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It's karula sade Wally Carrera,
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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, June 5 2014. It's
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assassination episode six to
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This is no agenda dedicated

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to our sacred mission and coming
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the traverse Heights High not in
the capital, the drone Star

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State in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry and

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from Northern Silicon Valley
where I'm burned out watching

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committee meetings. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

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Levin Buzzkill.

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Man, how many did you watch? I
only watched about three but

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that's 10 hours. That's 10 or 12
hours right now the problem

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is okay, here's what happened.
And this is gonna be bad.

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Do we need bad music? Do we need
do we need? Let me say? Yeah, I

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wasn't thinking about that. But

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it's bad music.

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Yeah, that's yeah, that is kind
of bad music. Yeah.

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So I so I'm watching the big
screen. You know, they're trying

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to push an amendment through to
knock down the First Amendment

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of all thing. Oh, yeah. That
little ditty? Yeah, Democrats.

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Yeah, I'm

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doing your music here. I'm doing
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I'm convinced that they're
clinically insane at this point.

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So I'm listening. I hear Jeff
Sessions go on with it. He's got

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a really good little, little
spiel. In fact, I may have a

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clip of it. You have sessions
there, I think so.

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I remember it coming through on
my Google Drive. No way. But I

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don't have sessions. I have Jeff
Sessions. Yep, got that. Play

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this.

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I just left. Simultaneous trip
with SA and environmental

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committee hearing in which one
of the witnesses that professor

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said he was severely damaged as
a result of his questioning of

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some of the global warming
arguments that are made out

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there. I think we're in a period
of time when speech is being

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threatened more than we would
like to admit political

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correctness has often run amok.

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Where's this guy from? Sessions?
What the state Alabama? Right.

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Well, I like what he's saying
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And it's fundamental. It's
actually this

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is this is his his little talk
at the first amendment.

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Amendment of the amendment. This
is in the Senate. Yeah. Is in

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the Senate. And, and so anyway,
play the rest of it, because it

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refers to two things that
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be able to express their views
without intimidation, I think

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the great democratic, did you

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just do a line of coke I have?
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was bloody combination. I think
the great,

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a lot of second, I'll be right
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The Democratic Party that was so
classically, liberal, is now

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becoming the party of the
progressives. And progressives

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tend to believe that little
things like tradition,

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procedures, rules, even
sometimes I think honesty can be

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subjected to the agenda that
they believe is best for

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America. And I'm telling you, I
think this is serious. And I

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feel it repeatedly in our
country. And in the debate that

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we're engaged in, I just think
tradition, and constitutional

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order should be respected. And
in the long run, we'll be better

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off. And we don't try to muzzle
somebody who happens to have

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money, and to keep him or her or
this business from being able to

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express views that they think
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maybe even their own interest.

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Okay, so I hear this and I say,
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stay on this topic before we
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three or four topics today,
they're gonna be a little over

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the top. It's very bothersome to
me. That's why I'm grumpy,

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grumpy,

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I wouldn't mind reading the
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and I think I sent you a link to
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notes already. It's very simple.
It's very simple. I'll just read

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it to you. There's two parts to
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parts, but two parts, one for
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it is, to advance the
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political equality for all and
to protect the integrity of the

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legislative and electoral
processes. Congress shall have

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power to regulate the raising
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kind equivalents with respect to
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through setting limits on one,
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candidates for nomination for
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federal office, and to and this
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amount of funds that may be
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opposition to such candidates.
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decided to go Open uh, you know,
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kids to run around and hold up
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legislated by Congress. Right?
That's a problem.

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Well, that's what everybody
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this is a big problem. But if
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to the opening, let's listen to
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list. And the only one

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I have is the one I thought
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Cruise. I got a couple of cruise
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dialogue.

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It's five minutes, but he
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minutes. That's how you go with
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Yeah, let's but it's funnier
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scenario the way it goes. Let me
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off to a bang with the Harry
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I had this. See, this is
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to him upfront, okay.

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Is there any member of this
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the status quo was good?
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using their own money to run for
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supports billionaires ability to
fund today's campaigns and

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independent expenditures. In
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quote in our society, he's
spending his speech, close

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quote. How could everyday
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to make their voices heard? If
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American families can't compete
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speech is based on how much
money you have. My Republican

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colleagues attempt to cloak
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in terms of noble principles.
They defend the money pumped

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into our system by the Koch
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I wasn't ready for I should have
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president,

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anyone to determine what the
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they have all these phantom
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now now they got a new one on
veterans. They've got one on

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senior citizens another name.
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phoney organisations that they
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system.

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This should be a song you got 15
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to hide who they really are. The
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wrong. Interested in there
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really did the wealthiest men in
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don't believe that. That for a
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one. And he's been that way for
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I had a very different look.
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clip from read. Okay, play it.

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In 1998. I had a very close
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spent about $10 million and we
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the Supreme Court again had left
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divert money into the state
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corporate money to be any kind
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denigrating the other person or
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money up.

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the complaint is almost stepped
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that was a bad situation I felt
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word.

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Unclean

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What a dick. Well, while he's
being unclean, I found this kind

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of like performance art using
these clips. Listen to this,

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this is crews outline this is
the clip crews outlines major

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donors he outlines the major
donors. They put a little this

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get some perspective on this and
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then he also excoriates Reed for
being a dick about the Koch

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brothers. Now it's

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interesting if you look at the
open secrets website, which I

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would note is a nonpartisan
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man does Cruz he's got a lot
going for him but his voice is

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not one of them. Oh my God. He
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was clenched up butthole Yeah,
he needs to work on that he just

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didn't make sense. Yes.

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Is there is his area addition is
good and his. His points are

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good in his in his stuff as well
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that squeaky voice comes across
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You just want to get a job or
something just want to get him

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off for you. It's like it sounds
like a slimy slug. Like

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the top 16 donors to campaigns
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Support predominantly Democrats
are on the fence. The top three

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donors are act blue, which has
spent over $102 million, the

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American American Federation of
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Employees which has spent over
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Education Association which has
spent over $58 million. Those

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are the top three Koch
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about their number 59. You know,
there's a pattern in politics

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where when governments trying to
take the liberty of the citizens

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away, they try to distract them
with shiny objects. So we've

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seen the Majority Leader
repeatedly slandering to private

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citizens, the Koch brothers on
the floor of the Senate, there's

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a rule in the Senate, that when
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the character of another
senator, you can rise on a point

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of personal privilege. And I
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unfortunately, no rule in the
Senate that allows a private

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citizen whose name is being
dragged through the mud by the

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Majority Leader of the Senate
for partisan political purposes

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to rise on that same point of
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You know, isn't there also a
Koch brother that is that is

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completely separated from two
there's a third Koch brother and

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he's like a complete Democrat?

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I don't know. Yeah, I

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think there is. I think there is
like some guy who

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knows that the main two Koch
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away goes to public public.

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Yeah, exactly. Yes. They

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the ballet and

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the arts, the arts, fun stuff.
Yeah. Good, fun stuff. The thing

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I have, I think we should just
take one second, because this is

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so obvious for us when we read a
joint resolution like this, or

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bill or an amendment that was
like, Well, why wouldn't you

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want to get money out of
politics or restrict that. And

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while there's validity to
campaign finance, and this is a

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campaign finance, a joint
resolution, in fact, it's called

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the to hear it's a joint
resolution proposing an

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amendment to the Constitution.
So this would be, you know, part

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of the top things like, you
know, like, freedom of the

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press, and freedom of speech and
freedom of worship, and religion

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and, and right to bear arms. And
all this, the against the, you

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know, search and seizure, this
is would be one of those, it

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would be a big one. And it's a
boon to the Constitution, the

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United States relating to
contributions and expenditures

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intended to affect elections.
But when you say, and they have

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at both the federal and they're
making provision for the state

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level, that Congress, I'll just
repeat it, it's important to

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understand exactly what's being
said otherwise, it's, you know,

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a lot of people will try and
shout you down, if this comes up

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in conversation. And they'll say
stuff like, that seems to work

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for some reason. But when it
literally says Congress shall

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have power to regulate the
raising and spending, so that's

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how you raise money and how you
spend it. And in kind

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equivalents, blow jobs, hookers,
anything like that, with respect

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to federal elections, including
through setting limits. So

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congressional limitations on how
you can how much money you can

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raise or spend, specifically for
the amount of contributions to

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the candidate, which I think
there's some validity to

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regulating that but to regulate
the amount of funds that may be

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spent by in support of or in
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which would mean everything else
that would mean me organising a

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rally. Of course, they it's
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spend and advertising spend on
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newspapers and interwebs. But
that would that literally would

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and I hate saying literally all
the time, but it is the literal

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meaning that it would not allow
you to speak above a certain

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level of money.

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Well, let's I do have a clip for
another crew Am I

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misinterpreting that?

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That's the one that sounds like
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no, you're actually you're,
you're you're downplaying it. In

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fact, the way that if you listen
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Free Speech attorney that was
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not exaggerating? That is what
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clip. This is Cruz again. And he
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thing except for the guy who
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money is speech clip, then this
is Ted Cruz. Okay.

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The second canard that's put
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shouldn't

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use words like canard, you know,
duck has nothing to do with it.

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Like the word canard is not a
good word. And it's not

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Americans go would Yeah, well,
if you want to communicate to

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people that don't use French,

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you do if they hire the Dvorak
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Consulting, we could change. I
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turn him down. I'm sorry. He's
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can help him. But he does have

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a good point. Here he comes

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that's been repeated over and
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note, any first year law student
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answer on an exam would receive
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demonstrably false and it has
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Republic speech is not just
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on the sidewalk. From the
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expenditure of money has been
integral to speech. Supreme

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Court has said that pamphlets
the Federalist Papers and Thomas

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Paine's common sense took money
to print and distribute, putting

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up yard signs putting up bumper
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podcast website and wondering
those requires the expenditures

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of money. I guarantee you every
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about it disagrees with the
proposition that expending money

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is not speech publishing a book
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speech blogging is speech. Every
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modern society requires the
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citizens

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saps slang. Yeah, that's the
whole point. Shut up.

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And by the way, how can we
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This is why the guy's beyond
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because Nard Bonjour, John, oh,
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So sorry, I didn't mean to do
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Anyway, so Harry Reid comes down
and does his spiel. And then

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Mitch McConnell does the follow
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this is short. I hope so. The
Mitch McConnell?

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No, no, this is seven minutes
and 43 seconds. I can't be this

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short isn't designed to only
play until I say stop. Very

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Given
how and credibly behead this

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proposed amendment is I can't
blame my friend, the majority

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leader from wanting to talk
about things like the Koch

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brothers, or what I may know, a
quarter of a century ago. I'm

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going to confine my remarks at
what's before us. And I want to

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start by thanking Senator
Grassley for an absolutely

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outstanding observation about
what the First Amendment was

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supposed to be about. And at the
very core of it, of course, was

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political speech. Americans from
all walks of life understand how

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extraordinary how
extraordinarily special the

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First Amendment is. Like the
founders, they know that the

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free exchange of ideas and the
ability to criticise their

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government are necessary for our
democracy to survive. Benjamin

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Franklin noted that quote,
whoever would overthrow the

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liberty of a nation must begin
by subduing the freeness as he

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put it, the freedom of speech is
enough the first one

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he goes on and it makes some
good points but But what would

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cruise again the guy he's the
one who comes out with this,

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that's the long speech I took
just a little bit he made this

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long play. It was very emotional
is very good. I have the first

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part and here's the here's the
you have to endure this. This is

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the bit cruise comes out and
then he has to go to these guys

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are coming in and out in and out
doing voting someplace else.

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Cruise comes in and then he goes
out and then Schumer comes on in

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excoriates him pretending to be
talking to him. But he's not

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there. But he's not there yet,
but he's not there. For me. He

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doesn't say he's not there at
some point later. But at that,

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but he's looking over as though
he's talking to him. And this is

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solely for sound, but not sound
bites but video but

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just just to get it on the news.
And, and I I'm sorry.

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Well, I was gonna also say at
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hearing, which was packed,
packed hearing, there were a

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bunch of people with signage,
you know, brothers out there

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basically. And so the news media
there's about 25 camera guys

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there and they all flocked into
the aisles and had these people

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hold up their signs and then
shoot pick it up,

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just to get that just to file it
quickly. All right, it's good to

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get that in. Alright, good.

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But it's against the rules to
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And so they all put their signs
away immediately and then, but

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they may they're gonna

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know what that is. That's a
farce. So far. It's a farce,

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which is just the beginning of a
Konar.

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Well, I don't know about the
canard part. But let's listen to

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the end of Cruz. Oh,

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you don't want to play Schumer,
you want to go straight to Khan.

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I want to play Cruz first.
Again, we're filming for the

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motions. He's gotta go on this
cruise part one, then we play

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Schumer. Then we played Karthik.
Alright, good. This amendment,

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if adopted would give Congress
the power to ban books and to

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ban movies. And by the way,
Citizens United was about

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finding a movie maker who made a
movie critical of Hillary

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Clinton. Mr. Chairman, Ray
Bradbury would be astonished

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because we are seeing Fahrenheit
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American people should be angry
about this. And, Mr. Chairman,

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the senators who put their name
to this shouldn't be embarrassed

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that they have signed up for
repealing the Free Speech

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amendments to the First
Amendment that

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they have the entire speech
which I'll put in the show notes

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that people can go listen to the
whole thing. But I didn't know

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that Citizens United was that
that's what that case was About

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I didn't realise that

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there's also another explanation
here that the guy what's his

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name, though? One character from
Utah, the older guy, he had a

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little heat effect, we can take
a little aside here and play the

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this is worth listening to so we
can get people straightened out

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and Citizens United. This is the
explanation citizen explained

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Citizens United just quickly,
and he asked these asking Abrams

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and the other guy that testify
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his prepared statement,
Professor Raskin says that the

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Supreme Court's decision in
Citizens United versus Fe C,

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eliminated the statutory
provision, quote, that kept

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trillions of dollars in
corporate wealth from flowing

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into federal campaigns, unquote.
I think that's a misleading

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description of the case. As I
read it, the Citizens United

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case involved a nonprofit
organisation, not a wealthy for

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profit corporation and the case
did not involve campaign

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contributions at all. Am I
right?

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Yes, it didn't. It did not
involve contributions at all.

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And it left standing, the
contribution section. So

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also have we seen a flood of
corporate wealth flowing into

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federal campaign since a citizen
United committed decision?

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We have seen a lot of
individuals getting money.

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That's where the big money has
come from. We have seen an

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increase in the amount of money
from what I'd call Main Street

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rather than Wall Street. What
we've not seen is precisely what

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was predicted. We have not seen
enormous sums, let alone

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trillions of dollars from the
biggest companies in America,

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flowing into the electoral
process. That just hasn't

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happened. Oh.

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Okay. Well, no. I've been
misinformed.

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You've been missing? Everyone's
been misinformed. Now here comes

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Schumer after the this is like
the few testimonies after Cruz's

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gone, Schumer steps into just to
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Senator Cruz says that we should
be embarrassed about this

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amendment. I'll tell you,
Senator Cruz, I'm embarrassed

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about how our system is
distorted by literally now

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billions of dollars coming into
this system undisclosed

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unregulated and unanswered. And
Senator Cruz, maybe he fancies

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himself to be a constitutional
expert. He knows that no

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amendment is absolute. He's a
constitutional lawyer. His

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rhetoric. His over the top
rhetoric here makes it seem like

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if you support this amendment,
you're against the First

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Amendment. Well, I want to ask
you Senator Cruz Are you against

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anti child pornography laws?
He's not here. But would he be

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against anti child pornography
laws does that make him against

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the First Amendment is he an
absolutist on the First

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Amendment

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wow he's now comparing
pornography to campaign support

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and interesting

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because he against the ability
to falsely screen file that you

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should does he think everyone
should be false allowed to

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falsely screen files false what

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he's doing like a false double
negative upset he's

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upset. I want to I want to hear
what he's trying to

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say against the ability to
falsely screen file that you

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should write does he think
everyone should be false allowed

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to falsely scream fire in a
crowded theatre

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falsely scream fire? Well,

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and if anyone's opposed to that,
are they opposed to?

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Well, okay, uh, no, I think he's
got a point. I think that you

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should not be allowed to yell
fire in a theatre, but you

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shouldn't be in the middle of a
love scene be allowed to yell.

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The whole first amendment and
against free speech. libel laws.

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If you're for libel laws, does
that Oh, how

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about bullying? Yeah, yeah, that

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mean you're against free speech.
And you're against the First

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Amendment and

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there's a bunch of anyway you
stopped. It's almost

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done. I like it. I want to hear
the rest of this good.

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thing not. We have always had
balancing tests for every

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amendment. Some of my colleagues
on the other side I know don't

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believe there should be one for
the Second Amendment. I believe

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there should but I believe
there's a right to bear arms.

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What

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what is he that was just say,
when did that just happen?

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The second amendment I believe
there should but I believe

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there's a right to bear arms.
And I don't like seeing it

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through a pinhole but that's
neither here nor there. Always

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had balancing tests for every
golfer children,

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that's what he's that's what
he's doing.

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He's nuts. So I think he's
behind this amendment. By the

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way. He's signatories. He's not
one of the later signatories.

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Let me see. Let me see. Let's
take a

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look. The first group, the first
group, which will be there all

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day by date, you can look at him
so this is from Udall Yeah. Tom

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Udall the dumbest guy in
Congress. He's used as the

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frontman. I think Schumer used
them. Let's see Um picture that

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I put in the newsletter of him a
guy looks like his IQ is nine.

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Okay so the the first sign up
we're Harkin yep and Schumer

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Yep. And Shaheen she's from
Delaware white Why are you so

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judgmental?

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Oh my god it's no different
coming

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from Hawaii that's that's the
we've heard her talk about the

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interwebs. Yeah. Tester from
Massachusetts. Oh and our

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favourite of course boxer. Your
girlfriend there from where she

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from now Minnesota Minnesota

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versus our California why I'm
sorry California I

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don't know why said Minnesota,
California. Then we have a coons

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Delaware and King Angus King.
These are all these were all on

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the 18th Murphy widen. Franken
Of course.

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Franken on the wrong side of
this

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club club Car

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Club. Amy.

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And then of course we have the
adults and after that came

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Johnson Menendez. Yeah, they all
came. Jack Reed Blumenthal, too.

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Are there any Republicans
Republicans on this or just all

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Democrats? Right?

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Yeah, it's actually two
independents, including.

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So all these people should be a
you they need to be as what's

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the word? Get out next.
excoriated,

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excoriated, excoriated by five
minutes later, maybe longer,

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Cruz comes back. He sits down
and I guess he was briefed on

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what Schumer had said, and
here's what is this just a short

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part of it. Here's what Cruz has
to say.

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I'm gonna recognise Senator
Cruz. I think Senator Hatch has

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already asked, I'll recognise
Senator Cruz and as Senator

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Franken, if he would come up
here and preside over the vote

455
00:26:57,150 --> 00:27:00,150
on the franking gets to hold the
gavel, he loves that he loves

456
00:27:00,150 --> 00:27:03,150
being the boss. Gosh, he gets
all beanie and stuff.

457
00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:08,820
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I
recognise you. At the outset,

458
00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:13,980
I'd like to say I understand
that in my absence. Senator

459
00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:20,370
Schumer, very kindly, gave a
lecture on civility and

460
00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:27,270
encouraged me not to go over the
top. While he then in the same

461
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:31,050
breath, accused me of supporting
child pornography. So I

462
00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:35,760
appreciate that demonstration
and senatorial restraint from

463
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,180
the senior senator from New
York. Let me say to the members

464
00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,580
of this panel, welcome. Thank
you for joining us.

465
00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:45,360
He's a good lawyer, and a
lawyer. He's a lawyer, his

466
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,530
wife's Goldman Sachs, or I mean,
the guy is, he could not be more

467
00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:54,090
perfect GOP. What he's just done
makes you feel so icky, and

468
00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:57,540
swarmy in there, but that long,

469
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:01,290
that's good. You know who he was
listening to his voice after you

470
00:28:01,290 --> 00:28:04,380
pointed out? You know, he sounds
almost like exactly like,

471
00:28:04,740 --> 00:28:08,490
although you'd have most people
we don't have a close at hand in

472
00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:13,500
Eclipse. But Joe McCarthy, Joe
McCarthy, the guy who started

473
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:15,750
all those hearings about the
communist and waving empty

474
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:18,660
sheets of paper and doing all
this other stuff, he has exactly

475
00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:20,670
the same voice I'm gonna have to
credit find from

476
00:28:20,670 --> 00:28:26,370
the 50s. really well, but wasn't
that just I think that's because

477
00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:29,670
of the microphones back in the
day. So I mean, he's doing it

478
00:28:29,670 --> 00:28:32,610
naturally. We have a little bit
of Joe McCarthy that I can play

479
00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:38,040
for you from. This is June
9 1954, at the army McCarthy

480
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:47,760
hearings. Now, it's your right.
Crew sounds like he's talking

481
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,260
through a 1950s microphone and
broadcast system. That's very

482
00:28:52,260 --> 00:28:56,700
hard to emulate. Yeah, that's
that's what it is. It's nothing

483
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:57,300
else.

484
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:01,740
Interest I got one more cruise
clip if you want to play it. So

485
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,580
I'd like to

486
00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:07,320
point out that I have had CNN on
here on the desktop, but

487
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,590
throughout the the what are we
now we're 29 minutes into the

488
00:29:10,590 --> 00:29:16,740
programme. And not a single peep
about this hearing. Not a

489
00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:21,780
soundbite not a lower third, not
a nothing. It's all about what a

490
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:25,680
gunmen was dressed in fatigues.
It's all about other

491
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,500
distractions of minor
infractions. Yeah, it sucks when

492
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:32,910
someone gets killed. This is not
good. But these are very

493
00:29:32,910 --> 00:29:37,620
important issues that are just
completely and I would believe

494
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:39,270
purposely being ignored.

495
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,580
Yeah, I would say so. So welcome
to

496
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:42,570
your podcast.

497
00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:47,400
Well, I mean, Mitch McConnell
did say even though they have

498
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,420
all these co signers for this
thing, he says, this is not

499
00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:54,120
going to ever get passed. I
mean, the house of block it for

500
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,460
sure. But the even the Senate
there's a number of Democrats

501
00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:02,310
that are to say Ansible to vote
for this thing. So they they

502
00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:04,710
probably lose 10 of them,
because they don't have all the

503
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:09,060
Democrats they only have 4040 to
40 because two of them are

504
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:12,600
independent. So anyway, I just
want to play one more little

505
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,150
cruise thing because I was he
was on a roll and I thought this

506
00:30:15,150 --> 00:30:18,240
was good because he this is one
of the few things where he he

507
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,360
actually finishes it off with a
blogger thing. And I'm thinking

508
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,910
is that really a good thing but
the third

509
00:30:23,910 --> 00:30:24,870
could not canard is

510
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:29,040
that corner and I'm telling you
this, this is an issue of no

511
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,430
rights

512
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:33,120
that gets repeated an awful lot.
Again, you'd get an F in law

513
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,450
school if you if you embrace
that position. The New York

514
00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:41,430
Times is a corporation. CBS is a
corporation, Paramount Pictures

515
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:44,460
and Simon and Schuster
corporations. The Sierra Club is

516
00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:48,360
a corporation the NRA is a
corporation that NAACP is a

517
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,380
corporation Ramadasa is a
corporation. None of the people

518
00:30:52,380 --> 00:30:55,800
who say corporations have no
rights would possibly suggest

519
00:30:55,950 --> 00:31:00,000
that well Congress can then
prevent the NAACP from speaking

520
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,150
can prevent La Raza from
speaking can muzzle the New York

521
00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:09,570
Times. That position is
obviously false. Nobody has

522
00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:13,530
disagreed with the litany of
harms that could occur if

523
00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:16,830
Congress passed this bill the
ability to muzzle citizens to

524
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:19,140
muzzle labour unions from
organising because that's an in

525
00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:25,170
kind expenditure, the ability to
silence bloggers oh my god that

526
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:25,680
is on.

527
00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:32,610
I was thinking about this
actually makes it an interesting

528
00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:35,250
point. Because when you watch
democracy now or any of these

529
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,950
shows, they go on about the evil
corporations but they don't

530
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:41,520
discuss it you never bring up
the nonprofit's and the

531
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,960
evil corporation. It's if you
really boil it down. The only

532
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,530
thing everybody's pissed off
about our earth by are the Koch

533
00:31:49,530 --> 00:31:49,950
brothers.

534
00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:55,530
That's what it's about. It's
about so here's my suggestion.

535
00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:58,860
I've been thinking about this.
We should kill the Koch brothers

536
00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:02,580
just arrest them, kill them and
be done with I mean, I'm sure we

537
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:06,330
can come up with some kind of
amendment or SIC the IRS on him

538
00:32:06,330 --> 00:32:09,270
just I'm sure they've done
something illegal somewhere like

539
00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:12,420
Al Capone, I'm sure we can get
them on something. Go ahead and

540
00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:15,360
do it. Just please go get the
Koch brothers throw me in the

541
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,020
judge. Oh, after hear this? Oh,
man, it would just be so nice.

542
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,840
I'm gonna call you back. John. I
can feel the thing is like

543
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,200
cutting out

544
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:24,270
giving up on you. Just a little
bit.

545
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:38,670
Wow, will just do this Koch
brothers. We go and, and lost my

546
00:32:38,670 --> 00:32:42,930
mouse. There's no evidence
people want to use that thing

547
00:32:42,930 --> 00:32:43,680
anyway. So

548
00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,390
that's true. It's a fact.

549
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,730
Well, that was a good run.

550
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,450
I was too deep into this thing.
This little shaggy dog story

551
00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:54,300
because I began with the
sessions thing saying so when

552
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:59,460
sessions mention the the guy
being excoriated in front of a

553
00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:04,590
subcommittee. I call sessions
office ah, as you as you would

554
00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:07,680
do, as I would do, and I asked
for one of the assistants that

555
00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:10,470
they answer some questions
about. And it's funny, they're

556
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:13,950
very amenable did senators not
so much as the representatives,

557
00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:15,960
the people in the house, I
believe,

558
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:18,720
never get called. They're so
happy when you Oh, it's Joe.

559
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,950
John's calling again? Oh,

560
00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:23,040
anybody's calling. They think
it's great. The senators are

561
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,670
busy. And I think many of them
are cheap. So they don't have

562
00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:27,330
big staff.

563
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,850
Because Jeff Sessions office.

564
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:34,560
Yeah, I have a couple of
questions.

565
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,620
Yes. How can I help you? Oh, you
sound like Mr. Dvorak. The C

566
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,750
stands for capslock. How're you
doin? John? I'd

567
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:42,600
like to know what the what the
theme is pretty good. I'd like

568
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,190
to know what the meeting was at
sessions let he was at talking

569
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:51,570
at the amendment meeting for the
kids. You get to

570
00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:53,520
the point. You're really
confusing me?

571
00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:56,160
No, no, no, he's he was at this
campaign finance. And he

572
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,260
mentioned that he was at
something else. And he came

573
00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:00,810
running in and he I wanted to
know what that other where he

574
00:34:00,810 --> 00:34:04,440
was. Oh, yeah. What was it? And?
Well, that's what I want to

575
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,610
know. What was the committee
name?

576
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,260
I don't know. Well, can

577
00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:08,250
you find out? Yeah,

578
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:09,540
sure. Can I get back to you?

579
00:34:10,110 --> 00:34:13,260
No, actually, she says, can I
put you on hold? Oh, that's

580
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:16,950
nice. Now normally when you call
up one of these offices that

581
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:20,850
they have a bunch of assistants
and one is oh Jerry would know

582
00:34:20,850 --> 00:34:24,600
about that. And she and she
Jerry will call you back and but

583
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,890
no this apparently there's one
girl in Washington was doing was

584
00:34:28,890 --> 00:34:33,750
doing everything. So answering
the phone doing research. So she

585
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:39,060
didn't really help me as much as
a representative but she turned

586
00:34:39,060 --> 00:34:42,990
me on to something I didn't know
about okay, which is that all

587
00:34:42,990 --> 00:34:44,760
the major committees

588
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:47,190
you need to back off from the
mic one hair, you're just your

589
00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:48,810
your overdrive.

590
00:34:49,049 --> 00:34:52,409
All the she pointed out that all
these committees and

591
00:34:52,409 --> 00:34:56,429
subcommittees have a website,
which is very much like the

592
00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:58,769
Google website where you invoice
by Google. So you do

593
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,630
do you do sessions.house.net
session? So it'd be

594
00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:07,620
like, subcommittee
name.senate.gov. Okay, and you

595
00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:11,520
get there and there's a big day
we have over the years, I

596
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:17,100
suppose, catalogued all their
meetings with video. Oh, no, you

597
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:20,700
kidding me? And is not video
that C span place. It's just

598
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:24,420
just raw video of these
meetings, all of them. Ah, like

599
00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:28,830
the dipshit meeting of the year,
there is a video of it. You just

600
00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:31,080
have to know what when it
happened. You can look them up

601
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,930
by date. Huh? So I ran over and
I said this was a problem now.

602
00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:38,130
Because there is a

603
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,790
plethora, is there an index
somewhere? Is there a searchable

604
00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:43,740
index of the sessions that you
can find I

605
00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:46,440
know of but you if you know what
the subcommittee is or the

606
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,920
committee that's holding that
has that owns the subcommittee,

607
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,280
you can get there. You can get
to any one of these things that

608
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,830
they've done, or you can I think
you've just ways of looking it

609
00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:59,640
up. But Google search, possibly,
whatever the case is, there's a

610
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040
tonne of stuff that never gets
played.

611
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:05,430
And you went in the guy and
recorded something for

612
00:36:05,850 --> 00:36:11,910
some of these things. It's like
it's a goldmine. All right. I'll

613
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:14,100
play some of this stuff later in
the show when we get off of

614
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,910
these topics, which is was
environmental committee about

615
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:21,360
the coal, and it was four guys
only four guys, two Democrats,

616
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,400
two opponents, either small
committees and but they bring

617
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,580
these experts in, and these
experts ciac away and it's all

618
00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:31,890
there. And so this is now a
bottomless pit of new material

619
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:32,520
for us.

