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What is he talking about? You
don't get a time out. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Sunday December 21 2014. Time
for your gizmo nation media

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assassination episode 680

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This is no agenda celebrating
the Solstice

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with a moon dance live from
finger region six in the

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capital, the drone Star State
Boston Tea House in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I'm under attack by ants.

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Johnson was killed.

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This is not the first time this
has happened that I can recall

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on the show. But this has
happened before.

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I may have have short happens
all the time. I'm glad live in

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California were victims of the
Argentinian and

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I remember having this in Los
Angeles. Remember, we had our

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attack? Yeah, they had circled
the whole house and then all of

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a sudden guess is when the big
rains came? Maybe?

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Oh yeah. They don't like being
in they don't like being

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drowned. No.

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And then they were coming
through the light sockets. Oh,

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yeah. You put something down on
the ground like a cup for two

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seconds and

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then it's astonishing how quick
they find something that

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is this not something that goes
all the way from the northwest

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all the way down to Mexico and
it's like one big colony this

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super colony or this

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is an interesting group they do
not get to Washington.

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Interesting group these these
ants because it's

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just one it's the only ant
variety of ant that that doesn't

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fight amongst themselves. So
really, one giant collective

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hive with the most answers, you
know, one hive sees another they

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go into both war try to kill
each other. But if like for

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example, you wipe out a nest of
these things. Once the

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stragglers and they go find
another nest. They're welcomed.

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So these like commie ants, yes,
they're

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communist dance. No wonder
they're all over California.

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And what are they got? They're
Argentinian. That's what they're

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called.

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They're Argentinian ads. You can
look them up fine. They're

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annoying very annoying Yes, but
they get it get it in their

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heads that they can do you know
be somewhere or do something

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they it takes days to get rid of
them

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okay? Why don't we just wrap
this up? How do you get rid of

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them John?

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You well you vacuum them up as
fast as you can you block their

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entrance you have the I use and
block with poison Yeah, that

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worked for I see him coming in
of course then they move to this

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coming in someplace else and you
just keep doing that. One of the

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things I've learned recently
which is kind of gruesome, but

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it works is you get one of the
yes this is good information for

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people on the coast or anyone is
confronted by these ads. You get

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a script Oh lighter.

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A script dolla lighter Yeah, one
of those lighters

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is lighter guns. Oh, barbecues.
Oh yeah. Find a bunch of these

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and use you fry them we got to
have the flame throwing Scripto

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version Yeah, yeah, you fret you
fry all there's many answers you

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can all everyone you see moving
you fry them all and leave them

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there

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so they send off a stamp and a
message.

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No, no, they get picked up. Oh,
the dead answer Yeah.

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Argentinian answer interesting
because they used to build most

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of their anthills they use their
own dead compatriots. Oh,

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my goodness. What an education
I'm receiving here Middle

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Ages used to do that with human
skulls and stuff in Spain is

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made out of skull. I

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think we do that in Corpus
Christi. Still,

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I wouldn't surprise me. Anyway,
so they take it a bit and when

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they get the ones back that have
been burnt to a crisp they send

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out the words that Oh, this
isn't good. And then they just

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disappear. You don't see him
again for weeks. Wow. Anyway,

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well this is this is as long as
they're not in the in the in the

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kitchen cabinets. Once that
happens then you're in deep

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shit. Well, so

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it's time to get to play with
the promise you gotta be careful

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don't catch the house on fire.
But you know burning these hands

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because you've died right now.
Their paperwork. I

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can't do we have Terminix take
care of all this for us in LA.

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I Oh, it's Yeah, but they don't
keep you to problem with the

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professionals. Is it? I don't
think they really for one thing.

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They're all high school drop. No
offense. I know there's a couple

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of guys, a lot of them don't
give a damn and they just assume

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kill you. Now.

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It's fine, fine, fine. All
right. You're in a bad mood

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clearly.

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Would you be in a bad mood? You
had ants crawling all over? I

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have so

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much. Yeah, I can be in a bad
mood. But I'm not going to be

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the x I'm in a bad mood for
different reasons. May I? Okay,

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hit it. This past week, twice.
And the week before that. I go

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on Facebook, which as you know,
I don't do regularly but I do at

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least every 48 hours I'll check
in. And again, it's two people I

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know who are dead. And this is
so depressing. Matthew Hennessy,

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who works at my company in New
York think new ideas and he had

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moved to the Austin area. I
don't know how long ago and when

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I arrived here, and Matt is 41
42 was, and he's like, Hey, man,

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it's Adam. Good. Good to have
you here man. Twitter Facebook.

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Is it? Yeah, we should have a
drink. Oh, yeah, I've definitely

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yeah, that was a good guy. So
I'll figure we'll do that one

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day. And then in your timeline
show us Oh, well, he's dead.

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Cool once Yeah. And well, I'll
get to was eat 41 token sound

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right now. Then we have Celeste
Ruffo. Now we already lost

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Warren cooker. Warren cuckoo.
Reuleaux. There are two camera

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people at MTV. Warren and
Celeste and Warren died. They

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probably both died of lung
cancer because they were

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smoking. We were all smokers
back in and we'd be smoking in

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the studio before we did a
segment on put this put the

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cigarette down. Warren died two
years ago. And Celeste who was

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Emmy award winning camera when
went on after MTV to do a lot of

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incredible stuff. But you know,
it's like when somebody who for

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seven or eight years you've
looked at them looking at you,

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you build up a very strange
relationship, but it is a bond

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of some sorts. And then it's
like, oh, well, Celeste is dead.

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62 Now here's the thing that
pisses me off one I open up

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Facebook, all I get is dead
people. This is the fuck this.

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This is annoying. To you never
find out what happened because

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that's what you want to say,
shoo, what happened? What

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happened? How did they die? But
of course, everyone's too polite

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and doing rip is a miss you. I
want to know what happened. And

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then of course, I sit down I
just type in like, will somebody

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please tell me what happened?

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Did you do that? And it
expressed this kind of, kind of

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sort of wait a minute. So you're
complaining about the politeness

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and then you go polite?

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No, I went on polite, actually.
And I actually I even posted I

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want to hold hands with
everybody now and tell a secret?

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Well, yeah, and then everyone
thinks I'm a dick, of course.

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But I really want everyone think
you're a dick because then you

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didn't do rip, you're not
respectful. Rip rip rip. And I

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realized that I'm 50. Now who
knows how long I hope I live to

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be like my grandparents 98 That
would be great. And it'd be

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really nice to be genetic
hunchbacked over, but I'll have

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all my hair and I'll be coming.
Make sure you have a

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cane that you can lift up those
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That's it. That's a very, very,
very good tip. Thank you. Thank

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you for this tip. John C.
Dvorak. C stands for cane and

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now we know

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it's becoming a good thing.

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And it's it's very, yes, it's
very, very versatile. But here's

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what I here's what I realized.
That's it when I die no matter

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what it is. There'll be rip a
slew of rip. Oh, Dana Miller. I

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took Dana Miller died. Who said
Dana Miller, Dana Miller was my

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radio cindicator And Dana was
his boyfriend died 25 years ago

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of AIDS and Dana became this
huge AIDS activist ran the Elton

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John AIDS Foundation, the AIDS
Project Los Angeles, and Dana,

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and it was also a but he was a
manager like Rick Springfield,

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Corey Hart, but also the Andy
Gibb like a real death around

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Dana all the time. Every dodge
died eventually, but but he was

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a very strong force. Dana like
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60 juicers to be the Yeah, and

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I've been you know what everyone
around Dana dies Dana doesn't

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die. These ants are dying,
that's for sure. And so anyway,

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I realized that's what it's
gonna be. I'm gonna die one day

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and it'll be No sir. No one will
care by the time I'm dead. No,

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we'll just be just be a thread
on Facebook. RIP,

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RIP. Oh boy, Facebook, just to
say this and rip,

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everybody. When you post
pictures of the dead people.

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Well remember this one? Yeah,
remember this one? And then

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someone will come in and say, I
just want to say right now I

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love all of you.

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It's about the method or the
rationale or the reason for the

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dead how we die, you know? Slow,
miserable death tortured by

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terrorists. Nothing.

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No, nothing. And then no one's
honest. Of course, you know, no

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one's honest. though. It may be
it's like a wake up

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gin. Yeah, I know. There's been
instances where somebody died.

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And you say to yourself, Jesus
was about time, that prick I

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mean, that's what you think. I
mean, what can you say? I mean,

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that would seem to be something
of you are being honest. It has

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to happen with a number of
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now so so I'm now completely
pissed off with this. And I call

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let me know more Facebook. Let
me go to Twitter. And then I see

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now I've seen everything. I see
a face photo with the caption

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perfect rainy day breakfast egg
roasting style potatoes and

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English bangers posted by at the
real Devorah you are now a food

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social network tweeter yeah,

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I've decided this is this is
ruining everything knowing that

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your this urge you to know
extreme you know or that means

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a lot more of this.

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Well I have like, It's curious
because JC started the idea he

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started taking pictures of all
the dinners.

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Because it's so wrong. Your food
looks like crap. It's hard to

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make food look good. The bangers
look undercooked. The egg is

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burnt on the edges. The roasting
looks kind of good. You put

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ketchup on it to ruin the taste.

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No, no, no. Ketchup in potatoes
American way. That's true. And

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abandoned. roasties roasty
whatever it is. Yeah, the AG is

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is is cooked hot. So I get a
nice crispy little edge around

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it. And Did did you actually,
she would say whatever it is,

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you're gonna bitch about it. So
it doesn't mean anything.

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Right? My opinion is useless. I
totally

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started taking pictures of all
the dinners. And so I took a

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few. He says I said what are you
doing? He says I'm taking

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pictures of the food. To post

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it's time for this kid to get
his own apartment. So

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he says that he studied this. He
says if you want to get more

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followers, you want lots of
pictures of food. He's

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documented this that's
interesting because I gotta get

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over the hill here. I'm stuck at
99,000 followers I need to go to

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like 100 Will

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you if you blocked? If you
unblocked a couple people maybe

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your count would go up? I doubt
it. I think I think that that

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Doc from your count if you

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Yeah, does. Yeah, once you block
him you can actually

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block a beat 200,000 If you
unblock everybody down Yeah. Oh,

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right.

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So anyway, so I've decided I'm
gonna follow suit and start

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posting pictures of food with
maybe some food tips

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sad very sad. Well, the food
tips will be good. All right.

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The good news is I found a I
found out that at Universal

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Studios they have a Universal
Studios the tour for if you've

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never been on it, there's it's
changed a lot over the years.

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And you can get out and you
don't have to sit in the stupid

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bus the whole time. You probably
don't have to sit in it at all

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if you don't want to. But you
know, Megatron, Megatron, Is he

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is he a transcript talking about

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Universal Studios in Los
Angeles? Yes, yes, I am. The one

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in Florida in Orlando is just
like this might you might as

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well be at Disneyland. Okay.

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Megatron, Megatron is Megatron.
Is he a transformer or is he one

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of the yes it's a transformer?
Yeah, so they have a dude in a

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Megatron suit. And, and he is he
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selfies. And it's consistent. So
here's this girl she she runs up

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in front of Megatron and you
have selfie? And listen to what

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he then does you got to see the
video actually it's even cooler

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because the guy is you know it's
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behind her.

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You will not receive a selfie so
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because you're ridiculous. First
of all, you learn that your

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status updates means zero to
nothing new to anyone. Doesn't

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matter which social network you
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mind creates new memories
interact. Don't just add it to a

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library of photographs. Okay.
Generation is by AI is good.

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How disappointing your
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subclipse is what you should
save for an evergreen How

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disappointing you're generally I
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to isolate it but doesn't
doesn't really doesn't really

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work very well right now. No.
But I like that and there's

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always a backup gig for me, I
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Yeah, no, I think you could
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be the Megatron man. Well, you
have your own version of it

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Marika

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Marika. Marika intended to say
maraca but yeah, no, I

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meant Marika. I

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know you met Marika. Hey, John,
do you know that we are from the

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future? You wanna tell me more
than you? But sometimes, you

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know, by bringing you along on
my future travel? Yeah.

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And what happened? What's the
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I want to take us back to
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and universe that was so good.
So what's that now two weeks

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ago? Was it in seventh September
we on we're at so that's three.

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Yeah, almost two weeks ago. Oh,

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okay.

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And here is what we talked we
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talking about Uncle Don, and how
he agreed that, that South

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Korea, we are performing a sales
job on South Korea since they

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are not going to be responsible
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and we were kind of laughing
about how we create all these

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reasons for for countries and I
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and it's a sales job everything
we do is a sales job to sell

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more weapons.

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Right exactly. That's what we do
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is essentially a reverse
somebody would somebody would

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point I pointed back and forth
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they just said well, I don't
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why the Oh, I know that I know
that voice. I know this guy.

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This chat was at the Chinese who
bought all these Russian reactor

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India. Oh, why didn't General
Electric makes reactors How come

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they didn't sell these reactors?
Why is Russia get this 24

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reactor contractors?

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She broomball I'd say

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and I well the besides I think
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it's just a better deal. But no
do the deal in dollars anyway,

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ironically. And I said well,
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sort of deals are done by this
chief sales guy who is either

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Obama or Putin was there you
know, doing the deal to get this

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contract signed? Because that's
what they do. Yeah, there's the

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President of the United States
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industrial complex, literally
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in one way or another. They call

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him the chief executive.

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Yeah, he's the chief executive.

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Alright, so here we were talking
about this in relation to South

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Korea. And this is before the
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talking about South Korea and of
course the keeping North Korea

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dangerous as part of the sales
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the Korean peninsula. This kind
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the next period of that is now
fine being financed that I

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presume the bill is gonna pass
we will see North Korea being

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very very dangerous and us
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our allies

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can you mentioned so? Stop?
You're playing a clip.

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Yes, I am playing a clip. Yeah.
Well, you have to say I said,

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we're playing a clip.

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Yeah, you said that but then you
never the transition was vague.

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So it sounds like you're just
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the quality of these audio is on
our show. So sorry. I'm

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listening to this and this is
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thing what's he leading up?

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Why is he doing this again? I'm
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to you having the punchline

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right. Okay, now started to do
now start the clip now

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whole Okay, over again, and I'll
do I will separate it. To

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address the threats from the
Korean peninsula. This kind of

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tells you that at least for the
next period of that is now fun

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being financed that presumed the
bills gonna pass. We will see

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North Korea being very, very
dangerous, and us helping our

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and ourselves and our allies and
Japan and the Republic of Korea

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with some sales. That's

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fine. It feels sorry for the
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they're a punching bag. They're
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mechanism.

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They well, isn't it? Isn't that
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to start with?

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Well, it looks like it in
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There you go. We called it Yeah,
of course. Oh, I'd forgotten

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about it. Oh, completely
forgotten about it. Well, I

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haven't forgotten about the
other angle that we're seeing

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here which is

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well your angle is right on the
money John. Like completely

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right on the money the angle of
getting everybody to sign on to

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the cyber sharing bill. And the
President signed five bills in

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the middle of the night. The
ones we discussed all about the

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sharing but even better than
that. She just came out and said

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it. Did you see this whole year
Ender thing that he did I have

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the two clips. Okay, I have a
couple of clips too. So I'll

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that let me do my to do that. I
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as I can. And I have a couple
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interesting side clips. Yeah.
But well, here's the clip of I

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want to play this clip first and
make a comment on it. This is

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the Obama we do not need to bid
dictators telling us what to do.

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So that's not who we are. That's
not what Americans about. Again,

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I'm sympathetic that Sony as a
private company was worried

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about liabilities and this and
then the other. I wished they

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had spoken to me first, I would
have told them do not get into a

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pattern in which you're
intimidated by these kinds of

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criminal attacks. Imagine if,
instead of it being a cyber

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threat, somebody had broken into
their offices, and destroyed a

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bunch of computers and stolen
discs, and

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did this clip, he rolls off it
goes off the rail with this

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clip.

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Yes. Did you also see Sony CEO
Michael Lintons response? No, I

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didn't. I have this. It's a
little longer than what you just

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did. But the whole thing is
great. And it's something very

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fascinating. The very beginning
of this president says Sony made

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a mistake. And by the way, Sony
rebutted earlier in in print

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that they had contacted the I
think they said the CIA, which

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is interesting since the FBI
came out with the analysis and

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the weak forensics. But they
said we were in touch with the

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authorities from day one. So
that's not true that they didn't

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contact anybody in the film.

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Did you make a mistake?

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No, I, I think actually, the
unfortunate part is in this

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instance, the president, the
press and the public, are

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mistaken as to what actually
happened. We do not own movie

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theaters, we cannot determine
whether or not a movie will be

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played in movie theaters. So to
sort of rehearse for a moment,

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the sequence of events. Now this

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was very interesting when I
heard him say this. This is how

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media training and PR can go
awry. And I didn't notice it

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until I heard the clip. I was
watching the video first.

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Instead of saying to review the
timeline. He says Let's rehearse

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the timeline. I heard that too,
which is interesting, which to

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me means that he was rehearsed.
And someone said, Okay, let's

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rehearse the timeline again.
Well, don't you think?

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I'd like to believe that's,
that's what he's that he's in

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the business of using words
wrong, you know, and that's his

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business and somebody just
doesn't know the right word,

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movie theaters, we cannot
determine whether or not a movie

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will be played in movie
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for a moment, the sequence of
events from we experienced the

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worst cyber attack in American
history.

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Okay. I don't know about that.
That's dubious Shelly Adelson

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might have a different view of
that as his casino, but they

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stole millions of dollars and
shut down his operations at

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banksearch Row knows this is
totally but it's rehearsed,

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and persevered for three and a
half weeks under enormous

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stress.

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And by the way, I have people on
the inside and I have a couple

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emails to share. The network is
still down inside Sony people's

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machine. desktop machines are
still have the the desktop GOP

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image, which of course is easy
to deploy if you're in an IT

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environment

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and enormous difficulty. And all
with the effort of trying to

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keep our business up and running
and get this movie out into the

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public. Oh, yes. When it came to
the crucial moment, when a

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threat came out from what was
called the GOP at the time,

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threatening audiences who would
go to the movie theaters. The

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movie theaters came to us one by
one. Over the course of a very

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short period of time, we were
completely surprised by it and

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announced that they would not
carry the movie. At that point

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in time. We had no alternative
but to not proceed with a

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theatrical release on the 25th
of December. So we had that's

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all we did. So you have not
caved in your we have not caved.

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We have not given in. We have
persevered and we have not

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backed down. We have we have
always had every desire to have

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the American public see this
movie. You are well

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known as a somebody who's
supported President Obama. Yes.

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Were you disappointed in
whatever today?

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I would be fibbing to say I
wasn't disappointed. I you know,

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the President and I haven't
spoken. I don't know exactly

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whether he understands the
sequence of events that led up

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to the movies not being shown in
the movie theaters. And

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therefore, I would disagree with
the notion that it was a

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mistake. It's a general really
held view by the public and the

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press that that's what happened
and maybe that's how that view

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was was held by by him but
knowing as I do the the facts

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and how they and how they've
been unfolded, you know, we

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stood stood extremely firm in
terms of making certain that

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this movie would appear in movie
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it's a very important important
piece of work. And I will say

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that you know, the Christmas Day
release is you do focus a lot of

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energy on that. Well, a lot of
money a lot of promotion.

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It air the shell, who is a big
movie buff, oh, ages, I don't

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have these in front of me. But
he went off the top of his head

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with about 10 blockbusters that
are all coming out around the

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same time. And it'd be crazy to
bring this movie because it's

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gonna fail. Well,

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I don't know. I mean, this is
the movie itself, as we know is

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this is not important. No, I
made it was made important all

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of a sudden just made a note.
The cybersecurity bills are

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signed, did you get the
President talking about the

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actually got about

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the signing, but let me play the
rest of these couple of these

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clips. This is the we do not
push up put up with the this is

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the WE DO NOT part two. But
that's a

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that's a play that I played Part
Two first, I'm sorry. You know,

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no wonder it didn't make sense.
Yes, my mistake, I want to play

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part one now then,

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no skip part one, I didn't play
that confirming goal of

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government. This is where my
thesis this is all about getting

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these companies scared. So they
have to join with our genius

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government, who can't even run a
public health website. But they

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want they're going to help you.

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When I came into office, I stood
up cybersecurity interagency

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team, to look at everything that
we can do at the government

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level. To prevent these kinds of
attacks. We've been coordinating

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with the private sector, and he
got a whole lot more needs to be

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done. We're not even close to
where we need to be. And one of

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the things in the new year that
I hope Congress is prepared to

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work with us on is strong cyber
security laws that allow for

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information sharing, across
private sector platforms, as

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well as the public sector, so
that we are incorporating best

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practices and preventing these
attacks from happening in the

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first place.

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00:27:25,290 --> 00:27:28,260
These are all now passed, the
President signed five of them,

448
00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:32,670
we read at least two of them to
you the cybersecurity sharing.

449
00:27:33,330 --> 00:27:40,020
Bill is is in is in. I'm but I'm
very worried. John, I need to

450
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:42,690
come on. Can I take you another
sidetrack for a moment? You

451
00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:45,450
do that? I just want to make
some bad comment, which is the

452
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:48,660
Sony guys very disappointed all
the rest of it. But he he

453
00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:52,200
obviously is be he he doesn't
get what's going on. Now. He

454
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,720
doesn't and of course not what's
going on, it's got nothing to do

455
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,510
with Sony or anybody else's to
get these damn companies to

456
00:27:57,510 --> 00:28:01,560
join, you know, to do a deal
with the government intelligence

457
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,010
agencies to share data. And this
is going to be it and this is of

458
00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:10,320
course, a continuation of a
fascist state and, and raishin

459
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,460
and government working together.

460
00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:15,060
And it's also part of the sales
job.

461
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,940
Right? Yeah, no, it's a double
hit.

462
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:21,120
Now let's, uh, when when will it
now here's where it gets a

463
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:27,240
little frightening. I'm perusing
around, and there's the Texas

464
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,680
Tribune. Newspaper, and they
have they do this, I don't know,

465
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,510
regular interviews, the I guess
the the editor in chief. And

466
00:28:36,510 --> 00:28:41,400
they bring on a freshman
Congressman, who will be who was

467
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,080
just now voted in and who will
be a Republican in the House

468
00:28:46,110 --> 00:28:48,930
starting next January, whenever
they start the new session. His

469
00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:55,410
name is Wil Hurd. Hu rd, and
we'll heard is a it's I think

470
00:28:55,410 --> 00:28:59,430
it's unprecedented. He is going
to be chairing not a committee,

471
00:28:59,430 --> 00:29:04,920
probably a subcommittee of the
Intelligence Committee. He will

472
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,580
be on the department Homeland
Security Committee. This is not

473
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,730
very typical, or let's just say
it's a typical for a freshman

474
00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:16,650
Congressman to come in. Now.
This guy, I think, is very

475
00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:20,850
dangerous. We have to keep our
eye on guys like this. And he's

476
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
he looks like he's seven feet
tall black guy from Texas

477
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,120
wearing boots. You know, he's
got he's got a very dynamic.

478
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:31,950
Look. He's got a very big
presence about him. He claims

479
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:35,160
that he is well, he's an expert
in everything. And this is what

480
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,710
really bothered me about the guy
who was always saying like, Oh,

481
00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:40,860
yeah, well, you know, this is,
in fact, let me let me play this

482
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:43,440
out of order. I'll tell you why
I didn't trust him right off the

483
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,050
bat. He's asked about President
Obama's actions on Cuba. And

484
00:29:49,050 --> 00:29:50,040
here's what he says. Now,

485
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:51,900
you know, people were talking
about, you know, the embargoes

486
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:54,480
Get Lifted Well, that's gonna
take an act of Congress, you

487
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,470
know, the Liberty right act of
of 86 kind of codified or

488
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,980
embargo with them, so Hey, I
look forward to being in that

489
00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:04,230
conversation and having
conversation because that's my

490
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:06,480
background. That's my, my
expertise.

491
00:30:06,510 --> 00:30:08,970
So this is background. That's
his expertise. But then later

492
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:11,040
he's going to talk about his
background. His expertise is

493
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,630
computers and cybersecurity. The
problem here is the Libra Todd

494
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:19,830
Act was 1996, not 1986. So right
off the bat, I'm like this guy.

495
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:24,930
And if they said 76, he said,
86, it's 96. And so right away,

496
00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:28,110
I'm like, This guy, this I don't
like this guy. And then now

497
00:30:28,110 --> 00:30:31,050
let's This is the kind of person
because of course, we know,

498
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,840
almost nobody knows computers,
they don't run computers, they

499
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,350
don't have iPads. They don't
know anything in Congress. We've

500
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:41,220
we've seen this time and time
again, Janet Napolitano ran

501
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:44,850
Department of Homeland Security,
but she claimed she did not use

502
00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:48,480
a computer or didn't write a lot
of people. She said, a lot of

503
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,540
these people don't, can't won't
don't understand it. Now they

504
00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:54,690
bring in this one guy. And of
course, in the land of the

505
00:30:54,690 --> 00:30:57,960
blind, one eye is king. And this
you can hear how he speaks. He's

506
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,910
a Silicon Valley douchebag from
Texas. Hey, guy, and yeah, but

507
00:31:02,910 --> 00:31:05,820
that listen to how he Trump's
his CIA credits.

508
00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:07,500
You know, this, this is
something I have a little bit of

509
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:08,190
experience while

510
00:31:08,190 --> 00:31:10,230
you're a cybersecurity guy. So
you understand, yeah, I'm

511
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:11,400
a cyber security guy.

512
00:31:11,850 --> 00:31:15,510
My degree was in computer
science. Alright. It's an array

513
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:18,450
when it's just right all the
time was in the CIA. I was

514
00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:21,090
undercover officer and my job
was collecting intelligence on

515
00:31:21,090 --> 00:31:23,940
threats to the homeland. I also
did some offensive cyber

516
00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:24,570
operations.

517
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:29,070
Oh, I did some offensive cyber
operations. This this guy sounds

518
00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:30,570
like he's full of shit.

519
00:31:30,780 --> 00:31:34,020
Yeah, he's a phony as well,
penetrating the networks of

520
00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:36,630
folks that were hostile to us.
Oh, and then, you know, when I

521
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:40,860
got out of the agency and been
in business last five years, I

522
00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:41,640
helped start, can you

523
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,760
even talk about that? If he was
CIA can even say, Yeah, we

524
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,880
penetrated some networks of
folks that we can even talk

525
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,720
about these things like seems
very unlikely. I don't think so.

526
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,920
To us. And then, you know, when
I got out of the agency and been

527
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,220
in business last five years, I
helped start a cybersecurity

528
00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:00,780
company. Oh, really?

529
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:03,120
Oh, he helped start a
cybersecurity company. So we're

530
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,280
not going to come in because he
knows everything about

531
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,950
cybersecurity or at least how to
outsource it.

532
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:10,500
We basically breaking the banks,
steal their money, show them how

533
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:10,980
we did it.

534
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:14,700
breaking the bank, steal their
money, show it and hate this guy

535
00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:15,240
to protect

536
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,040
our digital infrastructure. He
saw his

537
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,110
obvious Boney Yeah, but

538
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:23,100
this listen to how he's gonna be
running the show threats to

539
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:26,100
this is not the first dumb Fox
has been running the show that

540
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:29,880
Obama brought in, if you
remember, well, old skip logic,

541
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,920
whatever his name was. CTO at
Kandra. Kandra.

542
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:38,760
Oh, you know, we also have Meg.
Megan Smith is now the CTO.

