1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,150 wish to kill him after the election. Oh, it's the vote. 2 00:00:03,420 --> 00:00:05,670 Adam curry John C. Dvorak. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,570 Sunday March 23 2014. It's time for your gizmo nation media 4 00:00:09,570 --> 00:00:12,090 assassination episode 602. 5 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:14,010 This is no agenda 6 00:00:15,630 --> 00:00:19,860 calling CQ on 12 metres which is wide open and femur region six 7 00:00:19,860 --> 00:00:22,380 chemo, Fox five sharing the Movember in the morning, 8 00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:23,820 everybody. I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:27,240 and from Northern Silicon Valley where I am reading the tweets of 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,970 Thomas Edison. I'm John C. Dvorak. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,820 Really what is what does Tom have to say? 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,260 I failed my way to success. 13 00:00:41,580 --> 00:00:48,120 Okay. All righty then. Alrighty. Now get everything else set 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,270 here. Well, there we are. John Claude, another show ready to 15 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:57,510 go. And you know, I'm so happy to see what happened in Turkey. 16 00:00:59,910 --> 00:01:02,070 I actually have a background on that. 17 00:01:02,099 --> 00:01:04,259 No, let me play your background or clip and I'll tell you why. 18 00:01:04,259 --> 00:01:07,229 I'm so happy. Oh, yes, I see it here. I had a background or two 19 00:01:07,229 --> 00:01:10,409 but will will play yours many Twitter users in Turkey 20 00:01:10,410 --> 00:01:14,700 logging on to the social media website got this message. It 21 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:18,720 reads the protection measure has been taking for this website. 22 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:24,420 The state's telecommunications regulator T IB says its decision 23 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:28,200 was based on four court orders against Twitter. The government 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,040 says Twitter has ignored previous court orders to remove 25 00:01:32,070 --> 00:01:36,210 some web links. The decision came just hours after Prime 26 00:01:36,210 --> 00:01:40,560 Minister Rajapaksa Erdogan warned to wipe out the social 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,050 media websites wiping out 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,010 or next. Can you imagine there are international conspiracies? 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Twitter, Twitter, we have a quote order. Now. 30 00:01:51,030 --> 00:01:55,140 This This was a common theme, where in America we would say 31 00:01:55,140 --> 00:02:00,000 Twitter Schmitter. or Twitter. In Turkey, you say Twitter 32 00:02:00,030 --> 00:02:03,840 winter? I guess? Yeah, I found that to be quite interesting. We 33 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,290 will wipe out all of these international community can say 34 00:02:07,290 --> 00:02:11,640 this can say that I don't care at all. Everyone was powerful 35 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:12,780 the Republic of Tokyo. 36 00:02:13,950 --> 00:02:17,370 The deputy prime minister says the move was necessary. 37 00:02:18,270 --> 00:02:21,060 We took this decision as a last resort. These are not good 38 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:24,570 things. But if laws are violated by breaching private life, at 39 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:26,100 that point, we have to do something and 40 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:30,810 then some people are still able to log on to Twitter, including 41 00:02:30,810 --> 00:02:34,860 President of the lagoon. And some of his tweets, we wrote, 42 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:39,420 only individual Internet pages should be blocked, if a court 43 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:44,100 ruled that an individual's privacy had been violated. I 44 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:48,420 hope the current block would not last long. But that is not going 45 00:02:48,420 --> 00:02:49,440 well with many here. 46 00:02:49,739 --> 00:02:53,129 Definitely not the solution. Because that makes people more 47 00:02:53,129 --> 00:02:59,459 angry, more politically active. So I think it's not a very, it's 48 00:02:59,459 --> 00:03:01,019 not a very smart 49 00:03:01,110 --> 00:03:04,140 reaction. This is this was very interesting to me for a number 50 00:03:04,140 --> 00:03:07,470 of reasons. One, of course, we've been tracking the auto 51 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:10,830 mania, as we call it here on the no agenda show for several 52 00:03:10,830 --> 00:03:16,620 months now. But also, the way this band this so called ban or 53 00:03:16,620 --> 00:03:21,330 block was instituted was done by DNS, the Domain Name Service, 54 00:03:21,330 --> 00:03:24,330 which some people understood and a lot of people didn't 55 00:03:24,330 --> 00:03:27,390 understand. And there's some I would 56 00:03:27,390 --> 00:03:30,240 you know, if you think about it, why would anybody care or care 57 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,680 to understand? Well, no, I mean, you me? Yeah. People don't 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,820 listen to the show, probably. 59 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:39,690 Well, what's interesting is that throughout Istanbul and other 60 00:03:39,690 --> 00:03:45,840 places in Turkey, graffiti was being spray painted with the 61 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:50,430 different DNS IP address to use. Yeah, mostly the Google one. 62 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:54,270 That is the part that bothers me the most. And I've seen it in 63 00:03:54,270 --> 00:03:57,570 the chat room right now people saying, Oh, you did gotta do 8.8 64 00:03:57,570 --> 00:04:01,800 dot A dot eight, this is very, very bad. Yeah, it bothered me 65 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,250 to this. So for those who haven't been following along 66 00:04:05,250 --> 00:04:09,540 with this conversation, I have been advocating for using the 67 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:13,770 open Nick project, which is a different type of it's a it's a 68 00:04:13,890 --> 00:04:18,300 DNS layer that replicates what is out there, but cannot be 69 00:04:18,330 --> 00:04:23,220 hijacked by any government. You could even run your own DNS on 70 00:04:23,220 --> 00:04:26,670 your laptop. If you think about it. It's really not all that 71 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:31,560 hard. It's but you know, for the for the typical user. Yeah. And 72 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,470 a lot and it's interesting, John, because this report that 73 00:04:34,470 --> 00:04:39,780 you had really parented this other group that, that all of a 74 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:44,130 sudden is in the news. Let me see the name of this group is 75 00:04:45,090 --> 00:04:52,050 the one a second. What is this? What it'll be announcing this? 76 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,130 This is from the BBC. And this is one of these NGOs that all of 77 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:59,100 a sudden crops up and there's this really well, you'll hear 78 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:02,910 this this woman Who's speaking? I believe she's from Turkey, 79 00:05:02,910 --> 00:05:07,200 which she is certainly is the the Turkish authority. And she's 80 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,060 very glib, very, very glib about all this and stupid turkey. 81 00:05:12,330 --> 00:05:15,990 Because of course, we know that many countries certainly the 82 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:18,570 United States, US nongovernmental organisations 83 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,070 and a social media networks like Twitter and Facebook to start to 84 00:05:23,070 --> 00:05:26,070 crap and stir stuff up. And this is definitely what happened in 85 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:26,610 Egypt. 86 00:05:26,940 --> 00:05:29,460 Today Turkish users of Twitter, including the country's 87 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:32,730 president flouting government ban on the social network. 88 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,730 Twitter has been blocked in Turkey since Thursday evening, 89 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:38,790 shortly after the Prime Minister threatened to eradicate the 90 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:42,150 platform, following critical tweets about a major corruption 91 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:45,540 scandal. For more I spoke with Emily Parker, a digital 92 00:05:45,540 --> 00:05:49,230 diplomacy advisor at the New America Foundation, New America 93 00:05:49,230 --> 00:05:54,720 Foundation, the digital diplomacy advisor. This is this 94 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,430 is not a good outfit. 95 00:05:57,150 --> 00:06:01,140 Here we go again with the well I don't know what they categorise 96 00:06:01,140 --> 00:06:04,560 as an NGO but probably Oh, yeah, no, it's an NGO I looked at as 97 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,900 like the bane of our existence. 98 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:10,230 What was the name again? I'm looking for it in the show 99 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:10,770 notes. I 100 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:12,000 know Arca foundation. Yeah, 101 00:06:12,030 --> 00:06:15,660 look at them. You should look them up. It's pretty funny. A 102 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:21,450 New America Foundation, you know you you'll see the board, you'll 103 00:06:21,450 --> 00:06:23,430 recognise people will play the rest of this clip. While we're 104 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:24,900 looking that up. Emily has this 105 00:06:24,930 --> 00:06:29,010 attempt by Turkey's government to block Twitter been an own 106 00:06:29,010 --> 00:06:29,580 goal. 107 00:06:30,780 --> 00:06:35,520 And own go? Here you go our funding of this New America 108 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,150 Foundation in the million dollar plus category, the Bill and 109 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:42,540 Melinda Gates Foundation, Eric and Wendy Schmidt, and the US 110 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:46,830 Department of State, Hello people. This is this is a shill 111 00:06:46,830 --> 00:06:50,790 for the United States Government pretending to be someone on the 112 00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:52,830 scene with information. It seems 113 00:06:52,830 --> 00:06:56,940 to have completely backfired up to now. In fact, after the 114 00:06:56,940 --> 00:07:01,410 Twitter ban, there was a huge increase of usage of Twitter, 115 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:01,680 you she 116 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:08,130 could barely contain her glee. And this is very significant 117 00:07:08,130 --> 00:07:09,660 that this is paid for do that you 118 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:10,530 work on that last, 119 00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:14,400 this woman is paid for indirectly by the US Department 120 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,550 of State or directly by the US Department of State. Cool, I 121 00:07:17,550 --> 00:07:21,180 would like to point out gave a green card to the main opponent 122 00:07:21,210 --> 00:07:24,270 of the Prime Minister Erdogan, that will be for tulip for Tula 123 00:07:24,270 --> 00:07:29,400 Gulen, who was sitting in a compound in Pennsylvania, and is 124 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:33,240 largely responsible for a lot of this pushback, including his 125 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,490 support of the President of Turkey, good speech 126 00:07:35,490 --> 00:07:38,250 from people in Turkey. So people found ways to get around the 127 00:07:38,250 --> 00:07:39,990 blockage as they do all over the world. 128 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:42,660 Now listen to how she says you can get around the block is not 129 00:07:42,690 --> 00:07:44,970 at no point that she mentioned DNS 130 00:07:45,030 --> 00:07:47,730 in Turkey's case, for example, people used Virtual Private 131 00:07:47,730 --> 00:07:50,820 Networks, which is one way to get around a blocked site like 132 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:54,660 Twitter, or I heard that they were using Tor or Twitter, the 133 00:07:54,660 --> 00:07:56,280 company was actually sending 134 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,510 this is interesting. Here is the Department of State shill or 135 00:08:00,510 --> 00:08:04,200 saying use Tor. How does that work? I don't know if you can 136 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,920 use Twitter through Tor. Maybe it may work perfectly. But she's 137 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,180 not giving the obvious solution which is changing your DNS IP 138 00:08:12,180 --> 00:08:16,800 address and not to Google. But that is the obvious solution. 139 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,970 And she's not she's not handing that one out, which I find Well, 140 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,590 obviously suspicious 141 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:25,830 messages to people in Turkey to instruct them how to use Twitter 142 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:27,750 by their mobile phones. 143 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,560 Well, even Turkey's president is using Twitter despite his own 144 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,650 government's ban, doesn't this show how ineffective it is? 145 00:08:35,549 --> 00:08:37,979 It absolutely shows how ineffective it is there were 146 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:41,699 there was evidence of people in the government using Twitter and 147 00:08:41,699 --> 00:08:43,979 the whole thing has actually become a bit of a farce. 148 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:47,700 Now, the White House and the State Department criticise this 149 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:50,160 encroachment on free speech today, but do you think Turkey 150 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:50,880 cares at all? 151 00:08:52,110 --> 00:08:54,570 No, I don't think they care. And I don't think they've been very 152 00:08:54,570 --> 00:08:56,820 strategic, or they wouldn't have done this in the first place. 153 00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:59,940 But I think what they're going to find as other autocratic 154 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:02,280 governments have found is that this just doesn't work. And in 155 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,760 fact, it seems that it people are now flying Twitter and 156 00:09:06,150 --> 00:09:08,460 getting angrier and one of other governments have found is that 157 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:11,310 we're just getting angry when you block social media. It makes 158 00:09:11,310 --> 00:09:13,650 people even more inclined to come to the streets, which is 159 00:09:13,650 --> 00:09:15,840 exactly what the Turkish government does not want 160 00:09:15,870 --> 00:09:18,510 and it's exactly what the US State Department does want 161 00:09:18,510 --> 00:09:20,430 apparently that's why you're flaunting it. 162 00:09:21,540 --> 00:09:24,900 Has an autocratic government ever successfully ban Twitter? 163 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:27,840 No, I mean not completely they've definitely successfully 164 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:31,140 blocked it but they've not been able to block it completely. So 165 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:33,540 yes, it hasn't been successful. Take China for example. 166 00:09:35,610 --> 00:09:41,100 What I find it sad that the BBC The Well of course it is the 167 00:09:41,130 --> 00:09:45,660 government mouthpiece of the Gitmo nation east that they 168 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:48,900 don't actually bring an expert in who explains how it works and 169 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:52,620 how you can and Oh, my goodness, they had people literally spray 170 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:58,440 painting alternative DNS IP addresses in graffiti, and 171 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,440 passing out flyers How to Change As your DNS that is what really 172 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,630 went on, but of course, the State Department she'll hear 173 00:10:03,630 --> 00:10:07,890 from the New America Foundation will not cop to that with your 174 00:10:07,890 --> 00:10:14,040 naval funded Tor Network funded by the US government. All right, 175 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,350 yeah, let's use that. Hmm. 176 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,270 I can't agree more. Yeah, I know. I know. It's like, you 177 00:10:24,270 --> 00:10:27,930 know, the whole thing is, you know, I got disappointed when I 178 00:10:27,930 --> 00:10:33,720 was listening to China turn on the Colbert Report. And he had 179 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:34,620 Ronan on. 180 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,470 Oh, this is Sinatra's kid. 181 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,830 Yeah. So nitrous kit. And when they didn't, I don't have it on 182 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:42,420 this clip. But when he brought sorry, 183 00:10:42,420 --> 00:10:44,490 the the winner of a Cronkite Award. 184 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,900 Yeah. They brought him out to the tune of flying me to the 185 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:53,160 moon or something. That's fun. That's funny. It was fun. I like 186 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,830 that. Yeah. There was no mention of it during the interview, but 187 00:10:55,830 --> 00:11:00,690 I could tell that cold bear didn't really like this guy. And 188 00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:03,750 he, but he dropped a couple of interesting bombs. I didn't know 189 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:07,050 that, that Ronan? They were talking about Ronan Farrow, the 190 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,400 sous vide wunderkind at MSNBC who's winning all these awards 191 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:17,700 for being on the air three days. And it's just worth listening to 192 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:20,760 because there's a couple of things in there that are unique 193 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:21,300 volcat? 194 00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:25,860 I bet it is. But speak for all young people. Don't you think 195 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:27,930 that if there's really going to be a revolution in this country, 196 00:11:27,930 --> 00:11:30,420 we can actually just be tweeting and blogging and phoning people 197 00:11:30,420 --> 00:11:32,100 actually have to get to the streets and throw bricks through 198 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:32,850 windows set 199 00:11:32,850 --> 00:11:34,830 theory seriously, actually, do what? 200 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:37,470 I'm serious. It doesn't have to be some shattering of the 201 00:11:37,470 --> 00:11:41,250 system. And I hope my side wins as opposed to your side. Doesn't 202 00:11:41,250 --> 00:11:43,470 there have to be some sort of shattered the Tea Party came 203 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:45,750 close, but they didn't get violent as much as they were 204 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:47,850 accused of it? Don't you think there has to be some sort of 205 00:11:47,850 --> 00:11:50,190 violent revolution in America for anything to get better? 206 00:11:50,430 --> 00:11:53,070 Sure. Just blood in the streets. That's that's what they're 207 00:11:53,070 --> 00:11:53,880 advocating for? No, 208 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,060 but but don't you think that is talking about having a different 209 00:11:57,060 --> 00:11:57,720 kind of television show 210 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,750 make a very important point. Look, I was in charge of Arab 211 00:12:00,750 --> 00:12:02,640 Spring policy when I ran this office. 212 00:12:04,380 --> 00:12:08,970 What Colbert picks up on this, I hope for the Arab throne, I 213 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:13,020 guess I what? Yeah, 214 00:12:13,290 --> 00:12:16,860 I was No, Pharaoh works in the State Department, didn't he? 215 00:12:17,010 --> 00:12:20,220 Yeah, yeah. Okay. He said he was in charge of the Arab Spring 216 00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:22,950 policy. It's all coming together now listener 217 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:24,480 in America for anything to get better. 218 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:27,480 Churches, blood in the streets. That's that's what my mother had 219 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:27,540 to 220 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:30,750 get it for. No, but but don't you think that is talking about 221 00:12:30,780 --> 00:12:32,220 having a different kind of television show make a 222 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:35,460 very important point. Look, I was in charge of Arab Spring 223 00:12:35,460 --> 00:12:42,330 policy when I ran this office for the Arab throne. I ran you 224 00:12:42,870 --> 00:12:45,180 know, I ran the Office of Global Youth Issues at the State 225 00:12:45,180 --> 00:12:47,940 Department, which was our sort of youth revolution, right Think 226 00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:51,570 Tank and policy, fomenting shop. I'm not saying everything we did 227 00:12:51,570 --> 00:12:51,780 work. 228 00:12:53,370 --> 00:12:58,440 But I'm still I can't google fast enough Office of Global 229 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,940 Youth Policy. 230 00:13:00,090 --> 00:13:03,480 Yeah. And he says, he says, You he uses the word this the 231 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,480 officer of fomenting. Did you catch that? 232 00:13:06,930 --> 00:13:10,950 As opposed to for mounting? fomenting? fomenting fomenting 233 00:13:10,950 --> 00:13:14,280 is stirring shit up, isn't it? Yeah. Really? Let me hear that 234 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,810 again. Wow. Wow, I had forgotten about this kid's background. And 235 00:13:18,810 --> 00:13:22,200 now I understand why MSNBC is, you know, he's creaming all over 236 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,320 him. It's obvious now. Like, Oh, finally, we got someone from the 237 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,490 home office in policy, fomenting shop, policy, fermenting shop, 238 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:34,080 policy, fomenting shop. This guy is a spook 239 00:13:34,110 --> 00:13:36,840 is at the State Farm, which was our sort of youth revolution, 240 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,270 right Think Tank and policy, fomenting shop. 241 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:44,070 Wow, wow, nice one. John is too early to give you a clip of the 242 00:13:44,070 --> 00:13:44,490 day. But 243 00:13:45,450 --> 00:13:48,180 I'm not saying everything we did worked. But we created it partly 244 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:49,080 because there was this. 245 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,200 Look, I mean, there's Egypt, which we failed that but we 246 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,280 tried free going 247 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,790 around social media as a panacea and Twitter will save us. And in 248 00:13:56,790 --> 00:13:59,250 some way, Twitter and Facebook will obscure the fact that 249 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:02,130 sometimes we as a country back to the bad guys, and sometimes 250 00:14:02,130 --> 00:14:05,010 people don't like us for that. And there's a long history of 251 00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:07,500 that and a long history of being out of touch with my generation. 252 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:09,330 I think I feel it. I think Americans around the country 253 00:14:09,330 --> 00:14:12,090 feel it. I think people around the world feel it. You are 254 00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:15,210 absolutely right, that no amount of blogging or tweeting will 255 00:14:15,210 --> 00:14:18,570 supplant real action in the real world. And it can't also cover 256 00:14:18,570 --> 00:14:22,170 up a lack of real policy action that caters to generation. So I 257 00:14:22,170 --> 00:14:24,420 think that it these are all important tools to communicate, 258 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:27,000 but they are not a replacement. Now you as I said, 259 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:28,620 are you finished high school? Oh, yes. 260 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,130 Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Very good. Finish. 261 00:14:32,340 --> 00:14:35,670 College. 15. Went off to law school at 16. You got a TV show. 262 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:39,210 26. When is your midlife crisis? 263 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,160 The 30 is the golden 30 Is my retirement era. Well rolling. 264 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,550 Thank you 265 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:48,690 so much for joining me. Right. So okay, so as a spook he 266 00:14:48,690 --> 00:14:54,540 graduated high school at 11. graduated college from what was 267 00:14:54,540 --> 00:14:55,320 it? 15. 268 00:14:55,530 --> 00:14:57,540 Is that really true? Is that really is that really true? 269 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:58,560 Yeah. graduate. 270 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,680 I know people that have This sort of thing happened. There 271 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,890 are prime candidates for an intelligence agent and he went 272 00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:08,250 he's a Yalie. He went to Yale Law School. Hello, Skull and 273 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:10,740 Bones. Yeah. But let's use 274 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:13,500 an agency that these kids had to do this. And there's been a 275 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:14,160 number of 276 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,290 them and I knew one is MK Ultra. 277 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,780 Well, there's definitely spotted early because they there was 278 00:15:21,780 --> 00:15:23,970 enticed, they can't be socialised properly, because 279 00:15:23,970 --> 00:15:27,000 they're, they're not with their peers. So they're just kind of 280 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,420 the stupid kid that happens to be smart and he's in your grade 281 00:15:30,420 --> 00:15:35,970 and you're 18 and he's 11. He's the chosen one, John, and chosen 282 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,510 he is listening to this Bantay Christ's rally in 2001. 283 00:15:39,510 --> 00:15:42,450 In 2009, he was UNICEF spokesperson for youth with 284 00:15:42,450 --> 00:15:47,490 youth advocate for children in Darfur region. Okay, that's part 285 00:15:47,490 --> 00:15:52,470 with Angelina Jolie and other MK Ultra. See, during this time, he 286 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:55,620 made joint trips to the Darfur region of Sudan with his mother 287 00:15:55,620 --> 00:15:58,590 and of course Mia, who we know is there's only one letter 288 00:15:58,590 --> 00:16:02,250 difference between Nia and Sia. She's the UNICEF Goodwill 289 00:16:02,250 --> 00:16:08,370 Ambassador, hi Nam sorry. And then he was part of the Genocide 290 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:14,100 Intervention network of Swarthmore Siddhartha here 291 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:16,980 during his time at Yale Law School. He interned at the law 292 00:16:16,980 --> 00:16:21,270 firm Davis, Polk and Wardell. Is that you? 293 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,850 I'm sorry, what is that? It's my mic. Stand, squeeze. Okay. All 294 00:16:26,850 --> 00:16:27,090 right. In 295 00:16:27,090 --> 00:16:30,600 2009, he George Ellis looked him up. But check it out. In 2009, 296 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,690 he joined the Obama administration, with his 297 00:16:33,690 --> 00:16:38,160 appointment as Special Advisor for humanitarian and NGO affairs 298 00:16:39,870 --> 00:16:42,450 at the Office of Special Representative for Afghanistan 299 00:16:42,450 --> 00:16:46,410 and Pakistan, part of a team of officials recruited by Richard 300 00:16:46,410 --> 00:16:53,400 Holbrook. Now you go wow, this kid is a no. Oh, wow. 2011 301 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:57,000 appointed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Special Advisor 302 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,390 for Global Youth ish youth issues, Director of State 303 00:17:00,390 --> 00:17:05,910 Department's Office of Global Youth Issues. And what else did 304 00:17:05,910 --> 00:17:10,470 he do? co chair the working group with senior USA ID staff 305 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:17,400 member David Bart Wow. I had no idea that he had so much history 306 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,520 I didn't know about the graduated at 15. That's insane. 307 00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:26,910 But how college Well, yeah, but why does he come across as so 308 00:17:26,910 --> 00:17:31,500 dumb? On the show, 309 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:34,740 he's actually comes across and if you notice him if you listen 310 00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:38,790 to this thing closely, he has picked up Rachel Madhouse 311 00:17:38,790 --> 00:17:43,200 cadence. That's Zelnick, like guys coincidentally, of course 312 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:47,370 Woody Allen raised him a zealot like guys who's a kind of a 313 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,470 he's a Manchurian Candidate is what he is 314 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:54,840 Yeah, but he's you know, he becomes what he you know, he's 315 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,130 now he's a talk show host so he's got the the mat out of the 316 00:17:59,130 --> 00:18:03,420 talk show on MSNBC so she's got the Mad Cow cadence and if you 317 00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:07,950 read a lot of these these self help books by guys like Tony 318 00:18:07,950 --> 00:18:08,940 Robbins Ron 319 00:18:08,970 --> 00:18:12,060 via which I've read a lot of actually yes, really Tony 320 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:17,190 Robbins Yeah, I got all his power talk tapes Well, he's you 321 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:20,400 have the power to change at this very moment. John, all you have 322 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,210 to do is just think just if you're hurt if you're sad all 323 00:18:24,210 --> 00:18:26,430 you have to do is think I'm not gonna be that anymore and you're 324 00:18:26,430 --> 00:18:28,620 not you have the power it is within you. 325 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:32,550 Yeah, no, I read a lot of that bullshit from that guy too. 326 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:33,750 I liked it. I like it. I 327 00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:36,660 it's it's entertaining. But one of the things he talks about his 328 00:18:36,690 --> 00:18:38,550 essentially his basic thesis 329 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:41,130 This is why you're still cranky. I'm happy man. 330 00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:46,800 One of the things he wants you to do is be a phoney No, yes. 331 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,440 And I'll tell you how where that comes from what part of this his 332 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,170 thesis that exists right at the beginning because if you're with 333 00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:57,450 somebody and you go with their pace act like them wear the same 334 00:18:57,450 --> 00:19:01,620 colour shirt they have be no no no no that's not true. He's that 335 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:04,290 I can get you quote I can get your quote and page 336 00:19:04,290 --> 00:19:07,200 on Can I just say one thing I believe you're talking about if 337 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,220 you want you that's replicating someone successful and be like 338 00:19:11,220 --> 00:19:14,670 them not if you're with somebody so you're right that's whatever 339 00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:16,980 you say I don't care whether you like think Tony Robbins is the 340 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:18,780 greatest thing since sliced bread or no no but 341 00:19:18,780 --> 00:19:20,910 I'm agreeing with you I'm just correcting you on one minor 342 00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:23,940 thing it's not if you want to be with someone if you want to be 343 00:19:23,940 --> 00:19:26,160 successful like someone and you're right that's what Ronan 344 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,300 Farrow is doing with with Matt Oh, yeah, I'm agreeing with you. 345 00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:33,690 And he anyway, so Ron, and maybe have been this way since he was 346 00:19:33,690 --> 00:19:38,970 a little kid because if you're 11 years old and a senior in 347 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:41,970 high school, number of things, you're not getting laid. 348 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:46,590 Everybody thinks you're an idiot Toria jerk so don't like you so 349 00:19:46,590 --> 00:19:48,570 far. I'm batting 1000 on me. Yes. 350 00:19:49,290 --> 00:19:52,320 All and you weren't 11 351 00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:54,900 Then when it started then 352 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:59,820 is when it's all these things are just negative. And so you 353 00:19:59,820 --> 00:20:05,940 would adaptive the policy of trying to mimic those around you 354 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:09,480 as best you can. And you would be you probably if you started 355 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,960 that early age because you had to to survive. I think it would 356 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:19,230 turn you into a very political person. And now the problem he, 357 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:22,710 I think that he has, and I don't want to it's not because I'm 358 00:20:22,770 --> 00:20:26,400 doing to do any gay baiting is that because I think he was he's 359 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,630 obviously gay. And he was at a recent lesbian gay. 360 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,810 Yeah, and they had this this man on 361 00:20:33,810 --> 00:20:37,020 an opening so he's not going to discuss his sexual preferences. 