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They take it as truth they take
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Truth destroyed,

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destroyed computers destroy
computers. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak. Thursday, December
19 2013. Time Period Gitmo

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nation media assassination
episode 575.

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This is no agenda,

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reading the report and
recommendations of the

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President's Review Group on
Intelligence and Communications

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Technology so you don't have to
hear and feel region six in the

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morning. I'm Adam curry.

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And for brother Silicon Valley
where it's sunny, it's cold, and

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everything is going great for
the locals. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Dragwon.

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Buzzkill.

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We're happy everything's going
great for the locals.

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Going great for the locals. Wow.

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Yeah, since everyone there is
rich, living it up Silicon

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Valley.

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I'm one is reflecting that.
Apparently. It's just horrible.

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I'm lucky to be here. I'm lucky
to be alive. I'm so sick. This

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is this is now

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you're still sick. Wait a
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last show?

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I didn't tell. I only told you
after the show that I was sick.

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I didn't even tell you during
the show. Because?

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No, because you sound fine. And
you sound fine. Now I think

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you're faking it.

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Yeah. Here's what happened one
week ago, after the show on

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Thursday. I went to a
fundraising event for ham, the

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Health Alliance ham, it's h a m
am Pam harm, harm, harm. The

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Health Alliance for Austin
musicians which gives gives

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health care to 1000s of Austin
musicians who are poor and on

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the street. Even those who
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afford it. And I got sick some
someone gave me something some

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horrible bug and it really
should kiss. Not just

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handshaking, kissing is not
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handshake is worse handshake.
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so it was really really bad. And
you know it was in my head

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sinuses and then we did the show
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collapsed after the show. I've
been in bed and really weird

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like my back hurt and my my
lungs are congested. And then

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this report comes in yesterday
from Houston, the only

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Police officials here with the
health department are on a

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mission to find out more about
this mystery, flu like illness.

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They don't want to scare the
public but there is no question

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this is serious. And it's
raising both questions and

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concerns. So far, there are
eight confirmed victims and four

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of those patients have died.
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Now here's the thing, baffling
doctors all of these patients

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have had flu like and or
pneumonia like symptoms and all

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have tested negative for the flu
sources are telling us tonight

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that two of the surviving
patients are being treated at

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Conroe Regional Medical Centre
and are very sick. We are being

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told that doctors at this
hospital and others in

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montgomery county are being
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to prevent this from spreading.
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appears to be causing kidney
failure at this point. We do not

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know if any of these patients
had pre existing conditions. The

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montgomery county health
department is waiting on more

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conclusive test results hoping
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exactly what they are dealing
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go. Half of the people who have
apparently what I have are dead.

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flu like symptoms between the
flu. Yeah, between the ages of

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41 and 68. Kidney failure. I
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Right during the show. This
would not be a good thing for

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the future of this show.

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No, we're not. But have no fear.
I have a condom over my mic. So

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I can't infect anyone on the
show today. Everything should be

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okay. But I knew I need to get
better. I get the kids coming

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tomorrow night then yeah,
Christina is coming. Oh

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yeah, it's gonna be nuthouse
here. It's going to be crazy.

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Let's the kids would kids. You
talking about my kid Christina

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and her girlfriend. They're
coming from Rotterdam. They're

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coming for two weeks.

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What happened? And I kid Dixon?
What? Didn't you have a

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boyfriend and Dixon or something
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Dexter, Dexter, they're having a
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Dixie is doing great actually.
They're still very good friends.

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And they talk a lot and Dexter
went from because it's very hard

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to find a job and he's he's very
in England in the UK and very

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hard to find work. So he for a
while was a Domino's Pizza

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delivery. But of course, like
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delivery, he essentially
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pizza. And he did that for a
while but he thought to step it

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up a bit and he started growing
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in London. Dexter is a very
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Did he get busted?

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I think his dad busted him. But
then he was like, Oh, I can't

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believe so. When was was growing
weed in your apartment? Dad?

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That's not I guess he finally
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funny. Yeah, we'd like Dexter.
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that this is a weird I have I
have a body buzz you know, my

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whole body is kind of buzzing so
I don't know maybe I had a body

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buzz Yeah. Yeah, so my body's
buzzing. Me buzz would you like

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your your fingertips and your
your arms? Just buzz a little

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bit? Is this weird? Really?
You've never heard of a body

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buzz? I'm sorry. Well, anyway,
but I'm here and I spend all day

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in bed down

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fine. So you don't have
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Well, pneumonia is the lung
thing, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.

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Well, I had severe pain in my my
shoulders and my lungs, and I

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have I'm coughing and it's
congested.

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You sound fine. This can't be
bad. By the way. This is the old

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you sound fine, then you're
dead.

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Can you just say I sound crappy.
That made me feel much better.

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I'd be better

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idea. Jeez. Anyway, so I didn't
know what they don't know what

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this is. It's just something
like some crazy thing going

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around. I have no idea. Only in
Texas. Well, it's

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Houston is where the report came
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you're in Austin. So Oh, yeah,
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far enough away. Sure.

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Were there any Houstonian
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You know, it was it was a bunch
of rich douchebags. And the

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whole idea is to kind of extract
money from them. I do the whole

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thing that I didn't like it at
all. I didn't like how that went

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down. The whole thing was not
not fun for me. I got to talk to

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these people. I'm not going to
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It's we don't need to go into
it. But I you know, I tried to

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spend some time on some some
charity, you know, we tried to

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do something.

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And it was not I was gonna kill
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Can you just give me a read for
a second? Because there's I got

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a home on you. That is crazy. I
want to see if I can get rid of

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I don't know. It could be any
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anything because I'm over on the
other side of the plates. It

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could be the machine hum and it
could be I don't know. Here's

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the kind of for people out
there. Listen to the show. We

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got a few. Let me give you a
little clip tease. All right. We

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got coming up anti American Mid
Pacific on Russia today. All

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right, no one cares.

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And we're fine. I think it's on
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going on. It doesn't. It's not
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I mean, it's buzzing to me.
Rooms buzzing alright. So what

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should you maybe do? Maybe your
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could be the body buzz. All
right. So where do you want to

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start? Because I already teased
what I've been doing what I

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spent yesterday, struggle,
really ploughing through 308

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pages of the report and
recommendations of the

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President's Review Group on
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Technologies.

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Which is kind of weird to start
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little I did some reading myself
and I have a couple of things to

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go into. But yours is probably
what did you like is more like

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what what is your read Oscar
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No, I read the the the indicted
or the court case that said that

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the NSA was violating the
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Good. Let's start there. And let
me just to get everyone all

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clued in Hold on a second. I
have this. I have a clip to set

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us up. And then I want to

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get your clip to set it up. I
want to play my clip to set it

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up because my my thought went to
a dead end. All right. Well,

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I'm glad you read that complaint
because I haven't here's my

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setup. A federal

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judge in Washington ruled today
that the government's collection

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of phone records of millions of
Americans is likely

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unconstitutional. It is the
first time that a federal court

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has ruled against the once
secret surveillance programme,

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which was exposed by National
Security Agency leaker Edward

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Snowden. In a blistering attack,
Judge Richard Leon said he has

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little doubt that the author of
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would be aghast at what Judge
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unreasonable search.

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Okay, that's my setup. What is
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Well, mine is Glen. Glen. Glen.
Glen when I fall who was an

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appalling you know, Obama bot
extraordinaire, since you wrote

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a book on him. Yes. And so I
heard this clip and then I went

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and listened to he had a similar
cup to one you played from

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France van cat, where the guy
goes, he quotes from the from

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the complaint, which actually
discusses, the guy does say it

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sounds it's Orwellian. Yes,
that's in the complaint, right.

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It's in the complaint, so the
French guys, but I felt soft

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peddled the whole thing so much
that I thought that she was kind

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of wrong. But then I went and
looked at the thing. This word

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got me to read it, and she was
actually right and probably more

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objective, but let's play her
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thing. A federal judge ruled
today that the National Security

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Agency's bulk collection of
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unconstitutional. Judge Richard
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calls was an unreasonable search
and violated Americans

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reasonable expectation of
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on hold pending a likely
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more on today's ruling right
after the news summary.

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Okay. I thought that her use of
the word likely unconstitutional

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was was kind of a soft pet.

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That was the same they did in
the in the CBS thing. They also

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he also used the likely word.

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The judge used it. I mean, he
essentially said, okay, so that

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was not misreporting as I was
suspecting it was. He

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essentially what he did was he
he said, This is horrible.

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They're obvious. He says he
never said it was a fact. But he

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says his obviously they have a
great case here. They're going

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to it's a Fourth Amendment
violation of Fifth Amendment

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violation and a First Amendment
violation, which nobody brought

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up in the news. But the most
most newsworthy or most

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interesting thing for the no
agenda, thinking is this little

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tidbit that everybody seemed to
overlook. Nobody wanted to bring

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it up. And I'll read it for a
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that before you do that, who is
this law? Who was fired who has

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filed this lawsuit?

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Larry Clayman, founder of
freedom, watch, okay, so

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this is a guy who sues a lot.
Public Interest

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organisation. Yeah, he's in he
does just to get Yeah, to get

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the Supreme Court. Right. Okay.
He does the same thing as the

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ACLU does, only he beat him to
it. In fact, people have talked

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about him beating the ACLU to
the punch on this right. Which

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makes you wonder, but anyway,
but here's the thing about it.

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It's not just climbing or
claiming. It says, It is the

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attorney Larry Clayman, founder
of freedom watch a public

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interest charges and Charles
strange. Now, here's the

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interesting part. Charles
Strange is the father of Michael

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strange, a cryptologist.
technician for the NSA, and

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support personnel for Navy SEAL
Team Six, who was killed in

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Afghanistan when his helicopter
was shot down in 2011. Oh,

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that's interesting. Don't you
think that is kind of

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newsworthy? That would be clip
of the day if it was a clip? I

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don't have a clip. No, I

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know. But that's Wow. That's a
great find. And he's a CO CO

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Charles Strange is the CO lead
complainant or complaint

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plaintiff, plaintiff, plaintiff,
he's the CO plaintiff. And they

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just mentioned, we're a bunch of
lawyers, aren't we? We're not

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lawyers. We're not pretending to
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besides that, we got it right.
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interesting. And it says they
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assert, which is strange and
claiming and how they got it got

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this did happen. They asserted
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Wireless, and they bring suit
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Justice, several executives,
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Alexander and the District Judge
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Verizon and CEO. Good. This is
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the judge himself stayed his he
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Yeah. But he said, but but I'm
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there's going to be an appeal
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He says you're going to stay at
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gonna be a lot more paperwork.
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government.

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This guy is just trying to make
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Well, no, the

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way you read this thing. This is
a very good case. Uh huh. The

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judges tried the judges just, he
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is also legit. It's very well
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So there's a couple things. This
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know about the father of the of
the dead navy seal. And why

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would he specifically be filing
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the same complaint, right?

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Yeah. Well, I was thinking about
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what's why it's going to be a
fun case to watch. They're going

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for discovery. Yeah, just so we
can feel man. Yeah, yeah.

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Thanks. Something's fishy about
that bullcrap. That week when it

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came out in 2011. We talked
about it extensively on the show

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how half the team was wiped out
in this crazy helicopter crash

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out of the blue. What were they
doing? What

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wasn't the crash that was shot
down? Yeah, they were brought

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down by a stinger or aldehyde or
something bad or harsh? But

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yeah, well, of course it had USA
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stingers.

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So I think strangers after
after.

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That's good. Now it's
interesting because it's, I

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didn't pull any clips from it.
This guy who's the the other

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plaintiff from freedom. Okay. He
was on CNN last night. And Don

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Lemon kicked him off. He
actually kicked him off the toll

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this producer guy shot his mic.
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but it shows just how, how
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try and shut this case down, and
how not a single word is uttered

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about this father. I think that
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turns out however, if you listen
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there was another case just a
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opposite took place, or then an
opposite ruling. And she really

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wants this to go to the Supreme
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Well, this was not the first
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hearing of a case, the case of
someone providing financial and

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other support to Al Shabaab, it
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District of California, the
judge was Jeffrey Miller, he

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found that that two to 215
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And the point of issue was
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one case a month ago, which has
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seen and you have the case of a
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reported on extensively. And
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means that clearly, it's going
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the Supreme Court, and I very
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take the case.

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Okay, so this, I think, is a
setup, John, whichever case, you

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look at the the spider in the
middle of the web, but Dianne

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Feinstein wants it to go to the
Supreme Court. So it's a setup.

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Not necessarily. You're you're
saying we're doomed to be upset

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that you're saying that this
judge who wrote is very nice

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piece is corrupt or in some
none? Like why No.

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Well, he I think what what I,
the way it's been reported, he

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stayed his judgement, because be
too much paperwork, because it's

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going to be appeal anyway. So he
knows. The whole point is we

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need to take it one step higher,
which I guess would ultimately

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be the Supreme Court. Well, I

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think yeah, I think he's
assuming that right. And it

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seems like What are you
implying, though, is the setup

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so the Supreme Court can say no,
it's fine. We can we get to hell

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with the Fourth Amendment. You
got Scalia in there? I don't

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think that's going to happen.
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know what, it's this is what
I've learned. And let me lead in

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with this clip today and
investigative panel raised some

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serious concerns and recommended
some dramatic changes at the

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NSA. The 46 recommendations
spelled out in the 300 page

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report are surprising and
sweeping. The panel chosen by

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President Obama is urging that
the NSA stop collecting and

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mining phone calls from
Americans. The advisors say that

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surveillance programme creates
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personal privacy and civil
liberty. They also urge that

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spying on foreign citizens,
including world leaders must be

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carried out by a duly enacted
law or executive order, and must

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be excessively directed at
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interests. Okay, so that's the
lead into this 308 page report,

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which I ploughed through.

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You read this thing before you
do it before you go there. On my

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desk interesting to do you have
the list of the people that are

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on this, this Do people have
reproduced this report. You're a

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bunch of white students. Hello,

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this is how my this is how it
starts off. Of course I have

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that. Okay. I

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want you to read those names
because it includes of all

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people that guy Richard Clark,
well,

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look, no, no, no backup, backup
backup. All on scroll to that.

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Okay. Richard Clark, you want to
explain who Richard Clark is

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Dick Clark?

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Yeah, Dick Clark, who's been
we've seen him since we began

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this show. This character has
been on and off the news. And

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he's, he's essentially he's an
ex CIA guy who was just began

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his career in media, by bitching
about the fact that he knew all

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about the that Osama bin Laden
was a bad guy and he was part of

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he was him and that bearded guy
that other character went on and

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on about how they nobody
listened to them when they said

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this is going to happen. And
then and then he went from one

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thing to another and Richard
Clarke finally ended up seeing

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that there was a bonanza in
cybercrime, right, anything

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right?

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Okay. That's just one of the
names. The next name is Michael

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J. Morrell.

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Wherever we heard that name.
Come on, he's

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another x agency guy, isn't he?

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He's the guy who's on his way
out. He's the Alright, He's the

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assistant. He's the Deputy
Director of the CIA. 33 years

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he's on his way out gonna write
a great book. He did his first

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interview ever. Recently. You'll
recall that Yep. Then we have a

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Jeffrey R stone is the next on
the list. This is the this is

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the cover. This is I think the
guy he wrote most of this is the

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lawyer of course from Chicago.
Chicago Law School. Got to have

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your Chicago shield in there.
Very Very famous, and very well

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respected lawyer, I would say if
you look at his book of

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knowledge entry, you can see all
of the things that he has done,

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but I thought, you know, the,
the Chicago connection makes a

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lot of sense. And of course,
he's in a number of the boards

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of a number of interesting
organisations and you right,

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being the operative

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word, yeah. Then we have Cass
Sunstein of Cass Sunstein is of

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course, the husband of our
current ambassador to the United

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Nations, Susan power, powers
power. Cass Sunstein authored

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the paper where he said that the
authorities, the federal

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authorities need to infiltrate
groups of people talking crazy,

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like us to

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another, we're never gonna get
infiltrated. We don't have

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guests. All right.

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So Cass Sunstein is a is a known
operative when it comes to

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disinformation. And he writes
about it this is this is what he

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wants what he specialty. Then
Peter Swire is the other guy who

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to round out this list. He is
professor of business, I

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believe, but most importantly,
he's a big wave over there at

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the he's a senior fellow at the
Centre for American Progress. So

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he is a super, super left wing
Obama bot, who got thrown in

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there, these guys were
handpicked. And this is this is

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almost like the 911 Commission.
You know, it's really it's it's

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not the people you want to have
some kind of independence.

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That was somebody that somebody
on Democracy Now they have a

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clip, but it's not important,
mentioned that the the entire

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operation was was office and
worked under the under clapper.

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Oh, he was the manager of the
whole thing makes

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total sense. Makes total sense.
And I have marked up this entire

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document. We're not going to do
all of that. But I encourage you

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to go to 575, that na
shownotes.com and take a look at

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it. And I've highlighted
relevant, relevant passages. And

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I think I kind of know where
they're going with this. And the

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way the media is reporting on
this is this panel. And no one

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ever says who's on I find that
interesting. We're the as far as

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I know, we're the only media
outlet that has said, hey, if

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the X is the CIA guy, it's Cass
Sunstein. It's Richard Clarke.

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Are you kidding me? No, they all
say, handpicked by the White

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House. Even Glenn Greenwald
hasn't mentioned the names,

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which leads me to believe
they're just parroting what they

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hear. No one is no one actually
ever looks at this stuff. And

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let it know. And by the way, I
almost did die ploughing through

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this. It's really it's a lot.
There's a lot of legalese. But

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it's a very interesting history
of how FISA and the F and the n

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the Foreign Intelligence Service
court came to be there is it is

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well worth reading, just to
understand, because it really

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goes back to the 1970s to the
Church Committee, where that's

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where the FISA Court was
created. And there's a lot of

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that history in here and I cross
reference everything even put

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some links into the book of
knowledge. And there's a couple

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of things that, you know, they
start off by saying, well,

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traditional distinctions between
foreign and domestic are very

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unclear today, you know, there's
a lot of this fuzzy wuzzy stuff.

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And essentially, this document
is saying the same thing three

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times over, which I think is
what most good documents do, is,

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you know, you say it short, you
say it a little bit longer. And

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then you say it really, really
long with all of your sources

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and all of your important stuff
in there. And as with

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everything, every recommendation
they make everything they say

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should change, which the media
is running with as well, this,

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this panel says the NSA should
no longer store the data, the

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metadata in the document itself,
which is bearing down on who

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this has got to be page like
more like 79 and we'll see if I

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can scroll to a real fast.

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Second, third party,

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the NSA itself is happy with the
recommendation it says that in

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the document is happy with the
recommendation of not having to

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store all this data themselves
because a it's very costly, and

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it's really complicated. B They
can't get it from everybody. And

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so they would much more prefer
that they had real time in this

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document real time interfaces to
all all providers data so that

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they can do this on the fly when
they have the appropriate

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approval which will be just as
simple as ever

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And they want to use a
distributed database and

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everybody else's storage

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facility. Yes. And it says in
the document, the NSA is happy

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with this recommendation. They
wanted to do it anyway. It

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literally says that in the
document. So for the media to

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say, Oh, this is Oh, they boy,
they hit him on the phone, those

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wrap their knuckles didn't make
bullshit. They give me exactly

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what they want, exactly what
they want. And here's the thing

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that we're the legalese that is
coming into play and why I think

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that this is go and this has
been to the Supreme Court

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multiple times the Fourth
Amendment, the Supreme Court

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ruled that wiretapping is not
unconstitutional against the

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Fourth Amendment. This is what
this has already been hashed

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out, many, many times. And they
just it's we're like the boiling

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frogs. You know, this is just
another one more, we got to go

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through one more step than we
really got all these stupid

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human resources. And the
approach is very interesting

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chapter one principles in this
document. The United States

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Government must protect at once
two different forms of security,

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national security and personal
privacy. Now, here's the

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trickiness John, and you're
gonna love what they're doing

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here. In the American, I'm
reading from this document in

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the American tradition, the word
security has had multiple

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meanings. Uh huh. Were you aware
of this, John?

447
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,840
I am now

448
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:29,160
in contemporary parlance, it
often refers to national

449
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,750
security or Homeland Security.
Thus understood it signals the

450
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:36,180
immense importance of
counteracting threats that come

451
00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:39,570
from those who seek to do the
nation and its citizens harm.

452
00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:42,930
One of the government's most
fundamental responsibilities is

453
00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:48,870
to protect this form of security
broadly understood. Now, and

454
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:52,680
then it goes into whole thing
about September 11. At the same

455
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,670
time, the idea of security
refers to a quite different and

456
00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:00,480
equally fundamental value,
captured in the Fourth Amendment

457
00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:03,480
to the United States
Constitution. The right of the

458
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,580
people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and

459
00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:11,910
effects against unreasonable
searches and seizures shall not

460
00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:16,440
be violated. This form of
security is a central component

461
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:19,500
of the right of privacy, which
the Supreme Court Justice Louis

462
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:22,680
Brandeis famously described as
the right to be let alone the

463
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,650
most comprehensive of rights and
the most valued by civilised

464
00:27:25,650 --> 00:27:31,470
men. And then they go into set
to literally look at the

465
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:37,560
etymology of the word security.
It might seem puzzling or a

466
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,100
coincidence of language, that
the word security embodies such

467
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:44,310
different values, but the
etymology of the word solves the

468
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:48,900
puzzle. Haha, there is no
coincidence here. In Latin the

469
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:53,250
word Securus offers the core
meanings which include free from

470
00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:58,530
care quiet, easy, and also
tranquil, free from danger and

471
00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:02,010
safe. People who are at physical
risk because of a threat of

472
00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:05,460
external violence are by
definition in danger, they are

473
00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:09,690
not safe. So to people made
insecure by their own government

474
00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:12,990
in their persons, houses, papers
and effects can hardly be free

475
00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:16,530
from care or tranquil. And
indeed, the first sentence of

476
00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:20,940
the Constitution juxtaposes the
two values explicitly using the

477
00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:25,920
word secure. Meaning and now
they're saying secure means

478
00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:30,300
liberty and prosperity and the
right to the pursuit of

479
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,580
happiness, to they're trying to
twist the word secure into

480
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:39,480
something the government has to
protect you from and against

481
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:45,150
yourself, so that you can have
secure ie liberty. And they're

482
00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:49,260
saying that the secure the the
meaning of secure kind of also

483
00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:52,950
means you have to have liberty.
So we have to protect that by

484
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:56,700
looking at your shit. Does that
make any sense?

485
00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:02,070
Well, I can see what what it's
trying to make sense, but it

486
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:05,760
doesn't in fact, make sense and
and to go back to the etymology

487
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,180
of well known terms, I mean, you
can't is like pretty, it's

488
00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:12,420
pretty specious, I'd say is it's
like as Jimmy it's totally

489
00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:15,780
specious. It's a total gimmick.
And so they're trying to find

490
00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:19,530
anything they can to rationalise
what they're up to. Well, I

491
00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:22,500
mean, I was watching just as a
side clip here, which is part of

492
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:28,620
this. I was, saw Chris Matthews
had Obama on and Obama and the

493
00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:32,040
weird thing was Matthews had
then it was a sit down someplace

494
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,880
other than the studio.

495
00:29:32,909 --> 00:29:35,399
This is that tour that he did
remember, I remember I told you

496
00:29:35,399 --> 00:29:37,289
that he was doing a tour on the
President's Right,

497
00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:41,580
right. Exactly what it was.
Yeah. And so Matthews is like

498
00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:46,410
his mouth was kind of a gape.
The whole time that Obama said

499
00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:51,210
it, well, he has those kind of
like, well, no, I think he was

500
00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:56,610
actually stunned. Oh, because he
had that look of the is a

501
00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:59,310
cartoon looked at the Simpsons
used ones where the mouth is

502
00:29:59,310 --> 00:30:03,780
kind of open. be like yeah in
shock Ah, but it because you

503
00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:06,300
can't say anything because
you're like the number one Obama

504
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:10,770
but currently in the in the
MSNBC place but but listen to

505
00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:14,100
this nonsense from Obama

506
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:17,370
I've said before and I will say
again the NSA actually does a

507
00:30:17,370 --> 00:30:24,330
very good job about not engaging
in domestic surveillance, not

508
00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:28,290
reading people's emails not
listening to the contents of

509
00:30:28,290 --> 00:30:33,810
their phone calls outside of our
borders, the NSA is more

510
00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:38,040
aggressive. It's not constrained
by laws. And part of what we're

511
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,880
trying to do over the next month
or so is having done an

512
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,790
independent review and brought a
whole bunch of folks, civil

513
00:30:44,790 --> 00:30:49,080
libertarians and lawyers and
others to examine what's being

514
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:56,670
done. I'll be proposing some
self restraint on the NSA and to

515
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,190
initiate some reforms that can
give people more confidence.

516
00:30:59,459 --> 00:31:02,609
So his his panel of outside
people is that

517
00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:08,490
John Steen is the libertarian.
How did how does Obama as the

518
00:31:08,490 --> 00:31:13,140
president, how does he How do
you for anybody impose self

519
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:17,100
restraint on somebody on the
basis of someone? Well, madam, I

520
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:21,150
want you to restrain yourself,
I'm going to impose my will on

521
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:24,330
making you have to restrain
yours. It's not possible. This

522
00:31:24,330 --> 00:31:25,170
is bullcrap,

523
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960
the way, the way it's described
in this document is through. And

524
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,760
of course, this is where it gets
interesting through the

525
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,590
executive orders. And executive
orders should be shouldn't make

526
00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:38,820
you should constrain you to do
certain things. But if if you

527
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:42,840
look what's happened, they're
reaching back to 2010 2011

528
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,500
executive orders that just show
the setup to this. If you didn't

529
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,440
know better, and maybe we don't
know better, it feels like the

530
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,910
whole thing is a setup just to
solidify the way that they've

531
00:31:56,910 --> 00:32:02,670
always wanted to start with
which is which is really to have

532
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:06,660
full access. Just the state
have. Yeah, well, yes. And have

533
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:09,840
the distributed database, and
good to go.

534
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:12,900
Yeah, that's makes a lot
cheaper, better things do that

535
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:13,590
money. The

536
00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:17,340
The interesting thing really is,
though, to go back and see the

537
00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:22,110
history now really this started
in in 1928. This is when the

538
00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:26,040
Supreme Court first started
looking at the emerging

539
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,020
technologies of telephony. And
what and this is when

540
00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:33,930
wiretapping was deemed not a
search within the meaning of the

541
00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:38,580
Fourth Amendment, then in
1978 76, I think we had the

542
00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:44,340
Church Committee. And again, is
it went to the Supreme Court,

543
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,570
and it came, it keeps coming
back. We're not We the People

544
00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:52,050
are not going to win this one.
All the all that is really

545
00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:55,830
happening here is the systems
are being set up. So the minute

546
00:32:55,830 --> 00:33:00,240
it involves national security,
imminent death, or something,

547
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,720
that's kind of their their main
things, then all bets are off,

548
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,260
we can go immediately. And there
is there will be a change to

549
00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,410
national security letters, or
that is the proposed

550
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,580
recommendation of which by the
way, 60 are written every single

551
00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:19,590
day. The FBI writes 60 National
Security did in 2012, according

552
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:22,500
this document over 30,000
National Security Letters.

553
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,110
That's a lot of people that need
to shut up.

