood who won with night
attack and he accepted the award for Tom Merritt for the daily
tech news show. And when he went up, he said, you know, hey, you
know, we went independent, we went independent and He kept
mentioning that and then of course, this is not a jury of
your or a jury of your peers who are selecting these every single
category is a People's Choice Award. And the it seems pretty
obvious to me that because of the rift between people who left
the twit network that there was a lot of incentive for people to
say, I will show that guy will show them who really wins. Yeah,
I think there was an element of that, that element of bots.
Yeah. The Bots and then voting. Yeah. And then the via why we
didn't win that my theory is very simple as libertarians just
don't vote so by our audience, just I don't think I think a lot
of people didn't vote we also didn't completely go half.
And did you vote? Once? Well, there you have it, Abacus. I
can't vote more than you can't vote more than once. I've that
didn't have, you can
vote once a day.
Oh, no. There you go. How does? How does that make sense?
It doesn't make sense. Alright, so you have the fanatics that
you know, love Tom and hate the fact that Leo fired him. Yeah.
And or quit or we don't know, doesn't matter. And it doesn't
matter. And so they would all vote once a day. And the
problem? I think it would, you'd have in some ways. With the show
like ours, if everyone was all in it was voting once a day,
that would probably give him the moral license is in tribute to
his his show in ways that are meaningful to the show's future,
which is donating.
I think you're spot on with that. People have a moral self
license, and I'm okay with that. In this case. You know, the
Yeah, I support the show. I don't need the vote. It, it
would just it would have been nice because I had a speech
which would have been fantastic.
You add a speech course just in case something.
Oh, that's That's bad luck.
No, no, it's not bad. But I can tell you this with that award,
particular award show. You could have just given the speech. Just
take the thank you part out.
There you go. It was nice meeting Sargent. Fred, he was
there. He's always representing the no agenda show. Then handed
out to double nickels on the dime on the spot met his lovely
daughter and her fiance Matt. And so that was that was admit a
lot of people was oh, I finally met Jennifer Briney. From a
congressional righty. She was texting you. Have you ever met
her? No. She wants to have lunch with you. And she asked me if if
I thought that you would accept if that would be okay.
Yeah, she's living over here in Oakland. So it's very easy to do
in the hood. She was
so she's fired. She's she's
in this ritzy. This is funny, because she told me this an
email that she's in. I know where she's in some part of town
that is all new and built up. It's nothing like normal
Oakland. Uh huh. It's kind of the elites. Oh, really? Okay,
guys, kind of.
So let me tell you about her. Super cute.
Yeah, she makes sense. She sounds cute. She's 511 Oh, no,
she doesn't sound fine. Oh,
and she was wearing a Japanese schoolgirl outfit. Yes. With the
knee socks and the and the plaid. Skirt and the what are
the shoes?
Yeah, those shoes.
What are they called? Is it Mary Jane's or something?
What they're called. Like,
it's the same one that that Feinstein was talking about when
when she mentioned her head is gone. Which I had to keep
thinking of that when I was talking to her like this is
strange. But besides that, of course, the National Association
of Broadcasters convention was on so this is a this really is
all about gear and technology and I did
great it's one of the best shows in there are because it not for
the I mean, there's a lot of good stuff on the floor. You can
go I had for example, this is my last year. So I went to the
country man booth.
Oh yeah. I saw I went to the country man booth as well. Yeah.
And country men are those little microphones that people have
that over a year almost invisible colored head and they
go over your ear and they come around did a cool on for your
butthole too. So I had one of the founders kids who obviously
works there all the time. I told him that when I wear these
things they can flop and off. And so he showed me how to put
one on properly. And the kicker to me was this little factoid
when put on absolutely property a properly the microphone head
is actually pushed against your cheek
and it's very annoying.
It's not but it's not what the thing is annoying is the watch
people that have it. So it's like a little bitty boom mic.
That's not what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be up
against your cheek. Yeah.
Okay, so a couple of I've wrote I had took some notes and I
wrote down a few things about the about the show itself. First
of all, this was new for me while walking through the halls,
every 10 or 15 minutes or so, all of a sudden there would be
this very distinct odor of patchouli oil.
Actually,
yeah, and I was walking with the with the Grand Duke, and I said,
Dude, are you actually wearing patchouli oil? He's like, No, I
thought it was you know, no. And it was really strange. And and I
maybe it maybe just thought it was patchouli oil, maybe it's
that you know, been Vegas. They're well known for pumping
all kinds of scents into the air, and over oxygenating and
stuff like that. I have no idea. Maybe someone in our audience
may know what's what's going on with that. Something that was
new that I didn't that I've never really why don't go to
trade shows pretty much ever. When you walk up to a booth. And
you have your badge, which has your name and stuff in a little
QR code. Every single booth there will be a booth babe. And
I say this because no guys were there. It was just booth babes.
And they'll be Hi. And then they aim this device at my chest with
a red bow. What are you doing?
They started this a few years. I don't
like you aiming anything that turns red on my on my clothes.
You know, I have a dot phobia. Please don't do this. He's very
rude.
It's a grocery scanner. Yeah, yeah. But the way they ask I'd
never seen him do that we've done volunteer on involuntarily,
mostly. So can I scan your badge? They usually say
something. I don't know why they weren't saying anything to you.
Because generally, I think it's frowned upon to just take the
take the information, I presume
that this has been going on so long that people are just used
to it. And everyone seems to be okay with it. But I found that
to be aggressive. I don't know, I just didn't. I
thought if you don't like it doing that I
was turning your badge over.
You got your badge on your you take your right hand and quickly
put it over the badge and then yell nine.
I've resorted to my typical punch in the gut. This is what I
always do. Nine nice Scanlon is one of mine fire out to Luke. A
tip that I learned a tip maybe you already didn't know this.
But a tip if you're ever at a convention in lost wages. And
this is a tip from the Grand Duke. You do not want to wait
for cabs. And of course, there's no Uber here. There's no Uber in
Vegas. Which is,
yeah, I've never I've never gone to Vegas without renting a car.
And where do you park near the convention center.
There's a little hotel that's on one of the streets that will
allow you to park in there a lot of for a fee of 10 bucks.
So if you go week, by the way, if you go behind the convention
center, there are very depressing looking apartments.
And all the residents during the convention, remove their own
cars and they pulled together and they put one guy out and you
park in their parking spots. And it's literally right behind me.
You can see the right behind the loading dock. Yeah, hundreds of
spaces. This hotel
is just as close. And it's very few people under know this
because they don't advertise that you just drive you drive
into the little opening and you say guy, can I get a spot for
the day or week, and then they give you a tag and you just
drive in as a fantastic. Fantastic. I know you never you
always have to rent a car and you always have to rent a car in
Vegas because it is impossible to get a cab and you look like
an idiot standing in these lines that are miles long. And the
buses are just the just fall Yeah. And then that night you
have it's cold. It's cold at
night. It's cold. It cans
now.
Now here's the thing that blew me away was the drone pavilion.
This year. The drones were everywhere. But the drone they
had just must have been 50 booths all about drones demos
with big nets up to the ceiling, but they were drones John I
should say quad copters
will mostly I want to stop here and mention to people that are
wondering why? It's because the Hollywood and broadcasters both
used camera drones for some of their shots of for news and
other things, sports events, all kinds of sports events. So the
drones took I remember first seeing drones at NAB maybe five
or six years ago, or maybe even longer, but there weren't that
many there's like the one or two it's very expensive ones use for
Hollywood. And then ces started getting drones into their show
and now these guys picked up the pace I think they're gonna wipe
see Yes out from the drone wire.
Oh I'm sure. And but payloads huge, like the big camera
because the, if you can call her wingspan on these quad copters
from one arm to the other six feet, six feet and redundant
rotors, the rotors must have been a foot long each. Someone's
gonna get killed one of these days. Oh yeah, it's gonna chop
an arm off or a head or something like that head if it's
a head it'd be good. And it was just I was blown away by these
things. These are dangerous you can't have this crap fly flying
around the sky. Very dangerous, very dangerous. If I when I saw
the when I saw the rotors that were propellers or you would
call the rotors these are lethal weapons and not enclosed or
anything just loose and the bed should be caged and how heavy
teeth I should have gotten some brochures. But even if this
thing just falls on your head, you're dead. You're dead. You're
dead. This is this is a big thing that's flying around. So
whenever and then I have a tip for everybody. A tip if you're
in Vegas, have you ever John been to Cabos restaurant?
Which restaurant is that
capos? It's me. Where's it? I don't know. It's I may have been
there. You can find it on the Google. So you bounced. It's a
it's a grungy looking place. You'd be walking in you ring the
bell. And then a little not where you ring the bell. What
looks like a door but then there's kind of a wall all of a
sudden, the painting moves away, the door opens and the guy goes,
Yeah, what do you want? How many of us, what's your name? And
it's like a gangster restaurant. And then you go in the door
closes and it's complete with a crooner at the piano. It's like
you're in gangster Ville.
Is that that space? Right near the convention center
is I really don't know. I do not know. Cabos
called Cabo speakeasy.
Yes. That's the one that's the way it
was set up that way. Yeah.
That was really all the waiters got, you know, like Brooklyn
slash New Jersey attitude accents. The there's, there's
there's actors just sitting at the bar. Go Hey, how you doing?
How you doing? I have a good experience. I liked it very
much. It was cool. Yeah. And then of course, I just want to
thank Todd Cochran he was really nice see him Dave Jackson,
everybody else who, who popped up on the scene. Good to see
everybody. Especially Jen. My goodness. She's single she was
probably thrilled to see you. She's a huge fan.
Yes, I think so.
But she's she's even our politics are completely the
opposite of your you think? Yeah, I think
she's very happy that she's on the on the stream and everything
that we'd like you to do.
She's good. She has a good product.
I think at pretty much this. There's some work that needs to
be done, but otherwise no outstanding product as far as
I'm concerned. So that was it. And then I'll fly back tonight.
Why did you go to this thing?
Because it was actually Christina. Who said Dad, you're
single we can sit around with your hand in your pants like Al
Bundy go go to Vegas? I think she threw a party at the at the
apartments exactly
what she gets
out of the house. We already got a pole Yeah, we're
good to go hang the doobies Yeah, got the poll. Yeah, let's
do it. That's
party Yeah,
that's you get back you'll see because I think that I was so
red but burns all over the place. I was so petrified of
stale here.
We'll see. We'll see. So I think she was right you know as good
as it gets the your your neurons are firing the you're in a
different place stuff is happening.
Yeah, sometimes you gotta get out. Yeah, I think so. Of course
when you left you're lucky you didn't get robbed because play
the clip. Airport thefts.
Hold on a second.
Which is the one I wanted to play last time.
Here we go airport theft.
I know you love traveling. So check this out. You're about to
see video of baggage thieves caught red handed flipping
through rifling through luggage to problem a nationwide and it's
not just about stopping theft. Drew Griffin with our partners
at CNN reports.
These are airport baggage handlers. Thieves inside the
belly of a plane rifling through passengers bags. What are they
looking for? The valuables that you pack that you thought would
be safe. But in never before seen video obtained by CNN.
