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We were both criss crossing
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global Clinton initiative. But I
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same place at the same time
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often how it is during un week.

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That sounds like a horrible
life. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak. December 5 2013 Time for
your gizmo nation media

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assassination episode 571.

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This is no agenda

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celebrating sins and the black
beads from FEMA Region six here

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in Austin, Texas in the morning,
everybody. I'm currently

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from Northern Silicon Valley
plain and simple FEMA Region

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nine I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg
Levin Buzzkill.

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Asked right December 5. Tonight
the good synth comes with this

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black pizza in the Netherlands
and get more lowlands and brings

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all the children presents and
put them in in their wooden

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shoes. Know what their wooden
shoe you have to put your shoes

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outside you see

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this the last time a Dutchman
wore a wooden shoe

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oh this Dutch farmers still wear
them all the time so the cows

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don't step by the cow steps on
your feet then doesn't hurt no

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one wants you just get like
industrial boots you know the

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kinds of we have steel toes

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the tourists don't like looking
at that. Are you kidding me? Be

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realistic for a minute here.

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So the so so it is often a good
start. Yeah. Bratton has been

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rehired as chief of police in
New York. Can you believe that?

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And I I care why?

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You don't remember this guy.
He's just a tough guy to crack

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down on crime. He's the one to
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landscape. Oh, the guy that
Giuliani brought and he's the

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guy who made the difference is
the guy that was hired to clean

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up Los Angeles Yeah,

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this is the guy that got all the
took the squeegee guys and

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dumped them in Ricci guy guy in
the East River. Wherever we have

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we still don't know where the
squeegee guys went and they're

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all dead. Yeah.

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Okay, apparently the stop and
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it's not quite back on but it's
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apparently brat knows how to do
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Could you please come over here

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so this super liberal lefty
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they get in there and they did
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they're actually more fascistic
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earlier. And and I'll bring to
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which is the Obama the mean
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I was wondering where you were
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as President Obama continued a
recent tradition of granting a

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presidential pardon to the
holiday birth of Thanksgiving

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critics pointed out he's shown
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deserving clemency. During his
presidency, Obama has pardoned

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10 turkeys while he's pardoned
or commuted the sentences of

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only 39 people the fewest
burdens of any modern precedent.

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The turkeys Carmel and popcorn
were granted reprieve at a

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ceremony at the White House on
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Now before these turkeys get
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me, I want to grant popcorn a
full reprieve. Come on. All for

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free from cranberry sauce. We
wish you well.

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President Obama has pardoned two
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past five years in both 2009 and
2012. He pardoned more turkeys

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than people. Overall, Obama has
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people. At the same point in his
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pardoned 313 People Harry Truman
pardoned 1537 people. According

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to an analysis last year by
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applications for pardons
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Department. Obama's granted
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applicants. To talk more about
this we're joined by Anthony

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Papa, artist writer noted
advocate against the war on

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drugs. He served 12 years in
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nonviolent drug offence he was
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executive clemency by the New
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Alright, so what are you saying
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Guy's a mean bastard. Here's the
other thing. What is it? How

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come nobody's called him out on
this? He is mocking the Catholic

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Church when He pardons the
turkey. Why is that? He does the

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sign of the cross in front of
the burro. It was the Pope.

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Well, you know, it's funny
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that or even read any articles
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And by the way, is this a
leftover? reclip you had this

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like Thanksgiving leftovers
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and yes a clip that I didn't get
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right after Thanksgiving but
it's still department thing

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doesn't change. He's still not
pardoning anybody. All these you

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know he's a big liberal about
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shouldn't be criminalised. And
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people all over the country that
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they had a joint in their pocket

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Wow man what side of the bed
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I'm just telling you I got out
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spreadsheet decided oh that side
yeah, that side of the bed not

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good.

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Let me go back for a second to
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I'm not quite I can't quite
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are now but I'd like to go back
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conversation that that was
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some consultant who has gone to
heaven and some grumpy woman and

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grumpy woman who happen to have
United Nations letterhead

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stationery laying around right
that woman so in the

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Netherlands, of course this is
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anymore. It's done that the
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next 10 years or so we might
change of a rainbow peed or

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whatever happens

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on the fifth? On the

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fifth? I think it's I don't know
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of the fourth actually. So it
would have been last night. Pete

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flies around, sent flies around
with his white horse and he's on

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the horse and he's Yeah, cuz he
can you know hop on the

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rooftops. But if the black pea
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and they put presents into the
kids wouldn't choose?

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Are they black? Because they
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I don't really don't want to go
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conversation again. But no,
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been it's been going that way
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it because they're black that
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Because who's gonna notice the
sun? Yes.

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That sounds right. So this this
is going on? Terrible. Well, not

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so hidden witness a member of
parliament in Nova Scotia, your

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hamstrings. And your home was
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was raised at least for a couple
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And of course he is a kid you
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like Sandy Claus. So recently,
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he was visiting a family in the
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you take a picture with Santa.
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the black Pete's and Nova Scotia
freaks out. They're like, all

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you racist. We can't believe you
did this. He had to apologise in

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Canada. Yes. And he had to
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He's crying.

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Cry, thank God

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that that whole blackface
culture has there is no place

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for that in Nova Scotia nor in
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car culture. This is just the
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cry later

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as well. And the intent behind
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intent whatsoever. This is a
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tradition that I grew up with
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deepest heart ever thought that
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manner. Now looking back at it,
I guess I can see how the

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blackface prostrate is
unacceptable he's about he's

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about to turn on his culture
today's watch him watch him go

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this is how politicians are
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his budget or turn on his Ultra
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against his own culture,

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today's society and I think
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finding that solution.

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I would have you what for you
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between looking at this as you
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background and but then also,
obviously this new role for you

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as a politician and what maybe
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politician? How does that

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balance All right, so this is
this is the big question. And

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this is this guy's political
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Everything hangs on this one
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I'll be honest, been incredibly
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sign up for this. This is my I
did this because I wanted to

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better Nova Scotia. Finding that
balance between sorry guys, I'm

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really sorry. I sat on the black
man's lap finding that balance

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between an MLA and, and and
being at your constraint because

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I feel that that's gone. I truly
do. My childhood has been stolen

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from me and bent. So I have to
be respectful that I represent

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every culture and no longer your
strike. That I'm okay with that

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because that's what I signed up
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um you know what bullshit just
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he's like,

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like those two idiots senators
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Republican nomination for the EU
they weren't senators they were

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running for Senate the US Senate
and clue and in the situation

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where they put a was an easy
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talks about legitimate rape.

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that was the other one had some
similar stupidity that he

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blurted out because he was just
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politician if you're not going
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be a complete a Ebola. Yeah,
like Martin Bashir

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Oh, he, he quit.

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He was fired, although he chose
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to resign that, you know, I,
this is another thing. It's

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like, this is such a non story
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only place we know this guy from
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Jackson. That was his claim to
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right. And so and then he made a
comparison to slaves getting

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defecated in their face. And
that that someone should do

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I do have the entire clip for
people who want it just for

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reference and I think is
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the guy is worse it's worse than
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it's kind of been heightened to
death by by back and all those

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guys this isn't something

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that who cares about back is not
even that he was beat he there's

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the other side of the aisles is
going nuts to it. This is one of

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the actually I should I should
say this that for just before we

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we do a donation segment,
because if you'd look up Comcast

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Bashir, you see both sides is
not just back, it's the other

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side is the daily cost. Oh, it
was so unfair. A man can't

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express himself anymore. And
that and the leftist is

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defending him and what he said
and the women's groups aren't

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saying anything about it even
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that's that's it now I'm going
to agree with you there the fact

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that not a single solid you know
what, screw we got to play this

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year, right? Because this this
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something that this is violence
against women and by the way

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beyond violence beyond one
subtext. violence and violence

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but the war against the word
slavery.

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Yeah, that too. Well, there's
there's three sub tests. There's

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the war against men in general,
which kind of flows into women's

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groups. I mean, the fact that no
one not as far as I know, not a

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single women advocacy group came
to the to Sarah Palin side shows

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you how to faced these women.
women's groups are two faced

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liars and cheap shits. Yeah, we
should play that. And

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we end this week in the way it
began. With America's resident

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dunce, Sarah Palin, scraping the
barrel of her long, diseased

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mind, and using her all time
favourite analogy, in an attempt

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to sound intelligent about the
national debt. Our free

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stuff today is being paid for by
taking money from our children

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and borrowing from China. When
that note comes due. In this

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isn't racist, so yeah, try it.
Try it anyway. This isn't

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racist, but it's gonna be like
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All right, I gotta stop for a
second hear what she just said,

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there. He is, by the way insane.
It makes no sense. Well, we're

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gonna be enslaved to

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Congress, she doesn't bring any
of this up. What bothers me

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about these comments is that
most of the debt is sold to the

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Third, the Fed owns 30% of the
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And oh, man of money that
Chinese owe us is it's in the A

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trillion or so. But it's not a
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deal. Japan, Japan has more I
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whatever the case is, this is
nonsense. This is just jingoism.

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It's just kind of well, like
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the Chinese the Chinese, which
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some good stuff today. Yeah, but
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based on some facts and not this
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audience with this bogus crap,
but that's okay. Yeah. And

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know, I read her book. I've

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always defended Sarah Palin, but
this is idiotic. And the way she

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says it, I have to admit it
sounds very patronising

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and when what's here so it's
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bothers me about her. She
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could have taken some voice
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speaking. How about how about
salting? Yeah, he sounds worse.

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How about some consulting from
the curry Devorah consultancy

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help this week? That when that
bill comes due this I say it's

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here when that

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fear is off the rails He's
always been off the rails. He's

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just like Ed Schultz and these
other guys. MSNBC has become an

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embarrassment to Comcast. I'm so
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I'm so happy you're doing this
because this allows me to play

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MSNBC clips today as well.

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It'll be like slavery. Given her
well established reputation as a

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world class, idiot, it's hardly
surprising that she should

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choose to mention slavery in a
way that is abominable,

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abominable ball. You can't even
say the word anyone who knows

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anything about its barbaric
history. So here's an example.

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One of the most comprehensive
first person accounts of slavery

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comes from the personal diary of
a man called Thomas this word,

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who kept copious notes for 39
years. This word was the son of

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a tenant farmer who arrived on
the island of Jamaica in April

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1750. And assumed the position
of overseer at a major

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plantation. Do you

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do you think that he knew this
story and was like, Oh, I got a

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great idea or do the research
this or Oh, no,

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no, somebody in the staff? Yeah,
he didn't somebody on the staff

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read the book. Now I want to
talk about a little just a just

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a couple of notes on this book
after he's done with his

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diatribe.

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What is most shocking about
Cicero Woods diary is not simply

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the fact that he assumes the
right to own and possess other

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human beings, but his the sheer
cruelty and brutality of his

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regime. In 1756, he records that
a slave named Darby catched

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eating Keynes had him well
flogged and pickled, then made

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Hector another slave Shi T in
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davon, a

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second S H. I, O,

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his dose of punishment invented
by this a word that spoke only

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of the slave owners Savage, and
inhumanity. And he mentions a

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similar incident again, in 1756.
This time, in relation to a man

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he refers to as punch, flogged,
punch well, and then washed and

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rubbed salt, pickle, lime juice,
and Byrd pepper made Negro Joe

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piss in his eyes and mouth. I
could go on, but you get the

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point. When Mrs. Palin invokes
slavery, she doesn't just prove

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her rank ignorance, she confirms
that if anyone truly qualified

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for a dose of discipline from
Thomas this award, then she

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would be the outstanding
candidate. Thanks so much for

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watching. And she'll says next,

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just before you get into the
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all, he's you know, he didn't
actually say someone should shut

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her mouth. And second of all,
Bernie Eccleston of Formula One

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pays good money for that
treatment. So I don't understand

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what the real problem is this
high.

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Okay, so let's take a look at
that. First of all this wood is,

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was a Jamaican slave holder, and
the Jamaican operations were a

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lot different than they were in
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was no real oversight
whatsoever. And these guys got

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away with everything. And the
guy was notorious. sadist is a

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sadist and a pervert, and who
had slaves, which is you know, a

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good example of why, you know,
this institution was bad from

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the get go. They, the University
of North Carolina printed his

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diaries, which included this,
these these incidents, which

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were disgusting, but the bring
this up at all seems to me to be

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something of a stretch because
the deed she just used the word

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slavery, and they do what he's
implying what I think a bigger

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picture is again, the word war
in the word slavery, because

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there's an implication here that
you can't say, oh, I'm a wage

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slave. No, no, that's racist,
because you're now comparing to

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the to the slave the horrible
slave business where they

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crapped in each other's mouths,
back in the 1700s. And this is

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like this was a this is the kind
of crazy analysis that we get

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from these net from these
channels, these networks and

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MSNBC being the worst of it. And
I believe that Comcast is, I

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think this is the end of it. I
think that I think Comcast is

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fed up with this crap. This guy
is not even the worst of the

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group that Ed Schultz is the
worst and they moved him to

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weekends only. And he's going to
be out shortly. This whole

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operation may just shut down or
go into some sort of competitive

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news organisation similar to CNN
and die that way.

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Well, you kind of you're almost
forcing me into MSNBC stuff now.

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Well, you're for

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God willing, I am just all by
the way, if you want if you

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want. I do have the mark. Just
if you want to do a segue, I do

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have the instance there Martin
Bashir.

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I really I really, really,
really don't care. I don't

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understand why as

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you were, I care for good
entertainment. This guy

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apologising is hilarious, but

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you know what sides were giving
him more as audience for the

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apology. Just because I Need
some data? No

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no no You got no you're right
giving him more audiences bad so

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I never did go on to your
miserable clips.

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I'm afraid now. No I have to
take you out I have to I have to

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bring you back to reality. Hello
let's go to C span which I was

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watching instead of watching
reruns of MSNBC reruns of a

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something that only back and
Limbaugh talk about You surprise

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me with this actually surprise
me. This is three weeks old.

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I hate this guy. Oh, okay.

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Well, Representative Duncan
Hunter. He's from FEMA Region

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nine he's in California he's a
republican and he and he made

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the mistake of going on that
live C span talk show in the

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morning with a kind of cute girl
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there's actually two cute girl
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well there you go that one and
it's an it's a live show you can

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call in on the Democratic line
the Republican line or the

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independent line and this show
as a politician you should never

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ever go on the show. But of
course I'm sad once again that

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not a single solitary no agenda
listener calls it you can sit

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you can call it on the show and
say anything you want to these

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people

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I know and it's pisses me off
that no one no agenda listener

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Don't you know makes me it makes
it a no agenda listeners listen

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to C span and they refuse to
they don't care.

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They don't care about promoting
our show. They just don't care.

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And I get a million emails of
this must be a no agenda

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listener. But no one has ever
actually doing the work.

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Williams up first in Athens,
Ohio, democratic CALLER HI,

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William.

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By the way, great trick calling
on the Democrat line. That's

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that's the way it will you roll
democratic caller Hello,

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William.

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Hi. Congressman. The evidence
that the World Trade Centre

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building seven was brought down
with explosives on 911 is real

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improvement.

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You had me I really liked the
way it gets to the point

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immediately.

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That'd be a real improvement.

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And more and more people are
waking up to it every day. How

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much more trustworthy American
public does Congress have to

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lose before it faces reality and
acknowledges the need for a new

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investigation into building
sevens disruption.

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Now, John, you are without a
doubt somewhat sceptical. But

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when it comes to the World Trade
Centre seven, you feel this is a

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huge issue as well. How would
you advise the congressman from

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California to answer this
question?

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Well, generally speaking, I've
watched I've watched this show

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quite often. And generally
speaking, the host of the show

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cuts off the conversation right
there. Oh, and I have we've had

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we've played clips from the show
as well, I'm sorry. But we're

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not going to discuss that
because we're jumping about.

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I don't think the girls ever cut
cut the collars off. In fact,

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she she,

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one of I can guy can dig up a
clip where one of the girls cut

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the collar off. I

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believe it? Well, he's going to
answer this question in probably

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the worst possible way.

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I don't think it needs any more
investigation. I don't I don't

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think that I think the way that
those towers were brought down

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by radical Islamic terrorist,
and that's the way it is. And I

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think every investigation has
shown that so far.

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And then she asked me is this
douche bag? And she asked a

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great follow up to read the 911
investigation by the committee.

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No. Richard, yeah, it's great.
Wait, no, it's great.

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Inadequate, but I didn't read
it. Vote this person out people

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in California this guy, what is
his name? Duncan Hunter,

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Republican of California have
another clip by this guy. And

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he's unbelievable. He is this
again, Republican from

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California. This and he may be
one he may be one of the

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freshmen one of the new guys, I
think is when he talks like

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this. Well, wait until you hear
him talk about it. When he gets

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into this next question.

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I was gonna have you respond to
that Goshi ating in a religious

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way.

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This is about Iran and
negotiations with Iran, which of

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course, as a true Republican,
he's going to be against

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because, you know, because
they're lying sacks of shit

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there.

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I think that he is right, to a
great extent. And it's not like

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we're making this up. The
Iranians have have said over and

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over where the great Satan where
the great evil are gonna wipe

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Israel off of the face of the
earth.

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Okay, hold on. Can we get the
find the clips, the Iranians

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apparently said, We're the great
Satan. We are the great evil or

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does he mean America? It's
confusing because it's

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in the Middle Eastern culture.
It is looked upon with very high

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regard to get the best deal
possible no matter what it

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takes. And that includes lying.
That's That's one reason that

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these gold states like to work
with you, the United States,

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because we're honest and
transparent. And we have, we

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have laws that we have to live
by. Even in the business world.

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They liked doing business with
us as opposed to their partners,

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or even the Communist Chinese to
some extent because they liked

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doing business with people that
are honest and open and

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transparent and forthright.

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He's basically about to say that
everybody in the world is a liar

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and a cheater in all countries,
especially those those a RABs

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and maybe even dem Jews, if you
listen to what he's saying,

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they're liars. All they want is
the best deal only. We want the

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best deal possible. And everyone
likes to work with us because

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we're suckers, because we're
honest engines. So

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so that is that is a, I would
say, an underpinning to these

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negotiations once once again, if
you're willing to blow yourself

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up and commit suicide.

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Again, this is a too much talk
radio. This guy isn't in 50th

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District of California, which is
kind of east of San Diego is not

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along the coast. It's an
Escondido. Temecula is the

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northernmost part in El Cajon is
the southernmost part of the

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rest of it. It's just a bunch of
woodlands,

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it gets better people,

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you are not a rational person.
And that's who you're dealing

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with when you're dealing with
the Iranians. Are you saying all

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Middle East countries are this
way?

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She's getting good by the way.
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she's she's into it. I'm

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really enjoying what she does.
It was such a

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that's why she did that question
about an hour's horse. He's

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trying to bring this guy down
and it's working and he deserves

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it willing

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to lie in negotiations.

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It is part of the Middle Eastern
culture. The best deal you you

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liars when you're arguing
whether you're at the

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marketplace or arguing over
buying vegetables or buying

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shoes in the marketplace, to do
anything that you can to get the

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best deal. Yeah, that's that's
that's part of Middle Eastern

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culture. Yep, whatever it is, I
like to barter. What evidence do

451
00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:40,860
you have going into the store
here you know into a Vons or

452
00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:43,740
Safeway and trying to barter for
your food but they still do that

453
00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:45,990
in the Middle East and they try
to get the best deals basters

454
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:48,150
at trying to get a good deal
where do we just you know we

455
00:26:48,150 --> 00:26:51,240
play by the rules we look at the
price tag we pay for the shop,

456
00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:56,220
which is a patently untrue by
the way, Mickey gets deals

457
00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:59,640
everywhere. Middle Eastern liar
that she is

458
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,090
shopper will use a rose whatever
he or she has to in order to

459
00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:05,640
sell something and people barter
back and forth and try to get

460
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,010
the best deal for each other.
And I think Iran is the epitome

461
00:27:08,010 --> 00:27:11,490
of that because they have lied
over and over and over. They are

462
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:15,960
liars. Governments lie all the
time.

463
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:19,290
He's just digging deeper. Good
liars. They're liars.

464
00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:22,470
I asked why trust them now?

465
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:25,020
Are you speaking from personal
experience talking about all

466
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:25,590
Middle East?

467
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:27,930
From personal experience? What
was true I would say not

468
00:27:27,930 --> 00:27:30,540
necessarily all all Middle
Eastern. I know that's that's a

469
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,040
big generalisation. Oh,

470
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:34,740
because he's thinking oh crap,
did I just say Israel to with

471
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:37,680
that? Oh, man, I'm a doe. Not
all not not not all.

472
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,830
They do business different than
we do business in the West. They

473
00:27:40,830 --> 00:27:43,170
have they have markets, they
like to barter, and they

474
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,830
could do whatever they like
camels that he should have seen.

475
00:27:47,610 --> 00:27:48,630
The camel reference

476
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:53,370
violence. And so if she's ever
if he's ever been to the Middle

477
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:53,670
East,

478
00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:57,120
he's never been ever he's never
been you know, he's never been

479
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,680
he's this guy is the lie

480
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,820
he can and say whatever they can
to get the best deal. Yeah,

481
00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:03,420
absolutely.

482
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,370
Absolutely fact. So, people in
California, if you have an

483
00:28:08,370 --> 00:28:10,770
opportunity, you need to vote
this guy out. We just have to

484
00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:13,980
start calling idiots out and you
need to vote them out. If you

485
00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:18,060
want any kind of change ever in
your life, which you're still if

486
00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:20,760
you're my age, you're not going
to see any real change before

487
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,420
you die anyway, but you might as
well give your kids a chance

488
00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:27,810
to speak and it just looks so
full of themselves.

489
00:28:28,379 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaking of changing it's
another instalment a dove with

490
00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:36,359
the ah yes, I

491
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,080
tried it out John. I tried my
line about we don't want these

492
00:28:40,110 --> 00:28:45,840
these douchebags at 23 me to be
the Twitter of of our genome.

493
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:56,910
And I got actually I threw some
emotion into it. Why? Because I

494
00:28:56,910 --> 00:28:59,100
was met with a wall of silence.

495
00:29:00,270 --> 00:29:02,880
Oh, well, let's see. Let's set
the do the setup. Give us a

496
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,420
setup get first degree introduce
us to the dinner. Okay. And then

497
00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:07,170
let's get into it.

498
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,500
And by the way, the dinner.
There was Lori's house. This

499
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:16,290
time she made Koco man, which
was a long time on our list. And

500
00:29:16,290 --> 00:29:21,570
I have to say she did a or COC
is great. You got a great COC

501
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,550
really loved it. So it was you
know the the artist and her and

502
00:29:26,550 --> 00:29:27,870
her husband and the

503
00:29:28,530 --> 00:29:30,840
youth she cooked a rooster you
telling me? Yeah,

504
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:35,280
exactly. The cargo van. The
rooster in wine. It was it was

505
00:29:35,310 --> 00:29:37,770
no it was it was a great dinner
and we talked about a whole

506
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:40,050
bunch of stuff. And then it came
out because they were all like

507
00:29:40,050 --> 00:29:42,300
anticipating that was really I
think I'll just hold them back

508
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:46,200
and like I was tired to Sunday
after the show, you know? So it

509
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,430
can be it's very dangerous. They
were anticipating watch to me to

510
00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:54,690
start saying sounds stupid now
about how it's so great. The FDA

511
00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:57,240
shutdown 23 And me and I saw

512
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,970
it differently. And I
anticipated this conversation

513
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,700
Yeah, yeah. Last thing I didn't
anticipate.

514
00:30:03,090 --> 00:30:05,940
No, they in fact, there was
emails before the dinner like,

515
00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:11,850
ooh, we're ready for it. Oh,
yeah. Okay. And they take I

516
00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:14,190
think they're taking some
offence to the robot thing at

517
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:15,120
this point actually.

518
00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:16,530
Oh, why?

519
00:30:16,890 --> 00:30:21,030
Don't know, Mickey email out.
Hey, next OB dinner is in our

520
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:26,100
house and in the subject line.
I'm like, okay and one of them

521
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,520
goes like Hey, I just noticed
you put OB in your calling I did

522
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,810
these dinners OB now

523
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,570
Okay, anyway, like Don't say
like Obama anymore?

524
00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:44,160
I don't know. That's what I'd
ask. But he's What's wrong with

525
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,770
being called an Obama bot.
You're just you're a loyal

526
00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:47,940
follower of Isaac.

527
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,790
I also explained to them I said,
You're my friends. Your Obama

528
00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:53,730
bots, Obama. tardes is something
completely different. That's,

529
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,730
that's bad. That's bad. Yeah,
you're not that you my friends.

530
00:30:57,630 --> 00:31:00,360
Anyway, so we got into it a
little bit. And I was met with

531
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,140
silence. I'm like, don't you
understand that? We've we've

532
00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:06,420
seen this movie before.

533
00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:09,090
Is you say that to be met with
silence.

534
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,500
I said, I said, I said, I'm not
against genetic testing. I said,

535
00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:18,630
The problem I have is with
Silicon Valley companies taking

536
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,580
our data and turning it into a
walled garden for their own

537
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:28,890
profit, just like so. You know,
saying that 23andme democratises

538
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:31,470
health care. It's like saying
Twitter and Facebook,

539
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:36,300
democratise freedom of speech,
which is just not true. It's

540
00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:39,060
like the analogy Yeah. Would
probably stun the artists that

541
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:41,310
were stuck in. Oh, my God, what
are you gonna do?

542
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:44,100
They were stunned, but they
didn't quite get it. And but

543
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:47,580
here's here's, and I got
emotional. I'm like, because I

544
00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:52,830
was also tired. I was tired.
Like, you can't allow this to go

545
00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:56,130
any further. Yeah, but you know,
it's simple. We need companies

546
00:31:56,130 --> 00:31:58,740
to do these things, is it not?
If there's a market for people

547
00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:01,290
who want genetic testing, the
the price will come down and

548
00:32:01,290 --> 00:32:03,750
give us our own data? Do you
have to do these things in open

549
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:07,800
source? You have to decentralise
things. We have to decentralise

550
00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:11,550
our social networks. We have to
decentralise our money. This is

551
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:14,760
the worst thing no one sees it
well, the people who listen to

552
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,920
no agenda, see it, they
understand that the

553
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,480
centralization of money through
electronics is it is horrible.

554
00:32:21,510 --> 00:32:24,780
It is that is slavery, which you
know, of course not supposed to

555
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,990
use the word slave anymore. But
that is that is true slavery,

556
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:31,530
where you don't control your own
money isn't the same thing with

557
00:32:31,530 --> 00:32:34,740
this. You can't trust these
guys. And they're gonna they're

558
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:37,260
gonna use your data against you.
And then they get bought and

559
00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:40,320
it's gotten to you. We've done
this before. No more cheat

560
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,110
mirrors and trinkets and getting
something you think something of

561
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:47,220
value, you're not getting the
value. Anyway. So this went on

562
00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:50,130
for a while. And yeah, so at the
dinner and it was a beautiful

563
00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:52,140
dinner and we talked about other
things. It was great. But then

564
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:56,460
the next day, the professor who
would you know, he's the senior

565
00:32:56,460 --> 00:33:00,780
brain professor here at UT.
Neurology. He's the golden boy

566
00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:05,370
of the University of Texas. He
sends me an email says you know

567
00:33:05,370 --> 00:33:09,810
what? You inspired me with your
with your little soliloquy, and

568
00:33:09,810 --> 00:33:15,810
I'm off of Mac OSX I'm
installing Linux. I like that I

569
00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:17,520
like okay, it's kind of a jump

570
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,690
a leap but okay, I

571
00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:21,240
think that's fantastic. Well,
no, because that's part of part

572
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,650
of the conversation is we have
to use Apple is going to is

573
00:33:25,650 --> 00:33:30,090
totally screwing up Mac. He
actually had a good line to the

574
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:33,990
iOS ification of OSX. Which I
totally agree with.

575
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Well, yeah, well look at what
Windows is doing. Windows is the

576
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,530
is the phone ification of the
desktop machine. Yeah, I want a

577
00:33:43,530 --> 00:33:47,190
phone operating system on my
desktop with a big giant

578
00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:51,540
array, you'll take that and
you're like it with those big

579
00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:55,290
tiles. It's for you put on your
glasses, big tiles like but

580
00:33:55,290 --> 00:34:00,060
exactly. So he installed What do
you say installed? I have to

581
00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:04,560
look up which Which flavour he
installed. And I was like, okay,

582
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,070
so So I want this that's a
little ding in the armour. I

583
00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:11,130
think that's fancy. Hey, you
know what if he does it, his

584
00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:13,860
grad students will do it and
before you know it starts to

585
00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:14,340
spread.

586
00:34:15,449 --> 00:34:17,459
Yeah, they need to use
Photoshop.

587
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:22,590
No one needs to use Photoshop
the way you do John.