554
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,440
I think this is terrible, of
course, and something's got to

555
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,150
be done about those national
security. Well,

556
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,630
there is a recommendation in
here that they would have, you

557
00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:37,050
know, yet another secret judge
who would, you know, take a look

558
00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:40,770
at that. And it shouldn't just
be the FBI, which I of course

559
00:33:40,770 --> 00:33:45,270
agree with. But I don't see just
using

560
00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:49,320
it as a, you know, this is when
I was doing diag in the 90s when

561
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,920
I was doing this radio show real
computing. We had an FBI guy on

562
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,430
and this was when they were
trying to push through. It was

563
00:33:56,430 --> 00:33:59,010
the clipper chip. It wasn't a
clip it was some other thing. It

564
00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:02,250
was something that spies on your
TV viewing or something with

565
00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:07,800
some ridiculous technology and
made the assertion and the guy

566
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:12,270
really couldn't disagree with me
but the FBI would love for their

567
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:15,900
job to just be so easy that all
they have to do is just tap

568
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,390
everyone's phone listen and
figure out who the bad guys

569
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,900
aren't go arrest them as opposed
to actually doing police work.

570
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:25,620
Yeah. They because what's if you
have a choice if you if you're

571
00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:28,740
in law enforcement, you have a
choice between just spying on

572
00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:30,960
everybody like the Stasi in East
Germany,

573
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:34,410
just kicking back drink some
coffee and drinks have

574
00:34:34,410 --> 00:34:36,810
doughnuts, wait for the light to
pop on.

575
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,240
And then a light Yeah. And then
you go bust to get thrown in

576
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:41,790
jail, throw the keys away and
then you go to wait for the next

577
00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:44,820
light to come on. You don't have
to do any work. You don't even

578
00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:49,260
have to be trained. And this is
ideally what they want. Yeah.

579
00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:52,350
And because when they have to do
police work, they suck at it

580
00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:54,330
apparently and they don't want
to improve their their

581
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:55,290
capabilities. And

582
00:34:55,290 --> 00:34:59,130
let me remind everybody in the
Time magazine cover interview of

583
00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,880
Mark Zuckerberg ERG, and I think
this is again, the only

584
00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:06,630
programme there's ever really
discussed this. In, in the in

585
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:10,230
this cover article, there's
Robert Muller, then director of

586
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:13,440
the FBI pops his head around the
corner walls, Zuckerberg being

587
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,570
interviewed and says, Hey, I was
in the building, just you know,

588
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:20,190
want to say hi. Because that's
how I like it. And yeah, and

589
00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:23,700
there is language in this
document, specifically saying

590
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:28,080
that if people and it's very key
to what this document think

591
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,050
does, besides the make it easy
for the NSA to tap into

592
00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:34,590
everybody, if this would become
a recommendation or a law or

593
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:37,170
anything, again, this is just a
document. But you know how these

594
00:35:37,170 --> 00:35:40,590
things go, nothing is by chance
with the Obama administration.

595
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,390
So it's setting up the NSA for
much easier work, which they

596
00:35:45,390 --> 00:35:48,900
like, as we've already
identified, it's also setting up

597
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,930
the conversation for well, if if
you're giving all your

598
00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:56,520
information to other third
parties anyway, and you're not

599
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,760
worried about what they're doing
with it necessarily, then why

600
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,150
should it be a problem for that
to be searched? That that will

601
00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:09,270
be the next conversation? And
then ultimately, let me see if I

602
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:10,020
can find

603
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:12,870
Well, you know, they've already
come up with some stories that

604
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,020
have shown up on the media,
where the NSA has turned over

605
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:21,510
data to the IRS to bus people
and it turned over data on

606
00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:28,890
protest groups. Apparently, the
what was the thing in New York

607
00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:33,990
of the protests from Occupy Wall
occupy was busted but so they're

608
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:36,480
already doing this. And I think
they sneak these things out

609
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,970
everyone's we'll see if anybody
squawks about it. But But listen

610
00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:40,380
to media doesn't say crap.

611
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:44,640
This in a series of decisions in
the 1970s, the Supreme Court

612
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,330
held that individuals have,
quote, no reasonable expectation

613
00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:52,170
of privacy, in information they
voluntarily share with third

614
00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:55,230
parties, such as banks and
telephone companies, explain

615
00:36:55,230 --> 00:36:58,470
Facebook explain, explaining
that, quote, what a person

616
00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:02,460
knowingly exposes to third
parties is, quote, not a subject

617
00:37:02,460 --> 00:37:05,790
of Fourth Amendment protection.
And then in Miller versus United

618
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:08,820
States court applied this
reasoning to bank records in

619
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:11,520
Smith versus Maryland. It
extended it to an individual's

620
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,520
telephone calling records. This
is this is history. There's

621
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,290
they're just giving us fact
they're throwing it in your

622
00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:20,070
face, and you have no privacy
slave, shut up. This has been

623
00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:24,870
decided. So we can go back
again. But I don't The only time

624
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:29,640
it changed was recently in 2012.
With the GPS device being

625
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,910
attached to the guy's car. Do
you recall that right that that

626
00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:37,530
was seen as a breach of
someone's privacy under the

627
00:37:37,530 --> 00:37:40,980
Fourth Amendment? That was
actually Sonia Sotomayor,

628
00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:45,720
Justice Sotomayor, as she wrote
that in her opinion, but

629
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,990
otherwise, you have no right to
privacy with any information you

630
00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:53,130
give to a third party. Now the
problem is, of course, that we

631
00:37:53,130 --> 00:37:55,620
can't do without a lot of third
parties.

632
00:37:56,339 --> 00:37:59,549
Like, well, you're making it and
the system is making it worse.

633
00:37:59,549 --> 00:38:00,149
Yes.

634
00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:05,940
Thank you. Ted Kaczynski, rules
once again. It always comes back

635
00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:08,250
to the Unabomber. I can't help
myself and

636
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,820
gentlemen of the jury, you have
to realise that Mr. Curry is a

637
00:38:11,850 --> 00:38:15,030
huge protege of Ted Kaczynski.

638
00:38:15,450 --> 00:38:19,230
Right. Well, I don't know if you
will, you probably did hear.

639
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:25,020
Hear the news that happened? Or
came out this morning. Here we

640
00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:26,640
go talking about centralization.

641
00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:28,800
Well, sure. It's certainly know
what consumers want to hear with

642
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,680
the holiday shopping season. Now
in high gear. As you said the

643
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,710
security breach involves stolen
credit card and debit

644
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:37,410
information. And according to
the Secret Service, it could

645
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:40,950
impact millions of people who
shop at Target at stores all

646
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,920
across the country and tonight
at this Target store at seventh

647
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,980
and fig shoppers we talked to or
thinking twice now about using

648
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:50,220
their credit after hearing what
investigators say appears to

649
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:54,090
have happened here a breach they
say that may go back as far as

650
00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:57,300
Black Friday. Now somehow
investigators believe cyber

651
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,110
criminals hacked into the cyber
criminal systems at targets

652
00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:01,590
retail

653
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:04,950
this by the way is a very
interesting report from KTLA and

654
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:07,440
I want to play the rest of it
because they have two men on the

655
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:13,260
street interviews. And it is it
literally is a no agenda guy and

656
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:19,740
then all the rest. Those two
people this is about supposedly

657
00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:23,910
40 million credit card slash
debit card numbers stolen from

658
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:26,670
point of sale systems at Target
which of course is the problem

659
00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:30,510
with your forced centralization
of money which is not always

660
00:39:30,510 --> 00:39:32,220
necessary. There are ways around
Boris

661
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:35,190
we know that's where you swipe
your card. Give your personal

662
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:38,370
information including your pin
number. Now how they did it

663
00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:41,850
isn't clear yet. The big concern
of course, is that these

664
00:39:41,850 --> 00:39:44,940
criminals may be using the
information to create fake cards

665
00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:48,480
or use a person's pin number to
get into their ATM and take out

666
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,380
money. This has happened in
other retailers in the past and

667
00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:54,900
at least one construction have
cut this down. I apologise and

668
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,140
we're told us that's why he only
shops with cash.

669
00:39:58,740 --> 00:40:02,250
Yay. I just deal with cash now

670
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,570
that's the safest way to go
about shopping for me anyways

671
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,580
okay that's our no agenda guy
are you ready? Are you ready for

672
00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:12,090
the rest

673
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,930
that's kind of like your life
they could like steal your

674
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:18,480
information and take take that's
like they have they're taking

675
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,610
your life they can take your
identity they take your life

676
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:23,490
because out here your identity
is everything your identity was

677
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:24,900
what matters because that's who
you are.

678
00:40:25,529 --> 00:40:29,729
That's right keep your identity
safe. Keep your ID cards don't

679
00:40:29,729 --> 00:40:33,839
become an invalid in society.
Yeah, cash people we got to get

680
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:38,819
back to cash this is crazy. I I
shopped at Target The one time I

681
00:40:38,819 --> 00:40:44,429
go they steal the numbers we
bought the money Yeah, we bought

682
00:40:44,429 --> 00:40:47,609
it we bought a Christmas lights
for the house the decorated for

683
00:40:47,609 --> 00:40:52,259
the kids went to target the one
time I go okay, anyway, the

684
00:40:52,259 --> 00:40:57,599
recommendations are very the
only one that the media is able

685
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:01,079
to pull out that makes any sense
that makes it sound like this

686
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:05,069
panel. This blue ribbon panel
did anything is the one where

687
00:41:05,069 --> 00:41:07,709
they say oh well you know it
should be a third party it

688
00:41:07,709 --> 00:41:13,259
should either be the carriers
themselves or a third party and

689
00:41:13,289 --> 00:41:18,059
I was looking at the the big
circle jerk fast to the Silicon

690
00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:20,219
Valley douchebags at the white
house the other day

691
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:24,900
can you play a clip I have of
that? Is this was dude seemed to

692
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:28,110
me to be it was yeah Jana if you
saw any of the videos no I did I

693
00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:31,260
want to finish the thought and
then okay, there's a bit of okay

694
00:41:31,290 --> 00:41:33,450
go off and don't want to lose my
train of thought on

695
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,250
well then write it down and make
a mark put the tie your shoelace

696
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:44,340
okay the it dawned on me that
looking at the list and of

697
00:41:44,340 --> 00:41:47,040
course I saw the video and
actually have a 35 seconds of

698
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,020
audio that I wanted to play from
it the people missing you know

699
00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:55,230
there was no Cisco wasn't there
you know the people that really

700
00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:58,890
matter who are really part of
the backbone of the internet.

701
00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,920
These guys weren't they it was
Marissa Meyer who was

702
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,890
strategically placed you know,
she looked up pretty. Eric

703
00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:07,740
Schmidt is right across from the
present and then we have the

704
00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:14,850
Netflix guy, and we have the
Salesforce really no no, this

705
00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:18,420
was a pitch this is a pitch as
to who can store all this data

706
00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:22,050
as far as I'm concerned. This
was not anything else other than

707
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:25,560
Hey, let's go hang out at the
White House and these guys are

708
00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:30,300
dicks let me play my little 35
seconds here. And I'll tell you

709
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,370
what's happening so you can
follow along it's kind of hard

710
00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:36,330
to hear this is the pool is
allowed to the pool videos

711
00:42:36,330 --> 00:42:39,300
allowed to be shot and the
President is making some joke

712
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:42,960
about the house of cards and
then the Netflix guy goes my

713
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,010
clip well then I'm setting it up
that we have the same no plant

714
00:42:47,010 --> 00:42:54,480
plant and the Netflix guy goes
to Academy and then Eric Schmidt

715
00:42:54,690 --> 00:43:00,510
is laughing like a moron it's
true like he's about to jump

716
00:43:00,510 --> 00:43:03,480
over and suck the president off
It's so scary.

717
00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:07,590
But the advanced copies of House
of Cards

718
00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:23,340
are willing to do a little cameo
cameo Well, I wish things were

719
00:43:23,370 --> 00:43:24,870
that ruthlessly efficient

720
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:33,150
just guys getting a lot of stuff
done

721
00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:44,880
Eric Schmidt is a is a weenie
boy. He's a little suck up

722
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,490
little weenie pussy boy. Did you

723
00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:50,190
see him? It was pathetic. Oh,

724
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:53,790
and these are the people you
trust anything with immediately.

725
00:43:53,970 --> 00:43:58,410
Sean Google opt out of I'm
cancelling my Netflix for this

726
00:43:58,410 --> 00:43:59,730
just for that one guy.

727
00:44:00,510 --> 00:44:03,870
So they had it set up. So Biden
was sitting next to Marissa

728
00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:08,940
Meyer. Yeah. Just a horn dog
sitting next to the only blonde

729
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:12,420
kind of cute blonde. Yeah. And
then on the other side, by the

730
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:15,030
way, by the way, by the way.
Sheryl Sandberg,

731
00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:20,760
Paula. Marissa looked hot. She
looks but she needs

732
00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:23,100
she's photogenic. That's all.
That's it.

733
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:26,250
But she needs little posture
training because now it looks

734
00:44:26,250 --> 00:44:29,460
like they looked like she was
put there. Like, oh, here's a

735
00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:32,550
chick that was she needs to
figure out how to sit. You know,

736
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:34,890
but she looks hot. She's
photogenic. Alright.

737
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:39,360
photogenic. very photogenic. She
wants to realise that. You know,

738
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,080
she's ahead of me. Yeah. Did
this Sheryl Sandberg who's

739
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,530
anything but photogenic? Yeah.
Was over on the other side of

740
00:44:46,530 --> 00:44:50,610
the other girl of Obama and
there was somebody between Obama

741
00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:52,680
and her I can't remember who
some other guy

742
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,930
that Jarrett's in there and all
the dicks.

743
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:57,690
It was just they were just
yucking it up. They didn't have

744
00:44:57,690 --> 00:45:00,060
any buddies. They were supposed
to go there to tell us you You

745
00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:02,310
know, just stopped the NSA from
doing this. No, they weren't,

746
00:45:02,310 --> 00:45:05,670
there was just, they would just
go have it's a drinking club

747
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:07,770
and they were there to pitch.
And I'm telling you, they were

748
00:45:07,770 --> 00:45:11,610
there. So maybe Salesforce or
someone wanted to pitch to store

749
00:45:11,610 --> 00:45:15,600
all the data, because it can't
the recommendations specifically

750
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,670
is a third party. But let me
tell you, when these people they

751
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:25,080
have, they just want to suck up
to the power. That's all that

752
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,810
they're doing there. Every
single one of them. It was so

753
00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:31,080
pathetic, please the video is
linked in the show notes 575

754
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,500
that any shownotes.com Look at
that video. It is so you can

755
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,070
tell you can see by the body and
particularly Eric Schmidt was

756
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,270
mind boggling. This is one of
the richest most powerful

757
00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:48,780
technology people in the world.
And he's completely molten goo.

758
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,950
But the fact that he's sitting
across from the President, and

759
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:53,760
you know these people.

760
00:45:55,770 --> 00:45:59,760
Oh, Dick, just think stuff.

761
00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:03,720
Disgusting. It was pretty
disgusting. I have to say,

762
00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:08,370
here's to kind of move into the
next phase here. Jake Tapper

763
00:46:08,370 --> 00:46:12,510
just give you an idea of the
conversation that will be the

764
00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:14,550
this is the only thing that
we'll keep talking about, even

765
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:17,730
on this document itself says,
you really can't look at this

766
00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:21,090
being a balance between security
and privacy. Because it's the

767
00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:25,170
same thing as you know, the word
secure, is what it's all about.

768
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:29,880
But this is pretty much what,
what what the media is going to

769
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,270
tell you.

770
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:32,940
You're talking about security
versus liberty. Ultimately, you

771
00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:35,790
don't hear John Boehner, your
former boss complaining about

772
00:46:35,790 --> 00:46:38,370
these NSA programmes. He's
actually a very strong supporter

773
00:46:38,370 --> 00:46:42,060
of them. Right and the same with
a lot of Republicans. Yep, the

774
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:44,940
Rand Paul's of the world. And
yes, you have commentators

775
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:47,880
talking about it. You have, you
know, jerks like me covering it,

776
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,470
but the bottom line is, I think
the American people honestly

777
00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:56,670
want security over freedom. I
really do when it comes to these

778
00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:57,240
little thing.

779
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:59,850
Yeah. Oh, Jake Tapper. Nene. He
knows slip

780
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:00,510
of the day.

781
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,140
Really? You sure know? Because I
may have more.

782
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,820
No, no, you can't beat that one.
Day that the following week.

783
00:47:15,330 --> 00:47:16,410
I wanted to run

784
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,030
believable that anybody in that
sort of situation would say

785
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:24,240
something like that, for one
thing is presumptuous. I mean,

786
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:28,350
it's condescending. It's beneath
contempt. The guy's a creep for

787
00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:29,130
saying that.

788
00:47:30,210 --> 00:47:32,850
That's what he does. All right,
I

789
00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:35,520
didn't know it was that bad.
Now,

790
00:47:35,550 --> 00:47:38,460
I've discovered something in
looking lovely.

791
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:44,130
They'd rather be slaves under a
strong government that protects

792
00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:46,890
them because they're scared
little bunnies can't use that

793
00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:50,970
freedom. They want to be safe in
little cages. You can't use that

794
00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:51,480
word.

795
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,360
You can't use the S word. Do you
know what slave means? The

796
00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:00,120
people in America. Alright, now,
here's what's interesting. This

797
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,570
is all about the NSA, one of our
main thesis, DC, SCI, forums,

798
00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:11,580
theory theoretical games, is
that there is an ongoing battle

799
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:16,950
between agencies in particular
the CIA and the NSA, the church

800
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:25,110
committee that was predominantly
against the CIA. Now, this is

801
00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:28,440
interesting, because this
couldn't be a tit for tat,

802
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:34,650
ongoing battle that spans
decades. In fact, Frank Church,

803
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,960
who, who led the Church
Committee, and he was a senator

804
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,150
from Idaho, I believe. on Meet
the Press said had the following

805
00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:48,750
quote, and of course, there's no
audio in the need to develop a

806
00:48:48,750 --> 00:48:51,660
capacity to know what potential
enemies are doing, the United

807
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:55,290
States government has perfected
a technological capability that

808
00:48:55,290 --> 00:48:57,900
enables us to monitor the
messages that go through the

809
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,530
air. Now that is necessary and
important to the United States

810
00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:04,320
as we look abroad at enemies or
potential and or potential

811
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,440
enemies. We must know at the
same time, that capability at

812
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,860
any time could be turned around
on the American people. And no

813
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:14,460
American would have any privacy
left, such as the capability to

814
00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:17,640
monitor everything, telephone
conversations, telegrams, it

815
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,760
doesn't matter, there would be
no place to hide if this

816
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,510
government ever became a tyrant.
If a dictator ever took charge

817
00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:27,540
in this country, the
technological capacity the

818
00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:30,510
intelligence community has given
the government could enable it

819
00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:34,020
to impose total tyranny, and
there would be no way to fight

820
00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:37,200
back because the most careful
effort to combine together in

821
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,830
resistance to the government, no
matter how privately was done is

822
00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:43,560
within the reach of the
government to know such as the

823
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,710
capability of this technology. I
don't want to see this country

824
00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:51,180
ever go across that bridge. I
know the capacity that is there

825
00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:55,200
to make tyrannical tyranny total
in America, and we must see to

826
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,860
it that this agency and that's
the key and all agencies that

827
00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:01,800
possess this technology operate
within the law and under proper

828
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,850
supervision so that we never
cross over that abyss. This is

829
00:50:05,850 --> 00:50:08,490
the Abyss from which there is no
return he was talking about

830
00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:12,990
without mentioning it, the NSA
after he fought the CIA in the

831
00:50:12,990 --> 00:50:19,560
Church Committee. My feeling,
John, is that this is just the

832
00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:24,990
pendulum coming back at the NSA.
Because the CIA CIA got such a

833
00:50:24,990 --> 00:50:28,230
beating. This was about of
course, the Pentagon Papers

834
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:31,800
ultimately came from from this
church committee period. This is

835
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,530
about Watergate. It but it was
all CIA and the NSA was quietly

836
00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:40,950
building up and Here's Frank
Church warning for exactly what

837
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:44,610
we're seeing now. Exactly what
we're seeing. And then the

838
00:50:44,610 --> 00:50:48,000
media, this is the thing that no
one really, they knew it, but

839
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,610
they didn't really see it like
that. Jake. Jake Tapper,

840
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:57,180
asshole. The media is so in. And
I pulled a number of clips, I

841
00:50:57,180 --> 00:51:02,970
felt it might my duty to pull
clips from the CBS 60 minutes.

842
00:51:03,630 --> 00:51:09,870
NSA piece, which started with
the most hilarious thing I've

843
00:51:09,870 --> 00:51:14,640
ever I've ever heard. This, by
the way, is it something that in

844
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,050
general, we need to watch out
for in journalism, and we'll

845
00:51:19,050 --> 00:51:21,300
discuss after we hear it
unprecedented

846
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:24,570
access to NSA headquarters,
where we were able to speak to

847
00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:27,840
employees who have never spoken
publicly before. Full

848
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,840
disclosure, I once worked in the
Office of the Director of

849
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,950
National Intelligence, where I
saw firsthand how secretly the

850
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:38,310
NSA operates. It's often said,
and all right,

851
00:51:38,850 --> 00:51:43,170
this full disclosure thing, I
see this a lot in reporting. And

852
00:51:43,170 --> 00:51:47,040
it's like Kara Swisher would
say, oh, full disclosure. I'm

853
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,340
married to a woman who's an
executive at Google. Therefore,

854
00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:53,040
now that I fully disclosed this,
you can believe everything I

855
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,730
say. Have you noticed this
trend? Just as funny

856
00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:59,130
you say this because there's a
clip I didn't pull, but I'll,

857
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,990
I'll reprise it. They run this
and they ran this on democracy.

858
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:06,780
Now. I do have two clips from
from this interview that was

859
00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:09,390
done about the Washington Post
Jeff Bezos in the connection to

860
00:52:09,390 --> 00:52:11,100
the CIA where they're choosing.

861
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:13,530
That's the next piece. Yeah,
well, I can't wait for that when

862
00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:13,620
you

863
00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:17,010
go to that. And they and they
were talking to a professor of

864
00:52:17,010 --> 00:52:19,920
journalism up in Ithaca. And I
do have a clip from him. But I

865
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,640
don't have this part where he
says, he says exactly that. He

866
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,150
says, but he doesn't say it in a
sceptical way. You're saying it,

867
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:29,670
he says, Well, you know, a lot
of this wouldn't be a problem if

868
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:32,670
they would just fully disclose
every time you do an article on

869
00:52:32,670 --> 00:52:36,780
the CIA that Jeff Bezos is
associated with the CIA because

870
00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:40,080
of their $600 million contract
to do with the server farm for

871
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,310
the CIA. Well, and that was so
out of the blue, I'm thinking

872
00:52:44,310 --> 00:52:48,060
and I was thinking to myself,
you know, exactly what you're

873
00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:51,180
thinking, What good does it do?
I mean, it's not I think it's a,

874
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:54,840
you have to mention it
occasionally. But I think for

875
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,570
the most part in today's world,
people can kind of know it's

876
00:52:57,570 --> 00:52:59,970
becoming two together, or maybe
you shouldn't be doing a story.

877
00:52:59,970 --> 00:53:00,420
I know.

878
00:53:00,450 --> 00:53:04,950
Thank you. It's becoming a meme.
That if you as long as you say

879
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:08,100
full disclosure, people like oh,
he disclosed it. That doesn't

880
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,020
mean that all of a sudden the
reporting is going to be non

881
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:14,100
biassed, I got a great email
from one of our producers. I had

882
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:15,930
already clipped this. And he
said, Oh, Adam, just so you

883
00:53:15,930 --> 00:53:21,000
know, this, John Miller, who was
chosen to do the 60 minute piece

884
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,230
on the NSA. And by

885
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:25,590
the way, John Miller has, as far
as I can tell, has never done

886
00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:29,640
anything for 60 minutes except
this Oh, why didn't they send in

887
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,960
one of their regular guys?

888
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,430
The answer, as part of the deal
for CBS to get the exclusive the

889
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:38,520
NSA demanded the reporter be
someone who had previously held

890
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,360
a security clearance. Because a
security clearance means you

891
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,890
sign a lifetime non disclosure
agreement that covers not just

892
00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:49,680
classified information you may
be privy to in your work, but

893
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:53,880
all classified information, even
leaked classified information

894
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,350
that you've seen in your entire
life. So him doing this with

895
00:53:58,350 --> 00:54:02,220
this legally binding
nondisclosure agreement, is the

896
00:54:02,220 --> 00:54:06,300
reason why they let him in at
all, so nothing that they could

897
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:09,690
classify whatever get out by
through this reporter.

898
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,780
It's worse than that, because
what it also indicates, which is

899
00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:16,950
the crazy part of it, is that
anything that Snowden revealed,

900
00:54:17,250 --> 00:54:18,900
could not be used as a question.

901
00:54:18,930 --> 00:54:23,220
Exactly. That's exactly correct.
And so he could

902
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:26,100
not counter anything that
whatever was said if he had

903
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:30,120
evidence to the contrary, based
on these leaks, he couldn't

904
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,960
bring it up. Question Exactly.
Is he'd be thrown in the slammer

905
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:38,850
and people and CBS put up with
this bullshit. What is wrong

906
00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:41,850
with these guys? It is just they
have this Laurel Logan, who's an

907
00:54:41,850 --> 00:54:45,180
obviously a corrupt reporter.
And now we have this and these

908
00:54:45,180 --> 00:54:47,520
guys expect people to take them
seriously. Yes,

909
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,300
because we have become
anaesthetised to the whole full

910
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:54,570
disclosure. You can't this is
that you can't the full

911
00:54:54,570 --> 00:54:57,810
disclosure would have been. I
have a lifetime non disclosure

912
00:54:57,810 --> 00:55:01,950
agreement I can't even ask about
in information that has been

913
00:55:01,950 --> 00:55:05,250
leaked because I can't even talk
about it if it's classified,

914
00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:08,310
and four, I am really in the
nondisclosure. You can't say

915
00:55:08,310 --> 00:55:10,230
that either. Exactly.

916
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:14,700
Exactly. So this is the Tiffany
network. Well, oh wait, Walter

917
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:18,990
Cronkite just puked in his
mouth. Or is it Edward R.

918
00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:22,350
Murrow? I can't remember.
Someone puked. It is

919
00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:26,490
unconscionable that 22nd 15
seconds of Oh, full disclosure,

920
00:55:26,490 --> 00:55:31,650
I used to work in the DNI
office. Wow. Wow. Okay. So while

921
00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:35,250
we're at it, he might as well
just sell the lie. And when you

922
00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:37,260
listen to and this is what's so
beautiful, when you don't see

923
00:55:37,260 --> 00:55:40,890
that guy's big head that John
Miller's Big Head, filling up my

924
00:55:40,890 --> 00:55:47,070
screen, my 4k screen. When you
don't see his head, and you

925
00:55:47,070 --> 00:55:50,400
listen, you can hear how he is.
It's almost like it's scripted.

926
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,270
If a terrorist is suspected of
having contacts inside the

927
00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:58,350
United States, the NSA can query
a database that contains the

928
00:55:58,350 --> 00:56:03,150
metadata of every phone call
made in the US going back five

929
00:56:03,150 --> 00:56:07,080
years. So you understand then
there might be a little

930
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,100
confusion among Americans who
read in the newspaper, that the

931
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:15,180
NSA has vacuumed up the records
of the telephone calls of every

932
00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:17,970
man, woman and child in the
United States for a period of

933
00:56:17,970 --> 00:56:22,560
years. That sounds like spying
on Americans.

934
00:56:22,830 --> 00:56:26,220
Right? And that's wrong. That's
absolutely wrong.

935
00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:28,860
There's no you don't hear the
call. You don't hear the call?

936
00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:29,910
You don't see the name.

937
00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:32,670
He's telling. He's giving him
the answers. He's not asking

938
00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:34,200
questions. You don't see

939
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,200
the names, you just see this
number called that number.

