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Yeah, well hit hit a jacket
jacket. juga Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak. November 28 2013 Time
for your Gitmo nation media

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assassination, Episode Five
suasana. This is no agenda. And

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today I am thankful for your
courage from the Travis high

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tide out in Austin, Texas in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry.

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And oops. I'm northern Silicon
Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Hill.

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What did you lose your script?

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Oh, I was just looking at the
Twitter because I tweeted right

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after you tweeted that we're on
the air. Yeah. Then I noticed

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that there's a post by me that
I'd ever posted. Really? Yeah,

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it's it's funny. You mentioned
this because yesterday, and that

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Miss Mickey is gone. So I'm all
alone here. And I'm you know,

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I'm just what I do is, I
basically bring everything into

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the studio. I don't need
anything else. I don't need a

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house. They got the I got the
arrow bed. I mean, I'm living in

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the studio. And you know, I
check Facebook to see if she's

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posted any pictures from from
the gig that she's doing in Los

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Angeles. And all of a sudden I
get a bloop. I get an instant

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message from this girl. Remember
the girl that was at the

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reunion? I told you the reunion
the radio reunion in Amsterdam?

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No. Yeah. She didn't tell me any
radio reunion about the girl.

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Yes, we did.

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I told you I had a reunion. And
one of the girls who was there

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was our assistant back in the
80s. But she's now this huge

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television personality.

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How big is she?

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Right? Well, she's very famous.
Let's put it that Oh, I

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misunderstood.

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And because of course, I've been
working out doing this this spin

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class for a couple months. Oh, I

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look at changing the story. No,
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no, no, no, no, this this was
this was the entire reason to

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say yes. Because I knew all
these people would need to go to

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the reunion. Okay, because I
knew all these people would be

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you know, overweight and
wrinkled. Like, this is great.

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I'm gonna walk and go, Hey,

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you're gonna be looking good.
That's right. Let's

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look at my girlish figure. So
she she was there. And she

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she's, she's She's seriously a
huge celebrity now. Like,

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really? I told you this like
Oprah level almost. Okay. And

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for Holland, which doesn't say
not much. Deal. So no, it was

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great. Catching up with the she
literally could not keep her

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hands off of me. Understandable.

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So Mickey, I guess is flying to
LA. So she can't hear any of

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this.

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Mickey's the one that said, it's
okay. As long as you don't put

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more than the tip in it's okay.

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Welcome to the show, ladies and
gentlemen. Not heard no agenda.

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You're confused. But the point
is, so I get this instant

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message from her saying
something which is actually

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relevant to the conversation we
had at this reunion. And I'm

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like, yeah, and then. And all of
a sudden, she's like, trying to

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cybersex me. Like, Oh, hold on a
second. Cypher seriously, you

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know, like, hey, oh, by the way.
I'm not kidding. And I'm like,

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wow, this is weird. And so I'm
like, real cagey. I'm like,

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what, what are you talking
about? Cage? And she's like, You

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know what? I'm good at, you know
what I'm good at? I'm like, What

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do you mean, why don't you tell
me what you're good at? And it

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was like some back and forth and
like, Okay, this is weird. So I

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email her.

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This is I am so what are you
doing this?

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It? I think it pops up as a
message. I'm sorry. Yeah, I

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think it's like a

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face count of first segues. Are
these pop up message? No.

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And I'm like, I'm like, this
isn't? Whatever you're planning.

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I'm certainly not going to do it
on Facebook. Yeah, so email, I

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say is this you?

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Maybe she's got one of those
shows to just don't humiliate

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people. Well,

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you know, I think something like
that was going on because I

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email she says, I don't even
have a Facebook account. I'm

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like, Well, you may want to
check this because it sure looks

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like your Facebook account. And
your cyber sexing

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me so Oh, somebody was trying to
set you up? Yes, exactly.

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And I was not having it, which
I'm very happy about because you

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know how easy it is to be like,
yeah, baby, what are you

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wearing? I mean, you know, lift
and carry what do you know, you

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know how easy it would be to
trick me really into doing that.

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I'd be like, Yeah, cool. dodged
the bullet, and I'm thankful for

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it. There you go. A long way to
go. But hey, everybody. It is of

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course Thanksgiving Day. Also
happy Hanukkah, which I think

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happens once every 10,000 years
that Hanukkah falls on

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Thanksgiving. So I'm not quite
sure how that works and what

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it means but it means something.
I had a lot of people email me

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over and I want to mention this
before I forget about What's

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your turkey recipe? Could you
how you're gonna have a special

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Turkey recipe that I sent one
out really? Yeah, like more than

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five

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interesting and these were no
agenda listeners or yeah yeah,

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yeah fans in general

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Well no, no agenda listeners or
you know a lot of my fans are no

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agenda listeners and they're the
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the cooking right well there's
so many I just want to say

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there's so many what I recommend
to people is go on Google and

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type in turkey roast turkey
because as you know, I mean you

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could there's other ways of
cooking it but roast turkey and

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then take the read five recipes
and then just synthesise one

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essentially it's you just have
the season this bird make sure

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you have to clean out as is guts
so that was some lemon juice or

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something and then either put
stuffing in are not a lot of

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people. Oh, you don't put the
stuffing and you're gonna get

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you're gonna die.

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Hey, that sounds like my guy
who's always weird at me.

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Oh, don't put the stuffing in
the bird. You'll die. Just like

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bull crap. Yeah. Yeah, if you
don't know what you're doing,

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you might but you probably just
started you just get sick of

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salmonella. anyway and then just
do it. It's just generally 20

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minutes

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it's not that hard. It's it's
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seasoning I just say dead easy.
I just say salt. You know just

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go with salt

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and salt to the skin and it
works. And you got it. I'm gonna

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do something interesting though.
And I will write it up if it's

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any good Jaycees. fiance is off
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This is good actually. Probably.

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And I was gonna put a stuffing
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can't eat wheat. I can't have
gluten and gluten and so I said

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well, you're just not going to
be a stem. I gotta give you any

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of it you know I said now well
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creative you're I'm going to
make a a diced apple dressing.

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With dried cranberries dates.

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Seasonal so much like Kay throw
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No, no, that's a grain Keane was
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output and kale in the dressing
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verboten.

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So it's going to be a it's going
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going to see how it comes out.
It should be kind of like a like

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a like applesauce a turkey
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it'd be out if it's any good
I'll write it up if it sucks you

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know just

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write it up if it sucks we'll
write it up to know but if you

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put some kale in there you could
call it a super stuffing

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kale Oh maybe I should I do have
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some dinos kale to play with and
I realised that was a real scam

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is because everyone's now
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emails. Look at this another
public relations thing for kale.

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Yeah, it's a buck 69 For a small
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it seems to me about a quarter
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Cabbage which is the same
brassica family is about 69

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cents a pound. So this is a this
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money grab. It's a total scam.
One of our rip off

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one of our producers sent a a
camera shot of the newspaper in

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Kampala Uganda. And I'm not sure
which newspaper it is but it's

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under health and beauty is this
half page article with with a

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little basket of kale on the
side and and two people like

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sitting in a table and it's and
says you can make juice out of

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kale and in the end the dude has
a green glass of goop and the

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girl has a like a red glass of
goop. I guess she doesn't have

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the kale with the headline make
kale your new friend with

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benefits

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I somebody sent me this to
friend with benefits.

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The kale stuff. Yeah. Okay, so
we probably got the same name. I

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put it in the show notes just
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You have to see it.

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Yeah, it's pretty bad. Alright,
super. Before we get into the

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meat of the show, should we at
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Thanksgiving scam the fact that
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well yes no, this is a tradition
here on the no agenda show every

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year on this fake holiday. A
John explains exactly why it's

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fake. How it's fake what it's
about and this this year. I'm

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going to add a little something
but first, ladies and gentlemen,

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your annual no agenda tradition.
John explains why Thanksgiving

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he's Bogota live.

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Okay, first of all, they
originally there was a couple of

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events that took place with the
Pilgrims in the Indians that

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were never called Thanksgiving
and the only happened they were

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only documented twice and they
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And I think they were in July or
something like that. But somehow

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this woman And then then they
were going to try to make this

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kind of a regular holiday until
Jefferson came around. Thomas

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Jefferson said this, this is
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holiday. And so they bailed out
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there was never another
Thanksgiving until this woman

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Sarah Hale came around in 1863.
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should be some sort of she was
like a religious person and an

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activist. She was an activist,
community organiser, writer. And

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she just had some magazine so
she revitalised the the whole

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idea and created she that's when
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the Thanksgivings were that
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five or six from about 1770 to
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generally commemorative events
to honour the dead from various

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wars. And this seemed like a
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the Civil War. And so they they
put Thanksgiving back into play.

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it is indeed recognised as a day
another yet another day to think

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about our warriors

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is yes, in fact, in fact, if you
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well, it's only in the United
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has a Thanksgiving. And if you
look up the wiki entry on

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Thanksgiving in Canada, you will
find that it was also used as a

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way to honour the dead. Ah, it
had nothing to do with pilgrims

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or having fun with the Indians
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at all. This is such a
disappointment. Because that's

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fun with Indians.

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We have there was some some
there's a couple of funny

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stories about how they when they
did have their, their harvest

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festival with the Indians one
year, then within the next five

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years, their dad killed all
those same Indians. Just a

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little aside. Anyway, one
documented Thanksgiving was for

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a one shot celebration that was
held in 1676. It was a generic

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term for an ad libbed holiday.
There was also during the

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Roosevelt administration, they
tried to move the Thursday up a

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week because Thanksgiving by
then by the 30s, had become

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exactly what it is today
commercial date, that marks

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right marks the beginning of the
Christmas shopping holiday. And

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Roosevelt tried to move it up a
week, because it was a

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depression.

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What I understand is that 16
states at the time refused to

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move it. So we actually had two
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States.

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Well, it'd be good got so much
so many people objected to it,

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because so many people have been
bought into the bowl crap about

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Thanksgiving. Yeah, that these
idiots and some of these states

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says, Oh, it's a sin. You know,
we're honouring the Pilgrims in

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the Indians. And, seriously, and
so they, so they wouldn't change

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it because it would be changing
God's will or something. It was

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unbelievable. And so And
Roosevelt got a lot of pressure.

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So he moved it back. And now we
just start shopping earlier. Now

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I think the real mark of a
beginning of the Christmas

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holiday season is when all the
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I think Thanksgiving just as it
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Christmas shopping has begun to
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early in November, I have a
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it was one person said during
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needed, because we needed more
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time. We didn't have Armistice
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actually short holidays, we
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they figured, okay, we'll put
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take a day off. And it was
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days off. And it's the only
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besides Christmas, that has a
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the other holidays have been
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Monday or Friday based on a law
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law was that? It was the
standardisation of of

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1971. So it was the Nixon
administration. They were sick

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and they were sick of the work.
The corporate America was sick

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of these guys. You know, all of
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would be a holiday or Thursday
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will take long weekends. He was
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couldn't display the slaves
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We're just taking too much time
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we can't have that in the call
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I did. That's why all the
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I did not clip this but I just
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President released his podcast
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transcript I think we should
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Thanksgiving address to see if
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dinner is he going to chuck let
the turkey go

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please don't take me to there.
That's that's like the stupidest

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thing and it's so dumb. Let's
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everybody. Hi everybody, on
behalf of all the Obamas on

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behalf of all the Obamas me the
other Obama Sodre bow, newest

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member of our family, sonny, I
want to wish you a happy and

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healthy Thanksgiving. Okay.
We'll be spending today just

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like many of you down with
family and friends to eat some

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good food. Thanks if you have a
chef, all right stories, modulo

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football, and most importantly,
count our blessings. And as

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Americans, we have so much to be
thankful for your combs. We give

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thanks for the men and women who
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four centuries ago, risking
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better life. And the people who
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American brothers and sisters
for their generosity during that

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first Thanksgiving. I see he's
propagating the same bullcrap.

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Yeah, it's total bullcrap that
their generosity. Hey, thanks,

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Redskins. Oops. Man. Oh, man.
Oh, man. All right. Well, this

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it is of course, still a
commercial holiday. So you might

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as well keep the dream alive. I
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than Santa Claus is fine by me.

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It was a little different than
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Just that they're teaching it is
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So today, let me read this last
paragraph. This is was a blog

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entry. You read the various
links as late as the holiday

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never existed in this form until
Lincoln that said there were a

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few federal proclamations
declaring thanksgiving for

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celebratory purposes. And that
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the seven then randomly in
1795 7098 1799 and 1815. Most of

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these were war related.

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I'm looking at the official
proclamation which is real which

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goes into the Federal Register,
which is the real deal

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proclaimed by our president.
Paragraph two, our annual

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celebration has roots in
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When we gather around the table,
we follow the example of the

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pilgrims and Wampanoag dogs, who
shared the fruits of a

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successful harvest nearly 400
years ago, when we offer our

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thanks we mirror those who set
aside a day of prayer. And when

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we join with friends and
neighbours to alleviate

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suffering and make our
communities whole, we honour the

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spirit of President Abraham
Lincoln, who called on his

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fellow citizens to quote
fervently implore the

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interposition of the almighty
hand to heal the wounds of the

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nation, and to restore it as
soon as may be consistent with

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the divine purposes to the full
enjoyment of peace, harmony,

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tranquillity and union. Now, get
me some turkey you Indian shit.

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No, I didn't say that. I'm
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So I've got a turkey here. That
is a heritage bird that weighs

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seven pounds, which

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is light. That seems light.
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gonna be great. When you get a
good heritage Turkey The weird

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thing is I can see why these
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from about 18 cents not no when
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deal, but 1880 I guess, are true
about 1950 Because the one of

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these old heritage birds
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pheasant than Turkey doesn't
have that stench. That real

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cheap Turkey stench you get from
a butter now you know what I'm

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talking about? I know

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exactly when you walk when you
walk into the house you like

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you're just gagging

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Yeah, it's a stench and this is
the kind of this is the same

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with farmed salmon. It's has a
stinky you can in a bunch of

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white milk comes out.

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Oh, when you go when you're
cooking that white goo Ah, stop.

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You cannot eat salmon anymore.
You can't there's and there is

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almost no fresh salmon to be
found in get

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up in Washington state from the
Indians. Well, sure.

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Sure. But you know what I'm
saying is salmon has just

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basically been ruined by the
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Yeah, no, it's it's stinks. They
white it's gotten white milk and

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it has it has a flavour that is
enough to make me sick.

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I'm getting sick. By the way. I
have I have a home for

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Thanksgiving today.

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I have a going.

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I'm going to my friends. John
Christian, Fritz, and they have

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promised me a Thanksgiving with
cowboys and trainees.

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Cowboys in trend is just That's
Texas.

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In fact, the trainee is a very
famous professor here at UT.

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A trainee at school.

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Yes. No, completely. Yes. Yes,
she is. And what

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she is, so she is a Is she a
transsexual or a transvestite

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transsexual? I believe okay.

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I don't know if she will find
out. I mean, she's like a

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molecular biologist. So that's
kind of interesting. And then

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one of the guys dad is Cowboy.
He's like a total Fox news

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junkie. So it's gonna be funny.
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gonna be fun for that'd be
great. Fox News is run by the

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Democrats.

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Yeah. Oh yeah, no. Oh god. I
don't know if I have the energy

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after the show to get into it

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was tonight. Yeah, you want to
sit back and relax and watch

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watch this guide Yak. We also
have listeners that rush

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limbaugh to

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Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, it'll it'll
be interesting. By the

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way Rush Limbaugh on a couple
days ago had a big thing on

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Thanksgiving. Well, he has a
book out he's promoting. Yeah,

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he's got a book out he's
promoting this got a little bit

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to do it. But his Thanksgiving
story. I said all the truth

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about Thanksgiving, he says, So
I'm reading this thing. Oh,

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well, I guess Russia has finally
read some of my material or or

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the other people that debunk
Thanksgiving. No, no, Russia

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says the whole thing is
misunderstood. When the pilgrims

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and the Indians got together. It
turned out there were the

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pilgrims are trying to make a
kind of a commune which doesn't

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work. And the whole thing when
they finally figured out free

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enterprise, and they started
just doing their own thing in a

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free enterprise free market way.
That's what the celebration was

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all about. It was the
celebration of the free market

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emergence. Wow. It's like what
are you insane? Yeah,

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of course he is. It's not
healthy to listen to people like

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this too much. You can sample
and you should be sampling. But

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my goodness, when people get
sucked into listening to crap

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like that, and I know. So of
course I it's very hard not to

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gloat and it's it the timing
could not be really could not be

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better. As on Sunday, Sunday,
Sunday, Sunday. Looking for the

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jingle here on Sunday, we have
another one of our annual or of

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our monthly very famous,

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it's another instalment of with
the

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now I had said that it looked
like it was all dead. That you

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know they're on to me. They're
they're not talking to me like

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they used to. But I had quite a
Twitter, and even Facebook

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Exchange with two of the main
players, including the

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professor. When I somewhat
glowingly that posted the link

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to the fact that the FDA is
shutting down 23 and me. And

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first of all, like props to the
no agenda show for calling this

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stuff out for the parlour trick
that it is, but I was

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flabbergasted my new word of the
week when the professor and his

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wife, Marianne, posted, saying,
Oh, my God, Adam, are you

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actually on the government side
on this one? I was like, wow,

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that's your response. That's
your response. Did you read what

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the government said? Did you
read that? They're basically

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calling 23 me out as regulation,
dodging shocks, there's

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charlatans, charlatans, and so
on. But it's funny because I

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stayed on it. I was I'm like,
Okay. And I really went very

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deep on what is this genetic
testing? And what and what are

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they really doing? And where is
it coming from? And I'd like to,

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I'd like to share a little bit
of my research because when you

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look into it, it there's a lot
more than than I expected to

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find. And it's even worse than
it appeared. The first glance

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here, by the way, is the core of
the issue

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website, of course, is that,
gee, it's great to be able to

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get information about my own
health for a pretty reasonable

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price point, without having to
go to a doctor pay a tonne of

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money, and have a bunch of
regulators standing in the way.

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That is, of course, the argument
that 23 and 23 and me other

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companies like to make, and it's
a powerful one. The problem is

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that our understanding of
genetics, especially in the

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public, is very low, and that
these tests come not only with

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limited accuracy, but also
without the benefit of genetic

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counselling. So I imagine that
that you send your DNA away, you

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receive news back from 23andme.
This is the kind of information

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that they do provide that your
negative for the BRCA one and

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BRCA two those mutations that
lead somebody be more

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susceptible to getting certain
forms of breast cancer? Well,

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when armed with that
information, the individual

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might decide to avoid getting
mammograms, well, that decision

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could be fatal. So not having
those particular mutations that

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braca one and braca two in this
case, lowers your genetic risk

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from about 12.5% to 12.4% of
getting breast cancer and so

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it's clearly a mistake to avoid
mammograms but the information

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you receive back from a company
like 23andme doesn't tell you

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any of this. So the here's the
things And again, this is this

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was very surprising to me that a
professor who know who knows

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better, but this was pretty much
what all the robots were saying.

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interrupt you Sure. Don't do
bots have as part of their

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litany that government
regulation is good and we

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wouldn't have had this
depression if there was more

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government regulation and
government regulation is good.

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It's great. It's helpful it's
useful we need more of it not

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less of it.

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This is exactly what was so
weird is that they were calling

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me out for being on the
government side like you know,

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it's crazy that you would be on
the government on the government

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side with this. But here but
here is the the also completely

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false. So here's, here's the
posting download your 23andme

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data ASAP if you haven't, the
FDA doesn't trust you with your

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own genome, which is not at all
what the by the way, that's a

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kind of a repost from Discover
Magazine, this is this is their,

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this is the take on it. That
23andme And this is literally

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that's kind of a douchey way of
putting it Don't you think it

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gets worse?

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Worse than this by saying
23andme or democratising health

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care? I'm like what? They're
democratising healthcare. So the

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thinking is that because you can
download, you can get your

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genome and you can download it
and analyse it. Or in this case,

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it's analysed for you that that
somehow is a democratisation of

443
00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:35,190
healthcare thing. It's improper
use of the word democracy. But

444
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:38,640
when you when you look into what
this analysis is, now that the

445
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,810
human genome was decoded in
2003, I think, and really what

446
00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:45,780
has come out of it, from all
sides, there's been no real

447
00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:48,720
players, it's been really sad
this, nothing has really

448
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,500
emerged. But what we do have is
a big database called the the SN

449
00:26:55,530 --> 00:27:00,930
pedia, sn P E, D I A. and And
interestingly enough, it's an

450
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:07,680
open source database of these
markers, that helps you

451
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,450
understand what certain genes in
your genome mean. And when you

452
00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:16,950
look through it, yeah, it's it's
a pretty small set. There's some

453
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:23,190
really funny ones in there, like
Rs 9332964, which is the s&p for

454
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:27,090
micro penis, which I love I
gladly posted. And I said, Hey,

455
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:32,190
Professor Russ, do you have this
gene? Code, you could only say

456
00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:36,240
Well played. But there's
actually a desktop application

457
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,170
called Promethease. And you can
download that, and it takes

458
00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:45,120
about four hours on a modern
powered computer. And it will do

459
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:52,290
exactly what 23andme is doing is
it'll, it'll take your, your

460
00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:56,340
genome and any of these SNPs it
can identify it will and it'll

461
00:27:56,340 --> 00:28:00,780
show these to you. And you can
take it for what it is. You

462
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:04,470
know, it's like, you know, so I
guess if you have the RS 9332964

463
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:06,840
gene, and you're gonna have
kids, while your kid might have

464
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,170
a micro penis, I guess that's
the conclusion. But really these

465
00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:14,490
risks for numbers is the is the
problem with communication of

466
00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:18,120
issues in general that the
public has now bought into and

467
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:23,190
this we've been tracking this
and identifying the 90% are in

468
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:30,300
90%. Of of, of scientists agree
9797 9899. By the way, this is

469
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,100
proven to work. We've known this
since the 50s. When advertising

470
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:39,360
said nine out of 10 dentists
agree that is better than 10 out

471
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,910
of 10 dentists, this is
advertising, this is marketing,

472
00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:44,670
it's well known, well
researched, well study that if

473
00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:48,450
you give that 10% That one
dentist Well, he's obviously a

474
00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:52,980
shit. Clearly this is good,
because you know, it's science

475
00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:55,680
because there's one guy who's
kind of on the fence are against

476
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,990
it. And this works and this is
why it's below is

477
00:28:57,990 --> 00:29:02,010
no there's a crackpot out there.
Yeah. So the danger

478
00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:04,590
of course, is and, and this is
all about the marketing. If

479
00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:08,310
you're looking at 23 and me's
website, they are literally

480
00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:12,810
talking about recommendations of
things you should talk to your

481
00:29:12,810 --> 00:29:17,490
doctor about regarding certain
brand name pharmaceuticals, not

482
00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:22,530
even the the generics or other
or other other brands or even

483
00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:25,830
the the medical, the medical
name, the clinical name, the

484
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:30,090
pharmaceutical name, only the
brand names, and people do not

485
00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:33,840
understand how to assess risk.
So it's, it's the same with

486
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,410
terrorism. Now, people think
that we have to go through all

487
00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:41,160
these hoops at the airport
because the risk of of a

488
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,490
terrorist attack is so high when
of course, your risk of actually

489
00:29:44,490 --> 00:29:48,600
dying in a terrorist attack is
is extremely minut.