Undercover cameras and the police are catching the baggage
handlers in the act. Stealing on planes and In supposedly secure
areas of the airport, the video even caught a security guard
apparently in the air. My reaction to seeing those videos
is really discussed. It's pretty incredible, isn't it? The video
comes from a sting set up by Miami Dade police to stop a rash
of fifths 31 ramp workers and baggage handlers have been
arrested since 2012. Caught on Camera, red handed, and when you
catch them, catch them in the act like you did on these
videos. What's the response? A lot of times there is no
response other than shocked that they were caught. And that's
okay with us. There's many of them that we can take away off
of the airfield, the better it is for everybody that travels
through my international airport, but it's certainly not
just happening in Miami. A CNN analysis finds over the past
five years and nearly 31,000 Passenger claims of items
missing from luggage filed with the TSA. About 25,000 of those
claims alleged valuables missing from checked bags. The rest they
disappeared from a TSA checkpoint 513 TSA officers have
been fired for theft since 2002. Including one who had stolen
items in this secret compartment. It adds up to $2.5
million worth of passenger belongings gone
you know what galls me? You probably also heard about these
two TSA agents who were fired because they had set up with a
female agent when good looking guys would walk through the
array go through the scan talked
about we talked about on the last show do we did
I don't remember that. Yeah,
I better get the guy than a boy you get you something's wrong.
You're nuts.
Excuse me nut check here, sir, if you don't mind. But what
galls me is they just get fired. Now these people are part of
Department of Homeland Security. These are they need to go to
jail. They these people who used to be really prosecuted. I have
no no How can I have any trust in these Goombas
I agree 100% They should all be jailed, because if they're
working national security job, and they're failing to do what
they're supposed to do, and then they're actually abusing their
powers. They should be in jail. Yeah, that's the people you
know, jail. Somebody smoking dope. No.
And but this of course, in some way, I believe there is. There's
an attack going on on Johnson witness the gyrocopter that
landed on the lawn of the yes in fact, I have a clip. Yeah, good
because I was here it wasn't able to get a clip. What do you
have? Where's, where's it
Gyrocopter? I don't know gyro story is actually an auto.
Thank you. You're ahead of you're ahead of me.
The US Capitol had a brief security scare today when a
gyrocopter landed on the west lawn. The single seed helicopter
unsettled about a half a city block the Capitol building.
Police quickly cordoned it off at a bomb disposal unit found
nothing hazardous. The website of a Florida mailman Doug Hughes
announced he carried out the stunt to protest political
corruption.
So a couple of things. First of all, this is not a helicopter,
it does not function like a helicopter auto gyro is the
correct term. Then what coincidentally, I've been
looking into auto gyros for a while because the new ones this
one we call a broomstick. That is the that is the aviation
slang terminology for the auto gyro and it looks like a
broomstick. Like the guys flying a broomstick. The the new ones
have a side by side seating, carbon fiber enclosed cockpit
air conditioning. And you know even with the air conditioner,
yeah, you can still get 100 knots and it's very efficient,
you can put these things in your garage is very, very nice. And
they know you can lease them for about the price of a car these
days. And I think they're very, they're actually incredibly
safe. Because you are sorry,
I question that because my understanding is that the auto
gyro even though they used to be very popular in like the 70s 70s
because you could fly you could fly you could drive around some
of the agricultural areas and you'd find these guys goofing
around racing each other in these things over fields. And
they're pretty cool and they they're very maneuverable. And
and well you can explain how they work but essentially you
have a kind of a helicopter like wing that's not hooked to
anything just kind of supports it's like an airfoil and over
the top of these things and once they get spinning, they fly
around like like a regular airplane. But I keep hearing
that they're extremely dangerous and people were most people used
to fly them are all dead.
Now, I'm sorry, that's just not true. So with a helicopter,
where the rotor and tail rotor are powered, should your engine
fail, then you immediately and depending on the type of
helicopter, you have half a second to while in like an
extreme, you can have seven seconds, but that's a different
type of machine. But let's say up to about a second to put it
into auto rotation, which is like a maple. Is it a maple
leaf? That if you see a maple leaf model, is that a maple?
What am I thinking of that that floats down to twirls down to
the ground? I don't know how to Maple. Anyway. So with the auto
gyro, you're constantly in auto right rotation. So even if your
engine quits, then you can, nothing will change, you just
you're going to have to land. But you don't have to do any
quick maneuvering to get into auto rotation. You're in auto
rotational already. So the chances of you landing fine are
much greater.
I have now I have a question that just came to mind while you
describe the auto rotation thing in a regular helicopter, which
is the disengaging from the engines. Why isn't this done
automatically by computer? Yeah,
well, why don't we get into that? Well, you want to go right
into that I actually I do have may play a quick clip from MSNBC
because it's galled me when I heard this. This is Alex Wagner.
This, this woman who has her show and she has a panel. And it
was very strange to hear how they treated this. What I would
call almost a part of the six week cycle cluster. Certainly
because it was known the guy had called ahead he did interviews
with a newspaper he told everyone was going to do it he
was interviewed by the cops interviewed by Secret Service.
Oh and guess what then he did it. Ben please this is insulting
and here's how MSNBC respond. Is this
a Christopher Lloyd who did he plan Back to the Future and camp
dot doc invention or is that actually something USPS has
Yeah, I have no idea I use
he allowed to use it.
Breaking all kinds of rules like
campus official Gyrocopter.
I will say I think there is something great though I don't
encourage people to break federal law. Citizens he was
trying to deliver a load of letters to congressional
representatives to get to that get the message to them.
Great PR stunt we're talking about it, but I bet you this guy
is going to be under surveillance for a long time.
Like that. He did try and call the Secret Service like Hey,
it's me the gyrocopter thing.
Services radar,
Gyrocopter.
So funny, eight holes
stupid like a chicken hen house.
So let me get to your question because this is very relevant
for some other really poorly reported news about the night
even saw a tweet from you. The news is and I have here's a this
is a fantastic report from Jake Tapper on CNN who had who did
not have Richard Quest as the CNN aviation expert.
Interestingly enough, there's not his car. He couldn't get his
boots off. The dildo is in the way, Google him to figure out
what that's about. Some girl, I'll just call her a girl who is
clearly completely oblivious to aviation, and didn't even read
the report. This is a GAO at a General Accounting Office. This
is an oversight organization who released a report about not
about planes being hacked, know about the next generation
aviation system which we have been talking about for several
years. And this is the computerization of aviation
across the board. And I'll let me play this little bit because
it's just too funny. All the mistakes and the bullcrap that
is coming out of this woman's mouth and alarming
government watchdog report released just minutes ago,
exposing flaws in newer airliners computer systems on
board, the report says could be hacked causing a major system
failure or potentially even crash. CNN aviation
correspondent Rene Marsh joins me now. Renee, I have to say
this sounds rather terrifying.
It certainly does. I mean, report here and it's a whole 56
pages long. It's by the GAO and essentially what they are saying
is there is a serious cybersecurity concern that the
FAA really needs to address. One of the vulnerabilities that they
point out here are the ultra modern aircraft, we're talking
about aircrafts that are highly automated, and the issue that
they find here is that someone with just a laptop could
possibly hack the aircraft. asked from either on board or on
the ground. Again, all you would need is a laptop and a Wi Fi
Connect. Okay.
I have to say I failed to I saw this clip I failed for some
reason failed to grab it. I think I didn't. I didn't
transfer this is a great bullcrap clip.
Yes. And I. So I pulled up the report, the 56 rule, 56 pages,
and what so you'll hear this this story has now become a
meme. With a Wi Fi connection and a laptop, you can crash the
airplane. And I read all 56 pages the report by the way,
it's titled FAA. So the air traffic control FAA needs a more
comprehensive approach to address cybersecurity as agency
transitions to next gen. M in the on the first page this is
all these people read the first page, there is one paragraph
that says that this is what her entire what the entire story is
based on is just one paragraph from report that is about
something completely different. Modern aircraft are increasingly
connected to the internet. This interconnectedness can
potentially provide unauthorized remote access to aircraft
avionics systems potentially, as part of the aircraft
certification process. FAA is Office of Safety currently
certifies new interconnected systems through rules for
specific aircraft and started reviewing rules for certifying
the cybersecurity of all new aircraft systems. That is pretty
much all they say about the so called Hacking, because this
entire report is about the next gen aviation system. Let me play
a little bit more of her bullcrap report as you're
supposed to be really afraid of flying? And then I'll tell you
what's really in the report and why you should be very afraid of
flying.
No, it's a little counterintuitive. What about the
older planes? Are they as vulnerable?
Well, when we talk about the more modern planes, they are
more connected to the internet. So it makes them a lot more
vulnerable to Facebook, like cybersecurity experts as well as
aviation experts. And these people essentially told them
that when you have such highly automated systems on an aircraft
connected to the internet, it's like a flying router. No, no,
you know, hackers can get stuff,
I have that title, title, show title flying router, lying, or
it's like a flying router, everybody. This is this is
propaganda that is so messed
up into your personal computer. So if an aircraft is made up of
nothing, but computers, it's just going to make it that much
more vulnerable. Anything from getting around the firewall to
possibly if you're on board, some of these modern aircraft
and you have a USB plugin, you may even be able to get access
that way.
Or USB plugin, so let's just let's all plug in my USB, and
then use my flying router. Fine tap into
the flying right. So what they're saying is because you
have an internet system, which is you know, operated by, what
is it go go in a Go Go internet or whatever these things are
called that that somehow is connected to the avionics
computers, which means you can get it you can breach some
magical firewall because of course, the avionics are
connected to the internet. Of course they are. Yeah, makes
nothing but sense. Currently, no, they're not. And this way
you can get in you can hack in and then you can crash the plane
or do whatever you want.
This is an extension of the auto mobiel hack. Yeah. Oh, it's yes.
Oh, same bogus over the car you stopped, hit the brakes remotely
on your laptop somehow.
Continue with the report. And then I want to look at this,
this actual document what
makes the Fed so sure that a hacker could could compromise an
aircraft system on the ground? Or on board? What are they
basing their analysis on?
Well, I guess they are saying that they are talking to they're
talking to aviation experts. They're talking to cybersecurity
experts. However, they made very clear that they haven't done any
actual testing or mock up of these scenarios. Now, here's
what these experts say could essentially happen using a
laptop, someone could take control of an aircraft, they
could put a virus onto the aircraft computer systems. They
can even jeopardize the flight by taking control of the planes
computers and lastly, they say they could take over the warning
systems and the navigational systems. These systems are
extremely critical.
Alright, let's talk about this for a moment because the experts
who are not named by the way in the report, they are saying
something completely different because I've highlighted a
couple of things in this report. I just want to run through them
real quick. You can find them on the show notes. 713 dot no
agenda notes.com. This is about the next generation air
transport tation system next gen, which we know they've been
trying to implement this and get this going for a long time. And
the idea behind next gen is, and we already talked about this on
a previous show, now, we have a DSB. So aircraft are
transmitted, the ones that are outfitted with with this type of
transponder, which used to just give a number of numerical code
and a identifier which aircraft they are. Now there's a lot more
data coming out. And the concept is to have these all aircraft
talking to each other and including all the ground
systems. And then in that will indeed be hooked into avionics,
the system. So that you you have less likelihood of not less
likelihood of air mid air collisions, which are very, very
rare. But really, it's to make the transport system more
efficient. So because computers are controlling things, air
quotes I'm doing hear that you can get closer to each other
because you'll know the exact distances and there will be some
control on the ground. Now, what happened with this report, is
they talk about the protocol for the next generation system will
be Internet Protocol, which is not the same as being connected
to the internet. We have to be very, very clear about this.
This was requested by Congress and cyber here's what they say
in the report. Cyber based threats to Federal Information
Systems are evolving and growing. These threats can come
from many sources, including criminals and other adversarial
groups, foreign nations terrorists and insiders. By the
way, if you got an insider, you're screwed no matter what.