620
00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:36,090
And I have a clip here from one
of the sessions that sometimes

621
00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:40,050
fascism benefits that came from

622
00:36:42,810 --> 00:36:48,330
anyway, back to the there was a
maybe have one or two I mean, I

623
00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:51,270
got too many clips on this
freedom of speech thing, Frank

624
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:54,390
and went off the deep end. And
Frank and Frank, His thing was

625
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:55,800
disingenuous.

626
00:36:55,830 --> 00:36:58,350
I like I don't mind listening to
him because I like laughing

627
00:36:58,350 --> 00:36:59,130
about him. And

628
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,950
he comes on at first he does
some stick.

629
00:37:01,950 --> 00:37:04,680
Well, it's time to reiterate for
people who are too young to know

630
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:10,200
probably, that Al Franken was a
comedian and actor, I would say

631
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,740
comedian more than actor. Yeah,
he's a comedian. And he most

632
00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:17,640
famously, was on Saturday Night
Live for many, many seasons, I

633
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,210
think, years and years, wasn't
he? Yeah, on for a long time.

634
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:25,350
And he and he had the Stuart
Smalley bid, which was kind of

635
00:37:25,350 --> 00:37:28,770
cute. And, and sometimes he
would be he would if you give

636
00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:31,110
them the right minds, he's good.
But he kind of thinks he's

637
00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:32,190
funny. He

638
00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:36,780
is funny, but he does possess.
And you at the beginning of

639
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:39,690
this, I think you have that back
and forth with sessions then

640
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,350
that you talked about your
reference, but we'd haven't

641
00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:46,050
played a clip about. He does a
little back and forth with

642
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:49,950
sessions. Because he's been a
professional comic. He may not

643
00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:53,370
be funny, per se, but he will
have an absolute sense of

644
00:37:53,370 --> 00:37:56,220
timing. So he can get laughs

645
00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:59,220
that way. Oh, yeah. No, he's got
the time. This is Franken and

646
00:37:59,220 --> 00:37:59,760
play that one.

647
00:37:59,850 --> 00:38:01,710
Rankin Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

648
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,210
Thank you. The recognise myself.

649
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:09,210
Just heard you recognise
yourself.

650
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:11,790
I do. Look in the mirror. I
recognise my

651
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,840
seat. And now he's doing the
small Lee bit. Yeah, look, and

652
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,530
I'm, I'm uncapable. He was a
writer of the chatroom points

653
00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:22,980
out correctly that he was mainly
a writer on the show, which is

654
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,010
makes sense. And I recognise
myself here.

655
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,320
I knew you would handle that.
Definitely.

656
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:31,890
And of course, the other guys
are all like, Hey, I'm I'm doing

657
00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:37,560
improv. I'm doing improv with
Frank and let me do this is the

658
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,400
definition of a canard right
there. Thank you did thank you.

659
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,550
If so did you ah, painful.

660
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,280
It's good to see you. Mr.
Abrams, you actually depend on

661
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,300
me on a First Amendment case.
And I did. And you won with a

662
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:57,780
brilliant.

663
00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:01,680
Thank you. I remember what you
said to me after I won. What did

664
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,200
I say? Even a chip could have
won that case.

665
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:07,770
The doing stick that's pretty
good.

666
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,880
And I was right.

667
00:39:14,130 --> 00:39:18,660
Wow. Okay, that's good. All
right. He winds back points with

668
00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:21,420
me on this by your

669
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:27,000
brilliant lawyer. And I noticed
that in your testimony, your

670
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,580
written testimony and Professor
Raskin, I want you to speak to

671
00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:34,350
this. Mr. Abrams says that
appear that it quote appears

672
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,730
that Citizens United has not
caused a flood of new money in

673
00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:44,400
politics. He says twice actually
uses the word twice. It appears

674
00:39:44,430 --> 00:39:50,970
that way. Now, from my
experience, I know Mr. Abrams is

675
00:39:50,970 --> 00:39:56,280
an excellent lawyer. So I know
he chooses his words carefully.

676
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,050
When he says that it appears
that way because there's really

677
00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:07,440
no way that we know. There's
really no way that we know. And

678
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:12,300
Mr. Abrams himself has said that
he is for getting rid of all

679
00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:17,130
limits entirely. When we're
talking about intimidation about

680
00:40:17,130 --> 00:40:22,170
speech, suppose a corporation
comes up and there's no limits

681
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:31,020
and says to a senator, if you
vote this way on this bill, we

682
00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:41,100
will spend $100 million to
defeat you. That's fine. Isn't

683
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:45,630
that fine? I mean, it's
according to this logic.

684
00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:48,810
Yeah. It's okay. That's just
free speech. Look on the

685
00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:49,920
empirical question. Let

686
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,350
me just say this Oh, no. And
then they can either put the 100

687
00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:55,080
million in or not, they don't
even have to put it in to

688
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,190
intimidate you. What's

689
00:40:57,510 --> 00:41:01,110
the the numbers that I've seen
have gone up dramatically. And

690
00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:04,350
the numbers that we haven't seen
the 501 C fours, the social

691
00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:07,950
welfare groups, the C sixes that
trade association to the dark

692
00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:09,900
money, you know, the ASOs.

693
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,740
Okay, that's Raskin who just one
sec, can I can

694
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:17,580
ask you a? Can I ask you a
question of conscience? And

695
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,510
well, I make one observation
before you ask the question, of

696
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:23,700
course, of course is how is this
any different than what happens

697
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:25,950
today when the Sierra Club goes
up to you and says, if you're

698
00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:27,870
not for global warming, we're
gonna defeat you.

699
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:29,760
Right? The only thing that's
different is the only thing is

700
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,790
differences. Is he saying $100
million instead of 10, or

701
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:35,460
whatever? And that is the
question I'm going to ask

702
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:40,470
because I believe that if the
system works, as it I think it

703
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:45,840
does, and these end our
representatives in Congress are

704
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,220
indeed our representatives and
money represents voice and

705
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:56,280
speech, etc. I think you know,
if there truly is some rule that

706
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,270
is so egregious to put into
place if you would have to buy

707
00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:06,660
off votes for hundreds of
millions of dollars. This would

708
00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:11,100
be something of such magnitude
and outrage. If you couldn't

709
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:14,100
just get it done. I mean, you
know, how much money to make

710
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:18,180
$100 million back. This is not
this is not easy.

711
00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:24,120
This is a bogus argument. This
is a specious argument. This is

712
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,940
what he's doing it Yeah, it
makes some logical sense in the

713
00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:30,390
in the in the this is a remember
the clip we played against

714
00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:33,600
fantasy land, because in Oregon
Candyland, because it doesn't.

715
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,830
Why can't people think the
worst? Remember that clip from

716
00:42:37,830 --> 00:42:42,870
Bill Moyers? I don't understand
why people can't see the worst

717
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:46,320
case scenario and live by that
thinking.

718
00:42:46,350 --> 00:42:48,570
Alright, can I um, can I move
us? Can I transition us here

719
00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:53,490
from this to something else?
Anything? Okay. So why do we

720
00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:56,640
have to listen to these
arguments about $100 million,

721
00:42:57,930 --> 00:43:04,200
when not a single second is
spent on a promise. And the

722
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,210
promise has a name wouldn't give
you the name? The European

723
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:14,760
Reassurance Initiative, also
known as the E ri, which our

724
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,210
president said, Oh, I'm gonna go
get a billion dollars to put war

725
00:43:18,210 --> 00:43:19,710
crap here in Poland.

726
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:23,610
I've come here, first and
foremost, to reaffirm the

727
00:43:23,610 --> 00:43:26,130
enduring commitment of the
United States to the security of

728
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:26,490
Poland

729
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:32,070
enduring commitment. I know I'm
sorry. I like Polish people. But

730
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:34,110
when did I become responsible
for them? We're on

731
00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:37,050
track with our missile defence
programme including interceptor

732
00:43:37,050 --> 00:43:43,080
sites here. Yeah, as we saw this
morning, our American aviation

733
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,890
detachment. Here is the first
regular presence of US forces,

734
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,880
Team America, continuously
rotate additional personnel and

735
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,480
aircrafts rotating in the
Baltics. We will be expanding

736
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,960
our exercises and training with
allies to increase the readiness

737
00:43:57,990 --> 00:44:02,700
of our forces bringing President
Komorowski is a great champion

738
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:06,300
of the effort to modernise the
Polish military and we welcome

739
00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:10,230
the announcement that he just
made about an even greater

740
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:13,380
commitment bringing it home will
increase the number of American

741
00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:17,280
personnel Army and Air Force
units continuously rotating

742
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,150
through allied countries in
Central Yeah, calling on

743
00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:24,270
Congress to approve up to $1
billion to support this effort.

744
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:30,090
Yeah $1 billion to put war
machinery into Poland and

745
00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:35,190
meanwhile we're screaming
there's not a single person is

746
00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:41,670
even bothered by this even
bothered bother show it to show

747
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:44,910
me the report this you had to
get this off of C span just to

748
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:51,150
just to get a clip. And then and
and then we have oh I'm trying

749
00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:56,940
to contain myself. A Victoria
Nudelman All right. Nuland is

750
00:44:56,940 --> 00:44:59,670
what she calls herself who have
and how many times have I said

751
00:44:59,670 --> 00:45:03,510
she's married? Robert Kagan was
Frederick Craig ins brother the

752
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:08,100
P net guy, one of the people who
got us. I have to keep reminding

753
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:13,020
people. Yes you do. And she goes
up on stage and she's just and

754
00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:16,410
she's got a little suit on and
you know her little sailor suit,

755
00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:18,930
you know the one with the blue
with a white stripes. Yeah, it

756
00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:21,090
looks good on her. By the way,
the sailor suit looks she looks

757
00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:23,820
good with the sailor. She does,
and carries off to the side

758
00:45:23,820 --> 00:45:27,900
beaming with pride and her
husband, you wave. But her

759
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:34,680
husband Robert, is on stage with
her. And Carrie now Robert Kagan

760
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,230
is not a politician. He is a
professor. And he on stage.

761
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:46,140
Well, he's her husband. And she
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And he works

762
00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:49,320
for the FBI, the foreign policy
Policy Institute, I think which

763
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,090
is a it's like the project for
New American Century it is the

764
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,700
think tank that will get us into
Eurasia or thwart anything that

765
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:06,090
that that our evil guy is doing.
Just a little quick montage of

766
00:46:06,090 --> 00:46:10,950
her about how he or she just ah,
this is a Renaissance, the

767
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:14,580
renaissance in Europe,
everybody. It's the European

768
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:17,610
Reassurance Renaissance
Initiative. And then she thanks

769
00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:18,210
her husband.

770
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,930
What's required is a
transatlantic renaissance, a new

771
00:46:21,930 --> 00:46:22,980
burst of energy.

772
00:46:24,090 --> 00:46:27,630
Can you feel like Europe we're
giving you a burst of energy we

773
00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:27,960
have

774
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,870
to be that beacon. Where are
your began? Together we must

775
00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:37,380
lead or we will see the things
that we value and our global

776
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:39,780
interest. Influence recede.

777
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,890
Oh, okay, we have to lead so we
don't receive interesting it

778
00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:46,320
means funding, equipping and
training our militaries to be

779
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,500
ready to defend our freedom and
advance our security interests

780
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:50,520
wherever they are needed.

781
00:46:51,090 --> 00:46:55,470
Fuck Hillary make her President
defend our freedom. Our military

782
00:46:55,470 --> 00:47:01,350
must be at the ready for the EU,
for we must be your right to go.

783
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:08,550
And abroad, there is no place
where our generosity and our

784
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:12,420
experience and our ideals are
more needed today than on

785
00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:16,620
Europe's own periphery. Hello,
Europe.

786
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:22,020
She actually said Poland. Hello.
Hello, Europe.

787
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:28,020
You need us. We're coming.
Alright, and now she thanks her

788
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:28,470
husband.

789
00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:32,820
And finally my Kagan he's my
Mars. He's my Venus. He's my

790
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:35,430
planet Earth. Um, so

791
00:47:36,029 --> 00:47:39,269
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
hold on a sec. I think this.

792
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,230
I know.

793
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:46,440
She says she's my Mars Venus and
her planet planet Earth. Yeah.

794
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,960
Did she then if she got or she
has sun? What is she? She

795
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,790
Yeah, good question in
relationship

796
00:47:53,790 --> 00:47:55,230
to this. Let's have planets.
Listen

797
00:47:55,230 --> 00:47:56,400
again. Elaine, my Kagan.

798
00:47:56,759 --> 00:48:01,979
My Kagan I think we should your
mind Dvorak. I am your curry.

799
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,490
He is my Mars. He's my Venus.
He's my planet Earth.

800
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,600
He's my Mars. He's my Vin. This
is my So Mars Venus. What are we

801
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,450
missing mercury. She might be
mercury.

802
00:48:13,650 --> 00:48:16,170
Why would it do there's no
relationship between Mercury

803
00:48:16,170 --> 00:48:17,190
planet Earth, Mars and

804
00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:17,910
Venus. I

805
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:23,880
know. She either has to be the
moon, or the sun or God in some

806
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,420
way.

807
00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:28,470
She's thinking of song lyrics
like, I'm your Venus. I don't

808
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:31,380
know what she's thinking. But
would you listen that whole

809
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:31,800
video?

810
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,370
By the way? They don't want to
dwell on this, but I will. Yeah.

811
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:39,600
Why would there be three things?
Why can't he just be he's my

812
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,200
beacon or is my son or he's my
he's my light that this? You

813
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,300
know, she's I don't know why
she's even being this corny, but

814
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,630
she is. Why does it have to be
Mars and Venus and planet? Why

815
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:50,970
does it have to be three things?
What is the deal with that?

816
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:55,560
Well, obviously, obviously,
she's MK Ultra. Obviously Kagan

817
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,810
has a completely under his
control. And she is the

818
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,050
assistant. I think that you
address her as Ambassador

819
00:49:01,050 --> 00:49:06,720
actually, she is the assistant
or Deputy Secretary of State it

820
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,600
listen. Let me let me look. I
think you have to address her as

821
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,290
ambassador.

822
00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:11,490
I don't know.

823
00:49:12,930 --> 00:49:15,390
Let's check. Let's if we're
gonna make fun of reminders.

824
00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:17,880
We'll make fun of her properly
with a proper title. I believe

825
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,360
she is Deputy Assistant
Secretary is what it's called,

826
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,580
but not just assistant
secretary. She's Assistant

827
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:29,610
Secretary for European and
Eurasian Affairs. That's a big

828
00:49:29,610 --> 00:49:32,040
deal. And and we know that she
is

829
00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:36,480
how did she go from spokes hole
to that?

830
00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:43,170
Yes, that's a very short path,
but it's obvious you know, we

831
00:49:43,170 --> 00:49:46,710
already knew she was the I mean,
every Assistant Secretary of

832
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:49,980
State for European and Eurasian
Affairs does stuff like this

833
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,610
fuck that you. That's right.
That's how that's how you act as

834
00:49:59,610 --> 00:50:02,490
an American Okay, and she's
being controlled by the Kagan

835
00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:06,570
her Kagan. It's not my husband,
my love of my life, you know,

836
00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:09,090
we're accepting an award and why
is she even doing that? But

837
00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:12,810
okay? She just said I'm going to
bring, I'm going to bring them

838
00:50:12,810 --> 00:50:16,920
bad and nasty to Europe. I'm
bringing it. I'm bringing the

839
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,180
army, I'm bringing force. I'm
bringing a renaissance, a burst

840
00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:24,630
of energy, and it's all thanks
to my Kagan periphery.

841
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,040
And finally, my Kagan he is my
Mars he's My Venus. He's my

842
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:29,910
planet Earth.

843
00:50:30,090 --> 00:50:32,910
If I ever wouldn't award that's
what I'm going to say. And

844
00:50:32,910 --> 00:50:38,520
finally, my Kagan he is my Mars
is my Venus He's my manager Mike

845
00:50:38,550 --> 00:50:42,450
Hagen might know it's his name
is Robert it's my Kagan maybe

846
00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:47,880
it's me His nickname is Mike.
No, no, no, my Kagan you're

847
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,760
right Kagan with these people
are all insane John you're

848
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,910
absolutely right today take it
freely. Are you sure wait

849
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:57,810
the Mars Venus and come on I
can't top that I get tonnes of

850
00:50:57,810 --> 00:50:59,430
clips but there's no way to top
that

851
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:04,350
what am I top that my son my top
my own Clip of the Day. All

852
00:51:04,350 --> 00:51:07,140
right. Now if you think the
American

853
00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:11,760
Cagin my son my moon, she's this
woman is clinically insane.

854
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,350
These are the people running is
not enough.

855
00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:17,580
The person is clinically insane.
Is Herrmann, farm room boy.

856
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:21,090
Well, well, that too. And he is
still this is an interesting

857
00:51:21,090 --> 00:51:24,150
topic because he is still the
president of the of the EU,

858
00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:27,600
these are unelected positions.
And right now there is a battle

859
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:34,710
between what what's his name?
The banker guy, the German

860
00:51:34,740 --> 00:51:38,100
banker guy Juncker. Yeah.
Juncker so Juncker but then we

861
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:42,240
have angular Merkel saying she
would like Christine Lagarde

862
00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:45,060
right. She's got her name has
been brought up way too much.

863
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:45,360
And

864
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,050
Tony Blair is also starting to I
don't think you'll make a move

865
00:51:49,050 --> 00:51:52,560
without a woman but I think
look, guard oh man, you imagine

866
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,370
and they joked about it, that it
would have Hillary in America

867
00:51:56,490 --> 00:52:00,480
Lagarde in Europe, and it's not
hard to see how she would be

868
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,690
better than this guy. This is an
as you recall, we have a

869
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:07,920
nickname for him. Do you
remember him haiku Herman

870
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,570
because he likes writing and
reciting haikus. And he recently

871
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,000
received the Prime Minister of
Japan,

872
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:18,030
I will greet you with a
beautiful haiku written by

873
00:52:18,090 --> 00:52:23,640
Yamaguchi so do some 300 years
ago. I see the surprise in the

874
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,400
eyes of your a Master. Yeah, no
shit.

875
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,090
I see the surprises. Yeah, the
guy's gonna like what are you

876
00:52:30,090 --> 00:52:31,200
doing? What

877
00:52:31,290 --> 00:52:34,620
I will quote in Japanese. Now,

878
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,400
let me tell you something. I
learned in my short journey to

879
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,960
Tokyo. That if you're not
nailing the pronunciation, the

880
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,260
Japanese pretty much don't know
what the hell you're saying. If

881
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:48,390
you're not absolutely nailing
it, they'll look at you like

882
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:52,380
what? So it's not it's not like
you can speak with a British

883
00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:55,320
accent and American can kind of
figure it out or a Cockney

884
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,650
accent. It's it's a little
harder if you're not completely

885
00:52:58,650 --> 00:53:02,310
nailing it. I don't know if he
is, but I have my doubts.

886
00:53:03,210 --> 00:53:10,230
Mainly why Oba? Yama or toto de
su how to get through

887
00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:18,120
and he's gonna translate it
though.

888
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:23,880
Green leaves a nice little CaCO
in mountain and the seasons

889
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:25,260
first bonito

890
00:53:25,290 --> 00:53:27,630
Yes. I'm hard now.

891
00:53:29,580 --> 00:53:32,760
What's the point of that? The
seasons first bonita, which is

892
00:53:32,850 --> 00:53:34,680
Luna. What is the point?

893
00:53:34,890 --> 00:53:37,260
I don't know. It was written 300
years ago and apparently the

894
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:39,510
Japanese loved his rendition of
it.

895
00:53:43,050 --> 00:53:47,910
Here I'm sure they did. So well.
Chuck a chuckling chuckling

896
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:48,810
amongst themselves.

897
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,600
I think I should keep this as a
as an evergreen meanie

898
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:57,930
Wow. Oba Yama or toto de su, how
to get Sure.

899
00:54:03,210 --> 00:54:08,190
I think we should keep that. No,
no, no. Bucha just keep it

900
00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:11,130
someone's gonna want to hear
that as a donation. So but it's

901
00:54:11,130 --> 00:54:15,270
possible. Anyway, I would like
to thank you, John, for wrapping

902
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:19,020
all of that up for us. The
blatant attack on the First

903
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:21,330
Amendment of the United States
of America so I thank you for

904
00:54:21,330 --> 00:54:24,540
your courage and say in the
morning to you John C. Dvorak

905
00:54:24,930 --> 00:54:27,240
will in the morning to you Adam
curry

906
00:54:28,350 --> 00:54:29,940
as he looks for the spreadsheet,

907
00:54:30,299 --> 00:54:32,699
and in the morning to all the
ships at sea out there boots on

908
00:54:32,699 --> 00:54:37,109
the ground, feet in the air subs
in the water. And all the dames

909
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:39,239
out there and nights. Yes.

910
00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:42,510
And I'll say in the morning to
everyone in the chat room. Our

911
00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:45,840
human resources there no agenda
stream.com no agenda chat dotnet

912
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,300
and in the morning to all of our
artists. Thank you comments

913
00:54:48,330 --> 00:54:54,060
comic strip blogger. Before the
episode art four 622 There are a

914
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:56,760
number of good ones. Nick, the
rat had a pretty good one

915
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,190
Martin. Yeah, I think Nick the
rat was Nick the writer Martin

916
00:54:59,190 --> 00:55:02,880
JJ. So there's too much he, like
threw everything in the rat, I

917
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,490
think was Nick Yeah. And he kind
of threw everything in there.

918
00:55:05,610 --> 00:55:08,760
And I want to remind people that
we, I have to shrink the art

919
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,660
down by 50%. Just think about
and sometimes having a problem

920
00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:16,080
with the art of the album art in
general. Now, again, trying to

921
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,110
figure that out, it's not
showing up on all players and

922
00:55:19,110 --> 00:55:22,830
all pod catchers. But when it
does, it's going to be smaller.

923
00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:26,370
And also, it's smaller in the
show notes, we always have the

924
00:55:26,370 --> 00:55:30,360
big, large blown up version. But
bear that in mind, when you're

925
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,940
putting little letters at your
punch line, it's it's very hard

926
00:55:32,940 --> 00:55:36,630
to read, often in all forms. So
it really has to be pretty

927
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:43,140
visual in order to, to see what
what you got going on. And of

928
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:45,360
course, no agenda are
generated.com is where you can

929
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,660
find all of our submissions. We
use many of them for newsletters

930
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:51,420
and other purposes. And we
appreciate all the work of

931
00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:56,700
artists to you guys. I think
we've said many times that the

932
00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:03,060
show really does not do as well
with shitty art. Fact. No, it's

933
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:05,070
a fact. It's a fact, we've
learned the art is

934
00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:09,090
a big element. But this fact is
not showing up on the that's the

935
00:56:09,090 --> 00:56:11,370
problem. iTunes thing is weird.

936
00:56:11,790 --> 00:56:14,760
It's partially, it's a long
story.

937
00:56:14,790 --> 00:56:16,530
So the system is deteriorating.

938
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:21,330
I get I get grief from people
that say, Oh, I love this app,

939
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:24,180
it works perfectly. But none of
it doesn't really they added all

940
00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:28,110
these. Yeah, they changed the
way they do things. I used to

941
00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:31,890
take the album art out of the
mp3 file itself, and I have to

942
00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:36,750
put it into the channel itself.
But in order for the feed to be

943
00:56:36,750 --> 00:56:40,140
valid, it also has to be hosted
on the same URL. It's a lot of

944
00:56:40,140 --> 00:56:42,720
crap that comes into it. I want
to bore you. And I'm trying to

945
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,050
make it automated. So I don't
have to do this stuff by hand

946
00:56:46,050 --> 00:56:48,660
every single time because when I
do it by hand, when you're

947
00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:52,740
editing an XML file by hand I
get let me tell you after three

948
00:56:52,740 --> 00:56:56,700
hours of show, this is when
mistakes come into play. And

949
00:56:56,700 --> 00:57:00,180
really dumb shit happens and I
don't want that. So I'd rather

950
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:02,880
I'm still figuring it all out.
So we're working on working on

951
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,180
Yeah,

952
00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:06,240
it'll eventually get fixed. Of
course it'll get fixed. We have

953
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,540
a lot of executive producers and
Associate Executive producers to

954
00:57:09,540 --> 00:57:13,710
think well this is good news.
Yeah, is Phillip fault now

955
00:57:13,710 --> 00:57:23,460
how're PFOTNH au er, in Tampa,
Florida. 1450 bucks and 33

956
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:28,500
cents. Wow. Well, he wanted to
he's already uh, he wanted to be

957
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:31,530
an instant Knight right to
Baronet. So he's an instant

958
00:57:31,530 --> 00:57:33,720
Baronet because he's already
given us enough money to

959
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:34,890
he's an aqua net.

960
00:57:36,270 --> 00:57:38,700
He received promotion figures
time to donate. I would like to

961
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:41,130
finish off my knighthood and
toss in an instant night to

962
00:57:41,130 --> 00:57:44,490
Baronet for good measure. Wow,
we'd like to know what John

963
00:57:44,490 --> 00:57:48,240
thinks of Glenfiddich as an
everyday Scotch I prefer the 18

964
00:57:48,270 --> 00:57:51,030
Special thanks to the shill for
helping me square away the

965
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:55,230
accounting. Please give me a
huntsman a D Duchenne a jobs

966
00:57:55,230 --> 00:57:58,920
karma Keep up the good work he
ring size 11 I told him about

967
00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,100
the

968
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:03,030
agenda nation.com/rings Well,
thank you very much. Our instant

969
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:04,500
net Philip. This is fantastic.

970
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:10,740
Let me I'm sorry. Before you do
the Glenfiddich, which I like a

971
00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:14,400
lot myself. Good. Very good
scotch, the 18th I think they

972
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,440
actually I think the 12 is
acceptable. The 1818 year old

973
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,800
most Scotch brands are all good.
I've really

974
00:58:22,830 --> 00:58:25,590
run I got really hooked on that
Sanatory stuff. What

975
00:58:25,590 --> 00:58:28,800
is it the Suntory here? The blue
the stuff they're making Japan

976
00:58:29,310 --> 00:58:32,820
12 year centaury doesn't matter
what it is. I like all of it.

977
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:36,000
Yeah, well, the eight teens are
all across the board outstanding

978
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,100
and then finishes particularly
good. I was I

979
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:40,920
was really I was really blown
away by it when i Wow, I haven't

980
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,940
tasted this good. I'm, I'm just
a simple bourbon guy, Jim bean.

981
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,470
actually get it. Here's my you
know, I've decided there's a

982
00:58:49,470 --> 00:58:51,480
number of good burgers. We
should talk about this sometime.

983
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,290
But we'll say well, I don't want
to talk in too much detail. But

984
00:58:55,290 --> 00:59:01,680
I have to say that the 12 not
the 12 but the reserve, old crow

985
00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:06,300
which is in a leader and it's a
black label and it's cheap. It's

986
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:12,030
like 13 bucks a litre old crow
you say old crow reserve, which

987
00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:16,800
is not that easy to find. Turns
out but old crow reserve it

988
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:18,600
straight up shots.

989
00:59:19,110 --> 00:59:22,170
It's absolutely bourbon. Get
your hammered.

990
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,840
Well, if you took enough shots,
but one shots I gotta get

991
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,700
anybody does normal hammered.
But it is absolutely bourbon

992
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:33,240
esque. So a lot of people would
argue about old crow versus

993
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,930
other cheap cheap bourbons but
the 8686 proof which is

994
00:59:36,930 --> 00:59:39,960
shouldn't add proofs. bourbons
are considered a violation of

995
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,590
the bourbon law by bourbon
experts. Oh really? So you need

996
00:59:43,590 --> 00:59:47,190
to have at least 86 But Counsel
of bourbon and but there's old

997
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:49,860
crow Black Label reserved
straight shots.

998
00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:50,850
Mickey's writing it down. I

999
00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:53,340
know she's writing, sipping it's
not a sipping bourbon. It

1000
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:57,060
says shots shots and not on
rocks. Nothing straight down

1001
00:59:57,060 --> 00:59:57,810
straight shot

1002
00:59:57,810 --> 01:00:00,330
and you can maybe have a glass
of water or something after was

1003
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,740
because I'm really a

1004
01:00:01,740 --> 01:00:08,220
barbarian I like I do three
cubes some Jim Beam and then

1005
01:00:08,910 --> 01:00:13,650
sparkling water I'm sure that's
that's wrong in so many ways I'm

1006
01:00:13,650 --> 01:00:14,250
sure well

1007
01:00:14,250 --> 01:00:18,180
you know it's not wrong
necessarily but it's not getting

1008
01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:21,300
the full impact of the bourbon
right but I'm telling you shot

1009
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:22,860
get a shot glass shot glass shot

1010
01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:26,310
glass let me write this down
shot glass yes shot glass old

1011
01:00:26,310 --> 01:00:31,050
crow reserve reserve okay do I
do this in my Hema underwear or

1012
01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:32,400
can I wear anything I want

1013
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,200
anything you want just make sure
you're pointing South honey out

1014
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,250
yet you could change Ching

1015
01:00:40,830 --> 01:00:42,210
you've been deep do

1016
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:44,010
jobs, jobs,

1017
01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:50,220
jobs and jobs. Let's vote for
jobs. Karma

1018
01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:52,860
Oh, there you go. Another tip.

1019
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:57,210
Another tip from the best
podcasts are David if you have a

1020
01:00:57,210 --> 01:00:59,730
glass of water nearby, they
actually even enhances the

1021
01:00:59,730 --> 01:01:09,450
flavours. Sir David Foley 623 He
is so close again. 623 33 los

1022
01:01:10,290 --> 01:01:15,330
Los Gatos he has no note I
didn't use sent he sent a I

1023
01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:18,330
didn't find a note from my email
either. So he's getting to the

1024
01:01:18,330 --> 01:01:19,680
point where he just like

1025
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,340
I want to I want to be Grand
Duke is good. I don't care what

1026
01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:24,150
else happens?