543
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,970
Yeah, Megan Smith, she's writing
me letters. Hold on, let's

544
00:32:41,970 --> 00:32:42,930
finish this guy, you gotta hear

545
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,410
our digital infrastructure is
coming from all places. And one

546
00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:48,630
of the things that I think the
federal government does a poor

547
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:53,310
job of, is we nicing bullshit
artists. And the federal

548
00:32:53,310 --> 00:32:55,980
government goes in and ask
business, tell me more about

549
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:58,380
this threat, you know, we need
to learn more, how are they

550
00:32:58,380 --> 00:33:00,930
doing this? Give us the details
in getting down into ones and

551
00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:04,590
zeros, right. But the federal
government rarely goes back and

552
00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:07,470
helps a business and gives the
business information on the

553
00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:09,780
threat that they may know, in
order to help that business

554
00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:12,630
protect themselves. And I think
this is probably one of the

555
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:14,880
examples and and I'm excited
because I'm gonna be in a

556
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,880
position to do something about
this in this next Congress. I'm

557
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,100
going to be on the Oversight and
Government Reform Committee.

558
00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:24,060
This is a committee that
investigated Benghazi or the

559
00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:26,970
investigation of Benghazi got
started, right. This is where

560
00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:30,300
Fast and Furious was
investigated. And I'm gonna be

561
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:33,330
the chairman of a subcommittee
on Information Security and

562
00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:36,060
Information Technology. Right.
And so I'm the only pressure for

563
00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:36,150
a

564
00:33:36,150 --> 00:33:38,610
laugh geo net. Well, yeah,

565
00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:42,900
that's a has a chair of a
subcommittee. And to be able to

566
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,390
use my background experience on
this issue and talk about

567
00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:48,990
information sharing, talk about
the threats to some of these

568
00:33:48,990 --> 00:33:51,840
other groups and how that we can
work to protect our critical

569
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,140
infrastructure is frightening to
you all, how we can do this to

570
00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:58,680
protect our nation and
ultimately consumer information.

571
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:58,830
But

572
00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:01,110
you're also on the Homeland
Security Committee. As of last

573
00:34:01,110 --> 00:34:05,040
week, Chairman Cole has has
arranged for you in writing, I'm

574
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,850
looking for the members of the
of the Homeland Security from a

575
00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:12,000
homeland security perspective,
is it a good idea to come back

576
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,190
the original question, though,
for us to be essentially

577
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:17,280
capitulating to the threats and
demands of the peoples and

578
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,660
events? Odds

579
00:34:18,689 --> 00:34:21,419
now look, you don't you don't
negotiate with with baggage you

580
00:34:21,419 --> 00:34:24,269
don't negotiate with terrorists.
And to me in this case, you

581
00:34:24,269 --> 00:34:27,659
know, we should shame the North
Koreans, in my opinion, when it

582
00:34:27,659 --> 00:34:30,959
comes to their technical
sophistication. You know,

583
00:34:30,959 --> 00:34:34,619
they're in kind of tier two. And
look, we shouldn't capitulate

584
00:34:34,619 --> 00:34:37,289
for these guys. Yeah, you know,
it's we need to roll up we need

585
00:34:37,289 --> 00:34:40,079
to roll up. Make a fist,
sometimes

586
00:34:40,110 --> 00:34:43,740
make a fist. These people scare
me John. These are the people

587
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:46,800
who are going in right he's a
bull crap artists. You're right.

588
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,400
That's what he is. Read a
cybersecurity of after doing

589
00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:53,190
offensive cyber attacks in CIA,
which I can't talk

590
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,070
for the banks and show them how
we did it. Yeah, charging them

591
00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:59,280
for it this sub clip from the
banks it's shown

592
00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:05,010
again that's what I that's my
next my next career stealing

593
00:35:05,010 --> 00:35:09,870
from the banks show him how he
did it Steven from the bank show

594
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:12,600
him how he did it Jake I'm not a
doctor and neither were you

595
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:20,010
dammit Jim I'm a doctor not a
diplomat and you go email quick

596
00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:27,030
emails the insider emails dude
named Ben okay okay let me just

597
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:29,490
said these have been redacted
obviously because these are

598
00:35:29,490 --> 00:35:33,690
people who are inside or close
or whatever. So this job not as

599
00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:36,360
easy as flipping on a switch I'm
sure you know the FBI and Sony

600
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,730
to the best of their knowledge
believe it to be North Korea,

601
00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:42,900
but read enemies and I would say
the book enemies The book

602
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:45,750
describes about as competent as
I think the FBI are okay, I

603
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:49,020
think it's North Korea. This is
our our insider but I think it's

604
00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:52,170
also an inside job. I believe
there to be a number of groups

605
00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:59,730
involved. He says di N Ben
hacktivists North Korea the cash

606
00:35:59,730 --> 00:36:03,420
symbol the true culprits will
never be found. This is no

607
00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:06,480
simple job. Now here comes the
interesting part. Ever since

608
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Bain Capital came in and started
going after middle management

609
00:36:10,590 --> 00:36:15,120
this does not surprise me. I
even saw Bain This is Mitt

610
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,980
Romney's company. I even saw
Bain take a long time to take a

611
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:24,150
longtime executive directors
office and kick them out just

612
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:28,710
because the bain dude like the
view is it customary that Bain

613
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:31,860
stays inside the company whose
people it is trying to fire I

614
00:36:31,860 --> 00:36:34,110
would say yes that is very
customary. This is what these

615
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:38,340
guys do. So Bane were really the
people who came in and started

616
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:45,630
to clean house. And then from a
visual effects inside I've been

617
00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:48,870
working in the visual effects
industry for over 15 years been

618
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:52,020
part of huge visual effects
centric films James Bond Harry

619
00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:55,080
Potter films, Disney Marvel, you
name it. I have plenty of

620
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,620
friends at Sony. Here the points
I reckon are worth noting about

621
00:36:58,620 --> 00:37:01,110
Sony and why I do agree this
should have this probably

622
00:37:01,110 --> 00:37:04,620
started as an inside job and
spun out of control in the media

623
00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:07,410
manipulation machine. So an
interest only picture image

624
00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:10,980
works is what the digital
division this is what we were

625
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:14,610
talking about the disgruntled
employees due to tax credits

626
00:37:14,610 --> 00:37:18,870
offered by Canadia they were
relocating work to Vancouver.

627
00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:25,200
Now there's tax credits there
for the studio so not the

628
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,280
company's doing the work. Lots
of people lost their jobs and or

629
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,160
were asked to move to Vancouver
think about 1000 people that

630
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,380
have worked in invested in a
place for years with families

631
00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:37,890
and everything. Sony Pictures
Imageworks used to be at the

632
00:37:37,890 --> 00:37:40,590
forefront of this industry
winning Oscars making kick ass

633
00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:42,960
technology and movies. The last
two years have been horrible.

634
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,510
Morale was low. Movies are bad.
From Smurfs to Hotel

635
00:37:48,510 --> 00:37:51,750
Transylvania, people were losing
their jobs and those who moved

636
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:56,010
are working for crap movies. On
top of that, the top technology

637
00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:59,820
officers quit adding fire to
everything. All this is

638
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:01,860
something I've lived through the
eyes of my colleagues very

639
00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:04,650
possible this started in that
division because of just the

640
00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:09,960
people just completely bummed
out. And the visual effects

641
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,010
industry has always been under
pressure. Oh, yeah. No union and

642
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,240
all kinds of crap. No, they

643
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,930
fact, I was a special on one of
these. One of the, I think it

644
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:21,870
was on PBS actually. And they
were talking about these, these

645
00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:24,630
guys. They're like vagabonds,
they start one company like

646
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:28,080
visual, Industrial Light and
Magic. And then they have spin

647
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,800
offs. And then they destroy all
their models and go digital. And

648
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,710
it's expensive to start up
because the computer power you

649
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:37,680
need to do this with modern
stuff, not just a couple of

650
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,620
iPhones. And it's then you never
get paid enough. You always get

651
00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:43,380
ripped off by the studio's uh,
you know, because it's very

652
00:38:43,380 --> 00:38:45,840
expensive to do some of these
things, it looks you know, it's

653
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,620
not using the computer doesn't
make the film cheaper, right? If

654
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:53,370
you do it right, you know, the
real deal. And ya know, it's a

655
00:38:53,370 --> 00:38:53,790
nightmare.

656
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:56,940
And I believe that have no have
no union, I think that's the

657
00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:57,750
main thing

658
00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:00,090
was because they're all
independent. So if you look on

659
00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,000
the, on the credit roll, it's
always these little companies

660
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,940
that they used to do this and
that, and you know, they're not

661
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:07,650
going to unionize, they can't
afford it.

662
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:12,330
Let's look at their two fabulous
quotes from the media. Now, as

663
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:16,740
you know, one of my pet peeves
is how the press reports on

664
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,580
matters of technology, because
they think technology is tech

665
00:39:20,580 --> 00:39:25,350
which means phones. And there's
very little information really

666
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:29,610
about what is going on here is
first rich, Laurie. He's from

667
00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:32,670
the National Review and listen
to how he perceives what

668
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:34,140
happened inside Sony.

669
00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:36,870
What do you make of it? What do
you make of what Obama said

670
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:39,090
about it? Where do we all take
all this?

671
00:39:39,509 --> 00:39:42,299
The whole of this, by the way is
on PBS

672
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:47,160
issue is astonishing. And just
extremely disturbing. It's like

673
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:51,540
Adolf Hitler being able to reach
into this country in the 1930s

674
00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:54,270
and stop Charlie Chaplin from
making fun of him. I mean, this

675
00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:59,790
is a Seth Rogen a James Franco
movie, it's a threat to no one

676
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,230
And if they didn't just reach in
and steal these emails which

677
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:07,200
were disseminated all over the
place, I mean, they really tried

678
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,790
to prevent the functioning of
the company by melting its hard

679
00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:13,500
drives and all the rest of it.

680
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:22,140
Okay, hello, hello. But I doubt
they melted the hard drives. I

681
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:24,750
don't think they melted the hard
drives. So

682
00:40:24,810 --> 00:40:29,100
I really, it's a very bad
precedent. I think they should

683
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:32,670
have released the movie in one
form or another everybody saying

684
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,520
if they couldn't have gotten it
in theaters, given the terror

685
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,760
threat, they should have
released it online. And it's

686
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,840
ultimately a national security
issue. It's agents of a foreign

687
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,330
power reaching into this country
and punishing a movie movie

688
00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:51,450
studio for exercising its free
speech rights in a way that

689
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:52,500
foreign power doesn't like.

690
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,130
You know, there was a clip I
don't know if I have that. On

691
00:40:56,130 --> 00:40:58,740
this. Well, yeah, I do. I want
to play this because I got a

692
00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:03,600
comment on this. See what Andrea
Mitchell Brooks, this is, you

693
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,260
know, Brooks and shields a
little to Tucson that commentate

694
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,540
on PBS news hour

695
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,270
or the dancing. Summer Wine.
Summer Breeze. Oh, that's always

696
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:15,720
a group.

697
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,060
It's good. Mr. Brooks and done.
Anyway, some Brooks and shields

698
00:41:21,090 --> 00:41:25,920
they come out and did that we've
closed the book on themselves

699
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,830
when they both came out in
favor, you know, with the with

700
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:34,230
the CIA, who cited you? We
played MLS already sold out. So

701
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:37,410
we know that they're stooges.
All right. So here's another

702
00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:39,840
example of a celebrity guest.
They're all in now. So this is

703
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,710
Brooks in his comments. And this
is Brooks proves he's a stooge

704
00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:48,900
cyber attack on Sony Pictures.
First of all, the president said

705
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:51,690
flat out today that Sony made a
mistake. What do you think?

706
00:41:51,930 --> 00:41:55,680
Yeah, I guess I think so. You
know, it's, it's, you know, like

707
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,170
I said, we can't have a country
where people are self censoring.

708
00:41:58,590 --> 00:41:59,580
And

709
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,790
don't attack if this was the
President even said self

710
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:03,510
censoring. Yes.

711
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,840
They've done a movie about a
civil rights figure. And a bunch

712
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,730
of races said we're going to do
something to your company for

713
00:42:08,730 --> 00:42:10,410
you unless you pull this movie
and I pulled the movie would

714
00:42:10,410 --> 00:42:12,870
have been cleared up in a
disgraceful thing to do. And so

715
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:15,270
I think this is somewhat
similar. I do have some sympathy

716
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:21,150
for Sony they're out there all
alone. Spending apparently $9 to

717
00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:21,750
target them

718
00:42:24,210 --> 00:42:27,600
back it up how many millions a
billion dollars you got to hear

719
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,400
this this is funny hold on the
action

720
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,310
problem. The companies have to
stick together the government

721
00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:33,450
has to say an attack on

722
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,660
was it back further back or the
a sorry,

723
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:39,720
they pulled the movie would have
been clear would have been a

724
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,240
disgraceful thing to do. And so
I think this is somewhat

725
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,420
similar. I do have some sympathy
for Sony they're out there all

726
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:49,050
alone against a country with
spending apparently hundreds of

727
00:42:49,050 --> 00:42:53,670
million dollars to target them.
Apparently,

728
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:58,140
they spend the current North
Korea which is broke by the way

729
00:42:58,890 --> 00:43:02,040
they're spending hundreds of
millions of dollars to coins

730
00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:05,700
Bitcoins. John Bitcoin, it's got
to be Bitcoin. He should have

731
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:08,160
thrown that in there spending
hundreds of millions of dollars

732
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,970
in Bitcoin.

733
00:43:09,090 --> 00:43:12,420
Yeah, I heard Yeah. Yeah, I want
to talk a little bit about the

734
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:13,530
self censoring thing.

735
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,500
To replay the President's
comment real quick. I have that

736
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,590
here. But itself. So I had the
self censorship

737
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,080
thing here. One of the things in
the new year that I hope

738
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,490
Congress is prepared to work
with us on is strong cyber

739
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,810
security laws that allow for
information sharing, across

740
00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:35,820
private sector platforms, as
well as the public sector, that

741
00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:40,410
we are incorporating best
practices, and preventing these

742
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:47,100
attacks from happening in the
first place. But even as we get

743
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:49,830
better, you know, the hackers
are gonna get better to some of

744
00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:51,780
them are going to be state
actors. Some of them are going

745
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:52,920
to be non state actors.

746
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,410
Some of them will be from
Microsoft.

747
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,130
All of them are going to be
sophisticated, and many of them

748
00:43:59,130 --> 00:44:08,220
can do some No. We cannot have a
society in which some dictator

749
00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:12,930
some place can start imposing
censorship here in the United

750
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:21,300
States. Because if somebody is
able to intimidate folks out of

751
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:26,070
releasing a satirical movie,
imagine what they start doing

752
00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:30,660
when they see a documentary that
they don't like or news reports

753
00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:42,000
that they don't like. Or even
worse, imagine if producers and

754
00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:47,220
get to editors and others start
engaging in self censorship

755
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,060
took a long time. All right, so
let's talk about that was

756
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:55,920
actually my clip that you didn't
play. Self censorship, but let's

757
00:44:55,950 --> 00:44:58,560
think about this. First of all,
let's Does anyone remember the

758
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,790
movie The 1976 film, the
Prophet, the messenger has had

759
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:06,450
different titles, the Prophet,
the messenger, or Mohammed, that

760
00:45:06,450 --> 00:45:09,660
movie they were, it was the sin.
It was just it was. We all said

761
00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:14,940
it. That movie was brought out
amidst a bunch of thought laws

762
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:18,090
that said, you can't bring this
movie out because you cannot

763
00:45:18,090 --> 00:45:23,400
depict Mohammed. And they they
counted them theaters to drop,

764
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,720
the movie was never released.
And it was a big controversy at

765
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:32,130
the time was a big deal. And the
and So ever since then, the self

766
00:45:32,130 --> 00:45:34,320
censorship took place. And
they've never done a movie

767
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,340
anything like this again, and
that was in 1976. And if we

768
00:45:38,340 --> 00:45:41,370
think about more recently, when
somebody didn't self censor like

769
00:45:41,370 --> 00:45:46,500
Juan Williams, who got fired
from PBS for saying that he'd be

770
00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:49,950
he would always thinks twice
when he sees a bunch of Muslims

771
00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:53,910
coming on an airplane. And they
fired him. Vivian. Schiller's

772
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:58,140
Yeah, crowd fired him for just
horrible yes thing. Just

773
00:45:58,140 --> 00:46:02,010
suggesting that he has feelings
about this. And self censorship.

774
00:46:02,010 --> 00:46:05,070
I brought this up, I had a
meeting with the next New York

775
00:46:05,070 --> 00:46:08,520
Times editor was working on a
book. And we're talking about

776
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:12,690
the early days of tech reporting
and how things have changed in

777
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,690
many the opinions expressed are
the ones that we talked about in

778
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:18,540
this show. But one of the things
I did say, I brought up to him,

779
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:22,080
I said, Well, you know, if
you're a writer, you do a lot of

780
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,560
self censoring. This is what you
do. If you're working for Time

781
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,250
Warner, you're not thinking of
doing an expose a on the creepy

782
00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:33,450
when I was just updated back
when I was working at MTV when I

783
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,230
got into MTV, but before I was
even on the air, I did an

784
00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:41,310
interview with TV Guide. And
there were, which was big back

785
00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:44,430
in the day, it mattered. And the
question was, yeah, what do you

786
00:46:44,430 --> 00:46:46,740
think of Madonna when you
interviewed her? So I didn't I

787
00:46:46,740 --> 00:46:49,890
didn't like her too much. They
lost their shit over that. Don't

788
00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:53,940
you ever, ever say anything like
that about Madonna? And then

789
00:46:53,940 --> 00:46:56,100
from then on, or like, guess
what, I didn't say anything bad

790
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:56,760
about Madonna?

791
00:46:57,570 --> 00:47:01,230
Of course not know why this is
the way the media works. Yeah.

792
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:03,510
But meanwhile, I thought was
interesting. There was a

793
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,520
disparity in belief systems,
because I know a number of New

794
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,830
York Times reporters, and I've
discussed this in fact, they

795
00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:15,090
discussed it with one of them
after I had this meeting. And I

796
00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:18,990
said, you self censor? Just
hell. Yeah, of course. I'm

797
00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:22,380
talking about this is an editor
of the New York Times. And I say

798
00:47:22,380 --> 00:47:25,920
I tell him this about the self
censoring. Well, I hope to god

799
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,520
no writers do that on my watch.
And then he says, I don't anyone

800
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,140
at the New York Times practices
such a thing. Wow. Well, dead

801
00:47:37,170 --> 00:47:40,890
serious to the editors, even
though they'll do what they did

802
00:47:40,890 --> 00:47:44,580
to you, which is come up to you
and say, You better not do that.

803
00:47:45,180 --> 00:47:47,250
They are in a dream world. In

804
00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:50,250
fact, it's always said as they
up at the office, they the

805
00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:55,320
suits, those people don't suits
the suits. Yeah. I have a John.

806
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,210
Barro, Josh, Barro, New York
Times reporter. And I believe

807
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:02,700
that these New York Times
reporters are so freaked out

808
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:06,510
about this. So the censorship
issue probably this is why

809
00:48:06,540 --> 00:48:08,340
they're coming. They keep
saying, Well, we have to get

810
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:10,770
this movie out. We have to get
this movie out because they feel

811
00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:13,410
that maybe it's their chance.
Now some you know what I mean?

812
00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:15,480
John's there's something weird
about everyone saying we gotta

813
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,090
get the movie out. They should
put the movie out, man because

814
00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:20,790
we can't have them censoring us
freedom of speech.

815
00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:23,490
I think he's overcompensating.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're

816
00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:25,500
censoring themselves constantly.

817
00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:28,680
Are you ready for what Josh
Barrow who? What does he write

818
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:30,690
his New York Times? Right Josh
barrel? Let me take a look. Who

819
00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:35,580
is this Gosh, arrow. This is
Josh. look him up. Ba RR. Oh, I

820
00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:40,560
think it is. Josh Barrow opinion
journalist.

821
00:48:40,860 --> 00:48:44,190
He's a columnist, says he's a
neoliberal

822
00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:46,770
and Republican, whatever,
domestic

823
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,810
liberal, a neoliberal Republican
person in the world. I'm looking

824
00:48:51,810 --> 00:48:56,040
at Wikipedia. He's currently a
neoliberal is a domestic course

825
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,610
right. Mises

826
00:48:56,610 --> 00:48:58,890
calls themselves a neoliberal is
considered one of the worst

827
00:48:58,980 --> 00:49:01,920
people, you get some worse, long
story. I'm not gonna go into it.

828
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,150
But it's like, it's something
not to be proud of. In other

829
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:08,310
words, he's a Clinton
Republican. Here we go.

830
00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:11,880
Listen to what his idea is how
we should I mean, of all the

831
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,860
things you could do, John, how
can you force Sony's hand to

832
00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:20,430
releasing this movie online?
What would you in your wildest

833
00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:23,310
dreams? What would What a way to
do this be?

834
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,100
The deal the movie and release
it?

835
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:29,460
I think the hack teaches us an
important lesson, which is the

836
00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:33,210
risk that corporate America is a
soft underbelly for attacks from

837
00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:35,790
outside. And I think you know,
you had the president basically

838
00:49:35,790 --> 00:49:39,120
calling out Sony for being
cowardly, saying as it was a

839
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,270
mistake to pull the film he
wishes they'd called him before

840
00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:45,750
doing that. But the thing is,
it's not Sony's job to project

841
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:48,870
American strength to the North
Koreans and it's not Sony's job

842
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:51,840
to discourage further attacks
that are likely to come on

843
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,990
companies other than Sony, by
showing that attacks won't be

844
00:49:54,990 --> 00:49:58,350
successful. That is the job of
the government. But one

845
00:49:58,380 --> 00:50:01,170
unconventional thing I actually
think The government should do

846
00:50:01,170 --> 00:50:05,160
is I think they should seize the
interview by eminent domain and

847
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,790
release it. It's a non
traditional use of eminent

848
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:11,610
domain, but you can use eminent
domain on intangible property,

849
00:50:11,610 --> 00:50:14,130
it would be for a bonafide
public use, which is to

850
00:50:14,130 --> 00:50:17,310
demonstrate that if you
perpetuate an attack for the

851
00:50:17,310 --> 00:50:20,610
purpose of preventing a release
of a movie, you will fail. It's

852
00:50:20,610 --> 00:50:23,130
clear, it seems to me that
probably the last thing Kim Jong

853
00:50:23,130 --> 00:50:25,260
on wants is for people to see
this movie. So the government

854
00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:27,750
can take it and air it on PBS
and put it on government

855
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:31,110
websites, or show it in post
office and let a maniac but

856
00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:35,100
basically, I think it is showed
him some sort of response from

857
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,070
the government that shows that
this attack will not achieve its

858
00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:41,130
objectives. We can't rely on
Sony to do that. And then we

859
00:50:41,130 --> 00:50:44,370
have to think also more broadly,
if other attacks like this

860
00:50:44,370 --> 00:50:47,640
happen, probably for a less
frivolous purpose than this,

861
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:51,960
what are we doing to ensure that
there is a response that that

862
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,410
responds to these proportionally
and discourages those attacks?

863
00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:58,470
Because we can't rely on the
companies themselves to

864
00:50:58,470 --> 00:51:01,140
undertake responses when they
are attacked in a way that is

865
00:51:01,140 --> 00:51:01,680
important to

866
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,590
eminent domain? John, that's the
way to go eminent domain

867
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:08,730
exactly what I said. Yeah, steal
the movie and then release it,

868
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,490
which would be was that is
eminent

869
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:18,960
I do want to just briefly the
FBI. Did you read their their

870
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,250
full on statement about

871
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,760
not read the full on statement?
I know you would. Yeah. And it's

872
00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:28,440
it's very, very disturbing to
and it's really just one pager.

873
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:32,460
I just like to go through this
for a second. Today the FBI

874
00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:35,160
would like to provide an update
on the status of our

875
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,210
investigation to the
cyberattack. In late November by

876
00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:41,220
the group called himself
guardians of peace. The FBI has

877
00:51:41,220 --> 00:51:44,670
determined that the intrusion
into Sony SPE has their what

878
00:51:44,670 --> 00:51:47,580
they're calling it. Sony
Pictures Entertainment Network

879
00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:49,860
consisted of deployment of
destructive malware and the

880
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:52,890
theft of proprietary information
as well as employees personally

881
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:55,530
identifiable information etc,
etc. After discovering the

882
00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:58,590
intrusion SPE requested the FBI
as assistance although they say

883
00:51:58,590 --> 00:52:01,260
it was CIA. Since then FBI has
been working closely with the

884
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:03,150
company throughout the
investigation. Sony has been a

885
00:52:03,150 --> 00:52:06,030
great partner in the
investigation. Hello, Pay

886
00:52:06,030 --> 00:52:08,610
Attention everybody and
continues to work closely with

887
00:52:08,610 --> 00:52:11,790
the FBI. Sony reported the
incident within hours which is

888
00:52:11,790 --> 00:52:14,850
what the FBI hoped all companies
will do when facing a cyber

889
00:52:14,850 --> 00:52:18,420
attack. Sony's quick reporting
facilitated the investigators

890
00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:22,320
ability to do their jobs and
ultimately, to identify the

891
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,250
source of these attacks. So
message here, and from Fortune

892
00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:29,640
500 companies I'm hearing dudes
named Ben everywhere, saying the

893
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:35,040
executives are all in on sharing
with the FBI, anything and

894
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,160
everything. As a result, our
investigation and in close

895
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,770
collaboration with other US
government departments and

896
00:52:40,770 --> 00:52:44,370
agencies were unnamed. The FBI
now has enough information to

897
00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:48,390
conclude that the North Korean
government is responsible for

898
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:52,590
these actions. While the need to
protect sensitive sources and

899
00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:55,500
methods precludes us from
sharing all of this information.

900
00:52:55,530 --> 00:53:00,090
Our conclusion is based in part
the need to put it what don't

901
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,270
What are you asking questions
for citizen? While the need to

902
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:05,880
protect sensitive sources and
methods precludes us from

903
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,610
sharing all of this information.
Our conclusion is based in part

904
00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:12,090
on the following three points
one technical analysis of the

905
00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:16,440
data deletion malware using this
attack revealed links to other

906
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,220
malware the FBI knows North
Korean actors previously

907
00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:23,820
developed. For example, there
were similarities and specific

908
00:53:23,820 --> 00:53:26,730
lines of code encryption
algorithms, data deletion

909
00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:30,450
methods and compromised
networks, which you can buy. You

910
00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:33,900
can buy this alright, that's so
that's not real. That's shady.

911
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,530
stuff. You can just buy cash
Yeah. To order a line of script

912
00:53:37,530 --> 00:53:38,040
kiddies stuff.

913
00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:41,580
The FBI also observed
significant overlap between the

914
00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:44,760
infrastructure used in this
attack and other malicious cyber

915
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,930
activity the US government has
previously linked directly to

916
00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:53,040
North Korea, the internet for
Yeah, for example, the FBI

917
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,270
discovered that several Internet
Protocol IP addresses associated

918
00:53:57,270 --> 00:54:00,300
with known North Korean
infrastructure communicated with

919
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:03,180
IP addresses that were hard
coded into the data deletion

920
00:54:03,180 --> 00:54:08,580
malware and used in this attack.
All completely debunk Kabul you

921
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:12,600
can show how you could use this
this is no proof. Third,

922
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,250
separately. The tools used in
the SPE attack have similarities

923
00:54:17,250 --> 00:54:20,760
to a cyber attack in March of
last year against South Korean

924
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,450
banks and media outlets, which
was carried out by North Korea,

925
00:54:24,750 --> 00:54:28,680
which I think was not not
conclusively determined, was

926
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,840
bullcrap. Just the media saying
it was

927
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:34,080
only kidding with these guys,
North Korea is cut off from the

928
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,500
internet. They don't have any
the skills. It just doesn't make

929
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:38,640
any sense at all.