588
00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:27,810
Well, be that it is me but not
you mentioned that the

589
00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:32,460
decentralisation we Maya jumped
to the next topic in a row to go

590
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:35,820
in as you're jumping from thing
to thing. Go to better than

591
00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:39,930
cash.org and look at the
founders. Okay,

592
00:34:39,929 --> 00:34:48,089
better than cash not or. This
doesn't sound good. Better than

593
00:34:48,089 --> 00:34:51,749
cash. Is this a boy

594
00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:54,450
worldwide initiative to get us
off of cash My

595
00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:59,670
goodness accelerating the shift
to digital payments. Wow. To

596
00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:05,400
who? Oh, oh founders Bill and
Melinda Gates, Citigroup, US AI

597
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,650
D. O. It's a rotating banner, un
cdf, which is the microfinance

598
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:17,670
capital O Omidyar Network. Visa.
Oh my goodness, the Ford

599
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:21,060
Foundation that one of the just
call better than cash. It's the

600
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:25,230
new world order.org. That would
be easier to remember. What's a

601
00:35:25,230 --> 00:35:28,140
good website? This is not a
great website

602
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:32,249
latest yet all these people that
are natives that are let's get

603
00:35:32,249 --> 00:35:35,369
rid of cash, because, you know,
of course, I always like to

604
00:35:35,459 --> 00:35:41,429
think just for starters, think
of a think of a $10 bill at the

605
00:35:41,429 --> 00:35:42,179
flea market.

606
00:35:42,809 --> 00:35:45,989
Right and a $10 bill about the
Austin market at the farmers

607
00:35:45,989 --> 00:35:46,919
market not okay, that's

608
00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:51,899
a $10. Bill. I take my $10 and I
buy some chicken from the

609
00:35:51,899 --> 00:35:54,299
chicken guy and I give him $10 I
take the chicken,

610
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:56,130
you get $2 change in Austin.

611
00:35:56,849 --> 00:36:00,179
Well, no, we're gonna do this
round numbers. Okay. So now I

612
00:36:00,179 --> 00:36:03,329
take the chicken, he takes the
$10 bill and goes by some spices

613
00:36:03,329 --> 00:36:05,849
with somebody else at $10. It
goes the other guy. And then the

614
00:36:05,849 --> 00:36:09,419
$10 floats around the farmer's
market buying stuff. Sometimes

615
00:36:09,419 --> 00:36:12,809
taxes involved. Sometimes it's
not whatever the case is the $10

616
00:36:12,809 --> 00:36:16,379
stays intact. At the end of the
day, when you don't have cash.

617
00:36:16,529 --> 00:36:20,189
Every one of these little
transactions cost is 2% out of

618
00:36:20,189 --> 00:36:24,419
the $10. So pretty soon it's
like you know, versus two cents

619
00:36:24,419 --> 00:36:28,199
and 20 cents says two bucks.
After the $10 bill goes around

620
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:32,789
and all this all the real money
that's gone. It's gone. It now

621
00:36:32,789 --> 00:36:38,759
belongs to Visa and MasterCard
and these other douchebags how

622
00:36:38,759 --> 00:36:39,899
is this good?

623
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,670
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's
really, really pathetic. And

624
00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:48,330
people just, there's no
education of what's good. There

625
00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:50,820
were a couple of I think maybe
wasn't maybe three, four years

626
00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:54,870
ago, we talked about these
videos that were floating around

627
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:57,000
the net that kind of went viral
that showed you how money

628
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,640
worked. And then it was kind of
like a big conveyor belt. And

629
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000
then it always be like one human
resource per minute that would

630
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,660
fall off into like the meat
grinder. Because that's how it

631
00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:12,720
works with the digital money.
It's totally, it's so wrong.

632
00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:18,210
It's so incredibly wrong. And
particularly this microfinance

633
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:22,710
business, which is what Pierre
Omidyar the Omidyar Network is

634
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:25,410
involved in we I think we talked
about this one or two shows ago.

635
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,850
Yes. It's the microfinance that
they've put into Haiti as well.

636
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,780
It's not good because it's
essentially getting people on

637
00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:37,920
board with a debt programme and
and debt is, well, yeah, it's

638
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,860
the way our it's the way our
economy is built in our system.

639
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:46,620
But it kind of enslaved
everybody. Or,

640
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:50,700
situation for most cultures,
unless you have to be weak we do

641
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:55,230
it well, because United States
is a business oriented, a

642
00:37:55,230 --> 00:38:00,750
mercantile oriented society. The
sociology of works, everything

643
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:04,110
is perfect. We can be in massive
debt, we know how to deal with

644
00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:06,360
it, we know how to, you know,
trick our way out of it. We know

645
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,450
how to leverage we know
everything. And there's people

646
00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:12,540
out there that can just get by
with really no income, and they

647
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,000
just play with money, and they
know how they're how to do it,

648
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,070
right. This is not the case with
some sub Saharan African tribe.

649
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,120
They don't know what the hell's
going on. I mean, this is you,

650
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,760
we take none of this into
account. Well, let's just make

651
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,130
them let's put them in debt. And
see that is how well they're

652
00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:32,340
gonna do. I mean, it's
ridiculous. And then you do it

653
00:38:32,340 --> 00:38:34,830
this way, where you don't even
really in debt, because there's

654
00:38:34,830 --> 00:38:38,400
no money involved. There's a
card, here's a card, it's got

655
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,950
value you when you take it in,
and they watch, what do I do

656
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,410
with this? Where's the magical?
I mean, the whole thing is

657
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:47,970
ridiculous. And to push this
then Gates Foundation, what have

658
00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:51,750
they got to do with this sort of
business? I thought they were

659
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:56,010
trying to do in polio and in
malaria, what is it got to do

660
00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:59,670
with this? I'm asking you, well,

661
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,150
nothing other than that Bill
Gates has a lot of money or a

662
00:39:03,150 --> 00:39:06,060
lot of money on paper.
Therefore, he's very smart.

663
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:09,240
Therefore whatever he says,
which is basically Melinda with

664
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:13,650
his hand up his tight ass is
great. I can't think of any

665
00:39:13,650 --> 00:39:17,400
other thing. Here it is for
founding members of funding

666
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,710
members actually on this better
than cash is how I hope

667
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:27,150
someone's recording a backup of
the show. I just hit record. How

668
00:39:27,150 --> 00:39:30,420
good is that? A guided by the
belief that every life has equal

669
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:32,700
value. The Bill and Melinda
Gates Foundation works to help

670
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,580
all people lead healthy,
productive lives in developing

671
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:37,710
countries that focuses on
improving people's health with

672
00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:41,010
vaccines and other life saving
tools and giving them the chance

673
00:39:41,010 --> 00:39:44,220
to lift themselves out of hunger
and extreme poverty. That's

674
00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:47,700
where your micro Fenske finance
comes in. And then in the United

675
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,830
States, it seeks to
significantly improve education

676
00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:51,840
so all young people have the
opportunity to reach their full

677
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,810
potential like Bill. based in
Seattle, Washington. The

678
00:39:54,810 --> 00:39:58,200
foundation is led by CEO Jeff
Raikes and co chair William H.

679
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,980
Gaines gates senior The
eugenicist under the direction

680
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:05,010
of Bill and Melinda Gates and
Warren Buffett. It didn't even

681
00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:06,510
say anything about the
microfinance

682
00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:13,500
there's a lot of pitches in here
that are kind of interesting,

683
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:17,040
but the whole thing is that it
said Jeff Raikes was in this was

684
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,490
Jeff Raikes he run he runs the
Bill Melinda Gates fellow yet

685
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:23,730
actually retired okay our vision
and goals empower people by

686
00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:26,130
accelerating the shift to
electronic payments

687
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:29,670
there's a video on the on the
homepage of Bill talk in which a

688
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:33,960
punch it up featured video on
the bottom right in the middle

689
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:36,990
so John I literally forgot to
record like the first 10 minutes

690
00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:39,360
of the show and you know why is
because you did a hit it before

691
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,910
I was ready to hit it and I
wasn't ready and I didn't record

692
00:40:42,030 --> 00:40:44,370
Oh, it's my fault. Well, yeah.

693
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:46,980
Okay, where's the video? I don't
see a video

694
00:40:47,010 --> 00:40:51,030
says right here featured video
see resources? Yeah. Now in

695
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:56,010
featured video, did you look at
this? No. I can't can't probably

696
00:40:56,010 --> 00:40:56,880
couldn't handle

697
00:40:57,540 --> 00:41:00,810
it. Hey, we got the punch line.
Why don't you call the NSA for

698
00:41:00,810 --> 00:41:08,730
recording? Oh, Dick. started
slow to start.

699
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:12,180
This is vital. There was there
was a new the new NSA. Well, we

700
00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:13,230
can talk about that later. But

701
00:41:13,890 --> 00:41:17,700
it's these guys are. So here we
go. I'm listening. I don't hear

702
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:18,330
anything. Oh.

703
00:41:20,070 --> 00:41:23,550
Good afternoon. It's great to
see the attendance here. This is

704
00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:28,380
a kind of a new initiative, and
yet already gaining a lot of

705
00:41:28,380 --> 00:41:33,960
momentum. I'm in New York this
week in a broad sense, to

706
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,980
celebrate the good news story
about the incredible progress

707
00:41:38,010 --> 00:41:42,240
against the fight against global
poverty. It's very interesting

708
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,510
because every setback we have in
this is a news headline but the

709
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:50,220
gradual year by your progress
that's led us to achieve em.

710
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:50,640
Okay, you

711
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,060
can kill it. Yeah, this is dumb.
You just killed us yak forever.

712
00:41:54,090 --> 00:41:55,800
Yeah, as the saying nothing.

713
00:41:57,930 --> 00:42:03,840
Well, I can kind of transition
from this into the two central

714
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,770
bankers came out on the same
day, and essentially said the

715
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:12,810
same thing. The former centre
chief of the Central Bank of the

716
00:42:12,810 --> 00:42:16,950
Netherlands, the Netherlands
bank. Now Villa link said, Oh,

717
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:21,420
this Bitcoin. This is nothing
more than tulip mania, except at

718
00:42:21,420 --> 00:42:25,950
the end of the day, you had a
tulip. And I need to say

719
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:26,850
something about that

720
00:42:26,850 --> 00:42:30,510
good line. Well, no. Other
people do this tulip thing that

721
00:42:30,510 --> 00:42:33,150
you know, that's just crazy.
Well, I was interesting that

722
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:35,550
Beanie Babies is something we
all remember

723
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:38,670
I but I want to I did some
research on the tulip thing. And

724
00:42:38,670 --> 00:42:41,310
this it's a little different
than the way we remember it.

725
00:42:44,490 --> 00:42:49,110
There's a book which serve under
helm had some scan pages,

726
00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:52,830
somehow he gave it to me. And it
you know, this comparison,

727
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:57,150
essentially, whenever someone
whenever there's a bubble, they

728
00:42:57,150 --> 00:43:01,290
say, Oh, this like the Dutch
tulip craze. And I think some

729
00:43:01,290 --> 00:43:05,970
history is warranted about the
what that actually was. I mean,

730
00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:09,510
what do you the way you
understand that, John, is, is

731
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:12,630
that the Dutch tulip craze was
just people went crazy about a

732
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:15,120
non product and the bubble
burst. And that was it. I mean,

733
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,230
do you have any new lack

734
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:19,530
are very popular, and they were
being bred to be certain ways

735
00:43:19,530 --> 00:43:22,290
and certain tools became very
valuable. And then there was a

736
00:43:22,290 --> 00:43:25,500
shortage in the market. And then
people began would happen when

737
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:30,000
people began to speculate on the
bulbs. And once that happened,

738
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,750
that, you know, it was it was
doomed, but it was, well that

739
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:35,550
was a was definitely a craze.

740
00:43:36,479 --> 00:43:39,749
So that let me tell you what
actually happened. This was not

741
00:43:39,749 --> 00:43:44,159
so much about the bubble as it
was about the trading that was

742
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:48,029
going on. Now. This is the 1630s
there were hardly there was

743
00:43:48,059 --> 00:43:52,109
there was no CNBC. There were no
newspaper, they had pamphlets,

744
00:43:52,379 --> 00:43:54,689
which are kind of like flyers,
and people would print something

745
00:43:54,689 --> 00:43:58,709
up and hand it out. But what
happened this was the they had

746
00:43:58,709 --> 00:44:01,799
commodities trade in the
Netherlands kind of invented the

747
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:05,789
stock market. And this was a
part of that. Because what

748
00:44:05,789 --> 00:44:09,899
happened with these with these
tulip trades, is people were not

749
00:44:09,899 --> 00:44:13,409
taking possession of the bulb or
the flower just a contract and

750
00:44:13,409 --> 00:44:16,559
that was something that was new.
And by the way, in order to

751
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:19,379
understand the history like
this, you have to get the Dutch

752
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:23,399
texts which I am able to read so
it's kind of unique that I can

753
00:44:23,429 --> 00:44:26,699
explain this to you because I
read through the Dutch copy of

754
00:44:26,729 --> 00:44:31,679
of what really went down so this
was something that was new, is

755
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:34,439
people would buy a tulip and
they would only get a piece of

756
00:44:34,439 --> 00:44:36,959
paper that was you know the bulk
of this.

757
00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:41,400
Yes, by the way I want to
interrupt anytime you have some

758
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,090
new technology that tape or some
new mechanism financial

759
00:44:45,090 --> 00:44:47,520
mechanism that makes it look as
though you can make a lot of

760
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:53,250
money. People jump on it because
they see you bitcoin is probably

761
00:44:53,550 --> 00:44:55,710
I think is a good example. Now
to bring this up.

762
00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:59,970
This part of it is yes, this is
exactly my point. So people were

763
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,630
are in it to make money on the
transaction instead of making

764
00:45:03,630 --> 00:45:07,200
money on the commodity itself.
This is this is where there was

765
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,030
a big difference. Now. There was
a lot of trouble with these

766
00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:14,700
flowers that were hard to
identify. There were a lot of

767
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:21,000
mistakes being made and a lot of
fraud. But in 1936, one of these

768
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,600
pamphlets, again, very few
newspapers, if any floated

769
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,450
rumours that the state was
considering taxing the tools was

770
00:45:27,450 --> 00:45:27,600
in

771
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,450
1830s, or 1630 1636. I'm sorry,
what did I say? You said 1936.

772
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,590
And by the way, if you notice,
what you said was 1936, which is

773
00:45:37,590 --> 00:45:39,450
exactly Yeah, exactly. 400

774
00:45:39,630 --> 00:45:45,180
or 300 years later. Yeah.
Interesting. So 1636, one of

775
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:48,420
these pamphlets floated rumours
the state was considering taxing

776
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:51,570
this trade, because they weren't
really trading or buying

777
00:45:51,570 --> 00:45:54,900
commodities. It was, it was like
a kind of like a transaction tax

778
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:59,700
is what they were looking at, on
February 3 1637, is when the

779
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:03,870
first bad auction took place in
Harlem. And there were

780
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:09,270
essentially no buyers. On
February 24, and Amsterdam,

781
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:11,610
there was a big meeting, all the
traders got together and they

782
00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:15,180
said, Okay, you know what, we've
got to unwind all this, every

783
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:21,030
trade after November 30 of Snite
1636 can be unwound for a 10%

784
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:24,360
fee on on the actual
transaction. Of course, you

785
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,520
know, the big guys didn't really
get hurt, but some of the little

786
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,070
guys got through it. And so it's
kind of kind of like a bailout.

787
00:46:29,970 --> 00:46:34,620
One of the early bailouts. But
why did this happen? And all the

788
00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:40,830
texts say that there is a very
clear parallel of the plague.

789
00:46:40,890 --> 00:46:43,800
The plague, of course, in the
1600s was like, you know, it

790
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:49,980
happened. But the peak of the,
of the tulip mania trade

791
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:55,350
coincided with the peak of the
black plague where 30% of cities

792
00:46:55,350 --> 00:47:01,080
were literally dying. And in
1636, before this, this bad

793
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:07,500
auction 12 or 14 of the big
tulip traders died of the plague

794
00:47:07,770 --> 00:47:10,830
and their kids or their family
or other people within their

795
00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:15,540
organisation took over the
trade. So it's not that crazy to

796
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:20,580
think that when you have like
the backup guy running the trade

797
00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:23,910
or someone who hasn't doesn't
know anything about this trading

798
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:28,170
at all come into this and
there's plague and people are

799
00:47:28,170 --> 00:47:32,670
dying and people you know, it's
a weird time. That is was really

800
00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:35,520
the impetus for this to fall
apart not so much that all of a

801
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,460
sudden people realise that tulip
wasn't worth anything which to

802
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:41,730
this day is not true. A tulip is
definitely worth money just

803
00:47:41,820 --> 00:47:44,910
wasn't worth the kind of money
they were paying for it at the

804
00:47:44,910 --> 00:47:50,910
time. So the the crash really
coincided with the new people

805
00:47:50,910 --> 00:47:55,170
coming in after the plague wiped
out the original traders and

806
00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:59,790
that's the part that is it's
iffy at best to say that there's

807
00:47:59,790 --> 00:48:03,180
a bubble it always pops it
always goes this way it's it's

808
00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:06,090
overvalued. And it's not the
only comparison that's fair, I

809
00:48:06,090 --> 00:48:10,410
think you're right is that it's
a trade based upon the value of

810
00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:13,770
the trade and what you can make
and selling the ownership paper

811
00:48:13,770 --> 00:48:14,760
on instead of the actual

812
00:48:14,819 --> 00:48:18,419
speculation always causes these
issues Exactly. But it's also a

813
00:48:18,419 --> 00:48:22,349
cycle and I think that the tulip
cycle it fell right on one of

814
00:48:22,349 --> 00:48:25,709
the cusps so it would it was the
people were ripe for it because

815
00:48:25,709 --> 00:48:28,079
there's always opportunities to
do these sorts of things but

816
00:48:28,289 --> 00:48:32,429
people have to be in the right
mood to actually do them and by

817
00:48:32,429 --> 00:48:35,399
the way for tourists out there
when you go to Amsterdam and you

818
00:48:35,399 --> 00:48:38,159
want to get some of these days
some cool tulips and also these

819
00:48:38,189 --> 00:48:41,369
giant whatever they're called. I
can't remember the name of them

820
00:48:41,369 --> 00:48:47,219
this big bowl but makes a huge
flower for sale along the water

821
00:48:47,249 --> 00:48:50,939
in a bunch of shops and you can
get some cool tulips but make

822
00:48:50,939 --> 00:48:55,979
sure you go to the shop that has
the the approved for export

823
00:48:56,639 --> 00:49:00,239
tulips and bulbs because
otherwise you won't be able to

824
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,909
get them in the US but if you
get them you get the box with

825
00:49:02,939 --> 00:49:06,869
the bulbs in it that has an all
I could tell the guy goes in the

826
00:49:06,869 --> 00:49:11,729
back puts the bulbs in a box
just takes the box up and puts

827
00:49:11,729 --> 00:49:15,269
the stamp on there's the same
bulbs yeah but it's beside the

828
00:49:15,269 --> 00:49:19,949
point. So I when I came in with
some bulbs from Amsterdam once I

829
00:49:19,949 --> 00:49:24,149
went to customs I specifically
took one of them aside and and

830
00:49:24,149 --> 00:49:28,439
showed him the bulbs and I said
is this did I do this right was

831
00:49:28,439 --> 00:49:30,929
this how you supposed to do she
says yes to many people don't do

832
00:49:30,929 --> 00:49:34,979
that just just make sure you get
the seal and the stamp and then

833
00:49:34,979 --> 00:49:37,199
you you're good to bring
anything in so you because

834
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:39,929
otherwise they don't exactly you
need that you need that they'll

835
00:49:39,929 --> 00:49:42,479
confiscate the bolts and put
them in their own garden.

836
00:49:42,750 --> 00:49:50,250
Here's former Fed Chairman Alan
Greenspan on the same day the

837
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:55,440
same day that this guy says to
at a at a banking conference oh

838
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,680
this bitcoin is nothing.
GREENSPAN says something very

839
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,730
comparable and of course Just as
always with bad news for Bitcoin

840
00:50:02,730 --> 00:50:05,400
the price always goes up. It's a
phenomenal thing that's

841
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,030
happening. Thoughts on this. Did
you hear that? By the way? Can

842
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:15,480
you do what you just did? Wow.
What are your thoughts?

843
00:50:16,529 --> 00:50:17,999
Yeah, it's a little it's like a
yodel.

844
00:50:19,980 --> 00:50:22,710
Thoughts on this is Bitcoin in
fact a bubble?

845
00:50:25,050 --> 00:50:30,780
I guess. So. Let me say that. I
get well, let

846
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:34,110
me let me talk for a little bit
to bore you but okay, to be

847
00:50:34,110 --> 00:50:37,740
exchangeable. Well, he says some
very interesting things here,

848
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:39,810
John, and I want you to catch
him because he said, he's

849
00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:41,670
leaving the door open in a big
way.

850
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,800
currencies to be exchangeable
have to be backed by something.

851
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,420
When we had were on the gold
standard, gold and silver had

852
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:55,770
intrinsic value. And people
would be willing to exchange

853
00:50:55,950 --> 00:51:00,660
their goods and services for
gold or silver. And wouldn't ask

854
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:02,700
any questions of where the
money's came from.

855
00:51:03,390 --> 00:51:08,640
Alternatively, when we went into
currencies, it was the backing

856
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:12,330
of the issuer of the currency.
In other words, if some

857
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,420
individual had great credit,
standing checks could circulate

858
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,150
as money. But the question is,
do

859
00:51:21,150 --> 00:51:24,000
you hear what he's saying? He
says, if some individual had a

860
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,190
lot of money, and yeah, and he
issued paper, his checks, they

861
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:32,880
could be, they could be used as
money. And the first time he

862
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,120
says it, I'm like, okay, but he
keeps bringing this up. I

863
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:40,470
do not understand where the
backing of Bitcoin is coming

864
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:45,630
from. There is no fundamental
issue of capabilities of

865
00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:50,550
repaying anything which is
universally acceptable, which is

866
00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:56,130
either intrinsic value of the
currency, or the credit or trust

867
00:51:56,130 --> 00:51:58,950
of the individual who is issuing
the money.

868
00:51:59,070 --> 00:52:01,260
So he's saying this again, I
think what he's doing here,

869
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:05,970
John, if I just dissect this,
he's saying that if, let's say,

870
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:11,160
I don't know Pierre Omidyar if
Pierre Omidyar released a

871
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,600
cryptocurrency, which was backed
by Pierre Omidyar, that that

872
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,380
would be a valid currency. But
it could be Peter Thiel, it

873
00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:23,010
could be Warren Buffett, it
could be any of his cronies, why

874
00:52:23,010 --> 00:52:26,610
it could be the better than
cash.org people for all we know,

875
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,840
whether it's a government

876
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,480
or an individual. And He says it
again, he keeps saying

877
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,230
individual

878
00:52:32,310 --> 00:52:36,660
individuals with very high net
worth and great reputations

879
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,050
could create their own currency
because people would be willing

880
00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:41,610
to exchange that you

881
00:52:41,610 --> 00:52:44,940
got to put this in the book,
John keys, he's promoting some

882
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:47,550
kind of currency that's coming
out backed by individuals of

883
00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:48,300
great wealth.

884
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:54,360
Well, I mean, it's not different
than it seems to me. It used to

885
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,750
be cheques used to be kind of
like currency, because you could

886
00:52:57,780 --> 00:53:00,000
have third party checks, you
could sign it over to somebody

887
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,890
he'd sign it over, somebody else
have a bunch of names on the

888
00:53:01,890 --> 00:53:04,830
back of the money would float
around as a check. So this is

889
00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:08,070
not really new. And most of the
banks had their own currencies

890
00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:12,660
until the 1800s. That you'd go
to the Bank of South Carolina

891
00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:16,380
would would issue currency which
competed with the local

892
00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:19,890
government could issue currency.
So they actually pass laws

893
00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:22,860
against a lot of this kind of
thing. That's why I think the

894
00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:26,700
rent the Ron Paul coins got
busted, because they were immune

895
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:27,630
to Liberty coin,

896
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:29,010
the Liberty dollar.

897
00:53:30,510 --> 00:53:31,440
But listen to this list.

898
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,330
Let me finish. I don't see how
it's any different than it is

899
00:53:36,330 --> 00:53:41,070
kind of currency when you have
common stock of an individual. I

900
00:53:41,070 --> 00:53:44,940
mean, David Bowie is a public
company. Right? Remember the

901
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,020
public his his publisher, his
published work is a bond.

902
00:53:49,260 --> 00:53:51,780
Okay. It's a bond but that's
that can be passed around like,

903
00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:56,970
yeah, got some value? Yes.
Absolutely not shocked by any

904
00:53:56,970 --> 00:54:01,200
this now. He just keeps saying
individuals as though you know,

905
00:54:01,710 --> 00:54:03,570
Peter Omidyar is going to

906
00:54:04,290 --> 00:54:07,980
Peter print money. He may be
even Pierre Omidyar, you never

907
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:12,780
know. Well, but if you look at
because this I was surprised.

908
00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:17,460
Besides Bitcoin we have Litecoin
Peercoin name coin ya coin Nova

909
00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:22,740
coin prime coin feather coin and
Nona coin court coin. Oh, and a

910
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:26,880
lot of these are VC backed. I
think someone's trying to make a

911
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,970
move. And I think he's in on it
checks

912
00:54:29,970 --> 00:54:33,990
with others probably at par.
Well, is it not the case with

913
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:38,160
Bitcoin not the case of the
Could it be the new gold? Not

914
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,360
really backed by anything?

915
00:54:39,390 --> 00:54:41,370
Is she listening to him at all?

916
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,430
No, she has a list of questions
on the prompter and and she's

917
00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:46,890
someone's yelling in her ear. We
got 110

918
00:54:46,890 --> 00:54:47,160
Isn't

919
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,450
backed by gold is gold. There is
no physical as a physical

920
00:54:51,450 --> 00:54:56,040
product as a physical element in
the in the sitting on my desk.

921
00:54:56,070 --> 00:54:58,590
His answer is no Bitcoin that
can do this.

922
00:54:58,620 --> 00:55:00,750
I think his answers may be
dumber. Then the question

923
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:01,260
actually,

924
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:08,160
no, well see that it has to it
has to have intrinsic value. You

925
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:13,350
have to really stretch your
imagination to infer what the

926
00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:18,210
intrinsic value of that coin is.
I haven't been able to do it.

927
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:26,220
Maybe somebody else can you ask
me, Is this a bubble in Bitcoin?

928
00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:27,480
Yeah, it's a bubble.

929
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,780
It's a bubble. And I ride
nasheed all the way to 10,000.

930
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:39,210
You hope I saw you even use my
10,000 number on

931
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,360
I'm the one who came up with the
10,000 number and told you to

932
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,820
stick to your guns, right? I
don't think that's true, but

933
00:55:44,820 --> 00:55:47,400
that's okay. You're gonna sell
it 1000 You said it doesn't hit.

934
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:50,970
I did not. I said it will be
1000 by the end of the year. I

935
00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:54,450
never said I was going to sell
it at 1000 ever. In fact, I said

936
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,810
I was going to do a daily source
code and I would keep all the

937
00:55:57,810 --> 00:55:59,970
money and keep it transparent.
Everyone can follow my

938
00:55:59,970 --> 00:56:03,420
blockchain and you know how much
money I got for doing a show

939
00:56:04,620 --> 00:56:10,860
like $4 in Bitcoin which proves
to me that either everyone's

940
00:56:10,860 --> 00:56:15,480
lying that they liked the show
possible. Or this is no one's

941
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,240
using these as a as a store of
value.

942
00:56:18,750 --> 00:56:22,680
Horror was dropped a bitcoins
thing on the DHS play. We got

943
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,940
six bucks, so we beat your ass.
Oh, that's and then we kick your

944
00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:27,990
butt. You did

945
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:29,580
six bucks.

946
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,680
So what's wrong with this
picture?

947
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,410
But what's wrong with that
picture of all the yay who's and

948
00:56:34,410 --> 00:56:38,370
I'll call him out who kept going
on oh, you know, I would have I

949
00:56:38,370 --> 00:56:42,360
would give you guys money. This
is we had two kinds of people

950
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,540
that helps contribute to the
show. One of them's that none of

951
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:48,360
them ever do. One of them is
always telling us that if we

952
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:54,420
didn't solicit money, they'd
give us money. Okay, fine. Yeah,

953
00:56:54,420 --> 00:56:58,320
right. And the other one is that
if we put Bitcoin if we took

954
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,570
Bitcoin Yeah, it was money.

955
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,940
Oh, immediately Yeah, would they
be

956
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,360
pouring it we'd be getting
tonnes of money because they're

957
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:10,320
there we were take Bitcoin This
is bull crap.