490
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:51,690
But the way that she's more
likely to get struck by

491
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:52,170
lightning.

492
00:29:52,410 --> 00:29:57,540
Now, when I look distinctly
Yeah, twice. So when I look at

493
00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:02,790
the at what 23 and me is a is
offering. And they don't even

494
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:06,570
they don't do their own tests,
they handed out to CLI a approve

495
00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:12,000
laboratory. And it's the same as
the $5,000, the $4,000 test. So

496
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,250
I don't think that they're even
doing that they're outsourcing

497
00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:16,650
it. And obviously, they're using
their 100 million dollars in

498
00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:22,500
venture capital to, I guess this
subsidise that. But they're

499
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:24,840
making all these
recommendations. And that, of

500
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,980
course, is the problem. And that
is also the danger. And I've

501
00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:32,880
spoken to many doctors who say,
Oh, I can all these people with

502
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,690
this 23andme bullcrap showing up
like, and he said that people

503
00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:38,700
are going to get sick, just from
thinking about the stuff that

504
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:43,530
they might have, that they have
a 56% or 53% chance of, of

505
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:51,270
getting. So it's, it's it is
indeed a poorly marketed, but of

506
00:30:51,270 --> 00:30:51,810
course,

507
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:55,410
if you really want to poorly
marketed or all

508
00:30:56,070 --> 00:31:00,300
rights illegally marketed? Yeah,
the main thing is, if you want

509
00:31:00,570 --> 00:31:04,620
to be the player, then be the
player. You know, you got your

510
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:07,140
Google money you got you got
your ID, because Google is also

511
00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:11,550
an investor, as is Sergey Brin
personally, you could do it

512
00:31:11,550 --> 00:31:13,080
right, do it like all the other
guys,

513
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,720
of course, this runs it x, y,
but do it right,

514
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:20,520
go, go pay off everybody the way
you're supposed to do the big

515
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,700
test pay for it really go in
because otherwise someone else

516
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,980
is going to come and eat your
lunch, which is happening now.

517
00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:33,870
And someone forwarded the email
to me from and what GCC key who

518
00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:37,140
is the CEO, dear 23andme.
Customers, I want to reach out

519
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,570
to you about the FDA letter that
was sent to 23 and me last

520
00:31:39,570 --> 00:31:43,170
Friday, it is absolutely
critical that our customers get

521
00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:47,730
quality and get high quality
genetic data they can trust. We

522
00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:50,430
have worked extensively with our
lab partner to make sure that

523
00:31:50,430 --> 00:31:57,990
the results we return are
accurate. We stand behind the

524
00:31:57,990 --> 00:32:02,130
data, that when we were we stand
behind the data that we returned

525
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:05,610
to customers, but we recognise
that the FDA needs to be

526
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:08,460
convinced convinced of the
quality of our data as well,

527
00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:11,400
which is a lie, because this is
not what the letter says I read

528
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:17,910
the letter, and the FDA is not
questioning. They're testing.

529
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,960
They're questioning what they
are marketing. And this is where

530
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,090
it gets this is where you get
into philosophical discussion,

531
00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:29,640
which I find the only
interesting part is can a test a

532
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:36,060
basically a test tube of saliva
that is sent off in the mail,

533
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:39,270
can that be classified as a
medical device? Because that is

534
00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:42,000
the law that the FDA is pointing
to? And I think that's that's a

535
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,320
conversation worth having?

536
00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:51,960
Yeah, the device arguments a
little weak, it seems to me. I

537
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,640
think if they went after them
for diagnosis without having an

538
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,020
MD kind of thing, or go or this
sort of blanket, I mean, they go

539
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:05,820
after websites to tell you to
take two aspirin. They go after

540
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:09,240
individuals who are natural via
you know, the natural,

541
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,550
you can't do it. Yeah, of
course, there's no sign take our

542
00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:11,970
vitamin

543
00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:14,610
Beach, well, boom, knock, knock
knock, hey, you're gonna tell

544
00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:15,390
people to do that?

545
00:33:15,450 --> 00:33:22,140
Yeah. So here's an animal a one
paragraph of an analysis that I

546
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:27,420
got from someone who's in the
field, about the risks to while

547
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,360
23andme can tell you you have
risk based on genetic

548
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,540
information, they can't tell you
absolute risk in any meaningful

549
00:33:33,540 --> 00:33:37,440
way. Because the vast majority
of diseases people are

550
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,490
interested in don't have a very
strong genetic component. Even

551
00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:45,540
when heritability scores are
high, the link genes are very

552
00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:49,620
weak associations. So these guys
are selling a product to

553
00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,080
diagnose health and make health
decisions, which has not been

554
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,110
approved by the FDA, the product
is questionable and wouldn't

555
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:58,830
actually pass muster as a
diagnostic test. Even though

556
00:33:59,310 --> 00:34:03,000
they aren't even all that rigid
about those kinds of tests. The

557
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,910
FDA, this is a no brainer, they
should have been shut down a

558
00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:09,420
long time ago. As for if the
data you can get for this price

559
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:13,200
is any good. We won't even get
to that step. If you even if you

560
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,840
assume the data is perfect. They
can't do what they're claiming

561
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,840
to do. And if they could, they
would need FDA approval to do

562
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,100
so. So I think the data may be
reasonable. I've seen a lot of

563
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:27,960
people who have compared it to
other expensive tests. And and

564
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,280
it seems like the database

565
00:34:29,790 --> 00:34:33,630
outsourcing it just and doing it
getting a Bulk Rate. Yeah. I'm

566
00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:37,320
sure that you know if it's done
by one of these major firms that

567
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,230
normally charges 5000 bucks, the
reason they were charging 5000

568
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:43,320
bucks because there wasn't a
huge demand for this sort of

569
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,050
thing. There was a demand for
identification DNA, which is a

570
00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:46,830
different thing.

571
00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:49,620
Right. And it's interesting the
other other companies that were

572
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:53,370
doing this Navigenics was one
company they were acquired last

573
00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:56,280
year by Life Technologies. So So
that's off the market. These

574
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,970
really are the only guys left
and I did put in the show notes

575
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,650
A article from 2009 from the New
York Times where it specifically

576
00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:11,130
talks about how genes show
limited value in predicting

577
00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:14,280
diseases, so the hereditary
stuff, it's interesting, you

578
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,510
know, I'm part Neanderthal or
whatever, you know, that's sure,

579
00:35:18,540 --> 00:35:22,470
let's see if you're if you're if
you care. But really, in

580
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:28,140
predicting diseases, it's still
a pipe dream. And while I'm

581
00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:32,190
excited for people who want to
know and think this is great

582
00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:34,800
democratisation of health care,
and you'll have some

583
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,670
personalised medicine in the
future, you know, it's a little

584
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:43,650
early to lay this on to the
public. Because the public is

585
00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:44,310
dumb.

586
00:35:47,699 --> 00:35:52,199
Yeah, yeah. This unfortunate
situation. Seems to be true.

587
00:35:52,229 --> 00:35:56,039
Yeah. So it will be very
interesting on Sunday cuz I was

588
00:35:56,039 --> 00:36:02,159
just gloating. I'm just like,
he's stupid recreational data.

589
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:06,570
Recreational data, that's
recreational, big data.

590
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,960
That's it says it on the 23andme
has a disclaimer.

591
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,010
It says, Oh, this is just a
game. Yeah, like a disclaimer.

592
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:16,650
Horowitz. And I have when we
pick stocks, exactly.

593
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,190
We may or may not hold these
stocks. But we're really just

594
00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:23,580
crapping around here. Yeah, let
me let me see where there I have

595
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:26,850
their, their disclaimer here on
the website somewhere, just a

596
00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:27,330
game.

597
00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:31,560
That's exactly know that for
some reason, I don't know why.

598
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,740
But yeah, the old disclaimer,
well, you know, they come out of

599
00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:37,920
Silicon Valley thinking. So
everything's got a disclaimer,

600
00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:41,040
you know, and then if you hurt
yourself using the product, then

601
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,550
you're you're not, you know, the
company is not liable. We say so

602
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:46,350
right here. And you're, there's
a EULA.

603
00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:51,420
Yeah, I think what, what really
irks me about the the reason why

604
00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:56,790
I'm irked about this company, is
because they have that Silicon

605
00:36:56,790 --> 00:37:01,890
Valley. We're a disruptive
mentality. That's what bugs me

606
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:05,490
about it. And it doesn't matter
who it is. But you know what I

607
00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:08,610
mean, you know, that like, oh,
yeah, we're disruptive. I know

608
00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:12,030
what you mean, I live here. Get
out of the way. We are

609
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:17,670
disruptive technology. It's
arrogant. It's just arrogant.

610
00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:20,520
It's like actually, someone
wrote a good article about this.

611
00:37:21,930 --> 00:37:26,430
In PC Magazine, let me see if I
have the article here. And

612
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:33,180
compared 23 Emmys arrogance to
the Goldie Blox. You may have

613
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:36,210
seen this commercial on
television, it's girls, and you

614
00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:41,910
know, they're there. It's
basically a commercial for kind

615
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:46,140
of tools for girls. And the
whole idea is, girls also want

616
00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:48,390
to be engineers. And you know,
we don't just want to have

617
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:53,040
Barbies, etc. But this company
GoldieBlox they use the Beastie

618
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:59,760
Boys, song, girls. They did a
parent quote, unquote, parody.

619
00:38:00,090 --> 00:38:04,470
But of course, it can't really
fall under the rules of under

620
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:09,600
the parody ruling of the word.
I'm looking for it to

621
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,470
be humorous.

622
00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:17,310
But now, what's the what can I
think of that? Well, I don't

623
00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:20,220
know what you're driving when
it's parody or news. You can

624
00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:23,820
copy something and it's fair use
fair use. Thank you. Very Oh,

625
00:38:23,820 --> 00:38:24,000
that's

626
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,660
what you're looking for.

627
00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:27,990
Yes, fair use, but it can't be
fair use because they're using

628
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:31,320
it to promote it's an ad.
They're using No, that's

629
00:38:32,219 --> 00:38:38,579
that's a violation. I mean, even
first of all, it has to be you

630
00:38:38,579 --> 00:38:41,519
can't do that ads are really
they're really rigid about that.

631
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,039
You can't use somebody's
likeness. You can't even look

632
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:49,019
like look alikes are usually up
to be sued. There's a lot of if

633
00:38:49,019 --> 00:38:51,089
you're going to make money if
you're doing something to make

634
00:38:51,089 --> 00:38:55,139
money off of somebody else's
copyrighted work or image or

635
00:38:55,139 --> 00:38:57,959
anything, you will get sued.
Let's

636
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:02,940
check this out. So this is a
Silicon Valley company. And Adam

637
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:06,660
YALC Yao Xiao crowd the Beastie
Boys when he died, he put in his

638
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,780
will, that the Beastie Boys
music that he was involved in

639
00:39:09,810 --> 00:39:13,500
may never be used for
advertising. And so the Beastie

640
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,350
Boys actually sent this company
a note and said, Hey, man, you

641
00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:19,440
know, it's really funny and
cool, but we really don't want

642
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,560
you to do that. In fact, our
dead partner also specifically

643
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,010
request you don't do that. And
this company, turned around and

644
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:30,660
sued the Beastie Boys first. So
this is the arrogance of Silicon

645
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:31,290
Valley,

646
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:34,590
Silicon Valley, douchebags come
to the fore what's the name of

647
00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:36,420
this group? Golden go ox

648
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:42,990
old D blocks, Gol D iy. BL o x
GoldieBlox. The article is

649
00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:45,930
written by Sascha Segan

650
00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:49,740
PCs lashes are the guy who does
all the phones and stuff.

651
00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:52,710
But there was a good article and
it says the same thing with

652
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:58,950
23andme. And basically, these
people are arrogant, and they're

653
00:39:58,950 --> 00:40:04,530
not alone. Willie, Willie Brown
who's your mayor? Was your mayor

654
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,900
Willie Brown, the old the old
San Francisco Mayor.

655
00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:09,120
Willie Brown.

656
00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:14,580
Let me see if I can find I can't
hear you. Right. Well, this is

657
00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:15,060
loading.

658
00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:18,270
You can't hear me. Well, while
it's loading.

659
00:40:18,419 --> 00:40:20,669
I met you. I just hear you
breaking up. But that's okay.

660
00:40:20,669 --> 00:40:22,139
Now what who you're looking for?

661
00:40:22,439 --> 00:40:27,809
Was it to I think it was Willie
Brown. What did he do? He wrote

662
00:40:27,809 --> 00:40:32,219
an article about I'm looking for
it right now wrote an article

663
00:40:32,219 --> 00:40:35,429
about San Francisco saying, you
know, you tech companies and

664
00:40:35,429 --> 00:40:38,159
particularly, yeah, Willie Brown
says techies have started a

665
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,619
class war in San Francisco.

666
00:40:41,699 --> 00:40:43,019
Yeah, I can buy into this.

667
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,760
Let me let me he I guess he has
a column in the in the

668
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,450
newspaper.

669
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:50,880
I don't know that. He does. But
okay. It's called Willie's

670
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:57,420
world. Yeah, and, and he says
there's a war brewing in the

671
00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:59,700
streets of San Francisco and a
lot of people could get caught

672
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:02,040
up in it if the tech world
doesn't start changing its self

673
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,610
centred culture. Every day in
every way from rising rents to

674
00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:08,880
rising prices at restaurants to
its private buses, the tech

675
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,940
world is becoming an object of
scorn. It is only a matter of

676
00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:15,000
time before the techies youthful
lustre fades and they're seen as

677
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,330
just another extension of Wall
Street. The Hell yeah, Willie.

678
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,220
Right on. He goes on to say you
know, you hit the tech world

679
00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:27,120
needs to nip this thorny plant
in the bud. They need to come

680
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,360
off their high cloud efforts to
save Africa or wherever they

681
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,860
take adventure vacations and
start making things better for

682
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:37,800
folks right here. They need to
start helping in Hunters Point

683
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,830
and in Chinatown, most of our
most of all, they need to start

684
00:41:40,830 --> 00:41:45,150
hiring locals. Yes. Very good.

685
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:48,960
Well, they had a one of the
things that what they've done

686
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,840
and Twitter's one of the and
Facebook are both offenders

687
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,180
here. But there's other
companies that are in the city

688
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:57,660
that just almost as bad, but
they're right downtown, they

689
00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:03,180
were given a sweet deal to to
put a their operations right in

690
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:07,170
the middle of like Market Street
where it's just a slum. I mean,

691
00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:11,520
our main street in San Francisco
Market Street is a slum. Yeah,

692
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,970
it is. So they put their
operations there, but they

693
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,800
essentially put guards and they
shuffle over to the you know,

694
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,460
they use a lot of Uber cars and
they essentially do not spend

695
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:26,130
any time on the streets, these
people and they go straight into

696
00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:29,310
the office at work. It's a
completely you know, kind of a

697
00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:34,200
it's a cocooned environment. And
they didn't go out mix or deal

698
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,370
with the homeless or anything.
And then they've jetted because

699
00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:42,840
they all seem to be renters,
nobody seems except a very few

700
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,320
have a clue about the benefits
of property ownership with their

701
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,410
kind of money they have. So they
so they've got all these so the

702
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,130
cities over built with extremely
expensive apartments. I mean, if

703
00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:55,890
you go past one of these real
estate companies, and you look

704
00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:59,040
at these, the prices on these
apartments, we're talking about

705
00:42:59,550 --> 00:43:03,150
an apartment that are actually
they I guess they're kind of

706
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:05,880
condo like apartments, maybe
they're condos, but whatever

707
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,580
they are, they're millions of
dollars. If you looked at the

708
00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:10,260
real estate prices in San
Francisco,

709
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,780
I'm waiting for you to get the
hell out of there. You got to

710
00:43:12,780 --> 00:43:16,740
pack up before this thing goes
by mail going up. So it's like

711
00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:19,260
your own personal Bitcoin. You
got to get out John, you got to

712
00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:25,530
cash in now. Your house, which,
honestly was I mean, it's it's

713
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:28,020
eight and all that, but it's
probably a $2 million

714
00:43:28,290 --> 00:43:30,900
house now. Not quite well.

715
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:35,339
You gotta set a line in the sand
and get out. I need a backup

716
00:43:35,339 --> 00:43:41,309
plan. My rich friend John, get
out. You probably own that

717
00:43:41,309 --> 00:43:43,889
thing. You are old enough.
You've lived there long enough?

718
00:43:44,009 --> 00:43:46,829
No, actually, we always take
money out of this place. But we

719
00:43:46,829 --> 00:43:50,399
never take so much out because
as a writer, they won't give you

720
00:43:50,399 --> 00:43:53,219
the deal. You don't get any take
a lot out. They don't get any

721
00:43:53,219 --> 00:43:55,619
deal. They always assume Yeah,
you know, you're a bum.

722
00:43:58,409 --> 00:43:59,219
You are a bum.

723
00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:01,980
So they don't give you they
won't give you enough to you

724
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:04,530
know, you can do some some
maintenance. But it's not like

725
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,340
so yeah, most of the places paid
for and then I have my mother's

726
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:11,640
old place. Oh, right. And then
which is going to be worse. So

727
00:44:11,850 --> 00:44:16,710
eventually, you could you could
put 20 Python programmers in

728
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:17,010
there.

729
00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:24,300
Mimi wants to build these mini
houses for people.

730
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:29,430
Oh, and why don't you just call
it Mimi's agenda 20 one.com I'll

731
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:33,750
be great. 23 and me 23andme
services are for research,

732
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:37,470
informational and educational
use only we do not provide

733
00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:41,250
medical advice, which of course
is the rub because they are.

734
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,020
This means two things. First,
many of the genetic discoveries

735
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:48,660
that we report have not been
clinically validated. And the

736
00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:51,030
technology we use, which is the
same technology used by the

737
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:53,790
research community to date has
not been widely used for

738
00:44:53,790 --> 00:44:56,970
clinical testing second, in
order to expand and accelerate

739
00:44:56,970 --> 00:44:59,370
the understanding of practical
application of genetic knowledge

740
00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:03,030
and healthcare. We invite all
genotype users to participate in

741
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:06,480
the 23. And we research
participation. And this is

742
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,470
really what is about this is why
23andme bugs me because they are

743
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:14,550
the Twitter of health, they
essentially are making you pay

744
00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:19,740
for them to build their database
to go and sell to really big

745
00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:23,370
firms or, or themselves sell out
to be a big firm, because they

746
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:27,060
have a million different genetic
profiles, that is their game,

747
00:45:27,090 --> 00:45:30,210
they don't care about you. And
they'll give you anything any

748
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:33,930
shiny thing that you think is
awesome. Like your the chance of

749
00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:38,700
you having micro penis or your
kid, if you have micro penis,

750
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:43,680
you probably know by now you
don't need the test. Net, but

751
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:45,690
some people need

752
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:47,460
so we're not gonna,

753
00:45:47,969 --> 00:45:51,389
we're not gonna do that we're
not going to do that. So I'm

754
00:45:51,389 --> 00:45:53,459
very happy that this has
happened. And I want and I'm

755
00:45:53,459 --> 00:45:58,139
very curious to see what the
next step will be. I personally

756
00:45:58,169 --> 00:46:02,819
am very interested in using the
open source stuff that I think

757
00:46:02,819 --> 00:46:03,839
is kind of cool this

758
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,100
Prometheus results to then throw
it into the other system. Yeah,

759
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:08,250
and

760
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:13,830
it's and they're accessing the
same SM SMP data. So you can

761
00:46:13,830 --> 00:46:17,160
analyse anything, make your own,
you know, it's fine, you charted

762
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,820
graphic, do whatever you want.
But, you know, but these guys

763
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:25,590
are charlatans. I tell you
charlatans, anyway, but I

764
00:46:25,590 --> 00:46:27,930
thought it was quite funny.
Particularly with the dinner

765
00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:30,570
coming up. That should make for
an interesting little,

766
00:46:32,310 --> 00:46:35,550
little pin or no height table
taken, personally.

767
00:46:36,659 --> 00:46:41,189
And food is always good. Yeah, I
guess that helps. And I've

768
00:46:41,189 --> 00:46:44,999
really liked these people. It's
not that hard to like people who

769
00:46:44,999 --> 00:46:48,689
just differ in in opinion. You
just got to stay away from

770
00:46:48,689 --> 00:46:49,559
certain topics. Well,

771
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,530
as you see, you're live in
Berkeley. No, because you're

772
00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:56,070
surrounded, it would be
different. You are surrounded.

773
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,220
Well, you're all Hummers, which
makes you more annoyed.

774
00:46:59,549 --> 00:47:03,389
You know, Austin is its its own
little Berkeley in Texas.

775
00:47:04,049 --> 00:47:08,249
There's no doubt about that.
Instead, it's very much

776
00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:11,310
a Deborah Sterling, who is a
runner of Goldy bucks doesn't

777
00:47:11,310 --> 00:47:13,740
really she doesn't have much of
a background. She is just

778
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,900
essentially just graduated from
Stanford 2005. Worked at a

779
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:23,310
couple of companies for a couple
of years. And then she came up

780
00:47:23,310 --> 00:47:29,250
with this idea. It's very
actually difficult to find much

781
00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:33,480
on her. She looks like Kiki
Stanford, or Stanford.

782
00:47:33,989 --> 00:47:35,099
She's one of those.

783
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,950
She has Yeah, she almost has the
exact same look.

784
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,420
And I'm all for what I like her
product. I like the idea of

785
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:43,080
selling spray

786
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,680
probably but this idea of of
exploiting, you know, of going

787
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,680
off the reservation and pulling
a stunt like this and then suing

788
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,390
the Beastie Boys is really it's
abhorrent?