930
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,560
I want to point out that in the
past 12 years Sony has been

931
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,060
hacked a total of 56 times let
us not forget the 2011

932
00:54:48,330 --> 00:54:52,620
PlayStation Network hack where
they literally had users

933
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:55,950
passwords and names and
usernames in an Excel

934
00:54:55,950 --> 00:55:01,920
spreadsheet. This is this is not
it. Sony has been warned over

935
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,880
and over again just by being the
target of attacks. The Sony

936
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,830
definitely has culpability in
what happened here. This

937
00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:19,620
seriously if you look at the
list 56 times reasonably serious

938
00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:22,260
intrusions into their network

939
00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:31,590
regarding the me see what I have
you have two more. Oh, yeah. I

940
00:55:31,590 --> 00:55:35,490
have the the CNN piece about
North Korea's response. I of

941
00:55:35,490 --> 00:55:38,940
course I don't speak the
language. So we can only go by

942
00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:41,250
what they say is the correct
translation. It doesn't really

943
00:55:41,250 --> 00:55:45,480
matter. This is the message that
is being propagated about North

944
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,820
Korea's response in this CNN
package, which I've edited down

945
00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:51,120
actually.

946
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,260
Just hours after President
Obama. I'm sorry, that is

947
00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:59,550
actually a sound effect. They
sweeten this video to see the

948
00:55:59,550 --> 00:56:04,200
President he's walking down the
steps of Air Force One in Hawaii

949
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,050
where he's on vacation, but for
some reason they need to put

950
00:56:07,050 --> 00:56:10,500
this big jet landing sound in
even though you don't see a jet

951
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:12,210
landing it kind of mess with my
head.

952
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:17,550
Just hours after President Obama
plans in Hawaii for the

953
00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:20,880
Christmas holiday. What are you
gonna pay? We still told them

954
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,990
like the regime lashes out via
its state run television. With

955
00:56:24,990 --> 00:56:29,130
all of its usual bluster. The
regime slams the US government's

956
00:56:29,130 --> 00:56:33,300
investigation of the Sony hack
as childish, that North Korea is

957
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:37,590
being framed, saying it can
prove its innocence without

958
00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:40,200
using any torture methods like
the Americans

959
00:56:40,529 --> 00:56:43,619
say that I thought was genius
cute.

960
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:48,269
Those digs come in response to
President Obama that the

961
00:56:48,269 --> 00:56:52,409
evidence points to Pyongyang.
North Korea directly rebuked the

962
00:56:52,409 --> 00:56:56,699
President saying it is the one
who should respond after insults

963
00:56:56,699 --> 00:57:00,959
to its supreme leader. But as it
will not conduct terror against

964
00:57:00,959 --> 00:57:02,069
innocent movie goers.

965
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:04,980
And notice that this is not part
of what the newscaster said. So

966
00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:06,720
I don't know where it's coming
from rather

967
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,290
target the originators of the
insults the movie and the

968
00:57:10,290 --> 00:57:13,920
Hackett Sony also gotten North
Korea's bank roller and ally

969
00:57:13,950 --> 00:57:17,790
China to respond in China's
state run Global Times and

970
00:57:17,790 --> 00:57:21,600
editorial calls and movies
vicious mocking of Kim senseless

971
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,870
cultural arrogance, and that
China was once a punching bag

972
00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:27,930
for Hollywood. But now that the
Chinese market sits as a

973
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:32,340
goldmine for us movies, the
teasing shifts to impoverished

974
00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:35,400
North Korea, the North Koreans
and their fiery rebuttal to

975
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,460
President Obama by curiously
suggesting that the two

976
00:57:38,490 --> 00:57:41,910
countries work together in a
mutual investigation to find the

977
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:42,720
real culprits.

978
00:57:42,810 --> 00:57:46,200
I love this as the narrative was
very curious. I mean, what are

979
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,260
they crazy? Are they going to
suggest we work together with

980
00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:51,180
them to prove their innocence?
What is

981
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:58,710
the most obvious thing about
this is typically a cyber

982
00:57:58,710 --> 00:58:02,310
terrorist, if it's going to be
all of a sudden become what

983
00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:06,300
they've got the North Koreans
dubbed as like the ultimate. I

984
00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:09,390
mean, these guys are the biggest
cyber terrorists ever. They're

985
00:58:09,390 --> 00:58:13,020
so talented, would usually take
credit for something like this.

986
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:16,230
At rare that ever does,
especially when we've projected

987
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:19,800
them as this extreme testicle
group together. I bet we did

988
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,980
that. They know that if they
took credit for it, they'd be

989
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:25,560
busted eventually because they
didn't do it.

990
00:58:25,830 --> 00:58:31,140
There's one other anomaly that
kind of flew under the radar.

991
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,410
Just before this all really
exploded and came to light

992
00:58:34,410 --> 00:58:40,380
President Park of South Korea
had this was all over the news

993
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:42,600
for about 10 hours and in

994
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,110
a message ahead of the ASEAN
Korea Commemorative Summit,

995
00:58:46,110 --> 00:58:49,140
President Buck says the 10 ASEAN
member countries having

996
00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:53,730
diplomatic relations with both
South and North Korea can be of

997
00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:58,410
great help as the old prepares
for a peaceful unification of

998
00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:01,950
the peninsula. She added a
unified Korea would contribute

999
00:59:01,950 --> 00:59:05,790
to peace across East Asia as
well now celebrating just how

1000
00:59:05,790 --> 00:59:09,240
much Korea and ASEAN have
developed. Tyson's first opening

1001
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,120
dialogue. 25 years ago,
President Bush said the two

1002
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,450
sides should forge ahead with
the name of enhancing the

1003
00:59:15,450 --> 00:59:18,960
quality of life for their
respective citizens. The two day

1004
00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:22,860
San Korea summit will begin in
the southern port city of Pusan.

1005
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:25,440
This is not good, we can't have
any talks.

1006
00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:29,310
Numbers, there's numbers we're
losing out here if these guys

1007
00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:30,150
ever unite

1008
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:35,400
and I know from dawn that he he
has had very good conversations

1009
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,720
with Park and he has always said
he hopes she has the courage to

1010
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:42,420
push ahead. But I don't think we
ever talked about this but it

1011
00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:44,460
just hit me he said yeah, I
really hope she has the courage

1012
00:59:44,460 --> 00:59:47,340
to push ahead and go for
unification but he said he said

1013
00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:50,520
it's gonna be very difficult. So
here's this big grandiose

1014
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,490
statement about oh, you know, we
could look at some unification

1015
00:59:55,470 --> 00:59:57,780
get it out of this. This is

1016
00:59:57,780 --> 01:00:03,030
not gonna work. This is If this
cannot happen it's gonna lose

1017
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:07,380
their ads. This is bad no no, we
can't have this. And finally,

1018
01:00:07,650 --> 01:00:10,500
something from the State
Department I like this this is a

1019
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:14,100
two parter. Of course we don't
have is not really the mat and

1020
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,750
Marie show because it's Jen

1021
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:21,810
I'm watching Jen with it in mind
that she's really good Yeah, I

1022
01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:25,290
think you're right she's really
good cold blooded

1023
01:00:25,350 --> 01:00:27,720
you have to be you gotta you
gotta have ICL

1024
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,140
stuff she's does have generic
gets flustered and she knows

1025
01:00:31,140 --> 01:00:34,650
when to cut it off. And they
have to Artie keeps playing her

1026
01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:38,940
a lot because we gotta get one
of the RT women in them in the

1027
01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:42,780
questions and they always show
her camera and the question that

1028
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:45,540
she's asking some question that
Jen just puts up with very

1029
01:00:45,540 --> 01:00:45,960
annoying

1030
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,560
well this is a two parter the
set now this is Matt with a very

1031
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:55,770
very good setup. And it's based
upon emails which have there's a

1032
01:00:55,770 --> 01:00:58,410
lot of emails now who know you
don't know any authenticity of

1033
01:00:58,410 --> 01:01:01,320
these emails but the emails
apparently say that there was

1034
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,270
the deputy sheriff's deputy
Deputy Secretary of State was in

1035
01:01:06,270 --> 01:01:11,160
your being consulted on the
movie and he was in fact I have

1036
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:16,680
I think I have some of the at
least what they're saying is a

1037
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,070
copy of the email but a couple
of people are and this makes

1038
01:01:20,070 --> 01:01:22,590
total sense of being consulted
and said oh you know I spoke to

1039
01:01:22,590 --> 01:01:25,110
someone higher up they're all in
this is good. You should

1040
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:27,750
definitely go ahead with the
with blowing his head up but

1041
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,200
maybe cut the actual blowing up
seeing out but let's look of

1042
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,540
terror as you know, he's going
to blow up all it's very

1043
01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:36,930
detailed in in their
conversation about this this

1044
01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:37,470
movie,

1045
01:01:37,620 --> 01:01:39,960
by the way, if they're that
detail, what gave you the

1046
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,040
interrupt? What causes had the
blowout blow up?

1047
01:01:44,130 --> 01:01:49,560
Oh, he's in a helicopter and I
think is some

1048
01:01:49,590 --> 01:01:52,380
rockety swallow a hand grenade.
That's the kind of thing

1049
01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:54,480
usually, you know, get some
stuffed in his mouth and

1050
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,580
everyone jumped out and he blew
up the helicopter, the

1051
01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:59,970
helicopter with him. You know,
very common thing would happen a

1052
01:01:59,970 --> 01:02:01,290
lot. Exactly.

1053
01:02:01,350 --> 01:02:04,740
Not exactly sure. Doesn't really
matter.

1054
01:02:05,070 --> 01:02:09,240
This morning. Sights, these
emails that were hacked from

1055
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,650
some Sony executives emails
saying that this

1056
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,790
stinks. Matt needs an education
to this. It's no longer

1057
01:02:17,790 --> 01:02:20,790
acceptable as a professional
journalist to say these emails

1058
01:02:20,790 --> 01:02:25,740
were hacked. Let's get some
terminology down people

1059
01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:29,580
Department officials signed off
on or gave the okay to

1060
01:02:29,940 --> 01:02:34,710
roll on it second. Now, I didn't
have this guy's gonna mention

1061
01:02:34,710 --> 01:02:38,130
this. Brooks, though, who just
went on and on about how this

1062
01:02:38,190 --> 01:02:42,510
was so terrible. am He and I
guess he I think he's on another

1063
01:02:42,510 --> 01:02:47,880
clipboards further on down the
line. He makes a big deal. And I

1064
01:02:48,090 --> 01:02:51,240
think there's a piece of this in
that clip I played a big deal

1065
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,530
about the all these emails
saying that news media should be

1066
01:02:55,530 --> 01:03:00,270
responsible. This is a classic
to me and not reveal any of

1067
01:03:00,270 --> 01:03:03,750
these emails because they're
stolen property went on about

1068
01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:06,360
that whole thing. And now I
didn't realize at the time

1069
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,210
because I said what some who
cares? And then if it's a bunch

1070
01:03:09,210 --> 01:03:13,140
of State Department stuff that
got out. Yeah, I would say

1071
01:03:13,140 --> 01:03:16,560
that's the reason for taking
that approach. Oh, what's

1072
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,600
irresponsible of the news media.

1073
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,950
And guess what? You haven't seen
this in the news anywhere? Have

1074
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:23,340
you?

1075
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:27,090
No, that's not been reported.
This is only on this. This is

1076
01:03:27,090 --> 01:03:28,320
borderline Clip of the Day.

1077
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:32,370
Now the Clip of the Day is what
is where Matt hammers at home.

1078
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,290
This is just lovely setup.
Getting gentles screwed up movie

1079
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:41,070
that's caused such a kerfuffle,
when did the State Department

1080
01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:44,730
get into the business of telling
movie studios what they can and

1081
01:03:44,730 --> 01:03:45,120
kind of

1082
01:03:46,350 --> 01:03:51,120
red herring. What do you mean,
we created the movie business?

1083
01:03:51,150 --> 01:03:55,230
We are not. So Department
officials just so all of you

1084
01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:59,040
know routinely meet and consult
informally with a wide range of

1085
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,030
private groups, certainly
including executives from movie

1086
01:04:03,030 --> 01:04:06,360
studios and a range of private
sector companies and individuals

1087
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,050
secret seeking information about
US foreign policy and US views

1088
01:04:10,050 --> 01:04:13,680
on developments around the
world. Our message in public and

1089
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,790
private is the same. We respect
artists and entertainers rights

1090
01:04:17,820 --> 01:04:21,870
to a right to produce content of
their choosing. We have no

1091
01:04:21,870 --> 01:04:24,870
involvement in such decisions.
We're not in the business of

1092
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:30,480
signing off on content of
movies, or things along those

1093
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,300
lines. I know there were a range
of different reports out there.

1094
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:35,160
So let me just see if I can
address some of them. And then

1095
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,300
we'll get to your next question.
If

1096
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:38,640
she goes She's so good. She's
segwaying right into her little

1097
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,170
tabbed information sheets.

1098
01:04:40,589 --> 01:04:43,859
Well, I'm not obviously going to
speak to the specifics of the

1099
01:04:43,889 --> 01:04:47,789
allegedly leaked emails. I can
confirm for you that Assistant

1100
01:04:47,789 --> 01:04:50,939
Secretary Russell did have a
conversation while executives

1101
01:04:50,969 --> 01:04:54,749
hear that. Yeah, what did you
hear?

1102
01:04:55,140 --> 01:04:56,790
Allegedly leaked.

1103
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,220
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I didn't
know this is the she's reading

1104
01:04:59,220 --> 01:05:01,140
this off of her tab. Paper.
That's why

1105
01:05:01,290 --> 01:05:06,540
the word allegedly when it was
there leaked web, are they not

1106
01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:08,430
really leaked and they're all
crap.

1107
01:05:08,610 --> 01:05:11,640
This is different, John, this is
different. This. I don't think

1108
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,790
this was part of the hack. But I
think these were leaked. Because

1109
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:18,330
see, she is responding from a
tabbed piece of paper. And the

1110
01:05:18,330 --> 01:05:22,920
paper it says allegedly leaked.
So she's just reading it and it

1111
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,710
slips by where no one alleged
that they were leaked, they were

1112
01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:29,550
hacked at best the way Matt
describes it does not leaking,

1113
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:32,730
leaking something different.
They know that these were the

1114
01:05:32,730 --> 01:05:35,670
last time that mean that to your
point is valid. These were

1115
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:37,920
leaks. And she's responding to
that even though no one is

1116
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,470
accusing anyone of them being
leaked. There, right? There were

1117
01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:41,460
hacked.

1118
01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:47,130
Movies, or things along those
lines. I know there were a range

1119
01:05:47,130 --> 01:05:49,050
of different reports out there.
So let me just see if I can

1120
01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:51,090
address some of them. And then
we'll get to your next question

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01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,780
TAB TAB. Well, I'm not obviously
going to speak to the specifics

1122
01:05:54,780 --> 01:05:58,530
of the allegedly leaked emails,
I can confirm for you that

1123
01:05:58,620 --> 01:06:01,500
Assistant Secretary Russell did
have a conversation with Sony

1124
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:04,800
executives, as he does routinely
with a wide range of private

1125
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,550
groups and individuals to
discuss foreign policy in Asia.

1126
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:15,210
Bob King, Contrary to reports,
did not view the movie and did

1127
01:06:15,210 --> 01:06:20,790
not have any contact directly
with Sony. As we have set, as

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01:06:20,820 --> 01:06:24,750
we've noted before entertainers
are free to make movies of their

1129
01:06:24,750 --> 01:06:27,510
choosing, and we're not involved
in that. So

1130
01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:32,430
systems are Gary Russell, in his
conversations with the Sony

1131
01:06:32,430 --> 01:06:35,940
executives, if they got if those
executives got the impression

1132
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:42,450
that he was saying, it's okay to
do this. They were missing, they

1133
01:06:42,450 --> 01:06:43,860
weren't getting the wrong
impression?

1134
01:06:44,070 --> 01:06:47,700
Well, I think I don't think any
executive would want the State

1135
01:06:47,700 --> 01:06:50,130
Department or the United States
government to be in the business

1136
01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:54,330
of signing off on the content of
their, their movies or

1137
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,650
television shows of or whatever
it may be. But, of course,

1138
01:06:58,650 --> 01:07:01,530
there's a lot of information
that we don't know about North

1139
01:07:01,530 --> 01:07:04,140
Korea, and the fact that they
have one of the worst human

1140
01:07:04,140 --> 01:07:07,650
rights records out there that
they have consistently put out

1141
01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:10,230
threats against the United
States. And certainly we share

1142
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:13,470
information that is publicly
available with executives.

1143
01:07:14,490 --> 01:07:18,690
Okay, that's the setup. Then she
she really goes all for it.

1144
01:07:18,690 --> 01:07:22,170
Because here comes man, he's,
he's kind of hammered home.

1145
01:07:22,620 --> 01:07:26,460
I mean, does the State
Department think that? Something

1146
01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:30,720
like that, whether it is an
artistic endeavor, or not, is

1147
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,350
something that is helpful, or is
something that is appropriate

1148
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:38,400
for any company to do? And the
reason that I asked this is not

1149
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,610
to suggest that you're involved
in free speech. But remember the

1150
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,920
video of this poorly produced
film involving the Prophet

1151
01:07:47,490 --> 01:07:50,460
Muhammad, I believe, which was
blamed for

1152
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:53,220
at this point, I'm like, Yeah,
mad

1153
01:07:53,279 --> 01:07:57,119
go he protests in in Cairo.

1154
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,230
And then Benghazi, which he
doesn't say we,

1155
01:08:01,290 --> 01:08:04,470
you know, the State Department
came out and wanted YouTube to

1156
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:07,080
take it down. Right, take it
down on the State Department

1157
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,900
said that it did not represent
the values the United States and

1158
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:14,970
there is a history of movie
criticism or film criticism from

1159
01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:18,180
this building. And I'm just
wondering if this is this is at

1160
01:08:18,180 --> 01:08:20,490
all playing into this current
situation.

1161
01:08:20,910 --> 01:08:23,580
I would not put them in the same
category, which I'm sure does

1162
01:08:23,580 --> 01:08:24,600
not surprise you.

1163
01:08:25,470 --> 01:08:28,380
We smoke the same category. But
it's a different kind of

1164
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:29,190
entertain, don't

1165
01:08:29,190 --> 01:08:32,850
have it's a fiction movie. It's
not a documentary about our

1166
01:08:32,850 --> 01:08:36,300
relationship with the United
States with North Korea. It's

1167
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:39,750
not something we backed,
supported, or necessarily have

1168
01:08:39,750 --> 01:08:40,830
an opinion on like

1169
01:08:40,829 --> 01:08:43,289
the Mohammed movie, which I
guess you did back in support. I

1170
01:08:43,289 --> 01:08:44,789
don't know. Yeah, you haven't
seen

1171
01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:47,730
it? I have not seen the movie.
No, I don't think it's out yet.

1172
01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:52,560
Well, apparently it is. All
right. Well, it's a good move. I

1173
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,950
just want to remind everybody
that this is absolute bunk, and

1174
01:08:55,950 --> 01:08:59,160
bull crap, as we learned from
Evergreen clip, Martin Kaplan

1175
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:05,550
from the Lear foundation about
Hollywood, and how they

1176
01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:07,890
influence the government
influences Hollywood.

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01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:14,100
So in the course of our work,
this is in the last two years 11

1178
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:21,300
to 13 335 storylines that we
worked on, have been aired.

1179
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:27,090
We've worked with 35 networks in
the past four years. 91

1180
01:09:27,090 --> 01:09:28,830
different television shows.

1181
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:31,259
And countless movies.

1182
01:09:34,380 --> 01:09:36,990
Yeah, well, it never ends.

1183
01:09:37,529 --> 01:09:42,599
Anyway, this morning. Obama's
backing away from it now. He's,

1184
01:09:43,769 --> 01:09:47,099
yeah, of course is he's backing
away. Here he is with Candy

1185
01:09:47,099 --> 01:09:51,209
Crowley, one of her. This was
must be her swan song. I presume

1186
01:09:51,209 --> 01:09:53,039
that she's leaving the network.

1187
01:09:53,340 --> 01:09:57,360
I wonder if maybe it was fear of
lawsuit, as opposed to fear of

1188
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,630
North Korea, which there's a
threat right there. The people

1189
01:10:00,630 --> 01:10:02,970
are looking at their theater
thinking, you know, anything

1190
01:10:02,970 --> 01:10:06,060
happens here. I'm I'm done. It's
over. You know, that's

1191
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:10,680
possible. But look, look, look,
as I said, the Boston Marathon

1192
01:10:11,370 --> 01:10:16,470
suffered an actual grievous
attack that killed and maimed a

1193
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:21,540
number of people. And that next
year, we had a successful Boston

1194
01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:25,650
marathon's we've ever had. You
know, sometimes this is a matter

1195
01:10:25,650 --> 01:10:29,670
of setting a tone. And being
very clear that we're not going

1196
01:10:29,670 --> 01:10:35,700
to be intimidated by some cyber
hackers, cyber hackers. Oh,

1197
01:10:35,700 --> 01:10:40,410
expect all of us to remember
that and operate on that basis

1198
01:10:40,410 --> 01:10:41,040
going forward.

1199
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,920
Do you think this was an act of
war by North Korea?

1200
01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:47,430
No, I don't think it was an act
of war. I think it was active

1201
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:51,690
cyber vandalism. That was
costly, very expensive. Not

1202
01:10:51,690 --> 01:10:52,680
taking serious

1203
01:10:53,220 --> 01:10:57,900
cyber vandalism. Okay. Now it's
gone from North Korea to cyber

1204
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:03,930
hackers to an act of war to
cyber vandalism. Oh, righty then

1205
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,480
there's a need for rescue
mission. When the world is

1206
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,810
threatened. The world needs
help. calls on America.

1207
01:11:17,850 --> 01:11:21,420
I want to bring two more clips
in from Obama's speech about all

1208
01:11:21,420 --> 01:11:25,140
this that have nothing to do
with the North Korean thing. But

1209
01:11:25,470 --> 01:11:28,770
it has everything to do with
Obama. He plays basketball.

1210
01:11:28,860 --> 01:11:35,550
Yeah. And he had golf. Yes. And
he can't he throws a baseball

1211
01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:38,220
like a girl. Yes. And I don't
think he knows anything about

1212
01:11:38,220 --> 01:11:41,430
football. No, probably not.
Because here is Obama talking

1213
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:44,370
just casually and then he goes
off script and starts rambling

1214
01:11:44,370 --> 01:11:47,850
and as he does about and it's
this confuses me because of the

1215
01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:51,210
second clip is that this is when
I want Obama on football one.

1216
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,780
And then then the confusing part
shows up in Obama on football

1217
01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:57,930
two, but play Obama on football
one and I want to comment

1218
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,130
stuff happens in the fourth
quarter. And I'm looking forward

1219
01:12:02,130 --> 01:12:07,350
to it. But going into the fourth
quarter, you usually get a

1220
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:12,960
timeout. Now looking forward to
a quiet timeout. Christmas with

1221
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,140
my family. So I want to wish
everybody a merry Christmas,

1222
01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:21,000
happy Hanukkah. Happy New Year
Kwanzaa. I hope that all of you

1223
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,170
get some time to spend with your
families as well, because one

1224
01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:28,650
thing that we share is that
we're wasting too much from

1225
01:12:28,650 --> 01:12:35,250
them. And now Josh has given me
the who's been naughty and who's

1226
01:12:35,250 --> 01:12:38,550
been nice list. And I'm gonna
use it.

1227
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,910
Do you forgot Solstice and
Kwanzaa?

1228
01:12:42,090 --> 01:12:45,000
I know I find found that and
Festivus. He left that out? You

1229
01:12:46,260 --> 01:12:50,430
know, what I think was
interesting is that, what is he

1230
01:12:50,430 --> 01:12:54,360
talking about? You don't get a
time out. When you go into the

1231
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,140
fourth quarter,

1232
01:12:55,230 --> 01:12:58,350
you get a timeout when you've
been in a bad boy and you get

1233
01:12:58,380 --> 01:12:58,530
your

1234
01:12:59,250 --> 01:13:01,470
eyes and there's a timeout with
a two minute warning but there's

1235
01:13:01,470 --> 01:13:05,490
no timeout so he doesn't know
anything. But then I was stunned

1236
01:13:05,850 --> 01:13:09,720
when he he was a quarterback for
the Baltimore Ravens. His name

1237
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:15,540
Joe Flacco. And I guess his
brother is in the movie if we

1238
01:13:15,540 --> 01:13:17,970
played Obama on football to

1239
01:13:18,090 --> 01:13:23,010
on a movie studio because of a
satirical movie starring Seth

1240
01:13:23,010 --> 01:13:25,770
Rogen and James clapper.

1241
01:13:27,780 --> 01:13:31,200
You are the only person I have
heard who figured out what was

1242
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:36,720
going on and why he mistook
Franco for Flacco? Yeah, you're

1243
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:37,470
the only guy

1244
01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:39,840
stick in Joe Flacco, the
quarterback for the Ravens

1245
01:13:39,870 --> 01:13:42,990
because the local team I mean it
Baltimore is local to Washington

1246
01:13:42,990 --> 01:13:46,650
DC. So it's like a local team.
And he probably heard of him.

1247
01:13:47,010 --> 01:13:50,370
And I still think he doesn't
know anything about football or

1248
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:51,330
even watches it

1249
01:13:51,389 --> 01:13:56,129
i Last I someone immediately
created a Twitter account at

1250
01:13:56,129 --> 01:14:01,109
James Flacco. Thanks President
Obama for the for the shout out.

1251
01:14:02,879 --> 01:14:05,699
But yes, you are I think you're
absolutely you're the only

1252
01:14:05,699 --> 01:14:08,519
person who's figured out why he
made that mistake.

1253
01:14:10,590 --> 01:14:13,200
was a football in the mind is
fourth quarter, you get your

1254
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,550
time out, you know, whatever.

1255
01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:17,850
Well, with that, John, I want to
thank you for your courage and

1256
01:14:17,850 --> 01:14:21,630
say in the morning to you John
C. Dvorak

1257
01:14:21,810 --> 01:14:25,140
in the morning. Do Adam see
curry in the morning all ships

1258
01:14:25,140 --> 01:14:27,780
at sea boots on the ground feet
in the air subs in the water?

1259
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:29,400
And all the games and nights out
there

1260
01:14:29,429 --> 01:14:32,159
in the morning to everyone in
the chat room know agenda

1261
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:37,199
stream.com. Good to see you all
there working with us. Let me

1262
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:39,359
see how many Yeah, let me see
how many people we have

1263
01:14:39,389 --> 01:14:44,549
listening to the stream right
now. Let me see. We have Oh 853

1264
01:14:44,579 --> 01:14:47,699
Not bad for a Sunday in the
morning to our artists. Cosmo.