362 00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:43,560 You don't have to. And this I think is probably harmful to his 363 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:48,810 potential as a politician. Being gay, although there are gay 364 00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:54,540 politicians, there's no doubt about it. But he is he's a very 365 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:57,240 we have to watch this guy. Well, so when I first heard about it, 366 00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:02,190 I think you pointed out to me that there was a it was the gay 367 00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:07,200 broadcasters ball or something. Yeah. And and then Don Lemon did 368 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,880 a selfie. And this is now the big thing, the celebrity selfie 369 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:18,510 and we all cram in. And Ronan was there. I am thinking that he 370 00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:22,800 is the perfect politician for the multicultural future. And 371 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,510 because this is it is all LGBTQ q ia P. That's exactly what we 372 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:30,270 want in our future as for politicians, because you know, 373 00:21:30,270 --> 00:21:33,510 you can't It's like being black or a woman you can't attack 374 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:36,990 someone for anything because you know, oh, clearly you hate gays. 375 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,800 I think he might be faster on this. 376 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,090 I am more of a traditional track. But in a modern track, 377 00:21:45,090 --> 00:21:48,150 you might be absolutely correct. And he may be the missing link. 378 00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:52,050 And he may be a Manchurian Candidate, by the way is not a 379 00:21:52,050 --> 00:21:57,420 bad analogy. But he is definitely somebody to keep an 380 00:21:57,420 --> 00:21:57,930 eye on. 381 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,290 There isn't that you can't find a single fault with a kid. I 382 00:22:01,290 --> 00:22:05,820 mean, he's perfect. And you could you be any more American 383 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:09,660 than Frank Sinatra is a legitimate child. It's got 384 00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:13,350 everything in it. It's you know, you've got to an Oscar winning 385 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:14,430 mom. 386 00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:18,600 This fantastic unicycle mom's 387 00:22:18,750 --> 00:22:22,740 psycho Oscar winning mom. Your franksen not I mean, that's, 388 00:22:22,770 --> 00:22:27,660 you've got the mob. You've got show business. You've got Swan 389 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:31,800 swagger and Swathi and all those groovy things. Hell, she can 390 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,490 sing. You got Jersey blood in you. Hello. What more do you 391 00:22:35,490 --> 00:22:40,110 want? This is great. And your gay president written all over 392 00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:40,290 it. 393 00:22:41,010 --> 00:22:43,470 First gay president wants you the second Well, yeah, 394 00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:48,060 well, let me think 2013 Think about a 20 key could run is it 395 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:50,550 2024? That could be that could be his year. 396 00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:54,150 Well, here's what's going to happen. Hillary's gonna win. 397 00:22:54,150 --> 00:22:58,440 2016 Yeah, that's all hell breaks loose and the Democrats 398 00:22:58,470 --> 00:23:00,750 get a hold of themselves and find somebody else to beat 399 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:04,260 whoever the Republicans take and run. Good luck with that. This 400 00:23:04,260 --> 00:23:08,190 guy goes, actually whether it's a Democrat or Republican, this 401 00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:10,620 guy's going back to the White House. He hasn't 402 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:13,470 but the path would be he has to do a senator ship somewhere. 403 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:16,170 Yes, they maybe can get Massachusetts How about that 404 00:23:16,170 --> 00:23:18,090 then we own that somehow. Don't the Democrats. 405 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:21,720 This is a shoo in. You know, you can give me like Warren could be 406 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,890 pulled out of that job. 407 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:27,840 The the Native American Indian, American, but let's pull the 408 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Native American. That's so that's so 2014 Get a gay guy in 409 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,950 there. That's perfect. 410 00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:38,820 Well, he's never again, I I would put this in the book. I 411 00:23:38,820 --> 00:23:41,010 don't think he's ever going to come out in our lifetime. 412 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:46,680 I don't think it matters. I 413 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,150 just don't I don't think it matters either. But I don't 414 00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:51,180 think he's going to he's going to in fact, I think he may be 415 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:52,470 asexual for all we know. 416 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:56,700 Well, that's part that's part of the AAP in the LGBTQ que IAP 417 00:23:56,730 --> 00:24:00,510 it's a sexual is one of the letters so yeah. And that will 418 00:24:00,510 --> 00:24:03,840 be fine. He could be I could come on as all kinds of maybe 419 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,800 he's bisexual. 420 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:08,460 I'm gonna have to start watching his show. What the Colbert 421 00:24:08,460 --> 00:24:11,910 thing? No, not called bear. The ronin show and 422 00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:17,970 I it's unwatchable. Oh, no, because what happened? He's He's 423 00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:23,340 so used to taking direction that he has no real input. So he he 424 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:26,190 you know, he's a machine. And that's that. I think that if 425 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:28,050 anything, that's the thing that bothers me when I watch him. You 426 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:31,890 see he's robotic. And he's taking directions. Very good. 427 00:24:31,890 --> 00:24:34,650 He's very good with IFP and he's very good with talking talking 428 00:24:34,650 --> 00:24:39,840 to people. But the topics are MSNBC stuff. He's like, okay, 429 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,740 no, no, it's nothing like me. He should go to CNN where where I 430 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:45,660 heard I picked up this beautiful Diddy 431 00:24:46,290 --> 00:24:48,930 or chilling new theory is emerging as investigators 432 00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:52,620 searched the southern Indian Ocean right now. Could deadly 433 00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:55,620 battery fumes or an oxygen shortage have actually turned 434 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:59,280 flight 370 into what some are calling a zombie plague. 435 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,750 correspondent Suzanne Malveaux is here in the situation. What 436 00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:05,340 are you finding out? What are you finding that sounds 437 00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:08,580 very ominous here. But this is a theory that could explain why 438 00:25:08,580 --> 00:25:12,870 and how this plane went down it is called the zombie plane 439 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:15,420 scenario and it has happened before 440 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,950 the zombie plane scenario and they call me a conspiracy 441 00:25:19,950 --> 00:25:20,550 theorist. 442 00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:23,070 And really it has happened before. 443 00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:27,930 Well, they're talking about the golfer. Remember his goal his 444 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,520 his Gulf Stream they they read the decomp some the either 445 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,580 depressurize or something they all died, then the plane just 446 00:25:35,610 --> 00:25:40,020 ran out of gas. So let me see Ronan, Farrow's and MSNBC show 447 00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:43,410 off to a slow start, let's look at the ratings. And MSNBC 448 00:25:43,410 --> 00:25:46,440 already has no ratings, because clearly, they're not talking 449 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,500 about the zombie plane. I mean, that's if you want ratings, you 450 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:54,120 do that. And you notice that now. So now we're into day 16. 451 00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:58,530 And this is great. Um, now the news networks are doing news 452 00:25:58,530 --> 00:26:03,180 stories about them doing the news stories of the plane. And 453 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:05,910 how well you know, we're really it's too much. You're just too 454 00:26:05,910 --> 00:26:08,610 much. And we'll have an update on the plane right after this. 455 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,230 Yeah, Pharaoh are they become self absorbed? MSNBC hosted 456 00:26:13,230 --> 00:26:18,480 over here it is, according to Bob 34,000 in the 18 to 49 demo. 457 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:26,460 All right, that is clearly see 106 Stan and oh, yeah, now the 458 00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:28,920 demo if you don't even you're not even cracking 100,000 In the 459 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,500 demo. This is not good. And he replaced Andrea Mitchell, the 460 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:39,540 elitist and she had almost three times as much in the same same 461 00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:40,260 time got some 462 00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:45,210 worldly knowledge. I mean, this kid is a kid. I'm telling you I 463 00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:48,540 would not a kid graduated from high school at the age of love 464 00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:52,620 of 11 is not the kind of kid you're gonna go up to and ask 465 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:58,230 him about advice for you. It's a real I think he's got all kinds 466 00:26:58,230 --> 00:27:00,540 of I think there's this is like a prodigy those guys who are 467 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:03,570 like these, you know, these piano players who are ridiculous 468 00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:04,680 when they're tore, 469 00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:06,720 like Jerry Lewis, 470 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,190 Jerry Lewis Jerry Lee Lewis. Jerry Lee Lewis. 471 00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:17,370 Nevermind he's interesting face though. He's clearly got 472 00:27:17,370 --> 00:27:20,040 Sinatra's eyes and kind of Sinatra's mouth. Actually, 473 00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:23,610 he's got Sinatra's look, and he's got great blue eyes. 474 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,290 He does. He does. Right? Well, no. Well, you're right. We have 475 00:27:28,290 --> 00:27:31,320 to keep an eye on this guy. Because you know, before you 476 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,330 know it, he will be hero to my friends. Oh, yeah. It's another 477 00:27:36,330 --> 00:27:42,960 instalment. Oh. That's right, everybody. We had and I thought 478 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,650 it was going to be the last dinner with robots. Oh, no, no, 479 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,250 we have one more before the professor and Marianne Lee for 480 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:54,120 caliphate. By the way, you know, I was of course we discussed 481 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,910 whether they might not ever want to hang out with me ever again 482 00:27:56,910 --> 00:28:01,350 after the last time we discussed them on the show. And one of 483 00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:02,370 them was offended. 484 00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:06,210 Oh, well, who was offended and why 485 00:28:06,690 --> 00:28:10,080 the professor's wife was offended because I had said the 486 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,440 professor and Marianne and she felt that she was at least as 487 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,340 hot as ginger. 488 00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:19,800 What I had Mary You're talking about the Gilligan's Island. 489 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,130 I had called her the professor at them the professor and Mary. 490 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,670 Ariane is funny but she was she says she's like I was offended 491 00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:31,170 by that. So what do you mean? Well, I think ginger was hotter. 492 00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:33,270 Okay, Yan was 493 00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:34,950 no slouch. That's what I said she 494 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:40,110 was the smart one. Yeah, Ginger was totally doable, but dumb. 495 00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:45,720 And Marianne was the perky one. Anyway, she did that. Of all the 496 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,460 things we talked about. That was that was the big offending move 497 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:56,070 I made apparently. Very interesting though, John very 498 00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:00,180 I've learned yet a lot about that. Just for those of you who 499 00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:03,690 are new to the programme. These are my friends. These are our 500 00:29:03,690 --> 00:29:08,910 friends Miss Mickey and mine. And we have regular dinners and 501 00:29:08,910 --> 00:29:13,650 awesome do they rotate it's three couples as soon to be two 502 00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:15,840 unless we rotate out to California 503 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,790 if anybody wants to see visual kind of a visual representation 504 00:29:20,790 --> 00:29:23,850 of this go see the Boone well movie the discrete charm of the 505 00:29:23,850 --> 00:29:24,960 bourgeoisie 506 00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:28,320 what is that I'm unfamiliar with that 507 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:32,310 it's very famous movie by Louis Boone well about these people 508 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:35,430 keep having dinner at each other's houses, tiny families 509 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,860 machine gun each other I believe the salad ends. 510 00:29:39,030 --> 00:29:41,130 I thought you're gonna recommend looking at the newsletter where 511 00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:46,560 you had a fantastic photo of an obat 512 00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:50,760 I found the old picture was a true robot 513 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,140 that was really good. So and now for some reason Miss Mickey and 514 00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:57,870 I were half an hour early. This doesn't happen often that Miss 515 00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:02,880 Mickey does some has an entry in correct in her calendar. So we 516 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,760 show up at 635 thinking, you know, we're fashion 517 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,400 seven. There's nothing more annoying to a host than that, 518 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,120 but Well, yes. All right, half hour late. That's even worse. 519 00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:15,360 Right. So so we show up and I see I see the face. I'm like, 520 00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:21,720 Are we early? Say Yeah, like, Oh, now, of course, it's okay. 521 00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:25,200 It's always okay. And it was okay, 522 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,310 because the professor had made a Gantt chart for his cooking 523 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:37,110 which did not take into account any interruption of guests 524 00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:41,580 coming, showing up too early. So things were burning. was going 525 00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:41,850 wrong. 526 00:30:43,050 --> 00:30:44,220 Guys, timing, 527 00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:48,060 totally. He but he said he literally had a Gantt chart with 528 00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:52,140 multiple timer alarms on his iPhone. When to turn stuff. 529 00:30:52,889 --> 00:30:59,519 This is this is really not good. No, it's not. It's not good. No, 530 00:30:59,549 --> 00:31:00,299 it's not good. 531 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,690 Now, there was an additional guest at the table, a criminal 532 00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:11,520 defence lawyer from somewhere near in between Austin and 533 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,930 Texas. It was their friend. And I guess, Austin and where and 534 00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:19,770 Houston. Okay, Austin in Houston, which is, you know, 535 00:31:19,770 --> 00:31:23,970 this kind of no man's land. And he defends criminals, which, 536 00:31:24,210 --> 00:31:26,850 which made the evening quite entertaining, which I will talk 537 00:31:26,850 --> 00:31:29,430 about a little bit later. Um, so, you know, we're kind of 538 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:32,790 having a nice time and you know, we're, we're all chatting in 539 00:31:32,910 --> 00:31:37,740 newborn it was pork belly by the way. It was the rest on the menu 540 00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:41,490 pork belly, which was quite a quite okay. And then there was 541 00:31:41,490 --> 00:31:44,250 the thing that got kind of burned or didn't work out right 542 00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:49,770 was the cauliflower. It was a full cauliflower basted in some 543 00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:54,270 kind of mustard like sauce and then put in the oven. Are you 544 00:31:54,270 --> 00:31:55,980 familiar with this? This dish? 545 00:31:56,550 --> 00:31:58,050 No, but I can imagine it. 546 00:31:59,730 --> 00:32:03,780 And then at a certain point, the artist says, Well, don't we have 547 00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:04,920 things to talk about? 548 00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:08,040 I like oh, she says she's a troublemaker. 549 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:10,170 She's a big troublemaker. 550 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,490 She's trying she's gone for the glass of wine in somebody's 551 00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:18,360 face. Let's let's hope that happens. Yeah, well, 552 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,090 it could have it but she loves it. Well, don't we have 553 00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:23,460 something to talk about? Let's see. Adam, what do you think 554 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:27,090 about the aeroplane? Don't you have some conspiracies? I'm not 555 00:32:27,090 --> 00:32:30,480 kidding this and that's almost the tone of voice. There was a 556 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:30,900 lot of 557 00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:34,200 it's pretty insulting raise. Well, when did she get so 558 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,040 insulting? 559 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,740 Now? She's always kind of been insulting. It's that's okay. 560 00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:41,790 That's who she is. I don't mind what she's an artist. If it's 561 00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:45,990 not about her, which is like most artists are, then we might 562 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:50,850 as well be insulting someone else. Okay. I can't wait to the 563 00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:56,250 next dinner. Is this and yeah, 564 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:59,280 I was surprised I met this woman. Yeah, I thought she was 565 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,340 very pleasant. She is pleasant. This is This has nothing to do 566 00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:05,910 this. I find it weird that she would be so overtly as insulting 567 00:33:05,970 --> 00:33:09,120 that, you know, the professor at one point said he I think he 568 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240 said something like crazy. You know, of course there's no crazy 569 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,540 people present company excluded or something. You know, 570 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,350 basically, yeah, calling me crazy. He literally called me 571 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:24,420 crazy at the dinner. And what what basis was this? Because 572 00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:27,540 they heard the last dinner at the O Bob's report and they need 573 00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:29,460 to get back at me somehow. And this. Oh, I 574 00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:32,370 see what you understand. Let's just make good. Yes, of course. 575 00:33:32,370 --> 00:33:32,520 So, 576 00:33:33,209 --> 00:33:36,539 but I'm cool. I'm calm. I'm totally good with it. In fact, I 577 00:33:36,539 --> 00:33:42,569 love it. This It's like It's like rocket fuel aerial. Joshi 578 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,549 and judging Exactly. And you know, and then they start to 579 00:33:47,549 --> 00:33:51,989 slip up. Alright, I wrote I was writing down notes during the 580 00:33:51,989 --> 00:33:53,219 dinner. I've never done this before. 581 00:33:53,370 --> 00:33:56,730 That is so that is so I 582 00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:58,260 literally went like, Hold on 583 00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:03,600 the tip of the pen and then start writing. Yeah, I licked 584 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,720 the tip. All right. Yeah. Bring a reporter's notebook that way. 585 00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:12,240 Let me put my back here. 586 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,360 Let me put my green visor on. Hold on a second. So there were 587 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,630 a number of it. So the plane and I did my typical thing. I said, 588 00:34:21,630 --> 00:34:24,840 Look, there's no evidence of this thing crashing. So as far 589 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,900 as I'm concerned, it is not crashed. Yeah. And you know, if 590 00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:35,040 you think that the United States Pentagon does not know exactly 591 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,790 where this thing is, then you're foolish. Because I've seen this 592 00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:42,090 systems. They know exactly where this is, and the satellite 593 00:34:42,090 --> 00:34:46,290 images, please. How insulting is that? You know, we can see the 594 00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:49,830 pimple on your nose from space. And we're showing them being 595 00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:53,370 shown some debris with dimensions and it's all this 596 00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:58,170 Google Earth is better than this. So definitely, yeah, but 597 00:34:58,530 --> 00:35:03,960 But what do you think is it going to be uses a bomb so I 598 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,580 quickly steered away from it and actually I went so fast to to 599 00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:14,130 Ukraine. And I kind of got on with that because the here it is 600 00:35:15,810 --> 00:35:23,040 what you're gonna tell me Putin is not a bad guy. I said, Yes. 601 00:35:23,370 --> 00:35:27,840 Not only does he hate gays, he hates dogs. And if you've seen 602 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,640 the Paralympics, he hates cripples. So the this not at 603 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:38,100 this point, they like word, but they don't. Is it possible to 604 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,820 think that maybe there's something behind all of this? 605 00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:46,530 Maybe we are. Maybe there's, you know, people who have done this 606 00:35:46,530 --> 00:35:50,910 before? I don't know. Like, let me see the Neo cons who took us 607 00:35:50,910 --> 00:35:53,370 into Iraq? Do you think maybe and I you know, of course, I'm 608 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,640 giving them the names and giving them the connections? I'm 609 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,900 saying, look, it's Victoria Nudelman. And she's married to 610 00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:04,950 Kagan, Roger Kagan, his brothers, Fred Kagan project for 611 00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:07,800 New American Century. And now that then now that kind of like 612 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,090 sitting back a little bit like, 613 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,480 you listen to the show, 614 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:15,360 they don't listen to the show. They don't listen, they do not 615 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,850 listen to the point, this part of the show. And then they Yeah, 616 00:36:17,850 --> 00:36:20,280 they listen to it. Of course, they listen to me talking about 617 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,600 them, and they tune out. Yeah. And but a couple of fun things 618 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,680 happen. Because in a certain point, I'm like, you know, this 619 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,960 is being run by the State Department. And this is and this 620 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,810 is well set up Hillary set it all up and she's getting ready 621 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,320 to win another thing. They think I'm joking, I had to really 622 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,530 explain to them that, that yes, I hope Hillary wins because 623 00:36:40,530 --> 00:36:43,680 she's the only one uniquely qualified to run the Empire. And 624 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,000 I explained what the Empire is. I said, Yeah, Kerry is just he's 625 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,740 the Yale man. He's in there and he's dumb. You can't say he's 626 00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:55,350 dumb. I said, Yang's kids look at him. Look at his big 627 00:36:55,350 --> 00:36:59,340 watermelon had the guy's dumb his would. No, no, that's not 628 00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:03,480 true. Because, you know, you don't get to be chosen secretary 629 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,840 of state if you're dumb. I said, Oh, then how come George Bush 630 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:13,200 who was president is dumb, according to you? That that was 631 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,140 like that was like I that was a knockout punch, John. 632 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:19,380 Yeah, no, that was a left hook right into the liver shot. 633 00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:26,610 Yes. Illegal liver shot. Like, whoa, oh, yeah. Okay. No. And 634 00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:29,700 then we're talking about, you know, about the economy, which, 635 00:37:29,790 --> 00:37:34,320 if you're an Obama is great. Economy is great. I've said 636 00:37:34,350 --> 00:37:38,790 what? The economy is nice. Yes. The economy is good. Not great. 637 00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:41,700 There's no job. Nobody talking about unemployment is down. You 638 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:44,340 know, it's only a little about six and a half percent. I said, 639 00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:49,440 Yeah. Because people are not even looking for jobs anymore. 640 00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:53,100 And that's it, though. There's plenty of jobs in North Dakota. 641 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:57,300 Ah, I'm not kidding. I, John and 642 00:37:57,390 --> 00:37:59,250 plenty of jobs in North Dakota. 643 00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:03,360 Really what was said? And then I said, What do you do you 644 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,840 understand that the the numbers that are reported that are 645 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,630 they're skewed, and they're real? What are you Jack Welch? 646 00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:13,080 That's, yeah, I'm on board with him. Because, you know, if you 647 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,610 look at shadow stats.com, oh, some conspiracy site? I said, 648 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,820 No, they just include the use six numbers, which you may want 649 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:26,430 to have a look at. It really started to go downhill from 650 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:29,970 there. And now people are starting to speak loudly to me. 651 00:38:30,570 --> 00:38:34,290 Very, very much like as you're very much like Glenn Greenwald 652 00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:37,500 does, you know when you so I'm going to be Glenn Greenwald. And 653 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,690 then you're going to start disagreeing with me. So I'm 654 00:38:39,690 --> 00:38:41,910 going to, you're going to start talking some sense. So here I 655 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:44,880 am. And I'm talking about, for instance, about the middle 656 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,710 class, and you can jump and the middle class is really I want to 657 00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:54,990 talk to you about this. Thinking, that's how it went. 658 00:38:55,830 --> 00:38:58,680 And I noticed that by Wow. So middle class, this was a very 659 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,620 interesting topic as well. I said, you know, we're all in the 660 00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:07,800 middle class. No, we're not. Yeah, you are. To the middle 661 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,340 class is not defined by money is defined by either you're 662 00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:14,520 starving, or you're pretty much a billionaire. And if you're 663 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,780 not, you're middle class, that's, that's no, no, no, no, 664 00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:23,010 no, no, no, you don't understand middle class. I said, Well, if 665 00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:27,090 you ask the Secretary of the Treasury in America, or they'll 666 00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:30,690 tell you that the middle class is not defined by income is 667 00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:33,900 defined by a number of factors. And the whole reason for that is 668 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,810 everyone wants to be in it. And of course, the government wants 669 00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:40,680 you in it, because that's where the taxes are. No, no, no, we're 670 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,670 not when they would not accept middle class. No, we're upper 671 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,440 upper beneath them. Yes. 672 00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:50,610 I said. And I think once we have a Porsche, I said, Yeah, it's a 673 00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:54,300 Boxster. Believe me, you're middle class. This is less you 674 00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,220 got a 911 You're not even close. 675 00:39:56,730 --> 00:40:00,960 Even then. Unless you have Ferrari 676 00:40:01,020 --> 00:40:06,570 and but even even then, John, come on even then even then. So 677 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:08,760 this leads into educational I 678 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,970 got one. If you have a Bugatti Veyron 679 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:16,380 and it's paid off and it's paid off, it's not on a lease, 680 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,120 you can't lease you have to give $1.2 million cash and 681 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,990 you're not living in it. If you're not sleeping. 682 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:30,840 There's no places to lay down in that thing. All right. Okay, 683 00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:35,970 cars. So this leads to education. And, of course, well, 684 00:40:35,970 --> 00:40:39,210 the problem with this country is education is 685 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:40,770 atrocious. 