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And what got what did you use
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As plumb

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a plumber perfect. Adam curry
John C. Dvorak. Sunday July

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20 2014, time for your gizmo
nation media assassination

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episode six three. This is no
agenda creating colossal

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calculus from the South Austin
safe house and FEMA Region six

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here in the capital to drone
Star State in the morning

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from the more important FEMA
Region nine otherwise known as

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Northern Silicon Valley, I'm
John C. Dvorak Buzzkill.

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No is more important.

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I said, so,

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um, you know, I get so pissed
you do this move, you know, and

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you start on packing everything
and then I have this whole plan

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to divest of a lot of things
which is working out fine. So I

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have a lot of boxes that I'm
going to either keep closed and

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never open up again and get rid
of. Okay, now I have to open up

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every single one because I can't
find my instruments.

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Just reach down.

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It was bad when you do you
remember the giant nail clippers

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one of the one of our producer
kids made for us? Like, like,

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like 1212 inches long? Like a
huge nail clipper. Don't you

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remember that? No, I found that.
But my slide whistle. No.

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I find that you lost your slide
whistle and the end, my boy my

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bullhorn and like, are so big.
If you can't find that you can't

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find any and my orchestral
kazoo. Oh, the kazoo? Who played

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in the last show?

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No, no, I haven't played it. I
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since we've been here. Bad is
bad, as bad as bad.

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Anyway, well, it can happen you
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Now that you mentioned no idea
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probably with the kazoo.

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You'd think you'd keep all the
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in one

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box. Yes. And now I don't know
where it is. It's this

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guy. You did you use a felt tip
pen trick? Where you actually

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right on the outside?

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Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, then so
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knickknacks.

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These are important tools.

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You know, I thought it would be
in the box that's labeled to

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have it right here. Studio
photos, awards, etc.

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Well, that's an empty box.

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Nine photos. I have one award.
Remember one of our producers

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gave us an award.

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Oh, yes. I have that descend
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from the from the trophy store.
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store. Hey, you know, whatever
works. All these things are

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bullcrap. Anyway, you might as
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Well, it's finally happened.
John, wait,

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if you think you're gonna start
the show, I'm not gonna allow

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it. Not that I'm a dictator. We
have which show after show after

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show. I keep writing down. Oh,

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no, we're not gonna talk about
EBS. Which really you want to

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talk about it now right now? Can
we do that before?

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We'll skip it we'll skip it for
now. But I want to talk about it

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for the show's over.

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All right, I'll ask the human
resources in the chat room to

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remind us to talk about PBS and
NPR it's both I'm sure they will

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I can't remember what it was
about the I do it they will okay

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good good. Fine. Now you can go
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well I was gonna say that it's
finally happened what the media

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is certainly in the United
States has finally broken

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through to all levels of
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I don't know if the payoff I
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don't think the payoff is gonna
be good enough when they finally

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infiltrated the young minds the
children and now everybody knows

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all kids for the kids know I
love this kid

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Mickey just put a box in front
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does she does she put the box in
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towards you with the stick?

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Know where their toe where their
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bit but I don't think the I
don't think the instruments are

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in there. I do see other
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and a manual. I see a manual on
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you what the manual says does.

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I come?

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No, it's it's a it's a printout
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I can't was in handy. You should
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Oh, man. Well, I think we both
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have not spoken obviously since
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was okay. Yes, you just have a

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lot of for bat, you know, like
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I'm curious about contradictions
intros to your piece, whatever

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you're gonna say. And I have my
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which are, you know, pretty
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seems to me. Yeah. And what's
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talking about MH, yeah, we of
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downing of Malaysian flight 17.
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Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur as the
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worlds that base the three
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around me one, of course, is
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general as we know it, which is
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second one is, of course, the
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150 859 Dutch people so
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insight into the feelings there.
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government are or not taking.
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conspiratorial angle. And what I
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to really be into it, and I
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do it very well. But the it's
now it's just a little upsetting

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because of the waste of time is
how did it really happen? Who

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really did it? And that really,
in this case? I wish more people

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saw that doesn't matter. That's
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to figure it out. And I think
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people who are that are
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I think I have a pretty good
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place and what happened. But
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only thing that people are, are
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you look at the we actually
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dialectic of problem, reaction
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well, if you're gonna go in that
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another thing into the mix,
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I talked about a couple of shows
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people in front of an audience,
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something, and you take another
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something else, then you show a
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people who saw the print the,
they're predisposed to see

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something they just saw. So in
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hammering Putin, for one thing
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predisposed. Everybody's
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the public. And, of course, the
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this work the Newlands of the
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not just what you see, you see
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programmed to see. So
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exactly. And I don't think he's
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dialectic or anything fancier
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it's the the dialectic is
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That's the Nudelman. So you're
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at the at the overall issue
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essentially had a Ukraine a
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that the United States put a a
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Ukraine. And we have just like,
we have proof of what's the term

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Russian pro Russian separatists?
I have to get it right. pro

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Russian separatists, of course,
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had the Maidan and the
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going down we had our very own
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Boy, did we this is exactly what
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good on the promise to the
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it being the chokehold really
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corridor for Russian gas into
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underestimated. I think people
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this is. And of course I'm
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through pipelines, not gas you
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actually Miki mentioned to me
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going to be a lot of people new
people listening to the show,

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and they're going to tune in and
she's it's going to be for them.

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It's going to be The equivalent
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Enquirer all their life, and all
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Financial Times, and they're
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eyes are gonna turn back in
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I'm trying to give as much
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is was is 100% about control.
And the control, as we know, is

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for the United States, we want
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Russia, make them you know,
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that's the, you know, push all
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possible, not only be in control
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means we then really you we do
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certain extent, be gases. I
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really understand Johnny like,
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stove won't work. I don't think
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is it generates electricity,
there's a lot of things you

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really need this gas. And also
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recycled Euro, you know, you
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Russia, particularly Germany, as
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Netherlands is very interesting.
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partner is Russia. They have
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the Port of Rotterdam, all these
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big LNG for the liquefying gas
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the port of Rotterdam on ships,
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a processing plant. I mean, that
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biggest business in the
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shell has invested billions and
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good player and a good partner
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was this could not have been a
more perfect country to attack

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for a number of reasons, which
we'll get to. But what what was

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happening is, because this is a,
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and and the Kagan's and John
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people who took us into Iraq.
President Obama is not helpful.

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He's not do he doesn't know he
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game. Well, I think that's
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he's, he's not helping, he's
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He's not on the stage, but he's

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not even doing he doesn't know
his lines. And I don't think

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anyone's giving him lines they
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understand what to do. So we
needed to play it a different

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way. And I'm pretty sure if I
went back and listened over the

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past two months, we discussed
more than one saying they've got

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to light up something big
because this is getting no

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attention. Nobody cares. Nobody
cares. So you killed some people

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in Ukraine whatever. And they
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and now we have the attention of
the world stage and and I have a

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number of clips to back up an
overall theory and while we're

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doing this, I would also like to
explain what happened but let me

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get into get through a couple
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bodies from the other Malaysian
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I like that law took the other
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Ukraine and then blew it up to
cover what do you think in

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industry the insurance companies
wouldn't get you know, get just

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basically cancel all the
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if this was even possible? Yeah.
And I mean, there's like a lot

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of there's a lot of these planes
are not the kind of thing you

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can do this with no.

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And, you know, yeah, we saw
passports with holes punched

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through them. Yeah, look, I have
traveled many times with my old

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passport and my new passport and
the old passport had a hole

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punched in it. So I can
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coming from and the passports
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cetera. But you know, with
aviation, accidents, disasters,

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a lot of weird things can
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seen plane crashes where people
walked away, but in fact, there

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was a member of the plane crash
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McEnroe's house up in upstate
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early days of CNN. Yeah, and
this so they just stayed on it

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live once they got up there and
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her seat in the middle of the
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so it's not like you know, all
the bodies should be ripped

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apart and smashed to bits you
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things. So these these theories

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I like I understand where
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think I think they're

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quite enjoyable.

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are enjoyable for sure. So now
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it didn't happen yet.

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What would be the point as to

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exactly well, it most definitely
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people Who are either directly
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degree of separation from, from
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on the on the flight? The main
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Putin ever want this to happen?
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anywhere, in any angle you look
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No, for no, he would never want
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and what he I believe, has been
trying. And he's just been he's

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been very smart. He's been
sitting quiet, like, look, we

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got the US there. You know,
they're making a big scene,

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they're killing people over
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definitely

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let's wait for him to get their
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just sitting back

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waiting for stuff to happen. And
they can accuse him all he

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wants. But now all of a sudden,
oops. Now we have people on

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Facebook are talking about it.
Now all of a sudden, it's

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important. And what is it about?
What is the what is the end

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result supposed to be? I think,
one clip and we're gonna play

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this one right off the bat. So
I'm gonna give you the punch

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line to start with. And we'll
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a lot of interesting people have
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of course, we want to keep this
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evening, which I think Charlie
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the afternoon for the Charlie
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this happened Thursday morning,
Hillary Clinton is clippity

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clop. We can actually play the
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that in a while. I'm so happy to
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He's sure it's not in the box.

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No, clippity clop is here in the
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message is clear. Clip.

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All right, and she just comes
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have cut this up into little
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think the entire thing is worthy
of listening. Because not only

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does she tell you what this
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what the ultimate solution
should be. But she even manages

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to work in a promotion for her
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And this number with this woman
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interview with Charlie Rose?

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As a matter of fact, I did.
Okay, let me go with the news of

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this day, a plane shot down over
eastern Ukraine. What questions

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would you be

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asked already? Mm hmm. Yeah.
What questions would you be

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asking if you were president at
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Well, the questions I'd be
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have shot it down? Who had the
equipment if Now remember,

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this is before we've even had
anyone on the ground, we already

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have the story. We know it's
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rebels have done it when you're
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who could have provided this
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which by the way, it's pretty
much like, you know, rebels in

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Syria have American weapons, but
that's beside the point. She

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says this, The story is set.
It's done. This script is rolled

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out and she's in

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on it. Of course, obviously, an
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I mean, it could have been a
fighter jet that shot it down.

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It could have been a terrorist
bomb. But no, it's obviously

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even though we've been given no
proof except for a YouTube video

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with two guys on the phone. And,
and a hazy shot between two

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trees of what looks like a
missile launcher with a missile

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missing. And we have proof by
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could have had the expertise to
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airlines are big targets. But by
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of Ukraine, they should have
been high. So it takes some, you

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know, some planning. And the
Ukrainian government has been

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quick to blame it on terrorists,
which is, you know, they're

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named for the Russian
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to be by the way,

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notice the subtle language. It's
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separatists. It's the Russian
insurgents. This. This is very

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good. He's very, very good. And
Charlie Rose doesn't bat an eye.

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Isn't that amazing? How she just
slipped that in? Yeah.

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It makes you wonder for never
played plucky playing and of

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Ukraine, they should have been
high. So it takes some, you

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know, some planning. And the
Ukrainian government has been

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quick to blame it on terrorists,
which is, you know, their name

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for the Russian insurgents. And
there does seem to be some

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growing awareness that it
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insurgents. Now how we determine
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forensics. But then, if there is
evidence pointing in that

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direction, the equipment had to
come from Russia. What more the

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Russians may or may not have
done we don't know. I read as I

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was walking in today to talk
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market has dropped there is a
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pay attention to that. This is a
common theme about the the oil,

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the Russian stock market has
dropped. This is hurting Russia

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very common theme amongst the
elite seal

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of concern that not only was a
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what this means about the
continuing conflict in eastern

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Ukraine and the role that Russia
is playing. So what does the

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United States do if there isn't
a clear indication and clear

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evidence that it was Russian
separatist and perhaps using

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weapons from Russia? Notice
Charlie Rose is now saying

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Russian separatists, he's going
back to the old script and now

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he's dropped the pro the pro
Russian separatists and by the

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way, if we had had real
Americans on this flight, not

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one you know, fifth have z some
50 percenter to you know, it

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would have been get get I got my
AK I got my AK my ar 15 We're

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gonna kill them fucking rescues
and Ukrainians going Putin gotta

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get him. Because we're we've
evolved as a slave species. We

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you just have to show one
American really being killed in

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America gets up and wants to go
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this is very carefully chosen
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I think that the first question
is, what does Europe do think

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the United States has been very
clear in both its criticism of

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Russia and Putin its support for
Poroshenko and the new Ukrainian

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government. And there has just
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that President Obama himself has
announced. As you know, the

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Europeans have tried to figure
out the best way forward. I was

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recently in Europe, a lot of
questions about whether or not

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Russia was really the aggressor.
Whether or not Putin was really

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dangerous. How

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are these silly Europeans? Don't
think no better? This is crazy.

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How could that be evaluated?
From my perspective, and I have

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the benefit of not being in the
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I'm a lizard

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I have the benefit of that's the
most telling sign right there.

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The benefit of being a lizard
person as well? No, I'm not in

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the government.

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If there is evidence linking
Russia to this, that should

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inspire the Europeans to do much
more on three counts one,

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toughen their own sanctions make
it very clear, there has to be a

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price to pay.

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This is indeed, one of the main
outcomes that has to take place.

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Because we want more control
over Europe. And when I say we,

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that is the the Yalies the Neo
cons, the Kagan's it's not the

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Obama administration. Right.
It's the people who really, I

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guess run things. Oil, big
money. So yes, we want more

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control over Europe. And, you
know, how do we get that

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number to immediately accelerate
efforts and announced they are

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doing so to find alternatives to
Gazprom? You know, Russia has

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not diversified its economy, it
is still largely dependent upon

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natural resources, principally
gas and oil. And thirdly, we're

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homeless. Just stop here for a
second. She says it right there.

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You must diversify from Gazprom.
Well, this is not so simple,

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unless, unless you have let me
see what is that little place?

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We had the Eurovision Song
Contest? Oh, yes. Baku,

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Azerbaijan, and which has what
do they have there? They got

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like lots of oil and gas. And
we've been putting pipelines in

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through what's the other place
with the Thai eating guy? Oh,

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yes, Georgia. Where were Hillary
Clinton before she left her post

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as Secretary of State placed a
coast guard ships off the coast

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of Georgia to protect the
pipeline, which goes right in

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the sea there. And of course,
that is a northern route coming

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in to Europe, which is
controlled by United States and

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to some extent, UK, oil and gas
interests, but gas predominantly

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did no way does it. supply
enough gas to fill all of all of

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Europe. So there's other
alternatives that are being

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built, but nothing is really in
place. You also need to know

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that Ukraine just auctioned off
in a IMF privatization scheme

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49% of the ownership of all of
its pipelines. I wonder who that

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goes to. And of course, we have
Chevron and Exxon actually also

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drilling in Ukraine. So we're
not there yet. But all the

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pieces are in place to diversify
and divest away from Gazprom.

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Do more in concert with us to
support the Ukrainians, there

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has to be more help on their
borders in order to prevent this

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porous border allowing Russians
to go back and forth and

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surgeons to do the same as your
border control means do more to

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help their military obtain
better equipment, better

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training. The Ukrainian military
under Poroshenko has been much

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more focused and more
successful, but nobody kids them

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If Russia really keeps weighing
in on behalf of the insurgents,

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there's a lot more that needs to
be done and to put Putin on

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notice that he has gone too far.
And we are not going to stand

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idly by put Putin on notice. So
the Europeans have to be the

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ones to take the lead on this.
It was a flight from Amsterdam,

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to koala lamb for over European
territory. There should be

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outrage in European capital.

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Interestingly enough, there
really isn't that much outrage

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in European capitals. And this
is big frustration in the

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Netherlands, John. Now, of
course, you know, I have unique

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insight to this, of course,
people have turned their, their

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Twitter and Facebook avatars and
icons to black. Oh, I kid you

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not all of the focus in the
Netherlands is now by the way,

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the prime minister had a chat
with Putin. Ruta Margarita, the

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Prime Minister of the
Netherlands. And he said, it was

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a very, very tough, very tough
conversation. But we both

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agreed, the primary thing we
need to do the number one thing

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we need to do is to make sure we
get the bodies out of there. So

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the entire world is now
certainly the Netherlands is

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being focused on It's an outrage
that people are just throwing

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these bodies in bags. And and
these aren't professionals. You

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know, this is not an
international thing. And so

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everyone's focused on that no
one is talking about, hey, wait

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a minute. What did Putin do that
we're going to kick his ass? And

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the whole Dutch Government is
having meetings behind closed

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doors? And yes, you know, we
have to be very, it's a

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sensitive situation. And of
course, that is because the

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Netherlands without Gazprom,
that could easily be, I don't

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know 35% of their GDP even more.
This is the Netherlands is

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beautiful target for this. And
so people are they don't know

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what to do. They don't know that
everyone is stuck. There's no

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national there's no national way
to call it and call for each

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one. Well, no outrage, but also
no official flags flying at half

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mast is no no official
statements like that, you know,

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the king and queen, they signed
the condolence register online,

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you know, it's bullshit. It's
all bullshit because they know

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they they're stuck between a
rock and a hard place. But now

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you see an entire country that
has been enslaved to such a

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degree that they're like, man,
whatever. There's even articles

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being written by famous
comedians is one comedian who

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writes an article in the Intel
so called intelligent newspaper.

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And he said, oh, boy, this is
such bullshit. No, all the

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famous Dutch people are tweeting
about how sad they are, fuck

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them. And see, no one's talking
about any real issues. It's just

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it's a quagmire of bullcrap with
no leadership, no direction, and

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it'll it'll just people just
fade away, and they won't talk

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about it anymore. So perfect.
And therefore action. If it

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comes to this, do you think that
tooten is, is willing to take

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more risks than ever before with
respect to the Ukraine, and

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00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:17,970
until Ukraine, and do you
believe that sanction will have

443
00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:19,800
the power to restrain him?

444
00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:23,580
I think Putin is pushing the
envelope as far as he thinks he

445
00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:29,910
can. I think he obviously has
annexed and occupied Crimea. He

446
00:28:29,910 --> 00:28:34,440
is willing to keep Ukraine
unstable in order to try to

447
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,830
intimidate the new Ukrainian
government to back off from

448
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:44,220
their approach to the EU. And I
think the only language he

449
00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:49,260
understands is one that is very
tough, very patient very clear.

450
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:53,880
The sanctions are an important
piece of that. And there is

451
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,870
evidence that they are having an
effect, but sanctions alone will

452
00:28:57,870 --> 00:29:01,980
not necessarily restrain him or
change his calculus. That's why

453
00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:06,000
Oh, calculus, I would like to
see the Europeans do what I urge

454
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,060
them to do. And I write about in
the book, going back to March

455
00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:13,230
2009, come up with an
alternative energy strategy that

456
00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:17,850
does not leave you to the mercy
of Putin. And Gazprom, hey, you

457
00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:20,790
know, they've made some steps
but not nearly enough. In my

458
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,470
estimation, that drug dealer

459
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:25,080
over there, man, he's given you
bad crack, you gotta come over

460
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,620
here and take the crack from me,
you know, I got the better drugs

461
00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:32,220
you don't want to kind of once
apply. Then, of course, the

462
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:34,860
final question, which should
Charlie's very good at, tell me

463
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:42,270
about the sexuality in your DNA?
Sorry. Okay. So it's very clear

464
00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:45,270
what this is about that is the
end game and how are we going to

465
00:29:45,270 --> 00:29:49,530
do it? How do we get control?
Well, we immediately had a call

466
00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:55,440
for an emergency session of the
United Nations Security Council,

467
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,790
which was called for by one of
the best speeches I've seen in a

468
00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:04,500
long long time from our boy Yes,
I'm sorry. Nudelman is boy Yes,

469
00:30:04,530 --> 00:30:10,770
the prime minister who is
dyslexic as he's reading his

470
00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:12,840
script instead of saying
bastards, I think he says

471
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,720
bastards. I'm not quite sure,
but it's it didn't come out

472
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,800
right. Let me express on behalf
of the Ukrainian government, my

473
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,810
deep condolences to those
innocent, who were killed by

474
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:28,920
Russian led terrorists, Russian
led terrorists. We ask all

475
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,390
respective governments to
participate in this

476
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:38,100
investigation and to support the
Ukrainian government to bring to

477
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:42,420
justice all these bastards
committed this international

478
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:48,600
crime. Bastards. Best dreads
thesis decrying against

479
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,260
humanity, crime against humanity
as these bangs his fist on the

480
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:55,740
desk. By the way, I cut out all
the pauses, the dramatic pauses

481
00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:57,900
this guy puts in was just I
couldn't I couldn't handle how

482
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,920
to cut them all out. All red
lines have been already crossed.

483
00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:05,790
I love that all red lines have
been already crossed. This is

484
00:31:05,790 --> 00:31:08,310
the deadline. This is the
deadline. That's a house track

485
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:12,120
in making right there. GX two,
where are you, man? This is the

486
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,490
deadline. What does that even
mean? Yeah.

487
00:31:14,879 --> 00:31:18,299
Doesn't mean anything is insane.
Yeah.

488
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:24,240
We ask our international
partners to call an emergency UN

489
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,820
Security Council meeting. And to
make everything we can to stop

490
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:35,250
this war, a war against Ukraine,
a war against Europe. And after

491
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,950
this terrorist shutdown and
Malaysian aircraft. This is the

492
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:44,280
war against the world. Ah, there
you go. It's the war against the

493
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,860
world. That's right. Okay. Then
we have President Obama who now

494
00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:52,410
whenever President Obama says
something, you gotta listen

495
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:56,340
very, very carefully. This guy,
whoever writes for him. As we've

496
00:31:56,340 --> 00:32:00,960
learned, nothing is left to
chance. Every single word every

497
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,720
syllable is very carefully
scripted. So we know exactly

498
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,230
what he can point back to later
on and said, See, I told you so.

499
00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:14,490
And three little quick clips
from his previous speech

500
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,090
evidence must not be tampered
with. So before anyone talks

501
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:21,180
about anything, he says evidence
must not be tampered with.

502
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,990
Meaning we're going to say the
evidence was tampered with.

503
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,630
Whenever someone tries to figure
out what really happened here.

504
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:31,440
Well, hey, evidence was tampered
with. I told you. So

505
00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:36,330
investigators need to access the
crash site, which means Hey, we

506
00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:38,850
won't have access, which of
course we don't. And the solemn

507
00:32:38,850 --> 00:32:41,670
task of returning those who were
lost on board the plane to their

508
00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:45,180
loved ones, needs to go forward
immediately. So that is the part

509
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:47,580
for the Netherlands. You see,
the script unfolds right here.

510
00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:51,780
This is the full book of what is
supposed to happen. The United

511
00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:54,030
States stands ready to provide
any assistance that is

512
00:32:54,030 --> 00:32:57,510
necessary. We've already offered
the support of the FBI and the

513
00:32:57,510 --> 00:33:02,100
National Transportation Safety
Board, which what is that? What

514
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:03,810
does the FBI have to do with it?

515
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,580
If this guy was got their nose
in these things, really do why

516
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:10,860
we're the ones that go in there
and screw it to tamper with the

517
00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:12,060
evidence is that because

518
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:16,530
people in the the Washington
still believes that the rest of

519
00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:19,350
the world thinks the FBI is
cool, and they get the gavel and

520
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:20,340
get their guy.

521
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,490
I don't know what the point of
it is,

522
00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:27,300
which has experience in working
with international partners on

523
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:31,260
these types of investigations.
They are on their way personnel

524
00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:35,310
from the FBI and the National
Transportation Safety Board. In

525
00:33:35,310 --> 00:33:37,830
the coming hours and days, I'll
continue to be in close contact

526
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:40,920
with leaders from around the
world. As we respond to this

527
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,880
catastrophe. Now pay attention.
Our immediate focus will be on

528
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,180
recovering those who were lost,
investigating exactly what

529
00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:51,450
happened and bring forward the
facts. Now here, here are the

530
00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:54,120
facts. And now here comes some
interesting language from the

531
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,210
President. want to point out
there will likely be

532
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,710
misinformation as well. I think
it's very important for folks to

533
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:08,490
sift through what is factually
based and what is simply

534
00:34:08,490 --> 00:34:13,320
speculation. Okay, folks need to
sift through what is factually

535
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:19,020
based ie what I tell you. And
what is misinformation. No one

536
00:34:19,050 --> 00:34:21,600
can deny the truth that is
revealed in the awful images

537
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,740
that we all have seen. Wow,
that's a good one. This is this

538
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:30,000
is one of the better ones. No
one can deny the truth that you

539
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:37,380
see in the pictures. Wow. Do you
do you get the same chills from

540
00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:41,190
that John or did you don't?
Because the truth no one can

541
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:43,350
deny it. The truth is

542
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:46,950
I didn't get shield from it.
It's just like listen to this

543
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:51,000
guy is just at the point where
it's just numb and numbing ly.

544
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,270
Here's

545
00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:54,660
the final line is and the eyes
of the world are on eastern

546
00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:58,500
Ukraine. And we are going to
make sure that the truth is out.

547
00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:00,840
What does that mean? We're going
to make sure The truth is out

548
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,140
like the getting the truth out.
We just saw the photos. No, the

549
00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:07,290
truth is out, like get out of
here truth. What does that mean?

550
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:10,980
I don't know what it is
everybody knows

551
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,880
now, based based upon what the
President here said and also,

552
00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:18,060
and I have it in the show notes
if anyone wants to watch it or

553
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:22,110
listen to it what Samantha Power
said, who is our ambassador to

554
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:24,600
the United Nations who of
course, as as predicted, had it

555
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,870
had an emergency session where
she she said the whole she had

556
00:35:27,870 --> 00:35:30,600
everything she had, it was an
essay 11 And it came from the

557
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,750
Russians, the killed children.
It's it's horrible. She was

558
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:37,050
choking back tears. It was a
fantastic performance. But I

559
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:38,100
would advise her

560
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,950
she was it was a fantastic
performance she read.

561
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:45,360
I would advise her to look up
once from her paper once in a

562
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,620
while. All you see is the top of
her head. This is stupid. It's

563
00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:53,700
no good. Now in the State
Department, right and this by

564
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,460
the way, Brian, the great. The
gay Crusader pointed this out to

565
00:35:56,460 --> 00:36:00,450
me. There's a new girl who I
don't know who she is. And but

566
00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:04,140
she's great. And she has a sexy
blue dress on and she got like

567
00:36:04,140 --> 00:36:07,980
dangly earrings and she got long
hair tied up in the back in like

568
00:36:08,010 --> 00:36:13,290
a horsehair ponytail deal. And
she and I don't know, I don't

569
00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:15,480
know where she's from. I
couldn't identify what

570
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,850
organization she's from. But she
she laid into Jen Psaki in and I

571
00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:23,340
think she's a new troublemaker
we have to keep our eye on.

572
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:27,150
Is it fair to say that the
United States, given the case

573
00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:31,230
that Ambassador Power laid out,
has at least reached a

574
00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:33,510
preliminary conclusion about
those matters?

575
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,390
I think there's a range of
information that's publicly

576
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:40,410
available, as is the case with
serious incidents like this,

577
00:36:40,410 --> 00:36:43,440
we'll let the official
conclusion be made. But

578
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,320
obviously, Ambassador Power
wouldn't have said that if there

579
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,460
wasn't a reasonable belief that
that was accurate information,

580
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:54,960
possible conflict of interest
that people might see when the

581
00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:58,980
eventual report comes out of how
this happened. The US government

582
00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:05,010
given Samantha Power statements
at the UN, is then the US the US

583
00:37:05,010 --> 00:37:07,860
government is then sending the
FBI to also be part of this

584
00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:13,860
investigation this report.
Couldn't it be difficult for for

585
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:18,990
the results of this report to
stick? As we're already hearing

586
00:37:18,990 --> 00:37:21,780
sort of a line from the US
government that they believe

587
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:24,600
it's Russia's fault than they
are? The government isn't

588
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,790
directly involved in this
investigation? That's not a

589
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:29,460
directly range of other nations?
The answer your question? Sure.

590
00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:33,090
I'm not exactly what either the
President or Ambassador Power

591
00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:37,650
said is exactly what they said.
They also both made clear that

592
00:37:37,650 --> 00:37:40,230
there's an investigation and
we're going to see through the

593
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:46,830
FBI participation, the FBI
clearly has a range of important

594
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,780
expertise.

595
00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:51,870
We've got a range of important
experts today. I

596
00:37:51,870 --> 00:37:56,010
can't say what Yeah, calculus
criminal investigations. I think

597
00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:56,280
that's

598
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,330
expertise that could they're
good at stacking the deck, we

599
00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:03,450
don't know could come in handy.
In this case, yes. Let's be

600
00:38:03,450 --> 00:38:07,440
offering. There'll be a range of
expertise entities that will

601
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,570
participate in the
investigation,

602
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,870
like guys who like plant guns on
people and stuff of a range of

603
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:16,410
expertise. All right, so this is
it's perfect. Now we have

604
00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:20,940
everything set up and the
narrative is these so we have

605
00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:23,910
these Russian insurgents, let's
just call this I want to just

606
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:27,330
call them Putin's guys thugs.
Let's just call them Putin

607
00:38:27,330 --> 00:38:32,490
thugs, who are killing people in
in East Ukraine. Because, you

608
00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:36,540
know, Putin hates everything and
and wants to shove his gas of

609
00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:40,980
everybody's as a horrible
horrible man. And then the idea

610
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:46,830
is, these bonehead drunk guys
shot a plane out of the sky.

611
00:38:47,790 --> 00:38:52,380
That's kind of the the narrative
and it's propagated perfectly by

612
00:38:52,380 --> 00:38:56,820
this woman, Julie, I off from
New Republic. Are you familiar

613
00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:57,300
with her?

614
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,930
I don't know her, but I saw her
talking. She somehow has gotten

615
00:39:00,930 --> 00:39:01,890
on the circuit. Yeah,

616
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,460
well, because it's new republic,
like a neocon right wing thing.

617
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:10,680
Never really has been it's it's
kind of funny politic. And I

618
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,250
can't give you a simple
definition. But it tends to be

619
00:39:15,390 --> 00:39:18,120
kind of old fashioned
conservative in a, in a kind of

620
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,060
a communist way. I thought
interesting is the best I can

621
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:21,420
do.

622
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,050
What's the short clip and she
she is she's on the circuit

623
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:27,480
because she's reading the
scripts perfectly. And she, she

624
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,330
looks kind of the part she's,
she's, she's good eye candy.

625
00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:31,260
She's on the show all the time.

626
00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:34,740
So before it was slowly
congealing into this frozen

627
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,010
conflict, it had fallen out of
the headlines. We hadn't really

628
00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:40,950
I think we met at least in the
US, nobody was really paying

629
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:43,320
attention to Ukraine for at
least the past month or maybe

630
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,880
two. And then all of a sudden, a
jetliner full of Europeans and

631
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:52,140
citizens of other countries
flying from Amsterdam to Kuala

632
00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:57,060
Lumpur is down by these
boneheads with surface to air

633
00:39:57,060 --> 00:40:01,140
missiles. So all of a sudden
it's affected Hang on people who

634
00:40:01,170 --> 00:40:03,300
had never heard of the Donbass
region

635
00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:08,460
perfect. It's working out as
good as it gets. It's working on

636
00:40:08,460 --> 00:40:09,930
the same program.

637
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:15,149
I mean, what kind of thing I
would have said, This is what's

638
00:40:15,149 --> 00:40:17,969
so great about it I'll always
miss it would be drunken Bon

639
00:40:17,969 --> 00:40:18,419
drunken

640
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:25,290
bonehead. If she's on with the
former ambassador to maybe you

641
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:28,710
know Russia maybe I'm not sure
he's a former ambassador and yet

642
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:32,040
these guys get rolled out I've
never seen this guy Hey, he's he

643
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,010
could be off the street for all
I know but just put a lower

644
00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:41,850
third for Ambassador I believe
it and now it's I'm just skip

645
00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:44,280
that. Forget about that. That's
not important. But let's get

646
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,400
into what how this was done. Was
this really a couple of

647
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,710
boneheads not to have you
thought about this John, I'm

648
00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:51,360
sure you've we've seen

649
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,450
some of the over some some clips
that we have here and so we can

650
00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:57,780
get another angle on this and
then you can give us your

651
00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:01,980
explanation. Sure. I want to
start with the blaming, you

652
00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:06,360
know, blaming the carrier
scenario that came out and then

653
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,810
it was done. Out of the blue
came an article in The Atlantic,

654
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:13,650
written by James Fallows of all
people whose wouldn't normally

655
00:41:13,650 --> 00:41:19,020
be doing this, but play mh 17
flight pan plan story a

656
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:19,920
joke.