940
00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:41,160
This is not an interview. He
isn't he's answering questions

941
00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:45,540
that this number, the two from
number, the duration of the call

942
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:48,660
and the date time group, that's
all you get it all we can do is

943
00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:52,590
tell the FBI, that number is
talking to somebody who is very

944
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:54,030
bad, you have to go look at,

945
00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:56,640
by the way, one of the
recommendations in the report I

946
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,320
just remembered is that the and
this is an extension of powers.

947
00:57:02,010 --> 00:57:05,520
The recommendation is if the FBI
if someone travels to the United

948
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,860
States, the NSA will be given 72
hours to continue to follow him,

949
00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:13,980
instead of currently where they
are supposedly supposed to stop

950
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:19,050
and then handed over to the FBI.
So it's an extension of power 72

951
00:57:19,050 --> 00:57:21,150
hours extra. All right.

952
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:25,020
I gotta interrupt you, for sure.
Sure. As you're gone into the

953
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,830
Alexandria and is bullcrap, I
think we can make a segment out

954
00:57:28,830 --> 00:57:32,130
of this because during a
hearing, Alexandria came up with

955
00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:38,310
another analogy. Another bad
analogy is kind of like the

956
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:41,310
excuse for using this metadata.
Because I think that you

957
00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:43,860
shouldn't use the analogy. And
you didn't do any of these joke

958
00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:47,310
analogies on 60 minutes. But
this one here is just a much as

959
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,610
an eye roller as the submarine
one billions

960
00:57:50,610 --> 00:57:53,730
and billions of books of
information that are out there.

961
00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:57,360
There is no viable way to go
through that information if you

962
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,470
don't use metadata. In this
case, metadata is a way of

963
00:58:01,470 --> 00:58:05,070
knowing where those books are in
the library, and a way of

964
00:58:05,070 --> 00:58:09,330
focusing our collection, the
same that our allies do to look

965
00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:12,930
at where are the bad books. From
our perspective, from the

966
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,080
National Security Agency's
perspective, what we do is get

967
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,140
great insights into the bad
actors overseas.

968
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,980
I think we need to start burning
books again. Bad books bad Well,

969
00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:26,250
you know what we will turn into
a segment here is something

970
00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:27,810
about a bad book that New York

971
00:58:27,810 --> 00:58:31,650
Daily News says the author of
The Anarchist Cookbook wants his

972
00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:35,760
work pulled from shelves, linked
to last week's Colorado high

973
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,430
school shooting burn Areum
Pauwels guide includes

974
00:58:38,430 --> 00:58:41,940
instructions on making
explosives burn it, I say

975
00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:45,930
burn it. That's where we're
that's where we're headed people

976
00:58:45,930 --> 00:58:47,190
don't worry, don't worry.

977
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,520
Okay. Now, of course, you can't
do anything in any kind of fear

978
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,810
based programme, unless you link
it to 911. This is this is this

979
00:58:57,810 --> 00:59:01,620
is our standard. This is how we
do it. Here's how we roll. We

980
00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:04,620
know it's a part of the talking
points. Let's roll back to 911.

981
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,350
And these phone calls may go
between different phone

982
00:59:07,350 --> 00:59:10,410
companies. If you only go to one
company, you'll see what that

983
00:59:10,410 --> 00:59:13,290
phone company has, but you may
not see what the other phone

984
00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:16,980
company has or the other. So by
putting those together, we can

985
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:19,440
see all of that, essentially at
one time.

986
00:59:20,610 --> 00:59:24,450
Before 911 Did we have this
capability? We did not? Is it a

987
00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:25,950
factor? Was it a factor?

988
00:59:25,980 --> 00:59:27,660
I believe it was what

989
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:28,560
General Alexander

990
00:59:28,590 --> 00:59:31,890
no wait now listen to this. Now
this is interesting. So this is

991
00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:35,250
this is typical. Don't play with
that thing. Jon's annoying when

992
00:59:35,250 --> 00:59:35,880
I'm trying to think

993
00:59:37,290 --> 00:59:39,060
I was just dropping a coin in a
jar.

994
00:59:40,590 --> 00:59:46,140
This is very annoying when you
have a interviewer ask a

995
00:59:46,140 --> 00:59:50,970
question. And then the subject
answers the question, but then

996
00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:56,700
they turn down the his volume
and then over his answer. Say

997
00:59:56,730 --> 01:00:02,100
what the answer is, this is this
is the Worst, lowest form of

998
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,170
journalism. There is.

999
01:00:04,590 --> 01:00:05,700
I believe it was.

1000
01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:08,970
What General Alexander is
talking about is that two of the

1001
01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:13,500
911 hijackers Khalid al midbar,
and the wife alHazmi. Were in

1002
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:17,700
touch with an al Qaeda safehouse
in Yemen. The NSA did not know

1003
01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:21,360
their calls were coming from
California as they would today.

1004
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,650
I think this was the factor that
allowed mudhar.

1005
01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:27,420
So did you hear what they just
did there?

1006
01:00:28,410 --> 01:00:30,930
Yeah, yeah, they took there. He
was saying something. But it

1007
01:00:30,930 --> 01:00:34,800
wasn't even it was. Yeah, they
were they were amplifying a

1008
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,480
point. Yes, using a trick. But
we're using a TV trick without

1009
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,140
even voicing over the guy's
actual comments. And you see,

1010
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,360
and you see, explain it to the
idiots watching the

1011
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:50,100
show. And we don't even know
what he said. All right, if

1012
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:53,880
you're a sysadmin, the war is on
you got all kinds

1013
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,840
of figures out there about how
much he took how many documents?

1014
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,840
We've been told 1.7

1015
01:01:00,930 --> 01:01:05,340
million. And by the way, this
number is it was it's the CBS

1016
01:01:05,340 --> 01:01:09,090
number. We have no idea where
this comes from. There's even

1017
01:01:09,090 --> 01:01:12,810
Glenn Greenwald on rough has not
given us this number. This is an

1018
01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:15,630
interesting number. We have no
idea about this, but okay.

1019
01:01:15,930 --> 01:01:16,830
I wouldn't dispute that.

1020
01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:19,680
How is that possible?

1021
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:24,900
So the people who control that
the access to those machines are

1022
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:29,640
called system administrators, ah
sis admins may have passwords

1023
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,800
that give them the the ability
to go around those security

1024
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,990
measures. And, and that's what
Snowden did.

1025
01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:39,780
I think, you know, how, here's,

1026
01:01:39,810 --> 01:01:41,130
here's my prediction, okay,

1027
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,050
I have a prediction about this
to go ahead.

1028
01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:48,930
Sis admins are going to be
required to get licenced. And

1029
01:01:48,930 --> 01:01:52,380
they will all receive what a
variation of a national security

1030
01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:56,730
letter that will require them
to, to not do certain things,

1031
01:01:56,730 --> 01:02:00,000
report certain things and
actually be a partner with the

1032
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,200
government. You know,

1033
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,630
how in in a nunnery in a convent
all that they only have Unix

1034
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:09,240
around. I think that's where
we're headed.

1035
01:02:09,810 --> 01:02:11,280
To get a cut the nuts off,

1036
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,090
just add milk your eyes out,
yeah, you'll have one

1037
01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:18,630
capability. So maybe you can use
your hands. And but you'll have

1038
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:21,000
to have the guy with the eyes to
sit next to you, they're going

1039
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,870
to disable you one way or the
other. If that didn't work,

1040
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,690
that's one. That's the extent to
which these people are crazy,

1041
01:02:27,690 --> 01:02:33,570
John. And, of course, we know
sis admins and I know a

1042
01:02:33,570 --> 01:02:37,710
sysadmin, who worked on the
drone programme. When this

1043
01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:42,030
sysadmin left. They said hey,
would you please change the root

1044
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:45,690
password and give it to you to
the next guy? Are you kidding

1045
01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:49,560
me? This is how dumb it is that
just dumb. These people that are

1046
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,380
fiefdoms. They don't give a crap
about security. Really, they

1047
01:02:52,380 --> 01:02:57,720
just one. It's disgusting. And
of course, it's the Chinese

1048
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:58,620
provided as part of that.

1049
01:02:58,710 --> 01:03:01,950
So I'm going to assume that
there's one in there about

1050
01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:04,440
China. And there's one in there
about Iran. And there's another

1051
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,370
in there about Russia,

1052
01:03:05,790 --> 01:03:08,100
many more than let me just get
this straight. We're about to

1053
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:12,120
accuse China and Russia and Iran
of hacking and spying and being

1054
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:12,780
horrible one,

1055
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,920
if it's many more than one. Yes.
How many of those are there?

1056
01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:18,240
31,000?

1057
01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:22,110
If those documents fell into
their hands, what good would it

1058
01:03:22,110 --> 01:03:22,530
do them?

1059
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,490
It would give them a roadmap of
what we know what we don't know.

1060
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:31,950
And give them implicitly way to
protect

1061
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:37,140
the exactly so we then now we go
into the dashboard. This is so

1062
01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:40,290
funny, because this is this is
the proof that these are

1063
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,810
basically Silicon Valley Yahoo's

1064
01:03:43,170 --> 01:03:46,740
twice a week under the dim blue
lights of the NSA Operation

1065
01:03:46,740 --> 01:03:50,460
Centre. The director is given a
briefing. Sure we added three

1066
01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:54,450
new hostage cases this week with
his deputy Chris English General

1067
01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:57,900
Alexander listens to a rundown
of global issues and

1068
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,920
international crises the NSA may
be asked to collect intelligence

1069
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,420
on Sir moving to Afghanistan the
meeting is called the stand up

1070
01:04:06,450 --> 01:04:07,920
because no one sits down

1071
01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:12,600
this is when they're wearing
camo this is this well I got an

1072
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,900
answer about that. I got the
answer to the same letter from

1073
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:17,190
the guy that talked about the
camo

1074
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:20,790
Yeah, we got it we got a camo
letter. Okay, but the standup is

1075
01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:25,050
a Silicon Valley thing. Oh, I
remember this Emilio that we had

1076
01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:29,580
a new Dez C CTO came in and he
decided we should do a stand up

1077
01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:31,770
meeting all the engineers change
the

1078
01:04:31,770 --> 01:04:35,430
name of the meeting to stand up
the daily stand up No, but there

1079
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:39,570
was a other thing that was
changed and we go on who cares?

1080
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,530
It's just this the whole culture
of this thing is just creepy.

1081
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,460
This especially

1082
01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:47,580
in the camp with a camo on which
is

1083
01:04:47,610 --> 01:04:52,770
okay, well the camo is standard
apparently. We got so many

1084
01:04:52,770 --> 01:04:56,910
people yelling at us. Snipers.
The camo

1085
01:04:56,910 --> 01:05:00,690
is standard. That just we were
wrong about the camo But the

1086
01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:05,430
three words that yeah we were
the perception from yes we were

1087
01:05:05,730 --> 01:05:09,600
our assumption is as stupid I
was that wrong.

1088
01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:12,030
That's not your right. I'm sorry
I forgot that was our

1089
01:05:12,030 --> 01:05:16,740
assumption. It's they're
comfortable apparently. All

1090
01:05:16,740 --> 01:05:19,200
right, here's the Alexandre
setting up the pitch could take

1091
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,830
down anything from the power
grid to Wall Street. Could a

1092
01:05:22,830 --> 01:05:25,500
foreign country tomorrow topple
our financial system?

1093
01:05:26,970 --> 01:05:32,940
I believe that a foreign nation
could impact and destroy major

1094
01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:34,110
portions of our finances. The

1095
01:05:34,110 --> 01:05:38,850
question is, how much of it
could we stop? Well, right now

1096
01:05:38,850 --> 01:05:38,940
it

1097
01:05:38,940 --> 01:05:42,090
would be difficult to stop it
because our ability to see it is

1098
01:05:42,090 --> 01:05:42,570
limited.

1099
01:05:43,259 --> 01:05:46,079
One thing I didn't see coming
was called the BIOS plot.

1100
01:05:46,709 --> 01:05:50,759
This is my favourite. This is
the one that anyone who has any

1101
01:05:50,759 --> 01:05:54,869
knowledge of how things work saw
right through now Kaiser

1102
01:05:54,869 --> 01:05:58,349
Alexander is smart. He's not
going to roll this bull crap out

1103
01:05:58,349 --> 01:06:01,799
himself. So here let's push a
woman out there. Oh, wait, let's

1104
01:06:01,799 --> 01:06:06,329
push a black woman out that's
even funnier. This I'm telling

1105
01:06:06,329 --> 01:06:10,799
you, John, this is how these
people think. And did you see

1106
01:06:11,099 --> 01:06:13,409
you saw this You saw what
happened this is this is

1107
01:06:13,409 --> 01:06:18,659
disgusting. Make her tell the
big lie about the bios that

1108
01:06:18,659 --> 01:06:20,009
brick the economy

1109
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,070
Plunkett direct saw Yeah, this
was horrible. This is

1110
01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:26,010
really, really bad. And they
made her tell it which was just

1111
01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:27,030
disgusting.

1112
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:31,440
The NSA. And for the first time
discusses the agency's role in

1113
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,210
discovering the plot. One of

1114
01:06:33,210 --> 01:06:36,780
our analysts actually saw that
the nation state had the

1115
01:06:36,780 --> 01:06:39,900
intention to develop and to
deliver to actually use this

1116
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:44,760
capability to destroy computers.
Destroy computer to destroy

1117
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,100
computers. So the BIOS is a
basic

1118
01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:48,900
three times in a row. Did you
hear that? Yeah,

1119
01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:51,180
destroy computers, destroy
computers, destroy computers.

1120
01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:55,740
That's how you remember things.
This is Mind control people's 60

1121
01:06:55,740 --> 01:06:56,310
minutes says

1122
01:06:56,310 --> 01:06:59,550
destroy computers. He says
destroy computers. She says,

1123
01:06:59,550 --> 01:07:03,240
Because destroy computers, you
were 123 punch, you remember?

1124
01:07:04,260 --> 01:07:09,060
And 60 minutes is what? The
intelligencia with the elites.

1125
01:07:09,210 --> 01:07:13,170
What is school people, my
friends in Austin, Texas, watch

1126
01:07:13,170 --> 01:07:17,340
60 minutes and take it as truth.
Yes, they take this like it's 60

1127
01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:20,220
minutes, man, they take it as
truth. They take it as truth,

1128
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:21,870
they take it as true take it as
truth.

1129
01:07:22,530 --> 01:07:25,680
Truth destroyed, destroyed
computers, destroy computers

1130
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,490
destroyed computer

1131
01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:30,930
is a basic input output system.
It's like the foundational

1132
01:07:31,170 --> 01:07:33,480
component firmware of a
computer, you start your

1133
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,890
computer up, the BIOS kicks in,
it activates hardware, it

1134
01:07:37,890 --> 01:07:40,680
activates the operating system,
it turns on the computer.

1135
01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:44,100
This is the bio system which
starts most computers, the

1136
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:46,980
attack would have been disguised
as a request for a software

1137
01:07:46,980 --> 01:07:50,940
update. If the user agreed, the
virus would have infected the

1138
01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:55,470
computer. So this basically
would have gone into the system

1139
01:07:55,470 --> 01:07:58,830
that starts up the computer runs
the systems tells it what to do

1140
01:07:58,860 --> 01:08:02,640
that's right. And basically
turned it into a cinderblock a

1141
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,060
brick. And after that, there
wouldn't be much you could do

1142
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:06,930
with that computer.

1143
01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:09,900
That's all on a second hold on
Stop, Stop the presses stop, the

1144
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,080
presses are stopped. So you're
telling me the government is

1145
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,770
buying computers that don't have
a factory reset hard reset that

1146
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,890
on the motherboard, which all of
them do that I got machines all

1147
01:08:19,890 --> 01:08:22,710
over the place. And there's a
little clip you put on and it

1148
01:08:22,710 --> 01:08:26,520
resets the BIOS to factory reset
in case something like this

1149
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,030
happens. So how was this a
cinderblock? Or a brick? Does it

1150
01:08:30,150 --> 01:08:33,480
make the thing catch on fire? I
mean, what am I missing here?

1151
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:36,780
Are they just full of crap? Ah,
that would

1152
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:43,410
be it. I will point out that
this of course, this is a major

1153
01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:47,550
security issue. It's an issue
with the Microsoft Update

1154
01:08:47,550 --> 01:08:51,150
Tuesday it's an issue with any
any centralised updating system,

1155
01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:56,820
it is probably the most looked
after system in any computer or

1156
01:08:57,690 --> 01:09:02,610
peripheral company. Interesting
that one of the recommendations

1157
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:10,410
of the of this document, the 300
page document is specifically

1158
01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:15,270
specifically to allow the NSA
under certain such circumstances

1159
01:09:15,270 --> 01:09:18,930
to launch zero day attacks. It
says it's specifically in the

1160
01:09:18,930 --> 01:09:24,210
document that under certain
circumstances, the NSA should be

1161
01:09:24,210 --> 01:09:27,870
allowed to launch zero day
exploits and attacks to protect

1162
01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:31,080
our national security. And this
is a good way to do that.

1163
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:34,410
Think about the impact of that
across the entire globe. It

1164
01:09:34,410 --> 01:09:37,050
could literally take down the US
economy.

1165
01:09:37,559 --> 01:09:41,129
I don't think so. What is she
saying? She's

1166
01:09:41,130 --> 01:09:45,270
insane. This woman should be
ashamed of herself. Oh,

1167
01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:48,300
she shouldn't she's just she's
being pushed to do this. It's

1168
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:50,280
shameful they made her do this.

1169
01:09:51,089 --> 01:09:52,169
I don't mean to be flip

1170
01:09:52,170 --> 01:09:56,790
about this, but But okay,
standby. Standby. Here it comes.

1171
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:57,240
It has

1172
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:02,400
a kind of a little Dr. Evil
quality I'm going to develop a

1173
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,570
programme that can destroy every
computer in the world. It sounds

1174
01:10:06,570 --> 01:10:08,910
almost unbelievable. Don't be
fooled.

1175
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:16,170
Don't be, don't be absolutely
destroying every. Second, you

1176
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:17,070
got to hear that last bit.

1177
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,290
programme that can destroy every
computer in the world. It sounds

1178
01:10:22,290 --> 01:10:23,370
almost unbelievable.

1179
01:10:23,820 --> 01:10:28,140
Don't be fooled. There are
absolutely nation states who

1180
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:31,320
have the capability and the
intentions to do just that.

1181
01:10:31,349 --> 01:10:34,469
Based on what you learned here
at NSA, would it have worked?

1182
01:10:35,460 --> 01:10:36,300
We believe it would have

1183
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,380
Yes, it would have worked and
they stopped it, John. They they

1184
01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:43,350
stop it the BIOS bricking, I
don't know, they killed they

1185
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:44,700
stick they saw the guy who was

1186
01:10:44,969 --> 01:10:47,309
evidence or they have this shot.
And if somebody wants to do

1187
01:10:47,309 --> 01:10:49,019
this, because they are out to
get us why don't they do it?

1188
01:10:49,019 --> 01:10:50,819
Now? What's the point? Why wait?

1189
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,070
A couple more quick, really
quick hits here. I had a

1190
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:56,820
question about this.

1191
01:10:56,820 --> 01:11:00,090
This week, the CEOs of eight
major internet providers,

1192
01:11:00,090 --> 01:11:03,690
including Google, Apple and
Yahoo. asked the president for

1193
01:11:03,690 --> 01:11:06,810
new limits to be placed on the
NSA his ability to collect

1194
01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:08,820
personal information from their
users.

1195
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,860
What exactly I don't like this
internet provider meme anymore.

1196
01:11:13,890 --> 01:11:17,310
He's not they're not internet
providers. Exactly. And they're

1197
01:11:17,310 --> 01:11:20,490
providers of service. Zhan the
internet. Yes. This is what an

1198
01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:22,980
internet providers essentially
an ISP is

1199
01:11:22,980 --> 01:11:25,140
more interesting, the actual
internet providers weren't

1200
01:11:25,140 --> 01:11:28,830
there. This is this is the whole
joke. The internet providers

1201
01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:33,210
were not at the meeting. The
guys who actually open up the

1202
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,810
light port so that the NSA can
tap in they're not there. They

1203
01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:40,140
got nothing to say like, oh,
yeah, urine. And here's, here's

1204
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:43,830
proof in Kaiser, Alexander's
words, that they are sucking it

1205
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:45,330
up from the network. So our

1206
01:11:45,330 --> 01:11:48,000
objective is to collect those
communications no matter where

1207
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,390
they are. But we're not going
into a facility are targeting

1208
01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:55,380
Google as an entity or Yahoo is
an entity, but we will collect

1209
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:59,730
those communications of
terrorists that flow on that

1210
01:11:59,730 --> 01:12:01,080
network sources

1211
01:12:01,170 --> 01:12:05,550
as long as it flows on the
network. You see, it flows on

1212
01:12:05,550 --> 01:12:11,760
the network John, that's what
it's about. There is here's

1213
01:12:12,090 --> 01:12:14,310
gotta go back to the document
that I have one final clip and

1214
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:18,330
around this out. These these
Yahoo's these these geniuses,

1215
01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:22,950
these shills who wrote this
report had the near the end they

1216
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:27,900
say it might reduce budgetary
costs and political risk. If

1217
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:31,470
technical collection agencies
could make use of artificial

1218
01:12:31,470 --> 01:12:35,970
intelligence software that could
be launched onto networks, and

1219
01:12:35,970 --> 01:12:39,300
will be able to determine in
real time what precise

1220
01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:43,410
information packet should be
collected. Such smart software

1221
01:12:43,410 --> 01:12:46,560
will be making the sorting
decision online, as

1222
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,470
distinguished from current
situation in which vast amounts

1223
01:12:49,470 --> 01:12:52,350
of data are swept up. And the
sorting is done after it has

1224
01:12:52,350 --> 01:12:55,650
been copied onto the data
storage systems. were unable to

1225
01:12:55,650 --> 01:12:58,980
determine whether this concept
is feasible or fantasy. But we

1226
01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:02,280
suggest that should be examined
by an inter agency information

1227
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,240
technology research team,
Bonanza,

1228
01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:08,550
that's what I just use your
read. That's the first thing I'm

1229
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:11,760
thinking. I'm wondering what JC
is going to do next. Next

1230
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,450
programming. It'll be that it
says hundreds of millions of

1231
01:13:15,450 --> 01:13:18,810
dollars down the drain. I
guarantee Richard Clarke will be

1232
01:13:18,810 --> 01:13:19,650
in it somehow.

1233
01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:22,860
Of course he will. That's why he
wrote it right in there. This is

1234
01:13:22,860 --> 01:13:24,330
his setup for the next

1235
01:13:24,660 --> 01:13:27,540
set of verges scoring the big
dough.

1236
01:13:27,570 --> 01:13:31,440
Oh, yeah. And then there's a one
other thing you'll hear is a

1237
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:34,740
recommendation that a civilian
should be running the agency.

1238
01:13:35,070 --> 01:13:38,730
Now, let me just tell you what
that means. That's code. Okay.

1239
01:13:38,910 --> 01:13:44,160
And this is code for a spy. My
uncle Don, when he they would

1240
01:13:44,190 --> 01:13:47,370
you would read about him in the,
in his early career in the New

1241
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:50,640
York Times he would say Donald
Greg civilian at the Pentagon.

1242
01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:55,650
This is code. They want a CIA
guy to run the NSA.

1243
01:13:55,740 --> 01:13:59,040
Yeah, that bought Obama Nix that
already. We know that.

1244
01:14:00,180 --> 01:14:02,820
And then while we're at it, but
just just to finish up the whole

1245
01:14:02,820 --> 01:14:07,410
60 minutes, why don't we
completely discredit Edward

1246
01:14:07,410 --> 01:14:10,530
Snowden by making him seem
completely kooky.

1247
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,140
He was taking a technical
examination for potential

1248
01:14:13,140 --> 01:14:16,650
employers and no cheat. Did I
say he used a system

1249
01:14:16,650 --> 01:14:20,610
administrator privileges to go
into the account of the NSA

1250
01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:23,040
employee who was administering
that test?

1251
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:25,980
This is the guy you want to
promote? Isn't this the guy

1252
01:14:25,980 --> 01:14:26,640
who's uh, yeah, it is.

1253
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,550
But by that, did you miss the
mean? They threw the me Mattis

1254
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,070
high school dropout? Yeah.

1255
01:14:32,460 --> 01:14:35,040
I was taking a technical
examination. I forgot to put

1256
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,040
that in your writing for
potential employment and NSA. He

1257
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,220
used a system administrator
privileges to go into the

1258
01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:45,570
account of the NSA employee who
was administering that test. And

1259
01:14:45,570 --> 01:14:49,290
he took both the questions and
the answers and use them to pass

1260
01:14:49,290 --> 01:14:49,860
the test.

1261
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,580
At home, they discovered Snowden
had some strange habits.

1262
01:14:53,670 --> 01:14:56,880
He would work on the computer
with a hood that covered the

1263
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,790
computer screen and covered his
head and shoulders so that he

1264
01:14:59,790 --> 01:15:02,910
could work in his, his
girlfriend couldn't see what he

1265
01:15:02,910 --> 01:15:03,420
was doing.

1266
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:07,320
This seems like standard
procedure to me. But no, no, no,

1267
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:08,460
let's call it very

1268
01:15:08,490 --> 01:15:11,610
exposed to be he was what
protecting the data. He's doing

1269
01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:13,860
his job. Yeah, but no, that's
kooky.

1270
01:15:13,890 --> 01:15:14,370
That's pretty

1271
01:15:14,370 --> 01:15:17,850
strange. sitting at your
computer kind of covered by a

1272
01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:21,540
sheet over your head and the
screen. Agree. Agreed, agreed,

1273
01:15:21,570 --> 01:15:26,400
agreed. Agreed. We also learned
for the first time that part of

1274
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,790
the damage assessment considered
the possibility that Snowden

1275
01:15:29,790 --> 01:15:33,630
could have left a bug or virus
behind on the NSA system. Yeah,

1276
01:15:33,630 --> 01:15:33,840
this

1277
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,740
is the funny I love this part
like a time bomb a time bomb,

1278
01:15:38,190 --> 01:15:40,080
like a time bomb it's

1279
01:15:42,090 --> 01:15:46,830
so all the the machines that he
had access to, we removed from

1280
01:15:46,830 --> 01:15:50,430
our classified network, all the
machines in the unclassified

1281
01:15:50,430 --> 01:15:54,180
network and including the actual
cables that connect those

1282
01:15:54,180 --> 01:15:56,160
machines. We removed the cables,

1283
01:15:56,580 --> 01:16:00,780
the game could be lurking in the
cables is are you telling me

1284
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:03,570
that that's the technical
expertise of this entire

1285
01:16:03,570 --> 01:16:07,920
organisation has gone to
removing cables yet probably

1286
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,500
because they're afraid there's
some evil thing lurking in the

1287
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:14,460
cable problem solved. Problem
solving macro, this is the this

1288
01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:17,790
is the most frightening thing
they said on that show. This has

1289
01:16:17,790 --> 01:16:21,090
to have cost millions and
millions of dollars

1290
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,820
10s of millions and million
millions. All right.

1291
01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:27,510
So to summarise everybody. This
document, which is now being

1292
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:31,890
touted as a great recommendation
is nothing more than a big

1293
01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:34,830
bonanza for some of the, by the
way, morale is leaving, you

1294
01:16:34,830 --> 01:16:37,680
know, he'll wind up at some kind
of cut Oh, yeah, it does this

1295
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:38,070
stuff

1296
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,500
CEO, the chairman of the board,

1297
01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:43,530
not gonna we're not gonna run a
thing just get paid. And

1298
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,450
you won't be sitting here right?
He'll be just beginning to

1299
01:16:45,450 --> 01:16:47,490
calculate. They're gonna build,

1300
01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:49,140
they're gonna build this
software, which is a

1301
01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:53,520
recommendation, the NSA is going
to have much easier access.