Further the growing intercut interconnectivity among
Information Systems presents increasing opportunities for
cyber attacks. Next Gen increases reliance on integrated
information systems and distributed distribution of
information, digital communication methods and Global
Positioning Systems Technology, they may put the ATC system at
greater risk for intentional or unintentional information,
system failures and breaches. Correct. But this has nothing to
do with you hacking through you're connected to the bio, you
can't even begin barely even get 100 kilobits of bandwidth on
most of these things. But somehow you're going to be able
to breach this network, which is, as far as I know, not
connected to any of the other avionics. But when the media
when the press read Internet Protocol, ah, well, of course,
it's connected to the internet, and therefore, it's going to be
a big problem this report is worth viewing. Because here's
here's Yes.
This to me is a classic example of reporters who don't know
anything. No, not at all. It's got nothing to wear. I mean, it
has obviously something to do with the internet because the
Internet uses it. But it is a protocol. It is not a
connectivity. Yes. I mean, you can I mean, excuse me, private
networks for IP telephony, for example. Many of them are
private. I mean, yes, we have an IP network that is what it is
it's a network that's based on IP Internet protocol but it's
not it's not it's not hooked to the internet itself. Allow me to
raise the a lot of phone calls today are made with IP
telephony. So here's
here's the actual language. According to the FAA, the shift
to next gen technologies will require FAA to replace this
proprietary, relatively isolated ATC computer systems with
information systems that interoperate and share data
through FAA operations and those of its aviation partners, it
will use IP networking technologies. It will also
employ digital and internet based computer networking
technologies, exposing the air traffic control system to new
cybersecurity risks. So while and by the way, this what's
going to be connected is surveillance and broadcast
services, collaborative air traffic management, common
support services, which like weather data, data,
communications, voice communication system wide
information management, all things that can I think can be
relatively safe on the aircraft itself. However, this is the
biggest mistake that is going to be made in aviation history.
Because you do not want computers making any decisions
about what's going on. You want a level headed experienced
person in the cockpit doing what is safe and what is has been
proven over a centuries well, not centuries, but as a century
of flight. Yeah. powered flight view want professionals running
this the opportunity for oh, let's use the word glitches is
so vast that the computers don't need to be hacked for people to
die. These things the assault all software is crap. It's
always full of bugs. Every every computer program has bugs. It'll
take decades. AIDS before everything is fleshed out, and
people will die, they will die. This is the worst idea ever now
to have more information. Yeah, I'm all for it, but to have
systems that are going to respond to the information, but
I believe Airbus will be the first to do it, because they
have all these, they really have the fly by wire system, I
believe is a huge mistake. And I'm calling it right now, this
tears will come, this will end very, very poorly. And there's a
lot of good graphs in this report. A lot of good
illustrations that show you a show you exactly how it's
supposed to work, and how aircraft will be talking to each
other. And oh, we can get a little closer to each other.
Because of separation is not a problem that computers are
taking care of it, the unintended consequences of
technology will kill people. This is a very dumb idea. Not a
dumb idea to have information around
it. Because the whole idea of technology, when it when you
really take a look at it closely is to eliminate jobs. Yes,
eliminate people from from employment, and then don't
really do anything about I don't mean that I can see I remember
when I was a kid. This is it was like the sixth, fifth or sixth
grade or something. And I remember or maybe earlier. And I
remember the teachers talking about the great future where
everything's going to be run by robots, and they're good, people
aren't going to have to do any work. Because who the hell wants
to work on an assembly line is the worst job in the world. I
have done that, by the way. And it is not a great job, but it
pays well. But they don't want people on the assembly line.
They will because it's a demeaning job and hell with it,
let's get them off the assembly line, let the robots do
everything. And then the question remained, where do the
people that were eliminated from these jobs actually get money to
survive, and it was assumed in some way even that was never
said. So that would be in some socialist utopia, where if you
got eliminated from the assembly, the assembly line job,
the robot would share whatever it should have been, you know,
if it's being paid to with you, someone doesn't have to work
anymore. But in fact, as this has progressed, the money just
goes to the CEO, haha. And so we have this huge problem that
nobody wants to address. And it just continues and that's
exactly what you're describing here. Now we're gonna get rid of
some more highly skilled people,
air traffic controllers are highly skilled as well, they're
also going to be a little takers at
the bridge, until they can somehow eliminate toll takers at
the bridge with a card flash or, or a bump of the of the iWatch
or something. I mean, there's, the whole goal is to have so
nobody has a job. And there's no jobs for anybody, one of
the most important functions of ATC and pilots is weather. If
you're going to allow a weather system to transmit data to tell
an aircraft what to do, is you're going to die eventually,
because weather is very different when you're up there
and in it. And it's not just some, some computer models that
are looking at what might happen pilots all the time are talking
about to other pilots, here's what's going on to talk to ATC,
when when you're near an airfield, you're going to get
continuous updates about what's really going on, which is not
going to be even though aviation terminal area forecasts or TAFs
are very good because they're comprised from pilots flying
around an airport and reporting information back and ATC then
updates that and so you can get a pretty good idea of what's
going on that particular hour, then you have extended forecast,
but you really want to know what happened just a minute ago and
what is expected to happen in the next hour. And that's pretty
doable at that close range. But the decisions are going to be
made which is it's going to mess it up. And while there is of
course, reason for concern, to throw this onto cyber is only
promoting the bullcrap industry that is now growing around us.
In the Hague right now. The big cybersecurity Summit is taking
place. John, this is so coincidental this is happening.
This is who expected that and let me read from the dock
because people are going crazy in the Netherlands over over.
There's everyone's armed guards walking around and do because of
this. What is it called the Global cyberspace conference?
The Hague security Delta. Betcha Richard Clarke is there Oh,
they're all there and The Hague is almost in lockdown because of
let me read from their website. After the Afghanistan conference
and Nuclear Security Summit, the city of The Hague will host yet
another World Summit. On 16th and 17th April 2015, ministers
from many countries will meet at the World Forum to talk about
cyberspace and cybersecurity. Around 1300 participants are
expected. One of the main reasons behind the choice for
the Hague is strong presence of cybersecurity organizations.
Aha, yes. Yeah. So here it is subsequent to London 2011,
Budapest 212. And Seoul 2013. The Netherlands will organize
the fourth edition of the global cyberspace conference in The
Hague cyberspace unlocks enormous potential gains in
wealth and welfare. are in an even more connected society. In
order to be able to continue to benefit from the internet, it is
important to ensure safe ways to do business protect people from
threats to their privacy and from crime related activities
and to promote international stability in the cyber domain.
We are facing challenges and dilemmas in within the way we
secure these goals. Then check this out side events of the
global Cyber Conference cyberspace conference. Connected
to the high level political conference, the National
Cybersecurity Center organizes the one conference specifically
aimed at cybersecurity professionals. This is on the
13th, the 14th of April, during the week, several side events
powered by H S. D, be powered by hS D, Mo, whatever that is, will
be organized as well, first of all, an innovation room where
innovative cybersecurity technologies and their possible
active applications are shown will be hosted on the on the
campus on top of this, a hackathon. And an accelerator
session between entrepreneurs and investors will be organized.
This is a business people, this is a business of scaring you.
And quite frankly, the more of these systems we have to protect
you, the more likely we're going to die from them. This is bad.
This is very this is very, very bad. I can't say it enough.
Please read my friend Theo's document in the show notes. You
know Theo, right? Your buddy. Yeah, for you. Okay, never
talk to him. You don't even know who he is. And he wouldn't give
you the time of day? No, well, he's
in jail. So it's hard isn't Max super dismayed about not an easy
way. But I was reading it last night. And he talks about the
power process of human beings, where we have three steps one is
we need to make sure we have food. And you know, there's
there's the you have to do it just to survive, eat food,
shelter, some of these main things. And then there's the
second step, which is stuff you want to accomplish that is
really, really hard. And then there's the third step is to
just give up. And people human beings need challenge. If they
don't have challenge, I'm just I'm paraphrasing from his paper,
if they don't have a challenge, they kind of resort to one and
two. Now food and shelter. That's easy these days, you
know, even if you have no job, you pretty much can get food and
shelter. So you don't really have to go out and hunt. Number
two, where things are really hard, we just give up on that.
Now, if you don't have to work hard for anything, you then
subsequently fall into frivolous activities to keep keep your
brain busy. Well guess what that is entertainment. Facebook, a
book science is actually a frivolous activity. According to
a Theo scientists, you know, they study Oh, how about global
warming, they want to be part of the group, they want to have the
group think they want to be winners, they want to be
accepted. So they only focus is really a frivolous activity in a
way for these individual human beings. And we're just going to
melt into little puddles of flesh that are unimportant
because everything will take over we won't have to do
anything and we're just going to be you know, what useless eaters
in that regard. that regard? Yeah, there right. So this is
this,
which means you can just wipe out everybody and get the number
down to the idealist. Yeah,
500 500
doesn't have enough. I don't know how you did would,
it's gonna be easy, planes are gonna be falling out of the sky.
Cars are gonna be crashed into each other.
There's one scene in the movie Idiocracy where there was only
the looks out the window. It's very sure I think they could
have let the scene go on longer, but they looks out the window
and he sees the dystopia that's out there a building that's
about to fall or falls over against another building.
There's a freeway that just fell apart and there's an and and
cars are still on it. And they're driving off the end and
making a pile of cars. Yeah, and it's just one thing after
another and you can just see that is like the future some
something. Yeah. Yeah.
I had a lot of fun. I just I spent 45 minutes last night just
rereading oh my god this is this is actually happening and
Facebook is such by the way Facebook now officially can
cause depression the report in the got that in the show notes.
And the reason why is according to this study, but the
paraphrasing because you're looking at everybody's highlight
reel, viewed become depressed about your own shitty life.
Yeah, and of course this is not new, though. This is an old
study. Yes, I heard this
a year ago. Yeah, that's about it. But it's popped up again on
the radar. I've
always pointed out to me me who is a big Facebook user. Yeah,
she's
turning into a she's gonna melt into a puddle of flesh if she
doesn't watch it.
Yeah, and Shaw.
It's already started apparently. Yeah. You can't even talk
straight to you.
Everybody Facebook, Facebook. My old buddy highschool did we both
my old eighth grade friends? Were there up to you? How are
they doing? I don't care. Yeah, you're doing fine.
Anyway, with all this cyber stuff going on, I'm surprised
that NORAD can track Santa Claus but can't seem to track a gyro
and auto gyro is very, very, very disturbing to me. It's
coming in low. I don't think anything could catch that horse.
Not
Of course not. This is barely a blip on the radar. This guy was
skimming the trees. And there's no but we can't tell anybody
that we need more cyber, more Cyber Police. That's that's what
we need more of that. This will not end well. But those of you
listening to the best podcast in the universe are forewarned and
you can take appropriate measures.
Right, which is get off Facebook. And with that,
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning
to you John. See where it stands for cyber divorce.
Chuck. Well, good morning to you, Adam. Korean demonios ships
at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and
all the days and nights out there.
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Hillary Clinton popping out of it which even though she had not
announced when we would do oh right at the end of our show, I
guess she had to wait. They always do this to us. They had
to wait until the Hey, it's the show is no agenda over. Alright,
let's
let's do it now in the
news. Bring the news now.
I like the way she's floating around in the stupid van.
Yeah, the Scooby Doo van is where they're calling it.
Well, that's what she decided to call. Oh, well, there you go.