958
00:57:10,709 --> 00:57:13,889
The problem with Bitcoin at this
point and I saw one of the

959
00:57:14,429 --> 00:57:17,789
people and I'm moving to M BTC
you know, because they the

960
00:57:17,789 --> 00:57:21,329
problem when you get this these
numbers like 1000 in order to

961
00:57:21,329 --> 00:57:24,719
keep the the price going up, you
have to do a stock split. You

962
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:27,959
have to bring it down to where
people think that they can you

963
00:57:27,959 --> 00:57:31,349
know, of course don't please
don't email me about any of what

964
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:34,349
I'm saying. I'm not interested
in your opinion anymore about

965
00:57:34,349 --> 00:57:38,189
Bitcoin just not Yes, I know.
It's the visible blahdy blahdy

966
00:57:38,189 --> 00:57:39,209
blahdy blah

967
00:57:40,350 --> 00:57:42,690
I think there was a smallest
unit as a Sumerian

968
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,500
I really don't I don't I'm not
interested. I'm also not

969
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:49,380
interested in your theories
about Paul Walker's death by the

970
00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:53,160
Illuminati. I'm just not I have
enough of it. No, I haven't.

971
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:53,730
I've enough.

972
00:57:55,050 --> 00:57:57,780
I'm interested in that one.
Okay, I'll be happy

973
00:57:57,780 --> 00:58:01,740
to bring it to you. But we have
you have so the rebranding of

974
00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:05,280
Bitcoin down to M M coin or
whatever, you need a better

975
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,400
name. To that you need to you
need to reverse stock splits so

976
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,950
that people can get in again at
the $1 level. You need a new a

977
00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:18,210
new nominator. Yeah.
denomination, you need a new

978
00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:21,750
thing. And until that happens,
it just is not gonna go

979
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:22,590
stratospheric, if

980
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:25,950
you go 1000 to one split, so you
have to become a that's, that's

981
00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:26,910
the nbtc

982
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:31,740
but they don't want the name is
it's a small m big B big T Big C

983
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,640
in the middle. Oh, this isn't
gonna go away.

984
00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:41,160
Once but you know what? One
thing that will never change. Is

985
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,230
that I want to thank you for
your courage and say in the

986
00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:45,090
morning to you John C. Dvorak.

987
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:48,810
Well, I was about time in the
morning to you Adam curry in the

988
00:58:48,810 --> 00:58:50,970
morning all ships to see boots
on the ground feet in the air

989
00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:53,160
subs in the water all the days
and nights out there.

990
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:57,330
And thank you very much Martin.
JJ. He sent me an email he says

991
00:58:57,330 --> 00:59:00,960
no worries got your ass covered.
I've got the recording of the

992
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,420
first bit of the show. No
worries. Thank you so much.

993
00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:06,120
That's it's funny. For all the
people

994
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,700
in the JJ artists doing
recording the show.

995
00:59:08,910 --> 00:59:15,300
Martin JJ he's like a backup
parachute. Know the one that in

996
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:16,200
the little bundle?

997
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,290
That when I got to meet him
once? Oh, really? I haven't met

998
00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:22,110
him. I don't think he was up at
the twit cottage.

999
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,400
Oh, really? Yeah. What does he
do? Artists.

1000
00:59:26,970 --> 00:59:27,750
It's an artist.

1001
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,380
Now it was not Martin. JJ, who
we want to thank for the

1002
00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:35,220
previous shows artwork that was
guessing no, I'm

1003
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:38,700
sorry. I met Nick Duran. That's
what I thought. Yeah, I'm sorry.

1004
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:38,880
Yeah,

1005
00:59:38,910 --> 00:59:39,660
we know about him.

1006
00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:42,300
I've met the same first it's not
I've

1007
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:44,820
met Nick. I met Nick and Nick in
New Jersey. Nick's a great guy.

1008
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,730
So guesses gissy Symone. And
unheard of artist I didn't we

1009
00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:54,450
pull something from the from the
evergreens for

1010
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:58,680
evergreen and then I guess she
removed it or put it up into the

1011
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,920
regular part which was Not
necessary. We do look at the

1012
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,190
Evergreen Zoo. Yes. If people
come up with some crazy idea and

1013
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:08,190
they just throw it in the
evergreens we have one time we

1014
01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:11,610
ply believe we ploughed through
all the evergreens and to come

1015
01:00:11,610 --> 01:00:12,360
up with something.

1016
01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:15,060
Thank you all guys, we get a lot
of

1017
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:17,430
art sometimes we this time we
got no art because nobody was

1018
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:20,850
listening to the show on Sunday.
Well and that is reflected in a

1019
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,350
donation is

1020
01:00:22,350 --> 01:00:25,590
it is it is completely reflected
in that. But anyway, no agenda

1021
01:00:25,590 --> 01:00:28,620
generator.com Thank you very
much. Sir Paul couture for

1022
01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:32,040
keeping that running. He also
submitted was not chosen, but we

1023
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,890
use it for the news labour
actually just who was almost

1024
01:00:34,890 --> 01:00:39,000
chosen it was. And here's the
thing, though, you sent out a

1025
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:45,150
beautiful, long, detailed
newsletter. And it's just not

1026
01:00:45,150 --> 01:00:45,960
worth it, John.

1027
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,160
It's just no every time I've
sent out a longer than usual

1028
01:00:50,190 --> 01:00:50,970
newsletter

1029
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,080
donations or donations go down.
Because if you don't put any

1030
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,590
content in there, okay, here's
some content. And I think people

1031
01:00:58,590 --> 01:00:59,220
go,

1032
01:01:00,030 --> 01:01:02,970
Well, we don't want this. We
don't want I've had people I did

1033
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,700
do a wine newsletter
occasionally, which is the

1034
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:08,760
occasional wine newsletter.
Yeah. And I had so so I'm going

1035
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,040
to be on the list. I want to be
on the list. And so I this is a

1036
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,940
long newsletter is two, three
pages at least. Oh, we all dense

1037
01:01:14,970 --> 01:01:18,240
with a lot of good information.
And I get the feedback as I

1038
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,150
actually get my newsletter.
Yeah, yes. It's just too long. I

1039
01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:21,630
couldn't read it.

1040
01:01:21,630 --> 01:01:26,250
No, it is I think I've become a
fan of marketing through email.

1041
01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:30,990
I don't know why but I see email
newsletters have gotten really

1042
01:01:30,990 --> 01:01:33,150
good. I think part of that is
MailChimp, the MailChimp

1043
01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:36,810
revolution. They've they've,
they've figured out how to let

1044
01:01:36,810 --> 01:01:41,850
people send pretty emails. And
I'm starting to enjoy it. I'll

1045
01:01:41,850 --> 01:01:44,880
actually look through it now. I
still understand why I get the

1046
01:01:44,910 --> 01:01:49,590
the ones from Russia and the
French ones and you can click

1047
01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:51,900
unsubscribe. And sometimes it
works.

1048
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,920
It should work I'm suppose it
works out. I'm only the

1049
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,490
scammers.

1050
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:59,129
I'm thinking some sometimes I
have a thought like maybe I

1051
01:01:59,129 --> 01:02:01,469
should do my own little
newsletter. Just you know, just

1052
01:02:01,679 --> 01:02:05,669
email was like the last thing
that maybe will still be a

1053
01:02:05,669 --> 01:02:09,749
direct connection. Yeah, okay,
so Google owns your email not

1054
01:02:09,749 --> 01:02:14,429
mine. You know, at least half of
us is free. It may be the last

1055
01:02:14,429 --> 01:02:18,959
protocol that still works. Until
the dark mail people come in and

1056
01:02:18,959 --> 01:02:21,359
make fix it. Can't wait for
that.

1057
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:25,770
Yeah, well nothing's getting
fixed anytime soon. From what I

1058
01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:28,830
can tell. But let's take a few
of our producers for

1059
01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:31,470
only associate execs today no
executive producer know

1060
01:02:31,470 --> 01:02:35,160
what the top we have to remember
the rule is that if nobody

1061
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:41,250
donates more than $333.33 the
most that we get from Drew yeah

1062
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:48,780
gets the gets the man Gregory
ball and Wallsend UK came in

1063
01:02:48,780 --> 01:02:52,500
with $256 he becomes the
executive producer. So he got a

1064
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:56,760
deal because it's been a while
but due to no job but you guys

1065
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,800
helped me through now I got a
job at the beginning of

1066
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,430
November. So here's the donation
of Sal braid my first pay packet

1067
01:03:02,460 --> 01:03:06,780
in five months so thank you
thank you so much. That was

1068
01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:07,140
nice.

1069
01:03:07,170 --> 01:03:10,830
That's that's super nice. Well
and thanks for sticking with us.

1070
01:03:11,730 --> 01:03:12,060
Yeah

1071
01:03:15,210 --> 01:03:19,920
pice San peace, peace on I would
say peace honour that present.

1072
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,190
Now there's no tea I would say
Pisan pretty sure.

1073
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:29,160
Forgive me as the the P song.
Sorry. A crack kill and Buzz

1074
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,240
pot. It's time I sent you value.
Your analysis on the Snowden

1075
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,270
leak and that progressive
hypocrites journalistic paywall,

1076
01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:38,100
aka the green wall. Oh,

1077
01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:40,860
I like that one. The Greenwald
Glenn Greenwald

1078
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,060
has been very helpful in
understanding the nature of the

1079
01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:48,030
suppose a journalist without the
no agenda show and intellectual

1080
01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:51,810
darkness would cover the FEMA
Region three and all of Gitmo

1081
01:03:51,810 --> 01:03:55,620
nation. I believe you two are
uniquely equipped to topple the

1082
01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:56,190
Empire

1083
01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:04,710
Yeah, this is a bastardization
of our slogan, which is Hillary

1084
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:09,090
Clinton is uniquely qualified to
run the Empire. Try it out on

1085
01:04:09,090 --> 01:04:11,070
your friends they'll love it.
Yeah,

1086
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:12,150
did you try it out? Oh,

1087
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:16,560
but dinner several times. And
it's more silence.

1088
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:21,210
You're just getting the silent
treatment was getting turned 50

1089
01:04:21,210 --> 01:04:26,670
bucks from the P song. Chris
icebox and Cheshire Connecticut

1090
01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:32,130
to 31 this makes today a triple
witching day is my birthday that

1091
01:04:32,130 --> 01:04:32,940
we haven't done for that

1092
01:04:32,970 --> 01:04:37,380
doesn't look like it hold on.
Let me make sure we've got maybe

1093
01:04:37,410 --> 01:04:38,730
it's he's not highlighted.

1094
01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:42,150
Well, he is highlighted for you
can't do two highlights in the

1095
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:42,510
same

1096
01:04:42,540 --> 01:04:45,360
way he gets a knighthood and
yes, and he gets a birthday.

1097
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,080
Wow.

1098
01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:50,730
It is the day my brother in law
has brain surgery to get rid

1099
01:04:50,730 --> 01:04:53,070
of a tumour. Well, that's a
happy occasion.

1100
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,740
And now I made a night ca please
give me a fuck cancer and karma

1101
01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:01,440
for my brother in law surgery.
Looking forward to wenches and

1102
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,190
beer and becoming part of the no
agenda Brewers Guild can't wait.

1103
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:09,660
Karma.

1104
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:13,260
All right, let us know how the
offline

1105
01:05:13,860 --> 01:05:17,490
and finally for joining $11.11
from Craig, Mozilla Norwalk,

1106
01:05:17,490 --> 01:05:23,190
Connecticut. I'm John Adams
always thank you for your

1107
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:25,650
courage. I'd like to give a
shout out to Henry to thank him

1108
01:05:25,650 --> 01:05:29,460
for his courage. Please accept
my slave pal donation as follows

1109
01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:34,680
110 110 and 111 1011 Jewish to
make it rain and the remainder

1110
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,290
to land me and associate
producer credit assuming my math

1111
01:05:37,290 --> 01:05:40,650
is greatnesses I'm not a victim
I mean student of Common Core

1112
01:05:40,650 --> 01:05:46,710
education I'm sure it is. I'd
like to call merit and Femke to

1113
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:47,580
the stage

1114
01:05:47,609 --> 01:05:52,349
merit and Finca femme COVID
famco Yeah, like Yeah, Femke

1115
01:05:52,349 --> 01:05:54,629
Johansson like the actress
femme. Oh, that's

1116
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:58,440
the one she paid. She's famous.
She played on a top Bond

1117
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,270
girl. Yeah, the Bond girl.

1118
01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:03,420
She's quite attractive. Yeah.
Keep up the good work

1119
01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:07,499
as well, by the way, but she
hasn't aged that well since the

1120
01:06:07,499 --> 01:06:08,849
movie. Oh,

1121
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:13,080
no, it happens. I like a little
she has a she loves to just get

1122
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,010
those Eastern European genes
which don't do well. I like a

1123
01:06:17,010 --> 01:06:20,700
little girl Shut up slave Oreos
are more addictive than cocaine

1124
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:25,110
from my wife Jamie. And how
about George Clooney as a spy?

1125
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,270
I'm sorry, I keep hearing noise
I'm not sure if what was going

1126
01:06:30,270 --> 01:06:32,910
on. What was what did he want?

1127
01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:38,580
Alright, he wants logo shut UPS
slave. Oreos are more addictive

1128
01:06:38,580 --> 01:06:43,740
than cocaine. Cod. And George
Clooney is a spy. Okay, well

1129
01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:47,940
this is he just wants to hear
cool stuff. Yeah. are really are

1130
01:06:47,940 --> 01:06:48,510
jingles.

1131
01:06:49,410 --> 01:06:53,340
where's the where's the Oreos? I
have the Oreos? I got that one.

1132
01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:59,670
Having trouble finding the oh
maybe it's under the Clooney spy

1133
01:06:59,670 --> 01:07:04,320
and then little was it little
girl? Yay. Yeah. Oh my god is

1134
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,710
and all of that wrapped into
karma. No doubt. I really didn't

1135
01:07:07,710 --> 01:07:15,930
say karma will do. Rios are just
as addictive as cocaine is a

1136
01:07:15,930 --> 01:07:22,950
spy. You've got karma. Kern
nailed it.

1137
01:07:24,030 --> 01:07:24,990
It is so funny.

1138
01:07:25,830 --> 01:07:27,240
The George Clooney is a spy.

1139
01:07:27,630 --> 01:07:30,090
Yeah, I don't know why. I don't
know why that clip is so funny.

1140
01:07:30,090 --> 01:07:32,820
But it's just funny.

1141
01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:36,840
Well, it's you know and these
this is why our show is so

1142
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:37,410
great. Is

1143
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:40,440
this is George Clooney comes
out. Yeah, tweeted this, of

1144
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,670
course. And it says everyone who
uses Twitter's in a moron. Yeah.

1145
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,830
And the whole thing is stupid.

1146
01:07:47,310 --> 01:07:49,350
Did you read the whole Esquire
article?

1147
01:07:49,620 --> 01:07:53,070
No, I didn't. Like that guy like
that. Duncan guy. I told you I

1148
01:07:53,070 --> 01:07:55,650
don't read anything. I just
whatever rumour goes around I

1149
01:07:55,650 --> 01:07:56,190
manically

1150
01:07:56,250 --> 01:08:00,930
Exactly. Well, there you go.
Well, thank you very much to our

1151
01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:04,320
executive, Associate Executive
producers and our executive

1152
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,640
producer. Gregory ball grabs
that today. We of course really

1153
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,940
appreciate your support today.
As you'll see we have a rather

1154
01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:16,080
short short shortlist. And John
always John thinks it's it's the

1155
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,970
Thanksgiving time period. And
I'm always amazed because what

1156
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,400
where's everybody else from the
rest of the world? They stopped

1157
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,810
listening. It's just it. They
don't have Thanksgiving. Maybe

1158
01:08:27,810 --> 01:08:30,420
they're all influenced by what's
happening in our media that

1159
01:08:30,420 --> 01:08:31,290
everyone goes through.

1160
01:08:31,290 --> 01:08:34,440
It might be true, because all
they do all the network TV

1161
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:38,100
normal series is all on
vacation. This particular week,

1162
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,770
there's nobody working. That's
correct.

1163
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:46,889
And the story I got emailed the
most was about these, this

1164
01:08:46,889 --> 01:08:50,399
father and son who got into a
fight over their mac and cheese.

1165
01:08:51,089 --> 01:08:55,979
And somehow this is hilarious.
And this is emailed a million

1166
01:08:55,979 --> 01:09:01,949
times. Did you get this email?
Yep. I want to thank Tyler

1167
01:09:01,980 --> 01:09:05,340
George and then open it I find
it to be just kind of

1168
01:09:05,340 --> 01:09:06,030
distressing.

1169
01:09:06,089 --> 01:09:08,219
Well, I want to thank Tyler
Gordon, one of our producers who

1170
01:09:08,219 --> 01:09:11,579
gave the proper analysis as
well. Things are getting pretty

1171
01:09:11,579 --> 01:09:14,549
rough in Gitmo nation east the
younger son has apparently a no

1172
01:09:14,549 --> 01:09:17,099
agenda listener who fully
understands the value of mac and

1173
01:09:17,099 --> 01:09:21,269
cheese and will not stand for
cheeseless macaroni, which is

1174
01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:22,739
exactly what the fight was
about.

1175
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,880
Oh, it was about cheeseless

1176
01:09:26,910 --> 01:09:31,140
Yeah, the father didn't want to
do the word there wasn't enough

1177
01:09:31,350 --> 01:09:35,670
cheese packets to go on to the
macaroni cheese packets.

1178
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:38,580
Remember, this isn't the UK they
don't really know how to do mac

1179
01:09:38,580 --> 01:09:39,660
and cheese properly.

1180
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,400
It just the whole of the cheddar

1181
01:09:42,899 --> 01:09:46,379
then doesn't mean they know what
they're doing. Alright, anyway,

1182
01:09:46,379 --> 01:09:49,559
please support us for Sunday
show. Sundays are always harder

1183
01:09:49,559 --> 01:09:51,749
than Thursday. So I'm not
looking forward to what we'll

1184
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:54,689
see on the spreadsheet, although
we will be there with your news

1185
01:09:54,690 --> 01:09:59,220
analysis.org/and And of course
you

1186
01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:01,950
can always get tell you to go
out and propagate that formula.

1187
01:10:02,940 --> 01:10:07,650
Our formula is this. We go out,
we hit people in the mouth

1188
01:10:17,940 --> 01:10:25,800
shut. All right. Right now I
have to go into the big news of

1189
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:32,310
the week. This was anticipated,
of course, the release of some

1190
01:10:32,340 --> 01:10:39,300
of the 911 call tapes. Yeah,
like we're still recording 911

1191
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:41,280
calls on tape.

1192
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:44,910
It's funny how people are good
one people.

1193
01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:48,840
This is like the tapes had been
released. And then actually, the

1194
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,350
release being filmed the release
of the tapes actually said tape

1195
01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:55,800
one tape to know these, of
course, a digital recordings.

1196
01:10:56,490 --> 01:10:58,770
And now there was a couple
things that were interesting.

1197
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,140
Now, of course, I listened to
them, I listened to what was

1198
01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:05,730
released. As you know, none of
the evidence of the Sandy Hook

1199
01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:09,780
shooting is actually evidence of
a shooting. It's a lot of

1200
01:11:09,780 --> 01:11:13,830
evidence about Adam Lanza is
home and all this stuff. But the

1201
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:19,200
interesting was all of the news
outlets, except ultimately, CNN,

1202
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,280
I think, who played a little
bit, refused to play the tapes,

1203
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,490
which of course made me highly
interested in hearing how

1204
01:11:26,490 --> 01:11:29,190
important the stuff the
information was. That's on these

1205
01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:36,780
tapes. So let us just go down a
quick list here. We have now

1206
01:11:37,260 --> 01:11:42,930
I'll start with a member I get
to do some MSNBC stuff now. And

1207
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,150
although I've been banned, I've
been banned from playing

1208
01:11:45,150 --> 01:11:47,880
anything by him. I'm bringing it
out because you know, I could

1209
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,020
use it. I could do it now.

1210
01:11:49,410 --> 01:11:53,040
Oh, no. You weren't banned from
playing for anything by quoting

1211
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,330
him. I was

1212
01:11:54,330 --> 01:11:56,340
banned from playing anything by
Touray.

1213
01:11:57,420 --> 01:12:01,320
Oh, I thought it'd be I will you
are banned from playing anything

1214
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:02,880
from Rachel.

1215
01:12:02,910 --> 01:12:04,560
I have that too. So yeah,

1216
01:12:04,770 --> 01:12:08,160
you're right. You're right. It
was Tory here's hooray. Oh,

1217
01:12:08,190 --> 01:12:11,370
wait, you recorded this.
Assuming you're going to be

1218
01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:14,610
unbanned when you're actually
haven't been? Correct. The band

1219
01:12:14,610 --> 01:12:16,800
that you gave me for? I forgot
what it was now.

1220
01:12:17,010 --> 01:12:20,310
You don't even know if you've
got even know what the band was.

1221
01:12:20,580 --> 01:12:23,700
I'll remember it eventually.
It'll come

1222
01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:28,710
to me dammit. Here's to re
explaining why why they're not

1223
01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:30,930
playing these 911 calls

1224
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,150
for developing news this
afternoon on the cycle within

1225
01:12:33,150 --> 01:12:36,420
the past hour, authorities
released a handful of 911 calls.

1226
01:12:36,780 --> 01:12:40,800
A handful from inside Sandy Hook
Elementary School just 10 days

1227
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,560
out from the first anniversary
of one of the deadliest mass

1228
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,800
shootings in American history is
obviously a sensitive issue for

1229
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,410
the families lost loved ones and
for many others in the

1230
01:12:49,410 --> 01:12:51,900
community. And for many in
America, for that matter. NBC

1231
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:54,960
News is currently reviewing the
tapes. But for now at least we

1232
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,450
are not we're choosing not to
air them

1233
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:00,690
not to air them we're choosing
not to do you hear how he talked

1234
01:13:00,690 --> 01:13:01,710
him not to air.

1235
01:13:02,010 --> 01:13:05,130
Today's release ends a month's
long court fight to make those

1236
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:08,040
tapes. Public opponents argue
the wounds are still too fresh.

1237
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,710
But those who argued for their
release say the calls may

1238
01:13:10,710 --> 01:13:13,830
provide insight into the way the
response was handled. Perhaps

1239
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:16,320
get us better prepared for
future events.

1240
01:13:16,980 --> 01:13:19,230
Oh yes, be prepared for future
events.

1241
01:13:19,260 --> 01:13:22,260
You know guys just because the
media has something a photograph

1242
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:24,870
a tape a piece of video doesn't
mean that we have to release it

1243
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:27,360
doesn't mean we have to say
whatever we get we just put it

1244
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,850
out and let the people decide
how they feel about it. We make

1245
01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:30,420
decisions

1246
01:13:30,450 --> 01:13:33,240
and this is what's so
interesting that this new shift

1247
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,800
is happening the same time where
the yes he's a douche. There's

1248
01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:42,570
there's a CCTV footage of Paul
Walker's car crashing bulb

1249
01:13:42,570 --> 01:13:45,600
bursting into flames. There's
pictures there's there's

1250
01:13:46,140 --> 01:13:50,430
everything is on it except for
the burnt to a crisp body. But

1251
01:13:50,430 --> 01:13:52,020
every picture is out there

1252
01:13:52,050 --> 01:13:55,140
but what to air what to
broadcast every single day.

1253
01:13:55,290 --> 01:13:57,510
And we're talking about audio.
We're talking about people

1254
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:59,910
calling up we're not talking
about pictures or video we're

1255
01:13:59,910 --> 01:14:03,900
talking about 911 calls of
people calling, perhaps in

1256
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:05,010
distress. And,

1257
01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:08,670
you know, we have to ask, is
this valuable for the public

1258
01:14:08,670 --> 01:14:11,190
good? Does it advance the story?
does it enhance the narrative?

1259
01:14:11,190 --> 01:14:13,530
does it enhance our
understanding of what happened

1260
01:14:13,530 --> 01:14:14,550
in a given situation?

1261
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,810
When did he become Knight of
morality? Why is this happening?

1262
01:14:18,810 --> 01:14:23,100
I can only think of a few things
and one of them is they're meant

1263
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:26,190
to shut up and not play this
because well perhaps there's

1264
01:14:26,190 --> 01:14:28,740
nothing on it or it's really
unimportant thing

1265
01:14:28,740 --> 01:14:30,810
on or somebody who's you know
they call it they did there was

1266
01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:33,330
no emotion didn't make any
sense. All the things that have

1267
01:14:33,330 --> 01:14:37,800
been uncovered by the YouTubers
that have gone over most of this

1268
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,010
evidence with a fine tooth comb
Much, much of the much of the

1269
01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:43,680
stuff they've uncovered is quite
interesting.

1270
01:14:43,710 --> 01:14:49,050
Well, here's Rachel. Now Rachel
did a 20 minute segment about

1271
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:56,070
she started off with AI turned.
She started off with how the New

1272
01:14:56,070 --> 01:15:00,120
York Times published a picture
on September 12 2001 of some I'm

1273
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,710
on jumping from the World Trade
Centre. And you know how this

1274
01:15:04,740 --> 01:15:08,310
this whole thing about the
responsibility of the media and

1275
01:15:08,430 --> 01:15:12,420
it's so hard and doing
journalism is hard and making

1276
01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:17,400
the hard, tough decisions. It's
so hard. Oh, it's so hard. We

1277
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,470
don't know this is now this the
day before the tapes are

1278
01:15:19,470 --> 01:15:23,700
released. We're gonna have the
vapours. Exactly. She is so

1279
01:15:23,730 --> 01:15:26,100
insincere about this, it is

1280
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:27,840
a very, very uncomfortable
thing.

1281
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,290
It's a little uncomfortable. So
she has not heard the tapes, the

1282
01:15:31,290 --> 01:15:33,750
tapes not released until the
next day already. She's

1283
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:36,390
already she's uncomfortable,
yes, but it is part of why the

1284
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:38,580
job of a free and responsible
press. It's not just an

1285
01:15:38,580 --> 01:15:41,730
important thing in a democracy.
It's a hard thing.

1286
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,630
It's hard, John, don't think
that you can be a free press in

1287
01:15:45,630 --> 01:15:49,260
a democracy, not you Dvorak
because it's hard. And it's

1288
01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:52,560
really complicated. And it's
disturbing, and you may not have

1289
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,880
the balls for it, my friend,

1290
01:15:53,940 --> 01:15:57,210
and it's a hard job and it is
hard to do. Well, it's not hard,

1291
01:15:57,210 --> 01:15:57,660
Rachel

1292
01:15:57,690 --> 01:16:00,840
hard. It's hard to remember
George, what's going on?

1293
01:16:01,890 --> 01:16:04,290
The people who do it to be
worthy of the responsibility

1294
01:16:04,290 --> 01:16:04,590
that they

1295
01:16:04,590 --> 01:16:07,530
have. Are you worthy of the
responsibility because I'm about

1296
01:16:07,530 --> 01:16:09,630
to play some of these tapes.
John, I hope you're worthy of

1297
01:16:09,630 --> 01:16:11,820
that responsibility that huge
responsibility.

1298
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:16,530
Tomorrow morning, in a law
office in Danbury, Connecticut,

1299
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,100
the news media will get access
to the tapes of the 911 phone

1300
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:23,340
calls that were made in Newtown,
Connecticut on the morning of

1301
01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:26,340
the Sandy Hook Elementary school
shootings. The State of

1302
01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:28,980
Connecticut and the prosecutor's
office and representatives of

1303
01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:32,580
the victim's families say they
did not want those tapes to ever

1304
01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:36,390
become available to the public
for but the Associated Press

1305
01:16:36,420 --> 01:16:39,690
sued to get access to the tapes
goes horrible Associated Press

1306
01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,180
people and the judge ruled in
their favour and the appeals

1307
01:16:42,180 --> 01:16:44,610
were dropped. And so tomorrow
morning in Connecticut, the

1308
01:16:44,610 --> 01:16:49,020
media for the first time will
get those tapes. And then what

1309
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,230
and then what? And now it's up
to the good judgement of the

1310
01:16:52,230 --> 01:16:55,860
media to decide whether those
tapes should be publicly

1311
01:16:55,860 --> 01:16:59,880
broadcast whether what they will
add to the public understanding

1312
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:03,180
of the Sandy Hook massacre
outweighs the additional

1313
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,600
pointless trauma that playing
those tapes publicly will

1314
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,330
undoubtedly cause to the
families and the survivors in

1315
01:17:09,330 --> 01:17:10,020
New Towns forgive

1316
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:13,200
me if I'm wrong jump but didn't
we did hear over and over again,

1317
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,130
the so called tapes from the
cell phones on the 911

1318
01:17:17,130 --> 01:17:22,500
aeroplanes and phone calls from
people on the 98th floor. I

1319
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:25,800
mean, over and over again the
biggest tragedy in American

1320
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,540
history and now all of a sudden,
we have the the dame of

1321
01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:36,240
morality. The dame she's on her
white moral horse named morality

1322
01:17:36,690 --> 01:17:39,030
riding through the desert of
morality to

1323
01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:41,400
stop giving us all kinds of
imagery here.