1302
01:16:53,730 --> 01:16:56,820
It'll be interesting to see I
have a feeling that there is

1303
01:16:56,820 --> 01:16:59,490
going to be a pitch and there
will be a third party I think

1304
01:16:59,490 --> 01:17:03,930
that I I have a feeling that
that's it's just it's too nice

1305
01:17:03,930 --> 01:17:07,110
of an opportunity. Too much
money with too much money. And

1306
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:09,840
it could be Adobe who couldn't
do all they have to do is just

1307
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,710
walk it across the street in
Utah, the data centres right

1308
01:17:13,710 --> 01:17:15,870
across from the NSA, when Adobe

1309
01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:17,940
has been left out of the
picture, they weren't given the

1310
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:20,520
opportunity to sit at the table
with Obama and Yuk it up and

1311
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,940
drink. Well, they're probably
they they may be you might be

1312
01:17:23,940 --> 01:17:27,750
right. They may be this. I think
that a pro Adobe waltz in

1313
01:17:27,780 --> 01:17:30,420
Yep. So I have a feeling that
Adobe is ready for they already

1314
01:17:30,420 --> 01:17:34,380
have the information. I'm going
to share. Please look at

1315
01:17:34,410 --> 01:17:37,440
Omniture look at what it's
doing. Look at what it stores

1316
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:40,440
look at what the information
look at their white papers. They

1317
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:44,250
have a military and governmental
programme programme for

1318
01:17:44,250 --> 01:17:47,190
Omniture. So you can find out
what's happening in real time

1319
01:17:47,190 --> 01:17:51,240
with someone's computer. This is
what Adobe is very. We're gonna

1320
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,360
see I think they got a little
ding with the passport the the

1321
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,850
password thing they got that
hack you know, that was maybe

1322
01:17:56,850 --> 01:17:59,880
that was industrial espionage to
make espionage to make them look

1323
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:00,240
bad

1324
01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:03,030
with this pending I'm sure
there's competition for that

1325
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:03,510
job.

1326
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:08,070
Nothing is off the table at this
point. And with with with tapper

1327
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:12,900
on CNN, what he's saying and
with this completely unjust

1328
01:18:12,900 --> 01:18:21,090
journalistic, all in scripted 60
minutes piece. There's nothing

1329
01:18:21,090 --> 01:18:24,480
left to believe, except us, of
course, because we have nothing

1330
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:25,380
left to lose.

1331
01:18:27,210 --> 01:18:31,950
Well, we don't, we don't have
the conflict of interest. As we

1332
01:18:31,950 --> 01:18:36,780
pointed out in the newsletter.
We write we lie on the listeners

1333
01:18:36,780 --> 01:18:40,380
of this show. To do the kind of
research we do and come to the

1334
01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:43,980
conclusions we come to sometimes
we're not right, some rarely,

1335
01:18:44,490 --> 01:18:48,570
but it happens. And but we were
not it but if nothing else,

1336
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:53,130
we're not influenced me we were
influenced by the media itself.

1337
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:56,670
But we try to catch most of the
bull crap. And I think we reveal

1338
01:18:56,670 --> 01:19:00,150
that we've caught it 90% of the
time. And then suppose something

1339
01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:04,200
sneaks through rarely, but you
can't rely on anything else. I

1340
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,350
mean, this shows and I don't
even know any other shows like

1341
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:11,400
ours that that are so complete
To do this we really need the

1342
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,040
kind of support that we're not
getting enough of from the

1343
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:16,380
number of people that we that
listen to the show and I'm also

1344
01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:20,010
disappointed in people that that
bail from the show after a while

1345
01:19:20,010 --> 01:19:24,210
because they find what we do is
depressing. When that's not the

1346
01:19:24,210 --> 01:19:24,900
point. No

1347
01:19:24,900 --> 01:19:27,660
that is in fact it's quite the
opposite. You're supposed to

1348
01:19:27,660 --> 01:19:29,940
feel enlightened that you know
what's going on.

1349
01:19:31,740 --> 01:19:34,800
You know, I mean, I guess it's
the blue pill Red Pill the

1350
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,570
normal or choice in which I hate
that but I don't like that

1351
01:19:39,570 --> 01:19:42,270
either. I don't think right?
It's like Okay, forget it. I'm

1352
01:19:42,270 --> 01:19:44,970
not gonna listen to these guys
anymore because I kind of liked

1353
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,620
what I'm told by the by these
liars. Yeah, that's serious. And

1354
01:19:49,770 --> 01:19:55,410
they make a choice to do that.
Yeah. Well, good luck to them.

1355
01:19:55,710 --> 01:19:56,250
Well,

1356
01:19:56,820 --> 01:20:00,960
with that said, as always, thank
you for your time. porridge in

1357
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,670
the morning to you John C.
Dvorak.

1358
01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:04,950
Well, in the morning, do you
Adam curry and also in the

1359
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:07,860
morning all the ships out there
that are at sea boots on the

1360
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:10,410
ground feet in the air subs in
the water and all the Dames and

1361
01:20:10,410 --> 01:20:11,670
all the nights out there. And of

1362
01:20:11,670 --> 01:20:13,890
course our human resources in
our chat room. No agenda

1363
01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:17,460
stream.com no agenda chat.net
Our artists, we had a great

1364
01:20:17,460 --> 01:20:20,460
piece of art, a lot of competing
pieces of art, actually for

1365
01:20:20,460 --> 01:20:26,610
five, seven for festival we
broski which I think is is a

1366
01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:27,330
pseudonym.

1367
01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:30,180
Yeah. Because if you looked at
the if you click if you don't

1368
01:20:30,180 --> 01:20:32,400
look, click on the link, but if
you just look at the thing, it's

1369
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,810
got his name on. Oh, really? In
the piece? Oh, really? Yes. And

1370
01:20:36,810 --> 01:20:38,460
you know who it is? And I know
who it is. I don't know if he

1371
01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:40,260
wants to know that. Does
everyone know but maybe

1372
01:20:40,260 --> 01:20:46,500
not? Well, look, we're crediting
as it's written in no agenda,

1373
01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:49,800
art generator.com. And, as
always, we look forward to

1374
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:54,780
seeing what the sharp wit of our
artists come up with. We're now

1375
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,050
I think it's not working in iOS
seven. I've been very careful to

1376
01:20:58,050 --> 01:21:02,430
make sure we get the get the RT
a and it's like an extra iTunes

1377
01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:07,380
tag. Another non standard thing
to throw in there. Got to decode

1378
01:21:07,380 --> 01:21:10,560
that by hand to make sure it
flows in. Oh, well.

1379
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:16,920
We have us. We have one
executive producer and four

1380
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,550
associates. And we want to thank
them beginning with Dennis

1381
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:26,730
Nutting in Hilo. He's in Hilo,
Hawaii when life which is a cute

1382
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,070
cute little town. I don't know
when I was in Hilo, I was only

1383
01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:34,890
there once ever. And I was there
when there was a when the old

1384
01:21:34,890 --> 01:21:38,280
airport was still in business.
And the old Hilo airport was the

1385
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,550
quaintest thing you've ever
seen. I mean they had everything

1386
01:21:41,550 --> 01:21:44,970
was outside. You know the it was
just really crying because

1387
01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:50,340
anyway, Hilo, Hawaii, and he has
a note he sent in Hello Adam and

1388
01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:53,640
John enclosed a little Christmas
wish for you and yours. You

1389
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,810
certainly have helped me make my
year a great one. I still do not

1390
01:21:57,810 --> 01:22:01,170
deserve a D douching. As I'm way
behind in the value for devalue

1391
01:22:01,170 --> 01:22:06,180
deal we have made you're finally
receiving your do as I just made

1392
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:08,850
the very last payment to the
crappy divorce lawyer.

1393
01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:09,990
Oh gosh.

1394
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:14,100
And you certainly deserve more
than he does give us 333 33 more

1395
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:17,340
will follow. Thank you for your
courage and thank you for

1396
01:22:17,340 --> 01:22:20,940
enlightening us slaves and
thanks for yours and Merry

1397
01:22:20,940 --> 01:22:21,840
Christmas. Thank

1398
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,410
you very much Dennis. And of
course that is a real executive

1399
01:22:25,410 --> 01:22:28,080
producer credit you can use it
anywhere the credits are

1400
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,800
accepted and valid. Hollywood
would be one place your IMDB but

1401
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,160
also your LinkedIn is a great
place to put your credit as

1402
01:22:35,190 --> 01:22:38,640
executive producer of the no
agenda Show episode 575

1403
01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:44,010
Brian Kaufman from Phoenix
Arizona writes in he gave us

1404
01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:49,170
222 22 Sorry if it's been so
long I've been in law school the

1405
01:22:49,170 --> 01:22:51,960
last three years although I've
managed to finish my knighthood

1406
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,060
and is this the finish of his
knighthood?

1407
01:22:54,090 --> 01:22:56,850
I don't know. No. I think he's
already a knight isn't he?

1408
01:22:57,420 --> 01:23:00,270
I'm not sure it yeah, yes. It
says Sir Brian. So

1409
01:23:00,270 --> 01:23:01,470
you say he's already a knight.

1410
01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:02,610
Okay, it's already thought

1411
01:23:04,020 --> 01:23:07,620
and maintain a 1212
subscription. I graduated in May

1412
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:12,480
became a member of the Arizona
bar in October. He by the way,

1413
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:16,320
he wrote this by hand, and just
started working and got my first

1414
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:21,390
paycheck and he looks like a
psychopath. Lawyer. No, He's

1415
01:23:21,630 --> 01:23:25,830
young. He's under 30 or under
all whatever age it is next that

1416
01:23:25,860 --> 01:23:29,820
you can't write. Yeah, but he's
a lawyer. And he's a lawyer, but

1417
01:23:29,820 --> 01:23:34,380
doctors gonna be worse. He got
my first paycheck as a lawyer

1418
01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:37,620
yesterday. Congratulations, my
222 22 donations just to make it

1419
01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:42,330
rain. The nice clubs these days
are giving or giving out to

1420
01:23:42,330 --> 01:23:47,190
dollar bills instead of ones.
That's interesting. Oh, so not a

1421
01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:51,510
double. No particular call out I
will be happy with everyone

1422
01:23:51,510 --> 01:24:00,660
else's sloppy seconds. Adam can
have any dudes. Thanks. Thanks

1423
01:24:00,660 --> 01:24:01,320
for the show.

1424
01:24:03,060 --> 01:24:06,000
I can I can pick up the sloppy
second dudes. Is that what I'm

1425
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:06,270
hearing?

1426
01:24:07,740 --> 01:24:09,810
Keep it clean family, especially
executive

1427
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:12,420
producer Brian, thank you. This
is not a family show.

1428
01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:14,370
Greg Christopher grim

1429
01:24:14,460 --> 01:24:17,190
wells a lot of families say your
village has been a while since

1430
01:24:17,190 --> 01:24:18,060
I've been down there.

1431
01:24:18,450 --> 01:24:23,580
Yeah. $2 $200.01 Hello, Bob
Cratchit and Tiny Tim, thank you

1432
01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:25,950
for your courage. I'm a recent
college graduate with a degree

1433
01:24:25,950 --> 01:24:29,640
in theatre. But I had to get a
real job to start paying the

1434
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,950
bills. The good news is I've
been able to save enough money

1435
01:24:31,950 --> 01:24:34,530
to become an Associate Executive
Producer the best podcast in the

1436
01:24:34,530 --> 01:24:37,920
universe. Please give me some
job karma and some getting laid

1437
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,250
karma. If anyone is looking for
an actor in the greater New York

1438
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area, I think that would be
Visit my website about me about

1439
01:24:49,530 --> 01:24:56,070
me slash Chris CHR is grim GRI
Mmm. And take a look at my

1440
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:59,160
headshot and resume. You know
you have to do a little more

1441
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:03,390
than that. Good it's called
cattle cars calls thanks for the

1442
01:25:03,390 --> 01:25:06,510
amazing service you guys provide
hailed the foot?

1443
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:12,720
Yeah, it's amazing ah hyphen
mazing ah ah mazing here you

1444
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,270
gotta get laid job karma for you
Thank you very much Christopher

1445
01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:20,190
Scott karma we wish you nothing
but the best of

1446
01:25:20,190 --> 01:25:23,880
course. Mike Sabres in Danville,
Pennsylvania tuner dollars.

1447
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,540
Merry Christmas, Mike. So
apparently this is wasn't really

1448
01:25:27,540 --> 01:25:30,960
from him with love from your
girls. Oh, that's

1449
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,730
nice. Yeah, somebody's

1450
01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:38,250
got his account. He's got two
babes are more. Or she could be

1451
01:25:38,250 --> 01:25:41,490
his daughters. Who knows? We
don't know. Charles gene Kohler

1452
01:25:41,490 --> 01:25:44,340
in Mountlake Terrace,
Washington. Joyner dazu.

1453
01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:46,890
Finally, associate final
Associate Executive producers

1454
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,330
who writes a note on the back of
a small receipt for Chinese

1455
01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:55,560
goods apparently. I love your
courage to it says he says we

1456
01:25:55,560 --> 01:26:00,270
want to thank Charles Mike,
Christopher, Brian and Dennis

1457
01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:04,080
for helping us out on show 575
And we want to remind people to

1458
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,350
go to divorce.org/and a
challenge of org.com/na no

1459
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:09,930
agenda show.com And no agenda
nation.com. There's a Donate

1460
01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:12,840
button on both those sites. And
help us for the next show on

1461
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,680
Sunday. And we are coming up a
little light considering it's

1462
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,400
Christmas. And last year. We did
a really good we had a good

1463
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,570
December and this year is
pretty. Pretty. Pretty. Nothing.

1464
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,900
Yeah. Well, except for our fine
friends here. Yeah.

1465
01:26:29,190 --> 01:26:32,520
That's it. We'll have a
relatively short we'll have a

1466
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:37,440
very short segment for thank
yous as well. But okay. I don't

1467
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,680
know if this is not like last
year. Yeah, no, it's weird, for

1468
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,810
sure. Please consider us as we
are working very hard to bring

1469
01:26:45,810 --> 01:26:50,970
you more value than you get from
your cable bill, perhaps that

1470
01:26:50,970 --> 01:26:53,730
you get from maybe your
newspaper or magazine

1471
01:26:53,730 --> 01:26:54,420
subscription.

1472
01:26:56,700 --> 01:26:58,890
You know, we'll have more
insight, that's for sure. Yeah,

1473
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,990
a lot of people say well, we'll
say oh, man, what do you think

1474
01:27:00,990 --> 01:27:03,720
about this, I think about that,
you want to know, you know what,

1475
01:27:03,930 --> 01:27:06,510
just wait until the show, you
don't have to read up to watch

1476
01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:09,660
anything. And we'll give you all
the angles and you can probably

1477
01:27:09,660 --> 01:27:11,850
make up your own mind
ultimately, but will will

1478
01:27:11,850 --> 01:27:15,330
certainly give you a fun
perspective to look at. And

1479
01:27:15,330 --> 01:27:18,090
people do that more and more.
You know, why bother with the

1480
01:27:18,090 --> 01:27:21,000
will do all that for you. That's
not as our job. It's what we do.

1481
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:26,430
So you don't have to vote.org/in
a hand please. We would

1482
01:27:26,430 --> 01:27:31,500
appreciate you going out there
and oops. wrong here. This is

1483
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:35,010
the one I want. Yes, we want you
to go out there and propagate

1484
01:27:35,010 --> 01:27:36,180
our formula. I'm sorry.

1485
01:27:36,389 --> 01:27:41,129
Our formula is this. We go out.
We hit people in the mouth

1486
01:27:53,460 --> 01:27:56,250
that's the I'm gonna have a cup.
A little bit of coffee here.

1487
01:27:56,250 --> 01:28:00,660
That's the illness creeping in.
And rest in peace there. Al

1488
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:01,710
Goldstein died.

1489
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,420
Oh, screw magazine. Yeah. That
was to have a show. My favourite

1490
01:28:06,420 --> 01:28:09,390
thing he ever did. Yeah, that
guy was disgusting. By the way.

1491
01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:13,860
He was great. He was the best
thing he did. He was on public

1492
01:28:13,860 --> 01:28:16,620
access in New York, Manhattan.
Always the funniest.

1493
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:20,010
I was in New York when a
midnight blue was the show when

1494
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,980
when he had that show. I'd lived
in New York at that time. It was

1495
01:28:23,460 --> 01:28:24,330
channel J.

1496
01:28:24,780 --> 01:28:26,790
I thought Alex Bennett did
Midnight Blue.

1497
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,430
No, I'm pretty sure it was.

1498
01:28:29,490 --> 01:28:32,010
Well, whatever the case was.
Goldstein was always on public

1499
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:34,770
access doing one thing or
another. And my favourite one

1500
01:28:34,770 --> 01:28:38,490
was he had this show. Where if
you were invited to come on, I

1501
01:28:38,490 --> 01:28:42,990
guess and cuss out people. Yeah.
And and all he had to get

1502
01:28:42,990 --> 01:28:46,050
complaints. He I saw this show a
couple times that all it was was

1503
01:28:46,050 --> 01:28:52,320
gold stain on the screen giving
the finger and saying fuck you

1504
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,470
hammock or schlemm mirror,
whatever, whatever. Whoever he

1505
01:28:55,470 --> 01:29:00,000
was angry at. And it fuck you
United Airlines. And he was he

1506
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,930
tells some story about how they
screwed him out of $1. Or just

1507
01:29:03,930 --> 01:29:07,080
they wouldn't refund his money
or something. And then he would

1508
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,020
sit there and scream at them.
And I just thought this was

1509
01:29:10,020 --> 01:29:12,060
like, wow, this is what has come
to

1510
01:29:12,090 --> 01:29:16,050
Yeah, well, but on the other
hand, those were the golden days

1511
01:29:16,050 --> 01:29:19,950
of free speech that the whole
idea of cable access. When cable

1512
01:29:19,950 --> 01:29:22,200
first started, no one knew what
to do with cable. They didn't

1513
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,620
get it. I mean, you kids here
today you think is normal?

1514
01:29:25,620 --> 01:29:28,680
That's television? No, that
didn't. Advertisers were like,

1515
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,390
who's gonna watch that crap? You
know, no one got it. And part of

1516
01:29:33,390 --> 01:29:36,930
the deal was in order to have a
cable company, which is kind of

1517
01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:42,450
a monopoly. In the region, you
had to allow public access, and

1518
01:29:42,450 --> 01:29:45,810
anyone could show up with their
tape. And you'd have to have

1519
01:29:45,810 --> 01:29:48,930
channels for people to put it
on. And these were the and Al

1520
01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:52,860
Goldstein, who was really yeah,
he was a disgusting creep, but

1521
01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:56,280
he was a free speech advocate
and you need people like him to

1522
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,460
push those boundaries to show
that it's, you're supposed to be

1523
01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:04,770
able to do that and I guarantee
you if today you tried to do

1524
01:30:04,770 --> 01:30:10,860
this type of show on anywhere on
cable that it would be thrown

1525
01:30:10,860 --> 01:30:14,640
off. Yeah. If you didn't get
jailed. Yeah,

1526
01:30:15,090 --> 01:30:18,090
exactly. And so of course,
that's why we've migrated to

1527
01:30:18,090 --> 01:30:22,590
podcasting. Which brings up one
other thing I wanted to I didn't

1528
01:30:22,590 --> 01:30:28,140
see your name on it. Did you see
this? Writer's for free speech

1529
01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:30,810
thing that they sent to the
President in mind? Was that

1530
01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:36,600
maybe the it was ACLU or the p n
was a pen? I think pen America

1531
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:42,090
centre. It was like for four or
500 writers all said, you know,

1532
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,860
stop the surveillance, because
we're self censoring. You didn't

1533
01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:47,640
see this at all?

1534
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:49,050
I mean, that's self censoring.

1535
01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:52,710
Sorry. No, you're not. But

1536
01:30:52,980 --> 01:30:55,530
no, I think I've heard about it.
I didn't pay

1537
01:30:55,530 --> 01:30:59,010
much. Well, there's, there's a
number of articles. And, and I'm

1538
01:30:59,010 --> 01:31:00,960
just bringing this up for this
very reason why it's interesting

1539
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,970
that we that we have taken to
the podcasting in our artistic

1540
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:12,780
and our expression. Because
there's many articles saying

1541
01:31:12,780 --> 01:31:16,530
how, you know, writers are not
talking about things as much on

1542
01:31:16,530 --> 01:31:18,990
the phone, you know, they're
because writers are pussies,

1543
01:31:18,990 --> 01:31:22,770
apparently. And journalists are
probably the bigger postseason.

1544
01:31:22,770 --> 01:31:25,740
And of course, they're right to
be worried because you are being

1545
01:31:25,740 --> 01:31:29,250
listened to, but also what
people write, they're holding

1546
01:31:29,250 --> 01:31:31,860
back their self censoring. And I
thought to myself, this is kind

1547
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:36,870
of beautiful, because the
podcast. Yeah, I think you can

1548
01:31:36,900 --> 01:31:39,570
some transcription may be
possible. But in general, I

1549
01:31:39,570 --> 01:31:44,880
think it's not the NSA, no one
has time to listen to what we're

1550
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,450
saying the type of information
and news that we are actually

1551
01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:52,140
giving. And if they did, they'd
be sucked in within a minute

1552
01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:56,640
they'd be donating to we are
kind of the perfect avenue

1553
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,240
because it's not something that
gets sucked up in, in machine

1554
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:05,340
language that can read words.
And it's, you know, it's too

1555
01:32:05,340 --> 01:32:07,620
much work to go through
everything. But if someone does

1556
01:32:07,620 --> 01:32:09,480
take the time, I think they'll
probably like it.

1557
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,440
Yeah, I think so. So I

1558
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,810
think we're, this is a very
important service.

1559
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,600
Yeah, that's what we say. So we
keep trying to convince

1560
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:22,170
ourselves

1561
01:32:22,410 --> 01:32:26,700
just pointing it out. Just just
need to convince myself nobody's

1562
01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:29,640
got to do it. I mean, it's a
once in a while, essentially,

1563
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,090
the what I saw on the L
Goldstein show, and I think it's

1564
01:32:33,090 --> 01:32:35,730
what it was called, not I think
about it. And Robin, what's her

1565
01:32:35,730 --> 01:32:40,620
name? Robin, Robin bird, Robin
bird, she was nude. Yeah. And

1566
01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:42,510
just gave interviews, she was
naked, and we'd get

1567
01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:44,460
the bang for your buck song at
the end.

1568
01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:49,260
And then there was the you know,
the extra E is for extra P girl.

1569
01:32:49,260 --> 01:32:52,200
Yeah. And all the rest of it
that was on there was a goal. It

1570
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,840
was just a funny moment in
history that disappeared

1571
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,050
completely. It was beautiful.
And now as we get this is the

1572
01:32:58,050 --> 01:33:02,430
start clamping down and smashing
dissent and all the rest of it.

1573
01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:05,580
And I want to tell people out
there who think about donating

1574
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:07,950
says screw those guys. We did
let them day right and get it

1575
01:33:07,950 --> 01:33:10,770
for free. Why should I give them
a nickel, I wanted to say, you

1576
01:33:10,770 --> 01:33:13,680
know, you probably listen to
something that won't ever be

1577
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,310
seen, again, anything like it?
Probably five or 10 years. And

1578
01:33:17,310 --> 01:33:21,030
I'd be like, go I remember those
guys used to tell all these

1579
01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:23,280
things. And they used to go
through documents, and now they

1580
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,780
won't even let us see the
documents.

1581
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,960
Remember how I never donated to
those guys, and now they're

1582
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:28,530
dead?

1583
01:33:29,370 --> 01:33:31,680
I never donate because, you
know, I didn't think it was

1584
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:35,430
worth Why should I don't and now
they're dead. Now we got people

1585
01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:38,910
that donate over and over again,
which is you know, the ideal.

1586
01:33:38,940 --> 01:33:42,000
Yeah, but it's but there's so
many people out there that just

1587
01:33:42,030 --> 01:33:46,380
are too. You know, it reminds me
talking about cheap. I mean,

1588
01:33:46,380 --> 01:33:48,720
it's like they've the story
going around, we'll get to next,

1589
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:53,880
which is the Indian diplomat
story. Well, chat, it's a funny

1590
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,110
story in itself. Before

1591
01:33:55,110 --> 01:34:00,270
we get into that, let's just
pause for a second with 99% of

1592
01:34:00,270 --> 01:34:05,400
all of the information products
you consume, which are changing

1593
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,180
by the way and Internet
services, you consume what you

1594
01:34:09,180 --> 01:34:12,450
think are for free, like, you
know, like Gmail, and you know,

1595
01:34:12,450 --> 01:34:17,040
and then and then they change
all the time and this is you are

1596
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,130
being upgraded for their actual
customers. Okay, that's what's

1597
01:34:20,130 --> 01:34:24,270
going on here. You the products
are being upgraded for their

1598
01:34:24,270 --> 01:34:27,120
customers, which is the
advertisers. No one has given

1599
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,780
you the actual information.
We're giving you real

1600
01:34:30,780 --> 01:34:35,220
information, and we're giving
you community we're giving you a

1601
01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:39,300
whole bunch of things and the
opportunity to support it. All

1602
01:34:39,300 --> 01:34:40,980
right, now you're gonna talk
about some cheapass Indian

1603
01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:42,840
because that's usually what
comes after the word Indian.

1604
01:34:43,650 --> 01:34:47,340
Well, there was a funny story
that went on this week, which is

1605
01:34:47,340 --> 01:34:51,600
the diplomat of in we're I guess
we're gonna have the New York

1606
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,610
counsellor someday, which I
always thought diplomatic

1607
01:34:53,610 --> 01:34:57,270
immunity meant what what it
says, which is immunity.

1608
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,450
But that's for parking tickets.
Isn't it

1609
01:35:00,810 --> 01:35:04,020
I thought it was a murder to me
based on what I've seen in

1610
01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:07,050
really well I mean it just I'm
going by what I see on Tumblr

1611
01:35:07,050 --> 01:35:12,030
try that out so there's the
story is becoming quite funny

1612
01:35:12,030 --> 01:35:15,630
because this woman apparently
was and it's all based on the

1613
01:35:15,660 --> 01:35:20,220
cheap Indian meme she claimed on
her visa form I do have a clip

1614
01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:22,530
you might as well play it new
and get it go through it that

1615
01:35:22,530 --> 01:35:24,120
was his incident one

1616
01:35:24,690 --> 01:35:26,430
yeah Indian Well, yeah, right
one

1617
01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:29,370
can do is government says it's
shocked and appalled at the

1618
01:35:29,370 --> 01:35:32,220
manner in which its deputy
consul general in New York has

1619
01:35:32,220 --> 01:35:36,570
been quote, humiliated. Devyani
cover, Gotti arrested last week

1620
01:35:36,570 --> 01:35:39,360
charged with making false
statements and visa fraud on an

1621
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:43,680
application for a housekeeper.
She pleaded not guilty and was

1622
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,530
released on $250,000 bail.

1623
01:35:47,309 --> 01:35:50,969
A diplomatic tit for tat is
underway. On Tuesday, concrete

1624
01:35:50,969 --> 01:35:53,849
security barriers were removed
in front of the US Embassy in

1625
01:35:53,849 --> 01:35:57,239
New Delhi. India's responding to
what it says was the heavy

1626
01:35:57,239 --> 01:36:00,719
handed treatment of one of its
diplomats. Last week India's

1627
01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:03,959
Consul General Divya Nico briody
was arrested over charges of

1628
01:36:03,959 --> 01:36:07,409
visa fraud. She was handcuffed
strip search and me to share

1629
01:36:07,409 --> 01:36:10,889
jail cell with the prisoner
population. India has won the

1630
01:36:10,889 --> 01:36:14,039
United States have consequences
until it gets an apology.