And it's just all published. I mean, it's she's getting more
publicity doing nothing. Yeah, because the media is just here's
love this woman. Whatever I promised
myself, I try not to talk about her. You know what, by the way,
Facebook is now unusable. Facebook what is now
unusable. It's always been unusable.
But it's so bad because all it is is it Hillary's a dick. Ted
Cruz is a dick. Everybody's a dick. No, screw the gays, screw
the Christians. Everyone's everybody and this is
glad to see it deteriorate like that. Maybe get some people to
wake up?
Well, and I will say this, I will say this justice once and I
won't say it again. I fully support Hillary Clinton becoming
the next President of the United States. Not only is she uniquely
qualified to run the Empire, but she is unwavering in her
apocalyptic goals. And I'm thinking she just might create
the tipping point that finally spurs human resources of the
world to get their crap together and fight because this is melt
down time with this lady. So I'm all in on her.
Well, I don't know I think they said the same thing when I'm not
gonna say it. So the Germans probably thought the same way at
some point in their history. Well, the guy and you know this
will take care of it everybody Oh, you know the mark when he
goes out this guy's not gonna last but
isn't that exactly what I just said? No. Oh, there were no
apocalyptic goals of the guy that the Germans talking about
Hitler. Yes. Yes, it was Time Magazine's Man of the Year. I
think twice Yeah. Yeah. Which goes
to show you some things well, let's thank a few executive
producers very few as a matter of fact we have one as executive
producer and to associate so we're not going to be here too
long. Robert Smiley in Holland Pennsylvania. 314 15 is one at
some fleeter fest love can you do a smiley and he loves the
recent deconstructions and he needs a job karma
Okay, well I'm a little a little slow on the on the draw here
hold on one second
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm not doing very well here. Am I Why
can I not find this now?
There goes my new system up. I'll give him a karma. Look for
the jobs. I don't know why I can't find this. This is very
strange. You've got karma.
Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. No big deal.
Sorry about that. Yeah,
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And this Thursday show falling on my birthday, I feel inclined
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analysis and comedy. Yes, if you have the time I like to hear the
shapeshifting Jews song and could always use a heaping
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shifting Jews song to use as a ringtone?
Well, why don't you just clip it up there or just shoot me an
email happy to help out?
shapeshifting Jews shapes and illustration. Shapes and
shapes. Amen.
You've got karma after we just pretty much compared to Hillary
Clinton to Hitler. I think that song is really great. And anyone
who doesn't know the history,
you're the one you brought it up. And so I couldn't the first
person that came to mind was Hitler.
Yeah, but the shape then put the shapeshifting Jews song in there
as a little twist.
Show goes up. Yeah. Exactly. Lou graner in London, UK. We have a
Brit that came in over $200. Hey, guys, the show keeps going
from strength to strength. Wow. I'm sure you'll win that podcast
award. Denied. Okay, wrong. I like some all purpose karma.
Unfortunately, I've tripled booked myself this weekend. Nice
move. I use a calendar. I set up a cycle event this Sunday was
around 400 cyclists riding at and then this note just
concatenates I don't have the rest
of it. I don't have it either. But I got the karma form right
here. You've got karma.
The Return key right in the middle of when you're typing. It
just says Okay, we're done. It's horrible. Anyway, that's it.
That's all we got. These three people unfortunately, I wish
would support would hold up a little better than it than it
did. I do have a kind of a late job karma thing. I promised the
guy. Okay. We wrote in a note saying that he doesn't
understand the mechanism, apparently. But he says. He said
we give we he says you and Adam, give me more neutral view of
current events. And I thank you both. I think I never realized
that they use the term neutral. We are a neutral. That's where
we're no agenda. We do give a neutral view we slam both sides
of the arguments show the stupidities of what people say
and it's very in the middle. We don't advocate for these
political political people. Anyway, this poor guy has been a
subscriber and he's been a donor and he needs job karma jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Or jobs.
And that's create dash now who just got that karma crowd?
Oh, I got that email too. Good.
You got to know too. Yeah. Good.
I'm glad you do that.
Anyway. That's it. That's all we got. Show.
That's disappointing. You know, pretty much we're telling we're
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stay alive during the coming. Apocalypse. And it's real. No,
I'm not. You can't get me on a cocktail with dinner. Oops,
sorry. Wrong one. It's real. Well, yeah. Now you make me do
it.
Make you do what making you do anything? Of
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got a question for you, John.
I'd ask away.
So looking at just this, I had CNN on last night and this
morning while I was prepping the and it seems like they're now
full or five at least four videos of cops killing people.
And it's you know, it's pretty graphic, you know, we have
ending, it's trending, cops killing people is trending. And
this is shown on television over and over and over again.
Night. What's your favorite?
I like the guy who was a deputy, who instead of grabbing his
Taser grabbed his gun and shot the guy and killed him.
No, no, no, that's not a good one.
Then what's your what's your favorite guy,
some guys walking out walking down the street black guy in a
white Oh, and they drives over him. And then there's one guy
following me and all of a sudden out of the blue crossing your
meridian and everything else a cop car during 60 It looked like
plows into the guy targeted at
him. Um, that was I liked that one too. And it was all because
he had a rifle to his chin like was going to kill himself. Oh,
yeah, I did before. Yes, but yes. Before skin down the
street. Okay, I saw the video I saw as the guy was walking down
the street had a rifle in his hand with it pointed at his
chin. And then the next scene you see is where the cop car who
was following him is passed by another cop car and plows into
him.
Yeah, that's the one but I don't remember a rifle in the chin.
That gate came in from so far away. How would he see it?
I'm just telling you what I saw. But that's irrelevant to my
point.
Yes, it is.
My point is, it's okay to show this on TV. Every one is all. Of
course, I hereby claim the format the television format,
which will show it's a reality show. We will be televising
death sentences. There's no reason that we can do that. Why
would we show the victims being killed? But we can't show people
who are killing people being put to death
used to be very common to do that they would have big public
party it would be parties would be hundreds of maybe 1000s of
people watching. Yeah. heads on their shoulders.
And kids are watching this on CNN.
Yeah. Oh, you have to agree. I've always thought this would
be a good show to watch we named watch it they'd all bitch and
moan about ah, it's disgusting. What what's wrong with our
civilization? Meanwhile, they have all this crap on people
they have if you just look look, think about what they show on
YouTube people falling on their butt people getting kicked off a
horse all the stuff that goes in it's all humility all
humiliation all humiliate this guy's trying to you know, be
jackasses on the show. They kick a bicycle on the top of a roof
and then drive the bicycle and getting down your break their
neck and entertainment. Just fine. I guess.
So we need a name for the show. Dead. Fry, or not fry? We got to
have something we had dead? No, that's not nice. I don't think
that's compelling enough.
I think it should be just a show. Well, how many people were
executed? I don't do they do at least one a week someplace in
the country.
But we can expand the format can expand to other Saudi Arabia, we
can do beheadings that can but that's not the same. It's more
fun when it's American. And then we keep cutting to a shot of the
phone on the wall. Maybe the governor is going to call with a
stay of execution scary music. Will the governor call find out
after these messages on the next episode of dead?
Now the problem is it's an half an hour show, I would assume or
an hour. Now the one way you the show would be produced is with
the suits get involved. I'd be a suit. Okay, your idea? Hey, we
got it. We want to make it an hour. Okay, we're gonna kill
some guy. And we have to make it an hour. Okay, what are we
doing? In other words, you have to start with the background.
Oh, yeah, I have to do all the but you have to do package after
package to make it so the audience hates this guy. Of
course, this would the suits would say because you don't want
to have any audience sympathy for this guy and you want to
actually feel good about seeing him die. That's the way I would
produce. I was super excited. Now
of course, of course. And then we'll also you know, the side
storyline will be oh, you know, we're out of the route of the
injectable drugs that kill people which had true
at the bash firing squad.
firing squad thing. And then we can have celebrities on the
firing squad. Him and Ted Nugent. Hey Nuge. would do it?
Of course he would. He would be great if we have a great then we
have politicians talking about this is a guaranteed hit. And
I'm claiming the format right now. The title is dead. The and
if anyone tries to steal this, we're going to sue you.
Yeah, yeah. You just didn't mark it down in the show notes. It's
our form. That would be the show. It'd be an hour long.
Because you build it. You build a build a build. It's going to
be genuine and I liked idea of celebrities shooters or
witnesses or somebody even you know,
if it's not a shooting firing squad, we could have celebrity
doctors like Dr. Drew could inject him. Or Sanjay Gupta
celebrity, the
plastic surgeon they're always looking for publicity. This is
actually charged them. And we'll be on the show as a yes. Fee
native advertising. Yeah, perfect. All we need is little
money to do a pilot.
These executions, we could put it in variety wanted
a person, person for the show dead.
Good, we probably could get some people to do it on a spec, if
they think you can't do the fleet fake the thing at the end,
we don't really need to have somebody executed. For the
purposes of the pilot. We just want to show people how the show
works. You know
what's great, what's really cool about this, we will not have to
pay the person on death row. Because it'll be a non speaking
role. So they don't have to be sag.
Right? They won't be they won't, yes, they will have a non
speaking role.
Everyone else will be sag out with or after.
So it makes this people more sympathetic toward the show. You
could have him interviewed with and then paid to his relatives
who are going to suffer after he gets killed and as a charitable
thing.
Oh, not only that, but the victim. We give some money to
the victim.
There's probably a murderer is probably a murderer and they get
victims dead or the victim's family though. Which makes me
Yeah, all right goes to the victims.
So watching it will be the ultimate moral self licensing.
Yeah, because you'll feel good. You'll feel good that you
watched and help you we can even do donate, we can do a donation
drive. Right on the show, including commercials people
will love it. It's so obvious are the victims. Yeah, we of
course. Yes. Such an OB who hosts the show. We need a host.
Well, let's see who could host a show like that. You want to
comic you know, like Paul like Harvey, Steve Harvey. Drew, Cara
Drew, what the heck is
now Drew Carey now. We'll think of somebody. I think. Yeah,
there's just about to say I think Dennis Miller. Yeah, that
would be good. Or Ryan Seacrest is a suggestion from the chatter
he'll do anything. He'll produce it, we can hire him to produce
it we can,
produces a sure winner we will own
the format then created by it might be funny to have a super
gay guy to host a show. That can be I could be funny. Okay. So as
part of my annoyance with Facebook, this particular clip
from Ted Cruz came up and just wanted to I'm not a fan of Ted
Cruz. Although he's he's very experienced as a politician, and
his wife is very connected through Goldman Sachs. He I find
him icky and creepy. But he said something that a lot of people
are going just apeshit about. And of course, it's about
religion. I guess he announced his candidacy in a church or
something boo hoo, he doesn't care about me because I don't
believe in God, whatever. But he talks specifically about the
bill of rights in the Constitution. And I just wanted
to, to explain what he is saying because a lot of people are in
in the United States of Gitmo nation, and certainly outside of
the United States do not understand the Bill of Rights
when it comes
to constitutional rights. What matters is what the Bill of
Rights says, It doesn't matter what might be popular at the
moment. We've seen regimes across the face of the earth,
come and take away people's guns to strip away their rights to
defend themselves. And sometimes it's been very popular. And yet,
it is an inevitable prelude to tearing. Our country was founded
on a radical proposition which is that our rights don't come
from government. They come from God. And the purpose of the
Constitution Chairman Thomas Jefferson said the Constitution
serves as chambers to bind the mischief of government. And the
entire reason for the Second Amendment is not for hunting.