789
00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:58,200
Yes. Yeah. Well, that but that
is the arrogance of Silicon

790
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,610
Valley. And we see it
everywhere. And it's the basis

791
00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:06,660
of this whole Snowden thing.
Everything points right back to

792
00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:11,250
Silicon Valley. With Google's
arrogance that you know, they

793
00:48:11,250 --> 00:48:13,800
provide you with all the best
things in life and you don't

794
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,490
need to pay for it and and
they're they're selling your

795
00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:20,940
data out the backdoor and
meanwhile, feigning some great

796
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:25,320
insult at the front door. You
know, the NSA documents have

797
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,870
been being capitalised upon by
Glenn Greenwald with a Silicon

798
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:34,830
Valley Insider. They're selling
it in bits and dribs and drabs

799
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,090
the whole thing the whole place
is discussed disgust disgust me.

800
00:48:39,570 --> 00:48:44,130
It disgusts me. However, it's
Thanksgiving and all I want to

801
00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:47,820
say John is thank you for your
courage and in the morning,

802
00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:49,920
yeah, in the morning, do you
Adam curry and also want to say

803
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,930
in the morning all the boots on
the ground feet in the air subs

804
00:48:51,930 --> 00:48:54,480
in the water and all the Dames
and all the nights out there?

805
00:48:54,510 --> 00:48:57,900
Yes. And in the morning to
everyone in our chat room. No

806
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,330
agenda. stream.com no agenda.
chat.net Thank you all for

807
00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:04,230
showing up on this. Thanksgiving
Day. Those of you in America

808
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:07,170
Oregon, Canada Navia. I guess
you saw it in a different day.

809
00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:10,890
Also, thank you to our artists.
And let's see we had nick the

810
00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:19,290
rat, bring us he broke the the
hattrick Martin JJs hattrick on

811
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:23,430
three album arts in a row, and
of course no agenda art

812
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:26,910
generator.com is where you can
submit your artwork and it's

813
00:49:26,910 --> 00:49:30,090
there for everyone to see all of
the submissions to us of course

814
00:49:30,090 --> 00:49:34,020
however you feel fit. They also
show up in the newsletters etc.

815
00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:40,530
So it's not like you don't get
on the in the mp3 It's over. And

816
00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:45,930
today, I think we have a couple
of yes we do. We have some

817
00:49:45,930 --> 00:49:48,090
executive producers and
Associate Executive producers.

818
00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:52,500
These are the people who keep
the show running by doing

819
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,790
exactly what the future of all
media will be. We need to be

820
00:49:56,790 --> 00:50:01,320
funded directly by the people
who are enjoying the product is

821
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,220
value for value. No network is
necessary. We don't need to be

822
00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:08,220
have someone like promoting us
in some or us to promote other

823
00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:11,520
things. It's just it's just us,
us and you. And if you don't

824
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,200
like us, then there'll be no us.

825
00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:19,020
Well, we had a good turnout
today. Thank you for this

826
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:21,870
holiday. I think a lot of people
do appreciate the fact that we

827
00:50:21,870 --> 00:50:25,650
work on Thanksgiving while
everyone else is sleeping in and

828
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:30,630
watching football. So we have a
couple of big donations that

829
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:34,170
were suggested in the
newsletter. Mark Abbott came in

830
00:50:34,170 --> 00:50:39,510
with $569.69 This is show 569

831
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:47,340
Wow we had so he's the episode
member. Yes, so the 569 Club

832
00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:50,910
getting rarer as an episode
number so yeah, these

833
00:50:50,909 --> 00:50:53,729
guys should Reese reboot these
these clubs are not

834
00:50:53,730 --> 00:50:59,400
large 107 for a hot pockets tour
to Canada donate in person but

835
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,400
instead of just donate online
This will finish it by the

836
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,220
reason Alberta where all the
money is, as this will finish

837
00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:09,060
off my knighthood. And we have
on the list price. It count is

838
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:12,360
executive producer as well as
hopefully the 69 club I feel

839
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,260
it's a triple win. Yes. Because
I cannot care about the Xbox

840
00:51:16,260 --> 00:51:20,550
One. I'm showing support for
what I do care for. That's very

841
00:51:20,550 --> 00:51:24,900
cool. And my ex was actually in
Edmonton. He's not in Alberta.

842
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:27,120
He's in the classy little town
of Edmonton.

843
00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:29,250
Is the Xbox One that expensive?

844
00:51:30,869 --> 00:51:34,949
No, okay. Till he doesn't, but
he wants to next bucks want to

845
00:51:34,949 --> 00:51:35,249
know.

846
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,810
No way. So

847
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,870
here we go. The Baron is Silicon
Valley, Sir David Foley from

848
00:51:39,870 --> 00:51:42,720
velocity. Lost cat hold on cats.

849
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,239
He he is a Duke. He's not a
baron. I've had email.

850
00:51:48,989 --> 00:51:51,479
He puts somebody puts bear
You're right. He's the Duke.

851
00:51:51,509 --> 00:51:52,469
Yeah, he's a Duke.

852
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,250
And somebody somebody puts keeps
putting Baron in the

853
00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:59,250
spreadsheet, which is factually
incorrect.

854
00:52:00,449 --> 00:52:05,519
Is $569 Oh my goodness. ITM John
and Adam this for providing the

855
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:07,649
best podcast in the universe on
Turkey Day. And I

856
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:12,900
just want to say I am disgusted
by all of Silicon Valley except.

857
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:19,410
Whoa, what did you just do?
John? What what are you doing?

858
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:21,659
And didn't do anything?

859
00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:25,950
Well, you walked away and your
your something like brought your

860
00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:28,860
volume up and I heard you I
heard the guy coughing on the

861
00:52:28,860 --> 00:52:33,240
street. Wow. Anyway, I was
saying that I loathe all of

862
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:40,980
Silicon Valley except for Sir
David Foley are our Duke What

863
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:41,970
are you looking at peerage?

864
00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:45,450
No, it's not the point. I have a
note here and I gotta go find

865
00:52:45,450 --> 00:52:49,530
it. Okay, this is a note from
Brian s Hall and arbour Michigan

866
00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:55,890
who has his accounting and
brought in came in with the

867
00:52:55,890 --> 00:53:01,080
$533.33 to become a knight is
the accounting of the back and

868
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,530
they held this is small notes,
so I'll pick it up for the mid

869
00:53:05,070 --> 00:53:05,520
thing.

870
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:10,110
Why it's just unbelievable. I
haven't it wasn't an email or

871
00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:13,290
No, no, no, it's a written
notice came in as a check. Okay,

872
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,490
all right, Scott Bennett. We'll
get back to Brian Scott. You'll

873
00:53:17,490 --> 00:53:20,190
be surprised by the time we get
back to him. Scott Bennett

874
00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:26,640
401 23 Orangeville Ontario no
note. Jeremy Johnson at 338 88

875
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,530
and Port Angeles once Washington
report angle ease. Happy fakes

876
00:53:31,530 --> 00:53:35,340
giving to the best podcast and
universe no better way to piss

877
00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:38,970
off the relatives in the making.
Call you sir. Now where are the

878
00:53:38,970 --> 00:53:39,960
hookers and blow?

879
00:53:40,889 --> 00:53:42,599
You should ask your relatives
for that meeting

880
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,590
next time he's in Port Angeles
nuts. These make it rain for Sir

881
00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:48,270
birch and Eric the shill.

882
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:52,350
Oh, okay. Write that down. Are
we bringing them up on stage or

883
00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:55,080
do we just I'm not gonna bring
those I think I think for this

884
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,780
we should call them to the
champagne room. Because we have

885
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:01,770
some waiting,

886
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,690
sir. Bert, you lost your wallet.

887
00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:15,450
Exactly. In the champagne room,
in between the couch. Okay,

888
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,310
thank you. Thank you, Jeremy.

889
00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:23,160
Scott in Herndon, Virginia
333 33. Don't read my last name.

890
00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:30,180
I need I read good our ED cuz of
common common core value for

891
00:54:30,180 --> 00:54:34,920
value to the best podcast in the
universe. I was writing a Warren

892
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,310
Piece note but my machine
Colonel panicked. Thank you for

893
00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:43,950
your courage. Wow, thank you.
James Spitzer out of Jamaica

894
00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:48,660
Plains also 333 33 and he sent
us a note which I sent to you.

895
00:54:50,909 --> 00:54:53,639
We usually try to find the
restaurant open on Thanksgiving

896
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:56,939
and always leave a much larger
than normal guilt tip to the

897
00:54:56,939 --> 00:55:00,989
servers who are giving up their
holiday to feed our pie. all's I

898
00:55:00,989 --> 00:55:06,119
can do no less for you, Gertrude
and Heathcliff. I'm sorry.

899
00:55:06,539 --> 00:55:09,689
That's our names Gertrude and
Heathcliff for working while we

900
00:55:09,689 --> 00:55:12,569
enjoy the holiday napping for
humanity this year, instead of

901
00:55:12,569 --> 00:55:15,689
going out to a fine restaurant,
we will be gathering over our

902
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,259
spiral cut HoneyBaked spam with
slices of mac and cheese and

903
00:55:19,259 --> 00:55:22,979
kale to thank you for your
courage. The tip loss to the

904
00:55:22,979 --> 00:55:26,609
servers meagre income will be
your gain. As always, we will

905
00:55:26,609 --> 00:55:29,639
tune in to listen to the annual
story of Thanksgiving, which

906
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:34,049
never ceases to inspire no
matter how many, many many times

907
00:55:34,049 --> 00:55:38,519
we hear it. Yours, James Baron
of Jamaica Plain and surrounding

908
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:43,889
plantations. I've met Serge IP
and I have to say Miss Mickey

909
00:55:43,889 --> 00:55:47,879
and I have a little crush on Sir
Jim. What do you got going on?

910
00:55:48,149 --> 00:55:51,659
He's just he's got it going on.
Yeah, he's

911
00:55:51,929 --> 00:55:56,489
got the letter here from from
Brian Moses Hall, who's actually

912
00:55:56,489 --> 00:56:00,839
a ham. Kevin eight. This is
yellow.

913
00:56:02,730 --> 00:56:06,690
Kevin eight. This is yellow.
This is a new one. We've gone

914
00:56:06,690 --> 00:56:11,310
from Blue Dot fire hydrant. To
Kevin eight. This is yellow.

915
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:12,960
Check

916
00:56:14,250 --> 00:56:16,500
in the morning skipper and
Gilligan and close find a

917
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:20,700
donation fighter 373 Which By my
calculation brings me to he

918
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:28,800
wants to be a sir Lulu dark
Barber. What he wants to be sir

919
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,000
Lou dark bark. Fudge fountain.

920
00:56:33,869 --> 00:56:37,409
Sir Lu dark. Wat Ba ba

921
00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:42,840
AR K. Fudge fountain. A good
friend overheard an eccentric

922
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,770
coworker uttering these words to
no one in particular,

923
00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:51,870
sir Lucario by Burke fudge
fountain. Yeah, okay.

924
00:56:52,049 --> 00:56:55,709
In spite of the scatological
undertone, which I confirm via

925
00:56:55,739 --> 00:56:59,879
Urban Dictionary, we have found
this cryptic utterance

926
00:56:59,909 --> 00:57:04,379
deliriously funny, I suspect
elf. They weren't for large

927
00:57:04,379 --> 00:57:09,269
corporations, which shall remain
anonymous building MRI coils. So

928
00:57:09,269 --> 00:57:12,539
go figure. Yeah,

929
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,740
those guys read the poop.

930
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:17,370
In lieu of requesting a clip may
I suggest that along with the

931
00:57:17,370 --> 00:57:20,970
mutton meat and other goodies, I
could easily go for some

932
00:57:21,150 --> 00:57:24,270
librarians and Jager bombs.

933
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,300
Okay, we'll add that to the
list.

934
00:57:31,409 --> 00:57:33,299
That's it's always good to say
Yeah, got

935
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:35,820
it. It's already down codified.

936
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:42,510
Spitzer was last Nolan Conrad
333 33 from Vancouver, British

937
00:57:42,510 --> 00:57:45,780
Columbia, Canada hate crackpot
buzzkill was on the 1111 month

938
00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:47,940
he got kicked off, I'm back on
and now figured out what to get

939
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,850
makeup for last time. I will
turn 33 in January and plan on

940
00:57:50,850 --> 00:57:53,340
becoming an eight before I
turned 34. I would like some

941
00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:57,240
karma from my friend Jeff
Richardson and a war on chicken

942
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,010
sounder if that is still around.
Yeah, of course it is. Don't

943
00:58:02,010 --> 00:58:07,380
mention this on the show. I
think but I think reading it

944
00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:10,290
now. Let me Yeah. Oh, okay. We
won't mention it.

945
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:26,070
You've got karma. There you go.
And thank you for your courage

946
00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:27,780
and your support of the
programme.

947
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,750
There'll be executive producers
on to social executives for

948
00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:34,350
today's show. 569 Anonymous and
Mill Valley, California $250.

949
00:58:34,350 --> 00:58:40,380
Tomic Baldric 246 90 In Nutley,
New Jersey. The dollar amount

950
00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:45,360
the dollar amount above amounts
to the cost I paid at a local

951
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Granger for one lousy circuit
breaker. Wow. After learning my

952
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,750
company would cover the expense
I chose to pass the bucks to you

953
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:55,500
instead. After all thanks to JC
DS musical talents and his

954
00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:58,440
cultural ear to the ground.
Everybody on my Christmas list

955
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:05,280
will be getting the Otama tone.
It may not be the next Tickle Me

956
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,510
Elmo, but I'm sure to make an
irritatingly memorable Christmas

957
00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:10,140
dinner.

958
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:13,920
It's like just handed over to
your fret your buddy your

959
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,710
family's kids and watch the fun.
And by

960
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:20,940
the way, what we like to do in
the Dvorak family, you have like

961
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,960
Eric's got his kids. So what you
want to get the kids is like a

962
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,420
drum set. One of those
mechanical machine guns a

963
00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:34,380
vuvuzela says he's got different
kids. You want the both of the

964
00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:38,760
kids to have the machine guns.
You're pulling in your shoot. It

965
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,230
makes nothing but the worst
sounding. drum sets also good.

966
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:47,550
The kids probably won't be able
to get enough volume on.

967
00:59:48,719 --> 00:59:50,189
It's funny. You really do that.

968
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,980
That's again, it gives you you
actually do that.

969
00:59:54,270 --> 00:59:57,570
Yeah, I bet you do. You're
you're in a hole like that. You

970
00:59:57,570 --> 01:00:00,510
are good to Eric's Kids,

971
01:00:01,710 --> 01:00:07,170
says you Yeah. Oh Richardson
Richfield Minnesota nuts. To

972
01:00:07,170 --> 01:00:10,710
2222. It's been a while since my
last contribution. I'm feeling a

973
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:16,050
little douchey. So here's a bag
of deuces. Thank you. Joshua

974
01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:20,010
Dietrich in Kirkland, Washington
to 20 to 22. The fact that Paul

975
01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:23,190
and I donated 299 on November
10, to show was pure

976
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:26,730
coincidence, despite the jingle.
By the way, thanks for playing

977
01:00:26,730 --> 01:00:29,790
the in the morning song this
Sunday. I run a half marathon

978
01:00:29,790 --> 01:00:31,800
for the first time ever I plan
to listen to show while running

979
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,120
so some karma would be fantastic
right now. At approximately 10

980
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,730
minutes, 30 seconds per mile. I
hope to finish the run in two

981
01:00:38,730 --> 01:00:41,700
hours. 22 minutes and 22
seconds. Let's know how that

982
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:44,160
goes. Yeah, thanks for taking
time out of your Thanksgiving to

983
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,570
do the show. You guys are great.

984
01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:48,630
That's nice. Josh is a little
bit of a running karma for you

985
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:51,720
as requested. You've got karma

986
01:00:55,469 --> 01:01:02,759
we got Arliss ven nonnamous In
Mechanicsville, Virginie to 20

987
01:01:02,759 --> 01:01:06,359
to 20 to make it rain twice for
my super hot petite milk yet

988
01:01:06,359 --> 01:01:11,939
Jenine who was in Austin for
Thanksgiving, but I'm not tired

989
01:01:11,939 --> 01:01:14,909
of being a Boehner and looking
for some karma for the holidays.

990
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:19,709
Also wanted? That sounds like a
commercial. Really what is tired

991
01:01:19,709 --> 01:01:22,169
of being a Boehner looking for
some karma for the holidays?

992
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:25,409
Check out the new agenda show no
agenda? show.com

993
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,460
So we're gonna do the Make It
Rain during the regular segment,

994
01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:31,500
right? We'll do Yeah, okay. You
are you writing these names?

995
01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:33,930
names down? Janine, you got
Janine, you gotta call her to

996
01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:34,950
the main stage.

997
01:01:35,010 --> 01:01:38,070
She got it early because I
already got a script but okay.

998
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:46,470
Writers on this thing you got a
team. Your team? You're writing

999
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:46,950
team.

1000
01:01:48,989 --> 01:01:51,689
He says I want to suggestions
for cooking a Thanksgiving meal

1001
01:01:51,689 --> 01:01:55,499
I can make Well my wife is away.
turkey sandwiches.

1002
01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:59,340
Turkey loaf is already cooked
one 800 Domino's my friend.

1003
01:02:00,270 --> 01:02:03,240
Good wine selection. You know,
Turkey is great because it goes

1004
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,790
with everything. So you can have
champagne, which I would

1005
01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:06,540
recommend which is

1006
01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:08,910
what I got from my friends upon
your recommendation.

1007
01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:14,910
Yes. You got some poll, Roget.
Yeah. champagnes a winner.

1008
01:02:15,570 --> 01:02:20,340
Beaujolais is a winner. pinos a
winner actually vollum Cabernet

1009
01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:22,800
is probably the weakest one I
think good Chardonnay would also

1010
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:23,340
where I really

1011
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:25,680
liked your suggestion of the
champagne though because that's

1012
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,700
like yeah, I can see how that
really goes well with Oh yeah.

1013
01:02:29,790 --> 01:02:32,460
with Turkey. Although I think
people would like most people

1014
01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:35,040
think oh, what we're not
celebrating anything.

1015
01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:38,430
No the champagne. People are
irked about this meme by the way

1016
01:02:38,460 --> 01:02:41,730
the celebration thing it's only
champagne should not be seen as

1017
01:02:41,730 --> 01:02:45,000
a celebrate me you can if you
want for some celebration but

1018
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,350
for what Champagne is a dinner
wine. Is a very specific dinner

1019
01:02:49,350 --> 01:02:53,040
wine you can have it anytime you
want. And it goes with pretty

1020
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,620
much everything you know any
goes great

1021
01:02:55,620 --> 01:02:57,420
with Janine in the champagne
room.

1022
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:04,020
They would but that Champagne is
yours the junk by the way. They

1023
01:03:04,020 --> 01:03:04,950
don't have good champagne

1024
01:03:04,949 --> 01:03:06,719
and has joined depends on who
you know.

1025
01:03:10,139 --> 01:03:13,979
Sir Brian Ferguson and Foothill
Ranch California also to 2222

1026
01:03:13,979 --> 01:03:16,649
He's on the Sunday show. I made
a simple comment. I am a night

1027
01:03:16,649 --> 01:03:20,129
not a new night is wanted to be
called Sir Brian. We reunited.

1028
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:24,569
Reunited me it felt kind of
weird. I have a ring already. So

1029
01:03:24,839 --> 01:03:28,589
Thursday show I'm a double night
after this contribution. Baronet

1030
01:03:28,859 --> 01:03:32,369
just figured out how close I
wasn't. It was so close to two

1031
01:03:32,369 --> 01:03:35,519
times make it rain. What the
heck. So my two names are my two

1032
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:37,349
ex wife Shirley and Donna.

1033
01:03:38,550 --> 01:03:44,670
Write them down. Perfect.
Perfect. Well, that's a good

1034
01:03:44,670 --> 01:03:49,560
that's a an that. Thank you. I
was if people want to know what

1035
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,560
I'm thankful for, besides my the
two beautiful women in my life,

1036
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,310
my daughter, my wife. I am very
thankful that there are people

1037
01:03:56,310 --> 01:04:00,270
out there who give a crap about
what we say and actually listen

1038
01:04:00,270 --> 01:04:02,670
to us and are interested in
helping us.

1039
01:04:03,210 --> 01:04:06,330
Yes, I appreciate that to an
extreme. I want to thank

1040
01:04:06,330 --> 01:04:09,270
everybody who became a producer
or executive producer for the

1041
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:14,700
show and I want to remind you to
go to divorce.org/in A to help

1042
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:17,400
us out for the show coming up on
Sunday which is essentially the

1043
01:04:17,490 --> 01:04:20,460
the end of the holiday weekend
where we'll be driving back and

1044
01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:21,900
we were here we are working
again.

1045
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:26,550
That's right. That's right. All
right, because it's what we do.

1046
01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:29,970
Miss Mickey is out in LA she's
you know she did her shoot on

1047
01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:33,900
Wednesday. She's not coming back
until Saturday. Hmm. How does

1048
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:34,380
that work?

1049
01:04:34,409 --> 01:04:39,839
You got this texter the sex
texter chicken border so

1050
01:04:41,790 --> 01:04:45,240
I want to thank clearly a no
agenda producer for putting in a

1051
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:52,770
great Easter egg slash PR moment
although, you know, it's been

1052
01:04:52,770 --> 01:04:56,460
completely misinterpreted by the
mainstream media, obviously, but

1053
01:04:56,460 --> 01:05:00,300
people in the know are clear
that the person who does This

1054
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:03,300
particular computer programming
is a listener of the best

1055
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:05,280
podcast in the universe to
Georgia

1056
01:05:05,279 --> 01:05:07,649
now where DeKalb County
officials are scratching their

1057
01:05:07,649 --> 01:05:11,369
heads over a jewel form, the
online form lists slave as an

1058
01:05:11,369 --> 01:05:14,789
occupation. But central jurors
who filled out the new forms

1059
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:18,449
said they selected s for sales.
But what they got was the

1060
01:05:18,449 --> 01:05:20,099
occupation slave.

1061
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,690
Yeah, I was gonna clip that too.
It's very funny. You know,

1062
01:05:24,690 --> 01:05:24,840
that's

1063
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,330
gotta be that's got to be a no
agenda producer.

1064
01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:28,290
I hope so.

1065
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,000
Yeah. But the funny thing is,
they

1066
01:05:29,999 --> 01:05:33,089
just slipped it in. So at some
point, just, but it was just, it

1067
01:05:33,089 --> 01:05:35,969
was a totally easter egg a bomb.
He's like one of the things you

1068
01:05:35,969 --> 01:05:38,639
kind of do. Nobody can catch you
there. They're gonna look into

1069
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:38,879
it.

1070
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,479
But here's the crazy thing is I
saw at least four reports.

1071
01:05:43,529 --> 01:05:46,679
Mainstream media reports and
they're and they're showing or

1072
01:05:46,739 --> 01:05:50,039
asking people on the street, but
only black people. How do you

1073
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:53,459
feel about that? It's like, but
slave, you know, Slack.