686 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:47,520 And I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah. Well, I probably I said, No, I 687 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,830 don't think it's very good. What's happening with this 688 00:40:49,830 --> 00:40:53,550 centrally managed education? Oh, it's the state's you know, and 689 00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,610 Texas writes all the textbooks and like, oh, just stop. Hold on 690 00:40:56,610 --> 00:41:00,570 a second. Slow down. Slow down, Mister, I'm moving to 691 00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:04,830 California. Do you know what Common Core is? No, I heard of 692 00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:07,950 it. But I don't know what it is. Okay. Well, essentially, the 693 00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:12,330 whole idea is that the companies that the technology companies 694 00:41:12,330 --> 00:41:18,120 have finagle this this stem thing to create workers for 695 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,320 their companies. And, and the answer I get back is, well, 696 00:41:22,350 --> 00:41:26,670 that's exactly what we need. We need more workers in technology 697 00:41:26,670 --> 00:41:34,560 and knowledge economy, this is a good thing. I said, you really 698 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,280 you just want to create bots and robots? Well, yeah, we need 699 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,730 more. The answer was yes. Essentially, yes, we need this. 700 00:41:41,730 --> 00:41:45,600 We need more knowledge workers to be in the knowledge business. 701 00:41:46,290 --> 00:41:51,090 Because that's our future. I said, No, our future is the 702 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:57,450 trillions of cubic zirconias of oil and gas in Utah. Our future 703 00:41:57,450 --> 00:41:59,760 is the gas we're going to be exporting all over the world. 704 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,770 That's our future. We need workers in that. 705 00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:06,210 And by the way, by the way, you call back you missed. Now, wait, 706 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,500 I didn't miss anything. Because I said, you're an artist. Why 707 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:14,250 can't we have art and musicians to the best the best programmers 708 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,950 I've ever hired? That's actually better callback than when I had 709 00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:17,430 in mind. 710 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,960 I said, the best programmers I've ever hired. Were bassist, 711 00:42:22,110 --> 00:42:26,970 bass players make great programmers. It's it's you can't 712 00:42:26,970 --> 00:42:31,140 always like writing No, it's math to no programming. Code. 713 00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:36,360 writing apps is not just math. It is it is art. It you can 714 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:42,000 write code 100,000 different ways just like a book. No, no, 715 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,190 no, it at the end of the day, it's ones and zeros. Oh, no, 716 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,910 that's not true. Well, the apps I use are said no, it's 717 00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:55,260 interface design. It's this is real art. But the underlying 718 00:42:55,260 --> 00:43:00,060 code, that is art, you can write, you can write a programme 719 00:43:00,450 --> 00:43:05,130 with 10,000 lines or 5000 lines, you can do the same thing. It's 720 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:09,360 just how good of a writer you are. It's not just math, could 721 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,650 not get this in John, impossible. We need stem stem. 722 00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:18,210 All right, we're gonna really we might as well just go back to 723 00:43:18,210 --> 00:43:21,630 command line, because that's the only interface we're gonna have 724 00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:25,170 the works. What was your call back on them? What 725 00:43:25,710 --> 00:43:27,810 they call back was you said we need more of these you said, 726 00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:30,000 Well, you were just advocating everyone going to North Dakota. 727 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,080 That's the oil business. 728 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,560 Yeah. And I kind of stayed away from that, because 729 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:39,240 that's just too argumentative. But I think your your point 730 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:42,450 about the art is really interesting, for the simple 731 00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:44,520 reason that you have an artist there, and that kind of an 732 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,660 artist, the artists, artists, the artsy, artsy fartsy group, 733 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,190 well, who by the way, is is a lead dress in the in the 734 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:56,430 quantified self movement. So she's kind of a reverse artists 735 00:43:56,430 --> 00:44:02,190 where all art is data. And if I had to, and now we have this 736 00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:07,200 ongoing bet, which I already won last year, he said, Oh, Apple 737 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,420 will have an iWatch by Christmas. And of course, I 738 00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:12,660 said, No, they won't. And it was and now it's like, oh, it's 739 00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:15,810 gonna happen. I watch this coming by Christmas and no, it's 740 00:44:15,810 --> 00:44:19,650 not going to happen. And he lost his bed already. Even though she 741 00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:24,630 doubled down, double or nothing. I said it's not going to happen. 742 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:29,580 Apple will not do an iWatch no matter Yes. Everybody wants to 743 00:44:29,610 --> 00:44:34,650 track themselves data is the future of life. Ray Kurzweil is 744 00:44:34,650 --> 00:44:40,350 my hero. And I'm all into I'd like it's interesting. Sure, 745 00:44:40,350 --> 00:44:44,010 it's certain things but no, no, I do not think that that we need 746 00:44:44,010 --> 00:44:48,780 to be it's it's a very sad state of affairs when all we want is 747 00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:52,620 to train robots to create robot apps that tell us when to go to 748 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:57,660 sleep. That's the That's the future. I see. That's the future 749 00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:02,790 I see with my friends. Yeah, So then I find 750 00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:06,180 it uh, yeah, it's interesting. I think these dinners are very 751 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:07,620 worthwhile and that you talk about them 752 00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:12,270 incredibly well. And what I found surprising after the last 753 00:45:12,270 --> 00:45:16,530 report is that it was actually a moment where Okay, are you 754 00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:19,680 enjoying your meal? Because now we're going to give Adam all our 755 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:26,670 crazy. Okay? Bring it on. That's fine. But they're also mad, 756 00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:30,870 they're mad. Because they don't listen to this show, is why 757 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:34,650 they're mad because they're so miss understanding of what's 758 00:45:34,650 --> 00:45:37,440 really going on. By the way, they don't watch television. 759 00:45:37,590 --> 00:45:39,840 They don't read, you know, they listen to NPR. I think that 760 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,650 would be the extent of 761 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:43,800 it. Yeah, that would put you into one track. And then, 762 00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:48,060 oh, this was great. And the professor goes, No, we're back 763 00:45:48,060 --> 00:45:53,340 on education. And his wife says, Well, you know, we succeed, you 764 00:45:53,340 --> 00:45:57,150 know, Singapore, China, there's so much better at math, where 50 765 00:45:57,150 --> 00:46:00,360 On the list, like, well, that's the OECD numbers. And if you 766 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,390 really look at the numbers, you'll see that's not I'm not 767 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:05,850 talking OECD numbers as well. Yeah, that's the headline, 768 00:46:05,850 --> 00:46:08,250 you're you're parroting because I you know, this is what I do 769 00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:14,880 for a living? It's the Oh, it's the OECD test and Joomla number 770 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,660 15 said, Yeah, but the percentage is so minut. You 771 00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:21,750 know, it's, yeah, it looks like we're number 50. But it's really 772 00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:26,970 only a percentage point or so under China. And that I sent I 773 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,100 Google around and I find a report. Written by I'll put it 774 00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:35,070 in the show notes for today, written by two professors from 775 00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:38,700 Stanford, the very school professor is going to refuting 776 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:43,740 this bullcrap OECD study that says America's dumb, and we suck 777 00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:46,800 at math. And I say, Oh, I hit this some smart people at this 778 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,520 school. Maybe you should read this report. Like, oh, well, I 779 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,560 had I. Yes. I didn't realise that. That, you know, that this 780 00:46:55,590 --> 00:46:59,880 had been? I haven't read the report recently. Okay. Well, 781 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:05,910 then don't raise your voice at me, please. Ah, and then of 782 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:08,700 course, yeah, I admire you for actually going through this 783 00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,680 process because I, I don't, 784 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:14,220 I'm still, I'm still young. I'm still young. But also, 785 00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:17,910 I won't have these dinners. I actually have dinners with guys 786 00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:20,010 have to calm down. They're completely off the deep end. 787 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:25,170 Now, that's called a call dad. It's not that bad. 788 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,440 Yeah, we have nights here in Austin to see if we have that 789 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,360 here. But this is no, it's really good. Because what always 790 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,300 happens, and the next day, I'll get an email, Hey, you know, I 791 00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:38,370 looked into that, and now you will kind of write about that. 792 00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:42,240 And you know, it's always the screaming in my face, and then 793 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,810 later, and notice, not everybody's copied on the email. 794 00:47:46,260 --> 00:47:48,570 But it's, it's, it's alright, it's alright. 795 00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:51,870 This is the truth. This, you know, we they came up with the 796 00:47:51,870 --> 00:47:56,880 term that that group of people denialist Yes. Oh, yeah. And 797 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,280 it's really kind of a one of these things whenever he calls, 798 00:47:59,310 --> 00:48:02,280 you know, that these is whatever you call somebody you are, 799 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,710 yes, yeah. What brought it up in the show, but you're sick of 800 00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:06,180 being yourself and your COPD due to health. 801 00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:11,910 And so the denialist moniker, which came from an old bot type 802 00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:15,870 thinker, is pretty much describes these people. It's 803 00:48:15,870 --> 00:48:18,720 very interesting. I find it fascinating, but it's also kind 804 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:19,440 of saddening, 805 00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:23,580 to see boy, it's, yes, it's saddening, it's what's saddening 806 00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:27,750 to me is that when the professor and Maryanne leave for 807 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:31,170 California, well, you will have one probably once you know one 808 00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:33,300 year and then you know, the maybe they'll come back to 809 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:37,500 Austin for visit. We'll have another one. And I'll lose, I'll 810 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:40,320 lose pro continuities gone. Well, the CON for the show, it's 811 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,070 horrible, obviously. But for them, I think I think I improved 812 00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:47,220 their lives. And then my friends, I like them, you know, 813 00:48:47,220 --> 00:48:48,120 so I think I 814 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,570 think you're taking Dude, I don't think you can you either 815 00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:55,170 have the breakthrough and you change. No, no, no, that's never 816 00:48:55,170 --> 00:48:58,050 gonna steal you. It's always what's it called? When you go 817 00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:02,280 back down here? It's called Fail failure. Well, besides the 818 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,920 failure to when you become a you go on the waggon you don't drink 819 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,490 anymore, and then 820 00:49:08,490 --> 00:49:10,950 you fall off the waggon backsliding, you fall off the 821 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:12,030 waggon. Well, 822 00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:15,570 that's a dammit there's a great word for this. Anyway, it's like 823 00:49:15,570 --> 00:49:19,770 recidivism, you go back to your old ways if you don't have the 824 00:49:19,770 --> 00:49:22,860 influence, this is actually discussed in some detail by Jack 825 00:49:22,860 --> 00:49:25,980 L UL and a book I recommend to everybody. You want to read a 826 00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:28,920 great book, besides the fact that everything else you will 827 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,360 wrote is pretty decent, E L L u L. And the book is called 828 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,130 propaganda. And it discusses the mechanism of propaganda and how 829 00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:40,920 it works. And it really only works in other words, when you 830 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,960 get a hosted set of a structure of of the way to think it has to 831 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,190 be in a closed society. You can't you can't be you know, see 832 00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:53,040 other things when you start seeing other ways of thinking. 833 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,600 Then you propaganda loses its effect. And what you're doing is 834 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,730 you're just the other day, you're the other way of thinking 835 00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:02,730 for the moment, but once they go back into the closed system, 836 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,360 which is California, Stanford their area, they're doomed. 837 00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:08,760 Yeah, they're right back to the old knee jerk, whatever. 838 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:11,670 Right? Well, that's sad, because, you know, he's part of 839 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:14,640 the education system, and he's going to be teaching people and 840 00:50:14,850 --> 00:50:18,540 although he you know, but he is a great teacher, I really liked 841 00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:21,990 the professor, because when you hit him with something that 842 00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:26,400 just, you know, that is logic that he can't turn left or 843 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,180 right, he will say, okay, you know, like the, you know, like 844 00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:35,550 the you can't call you can't say carry, it can't be appointed 845 00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:38,430 secretary of state if he's dumb, and at the same time, say George 846 00:50:38,430 --> 00:50:41,700 Bush was dumb. He just can't do that. You know. So that's how 847 00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:42,600 you like Kirk with 848 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,330 the computer. I drinking. 849 00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:51,690 The holodeck just disappeared all of a sudden. So then it's 850 00:50:51,690 --> 00:50:54,540 kind of interesting to find out that both the professor and his, 851 00:50:55,470 --> 00:51:00,270 his a college buddy, who was Bill the, the criminal defence 852 00:51:00,270 --> 00:51:04,770 lawyer, they'd both gone to Baylor at Baylor, which is Waco, 853 00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:10,440 Texas, right? And they were both grousing about, well, Oh, too 854 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,570 bad. We went to Baylor. So what's wrong with Baylor? Well, 855 00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:17,580 Southern Baptist, crazy religious school. And then I 856 00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:20,370 said, Oh, well, this is why this is why you are the way you are. 857 00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:23,040 This is why you turn your science into religion. This is 858 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,740 how you were taught. I didn't like that that would that didn't 859 00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:27,630 go over well, and that conversation stopped pretty 860 00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:35,640 quickly. However, very interesting. Bill, Bill had 861 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,570 listened to the show. He came prepared. Bill is the lawyer. 862 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,870 Yeah, he's an and I said to Tom, Bill, tell me about y'all. You 863 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:46,800 know, I defend sex sex offenders. I said, Oh, you mean 864 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,400 people who peed on the street? He said, Yep, that would be one 865 00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:54,810 or the Romeo and Juliet, you know, where, you know, the older 866 00:51:54,810 --> 00:52:00,450 guy, younger girl, you know, statutory rape type stuff. And I 867 00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:03,870 said, Well, you know, your people may not say this to you 868 00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:06,810 often, but I think you're doing a great service. This is very, 869 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,930 very nice. Someone has to do this. So I got on his good 870 00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:14,370 graces early. Good. And he said, Well, I mean, I heard you guys 871 00:52:14,370 --> 00:52:18,210 talking about the privatised prisons, the correction 872 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,610 Corporation of America. He says what? And he said, You know, I 873 00:52:20,610 --> 00:52:24,060 read their annual report, he says, it's really hilarious to 874 00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:27,840 see how good business is and how, you know, we need to keep 875 00:52:27,870 --> 00:52:30,630 running people through the prison system. And he turned me 876 00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:35,250 on to a man, that Mike of yours, it's 877 00:52:35,250 --> 00:52:37,470 yeah, I'm sorry, I gotta get off the oil. It was you have 878 00:52:37,470 --> 00:52:40,950 WD 40 or something in the house. I got some three in one that 879 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:45,120 might work. And he turned me on to something that we had maybe 880 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,030 we've talked about it. He says you think private prisons are 881 00:52:48,030 --> 00:52:52,410 bad? He says private probation services? This is the bonanza. 882 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,800 Oh, yeah. And we have not talked about that. 883 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,340 Right. So private. Me see, I have the name of the of one of 884 00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:02,550 the companies. And he deals with this all the time. They're all 885 00:53:02,550 --> 00:53:06,540 over all over the country now. So they go to the court, and 886 00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:10,050 they say, look, court, you find this person, you know, 1000 887 00:53:10,050 --> 00:53:14,790 bucks for driving with a suspended licence, we will take 888 00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:18,570 over this case for you, as a as a private probation company, 889 00:53:18,690 --> 00:53:23,850 it'll cost the court nothing, we will collect the money. And the 890 00:53:23,850 --> 00:53:29,490 way they do it is they so here's an example. In addition to the 891 00:53:29,490 --> 00:53:34,140 fine that the court puts in, so let's say, you know, someone has 892 00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:37,050 to pay $1,000, and they can pay it off it over the course of a 893 00:53:37,050 --> 00:53:42,090 year. They'll also pay $40 a month for the probation fee, 894 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:46,890 which is on top of your fine. And of course in your setup fee 895 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:53,820 of $35 or whatever. And and and if you don't pay on time, then 896 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,300 they tell the judge and then you get a warrant for your arrest 897 00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:02,670 and then they throw you in jail. Because it's debtors, business, 898 00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:08,100 it's fantastic. And it's everywhere. It's everywhere. 899 00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:09,990 They have they have 900 00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:15,210 douchebags do this stuff. They've taken over this 901 00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:18,330 privatisation of the government services they you know in San 902 00:54:18,330 --> 00:54:21,840 Francisco is not the San Francisco city anymore that 903 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,190 collects the fees for the parking tickets. It's a private 904 00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:29,280 company. Yeah. Parking Company of America. 905 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,120 bullcrap. And so So even at that if you don't pay your tickets, 906 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,840 and then you you go to court. So you have your you know, and of 907 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,270 course you get fines on top of fines. So it could be 1000s of 908 00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:42,390 dollars just going in, and then you're guilty. And then the 909 00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:45,900 judge says, Okay, you're getting probation. And your probation is 910 00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,450 for a year in that year, you have to pay off every single 911 00:54:48,450 --> 00:54:51,090 month. In addition to that, you're going to pay the 912 00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:55,650 probation companies kind of like the driving classes. Only. If 913 00:54:55,650 --> 00:55:00,360 you miss a payment. They arrest you and throw you into jail. Oh, 914 00:55:02,939 --> 00:55:06,869 wow. Yeah, this is I don't understand how this has gotten 915 00:55:06,869 --> 00:55:10,889 this far, the parking ticket thing, which is a low level 916 00:55:10,889 --> 00:55:14,189 annoyance compared to that. You can't fight the parking ticket 917 00:55:14,189 --> 00:55:17,159 anymore now, is it? Of course got nothing to do with it. You 918 00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:20,009 go in there, I got a parking guy have an issue here it was. So 919 00:55:20,009 --> 00:55:24,269 why go till I get to talk to the bureaucrats about it? We can't 920 00:55:24,269 --> 00:55:27,299 do anything for you. What are the judges do now? What do they 921 00:55:27,299 --> 00:55:30,689 spend their time on? What are they? What does the justice 922 00:55:30,689 --> 00:55:36,359 system do with his money? Yeah, I don't know. And like you said 923 00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:38,459 that aren't even hiring. These guys are just putting the money 924 00:55:38,459 --> 00:55:41,999 in their pocket. This is terrible. Yeah. Yeah. 925 00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:45,960 So yeah, so they have, they've got associations, they've got 926 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:52,200 all kinds of stuff. We've got all kinds of amazing and most of 927 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:57,900 this is moving violations. If you don't pay a traffic ticket, 928 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,460 and you don't go to court, then you in a lot of states, 929 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,130 automatically, your licence is suspended. So then if you get 930 00:56:05,130 --> 00:56:09,570 caught, you're driving without a licence. That's now you're 931 00:56:09,570 --> 00:56:17,130 really screwed. Anyway, so he so he does a lot of that, to me 932 00:56:17,130 --> 00:56:22,260 says it's just insane. And he was telling me that no, I do not 933 00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:27,840 want to take the bar do not want to become a lawyer. Okay. Okay. 934 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:34,110 And then things really start to go downhill from there. And 935 00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:38,580 somehow HPV came up, or you I didn't even I didn't even I 936 00:56:38,580 --> 00:56:41,460 didn't even get into this one. Where one of the ladies at the 937 00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:44,220 table said, Well, you know, I was at my doctor and I don't 938 00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:46,710 have to do pap smears. I don't have to do mammograms. I've read 939 00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:49,980 all the research and we know what this is about. We talked 940 00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:51,180 about this just the other day. 941 00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:54,060 Yeah, we have one of one of our producers wrote us about it. 942 00:56:54,090 --> 00:56:56,550 Yeah. And what what is the reason for this? 943 00:56:57,180 --> 00:57:00,300 So the Obamacare doesn't have this pickup, right? 944 00:57:00,330 --> 00:57:05,700 Exactly. kill people. And, and I'm just like, Okay, I'm not 945 00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:07,800 even going to get into this. I'm not going to say no, 946 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,530 that would have been a that would have been an ugly muddy 947 00:57:10,530 --> 00:57:11,400 pit. And 948 00:57:11,459 --> 00:57:14,879 but then she said, and by the way, HPV that's just slug 949 00:57:14,879 --> 00:57:15,539 cancer. 950 00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:19,620 And that, and then this is one 951 00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:22,950 of the one of the women and that's when I went, Okay, we're 952 00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:26,610 gonna go home now. I didn't say it like, you know, to make it so 953 00:57:26,610 --> 00:57:30,420 obvious. But Mickey and I looked at each other like, holy crap. 954 00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:33,690 It's just a slug cancer. And these. 955 00:57:34,890 --> 00:57:39,450 These are liberals. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's a mixed bag out 956 00:57:39,450 --> 00:57:41,130 there. Yes, it is. It is. 957 00:57:41,819 --> 00:57:44,759 Anyway, that would be my reports. It's another instalment 958 00:57:44,759 --> 00:57:51,689 of with the May 2, we should have our final obat. Dinner. 959 00:57:51,930 --> 00:57:55,080 All right, we'll look forward to that. It's a month away. That'd 960 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,710 be right. By the way, during one of the episodes, of course, is 961 00:57:58,710 --> 00:58:02,220 May day in May the day for the six week cycle to hit again. So 962 00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:03,360 they'll be within a week of that. 963 00:58:03,450 --> 00:58:07,020 And I received an email about that. You see, in fact, I want 964 00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:10,830 to read it verbatim. The Hey Adam, it's your Christian friend 965 00:58:10,830 --> 00:58:13,710 who's writing the crazy conspiracy alarm, Illuminati 966 00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:17,250 book. That's always an opener for you. Hope all is well with 967 00:58:17,250 --> 00:58:19,530 you. I was listening to this past Thursday show you guys said 968 00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:22,860 something that perked my ear. John said the next six weeks 969 00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:27,390 cycle lands on May 1 May Day, May 1 is the highest holy day to 970 00:58:27,390 --> 00:58:30,210 the Illuminati. You can Google that if you like see for 971 00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:32,700 yourself. I don't know if the two dates converge meanings, 972 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,880 converging means anything or if anything special will happen. 973 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,330 But I think it was interesting, but you might as well. God bless 974 00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:45,570 bred so that it could we could have a really super duper event 975 00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:48,810 where the FBI and the Illuminati collude. 976 00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:54,420 Yes, it could be 977 00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:58,080 sorry to mean something with that. Anyway, I do want to thank 978 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,750 you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. 979 00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:01,470 Dvorak. 980 00:59:01,529 --> 00:59:04,649 Yeah. And in the morning to you, Adam curry. And also I want to 981 00:59:04,649 --> 00:59:06,809 say in the morning all the ships at sea and all the boots on the 982 00:59:06,809 --> 00:59:09,029 ground and the feet in the air who listen to the show, and also 983 00:59:09,029 --> 00:59:10,799 the Dames and nights out there, indeed, and 984 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,200 to our artists who you can see all of the submissions had no 985 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,350 agenda art generator.com Thank you very much. Thorin for 986 00:59:16,350 --> 00:59:21,780 episode art 4601. And in the morning, everybody there in the 987 00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:26,220 chat room, no agenda chat.net. No agenda stream.com for the 988 00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:29,700 live shows, and it's always nice to have people feeding back to 989 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:33,390 us in real time. And the way this programme works the way 990 00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:36,840 you're obviously we're not paid for by political parties, like 991 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,010 all the news networks, that big Bonanza is coming very soon. We 992 00:59:41,010 --> 00:59:44,040 don't take it political. In fact, we have no advertising, no 993 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,980 native advertising, no sneaky advertising, no advertising 994 00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:49,200 whatsoever, because the only way we can stay on the air and do 995 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,740 this type of analysis is if it is brought to you by the 996 00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:55,830 listeners who we call producers and we have some execs and 997 00:59:55,830 --> 00:59:57,870 associate execs for today's show. 998 00:59:58,709 --> 01:00:02,879 Andy we do Uh, let's start with a couple of them, starting with 999 01:00:02,879 --> 01:00:08,099 Jonathan Dennison. And who sent in a note and he sent into he's 1000 01:00:08,099 --> 01:00:12,839 an instant $8,000 in Pierce Idaho. Bam. And let's see where 1001 01:00:12,839 --> 01:00:14,969 it gives us note here there's one of them. 1002 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,390 Was this a check or do you send in a visitor paid through Pay 1003 01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:24,750 Pal? He writes in Hey guys, I've been listening for a few years 1004 01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:30,720 now I the guilt of freeloading has finally become too great. I 1005 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,420 appreciate all the work you guys put into dispelling the lies of 1006 01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:36,480 the mass media disinformation monster Keep up the great work. 1007 01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,020 While ago my buddy Christopher Ricketson called me out as a 1008 01:00:40,020 --> 01:00:44,490 douchebag No, please give me a deep douchey so I can feel clean 1009 01:00:44,490 --> 01:00:47,520 as well as guilt free. I'd also like to give Christopher Rick 1010 01:00:47,550 --> 01:00:50,700 Ricketson some karma because he is constantly out there 1011 01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:56,100 promoting the formula. All right. You've been de Deus. 1012 01:00:58,050 --> 01:00:59,700 You've got karma. 1013 01:01:02,850 --> 01:01:07,290 Next on the list is Alexander Farrington Alexander Farrington, 1014 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:14,490 from Southern California 63333. Nice. And he also says he wants 1015 01:01:14,490 --> 01:01:18,120 a podcasting licence that was on the news kind of on the check. 1016 01:01:18,330 --> 01:01:22,770 He also wrote in saying this opening line may be serious if 1017 01:01:22,770 --> 01:01:27,090 the hashtags are pushing John's email to spam. Put a donation 1018 01:01:27,090 --> 01:01:30,900 note hashtag, Adam, please tell John I'm making a dent in my 1019 01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:33,900 Boehner status. Hey, Johnny, my 1020 01:01:34,350 --> 01:01:38,100 Hey, John. Yeah, he's making a dent in his Boehner status. 