It's not for target shooting. Those are both wonderful. It's
great to go with your family with your kids to go hunting, to
get to go skeet shooting, but that's not what the Second
Amendment is for. The second amendment is there so that you
and I can protect our homes, our families and our children in our
lives. And it's also there as a fundamental check on government.
And before I explain it just had what a great idea when he loses.
He would be a fantastic host he's got an annoying
I don't think he's attractive enough to do a show true.
Just wanted to explain to people because although Ted Cruz is
saying that the inalienable rights that we have in the bill
of rights such as a Freedom of speech right to bear arms, etc.
These are not if you read the bill of rights and people need
to do this. These are not rights given to you by the government
or by some agreement. These are rights that you already have.
That is what the founding document says, we already have
these rights. Now, Ted Cruz thinks that come from God,
whatever. That's his version of it. But the only thing that Bill
of Rights does is restrict what government can do and the words
are shall not be infringed. So you already have the right
according to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, you have the
right to free speech, you have the right to bear arms. That
right may not be infringed. And people don't understand this.
And America I hate to do a man on the street people are stupid,
they kept stupid of course by the education system. They don't
understand that these are rights that you already have as a
natural born person. And it frustrates me to see what I
deemed to be in general intelligent people getting this
wrong and and going nuts about Ted Cruz talking about God we're
really the only God every politician worships to is the
dollar and by the way on the dollar it says In God we trust
you know, that's a little a little blip you might want to
investigate if you do have a problem with religion,
well, we're gonna have a lot of gun discussion between now and
the election with the both sides taking you know, opposite views.
And we're already starting to see it on the kind of the shows
like Megan Kelly show Megan file rivers called totally file. And
I ran into a couple of clips I want to play one of them is it
before we start, I want to give some background this is called
if you have a gun. And this is she had a guest on who I guess
she brings on once in a while he represents Fox does this much
better than everybody else? The other side of the argument?
Yeah, I agree. And,
and more respectful, I would say I have to say that more
respectful.
Yeah. Well, they also hope that the guy is nuts. Yeah, whatever
the case, this guy comes on, and he has talking points that he
wants to get in. And it's actually the beginning of the
clip. That's the most interesting because he starts
the talking points. And then she gets she interrupts and then he
starts the talking points and she interrupts and this goes on
about four or five times until she finally stops talking and
who was this guy who was this guy? I don't have his name but
he's just another one of these guys. He's an anti gun guy, one
of those guys and but he's doing talking points so he's once he
gets started he wraps through the talking points and you can
be sure you're gonna be hearing these because this is somebody
put these out. And what's interesting is the I would like
anybody who was a not a second amendment would they call it a
war against the Second Amendment there's actually groups that are
forming to just take it out of the Bill of Rights just take it
out. Whatever the case there's a bunch of information here I
think is bogus Texas is never brought up in the conversation
for some reason. And they Megan doesn't bring it up, nobody
brings it up, which is you know, people are packing in Texas and
there's less crime less violent crime. And, but listen to this,
and you're here, this is what this is like the one of the
opening salvos of what we have to put up with for the next year
and a half straight people
did not have such easy access to guns, two of the three people
would still be alive. How do you have a gun in your home Chicago,
and other places.
With guns, your home your four times as likely to be shot with
it as be able to actually use it to defend yourself if you have a
gun in your home, you're twice as likely to be a victim of
homicide three times as likely to be the victim of suicide. And
and you are a young adult, you are a young adult in this
country, you are 17 times more likely to die from a gun than a
kid in another developed country. That is just wrong.
Recent
statistics.
Statistics includes suicides,
guns are too easy to get in this country, we have got to control
our guns to be able to control gun violence.
And yet guns are a lot like lawyers. You don't want one
around until you need one. And in your in your in your house in
the middle of night and you hear the door open and somebody's
thinking probably gonna get killed if you pull it out. Not
if you're not if you take your training and you know how to use
it. Well, the vast majority of people in this country do that.
Well, I'm not making any further comment.
I'm not breaking into your house.
I'm not saying a word, but you're welcome.
Now, the interesting thing in that whole besides the talking
points was I'm not breaking into your house, which
is the whole point. It's the whole point exactly what Texas
is like, I'm not gonna break into your house, you might you
might have a gun.
So he actually blew it by saying that. Yeah. And then he also
said something the vast minority.
Well, that was that was I thought that was interesting to
the vast minority. That's what Yeah, I think that was a
mistake. That's like most of the minority, which means even less
than the minority. It means,
I mean, anything could be one person, the vast majority that
continued on the debt. That discussion ended at some point
and we got this news item. I don't know if this was on her
Sure elsewhere but I think it was on her show too. And this is
the problem this clip surprised me because we knew this was
going on before with porn stars porn stars you're having trouble
keeping a bank account
I know what's happening I know what's out Yeah.
And porn stars certain kinds of nightclubs strip joints places
like that where the banks would
won't give them an account to charge to or even a bank account
period right
you wouldn't get a bank again this is totally corrupt by the
way this nothing more corrupt than the government and the
banks being in bed together you know it's a fascist and
doing it under the guise of payday loans are bad and user
user us which is what the what the explanation is?
Well, this explanation is they don't know what it is because
they haven't gotten to the bottom of it. This is the gun
shops targeted by banks clip
developing tonight, a Kelly File investigation into new
allegations of a bank forcing a gun shop out of business, even
after the Feds admitted their involvement in the controversial
program and agreed to cut it out. Trace Gallagher reports
trace
Megan operation choke point was created by the Obama
administration to choke up businesses it finds
objectionable like gun shops, casinos and tobacco sellers. The
way it reportedly worked is that banks and other financial
institutions were pressured by the Department of Justice and
the Federal Insurance deposit corporation or FDIC to cut off
accounts for certain businesses. After Congress challenged the
Feds on Operation choke point, the chairman of the FDIC
acknowledged that program might have been misunderstood and
misapplied and then agreed to reverse course, by this
Wednesday, Congress wants the feds to provide documents to
prove that certain businesses are no longer being bullied. And
yet a few weeks ago, the owner of American gun and pawn in
Central Florida got a letter from SunTrust Bank saying that
all of his accounts would be closed, there was no
explanation, except that quoting here, there are circumstances
where we will identify a specific account relationship
that no longer meets these criteria. The owner Steve
champion had no idea what the criteria was. But when he called
SunTrust he says he quickly found out
when I called one of their one of their you know, the people
that answered the phone, you know, first thing in the morning
could have been some kind of clerk or something said all you
got one of the gun letters, these are going out to a lot of
different you know, gun shops around the country. So I can't
say for sure that the you know the reason but it sure sounds
fishy.
So we called SunTrust. And a spokesperson told us that the
reason Mr. champion's accounts were closed is because part of
his business is a pawn shop saying quoting again, any
suggestion that this is a firearms issue is inaccurate?
Well, this is important. Yes. That means they can do the same
thing to podcasts
easily. Of course, we'll be on deck right now like this. Shut
down. WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks. Thank you very much. Pierre
Omidyar drive my car that cut off PayPal from WikiLeaks. It
could be we use PayPal if we're not on message and someone gets
annoyed. But if we had won a podcast award, we would have had
the higher likelihood of being cut off. Can you the you're in
the in the picture? Yeah.
Well, WikiLeaks is a perfect example. So it's a legitimate
business. They're not doing anything illegal, unlawful, or
unlawful. But they got cut off from PayPal, and once they put
up some stuff that the government didn't want to see,
this is what started to happen. There was and this was happening
with these gun guys because Obama's boys led by holder don't
like gun shops. They don't like people owning guns. It's like
you don't want that. There was so many, you know, been busy
campaigning for the cops to run some guy down. Walking down the
street.
I got a note from Sir Chris, who runs a bull's eye. That's the he
has a couple of gun stores. Right and he sent me a note,
which was a letter sent to sent from Shirley Weber, California
State Assembly regarding regarding the opposition to a B
66. This is a bill about cops wearing cameras. I just want to
read it to you because there's something very interesting in
here on behalf of more than 2000 members of the San Francisco
Police Officers Association we regret to inform you of our
opposition to a B 66. From the from the from the let me see
what this No it's I think this is from the from the from the
cops from the SF P Oh A. We read to inform your opposition to a B
66 contract concerning body worn cameras for peace officers. I
love that term. By the way. This like peace keepers. Many cities
and counties throughout California have implemented or
in the process of implementing the use of body worn cameras a B
66 establishes a number of significant mandates concerning
the use of these cameras. Many of the mandates and a B 66 are
likely to result in serious putting unjustly, dangerous,
unintended consequences. While we support much of the language
in this bill, the goals that seeks to attain our strong
concerns with certain sections of this legislation require us
to oppose HB 66. And here's the one that's interesting. Watch,
I'll do all three of them here lack of meet and confer this
bill potentially violates meeting confer requirements for
any change in working conditions. I don't know what
that means. Lack of clarity, but here, it would recruit with him
having body worn cameras would would require officers to read
Miranda rights to victims, and would require it which I think
is required if you're arrested. While we respect and understand
the goal of this language, we do not feel it is appropriate for a
victim or witness to have Miranda rights read to them.
Hearing Miranda rights can be a stressful and confusing process
and may alienate the very individuals who could be most
helpful in providing critical evidence. How does that work?
I don't think this is right, first of all the meet and confer
means that the police union can't have you just can't start
throwing making them do stuff without the meeting and
conferring over it. Okay. Now. They she says whoever wrote that
note says that Miranda rights must be read to victims
and and potential witnesses.
Why would that be that makes no sense? I don't know.
It says rights to victims. Is that requirement victimized
somebody? Somebody drove did a drive by shooting and I got
shot.
I think it's irrelevant if you're going to my right, if
you're arrested, if they if they have to arrest you know, that
doesn't say anything about it being a red house. What is a
victim get arrest? I'm just
no well, maybe I don't know. We're witnesses. If there's
confusion and the Hey, we get to arrest everybody to find out
what happened here.
What you did, it's called false arrest. That's a problem.
I I just found it interesting. I really don't know why or how but
it seems counterintuitive clarification. Now, while we had
Megyn Kelly and I have a clip I have Megyn Kelly clip,
interestingly, but first broke. We had Debbie Wasserman Schultz
led Yes, we had Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairwoman of the
Democratic Party going around responding to little Ron Rand
Paul's statements about abortion, late term abortion.
And I don't have his statement, but I think it was very similar
to his father Ron Paul, saying, you know, in the third
trimester, you have a living human being inside of you, and
that is murder and not abortion, and which I'm not going to
debate. But the way Debbie Wasserman Schultz answered, this
was very interesting. In both cases first, here she is with
broth,
right when he says that it's okay, from your perspective to
kill a seven pound baby and uterus. Is that your position?
We have very different definitions of personal liberty.
I made that clear in my response, the Democratic Party's
position is that we are pro choice. We believe that a
decision on a woman's reproductive choices is best
left between a woman and her doctor. And I am still waiting
for Rand Paul to say whether or not he supports exceptions when
when a woman is raped. Are we going to force a woman to carry
a baby to term and not allow her to make that choice? Are we
going to wait when she's the victim of rape when she's the
victim of incest? Are we going to let a woman die? Would Rand
Paul let a woman die? Because she's carrying a baby? Or is she
going to let her make that choice with her doctor? I
I like where the conversation is going because it's entertaining
to me.
Is very entertaining. Wait for the Megyn Kelly her Wasserman
Schultz cannot get off. She is the representative of the
Democratic National Committee. So she has very specific talking
point she cannot get off of the she did not get off these
talking points, because it'll screw things up. Uh huh. And she
can't, she can't just say no, we're against murder. She will
not express an opinion of hers.