1074
01:05:53,580 --> 01:05:55,650
I saw they had a one cup of
white people in one of the

1075
01:05:55,650 --> 01:05:58,470
stations. And they laughed about
it thought it was hilarious.

1076
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:02,519
Yeah, because I mean, everyone's
him. This is not the term slave.

1077
01:06:02,729 --> 01:06:05,309
And this is this is I guess what
I take exception to this for

1078
01:06:05,309 --> 01:06:08,849
some reason. Whenever you hear
the word slave, we were only

1079
01:06:08,849 --> 01:06:12,959
allowed to think that is the
black man working for the white

1080
01:06:12,959 --> 01:06:16,829
man on the plantation. Whereas
we had slaves in Egypt. We still

1081
01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:20,009
got slaves everywhere in the
world slaves you got slaves were

1082
01:06:20,009 --> 01:06:23,309
slaves were slaves to the man.
That's it's a generalised term.

1083
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:27,209
And I we have to take that back
a little bit. I feel we can't

1084
01:06:27,209 --> 01:06:32,789
let that just be one type of a
visual for people. That's maybe

1085
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:39,599
just me. No agenda. People know
what it's all about vorak.org/n

1086
01:06:39,689 --> 01:06:42,239
A and why don't you go out and
find some of your fellow slaves

1087
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:43,619
and propagate our formula?

1088
01:06:44,339 --> 01:06:49,019
Our formula is this. We go out.
We hit people in the mouth

1089
01:07:00,179 --> 01:07:10,589
shut up. There we go. There we
go. Ah, because Mickey was out

1090
01:07:10,589 --> 01:07:14,639
of town. I had a lot of time to
look into stuff. A lot.

1091
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,970
Yeah, she's not running around
the town. Yeah, that's okay.

1092
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:22,860
Yeah, well, what did you find
out?

1093
01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:25,200
Well, I looked into a number of
things you want to talk about

1094
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:25,830
Iran.

1095
01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:29,190
I always I love talking about
Iran.

1096
01:07:29,429 --> 01:07:35,579
Iran is so we had this deal.
This, all of a sudden, this this

1097
01:07:35,579 --> 01:07:40,889
big deal. And, and I think the
people getting a raw deal in

1098
01:07:40,889 --> 01:07:44,729
general, about what this is
really about. Because if you

1099
01:07:44,729 --> 01:07:50,849
listen to the news, then it's
only about the bomb and you

1100
01:07:50,849 --> 01:07:54,149
know, making the bomb. And then
we can let them have a bomb. And

1101
01:07:54,449 --> 01:07:56,579
it's all about the bomb. So let
me play a couple of these

1102
01:07:56,579 --> 01:07:59,789
things. And there was some
confusion, of course, because

1103
01:07:59,909 --> 01:08:03,029
there's actually no deal nothing
is nothing has really happened.

1104
01:08:03,809 --> 01:08:07,649
Here is see which order should I
play this and I think this is

1105
01:08:08,579 --> 01:08:12,389
Kerry with Candy Crowley talking
about what this deal is not

1106
01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:17,250
so you, at this point, trust
Hassan Rouhani, the new

1107
01:08:17,250 --> 01:08:22,320
president in Iran to be able to
follow through,

1108
01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:26,640
are you convinced that he has
the power to do so because you

1109
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:31,320
know that the hardliners in
Iran? Certainly are singing a

1110
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,280
different tune than has been
sung at the negotiating table?

1111
01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:42,120
Absolutely. Absolutely. We're
well aware of that. And the

1112
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:47,160
simple answer to you is, none of
this is based on trust. It's not

1113
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,840
a question of trust. Yeah,

1114
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:50,700
that's what I'm like, Oh,
really?

1115
01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:53,760
Is this guy by the way? This
guy, that little tongue thing he

1116
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,150
does? He's still happening.
Yeah. Does that bother you? It

1117
01:08:57,150 --> 01:08:57,960
creeps me out.

1118
01:08:57,990 --> 01:09:02,760
I learned a long time ago from a
CIA agent, that when you are

1119
01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:05,940
meeting with someone, and when
they do that, when they stick

1120
01:09:05,940 --> 01:09:09,150
their tongue out like that,
whatever they proceeded, that

1121
01:09:09,150 --> 01:09:14,190
motion was a lie. That is how
I've been taught to interpret

1122
01:09:14,190 --> 01:09:19,560
the tongue. And if you look at
his speech I play a little bit

1123
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:27,330
of that as well. Here is
explaining you see it's right

1124
01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:33,210
here. Iran has the has no right
to enrich yet they can which he

1125
01:09:33,210 --> 01:09:36,360
I guess he's doing with
Stephanopoulos every single time

1126
01:09:36,510 --> 01:09:39,150
that lie, there's something that
you would even think is a lie.

1127
01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:42,060
The tongue comes out. It's not
consistent. It's not like always

1128
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:45,270
licking his lips or anything. It
really is when right after he

1129
01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:45,900
tells a lie.

1130
01:09:45,930 --> 01:09:50,220
What is the US position does the
US respect and recognise that

1131
01:09:50,220 --> 01:09:52,380
right of Iran? Yes or no?

1132
01:09:53,010 --> 01:09:57,630
No, there is no right to enrich.
We do not recognise a right to

1133
01:09:57,630 --> 01:10:03,600
enrich. It is clear you In the,
in the NPT, in the Non

1134
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,800
Proliferation Treaty, it's very,
very clear that there is no

1135
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:12,060
right to and read, however, but
under the terms of this

1136
01:10:12,060 --> 01:10:16,260
agreement, there will be a
negotiation over whether or not

1137
01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:21,270
they could have a very limited,
completely verifiable,

1138
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:25,830
extraordinarily constrained
programme, where they might have

1139
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:29,490
some medical research or other
things they could do. But there

1140
01:10:29,490 --> 01:10:33,120
is no inherent right to enrich.
And everywhere in this

1141
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,620
particular agreement, it states
that they could only do that by

1142
01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:41,610
mutual agreement, and that
nothing is agreed on until

1143
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,110
everything is agreed on.

1144
01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:48,600
Okay. And so here, I'm like,
alright, what is this really

1145
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,580
about him started getting
interested, then he does a

1146
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:54,690
little video, which was
published on video.state.gov,

1147
01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,990
which was meant for Congress,
but it was published for the

1148
01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:03,630
public. And he's talking to the
can the Congress, men, women and

1149
01:11:03,630 --> 01:11:07,920
Senators, as if they're morons,
by the way, so Well, maybe

1150
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,700
rightly so. And here is his
explicit explanation of

1151
01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:14,010
enrichment. And as a couple of
things, he said in here, that

1152
01:11:14,010 --> 01:11:15,450
maybe go down the rabbit hole

1153
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,220
on enrichment, we are
eliminating Iran's stockpile of

1154
01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:23,640
already enriched 20% enriched
uranium,

1155
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:27,360
by the way, the fact that he's
saying Iran and not Iran tells

1156
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,480
us there's no agenda producers
and listeners, he's not really

1157
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:34,710
in on the deal. Because we know
right, people who are really in

1158
01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:37,710
with what's going on, who are
really doing the business, they

1159
01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:39,810
say Iran, we are,

1160
01:11:40,410 --> 01:11:43,770
it's a code, it's code. They're
a centrifuge programme, where it

1161
01:11:43,770 --> 01:11:44,400
is today,

1162
01:11:44,430 --> 01:11:47,220
hold on, listen to what listen
to the words he's using here.

1163
01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:52,020
Uranium, we are holding their
centrifuge programme, we are

1164
01:11:52,020 --> 01:11:56,460
holding their centrifuge
programme where it is today. And

1165
01:11:56,460 --> 01:12:01,050
we are stopping them from using
their most advanced centrifuges.

1166
01:12:01,260 --> 01:12:05,910
These are centrifuges that can
separate uranium very quickly

1167
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:10,140
and do the wrench Richmond very
fast. So they're very risky. And

1168
01:12:10,140 --> 01:12:13,680
that's why we keep them away
from that process. For now,

1169
01:12:13,710 --> 01:12:16,140
we keep them away from that
process. For now,

1170
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:19,470
on plutonium, we're putting on
hold

1171
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:23,820
the most we're putting on hold,
we're putting on hold meaningful

1172
01:12:23,820 --> 01:12:28,170
parts of their reactor that's
currently under construction, in

1173
01:12:28,170 --> 01:12:33,510
a place called Iraq, Iran. Now
this is their most likely source

1174
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:37,650
of plutonium. And that's why
it's something we are absolutely

1175
01:12:37,650 --> 01:12:38,190
determined.

1176
01:12:39,870 --> 01:12:43,770
So he's talking like he's a
supplier of parts, which, in

1177
01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:49,260
fact, is exactly what's
happening. This is about So this

1178
01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:53,010
agreement, which we don't really
have, truly the written

1179
01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:55,320
agreement, nothing has really
been set in stone, there's been

1180
01:12:55,320 --> 01:13:00,330
all kinds of back and forth, the
the news media, then their

1181
01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:04,980
typical political oscillation,
are showing you this is about

1182
01:13:04,980 --> 01:13:07,950
stopping them from getting a
nuclear weapon or creating a

1183
01:13:07,950 --> 01:13:10,800
bomb or killing everybody in the
Middle East, which, of course,

1184
01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:16,590
is ludicrous. You know, that to
be frightened into something

1185
01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:21,120
that they believe this bullcrap,
I went, and I found the

1186
01:13:21,150 --> 01:13:27,240
sanctions as they stand against
Iran, and held that against what

1187
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,290
was published on whitehouse.gov
as to what the our end of the

1188
01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:34,050
bargain is going to be. And
here's, here's the way you have

1189
01:13:34,050 --> 01:13:36,360
to look at this. And this will
be a conversation for you around

1190
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,420
your Thanksgiving Day table.
When everyone says, Boy, we're

1191
01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:44,430
so happy that President Barack
Obama and John F. Kerry are

1192
01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:48,360
saving us from the evil
Iranians. This is not what

1193
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,760
that's about. This is about
determining who gets to do

1194
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,260
business with Iran and in Iran,
because this isn't the sanctions

1195
01:13:55,260 --> 01:14:00,630
are 80 pages. And if you look at
what they're saying in their so

1196
01:14:00,630 --> 01:14:06,660
called Deal Memo, John, this is
only about who gets to buy

1197
01:14:06,660 --> 01:14:11,820
petroleum and petroleum products
from Iran. It's it the sanctions

1198
01:14:11,820 --> 01:14:14,280
are not against Iran, the
sanctions against other

1199
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:21,660
countries. So to give an
example, we have the companies

1200
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,860
and countries that are allowed
to buy from Iran that we have

1201
01:14:25,860 --> 01:14:30,930
somehow determined are allowed
to buy from Iran exclude a whole

1202
01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:35,100
bunch of other countries is it's
really quite funny when you see

1203
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:39,090
who is and who and who isn't
allowed to buy. So we have since

1204
01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:41,940
1998, by the way these sanctions
been going on for a long time

1205
01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:45,630
because it is a regulation of a
market. This is not has nothing

1206
01:14:45,630 --> 01:14:50,610
to do with terrorism or nuclear
warfare since 1998. The

1207
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:55,440
companies that are that have a
waiver for sanctions are total

1208
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:59,940
of France, Gazprom from Russia
and PETRONAS from Malaysia.

1209
01:15:02,430 --> 01:15:08,130
exempted our stock oil from
Norway Eni, from Italy Royal

1210
01:15:08,130 --> 01:15:12,000
Dutch Shell and Britain in the
Netherlands. sanctioned however

1211
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:17,010
Bella rousse Bella rosneath No
you can't buy oil sanction

1212
01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:19,980
petrochemical commercial company
international Bailiwick of

1213
01:15:19,980 --> 01:15:24,630
Jersey and Iran Royster group
from the United Arab Emirates

1214
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:29,280
tanker Pacific from Singapore,
all the Monaco, Venezuela, all

1215
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,670
these people, no, you can't buy
the oil. This is and by the way,

1216
01:15:32,670 --> 01:15:36,960
is not oil that goes into your
truck, or your car. These are

1217
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,590
petrochemical products that are
necessary for life as we know it

1218
01:15:40,590 --> 01:15:45,360
today. It's the light sweet
crude that is really necessary

1219
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,310
for products at correct John.

1220
01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:53,520
Well, sweet, crude, or heavy
crude or any of them are goes

1221
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,100
through a refinery and then they
can be made into anything from

1222
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,860
gasoline to kerosene to jet fuel
to plastic.

1223
01:15:59,070 --> 01:16:02,010
Right. But we've already
determined that a lot of this is

1224
01:16:02,010 --> 01:16:05,760
not necessarily about stuff that
is going into your car. It is

1225
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,660
the derivative petroleum
products that Iran has in

1226
01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:11,220
abundance that we really need.

1227
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:16,890
That that really, that would be
most like crude tends to be end

1228
01:16:16,890 --> 01:16:24,360
up as diesel or gasoline. Hmm. I
don't think it changes your

1229
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,470
thesis. Okay.

1230
01:16:25,860 --> 01:16:32,790
There's a a change in some of
the rules. Iran may not accept

1231
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:38,880
gold for payment for their oil
and petroleum products. This is

1232
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:40,830
stipulated so no, that's

1233
01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:43,980
again. Yeah. But that's actually
a good catch. Because, you know,

1234
01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:47,460
there's there's all of this
going to your petro dollar

1235
01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:51,030
and we need to keep them on the
dollar. Of course. Yeah. And,

1236
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,580
and we the United States, we are
regulating the money. Because we

1237
01:16:56,580 --> 01:17:01,020
have it all locked up. You see.
So if if a company is going to

1238
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:04,080
buy some oil or petroleum
products from Iran, it runs

1239
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:09,750
through us. It is a great for
some reason, someone decided,

1240
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:13,410
hey, we need to open that up a
little bit. But the United

1241
01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:17,670
States, we I guess somehow
through John Kerry are

1242
01:17:17,670 --> 01:17:22,320
determining who gets to buy this
and who doesn't get to buy this.

1243
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,530
And the sanction. This is kind
of, I don't know if you saw,

1244
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,140
like they were all
congratulating and hugging each

1245
01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:31,320
other. And you had Carrie
hugging that no neck, no chin

1246
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,310
monster, the High
Representative, Baroness Ashton.

1247
01:17:36,180 --> 01:17:38,790
They're all high five. And yeah,
the qualifications

1248
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:41,430
does she have to bear in that
job?

1249
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,310
Well, she's the reason why she
was there. Of course, she's

1250
01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:46,530
these are all people who are
part of the Security Council.

1251
01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:51,360
It's the P five plus one, which
is the Big Five and oh, yeah,

1252
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,240
we'll add the crowds in there,
get my nation Deutschland is the

1253
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,710
plus one or the EU three plus
three, well, these code things.

1254
01:17:59,070 --> 01:18:01,770
But this is all about who gets
the who gets the oil, who gets

1255
01:18:01,860 --> 01:18:05,280
it. The sanctions are not
against Iran, the sanctions are

1256
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,860
against the all the other
countries and we're determining

1257
01:18:07,860 --> 01:18:12,090
who gets to have some of it. But
we're being misled into

1258
01:18:12,090 --> 01:18:15,390
believing this is like some
deal. And everybody on

1259
01:18:15,390 --> 01:18:18,210
television, all the talking
heads are talking about bomb

1260
01:18:18,210 --> 01:18:24,240
this bomb, that it's bullshit.
We know from Iranians that in

1261
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,260
Iran, people are like, they're
on the same page, the Americans

1262
01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:30,510
and the Iranians. It's a big
show.

1263
01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:34,800
But have we did the VA
deconstructed this enough? Or

1264
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,950
have you to determine what is
Israel's role in all this?

1265
01:18:37,950 --> 01:18:40,290
Because they seem to be the most
bent out of shape about?

1266
01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:42,240
Well, I think they're bent out
of shape, because they've got

1267
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,020
the Leviathan field, which is
gas and oil. And you know, and

1268
01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:48,870
they need to sell it, they need
to start up the they need to

1269
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:52,650
start sales. That's the only
thing I can I can see, you know,

1270
01:18:52,650 --> 01:18:56,340
this is the discovery of the
leviathan field really turned

1271
01:18:56,340 --> 01:18:59,670
Israel from a net importer to an
exporter. And they need to get

1272
01:18:59,670 --> 01:19:04,530
going particularly to countries
that they have relatively close

1273
01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:06,570
access to outside the
Mediterranean, which, you know,

1274
01:19:06,570 --> 01:19:09,420
through Cyprus and Greece and or
even Italy would be

1275
01:19:10,169 --> 01:19:14,579
over this a million times. But I
just it just seems to be not

1276
01:19:14,579 --> 01:19:17,519
being convinced of the this
being the sole purpose of their

1277
01:19:17,549 --> 01:19:21,929
their objections and their sabre
rattling and when do we did have

1278
01:19:21,929 --> 01:19:24,989
you figured out why these
countries have been kind of

1279
01:19:25,019 --> 01:19:32,219
circumscribed from the ability
to trade with Iran? What What

1280
01:19:32,219 --> 01:19:36,059
the I'm sorry, one example of
one country why we hate them?

1281
01:19:36,570 --> 01:19:39,990
Well, I'm sorry, it's funny you
say that because I didn't say I

1282
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:44,760
didn't mention any countries I
mentioned companies. And these

1283
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:50,160
companies are in particular
countries issues ownership. You

1284
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,160
know, we don't own anything, any
of this Venezuela crap. So no,

1285
01:19:53,190 --> 01:20:02,400
not in denied. That's, that's it
makes its total Oh, it's BP, its

1286
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,000
shell. It's you know, it's the
Seven Sisters or whatever

1287
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,120
they're called. It's those guys.
We get to those they get to

1288
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,610
participate. Everybody else eff
off. It's our we control it. The

1289
01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:18,270
United States runs Iran. That's,
that is that's just what I'm

1290
01:20:18,270 --> 01:20:21,540
gonna have to state. We're
running it. We own it, we

1291
01:20:21,540 --> 01:20:25,050
determine who gets what this
deal is not about nuclear

1292
01:20:25,050 --> 01:20:28,800
weapons is deals about who gets
to have some, and who was Barack

1293
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,720
Obama doling it out to today? On
March 20 2012, the Secretary of

1294
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,730
State announced the first group
of 11 countries that have

1295
01:20:35,730 --> 01:20:38,850
achieved an exemption for
significantly reducing oil

1296
01:20:38,850 --> 01:20:42,150
purchases. So here are the
countries that reduce Belgium

1297
01:20:42,150 --> 01:20:44,550
Czech Republic France, Germany,
Greece, Italy, Japan, the

1298
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:47,640
Netherlands, Poland, Spain,
Britain, the exemptions for

1299
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,450
these 11 countries were all
renewed. Took me who's renewing

1300
01:20:51,450 --> 01:20:57,360
it we're the boss of this we say
you can't take from Iran and

1301
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,600
then people do it. Now we say
oh, you can have a little more

1302
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,950
it's it's like 4 billion in
annual sales which is nothing

1303
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,490
but you know, so maybe it's
being misused to to change the

1304
01:21:11,490 --> 01:21:16,590
new cycle since it is a
relatively small a small deal

1305
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,180
but the funny thing is you think
that it's a deal with Iran but

1306
01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:23,910
it's not that's why everyone's
like hug and carry all Thank

1307
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:28,320
you. Well, thank you I can have
more oil now. Thank you so much.

1308
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,640
I appreciate that's what it is.
It's crazy. eight holes we rock.

1309
01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:37,860
We really really do. And when
Hillary Clinton gets in and

1310
01:21:37,860 --> 01:21:38,640
she's pregnant Yeah,

1311
01:21:38,699 --> 01:21:42,569
I should say she'll she'll up
the ante on all this stuff. Oh

1312
01:21:42,569 --> 01:21:45,629
yeah, well she she laid the
ground she's actually want to be

1313
01:21:45,659 --> 01:21:50,459
be called the Queen Empress is
gonna change your name you watch

1314
01:21:50,489 --> 01:21:52,829
it's gonna be like Ming the
merciless

1315
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,950
she well, she deserves it. As
you know I'm I'm a big fan I

1316
01:21:58,950 --> 01:22:07,440
think we should it's important
people understand that that we

1317
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,470
have to make it worse before it
gets better. So we got to get

1318
01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:15,630
her in. Anyway the the on hold
thing. There's a lot of GE parts

1319
01:22:15,630 --> 01:22:20,250
that they need for for their
reactors for the centrifuges and

1320
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:25,230
GE you know, gets to sell some
but not all so it's all it's all

1321
01:22:25,230 --> 01:22:29,670
controlled. We've been
controlling parts for their

1322
01:22:30,330 --> 01:22:37,590
aircraft for their O's see we
even control the the iAds parts

1323
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:41,310
for their air buses which
apparently they have a few we

1324
01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:42,930
control it all this document.

1325
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,010
Maybe Netanyahu is just clueless
Do you think that's possible

1326
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:53,190
now now? No. It could be he's
just just wants it maybe he just

1327
01:22:53,190 --> 01:22:54,810
wants a reality show

1328
01:22:57,690 --> 01:23:02,070
I'm not completely buying his
position is whatever well we

1329
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:07,290
had the well it could also be
John let's look at it from a

1330
01:23:07,290 --> 01:23:09,540
different perspective and
remember he held up the the

1331
01:23:09,540 --> 01:23:13,110
drawing of the wily coyote bomb
at the United Nations with a

1332
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:17,520
little fuse in it with the arrow
so maybe he's just the layup man

1333
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:22,140
maybe he's just setting it up
for for us to hammer it in to

1334
01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:22,680
keep people

1335
01:23:23,310 --> 01:23:27,000
good be the setup guy right to
the possibilities front man just

1336
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:27,180
keep

1337
01:23:27,180 --> 01:23:29,880
everybody focused on the bomb
the bomb the bomb meanwhile,

1338
01:23:30,150 --> 01:23:34,170
don't look at other exporters to
Iran. Let's see I have the list

1339
01:23:34,170 --> 01:23:40,320
here. It's in the sanctions.
Here are the companies who have

1340
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:47,880
been allowed to export to Iran
Mars company Kraft Foods,

1341
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:55,290
Wrigley's McCormick and CO so
they've got candy bars, chewing

1342
01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:57,930
gum, mac and cheese and some
spices.