657
00:41:20,130 --> 00:41:25,380
It's unclear who fired the
missile. But mh 17 did fly over

658
00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:29,550
a warzone the region below
embroiled in conflict between

659
00:41:29,550 --> 00:41:33,840
Russian separatists and the
Ukrainian government. It's her

660
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,250
it's sure is hard to understand
why you would route an aircraft

661
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,170
over unknown combat. But the
planes altitude was determined

662
00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:47,010
to be safe for commercial air
traffic. Even though NATO's top

663
00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:50,730
commander, American general
Philip Breedlove said recently

664
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that Russia has been providing
air defense training to the pro

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Russian rebels why this
Malaysian flight did not file to

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00:41:59,430 --> 00:42:03,510
either go left to right and not
over the combat zone is still a

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00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:04,260
mystery tonight.

668
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:09,810
Okay, so we get that little kind
of teaser I can Can I Can we go?

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00:42:09,810 --> 00:42:09,990
Can

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I respond to that? Or well, I

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00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:14,340
want to play all of them.
Respond to the whole group.

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00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,080
There's three. All right. There
is the counter argument which

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00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,710
CBS which I believe that
probably more than even ABC

674
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:26,040
which you like to think of as
the government spokes whole

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00:42:26,490 --> 00:42:30,960
network. I always think CBS is
the one more so based on the

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00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,740
stories not based on the
connections then which you cite,

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00:42:34,770 --> 00:42:37,440
because there's relatives and
people are fucking each other.

678
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,840
So ACBS take on aerospace, just
a little little tip

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00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:46,590
the airspace over eastern
Ukraine was not closed and

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00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:50,610
numbers of airlines have been
using the route. The wreckage is

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00:42:50,610 --> 00:42:55,590
yielding many clues. And Bob Orr
has that. The trail of debris

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00:42:55,590 --> 00:42:59,340
from what was Malaysia Airlines
Flight 17 provides the first

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00:42:59,340 --> 00:43:03,180
real clue. Parts of the wreckage
and bodies are spread out over

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00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:06,870
several miles along the flight
path. Strong evidence the Boeing

685
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:10,860
triple seven started coming
apart in midair after some force

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00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:14,340
crippled the aircraft. Large
sections of the jet had been

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00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:18,270
recovered away from the primary
crash site. This side section of

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00:43:18,270 --> 00:43:21,030
fuselage shown with a man
standing on one of the Jets

689
00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:24,420
emergency exit doors, and this
part of the planes tail

690
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:28,080
apparently broke off before the
bulk of the jet hit the ground.

691
00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:31,410
Alright, so this guy, of course
didn't seem to have as much

692
00:43:31,410 --> 00:43:33,960
trouble as others getting
around. Now the last one,

693
00:43:34,439 --> 00:43:38,129
especially Bob or Yeah, easy,
right?

694
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Okay, so now we have the PBS
NewsHour take on the no fly

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00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,030
zone, which from a pilot and
it's actually a very interesting

696
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:47,970
discussion. That's very
convincing. But but when you

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00:43:47,970 --> 00:43:50,640
look at the numbers of planes
that are actually flying over

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00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,510
this area, if they are to be
believed, that were run in The

699
00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:58,170
Atlantic magazine, it's kind of
weirdly contradictory. But but

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00:43:58,170 --> 00:44:01,740
play this and then what you can
do give us a take on this miles,

701
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:01,800
I

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00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,580
want to ask you about the the
flight of this plane, why was a

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00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:11,340
passenger plane flying over a
war zone a place where militants

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00:44:11,340 --> 00:44:16,260
had access to surface to air
missiles? It's a simple answer.

705
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:18,840
I think, Judy, it's just a
commercial decision which

706
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,190
trumped common sense safety
decision. Now, the truth be told

707
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:27,060
that technically This aircraft
was flying in free airspace

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00:44:27,090 --> 00:44:32,190
above the so called lid of the
war zone up to 32,000 feet was a

709
00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:36,450
no fly zone. They were 33,000
feet but as a pilot, I can tell

710
00:44:36,450 --> 00:44:40,350
you, I always like to have an
out and when you're flying with

711
00:44:40,350 --> 00:44:44,340
only 1000 feet of margin. If you
have something that requires you

712
00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:47,280
to descend rapidly a
decompression and engine loss or

713
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,130
whatever. In short order, you're
going to be right in the middle

714
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:53,310
of a no fly zone. Best case
scenario you're going to end up

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00:44:53,310 --> 00:44:56,400
having to land doing an
emergency landing inside

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00:44:56,430 --> 00:45:00,780
contested territory. So for an
air carrier to fly I overdid it

717
00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:06,420
with these zones. With such
little margin for error raises a

718
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:08,790
lot of questions which I'm sure
these families would like to

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00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:11,520
have answered, I looked at the
flight paths of some other

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airlines because it wasn't just
Malaysia that went through there

721
00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:17,760
on a routine basis. But if you
look at what Air France has done

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00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,640
recently, what British Airways
has done recently, they have

723
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,350
scrupulously avoided Ukraine
airspace for some time now. And

724
00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:26,910
that is the prudent thing to do.

725
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:33,090
That is a T shirt right there.
Is that is the prudent thing to

726
00:45:33,090 --> 00:45:37,830
do? No, you said Putin. Putin.
That's a new one. That's a Putin

727
00:45:37,830 --> 00:45:42,300
thing to do. Well, let me
respond to that. aircraft fly

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00:45:42,330 --> 00:45:45,990
over combat zones all the time
commercial aircraft, if you look

729
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:47,940
at what's flying over
Afghanistan, if you look what's

730
00:45:47,940 --> 00:45:51,660
flying over Syria, what's flying
over Iraq, it happens all the

731
00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:57,690
time at these altitudes all the
time. What is interesting, that

732
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,980
AirFrance and British Airways
had stopped flying is because

733
00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:08,400
they knew along with Putin, who
we have reports also know lot

734
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,880
for months now was not flying
over the area told all of his

735
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:15,750
associates did not fly over the
area, because it was known this

736
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:18,870
was going to happen. This was
this was and it was also it's a

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00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:23,940
no brainer that this was going
to happen, but that Malaysians

738
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,070
their their boneheads whatever.
But

739
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,430
you know, I took it a step
further. And I don't want to be

740
00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:37,530
sound like my typical bigot
about this when it comes to

741
00:46:37,530 --> 00:46:41,880
Asian culture. But in general,
and I know that, you know, I get

742
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,820
some feedback, but I think it
can be borne out by anyone who's

743
00:46:44,820 --> 00:46:50,190
had any experience. They're
cheap. Best Price, save money

744
00:46:50,190 --> 00:46:53,760
cut corners. There's no way
they're going to fly around if

745
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,190
it's going to cost like he says
a commercial decision and may

746
00:46:56,190 --> 00:46:59,400
cost a few $1,000 Extra in fuel

747
00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:03,030
much more than that. But of
course, you always want to fly

748
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:06,090
in a straight line as possible.
And if anything, this is now

749
00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:09,480
going to give airlines yet
another reason to jack up

750
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,970
prices. This is

751
00:47:12,030 --> 00:47:15,330
will fly the straight line.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

752
00:47:15,450 --> 00:47:20,130
But this is not strange. This is
people commercial aircraft been

753
00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:23,820
flying over war zones for
decades. For decades.

754
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,720
Right. Well, the the piece in
The Atlantic shows the number of

755
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:31,710
flights that over the last week
that flew over this war zone

756
00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:36,720
that includes 75, Singapore
flights 62 Ukrainians 56, Luke

757
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:39,450
tonsa, you think they know
better? So here

758
00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:44,610
is the question, because
aviation in general knows that

759
00:47:44,610 --> 00:47:48,360
they are in no danger flying at
altitudes of 32,000 feet or a

760
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,570
blow above course, 33 is funny.
We'd like that as a magic

761
00:47:51,570 --> 00:47:51,960
number. Yeah,

762
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,330
we do. Yes. Right. We forgot to
mention, it's always fun. It's

763
00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:55,920
always cool for a ring of the
bell.

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00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:02,460
So now we come down to one
essential question. Was this an

765
00:48:02,460 --> 00:48:06,570
accident? Or was it done on
purpose? Or is there a third

766
00:48:06,570 --> 00:48:11,460
option? Is it a combination of
the two? Now I'm going to

767
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:18,510
suggest that commercial aircraft
are not targeted. That's why

768
00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:21,630
most of them except for the ones
who knew the script, which would

769
00:48:21,630 --> 00:48:25,920
be the French and the Brits, and
the Russians did not fly over

770
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:35,460
that zone. And let's talk about
the essay 11 or the book. Now,

771
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:38,640
this is where our I was lucky
because it happened yesterday

772
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,430
morning. This is when I started
to get some information, being

773
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:44,400
aware of a lot of military
people a lot, a lot of people

774
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,580
who understand these systems. So
I'm going to give you my

775
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:53,160
layman's version of what I have
understood. But there is some I

776
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,280
think some actual kind of
smoking gun evidence which I I'm

777
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,260
very which I think no one else
has no one else put this

778
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:10,230
together. So the s a 11 radar
aircraft missile system is a

779
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:14,820
semi active homing radar missile
system. So the way it works is

780
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:17,730
you have a targeting radar. And
by the way that absolutely

781
00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:20,100
correct to say that you need to
be skilled to operate this

782
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,340
stuff. Absolutely correct. And I
believe that people operating at

783
00:49:23,340 --> 00:49:28,650
worst skilled. So it has, it's
called SSR. So you have to,

784
00:49:28,860 --> 00:49:31,920
so you're gonna discount that
concept, the following concept,

785
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,730
which is because we had all
these drunks. In fact, can I

786
00:49:35,730 --> 00:49:39,240
play one clip before? I want to
just play the drunk clip

787
00:49:39,690 --> 00:49:42,390
discussing the drunk. Drunk.

788
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,750
Drunk isn't the drunk

789
00:49:45,780 --> 00:49:48,810
guarding great PBS. I

790
00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:50,400
love this part of the story.

791
00:49:51,330 --> 00:49:54,930
Matt Frey you've just arrived in
the area. What do you know of

792
00:49:54,930 --> 00:49:57,060
what is at the crash site now?

793
00:49:58,020 --> 00:50:02,250
Well, Judy, I spoke to an MSc
Want to turn from Canada just a

794
00:50:02,250 --> 00:50:04,830
few minutes ago who has just
come back from the crash side,

795
00:50:04,830 --> 00:50:07,920
which is about an hour's drive
from where I am now. And it's

796
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,260
dark. By the way, there's a
curfew on people that really

797
00:50:10,290 --> 00:50:12,870
drive in the dark in this part
of the world these days, because

798
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:16,440
it's just too dangerous. What he
told me was extraordinary,

799
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,220
because you essentially describe
the biggest crime scene on the

800
00:50:20,220 --> 00:50:22,020
planet, one of the biggest crime
scenes

801
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:25,920
in aviation history. Wow, that
really discounts 911, done,

802
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,400
guarded by nothing more than a
group of what he described as

803
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:34,170
drunken hood lands in uniform.
These rebels, all of them

804
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:40,050
aren't, most of them, drunk,
drunk, guarding this drunk this

805
00:50:40,050 --> 00:50:43,830
mass grave, which has been
treated with some degree of

806
00:50:43,830 --> 00:50:47,730
respect mainly by the locals by
minors who live in the area, and

807
00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:50,490
their families, they have
covered a lot of the bodies in

808
00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:55,080
blankets. They have tried to
salvage some of the things that

809
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,500
they think might be sensitive,
like passports and so on. But

810
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:00,780
really, they've also tried to
think very hard not to

811
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:05,190
contaminate the crime scene in
any particular way. The other

812
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:07,260
interesting thing is that this
monitor said that when he

813
00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:10,890
arrived at the scene, they got a
very hostile reception from the

814
00:51:10,890 --> 00:51:14,610
people guarding the grave. They
weren't allowed in there at

815
00:51:14,610 --> 00:51:17,250
first and it took a little bit
of negotiation. They did finally

816
00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:19,890
arrive. There was some reports
of warning shots being fired in

817
00:51:19,890 --> 00:51:20,280
the air.

818
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:25,320
All right, so yeah, I'm sorry,
but a bunch of drunk guys are

819
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,620
sitting in the missile launcher
going Hey, bar has learned this

820
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:33,330
shit, man. Fire looks like looks
like a military aircraft to me

821
00:51:33,330 --> 00:51:37,710
Comrade fire. No. Yeah, that is,
of course, we would like you to

822
00:51:37,710 --> 00:51:41,400
believe that. I like it. I like
that story. I think it's good,

823
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,780
too. And it's catching by the
way I it's catching people

824
00:51:45,810 --> 00:51:50,340
believe these stories. No, this
is sophisticated equipment. And

825
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,750
and by the way, I think that
yes, the Russian material

826
00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:58,080
Russian train, of course, Putin
definitely is is trying to

827
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,260
maintain some kind of order. And
so he's he's protecting a border

828
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:03,990
they're looking at the guy is
not innocent. Of course, there's

829
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:07,740
all kinds of bullshit going on.
And absolutely, he's got his

830
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:10,920
troops on the border, and he's
handing weapons out to, to the

831
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:15,570
so called rebels. We do the same
thing. We're giving weapons to

832
00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:16,830
rebels in Syria.

833
00:52:16,859 --> 00:52:20,159
This is not a stop. I'm gonna
stop you right there with this

834
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:23,969
comment that was made earlier.
Where were they saying it's

835
00:52:23,969 --> 00:52:28,169
Russia as far as Russia's fault?
Isn't it? Really? If you start

836
00:52:28,169 --> 00:52:31,739
to really look at this properly,
it's actually our fault.

837
00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:34,290
Are you going to make me jump
ahead? Yes, you're gonna make me

838
00:52:34,290 --> 00:52:38,700
jump ahead. Oh, I didn't mean
to. It's okay. I'm you. Fine.

839
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,720
I'm going to jump ahead to our
favorite Professor Cohen.

840
00:52:43,319 --> 00:52:45,299
Oh, okay. This is all yours.

841
00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:47,070
Here's a guy who we trust,
right?

842
00:52:47,549 --> 00:52:52,139
Yeah, well, we well, as much as
we can trust anybody with the

843
00:52:52,139 --> 00:52:56,129
kind of research we do, like
Senator Moynihan said that all

844
00:52:56,129 --> 00:52:59,189
of us are entitled to our own
opinion, but not to our own

845
00:52:59,189 --> 00:53:04,769
facts. The biggest fact missing
from the story of the tragedy of

846
00:53:04,769 --> 00:53:09,329
the airliner is, is that for
weeks and months now, the

847
00:53:09,329 --> 00:53:13,769
government in Kyiv, which is a
government supported 100%, by

848
00:53:13,769 --> 00:53:18,539
Washington, has been bombing
cities in eastern Ukraine,

849
00:53:19,049 --> 00:53:22,979
bombing them, destroying them
leveling that we probably have

850
00:53:22,979 --> 00:53:27,869
about 250 to 300,000 Refugees
having fled to Russia, or other

851
00:53:27,869 --> 00:53:31,919
parts of Ukraine, that's
humanitarian cow. Catastrophe.

852
00:53:32,099 --> 00:53:35,459
We don't know how many civilian
casualties there are, but

853
00:53:35,459 --> 00:53:39,929
probably at least two or 3000.
In response, these rebels,

854
00:53:40,229 --> 00:53:43,049
whether we like them or not,
have declared that they will try

855
00:53:43,049 --> 00:53:47,609
to shoot down incoming Ukrainian
war planes. And they have been

856
00:53:47,609 --> 00:53:51,689
doing so it was in this context
that this tragedy happened.

857
00:53:52,019 --> 00:53:56,909
Without that fact. We are
dealing with opinion. And I

858
00:53:56,909 --> 00:54:00,869
don't think we honor the people
who died by this orgy of

859
00:54:00,869 --> 00:54:04,259
political opinion that is coming
out of the United States, and

860
00:54:04,259 --> 00:54:08,039
particularly out of Kyiv, which
is producing a lot of, if not

861
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:11,159
false, misleading information.
So I think that's where things

862
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:14,939
stand. And we need all the
entire picture to put this

863
00:54:14,939 --> 00:54:16,469
tragedy in context.

864
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,980
I love the was he the orgy of
political commentary? Was that

865
00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:20,460
what he said,

866
00:54:21,390 --> 00:54:26,100
Well, I got the clip. Okay, when
he butchered this, I was a long

867
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:29,610
clip, I took the just a chunk
out of the middle to show you

868
00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:35,280
that CNN doesn't know what
they're doing. And I want you

869
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,790
to, on this case, I want you to
listen to the innuendo

870
00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:42,330
by the way that that clip from
the professor was from CNN this

871
00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:42,810
morning.

872
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:45,570
Oh, that's good. Yeah. Well,
that makes up for what I'm gonna

873
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:50,910
do. That's a good thing that is
Yeah. So that that guy, somebody

874
00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:54,330
says it's a fact and they just
have bits. It's kind of a fact.

875
00:54:54,330 --> 00:54:57,060
No, it's a bit. It's kind of
this, just play this and you

876
00:54:57,090 --> 00:54:58,230
didn't tell me what they said.

877
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,300
Okay, so mix So these, these
missile launchers are being

878
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:06,510
turned around, first of all, the
question is how damning is that?

879
00:55:06,510 --> 00:55:08,910
I mean, it's a question that I
mean, you can't read I already

880
00:55:08,910 --> 00:55:13,500
love it. I think someone's like
rushing to put something in the

881
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:16,230
prompter and someone's yelling
or he did but the turning

882
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:16,500
around?

883
00:55:17,850 --> 00:55:20,970
And is it all we were tracking
this and we were hearing this

884
00:55:20,970 --> 00:55:23,160
from Ukrainian officials but
we're also tracking this with

885
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,950
our own United States
intelligence. We're seeing we're

886
00:55:25,950 --> 00:55:30,000
confirming what he is saying.
Well, that's right. So far, all

887
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,090
of these reports in according to
US officials, we've talked to

888
00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:37,470
they rather than confirming it,
they'll use that sort of evasion

889
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:41,700
evasive language to say, we
can't dispute it, which often

890
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:45,060
means they have the evidence,
but they just don't want reveal

891
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:49,080
how they obtained or how they
got certain kinds of evidence,

892
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,810
but they they are certain that
the missile launch occurred

893
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:55,200
there. They're not entirely
certain but highly suspicious

894
00:55:55,350 --> 00:55:59,250
that it was probably Russians,
certainly who were training the

895
00:55:59,250 --> 00:56:02,400
militia on how to use these
weapons systems and the

896
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,690
suspicion deep suspicion without
actually concluding that fact

897
00:56:06,690 --> 00:56:10,230
quite yet. The deep suspicion is
that Russians were directly

898
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:12,450
involved in launching those
missiles

899
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:19,380
that was a minute and 10 seconds
to say to say this very simple

900
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:26,790
was she started off with this
effect and deteriorate the

901
00:56:26,790 --> 00:56:33,840
deeps? It's astonishing to me
well what these these talking

902
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,520
heads do in these situations?

903
00:56:35,550 --> 00:56:38,310
Well, since you've taken me off
track and I will get back again

904
00:56:38,310 --> 00:56:41,580
in a moment. Peter King came of
course the first John McCain was

905
00:56:41,580 --> 00:56:45,690
on within seconds. And as we
predicted, didn't we say the

906
00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:46,020
minute

907
00:56:46,980 --> 00:56:50,220
we're gonna be a John McCain
puppet that just comes up every

908
00:56:50,220 --> 00:56:50,730
so often?

909
00:56:52,140 --> 00:56:53,340
I think this is the one

910
00:56:53,370 --> 00:56:58,290
I am not concluding. Yeah. We
don't want to make the mistake

911
00:56:58,290 --> 00:57:01,350
of make reaching conclusions
we'll know within the next few

912
00:57:01,350 --> 00:57:06,390
hours so but if it is resolved
to be either separatist or

913
00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:10,590
Russian actions mistakingly
believing that this was a

914
00:57:10,590 --> 00:57:14,010
Ukrainian war playing I think
there's going to be held to pay

915
00:57:14,010 --> 00:57:14,670
and there should be

916
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:21,510
held to pay held to pay bills to
pay Peter King comes on and Paul

917
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:26,040
to pay Peter King has he's got a
he's got a pronunciation issue,

918
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,770
which I kind of like yeah,
there's many ways to say Putin.

919
00:57:32,070 --> 00:57:35,640
You can say Putin, like I liked
the girl from Russia today. Oh,

920
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,360
by the way, on cue with the
President's Oh, there'll be

921
00:57:39,390 --> 00:57:43,740
misinformation. The another
Chicky from RT resigns it's too

922
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:47,250
much lies. I can't handle it. I
love that one but she didn't do

923
00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:49,530
it on air. This sucks. flibs

924
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,910
Dan you know what? He tweeted
it. I think the RT producers

925
00:57:54,150 --> 00:58:00,750
have identified the John's
provoca door dad out bitch and

926
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:02,070
they don't let him go on live

927
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:04,860
Yeah, they blocker at the door.
We know what you're up to vino

928
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:09,330
have a job to go have a go to
beat your resignation. So you

929
00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:13,950
can say pool and you can say
pool 10 You can say but McCain

930
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:17,700
he's got a whole new one. So
does Putin have blood on his

931
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:20,760
hands with this plane crash? I
love the question. Jake. Thank

932
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:26,160
you so much blood on his hands
blood. Putin is responsible of

933
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:34,650
Putin, Putin. Putin Putin notes
Putin. Putin. Putin. Putin is

934
00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:38,430
very cool. So does Putin has
blood on his hands with this

935
00:58:38,430 --> 00:58:39,240
plane crash?

936
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:42,630
Putin is responsible if you want
to use expression blood on his

937
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:45,960
hands, I would say yes, as a
world leader. He has to know

938
00:58:46,050 --> 00:58:50,250
that when he transfer transfers
weaponry of this sophistication,

939
00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:53,790
which is so lethal, he has to be
responsible for the consequences

940
00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:57,480
for that, and American died. So
I would blame America for that.

941
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,520
And I also compute

942
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,620
what is the name of the Russian
commercial airline John Aeroflot

943
00:59:04,890 --> 00:59:09,390
Aeroflot? Yeah, sure. It's
Aeroflot. It's Aeroflot us.

944
00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:13,800
Sure. Yeah, just like it's Putin
is

945
00:59:13,950 --> 00:59:16,920
responsibility on him for all of
the others. He is the one who

946
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,530
made the decision. If he had not
transferred this equipment, it

947
00:59:19,530 --> 00:59:23,160
wouldn't have happened. And if
he hadn't ordered the training

948
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,640
of the of these sessions to
operate the equipment and

949
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,190
couldn't have happened. So yes,
in the world stage, he's

950
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:29,760
responsible.

951
00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:32,730
So congressman, what should the
consequences be? What would you

952
00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:34,770
advise President Obama to do?

953
00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:38,070
I was critical of President
Obama yesterday for not being

954
00:59:38,070 --> 00:59:40,440
more assertive. I thought he was
very effective today. I thought

955
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,930
Ambassador Samantha Power was
extremely effective with the

956
00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:45,420
United Nation. That's right. And
Americans have to come together

957
00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:48,090
behind the President on this. I
think though, we need very

958
00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:50,760
strong economic sanctions
stronger than we've had. And

959
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,210
I've urged actually the we
consider having sanctions on our

960
00:59:54,210 --> 00:59:55,230
flat though you know, the

961
00:59:55,890 --> 01:00:02,640
flat arrow flat, flat, Arrow
flat Putin's Aeroflot airlines

962
01:00:02,670 --> 01:00:06,930
aero flat deck Peter can go home
stupid moron

963
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,620
looked at the sanctions. Yeah,
of course it looked at the sank.

964
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:12,990
They're all banking saying, Now
gasps.

965
01:00:14,250 --> 01:00:18,030
It's all about Gazprom. Okay,
now back to the Gazprom back to

966
01:00:18,030 --> 01:00:20,820
this. So we got a bunch of
drunks who have no idea just

967
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:23,220
pushing buttons. They don't they
don't know what they're doing

968
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:26,370
about this semi active home.
Homing radar.

969
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:34,740
Hey, Adam. Let's go into let's
go into the thing there and

970
01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:42,060
lodge a missile. I'm so baked.
Let's go launch missile talking

971
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:42,600
cool man.

972
01:00:45,810 --> 01:00:48,240
You're gonna be people saying
these assholes are laughing

973
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:53,040
people have died? Yeah, exactly.
So the way this thing works is

974
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:58,290
first, we the targeting radars
used to identify and track the

975
01:00:58,290 --> 01:01:04,380
target. And what it will do is
it's going to identify this as a

976
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:08,670
bias, either mode A or mode,
Charlie, these are transponder

977
01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:11,130
modes, which I happen to know a
little bit about having passed

978
01:01:11,130 --> 01:01:15,330
the tests and how I have the
license. So they would know this

979
01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:18,090
is not the one you want to pick
off. This is not the one you

980
01:01:18,090 --> 01:01:20,940
want to do. But okay, so it's
going to lock on to a signal,

981
01:01:21,870 --> 01:01:25,710
then you have a secondary radar,
which typically is from a

982
01:01:25,710 --> 01:01:29,670
different radar station, in this
case, I believe it may have been

983
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:34,020
may have been used by the same,
the same system, they have done

984
01:01:34,020 --> 01:01:38,670
the illumination. Because so
what happens is the missile goes

985
01:01:38,670 --> 01:01:41,640
and missile ignores the general
area, but then the target is

986
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,050
going to be as we call it in the
in the biz illuminated, you're

987
01:01:46,050 --> 01:01:50,070
lighting it up, this is very
typical. This is how, you know

988
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:53,820
when guys need a, an attack or
an air attack. And they're on

989
01:01:53,820 --> 01:01:57,570
the ground. They you know, they
focus radar on the area where

990
01:01:57,570 --> 01:01:59,850
they where they want the bombs
dropped. And this is how it

991
01:01:59,850 --> 01:02:03,000
works. You have your primary and
secondary systems. And then the

992
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,210
missile goes, Okay, gotta be
over there. And then it actually

993
01:02:06,210 --> 01:02:11,220
doesn't fly into it. It explodes
in the general vicinity, and it

994
01:02:11,220 --> 01:02:14,940
has enough shrapnel and crap
that it punctures and you know,

995
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:19,620
the thing comes out of the air,
right? That's how the NSA 11

996
01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:26,910
works. Now, even though everyone
says we have, we know everything

997
01:02:26,910 --> 01:02:30,180
we've got, but the US satellites
picked it up, which is funny,

998
01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:33,270
because we had another Malaysian
aircraft, we couldn't detect

999
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:36,990
explosions. We couldn't detect
anything. The thing is gone. You

1000
01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:40,260
have no idea of radar pings
black boxes, but in this case,

1001
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:43,170
oh, it's very clear. We know
exactly how it went down. In

1002
01:02:43,170 --> 01:02:47,580
fact, on our friends, CNN, they
have the virtual studio. John,

1003
01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:52,530
have you seen the same dickhead
who goes it was like your

1004
01:02:52,770 --> 01:02:56,550
geography teacher. And he stands
in the middle of the floor and

1005
01:02:56,550 --> 01:03:00,600
then he has all this virtual 3d
stuff flying around him. But he

1006
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,350
pretty much just says it out.
Right? They have no clue

1007
01:03:04,350 --> 01:03:08,550
following the breaking news.
Robbing Malaysia Flight. Tom

1008
01:03:08,550 --> 01:03:13,770
Foreman virtual studio, as
opposed to the real studio urine

1009
01:03:13,770 --> 01:03:16,470
broth with a closer look at the
attack. What are you seeing?

1010
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:18,990
What are you finding out? Yeah,
what it what's on the

1011
01:03:18,990 --> 01:03:19,770
teleprompter, Jeff? Well,

1012
01:03:20,190 --> 01:03:21,000
what are you finding out?

1013
01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:23,400
We gotta use this all the time.
Hey, John, how you doing? What

1014
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,720
are you seeing? What are you
finding out? What are you

1015
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,820
seeing? What do you what are you
learning as investigators try to

1016
01:03:26,820 --> 01:03:29,970
get control of the ground there,
they're following high tech

1017
01:03:29,970 --> 01:03:35,880
tracks to figure out where this
rocket was launched. And who did

1018
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,400
it he was talking about the
first part to begin with, you

1019
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,560
know, planes like this send off
radar signals. We've talked

1020
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,010
about that a lot. Those radar
signals can be followed by

1021
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,690
satellites. Well, this is true
of this Buk missile launching

1022
01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:51,840
system we've talked about when
it is looking for a target, it

1023
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:57,930
sends off a big radar signal.
And when it launches a missile

1024
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,500
into the air that sends off a
heat signature first, which can

1025
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:05,310
be read by a rocket overhead.
And the rocket itself sends off

1026
01:04:05,340 --> 01:04:08,820
a radar signal when it gets
partway along the way, all which

1027
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:11,910
can be followed by satellites
and other types of monitoring

1028
01:04:11,910 --> 01:04:15,810
systems and systems special
secret satellite systems, Moon

1029
01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:19,140
bases, clear way all those
signals and what do you wind up

1030
01:04:19,140 --> 01:04:22,170
with? You wind up with a very
clear line that goes from the

1031
01:04:22,170 --> 01:04:25,560
launch up to where the missile
was up to where the plane

1032
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,980
exploded in the sky. Now he has
a dot, dot dot flying past his

1033
01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:32,010
head in the virtual studio. Like
wow, they know exactly where it

1034
01:04:32,010 --> 01:04:34,530
came from everything. It's so
precise. We have secret

1035
01:04:34,530 --> 01:04:36,870
listening systems, high tech,
that's one of the way

1036
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:39,630
authorities have been able to
trace this back and say they're

1037
01:04:39,630 --> 01:04:44,520
so confident about where it came
from now, to determine who shot

1038
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,310
it. That's a different equation.
They've managed to take a very

1039
01:04:47,310 --> 01:04:51,270
big map that had a very big
circle on it 24 hours ago, that

1040
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:54,150
they draw a circle the size of
Ukraine, it came from somewhere

1041
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:58,410
in this area, we'd call and they
push that circle down much

1042
01:04:58,410 --> 01:05:02,490
smaller I would target that they
Think big gains the launch site

1043
01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:06,450
think that's bullshit I'll
precise No, it's bullshit now

1044
01:05:06,450 --> 01:05:08,220
they have to look at things like
the phone calls we've been

1045
01:05:08,220 --> 01:05:11,400
talking about. Now we got the
phone calls that forget the

1046
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,330
circle. We got the phone days of
purported phone calls per video

1047
01:05:15,330 --> 01:05:18,210
released released by the
Ukrainian Ministry of the

1048
01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:23,430
Interior showing what they say,
Hey, goop launchers in the area

1049
01:05:23,550 --> 01:05:27,840
missing or apparently missing a
missile there we go back to the

1050
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,630
high tech satellites. I'm
confused. Now. We've got phone

1051
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:32,520
calls and YouTube.

1052
01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:36,090
Didn't they? Didn't they just
knocked down a transport plan?

1053
01:05:36,090 --> 01:05:38,460
Yes. That account for the
missing missile.

1054
01:05:38,490 --> 01:05:41,820
Yes. Thank you very much. She
put all of that together, Wolf

1055
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:45,450
with the high tech track tech
track. That's what's allowing

1056
01:05:45,450 --> 01:05:49,260
them to circle down even if they
have to struggle with that very

1057
01:05:49,260 --> 01:05:51,690
issue. You were talking about
moments ago. Control of the

1058
01:05:51,690 --> 01:05:53,640
ground without that, right.
We'll never know where this

1059
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,070
missile came from. All right,
but in the meantime, they keep

1060
01:05:56,070 --> 01:05:57,540
looking okay, thank you just

1061
01:05:57,780 --> 01:06:00,600
nothing. They don't have no
idea. So they went through all

1062
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,370
that expensive rigmarole. Yeah,

1063
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,720
they say we don't know. Right.
Okay. Now, what has been

1064
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:13,350
happening and we have YouTube
videos as far back as June 18.

1065
01:06:13,410 --> 01:06:16,620
And these are in the show notes.
I in fact, there's one really

1066
01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:20,190
cute girl she's a she's a
Russian separatist I guess, a

1067
01:06:20,190 --> 01:06:24,690
pro Russian insurgent. And she
actually it was really hard to

1068
01:06:24,690 --> 01:06:28,380
get an AK 47 strapped around her
she got to her. You know, her T

1069
01:06:28,380 --> 01:06:33,270
shirts open is really cute. And
open a t shirt. Yeah, it's like

1070
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:35,520
it's like rip down a little bit.
No rip.