1027
01:01:24,330 --> 01:01:31,620
And I would tell you, David
Brynjolfsson I'm thinking that's

1028
01:01:31,620 --> 01:01:36,240
how you pronounce his name.
Brand new suit on you. I'm just

1029
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,640
gonna go over the pseudo name we
get oh, I should mention that

1030
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:43,230
Eric was on the road when he did
this. And so you keep an eye out

1031
01:01:43,230 --> 01:01:48,210
for birthdays and other day
Gotcha. Spoon collection stone

1032
01:01:48,210 --> 01:01:51,270
nation for 333 homeless 300
shows late I've decided that

1033
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:53,580
would match my money spent on
marijuana or marijuana

1034
01:01:53,580 --> 01:01:55,710
accessories of the donation of
the same amount.

1035
01:01:55,740 --> 01:01:59,040
Was this donation or what was
not? It's not it has to be it

1036
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,290
has to be the for two or three
three, right?

1037
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,510
Yeah, the best podcast
universally recommended, every

1038
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:06,690
drug of choice is alcohol,
tobacco painkillers, how hell if

1039
01:02:06,690 --> 01:02:10,620
people ever learned to donate to
ad free educational software, I

1040
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:11,910
will send even more.

1041
01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:17,070
This is an interesting topic.
Not just educational software.

1042
01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:21,420
But you know, I use this lots of
open source software that in

1043
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:24,360
fact, the show runs on audio
rack suite. And I'm still I'm

1044
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:27,300
preparing my highlights a whole
multi camera production to show

1045
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:31,410
everyone how this is route
running. And these guys do open

1046
01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:34,230
source and I send them like I
don't know, 100 100 bucks two

1047
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:36,930
years ago and then didn't did
another release, I sent another

1048
01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:41,340
100 bucks. You people you need
to support your independent

1049
01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:45,630
software developers. This is in
unless you want to be stuck with

1050
01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:50,490
just fucking apps that steal
your stuff. Support your

1051
01:02:50,490 --> 01:02:53,370
independent software developers.
And if you're using a programme

1052
01:02:53,370 --> 01:02:55,920
and use it for a while and you
like it, and send them some

1053
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,350
money, think about the value
you're getting out of that

1054
01:02:58,350 --> 01:03:02,760
programme. You need to do this.
Do you remember when when there

1055
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,170
was Shareware and then

1056
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:08,160
yeah, now it's a scam. It's all
scam where here's what bothers

1057
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,880
me. So you go on to so you got
you're looking for some free

1058
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:14,820
editor or free backup programme
or something that you can maybe

1059
01:03:14,820 --> 01:03:18,150
support as opposed to these
horrible commercial products

1060
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:20,070
that you get with these hard
drives. When you're buying at

1061
01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:23,460
Costco these things don't even
work. Those Costco guys I'm

1062
01:03:23,460 --> 01:03:27,120
telling you, and then what's
that two drives to drive makers,

1063
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,600
they put this crappy backup
software all you can back up.

1064
01:03:30,930 --> 01:03:33,210
And it's like crappy backup
software. And you don't even get

1065
01:03:33,210 --> 01:03:35,730
the full version yet to pay
money for the it's just

1066
01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:40,230
terrible. And this stuff doesn't
work very well. But nowadays,

1067
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:43,110
because the people aren't
donating in effort, the

1068
01:03:43,110 --> 01:03:46,680
shareware business is off not
working well. Or there's or, or

1069
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,190
the scammers themselves have
ruined it. You go to a download

1070
01:03:50,190 --> 01:03:51,420
site and says, you know,

1071
01:03:52,530 --> 01:03:55,650
oh, no, I know. And this is
click the download button and

1072
01:03:55,650 --> 01:03:59,790
you get some dot exe file. Yeah,
just go. But now that'll be

1073
01:03:59,790 --> 01:04:00,600
fine. Get

1074
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,530
some other or are they have all
these different than, you know,

1075
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:08,160
try this? Try that try this. And
you know, and are you are you go

1076
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,980
to the one that really bugs me
and I've written about this is

1077
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:13,290
you want to get a copy of
OpenOffice for a machine you're

1078
01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:16,620
building, let's say. And so you
go in instead and you make some

1079
01:04:16,620 --> 01:04:18,780
mistake instead of going to
openoffice.org.

1080
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:22,200
Just I just need to set this up
for a second. So we have to

1081
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,090
understand that you are now at
this point. You've got your

1082
01:04:24,090 --> 01:04:27,690
green visor on a I'm building a
machine. You've already got your

1083
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:32,280
motherboard in now I want to I
gotta load some OpenOffice on

1084
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,660
this machine. I'm building that.

1085
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,420
Yeah, go and I'm going in there
and I find that I get to some

1086
01:04:39,420 --> 01:04:43,560
scam site says Download
OpenOffice here, you click on it

1087
01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:48,330
and it starts it says which and
during the download process and

1088
01:04:48,330 --> 01:04:52,590
when you actually execute the
file to instal it. It says would

1089
01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:55,350
you like this broad product
because this is good for it

1090
01:04:55,350 --> 01:04:57,960
right and we're already solves a
tool bar or

1091
01:04:58,950 --> 01:05:02,490
bar instals A that some other
crap and you get a bunch of

1092
01:05:02,490 --> 01:05:06,930
weird stuff contaminating your
machine and is now your browser

1093
01:05:06,930 --> 01:05:10,230
doesn't work right? And all of a
sudden, Twitter's got ads all

1094
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:14,220
over it. You know, it's
unbelievable, the crafted goat

1095
01:05:14,220 --> 01:05:17,760
that they try to scam you with
you ever see. Anyway, I want to

1096
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:22,080
mention something if somebody's
trying to trick you into using

1097
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,050
their product. These are not
honest people, I would never

1098
01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:25,920
give them money.

1099
01:05:27,090 --> 01:05:31,680
Right? This is not typically how
I come across software, I'm not

1100
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:37,440
searching that way. Or I'll look
at communities and look at

1101
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,740
things that are if you just if
you just go to Google, which I'm

1102
01:05:40,830 --> 01:05:44,850
no longer using, although I have
to say if you're searching for

1103
01:05:44,850 --> 01:05:47,310
news stories, you still have to
resort back to Google if you

1104
01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:52,560
want something Oh, current. But
yeah, I'll look around I'll talk

1105
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,320
to people and someone will give
me a pointer. You know, get hub

1106
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,100
and stuff like that. You got to
do a little work. Just didn't

1107
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,910
you're going to I love that
CNET. CNET has it download.com

1108
01:06:02,910 --> 01:06:05,790
Whatever. That's one of the
biggest scams.

1109
01:06:06,029 --> 01:06:09,419
Oh, it's horrible. download.com
used to be one of the best

1110
01:06:09,419 --> 01:06:12,209
places no longer it's not no
longer now they got a bunch of

1111
01:06:12,209 --> 01:06:15,269
Oh, try this. Try that or did
they have the big download

1112
01:06:15,269 --> 01:06:18,629
button which is not to download
what you're looking for? That's

1113
01:06:18,629 --> 01:06:19,619
what bothers me.

1114
01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:23,730
Yeah. No, I hear you. Okay, so
when you find something that is

1115
01:06:23,730 --> 01:06:27,540
not a scam, and it's useful, and
someone's making it, pay him and

1116
01:06:27,540 --> 01:06:29,760
don't go searching for codes.

1117
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:40,440
Anyway, spoon collection 333 33
H M fic and Montpellier, Vermont

1118
01:06:40,529 --> 01:06:44,489
as the head and MoPhO in charge.
He's back. Oh my gosh, this is

1119
01:06:44,489 --> 01:06:49,619
our Yeah, he kicked off our
coverage of Bo Diddley, which is

1120
01:06:49,619 --> 01:06:50,609
a new name we're using.

1121
01:06:51,569 --> 01:06:56,609
But he's, he's in following
Sunday show. It's been

1122
01:06:56,609 --> 01:06:59,849
interesting to watch the Beau
Bergdahl boded league scandal

1123
01:06:59,849 --> 01:07:02,369
blow up in the face of the
administration. I'm extremely

1124
01:07:02,369 --> 01:07:04,679
proud of the warfighter
community. It's interesting

1125
01:07:04,679 --> 01:07:08,309
that's the word. The warfighter
community for not letting the

1126
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:13,349
facade of bow the returning hero
stand. In fact of returning here

1127
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:15,419
I do have did you get the Susan
Rice clip?

1128
01:07:15,450 --> 01:07:20,550
I, I have an entire theory on
this.

1129
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,420
I do have one too. But at least
play the Susan Rice cup is short

1130
01:07:24,420 --> 01:07:28,020
and sweet. This is that idiot
twerp Susan Rice,

1131
01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:31,260
he served the United States with
honour and distinction and will

1132
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:34,710
have the opportunity eventually
to learn what has transpired and

1133
01:07:34,890 --> 01:07:38,100
in the past two years, but
what's most important now is his

1134
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:42,000
health and well being that he
had the opportunity to recover

1135
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,260
and peace and security and be
reunited with his family. Yes.

1136
01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:50,010
And all right, you get to do
that I get to an I did not make

1137
01:07:50,010 --> 01:07:53,760
this montage. I have the
original in the show notes. I

1138
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,040
forgot where I got it from. So
there's a little music track

1139
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,570
underneath it. Besides the
honour and distinction mean, we

1140
01:08:00,570 --> 01:08:02,940
had the sacred duty,

1141
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,810
Obama on a global stage this
morning defending a sacred

1142
01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:09,810
mission to return us prisoners
of war. We don't leave

1143
01:08:09,810 --> 01:08:12,660
people behind that we will do
it's a sacred duty to bring them

1144
01:08:12,660 --> 01:08:15,660
back, etc. And there's a sacred
bond with our men and women in

1145
01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:19,740
uniform. That is a sacred
obligation. The President pushed

1146
01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:22,800
back by saying he has a sacred
trust. I think he actually said

1147
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,500
it very well, that what I just
heard, which is a sacred

1148
01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:25,950
principle,

1149
01:08:25,979 --> 01:08:28,499
we still have a sacred
obligation to bring that person

1150
01:08:28,499 --> 01:08:29,789
back. sacred,

1151
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,850
sacred sacred, the sacred,
sacred, sacred sacred,

1152
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,640
we have a sacred obligation that
we have upheld since the

1153
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:36,870
founding of our Republic

1154
01:08:37,140 --> 01:08:38,250
sacred.

1155
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,080
I love the way they come up with
this stuff and then they slip it

1156
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,570
into the mainstream
consciousness sacred.

1157
01:08:45,630 --> 01:08:49,500
Let's look at the definition of
sacred shall we? Yes, please.

1158
01:08:49,530 --> 01:08:55,530
Right, sacred adjective worthy
of religious worship, very holy,

1159
01:08:55,620 --> 01:08:59,610
relating to religion, highly
valued and important, deserving

1160
01:08:59,610 --> 01:09:03,540
great respect. I'm sure they
mean that clearly, clearly

1161
01:09:03,540 --> 01:09:06,510
clear, dedicated or set apart
for the service or worship of a

1162
01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:13,980
deity. So the sacred thing, man,
that's that added control is I

1163
01:09:13,980 --> 01:09:16,620
have a I have a theory. Let's
talk about that afterwards.

1164
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,530
After we get done with this.
Move into that subject. Yeah.

1165
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,400
The response was immediate,
visceral and deafening, says the

1166
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:26,400
sergeant. While I'm happy
America's hearing the truth. I'm

1167
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,490
also deeply saddened as the
media coverage of Bo did just

1168
01:09:29,490 --> 01:09:32,400
what I predicted bumped the VA
scandal off the news radar, and

1169
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,560
some people have noticed this,
but it's not they haven't

1170
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,830
noticed it with much enthusiasm.
As usual. Thanks to the best

1171
01:09:37,830 --> 01:09:40,290
podcast in the universe. The no
agenda nation was ahead of the

1172
01:09:40,290 --> 01:09:43,470
game, and the lamestream media
was scrambling to catch up I'm

1173
01:09:43,470 --> 01:09:46,200
on the edge of my seat to hear
your analysis and deconstruction

1174
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,740
of this saga on Thursday show
that's today. I was so worked up

1175
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:53,010
when sending the note for Sunday
show. I forgot to ask for a D

1176
01:09:53,010 --> 01:09:54,570
douching. And shot of karma.

1177
01:09:55,650 --> 01:10:00,900
Yeah. And I'm I'm quite frankly
I'm dissing. made that we didn't

1178
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,180
think of it ourselves and we
were probably all worked up

1179
01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:06,150
about it. I didn't think he
needed a D douching. He does now

1180
01:10:06,150 --> 01:10:13,470
he comes as big as karma coming
your way and D deuced you've got

1181
01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:19,740
karma and thank you to the head
MoPhO in charge HMS hotel Mike

1182
01:10:19,770 --> 01:10:31,320
Fox Indriya Charlie Stan, he has
a wits. Stan Yes. Dan is G. Stan

1183
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,400
Youssef ski stadium Nevsky
Stennis esky

1184
01:10:35,849 --> 01:10:40,049
Thomas as it word Newmarket New
Hampshire 333 33 That was a

1185
01:10:40,049 --> 01:10:43,409
check sent by the bank so he
went to his bank and and

1186
01:10:43,470 --> 01:10:46,770
and so there was no charge no
one took any money in in the

1187
01:10:46,770 --> 01:10:47,070
middle

1188
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:50,010
we get the whole amount the bank
pays for the postage and the

1189
01:10:50,010 --> 01:10:53,100
next thing you know love the
cheque without a lot which we

1190
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,620
encourage people go talk to your
banker you can set these things

1191
01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:59,610
up. This may be a monthly for
all I know is new though. Salt

1192
01:10:59,610 --> 01:11:03,360
River studio 311 50 from Austin,
Texas are up the street and oh,

1193
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,460
I know who this is. I'm
continuing to work toward a

1194
01:11:05,460 --> 01:11:08,880
knighthood. I just made a
donation of 311 50. Adam, we're

1195
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,010
neighbours I'm living in the
heights now too.

1196
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,730
I know who this is watching your
every move. This is the Jamaican

1197
01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:15,450
and Austin.

1198
01:11:15,630 --> 01:11:18,030
Yeah, and for the next few days.
I'll be hanging out in

1199
01:11:18,030 --> 01:11:21,060
Amsterdam. Is there anything I
shouldn't miss any one I should

1200
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:21,390
meet?

1201
01:11:21,420 --> 01:11:27,750
Oh, send an email to
mickey@curry.com M IC K y. And

1202
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:33,180
she'll be happy to hook you up.
She She is the mayor of the

1203
01:11:33,180 --> 01:11:37,470
night. If you're in jail, that's
when you reach out to me I got

1204
01:11:37,470 --> 01:11:40,650
people for that. If you want to
get in trouble you'd call Mickey

1205
01:11:41,580 --> 01:11:42,870
to make an Amsterdam

1206
01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:46,980
Miss Mickey if you're nasty, sir
guy Boise Boise,

1207
01:11:47,130 --> 01:11:51,690
the lousy in Earth hold joven
Illinois 246

1208
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:57,330
It's in Israel. Illinois says it
says Israel behind that

1209
01:11:57,330 --> 01:11:59,700
yeah yeah I see that's pay
pounds in Israel. He's our

1210
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:01,950
Israeli sir.

1211
01:12:01,980 --> 01:12:04,470
Well, we have a number we have a
number you have sir Jono

1212
01:12:05,850 --> 01:12:08,370
another donation I make to the
best podcast in university

1213
01:12:08,370 --> 01:12:10,500
thanks for the great service
that provides me News Analysis

1214
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:12,630
entertainment media
assassination. Now a small

1215
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:15,900
request as a Windows phone user,
right a lousy podcast experience

1216
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,440
as I updated to Windows Phone
8.1 and improved greatly

1217
01:12:19,740 --> 01:12:23,040
including the album art finally
being shown. Go figure

1218
01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:26,850
Apple who who the first to
incorporate podcasting into

1219
01:12:26,850 --> 01:12:31,800
their echo schmear. They broke
it and now windows it works.

1220
01:12:31,950 --> 01:12:32,550
There you go.

1221
01:12:32,730 --> 01:12:38,370
Anybody with two weeks ago broke
Can you check my Baronet I will

1222
01:12:38,370 --> 01:12:41,730
never officially be given to me.
He needs to be called Baronet.

1223
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,790
I think he's a burnout is he
not?

1224
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,060
Yeah, he is but he wants to he
gets it. He never acknowledged

1225
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:48,180
it.

1226
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,200
I will acknowledge that in our
acknowledgement segment.

1227
01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:57,930
Okay, here we go in CoD negro.
Hey, he's back Wilkes Barre

1228
01:12:57,930 --> 01:13:01,650
Pennsylvania $200 A shot of
donor karma and the collective

1229
01:13:01,650 --> 01:13:04,260
well wishes of the no agenda
family or an unbearable

1230
01:13:04,260 --> 01:13:05,040
combination

1231
01:13:05,190 --> 01:13:10,140
on Buddha unbeatable not
unbearable unbeatable there's a

1232
01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:11,460
Freudian slip for you

1233
01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:17,670
good one is bad yeah I'm shot at
doing a coma collective well

1234
01:13:17,670 --> 01:13:18,900
wishes no Jennifer Marina

1235
01:13:19,740 --> 01:13:21,090
nice working with you John.

1236
01:13:21,599 --> 01:13:24,569
Yeah unbeatable combination back
to work soon for this slave

1237
01:13:24,569 --> 01:13:27,659
three months out and never
better boys. It's amazing what

1238
01:13:27,659 --> 01:13:30,719
those bipolar meds can do.
Needless to say, just take your

1239
01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:35,099
medicine slave Lord Devorah Oh,
you will obey Dr. Kiki Shut up

1240
01:13:35,099 --> 01:13:36,269
already. It's science.

1241
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,350
Okay. So but he also wants a
medicine is that what he wants?

1242
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:41,460
Well I hadn't

1243
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:57,030
already, science obey, you will
obey you will obey Scott karma.

1244
01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:02,880
Jackie Priester, down there in
Monterey, California. $200. And

1245
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:09,090
she sent in a check to the post
office box 339. And a note

1246
01:14:09,090 --> 01:14:11,940
another card. It's a nice little
card with a handwritten note.

1247
01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:17,190
I'll read it nice. It curses.
No. Oh, but very, very readable.

1248
01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:20,490
Like high end printing. Oh,
nice. You know what I mean?

1249
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:26,070
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm
donating this money in the name

1250
01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:31,800
of my mom, Diane Holst. I want
to wish her a very happy 60th

1251
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,320
birthday on June 6, we have to
put that on the list.

1252
01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:36,810
Oh, I think it is on the list.
Is it not? Let me check. I don't

1253
01:14:36,810 --> 01:14:42,540
think so. Hold on. Hold on. Just
give it to me again. So the cyan

1254
01:14:42,750 --> 01:14:45,330
Holst Diane Holst

1255
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:54,750
60 And it's from from Jackie
Priester. Okay. I want to

1256
01:14:54,750 --> 01:14:58,320
mention that I lost a birthday.
When I was in Detroit. We got a

1257
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,540
bunch of handwritten notes and
somebody scribbled don't want to

1258
01:15:00,570 --> 01:15:03,660
give me a birthday call it on
June 5. Oh, good, which was

1259
01:15:03,660 --> 01:15:06,660
weeks ago, of course, and they
they never I want to remind

1260
01:15:06,660 --> 01:15:11,610
people Yeah, at LIFO we, yeah,
everything's LIFO. But we spend

1261
01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:14,700
a lot of time and I don't want
to create anybody for thinking

1262
01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:18,870
that we could do this. But we
spend most of our time doing the

1263
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:21,360
show as opposed to bookkeeping
and we don't even do the

1264
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,590
bookkeeping Eric does it? Yeah.
So these things if you're gonna

1265
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:29,580
have a birthday, call it send us
a email and then with the with

1266
01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:33,990
the subject line birthday, yeah,
and you'll get your call up but

1267
01:15:34,020 --> 01:15:37,380
asking us to remember that on
October 15, you're gonna have a

1268
01:15:37,380 --> 01:15:37,890
birthday.

1269
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,000
That doesn't work. It doesn't

1270
01:15:40,170 --> 01:15:44,160
like it to work. So whoever the
Michigan Ian was that has the

1271
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,160
birthday we'll give them a call
on john@curry.com

1272
01:15:48,270 --> 01:15:51,900
She is making her voice be heard
and running for Scott County

1273
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:55,620
Board of Supervisors in Iowa.
Oh, the primary was June 3

1274
01:15:55,620 --> 01:15:57,750
Whether she got the votes or
not. I couldn't be more proud of

1275
01:15:57,750 --> 01:16:00,390
her and a team of friends and
family she has supporting her

1276
01:16:00,510 --> 01:16:04,740
many of whom are na fans. All
right, interesting. Listeners

1277
01:16:04,740 --> 01:16:08,820
check out Diane holst.com
amazing content. Although my mom

1278
01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:12,240
and I are separated by miles she
is my best friend and we talk on

1279
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,990
the phone frequently. Often
laughing or hashing about no

1280
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:17,340
agenda. Oh

1281
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,170
that's a conference that is a
podcast in itself I wouldn't

1282
01:16:22,170 --> 01:16:22,740
mind here I

1283
01:16:23,099 --> 01:16:27,359
would be how about some karma
for her in her three grand human

1284
01:16:27,359 --> 01:16:31,349
resources on the way a Hillary
what difference does it make for

1285
01:16:31,349 --> 01:16:36,059
dad and a John's mac and cheese
for me You guys are amazing.

1286
01:16:36,059 --> 01:16:37,169
Thank you for your courage.

1287
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,400
Wow there's a lot there. Okay,
so I will add in a little extra

1288
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,470
because she said it. So here we
go. What difference at this

1289
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:54,330
point does it make oh my god
that is on a mac and cheese mac

1290
01:16:54,330 --> 01:17:01,200
and cheese iron Rand you've got
karma. And I had the Hillary

1291
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:01,530
clip.

1292
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:03,750
Yes you did.

1293
01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:08,370
With that was that was a piece
of production. pre production.

1294
01:17:08,610 --> 01:17:09,630
That actually worked.

1295
01:17:10,290 --> 01:17:11,730
Oh you did this in advance.

1296
01:17:11,790 --> 01:17:15,360
You sent me a note you said we
need the Hillary will

1297
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,380
differences that make Yeah, and
I and I went out and got it and

1298
01:17:19,410 --> 01:17:22,200
then we have it because every
single time previously oh I

1299
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,300
don't have that one. People are
asking

1300
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:27,930
for it. So we have to. We have
to we will obey. Anyway that is

1301
01:17:27,930 --> 01:17:31,890
our contribution list. Our is
it?

1302
01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:35,130
Yes that Jackie is the last one
I have on the list.

1303
01:17:35,429 --> 01:17:38,489
And that is for show 623 One
remind people we do have a suit

1304
01:17:38,489 --> 01:17:43,799
show show 620 24 Coming up on
Sunday. And divorce.org/n A is

1305
01:17:43,799 --> 01:17:47,909
the place to go to help us also
Joan of arc.com/na no agenda

1306
01:17:47,909 --> 01:17:51,539
show.com has a donate button as
does no agenda nation.com

1307
01:17:51,810 --> 01:17:56,610
And I want to thank Chris who
created another forward guest

1308
01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:01,290
he's new top level domains are
coming in no agenda dot club.

1309
01:18:02,010 --> 01:18:05,190
Which I guess is something we
could use. Hint Hint wink wink

1310
01:18:05,190 --> 01:18:08,970
nudge nudge in the future, John.
You never know if the club gets

1311
01:18:08,970 --> 01:18:09,630
resurrected.

1312
01:18:10,230 --> 01:18:12,960
Oh, yeah. Oh, you mean the club?

1313
01:18:12,990 --> 01:18:16,200
Yes. All right, everybody. Thank
you very much to our executive

1314
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,690
and Associate Executive
Producers these are actual

1315
01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:21,780
credits. You can use them
anywhere credits are valid a lot

1316
01:18:21,780 --> 01:18:24,540
of people seem to put them on
their LinkedIn page that gets

1317
01:18:24,540 --> 01:18:28,650
you a lot of a lot of views
people do like them him What is

1318
01:18:28,650 --> 01:18:33,210
this? And apparently sometimes
it actually helps as a karma for

1319
01:18:33,210 --> 01:18:37,590
getting jobs. So there you have
that and as John said, for the

1320
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:43,920
Sunday show 624 Go to
devora.org/and A and we always

1321
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,170
appreciate you going out there
and doing some very important

1322
01:18:46,170 --> 01:18:47,700
work and propagating our
formula.

1323
01:18:48,090 --> 01:18:52,800
Our formula is this we go out we
hit people in the mouth

1324
01:19:06,540 --> 01:19:12,240
right, okay, so here we go.
Because I have a thought on this

1325
01:19:12,270 --> 01:19:18,060
on this fiasco. And but you're
you have the clips. I have very

1326
01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:24,150
few I do have one funny clip.
You know, I was listening to

1327
01:19:25,740 --> 01:19:29,220
that. What's the name of that
lesbian on it Chris Hayes.

1328
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:33,060
Yes, Chris. The Lesbian Chris
Hayes. Yeah.

1329
01:19:33,630 --> 01:19:36,300
Chase actually brought something
up. That was interesting. He did

1330
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:38,160
have an old clip from Fox.
here's the

1331
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,710
here's here's what's gonna
happen. Someone will tweet that

1332
01:19:40,710 --> 01:19:44,430
people are now tweeting quotes
from the no agenda show. Have

1333
01:19:44,430 --> 01:19:47,490
you noticed this? Yeah, that'd
be like, what's the name of

1334
01:19:47,490 --> 01:19:51,600
that? Let's be on MSNBC. Chris
Hayes. No, no, no agenda show

1335
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,220
Dvorak? You watch?

1336
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:56,580
Yeah, it was stolen joke. I
mean, it's funny.

1337
01:19:56,580 --> 01:19:57,090
I like it.

1338
01:19:57,660 --> 01:20:02,160
But Chris Hayes He's I realised
that I never thought but is the

1339
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:06,870
name of his show is about what
it is all in

1340
01:20:06,900 --> 01:20:08,910
oh yeah no no so he's

1341
01:20:08,910 --> 01:20:11,880
all in with the Obama
administration so he brought on

1342
01:20:12,810 --> 01:20:14,460
and this should this is the clip
Chris Hayes

1343
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,220
we should probably play it it
seems seems like a long clip you

1344
01:20:17,220 --> 01:20:17,640
got here

1345
01:20:17,670 --> 01:20:20,610
it's it's a little long because
what it is is that this is the

1346
01:20:20,610 --> 01:20:26,580
apologist clip and our agent or
Sergeant Staff Sergeant will be

1347
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:30,420
amused by this this is what they
did to assuage the whole thing

1348
01:20:30,420 --> 01:20:36,180
and this is pre SEC saints was
sacked sacred is the priests pre

1349
01:20:36,180 --> 01:20:39,360
the sacred oh really right away
this right after all began this

1350
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,510
was the first putting out the
fire a clip I could

1351
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,610
if you need to rely on the vast
audience of MSNBC to put out the

1352
01:20:47,610 --> 01:20:50,130
fire. But But no,

1353
01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:53,280
but what they did what I what I
think why this clip is good is

1354
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:58,200
besides the intro, which shows a
clip from 2009 that where

1355
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,140
somebody came out and bitched
about this guy being a deserter

1356
01:21:01,140 --> 01:21:04,740
back then, and that by the way,
what she doesn't mention is

1357
01:21:04,740 --> 01:21:07,290
that's the point where the non
disclosures were were

1358
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,180
distributed to tell people to
stop

1359
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:10,410
Shut up. Yeah, exactly.

1360
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,680
But then Chris Hayes is all in
all in with whatever. So he

1361
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:22,830
brings in the Pentagon spokes
whole guy, why not? Who and and

1362
01:21:22,830 --> 01:21:26,730
he never asked him he never does
a follow up question. He just he

1363
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,920
obviously had a script in front
of them and you can listen to

1364
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,960
the script. Okay, if you get
sick of this, you can kill it.

1365
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,160
But it's a script is a very
scripted interview all saying

1366
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,430
everything's fine. Don't worry
about don't look over there. And

1367
01:21:38,430 --> 01:21:39,120
here we go.

1368
01:21:39,390 --> 01:21:42,960
This isn't new on Fox News in
2009. Not long after Bergdahl

1369
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,320
was captured. Retired Lieutenant
Colonel Ralph Peters, called the

1370
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,650
soldier a liar and suggested the
Taliban would be doing us a

1371
01:21:49,650 --> 01:21:51,180
favour, like killing him.

1372
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:57,180
If he walked away from his post
and his buddies in wartime, I

1373
01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:59,820
don't care how hard it sounds.
As far as I'm concerned, the

1374
01:21:59,820 --> 01:22:03,780
tally bond can save us a lot of
legal hassles and legal legal

1375
01:22:03,780 --> 01:22:04,350
bills.

1376
01:22:06,420 --> 01:22:09,870
Joining me now Pentagon press
secretary Rear Admiral John

1377
01:22:09,870 --> 01:22:14,400
Kirby. And Admiral Let me begin
by asking why now I know

1378
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,010
negotiations had been ongoing
for quite some time on this

1379
01:22:17,010 --> 01:22:19,770
matter. What was the
breakthrough that allowed Bowe

1380
01:22:19,770 --> 01:22:26,010
Bergdahl to come home? Well,
there was, uh, I think the way I

1381
01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:29,670
put this, Chris was, there was a
lot of effort, a lot of effort

1382
01:22:29,670 --> 01:22:34,860
over years, and certainly recent
months and weeks. But the real

1383
01:22:34,860 --> 01:22:39,900
impetus to move as quickly as we
did here was concerns that we

1384
01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:45,840
had over Sergeant Berg dolls,
health and his safety. So we

1385
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,260
knew that there was a brief
window coming. And we took

1386
01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:53,070
advantage of this as quickly as
possible. But largely, the speed

1387
01:22:53,070 --> 01:22:57,060
and the urgency with which we
moved was a lot driven by by his

1388
01:22:57,060 --> 01:22:59,700
well being. Can you be any more
specific about his health? I

1389
01:22:59,700 --> 01:23:00,000
know it's

1390
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,520
so you're right. This was all
about his health, his health,

1391
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,270
his health, his health. But it
morphed? And I'm sick of this.