Yes. Let's listen to her on The Kelly File even more
entertaining, you
would admit that. You can't have women aborting third trimester
babies just on a whim. Right? I mean, so you,
you agree they're certainly not on a whim. But when
trying to get you know, where did where do the Democrats stand
on? You know, should?
We've been very clear that there's no ambivalence here.
We're very clear. We believe that that decision is best left
not to government, but between a woman and her doctor. So there
isn't I can't tell you a specific date and time past
which we on all in all cases are certain that that choice
shouldn't be made because that decision is very unique and
individual to the woman and should be in consultation with
her conscience and her God and her doctor. That is the decision
left to her.
By the way dads have nothing to do with this? Yeah, nothing's
zero. It must be unless you unless he's a doctor. I just
found it interesting. She threw in the little God thing there.
And that was kind of cool. That we are in for a crazy time. And
we're really going to try here on the no agenda show. To cut
through the bullcrap. And boy, there's a lot of it. Oh, it's
gonna be even better. Well, for us, I think it's good because we
will. It'll be comedic.
Well, I got a little comedic thing here. Okay. There's a
little distant guy gotta go very far as it'll be a little bit off
topic. But this was a meeting one of these financial things
about the the new bank China is trying to open up the Asian in
the eye,
Asian in Infrastructure Investment Bank, which Russia
now just signed up to join as well.
Yeah, that'll screw things up. Anyway, let's listen to the
guard though. Because she made she comes up with a new term
Fifi. Fifi is the the chairwoman or president of the
International Monetary Fund, which is at AIB is a competitor
up to the
right. And, of course, the IMF cut China out of the picture.
And that's why China started the AI be?
Well, the IMF didn't cut China out of the picture, the
ratification of the 2010 where they call it
some Oh, but they got cut out somehow.
Because the United States Congress would not ratify the
changes to allow China in, which would make China number two and
voting rights, but the US would retain its veto power. But we'll
just have none of that.
No, no, you have to have everything here's loose is fine.
All right. It's all setting up China for a fall. Can we listen
to Fifi? Yes.
One of your main messages today is that global economic growth
is yes, it's growing. But it's not enough. It's not as fast as
you'd like to see it. And you went so far as to say, growth in
the near term is going to be pared down. What did you mean by
that? And why is that happening?
Today's growth indicates that recovery is underway. And
unfortunately, it is to moderate and an even, that's for the
short term. But what we're also seeing is that the growth
potential, that is growth for tomorrow and the day after
tomorrow, has been seriously affected by the scars of the
financial crisis by something that we can't do anything about,
which is the aging of population, and by a very low
productivity. So what we risk is the new mediocre, not to become
reality. Oh, well,
welcome to Facebook,
The New Yorker,
this is genome reality, that's better than a flying router.
Close second, actually, I don't know. New, mediocre,
mediocre. By the way, what she's describing is Common Core.
There's that what she's describing a lot of things, but
when she talks about the economy going the way it's going, which
by the way, none of that was a rosy picture. It wasn't Oh,
we're back on track the stock market.
Oh, we have the scars of the financial crisis. Yes, this
is an apt description of a 10 year depression, which was,
which was which took place in the 70s place in the 30s. It's
taking place throughout history. And that's exactly what's going
on. And all she's doing is describing it and nobody wants
to admit it, except a few people or a few people that say we're
in a depression. But
well, you, you and I, you and I we agree. Well, there was more
craziness, the European Central Bank has now gone to negative
interest rate. And I read in the it was either Bloomberg or the
Wall Street Journal that banks now who have handed out
mortgages to people with adjustable rates now actually
have to pay these people who borrowed money. You have to pay
them because the interest rate is negative. So what they're
doing they're not actually paying well, they are they're
not giving people
really pay you just your your payments go below your base, so
is low that it's equivalent and being paid. The report says have
to pay the loan off.
Yes. But the report says that they are now deducting the
amount from the principal. Yeah. So yes, yes, you still have to
pay a principal amount but it's reduced, right. It's reduced.
And then And then what happened the ECB was discussing this. I
don't know if you saw this a conference of the our press
conference. And they were talking about the the negative
interest rate and all the typical things about pretty much
running the EU banking system them, and a protester woman cute
girl.
I have a clip.
I have a clip too. I have a clip of it happening. I'll just play
it's 30 seconds and then we'll play your clip conditions. We
will treat it she jumps up
love this. So she jumps up that's, that's actually as
interesting of this footage. There's a shot of her. Before it
takes place. She's sitting in the front row with other
journalists. And she has a coda which she takes off and she has
a t shirt on that says and the ECB dictatorship DIC que tater
ship, which of course means that men are ruining the male or she
by the way, calls herself a protester for hire. And the if
you look into who she is, her name is something which
Stephanie wit I think she's one of those from the feminine group
that oh, okay, who are protesters for hire? So someone
hired her to do this. Yeah. And, and feminine feminist, the group
of women who take their clothes off
when sitting justice Farage?
Possibly, but it's cool, because you can now just hire this group
to do cool stuff. And yeah, and she's hot and she jumped up on
the pretty the enter button. Yeah, her butt was showing and
she had a skimpy little slip on the whole thing was great.
Yeah, well, I actually just have the report of it, which I
thought was pretty, pretty funny in and of itself.
Which one is Draghi? And the girl?
Yes. Mario Draghi, of course, is the President of the ECB.
And in Germany, the head of the European Central Bank had his
own scare from against austerity policies. Mario Draghi was
holding a news conference in Frankfurt, when a woman leapt
onto the desk, she dumped confetti and shouted in the ECB
dictatorship, before she was dragged away.
I'm all for this. I'm a big fan of this. This is the kind of
protest that needs although it's sad that it's not a real person
who really understands what she's doing, and hates the ECB
for what they're doing. She's hired by someone. But that in
itself is good. We need more protests. This is
what it is. I say don't throw the book at her. Oh, they will.
Oh, okay.
It's Europe may Hello, eu now that of course they're gonna
throw the book at her, but as great PR and I'd like what I
would have preferred if she jumped up and she'd have no
agenda show a t shirt we can hire them to do this
might not be a bad thought, some way of getting publicity. We can
hire
these feminine people. Hear the truth. Listen to no agenda show.
Dictator. Well, there's another route we listen to no agenda.
They put the dick in dictator. What's the other route?
There's another route you can go. Now this is a fairly long
report, but I got to divide it up into two things and you can
cut the second part off. Okay, but this is about trolls. paid
trolls in Russia. It's very interesting.
I read this. Well, they are the scourge of the internet.
That's it done. Report is done. We are the scourge of the
internet. No agenda show.com Trolls.
These are people who get on chat rooms or sites and try to stir
up controversy. Whoo, unsuspecting young people
or worse, and that's
the picture most of us know. But as our next report shows trolls
are also propaganda shares a dubious political message
undercover as anonymous citizens simply chatting online.
It's being done in Russia. We got an inside look at just how
it works.
This unremarkable building in a residential part of St.
Petersburg is the locus of a pro Kremlin propaganda campaign. The
sign says business center with no other hint of what's going on
inside. Most people working here a young around 18 or 20. And no
one wants to say exactly what they're doing. Merit applied for
work here as an online troll. There was no contract. He was
paid in cash for 12 hour shifts. He says there was barely any
talking and employees had to pay a fine for being late. So praise
quotes Coco court
multiline there was an atmosphere of silence and
depression. Now, we had so many tasks that we had no time to
walk around. Yeah, to meet you. quota. You had to work, work
work, but somewhat struggle.
To create the illusion of a discussion, three trolls work on
one topic. One plays the villain and says things clearly not in
line with the authorities and other person contradicts him.
And the third adds balance from the Kremlin perspective. Marat
was told what to discuss on the forums of various Russian
websites. They will often local news sites from around the
country.
Is this a BBC report John or just an English guy as well?
Okay, whenever you have a Brit, you know, it sounds like the
truth.
starts in a store one time, I had to convince the readers that
a majority of Germans support Putin's politics. Improv the bad
guy wrote, nonsense. The Germans don't like Putin. Then we come
in and write. Of course Germans love him. Check this out. And
then I posted a link to a dubious Russian news portal to
the message to readers. Putin is venerated in Germany by
popularity is sinking is in decline. So on point,
I will point out that this tactic of troll is an
interesting word of trolls in chat rooms and forums, etc. is
well documented to be a, a concept invented by Cass
Sunstein. He wrote the paper on this. This is how America would
propagandize
I believe that this has been going on here much longer. It's
been going on it's
in our own chat room.
Exactly. It would be it wouldn't be it has to be Yeah. This was
going on. I know this is going on with the Munchkin a situation
with during the OS two era with Microsoft trolls.
I'm sorry, the Munchkin Yeah, we're
called munchkins, these little guys from Microsoft had come in
to anything that was had to do with OS two and they were
promoting windows and it destroying any concept that OS
two is any good. This is a era when Ballmer IBM came out with
OS two at one point and said it's crash proof. So Ballmer
himself with a disk that was written for some by some coders
at the company would go during comp the Comdex here and go into
the IBM booth where there's always two pieces crash proof,
stick the disk in and crashed the machine. And of course,
nobody found this outrageous. No, it was amusing in some ways,
but But this sort of thing is American strategy. And there's
no question in my mind that the State Department's been doing it
forever, especially when Hillary was there.
We know she trailed nowhere. She trained them. They called them
CYBER WARS. I
talked to PR people and from big agencies about this. And they
will they kind of deny that anyone has anything to do with
it that definitely don't work for the company. But there may
be independent contractors that contract out for certain things,
but certain kinds of publicity stunts that have teams of these
people that go into chat rooms, and this is why none of this
should be taken. People should only go to the chat room for the
amusement part. And no, don't get into an argument because
there's professional art viewers that will beat you back. Yeah,
techno experts to Hillary's technical experts. That's what
it was. Her techno experts tech no extra training, it's well
documented. Let's see techno echo I wonder if we have
any way they go on? Do you want to play the second half a day
outside without having to go on the show? It all like a lot of
the art that's on the internet is created by the Russians on
elsewhere. We knew this has a picture of something and another
Who's the idiot you know what this captions is kind of the
stuff I put at the end of the newsletter. I'll have some cute
thing. And once they're all and make it look like a poster.
I don't have a technical experts here. This is an old clip
in our technical experts,
okay, it's the jingle I got it. techno song? Yes, the song. We
can play it at the end of the show. That might be fun. Anyway,
I
thought that was interesting. And a lot of it had to do with
demeaning Merkel. I think Merkel's irked Oh,
they're calling it there's a name for it in Europe. It's
Merkel's mistake. This, this all these alliterative terms that
are being used for and this is the Kagan's by the way this is
Nudelman who was who I'm talking about Merkel being an idiot and
they're spreading that
yeah, very rude. Oh
while here as a part of the six weeks cycle cluster again, this
was very I actually caught this and I went home this in my my
brain even though the short term memory seems to be depleting
concern. I am concerned about my short term memory, long term
memories Very good. And the big news Oh, ISIS is in Mexico.
ISIS, just very walk right into Laredo.
They're here. I retweeted that. Okay,
now, let me play the clip. And then I'll play you something
that I went back and discovered because of the long term memory
working. Here's
our news report that said,
this is Sheriff Gary painter from Midland, Texas. And he's
talking about this report about from the Mexican authorities
apparently, that ISIS is in Mexico, just two miles from the
border, and they could be in Laredo any minute. Well, our
report that said that there was ASOs sales that were active in
the Warriors area, which is northern part of Chihuahua
state, and that they were moving around over there that they had
just to throw some activity in for the sheriffs along the
border to be on the alert for all law enforcement to be on the
alert. And to be on the lookout for these people maybe trying to
come across.