1071
01:06:35,550 --> 01:06:40,260
Yeah. She's a bottle of working
for some some propaganda. Ah, so

1072
01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:40,740
yes.

1073
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:49,320
And yeah, they of course. And
thank you. So and we have

1074
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:55,050
multiple reports of Ukrainian
fighter jets. shet doing what we

1075
01:06:55,050 --> 01:06:59,160
call shadowing civilian
aircraft. And the way that works

1076
01:06:59,190 --> 01:07:04,020
is in fact I'll read from the
translation unverified but I'm

1077
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,810
we have enough Russians who can
verify this for me. The

1078
01:07:06,810 --> 01:07:08,940
following happened just short
while ago there was a regular

1079
01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:12,180
passenger plane civilian plane
flying over slow launch. A

1080
01:07:12,180 --> 01:07:15,480
Ukraine knee and fighter plane
hid behind the passenger plane

1081
01:07:15,630 --> 01:07:18,780
then dove below it dropped its
bombs on slow launch and then

1082
01:07:18,780 --> 01:07:23,100
rose to hide behind the
passenger plane again. And she

1083
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:27,870
goes on to say that means it's
provocative provocation and of

1084
01:07:27,870 --> 01:07:31,170
course it is provocation and
what you want now is you want

1085
01:07:31,740 --> 01:07:35,190
boneheads drunken boneheads to
obviously shoot at these fighter

1086
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:38,640
planes. But of course, you know,
even the boneheads aren't that

1087
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,720
stupid? Because they know you
might kill people and we don't

1088
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:48,960
want to do this. Now, here's
where it gets interesting. What

1089
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:57,210
if I told you that there was an
exercise involved around the

1090
01:07:57,210 --> 01:08:00,870
event that happened on Thursday?
Before it that actually points

1091
01:08:00,870 --> 01:08:05,640
to how this went down? And
military NATO exercise? Don't

1092
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:06,840
you hate it when that happens?

1093
01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:12,840
I would say this is the Adam
curry. I found an exercise a

1094
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,160
segment of the show

1095
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:19,290
I would like you to go to New
fip.no agenda notes.com New fib

1096
01:08:19,290 --> 01:08:24,990
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1097
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:35,220
browser working good abroad and
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1098
01:08:35,220 --> 01:08:36,600
notes.com

1099
01:08:37,980 --> 01:08:39,960
notes calm

1100
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,639
is why people pay to listen to
the show. Yeah, I cannot find

1101
01:08:50,639 --> 01:08:52,139
the server@curry.com

1102
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,520
Now what do you think it should
be? No agenda notes.com

1103
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:58,830
Yeah, that's what I typed in but
is what came up as error

1104
01:08:58,830 --> 01:08:59,670
messages tried again,

1105
01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:05,190
let me see new tips. No no as
new FIP new fit Okay, good. No

1106
01:09:05,190 --> 01:09:08,670
agenda notes.com And I get the
document

1107
01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:16,680
notes. Calm Oh, there it is.
Okay, it

1108
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,120
says new FIP document by Adam
curry. And in there's a PDF. I'm

1109
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,300
looking and click on the PDF and
this is in German. Now. Luckily

1110
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:26,160
I happen to be able to read some
German

1111
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,610
but this is a second read some
German said this is

1112
01:09:29,639 --> 01:09:33,149
a miracle you're storing in
there Fluke see room door

1113
01:09:33,149 --> 01:09:39,269
military CheMin over. And what
this relates to John is the

1114
01:09:39,299 --> 01:09:44,309
outages of radar. On two
occasions in Europe. We talked

1115
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:45,599
about this on the show.

1116
01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:48,210
All right. We talked about this
is when the when there was a big

1117
01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:51,210
coup was kind of a phony scandal
that actually

1118
01:09:51,210 --> 01:09:56,400
happened twice. We had it once
on let me go to my notes here.

1119
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:03,300
Here we go. June 5, and again on
June 10. It only affected

1120
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:07,860
aircraft really above flight
level 250 And about now a little

1121
01:10:07,860 --> 01:10:11,760
bit higher than seven seven
kilometers so let's just say

1122
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,500
this really works well at
altitude certainly 32,000 feet

1123
01:10:16,530 --> 01:10:20,970
and above. Now, if you look at
the reports and this this German

1124
01:10:20,970 --> 01:10:25,110
report is an official goondas
document. Not all planes were

1125
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:29,790
affected for some planes mode A
failed for some mode see failed.

1126
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,020
And the source of the problem
has was identified at the time

1127
01:10:34,050 --> 01:10:37,830
as to possibly planes but
certainly ground receivers the

1128
01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:41,040
source of non identified and
primary radio was not affected

1129
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,820
only transponders. Now if you
look at this document, and I

1130
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:48,540
will translate a part a portion
of it. This is regarding the new

1131
01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:54,360
FIP exercises on between June 2
And June sixth to the same

1132
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,160
period. A new fib stands for
NATO electronic warfare force

1133
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:04,440
integration period. Electronic
warfare is this kind of stuff.

1134
01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:09,360
I'm translating Mr. Obama to
fit. The new fit exercises

1135
01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:12,180
exercise serves to train methods
of electronic warfare the

1136
01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:15,390
exercise was conducted in the
area of case care this is all

1137
01:11:15,390 --> 01:11:18,540
hungry between June 2 And June 6
participants were the 59th

1138
01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:23,070
fighter of Zen gurgi twel, the
anti aircraft missile regiment

1139
01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:26,190
of Aramoana, air combat control
and the 54th radar unit

1140
01:11:26,190 --> 01:11:33,330
vestment. And essentially what
this document says is, this is

1141
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:38,130
the kind of egg this is exactly
the type of exercise they were

1142
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,550
participating in was jamming
radar and spoofing radar

1143
01:11:41,550 --> 01:11:46,110
signals. And then maybe
something went out of control.

1144
01:11:46,110 --> 01:11:49,200
Maybe someone turned the music
up a little too loud, but on the

1145
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,460
ninth and the 10th we actually
saw a civilian aircraft radar,

1146
01:11:53,970 --> 01:11:57,270
transponders disappearing from
radar, which is now pretty much

1147
01:11:57,270 --> 01:12:01,620
conclusive. We can take that
right back to these exercises,

1148
01:12:02,010 --> 01:12:05,880
June 5, certainly June 9,
possibly because the exercise

1149
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:10,080
took place between the second
and sixth of June. And this is

1150
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:16,200
specifically this tactic fly
within four kilometers behind a

1151
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,130
civilian aircraft. This is they
drilled for this job, jam the

1152
01:12:20,130 --> 01:12:28,590
radar and then you make the mill
mode available. So it looks like

1153
01:12:28,590 --> 01:12:32,400
you are either a NATO aircraft
or Ukrainian aircraft or any

1154
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:41,820
aircraft you want on the
military mode. I believe that a

1155
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:45,090
either NATO that will be easy,
but it doesn't really matter who

1156
01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:47,040
wins it is not going to be the
Germans or anything like that

1157
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,670
probably Ukrainian maybe some of
the FA teams that we got in

1158
01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:55,020
Poland whoever was split and you
don't need a lot of power went

1159
01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:59,160
up there shadowed the this
Malaysian aircraft it was all

1160
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:04,440
intentional. They jammed the the
mode A mode C transponder

1161
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:09,540
broadcasted their mode, mil
transponder code, just sit back

1162
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:13,440
for kilometers and then just
wait for the for the target lock

1163
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,980
wait for the for the plane to be
lit up by the secondary radar.

1164
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:24,060
You're done. That's what I think
the likely scenario is that wow,

1165
01:13:24,090 --> 01:13:27,870
that's a good one. And it fits
in with this training and fits

1166
01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:30,000
in with it with

1167
01:13:30,210 --> 01:13:32,670
with a lot of the conspiracies
about the Ukrainian jets

1168
01:13:32,670 --> 01:13:36,480
shooting it down. Yes. Yes, that
would be as good as

1169
01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:38,820
that wouldn't be it would be
kind of far fetched if they

1170
01:13:38,820 --> 01:13:43,080
hadn't trained for exactly these
scenarios a month ago and we had

1171
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:48,810
the radar Blips. Right. So So
these drunken boneheads, on the

1172
01:13:48,810 --> 01:13:54,090
ground. They had a confirmed
target. They had a confirm mode,

1173
01:13:54,090 --> 01:13:58,650
mil target and they were
spoofed. And and so yes, they

1174
01:13:58,650 --> 01:14:02,040
intended to shoot something out
of the sky. No, they were not

1175
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:07,980
drunk and like whatever they got
spoofed. And by the way, in a

1176
01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:12,630
sophisticated manner, well done
well played. So you know, who

1177
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:15,060
did this it's kind of
irrelevant. It all goes back

1178
01:14:15,090 --> 01:14:19,350
essentially to Hillary Clinton.
The Kagan's the people from Yale

1179
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:21,090
the Neo cons John Carell

1180
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:26,160
Do you know great analysis
again, of course the only our

1181
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,180
show does these and comes up
with this sort of thing. Thank

1182
01:14:30,180 --> 01:14:32,040
you. I knew that it'd be
something like this though. It

1183
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:32,610
had to be

1184
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,120
Yeah, well, when when I found
that it was sent to me of course

1185
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,510
when I got the German document
when I when I was able to

1186
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:43,140
connect that to the outages on
radar. And then I talked to set

1187
01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:46,800
me up I have talked to a number
of people over the past couple

1188
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,550
of days but certainly a lot
yesterday. And this is you know,

1189
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:53,010
they are this is this is what
they trained for. This is the

1190
01:14:53,010 --> 01:14:56,040
way it would have been done. And
you know, guys who are sitting

1191
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,830
in these and actually you need
not just two guys, you know,

1192
01:14:58,830 --> 01:15:01,710
that could be 13 people in
involved in essay 11 With all

1193
01:15:01,710 --> 01:15:05,340
the illumination radars, etc.
These are not a bunch of drunken

1194
01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:09,240
boneheads okay it's just
bullshit but this was a good one

1195
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:13,470
this was this was well done and
it was well executed the target

1196
01:15:13,470 --> 01:15:18,300
was carefully chosen by a
country that has no army Oh Here

1197
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:24,180
come the Dutch Wait a minute we
got to find the bullet you know

1198
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,300
like the Dutch I'm not gonna
invade anybody and the Dutch are

1199
01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:31,050
so mind controlled say I hate to
say it. All they can do is you

1200
01:15:31,050 --> 01:15:34,440
know change their icons on
Facebook and Twitter and talk

1201
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:37,830
about the bodies and nothing
else and the government is not

1202
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:41,070
going to do anything because
they're they're deathly afraid

1203
01:15:41,070 --> 01:15:42,000
of Putin

1204
01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:45,510
right and Malaysian Airlines is
not a NATO No,

1205
01:15:45,690 --> 01:15:46,680
thank you very much

1206
01:15:46,710 --> 01:15:48,420
so you don't need as a NATO can

1207
01:15:48,450 --> 01:15:51,840
no Americans on the flight.
Europeans on the flight

1208
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:55,650
perfectly chosen could not be
hog and Malaysians

1209
01:15:55,650 --> 01:15:58,950
or already known as a bonehead
operation from the missing plane

1210
01:15:58,980 --> 01:16:03,750
it this was a directly targeted,
perfectly targeted, well

1211
01:16:03,780 --> 01:16:09,810
executed false flag. This is a
real one a real one. And oh, by

1212
01:16:09,810 --> 01:16:14,640
the way, I thought it was
disgusting. But I have to get

1213
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,100
the president props. Let me
close by making one additional

1214
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:21,840
comment. On board Malaysian Air
Lines Flight MH 17 There were

1215
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,140
apparently nearly 100
researchers and advocates

1216
01:16:25,140 --> 01:16:28,410
traveling to an international
conference in Australia

1217
01:16:28,410 --> 01:16:32,370
dedicated to combating AIDS. As
you know Putin hates gays.

1218
01:16:33,150 --> 01:16:35,940
That was a that was disgusting.
But even it was disgusting when

1219
01:16:35,940 --> 01:16:41,160
you play my clip mh 17 France 24
correct age researchers numbers

1220
01:16:42,450 --> 01:16:46,200
on that Malaysia Airlines Flight
one seven were a number of AIDS

1221
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,440
researchers on their way to
attend an AIDS conference in

1222
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:53,310
Melbourne, Australia. That
conference began on schedule

1223
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:56,850
this Saturday, with a minute of
silence to remember the victims,

1224
01:16:57,090 --> 01:17:00,810
six researchers were on board
that flight and not around 100

1225
01:17:00,810 --> 01:17:02,790
as had previously been reported.

1226
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,940
Exactly course, anybody said in
that same speech, there will be

1227
01:17:08,940 --> 01:17:10,950
misinformation there. Yeah.

1228
01:17:11,220 --> 01:17:11,880
Delivering.

1229
01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:16,770
He's so right now. Let me play a
couple more clips. Because if

1230
01:17:16,770 --> 01:17:22,860
you really want to know what the
what's really going on, and I

1231
01:17:22,860 --> 01:17:27,330
have come to respect and love
this guy, but not only because

1232
01:17:27,420 --> 01:17:30,870
he talks with the most
incredible accent, but still has

1233
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:33,840
American sounding to it. And
sometimes he just goes into this

1234
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,380
gravelly voice so it's a it's a
between a Kissinger and

1235
01:17:37,380 --> 01:17:43,140
something else. Zbigniew
Brzezinski. He also talks in 45

1236
01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:49,080
second sound bites that guy is
phenomenal. Okay, bets. So for

1237
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,740
clips, the whole thing is laid
out and you understand what's

1238
01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:56,130
going on clip one, Zbigniew
Brzezinski we should

1239
01:17:56,130 --> 01:17:59,940
have they are aware of the fact
that this is truly a

1240
01:17:59,940 --> 01:18:04,530
historically defining moments.
If we do the things we need to

1241
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:10,620
do, if we are firm and clear,
but also somewhat flexible, we

1242
01:18:10,620 --> 01:18:12,720
can still get put in the chance
we can

1243
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,440
still give Putin the chance I
have to work on his accent, if

1244
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:19,710
we can get him to be somewhat
flexible is your Dracula

1245
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:25,410
to redeem himself. And to rejoin
the community of nations. We are

1246
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:30,030
in fact facing the first use of
force over territorial issues in

1247
01:18:30,030 --> 01:18:34,800
Europe since the outbreak of
World War Two, you literally die

1248
01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:41,220
doing it. But I think he can be
persuaded to stop if we stand

1249
01:18:41,220 --> 01:18:44,190
united. And that means
presidential leadership from the

1250
01:18:44,190 --> 01:18:49,050
United States and consistent
continued actions. and European

1251
01:18:49,050 --> 01:18:52,680
leaders rallying with us. It's a
major challenge, but it is

1252
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:53,700
defining okay. Now

1253
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:59,460
this is it is really his script.
This is he loves this. This guy

1254
01:18:59,460 --> 01:19:03,780
is so good. And of course Putin
is responsible. The only way

1255
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:07,290
that this can that this Putin
can save himself is he must

1256
01:19:07,290 --> 01:19:11,190
redeem himself, which of course
is never going to happen. But

1257
01:19:11,190 --> 01:19:11,670
that No,

1258
01:19:11,670 --> 01:19:14,610
I disagree with that. Oh, hold
on. Well, first of all I have in

1259
01:19:14,610 --> 01:19:18,270
mind put in doing it. That is to
say he can still say that the

1260
01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:22,380
actions that were taken to shoot
down that plane by his thugs

1261
01:19:22,410 --> 01:19:26,910
with the arms he provided went
far beyond anything he intended.

1262
01:19:27,330 --> 01:19:31,530
And this was an illegal criminal
act, and the people responsible

1263
01:19:31,530 --> 01:19:34,920
for it will be handed over to
the international tribunal. And

1264
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,420
you can suspend the military
intervention in Ukraine itself,

1265
01:19:39,690 --> 01:19:43,260
which is a cause of possible
conflict between the East and

1266
01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:47,340
the West as a whole. These are
the actions he can undertake. If

1267
01:19:47,340 --> 01:19:51,210
he fails to undertake then he is
actually challenging the

1268
01:19:51,210 --> 01:19:54,450
cohesion of the international
system and the security of

1269
01:19:54,450 --> 01:19:55,770
Europe at the same time. So

1270
01:19:55,770 --> 01:20:01,110
the entire world peace right now
lays in the balance By with one

1271
01:20:01,110 --> 01:20:07,260
man. We call him Putin. He flies
on Arrow flat. And he and we

1272
01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:10,350
need and this, of course, is
what this event is about to get

1273
01:20:10,380 --> 01:20:13,470
all the European leaders in line
because who's not playing

1274
01:20:13,710 --> 01:20:17,610
Angular Merkel is not playing
nice with us here in America.

1275
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,660
fact I do have a vertical clip.
Okay,

1276
01:20:21,690 --> 01:20:23,520
what can it let me play
Brzezinski and then we'll play

1277
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,950
your Merkel clip when we set it
up. Here's here's Brzezinski

1278
01:20:25,980 --> 01:20:28,170
about getting the EU leaders in
line.

1279
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,340
My sense is that the European
public opinion is aroused. This

1280
01:20:32,340 --> 01:20:37,020
humanitarian issue is so tragic,
so painful, so cruel. So current

1281
01:20:37,020 --> 01:20:39,960
so unnecessarily unnecessarily
Europeans are beginning to be

1282
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,680
moved. But each of the major
European leaders has a role to

1283
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,580
play. Chancellor Merkel has to
face the fact that her

1284
01:20:47,580 --> 01:20:51,660
predecessor also a chancellor,
was one of the creators of

1285
01:20:51,660 --> 01:20:55,020
Europe's dependence on Russian
energy supplies.

1286
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,970
right in line with Hillary
Clinton.

1287
01:20:57,330 --> 01:21:00,900
Does Europe want to become a
satellite? I think President

1288
01:21:00,930 --> 01:21:04,260
alarmed has to face the fact
that he cannot now at this

1289
01:21:04,260 --> 01:21:08,130
moment sell some ships to Russia
be sending advanced arms to help

1290
01:21:08,130 --> 01:21:13,020
Russia Prime Minister poquito
fuck you frog. Cameron should

1291
01:21:13,020 --> 01:21:17,040
face the fact that the City of
London has become a Las Vegas

1292
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:20,670
for Russian financial
transactions. With the hookers

1293
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:24,330
that are self serving. There are
responsibilities these leaders

1294
01:21:24,330 --> 01:21:27,810
have to face. And they have
public opinions, which I think

1295
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,530
are becoming increasingly aware
that this is truly a moment of

1296
01:21:31,530 --> 01:21:34,440
decisive significance for the
future and the system of the

1297
01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:35,130
world system.

1298
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,370
That's right. Everybody has been
blowing potent and you got to

1299
01:21:38,370 --> 01:21:41,490
stop now unless you want to be
are you are you with us? Are you

1300
01:21:41,490 --> 01:21:44,160
with the bad guys? You can't
have this

1301
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,520
not you know, this is fine. You
know that he says all this but I

1302
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,700
think your original points that
you made 10 minutes ago, which

1303
01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:54,480
is his didn't get the response
that they hoped for. There is no

1304
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:57,870
outrage in Europe. They're all
like, you know, wringing their

1305
01:21:57,870 --> 01:22:01,260
hands and continuing business as
usual. At currently Yes,

1306
01:22:01,260 --> 01:22:05,970
exactly. But this is this goal,
of course is is key to all this

1307
01:22:05,970 --> 01:22:08,610
because she's buddies we always
have to remember they met in it

1308
01:22:08,610 --> 01:22:10,440
and watch football game
together. I

1309
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:13,350
think I think still I think they
do they play Petten games

1310
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:13,890
actually.

1311
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,030
Well, I don't think so. But it's
possible. Whatever the case is,

1312
01:22:18,030 --> 01:22:20,940
they're down partying all the
time. They speak to each other's

1313
01:22:20,940 --> 01:22:24,300
languages, and they're good
pals. And so you end up after we

1314
01:22:24,300 --> 01:22:27,750
after everybody on our site
jumps to conclusion. Merkel she

1315
01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:30,990
puts the kibosh on the whole
thing with his little commentary

1316
01:22:30,990 --> 01:22:34,020
here when that's recorded on
France 24.

1317
01:22:34,170 --> 01:22:36,990
I'm looking forward. i Oh, here
we go. Okay.

1318
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:41,490
It's been an Asian Airlines
plane. Evidence indicates that

1319
01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:45,060
the plane was shot down by
surface to air missile that was

1320
01:22:45,060 --> 01:22:47,880
launched from an area that is
controlled by Russian backed

1321
01:22:48,060 --> 01:22:51,810
separatists inside of Ukraine.
We know that the separatists

1322
01:22:51,810 --> 01:22:55,290
have received a steady flow of
support from Russia.

1323
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:59,490
Whilst the US president took a
tough stance against Russia,

1324
01:22:59,850 --> 01:23:03,870
German Chancellor Angela Merkel
held back pending further

1325
01:23:03,870 --> 01:23:04,860
investigation

1326
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:09,240
was done soon. As it's regarding
sanctions, I'd like to point out

1327
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,600
that the events with the plane
were not even 24 hours ago, and

1328
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,760
at the moment, we need to sort
out an independent

1329
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,360
investigation. So it's perhaps
premature to draw conclusions

1330
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,970
before we have access to the
remains of the plane.

1331
01:23:23,220 --> 01:23:27,240
Meanwhile, following a minute's
silence of the chamber, the UN

1332
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,690
Security Council demanded an
inquest into the crash of Flight

1333
01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:31,770
MH, one seven.

1334
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:36,390
Yeah. So let me just say, John,
I'm only playing with the script

1335
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:39,390
is I'm not saying that it's
actually happening or that it's

1336
01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:42,030
rolling out this way. But this
was, you know, I understand.

1337
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:46,170
This is the only thing that they
had left because it was not

1338
01:23:46,170 --> 01:23:49,410
working. No one cared. Now at
least we have and they got to

1339
01:23:49,410 --> 01:23:51,870
hurry. Now something has to
happen now because in three

1340
01:23:51,870 --> 01:23:55,620
days, you know, we already have
hundreds of people dead in

1341
01:23:55,620 --> 01:23:58,650
Syria, you know, it's going to
shift and no one will care. You

1342
01:23:58,650 --> 01:24:03,300
know, Miki, she's, my wife is so
smart. She was in the, in the

1343
01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:08,370
tsunami, the Christmas tsunami
of 2005, or six, whatever it

1344
01:24:08,370 --> 01:24:14,040
was, she was in Sri Lanka. And,
and, you know, this is a very

1345
01:24:15,390 --> 01:24:19,200
horrible experience. And, you
know, 1000s How many people died

1346
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,620
in that 1000s 1000s and 1000s
from all countries around the

1347
01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:27,720
world? And she says, you know,
10 days later, no one fucking

1348
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:33,300
cared. No one talked about it
anymore. You know, so, so they

1349
01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:35,580
gotta act. They gotta move. They
gotta go fast, fast.

1350
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:38,430
And by the way, we keep
forgetting what this is really

1351
01:24:38,430 --> 01:24:39,000
all about.

1352
01:24:40,140 --> 01:24:47,310
Yes, Snowden. Gotcha. All right.
Here's the last Brzezinski clip

1353
01:24:47,310 --> 01:24:50,130
and then I want more of a wind
it up. This is what he basically

1354
01:24:50,130 --> 01:24:51,720
what he's saying. F Russia.

1355
01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:55,170
I would say that we're not
starting the Cold War. He has

1356
01:24:55,170 --> 01:24:59,730
started it but he has gotten
himself into a horrendous jam. I

1357
01:24:59,730 --> 01:25:03,780
stopped Long as I suspect that a
lot of people in Russia, even

1358
01:25:03,810 --> 01:25:07,230
not far away from him, who are
worried that Russia status in

1359
01:25:07,230 --> 01:25:10,560
the world is dramatically being
undermined that Russia is

1360
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,480
economically beginning to fail.

1361
01:25:12,510 --> 01:25:14,880
You hear now that she he's in
line with Hillary, where we

1362
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,550
started off with all the stock
market is down. Oh, it's

1363
01:25:17,550 --> 01:25:19,620
failing. Yeah, it's all bad.
It's horrible

1364
01:25:19,650 --> 01:25:23,040
that Russia is threatened by the
prospect of becoming a satellite

1365
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:23,700
to China.

1366
01:25:23,730 --> 01:25:27,090
I like that. That's what we want
satellite to China that Russia

1367
01:25:27,090 --> 01:25:27,180
is

1368
01:25:27,180 --> 01:25:30,870
becoming self isolated and
discredited. I think there is

1369
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:34,380
still may be a chance that you
can reverse course, we have to

1370
01:25:34,380 --> 01:25:39,030
emphasize adoption, and failing
that, do what is necessary, and

1371
01:25:39,060 --> 01:25:41,670
at the same time trying to deal
with the other problems on our

1372
01:25:41,670 --> 01:25:46,230
own if we can, what is the
alternative to let war break

1373
01:25:46,260 --> 01:25:49,410
out? In Europe? Yes, Russia
belong to the Baltic states from

1374
01:25:49,410 --> 01:25:54,750
new acts such as these can be
ignored. Is that the choice?

1375
01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:56,310
Yes. That's the test the
leadership?

1376
01:25:56,340 --> 01:25:59,010
Yes, yes, yes. I know what's
gonna happen.

1377
01:25:59,970 --> 01:26:03,240
Okay, I, you okay. There's only
there's

1378
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,990
only one possible way. And it's
kind of cool that the Dutch

1379
01:26:07,020 --> 01:26:10,470
just, you know, they finally had
that court case settled about

1380
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:14,070
the Dutch battalion and saying,
yes, you know, they were

1381
01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:17,520
responsible for the death of at
least 300 men in several

1382
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,250
Nietzche. The Dutch bad Of
course, part of the blue

1383
01:26:20,250 --> 01:26:24,390
helmets, the peacekeeping forces
of the United Nations. This is

1384
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:28,800
Bosnia Herzegovina, this is
Serbia. This is this has blue

1385
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,070
helmet peacekeepers written all
over it. And if there's any

1386
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:35,550
problems, just like Bill Clinton
will send some missiles up your

1387
01:26:35,550 --> 01:26:41,160
ass. Some intercontinental
ballistic missiles, cruise

1388
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,290
missiles were the crew crew, I
thought that oh, we just

1389
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:45,450
launched those other ones.

1390
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:55,230
And that is, and that is exactly
what our president is good at. I

1391
01:26:55,230 --> 01:26:59,220
have two words for you. Predator
drones. Exactly. So there'll be

1392
01:26:59,220 --> 01:27:01,350
drones because little easier now
it's cheaper. We got those

1393
01:27:01,350 --> 01:27:05,490
things lined up and ready to go.
That is the only outcome and

1394
01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:10,320
Russia will go along with it. By
the way, I don't think they can

1395
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,720
veto. A blue helmet force. I
don't think the UN Security

1396
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,630
Council I don't think the vetoes
work that way. I'm a little

1397
01:27:18,630 --> 01:27:19,380
unclear.

1398
01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:23,040
Well, we can look that up. i All
I know is that they've got you

1399
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,690
know, Putin is like pretty cool.
If you're uncertain. Putin is

1400
01:27:27,690 --> 01:27:31,440
very cool as a cucumber as it
were, during this whole thing,

1401
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:34,770
at least he seems so but he must
be just seething. I must be

1402
01:27:34,770 --> 01:27:39,870
pissed. Because he's being set
up. Of course, my theory is

1403
01:27:39,870 --> 01:27:43,170
because of Snowden. It wasn't
for Snowden. None of this would

1404
01:27:43,170 --> 01:27:44,430
be happening. But it's just

1405
01:27:45,810 --> 01:27:48,420
I'm pretty sure that the gas has
a little more to do with the

1406
01:27:48,420 --> 01:27:51,720
John Hillary Clinton has been
talking about it since 1932.

1407
01:27:52,890 --> 01:27:54,270
No, you can think what you want.

1408
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,800
Well, Joe, wind it up on a high
note with a professor Cohn?

1409
01:27:59,250 --> 01:28:03,300
Yes, please put the argument now
is the strategic argument is

1410
01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:07,080
that Putin can in this, this is
preposterous. I mean, you're a

1411
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:11,250
historian, I'm a historian. This
is a profoundly complicated,

1412
01:28:11,550 --> 01:28:14,610
political, social. If tomorrow,
Putin went on Russian and

1413
01:28:14,610 --> 01:28:18,450
Ukrainian television and said
guys in eastern Ukraine, put

1414
01:28:18,450 --> 01:28:22,320
down your arms. You really think
he would do it? Do you really

1415
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,200
think they wouldn't add?
Moreover, and this is the

1416
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:31,380
salient point. At the end of
June, France, Germany, our

1417
01:28:31,380 --> 01:28:35,280
allies, and Russia, asked the
President of Ukraine to continue

1418
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,880
the ceasefire. So that could be
negotiations, the government of

1419
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,450
Ukraine did not and intensify
the war with the backing of

1420
01:28:42,450 --> 01:28:45,780
Washington. So we are deeply
complicit in the horrors that

1421
01:28:45,780 --> 01:28:50,010
are going on there. Now, the
light is maybe this tragedy will

1422
01:28:50,010 --> 01:28:52,650
bring about a ceasefire where
people can talk again,

1423
01:28:52,980 --> 01:28:56,490
and we shall see. But it is true
the only people who can stop

1424
01:28:56,490 --> 01:29:07,980
this are Kerry Kagan Nudelman
crystal a whole ban until they

1425
01:29:07,980 --> 01:29:11,400
have what they want, which is
complete control over all the

1426
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,580
resources which gives them not
only control over Russia's

1427
01:29:14,940 --> 01:29:21,120
financial pipeline, but control
over Europe's electricity. They

1428
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:28,230
will not rest until they have
that and they will have the

1429
01:29:28,230 --> 01:29:34,620
United Nations blue helmet
peacekeepers in there to protect

1430
01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:38,280
everything and make sure there's
order and it will it will be

1431
01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:42,420
it's Bosnia Herzegovina it's the
same tactic.

1432
01:29:46,140 --> 01:29:51,450
But I could have been a dry run
for this. You have to say this

1433
01:29:51,450 --> 01:29:57,480
is pretty sophisticated. Pretty
some pretty good. I would do

1434
01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:00,690
want to mention one more thing
before we get before Use is

1435
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,450
grabbed on. Yeah, I'm done. But
I want to play one more thing

1436
01:30:03,450 --> 01:30:06,300
just to make sure that they they
watch this reminders of this

1437
01:30:06,300 --> 01:30:11,190
this really funny play the they
brought, they keep bringing this

1438
01:30:11,190 --> 01:30:15,210
up as kind of a as a sidebar,
which is that we'll just blow

1439
01:30:15,210 --> 01:30:18,180
stuff out of the sky. We don't
ever make any excuses for it.

1440
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,920
The image the clip is the MH 17
previous incidents

1441
01:30:24,210 --> 01:30:29,400
on July 3 1988, an Iranian
airliner with 290 people on

1442
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,510
board and route from Turan to
Dubai, but it was shot down over

1443
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:38,190
the Persian Gulf by a missile
fired from a US Navy ship. The

1444
01:30:38,190 --> 01:30:42,450
USS Vincenz had been exchanging
gunfire with Iranian gunboats

1445
01:30:42,450 --> 01:30:47,190
that day, and mistakenly took
the A 330 Airbus for an Iranian

1446
01:30:47,190 --> 01:30:52,320
fighter jet. And five years
before that, in September 1983,

1447
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:57,900
a Korean passenger plane with
269 on board was shot down by a

1448
01:30:57,900 --> 01:31:02,130
Russian fighter jet after it
accidentally strayed into then

1449
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,910
Soviet airspace. The Soviet
government first denied

1450
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:06,540
involvement.

1451
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:12,150
Now, of course, they remind us
about the thing we did with the

1452
01:31:12,210 --> 01:31:16,470
Iranian jet. But they're they
they've decided to rewrite

1453
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:20,070
history about that South Korean
flight Yeah, and I'm noticing

1454
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:22,590
this more and more where they
brought they're bringing it back

1455
01:31:22,590 --> 01:31:25,920
into the storyline thrown it at
the Russians again, when it's

1456
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,850
been long since establish that
that was a spy flight. Yeah,

1457
01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:32,790
illegally flying over Russia and
Russia wasn't going to put up

1458
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:33,210
when we get

1459
01:31:33,210 --> 01:31:36,060
that cool clip of Reagan. You
know, that's that's what they

1460
01:31:36,060 --> 01:31:37,350
get to play over and over again.