1392
01:23:06,270 --> 01:23:07,290
Can I move on?

1393
01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:10,230
Yeah, let me just summarise a
couple other things he brought

1394
01:23:10,230 --> 01:23:15,360
up, he asked him about the
desertion claim, you should

1395
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:16,200
probably kill it after

1396
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,340
the desert shows, listen, I

1397
01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:20,040
mentioned numerous times any
sense of of what kind of health

1398
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,100
challenges you are concerned
about? Yeah, I'm really not able

1399
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:27,630
to, because he is an active duty
living soldier. He has privacy

1400
01:23:28,380 --> 01:23:30,870
rights that we just can't
violate. But I would tell you

1401
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:34,620
that that through a series of
indications, we became

1402
01:23:34,620 --> 01:23:38,280
increasingly concerned about his
well being and of course, his

1403
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,730
safety in general. Not that, you
know, not that we weren't always

1404
01:23:41,730 --> 01:23:44,010
concerned about his safety and
captivity, but in particular,

1405
01:23:44,010 --> 01:23:48,570
as, as things got to just recent
weeks here, without going into

1406
01:23:48,570 --> 01:23:51,420
much more detail there. In terms
of the indications and

1407
01:23:51,420 --> 01:23:53,970
intelligence, I can tell you
that we have very good reason to

1408
01:23:53,970 --> 01:23:57,780
be so concerned. And that really
is what drove the speed with

1409
01:23:57,780 --> 01:24:01,950
which we moved. There's been two
lines of criticism in reaction

1410
01:24:01,950 --> 01:24:05,430
to the announcement. The first
has to do with the negotiation

1411
01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:08,220
itself. There are politicians
and other saying that the

1412
01:24:08,220 --> 01:24:11,100
administration has negotiated
with terrorists, it has violated

1413
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:13,830
some important America. Wait,
stop,

1414
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:18,240
stop. This is actually worth
listening to. Because it seems

1415
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,600
to me that if if you follow the
logic, you have to listen to

1416
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,360
this clip, because I didn't
think this was going to be their

1417
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,770
excuse. But oh, anyway, just
keep playing it. I mean, this is

1418
01:24:28,770 --> 01:24:31,440
the most stupid thing I've ever
heard. And Chris Hayes says

1419
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:32,370
nothing about it,

1420
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:37,380
your response to that? There was
no negotiations with terrorists

1421
01:24:37,650 --> 01:24:39,300
in this in this case,

1422
01:24:40,170 --> 01:24:42,540
because they talked to the
Qatari is right, our friends, it

1423
01:24:42,540 --> 01:24:43,050
was all

1424
01:24:43,410 --> 01:24:46,380
all the discussions were done.
Logic is this.

1425
01:24:46,740 --> 01:24:49,440
And I got I got a lot of
pushback from many people on

1426
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:51,450
this. We didn't Yeah,

1427
01:24:51,690 --> 01:24:55,200
we didn't do we didn't negotiate
with tariffs. Yeah, no, no, no.

1428
01:24:55,860 --> 01:24:58,410
No. So in other words, we had
zero to do with this whole

1429
01:24:58,410 --> 01:24:59,190
thing. We're in

1430
01:24:59,190 --> 01:25:03,480
other words, if I am working on
a divorce settlement and I'm

1431
01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:06,450
working through my lawyer. I'm
not negotiating with a

1432
01:25:06,450 --> 01:25:09,120
terrorist. Of course you are
your ex wife is by definition a

1433
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:09,840
terrorist.

1434
01:25:10,889 --> 01:25:13,259
The whole thing is ludicrous.
Just like I'm using the phone, I

1435
01:25:13,259 --> 01:25:14,729
didn't talk to these people. I

1436
01:25:14,730 --> 01:25:17,430
know. I didn't actually see that
man. No, I didn't know

1437
01:25:17,459 --> 01:25:20,309
through. The Government of Qatar
will greatly appreciative for

1438
01:25:20,309 --> 01:25:22,799
that. But there was no direct
talks with the Taliban, no

1439
01:25:22,799 --> 01:25:26,309
direct talks with Afghani
network. This was a, this was an

1440
01:25:26,309 --> 01:25:27,479
arrangement to transfer

1441
01:25:27,929 --> 01:25:30,389
that alright, I'm sick of this.
I'm sick of this. All right. And

1442
01:25:30,389 --> 01:25:35,159
let me let me move on. Because
this this, this went to the

1443
01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:38,549
sacred duty. That was the script
that was I don't know how this

1444
01:25:39,059 --> 01:25:42,719
where that meme comes from or
how that just goes. Everyone was

1445
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:46,019
using it sacred duty sacred and
missions. It's all sacred,

1446
01:25:46,019 --> 01:25:52,529
sacred. Okay, sacred. Now, we
know that, according to the news

1447
01:25:52,529 --> 01:25:56,399
reports, and this could all be
one elaborate. Do I mean this,

1448
01:25:56,399 --> 01:25:59,969
maybe there's something still to
come and we just haven't seen it

1449
01:25:59,969 --> 01:26:04,289
yet. But it appeared that the
administration was caught off

1450
01:26:04,289 --> 01:26:08,549
guard. And here's Chuck Todd, on
the Today show.

1451
01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:11,670
I really think this was just
going to be a celebratory

1452
01:26:11,670 --> 01:26:16,230
moment, the release of Sergeant
Bergdahl. Did they not see any

1453
01:26:16,230 --> 01:26:19,920
of this backlash coming? Were
they caught flat footed, they

1454
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,770
were caught flat footed, every
eight I've talked to said they

1455
01:26:22,770 --> 01:26:26,190
expected there to be controversy
involving the decision to

1456
01:26:26,190 --> 01:26:30,090
release five members of the
Taliban from Gitmo and the fact

1457
01:26:30,090 --> 01:26:33,210
that this would then escalate
that debate, which of course has

1458
01:26:33,210 --> 01:26:35,910
been simmering for a good five
years, which is what to do with

1459
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:38,250
those detainees. How do you
release them? Where do you

1460
01:26:38,250 --> 01:26:41,970
really say they did not expect
this backlash on Bergdahl

1461
01:26:41,970 --> 01:26:45,270
himself? I've had a few aides
describe it to me. We didn't

1462
01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:47,970
know that they were going to
Swift Boat Bergdahl. And Matt,

1463
01:26:47,970 --> 01:26:50,730
of course, that's a reference to
that political fight back in

1464
01:26:50,730 --> 01:26:53,850
2004. Over John Kerry's
military, right. So

1465
01:26:53,850 --> 01:26:56,670
whether this is true or not,
that is the that is the meme

1466
01:26:56,670 --> 01:27:00,780
that is being put out there. The
White House was not expecting

1467
01:27:00,780 --> 01:27:04,650
this backlash now. Susan Rice,
the Torp, as you call her, she

1468
01:27:04,650 --> 01:27:08,640
went out she went a number of
shows she was on Candy Crowley

1469
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,730
show but I'd like candy. I think
she's she she's somehow she gets

1470
01:27:11,730 --> 01:27:13,890
to ask the real questions. And
I've noticed that CNN is

1471
01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:16,950
changing somewhat. And here's
where she comes with the meme

1472
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:20,370
that I think plays into my my
theory, which I'll get to

1473
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,460
when you were having these
discussions amongst yourselves.

1474
01:27:23,970 --> 01:27:30,510
Did you worry that this deal
would encourage other terrorist

1475
01:27:30,510 --> 01:27:34,470
organisations like the conning
network, to seize Americans, be

1476
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:39,270
they military or civilian
Americans in order to get more

1477
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:41,100
folks released from Guantanamo
Bay?

1478
01:27:41,130 --> 01:27:45,180
Now, Kenny, the fact of the
matter is Sergeant Bergdahl is

1479
01:27:45,180 --> 01:27:48,900
the last of the Americans that
had been held in Afghanistan.

1480
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,680
And we felt that as the wars
winding down, it was our sacred

1481
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,860
obligation, given the
opportunity to get him back that

1482
01:27:55,860 --> 01:28:00,420
we do so. And we did so in a way
that has brought him back safely

1483
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:05,070
into American hands. We did so
in a way that resulted in the

1484
01:28:05,070 --> 01:28:06,840
Taliban prisoners be

1485
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:11,340
okay, so what you heard there is
the war is winding down. He's

1486
01:28:11,340 --> 01:28:16,200
our last man out there. And this
I think, is what the idea was,

1487
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:21,150
here's rice on Stephanopoulos
and ABC, we already heard her

1488
01:28:21,150 --> 01:28:23,550
the do the honour and
distinction clip which you had.

1489
01:28:23,730 --> 01:28:26,850
Here she is, again about I
think, prisoner of Georgia. This

1490
01:28:26,850 --> 01:28:31,200
is this is a very special
situation. Sergeant Bergdahl

1491
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,680
wasn't simply a hostage. He was
an American prisoner of war,

1492
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:37,230
captured on the battlefield. Oh,

1493
01:28:37,230 --> 01:28:40,710
this is a she's really trying to
propagate something which we now

1494
01:28:40,710 --> 01:28:43,560
know is factually and there may
even be some video evidence not

1495
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:43,950
true.

1496
01:28:44,010 --> 01:28:48,960
We have a sacred obligation that
we have our republic to do our

1497
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,790
utmost to bring back our men and
women

1498
01:28:51,780 --> 01:28:53,580
since the founding of the
Republic, women

1499
01:28:54,180 --> 01:28:57,810
who are taken in battle, and we
did that in this instance, if

1500
01:28:57,810 --> 01:29:01,440
for some reason, we took a
position now in the 21st century

1501
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:05,280
when some of our adversaries may
not be traditional state actors,

1502
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:09,060
that we would not do our utmost
to bring our prisoners of war

1503
01:29:09,060 --> 01:29:12,300
home that would break faith with
the American people and with the

1504
01:29:12,300 --> 01:29:14,400
men and women who serve in
uniform so

1505
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:19,170
here we have the remember the
President went to Afghanistan on

1506
01:29:19,170 --> 01:29:23,250
Memorial Day and he stood there
with the troops and everything

1507
01:29:23,250 --> 01:29:26,430
and we're winding down the war
and he comes back and then you

1508
01:29:26,430 --> 01:29:30,990
know all we got our last man the
lot the wars winding down last

1509
01:29:30,990 --> 01:29:32,550
man. We're bringing him home.
Let's

1510
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:34,290
begin with how Beau Bergdahl is
doing right

1511
01:29:34,290 --> 01:29:36,750
now. We know he's landed in
Germany. What more can you tell

1512
01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:38,430
us about how he's doing his
health?

1513
01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:42,030
Well, George, first of all, this
is a joyous day, the joyous day,

1514
01:29:42,060 --> 01:29:44,460
he is now safely in American
hands.

1515
01:29:44,490 --> 01:29:49,200
So joyous day, safely home now.
Let's get it straight from the

1516
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,930
horse's mouth. The guy who
resigned over this but he still

1517
01:29:51,930 --> 01:29:55,860
has to do a couple of a couple
of the quick hits. Here's

1518
01:29:55,860 --> 01:29:59,970
Anderson Cooper, with Jay
Carney, The Last Man Standing

1519
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,030
theory you do not have the
luxury in a situation like this,

1520
01:30:03,150 --> 01:30:05,610
of opening a window and hoping
that in 30 days, it's still

1521
01:30:05,610 --> 01:30:08,670
going to be open. This was
touching go and has been

1522
01:30:08,670 --> 01:30:12,510
touching go for years. And when
you have the opportunity to

1523
01:30:12,510 --> 01:30:18,930
execute this recovery of the
last uniformed military last man

1524
01:30:18,930 --> 01:30:22,500
standing. Now I was already
handed this this was their This

1525
01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:25,620
was their idea. This was their
plan. But then when you get you

1526
01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:28,680
get Chip Gregory coming on and
defending it as the last man

1527
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,320
standing, then you know, that's
the plan question that

1528
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,720
I have that I think is a
question for this debate for

1529
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,620
today and moving forward is
whether the circumstances

1530
01:30:37,620 --> 01:30:41,640
matter, or whether the United
States or any commander in chief

1531
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,240
will always be committed to
rescuing a soldier from the

1532
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,690
battlefield, no matter the
circumstances. So the Chairman

1533
01:30:48,690 --> 01:30:51,660
of the Joint Chiefs, Martin
Dempsey said, Look, this is an

1534
01:30:51,660 --> 01:30:55,170
American citizen, who is a
soldier who's presumed innocent

1535
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,650
in this circumstance, he was
held prisoner. This war is

1536
01:30:58,650 --> 01:31:00,960
coming to an end. That's not
what he said. But I'm saying

1537
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,350
this is thanks, Jews, the wars
clash, and then there was an

1538
01:31:04,350 --> 01:31:08,670
opportunity here to get that
soldier off the battlefield. So

1539
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,440
so we could have the big
homecoming parade, which is just

1540
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:18,060
now today's it's been cancelled.
Here's what I think, John, and

1541
01:31:18,060 --> 01:31:20,790
I'm going to presume that these
guys in the White House aren't

1542
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:24,540
all that smart. There's hubris,
they think all that that they're

1543
01:31:24,570 --> 01:31:28,140
that in a bag of chips. I
believe that the in the military

1544
01:31:28,140 --> 01:31:31,920
is no fan of the Obama
administration. We know this.

1545
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:36,270
There's a lot of pruning and
people have been getting kicked

1546
01:31:36,270 --> 01:31:42,300
out and all kinds of crap is
going on. I believe that someone

1547
01:31:42,300 --> 01:31:47,160
laid out the strategy. Hey, I
got a great idea. Valerie, you

1548
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,830
probably did. Valerie Jarrett,
this this has her achiness all

1549
01:31:50,250 --> 01:31:53,520
it does is you know, it's like
hey, Valerie, what he'll go to

1550
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,280
Afghanistan on, you know,
upstanding with the troops

1551
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:00,270
memorial day he'll come home.
And then we bring home the last

1552
01:32:00,270 --> 01:32:04,800
uniform soldier. Everyone will
love him Mission Accomplished

1553
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,700
parade beautiful. And they fell
for it. I think this was a

1554
01:32:08,700 --> 01:32:13,950
setup. I think someone said set
the Obama administration up and

1555
01:32:13,950 --> 01:32:18,870
the media, that's all the media
is talking about. So this feels

1556
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:24,270
like a setup, hubris, idiocy.
And I think people just

1557
01:32:24,270 --> 01:32:24,960
chuckling but

1558
01:32:27,270 --> 01:32:30,090
I think there's a lot I think
that element exists. But I

1559
01:32:30,090 --> 01:32:33,750
haven't I have another thesis
that I'd like to present. Sure.

1560
01:32:34,380 --> 01:32:38,130
And I believe that it fits in
with your thesis if we maybe

1561
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:43,080
take some assumption that the
CIA has a hand in this by maybe

1562
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,000
suggesting the idea to Valerie

1563
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:49,200
Oh, and by the way, didn't the
CIA guy get outed when the

1564
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:53,010
President went to Afghanistan?
This is all before Bo Diddley.

1565
01:32:53,370 --> 01:32:56,460
Yeah, are you going to out our
guy? Oh, you know, you should go

1566
01:32:56,460 --> 01:32:57,390
rescue this guy.

1567
01:32:57,510 --> 01:33:03,300
But the CIA is practical too.
They just don't do gags true. So

1568
01:33:03,330 --> 01:33:06,390
my thinking is that if you're
watching, there's a good

1569
01:33:06,540 --> 01:33:10,020
dramatic you see it in movies
and you see in TV shows the idea

1570
01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:14,370
where that murderer goes out and
kills 10 people to cover up the

1571
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:20,040
hit I hit right. In other words,
one person was actually targeted

1572
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:21,660
and a day off you skated by

1573
01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:25,200
Yes, we we've discussed this on
the show previously as a theory

1574
01:33:25,710 --> 01:33:30,570
and this I'm thinking because
the CIA knows is going to be

1575
01:33:30,750 --> 01:33:33,240
because Afghanistan thing is
winding down this is not a

1576
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,820
untrue and they're going to try
to get everybody out of there

1577
01:33:35,820 --> 01:33:39,390
within the next couple of years.
Somebody's got to run the drugs

1578
01:33:39,390 --> 01:33:43,080
for the CIA because this is like
a big money making operation in

1579
01:33:43,110 --> 01:33:45,390
Afghanistan. That's what the pop
that's what a lot of soldiers

1580
01:33:45,390 --> 01:33:50,700
regarding poppies, right. Yeah.
Well, one guy have these five

1581
01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:53,610
and there were 15 Initially, and
they picked it down to five.

1582
01:33:53,610 --> 01:33:58,170
Yeah, carefully chose five one
guy was was the poppy guy was

1583
01:33:58,170 --> 01:33:59,550
the Big Papi guy.

1584
01:34:00,090 --> 01:34:03,750
Oh, wow, great. Fine. Only in
the news for

1585
01:34:03,750 --> 01:34:04,980
the first day.

1586
01:34:05,070 --> 01:34:09,750
Which guy was it? It's this guy.
It's are you holding up a

1587
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:11,790
picture to the microphone? No,
I'm

1588
01:34:11,790 --> 01:34:17,820
gonna try to read his name. Tali
Bong, Poppy. Hi. It's karula

1589
01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:24,000
sade Wally Kerak. Wha, the one
that's got saved and it sad.

1590
01:34:24,030 --> 01:34:26,820
That guy that funny looking guy,
bald guy with the big beard is

1591
01:34:26,850 --> 01:34:30,870
the mean is looking of the three
of the five I mean, that

1592
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:37,470
Taliban say. Okay, I just want
to see if I can find him mostly

1593
01:34:37,470 --> 01:34:38,190
what it looks like.

1594
01:34:39,690 --> 01:34:43,350
And a secret defence department
memo that was published by the

1595
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:48,780
telegraph, because you can still
find this reference. detainee

1596
01:34:48,780 --> 01:34:51,420
was identified as a narcotics
trafficker and probably used his

1597
01:34:51,420 --> 01:34:53,880
position and influence to become
one of the major opium drug

1598
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,090
lords in western Afghanistan de
Tini probably use profits from

1599
01:34:57,090 --> 01:34:58,290
drugs to promote Taliban. So

1600
01:34:58,290 --> 01:34:59,970
that's our guy. Yeah.

1601
01:35:00,359 --> 01:35:03,719
This is the guy who was the
chairman of Herat and a military

1602
01:35:03,719 --> 01:35:07,619
commander, but he was also the
big drug guy. I believe that

1603
01:35:07,619 --> 01:35:10,499
they did a deal with him very
good when they're, he's gonna

1604
01:35:10,499 --> 01:35:14,249
take over the drug business and
they're gonna stay he'll stay in

1605
01:35:14,249 --> 01:35:17,639
Qatar he doesn't care. And then
he'll go right in and he right

1606
01:35:17,639 --> 01:35:20,219
now I'm sure his people are
setting up shop so that you

1607
01:35:20,219 --> 01:35:24,329
know, they can run the place and
that he's going back the other

1608
01:35:24,329 --> 01:35:27,749
guys are all noncom they're on
inconsequential all four of

1609
01:35:27,749 --> 01:35:30,059
them. And this guy, here's a big
deal.

1610
01:35:30,090 --> 01:35:33,060
This is a great find. I
congratulate you. Thank you.

1611
01:35:34,350 --> 01:35:34,980
Hey, baby.

1612
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:39,540
So what we'll probably see in
the next

1613
01:35:39,930 --> 01:35:43,950
John was John Uh huh. Just one
second. Just enjoy that for a

1614
01:35:43,950 --> 01:35:50,880
moment. That's that is fucking
great. I mean, I completely

1615
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:54,780
bogged on looking at these guys.
Good work. All right, so that

1616
01:35:54,780 --> 01:35:58,890
makes total sense. Yeah. Now I
had another just a brain fart

1617
01:35:58,890 --> 01:36:01,890
about this. Do you think that
maybe this was ongoing that

1618
01:36:01,890 --> 01:36:04,770
maybe they would have used a
couple of these Talabani guys to

1619
01:36:04,770 --> 01:36:10,320
trade for Ambassador the the
Ambassador Chris Stevens.

1620
01:36:10,740 --> 01:36:15,300
Maybe it's always a possibility
now could have been right? It

1621
01:36:15,300 --> 01:36:20,010
wouldn't have surprised me but I
think the botch was I think that

1622
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,070
it was a double screw job me
because the CIA gets their guy

1623
01:36:23,070 --> 01:36:26,580
in there to run the drug
business when they ousted the

1624
01:36:26,580 --> 01:36:29,160
people in or to watch it over.
Watch over but then they also

1625
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:30,420
get to embarrass Obama.

1626
01:36:31,259 --> 01:36:35,789
What is this a great day or
what? It's a really it's a drugs

1627
01:36:35,789 --> 01:36:36,479
key common

1628
01:36:36,629 --> 01:36:39,479
B soldier in the country is bent
out of shape.

1629
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:45,960
No kidding man of now the What
is this? H H M fic sent this to

1630
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,940
me. This is me read this article
to you. And Obama administration

1631
01:36:50,940 --> 01:36:53,700
official on Wednesday,
suggestive members of Army

1632
01:36:53,700 --> 01:36:56,460
Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl Splatoon
who have criticised him for

1633
01:36:56,460 --> 01:36:59,220
allegedly deserting his unit
might be psychopaths. There you

1634
01:36:59,220 --> 01:37:01,500
go. So Brandon Friedman.

1635
01:37:01,769 --> 01:37:05,849
Oh, this was the I heard this.
Yeah, yeah. Deputy Assistant

1636
01:37:06,180 --> 01:37:08,910
Secretary of Public Affairs at
the Department of Housing and

1637
01:37:08,910 --> 01:37:13,830
Urban Development. Tweets, I
believe

1638
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:15,990
he got to do with anything quite
sure.

1639
01:37:17,070 --> 01:37:21,780
Housing and Urban Development.
He says, What if his platoon was

1640
01:37:21,780 --> 01:37:26,850
long on psychopaths on short on
leadership? Me this this guy.

1641
01:37:27,389 --> 01:37:31,139
He has a platoon leader on I had
to listen to this guy. He was on

1642
01:37:31,139 --> 01:37:35,429
Hannity's radio show no. And he
went on and on about how this

1643
01:37:35,489 --> 01:37:38,489
everybody knows this is going to
end the guy seemed like anything

1644
01:37:38,489 --> 01:37:42,509
but a psychopath. Of course,
dad, Bo Diddley may have been

1645
01:37:42,509 --> 01:37:46,109
the psychopath at least I
thought I watched O'Reilly grill

1646
01:37:46,109 --> 01:37:50,219
some guy. And all the people
that asked an obvious question.

1647
01:37:50,249 --> 01:37:53,729
I just thought this was a jam
because well, it's always

1648
01:37:53,729 --> 01:37:57,389
possible. This is an O'Reilly
Bill O'Reilly asking about this

1649
01:37:57,389 --> 01:37:58,319
as if you're

1650
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,790
a US soldier, and then you you
slip under the wire with water,

1651
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:06,210
food and a knife not even a gun
and a compass. You gotta be

1652
01:38:06,210 --> 01:38:09,570
insane, right? Maybe this guy's
crazy.

1653
01:38:11,610 --> 01:38:13,950
It's very possible. There's a
lot of problems with Sergeant

1654
01:38:13,950 --> 01:38:16,800
Bergdahl. Yeah, that's

1655
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,920
very possible every possible.
But that has

1656
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:23,520
given Ronnie credit for asking
that question. Yeah, nuts.

1657
01:38:23,580 --> 01:38:26,430
I am from what I understand.
There's video of him walking off

1658
01:38:26,430 --> 01:38:28,290
the base. They didn't have can
you know, they have security

1659
01:38:28,290 --> 01:38:30,210
cameras everywhere. Apparently
there's video of him just

1660
01:38:30,210 --> 01:38:31,710
walking away. Well, they

1661
01:38:31,710 --> 01:38:35,820
had a secret hearing,
confidential hearing from the

1662
01:38:35,820 --> 01:38:39,990
defence department. Many of the
US Senators went to it. And they

1663
01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:44,160
all came out of it to a barrage.
This was on C span, a barrage of

1664
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,160
reporters asking them each, you
know, what was what would they

1665
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,340
talk about? And everybody comes
out and says didn't really talk

1666
01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:53,280
about anything. They showed a
film of me guy look drugged.

1667
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,730
Right, right. This is this is a
long clip you can cut out you

1668
01:38:56,730 --> 01:39:00,990
just get a gist of it by playing
the Saxby after secret meeting

1669
01:39:01,140 --> 01:39:03,000
clip where they're grilling this
Senator

1670
01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:05,910
know he's obviously being
reviewed from a medical

1671
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:10,950
situation. And as to his medical
condition that's going to

1672
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:14,790
continue for a period of time,
you can imagine somebody who's

1673
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:19,680
been in incarceration for five
years, has the potential to have

1674
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:26,910
health issues. We were told
that, that his there is no

1675
01:39:26,910 --> 01:39:31,140
intelligence that indicated that
from a medical standpoint, his

1676
01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:37,800
life was in danger. So he is
being analysed from that

1677
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,590
standpoint, and there'll be
further reporting coming out of

1678
01:39:40,590 --> 01:39:43,770
the Pentagon as that develops.
What is your sense?

1679
01:39:44,099 --> 01:39:47,219
Now, you know, you nailed it.
I'm done with this. You've

1680
01:39:47,219 --> 01:39:50,459
nailed it. This makes so much
since they it's it is a twofer.

1681
01:39:50,729 --> 01:39:54,599
They had the kind of cute kind
of MILFy mom kind of wacky, you

1682
01:39:54,599 --> 01:39:57,869
know, hippie dad, and he was
they were right there with the

1683
01:39:57,869 --> 01:40:01,349
President when he announced it,
you know, yo Oh, no they don't

1684
01:40:01,349 --> 01:40:05,069
do that nothing is by accident
with these people. So it was set

1685
01:40:05,069 --> 01:40:07,679
up they had the big homecoming
parade everything was good to

1686
01:40:07,679 --> 01:40:12,239
go. And and I think you're spot
on like and we got to spring

1687
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:15,179
this guy so we can keep the
drugs flowing. The poppies gotta

1688
01:40:15,179 --> 01:40:20,309
keep coming. This is it. We're
done. She I think so except for

1689
01:40:21,359 --> 01:40:25,559
our band camp girl. We have to
play two clips from Marie Harf

1690
01:40:26,279 --> 01:40:29,579
they through to them. So when
these things happen, oh, yeah,

1691
01:40:29,579 --> 01:40:34,049
like, let her do it. Screw it.
Send her out there to defend

1692
01:40:34,049 --> 01:40:35,879
this crab. Well, I'm not gonna
do it.

1693
01:40:36,330 --> 01:40:38,910
Does the State Department
consider Bergdahl to be a

1694
01:40:38,910 --> 01:40:40,410
deserter at

1695
01:40:40,440 --> 01:40:44,520
the State Department? No, Lucas,
look, what we said is we are

1696
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,460
going to learn the facts about
what happened here. We said very

1697
01:40:47,460 --> 01:40:49,710
clearly in a statement from the
Secretary on Saturday that

1698
01:40:49,710 --> 01:40:53,130
Sergeant Bergdahl was an a
member of the United States

1699
01:40:53,130 --> 01:40:56,160
military who volunteered to
serve his country. We don't know

1700
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,740
the facts about what happened
yet on that day,

1701
01:40:58,769 --> 01:41:01,529
according to those randoms. But
to me, it's a squamous company

1702
01:41:01,529 --> 01:41:02,399
Mesa city walked

1703
01:41:03,210 --> 01:41:05,730
there are other there are
conflicting reports out there

1704
01:41:05,730 --> 01:41:08,760
about this law are there there
are out go look googling on the

1705
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,790
web, and you'll find a tonne of
good on the web correctly.

1706
01:41:11,820 --> 01:41:13,560
This one time at bandcamp.

1707
01:41:13,740 --> 01:41:17,460
I stuck a flute in reports. The
fact that the fact is we're

1708
01:41:17,460 --> 01:41:19,920
still establishing a fact
pattern about what happened.

1709
01:41:21,060 --> 01:41:23,910
And the fact is, you know, when
I was watching this, I will

1710
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:28,980
admit to you right now, I
Googled Marie Harf naked, I

1711
01:41:28,980 --> 01:41:33,270
really did. Of course, you're
sick, like I hope there's some

1712
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:34,200
some shot of her

1713
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,320
naked Photoshop, but you can
Photoshop or head on

1714
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,080
anybody but there was not even a
good Photoshop of her naked but

1715
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,210
I was just because they had that
close up and she gets all

1716
01:41:42,210 --> 01:41:45,420
flustered. It has a crush on
her. I have a crush on it. I

1717
01:41:45,420 --> 01:41:49,710
just wanted to flick that hair
back and whip off the nurse

1718
01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:50,700
glasses Ah,

1719
01:41:51,390 --> 01:41:54,600
how he ended up in Taliban
captivity. So when he is able to

1720
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:58,260
share those as Chairman Dempsey
said today he will. He also said

1721
01:41:58,290 --> 01:42:01,170
like any American he is innocent
until proven guilty. Our army's

1722
01:42:01,170 --> 01:42:04,110
leaders will not look away from
misconduct if it occurred. In

1723
01:42:04,110 --> 01:42:06,390
the meantime, we will continue
to care for him and his family.