1021 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,310 I heard that okay. And sending in my food budget for the 1022 01:01:41,310 --> 01:01:44,850 foreseeable future The good news is I can eat mac and cheese on 1023 01:01:44,850 --> 01:01:47,940 the cheap elke why 1024 01:01:50,610 --> 01:01:53,730 the chat room is saying no agenda brought to you by 1025 01:01:53,730 --> 01:01:56,190 Carbonite use the code slug cancer 1026 01:01:57,930 --> 01:02:00,630 thanks for the outstanding work the analysis the entertainment 1027 01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:07,050 the analysis analysis tainment and now attainment analysis All 1028 01:02:07,050 --> 01:02:08,670 right, we do Anala teen 1029 01:02:09,509 --> 01:02:11,699 you could read that in multiple ways but yeah, and now 1030 01:02:11,699 --> 01:02:12,299 obtainment 1031 01:02:12,509 --> 01:02:15,359 Yeah, you could shout out to chat it's always good to hear 1032 01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:17,579 fellow EMS brother that's hitting him in the mouth and a 1033 01:02:17,579 --> 01:02:20,909 round of karma All right, respectively you John and Adam 1034 01:02:20,909 --> 01:02:22,169 crackpot and Buzz pill 1035 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,700 is cracked button and Buzz pill 1036 01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:32,460 tasty bites pill nut and some other nail makeup for no 1037 01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:34,590 apparent reason the checks in the mail here's the confirmation 1038 01:02:34,590 --> 01:02:37,710 page hopefully you can credit me on show 600 But apparently not 1039 01:02:37,830 --> 01:02:42,840 602 I can go back and put it on 600 Good we're doing that for 1040 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:48,810 somebody coming up. Okay, he needs some karma. Karma to 1041 01:02:49,230 --> 01:02:54,390 give Yeah, she douching and karma karma for Alexander 1042 01:02:54,420 --> 01:02:55,980 you've got karma 1043 01:02:58,470 --> 01:03:00,450 you want an LG y in there too but 1044 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:06,660 oh well. I'm sorry. I wasn't paying attention here we go. 1045 01:03:10,410 --> 01:03:13,950 And now we have another $600 donor Dean Rasmussen in the 1046 01:03:13,950 --> 01:03:16,920 Pacific Northwest I haven't noticed Senate him by mail. He 1047 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:17,220 must 1048 01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:20,760 be more than just Dean he's got to be served by now well into 1049 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:21,330 certain 1050 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:25,620 he does he says he's working on it. Okay, well 1051 01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:28,890 done. I could be wrong. I recognise the name just maybe 1052 01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:30,930 I've been listening to your podcast for a little over a year 1053 01:03:30,930 --> 01:03:33,720 I've been considered staying anonymous so you probably 1054 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,980 haven't heard his name much now because of my career. However 1055 01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:41,370 says what that is but we can guess it's in Everett, 1056 01:03:41,370 --> 01:03:46,560 Washington. However freedom of speech means nothing if you're 1057 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,160 afraid to use it. And by the way can I mention just stop the show 1058 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,130 for a second and mentioned something? Yeah. People who are 1059 01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:57,060 fearful that some we don't have any buddy we don't have like 1060 01:03:57,060 --> 01:04:00,570 there's the secret the stasis not listening for your name so 1061 01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:05,910 they can come over and shoot you know the guy who's got two good 1062 01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:08,640 excuses. The gas is like giving you this money. But my wife my 1063 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,230 wife, she'll kill me. I'm fine. 1064 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:14,820 That's for real. A real threat. Yeah, that's fear. 1065 01:04:15,060 --> 01:04:20,580 I would I would I believe that. As it all saying amongst the no 1066 01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:23,520 agenda listeners goes it's time for me to stop being a Boehner 1067 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,400 and become a donor. The special producer credit for show 600 1068 01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:28,950 seemed like you remembered must have put him on there too. By 1069 01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:32,580 the way, on the old show. seemed like a good time as any hope I 1070 01:04:32,610 --> 01:04:35,940 took forever for this check to come in. Hopefully I'll be a 1071 01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:38,580 knighthood. By the end of the year only no agenda covers the 1072 01:04:38,580 --> 01:04:42,870 news in a way relevant to anyone who thinks that higher than 1073 01:04:42,870 --> 01:04:46,470 fourth grade level. Your deconstruction analysis two 1074 01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:49,170 times a week is what I look forward to more than just about 1075 01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:52,170 anything else your hard work is greatly appreciated and admired. 1076 01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:57,420 More important you two gentlemen remain a fine bastion of news 1077 01:04:57,420 --> 01:05:00,810 and information that I use to help educate my Two boys in the 1078 01:05:01,110 --> 01:05:03,660 trench warfare that is common core. 1079 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:11,880 Yeah. Did you know that someone tweeted that? That Ph D letter 1080 01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:16,140 about common core and they put our names on it. And every day I 1081 01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:21,750 got 1000 tweets of people just all kinds of weirdos showing up 1082 01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:26,100 now on my tweet tweeted that we didn't do we did nothing. But 1083 01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:29,640 because this was tweeted with our tweeter of names on it, 1084 01:05:29,790 --> 01:05:34,500 because we have our ads in Yeah, yeah. And I didn't get it and 1085 01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:34,650 there's 1086 01:05:34,650 --> 01:05:39,480 all kinds of site where you guys You shut up. They're up. Did he 1087 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:45,480 block him? No, no, no, no, that's what Twitter's for. Oh, I 1088 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,900 blocked people at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Yeah, when I 1089 01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:51,900 just stink, blocked Africa. Listen to this go. Why should I? 1090 01:05:52,050 --> 01:05:55,470 Why do I want to have be hassled on Twitter? It's you know, it's 1091 01:05:55,470 --> 01:05:56,970 a time consumer as it is. 1092 01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:00,839 I like to have my ear to the feeling of the people on the 1093 01:06:00,839 --> 01:06:01,709 street, John. 1094 01:06:02,609 --> 01:06:06,599 That is not the people on the street. Let me finish this note. 1095 01:06:06,779 --> 01:06:09,389 As for any Christian listeners who don't donate because Adam 1096 01:06:09,389 --> 01:06:12,599 does have Tourette's and does on occasion swear or use the Lord's 1097 01:06:12,599 --> 01:06:15,629 name in vain I want to call them out as douchebag Oh, yeah, 1098 01:06:15,629 --> 01:06:22,169 absolutely. They need to donate and stop being hypocritical. 1099 01:06:22,169 --> 01:06:23,879 There's nothing more hypocritical than a Christian 1100 01:06:23,879 --> 01:06:28,139 who falsely uses some lame excuse as swearing to not 1101 01:06:28,139 --> 01:06:32,939 donate. Yes. It's never stopped any Christian I know from being 1102 01:06:32,969 --> 01:06:35,849 going to a movie theatre or watching a TV show just because 1103 01:06:35,849 --> 01:06:39,239 they use the Lord's name in vain once in a while. The real reason 1104 01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:41,429 they won't donate is because they're cheap. 1105 01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:47,610 Yes. They probably take money out of the little sock with the 1106 01:06:47,610 --> 01:06:49,170 stick that comes by in church. 1107 01:06:49,620 --> 01:06:53,160 I would like a douchebag call out from my friend Tim who has 1108 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:58,680 not donate I would also like some farming karma to to the 1109 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:04,800 head Don't eat me Hillary George Clooney is a spy. And a Putin 1110 01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:11,520 Oh on a second. Don't eat me Hillary. Do to the head to the 1111 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,130 head. Clooney is a spy. 1112 01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:17,040 Yeah. And karma. Hooton 1113 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,400 and then karma. Alright, let's see if we can do this. And this. 1114 01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:22,650 I don't do this for everybody. This kind of stuff. You know. 1115 01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:30,240 Hillary Clinton is a spy. 1116 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,920 You've got karma. 1117 01:07:35,759 --> 01:07:36,839 That was a 10 1118 01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:37,680 Nailed it. 1119 01:07:38,009 --> 01:07:40,409 You nailed it. Good work. 1120 01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:44,070 You know what? I'm surprised though. No one put in 4710 for a 1121 01:07:44,070 --> 01:07:45,090 ringtone today? 1122 01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:48,479 No, I know. It's well we had to put it in the newsletter to 1123 01:07:48,479 --> 01:07:53,639 remind them ag W Enterprises $333.33 an executive producer 1124 01:07:53,999 --> 01:07:55,709 Massachusett like a global warming 1125 01:07:55,710 --> 01:08:00,840 company at GW nano and through Anthropogenic Global Warming 1126 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,590 enterprises. 1127 01:08:01,650 --> 01:08:06,660 Okay. Love both you'd like to offer a 15% discount on all na s 1128 01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:12,240 listeners at my site combat stocks.com Just send an email to 1129 01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:15,510 me or us after you place your order and mentioned no agenda we 1130 01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:19,770 will supply the discount perfect for any upcoming upcoming 1131 01:08:19,770 --> 01:08:22,650 shooting Wars is a gun shop 1132 01:08:22,649 --> 01:08:26,849 let me take a look combat oh. Oh my goodness. Oh, that guy got 1133 01:08:26,849 --> 01:08:32,489 some cool stuff, dude. I know dude. Okay, I'm gonna order from 1134 01:08:32,489 --> 01:08:35,729 these guys. They got stocks, stocks, did they sell them 1135 01:08:35,729 --> 01:08:39,419 stocks stocks, like I thought stocks and buying is 1136 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,290 not a stock market stock. It's a stock 1137 01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:44,609 varmint stocks. 1138 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,870 Saran gun hillbilly Jim which insky Hey, random hillbilly in 1139 01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:52,380 Elkins, West Virginia. Your old stomping grounds. 333 33 sir 1140 01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:54,900 random hillbilly jonadab Thank you for your courage, acceptance 1141 01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:58,680 donation, I would have come up earlier. But I was busy at IETF 1142 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,820 juggling multiple discussions on supporting DNS privacy. There is 1143 01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:05,610 a serious there's serious strong work being done in this area and 1144 01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:09,270 I would happily explain the details to Adam thanks for for 1145 01:09:09,270 --> 01:09:13,110 the confidence. But I don't want him to think I want to be his 1146 01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:13,710 friend. 1147 01:09:16,890 --> 01:09:20,040 Besides the Adderall and weed trains are back and running on 1148 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,760 time. All right. West Virginia is a good place for this. 1149 01:09:25,140 --> 01:09:28,710 I would think so. Robin is a state I've only been to once I 1150 01:09:28,710 --> 01:09:31,140 should go visit. It's beautiful state. It really is beautiful. 1151 01:09:31,170 --> 01:09:37,410 Robin Clements in old trash. Utrecht Utrecht 2333 12 In 1152 01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:40,830 Holland after the aftermath of successful 600 show please 1153 01:09:40,830 --> 01:09:43,740 accept this donation packing my bags for a trip to a hopefully 1154 01:09:43,740 --> 01:09:46,020 sunny San Francisco this Sunday feel like a perfect time for 1155 01:09:46,020 --> 01:09:48,390 value for value. I will be visiting the Google headquarters 1156 01:09:48,930 --> 01:09:53,670 on an executive summit with 30. Other douchebags doesn't say 1157 01:09:53,670 --> 01:09:57,060 that that's Google clients, what am I thinking? So that would be 1158 01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:59,970 a fine moment for the first hand scepticism 1159 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,520 Be patient when he has an idea when you're into this an 1160 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,420 executive summit with 30 other clients, you stand up and you 1161 01:10:06,420 --> 01:10:11,430 say, spook. Try that. 1162 01:10:13,019 --> 01:10:15,449 They'll say say in the morning to all these. There's got to be 1163 01:10:15,449 --> 01:10:18,719 a couple more in there. Oh yeah. The trip also encompasses a 1164 01:10:18,719 --> 01:10:21,029 dinner at the Dutch Council and a meeting with a future 1165 01:10:21,029 --> 01:10:23,399 colleague of Adams, the Consulate General of the Kingdom 1166 01:10:23,399 --> 01:10:26,669 of the Netherlands and for the 13 western most states who by 1167 01:10:26,669 --> 01:10:29,429 the way previous he was a Special Envoy for Climate 1168 01:10:29,429 --> 01:10:33,479 Change. That makes sense. I'm already looking forward to 1169 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,659 seeing the stunned faces at the dinner table when I treat them 1170 01:10:36,659 --> 01:10:39,359 to some genuine no agenda deconstruction. 1171 01:10:39,839 --> 01:10:46,049 Here's let me get them to get I'll do the face. If beta Landon 1172 01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:49,049 is in there, just tell him I Mickey and Adam said hi and 1173 01:10:49,049 --> 01:10:51,929 you're good to go. He will protect you. If he's not there. 1174 01:10:51,929 --> 01:10:53,039 Tread lightly. 1175 01:10:54,210 --> 01:10:57,330 Please give me a nap for humanity squirrel and some 1176 01:10:57,330 --> 01:11:00,960 general karma for all the days and nights out there. All right. 1177 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,750 You've got karma 1178 01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:14,790 dropping down to Executive Associate Executive Producer. Oh 1179 01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:20,280 one in London $250. Please, can I have some job karma from the 1180 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:25,200 best podcast in universe thanks for 601 awesome show. Wow. 1181 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:30,270 That's so cool. And of course jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's 1182 01:11:30,270 --> 01:11:37,650 vote for jobs. And we have from Chandler Arizona tuna dos or 1183 01:11:37,650 --> 01:11:43,380 Michel de Kock. Just ominous sounding thank you for your 1184 01:11:43,380 --> 01:11:46,410 courage. Congratulations on 600 shows looking forward to 600 1185 01:11:46,410 --> 01:11:51,180 more, I'd like to make a shout out to music gourmet.com A 1186 01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:53,250 little forum where all the no agenda show listeners are 1187 01:11:53,250 --> 01:11:56,340 welcome to join the banter. We even provide a tinfoil hat if 1188 01:11:56,340 --> 01:11:58,890 you won't forget to bring one I also like to ask her some job 1189 01:11:58,890 --> 01:12:02,160 karma for Nicky boy, one of the longtime members at music 1190 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,040 gourmet. He's a great guy and can really use some good luck in 1191 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,250 his job hunt. Thanks for all you do and keep up the great jobs, 1192 01:12:08,430 --> 01:12:11,040 jobs, jobs and jobs. 1193 01:12:11,070 --> 01:12:15,420 Let's vote for jobs. Karma 1194 01:12:16,710 --> 01:12:20,280 wraps it up. Right. Yeah, that covers it for show 602 And 1195 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,130 remind people we do have a show 603 coming up and we need 1196 01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:27,120 continued support. Go to divorce.org/na and help us out. 1197 01:12:27,690 --> 01:12:32,790 And also Devorah Chauhan of arc.com/na you can find a backup 1198 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:36,120 site there and no agenda nation and no agenda show.com both have 1199 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:36,660 buttons. 1200 01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:42,960 And on the PR front. I don't I know we promoted this a new app. 1201 01:12:43,230 --> 01:12:48,480 The no agenda droid app had no agenda droid.com but whoever 1202 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:52,050 runs that, of course, I don't know anymore. Your bandwidth 1203 01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:55,590 limit has exceeded so could you please fix that I'm gonna have 1204 01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:59,280 to take you off the the credits because you know, that's no fun. 1205 01:13:00,090 --> 01:13:02,970 How does that even happen in this day and age? Yeah, I don't 1206 01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:03,240 know. 1207 01:13:03,930 --> 01:13:07,950 That's, that's a good question. It may even be a great question. 1208 01:13:09,180 --> 01:13:12,600 Just go to wordpress.com and get it you know, free account there. 1209 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,520 I don't know if you can even exceed the bandwidth. 1210 01:13:15,810 --> 01:13:21,150 All right, as John Doe said for.org/n A Of course we need 1211 01:13:21,150 --> 01:13:24,420 you to continuously be out there all the time propagating our 1212 01:13:24,420 --> 01:13:25,830 formula. Our formula 1213 01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:29,790 is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth 1214 01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:52,020 ah, we went to it was kind of fun last night. People are 1215 01:13:52,020 --> 01:13:55,170 asking what did you see our pictures we make Miss Mickey and 1216 01:13:55,170 --> 01:14:00,300 I on a big long horn with our cowboy hats. No, there was a 1217 01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:04,020 we've been asked to attend to the bandana ball. 1218 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,020 On the back of a steer 1219 01:14:07,530 --> 01:14:11,040 a long horn. Yeah. Mickey was I was in front holding on to the 1220 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:16,230 horn and not sitting on it. And we were really excited. You 1221 01:14:16,230 --> 01:14:18,390 know, this is like, this is a bandana ball. So it's kind of 1222 01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:22,800 like a charity thing going on here in Austin. And, and we've 1223 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:27,750 been invited to go and it was it was it was really quite nice. 1224 01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:32,310 And we were very well done out on the wild onion ranch. And but 1225 01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:37,410 we we had the hats we had the boots. We had practice our two 1226 01:14:37,410 --> 01:14:40,890 step and our Texas waltz. And we're like we're completely into 1227 01:14:40,890 --> 01:14:43,080 it. This is all great. And then they have the Spass Maddix 1228 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,250 playing which is an 80s cover band. Where do I get the two 1229 01:14:47,250 --> 01:14:53,340 step was very disappointing. No, it was like it was real. And we 1230 01:14:53,340 --> 01:14:56,010 both were severely disappointed because we've been waiting to 1231 01:14:56,220 --> 01:14:59,130 come out as it were with our dancing. 1232 01:14:59,340 --> 01:15:01,620 Yeah, and do it To step Yeah, well, this 1233 01:15:01,620 --> 01:15:05,790 was not the Texas Two Step, Texas Two Step. So the President 1234 01:15:05,790 --> 01:15:09,960 had a certain other secret meeting in the Oval. That was 1235 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,600 the end of the story. Just because people were asking about 1236 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,580 the pictures you didn't go, I didn't 1237 01:15:14,580 --> 01:15:16,500 see the picture that so I didn't, I would have probably 1238 01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:17,460 asked. Okay, go on. Yeah. 1239 01:15:17,610 --> 01:15:21,510 You'll see it after the show. So the President had a secret 1240 01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:28,950 meeting with Zuckerberg and Schmidt and for some reason, 1241 01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:32,040 read of Netflix. Yeah, this is I'm really worried read of 1242 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,090 Netflix. Hastings. Yeah. What is he doing there? Why does it what 1243 01:15:36,090 --> 01:15:39,720 does he have to do? Is he a member of the prison gang now to 1244 01:15:40,380 --> 01:15:41,310 this little? 1245 01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:44,130 I mean, they probably are probably when you rent a movie 1246 01:15:44,130 --> 01:15:48,480 from Yeah, good point. Was there? Yeah. Good. movies from 1247 01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,020 Netflix. They're tracking what you what you're looking at what 1248 01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:54,960 you're watching. And you're watching it when you pause it 1249 01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:56,070 and analyse it. 1250 01:15:56,100 --> 01:16:00,780 Yeah, of course, this is a secret meeting. So no details 1251 01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:03,840 released as to exactly who was there? Or what it was about 1252 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,760 other than the big data project of the government, everybody? I 1253 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,620 don't know if you receive the email from the White House. 1254 01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:13,740 John. Did you not get an email from thanks? So 1255 01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:16,200 I've only get stuff from Hillary No, no 1256 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,430 John Podesta? who as you know he's the what is the the 1257 01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:24,690 democracy outfit? What is the Mr. What's that? What's that? 1258 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,400 What's a huge political action committee that everyone's always 1259 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,030 talking about? 1260 01:16:31,050 --> 01:16:33,960 The Koch brothers not the Koch brothers 1261 01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:39,150 know the democratic thing. I'm gonna look it up. The American 1262 01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:43,590 Democrat future thing come on God, I can't believe you don't 1263 01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:46,620 know off the top your head and, okay. Now I'm pissed off. 1264 01:16:47,220 --> 01:16:51,480 She shouldn't be I don't see any kid desta. Child, dude, come on. 1265 01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:54,480 Dude. You said do twice today. Yeah, well, 1266 01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:58,140 because you're you're doing you're making me dude, you hear 1267 01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:59,640 Podesta? Here we go. 1268 01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:02,430 Centre for American prank. You 1269 01:17:02,670 --> 01:17:05,820 see if I knew it was something like Centre for American. Yeah, 1270 01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:11,610 big Whopper. Everybody knows the big Whopper. So he is now a, a 1271 01:17:11,610 --> 01:17:17,220 adviser to the president. And as a part of this, the President 1272 01:17:17,730 --> 01:17:21,450 had this meeting because of course, we're in collusion with 1273 01:17:21,450 --> 01:17:24,930 the with the tech companies. And I'll just do a quick reminder, 1274 01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:29,610 the tech companies cannot secure your information and encrypted 1275 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,700 and only hand you the keys. Because that breaks our business 1276 01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:35,700 model of reading your shit and looking at your shit to throw 1277 01:17:35,700 --> 01:17:36,570 ads in your face. 1278 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,720 So Podesta was at the meeting? Of course he was at the meeting. 1279 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,780 And then he I know you're so what was I just trying to get a 1280 01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:47,700 I want to get a mental image. We have these these guys all in 1281 01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:52,710 this meeting, talking to each other. And I'm assuming what 1282 01:17:52,710 --> 01:17:55,770 they're doing is trying to cover their ass. And they're looking 1283 01:17:55,770 --> 01:17:59,220 for the best way to do it. That is the high end. Yes. Not you 1284 01:17:59,220 --> 01:18:02,880 know, Zuckerberg is just dreaming something mop. So what 1285 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:03,360 they're looking 1286 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:08,400 for is a way to snooker the public, not just the American 1287 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:14,160 public, the public or large into thinking that somehow all is 1288 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,890 good. Well, not just all is good, but the tech companies 1289 01:18:16,890 --> 01:18:20,460 that they're protecting your freedoms. Right? And they're 1290 01:18:20,460 --> 01:18:24,150 protecting your privacy which or not, because it's their business 1291 01:18:24,150 --> 01:18:25,890 model to not protect it. 1292 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,590 And and Zuckerberg never liked the idea by the way of 1293 01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:31,320 protecting privacy. He thought Facebook should be wide open. So 1294 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,320 you get dates. Yeah, yeah. Any secrets? 1295 01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:37,710 The whole idea was to Yeah, exactly. To know the most about 1296 01:18:37,710 --> 01:18:40,650 the the babe you wanted to score with that was that's how the 1297 01:18:40,650 --> 01:18:41,790 thing was set up. 1298 01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:43,920 Yeah. And that's what he thinks is best. 1299 01:18:43,950 --> 01:18:47,940 So I'll read from a news article here. And this is important for 1300 01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:52,020 the timing a week before a self imposed deadline for a review of 1301 01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:56,340 National Security Agency programmes. Present, Barack 1302 01:18:56,340 --> 01:19:00,840 Obama sought Friday to assure leading internet and Tech Tech 1303 01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:04,200 executives, that his administration is committed to 1304 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,380 protecting people's privacy. You see, this is how it's done. It's 1305 01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:12,780 like, oh, we're poor tech companies and you government 1306 01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:15,630 breaking into our stuff, know that you're giving it to CEOs 1307 01:19:15,630 --> 01:19:19,290 from Facebook, Google, Netflix and others spent more than two 1308 01:19:19,290 --> 01:19:22,800 hours with Obama in the Oval Office, discussing their 1309 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,090 concerns about NSA spying programmes, which have drawn 1310 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,530 outrage from tech companies whose data have been scooped up 1311 01:19:31,530 --> 01:19:34,140 by the government. This is from Fox by 1312 01:19:34,140 --> 01:19:37,770 the way. Shame on you, Fox. Yeah, we know this not to be 1313 01:19:38,430 --> 01:19:39,480 joining Obama 1314 01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:43,350 and the CEOs were Obama's Commerce Secretary, Homeland 1315 01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:47,610 Security Advisor and counsellor John Podesta, whom Obama has 1316 01:19:47,610 --> 01:19:56,760 tasked with leading a review of privacy and big data. And here's 1317 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:57,330 the video. 1318 01:19:57,510 --> 01:20:01,890 Hi, I'm John Podesta. Ca Start to President Obama and chair of 1319 01:20:01,890 --> 01:20:03,420 the Big Data consort. 1320 01:20:06,180 --> 01:20:09,180 I think he's, he's a consort, obviously. 1321 01:20:09,210 --> 01:20:12,930 Hi, I'm John Podesta. Counsellor to President and counsellor. 1322 01:20:13,140 --> 01:20:13,620 Counsellor, 1323 01:20:13,650 --> 01:20:17,400 not on sort. 1324 01:20:19,050 --> 01:20:23,340 Okay, I'm John Podesta hooker. You should give all those 1325 01:20:23,340 --> 01:20:27,960 credits. Hi, I'm John Podesta. I set up the Centre for American 1326 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,270 Progress and liberal think tank in Washington. I'm here in the 1327 01:20:30,270 --> 01:20:32,520 White House. I'm also a professor of law at the 1328 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,090 Georgetown University Law, law University Centre. I was co 1329 01:20:36,090 --> 01:20:39,660 chairman of the Obama Barack Obama transition project. I was 1330 01:20:39,690 --> 01:20:43,410 I'm from Chicago, Chicago, northwest side. I'm Greek 1331 01:20:43,410 --> 01:20:44,040 American. 1332 01:20:44,310 --> 01:20:48,690 Hi, I'm John Podesta. Counsellor to President Obama and chair of 1333 01:20:48,690 --> 01:20:50,700 the big data and privacy Working Group 1334 01:20:50,820 --> 01:20:54,990 Chair of the big data and privacy working group, John, big 1335 01:20:54,990 --> 01:20:58,830 data. Big data is apparently a real thing now because the White 1336 01:20:58,830 --> 01:21:02,610 House is all in on big data. First, it was cloud now it's big 1337 01:21:02,610 --> 01:21:02,940 data 1338 01:21:02,970 --> 01:21:04,230 that's listening here at the White 1339 01:21:04,230 --> 01:21:07,260 House, the White House, the he's talking all kind of secretive. 1340 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,320 I'm here at the White House. I snuck in which is 1341 01:21:10,530 --> 01:21:15,540 high. Councillor to President Obama and chair of the big data 1342 01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:18,690 and privacy Working Group here at the White House at the White 1343 01:21:18,690 --> 01:21:23,010 House. I'm here to look at my office. It's in the White House. 1344 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:23,490 I'm in the 1345 01:21:23,490 --> 01:21:25,680 west wing on January 6, but 1346 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:33,300 the next room is putting on a strong touch. And there it goes. 1347 01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:35,430 He missed the whole. Oh, 1348 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,360 yes. I got to talk a little quietly here because the 1349 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,050 President's practising is put next door. Gotta be quiet. 1350 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,620 Hi, I'm Jonathan outstands. Go, counsellor to President Obama 1351 01:21:46,620 --> 01:21:49,830 and chair of the big data and privacy Working Group here at 1352 01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:54,990 the White House. On January 17, President Obama spoke about the 1353 01:21:54,990 --> 01:21:58,920 changes in technology that we use for national security and 1354 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,890 what it means to our privacy. As part of that speech, the 1355 01:22:01,890 --> 01:22:06,630 President recognise that technology is changing the 1356 01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:10,770 relationship between citizens and privacy more generally, than 1357 01:22:10,770 --> 01:22:15,900 just in that national security context. And so what he said 1358 01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:19,950 now, that was he realised I think that what he just said was 1359 01:22:20,130 --> 01:22:24,360 total bullcrap the relationship between citizens and privacy, I 1360 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:28,920 don't have a relationship with privacy, I have privacy. This, 1361 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:29,340 this is 1362 01:22:30,810 --> 01:22:33,420 something that this is interesting that he would put it 1363 01:22:33,450 --> 01:22:37,350 put it like this, listen to it. There's no privacy as an entity. 1364 01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:41,070 Yeah. Like my relationship is not a state. It's an entity or a 1365 01:22:41,070 --> 01:22:42,660 right. How about a right, 1366 01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:47,370 Keith, President Obama spoke about the changes in technology 1367 01:22:47,370 --> 01:22:50,790 that we use for national security, and what it means to 1368 01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:54,090 our privacy. As part of that speech, the President recognise 1369 01:22:54,090 --> 01:22:59,640 that technology is changing the relationship between citizens 1370 01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,540 and privacy more generally, than just in that national security 1371 01:23:03,540 --> 01:23:05,160 context. And so he 1372 01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:09,990 more generally than just in the national security context, a way 1373 01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:12,660 to communicate with the citizenry, Podesta asked 1374 01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:17,580 that we conduct a 90 day review here at the White House of big 1375 01:23:17,580 --> 01:23:21,270 data and privacy, how it affects the way we live, how we work. 1376 01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:27,300 And the way that big data is being used by universities by 1377 01:23:27,330 --> 01:23:30,240 the private sector as well as by government. We know there's a 1378 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,590 complicated issue, technology is changing rapidly, from sensors 1379 01:23:34,590 --> 01:23:36,450 all around us to the ability 1380 01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:42,630 sensors all around us. He doesn't know something I don't 1381 01:23:42,630 --> 01:23:45,750 new sensors all around nology 1382 01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:49,500 is changing rapidly, from sensors all around us to the 1383 01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:55,290 ability of companies and government to analyse and look 1384 01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:58,920 at vast volumes of data. If you're watching this video, I 1385 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,830 know that that you're interacting with technology. 