1461
01:31:37,380 --> 01:31:38,730
And like the Reagan clip,

1462
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:42,420
I don't have you have it now.
Oh, crap. I don't have no I

1463
01:31:42,420 --> 01:31:44,700
don't have any. That's how you
would have it. Like John will

1464
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:45,570
have that don't worry about
Yeah,

1465
01:31:45,570 --> 01:31:48,480
I didn't have it. And whatever
the case is, I know. But they've

1466
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:51,990
rewritten that that storyline. I
mean, that was the original

1467
01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:56,130
storyline, of course, because it
was fake, it was phony. And then

1468
01:31:56,130 --> 01:31:59,550
when they as things ever over
time, Ted took about 10 years

1469
01:31:59,550 --> 01:32:03,150
before realize this, this was
camera mounted on the plane, it

1470
01:32:03,150 --> 01:32:06,450
was gonna go take some pictures
of of an installation. And so I

1471
01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:10,830
purposely went into Russia,
assuming it wasn't gonna get

1472
01:32:10,830 --> 01:32:14,190
shot down because it had people
on board which is the kind of

1473
01:32:14,190 --> 01:32:18,180
the situation we're seeing with
Hamas and Palestine Well,

1474
01:32:18,450 --> 01:32:21,570
let me let me close the close
the folder here closing that out

1475
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,130
on on MH 17. And now we ought to
do is just see how it plays out

1476
01:32:26,130 --> 01:32:32,130
that got a scramble, I think I'm
pretty confident with with our

1477
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:37,890
analysis of how this took place,
and how it happened. And you're

1478
01:32:37,890 --> 01:32:42,030
right, I think Putin is gonna be
really angry. Because he someone

1479
01:32:42,030 --> 01:32:45,420
could have seen this coming
someone could have known based

1480
01:32:45,420 --> 01:32:48,330
upon those exercises some
intelligence somewhere should

1481
01:32:48,330 --> 01:32:51,000
have said oh, she's speaker
British Air and Air France knew

1482
01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:54,090
that well, they knew it was
going to happen. Yes. They knew

1483
01:32:54,090 --> 01:32:56,280
something was going to happen.
That's why they weren't flying.

1484
01:32:58,350 --> 01:33:01,800
Anyway, John, it wouldn't be
targeted in the morning to you,

1485
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:02,100
John.

1486
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,550
You Adam curry in the morning
all ships at sea boots on the

1487
01:33:05,550 --> 01:33:10,590
ground subs in the water. And
all the days and nights out

1488
01:33:10,590 --> 01:33:10,770
there

1489
01:33:10,770 --> 01:33:12,660
and in the morning to everyone
in the chat room, no agenda

1490
01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:17,970
stream.com in the morning to our
artists 20 watt bulb, creating

1491
01:33:17,970 --> 01:33:22,140
the artwork, which I liked a lot
the typewriter for episode 635

1492
01:33:22,860 --> 01:33:25,800
no engine or generator.com is
where you can submit and see all

1493
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,800
of it. We're missing a couple of
guys, Nick, the rat didn't even

1494
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,200
submit this time. Is he so
discouraged or?

1495
01:33:32,430 --> 01:33:34,650
And I think he's you know, I
think a lot of these guys just

1496
01:33:34,650 --> 01:33:35,460
burnout

1497
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,400
it does happen then sometimes
you have to burn out and then to

1498
01:33:38,460 --> 01:33:40,980
be able to come back to

1499
01:33:42,510 --> 01:33:44,820
it again concept of withdrawal
and return.

1500
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:46,650
What is that

1501
01:33:46,650 --> 01:33:50,700
the what concept coined being
Arnold Toynbee in his study of

1502
01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:51,690
history has all these

1503
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,960
historic How do I write the name
Twain beaten to

1504
01:33:55,620 --> 01:34:02,280
try and B E A N I would think
but if he says yes two E's at

1505
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,730
the end of his name so it could
be try and be e a n

1506
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:14,280
coin being you know what I hate?
I hate when Arno Arnold J.

1507
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:19,380
Toynbee? Right? I hate it when
you when you when you're used to

1508
01:34:19,380 --> 01:34:22,620
typing something into the
browser right in the title bar,

1509
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:29,820
because that will typically take
you to to Google search. But

1510
01:34:29,820 --> 01:34:32,430
then somehow Time Warner because
of course there's a new setup

1511
01:34:32,430 --> 01:34:34,800
and I gotta figure out how to
change a Time Warner then goes

1512
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,910
Oh, no, that's not a website.
Here's our search engine. You

1513
01:34:38,910 --> 01:34:42,780
get like some fucking stupid
Time Warner search. Thanks.

1514
01:34:42,780 --> 01:34:47,250
dickheads Huh, that's not gonna
help you know, I know they do

1515
01:34:47,250 --> 01:34:49,320
an hour they did. They would
have the patch into your

1516
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:49,890
browser.

1517
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:50,820
I don't know, man.

1518
01:34:51,930 --> 01:34:55,200
I don't know it was a ticket
there. Seems a bit intrusive,

1519
01:34:55,230 --> 01:34:55,680
but I think I

1520
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,250
can reject that in the browser
somewhere. Of course it's

1521
01:34:59,250 --> 01:35:04,050
intrusive. dickheads anyway, in
the morning also to our days and

1522
01:35:04,050 --> 01:35:07,620
nights, of course, thank you so
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1523
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1526
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1527
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1528
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1529
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1530
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1531
01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:48,720
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1532
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,950
I can no longer stand the stench
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01:35:53,340 --> 01:35:56,340
these except this executive
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1534
01:35:56,340 --> 01:35:59,670
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1535
01:35:59,670 --> 01:36:03,150
you just about every time you
are reading this about the time

1536
01:36:03,150 --> 01:36:05,700
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Tesla and other EVs at the Mazda

1538
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:16,620
Raceway Laguna Seca Oh, I drove
up north cool and I please get

1539
01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:22,020
an amazing bingo Boom shakalaka
and a little karma for card

1540
01:36:22,020 --> 01:36:23,670
number 33 Yeah,

1541
01:36:23,670 --> 01:36:26,070
you need to take a picture of
that thing man and do you have a

1542
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:29,550
no agenda sticker on it or
something? Yeah. Agenda stuff on

1543
01:36:29,550 --> 01:36:33,750
there this battery car powered
by no agenda karma or something

1544
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:35,640
like that. That is on

1545
01:36:42,810 --> 01:36:49,680
you've got karma thank you so
much for your triage of threes.

1546
01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:52,590
Yes and now oh

1547
01:36:54,780 --> 01:36:59,790
oh my goodness. Yes. Yes, yes.
Yes. I'm sorry. Hey, wait a

1548
01:36:59,790 --> 01:37:08,970
minute you know and I got to
figure out this is weird i don't

1549
01:37:08,970 --> 01:37:11,670
know why this happens every
single time here we go. I got

1550
01:37:11,670 --> 01:37:18,420
it. Another donation from the
USA said David

1551
01:37:30,060 --> 01:37:33,990
David Foley Sir David Foley
granduca The United States the

1552
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:40,470
Bosch San Jose California 333 33
I for it i TM from the road

1553
01:37:41,130 --> 01:37:45,420
please send me some of that in a
Karma hoping to ward off strain

1554
01:37:45,420 --> 01:37:49,410
missiles on my flight home
donating via the Pay Pal mobile

1555
01:37:49,410 --> 01:37:52,800
app so I can hope this makes it
I can so I hope it makes it

1556
01:37:52,980 --> 01:37:57,270
okay. Looking forward to pilot
Adams analysis on Sunday. Yes.

1557
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:57,930
And

1558
01:37:57,930 --> 01:38:01,560
again I will point out this is a
lot of people help with this

1559
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:08,940
analysis. And a lot of military
people and people in ew as we

1560
01:38:08,940 --> 01:38:20,160
call it in the biz. The biz
you've got karma Yes. In the

1561
01:38:20,190 --> 01:38:25,980
analysis biz we call it ew for
electronic warfare. Thank you

1562
01:38:25,980 --> 01:38:26,490
very much sir

1563
01:38:26,490 --> 01:38:30,630
David grant me interested to see
if that that particular analysis

1564
01:38:30,630 --> 01:38:33,510
which is one of your best I
would put in their top five

1565
01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:37,740
Thank you. And you did and yours
also dramatized it well,

1566
01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:41,940
an hour and a half I think I
took to get all the way through

1567
01:38:41,940 --> 01:38:42,120
it

1568
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,660
took about what a long time but
it was what it was good it

1569
01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:48,570
wasn't like you have done these
long analysis before but they're

1570
01:38:48,630 --> 01:38:51,810
no offense but occasionally they
you kind of don't know it's

1571
01:38:51,810 --> 01:38:55,200
okay. That's when you usually it
was actually always exciting.

1572
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:58,410
Well you know what's right go
ahead, move right along and had

1573
01:38:58,410 --> 01:39:03,000
a nice punch line and it wrapped
well it was it was more it was

1574
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:07,260
more it was real dramatic in the
in the way it was done without

1575
01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:08,970
it oh being corny, dramatic.

1576
01:39:09,150 --> 01:39:11,700
You know it's always so when I'm
doing these things because of

1577
01:39:11,700 --> 01:39:15,540
course I'm really only talking
to you. I'm always thinking

1578
01:39:15,570 --> 01:39:17,700
because I of course I can't see
you this has no weight and it's

1579
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:20,520
not a video show. And I'm always
thinking oh is he rolling his

1580
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,640
eyes is do I hit today? Did I
hear him shuffled Is he gonna

1581
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,850
say oh this is boring move on
with it. That's my fear which I

1582
01:39:26,850 --> 01:39:31,830
will do I of course you will
which I'll skip this clip I am

1583
01:39:31,830 --> 01:39:33,660
performing actually for you.

1584
01:39:33,810 --> 01:39:36,720
Well yeah, for each other we do
this is what we do. This way the

1585
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,600
show works is like the two of us
you you tend to hit more of

1586
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,680
these than I do. Sometimes I can
top you with one with the law

1587
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,370
since I'm a bottom I like that
but that's fairly that's not

1588
01:39:47,370 --> 01:39:50,580
possible with something like
this because this is too much

1589
01:39:50,580 --> 01:39:53,700
work was put into it unless I
had somebody given me a call the

1590
01:39:53,700 --> 01:39:56,970
day before instance, hey, here's
what really happened. Which has

1591
01:39:56,970 --> 01:40:00,780
not happened. Nobody does that.
All our analysis Which is why

1592
01:40:01,020 --> 01:40:04,320
we're kind of safe from prying
eyes is all done with public

1593
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:09,000
domain information. Anyone? Hold
on. Hello? Hello. Hey, man,

1594
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:14,460
here's what's happening. Yeah.
No, no, tell me

1595
01:40:14,490 --> 01:40:18,240
it's got information man. New
shit has come to light.

1596
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:22,500
That's where we get. So so it's
not like you know we this is

1597
01:40:22,500 --> 01:40:23,730
anyone could do this

1598
01:40:23,790 --> 01:40:27,060
yeah in fact journalists
sometimes get paid to do this.

1599
01:40:27,150 --> 01:40:30,150
Yeah, we do it's a crazy world
and

1600
01:40:31,110 --> 01:40:33,540
they get paid more we do but we
do get paid by people like

1601
01:40:33,540 --> 01:40:38,340
Thomas butter. Rick in Dayton,
Ohio who sent a check in and a

1602
01:40:38,340 --> 01:40:42,510
note Oh, handwritten note. And
he has got a dozen it's not like

1603
01:40:42,510 --> 01:40:46,320
long handed but it's printed but
he's got this. He's like either

1604
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,650
an architect you're not the way
certain people are. They print a

1605
01:40:49,650 --> 01:40:52,620
certain kind of a block letter
that is very slick looking that

1606
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:56,250
you'd find either on a cartoon
bubble or in an architectural

1607
01:40:56,250 --> 01:41:02,700
drawing. Yeah, that's what he's
got. Oh, cool. Dear is Tana Anna

1608
01:41:02,940 --> 01:41:06,780
and Jane. Anna in January, you'd
be Anna.

1609
01:41:07,410 --> 01:41:09,060
We accepting these names is
this.

1610
01:41:09,269 --> 01:41:12,029
I don't care for 333 33 Yes, go

1611
01:41:12,030 --> 01:41:13,290
ahead. You can call me bitch.

1612
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,850
I'd like to make a birthday
donate. Oh, you gotta write this

1613
01:41:17,850 --> 01:41:20,700
down now. Sorry. Oh, boy. My
birthday do I would have

1614
01:41:20,700 --> 01:41:22,110
actually been sent this they are
but

1615
01:41:22,170 --> 01:41:25,740
I just know I needed a pen and
paper for the show. Yes.

1616
01:41:26,010 --> 01:41:30,300
I like to make a birthday
donation in honor of my Deutsch

1617
01:41:30,300 --> 01:41:30,900
bag.

1618
01:41:33,090 --> 01:41:36,030
I don't have a jingle for
Deutsch bag bow. He

1619
01:41:36,030 --> 01:41:40,410
said given the douche bag. He
must be some reason. He'll be 30

1620
01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:45,060
on the 19th. He and his wife
just had their first human

1621
01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:49,620
resource. And I'm sure his
donations will be diverted to

1622
01:41:49,620 --> 01:41:52,980
diapers. And what's knops?
What's his sanity?

1623
01:41:53,010 --> 01:41:54,090
What is his brother's name?

1624
01:41:54,510 --> 01:41:59,100
I'm trying to find it. My plan
to call him on stage for my

1625
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:05,490
niece's college fund went down
in flames. They can subsidize

1626
01:42:05,490 --> 01:42:08,400
his exact executive producers
ship to the best podcast in the

1627
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:13,440
universe. Many birth my Happy
Birthday scumbag. He hit me in

1628
01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:18,990
the mouth and in December and I
haven't forgiven him since. Keep

1629
01:42:18,990 --> 01:42:23,100
up the stellar work. Night
there's no there's no new

1630
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:26,400
mention of his name. He's just
Samuel Samuel he mentioned right

1631
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,400
the beginning. Oh, is Deutsche
Bank brother Samuel

1632
01:42:29,460 --> 01:42:34,260
is no it's Deutsche bags.
Deutsche Bank scumbag brother

1633
01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:37,950
Samuel? Yeah. Who turned 30 on
the 19th. Okay. Yeah,

1634
01:42:38,340 --> 01:42:41,220
I had again he wants a request
he's got he wants a little girl

1635
01:42:41,220 --> 01:42:46,410
Shut up slavery Italian version.
Oh, god, you're Kiki. And then a

1636
01:42:46,410 --> 01:42:47,610
jingle of your choosing.

1637
01:42:47,790 --> 01:42:52,230
Okay, so little girls Shut up
Italian. Then a

1638
01:42:52,290 --> 01:42:55,770
by the way, I have to say one
more thing. Sure. He has got a

1639
01:42:55,770 --> 01:42:59,070
signature that I should scan in
and Sandy just to look at it is

1640
01:42:59,070 --> 01:43:02,460
like it's very hard. This has
got to be an architecture and

1641
01:43:02,460 --> 01:43:08,070
this is a very artistic scribble
is like wow, I don't know how

1642
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:13,020
you can even do what he did.
Expect more handwritten letters

1643
01:43:13,020 --> 01:43:19,050
from Thomas Butterick in Dayton,
Ohio. All right. So we want to

1644
01:43:20,490 --> 01:43:31,080
slave that's it the scalpel Shut
up already. Science Oh, safety.

1645
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,260
This is Liberty calling. Off
douche bag.

1646
01:43:36,690 --> 01:43:39,360
You've got karma is one of my
favorites.

1647
01:43:41,970 --> 01:43:47,610
I like that one. Okay. Anonymous
from Brooklyn to 65 Seven UBS

1648
01:43:47,610 --> 01:43:53,310
Associate Executive Producer for
show 636 Sending confirmation my

1649
01:43:53,310 --> 01:43:58,560
first knighthood and placing
myself 33% along a second one

1650
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,220
requesting general karma for you
guys. And then for myself double

1651
01:44:02,220 --> 01:44:05,490
karma please, sir anonymous from
Brooklyn after the knighting

1652
01:44:05,490 --> 01:44:10,320
ceremony, please give. Please
keep up the great analysis and

1653
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,680
do not despair for the doldrums
of summer. When it comes to

1654
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:19,470
donations. We're all still here,
listening, listening, listening

1655
01:44:19,470 --> 01:44:20,910
and sometimes donating

1656
01:44:21,330 --> 01:44:25,410
all right, and we will be
crowning. These are the SIR

1657
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:28,080
anonymous from Brooklyn and our
knighting ceremony later Thank

1658
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:31,440
you very much. You have double
karma for you. You've got karma

1659
01:44:31,470 --> 01:44:32,130
got karma.

1660
01:44:34,500 --> 01:44:38,190
Emily Ballinger in Santa
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1661
01:44:38,190 --> 01:44:40,890
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1662
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1666
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1668
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:07,350
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or website on a website they're

1669
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:09,240
gonna save us from the Masters
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1670
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,090
wife is so sexy said walking
around and black hot pans

1671
01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:16,110
Tatiana and Anna please save us
from the evil masters Let's

1672
01:45:16,110 --> 01:45:20,730
unite for world peace. And
there's you got Josh's he's the

1673
01:45:20,730 --> 01:45:23,790
crazy Chantix chick she
apparently Chantix

1674
01:45:23,820 --> 01:45:27,540
Oh really? She was. Oh, she's
the crazy Chantix kid. Check.

1675
01:45:27,540 --> 01:45:27,960
Yeah. Oh.

1676
01:45:29,010 --> 01:45:30,840
Well, she didn't ask her any.
But I think we should give her

1677
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:31,380
some karma.

1678
01:45:31,410 --> 01:45:34,740
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. The
websites pretty interesting.

1679
01:45:35,580 --> 01:45:42,000
You've got and does that
conclude our broadcast day, Mr.

1680
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:42,780
Dvorak.

1681
01:45:42,810 --> 01:45:46,560
And that concludes our small
list of contributors for the

1682
01:45:46,590 --> 01:45:51,360
producers ships. Na show 636 Go
to Dvorak. That org slash Andy,

1683
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:56,160
we do have a show coming up on
Thursday. Today, Sunday. As I

1684
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,190
recall, yeah, I've worked out
org slash na channel

1685
01:45:59,190 --> 01:46:02,790
devora.com/na. That no agenda
show and the no agenda nation

1686
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:05,700
websites both have buttons you
can push

1687
01:46:05,730 --> 01:46:09,600
and these are actual credits
executive producer and Associate

1688
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,690
Executive producer credits. You
can use them wherever credits

1689
01:46:12,690 --> 01:46:15,720
are accepted. And unlike the
douchebags in Hollywood, we will

1690
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,230
gladly vouch for you if someone
ever questions the validity of

1691
01:46:19,230 --> 01:46:25,170
your producer.org/n A obviously
we always need people to be out

1692
01:46:25,170 --> 01:46:27,630
there doing the work of
propagating our formula.

1693
01:46:28,140 --> 01:46:32,850
Our formula is this. We go out
for people in the mouth

1694
01:46:45,390 --> 01:46:51,570
I'm in deep trouble, John. Okay,
good. And I'm not I got to share

1695
01:46:51,570 --> 01:46:54,540
this with you come in do
somebody spoofing you? Well, you

1696
01:46:54,540 --> 01:46:57,630
know, I lived in Jersey, right.
For many years. My daughter was

1697
01:46:57,630 --> 01:47:00,990
born in Georgia. Yeah. Do you
have a Google alert set up for

1698
01:47:00,990 --> 01:47:06,030
yourself? No, I don't have her.
And so I had I guess I set one

1699
01:47:06,030 --> 01:47:10,290
up a long time ago, but nothing
ever comes through ever. A well

1700
01:47:10,290 --> 01:47:13,620
once in a while. There's some
basketball player, some kid and

1701
01:47:13,620 --> 01:47:18,450
like, like a college player
whose name is Adam curry. And

1702
01:47:18,450 --> 01:47:20,010
you know, and then the kids are
awesome.

1703
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:23,340
But that's about Amos Stefan
curry out here in the world. But

1704
01:47:23,340 --> 01:47:23,820
Adam

1705
01:47:23,820 --> 01:47:27,060
curry. Okay, we're talking about
Adam curry. Okay, so I get a

1706
01:47:27,060 --> 01:47:32,670
loan Google alert, yesterday.
And here's I'd like you to go to

1707
01:47:32,670 --> 01:47:36,900
the Google's and I will give you
and I want you to Google these

1708
01:47:36,900 --> 01:47:46,410
three words. Ready? Yeah. Adam
curry heroin. Okay. And what do

1709
01:47:46,410 --> 01:47:49,260
you get? Why?

1710
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:55,800
Oh, sorry. I'm on the I'm on a
I'm on the I'm using the

1711
01:47:59,460 --> 01:48:03,750
are you on the repeater? I'm on
the repeater on the D star but

1712
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:04,350
he try New

1713
01:48:04,350 --> 01:48:07,740
Jersey brothers face gun drug
charges. Yeah, that would be it.

1714
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:10,050
It's Brian curry and Adam curry.
Yes.

1715
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:13,470
The brothers two brothers from
Wayne, New Jersey arrested for

1716
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:16,260
heroin, multiple gun and drug
charges. I'm going to be on a

1717
01:48:16,260 --> 01:48:21,540
list. Probably you've been on a
list before. It's just not good.

1718
01:48:22,230 --> 01:48:23,610
And it looks nothing like me.

1719
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:26,130
Now they look like Hispanics.

1720
01:48:27,150 --> 01:48:30,570
But how I mean how does one Who
names their kid Adam curry. This

1721
01:48:30,570 --> 01:48:32,400
is not good as me.

1722
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:35,100
You are Adam curry. And you

1723
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:36,780
wouldn't think there'd be a
whole bunch of other Adam

1724
01:48:36,780 --> 01:48:38,310
Curry's roaming around.

1725
01:48:38,580 --> 01:48:41,700
They're probably starting to
grow up now. So you were what

1726
01:48:41,700 --> 01:48:44,670
age when you were famous.

1727
01:48:45,540 --> 01:48:47,760
From my 19 through my.

1728
01:48:48,780 --> 01:48:50,520
What year was this? Let's go
back that way.

1729
01:48:50,670 --> 01:48:54,240
I started in television in the
Netherlands. And while I was

1730
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,790
famous from the radio pirate
radio No,

1731
01:48:56,790 --> 01:49:00,030
no, no, no, I'm talking about
MTV United States famous MTV

1732
01:49:00,030 --> 01:49:05,970
famous 1987. Okay, so 1987. So
if we add, say people Oh, Adam

1733
01:49:05,970 --> 01:49:10,770
Caruso? Gorgeous. Let's name our
kid Adam curry in 1987. It would

1734
01:49:10,770 --> 01:49:15,660
have been born through probably
1987 to 1990. And that means

1735
01:49:15,660 --> 01:49:18,390
there are now 39 children. Yeah,

1736
01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:21,270
but here's here's what I don't
get. So you have the last name

1737
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:23,880
curry. Right. That's possible.
Lots of people named curry,

1738
01:49:24,150 --> 01:49:29,070
Indian people. And, and then you
you have a kid? And like, what

1739
01:49:29,070 --> 01:49:30,570
are we going to call them? I
don't know. It's good to look at

1740
01:49:30,570 --> 01:49:34,800
some names. Let's call them
Adam. Any other famous Adams?

1741
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,570
That's what you go look for,
wouldn't you?

1742
01:49:38,490 --> 01:49:41,250
That'd be you. Yeah, but it's
Oh, it's exactly right in the

1743
01:49:41,250 --> 01:49:42,390
ballpark. Yeah. Oh,

1744
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:46,470
that's great. Well named after
the VJ. Who does that? Well,

1745
01:49:47,250 --> 01:49:51,960
apparently people who raise
heroin. Thank you answered your

1746
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:58,800
own question. Exactly.
Meanwhile, Adam curry

1747
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,740
physiotherapy. is a business.
Yeah, okay.

1748
01:50:02,190 --> 01:50:08,010
We had one of our producers was
in town yesterday. Okay, I think

1749
01:50:08,010 --> 01:50:12,570
it was rich Lightner I think
Rich lightning Lightner I think

1750
01:50:12,570 --> 01:50:16,830
he's the guy who who donated for
his grandson. But then he

1751
01:50:16,830 --> 01:50:18,000
screwed up the date

1752
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,100
memory game a

1753
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:23,760
fiasco it was well it was more
of a fiasco because apparently

1754
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,640
then after I read his note,
which we're not supposed to

1755
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:31,710
read, but it was so funny. And
then we corrected his mistake

1756
01:50:31,710 --> 01:50:34,440
and then instead of calling the
kid Harrison I called the kid

1757
01:50:34,440 --> 01:50:39,240
Harold Arason the kids for nice
Harrison. We call them Harold

1758
01:50:41,130 --> 01:50:44,040
was like this daughter hates him
nothing has died and it did run

1759
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:50,640
away to Austin. Okay, well
that's it. I don't think there's

1760
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:51,840
anything else going on? Yes,
there's

1761
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,710
something Nachi something we're
overlooking. Now, there's plenty

1762
01:50:55,710 --> 01:50:58,590
of stuff unfortunately need to
be talking about PVS I've been

1763
01:50:58,590 --> 01:50:59,520
writing it down.

1764
01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:04,050
But I don't have all the
articles handy but the here's

1765
01:51:04,050 --> 01:51:06,390
what it is really, really want
to talk about this. I find it

1766
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:10,380
kind of tedious and boring. But
okay, we there are guidelines.

1767
01:51:10,830 --> 01:51:12,900
Do we put it in the book?
Alright, so here I'm gonna

1768
01:51:12,930 --> 01:51:19,650
Google it right now. NPR under
writer guidelines. Okay. These

1769
01:51:19,650 --> 01:51:24,240
are the guidelines talked about
this. No, we talked about this

1770
01:51:24,330 --> 01:51:30,960
off the show off the show. Okay.
And here's I have the PDF. The

1771
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,970
guidelines for underwriting so
when you hear support for this

1772
01:51:35,970 --> 01:51:39,510
program is brought to you by is
provided by and then they're

1773
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:42,690
only supposed to say the name of
the underwriter but these days,

1774
01:51:43,020 --> 01:51:46,140
it's so much more like do they
provide the best service but the

1775
01:51:46,140 --> 01:51:50,460
guidelines actually are. The
underwriting credits must

1776
01:51:50,460 --> 01:51:53,610
contain this for NPR, the legal
name of the underwriter to be

1777
01:51:53,610 --> 01:51:56,700
read immediately after the
standard opening phrase support

1778
01:51:56,700 --> 01:52:00,990
for NPR comes from NPR member
stations. And that's

1779
01:52:00,990 --> 01:52:03,420
interesting. I have to say
member stations so we just go to

1780
01:52:03,420 --> 01:52:08,070
a a random NPR story and just
listen to how they do their

1781
01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:09,780
support thing. Mr. Bobby,

1782
01:52:10,050 --> 01:52:11,400
you could do that. Okay, so

1783
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:15,420
let me just find a random one.
This is the Monty Python

1784
01:52:15,420 --> 01:52:20,130
reunions show I'm just grabbing
a random story. Oh crap I don't

1785
01:52:20,130 --> 01:52:25,050
have it plugged in do I was okay
well no it's not okay. This is

1786
01:52:25,050 --> 01:52:27,330
why I didn't want to do the
story because I'm not ready for

1787
01:52:27,330 --> 01:52:29,730
it because the other we have no
production elements.

1788
01:52:30,660 --> 01:52:35,790
Well, once you read the Why
don't you read it? I don't have

1789
01:52:35,790 --> 01:52:38,190
it in front of me you have it
right there you can google it

1790
01:52:38,190 --> 01:52:40,770
this is a one to one thing in
there that got me was they're

1791
01:52:40,770 --> 01:52:42,990
not supposed to do an ad and
it's not supposed to have call

1792
01:52:42,990 --> 01:52:47,070
for action. So I'm listening to
Wait Wait Don't tell me which is

1793
01:52:47,070 --> 01:52:50,460
a show I listened to on the way
to the post office on Saturdays

1794
01:52:50,460 --> 01:52:57,630
when I go get the mail. Do you
have a clip? No. So I drive down

1795
01:52:57,630 --> 01:53:00,750
I'm just like moving it along
since you want to get this story

1796
01:53:00,750 --> 01:53:03,750
out of the way and I didn't get
a clip that's the real reason.

1797
01:53:04,350 --> 01:53:06,780
But whatever the case I'm
listening and they have a one

1798
01:53:06,780 --> 01:53:10,890
800 number that they deliver.
Well isn't that a call to action

1799
01:53:10,890 --> 01:53:13,710
when you give somebody a one 800
Number or even a weightless?

1800
01:53:13,710 --> 01:53:14,100
Listen

1801
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:16,800
let's listen I have Wait Wait
Don't tell me and this would be

1802
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,890
the most recent one I presume.
Let's see if they this is the

1803
01:53:19,890 --> 01:53:25,530
web so this is not really soured
starts

1804
01:53:25,559 --> 01:53:30,119
prevent PR and web easy Chicago
this is Wait Wait Don't tell me

1805
01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:35,549
the NPR News Quiz. I'm tender
loving anchor Manville Curtis.

1806
01:53:35,819 --> 01:53:37,169
And here's your host.

1807
01:53:37,740 --> 01:53:39,000
They don't have a sponsor
they're

1808
01:53:39,809 --> 01:53:42,149
well they're not giving them I
maybe would be an it. It's not

1809
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:44,759
on the web. I don't know when
they do it whatever the case is,

1810
01:53:44,759 --> 01:53:47,549
they give a call to action with
it from me. It just seems to me

1811
01:53:47,549 --> 01:53:51,029
they're abusing. It's not enough
that they get free money from

1812
01:53:51,029 --> 01:53:54,059
the government and then they get
corporations to give them the

1813
01:53:54,059 --> 01:53:56,369
money and then they beg for
money. So credits

1814
01:53:56,370 --> 01:54:00,450
may also include the following
non promotional value neutral

1815
01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:06,510
descriptions of organization
products and services to non

1816
01:54:06,510 --> 01:54:10,200
promotional value neutral names
of operating divisions and

1817
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,740
subsidiaries organization
mission language that identifies

1818
01:54:13,740 --> 01:54:17,820
and does not promote or state
and opinion established slogans

1819
01:54:17,820 --> 01:54:22,080
verbatim that identify and do
not promote non promotional

1820
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:27,270
location information. So, they
are allowed to use phone number

1821
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:32,340
or website address duration of
time and business and mention of

1822
01:54:32,340 --> 01:54:36,000
particular NPR programming
supported credits may not

1823
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:41,130
contain promotional language
including qualitative language

1824
01:54:41,370 --> 01:54:44,460
which would be favorable
qualities benefits and claim the

1825
01:54:44,490 --> 01:54:48,660
best that's right that is a do
that well comparative language

1826
01:54:48,660 --> 01:54:53,160
like leader largest the only
exclusive rank number one that

1827
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:56,250
is not allowed price and value
information not allowed.

1828
01:54:56,790 --> 01:55:00,660
inducement language reward
programs warranty He's portions

1829
01:55:00,660 --> 01:55:03,990
of purchase donated to charity
vehicle donation programs which

1830
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:08,640
by the way I hear all the time
on NPR holiday mentions related

1831
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:12,510
to sales of products see this?
I'm going to stop this because

1832
01:55:12,510 --> 01:55:15,210
this is this would be a good
segment if I had some examples

1833
01:55:15,210 --> 01:55:15,720
of them

1834
01:55:15,810 --> 01:55:18,960
breaking now from now we'll work
on examples I just wanted to

1835
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:20,070
clear it off the deck

1836
01:55:20,130 --> 01:55:26,430
yeah and PBS is even more
stringent so yeah, is a dumb

1837
01:55:26,430 --> 01:55:28,620
idea. Syria

1838
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,180
Syria Yeah, why not? How is that
more interesting?

1839
01:55:34,110 --> 01:55:39,030
Syria. Okay, you gonna be Syria
you go then.

1840
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,890
Oh, well, you know, you're gonna
be flat footed. Thanks. Very

1841
01:55:43,890 --> 01:55:44,310
funny.