1724
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:09,420
So I think people need to be
really careful about believing

1725
01:42:09,420 --> 01:42:12,240
every second or third hand
report out there and also what

1726
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,360
the President what the Secretary
what Chairman Dempsey have said

1727
01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:19,050
regardless of how he went
missing it is our responsibility

1728
01:42:19,050 --> 01:42:21,990
to him to bring him home period
you say second

1729
01:42:21,990 --> 01:42:23,910
13 reports when his squad mates

1730
01:42:24,030 --> 01:42:26,550
this guy is not letting up I
love they were there was like it

1731
01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:30,810
was like raw meat and wolves it
was just And none of this makes

1732
01:42:30,810 --> 01:42:33,300
it on the air anywhere except
for C span which is you know is

1733
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:36,390
where we get it from served with
him overseas said he walked off

1734
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:37,050
Lucas I'm

1735
01:42:37,050 --> 01:42:41,250
sure some of them and you look
there's a lot of loader and

1736
01:42:41,250 --> 01:42:44,040
telephone game that's being
played here about what happens

1737
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:47,550
not all the guys on national
television last night his squad

1738
01:42:47,550 --> 01:42:49,710
mates but two mates were wait
for it right?

1739
01:42:49,860 --> 01:42:51,870
I'm saying we don't know the
fact pattern yet here.

1740
01:42:52,500 --> 01:42:56,430
fact patterns a new one fact the
fact pattern is, I'm flying in

1741
01:42:56,430 --> 01:42:57,990
flag pattern. Nobody knows

1742
01:42:57,990 --> 01:43:01,290
exactly what happened that night
as the facts emerge as he's able

1743
01:43:01,380 --> 01:43:03,780
to discuss them with the
Department of Defence. We will

1744
01:43:04,350 --> 01:43:07,470
see where that takes that didn't
happen five years ago. This is a

1745
01:43:07,530 --> 01:43:10,530
situation all this time five
years to determine whether

1746
01:43:10,530 --> 01:43:11,070
there's a desert

1747
01:43:12,060 --> 01:43:14,550
tivity Lucas, I think he's
probably the person who knows

1748
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:16,110
best. What happened on that?
Well,

1749
01:43:16,110 --> 01:43:18,660
I think his squad mates have the
best indication.

1750
01:43:18,660 --> 01:43:19,590
I don't think that that's the

1751
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:22,590
case. They don't know. Here's
his squadmates No, no, no

1752
01:43:22,590 --> 01:43:27,240
anything. No nothing. And now
and so now that just one more

1753
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:30,240
short clip from her. She's just
so funny. Um, just hold on. I'm

1754
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,040
just imagining her naked again.
Okay, we go

1755
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:33,990
out easily. We're not going to
get into specifics of the

1756
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:36,390
agreement. But this is an
agreement between the head of

1757
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:38,700
the government of Qatar and the
president, the United States.

1758
01:43:38,730 --> 01:43:41,640
I love this. So this is so
whatever you do just this was

1759
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,240
high level baby. Just tell him
what was high level? Hey, this

1760
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:50,220
was between our Commander in F
in chief? Yeah. The President of

1761
01:43:50,220 --> 01:43:53,310
the United States. You don't
question him? Who are you press

1762
01:43:53,310 --> 01:43:53,910
boy,

1763
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:55,650
and very high level agreement,

1764
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,520
high level agreement, very high
level about

1765
01:43:59,790 --> 01:44:02,820
working to mitigate the notion
that these five guys will be

1766
01:44:02,820 --> 01:44:06,420
able to return to the battle
five guys, some of the detainees

1767
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,500
to go to their to the expatriate
or to third countries or to go

1768
01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:14,370
to their home countries have
been put under some kind of

1769
01:44:14,370 --> 01:44:15,660
house arrest or here's the

1770
01:44:15,660 --> 01:44:18,000
press is trying to figure out
what the deal is right. And then

1771
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,030
she's really a high level deal.
Shut up. You don't know the

1772
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:22,050
deal. When

1773
01:44:23,190 --> 01:44:26,910
are they able to run through and
get into the specifics of what

1774
01:44:26,910 --> 01:44:29,040
the agreement with Qatar look
like? Why?

1775
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,280
Because it's about the drug.

1776
01:44:32,309 --> 01:44:34,859
I don't know. Anyway, the
Government of Qatar has been

1777
01:44:34,859 --> 01:44:36,959
very clear, again, because the
highest levels of this

1778
01:44:36,959 --> 01:44:37,409
government

1779
01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:39,990
highest levels, you don't
question the highest levels of

1780
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:41,850
this government, that there's
going to be severe

1781
01:44:41,850 --> 01:44:44,070
restrictions placed on them. I'm
not going to outline what those

1782
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:46,950
are. I'm just curious. And if
you can't answer this, maybe you

1783
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:49,770
can take the question. Why
wouldn't the State Department or

1784
01:44:49,770 --> 01:44:52,200
the Obama administration be
public about the terms of the

1785
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:53,250
agreement with the cuttery?

1786
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,190
It's good question. Thank you
very much. There's some good

1787
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,220
there are good journalists with
good questions. It never makes

1788
01:44:59,220 --> 01:45:01,380
it into the front page. drawn
air for some reason,

1789
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:03,270
obviously involved very
sensitive diplomatic

1790
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:05,820
negotiation, all very sensitive
here involving the Government of

1791
01:45:05,820 --> 01:45:08,340
Qatar, who was the one
negotiating with the Taliban.

1792
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,210
And getting to a place in a very
short time window, as I said, as

1793
01:45:12,210 --> 01:45:14,550
General Dempsey said, the last
best opportunity to save his

1794
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:17,700
life where we could get an
agreement here. So there are

1795
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:20,910
reasons not to put out all of
that, I think for probably very

1796
01:45:20,910 --> 01:45:21,510
good reason,

1797
01:45:21,540 --> 01:45:25,620
probably, maybe, I don't know,
was the highest level. But just

1798
01:45:25,620 --> 01:45:26,250
least maybe,

1799
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,160
you know, as more details are
able to be shared, we will but

1800
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,470
it surely if everything was on
the up and up the cutleries

1801
01:45:31,470 --> 01:45:34,830
wouldn't care if the details of
the summit do not a fair

1802
01:45:34,830 --> 01:45:36,240
assumption to make. We don't
talk about

1803
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:41,070
this is not a no, that's not
fair. It's not fair. And this,

1804
01:45:41,070 --> 01:45:44,670
by the way, plays completely
into your theory, John, because

1805
01:45:44,670 --> 01:45:49,140
the deal is, hey, those four
guys now one guy, let him go.

1806
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:52,920
Did you tell them many detainees
we come back to their country

1807
01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:55,770
for a variety of reasons. But
these aren't as high profile

1808
01:45:55,770 --> 01:46:00,330
cases as this one was, again, we
feel assured by the by the

1809
01:46:00,330 --> 01:46:01,260
agreement we've put in place

1810
01:46:03,300 --> 01:46:06,690
for Marie, she I bet she popped
the valley and right after that

1811
01:46:06,690 --> 01:46:11,700
one. For holy moly, boring, holy
moly, that's rough that was

1812
01:46:11,700 --> 01:46:13,860
terrifies me. That was mean to
her. That was just,

1813
01:46:14,340 --> 01:46:16,950
she deserves it. She you know,
she could have dealt with it

1814
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:20,130
much better. She could have said
we don't have all the facts

1815
01:46:20,130 --> 01:46:22,890
right now. Because I get him.
I'll come back. We'll have

1816
01:46:22,890 --> 01:46:25,560
another briefing. And then you
can ask the other girl. I mean,

1817
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:25,920
she could

1818
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:28,560
ask the other girl I like, gosh,

1819
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:32,010
you know, she made a mistake by
trying to take this on.

1820
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:36,300
Could you just ask the other
girl please? Dum. Please ask the

1821
01:46:36,300 --> 01:46:37,500
other girl. I don't want him.

1822
01:46:38,970 --> 01:46:42,450
Like can't do it. Oh, man.
There's one a couple of memes

1823
01:46:42,450 --> 01:46:46,140
that came out of this. I thought
were interesting. One of them

1824
01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:49,260
were and this is only just
bubbled up and I, you know, by

1825
01:46:49,260 --> 01:46:52,440
law did do this deal. Obama had
to ask Congress, he didn't do

1826
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:52,770
it. Right. They're

1827
01:46:52,770 --> 01:46:55,320
making a big stink about this.
Well, some people say, Well, why

1828
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,650
is that the NDAA law or have? No
I think it is. I think it's a

1829
01:46:58,650 --> 01:47:01,020
part of the Defence
authorization.

1830
01:47:01,290 --> 01:47:03,510
Obama has been pulling this
stuff, this slight little

1831
01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:05,490
manoeuvres here and there, even
though nobody's really making a

1832
01:47:05,490 --> 01:47:08,940
big deal. Well, again, he
thought up so let's like let him

1833
01:47:08,940 --> 01:47:09,390
go

1834
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:12,000
there. Well, they thought it was
going to be slam dunk, big

1835
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,940
celebration, mission
accomplished wars over that

1836
01:47:14,940 --> 01:47:16,830
we're playing John Lennon, you
know?

1837
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:25,320
Yeah. Well, he didn't get over.
So there's an impeach meme going

1838
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,720
around? Yeah. Well, you knew
that was good to hear in there.

1839
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:31,950
I heard judge Jeanine that woman
on the weekends have bring it

1840
01:47:31,950 --> 01:47:37,080
up. She brings it up a lot. And
then when Marco Rubio came out

1841
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,050
of the Senate hearing,
unfortunate I have the clip of

1842
01:47:40,050 --> 01:47:43,020
it, but you can't quite hear it.
But this woman sticks the mic in

1843
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:46,830
front of him and says, is what
Obama did in impeachable

1844
01:47:46,830 --> 01:47:51,300
offence. And Rubio, you can if
you listen too hard, you can

1845
01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:55,020
hear but you can hear Rubio's
answer. Rubio kind of weaselled

1846
01:47:55,020 --> 01:47:58,110
his way out of it, but by
refusing pretty much refusing to

1847
01:47:58,110 --> 01:47:58,860
discuss it.

1848
01:48:01,530 --> 01:48:03,930
Well, I'm not talking about
that. Right. I mean, that's not

1849
01:48:03,930 --> 01:48:07,290
something I've called for, quite
frankly, this is we're not at

1850
01:48:07,290 --> 01:48:09,270
that level at this point. I
think right now, the most

1851
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:12,420
immediate concern that we have
with regards to this is what

1852
01:48:12,420 --> 01:48:15,510
danger does now is that this is
now posed to other American men

1853
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:16,980
or women and uniform around the
world.

1854
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:22,530
You know, I don't see the point
of impeachment, but I don't see

1855
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:27,690
why go through it. What is it?
Why spend all this time you

1856
01:48:27,690 --> 01:48:32,040
know, who cares? I think
whatever. You know, you always

1857
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,920
want to impeach these guys near
the end. It's it's something

1858
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:38,460
that makes sure it's somehow
saying impeachment makes it gets

1859
01:48:38,460 --> 01:48:41,760
people all riled up and stuff,
but it's useless. Even we didn't

1860
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:42,930
we impeach Clinton.

1861
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,270
Yeah, we did. Yeah.

1862
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:48,060
No one even remembers that. All
they remember is what he did.

1863
01:48:48,060 --> 01:48:50,820
You know, it doesn't matter.
It's I think it's completely

1864
01:48:50,820 --> 01:48:56,310
pointless. Now, all these people
are douche is the whole the

1865
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:58,290
whole system is douche fide.

1866
01:48:59,430 --> 01:49:00,330
It's pretty douchey

1867
01:49:00,750 --> 01:49:05,760
it's very douchey. Hey, the
Syria had an election

1868
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:11,460
and stand that. But that there
was a landslide.

1869
01:49:11,490 --> 01:49:16,050
Yes, Bashar Al Assad was
reelected. And I did want to

1870
01:49:16,050 --> 01:49:19,140
point out that we have many
listeners all over the universe

1871
01:49:19,140 --> 01:49:31,830
and several in Syria. And one of
our producers there is I want to

1872
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:36,750
second I have it here if you go
to Syria vote.no agenda

1873
01:49:36,750 --> 01:49:43,230
notes.com. Syria vote one word.
You'll see this is a producer

1874
01:49:43,230 --> 01:49:49,110
sub seven zero. And he sent in a
couple pictures of from the news

1875
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:56,550
Latakia so it's Syria vote
yeah.no agenda notes dot coms

1876
01:49:58,830 --> 01:50:03,120
and you'll see seller aerations
Damascus fireworks people on the

1877
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,670
street everybody happy. There's
also a little video down there

1878
01:50:05,670 --> 01:50:09,480
at the bottom, just a link to
the video of Syrians in America

1879
01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:14,370
celebrating. And the way I
understand it is from our

1880
01:50:14,370 --> 01:50:17,610
producers, the Syrians are very
happy he was reelected.

1881
01:50:18,810 --> 01:50:20,730
And that's from our guy

1882
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,160
from our guys. Yeah. From our
guy in Syria.

1883
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,690
And a lot of nice, they had a
lot of nice fireworks. Yeah,

1884
01:50:27,690 --> 01:50:29,340
nice fireworks, a lot of people
running

1885
01:50:29,340 --> 01:50:32,670
around just so you know. And
this is what I was kind of

1886
01:50:32,670 --> 01:50:36,960
looking for. There were
international observers at the

1887
01:50:37,020 --> 01:50:43,620
election. You won't be told
this. Let me tell you who was in

1888
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:50,940
Syria. For the first multi
candidate presidential election.

1889
01:50:51,870 --> 01:50:58,140
observers were Eva Bartlett's
from she's from North America,

1890
01:50:58,170 --> 01:51:02,340
Joseph loss Baker from Chicago.
He's with the anti war

1891
01:51:02,340 --> 01:51:06,840
committee, the United National
anti war coalition Judith bello

1892
01:51:07,260 --> 01:51:09,750
from the Administrative
Committee of United National

1893
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:13,770
anti war coalition. Elias has an
F Palestinian candidate,

1894
01:51:13,770 --> 01:51:17,520
Canadian entrepreneur and
activist Scott Williams,

1895
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,400
international action centre,
national coordinator of the anti

1896
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:24,150
imperialist youth organisation
from the US from fight

1897
01:51:24,150 --> 01:51:30,000
imperialism stand together. Dr.
Paul la Rudy, former Fulbright

1898
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:35,760
Hays lecture in law that the
list goes on and on a lot of

1899
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:40,950
international observers. But you
will not hear this from anybody

1900
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:43,890
and the way I read it, if I'm
just listening to what our

1901
01:51:43,890 --> 01:51:50,610
producers say. And could this be
some kind of, you know, the

1902
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,780
Cohen tell being put on us.
Yeah, maybe. But I think the

1903
01:51:54,780 --> 01:52:00,270
Syrians see it for what it is
that it's obviously the United

1904
01:52:00,270 --> 01:52:03,810
States and probably Israel, or
Ben and Turkey, who have been

1905
01:52:03,810 --> 01:52:06,990
messing around sending, you
know, training al Qaeda sending

1906
01:52:06,990 --> 01:52:10,980
them in trying to mess it all up
for this damn pipeline deal. And

1907
01:52:11,250 --> 01:52:14,820
they won and, and they've,
they're kicking them out, and

1908
01:52:14,820 --> 01:52:19,230
they like Assad. Otherwise, I
wouldn't have voted for him in

1909
01:52:19,230 --> 01:52:22,950
this number. And I'm just going
to say I kind of have to believe

1910
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:26,460
that this was a reasonably fair
elections as fair as ours are

1911
01:52:26,940 --> 01:52:28,080
hanging chads.

1912
01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:34,020
Well, as fair as ours are, we
have a situation here in San

1913
01:52:34,020 --> 01:52:39,570
Francisco where I think the guy
got 70% of the vote. I think his

1914
01:52:39,570 --> 01:52:41,790
name is Jack Lew is in jail.

1915
01:52:42,630 --> 01:52:43,500
Yeah, there you go.

1916
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:48,210
Got this huge, he got more votes
than everybody else running for

1917
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:53,280
one of these offices then is
crazy corrupt guy has been found

1918
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,260
out and all the rest of the
stuff goes vote, which makes

1919
01:52:55,260 --> 01:52:58,740
some people think that these
elections are just that they've

1920
01:52:58,740 --> 01:53:01,530
got access to the computer data
or something. And they're back

1921
01:53:01,530 --> 01:53:03,990
ending these things. And
putting, you know, the whatever

1922
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:06,930
is programmed is what the
results are. Yeah, it's a real

1923
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,070
problem with some of these.

1924
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:10,830
This is the electronic voting I
mean, Syria, they you know, they

1925
01:53:10,830 --> 01:53:13,770
dip your finger in ink, we
should go back to that here. We

1926
01:53:13,770 --> 01:53:17,490
need to Yeah, that would be the
I'm not I'm way against computer

1927
01:53:17,490 --> 01:53:18,780
voting. I think that's a very

1928
01:53:19,230 --> 01:53:22,710
good idea. I mean, anyone who
thinks oh, it's gonna be so much

1929
01:53:22,710 --> 01:53:24,150
easier. We vote on the internet,

1930
01:53:24,450 --> 01:53:29,190
please. And just and sometimes
I'll hear like, Now, where are

1931
01:53:29,190 --> 01:53:32,520
these polling stations? And you
know, some guy's backyard is

1932
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,400
garage. Let me tell you a New
Jersey. My polling station

1933
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:40,650
wasn't some guy's garage. Yeah,
this is not it's not abnormal.

1934
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:42,870
But we somehow we make this?

1935
01:53:44,220 --> 01:53:47,040
No, most of the time. It was
always it tended to be

1936
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:50,490
especially in the bay, or I
think everywhere. They say it

1937
01:53:50,490 --> 01:53:53,400
would be in a guy's garage.
Yeah. And people would go there

1938
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,920
and you'd probably trust the guy
that is running these guys in

1939
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,950
the house there. I mean, it's
not gonna be it's harder to

1940
01:53:58,950 --> 01:54:04,110
corrupt that than it is a
machine. Anyway,

1941
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:15,420
um, I want a category to switch
gears, Dick Clark, Richard Clark

1942
01:54:15,420 --> 01:54:18,930
with an E was on Democracy Now.
And I rarely watch the show.

1943
01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:23,160
That's kind of your beat, if you
will. Did you see this

1944
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,150
particular episode, but

1945
01:54:24,990 --> 01:54:27,420
I was too busy watching the
hearings. He has.

1946
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:31,080
Well, of course, Richard Clark.
Now he has a consultancy, right?

1947
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,910
I'm sure he's in the consulting.
Yeah,

1948
01:54:32,910 --> 01:54:35,340
he and he has it all for cyber
as

1949
01:54:35,370 --> 01:54:40,200
well. He has just written a
book. And it is called the sting

1950
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:47,610
of the drone. And he was on
Democracy Now for an hour an

1951
01:54:47,610 --> 01:54:49,350
hour promoting this book.

1952
01:54:50,430 --> 01:54:53,850
And he's democracy now not see
through this guy

1953
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:58,860
because they're all in come by
Chris Hayes. They're all in

1954
01:54:59,850 --> 01:55:06,030
here. And he said something and
I just went. And they said I was

1955
01:55:06,030 --> 01:55:06,510
crazy.

1956
01:55:06,540 --> 01:55:10,740
You also talk Richard Clarke
about the drone disintegrating.

1957
01:55:10,770 --> 01:55:15,390
Are you talking about real
technology here? How these

1958
01:55:15,390 --> 01:55:20,820
drones? I mean, you yourself
when were the one that suggested

1959
01:55:20,820 --> 01:55:25,440
arming drones arming
surveillance drones. But is this

1960
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,440
real a drone disintegrating so
that no one could detect it

1961
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:29,340
after the attack?

1962
01:55:30,269 --> 01:55:33,929
It's not a programme that I know
about. It may be a programme

1963
01:55:33,929 --> 01:55:36,689
that exists, but certainly not
one that I know about

1964
01:55:37,470 --> 01:55:40,260
there, which means he knows
about it. Obviously, I wrote

1965
01:55:40,290 --> 01:55:44,010
things in the novel, where I'm
stretching the existing

1966
01:55:44,010 --> 01:55:49,350
technology, to where I think
it's going. So that we can see

1967
01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:52,830
in the near future, what kinds
of things we might be faced

1968
01:55:52,830 --> 01:55:56,940
with. And clearly one of them is
if you want to do a drone

1969
01:55:56,940 --> 01:56:03,030
attack, that leaves no trace.
That looks like a gas explosion.

1970
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:11,340
That looks like could you do
that? Car volume today is if you

1971
01:56:11,340 --> 01:56:15,390
use a drone attack, there's
going to be fragments of the of

1972
01:56:15,390 --> 01:56:18,810
the missile. Well, what if the
missile were designed to totally

1973
01:56:18,810 --> 01:56:21,390
disintegrate and disappear? So
there would be no fingerprints?

1974
01:56:21,420 --> 01:56:25,680
No. Yeah. And we look like
actually like a gas explosion,

1975
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,650
like a house exploded out of
gas, which even the guys from

1976
01:56:28,650 --> 01:56:30,210
Mythbusters couldn't make
happen, like

1977
01:56:30,210 --> 01:56:35,790
the Hastings into it while
you're at it. Yep. Well, the

1978
01:56:35,790 --> 01:56:38,670
technology does exist, and I
think it could be used and

1979
01:56:38,670 --> 01:56:43,350
probably is being used in the US
Marshals that are on aeroplanes,

1980
01:56:43,380 --> 01:56:46,170
they are armed and you know, you
can't shoot a bullet through a

1981
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,490
through an aeroplane. It's very,
it can be annoying. They use

1982
01:56:50,490 --> 01:56:55,740
they use these special bullets,
that that are called vertical

1983
01:56:55,740 --> 01:56:59,430
fractal fractal. There's some
they fracture, or they just

1984
01:56:59,430 --> 01:57:02,430
rubber bullets. No, no, they use
bullets. But when they hit

1985
01:57:02,460 --> 01:57:06,990
something, they essentially
dissolve. You get to get a link

1986
01:57:06,990 --> 01:57:10,410
to these types of bullets, but
they are they exist specifically

1987
01:57:10,410 --> 01:57:13,830
for uses. So you could actually
kill somebody in an aeroplane

1988
01:57:13,830 --> 01:57:16,680
with this bullet, but it would
not. So as it gets into the guy,

1989
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:18,630
it's just a bunch of pieces
think it's controlled

1990
01:57:18,630 --> 01:57:21,210
fracturing bullets? Is that what
they're called? That could be

1991
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,910
Yeah, you can look it up. It's
on Google.

1992
01:57:24,750 --> 01:57:26,220
Google it on the web bitch,

1993
01:57:26,250 --> 01:57:28,530
can you a lot of criminals have
decided that these are good

1994
01:57:28,530 --> 01:57:30,990
bullets, because you can use
them in crimes and that bullet

1995
01:57:31,020 --> 01:57:36,210
does nothing left. It's gone. So
you can't look at the bullet say

1996
01:57:36,210 --> 01:57:40,170
what came from this guy's gun.
Now, I don't see why this same

1997
01:57:40,170 --> 01:57:45,150
material, which is a I guess
it's a composite of some sort.

1998
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:49,500
Which on upon impact, it does
strange things can't be used for

1999
01:57:49,500 --> 01:57:52,560
a missile that would be used for
we were just exactly what he

2000
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:54,780
described. Maybe he's telling us
something that we should be

2001
01:57:54,780 --> 01:57:56,670
knowing or pay some attention
to. There's,

2002
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,000
there's always he always has a
reason for saying something.

2003
01:58:00,540 --> 01:58:04,620
Yeah, this guy's he's a piece of
work. I just thought it was

2004
01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:08,910
interesting to specifically call
out my theory of the exploding

2005
01:58:08,910 --> 01:58:12,960
houses blow a blow up into
smithereens, which the

2006
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,660
MythBusters has not even been
able to replicate

2007
01:58:15,690 --> 01:58:18,900
no Mythbusters, which, you know,
I don't think they're 100% on

2008
01:58:18,900 --> 01:58:21,240
the money on everything. But
they have not been able to do

2009
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,850
that. And it's always seems
sketchy to me, you need a

2010
01:58:23,850 --> 01:58:27,780
perfect oxygen gas combination
to get a good explosion. And the

2011
01:58:27,780 --> 01:58:32,070
kind of exposure you have is is
still limited by the amount of

2012
01:58:32,730 --> 01:58:36,690
hydrocarbons that are in within
the explosive material. In other

2013
01:58:36,690 --> 01:58:39,270
words, if you don't I mean you
can have a big explosion but

2014
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:43,050
it's not going to be an atom
bomb. No. And some some of these

2015
01:58:43,050 --> 01:58:46,440
things blow up like it's
ridiculous. I mean, there's it's

2016
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:48,990
not doesn't seem right. And of
course

2017
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,450
you know, when we talk about
these things, obviously it all

2018
01:58:54,450 --> 01:59:00,810
falls under the crazy conspiracy
theories, crazy conspiracy

2019
01:59:00,810 --> 01:59:06,840
theories. And wouldn't you know
it? NPR has a whole piece

2020
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:10,680
running this week about
conspiracy theories. I think we

2021
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:11,610
should listen to this

2022
01:59:11,700 --> 01:59:13,920
and your social science
correspondent Shankar vedantam.

2023
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,650
Muffin drops by with juicy new
research. He's here with us

2024
01:59:16,650 --> 01:59:17,190
again shot

2025
01:59:17,190 --> 01:59:23,100
juicy new research. Juicy new
research. He's a scientist with

2026
01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:24,600
juicy new research.

2027
01:59:26,700 --> 01:59:27,480
What's on your mind?

2028
01:59:27,540 --> 01:59:30,300
I want to talk about conspiracy
theories today. David, by

2029
01:59:30,300 --> 01:59:32,880
the way, if you have a British
voice or Scottish then it sounds

2030
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,630
so much more authentic. And you
can say words like canard and

2031
01:59:36,630 --> 01:59:37,140
farce.

2032
01:59:37,290 --> 01:59:39,540
And this is everything from
whether the US government was

2033
01:59:39,540 --> 01:59:42,930
secretly behind the 911 attacks.
Yes. To where the President

2034
01:59:42,930 --> 01:59:46,290
Obama was actually born in the
United States. Oh, what

2035
01:59:46,290 --> 01:59:49,860
proportion of the US population
would you say subscribes to one

2036
01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:52,020
of these theories? Oh, John.

2037
01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:56,730
I don't know. I have no idea
half at least. Wow.

2038
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:57,480
You're good.

2039
01:59:57,750 --> 01:59:59,190
10 15% Maybe

2040
01:59:59,190 --> 02:00:02,070
I don't know. Yeah, I would have
guessed at most 20% And that's

2041
02:00:02,070 --> 02:00:04,620
why this new research by Eric
Oliver and Thomas wood at the

2042
02:00:04,620 --> 02:00:08,580
University of Chicago took me
aback. They find that 50% of the

2043
02:00:08,580 --> 02:00:11,160
country subscribes to at least
one of these conspiracy

2044
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:12,540
theories. You're good John,

2045
02:00:13,170 --> 02:00:14,550
which keeps the show going.

2046
02:00:15,090 --> 02:00:19,530
But I would consider that our
national treasure. And this is

2047
02:00:19,530 --> 02:00:23,220
they marginalise everyone to
such a degree that I now just

2048
02:00:23,610 --> 02:00:26,520
morons. 18%, maybe 10.

2049
02:00:26,670 --> 02:00:28,710
Well, yeah, the marketers
department must go nuts when

2050
02:00:28,710 --> 02:00:31,290
they get real numbers. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, of course. Like,

2051
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:32,130
what?

2052
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:35,790
How about there's no agenda,
guys? Can we get them on? We'll

2053
02:00:35,790 --> 02:00:37,500
just bleep out the curse words.

2054
02:00:37,650 --> 02:00:41,790
So 19% of Americans believed the
US government was behind the 911

2055
02:00:41,790 --> 02:00:46,260
attacks. 25% believed the recent
financial crisis was caused by,

2056
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:50,040
you know, the small cabal of
Wall Street bankers. 11% of

2057
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:53,070
people believe that government
is mandating a switch to compact

2058
02:00:53,070 --> 02:00:56,130
fluorescent light bulbs, because
the light bulbs make people

2059
02:00:56,130 --> 02:00:57,480
obedient and easy to control.

2060
02:00:58,349 --> 02:01:02,279
Now, I hadn't heard that one,
but I'm in it I'm in but it only

2061
02:01:02,279 --> 02:01:05,249
works if the water is also
fluoridated, that you have to

2062
02:01:05,249 --> 02:01:06,359
have that combo. Wow.

2063
02:01:06,390 --> 02:01:08,580
Well, I wonder if it's worth
reminding people exactly what a

2064
02:01:08,580 --> 02:01:11,520
conspiracy theory is, now knows
how I think about it. And

2065
02:01:11,670 --> 02:01:18,600
this is interesting. So what is
a conspiracy theory? Question?

2066
02:01:18,630 --> 02:01:24,210
Well, if so the word conspiracy
conspire is stems from breathe

2067
02:01:24,210 --> 02:01:29,400
together. Which means that the
conspiracy theory in general,

2068
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:33,930
the way it's applied, is that I
as a conspiracy theorist would

2069
02:01:33,930 --> 02:01:37,980
theorise that there are people
conspiring breathing together to

2070
02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:43,230
do something on some level. That
is the definition of conspiracy

2071
02:01:43,260 --> 02:01:46,500
theory. But they're going to
take this into a whole new

2072
02:01:46,500 --> 02:01:48,360
level, the scientist conspiracy

2073
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,300
theory is where you believe in a
theory where no matter how much

2074
02:01:51,300 --> 02:01:54,690
disconfirming evidence comes in,
you somehow convert that

2075
02:01:54,690 --> 02:01:57,750
disconfirming evidence into part
of the conspiracy. Now,

2076
02:01:57,780 --> 02:02:01,950
I'm just gonna have to call big
time. Bullshit. Now what a

2077
02:02:01,950 --> 02:02:06,720
conspiracy theory is. This is a
scientist,

2078
02:02:06,780 --> 02:02:08,970
this is about global warming.