Are you saying that ISIS is ready to come across poised to
perhaps execute what they have threatened to do attacks on the
United States drown us in our own blood? Is that what you're
saying?
leading the witness? drown us in our own blood leading the
witness? I'm
saying the border is wide open. There is no control on the
border. It's not shut off. There's places along the Rio
Grande you can walk across there's no water in it. I worked
the border for eight years I walked back and forth across the
Rio Grande I was in Mexico. I was on this side and never got
challenged in there's always a way to get across there's
counties that bring those people across for 1000s of dollars but
they'll bring them into that area in in wait when the time is
right and they'll bring them across the river. Why not? We
have found people along those the border Who is this,
this from CNN, of course,
these people come across have found Muslim clothing they have
found books
they found Koran books it's not Muslim clothing, Qur'an books,
Damn man, Muslims laying
on the side of the road or side of the trail. So we know that
there are Muslims that have come across and being smuggled in the
United States, or perhaps
just some Muslim Qur'an books were thrown around as a Muslim
clothing because nothing says I'm Muslim, like running around
naked.
What is your message for the White House? And what is your
message for ISIS ISIL and terror cells in making
if they show their ugly head and send them to hell? The United
States need to get busy, busy, busy, they need to take them
out, take them out. I would like for him to hit them so hard and
so often, that every time they hear a propeller on a plane or a
jet aircraft agent that to urinate down both legs. When you
do that, then you've accomplished a lot. And I think
General Allenby, Georgia, United States Marine Corps, I think
we're going to have if they let him go, let him do what needs to
be done. If they'll hit him and hit him hard and hit them often.
We need to shut them off.
They'll be that Sheriff painter, we thank you for being with Fox
and Friends with a very white house. Okay,
so I'm listening to this. And of course, I'm laughing the what
the guy saying is ridiculous. But then like, wait a minute, I
know this jabroni I take you back to no agenda Show Episode
650, September 7 2014. That is now more than halfway. Well,
now, how long ago is that now? That's more than half a year ago
when they tried this the first time.
So if you live here in New York, or if you've been here in the
subway system, and the row passengers are constantly worn.
If you see something say something, every one of us has
to be on our toes and one Texas sheriff says he is ready for
ISIS. We're joined now by Sheriff Gary painter of Midland
County, Texas. Good evening, Shara. Good evening. How are
you? I'm great. I hope you're great. Well, you
it's the same guy with the same stupid story. They tried it to
listen to
want to short it in case of an attack by ISIS or by any other
terror group. What's your biggest concern?
Well, the fact that they're already here, that's the biggest
thing. I've worked the border for about eight years. Same
stories on the border that you can walk across a river from
Presidio. There's no water in the river.
It's exactly the same script, John.
This is outrageous. It is outrageous.
There's nothing to keep you out. We've got for 10 to 15 million
that are undocumented aliens that are inside the United
States now. And there's no doubt that have that there have been
some people coming in that should not be here that are from
places other than Mexico or Hispanics.
So this is disturbing.
Well, I keep running these things out and just until they
take hold until so yeah, until eventually so yeah. So I was a
lousy spokesperson out day and Rob, I said, I know I sound
stupid. Well, let me tell you about the rivers all dried up.
And there's all kinds of Qur'an books all over the place.
They're here. That's right. That's right. Well, on the heels
of this, there was a 39 I believe 39 law enforcement
officials, I think FBI and other Homeland Security. I haven't
seen the list. So I don't even know if it's true or not, was
published on the website. And this was apparently done by the
caliphate, cyber group, or the ISIS caliphate, cyber something
rather. The Cyber caliphate is what its cyber caliphate. Thank
you. The Cyber caliphate. So who should we blame this on?
The Cyber cat Oh, the killer Hillary Clinton. Oh close.
CBS News has confirmed that sensitive information on federal
law enforcement, including the FBI has been leaked. The news
comes one month after ISIS sympathizers post posted the
names of US military members online.
HOMELAND SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Jeff gates joins us from
Washington. So Jeff, thanks for being here. What do we exactly
know about this?
Well, this is something that law enforcement officials are
looking into right now. And it's something that they became aware
of yesterday, what we're told, and what we've seen is that at
least 39 names and addresses of senior law enforcement officials
in this country, including the director of the FBI, and Jay
Johnson of the Department of Homeland Security, their
addresses listed on a website, it was somehow obtained by the
person behind this website, or who posted on the website. And
now it is out there. And so investigators are looking into
this. This is similar to what happened last month when the
names and addresses of some members of the military were
leaked. The Pentagon investigated that it turns out
that that was attributed to ISIS is hacking division or ISIS
sympathizers. This case is different investigators believe
the people or person behind this case is some sort of right wing
supervisor or right wing group.
So ISIS is now supported by right wing crazies. And how do
we know this?
And I say that because in this leak there are references to 911
and the person who posted this accuses the people on the list
that has been leaked of treason
There you go, right wing crazies are now sympathizers of ISIS. It
doesn't get much better than that. And you know, we can I can
combine jingles to make their it's the cyber caliphate. Is
that the name of their outfit? You said?
Yeah, cyber killer. That's not bad at all. Not bad. Well, the
cyber caliphate shut down a French TV stay. Yeah. So
you have a clip. Good, good. Good.
I use j clip last week last show, and I know. Oh, okay. So I
didn't bring it over. But there's a couple other things
kind of internationally going on that are interesting. We have a
cyber attack
on a Belgian outfit. I'm sorry, I want to go ahead. I'm gonna
interrupt.
I have one thing to play, which is not directly related to cyber
caliphate. But But kind of related to the war on terror.
This is the data privacy in Germany clip and this guy that's
talking is the holder the Eric Holder is that he's the head of
the of the government's, you know,
justice system, Attorney justice.
And the guy looks like him later, but that's beside the
point. It's just unfortunate. That's
not saying anything at all. Hey, man. Okay, play. Well play it.
Yeah.
What data privacy is a huge issue here in Germany. In fact,
Germany is frequently referred to as the gold standard for
protecting privacy on the web.
And that explains why unlike in most EU countries Germany does
not currently have a law allowing massive retention of
data.
But that could be changing. The German government is now
proposing limited legislation to help intelligence agencies
prevent terrorist attacks.
Germany's Justice Minister Heiko moss knows it's an unpopular
decision. The majority of Germans oppose data retention.
But he says he can no longer ignore the threat from terrorist
networks. Proposal, compromise, shuffle
was good. We want him to create a balance between security
interests, on the one hand on civil rights, the other and
that's the basis for the guidelines we presented today
divide the four
states. Therefore see retaining German citizens phone and
internet usage records for up to 10 weeks. That would be the
shortest retention time and all of Europe. security authorities
could only access The data if they suspect criminal activity,
and they would need permission from a judge data that won't be
saved includes the content of calls, websites visited and
emails. Interior Minister Thomas Tim Azir would have preferred to
allow security officials access to more information. But he says
he's happy just to have some form of data retention taking
place. To tell us Mr. Kevin L
of terrorism and organized crime is a key issue. That was very
important both to me and to security officials,
permission to burn. After
four ads, that's why I pushed for data retention on the home
to provide us with information about terrorist networks and
activity of clear and second,
the minister has helped to have a draft law for Parliament soon.
But they face vehement resistance from the opposition
parties who say the plan law is a violation of the basic right
to privacy.
Okay, what's your takeaway from this? Well, it's
an interesting thing. They, for one thing, they shouldn't put up
with this because what terrorism is taking place in Germany,
although there was an incident in Belgium, which couldn't be
stopped anyway. And they are they already retain records
there. But he slips in the word just out of the blue just before
the end. He says terrorism and organized crime. Ah, and they
slipped it in very, very you didn't hear I didn't hear it?
No. Yeah, very suddenly slips it in. And that's what this is all
about. This is the Old God is so much work to bust these guys.
Let's put the set up a dragnet. And we get them some other way.
We just add, let's use terrorism as an excuse, as usual. What
we're doing in this country?
Yes. And people will be all
in? Oh, yeah. Because of terrorism.
And a reminder, going back to the beginning of the show, when
you let other people, certainly a government be fully in charge
of your privacy, your security, your food, your shelter, your
anything else, the primary needs, you become a lazy,
complacent, blubbering mess of flesh. Because you got nothing
better to do,
check and Facebook.
Oh, by the way, cool article about Facebook. Here it is this
is bring this up for a second. So there was a group of
developers, I'm reading verbatim notice the curious amount of
activity on Facebook chat. I'm not I'm not sure what that is. I
certainly don't chat on Facebook. I guess it's just the
instant message this thing. Pulling at the thread, it says
here, they discovered a mysterious company, known as
Recorded Future, was accessing the chat. So they were chatting
from one Facebook account to another. And they I guess the
developers were integrating something into that. But they
saw besides the two IP addresses, the sender and the
receiver, they saw 10 other IP addresses accessing this chat.
And it's this outfit called Recorded Future. And Recorded
Future is a cybersecurity firm. And they are funded by Oh, here
it comes. First of all, they're funded by Google, which is cool,
because it could be some espionage going on there, but
also by acuto. And of course, my favorite company, which is the
CIA's venture capital firm. Right, and they are spying on
your chats.
Yeah, they're probably downloading them, keeping them
to some database. Of course,
of course. But that is, I think, clearly being
allowed to get arrested for a parking ticket. Next thing you
know, you're up first edition. Yep. Yep. So when you send those
chats and Facebook and you're saying hi, you know, and Obama's
sucks, he stinks. To have that. You can't say anything. Don't
say anything. Just say Oh, Kim Kardashian looks fat. Yes.
Well, I think that will be a dog that you can't say those things.
Can't say hate speech. Yeah.
Random curry.
Curry. Now.
That's what's gonna happen. Yes, it's very bleak.
Yeah, you might as well just,
I don't want people to do I don't want people to be all, but
I don't want to depress you know,
it's funny to watch. Just kick back, relax. Watch your friends
melt into a blubbering blob of flesh on Facebook. And by the
way, that is how you will sound the
news that Google busted by the EU. Let's get look. This fit
does our minor tech news today. Ah,
do you want me to read that we know we don't need to do Yeah,
just
play the Today,
I hear ya the European
Union charge Google today with violating anti monopoly laws. It
is the latest move in a five year legal battle, and it could
lead to billions of dollars in fines. The EU's competition
commissioner said Google uses its dominance over internet
searches to promote its own services.
Our investigation so far has shown that when a consumer
enters a shopping related query in Google's search engine,
Google's comparison shopping product is systematically
displayed prominence at the top of the search results.
Wow, I wish I had something for that. I wish I had a you know
like a shocked I don't have to shocked
at Google's cheating. Who knew?
I'm shocked indeed. Well, I can always use this one.
Shocked shocked I am to find that John Fletcher screaming in
here you go.
Now we have an offer from the shocked guy. Yeah, we do. And
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those sources with that, with that sort of thing, so cool.
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There was an interesting story, just as we were talking about
the idiocy that's going on these days about and there's a great
term in here. And I'm not quite sure this one wonder this take
place in the in the clip where this happened. I just play and I
will respond to this race
statement from Montgomery County Child Protective Services today
did little to call the shockwave surrounding an incident. With
two local children taken into custody last night the six and
10 year olds have gained worldwide notoriety because
their parents allow them to be free range which means they can
walk together around their neighborhood without an adult.