1842
01:55:44,340 --> 01:55:48,390
Screw it. Agenda 21. This was
coming but certainly

1843
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:51,900
controversial to Australia's
Senate has voted to scrap the

1844
01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:55,080
country's tax on carbon
emissions. The abolition of the

1845
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:58,620
tax was one of the main pillars
of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's

1846
01:55:58,650 --> 01:56:02,610
election campaign. Last year,
Australia is one of the world's

1847
01:56:02,610 --> 01:56:06,600
biggest carbon emitters per head
of population. And critics say

1848
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,070
the move is a backward

1849
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:14,910
step. And you voted to scrap the
tax in September last year. And

1850
01:56:14,910 --> 01:56:19,830
today the parliament finally
listened. Today the tax that you

1851
01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:25,410
voted to get rid of is finally
gone. A useless destructive tax

1852
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,790
which damaged jobs which hurt
families cost of living and

1853
01:56:29,790 --> 01:56:33,900
which didn't actually help the
environment is finally gone.

1854
01:56:36,630 --> 01:56:38,670
Well, there you go. In no time
it is

1855
01:56:38,670 --> 01:56:42,480
possible. Yeah. That's pretty
impressive. But the

1856
01:56:42,510 --> 01:56:45,450
the Australian public was always
against that and they hated

1857
01:56:45,450 --> 01:56:47,640
what's her name for putting it
in play? Because she promised

1858
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:48,300
not to.

1859
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:53,580
Yeah, she said no way and that
Yeah. Good lord. Good lord. Good

1860
01:56:53,580 --> 01:56:57,180
Lord. And then she face planted
herself. Remember that? That was

1861
01:56:57,180 --> 01:57:01,710
cool. I was the funniest. I
have.

1862
01:57:01,740 --> 01:57:05,190
I won't do a historical thing.
Okay. You remember when we first

1863
01:57:05,190 --> 01:57:07,980
picked up on the 33 meme? Oh, my
goodness.

1864
01:57:12,150 --> 01:57:13,920
No, I don't long time.

1865
01:57:13,950 --> 01:57:17,880
Well, it has to be after 2009
Because here's a clip from the

1866
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:22,980
show in 2009. And you'll see why
obviously, we had not picked up

1867
01:57:22,980 --> 01:57:25,860
on it yet. But it's funny how it
itched its way in anyway.

1868
01:57:26,339 --> 01:57:29,909
And and it's just loud. It's
just just loud music. And yeah,

1869
01:57:29,909 --> 01:57:33,239
there's all kinds of cool people
around the lights are dim. And

1870
01:57:33,239 --> 01:57:35,729
then you have to go and then
there's two elevator banks. If

1871
01:57:35,729 --> 01:57:40,829
you're going to the 33rd floor
then you have to walk around the

1872
01:57:40,829 --> 01:57:44,729
original elevator bank and get
on there. If not, you have to go

1873
01:57:44,729 --> 01:57:48,299
around and bind that elevator
bat elevator bank to another

1874
01:57:48,299 --> 01:57:52,229
elevator bank until you finally
get up to your room. What I

1875
01:57:52,229 --> 01:57:54,599
don't remember this story at
all.

1876
01:57:55,710 --> 01:57:59,460
You were talking about your stay
at the W Hotel in New York. You

1877
01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:02,880
were in New York at the time of
this podcast. And you were

1878
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:06,330
bitching about the 33rd floor
being where you have to change

1879
01:58:06,330 --> 01:58:10,770
elevators and you never said
anything about 33 and I have to

1880
01:58:10,770 --> 01:58:14,280
assume now that the 33 meme that
we picked up on came came after

1881
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:17,430
that okay, that makes sense. How
did you did it now? You didn't

1882
01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:19,500
actually go through the archives
of all of our shows. Did

1883
01:58:19,500 --> 01:58:23,490
you I am going through the
archives of a set of shows. No

1884
01:58:23,490 --> 01:58:25,170
you're not yes I am

1885
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,100
taking me a while I'm going
through this board I mean do you

1886
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:32,250
have time on your hands? Only
for shows that I'm looking at do

1887
01:58:32,250 --> 01:58:35,040
you have the mumps or measles
and you have nothing better I'm

1888
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,120
looking for

1889
01:58:36,390 --> 01:58:40,980
now get you if you want to fair
warning Israeli moon base

1890
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:50,100
no way you cannot find it I said
Moon bases I said space

1891
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:52,500
elevators but I never said
Israeli ma'am

1892
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:57,300
I can I go look yeah, you are
you archive this lot of cool

1893
01:58:57,300 --> 01:58:59,340
stuff that you have obviously
you're gonna forget most of this

1894
01:58:59,340 --> 01:59:00,960
because this was 2009

1895
01:59:01,050 --> 01:59:03,660
Episode one what is the episode
number

1896
01:59:03,690 --> 01:59:06,270
I don't not gonna say because I
don't want you isolating this

1897
01:59:06,270 --> 01:59:08,070
and then somehow screwing with
the archives.

1898
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:10,980
It's episode 133 good event

1899
01:59:10,980 --> 01:59:15,120
there's another 33 Interesting
do we get other kind of funny

1900
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:17,850
stuff from this episode trip
play my favorite one was

1901
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:19,560
what are we doing
retrospectives?

1902
01:59:20,250 --> 01:59:24,960
Oh God. Okay, this is okay, I'll
just play the I have two of

1903
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:28,860
these only play one. This is the
best clip algae

1904
01:59:34,170 --> 01:59:35,820
the old the old the best clip

1905
01:59:35,820 --> 01:59:39,750
okay this Yes. I was looking for
a T got it. Just blank we're

1906
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:44,250
doing here with the folder
General Motors with the the new

1907
01:59:44,250 --> 01:59:48,510
battery storage the hybrids. We
drove on a car the other day.

1908
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:54,630
Congressman Inslee in Israel and
I drove went from California to

1909
01:59:54,630 --> 02:00:00,660
Washington DC. Remember this on
algae? On algae. You know how

1910
02:00:00,660 --> 02:00:05,970
you grow the algae, you pump a
bunch of co2 in it, and it grows

1911
02:00:05,970 --> 02:00:12,780
the algae. So here you have an
opportunity to learn to make

1912
02:00:12,780 --> 02:00:18,240
cars that run on algae, grow the
algae in places like Ohio that,

1913
02:00:18,990 --> 02:00:21,660
unfortunately, or maybe
fortunately, at some point, give

1914
02:00:21,660 --> 02:00:26,550
off all this co2, grow the
algae, put it in cars, and we

1915
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:31,470
have a clean economy. We are
completely safe.

1916
02:00:31,710 --> 02:00:35,100
That's right. And my car, I'm
gonna go fill up on some algae

1917
02:00:35,130 --> 02:00:36,360
right after the show.

1918
02:00:38,130 --> 02:00:41,100
Anyway, this show this show
we're doing here I want to

1919
02:00:41,100 --> 02:00:44,790
remind people is filled with
this sort of thing. Non stop. We

1920
02:00:44,790 --> 02:00:47,220
do have been doing it for seven
years, and we have nothing but

1921
02:00:47,220 --> 02:00:50,760
clips like this. And when you go
back and listen to it, even

1922
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:52,680
though that I think the old
shows you shouldn't be listening

1923
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:56,400
to. But I just want to remind
the algae story. That's what

1924
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:59,100
happened. That's 92,009 We
should everything should have

1925
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:00,240
been fixed by now.

1926
02:01:00,780 --> 02:01:03,600
It should be running on algae.
It wasn't it wasn't that Bill

1927
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:05,670
Gates. Who was that again? I
forget. No, no,

1928
02:01:05,670 --> 02:01:09,240
that was I forgot who it was.
But he was he was some identity

1929
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:12,180
problem is I don't have the red
book in front of me to go down

1930
02:01:12,180 --> 02:01:15,240
to sometimes identifications in
the book. Right. But it was some

1931
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:17,490
guy who had been floating around
some congressmen and they were

1932
02:01:17,490 --> 02:01:20,610
gonna fix everything. And they
came with his algae car. I

1933
02:01:20,610 --> 02:01:23,100
remember and by the way, the
stock that was mentioned, he

1934
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:23,370
wrote

1935
02:01:23,370 --> 02:01:24,930
me buddy drove with somebody

1936
02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:28,080
and drove with some congressmen,
right. Coast to coast.

1937
02:01:28,650 --> 02:01:31,740
That's hilarious. Anyway, that's
it. Yeah. That you know what?

1938
02:01:31,740 --> 02:01:34,800
Carry on. Good work.

1939
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,820
Yes. Well, I'll probably have
another one of these. As I go

1940
02:01:38,820 --> 02:01:41,520
through it. You know, it's
tedious to listen to the show.

1941
02:01:41,730 --> 02:01:45,150
For me, I did this show. This is
the problem. When you do a show

1942
02:01:45,510 --> 02:01:47,610
to go listen to the show. And
then you get it. You find the

1943
02:01:47,610 --> 02:01:50,700
certain annoyances that we're
calling you back. Yeah, yeah, I

1944
02:01:50,700 --> 02:01:53,880
have five years ago. And then
you go, Ah,

1945
02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:58,560
I find I can barely listen to
myself. Even right after the

1946
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,130
show, just editing. I have a
problem with it. Yeah, and then

1947
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:04,620
No, it's It's people don't
really understand. It's very

1948
02:02:04,620 --> 02:02:05,160
annoying.

1949
02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:09,300
It's annoying and difficult.
Yeah. Because you know what's

1950
02:02:09,300 --> 02:02:13,320
coming. And back back then in
2009, when we were doing the

1951
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:17,460
show, yeah, there was a leg that
we had blatancy issues.

1952
02:02:17,490 --> 02:02:23,370
Oh, crap. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And
you would have to time all your

1953
02:02:23,370 --> 02:02:27,090
jokes differently. And then once
when we solve the latency issue,

1954
02:02:27,090 --> 02:02:29,040
then all your jokes suck,
because you are still on the

1955
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:29,550
lag.

1956
02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:33,390
Exactly. You notice, oh, by the
way,

1957
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:39,480
a correction I would like or not
correction, a confirmation. And,

1958
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:46,200
actually, I need to numb number
of people sent this to me, that

1959
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,870
it was indeed, Harry Reid,

1960
02:02:50,940 --> 02:02:57,990
who spoke of the five white men
who had who did the for the

1961
02:02:57,990 --> 02:03:00,120
Hobby Lobby case, here it is,
you know,

1962
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,970
we have so much to do this
month. But the one thing we're

1963
02:03:02,970 --> 02:03:07,260
going to do during this work
period, sooner rather than

1964
02:03:07,260 --> 02:03:13,470
later, is to ensure that women's
lives are not determined by

1965
02:03:13,470 --> 02:03:14,910
virtue of five white men.

1966
02:03:15,030 --> 02:03:22,050
And indeed, Clarence Thomas is
very confused. Because I looked

1967
02:03:22,050 --> 02:03:26,250
at the at the opinion from the
New York Times the paper record,

1968
02:03:26,250 --> 02:03:30,210
and it was for white guys and
one black guy, not five white

1969
02:03:30,210 --> 02:03:30,690
guys.

1970
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,810
Yeah. Well, there you have it.
So Harry, we read doesn't know

1971
02:03:33,810 --> 02:03:36,960
what he's talking about. I have
an email I have to read. Because

1972
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:42,240
I have to discuss this with you.
Okay. This came in from a guy

1973
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:50,670
who is a mic See, bitching about
the harmonica not bitching about

1974
02:03:50,670 --> 02:03:52,590
my playing the harmonica
harmonica

1975
02:03:52,590 --> 02:03:54,810
as an instrument in general or
No, no,

1976
02:03:54,810 --> 02:03:57,780
here's what he says. And this is
what concern me Okay. Would you

1977
02:03:57,780 --> 02:04:01,590
please consider retiring the
harmonica from the show? And

1978
02:04:01,590 --> 02:04:04,770
this is the reason is not
because I suck at it. But okay,

1979
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:10,590
it is painfully loud. I listened
to the show on my commute using

1980
02:04:10,590 --> 02:04:13,110
earbuds which is illegal in most
states, I might add, you

1981
02:04:13,110 --> 02:04:15,570
shouldn't be less you should be
listening to your speakers, and

1982
02:04:15,570 --> 02:04:19,710
frequently at highway speeds. So
he's got a turned way up. I want

1983
02:04:19,710 --> 02:04:22,230
to keep listening to the show,
but I don't want to suffer

1984
02:04:22,230 --> 02:04:27,990
hearing damage in the process.
Okay. Now, are we just a

1985
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:30,930
harmonica coming in over mic
two? What's the deal because I'm

1986
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:33,540
up against a mic playing well,

1987
02:04:33,570 --> 02:04:36,840
let me answer this. Do you know
when sometimes we have a

1988
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:40,680
technical issue and or you know
something's not working? I'm

1989
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:42,840
trying to fix it and then you
will sometimes play the

1990
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:46,230
harmonica and then I usually
wind up saying stuff I can go

1991
02:04:46,230 --> 02:04:48,300
into that and something like
that. Yeah, that's what you

1992
02:04:48,300 --> 02:04:51,540
usually do. It's because the
sound of the harmonica is so

1993
02:04:51,540 --> 02:04:56,820
piercing and I think if you
could, can you do like a Stevie

1994
02:04:56,820 --> 02:04:59,220
Wonder or Ray Charles thing with
your hand? Well, whoa, whoa,

1995
02:04:59,220 --> 02:05:03,540
whoa, whoa, like that. Little
bit of like a cover up. I need

1996
02:05:03,540 --> 02:05:04,440
you need to back off.

1997
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:10,320
Like I'll wait for the mic right
back off. How about pointing the

1998
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:13,320
harmonica sound board away from

1999
02:05:13,410 --> 02:05:16,710
life? Anything anything?
Anything,

2000
02:05:16,740 --> 02:05:21,000
please It's me. This guy hates
me obviously and let me read on

2001
02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:24,660
all right. Oh, there's more. Oh
boy, I did he go he's got the

2002
02:05:24,660 --> 02:05:31,020
harmonica thing out of the way
his bitch about the harmonica is

2003
02:05:31,020 --> 02:05:34,440
done. So he says he's decided
he's got the email and might

2004
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:37,500
have my attention which he did.
So he decides to complain more.

2005
02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:38,940
Oh, so he says

2006
02:05:38,970 --> 02:05:40,920
this guy donate or?

2007
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:45,210
I don't know. I doubt I think he
did. Okay, I can't I don't have

2008
02:05:45,210 --> 02:05:49,950
his number fine. Also, I don't
know if it should stick with

2009
02:05:49,950 --> 02:05:54,990
showbiz talk there. But you are
quite insultingly dismissive of

2010
02:05:55,050 --> 02:06:02,580
Adam at times. Clearly this
isn't a problem to Adam says

2011
02:06:02,580 --> 02:06:06,090
flip the page or he would have
said something to you about it.

2012
02:06:06,150 --> 02:06:09,540
Is this. Is this a letter or an
email because you flip any page

2013
02:06:09,570 --> 02:06:10,620
as you printed it out?

2014
02:06:10,889 --> 02:06:15,209
Yes. Okay. But to a producer
like me, so he does contribute.

2015
02:06:15,719 --> 02:06:20,609
You come off as a complete dick.
I thought you were supposed to

2016
02:06:20,609 --> 02:06:23,039
be the Buzzkill. Not the
asshole.

2017
02:06:26,490 --> 02:06:27,270
Can I comment?

2018
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:30,360
Then he goes, these are my only
two complaints. And aside from

2019
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:33,120
those two points, I have this
show I look forward to this

2020
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:35,250
great show. Anyway,

2021
02:06:35,460 --> 02:06:41,550
so first of all, thank you for
your, for your courage of

2022
02:06:41,550 --> 02:06:47,040
writing that letter to young.
No, in fact, I was having so we

2023
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:50,670
had our producer rich and his
buddy Jim in town yesterday and

2024
02:06:50,670 --> 02:06:54,420
they actually they snuck up on
us at the market. We were back

2025
02:06:54,420 --> 02:06:57,600
at the awesome market doing our
groceries. And I hear in in the

2026
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:00,870
morning, like okay in the
morning and it's funny, Mickey

2027
02:07:00,870 --> 02:07:04,440
immediately felt very drawn. Oh,
this these are good guys should

2028
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:08,940
have coffee with him. And Rich
and Jim are both professors,

2029
02:07:08,940 --> 02:07:13,110
both lawyers and they are
librarians and I think Rich runs

2030
02:07:13,110 --> 02:07:17,190
the legal library in the
University of Lincoln, Nebraska.

2031
02:07:17,580 --> 02:07:23,190
And Jim runs the legal library
in the University of Virginia

2032
02:07:23,220 --> 02:07:27,150
was it what's a college they're
University

2033
02:07:27,150 --> 02:07:31,020
of Virginia? No no no different
Richmond University of Richmond

2034
02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:31,260
home

2035
02:07:31,260 --> 02:07:34,110
No, it's like boys and girls
will will and Smith or

2036
02:07:34,110 --> 02:07:34,650
something.

2037
02:07:34,980 --> 02:07:37,500
Oh well let me William and Mary
William and Mary Yes.

2038
02:07:37,740 --> 02:07:43,140
So these are these like these
like educated dudes right? And

2039
02:07:44,250 --> 02:07:48,210
dudes and oh, that's cool.
Because you know I'm I'm a law

2040
02:07:48,210 --> 02:07:51,780
group because oh yes. And by the
way 80% of the time you're right

2041
02:07:51,780 --> 02:07:55,560
on the money, which is a huge
compliment of course, for me

2042
02:07:55,560 --> 02:08:02,010
just being like a groupie of
law. And and you know, and rich

2043
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:06,510
Jim's not a listener not yet but
riches. And he is he loves you.

2044
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:11,070
He's like, Oh man, I used to I
would buy every magazine John

2045
02:08:11,070 --> 02:08:15,930
wrote in back when hard drives
are made of wood. And sometimes

2046
02:08:15,930 --> 02:08:18,420
I throw the magazine out when
even read the rest only read

2047
02:08:18,420 --> 02:08:22,020
John's column but he said he
said what you guys have is some

2048
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:27,180
magical formula. And it's true
which only happens once the

2049
02:08:27,180 --> 02:08:30,810
second time in my lifetime. I
had a radio partner in the early

2050
02:08:30,810 --> 02:08:36,090
80s ad before yeah gone on and
on does exactly so you're being

2051
02:08:36,090 --> 02:08:39,030
dismissive this is exactly what
Yes, exactly what exactly what

2052
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:39,420
was it that

2053
02:08:39,420 --> 02:08:42,720
was being a dismissive dick and
because I've heard this story so

2054
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:43,620
many times

2055
02:08:43,650 --> 02:08:47,190
and what is interesting is I
actually need that in a partner.

2056
02:08:47,220 --> 02:08:49,050
I need someone to be dismissed.

2057
02:08:49,470 --> 02:08:53,490
Yeah, no, I let me just say
this. I do too. I even though I

2058
02:08:53,550 --> 02:08:56,430
as a writer, you can't read I
have co written with people and

2059
02:08:56,430 --> 02:08:59,100
I can do it. I don't mind doing
it. And I like collaboration

2060
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:01,500
I've always been good at it I
like working that's why I like

2061
02:09:01,500 --> 02:09:04,650
working in media because most
media works better with

2062
02:09:04,650 --> 02:09:08,130
collaboration two guys working
together even though you have to

2063
02:09:08,130 --> 02:09:15,300
split the money to win by the
way

2064
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,150
I think about that all the time
to see if only that fucking guy

2065
02:09:18,150 --> 02:09:20,250
was dead all the money would be
mine.

2066
02:09:20,340 --> 02:09:24,360
Yes this is a problem but it's
definitely in fact a product

2067
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:30,450
make twice as much essentially
just fell over don't really

2068
02:09:30,450 --> 02:09:32,010
split the money you get twice

2069
02:09:32,099 --> 02:09:38,159
and then there's the deep the
deep honesty that you have. Well

2070
02:09:38,159 --> 02:09:41,909
this is what people don't
understand. This program is no

2071
02:09:41,909 --> 02:09:45,359
good without that. Told that
here's here's an even real life

2072
02:09:45,359 --> 02:09:47,969
I had to learn this about John.
It takes you to it takes a

2073
02:09:47,969 --> 02:09:51,269
minute you get booed. Luckily we
have a whole country between us

2074
02:09:51,269 --> 02:09:54,029
and Skype connections. I'd had
to beat him in the face

2075
02:09:54,029 --> 02:09:59,969
sometimes. But you'll say this
stupid like, you know making our

2076
02:09:59,999 --> 02:10:03,179
really in love and we feel a
whole soulmates you so stupid.

2077
02:10:03,209 --> 02:10:07,019
This is what this John, but it's
important for the program we'd

2078
02:10:07,019 --> 02:10:09,299
never get anywhere. Otherwise
it's all just fluff. What do you

2079
02:10:09,299 --> 02:10:11,879
want two people jerking each
other off. We are the Lennon and

2080
02:10:11,879 --> 02:10:16,259
McCartney, podcasting people. We
are the Simon and Garfunkel of

2081
02:10:16,259 --> 02:10:18,899
radio. But also,

2082
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:24,000
that was one way of looking at
it. So I had two encounters. Now

2083
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:26,610
that you mentioned go in the
morning thing. I had one in the

2084
02:10:26,610 --> 02:10:31,320
post office on yesterday, a guy
catches me opening the mailbox

2085
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:34,200
and you know, we gave it in the
morning. He says,

2086
02:10:34,230 --> 02:10:36,930
Hey, was he wearing American
flag patches?

2087
02:10:37,050 --> 02:10:40,230
I just looked like some guy from
the area. Okay. But he, you

2088
02:10:40,230 --> 02:10:43,260
know, was apparently a listener.
But then the other one, which

2089
02:10:43,260 --> 02:10:52,350
was last week, I went to Fry's.
Yeah. And a guy. Indian. I might

2090
02:10:52,350 --> 02:10:57,630
ask, Oh, yeah. You are talking
about me being? Yeah, well, he

2091
02:10:57,630 --> 02:11:00,090
didn't have an Indian accent,
which I couldn't talk that but

2092
02:11:00,090 --> 02:11:04,620
he said, You are you are you.
You know one of those. John, I

2093
02:11:04,620 --> 02:11:09,840
love your stuff. I love the no
agenda show. And so meanwhile,

2094
02:11:09,870 --> 02:11:13,080
Eric does Sheila's shows my
daughter, Eric, of course, every

2095
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:17,010
time this happens, he is talking
about rolling your eyes. Right,

2096
02:11:17,010 --> 02:11:19,710
right. And then he's like, got
that look on his face. And he's

2097
02:11:19,710 --> 02:11:20,700
just rolling his eyes. How

2098
02:11:20,700 --> 02:11:23,460
about Jay does she go oh, God,
someone someone actually cares

2099
02:11:23,460 --> 02:11:26,580
about my dad. Oh, my God, I'm
horrified. It's like die. Like I

2100
02:11:26,580 --> 02:11:28,740
like the earth to open up and
I'd like to fall into a hole

2101
02:11:28,740 --> 02:11:29,460
right now.

2102
02:11:29,730 --> 02:11:32,820
She doesn't really know. She's
pretty cool. She's gotten over

2103
02:11:32,820 --> 02:11:36,150
that. Okay. But But anyway, so
So this guy is going on and on.

2104
02:11:36,300 --> 02:11:40,500
And then I said, I said, I said,
I said you're you get irked by

2105
02:11:40,500 --> 02:11:44,220
Mike and hounding the Indians in
India, mostly for being cheap

2106
02:11:44,340 --> 02:11:48,090
skates. Yes. And he says, oh,
yeah, that's right. You do that?

2107
02:11:48,090 --> 02:11:50,580
I said, but you're an American.
You're an Indian. It's American

2108
02:11:50,580 --> 02:11:53,730
Indian, or Indian American. So
you wouldn't count in that

2109
02:11:53,730 --> 02:11:57,690
complaint? Is Oh, yeah, yeah,
that's good. And then I said,

2110
02:11:57,690 --> 02:12:01,260
what you really got Eric going?
I said, Show, can we get a

2111
02:12:01,260 --> 02:12:01,950
discount?

2112
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:06,210
Excellent.

2113
02:12:06,330 --> 02:12:10,500
Good. The guy says, The guy
says, I never got his name. The

2114
02:12:10,500 --> 02:12:15,630
guy says, No, I Oh, wait, no,
there is an employee discount?

2115
02:12:15,630 --> 02:12:19,590
Oh, no, wait, there's all the
products that fries apparently

2116
02:12:19,590 --> 02:12:23,220
some of them are discountable on
the spot. And I think those are

2117
02:12:23,220 --> 02:12:26,640
the ones that they have on
Amazon that are cheaper because

2118
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:29,550
they price claims to be able to
match prices. Oh, oh, that's

2119
02:12:29,550 --> 02:12:32,160
great. So we went to get
something I said, Give me you

2120
02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:35,190
have a card. He says, oh, no,
I'll go get it back. Go Go get

2121
02:12:35,190 --> 02:12:38,850
it. And then I said, and I'll
get you the discount. And then

2122
02:12:38,850 --> 02:12:42,120
he just disappeared from the
face and never came back. Just

2123
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:42,360
gone.

2124
02:12:42,660 --> 02:12:46,920
Is this our tech segment? Is it?
No, I think so. Is there? Is

2125
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:47,880
there a new phone out?

2126
02:12:49,650 --> 02:12:51,930
Let me think. No,

2127
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:55,560
no. Then there's no tech news,
Dan. No tech jam it. Although I

2128
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:59,520
did find out something cool
yesterday. Cool. Wow, cool.

2129
02:12:59,580 --> 02:13:02,190
Interesting. Okay, so we're in

2130
02:13:02,190 --> 02:13:04,680
the new house. So I have a theme
for this tech segment.

2131
02:13:05,700 --> 02:13:09,270
We need a jingle. Yes, please.
And it has to contain the

2132
02:13:09,270 --> 02:13:12,300
following elements. Is there a
new phone out? No. There's no

2133
02:13:12,300 --> 02:13:17,220
tech news. That's basically it.
Although I was reading Mike

2134
02:13:17,220 --> 02:13:22,950
alguns, Google Plus posts and
there's a huge problem with the

2135
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:23,820
wearables.

2136
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,480
Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. The
wearable

2137
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:30,210
apparently doesn't know when
you're in the movie theater. And

2138
02:13:30,210 --> 02:13:33,750
it lights up all the time. So
he's got his watch and he's

2139
02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:36,510
like, beaming all this light and
couldn't turn it to put his

2140
02:13:36,510 --> 02:13:38,160
watch in his pocket.

2141
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:42,270
A solution to this that's easier
than the watch in the pocket.

2142
02:13:42,330 --> 02:13:45,810
Don't wear the stupid watch size
that that's number one. But

2143
02:13:45,810 --> 02:13:46,230
number two

2144
02:13:46,230 --> 02:13:50,370
gaffer tape. It's your go to
thing gaffer tape.

2145
02:13:50,490 --> 02:13:53,550
gaffers tape is the greatest
product ever invented really?

2146
02:13:53,550 --> 02:13:53,760
You

2147
02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:56,670
can fix a broken limb with
gaffer tape. You could Yeah,

2148
02:13:56,670 --> 02:13:59,310
it's like you got a bullet one
gaffer tape that you got. You

2149
02:13:59,310 --> 02:14:01,110
got to I got rear ended the
other day.

2150
02:14:02,700 --> 02:14:04,770
Did you fix the good bumper with
gaffers tape I

2151
02:14:04,770 --> 02:14:09,120
have to because you know so I'm
turning left here I'm on the new

2152
02:14:09,540 --> 02:14:12,000
go into the house where the in
the early in the morning because

2153
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:16,200
the Time Warner guys come in and
it just rain and when it just

2154
02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:18,990
rains in Texas is just like it
rained in California. You know

2155
02:14:18,990 --> 02:14:23,100
what's going to happen? It
people slide around. Yep. And so

2156
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:25,590
I'm waiting to go left. I'm in
the left hand lane click click

2157
02:14:25,620 --> 02:14:29,130
click click and then and of
course I have my foot on the

2158
02:14:29,130 --> 02:14:31,980
brake and it was a pretty good
one. I feel ASO crapped on ran

2159
02:14:31,980 --> 02:14:35,190
into me. So I hop out. And the
first thing I always say is Are

2160
02:14:35,190 --> 02:14:38,100
you okay, man? I said and I'm
looking at myself. I'm okay. You

2161
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:41,550
know, I'm a you okay? And this
car is destroyed. I mean, it's a

2162
02:14:41,550 --> 02:14:46,620
little Toyota thing. It's an old
like 2000 The hood is you know,

2163
02:14:47,010 --> 02:14:53,670
like, pop tent. There's fluid
leaking. And to Mexican top out.

2164
02:14:54,300 --> 02:14:57,930
I'll say it. And it's funny
because I told my guy here is

2165
02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:03,360
Mexicans, is he Oh, And I look
into my rear bumper is is, I

2166
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:06,750
mean now it's not It's dented
his truck, you know, so it's not

2167
02:15:06,750 --> 02:15:12,330
horrible, but it's ugly now. And
the left tailpipe, the connector

2168
02:15:12,330 --> 02:15:15,720
is broken. And I'm like, oh,
it's all man, I can fix this for

2169
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:18,600
you I can come I said wait a
minute, says I got no insurance

2170
02:15:22,590 --> 02:15:26,310
like okay, he says, I just
bought the car and all I got is

2171
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:31,110
$200 you got $20 cash? Yeah,
I'll take it. I took $200 off of

2172
02:15:31,110 --> 02:15:36,000
them. It's good. You're right.
Yeah, cash get out of here.

2173
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:41,250
Anyway, I wasn't gonna say, Oh,
yeah. So now the only thing we

2174
02:15:41,250 --> 02:15:45,090
had to do is hang up the TV. And
I can do a lot of things. But

2175
02:15:45,090 --> 02:15:48,360
I'm really not good with the
stud finder. And the and just

2176
02:15:48,360 --> 02:15:50,220
the brackets isn't this is not
what I do.

2177
02:15:50,310 --> 02:15:53,580
Right? You have to find a stud
to hang up a TV. Yeah, and you

2178
02:15:53,580 --> 02:15:57,540
know, and it's the TV that we
got from David Foley. It's the

2179
02:15:57,930 --> 02:16:02,130
50 inch for a big TV. So if you
know it's gotta hang it up.

2180
02:16:02,160 --> 02:16:04,710
Not a big heavy one, though. You
know, some of some of these sets

2181
02:16:04,710 --> 02:16:05,520
are really heavy.

2182
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:09,240
You got to do that. You gotta
make it straight. And of course,

2183
02:16:09,300 --> 02:16:09,690
if you

2184
02:16:09,690 --> 02:16:12,450
buy one of those bracket things
that holds the GPA, I got the

2185
02:16:12,450 --> 02:16:14,100
bracket thing and everyone moves
it around

2186
02:16:14,430 --> 02:16:16,680
around all that and there's a
hole and there's actual cable

2187
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,290
hole in the wall that cute so
you won't have any cables drop

2188
02:16:19,290 --> 02:16:23,820
an eye. Yeah. And put you know,
I'm not going to do this. So and

2189
02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:27,090
then Mickey's on my case. He's
like, okay, everything's done

2190
02:16:27,090 --> 02:16:30,030
now, except for the TV and like,
Oh, shit. Yeah. So what do you

2191
02:16:30,030 --> 02:16:30,330
do?

2192
02:16:30,450 --> 02:16:32,460
I put it on a table. No,

2193
02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:37,919
I figure I called Geek Squad. Oh
God, but I google Geek Squad

2194
02:16:37,919 --> 02:16:44,549
Austin and up pops Geka to what?
Yeah, these guys have SEO Geek

2195
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:48,929
Squad. Geka to like cockatoos
shield the good. Yeah. So you

2196
02:16:48,929 --> 02:16:52,739
get in the end if you if you
Google Geek Squad, it says geek

2197
02:16:52,739 --> 02:16:58,109
get to 75% cheaper than Geek
Squad. I'm like, yeah. Nice. And

2198
02:16:58,109 --> 02:17:02,939
yeah. And a dude named Ben came
by and like 100 bucks or

2199
02:17:02,939 --> 02:17:07,049
something and spent some time
did everything perfect. Perfect.

2200
02:17:07,049 --> 02:17:12,479
Geka to never heard of them is a
stupid name. But I liked the

2201
02:17:12,479 --> 02:17:16,169
whole SEO thing where you I went
for Geek Squad and and also and

2202
02:17:16,169 --> 02:17:18,179
I was talking to the guy his
name is Chris Beard. And oh,

2203
02:17:18,179 --> 02:17:24,179
yeah, he had a beard. And he's
talking about, you know how Geek

2204
02:17:24,179 --> 02:17:28,349
Squad pays that guy's 12 bucks
an hour. But geeky too. He says

2205
02:17:28,349 --> 02:17:32,549
90% of the fee comes to the to
the guy who's doing the work and

2206
02:17:32,549 --> 02:17:37,439
they basically just paying like
a commission. Oh, yes, yes. And

2207
02:17:37,439 --> 02:17:40,109
he brought his little his little
helper and everything. So it was

2208
02:17:40,109 --> 02:17:46,319
cool. I was very impressed. And
that's your tech news. No other

2209
02:17:46,319 --> 02:17:49,979
news. Now. I have to give you
some mad as props.