2079
02:02:09,270 --> 02:02:11,730
So with Barack Obama's birth
certificate, for example, the

2080
02:02:11,730 --> 02:02:14,670
moment the birth certificate
came up from Hawaii, the people

2081
02:02:14,670 --> 02:02:16,920
who believe that Barack Obama
was not born in the United

2082
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,980
States would say, the Hawaiian
hospital now is in on the

2083
02:02:19,980 --> 02:02:21,390
conspiracy as well. Conspiracy

2084
02:02:21,390 --> 02:02:23,190
theories have been around for a
while. I mean, there are

2085
02:02:23,190 --> 02:02:25,290
questions about whether Pearl
Harbour was a way to get the

2086
02:02:25,290 --> 02:02:27,210
United States into World War
Two. I mean, there are questions

2087
02:02:27,210 --> 02:02:30,120
about JFK assassination. You're
not saying that 50% believe in

2088
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,820
all these things, but just a 50%
of Americans believe in at least

2089
02:02:32,820 --> 02:02:34,110
one conspiracy theory. Yeah, I

2090
02:02:34,110 --> 02:02:36,060
think what this research is
suggesting is that the

2091
02:02:36,060 --> 02:02:38,580
willingness to believe in one of
these theories is really

2092
02:02:38,580 --> 02:02:41,280
widespread across the spectrum
and different groups of people

2093
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:44,040
may believe different theories.
But the propensity to believe

2094
02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:46,560
seems really widespread. Where's
that propensity come from? Well,

2095
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:48,600
that's what the research was
trying to address. And you know,

2096
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:50,970
the stereotype about people who
believe such theories is that

2097
02:02:50,970 --> 02:02:53,790
they are poorly educated or
superstitious or that they are

2098
02:02:53,790 --> 02:02:57,090
political partisans. It turns
out the consistent predictor of

2099
02:02:57,090 --> 02:03:00,300
such beliefs is something that
you might almost call an All

2100
02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:03,810
American attitude and belief in
individualism, distrust of

2101
02:03:03,810 --> 02:03:07,380
authority, and together those
things translate into a desire

2102
02:03:07,380 --> 02:03:11,100
to avoid being controlled by
large secret forces. So

2103
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:16,770
in other words, we're I'm a
patriot. That's it. It's an

2104
02:03:16,770 --> 02:03:17,910
American thing.

2105
02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:21,000
Well, you know, the cyber
surprise you didn't catch this.

2106
02:03:22,530 --> 02:03:25,290
It's after you gave me all the
kudos for the drug guy. I'm

2107
02:03:25,290 --> 02:03:31,650
gonna have to tell you something
that it's just very slightly. I

2108
02:03:31,650 --> 02:03:35,130
slightly annoying, but at the
same time, it doesn't really

2109
02:03:35,130 --> 02:03:41,340
surprise me. The Lancet. Yes,
yep. The Lancet came out with

2110
02:03:41,370 --> 02:03:46,680
some studies, not only
condemning the use of fluoride

2111
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:47,340
in water.

2112
02:03:48,210 --> 02:03:52,470
It's very specifically talked
about this. Harvard even has

2113
02:03:52,470 --> 02:03:53,160
this research.

2114
02:03:53,190 --> 02:03:56,130
Well, they're now telling people
to get it out of their watershed

2115
02:03:56,130 --> 02:03:57,120
as fast as they can.

2116
02:03:57,150 --> 02:04:00,660
Yeah, no, we did talk about this
on the show. When I didn't pay

2117
02:04:00,660 --> 02:04:04,290
any attention. At Harvard. It's
a it's a The Lancet and A

2118
02:04:04,290 --> 02:04:08,970
Harvard study say it when the
guys were protesting over the

2119
02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:11,340
winter. This is when this came
out. This is when this is when

2120
02:04:11,340 --> 02:04:14,040
we were talking about it.
Because no one cares,

2121
02:04:14,070 --> 02:04:16,380
you could march 2014 thing so
it's newer.

2122
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:20,040
No, it's it's it's newer, but
it's later than the Harvard

2123
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:23,220
study. Okay, so but it's
irrelevant. You can say this a

2124
02:04:23,220 --> 02:04:26,940
million times I had two people
in Austin saying we Florida

2125
02:04:26,940 --> 02:04:31,140
Water and according to Harvard
study and analyse the lancet is

2126
02:04:31,140 --> 02:04:41,250
no good. Theory The good control
you're prone to No, no, I just

2127
02:04:41,250 --> 02:04:43,650
don't want to be medicated
without asking for it. That's an

2128
02:04:43,650 --> 02:04:47,910
unnecessary and it's very bad
for people with thyroid issues.

2129
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:55,410
Very bad. All right. In in the
UK, it's like all they're

2130
02:04:55,410 --> 02:04:58,680
finding in their water over
there is cocaine. As everyone

2131
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,320
everyone's snorting coke. Ken
It's in the in the in all the

2132
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:05,010
wastewater is at all what's the
main ingredient? I had it in the

2133
02:05:05,010 --> 02:05:10,650
show notes last I don't know on
last week yeah this whatever the

2134
02:05:10,650 --> 02:05:13,290
main and of course the main
ingredient cocaine I'm sure was

2135
02:05:13,290 --> 02:05:17,220
not cocaine I'm sure it's you
know some stupid chemical they

2136
02:05:17,220 --> 02:05:22,110
put in 620 to me see what that
is you're chemists you should

2137
02:05:22,110 --> 02:05:23,040
know these things

2138
02:05:23,100 --> 02:05:28,350
I don't know everything you do
know even close yeah

2139
02:05:28,350 --> 02:05:30,780
you do you know lots of thing
here maybe I haven't here Euro

2140
02:05:30,780 --> 02:05:35,400
land yeah London is the cocaine
capital of Europe.

2141
02:05:35,759 --> 02:05:38,819
That explains the pound being a
buck 67

2142
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:43,530
European Drug Report 2014
analysed the sewage system of 42

2143
02:05:43,530 --> 02:05:47,070
cities for traces of the drug
and found the English capital

2144
02:05:47,070 --> 02:05:51,600
London had the highest cocaine
use of any city tested with

2145
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,180
consumption of the drug
appearing to peak on a Tuesday.

2146
02:05:56,370 --> 02:05:59,190
That's right and notice that is
right in between no agenda shows

2147
02:05:59,190 --> 02:06:02,610
by the way. Yeah, I'm tweaking
man, I gotta die. I don't want

2148
02:06:02,610 --> 02:06:06,360
that. I get no show. The samples
which are taken and tested

2149
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:08,790
during the week in 2013. To
provide a forensic snapshot of

2150
02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:11,250
drug use found London was one of
the cities with the highest use

2151
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:16,470
of ecstasy as well. London
sewage water contains 711

2152
02:06:16,470 --> 02:06:24,510
milligrammes of benzo Ben's
benzo Bennink, Joy leg gunning.

2153
02:06:24,510 --> 02:06:24,870
Yeah, I'd

2154
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:26,520
have to look at it and read it
for you.

2155
02:06:26,670 --> 02:06:29,070
Yeah, did you get it benzo?
Like, like, I

2156
02:06:29,070 --> 02:06:31,860
don't I didn't Don't sit in here
just listening. I don't have an

2157
02:06:31,860 --> 02:06:32,220
abandoned

2158
02:06:32,220 --> 02:06:38,280
Zoie let co Guinean whatever the
main chemical in cocaine. Why

2159
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,440
isn't cocaine the main chemical
and cocaine?

2160
02:06:40,710 --> 02:06:43,800
The cocaine is just kind of a
brand name. Oh,

2161
02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:49,530
really? What is its benzo? Like
go go cocaine. I guess the I can

2162
02:06:49,530 --> 02:06:52,350
imagine that. Hey, man, let's do
some benzo. Like,

2163
02:06:52,590 --> 02:06:54,450
no one's gonna be able to use
this stuff because you can't

2164
02:06:54,450 --> 02:06:55,710
pronounce it. In general,

2165
02:06:55,710 --> 02:06:58,470
cocaine and ecstasy were more
popular drugs in Western and

2166
02:06:58,470 --> 02:07:01,230
some southern cities while
crystal meth remain the most

2167
02:07:01,230 --> 02:07:08,130
popular in Eastern Europe go
Ukraine. However, overall use of

2168
02:07:08,130 --> 02:07:10,320
the drug has continued to
decline in countries such as

2169
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:13,800
Denmark and the United Kingdom
after peak in 2008. Well, yeah,

2170
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:18,390
that's after all the bankers got
fired 11 Out of the 12 countries

2171
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:20,880
also reported falls and cocaine
use and surveys undertaken

2172
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:26,610
between 2000 to 2013 Interesting
that also a lot of

2173
02:07:26,639 --> 02:07:30,779
illegal voting well for anything
people shouldn't be so all

2174
02:07:30,809 --> 02:07:34,499
geared up wired up on cocaine,
it's just not a not a healthy

2175
02:07:34,619 --> 02:07:35,729
product. No,

2176
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:39,330
it will then there's the UK as
well. Prominent GP deaths spend

2177
02:07:39,330 --> 02:07:45,000
says in response to the UK happy
pill prescriptions top 50

2178
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:48,660
million. We do over prescribe
pill prescriptions.

2179
02:07:48,690 --> 02:07:51,300
No, yeah, no, I think your
theory again, I'll give you

2180
02:07:51,300 --> 02:07:55,380
another more kudos which i i
bring up in conversation at the

2181
02:07:55,380 --> 02:07:56,070
dinner table.

2182
02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:58,980
Do you do you bring up my name
and relationship? Isn't it a

2183
02:07:58,980 --> 02:08:00,030
buck 67

2184
02:08:00,030 --> 02:08:03,060
in the pounds where the buck 67
because the banks are all being

2185
02:08:03,060 --> 02:08:05,850
propped up by drug money. The
British banks

2186
02:08:05,879 --> 02:08:15,209
which is why they have to put it
on the GDP now. Right. We know,

2187
02:08:15,569 --> 02:08:19,829
we know that the American
economy was saved essentially by

2188
02:08:19,829 --> 02:08:26,729
the drug money and it's legal
and illegal drugs is both Yeah.

2189
02:08:27,839 --> 02:08:30,479
And has it ever been any
different really? Well, I don't

2190
02:08:30,509 --> 02:08:34,199
know what the East India Company
was about. I mean, okay, so yes,

2191
02:08:34,199 --> 02:08:40,049
coffee may not be the biggest
drug but coffee, cocoa, tea,

2192
02:08:40,259 --> 02:08:43,799
everything the trade is always
based on Happy stuff.

2193
02:08:43,860 --> 02:08:47,460
The real reason you drink have
tea time in the afternoon it is

2194
02:08:47,460 --> 02:08:47,730
certain

2195
02:08:47,730 --> 02:08:51,780
hours to take is for your opium
it's for years

2196
02:08:51,810 --> 02:08:55,950
to get over the little circadian
cycle hump where you get kind of

2197
02:08:55,950 --> 02:08:57,780
drowsy around three o'clock
right after

2198
02:08:57,780 --> 02:09:02,010
after the your your benzo was
wearing off, you know. And

2199
02:09:02,370 --> 02:09:05,070
before we go to the ecstasy,
have a little bit of tea.

2200
02:09:05,550 --> 02:09:09,720
Probably not that as alcohol
it's every commerce is

2201
02:09:10,380 --> 02:09:13,740
I think the old crow reserve
Yeah, it

2202
02:09:13,770 --> 02:09:17,310
all economies revolve around
drugging them people because

2203
02:09:17,310 --> 02:09:19,410
that's the one thing you is
guaranteed.

2204
02:09:20,130 --> 02:09:21,600
Well, that's the only way they
can get by

2205
02:09:24,510 --> 02:09:27,390
that in our show. Oh, there you
go. They're both very addicted.

2206
02:09:27,390 --> 02:09:30,600
That's exactly right. I don't
know why I hit that one I'm in.

2207
02:09:31,230 --> 02:09:34,710
I'm gonna show my school by
Jonah. No agenda. Imagine all

2208
02:09:34,710 --> 02:09:37,260
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2209
02:09:44,190 --> 02:09:47,160
even Coke, Coca Cola at one
point that was cocaine wasn't

2210
02:09:47,370 --> 02:09:52,950
cocaine. Yes. What was called
Kocha. Trevor Lewis in Langley

2211
02:09:52,950 --> 02:09:55,350
British Columbia. Want to thank
some people for helping us out

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02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:59,460
for show 623 including Trevor.
And this is where we'll find

2213
02:09:59,460 --> 02:10:03,780
that we missed it. Are day
$104.20 from laying these a very

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02:10:03,780 --> 02:10:08,520
long note, your long Boehner
inaugural mini stone nation

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104 20 is

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02:10:12,750 --> 02:10:14,010
no rights.

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No, no. Otherwise I'll be
reading Yeah, I can only do that

2218
02:10:18,210 --> 02:10:21,960
particular voice which I like to
do is makes me cough.

2219
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:26,460
Yeah, it's hard to do and it
needs to be part of, of a proper

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02:10:26,490 --> 02:10:29,160
major. Yeah, it needs to be part
of a proper sto nation

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02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:29,700
otherwise, you'd just

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02:10:29,700 --> 02:10:34,260
come by we'll give you a he does
have some interesting rise up

2223
02:10:34,260 --> 02:10:37,650
citizens would consider the
worst pun and filters super

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02:10:37,650 --> 02:10:41,160
important low effect backs. Oh,
he's working. He's out there's a

2225
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:45,180
Crohn's disease vaccine being
tested in Canada. He wants to

2226
02:10:45,180 --> 02:10:48,540
alert people to this because
apparently I don't know if it's

2227
02:10:48,540 --> 02:10:50,700
if you already have Crohn's
disease I don't know how vaccine

2228
02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:53,610
can do anything it's got to be
some sort of a curative whatever

2229
02:10:53,610 --> 02:10:58,110
the case is a look into it if
you get these problems. Benjamin

2230
02:10:58,110 --> 02:11:07,530
fields in Bartlesville Oklahoma
99. First time donor like to

2231
02:11:07,530 --> 02:11:10,650
request a mandatory D douching.
Is not your don't need to do

2232
02:11:10,650 --> 02:11:11,310
show why

2233
02:11:11,310 --> 02:11:12,210
Welcome at D do.

2234
02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:16,230
You've been de Deus to

2235
02:11:16,230 --> 02:11:20,310
thing I don't want to get into
the game as being the first time

2236
02:11:20,310 --> 02:11:23,940
don't it doesn't mean you've
been a douche. It's your douche

2237
02:11:23,940 --> 02:11:27,240
is are the ones who have been
called for years and years and

2238
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:30,000
years and get called out for it.
True. He started listening to

2239
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:32,310
the show like you know six
months ago and you finally give

2240
02:11:32,370 --> 02:11:34,320
true that's pretty much the
model but

2241
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:38,790
somebody if you feel dirty, like
Harry Reid, if you feel unclean,

2242
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:39,240
I can

2243
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:43,980
accept that. Maxwell Frey. 6942
out of Brooklyn, New York. I

2244
02:11:43,980 --> 02:11:47,190
write to you stoned and drunk
hence the donation amount of 69

2245
02:11:47,190 --> 02:11:51,690
for 20. Pretty cool, huh? And he
doesn't sound that drunk or

2246
02:11:51,690 --> 02:11:52,770
stoned in this note.

2247
02:11:53,460 --> 02:11:55,710
I was surprised there's not a
lot of double nickels on the

2248
02:11:55,710 --> 02:11:57,690
dime that came in today. Yeah,
no,

2249
02:11:57,690 --> 02:12:01,200
it was weird. He says he thinks
there's a drone been circled

2250
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:03,120
around his house. I don't go
outside anymore without

2251
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:07,470
disguises. So the drone doesn't
know where did you did you see

2252
02:12:07,470 --> 02:12:09,810
there was a second people should
know this. I didn't take any

2253
02:12:09,810 --> 02:12:12,540
clips from it because most of
them was repetitive. But there

2254
02:12:12,540 --> 02:12:19,680
was a second interview with
Snowden. That went to Brazil. I

2255
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:23,820
Brazilian. Yeah. And it was
pretty much the same stuff is

2256
02:12:23,820 --> 02:12:26,340
that there's a number of
different things. One, he still

2257
02:12:26,340 --> 02:12:30,300
says he works for the government
and incorrect it. Yep. And the

2258
02:12:30,300 --> 02:12:33,630
other one they asked him if he
ever if he uses disguises when

2259
02:12:33,630 --> 02:12:38,910
he roams around and he says he'd
rather not say and the third one

2260
02:12:38,910 --> 02:12:41,730
which there was actually three
things. The third thing was he

2261
02:12:41,730 --> 02:12:45,810
was literally begging the
Brazilian moderator for for

2262
02:12:45,810 --> 02:12:47,910
asylum for asylum in Brazil.
Yeah,

2263
02:12:47,940 --> 02:12:50,700
well, that's the only part that
got out of Snowden would love

2264
02:12:50,700 --> 02:12:53,250
asylum in Brazil. That's the
only thing but I think is

2265
02:12:53,490 --> 02:12:55,470
Russian asylum was extended.

2266
02:12:56,130 --> 02:12:59,130
Yeah, well, I had to be already
be out. Yeah, it's over this

2267
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:03,420
this month. Maxwell fry Frey
Brooklyn, New York. She's 942

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Matthew Cara VITAS in medical
Lake Washington. 6464, Francis

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Lambert and Zabrak. Croatia.
Nice nice

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02:13:14,070 --> 02:13:17,070
Croatia. How's How's the water
level doing that? Let us know.

2271
02:13:17,519 --> 02:13:21,989
Best podcasts University says
Ben Hinke in Orland Park,

2272
02:13:21,989 --> 02:13:25,649
Illinois. Best the newsletter
inspired me to make my first

2273
02:13:25,649 --> 02:13:27,719
ever double nickels on the dime.
These are double nickels on the

2274
02:13:27,719 --> 02:13:30,899
dime. I'll read them off.
Christine Mick Phillips. We put

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02:13:30,899 --> 02:13:36,479
her into the birthdays birthday.
She's already in. Robert demoff

2276
02:13:36,509 --> 02:13:37,739
in London.

2277
02:13:37,830 --> 02:13:39,420
Well, let me just read this for
a second. I would like to

2278
02:13:39,420 --> 02:13:42,870
dedicate this donation by Uncle
Steve Veniamin of Genoa,

2279
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:45,480
Illinois for his birthday. I
want to thank him for

2280
02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:48,300
introducing me to your show.
Thank you both for your courage

2281
02:13:48,300 --> 02:13:51,450
and dedication. Okay, that's
important. Robert dem

2282
02:13:51,450 --> 02:13:59,040
off yes it is. London, UK he's
headed to the Grand Canyon via

2283
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:02,670
Vegas a proceed. Proceed winning
proceed winnings will go well.

2284
02:14:02,700 --> 02:14:07,290
We're not gonna get anything.
Proceed winnings and Vegas. He

2285
02:14:07,290 --> 02:14:09,930
does have a douchebag call out
we have to make it. Okay, bad

2286
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:11,640
call out to Mr. kippers.

2287
02:14:11,670 --> 02:14:13,710
No douchebag

2288
02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:17,730
he doesn't know if any of his
people made it out of club 33

2289
02:14:17,730 --> 02:14:23,490
Live John Atkinson Aiken in
Babson Park, Florida. Now

2290
02:14:23,490 --> 02:14:26,040
there's something that I learned
joven guy did you get his name

2291
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:31,980
because I don't have his V V V V
V V Low. V V V V Low. Nicole

2292
02:14:31,980 --> 02:14:36,180
Nikolas zoom us from Parts
Unknown double nickels on the

2293
02:14:36,180 --> 02:14:40,470
dime. Matthew fuller San
Antonio, Texas San Antonio

2294
02:14:41,730 --> 02:14:47,040
Charles Eves in Lake Zurich,
Illinois, and Steven McConnell

2295
02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:52,110
in Cortland, Ohio and that I
think ends the double nickels on

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02:14:52,110 --> 02:14:56,100
the dime Kevin pain 5069 comes
in commonly. I think he's a Sir

2297
02:14:56,250 --> 02:14:59,970
Sir Kevin pain. I believe so.
Sir Martinez Rivera and

2298
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,110
Florence, South Carolina sending
a note by hand handwritten note,

2299
02:15:04,260 --> 02:15:10,380
it literally is longhand. I
haven't donated this year so

2300
02:15:10,410 --> 02:15:14,460
this humble donation will
hopefully take care of the

2301
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:21,150
Boehner. That's why the meme
area of the check says Oh, memo

2302
02:15:21,150 --> 02:15:25,560
area says sexual favours. What
is that?

2303
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:27,180
Is that first taxes or
something?

2304
02:15:27,390 --> 02:15:32,580
You put in a little note that
our lesbian rights and sanity

2305
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:39,960
show 620 town 21 was awesome. I
must confess I never really

2306
02:15:39,990 --> 02:15:43,860
thought the show these about
Snowden didn't care about

2307
02:15:43,860 --> 02:15:46,950
Snowden. Okay, anyway, it's a
it's a nice note. Thank you.

2308
02:15:49,350 --> 02:15:54,210
Matthew bag Inara in Ascot,
Vale, Australia. 50s are all $50

2309
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:58,320
Chad in mid Los Angeles,
California. Christopher Walker

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02:15:58,350 --> 02:16:04,260
Parts Unknown Michael zoom us
again again. 50 Matthew, Jenna

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02:16:04,260 --> 02:16:08,520
zu ski in Chicago, Illinois,
James butcher in Western

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02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:13,290
Australia. And finally our
regular sir Brett Farrell in

2313
02:16:13,290 --> 02:16:17,790
Oklahoma City. OKC and that will
conclude our donors segment for

2314
02:16:17,790 --> 02:16:21,420
show 623 Reminding again
reminding again people to go to

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02:16:21,420 --> 02:16:23,520
dough divorce.org/na.

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02:16:23,550 --> 02:16:28,170
Yes. Thank you very much we do
have well, we'll get to that in

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02:16:28,170 --> 02:16:32,820
a second personal and do this
for a moment before i go.org/n.

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02:16:32,910 --> 02:16:33,990
A are the birthdays

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02:16:40,379 --> 02:16:43,319
Christine McPhillips, as we just
heard says Happy Birthday to

2320
02:16:43,319 --> 02:16:48,719
Uncle Steve Veniamin of Genoa,
Genoa, Genoa, Illinois. And

2321
02:16:48,719 --> 02:16:52,799
Jackie Priester says Happy
Birthday to her mom Diana Holst

2322
02:16:52,799 --> 02:16:55,859
turns 60 Happy birthday from all
of your buddies. Do you like the

2323
02:16:55,859 --> 02:16:58,769
gospel Bob so much on the phone
to the best podcast in the

2324
02:16:58,769 --> 02:17:05,039
universe? Sir GI Bill Ozzy
becomes a Baronet today. We're

2325
02:17:05,039 --> 02:17:10,769
very happy to have him on board
and Phillip Pfotenhauer is how

2326
02:17:12,059 --> 02:17:12,779
are you? Okay,

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02:17:14,490 --> 02:17:15,720
fine. All right.

2328
02:17:15,749 --> 02:17:18,689
I almost clipped you there with
that thing. I'm sorry. No, I've

2329
02:17:18,689 --> 02:17:24,329
got a little cut here under my
ear lobe. That's high sticking

2330
02:17:24,329 --> 02:17:25,019
I'm sorry.

2331
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:29,670
No. Hi, sticking with the silver
Pfotenhauer, so far that you

2332
02:17:29,670 --> 02:17:33,810
have become an instant baronet's
night thing and we welcome you

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02:17:33,810 --> 02:17:35,940
to the round table and
pronounced the hereby

2334
02:17:36,510 --> 02:17:40,260
Pfotenhauer night and round
table for you sir. We've got

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02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:43,500
whiskey and websites we've got
hookers and blow we've got been

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02:17:43,500 --> 02:17:46,590
poisoned Chardonnay hot pants
and boots, Kundalini yoga and

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Jambo bad science and perky
breasts, Cuban cigars and single

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02:17:49,560 --> 02:17:52,470
malt scotch, sparkling cider and
escorts and of course, if you

2339
02:17:52,470 --> 02:17:56,040
needed some mutton and me Are
you okay?

2340
02:17:57,059 --> 02:17:57,809
Well, I don't know.

2341
02:17:57,840 --> 02:18:03,330
It sounds like you were crying
during that segment. That's,

2342
02:18:03,570 --> 02:18:07,350
that's what I heard. Thank you
very much. We'll go to nodes in

2343
02:18:07,350 --> 02:18:11,010
a nation.com/rings to pick up
your well deserved ring and

2344
02:18:11,010 --> 02:18:14,640
thank you for supporting the
programme. Last night as I was

2345
02:18:14,640 --> 02:18:19,320
prepping around 10 o'clock. And
I'm typically in my office I got

2346
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:21,750
this corner thing of the office
studio. It's the corner thing

2347
02:18:21,750 --> 02:18:24,420
under the tree. So I got to
Windows and all sides which as

2348
02:18:24,420 --> 02:18:27,420
we know we're kind of open and
all the pollen and stuff comes

2349
02:18:27,420 --> 02:18:32,730
in. And I see a police vehicle
going by with his lights on. And

2350
02:18:32,730 --> 02:18:37,170
he stops at the corner like he's
waiting for somebody. But maybe

2351
02:18:37,170 --> 02:18:41,640
it's just me. But at what point
did someone on the police force

2352
02:18:41,640 --> 02:18:44,970
save themselves? You know that
regular flashing blue light

2353
02:18:44,970 --> 02:18:50,040
that's just not enough. I mean,
they said he had flashing blue

2354
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:52,980
and red and his blinkers are
going are alternating and he's

2355
02:18:52,980 --> 02:18:57,510
got like a blink strobes and
little like, like landing strip

2356
02:18:57,510 --> 02:19:02,070
like drip drip drip. I mean, do
we do they think that we didn't

2357
02:19:02,070 --> 02:19:05,760
get the idea of the regular
flashing blue lights?

2358
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:09,809
Well, it used to be red lights,
red light and sirens I mean,

2359
02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:14,940
but but this the whole car was
like it was like a Christmas

2360
02:19:14,940 --> 02:19:15,960
tree Texas has

2361
02:19:15,960 --> 02:19:19,740
the a lot of these cars. What is
the point all car lights up like

2362
02:19:19,740 --> 02:19:21,060
a light show? What

2363
02:19:21,060 --> 02:19:25,050
is the point? In fact, I'm not
even intimidated anymore. I'm

2364
02:19:25,050 --> 02:19:27,480
like, You look like a dick. I
mean, you need you just need

2365
02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:33,150
spinning rims on that thing.
It's crazy. What thinking goes

2366
02:19:33,150 --> 02:19:37,320
into that. It's very strange.
And they

2367
02:19:37,740 --> 02:19:41,490
find it very annoying because at
night it actually blinds you to

2368
02:19:41,490 --> 02:19:42,150
unsafe.

2369
02:19:42,270 --> 02:19:44,310
Yeah, well and they're just
sitting there on the corner

2370
02:19:44,340 --> 02:19:47,190
right on because we're a corner
house right on the corner for 10

2371
02:19:47,190 --> 02:19:49,980
minutes with all these lights
literally. flip, flip, flip,

2372
02:19:49,980 --> 02:19:50,190
flip.

2373
02:19:51,119 --> 02:19:52,289
What was the point of that?

2374
02:19:52,350 --> 02:19:54,840
I guess they were waiting for
somebody but you know, they

2375
02:19:54,840 --> 02:19:57,810
never show up. I mean, no, no,
they don't a truck. Maybe the

2376
02:19:57,810 --> 02:20:00,120
donut truck didn't show up after
10 or 15 minutes. If you As

2377
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:03,750
drove off, and I liked the
Austin PD in general, I mean,

2378
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:07,560
I've only had good experience
anyway. You know,

2379
02:20:07,800 --> 02:20:11,040
they're okay. Yeah, so far. Of
course, there's

2380
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:14,070
always there's dishes
everywhere, but I find them to

2381
02:20:14,070 --> 02:20:18,570
be quite they fit in with
Austin. They're quite helpful.

2382
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:21,180
But of course, that could be
dicks too, as with everything,

2383
02:20:21,750 --> 02:20:25,950
but I'm not against them. But
this is I'm against this. That's

2384
02:20:25,950 --> 02:20:29,610
just stupid. And I think it
makes you look less

2385
02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:35,040
authoritarian. Like, this is
like the circus coming to town.

2386
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:38,550
Really stupid. So today is June
5.

2387
02:20:38,580 --> 02:20:40,500
Eve, that should be a diet, you
play your theme

2388
02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:46,650
I could play that's not a minor
one, minor ones. Today, today is

2389
02:20:46,650 --> 02:20:53,370
June 5, and I've been receiving
these emails for weeks. And at

2390
02:20:53,370 --> 02:20:58,710
the same outfit that was doing
what were they they were for net

2391
02:20:58,710 --> 02:21:06,870
neutrality. f f t f. They are
fight for the future.org. And

2392
02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:10,200
I'm sure you didn't know about
it. But you know, this is

2393
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:13,080
another fine nonprofit. And of
course, I tracked him down to

2394
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:20,070
see where the money's coming
from. Today is grabbed this clip

2395
02:21:20,070 --> 02:21:25,440
today is reset the next day. Did
you not know this, John? I did

2396
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:28,020
not know this. Now. Here's their
little commercial. It's

2397
02:21:28,020 --> 02:21:29,250
animated. We use

2398
02:21:29,250 --> 02:21:32,190
the internet to be ourselves.
But governments are building a

2399
02:21:32,190 --> 02:21:35,640
prison around it. We have to
stop them. But how's

2400
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:38,250
this? Oh, stop, stop. Is this
one of those things with a

2401
02:21:38,250 --> 02:21:39,360
drawing on the screen?

2402
02:21:39,390 --> 02:21:43,050
No, not. But it's similar to
that except that stick figures

2403
02:21:43,050 --> 02:21:46,560
that are already pre drawn and
animated. Okay, it's almost as

2404
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:47,310
bad. They seem

2405
02:21:47,310 --> 02:21:50,340
so vast and powerful. But
government spies have a

2406
02:21:50,340 --> 02:21:54,780
weakness. They can hack anybody.
But they can't hack everybody.

2407
02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:58,680
Folks like the NSA depend on
collecting insecure data from

2408
02:21:58,680 --> 02:22:03,300
tapped fibre. They depend on our
mistakes, mistakes, we can fix

2409
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:04,470
the plan?