1265
01:14:47,699 --> 01:14:51,269
Thank you very much for the
artwork for Episode Six, Seven

1266
01:14:51,269 --> 01:14:55,379
Niner. With Little Kim Jong Il
in the background there of Dan

1267
01:14:55,379 --> 01:14:58,619
rad that was a nice piece of
art. Very, very functional and

1268
01:14:58,619 --> 01:15:02,009
we always look forward to You
know what our artists will bring

1269
01:15:02,009 --> 01:15:05,699
us next to no agenda art
generator.com. This is where we

1270
01:15:05,699 --> 01:15:08,429
thank our producers, executive
producers and Associate

1271
01:15:08,429 --> 01:15:12,299
Executive producers for they are
the ones just like early like

1272
01:15:12,299 --> 01:15:16,439
Hollywood works. They're out
there really helping us with the

1273
01:15:16,469 --> 01:15:21,329
with the big tickets. And you
know, we don't have actresses

1274
01:15:21,329 --> 01:15:23,909
for anyone to bank or actors for
that matter. So we'd like to

1275
01:15:23,909 --> 01:15:26,459
give you credits at the front of
the show for supporting us

1276
01:15:26,639 --> 01:15:27,359
financially.

1277
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,640
Yes, and I want to thank all of
you right now. Yeah, I'm looking

1278
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,480
to see if Oscar Nadal actually
sent us anything in. You mean,

1279
01:15:36,510 --> 01:15:38,010
except I have an email from him.

1280
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,410
I don't have an email either. He
promised that this was going to

1281
01:15:40,410 --> 01:15:43,470
happen. Is this. Is this a
duplicate? Or?

1282
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:46,110
Well, this was I don't know what
this one is because his other

1283
01:15:46,110 --> 01:15:52,380
one owned a doubt which comes in
is the 6969 came in, and then

1284
01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:56,220
there's this one that's kind of
pending. We'll find out in the

1285
01:15:56,220 --> 01:16:00,690
weeks ahead. Also, Barry Hannah,
let's start with RS Bagwell in

1286
01:16:00,690 --> 01:16:06,570
Louisville, Kentucky. And he
sent the 123 4.56 My absolute

1287
01:16:06,570 --> 01:16:07,800
favorite donation.

1288
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:11,250
This is a great, this is a good
day. This is nice. Yeah. Yeah,

1289
01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:11,400
we

1290
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,310
had a good good lot of people
step up. And let me just read

1291
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:16,830
his very short note. And this is
something people should this is

1292
01:16:16,830 --> 01:16:20,490
an interesting idea. And I may
have mentioned it last year, but

1293
01:16:20,490 --> 01:16:22,950
I don't remember it. But now
he's essentially he's

1294
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:26,100
essentially he's essentially a
baron. He's now a baron. He's

1295
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:28,680
never asked for any of these
things. We have to has he been

1296
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,160
knighted? I wonder. But this is

1297
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:39,780
his fourth Wow, annual donation
of 123 4.56. He wants his job

1298
01:16:39,780 --> 01:16:43,080
karma. Please send me job comm
I've done this the past three

1299
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,580
years and karma continues to
come through for me so I can

1300
01:16:47,610 --> 01:16:52,740
push it along to both of you. So
every year, he gets his karma.

1301
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:56,280
Then he sees what happens if he
didn't. Then he sends us another

1302
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,550
12345 Joe, he's done this four
years in a row is neuro well,

1303
01:16:59,580 --> 01:17:01,140
and I think that's remarkable.

1304
01:17:01,170 --> 01:17:05,310
Well, he should be he should be
Barend a night in Italy. I don't

1305
01:17:05,310 --> 01:17:06,120
think he's I don't know. Well,

1306
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,000
we'll get into it and we'll give
them a special ceremony right

1307
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:09,960
the first of the year.

1308
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,330
Absolutely. Let's give him the
jobs karma because the here it

1309
01:17:12,330 --> 01:17:13,050
is your annual

1310
01:17:13,290 --> 01:17:21,030
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
go. Karma.

1311
01:17:22,860 --> 01:17:23,850
Nice, thank you.

1312
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,740
RS back and then we have this
anomaly. Hold on one sec. Let me

1313
01:17:28,740 --> 01:17:29,940
try one more search.

1314
01:17:30,690 --> 01:17:34,620
I already looked because I
recall the email Oscar sent.

1315
01:17:35,190 --> 01:17:38,010
Yeah, he sent but it was about
this other small amount of

1316
01:17:38,010 --> 01:17:44,250
money. And let me take one more
quick quickie. Suddenly it takes

1317
01:17:44,250 --> 01:17:44,580
a second.

1318
01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:49,170
Well, I have the spreadsheet for
Thursday. It was the same

1319
01:17:49,170 --> 01:17:52,830
number. And his karma works more
details to come and a bigger

1320
01:17:52,830 --> 01:17:55,440
donation. So I don't know what
the bigger donation is.

1321
01:17:55,440 --> 01:18:00,930
His is this one which is $936.72
with no note, so if he has

1322
01:18:00,930 --> 01:18:03,510
something to say he'll tell us
later. Let us know. Then we have

1323
01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:08,910
Barry Hannah who I can't find
anything from from Okotoks

1324
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,380
Oh, I love her. I know Okotoks
Yeah. Okotoks they have a big

1325
01:18:13,380 --> 01:18:17,100
rock that means big rock. Yeah,
this is a big rock. And it's in

1326
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:18,480
the movie is big rock.

1327
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:23,670
Well, there you have it. Very,
very also note this note list

1328
01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:28,590
varies from a $600. So those are
the big three for today. Don

1329
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:32,460
McGreevy in Davenport, Iowa
$350. And he says, Thanks for

1330
01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:35,700
the seven years of enlightening
us slaves loved the show notes

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write the column

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it's about time right? It's

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gonna be co authored so you get
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global warming, not 97% You're
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says, keeps the discussion short
while they're all grabbing their

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smartphones. Here's to a
prosperous 2015 For those

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listening to no agenda behind
enemy lines. We should be in

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Washington DC Correct? Sir Ted
ha husband in San Jose,

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California 34567. Sir Ted,
Streets of San Jose checking in

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01:19:36,030 --> 01:19:38,490
once again for my annual
birthday donation. We have you

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on the list December 22,
George's, Nicholas McFaul and he

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01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,620
had earned in Virginia 23611.
Gentlemen, I'm finally ready to

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01:19:46,620 --> 01:19:48,990
step up and take my place in the
no agenda roundtable have been

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01:19:48,990 --> 01:19:51,660
loyal listener for seven years
but only started donating this

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01:19:51,660 --> 01:19:55,380
year. The analysis presented on
the show is outstanding. I

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01:19:55,380 --> 01:19:57,570
couldn't think of a better show
to support I would encourage

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01:19:57,570 --> 01:20:00,840
every listener to make a
donation even small one wins as

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01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,520
the first is the hardest. Donate
to no agenda show has made me

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01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,060
more charitable in other
situations as well. This is a

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01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:15,180
known outcome of, of support.
It's your support, it changes

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01:20:15,180 --> 01:20:20,340
the way things work if you
donate, donate donated and no

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01:20:20,340 --> 01:20:22,830
agenda show has made me more
charitable in other situations

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01:20:22,830 --> 01:20:27,300
as well. One, the inadvertent
one of the unamortized side

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01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:31,560
benefits. I'd like to be known
henceforth, henceforth is Sir

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01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:37,230
Nick of the South Side. Yeah.
I'd like it a is it ISIL or

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01:20:37,620 --> 01:20:42,750
ISIL? ISIS or ISIL? LG why karma
shot for the show? hosts and all

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01:20:42,750 --> 01:20:46,260
the producers of the best
podcast in the universe. Thanks,

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01:20:46,530 --> 01:20:48,120
sir Nick of the South Side.

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01:20:48,150 --> 01:20:50,700
I'm not you know, this is
problematic because I'm not

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01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:51,990
really remembering

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01:20:52,140 --> 01:20:54,840
any ISIS ISIL

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01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:59,310
No, we have a see what we have
we have here as a couple of

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01:20:59,310 --> 01:21:07,050
clips we have oh, Biden. Let me
see. I don't remember John. I'll

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01:21:07,050 --> 01:21:08,130
shoot what is it? You know, I

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01:21:08,130 --> 01:21:11,070
use a Biden common conversation
now and nobody ever

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01:21:12,990 --> 01:21:15,360
no one ever caught no one
questions it whatever is like

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01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,690
yeah, whatever. But yeah, I'm
sure you're right. Now of

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01:21:18,690 --> 01:21:18,960
course,

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01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:21,570
we don't have that clip. So
sorry. Sorry.

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01:21:22,410 --> 01:21:25,620
Oh, hold on a second. Let me
leave bash this thing over the

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01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:28,890
head for a moment. Let me see if
I can get this for you. I don't

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01:21:28,890 --> 01:21:34,650
know what's going on. Oh, come
on people. It's a computer.

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01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:41,340
Yeah, no, it's a people believe
me. Okay. What is this? This is

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01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:50,460
like my something gets stuck.
Give me one second. Now. I have

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01:21:50,460 --> 01:21:51,810
to I have to conquer this

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01:21:54,600 --> 01:22:00,570
right. This is all I have. The
machine is a little we will

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01:22:00,570 --> 01:22:04,050
follow them to the gates of
hell. Hell,

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01:22:05,490 --> 01:22:09,510
we got it. We're done with good
karma. Karma. You got it. We're

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01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:11,010
done. We're good. I'm amazing.

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01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:13,440
That was the Clippy one that was
the one you want. I found Yeah,

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I saw it. It was worth it. Wow.
No, but that's worth. It was

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01:22:17,670 --> 01:22:24,240
worth it come. Roderick Leonard
in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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01:22:24,630 --> 01:22:33,630
20202 ITM boys, your analysis of
late has been spot on. Spot on.

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,090
I say up the good work. I
punched my friend Ken in the

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01:22:36,090 --> 01:22:39,420
mouse several times before he
caught the no agenda fever. But

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01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:42,690
he's hooked now and just
originally punched his wife to

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01:22:45,450 --> 01:22:47,850
newcomers thinking when they
hear this stuff says not good.

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01:22:47,850 --> 01:22:51,120
You shouldn't be punching his
wife. And they're encouraging

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01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,030
it. This is not that's call him
out for being a Boehner who

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01:22:54,030 --> 01:22:58,500
loves the show but hasn't
donated yet. You're my soul news

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01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:03,330
source. Well, that is the other
news is we as I mentioned in the

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01:23:03,330 --> 01:23:06,330
newsletter, which was actually
co written this week.

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01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,390
What do you what do you mean co
written?

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01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:12,240
You had your name on it? It's
normally on Saturday. She has a

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01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,870
newsletter for me. Oh, yeah. I
think I did pretty good. Didn't

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01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:20,580
care. I did very well. And it's
that you get to watch the real

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01:23:20,580 --> 01:23:23,370
news or the real news of the
commercial news and laugh at it

1406
01:23:23,370 --> 01:23:26,730
because it's so it's actually
hilarious. Anyway, shows like

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01:23:26,730 --> 01:23:30,330
this the only real unknown the
media and we must support the

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01:23:30,330 --> 01:23:35,550
cause. Exactly. Yes. So he wants
to go Liberty clap Don't eat me.

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01:23:35,550 --> 01:23:41,310
Hillary. Her head has gone
little girl yay. Messages clear.

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01:23:42,570 --> 01:23:48,720
Clip. Hillary Clinton and her
head is gone.

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01:23:51,300 --> 01:23:52,980
You've got karma.

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01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,500
It's actually not bad.

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It's a lot of work. But

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yeah. Push a button. Oh, yeah,

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01:24:00,150 --> 01:24:02,370
it's one button. Yeah, I'm not
doing anything else. Now.

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01:24:02,580 --> 01:24:04,890
You should have the How about
that for an idea. You put them

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01:24:04,890 --> 01:24:06,900
in a little queue and you hit
one button.

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01:24:07,410 --> 01:24:11,340
It's It's so not so much the
hitting the button. It's finding

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01:24:11,370 --> 01:24:14,340
all of the different things that
people want that are bas

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01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:19,440
Vaughn Beto in bateau Bay, New
South Wales Australia tuner

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01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:23,370
dollars Hi there John and Adam.
It's been a while since I

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01:24:23,370 --> 01:24:27,090
donated last so here it's time
to send some Christmas cash.

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01:24:27,330 --> 01:24:31,470
Christmas cash who assist in
keeping you off the cheese line.

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01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:36,660
And I have a you slaves can get
used to mac and cheese at the 4x

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01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:38,190
Boom shakalaka karma

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Yeah, we can do that. Hold on a
sec. Yeah,

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01:24:42,450 --> 01:24:46,590
I see. This is a great work and
have a cool you'll he says cool

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01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:52,920
you. Your slaves can get at
least a mac and cheese. Macaroni

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,470
and Cheese shatter melted
together

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01:24:55,530 --> 01:24:59,280
mac and cheese mac and cheese
mac and cheese. Boom shakalaka

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01:24:59,490 --> 01:25:01,770
boom. Boom shaka laka Boom shaka

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01:25:02,939 --> 01:25:05,819
laka you've got harmonic

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01:25:10,260 --> 01:25:13,020
that's our executive and
Associate Executive producers

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01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:17,640
for show 680. That's right. So
we have another show coming up,

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01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,830
of course, and we didn't need
all the support we can get all

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01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:23,610
the time. That is our special
Christmas Extravaganza. Right?

1437
01:25:23,610 --> 01:25:26,850
And that will be show 681
reminding you to go to divorce

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01:25:26,850 --> 01:25:30,780
that org slash and a find a
program there or just go to

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01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:34,470
that, you know, the, any of the
links that we sent you in the

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01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:35,100
newsletter.

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01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:40,980
Yeah, they're all valid data org
slash and of course, we always

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01:25:40,980 --> 01:25:44,340
need you to be out there doing
your utmost to help us propagate

1443
01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:45,840
the formula our formula

1444
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:54,960
is this we go out for people in
the mouth world

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01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:13,740
you go, there we go. That isn't
it interesting. No, the that

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01:26:13,740 --> 01:26:15,720
will hurt guy about Cuba. Of
course

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01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,300
I looked at and I'm, I'm gonna
do some research on this guy.

1448
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:20,940
Because I'll bet you if you look
into it, you're gonna find some

1449
01:26:21,330 --> 01:26:24,630
information, that is bullcrap.
All you have to

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01:26:24,630 --> 01:26:28,740
do really is look at that video,
which is about about 25 minutes.

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01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:32,310
And he gets tired at the end.
But then he starts saying, Well,

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01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:34,410
look, this is what I've been
talking about for 19 months. And

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01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:36,780
if this is my background, this
is my expertise, right? This is

1454
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:39,930
what I do. Right? And it's just
no, no, I'm sorry, dude, this is

1455
01:26:39,930 --> 01:26:46,020
not what you do. But this Cuban
liberty and democratic society

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01:26:46,020 --> 01:26:52,470
act of 1996. Not 86 Is the labor
Todd act. I think he is right,

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01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:54,900
though, in that regard. I do not
see how

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01:26:54,990 --> 01:27:00,030
No, no. So he's right. It's been
talked about in other outlets.

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01:27:00,750 --> 01:27:03,960
They talk about this to an
extreme they say all Obama can

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01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,660
do is relieve you know, make it
easier to try he can't do

1461
01:27:06,660 --> 01:27:09,570
anything about most of these
sanctions as they're written in

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01:27:09,570 --> 01:27:12,360
law there. There is a
congressional the Congress has

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01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,520
to change things in the
Republicans aren't going to do

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01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:19,050
that now. I mean, we already got
to shot over the bow by Rubio.

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01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:21,420
So no, they're not going to
change anything. They're just

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01:27:21,420 --> 01:27:23,790
going to have now we can travel
a little easier. Go back and

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01:27:23,790 --> 01:27:26,040
forth. But there's the all the
other stuff still in play. Let's

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01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,070
go they've apparently been set
shipping and food. I was

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01:27:29,070 --> 01:27:32,820
watching our tea, obviously.
Yeah, it was shipping and food

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01:27:32,820 --> 01:27:36,090
all along and Americans have in
a roundabout way

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,570
and all kinds of woodwork, all
kinds of work.

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01:27:40,260 --> 01:27:42,540
But once the Republicans get a
clue that the Canadians are

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01:27:42,540 --> 01:27:45,570
buying the place up, they should
change the laws

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01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:51,480
go down under for a moment. The
Prime Minister Abbott, he's

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01:27:51,660 --> 01:27:55,560
Prime Minister I bet I don't
think we have one of those.

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01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,500
We're gonna need one pretty
soon. We're gonna need an Abbott

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01:27:58,500 --> 01:27:59,610
to shout.

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01:27:59,850 --> 01:28:02,550
Geez, all we need is the Lucas
lab and Costello

1479
01:28:04,890 --> 01:28:10,170
been it's so we have this one
event, which of course is not

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01:28:10,170 --> 01:28:13,980
such a nut job. Whether he was a
patsy or not, I mean, the guy is

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01:28:14,010 --> 01:28:19,470
completely psycho. Then because
he asked for a flag that says

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01:28:19,470 --> 01:28:23,250
now, we are no longer innocent
in Australia. This is this is

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01:28:23,250 --> 01:28:28,590
the terror. The terror is here.
This is it. It's all over

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01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:32,190
people. We are now we are no
longer innocence. These are the

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01:28:32,190 --> 01:28:35,610
things these are this is what
being said. In fact, here is

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01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:37,980
Abbott just lay it on

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01:28:38,010 --> 01:28:45,120
these events to demonstrate that
even a country as free, as open,

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01:28:45,690 --> 01:28:51,840
as generous and as safe as ours
is vulnerable to acts of

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01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,890
politically motivated violence.
Madam Speaker, regrettably, for

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01:28:55,890 --> 01:29:01,080
some time to come. Australians
will have to endure more

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01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:05,280
security than we used to. Yeah,
more inconvenience than we'd

1492
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:09,840
like. Regrettably, for some time
to come. The delicate balance

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01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:13,500
between freedom and security may
have to shift.

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01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,710
I love it when they do that. Oh,
that was

1495
01:29:16,710 --> 01:29:21,120
slick. Just as an aside about
all these dangers of living in

1496
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:26,100
Australia, because you can own
guns play the clip. stabbings in

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01:29:26,100 --> 01:29:29,760
Australia, Australia stabbings.
Make sure this going on at the

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01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,740
same time though, of course,
yes.

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01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,220
In Australia, eight children had
been found dead and a woman

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01:29:35,220 --> 01:29:38,730
injured an apparent mass
stabbing. The bodies were found

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01:29:38,730 --> 01:29:41,610
at home and MINOURA a suburb of
Karen

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01:29:44,850 --> 01:29:49,770
Hello, hello, safety. This is
Liberty calling off douchebag

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01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:55,680
There you go, everybody. Hey,
Australia. Welcome. Welcome.

1504
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,220
Welcome. Welcome. By looking at
this thing, it's the foreign

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01:29:59,220 --> 01:30:02,940
fighters bill. act with
counterterrorism legislation

1506
01:30:02,970 --> 01:30:08,010
amendments, the foreign fighters
bill of 2014. This is great.

1507
01:30:09,540 --> 01:30:11,850
Australia's current
counterterrorism laws comprise

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01:30:11,850 --> 01:30:14,400
four legislative regimes
introduced under the House

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01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,190
administration. So we have some
things are going to be changing.

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01:30:18,030 --> 01:30:20,670
So they have they already had
control order to control the

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01:30:20,670 --> 01:30:23,130
behavior of person what's
considered necessary to prevent

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01:30:23,130 --> 01:30:28,230
a terrorist act control orders
love this. The prison colony is

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01:30:28,230 --> 01:30:31,650
resurrected, preventative now
that's a natural preventative

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01:30:31,650 --> 01:30:34,230
detention orders which allow
police to detain a person for up

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01:30:34,230 --> 01:30:36,810
to 14 days if there are
reasonable grounds to suspect he

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01:30:36,810 --> 01:30:39,840
or she is planning on will
engage in a terrorist act. Stop

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01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,360
search and seizure powers which
allowed police to stop and

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01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,120
search persons vehicles premises
seize items that could be used

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01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:49,770
in a terrorist offense like a
peroxide question and detention

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01:30:49,770 --> 01:30:52,980
warrants which allowed the ASI
Oh, this is the the ASI. Oh,

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01:30:52,980 --> 01:30:56,250
this was the you can't have more
than three people in a room

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01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:59,940
together or something. Yeah, to
detain a person for questioning.

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01:30:59,969 --> 01:31:02,519
Okay, solitary confinement,
they're looking for that. That's

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01:31:02,579 --> 01:31:02,999
next.

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01:31:03,330 --> 01:31:06,660
So now we have new offenses for
traveling to a quote declared

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01:31:06,690 --> 01:31:11,790
area, this is now new. The bill
is introduced a crime punishable

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01:31:11,940 --> 01:31:15,570
by up to 10 years imprisonment
per person traveling to an area

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01:31:15,570 --> 01:31:18,120
in a foreign country that has
been declared by the Australian

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01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,540
Government to be one where a
listed terrorist organization is

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01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:27,540
engaging in hostile activity.
That is a declared area. You

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01:31:27,540 --> 01:31:30,630
can't go there. No. Well, you
can but if flow Do we have a

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01:31:30,630 --> 01:31:35,040
list of the declared areas yet?
Well, we do know that the

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01:31:35,070 --> 01:31:39,420
foreign minister has declared
serious al Rocca Province, which

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01:31:39,420 --> 01:31:41,910
is the de facto

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01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:45,030
Syria you just go there for you
know, the hanging out for a

1536
01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:46,950
while then you go to the
province, how they're gonna know

1537
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:47,610
you went there? Well,

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01:31:47,610 --> 01:31:51,240
if they if they catch you, they
might see you with the drone,

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01:31:52,590 --> 01:31:57,570
new offenses for advocating
terrorism. The second advance me

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01:31:57,810 --> 01:31:59,130
Well, would you like to hear it,

1541
01:31:59,550 --> 01:32:01,140
but as advocating terrorism.

1542
01:32:01,980 --> 01:32:04,020
This is the second offense
introduced by the bill makes it

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01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:08,250
a crime for a person to
intentionally advocate the doing

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01:32:08,250 --> 01:32:11,520
of a terrorist act or the
commission of a terrorist

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01:32:11,550 --> 01:32:16,110
offense, where he or she is
reckless as to whether another

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01:32:16,110 --> 01:32:21,600
person will actually do the act
or commit the offense. And this

1547
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,560
is interesting. So you if if you
did this on the tweeters, for

1548
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,250
instance, and someone read it
now, you know, it'd be reckless

1549
01:32:29,250 --> 01:32:32,130
for you to do this in public. If
you said he should go blow

1550
01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:38,790
something up. Ah, yeah, this I
think this is a free speech

1551
01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:41,250
issue right there, which I guess
that in Australia doesn't have

1552
01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:41,880
that perhaps?

1553
01:32:42,060 --> 01:32:45,420
No, no, no, they've obviously
don't. The other couple things

1554
01:32:45,420 --> 01:32:45,810
I've added

1555
01:32:45,810 --> 01:32:48,060
here the foreign minister
Foreign Affairs Minister can now

1556
01:32:48,060 --> 01:32:54,210
suspend a person's passport for
a period of up to 14 days. On

1557
01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:57,360
the if there's reasonable
grounds of suspicion, the person

1558
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:02,070
may leave Australia to engage in
conduct that might prejudice the

1559
01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:05,760
security of Australia or a
foreign country by goodness.

1560
01:33:06,180 --> 01:33:10,350
Isn't any proof? I think you
might be going over to do

1561
01:33:10,350 --> 01:33:13,200
something tonight. You should
just give me your passport. No,

1562
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:13,350
they

1563
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:14,730
took that from our playbook.

1564
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:18,450
The Immigration Minister must
now cancel a person's temporary

1565
01:33:18,450 --> 01:33:22,230
or permanent visa. If there's a
reasonable suspicion, the visa

1566
01:33:22,230 --> 01:33:26,370
holder might be directly or
indirectly a risk to security.

1567
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:31,140
If the risk isn't confirmed, the
visa holders family members may

1568
01:33:31,140 --> 01:33:34,200
at the minister's discretion
also have their visas cancelled.

1569
01:33:36,270 --> 01:33:39,750
Customs officers now have the
power to detain persons

1570
01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:42,000
suspected of committing any
Federal offense.

1571
01:33:42,270 --> 01:33:47,220
Second, yes, sir. There they
talking about which visas are

1572
01:33:47,220 --> 01:33:48,060
they talking about?

1573
01:33:48,090 --> 01:33:49,950
If you're coming from a
different country? Or if

1574
01:33:49,950 --> 01:33:53,040
you're coming in? Yes. Yes. If
you're if you're a guest if

1575
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,310
you're a guest, and okay, I'm
custom

1576
01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:59,640
off a customs officers. If
you're going into Australia to

1577
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,720
buy I'm going into Australia,
hey, Australia, here I am. They

1578
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:07,530
have the power to detain persons
suspect suspected of committing

1579
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:11,730
any Federal offense that is
punishable by imprisonment of 12

1580
01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:15,240
months or more. But you just got
there. Yeah, they can grab you.

1581
01:34:15,450 --> 01:34:19,740
Hold on a second. Yeah. Okay.
You're going to Australia they

1582
01:34:19,740 --> 01:34:20,190
can stop

1583
01:34:20,190 --> 01:34:23,040
I mean, Australia to do No.

1584
01:34:23,879 --> 01:34:26,969
Offense can you possibly create
you haven't even gotten past the

1585
01:34:26,969 --> 01:34:28,379
border of guy. Well, maybe

1586
01:34:28,380 --> 01:34:31,470
I just tweeted, hey, I'm here to
see if I can find any terrorist

1587
01:34:31,470 --> 01:34:33,570
to blow some stuff up. I don't
know something like that. It

1588
01:34:33,570 --> 01:34:36,480
could be anything that would be
an offence under this bill.

1589
01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:36,900
Yeah. But

1590
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:39,180
they usually don't let you
communicate when you're in that

1591
01:34:39,180 --> 01:34:43,980
area. So you land and you're
they I've landed at you but when

1592
01:34:43,980 --> 01:34:48,660
you're landing in from outside
in the United States, no cell

1593
01:34:48,660 --> 01:34:51,690
phones. You can do that while
you're

1594
01:34:51,690 --> 01:34:54,660
taxiing while you're taxiing to
the gate. Which of the jetway

1595
01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:56,340
you could be on your phone.

1596
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,490
All right, well, I guess you
could do that. Here I am. We're

1597
01:34:59,490 --> 01:35:03,240
ready to go. they'll have things
yeah I guess you could okay

1598
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:04,260
giving continue

1599
01:35:04,290 --> 01:35:07,230
giving customs officers greater
power to detain persons without

1600
01:35:07,230 --> 01:35:11,580
charge risks infringe the rights
of freedom for any arbitrary

1601
01:35:11,580 --> 01:35:15,600
detention of course, but this is
all obviously for your safety

1602
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,720
and shall not be question please
do not question authority.

1603
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:26,160
subjugation is liberation.
Contradiction is the facts of

1604
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,430
this world, and you will refer
to them

1605
01:35:32,250 --> 01:35:36,720
that's right. Pigs and human
clothing. One thing on the

1606
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:42,600
caliphate I found here, we sent
another 1500 troops to Iraq

1607
01:35:42,990 --> 01:35:47,580
wasn't widely reported. No.
embarrassing, but there is yes,

1608
01:35:47,580 --> 01:35:49,980
it of course, it's embarrassing.
There is something new which

1609
01:35:49,980 --> 01:35:55,560
John Kerry started two weeks
ago, you know, we've had this

1610
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,770
issue this branding issue, which
we quite frankly think is been

1611
01:35:58,770 --> 01:36:04,470
kind of good ISIS ISIL is now
now everyone's just saying dash.