2210
02:17:50,730 --> 02:17:52,650
Oh, this is weird.

2211
02:17:53,039 --> 02:17:57,779
Mad. Oh, hold on a second.
Mickey. That's not Yes. She's

2212
02:17:57,779 --> 02:18:01,259
mad now because she thinks I did
her voice which sucked.

2213
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:04,800
When did you do her voice just a
minute

2214
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:07,230
ago apparently like I said, you
know, honey, we have to do a

2215
02:18:07,230 --> 02:18:10,260
little bit TV. All right. It
wasn't

2216
02:18:10,260 --> 02:18:13,140
that bad. I didn't think so
neither Mimi gets really are

2217
02:18:13,140 --> 02:18:14,220
going to do her voice.

2218
02:18:14,370 --> 02:18:18,300
I'm sorry. I didn't I say she
looked hot in our black hot

2219
02:18:18,300 --> 02:18:21,330
pants and now I and I don't get
any Oh Thanks, honey sexist

2220
02:18:21,330 --> 02:18:26,730
Yeah, I should have gotten you
sexist pig mad props for you my

2221
02:18:26,730 --> 02:18:29,880
friend you call that you call it
early you call loud you call it

2222
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:34,470
correctly you are on you are the
the the mack daddy the bomb

2223
02:18:34,470 --> 02:18:39,720
diggity of calling Pocahontas
Liz Warren as the as the

2224
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:47,040
candidate Holy crap. I mean,
holy crap. I got two clips here

2225
02:18:47,070 --> 02:18:52,350
which are long in nature but oh
my God, John, how did you know

2226
02:18:52,350 --> 02:18:56,610
this? Are you on some committee
or something? Making banking on

2227
02:18:56,610 --> 02:18:58,200
some secret ballot committee.

2228
02:18:58,620 --> 02:19:01,170
This was this was I started
walking down Broadway.

2229
02:19:02,100 --> 02:19:04,710
Have you heard the runways? All
I've been

2230
02:19:04,709 --> 02:19:08,159
very good at picking candidates.
You are extremely active Sarah

2231
02:19:08,159 --> 02:19:11,609
Palin and before I ever heard
her Yeah. Which was the mystery

2232
02:19:11,609 --> 02:19:11,909
Did

2233
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:15,960
you did you did that I still
picked her Have you seen or

2234
02:19:15,960 --> 02:19:18,210
heard the run Liz run song?

2235
02:19:18,540 --> 02:19:19,680
Oh no.

2236
02:19:25,559 --> 02:19:33,389
American Onyx president to be a
woman. Hey babe is looking at US

2237
02:19:33,389 --> 02:19:38,849
Senator Elizabeth Warren. The
planet is warming in the power

2238
02:19:38,849 --> 02:19:45,869
shift. We need a leader who will
stand for Wall Street bullshit

2239
02:19:45,869 --> 02:19:52,379
the lobbyists grifting. Gotta
run the office and get the job

2240
02:19:52,379 --> 02:20:00,119
done. Media President President
TV Did

2241
02:20:07,230 --> 02:20:10,530
you shoot straight until the
truth that we've been chipped,

2242
02:20:10,530 --> 02:20:15,030
squeezed and hammer? People
think that the system is rigged

2243
02:20:15,030 --> 02:20:18,120
because it is. And it's
definitely stand out.

2244
02:20:19,019 --> 02:20:25,049
How good is this? And there's
pictures of people with those

2245
02:20:25,049 --> 02:20:28,619
silly election hats. That's a
run. You know, Warren for

2246
02:20:28,619 --> 02:20:31,829
president and there's a lot of
people do and this is Big John,

2247
02:20:31,829 --> 02:20:36,089
this is big, big, big. There's
money here. And she had I'm

2248
02:20:36,089 --> 02:20:36,509
sorry.

2249
02:20:36,810 --> 02:20:40,260
Well, she does have one of the
best campaign fundraising

2250
02:20:40,260 --> 02:20:40,920
organizations.

2251
02:20:41,220 --> 02:20:46,860
He was at this this came in late
last night that I saw it. This

2252
02:20:46,860 --> 02:20:50,490
is by the way, it's all under
the heading Hillary 2016. She

2253
02:20:50,490 --> 02:20:54,840
was at the Netroots Nation. You
familiar with this? Oh, yeah.

2254
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:57,420
Every year this thing happened.
What is it? What is this thing

2255
02:20:57,420 --> 02:20:58,560
this net? You

2256
02:20:58,560 --> 02:21:03,600
know, I usually watch it online
is a hit the ninth annual

2257
02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:06,510
gathering. It's usually in New
York where it was it was a

2258
02:21:06,510 --> 02:21:08,460
Detroit. Okay. Oh, we're

2259
02:21:08,460 --> 02:21:11,160
even betting Oh, court. Detroit
is where you want this all the

2260
02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:12,840
people are? Water

2261
02:21:12,990 --> 02:21:19,590
cheaper? Yeah, cheaper, is a
it's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's

2262
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:24,870
where a bunch of online
Democrats mostly go and grouse

2263
02:21:24,900 --> 02:21:28,410
and for, you know, say what
they're going to do and, and

2264
02:21:28,410 --> 02:21:32,520
they all get all jacked up about
certain, you know, grassroots

2265
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:36,600
things issues. Well, okay,
issues. So I think it was

2266
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:37,170
grassroots

2267
02:21:37,230 --> 02:21:42,660
Elizabeth Warren. I think she,
this was her speech. This was

2268
02:21:42,660 --> 02:21:45,870
the one Oh, she gave the speech.
She gave the speech. Now,

2269
02:21:45,930 --> 02:21:50,520
President Barack Obama had hope
and change.

2270
02:21:50,820 --> 02:21:55,350
Right. And he actually gave his
speech in 2004. At the

2271
02:21:55,350 --> 02:21:59,520
convention, and then he was the
elected president in 2008. So

2272
02:21:59,550 --> 02:22:03,330
his speech was by now when I saw
his speech, by the way, I did

2273
02:22:03,330 --> 02:22:06,750
the same thing in 2004. I said,
this is the next. The next

2274
02:22:06,750 --> 02:22:08,550
candidate probably the next
president, this

2275
02:22:08,580 --> 02:22:12,630
This speech is the candidate
speech. And by the way, when

2276
02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:14,760
Dave Weiner tweets that he
wanted that he'll vote for

2277
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:16,770
Elizabeth Warren Warren, then I
know that

2278
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:20,400
Oh, Vic. Yeah, yeah. Then I
know, we're all hook line and

2279
02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:21,120
sinker guy the

2280
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:27,420
way that is tech news. Huh?
That's a whiner. Dave Winer

2281
02:22:27,930 --> 02:22:30,570
said, I will vote for Elizabeth
Warren. That is tech news now.

2282
02:22:30,600 --> 02:22:35,430
And he will this is the we
believe speech. We believe it's

2283
02:22:35,430 --> 02:22:38,280
rather long, but I feel it is
worth it.

2284
02:22:39,570 --> 02:22:41,730
Because it gets boring. I'll
tell you, of course

2285
02:22:41,730 --> 02:22:44,730
you will. But you're going to
love it because she just imagine

2286
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:47,730
this. So this is the meeting,
we're going to take every single

2287
02:22:47,730 --> 02:22:51,720
issue, everything. And we're
just going to say what people

2288
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,330
want to hear by saying we
believe that. So I'll give you

2289
02:22:54,330 --> 02:23:00,240
an example. We believe that
children should not be smuggled

2290
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,760
across the border, but they
should be helped and integrated

2291
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:09,570
with the path to citizenship.
Exam, we believe that Putin

2292
02:23:09,570 --> 02:23:14,190
should be shut up. We believe
let's let's take it home and

2293
02:23:14,190 --> 02:23:20,220
take it to a local level. We
believe that all package should

2294
02:23:20,220 --> 02:23:20,880
be equal.

2295
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:25,290
Could I could I ask a question?
Please do? Does she have a mouse

2296
02:23:25,290 --> 02:23:30,870
in her pocket? Who's the way? Is
it the royal way?

2297
02:23:30,900 --> 02:23:36,030
Oh, it's the progressives. She
says it's time for real

2298
02:23:36,030 --> 02:23:38,250
progressive issues. Should we
just play and

2299
02:23:38,490 --> 02:23:39,390
play play play?

2300
02:23:39,450 --> 02:23:44,370
We have to talk about what does
it mean to be a progressive? We

2301
02:23:44,370 --> 02:23:49,320
have to talk about what does it
mean to be an American? So let's

2302
02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:55,350
spend a minute talking about
what we believe. We believe that

2303
02:23:55,350 --> 02:23:58,800
Wall Street needs tough,
stronger rules and tougher

2304
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:02,940
enforcement and we're willing to
fight for it. We're willing to

2305
02:24:02,940 --> 02:24:11,970
fight for it. We believe in
science, and that means that we

2306
02:24:11,970 --> 02:24:16,770
have a responsibility and we
will fight for it.

2307
02:24:17,250 --> 02:24:18,570
I was my favorite that.

2308
02:24:19,020 --> 02:24:20,580
sighs it a faith thing. What

2309
02:24:20,580 --> 02:24:24,450
if no Yeah, no, that's it. That
is a that is so heavy. What she

2310
02:24:24,450 --> 02:24:31,140
just said. We believe in science
IE, fuck religion. Yeah, no, of

2311
02:24:31,140 --> 02:24:34,800
course it's global warming. But
we don't we won't stand for

2312
02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:38,760
morons who believe in God or any
other faith. We believe in

2313
02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:42,930
science. Science is your
religion is this woman is

2314
02:24:42,960 --> 02:24:47,040
dangerous, tougher enforcement
and we're willing to fight for

2315
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:49,680
it. Let's listen to willing to
fight for it.

2316
02:24:49,860 --> 02:24:51,000
She scares me.

2317
02:24:53,610 --> 02:24:58,080
We believe in science. And that
means that we have a

2318
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:03,420
responsibility to protect So we
will fight for it. Oh man.

2319
02:25:03,750 --> 02:25:07,020
Don't you love that? How
everyone's going crazy? Fuck

2320
02:25:07,020 --> 02:25:09,330
your science signs.

2321
02:25:10,889 --> 02:25:13,439
You know, the funny thing is you
went out and quizzed anybody in

2322
02:25:13,439 --> 02:25:17,519
that audience about just the
simplest things like, you know

2323
02:25:17,609 --> 02:25:22,829
what, two atoms are in sodium
chloride, which would be sodium

2324
02:25:22,829 --> 02:25:27,359
and chlorine. They wouldn't get
be able to answer it that you

2325
02:25:27,359 --> 02:25:29,939
could do audiences most of these
people that are promoting

2326
02:25:29,939 --> 02:25:32,039
science and talking about
science talking a big game about

2327
02:25:32,039 --> 02:25:34,859
science, they don't know
anything. They're not complete

2328
02:25:34,889 --> 02:25:38,639
morons. They know nothing.
Anyway, play play it out and let

2329
02:25:38,639 --> 02:25:39,539
it go for a minute.

2330
02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:41,580
Hold on a second here we go.

2331
02:25:45,780 --> 02:25:50,220
We believe that the internet
shouldn't be rigged to benefit

2332
02:25:50,220 --> 02:25:55,710
big corporations. Real Net
Neutrality. We will fight for

2333
02:25:55,710 --> 02:25:58,770
he will fight for now. I'm
hooked. Now I'm like, we're all

2334
02:25:58,770 --> 02:26:03,570
gonna die. This woman is going
to kill all of us. We want. We

2335
02:26:03,570 --> 02:26:06,000
want the government to regulate
the interwebs

2336
02:26:08,910 --> 02:26:15,300
we believe that no one should
work full time and still live in

2337
02:26:15,300 --> 02:26:19,650
poverty. That means raising the
minimum wage and we will fight

2338
02:26:19,650 --> 02:26:22,620
for it. Oh, my God, fight for
it.

2339
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:26,730
I mean, you if you put all
everything in a bucket, this is

2340
02:26:26,730 --> 02:26:29,670
it. Right? She's saying just
like me, I was like, You got a

2341
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:34,230
bunch of horny, guys. I'll give
you hookers with big tents. And

2342
02:26:35,970 --> 02:26:39,210
we're gonna put in the bull job,
the will fight for it everything

2343
02:26:39,210 --> 02:26:42,270
you hit. All the way BJ all the
way.

2344
02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:51,000
And let me add to that, Oh,
please. We believe that fast

2345
02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:54,660
food workers deserve a livable
wage. And that means when they

2346
02:26:54,660 --> 02:26:58,530
take to the picket line, we are
proud to fight alongside them.

2347
02:26:59,400 --> 02:27:01,290
Because we want McDonald's

2348
02:27:07,410 --> 02:27:12,660
to bed, we believe that students
are entitled to get an education

2349
02:27:12,660 --> 02:27:17,670
without being crushed by debt.
And we are willing to fight for

2350
02:27:17,670 --> 02:27:21,000
it free school willing, free.

2351
02:27:22,470 --> 02:27:23,730
Free Nelson Mandela, we

2352
02:27:23,730 --> 02:27:29,760
believe that after a lifetime of
work, people aren't entitled to

2353
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:33,240
retire with dignity. And that
means protecting Social

2354
02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:37,440
Security, Medicare and pensions.
Oh, yeah, we'll fight for them.

2355
02:27:37,470 --> 02:27:39,060
Good slaves fight.

2356
02:27:40,200 --> 02:27:43,740
I mean, this is this is I'm
running for president speech,

2357
02:27:43,740 --> 02:27:46,080
John. Yeah. This is great.

2358
02:27:46,530 --> 02:27:50,820
Yeah, you're not bored yet? Oh,
yeah. And I mean, but it's you

2359
02:27:50,820 --> 02:27:53,040
know, it's now pretty much
checklist crap

2360
02:27:53,070 --> 02:27:55,650
is good, but it's I love the
honor of much

2361
02:27:55,650 --> 02:27:59,310
of a populist. He's actually out
flanking Hillary because Hillary

2362
02:27:59,310 --> 02:28:00,630
is the is

2363
02:28:00,990 --> 02:28:03,660
to say the water man dead in the
water. No, I

2364
02:28:03,660 --> 02:28:08,910
know that. But she is the sage
secretary of state that has the

2365
02:28:08,910 --> 02:28:12,810
chops to deal understand the
world stage in ways that

2366
02:28:12,810 --> 02:28:17,400
Brzezinski does. But American
public doesn't give a crap no,

2367
02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:20,670
this is a give a crap about
this. But the Warrens this talk

2368
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:27,270
will not talk about boring
stuff. foreign policies. Whoa,

2369
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:30,060
well, the knee jerk snow

2370
02:28:35,670 --> 02:28:41,190
Oh, oh, we believe Yeah, we do,
baby. Oh, I can't believe I have

2371
02:28:41,190 --> 02:28:47,190
to say this. 2014 Oh, yeah. We
believe in equal pay for equal

2372
02:28:47,190 --> 02:28:50,220
work. To fight for it.

2373
02:28:50,220 --> 02:28:59,340
That's right. That's right. As a
broad i is good. Yep. Yep. Does

2374
02:28:59,340 --> 02:28:59,940
a lot of Yo,

2375
02:29:00,990 --> 02:29:05,520
get out of it. I love it for
that. Yep. Yep. Yep. All right.

2376
02:29:05,550 --> 02:29:10,740
We believe that equal means
equal. And that's true in

2377
02:29:10,740 --> 02:29:14,430
marriage. It's true in the
workplace. True in all of

2378
02:29:14,430 --> 02:29:17,790
America. We're willing to fight
Murca

2379
02:29:18,570 --> 02:29:22,380
and we're willing to fight for
it. You bet. You bet. Who's

2380
02:29:22,380 --> 02:29:24,600
gonna pay for this? That's why
the who's gonna pay this is

2381
02:29:24,600 --> 02:29:25,140
interesting.

2382
02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:29,940
Like we believe that immigration
has made this country strong and

2383
02:29:29,940 --> 02:29:34,800
vibrant and that means warm and
we are willing to fight. Yes.

2384
02:29:36,420 --> 02:29:37,260
Hell yeah.

2385
02:29:37,410 --> 02:29:39,330
Was audiences going nuts? Yeah.

2386
02:29:40,050 --> 02:29:46,530
They love it. She is it? almost
over? Oh, I love it. Oh, it's

2387
02:29:46,530 --> 02:29:47,460
orgasmic and

2388
02:29:47,460 --> 02:29:52,590
we believe we believe that
corporations are not people that

2389
02:29:52,590 --> 02:29:56,880
women have a right to their
bodies. We will overturn the

2390
02:29:56,880 --> 02:29:57,390
lobby.

2391
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:06,990
Supreme Court fight screwed the
Supreme Court and Hobby Lobby

2392
02:30:07,020 --> 02:30:08,970
screw the Supreme Court we're
gonna overturn it.

2393
02:30:09,689 --> 02:30:13,559
What's there to overturn this
foolish shit?

2394
02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:17,190
Well, she's your girl, man. I
know. Almost

2395
02:30:19,980 --> 02:30:28,230
right here, in this room. Right
here in this room. This is where

2396
02:30:28,260 --> 02:30:35,850
it happens. This is 21st century
democracy. This is the future of

2397
02:30:35,850 --> 02:30:41,940
America. This is where we decide
that we the people will fight

2398
02:30:41,940 --> 02:30:45,150
for what we believe in. We're
gonna do this together and we're

2399
02:30:45,150 --> 02:30:47,040
gonna win. Win

2400
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:54,240
Yes, we can. And we're gonna
win. She

2401
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:59,970
says, she we're gonna win. She
says, I'm a little shrill there.

2402
02:30:59,970 --> 02:31:04,020
I'm impressed. I'm impressed.
This will be hard to beat.

2403
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:08,580
Yep. eatable little but no, but
the Republicans won't beat it.

2404
02:31:08,580 --> 02:31:11,310
Because everybody knows this is
we're in the four years period

2405
02:31:11,310 --> 02:31:13,860
where you really don't want to
do whoever wins that selection

2406
02:31:13,860 --> 02:31:18,990
is going to be one term and out.
Show screw it up. She asked her

2407
02:31:18,990 --> 02:31:21,270
because this part is she's the
Jimmy Carter. This is the Jimmy

2408
02:31:21,270 --> 02:31:25,470
Carter moment. The last four
years and the 30 year site for

2409
02:31:25,470 --> 02:31:26,070
CMC

2410
02:31:26,070 --> 02:31:29,400
one term Jimmy Carter Yes, one
term and then who came in after

2411
02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:29,910
the Reagan

2412
02:31:29,939 --> 02:31:32,939
Reagan and then things changed
and everybody thought the

2413
02:31:32,969 --> 02:31:35,429
Democrats never get back in
again. That's exactly what we're

2414
02:31:35,429 --> 02:31:38,309
gonna see she's gonna win. And
we're gonna have our woman

2415
02:31:38,309 --> 02:31:42,359
president and she's going to be
such a screw up really gonna be

2416
02:31:42,359 --> 02:31:44,879
such a screw up that everyone's
going to be so fed up with the

2417
02:31:44,879 --> 02:31:47,519
Democrat Party and the
progressives in general, that

2418
02:31:47,519 --> 02:31:51,449
they'll roster and then some
somebody then we'll get in, but

2419
02:31:51,449 --> 02:31:51,929
who,

2420
02:31:52,109 --> 02:31:55,469
you know, the only thing that
I'm really sad about, about this

2421
02:31:55,469 --> 02:31:59,579
digital age of of the internet
and everything. And this was a

2422
02:31:59,579 --> 02:32:03,899
conversation we're having this
morning, when times were bad,

2423
02:32:03,959 --> 02:32:07,649
and I remember certainly, in my
lifetime, but nothing really

2424
02:32:07,649 --> 02:32:11,699
like the 60s, I think when we
had a lot of stuff going down,

2425
02:32:11,699 --> 02:32:15,839
we you know, we had racial
riots. We had, you know,

2426
02:32:16,319 --> 02:32:17,789
political things going on

2427
02:32:17,850 --> 02:32:21,060
National Guard, shooting kids
protesting stuff like that.

2428
02:32:21,210 --> 02:32:24,450
And of course, now we have, you
know, a Russian, you know,

2429
02:32:24,600 --> 02:32:28,260
Russian pro Russian separatist
insurgents shooting down

2430
02:32:28,290 --> 02:32:32,940
civilians, we have President
droning people we have, you

2431
02:32:32,940 --> 02:32:35,910
know, cops dressed like, not
like cops anymore, but like, you

2432
02:32:35,910 --> 02:32:40,620
know, SWAT teams and militant
militarization. And back in the

2433
02:32:40,620 --> 02:32:50,190
day, we had the art and music
and, and writing. It was it was

2434
02:32:50,190 --> 02:32:53,400
a real expression of how people
were feeling and how they were

2435
02:32:53,400 --> 02:32:57,090
thinking, you know, it's how we
got Bob Dylan, just as one small

2436
02:32:57,090 --> 02:33:01,110
example. But now with with the
with the technology in the

2437
02:33:01,110 --> 02:33:05,130
computerization, and the
application of an entire

2438
02:33:05,130 --> 02:33:08,640
generation, which is not
intended to create these are not

2439
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:15,780
tools to create it are tools to
swipe and tap and gesture. But

2440
02:33:15,780 --> 02:33:19,860
not you know, who's who writes a
novel, The Who, who's going to

2441
02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:24,360
write a novel on an iPad on a
virtual keyboard. And all of the

2442
02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:28,770
stuff that is created is just in
the cloud on Facebook and not

2443
02:33:28,770 --> 02:33:32,970
even all of your friends see it.
We have zero culture coming out.

2444
02:33:33,150 --> 02:33:37,230
No physical assets, nothing
being made. That's why no one is

2445
02:33:37,230 --> 02:33:38,220
sitting down

2446
02:33:38,580 --> 02:33:43,830
at and on top of that as JC
buzzkill Jr would point out

2447
02:33:43,830 --> 02:33:46,890
because he would be in agreement
with this is

2448
02:33:47,010 --> 02:33:50,040
thank goodness, I mean, of
course we do have some kids who

2449
02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:52,410
are awake but they're not the
majority.

2450
02:33:52,530 --> 02:33:56,460
And he says that it's 75% of the
same group is strung out on

2451
02:33:56,460 --> 02:33:57,480
Ritalin or

2452
02:33:57,510 --> 02:34:00,510
I forgotten that Oh, yes, I'm
sorry. We used to be we used to

2453
02:34:00,510 --> 02:34:03,330
get high on a little bit Hey,
man, let's talk some weed or

2454
02:34:03,330 --> 02:34:06,180
maybe we dropped some acid or
something like that. And now

2455
02:34:06,180 --> 02:34:09,990
it's it's pharmaceuticals that
you're seven years old. Oh, no,

2456
02:34:09,990 --> 02:34:13,380
no, no, I'm sorry. You You got
to wear the helmet when you go

2457
02:34:13,380 --> 02:34:17,580
out to play and then your whole
your your little business class

2458
02:34:17,580 --> 02:34:23,790
you get your Ritalin you get all
the drugs. It's a nice I'm very

2459
02:34:23,790 --> 02:34:27,990
that is what I'm actually very
sad about. You know, where is

2460
02:34:28,020 --> 02:34:31,170
there's no beauty in the world?
No one's making any what Jay Z?

2461
02:34:31,170 --> 02:34:32,550
Is he our Bob Dylan?

2462
02:34:34,320 --> 02:34:36,300
You know, it's pretty pathetic.

2463
02:34:36,330 --> 02:34:39,840
Yeah, it is. It's super
pathetic. And and what do we

2464
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:44,100
have? We have? Absolutely it's
there's nothing and I don't

2465
02:34:44,100 --> 02:34:47,220
know, I don't know. where's it
gonna go? What is gonna happen?

2466
02:34:47,970 --> 02:34:51,420
Do you I mean, is there a cycle
for this as well. We've never

2467
02:34:51,420 --> 02:34:55,260
seen this in world history where
everything is virtual.

2468
02:34:55,410 --> 02:34:58,290
Now here's the problem with the
cycle if you're going to bring

2469
02:34:58,290 --> 02:35:02,850
me into this because I've always
harping on it. We should be in

2470
02:35:02,850 --> 02:35:06,510
the middle of an extremely
creative period. Yes, this is

2471
02:35:06,510 --> 02:35:10,410
because this would reflect the
1970s. And if anyone ever talks

2472
02:35:10,410 --> 02:35:15,240
about the movies in 1970 in the
1970s the movies were very

2473
02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:22,560
experimental and old movie hacks
like people like Peters John

2474
02:35:22,590 --> 02:35:28,110
guber, or these guys they talk
about the 70s ending with the

2475
02:35:28,110 --> 02:35:31,320
80s with them where everything
became for me formulaic and the

2476
02:35:31,320 --> 02:35:35,760
studio system changed and now we
have mostly CG but there should

2477
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:38,160
be a lot of experimental stuff
going on now a lot of

2478
02:35:38,160 --> 02:35:42,960
experimental music like in the
30s when what was called Jazz

2479
02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:48,720
which is dance music was so
popular and in the 70s a jazz in

2480
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:51,600
terms of dance music dancers it
was extremely popular because it

2481
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:54,750
began with the psychedelic scene
and and all these clubs that

2482
02:35:54,750 --> 02:35:57,780
Fillmore in places like that, I
don't know maybe there is

2483
02:35:57,780 --> 02:36:04,050
something I don't think it's
Coachella right

2484
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:08,370
it's not South by and I'll tell
you that. So right even Burning

2485
02:36:08,370 --> 02:36:13,140
Man is bullshit. Now, you know,
Bernie, yeah. Yeah,

2486
02:36:13,380 --> 02:36:15,510
well, actually burning man would
be a representative of the

2487
02:36:15,510 --> 02:36:19,380
experimentation but it's not
supposed to. It just doesn't

2488
02:36:19,380 --> 02:36:21,000
seem as interesting. Well,

2489
02:36:21,480 --> 02:36:24,900
actually, I have to say, I've
never been to Burning Man so

2490
02:36:24,930 --> 02:36:29,160
that is not fair of me to
condemn it but I see too many

2491
02:36:29,460 --> 02:36:33,060
you know, hipster types now go
Burning Man. The I think it's

2492
02:36:33,060 --> 02:36:38,340
kind of ruined, but it has to go
much further than that. And to

2493
02:36:38,340 --> 02:36:41,670
me the problem really is
technology. I hate to sound like

2494
02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:45,540
the Unabomber. But it really it
has brought us nothing. The tool

2495
02:36:45,570 --> 02:36:50,040
tools are so poor for creation.
They're so poor it's all

2496
02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:54,210
consumption. Just look at your
your internet up and downlink.

2497
02:36:54,210 --> 02:36:57,090
That tells you enough right
there. And who gives a crap

2498
02:36:57,090 --> 02:37:00,120
about uplink it's all downlink.
downlink, get your Netflix

2499
02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:04,980
downlink. And we should be, we
should have an A beautiful

2500
02:37:05,340 --> 02:37:09,570
explosion. And I do get this
from you. From talks we've had,

2501
02:37:09,720 --> 02:37:12,810
we should have this explosion of
creativity of fantastic

2502
02:37:12,810 --> 02:37:15,930
beautiful things that are
representative of how people are

2503
02:37:15,930 --> 02:37:19,950
feeling. And instead somehow, we
have if we if we bitch on

2504
02:37:19,950 --> 02:37:23,940
Twitter for a second for over
140 characters, or post

2505
02:37:23,940 --> 02:37:29,430
something as sad oh, rip on
Facebook, then we're done. And

2506
02:37:29,430 --> 02:37:31,740
we'll like everyone else who did
it. And then we're done. You

2507
02:37:31,740 --> 02:37:35,760
know, it's too it's become so
easy to participate in something

2508
02:37:35,940 --> 02:37:39,360
and change your icon or your
avatar. Okay, feel better. But

2509
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:44,340
that's, that's so poor. It's
there's no richness in it.

2510
02:37:44,429 --> 02:37:48,179
I think there. I think it
exists. Because when I went to

2511
02:37:48,179 --> 02:37:52,529
last years, I was gonna go this
shirt, but I didn't manage it. I

2512
02:37:52,529 --> 02:37:56,129
went to the Adobe, they have
this big conference in Los

2513
02:37:56,129 --> 02:37:59,369
Angeles. And I went there. And
they, one of the things they do

2514
02:37:59,369 --> 02:38:06,119
between speakers, is that they
flash up a lot of art that Adobe

2515
02:38:06,119 --> 02:38:10,169
users have created, right? And
it's some of it is so advanced

2516
02:38:10,169 --> 02:38:14,669
and spectacular sure that you
look these guys up and you just

2517
02:38:14,669 --> 02:38:19,469
see pages after pages of some
outrageous quality, creative

2518
02:38:19,469 --> 02:38:24,149
stuff. But for some reason it is
it is stuck. Yeah, it doesn't

2519
02:38:24,149 --> 02:38:29,159
get I mean, when with the during
the 60s and 70s, the Paisley's

2520
02:38:29,159 --> 02:38:33,479
and the bright colors and the
long hair and all this stuff was

2521
02:38:33,479 --> 02:38:36,629
in the public domain. And it was
affecting everybody where you

2522
02:38:36,629 --> 02:38:38,399
have they get a haircut. And by

2523
02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:41,430
the way, that's another thing
that has affected us is the

2524
02:38:41,430 --> 02:38:49,290
copyright laws and the ability
to to take and change and modify

2525
02:38:49,290 --> 02:38:54,150
and morph and mix and that's
become very restrictive. I feel

2526
02:38:54,210 --> 02:38:57,540
I think that the copyright laws,
although it should be a great

2527
02:38:57,660 --> 02:39:01,710
benefit. It's just it's it's not
it's not

2528
02:39:01,830 --> 02:39:03,990
Yeah, well, I'm in total
agreement about this.

2529
02:39:04,949 --> 02:39:09,239
I'm mad about it. Actually, it
sucks. Quite honestly, the we're

2530
02:39:09,239 --> 02:39:13,919
a little bit of creativity a
little bit. I think the artists

2531
02:39:13,919 --> 02:39:19,709
who participate and there's a
lot of beautiful stuff that that

2532
02:39:19,709 --> 02:39:22,739
shows up there. I'm glad it's
all in one place, but almost

2533
02:39:22,739 --> 02:39:25,499
like no one to that server goes
away. We need some physical shit

2534
02:39:25,499 --> 02:39:28,199
boy, we need some physical
stuff. We really do.

2535
02:39:28,470 --> 02:39:32,520
Surfer goes away. Yeah, well,
that's true keeping gun.

2536
02:39:32,820 --> 02:39:36,600
I mean, what when we die, John
and I got news for newsflash.

2537
02:39:37,710 --> 02:39:41,970
It's gonna happen. Yeah, maybe
somewhere on a hard drive some

2538
02:39:41,970 --> 02:39:45,660
place there'll be a show
somewhere that someone heard of

2539
02:39:45,660 --> 02:39:49,020
these guys, but really will be
erased. They'll be nothing.

2540
02:39:49,320 --> 02:39:49,860
Well, no

2541
02:39:49,860 --> 02:39:52,320
a lot of stuff gets well you
have boards I mean, you you'll

2542
02:39:52,350 --> 02:39:54,660
you'll have IDs and right but
you don't have you know stuff

2543
02:39:54,660 --> 02:40:00,000
written on a stone tablet. But a
lot of stuff is just

2544
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,460
disappearing. I mean, this is a
problem with all media. I mean,

2545
02:40:02,460 --> 02:40:07,050
most of Milton Berle shows were
all destroyed right a lot of

2546
02:40:07,110 --> 02:40:10,320
most at Caesars stuff, which is
some of the best television ever

2547
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:13,710
produced ever. Right? All be
some of the strongest writers in

2548
02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:19,140
the country gone. Now. How does
Why wasn't this before our era?

2549
02:40:20,160 --> 02:40:24,360
Yeah, and by the way when I was
over Tech TV, and even before

2550
02:40:24,360 --> 02:40:28,080
that at CNET I had actually, cuz
I did a bunch of shows on see at

2551
02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:33,090
CNET I took all the tapes. They
were in a box. And then one day

2552
02:40:33,090 --> 02:40:35,790
I was walking around the office,
it's at Tech TV, and there was

2553
02:40:35,790 --> 02:40:40,230
all my shows in a big box giant
box. And they were on digital.