1343
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,930
And they have plenty of spices
in I think the McCormick deal is

1344
01:24:03,930 --> 01:24:06,000
to get McCormick in so they get
spices out

1345
01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:08,730
well so now what's happened yes
well now what's happening is you

1346
01:24:08,730 --> 01:24:10,710
seeing because the sanctions
were lifted you're seeing

1347
01:24:10,710 --> 01:24:13,080
companies everywhere freaking
out because they don't want to

1348
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:19,620
get in because it's going to be
a Libya like Bonanza without the

1349
01:24:19,710 --> 01:24:23,310
bomb dropping down towards about
the war zone. Yeah, so here's

1350
01:24:23,310 --> 01:24:27,120
the Oh f AC had approved exports
to Iran have condiments such as

1351
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:35,070
ice cream sprinkles. Hey, hey,
Muhammad Mustafa. You Persian.

1352
01:24:35,670 --> 01:24:41,190
How's your sprinkles? Enjoy the
American sprinkles, hot sauces,

1353
01:24:41,310 --> 01:24:46,560
bodybuilding supplements all all
being exported to Iran. You

1354
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,900
wouldn't think it though the way
you hear everyone talking like

1355
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:51,780
they're the most of the crazy
crazy you're gonna kill us blow

1356
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:57,270
us up. So that was an eye opener
for me that just like this, this

1357
01:24:57,270 --> 01:25:01,080
deal we're seeing it all upside
down. Is the Deal is not about a

1358
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:06,090
bomb. It's about who gets to
profit from Iran. And I am

1359
01:25:06,180 --> 01:25:09,000
looking at the people who are
jumping up and down looking at

1360
01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:12,570
Baroness Ashton. I'm thinking
this might have been a little

1361
01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:18,240
bit of a fig leaf towards the EU
for our tea tip negotiations.

1362
01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:25,260
Could be, but it's not repeat
not about terrorism and some

1363
01:25:25,770 --> 01:25:29,760
some bomb stuffs about
terrorism. I mean, the public.

1364
01:25:30,540 --> 01:25:32,790
You know, it's just like you
think they let the American

1365
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:35,460
people in on some of this, this
action?

1366
01:25:35,490 --> 01:25:38,310
Can you imagine how great we
would be if people actually

1367
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:41,790
understood this? We'd be we'd be
all filled with I think Congress

1368
01:25:41,790 --> 01:25:45,270
would get something done. People
be like, hell yeah, you wouldn't

1369
01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:47,730
have to spend all the time
bullcrapping the public in this

1370
01:25:47,730 --> 01:25:53,520
or scaring them? Yeah. You're
gonna get killed? Yeah, exactly.

1371
01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:57,780
They wouldn't make that making
it worse by bringing in this

1372
01:25:57,780 --> 01:26:02,610
common core and some of these
other initiatives that just are

1373
01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:05,430
obviously intended to dumb down
the public.

1374
01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:10,410
It's funny, you know, for
today's show, I wanted to do

1375
01:26:10,410 --> 01:26:18,120
something upbeat. I know. It
kind of wrecks our model. But

1376
01:26:18,150 --> 01:26:21,360
specifically regarding regarding
common core, I wanted to bring

1377
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:28,170
in a voice from the grave.
Someone who I have always held

1378
01:26:28,170 --> 01:26:34,350
in high regard. And it's from an
interview that from 1995, a two

1379
01:26:34,350 --> 01:26:38,910
years before he returned to
Apple to make it legendary

1380
01:26:38,910 --> 01:26:45,210
again, a Steve Jobs talking
about education. And I have

1381
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,180
three quick little clips of
taken on this is a pretty well

1382
01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:51,210
known interview, I think it was
I'm sure you've seen this John,

1383
01:26:51,210 --> 01:26:54,600
This interview was like PC
magazine or something 1995 They

1384
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,890
were trying to codify people
from the beginning of Silicon

1385
01:26:58,890 --> 01:27:00,600
Valley. Do you know this
interview of jobs?

1386
01:27:01,530 --> 01:27:03,450
If I hear it, I might have heard
it before.

1387
01:27:04,650 --> 01:27:08,520
And as it relates to common
core, it's very interesting to

1388
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,750
hear him specifically, say some
things about education, and

1389
01:27:12,750 --> 01:27:17,130
really how the educators today
and the Governors Association

1390
01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:20,160
and the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation, all these people who

1391
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,550
were all in on Common Core, and
the testing and the standards

1392
01:27:23,550 --> 01:27:29,550
and turn teachers into test
takers and data analyzers are

1393
01:27:30,570 --> 01:27:36,120
wrong. Here's how here's what
got Steve Jobs interested in

1394
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:39,780
what he's doing today. And
through education in fourth

1395
01:27:39,780 --> 01:27:42,330
grade, I encountered one of the
other saints in my life, which

1396
01:27:42,330 --> 01:27:46,350
was I, they discovered they were
going to put me in the sky, Rick

1397
01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:48,300
Tarantino and have the same
fourth grade class. And the

1398
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:51,450
principal said at the last
minute, no, no bad idea,

1399
01:27:51,450 --> 01:27:55,800
separate them. So this teacher,
Mrs. Hill said, I'll take one of

1400
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,380
them. And she taught the
advanced fourth grade class. And

1401
01:27:58,380 --> 01:28:02,550
thank God, I was the random one
that got got put in her class.

1402
01:28:03,450 --> 01:28:08,460
And she watched me for about two
weeks. And she then approached

1403
01:28:08,460 --> 01:28:12,540
me, she said, Steven, I'll tell
you what I am. I'll make your

1404
01:28:12,540 --> 01:28:18,180
deal. I have this math workbook.
And if you take it home, and

1405
01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:21,960
finish it on your own, without
any help, and you bring it back

1406
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:27,810
to me, if you get it 80%, right,
I will give you $5. And one of

1407
01:28:27,810 --> 01:28:30,540
these really big sucker, she
bought it, she held it out in

1408
01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:33,090
front of me all these giant
things. And I looked at her

1409
01:28:33,090 --> 01:28:36,990
like, are you crazy lady?
Nobody's ever done this before.

1410
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:41,520
And of course, I did it. And she
basically bribed me back into

1411
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:47,010
learning, with with with candy
and money and, and what was

1412
01:28:47,010 --> 01:28:49,620
really remarkable was that, you
know, before very long, I had

1413
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:54,060
such a respect for her that I
sort of reignited my desire to

1414
01:28:54,060 --> 01:28:59,250
learn. And she was remarkable
she she got me kits for making

1415
01:28:59,250 --> 01:29:02,940
cameras, you know, I ground my
own lens and made a camera and

1416
01:29:02,940 --> 01:29:05,970
it was it was really quite
wonderful.

1417
01:29:06,270 --> 01:29:10,020
Real education there. And, and I
like it because as you know, I

1418
01:29:10,020 --> 01:29:14,820
am a big fan of bribing kids
with hookers and blow it works.

1419
01:29:15,900 --> 01:29:18,720
Now that this interviewer goes
into this next bit and says, you

1420
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,410
know, well, you're You're famous
for putting computers in the K

1421
01:29:22,410 --> 01:29:26,040
12. Computers, of course, are
going to solve education, which

1422
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:31,590
is where we are at right now,
today. Tomorrow is not 20 to 20

1423
01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:37,710
years later. And interesting.
That is Bill Gates, the arch

1424
01:29:37,710 --> 01:29:42,030
nemesis of apple and of Steve
Jobs to a certain extent, who is

1425
01:29:42,030 --> 01:29:46,890
now doing this, basically saying
that big data and computers

1426
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:51,420
that's going to fix education,
Steve Jobs, not so on board.

1427
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:53,850
The unions are the worst thing
that ever happened education.

1428
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,880
Because it's not a meritocracy.
It turns into a bureaucracy

1429
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,850
which Here's exactly what's
happened. And teachers can't

1430
01:30:02,850 --> 01:30:06,990
teach and administrators run the
place and nobody can be fired.

1431
01:30:07,020 --> 01:30:11,550
It's terrible. Well, some people
say that the this new technology

1432
01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:18,810
may be a networking world, if
you will, maybe a way to bypass

1433
01:30:18,870 --> 01:30:21,600
that are you opt in? I
absolutely don't believe that.

1434
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,520
And as you pointed out, I've
probably helped put more

1435
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,790
computers in more schools than
anybody else in the world. And

1436
01:30:27,180 --> 01:30:30,990
up until this point in time, and
I'm absolutely convinced that

1437
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:35,280
that is by no means the most
important thing. The most

1438
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,150
important thing is another
person, another person that

1439
01:30:39,150 --> 01:30:42,660
incites your curiosity that
guides your curiosity, that

1440
01:30:42,660 --> 01:30:46,320
feeds your curiosity. And
machines cannot do that in the

1441
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:47,430
same way people can't

1442
01:30:47,460 --> 01:30:51,120
this No wonder they hated each
other. He's so on the opposite

1443
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,460
side of this. And that, by the
way, if you look at all the

1444
01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:55,650
money that's going around in
Common Core was enough to kill

1445
01:30:55,650 --> 01:30:59,340
them just for that attitude. And
I'm thinking more and more that

1446
01:31:00,390 --> 01:31:03,210
there was no reason to help them
out. Let's put it that way.

1447
01:31:03,660 --> 01:31:07,440
final bit in our happy, upbeat
little Steve Jobs clip with on

1448
01:31:08,430 --> 01:31:12,300
his his ideas about how schools
should be run, right now.

1449
01:31:13,470 --> 01:31:18,090
If you ask who are the customers
of education, the customers of

1450
01:31:18,090 --> 01:31:21,780
education are the society at
large employers that hire

1451
01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:24,990
people, right, things like that.
But ultimately, I think the

1452
01:31:24,990 --> 01:31:28,050
customers are the parents, not
even the students. But the

1453
01:31:28,050 --> 01:31:32,070
parents. The problem that we
have in this country is that the

1454
01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:36,180
customers went away. A customer
stopped paying attention to

1455
01:31:36,180 --> 01:31:39,990
their schools for the most part,
and gave their kids to the Well

1456
01:31:39,990 --> 01:31:42,900
what happened was is that
mothers started working, and

1457
01:31:42,900 --> 01:31:45,420
they didn't have time to spend
at PTA meetings and watching

1458
01:31:45,420 --> 01:31:49,440
their kids school. Schools
became much more

1459
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:55,290
institutionalised. And parents
spent less and less and less

1460
01:31:55,290 --> 01:32:00,240
time involved in their kids
education. And what happens when

1461
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:05,460
a customer goes away, and a
monopoly gets control, which is

1462
01:32:05,460 --> 01:32:09,600
what's happened in our country,
is that the service level almost

1463
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,810
always goes down. I remember
seeing a bumper sticker when the

1464
01:32:12,810 --> 01:32:16,380
telephone company was all 180
and T the Bell System. I

1465
01:32:16,380 --> 01:32:20,580
remember seeing a bumper sticker
with the bell logo on it. And it

1466
01:32:20,580 --> 01:32:25,200
said we don't care. We don't
have to know and that's what a

1467
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:26,490
monopoly is. Yeah,

1468
01:32:27,090 --> 01:32:31,860
there you go. Yeah, I'm not
buying any of it. Not buying and

1469
01:32:31,860 --> 01:32:35,280
grinding his own lenses in
fourth grade or any of that crap

1470
01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:39,750
Don't be me a little romantic
John, what is this

1471
01:32:39,810 --> 01:32:42,900
it customers the women started
working and it's gone to hell

1472
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,940
yes, the self esteem movement
some of this other stuff that

1473
01:32:47,940 --> 01:32:51,690
those same women were promoting?
I think he's I think the guy is

1474
01:32:51,690 --> 01:32:55,890
an uneducated character. Who is
just like gates is he's you

1475
01:32:55,890 --> 01:32:58,230
know, he's never Gates has never
gone through college and doesn't

1476
01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:00,840
know what the process is or what
what do you get out of it? Or

1477
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,020
what you don't get out of it? Or
what was the bogusness is oh, I

1478
01:33:04,020 --> 01:33:07,080
can dream he has now but he's a
big expert. So I feel the same

1479
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,530
way about jobs. I'm not buying
any of it. It was it was a good

1480
01:33:10,530 --> 01:33:13,980
series a little quick. Currently
you seem to get

1481
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,880
high. I'm a big fan. I've always
been a fan. Little comments.

1482
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:22,290
Let's go. Just do three quick
headlines on Common Core then

1483
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:23,340
then use you okay,

1484
01:33:23,340 --> 01:33:25,260
yes, finish the common core
thing because I want to go to

1485
01:33:25,260 --> 01:33:27,810
France where we have no
customers ourselves.

1486
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:33,180
Hold on. Massachusetts, has
voted to delay implementation of

1487
01:33:33,180 --> 01:33:38,550
Common Core. Good Anya, New York
School Principals have written a

1488
01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:41,430
letter which I've put the letter
in the way stop,

1489
01:33:41,490 --> 01:33:46,710
stop. Massachusetts, happens to
have one of the best state run

1490
01:33:46,710 --> 01:33:51,180
educational organisations. And
they know this is bullcrap. In

1491
01:33:51,180 --> 01:33:53,640
fact, if we modelled everything
after what Massachusetts is

1492
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,850
doing, we'd be much better off
than doing this crazy thing that

1493
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,580
you know, the Bill Gates
Foundation has dreamed up. Well,

1494
01:33:59,610 --> 01:34:02,460
that's the heavy hitters on the
board of education in

1495
01:34:02,460 --> 01:34:06,090
Massachusetts are saying this,
we got to stop this or slow it

1496
01:34:06,090 --> 01:34:09,750
down or whatever, and they do
not want to implement so there's

1497
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:12,510
hope there New York School
Principals have written a letter

1498
01:34:12,510 --> 01:34:16,860
of concern about Common Core
testing. Not it's, I put it in

1499
01:34:16,860 --> 01:34:18,990
the shownotes you can read it
yourself, but actually there

1500
01:34:19,020 --> 01:34:22,320
it's not just concerned that
kind of like, Yo, dude, we gotta

1501
01:34:22,350 --> 01:34:26,760
we can't do this crap. And there
was an interesting article about

1502
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:32,160
code.org which is the
educational outfit backed by

1503
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:39,000
Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey
and other douchebags apparently,

1504
01:34:40,140 --> 01:34:45,690
they when you sign up for
code.org, the I think it was

1505
01:34:45,690 --> 01:34:50,040
Valleywag if I can find this
here, who discovered that they

1506
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:55,860
take all of your kids data and
use it for other purposes. So

1507
01:34:55,890 --> 01:35:00,240
you know this education thing.
Ever since it's been in To

1508
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:02,430
analyse then we have a
Department of Education at the

1509
01:35:02,430 --> 01:35:05,340
federal level. It's a big
bonanza. It's a big big

1510
01:35:05,340 --> 01:35:08,490
moneymaker. And while you still
can, the no agenda show

1511
01:35:08,490 --> 01:35:09,720
recommends you homeschool.

1512
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,400
Yeah, we should try to outline
most states.

1513
01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:20,100
No, of course, we can't have
that. Is it John? Is it John

1514
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:26,880
Taylor? What's his name? John
Taylor. I want to say Gotti. Let

1515
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,770
me see if that's the guy's name
of John Taylor. I think it's

1516
01:35:28,770 --> 01:35:35,850
John Taylor Gotti geo TTY Gatto,
John Taylor Gatto. It's very

1517
01:35:35,850 --> 01:35:38,850
interesting guy, you can Google
around and look at some videos,

1518
01:35:38,850 --> 01:35:42,420
but he's, for most of his life,
he's been writing about the

1519
01:35:42,420 --> 01:35:45,720
history of how schools came to
be and if you follow his logic,

1520
01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:52,290
they've truly are designed to be
slave training institutions. If

1521
01:35:52,290 --> 01:35:57,180
you look at where the his
history of, of where shul, and

1522
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,080
that of course it comes from
Germanic Schuler, where that

1523
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:05,730
comes from, and, um, that kind
of like a lot of his theories, I

1524
01:36:05,730 --> 01:36:10,170
think it has been set up that
way, you yourself know that. The

1525
01:36:10,170 --> 01:36:15,420
education system is set up to
create dumb slaves. You have

1526
01:36:15,450 --> 01:36:16,170
firsthand Yeah,

1527
01:36:16,170 --> 01:36:19,680
in fact, I've always said that
the worst writers, if they tried

1528
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,380
to get away from the newspaper
business, which is dead by the

1529
01:36:22,380 --> 01:36:27,510
way, journalism school is
designed to create a essentially

1530
01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:33,270
drones Xerox machines that could
go in and follow a certain style

1531
01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:37,290
of writing, which was voiceless,
neutral. And they could work at

1532
01:36:37,290 --> 01:36:39,810
any newspaper, because they were
all the same type of person.

1533
01:36:39,810 --> 01:36:42,840
They were cogs in the wheel. And
if many of them they always

1534
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,300
think that Well, I can go off
and do it. I'll do some on my

1535
01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:48,000
own. They never can because it's
been drummed out, their ability

1536
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:53,520
to do distinctive singular Works
has been drummed out of almost

1537
01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:55,650
all of them. There's a few that
thing manage.

1538
01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:59,550
And if you look at the common
core stuff, it seems like your

1539
01:36:59,670 --> 01:37:03,720
people are being kids are being
set up to become when when

1540
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,830
someone sent in an interesting
note, under the slave training.

1541
01:37:09,210 --> 01:37:13,050
Kids are being trained to hear
antelope Central High School

1542
01:37:13,050 --> 01:37:16,770
train students to handle a call
calls emergency calls, like

1543
01:37:16,770 --> 01:37:19,890
they're at a call centre. Like
their nine. Yeah. Now this is

1544
01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:23,130
the training. This is the
training kids are getting. And

1545
01:37:23,130 --> 01:37:25,620
they actually do it in the
classroom. Raymarine 911. What's

1546
01:37:25,620 --> 01:37:26,340
your emergency?

1547
01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:29,040
Emergency? Yeah, we're training
our kids.

1548
01:37:29,070 --> 01:37:31,830
Okay, try to show Hey, Billy,
let's try this other script.

1549
01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:37,620
Okay. You want fries with that?
You want anything to drink?

1550
01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:41,700
We we have a special on chicken
chicken wings.

1551
01:37:41,730 --> 01:37:45,690
We have a special on that small
pie. And meanwhile, didn't

1552
01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:46,230
President

1553
01:37:46,230 --> 01:37:51,570
Barack Obama promised a whole
bunch of like, educational

1554
01:37:51,570 --> 01:37:55,110
stuff? Did that not happen is or
is this common core? Is that

1555
01:37:55,110 --> 01:37:56,490
what it is? No, no

1556
01:37:56,490 --> 01:37:57,750
common core is what it is.

1557
01:37:58,230 --> 01:38:01,980
producer Andy sent me a clip
from C span which was funny in

1558
01:38:01,980 --> 01:38:04,950
two regards. What are the Obama
administration's second term

1559
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:07,380
priority is going to look like
and education policy? Are they

1560
01:38:07,380 --> 01:38:10,950
going to continue to push in the
direction they pushed early on

1561
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:17,250
with Race to the Top? Or, or are
we going to see more of of what

1562
01:38:17,610 --> 01:38:20,130
seemed to take hold during the
campaign, which was promised

1563
01:38:20,190 --> 01:38:24,270
100,000 more teachers and
smaller class sizes? I'd like to

1564
01:38:24,270 --> 01:38:27,510
get the panellists starting with
Rick maybe to lay out on which

1565
01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:31,980
which Barack Obama will we see
the second term on Asia. They

1566
01:38:31,980 --> 01:38:37,500
know it. They know there's more
than one. Which Barack Obama I

1567
01:38:37,500 --> 01:38:38,250
don't know the

1568
01:38:38,250 --> 01:38:40,740
one who got together it's in the
closet. The guy

1569
01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:50,340
the guy got inaugurated in the
gay one Oh, nice. I think by the

1570
01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:55,170
way that Hollywood did something
wrong or they haven't been on

1571
01:38:55,170 --> 01:38:58,800
their game that like a whole
bunch of messages went out to

1572
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:03,720
Hollywood. Just this past week.
Let's see we had did like this

1573
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,080
whole story about animals that
were hurt and killed the making

1574
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,260
of movies. And you see these
stories? No, I

1575
01:39:10,260 --> 01:39:12,030
didn't I missed this. Yeah,

1576
01:39:12,030 --> 01:39:14,910
let me see. I have a couple of
them. What do you have a Life of

1577
01:39:14,910 --> 01:39:20,610
Pi Tiger damn near drowned. Dog
punched repeatedly in popular

1578
01:39:20,610 --> 01:39:25,140
Disney movie. Spielberg
protected by cover up of the War

1579
01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:29,820
Horse death. Like all this all
this like Hollywood, you suck.

1580
01:39:30,150 --> 01:39:33,600
You're horrible. You did. Of
course the President was out

1581
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:38,370
going out to Hollywood. I have a
feeling and there was a message.

1582
01:39:38,970 --> 01:39:42,810
And it's like, hey, you know you
really you guys really got to

1583
01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:46,260
get on the stick here. And then
of course we had this story.

1584
01:39:46,260 --> 01:39:49,650
Elkin indicated other big
Hollywood players were also

1585
01:39:49,650 --> 01:39:53,820
involved, saying quote, when I
came to Hollywood, I detach

1586
01:39:53,820 --> 01:39:57,000
myself completely from my
physical activities to dedicate

1587
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:01,650
myself to what I really wanted
filmmaking. This is about Aaron

1588
01:40:01,860 --> 01:40:09,000
mill sham the Hollywood producer
who all of a sudden in a in an

1589
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:14,550
Israeli television interview,
comes out and says I was a spy.

1590
01:40:14,820 --> 01:40:20,520
I was a spy I was a Mossad spy.
And and I'm thinking he did this

1591
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:25,590
to preempt whatever was coming.
That would be a good idea. And,

1592
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,280
and this is not news, by the
way. And every everybody is

1593
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,700
known this guy was an arms
dealer, you know, since 2000.

1594
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:35,070
There were are fun articles
about this is nothing new

1595
01:40:35,070 --> 01:40:37,980
whatsoever. But all of a sudden,
I guess he didn't want to be

1596
01:40:37,980 --> 01:40:41,820
shamed, or I think something was
going on, but sometimes it gets

1597
01:40:41,820 --> 01:40:46,230
mixed up. The 68 Year Old Milton
owns new Regency films and has

1598
01:40:46,230 --> 01:40:50,340
produced more than 120 movies
working closely with directors

1599
01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:53,910
such as Martin Scorsese and
Oliver Stone. He forged an

1600
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:57,390
especially close relationship
with actor Robert De Niro, who

1601
01:40:57,390 --> 01:41:00,510
was also featured in the Israeli
television programme.

1602
01:41:00,750 --> 01:41:03,990
I did ask him once we spoke
about something and he told me

1603
01:41:06,030 --> 01:41:09,750
that he was in his rally and
that he's and that he of course

1604
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:12,360
would do these things for his
country. Or you want to come to

1605
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,850
Hollywood act like a big shot
without actually doing anything.