1386 01:24:02,820 --> 01:24:06,180 Hey, John, he knows we're interacting with technology 1387 01:24:06,180 --> 01:24:08,400 because we're watching this video 1388 01:24:08,430 --> 01:24:13,110 all the time, shopping online carrying a cell phone you 1389 01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:13,830 visited you 1390 01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:18,600 know, I'm sorry. I no longer carry us. So cell phone. If for 1391 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,000 exactly the reason of douchebags like you. 1392 01:24:21,150 --> 01:24:25,080 Do. I know that that you're interacting with technology all 1393 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:29,610 the time, shopping online, carrying a cell phone, you 1394 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:34,050 visited your doctor who's using electronic records. So we'd like 1395 01:24:34,050 --> 01:24:38,250 to hear from you on the question of what are the technologies or 1396 01:24:38,250 --> 01:24:41,520 uses of big data that you think are going to be the most 1397 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,790 transformative to the way you live and work? Is there one 1398 01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:48,450 technology in particular that gives you pause? I know this is 1399 01:24:48,450 --> 01:24:52,110 a big topic, but we really would like to hear from you. So go to 1400 01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:57,330 whitehouse.gov/big data and let us know what you think. We'll be 1401 01:24:57,330 --> 01:25:00,000 gathering a lot of different comments and you could expect 1402 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,480 like to hear back from us as this process proceeds. Thanks 1403 01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:06,600 for taking the time to listen to this. And I hope you'll go to 1404 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:07,260 the website. 1405 01:25:10,590 --> 01:25:14,520 Now, wow. So what this means to me if you could go to 1406 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:19,500 whitehouse.gov/big data, which by the way, no one can really 1407 01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:23,670 explain what big data is other than a big a big collection of 1408 01:25:23,670 --> 01:25:30,510 data. What essentially is going to happen here is, well, we 1409 01:25:30,510 --> 01:25:31,470 asked everybody 1410 01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:35,520 Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the good old. That's the great bit. 1411 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,390 Nobody said had any complaints about all this privacy stuff, 1412 01:25:39,420 --> 01:25:47,280 see whitehouse.gov/big? Data? Okay, let's see, there's a 1413 01:25:47,310 --> 01:25:49,620 there's a survey, apparently, John, when we made it, we'd like 1414 01:25:49,620 --> 01:25:52,500 taking these surveys from time to time. Oh, my God. Have you 1415 01:25:52,500 --> 01:25:55,140 seen this? Oh, my goodness. The wing there. Now. The President 1416 01:25:55,140 --> 01:26:00,030 looking all pensive. This? The President is thinking about, 1417 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:01,920 he's thinking about your privacy. 1418 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,660 But that's Obama too. 1419 01:26:05,070 --> 01:26:08,700 He's leaving, he is clearly thinking about my privacy right 1420 01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:13,170 there. looking off into the sunset, we want to hear your 1421 01:26:13,170 --> 01:26:16,800 opinion. Okay. How much do you trust these institutions with 1422 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,030 your data? commercial business? None? Not at all. Only a little 1423 01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:24,900 some? Not at all. Not at all. academic or research 1424 01:26:24,900 --> 01:26:29,790 institutions? Not at all at all. professional practices, legal or 1425 01:26:29,790 --> 01:26:30,960 medical services? 1426 01:26:31,410 --> 01:26:33,690 I would say only a little liberal 1427 01:26:34,140 --> 01:26:40,350 intelligence agencies. There's no selection. Not at all. Is 1428 01:26:40,350 --> 01:26:42,510 that what you're choosing? Yeah, not at all law enforcement 1429 01:26:42,510 --> 01:26:46,800 agencies? Not at all. Government agencies like the Census Bureau 1430 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,030 or the Postal Service? 1431 01:26:48,990 --> 01:26:51,690 I actually trust them a lot. Give him a little Yeah, I'm 1432 01:26:51,690 --> 01:26:52,680 gonna give him some watch 1433 01:26:52,860 --> 01:26:55,680 some water only a little Oh, someone wow. Oh, you you're 1434 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,620 gonna scan state and local agencies? 1435 01:27:00,270 --> 01:27:03,690 Do you know this depends on what he would just say only? Not at 1436 01:27:03,690 --> 01:27:07,380 all? Not at all. Okay. Not at all. How much do these types of 1437 01:27:07,380 --> 01:27:11,460 data collection concern you video or audio auto audio? When 1438 01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:15,150 I think audio data, not at all concerned? Only little concern 1439 01:27:15,180 --> 01:27:17,760 somewhat concerned very concerned me to 1440 01:27:18,060 --> 01:27:21,690 location data. I'm very concerned telecommunications 1441 01:27:21,690 --> 01:27:26,160 data very concerned online data profile browsing history 1442 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:30,300 content, very concerned. How much do the following data 1443 01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:34,020 practices concern you collection of data very concerned as 1444 01:27:34,050 --> 01:27:38,430 correlation and or sharing of data? Very concerned. Storage 1445 01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:41,670 and or security of data? Very concerned. transparency about 1446 01:27:41,670 --> 01:27:45,000 the collection of data? Oh, not concerned at all? Very 1447 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,240 concerned. legal standards and or oversight of the collection 1448 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:48,330 of 1449 01:27:48,330 --> 01:27:51,510 data. But anyway, this one's a trick. Yeah, be careful. 1450 01:27:51,690 --> 01:27:52,650 Oops. legal 1451 01:27:52,650 --> 01:27:53,880 standards standards. 1452 01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:56,340 And I'm very concerned about that. I'm very concerned about 1453 01:27:56,340 --> 01:27:59,730 that. Yeah, I am to which technologies or uses of data are 1454 01:27:59,730 --> 01:28:03,090 most transforming your day to day life? Now this is a film 1455 01:28:03,090 --> 01:28:05,340 that in question, were you gonna put best podcast in the 1456 01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:06,000 universe? 1457 01:28:08,010 --> 01:28:09,210 Yeah, actually, yeah. 1458 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,880 No agenda show.com. 1459 01:28:12,330 --> 01:28:15,270 No. Agenda show. 1460 01:28:15,420 --> 01:28:19,050 That concerns me the most. But is there anything else you'd 1461 01:28:19,050 --> 01:28:23,190 like to tell us about your thoughts on the issue? Yes. Fuck 1462 01:28:23,220 --> 01:28:28,440 off and die. And read our privacy policy. Should we read 1463 01:28:28,440 --> 01:28:34,110 that real quick? Let's see what happens. Note, we're updating 1464 01:28:34,110 --> 01:28:37,950 the White House privacy policy? Oh, my goodness. Can you believe 1465 01:28:37,950 --> 01:28:41,340 this? They're so concerned about privacy. But right on their 1466 01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:44,460 privacy policy, they say we're updating the White House privacy 1467 01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:47,340 policy, the new policy will go into effect April 18. and can be 1468 01:28:47,340 --> 01:28:52,170 seen here. So what do I do? Do I do? Do I agree with this one? Or 1469 01:28:52,170 --> 01:28:53,100 would the new one? 1470 01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:56,010 No, no, you don't agree with any of them? It seems. So what's 1471 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,200 what's the picture on the website? You've agreed? Let's 1472 01:28:58,230 --> 01:29:00,990 let's look at the new one. We're updating the power and here it 1473 01:29:00,990 --> 01:29:03,840 is. See that existing policy here. You can go back? No, we 1474 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,090 don't want to go back. You see when you provide it Whitehouse. 1475 01:29:06,090 --> 01:29:09,660 gov that a DA, how's this information us sharing of this 1476 01:29:09,660 --> 01:29:13,020 information, data retention? Security, let's jump in and look 1477 01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:16,140 at that. We take right reasonable precautions, whatever 1478 01:29:16,140 --> 01:29:16,800 that means. 1479 01:29:18,780 --> 01:29:22,470 So they collect they collect information about your computer 1480 01:29:22,470 --> 01:29:25,350 or mobile setup type of web browser operating system screen 1481 01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:30,030 resolution connection speed, the pages you visit the internet, or 1482 01:29:30,030 --> 01:29:33,690 URL that you connect it to from our site, the amount of data 1483 01:29:33,690 --> 01:29:37,500 transmitted Oh, I don't want to overuse my allotment. 1484 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,640 Now, when we filled out this survey, this was 1485 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,910 seems a pretty pretty standard don't see anything crazy here. 1486 01:29:45,570 --> 01:29:47,910 On Twitter, the White House automatically archives tweets 1487 01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:50,520 from official White House accounts. They have 1488 01:29:50,850 --> 01:29:54,960 slavery why this is redundant. The Library of Congress is 1489 01:29:54,990 --> 01:29:59,190 archiving all the tweets Yeah. Why are they wasting our money? 1490 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,150 I don't know. But let's see if they share. Will they share any 1491 01:30:03,150 --> 01:30:06,450 of our income? Screw it. Okay. I'll take out the fuck off and 1492 01:30:06,450 --> 01:30:08,610 die. Maybe that's not a good thing to put in there. Now. 1493 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,160 Anything else you'd like to track down the door about your 1494 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:19,530 thoughts on the issue? Yes, I put not record Kooten submit. 1495 01:30:19,890 --> 01:30:22,590 And usually you could also put legalise marijuana, which I 1496 01:30:22,590 --> 01:30:23,190 think most people 1497 01:30:23,460 --> 01:30:26,730 too late I already submitted. Alright, let's see what I get 1498 01:30:26,730 --> 01:30:27,210 back. 1499 01:30:27,540 --> 01:30:30,570 You get nothing back. Oh, that's lane. You don't even 1500 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,970 they send me right back to the survey. Yeah, do it again. Now. 1501 01:30:36,660 --> 01:30:39,600 That's I mean, hello web 101 1502 01:30:39,930 --> 01:30:43,770 Yeah, it and you know, the 9093 call and we want all your 1503 01:30:43,770 --> 01:30:45,840 answers went right. Yeah. Into 1504 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,810 the bit bucket. No one gives a crap about my answers. Gotta be 1505 01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:50,790 obviously, 1506 01:30:51,480 --> 01:30:54,000 you can take a look at with the Google you can look at the or 1507 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,750 the Firefox you can look at the at the code to see if they 1508 01:30:57,750 --> 01:31:01,560 actually save any of this stuff. Oh, honey, it's just sways the 1509 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:02,100 dummies. 1510 01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:04,290 And interesting. 1511 01:31:04,470 --> 01:31:06,630 I got an ask Adam today. Well, I 1512 01:31:06,630 --> 01:31:09,420 was going to continue on the Snowden thing. But if you want 1513 01:31:09,420 --> 01:31:13,500 to interrupt. Oh, no. We're gonna go back to Snowden. Well, 1514 01:31:13,530 --> 01:31:16,950 well, there's more on this this particular topic. 1515 01:31:17,490 --> 01:31:20,310 Yeah, there's ask Adam has something to do with this. Okay. 1516 01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:23,370 Do I just play this now? Or what do I know? No, no, no setups 1517 01:31:23,370 --> 01:31:27,090 needed left and right. You don't even know what I'm asking you to 1518 01:31:27,090 --> 01:31:27,930 ask you first. 1519 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,140 Well, no, I don't. But I have three ask Adam was 1520 01:31:31,170 --> 01:31:34,470 just called Who do you think this is? I want you to identify 1521 01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:37,830 or try to guess who this person is? 1522 01:31:38,820 --> 01:31:42,060 Well, should I know you know if you're gonna do this? No, no, 1523 01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:42,540 no, no. 1524 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:43,800 It's gonna be good. 1525 01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:47,460 I need a jingle. I need to do my jingle. Oh, yeah. I can't do my 1526 01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:49,410 jingle. Yeah, play the jingle. 1527 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:50,430 Whichever one you want to play. 1528 01:31:50,460 --> 01:31:53,190 I don't know. I can't even it's not even switching. It's like, I 1529 01:31:53,190 --> 01:31:55,230 don't even have a jingle anymore. 1530 01:31:56,430 --> 01:31:57,150 Your jingle? 1531 01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:58,650 Here's a jingle. 1532 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,760 Hey, that's short and sweet. I like cut, you're gonna have to 1533 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,340 tell me if this guy What do you think this guy is? You think 1534 01:32:08,340 --> 01:32:12,690 he's a government? Guy? I think he's a private sector, guy, NGO? 1535 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,930 Whatever it is he educated this. 1536 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,620 I want a business multiple choice. Do I have a boy, you can 1537 01:32:19,620 --> 01:32:22,260 just ramble after you hear the if I want you to hear the guy. 1538 01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:25,470 He's an apologist. That's and I'll tell you where he spoke 1539 01:32:25,470 --> 01:32:26,400 after you hear it. 1540 01:32:26,490 --> 01:32:29,730 But I should say, amount of time and effort in order to ensure 1541 01:32:29,730 --> 01:32:34,620 that we that we protect our privacy and beyond that privacy 1542 01:32:34,620 --> 01:32:38,610 of citizens around the world. It's not just Americans. You 1543 01:32:38,610 --> 01:32:41,070 know, several, several things come into play here. First, 1544 01:32:41,190 --> 01:32:44,760 we're all on the same network. My communications, I'm a I'm a 1545 01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,780 user of a particular Internet email service, that is the 1546 01:32:48,780 --> 01:32:52,770 number one email service of choice by terrorists around the 1547 01:32:52,770 --> 01:32:56,070 world number one, and so I'm there right beside them in an 1548 01:32:56,070 --> 01:33:01,770 email space in the internet. And so we need to be able to pick 1549 01:33:01,770 --> 01:33:05,070 out a part and find the, the information that's relevant. 1550 01:33:05,460 --> 01:33:09,060 By the way, stop, stop. I just want to point out that this is 1551 01:33:09,060 --> 01:33:13,020 the connection he had to this conference, that he 1552 01:33:13,140 --> 01:33:15,990 did this, this highly this highly compressed crap. It's 1553 01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:16,260 just 1554 01:33:16,260 --> 01:33:18,840 I don't know what it just it's a crappy connection. But here he 1555 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:22,800 is. And he continues, and so he's, he's phoning it in. Well, 1556 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,650 he's got his image, he's got pictures. It's like Skype with 1557 01:33:25,650 --> 01:33:30,300 the photo. So Skype, Skype with a video, it's a Hangout could be 1558 01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:30,810 a hang up. 1559 01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:36,780 In doing so we're going to necessarily encounter Americans 1560 01:33:36,780 --> 01:33:39,120 and innocent foreign citizens who are just going about their 1561 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,120 business. And so we have procedures in place that treads 1562 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,390 that out that says, okay, when you find that not if you find it 1563 01:33:45,390 --> 01:33:47,610 when you find it, because you're starting to find it, here's how 1564 01:33:47,610 --> 01:33:50,700 you protect that these are called minimization procedures, 1565 01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:53,790 they're approved by the Attorney General and constitutionally 1566 01:33:53,790 --> 01:34:00,300 based. And so we protect those and then for for people, you 1567 01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:02,970 know, citizens of the world who are going about their lawful 1568 01:34:02,970 --> 01:34:06,510 business on a day to day basis, the President and so on 17 1569 01:34:06,510 --> 01:34:09,810 January speech laid out some additional protections that we 1570 01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:13,170 are providing to them. So I think absolutely, folks, do you 1571 01:34:13,170 --> 01:34:14,250 have a right to privacy? 1572 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:20,400 First of all, he's a lawyer. And I'm going to say that he is 1573 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:26,010 either a lawyer for I'm gonna say he's a lawyer for a 1574 01:34:26,010 --> 01:34:27,090 technology company. 1575 01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:31,710 He's very poorly spoken, I thought, yes, saying, oh, and 1576 01:34:31,710 --> 01:34:34,140 da, and all the rest of it all along. And the connection was 1577 01:34:34,140 --> 01:34:37,260 crap, which kind of I think the connection is kind of a giveaway 1578 01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:40,530 of what this guy who this guy is. So let's do the revelant 1579 01:34:40,530 --> 01:34:42,360 reveal. Let's do the big reveal here. 1580 01:34:43,470 --> 01:34:44,370 Number two, 1581 01:34:45,090 --> 01:34:47,400 let's see what's Adam answer? That would be the one. 1582 01:34:48,060 --> 01:34:50,880 That's the Deputy Director of the National Security Agency 1583 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,870 Rick legit, giving a TED talk actually from Fort Meade, 1584 01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:59,970 Maryland, in response to Edward Snowden, his TED talk this week. 1585 01:35:00,269 --> 01:35:04,559 He's a Google headquarters. He's from NSA. Yeah. So I win. 1586 01:35:04,620 --> 01:35:08,580 Hey, okay, I'll give you that. Just because it's 1587 01:35:08,580 --> 01:35:13,170 funny. He was doing a Hangout hang out. Was the 1588 01:35:13,170 --> 01:35:15,060 connection the best connection? Wow. 1589 01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:18,180 Our is our is our guys are good, aren't they? 1590 01:35:18,809 --> 01:35:21,539 That's the connection. And that's the guy's the and he's 1591 01:35:21,539 --> 01:35:24,839 not even Well spoken. And he's the second guy in command. Did 1592 01:35:24,839 --> 01:35:24,989 he? 1593 01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:27,839 Did he say that? Let me just go back to something here. Hold on 1594 01:35:27,839 --> 01:35:31,379 a second. I just want to go back. Let me see if I can reload 1595 01:35:31,379 --> 01:35:35,729 this guy up. Maybe I should. Maybe I should open it up here. 1596 01:35:35,729 --> 01:35:42,299 He said something, which is kind of weird. Hold on. I think was 1597 01:35:42,299 --> 01:35:47,519 near the end. Let me just scroll windows, a condo. Here. 1598 01:35:47,730 --> 01:35:51,030 These are called minimization procedures. They're approved by 1599 01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:54,270 the Attorney General and constitutionally based. And so 1600 01:35:54,270 --> 01:36:00,210 we protect those and then for for people, you know, citizens 1601 01:36:00,210 --> 01:36:00,810 of the world, 1602 01:36:01,019 --> 01:36:05,159 citizens of the world. Can we now be citizens of the world 1603 01:36:05,159 --> 01:36:10,079 suddenly? Where's this world I sign up to? That's interesting, 1604 01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:14,849 but can I get much work? Can I get my world passport? That's 1605 01:36:14,849 --> 01:36:18,329 how they that's how the night that's how they think 1606 01:36:18,359 --> 01:36:20,969 douchebags. All right. And then we have a third one. 1607 01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:25,170 No, no. Oh, that's Oh, yeah. This is just the kind of the 1608 01:36:25,170 --> 01:36:30,210 continue Wait, this is a this is part. They had this guy salticid 1609 01:36:30,210 --> 01:36:33,240 who's who's taken over Greenwald or do that ever the guy was I 1610 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,510 was writing for The Washington Post about Snowden. And he's 1611 01:36:36,510 --> 01:36:40,890 discussing this minimization thing, and points out a couple 1612 01:36:40,890 --> 01:36:43,410 of factors. That is, it might play into what you're going to 1613 01:36:43,410 --> 01:36:47,280 bring up next. But you can play it in your response to this ash 1614 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:47,730 consult. 1615 01:36:48,780 --> 01:36:51,360 With the fact that he gave a tech talk is amazing on a number 1616 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:56,100 of levels. Amazing on a number of levels. But going to the kind 1617 01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,080 of substance of his of who is this 1618 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:02,880 guy who is this guy? This is the reporter for The Washington Post 1619 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,390 who took over this the oldest Snowden leak stories took over 1620 01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:10,170 from Barton Gellman Yeah, apparently this guy the he seems 1621 01:37:10,170 --> 01:37:14,640 like the lead guy. This guy said he's sick. He's a dick. He's 1622 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,010 worried anybody Washington Post Hello, 1623 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,490 anybody who says the fact that the we were graced by the 1624 01:37:20,490 --> 01:37:23,910 presence through a Google Hangout of someone from the NSA 1625 01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:29,730 at a TED talk was so amazing on so many levels. Whoa, what 1626 01:37:29,730 --> 01:37:33,630 levels could what are the levels levels, your response 1627 01:37:33,630 --> 01:37:33,750 to 1628 01:37:35,730 --> 01:37:38,370 the fact that he gave a TED talk is amazing on a number of 1629 01:37:38,370 --> 01:37:42,510 levels. But going to the kind of substance of his of his of his 1630 01:37:42,510 --> 01:37:45,720 speech there. One thing to realise is, in fact, yes, the 1631 01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:50,160 NSA does employ minimization procedures when they encounter 1632 01:37:50,220 --> 01:37:53,970 US persons information, for example, in bulk surveillance, 1633 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,780 if they are to discover that voice communications or email 1634 01:37:57,780 --> 01:38:01,380 communications belong to an American, and they've determined 1635 01:38:01,380 --> 01:38:05,520 that it is not a foreign intelligence or other stuff. 1636 01:38:06,630 --> 01:38:08,670 Okay, this is the reason I want to clip nuts for you to 1637 01:38:08,670 --> 01:38:14,760 ridiculous guy. It would he and Namie doesn't pick this up. 1638 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,940 Nobody picks this up. But what he's about to describe he has 1639 01:38:17,940 --> 01:38:22,560 two points to make. One is that they will minimise the your 1640 01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:23,700 stuff is that 1641 01:38:23,730 --> 01:38:26,700 does that mean you they click on the middle box with a little 1642 01:38:26,700 --> 01:38:27,480 line in it? 1643 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,360 I don't know what they do, when they don't do anything really. 1644 01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:34,590 But that they supposed to. But when he discusses what they keep 1645 01:38:34,590 --> 01:38:38,460 the stuff for? says to do you remember when this all began? 1646 01:38:38,670 --> 01:38:41,940 Yeah, it was about what was the main topic it seemed to be 1647 01:38:41,940 --> 01:38:46,950 about? I think terrorism. It was about terrorism. Yes. And 1648 01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:49,830 everybody was a little upset about Well, this was this is 1649 01:38:49,830 --> 01:38:52,080 what the FBI and these guys have always wanted to do was just do 1650 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:56,520 a dragnet, yes, let's just have illegal wiretaps on everybody. 1651 01:38:56,940 --> 01:38:59,220 And we just listen in and if there's anything that's 1652 01:38:59,370 --> 01:39:02,880 it's called retro, it's not there's not it's they just want 1653 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,640 to have everything. So and this was your point, you made it 1654 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:10,410 early on, have everything store everything, collects upstream 1655 01:39:10,410 --> 01:39:14,100 collection of everything. And if at a certain point, Dvorak 1656 01:39:14,100 --> 01:39:19,890 doesn't pay his parking tickets, so let's pull his file. And then 1657 01:39:19,890 --> 01:39:23,670 we go and listen to all of the all of your conversations. Me 1658 01:39:23,670 --> 01:39:26,880 Me, I really need to finish the book. 1659 01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:36,330 Please listen to John's conversations, please. Alright, 1660 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:37,680 here we go. And that is not 1661 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:41,640 a foreign intelligence or other kind of national security 1662 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,210 interests. Right. So thing they under counterterrorism Counter 1663 01:39:45,210 --> 01:39:48,690 Narcotics May I think in that speech, he describes human 1664 01:39:48,690 --> 01:39:52,140 trafficking. He describes, you know, money laundering, there's 1665 01:39:52,140 --> 01:39:56,940 a number of kind of missions that the data could become 1666 01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,340 useful for. But if it's determined that it's a US 1667 01:39:59,340 --> 01:40:02,070 person, and it's not viable for any of those broad missions. 1668 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,530 Then there is minimization in place. Yeah. 1669 01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,770 Which we know is a lie, which we know is a lie because you have 1670 01:40:07,770 --> 01:40:12,090 the abouts collection, which we, which was very clearly this 1671 01:40:12,150 --> 01:40:15,750 watch. Hey, whoever who Bezos give me Bezos on the phone 1672 01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:19,770 Hello. Bezos, where the hell was Bezos? Yeah. Hello? Hello. 1673 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:25,980 Bezos. Yeah, you got to do the laugh. Hey, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, 1674 01:40:26,010 --> 01:40:28,800 you got this new guy who's in for Barton Gellman over there at 1675 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,860 your Washington Post property, the thing you bought for 250 1676 01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:36,000 That guy's a dick. And he doesn't understand that if you 1677 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:41,850 put bad guy@gmail.com or terrorist@yahoo.com in an email 1678 01:40:41,850 --> 01:40:45,810 that then you can also be spied on by the agency. Could you 1679 01:40:45,810 --> 01:40:49,110 please tell him that or fire him or I don't know. Do something 1680 01:40:49,110 --> 01:40:49,830 about that. 1681 01:40:50,130 --> 01:40:51,810 Sounds like he's doing his job to me. 1682 01:40:52,830 --> 01:40:55,500 Jeff, your voice got all kind of authoritative. What happened to 1683 01:40:55,500 --> 01:40:56,820 the wimpy with the stupid laughs 1684 01:40:59,820 --> 01:41:03,600 Yeah, and I he also this guy points out that they kind of 1685 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,960 another gotcha besides the, you know, bad guy or me sending you 1686 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,600 an email with the guy's name. Yeah. Which I think is a great 1687 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,410 gimmick is that apparently invoices aren't as obvious to 1688 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:17,490 that all the Google stuff is replicated around the world. So 1689 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,240 they they can go they just essentially go to the server in 1690 01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:23,790 Iceland I didn't know they had one there but they do and just 1691 01:41:23,790 --> 01:41:25,800 take it from there and it's legal there's no problem they're 1692 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,940 not trading on any American products or servers. Exactly. So 1693 01:41:29,940 --> 01:41:33,180 they got all this stuff is stupid. By the way we're putting 1694 01:41:33,180 --> 01:41:34,080 up with this as a 1695 01:41:34,170 --> 01:41:38,490 blogger putting up with it. I have I don't use Gmail. I do not 1696 01:41:38,490 --> 01:41:40,440 use the Google and I got a 1697 01:41:41,309 --> 01:41:44,789 broader sense. I don't use I use Gmail for one thing to send me 1698 01:41:44,789 --> 01:41:47,099 clips to send you clips. And 1699 01:41:49,110 --> 01:41:52,530 yes, everyone I do think is very funny when you send me an email 1700 01:41:52,530 --> 01:41:56,730 and Add at the bottom. Hey, how about that bad guy at@google.com 1701 01:41:57,180 --> 01:42:01,740 Everyone sitting by email with a terrorist@gmail.com That guy's 1702 01:42:01,740 --> 01:42:07,170 shit. Yeah, thanks. So I now get all these boots split a bunch of 1703 01:42:07,650 --> 01:42:10,560 Arabic in his email that you sent him and they'll do the 1704 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:10,980 trick. 1705 01:42:11,519 --> 01:42:16,619 So here's what to do you recall the department department that 1706 01:42:16,619 --> 01:42:20,909 is a foreign to the Department of Defence has a blogger they 1707 01:42:20,909 --> 01:42:25,769 have armed with science blogger, and she did that really creepy 1708 01:42:25,769 --> 01:42:31,769 interview with Kaiser Alexander. Right. You remember with the 1709 01:42:31,769 --> 01:42:33,419 creepy music and everything? 1710 01:42:34,290 --> 01:42:37,440 Yes, I vaguely remember. Right. So she's back. 1711 01:42:38,370 --> 01:42:43,260 And she has? Yes, and she has a new creepy video complete with 1712 01:42:43,260 --> 01:42:48,240 creepy intro. In fact, I'll just play the intro. This is the 1713 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:52,230 National Security Agency part of the defence department. Part of 1714 01:42:52,230 --> 01:42:55,770 the United States military coup put this out. 1715 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,410 In January of 2014, President Obama announced several 1716 01:43:04,410 --> 01:43:07,410 initiatives to give the public greater confidence in the 1717 01:43:07,410 --> 01:43:11,070 oversight of several national security agency programmes. 1718 01:43:16,500 --> 01:43:19,860 The creation of a full time civil liberties and privacy 1719 01:43:19,860 --> 01:43:22,140 officer was among the reforms cited 1720 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:32,670 seven weeks ago, Mikey Richards became the official civil 1721 01:43:32,670 --> 01:43:35,640 liberties and privacy officer for the NSA 1722 01:43:43,470 --> 01:43:45,060 how creepy is that? 1723 01:43:45,090 --> 01:43:45,900 Can you slow 1724 01:43:45,900 --> 01:43:50,610 that down? No. So I tried this multiple times. And it just I 1725 01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:54,420 tried to be any creepy or No, it doesn't make it creepy. Or this 1726 01:43:54,420 --> 01:43:57,810 is you don't it's an unnecessary. And this is their 1727 01:43:57,810 --> 01:44:03,330 music. It's how the video begins and how it ends with that is 1728 01:44:03,330 --> 01:44:04,200 that I mean, 1729 01:44:05,010 --> 01:44:07,170 these guys are lost. They're lost. 1730 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:11,730 These guys are insane. John, they are fucking insane. This 1731 01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:16,830 they are they're whacking off to this crazy shit. Anyway, so this 1732 01:44:16,830 --> 01:44:22,110 is interview with Becky Richards, who before she was 1733 01:44:22,110 --> 01:44:26,520 hired for this was a Senior Director for privacy at the 1734 01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:31,020 Department of Homeland Security. After a rigorous and rank the 1735 01:44:31,020 --> 01:44:34,620 interview process, I've selected an expert whose background will 1736 01:44:34,620 --> 01:44:37,230 bring additional perspectives and insight to our foreign 1737 01:44:37,230 --> 01:44:40,920 intelligence activities. That's what to Kaiser Alexander said. 1738 01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,820 So I've pulled a couple clips from this interview, which I 1739 01:44:44,820 --> 01:44:47,790 think are very relevant. The first one is she's going to 1740 01:44:47,790 --> 01:44:53,070 explain what her job is. And this woman is so drugged out. 1741 01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:58,140 She can't even explain her job in the event. No, you'll hear 1742 01:44:58,140 --> 01:45:05,040 she go Oh, She's waiting for the programming to kick in. 1743 01:45:09,630 --> 01:45:12,960 So it's a new position that was announced back in August by the 1744 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:21,270 President. And the My job is to advise the director as well as 1745 01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:23,790 the entire agency on how to build privacy and civil 1746 01:45:23,790 --> 01:45:27,960 liberties considerations into all the NSA does. Now, it's a 1747 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,840 new position at NSA, but throughout the federal 1748 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:34,170 government, there are a number of positions. So there's privacy 1749 01:45:34,170 --> 01:45:36,660 officer and civil liberties and privacy officer positions 1750 01:45:36,660 --> 01:45:40,230 throughout so the concept is not unusual or new. That's been a 1751 01:45:40,620 --> 01:45:43,380 privacy procession has been growing for the last 15 years or 1752 01:45:43,380 --> 01:45:43,650 so. 1753 01:45:44,010 --> 01:45:47,580 Please, again, note the music that is put under this interview 1754 01:45:47,580 --> 01:45:51,150 because God forbid we just listened to her talk and with 1755 01:45:51,150 --> 01:45:54,480 her mouth open when she's trying to explain her job, and she 1756 01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:58,800 flutters with her eyes. Oh, she's fluttering? Yeah, she's 1757 01:45:58,800 --> 01:45:59,730 closing her eyes. 1758 01:45:59,730 --> 01:46:00,450 She's full of crap. 1759 01:46:00,450 --> 01:46:02,940 Yes, she's closing her eyes and fluttering, trying to remember 1760 01:46:02,940 --> 01:46:08,250 what her job is. But wait, she's now going to tell us because 1761 01:46:08,250 --> 01:46:11,250 this is really her to her job really, is to be a PR spokes 1762 01:46:11,250 --> 01:46:14,880 hole for the agency and some figurehead because she is Annie. 