2554
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:42,870
So there's a little mentioned
this before. Yeah, yeah. And I

2555
02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:44,760
looked, I said, What's this
always go? We're gonna throw it

2556
02:40:44,760 --> 02:40:49,260
out. What? So I don't even ask
me if I wanted to take it home.

2557
02:40:49,260 --> 02:40:49,920
I took it home.

2558
02:40:49,950 --> 02:40:55,110
So I have I have u Matic tapes
for my TV, CNET stuff as you

2559
02:40:55,110 --> 02:40:59,220
matter, you ematic right. high
band see. But I also you know,

2560
02:40:59,220 --> 02:41:04,050
we did a reality show about my
family. And I have that on DVD.

2561
02:41:04,650 --> 02:41:11,340
But I also have hundreds of raw
footage. Just videotape which is

2562
02:41:11,340 --> 02:41:15,540
the eight the what are the
little DV cam? Yeah, you know,

2563
02:41:15,570 --> 02:41:18,690
and I and I'm holding on to
that, but I don't have a DV cam

2564
02:41:18,690 --> 02:41:19,590
player anymore.

2565
02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:22,440
I have to say there's a lot
process eight millimeter two,

2566
02:41:22,440 --> 02:41:25,680
there was a there's a lot of
these medias days. It's called

2567
02:41:25,680 --> 02:41:26,610
Dead media. Yeah.

2568
02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:28,710
Dead for media.

2569
02:41:28,740 --> 02:41:31,620
I mean, right now there's a
scramble. I have

2570
02:41:31,860 --> 02:41:34,260
videotapes of my daughter VHS.

2571
02:41:35,430 --> 02:41:38,220
Well, you can move that to DVD
for at least now. Yeah, but

2572
02:41:38,220 --> 02:41:41,850
there's a mad scramble in that
media world. Because the

2573
02:41:41,850 --> 02:41:43,710
original videotape

2574
02:41:43,710 --> 02:41:48,150
is its word and it's a European.
Powell.

2575
02:41:49,260 --> 02:41:51,030
Well, that's just that. Oh,
she's I don't know what you're

2576
02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:54,960
gonna do. Exactly. Anyway, the
the original videotapes that

2577
02:41:54,960 --> 02:41:58,110
went in the 60s when they first
appeared was an Ampex unit. That

2578
02:41:58,110 --> 02:41:59,400
was a two inch tape.

2579
02:41:59,430 --> 02:42:03,090
Yeah, no four inch before that
the four inches is a four

2580
02:42:03,090 --> 02:42:05,670
inches, four, and yet the four
inch and then the two inch and

2581
02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:08,430
whatever the two inch is called
BNC.

2582
02:42:08,730 --> 02:42:12,720
Okay, there's a big tape, a big
real big tape. And it's got a

2583
02:42:12,720 --> 02:42:16,830
rotating head on the player that
goes horizontally. It's not It's

2584
02:42:16,830 --> 02:42:19,860
nothing. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes,
it just goes flying around. And

2585
02:42:19,860 --> 02:42:23,430
there's only about three of
these machines left that work.

2586
02:42:23,880 --> 02:42:26,910
Yeah. And they are taking every
tape they can they can find in

2587
02:42:26,910 --> 02:42:29,970
these archives, and trying to
move them out before this, this

2588
02:42:29,970 --> 02:42:32,640
equipment just stops working.
They figured they're never

2589
02:42:32,640 --> 02:42:36,090
there's going to be ever
hundreds of tapes lost because

2590
02:42:36,090 --> 02:42:38,880
of the technology. They just
won't be able to plan because

2591
02:42:38,880 --> 02:42:42,300
there won't be no, there'll be
one machine left and maybe the

2592
02:42:42,300 --> 02:42:45,960
you know, the guy won't be able
to jazz to be done in real time.

2593
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:49,290
It's a two hour two hour tape.
You it takes an hour

2594
02:42:49,290 --> 02:42:53,400
to copy it. But anyway, so what
we need, we are going to be lost

2595
02:42:54,330 --> 02:42:59,220
kids like buzzkill Jr. and my
daughter, you know, I just

2596
02:42:59,220 --> 02:43:02,250
encourage them to make some
physical things I'd like that's

2597
02:43:02,250 --> 02:43:05,190
why I love the maker stuff. I
think that's really nice. Even

2598
02:43:05,190 --> 02:43:07,800
if it's 3d printed, you know,
that's all that's all very valid

2599
02:43:07,800 --> 02:43:11,670
and really nice. And I tell
Mickey all the time as if you're

2600
02:43:11,670 --> 02:43:14,880
making beautiful things, and
it's not just a photo that

2601
02:43:14,880 --> 02:43:17,460
you've done. I mean, it's the
paper you printed on and she

2602
02:43:17,460 --> 02:43:22,050
spent a lot of time really, you
know, with contrast and contours

2603
02:43:22,050 --> 02:43:25,350
and then the frame and the type
of glass and these are beautiful

2604
02:43:25,350 --> 02:43:28,350
objects that we need. And we've
got none of that we got shit. We

2605
02:43:28,350 --> 02:43:31,590
got Cameron Diaz movie, I watch
the other night. That's an hour

2606
02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:34,710
and a half of my life. I could
have just killed myself, Cameron

2607
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:40,560
Diaz, who I love the other, the
other woman or whatever. I mean,

2608
02:43:40,650 --> 02:43:46,020
Hollywood movies or shit is so
bad. It's so we need you, right?

2609
02:43:46,020 --> 02:43:50,640
We need new cinema. And we have
all the capabilities but where

2610
02:43:50,640 --> 02:43:52,860
are the creators? What are they
doing this in the home of

2611
02:43:52,860 --> 02:43:56,940
Facebook? I don't know what
they're doing is bad. And I'm

2612
02:43:56,940 --> 02:43:57,480
sorry,

2613
02:43:58,020 --> 02:44:00,060
Facebook, Facebook.

2614
02:44:02,730 --> 02:44:04,530
That actually is both of our pet
Sean's

2615
02:44:04,860 --> 02:44:09,960
borax diva of the day. I'm going
to show my little by donating to

2616
02:44:09,960 --> 02:44:13,200
no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do oh yeah,

2617
02:44:13,200 --> 02:44:13,920
that'd be fun

2618
02:44:22,200 --> 02:44:23,760
likely it's a short list. Yeah.

2619
02:44:24,210 --> 02:44:26,970
Luckily Hey, it's good news is a
short list Good luck.

2620
02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:30,360
Good news. We have no buddy
yeah, we only have a C seven

2621
02:44:32,160 --> 02:44:34,920
people we have like 20 People
really happy

2622
02:44:34,920 --> 02:44:37,800
we had this really pathetic that
for all the for all the the

2623
02:44:37,800 --> 02:44:40,230
amount of work that went into
this particular show. It's a

2624
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:42,300
little disheartening, but okay,
it's all right.

2625
02:44:42,450 --> 02:44:49,320
Eon Prentiss en en I got it.
Montreal, Quebec 147 2018. We've

2626
02:44:49,320 --> 02:44:52,320
got a knighthood coming up. So
given that in the second Kaylynn

2627
02:44:52,470 --> 02:44:55,290
as you all saw, he wants a
birthday list. Is he on that as

2628
02:44:55,290 --> 02:44:55,740
well when it's

2629
02:44:56,790 --> 02:44:57,870
busy? Yeah,

2630
02:44:57,900 --> 02:44:59,970
he's on the birthday list. Yep,
sorry. I'll shut up.

2631
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,110
Colin, this store in Northville,
Michigan 133 33 Is that Steve

2632
02:45:04,110 --> 02:45:09,300
Carr and red oak, Texas 12345
Joe Martin Marquette, Michigan

2633
02:45:09,300 --> 02:45:13,560
100. Somebody wrote me
complaining of that we didn't

2634
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:16,830
read their entire note. But they
you know, if we don't read, I'm

2635
02:45:16,830 --> 02:45:19,830
going to mention to people we do
you normally do not read except

2636
02:45:19,830 --> 02:45:25,050
occasionally the notes, because
we'd be on top reading notes all

2637
02:45:25,050 --> 02:45:25,350
the time.

2638
02:45:26,220 --> 02:45:28,680
We hadn't noticed a little more
structure than that. First of

2639
02:45:28,680 --> 02:45:31,380
all, the executive producers,
Associate Executive producers

2640
02:45:31,380 --> 02:45:35,280
and what that entails is on
devora.org/na, whatever they

2641
02:45:35,280 --> 02:45:38,430
request, whatever your note,
within some reason, but we've

2642
02:45:38,430 --> 02:45:41,970
had some worn piece written, but
okay, yeah, within reason we

2643
02:45:41,970 --> 02:45:44,220
read everything, do anything you
want. Because you're the

2644
02:45:44,220 --> 02:45:46,350
executive producer, or social
executive producer. We don't

2645
02:45:46,350 --> 02:45:48,840
have you know, hookers, blow
actors, actresses for you to

2646
02:45:48,840 --> 02:45:52,050
screw around with. So yes, we'll
do that. Then in our Thank you

2647
02:45:52,050 --> 02:45:55,590
segment, which is anything above
$50, because most people like to

2648
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:58,890
stay anonymous if they're under
50. But also, a lot of people

2649
02:45:58,890 --> 02:46:01,890
are on subscriptions. But you
know, we're lenient, if you have

2650
02:46:01,890 --> 02:46:06,870
something going on emails, let
us know. But we, in order to get

2651
02:46:06,870 --> 02:46:10,800
in more content, we just really
don't have the time to read

2652
02:46:10,800 --> 02:46:13,650
every single note. However, I
have noticed, if you send in a

2653
02:46:13,650 --> 02:46:16,800
check with a handwritten note
that pretty much will get read

2654
02:46:16,800 --> 02:46:17,880
anytime no matter where

2655
02:46:18,780 --> 02:46:23,670
it gets sometimes read. The
thing is, yes. The thing is, is

2656
02:46:23,670 --> 02:46:26,640
that the problem was when we
were reading we were reading all

2657
02:46:26,640 --> 02:46:30,240
the notes at $50 and up but it
was taking up almost half the

2658
02:46:30,240 --> 02:46:33,510
show because people were writing
in long winded notes and so we

2659
02:46:33,510 --> 02:46:36,870
had to put a stop to it. But
there's one note I should have.

2660
02:46:37,140 --> 02:46:39,750
I should mention but I just
saying this because I lost track

2661
02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:41,970
of that thing. He came in his
email I'll mentioned somebody

2662
02:46:42,180 --> 02:46:45,450
had a sick family member and
when it's something right you

2663
02:46:45,450 --> 02:46:45,660
have

2664
02:46:45,660 --> 02:46:49,590
it or not. I was gonna get it.
You lost it again. Good work.

2665
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:50,190
Sorry,

2666
02:46:50,220 --> 02:46:54,600
Steve car 12345 and red oak,
Texas Joe Martin in Marquette,

2667
02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:59,580
Michigan. 100. Richard Olson in
Ellensburg. Washington. One

2668
02:46:59,580 --> 02:47:03,540
hundreds. Stewart Morrison
Doncaster Victoria, Australia

2669
02:47:03,570 --> 02:47:12,180
at. Sur Rick should I got a note
from him? He's from 33

2670
02:47:12,180 --> 02:47:16,140
Arlington, Washington telling me
to call him sir Rick. And not

2671
02:47:16,140 --> 02:47:24,300
emison medullaris 666 66
Birthday call out we got that he

2672
02:47:24,300 --> 02:47:29,400
says do not get my location
which is Middle Earth. Is it Oh

2673
02:47:29,400 --> 02:47:29,610
no. He

2674
02:47:29,610 --> 02:47:33,600
wants to be referred to as pre
Night of the Living Dead. And

2675
02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:36,810
it's pre nine he has a birthday
for Morgan Bark. Bark

2676
02:47:36,840 --> 02:47:40,200
Robert gold in Toronto, Canada.
I do have a handwritten note

2677
02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:43,740
that came in and check is very
short. And over the transom

2678
02:47:43,740 --> 02:47:47,820
donation from Canada started out
as 6666 Canadian but I'd be

2679
02:47:47,820 --> 02:47:50,940
lucky if it translates to double
nickels on the dime given the

2680
02:47:50,940 --> 02:47:54,900
fixes in for our tar sands
battered Canuck buck.

2681
02:47:55,770 --> 02:47:58,770
What does this with 266 666
That's interesting,

2682
02:47:58,920 --> 02:48:02,460
but no no idea. Whatever.
There's another one Yeah, it

2683
02:48:02,460 --> 02:48:08,610
came in two in a row. Sir face a
FEMA five Chicago 5333 Randall

2684
02:48:08,610 --> 02:48:12,180
Meyers in Manassas, Virginia. We
don't have enough Virginia

2685
02:48:12,180 --> 02:48:17,310
donations if you know what I
mean. Did you 510 Joe Jana in

2686
02:48:17,310 --> 02:48:22,500
Madison, South Dakota 5220
William low rock and Locust

2687
02:48:22,500 --> 02:48:24,690
North Dakota we have a lot of
birthdays with these guys both

2688
02:48:24,810 --> 02:48:28,410
Joe and William rockin locust,
North Carolina, which I've never

2689
02:48:28,410 --> 02:48:32,820
heard of. Lucas Han and
ermington. Southwestern North,

2690
02:48:32,820 --> 02:48:38,370
South North West, whatever. NSW
New South Wales South.

2691
02:48:39,600 --> 02:48:41,790
North South west, north south

2692
02:48:41,790 --> 02:48:45,900
west to 50,020 says these are
$50 donors including Roger

2693
02:48:45,930 --> 02:48:48,120
Grigsby in Santa Cruz,
California right down the

2694
02:48:48,120 --> 02:48:51,660
street. Martine van garland last

2695
02:48:51,660 --> 02:48:55,590
more time from Holland more time
from Harlan lost

2696
02:48:55,620 --> 02:49:00,660
mundane Vonk and last in Bonita
Lou. Lou in.

2697
02:49:02,040 --> 02:49:03,960
If you just gave you just gonna
make fun of it, then you

2698
02:49:03,960 --> 02:49:06,180
know, I'm not making fun. I'm
trying to get this accent down.

2699
02:49:06,540 --> 02:49:09,300
Michael gays Colorado Springs
Colorado just because I can't do

2700
02:49:09,300 --> 02:49:12,090
it doesn't mean I'm making fun
of anything. Andrew Halverson

2701
02:49:12,090 --> 02:49:16,140
and Gravenhurst Ontario and
finally, Joe McGinnis with two

2702
02:49:16,140 --> 02:49:19,890
$50 donations, and one minute he
gave one from Dingley village

2703
02:49:19,890 --> 02:49:22,980
and then from Ringwood East both
in Victoria and that'll conclude

2704
02:49:22,980 --> 02:49:28,110
our donors list for show 636
Remind people we do have a show

2705
02:49:28,110 --> 02:49:31,290
coming up on Thursday. Like to
pick up the pace a little bit,

2706
02:49:31,290 --> 02:49:35,460
if you don't mind. And it's a
divorce.org/and a

2707
02:49:37,560 --> 02:49:39,090
little testing was done to

2708
02:49:39,090 --> 02:49:42,570
a beef with the guy over why we
don't do we should use you know,

2709
02:49:43,080 --> 02:49:45,660
I don't know why people would
ever even suggest that we use

2710
02:49:45,660 --> 02:49:51,810
Patreon it's just a it's a it's
a service. It takes your money.

2711
02:49:52,020 --> 02:49:56,490
They control your message. It's
just not what was the marketing

2712
02:49:56,490 --> 02:50:02,790
101 Don't use it. Okay, just
saying,

2713
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:05,880
Rob, I do like the whole idea of
value for value. But I also

2714
02:50:05,880 --> 02:50:09,450
don't see why you need that. I
mean, we, we have a clearing

2715
02:50:09,450 --> 02:50:13,860
house for our money as PayPal
and you check the check, it

2716
02:50:13,860 --> 02:50:14,760
works even better you

2717
02:50:14,790 --> 02:50:17,520
go to your bank, that really
cool thing, which most people do

2718
02:50:17,520 --> 02:50:20,130
that send checks and is they go
to their bank and they say I

2719
02:50:20,130 --> 02:50:22,650
want a time payment program to
this show, I want you to send

2720
02:50:22,650 --> 02:50:27,810
them $5 A month, $33 a month,
$50 a month, in some cases $50 a

2721
02:50:27,810 --> 02:50:31,050
week. And they sign it with a
bank and the bank just mails us

2722
02:50:31,050 --> 02:50:33,600
checks, and then comes out of
their account. They don't they

2723
02:50:33,600 --> 02:50:37,020
must no muss, no fuss. You can
do it for any period of time I

2724
02:50:37,200 --> 02:50:40,020
am there's Is there a charge is
no charge. Is there? No, it's a

2725
02:50:40,020 --> 02:50:41,130
bank service is that

2726
02:50:41,130 --> 02:50:48,240
if you're a good bank customer
to do it for free. Right. Okay.

2727
02:50:51,780 --> 02:50:53,160
Credit unions do it too.

2728
02:50:53,430 --> 02:50:59,520
Yes. Well, everybody, if you had
any, if you think it derived any

2729
02:50:59,520 --> 02:51:03,660
value from this program, I think
I'm not sure that you should go

2730
02:51:03,660 --> 02:51:08,670
around propagating the entire mh
17 story, because it's difficult

2731
02:51:08,670 --> 02:51:12,660
to do in a few minutes. But you
can certainly I think now

2732
02:51:12,660 --> 02:51:16,140
understand that this is really
about control and power. And it

2733
02:51:16,140 --> 02:51:20,280
is about Russia and the
resources. And you may be able

2734
02:51:20,280 --> 02:51:23,460
to use that somewhere along the
line. But you can certainly I

2735
02:51:23,460 --> 02:51:26,190
think tell people that hey, you
know, this is not just a bunch

2736
02:51:26,190 --> 02:51:31,470
of drunken jabroni and boneheads
but it also just for you know,

2737
02:51:31,470 --> 02:51:34,050
having some knowledge about
what's going on. That's really

2738
02:51:34,050 --> 02:51:37,740
what you need. Because I had the
TV on nonstop, and I got you

2739
02:51:37,740 --> 02:51:40,500
know, the setup here in the
studio. It's crazy. You're being

2740
02:51:40,500 --> 02:51:42,990
bombarded with a lot of crap.
And you really just should not

2741
02:51:42,990 --> 02:51:47,820
be watching that at all. I had
friends of ours call in tears

2742
02:51:47,850 --> 02:51:52,140
women. They just, you know, just
so upset about this, and I had

2743
02:51:52,140 --> 02:51:56,430
to talk them down. Because yeah,
well it's and these are not

2744
02:51:56,970 --> 02:51:59,820
these are not just girly women.
These are like, you know, women

2745
02:51:59,820 --> 02:52:04,170
of the world, but they just so
much of it has been thrown at

2746
02:52:04,170 --> 02:52:06,870
them. I call my daughter she's
like, ah, Dad, it's fucking

2747
02:52:06,870 --> 02:52:10,200
crazy. It's really bad.
Everyone's just you go into

2748
02:52:10,200 --> 02:52:14,490
stupid people shut down and this
is very, very bad. So turn it

2749
02:52:14,490 --> 02:52:19,080
off. Tune tune into us once or
twice a week and go outside and

2750
02:52:19,080 --> 02:52:21,270
smell the flowers or something
like that. But just remember we

2751
02:52:21,270 --> 02:52:24,450
do need help to be able to
produce all of this and to us,

2752
02:52:24,540 --> 02:52:29,340
essentially, be your armor. We
are your shield, and your

2753
02:52:29,340 --> 02:52:34,530
guardians of reality
devora.org/a.

2754
02:52:42,030 --> 02:52:45,000
Breeze sue me says Happy
Birthday to John float Schmidt

2755
02:52:45,060 --> 02:52:49,320
of Irvine who turns 30 tomorrow
that's his brother John Claude

2756
02:52:49,950 --> 02:52:53,700
Thomas Butterick says Happy
Birthday to his duich Deutsch

2757
02:52:53,700 --> 02:52:57,030
scumbag brother Deutsche Bank's
comeback brother Samuel turn 30

2758
02:52:57,030 --> 02:53:00,600
on the 19th and Prentice
celebrates his birthday today

2759
02:53:00,600 --> 02:53:04,860
free night of living dead Morgan
bark of the reelected air

2760
02:53:04,860 --> 02:53:08,850
podcast says Congratulations on
the birth of his first human

2761
02:53:08,850 --> 02:53:14,130
resource was born on July 15.
And Joe Yonah, celebrating today

2762
02:53:14,130 --> 02:53:17,070
along with William Lorac. Who
says Happy Birthday to his

2763
02:53:17,070 --> 02:53:22,800
hetero life partner Nicholas
CMRS 33 tomorrow on July 21

2764
02:53:22,800 --> 02:53:25,680
Happy birthday from all your
friends here and your guardians

2765
02:53:25,680 --> 02:53:31,650
of reality on the best podcast
in the universe. Then we got our

2766
02:53:31,650 --> 02:53:35,910
two nice things this is a nice
always happy to welcome welcome

2767
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:39,990
people to the roundtable of the
Knights and the games. There is

2768
02:53:39,990 --> 02:53:42,900
blade one this is serious
business John, where is it?

2769
02:53:43,260 --> 02:53:44,010
Right here.

2770
02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:49,710
I did have the blade luckily I
was on the last my entrance and

2771
02:53:49,710 --> 02:53:51,420
owners from Brooklyn step
forward along with the

2772
02:53:51,420 --> 02:53:53,820
apprentice both of you have
contributed to that podcast the

2773
02:53:53,820 --> 02:53:56,460
universe have no agenda showing
the amount of $1,000 or more and

2774
02:53:56,460 --> 02:53:59,460
I'm therefore very happy to
pronounce the night to the no

2775
02:53:59,460 --> 02:54:03,780
agenda roundtable sir anonymous
from Brooklyn. And nice Sir Ian

2776
02:54:03,780 --> 02:54:06,990
Prentice gentlemen, for you.
We've got hookers and blow rent

2777
02:54:06,990 --> 02:54:10,950
boys and Chardonnay. We have
mushrooms and Maker's Mark

2778
02:54:10,980 --> 02:54:14,670
whiskey and red wine, bad
science and perky breasts. Three

2779
02:54:14,670 --> 02:54:17,520
gangsters in a bucket of fried
chicken wenches and beer Boston

2780
02:54:17,520 --> 02:54:20,340
Villa bong hits of bourbon or if
you want some mutton in need,

2781
02:54:20,850 --> 02:54:24,810
and you could head on over to
nogen nation.com/rings Pick up

2782
02:54:24,810 --> 02:54:28,080
your rings. I think Eric's fix
it now what you get when you

2783
02:54:28,140 --> 02:54:33,000
input your information and get
the an email and overseas stuff

2784
02:54:33,000 --> 02:54:36,870
sometimes takes longer if if it
ever gets there. Yeah, it does

2785
02:54:36,870 --> 02:54:39,870
get stolen and stuff does
happen. I got to help one of our

2786
02:54:39,930 --> 02:54:44,790
one of our knights over there. I
think but also, you know, don't

2787
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:48,510
email me try to get ahold of
Eric, but okay. I'm happy to

2788
02:54:48,510 --> 02:54:49,530
help whatever I can.

2789
02:54:50,010 --> 02:54:53,580
I got the story of the week. Not
the plane coming down story of

2790
02:54:53,580 --> 02:54:58,110
the week. Yeah. Fake TSA clip,
fake TSA.

2791
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,420
affair. That's gonna fear I had
that too. You're gonna take away

2792
02:55:03,420 --> 02:55:04,200
in the clip with the day.

2793
02:55:04,230 --> 02:55:07,680
Well tonight we're learning a
man accused of impersonating TSA

2794
02:55:07,680 --> 02:55:11,370
agents and groping passengers at
SFO is a successful

2795
02:55:11,370 --> 02:55:12,840
international banker.

2796
02:55:14,580 --> 02:55:17,130
Wait a minute. I hadn't heard
this part of the story.

2797
02:55:17,280 --> 02:55:21,120
The real TSA agents we sent to
Brian Webb to find out Brian.

2798
02:55:22,530 --> 02:55:25,230
Well, I've been bouncing back
and forth between agencies all

2799
02:55:25,230 --> 02:55:27,840
day trying to get some answers
each one telling me to talk to

2800
02:55:27,840 --> 02:55:30,750
the other. Finally today the
sheriff's office tells us the

2801
02:55:30,750 --> 02:55:34,560
deputies came out to SFO Tuesday
night on reports of a drunk and

2802
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:38,010
disruptive man who's now accused
of giving new meaning to the

2803
02:55:38,010 --> 02:55:40,350
phrase flying the friendly
skies.

2804
02:55:42,720 --> 02:55:47,190
Inside the International
Terminal at SFO, a TSA imposter

2805
02:55:47,250 --> 02:55:51,120
is accused of an X rated
security pat down behind closed

2806
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:55,320
doors. Yeah, yeah, I had

2807
02:55:55,320 --> 02:55:57,540
the second part you get the
guy's name and you can look him

2808
02:55:57,540 --> 02:55:59,790
up. He's like a vice president.
So I'm a big fan of that.

2809
02:56:00,180 --> 02:56:03,870
We're learning the alleged
groper 53 year old Eric Slayton

2810
02:56:03,870 --> 02:56:08,160
is an international investment
mogul Eric Slayton.

2811
02:56:08,370 --> 02:56:10,260
Yes, I get it look him up again.

2812
02:56:11,850 --> 02:56:16,860
Let me play I had a version of
this, which was here's my

2813
02:56:16,860 --> 02:56:18,330
version I liked the groper part,

2814
02:56:18,900 --> 02:56:22,530
and suspected of having one too
many drinks post as an airport

2815
02:56:22,530 --> 02:56:26,220
screener at SFO yesterday.
Authorities say he wore to

2816
02:56:26,250 --> 02:56:29,640
unsuspecting women, both
foreigners into a private booth

2817
02:56:29,640 --> 02:56:35,250
for pat downs. Staffers spotted
him and called police. So how

2818
02:56:35,250 --> 02:56:38,400
did he pull it off? Here's what
I found out. The man was a

2819
02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:41,370
ticketed passenger that went
through the security checkpoint.

2820
02:56:41,490 --> 02:56:45,360
He went to an airport lounge and
spent a few hours drinking and

2821
02:56:45,360 --> 02:56:49,230
that's when the trouble began.
He may have swiped plastic blue

2822
02:56:49,230 --> 02:56:52,920
gloves to look the part. The 53
year old then returned to the

2823
02:56:52,920 --> 02:56:55,860
screening area and convinced a
passenger who had already been

2824
02:56:55,860 --> 02:56:59,340
screened to go to a private
booth. What happened inside

2825
02:56:59,370 --> 02:57:03,030
isn't exactly clear because she
disappeared to catch her flight.

2826
02:57:03,240 --> 02:57:07,080
But minutes later he did it
again. And this time security

2827
02:57:07,080 --> 02:57:08,700
screeners took notice.

2828
02:57:09,180 --> 02:57:15,600
I love this. This is great. Eric
slight n s li gh t o n of the

2829
02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:22,680
actus group and Singapore hedge
fund guy Dick Yeah, it's

2830
02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:24,870
a big dick kind of thing.

2831
02:57:24,900 --> 02:57:27,540
Yeah, well that's kind of funny
lady all you have to do is just

2832
02:57:27,540 --> 02:57:29,670
have those blue gloves and
people buy it I think

2833
02:57:29,670 --> 02:57:32,100
that's he had the gloves appear
on the show today. He had the he

2834
02:57:32,100 --> 02:57:35,430
had this right same color shirt.
He wore the same color pants and

2835
02:57:35,430 --> 02:57:36,150
had the gloves.

2836
02:57:36,180 --> 02:57:37,980
I love that fantastic.

2837
02:57:39,450 --> 02:57:41,850
Sir you've been selected for a
secondary pat down.

2838
02:57:42,180 --> 02:57:48,210
Well, while we're on bankers
then the ING Bank. They have a

2839
02:57:48,210 --> 02:57:54,270
whole little lot I think this is
for investors. And very

2840
02:57:54,270 --> 02:57:57,990
interesting. There's a little
video about Bitcoin. Now now

2841
02:57:57,990 --> 02:58:02,520
bitcoin is is of course
interesting since that, was that

2842
02:58:02,520 --> 02:58:07,770
nut job the Tim Draper? I guess
I guess he bought for $18

2843
02:58:07,770 --> 02:58:08,100
million

2844
02:58:08,550 --> 02:58:12,840
he he bought the getting into
barriers money. Right

2845
02:58:12,869 --> 02:58:16,709
in the auction of the government
funds which were from Are they

2846
02:58:16,709 --> 02:58:18,419
from that was that from the

2847
02:58:18,960 --> 02:58:21,030
the takedown of this guy in the
city? Wasn't it?

2848
02:58:21,510 --> 02:58:25,920
It was that the the drone thing?
Yeah. Was that what it was from?

2849
02:58:25,980 --> 02:58:29,490
So it's probably a good deal. I
mean, I'm happy that that he did

2850
02:58:29,490 --> 02:58:31,740
that because he now he put a
value I don't know exactly what

2851
02:58:31,740 --> 02:58:34,680
it is, but he put a value on
these Bitcoins. And he's gonna

2852
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:37,110
want to get his money back
eventually and I still have some

2853
02:58:37,440 --> 02:58:40,230
ta somewhere I should probably
run that program from time

2854
02:58:40,230 --> 02:58:40,620
better

2855
02:58:40,680 --> 02:58:43,230
not lose them. No, that would
suck

2856
02:58:44,340 --> 02:58:49,470
and so I N G there have a call
to action for the creators of

2857
02:58:49,470 --> 02:58:53,520
the Bitcoin. There is a new kid
in money town this is a ditch

2858
02:58:53,520 --> 02:58:56,430
man who's talking about the
Bitcoins? Yes, and it is called

2859
02:58:56,460 --> 02:59:00,150
Bitcoin Bitcoins. It is part of
a family of cryptocurrencies

2860
02:59:00,180 --> 02:59:02,940
that might become a substitute
for traditional money and

2861
02:59:02,940 --> 02:59:06,720
payment system. But can
cryptocurrencies really replace

2862
02:59:06,720 --> 02:59:10,920
money? Well, money has three
defining properties now this is

2863
02:59:10,920 --> 02:59:12,690
interesting because they're
gonna say some What do you think

2864
02:59:12,690 --> 02:59:14,970
he's gonna say? What is the
thing that is missing from the

2865
02:59:14,970 --> 02:59:15,300
three

2866
02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:19,260
defining properties of money?
Yes. Okay, I think it's good why

2867
02:59:19,530 --> 02:59:22,410
what's missing what's going to
be missing? No, but yeah, what's

2868
02:59:22,410 --> 02:59:24,180
gonna be missing is there's
gonna be something that is

2869
02:59:24,210 --> 02:59:24,870
tangible

2870
02:59:26,400 --> 02:59:28,860
Well, there's something about
money it let's say Bitcoin

2871
02:59:28,860 --> 02:59:32,400
became became the de facto
currency what would we need in

2872
02:59:32,400 --> 02:59:36,300
order for it to really function
as money computers, it is a

2873
02:59:36,300 --> 02:59:39,840
means of exchange exchange, it
is a unit of account account and

2874
02:59:39,870 --> 02:59:43,260
it is a store of value, yes.
cryptocurrencies may in the

2875
02:59:43,260 --> 02:59:46,440
future take the first box if
they are accepted more widely

2876
02:59:46,440 --> 02:59:49,650
first box, but the second and
third or more problematic

2877
02:59:49,680 --> 02:59:54,600
problem is value of Bitcoin is
very volatile is bitcoins value

2878
02:59:54,600 --> 02:59:59,400
increased tenfold in 2013. What
do we need to stabilize the

2879
02:59:59,400 --> 03:00:00,870
Bitcoins? value charm.

2880
03:00:01,620 --> 03:00:05,400
I have no idea about beige on
gold also had

2881
03:00:05,400 --> 03:00:08,700
several speculative crisis in
its short history very much so,

2882
03:00:08,910 --> 03:00:12,630
with real currencies central
banks dampen these fluctuations

2883
03:00:12,630 --> 03:00:15,630
by regulating money supply and
prices through interest rates.