1324
01:17:42,510 --> 01:17:44,910
Again, it wasn't Associated
Press lawsuit that brought about

1325
01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:48,960
the tomorrow morning. It's
interesting and all of the APS

1326
01:17:48,990 --> 01:17:53,160
own news stories about their own
efforts to get access then she

1327
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,160
goes into Okay, so I'm gonna
stop that there but even Algis

1328
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,110
zero won't play the tape
recordings

1329
01:17:58,110 --> 01:18:01,500
of a 911 calls from Sandy Hook
Elementary School. The shooting

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there were released earlier
today, the audio reveals a

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mixture of calm and anguish as
town dispatchers urged panicked

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callers to take cover as
gunshots could be heard at times

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in the background Al Jazeera
America will not play those

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audio recordings.

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Why not out of all the people
who should be playing it please

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listen to the curry Devorah
Consulting Group someone needs

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to play these things to get some
ratings. You have morons or

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you're on you're completely

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right. I think this one this is
the point really? LG has zero

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nobody knows or even on anymore
I mean they're they're on Al

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Jazeera America is on the
current network. Nobody's ever

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watched that network or cares.
And nobody watches Al Jazeera. I

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mean, I always forget about
about him and I I'm doing all

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kinds of clips I've got I've got
some some news from Tezuka Stan

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some network, but I don't watch
Algis there. I tried to but I

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keep forgetting about it. They
need to get some attention. They

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would have they would have run
this and been the only network

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to run it that everyone would of
course have been a big Oh, this

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is terrible that they ran these
horrible. Well, that would have

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got them a lot of attention.
They know this, there is no

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tape.

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Well, here's so I have I
listened to all seven tapes. And

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I was dumbfounded that the
majority of the recordings are

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of the acting custodian for that
day. Rick Thorne who has

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negative tapes. The tapes have
been released and probable that

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they're all over the place.
Okay. Yeah, the tape and they're

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in their bullshit, right?

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Well listen to what I'm saying.
The majority of what is on the

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tapes, and I only I listened to
them. I listened to them four

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times. I got what you need to
hear. You don't need to hear any

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Hang out but the majority of the
tapes are of the listen

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carefully acting custodian for
that day. Rick Thorne he was so

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he's a fill in for that day this
guy is find an interview with

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him a by by any of the networks
find the interview with this guy

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by anybody find a print
interview with this guy. non

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existent this guy might as well
be a zombie. Yet here he is. And

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he has a very interesting way of
talking. All right.

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All right. What about the
students in the front of the

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building? Everything's locked up
as far as I know.

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down so he says he's not inside.
Are you in lockdown

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during lockdown? Did you see
anything else? We're in

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lockdown. Know what's going on?
I can't get over that. Okay, I

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don't want you to go over that.
I want to know what's happening

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with the students. So along the
front corridor as this is in the

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front parking lot. Not I'm not
in the front. I'm actually on

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the other side. I'm close. I'm
close. Do you see anything or

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hear anything more? I keep
hearing shooting. Popping

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popping. Jen Let's get one.
Let's get one caller I'll take

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my call are now who am I talking
with right now? What's your

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name? Redstorm. Rick, what is
your position with the school?

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Acting head custodian

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I'm the acting head custodian
for today.

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What's the address of the school

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for the active custodian knows
that he knows the address

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exactly well that was happening
okay all right now when you say

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the school is in lockdown during
classrooms

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all that he knows about
everything all that he hasn't

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been up front all the doors are
locked including the classrooms

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were in lockdown although he
isn't there at this

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time you're defending in place

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to interesting the dispatcher I
guess that's just a mistake on

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the dispatchers side in place
ending in place now from a

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conspiratorial angle and by the
way, a lot of people will hate

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me for doing this but I don't
care someone has to go hate you.

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People be like oh that's the
people who watch MSNBC and are

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happy that they didn't play the
tapes because it's so insulting

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to the dead children John that's
what that's the people who will

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hate me

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Oh, nobody said that to you. No,
not yet. This

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time all the rooms are locked.
Did you see anything else before

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this started? No.

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No, and I was out all morning.
So he even starts off the call

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when I'm outside so that all of
this is very shaky. Where are

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you in the gym? The gym teacher
just told me this is all new by

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the way. The gym teacher just
apparently walked up

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to him as the shoot as he's
outside doing what the who

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knows and and someone's walking
outside

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Alright, guys, the worst actor
ever wait

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for it.

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Are they running on the outside
of the inside? I would say that

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was the outside

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they are running on the outside
more than one person now.

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They're still shooting

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going on. And what about
injuries at this time

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so that so now we hear something
that sounds like gunshots in the

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background? We're not sure what
that is.

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What about injuries at this
time? I don't know of any

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injuries right now. Okay

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can I need you to call the state
police?

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There was someone yelling at the
acting custodian for the day

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still going on.

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Now listen to I did some editing
for you obviously listen to some

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of the language he's using in
this part of the call because he

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basically stays on as the eyes
and ears of 911. Again, a guy

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who we have never seen in an
interview anywhere ever.

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Do you hear any police officers
at this time wreck from hearing?

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I'm not seeing anybody or
hearing talking. Okay. I'm

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sitting in the middle of this
corridor.

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How unlikely he's standing in
the middle of the corridor the

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shooting going on make sense

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outside

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Well, this well that's what he
said first, and now he's inside.

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Listen to he's like I'm the
custodian on the custodian.

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Listen to this. Podium
custodian, 60s

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reentering

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custodian tell him you're on the
phone with me. I'm on the phone

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with dispatch.

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Okay. Now this is a big problem
for me. If I'm the custodian,

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and I'm saying I like custodian,
custodian, and then I'm, I would

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say, I'm on the phone with 911.

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I agree. You only use that term
generally speaking, if you work

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within the government in an
agency, that's what you you're

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driving around in some cars.
Yeah, got dispatch on the top

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say, yeah,

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so he may be an ex cop, but we
don't know this because we've

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never heard from this guy. What?

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Yeah, it could be an ex cop.
Something like that. But we

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don't know. How many? How many?

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She said to down to down. He's
like, okay. Is it safe?

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So nobody

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anybody go on there? I, Rick,
Rick, I'm gonna let you go. You

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go with them.

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For the state police.

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He's now telling him to call the
state police. That's why does he

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I mean, I didn't hear anyone
tell him to do that. I've been

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notified. notified. I'm gonna
keep doing

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01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:14,940
I actually told him this call
the state police law earlier to

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okay, why the State Police?

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Well, I don't know, as part of
the protocol now. So that was

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do I did the temporary janitors
protocol. Yes, that's

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exactly yes. Yes. Hello, don't
you haven't you read the acting

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janitor for the day protocol
book. Okay, so here's another

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part of interesting protocol.
And by the way, this is the

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worst you'll hear on these tapes
is that it's the only shooting

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that's on any of these
recordings. And there's one we

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don't know but who she was was
shot in the foot. And this is

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her demeanour on the phone call.
This is how she how upset she is

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by what has happened by being
shot in the foot. And the fact

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that the police calls into
dispatch and just puts her on

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the phone is very strange to me

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I got an

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even shot once in the fight
she's okay. Rule number one.

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Rule number one one shot and
ruin the one

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guys arriving on so this is this
is the state police calling him

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I've got one shot you know, he's
not freaking out. He's not like

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oh, there's there's 20 people
dead. This kid's bleeding all

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over the place. I got this lady
she shot in the foot here. How

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long till you guys like Get over
here?

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How close are you guys email
shot in the foot. You got a

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female party shot in the foot.
Right by the playground. I know

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that. Okay, where? Where are
you? Are you okay? Right now?

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Okay,

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just put it on the phone.

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Where? Where's room? One in the
school? In the playground? Where

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are you seeing the playground?
On the playground? facing

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towards the playground. Are you
safe right now? I think so. My

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classroom doors not locked

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with the state police. What I
don't know if I'm safe. My

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classroom doors not locked. The
State Police is standing right

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next to her. I'd be like yeah, I
got a guy with a gun here. I got

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the police with me. I feel
pretty safe.

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01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,950
Okay, is there anybody that can
lock the classroom door without

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being safe? To do so. Okay. Stay
where you are. Okay. Children in

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01:28:42,060 --> 01:28:46,350
this room. Okay. Try to apply
pressure. Okay. Okay, we have

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people come in. Okay. All right.
Is there any other teacher with

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you in there is just students.

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There's two other adults in the
room. All right.

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Are they? Are they right next to
you? Where are they in the room?

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No, they're over on the other
side of the bookshelf. Okay. All

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right. Are you okay? Right now?
For now hopefully. Okay.

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I don't understand. There was
like a madman running around

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01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,400
shooting 100 rounds in five
minutes killing children and

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01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:21,570
teachers left and right.
Everyone so calm. So

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here's the reason I realised
listening to this. Why MSNBC and

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01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:29,280
even Al Jazeera because it
doesn't fit the story doesn't

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01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,970
fit the story. And it's and
they're boring. Yes. So you make

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01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:37,710
him exciting by saying Oh, yes,
exactly. Oh, listen to our show

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01:29:37,710 --> 01:29:41,490
should think about this. Yeah,
talking to the mic. They have

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01:29:41,490 --> 01:29:47,490
been telling us that these tapes
are so horrible journalistic

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01:29:47,490 --> 01:29:53,010
consideration. They had to
expunge them, they couldn't play

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01:29:53,010 --> 01:29:54,030
them because we

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01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:57,330
it was your 14 years out too
upsetting,

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01:29:57,780 --> 01:30:01,890
too upsetting. And so you play
the tapes, which nobody

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01:30:01,890 --> 01:30:04,980
apparently wants to do, for the
obvious reasons, they're boring.

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01:30:05,070 --> 01:30:08,430
They're not upsetting, and they
don't fit the scenario. And by

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the way, I do want to talk a
little bit about the scenario.

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And

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before how I've one more, one
more than I want to hear what

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01:30:13,620 --> 01:30:16,830
you have to say, this is a
little a little thing from

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Andrea Mitchell, who is talking
to one of the so called Mothers

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01:30:23,070 --> 01:30:25,770
of Sandy Hook, who, of course,
they don't want any of this

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01:30:25,770 --> 01:30:28,650
publicity. We don't want it. We
don't want any of this, please

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01:30:28,650 --> 01:30:32,610
stay away from us. No 911 calls,
but we'll be there on December

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01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:36,330
14, and we go against all the
gun regulation or go for the gun

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01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,600
regulation. So Andrew Mitchell,
she says something very

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01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,220
interesting here when I ask you
about

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01:30:41,250 --> 01:30:44,940
the reports from the
investigating group on Adam

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01:30:44,940 --> 01:30:48,270
Lanza, his mother, and the fact
that she was getting him another

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01:30:48,270 --> 01:30:53,070
gun that he was apparently such
a mentally challenged child to a

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01:30:53,070 --> 01:30:56,790
young man. And that her way
apparently, it's hard to tell

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01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:59,970
because there's no survivors
here for that family. But her

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01:30:59,970 --> 01:31:01,230
way of reaching out to him was,

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01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:06,360
I'm sorry, no survivors from
that family. How about his dad?

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01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:09,870
How about his so called brother
Ryan Lanza? Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.

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01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:14,490
They're all on the same cruise
ship with Edward Snowden

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01:31:14,490 --> 01:31:18,030
stripper girlfriend who we also
can't interview and the acting

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01:31:18,030 --> 01:31:22,740
head custodian. This is such an
insult. Such an insult for Pete

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01:31:22,740 --> 01:31:26,670
for someone like Rachel mad cow
to say that she's a journalist

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01:31:26,670 --> 01:31:29,490
and all this integrity when
they're doing nothing because

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01:31:29,490 --> 01:31:33,240
they're either in on it. They're
in on it and they are horrible,

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01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,470
horrible people.

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01:31:34,500 --> 01:31:37,950
I don't know that they're in on
it, then they are just stupid.

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01:31:37,980 --> 01:31:40,440
There you go. I think you're
finally getting it.

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01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:42,750
It's really insulting John.

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01:31:43,559 --> 01:31:48,599
There's no way she's in on it.
She goes she can't do it. I

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01:31:48,599 --> 01:31:51,779
mean, it's just we have if you
go to YouTube and I sent that

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01:31:51,779 --> 01:31:54,389
link, I mean, there's there's
one we had this one hour and a

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01:31:54,389 --> 01:31:54,629
half

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01:31:55,620 --> 01:31:58,860
let me explain this one thing
when John C. Dvorak is sending

1550
01:31:58,860 --> 01:32:05,190
me YouTube videos and saying
wow, this is some good analysis

1551
01:32:05,190 --> 01:32:09,750
what do you think then something
is amiss with the real story

1552
01:32:09,990 --> 01:32:11,820
time something is wrong so

1553
01:32:11,820 --> 01:32:15,390
I'm so I had some thoughts about
this because I was concerned

1554
01:32:15,390 --> 01:32:17,670
about all the YouTube videos and
the deconstruction of this

1555
01:32:17,670 --> 01:32:21,300
happening everywhere to an
extreme of all the things events

1556
01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:24,840
have happened the Navy shooting
man he wasn't that much nobody

1557
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:29,250
got into it the what was a
couple other these events the

1558
01:32:29,250 --> 01:32:30,630
Boston bombing thing a little
bit

1559
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:35,610
possible. We have we still to
date, along with the governor of

1560
01:32:35,610 --> 01:32:39,600
Massachusetts have yet to see
the footage the video footage

1561
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,620
that exists according to all
sources of the brothers putting

1562
01:32:43,620 --> 01:32:47,310
the backpack into the trash can
moments before it exploded.

1563
01:32:48,420 --> 01:32:52,890
We have the LAX situation which
is another phoney baloney deal.

1564
01:32:54,090 --> 01:32:57,810
There were too many things don't
make sense. We have that crazy

1565
01:32:57,810 --> 01:33:01,860
cop. These are all on the cycle.
By the way, the crazy cop that

1566
01:33:01,860 --> 01:33:04,980
was going to start sniping all
the LA Police Department who

1567
01:33:04,980 --> 01:33:08,070
burned to death in a cabin in
the woods. Do you

1568
01:33:08,070 --> 01:33:11,490
know that it's been confirmed
that he committed suicide? Oh,

1569
01:33:11,490 --> 01:33:11,580
he

1570
01:33:11,580 --> 01:33:15,090
committed suicide then burn to a
crisp and so on and then they

1571
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:18,270
don't I got these perfectly
pristine weapons that he had

1572
01:33:18,270 --> 01:33:22,860
cash Dorner Dorner wasn't one
burn mark on any of them. They

1573
01:33:22,860 --> 01:33:28,830
weren't smoking. Yeah, and then
when we had the we had the the

1574
01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:34,140
the bomber the crotch bomber
when we when we first played the

1575
01:33:34,620 --> 01:33:37,680
when that occurred which was a
couple years ago. During

1576
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:43,140
Christmas we played clips from
people who were in st whether

1577
01:33:43,140 --> 01:33:44,250
we're filming it

1578
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,840
lawyers who are who wanted to
testify actually testify in

1579
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:53,010
court to say hold on a second
that's not how it went down. And

1580
01:33:53,010 --> 01:33:57,630
we saw this guy walk walk him on
to the plane you know he got he

1581
01:33:57,630 --> 01:34:01,200
had no visa no passport they put
him right on some some dude who

1582
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:04,140
the whole thing was fishy. Hold
on. Here's your Dorner thing. 20

1583
01:34:04,140 --> 01:34:04,860
seconds. Here's

1584
01:34:04,860 --> 01:34:08,700
the man who declared war on Los
Angeles police killed himself.

1585
01:34:08,820 --> 01:34:12,060
An autopsy shows Christopher
Dorner died from a gunshot wound

1586
01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:15,870
to the head. We're also hearing
Dorner hid in a condo very close

1587
01:34:15,870 --> 01:34:19,170
to the command post set up to
find him. He took off after

1588
01:34:19,170 --> 01:34:22,410
tying up the condos owners and
stealing their car. During a

1589
01:34:22,410 --> 01:34:26,280
last stand a cabin erupted in
flames police a tear gas

1590
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,520
canister started the fire but
that was not their intention.

1591
01:34:29,550 --> 01:34:33,360
No they didn't tend to and he
shot himself in the head after

1592
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,810
his after his wallet was found
twice in Mexico and then in

1593
01:34:36,810 --> 01:34:41,520
Northern California. So
insulting people

1594
01:34:43,470 --> 01:34:46,260
Well anyway, he said we'll just
push all these aside we have

1595
01:34:46,260 --> 01:34:49,560
this this bomber and if you
recall the one curious thing

1596
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:53,820
about the crotch bomber was that
when they took everybody off the

1597
01:34:53,820 --> 01:34:57,780
plane they pushed they took them
individually into a big hangar

1598
01:34:57,780 --> 01:35:01,680
there were separating them. Yeah
So that's I believe that may be

1599
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,910
true to kill them. But the sum
was something fell apart in this

1600
01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:09,750
in the story. And so instead of
killing them, or put it or

1601
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:12,120
making them sign something and
then putting them in a witness

1602
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,250
protect, there's a million ways
you can do this or to kill them

1603
01:35:14,250 --> 01:35:17,640
as it gets messy. Yeah, but you
make media scare people. Yeah. I

1604
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:22,350
mean, there was this one episode
in that woman's diatribe on

1605
01:35:22,380 --> 01:35:27,450
YouTube that she said that it's
possible that that one of the

1606
01:35:27,450 --> 01:35:31,170
sheriff's department guys or one
of the police spokesman said you

1607
01:35:31,170 --> 01:35:35,820
will be prosecuted for talking
about this. Remember that? Yeah.

1608
01:35:35,970 --> 01:35:38,910
And then and then it's possible
you there may be a national

1609
01:35:38,910 --> 01:35:42,840
security letter of a form that
we have never seen or has been

1610
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,090
ever been revealed. Yeah, it's
called the

1611
01:35:45,090 --> 01:35:48,150
two guys who show up with the
sunglasses and the big gun in

1612
01:35:48,150 --> 01:35:50,670
your nose. That's kind of

1613
01:35:50,670 --> 01:35:54,720
maybe they just keep people to
shut people up. So I was

1614
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,050
thinking about what if this is
what if this sandy hook thing

1615
01:35:58,050 --> 01:36:01,050
and these other things are
exercises sociological

1616
01:36:01,050 --> 01:36:04,920
experiments on the public, we've
known to the to experiment with

1617
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,690
the public we dump chemicals,

1618
01:36:06,690 --> 01:36:11,070
this ideological warfare psyops,
ie in the conspiratorial

1619
01:36:11,070 --> 01:36:13,830
psyops, which falls normally
illegal, I think, have been

1620
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:17,130
legalised. And so this could be
a Psyops and it's in it's a

1621
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:20,760
test. And what they're testing
is not necessarily the

1622
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:25,380
gullibility of the media, they
are testing the holes, they're

1623
01:36:25,380 --> 01:36:30,030
testing the leak points. And so
what they want is, women like

1624
01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:33,840
this one who went for an hour
and a half, finding every little

1625
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:37,800
screw up the sign behind them
saying they should check in this

1626
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,640
guy showing up here. But being
over there, every little mistake

1627
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,960
that in our show is culpable in
this regard, every single

1628
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,590
mistake that they make is being
documented. So when they pull a

1629
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:53,520
whopper, they'll have all the
bases covered. I don't know who

1630
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,660
to kill that Well, that too, but
I don't think it's gonna go that

1631
01:36:57,660 --> 01:37:00,240
way. I think what they have to
do is just to these are

1632
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,570
mistakes. There are mistakes
that were made. They were

1633
01:37:03,570 --> 01:37:07,890
setting up a press conference
before the event. Yeah, there's

1634
01:37:07,890 --> 01:37:09,690
all sorts of things that they're
doing wrong.

1635
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,250
That was an annoying one, wasn't
it?

1636
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:14,820
And all the black cars
apparently the whole town in

1637
01:37:14,820 --> 01:37:17,910
fact, there's some belief by
this woman that the entire town,

1638
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,830
maybe just all spooks? Yeah,
possible. And why not? You got

1639
01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:23,760
to live somewhere.

1640
01:37:27,060 --> 01:37:29,160
Hey, we gotta like the firm.

1641
01:37:29,970 --> 01:37:33,690
Yeah, exactly. And so it means
he's fiction does kind of

1642
01:37:33,690 --> 01:37:36,360
address these things in a small
way. So what we might be

1643
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,960
watching actually are just
exercises in leakage. Now there

1644
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,620
was what is the what is the
here, we'll just do this, and

1645
01:37:43,620 --> 01:37:46,890
see what happens in do tear down
the school and then get rid of

1646
01:37:46,890 --> 01:37:49,170
all the evidence because it
could come back on the town

1647
01:37:49,410 --> 01:37:51,810
could be an embarrassment to
somebody, whatever the case,

1648
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,860
there are holes in the story and
the story holes are getting out

1649
01:37:55,860 --> 01:37:58,800
there on YouTube and other
places. And we hit and it's not

1650
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,770
to get to these people, because
a lot of them are pretty flaky

1651
01:38:01,770 --> 01:38:04,800
in the way they present this
stuff. But just to see what

1652
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:09,300
serious mistakes were made in
the presentation of the event.

1653
01:38:09,780 --> 01:38:12,930
And I think that the Sandy Hook
thing is the worst that they've

1654
01:38:12,930 --> 01:38:13,140
ever

1655
01:38:13,140 --> 01:38:16,410
done a very, very poor job. To
very poor. I

1656
01:38:16,410 --> 01:38:20,820
think that Los Angeles thing was
a little better. I think

1657
01:38:21,570 --> 01:38:24,480
you realise that? What you are
saying right? That you are

1658
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:28,110
actually saying this? Yeah, this
is unthinkable five, six years

1659
01:38:28,110 --> 01:38:28,470
ago.

1660
01:38:29,460 --> 01:38:33,720
No, no. Now with the evidence
presented to me, okay, as

1661
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:46,830
opposed to just, oh, my car can
run on water. Oh, okay. So,

1662
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,670
anyway, so I'm, I'm guessing
that this is a possibility.

1663
01:38:50,670 --> 01:38:53,010
Because if you're doing
sociological experiments on the

1664
01:38:53,010 --> 01:38:55,740
public, and you just want to see
how they react to horrible

1665
01:38:55,740 --> 01:38:59,220
situations, then you have to
like see what mistakes you made

1666
01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:03,330
you do you do a post mortem at
the end? He said, well, like and

1667
01:39:03,330 --> 01:39:05,610
then let's let these things play
out. What are you gonna do about

1668
01:39:05,610 --> 01:39:08,340
these YouTubers? Let them play
out, we're gonna learn more from

1669
01:39:08,340 --> 01:39:12,150
them, right? We don't have to do
a lot of work on this. The

1670
01:39:12,150 --> 01:39:14,670
YouTube nut balls are going to
get out there and they're going

1671
01:39:14,670 --> 01:39:17,250
to do these ridiculous
presentations. Let's see what

1672
01:39:17,250 --> 01:39:19,560
they come up with. And then we
can make corrections in the

1673
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:24,030
future. We don't have to be
screw a screw up every single

1674
01:39:24,030 --> 01:39:25,800
time we try to do one of these
things. So

1675
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:31,560
it's we agree then that the the
the the media gets paid to

1676
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:37,170
report. They are all in or no.
What do you mean? No,

1677
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:38,640
I don't believe it for a minute.

1678
01:39:38,700 --> 01:39:41,790
But they're they're all in on
the SIOP. They're buying the

1679
01:39:41,790 --> 01:39:44,610
story. Oh, no, they're buying
the story. Yeah, absolutely.

1680
01:39:44,610 --> 01:39:47,520
That's why I mean, not not
there. There is a part of them.

1681
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,340
No, they're all in. And it's

1682
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:54,390
a belief how the government
tells them, but really have been

1683
01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:59,040
trained by journalism schools.
Yeah, you're right. It's been a

1684
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,280
bit the whole machine Unit has
been created to become just an

1685
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,770
instrument of the government and
what it wants that tells them

1686
01:40:04,770 --> 01:40:07,380
this and this, they have a press
conference and somebody comes

1687
01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:09,060
down and says Ball, ball, ball
ball ball, the only tools you're

1688
01:40:09,060 --> 01:40:12,390
gonna get us through this
microphone. Oh, okay. The only

1689
01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:15,420
truth we're gonna get is through
that microphone. Let me get my

1690
01:40:15,420 --> 01:40:20,010
pen. There. So the media's
becomes denied. ographers let me

1691
01:40:20,010 --> 01:40:21,480
get my tape recorder.

1692
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,230
Yeah, I'm gonna get my tape
recorder. So we if we're going

1693
01:40:25,230 --> 01:40:28,620
to be all in on the opposite
side, saying that there's a

1694
01:40:28,650 --> 01:40:32,580
bunch of setups and nobody's
really being harmed necessarily,

1695
01:40:32,580 --> 01:40:34,740
or there's or they're just
trying to scare the public or

1696
01:40:34,740 --> 01:40:37,200
whatever they're trying to do at
any given time. It seems to be

1697
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,780
different a little bit each
time. We have to assume there's

1698
01:40:39,780 --> 01:40:42,630
an event coming up on this 14th
And I went through a list I put

1699
01:40:42,630 --> 01:40:45,030
it in the newsletter of the
sorts of things that have

1700
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:48,180
happened so far. We've had
schools we have a government

1701
01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:51,630
facility in the Navy Yard, we've
had a marathon different I

1702
01:40:51,630 --> 01:40:56,580
have a thought I have a thought.
So this is our six week cycle,

1703
01:40:57,090 --> 01:41:01,170
where something has to happen to
keep the general population in

1704
01:41:01,170 --> 01:41:06,060
line. Learn how to shelter in
place, cower in the corner and

1705
01:41:06,060 --> 01:41:09,660
pay attention to the giant voice
system, which as you've noticed,

1706
01:41:09,660 --> 01:41:12,990
perhaps in the reporting a
couple of giant voice systems

1707
01:41:12,990 --> 01:41:16,980
have been going off and there's
been apologies and people with

1708
01:41:17,010 --> 01:41:22,920
iPhones Mickey has it now to the
iPhone group. And the look and

1709
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:27,960
this like Amber Alert. Oh guy
the in the car. Who knows you

1710
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:33,180
know what can't find him. I got
a tweet this morning amber alert

1711
01:41:33,180 --> 01:41:36,990
went off at a university, a
giant voice system. So you get

1712
01:41:36,990 --> 01:41:40,800
the the big the big. megaphones
are telling you what to do and

1713
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:46,800
this is complete and utter slave
compliance training. And I'm

1714
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:52,980
thinking the next event will be
a natural one. And I'm and I

1715
01:41:52,980 --> 01:41:55,620
hate to say it for yourself
could be I'm thinking

1716
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,620
earthquake, something nasty West
Coast being

1717
01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:01,440
an earthquake, Southern
California. Yeah. But I still

1718
01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:03,720
think there's still we're still
missing because there's good

1719
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,140
money to be made from a sporting
event. Because of the sporting

1720
01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:11,070
event goes. You have an event
there you end up with selling a

1721
01:42:11,070 --> 01:42:16,440
lot of goods and services and
training a lot of security

1722
01:42:16,440 --> 01:42:16,890
guards.

1723
01:42:17,610 --> 01:42:23,310
Sir Rob Adams, our nuke expert.
He said the only game around

1724
01:42:23,310 --> 01:42:24,960
that time is Army Navy.

1725
01:42:27,570 --> 01:42:31,080
Which is the fourth thing about
this? I've never actually

1726
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,360
thought it would be a football
game. There's too many

1727
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,990
witnesses. Yeah, I think it
would be like a basketball game.

1728
01:42:36,990 --> 01:42:39,960
Some place it would be it was
you're on all the time. There's

1729
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,500
a basketball game every night.
Somewhere. It'd be a basketball

1730
01:42:43,500 --> 01:42:45,780
game or a hockey game. The
hockey seasons be gone. You

1731
01:42:45,780 --> 01:42:48,090
could do it a hockey game be
real easy to control.