1612
01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:09,000
This is just, this is the new
new new official word,

1613
01:36:09,180 --> 01:36:13,260
dad. No, I saw this dash thing
emerge, and I can find the

1614
01:36:13,260 --> 01:36:14,490
genesis for it. Well, I

1615
01:36:14,490 --> 01:36:17,760
have some of that here. First,
let me play for you, Lieutenant

1616
01:36:17,790 --> 01:36:22,470
General James Terry, with the
announcement of more troops

1617
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:27,570
going to, to destroy a note to
degrade and ultimately destroy

1618
01:36:27,570 --> 01:36:29,520
and it used to be ISIL. Now it's
DASCH.

1619
01:36:29,580 --> 01:36:33,510
Iraqi security forces must be a
capable force, one that can

1620
01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:39,120
restore racks sovereign borders,
retake territory from dash, and

1621
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:43,530
secure the Iraqi people and
offensively minded and trained

1622
01:36:43,530 --> 01:36:47,250
security force backed by an
inclusive government rack is the

1623
01:36:47,250 --> 01:36:50,760
key to future stability. As you
know, we have been authorized an

1624
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:55,410
additional 1500 US personnel.
They will serve in non combat

1625
01:36:55,410 --> 01:36:58,080
roles to support additional
advice and assist requirements

1626
01:36:58,500 --> 01:37:01,710
and the building partner
capacity effort. In addition, we

1627
01:37:01,710 --> 01:37:04,590
anticipate coalition
contributions that should

1628
01:37:04,590 --> 01:37:09,000
produce at least an additional
1500 personnel in these efforts.

1629
01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:13,740
We're seeing initial successes
in this fight. Uh huh. My

1630
01:37:13,740 --> 01:37:16,560
assessment is that dash has been
halted and transitioning to the

1631
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:20,340
defense has attempted to hold
what they currently have. You

1632
01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:23,610
will see some local counter
attacks in that regard. There

1633
01:37:23,610 --> 01:37:27,150
will be challenges down the road
that will require patience. The

1634
01:37:27,150 --> 01:37:30,390
Government of Iraq understands
the great threat they face and

1635
01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:33,420
they resolve to defeat it. The
Combined Joint Task Force

1636
01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:37,650
represents what I believe is a
new chapter of what ISIS will be

1637
01:37:37,650 --> 01:37:40,350
a successful campaign to bring
the coalition's power to bear

1638
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,170
and ultimately lead to the
defeated dash

1639
01:37:44,220 --> 01:37:48,300
defeated dash okay, so dashing
alright this big this began in

1640
01:37:48,300 --> 01:37:52,380
June and this is the French
Yeah, it

1641
01:37:52,380 --> 01:37:53,730
was it Correct Correct. French

1642
01:37:53,730 --> 01:37:58,350
decided they're going to use the
arabic derived term dash D a e

1643
01:37:58,350 --> 01:38:03,000
sh, RS also De Da is I
apostrophe some or other? Yes.

1644
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:06,540
And it never took but now it's
taking then that's the

1645
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:10,650
interesting part. will carry
apostrophe is H Yes.

1646
01:38:10,830 --> 01:38:15,990
When when you age when Carrie
which means door lot nation.

1647
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:22,710
I'll Islamia Iraq as a sham
which is Syria in the Levant. So

1648
01:38:22,710 --> 01:38:25,440
it's really a collection of ISIS
started this

1649
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:29,910
started in June and now in
December, it's now being

1650
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:33,630
recognized by us why? What's the
reason for the change?

1651
01:38:33,660 --> 01:38:38,940
I don't know. Other than that, I
believe when Kerry went to get a

1652
01:38:38,940 --> 01:38:44,640
new authorized use of military
force and when he was being

1653
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,400
questioned, we played one or two
clips because of course he's so

1654
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,010
boring I can't risk my
reputation with you anymore to

1655
01:38:50,010 --> 01:38:55,770
play any more carry clips. He
was using dash which I believe

1656
01:38:55,770 --> 01:38:59,250
he needs to encompass more
groups. It's such an income all

1657
01:38:59,250 --> 01:39:03,330
encompassing name. This you
know, it's everybody now it's

1658
01:39:03,330 --> 01:39:08,220
just everybody. Yeah, it just I
just want a to be able to use

1659
01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:13,680
force on anybody who's Brown and
lives in this general sandy

1660
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:21,300
area, which is pretty much what
exactly what he asked for. All

1661
01:39:21,300 --> 01:39:25,740
right. I don't see any other
reason why it's these guys are

1662
01:39:25,740 --> 01:39:30,810
so tricky, John, all they care
about is it's using words to get

1663
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:32,970
them to get whatever they think
is necessary or whatever they

1664
01:39:32,970 --> 01:39:34,200
need whatever they want.

1665
01:39:36,150 --> 01:39:42,810
While on the topic of this area,
I was combing through old clips,

1666
01:39:42,990 --> 01:39:46,290
which I do occasionally to look
to read listen to them and see

1667
01:39:46,290 --> 01:39:49,470
if there's anything use or
there's stuff that we missed to

1668
01:39:49,470 --> 01:39:53,190
about 2010 I heard this and I've
never heard about it since I

1669
01:39:53,190 --> 01:39:57,120
don't think we use either not
played and we never discussed

1670
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:01,230
it. And I've haven't heard
anything about Got a sense, but

1671
01:40:01,230 --> 01:40:09,240
this was a 60 minutes report on
on Afghanistan and how we, you

1672
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:13,200
know, the Taliban is winning the
war and so the Afghani people

1673
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:17,730
won't do anything do any deals
with us, because they think

1674
01:40:17,730 --> 01:40:20,280
we're gonna is gonna leave and
screw them. And they're all

1675
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,710
gonna get killed for talking to
us sort of thing. And that was

1676
01:40:22,710 --> 01:40:25,080
about that and right in the
middle of it because they were

1677
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:31,320
talking about a or discussing a
improvised explosive device that

1678
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,050
they were taking out and then it
was going to be an ambush. But

1679
01:40:34,050 --> 01:40:37,500
this little one little clip is
2010 clip a new information is

1680
01:40:37,500 --> 01:40:40,860
just I don't remember it. I
don't remember picking this up

1681
01:40:40,860 --> 01:40:42,840
before. And I don't know what's
going on now. But this is

1682
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:44,340
interesting. Using new

1683
01:40:44,340 --> 01:40:48,390
and secret technology. The
Marines destroyed an IED from

1684
01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:52,560
long range while it was still
being planted in the road. I've

1685
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,710
got information man, new shit
has come to light.

1686
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:58,500
So can you follow up with that?

1687
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:00,150
I'm there brother.

1688
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,620
Remember this? I don't I don't
remember this. God or some beam

1689
01:41:04,620 --> 01:41:05,070
or something?

1690
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:09,390
Oh, no. Energy directed
weaponry. Of course. This is

1691
01:41:09,390 --> 01:41:12,360
what I knew. If he's affirm
confirmed, this is what our new

1692
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:15,660
Secretary of Defense is
specialized in directed energy

1693
01:41:15,660 --> 01:41:19,920
weapons. Yeah. Yeah. What? So
what you see the guys planting

1694
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,530
the thing? You shoot down a
little ray beam, and then it

1695
01:41:22,530 --> 01:41:23,310
explodes

1696
01:41:23,550 --> 01:41:27,780
and blows him up with it? Yeah.
It's a genius. I would assume

1697
01:41:27,780 --> 01:41:31,230
that if it's some sort of device
that if it's directed energy,

1698
01:41:31,230 --> 01:41:34,110
and they get heat, it doesn't
take much to blow up something

1699
01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:37,800
if it's explosive, if you can
heat it up. So you aim this

1700
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:42,270
thing there and it heats it up.
Targeted it heat it up and blow

1701
01:41:42,270 --> 01:41:42,900
it up. Yeah.

1702
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:47,400
Yeah. While the guys are still
there. Yeah, it's beautiful

1703
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:50,790
genius. Are we good? Or what?
Yeah, we're

1704
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:51,330
great.

1705
01:41:51,660 --> 01:41:55,860
Hey, this, Ash Carter, is the
new the new guy if he's

1706
01:41:55,860 --> 01:42:02,370
confirmed, and I really see no
reason why he won't be key. He's

1707
01:42:02,370 --> 01:42:06,720
really all about the Straits of
Malacca and China. You see, it

1708
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,440
seems to be much more interested
in that region of the world in

1709
01:42:10,440 --> 01:42:13,710
the Middle East. Which is
interesting, because you kind of

1710
01:42:13,710 --> 01:42:16,650
think that the reason Hegel was
pushed out is because Hegel

1711
01:42:16,650 --> 01:42:21,720
didn't want to do all this, this
bullcrap in the Middle East. And

1712
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:27,180
I, but I see nothing. But Asia
news coming from his general

1713
01:42:27,180 --> 01:42:30,690
direction, particularly the
Straits of Malacca, which is all

1714
01:42:30,690 --> 01:42:34,620
about blocking China's
waterways. So we got to keep our

1715
01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:37,320
eye on this guy. I have no idea
what you do

1716
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,260
is there's some action with
Putin in Russia and and that

1717
01:42:40,260 --> 01:42:41,040
area, too.

1718
01:42:41,190 --> 01:42:47,580
Yeah. In fact, the BBC. It was
unbelievable. The BBC had this

1719
01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:54,060
whole special on it was like a
mini super package, like a mini

1720
01:42:54,060 --> 01:42:57,360
special, a super package kind of
in between, like a 15 minute

1721
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:02,940
thing. And, and of course, well,
you know, Putin hates gays and

1722
01:43:02,940 --> 01:43:06,480
gays or, you know, you're not
safe in Russia as if you're gay.

1723
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:10,950
It's not you can't No no, no.
And this they bring this news as

1724
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:13,770
if it's all true. All happening
now.

1725
01:43:13,830 --> 01:43:17,730
Even this giant iPhone is
unacceptable here now taken off

1726
01:43:17,730 --> 01:43:21,570
the streets after the boss of
Apple revealed he was gay. This

1727
01:43:21,570 --> 01:43:25,020
is where the iPhone statue used
to stand. Now there's this

1728
01:43:25,020 --> 01:43:29,040
festive tree here, and just an
empty space like a new monument

1729
01:43:29,220 --> 01:43:33,300
to increasing intolerance here.
Human Rights Activists say that

1730
01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:36,960
since the law banning so called
gay propaganda was passed. It's

1731
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,290
like people have been given a
license to be homophobic. They

1732
01:43:40,290 --> 01:43:42,900
say it's not just about the
artwork, of course, homophobic

1733
01:43:42,900 --> 01:43:44,610
attacks are on the rise.

1734
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:49,380
So this has long been debunked
this iPhone thing.

1735
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:53,880
And the iPhone guy have a clip.
Apple is so big in Russia, and

1736
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,700
that they had to back off on a
couple of Yeah, because of the

1737
01:43:56,700 --> 01:43:59,580
ruble, the ruble thing is
screwing them and this and they

1738
01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:03,600
showed this is from our tea, of
course, all rigged may or may

1739
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,620
not true. But they go to an
Apple store in Moscow. And

1740
01:44:07,620 --> 01:44:10,350
they're places packed with
people buying iPhones and Apple

1741
01:44:10,350 --> 01:44:12,510
products. But this is the story
is kind of interesting.

1742
01:44:12,630 --> 01:44:16,530
Oh, were forced to stop trading
online here in Russia this week.

1743
01:44:16,830 --> 01:44:20,460
Their products at one point were
$100 cheaper to buy here in

1744
01:44:20,460 --> 01:44:24,150
Russia than in the US. The tech
giant justified this move on

1745
01:44:24,150 --> 01:44:27,270
their side as extreme ruble
fluctuations.

1746
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,860
I had that last night. Extreme
ruble fluctuations. Yeah, I bet

1747
01:44:31,860 --> 01:44:33,240
you didn't feel very good

1748
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:37,170
now that they not only have the
places to buy the phones and

1749
01:44:37,170 --> 01:44:40,260
stores but they have an online
presence of their wishes what

1750
01:44:40,260 --> 01:44:43,470
they had to back off on because
the ruble was screwing up right.

1751
01:44:43,530 --> 01:44:47,220
And they were selling all the
Apple products online for $100

1752
01:44:47,220 --> 01:44:50,970
less than we have to pay. Yeah.
How does that other story make

1753
01:44:50,970 --> 01:44:51,960
any sense at all?

1754
01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:57,060
No. It's bull crap. We know that
this this thing was not removed

1755
01:44:57,060 --> 01:44:59,970
because Tim Cook tollens Tom,
whatever his name said he's gay.

1756
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,540
A Tom Collins, Tim Collins. This
is not true. It's just not true.

1757
01:45:06,540 --> 01:45:09,360
And they are lying. But you
know, we heard about this

1758
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:12,210
somewhere. So I guess it's true.
Nope. And look, this empty spot

1759
01:45:12,210 --> 01:45:18,480
looks like a new monument and
just went on in the if you are,

1760
01:45:18,900 --> 01:45:24,420
if you are gay in Saudi Arabia
off with your head, they get

1761
01:45:24,420 --> 01:45:27,870
beheaded all the time, but there
are there are more crimes

1762
01:45:27,870 --> 01:45:32,610
against gays, lesbians, LGBTQ
Qi, HIV in the United States

1763
01:45:32,610 --> 01:45:38,610
than ever occur in Russia. Come
on. Stop using that. Stop using

1764
01:45:38,610 --> 01:45:42,690
my gay brothers and sisters for
a punching bag for your bags.

1765
01:45:43,470 --> 01:45:48,030
Hey, Putin is not okay. And you
gave gay brothers and sisters

1766
01:45:48,030 --> 01:45:52,080
stand up and reject this. reject
it.

1767
01:45:52,650 --> 01:45:56,010
And other retail news from
Russia. I had no idea that

1768
01:45:56,010 --> 01:45:58,590
there's IKEA is all over the
place. And they were just they

1769
01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:01,350
showed him some movies of it.
And they're just like an IKEA

1770
01:46:01,350 --> 01:46:03,840
and you know here in Emeryville?
I'm sorry.

1771
01:46:03,900 --> 01:46:04,470
Yes.

1772
01:46:05,130 --> 01:46:08,970
Shopping that went wild. This
week. IKEA suspended sales of

1773
01:46:08,970 --> 01:46:11,280
kitchen and home furniture in
Russia because it's been

1774
01:46:11,340 --> 01:46:15,870
overloaded with orders to the
company. And now so be doubly no

1775
01:46:15,870 --> 01:46:20,820
sharp rises in prices. It'd be a
gradual one because of the ruble

1776
01:46:20,820 --> 01:46:23,880
exchange rate. But that didn't
stop the crowds. As shoppers

1777
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,610
expect prices to surge next
year.

1778
01:46:27,900 --> 01:46:30,330
Can you imagine the margin on
that crap, considering they

1779
01:46:30,330 --> 01:46:31,980
don't have to even raise the
prices?

1780
01:46:32,759 --> 01:46:33,809
It's junk.

1781
01:46:34,860 --> 01:46:38,610
Some Assembly Some Assembly
Required other words that make

1782
01:46:38,610 --> 01:46:40,200
me shudder. This?

1783
01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:43,680
The whole Russian thing is very
interesting. We have to keep up

1784
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:44,130
with it.

1785
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:49,110
I don't know. Yeah. I don't know
how much to keep up with. Well,

1786
01:46:49,110 --> 01:46:49,380
there's

1787
01:46:49,380 --> 01:46:55,230
like there's going ahead. It
turns out that our our problems

1788
01:46:55,230 --> 01:46:59,940
are with Russia or not deterring
them from continuing to actually

1789
01:46:59,940 --> 01:47:00,930
have an economy.

1790
01:47:01,290 --> 01:47:10,290
Vladimir Putin invited Kim Jong
Hoon to come to Moscow next year

1791
01:47:10,290 --> 01:47:13,770
to Mark Yes. 70th anniversary of
the Soviet defeat of Nazi

1792
01:47:13,770 --> 01:47:19,650
Germany. Right. And he would
like to discuss a

1793
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,890
pipeline. Yeah. Huh. Coincidence
from

1794
01:47:22,980 --> 01:47:27,690
No, never from North Korea to
its southern neighbor, South

1795
01:47:27,690 --> 01:47:30,120
Korea for some Gazprom pipeline.

1796
01:47:32,010 --> 01:47:33,750
And it makes nothing but sense.
Yeah.

1797
01:47:33,930 --> 01:47:37,050
It's makes a lot of sense for
set for the South Koreans for

1798
01:47:37,050 --> 01:47:37,530
sure.

1799
01:47:37,890 --> 01:47:40,620
Yeah. They don't need ships
coming in with the gas when you

1800
01:47:40,620 --> 01:47:41,970
could pump it in. No.

1801
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:48,420
It's flabbergasting that this
has not been looked at to

1802
01:47:48,420 --> 01:47:57,450
previously. Yeah. Let me see.
The Treasury secretary. Of

1803
01:47:57,450 --> 01:48:01,230
course, there's so much about
the Sony and you know, whatever

1804
01:48:01,230 --> 01:48:06,030
our Christmas which Jingle
Bells, Kwanzaa, Bah, humbug,

1805
01:48:06,030 --> 01:48:12,630
Kwanzaa, Solstice, that we don't
really hear much when the

1806
01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:16,290
Treasury Secretary speaks. And
they found what he's this is

1807
01:48:16,290 --> 01:48:19,320
Jacob Liu, who was our new
Treasury Secretary, he followed

1808
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,860
in the footsteps of Tim
Geithner, a guy who can't figure

1809
01:48:22,860 --> 01:48:26,370
out how to use TurboTax to file
his taxes I haven't forgotten.

1810
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:34,350
And he the way he put this was
very strange. This is about

1811
01:48:34,350 --> 01:48:37,320
Social Security. And this is
kind of his state of the his

1812
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:41,040
annual State of the Union, if
you know how much longer this

1813
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,550
thing is funded, but then for
some reason, he pulled a piece

1814
01:48:44,580 --> 01:48:48,390
out and said, If you know, if
you look at this piece by

1815
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:51,720
itself, it's only funded for two
years, see if you can figure out

1816
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:54,960
what is going on with this and
what the messaging is, when

1817
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:55,530
considered

1818
01:48:55,530 --> 01:48:58,140
on a combined basis. Social
Security's retirement and

1819
01:48:58,140 --> 01:49:01,290
disability programs have
dedicated funds sufficient to

1820
01:49:01,290 --> 01:49:05,520
cover benefits for the next 19
years. After that time, as was

1821
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:08,520
true last year, it's projected
that tax income will be

1822
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,370
sufficient to finance about
three quarters of scheduled

1823
01:49:11,370 --> 01:49:12,000
benefits.

1824
01:49:12,060 --> 01:49:15,780
And by the way, that puts me in
a screwed position. That's a

1825
01:49:16,260 --> 01:49:18,720
that's about the time that I'm
going to retire. No, he

1826
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:22,350
said 19 years you retire and he
says you're 50 He had a big

1827
01:49:22,350 --> 01:49:27,060
birthday. No, no. Are you
kidding me? Chiron 1516 years,

1828
01:49:27,150 --> 01:49:28,110
the retirement age.

1829
01:49:28,110 --> 01:49:29,730
Well, baby, they keep moving it
out. I'll

1830
01:49:29,730 --> 01:49:30,930
be raising it out big

1831
01:49:30,990 --> 01:49:34,380
by the seven. Yeah, you will be
right at the point it happens is

1832
01:49:34,410 --> 01:49:34,950
boom.

1833
01:49:34,980 --> 01:49:37,890
And guess who's going to be part
of that 15% That isn't funded,

1834
01:49:37,890 --> 01:49:40,050
you know, it's going to be
podcasters. If we're the first

1835
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,180
podcasters verse to go, here's
the rest of it.

1836
01:49:42,330 --> 01:49:45,420
However, Social Security's
disability program alone has

1837
01:49:45,420 --> 01:49:48,420
dedicated funds sufficient to
cover all scheduled benefits for

1838
01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:51,420
only two years. Well, as was
true last year, beginning in

1839
01:49:51,420 --> 01:49:55,860
2016. Projected tax income will
be sufficient to finance about

1840
01:49:55,860 --> 01:49:59,520
80% of scheduled benefits.
Legislation will be needed to

1841
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:02,340
avoid this disruptive reductions
in benefit payments to

1842
01:50:02,730 --> 01:50:03,990
vulnerable population.

1843
01:50:04,020 --> 01:50:11,550
Okay, so combined he says 18
years and then we go to 85% but

1844
01:50:11,550 --> 01:50:16,830
if you take disability out
that's only good for two years

1845
01:50:17,010 --> 01:50:20,430
we need new laws to I guess
print more money or put some

1846
01:50:20,430 --> 01:50:23,820
money into the into the coffers.
Can he do that? Is that how it

1847
01:50:23,820 --> 01:50:26,730
works? Do you separate that out
of this? Or is this just a

1848
01:50:26,730 --> 01:50:29,880
general way to get more money
because people are going holy

1849
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:30,450
crap

1850
01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:34,740
way to get more money because
most most of the Social Security

1851
01:50:34,740 --> 01:50:38,970
system is legislated and they
just can't randomly cut it off I

1852
01:50:38,970 --> 01:50:41,790
mean it's legislate you have to
provide the money it's in the

1853
01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:42,480
law

1854
01:50:43,410 --> 01:50:45,690
bro this is this does not bode
well then

1855
01:50:47,250 --> 01:50:51,180
that's bull crap okay

1856
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,950
dig into this down to the
simplest aspect but his bull

1857
01:50:55,950 --> 01:51:00,030
crowd I mean there is a scam out
there trying to that's kill

1858
01:51:00,030 --> 01:51:03,180
Social Security and make the
people invest their own money as

1859
01:51:03,180 --> 01:51:06,030
though their preferred is as
though every Tom Dick and Harry

1860
01:51:06,030 --> 01:51:09,180
out there is a professional
investor and they're not I mean,

1861
01:51:09,180 --> 01:51:11,310
the idea is Yeah, put your all
your money in the stock market

1862
01:51:11,310 --> 01:51:15,120
to keep the stock market boosted
then when it collapses to bad

1863
01:51:16,140 --> 01:51:19,920
and which is what would happen
they did get screwed like with

1864
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:24,900
all these lot of pros lost their
acid, the 2007 2008 debacle. How

1865
01:51:24,900 --> 01:51:28,080
does the public supposed to fare
in this thing now you need? I

1866
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,180
don't want to sound like a
socialist but you need the

1867
01:51:30,180 --> 01:51:35,160
government to be the fishnet
stockings to catch everything

1868
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:38,040
damn commie. Yeah, county

1869
01:51:39,420 --> 01:51:41,880
got a rich and poor update,
which doesn't bode well.

1870
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,760
Okay. into it. It.

1871
01:51:45,060 --> 01:51:47,940
And the gap between rich and
poor in the United States has

1872
01:51:47,940 --> 01:51:52,500
reached a new high. A new report
by the Pew Research Center finds

1873
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:55,380
the gulf between rich families
and middle and low income

1874
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:58,290
families is the largest it's
been 30 years of data

1875
01:51:58,290 --> 01:52:01,740
collection. Pew found that while
affluent families became

1876
01:52:01,740 --> 01:52:06,090
wealthier from 2010 to 13,
middle income families stayed

1877
01:52:06,090 --> 01:52:08,910
the same while poor families got
poorer.

1878
01:52:08,940 --> 01:52:11,910
Yeah. It's a Wonderful Life.
Everybody

1879
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:17,430
knew something up with that. I
also have a well I'll say this,

1880
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:23,310
I like this clip later. Here's
one that bugged me just kind of

1881
01:52:23,310 --> 01:52:26,010
just bugged me. And I went did
some research and looking at,

1882
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:27,420
you know, the Tea Party.

1883
01:52:27,690 --> 01:52:32,160
DS the original Tea Party was of
course, surrounded Ron Paul with

1884
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:37,500
his money bombs, and then it was
hijacked by the Republican

1885
01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:38,250
fringe.

1886
01:52:40,260 --> 01:52:44,850
I want to play the 60 Minute
teaser clip. And I wanted I want

1887
01:52:44,850 --> 01:52:50,280
to see if there's any if you go
look on the Wikipedia at all the

1888
01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:54,780
Tea Party sites, there's one
name there's one name you will

1889
01:52:54,780 --> 01:52:58,530
never find I did searches for
the guy's name. And this is the

1890
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,780
kind of the target of this
particular clip

1891
01:53:01,590 --> 01:53:05,490
of Senator Tom Coburn is known
as the godfather of the Tea

1892
01:53:05,490 --> 01:53:08,730
Party. So what does he think of
President Obama? I just love him

1893
01:53:08,730 --> 01:53:12,360
as a man that and other
surprises Sunday on 60 minutes

1894
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:17,490
to Tom Coburn apparently
Holborn, Tom Coburn, apparently

1895
01:53:17,490 --> 01:53:21,900
but going to 60 minutes in his
wonderful journalism. He calls

1896
01:53:21,900 --> 01:53:24,390
him the godfather of the Tea
Party. You'll never find any

1897
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:27,630
reference like that. He's gay, I
guess I don't know what the

1898
01:53:27,630 --> 01:53:29,400
point of this this teaser was.

1899
01:53:29,610 --> 01:53:35,280
I have this is beyond me. I have
no idea. No idea.

1900
01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:40,050
The reason rewriting history.
You know, one of the things we

1901
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,690
tried to do, at least on this
show is be on the right side of

1902
01:53:42,690 --> 01:53:45,540
history. We try to be on the
right side of history and we

1903
01:53:45,810 --> 01:53:51,300
defend against their constant
attempts to rewrite history.

1904
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:55,140
Yes. And this is a rewrite of
history of there ever was I

1905
01:53:55,140 --> 01:53:59,340
mean, Tom Coburn Tea Party. He's
just some guy with a wig.

1906
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,570
Anyway, yeah, but a little Pepe
No,

1907
01:54:03,570 --> 01:54:06,360
you're absolutely right. And
this and of course, Tea Party

1908
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,990
became Tea baggers. And it's
just it's a very it's very,

1909
01:54:10,050 --> 01:54:14,910
I got co opted by Tea Party
Express and those bags up. Y'all

1910
01:54:14,910 --> 01:54:16,170
a lot of mother, Texas.

1911
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,190
All but all of it is just name
calling and not good for

1912
01:54:20,190 --> 01:54:23,370
anything. It's really all of
it's just horrible. don't like

1913
01:54:23,370 --> 01:54:24,060
any of it.

1914
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:26,970
Do something else. I don't like

1915
01:54:27,780 --> 01:54:29,940
ants. And C says

1916
01:54:30,780 --> 01:54:34,260
please. Colorado sued a very
short clip. Okay.

1917
01:54:35,460 --> 01:54:39,600
Two states have sued Colorado in
the Supreme Court over its

1918
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,720
legalization of marijuana.
Earlier this year, Colorado

1919
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:46,920
became the first state to allow
recreational marijuana, Nebraska

1920
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:50,700
and Oklahoma claim the opening
of marijuana shops has led to an

1921
01:54:50,700 --> 01:54:53,550
influx of the drug in
neighboring states.