2884
03:00:16,740 --> 03:00:19,620
But it is an explicit goal of
Bitcoin and other

2885
03:00:19,620 --> 03:00:24,570
cryptocurrencies to do away with
central authorities. The supply

2886
03:00:24,570 --> 03:00:28,380
of bitcoins increases at a
predetermined rate by mining,

2887
03:00:29,040 --> 03:00:32,790
but demand for Bitcoin varies.
So its price and the exchange

2888
03:00:32,790 --> 03:00:35,850
rate with currencies such as the
dollar and the euro fluctuates.

2889
03:00:36,930 --> 03:00:40,170
These fluctuations could be
bitcoins undoing, as they

2890
03:00:40,170 --> 03:00:45,150
complicate its adoption as real
money. But there is a way out is

2891
03:00:45,150 --> 03:00:48,750
Bitcoin algorithm that smoothly
matches money supply and demand.

2892
03:00:49,590 --> 03:00:52,650
It is not impossible, but the
inventors of that successful

2893
03:00:52,650 --> 03:00:55,620
algorithm would make such a
momentous step forward, that

2894
03:00:55,620 --> 03:00:58,890
they will surely qualify for the
Nobel Prize in Economics. Oh.

2895
03:01:01,170 --> 03:01:04,350
I knew you'd like anybody think
this is completely insane but

2896
03:01:04,350 --> 03:01:04,860
me.

2897
03:01:06,210 --> 03:01:09,030
That's ING Bank man. That's a
real bank saying this I thought

2898
03:01:09,030 --> 03:01:12,360
was great. I loved it. Of
course, it's insane.

2899
03:01:12,689 --> 03:01:15,509
It's insane. This is Beanie
Babies. Hello.

2900
03:01:17,340 --> 03:01:21,000
quick rundown as we we are
running over a bit but of course

2901
03:01:21,000 --> 03:01:26,340
we had a lot Haiti news on
Haiti. The Olympic Committee

2902
03:01:26,340 --> 03:01:34,230
Sports Complex has opened up.
For what? For what? For Olympic

2903
03:01:34,230 --> 03:01:39,870
sports of course. Porto Ponce, a
group of diplomats relive

2904
03:01:39,870 --> 03:01:43,650
childhood dreams Tuesdays they
practice jump shots played table

2905
03:01:43,650 --> 03:01:47,280
of table tennis and jockey to
score goal on the soccer field,

2906
03:01:47,580 --> 03:01:50,130
led by Prime Minister Laurent
Lemov the United Nations

2907
03:01:50,130 --> 03:01:52,650
Secretary General Ban Ki Moon
and International Olympic

2908
03:01:52,650 --> 03:01:56,280
Committee president that's IOC
Thomas Bach toured Haiti's

2909
03:01:56,280 --> 03:02:00,120
newest Sports Complex is still
under construction $18 million

2910
03:02:00,450 --> 03:02:05,250
facility that's right, you've
got cholera and we'll build a

2911
03:02:05,250 --> 03:02:11,610
sports complex ha It's sad

2912
03:02:13,860 --> 03:02:18,600
All right, well, I think you've
summarized the day no no you

2913
03:02:18,600 --> 03:02:20,820
want to do a Hamas steroid do
have a cannibalized

2914
03:02:20,850 --> 03:02:27,900
okay yeah. I'm so the only thing
I have on Hamas and Hamas Hamas

2915
03:02:27,900 --> 03:02:32,760
is how you have to say it. I
questioned sir Jonah are one of

2916
03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:36,390
our nights there in Israel. I
said this Iron Dome thing when

2917
03:02:36,390 --> 03:02:40,290
it blows some some blows the one
of those rockets from Hamas out

2918
03:02:40,290 --> 03:02:45,660
of the sky. Doesn't debris fall
down? And he said yes, no one

2919
03:02:45,660 --> 03:02:49,230
ever talks about this. But this
is video you have to see this in

2920
03:02:49,230 --> 03:02:54,150
the show notes. Where a piece of
Iron Dome rocket or whatever

2921
03:02:54,150 --> 03:02:59,280
falls down in a tree and it's a
surveillance video and it and it

2922
03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:01,440
makes a hole it makes a dent in
the in the tree and in the

2923
03:03:01,440 --> 03:03:04,800
ground. And like two seconds
later, this cat flies out of the

2924
03:03:04,800 --> 03:03:08,130
tree completely free. It's very
funny. But But these things they

2925
03:03:08,130 --> 03:03:12,570
fall on sidewalks they fall on
non cars. It's not without risk

2926
03:03:12,570 --> 03:03:14,610
this Iron Dome thing if

2927
03:03:15,720 --> 03:03:17,610
I put a trap in the backyard,

2928
03:03:18,060 --> 03:03:21,120
yes. You were very excited on
Thursday. Yeah, I

2929
03:03:21,120 --> 03:03:24,780
put a trap in the backyard to
catch a squirrel that was

2930
03:03:24,810 --> 03:03:31,170
plaguing the model for the last
two years. Wait one off the tree

2931
03:03:31,230 --> 03:03:35,040
Hold on a second one squirrel.
This because it's had this This

2932
03:03:35,040 --> 03:03:39,960
reeks of Caddyshack one squirrel
for two years has been has been

2933
03:03:39,960 --> 03:03:44,220
pestering you. Yes. By eating
your plums by eating the plums

2934
03:03:44,220 --> 03:03:47,760
on the tree and I'm sure it's
the same squirrel. Well, no, we

2935
03:03:47,760 --> 03:03:49,920
think it wasn't that we think
the other squirrels dead and

2936
03:03:49,920 --> 03:03:51,570
this is one of its kids this
time.

2937
03:03:51,660 --> 03:03:53,610
And do you have a mouse in your
pocket?

2938
03:03:53,850 --> 03:03:57,120
So we what I'm talking about the
entire family was involved in

2939
03:03:57,120 --> 03:04:01,740
this episode. Okay. So put the
trap out there and we caught the

2940
03:04:01,740 --> 03:04:05,070
squirrel and it wasn't as
damaging as the squirrel last

2941
03:04:05,070 --> 03:04:07,680
year but you know, it didn't
bite into one or two pumps. I

2942
03:04:07,680 --> 03:04:11,310
put a plum in the trap that
traps great, great trap. So the

2943
03:04:11,310 --> 03:04:13,830
squirrels in there and so I took
the squirrel to Berkeley.

2944
03:04:14,730 --> 03:04:18,360
Probably illegally you
transported the squirrel. I

2945
03:04:18,360 --> 03:04:19,650
transported the squirrel it

2946
03:04:19,650 --> 03:04:22,320
kind of I can ask him questions
Can I can I interrogate you?

2947
03:04:22,320 --> 03:04:25,050
Well what kind of trap is this
is a trap with a cage with a

2948
03:04:25,050 --> 03:04:27,930
door and he goes in you put a
plum in there or something and

2949
03:04:28,080 --> 03:04:30,030
the door closes or is it like a
claw?

2950
03:04:30,330 --> 03:04:34,470
No, no, no, you got his leg.
It's the squirrel goes into the

2951
03:04:34,470 --> 03:04:38,580
cages to see through the cage
literally. The squirrel touches

2952
03:04:38,580 --> 03:04:42,720
the thing. It it unhooked the
lid that just said like a door

2953
03:04:42,720 --> 03:04:44,640
slam shot and what what did

2954
03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:48,240
you use for bait as plumb a
plumb a perfect

2955
03:04:49,470 --> 03:04:54,150
square girl went in there and so
I took this girl to and dropped

2956
03:04:54,150 --> 03:04:56,700
him off on the other side of the
freeway deep in Berkeley.

2957
03:04:57,090 --> 03:05:00,450
You put them in another place
you just took them up said

2958
03:05:00,990 --> 03:05:04,320
I didn't kill this freeze
tempting as it was you you

2959
03:05:04,320 --> 03:05:04,800
basically

2960
03:05:04,800 --> 03:05:07,950
moved him away from his family
you'd like deported him

2961
03:05:07,980 --> 03:05:12,150
essentially I supported this
squirrel. Okay. All right and

2962
03:05:12,150 --> 03:05:13,950
was it did you have a sad face?

2963
03:05:14,580 --> 03:05:19,170
So yesterday we I put this trap
back up. There's a small possum

2964
03:05:19,170 --> 03:05:19,920
in the trap.

2965
03:05:20,490 --> 03:05:23,580
possums are crazy animals. Well,
this is

2966
03:05:23,580 --> 03:05:26,310
a little one because you
otherwise we don't have a giant

2967
03:05:26,310 --> 03:05:29,280
trap. It's a squirrel traps
plastic possums cannibals about

2968
03:05:29,280 --> 03:05:30,150
that side. Possums

2969
03:05:30,150 --> 03:05:31,740
can do a lot of damage.
Actually.

2970
03:05:32,910 --> 03:05:36,240
I don't notice this, okay. But I
don't want to you know, these

2971
03:05:36,270 --> 03:05:39,210
varmints are at night. They're
just roaming around who knows

2972
03:05:39,210 --> 03:05:41,130
what's going on outside and

2973
03:05:41,130 --> 03:05:45,360
ask you another question. So you
had the squirrel? You deported

2974
03:05:45,360 --> 03:05:49,140
the squirrel? Yeah, but yet you
set the trap again.

2975
03:05:49,770 --> 03:05:53,100
I figured there's another
squirrel. Okay. There's usually

2976
03:05:53,100 --> 03:05:54,240
not a squirrel.

2977
03:05:54,330 --> 03:05:57,300
And what is what is the function
of the possum in the animal

2978
03:05:57,300 --> 03:05:57,990
kingdom

2979
03:05:58,950 --> 03:06:06,600
to play dead. Like a marsupial.
They're out at night and they

2980
03:06:06,960 --> 03:06:08,010
know the stuff.

2981
03:06:08,040 --> 03:06:11,400
Okay. And so and we're the plum
and he ate the plum.

2982
03:06:11,550 --> 03:06:14,460
Yeah, another one. Yeah, pull
him. So I kicked him out. I

2983
03:06:14,460 --> 03:06:18,720
didn't deport him. I just got
told him to get lost. And did he

2984
03:06:18,720 --> 03:06:23,130
listen? Yeah, yeah. took off.
And I hope I don't get your

2985
03:06:23,130 --> 03:06:27,930
small skunk. That would be bad.
Oh, yeah, I've had that happen.

2986
03:06:28,650 --> 03:06:30,600
Anyway, so I just started
reporting on this is

2987
03:06:30,600 --> 03:06:34,260
very good. Have you ever had
mold or you're trying to deal

2988
03:06:34,260 --> 03:06:34,680
with mold,

2989
03:06:34,800 --> 03:06:38,820
I'm on a rock. This year mold
tried to dig around here.

2990
03:06:38,880 --> 03:06:42,570
Because I mold trapping is very,
that's a skill. We

2991
03:06:42,570 --> 03:06:46,740
used to have moles in when I
lived in him as a kid. And up

2992
03:06:46,740 --> 03:06:50,340
north, we have gophers. Oh,
they'll disappear. For some

2993
03:06:50,340 --> 03:06:52,980
reason. I haven't seen one for a
while global warming a mess.

2994
03:06:52,980 --> 03:06:55,740
Climate change, put holes
everywhere. Climate change

2995
03:06:55,740 --> 03:06:58,740
is why they disappeared. It
could be climate change. But I'm

2996
03:06:58,740 --> 03:07:03,180
Mickey said she heard on NPR,
about the Ebola virus, which is

2997
03:07:03,180 --> 03:07:06,000
you know, out of control now and
all of Africa. I wanted, I

2998
03:07:06,030 --> 03:07:08,520
wanted to talk about that on one
of the shows, and I'll probably

2999
03:07:08,520 --> 03:07:11,040
discuss it in some great detail
because I have some thoughts

3000
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:14,190
about the Ebola virus. And we'll
discuss it on Thursday on

3001
03:07:14,190 --> 03:07:16,950
Thursday. Well, I have to find
the report. But she said that on

3002
03:07:16,950 --> 03:07:20,760
NPR. They were blind. They were
blaming climate change.

3003
03:07:22,710 --> 03:07:28,830
Well, I blame finding Yeah, I
lied to you that clip. But Ebola

3004
03:07:28,830 --> 03:07:31,230
had been around for a while it's
you know, they've it's I think

3005
03:07:31,230 --> 03:07:36,180
there's over 550 dead now. Very
up to 600. Yeah, mild coverage

3006
03:07:36,180 --> 03:07:38,820
by the Western press. Even
though this could be a disaster

3007
03:07:38,820 --> 03:07:42,240
if somebody showed up in Paris,
you know, started getting on

3008
03:07:42,240 --> 03:07:44,790
public transit. And the real
problem would be it seems to me

3009
03:07:44,970 --> 03:07:49,950
if you have a Typhoid Mary type
of person, what is that walk in

3010
03:07:50,640 --> 03:07:53,850
infected Ebola person that won't
that doesn't actually catch the

3011
03:07:53,850 --> 03:07:54,540
disease.

3012
03:07:54,600 --> 03:07:57,930
What is the story of the Typhoid
Mary Typhoid Mary

3013
03:07:57,930 --> 03:08:03,210
was a famous woman. It could be
a myth, but I think it was real

3014
03:08:03,210 --> 03:08:07,530
that apparently had walking
typhoid fever, but she was never

3015
03:08:07,530 --> 03:08:09,900
she never got to the point where
it's going to kill her. So she

3016
03:08:09,900 --> 03:08:15,600
roam around infecting everybody
and with typhoid and so book of

3017
03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:17,670
knowledge Hold on a second look
up

3018
03:08:17,670 --> 03:08:18,540
Typhoid Mary.

3019
03:08:21,810 --> 03:08:27,060
Mary Mallon am a double O in
September 23 1869 to November

3020
03:08:27,060 --> 03:08:30,450
11 1938, better known as Typhoid
Mary was the first person in the

3021
03:08:30,450 --> 03:08:34,980
United States identified as an
asymptomatic carrier. That's the

3022
03:08:34,980 --> 03:08:37,710
word I'm looking for, of the
pathogen assayed associated with

3023
03:08:37,710 --> 03:08:41,370
typhoid fever, she was presumed
to have infected 51 people,

3024
03:08:41,370 --> 03:08:44,760
three of whom died over the
course of her career as a cook.

3025
03:08:44,790 --> 03:08:48,720
Oh, yeah. She was twice forcibly
isolated by public health

3026
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:51,810
authorities and died after a
total of nearly three decades in

3027
03:08:51,810 --> 03:08:57,300
isolation. Interesting, a locked
her up. So that actually brings

3028
03:08:57,300 --> 03:09:04,230
me to, as we close out a war on
crazy story. There's this app, I

3029
03:09:04,230 --> 03:09:09,360
think, is ginger.io. It's the
behavioral health analytics

3030
03:09:09,390 --> 03:09:15,120
startup. This is for all you.
Wearable people who see

3031
03:09:15,120 --> 03:09:18,840
smartphones as automated diaries
containing valuable insight into

3032
03:09:18,840 --> 03:09:21,330
the mental well being of people
with mental illness. You gotta

3033
03:09:21,330 --> 03:09:23,610
go to this website. It's pretty
interesting. What's it called?

3034
03:09:23,640 --> 03:09:29,250
ginger.io. It's about redheads.
No, no, and it's just I don't

3035
03:09:29,250 --> 03:09:32,340
know, they don't have a domain
name was available. And the

3036
03:09:32,340 --> 03:09:35,670
heritage smarter care starts
with your smartphone. And so

3037
03:09:35,670 --> 03:09:40,350
what it is, it's an app. And if
you say I'm an individual living

3038
03:09:40,350 --> 03:09:43,590
with a chronic condition, mainly
mental health, looking for

3039
03:09:43,590 --> 03:09:45,990
stronger connection to my
provider and better care feel

3040
03:09:45,990 --> 03:09:51,480
better. So what it does is the
the app uses data from your

3041
03:09:51,480 --> 03:09:54,540
phone to safely and securely
watch for days when your health

3042
03:09:54,540 --> 03:09:57,900
may take a hit. It'll then
connect you with care providers

3043
03:09:57,900 --> 03:10:02,340
who can step in when it matters
most So if you're depressed,

3044
03:10:03,030 --> 03:10:06,360
it will the app will know as the
phone Good to know, well,

3045
03:10:06,900 --> 03:10:09,180
if someone I'm reading from
their material, if someone is

3046
03:10:09,180 --> 03:10:11,790
depressed, for instance, they
isolate themselves have a hard

3047
03:10:11,790 --> 03:10:15,000
time getting up to go to school
or work. They're lethargic and

3048
03:10:15,000 --> 03:10:17,310
don't like communicating with
others the way they typically

3049
03:10:17,310 --> 03:10:21,000
do. Turns out, you see the same
features change in their mobile

3050
03:10:21,000 --> 03:10:24,000
phone sensor data in their
movement, features and

3051
03:10:24,000 --> 03:10:28,740
interactions with others. So the
ginger app that tracks

3052
03:10:28,740 --> 03:10:32,940
everything. And then it's you
know, it sees your behavior and

3053
03:10:32,940 --> 03:10:35,820
like, oh, well, man, I don't
know. And then, you know, I

3054
03:10:35,820 --> 03:10:39,990
guess they'll send over the way
you guys play that clip? Where

3055
03:10:39,990 --> 03:10:40,200
there's a

3056
03:10:40,200 --> 03:10:43,350
clip? Yeah, go to for
individuals. And there's a nice

3057
03:10:43,350 --> 03:10:44,250
little clip. Oh,

3058
03:10:44,250 --> 03:10:48,120
shoot. I didn't see that
homeless second. ginger.io.

3059
03:10:48,270 --> 03:10:51,000
You're already playing the clip.
I didn't read for individuals. I

3060
03:10:51,000 --> 03:10:52,890
didn't realize there was a clip.
I'm sorry. I would have set that

3061
03:10:52,890 --> 03:10:53,640
up. Yeah, don't

3062
03:10:53,640 --> 03:10:54,390
apologize.

3063
03:10:54,750 --> 03:10:57,900
Where do you see it? Oh, there
it is. I was below the fold.

3064
03:10:58,440 --> 03:10:59,640
Yes. That's why

3065
03:10:59,670 --> 03:11:03,630
sometimes it can feel like your
health gets away from you. Like

3066
03:11:03,720 --> 03:11:07,110
your body has a mind of its own.
Yeah. And it won't be thinking.

3067
03:11:07,710 --> 03:11:10,080
It can be hard to answer your
doctor's questions about how you

3068
03:11:10,080 --> 03:11:14,400
feel today, how you felt last
month. But what if your body had

3069
03:11:14,400 --> 03:11:18,240
a better way to communicate how
it was doing? You had a better

3070
03:11:18,240 --> 03:11:23,010
way to listen. That's the idea
behind Ginger IO. Use your

3071
03:11:23,010 --> 03:11:26,730
smartphone. Yes, the thing you
never put down is how you go

3072
03:11:26,730 --> 03:11:29,730
about your day. We look at
things like how much you move

3073
03:11:29,730 --> 03:11:32,460
around, and how many other
people you talk to, and ask you

3074
03:11:32,460 --> 03:11:36,120
a few questions about how you're
doing right now. We use this map

3075
03:11:36,120 --> 03:11:39,660
to help you learn what your body
is trying to say. When something

3076
03:11:39,660 --> 03:11:43,260
seems off, we send an alert to
you and to the people who care

3077
03:11:43,260 --> 03:11:46,110
about your health. Know
struggling to remember when you

3078
03:11:46,110 --> 03:11:48,630
had trouble waking up, or
whether you felt like a five or

3079
03:11:48,630 --> 03:11:52,170
seven. Just simple questions
paired with a system that's

3080
03:11:52,170 --> 03:11:57,390
always on but never in your way.
The magic of Ginger IO. We give

3081
03:11:57,390 --> 03:12:01,170
your health a voice and a way
for you and your care to hear

3082
03:12:01,170 --> 03:12:05,220
it. Best of all, it's simple,
secure and free through to your

3083
03:12:05,220 --> 03:12:10,080
care provider to get started, or
check us out@ginger.io and sign

3084
03:12:10,080 --> 03:12:10,320
up.

3085
03:12:11,160 --> 03:12:15,570
This is what we'll obey. This is
what wearables will be all

3086
03:12:15,570 --> 03:12:15,990
about.

3087
03:12:16,650 --> 03:12:21,450
Yeah, I think this was all leads
all roads lead to Ginger IO.

3088
03:12:22,470 --> 03:12:26,550
Yeah. Just spying on Yeah. I
think it's sure that you know

3089
03:12:26,550 --> 03:12:29,040
that the police are in, you
know, they know what's going on

3090
03:12:29,040 --> 03:12:30,270
case just in case pretty

3091
03:12:30,270 --> 03:12:35,160
good. All right. So on Thursday,
we will talk about NPR and PBS.

3092
03:12:35,250 --> 03:12:42,540
I promise. We have to talk about
Afghanistan. That's how you

3093
03:12:42,540 --> 03:12:46,560
pronounce it about the
Afghanistan pipeline. All of

3094
03:12:46,560 --> 03:12:49,230
this isn't you know that
everything's falling into place

3095
03:12:49,230 --> 03:12:53,910
there. Turkmenistan is happy
with the deal. So the Tapi

3096
03:12:53,910 --> 03:12:57,150
pipeline, which goes all the way
to Pakistan and India, they feel

3097
03:12:57,150 --> 03:13:00,540
that, you know, we have the
pipeline security in place with

3098
03:13:00,540 --> 03:13:03,810
the drones in Waziristan. So
they're good. They're going to

3099
03:13:03,810 --> 03:13:08,400
open up the pipeline, so we can
feed the Pakistan and India. We

3100
03:13:08,400 --> 03:13:15,030
also have let's see Turkey
privatization. I think

3101
03:13:15,030 --> 03:13:17,970
Afghanistan is the main one we
want to talk about. Oh, and

3102
03:13:18,420 --> 03:13:21,270
there's new players in the
Snowden affair and there's a lot

3103
03:13:21,270 --> 03:13:25,080
going on, John, I just haven't
been able to to get into a deep

3104
03:13:25,080 --> 03:13:26,910
enough because of all of the MH
17

3105
03:13:26,970 --> 03:13:29,340
Okay, you're on for the Snowden
stuff.

3106
03:13:29,370 --> 03:13:35,730
Yeah. And just give you a name
RUNA SANDVIK new player nublado

3107
03:13:36,090 --> 03:13:42,990
RUNA SANDVIK have you do you
know RUNA SANDVIK R U N A links

3108
03:13:42,990 --> 03:13:48,480
from Denmark or something? She's
uh, I think now she's like a

3109
03:13:48,480 --> 03:13:53,610
Washington DC. You know, another
one of these freedom of the

3110
03:13:53,610 --> 03:13:59,160
press, basically, a replacement
for Apple bomb. See that the

3111
03:13:59,160 --> 03:14:04,530
whole thing with the Berlin crew
and Dawn Rob Graham Greenwell is

3112
03:14:04,860 --> 03:14:08,910
he's been separated, he's no
longer is in touch with Snowden

3113
03:14:09,720 --> 03:14:10,410
Poitras

3114
03:14:11,250 --> 03:14:14,940
of a second of a second leaker,
which is correct discussed

3115
03:14:15,060 --> 03:14:18,630
and and now Snowden went back
and did an interview without his

3116
03:14:18,630 --> 03:14:22,140
glasses. I might add,
interestingly enough with the

3117
03:14:22,140 --> 03:14:25,620
guardian. I don't know if you've
seen that interview video

3118
03:14:25,620 --> 03:14:30,450
interview. He was on the hope X
conference which was in

3119
03:14:30,570 --> 03:14:33,480
New York with a pencil finding
Snowden it'd be a little

3120
03:14:33,510 --> 03:14:34,320
tedious.

3121
03:14:34,350 --> 03:14:37,410
Very I don't find him
interesting at all anymore. I

3122
03:14:37,410 --> 03:14:40,230
know what he has. He's now
talking policy and all this

3123
03:14:40,230 --> 03:14:42,150
stuff. Not interested.

3124
03:14:42,180 --> 03:14:45,630
Yeah. As though he's like a
policy guy. Yeah, the end is not

3125
03:14:45,630 --> 03:14:46,740
a policy. No, he's

3126
03:14:46,740 --> 03:14:51,900
a spy. But there's this RUNA
SANDVIK. That's starting to get

3127
03:14:51,900 --> 03:14:56,100
very interesting about her
involvement early on and the

3128
03:14:56,100 --> 03:14:59,070
story is slowly unfolding a
little differently from what

3129
03:14:59,070 --> 03:15:03,000
Glenn Greenwald said. it. And
here is the just play as it

3130
03:15:03,000 --> 03:15:08,400
playing us out. Is Snowden
saying essentially, in his

3131
03:15:08,400 --> 03:15:12,240
guardian interview that at the
NSA, certainly, but I think he

3132
03:15:12,240 --> 03:15:17,190
means it may be any intelligence
unit when they find like a hot

3133
03:15:17,190 --> 03:15:20,460
picture of someone who's hot and
sexy and naked, they put

3134
03:15:20,460 --> 03:15:25,680
basically pass it around. Which
da, of course you do that John,

3135
03:15:25,680 --> 03:15:29,070
you and I email pictures all the
time. Right

3136
03:15:31,140 --> 03:15:34,020
now in the course of their daily
work, they stumble across

3137
03:15:34,020 --> 03:15:38,310
something that is completely
unrelated to their work in any

3138
03:15:38,310 --> 03:15:44,220
sort of necessary sense. For
example, an intimate, nude photo

3139
03:15:44,400 --> 03:15:48,210
of someone in a sexually
compromising situation. But

3140
03:15:48,210 --> 03:15:51,810
they're extremely attractive. So
what do they do? They turn

3141
03:15:51,810 --> 03:15:54,270
around in their chair, and they
show their coworker, and then a

3142
03:15:54,270 --> 03:15:57,930
coworker who says, Oh, hey,
that's great. Send that to Bill.

3143
03:15:58,230 --> 03:16:02,760
Way, Bill. And then bill sends
it to George says, It's Tom. And

3144
03:16:02,760 --> 03:16:06,750
sooner or later, this person's
whole life has been seen by all

3145
03:16:06,750 --> 03:16:11,040
of these other people. It's
never reported. Nobody ever

3146
03:16:11,040 --> 03:16:13,260
knows about it, because the
auditing of these systems is

3147
03:16:13,260 --> 03:16:17,160
incredibly weak. The fact that
your private images, records of

3148
03:16:17,160 --> 03:16:21,390
your private lives, records of
your intimate moments have been

3149
03:16:21,390 --> 03:16:25,230
taken from your private
communication stream from the

3150
03:16:25,230 --> 03:16:29,100
intended recipient and given to
the government, without any

3151
03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:32,760
specific authorization without
any specific need, is itself a

3152
03:16:32,760 --> 03:16:36,030
violation of your rights. Why is
that in a government database,

3153
03:16:36,060 --> 03:16:38,940
you can use or instances that
happening? Absolutely, yeah.

3154
03:16:39,450 --> 03:16:43,560
Numerous. So it's routine
enough, depending on sort of the

3155
03:16:43,560 --> 03:16:47,670
company you keep, it can be more
or less frequent. But these are

3156
03:16:47,670 --> 03:16:49,860
seen as sort of the fringe
benefits of surveillance

3157
03:16:49,860 --> 03:16:53,880
positions. Oh, yeah. You say the
auditing is not that good that

3158
03:16:53,880 --> 03:16:57,540
it would pick up on the sharing
of that kind of a 29 year old

3159
03:16:57,540 --> 03:17:00,090
walked in and out of the NSA
with all of their private

3160
03:17:00,090 --> 03:17:02,790
records. What does that say
about their auditing?

3161
03:17:03,060 --> 03:17:08,040
Interesting how he talked about
himself as a 29 year old? Right,

3162
03:17:08,340 --> 03:17:10,350
is at the point where he's
talking about himself in the

3163
03:17:10,350 --> 03:17:11,100
third person

3164
03:17:11,130 --> 03:17:13,800
and his girlfriend is about to
come back on the scene to

3165
03:17:14,130 --> 03:17:17,700
the Oh, the dancer. Mm hmm. It's
about time.

3166
03:17:17,730 --> 03:17:21,450
I agree. To all of these things,
I

3167
03:17:21,450 --> 03:17:22,740
live with Snowden.

3168
03:17:22,980 --> 03:17:24,570
I think we're going to find some
things out.

3169
03:17:25,860 --> 03:17:27,030
Yeah, well, maybe

3170
03:17:28,740 --> 03:17:30,060
you don't sound too excited.

3171
03:17:30,119 --> 03:17:35,969
I'm not excited at all. I'm
sorry. I thought you would be

3172
03:17:35,969 --> 03:17:38,909
excited. I mean, why don't they
just you know this guy up for

3173
03:17:38,909 --> 03:17:43,079
one thing. Just a story is just
not going anywhere. It's just

3174
03:17:43,079 --> 03:17:46,439
dead end now. And Greenwell is
not contributing any non-green

3175
03:17:46,439 --> 03:17:49,559
Greenwald is like, God, he's
been taken out of the picture.

3176
03:17:49,589 --> 03:17:53,909
Yeah, totally. I mean, the whole
thing is deteriorate into just

3177
03:17:53,909 --> 03:17:54,419
nothing.

3178
03:17:56,490 --> 03:18:00,420
Well, I think there's still
something left. I think there is

3179
03:18:00,420 --> 03:18:06,330
some crip tome.org is they are
threatening to release all of

3180
03:18:06,330 --> 03:18:08,400
the Snowden documents. I don't
know if they actually have them

3181
03:18:08,400 --> 03:18:08,850
or not.

3182
03:18:10,770 --> 03:18:12,840
Without a probably it could have
gotten him. I know the New York

3183
03:18:12,840 --> 03:18:15,180
Times has them as possible, so
they could have taken it from

3184
03:18:15,180 --> 03:18:18,330
there. Even though I guess you
go into a locked room to look at

3185
03:18:18,330 --> 03:18:21,840
anything. Yeah. I don't know. I
don't know. We'll see.

3186
03:18:24,030 --> 03:18:29,340
Anyway, it was fun talking with
you, John. As usual, I always

3187
03:18:29,370 --> 03:18:32,640
enjoy our our Thursdays and
Sundays. As always, I look

3188
03:18:32,640 --> 03:18:33,960
forward to it. It's always cool.

3189
03:18:35,970 --> 03:18:39,390
Well, I enjoyed your analysis. I
thought it was top drawer. Thank

3190
03:18:39,390 --> 03:18:44,490
you. It's top five. Oh, thank
you and puts it all together. It

3191
03:18:44,490 --> 03:18:46,920
makes more sense to what you
said than anything else. And I

3192
03:18:46,920 --> 03:18:50,580
think we have lots of backup to
make it very credible. And you

3193
03:18:50,580 --> 03:18:53,490
know, again, nobody else would
have anything like this anywhere

3194
03:18:53,490 --> 03:18:57,420
else. Sometimes they try to do
it. They just usually don't do

3195
03:18:57,420 --> 03:18:59,310
they'll maybe they'll just I
don't know how this is going to

3196
03:18:59,340 --> 03:19:03,390
play out in terms of the public
consciousness but it's probably

3197
03:19:03,390 --> 03:19:06,150
going to be exclusive to the
listeners of this show. Oh,

3198
03:19:06,150 --> 03:19:09,540
yeah. But have the you know,
though, they'll have the knowing

3199
03:19:09,540 --> 03:19:14,250
smile. Oh, you're going to be
able to do folks. Knowing smile.

3200
03:19:14,460 --> 03:19:16,890
That's right. That's all you
need in life is the knowing

3201
03:19:16,890 --> 03:19:23,220
smile. And please contributes
dvorak.org/na We appreciate your

3202
03:19:23,220 --> 03:19:26,730
help. And coming to you from the
South Austin safe house here in

3203
03:19:26,730 --> 03:19:29,250
FEMA Region six, the capital the
drone Star State in the morning,

3204
03:19:29,250 --> 03:19:30,840
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

3205
03:19:31,109 --> 03:19:34,319
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, also known as a superior

3206
03:19:34,319 --> 03:19:37,289
FEMA Region nine. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

3207
03:19:37,320 --> 03:19:41,730
We'll be back on Thursday. Right
here on no agenda.

3208
03:19:46,290 --> 03:19:49,530
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rule is that we have to do it,

3209
03:19:49,620 --> 03:19:56,820
I'll do it. Dude. Dude, dude,
dude, dude. Dude, that sometimes

3210
03:19:56,820 --> 03:20:00,330
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3211
03:20:00,330 --> 03:20:09,300
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