1732
01:42:48,299 --> 01:42:52,439
John, I just I think there's
more money to be made. Because

1733
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:56,009
right now we're sharp. Right?
We've we've been, we're cocked

1734
01:42:56,009 --> 01:43:00,509
and loaded the typhoon in the
Philippines. Clearly, clearly

1735
01:43:00,509 --> 01:43:04,649
climate change. It's so obvious
the science is in we all know

1736
01:43:04,649 --> 01:43:08,489
it's true. It's a fact. Okay.
And the fact that that we're

1737
01:43:08,489 --> 01:43:11,969
such a holes as rich West
people, I would actually say

1738
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:16,199
rich, white middle aged men,
because we're getting blamed for

1739
01:43:16,199 --> 01:43:20,699
everything that we don't want to
pay them. Right. That's why they

1740
01:43:20,699 --> 01:43:23,699
walked out of the climate
conference. I'm thinking you get

1741
01:43:23,699 --> 01:43:26,189
more mileage because they did
you hear they want to put an

1742
01:43:26,219 --> 01:43:30,419
early warning system up on the
north pole for when the ice

1743
01:43:30,419 --> 01:43:34,499
breaks. It's just it's billions
of dollars to be made in this

1744
01:43:34,499 --> 01:43:38,399
scam billions. I think there's
more to be made than what

1745
01:43:38,399 --> 01:43:42,269
Chertoff is thinking of with as
little security things. So while

1746
01:43:42,329 --> 01:43:45,119
certainly we'll see a good
sporting event, mishap take

1747
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:45,689
place, yeah,

1748
01:43:45,690 --> 01:43:50,220
but if this is the sociological
studies, that say that this is

1749
01:43:50,220 --> 01:43:54,180
psyops, Psyops and natural
disasters, I don't think is

1750
01:43:54,180 --> 01:43:57,030
gonna be Yeah, I think you're
right. There's tonnes of money

1751
01:43:57,030 --> 01:44:00,570
to be made off going in that
direction. But I still think

1752
01:44:00,570 --> 01:44:04,200
it's going to be some it's, you
know, it's gotta be homegrown

1753
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,180
terrorism or some sort of,

1754
01:44:06,210 --> 01:44:11,520
okay, okay. Okay. This leads me
into a couple of clips I have I

1755
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:16,200
was waiting for it. This is now
the two people who have

1756
01:44:16,230 --> 01:44:22,350
oversight in the United States
in Congress. Our Congressman

1757
01:44:22,350 --> 01:44:26,670
Mike Rogers, he has on the
Oversight Committee for the

1758
01:44:26,670 --> 01:44:30,720
representatives of the people of
the United States. And Senator

1759
01:44:30,750 --> 01:44:38,880
Dianne Feinstein, as she is on
the Oversight Committee. For the

1760
01:44:38,910 --> 01:44:42,060
for the Senate, for these united
for the people of the United

1761
01:44:42,060 --> 01:44:47,190
States. And they were on Candy
Crowley State of the Union

1762
01:44:47,190 --> 01:44:55,350
together. And I was blown away
by the fear mongering, the lies

1763
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,920
the way the condescending
attitude the way they're saying

1764
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,340
this like you If you watch the
video, which is it's in the show

1765
01:45:02,340 --> 01:45:07,920
notes 571 dot na shownotes.com
under video, you'll see Rogers

1766
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:11,790
is looking at Crowley, you know
how it's so funny because

1767
01:45:11,820 --> 01:45:13,620
there's, I don't I don't want to
say his name, but there's

1768
01:45:13,620 --> 01:45:17,100
someone we know who could talk
just like this. And, and they'll

1769
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:20,400
give you they'll talk to you
looking at you sideways, like,

1770
01:45:20,430 --> 01:45:22,620
hey, you know, this is some
really serious shit I'm talking

1771
01:45:22,620 --> 01:45:26,130
about right now. And that's why
I'm looking at you sideways. You

1772
01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:27,060
know what I mean? You know,

1773
01:45:27,060 --> 01:45:30,150
that sideways? Look, the
sideways guy is a constant

1774
01:45:30,150 --> 01:45:34,020
reminder that we are only one
missed piece of data away from

1775
01:45:34,020 --> 01:45:36,060
another terror attack against
the US.

1776
01:45:36,090 --> 01:45:39,990
This, by the way, is a great
setup from the news model. Oh,

1777
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:43,830
I'm sorry. She didn't go to the
right modelling school. But of

1778
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:46,110
course, she's Rubenesque. And,
you know, she get that

1779
01:45:46,110 --> 01:45:49,920
credibility. She literally just
said, were one piece of

1780
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,610
information or missed piece of
information away from death.

1781
01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:55,920
Just so you know, I recently

1782
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,590
spoke with the chairman of the
Senate and House intelligence

1783
01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:04,500
committees, Dianne Feinstein and
Mike Rogers. The big question

1784
01:46:04,500 --> 01:46:08,340
that's always asked, Are we
safer now than we were a year

1785
01:46:08,340 --> 01:46:09,600
ago? Two years ago?

1786
01:46:09,690 --> 01:46:13,140
Oh, John, do you want to give a
shot at the answer before Diane

1787
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:15,450
takes over? Or do you do you
want to

1788
01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:19,260
is this way is this the same
Dianne Feinstein who like what

1789
01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:24,330
four years ago asked these these
douchebags one after the other

1790
01:46:24,330 --> 01:46:28,320
that we're the head of the you
know, Homeland Security that if

1791
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,830
there was gonna be an advantage
in the military? Are we going to

1792
01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:36,330
have an attack on the homeland
in the next 60 days? This is the

1793
01:46:36,330 --> 01:46:38,790
same woman that would be the one
they all said yes.

1794
01:46:38,940 --> 01:46:41,670
Now if you wanted to scare
people, if you want to scare

1795
01:46:41,670 --> 01:46:46,050
them more than than normal what
would what is the if people

1796
01:46:46,050 --> 01:46:48,900
already afraid of let's say, I
don't know. Bombs? Let's just

1797
01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:51,870
take bombs for a second. What
would scare you more than just a

1798
01:46:51,870 --> 01:46:52,320
bomb?

1799
01:46:54,660 --> 01:46:56,640
Well, there's all kinds of
things that we didn't just a

1800
01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:00,600
bomb. I would say bird flu ramp
and bird flu in the Bay Area

1801
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,130
that would bother No, no,

1802
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,010
no, no, no. You got to think
simpler, but Okay, here we go.

1803
01:47:05,190 --> 01:47:06,150
In general.

1804
01:47:06,780 --> 01:47:11,760
I don't think so. I think tears
up worldwide. Terrorism

1805
01:47:11,790 --> 01:47:15,960
worldwide. This is six indicate
that the fatalities are way up.

1806
01:47:17,820 --> 01:47:23,040
The numbers are way up. There
are new bombs very big bombs,

1807
01:47:23,220 --> 01:47:27,300
trucks being reinforced for
those bombs. Their new boss she

1808
01:47:27,300 --> 01:47:27,960
talking

1809
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:32,280
about our new bombs, very big
bombs, trucks being enforced for

1810
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,700
the bombs. The numbers are up
the statistics don't lie. It's

1811
01:47:35,700 --> 01:47:40,590
all up more dead people listen
to it again. It's on ba lievable

1812
01:47:40,590 --> 01:47:41,310
what she's saying

1813
01:47:41,340 --> 01:47:47,550
way up. There the numbers are
way up. There are new bombs,

1814
01:47:47,580 --> 01:47:51,570
very big bombs trucks being
reinforced. For those bombs.

1815
01:47:51,570 --> 01:47:55,620
There are bombs that go through
magnetometers. The bomb maker is

1816
01:47:55,620 --> 01:48:00,780
still alive. There are more
groups than ever. And there is

1817
01:48:00,780 --> 01:48:02,970
huge malevolence out there

1818
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,560
huge malevolence doing

1819
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:08,760
a summary of the TV show
blacklist. bomb maker is still

1820
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:09,330
alive. That's

1821
01:48:09,330 --> 01:48:13,200
right. He's still alive. The guy
who makes the bombs that can go

1822
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:17,340
to the magnetometer. He's still
alive. He's making bombs. We're

1823
01:48:17,340 --> 01:48:20,910
not talking just regular bars.
We're talking very big bombs.

1824
01:48:20,910 --> 01:48:23,640
And there are trucks being
reinforced for these big bombs.

1825
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:24,810
I mean, this is she

1826
01:48:24,810 --> 01:48:28,800
knows I want to just go grab the
truck guy. Let's watch it grab

1827
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,720
the bomb and they know that he's
the bombs are out. Let's switch

1828
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:34,650
over to Rogers. By the way
before you you before you go on.

1829
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,890
Did you have to give yourself
Clip of the Day for that, Jim?

1830
01:48:38,820 --> 01:48:39,180
Oh, that's

1831
01:48:39,210 --> 01:48:43,080
that is that is very kind of
you. I think though. I'll take

1832
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:44,490
it. I'll take it now. And then

1833
01:48:45,570 --> 01:48:48,300
you grasp about it later. Just
take it Yeah, I haven't. Okay,

1834
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:49,860
big bombs.

1835
01:48:54,450 --> 01:48:57,840
Now, let's switch over to Rogers
Rogers is going to be asked to

1836
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,260
lay out kind of the you know,
he's got to start explaining,

1837
01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:04,170
you know, where the fear is
coming into, because it's not

1838
01:49:04,170 --> 01:49:06,930
just big bombs. No, I mean,
there's got to be more than that

1839
01:49:06,930 --> 01:49:07,260
same

1840
01:49:07,260 --> 01:49:10,110
very reason. So the pressure on
our intelligence services to get

1841
01:49:10,110 --> 01:49:13,620
it right to prevent an attack
are enormous. And it's getting

1842
01:49:13,620 --> 01:49:17,850
more difficult because we see
the al Qaeda as we knew it

1843
01:49:17,850 --> 01:49:20,340
before is metastasizing to
something different.

1844
01:49:20,370 --> 01:49:24,540
It's metastasizing into
something different. Okay,

1845
01:49:24,660 --> 01:49:27,990
more affiliates than we've ever
had before, meaning more groups

1846
01:49:27,990 --> 01:49:31,500
that are operated independently
of al Qaeda have now joined al

1847
01:49:31,500 --> 01:49:34,830
Qaeda around the world. All of
them have at least some

1848
01:49:34,830 --> 01:49:38,760
aspiration to commit an act of
violence in the United States or

1849
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,760
against Western targets. Every
single one of them hates all

1850
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,550
around the world. They've now
switched to this notion that

1851
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:48,510
maybe smaller events are okay,
so, John,

1852
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:55,530
hold on a second. We identified
this switch over probably. I

1853
01:49:55,530 --> 01:49:59,940
think it was after or before the
crotch bomber. Were they

1854
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,660
couldn't get any more of these
big events lined up, there was

1855
01:50:03,660 --> 01:50:06,210
no way you could I mean,
whatever have you know, this is

1856
01:50:06,210 --> 01:50:08,340
not going to do it correct?
We're not going to see it is

1857
01:50:08,340 --> 01:50:12,270
what it was. They wiped out most
of the al Qaeda guys who might

1858
01:50:12,270 --> 01:50:14,850
be able to dream something up,
right. And so then they switched

1859
01:50:14,850 --> 01:50:19,050
over the message to lots of
small events. Yes, yes. Now I

1860
01:50:19,050 --> 01:50:21,360
want to mention something here.
Just before we continue with

1861
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,630
this clip, there have been no
lots of small events, there have

1862
01:50:24,630 --> 01:50:29,700
been some scam events and some
dubious events that have hardly

1863
01:50:29,730 --> 01:50:31,860
done much damage to anybody. In
fact,

1864
01:50:31,890 --> 01:50:37,440
according to, to testimony, by
the people themselves, only one

1865
01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:40,470
actual event was thwarted. That
was a real event, all the rest

1866
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:45,480
was bull crap, or goaded by the
FBI into giving some guy a

1867
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:48,930
plastic box that says you call
that number, it'll explode. And

1868
01:50:48,930 --> 01:50:51,870
it doesn't because they've been
setting them up and feeding them

1869
01:50:51,870 --> 01:50:53,190
drugs or whatever.

1870
01:50:53,820 --> 01:50:57,900
So we don't have any evidence of
any of this. They're just found,

1871
01:50:57,900 --> 01:51:00,480
do you think these guys these
two idiots were working on

1872
01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:02,070
commission or something? Well,

1873
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:05,460
it's the political capital.
That's exactly what it is. And

1874
01:51:05,460 --> 01:51:10,410
these people also need to be
voted out as soon as possible.

1875
01:51:10,590 --> 01:51:15,300
This is Feinstein California,
where's Rogers from Michigan,

1876
01:51:15,330 --> 01:51:18,870
vote him out people, I don't
care who you put in, he's

1877
01:51:18,870 --> 01:51:22,350
clearly compromised. He's
compromised. He's sitting there

1878
01:51:22,350 --> 01:51:25,710
lying to you trying to frighten
you into submission

1879
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,800
to commit an act of violence in
the United States, or against

1880
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,830
Western targets all around the
world. They've now switched to

1881
01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:35,850
this notion that maybe smaller
events are okay. So if you have

1882
01:51:35,850 --> 01:51:38,940
more smaller events than bigger
events, they think that might

1883
01:51:38,940 --> 01:51:42,180
still lead to their objectives
and their goals that makes it

1884
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:45,870
exponentially harder for our
intelligence services to stop an

1885
01:51:45,870 --> 01:51:46,740
event like that, because

1886
01:51:46,740 --> 01:51:48,780
essentially, one person can do a
small amount of

1887
01:51:49,530 --> 01:51:52,710
thank you for being so helpful
candy, but yes, thank you for

1888
01:51:52,710 --> 01:51:56,190
completing the scripts. Yes, one
person, all it takes is one

1889
01:51:56,190 --> 01:51:58,530
crazy jihadi. Now we've got to

1890
01:51:58,530 --> 01:52:02,700
she asked a follow up question,
which would be that so does that

1891
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:05,820
mean that all this surveillance
and NSA snooping and all the

1892
01:52:05,820 --> 01:52:08,400
rest of it is pretty useless?
No, she say that?

1893
01:52:08,430 --> 01:52:12,180
No, she says exactly the
opposite. Exactly. Which will be

1894
01:52:12,210 --> 01:52:15,240
coming up in a moment. First, we
have to let Diane she has to

1895
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:19,080
talk about the jihad ease and
the lone wolf and and she had

1896
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:23,340
this at this point. I think
she'd had the P or she she loses

1897
01:52:23,340 --> 01:52:26,790
track. She does she loses the
plot. But it was her turn

1898
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:31,140
to talk. One of the things that
the senator said was that there

1899
01:52:31,140 --> 01:52:35,460
is more hatred out there more.
And why is that?

1900
01:52:35,490 --> 01:52:41,190
I think there is a real
displaced aggression in this

1901
01:52:41,220 --> 01:52:44,370
very fundamentalist jihadist
Islamic

1902
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,080
displaced are misplaced.

1903
01:52:46,110 --> 01:52:50,010
She said a did his place. She
says displaced. And she and she

1904
01:52:50,010 --> 01:52:54,360
literally just calls out Islam,
which is fun. And why

1905
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:58,680
is that? I think there is a real
displaced aggression.

1906
01:52:58,710 --> 01:53:03,630
What is why is that wrong when
she says displaced? Or why is it

1907
01:53:03,630 --> 01:53:04,680
actually correct?

1908
01:53:06,090 --> 01:53:07,200
I'm looking at it now.

1909
01:53:07,230 --> 01:53:09,210
I'll play the rest. Hey, COVID.
Okay.

1910
01:53:09,660 --> 01:53:14,250
This very fundamentalist,
jihadist Islamic community.

1911
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,280
Oh, it's a community. It's very
fundamental, small, it's

1912
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:18,750
Islamic. And it's a community
and

1913
01:53:18,750 --> 01:53:22,200
that is that the West is
responsible for everything that

1914
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,390
goes wrong. Oh, yes.

1915
01:53:24,450 --> 01:53:27,930
Okay. So here, here's the
difference. displace means that

1916
01:53:27,930 --> 01:53:32,580
one thing is taking the place of
another. But that doesn't have a

1917
01:53:32,580 --> 01:53:37,020
doesn't have any subtext,
whereas misplaced would say that

1918
01:53:37,020 --> 01:53:40,350
one thing is taking the place of
another but it's, it's wrong.

1919
01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:43,680
It's wrong. So she actually uses
the wrong word. He's saying they

1920
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,110
Yeah, they now they hate us. But
they probably should. She's

1921
01:53:46,110 --> 01:53:49,350
actually on the wrong side of
this argument by using that

1922
01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:49,740
word.

1923
01:53:49,799 --> 01:53:54,839
Well, is she or she words
matter? Ellen? Yeah, that what

1924
01:53:54,839 --> 01:53:57,149
the heart is full of the mouth
bubbles over with

1925
01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:00,930
and that the only thing that's
going to solve this is Islamic

1926
01:54:00,990 --> 01:54:04,260
Sharia law, and the concept of
the caliphate.

1927
01:54:04,350 --> 01:54:07,470
Okay, so now we know the
problem. The problem is,

1928
01:54:07,590 --> 01:54:11,190
we're doing wrong. We're doing
eight years behind the times on

1929
01:54:11,190 --> 01:54:13,410
this thing, but Okay, go on.
We're wrong.

1930
01:54:13,650 --> 01:54:16,890
And Sharia law will solve it
along with the concept of the

1931
01:54:16,890 --> 01:54:18,120
caliphate. So Oh,

1932
01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:23,430
hi, actually, that's what she
said. Hi, Diane, welcome. Yes,

1933
01:54:23,460 --> 01:54:28,710
and I see more groups Group more
fundamentalist, more jihadist

1934
01:54:28,740 --> 01:54:33,930
more determined to kill to get
to where they want to get. So

1935
01:54:35,220 --> 01:54:39,540
it's not an isolated phenomenon.
You see, these groups spread a

1936
01:54:39,540 --> 01:54:41,340
web of connections.

1937
01:54:41,370 --> 01:54:45,510
So she's so out of it at this
point, that she is now taking

1938
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:49,320
this full circle from its
individuals who can blow us up

1939
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:55,230
but they created a web and we're
in their evil web of Sharia law

1940
01:54:55,230 --> 01:54:59,220
and the caliphate and they're
going to kill she said kill net

1941
01:54:59,220 --> 01:54:59,970
she had killed her

1942
01:55:00,210 --> 01:55:04,050
And this includes North Africa.
It includes the Middle East, it

1943
01:55:04,050 --> 01:55:06,510
includes other areas as well,

1944
01:55:06,540 --> 01:55:09,390
all the great places we've got
to send our troops back to

1945
01:55:09,390 --> 01:55:12,600
Rogers lay out the fear points.
Rogers. So what

1946
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,930
you see what's happening in a
place like Syria, where you have

1947
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:20,430
a pooling of al Qaeda members
and affiliates of al Qaeda in a

1948
01:55:20,430 --> 01:55:22,740
way we've never seen before. We
brought

1949
01:55:22,740 --> 01:55:27,240
them there. We sent them there.
We sent them weapons and arms.

1950
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,840
What do you mean, we've got he
actually is saying we've got not

1951
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:34,080
we're seeing we have? No, he's
saying it's, we oh, you see

1952
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:34,260
what's

1953
01:55:34,260 --> 01:55:38,490
happening in a place like Syria,
where you have a pooling of al

1954
01:55:38,490 --> 01:55:42,240
Qaeda members and affiliates of
al Qaeda in a way we've never

1955
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,600
seen before, at the level of
numbers that we have never seen

1956
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:50,460
before. And here's the scary
part of this. Some 1000s of

1957
01:55:50,460 --> 01:55:54,240
people showing up bound to
participate in that when their

1958
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:58,500
mind jihadist effort wait for
our Westerners, they're coming

1959
01:55:58,500 --> 01:56:03,150
back. Meaning they have Western
passports, a percentage of them

1960
01:56:03,150 --> 01:56:06,090
have already gone home,
including the United States, by

1961
01:56:06,090 --> 01:56:09,600
the way is included in that
Western number. We've we are

1962
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,930
very, very concerned that these
folks who have Western paper

1963
01:56:12,930 --> 01:56:16,320
have gone there participated in
combat events, troops are

1964
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:20,700
trained are further radicalised
now have the ability to go back

1965
01:56:20,700 --> 01:56:22,080
in Western countries

1966
01:56:22,110 --> 01:56:23,760
it could be my neighbour

1967
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:27,090
a way knows all the evidence of
this. I don't see bridges

1968
01:56:27,090 --> 01:56:30,960
blowing up buildings being
toppled, just kidnappings zones.

1969
01:56:31,290 --> 01:56:33,330
Nothing going on because

1970
01:56:33,390 --> 01:56:38,850
of our the men and women in our
intelligence community have been

1971
01:56:38,850 --> 01:56:44,700
stopping this 14 This we've been
there's at least 54 cases you

1972
01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:47,610
are safe citizen, you're safe
citizen, because

1973
01:56:47,790 --> 01:56:51,420
we are awesome, that that tray,

1974
01:56:51,450 --> 01:56:54,030
well apply that trait and now
they have a connection, a direct

1975
01:56:54,030 --> 01:56:56,640
connection to al Qaeda
affiliates operating in a place

1976
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,980
where most people would say,
well, we have no interests in

1977
01:56:58,980 --> 01:57:04,560
Syria. Well, clearly we do.
Clearly. That's just one place

1978
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,590
and it's starting to spread. You
saw what happened in Lebanon

1979
01:57:07,590 --> 01:57:11,670
recently, where they blew up the
Iranian embassy, this is all

1980
01:57:11,670 --> 01:57:14,910
starting to scratch. Iraq is
having its problems now. It's

1981
01:57:14,910 --> 01:57:19,200
spreading into Jordan has
issues. Turkey along the turkey

1982
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:22,440
has issues. This is very, very,
very concerned. It's

1983
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:24,750
very concerned. I'm very
concerned. I'm very afraid.

1984
01:57:25,019 --> 01:57:27,929
They're doing such a great job
of protecting us play the no fly

1985
01:57:27,929 --> 01:57:28,799
list clip.

1986
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:34,020
A little intervention by Dvorak,
six year old Alyssa Thomas, like

1987
01:57:34,020 --> 01:57:34,890
any little girl.

1988
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,840
She loves her dolls. She's
already excited about the first

1989
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,410
grade. But according to the US
government, you should be

1990
01:57:43,410 --> 01:57:45,090
worried about what she's up to.

1991
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:49,920
We're like puzzled, I'm like,
Well, you know, she's kind of

1992
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,220
six years old. This is not
something that should be

1993
01:57:53,220 --> 01:57:55,110
typical, but like, Well, okay,

1994
01:57:55,140 --> 01:57:59,010
Dr. Santosh Thomas was just made
aware that his oldest daughter

1995
01:57:59,010 --> 01:58:03,390
is on the list, the tariff watch
list that impacts travellers who

1996
01:58:03,390 --> 01:58:06,810
could be a threat to national
security, a list his parents

1997
01:58:06,810 --> 01:58:09,420
found out at the continental
check in counter during the

1998
01:58:09,420 --> 01:58:12,420
recent trip from Cleveland to
Minneapolis. Well,

1999
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:14,670
you know, you're laughing about
that John

2000
01:58:14,700 --> 01:58:17,400
Doe might be going to
Minneapolis to blow it up. Don

2001
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:17,880
roffe

2002
01:58:18,540 --> 01:58:21,840
Shut up, don't laugh. She could
have a plastic bomb in her

2003
01:58:21,870 --> 01:58:25,650
there is now a bomb that can go
through magnetometers people can

2004
01:58:25,650 --> 01:58:30,120
get on aircraft with those
bombs. They have tried to send

2005
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:34,200
four of them into this country,
two of them in printer

2006
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:39,420
cartridges, one by Abdulmutallab
and one an asset was able to

2007
01:58:39,420 --> 01:58:44,220
obtain SVM and these were coming
into this country two of them

2008
01:58:44,460 --> 01:58:47,640
aimed at synagogues in Illinois,

2009
01:58:47,670 --> 01:58:50,250
I'd forgotten about that. That
was good. Now.

2010
01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:54,930
magnetometer got to do with a
printer cartridge, nothing

2011
01:58:56,370 --> 01:58:57,810
printed card, you gotta walk it
through.

2012
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:01,110
Just why is that a printer
cartridge up your butt? Yeah.

2013
01:59:01,140 --> 01:59:05,520
Okay. No worries. Well, here's
the answer to your to your

2014
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:06,420
question, actually.

2015
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:09,990
here so you think about what's
happened with the recent

2016
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:13,620
disclosures we have now three al
Qaeda affiliate groups have

2017
01:59:13,620 --> 01:59:16,560
changed the way they communicate
means it's less likely that

2018
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:20,280
we're going to be able to detect
something prior to an event that

2019
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:23,460
goes operational meaning that
they've already started the the

2020
01:59:23,460 --> 01:59:26,670
final planning stages to blow
something up, here comes the

2021
01:59:26,670 --> 01:59:30,480
final word or shoot someone. And
so we're fighting amongst

2022
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:32,790
ourselves here in this country
about the role of our

2023
01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:36,990
intelligence community that is
having an impact on our ability

2024
01:59:37,050 --> 01:59:40,650
to stop what is a growing number
of threats. And so we've got to

2025
01:59:40,650 --> 01:59:44,220
shake ourselves out of this
pretty soon and understand that

2026
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,830
our intelligence services are
not the bad guys.

2027
01:59:46,860 --> 01:59:51,090
There you go. That's the final
word. We're not the bad guys.

2028
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:54,720
The bad guys, the al Qaeda
affiliates, Russian intelligence

2029
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:56,640
services, especially US
intelligence are all

2030
01:59:57,330 --> 02:00:00,510
gonna write it down. Let me hold
on a second al Qaeda Okay to

2031
02:00:00,510 --> 02:00:03,810
affiliates, Russian
intelligence, Chinese

2032
02:00:03,810 --> 02:00:07,170
intelligence. They're the bad
guys. Okay?

2033
02:00:07,350 --> 02:00:11,070
The Al Qaeda affiliates, Russian
intelligence services, Chinese

2034
02:00:11,070 --> 02:00:14,280
intelligence services, the Quds
force that operates terrorism

2035
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,550
events all around the world.
Those are the folks we need to

2036
02:00:17,550 --> 02:00:20,220
focus our attention and our
energy on in order to keep

2037
02:00:20,220 --> 02:00:20,880
America safe.

2038
02:00:20,910 --> 02:00:23,940
I think that this should be it
should be an international

2039
02:00:23,940 --> 02:00:24,870
scandal.

2040
02:00:25,020 --> 02:00:27,750
They think you're dead on on
this one this that would have

2041
02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:30,930
been Clip of the Day. You're
right. Because this idiot, you

2042
02:00:30,930 --> 02:00:32,970
can just say declared war on
Russia

2043
02:00:32,970 --> 02:00:37,050
and China. They're like alcohol
War on Terror includes

2044
02:00:37,050 --> 02:00:41,130
Russia and China, apparently.
Yes. This is how I'm blown up in

2045
02:00:41,130 --> 02:00:46,170
arms about this. This guy needs
to be removed from this

2046
02:00:46,170 --> 02:00:46,680
committee.

2047
02:00:47,190 --> 02:00:50,310
He needs to be removed from
Washington DC.

2048
02:00:50,370 --> 02:00:53,610
Yes, he does. People please. If
you want your Michigan folks,

2049
02:00:53,610 --> 02:00:57,540
you've gotten better than that.
The guy is a stooge.

2050
02:00:58,530 --> 02:01:02,820
Yeah, yes. But anyway, when you
see the video, and he's talking

2051
02:01:02,820 --> 02:01:06,210
to candy, looking sideways the
whole time he's saying it. And

2052
02:01:06,210 --> 02:01:08,850
he talks like this. I mean,
clearly, it's the al Qaeda and

2053
02:01:08,850 --> 02:01:11,520
the al Qaeda affiliates. And
it's the Russian Intelligence

2054
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:14,190
Service and the Chinese. These
are the bad guys. These are the

2055
02:01:14,190 --> 02:01:17,070
people trying to kill us people.
They're trying to kill us in

2056
02:01:17,070 --> 02:01:18,120
that right diet and just telling

2057
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:22,440
us that Russian intelligence is
trying to kill us. Yes, that's

2058
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:25,860
Chinese intelligence is over
here. Trying to set something up

2059
02:01:25,860 --> 02:01:28,920
and try to kill us. Yes. But he
said, Yeah,

2060
02:01:29,370 --> 02:01:38,100
exactly. Hmm. Meanwhile, of
course, the monetization of

2061
02:01:38,100 --> 02:01:41,490
Edward Snowden continues, as
does the conversation around

2062
02:01:41,490 --> 02:01:44,790
this getting kind of
interesting, Pierre Omidyar. We

2063
02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:47,460
get we need to either pronounce
his name properly or give him a

2064
02:01:47,460 --> 02:01:48,330
good nickname.

2065
02:01:48,450 --> 02:01:50,280
I think alMihdhar is fine.
alMihdhar.