1763 01:46:14,910 --> 01:46:21,150 She's the Chief Privacy Officer. She's now going to explain how 1764 01:46:21,150 --> 01:46:26,580 privacy and respect for civil liberty is really embedded in 1765 01:46:26,580 --> 01:46:31,080 the agency John, and she has a, an analogy for it, which just 1766 01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:35,520 makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over again, Music provided by 1767 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:37,200 your National Security Agency. 1768 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:41,430 Yeah. And so it's interesting. So I've been at NSA for about 1769 01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:44,580 six weeks now. And from certainly what you read in the 1770 01:46:44,610 --> 01:46:47,430 newspapers, it sounds like there aren't a lot of protections in 1771 01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:49,740 place. But I've been really impressed by what are the 1772 01:46:49,740 --> 01:46:52,380 existing privacy assembly protections that are in place. 1773 01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,610 The agency is extraordinarily it has a culture of great 1774 01:46:56,610 --> 01:46:58,920 compliance. And so if you tell people what it is they're 1775 01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,920 supposed to do, they're absolutely doing it. As I like 1776 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:05,250 to say that, it seems that their compliance is in their veins, 1777 01:47:05,250 --> 01:47:07,860 they really understand what it means to protect privacy. 1778 01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:09,030 Compliance is 1779 01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:13,710 in their veins. They really know what it is to protect people's 1780 01:47:13,710 --> 01:47:18,840 privacy. You see what this is turning into right now. And 1781 01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:25,290 you'll hear it now. Is the National Security Agency, they 1782 01:47:25,290 --> 01:47:28,710 protect your privacy and civil liberties. Do you see the wonder 1783 01:47:28,710 --> 01:47:33,120 where this is going? This is the change. Oh, I like it. And 1784 01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,910 you'll hear hers and her job. Actually, this is a real job 1785 01:47:35,910 --> 01:47:36,480 description. 1786 01:47:36,510 --> 01:47:40,050 Some of my job is helping to translate what it is the agency 1787 01:47:40,050 --> 01:47:43,290 is doing now to protect privacy and civil liberties. And then 1788 01:47:43,290 --> 01:47:48,570 also to work on a going forward basis to build privacy into new 1789 01:47:48,570 --> 01:47:51,510 technologies and make sure that we're considering it and that 1790 01:47:51,510 --> 01:47:53,670 we're documenting what those considerations Okay, 1791 01:47:54,030 --> 01:47:57,120 so this warrants a little little we have to stop here for a 1792 01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:03,270 second part of her job is translating to the stupid, low 1793 01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:09,150 shitness and read the cannon fodder to useless eaters 1794 01:48:10,440 --> 01:48:14,400 translating to them, because I guess we don't speak your 1795 01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:19,200 language, that we are protecting your privacy and civil 1796 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:23,610 liberties. Listen, again, with those years I just put on you 1797 01:48:23,730 --> 01:48:27,300 some of my job is helping to translate what it is the agency 1798 01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:29,940 is doing now to protect privacy and civil liberties 1799 01:48:29,970 --> 01:48:33,900 translating what the agency is doing now to protect privacy and 1800 01:48:33,900 --> 01:48:37,920 civil liberties. Thank you. Thank you, I feel much safer 1801 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:44,100 now. Much, much safer. And now, we're going to talk about how we 1802 01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:47,670 really are protecting your privacy. But we won't really 1803 01:48:47,670 --> 01:48:48,870 show it for a little while, 1804 01:48:48,900 --> 01:48:51,600 I want to ensure that we build privacy and civil liberties 1805 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:56,130 considerations into what the agency does, and ensure that the 1806 01:48:56,130 --> 01:48:59,040 right people are making the right decisions as it relates to 1807 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,670 those assessments. And so identifying where we can work 1808 01:49:02,670 --> 01:49:06,930 within existing processes to build those assessments in and 1809 01:49:06,930 --> 01:49:10,170 build off of existing work that's happening there so that a 1810 01:49:10,170 --> 01:49:14,010 year or three years or five years from now, we're able to 1811 01:49:14,010 --> 01:49:16,770 comfortably demonstrate what it is we're doing. There's a lot of 1812 01:49:16,770 --> 01:49:17,880 discussion about how we, 1813 01:49:18,089 --> 01:49:22,769 what is that? So we'll show you in five years from now we'll be 1814 01:49:22,769 --> 01:49:25,679 comfortable to show you what we're doing when we've all been 1815 01:49:25,679 --> 01:49:31,379 trained and and shoehorned into submission. What does this mean? 1816 01:49:32,459 --> 01:49:34,979 In five years, I want to be able to comfortably tell you what 1817 01:49:34,979 --> 01:49:35,429 we're doing 1818 01:49:35,460 --> 01:49:38,580 now. We're able to comfortably demonstrate what it is we're 1819 01:49:38,580 --> 01:49:38,970 doing 1820 01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,250 well, why not now why are you not comfortable with 1821 01:49:41,250 --> 01:49:43,230 demonstrating what you're doing right now Becky, where 1822 01:49:43,230 --> 01:49:46,950 we can work with an existing processes to build those 1823 01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:49,860 assessments and build off of existing work that's happening 1824 01:49:49,860 --> 01:49:54,270 there so that a year or three years or five years from now, 1825 01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,820 we're able to comfortably demonstrate what it is we're 1826 01:49:56,820 --> 01:49:59,100 doing. There's a lot of discussion about how we do 1827 01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:02,100 protect privacy. What I want to do is be able to demonstrate 1828 01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:04,710 that through documentation and through protections, 1829 01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:07,530 time, so there you go. In five years, she'll have the 1830 01:50:07,530 --> 01:50:12,480 documentation of how she how our privacy was protected, or 1831 01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:14,700 created, or whatever. 1832 01:50:14,820 --> 01:50:17,850 It's obviously a bogus position. Let me just her back. She's on 1833 01:50:17,850 --> 01:50:23,610 LinkedIn. Her full name is actually Rebecca. Becky Richards 1834 01:50:23,610 --> 01:50:27,660 Gore ham, Gore ham. Yeah, I can't find any reference to a 1835 01:50:27,660 --> 01:50:30,780 gore him but I bet you there is something and they don't want to 1836 01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:31,350 use that 1837 01:50:31,380 --> 01:50:34,380 geo R H. Gao H or what is he? Oh, r 1838 01:50:34,380 --> 01:50:39,120 h a m. Hmm. So she is the senior debt coordinator at Lincoln. 1839 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:44,070 She's senior privacy, blah, blah, blah. She went from she 1840 01:50:45,330 --> 01:50:47,910 was at George Washington University, from what I can tell 1841 01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:51,180 two years and didn't do anything before that. At least this is 1842 01:50:51,420 --> 01:50:53,940 the witch he has on LinkedIn. She doesn't she's not very 1843 01:50:54,750 --> 01:51:00,690 active on this, or backgrounds spook she Yeah, or something. So 1844 01:51:00,690 --> 01:51:03,360 she left George Washington University in 2000. There is 1845 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:08,370 nothing about her until 2004. Right. So from 2000 to 2004. She 1846 01:51:08,370 --> 01:51:13,680 was a bit spooked, I don't know maybe when she was just playing 1847 01:51:13,890 --> 01:51:16,620 dice on the corner. Then she went to the Department of 1848 01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:21,420 Homeland Security in 2004 to become the senior out of the 1849 01:51:21,420 --> 01:51:24,810 blue Senior Director of privacy compliance mean they don't give 1850 01:51:24,810 --> 01:51:28,980 a crap. And then she kind of went up to Director of privacy 1851 01:51:28,980 --> 01:51:32,130 compliance. This is one of those things where the when you're 1852 01:51:32,130 --> 01:51:34,830 called a senior and a junior and all the rest of it doesn't mean 1853 01:51:34,830 --> 01:51:37,590 your senior the director is the one that right. She was the 1854 01:51:37,590 --> 01:51:40,980 director until they moved her just recently to this so she 1855 01:51:40,980 --> 01:51:43,470 doesn't know anything. She's never worked a day in her life, 1856 01:51:43,470 --> 01:51:47,610 it seems to me. And she sounds that she sounds like some sort 1857 01:51:47,610 --> 01:51:50,580 of a valley dingbat two looks for the kind of people that are 1858 01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:53,430 protecting your privacy. This is like this is a this is 1859 01:51:53,430 --> 01:51:56,910 essentially the government saying, hey, yeah, okay, yeah, 1860 01:51:56,910 --> 01:51:59,880 we'll put a privacy director when we got this woman. We'll 1861 01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:04,380 just put her there that says screw you public. Screw you. We 1862 01:52:04,380 --> 01:52:06,210 don't need anyone it's actually gives her 1863 01:52:06,929 --> 01:52:11,609 work takes place within a strong legal framework. We operate 1864 01:52:11,609 --> 01:52:15,689 under the rule of law and are accountable for it. In southern 1865 01:52:15,689 --> 01:52:19,979 countries secret intelligence is used to control their people. In 1866 01:52:19,979 --> 01:52:24,809 ours. It only exists to protect their freedoms, protect their 1867 01:52:24,809 --> 01:52:28,649 freedoms, protect their freedoms, pretend to listen to 1868 01:52:28,649 --> 01:52:34,289 their their audio. That was me goofing around. This is real 14 1869 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:38,130 Real Obama announced several initiatives to give the public 1870 01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:39,150 greater confidence. 1871 01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:43,110 This is the creepiest thing I've ever heard Jhansi programmes 1872 01:52:48,570 --> 01:52:51,930 the creation of a full time civil liberties and privacy 1873 01:52:51,930 --> 01:52:52,470 officer 1874 01:52:54,150 --> 01:52:56,190 unbelievable I can't even listen to it. 1875 01:52:56,970 --> 01:53:01,320 It's privacy offers has been created for your benefit. To 1876 01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:04,170 protect us are no shirts no service to 1877 01:53:04,170 --> 01:53:09,240 protect your freedom to protect your freedom. People get off of 1878 01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:13,740 Facebook, get off of Twitter, get off of Gmail get off it 1879 01:53:15,180 --> 01:53:15,840 you'll see 1880 01:53:18,690 --> 01:53:24,600 which reminds me of a clip I have I have I decided I'm going 1881 01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:28,200 to do this regular feature someone said make a jingle it's 1882 01:53:28,230 --> 01:53:33,690 a one year ago today. I actually have two clips from one year ago 1883 01:53:33,690 --> 01:53:37,200 today because when I put these clips into my file when I looked 1884 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:40,080 for him I haven't archived the old clip so the dates are like 1885 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,810 wait a minute, oh no, that's from last year. You have 1886 01:53:42,810 --> 01:53:45,060 a file and you actually found something in it 1887 01:53:48,450 --> 01:53:53,190 so we forgot about this is also now it's become NPN media but it 1888 01:53:53,190 --> 01:53:55,740 was then called and we played this so this is one of these 1889 01:53:55,740 --> 01:53:59,190 companies and they they're very involved early on with with 1890 01:53:59,430 --> 01:54:03,000 native advertising all the rest mostly for TV. And they have 1891 01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:06,720 most of them aren't US markets. They got stations in Chicago and 1892 01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,690 New York all big ones CBS affiliates, mostly by the way 1893 01:54:09,690 --> 01:54:11,760 Yeah, because these guys came out as soon as this is a new 1894 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:15,150 remember this. 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They've got Megan Kelly. 1914 01:55:37,110 --> 01:55:40,290 They've got Ronan Ronan's a part of this outfit 1915 01:55:43,650 --> 01:55:44,700 you're looking at 1916 01:55:44,910 --> 01:55:52,860 news pro net NPN pay no attention to me all right. I do 1917 01:55:52,860 --> 01:55:58,650 remember this and they make they make bullshit news and syndicate 1918 01:55:58,650 --> 01:55:59,370 it out right 1919 01:55:59,790 --> 01:56:02,880 they don't know they Yeah 1920 01:56:04,230 --> 01:56:07,530 put me know Yes, that's it get hired 1921 01:56:07,530 --> 01:56:10,860 to do it. It's not like they just do it. Oh, okay. But like 1922 01:56:10,860 --> 01:56:14,070 hey, that's a bold crap news and put it out there. Well, no, they 1923 01:56:14,070 --> 01:56:17,550 do it for money. They do it for money for companies corporations 1924 01:56:17,550 --> 01:56:20,820 that say look we look this this we gotta get more of this 1925 01:56:20,850 --> 01:56:24,120 papilloma virus sold we got it backed up in the warehouse you 1926 01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,910 know what inventory taxes like it's horrible especially in the 1927 01:56:26,910 --> 01:56:30,030 United States. We got to move this stuff. What can you do for 1928 01:56:30,030 --> 01:56:30,300 us? 1929 01:56:30,389 --> 01:56:34,799 Let's see what they got busy they got no more TV as in kn O W 1930 01:56:34,799 --> 01:56:35,399 oh by the 1931 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:41,130 way so no more TV which says no more TV right? Is one of their 1932 01:56:41,130 --> 01:56:43,740 little outlets and I checked out that is like even more 1933 01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:45,930 frightening than the news pro net thing. 1934 01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:48,690 Let's look at their advertisers and brands. Hold on Let's see 1935 01:56:48,690 --> 01:56:53,490 who do we have advertisers brand Oh, that's just for advertisers 1936 01:56:53,490 --> 01:56:58,560 brands. No more TV en espanol and see what they have any 1937 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,950 video. Did you know Did you not clip a whole bunch of really 1938 01:57:01,950 --> 01:57:06,870 good stuff here. Live Smart? Did you be healthy no more feeling 1939 01:57:06,900 --> 01:57:12,180 off after a long flight? No more as Lucy Seagal dishes about ways 1940 01:57:12,180 --> 01:57:15,630 you can get your mind and body back in the right time zone. 1941 01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:20,310 Yeah, no, there's I just discovered this lasers 1942 01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:24,600 in the chart about China link. Once on the China link. 1943 01:57:25,230 --> 01:57:26,610 I don't even see the China 1944 01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:35,670 well get to know the Chinese in their own backyard Africa. 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I get if their clients are actually the TV stations. Yeah. 1956 01:58:16,260 --> 01:58:21,750 And then here's the OH MY Wow. Oh my Wow. What do they have in 1957 01:58:21,750 --> 01:58:26,670 the big markets? Let's see New York, they have WCC vs. La que 1958 01:58:26,670 --> 01:58:29,790 BC, Chicago. These are the people that put together the 1959 01:58:29,790 --> 01:58:30,630 packages 1960 01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:34,920 NPN picea. The package NPM 1961 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,050 puts together the package and distributes it out to their 1962 01:58:37,050 --> 01:58:37,890 clients. 1963 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,040 Right? Because this list and they run them full cloth. 1964 01:58:41,820 --> 01:58:43,380 Oh, crap, we could do this. 1965 01:58:46,050 --> 01:58:47,880 Yeah, we could. 1966 01:58:49,050 --> 01:58:51,780 You gotta think we want to you got to work on your legs though. 1967 01:58:52,530 --> 01:58:54,750 Well, I just they just need shaving 1968 01:58:56,070 --> 01:59:02,400 advocate advertising solutions. Wow. Well, you're right. This is 1969 01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,290 not something we want to do spokesperson, 1970 01:59:04,890 --> 01:59:07,440 something from the year ago that we talked about already. And I 1971 01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:10,530 want to because we have a lot of new listeners and we want to 1972 01:59:10,530 --> 01:59:15,030 revisit some of these things. And this is a good one that we 1973 01:59:15,030 --> 01:59:18,780 have to be aware that this is going on, so we don't get Wow, 1974 01:59:18,780 --> 01:59:21,540 did you see that article on how Diet Coke, you know, doesn't 1975 01:59:21,540 --> 01:59:22,440 have as much sugar. 1976 01:59:23,070 --> 01:59:26,850 Yeah, and I will say that we've received an inordinate amount of 1977 01:59:27,930 --> 01:59:31,110 emails recently from people who aren't even seeing that the 1978 01:59:31,110 --> 01:59:35,250 article they're sending us stack. I'm looking at you that 1979 01:59:35,430 --> 01:59:40,140 it's native advertising. This happens a lot. 1980 01:59:41,099 --> 01:59:44,489 No excuse. I mean, how much do we have to discuss this before 1981 01:59:44,489 --> 01:59:49,379 people start to see it for what it is the stories? Oh, well. I'm 1982 01:59:49,379 --> 01:59:52,739 gonna show my son moved by donate to no agenda. Imagine all 1983 01:59:52,739 --> 01:59:55,319 the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 1984 02:00:02,700 --> 02:00:05,280 I do a few people to think I want to thank him. But he's 1985 02:00:06,420 --> 02:00:11,490 anonymous from Colorado 120 doors in Grand Junction. He 1986 02:00:11,490 --> 02:00:14,700 wanted to it was a double $60 donation. He wanted to get on 1987 02:00:14,700 --> 02:00:18,060 the list, but he you know, he's thinks, you know that 600 is 1988 02:00:18,060 --> 02:00:23,730 over at the Mustangs we really appreciate it. Also Brian Edelen 1989 02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:28,470 in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina party town $111.11 And he wants 1990 02:00:28,470 --> 02:00:33,270 to he says when club 33 reopens please bring Dasha to the state. 1991 02:00:33,300 --> 02:00:37,080 Where does this come on? This is getting crazy you can we told 1992 02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:39,360 you all right. I know I understand that. But can we get 1993 02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:42,630 like a temporary at least for one weekend or one Thursday so 1994 02:00:42,630 --> 02:00:45,240 we can just do a couple dances ran out another club 1995 02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:47,340 and just to get these women some attention? 1996 02:00:47,460 --> 02:00:54,900 How about a warehouse or a tent? A rave? Yeah, something like 1997 02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:58,560 that. Let's do the rave I know we got the girls back dancers 1998 02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:01,770 are backed up out the door. We've got to get these girls on 1999 02:01:01,770 --> 02:01:03,390 stage. What are we gonna do in 2000 02:01:03,420 --> 02:01:06,690 girls that are okay, I'm going to try to expedite this find 2001 02:01:06,690 --> 02:01:09,750 some way around the problem. Are we just open the club illegally? 2002 02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:09,990 Who 2003 02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:12,210 cares? Exactly. Let's do it on Thursday. 2004 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:21,780 Martin felner 7777 And he is in Austria. Goalie under Salzach 2005 02:01:21,780 --> 02:01:25,890 Cousteau right? In erster. Right. You're right, you're 2006 02:01:25,890 --> 02:01:32,820 right. He does have a note I want to read he says I read the 2007 02:01:32,820 --> 02:01:36,450 last news letter decided that John deserve 10 bucks for the 2008 02:01:36,450 --> 02:01:40,530 awesomely adorable puppy picture. But then I came home 2009 02:01:40,530 --> 02:01:43,530 started listening to the show and I hear this dipshit of a 2010 02:01:43,530 --> 02:01:47,160 woman say a small black hole would suck in our entire 2011 02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:52,770 universe. Like the black hole that is maybe located the centre 2012 02:01:52,770 --> 02:01:55,770 of the Milky Way and has lots of other galaxies. What about a big 2013 02:01:55,770 --> 02:01:59,340 black hole? Then? You open her skull the entire universe are 2014 02:01:59,340 --> 02:02:03,750 totally sucked in. When you chop it off with some douchebag 2015 02:02:03,750 --> 02:02:06,450 supposing you could fly a mission missing planet across 2016 02:02:06,450 --> 02:02:09,720 half the world without being detected. I punched the wall to 2017 02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:15,570 make the mental pain go away. Sorry, I can only get so little 2018 02:02:15,570 --> 02:02:16,890 of you please save us. 2019 02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:21,870 Next donation is an interesting one. 2020 02:02:22,140 --> 02:02:27,390 Luca batata. Nick Yeah, Amsterdam 7575. Did you read 2021 02:02:27,390 --> 02:02:30,510 this one? No, it's my donation is show 601 It's also my 2022 02:02:30,510 --> 02:02:35,010 congratulations for your father's baptism. Adam. This 2023 02:02:35,010 --> 02:02:38,220 show just confirms that we're in the last days of the glorious 2024 02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:42,150 coming of our Lord. I'm inviting all no agenda Born Again 2025 02:02:42,150 --> 02:02:46,170 Christians to donate and pray for you guys. That's interest 2026 02:02:46,170 --> 02:02:46,770 and it says 2027 02:02:46,770 --> 02:02:51,060 Jesus is Lord be blessed. Good. Yeah, well, hookah. Well, thank 2028 02:02:51,060 --> 02:02:53,700 you, Luca. That's very kind of you. And at least we're going 2029 02:02:53,700 --> 02:02:54,840 out in a blaze of glory. 2030 02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:59,580 Yeah. Yeah. With that woman running homeless or whatever. 2031 02:03:00,540 --> 02:03:03,510 To protect. Protecting your freedoms. Your Practice 2032 02:03:03,660 --> 02:03:04,830 is gonna protect nothing 2033 02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:16,740 looks like Peter seduces zoo ski. in Kirkland, Washington. 2034 02:03:17,340 --> 02:03:20,790 And he is birthday shot. We have it on the list. Yeah. Jose, a 2035 02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:29,880 Bray. You in Lisbon. Took all these boy. And he's got a car. 2036 02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:32,190 Right. We'll put the end and a thank you for your courage. 2037 02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:34,680 Also, Michael Rob six. Nice extending, it's 2038 02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:36,510 not sure. I think it's Michelle. Rob. 2039 02:03:37,290 --> 02:03:40,620 What did I say my god, sorry, Michelle, my husband and 2040 02:03:40,620 --> 02:03:42,510 Michelle donates commonly. Let me 2041 02:03:43,230 --> 02:03:46,410 read her note. My husband Maria has been a dedicated listener 2042 02:03:46,410 --> 02:03:52,230 since day one. He's also made me a fan. I'm surprising him with 2043 02:03:52,230 --> 02:03:55,050 this donation. I also wanted to mention we are excited to be 2044 02:03:55,050 --> 02:03:59,100 expecting our first baby in September. We plan to raise our 2045 02:03:59,100 --> 02:04:02,190 baby with the beliefs The show has taught us. And I please have 2046 02:04:02,190 --> 02:04:05,340 some karma as I'm now getting over the morning sickness in 2047 02:04:05,370 --> 02:04:07,890 that will be in the morning sickness. And I hope to have a 2048 02:04:07,890 --> 02:04:11,250 smooth second trimester. Well, congratulations, Michelle and 2049 02:04:11,250 --> 02:04:14,550 Marie. And we got karma for you and the forthcoming human 2050 02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:16,590 resource coming up in just a little bit. And thank you very 2051 02:04:16,590 --> 02:04:17,400 much for Amon 2052 02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:27,420 Bressler Arlington, Washington. Yeah. Did he go from euro $68? 2053 02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:34,860 It says I think I know who that is. 10 Yes, cylinder cylinder. 2054 02:04:35,070 --> 02:04:39,120 It's got to be cylinder not cylinder in Montreal, Quebec 66. 2055 02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,960 She's been a listener since the two digit days. And she's 2056 02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:47,610 pursuing a PhD. 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We'll give you some karma that Pete and the 2066 02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:38,100 boys at the end Howard crowd 2067 02:05:38,130 --> 02:05:40,110 of the fabulous evil Crankbrothers 2068 02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:45,270 Crankbrothers Longmont, California T Abel and Berg 2069 02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:50,580 field, Berkshire, UK. Nice Jason Daniels. These are all $50 2070 02:05:50,580 --> 02:05:56,340 donors in Dallas, Texas, Peter Colvin, Ballymena and Antrim 2071 02:05:56,340 --> 02:06:00,450 which I believe is where's that? It's not the United States. Now 2072 02:06:00,450 --> 02:06:04,020 a kingdom sorry. Eric VT in Dublin, California up the street 2073 02:06:04,020 --> 02:06:06,900 from me David Trotsky was comes in monthly with a Wilmington 2074 02:06:06,900 --> 02:06:12,480 from Wilmington, Delaware 50 bogatin lead gen DRO across the 2075 02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:16,410 top of the check which is mailed and it's in blazed bogged in 2076 02:06:16,410 --> 02:06:20,610 lead gen drove which has got to be code for something want to 2077 02:06:20,610 --> 02:06:23,040 thank these folks and all the others who don't donate lesser 2078 02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:28,260 amounts to show 602 And remind you of 603 coming up on Thursday 2079 02:06:28,260 --> 02:06:32,340 we will probably reopen the club and nice both through the women 2080 02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:32,640 did you 2081 02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:39,060 know that appealing for donations on the internet 2082 02:06:39,690 --> 02:06:42,540 without a licence is illegal now in Finland 2083 02:06:46,710 --> 02:06:50,010 No, I didn't know that. We have two or three or four or five 2084 02:06:50,700 --> 02:06:51,870 Finnish producers. 2085 02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:58,230 Yes, all monies collected require a permit in Finland. If 2086 02:06:58,230 --> 02:07:00,390 you do it on the internet you have to so 2087 02:07:01,410 --> 02:07:03,780 well how does that work when you're not in in Finland? Oh 2088 02:07:03,780 --> 02:07:06,540 no. I don't know as long as we don't do it in Finnish I guess 2089 02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:13,200 we're okay. However, what's interesting is wiki pedia. Here 2090 02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:16,440 the National Police Board of Finland has decided not to take 2091 02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:20,730 any action against wiki pedia over its appeal for donations in 2092 02:07:20,730 --> 02:07:23,610 Finland collect the money without a permanent illegal but 2093 02:07:23,610 --> 02:07:26,220 the board has decided not to act against the online 2094 02:07:26,250 --> 02:07:30,480 encyclopaedia. And they have a reason for it. I think it's 2095 02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:38,460 because it's culturally relevant or something there's some weird 2096 02:07:38,460 --> 02:07:41,040 thing they've got going on where it's so it's okay. 2097 02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:44,640 We need clarification on this. You finished producers 2098 02:07:45,059 --> 02:07:52,109 Yeah. Do you hear an echo echo here want to know maybe he's 2099 02:07:52,109 --> 02:08:00,329 just in my head. Probably slash thank you all very much for 2100 02:08:00,329 --> 02:08:03,269 supporting the programme we really do it general karma Yeah, 2101 02:08:03,269 --> 02:08:05,549 we got some general karma for everybody who needs it. There 2102 02:08:05,549 --> 02:08:09,689 you go. You've got karma. And we got a couple of birthdays 2103 02:08:16,260 --> 02:08:19,830 birthday CJ Cabo, how he crouches Happy Birthday to Paul 2104 02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:22,350 crowd are being evil crowd brothers celebrating on the 24th 2105 02:08:22,590 --> 02:08:27,330 She says I've Sousou sneaky says Happy Birthday to Bartolo CISM 2106 02:08:27,330 --> 02:08:31,500 ski turning 33 magic numbers and Sir Daniel huttner Happy 2107 02:08:31,500 --> 02:08:35,010 birthday to his son Boyd Ellis Hunter turning two years old 2108 02:08:35,010 --> 02:08:37,800 today Happy Birthday from your buddies here the best podcast in 2109 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:44,670 the universe. And we do have I've got a black knighting This 2110 02:08:44,670 --> 02:08:50,940 is now let me see. Adam John been donating the show for the 2111 02:08:50,940 --> 02:08:54,000 past six months. I got to knighthood on episode five nine 2112 02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:57,540 or three however I was never needed. Even though the show 2113 02:08:57,540 --> 02:09:03,270 notes do list me as sir Brett Mahoney. I bug John a few times. 2114 02:09:04,950 --> 02:09:08,130 Anyway Adam I figured I'd ask you and there you go. So he will 2115 02:09:08,130 --> 02:09:10,260 be a black knight because we blew it on that one I don't know 2116 02:09:10,260 --> 02:09:13,140 how that happened. It does happen obviously when you're 2117 02:09:13,140 --> 02:09:14,970 running this huge organisation with 2118 02:09:15,929 --> 02:09:21,479 by yourself who guys to guide and dies a microphone or some 2119 02:09:21,509 --> 02:09:22,739 squirrel nuts. 2120 02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,710 Yes, indeed. So I would like to let me just grab the blade here 2121 02:09:28,710 --> 02:09:34,590 so we can do this properly if you if you can. Yeah. Okay, and 2122 02:09:34,590 --> 02:09:38,160 hit the theme perfect. Brett Mahoney and Jonathan Dennison 2123 02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:41,340 stepped forward gentlemen both of you are now going to join the 2124 02:09:41,340 --> 02:09:43,830 elite club known as the Knights and Dames of the nogen 2125 02:09:43,830 --> 02:09:47,520 roundtable and I hereby pronounce to Kate the SIR 2126 02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:51,210 Jonathan Dennison and serve Brett Mahoney Black Knights of 2127 02:09:51,210 --> 02:09:52,950 the nogen round table for you. I've 2128 02:09:52,950 --> 02:09:56,250 got whiskey and wet wipes, bad science and perky breasts 2129 02:09:56,250 --> 02:09:59,280 cannabis and carbon a hookers and blow rent boys and 2130 02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:02,460 sharpening hot pads and bows, women as women and Rosae, 2131 02:10:02,460 --> 02:10:05,430 geishas and sock a buck and vanilla, sparkling cider and 2132 02:10:05,430 --> 02:10:08,190 escorts and mutton and meat and your rings if 2133 02:10:08,190 --> 02:10:11,760 you got to know agenda nation.com/rings There you can 2134 02:10:11,790 --> 02:10:15,780 pick up your ring your ceiling wax your official piece of paper 2135 02:10:15,810 --> 02:10:19,680 that you now are licenced to go out and hit people in the mouth 2136 02:10:20,370 --> 02:10:28,440 pale. Indeed, war on men. I just would like to point out one of 2137 02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:33,660 these little one men Diddy's that is pissing me off. This, of 2138 02:10:33,660 --> 02:10:36,300 course, is another that we're into. We're getting close to 2139 02:10:36,300 --> 02:10:39,810 election season, obviously. Which means we have to do 2140 02:10:39,810 --> 02:10:43,860 everything to discredit the other guys. And the Democrat. 2141 02:10:43,890 --> 02:10:47,370 The Democratic Party is big is very, very good at this. 2142 02:10:48,330 --> 02:10:52,050 Republicans love guns, mothers of the world, you must never 2143 02:10:52,050 --> 02:10:58,410 vote for a Republican because the then we have what's the 2144 02:10:58,410 --> 02:11:00,840 other one we picked up on the other day? That was a new one? 2145 02:11:02,190 --> 02:11:05,520 Well, for sure, we know that Republicans hate women. 2146 02:11:06,299 --> 02:11:08,939 And they hate women. There's a war on when they hate women. 2147 02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:15,090 Now, the President has his little podcast, which at now, 2148 02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:17,700 we haven't seen this podcast or listen to this podcast for quite 2149 02:11:17,700 --> 02:11:18,660 some time. Yes, 2150 02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:21,330 yes. And of course, I love the podcast, because you know, we 2151 02:11:21,330 --> 02:11:23,580 always start off with in the morning and all that stuff. He 2152 02:11:23,580 --> 02:11:27,420 always starts off with Heil everybody. Now he's going to say 2153 02:11:27,420 --> 02:11:29,880 something in here. And this is another one of these statistics. 