1631
01:36:14,610 --> 01:36:22,500
Every country has dignity and
cannot be in this manner. More

1632
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:28,290
steps should be taken against
the United States until they

1633
01:36:28,290 --> 01:36:29,850
give an unconditional apology.

1634
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:33,390
Cobra is accused of lying on her
domestic workers visa

1635
01:36:33,390 --> 01:36:37,200
application saying she would pay
975 an hour when in fact she

1636
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:41,490
paid 331 below minimum wage.
While India has not disputed the

1637
01:36:41,490 --> 01:36:44,760
charges it says this is not her
diplomats are friendly nations

1638
01:36:44,940 --> 01:36:48,390
or to be treated shaken up by
the Indian response the US has

1639
01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:50,670
said this is an isolated
incident.

1640
01:36:53,010 --> 01:36:56,550
Well then Jen or whatever her
name is hearth

1641
01:36:57,930 --> 01:36:58,770
band camp.

1642
01:36:59,610 --> 01:37:04,080
And she said the band camp girl
comes out and she makes she's

1643
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,960
she doesn't really say anything
as usual in soccer your

1644
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:12,000
heart is it Marie Harford Okay,
Marie harp harp harp harm her.

1645
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:12,630
Yeah.

1646
01:37:13,470 --> 01:37:15,480
Can I go? Isn't she the
Bandcamp? girl? She's

1647
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:16,950
the Bandcamp girl. Yeah, yeah,
yeah.

1648
01:37:18,180 --> 01:37:21,930
This limited episode was
somebody who was charged with a

1649
01:37:21,930 --> 01:37:25,860
crime is a separate and isolated
incident. We know this is a

1650
01:37:25,860 --> 01:37:27,720
sensitive issue though. And
that's why we're looking at what

1651
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,090
transpired and talking to the
Indians about it. drug approval,

1652
01:37:30,090 --> 01:37:30,690
bilateral

1653
01:37:30,690 --> 01:37:33,360
relations between India and the
United States have grown

1654
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:37,080
stronger in recent years. Many
believe India's reactions oh

1655
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,720
wait for the government to flex
its muscle and stand up to the

1656
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,270
US ahead of next year's general
election.

1657
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,290
Back to Friday briefings I'm
sorry that August is over. Oh,

1658
01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:49,800
and this one time at bandcamp I
don't have anything at the top

1659
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:50,130
today.

1660
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:53,220
I stuck a flute and I just can't
help myself.

1661
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,340
She can't that's it. That is the
grossest thing that we

1662
01:37:56,340 --> 01:37:58,980
consistently play as an
evergreen but it's also let it

1663
01:37:58,980 --> 01:37:59,850
sounds just like her

1664
01:38:00,390 --> 01:38:05,010
from a number one movie that
everyone knows is great. If I

1665
01:38:05,010 --> 01:38:06,240
ever met her I just be like

1666
01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:13,050
yeah, well anyway the Indians
and then we have the I don't

1667
01:38:13,050 --> 01:38:15,450
understand why they had the
strip searched the woman because

1668
01:38:15,450 --> 01:38:20,130
it just seems funny. It's much
funnier. Who is a hilarious we

1669
01:38:20,130 --> 01:38:21,990
all admit to that and the
Indians don't have much of a

1670
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:25,290
sense of humour. From what I can
tell. I mean, I've seen their

1671
01:38:25,290 --> 01:38:29,490
movies but now they've like they
took all the barriers away and

1672
01:38:29,490 --> 01:38:32,190
they stopped the Indian guard
around the US Embassy they just

1673
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,860
fight it mafia attack the
embassy

1674
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:39,720
isn't this kind of just the way
it made three bucks an hour now

1675
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,060
but this is the way it go this
is what we do when we want to

1676
01:38:42,060 --> 01:38:45,090
pick a fight with somebody the
Russians are doing the same with

1677
01:38:45,090 --> 01:38:49,770
the Netherlands right now. We
had that the we arrested one of

1678
01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:52,800
their diplomats they arrested
one of ours now they're like

1679
01:38:53,010 --> 01:38:55,680
well, we're not going to take
your milk products anymore. Is

1680
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,670
this childish? It's just going
back and forth. When it's all

1681
01:38:59,670 --> 01:39:02,820
really about buying some big gun
or something. It's always the

1682
01:39:02,820 --> 01:39:08,460
same Indians I don't know. I
don't understand. I don't

1683
01:39:08,460 --> 01:39:12,450
understand the Indian are they
is India any good to us at all?

1684
01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:14,460
These in you have any use?

1685
01:39:14,849 --> 01:39:18,149
Well, they provide us with most
of our semiconductor designers.

1686
01:39:18,179 --> 01:39:20,549
Okay, well see they have a real
knack for

1687
01:39:20,670 --> 01:39:23,130
what we're finding we could we
could grow those guys here.

1688
01:39:23,790 --> 01:39:25,080
Yeah, to a point

1689
01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:28,650
these guys are really good at
that. Yeah, that's about it from

1690
01:39:28,650 --> 01:39:34,200
what I can tell but I could be
wrong but I don't know because

1691
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,350
we don't have to admit we know
Indians admit to ever listening

1692
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:40,140
to the show except a few that
have you know, become Americans

1693
01:39:40,140 --> 01:39:42,210
and I'm not I don't I don't
think they count we never have a

1694
01:39:42,210 --> 01:39:46,770
dash they do a once every two
years. One of them donates, but

1695
01:39:46,770 --> 01:39:50,100
they're just really as of the
opinion they have this their

1696
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:53,820
religious their basic religious
orientation with reincarnation

1697
01:39:53,820 --> 01:39:56,610
in the rest is that you get what
you deserve, when there's no

1698
01:39:56,610 --> 01:39:58,260
reason to donate anything,

1699
01:39:58,290 --> 01:40:00,660
but then they get what they
deserve or they get out scoring.

1700
01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:02,760
Well, they do get our scoring
which is

1701
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:09,630
a the, the FBI something really
I'm gonna get this from this

1702
01:40:09,630 --> 01:40:13,980
must have been. It was really
funny. Of course we had our six

1703
01:40:13,980 --> 01:40:19,860
week cycle and the FBI I think
they're pissed off because you

1704
01:40:19,860 --> 01:40:22,680
know this is this is what they
do this is the big all you know

1705
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,110
we've entrapped some guy but
they never really tell it like

1706
01:40:25,110 --> 01:40:28,800
that. But we've stopped someone
from from blowing up the

1707
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,830
airport. We've thought of this
self radicalised, homegrown

1708
01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:35,460
terrorist plot, intended to kill
lots of people. And it got

1709
01:40:35,460 --> 01:40:39,510
snowed under because of this
unfortunate school shooting. So

1710
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:42,720
the FBI comes out and they send
a douchebag and this guy is a

1711
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:48,360
douchebag. He's got a really
weird, round, funny, sweaty head

1712
01:40:49,650 --> 01:40:51,270
to say the following today, the

1713
01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:56,400
FBI said that this year, its
agents prevented 150 attacks

1714
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:57,750
like the one in Colorado,

1715
01:40:58,650 --> 01:41:03,780
or so. So are you kidding? It
gets better, because they're

1716
01:41:03,780 --> 01:41:07,860
actually going to now say that
they always try to stop someone

1717
01:41:07,860 --> 01:41:10,650
from violence. Well, the
opposite is true because they

1718
01:41:10,650 --> 01:41:14,310
try to honeypot them into doing
it. This is the funniest clip,

1719
01:41:14,429 --> 01:41:17,849
the Bureau is working with
communities to spot potential

1720
01:41:17,849 --> 01:41:21,899
threats early. And our HOMELAND
SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Bob Orr

1721
01:41:21,899 --> 01:41:27,119
got an inside look at how it
works. Andre Simmons runs an FBI

1722
01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:30,659
unit charged with stopping mass
shootings before they happen

1723
01:41:31,139 --> 01:41:33,899
three times a week Simmons and
the behavioural Threat

1724
01:41:33,929 --> 01:41:36,989
Assessment Centre, confront a
case dealing with a potential

1725
01:41:36,989 --> 01:41:40,919
shooter identified through tips
from churches, police, campus

1726
01:41:40,919 --> 01:41:45,389
security and businesses. And
when you study somebody, what is

1727
01:41:45,389 --> 01:41:48,359
it that jumps off the page and
use this as a real problem?

1728
01:41:48,389 --> 01:41:51,569
Oh, pay attention pay attention.
This is what they're looking for

1729
01:41:51,599 --> 01:41:52,019
reps

1730
01:41:52,050 --> 01:41:55,170
what we look at is there a
fascination with previous

1731
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:55,890
attacks?

1732
01:41:57,900 --> 01:41:59,910
I hope no one looks at my Google
searches.

1733
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:05,190
Is there a overwhelming sense of
a downward spiral?

1734
01:42:05,220 --> 01:42:05,970
Oh, yeah.

1735
01:42:07,410 --> 01:42:10,260
Often in mass shootings as in
the attacks of the Colorado

1736
01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:13,890
movie theatre and the Washington
Navy Yard. Gunmen reveal warning

1737
01:42:13,890 --> 01:42:17,910
signs to coworkers neighbours or
classmates. Simmons says when

1738
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:20,970
the FBI gets an early heads up
about threatening behaviour.

1739
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:24,210
Analysts work to redirect the
subject from violence to mental

1740
01:42:24,210 --> 01:42:24,930
health treatment.

1741
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,730
This is okay so stop here. A
this is clearly another another

1742
01:42:29,730 --> 01:42:34,020
notch in the war on crazy
because you know you're crazy.

1743
01:42:34,650 --> 01:42:39,750
And to this is a lie. The FBI
says oh, hey, here's a guy who

1744
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:42,660
wants to blow some up let's go
egg him on

1745
01:42:42,690 --> 01:42:46,710
monitoring or custody. The FBI
team researches the subjects

1746
01:42:46,710 --> 01:42:50,700
background and often interviews
the person and acquaintances. In

1747
01:42:50,700 --> 01:42:55,170
the past year the behavioural
team has tackled 150 cases, not

1748
01:42:55,170 --> 01:42:56,790
one resulted in violence.

1749
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,600
Do you believe this? John, do
you believe what they're doing?

1750
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,050
is great. Just I think you
thought this would be clip

1751
01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:04,200
that's

1752
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:05,310
what I thought Yeah, isn't about

1753
01:43:05,310 --> 01:43:07,410
making the rest or locking
people up. This is about

1754
01:43:07,410 --> 01:43:08,400
stopping events.

1755
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,090
While prosecution obviously
remains as the FBI one of our

1756
01:43:12,090 --> 01:43:15,420
main priorities. We really think
prevention is even better.

1757
01:43:16,230 --> 01:43:18,030
I still the challenge is growing

1758
01:43:19,050 --> 01:43:20,010
through entrapment.

1759
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:23,580
Fire at a Colorado High School
is the latest reminder, these

1760
01:43:23,580 --> 01:43:24,420
active shooters

1761
01:43:24,690 --> 01:43:28,200
or continuing so we're doing
everything we can to unite

1762
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,690
mental healthcare resources with
law enforcement and make a

1763
01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:31,500
positive change.

1764
01:43:31,530 --> 01:43:34,380
Yeah, we're on crazy mental
health care. Two things to say

1765
01:43:34,380 --> 01:43:37,050
about that one, you're not going
to hear much more about the

1766
01:43:37,050 --> 01:43:41,250
Arapahoe high school shooting
for two reasons. One, it was a

1767
01:43:41,310 --> 01:43:46,800
an armed security officer who
stopped this arm

1768
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,850
before you go on. I was watching
one of these shows and they were

1769
01:43:50,850 --> 01:43:53,730
going on at night. The litany
was there was you know gun

1770
01:43:53,730 --> 01:43:56,910
violence. They played a two
clips they played the head of

1771
01:43:56,910 --> 01:44:00,540
the NRA who recommended so you
guys got a problem with this. We

1772
01:44:00,540 --> 01:44:04,170
like our guns put an arm guard
guy into school and that'll stop

1773
01:44:04,170 --> 01:44:08,580
it. Yes. And yeah, so they did
that. No one's gonna whoops,

1774
01:44:08,580 --> 01:44:11,070
wait a minute. Well, let's back
off on this because this is

1775
01:44:11,070 --> 01:44:12,930
actually what the NRA suggested.

1776
01:44:13,260 --> 01:44:16,200
And there's this little ditty is
what another student had to say

1777
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:16,590
about him.

1778
01:44:18,810 --> 01:44:22,290
Because funnily enough, very
proud of being a socialist.

1779
01:44:23,670 --> 01:44:24,810
He was very

1780
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,220
outspoken on his political
views. Well, bomb to him. It

1781
01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:30,000
just meant

1782
01:44:31,050 --> 01:44:33,270
economic equality. More economic
equality.

1783
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:38,370
Proud to be a socialist. Oops,
kid. The shooter. Yeah. Proud to

1784
01:44:38,370 --> 01:44:41,640
be a socialist. Oops, oops.
Yeah, no, I think we should

1785
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:48,300
shoot Sheesh. Don't talk ixnay
on the OSHA list, say, okay,

1786
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:48,780
somebody's gonna

1787
01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:52,140
get chewed out for this. Because
they put it into the public

1788
01:44:52,140 --> 01:44:55,020
domain. I mean, obviously,
there's 150 of these events kind

1789
01:44:55,020 --> 01:44:57,870
of commonly happening. And they
could have put any one of them

1790
01:44:57,870 --> 01:45:00,540
up there. But they did put up
the Wichita today. In the

1791
01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:03,090
meanwhile, there's some whoever
let this thing slide into the

1792
01:45:03,090 --> 01:45:05,880
public consciousness. We've made
a huge mistake. Huge

1793
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:11,190
mistake. And if you remember we
had well, I'll actually I'll

1794
01:45:11,190 --> 01:45:15,090
bring it up after this. This is
the latest development in the

1795
01:45:15,090 --> 01:45:17,910
Boston bombing the Boston
bombing, of course, where

1796
01:45:17,940 --> 01:45:22,590
apparently there is a videotape
of the Sarnath brothers one or

1797
01:45:22,590 --> 01:45:28,290
two, depositing in a backpack
with said, pressure cooker

1798
01:45:28,290 --> 01:45:30,660
explosive into the wastebasket.

1799
01:45:30,810 --> 01:45:32,430
Oh, is that right, Adam? Have

1800
01:45:32,430 --> 01:45:35,820
you seen that video? No, we have
not seen the video, nor has the

1801
01:45:35,820 --> 01:45:38,340
governor of Massachusetts seen
the video, although he's

1802
01:45:38,340 --> 01:45:40,350
reliably informed it exists.

1803
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:44,460
But But, but But why? Why have
we seen this video? Well,

1804
01:45:44,490 --> 01:45:49,020
because it's for your own
protection by 911. Security is

1805
01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:55,080
something but of course, now we
know the real issue.

1806
01:45:55,110 --> 01:45:57,030
David, it's great to have you
here. And according to your

1807
01:45:57,030 --> 01:46:01,050
report, Tamar Lin, who was the
older of the two brothers was

1808
01:46:01,050 --> 01:46:05,280
hearing voices could have been
seen as schizophrenic. Any

1809
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,370
treatment for that. What did you
learn about why no treatment for

1810
01:46:08,370 --> 01:46:10,290
the type of symptoms that he may
have been shown?

1811
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,620
No treatment? Why no treatment?
Okay.

1812
01:46:14,910 --> 01:46:18,000
The I'm watching Well, let me
Democracy Now before you go on,

1813
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:22,320
I want to play this clip and get
fewer psych beds. Oh, God. And

1814
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:25,140
they go on and on about this.
And I will and I have to make a

1815
01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:28,230
comment after this clip.
Admissions, the war on crazy

1816
01:46:28,230 --> 01:46:28,650
certainly

1817
01:46:28,650 --> 01:46:34,110
hope that the Newtown massacre
causes people to realise that

1818
01:46:34,110 --> 01:46:37,620
for years, we've actually been
going in the wrong direction on

1819
01:46:37,620 --> 01:46:41,820
mental health. The states have
been cutting billions of dollars

1820
01:46:41,850 --> 01:46:48,000
out of mental health budgets.
And so the relatively modest

1821
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:52,050
increases we've seen in the last
year are only beginning to make

1822
01:46:52,050 --> 01:46:58,260
up for that fact. We have 90%
fewer inpatient psychiatric beds

1823
01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:00,240
today than we had in the 1950s.

1824
01:47:03,090 --> 01:47:05,430
We have no place to put the
crazy people.

1825
01:47:06,300 --> 01:47:09,630
The funny thing about this is
unfortunate. There's people old

1826
01:47:09,630 --> 01:47:13,590
enough, such as myself, who
remember this, the whole scene

1827
01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:18,750
as it evolved. It was, I guess
it was began probably before I

1828
01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:21,750
was born. But there was this
movement amongst the Liberals

1829
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:26,130
only to close down these
horrible mental facilities

1830
01:47:26,130 --> 01:47:29,220
because the life there was so
miserable and hard on them, they

1831
01:47:29,220 --> 01:47:32,250
should have had community
servicing or something else. We

1832
01:47:32,250 --> 01:47:35,010
had to shut down these mental
hospitals. And there was a bunch

1833
01:47:35,010 --> 01:47:37,500
of them are in the Bay Area.
There's one up in Napa Sonoma,

1834
01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:40,500
one for the insane. There was Ag
News down in San Jose, there was

1835
01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:42,960
one here and they were moaning
and groaning about this. It was

1836
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,060
all brought to a head by the
movie, One Flew Over the

1837
01:47:45,060 --> 01:47:49,470
Cuckoo's Nest and the book. And
so when Ronald Reagan got into

1838
01:47:49,470 --> 01:47:52,320
office, he was being hounded by
the liberals, you know that

1839
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,840
they're gonna is meant he
basically just shut them all

1840
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:56,910
down and said, You guys, just
what do you want? Fine. And so

1841
01:47:56,910 --> 01:48:00,030
he shut them all down. And then
it's been sliding ever since.

1842
01:48:00,210 --> 01:48:04,380
But now because we can use this
as leverage to get people to

1843
01:48:04,380 --> 01:48:06,750
vote against the Republic
conveniently now, I don't know

1844
01:48:06,750 --> 01:48:08,460
how you make that connection,
because it was the liberals who

1845
01:48:08,460 --> 01:48:11,610
wanted these places shut down
and release the crazies into the

1846
01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:15,450
public. It's actually very, I
have to say, this is one of the

1847
01:48:15,450 --> 01:48:19,860
best turnarounds of, of concept
versus reality I've ever seen.

1848
01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:23,490
Yeah. In other words, it's like,
it's the reality of what's going

1849
01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:25,560
on is like completely misused.

1850
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:31,500
Yeah. Well, I think it's going
one step further. Mental Health,

1851
01:48:31,950 --> 01:48:36,180
and the diagnosis, and treatment
of mental health is determined

1852
01:48:36,180 --> 01:48:42,750
by one main system in the United
States. And you know what this

1853
01:48:42,750 --> 01:48:46,770
is, this is one of my
favourites. It's the DSM, the

1854
01:48:46,830 --> 01:48:51,540
diagnostic and statistical
manual of mental disorders. And

1855
01:48:51,540 --> 01:48:56,190
in the DSM, we have odd which
we've discussed when it first

1856
01:48:56,190 --> 01:48:59,700
came out, it's now published,
Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

1857
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,090
Even the best behave can be
difficult and challenging at

1858
01:49:03,090 --> 01:49:05,970
time. But if your child or teen
has a persistent pattern of

1859
01:49:05,970 --> 01:49:10,470
tantrums, arguing, and angry or
disruptive behaviour towards you

1860
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:14,250
and other authority figures, he
or she may have oppositional

1861
01:49:14,250 --> 01:49:19,230
defiant disorder as they should
as a parent you don't know

1862
01:49:19,230 --> 01:49:22,080
this drug them so well
compliant. Let me

1863
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,810
give you the this is from the
Mayo Clinic. I'm not reading

1864
01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:28,350
from some bullcrap thing Mayo
clinic.com. As a parent, you

1865
01:49:28,350 --> 01:49:30,960
don't have to go it alone and
trying to manage a child with

1866
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,050
Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
Doctors, counsellors and child

1867
01:49:34,050 --> 01:49:37,140
development experts can help
treatment of OD D involves

1868
01:49:37,140 --> 01:49:41,280
therapy training to help build
positive family interactions and

1869
01:49:41,490 --> 01:49:46,440
medications to treat related
mental health conditions. This

1870
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:49,050
is where it's going. And then
once you're drugged once you're

1871
01:49:49,050 --> 01:49:51,150
on the drug, then you're in the
system then they have your

1872
01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:55,590
information. And then you then
you can't do a lot of things

1873
01:49:55,590 --> 01:50:00,360
like drive a car or be around
children and other children. Be

1874
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:05,610
in civil servant gun. Can't buy
a gun, your child. So here's

1875
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,970
some of the symptoms just so you
know your child and by the way

1876
01:50:08,970 --> 01:50:12,600
it says child now this could
also be your neighbour, your

1877
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,880
brother, your sister, your
father, your mother, that's just

1878
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,640
a matter of definition, maybe
displaying displaying signs of

1879
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:22,110
odd instead of normal moodiness
if the behaviours are persistent

1880
01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:25,980
if the behaviour is lasted at
least six months, about six

1881
01:50:25,980 --> 01:50:30,570
years on the show, are clearly
disruptive to the family and

1882
01:50:30,570 --> 01:50:34,920
home or school environment. The
following behaviours are

1883
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,560
associated with odd John you
ready?

1884
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:42,300
I'm ready, I'm ready negativity
what?

1885
01:50:43,770 --> 01:50:52,110
Defiance Okay, disobedience and
hostility directed towards

1886
01:50:52,140 --> 01:50:56,790
authority figures. Well, there
you have it. And here are some

1887
01:50:56,790 --> 01:51:01,290
of the behaviours are show Yes.
These behaviours might cause

1888
01:51:01,290 --> 01:51:03,960
your child to regularly and
consistently so this is what

1889
01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:09,180
this is how it may surface have
temper tantrums. Be

1890
01:51:09,180 --> 01:51:13,230
argumentative with adults,
refuse to comply with adult

1891
01:51:13,230 --> 01:51:22,110
requests or rules, annoy, annoy
other people deliberately. blame

1892
01:51:22,110 --> 01:51:25,830
others for mistakes or
misbehaviour act touchy and

1893
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:30,570
easily annoyed, feel angered and
resentment be spiteful or

1894
01:51:30,570 --> 01:51:35,130
vindictive, act aggressively
towards peers have difficulty

1895
01:51:35,130 --> 01:51:39,030
maintaining friendships have
academic problems and feel a

1896
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:45,180
lack of self esteem. I mean,
this is from the manual that

1897
01:51:45,180 --> 01:51:50,730
determines if you have a mental
health issue. So go ahead and

1898
01:51:50,730 --> 01:51:53,880
laugh and let it go and don't
say anything because they're

1899
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:55,470
coming for you eventually.

1900
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:03,150
And for everybody, yeah. You get
rid of those personality

1901
01:52:03,480 --> 01:52:06,750
characteristics from the general
population. You've got problem

1902
01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:09,330
Nobody's life. No, it's

1903
01:52:09,630 --> 01:52:12,780
pretty much includes most people
that think for themselves and

1904
01:52:12,780 --> 01:52:15,870
can do now as you stand up and
say that's bull crap. Yep. A

1905
01:52:15,870 --> 01:52:17,640
year that puts you in that
category.

1906
01:52:18,180 --> 01:52:20,820
The the ultimate answer is
lithotomy.

1907
01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:23,130
Well, there's that,

1908
01:52:24,330 --> 01:52:27,840
too. Did you? Did you see? This
clip has been going around?

1909
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:33,150
Well, Barbara Walters. What she
said about Obama? No, this is a

1910
01:52:33,150 --> 01:52:36,090
great clip. Just a little it
says what do you call it thing

1911
01:52:36,090 --> 01:52:39,750
they serve in between to clean
cleanse your palate? Entre mom

1912
01:52:39,810 --> 01:52:43,500
and Ultramel lunch amount of
Barbara Walters about? Of course

1913
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:47,250
she did her. Oh, hold on a
second. What is this people?

1914
01:52:51,420 --> 01:52:55,170
Well, he's gone. Let's that's
the old Nokia E 71. That I will

1915
01:52:55,170 --> 01:52:57,390
have laying around. That's the
only phone I possess.

1916
01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:00,480
Oh, is that what you're using
now? Yeah. Well, it doesn't have

1917
01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:01,230
GPS

1918
01:53:01,500 --> 01:53:07,620
hasn't as pretty much nothing.
Got keyboard 121212. I thought I

1919
01:53:07,620 --> 01:53:10,890
heard a weird phone. Yeah, it
has a real keyboard. Yeah, so

1920
01:53:10,890 --> 01:53:15,300
she has her most interesting
people of 2013. Of course, it

1921
01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:18,450
was a Hillary Clinton Gee, who
would have expected that. But

1922
01:53:18,450 --> 01:53:22,230
here's what she said on CNN. I
think it was Penn boring. She

1923
01:53:22,230 --> 01:53:24,450
said what she said about Obama
was kind of funny.

1924
01:53:24,480 --> 01:53:27,960
Well, you've touched on it to a
degree he made so many promises.

1925
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,380
We thought that he was going to
be I shouldn't say this at

1926
01:53:31,380 --> 01:53:34,950
Christmas time, but the next
Messiah and the whole Obamacare

1927
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:38,310
or whatever you want to call
that a fundamental, affordable.

1928
01:53:39,150 --> 01:53:42,060
She doesn't double one. I gotta
play that again. She says

1929
01:53:42,090 --> 01:53:45,060
Obamacare or a formidable
whatever you want to call it.

1930
01:53:45,060 --> 01:53:46,350
She can't even say affordable.

1931
01:53:46,500 --> 01:53:47,610
I think she's drinkable.

1932
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:49,500
I think she's drunk. And then
she doesn't even know how many

1933
01:53:49,500 --> 01:53:51,600
years he has left. I think she's
gone senile

1934
01:53:51,630 --> 01:53:55,320
pharmacists, we thought that he
was going to be, I shouldn't say

1935
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,500
this Christmas time, but the
next Messiah and the whole

1936
01:53:58,500 --> 01:54:01,200
Obamacare or whatever you want
to call that a formidable,

1937
01:54:01,830 --> 01:54:05,580
affordable health that just
hasn't worked for him. And he

1938
01:54:05,580 --> 01:54:09,240
stumbled around on it. And
people feel very disappointed

1939
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:12,570
because they expected more. It's
very difficult when the

1940
01:54:12,570 --> 01:54:16,470
expectations for you a very
high, you're almost better off

1941
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:19,230
when they're low. And then they
rise and rise as well. Very

1942
01:54:19,230 --> 01:54:21,900
high. And they've dropped but
you know, you still have several

1943
01:54:21,900 --> 01:54:25,860
years to go. I wouldn't say at
three years, my peers and there

1944
01:54:25,860 --> 01:54:27,450
will be a lot of changes and
when

1945
01:54:27,480 --> 01:54:30,960
you're an idiot. What does you
have three more years appears.

1946
01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:36,840
Hmm. blind leading the blind
brother. I know though that was

1947
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:37,620
your entre? Mo

1948
01:54:38,490 --> 01:54:43,440
Yeah, that was cute. I probably
have something like that.