2066
02:01:51,660 --> 02:01:53,910
It's got to be something that
irritates him a little bit when

2067
02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:54,750
we say it wrong.

2068
02:01:55,170 --> 02:01:57,450
He's never gonna listen to this
show in a million years.

2069
02:01:57,690 --> 02:01:59,460
But first of all, it caught him
Peter, I think that's kind of

2070
02:01:59,460 --> 02:02:02,070
funnier. Pete Pete Omidyar.

2071
02:02:03,630 --> 02:02:04,890
Pete Oh, Meteor.

2072
02:02:06,630 --> 02:02:13,560
Quito Meteor. I, he I guess he
had to finally write a piece

2073
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:19,620
which I doubt he wrote about the
PayPal shut down that

2074
02:02:20,370 --> 02:02:23,070
cost WikiLeaks its momentum,
right.

2075
02:02:23,490 --> 02:02:28,020
And he wrote a piece of which is
entitled WikiLeaks press freedom

2076
02:02:28,020 --> 02:02:33,060
and free expression in the
digital age, which I pooped my

2077
02:02:33,060 --> 02:02:39,750
pants laughing at the idiocy. He
turns it around, he turns around

2078
02:02:39,780 --> 02:02:48,450
a clear act that PayPal shut off
WikiLeaks for months. And even

2079
02:02:48,450 --> 02:02:51,450
though I think he's he says
fairly that you know, when

2080
02:02:51,450 --> 02:02:54,330
you're a publicly listed
company, and the government

2081
02:02:54,330 --> 02:02:56,580
says, Hey, you got to stop that,
which of course, they had no

2082
02:02:56,580 --> 02:03:01,650
right to do but Okay. He wrote
that, but the whole article is

2083
02:03:01,650 --> 02:03:06,990
about well, you know, what is
protests in the digital age? You

2084
02:03:06,990 --> 02:03:07,590
know, denial.

2085
02:03:09,210 --> 02:03:11,820
Yeah, you know, you have a link
to the show notes. I'm sure for

2086
02:03:11,820 --> 02:03:14,220
that. Alright. Yeah, yeah, of
course. So yeah, what was that

2087
02:03:14,220 --> 02:03:18,150
all about? It was like he was
all he was off the tracks off

2088
02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:21,690
the rails just going crazy with
these different assertions

2089
02:03:21,690 --> 02:03:27,240
trying to cover his bases as a
kind of a rich guy from Silicon

2090
02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:30,810
Valley, who really has the you
know, protect his wealth and

2091
02:03:30,810 --> 02:03:34,320
investors wealth. And then the
guy starting up this great

2092
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:37,500
newspaper or whatever, it's
going to be with the with a

2093
02:03:37,500 --> 02:03:43,260
bunch of left wingers. It's just
that I find it distressing to

2094
02:03:43,260 --> 02:03:43,650
read.

2095
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:50,040
Well, yes. And and I just want
to and of course, the

2096
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:56,280
conversation is now all about
the reporting and and Glenn

2097
02:03:56,280 --> 02:04:03,690
Greenwald and Pete Alma car, but
we're not really discussing the

2098
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:08,370
reporting itself, which is not
journalism. I'm sorry. It's just

2099
02:04:08,370 --> 02:04:12,090
not journalism. So we had this.
Two pages from another

2100
02:04:12,090 --> 02:04:17,550
PowerPoint deck, are published
by The Washington Post. And it's

2101
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:21,480
this now this time was Barton
Gellman, who was in on it was in

2102
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:27,300
on the the monetization. And the
title of the piece is NSA is

2103
02:04:27,420 --> 02:04:33,210
huge trove of location records.
And so what is being given to us

2104
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:36,600
and I'm just going to play
devil's advocate because I got

2105
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:41,340
nothing better to do. What is
given to us is two pages of a

2106
02:04:41,340 --> 02:04:45,300
PowerPoint deck. And page one
I'm looking at it right now.

2107
02:04:45,300 --> 02:04:50,970
It's it's from a programme
apparently called facia FAS CI

2108
02:04:50,970 --> 02:04:55,740
A, which could be split up as an
acronym as well, but we don't

2109
02:04:55,740 --> 02:05:00,210
know exactly. And it says
example of current volume As in

2110
02:05:00,210 --> 02:05:05,670
limits, and it's a it's a, it's
a bar graph, that when you look

2111
02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:12,450
at it, you can deduce that 5
million record 5 billion records

2112
02:05:12,450 --> 02:05:17,310
per year or per day are
collected by the day, per day.

2113
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:21,360
And then the second page of this
deck, which I'm sure there were

2114
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:25,890
more pages, because it's Page
five on the deck, this bar graph

2115
02:05:25,890 --> 02:05:32,580
and page 26. Is the the metadata
being collected, which is

2116
02:05:32,700 --> 02:05:35,250
locational. You think there
might be more to it?

2117
02:05:35,430 --> 02:05:39,450
Yes. And it's a fucking
PowerPoint deck. This is not

2118
02:05:39,450 --> 02:05:44,580
proof. This is not proof. I'm
just gonna say it. It's not

2119
02:05:44,580 --> 02:05:49,230
proof. Yeah, it's it says it's a
big pile of smoke. And I'd like

2120
02:05:49,230 --> 02:05:52,380
to know about it. But you need
sources, interviews,

2121
02:05:52,380 --> 02:05:56,250
confirmation or denials, you
need more than this. This is

2122
02:05:56,280 --> 02:06:00,660
this is not journalism. This is
republishing, or whatever you

2123
02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:04,980
want to call it. And it makes me
mad that people buy into it now.

2124
02:06:04,980 --> 02:06:12,180
Do I suspect it's true? Sure.
But it's not journalism. It's

2125
02:06:12,180 --> 02:06:16,020
just not? Or is it? Well, I

2126
02:06:16,020 --> 02:06:18,870
would say if with the
redefinitions that are taking

2127
02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:23,370
place, notably with WikiLeaks,
where they would take a pile of

2128
02:06:23,370 --> 02:06:26,280
stuff and just put it out there
and then call it journalism,

2129
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:26,640
because

2130
02:06:26,910 --> 02:06:29,790
even WikiLeaks didn't really do
that. John, they really

2131
02:06:29,790 --> 02:06:32,790
know they still date well, with
with our stuff. But with other

2132
02:06:32,790 --> 02:06:36,600
stuff, if you look, WikiLeaks
over the years, has essentially

2133
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:39,690
taken a pile of stuff and put it
out there. And yeah, there has

2134
02:06:39,690 --> 02:06:43,110
been stuff stuff that's been
looked at by the government

2135
02:06:43,140 --> 02:06:48,840
first. So there is a scam
involved in that. But no, I've

2136
02:06:49,410 --> 02:06:54,630
all I've seen is they take a
PowerPoint slide. Put it up,

2137
02:06:54,660 --> 02:06:57,540
it's almost like a creative
creative writing exercise in

2138
02:06:57,540 --> 02:07:02,340
high school. Here write an essay
about this slide. And so they

2139
02:07:02,340 --> 02:07:04,800
get the slide it says they're
they're following people around

2140
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:08,640
on their phones, which I believe
it's probably true that this

2141
02:07:08,670 --> 02:07:11,400
constitutes the evidence it
could have been fake for I mean,

2142
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:13,920
I don't know who did this slide.
I never met the guy could be

2143
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:17,760
bullcrap. Yes. The NSA failing
to deny it, but do they don't

2144
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:19,680
want to talk about anything
anyway, so you don't even know

2145
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:20,430
if that's true. Well, so

2146
02:07:20,430 --> 02:07:23,100
here's how here's how the
Washington Post gets away with

2147
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:27,030
this. So the article is by
Barton Gellman and ashcan

2148
02:07:27,030 --> 02:07:31,410
Soltani. So you got to look why
do you don't have to believe me?

2149
02:07:31,650 --> 02:07:35,640
OSH tonsil, Connie is a
consultant. He's a he's a I

2150
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:39,840
could do his job. He is a
technology consultant. He's the

2151
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:42,570
kind of guy that says yes,
Google Glass is very effective.

2152
02:07:43,230 --> 02:07:46,740
And the article is NSA tracking
cell phone locations worldwide

2153
02:07:46,740 --> 02:07:51,270
Snowden documents show. And then
it says this is the this is the

2154
02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:54,270
article the National Security
Agency is gathering nearly 5

2155
02:07:54,270 --> 02:07:56,670
billion records a day on the
whereabouts of cell phones

2156
02:07:56,670 --> 02:07:59,730
around the world according to
top secret documents and

2157
02:07:59,730 --> 02:08:03,210
interviews with US intelligence
officials. What interviews it's

2158
02:08:03,210 --> 02:08:06,420
not a single interview, not a
single thing printed in this

2159
02:08:06,420 --> 02:08:10,650
entire the piece in The
Washington Post, which I might

2160
02:08:10,650 --> 02:08:14,400
want to point out. He's now
owned by Jeff Bezos, who's on

2161
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:20,280
the level on the level of of
Pete on the car. Okay, another

2162
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:21,540
Silicon Valley guy

2163
02:08:21,870 --> 02:08:23,370
who, who

2164
02:08:23,730 --> 02:08:30,810
poned the journalism on Cyber
Monday with this huge bull crap

2165
02:08:30,810 --> 02:08:34,950
story about Amazon drones
delivering packages, which I

2166
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:38,460
might want to point out. Every
single mainstream news outfit

2167
02:08:38,490 --> 02:08:42,780
fell for hook line and sinker.
Not me. No, of course not you.

2168
02:08:43,020 --> 02:08:45,360
But PC Magazine didn't publish
your column.

2169
02:08:45,930 --> 02:08:48,480
Yeah, they did it. They've ran
on Wednesday. Oh, okay. Well, it

2170
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:51,540
took took them long enough.
Yeah, I asked him why it was an

2171
02:08:51,540 --> 02:08:54,210
update. All your comms go up on
Wednesday. Now

2172
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,430
I know what's going on with
them. You don't have to say it.

2173
02:08:57,690 --> 02:08:58,200
Whatever the

2174
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:00,630
case it went up on Wednesday and
they kept the good lines in

2175
02:09:00,630 --> 02:09:01,500
there. So that's not

2176
02:09:01,530 --> 02:09:06,660
and it was it was the 60 minutes
it was Charlie Rose. These

2177
02:09:06,660 --> 02:09:10,290
people are should be should be
banned from does their card.

2178
02:09:10,290 --> 02:09:12,900
It's like a press card. It
should be taken away from them.

2179
02:09:14,070 --> 02:09:16,590
Because that wasn't that's
journalism. That's your

2180
02:09:16,590 --> 02:09:18,150
highfalutin journalism.

2181
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:21,870
Actually, I have a quote from
the interview in the column

2182
02:09:21,900 --> 02:09:25,320
which I should probably open up
and just read it please do. Part

2183
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:27,780
of part of roses.

2184
02:09:29,220 --> 02:09:34,140
Journalism style. Go to PC
mag.com Real quick. Just take a

2185
02:09:34,140 --> 02:09:34,470
second.

2186
02:09:36,330 --> 02:09:39,600
To have that clip of Charlie
Rose sounding really crappy.

2187
02:09:39,630 --> 02:09:42,840
No, that creepy clip that you
have that clip? That's the one

2188
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:45,780
where he leans who is talking to
some woman he says what's it

2189
02:09:45,780 --> 02:09:48,900
like to be sexy? I think it's
something like that Angelina

2190
02:09:48,900 --> 02:09:52,350
Jolie wasn't always Angelina
Jolie. I don't think I have that

2191
02:09:52,350 --> 02:09:57,150
clip anymore. For some Oh, don't
throw clips away. I can't find

2192
02:09:57,150 --> 02:09:58,410
maybe mislabeled

2193
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,930
again. Let me just read the last
paragraph. Why the media doesn't

2194
02:10:00,930 --> 02:10:03,210
see this as a bad idea giving
away the milk as it were as

2195
02:10:03,210 --> 02:10:06,030
always baffling Bezos Czone
interesting character to

2196
02:10:06,030 --> 02:10:08,940
business owners with my Myers
plug I'm saying Why did Bezos is

2197
02:10:08,940 --> 02:10:12,030
getting attention right to the
public is no Kim Kardashian yet

2198
02:10:12,030 --> 02:10:15,540
we run uncritical puff pieces as
though he were to make it work

2199
02:10:15,540 --> 02:10:19,200
60 minutes uses uses fawning
softballs, Charlie.

2200
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,420
Slow it down because it's a good
article. Slow it down. Take your

2201
02:10:21,420 --> 02:10:23,100
time to make it work.

2202
02:10:23,130 --> 02:10:27,810
60 minutes uses fawning soft
baller, Charlie. I never met a

2203
02:10:27,810 --> 02:10:35,310
rich guy I didn't like Rhodes.
Good one. For Bezos. He is the

2204
02:10:35,310 --> 02:10:39,690
perfect interviewer. Here's an
example of roses probing style.

2205
02:10:40,290 --> 02:10:44,280
Jeff Bezos, you come and get
your package. And we can do

2206
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:49,110
that. I know we can do half hour
delivery. Charlie Rose, half

2207
02:10:49,140 --> 02:10:55,860
hour delivery, Bezos half hour
delivery. Anyway, that's the

2208
02:10:55,860 --> 02:10:56,160
kind of

2209
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:04,140
will people go read that column?
I'll put a link to it in the in

2210
02:11:04,140 --> 02:11:08,490
the show notes. Yeah. And so
this is what journalism has

2211
02:11:08,490 --> 02:11:15,090
become. And it's unnecessary.
Yeah, there, there's no need for

2212
02:11:15,090 --> 02:11:19,620
it whatsoever. It's compromised
from beginning to end. Don't

2213
02:11:19,620 --> 02:11:26,190
think for a second, CBS is not
compromised by Amazon. Please.

2214
02:11:26,850 --> 02:11:30,870
And doing this on a day when
it's Cyber Monday, everyone

2215
02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:33,870
needs to be thinking about
Amazon. It was a commercial, if

2216
02:11:33,870 --> 02:11:36,690
they didn't get paid for it.
They should send a bill after

2217
02:11:36,690 --> 02:11:40,380
the fact. But then look at all
of the newspapers all of them.

2218
02:11:40,590 --> 02:11:42,390
Yes, this is fantastic.

2219
02:11:43,140 --> 02:11:46,380
The stupidest thing I've ever
seen. My tweet was that say

2220
02:11:46,380 --> 02:11:49,500
suppose it could lift five
pounds, that box was empty. This

2221
02:11:49,500 --> 02:11:49,650
is

2222
02:11:49,650 --> 02:11:54,030
not going to happen. This is not
going to happen. You know, if

2223
02:11:54,030 --> 02:11:56,460
you think this is going to
happen, then where's your

2224
02:11:56,460 --> 02:12:00,750
where's my flying car? This will
not happen. It's just not that

2225
02:12:00,750 --> 02:12:05,100
happen. It's not possible. It is
it's a nightmare. It's not it's

2226
02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:08,430
not even within the realm of
possibility of happening you you

2227
02:12:08,430 --> 02:12:10,170
can't even say it is not going
to happen.

2228
02:12:10,320 --> 02:12:13,500
It's well yeah, I can say that.
And but I'm also going to say

2229
02:12:13,500 --> 02:12:17,190
it's just like the driverless
car. It's not going to happen

2230
02:12:17,190 --> 02:12:19,260
very soon. You it's just

2231
02:12:19,260 --> 02:12:22,500
never going to happen. The
driverless car could happen is

2232
02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:24,660
the driverless cars on a street
that's paved, and

2233
02:12:25,500 --> 02:12:30,840
it's going going to take off the
back way, decades, it's going to

2234
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:35,220
take decades before the
driverless car is on the street,

2235
02:12:35,250 --> 02:12:38,070
put it in the book, we'll both
be dead before this is

2236
02:12:38,070 --> 02:12:41,910
mainstream transportation. And I
will come back and laugh at you.

2237
02:12:43,620 --> 02:12:48,300
It's not going to happen anyway.
My point would be there is no

2238
02:12:48,330 --> 02:12:54,090
journalism in today's world. And
I'm not to belabour the point

2239
02:12:54,090 --> 02:12:57,270
and you know, and I know that
you work for them. But look at

2240
02:12:57,270 --> 02:13:02,910
who's advertising on PC
Magazine. It's the model is

2241
02:13:02,910 --> 02:13:05,970
broken. You don't need a
network. You don't need to have

2242
02:13:05,970 --> 02:13:09,180
a group you don't need to have a
sugar daddy venture capital

2243
02:13:09,180 --> 02:13:13,260
Silicon Valley bitch to pay you.
You don't need it. Glen

2244
02:13:13,260 --> 02:13:19,650
greenwall. I'm happy if you just
want to sell the documents and

2245
02:13:19,650 --> 02:13:23,130
stories about the documents to
individual newspapers. It's a

2246
02:13:23,130 --> 02:13:26,640
great business model. Nothing
wrong with it. I'm all for it do

2247
02:13:26,790 --> 02:13:31,230
but you don't need Pierre on the
car for it. What do you need him

2248
02:13:31,230 --> 02:13:34,890
for? Because you need a lease
vehicle or something?

2249
02:13:35,130 --> 02:13:39,090
A lot of people really enjoy
working for someone. Well, we

2250
02:13:39,090 --> 02:13:41,610
don't even know if he's working
for working with Is he a

2251
02:13:41,610 --> 02:13:46,740
shareholder? Is he is he
beholden to that? You know, we

2252
02:13:46,740 --> 02:13:49,530
don't know the deal. You need
some not thou son you need

2253
02:13:49,530 --> 02:13:53,340
transparency. You're done. We'll
never get that. No Greenwald.

2254
02:13:53,340 --> 02:13:57,630
You're dumb. You're stupid for
doing it this way. And you sold

2255
02:13:57,630 --> 02:14:00,390
yourself out because you
couldn't keep your fat trap

2256
02:14:00,390 --> 02:14:05,700
shut. You were so warning about
this deal. You were so turned on

2257
02:14:05,700 --> 02:14:11,250
that You leaked it yourself to
BuzzFeed you moron. And I think

2258
02:14:11,250 --> 02:14:14,640
that will fail and then you've
hired Jay Rosen. Are you kidding

2259
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:19,290
me? Now people, if you want
anything that is at least

2260
02:14:19,290 --> 02:14:21,840
honest. This is the place you
need to be.

2261
02:14:25,380 --> 02:14:28,740
Well, with that in mind, yes,
indeed. I'm gonna show my son

2262
02:14:28,740 --> 02:14:30,630
moved by donation to no agenda.

2263
02:14:30,690 --> 02:14:33,810
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2264
02:14:41,460 --> 02:14:44,220
Yeah, we didn't get much action
today. I have to say how's our

2265
02:14:44,220 --> 02:14:45,480
model working out John?

2266
02:14:45,930 --> 02:14:50,490
Brett Beecham likes the season
Serena? Queensland, Australia

2267
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:54,630
$111.11 Hi guys. Great show. Can
I get a D douching and a call to

2268
02:14:54,630 --> 02:14:58,080
stage Roberta from early beach
or Airlie Beach

2269
02:14:58,110 --> 02:15:02,070
we have we do have to make it
rains then which

2270
02:15:02,130 --> 02:15:07,080
we have three actually we got
merit Femke and my Berta so I'll

2271
02:15:07,230 --> 02:15:14,910
okay well let me firstly do shim
you've been de deuced okay does

2272
02:15:15,210 --> 02:15:17,070
Are you ready to do some of
this? Yeah I guess so.

2273
02:15:17,940 --> 02:15:19,890
Okay. Okay

2274
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:25,320
mainstage calling up Roberta
from Airlie Beach you've ever

2275
02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:27,960
heard this lovely lady who like
Harry Potter likes Harry Potter

2276
02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:30,990
and the Clint Eastwood movies.
Get your Fistful of Dollars

2277
02:15:30,990 --> 02:15:35,250
ready for Robert ah just going
married and Femke to the

2278
02:15:35,250 --> 02:15:38,580
champagne room boys you do not
want to miss these two beauties

2279
02:15:38,580 --> 02:15:42,930
are ambidextrous and contortion
is bend your elbows for merit

2280
02:15:42,930 --> 02:15:43,980
and Femke

2281
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:52,320
good work Finca but okay, we
know Femke

2282
02:15:53,220 --> 02:15:55,080
what? Indeed material

2283
02:15:56,340 --> 02:15:57,330
we need material.

2284
02:15:57,720 --> 02:15:59,970
Yeah, they need material that
this what they do they make some

2285
02:15:59,970 --> 02:16:00,930
joke. Yeah.

2286
02:16:01,320 --> 02:16:02,730
Girls it was it was pretty good.

2287
02:16:05,940 --> 02:16:10,560
All right. Onward. Sir. Borislav
Marin off our buddy in Aliso

2288
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:14,550
Viejo, California. $88.88 a
bunch of eights. Oh, hold

2289
02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:19,950
on a second. I know what he's
looking for. He's looking for

2290
02:16:22,530 --> 02:16:23,940
little ham eights. Yep. Got it.

2291
02:16:24,210 --> 02:16:27,090
animates me says you got a
birthday coming up. We got him

2292
02:16:27,090 --> 02:16:31,560
on the list. David Kane and
Elkhorn Wisconsin. $70. It's got

2293
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:34,770
to know agenda blog.com Check it
out. No agenda blog.com was a

2294
02:16:34,770 --> 02:16:39,480
feature you know agenda style
articles. Well, this is a feed

2295
02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:41,610
from no agenda, news network.

2296
02:16:42,359 --> 02:16:50,309
This is of course, no, this is
not the right name. This is our

2297
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:53,459
guy from no agenda. cd.com isn't
it? David?

2298
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:55,860
David yet Kane? There's no
agenda CD guy.

2299
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,710
Why am I thinking it's not David
Holmes. I got an email from let

2300
02:16:58,710 --> 02:16:59,640
me just double check it well,

2301
02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:02,880
while you're doing that, I'll
read Michael Greer. Shrek cine.

2302
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:12,750
Shinae. Pennsylvania, Ginny hit
it. Oh. Once this was on the

2303
02:17:12,750 --> 02:17:21,270
first loving macera well, I'll
ever Kyrie Lee like Caroline's

2304
02:17:21,270 --> 02:17:25,980
cool, brother, Kai. We'll see if
you can pronounce that it might

2305
02:17:26,010 --> 02:17:27,570
have you might have a clue.

2306
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:32,070
Cree lies, Cree lights. I cannot
carry carry lice carry.

2307
02:17:33,059 --> 02:17:38,909
Berlin Deutschland. You realise
it's Greek. It's a Greek name.

2308
02:17:38,909 --> 02:17:42,509
He says Now they say look at his
thing. Anonymous. Los Angeles,

2309
02:17:42,509 --> 02:17:47,489
California. 6969. wants to do so
it's been a boner for a while

2310
02:17:47,489 --> 02:17:51,059
now. He's a donor clay. Bow
brought

2311
02:17:51,059 --> 02:17:52,949
up che you think so?

2312
02:17:53,190 --> 02:17:56,310
Yeah. But But up to Santa. Yeah.
Tucson. Arizona is where all a

2313
02:17:56,310 --> 02:17:58,410
lot of know a lot of Yeah,

2314
02:17:58,469 --> 02:18:01,499
Tony. So he sent a couple
emails. He sent one Sunday and

2315
02:18:01,499 --> 02:18:07,769
said, John scooped me. But then
I looked at his email and he

2316
02:18:07,769 --> 02:18:13,769
sent it it came in at 1:30am.
The cutoff is midnight.

2317
02:18:14,039 --> 02:18:17,939
Yeah. Well, Arizona is on their
own time. That's the weird thing

2318
02:18:17,939 --> 02:18:21,119
about that state. So maybe he
thought he was getting in I know

2319
02:18:21,119 --> 02:18:21,269
but

2320
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:25,200
then that still would have been
12 because that one hour away

2321
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:28,080
from you. Yeah. But anyway, Clay
Thank you very much. And he

2322
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:30,540
actually sent me another email
today said I know donations are

2323
02:18:30,540 --> 02:18:33,360
down. Hope you saw mine. I sent
it in Saturday night. You guys

2324
02:18:33,360 --> 02:18:36,000
missed it in the last show. So
that was I think that was just a

2325
02:18:36,030 --> 02:18:39,180
well here it is 6969 And that
closes the segment and we don't

2326
02:18:39,180 --> 02:18:43,230
need to play anymore. Robert
Blair and early Airlie Beach get

2327
02:18:43,230 --> 02:18:48,780
oh, he gave us another 5678
Besides the the $200

2328
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:54,540
No, wait, does that make him I
think that makes him executive

2329
02:18:54,540 --> 02:18:55,260
producers. Well,

2330
02:18:55,980 --> 02:19:00,870
okay, put them up there. Good.
Good. Catch. Robert Blair are

2331
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:05,340
just said Oh, Robert Blair on my
thinking. Michael Van Laurie in

2332
02:19:05,370 --> 02:19:10,950
Rochester, New York of 5150. As
we quickly run out of names,

2333
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:13,170
he's got a birthday coming up
and put them on the list. Jeremy

2334
02:19:13,170 --> 02:19:16,410
Alexander Mount Airy, Maryland.
50 bucks also $50 from

2335
02:19:16,410 --> 02:19:22,260
Christopher Walker. And Matthew
Janis zoo ski in Chicago. Also

2336
02:19:22,260 --> 02:19:29,340
50 From my Alex Martinez bath
and Avon. Friend CI m ci

2337
02:19:29,340 --> 02:19:33,480
werster. Wooster, Massachusetts,
Massachusetts. I'm sorry, got

2338
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:37,110
their name wrong. Brett Farrell,
Oklahoma City, and that will do

2339
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:39,870
it. That's all we got. That's
what we get after Thanksgiving.

2340
02:19:39,870 --> 02:19:43,530
It's the typical situation that
we run into. When we have a long

2341
02:19:43,530 --> 02:19:46,290
holiday people. Nobody's
listening. No, I'm

2342
02:19:46,290 --> 02:19:48,870
very loud. I'm very happy. I
didn't do anything with those

2343
02:19:48,900 --> 02:19:52,590
Sandy Hook tapes. I'm happy I
didn't watch C span to get that

2344
02:19:52,590 --> 02:19:55,350
Duncan Hunter douchebag I'm
really happy. I didn't do

2345
02:19:55,350 --> 02:19:57,060
anything because I feel like
that would have been really

2346
02:19:57,060 --> 02:19:59,340
unfair. If I'd done all that
work anywhere else.

2347
02:19:59,820 --> 02:20:05,100
That's way goes okay
vorak.org/and A help us out

2348
02:20:05,100 --> 02:20:05,370
people

2349
02:20:05,370 --> 02:20:06,330
for the Sunday show

2350
02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:17,429
Mike Nikolai Chuck 30 for his
age on.

2351
02:20:17,759 --> 02:20:20,759
Well that's what he turned
yesterday. Happy Birthday Mike

2352
02:20:20,759 --> 02:20:24,869
loves Porter the show Chris. I
stopped celebrating along with

2353
02:20:24,869 --> 02:20:30,059
the surf Baris love Marin and
Michael Vaughan. lar. 36. Today

2354
02:20:30,059 --> 02:20:32,999
happy birthday from your friends
who had the best podcast in the

2355
02:20:32,999 --> 02:20:39,749
universe. And then we have a
Chris Jacob longtime supporter

2356
02:20:39,749 --> 02:20:44,939
of the show Bullseye he's what
is that? Is that doesn't Oh,

2357
02:20:44,939 --> 02:20:47,339
just see if that's the name of
keep forgetting the name. Hold

2358
02:20:47,339 --> 02:20:52,739
on. What's he he has a he has a
gun gun thing going on? Let me

2359
02:20:52,739 --> 02:20:55,409
see what it is. I think it's
Bullseye USA. Yeah, Bullseye

2360
02:20:55,409 --> 02:21:02,099
usa.com. He becomes a baron.
He's the Baron of Carson Valley,

2361
02:21:02,189 --> 02:21:06,599
Nevada. And we welcome him.
That's his protectorate. So if

2362
02:21:06,599 --> 02:21:07,049
you have

2363
02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:12,690
if you're up in Nevada, Nevada,
Nevada, Nevada, Nevada. He has

2364
02:21:12,690 --> 02:21:13,140
Nevada

2365
02:21:13,140 --> 02:21:16,560
Nevada. Well, he has I don't
know if he lives there. I know

2366
02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:20,130
he has a store. There is a store
in California gives a couple of

2367
02:21:20,220 --> 02:21:23,400
tours visiting for people out
there like a tourist. So I'm

2368
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:28,740
gonna give tourist tips from now
on. Virginia City is just dying

2369
02:21:28,740 --> 02:21:31,170
in my little town. You should
check out Virginia City in

2370
02:21:31,500 --> 02:21:36,120
Nevada when you're in the area.
Indeed, dynamite low town.