2154 02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:33,870 And the last one we debunked, which is just factually not 2155 02:11:33,870 --> 02:11:37,020 true. There's no data to back it up that we can find or that has 2156 02:11:37,020 --> 02:11:41,820 been presented to us in the hashtag Ban Bossy campaign, that 2157 02:11:41,820 --> 02:11:47,130 campaign states, women do 66% of the work, but only make 10% of 2158 02:11:47,130 --> 02:11:50,310 the money. And this is a statement that go back that goes 2159 02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:54,450 back to 1989 by some douche knuckle from an NGO and there's 2160 02:11:54,450 --> 02:11:57,510 no data to back it up, but it's just being rolled out. Have you 2161 02:11:57,510 --> 02:11:58,650 heard the new one? 2162 02:11:59,910 --> 02:12:01,020 I'm sure I will. 2163 02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:04,980 Hi, everybody. Hi, oh. This week, I visited a community 2164 02:12:04,980 --> 02:12:07,800 college in Florida, where I spoke with students about what 2165 02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:11,220 we need to do to make sure our economy rewards the hard work of 2166 02:12:11,220 --> 02:12:14,520 every American. More specifically, I spoke about 2167 02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:18,630 making sure our economy rewards the hard work of women. Okay, 2168 02:12:18,690 --> 02:12:22,110 today, women make up about half of our workforce, and more than 2169 02:12:22,110 --> 02:12:25,560 half of our college graduates. More women are now their 2170 02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:29,790 family's main breadwinner than ever before. But in a lot of 2171 02:12:29,790 --> 02:12:33,900 ways our economy hasn't caught up to this new reality yet. On 2172 02:12:33,900 --> 02:12:38,070 average, a woman still earns just 77 cents for every dollar a 2173 02:12:38,070 --> 02:12:42,270 man does. And too many women face outdated workplace policies 2174 02:12:42,270 --> 02:12:46,680 that hold them back, which in turn holds back our families and 2175 02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:50,910 our entire economy. A woman deserves to earn equal pay for 2176 02:12:50,910 --> 02:12:51,600 equal work. 2177 02:12:51,690 --> 02:12:56,310 Okay. Now, this is where something really tricky happened 2178 02:12:56,310 --> 02:13:00,900 here. And I'm going to play his parent Al Sharpton. So you can 2179 02:13:00,900 --> 02:13:03,540 hear what has now been launched into the stratosphere, 2180 02:13:03,570 --> 02:13:07,530 women make about 77 cents for every dollar man makes for doing 2181 02:13:07,530 --> 02:13:11,250 the same job, don't Republican needs to be more sensitive to 2182 02:13:11,250 --> 02:13:12,510 issues like that don't 2183 02:13:12,510 --> 02:13:15,690 Republican needs to be sensitive to issues more like that. All 2184 02:13:15,690 --> 02:13:20,520 right, whatever else spoken. Now, what is being said here is 2185 02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:26,850 that women make 77 cents to the male dollar for the same job. 2186 02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,480 That is a lie. Now, the President didn't actually say 2187 02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:35,250 that. But what he said was, women make 77 cents for every 2188 02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:39,450 dollar a man earns and then later he says women deserve to 2189 02:13:39,450 --> 02:13:44,340 have equal pay for equal work. This statistic is not true for 2190 02:13:44,340 --> 02:13:49,920 the same job. This statistic, in some regards, holds true, but 2191 02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:53,100 then you're looking across all jobs that are held by men and 2192 02:13:53,100 --> 02:14:01,260 women. Okay, so it is not it is absolutely not true that women 2193 02:14:01,290 --> 02:14:06,510 receive 77% 77 cents on the dollar that male men receive for 2194 02:14:06,510 --> 02:14:10,740 the same job. While it sometimes of course does happen that is 2195 02:14:10,740 --> 02:14:14,550 not an across the board statistic. This statistic is 77 2196 02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:20,970 cents to the male dollar across the board for all jobs. But you 2197 02:14:20,970 --> 02:14:25,530 watch and this is going to be in the lexicon just like the 1989 2198 02:14:25,530 --> 02:14:29,250 bull crap. 66% of the work for 10% of the pay, and it's 2199 02:14:29,250 --> 02:14:33,240 factually untrue. And actually, I looked this up, you know where 2200 02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:38,310 I got the PolitiFact which I hate, because they're douche. 2201 02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:42,150 But PolitiFact is even calling the President on this but you 2202 02:14:42,150 --> 02:14:46,170 watch this is going to it's got legs, and everyone's going to be 2203 02:14:46,170 --> 02:14:50,010 saying, well, they only get 77 cents for every dollar a man 2204 02:14:50,010 --> 02:14:54,150 earns for the same job and it's not true. And you just heard Al 2205 02:14:54,150 --> 02:14:55,830 Sharpton pick it up and lie about it. 2206 02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:03,240 Yep, All right, well, I would put that in the book. But it's 2207 02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:05,790 so you don't you don't have to put it in the book. I think one 2208 02:15:05,790 --> 02:15:07,890 thing we do have to put in the book I mentioned that we might 2209 02:15:07,890 --> 02:15:11,100 get it might discuss I put in the newsletter as a possibility. 2210 02:15:12,150 --> 02:15:15,240 And I want to discuss it just for a minute. Because we're the 2211 02:15:15,240 --> 02:15:20,610 only show that would even breach this topic. Which is Bill 2212 02:15:20,610 --> 02:15:21,960 Clinton and his future. 2213 02:15:22,860 --> 02:15:28,650 Yes, yes. Yes. Yes, yes. Now, if we look at the book that we have 2214 02:15:28,650 --> 02:15:29,250 in here and 2215 02:15:29,250 --> 02:15:32,520 not file, okay, hold on. Well, we started talking about this 2216 02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:34,710 about a year and a half ago, maybe longer, we 2217 02:15:34,710 --> 02:15:38,040 put in the book that Hillary that Hillary will Kill Bill, or 2218 02:15:38,040 --> 02:15:39,120 let's just say he will die 2219 02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:42,060 have that part. Yeah. And he will, he will have him killed. 2220 02:15:42,060 --> 02:15:44,940 She's not going to gonna choke him or anything. And he will die 2221 02:15:44,940 --> 02:15:47,580 in the saddle, though that will be that's already set up. Yeah. 2222 02:15:47,820 --> 02:15:52,020 No, no, I don't have a lot of that's in the book. I know. It's 2223 02:15:52,020 --> 02:15:56,910 in the book. Who said it me or you know, you said that? Well, 2224 02:15:56,910 --> 02:15:59,070 we're gonna here's the deal. And then I say, I 2225 02:15:59,070 --> 02:16:02,580 said he's going to die before the election. And you said he's 2226 02:16:02,580 --> 02:16:04,020 going to die at some other time. 2227 02:16:04,170 --> 02:16:06,600 No, no, no, I always said before the election. Could you give 2228 02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:10,980 Hillary a boost at the HoH you are lying now? This? No, I think 2229 02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:13,230 it was it was right before the election. If she needed the 2230 02:16:13,230 --> 02:16:16,560 boost. Would you please find that when you kill him after the 2231 02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:20,010 election? Oh, it's the votes. Yeah. Well, what's a sympathy 2232 02:16:20,010 --> 02:16:22,590 vote? It was my thought that she would get it sympathy vote. 2233 02:16:22,830 --> 02:16:25,590 Ah, you are? Okay. No, I 2234 02:16:25,590 --> 02:16:29,370 know. You Biden know what you're trying to find. Here's what the 2235 02:16:29,370 --> 02:16:32,190 argument was. The argument was, you said he's gonna get killed 2236 02:16:32,190 --> 02:16:34,770 this year. And I said, No, it's gonna be closer to the election. 2237 02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:39,840 Okay, that may be possible. So I still have, what, nine months? 2238 02:16:40,049 --> 02:16:44,819 No, I'm saying we were we're pulling. We're pulling the red 2239 02:16:44,819 --> 02:16:50,789 book entry. And we're restating it now. So it can be with newest 2240 02:16:50,789 --> 02:16:53,519 information. I think we can restate it and re discuss it 2241 02:16:53,519 --> 02:16:55,139 because I think things have changed. 2242 02:16:56,100 --> 02:16:59,580 I've gotten information man. New shit has come to light. 2243 02:17:00,750 --> 02:17:06,960 Exactly. Good call. So I think it's this little thing with his 2244 02:17:06,960 --> 02:17:08,790 little thing with the two whores 2245 02:17:10,379 --> 02:17:15,359 Hello, hello. Sex workers. Sex workers that from the Bunny 2246 02:17:15,359 --> 02:17:16,589 Ranch. Not whores. 2247 02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:19,680 Okay, they're sex entertainers. Yeah, you're right. You 2248 02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:22,800 shouldn't retract. They're not horrors no sex sex workers 2249 02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:25,110 although hanging out with that douchebag that she would they 2250 02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:28,020 were hanging out in the horror category. They were whorish 2251 02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:33,210 well, so they got Clinton. You know, people got the newsletter, 2252 02:17:33,210 --> 02:17:38,400 they saw what we're talking about. And I think now that I 2253 02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:43,530 think that Hillary has got to start thinking about the timing 2254 02:17:43,530 --> 02:17:49,740 of this because if you she's gonna be if she kills him really 2255 02:17:49,740 --> 02:17:54,600 close to the election. I think that is going to it's not going 2256 02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:56,340 to necessarily help her campaign he 2257 02:17:56,340 --> 02:17:59,490 has to kill them now, which is what I've always said. I think 2258 02:17:59,490 --> 02:18:02,430 you might be right now did you know they never said she was 2259 02:18:02,430 --> 02:18:05,340 gonna kill him after the election is here. I think you 2260 02:18:05,340 --> 02:18:08,820 might be right because because you're just going to be it's a 2261 02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:12,990 two phase thing you firstly dies Yes. And then they're going to 2262 02:18:12,990 --> 02:18:15,600 have a big you know, ceremony and it's all gonna be about him 2263 02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:17,700 and there's gonna do not gonna be talking about anybody else's 2264 02:18:17,700 --> 02:18:22,110 body Bill, Bill Bill. And then the crackpots are becoming out 2265 02:18:22,110 --> 02:18:25,530 the conspiracy people Oh, Hillary killed him, which of 2266 02:18:25,530 --> 02:18:29,370 course is where we are. Course is what I'll be. You'll be 2267 02:18:29,370 --> 02:18:32,670 saying it will all be saying but what that will die. And that 2268 02:18:32,670 --> 02:18:37,680 needs a period of have to die. That little idea that she would 2269 02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:40,710 do this in some way, shape, or form, even though she's got 2270 02:18:40,710 --> 02:18:42,420 access to all the same murderers. Let's 2271 02:18:42,419 --> 02:18:45,359 see. Let's see here. This is a this would be this changes 2272 02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:47,730 things we have to read. Here's a look at this here 2273 02:18:47,729 --> 02:18:51,509 is now as you know, I'm a time traveller. And I went into the 2274 02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:54,809 future. This is why it's so easy for me to make all these bets 2275 02:18:54,809 --> 02:18:57,449 about iWatch and all this stuff, because I'm a time traveller. 2276 02:18:57,989 --> 02:19:01,289 Did I did I tell you the name of the new pope before anyone knew 2277 02:19:01,289 --> 02:19:06,179 it? Yeah. Okay. What am I a time traveller. And I came back from 2278 02:19:06,179 --> 02:19:10,199 the future thing that makes sense. I came back, I guess, 2279 02:19:10,499 --> 02:19:13,319 from the future. I have a clip I brought a clip with me from the 2280 02:19:13,319 --> 02:19:19,169 future. Future click music on do we have this? I have a clip from 2281 02:19:19,169 --> 02:19:26,729 the future of Hillary after she kills bills, so I mean, that is 2282 02:19:26,729 --> 02:19:32,069 the land of unconfirmed Yes, we came. We saw he died. There you 2283 02:19:32,069 --> 02:19:36,509 go from the future, John. Yeah, for 2284 02:19:36,810 --> 02:19:40,650 the future. Yes. rethink this whole thing. Now if Bill is in 2285 02:19:40,650 --> 02:19:42,840 bills, not healthy, so then he doesn't look good. 2286 02:19:42,990 --> 02:19:48,450 Oh, I gotta come back from the future. A time travel that you'd 2287 02:19:48,450 --> 02:19:48,630 like 2288 02:19:48,660 --> 02:19:50,280 to tear on your show harp in your office. 2289 02:19:50,310 --> 02:19:54,030 What's hair on your chest? Yeah. You know, there's that he's 2290 02:19:54,030 --> 02:19:57,030 mentioned in this pedo bear lawsuit. Have you heard about 2291 02:19:57,030 --> 02:20:02,220 this? No. Okay. Jeffrey's got Gotta go. This is what Jeffrey 2292 02:20:02,220 --> 02:20:08,460 Epstein banker dude, the hedge fund asshole, obviously arrested 2293 02:20:08,460 --> 02:20:12,870 in 2008 for soliciting and under underage prostitutes in the 2294 02:20:12,870 --> 02:20:18,360 lawsuit now. There's information about Bill, how he took multiple 2295 02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:21,990 trips to Epstein's private island where he quote kept young 2296 02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:26,280 women as sex slaves. They have all of his the jet logs of how 2297 02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:29,520 many times bill went over there now that you can do a lot of 2298 02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:33,480 things with Hillary under age hookers, that he she draws the 2299 02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:38,220 line at that. On this private Caribbean island, which what did 2300 02:20:38,220 --> 02:20:44,580 they call this thing? Like little little St. James? And St. 2301 02:20:44,580 --> 02:20:48,870 James. So one of these? She's now she's now of age one of 2302 02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:54,420 these. Then underage women. What was her name? Did they have a 2303 02:20:54,420 --> 02:20:55,680 code name for her? Like, 2304 02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:57,360 you better have a code name for it? 2305 02:20:57,420 --> 02:21:00,510 They do or should it be dead? Yeah. What was it is looking 2306 02:21:00,510 --> 02:21:06,480 forward now? Oh, Jane Doe. 102. Okay, so she was 2307 02:21:07,289 --> 02:21:08,129 women are there? 2308 02:21:09,540 --> 02:21:14,880 At least 102? Wow, that's a good point. She was forced to live as 2309 02:21:14,880 --> 02:21:18,300 one of Epstein's underage sex slaves for years and was forced 2310 02:21:18,300 --> 02:21:22,920 to have sex with politicians, businessmen, royalty, academics, 2311 02:21:22,950 --> 02:21:26,010 et cetera. According to the lawsuit. 2312 02:21:28,230 --> 02:21:30,120 This is gonna have the lawsuit filings. 2313 02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:34,620 No, I do not the net. I'm looking for him. We'll get we'll 2314 02:21:34,620 --> 02:21:35,880 get him we'll get him support. And 2315 02:21:35,880 --> 02:21:39,390 this is part of this discussion. This is another angle we have to 2316 02:21:39,390 --> 02:21:43,410 consider. So I'm changing my whole idea that is going to be 2317 02:21:43,410 --> 02:21:45,600 just before the election for a quickie it's 2318 02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:48,810 got to be it's got to it will be good this year. Because you 2319 02:21:48,810 --> 02:21:51,960 know, look, we're all we're already the plane thing is 2320 02:21:51,960 --> 02:21:55,710 played out if you want to get this this mh 370 off the screen 2321 02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:58,350 kills bill the week. Kill Bill. 2322 02:21:59,039 --> 02:22:02,519 Now, here's the deal. And by the way, that movie named Kill Bill 2323 02:22:02,519 --> 02:22:06,059 is kind of fortuitous. Hello, we're gonna pick a date, we're 2324 02:22:06,059 --> 02:22:08,669 gonna do a Deadpool. I know it sounds sick. And it's actually 2325 02:22:08,669 --> 02:22:11,009 ghoulish and people out there should you know if you don't 2326 02:22:11,009 --> 02:22:14,039 like what we're talking about. It's just the way the show goes. 2327 02:22:14,039 --> 02:22:17,819 Sometimes we can't help it. I want to pull I want us to have a 2328 02:22:17,819 --> 02:22:20,879 Deadpool where we advocate maybe even with some of the listeners 2329 02:22:20,879 --> 02:22:23,249 join in with you know, we have a donation 2330 02:22:23,670 --> 02:22:26,070 to actually work calling dates now. Is that what we're doing? 2331 02:22:26,100 --> 02:22:31,590 Yes. Wow. Huh. Well, it's got 2332 02:22:31,590 --> 02:22:34,380 an I don't want here's the problem. Here's the old problem. 2333 02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:37,620 It was always with this. And it maybe we should bring other 2334 02:22:37,620 --> 02:22:40,680 people who have to discuss this further. But if you said, Well, 2335 02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:46,560 I think it'll be January 10 2015. And then I say January 2336 02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:51,600 11. Because I you know, just the night joy. I get covered all the 2337 02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:54,270 way to the end. And you don't have any versatility on the 2338 02:22:54,270 --> 02:22:56,460 other side. Because I don't have any versatility on this side 2339 02:22:56,460 --> 02:23:02,040 either. I think I don't know how to do this. Oh, it works. But we 2340 02:23:02,040 --> 02:23:05,190 need. I'm now on you're in your camp that it's going to be 2341 02:23:05,190 --> 02:23:09,660 sooner than later. I but I still think it'd be in 2015 at least a 2342 02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:12,330 year before the election. No, 2343 02:23:12,359 --> 02:23:17,789 you know, do you know how much work it takes to detail to get a 2344 02:23:17,789 --> 02:23:23,399 lot of set up? I think it could take us all the way into the pre 2345 02:23:23,399 --> 02:23:27,689 election season which is gonna it's already starting basically. 2346 02:23:28,049 --> 02:23:30,989 And she needs to announce you know, so we need months and 2347 02:23:30,989 --> 02:23:33,959 months of mourning and retrospectives and 2348 02:23:34,500 --> 02:23:38,010 you know, anything is going to be within the next 60 days. 2349 02:23:38,429 --> 02:23:41,699 I'm thinking maybe even less than that. I'm thinking is with 2350 02:23:41,699 --> 02:23:46,049 this lawsuit. He's got to go now. He's got to go. You the 2351 02:23:46,049 --> 02:23:48,929 underage thing is one thing hookers. Okay, the underage 2352 02:23:48,929 --> 02:23:54,119 hookers sorry. That's it. That's unacceptable. He's got to go. 2353 02:23:55,350 --> 02:23:58,260 Well, okay, well, we'll put off this discussion until we get to 2354 02:23:58,260 --> 02:24:02,130 look at that document. It's got to be filed somewhere. Let's 2355 02:24:02,130 --> 02:24:06,540 do that. Okay, I'm on the lookout for the document. The 2356 02:24:06,540 --> 02:24:07,620 good point I think that's the 2357 02:24:07,620 --> 02:24:10,110 way I want to see the document too. So if you either one of us 2358 02:24:10,110 --> 02:24:13,140 finds we have to send it to the other guy. Yeah, of course. No, 2359 02:24:13,140 --> 02:24:15,540 I wouldn't withhold actually this would be some good this is 2360 02:24:15,540 --> 02:24:19,770 be a good make good for stack I would. After he sent us this 2361 02:24:19,770 --> 02:24:20,850 piece of crap that 2362 02:24:20,850 --> 02:24:24,180 native advertising stack get us get us the lawsuit. All right. 2363 02:24:24,180 --> 02:24:26,670 And we got lots of lawyers. Listen to the show. We got lots 2364 02:24:26,670 --> 02:24:32,310 of lawyers. Speaking of, of hookers, as you know, I think it 2365 02:24:32,310 --> 02:24:35,700 starts tomorrow. The Netherlands has been turned into Gitmo 2366 02:24:35,700 --> 02:24:39,600 nation proper. There's tanks on the road peep the Dutch people 2367 02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:43,320 are going What is this? Because of the big nuclear summit. 2368 02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:47,460 Right, and everyone's going to be there. Now. They actually are 2369 02:24:47,640 --> 02:24:53,220 what I told you a week ago on this show. Now they actually are 2370 02:24:53,220 --> 02:24:57,600 saying in public, though that plane might show up as a bomb 2371 02:24:58,140 --> 02:25:01,590 going to kill everybody and I'm not kidding. This is a newspaper 2372 02:25:01,650 --> 02:25:06,210 in the newspaper now. But more importantly, we know that the 2373 02:25:06,210 --> 02:25:11,010 Escort companies had been booked way more advanced than usual. 2374 02:25:11,070 --> 02:25:12,720 And of course, you know, they all have to sign their non 2375 02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:16,080 disclosures and everything all the all the escorts are we're 2376 02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:20,250 all primed and pumped and ready, pun intended. But here's what's 2377 02:25:20,250 --> 02:25:24,810 interesting. At the meeting table at the forum in The Hague, 2378 02:25:25,890 --> 02:25:35,250 lunch will be served only by mail servers, no females and all 2379 02:25:35,250 --> 02:25:39,660 men since the yes and all men will be at least 25 years of age 2380 02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:44,040 because they don't want anyone being distracted or dogs 2381 02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:45,690 come down. Yes, 2382 02:25:45,900 --> 02:25:50,670 the director or the director of funding Linda catering says that 2383 02:25:50,670 --> 02:25:54,480 this is exactly what what they have been asked to do is to have 2384 02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:54,870 been asked 2385 02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:57,480 to do this because it's that bad of a problem here. 2386 02:25:58,230 --> 02:26:04,530 It literally says we do not want the the attendees being 2387 02:26:04,530 --> 02:26:05,580 distracted 2388 02:26:06,090 --> 02:26:10,140 by a waitress. serving food 2389 02:26:10,170 --> 02:26:12,780 this is in the newspaper so I presumed someone did the 2390 02:26:12,780 --> 02:26:22,050 research on it. Yeah, a look at her. I'm thinking this is great. 2391 02:26:22,050 --> 02:26:25,170 I met a bunch of guys that I looked at that that guy's hot. 2392 02:26:25,800 --> 02:26:29,100 Yeah, I'm thinking it's exactly the opposite. I think a bunch of 2393 02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:30,630 horndog gay guys that this 2394 02:26:30,660 --> 02:26:34,500 this thing Yeah, maybe that's why they made it do thing didn't 2395 02:26:34,500 --> 02:26:37,470 we don't want any women in here respecting us from the good 2396 02:26:37,470 --> 02:26:37,800 looking 2397 02:26:38,280 --> 02:26:39,720 good looking dudes 2398 02:26:42,210 --> 02:26:45,750 good well, I'm just reading been misinterpreting it. 2399 02:26:46,710 --> 02:26:47,760 Yeah, good big. 2400 02:26:49,290 --> 02:26:52,590 I'm just just reading it as I just as it comes in. 2401 02:26:54,390 --> 02:26:57,120 As funny as this summer is supposed to accomplish. 2402 02:26:58,290 --> 02:27:02,100 Um, I think what it's going to accomplish is the ICBMs in 2403 02:27:02,100 --> 02:27:06,030 Poland. This is how convenient is it that we have this whole F 2404 02:27:06,030 --> 02:27:09,840 Russia thing going on with Ukraine? And why don't we just 2405 02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:12,300 while we're at it, why don't we just have a nuclear summit and 2406 02:27:12,300 --> 02:27:14,580 talk about where we're going to put the rockets back? 2407 02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:18,030 This is not gonna end well. 2408 02:27:18,660 --> 02:27:22,020 Yeah, I have a bad feeling about this as well. It's It's so 2409 02:27:22,020 --> 02:27:25,140 obvious that the media is complicit in making this 2410 02:27:25,500 --> 02:27:30,480 witnessed the Obama bots. Putin is a bad guy. You can't say he's 2411 02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:35,160 a good guy. Well, no, unlike who like Cheney. These were good 2412 02:27:35,160 --> 02:27:38,940 guys. Now, what are you talking about? And yeah, Rumsfeld, 2413 02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:43,200 Brennan, current douchebags that are running, killing massive 2414 02:27:43,650 --> 02:27:46,500 missions. Yeah, no, none of these guys are good. 2415 02:27:47,430 --> 02:27:51,000 And talking about that, I gotta have a clip. Okay. Now there's 2416 02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:53,550 two partners. It's called impeachment. And this was guy 2417 02:27:53,550 --> 02:27:57,210 was Wilkerson, who was his chief of staff for Colin Powell. Just 2418 02:27:57,210 --> 02:28:01,710 bitching about everything on one of thumb, Hartman's spin off 2419 02:28:01,710 --> 02:28:04,830 shows called Bright, great brains or something. Hartman is 2420 02:28:04,830 --> 02:28:08,340 a pathetic interviewer, by the way, but this guy was went off 2421 02:28:08,340 --> 02:28:11,730 the rails here, and I thought he was making sense on Contra. 2422 02:28:12,780 --> 02:28:18,510 Maybe even Clinton, they were petty crimes, they didn't rise 2423 02:28:18,510 --> 02:28:21,690 to the level of what our founding fathers might call high 2424 02:28:21,690 --> 02:28:25,290 crimes and misdemeanours. Article Two of the Constitution 2425 02:28:25,290 --> 02:28:27,900 has an impeachment clause in it. I think the founders would be 2426 02:28:27,900 --> 02:28:32,370 astounded, utterly astounded to a man Elbridge Gary Alexander 2427 02:28:32,370 --> 02:28:35,040 Hamilton, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, 2428 02:28:35,190 --> 02:28:37,950 you name one of the founders that we know, they'd be 2429 02:28:37,950 --> 02:28:41,070 astounded. We hadn't thrown some bastard out every generation. 2430 02:28:41,250 --> 02:28:44,910 And we've we've we've just not used that clause properly. It 2431 02:28:44,910 --> 02:28:47,580 certainly should have been used against George W. Bush, if there 2432 02:28:47,580 --> 02:28:50,760 was anyone who should have been impeached successfully removed 2433 02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:54,930 from office. It was George W. Bush. So in that vein, the 2434 02:28:54,930 --> 02:28:58,560 nature of those crimes in my view, and I think we need that 2435 02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:02,160 6000 Plus page report from the Senate Select Committee. I think 2436 02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:05,130 we need the Panetta report. We need these things out so we can 2437 02:29:05,130 --> 02:29:09,120 look at them as Americans. With that in mind. I think President 2438 02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:12,360 Obama made a grave mistake in not doing something about the 2439 02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:17,190 previous administrations. high crimes and misdemeanours. Hmm, 2440 02:29:17,640 --> 02:29:21,330 that was a good point. The second is the second article is 2441 02:29:21,540 --> 02:29:24,120 about the executive office in the Constitution. And there is a 2442 02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:27,150 very, fairly clear in there, there's an impeachment process 2443 02:29:27,150 --> 02:29:29,310 if you don't like the guy for some reason, or he's or he's a 2444 02:29:29,310 --> 02:29:32,910 criminal. I mean, we did have Spiro Agnew who was the first 2445 02:29:32,910 --> 02:29:36,090 vice president under Richard Nixon kicked out of office. 2446 02:29:36,420 --> 02:29:39,810 People always forget about that for just literally taking bribes 2447 02:29:39,810 --> 02:29:43,050 in the Vice President's office, you know, by the suitcase full 2448 02:29:43,170 --> 02:29:46,050 and Nixon did the same thing. But he was never caught. And 2449 02:29:46,050 --> 02:29:48,900 these guys are essentially either criminals or war 2450 02:29:48,900 --> 02:29:50,670 criminals, many of them and we've we've 2451 02:29:51,300 --> 02:29:55,680 right but only Congress can can impeach the president. You can't 2452 02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:58,200 have you know, it's a Yeah, what exactly. 2453 02:29:58,680 --> 02:29:59,550 Do anything Well, 2454 02:29:59,550 --> 02:30:02,280 what exactly did Obama do wrong? What? 2455 02:30:02,310 --> 02:30:04,110 Because nobody saw by George W. Bush? 2456 02:30:04,290 --> 02:30:08,160 No. He said he said Obama made a severe mistake by white not 2457 02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:10,650 going after him when he was Senator. 2458 02:30:11,220 --> 02:30:15,330 No, no, when he ran the country, the first two years of his 2459 02:30:15,330 --> 02:30:18,120 election, he could have said, we're going to investigate the 2460 02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:21,720 previous administration for war crimes. And you, Congressman, 2461 02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:25,140 you're doing real. You all got elected. You're all Democrats. 2462 02:30:25,140 --> 02:30:28,770 You're all in my camp. He owned a Congress, he on the Senate, he 2463 02:30:28,770 --> 02:30:30,870 wouldn't he could have pushed it, and then the Senate would 2464 02:30:30,870 --> 02:30:35,550 have approved it because he was gold for two years. Uh huh. But 2465 02:30:35,550 --> 02:30:39,060 no, he didn't do shit. He could have put in single payer health 2466 02:30:39,060 --> 02:30:41,940 care to he didn't do anything that guy's horrible. The he 2467 02:30:41,940 --> 02:30:44,880 should also be impeached for killing people with drones. Now, 2468 02:30:44,910 --> 02:30:47,370 here's the second part of which is just kind of an interesting 2469 02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:48,300 addendum. 2470 02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:52,710 If you were to draft that bill of impeachment, what would it 2471 02:30:53,460 --> 02:30:57,420 specify? I'd have to have those 6000 Plus pages, and then I 2472 02:30:57,420 --> 02:31:01,800 think I'd have adequate material to frame those articles. So we 2473 02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:05,580 don't even know the full extent of I think the fright on John 2474 02:31:05,580 --> 02:31:09,990 Brennan's part right now, is that not only will there be 2475 02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:13,560 people within the CIA who will have to be indicted, if this 2476 02:31:13,560 --> 02:31:19,710 comes out. John Brennan may have you may be amongst Yeah, yeah, 2477 02:31:19,710 --> 02:31:20,190 he should 2478 02:31:20,190 --> 02:31:26,370 be and Hayden. Absolutely. Yeah. And that Rodriguez guy the 2479 02:31:26,370 --> 02:31:27,900 torture specialist 2480 02:31:27,930 --> 02:31:35,310 Felix. No. A different guy. Anyway, yeah, I've absolutely 2481 02:31:35,340 --> 02:31:38,550 but there's here's about McCain, I would just throw McCain and 2482 02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:40,650 just for good measure, just so they have something to eat. 2483 02:31:40,710 --> 02:31:41,580 Throw that guy in. 2484 02:31:42,180 --> 02:31:46,020 So here, so I can put in the Red Book, this 6000 page document is 2485 02:31:46,020 --> 02:31:48,480 never gonna see the light of day and if it does, it will be 2486 02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:50,850 leaked, and it will be the biggest scandal in the history 2487 02:31:50,850 --> 02:31:51,480 of the country. 2488 02:31:51,510 --> 02:31:56,520 No, I disagree. It will be leaked. And it'll be written 2489 02:31:56,520 --> 02:32:01,620 about on the intercept and no one will see it. Okay, you say 2490 02:32:01,620 --> 02:32:04,260 leaked leaked. No one cares. That's what Iceland 2491 02:32:04,260 --> 02:32:06,810 cares. And I say leak people care. Okay. 2492 02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:09,900 leaks. No one cares where I'm going. 2493 02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:14,970 Okay, let me put the get there. Got my highlighter back so I can 2494 02:32:14,970 --> 02:32:17,580 put it so I can find these damn things when I need to. 2495 02:32:17,700 --> 02:32:25,380 I need to add a new a new neocon to the mix. In our never ending 2496 02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:30,810 F Russia campaign. Okay, I'm listening. Madeleine Albright. 2497 02:32:31,500 --> 02:32:37,530 Oh, yeah. Madeline would fit in former nose neocon, former 2498 02:32:37,530 --> 02:32:37,950 Secretary 2499 02:32:37,950 --> 02:32:42,330 of State she runs the she's pretty nice, pretty sweet outfit 2500 02:32:42,330 --> 02:32:46,650 she's got going on here. She runs the let me see. What is it 2501 02:32:46,650 --> 02:32:52,050 called? I can't find it. Now. It's Oh, yes, the Albright 2502 02:32:52,050 --> 02:32:56,700 Stonebridge Group. And this is a group. If you look at their 2503 02:32:56,700 --> 02:33:02,040 website, which is pretty it's all bright stonebridge.com do b 2504 02:33:02,040 --> 02:33:06,240 Go to their homepage here. This is this is what you do when you 2505 02:33:06,270 --> 02:33:09,360 when you get out of Washington or you don't really ever get out 2506 02:33:09,360 --> 02:33:13,890 of Washington. We speak the language of business. Oops, just 2507 02:33:13,890 --> 02:33:17,640 switched. We go beyond opening doors working alongside our 2508 02:33:17,640 --> 02:33:20,580 clients to help navigate challenging markets. based in 2509 02:33:20,580 --> 02:33:23,820 Washington and capitals around the world. Our advisors provide 2510 02:33:23,850 --> 02:33:26,820 unparalleled insights, high level strategic advice and 2511 02:33:27,240 --> 02:33:30,780 switching to fast with experience that spans countries 2512 02:33:30,780 --> 02:33:34,290 and industries, we tailor strategic solutions. We speak 2513 02:33:34,290 --> 02:33:36,570 the languages of businesses and government translating 2514 02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:40,500 opportunities and risks into benefits and rewards. Funny 2515 02:33:40,500 --> 02:33:44,370 enough, they do a lot of work in Russia, also in China. So what 2516 02:33:44,370 --> 02:33:47,550 you do is if you want to open up a business, these people of 2517 02:33:47,550 --> 02:33:49,800 course, Madeleine Albright, she can pick up the phone and call 2518 02:33:49,830 --> 02:33:51,780 anybody she wants. 2519 02:33:52,619 --> 02:33:55,679 Including the Kim Jong Un if you 2520 02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:59,280 want yeah, she can pick up the phone call anybody. And this is 2521 02:33:59,280 --> 02:34:02,550 how you know they they help navigate you what typically 2522 02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:06,690 would this is what the job of embassies is when an embassy 2523 02:34:06,690 --> 02:34:10,500 should do but the embassy guys are too busy drinking and 2524 02:34:10,500 --> 02:34:14,190 throwing parties for everybody. And a really do that much. They 2525 02:34:14,190 --> 02:34:18,060 don't do any work now. So you had no follow up. By the way. I 2526 02:34:18,060 --> 02:34:23,280 my honour a console. I think that's a dead end. Oh, 2527 02:34:23,310 --> 02:34:26,970 so here's somebody sent a copy of the show. Here's Madeleine 2528 02:34:26,970 --> 02:34:30,270 Albright. And I forget where she's being interviewed. But she 2529 02:34:30,270 --> 02:34:35,730 is using the same that job. Yeah, I was right is if he or 2530 02:34:35,730 --> 02:34:39,630 she is kind of parroting what all the what all the others are 2531 02:34:39,630 --> 02:34:42,660 saying. And she's really right on board. And, of course, you 2532 02:34:42,660 --> 02:34:45,360 know, she gets on television. And this is very important for 2533 02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:50,610 the general lexicon of what we're doing here to screw Russia 2534 02:34:50,610 --> 02:34:51,930 back into the stone age. 2535 02:34:51,990 --> 02:34:55,200 But I do think we need to be more vigilant and those of us 2536 02:34:55,200 --> 02:35:00,780 that have dealt with Putin know how he thinks and he Les is 2537 02:35:00,810 --> 02:35:05,220 nostalgic and believes that he's some kind of a new Tsar, so 2538 02:35:06,509 --> 02:35:12,299 he's nostalgic, and thinks that he's some kind of new tsar. Oh, 2539 02:35:12,299 --> 02:35:15,479 do you think she ever dealt with Putin was? What is their 2540 02:35:15,479 --> 02:35:18,449 pictures of him and her together? She didn't do while 2541 02:35:18,449 --> 02:35:19,049 you're doing 2542 02:35:19,050 --> 02:35:19,920 that? I'll do a look. 2543 02:35:19,950 --> 02:35:23,580 Do you think? I think that it's when people talk about military 2544 02:35:23,580 --> 02:35:26,100 force, they always think boots on the ground. I have 2545 02:35:26,100 --> 02:35:29,610 a picture her of her and Putin smiling at each other and 2546 02:35:29,610 --> 02:35:35,760 laughing and having a good old time. Hey, Vlad, you too face 2547 02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:37,830 bitch. I hate these people 2548 02:35:37,860 --> 02:35:41,850 believes that he's some kind of a new tsar. So I do think I 2549 02:35:41,850 --> 02:35:44,880 think that it's when people talk about military force, they 2550 02:35:44,880 --> 02:35:47,850 always think boots on the ground. And there are obviously 2551 02:35:47,850 --> 02:35:51,420 other ways to think about military force. And I do think 2552 02:35:51,540 --> 02:35:56,370 that NATO and through a variety of exercises and support, I 2553 02:35:56,370 --> 02:36:00,000 think that there is a way that that tool has to also be on the 2554 02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:03,030 table and vigilance. Because when and one of our other 2555 02:36:03,030 --> 02:36:06,000 problems and came up with the way you talked about Ukraine, 2556 02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:09,810 David generally is we have a very short attention span, we 2557 02:36:09,810 --> 02:36:15,000 have to see this as a long term problem. We worked in the 90s, 2558 02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:18,960 to try to get Russia to be a part of the system. We did 2559 02:36:18,990 --> 02:36:23,340 everything we possibly could. And I think that they now are in 2560 02:36:23,340 --> 02:36:26,610 a process of isolating themselves. It is dangerous. 