1922
01:54:55,170 --> 01:55:00,300
Okay. This is I think this is
what you're going to try it Do

1923
01:55:00,300 --> 01:55:03,420
that get get this thing reversed
because after the DC thing

1924
01:55:03,420 --> 01:55:06,750
happened, right, you know, they
tried to they they're not going

1925
01:55:06,750 --> 01:55:11,340
to fund it. This is the
Republicans. And so they found

1926
01:55:11,340 --> 01:55:13,830
two states that were amenable
because there's other states

1927
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:17,610
bordering Colorado that don't
give a crap. And I don't even

1928
01:55:17,610 --> 01:55:20,160
know if Oklahoma does Oklahoma
actually bought a border on

1929
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:24,210
Colorado. I think so. Let's take
a look on the maps.

1930
01:55:24,270 --> 01:55:26,280
This feels bad. I don't know
that.

1931
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,400
Well, either. We can, you know,
the states you don't have to

1932
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,860
know every border, you know,
connection,

1933
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:35,190
I believe maps,

1934
01:55:35,490 --> 01:55:40,860
and maybe the Panhandle does
this back on Google Maps. I'm

1935
01:55:40,860 --> 01:55:46,380
looking. Kansas is directly
north. Yes. And Google Maps is

1936
01:55:46,380 --> 01:55:47,730
not producing my map.

1937
01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:50,850
We have Arizona. Okay, New
Mexico.

1938
01:55:51,300 --> 01:55:56,010
Are you looking at the very tip?
Yeah. Absolute tip of Oklahoma.

1939
01:55:56,040 --> 01:56:01,740
North of Texas. Touches
Colorado, right? Barely just a

1940
01:56:01,740 --> 01:56:05,670
tip. So it is a border state and
Nebraska is the same way it

1941
01:56:05,670 --> 01:56:08,430
doesn't really have a big border
a Kansas is a border state. They

1942
01:56:08,430 --> 01:56:11,040
don't care. Anyway, the point
is, I think they're gonna

1943
01:56:11,730 --> 01:56:13,290
there's nobody in Kansas man.

1944
01:56:14,130 --> 01:56:19,560
We drove through, you're gonna
go after this. They can't do

1945
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:23,130
anything with with they can't
get anyone to play ball against

1946
01:56:23,130 --> 01:56:26,880
Washington, because Oregon's all
in on that idea that you can get

1947
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,480
dope up there. And then Montana
and Idaho was your close the

1948
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:34,380
other two close states, then?
Yeah, and I can imagine. Yeah,

1949
01:56:34,380 --> 01:56:37,800
it's anyway, you're gonna start
to see this sort of thing as a

1950
01:56:38,010 --> 01:56:40,980
as a trick to get

1951
01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:45,929
federal rallies to bust balls
over, especially in Colorado,

1952
01:56:45,930 --> 01:56:47,190
where they very aggressive.

1953
01:56:49,380 --> 01:56:52,440
Just different kinds of
different topic. I was reading

1954
01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:56,460
something in the Guardian today,
online, obviously, and it said

1955
01:56:56,460 --> 01:57:01,200
it was brought to you by and
there was a link that explained

1956
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:04,920
what this meant. And, and this
is part of how news is changing.

1957
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:08,760
The Guardian. Isn't a guardian
supposed to didn't they have a

1958
01:57:08,940 --> 01:57:12,900
they have some charter there's
they're holier than thou and

1959
01:57:13,290 --> 01:57:17,580
the charter says, We The
Guardian are holier than thou.

1960
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,450
I knew it. I knew it. I knew it.
I knew it. What it says. So they

1961
01:57:21,450 --> 01:57:25,440
have this information page,
which I found called sponsored

1962
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:30,540
content, advertisement features,
and content supported by

1963
01:57:30,540 --> 01:57:34,920
foundations. And, and you're a
news guy, you you're a writer,

1964
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:38,880
you're a magazine columnist,
you've been a reporter, you are

1965
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:43,980
a reporter, you're on the beat,
you're a journalist here. God

1966
01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:46,140
guardian, news and media
produces a variety of content

1967
01:57:46,140 --> 01:57:48,510
with funding from outside
parties. These sources of

1968
01:57:48,510 --> 01:57:52,740
revenue allow us to explore in
more depth and editorial budgets

1969
01:57:52,740 --> 01:57:56,370
would otherwise allow topics
that we hope are of interest to

1970
01:57:56,370 --> 01:58:00,240
guardian and observer readers.
The presentation of the content

1971
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:01,080
makes clear is a

1972
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,330
good bunch of bullcrap I like
it.

1973
01:58:04,650 --> 01:58:08,670
The presentation of the content
makes clear how the content has

1974
01:58:08,670 --> 01:58:12,900
been commissioned and produced
and who was funded it. One of

1975
01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:16,020
the three labels will appear on
this content sponsored by

1976
01:58:16,140 --> 01:58:18,780
brought to you by or supported
by and there's a difference in

1977
01:58:18,780 --> 01:58:21,300
each three and I'd like to
discuss these with you. All

1978
01:58:21,300 --> 01:58:26,760
right. One is sponsored by
sponsored by is used to describe

1979
01:58:26,970 --> 01:58:32,460
editorially independent content.
We accept funding from sponsors

1980
01:58:32,460 --> 01:58:36,510
both for content we are already
producing. We're using funds

1981
01:58:36,510 --> 01:58:39,990
from a sponsor allows us to
provide more in depth coverage

1982
01:58:40,230 --> 01:58:44,460
and for new projects. Before
sponsorship is agreed with the

1983
01:58:44,460 --> 01:58:48,150
client relevant senior editors
are consulted about its

1984
01:58:48,150 --> 01:58:51,630
suitability, and the editor in
chief has the final say on

1985
01:58:51,630 --> 01:58:55,260
whether a sponsorship deal is
accepted. A sponsor whose

1986
01:58:55,260 --> 01:58:59,190
branding appears on editorial
content may have a role in

1987
01:58:59,190 --> 01:59:02,370
suggesting what kind of topics
are covered. But the

1988
01:59:02,370 --> 01:59:05,760
commissioning editor is not
obliged to accept ideas from the

1989
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:09,930
sponsor. The content is written
and edited by guardian and

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01:59:09,930 --> 01:59:14,700
observer journalists or those
approved by GnM. to the same

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01:59:14,700 --> 01:59:18,780
standards as expected and all of
our journalism GnM will not show

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01:59:18,780 --> 01:59:23,040
copy to sponsors for approval.
What do you think of this this

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01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,980
sponsored by a business sounds
like a native advertising to

1994
01:59:25,980 --> 01:59:30,510
me it is yeah, bullcrap. What
would they say to the editor,

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01:59:30,510 --> 01:59:33,090
you know, he's got the file. So
yeah, if you if you're trying to

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01:59:33,090 --> 01:59:38,730
push in a piece of sponsored
content that is obvious mess a

1997
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:42,540
piece of garbage? Yeah, you're
gonna Nix it, except now you

1998
01:59:42,540 --> 01:59:45,150
will take your money, but you
better come up with something

1999
01:59:45,150 --> 01:59:48,690
better than this piece of crap.
And it appears to him by the

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01:59:48,690 --> 01:59:51,930
way, this is where this other
part comes in. So maybe you

2001
01:59:51,930 --> 01:59:54,360
should just let one of our
writers because they would like

2002
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,130
to just write it themselves and
give it to you.

2003
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:59,670
That would be the approved GnM
outsiders.

2004
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:02,820
You Yes, but you but you know,
if you give it to one of our

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02:00:02,820 --> 02:00:06,480
writers, we can do a better job.
Yeah, it will cost you more.

2006
02:00:06,510 --> 02:00:10,020
Because you know, you're having
to pay our writers who don't

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02:00:10,020 --> 02:00:15,000
work as cheap as the PR people
work. Or, in fact, it's not

2008
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:18,960
true. But they Yeah, that's what
that is. And it says total

2009
02:00:19,170 --> 02:00:24,060
native advertising and couched
beautifully to make it seem like

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02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:27,270
there's no chance whatsoever of
corruption, when in fact, they

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02:00:27,270 --> 02:00:30,420
want to run something. They're
big advertisers, they got these

2012
02:00:30,420 --> 02:00:33,360
guys by the nuts. Yeah. And they
say, you know, you don't have to

2013
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:36,300
run this piece. I know you have
some issues with it. But you

2014
02:00:36,300 --> 02:00:40,020
know, we can, we'll just pull
everything that we were just

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02:00:40,020 --> 02:00:43,110
pulled all of our ads, and we'll
walk it over to the, to the

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02:00:43,110 --> 02:00:46,650
Daily Mail or the net Well, or
even any of them, they're all

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02:00:46,650 --> 02:00:51,840
taken. And I would be surprised
if by now, all the British

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02:00:53,820 --> 02:00:57,570
tabloids and all the British
broke broadsheets don't all take

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02:00:57,570 --> 02:01:00,450
native advertising in some form
or other. And so it's, you know,

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02:01:00,450 --> 02:01:02,640
you take it, you take it, you
need the money, and you can

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employ everything, let's do it.
They're pushing the papers

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02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:06,090
around.

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Let's look at the other options,
shall we? Other options. This is

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for the this is for people who
are reading the newspaper, by

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the way. This is to know what so
called product you're receiving

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02:01:16,530 --> 02:01:21,270
to is brought to you by brought
to you by is used to describe

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02:01:21,270 --> 02:01:25,170
advertisement features that are
paid for and controlled by the

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advertiser rather than the
publisher, and are subject to

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02:01:28,740 --> 02:01:32,220
regulation by the Advertising
Standards Authority. This

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02:01:32,220 --> 02:01:35,160
content is produced by
commercial departments, and does

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02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:40,140
not involve GnM, staff
journalists, as brought to you

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02:01:40,140 --> 02:01:44,670
by so that's just an ad, which
is a little fuzzier because

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02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:47,520
you probably you didn't know the
difference because they're using

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the same type font. And looks
just like a story. Yes, you had

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to pay up probably a little more
sponsorships probably cheaper.

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02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,360
Because you know, you lose a
little control. But you have

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02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:00,600
total control, which I didn't
that is like yeah, that's an ad.

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02:02:00,630 --> 02:02:03,210
Yeah. But it's always had
brought to you by

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and casual reader,

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02:02:06,330 --> 02:02:08,670
we've been looking at the
bottom, you see sponsored by are

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02:02:08,670 --> 02:02:11,790
brought to you know, what would
be the difference for the

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02:02:11,790 --> 02:02:15,570
reader. Without looking at this
thing. No one's gonna go look at

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02:02:15,570 --> 02:02:19,080
these these rules. It's just
gonna say, yeah, yeah, it's

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gonna be the same. Well, then we
have the third one, which makes

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02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:26,130
it even more complicated we have
that we have sponsored by

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02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:32,490
brought to you by and then the
third one, supported by and

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02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:37,200
supported by, is used to
describe editorially independent

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02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:41,190
content that the Guardian has
produced with funding from

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02:02:41,310 --> 02:02:46,440
foundations around the world who
support specific projects.

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02:02:47,010 --> 02:02:54,870
Examples could be what a grant
from the Bill and Melinda Gates

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02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:58,200
Foundation to help support the
Guardians Global Development

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02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:04,140
site, or the Joseph Roundtree
and Open Society Foundations

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02:03:04,260 --> 02:03:08,790
that Soros supported the award
winning reading the riots

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02:03:08,820 --> 02:03:16,770
series. So that's that's
content, I presume very much

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02:03:16,770 --> 02:03:22,500
like PBS news hour or the Kaiser
Health Report, which is funded

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02:03:23,430 --> 02:03:26,670
directly from foundations,
nongovernmental organizations

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02:03:26,670 --> 02:03:33,450
who all have an agenda to
support specific projects. Now

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02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:37,260
let me ask you if this guardians
Global Development site which

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02:03:37,290 --> 02:03:42,360
I'll go take a look at right
now. Western firms reduce

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Eritrean miners to abject
slavery life on the Ebola

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02:03:47,070 --> 02:03:50,430
frontline I thought of nothing
else except my death. Thai

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02:03:50,430 --> 02:03:53,670
Government censured for failure
to tackle lead pollution or lead

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02:03:53,670 --> 02:03:57,060
police pollution sorry lead
Sustainable Development Goals

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eight ways reality can match
ambition this is all presented

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02:04:00,210 --> 02:04:03,840
by the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation, they are funding

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02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:09,870
this entire all of this Ebola in
Sierra Leone burial workers put

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02:04:09,870 --> 02:04:11,670
Dignity Before danger.

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02:04:12,570 --> 02:04:16,620
Now what was the of the three
give me the order again? Okay,

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02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:23,880
the order is sponsored by Okay,
brought to you by and supported

2070
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:28,230
by Okay, so the just brought to
you by is just a straight AD.

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02:04:28,650 --> 02:04:32,250
The other two R's kind of
beating around the bush ad,

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02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,710
sketchy now the funny thing
about the garden because I'm

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02:04:34,710 --> 02:04:40,500
doing some looking around. They
have their sponsored features as

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02:04:40,500 --> 02:04:45,750
an actual link, so you can see
what they are sponsored features

2075
02:04:45,750 --> 02:04:48,810
planning and pitching
nonfiction, Beginner's Guide to

2076
02:04:48,810 --> 02:04:54,090
social media for business, how
to write better copy. I'm sure

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02:04:54,090 --> 02:04:57,150
if I look at any one of these I
can tell who the advertiser is.

2078
02:04:57,570 --> 02:05:00,720
Why is it important to marry
data quality? to do with patient

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02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,750
safety, that's got to be really
exciting.

2080
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:07,650
IBM Watson, five

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02:05:07,650 --> 02:05:12,180
things to do in Brighton at
Christmas, brought to you by the

2082
02:05:12,180 --> 02:05:17,280
locals in Brighton. How to get
music journalists with Tim Jones

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02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:20,640
on the December 18, how to write
and publish a book about food,

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02:05:20,700 --> 02:05:23,160
take lots of pictures of the
food and tweet them. Yes, that's

2085
02:05:23,730 --> 02:05:26,820
get your followers up before
writing your writing. Here's

2086
02:05:26,820 --> 02:05:30,690
another copywriting a two day
bootcamp infographic storing of

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02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:34,140
storytelling a one day workshop
Okay, let's pick one of these

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02:05:34,140 --> 02:05:34,530
and see who

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02:05:34,530 --> 02:05:36,600
now where are you looking where
are you finding this

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02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:43,500
on this under the
guardian.com/cohn/sponsored

2091
02:05:43,500 --> 02:05:47,670
features? So they apparently put
their sponsored features on the

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02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:50,520
download page for people who
want to look at just this one ad

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02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:52,710
it wants to look at just
sponsored features I would

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02:05:52,710 --> 02:05:56,490
assume there's a brought to you
by our support features to maybe

2095
02:05:56,490 --> 02:05:58,170
I don't know there's only one I
could find

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02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:00,750
Well, these would all be
sponsored features Oh Boyd

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02:06:00,750 --> 02:06:03,990
sponsored was was the first
category

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02:06:03,990 --> 02:06:07,050
right that's the catalyst
writing these are on behalf of

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02:06:07,050 --> 02:06:07,860
an advertiser

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02:06:07,860 --> 02:06:11,910
right well let's take the WHO
how to be a music journalist by

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02:06:11,940 --> 02:06:15,540
with Tim Jones who will Jim
Jones probably bottom and should

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02:06:15,540 --> 02:06:18,780
say at the bottom of the page it
should say sponsored by

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02:06:19,050 --> 02:06:23,010
going and as the name of the
company it doesn't I don't see

2104
02:06:23,010 --> 02:06:25,080
it I don't see it either.

2105
02:06:25,140 --> 02:06:26,910
It's supposed to say sponsored
by

2106
02:06:27,180 --> 02:06:34,530
Yeah. Oh wait no Twitter profile
No. Sponsor by so they're not

2107
02:06:34,530 --> 02:06:40,530
even doing that much strange.
Music may look like

2108
02:06:41,010 --> 02:06:44,580
this is a sales job to sign up
to how to become a music

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02:06:44,580 --> 02:06:48,510
journalist. And it's cost you
$99 pounds

2110
02:06:49,470 --> 02:06:51,930
and is that ad is being done by
the Guardian Okay, they're

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02:06:51,930 --> 02:06:55,890
sponsoring house out the house
ad okay so House said let's find

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02:06:55,890 --> 02:06:57,870
a different one all right. How
sad

2113
02:06:58,860 --> 02:07:01,590
they shouldn't Beginner's Guide
to social media for business

2114
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,970
about that. Okay, and let me I
can't get back to the page there

2115
02:07:05,970 --> 02:07:06,060
it

2116
02:07:06,060 --> 02:07:09,810
is. Oh, this is this is all
their this is another house that

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have 249

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02:07:11,550 --> 02:07:14,880
So this whole thing seems to be
rather dubious. And that just

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this is gonna be one here that's
not from them. I don't know. Do

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02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,980
image technology transforms
color blind viewing experience

2121
02:07:22,980 --> 02:07:24,630
this cannot be from them.

2122
02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:27,390
Let's go to the bottom border.
You see.

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02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:30,840
This is a u u e a spin off

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i tech okay,

2125
02:07:33,210 --> 02:07:34,170
I says it Yeah,

2126
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:38,040
I tech does it say it's let's
say it's sponsored by high tech.

2127
02:07:38,430 --> 02:07:42,510
I'm looking currently I tech
supports individuals with Dota

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02:07:42,510 --> 02:07:47,340
or not no PA? No proto? No, Pa
doesn't say anything? No, they

2129
02:07:47,340 --> 02:07:50,340
don't see it really doesn't
doesn't disclaim it does it?

2130
02:07:50,670 --> 02:07:51,600
Know that it is a

2131
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:52,680
plug because it just as

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02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:57,450
brought to you by very small on
the left hand side. You EA o

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02:07:57,450 --> 02:08:01,920
University of East Anglia Wow,
could the type be any type font

2134
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:03,480
be any swell write

2135
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:06,480
that but it's not as part of the
stream of the story? No, it's in

2136
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:10,050
fact they have a UEA
advertisement on the right

2137
02:08:10,050 --> 02:08:13,860
column. Oh yeah, click here
applied to the University known

2138
02:08:13,860 --> 02:08:17,040
for the experience. This is the
worst kind of journalism in the

2139
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:21,300
world. Yes, it's the pieces
written by for the University of

2140
02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:25,620
Anglia it has a very small thing
is this brought to you by it

2141
02:08:25,620 --> 02:08:27,870
doesn't even refer to the artist
sponsored

2142
02:08:27,870 --> 02:08:29,670
by sponsored by sponsor rights
is

2143
02:08:29,670 --> 02:08:30,570
brought to you by

2144
02:08:32,220 --> 02:08:34,860
but it shouldn't be it's from
the sponsored by page.

2145
02:08:35,340 --> 02:08:38,340
Well maybe they mixed brought to
you by a smile knows what's

2146
02:08:38,340 --> 02:08:42,420
good. This is terrible. Yeah, it
really is. And then an

2147
02:08:42,420 --> 02:08:45,540
advertisement right next to it.
Click here

2148
02:08:47,310 --> 02:08:51,360
this is horrible. Now this is
where we can just I just want to

2149
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:52,170
use this is the

2150
02:08:52,170 --> 02:08:55,410
guardian when it served the
Pulitzer Prize it says under the

2151
02:08:55,410 --> 02:08:59,940
logo that's right and acceptable
behavior says

2152
02:08:59,940 --> 02:09:03,840
right winner of the Pulitzer
Prize Yes. And what the and what

2153
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:07,860
they're not writing for
commercial interest. The Mi six

2154
02:09:07,860 --> 02:09:13,950
is telling him to write. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah, I know that it

2155
02:09:13,950 --> 02:09:16,170
surprised me too. That's why I
really wanted to bring it up.

2156
02:09:16,170 --> 02:09:20,670
Just I was like, wow, did they
have any category that's just

2157
02:09:20,670 --> 02:09:22,230
known as a journalism.

2158
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:27,450
Yeah, you can find it in there
once in a while. It's really

2159
02:09:27,450 --> 02:09:30,510
much work as they said in that
little pitch about it. Well, we

2160
02:09:30,510 --> 02:09:33,390
don't we can't afford to do
these stories, but we'll take

2161
02:09:33,390 --> 02:09:35,490
money and then we'll do them.
Well,

2162
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:39,960
this is not how we choose to
operate anymore. This is a

2163
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:45,030
classic classic example of you
the audience being the product

2164
02:09:45,030 --> 02:09:49,170
in fact, if I if I load this
page, right now that can tell

2165
02:09:49,170 --> 02:09:53,340
you here it is. Just the
Guardian self. Audience science

2166
02:09:53,340 --> 02:09:57,000
Criteo double click fossa
Facebook Connect Google AdWords

2167
02:09:57,810 --> 02:10:00,720
Crux digital Outbrain and just
keeps on doing

2168
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:04,560
the ones that the code does the
trackers, cookies and trackers

2169
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:06,570
that are in trouble. Yeah,
they're all just, they're

2170
02:10:06,570 --> 02:10:08,040
tracking you like a dog. They're

2171
02:10:08,340 --> 02:10:12,720
like a dog exactly like a dog
dressed up as Sandy. Anybody

2172
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:15,930
know, in fact, the other day, I
want to just, here's a big

2173
02:10:15,930 --> 02:10:20,760
secret. I wanted to find out had
a discussion and some just some

2174
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:26,070
research. What are the top
podcast apps views to listen to

2175
02:10:26,070 --> 02:10:30,240
the no agenda show? So, so void
zero, and I were working on

2176
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:33,210
this, then the first thing he
says is, well, the concept of

2177
02:10:33,210 --> 02:10:36,810
the top is kind of the problem,
obviously, what do you mean? So

2178
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:44,100
there is no actual simple way to
calculate these requests. Some

2179
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:51,810
apps, request chunks of the file
many times rapidly, which is

2180
02:10:51,810 --> 02:10:56,250
actually a protocol developed by
Apple. And so it shows up as a

2181
02:10:56,250 --> 02:11:00,420
whole bunch of lines requesting
different portions of the same

2182
02:11:00,420 --> 02:11:03,480
file. So you have to filter that
out. And you know, there's

2183
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:08,280
there's proxies and network
address translation, there

2184
02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:14,820
really, truly is no way unless
you have some kind of tracking

2185
02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:18,660
on in the app itself, which
doesn't tell you anything about

2186
02:11:18,660 --> 02:11:21,990
apps. But you know, if you have
tracking in the app, yeah, then

2187
02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:24,720
you can see who's listening and
what they're doing. But across

2188
02:11:24,750 --> 02:11:28,290
all these different apps, you
have no idea. You cannot know

2189
02:11:28,620 --> 02:11:34,140
what the top is. It's just it's
a farce. It's it's a lie. You

2190
02:11:34,140 --> 02:11:41,640
cannot track absolute numbers on
podcasts. Now you can there ways

2191
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:45,030
that pod track does it that give
them some other forms of

2192
02:11:45,030 --> 02:11:47,730
reporting, but truly, you
really, you really don't know

2193
02:11:47,730 --> 02:11:52,020
all that much. It redirects.
It's, it's Yeah, yeah, exactly.

2194
02:11:52,020 --> 02:11:54,690
It's redirect, you don't know if
someone stopped, you just don't

2195
02:11:54,690 --> 02:11:58,860
know. So this model is breaks,
it doesn't work. It does not

2196
02:11:58,860 --> 02:12:04,650
work. And besides that, you wind
up with stupid content like this

2197
02:12:04,650 --> 02:12:10,860
University of East Anglia puff
piece. That's why I'm very happy

2198
02:12:10,860 --> 02:12:12,930
that we're doing it the way we
do it. At

2199
02:12:16,050 --> 02:12:20,250
the University of East Anglia,
I'm going to show my school by

2200
02:12:20,250 --> 02:12:23,430
donation to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do

2201
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:24,960
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

2202
02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:37,260
By the way, we made some basic
decisions on how we would count

2203
02:12:37,260 --> 02:12:39,750
stuff. Are you interested in
what we think? Yeah. What

2204
02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:40,470
do you think?

2205
02:12:40,530 --> 02:12:44,700
So what we think, is, it's
always counterintuitive, where

2206
02:12:44,970 --> 02:12:49,980
there's so many more Android
handsets out there. But the when

2207
02:12:49,980 --> 02:12:53,400
it comes to podcast, listening,
head and shoulders above

2208
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:58,590
anything, though, as far as we
know, is the Apple iOS podcasts

2209
02:12:58,650 --> 02:13:07,050
app. Yeah, that's number one.
And number two is Stitcher. Now,

2210
02:13:07,050 --> 02:13:11,970
that's both iOS and Android with
iOS being slightly higher than

2211
02:13:11,970 --> 02:13:16,770
Android, and num, Stitcher,
Stitcher. The guys who put ads

2212
02:13:16,770 --> 02:13:21,750
into the into the when you pause
it Stitcher. And number three is

2213
02:13:22,260 --> 02:13:27,120
overcast, which is I believe,
iOS only. And then the really

2214
02:13:27,120 --> 02:13:29,940
drops down. And then you get all
these things like dog catcher,

2215
02:13:29,940 --> 02:13:34,260
and then all these other ones,
but it's far and almost

2216
02:13:34,260 --> 02:13:40,740
everything combined. All other
apps barely equal what Apple iOS

2217
02:13:40,740 --> 02:13:45,270
podcasts app in all of its
different versions does with

2218
02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:47,610
this podcast. And I'm going to
presume it's the same for a lot

2219
02:13:47,610 --> 02:13:49,140
of podcasts. I find that
interesting.

2220
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:54,810
Yeah, no, I find it fascinating.
I had to say it's similar and

2221
02:13:54,810 --> 02:13:57,390
kind of fast. I don't think I
can bring it up for some reason.

2222
02:13:57,630 --> 02:14:01,230
But MailChimp, which takes care
of the newsletter, and I hope

2223
02:14:01,230 --> 02:14:03,930
people would subscribe and not
unsubscribe, because

2224
02:14:03,930 --> 02:14:07,890
occasionally, it's really great.
I'll say, and we make a lot of

2225
02:14:07,890 --> 02:14:11,130
points in there. Good points.
And they have a list of the

2226
02:14:11,130 --> 02:14:16,380
email clients. And by far the
number one iOS a better? No, no,

2227
02:14:16,380 --> 02:14:20,670
the number one email client in
general is Google Mail. Gmail,

2228
02:14:20,670 --> 02:14:24,240
of course, of course, and that's
all the desktops. But the, if

2229
02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:28,680
you swing over to the mobile,
it's iOS completely weighed up

2230
02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:31,980
the head and shoulders above
everybody else. And in fact, it

2231
02:14:31,980 --> 02:14:34,770
is at the transition point where
there's more people reading the

2232
02:14:34,770 --> 02:14:40,860
Meet email on mobile than they
are on PCs. Because it's casual.

2233
02:14:40,860 --> 02:14:44,460
Yeah, and I've got the news
template is a mobile template.

2234
02:14:44,460 --> 02:14:48,660
So it looks really looks good on
all platforms. But ya know, iOS,

2235
02:14:48,750 --> 02:14:49,530
that is a

2236
02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:51,960
doing a lot of Yeah, no, today I
just want to point it out. Oh,

2237
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,660
okay. Yeah, no, yeah, there. No,
yeah,

2238
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:58,230
I wish I could get switched to
no Yeah, cuz I think that's mind

2239
02:14:58,230 --> 02:15:03,660
boggling. No, yeah. And by the
way, anyway, that should just

2240
02:15:03,660 --> 02:15:05,760
Apple just dominations. And I
think it's because when

2241
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:10,140
podcasting began, it was pod i
pod it was the more orientation

2242
02:15:10,140 --> 02:15:12,600
was that and I think it is
carried over as a tradition.