1606
01:41:16,350 --> 01:41:19,410
In a story that seems
reminiscent to last year's Oscar

1607
01:41:19,410 --> 01:41:23,430
winning true to life film Argo
that depicted the CIA Hollywood

1608
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:27,450
collaboration to rescue us
diplomat stuck in Iran. It's a

1609
01:41:27,450 --> 01:41:31,560
safe bet Hollywood execs will be
fighting to bring this story to

1610
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,980
the big screen to Yeah, Mo Of
course there's always that angle

1611
01:41:34,980 --> 01:41:40,500
and let's chuckle about this you
moronic news models. Now we

1612
01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:43,620
reached out to Milton today for
comment, Jim but we were told he

1613
01:41:43,620 --> 01:41:46,800
is travelling in Europe and
unavailable you you know I have

1614
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,260
been covering all things
Hollywood for a while Jim and

1615
01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:52,620
not much surprises me that goes
on there these days. But this

1616
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,560
this is a web store. He says
it's too bad. He's

1617
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,100
unavailable when he is available
on the situation room and tell

1618
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:00,360
his story to Wolf Blitzer.

1619
01:42:04,980 --> 01:42:08,700
He's unavailable it's too bad.
He's unavailable. What do you

1620
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:11,160
have to lick his ass because
you'd like the king of

1621
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:18,600
Hollywood? George Jones is a
spy. That's right. They're all

1622
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,430
spies and in service,

1623
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,680
which brings me to Chuck Barris
who How nice. Chuck Barris of

1624
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,160
course who did the gong show.
There was a movie about him and

1625
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:33,750
I think Looney was in it. And
but it was produced by a pretty

1626
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:37,650
show is produced by Clooney, or
is directed Confessions of a

1627
01:42:37,650 --> 01:42:41,790
Dangerous Mind. We're bearish
comes out and says he was an

1628
01:42:41,790 --> 01:42:44,580
assassin for the CIA for all the
years that he was doing that

1629
01:42:44,580 --> 01:42:47,880
show. Oh, never seen this movie.
No, this sounds Oh, you're

1630
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,130
missing one of the most
entertaining films you will ever

1631
01:42:50,130 --> 01:42:50,550
see.

1632
01:42:50,580 --> 01:42:51,450
Oh my goodness.

1633
01:42:51,660 --> 01:42:55,560
You wrote a book about this.
That he was a hitman. And then

1634
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,840
he went on and this guy was you
know, everyone who knew him from

1635
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,140
his show days. And then the
movie was done again. And

1636
01:43:01,140 --> 01:43:04,410
Clooney does all these movies
that are either, you know their

1637
01:43:04,410 --> 01:43:07,020
message movies, as far as I can
tell, he does all of the

1638
01:43:07,020 --> 01:43:11,310
American where he plays an
assassin, Syriana, where he's

1639
01:43:11,310 --> 01:43:14,340
talking about the drones killing
princes all the rest of the sea

1640
01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:18,810
the cast of this movie
Confessions of a see Dick Clark

1641
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,140
played himself. Sam Rockwell
played Chuck Barris Michelle

1642
01:43:22,140 --> 01:43:27,390
Sweeney Drew Barrymore, I do not
see Clooney on this one. He

1643
01:43:27,390 --> 01:43:32,010
directed it. Oh, really? Yes.
No, it says stars George George

1644
01:43:32,010 --> 01:43:34,380
Clooney. Okay, all right.

1645
01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:38,880
Cool. He's in on this. So, okay,
so you have to watch this movie

1646
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,040
and I recommend it to everybody
because it's extremely

1647
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:45,990
entertaining. And it's like it's
either the just a guy who's

1648
01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:51,270
deluded or a guy who actually
was a hitman and I don't know

1649
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:54,750
why what why even confessed any
of this but you know it's like

1650
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:57,810
the Confessions of an economic
hitman as it were, right another

1651
01:43:58,110 --> 01:44:02,190
situation where a guy had to
tell all who backed off on all

1652
01:44:02,190 --> 01:44:05,040
that, by the way you would do if
you had a gun pointed to your

1653
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:05,430
head?

1654
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:10,500
No, no, I'd be like, shoot me
dammit. I have principles.

1655
01:44:10,620 --> 01:44:15,330
He backed off big time. Oh,
yeah, he I think it wasn't that

1656
01:44:15,330 --> 01:44:18,330
I think they let the book slide.
That'd be conventionally the you

1657
01:44:18,330 --> 01:44:20,910
know the book came out and that
was fine. But then he started to

1658
01:44:20,910 --> 01:44:25,530
do volume too right and then he
was on the road doing speeches

1659
01:44:25,650 --> 01:44:27,900
well then then all of a sudden
he stopped everything that's

1660
01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:29,610
because he was getting carried
away

1661
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:35,340
it's the same with the with the
Tim wiener who wrote the legacy

1662
01:44:35,340 --> 01:44:38,580
of ashes CIA book which was you
know, is almost almost like a

1663
01:44:38,580 --> 01:44:42,480
Bible. It got me started in, in
media assassination and

1664
01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:45,630
understanding you know, what,
what the CIA really is about?

1665
01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:49,590
And then as FBI book came out,
it was like all in it's like no,

1666
01:44:49,620 --> 01:44:54,030
like it was sleeping with the
with the dead body of Hoover. It

1667
01:44:54,030 --> 01:44:58,110
was it's disgusting. It's just
lane. totally lame. And I think

1668
01:44:58,110 --> 01:45:01,860
he got called to like I'm not
going to do one of those books

1669
01:45:01,860 --> 01:45:03,930
about the bureau.

1670
01:45:05,009 --> 01:45:06,899
Yeah, we saw the other book. We
didn't like it.

1671
01:45:07,469 --> 01:45:10,649
No, I read it and was horrible.
Really?

1672
01:45:11,129 --> 01:45:13,829
No, I'm talking to that would be
this. The FBI guys calling them

1673
01:45:13,829 --> 01:45:17,939
up? Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, me
parking tickets. Do you want a

1674
01:45:17,939 --> 01:45:20,789
month? You like, do you like the
IRA? It looks like you're

1675
01:45:20,789 --> 01:45:23,249
speeding again, according to the
satellite that we have looking

1676
01:45:23,249 --> 01:45:24,059
at you now.

1677
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,480
The IRS, it'd be very nice.
Yeah.

1678
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:30,690
There's a lot of ways you can
stop. They let them do one

1679
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:34,470
product. And then that's it. I
think you can control it. At

1680
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:37,410
that point. You know, the only
guy that I think is slightly

1681
01:45:38,910 --> 01:45:42,150
still, I think got more to tell
us as the guy who did the bush

1682
01:45:42,150 --> 01:45:44,550
book, which is another book
everyone out there.

1683
01:45:44,820 --> 01:45:48,060
Secret while he has a website.

1684
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:49,950
He's got a great website. Yeah,
he's

1685
01:45:49,950 --> 01:45:52,110
got some good stuff on there. I
like what he's doing. What's the

1686
01:45:52,110 --> 01:45:56,670
name of the website again? What
was his name?

1687
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:58,980
Oh, you can get it by typing in
family

1688
01:45:59,460 --> 01:46:07,650
secrets and may even point right
to that website. Was he again?

1689
01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:12,330
Family of secrets.com? Russ
Baker? Yeah. Yeah. Who is it

1690
01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:16,740
legitimate? High quality high
end journalist. He's not like a

1691
01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:17,970
slouch. Who what?

1692
01:46:17,970 --> 01:46:22,320
why.com that's the that's his
website. Who what? why.com

1693
01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:24,450
Yeah. Family of secrets.com

1694
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:28,320
this is the guy you know, follow
this guy. Not Glenn Greenwald.

1695
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,440
This is the guy who's who's
really doing some good stuff, of

1696
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:34,410
course, doesn't have the
documents that were stolen from

1697
01:46:34,410 --> 01:46:41,730
Snowden. But you know, Uncle Don
has written a book called I

1698
01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:45,180
think it's called shards or
something. Shards shards of my

1699
01:46:45,180 --> 01:46:48,360
mind or Yeah, like, like
fragments, shards not shard?

1700
01:46:48,810 --> 01:46:52,440
Like, although that will
probably get published quicker.

1701
01:46:53,490 --> 01:46:56,160
If I sharted in the CIA,

1702
01:46:57,570 --> 01:47:02,370
he can't get it published. And I
have I have not been allowed to

1703
01:47:02,370 --> 01:47:02,910
read it.

1704
01:47:03,390 --> 01:47:05,760
Why? That's probably why I can't
get it published. Nobody is

1705
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:07,140
allowed to read it. Ya

1706
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:12,150
know, the thing is, the agency
these taking exception, I think,

1707
01:47:12,330 --> 01:47:13,950
or they're blocking it or
whatever.

1708
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,950
Well, obviously, that's what's
going on. Because anyone would

1709
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:19,020
love to publish a book like that
from

1710
01:47:19,020 --> 01:47:20,850
him. I mean, he's, he's famous.

1711
01:47:21,630 --> 01:47:25,380
Well, he could just, you know,
do a giblet wow,

1712
01:47:25,410 --> 01:47:28,200
I got to go to New York. I gotta
go talk to go

1713
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,680
there. Say hey, we can do a
giblet for you know, agenda

1714
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:32,250
press. He'll

1715
01:47:32,250 --> 01:47:36,570
probably be like, Adam, this is
like for my kids retirement. I'm

1716
01:47:36,570 --> 01:47:39,450
not gonna do like no agenda.
giblet press with frickin

1717
01:47:39,450 --> 01:47:41,070
bitcoins Get out of my way.

1718
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:46,320
Right now they're gonna get
nothing. Yeah, that's true.

1719
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:51,960
I need to visit him. And
regardless, we gotta go. We have

1720
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,630
to go. He's 84. Now it's getting
up there. Gotta go.

1721
01:47:54,990 --> 01:47:58,350
Yeah, he's getting there. That
books, somebody should at least

1722
01:47:58,350 --> 01:48:02,190
have a copy of it somewhere
buried. Yeah. Well, you know, I

1723
01:48:02,220 --> 01:48:04,680
wonder what's in there that the
agencies worked about.

1724
01:48:06,210 --> 01:48:10,170
He told me some stuff, which I
can't repeat. Because, you know,

1725
01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:12,600
that would kind of circumvent
the whole idea of the trust

1726
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:19,710
relationship. But I don't know.
I mean, I agree. I would like to

1727
01:48:19,710 --> 01:48:22,500
have at least a copy of it. So I
could, you know, and that's all

1728
01:48:22,500 --> 01:48:27,480
I want. Like, do just give me a
copy for safekeeping. And give

1729
01:48:27,480 --> 01:48:29,640
me the raw, unedited, whatever.

1730
01:48:32,490 --> 01:48:38,460
It's not a bad idea. You should
do that. I'm going to I have got

1731
01:48:38,460 --> 01:48:41,730
go giant report that Adam
Curry's house was detonated by a

1732
01:48:41,730 --> 01:48:45,270
bomb. Apparently racist. Oh,

1733
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:48,360
no, no, no, no, no. Unfortunate
gas leak,

1734
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:51,630
or gas leak. Boom,

1735
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:55,140
boom, levelled the whole
neighbourhood. The MythBusters

1736
01:48:55,140 --> 01:48:57,360
couldn't do it. But for some
reason that happens with

1737
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:58,710
increasing regularity.

1738
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,550
Before we get to the money, part
of the show, let's talk about

1739
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:06,210
France. Now France has got a big
deal going on here as you can

1740
01:49:06,210 --> 01:49:09,630
tell by my clips, and but do
introduce it to people because

1741
01:49:09,630 --> 01:49:12,840
it hasn't been played up at all
here in the United States. Look,

1742
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,890
go to the hookers overview part
one so we'll see what's going on

1743
01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:17,550
in France.

1744
01:49:17,730 --> 01:49:20,910
French daily VPLS. You'll
slapped it on its front page

1745
01:49:20,910 --> 01:49:27,300
this Wednesday. Prostitution,
the world's oldest debate. The

1746
01:49:27,330 --> 01:49:29,610
French Parliament this week
discussing a bill that would

1747
01:49:29,610 --> 01:49:34,230
shift the burden from the sex
worker to the clients are 1500

1748
01:49:34,230 --> 01:49:39,210
Euro fines for soliciting the
services of the same bill would

1749
01:49:39,210 --> 01:49:43,140
overturn legislation passed in
2003 that punished prostitutes

1750
01:49:43,140 --> 01:49:46,710
for curb calling. That's because
of European guidelines. They

1751
01:49:46,710 --> 01:49:49,200
consider prostitutes to be the
victims.

1752
01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:55,230
Before you do anything, I'm a
little upset you didn't prepare

1753
01:49:55,230 --> 01:50:00,120
me for this because you know we
have a jingle for this Oh

1754
01:50:10,620 --> 01:50:15,570
I forgot about Okay. So here's
what the EU thinks this is the

1755
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:20,130
why the EU now this is a woman
who kind of represents the EU, I

1756
01:50:20,130 --> 01:50:23,070
think she's French. And they're
talking about what the way they

1757
01:50:23,070 --> 01:50:25,350
see things. And by the way, this
is implemented by the

1758
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:30,030
socialists, who used to be
always considered pro hooker as

1759
01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:32,520
opposed to the right wing, which
is always considered to be oh,

1760
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,530
you know, we just as it's a sin.

1761
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:38,280
Now, why is this bill being
brought before the French

1762
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,760
Parliament at this particular
time, one of the co sponsors,

1763
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:46,680
socialist Katelyn Patel
explains. To me that

1764
01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:48,390
prostitution, prostitution

1765
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:52,110
in France has changed
enormously. immeasurably. Most

1766
01:50:52,110 --> 01:50:54,990
people working as prostitutes
have been trafficked here by

1767
01:50:54,990 --> 01:50:59,190
mafia organisations in its
modern slavery of people who

1768
01:50:59,190 --> 01:51:02,640
come from Africa, Eastern Europe
and China. So people who come

1769
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:06,420
here to try to live to survive,
you can reasonably say that

1770
01:51:06,420 --> 01:51:09,480
prostitutes should not be seen
as criminals, but as victims,

1771
01:51:09,810 --> 01:51:13,020
and that the client is the one
buying sex is the one fueling

1772
01:51:13,020 --> 01:51:15,210
prostitution. All right, I

1773
01:51:15,210 --> 01:51:17,190
got to stop right here. I got to
take some exception of what's

1774
01:51:17,190 --> 01:51:20,880
going on here. This is this, by
the way, is not just happening

1775
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,400
in France, this conversation has
been started up in the

1776
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:27,840
Netherlands as well. Now the
Netherlands, anyone who is the

1777
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:33,330
40 or over, will will know that
if you say Amsterdam or Holland,

1778
01:51:33,660 --> 01:51:40,110
people go weed and hookers. And
the Netherlands was proud,

1779
01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:44,760
proud, I tell you of its
extremely liberal stance on

1780
01:51:44,970 --> 01:51:51,930
recreational drugs, specifically
in the smoking of a plant and of

1781
01:51:51,930 --> 01:51:56,880
their prostitution sector, which
was out in the open and not

1782
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:03,030
behind closed doors. In fact, in
windows were the prostitutes

1783
01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:08,460
that pay taxes where they have
have free yet mandatory health

1784
01:52:08,550 --> 01:52:12,750
care and checkups. And this was
always seen as a great

1785
01:52:12,750 --> 01:52:17,730
liberation or a proof of how
liberal and open minded and by

1786
01:52:17,730 --> 01:52:22,950
the way, not just female hookers
is all kinds of hookers. And now

1787
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:31,830
I'm just not buying the the
statement that all hookers are

1788
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:37,110
traffic sex slaves, I just don't
buy it. I know lots of

1789
01:52:37,110 --> 01:52:42,240
prostitutes, who like what
they're doing temporarily. And

1790
01:52:42,270 --> 01:52:45,330
just as it's anyone's choice to
have a baby or not to do

1791
01:52:45,330 --> 01:52:48,360
whatever you want you this is
your choice, too. I know it's

1792
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,960
not popular, because it's always
Oh trafficking, sex slavery. I

1793
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:57,360
know. I'm not so convinced that
this is taking place everywhere

1794
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:58,230
in the EU.

1795
01:52:58,830 --> 01:53:03,480
Well on van cat they had a
debate with a feminist they had

1796
01:53:03,480 --> 01:53:06,540
a guy who wrote some manifesto
saying that this is bull crap.

1797
01:53:06,540 --> 01:53:09,810
They had a woman who was
represented hookers on the horn

1798
01:53:09,810 --> 01:53:12,900
in London. Unfortunately, her
sound was crappy. Then they had

1799
01:53:12,900 --> 01:53:17,640
a professor who I have a clip of
who from Sweden because Sweden

1800
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,850
apparently is is made it
illegal. And they made a big

1801
01:53:20,850 --> 01:53:24,510
fuss about it and they showed a
map. And what's interesting is

1802
01:53:24,510 --> 01:53:28,320
that there's just distinct
separation. Sweden, Norway,

1803
01:53:28,350 --> 01:53:31,890
prostitution is really bad Great
Britain, it's on the map. Bad

1804
01:53:31,890 --> 01:53:35,370
bad. And then France is trying
to do this and then Iceland but

1805
01:53:35,370 --> 01:53:38,760
on the other hand, there's
Germany. And then you end up

1806
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,210
with the listen to these numbers
on this clip hookers on welfare.

1807
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:49,260
Okay, there are those countries
like Germany, where since 2002.

1808
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:58,680
Forbidden and punished. And we
can also call up a graph of

1809
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:03,090
countries there you see, Sweden,
Norway, the Scandinavian

1810
01:54:03,090 --> 01:54:06,900
countries, Iceland has also come
through with it with a similar

1811
01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:11,730
bill. And then there are those
countries like Germany, where

1812
01:54:11,730 --> 01:54:17,400
since 2002, the sex trade has
been completely liberalised now,

1813
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,960
that in Germany particular has
been sparking a backlash. It was

1814
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,510
reportedly even included in
coalition talks that have been

1815
01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:30,120
going on between the Sedu and
the SDP, The Economist newspaper

1816
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:34,080
called The in a recent article,
a giant Teutonic brothel,

1817
01:54:34,530 --> 01:54:38,460
writing that the best guess is
that Germany has about 400,000

1818
01:54:38,460 --> 01:54:42,720
prostitutes, catering to 1
million men a day mocking the

1819
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:47,280
spirit of the law. Exactly 44 of
them, including four men have

1820
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,800
registered for welfare benefits.

1821
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:52,740
So it's a great thriving sector.

1822
01:54:53,249 --> 01:54:56,339
In France, where they're
complaining about it is 20,000

1823
01:54:56,339 --> 01:54:59,369
was the estimate 20 to 40,000
prostitutes in the country,

1824
01:54:59,639 --> 01:55:04,469
Germany He's got 400,000 with a
million customers a day. There's

1825
01:55:04,469 --> 01:55:06,989
got to be like a lot of income
flying around here for these

1826
01:55:07,019 --> 01:55:07,439
women,

1827
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:09,960
but they don't it's not just
women. Let's just say it's not

1828
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,900
just women. There's 20% Men male
prostitutes, too.

1829
01:55:12,930 --> 01:55:16,500
Yeah 20% They estimate at least
these guys, the guy that one guy

1830
01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:18,330
was saying, Well, you know, most
of these these figures and

1831
01:55:18,330 --> 01:55:20,340
numbers are bogus and studies
have never really been done

1832
01:55:20,340 --> 01:55:23,010
right. They're always done by
some pressure group that wants

1833
01:55:23,010 --> 01:55:26,100
something. But here's another
little interesting one that just

1834
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:30,690
really got my attention. Play
this Booker's huge Bravo being

1835
01:55:30,690 --> 01:55:34,290
built. Really did some work

1836
01:55:34,290 --> 01:55:37,350
here, just over the border in
the French region of law in the

1837
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:42,900
local press has honed in on
plans for a 6000 metre square

1838
01:55:42,900 --> 01:55:45,900
metre, five storey brothel
called Paradise Island and

1839
01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:51,600
sample can the locals also say
liberalisation, despite the fact

1840
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:55,200
that there's been all these
measures taken to bring it above

1841
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:58,620
board and to have it sanction
has drawn more prostitutes to

1842
01:55:58,620 --> 01:56:00,000
the streets? tab

1843
01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:05,940
five, the five story brothel
coming please, that's got to be

1844
01:56:05,940 --> 01:56:06,360
something that

1845
01:56:07,020 --> 01:56:11,580
my friend has been there. My
friend, my British gangster

1846
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:16,890
friend, and he says it's
outrageous. He said, it's like,

1847
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:21,450
it's like a mega club. You've
got food, you know, as you got

1848
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:25,590
just, you know, like nightclub.
It's an amazing place, he says.

1849
01:56:26,700 --> 01:56:29,220
And he says, it's really
affordable.

1850
01:56:30,660 --> 01:56:33,630
Ya know, the prices they gave
the women in Germany,

1851
01:56:33,630 --> 01:56:37,680
supposedly, it's just yeah, it's
a lot less than it is in Las

1852
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,040
Vegas, I'd say. So let's play
one more clip. This is the

1853
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,890
hookers in New Zealand, which is
this is the woman from England

1854
01:56:43,890 --> 01:56:46,890
who came on and said, you know
that these people are full of

1855
01:56:46,890 --> 01:56:49,680
crap. And these girls do what
they want to do. You know, they

1856
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,140
have in some instances, they
have really no other choice but

1857
01:56:52,140 --> 01:56:54,990
to do this, because they sit
because the one feminist as

1858
01:56:54,990 --> 01:56:58,710
well. They're only doing it for
the money. And then the guy

1859
01:56:58,710 --> 01:57:02,310
comes on says, I think most
people except Bill Gates, do

1860
01:57:02,310 --> 01:57:05,490
everything for the money. And
what's your point been mentioned

1861
01:57:05,490 --> 01:57:07,770
tonight is what they've done in
New Zealand where they

1862
01:57:07,770 --> 01:57:12,660
decriminalised prostitution 10
years ago. And first of all, and

1863
01:57:12,660 --> 01:57:16,170
then importantly, it has made it
safer for women to work because

1864
01:57:16,170 --> 01:57:19,440
women, if women are attacked,
they can come forward to the to

1865
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,740
the authorities and report
without any fear of arrest,

1866
01:57:22,860 --> 01:57:26,040
whether women are in Germany, if
people decided to stay on the

1867
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:30,750
stream doors, we think that
governments really should look

1868
01:57:30,780 --> 01:57:34,920
at what's happened in New
Zealand, where it has shown that

1869
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:38,250
it has made it safer, and safety
has to be the priority.