2561 02:36:26,730 --> 02:36:30,360 This is a game changer. And I think I know we're all focused 2562 02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:34,350 on the aeroplane. But the bottom line is this has really truly 2563 02:36:34,350 --> 02:36:38,130 long term implications. And we all need to focus on how to deal 2564 02:36:38,130 --> 02:36:42,180 with Ukraine, how to deal with us European relations, try to 2565 02:36:42,180 --> 02:36:46,740 get our economic treaties, trade treaties done, and then focus on 2566 02:36:46,740 --> 02:36:49,860 our relations with Russia turning point. I'm very glad 2567 02:36:49,860 --> 02:36:53,070 that time has it on the cover. And I'm very glad to have been a 2568 02:36:53,070 --> 02:36:55,260 part of this discussion. Okay. 2569 02:36:55,290 --> 02:37:00,210 war monger throw her in jail along with Brennan. By the way, 2570 02:37:00,210 --> 02:37:02,850 if you look at a younger picture of her she looks really a lot 2571 02:37:02,850 --> 02:37:04,710 like Victoria Nuland 2572 02:37:05,940 --> 02:37:09,150 something they shoot him up with. But that may be what 2573 02:37:09,150 --> 02:37:12,120 Victoria Nuland ends up looking like that would be something to 2574 02:37:12,120 --> 02:37:13,110 think about. Well, 2575 02:37:13,140 --> 02:37:16,620 then we need to jail. There you go. That's your future 2576 02:37:16,650 --> 02:37:17,220 Neverland. 2577 02:37:18,060 --> 02:37:22,470 Three clips from the guy who would which I think fits in with 2578 02:37:22,470 --> 02:37:27,180 what you've got there. This guy was the ambassador to the USSR 2579 02:37:27,180 --> 02:37:33,210 during Reagan. And he was on one of the democracy now shows and 2580 02:37:33,210 --> 02:37:37,590 just yakking away and is actually interesting. Play isn't 2581 02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:40,140 a jack Matlock is his name Matlock. 2582 02:37:40,170 --> 02:37:44,580 I have to ask Americans, how would occupy Wall Street have 2583 02:37:44,580 --> 02:37:48,420 looked? If you had foreigners out there load? leading them? 2584 02:37:48,570 --> 02:37:52,410 You think that would have helped them get their point across? I 2585 02:37:52,410 --> 02:37:56,520 don't think so. And I think we have to understand that when we 2586 02:37:56,520 --> 02:38:00,930 start directly interfering, particularly our government 2587 02:38:00,930 --> 02:38:04,440 officials, in the internal makeup of other governments, 2588 02:38:04,710 --> 02:38:08,850 were really asking for trouble. You know, we were pretty careful 2589 02:38:08,850 --> 02:38:14,940 not to do that in my day. And I recall, for example, when I was 2590 02:38:14,940 --> 02:38:19,080 being consulted by the newly elected leaders of what was 2591 02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:24,840 still Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, they were still in 2592 02:38:24,840 --> 02:38:30,090 the Soviet Union. And they would come to us, we were, of course, 2593 02:38:30,090 --> 02:38:32,910 sympathetic to their independence, we had never even 2594 02:38:32,910 --> 02:38:35,700 recognised that they were legally part of the Soviet 2595 02:38:35,700 --> 02:38:41,310 Union. But I had to tell them, keep it peaceful. If if you are 2596 02:38:41,310 --> 02:38:44,910 suppressed, there's nothing we can do about it. We cannot come 2597 02:38:44,910 --> 02:38:48,510 and help you. We're not going to start a nuclear war. 2598 02:38:51,600 --> 02:38:54,240 Yeah, I'm gonna start with the apparently nobody's thinking 2599 02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:57,780 that way anymore. Of course, you don't care? No. And he makes the 2600 02:38:57,780 --> 02:39:01,290 point about NATO, which I think is more more actually even more 2601 02:39:02,310 --> 02:39:02,880 pertinent. 2602 02:39:02,939 --> 02:39:07,559 We're trying to surround Russia with hostile bases, that has 2603 02:39:07,739 --> 02:39:11,459 raised the emotional temperature of all these things. And that 2604 02:39:11,459 --> 02:39:17,579 was a huge mistake, as George Kennan wrote. Back in the 90s, 2605 02:39:17,579 --> 02:39:22,229 when this question came up, the decision to expand NATO, the way 2606 02:39:22,229 --> 02:39:28,049 it was done, was one of the most fateful and bad decisions of the 2607 02:39:28,049 --> 02:39:29,189 late 20th century. 2608 02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:33,630 A bunch of Dan knows this guy just looking at his just career. 2609 02:39:33,780 --> 02:39:36,030 Dawn probably knows him. I'm sure he does. They're both about 2610 02:39:36,030 --> 02:39:42,330 the same age 85 Yeah, same age, same age. The last clip, he he 2611 02:39:42,330 --> 02:39:45,030 defends the Russians over the Chromium thing. 2612 02:39:45,060 --> 02:39:51,030 Russia now has returned Crimea to Russia. It has been most of 2613 02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:54,960 its recent history in the last couple of centuries than Russia 2614 02:39:54,960 --> 02:39:58,860 and the majority of the people are Russian. They clearly would 2615 02:39:58,860 --> 02:40:03,120 prefer to be in Russia. And the bottom line is we can argue till 2616 02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:07,050 doomsday over who did what and why and who was legal and who 2617 02:40:07,050 --> 02:40:11,160 was not. I'm sure historians generations are now will still 2618 02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:15,570 be arguing it. But the fact is, Russia now is not going to give 2619 02:40:15,570 --> 02:40:20,430 up Crimea. The fact also is, if you really look at it 2620 02:40:20,490 --> 02:40:25,020 dispassionately, Ukraine is better off without Crimea. 2621 02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:29,550 Because Ukraine is divided enough as it is there a big 2622 02:40:29,550 --> 02:40:34,080 problem is internal, in putting together disparate people who 2623 02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:38,820 have been put together in that country, the distraction of 2624 02:40:38,820 --> 02:40:42,450 Crimea, where most of the people did not want to be in Ukraine, 2625 02:40:42,660 --> 02:40:46,230 and ended up in Ukraine as a result of really almost a 2626 02:40:46,230 --> 02:40:47,700 bureaucratic whim. 2627 02:40:48,540 --> 02:40:52,140 It was interesting guy, by the way, I hope he stays alive long 2628 02:40:52,140 --> 02:40:56,880 enough to get more out of him. Things that while everyone in 2629 02:40:56,880 --> 02:41:01,230 America is watching the stupid people, idiots in black holes 2630 02:41:01,230 --> 02:41:05,220 and flight simulators and zombie planes. This happened over in 2631 02:41:05,220 --> 02:41:05,550 Europe 2632 02:41:05,580 --> 02:41:09,060 this morning, prior to the European Council, we signed the 2633 02:41:09,150 --> 02:41:12,750 political provisions of the Association Agreement between 2634 02:41:12,750 --> 02:41:17,910 the European Union and Ukraine. It is a sign of our solidarity 2635 02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:21,780 with the people of Ukraine of our support for the respirations 2636 02:41:22,080 --> 02:41:24,570 and their thirst for change 2637 02:41:24,630 --> 02:41:26,940 their thirst for change. 2638 02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:28,620 Before the ceremony. 2639 02:41:29,910 --> 02:41:32,730 We put his gun to his head and said, Jesus, what you're going 2640 02:41:32,730 --> 02:41:33,150 to do 2641 02:41:33,180 --> 02:41:35,550 President of the European Commission and myself, we had a 2642 02:41:35,550 --> 02:41:39,750 meeting with the Prime Minister Yatsenyuk of Ukraine, who 2643 02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:44,310 assured us that his government was focusing on answering the 2644 02:41:44,310 --> 02:41:50,340 people's call for an open and a modern Ukraine to achieve these 2645 02:41:50,340 --> 02:41:55,350 economic and democratic reform. And above all, inclusiveness are 2646 02:41:55,350 --> 02:41:59,460 essential. And I'm confident that Ukrainian government and 2647 02:41:59,460 --> 02:42:02,220 people will succeed on this path. 2648 02:42:02,460 --> 02:42:05,430 So I looked at the documents, of course, I love doing this in the 2649 02:42:05,430 --> 02:42:09,840 European Union. They do they love publishing stuff. And 2650 02:42:09,840 --> 02:42:13,470 unfortunately, everything that I found still says no, this is not 2651 02:42:13,470 --> 02:42:16,710 the final document. And they were talking to the EU Ukraine 2652 02:42:16,710 --> 02:42:19,830 association agreement. And I have all the complete text, but 2653 02:42:19,830 --> 02:42:22,890 they say oh, not until it's been put into the EU journal is that 2654 02:42:22,890 --> 02:42:26,220 the official so that anything could have been changed. But 2655 02:42:26,430 --> 02:42:30,090 paraphrasing two important points, the first $3 billion of 2656 02:42:30,120 --> 02:42:34,320 aid actually goes directly to Russia. Under a previous 2657 02:42:34,350 --> 02:42:37,770 agreement, they did a discount agreement with Ukraine for gas 2658 02:42:37,770 --> 02:42:43,740 bills not paid. This is the most painful 3 billion. And here is 2659 02:42:43,740 --> 02:42:48,870 the main. So all that pretty talk that haiku Herman just said 2660 02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:53,160 there. Here is the line that is most pertinent. The Ukrainian 2661 02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:57,510 government must, quote, embarks swiftly on an ambitious 2662 02:42:57,510 --> 02:43:03,030 programme of structural reforms. I'd say that means they better 2663 02:43:03,030 --> 02:43:07,530 start learning to speak Greek because that's the model. It's 2664 02:43:07,530 --> 02:43:10,230 the model there's there's just no two ways about it. You're 2665 02:43:10,230 --> 02:43:14,250 going down people, you're gonna get rub alized Yeah, oh, yeah. 2666 02:43:14,250 --> 02:43:17,730 Rub allies to the max. And get a kick 2667 02:43:17,730 --> 02:43:20,220 out of this one little side note, which oh, by the way, I 2668 02:43:20,220 --> 02:43:24,630 should mention that Jay, buzzkill Jr's buddy who lived in 2669 02:43:24,630 --> 02:43:28,740 the Ukraine had a couple of things that he felt we should at 2670 02:43:28,740 --> 02:43:32,880 least mention, the Ukrainian societies. And this is weird. 2671 02:43:33,150 --> 02:43:36,870 The Ukrainian society is divided up into three classes, the upper 2672 02:43:36,870 --> 02:43:41,460 classes, which are equally corrupt Russians and corrupt 2673 02:43:41,460 --> 02:43:45,540 Ukrainians at the highest levels of governance. And then there's 2674 02:43:45,540 --> 02:43:48,600 the middle class, which is huge, apparently, it's like here where 2675 02:43:48,600 --> 02:43:51,630 they got the Yeah, and the middle classes, the ones that 2676 02:43:51,630 --> 02:43:55,080 are all want to be Europeans. Yeah, the lower class which is 2677 02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:58,230 also huge, doesn't want to be European, they'd much rather be 2678 02:43:58,230 --> 02:44:04,650 Russian, and they're pretty much controlled by the Chinese. This 2679 02:44:04,950 --> 02:44:08,310 It's like what I had to do some work on this. On the Chinese 2680 02:44:08,310 --> 02:44:12,270 triads, the gangs of China apparently have the middle class 2681 02:44:12,270 --> 02:44:13,830 under their control because they're the only ones who have 2682 02:44:13,830 --> 02:44:19,170 jobs for these people. Hmm And this creates a very strange 2683 02:44:19,170 --> 02:44:19,830 structure that 2684 02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:22,080 doesn't that doesn't surprise me at all. No, it 2685 02:44:22,080 --> 02:44:24,960 doesn't surprise me just I've never heard one mention about 2686 02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:25,470 the Chinese 2687 02:44:25,470 --> 02:44:30,300 the Chinese have the mafia the is it the Yakuza? Whatever the 2688 02:44:30,330 --> 02:44:33,300 No, that's the Japanese. Yeah, those triads are the Chinese 2689 02:44:33,300 --> 02:44:34,320 triads OKAY. 2690 02:44:34,949 --> 02:44:39,179 YES to try as at random the the third of the country. Wow. And 2691 02:44:39,179 --> 02:44:41,429 they're all over the place and they are dead set against any of 2692 02:44:41,429 --> 02:44:42,719 this stuff happening. But what's 2693 02:44:42,720 --> 02:44:45,750 the business? What is it what is the gods must be drugs? Isn't 2694 02:44:45,750 --> 02:44:46,620 that what the Chinese don't 2695 02:44:46,620 --> 02:44:50,820 know anything about everything there is a section outside of I 2696 02:44:50,820 --> 02:44:54,090 believe it's outside of Odessa, which is the corrupt port. Now 2697 02:44:54,090 --> 02:44:57,030 their interview No, they're like they run the ports. The Chinese 2698 02:44:57,030 --> 02:45:01,080 run the ports. They run they run right Right, they run all this 2699 02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:02,940 stuff, commerce, they just run in the place. 2700 02:45:03,360 --> 02:45:06,360 That really means they run the drugs. That's the man. There's 2701 02:45:06,360 --> 02:45:07,320 lots of drugs. And 2702 02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:09,930 there's also lots of black market stuff that's not that 2703 02:45:09,930 --> 02:45:12,840 doesn't have important duties, which is the, you know, stuff 2704 02:45:12,840 --> 02:45:16,800 coming in from stolen goods, places crawling with stolen 2705 02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:20,370 goods, they probably run. They run the hooker since every woman 2706 02:45:20,370 --> 02:45:24,330 there seems to be one. Whatever the case, no offence, nobody 2707 02:45:24,330 --> 02:45:27,900 from the Ukraine, from Ukraine listens to the show, whatever 2708 02:45:27,900 --> 02:45:30,720 the case is that I got to look into this because this is that 2709 02:45:30,750 --> 02:45:33,780 adds a little interesting dimension. But this clip I have, 2710 02:45:33,780 --> 02:45:38,250 which I think is kind of amusing is the it's kind of the salt in 2711 02:45:38,250 --> 02:45:42,660 the wound. This Russian clip says Russia wants money from the 2712 02:45:42,660 --> 02:45:43,200 Ukraine. 2713 02:45:44,910 --> 02:45:47,640 And many of those Ukrainian officers and sailors who've been 2714 02:45:47,640 --> 02:45:50,100 thrown off their boats and bases say they want to stay in the 2715 02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:53,550 Ukrainian Navy, they'll have to be reassigned somewhere else. 2716 02:45:53,790 --> 02:45:58,020 And if to add insult to injury, Libby as the Russian forces were 2717 02:45:58,020 --> 02:46:01,170 throwing the Ukrainians off those naval ships today, the 2718 02:46:01,170 --> 02:46:05,940 Russian Prime Minister issued on his Facebook page, something 2719 02:46:05,940 --> 02:46:08,580 saying that now that Crimea is part of Russia again, they're 2720 02:46:08,580 --> 02:46:11,220 going to try and get back the money they paid to Ukraine to 2721 02:46:11,220 --> 02:46:14,190 lease those bases in 2012 $11 billion. 2722 02:46:16,470 --> 02:46:20,610 That's a familiar number. Yeah, that's exactly the number that 2723 02:46:20,610 --> 02:46:25,050 the EU has to the IMF was going to come up with. So that's the 2724 02:46:25,050 --> 02:46:28,230 number that's where it's going, I guess. And then another 3 2725 02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:31,710 million to Russia, 3 billion to Russia for the gas. And then 2726 02:46:31,710 --> 02:46:36,150 there's I guess 2 billion leftover to snort. I have no 2727 02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:39,750 idea that's yet yeah, it's in crew. Yeah, it's a Nudelman and 2728 02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:43,320 I'm gonna have a good time. Then a good time. Well, good luck 2729 02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:45,750 with I think there's a religious element to this too, by the way. 2730 02:46:46,740 --> 02:46:49,680 This whole Ukraine thing? Yeah, we probably should look at it. I 2731 02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:53,910 think I think there's a Zionist versus Christian. 2732 02:46:54,119 --> 02:46:57,029 Yeah, it's a complicated orthodox Orthodox Christians and 2733 02:46:57,029 --> 02:46:59,549 Orthodox Christians. Yeah, Ukraine. One is the Russian 2734 02:46:59,549 --> 02:47:02,009 Orthodox and one the other one is the Orthodox orthodox. 2735 02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:12,600 Yeah, I think if you look at the yet yes, it's as a Jew I don't 2736 02:47:12,600 --> 02:47:13,800 know. I've confirmed 2737 02:47:13,800 --> 02:47:16,800 that everyone mess Yeah. Yeah, we involved 2738 02:47:16,800 --> 02:47:20,280 in it realise that rubble it realise it. Yeah. Well, Rob, 2739 02:47:20,280 --> 02:47:20,700 realising 2740 02:47:20,820 --> 02:47:23,220 this, getting back to square one, give Bechtel something to 2741 02:47:23,220 --> 02:47:23,550 do. 2742 02:47:23,880 --> 02:47:26,550 Hey, I gotta wind up with one little sequence here. Because 2743 02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:29,640 tonight, there will be something that you can watch, but it won't 2744 02:47:29,640 --> 02:47:33,780 give you any information. And it's is regarding Of course, 2745 02:47:33,780 --> 02:47:34,140 we're calling 2746 02:47:34,140 --> 02:47:35,850 American TV. It's called television. 2747 02:47:37,170 --> 02:47:41,460 It's called network television. This is the first report that 2748 02:47:41,490 --> 02:47:45,420 you probably read, although I think it's not entirely true. We 2749 02:47:45,420 --> 02:47:49,290 won't really know until tomorrow when the judge releases his his 2750 02:47:49,290 --> 02:47:50,520 opinion in Florida 2751 02:47:50,520 --> 02:47:53,730 an FBI agent has been cleared in the fatal shooting of a church 2752 02:47:53,730 --> 02:47:56,700 and man, Florida State Attorney will release his report on 2753 02:47:56,700 --> 02:48:01,590 Tuesday. 27 year old Ibrahim Todashev died while he was being 2754 02:48:01,590 --> 02:48:05,370 questioned about his friendship with timberland. darned if one 2755 02:48:05,370 --> 02:48:09,330 of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects are not yet later died 2756 02:48:09,330 --> 02:48:10,860 in a gun battle with police. 2757 02:48:11,519 --> 02:48:14,189 So the the word was run 2758 02:48:14,190 --> 02:48:16,710 over by his brother where they keep changing the story. 2759 02:48:20,130 --> 02:48:24,870 So total chef, the what is it the Ibrahim Todashev, the guy 2760 02:48:24,870 --> 02:48:30,360 who was shot in the back of the head by the FBI. So the judge 2761 02:48:30,360 --> 02:48:34,560 doesn't really publish his opinion until Monday. But 2762 02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:37,380 everyone was already saying, Oh, well informants tell us that the 2763 02:48:37,380 --> 02:48:40,110 FBI is getting Oh, Rachel Maddow, interestingly is all 2764 02:48:40,110 --> 02:48:45,090 over this and she has counted 151 episodes of the FBI shooting 2765 02:48:45,090 --> 02:48:50,730 someone killing them and have zero convictions of any agents 2766 02:48:50,730 --> 02:48:54,420 for doing that is all been fair kill. Now so here's the first 2767 02:48:54,420 --> 02:48:59,610 thing I want to say. I believe that when the FBI interviews a 2768 02:48:59,640 --> 02:49:05,220 interrogates a subject there's video to be admitted and there's 2769 02:49:05,220 --> 02:49:08,940 always video no matter where the in the cell no matter where 2770 02:49:08,940 --> 02:49:11,700 they're interrogating somebody there's a video camera running. 2771 02:49:12,990 --> 02:49:16,410 So for this to be even a question I just want to see the 2772 02:49:16,410 --> 02:49:20,580 video. So we'll see what comes of that tomorrow. Now the most 2773 02:49:20,580 --> 02:49:24,480 important thing we have been waiting for a very important 2774 02:49:24,480 --> 02:49:32,670 video, the video that shows the Sarnath brothers a placing the 2775 02:49:32,940 --> 02:49:37,950 bomb into the trash bin, as has been told to us. This is the 2776 02:49:37,950 --> 02:49:42,600 smoking gun, the smoking gun video. And when we were asking 2777 02:49:42,600 --> 02:49:46,860 about this video, a year ago, the governor of the state of 2778 02:49:46,860 --> 02:49:51,360 Massachusetts in which Boston is located claimed and I pulled the 2779 02:49:51,360 --> 02:49:56,460 clip that he knows the video proof is there but yet he hasn't 2780 02:49:56,460 --> 02:49:57,930 seen the video either. 2781 02:49:57,960 --> 02:50:00,180 Is there anything on the videotape that maybe the PA Look 2782 02:50:00,180 --> 02:50:03,270 hasn't seen about his reaction that was particularly telling 2783 02:50:03,450 --> 02:50:05,070 that movie investigation along 2784 02:50:06,810 --> 02:50:10,170 well the videotape is not something I've seen has been 2785 02:50:10,170 --> 02:50:17,100 described to me my briefings but it does seem to be pretty clear 2786 02:50:17,130 --> 02:50:26,370 that that this suspect took the backpack off, put it down did 2787 02:50:26,370 --> 02:50:30,990 not react when the first explosion went off and and then 2788 02:50:30,990 --> 02:50:34,980 moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion so 2789 02:50:34,980 --> 02:50:40,440 pretty pretty clear about his his involvement and pretty 2790 02:50:40,440 --> 02:50:42,150 chilling frankly, okay, 2791 02:50:42,150 --> 02:50:45,900 so and when I went back and listen to this i i also know 2792 02:50:45,900 --> 02:50:50,610 Okay, so the smoking gun consists of this guy putting 2793 02:50:50,610 --> 02:50:56,430 down the backpack and then for some reason, an explosion goes 2794 02:50:56,430 --> 02:51:00,300 off somewhere else, but he doesn't react to the explosion 2795 02:51:00,300 --> 02:51:05,100 which makes him guilty. Tonight on 60 minutes on American tale 2796 02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:11,460 of EG own on the telescreen there will be an IT WILL THE 60 2797 02:51:11,460 --> 02:51:14,100 minutes without will be 60 minutes, which is really about 2798 02:51:14,100 --> 02:51:19,890 34 After you subtract all the commercials 34 Tonight on CBS 34 2799 02:51:19,890 --> 02:51:23,910 minutes, they will look at this entire bombing sequence and I 2800 02:51:23,910 --> 02:51:28,860 have a promo of what's the Who's the guy that runs a 60 minute 2801 02:51:28,860 --> 02:51:33,510 show. pelle, pelle, Pelle does he run et le le and he talks 2802 02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:36,810 about this video and who has seen it what's in it what will 2803 02:51:36,810 --> 02:51:39,450 happen with it and women it will be shown to the public. I 2804 02:51:39,450 --> 02:51:42,690 thought I found this to be a thrilling update. 2805 02:51:42,930 --> 02:51:46,650 It turned out the evidence that would solve the case had been 2806 02:51:46,650 --> 02:51:51,750 collected before the first bomb exploded that Monday, the FBI 2807 02:51:51,750 --> 02:51:55,320 could travel back in time through the lenses, dozens of 2808 02:51:55,320 --> 02:51:57,930 security cameras travelling up and down Boylston, 2809 02:51:58,440 --> 02:52:03,390 almost 13,000 different videos were obtained. And 120,000 2810 02:52:03,420 --> 02:52:06,660 actually more than 120,000 still photographs 2811 02:52:07,290 --> 02:52:12,810 at the FBI lab in Virginia 120 analysts were searching video 2812 02:52:12,810 --> 02:52:16,080 feeds from Boston. What are you looking for somebody who just 2813 02:52:16,080 --> 02:52:19,950 doesn't look similar to others in a crowd who had been watching 2814 02:52:19,980 --> 02:52:24,390 a race? Was there a eureka moment in terms of the video? 2815 02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:27,300 But at some point, somebody said, Hey, boss, have a look at 2816 02:52:27,300 --> 02:52:31,560 this. Yes, it was. It was I believe, a Wednesday morning and 2817 02:52:31,800 --> 02:52:35,820 we watched that video hundreds and hundreds of times. It's got 2818 02:52:35,820 --> 02:52:38,040 good morning. Good morning, Charlie. Nora, great to be with 2819 02:52:38,040 --> 02:52:41,730 you what surprised you most about what they had? Well, the 2820 02:52:41,730 --> 02:52:43,770 people we just heard from Charlie that's written to 2821 02:52:43,770 --> 02:52:47,100 Laurier, the Special Agent in Charge of Boston who's in charge 2822 02:52:47,100 --> 02:52:50,220 of the overall investigation. And the woman was Stephanie 2823 02:52:50,220 --> 02:52:53,250 Douglas, who was the number three at the FBI FBI 2824 02:52:53,250 --> 02:52:56,400 headquarters and she was running the investigation from up there. 2825 02:52:56,610 --> 02:52:59,970 I think the thing that surprised me the most was the manpower 2826 02:52:59,970 --> 02:53:05,310 just the sheer manpower at least 1000 agents and analysts working 2827 02:53:05,310 --> 02:53:08,970 on this case all at once, which is how they were able to solve 2828 02:53:08,970 --> 02:53:11,040 this in just 101 hours. 2829 02:53:11,160 --> 02:53:15,690 It's incredible, the massive crime scene and then 120,000 2830 02:53:15,690 --> 02:53:18,840 still photographs I've never heard that before. What was the 2831 02:53:18,840 --> 02:53:21,480 moment that they thought they had something that they had the 2832 02:53:21,480 --> 02:53:24,060 pictures of the Sarnia brothers of photo 2833 02:53:24,060 --> 02:53:28,710 analyst in Boston going through the video again and again and 2834 02:53:28,710 --> 02:53:33,840 again. Notice this video that has not been seen in public in 2835 02:53:33,840 --> 02:53:38,580 which the first bomb goes off you don't see that but everybody 2836 02:53:38,580 --> 02:53:42,720 in the shot in the video looks suddenly to their left in shock 2837 02:53:42,720 --> 02:53:48,540 and surprise. Except one guy. He doesn't look doesn't turn around 2838 02:53:48,720 --> 02:53:50,010 isn't surprised. 2839 02:53:50,250 --> 02:53:54,000 Wow, that is that's a reason to be guilty 2840 02:53:54,030 --> 02:53:58,590 and he walks away and earlier in that video he had placed a 2841 02:53:58,590 --> 02:54:03,180 backpack on the ground 20 seconds after he walks out of 2842 02:54:03,180 --> 02:54:08,250 the frame the backpack explodes killing an eight year old boy 2843 02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:12,780 taking the leg from his seven year old sister and wounding 2844 02:54:12,780 --> 02:54:15,060 many other people right there around that backpack now 2845 02:54:15,060 --> 02:54:18,870 before we wrap this clip up what I think what I think I'm hearing 2846 02:54:19,770 --> 02:54:23,640 what I think I'm hearing is they don't actually have the shot of 2847 02:54:23,640 --> 02:54:24,960 the backpack exploding. 2848 02:54:27,000 --> 02:54:30,420 Like they should it sounds like they don't see it that he put it 2849 02:54:30,420 --> 02:54:32,790 in a garbage can and that thought that whole thing was 2850 02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:34,590 about the thing being in a garbage can. Yeah, 2851 02:54:34,620 --> 02:54:37,830 no. So it's not in the garbage to the store. Yes. And but 2852 02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:42,270 listen to what he says. He says the damning evidence they have 2853 02:54:42,300 --> 02:54:46,380 is an explosion happens. Everyone looks except for the 2854 02:54:46,380 --> 02:54:50,070 Sarnath boy and then earlier in the tape, they have him putting 2855 02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:53,070 a backpack on the ground but for some reason I don't think they 2856 02:54:53,070 --> 02:54:59,580 have the backpack exploding on video, which is why we have not 2857 02:54:59,580 --> 02:55:02,220 seen it yet. And the question is that that was 2858 02:55:02,220 --> 02:55:06,570 the eureka moment. And frankly, we're told that it is so 2859 02:55:06,570 --> 02:55:11,550 horrific that they literally watched it 400 times to make 2860 02:55:11,550 --> 02:55:14,940 sure they understood what was going on. But it took a toll on 2861 02:55:14,940 --> 02:55:18,210 everyone, including the director of the FBI when they saw it. 2862 02:55:18,240 --> 02:55:22,410 What do you mean by told Charlie after the bomb explodes, and you 2863 02:55:22,410 --> 02:55:25,650 see what is left there of the people who were standing around 2864 02:55:25,650 --> 02:55:28,470 the backpack. It's a horrific scene, particularly because 2865 02:55:28,470 --> 02:55:31,410 their children, Stephanie Douglas describes in our 60 2866 02:55:31,410 --> 02:55:35,730 Minutes story, that there is a man on fire, His clothes are on 2867 02:55:35,730 --> 02:55:40,500 fire, and a police officer leaps on him with his bare hands and 2868 02:55:40,500 --> 02:55:45,390 puts the fire out with his bare hands with no concern for his 2869 02:55:45,390 --> 02:55:49,740 own safety. And it's apparently an incredibly moving video. It's 2870 02:55:49,740 --> 02:55:52,110 not likely to be seen by anyone until the trial. 2871 02:55:52,140 --> 02:55:56,490 No. Okay. So I want to I want to tell you something about 2872 02:55:56,490 --> 02:56:01,650 American television before you okay, if this video was 2873 02:56:01,650 --> 02:56:07,110 available, if law enforcement had this video, it would be on 2874 02:56:07,110 --> 02:56:08,790 TV now. 2875 02:56:09,630 --> 02:56:12,540 I agree with that. Also, if there was a guy on fire running 2876 02:56:12,540 --> 02:56:15,690 around, somebody would have filmed it and it would have been 2877 02:56:15,690 --> 02:56:21,030 on YouTube. Yes. And they changed the story from the 2878 02:56:21,030 --> 02:56:23,220 garbage can which they can't seem to find the video and drop 2879 02:56:23,220 --> 02:56:25,290 it in the garbage can to now it's been just left on the 2880 02:56:25,290 --> 02:56:29,640 street casually. Which is a problem as far as I can tell. 2881 02:56:30,600 --> 02:56:32,760 It's just no it's not a 2882 02:56:33,660 --> 02:56:36,600 they are building non-credible. They're building the narrative. 2883 02:56:37,650 --> 02:56:39,690 They're building the story. 2884 02:56:39,780 --> 02:56:44,310 One more thing, one more thing. The horrendous aspect of it that 2885 02:56:44,310 --> 02:56:46,290 we can't see it. That's why you haven't seen it because it's so 2886 02:56:46,290 --> 02:56:52,290 horrible. To harkens back to the 911 tapes about Sandy Hook, 2887 02:56:52,290 --> 02:56:56,580 which nobody would play. We played those tapes on this show. 2888 02:56:56,640 --> 02:56:57,030 Yeah. And 2889 02:56:57,030 --> 02:57:00,750 how horrible were they? There was nothing on them. There was 2890 02:57:00,750 --> 02:57:02,430 nothing, nothing a teacher. 2891 02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:05,220 What are you doing? I don't know. There's some guy roaming 2892 02:57:05,220 --> 02:57:08,040 around with a gun teach you a shot, you know, ask him what 2893 02:57:08,040 --> 02:57:08,730 he's doing. 2894 02:57:09,029 --> 02:57:14,819 I'm the custodian. I'm the custodian. Yeah. That's a lie. 2895 02:57:14,819 --> 02:57:20,039 Yeah. Yeah. And then the tape will never be shown is going to 2896 02:57:20,039 --> 02:57:24,299 be shown in a closed court setting. You'll have a what 2897 02:57:24,299 --> 02:57:28,409 we'll have is a drawing of people watching the video in 2898 02:57:28,409 --> 02:57:30,629 court with their hand to their mouth like Hillary in the 2899 02:57:30,629 --> 02:57:37,919 Situation Room. We will not see the video because this is a lie. 2900 02:57:42,420 --> 02:57:45,930 Yeah, that would have been played over and over again. And 2901 02:57:45,930 --> 02:57:48,990 why would you watch it 400 times this? What is it that even make 2902 02:57:48,990 --> 02:57:54,240 any sense? We watched it a bunch of people watched it 400 times 2903 02:57:54,270 --> 02:57:54,600 that is 2904 02:57:54,600 --> 02:57:58,530 to say to build the story that the the people who count the 2905 02:57:58,530 --> 02:58:02,280 people who call the shots in this country, they know but you 2906 02:58:02,280 --> 02:58:06,390 don't need to know because you can't handle. You can't handle 2907 02:58:06,390 --> 02:58:09,180 the truth. You can't handle Osama bin Laden has pictures of 2908 02:58:09,180 --> 02:58:13,440 him dead you can't handle that 911 tapes and you can't handle 2909 02:58:13,440 --> 02:58:18,150 that you slave. Although a child by the time the child is of age 2910 02:58:18,150 --> 02:58:21,510 has seen more murders and killings on television than 2911 02:58:21,510 --> 02:58:27,240 actually occur in their own town for real. You can't handle it. 2912 02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:32,310 Shut up slave. Trust us. We're the government. We're here 2913 02:58:32,310 --> 02:58:38,700 protecting your privacy and your freedom. And you can but we 2914 02:58:38,700 --> 02:58:42,300 watched it 400 times just to make sure it's those guys. 2915 02:58:43,650 --> 02:58:47,640 Justice is served. And otherwise, this is the best 2916 02:58:47,640 --> 02:58:49,740 country in the world. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I 2917 02:58:49,740 --> 02:58:51,990 have to say I've lived in a couple of other countries. I 2918 02:58:51,990 --> 02:58:57,870 like this one the best. Because at least I'm armed here. FEMA 2919 02:58:57,870 --> 02:59:05,010 Oh. And I'm gonna go back to Column C q1. 12 metres is Quito, 2920 02:59:05,010 --> 02:59:09,270 Fox five Shara Lima November. I think I'll do some CW. 2921 02:59:10,830 --> 02:59:14,700 Good for you. I think you should always be on the CW. I'm always 2922 02:59:14,700 --> 02:59:15,300 on the CW 2923 02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:20,670 is we're gonna do another show on Thursday. The club sounds 2924 02:59:20,670 --> 02:59:23,100 like the club will open on Thursday. So we look forward to 2925 02:59:23,100 --> 02:59:25,590 seeing all of you there with some support for us. We'd like 2926 02:59:25,590 --> 02:59:31,680 to see that donor segment a little bit longer. Go mind. And 2927 02:59:31,680 --> 02:59:36,810 with that, I say kittens and courage. Coming to you from FEMA 2928 02:59:36,810 --> 02:59:40,800 Region six here in the capital of the drone Star State in the 2929 02:59:40,800 --> 02:59:42,990 morning. I'm Adam curry 2930 02:59:43,050 --> 02:59:46,050 and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C. 2931 02:59:46,080 --> 02:59:47,370 Dvorak. We'll be back 2932 02:59:48,330 --> 02:59:51,480 on Thursday right here on no agenda. 2933 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:18,870 I woke it up at science. That's one hot baby. 2934 03:00:24,750 --> 03:00:28,500 Devora uk.org/n A