2243
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:12,930
Well,

2244
02:15:13,380 --> 02:15:18,630
there's more to it, I think. But
I think it's, I think I think

2245
02:15:18,630 --> 02:15:22,350
the experience in Android is
poor. And there's been no

2246
02:15:22,350 --> 02:15:24,990
marketing of any really good
apps that do it. Not that the

2247
02:15:24,990 --> 02:15:28,800
podcasts, do one. I'm thinking
about it. And by the way, I want

2248
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:32,400
to point out to everybody, so
just in case it wasn't obvious,

2249
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:35,070
we don't do any statistics. We
don't crunch the numbers we

2250
02:15:35,070 --> 02:15:38,640
don't care. We do not care about
who's listening where they're

2251
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:42,150
coming from whatever I ask avoid
zero to one at one log file for

2252
02:15:42,150 --> 02:15:46,050
one show for 48 hours. And then
Hannah's for two days we're

2253
02:15:46,050 --> 02:15:51,120
baffled by that I'm so happy
don't do this anymore. Oh yeah,

2254
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:51,270
I'd

2255
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:53,820
rather have a broad based
audience we have kids that

2256
02:15:53,820 --> 02:15:58,170
listen to we have you know,
people in their 80s listening

2257
02:15:58,350 --> 02:16:01,590
and everybody in between and
from all segments of the world

2258
02:16:02,580 --> 02:16:03,990
Yeah, okay, let's thank a few

2259
02:16:04,019 --> 02:16:06,809
but we don't have to show any
advertisers any of that which is

2260
02:16:06,809 --> 02:16:07,859
great. I love it.

2261
02:16:07,889 --> 02:16:11,189
Yeah. Because you have to prove
it do research and all this I

2262
02:16:11,189 --> 02:16:11,729
mean, okay,

2263
02:16:11,730 --> 02:16:16,200
we're not we're not like the big
podcasts that are selling and

2264
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:19,830
MailChimp ads you know and then
when Okay, will will be

2265
02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:22,290
unfettered and we will not have
to deal with any of this

2266
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:26,040
sponsored by bull crap. Right,

2267
02:16:26,190 --> 02:16:29,010
right, which we try to make as
clear as possible. Yes,

2268
02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:33,720
anonymous comes in for 12345
from Ohio, Dayton, Ohio. As a

2269
02:16:33,720 --> 02:16:37,560
matter of fact, Merry Christmas.
He says Andrew cherry in

2270
02:16:37,590 --> 02:16:44,340
Brackley North Hampshire. UK
12345 He wants his karma shot

2271
02:16:44,340 --> 02:16:47,130
for us. We'll put it at that at
the end. Awesome job karma for

2272
02:16:47,130 --> 02:16:52,290
everyone who would request that
you bet a dog God did G dog a

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Digi go? Doga Digi in vacht foot
fucked. You said for Yeah,

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02:17:02,130 --> 02:17:09,390
fucked for an $11.11 and he says
douche cop do scope which was

2275
02:17:09,390 --> 02:17:10,530
just a douche head.

2276
02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:12,869
Yes. That's right douche nozzle.

2277
02:17:15,690 --> 02:17:21,120
Patrick Oh, Baron in Noosaville,
Queensland. $100

2278
02:17:21,150 --> 02:17:23,430
He wants a shout out to Uncle
Don who he thinks has been

2279
02:17:23,430 --> 02:17:26,340
tirelessly working to improve
the lives of millions.

2280
02:17:26,580 --> 02:17:30,360
Maybe grabfood listen to the
show to James wells in Flagstaff

2281
02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:38,580
Arizona. Honored Gareth could
Shin cus kitchens cuss and I

2282
02:17:38,580 --> 02:17:44,070
think I in Southington,
Connecticut. Sam Leung in

2283
02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:50,610
Toronto sir Sam that is Sir Sam
known 80 880-888-8888

2284
02:17:52,559 --> 02:17:55,229
Don't do it. You can always be
doing the eights.

2285
02:17:55,949 --> 02:18:01,049
Judge Sean coffee in Annandale,
New South Wales at 80 areas.

2286
02:18:01,679 --> 02:18:03,299
That was David I was
daydreaming.

2287
02:18:03,629 --> 02:18:08,669
This was a night and I was
daydreaming. And he says Send me

2288
02:18:08,669 --> 02:18:13,019
a comment. Whoa, dude, your
dollars gone way up, man. Yeah,

2289
02:18:13,049 --> 02:18:16,919
I know that we're 75 cents to
our dollar now the Australian

2290
02:18:16,919 --> 02:18:17,099
dollar

2291
02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:20,970
we have the we're at 122 Euro
dollar which is like getting

2292
02:18:20,970 --> 02:18:23,010
there. It's getting down to 120
which is

2293
02:18:23,130 --> 02:18:26,640
I mean, why is because these
great gas prices were down help.

2294
02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:28,080
We're killing it. Here's grand

2295
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:32,220
Smith in Greenville, Texas. 75
also wishes wishes everyone a

2296
02:18:32,220 --> 02:18:38,220
Merry Christmas, Gregory Davies
in Lawton, Oklahoma. 6969 says

2297
02:18:38,220 --> 02:18:40,230
You saved me from insanity.

2298
02:18:41,129 --> 02:18:44,669
I think we've seen if you stay
sane. We've saved a lot. And we

2299
02:18:44,669 --> 02:18:50,099
are saving you. We're saving you
from insanity. David Oh, it

2300
02:18:50,099 --> 02:18:53,639
would be great to you know, read
a little better. The right

2301
02:18:53,639 --> 02:18:56,099
perspective. You go listen to
real news in Krakow. It's

2302
02:18:56,100 --> 02:18:59,100
a healthy news diet. Yes, you
crack up to you crack up.

2303
02:18:59,280 --> 02:19:01,890
Hilarious help, especially this
North Korea stuff.

2304
02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:05,880
Oh yeah, this is some of the
funniest material ever. Scott

2305
02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:09,720
Olsen San Diego, California.
This is David C. Pew in

2306
02:19:09,720 --> 02:19:14,760
Massillon, Ohio. 6969. Scott
Olsen, San Diego, California.

2307
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:20,610
6833 sir Jeff Yorkie over here.
We've got our record project. I

2308
02:19:20,610 --> 02:19:22,170
gotta get back on the stick with
that.

2309
02:19:22,410 --> 02:19:25,080
Is that your red fox project?

2310
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:26,880
Yes. Yes. The red fox project.
Yes. How

2311
02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:29,310
long I've heard about this. It's
like five years you've been

2312
02:19:29,310 --> 02:19:31,770
working on that project? Yeah,
we get a lot of this stuff done.

2313
02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:34,050
Oh, yeah. And what's it what are
you going to release it on?

2314
02:19:34,110 --> 02:19:38,070
We don't know. Right. Would you
like an exercise with it's like

2315
02:19:38,070 --> 02:19:44,100
we're, it's like a.com idea.
Just do it? Yeah. Robert Lane re

2316
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:48,090
Alto, California. $65. Paul love
and Mechanicsville, Virginia

2317
02:19:48,090 --> 02:19:53,160
$60.60 David Oliver in San
Francisco, California $60.

2318
02:19:54,360 --> 02:19:58,980
Jefferson see posts in eastern
Massachusetts double nickels on

2319
02:19:58,980 --> 02:20:04,770
the dime Marian, are ya Marian
Ella Vela 5510. From the

2320
02:20:04,770 --> 02:20:09,600
Philippines. We have too many of
those. George Ober Huffer

2321
02:20:10,230 --> 02:20:16,890
Jackson, New Jersey 5033. Gary
Wiley and scrim Washington. 50

2322
02:20:17,700 --> 02:20:20,220
Is that how you pronounce it?
Because yeah, yeah,

2323
02:20:20,460 --> 02:20:24,000
because it says seq you I am
Sequenza squints. gladwyne

2324
02:20:24,450 --> 02:20:28,440
and after an Indian tribe, new
newbies that show up in the area

2325
02:20:28,440 --> 02:20:32,700
which guys Sequim Oh, wrong.
Yeah, and they beat him up and

2326
02:20:32,700 --> 02:20:35,610
kill him. Throw him in a ditch.
So you better make sure you get

2327
02:20:35,610 --> 02:20:39,660
that right screw handy
Clemmensen main news may Knuth,

2328
02:20:40,380 --> 02:20:41,730
County Kildare,

2329
02:20:41,970 --> 02:20:45,030
Ireland Ireland's nice

2330
02:20:45,750 --> 02:20:48,660
and curiously Eric vite in
Dublin,

2331
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:49,650
California.

2332
02:20:49,770 --> 02:20:50,520
Oh Dublin, Calif.

2333
02:20:51,570 --> 02:20:55,230
Now that's your crazy number
theory right there. Yeah, it's a

2334
02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:58,980
little we got an actual person
from Ireland and underneath that

2335
02:20:58,980 --> 02:21:00,480
someone from Dublin, California.

2336
02:21:00,510 --> 02:21:07,260
Yeah, no, it makes no sense of
it. David small ski in

2337
02:21:07,290 --> 02:21:11,340
Austintown, Ohio 50 These are
all 50s Sir Brian Watson in

2338
02:21:11,340 --> 02:21:15,540
Raleigh, North Carolina Damien
curry, your buddy Ian McLeod,

2339
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:21,720
Victoria. Martin Van Gellin.
Last time Martin

2340
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:25,170
from Mortain from Harlem last

2341
02:21:25,290 --> 02:21:33,990
Mark dang van Darrin last B'nai
Lu in vanadium layer in 50 a shy

2342
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:34,320
was

2343
02:21:34,380 --> 02:21:39,120
that bad? Not even trying just
mocking is mocking just mocking.

2344
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:43,980
I'm not mocking No, no, no, no,
no, you're getting it all wrong.

2345
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:45,540
Now I'm lost.

2346
02:21:46,109 --> 02:21:47,999
woggs go back to banana noon.

2347
02:21:48,900 --> 02:21:54,720
John DeSantis DeSantis in Fort
Pierce, Florida. These are all

2348
02:21:54,720 --> 02:21:59,970
50s Justin Blum and Madison,
Alabama. Danielle Sweezy. In our

2349
02:21:59,970 --> 02:22:04,020
Swayze, possibly in Gresham,
Oregon, Sir David Trotsky in

2350
02:22:04,020 --> 02:22:07,830
Romeoville. Illinois comes in
commonly. And we thank him,

2351
02:22:08,310 --> 02:22:11,820
Benjamin Smith in Oakland over
here by me and Sir Mark Tanner

2352
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:14,430
in Whittier, California. We want
to thank all these folks for

2353
02:22:14,430 --> 02:22:17,250
helping us with the show. 680.
And remember, we have 681 The

2354
02:22:17,250 --> 02:22:22,290
special Christmas show coming up
on Thursday. divorce.org/and A.

2355
02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:25,950
That's right, everybody. Thank
you so much. Especially everyone

2356
02:22:25,950 --> 02:22:29,250
who came in under the $50 level
for anonymity purposes or you're

2357
02:22:29,250 --> 02:22:31,950
on one of the subscriptions. It
really really is highly

2358
02:22:31,950 --> 02:22:35,550
appreciated. I think you really
enjoy the value you get from

2359
02:22:35,550 --> 02:22:38,250
this content so much more. When
is the actual product we put

2360
02:22:38,250 --> 02:22:41,310
together for you and it is a
product we this is not something

2361
02:22:41,310 --> 02:22:44,700
we don't just jump out of bed on
Thursdays and Sundays go Oh,

2362
02:22:44,700 --> 02:22:47,940
yeah, I'm gonna do a show. Hey,
let's do a show. No, we

2363
02:22:47,940 --> 02:22:51,870
are creating a product not using
the public as a product.

2364
02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:55,380
exacting some phony thing that
looks like a product exemption

2365
02:22:55,380 --> 02:22:56,910
is what you're dealing with when
you're watching anything

2366
02:22:56,910 --> 02:22:57,660
commercial, anything

2367
02:22:57,750 --> 02:23:02,490
pretty much anything. Anything,
including NPR and PBS Public

2368
02:23:02,490 --> 02:23:05,310
Radio, public television is not
commercial free.

2369
02:23:05,970 --> 02:23:08,820
They are gonna see you're never
gonna see you.

2370
02:23:09,150 --> 02:23:10,920
Bill Gates sucks shit now.

2371
02:23:12,390 --> 02:23:15,630
You had Burlington Northern
Kentucky I have a complete sex

2372
02:23:15,630 --> 02:23:20,490
scandal. Yeah. And they would
never be discussed on the News

2373
02:23:20,490 --> 02:23:21,300
Hour. Probably

2374
02:23:21,300 --> 02:23:23,160
not. Exactly.

2375
02:23:23,220 --> 02:23:26,220
I do have a no from a 30 I just
drawing something from some of

2376
02:23:26,220 --> 02:23:29,850
the stone. That's a $33 a month
subscriber that has been that

2377
02:23:29,850 --> 02:23:34,080
way for a while. Sure. Set a
note. And he wants to highlight

2378
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:38,220
Fabian sure show from Hanover.
He and his fellow Podcast

2379
02:23:38,220 --> 02:23:40,290
Producer Dan Lynch have been
producing one of the most

2380
02:23:40,290 --> 02:23:43,800
popular Linux podcast Linux
outlaws, and sadly they've

2381
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:48,030
announced the end of the Linux
outlaws. After 370 episodes, we

2382
02:23:48,030 --> 02:23:50,760
could have probably plugged them
earlier. I wanted to see that

2383
02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:54,000
they were recognized fab
frequently talks about no agenda

2384
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:57,630
on his podcast. Why was that? I
probably would have never found

2385
02:23:57,630 --> 02:23:59,820
the show. Why do you think they
stopped? What is it? What

2386
02:23:59,820 --> 02:24:02,280
happened? Well, you don't know.
So if you could find a bit of

2387
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:06,630
christmas spirit to give fab and
Dan. A shout out to let them

2388
02:24:06,630 --> 02:24:07,560
know. Firstly,

2389
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:08,910
thanks for having me in

2390
02:24:08,910 --> 02:24:11,400
the mouth. And secondly, thanks
for the second best podcast in

2391
02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:13,890
the universe. There'll be missed
Tom Green.

2392
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:17,040
This is this is a problem. And
this is also an opportunity,

2393
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,200
John, a

2394
02:24:20,460 --> 02:24:27,810
gap in the market. We do a
literature podcast devora.org/a

2395
02:24:27,810 --> 02:24:31,140
If you wake up with the blues,
Jennifer, you're getting good

2396
02:24:31,140 --> 02:24:37,680
news. There's one thing you must
remember no agenda or a healthy

2397
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:40,920
balanced news diet. Try no
agenda show.com

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02:24:41,820 --> 02:24:47,040
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for
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2399
02:24:57,600 --> 02:25:00,600
can make it really short for
today's birthday? Say When only

2400
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:03,630
one sir Ted Hussman celebrates
tomorrow and we say happy

2401
02:25:03,630 --> 02:25:06,210
birthday to our night of the no
agenda roundtable from all your

2402
02:25:06,210 --> 02:25:11,910
friends here at the best podcast
in the universe. And we also

2403
02:25:11,910 --> 02:25:17,400
have one night. This is Nicholas
McFaul who I think he's this.

2404
02:25:17,430 --> 02:25:19,230
He's been saving for a while.
No.

2405
02:25:20,130 --> 02:25:21,120
I believe so. I

2406
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:24,420
believe so. Let me see. And we
just wait a minute just reread

2407
02:25:24,420 --> 02:25:27,480
his note here. Yes, listen for
several years but only started

2408
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:30,360
Oh, started donating this year.
The analysis presented on the

2409
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:32,220
show was outstanding. couldn't
think of a better show to

2410
02:25:32,220 --> 02:25:34,200
support I would encourage every
listener to make a donation.

2411
02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:38,790
Even a small one as the first is
the hardest. Do you think that's

2412
02:25:38,790 --> 02:25:40,440
true? That's that's the hardest.
The

2413
02:25:40,770 --> 02:25:44,490
people are don't have. They
can't bring themselves a lot of

2414
02:25:44,520 --> 02:25:47,010
our listeners can't bring
themselves to donating anything

2415
02:25:47,010 --> 02:25:49,710
because they think everything
should be free. And meanwhile,

2416
02:25:49,710 --> 02:25:51,990
of course, they're watching
commercial television. Even if

2417
02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:54,090
they're skipping it with their
DVR. They're catching a lot of

2418
02:25:54,090 --> 02:25:58,530
this stuff. And that is the same
as paying. You might as well be

2419
02:25:58,590 --> 02:26:00,450
sending these douchebags money.

2420
02:26:00,480 --> 02:26:04,500
Yeah. Except they're deriving so
much more value from you.

2421
02:26:04,530 --> 02:26:07,770
Yeah, because the product you
get from these commercial

2422
02:26:07,770 --> 02:26:11,910
operations is not outstanding.
It's not as honest. It's

2423
02:26:11,910 --> 02:26:14,970
dishonest material. We're
honest.

2424
02:26:15,630 --> 02:26:19,920
Yeah, we're pretty damn honest.
Yeah, thank you. There's your

2425
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:25,170
sore. Neck mycoplasma. Foul,
step forward, my friend you are

2426
02:26:25,170 --> 02:26:30,180
now becoming a Knight of the no
agenda roundtable. I proudly

2427
02:26:30,210 --> 02:26:33,960
crown the sternick on the south
side for you my friend hookers

2428
02:26:33,960 --> 02:26:36,810
and blow red boys and
Chardonnay, malted barley and

2429
02:26:36,810 --> 02:26:39,840
hops Stasek ease and Dutch
dominatrix as cream with bear

2430
02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:42,990
feelings porn stars and pot.
Cuban cigars and single malt

2431
02:26:42,990 --> 02:26:46,740
scotch Kevin has to get cannabis
in Cabernet opium and warm

2432
02:26:46,740 --> 02:26:50,040
orange juice. About some
wrenches and beer some vodka in

2433
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:52,440
the middle of bargains and
bourbon or someone to some

2434
02:26:52,440 --> 02:26:55,350
muddling meet. It always seems
to be a favorite of all of our

2435
02:26:55,350 --> 02:26:58,080
knights. Thank you very much for
your contributions over the past

2436
02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:00,750
year. And I'm glad you've been
listening in go to no agenda

2437
02:27:00,750 --> 02:27:05,250
nation.com/rings Pick up your
well deserved ring. Everyone

2438
02:27:05,250 --> 02:27:08,040
should do that actually coming
in shortly and tweet the picture

2439
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:09,120
once you get it in with your

2440
02:27:09,150 --> 02:27:14,370
certification will retweet. Yes.
Uncle Don.

2441
02:27:15,810 --> 02:27:17,970
So I've been going back and
forth with Uncle Don on this and

2442
02:27:17,970 --> 02:27:21,870
North Korea thing, as you know,
and I told him I said you watch

2443
02:27:21,900 --> 02:27:23,730
they're going to come out and
they're gonna confirm his North

2444
02:27:23,730 --> 02:27:29,100
Korea. And of course, he has not
gotten back to me. I don't know

2445
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:33,390
exactly why, but I'm sure that
there's all kinds of

2446
02:27:33,390 --> 02:27:41,070
conversations going on now. He
is so vain from the mainstream

2447
02:27:41,070 --> 02:27:45,990
media because of his opinions as
a serious guy you know 50 years

2448
02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:52,620
and CIA ambassador to South
Korea not working for the

2449
02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:56,250
Pacific century Institute. I
think it is I can't remember

2450
02:27:56,250 --> 02:28:00,540
yeah some money guys. V
actually, you know that he when

2451
02:28:00,540 --> 02:28:04,980
he left? The Goldman Sachs gave
him a contract that we talked

2452
02:28:04,980 --> 02:28:09,690
about this Yeah, I don't
remember this. Yeah. And and he

2453
02:28:09,930 --> 02:28:14,790
he said he hated it so much. He
was so disgusted by what the

2454
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:18,690
things they wanted him to do. He
quit and he gave all his shares

2455
02:28:18,690 --> 02:28:20,700
back because they've given

2456
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:23,190
that shares it should yeah, I
also

2457
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:27,060
kind of said dude, and he does
not like those guys so when you

2458
02:28:27,060 --> 02:28:27,930
don't like those guys,

2459
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:30,960
you're pretty Mikey me keep the
shares. Well,

2460
02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:33,810
now he's a man of principle.
It's

2461
02:28:33,810 --> 02:28:37,590
87. But he doesn't need the
money. So he did get

2462
02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:41,310
asked on to a roundtable in New
York a roundtable discussion on

2463
02:28:41,340 --> 02:28:47,430
I'd never even heard of this
outfit. R N N. The regional news

2464
02:28:47,430 --> 02:28:51,150
network. It's Wow, this is
getting this is getting tons of

2465
02:28:51,150 --> 02:28:57,120
Russian. Now. It's actually if
you look at see I have it here

2466
02:28:57,120 --> 02:29:04,440
somewhere. RNN is it's a little
outfit that owns eight local

2467
02:29:04,440 --> 02:29:07,830
stations around the New York.
The Upstate New York New York

2468
02:29:07,950 --> 02:29:11,550
upstate area. I mean, it's it's
really it's, it's I think it's

2469
02:29:11,550 --> 02:29:12,420
unworthy.

2470
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:16,020
But well, they have a nice
building.

2471
02:29:16,710 --> 02:29:19,110
Oh, beautiful building half in
the water there and everything.

2472
02:29:19,140 --> 02:29:23,760
Yeah. Here so they had dawn on
for about 20 minutes talking

2473
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:28,680
about the the rectal feeding
torture report. And I thought

2474
02:29:29,010 --> 02:29:32,610
thought is part of what he said
was funny and clip worthy here

2475
02:29:32,610 --> 02:29:34,710
on the best podcast in the
universe.

2476
02:29:34,710 --> 02:29:39,930
When you go through the report.
We outsourced to two shrinks

2477
02:29:39,930 --> 02:29:42,150
who've never done an
interrogation forgive. They

2478
02:29:42,150 --> 02:29:45,330
don't speak Farsi. They don't
know anything about al Qaeda.

2479
02:29:45,690 --> 02:29:48,480
And by the way, Don has his
great way of smiling at someone

2480
02:29:48,480 --> 02:29:51,600
when they say these horrible
things. Yeah, I've noticed this.

2481
02:29:51,630 --> 02:29:54,270
It's something he does once
he'll be really smiling like

2482
02:29:54,270 --> 02:29:57,510
he's ready to burst out laughing
while you it's a trick. He's

2483
02:29:57,510 --> 02:30:00,810
doing something very specific.
You have to watch this he'll

2484
02:30:00,810 --> 02:30:03,180
just be smiling from ear to ear
while you're saying these

2485
02:30:03,180 --> 02:30:06,360
horrible things about torture.
And I don't know why but it's

2486
02:30:06,360 --> 02:30:09,000
something there's there's got to
be some tactic in here that we

2487
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:09,750
don't know about.

2488
02:30:10,049 --> 02:30:13,109
And we're paying him $81 million
of taxpayer money with a

2489
02:30:13,109 --> 02:30:17,309
contract. For part of my two
Yahoo's I don't even know the

2490
02:30:17,309 --> 02:30:21,389
first thing about it. And we're
letting them figure out where

2491
02:30:21,389 --> 02:30:24,569
the line is. I mean, you spent a
lot of years in government

2492
02:30:24,569 --> 02:30:28,469
service a lot of years this CIA,
how do we get to the point where

2493
02:30:28,499 --> 02:30:31,739
outsourcing the people who I
don't think that'd be authority

2494
02:30:31,739 --> 02:30:34,019
and make these decisions, and
then we have to defend it?

2495
02:30:34,350 --> 02:30:37,110
Well, we're we get into that
business when we're asked to do

2496
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:41,250
things, which is basically not
what we signed up to do. We did

2497
02:30:41,250 --> 02:30:45,780
not sign up to be jail keepers
and interrogators. We were asked

2498
02:30:45,780 --> 02:30:48,990
by JFK to murder Castro. And we
weren't very good at

2499
02:30:48,990 --> 02:30:54,150
assassinating, I was involved in
the, in the hearings in 1975.

2500
02:30:54,180 --> 02:30:57,000
Church Committee, and, you know,
we made eight attempts to get

2501
02:30:57,000 --> 02:31:00,120
Castro and failed in all of
them. So we're not very good

2502
02:31:00,120 --> 02:31:03,540
assassins, or we weren't, and
we're lousy tortures. And I'm

2503
02:31:03,540 --> 02:31:08,490
glad to say that it's true in
both cases. And it's just I used

2504
02:31:08,490 --> 02:31:12,240
to think that the best thing I
had going for me as a CIA

2505
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:16,080
officer was the fact that I was
an American. And the fact that

2506
02:31:16,440 --> 02:31:20,190
we did not torture our people,
everybody knew the Soviets did.

2507
02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:24,780
And that was a huge difference.
I now have a very close friend

2508
02:31:24,780 --> 02:31:28,680
who has dual citizenship. She's
an Arabic specialist. And when

2509
02:31:28,680 --> 02:31:32,460
she goes into into the Middle
East, the closest guarded secret

2510
02:31:32,460 --> 02:31:35,970
she has is that she's American.
And she goes by her French

2511
02:31:36,180 --> 02:31:40,800
citizenship. And we've done that
to ourselves. And I think we

2512
02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:44,460
need to stop it. I hope that
this will become an issue in the

2513
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:49,680
in the election. I think Obama
knows that we need an effective

2514
02:31:49,710 --> 02:31:54,540
CIA. So he's not throwing the
whole agency under the bus.

2515
02:31:54,540 --> 02:31:57,870
There's the bus he trusts
Brennan, and I thought Brennan

2516
02:31:57,960 --> 02:32:01,140
tried to do a good job the other
day and when he said it is

2517
02:32:01,170 --> 02:32:07,710
unknowable, whether or not these
EITS really lead us to capture

2518
02:32:07,860 --> 02:32:10,890
Osama bin Laden and I think I
think that's a pretty honorable

2519
02:32:10,890 --> 02:32:12,120
station and he's

2520
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:13,560
still a company man

2521
02:32:15,300 --> 02:32:18,150
Don Yeah, yeah, well of course

2522
02:32:18,180 --> 02:32:20,700
and I liked the fact that he was
you know, when it comes to

2523
02:32:20,700 --> 02:32:24,990
killing people and torture we
just suck we're not good at

2524
02:32:24,990 --> 02:32:28,890
assassinations are pretty good
with drones Well, he didn't say

2525
02:32:28,890 --> 02:32:30,990
that we weren't any good with
that. And by the way, I don't

2526
02:32:30,990 --> 02:32:34,530
think we are we for how many how
many real terrorists who are

2527
02:32:34,530 --> 02:32:38,850
really coming over here to
really attack us are we taking

2528
02:32:38,850 --> 02:32:43,770
out compared to the number of
citizens I'm sorry? Possible

2529
02:32:43,770 --> 02:32:44,700
militants?