1870
01:57:40,140 --> 01:57:42,540
So anyway, so this is reasonable
voices, and I'm not going to

1871
01:57:42,540 --> 01:57:45,150
play all these clips, but I do
want to, I definitely have to

1872
01:57:45,150 --> 01:57:46,440
play the Swedish professor.

1873
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:49,740
Yeah, before we get I just want
to say that. I think this is the

1874
01:57:49,740 --> 01:57:53,160
media always likes this story,
which is why it gets played out

1875
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:58,920
so big, because they're
prostitutes, but they don't get

1876
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:03,540
to have sex. They get the people
who are doing television news

1877
01:58:03,570 --> 01:58:05,970
are more abuse than any
prostitutes. I know.

1878
01:58:06,209 --> 01:58:12,389
I would like to add to this
discussion here. The first Mr.

1879
01:58:12,959 --> 01:58:16,889
Mihail day he said that
prostitution is just like any

1880
01:58:16,889 --> 01:58:21,059
other job for people have their
free. If you compare

1881
01:58:21,059 --> 01:58:26,279
prostitution to say working at a
fast food restaurant, people

1882
01:58:26,279 --> 01:58:29,519
working at fast food restaurants
pay don't have post traumatic

1883
01:58:29,519 --> 01:58:33,629
stress disorder or other mental
disorders that are just as high

1884
01:58:33,629 --> 01:58:37,949
as a treatment seeking combat
veterans are victims of state

1885
01:58:37,949 --> 01:58:42,269
torture. That's the level of
abuse that women in prostitution

1886
01:58:42,269 --> 01:58:45,809
face worldwide. There are
numerous studies showing that

1887
01:58:46,439 --> 01:58:49,859
whether they are prostituted
indoors, in strip clubs, even in

1888
01:58:49,859 --> 01:58:55,049
pornography on the streets, that
the majority has suffered from

1889
01:58:55,109 --> 01:59:00,509
mental disorders and a number of
physical violence, exercise by

1890
01:59:00,509 --> 01:59:03,569
clients. None of these
conditions occurring other

1891
01:59:03,899 --> 01:59:09,659
regular low, low wage jobs
really, really.

1892
01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:14,070
So this guy claims at all
according to the Swedes and this

1893
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:17,970
they've been pushing this
they've all the hookers have

1894
01:59:18,030 --> 01:59:21,780
post traumatic stress disorder.
They're they're the same. They

1895
01:59:21,780 --> 01:59:26,400
have the same mental foundations
as a torture victim. And all the

1896
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,740
rest of it, which it Yeah, sure,
I'm sure you could find some

1897
01:59:28,740 --> 01:59:30,960
that are that fall into this
category. But it doesn't sound

1898
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,570
that way in New Zealand, where
you can actually go to the

1899
01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:36,720
police and get some some some
somebody to get arrested if

1900
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,450
something weird happens. Well, I
think that this was a very

1901
01:59:39,450 --> 01:59:42,780
interesting kind of debate that
I thought was if I just kind of

1902
01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:43,110
if I

1903
01:59:43,110 --> 01:59:47,520
look at the countries that now
we've we've covered Scandinavia,

1904
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:55,380
the Netherlands, France, all
countries with huge Muslim

1905
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:56,970
immigrant populations. i

1906
01:59:56,970 --> 02:00:01,140
Oh, that's very good catch
because that's my I thoughts to

1907
02:00:01,380 --> 02:00:06,480
this is looks to me to assuage
the Muslims or to keep the

1908
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:10,470
Muslims from because they are
traitors than white slavery to

1909
02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:14,160
keep them from doing their
business I don't know what it is

1910
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,740
but it there was no coincidence
they said Iceland

1911
02:00:16,770 --> 02:00:21,780
pretty general statement there
John Rawls six trade slave slave

1912
02:00:21,780 --> 02:00:22,260
traders

1913
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,830
damn damn yeah that is a
generalisation then it only

1914
02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:32,820
applies to a very small group of
Muslims but they do have a even

1915
02:00:32,850 --> 02:00:36,720
I think as a whole I think the
Muslims would like to do a

1916
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,380
foundational changes in the
moral code of some of these

1917
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:42,840
countries so well that's we know
that I think that's a

1918
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:46,050
generalisation that holds up for
the majority of Muslims yes

1919
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:51,870
that's just like their diversity
Yeah, I will also give it to the

1920
02:00:51,870 --> 02:00:53,220
to Muslims who listened to the
show

1921
02:00:53,220 --> 02:00:56,190
except now we got a lot of
Muslims listen to the show. It's

1922
02:00:56,190 --> 02:01:00,090
September 27 2000. They're
boarding in enough that's the

1923
02:01:00,090 --> 02:01:02,730
Reykjavik City Council approved
a building permit for the

1924
02:01:02,730 --> 02:01:06,720
construction of the first mosque
in Iceland starting there too.

1925
02:01:06,810 --> 02:01:11,400
So that's you know that that
coincides nicely we know that

1926
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:16,080
Sweden has huge huge months
Muslim angry Muslim population

1927
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:21,150
France so you know this is not
these things cannot be

1928
02:01:21,150 --> 02:01:25,020
overlooked these things are not
just coincidences, but the Great

1929
02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:27,210
Britain and Great Britain
totally they

1930
02:01:27,210 --> 02:01:30,480
have a great brands on their map
their map showed Sweden which is

1931
02:01:30,750 --> 02:01:35,550
largely Muslim in the south of
Norway which I don't know what

1932
02:01:35,550 --> 02:01:39,030
the connection is there because
we don't have a lot of somebody

1933
02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:41,640
in Norway to listen to the show
to tell us tell us yeah someone

1934
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:46,380
in the Netherlands was not on
this map with it with the

1935
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:47,010
highlight

1936
02:01:47,070 --> 02:01:49,980
Yeah, but I when I was there, I
saw a couple of stories I kind

1937
02:01:49,980 --> 02:01:53,820
of ignored it a little bit but
now it Phil fits in so

1938
02:01:53,820 --> 02:01:57,210
regardless of what is going on
all of these stories all these

1939
02:01:57,210 --> 02:02:00,180
countries all individually are
all part oh

1940
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:14,400
I'm gonna show my school by
donating to no agenda Imagine

1941
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,100
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

1942
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,440
All right, we got to start off
with a James Allen Law de Burgh

1943
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:31,950
and Reisch dot Norway who should
add tell us what's going on in

1944
02:02:31,950 --> 02:02:35,070
Norway regarding this There you
go to his 40th birthday. We got

1945
02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:40,110
him on the list. He's got a
111 11 and make it rain. 3333

1946
02:02:40,140 --> 02:02:45,150
Give me the knighthood and he
likes the EU wants in in the

1947
02:02:45,150 --> 02:02:46,770
morning with a train whistle

1948
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:50,940
I've got the in the morning if
you got the train whistle Do you

1949
02:02:50,940 --> 02:02:52,890
have your eye on this earlier

1950
02:02:52,890 --> 02:02:53,160
and I

1951
02:02:54,180 --> 02:02:57,270
You're so prepared for the show.
It's perfect. Yeah,

1952
02:02:58,020 --> 02:03:02,220
I didn't put it aside. Hold on a
second. Just talk about

1953
02:03:02,220 --> 02:03:02,640
something

1954
02:03:05,670 --> 02:03:11,100
GE talking about something I
don't want to waste any of my

1955
02:03:11,130 --> 02:03:14,070
precious material just on air
while you're looking for your

1956
02:03:14,070 --> 02:03:14,910
train whistle

1957
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:20,280
no problem. Yeah, so I have
three train whistles in this

1958
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:23,610
house and in my office I had
three train whistles I can't

1959
02:03:23,610 --> 02:03:24,360
find one of them.

1960
02:03:25,590 --> 02:03:26,700
I'm so sorry. I'm

1961
02:03:26,700 --> 02:03:30,540
going to play harm Oh, I know
what I'll do. Are you ready

1962
02:03:30,540 --> 02:03:33,120
harmonica played a certain way
sounds like a train whistle All

1963
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:33,540
right

1964
02:03:39,570 --> 02:03:45,030
I'd be asking for my money back
all right. All right. All right.

1965
02:03:45,030 --> 02:03:48,630
All right. Hey, let's get to our
Make It Rain segment we got a

1966
02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:51,480
couple the so let's do the names
and the names and then we'll

1967
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:52,080
actually make it

1968
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:56,250
rain. Yeah, yeah. Now when you
Alright, so

1969
02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:58,830
we have we have Robin bitterly.

1970
02:03:59,010 --> 02:04:01,680
What about our disorganisation
during this session?

1971
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:06,000
Rightly so, because you I mean,
you are you are disorganised.

1972
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:14,070
$111 Let me set the drift. Make
It Rain give it up for Raven, we

1973
02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:16,860
were gonna play you play that
Raven One then I'll play the

1974
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:23,160
then we'll go from there. And
he's got Tim Tim hassle in sacks

1975
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:28,290
of saxapahaw, North Carolina
$111.11. And he wants Sharona to

1976
02:04:28,290 --> 02:04:28,860
the stage.

1977
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:33,780
And he says thanks to my expat
daughter Elaine and Gitmo nation

1978
02:04:33,780 --> 02:04:36,990
Kiwi for hitting me in the mouth
need a D douching. And a Karma

1979
02:04:36,990 --> 02:04:38,970
thanks today's podcast and
universe will give you the D

1980
02:04:38,970 --> 02:04:40,620
douchey. Now the karma will come
at the end.

1981
02:04:41,700 --> 02:04:46,110
Everybody Eric and deuced What
is it American getting the

1982
02:04:46,260 --> 02:04:49,080
getting them out by an
Australian when that should be

1983
02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:52,200
the other way around Steven van
and plantago North Carolina

1984
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:54,930
$111.11 It's okay, here we go.
Ready?

1985
02:04:55,020 --> 02:04:59,100
Wait, wait, you missed Tom
hassle, call Sharona to the

1986
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:02,550
state of that. I'm sorry. Oops
my mistake. You already had that

1987
02:05:02,550 --> 02:05:05,070
one okay I'll do Raven then we
get them we'll come back to you.

1988
02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:11,640
Great from receita here she is
grey man give it up

1989
02:05:17,730 --> 02:05:21,270
ladies and gentlemen a big round
of applause for that cookie tot

1990
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:24,300
bombshell Janine as she comes
off the stage find her at the

1991
02:05:24,300 --> 02:05:27,180
private dance rooms where you
can live like a king but lap

1992
02:05:27,180 --> 02:05:30,720
dance is on sale. That's where
your discount coupon and free

1993
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:34,470
private dance card available at
the bar by 10 dancers get one

1994
02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:37,950
free now to the main stage is
Serota. She likes dirt bikes

1995
02:05:37,950 --> 02:05:42,600
Dirty Dancing dirty boys in Star
Trek as Sue would say, oh my

1996
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:47,250
Sharona give it up the Sharona
Julian dice rolling and Donna

1997
02:05:47,250 --> 02:05:51,480
will be doing a lesbian act on
stage to bring them up bring

1998
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:55,140
them up Joanne Donna these two
hotties can be seen at the club

1999
02:05:55,140 --> 02:06:00,630
on Wednesday mud wrestling dance
today and the girls will give

2000
02:06:00,630 --> 02:06:03,750
you a voucher for free entrance

2001
02:06:08,250 --> 02:06:11,520
is that it? Yes. We had someone
to forget his wallet in the

2002
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:13,140
champagne room. Oh somebody's

2003
02:06:21,690 --> 02:06:24,060
got to ladies and gentlemen
wallet cloud

2004
02:06:30,090 --> 02:06:33,750
Wow. Last year while in the
champagne room please go return

2005
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:41,100
truly truly truly pathetic good
script well done Well played

2006
02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:46,170
sir. Very good script very very
happy with that. Nice like the

2007
02:06:46,170 --> 02:06:53,850
line that Sulu huh? Oh my on it.
He says oh my.

2008
02:06:56,910 --> 02:06:59,520
Okay, nice. That's got to end
soon.

2009
02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:01,800
It's not gonna last.

2010
02:07:02,490 --> 02:07:08,670
MC squared at all is Davenport
Iowa. Wants to common core stuff

2011
02:07:08,670 --> 02:07:11,790
to keep on keeping on CSS
Computer Solutions and Services.

2012
02:07:11,790 --> 02:07:16,560
$77.77 sack of sevens. Second
sevens from Kathleen Bauman and

2013
02:07:16,890 --> 02:07:21,570
quartz Hill, California also
from Ed's Siemens, Simon's

2014
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:25,890
Siemens, I think it'd be
Siemens, Siemens, San Diego,

2015
02:07:25,890 --> 02:07:29,430
California and up the road from
him Daniel van sunder and

2016
02:07:29,460 --> 02:07:35,190
Pacific Grove, California. Brian
Clark 7575 from Parts Unknown

2017
02:07:35,190 --> 02:07:44,730
John Hyneman $75 from Monaca,
Pennsylvania 69 For sure, 569 we

2018
02:07:44,730 --> 02:07:47,640
have a bunch of 6960 Nights
including Sir Victor Greg in

2019
02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:55,020
Decatur, Georgia as Luke mage in
Denver, Colorado. Robert Zaloom

2020
02:07:55,050 --> 02:07:58,740
in Atlanta, Georgia. Edward
Hines in Jacksonville, Florida

2021
02:08:02,820 --> 02:08:05,070
bear we're barely worth the
closing jingle.

2022
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:08,610
Eric man Makkari

2023
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:10,950
makaira Which McKerrow it's

2024
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:18,600
a cara which is the coro New
Mexico Judy Schwartz 5865 In

2025
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:22,110
Boehm bone Texas now

2026
02:08:22,140 --> 02:08:24,420
born thing is born

2027
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:27,810
oh yeah you know this this thing
this tiny it's funny

2028
02:08:27,810 --> 02:08:31,290
because I have the same thing
with it's it's like every show

2029
02:08:31,290 --> 02:08:33,450
and it's not a complaint it's
just an observation every show

2030
02:08:33,450 --> 02:08:36,240
the spreadsheets a little
different. So so today I

2031
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:38,820
couldn't actually zoom in on the
spreadsheet because then all the

2032
02:08:38,820 --> 02:08:43,170
cells went away to now it has to
be really small. It's an

2033
02:08:43,170 --> 02:08:45,090
inconsistency that is baffling

2034
02:08:45,810 --> 02:08:49,890
Judy, Joshua Mandel, I'm sorry
in Greenville, South Carolina

2035
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,410
double nickels on the dime,
double nickels on the dime but

2036
02:08:52,410 --> 02:08:59,610
the only one John grumbling is a
great name. Hey, grumbling

2037
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:04,410
battlement Mesa Colorado Wow,
what a great name for a town

2038
02:09:05,190 --> 02:09:06,930
that means that you can

2039
02:09:06,959 --> 02:09:09,359
be said shout out to everyone
working on the holiday

2040
02:09:09,359 --> 02:09:11,279
solidarity my brothers and
sisters.

2041
02:09:14,310 --> 02:09:19,320
But Eric whole cool. In Berlin
Deutschland.

2042
02:09:19,350 --> 02:09:23,370
Yeah, you know, you need to be
spying for us on Poydras. And

2043
02:09:23,670 --> 02:09:28,650
yeah, he got home and Aaron and
Snowdens girlfriend that hottie

2044
02:09:28,650 --> 02:09:30,510
Sarah Robinson what's her name?
Sarah

2045
02:09:31,230 --> 02:09:35,400
Baron Vaughn Gerlach from
Lincoln, California 5150. Kevin

2046
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:40,530
Payne 5069 from Richmond,
Virginia. And then $50 Each from

2047
02:09:40,530 --> 02:09:43,620
Ralph mosteiro and Kirkland
Washington home a Costco.

2048
02:09:44,190 --> 02:09:49,110
Bhaskara. Dan Donna in
Birmingham, West Midlands, UK

2049
02:09:49,110 --> 02:09:54,330
Mike Bateman in Minneapolis
Minnesota nuts. Brian guild bow

2050
02:09:54,390 --> 02:10:01,110
in Oak Park, Michigan, Tim
Connor in Edmond In Alberta,

2051
02:10:01,350 --> 02:10:07,080
Canada, Peter totalities and
Parts Unknown. Is shad rich and

2052
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:16,140
Seattle, Washington. Marcus Kaz
Merrick again. James Bond check

2053
02:10:16,290 --> 02:10:21,570
in Plains, Pennsylvania. And
last to psoralen been our old

2054
02:10:21,570 --> 02:10:25,380
buddy over here in Oakland,
California. And he's got to be

2055
02:10:25,380 --> 02:10:29,910
on the birthday list and Marta
calles Strom in Portland

2056
02:10:30,810 --> 02:10:35,820
Portlandia Oregon. That would be
good for today though we'll turn

2057
02:10:35,850 --> 02:10:38,820
good turnout. Thanks everybody.
Yeah came in and helped us out

2058
02:10:38,820 --> 02:10:41,550
for show 569

2059
02:10:42,270 --> 02:10:47,580
And this is really nice. This is
this is I don't think there was

2060
02:10:47,580 --> 02:10:50,010
like this on last year's
Thanksgiving John, we had a nice

2061
02:10:50,010 --> 02:10:52,440
turnout and good and worth and
people were thankful and we

2062
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:53,190
could be thankful.

2063
02:10:53,579 --> 02:10:58,289
Yeah. Okay, training is gone.

2064
02:10:58,650 --> 02:11:04,230
The train is gone. alright.org/n
A is keep it up people keep

2065
02:11:04,230 --> 02:11:07,320
supporting us so it is necessary
for us to continue the work and

2066
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:09,660
I think you'll enjoy we have in
the second half of the show, so

2067
02:11:17,700 --> 02:11:24,180
congratulations bomb. Capron
turns 88 Tomorrow, who? James

2068
02:11:24,180 --> 02:11:28,530
Allen Lord burgers 40 today and
happy birthday, Robert Salem

2069
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Congratulations and a virtual

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quite nice. Yeah, it's been
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swords. Nice and Mark Evans step
forward. Brian s Hall and Jeremy

2074
02:11:52,650 --> 02:11:54,960
Johnson. Gentlemen, thank you
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2075
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2076
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02:12:30,180 --> 02:12:34,620
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people in the mouth with that
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2086
02:12:40,290 --> 02:12:46,020
On your fist. Nice Thanks, guys.
Say the warm printers heated up

2087
02:12:46,020 --> 02:12:49,440
all of a sudden the war on
printers. Yep, the war on

2088
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:53,970
printers. This was this is being
covered up of course as the war

2089
02:12:53,970 --> 02:12:57,090
against 3d printed guns. Oh,

2090
02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:59,520
the war on 3d printers? Yes,
yes.

2091
02:12:59,790 --> 02:13:02,610
And I actually was keeping this
particular clip of

2092
02:13:02,610 --> 02:13:07,290
Representative Steve Israel who
brought this up again, but I but

2093
02:13:07,290 --> 02:13:11,160
I can actually now bring this
back to what's really going on.

2094
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:12,030
It's important.

2095
02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:15,600
Well, you know, Chris, you're
right, the clock is ticking. And

2096
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:19,650
every day that goes by makes the
situation much more dangerous

2097
02:13:19,650 --> 02:13:20,700
for the American people.

2098
02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:23,580
So what are we talking about
here what he is talking about?

2099
02:13:24,060 --> 02:13:29,040
And what is the cover for this
ultimately war on 3d printers,

2100
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:32,700
these printers will be outlawed.
And or there will be such

2101
02:13:32,700 --> 02:13:35,580
restrictions put on them that
they will be almost impossible

2102
02:13:35,580 --> 02:13:39,990
to acquire without all kinds of
licencing. And proof is the

2103
02:13:40,260 --> 02:13:44,310
undetectable gun law. I think
that's what it's called, which

2104
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:47,190
is set to expire. And of course
it'll get renewed it's very

2105
02:13:47,190 --> 02:13:50,160
simple to do that. There's not a
not a lot of problems with

2106
02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:52,740
people saying hey, you shouldn't
have a gun that is undetectable

2107
02:13:52,740 --> 02:13:55,830
even though these guns that are
undetectable pretty much blow up

2108
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:59,520
in your face. So here's Dear
Steve Israel running cover

2109
02:13:59,580 --> 02:14:03,600
in 1988, we passed the
undetectable Firearms Act

2110
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:06,480
because we did not think that it
would be a good idea to allow

2111
02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:11,340
bad people to smuggle firearms
through metal detectors on our

2112
02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:14,070
planes and in high security
environments. That was done in

2113
02:14:14,070 --> 02:14:17,400
the Reagan administration. It
was renewed in the Bush

2114
02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:19,980
administration, it was renewed
in the Clinton administration

2115
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:23,820
renewed again in the Bush
administration. When we renewed

2116
02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:29,340
those that law, the prospect of
a 3d printed plastic gun was

2117
02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:33,360
science fiction. It is a reality
and we are only two weeks away

2118
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:34,860
from the expiration of that
loss.