Now, first of all, free range children. I didn't know this was
a term I'm loving it.
Because funny you say that because everybody this is one of
those cost celebrities that is usually on the right wing talk
shows and all the TV and Fox. They all use the term I'd never
heard it before. Parents apparently invented the term
from Walmart, there's a movement. If you listen to some
reports, there's a movement in the country of these adamant
parents who believe that their children should be able to walk
around the neighborhood by themselves or be in a park by
themselves. Yes. And they but the cops say no. Yeah, let's
listen to the rest of the poor and we'll discuss
every McCarren broke this story and she joins us this evening
from Silver Spring.
I can't believe we're going through this again. And
emotional Danielle may TV late last night after her two
children were finally returned to her by Child Protective
Services.
Well, the policeman said, we will give you a ride home bone,
we're like two blocks away. So he got into the car and then
about two and a half hours later. Instead he bring us here
10 year old Rafi and six year old Devorah had been playing at
the silver spring Park and we're walking home. But at 4:55pm
police received a call asking officers to check on the
children's welfare.
Somebody called 911. The police called CPS and they decided to
bring the kids here and they didn't call us
CPS finally called the main team three hours later, when they
were frantically searching for their missing children.
Andrea, thank you. The main teams had to sign a safety plan
with CPS last night to get their children back and it orders them
never to leave their children unaccompanied.
That's the part that's disturbing. A safety plan.
Yeah, the
so these kids are six and tender together. And I don't want to
sound like you know when I was a kid, but when I was a kid when I
was six, I'd be out roaming around and it's I don't believe
that the world has gotten so dangerous that kids can't walk
alone anymore. Certainly 10 year old. And when it was time for me
to come home. I hope you have your instrument near you. Do you
know how and I knew it was time for me to come home. Even if the
street lights weren't on yet, which was also a signal. My mom
had a slide whistle and she'd do a boson whistle. He do a boson
whistle.
I can't find my slide whistle. I can I can actually I have a real
boson. Do you have it there? Yeah, I don't have it in front
of me. Sorry. All right, maybe. Yeah, that was pretty bad. They
can do? Well, when I was in the third grade
how's it going to do
did a better job than that? Anyway, when I was in the third
grade, I'd be nine. And I was would commonly go with a couple
of my friends and there's nine euros and bicycle from from
within the woods now Fremont, it was Centerville, then to Niles
just kind of constant, we'd always go there through the
cherry fields and all the rest by the way,
we'd be making fires, we'd be getting into doing all kinds of
stuff going to construction sites, rock fights,
and when I was I lived in Chicago when I was 10. And we
would just go everywhere in the in the elevated the you know,
and it was not a big deal and nobody thought much about it.
And now these this 10 year old can't go to the park by himself
or you can't make no
no and it's you have to sign a safety order. What is this? This
is not okay. I
mean, this was I didn't expect to really talk about this, but
this is just more moronic activity by law enforcement, the
United States. But I think it's I think you got to be 20 to be
by yourself.
Well, it's also it's the it's the other people I'm gonna call
Child Protective Services. But it's just as nutty as calling
your free range kids. Free Range kid.
Funny all the kids
can do these days.
It's good social. That's all
you can do. Stay at home and just sit on Facebook and get
social and meltaway to a blog.
Get a big fat butt.
That's right. That's right. That is right. All right, we
shouldn't be whines down Johnny Boy because Because yeah, just
donations low. I gotta catch my plane.
You got a plane to catch I do I have a late start.
Did you know about this Walmart closing near you or near us? San
Francisco big Walmart. I don't know the big Walmart in San
Francisco something is up with the Walmart's
Yes. Somebody said that sent us a note saying they look into
this
issue extends way beyond this brand and Walmart that is close.
Take a look at this five Walmart's across the nation hit
we're closed Monday for months at a time because of these major
plumbing. All right.
Did you know about this?
I've read about it. Yeah, that we've got a Walmart in
Livingston, Texas. We've got one in Midland, Texas, Tulsa,
Oklahoma. And of course we have this one near Los Angeles. as
well as branded Walmart. I talked to Hillsborough County
and Walmart to get answers about why these plumbing repairs will
take so long. After a day illusion of shoppers lined up
for hours to get deals Monday, I just tried to go in the door and
it's like it's closed. Hundreds were turned away at the Walmart
superstore on East Brandon Boulevard Tuesday where they
found door shut and locked. The pharmacy guarded by security,
all because
and we were told that they were closing for plumbing issues.
Yeah,
a Walmart spokesperson says it's, quote, ongoing plumbing
issues that will require extensive repairs, closing the
store for four to six months.
That so that they're closing on the same day claiming plumbing
issues for four months. That's one thing what I found fun is
how the stupid slaves are confused. Oh, there's no
Walmart, what am I going to do? Where am I gonna get my food and
my stuff? And bro, I gotta do. This is an outrage the
government should step in.
On the next show, we're gonna have to talk a little bit about
this Iranian deal. Yo, because it seems to be falling apart in
some funny way that as though was planned to fall apart?
Well as Yeah, I think wasn't this exactly what we discussed
as the whole plan? Is the President even telegraph
telegraph by saying, Oh, don't let those stupid Republicans go
and ruin the deal. Don't let him ruin it. It's gonna it's a big
political election talking point. That's all that it's
promised the Democrats are all in with stopping it to at least
with the Senate. Republican thing?
Well, maybe it backfired. Maybe it was a strategy from Valerie
Jarrett and it backfired.
She's gonna be that would make no sense. She runs the place.
Well, I'm What am I saying she does run the
place. Hello, V. J 44.
Already, there's some interesting commentary, which is
going to annoy everybody, which is the clip I have is the
Iranian leaders, the great leaders. Coming up with this.
We'll just play this clip. And you'll see what I'm talking
about.
Iran's President today dismissed US Congressional pressure over a
potential nuclear deal. That's after President Obama accepted a
compromise giving the House and Senate a say Hassan Rouhani told
the crowd of 1000s that his government deals with world
leaders, not lawmakers. Hmm.
We don't deal with the way your system actually operates as a
constitutional democracy, that they don't, is that none. And so
the way we do things here, and we do our top guy talks to your
top guy, the two of them make a deal. And that is going to be
it's gonna knock that doesn't work. And it's going to cause
issues.
Well, it does relate directly to the Cotton letter, who said you
can't deal with our top leader because he's an Indian giver?
didn't exactly say that. But that's I think that's what they
were saying. There's not you can't be trusted, this guy who
can't be trusted is no good. No good.
This is a very interesting political football is being
passed around and we have to analyze it further. Also, we
talked about the new Associated Press report about the Veterans
Administration not doing the job. This may be part of a
concerted effort, which I think will fail. But Rachel Maddow
seems to have picked up because of some leaked tapes at a recent
meeting on this possibility, which I think is an interesting.
It's an interesting, paranoid prospect that she developed on
her show, and I don't like her show, and I don't necessarily
like her. But listen to this.
We have intentionally broaden the debate to include big
government dysfunction generally concerned veterans for America
and the Koch brothers network and the Republican presidential
candidates. They're taking an issue that used to be an
absolute third rail. But now when they find themselves
pushing on this issue, they are pushing on an open door, in part
because it is a door that they opened themselves, the VA is in
such bad shape. And none of its traditional vendors, defenders
feels like they can stand up for the status quo. Even though and
this is key, the VA Health Care System consistently gets better
ratings than the private health care system on just about every
metric, not just better outcomes, but higher
satisfaction rates among their patients. privatizing the VA,
I'm telling you is a sleeper issue for the 2016 campaign. The
Republican candidates are lining up in support. And the Democrats
and supporters of the VA
Wait a minute. She says privatizing the VA. This is her
thesis, Oh, interesting.
There's no evidence of this and the Republicans aren't lining up
in any sort of support that I can see. And there's no reason
to defend it because there's nothing going on. But she sees
this as happening. And it's actually I think, a pretty good
thesis based on that last report that You know the VA is screwing
up worse than they were before and this plant some of these
stores so and the Koch brothers being involved because they'd
like to privatize everything that's the way they brought I
just thought it was in unique perspective that yes was worth
talking about except for one thing did you use at the end of
it no here
not appear to have any strategy to respond to what is happening
on the right, there is a concerted but as yet low profile
push from the right right now to kill the VA.
All right, so now she never gets a spokesperson on she admits
from the VA to talk about any of these things. This time, she got
the head of the VA to come on the show she the guy comes on.
And he has for all projects. What he does is he he throws a
wet blanket over this theory, at the extremely wet blanket by
talking about how big it is just getting bigger, and they're
going to opens 27 new hospitals that are fixing all these
problems, and all the guy sounds like he's really got his act
together. And he fraught when I could tell. Everything she said
is just from his perspective is bullcrap. And he outlined that
but at the very end of it, she comes back saying, I don't know.
Yeah, he's gone. He's gone. Now. He said, I didn't think it's
still happening. They're gonna do this. And it's a little
nutty, but I was admired that she could come up with this
theory in the first place. Are you
are you are you feeling like you got a fever or some? Sorry? Do
you have a fever? Are you running a fever?
Am I Yes, I am. I'm running if you're admiring actually came up
with a reasonable prospect. Well, for a you watch doesn't
make any sense. And I was stunned by it sad, but I, but I
never thought of this this angle, which I should have. And
you know, but I think it's bullcrap. I think it's just
crazy fear mongering and you know, these people get involved
in it. She's a paranoid. But I still like to theory.
So that would probably have something to do with the with
hospital and Medicaid codes, which we're not going to discuss
right now. But I want to thank everybody. Everybody, we had not
met just breams of emails, very detailed from people every
perspective. And no perspective was identical.
No, they're all different. We had primary health people write
us we had heads of large insurance company data
processing centers, writers, we had everybody and their sister
from all
kinds of prescriptions appreciated. Lots of dudes named
Ben, everybody,
a fan. And then a lot of dudes they banded really don't have
anything to do with it. But they always have to throw their two
bids in, which is the annoying ones to me. Oh, I
didn't find anybody annoying. I appreciate it. Everybody's
email.
Well, whatever they say, we got a lot of stuff we have to we
have to distill.
Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot, but I like the ones that
say, well, you're both kind of right. And the one I appreciated
was John's right is the way it is right now. And Adams right is
the way it can be in the future. That made sense to me. But now
you throw this VA thing in there and it just feels like whoo,
boy, because a lot of these codes, you know, got sucked into
a jet engine while in Iraq. You know, that could be bad. You
know, mother in law hates you, because you're never home. But I
just all these things. I don't know that. The scary thing is
that nobody really knows exactly how it's how it's working. And
none of the systems talk to each other. And, you know, it's it
certainly seems like it's like it's depleting public funds.
One other thing and of course, the health care guy told us this
too, that the healthcare insurance companies are making
all the money Yeah, obviously we
know that yes, of course.
Anyone was fearful because of Obamacare fearing the wrong
thing. Anyway, that's we'll talk about that more anything else?
So catch a plane what Yeah, no, I
did your bags. I did uh, yeah. No. Time to go time to No, I'm
doing yeah knows this is not good. This is not good. All
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No, that was definitely not going to work. Definitely not
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I like the fact that T Mobile can save the day.
Yeah, that is kind of cool. The uncarrier is not what to call
the uncarrier. I don't know what they call themselves now.
Something like that. So I'll play the techno expert as
a public they would have been gobbled up gobbled up indeed.
See to have something else. We are good. I would say. Thank you
very much, John Claude.
And I want to remind people that it takes if you eat a soy
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those stats next time,
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