2410
02:22:04,980 --> 02:22:08,640
I think right there, what they
what they just said. Folks like

2411
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:11,940
the NSA depend on let me just
roll that back because that gave

2412
02:22:11,940 --> 02:22:15,210
it away from me who was going to
be behind this. I have a

2413
02:22:15,210 --> 02:22:19,560
weakness. They can hack anybody.
Or they can hack everybody

2414
02:22:19,620 --> 02:22:22,740
anyways, like they get it from
tapping fibre. Okay.

2415
02:22:22,830 --> 02:22:26,550
Folks, like the NSA depend on
collecting insecure data from

2416
02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:31,170
tapped fibre. They depend on our
mistakes. Mistakes, we can fix

2417
02:22:31,740 --> 02:22:37,380
the plan, reset the net together
on June 5, one year after

2418
02:22:37,380 --> 02:22:41,700
Snowden first NSA story, we all
take one powerful step to turn

2419
02:22:41,700 --> 02:22:45,990
off government spying and turn
on freedom. The call is simple.

2420
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:49,320
Find some territory of the
internet that you can protect

2421
02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:53,460
from prying eyes, seize it and
hold it. Are you a developer

2422
02:22:53,850 --> 02:22:56,880
promised to add one NSA
resistant feature to your app?

2423
02:22:57,330 --> 02:23:00,840
Are you an internet user
promised to try one NSA

2424
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:05,910
resistant privacy tool, got a
website or Tumblr run our splash

2425
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:09,210
screen on June 5, to show the
world we're resetting the net.

2426
02:23:11,100 --> 02:23:15,270
The SIR moment to rally and
realise our power without

2427
02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:18,720
needing anyone's permission, we
can decide our future when that

2428
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:24,420
safe, open and free and won't be
easy. But if we work hard now,

2429
02:23:24,750 --> 02:23:28,680
the internet will never be a
prison. Reset the net. Okay.

2430
02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:35,190
All right now, is I'm looking at
this and like, Where's this

2431
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:41,430
coming from? And why? Well, so
this is from the fight for the

2432
02:23:41,430 --> 02:23:45,540
future.org I won't bore you with
the details, but you gotta fight

2433
02:23:45,540 --> 02:23:48,420
for the future.org if you
contribute to them, you will be

2434
02:23:48,420 --> 02:23:51,720
giving to the Centre for rights
which is fully funded by the new

2435
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:56,610
organisation Institute Education
Fund. We which you can find it

2436
02:23:56,610 --> 02:24:03,540
new organising.com u.yes.com,
not even.org, New organising.com

2437
02:24:03,690 --> 02:24:12,120
Which this? This is clearly part
of a Silicon Valley push who are

2438
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:18,090
freaking out that people are
starting to understand what

2439
02:24:18,090 --> 02:24:24,120
privacy really means. It's no
accident that Google comes out

2440
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:29,520
with some promise of maybe
somehow going to do is what they

2441
02:24:29,520 --> 02:24:33,270
call end to end encryption,
which I don't think is going to

2442
02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:36,270
be exactly what we think it is.
But we'll wait until we see the

2443
02:24:36,270 --> 02:24:46,800
implementation. The the Silicon
Valley is seeing that people are

2444
02:24:46,800 --> 02:24:51,300
waking up to their business
model. And they're starting to

2445
02:24:51,300 --> 02:24:54,930
catch on to it and they're not
really liking it. And they've

2446
02:24:54,930 --> 02:24:59,340
sent this big letter at me Oh,
Obama, you know, the NSA is

2447
02:24:59,340 --> 02:25:01,110
making us look bad and it's
true.

2448
02:25:01,500 --> 02:25:04,440
And now that they're losing
overseas business for sure time

2449
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:08,580
overseas business. Yeah. And and
quite honestly, it's because

2450
02:25:08,580 --> 02:25:12,420
your business model of stealing
information well, that's not I

2451
02:25:12,420 --> 02:25:16,740
won't even say that of trading,
but in a nefarious way, not

2452
02:25:16,740 --> 02:25:19,590
really being super upfront, but
hiding it in your terms of

2453
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:23,100
service and all this bullcrap it
people are figuring out, you

2454
02:25:23,100 --> 02:25:27,330
know, I don't really need Google
don't really need all this

2455
02:25:27,330 --> 02:25:30,000
stuff. I don't have to maybe I
need some pieces of it, or some

2456
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:32,520
pieces are good. I don't really
need to have your whole

2457
02:25:32,550 --> 02:25:35,610
ecosystem and have you suck up
every piece of me. Marc

2458
02:25:35,610 --> 02:25:40,380
Andreessen was on CNBC and I
kind of liked this piece,

2459
02:25:40,380 --> 02:25:43,680
because he's one of the few guys
that will just go out and say

2460
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:49,380
it. And he's really pissed.
Snowden as a trader. And by what

2461
02:25:49,380 --> 02:25:52,770
happened to Marc Andreessen, I
remember when he sent me back

2462
02:25:52,770 --> 02:25:57,480
when he's in school he sent me
the first HTTP was like version

2463
02:25:57,480 --> 02:25:59,250
1.3. Or something of a what

2464
02:25:59,250 --> 02:26:03,270
happened to John but is being
very large and bald. Yeah. And

2465
02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:08,580
just like a like a creepy. Yeah,
creepy. Creepy. That's creepy

2466
02:26:08,580 --> 02:26:08,760
where

2467
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:11,790
we are in Silicon Valley this
morning. We caught up with Marc

2468
02:26:11,790 --> 02:26:15,240
Andreessen and talked about the
NSA and Edward Snowden.

2469
02:26:16,019 --> 02:26:18,059
Obviously, he's a traitor. Like
is if you look up in the

2470
02:26:18,059 --> 02:26:20,099
Encyclopaedia trader, like
there's a picture of Yvette

2471
02:26:20,099 --> 02:26:20,339
stone.

2472
02:26:20,490 --> 02:26:23,700
All right, yeah. Okay. Mark, go.
Like it's he's like a textbook

2473
02:26:23,700 --> 02:26:24,060
trader.

2474
02:26:24,390 --> 02:26:26,970
They don't get much more trader
than that. I will say I'm in the

2475
02:26:26,970 --> 02:26:29,820
district minority out here. Like
I think most people in Silicon

2476
02:26:29,820 --> 02:26:31,620
Valley would would would pick
the other designation.

2477
02:26:32,010 --> 02:26:34,320
And you think he's a traitor?
Because

2478
02:26:34,350 --> 02:26:36,960
Because he stole national
security secrets and gave them

2479
02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:38,400
to everybody on the planet.

2480
02:26:38,430 --> 02:26:41,190
Do you know what was happening
though? Do you feel that he can

2481
02:26:41,760 --> 02:26:44,730
pay attention here, because he
doesn't think Marc Andreessen

2482
02:26:44,730 --> 02:26:47,670
doesn't really care about what
he did? He cares about what he

2483
02:26:47,670 --> 02:26:52,740
did to Silicon Valley? And how
he basically broke the hole.

2484
02:26:53,340 --> 02:26:56,700
Shut up already. Yeah, we know
that we're given stuff to the

2485
02:26:56,700 --> 02:26:59,250
Feds and you know, but it's all
part of the deals working out

2486
02:26:59,250 --> 02:27:01,800
perfectly. That's why
Andreessen, thanks,

2487
02:27:01,859 --> 02:27:03,839
expose something that you didn't
know.

2488
02:27:03,900 --> 02:27:06,180
So I think people this is
something I've gotten people

2489
02:27:06,180 --> 02:27:08,040
have gotten very upset at me for
saying this. I think that

2490
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:10,470
he likes people being upset at
him, too. He likes to say that

2491
02:27:10,470 --> 02:27:13,590
people are upset at me. And I
think he's a loner. He's

2492
02:27:13,590 --> 02:27:14,340
a maverick.

2493
02:27:14,970 --> 02:27:17,310
I think if you actually follow
the NSA, I think if you actually

2494
02:27:17,310 --> 02:27:20,520
read the books and the articles
and understood the history, I

2495
02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:22,380
think he generally assumed that
they were doing pretty much

2496
02:27:22,380 --> 02:27:26,070
everything that's come out. And
so I big surprise for me was the

2497
02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:28,260
people were so shocked, because
I thought we'd been funny. Let's

2498
02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:28,650
say stop,

2499
02:27:28,650 --> 02:27:31,560
stop, stop, stop, stop. Let's
just look at that logic for a

2500
02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:34,230
second. If you read all the
books and papers and all the

2501
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:38,040
rest, everything that's come out
you already assumed so how's he

2502
02:27:38,040 --> 02:27:40,500
a traitor? Then? He just
bringing out information that

2503
02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:41,490
everybody already knew

2504
02:27:41,519 --> 02:27:44,339
because he stole Doc is but he
was angry said means the

2505
02:27:44,339 --> 02:27:45,599
subtext. Yeah, I

2506
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:48,300
know, you're what you're saying
I think is correct. But I'm just

2507
02:27:48,330 --> 02:27:52,200
pointing out to the illogic of
what he's saying. In terms of

2508
02:27:52,200 --> 02:27:53,850
his conclusion. A head

2509
02:27:53,850 --> 02:28:01,740
is so big. Yeah. And but it also
has like, he has Celie missings.

2510
02:28:01,770 --> 02:28:03,360
He has cellulite on his head.

2511
02:28:03,599 --> 02:28:05,759
Is All that's missing is big
Boyle's

2512
02:28:08,010 --> 02:28:11,280
exactly nailed it for 50 years,
but has 10s of 1000s of

2513
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:12,930
employees and spends 10s of
billion dollars a year.

2514
02:28:13,170 --> 02:28:16,380
No, I'm sorry, I thought that
was you, John, I'm sorry. Oh, my

2515
02:28:16,380 --> 02:28:17,820
God, I'm hearing voices in my
head,

2516
02:28:18,060 --> 02:28:20,910
fighting this agency for 50
years that has 10s of 1000s of

2517
02:28:20,910 --> 02:28:23,310
employees and spends 10s of
billion dollars a year. You're

2518
02:28:23,310 --> 02:28:25,410
not uncomfortable. I thought
they were spying? I mean, that

2519
02:28:25,410 --> 02:28:28,380
was my impression. Yeah.
Because? Well, I just thought

2520
02:28:28,380 --> 02:28:29,760
that that's what they were
doing. I mean, I thought that

2521
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:33,150
that was the I thought everybody
knew that. And so I gotta say, I

2522
02:28:33,150 --> 02:28:35,790
am surprised that there is such
a high level of shock. Some of

2523
02:28:35,790 --> 02:28:37,590
the shock, I think it's fake,
right. So like foreign

2524
02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:39,690
governments getting all upset.
Like I think that's for domestic

2525
02:28:39,690 --> 02:28:42,210
political consumption. I think
the Germans knew full well what

2526
02:28:42,210 --> 02:28:44,010
was happening, the Brits knew
full well, what was happening.

2527
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:47,160
The Russians knew full well what
was happening. And of course,

2528
02:28:47,160 --> 02:28:49,860
they do either many, or all the
same things themselves. Here it

2529
02:28:49,860 --> 02:28:51,840
comes. I think there's no
question though, that a lot of

2530
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:53,370
Americans were very surprised.

2531
02:28:53,550 --> 02:28:58,230
And its implications out here.
visa vie, trying to do business

2532
02:28:58,260 --> 02:28:59,100
abroad. Yeah,

2533
02:28:59,130 --> 02:29:02,700
very serious and very worrying.
And I would say in two

2534
02:29:02,700 --> 02:29:06,180
categories. So first is just
American technology companies

2535
02:29:06,390 --> 02:29:08,490
get a huge amount of revenue
from outside the US. In fact,

2536
02:29:08,490 --> 02:29:10,980
some of these companies get up
to 70% revenue outside of the

2537
02:29:10,980 --> 02:29:13,590
US. And there's a big open
question, right now, how

2538
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:15,450
successful our companies will be
when they go sell products

2539
02:29:15,450 --> 02:29:18,150
overseas. And I think there's a
lot of foreign countries that

2540
02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:21,150
are very envious of Silicon
Valley and Americans dumb

2541
02:29:21,180 --> 02:29:24,030
domination of tech and wish that
they could implement

2542
02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:26,760
protectionist policies. And
they're going to use this whole

2543
02:29:26,790 --> 02:29:29,490
affair as a reason to do that.
And I think that's an excuse.

2544
02:29:29,490 --> 02:29:30,720
That's an excuse as an excuse.

2545
02:29:31,140 --> 02:29:34,290
What should President Obama do?
And you have been very critical

2546
02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:34,830
of him.

2547
02:29:35,070 --> 02:29:37,080
Well, that's that's the big
issue is right now, as far as I

2548
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:40,200
can tell, there's no plan.
There's no plan. There's no

2549
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:42,570
strategy. There's no tactics.
There's no nothing like the

2550
02:29:42,570 --> 02:29:46,260
Snowden reveals. Just keep
coming out. The administration

2551
02:29:46,260 --> 02:29:48,780
is just letting they're letting
the NSA I think hang out to dry.

2552
02:29:48,780 --> 02:29:50,700
I think they're letting American
tech industry hang out to dry.

2553
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:53,250
Like I don't I've not met
anybody in American technology

2554
02:29:53,250 --> 02:29:55,410
industry who feels like the
White House has a plan. It's

2555
02:29:55,410 --> 02:29:55,920
just happening.

2556
02:29:56,010 --> 02:29:58,830
I think it's about time. It's
about time y'all got knocked

2557
02:29:58,830 --> 02:30:03,090
down a few pegs. With your
business model that is sketchy

2558
02:30:03,090 --> 02:30:06,990
at best, it's time. That's why I
like most of what Apple does,

2559
02:30:06,990 --> 02:30:10,350
because they just charge you a
lot of money. Yeah, we'll charge

2560
02:30:10,350 --> 02:30:12,150
you a lot of money. And then
this is our model, we're not

2561
02:30:12,150 --> 02:30:14,340
really, you know, they may have
shit built in the back end, or

2562
02:30:14,340 --> 02:30:17,370
what I don't know what they have
to do, since Steve died and all

2563
02:30:17,370 --> 02:30:22,320
cards off the table. But in
general, I think apples and bar

2564
02:30:22,320 --> 02:30:26,610
business is to sell you
expensive stuff. And now they're

2565
02:30:26,610 --> 02:30:30,210
trying to build in some other
things, whatever. But here is

2566
02:30:30,240 --> 02:30:34,650
Marc Andreessen is nightmare.
This is the nightmare, because

2567
02:30:34,770 --> 02:30:39,630
kids are figuring this out. And
they're figuring it out in two

2568
02:30:39,630 --> 02:30:43,530
steps. One, they they, they
learn about the NSA, and the

2569
02:30:43,530 --> 02:30:46,350
spying and what's legal and
what's not legal. And then the

2570
02:30:46,350 --> 02:30:49,050
logical conclusion is now hold
on a second, this is happening

2571
02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:51,600
through these companies, and
they've given it away, and, oh,

2572
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:54,450
we have to give it away. And
then one day, they might wake up

2573
02:30:54,450 --> 02:30:59,940
and say, Hey, I could run my own
mail server. I don't have to use

2574
02:30:59,940 --> 02:31:07,530
Gmail, what a concept. Here is a
teen caught on video, talking to

2575
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:12,930
Nancy Pelosi. And she is not
prepared to answer these

2576
02:31:12,930 --> 02:31:13,650
questions.

2577
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:17,490
Why do you support the NSA
illegal and ubiquitous data

2578
02:31:17,490 --> 02:31:18,150
collection?

2579
02:31:18,420 --> 02:31:20,400
And this is one of these tours,
you know, where they'll come

2580
02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:23,520
look at my office and you know,
and awesome, that's good. Why do

2581
02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:25,440
you support the NSA is illegal
spying?

2582
02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:30,960
Well, I do know, I had questions
about the metadata collection

2583
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:34,950
that they were collecting,
unless they had a reason to do

2584
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:39,900
so. So I found I was wondering,
I didn't support and support

2585
02:31:39,900 --> 02:31:43,410
Amash, that resolution. I didn't
think that was the appropriate

2586
02:31:43,410 --> 02:31:48,720
resolution. But I do think that
the burden is on this, the

2587
02:31:48,750 --> 02:31:51,510
department and I have fought
them for years on the community

2588
02:31:51,510 --> 02:31:55,500
for them for years, on a wide
swath that they have put out

2589
02:31:55,500 --> 02:31:56,640
there, you did

2590
02:31:56,670 --> 02:31:59,670
vote for a bill to continue
funding for the NSA though.

2591
02:32:01,650 --> 02:32:03,780
It was just one of those
Breitbart kids or something like

2592
02:32:03,780 --> 02:32:06,120
hey, go ask these questions.
It's good.

2593
02:32:08,490 --> 02:32:10,620
National Security Agency, they
do men in

2594
02:32:12,450 --> 02:32:14,490
violation of the Fourth
Amendment know

2595
02:32:14,760 --> 02:32:18,240
some of what they should, what
they do should be subjected to

2596
02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:21,780
scrutiny and some of the things
but they perform many other

2597
02:32:21,780 --> 02:32:26,520
functions, as well. And we hold
them to a high order. And I've

2598
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:30,030
had my biggest fight here than
in the intelligence community

2599
02:32:30,030 --> 02:32:33,660
with the director of the NSA.
Hayden when he was the director.

2600
02:32:33,660 --> 02:32:36,930
I don't think he was on the
level with us. But that doesn't

2601
02:32:36,930 --> 02:32:40,710
mean that there aren't other
things that are there that are

2602
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:44,520
that are good things that are
that are necessary for us to

2603
02:32:44,520 --> 02:32:49,950
have. But from 911 on the Bush
administration went too far. Oh,

2604
02:32:49,950 --> 02:32:50,280
yes.

2605
02:32:50,310 --> 02:32:51,900
It's the Bush administration. Of

2606
02:32:51,900 --> 02:32:53,910
course, blame it on bush.

2607
02:32:55,020 --> 02:32:59,550
We had correspondence back and
forth to prove or to demonstrate

2608
02:32:59,550 --> 02:33:02,490
that. They were just say,

2609
02:33:02,940 --> 02:33:06,150
alright, so she says, I don't
really have an answer. But she

2610
02:33:06,150 --> 02:33:11,370
leads us into our next topic,
which is the brand new director

2611
02:33:11,370 --> 02:33:15,210
of the NSA. We have not really
seen him in public. Admiral Mike

2612
02:33:15,210 --> 02:33:19,260
Rogers. Interesting. His name is
Mike Rogers. Yeah, I know. I

2613
02:33:19,260 --> 02:33:25,680
like that. And if he he's either
on Coke, Adderall, or both. It

2614
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:30,060
looks like also like it hasn't
slept in five years. And he's

2615
02:33:30,060 --> 02:33:34,590
jumpy, and he's, and he is
invited on and it's interesting

2616
02:33:34,590 --> 02:33:41,910
that this was on C span. A forum
moderated by Bloomberg. And I

2617
02:33:41,910 --> 02:33:47,370
was actually I liked this a lot.
The girl who was doing this

2618
02:33:47,370 --> 02:33:51,270
moderation, the young woman I
should say, what's going to

2619
02:33:51,270 --> 02:33:52,560
Trish rate Regan?

2620
02:33:53,190 --> 02:33:56,370
Oh, Trish. Yeah. I used to work
at work. She used to be a

2621
02:33:56,370 --> 02:33:58,920
regular market watch. Well,
first of all,

2622
02:33:59,160 --> 02:34:04,770
she she is. I mean, this is if
we were putting together a

2623
02:34:04,770 --> 02:34:07,500
television channel, she would be
number one.

2624
02:34:08,340 --> 02:34:10,560
She's very good. She's fantastic

2625
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:10,710
at

2626
02:34:10,710 --> 02:34:13,620
CNBC, and then she moved on. And
she was

2627
02:34:13,620 --> 02:34:17,190
CBS. She was at the CBS Evening
News, I guess, and contributed

2628
02:34:17,190 --> 02:34:20,340
to Face The Nation. And now
she's a Bloomberg. I mean, she

2629
02:34:20,370 --> 02:34:21,660
must have done something wrong.

2630
02:34:22,590 --> 02:34:25,260
Because she'd done AI you know,
they gave her her own show at

2631
02:34:25,260 --> 02:34:30,150
Bloomberg. Yeah. And and I used
to try to watch it. But every

2632
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:32,940
time I tuned into it, she was
never on the show. It was sort

2633
02:34:32,940 --> 02:34:36,300
of guy so I think she went over
to she got a good deal went to

2634
02:34:36,300 --> 02:34:40,350
Bloomberg naively. And then I
think they they fucked with her

2635
02:34:40,350 --> 02:34:42,060
because I don't know why.

2636
02:34:42,210 --> 02:34:45,720
Well, she handled herself really
well with it because there was a

2637
02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:50,280
whole bunch of people she was
interviewing on stage and I have

2638
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:54,330
to point out smokin hot am she
plays it well, she got the you

2639
02:34:54,330 --> 02:34:58,110
got the skirt on and everything
to lots of leg, which probably

2640
02:34:58,110 --> 02:35:00,870
made the admiral nervous because
you These guys Yeah. And he's in

2641
02:35:00,870 --> 02:35:05,280
his uniform. And he's actually
in an admiral uniform. This is

2642
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:09,900
the thing that gets me. So he's
like a sailor. It's all white.

2643
02:35:11,190 --> 02:35:13,800
What he's doing is he's wearing
his dress row. Why? Yes, yes,

2644
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:16,800
his wife was, there was an award
ceremony?

2645
02:35:17,970 --> 02:35:20,550
Well, I don't know, he's raised
whites, and he's got his braids

2646
02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:23,070
and everything, and the whole
thing is decked out and good to

2647
02:35:23,070 --> 02:35:27,390
go. And I pulled two clips from
this. Just to give you a little

2648
02:35:27,390 --> 02:35:32,100
bit of a feel about what our new
director of the NSA is about.

2649
02:35:32,460 --> 02:35:35,910
This is his take on Snowden and
the law.

2650
02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:39,180
I spoke with your predecessor,
Keith Alexander, just yesterday

2651
02:35:39,180 --> 02:35:43,470
on the phone. And he expressed
the concern that he thought Ed

2652
02:35:43,470 --> 02:35:47,520
Snowden was at some point, it's
a question of when working for

2653
02:35:47,520 --> 02:35:51,660
someone else. Possibly the
Russians, he might be working

2654
02:35:51,660 --> 02:35:54,120
for them right now. I mean, do
you think that's a theory,

2655
02:35:54,420 --> 02:35:55,980
that's important to explore?

2656
02:35:56,970 --> 02:35:59,670
Clearly, we're gonna need to run
it on the ground, you know, my

2657
02:35:59,670 --> 02:36:03,420
coma would be be part of the
dialogue, if you believe in

2658
02:36:03,420 --> 02:36:08,190
this, use the power of the law,
and the structures of our

2659
02:36:08,190 --> 02:36:13,590
society to make your case? The
answer is not for any one of us

2660
02:36:13,590 --> 02:36:17,640
to unilaterally decide that I'm
the All Knowing Oracle, who

2661
02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:21,210
knows everything that I'm in the
best position to decide what is

2662
02:36:21,210 --> 02:36:25,680
right or wrong. Be leery of a
society in which everyone

2663
02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:26,880
unilaterally can do that.

2664
02:36:27,449 --> 02:36:31,349
Wait a minute. Isn't that the
whole point? That anybody can

2665
02:36:31,349 --> 02:36:35,369
say, Hold on a second, this is
wrong. He's saying Be leery of a

2666
02:36:35,369 --> 02:36:38,639
society. Hmm. What's he talking
about?

2667
02:36:39,150 --> 02:36:42,090
The law, the quote, the
Constitution, that document

2668
02:36:42,090 --> 02:36:45,570
provides a framework for us as
to how we're going to organise

2669
02:36:45,570 --> 02:36:48,630
as a government, as well as how
we're going to settle disputes

2670
02:36:48,630 --> 02:36:50,400
through this framework we call
the law.

2671
02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:58,530
I'm not quite sure what he's
saying here. But something

2672
02:36:58,530 --> 02:37:01,440
constitution, which means shut
up about everything else.

2673
02:37:02,610 --> 02:37:06,630
And I urge all of us as citizens
to use that framework. If

2674
02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:10,560
there's something that you feel
strongly about, make your case

2675
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:13,710
make an argument articulated

2676
02:37:13,710 --> 02:37:16,260
jail if you do that this would
happen to the all the NSA

2677
02:37:16,260 --> 02:37:17,130
whistleblowers

2678
02:37:17,130 --> 02:37:21,750
exactly the point but he has, he
wants to read a different

2679
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:23,160
document or something I don't
know.

2680
02:37:23,220 --> 02:37:25,410
Because maybe he doesn't know
who he's talking. She's talking

2681
02:37:25,410 --> 02:37:26,610
about Boeing about.

2682
02:37:26,850 --> 02:37:31,260
Make Your Case, make an
argument. articulate your

2683
02:37:31,260 --> 02:37:34,650
viewpoint is nuts, like do it
within the framework that we all

2684
02:37:34,650 --> 02:37:37,980
have to use if we're going to
exist as a society, if we're

2685
02:37:37,980 --> 02:37:42,780
going to function as a nation.
Be aware of the chaos associated

2686
02:37:42,780 --> 02:37:45,450
with all of us unilaterally
deciding what we want to do,

2687
02:37:45,450 --> 02:37:48,210
what we don't want to do, what
laws we're going to obey what

2688
02:37:48,210 --> 02:37:52,530
laws we're going to choose to
disobey. That just comes across

2689
02:37:52,530 --> 02:37:57,990
to me as incredibly arrogant
saps slave. This guy is

2690
02:37:58,020 --> 02:38:02,490
really weird. Let me just play
one thing in the middle of

2691
02:38:02,490 --> 02:38:06,180
wishes a bunch of the NSA
whistleblowers who were Binney

2692
02:38:06,180 --> 02:38:08,340
and all these other guys that
we've heard about, we've heard

2693
02:38:08,340 --> 02:38:11,040
from that said, don't talk to
the FBI. They make your life

2694
02:38:11,040 --> 02:38:13,800
miserable if you try going
through channels to do

2695
02:38:13,800 --> 02:38:16,890
whistleblowing, which is
advocating and Obama does the

2696
02:38:16,890 --> 02:38:18,870
same thing. He says the same
thing and these guys have all

2697
02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:21,900
gotten screwed who tried to do
it? They brought up this read

2698
02:38:21,900 --> 02:38:22,860
the clip is hidden.

2699
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:36,900
Oops. Did I lose you? John?
Hello. Oh, no. John Claude, you

2700
02:38:36,900 --> 02:38:45,660
have made a canard. Ah,
actually, that sounded like a

2701
02:38:45,660 --> 02:38:49,680
power outage on his end to be
quite honest. But what I will do

2702
02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:53,370
is I will play his clip, hidden
government and hopefully he'll

2703
02:38:53,370 --> 02:38:56,010
come back by the time we're
done. That is to shut us up.

2704
02:38:56,040 --> 02:39:00,060
They took our computers anything
written notes, any records that

2705
02:39:00,060 --> 02:39:03,420
we had in hopes of finding
something that they could use

2706
02:39:03,420 --> 02:39:04,260
against us

2707
02:39:04,769 --> 02:39:09,209
the to resign from the NSA, but
say the retaliation continued as

2708
02:39:09,209 --> 02:39:12,329
high level security contractors
each time they were hired by a

2709
02:39:12,359 --> 02:39:15,809
government agency. They said
their contracts were terminated.

2710
02:39:16,139 --> 02:39:18,989
It was years before Edward
Snowden provided proof through

2711
02:39:18,989 --> 02:39:22,139
leaked documents. The US
government was conducting mass

2712
02:39:22,139 --> 02:39:26,579
surveillance on ordinary
Americans we are at a severe

2713
02:39:26,579 --> 02:39:30,239
crisis point process of the pair
is now part of a group launching

2714
02:39:30,239 --> 02:39:35,639
a website exposed facts.org Its
aim is to shed light on hidden

2715
02:39:35,639 --> 02:39:36,869
government activity.

2716
02:39:39,480 --> 02:39:46,080
And we definitely didn't get him
back that yeah,

2717
02:39:46,650 --> 02:39:47,490
that was weird.

2718
02:39:47,609 --> 02:39:48,719
I just finished the clip.

2719
02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:54,600
Yeah, they're getting
government. Yeah. Yeah. Did you

2720
02:39:54,600 --> 02:39:56,070
just you can't be knows Yeah,

2721
02:39:56,070 --> 02:39:57,120
nobody, you can't do it.

2722
02:39:57,960 --> 02:40:00,990
Nobody knows anything about this
either. But That's the hidden

2723
02:40:00,990 --> 02:40:03,570
government.org That sort of site
if you're a whistleblower want

2724
02:40:03,570 --> 02:40:07,110
to be one, you're probably
better off going through them

2725
02:40:07,110 --> 02:40:09,990
than you are going through any
of these channels.

2726
02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:15,330
And then we have one more clip
of Admiral Mike Rogers, where

2727
02:40:15,330 --> 02:40:18,540
you can hear him lying. This is
always fun and made you kind of

2728
02:40:18,540 --> 02:40:21,390
got to watch this guy's if you
see him, you'll see it's got big

2729
02:40:21,390 --> 02:40:25,590
dark circles under his eyes. And
it's heads going from left to

2730
02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:29,460
right. And he's drugged, not
something he's just speedy and

2731
02:40:30,930 --> 02:40:33,300
hard to explain. But he doesn't
come across as a stately

2732
02:40:33,300 --> 02:40:37,770
military guy in his whites at
all. And so here we have Tricia,

2733
02:40:37,800 --> 02:40:41,250
Trish die with them. If you ever
die, I'm getting her on the

2734
02:40:41,250 --> 02:40:41,700
show.