2371
02:21:36,690 --> 02:21:39,780
And then we have a knighting
Chris icebox. He said he was

2372
02:21:39,780 --> 02:21:42,510
looking forward to becoming part
of the no agenda Brewers Guild

2373
02:21:42,510 --> 02:21:46,230
Now John is in charge of all
things. So all I do here is the

2374
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:47,970
nice things and therefore I'd
like you

2375
02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:50,340
to step forward please,

2376
02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:53,310
thank you very much for
supporting the no agenda show in

2377
02:21:53,310 --> 02:21:57,210
the amount of $1,000 or more and
we are thereby very happy to

2378
02:21:57,210 --> 02:22:01,290
welcome you to the night of the
Roundtable, the John Templeton

2379
02:22:01,290 --> 02:22:05,790
nights and I hereby pronounce
you Sir Chris knights roundtable

2380
02:22:05,790 --> 02:22:08,490
for you sir opium, a warm orange
juice librarians and Jager

2381
02:22:08,490 --> 02:22:11,280
bombs, hookers and blow rent
boys and Chardonnay hot pads and

2382
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:14,490
booze winches and beer gauges
and sock a buck the middle of

2383
02:22:14,490 --> 02:22:17,520
bong hits and bourbon sparkling
cider escorts are mainly just

2384
02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:20,850
for you, sir. Some mutton and
meat. And thank you again for

2385
02:22:20,850 --> 02:22:23,940
supporting the show. Hopefully
we'll see more support from

2386
02:22:23,940 --> 02:22:28,590
people for Sunday because we are
we're doing some of the work for

2387
02:22:28,590 --> 02:22:29,520
sure.

2388
02:22:30,630 --> 02:22:34,620
While you're particularly
vulnerable, because I know I

2389
02:22:34,620 --> 02:22:39,210
noticed you keep doing the
moonlighting thing I heard John

2390
02:22:39,210 --> 02:22:42,630
CCTV I don't know how they did
while you're on green screen. I

2391
02:22:42,630 --> 02:22:43,830
couldn't figure it out. But

2392
02:22:45,690 --> 02:22:48,690
so after Egypt completes this
transitional period, nothing

2393
02:22:48,690 --> 02:22:51,750
should hinder the next elected
government from having an old

2394
02:22:51,750 --> 02:22:55,170
friend as an ally. CCTV.

2395
02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:01,650
Your way you using that stupid
that bony Dutch accent

2396
02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:03,240
really his name Adam curry.

2397
02:23:03,750 --> 02:23:07,410
That's what it sounds like to
me. It said I'm curious. CCTV

2398
02:23:07,410 --> 02:23:08,280
that wasn't you?

2399
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:12,870
Cairo. Hello in this night.
That's that's pretty weird job.

2400
02:23:12,900 --> 02:23:15,840
So after Egypt completes a
transitional period. Nothing

2401
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:18,900
should hinder the next elected
government from having an old

2402
02:23:18,900 --> 02:23:25,170
friend as an ally. CCTV. Cairo.
Someone's getting cornhole today

2403
02:23:25,290 --> 02:23:28,740
sounds like a recipe for success
to me. Yeah,

2404
02:23:28,740 --> 02:23:29,970
I'm all over the place.

2405
02:23:30,030 --> 02:23:32,280
You're getting way too much
work.

2406
02:23:32,370 --> 02:23:36,030
I had an idea. By the way. I had
an idea for us to make more

2407
02:23:36,030 --> 02:23:42,510
money. I interest a now. Now, I
have to ask you a couple of

2408
02:23:42,510 --> 02:23:45,390
questions. Because I'm not sure
if we can if we can pull this

2409
02:23:45,390 --> 02:23:48,840
off. But now you've told me
you've done these these big

2410
02:23:48,840 --> 02:23:52,470
technology books before. Now
before getting into the rant of

2411
02:23:52,470 --> 02:23:56,460
how O'Reilly might rip us off.
The way I understood the way

2412
02:23:56,460 --> 02:23:56,880
Brian is

2413
02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:59,490
on this killings thing. He's
killing different people and

2414
02:23:59,490 --> 02:24:02,310
that he's making so much money
with these killing books. But

2415
02:24:02,310 --> 02:24:03,870
he's not ripping anybody off.
Okay.

2416
02:24:04,470 --> 02:24:07,320
So if there were a technology
book, and I have the idea which

2417
02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:11,580
one to pitch to you. I the way
you've explained it to me in the

2418
02:24:11,580 --> 02:24:15,630
past is you know, we sell the
idea, then we get the money and

2419
02:24:15,630 --> 02:24:18,720
then we pay freelancers like 50
guys to write little bits and

2420
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:20,910
pieces of it because you know,
there's no way you wrote the

2421
02:24:20,910 --> 02:24:24,510
entire Windows 3.1
telecommunications book by

2422
02:24:24,510 --> 02:24:26,670
yourself obvious. You miss very

2423
02:24:26,670 --> 02:24:30,150
clearly outlined in the front of
the book, how these books are

2424
02:24:30,150 --> 02:24:30,900
produced, right?

2425
02:24:31,230 --> 02:24:32,670
But that's how it works.
Correct.

2426
02:24:33,150 --> 02:24:35,070
It's one of the ways you can do
a big book,

2427
02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:37,800
can we still do this? Is this
model still available? Because I

2428
02:24:37,800 --> 02:24:39,030
have a great idea.

2429
02:24:39,300 --> 02:24:42,150
Well, it you know, the
publishers don't care anymore

2430
02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:47,340
about anything other than the
the advances are down the tubes

2431
02:24:47,340 --> 02:24:51,270
and I don't think so. I mean, I
mean, it's possible on a launch,

2432
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:54,240
I've been get some agent that
would pick it up and try to move

2433
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:54,450
it.

2434
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:58,200
So I give you the idea that I'm
going to pitch this so you know

2435
02:24:58,200 --> 02:25:01,920
that I've been on this on this
Long term mission of you know,

2436
02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:04,770
we got to know how to set up our
own email servers you got to

2437
02:25:04,770 --> 02:25:06,270
know how to instal Linden what
to do

2438
02:25:06,570 --> 02:25:09,210
with the Okay, I think I know
are you are you going with this?

2439
02:25:09,210 --> 02:25:09,300
I

2440
02:25:09,300 --> 02:25:10,440
think you don't I bet you don't.

2441
02:25:10,979 --> 02:25:14,069
I bet you do. But tell me go and
tell it's the

2442
02:25:14,070 --> 02:25:19,530
post apocalyptic technology
survivor kit. Exactly. So this

2443
02:25:19,530 --> 02:25:22,530
and we write it from the from
the from the viewpoint of okay,

2444
02:25:22,530 --> 02:25:25,950
the EMP struck. The only thing
left were like maybe we'll say

2445
02:25:25,950 --> 02:25:28,950
Dell laptops or something like
only like all the Apple stuff is

2446
02:25:28,950 --> 02:25:29,820
all fried.

2447
02:25:31,410 --> 02:25:32,970
And of course Dell with his for
that,

2448
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:33,900
or Lenovo,

2449
02:25:33,930 --> 02:25:36,660
we could figure out what
whoever's got the money, got the

2450
02:25:36,660 --> 02:25:37,020
money.

2451
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:40,020
And then we'll explain you know
how to how to turn it into a

2452
02:25:40,020 --> 02:25:42,810
server how to you know how to
end them, but we'll also add

2453
02:25:42,810 --> 02:25:46,830
some ham radio stuff in there
with digital to create ham mesh

2454
02:25:46,830 --> 02:25:50,310
networks. You know, Google's
gone Twitter is fried all the

2455
02:25:50,310 --> 02:25:55,530
pizza basically, Silicon Valley
perished. Right? So in the

2456
02:25:55,530 --> 02:26:00,990
Apocalypse, and this book
explains how you can rebuild

2457
02:26:01,500 --> 02:26:02,640
your you know, the

2458
02:26:02,700 --> 02:26:04,920
how you rebuild society,
society?

2459
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:07,080
Yes. Thank you. Exactly.

2460
02:26:07,230 --> 02:26:10,290
What do you Okay? I think that's
actually a doable book.

2461
02:26:11,490 --> 02:26:14,790
Now, I mentioned this to Mickey,
of course, it's, first of all,

2462
02:26:14,790 --> 02:26:17,340
she rolled her eyes like, okay,
and that

2463
02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:20,130
is bad enough. The guy's bad
enough said,

2464
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:23,190
no, no, no. It was just about
the book in general. She said,

2465
02:26:23,220 --> 02:26:25,080
and she's okay. And what do you
want to write this? Do you want

2466
02:26:25,080 --> 02:26:27,540
to write this yourself? Like,
now? I'm not. And then I said,

2467
02:26:27,540 --> 02:26:33,060
John, and she went, what? He
never finishes any books. Crazy.

2468
02:26:33,060 --> 02:26:33,960
This isn't too good. An

2469
02:26:33,960 --> 02:26:37,410
idea. A this reputation I'm
getting is not good.

2470
02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:41,610
But I thought that maybe because
this the model is you get a

2471
02:26:41,610 --> 02:26:43,710
whole book because you know,
we're not going to write how to

2472
02:26:43,710 --> 02:26:44,880
inspect a project.

2473
02:26:44,880 --> 02:26:48,450
It's not it's not it's a project
management thing. Yeah, you get,

2474
02:26:48,930 --> 02:26:52,230
you get a bunch of people
assigned to the different set

2475
02:26:52,260 --> 02:26:55,470
the way these books are done
these monster books. And this is

2476
02:26:55,530 --> 02:26:58,410
can I typically point something
out this stuff, there's an extra

2477
02:26:58,770 --> 02:27:02,700
extra coolness about this
particular book. It's a real

2478
02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:04,200
book. It has

2479
02:27:04,200 --> 02:27:07,170
to be paid on. No, it has to be
a real book, obviously. Hello,

2480
02:27:07,230 --> 02:27:11,880
and but we can do hardcover.
With like fireproof, we can do a

2481
02:27:11,880 --> 02:27:14,730
special edition. Yeah, that's a
great, it's the gift that

2482
02:27:14,730 --> 02:27:16,650
keeps on getting those. Yeah,
well,

2483
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:21,120
that's a great gift. People will
love giving this as a gift, no

2484
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:24,660
one's gonna read it. But it'll
be fun to give it to people as a

2485
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:26,130
Christmas gift

2486
02:27:26,130 --> 02:27:33,210
are a really outstanding title.
So Upsilon it's doable as a

2487
02:27:33,210 --> 02:27:37,080
project you the key to success
with these large, large book

2488
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:42,660
projects is that you have to
where the real work is, there's

2489
02:27:42,660 --> 02:27:46,890
two two phases to the real work
is first deciding on the great

2490
02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:50,640
details of what you need in the
book, how long these chapters

2491
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:54,390
have to be. And then who's going
to write them and then you have

2492
02:27:54,420 --> 02:27:57,270
to find people and you have to
solicit some will do it for

2493
02:27:57,270 --> 02:28:00,180
free, you can get a lot of free
material from public relations

2494
02:28:00,180 --> 02:28:04,140
firms. Oh, right. Stock, of
course, when other companies

2495
02:28:04,140 --> 02:28:06,480
involved, the companies
involved. And so you know,

2496
02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:09,240
they're the only guys who make
the software radio and the

2497
02:28:09,270 --> 02:28:10,530
they'll write it up. By the way,

2498
02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:13,350
can I just stop you there? Now
that I think about it, we have

2499
02:28:13,350 --> 02:28:16,410
to do that in its entirety.
That's the smartest way to go.

2500
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:19,200
We just go to all the
manufacturers say we've chosen

2501
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:22,710
you. You. Yeah. And

2502
02:28:24,420 --> 02:28:28,500
that sounds good. And practice
doesn't necessarily work.

2503
02:28:28,830 --> 02:28:31,680
There's a couple of these
operations that won't help you.

2504
02:28:32,310 --> 02:28:35,640
funny names, but me, Microsoft
is one of them.

2505
02:28:36,030 --> 02:28:38,550
But they're not in because it's
Linux. So we don't need

2506
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:39,300
Microsoft.

2507
02:28:39,330 --> 02:28:42,030
Okay, well, then you have to
find somebody from it. Is this

2508
02:28:42,030 --> 02:28:47,310
not is non trivial to get the
work done for free. Well, a

2509
02:28:47,310 --> 02:28:48,840
little better shot at it for but

2510
02:28:49,260 --> 02:28:53,040
but no, no, I want a publisher
to give us an advance to create

2511
02:28:53,040 --> 02:28:53,130
the

2512
02:28:53,130 --> 02:28:55,440
book not gonna get enough money.
Really, can

2513
02:28:55,440 --> 02:28:57,840
we do a Kickstarter? Maybe

2514
02:28:59,010 --> 02:29:01,500
we started might might do it.
Whatever the case is, it's a

2515
02:29:01,500 --> 02:29:04,860
good idea for a book I would
gladly do it. And I think it I'd

2516
02:29:04,860 --> 02:29:08,550
like to I like the idea. And I
like the gimmick

2517
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:11,310
I got it. I got another part to
the gimmick. It's two volumes

2518
02:29:11,310 --> 02:29:14,580
bound. And one of them was a
hollow book with a Raspberry Pi

2519
02:29:14,580 --> 02:29:15,120
inside.

2520
02:29:16,890 --> 02:29:19,650
Well, now you're now you're
bringing in complications that

2521
02:29:19,650 --> 02:29:21,330
publishers will not deal with.

2522
02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:24,660
All right, I'm just trying to
make some dough bro.

2523
02:29:25,439 --> 02:29:29,909
Yeah, dobro. No, bro. Yeah,
we'll call it this. Do you think

2524
02:29:29,909 --> 02:29:33,479
that the you know the scheme,
the earlier discussion we had

2525
02:29:33,479 --> 02:29:38,309
where I said there might be a
testing the public was

2526
02:29:38,309 --> 02:29:41,789
sociological trickery, to try to
figure out you know, what we can

2527
02:29:41,819 --> 02:29:44,849
what we'll put up with how
gullible we are and all the rest

2528
02:29:44,849 --> 02:29:48,509
of it. That this may be now also
going on in Northern Ireland.

2529
02:29:48,569 --> 02:29:50,639
Ireland. Have you heard about
what's going on there Play Part

2530
02:29:50,639 --> 02:29:51,059
One.

2531
02:29:52,650 --> 02:29:55,950
While the sectarian conflict
known as the Troubles in

2532
02:29:55,950 --> 02:29:59,520
Northern Ireland has resurfaced
in recent weeks, police have

2533
02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:02,880
tightened security around
Belfast after a failed bomb

2534
02:30:02,880 --> 02:30:07,410
attack in the city centre. Fears
of a rise in defendant activity

2535
02:30:07,410 --> 02:30:11,190
after several years of calm.
CCTV, Chris won a larger section

2536
02:30:11,220 --> 02:30:12,750
as this report fast streets

2537
02:30:12,780 --> 02:30:16,500
are bustling with shoppers, yet
fears for safety linger in the

2538
02:30:16,500 --> 02:30:20,790
air. It's less than a week since
two masked men hijacked a car,

2539
02:30:20,820 --> 02:30:24,810
forcing a man to drive 60 kilos
of explosives into a shopping

2540
02:30:24,810 --> 02:30:28,140
centre car park in the heart of
the city. The attack was

2541
02:30:28,140 --> 02:30:32,070
unsuccessful as the bomb failed
to detonate. But many here are

2542
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:36,000
worried as this is the first
trip on such a scale to be seen

2543
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:37,710
in Belfast in the years.

2544
02:30:38,160 --> 02:30:42,510
Northern Ireland is at its
lowest ebb since the negotiation

2545
02:30:42,510 --> 02:30:47,040
of the Good Friday Agreement.
Because what's happening at the

2546
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:51,270
moment is, as I said this,
extremism is filling this

2547
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:57,780
political vacuum. And the issue
of the past is being used as a

2548
02:30:57,810 --> 02:31:06,540
surrogate by those who want to
dismantle the negotiated deal.

2549
02:31:06,660 --> 02:31:10,020
Security across the city is
tight with increased police

2550
02:31:10,020 --> 02:31:11,670
checkpoints and safety measures.

2551
02:31:11,700 --> 02:31:14,010
That sounds like they just want
to increase some security in

2552
02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:14,940
Belfast.

2553
02:31:15,180 --> 02:31:17,790
But here you have another
situation that didn't make no

2554
02:31:17,790 --> 02:31:22,320
sense. You get two masked men
hijacked a car to drive a bunch

2555
02:31:22,320 --> 02:31:26,700
of explosives into a mall. What
What? What? show what's just

2556
02:31:26,700 --> 02:31:27,900
idiotic itself?

2557
02:31:28,050 --> 02:31:30,630
That's not a great plan. By the
way, if you want to blow up the

2558
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:35,250
mall, this is not a great plan
to hijack a car. So how about

2559
02:31:35,250 --> 02:31:36,000
renting one?

2560
02:31:36,330 --> 02:31:39,540
Meanwhile, we have I gave a part
two, which is short here, which

2561
02:31:39,540 --> 02:31:44,010
is the public's reaction to this
is exactly what we get here. Or

2562
02:31:44,010 --> 02:31:46,920
at least the media presents it
that way by presenting only the

2563
02:31:46,920 --> 02:31:50,850
POC. Oh, it's better to be safe
than sorry. I think it's great

2564
02:31:50,850 --> 02:31:52,710
to have all this extra security.

2565
02:31:53,039 --> 02:31:55,889
People here are saying that it's
been many years since they've

2566
02:31:55,889 --> 02:31:58,949
seen security checkpoints like
this on their way into a

2567
02:31:58,949 --> 02:32:02,129
shopping centre. But traders
here are adamant to keep the

2568
02:32:02,129 --> 02:32:06,449
public safe in this busy period
leading up to Christmas. And the

2569
02:32:06,449 --> 02:32:08,069
public seem to welcome it

2570
02:32:08,130 --> 02:32:11,340
is necessary. And I suppose it's
like a message to everybody

2571
02:32:11,340 --> 02:32:14,820
else. You know, there are people
like Cosmo tighter and you know,

2572
02:32:14,820 --> 02:32:17,580
we're saying that, you know,
this is what is needed. And I

2573
02:32:17,610 --> 02:32:20,610
and this is what has caused you
know, this is what it's legal

2574
02:32:20,610 --> 02:32:21,090
tonight.

2575
02:32:21,210 --> 02:32:24,000
So you have a few more people
will probably go to the end of

2576
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:26,550
town shopping centres and
physically got there are certain

2577
02:32:26,550 --> 02:32:29,280
things you have to go in Belfast
and certain shops you can only

2578
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:32,910
get in Belfast. So I don't see
any problem with people waiting

2579
02:32:32,940 --> 02:32:34,260
a little extra time with a
security.

2580
02:32:34,289 --> 02:32:38,039
Yeah, well, that's true. But I
you all there is some historical

2581
02:32:38,039 --> 02:32:41,819
context of Belfast specifically
which cannot be ignored. Depends

2582
02:32:41,819 --> 02:32:42,089
on that

2583
02:32:42,090 --> 02:32:44,190
ignoring that, but it's just
this sounds as though they're

2584
02:32:44,220 --> 02:32:48,570
dirt. This sounds like you know
that like that earlier story

2585
02:32:48,570 --> 02:32:51,960
where he's like they're trying
to incite something or get.

2586
02:32:52,260 --> 02:32:54,240
She's, you know, things are
better when we're having these

2587
02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:56,760
bombings and let's get it back.
going again,

2588
02:32:56,880 --> 02:33:00,390
I have the premiere, I got the
premise. Now. Mark Zuckerberg

2589
02:33:00,390 --> 02:33:04,410
turns out to be a lone wolf al
Qaeda jihadist, he blows himself

2590
02:33:04,410 --> 02:33:10,380
up at TED, taking out gates, and
Tim Cook. And all those guys are

2591
02:33:10,380 --> 02:33:12,600
gonna do a novel now. Is that
what this is? That's

2592
02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:15,510
the premise since then. And of
course, there's no leaders and

2593
02:33:15,510 --> 02:33:19,110
all the all the people, these
companies, they're like work,

2594
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:22,080
and they don't know what to do.
And then, you know, then they

2595
02:33:22,080 --> 02:33:24,930
just like, everything just falls
apart, and then it just burns

2596
02:33:24,930 --> 02:33:29,940
down. Because they don't know I
know it is because the free food

2597
02:33:29,940 --> 02:33:36,990
stops at Google. Everyone just
stops coming in. Right. Okay.

2598
02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:40,290
Which is your premise for the
for the apocalyptic?

2599
02:33:40,529 --> 02:33:44,549
I'm working on it. I'm working
on it. Then Then here's the

2600
02:33:44,549 --> 02:33:47,999
here's something disturbing.
What are we how are we on time?

2601
02:33:49,529 --> 02:33:52,499
I don't know exactly how we're
on time because I only have half

2602
02:33:52,499 --> 02:33:53,249
the recording. We

2603
02:33:53,250 --> 02:33:57,180
are. We're about 10 minutes and
then we're done. Yeah,

2604
02:33:57,810 --> 02:34:01,950
this is very, very disturbing.
Every year in the United States

2605
02:34:01,950 --> 02:34:08,580
of America, we propagate the fun
fairy tale of Santa Claus to our

2606
02:34:08,580 --> 02:34:11,610
children in multiple ways. You
know, some read the toys The

2607
02:34:11,610 --> 02:34:14,010
Night Before Christmas book,
which is a tradition of my

2608
02:34:14,010 --> 02:34:16,110
family all through the house.
Not a creature was stirring, not

2609
02:34:16,110 --> 02:34:16,800
even a mouse.

2610
02:34:17,940 --> 02:34:21,600
Really? Yes. I and somebody sits
down and reads.

2611
02:34:22,050 --> 02:34:26,310
Yes. And my daughter still wants
me to read it. And it's fun and

2612
02:34:26,310 --> 02:34:28,110
it's a tradition and it's nice.

2613
02:34:28,230 --> 02:34:31,890
How much fun is it? Well,
because I get to sometimes

2614
02:34:31,920 --> 02:34:35,820
you know, I put in different
words. I do the X rated version

2615
02:34:35,820 --> 02:34:41,310
from time to time. Yeah. Then of
course we have ham radio

2616
02:34:41,310 --> 02:34:46,950
operators who are morons, and
and the ham rate and there'll be

2617
02:34:46,950 --> 02:34:52,860
one guy and he'll be pretend to
be Santa on the ham radio. Oh,

2618
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:56,280
and then all the kids can gather
around their dad's ham radio and

2619
02:34:56,280 --> 02:35:01,050
talk to Santa. Which is is
pathetic. But it's just

2620
02:35:01,050 --> 02:35:05,910
pathetic. But the worst part is
we have the NORAD defence

2621
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:07,890
mechanism. And this bothers

2622
02:35:07,890 --> 02:35:12,750
me to NORAD, of course is their
marginalising NORAD for the

2623
02:35:12,750 --> 02:35:14,400
benefit of bull crap.

2624
02:35:14,490 --> 02:35:19,590
And we'll NORAD of course is the
the actual outfit that that that

2625
02:35:19,620 --> 02:35:23,670
that was doing a drill and let
the hijacked aeroplanes crash

2626
02:35:23,700 --> 02:35:29,520
into buildings. Thanks NORAD.
It's run by I think a Canadian

2627
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:32,340
guy because I think it's North
America so it's I guess it's it

2628
02:35:32,340 --> 02:35:36,300
is the United States and in
Canada Navia and they have some

2629
02:35:36,300 --> 02:35:41,970
NORAD always track Santa and
give him a free pass, to fly

2630
02:35:41,970 --> 02:35:45,900
from the north pole down to
North America where he starts

2631
02:35:45,900 --> 02:35:49,860
his venue. And of course, he has
to fly all around the world, to

2632
02:35:49,860 --> 02:35:52,830
hand out gifts to children
everywhere who have been very

2633
02:35:52,830 --> 02:35:57,750
nice and are on the nice list
this year. If you go to NORAD

2634
02:35:57,750 --> 02:36:02,940
santa.org, they have completely
militarised him, he's, he gets

2635
02:36:02,940 --> 02:36:08,040
an escort of F 16 fighter jets.
And I have a video of which I

2636
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:12,660
have the audio here of the
command centre. And listen to

2637
02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:15,960
how militarised this has become
I mean, they might as well just

2638
02:36:15,960 --> 02:36:19,050
put a swastika on his frickin
slice. Let's go over to

2639
02:36:19,050 --> 02:36:20,610
the Pentagon now. Oh, hold on.

2640
02:36:20,640 --> 02:36:23,670
That's actually I don't want to
have that I have the I don't

2641
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:28,050
want broth setup. I want the
actual video. Oh, and this is

2642
02:36:28,050 --> 02:36:31,050
where everything freezes. Of
course, why wouldn't work.

2643
02:36:32,070 --> 02:36:35,490
NORAD Tracks Santa herders
rethink with the web.

2644
02:36:37,470 --> 02:36:40,680
We now join the crew of the
North American Aerospace Defence

2645
02:36:40,680 --> 02:36:43,500
Command and US Northern Command
and the command centre as they

2646
02:36:43,500 --> 02:36:47,070
track Santa Ana test flight in
preparation for his big journey

2647
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:48,570
on December 24. It's

2648
02:36:48,570 --> 02:36:51,540
a test flight he's doing John
this is just a test. Don't worry

2649
02:36:51,540 --> 02:36:54,120
kids. He's not really coming in.
It's just a test.

2650
02:36:54,599 --> 02:36:57,719
It isn't just women. This is
Lieutenant General. Deputy

2651
02:36:57,719 --> 02:37:00,989
Commander NORAD this will be a
test flight for Santa Claus.

2652
02:37:01,019 --> 02:37:02,399
Callsign Big Red One.

2653
02:37:02,609 --> 02:37:06,119
Big Red One. He's got a big red
one and his sleigh kids

2654
02:37:06,510 --> 02:37:09,510
that will be part of North Pole
and head directly for North

2655
02:37:09,510 --> 02:37:13,170
American airspace. We all know
that centre travels faster than

2656
02:37:13,170 --> 02:37:16,230
starlight. But this is nothing
that our technologies can

2657
02:37:16,230 --> 02:37:18,990
handle. We will now conduct our
construct

2658
02:37:20,220 --> 02:37:23,310
their intel can confirm that
Jack Frost and the abominable

2659
02:37:23,310 --> 02:37:27,150
snowman will not be a threat
during the test flight third

2660
02:37:27,180 --> 02:37:30,090
this is the air domain airspace
is clear from all threats.

2661
02:37:31,320 --> 02:37:34,320
Threats airspace is clear from
all threats.

2662
02:37:35,190 --> 02:37:38,460
Cyber anti Grinch viral is up
and we will continue to monitor

2663
02:37:38,460 --> 02:37:38,940
for threats

2664
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:42,750
cyber anti Grinch viral is up
John we're all good.

2665
02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:47,430
Sir land domain here we have
verified load bearing capacity

2666
02:37:47,430 --> 02:37:51,480
for all rooftops which reindeer
Rolando. This is maritime our

2667
02:37:51,480 --> 02:37:54,030
ships are standing by ready to
conduct any gift rescue

2668
02:37:54,030 --> 02:37:55,380
operations if necessary.

2669
02:37:56,730 --> 02:37:59,970
In the space domain, we have
optimal visibility for

2670
02:37:59,970 --> 02:38:00,660
satellites

2671
02:38:00,690 --> 02:38:03,420
to space domain, Big Red One.

2672
02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:07,920
This is whether we forecast
light snow and low density cloud

2673
02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:09,270
cover in higher elevations.

2674
02:38:09,990 --> 02:38:12,810
All those on the line we can
confirm that centre is airborne

2675
02:38:12,810 --> 02:38:16,350
at this time. He is currently
descending to 10,000 feet at a

2676
02:38:16,350 --> 02:38:20,670
speed of 250 knots. Based on
flight plans filed with the FAA

2677
02:38:20,670 --> 02:38:23,760
and that Canada we can confirm
this is not a trip to North

2678
02:38:23,760 --> 02:38:24,240
America

2679
02:38:25,380 --> 02:38:29,730
is not a threat is to stand down
stand down is not a threat to

2680
02:38:29,730 --> 02:38:33,270
North America. Give him an
escort with the F 16 Boy

2681
02:38:33,839 --> 02:38:35,729
big red ones track from the
North Pole.