1949
01:54:45,810 --> 01:54:48,150
All right. I'm just holding back
and waiting. Okay,

1950
01:54:48,150 --> 01:54:49,830
well, if you want to play an
instrument for me play

1951
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:52,650
Stonehenge. I have elicited a
pet peeve.

1952
01:54:52,710 --> 01:54:56,070
Okay. Oops, oops. Stonehedge
tried to get away

1953
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:59,280
from me. The droids of Salisbury
Plain have voiced their

1954
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,890
displeasure. or they're
comparing a new display of

1955
01:55:01,890 --> 01:55:06,210
Neolithic Neolithic remains and
Stonehenge to a Victorian peep

1956
01:55:06,210 --> 01:55:09,450
show. one of Europe's oldest and
most mysterious manmade

1957
01:55:09,450 --> 01:55:13,500
attractions getting a 27 million
pounds makeover that includes a

1958
01:55:13,500 --> 01:55:16,860
21st century state of the art
Visitor Centre.

1959
01:55:18,630 --> 01:55:19,530
Can you imagine?

1960
01:55:20,130 --> 01:55:25,080
You know, I went to Stonehenge.
I'll be real quick. I went to

1961
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:29,220
Stonehenge as a kid. And there
was no gate around you say

1962
01:55:29,250 --> 01:55:33,570
this what I'm gonna bitch about
All right, go. So I went 1973.

1963
01:55:33,570 --> 01:55:37,470
So it's exactly 40 years ago, I
went to Stonehenge. And I sat on

1964
01:55:37,470 --> 01:55:41,400
the stones. Yeah. And there was
nobody there. There was like, I

1965
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,370
was with someone. And there was
I was walking around with and

1966
01:55:44,370 --> 01:55:49,890
there was a bunch of cows
nearby. And there was nothing

1967
01:55:49,890 --> 01:55:52,170
there was there wasn't anything
you had to go visit. Hey, look

1968
01:55:52,170 --> 01:55:54,060
at this cool, you know, and
there was I think there was a

1969
01:55:54,060 --> 01:55:57,450
small shop that sold little
stone hinges or something and

1970
01:55:57,450 --> 01:56:00,930
they were closed. It was it was
like you walk up didn't kick the

1971
01:56:00,930 --> 01:56:03,210
stones or whatever you want. So
that gets some hooligans came

1972
01:56:03,210 --> 01:56:05,610
along and painted the damn
things. And then so they fenced

1973
01:56:05,610 --> 01:56:08,070
it off, and now they're making
it. And the last time I went was

1974
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:12,360
with the kids. The place was
packed. Yeah. There's like 200

1975
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:13,170
people there.

1976
01:56:13,410 --> 01:56:16,470
Yeah, I went, my dad ruined it.
My dad took me in it was

1977
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:22,140
probably 78. He took me on a
trip to to London, which was not

1978
01:56:22,140 --> 01:56:28,230
a good trip for a number of
reasons. Anyway, well. So then

1979
01:56:28,230 --> 01:56:32,280
we went to we went to whoops. We
went to Stonehenge. And you're

1980
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,920
right, it was, I think there
were a couple of Druids walking

1981
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:38,100
around. Like who was just some
weird guys, don't, don't, don't

1982
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:40,380
worry about and then people are
kind of spaced out walking

1983
01:56:40,380 --> 01:56:42,930
around. But you could sit on
everything you can lean against

1984
01:56:42,930 --> 01:56:45,270
it. You took the picture, you
know, hey, here I am and

1985
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:50,190
Stonehenge. And and then it got
roped off. And now they have a

1986
01:56:50,190 --> 01:56:56,640
$23 million pound Visitor
Centre. Yeah. It's like, it's

1987
01:56:56,640 --> 01:57:01,710
like the time when I did the
documentary in Thailand. And it

1988
01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:03,750
was supposed to be this rough
guide thing. Yeah, there's all

1989
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:07,470
kinds of weird stuff you do like
drink Cobra blood and then go up

1990
01:57:07,470 --> 01:57:11,370
to the Burmese border and the
the Golden Triangle and you

1991
01:57:11,370 --> 01:57:16,560
know, chew on leaves and opions
now it was all great. And then

1992
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,680
well, let's let's go see the
long necks like Oh, okay. And we

1993
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,470
drive for hours and yeah, I was
like wow, this is really where

1994
01:57:23,550 --> 01:57:27,990
people only few people have seen
the long necks of Thailand and

1995
01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:31,050
then there's a big sign with
like a finger pointing long neck

1996
01:57:31,050 --> 01:57:37,740
this way. Like what was really
buying into it. And we've made

1997
01:57:37,740 --> 01:57:40,500
the other Oh, this is very few
Westerners have been at the

1998
01:57:40,500 --> 01:57:43,800
minute you get there. They're
all like give me bought bought

1999
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,170
bought bought that's all they
could say bought bought bought

2000
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,980
they want money to take a
picture with a long neck. It's

2001
01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:52,740
all it's all the whole thing is
one big Disneyland there's not

2002
01:57:52,740 --> 01:57:55,800
much unbelievable. There's not
much originality left is there.

2003
01:57:56,910 --> 01:57:59,100
Speaking of bought, bought
bought, I'm gonna

2004
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:02,790
show my mood but Jonah to no
agenda. Imagine all the people

2005
01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:04,830
who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd be fun

2006
01:58:12,660 --> 01:58:14,460
then we just do a segment a
minute ago.

2007
01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:16,500
Well, you know, we're

2008
01:58:17,820 --> 01:58:20,610
not gonna take very long exam
Yale sounds good. We got some

2009
01:58:20,610 --> 01:58:24,900
people to think Yale is Toski
and Viana Hello serve John and

2010
01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:27,900
serve Adam as a French Canadian
American expat in Europe I'm

2011
01:58:27,900 --> 01:58:30,540
doing nothing but hitting slaves
in the mouth. However, it seems

2012
01:58:30,540 --> 01:58:32,760
to be too many people are
focusing on problems in America

2013
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,400
and not paying attention to the
robber barons in Brussels. Well,

2014
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,890
we try keep it up long lived the
value of your value model that's

2015
01:58:37,890 --> 01:58:40,260
interesting. It's $133 from Yale
by the way thank

2016
01:58:40,260 --> 01:58:44,910
you yo. Now before we get to the
$100 This is why I wanted to

2017
01:58:44,910 --> 01:58:49,860
take our time for this you we
have a Make It Rain a three show

2018
01:58:49,860 --> 01:58:53,760
make do which would be for the
111 11 don't yeah, I'm gonna

2019
01:58:53,790 --> 01:58:55,860
make it rain and I want

2020
01:58:55,860 --> 01:59:01,470
to add I'll do that bit but I
want to add that we have names

2021
01:59:01,650 --> 01:59:05,370
that I have backed up or
Kimberly Amber, Chris the dude

2022
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:10,050
Leo Angular Merkel and Hillary
Clinton there was none today no

2023
01:59:10,290 --> 01:59:12,930
and I if there's any I miss will
bring him up the next time but

2024
01:59:12,930 --> 01:59:14,460
as far as I know, this is the
list

2025
01:59:20,460 --> 01:59:23,820
of E. coli were pretty ladies to
play with all the big spenders

2026
01:59:23,820 --> 01:59:27,300
out there. Emmys anyone with a
shirt and shoes pants are

2027
01:59:27,300 --> 01:59:31,290
optional. Uh, no touching. Round
of applause though. Welcome to

2028
01:59:31,290 --> 01:59:33,720
the stage. Kimberly this little
lady just got back from a tour

2029
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:37,710
of duty and she's looking for I
EDS that means no IOUs give it

2030
01:59:37,710 --> 01:59:42,000
up for Kimberly. They took the
chance to get it for Amber

2031
01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:45,180
bombshells look for Santa Claus
so she could show him her

2032
01:59:45,180 --> 01:59:49,920
cookies and Mel Amber's latest
night so agenda lounge. Give

2033
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:53,190
some hand clapping love for
Chris the dude and Leo on the

2034
01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:57,690
main stage was a man on man
action. Guys, close your eyes

2035
01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:02,340
Presidio. Oh to stage one five
champion rooms where Hillary and

2036
02:00:02,340 --> 02:00:06,810
Angola will pop your corks
dances to half price lap dances

2037
02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:09,210
are half price with a bottle of
bubbly and don't forget to tip

2038
02:00:09,210 --> 02:00:12,660
your waitress bring him on
Hillary and angle as stage one

2039
02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:14,430
by get over there

2040
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:25,830
great script. Good script. Very
well done.

2041
02:00:27,090 --> 02:00:28,740
Well, you know what's going to
happen that was so good that

2042
02:00:28,740 --> 02:00:29,640
people will want more of

2043
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:34,320
it. Well, I don't see any
evidence of that. Oh, wow,

2044
02:00:34,350 --> 02:00:36,180
your your limiter. really hit it
though.

2045
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:40,380
I would hope okay, it's all
right. Think back to normal.

2046
02:00:40,410 --> 02:00:43,950
Yeah, it comes back slowly for
me to click this button. Wait,

2047
02:00:43,950 --> 02:00:46,080
don't don't unclick it now. It's
fine. Don't worry about it. It's

2048
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:50,040
fine. With that and click
button. Chris Potter, Elmira,

2049
02:00:50,100 --> 02:00:54,660
Ontario $100. And no comment.
Eric Allen in Woodland Hills.

2050
02:00:54,660 --> 02:00:59,250
saqa sevens. Thanks. Please
thank the EAA in Woodland Hills

2051
02:00:59,250 --> 02:01:01,290
and it's his birthday. We got a
birthday lined up there.

2052
02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:06,900
Christine Zachman. Lost wages,
Nevada Sokka. sevens. Eric

2053
02:01:06,900 --> 02:01:10,050
Schmidt? Not the Eric Schmidt
maybe. But this one's in

2054
02:01:10,050 --> 02:01:15,000
Frankfurt, Germany Deutschland
7777. It's been wanting to

2055
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,580
contribute for a while. Thanks
for getting on board. Robert

2056
02:01:17,580 --> 02:01:26,010
Mendez Lawrence 69. Four we have
Lawrence, Roberto Mendez. Steven

2057
02:01:26,010 --> 02:01:27,060
Pels. mockers

2058
02:01:27,090 --> 02:01:33,300
Hey, hold on a second. That's I
didn't realise that didn't

2059
02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:34,560
realise he was down there.

2060
02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:45,120
Please be outstanding. The only
guy with

2061
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:48,630
his own jingle. The only guy
with his own jingle. Catch up

2062
02:01:48,630 --> 02:01:53,760
people. Christopher grey Grand
Blanc, Michigan and finally on

2063
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,880
the 6969 Anonymous, another
Michigan Ian.

2064
02:01:57,210 --> 02:01:59,580
All right. That's not enough for
a jingle. This thing is played

2065
02:01:59,580 --> 02:02:01,530
out I think from the EU

2066
02:02:01,530 --> 02:02:06,120
6772 Anonymous sir Scott in
Herndon, Virginia. 66 66x. Six

2067
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:10,110
is Steven Nelson in wheat Ridge,
Colorado double nickels on the

2068
02:02:10,110 --> 02:02:18,210
dime Lucas zoo, Xeros Ziwa 2394.
And then 50 bucks each from

2069
02:02:18,210 --> 02:02:22,620
David drew David Humphries. I'm
sorry in Dallas, Texas. Michael

2070
02:02:22,620 --> 02:02:26,220
gates in Colorado Springs ANDREW
HARRISON in Gravenhurst,

2071
02:02:26,250 --> 02:02:34,110
Ontario, Ronald sedang yo in
Riverview, Florida. Josh Josh

2072
02:02:34,110 --> 02:02:38,490
McDonald in Brunswick Victoria,
Australia. We need more Aussies.

2073
02:02:39,300 --> 02:02:43,710
Kyle Bauer in Wooster, Ohio our
regular and finally Phillip

2074
02:02:43,710 --> 02:02:50,400
Neeson and other regular from
West pool powe's UK that'll be

2075
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:53,850
our donors list for today show
575 When they get very

2076
02:02:53,850 --> 02:02:57,930
shortlist, shortlist want to
thank them and everyone else who

2077
02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:00,150
contributed to the show in any
way shape or form.

2078
02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:04,410
It's interesting you kind of
stayed in your in the cadence of

2079
02:03:04,410 --> 02:03:09,630
the the stripper announcer guy I
did. Yeah. Works for me

2080
02:03:10,170 --> 02:03:13,290
and moves it along. It's got
it's a cadence said that a

2081
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:14,400
workable cadence.

2082
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,060
I'd like the Leo and what was
that guy on damn Garrison the

2083
02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:27,570
dude Chris the dude guy on guy
action. Boy, all right, well, I

2084
02:03:27,570 --> 02:03:31,950
think we can do better. I don't
know but I see a lot of value

2085
02:03:31,950 --> 02:03:34,950
being created here. We've This
is the only thing we want you to

2086
02:03:35,220 --> 02:03:37,170
show is 576

2087
02:03:38,460 --> 02:03:41,730
Okay, I guess there's not much
there but there's a six a five,

2088
02:03:41,730 --> 02:03:42,510
six and seven.

2089
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:46,500
There's a lot of interesting
palindromes coming up in 2014

2090
02:03:48,660 --> 02:03:53,040
Yeah, there's the alive the
great we're going and you got a

2091
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:57,720
sickness you have an illness
that needs parently treatment. I

2092
02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:59,400
don't know what car you I
wouldn't go to the doc

2093
02:03:59,430 --> 02:04:01,830
I I'm afraid I think I'll come
back we know what they're gonna

2094
02:04:01,830 --> 02:04:05,790
do is like penicillin. And then
just horrible. Because the only

2095
02:04:05,790 --> 02:04:08,400
thing that can really prescribe
I think is penicillin. What else

2096
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:12,810
you're gonna do? But okay, all
right, I'm here. Thank you all

2097
02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:16,110
very much. Those of you who have
supported the programme with

2098
02:04:16,110 --> 02:04:19,560
your donations, those you under
$50 mainly to remain anonymous

2099
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,900
or if you're on the 33
programmes, these are people do

2100
02:04:21,900 --> 02:04:25,560
build up to knighthoods and it
does really happen. This these

2101
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:29,070
these knighthoods do come
through our 1111 or 1212 We

2102
02:04:29,070 --> 02:04:33,870
still have time today isn't
really we have no no a right in

2103
02:04:33,870 --> 02:04:36,030
fact, we only have one birthday
but I'll still do the

2104
02:04:36,030 --> 02:04:38,160
jingles@borah.org

2105
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,050
slash and a

2106
02:04:43,830 --> 02:04:45,090
that's how we roll.

2107
02:04:46,890 --> 02:04:49,800
And the only one on the list
today is Eric Allen celebrating

2108
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,230
tomorrow. Happy birthday from
your friends here the best

2109
02:04:52,230 --> 02:04:59,700
podcast in the universe. Said
boom Oh make it rain. Boom done.

2110
02:05:01,350 --> 02:05:07,800
Oh John, I got this great from
this great page from popular

2111
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:13,950
technology dotnet I created a
shortcut go to ice age.curry.com

2112
02:05:17,250 --> 02:05:21,780
Ice age.curry.com And then I
will play the video that's on

2113
02:05:21,780 --> 02:05:25,590
that page. This is essentially a
link from the 70s and it shows

2114
02:05:25,590 --> 02:05:29,820
starts off right there with the
Time magazine cover the big

2115
02:05:29,820 --> 02:05:33,570
phrase meagre time time or do
you have the page?

2116
02:05:34,110 --> 02:05:34,980
I'm on it now.

2117
02:05:35,010 --> 02:05:37,740
Yeah, you see that? You see the
BIG TIME magazine there?

2118
02:05:39,150 --> 02:05:40,320
Scroll down Hold on

2119
02:05:40,349 --> 02:05:43,409
No it's at the top what if the
scroll down at the top?

2120
02:05:43,740 --> 02:05:45,690
I don't have it add it's just a
movie

2121
02:05:48,420 --> 02:05:49,920
you don't have a whole bunch of
links.

2122
02:05:50,220 --> 02:05:53,820
Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch of
links at the top is a video with

2123
02:05:53,820 --> 02:05:55,560
a says it in search of the
coming Ice Age.

2124
02:05:55,590 --> 02:05:57,840
Oh, this shouldn't be well,
maybe it hasn't loaded on your

2125
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:01,470
system or something above that
is the Time magazine cover but

2126
02:06:01,470 --> 02:06:04,620
here is here's the piece of that
video. They took that down looks

2127
02:06:04,620 --> 02:06:08,190
like might be well no it loaded
for me. This Oh, there it is.

2128
02:06:08,220 --> 02:06:11,520
Okay, cropped up when I
refreshed. This is Leonard Nimoy

2129
02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:17,220
better known as Mr. Spock from
Star Trek. Doing a voiceover for

2130
02:06:17,220 --> 02:06:21,360
the coming Ice Age is from 1978
and you can just replace

2131
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:25,890
everything you hear with. Well,
let's see Al Gore distinct the

2132
02:06:25,890 --> 02:06:29,760
voice Al Gore and think global
warming when they say global

2133
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:32,700
cooling. This is 1978 Not even
that long ago.

2134
02:06:36,990 --> 02:06:41,190
In 1977, the worst winter in a
centuries bucked the United

2135
02:06:41,190 --> 02:06:41,700
States

2136
02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:48,030
rip the Midwest

2137
02:06:48,030 --> 02:06:53,490
for weeks on. Blizzards
paralysed cities of the

2138
02:06:53,490 --> 02:06:58,020
Northeast. One desperate night
in Buffalo, eight people froze

2139
02:06:58,020 --> 02:07:02,280
to death in their own cars. That
personnel was on the road at

2140
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:02,640
night.

2141
02:07:03,150 --> 02:07:06,990
Traffic just absolutely stacked.
It was afraid of being stuck in

2142
02:07:06,990 --> 02:07:11,940
the car all night long, with the
cold and the wind running out of

2143
02:07:11,940 --> 02:07:17,490
gas. And then what? I think that
if we had to go through a real

2144
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:21,660
bad winter, just like we just
went through. I think we'd have

2145
02:07:21,660 --> 02:07:23,550
to think about moving someplace
else.

2146
02:07:24,570 --> 02:07:29,430
Move where the brutal buffalo
winter might become common all

2147
02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:33,870
over the United States. climate
experts believe the next Ice Age

2148
02:07:33,900 --> 02:07:37,920
is on its way. According to
recent evidence, it could come

2149
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:44,130
sooner than anyone had expected.
And weather stations in the Far

2150
02:07:44,130 --> 02:07:49,950
North. Temperatures have been
dropping for 30 years. Long

2151
02:07:49,980 --> 02:07:55,380
three of summer ice are now
blocked year round. According to

2152
02:07:55,380 --> 02:07:59,730
some climatologists within a
lifetime, we might be living in

2153
02:07:59,730 --> 02:08:00,840
the next Ice Age.

2154
02:08:03,900 --> 02:08:09,570
Exactly the same propaganda
that's going on today. Exactly.

2155
02:08:09,690 --> 02:08:11,940
That would have gotten clip in
the day. Right. I

2156
02:08:11,940 --> 02:08:15,690
can't accept it. It is just a
clip.

2157
02:08:15,690 --> 02:08:18,180
You've got three clips today
that we're all worthy.

2158
02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:20,850
Yeah, but it's it's

2159
02:08:21,509 --> 02:08:25,049
worded that that is this good.
Fine on this website. Yeah, this

2160
02:08:25,050 --> 02:08:28,770
page is great. It has just it's
got a million links. Yeah, about

2161
02:08:28,770 --> 02:08:32,730
the Ice Age from 1970. All the
way through 91 or two links.

2162
02:08:32,730 --> 02:08:36,750
Were just like 100. And look at
the look at the publications. LA

2163
02:08:36,750 --> 02:08:41,160
Times is mankind manufacturing a
new ice age for itself? Let's

2164
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:44,580
see St. Petersburg Times
pollution called Ice Age threat.

2165
02:08:45,150 --> 02:08:49,560
Dirt will bring new ice age, Ice
Age, refugee dies, underground

2166
02:08:49,740 --> 02:08:53,790
pollution might lead to another
ice age. Air pollution may cause

2167
02:08:53,790 --> 02:08:57,840
ice age, there's a new ice age
coming. Ice Age begins a new

2168
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:02,220
assault in the north. This is
great. Time Magazine science,

2169
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:06,750
another ice age. Isn't this
fantastic?

2170
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:09,060
This is a great collection.
Yeah, it's

2171
02:09:09,060 --> 02:09:11,340
really, really good. And this is
this is what you need to hit

2172
02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:15,540
people in the mouth with climate
changes called ominous New York

2173
02:09:15,540 --> 02:09:19,650
Times. Let's look at that one.
Let's see if that one still

2174
02:09:19,650 --> 02:09:22,500
exists. Do you have to pay for
this if you go to select Santa

2175
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:27,180
gotta pay for it. Climate change
is called ominous. scientists

2176
02:09:27,180 --> 02:09:30,570
warned predictions must be made
precise to avoid catastrophe.

2177
02:09:31,980 --> 02:09:34,410
changes in the Earth's climate
are inevitable and mankind must

2178
02:09:34,410 --> 02:09:36,360
learn to predict these
variations to avoid potential

2179
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:38,940
catastrophe. A group of
prominent scientists has

2180
02:09:38,940 --> 02:09:42,180
concluded after two years study
well I could do that voice.

2181
02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:47,070
You know she had Kaltenborn or
whatever his name was.

2182
02:09:47,190 --> 02:09:49,710
Okay, let me try the Chicago
Tribune once you've I can do

2183
02:09:49,710 --> 02:09:53,730
that. Oh, you have to buy all
these man. Dice each come with

2184
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,550
the system that controls our
climate and you have to buy the

2185
02:09:56,550 --> 02:10:00,630
rest of the article. The end of
the world is to be heralded by a

2186
02:10:00,630 --> 02:10:03,750
summer that is no summer the
bitter cold persists and the sun

2187
02:10:03,750 --> 02:10:04,110
giving you

2188
02:10:05,549 --> 02:10:09,719
yeah if you if you if you tilt
your voice to having kind of

2189
02:10:09,719 --> 02:10:12,929
like some MMA is something you
need to like mispronounce things

2190
02:10:12,929 --> 02:10:16,349
a certain way. So it's very
sanitised to be stiffer you're

2191
02:10:16,349 --> 02:10:17,879
not stiff and different. Okay,

2192
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:25,440
let me see. Just gonna bring up
a new one right around the

2193
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:30,720
corner Ice Age predicted.
Cambridge, Massachusetts UPI. A

2194
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:34,830
scientist predicts a little ice
age could begin in about 135

2195
02:10:34,830 --> 02:10:38,010
years. Massachusetts Institute
of Technology meteorologist

2196
02:10:38,010 --> 02:10:40,530
heard C Willett in an article in
the ministry of Technology

2197
02:10:40,530 --> 02:10:43,440
Review predicts temperatures
generally will get lower in the

2198
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,680
coming years. He said this could
lead to a period when glaciers

2199
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:50,610
begin building up a little ice
age. How's that?

2200
02:10:50,940 --> 02:10:53,580
It's better I like it. You can
use it so this is

2201
02:10:53,580 --> 02:10:55,770
great when you when you look at
all these articles and maybe you

2202
02:10:55,770 --> 02:10:57,510
should print these out and take
them into school.

2203
02:10:58,230 --> 02:11:03,450
Take him into school kids new ah
WHAT IS THIS TIME magazine they

2204
02:11:03,450 --> 02:11:04,470
lying to us

2205
02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:09,000
Time magazine 1977 The Big
Freeze

2206
02:11:10,770 --> 02:11:13,140
Yeah, and the main one that's
been floating around that we've

2207
02:11:13,140 --> 02:11:15,900
had on the show before the Main
articles in Newsweek so

2208
02:11:15,900 --> 02:11:19,980
everybody was all in on this.
Yeah, Johnny we're all in for

2209
02:11:19,980 --> 02:11:23,430
Look how long it was all in for
like eight years no 1010

2210
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:26,190
years out through from 70
through 79

2211
02:11:26,730 --> 02:11:29,700
Well okay 10 Right. When was
today oh there's

2212
02:11:29,700 --> 02:11:31,410
more videos already been seen
this the weather

2213
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:36,570
decade a decade of frightening
the public right to November 14

2214
02:11:36,570 --> 02:11:39,270
Seven united as a matter of
fact, here's the new ice age

2215
02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:40,500
almost upon us.

2216
02:11:40,530 --> 02:11:43,860
Here's the BBC is 90 ready to
freeze of

2217
02:11:43,860 --> 02:11:46,470
Spokane Daily Chronicle 1979

2218
02:11:46,740 --> 02:11:51,150
The BBC is 1974 documentary The
weather machine. Let's listen to

2219
02:11:51,150 --> 02:11:51,390
this.

2220
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:57,300
There's the ever present threat
of a Big Freeze will a new ice

2221
02:11:57,300 --> 02:12:00,840
age claim our lands and bury our
northern cities. It's bedded

2222
02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:03,810
Manhattan island before when
Greg glaciers half a mile thick

2223
02:12:03,810 --> 02:12:05,970
filled the Valley of New York's
Hudson River.

2224
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:10,980
The warm periods are much
shorter than we believe

2225
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:18,390
originally. They are something
around 10,000 years long. And

2226
02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:23,610
I'm sorry to say that the one we
are living in now has just

2227
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:28,710
passed it's 10,000 Tears
bursting what of course means

2228
02:12:29,310 --> 02:12:32,880
that the ACH is due now anytime

2229
02:12:32,969 --> 02:12:38,309
anytime. Oh and reminder as of
January 1 Because of all this

2230
02:12:38,309 --> 02:12:42,839
global warming climate change
bullshit. New Light Bulb bans

2231
02:12:42,839 --> 02:12:47,609
kick in your 40 and 60 watt
bulbs are going away convert to

2232
02:12:47,609 --> 02:12:54,089
LEDs everybody or worse those
Mercury RF emitting pieces of

2233
02:12:54,089 --> 02:12:54,629
crap

2234
02:12:54,660 --> 02:12:58,350
yeah that go they make a bunch
of racket give you one I have

2235
02:12:58,350 --> 02:13:01,020
one of those things in the
dining room and you turn it on

2236
02:13:01,020 --> 02:13:02,610
it sounds like a siren song Why
do

2237
02:13:02,610 --> 02:13:05,100
you even have it in your house?
Take it out.

2238
02:13:08,340 --> 02:13:11,070
I like it because I can barely
hear but but everyone else in

2239
02:13:11,070 --> 02:13:14,580
the group they it's DoD or
whatever it's called. I found

2240
02:13:14,580 --> 02:13:16,830
that I'm annoying. I'm purposely
annoying people.

2241
02:13:16,980 --> 02:13:21,600
I found this other outfit called
Climate next what is it called

2242
02:13:21,600 --> 02:13:27,960
Climate nexus.org climate you
should go to climate nexus.org

2243
02:13:28,500 --> 02:13:36,900
And these are the climate change
propagandists under the What is

2244
02:13:36,900 --> 02:13:39,720
this is just interesting. So
this is how they do it. What we

2245
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:44,340
do we strive to tell the climate
story in new, innovative

2246
02:13:44,370 --> 02:13:48,300
innovative ways that's how the
British innovative ways. A few

2247
02:13:48,300 --> 02:13:52,170
examples of our work Superstorm
Sandy the idea this is a pitch

2248
02:13:52,170 --> 02:13:55,140
this website Superstorm Sandy
approached the Mid Atlantic

2249
02:13:55,140 --> 02:13:57,630
October 26 2012. Polling
indicates that making

2250
02:13:57,630 --> 02:14:00,360
connections to extreme weather
helps people to understand the

2251
02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:03,690
significance of climate change
and its associated impacts in

2252
02:14:03,690 --> 02:14:06,570
line with this research climate
Nexus identified the storm as a

2253
02:14:06,570 --> 02:14:12,420
potential messaging focus Yeah,
you shouldn't this is this

2254
02:14:12,420 --> 02:14:14,790
should be us were dumb.