2735
02:40:42,720 --> 02:40:45,330
Sorry, if you didn't know she
was the one who was the host of

2736
02:40:45,330 --> 02:40:49,590
the marijuana special that they
did on CNBC. I don't care. I'm

2737
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:50,220
just saying she'll look

2738
02:40:50,220 --> 02:40:58,680
great on the album art. crackpot
and hottie. And she pushes,

2739
02:40:58,710 --> 02:41:01,950
although, unfortunately, she
goes she leads the witness,

2740
02:41:01,950 --> 02:41:04,710
which is something I hate doing.
I hate to seeing someone do

2741
02:41:04,710 --> 02:41:07,260
especially if her stature. I
don't feel she needed to do

2742
02:41:07,260 --> 02:41:10,020
this. You'll hear it in the clip
about the facial recognition,

2743
02:41:10,020 --> 02:41:15,090
which was exposed by our friend
portress in the New York Times,

2744
02:41:15,090 --> 02:41:19,200
although I'm not quite sure what
she was really exposed. But the

2745
02:41:19,200 --> 02:41:24,960
inference was the NSA slurps up
images all day long, and throws

2746
02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:27,960
them through the facial
recognition system, which I will

2747
02:41:27,960 --> 02:41:32,490
point out Google slurps up
images all day long. They host

2748
02:41:32,490 --> 02:41:39,210
copies of images on their image
search. And Facebook. AI has

2749
02:41:39,210 --> 02:41:43,200
facial recognition working as we
speak, Mickey uploads a picture

2750
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:47,310
of me, it automatically tagged
me in the picture.

2751
02:41:47,670 --> 02:41:49,800
Another good reason not to use
Facebook,

2752
02:41:49,830 --> 02:41:53,640
I'm hating this and I'm I'm
actually I'd say Mickey please,

2753
02:41:53,970 --> 02:41:56,010
no more I don't want to be I
just don't want to be uploaded

2754
02:41:56,010 --> 02:41:59,610
anymore. There's just no it's
Screw this. That's really

2755
02:41:59,610 --> 02:42:02,730
frightening. Anyway, so Trisha
is going to talk about this very

2756
02:42:02,730 --> 02:42:05,730
topic. And she she leaves the
witness and gets the expected

2757
02:42:05,730 --> 02:42:07,170
answer, although the lie is
apparent.

2758
02:42:07,380 --> 02:42:10,710
So let me ask you about new
reports that show the NSA is

2759
02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:14,070
using facial recognition
technology to monitor people.

2760
02:42:14,430 --> 02:42:16,050
How does a programme like that
work?

2761
02:42:16,320 --> 02:42:19,620
We use fabled facial recognition
as a fable,

2762
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:23,280
fable recognition. I know he did
to help us

2763
02:42:23,310 --> 02:42:26,130
understand these foreign
intelligence targets we work.

2764
02:42:26,610 --> 02:42:29,670
Counter Terrorism is another big
area, this is probably had more

2765
02:42:29,670 --> 02:42:33,120
impact for us in the
counterterrorism arena than

2766
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:37,350
anywhere else. So it's a big
deal where we see entities

2767
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:41,160
through our signals intelligence
capabilities. And we will know

2768
02:42:41,160 --> 02:42:45,570
them digitally, if you will. But
we want to see if we can try to

2769
02:42:45,570 --> 02:42:49,890
understand them more broadly, to
help our enable our broader

2770
02:42:49,890 --> 02:42:53,910
efforts to bring them to justice
and to forestall their ability

2771
02:42:53,910 --> 02:42:58,020
to conduct attacks against
ourselves and our allies. And

2772
02:42:58,050 --> 02:43:01,530
friends. In other words, yeah,
we use fake facial recognition

2773
02:43:01,530 --> 02:43:04,410
everywhere. To track people

2774
02:43:04,440 --> 02:43:05,460
in the world around us.

2775
02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:07,620
What is he talking about
bringing them to justice? If

2776
02:43:07,620 --> 02:43:09,600
they committed a crime? Why
don't they go just go out and

2777
02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:10,140
arrest them?

2778
02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:13,470
Because it's a made up it's made
up in them to

2779
02:43:13,470 --> 02:43:14,250
justice that

2780
02:43:14,250 --> 02:43:16,200
was just made up, man undo it.
It's all

2781
02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:20,310
their ability to conduct attacks
against ourselves and our allies

2782
02:43:20,640 --> 02:43:25,410
and friends and the world around
us. We do not if I could just

2783
02:43:25,410 --> 02:43:27,990
one thing Shut up. We Trish,

2784
02:43:28,410 --> 02:43:32,730
Trish. I never lie, though. I'm
suspicious. Now. Trish?

2785
02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:38,310
We do not do this in some
unilateral basis against US

2786
02:43:38,340 --> 02:43:44,700
citizens. We do access stereo at
one point I saw someone say,

2787
02:43:44,700 --> 02:43:47,910
well, they must be accessing
Department of Motor Vehicles.

2788
02:43:48,270 --> 02:43:48,780
You don't?

2789
02:43:50,610 --> 02:43:54,540
Trish really? You didn't have to
do that. Why are you defending

2790
02:43:54,540 --> 02:43:56,700
the NSA? I liked you so much.

2791
02:43:56,730 --> 02:43:58,980
Did you notice his wording? Oh,
yeah, no, it's

2792
02:43:58,980 --> 02:44:01,260
gonna get better. It's gonna get
better with the word and gets

2793
02:44:01,290 --> 02:44:02,550
even better citizens.

2794
02:44:03,060 --> 02:44:08,550
We do access. Estelle at one
point I saw someone say, well,

2795
02:44:08,550 --> 02:44:11,460
they must be accessing
Department of Motor Vehicles.

2796
02:44:11,820 --> 02:44:16,920
You don't Don't? Don't I'm like,
No, we don't do that. We have

2797
02:44:16,920 --> 02:44:20,940
very specific restrictions when
it comes to us persons. We have

2798
02:44:20,940 --> 02:44:22,650
to operate under a legal

2799
02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:25,350
framework, but you don't have
access to driver's licence, you

2800
02:44:25,350 --> 02:44:32,010
don't have access to passport
photos. You would would have

2801
02:44:32,010 --> 02:44:33,540
access to some of those things.
I

2802
02:44:33,540 --> 02:44:35,610
mean, when we're talking about
for US persons

2803
02:44:35,640 --> 02:44:39,150
we're talking about for USPS he
has to say three times we're

2804
02:44:39,150 --> 02:44:41,370
talking about for US persons but
for US persons right for us

2805
02:44:41,370 --> 02:44:45,630
persons right. In other words,
yeah, they have access to the

2806
02:44:45,630 --> 02:44:50,010
DMV and the passport pictures.
They just saying we don't use

2807
02:44:50,010 --> 02:44:53,130
them against US persons without
permission, but they have total

2808
02:44:53,130 --> 02:44:53,640
access.

2809
02:44:55,500 --> 02:44:59,880
I think they I think the most
still the best phrases used is

2810
02:44:59,880 --> 02:45:05,070
we You do not do this on a
unilateral basis? Yes. And that

2811
02:45:05,070 --> 02:45:10,560
means he's in, you know, in bed
with Facebook, Google, or

2812
02:45:10,560 --> 02:45:13,890
whoever else has a huge cache of
photos and pictures. What is

2813
02:45:13,890 --> 02:45:14,100
that?

2814
02:45:14,130 --> 02:45:17,310
What does he explain to me the
exact meaning of unilateral

2815
02:45:17,310 --> 02:45:17,940
basis,

2816
02:45:18,000 --> 02:45:21,180
that means we're doing it on our
own. We're doing it by

2817
02:45:21,180 --> 02:45:24,390
ourselves. We're not hey, we're
we're unilaterally means you're

2818
02:45:24,510 --> 02:45:28,530
unilateral. I'm just gonna do
this. Screw any my partners or

2819
02:45:28,530 --> 02:45:33,120
anybody's I'm doing it. And if
you're not unilateral, that

2820
02:45:33,120 --> 02:45:35,310
means you're multilateral,
meaning you have other people

2821
02:45:35,310 --> 02:45:36,750
involved in the process.

2822
02:45:37,199 --> 02:45:40,139
And it would only make sense
seeing as the director of FBI

2823
02:45:40,139 --> 02:45:44,129
has an office at Facebook,
right? You know, that these

2824
02:45:44,129 --> 02:45:44,429
guys,

2825
02:45:44,730 --> 02:45:47,850
anytime somebody uses the word
unilateral, as they're, as

2826
02:45:47,850 --> 02:45:51,030
they're out there, then there
that's, that's a scam, let's

2827
02:45:51,030 --> 02:45:51,240
back

2828
02:45:51,240 --> 02:45:52,590
it up a little to that again,
and the

2829
02:45:52,590 --> 02:45:56,490
world around. You do not if I
could just finish one thing,

2830
02:45:56,490 --> 02:46:02,100
Trish, we do not do this in some
unilateral basis against US

2831
02:46:02,130 --> 02:46:02,820
citizens.

2832
02:46:03,840 --> 02:46:06,990
Which means we do it in a
multilateral basis against US

2833
02:46:06,990 --> 02:46:11,160
citizens. By having our partners
Marc Andreessen funded companies

2834
02:46:11,220 --> 02:46:15,450
like Facebook and Google and
Uber and whatever else they're

2835
02:46:15,450 --> 02:46:19,980
into. This is the connection
that people have to start

2836
02:46:19,980 --> 02:46:21,720
making. This is the connection
people.

2837
02:46:23,370 --> 02:46:27,900
Access. Estelle, at one point, I
saw someone say, well, they must

2838
02:46:27,900 --> 02:46:33,720
be accessing Department of Motor
Vehicles. You don't? I'm like,

2839
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:37,680
No, we don't do that. We have
very specific restrictions when

2840
02:46:37,680 --> 02:46:41,640
it comes to us persons. We have
to operate under a legal

2841
02:46:41,670 --> 02:46:42,300
framework.

2842
02:46:42,900 --> 02:46:45,150
We have access to driver's
licence, you don't have access

2843
02:46:45,150 --> 02:46:51,990
to passport photos. You wouldn't
would have access to some of

2844
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:52,980
those things. I mean, what

2845
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:55,890
we're talking about for US
persons do this for

2846
02:46:55,890 --> 02:46:59,430
us. Why is she saying Correct?
Trish versus

2847
02:46:59,460 --> 02:47:04,140
again, why our mission is as the
NSA is very explicit. Foreign

2848
02:47:04,140 --> 02:47:07,800
intelligence and information
assurance, foreign intelligence,

2849
02:47:08,580 --> 02:47:12,660
connected, we have to do
anything involving a US person,

2850
02:47:12,660 --> 02:47:16,290
we have specific legal
constraints we must comply with.

2851
02:47:16,590 --> 02:47:20,610
We just don't unilaterally
decide, Hey, today, I'm going to

2852
02:47:20,610 --> 02:47:25,290
go after Citizen X, Y or Z. We
don't do that. We can't legally

2853
02:47:25,320 --> 02:47:25,890
do that.

2854
02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:30,180
But there are people that you
know, you wanted to target

2855
02:47:30,210 --> 02:47:33,000
in the dip. Let me finish one
thought before I forget. And

2856
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:36,810
we'll get shut up. Clearly, in
the digital age, we will

2857
02:47:36,810 --> 02:47:40,440
encounter American persons in
the wilderness out there so to

2858
02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:42,540
speak. Hey,

2859
02:47:42,630 --> 02:47:46,500
hey, I'm an American person out
here in the wilderness. I hope

2860
02:47:46,500 --> 02:47:47,130
you don't bump into

2861
02:47:47,850 --> 02:47:52,110
this guy is real old school
navy. Oh, yeah. I mean, the Navy

2862
02:47:52,110 --> 02:47:55,350
guys, the commanders, the ship
captains, there's a whole group

2863
02:47:55,350 --> 02:47:57,690
of them. They're the Navy
elites, the ones who are in

2864
02:47:57,720 --> 02:48:00,900
position commander, because you
can be an admiral but not be in

2865
02:48:00,900 --> 02:48:05,760
command position. And these guys
are, I just told this when I was

2866
02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:07,920
working for the air pollution
district, we used to go from

2867
02:48:07,920 --> 02:48:12,780
ship to ship to give these guys
tickets, and for blowing their

2868
02:48:12,780 --> 02:48:18,990
smoke out of their stacks. So to
speak. And they got you go in

2869
02:48:18,990 --> 02:48:21,480
there and you meet the captain
is usually a commander or maybe

2870
02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:26,130
sometimes captain in rank. And I
was told this by the some of the

2871
02:48:26,130 --> 02:48:29,280
ex Navy guys that worked at the
district after my first

2872
02:48:29,280 --> 02:48:33,000
experience. And they said this
guys are the most arrogant

2873
02:48:33,150 --> 02:48:38,850
pricks. You have ever run into
these guys that are in this in

2874
02:48:38,850 --> 02:48:41,550
the certain command positions in
the Navy, they have a certain

2875
02:48:41,550 --> 02:48:46,110
quality about them. That is just
what this guy is exuding kind of

2876
02:48:46,110 --> 02:48:51,060
an arrogant prick that you just
hear it coming out of him. It's

2877
02:48:51,060 --> 02:48:52,890
just he's trying to have a
conversation.

2878
02:48:52,920 --> 02:48:55,260
Yeah. And American citizens, you
might encounter them in the

2879
02:48:55,260 --> 02:48:59,520
wild. You know, there's only 300
million of us and we might

2880
02:48:59,520 --> 02:49:01,500
encounter them in the wild, so
to speak,

2881
02:49:01,529 --> 02:49:05,249
we have specific restrictions
about what happens once we do

2882
02:49:05,249 --> 02:49:09,449
encounter US persons. In broad
terms, we got to stop what we're

2883
02:49:09,449 --> 02:49:09,839
doing

2884
02:49:09,900 --> 02:49:15,450
in broad terms. That's actually
a very narrow term. But okay,

2885
02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:18,210
if we come to the realisation
that somebody that we're

2886
02:49:18,210 --> 02:49:21,240
monitoring that we're tracking
is a US connection that we were

2887
02:49:21,240 --> 02:49:25,860
unaware of, in broad terms, we
have to stop what we're doing.

2888
02:49:26,370 --> 02:49:29,730
We have to assess the situation.
And if we think there's a legal

2889
02:49:29,730 --> 02:49:33,180
basis to this, then we have to
get a legal authority or

2890
02:49:33,180 --> 02:49:36,360
justification to continue legal
justification.

2891
02:49:36,390 --> 02:49:40,350
Yeah, this is the same bullcrap
we've been hearing from the

2892
02:49:40,350 --> 02:49:42,930
beginning he's just somehow I
guess he's up did he they're

2893
02:49:42,930 --> 02:49:45,600
testing to see if he's up to
speed with his I don't think

2894
02:49:45,600 --> 02:49:47,790
he's gonna last John. I don't
think this is gonna He's gonna

2895
02:49:47,790 --> 02:49:49,680
mess it up. Something's gonna
it's not gonna

2896
02:49:49,680 --> 02:49:52,650
last as arrogant as it sounds
like he is he's not gonna last

2897
02:49:52,650 --> 02:49:55,980
because he's gonna act the same
way. You know, you can do it

2898
02:49:55,980 --> 02:49:59,040
with Treasury, Reagan or
anybody, any reporter you can

2899
02:49:59,040 --> 02:50:03,510
act like a jerk. But if he goes
in front of Congress at least

2900
02:50:03,570 --> 02:50:06,210
these these other characters in
front of Congress are reticent

2901
02:50:06,210 --> 02:50:09,030
you know, they shouldn't be on
Valium. If this guy goes in

2902
02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:11,400
front of Congress and starts
talking like this in front of

2903
02:50:11,400 --> 02:50:12,240
John McCain.

2904
02:50:12,270 --> 02:50:14,700
They're gonna they're gonna
they're gonna eat him alive.

2905
02:50:15,239 --> 02:50:18,749
They're gonna kill him. Yeah,
they're gonna just go on and on

2906
02:50:18,749 --> 02:50:21,239
and on. It's gonna be very it's
gonna be ugly. It'd be great for

2907
02:50:21,239 --> 02:50:24,869
us. But ya know, this guy you
might you might be right out I

2908
02:50:24,869 --> 02:50:27,299
think he has. He has the chops
for it. He doesn't know how to

2909
02:50:27,299 --> 02:50:32,009
back off is because is kind of
brazen, arrogant, arrogant

2910
02:50:32,009 --> 02:50:35,099
quality. It's ludicrous. It just
comes right through the clip

2911
02:50:36,450 --> 02:50:40,290
and I like Trish so much but
once he started leading him on

2912
02:50:40,290 --> 02:50:42,150
well then you don't even have
that you can do that. No, you

2913
02:50:42,150 --> 02:50:44,430
don't have the right commitment
and I trash

2914
02:50:45,690 --> 02:50:48,720
so cherish love affair is over
you

2915
02:50:48,720 --> 02:50:49,590
know a Cheryl.

2916
02:50:50,400 --> 02:50:52,530
I don't know a Cheryl Cheryl
Atkinson.

2917
02:50:52,950 --> 02:50:53,310
at

2918
02:50:53,340 --> 02:50:54,810
ABC. Maybe

2919
02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:58,920
she's the she's the the
journalist that quit CBS, CBS I

2920
02:50:58,920 --> 02:51:03,420
think I'd have to look. Yeah,
no, she so she quit CBS. He said

2921
02:51:03,780 --> 02:51:09,030
I wasn't allowed to do my
stories. And she, yeah,

2922
02:51:09,390 --> 02:51:10,710
she's I don't know her.

2923
02:51:11,580 --> 02:51:15,780
Well, she's, she's older. So
she's more MILFy

2924
02:51:16,920 --> 02:51:19,590
I love this woman. Yeah, this
one. Yeah, I've always liked

2925
02:51:19,590 --> 02:51:19,920
her.

2926
02:51:19,980 --> 02:51:23,460
Me too. And I think I like her
even more, although she now is

2927
02:51:23,460 --> 02:51:29,700
doing something for let me see
some organisation. Hold on. I

2928
02:51:29,700 --> 02:51:36,300
wrote it down, which I like Oh,
no. It's about I'll tell you

2929
02:51:36,300 --> 02:51:40,890
what it is here. It was she was
interviewed. Because she's she

2930
02:51:40,890 --> 02:51:44,310
has a book coming out. Yes. She
was on Florida girl. CBSE Is she

2931
02:51:44,310 --> 02:51:47,910
a Florida girl? Yeah, born in
Florida. Then she came to the

2932
02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:50,310
rank. She she really she worked
hard to get to where she was.

2933
02:51:50,310 --> 02:51:53,610
And she's she's very, she's also
a third third degree black belt

2934
02:51:53,610 --> 02:51:58,020
in Taekwondo. I like a woman
that can kick my ass and break

2935
02:51:58,020 --> 02:52:02,520
my break my neck. Here. She's
being interviewed about her

2936
02:52:02,520 --> 02:52:07,020
book, and heard where she wants
her career to take her. And

2937
02:52:07,050 --> 02:52:08,130
listen to this one minute.

2938
02:52:08,190 --> 02:52:11,430
What I hope to do with
stonewalled is explained to the

2939
02:52:11,430 --> 02:52:16,410
public how images that they see
every day, not just on the news,

2940
02:52:16,410 --> 02:52:19,620
but including in the news, but
on social media, on television

2941
02:52:19,620 --> 02:52:24,090
on billboards, how these images
are manipulated in covert and

2942
02:52:24,090 --> 02:52:28,320
surreptitious ways by political
forces and financially backed

2943
02:52:28,320 --> 02:52:32,160
forces that they have no idea
about. If you can become savvy

2944
02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:35,850
to this manipulation, and
sometimes outright propaganda,

2945
02:52:36,030 --> 02:52:38,910
you can learn to recognise it
and sort of filter through it,

2946
02:52:39,120 --> 02:52:41,370
which I think helps people make
up their own mind about what's

2947
02:52:41,370 --> 02:52:45,690
really going on in the world. No
movement in Washington, DC to

2948
02:52:45,720 --> 02:52:48,420
affect public opinion in ways
other than direct lobbying

2949
02:52:48,420 --> 02:52:50,790
people know about campaign
lobbying contributions given

2950
02:52:50,790 --> 02:52:54,120
directly to members of Congress.
Now there's a whole industry set

2951
02:52:54,120 --> 02:52:57,240
up around manipulating public
opinion or swaying public

2952
02:52:57,240 --> 02:53:00,960
opinion in other ways through
social media, maybe setting up

2953
02:53:01,170 --> 02:53:04,140
blind accounts or accounts
through pseudonyms through

2954
02:53:04,320 --> 02:53:08,850
editing Wikipedia in certain
ways through posting on Twitter

2955
02:53:08,850 --> 02:53:12,300
and Facebook, there are all
kinds of ways that people's

2956
02:53:12,300 --> 02:53:15,150
opinions are being shaped
through forces that they don't

2957
02:53:15,150 --> 02:53:17,940
know are behind the shaping of
those opinions. And I really

2958
02:53:17,940 --> 02:53:20,460
think it's important that people
know who's behind the efforts.

2959
02:53:21,390 --> 02:53:22,710
I like Yeah.

2960
02:53:23,730 --> 02:53:24,900
Around the money Yeah.

2961
02:53:25,470 --> 02:53:28,380
The only problem is she's now
working independently part time

2962
02:53:28,380 --> 02:53:34,680
for some quasi news thing that
is financed by the Heritage

2963
02:53:35,070 --> 02:53:39,900
Institute or that was good Al
Jazeera written all over you

2964
02:53:39,900 --> 02:53:42,540
watch but you know as Why would
if you want to be independent

2965
02:53:42,540 --> 02:53:45,270
Why go to the hair Why go to get
your money from heritage? I

2966
02:53:45,270 --> 02:53:48,120
mean, isn't that completely
partisan on the right?

2967
02:53:48,810 --> 02:53:55,380
Yeah, totally. I think it's Koch
brothers. Serious

2968
02:53:55,410 --> 02:53:59,010
Yeah, but I was just like, why
oh, that that breaks. That

2969
02:53:59,010 --> 02:54:02,070
breaks the whole thing. All of
this goodness that I heard from

2970
02:54:02,070 --> 02:54:06,180
her. I just can't find the name
of that outfit. The name of the

2971
02:54:06,210 --> 02:54:07,920
business pissing me off now.

2972
02:54:08,220 --> 02:54:10,560
It's not in our wiki. No, but

2973
02:54:11,490 --> 02:54:16,080
it's brand new. Oh, I know how
to find it. Hold on. I know.

2974
02:54:19,230 --> 02:54:22,410
Where was it Cheryl? Cheryl
Cheryl Attkisson Here we go.

2975
02:54:23,670 --> 02:54:28,740
Life after CBS linked to article
here we go. Was that just a

2976
02:54:28,740 --> 02:54:37,860
YouTube video that I had the
Daily Signal Oh god. I mean,

2977
02:54:37,890 --> 02:54:41,520
you're gonna leave CBS you got
this great rap and go to the

2978
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:47,220
daily let's find out the daily
signal. And it's not even

2979
02:54:47,250 --> 02:54:51,510
hidden. The easier the dailies
single Heritage Foundation seeks

2980
02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:56,220
new site. New Site seeks
mainstream impact. Now

2981
02:54:58,530 --> 02:55:00,330
well, they got a lot of maybe
they're at least In your

2982
02:55:00,870 --> 02:55:02,310
networks salary Oh,

2983
02:55:02,310 --> 02:55:04,500
I'm sure it doesn't she hasn't
looked worried. I'll tell you

2984
02:55:04,500 --> 02:55:08,730
that. It Bloomberg even says the
tea party gets into the news

2985
02:55:08,730 --> 02:55:11,970
biz. I mean, it's completely one
sided. partisan. Why would she

2986
02:55:11,970 --> 02:55:19,110
do that? Disappointing.
Disappointing. Disappointing. I

2987
02:55:19,110 --> 02:55:22,530
think I think going back to
Trish, I think Trisha saveable.

2988
02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:34,800
Yeah, maybe, whatever the case.
Okay. I have a few clips I'm

2989
02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:36,930
going to save for Thursday,
which is

2990
02:55:36,960 --> 02:55:38,070
how about for Sunday?

2991
02:55:40,140 --> 02:55:46,170
Okay, I can move it up. Exactly.
Which will be a move the

2992
02:55:46,170 --> 02:55:49,620
environmental stuff with these
guys. I do have I do want to do

2993
02:55:49,620 --> 02:55:55,230
a reprise of the early
discussion of, of the freeze, do

2994
02:55:55,230 --> 02:55:58,980
the First Amendment just got an
amendment to amend the First

2995
02:55:58,980 --> 02:56:02,730
Amendment? Yes, I did catch
this, which is, this is just a

2996
02:56:02,730 --> 02:56:05,730
little bit this is Harry Reid,
again, when he's giving his

2997
02:56:06,090 --> 02:56:11,220
speech is opening. This is just
the end of it. Because he says

2998
02:56:11,220 --> 02:56:14,430
something I wish I could boost
it or I maybe I'll re edit it

2999
02:56:14,430 --> 02:56:20,250
and boost it. It is just this is
the one read has places to go.

3000
02:56:20,640 --> 02:56:26,460
He ends up leaving the whole
thing. With this lame, I got

3001
02:56:26,460 --> 02:56:30,090
places to go things to do. I
just thought it hilarious.

3002
02:56:30,600 --> 02:56:33,150
I got flesh to press babies to
kiss.

3003
02:56:34,080 --> 02:56:38,430
Free Speech shouldn't cost the
American people a penny a dime,

3004
02:56:38,640 --> 02:56:42,390
certainly not $1. So, Mr.
Chairman, members, the

3005
02:56:42,390 --> 02:56:45,660
committee, I'm happy if you have
questions that you want to ask

3006
02:56:45,660 --> 02:56:52,050
me to wait, and I'm happy to do
that. Otherwise, I would ask

3007
02:56:52,050 --> 02:56:56,130
your leave and I will believe
places to go thank you.

3008
02:56:59,250 --> 02:57:02,550
I got places I got things to do.
I got no time for you. This is

3009
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:04,290
the go. Morons.

3010
02:57:04,380 --> 02:57:07,890
laughing when I heard that. And
he left he got up and took off

3011
02:57:07,890 --> 02:57:15,270
and of course, of course.
Lovely. Anyway, I think I think

3012
02:57:15,570 --> 02:57:16,860
kids everyone up to date.

3013
02:57:16,920 --> 02:57:20,160
Yeah, I think that can conclude
our show. For today I'm keeping

3014
02:57:20,160 --> 02:57:25,080
track of the MERS mean, which
seems to be just another version

3015
02:57:25,080 --> 02:57:29,730
of SARS. Only for Middle
Easterners which is pretty much

3016
02:57:29,760 --> 02:57:33,450
I guess the same thing as what
sounds like yeah, it's just what

3017
02:57:33,450 --> 02:57:36,510
200 People are dead. Okay, big
deal. SARS had the same thing

3018
02:57:36,600 --> 02:57:40,110
and never panned out. Right. So
I don't know what that is.

3019
02:57:40,110 --> 02:57:46,020
Exactly. I don't have my much.
Oh, yes. I did want to say that.

3020
02:57:46,920 --> 02:57:51,510
You thought that Bitcoin was the
beanie babies of the financial

3021
02:57:51,510 --> 02:57:55,230
crisis or the financial industry
of no of this cycle. This cycle,

3022
02:57:55,260 --> 02:58:01,200
right? Yeah. So now that Halsey
Miner is, is starting a Bitcoin

3023
02:58:01,200 --> 02:58:05,580
company Halsey Don't you think
that means that basically the

3024
02:58:05,610 --> 02:58:06,840
the end is near?

3025
02:58:08,250 --> 02:58:09,330
Well, yeah.

3026
02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:12,540
Me too.

3027
02:58:12,600 --> 02:58:15,030
It's like the Bitcoins, the last
refuge.

3028
02:58:16,500 --> 02:58:19,380
And people say like, as being
accepted everywhere. Let me just

3029
02:58:19,380 --> 02:58:23,100
tell you, you're converting
money buying it and you

3030
02:58:23,100 --> 02:58:26,640
converting money selling it. I
don't see how it's so great just

3031
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:32,460
yet. It's not an economy. It's
wampum. It's beads, you know,

3032
02:58:32,610 --> 02:58:35,610
it's like Club Med. you're
converting on the way in, you're

3033
02:58:35,610 --> 02:58:40,650
converting on the way out is
worse than PayPal. But okay.

3034
02:58:41,730 --> 02:58:45,510
They're accepting it in your
pub. I get it. I get it. That's

3035
02:58:45,510 --> 02:58:53,220
fine. Anyway, it's fun. Oh, it's
lots of fun. We will be working

3036
02:58:53,220 --> 02:58:58,170
hard for you once again, and
we'll come back on Sunday. To

3037
02:58:58,170 --> 02:59:00,510
bring you more analysis you
can't get anywhere else. It is

3038
02:59:00,510 --> 02:59:03,870
part of your healthy news diet.
It is not for nothing, the best

3039
02:59:03,870 --> 02:59:06,720
podcast in the universe. And
coming to you from FEMA Region

3040
02:59:06,720 --> 02:59:09,030
six here in the Travis heights
hideout. In the morning,

3041
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:10,260
everybody. I'm Adam curry

3042
02:59:10,289 --> 02:59:13,799
and from Northern Silicon
Valley. I'm plain and simple.

3043
02:59:13,799 --> 02:59:15,359
John C. Dvorak will be back

3044
02:59:15,360 --> 02:59:17,880
on Sunday right here on no
agenda.

3045
02:59:31,980 --> 02:59:37,020
difference at this point does it
make as you know, you know, in

3046
02:59:37,020 --> 02:59:41,190
Germany, you know, the trains
ran on time. Sometimes fascism

3047
02:59:41,190 --> 02:59:44,190
benefits. And by the way, Ben
tells me in Germany, the trains

3048
02:59:44,190 --> 02:59:48,000
never run on time. Well, they
don't. Now that's the point.

3049
02:59:48,030 --> 02:59:51,720
I'm Joe Biden, and thank you for
taking the time to listen. That

3050
02:59:51,720 --> 02:59:51,870
is.

3051
02:59:57,330 --> 03:00:00,840
borah.org/a In a