2530
02:32:46,350 --> 02:32:48,030
Come on on Yeah,

2531
02:32:48,750 --> 02:32:49,620
we're horrible but

2532
02:32:49,620 --> 02:32:52,740
isn't that the idea to blow
people up just because we like

2533
02:32:52,740 --> 02:32:53,520
blowing stuff up

2534
02:32:53,580 --> 02:32:56,790
as horrible it's not it's not
really not even funny. Really?

2535
02:32:57,390 --> 02:32:58,980
It's it's pathetic

2536
02:33:01,980 --> 02:33:05,280
right Well, that was
interesting. Oh, it's

2537
02:33:05,280 --> 02:33:09,630
interesting that you got that
clip at all. Yeah. How did you

2538
02:33:09,630 --> 02:33:10,920
how did you get that clip?

2539
02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:16,800
It showed up in my news feed he
didn't tell me about it then all

2540
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:19,620
sudden the video showed up I'm
the I search for stuff all the

2541
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:20,100
time.

2542
02:33:20,700 --> 02:33:23,850
I'm sure he didn't have any I
just happen to have a news feed

2543
02:33:23,850 --> 02:33:25,830
that's got some keywords

2544
02:33:25,980 --> 02:33:28,800
Yeah, I search all kinds of
stuff I did find someone sent me

2545
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:33,330
this article talking about these
when you think of these of the

2546
02:33:33,330 --> 02:33:37,320
torture the rectal feeding and
then all and all this business

2547
02:33:37,320 --> 02:33:39,840
and the rendition flights, you
like

2548
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:40,320
Hamas?

2549
02:33:42,630 --> 02:33:45,330
Exactly, Jake, I'm not a doctor
and neither are you.

2550
02:33:45,359 --> 02:33:49,409
Dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor, not a
diplomat. And I think about you

2551
02:33:49,409 --> 02:33:54,449
know, who's being rendition away
to go into these secret camps

2552
02:33:54,449 --> 02:33:58,499
and basements would be tortured.
If you don't really think

2553
02:33:58,499 --> 02:34:07,769
immediately about just some guy
from Canada who was on his way

2554
02:34:07,769 --> 02:34:12,719
home from a family trip abroad
stops at JFK. I'd never heard

2555
02:34:12,719 --> 02:34:16,649
this story before. And had you
heard about this?

2556
02:34:16,890 --> 02:34:19,410
No, no, I think I have but play

2557
02:34:20,190 --> 02:34:27,480
No, I don't have a clip. It's a
it's a guy's name is what he had

2558
02:34:27,480 --> 02:34:31,380
while he has a very unfortunate
name Maha RR have the full of

2559
02:34:31,380 --> 02:34:37,380
photos Canadian. And he lands in
JFK. And the He is literally

2560
02:34:37,380 --> 02:34:43,980
seized by the CIA thrown onto a
jet rendered out through Bangor,

2561
02:34:43,980 --> 02:34:47,340
Maine, and was gone for 10
months.

2562
02:34:48,480 --> 02:34:51,840
Danger. The Canadian government
was bitching about Yeah,

2563
02:34:51,840 --> 02:34:55,830
and it was tortured. He said one
time they use the question

2564
02:34:55,830 --> 02:34:58,020
prisoners for two hours then put
them in a waiting room so they

2565
02:34:58,020 --> 02:35:00,330
can hear other screaming then
bring them back to Continue

2566
02:35:00,330 --> 02:35:04,020
interrogation of electrical
cable two inches thick hit me

2567
02:35:04,020 --> 02:35:07,530
with it everywhere in my body
mostly aimed from my palm

2568
02:35:07,530 --> 02:35:11,790
sometimes miss Hit my wrists
struck me on my hips lower back,

2569
02:35:11,910 --> 02:35:14,910
constantly threatening me with
with metal chair tire

2570
02:35:15,690 --> 02:35:19,080
is the interrogation you know,
we can debate what the meaning

2571
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:20,280
of torture is.

2572
02:35:22,170 --> 02:35:26,100
Oh man, but you never think it's
just some Canadian dude. Like

2573
02:35:26,100 --> 02:35:26,940
Wait a minute,

2574
02:35:26,970 --> 02:35:29,520
Canada. Hey, stay home next
year.

2575
02:35:30,300 --> 02:35:34,560
Just some Canadian dude. That's
horrible. This is horrible.

2576
02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:39,840
It's okay, they're all in on it.
Everybody thinks it's great,

2577
02:35:40,380 --> 02:35:42,900
I guess. All right, I

2578
02:35:43,530 --> 02:35:46,890
got an interesting little side
thing here. Did you play this

2579
02:35:46,890 --> 02:35:49,740
Snowden in Germany? I didn't
know any of this was going on.

2580
02:35:51,060 --> 02:35:54,180
Now when Edward Snowden revealed
what America was up to spying on

2581
02:35:54,180 --> 02:35:58,050
civilians around the world, it
came at a cost to his safety and

2582
02:35:58,050 --> 02:36:01,830
also his own citizenship but
with it has come incredible

2583
02:36:01,980 --> 02:36:05,670
popularity with posters, music
and even art devoted to him.

2584
02:36:05,850 --> 02:36:10,230
Some even describe him as a new
pop icon of our times you got

2585
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:12,750
peachskin off travel to Germany
where the persecuted

2586
02:36:12,750 --> 02:36:19,140
whistleblower has obtained quite
a fan base despised especially

2587
02:36:19,140 --> 02:36:22,470
Muslims for mismanaging money.
Edward Snowden is

2588
02:36:22,470 --> 02:36:25,170
keen that everyone knows
becoming a celebrity was the

2589
02:36:25,170 --> 02:36:28,740
last thing he was aiming for.
Whether he likes it or not. He's

2590
02:36:28,740 --> 02:36:32,940
now famous, and in Germany has a
lot of fans. One artist

2591
02:36:32,940 --> 02:36:35,970
symbolically renamed a street in
Berlin in dedication to the

2592
02:36:35,970 --> 02:36:39,660
whistleblower, in another event
inspired by his revelations, and

2593
02:36:39,660 --> 02:36:43,080
NSA in the house message was
projected onto the side of the

2594
02:36:43,080 --> 02:36:49,350
US Embassy, he is a hero. I know
this, I know this is I know this

2595
02:36:49,350 --> 02:36:50,760
is happening. I didn't

2596
02:36:50,760 --> 02:36:54,150
know this was going on. And I
want to put a commentary for

2597
02:36:54,150 --> 02:36:59,100
there. We have a lot of
Deutschland listeners. And I

2598
02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:01,680
would like to get one of these
posters, they there's two kinds.

2599
02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:03,960
There's the bigger one, and
there's a small one, they stick

2600
02:37:03,960 --> 02:37:07,410
on the on poles. I wouldn't mind
having either one, the small one

2601
02:37:07,410 --> 02:37:10,110
looks like a sticker. I think
the big one is actually a real

2602
02:37:10,110 --> 02:37:13,530
poster. I want to get one. And
this is big as a collectible.

2603
02:37:13,740 --> 02:37:18,750
I agree. This is really big.
This is Berlin, mainly, Berlin

2604
02:37:18,750 --> 02:37:23,280
has become the center of freedom
fighters have come of course

2605
02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:25,980
completely misguided about
Berlin being the place you want

2606
02:37:25,980 --> 02:37:29,520
to be. In fact, it's the place
where the NSA really wants you

2607
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:34,830
to be. Yeah. It's our main
honeypot city. It's a main hub

2608
02:37:34,860 --> 02:37:39,000
of activity. It's exactly where
you want it to be.

2609
02:37:40,470 --> 02:37:44,340
EarLens guy has always had this
magical aspy a lot of cities do

2610
02:37:44,340 --> 02:37:49,620
Paris. Madrid to some extent but
but Berlin has always even

2611
02:37:49,620 --> 02:37:54,870
though when it was, you know,
busted up by the powers that be

2612
02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:57,630
Germany in World War Two, it
revitalized itself. And if you

2613
02:37:57,630 --> 02:37:59,040
go there's a very lively

2614
02:37:59,550 --> 02:38:02,820
I think I want to go I want to
go check it out a bit. I want to

2615
02:38:02,820 --> 02:38:05,310
see. Well, I've been of course,
I've been to Berlin, but I

2616
02:38:05,310 --> 02:38:07,170
haven't been since the Snowden
revelations.

2617
02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:08,850
No. Oh, yeah. You should go.

2618
02:38:08,880 --> 02:38:10,560
I'd love to go see what's going
on.

2619
02:38:11,070 --> 02:38:12,450
Do a podcast from there.

2620
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:15,990
It'd be Well, a couple maybe
there's a lot of people. Well,

2621
02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:19,380
of course, this is also where
Poydras and where I heard

2622
02:38:19,380 --> 02:38:24,330
someone say kwatra. Watch for I
swear to God. So what Laura

2623
02:38:24,330 --> 02:38:26,850
portra. Maybe we're not saying
it right. I don't know.

2624
02:38:26,940 --> 02:38:31,410
No baby when she's sitting there
in front of Amy Goodman. And Amy

2625
02:38:31,410 --> 02:38:34,740
Goodman says Laura Poitras, it's
not quite true. He just sits

2626
02:38:34,740 --> 02:38:37,830
there and doesn't say no, no,
no, everyone has Poitras. She

2627
02:38:37,830 --> 02:38:41,220
didn't say anything in the pre
meeting. Interview. It seems

2628
02:38:41,220 --> 02:38:42,450
that that's her name. Hundreds.

2629
02:38:42,480 --> 02:38:46,050
I want to keep it portra and
it's like Tim Collins. You put

2630
02:38:46,050 --> 02:38:52,500
all their point drop what tra
kwatra kwatra. The Apple bomb is

2631
02:38:52,500 --> 02:38:59,190
their apple sauce. The tour man.
What's her name? Snowden his

2632
02:38:59,190 --> 02:39:03,150
former girlfriend the big cute
one. Who was Assange? His former

2633
02:39:03,150 --> 02:39:03,870
girlfriend?

2634
02:39:04,740 --> 02:39:07,920
Oh, they do not the stripper?
No, not the stripper.

2635
02:39:07,950 --> 02:39:10,200
The stripper is supposed to be
in Moscow with him now.

2636
02:39:10,230 --> 02:39:10,830
Whatever.

2637
02:39:11,550 --> 02:39:13,140
I think I've heard that too.

2638
02:39:13,170 --> 02:39:16,380
He's also missing some teeth on
the right. I saw the last video

2639
02:39:16,380 --> 02:39:17,790
he did. Which was

2640
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:18,990
missing teeth. Now

2641
02:39:19,050 --> 02:39:22,680
on the right hand side. Yeah,
it's always a Google Hangout.

2642
02:39:22,800 --> 02:39:23,550
The right hand

2643
02:39:23,550 --> 02:39:27,600
side of his face. Yeah. So the
left hand side would be a left

2644
02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:31,620
hook the left or blankets on the
right hand side of his face.

2645
02:39:31,770 --> 02:39:35,580
That would be a left hook.
Probably delivered by some

2646
02:39:35,580 --> 02:39:36,180
bruiser.

2647
02:39:36,210 --> 02:39:39,630
Well, I've never really paid
attention or I'd have never seen

2648
02:39:39,630 --> 02:39:42,330
a most of the time. I guess
we've always seen his face

2649
02:39:42,330 --> 02:39:45,930
mainly left profile, which is
why I've always seen the broken

2650
02:39:46,110 --> 02:39:50,220
nose guard on the glasses. When
he wears the last one while he

2651
02:39:50,220 --> 02:39:53,700
only wears the glasses. When
he's betting or prop when he's

2652
02:39:53,700 --> 02:39:56,850
being Snowden when he's being
the guy. The Snowden the brand.

2653
02:39:56,850 --> 02:39:58,710
Hey, you never know when he's
out on the street in Moscow.

2654
02:39:58,710 --> 02:40:00,420
He's not brands noted.

2655
02:40:00,900 --> 02:40:03,180
I wonder if he's learned Russian
by now it seems that he should

2656
02:40:03,180 --> 02:40:06,270
have I don't know if he's
already fluent the language when

2657
02:40:06,270 --> 02:40:09,810
you're there that long. It may
not be that easy to learn that

2658
02:40:09,810 --> 02:40:12,960
anyone can learn any language if
you're stuck there. Oh.

2659
02:40:15,509 --> 02:40:18,479
See, I have some things from
Bamford about Germany. I don't

2660
02:40:18,479 --> 02:40:20,249
want to play that. I think it's
interesting, really.

2661
02:40:20,819 --> 02:40:23,699
I think the most interesting
thing one of the more

2662
02:40:23,699 --> 02:40:26,339
interesting thing is here's the
cop killer run down play that.

2663
02:40:26,639 --> 02:40:27,959
Yeah, this is New York.

2664
02:40:28,079 --> 02:40:31,589
Now to New York police officers
have been shot dead in their

2665
02:40:31,589 --> 02:40:35,369
patrol car and what appears to
be vengeful executions, the

2666
02:40:35,369 --> 02:40:39,509
officers were ambushed ish and
shot at point blank range. The

2667
02:40:39,509 --> 02:40:42,659
gunman later committed suicide
by turning that weapon on

2668
02:40:42,659 --> 02:40:45,869
himself. He made threats and
social media to kill police

2669
02:40:45,869 --> 02:40:49,289
officers. Just hours before the
shooting in response to the

2670
02:40:49,289 --> 02:40:51,719
deaths of Michael Brown and Eric
Garner.

2671
02:40:51,869 --> 02:40:58,049
I don't think I can recall a
time when some guy who has

2672
02:40:58,469 --> 02:41:03,539
committed acts of violence
including death, but has not

2673
02:41:03,539 --> 02:41:06,239
killed himself while they always
wind up killing themselves.

2674
02:41:06,960 --> 02:41:08,220
Let's find that unusual.

2675
02:41:08,310 --> 02:41:12,000
It's never the guy is taken
alive. There's always killing

2676
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:16,140
himself. Oh, well. You're in a
you're in a cabin. You've been

2677
02:41:16,140 --> 02:41:19,950
running from the cops for you
get you get burned to death. But

2678
02:41:19,950 --> 02:41:21,720
he killed himself in the flames.
Yeah. So

2679
02:41:21,720 --> 02:41:24,930
you never talked to the guy.
Yeah. Whatever the case is, if

2680
02:41:24,930 --> 02:41:28,710
this is true, which we assume
that at least the dead policemen

2681
02:41:28,710 --> 02:41:32,400
are true. Yeah. Is that the
story goes? Yeah, it's Sharpton.

2682
02:41:32,400 --> 02:41:33,510
He should be arrested.

2683
02:41:33,539 --> 02:41:35,189
But funny. You say that? No, no,
he's

2684
02:41:35,190 --> 02:41:37,230
actually working in the White
House.

2685
02:41:37,350 --> 02:41:41,580
Funny you say that? So we have a
huge practice going on now

2686
02:41:41,580 --> 02:41:46,440
between the the PBA which is the
pretty much the

2687
02:41:46,470 --> 02:41:48,270
national Bowlers Association.
Yeah.

2688
02:41:48,810 --> 02:41:53,100
policemen's Benevolent
Association. Oh, and the the

2689
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:57,960
mayor of New York Bill DeBlasio.
And literally saying de Blasio

2690
02:41:57,960 --> 02:42:03,540
and Sharpton have blood on their
hands blood on their hands

2691
02:42:03,540 --> 02:42:09,720
they're saying and I'm being too
and the end the police the mayor

2692
02:42:09,720 --> 02:42:12,990
came out and did a some speech
the police turn their backs on

2693
02:42:12,990 --> 02:42:16,290
him this is not a good thing.
This is this is not how the

2694
02:42:16,290 --> 02:42:21,660
mayor and the police usually
interact and this is this is

2695
02:42:21,660 --> 02:42:25,470
problematic if you want you want
some problems with policemen in

2696
02:42:25,470 --> 02:42:27,060
the New York cops Chicago

2697
02:42:27,630 --> 02:42:28,590
oh my god do

2698
02:42:28,590 --> 02:42:32,460
not this is not this is not the
guys you want to have against

2699
02:42:32,460 --> 02:42:36,300
you know this is not the guys
you want who are saying hey you

2700
02:42:36,300 --> 02:42:38,220
know what? Why don't we just do
everything by the book?

2701
02:42:39,210 --> 02:42:41,400
No, definitely not. You don't
want that your

2702
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:45,330
city is going to fall apart
pretty quickly. And and I agree

2703
02:42:45,330 --> 02:42:50,880
that Sharpton of all people
Sharpton being an advisor now to

2704
02:42:50,880 --> 02:42:55,470
the White House consistently is
troublesome man. I mean, this

2705
02:42:55,470 --> 02:42:59,970
guy I was in New York in the in
the 80s and we had the Tijuana

2706
02:42:59,970 --> 02:43:04,740
Brawley case and its Sharpton
was just such an It's so

2707
02:43:04,740 --> 02:43:08,880
annoying. And of course, that
that turned out to be not true.

2708
02:43:08,910 --> 02:43:11,610
And you know, people just don't
people are stupid. They don't

2709
02:43:11,610 --> 02:43:17,250
learn from history. This guy is
a charlatan. And there's

2710
02:43:17,250 --> 02:43:19,080
Luckily, there's a lot of
families who were saying, hey,

2711
02:43:19,110 --> 02:43:22,620
yeah, man, you don't speak for
us go away. Some of them are

2712
02:43:22,620 --> 02:43:25,140
doing that finally, but then
that doesn't really it gets a

2713
02:43:25,140 --> 02:43:26,820
little bit of reporting not much
now.

2714
02:43:29,190 --> 02:43:34,410
Like I said, the Obama
administration is fairly stupid.

2715
02:43:35,070 --> 02:43:41,400
And subject to bullshit artists.
Yeah. And I would go back to the

2716
02:43:41,400 --> 02:43:47,400
CTO CEO, whatever that guy's
title was Qudra who says skip

2717
02:43:47,400 --> 02:43:50,520
logic was some sort of thing and
people were out there speaking

2718
02:43:50,520 --> 02:43:54,480
COBOL and whatever. He's just
sound like a moron. He doesn't

2719
02:43:54,480 --> 02:43:58,890
know anything. Oh, no, it really
weird. Logic, logic.

2720
02:44:00,600 --> 02:44:04,290
A J Johnson's last thing I got
for us. Jay Johnson is a

2721
02:44:04,350 --> 02:44:10,050
replacement for leucaena. Paula
Tano. Yeah, did you get Joe?

2722
02:44:10,320 --> 02:44:11,580
It's John.

2723
02:44:12,450 --> 02:44:16,380
It's not J just that you
pronounce it? J? No. Yeah,

2724
02:44:16,410 --> 02:44:22,530
it's like Dinesh like dash j. J.
J. J. Johnson. J. Yes. Mr.

2725
02:44:22,530 --> 02:44:29,310
Secretary Johnson. There you go.
Now, we've got a lot of how do

2726
02:44:29,310 --> 02:44:34,920
you say COVID undocumented
citizens? Yeah, here in Texas. I

2727
02:44:34,920 --> 02:44:36,600
know. I'm sure several.

2728
02:44:37,350 --> 02:44:39,840
Yeah, I think we have a few in
California you everywhere.

2729
02:44:40,500 --> 02:44:45,540
And now I have a personal I have
personal feelings about what's

2730
02:44:45,540 --> 02:44:49,800
going on how this works. And
what is unacceptable to me is

2731
02:44:49,800 --> 02:44:53,940
the general statement. Our
immigration system is broken.

2732
02:44:54,360 --> 02:44:58,530
You know, it's like, fuck you.
But that's not Don't say that.

2733
02:44:58,620 --> 02:45:01,500
It's not broken. It's become
bureaucratic has become

2734
02:45:01,530 --> 02:45:03,870
unaffordable, and it's become
can

2735
02:45:03,870 --> 02:45:07,380
non does hasn't been enforced.
It's where our laws on the books

2736
02:45:07,380 --> 02:45:08,430
are not enforcing

2737
02:45:08,970 --> 02:45:14,100
that, but I'll leave that for
what it is. That it should be,

2738
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:19,080
it should not cost $7,000 per
person just to become legal in

2739
02:45:19,080 --> 02:45:22,170
America. It just shouldn't. This
just makes no sense. It's never

2740
02:45:22,170 --> 02:45:25,800
been that way. And it's all
since this went from the State

2741
02:45:25,800 --> 02:45:30,000
Department, to the Department of
Homeland Security, these this is

2742
02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:33,690
a morass of bullcrap it needs to
stop, that whole department

2743
02:45:33,690 --> 02:45:38,310
needs to go away. It's crazy.
And then you get so now the idea

2744
02:45:38,310 --> 02:45:42,450
is, if you because people are so
confused, there was no executive

2745
02:45:42,480 --> 02:45:46,560
order. The only thing that is
being applied is discretion,

2746
02:45:47,070 --> 02:45:50,310
which any agency can apply
discretion on who they are going

2747
02:45:50,310 --> 02:45:55,530
to go after and deport. And it's
felons, not families. If you

2748
02:45:55,530 --> 02:45:58,410
remember, this is the little,
the little Montra that they put

2749
02:45:58,410 --> 02:46:04,290
in felons, not families. But the
Mexican population, who I that I

2750
02:46:04,290 --> 02:46:08,700
know and who I believe are
probably undocumented here. They

2751
02:46:08,700 --> 02:46:12,630
are afraid of this guy saying
this from my

2752
02:46:12,630 --> 02:46:17,250
homeland security perspective.
We want to encourage people who

2753
02:46:17,250 --> 02:46:21,120
are in fact, not removal
priorities, and have not been

2754
02:46:21,120 --> 02:46:24,060
for years. These are people who
are just simply not going to be

2755
02:46:24,060 --> 02:46:27,990
deported. Because they've been
here for years. We don't have

2756
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:31,050
the resources and they become
integrated members of society.

2757
02:46:31,410 --> 02:46:34,440
And if they're not removal
priorities, ie they're not

2758
02:46:34,440 --> 02:46:38,610
criminals. I want them I want to
know who they are. I want them

2759
02:46:38,610 --> 02:46:42,570
to come out of the shadows. And
so we're offering people

2760
02:46:42,570 --> 02:46:45,600
consistent with our legal
authority, the opportunity to

2761
02:46:45,600 --> 02:46:49,440
come out of the shadows, submit
to a background check and be

2762
02:46:49,440 --> 02:46:49,800
held

2763
02:46:49,800 --> 02:46:52,980
accountable. Oh, yeah. Right
away, sir.

2764
02:46:53,550 --> 02:46:57,420
No, any any illegal immigrant
that happens to be here for

2765
02:46:57,420 --> 02:47:01,980
years? knows the ropes and the
rope?

2766
02:47:02,760 --> 02:47:07,860
Nobody. Nobody is gonna go. Oh,
yeah. No, this is a great idea.

2767
02:47:07,890 --> 02:47:08,850
Good. Finally.

2768
02:47:08,880 --> 02:47:12,360
Oh, yeah. They're asking me to
come out of the shadows, and put

2769
02:47:12,360 --> 02:47:13,830
my name on the list.

2770
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:19,770
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, this is not going to happen.

2771
02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:23,220
Oh, I mean, I mean, Hitler's
Germany. I can I can now change

2772
02:47:23,220 --> 02:47:25,020
my name back to Rabinowitz

2773
02:47:25,050 --> 02:47:31,680
you're you're not a what are
they priority? Aha. People are

2774
02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:35,430
so afraid now because they're
that's the now they're really

2775
02:47:35,430 --> 02:47:39,270
quivering. No one even trust
that no one trust any in any of

2776
02:47:39,270 --> 02:47:39,720
this.

2777
02:47:40,110 --> 02:47:42,150
That is not You're not stupid.

2778
02:47:43,290 --> 02:47:45,810
Yeah, but it's people are going
back to Mexico. They're just

2779
02:47:45,810 --> 02:47:50,550
leaving. Screw this place. Well,
yeah, probably the right

2780
02:47:50,550 --> 02:47:51,090
attitude.

2781
02:47:51,330 --> 02:47:54,480
Is the Mexican economy ever
picked up? There would probably

2782
02:47:54,480 --> 02:47:57,390
be a lot more going back, but
it's been ruined.

2783
02:47:58,140 --> 02:48:02,820
indeedy. Alright, everybody,
well Have Yourself a Merry

2784
02:48:02,820 --> 02:48:10,680
Christmas a Happy Hanukkah, a
super Solstice, a kick in

2785
02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:16,740
Kwanzaa. What else do we have?
Festivus. Find Festivus. That's

2786
02:48:16,740 --> 02:48:19,950
right. You stay in in California
going to No, no, I'm

2787
02:48:19,950 --> 02:48:21,360
going up north Washington,

2788
02:48:21,360 --> 02:48:24,600
as you would say Wersching.
Worse, Washington, Washington.

2789
02:48:25,260 --> 02:48:27,270
So we have our Christmas
special. I hope you like it.

2790
02:48:27,270 --> 02:48:29,970
It's it was kind of us
deconstructing awesome. I'm not

2791
02:48:29,970 --> 02:48:31,260
sure. I don't know.

2792
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:34,830
It's good. I think it is good.
It's actually one of the best

2793
02:48:34,830 --> 02:48:36,450
shows we've ever done.

2794
02:48:37,020 --> 02:48:42,390
And you'll be hearing it in real
time if you want but also on the

2795
02:48:42,390 --> 02:48:46,620
podcast. We'll release it
simultaneously on Christmas Day.

2796
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:51,840
Right, and we'll be back Sunday
after after Christmas. Yes, we

2797
02:48:51,840 --> 02:48:54,600
will. And then again, we'll be
working on new years. It's

2798
02:48:54,600 --> 02:48:58,260
right. Also, that's right,
bringing could do another, you

2799
02:48:58,260 --> 02:48:59,070
know, no, no,

2800
02:48:59,070 --> 02:49:01,530
no. We're going to try and do
another outstanding product for

2801
02:49:01,530 --> 02:49:05,280
you. And I'll be coming to you
then from FEMA Region six where

2802
02:49:05,280 --> 02:49:07,200
I am today in the morning
everybody. My name is Adam

2803
02:49:07,200 --> 02:49:07,650
curry,

2804
02:49:07,920 --> 02:49:13,170
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where we have ant problems. And

2805
02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:15,360
yes, no problem. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

2806
02:49:15,390 --> 02:49:20,310
We will talk again. Well,
technically on Thursday, right

2807
02:49:20,310 --> 02:49:23,160
here on no agenda Falvey.

2808
02:49:23,850 --> 02:49:27,630
You will not receive a selfie so
long as you stand before me

2809
02:49:27,900 --> 02:49:33,090
because you're ridiculous.
First. Learn that your status

2810
02:49:33,090 --> 02:49:40,020
updates mean zero to nothing to
anyone. Just social network you

2811
02:49:40,020 --> 02:49:44,790
posted on worthless use your
mind creates new memories

2812
02:49:44,910 --> 02:49:52,110
interact. Don't just add you to
a library. Photographs. Okay.

2813
02:49:53,910 --> 02:49:56,730
Disappointing. Your generation
is

2814
02:50:03,870 --> 02:50:10,530
ISIS will follow them to the
gate.

2815
02:50:12,360 --> 02:50:19,920
ISIS Jake, I'm not a doctor and
neither are you. Dammit Jim, I'm

2816
02:50:19,920 --> 02:50:23,160
a doctor, not a diplomat Joe
Biden and thank you for taking

2817
02:50:23,160 --> 02:50:24,780
the time to listen to audios

2818
02:50:24,840 --> 02:50:32,790
mopho.org/n A