2682
02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:40,620
Yes sir. Our DSP satellites use
infrared sensors to detect heat

2683
02:38:40,620 --> 02:38:44,790
from missile and booster plumes
in 1995 technological

2684
02:38:44,790 --> 02:38:48,780
advancements were made to ground
based radar systems hey kids did

2685
02:38:48,780 --> 02:38:54,780
you hear that motion information
kids just

2686
02:38:54,780 --> 02:38:59,490
so you know that work it's well
well spent money we can track

2687
02:38:59,490 --> 02:39:02,250
you even if you're travelling at
the speed of starting Hanson

2688
02:39:02,250 --> 02:39:06,540
detection capability of smaller
objects like heat generated from

2689
02:39:06,540 --> 02:39:07,410
Rudolph snows

2690
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:12,720
missile, specifically ground
based radar operators can you

2691
02:39:12,720 --> 02:39:15,630
can relate trajectory of Big Red
One with what satellite

2692
02:39:15,630 --> 02:39:16,620
operators are seeing.

2693
02:39:18,900 --> 02:39:22,470
Roger sir, we can confirm our
radars are seeing the same sight

2694
02:39:22,470 --> 02:39:25,320
picture from the ground that
satellite operators are seen

2695
02:39:25,320 --> 02:39:29,460
from space. As you know sir, for
our real world mission of

2696
02:39:29,460 --> 02:39:32,820
missile warning and effective
layer defence incorporates a

2697
02:39:32,820 --> 02:39:34,200
wide range of sensors

2698
02:39:36,060 --> 02:39:38,820
paying attention children just
so you know duck and cover we

2699
02:39:38,820 --> 02:39:39,810
got it's all okay.

2700
02:39:40,410 --> 02:39:43,860
And track missile threats or
national leaders can make

2701
02:39:43,860 --> 02:39:48,900
decisions on protecting our two
nations is most definitely not a

2702
02:39:48,900 --> 02:39:49,320
threat.

2703
02:39:49,770 --> 02:39:50,970
Not this year at

2704
02:39:50,970 --> 02:39:54,930
least Aegis Are you able to sit
down with one from your position

2705
02:39:54,930 --> 02:39:55,320
at sea?

2706
02:39:56,190 --> 02:39:59,100
Roger Sir, we're using our
powerful sea bass computers and

2707
02:39:59,100 --> 02:40:01,590
radar that are normally Use the
tracking guard weapons to

2708
02:40:01,590 --> 02:40:02,730
destroy enemy targets

2709
02:40:07,230 --> 02:40:09,120
How long does this go on another

2710
02:40:09,120 --> 02:40:14,130
minute? Ah, yeah there but the
telling the children about all

2711
02:40:14,130 --> 02:40:17,370
the great things that they have
to kill people with.

2712
02:40:17,609 --> 02:40:18,629
It's unbelievable.

2713
02:40:18,689 --> 02:40:21,869
Oh, homeland. Oh,

2714
02:40:23,850 --> 02:40:26,070
no, man, that is bad.

2715
02:40:26,220 --> 02:40:30,510
Meanwhile, tonight we're
launching an atlas five rocket

2716
02:40:30,570 --> 02:40:32,490
from Vandenberg Air Force Base

2717
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:36,120
tonight. Yep. Which they do it
during the day. Well, it's

2718
02:40:36,120 --> 02:40:37,710
an Atlas V.

2719
02:40:37,740 --> 02:40:39,630
Is it going to be live? Which
way is it going to be headed?

2720
02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:44,130
Well, I'm gonna read it to you
an Atlas V, which will be five

2721
02:40:44,130 --> 02:40:48,390
rocket carrying a national
security payload. Could it? What

2722
02:40:48,390 --> 02:40:51,810
is What does that even mean?
What is it like a whole bunch of

2723
02:40:51,810 --> 02:40:56,520
Snowden documents. National
Security payload is scheduled

2724
02:40:56,520 --> 02:40:59,850
for launch from south Vandenberg
Air Force Base late on the

2725
02:40:59,850 --> 02:41:02,340
evening December 5. If
everything goes according to

2726
02:41:02,340 --> 02:41:05,220
plan, the rocket will depart
Space Launch Complex three at

2727
02:41:05,220 --> 02:41:10,830
2313 PST during an unspecified
launch window head southward and

2728
02:41:10,830 --> 02:41:14,700
carry a classified National
Reconnaissance Office payload

2729
02:41:14,820 --> 02:41:17,580
and several small satellites
into orbit.

2730
02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:22,260
Going south. Yeah, that sucks.
And you can't see it was going

2731
02:41:22,260 --> 02:41:24,960
north. I guess you can see it
going over. It's pretty. It's

2732
02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:31,560
pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
They're sending up another piece

2733
02:41:31,560 --> 02:41:35,040
of crap that costs billions of
dollars. It's going to probably

2734
02:41:35,040 --> 02:41:38,700
spy on a Chinese satellite
spying on us. Yeah, something

2735
02:41:38,700 --> 02:41:42,150
like that. Or who knows? Could
be a guy in it for all you know,

2736
02:41:42,540 --> 02:41:46,890
I do have a couple of last clips
before we get out of here. Okay.

2737
02:41:48,750 --> 02:41:51,600
I mentioned this in the last
show that Amy Goodman is should

2738
02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:58,320
be take a job as a speed reader.
And I got the clip of her speed

2739
02:41:58,320 --> 02:42:01,500
reading this is I imagine it
goes like this at the meeting.

2740
02:42:02,070 --> 02:42:04,320
Yeah, so if you start to work
for us, I know you're gonna get

2741
02:42:04,320 --> 02:42:07,800
paid minimum wage, but we will
mention you at the end of the

2742
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:11,160
show. On every show. We're going
to mention your name and then

2743
02:42:11,160 --> 02:42:14,910
you're going to be on the on the
credit roll. So here's her

2744
02:42:14,910 --> 02:42:15,210
pitch.

2745
02:42:15,270 --> 02:42:18,450
It says Democracy Now that does
it for the broadcast. Democracy

2746
02:42:18,450 --> 02:42:21,630
Now is produced by Mike Burke
Rene felts our motto Nermeen

2747
02:42:21,630 --> 02:42:23,880
Shaikh Steve Martinez Semafo,
honey Mr. grubby guarantee the

2748
02:42:23,880 --> 02:42:25,650
guests are having a little
focus, centralist there Messiah

2749
02:42:25,650 --> 02:42:27,870
roads. Shareen enduro
microphylla Miguel de guerre

2750
02:42:27,870 --> 02:42:30,780
engineer Special thanks to Becca
Stella who, Julie Crosby Hugh

2751
02:42:30,780 --> 02:42:33,420
Grant, Jessica Lee John Wallach
festa guitars and to our camera

2752
02:42:33,420 --> 02:42:36,030
crew John Randolph Karen Chris
Meadows Carlota Hey, Suzanne

2753
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:38,160
many different thanks so much
for joining us. Oh,

2754
02:42:38,190 --> 02:42:40,230
that's how we should do our
donation segment.

2755
02:42:40,350 --> 02:42:46,470
Isn't that she's actually good
at that. Yeah. 3333 complaints

2756
02:42:46,470 --> 02:42:50,220
complaints. If you want to play
a clip, Blitz, here we go. This

2757
02:42:50,220 --> 02:42:53,160
is the one this is the last high
school USA show. I'm going to

2758
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:58,170
set it up. One of the
characters, it went to a party

2759
02:42:58,170 --> 02:43:00,900
in Amish country where the girls
get to do whatever they wanted,

2760
02:43:00,900 --> 02:43:03,780
and they were having sex every
which way. And they decided the

2761
02:43:03,780 --> 02:43:06,630
only kind of sex they didn't
have is by having a sex change

2762
02:43:06,630 --> 02:43:09,930
and then having sex again. So
the guy's gonna hit the guy, the

2763
02:43:09,930 --> 02:43:14,280
girl that was an Amish girl had
the sex change. The guys decided

2764
02:43:14,280 --> 02:43:15,090
against it.

2765
02:43:15,150 --> 02:43:18,570
old widow in my autumn years.
That's the worst news of all.

2766
02:43:18,840 --> 02:43:21,780
That's right, Brad. You got
delta winning hand. Don't fold

2767
02:43:21,780 --> 02:43:25,920
it. Well, I guess I should go
tell her I sure hope she takes

2768
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:33,720
it like the man that she now is.
Read, Mary. Is that really? You?

2769
02:43:33,779 --> 02:43:37,829
Sure is pretty cool, right?
Yeah. Now get on in there. I

2770
02:43:37,829 --> 02:43:40,349
can't wait to take this new hog
for a spin.

2771
02:43:40,410 --> 02:43:43,740
Well, here's the thing. Miriam,
I I can't go through with this.

2772
02:43:43,770 --> 02:43:47,220
Because how do I say this
delicately. I just don't want to

2773
02:43:47,250 --> 02:43:50,040
Well, I can't say that. Under
the circumstances. I'm not a

2774
02:43:50,040 --> 02:43:53,160
little disappointed. But I
understand. You need to live

2775
02:43:53,160 --> 02:43:55,470
your boring single gendered life
the way you want to

2776
02:43:56,130 --> 02:43:58,890
hear the coolest guy in the
world. Look at you, man. You're

2777
02:43:58,890 --> 02:44:02,760
a real son of a bitch. Well find
a woman to have sex with me.

2778
02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:06,570
Wish me luck. You'll find one
easy there are so many slots out

2779
02:44:06,570 --> 02:44:06,900
there.

2780
02:44:08,880 --> 02:44:12,120
And that ladies and gentlemen is
Fox Network.

2781
02:44:15,390 --> 02:44:16,530
Meanwhile,

2782
02:44:18,030 --> 02:44:21,570
the unmanned probe was launched
from a military complex at sea

2783
02:44:21,570 --> 02:44:26,310
Chang in southwest China.
Officials at Mission Control say

2784
02:44:26,310 --> 02:44:28,140
all went according to plan.

2785
02:44:31,800 --> 02:44:35,940
What he could be saying holy
crap that things out of control.

2786
02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:39,540
According to Beijing aerospace
Control Centre, Changi three

2787
02:44:39,540 --> 02:44:43,410
probe has successfully entered
Earth's orbit. Now I announced

2788
02:44:43,410 --> 02:44:45,870
Changi three probe was
successfully launched.

2789
02:44:46,529 --> 02:44:49,739
The Jade Rabbit lander is due to
reach the moon and touchdown in

2790
02:44:49,739 --> 02:44:53,669
a fortnight. It's named after a
mythical pet belonging to the

2791
02:44:53,669 --> 02:44:56,669
goddess of the moon and
according to state media, it

2792
02:44:56,669 --> 02:44:59,969
will explore the lunar surface
and seek out natural risks.

2793
02:44:59,999 --> 02:45:04,229
Horses. China is only the third
nation after the United States

2794
02:45:04,229 --> 02:45:08,069
and the former USSR to send a
mission to land on the moon.

2795
02:45:08,279 --> 02:45:11,789
Since beginning its space
programme a decade ago, China

2796
02:45:11,789 --> 02:45:15,539
has sent 10 astronauts into
space and launched an orbiting

2797
02:45:15,539 --> 02:45:19,499
module called Tiangong. One.
China is also planning a

2798
02:45:19,499 --> 02:45:23,939
permanent space station by 2020.
And eventually to send

2799
02:45:23,939 --> 02:45:25,709
astronauts to the moon as well.

2800
02:45:25,920 --> 02:45:29,430
I can't wait until the Chinese
land on the moon and there's no

2801
02:45:29,430 --> 02:45:32,400
flags. No Rubble, no nothing.

2802
02:45:32,610 --> 02:45:37,530
They dropped that stuff off in a
later mission. China in Egypt

2803
02:45:37,530 --> 02:45:39,990
the Chinese has weird nobody's
paying attention, but we're

2804
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:43,950
worried sick. Mike Rogers is
worried sick about Chinese

2805
02:45:43,950 --> 02:45:45,960
intelligence. Meanwhile, they're
gonna they're gonna move it on

2806
02:45:45,960 --> 02:45:49,320
to Egypt while we're sitting
here with our hands, our feet in

2807
02:45:49,320 --> 02:45:50,700
the air and thumbs in the water.

2808
02:45:50,940 --> 02:45:53,400
Meanwhile, let's shift focus to
the Middle East and China's

2809
02:45:53,400 --> 02:45:57,570
Special Envoy for that region
will Sucre he's an Egypt and

2810
02:45:57,600 --> 02:46:01,380
Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil
Rami. Both him and our various

2811
02:46:01,380 --> 02:46:04,110
other Egyptian leaders have
exchanged views on China ties

2812
02:46:04,110 --> 02:46:06,990
with that country, as well as
the Middle East peace process

2813
02:46:07,020 --> 02:46:10,290
and security in the overall
gulf. CCTV correspondent Avila

2814
02:46:10,290 --> 02:46:11,850
Mahadevi has more from Cairo.

2815
02:46:14,700 --> 02:46:18,660
Ambassador was keen to spend few
hours in Cairo before he heads

2816
02:46:18,690 --> 02:46:22,890
to Bahrain for the ninth Manama
dialogue. That's the second

2817
02:46:22,890 --> 02:46:28,440
visit for China's special envoy
on the Middle East this year. At

2818
02:46:28,440 --> 02:46:32,340
a time Egypt is still undergoing
political transition, comes with

2819
02:46:32,340 --> 02:46:36,180
an assuring message from China.
The ad

2820
02:46:36,960 --> 02:46:41,100
tryna support the efforts of the
Egyptian people for developing

2821
02:46:41,100 --> 02:46:44,370
their country. I expressed
congratulations on the

2822
02:46:44,370 --> 02:46:48,120
constitution to the foreign
minister. It's a wise effort,

2823
02:46:48,150 --> 02:46:52,410
and it reflects the will of the
Egyptian people. We look forward

2824
02:46:52,440 --> 02:46:54,660
to the roadmap reaching its
targets.

2825
02:46:54,690 --> 02:46:58,260
Yeah, look, and I thought we
were all in there. I thought we

2826
02:46:58,260 --> 02:47:00,900
had that thing locked down. We
spend billions a

2827
02:47:00,900 --> 02:47:04,470
year to get screwed to Chinese
gonna take it over? Well, then

2828
02:47:04,470 --> 02:47:05,430
we should stop sending

2829
02:47:05,430 --> 02:47:07,380
our money. Well,

2830
02:47:07,410 --> 02:47:10,560
I think we're going to blame the
Chinese are banking on

2831
02:47:10,560 --> 02:47:13,710
that if the Chinese get in
there, then they've got the what

2832
02:47:13,710 --> 02:47:16,410
is that the worst zoo as Suez
Canal?

2833
02:47:18,060 --> 02:47:22,800
Well, the Chinese tried to buy
the Panama Canal on their off

2834
02:47:24,810 --> 02:47:26,940
the pay part two, and you get to
kind of the summary.

2835
02:47:27,390 --> 02:47:30,690
China and Egypt have the same
foreign policies toward the

2836
02:47:30,690 --> 02:47:33,960
pressing issues in the Middle
East. Both have been working to

2837
02:47:33,960 --> 02:47:36,810
push forward a two state
solution for the Palestinian

2838
02:47:36,810 --> 02:47:41,640
Israeli conflict based on the
1967 borders. They support a

2839
02:47:41,640 --> 02:47:45,060
political solution for the
Syrian crisis. Oh, tiny

2840
02:47:45,060 --> 02:47:47,820
algea Chica Ching, she got in on
everything. Whatever. Do

2841
02:47:47,820 --> 02:47:50,430
whatever you guys want. These
guys are the more agreeable of

2842
02:47:50,430 --> 02:47:52,500
the group. We're not agreeable.
We're out.

2843
02:47:52,529 --> 02:47:55,529
How come you know we should we
should be able to get financing

2844
02:47:55,529 --> 02:47:59,459
from these guys. Chinese? Yeah.

2845
02:48:00,870 --> 02:48:03,570
I think I'm gonna get some money
from Putin. We're the only

2846
02:48:03,570 --> 02:48:06,360
people that have ever given the
guy a break. Yeah, well,

2847
02:48:06,360 --> 02:48:09,330
yeah. And that's true. That's
true. I have I have one clip

2848
02:48:09,330 --> 02:48:12,930
that I'd like to play. It's, and
it's just, it's just real. I

2849
02:48:12,930 --> 02:48:17,340
thought it was very funny. If
you live in Gitmo nation East in

2850
02:48:17,340 --> 02:48:23,910
the UK, and you like to Twitter
or be on the Facebook, you have

2851
02:48:23,910 --> 02:48:26,370
to be very careful. You know how
the laws are there, right.

2852
02:48:27,810 --> 02:48:30,930
You have to be careful. Yeah,
you get thrown in jail for a bad

2853
02:48:30,930 --> 02:48:31,470
tweet.

2854
02:48:32,039 --> 02:48:36,089
And the BBCs legal correspondent
is happy to explain to you

2855
02:48:36,239 --> 02:48:40,559
exactly how you can avoid jail
time and or a fine when you're

2856
02:48:40,559 --> 02:48:43,229
tweeting or Facebooking. Pay
attention slaves.

2857
02:48:43,590 --> 02:48:46,950
Here in the BBC social media
hub, the journalists who publish

2858
02:48:46,950 --> 02:48:50,220
on behalf of the BBC, are
trained in the law. So they

2859
02:48:50,220 --> 02:48:53,160
understand the law relating to
contempt of court, they

2860
02:48:53,160 --> 02:48:57,750
understand the law relating to
libel defamation. But how much

2861
02:48:57,750 --> 02:49:00,810
do you understand about that
law? Do you realise, for

2862
02:49:00,810 --> 02:49:04,530
instance, that when you blog, or
tweet or post on Facebook, what

2863
02:49:04,530 --> 02:49:07,770
you might regard as a verbal
conversation, because it is kind

2864
02:49:07,770 --> 02:49:11,610
of the modern equivalent of that
is, in fact, a publication and

2865
02:49:11,610 --> 02:49:14,940
all the law both the civil law
of defamation on the one hand,

2866
02:49:15,090 --> 02:49:18,000
and the criminal law relating to
contempt of court on the other

2867
02:49:18,210 --> 02:49:22,320
applies to that publication in
precisely the same way as it

2868
02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:25,860
would to a book that someone had
been working years on or to a

2869
02:49:25,860 --> 02:49:27,150
newspaper article.

2870
02:49:27,689 --> 02:49:30,329
Is there precedents for this
that I missed somehow

2871
02:49:31,140 --> 02:49:33,990
that an underlying conversation,

2872
02:49:34,019 --> 02:49:36,929
I know that but but he's now is
coming out and stating it as

2873
02:49:36,929 --> 02:49:38,939
fact and when there have been

2874
02:49:38,940 --> 02:49:43,890
a number of cases? I mean, this
goes back 20 years when you're

2875
02:49:43,920 --> 02:49:47,640
in Germany, for example, it's
illegal to do comparison

2876
02:49:47,640 --> 02:49:52,500
advertising. And so people had
started doing it in the early

2877
02:49:52,500 --> 02:49:55,740
days of the internet, and I know
some people were busted. In

2878
02:49:55,740 --> 02:49:59,970
Germany. It's also illegal to
you know brazenly show the suas

2879
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,240
Tikka. And so people were busted
for that. There's been a lot of

2880
02:50:03,270 --> 02:50:08,460
kinds of things creeping up. But
the libel and slander and that

2881
02:50:08,460 --> 02:50:10,110
sort of thing is still it's

2882
02:50:10,110 --> 02:50:12,930
even better. This is the legal
correspondent of the BBC, a

2883
02:50:12,930 --> 02:50:16,020
government organisation who is
saying that when you tweet, it

2884
02:50:16,020 --> 02:50:20,760
is equal to publishing a book.
And the same laws add here

2885
02:50:20,820 --> 02:50:23,340
another as a minute of it, he's
going to tell you what to do pay

2886
02:50:23,340 --> 02:50:25,710
attention, because you don't
want to go to jail slave. So

2887
02:50:25,710 --> 02:50:26,220
what do you do

2888
02:50:26,220 --> 02:50:29,370
if you want to go online and
slave comment about a big

2889
02:50:29,400 --> 02:50:32,040
criminal case? Well, the first
thing, if you don't want to get

2890
02:50:32,040 --> 02:50:35,850
into trouble is if you know of a
criminal case that's coming up,

2891
02:50:36,090 --> 02:50:38,760
and you want to get into
trouble, simply don't blog,

2892
02:50:38,820 --> 02:50:40,710
tweet or post but if you are
going

2893
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:45,690
to just shut up, is he saying,
Hey, if you just shut up, shut

2894
02:50:45,690 --> 02:50:46,410
up slang, do

2895
02:50:46,410 --> 02:50:50,730
be aware of the danger areas,
things like commenting about the

2896
02:50:50,730 --> 02:50:53,910
defendant in a way that might be
prejudicial. So for instance,

2897
02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:56,670
revealing that that person has
previous convictions or

2898
02:50:56,820 --> 02:50:58,590
unpleasant character traits.

2899
02:51:00,600 --> 02:51:03,630
unpleasant character, I hope
that this show should we should

2900
02:51:03,660 --> 02:51:06,780
I can ever travel to England
again, and get arrested for this

2901
02:51:06,780 --> 02:51:07,830
show. That's one

2902
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:10,380
area that is likely to get you
into trouble commenting about

2903
02:51:10,380 --> 02:51:13,830
the evidence in a case in a way
that might colour the jury one

2904
02:51:13,830 --> 02:51:17,580
way or another. Hello, the jury,
just be aware that any comment

2905
02:51:17,610 --> 02:51:21,060
of that type, which could be
deemed to be prejudicial to the

2906
02:51:21,060 --> 02:51:24,930
trial could result in you being
proceeded against for contempt

2907
02:51:24,930 --> 02:51:28,350
of court, and it could result in
you going to prison. Now, in

2908
02:51:28,350 --> 02:51:31,290
addition to contempt, there are
some criminal offences

2909
02:51:31,290 --> 02:51:34,260
themselves that relate to
publication. Be aware, for

2910
02:51:34,260 --> 02:51:38,460
instance, that it is a criminal
offence to name the victim of a

2911
02:51:38,460 --> 02:51:42,570
sexual offence. Such victims get
lifelong anonymity. And if you

2912
02:51:42,570 --> 02:51:46,290
do that online, then you will be
proceeded against or you will be

2913
02:51:46,650 --> 02:51:50,790
prosecuted. That is an offence
that's punishable by fine, but

2914
02:51:50,790 --> 02:51:53,070
it has been prosecuted very,
very recently.

2915
02:51:54,330 --> 02:51:57,900
There you go. Just stay off the
tweeters people you don't want

2916
02:51:57,900 --> 02:51:58,680
to get in trouble.

2917
02:52:02,370 --> 02:52:04,050
Well, on that pathetic note,

2918
02:52:04,470 --> 02:52:06,600
well, that's just not it's not
here. We still have freedom of

2919
02:52:06,600 --> 02:52:07,230
speech.

2920
02:52:08,070 --> 02:52:10,770
Yeah, no, here we have a little
more leeway. I know in Canada,

2921
02:52:10,770 --> 02:52:12,000
they don't have much.

2922
02:52:12,030 --> 02:52:15,180
Well, isn't that part of the of
the Empire? The crown? Yes.

2923
02:52:15,210 --> 02:52:20,310
Yeah. Okay, so we will, we gotta
go. And thank you, Martin JJ,

2924
02:52:20,310 --> 02:52:22,890
who hopefully, is still
listening and will remember to

2925
02:52:22,890 --> 02:52:27,150
send me the beginning of the
show, which was not recorded, or

2926
02:52:27,150 --> 02:52:32,970
so thankful. Common Core on
Sunday, there's more to talk

2927
02:52:32,970 --> 02:52:40,740
about tonnes of interesting
emails from y'all. Some agenda

2928
02:52:40,740 --> 02:52:48,360
21 stuff, please. No more fast
and furious. No more. I do think

2929
02:52:48,390 --> 02:52:49,320
we should make mission

2930
02:52:49,320 --> 02:52:51,420
mentioned that the gas tank is
behind the driver.

2931
02:52:51,450 --> 02:52:55,470
Yeah, that this. I had a very
different car in mind. As this

2932
02:52:55,470 --> 02:53:00,210
was unfolding, while we were
doing the show. And now that I

2933
02:53:00,210 --> 02:53:05,670
realised what kind of automobile
this was, is yeah, it's easy to

2934
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:11,310
see how you can get into a wreck
and blow up. Maybe they had

2935
02:53:11,310 --> 02:53:12,990
nitrous on board too. I don't
know.

2936
02:53:13,769 --> 02:53:16,469
That's doubtful, but I know that
one came from

2937
02:53:17,400 --> 02:53:23,190
Um, well, the let me give you
the the conspiracy theory line

2938
02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:27,960
now is that because of Paul
Walker's charity, which is a

2939
02:53:27,960 --> 02:53:33,660
charity for the Philippines,
Typhoon victims, key found out

2940
02:53:33,810 --> 02:53:37,620
this is that swear to god, this
is the theory. He found out that

2941
02:53:37,620 --> 02:53:42,510
they were putting medicine, or
they were putting like abortion

2942
02:53:42,510 --> 02:53:46,710
stuff into into their vaccines
and medicine. They were shipping

2943
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:49,560
over there. And he was gonna
blow the case wide open. So they

2944
02:53:49,560 --> 02:53:54,720
had to kill him. They had to
kill him. You know,

2945
02:53:54,720 --> 02:53:56,820
I don't know if there was
anything like that going on. I

2946
02:53:56,820 --> 02:53:58,650
think we would have discovered
it before.

2947
02:53:58,920 --> 02:54:02,280
But it's you know, and it's
like, it's 33 it's a 33 degree

2948
02:54:02,280 --> 02:54:06,870
angle. 33 miles from his house.
He was 33 to 33 movies. No, are

2949
02:54:06,870 --> 02:54:10,980
3233 It's like all this 33
stuff. And it's this rampant.

2950
02:54:11,070 --> 02:54:15,330
The Illuminati killed him. Well,
maybe they did. You know, but

2951
02:54:15,390 --> 02:54:19,680
Cui bono. Who benefits from
this? The only person benefiting

2952
02:54:19,680 --> 02:54:23,460
temporarily is Eric Holder for
the confusion of the name Fast

2953
02:54:23,460 --> 02:54:28,830
and Furious. And I bombed and
yeah, so Google bomb and really

2954
02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:31,620
the amount of people who are
emailing me about this

2955
02:54:31,620 --> 02:54:35,160
particular case. It's really
sad. You care so much about an

2956
02:54:35,160 --> 02:54:40,380
actor. It's just sad. It's sad
at the grand scale of the world,

2957
02:54:40,500 --> 02:54:44,670
and how people are being
squeezed to death. Worldwide.

2958
02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:51,450
This is the thing you're most
obsessed with. Sad. He was a

2959
02:54:51,450 --> 02:54:54,540
handsome man though. I'll give
you that. Like,

2960
02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:56,700
I liked him in his role. Yeah,

2961
02:54:56,970 --> 02:55:03,450
definitely. Alright everyone Are
you please support us for Sunday

2962
02:55:03,450 --> 02:55:08,040
show? It'd be nice to feel a
little bit more loved

2963
02:55:08,700 --> 02:55:11,700
devono inside we get noticed I
noticed that somebody said I'll

2964
02:55:11,700 --> 02:55:15,240
use dwolla.com And you know,
Phil always got these

2965
02:55:15,240 --> 02:55:19,020
suggestions not You Pay Pal is
fine, by the way. Works fine. We

2966
02:55:19,020 --> 02:55:22,020
haven't had any trouble with it.
Well, besides these other things

2967
02:55:22,020 --> 02:55:25,230
they don't take don't they don't
let you do donations. They don't

2968
02:55:25,230 --> 02:55:28,800
let you do this. You can't do
that. You have to ship across.

2969
02:55:29,100 --> 02:55:32,550
I love I love the guy that says,
if you don't do take European

2970
02:55:32,550 --> 02:55:35,940
payment systems, I'm not
donating. I'm like, Dude, you as

2971
02:55:35,940 --> 02:55:40,500
an American. You can't do that.
You can't have a European bank

2972
02:55:40,500 --> 02:55:43,980
account. You have no idea what
you're talking about. You're the

2973
02:55:43,980 --> 02:55:49,050
new European financial systems
like I don't just be a

2974
02:55:49,050 --> 02:55:53,880
freeloader be a douchebag fine.
Our book of the apocalypse is

2975
02:55:53,880 --> 02:56:02,640
going to save us. Coming to you
from FEMA Region six, where I am

2976
02:56:02,640 --> 02:56:06,450
proudly displaying the flag of
Gitmo nation in the morning. I'm

2977
02:56:06,450 --> 02:56:07,080
Adam curry,

2978
02:56:07,230 --> 02:56:10,800
and from Northern Silicon Valley
plain and simple screw FEMA. I'm

2979
02:56:10,800 --> 02:56:11,760
John C. Dvorak. We'll

2980
02:56:11,760 --> 02:56:15,000
be back on Sunday right here on
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2981
02:56:21,900 --> 02:56:27,120
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2982
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