2255
02:14:15,180 --> 02:14:17,640
We could be making a lot more
money doing this sort of

2256
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:20,340
propaganda bull crap and just
suckering the public into

2257
02:14:20,340 --> 02:14:23,400
believing anything we want them
to believe we are so dumb then

2258
02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:25,410
didn't actually exposing this
stuff.

2259
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:28,650
Climate Nexus distributed
background information on the

2260
02:14:28,650 --> 02:14:31,800
hurricane and its relationship
to climate change to hundreds of

2261
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:35,190
environmental reporters,
editorial writers, Op Ed page

2262
02:14:35,190 --> 02:14:38,490
editors and meteorologists.
During the storm and its

2263
02:14:38,490 --> 02:14:41,370
aftermath, we put journalists in
contact with our expert

2264
02:14:41,370 --> 02:14:45,510
partners. shills, Dr. Kerry
Emanuel, Dr. Kevin Trenberth,

2265
02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:48,630
Dr. Michael Oppenheimer, Dr. J.
Marshall Shepherd, Dr. Anthony

2266
02:14:48,630 --> 02:14:52,290
lizer. With Dr. Jennifer Francis
and Jeff masters. Our efforts

2267
02:14:52,290 --> 02:14:54,990
helped secure dozens of
interviews for these experts on

2268
02:14:54,990 --> 02:14:57,900
the storm and climate change,
which generated hundreds of

2269
02:14:57,900 --> 02:15:01,380
stories in the mainstream media.
This is how it works.

2270
02:15:01,799 --> 02:15:06,119
Now this is exactly how it
works. Our goal is to find the

2271
02:15:06,119 --> 02:15:08,309
sources that are pulling this
stuff

2272
02:15:08,339 --> 02:15:10,949
and to replicate them and get
rich. Well,

2273
02:15:11,399 --> 02:15:12,989
yeah, ideally

2274
02:15:13,379 --> 02:15:18,659
wow the PDF they have superstore
This is great oh my god these

2275
02:15:18,659 --> 02:15:23,819
guys are good. press coverage
includes AP Bloomberg times Los

2276
02:15:23,819 --> 02:15:24,419
Angeles Times.

2277
02:15:24,839 --> 02:15:27,599
You could change that that
moniker from press coverage to

2278
02:15:27,599 --> 02:15:31,559
suckers. Yeah, real suckers
include the AP Bloomberg, New

2279
02:15:31,559 --> 02:15:34,289
York Times Los Angeles Times
Washington Post, The Guardian of

2280
02:15:34,289 --> 02:15:37,169
course, the Boston Globe time
the Atlantic Journal

2281
02:15:37,169 --> 02:15:42,209
Constitution politico hardball
with Chris Matthews, CNN, NPR,

2282
02:15:42,209 --> 02:15:46,379
the NBC and PBS Newshour that is
the that is theirs mainstream

2283
02:15:46,379 --> 02:15:47,429
media in a nutshell

2284
02:15:47,459 --> 02:15:52,049
and now on Reddit science forum.
If you are a climate change

2285
02:15:52,049 --> 02:15:56,249
sceptic your comments will be
banned from the Reddit

2286
02:15:59,130 --> 02:16:03,060
well, your comments if you're a
climate change sceptic are

2287
02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:08,520
banned from Wikipedia Yeah,
there you go. All right. Well

2288
02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:13,470
known problem and we've been had
we've good catch is a good one

2289
02:16:13,500 --> 02:16:17,910
we've been had. I can't bad so a
producer he pointed out to me. I

2290
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:22,710
can't believe how dumb I am in
this case. This this Chinese

2291
02:16:22,710 --> 02:16:27,720
Moon Landing so called Moon
Landing, alleged moon landing.

2292
02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:32,610
It's so obvious it's fake their
gift they handed it to us on a

2293
02:16:32,610 --> 02:16:39,570
silver platter and I didn't see
it. Here is the headline. Jade

2294
02:16:39,570 --> 02:16:47,070
Rabbit rover basks in lunar Bay
of Rainbows. Greeley, the Jade

2295
02:16:47,070 --> 02:16:50,400
Rabbit is a well known sex toy
that has been around for

2296
02:16:50,400 --> 02:16:55,740
decades. And Bay of Rainbows if
that's not a metaphor for for

2297
02:16:55,740 --> 02:17:01,230
vagina, then I don't know what
it is. These guys are laughing

2298
02:17:01,230 --> 02:17:01,830
at us

2299
02:17:01,980 --> 02:17:03,930
I'm surprised they didn't use
Happy Valley

2300
02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:09,570
it may it may come I don't know
it's it's I can't believe it all

2301
02:17:09,570 --> 02:17:15,750
put up. Don't Roth J rabbit
basks in lunar Bay of Rainbows.

2302
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:20,970
Are you kidding me China's I
give him props for that though.

2303
02:17:21,450 --> 02:17:24,810
It went by I didn't even I
didn't even see it at first now.

2304
02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:26,640
Actually, Paul Pierre Dimon

2305
02:17:28,320 --> 02:17:29,340
turned me on to that

2306
02:17:30,719 --> 02:17:35,759
you remember the talking about
China the incidents suppose you

2307
02:17:35,759 --> 02:17:38,759
have one of our destroyers was
damn near rammed that piece of

2308
02:17:38,759 --> 02:17:42,539
crap that Ukrainian aircraft
carry that the Chinese have

2309
02:17:42,749 --> 02:17:43,859
built out?

2310
02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:48,120
Yeah, this is this is this was a
they had to change direction to

2311
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:49,080
evolve move

2312
02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:51,960
quick. So here's the here's what
actually really happened which

2313
02:17:51,960 --> 02:17:55,290
has never been reported here. Of
course, but and this I agree

2314
02:17:55,290 --> 02:17:58,860
with this report because this
report came from the NH NHK

2315
02:17:58,860 --> 02:18:03,480
Japanese news service. And
they're unlikely to be on the

2316
02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:06,840
side of the Chinese in any
dispute. No, but here's here's

2317
02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:08,670
the way they tell it what
happened. It was

2318
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:13,200
China has rebutted us criticism
concerning a near miss between

2319
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:17,070
their naval vessels earlier this
month in the South China Sea. US

2320
02:18:17,070 --> 02:18:20,220
Pacific Fleet officials said
last week that the Aegis

2321
02:18:20,220 --> 02:18:25,320
equipped cruiser USS Cowpens
narrowly avoided a collision

2322
02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:29,070
with a Chinese naval vessel. The
incident occurred on December 5

2323
02:18:29,070 --> 02:18:32,550
and international waters. US
official said the Chinese vessel

2324
02:18:32,550 --> 02:18:36,120
manoeuvre too close to the Aegis
cruiser, and it failed to act in

2325
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:39,720
line with international norms
which resulted in the near miss.

2326
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:42,960
China's defence ministry issued
a statement on Wednesday saying

2327
02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:45,870
its vessel handled the encounter
in strict accordance with

2328
02:18:45,870 --> 02:18:48,870
protocol. It said the two
defence departments were kept

2329
02:18:48,870 --> 02:18:51,630
informed of the situation and
carried out effective

2330
02:18:51,630 --> 02:18:54,690
communications. The ministry
added that both sides are

2331
02:18:54,690 --> 02:18:57,900
willing to maintain close
cooperation and make efforts to

2332
02:18:57,900 --> 02:19:01,230
ensure regional peace and
stability. You West media

2333
02:19:01,230 --> 02:19:04,500
reported that China's Liaoning
aircraft carrier had been

2334
02:19:04,500 --> 02:19:07,800
conducting training exercises
and the Aegis cruiser had been

2335
02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:10,740
gathering intelligence. The
report said that although the

2336
02:19:10,740 --> 02:19:14,760
Chinese side ordered the USS
calpains to stop, the cruiser

2337
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:18,210
kept moving because it was in
international waters. Then the

2338
02:19:18,210 --> 02:19:20,490
Chinese vessel blocked its
course.

2339
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:23,160
That sounds about right.

2340
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:27,959
Which is harassing them. Yeah.
Spying on their deal.

2341
02:19:28,740 --> 02:19:32,430
Well, we're in that we're in the
Chinese see anyway, we know. I'm

2342
02:19:32,430 --> 02:19:36,240
sorry. We're we're saving people
in the Philippines with the USS

2343
02:19:36,420 --> 02:19:38,850
George Washington biggest
aircraft carrier in the

2344
02:19:38,850 --> 02:19:42,360
universe. Yeah, we're saving
people here. And a couple of

2345
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:43,560
sorties a day who saved

2346
02:19:44,099 --> 02:19:46,379
them and then of course we
reported missed report the whole

2347
02:19:46,379 --> 02:19:49,049
thing. Yeah, I mean, I think
it'd be fine if we honestly say

2348
02:19:49,049 --> 02:19:53,699
we're out there harassing the
janitors this game, we shot bam

2349
02:19:53,699 --> 02:19:56,609
and that crappy old aircraft
carrier but no, the way they

2350
02:19:56,609 --> 02:19:58,529
have it. If you listen to some
of these reports, all the

2351
02:19:58,529 --> 02:20:00,779
Chinese are building up to
Munich. Russians, they're going

2352
02:20:00,779 --> 02:20:03,029
to have a bunch of these
aircraft carriers, this aircraft

2353
02:20:03,029 --> 02:20:04,469
carrier is a piece of crap.

2354
02:20:04,530 --> 02:20:07,260
The funny thing is when it went
away, you just said that which

2355
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:10,080
sounded very top Ganesh, which,
of course is our culture of our

2356
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:13,440
movies and everything. The
American people, I think we were

2357
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:17,220
ready for that kind of talk.
We're okay with it. You don't

2358
02:20:17,220 --> 02:20:20,760
have to lie. And I mean,
seriously, if if the news just

2359
02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:24,510
came on, and then you had
Dempsey? Well, Dempsey is not

2360
02:20:24,510 --> 02:20:28,140
the right guy. We need someone
with a little more stance to go.

2361
02:20:28,260 --> 02:20:34,020
Yeah, we're harassing them then.
chinks. Hi, yeah, yeah. Why?

2362
02:20:34,050 --> 02:20:36,840
Because we're protecting these
islands here that's important to

2363
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:38,700
us and our allies he's dealt,
but he

2364
02:20:38,700 --> 02:20:43,380
is Yeah. No reason that you
express there. Is it to an

2365
02:20:43,380 --> 02:20:46,200
extreme, including the

2366
02:20:46,500 --> 02:20:49,380
epithet, we gotta call the jab
because we're gonna happen

2367
02:20:49,380 --> 02:20:53,700
in this country because of the
women that really are behind.

2368
02:20:53,970 --> 02:20:57,360
Oh, you can't say that? Oh, you
do? Oh, you said something bad.

2369
02:20:57,450 --> 02:20:59,940
Oh, stop, you're out. You know,
take your average. Let's go

2370
02:20:59,940 --> 02:21:03,120
after the advertiser which
they're doing on a number of

2371
02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:04,620
shows. Now. Wait, stop.

2372
02:21:04,650 --> 02:21:07,530
I have another example of this
cultural Marxism. By the way,

2373
02:21:07,530 --> 02:21:12,210
you miss me saying Jackson nips?
I did. Yeah. Well, and here and

2374
02:21:12,210 --> 02:21:15,210
here's another one we can do
Jennifer Lawrence. She's an

2375
02:21:15,210 --> 02:21:15,840
actress,

2376
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:19,260
people who judge other women,
especially on the red carpet.

2377
02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:21,720
You're very sensitive to that.
Why?

2378
02:21:22,140 --> 02:21:26,400
Because why is humiliating
people funny. And I also and I

2379
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,320
get it, and I do it, too. We all
do

2380
02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:31,950
it. Well, why is it funny?
Because she's a dick.

2381
02:21:32,039 --> 02:21:36,299
I think when it comes to the
media, the media needs to take

2382
02:21:36,299 --> 02:21:40,499
responsibility for the effects
that it has on our younger

2383
02:21:40,499 --> 02:21:42,899
generation on these girls that
are watching these television

2384
02:21:42,899 --> 02:21:46,769
shows, and picking up how to
talk and how to be cool and how

2385
02:21:46,769 --> 02:21:49,679
to be. So then all of a sudden,
being funny as making fun of the

2386
02:21:49,679 --> 02:21:52,319
girl that's wearing an ugly
dress or making fun of the girl

2387
02:21:52,319 --> 02:21:55,799
that's, you know, and the word
fat. I just think it should be

2388
02:21:55,799 --> 02:21:58,979
illegal to call somebody fat on
TV, and we're regulating

2389
02:21:59,219 --> 02:22:02,849
cigarettes and sex and cuss
words. Because of the effect it

2390
02:22:02,849 --> 02:22:05,069
has on our younger generation.
Why aren't we regulating things

2391
02:22:05,069 --> 02:22:06,089
like calling people fat?

2392
02:22:06,420 --> 02:22:08,130
How about smelly bitches

2393
02:22:09,540 --> 02:22:13,020
regulating things like calling
people fat. That's what that's

2394
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:16,080
the exact quote. Yeah, that's
that's what it is. Why aren't we

2395
02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:20,190
regulating things we regulate?
People that by the way, should

2396
02:22:20,190 --> 02:22:22,350
be such as but that's another
sort of matter.

2397
02:22:22,530 --> 02:22:25,980
Like, wow. And of course,
Barbara walls.

2398
02:22:25,980 --> 02:22:27,390
How do you get like this?

2399
02:22:28,170 --> 02:22:30,450
This is what do you mean? How do
you get like this, she's a part

2400
02:22:30,450 --> 02:22:34,170
of the establishment. That's how
you get like this. This is this

2401
02:22:34,170 --> 02:22:37,320
is what the establishment talks
like, this is how the elites

2402
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:40,140
went. And Bill Gates and Melinda
Gates, they're in on this too.

2403
02:22:40,140 --> 02:22:45,360
They walk around talking this O
R word, S word, T word, C word,

2404
02:22:46,470 --> 02:22:52,230
V word. This is how this is,
this is what happens. And then

2405
02:22:52,230 --> 02:22:56,610
we lose everything. We lose
language, we lose meaning we

2406
02:22:56,610 --> 02:23:00,840
lose identity, we lose freedom
of speech, we lose the

2407
02:23:00,870 --> 02:23:04,350
opportunity to talk freely as
human beings.

2408
02:23:07,500 --> 02:23:09,600
definitely lose freedom of
speech. That's what this is all

2409
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:10,020
about.

2410
02:23:10,500 --> 02:23:14,400
Yeah. What happened to you can
say, I may not agree with what

2411
02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:17,160
you say, but I'll defend your
right to say to the death. No,

2412
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:19,320
everyone's like, I screwed that.
I

2413
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:23,220
shouldn't say that. That's what
it that's what it's evolved to.

2414
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:27,120
You shouldn't say that. It's not
nice, and it's hurting someone's

2415
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:31,680
feelings. Say that. You can't
say that. You can't say that.

2416
02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:34,080
Can't say that.

2417
02:23:35,730 --> 02:23:41,400
Okay, how about this, then? This
is, this is actually this. I

2418
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:42,540
thought this would get Clip of
the Day.

2419
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:45,210
We do know, as we look at the
larger picture here, Sean, that

2420
02:23:45,210 --> 02:23:48,150
LGBT rights is just one of the
points of friction, but twisted

2421
02:23:48,150 --> 02:23:48,390
is

2422
02:23:48,390 --> 02:23:51,930
another F Russia about social
games. And you know,

2423
02:23:52,110 --> 02:23:55,950
the Yeah, I got a couple clips
to follow. We in our country in

2424
02:23:55,950 --> 02:23:58,260
Russia right now, as we look at
the litany of other things right

2425
02:23:58,260 --> 02:24:00,690
now. It's Russia support for
Syria, their relationship with

2426
02:24:00,690 --> 02:24:04,320
Iran, current crisis in the
Ukraine, also the protection of

2427
02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:07,470
asylum that was granted to NSA
leaker leaker Edward Snowden

2428
02:24:07,470 --> 02:24:09,300
there in Russia. So how do you
think that the President can

2429
02:24:09,300 --> 02:24:14,130
balance all the delicate foreign
policy issues, but still take a

2430
02:24:14,130 --> 02:24:17,730
decisive stand on human rights
because so many people consider

2431
02:24:17,730 --> 02:24:20,190
President Obama to be the first
gay president?

2432
02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:24,000
I don't think he meant to say
that.

2433
02:24:24,450 --> 02:24:26,880
I don't know if that's, I think
it may be wrong, because don't

2434
02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:29,820
forget, he was on the cover of
business or Newsweek as first as

2435
02:24:29,820 --> 02:24:33,900
the first gay president. Yeah,
yeah. And it's come up in other

2436
02:24:33,930 --> 02:24:35,310
venues that he's well

2437
02:24:35,310 --> 02:24:39,810
we know we know them. We know
the fact. Fact.

2438
02:24:41,610 --> 02:24:45,180
But I don't know it depends on
what what outlet that was. I

2439
02:24:45,180 --> 02:24:48,030
know, there's a lot of stuff
going on. In fact, you want to

2440
02:24:48,030 --> 02:24:51,660
see the classic I mean, it's all
anti Russian anti Putin stuff.

2441
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:56,040
And apparently, I guess you
know, they there's some sort of,

2442
02:24:57,150 --> 02:25:00,480
we'll play the clip USA sends
gaze to the left Biggs

2443
02:25:02,070 --> 02:25:03,180
Hey, where's my memo?

2444
02:25:03,210 --> 02:25:07,200
Brock Obama may be even a slap
in the face for the Russian

2445
02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:10,380
delegation and openly gay
athletes. tennis legend Billie

2446
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:14,040
Jean King will be part of the US
delegation to the opening

2447
02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:17,910
ceremony in Russia on February
the seventh, there will be no US

2448
02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:20,790
president, there will be no US
First Lady, no vice president

2449
02:25:20,970 --> 02:25:25,470
and not a single member of the
cabinet here in Washington.

2450
02:25:25,710 --> 02:25:30,240
Instead, there will be a gay
rights activist. And there is

2451
02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:33,840
this statement from the White
House to back things up. The

2452
02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:37,560
Obama administration says that
its delegation, quote represents

2453
02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:41,070
the diversity that is the United
States we haven't even spoken

2454
02:25:41,070 --> 02:25:45,840
about the closing ceremony yet
that we'll also have as part of

2455
02:25:45,840 --> 02:25:49,740
its delegation, an openly gay
American athlete that will be

2456
02:25:49,860 --> 02:25:55,170
Caitlyn Kay, how she is a two
time Olympic medalist in ice

2457
02:25:55,170 --> 02:25:59,820
hockey, a clear snub and a
protest almost on behalf of the

2458
02:25:59,820 --> 02:26:03,120
Obama administration, Russian
President Vladimir Putin will

2459
02:26:03,120 --> 02:26:04,020
not be happy.

2460
02:26:05,130 --> 02:26:11,580
Hold on a second. Okay, so
besides the fact that Pakistan

2461
02:26:11,880 --> 02:26:16,590
actually it has outlawed gay sex
constitutionally, and you know,

2462
02:26:16,590 --> 02:26:18,840
everything, everything's all
good for them. In fact, you

2463
02:26:18,840 --> 02:26:21,300
know, they're, they're still
letting us drone they're

2464
02:26:21,300 --> 02:26:27,360
terrorists. And there's not a
word said about that. We are now

2465
02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:31,470
going to continue this bullcrap
mean that Russia has some anti

2466
02:26:31,470 --> 02:26:35,760
gay stance, which is
categorically not true. And in

2467
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:40,290
fact, the Russian laws are much
more LGBTQ. LMNOP friendly then

2468
02:26:40,320 --> 02:26:45,060
United States laws in general.
But then we're sending Billie

2469
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:52,050
Jean King as as our gay census
someone hearts This is dumb.

2470
02:26:52,260 --> 02:26:55,890
This is who cares Billie Jean.
When is the last time she was on

2471
02:26:55,890 --> 02:27:00,030
a tennis court? When's the last
time she was on a woman? This is

2472
02:27:00,030 --> 02:27:04,380
dumb. Let me look at this
Caitlyn Is she hot? This

2473
02:27:04,380 --> 02:27:04,980
Caitlyn.

2474
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:07,920
By the way I listened to this
and it's like oh, that's that's

2475
02:27:07,950 --> 02:27:11,040
you know they did this one other
time. I remember years ago they

2476
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:13,080
had the they come and go

2477
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:16,590
I got dizzy from that. outburst.
I'm sorry.

2478
02:27:16,860 --> 02:27:20,910
kuvaas Because you're ill. Yeah.
It was a good outburst. I

2479
02:27:20,910 --> 02:27:24,900
enjoyed it. So we've done this
before in the past, but why

2480
02:27:24,900 --> 02:27:27,300
doesn't you know the people that
have to crack down on this is

2481
02:27:27,300 --> 02:27:29,220
not the Russians. They should
just who cares? We just get

2482
02:27:29,220 --> 02:27:33,060
whatever money we get. Where's
the Olympic Committee? They're

2483
02:27:33,060 --> 02:27:35,490
the ones that these guys run the
world they should be coming over

2484
02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:39,420
say hey, you're never gonna get
another Olympics in your country

2485
02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:41,790
if you keep this bullshit up.
How could

2486
02:27:41,790 --> 02:27:45,600
they even choose this country?
Because it's not true. They love

2487
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:47,760
it. It's all it's all about the
money for them. This is

2488
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:52,170
fantastic. Get this promotion
everyone to watch. But boy,

2489
02:27:52,170 --> 02:27:55,080
yeah. Well, that's true.

2490
02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:59,940
But come on. If we're gonna send
a lesbian to Russia. Let's send

2491
02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:04,860
Let's send a good one. No Cheese
Louise. Why did have to Billie

2492
02:28:04,860 --> 02:28:09,180
Jean King. That's it's like
Elton John with a with a bra. I

2493
02:28:09,180 --> 02:28:10,410
mean, come on.

2494
02:28:13,860 --> 02:28:16,650
I don't know where that came
from. Please vote for us an

2495
02:28:16,650 --> 02:28:17,490
image I just

2496
02:28:20,370 --> 02:28:21,630
Oh, man.

2497
02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:25,140
They're going after the RT is
finally getting out of its

2498
02:28:25,140 --> 02:28:27,480
shell. And they're dead just
trying to blast the US every way

2499
02:28:27,480 --> 02:28:31,440
they can. So let's look at this
clip, which is the anti American

2500
02:28:31,440 --> 02:28:35,040
Middle East pitch on Russia
today, which I just think was

2501
02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:35,730
off the wall.

2502
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:38,310
What do you make up how the US
is responding to this issue

2503
02:28:38,310 --> 02:28:41,880
given the conflicting interests
here, for example, in Syria, you

2504
02:28:41,880 --> 02:28:44,610
have the Assad government, which
has been friendly to the

2505
02:28:44,610 --> 02:28:47,130
Christian communities. But the
US is opposed to the Assad

2506
02:28:47,130 --> 02:28:49,650
government instead favours the
rebels which we're now seeing

2507
02:28:49,650 --> 02:28:53,070
factions of the rebels not being
friendly to Christians, can the

2508
02:28:53,070 --> 02:28:55,620
US even play a role in
mitigating this problem?

2509
02:28:55,680 --> 02:29:03,030
Nobody understands what the US
game plan at this, at this time

2510
02:29:03,030 --> 02:29:06,870
in the Middle East, the US, for
the first time in a very long

2511
02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:11,640
time, are perceived in the
Middle East, even by its

2512
02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:15,720
strongest allies, such as Saudi
Arabia and Egypt as an

2513
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:20,520
unreliable partner. This is
quite harsh. I have not heard

2514
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:27,450
such harsh criticism for the US
government, probably since the

2515
02:29:27,450 --> 02:29:31,560
height of the anti American
sentiments in Egypt in the

2516
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:32,820
Middle East in the 60s.

2517
02:29:34,770 --> 02:29:37,380
So they're going to believe in
their story after story. All

2518
02:29:37,380 --> 02:29:40,530
they're doing is blasting our
foreign policy blasts in the US

2519
02:29:40,530 --> 02:29:44,550
on our tea with various anchors
and they're all in on this. It's

2520
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:46,710
actually quite quite
entertaining. I have to say.

2521
02:29:48,810 --> 02:29:54,780
Putin changed something I think
he did away with Ria. He closed

2522
02:29:54,780 --> 02:29:59,760
down the the RIA News
organisation and as bolstered

2523
02:29:59,760 --> 02:30:02,580
our Tea I think there was ice
read about some change. So that

2524
02:30:02,580 --> 02:30:05,910
makes sense if we're seeing an
increase in anti American

2525
02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:06,810
sentiment from them

2526
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:12,810
yeah and pro and a lot of pro
Syrian sentiment Yeah. Including

2527
02:30:12,810 --> 02:30:15,480
this there's got a couple of
clips on the Syria thing play

2528
02:30:15,480 --> 02:30:20,490
great Assad propaganda. Okay,
killed are used as human

2529
02:30:20,490 --> 02:30:21,090
shields.

2530
02:30:21,180 --> 02:30:23,340
The things being done in our
drawer unthinkable. They're

2531
02:30:23,340 --> 02:30:25,830
slaughtering children and
throwing them out a Windows and

2532
02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:27,210
no one's doing anything about
it.

2533
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:32,970
Yes, yes. Those are the rebels
by the way. That's the rebel.

2534
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:35,310
Yeah, that's, of course it's
completely believable.

2535
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:39,060
Thrown children out of windows
and nobody is doing anything

2536
02:30:39,060 --> 02:30:42,270
about it. Play aside part two.
This is getting good. Right now.

2537
02:30:42,270 --> 02:30:45,510
Syrian authorities say they have
evidence confirming that

2538
02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:49,860
massacres have taken place and
address Sadad Latakia and many

2539
02:30:49,860 --> 02:30:53,310
other areas, which remain under
the control of the armed

2540
02:30:53,310 --> 02:30:57,540
opposition. The situation in
Syria has now deteriorated to

2541
02:30:57,540 --> 02:31:01,170
the point that international
norms of combat are no longer

2542
02:31:01,170 --> 02:31:02,070
being observed

2543
02:31:02,130 --> 02:31:04,890
by of course the throwing kids
out window these are the rebels

2544
02:31:04,890 --> 02:31:06,840
who are throwing the kids out of
the windows. Yeah,

2545
02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:09,780
obviously and he's got his part
three we wrap it up hydro he's

2546
02:31:09,780 --> 02:31:13,680
an industrial town with a lot of
its residents working both in

2547
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:17,220
the private sector and for
government agencies. Horrifying

2548
02:31:17,220 --> 02:31:21,090
crimes have been committed in
this town houses were set on

2549
02:31:21,090 --> 02:31:23,880
fire with people trapped inside
the Syrian

2550
02:31:23,880 --> 02:31:27,360
army which is positioned just
outside the town continues to

2551
02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:31,050
carry out surgical strikes as
part of their effort to liberate

2552
02:31:31,050 --> 02:31:35,160
ADRA which is now the only hope
of the families waiting for news

2553
02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:37,890
of their loved ones inside the
town. You know,

2554
02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:39,990
Oh, wow. Well,

2555
02:31:40,020 --> 02:31:43,050
before you say that, I just
wanted that thing. You just

2556
02:31:43,050 --> 02:31:47,880
heard that thing there is so
amateurish surgical strikes.

2557
02:31:47,970 --> 02:31:52,320
Yeah. Russians suck at this.
Yeah, well,

2558
02:31:52,830 --> 02:31:57,720
yeah. Yeah, they suck and they
need help. surgical strikes. I

2559
02:31:57,720 --> 02:32:00,300
heard it I was thinking that

2560
02:32:02,040 --> 02:32:06,360
you know how my mom would say
like, you know,

2561
02:32:07,500 --> 02:32:09,210
if you don't clean up your room
we're going to send you to

2562
02:32:09,210 --> 02:32:10,800
Africa where you don't have a
room

2563
02:32:12,600 --> 02:32:15,690
so now now parents don't have
about sending the food that the

2564
02:32:16,020 --> 02:32:17,580
starving Chinese right so

2565
02:32:17,580 --> 02:32:20,310
now we can just say you know if
you don't behave yourself Adam

2566
02:32:20,310 --> 02:32:23,400
Clark curry I'm sending you to
to Syria where they throw

2567
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:24,780
children like you out the
window.

2568
02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:29,430
Yeah, it's very out the window.
Bam. no apparent reason.

2569
02:32:30,060 --> 02:32:32,760
No, of course not. Well, this is
not very good.

2570
02:32:33,750 --> 02:32:37,020
I have a couple of throat
callbacks to the earlier part of

2571
02:32:37,020 --> 02:32:41,010
the show. No, okay. One of them
but which does not do the

2572
02:32:41,010 --> 02:32:44,010
callback is the sob winds the
jet do listen to this little

2573
02:32:44,010 --> 02:32:47,460
piece of propaganda, I believe.
I think this was on van cat. So

2574
02:32:47,460 --> 02:32:51,240
it wasn't a Russian propaganda.
But I think it's very telling

2575
02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:54,810
and if anyone should be at the
table with the laughing Obama

2576
02:32:54,810 --> 02:32:58,020
and Biden that it should have
been the CEO of Boeing.

2577
02:32:58,110 --> 02:33:01,560
Now Brazil has managed to put
several noses out of joint in

2578
02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:05,040
both France and the United
States in choosing who to buy

2579
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:06,480
new fighter planes from

2580
02:33:06,510 --> 02:33:10,230
Yeah, simple deal that's caused
a lot of diplomatic tussle I

2581
02:33:10,230 --> 02:33:14,010
suppose. After a decade of on
and off negotiations. It was

2582
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:19,260
Sweden's Saab, which won the
$4.5 billion dollar contract to

2583
02:33:19,260 --> 02:33:22,950
supply fighter jets to Brazil.
Now the deal will see Sao Paulo

2584
02:33:22,980 --> 02:33:27,750
were supplied with 36 new jets
by 2020 sub one out over

2585
02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:30,900
competition from France's Dessel
and also Boeing, an American

2586
02:33:30,900 --> 02:33:33,900
company. Now when Brazilian
government source said that that

2587
02:33:33,900 --> 02:33:38,310
was the NSA spying scandal that
cost the American firm, its

2588
02:33:38,310 --> 02:33:41,490
chance at winning contracts.
That's certainly a surprise

2589
02:33:41,490 --> 02:33:41,940
choice.

2590
02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:43,380
Interesting.

2591
02:33:45,450 --> 02:33:48,810
You know, Snowden wrote an open
Well, I'm sorry, Glenn

2592
02:33:48,810 --> 02:33:54,150
Greenwald. Dorf wrote an open
letter on behalf of Edward

2593
02:33:54,150 --> 02:33:56,700
Snowden because it's Greenwald's
writing, you can tell.

2594
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:01,530
Actually, there's analytic tools
that you could run and you could

2595
02:34:01,530 --> 02:34:02,730
probably find it was him.

2596
02:34:02,790 --> 02:34:04,470
Do we have those tools handy?

2597
02:34:05,010 --> 02:34:06,750
Actually, I have a couple of
them but I you know, they're

2598
02:34:06,750 --> 02:34:10,560
buried somewhere in the office.
Don't count on you

2599
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:17,040
could have just said no. Yeah.
No, where he is now vying for

2600
02:34:17,070 --> 02:34:21,930
asylum in Brazil, and then
everything starts to come into

2601
02:34:21,930 --> 02:34:23,550
vision. Now, you know what I
mean?

2602
02:34:24,030 --> 02:34:27,390
Well, actually, the unreported
Snowden suggested deal is that

2603
02:34:27,390 --> 02:34:29,490
clip about what exactly what you
said,

2604
02:34:29,610 --> 02:34:32,460
Okay. Wow, you come prepared
white men.

2605
02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:37,140
And as NSA whistleblower Edward
Snowden offers to help Brazil

2606
02:34:37,170 --> 02:34:41,640
dig deeper into NSA activities.
He said he could do so in

2607
02:34:41,640 --> 02:34:46,140
exchange for political asylum.
The Snowden leaks have provoked

2608
02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:48,960
outrage about us mass
surveillance worldwide.

2609
02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:53,520
Yeah, yeah. No, I It's all
coming into view now. But what

2610
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:56,850
was interesting about this
letter, hold on a second. And

2611
02:34:56,880 --> 02:35:00,720
the reason I don't I don't need
any, any tool Hold on. I have a

2612
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:07,500
letter here, PIPA open letter to
the people of Brazil. Let me

2613
02:35:07,500 --> 02:35:12,450
just open this up in the web
browser. There was something

2614
02:35:12,450 --> 02:35:16,950
very annoying in here that
caught my eye and as a no agenda

2615
02:35:16,950 --> 02:35:21,660
producer, everyone else would go
rather. So it says says an open

2616
02:35:21,660 --> 02:35:24,270
letter to people in Brazil,
Edward Snowden six months ago, I

2617
02:35:24,270 --> 02:35:31,770
stepped out from the shadows
lady lady lady law. And then we

2618
02:35:31,770 --> 02:35:38,730
have I have expressed my
willingness to assist wherever

2619
02:35:38,730 --> 02:35:41,070
appropriate and lawful. But
unfortunately, the United States

2620
02:35:41,070 --> 02:35:44,280
government has worked very hard
to limit my ability to do so

2621
02:35:44,460 --> 02:35:48,540
going so far as to force down
the presidential plane of Evo

2622
02:35:48,540 --> 02:35:51,690
Morales to prevent me from
travelling to Latin America.

2623
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:54,180
That's a lie.

2624
02:35:55,620 --> 02:35:59,760
Well, it's not only a lie, but
he wasn't on that plane. No. So

2625
02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:03,330
it's a double kind of a it's a
lie in different dimensions.

2626
02:36:03,360 --> 02:36:08,160
The plane was not forced down.
We have the air traffic control

2627
02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:12,300
audio, we've played it several
times. They, they they had their

2628
02:36:12,330 --> 02:36:15,810
own lie on the flight crew had
their own lie that they wanted

2629
02:36:15,810 --> 02:36:17,940
to land because someone was
wrong with their gauges. They

2630
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:23,100
asked to land no one was forced
down. No matter what how you put

2631
02:36:23,100 --> 02:36:26,400
it, going so far as to force
down the presidential plane.

2632
02:36:26,550 --> 02:36:30,030
That is a lie. And that tells me
the Glenn Greenwald don't rap

2633
02:36:30,330 --> 02:36:38,280
wrote it. He writes this stuff.
This guy is. Okay. Hey, I need

2634
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:43,950
to remind you, we're going to
talk about the something related

2635
02:36:43,950 --> 02:36:49,530
to that. Come on about our bees.
Oh, so Washington Post.

2636
02:36:49,860 --> 02:36:52,500
Oh, yeah. Bezos, the Washington
Post where I get to two clips of

2637
02:36:52,500 --> 02:36:56,130
sets it up. We can talk about
it. Yeah. The first one would be

2638
02:36:56,940 --> 02:37:02,610
a Washington Post. No, no, no,
no, it would be BS. Yeah, why

2639
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:05,370
the Bezos Washington Post and
CIA story that's the one

2640
02:37:05,609 --> 02:37:08,279
on the Washington Post is
dealing with conflict of

2641
02:37:08,279 --> 02:37:12,089
interest questions. That
newspaper was recently acquired

2642
02:37:12,089 --> 02:37:17,129
by Jeff Bezos, the founder and
CEO of Amazon. And as CEO of

2643
02:37:17,129 --> 02:37:21,929
Amazon Bezos recently signed a
$600 million contract with the

2644
02:37:21,929 --> 02:37:26,669
CIA to provide cloud computing
infrastructure, the 600 million

2645
02:37:26,669 --> 02:37:31,109
that Bezos is getting from the
CIA eclipses the 250 million he

2646
02:37:31,109 --> 02:37:34,169
paid to buy the Washington Post
newspaper. And there are

2647
02:37:34,169 --> 02:37:36,779
questions over whether or not
this deal could affect the

2648
02:37:36,779 --> 02:37:41,579
Washington Post reporting on CIA
matters. Here's Bezos responding

2649
02:37:41,579 --> 02:37:42,599
on 60 minutes.

2650
02:37:43,230 --> 02:37:45,870
does that present any conflict
for you the fact that you

2651
02:37:45,870 --> 02:37:49,710
provide a cloud that the CIA
uses for its data? I don't think

2652
02:37:49,710 --> 02:37:52,230
so. We're building what's called
a private cloud for them,

2653
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:54,420
Charlie, because they don't want
to be on the public cloud.

2654
02:37:55,050 --> 02:37:57,570
But here's what former
Washington Post reporter John

2655
02:37:57,570 --> 02:38:01,170
Hanrahan told The Huffington
Post, quote, one thing is

2656
02:38:01,170 --> 02:38:04,680
certain posts, reporters and
editors are aware that Bezos, as

2657
02:38:04,680 --> 02:38:07,980
majority owner of Amazon has a
financial stake in maintaining

2658
02:38:07,980 --> 02:38:11,790
good relations with the CIA. And
this sends a clear message to

2659
02:38:11,790 --> 02:38:15,150
even the hardest nose journalist
that making the CIA look bad

2660
02:38:15,150 --> 02:38:17,220
might not be a good career move,

2661
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:19,680
right? Is it Bezos, or Bezos?

2662
02:38:19,710 --> 02:38:23,460
Oh, who cares? These knows play
the professor on the CIA and

2663
02:38:23,460 --> 02:38:27,450
Bezos and Amazon story. There's
the guy that this, by the way is

2664
02:38:27,450 --> 02:38:30,810
all on Russia today, too, you
know, again, go after us.

2665
02:38:30,840 --> 02:38:35,010
I mean, I would hate to be a
Washington Post reporter on that

2666
02:38:35,010 --> 02:38:38,610
beat, I'd hate to be a
Washington requester reporter on

2667
02:38:38,610 --> 02:38:44,220
a few other beats. That basis,
you know, is involved in, but

2668
02:38:44,220 --> 02:38:48,030
yeah, it has a chilling effect
that everyone there knows that

2669
02:38:48,030 --> 02:38:53,370
the Washington Post that Amazon
already played a role, it wasn't

2670
02:38:53,370 --> 02:38:57,240
a very kosher one, and kicking
WikiLeaks off of its web

2671
02:38:57,240 --> 02:39:01,290
hosting, which really hurt
WikiLeaks, during the height of

2672
02:39:01,290 --> 02:39:07,350
a controversy a while back. And
so the relationship of Amazon

2673
02:39:07,350 --> 02:39:13,140
and Bezos to an agency like the
CIA is, is very relevant. And

2674
02:39:13,350 --> 02:39:16,500
remember an Amazon spokesman
last month, were saying we look

2675
02:39:16,500 --> 02:39:19,770
forward to a successful
relationship with the CIA.

2676
02:39:21,210 --> 02:39:22,350
Of course, what I'd say

2677
02:39:23,550 --> 02:39:25,140
that's what I say to that kind
of money.

2678
02:39:26,820 --> 02:39:32,940
People talk about that actual
point that Amazon etc to the a

2679
02:39:32,940 --> 02:39:35,760
the Amazon Web Services kicked
WikiLeaks off, I'd forgotten

2680
02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:39,450
about that. Actually. It's all
people only talk about the

2681
02:39:39,450 --> 02:39:41,460
PayPal stuff, but yeah, Amazon
kicked them off their

2682
02:39:41,460 --> 02:39:42,600
infrastructure. I remember that.

2683
02:39:43,050 --> 02:39:45,960
Yeah. So epsilon,

2684
02:39:45,990 --> 02:39:49,080
which is what which is why it's
so great that we're using bit

2685
02:39:49,080 --> 02:39:53,340
torn sink because you know what,
even if someone shut down, if

2686
02:39:53,340 --> 02:39:57,480
they took away my computers and
cut off my cable, all I'd have

2687
02:39:57,480 --> 02:40:03,210
to do is give the one number or
which I've memorised that one

2688
02:40:03,210 --> 02:40:07,290
key to anyone else who anyone in
the world and then they could

2689
02:40:07,290 --> 02:40:10,290
automatically become the seed
the the main seed for the no

2690
02:40:10,290 --> 02:40:13,380
agenda show propagation. How
cool is that?

2691
02:40:14,610 --> 02:40:17,640
Back to this Washington Post
story, does anybody think the

2692
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:20,400
Washington Post is not long
since been compromised?

2693
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:25,470
And that's it's funny because no
one seems to understand anymore

2694
02:40:25,470 --> 02:40:30,360
that because internet it's just
done. The Washington with the

2695
02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:32,550
Washington The Washington Post
for the day they took the first

2696
02:40:32,550 --> 02:40:36,810
advertisement was compromised
Hello? Oh, yes, of course, it's

2697
02:40:36,810 --> 02:40:40,440
compromised and no and no one
cares about the Washington Post

2698
02:40:40,560 --> 02:40:43,560
other than the people in
Washington. So it's the whole

2699
02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:47,760
thing is all of this, all of
this stuff is just that whatever

2700
02:40:47,760 --> 02:40:50,910
you can move, finagle and get
something, get some heat and get

2701
02:40:50,910 --> 02:40:53,670
the other suckers to flow along
with it and get everyone talking

2702
02:40:53,670 --> 02:40:55,560
about it, then you've got your
moment, then you can push

2703
02:40:55,560 --> 02:40:57,600
something through and you're
done. And we're on to the next

2704
02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:02,550
thing. Yeah, of course, they're
compromised. And it would like

2705
02:41:02,580 --> 02:41:06,540
like Carlos Slim is not
compromising the New York Times

2706
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:10,140
to write about
telecommunications course

2707
02:41:10,200 --> 02:41:10,980
course.

2708
02:41:12,750 --> 02:41:17,010
So this is a nonstory, who cares
with Bezos? The Washington know

2709
02:41:17,010 --> 02:41:19,500
what what we're, what we're
seeing here is it's kind of like

2710
02:41:19,500 --> 02:41:22,590
your beanie babies. This is when
the journalists are starting to

2711
02:41:22,590 --> 02:41:26,160
eat each other. Now they're all
yelling at each other. You say

2712
02:41:26,250 --> 02:41:29,730
because you essentially the
Washington Post has been saved.

2713
02:41:29,730 --> 02:41:32,010
He said to money though most of
these things are money losing

2714
02:41:32,010 --> 02:41:36,210
operations. It's been saved for
the foreseeable future

2715
02:41:36,210 --> 02:41:38,610
everyone's happy they got a job.
You know, there's I think

2716
02:41:38,610 --> 02:41:42,540
there's journalists unions, they
have minimum wage written

2717
02:41:42,570 --> 02:41:46,860
contracts the guild, the guild,
thank you. They've got pensions

2718
02:41:46,860 --> 02:41:49,200
and this is a big deal. People
care about themselves first and

2719
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:53,700
foremost. And, and other
journalists are sick of it.

2720
02:41:55,140 --> 02:41:59,430
They're all the day the
candidate you can't, you can't

2721
02:41:59,430 --> 02:42:02,220
do that. You can't do that. You
can't get you to do this. It's

2722
02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:06,270
gonna go back and forth. And
then meanwhile, the thieves are

2723
02:42:06,270 --> 02:42:11,490
laughing, stealing our money and
then tiptoeing away into the

2724
02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:13,770
into the, into the sunset.

2725
02:42:14,460 --> 02:42:17,700
I have a third party this was
says WaPo. Part two, I'm not I

2726
02:42:17,700 --> 02:42:20,280
don't remember what it was. But
it was, it was a perfect lead

2727
02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:22,170
into the donation segment, which

2728
02:42:22,439 --> 02:42:24,719
was the clip is longer than the
donation segment.

2729
02:42:25,019 --> 02:42:25,769
It's only tourists.

2730
02:42:26,970 --> 02:42:30,540
Post isn't the only newspaper
that seeing its reputation

2731
02:42:30,540 --> 02:42:34,110
question. In fact, Americans are
losing confidence in all

2732
02:42:34,110 --> 02:42:38,700
newspapers. Is a Gallup poll
found back in June, only 23% of

2733
02:42:38,700 --> 02:42:42,600
Americans almost a new historic
low have confidence in

2734
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:43,530
newspapers.

2735
02:42:43,890 --> 02:42:46,530
Yes. According to whose poll a
newspaper poll?

2736
02:42:46,920 --> 02:42:49,890
No. 23% is a low number, their
new favourite polls would jack

2737
02:42:49,890 --> 02:42:54,870
it up? Well, there you go. 23%.
And another was less than one in

2738
02:42:54,870 --> 02:43:02,700
four persons have any confidence
in in major media? I mean, gee,

2739
02:43:02,790 --> 02:43:06,210
is that if that's not a lead
into like helping people support

2740
02:43:06,210 --> 02:43:07,890
us a little more, I don't know
what is?

2741
02:43:08,100 --> 02:43:14,550
Well, yes, absolutely true. And
we have more time, we focus on

2742
02:43:14,550 --> 02:43:17,190
less topics, perhaps because,
you know, I don't know, we don't

2743
02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:19,560
have to do the Lindsay Lohan
story of the Kim Kardashian

2744
02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:22,620
story. We can if we want, we
have time to do what's playing

2745
02:43:22,620 --> 02:43:26,550
on the non TV, not for ratings.
You know, I went through your

2746
02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:30,840
308 page document. No one even
gave you the names. They all

2747
02:43:31,020 --> 02:43:35,580
even Glenn Greenwald route on
rap Key said, now just you know,

2748
02:43:35,580 --> 02:43:37,710
White House shills, he didn't
even give you the net. It's

2749
02:43:37,710 --> 02:43:40,230
interesting to know who those
names are. And then you can then

2750
02:43:40,260 --> 02:43:43,260
immediately understand the
insight. This is the kind of

2751
02:43:43,290 --> 02:43:47,430
analysis that anyone could give
you. But not with the model that

2752
02:43:47,430 --> 02:43:51,180
they're using. They have to be
on the high pay short, hit the

2753
02:43:51,180 --> 02:43:53,370
news at the top of the hour, we
got to cut it off for the

2754
02:43:53,370 --> 02:43:57,570
commercial break. That's why I
think that's why we've been

2755
02:43:57,570 --> 02:43:59,790
doing it for more than six
years. And oh, by the way, we

2756
02:43:59,790 --> 02:44:04,260
make it look easy. So consider
what goes into it. Try. Hey,

2757
02:44:04,260 --> 02:44:05,940
please do a show anytime.

2758
02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:09,570
Give it a shot. Go look at a few
people try.

2759
02:44:09,600 --> 02:44:11,220
Yeah, go look at the show notes
five,

2760
02:44:11,340 --> 02:44:14,910
because I have yet to have a
very tolerant family. So as I'm

2761
02:44:14,910 --> 02:44:18,870
sitting there watching like the
News Hour and C span and

2762
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:22,680
whatever else there is, and I'm
getting crazy clips, you know,

2763
02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:25,140
they want to watch something
they actually they've all given

2764
02:44:25,140 --> 02:44:27,180
up now they're all playing video
games to get through and they

2765
02:44:27,180 --> 02:44:29,760
all hold up in their own mind
just so you have to have a

2766
02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:33,570
tolerant family to do this. Yes,
especially you're just studying

2767
02:44:33,570 --> 02:44:34,290
all the time.

2768
02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:38,520
Yeah. Yeah, it never really
stops you just always analysing

2769
02:44:38,520 --> 02:44:42,360
and always looking for
unfortunately always looking for

2770
02:44:42,360 --> 02:44:45,540
the angle which sometimes there
is just no angle and I think

2771
02:44:45,570 --> 02:44:48,420
family members get tired of you
always being looking for the

2772
02:44:48,420 --> 02:44:51,420
angle and just can you just shut
up and enjoy it for once. That's

2773
02:44:51,420 --> 02:44:52,470
what I get sometimes.

2774
02:44:53,940 --> 02:44:55,980
I haven't gotten that. Well, no

2775
02:44:55,980 --> 02:45:00,810
but from that for my daughter.
It's understandable So please

2776
02:45:00,810 --> 02:45:06,600
support us to vorak.org/na. That
is where you can, it doesn't it

2777
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:09,840
doesn't matter what you support
us with all these all the bits

2778
02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:14,160
and bobs help. I'm always
astounded by people who say they

2779
02:45:14,190 --> 02:45:21,180
they can't donate canif I'm like
$5. Really, really $5 And you

2780
02:45:21,180 --> 02:45:23,580
couldn't find that. Okay?

2781
02:45:23,790 --> 02:45:27,870
No, it's nonsense. When we have
kids like the worst, the first

2782
02:45:27,870 --> 02:45:31,110
check kid wrote and wrote to us,
there's a lot of students,

2783
02:45:31,380 --> 02:45:35,370
there's, you know, starving
artists, they don't come up and

2784
02:45:35,370 --> 02:45:38,010
say there's no excuse me,
there's always just the excuse

2785
02:45:38,010 --> 02:45:40,530
is because you don't want to
support us.

2786
02:45:41,880 --> 02:45:44,400
But you just want to have a
private conversation on email.

2787
02:45:44,430 --> 02:45:47,400
Let me argue with Adam for a
little while. That's fun. He'll

2788
02:45:47,400 --> 02:45:51,750
do that for free. But this is a
moment to stop and just reflect

2789
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:56,430
what has happened to us. We are
in the in in a fundamental

2790
02:45:56,430 --> 02:46:00,360
monumental change in the world.
And we're glossing over it,

2791
02:46:00,540 --> 02:46:04,440
because Facebook, Twitter,
Google, et cetera, YouTube,

2792
02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:13,290
Spotify, iTunes, iPods, iPhones,
what is capable what you are a

2793
02:46:13,290 --> 02:46:17,220
part of listening to this
podcast. That is That is the

2794
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:23,610
true revolution that is taking
place. Because while everyone is

2795
02:46:23,610 --> 02:46:28,350
fighting for position, remember
newspaper ads, they'd had the

2796
02:46:28,350 --> 02:46:30,960
classifieds. That's why
newspapers ran out of money,

2797
02:46:31,050 --> 02:46:34,740
because the classifieds went to
Craigslist and to and to Angie's

2798
02:46:34,740 --> 02:46:37,260
List and all these other places.
They and even though they were

2799
02:46:37,260 --> 02:46:40,110
warned, that was their
moneymaker was the classified

2800
02:46:40,110 --> 02:46:43,230
ads. And they had no way to make
money without being completely

2801
02:46:43,230 --> 02:46:46,500
compromised, because all the
advertisers go look at CNET, you

2802
02:46:46,500 --> 02:46:48,810
know, you look at CNET. What are
they advertising, ads,

2803
02:46:48,840 --> 02:46:52,110
technology, electronics,
gadgets, phones, these people

2804
02:46:52,110 --> 02:46:54,990
compromise, there's no, there's
no two ways about it. This is

2805
02:46:54,990 --> 02:46:59,580
what goes they say they're not
but they are. We are not

2806
02:46:59,880 --> 02:47:03,750
broadcasting this on YouTube,
we're not on Facebook, we're not

2807
02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:07,680
on the Twitter network. We're
not owned by anybody, we're run

2808
02:47:07,680 --> 02:47:10,650
by you, you help us distribute
the programme with these brand

2809
02:47:10,650 --> 02:47:14,010
new protocols that are
disrupting life as we know it,

2810
02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:17,550
the music business is dead over
and done with the movie

2811
02:47:17,550 --> 02:47:20,400
business, they're dead, they
have to figure it all out all

2812
02:47:20,400 --> 02:47:23,130
over again. And it's going to
take another 10 years of the

2813
02:47:23,130 --> 02:47:26,520
struggling and everyone yelling
and fighting and legislation and

2814
02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:30,210
eating each other up. Meanwhile,
we are just kind of kind of

2815
02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:33,570
eking through the window of
opportunity. And as long as we

2816
02:47:33,570 --> 02:47:36,270
can keep the support going. I
think we can keep the programme

2817
02:47:36,270 --> 02:47:40,410
and the analysis going. And that
is truly something Fendt just

2818
02:47:40,410 --> 02:47:44,820
mind blowing that is happening
in your lifetime. And you're a

2819
02:47:44,820 --> 02:47:45,300
part of it.

2820
02:47:47,040 --> 02:47:49,800
That was good. Yeah. Thank you.
That was a 10 pointer

2821
02:47:50,730 --> 02:47:56,640
from the 3d, three pointer line.
But I really feel that way. Oh,

2822
02:47:56,640 --> 02:47:57,390
and by the way,

2823
02:47:58,740 --> 02:48:02,610
this is why the people that an
hour of code, aren't teaching

2824
02:48:02,640 --> 02:48:06,990
Linux, they aren't teaching php.
Now they're teaching all the

2825
02:48:06,990 --> 02:48:11,700
commercial crap@code.org Thank
you for the number of producers

2826
02:48:11,700 --> 02:48:16,350
who pointed that out to me. I
don't want you to really realise

2827
02:48:16,350 --> 02:48:19,050
that the network is there. The
protocols are there. The

2828
02:48:19,050 --> 02:48:23,970
software is there. You can do
it. Alright, I think I'll go

2829
02:48:23,970 --> 02:48:24,630
collapse now.

2830
02:48:25,320 --> 02:48:28,170
Yes, it's time for you to get
some rest my friend. Yeah. For

2831
02:48:28,170 --> 02:48:33,000
the Sunday show coming up. The
Big Show where there'll be some

2832
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:35,130
cool stuff over you know,
there's always some cool stuff

2833
02:48:35,130 --> 02:48:37,080
at the end of the week. You'd
like to throw some stuff into

2834
02:48:37,080 --> 02:48:40,350
the pot. So it's forgotten by
Monday. Yeah, especially with

2835
02:48:40,350 --> 02:48:42,930
Christmas coming up. And
Christmas is coming up so it was

2836
02:48:42,930 --> 02:48:43,830
gonna be shopping.

2837
02:48:46,050 --> 02:48:48,240
Someone will be shopping
somewhere.

2838
02:48:48,869 --> 02:48:50,879
Someone's shopping it all the
time. It's always in the

2839
02:48:50,879 --> 02:48:53,339
morning. Alright, everybody
coming to you from FEMA

2840
02:48:53,340 --> 02:48:56,910
Region six here in Austin, Texas
at the Travis heights hideouts

2841
02:48:57,780 --> 02:48:58,980
in the morning. I'm Adam curry.

2842
02:48:59,189 --> 02:49:02,999
And from somewhere one of the
FEMA regions nine I believe.

2843
02:49:04,319 --> 02:49:07,169
Also known as Northern Silicon
Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.

2844
02:49:07,169 --> 02:49:07,319
We'll

2845
02:49:07,320 --> 02:49:10,860
be back on Sunday right here on
no agenda

2846
02:49:16,290 --> 02:49:27,150
don't laugh why you're laughing?
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