2119
02:14:34,890 --> 02:14:37,710
Okay, so that's the cover. So
what is the news that comes out

2120
02:14:37,710 --> 02:14:38,490
yesterday, Delphi

2121
02:14:38,490 --> 02:14:42,390
is about to become the first
city to ban the printing of 3d

2122
02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:46,350
guns. It might seem crazy, but
working guns can be made using a

2123
02:14:46,350 --> 02:14:49,740
3d printer. So the city's in the
process of passing a law to

2124
02:14:49,740 --> 02:14:53,670
prevent guns and parts of a gun
from being made by anyone other

2125
02:14:53,670 --> 02:14:56,640
than licenced gun makers. I
think that's a safe thing to do

2126
02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:59,070
here. You never want you don't
want the wrong person getting

2127
02:14:59,070 --> 02:15:01,860
the formula Oh yeah, the code
formula,

2128
02:15:01,980 --> 02:15:08,070
the code Shut up, you press the
tube, okay. So Philadelphia puts

2129
02:15:08,070 --> 02:15:13,620
this law down which is 130584.
And it literally says, use a

2130
02:15:13,620 --> 02:15:16,440
three dimensional printer to
manufacture firearms should be

2131
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:19,440
forbidden firearm any device
designed made or adapted to

2132
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:22,200
expel a projectile through a
barrel by using the energy

2133
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:25,200
generated by an explosive or
burning substance or any device

2134
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:28,950
readily convertible to that use.
So it will be a restriction on

2135
02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:32,940
use no person cell shall use a
three dimensional printer to

2136
02:15:32,940 --> 02:15:36,720
create any firearm or any piece
or part thereof, unless such

2137
02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:40,710
person possesses a licence to
manufacture a firearm. So this

2138
02:15:40,710 --> 02:15:43,020
is, you know, how are you going
to enforce that. But more

2139
02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:48,450
importantly, why why
Philadelphia. And this is proof

2140
02:15:48,450 --> 02:15:52,860
of my original theory. I
remember Cody Wilson, who now

2141
02:15:52,860 --> 02:15:57,810
has pretty much gone away from
the 3d printed gun scene and is

2142
02:15:57,810 --> 02:16:02,610
now selling a Bitcoin wallet.
That's his new thing, because

2143
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:08,580
he's a horror for whoever he
pays him to do stuff. His he

2144
02:16:08,580 --> 02:16:10,980
only needed to bring this up to
the forefront. So we could all

2145
02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:15,090
be afraid of 3d printed guns to
restrict these printers. Why in

2146
02:16:15,090 --> 02:16:19,080
Philadelphia, because it is in
Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, one

2147
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:25,050
of the three locations of for
the Department of Energy and

2148
02:16:25,050 --> 02:16:30,930
Department of Defense's additive
manufacturing centres. You

2149
02:16:30,930 --> 02:16:33,120
remember the President talked
about 3d printers and how

2150
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:37,380
exciting they will be in his
State of the Union, we we played

2151
02:16:37,380 --> 02:16:40,500
all those clips for you when we
first came up with the idea that

2152
02:16:40,500 --> 02:16:45,120
this is about restricting 3d
printers. And so it's a lot of

2153
02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:49,230
money involved. There's multiple
universities in Pennsylvania,

2154
02:16:49,230 --> 02:16:53,190
Pennsylvania is a major hub. In
fact, I have an article here,

2155
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:56,730
Pennsylvania to play a major
role in 3d printing explosion.

2156
02:16:56,880 --> 02:17:02,280
So we need to limit the slaves
access to this technology. And

2157
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:07,230
if you look at what's happening
now GE, in the next five years,

2158
02:17:07,260 --> 02:17:11,640
they will be producing aviation
parts with this technology with

2159
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:15,150
additive additive manufacturing.
And I have a couple of links in

2160
02:17:15,150 --> 02:17:20,250
the show notes. So p and if you
look at rapid 2014. Well, rapid

2161
02:17:20,250 --> 02:17:25,620
2013 was the main additive
manufacturing conference, which

2162
02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:33,990
was just held in, in Pittsburgh.
The next one is in 2014, will be

2163
02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:38,220
held in Detroit. So I fully
expect Detroit to be next on the

2164
02:17:38,220 --> 02:17:43,590
list with all kinds of banning
of 3d printed guns. But put, we

2165
02:17:43,590 --> 02:17:47,100
have this in the book, mark my
words, there's going to be

2166
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:51,360
licences and restrictions, and
maybe a test for you to have a

2167
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:55,380
3d printer. And this is because
the big business doesn't want

2168
02:17:55,380 --> 02:18:00,210
you to have this technology. And
it's it's and it's all under the

2169
02:18:00,210 --> 02:18:03,000
guise of Oh, you're going to
print something scary. So what

2170
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:06,510
will it be next? What will the
next scary thing be that you can

2171
02:18:06,510 --> 02:18:08,370
print that there's going to be
some restriction on?

2172
02:18:11,129 --> 02:18:12,149
A hand grenade?

2173
02:18:13,379 --> 02:18:17,969
No, it'll be something it'll be
it'll be, you know, it's coming.

2174
02:18:18,029 --> 02:18:21,869
The so of course, these printers
you can buy now most of them are

2175
02:18:23,039 --> 02:18:25,499
kind of for entertainment
purposes, I think, Oh, they're

2176
02:18:25,499 --> 02:18:26,099
junk.

2177
02:18:26,129 --> 02:18:26,459
Yeah.

2178
02:18:27,299 --> 02:18:31,289
But it is it is eventually going
to be something really cool, but

2179
02:18:31,289 --> 02:18:34,709
you're just not going to be
allowed to have it. Unless

2180
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:43,229
people start getting in. I think
that this is a bad law. Everyone

2181
02:18:43,229 --> 02:18:46,379
thinks Oh, of course. But if you
can, if you can get one law push

2182
02:18:46,379 --> 02:18:49,889
through that restricts using
something for a certain purpose,

2183
02:18:50,099 --> 02:18:53,039
which you don't need because
there's all kinds of laws about

2184
02:18:53,369 --> 02:18:58,259
manufacturing things and and how
many and for what you said, you

2185
02:18:58,259 --> 02:19:02,429
don't need an extra law to
forbid the the printing of gun

2186
02:19:02,429 --> 02:19:06,179
parts. We're gonna have the
Stasi knocking on my door to

2187
02:19:06,179 --> 02:19:08,639
come and check and see if I
don't have a lower receiver I

2188
02:19:08,639 --> 02:19:09,299
printed.

2189
02:19:10,799 --> 02:19:13,199
Yeah, no, it's something I
think. I don't know if you've

2190
02:19:13,199 --> 02:19:16,199
hit this one. But there's
something screwy about this.

2191
02:19:16,440 --> 02:19:19,380
I'm telling you, John, it's to
outlaw this technology.

2192
02:19:20,249 --> 02:19:22,799
No, I'm not buying into this at
all.

2193
02:19:22,829 --> 02:19:26,939
Okay, well, it'll take some time
but you This is my been my

2194
02:19:26,939 --> 02:19:29,699
theory. And now all of a sudden
Philadelphia one of the three

2195
02:19:29,699 --> 02:19:35,099
major hubs of 3d printing.
Coincidence is rather large.

2196
02:19:38,610 --> 02:19:47,460
I guess. I was stung by a piece
of news today. ABC News wins

2197
02:19:47,460 --> 02:19:48,210
awards.

2198
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:53,550
at ABC World News with Diane
Sawyer honoured winner of the

2199
02:19:53,550 --> 02:19:57,510
prestigious Edward R. Murrow
Award for Best Newscast, ABC

2200
02:19:57,510 --> 02:20:01,350
News, honoured with five Murrow
awards. See no wonder more

2201
02:20:01,350 --> 02:20:07,020
Americans choose ABC News.
Wasn't that the World News

2202
02:20:07,020 --> 02:20:11,220
Tonight that did the dog and the
puppy story? Yeah, yeah. I think

2203
02:20:11,250 --> 02:20:11,520
no, I

2204
02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:15,570
could do that I could record
World News Tonight with Diane

2205
02:20:15,570 --> 02:20:18,600
Sawyer every night and there's
no world news in any of the

2206
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:22,770
stories. And as always heard
Neil breathlessly talking about

2207
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,760
something on Twitter. How does
she win anything? Or there's

2208
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:30,930
broadcast? It's one five or six.
Obviously there are the Edward

2209
02:20:30,930 --> 02:20:35,520
R. Murrow award is a piece of
crap. who distributes this

2210
02:20:35,580 --> 02:20:40,290
award. I know I know, Edward R.
Murrow was out of CBS write some

2211
02:20:40,290 --> 02:20:43,080
group but yeah, but CBS isn't
given an ABC or what is the

2212
02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:48,000
Is this the the protection of
journalism awards? No, no, and

2213
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:54,330
our T DNA? What is this our T
dna.org. Here's Edward R. Murrow

2214
02:20:54,360 --> 02:21:00,570
award. Of course, for this, we
just have to there's several

2215
02:21:01,860 --> 02:21:06,180
good news casts not the person
she doesn't get the award. But

2216
02:21:06,180 --> 02:21:10,260
their show does. You know the
outstanding achievements in

2217
02:21:10,260 --> 02:21:14,550
electronic journalism since
1971, who's the Radio Television

2218
02:21:14,550 --> 02:21:17,190
digital news Association, they
dropped digital and only

2219
02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:17,760
recently.

2220
02:21:19,170 --> 02:21:20,340
It's like the web these.

2221
02:21:23,700 --> 02:21:28,170
Check here for rules and entry
requirements. And so then they

2222
02:21:28,170 --> 02:21:34,320
doubt you download this huge or
not, you can just PDF which is

2223
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:36,180
thinking I'm gonna see what this
is. I'll betcha is one of the

2224
02:21:36,180 --> 02:21:37,170
things you have to pay.

2225
02:21:37,649 --> 02:21:41,489
Oh, yeah. Oh, no doubt. They all
have to pay for everything they

2226
02:21:41,489 --> 02:21:44,729
all have to pay don't pay for
ultimately, one way or the

2227
02:21:44,729 --> 02:21:45,089
other.

2228
02:21:45,570 --> 02:21:48,000
Now, there are some awards of
legitimate awards. You don't pay

2229
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:52,200
necessarily to get an Emmy. He
had to be a member member of

2230
02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:55,050
the Academy. Sure. Expensive. It
couldn't be a member.

2231
02:21:57,059 --> 02:21:58,679
Not look into this. Yeah.

2232
02:21:58,950 --> 02:22:02,010
Well, it's it's award season,
you know, it's time it's time.

2233
02:22:02,430 --> 02:22:04,560
Every year, we got to start
doing stuff like that.

2234
02:22:04,979 --> 02:22:08,969
Wait a minute website who's
eligible to enter this category?

2235
02:22:09,269 --> 02:22:13,679
What do I need to enter? five
examples of functioning cached

2236
02:22:13,679 --> 02:22:17,189
or active URL URLs that
demonstrate the exceptional news

2237
02:22:17,189 --> 02:22:19,829
coverage and journalists the
Dvorak uncensored, perfect.

2238
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,550
About the show notes, we can
send them

2239
02:22:23,579 --> 02:22:26,249
the show notes are stunning. We
should do enter the shownotes

2240
02:22:26,249 --> 02:22:34,379
569 links to stuff nuts, not
seeing that there's a fee here.

2241
02:22:36,329 --> 02:22:39,359
February 7 2014 to get it
together, we can get it well let

2242
02:22:39,359 --> 02:22:45,779
me Oh, entry fees. Oh, how much
website Oh, listen to this if

2243
02:22:45,779 --> 02:22:49,769
your radio station and your non
member, or members Hi, but if

2244
02:22:49,769 --> 02:22:54,779
say your non member view radio
has cost you $120 to enter. If

2245
02:22:54,779 --> 02:22:58,649
you're a TV, it costs you $200
to enter. So what do you think a

2246
02:22:58,649 --> 02:23:08,339
website should cost? $5 $245 It
costs more than a television

2247
02:23:08,339 --> 02:23:08,939
station.

2248
02:23:11,129 --> 02:23:11,969
Oh, that's funny.

2249
02:23:12,420 --> 02:23:15,330
So the websites the most
expensive they don't want

2250
02:23:15,630 --> 02:23:19,830
anybody that could possibly have
a quality product entering this

2251
02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:23,220
competition. The Edward R.
Murrow awards when you hear

2252
02:23:23,220 --> 02:23:25,200
about anyone winning them, it's
another one of these things

2253
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:29,280
where you got to pay to be
eligible. And it's bull crap.

2254
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:34,140
Anyway, and there you have it.

2255
02:23:34,170 --> 02:23:36,480
All right. I did some
journalistic work. And I think I

2256
02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:40,320
came up with something that is a
smoking gun. Like it was not

2257
02:23:40,320 --> 02:23:43,230
easy. By the way. There's a lot
of work that went into this. And

2258
02:23:43,230 --> 02:23:46,050
here's the clip. We're just

2259
02:23:46,049 --> 02:23:48,989
learning that a judge has now
ordered the release of 911 calls

2260
02:23:48,989 --> 02:23:52,259
from the massacre at Sandy Hook
Elementary. This just one day

2261
02:23:52,259 --> 02:23:56,429
after report revealed chilling
new details, shooter and images

2262
02:23:56,429 --> 02:24:00,239
from that horrific day and
larger concerns about mental

2263
02:24:00,239 --> 02:24:03,029
health in this country and
whether it's in crisis, or Brian

2264
02:24:03,029 --> 02:24:05,399
Todd is working on this part of
the story. Brian, what are you

2265
02:24:05,399 --> 02:24:05,879
finding out?

2266
02:24:05,940 --> 02:24:08,940
Well, Jim, experts have told me
no doubt that mental health in

2267
02:24:08,940 --> 02:24:12,900
the US is in crisis. They say
that crisis is manifesting

2268
02:24:12,900 --> 02:24:16,530
itself in rampage killings,
other horrific incidents like

2269
02:24:16,530 --> 02:24:19,260
the Newtown shootings. A new
report, which includes some

2270
02:24:19,260 --> 02:24:22,140
jarring photographs, addresses
the mental health of shooter

2271
02:24:22,140 --> 02:24:28,140
Adam Lanza. The shot out windows
of the entrance to Sandy Hook

2272
02:24:28,140 --> 02:24:31,740
Elementary School, the
Bushmaster rifle used to kill 20

2273
02:24:31,740 --> 02:24:35,790
children and six adults. Newly
released bone chilling images of

2274
02:24:35,790 --> 02:24:38,940
the crime scene in the Newtown
shootings from Connecticut State

2275
02:24:38,940 --> 02:24:42,660
investigators black plastic bags
taped over the windows of his

2276
02:24:42,660 --> 02:24:46,860
bedroom mirror the dark mind of
shooter Adam Lanza. Just off his

2277
02:24:46,860 --> 02:24:49,980
computer room, there's a gun
locker, a gun still perched

2278
02:24:49,980 --> 02:24:53,790
inside. The new report says
Lanza did a spreadsheet on other

2279
02:24:53,790 --> 02:24:57,870
mass murders kept a newspaper
clipping from an 1891 school

2280
02:24:57,870 --> 02:24:58,290
shooting.

2281
02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:02,250
Adam Lanza is sort Have a
blackbox in which we see the

2282
02:25:02,250 --> 02:25:07,170
crash. But we don't really know
what happened that led to the

2283
02:25:07,170 --> 02:25:07,860
crash.

2284
02:25:07,950 --> 02:25:10,770
The report says Lanza had
significant mental health

2285
02:25:10,770 --> 02:25:14,190
issues, but the professionals
who saw him did not see anything

2286
02:25:14,190 --> 02:25:16,980
that would have predicted his
future behaviour. What may

2287
02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:21,510
happen is that if you cannot
definitively say that that

2288
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:25,230
patient is a danger to
themselves, or others or

2289
02:25:25,230 --> 02:25:30,540
property, then you don't turn
them over to the police. This is

2290
02:25:30,540 --> 02:25:33,780
a tale of two families and their
struggles with mental health.

2291
02:25:33,930 --> 02:25:36,840
The lands now pay attention to
this because this is where we

2292
02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:39,960
see the narrative morphing
towards what it really is all

2293
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:44,370
about, not about guns, but it's
a war on crazy. And so they take

2294
02:25:44,400 --> 02:25:47,310
all of a sudden it's a story
about two families completely

2295
02:25:47,340 --> 02:25:52,020
unrelated story, but it's all
about health care, how you take

2296
02:25:52,020 --> 02:25:55,890
care of someone how you if
they're crazy, what constitutes

2297
02:25:55,890 --> 02:25:59,310
is crazy and and be careful
because you don't want to be

2298
02:25:59,310 --> 02:26:00,600
labelled as crazy family

2299
02:26:00,599 --> 02:26:03,809
whose efforts to get treatment
for their son are unclear. And

2300
02:26:03,809 --> 02:26:07,229
the family of Virginia State
Senator Cree deeds, their son

2301
02:26:07,229 --> 02:26:10,679
Austin was evaluated for mental
illness, he was released from a

2302
02:26:10,679 --> 02:26:13,829
hospital a day before he
repeatedly stabbed his father

2303
02:26:13,829 --> 02:26:17,069
and then killed himself released
because according to the

2304
02:26:17,069 --> 02:26:20,069
Rockbridge, Area Community
Services Board in Virginia,

2305
02:26:20,249 --> 02:26:23,909
there were no psychiatric beds
available. CNN later learned at

2306
02:26:23,909 --> 02:26:26,459
least three hospitals in the
state had beds.

2307
02:26:26,639 --> 02:26:30,479
Now this is a very disgusting
way of reporting is really,

2308
02:26:30,479 --> 02:26:33,719
really not okay, what they're
doing particularly in light of

2309
02:26:34,079 --> 02:26:37,169
all of this so called
documentation that came out

2310
02:26:37,169 --> 02:26:41,789
regarding Adam Lanza, and in the
sand, so called Sandy Hook

2311
02:26:41,789 --> 02:26:45,749
shooting. So there's two
documents or two PDFs and I have

2312
02:26:45,749 --> 02:26:51,119
both of them in the show notes.
And one is the final report,

2313
02:26:51,119 --> 02:26:54,899
which most people are referring
to, and the other is the

2314
02:26:54,929 --> 02:27:00,299
compressed PDF, with all of the
pictures the chilling pictures,

2315
02:27:00,299 --> 02:27:03,629
which consists of nothing. So
first of all, you have to you

2316
02:27:03,629 --> 02:27:07,559
cannot open this compressed PDF
unless you are using the Adobe

2317
02:27:07,559 --> 02:27:13,889
Reader project product. The
Adobe Reader product is which I

2318
02:27:13,889 --> 02:27:19,379
did instal in order to open the
archive is a piece of spying

2319
02:27:19,379 --> 02:27:24,869
crap, which I in the shownotes
have also put to Section seven

2320
02:27:24,899 --> 02:27:27,749
have the terms of service which
you have to agree to, to use the

2321
02:27:27,749 --> 02:27:31,289
product regarding connectivity
and privacy, which you pretty

2322
02:27:31,289 --> 02:27:34,199
much don't have, because this
thing talks back to home base

2323
02:27:34,199 --> 02:27:37,859
about what you're reading, how
you're reading, it can pass

2324
02:27:38,039 --> 02:27:41,909
passwords, usernames, all kinds
of all kinds of stuff. So it's

2325
02:27:41,999 --> 02:27:46,949
spyware. The pictures they have
in this you the ones you've seen

2326
02:27:46,949 --> 02:27:50,189
on television is pretty much
what it is. There's a picture of

2327
02:27:50,189 --> 02:27:55,619
a shot out a pane of glass at
the front of the school, and

2328
02:27:55,619 --> 02:27:59,339
then they show examples of
doorknobs they don't show the

2329
02:27:59,339 --> 02:28:03,989
actual doorknobs. It even says
in the document, example of a

2330
02:28:03,989 --> 02:28:08,069
store a doorknob to a classroom,
you know, classrooms aid, it's

2331
02:28:08,069 --> 02:28:10,409
not even the real picture. It's
just an example. So there's

2332
02:28:10,409 --> 02:28:13,259
nothing there's not a single
picture in there of anything

2333
02:28:13,259 --> 02:28:15,599
that shows that anything
happened not even a picture of

2334
02:28:15,599 --> 02:28:21,449
blood, nothing, nothing nothing
but what I found in the in the

2335
02:28:21,449 --> 02:28:25,109
notes of this final report, very
interesting footnote 53

2336
02:28:25,169 --> 02:28:31,949
Regarding the Bushmaster, this
is the read you what it says and

2337
02:28:31,949 --> 02:28:34,019
I'll read a footnote that's
referred to and this is really

2338
02:28:34,019 --> 02:28:35,939
all I need to say and then
you'll know what's going on

2339
02:28:36,179 --> 02:28:39,329
Bushmaster model XM one five
dash e to a semi automatic

2340
02:28:39,329 --> 02:28:42,119
rifle, the Bushmaster rifle was
found in classroom 10. The

2341
02:28:42,119 --> 02:28:44,519
Bushmaster was tested and found
to be operable without

2342
02:28:44,519 --> 02:28:48,389
malfunction all of the 5.56
millimetre shell casings from

2343
02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:50,309
Sandy Hook Elementary School
that were tested were found to

2344
02:28:50,309 --> 02:28:53,549
have been fired from this rifle.
All of the bullets and fragments

2345
02:28:53,549 --> 02:28:57,599
recovered from SHGs and the OC
me that were tested with the

2346
02:28:57,599 --> 02:29:00,449
exception of those mentioned
immediately below are consistent

2347
02:29:00,989 --> 02:29:04,619
with having been fired from the
Bushmaster rifle footnote 53

2348
02:29:05,489 --> 02:29:10,709
footnote 53 no positive
identification could be made to

2349
02:29:10,739 --> 02:29:15,479
any of the bullet evidence
submissions noted. To repeat

2350
02:29:15,479 --> 02:29:19,739
that, no positive identification
could be made to any of the

2351
02:29:19,739 --> 02:29:23,999
bullet evidence submissions
noted. In five point 56

2352
02:29:23,999 --> 02:29:26,699
millimetre calibre the physical
condition of the bullet jacket

2353
02:29:26,699 --> 02:29:30,089
surfaces were severely damaged
and corroded. They all lacked

2354
02:29:30,089 --> 02:29:34,439
individuals strike good marks of
sufficient agreement for

2355
02:29:34,439 --> 02:29:38,969
identification purposes. The
test fires also exhibited a lack

2356
02:29:38,969 --> 02:29:41,549
of individual strated marks on
the bullet surface for

2357
02:29:41,549 --> 02:29:44,939
comparison purposes. This
condition can be caused by

2358
02:29:44,939 --> 02:29:48,899
falling in the barrel, the rifle
etc. So, just so you know, no

2359
02:29:48,899 --> 02:29:52,319
positive identification could be
made to any of the bullet

2360
02:29:52,319 --> 02:29:55,829
evidence submission noted.
That's funny, I didn't hear

2361
02:29:55,829 --> 02:30:01,769
anyone mentioned that. Other
testing In the course of the

2362
02:30:01,769 --> 02:30:04,979
investigation, swabbing PSA test
for DNA were taken from various

2363
02:30:04,979 --> 02:30:07,679
pieces of evidence in the case
of the Sandy Hook Elementary

2364
02:30:07,679 --> 02:30:11,939
School and 36 Uganda, St.
Yogananda Street. The purpose

2365
02:30:11,939 --> 02:30:14,249
was to determine if anyone else
had actively been involved in

2366
02:30:14,249 --> 02:30:17,219
the planning or carrying
shooting of the shootings. These

2367
02:30:17,219 --> 02:30:21,929
swabs were tested and compared
to known samples. To have the ID

2368
02:30:21,959 --> 02:30:24,419
footnote, two of the items
examined from outside the

2369
02:30:24,419 --> 02:30:26,669
building of Sandy hooks
elementary school, one from the

2370
02:30:26,669 --> 02:30:30,719
shotgun in the shooters car.
That's that we saw that in the

2371
02:30:30,719 --> 02:30:35,639
trunk, which was handled by the
police officers, and a second

2372
02:30:35,639 --> 02:30:39,149
from 36 Yogananda street yield
the DNA profiles consistent with

2373
02:30:39,149 --> 02:30:43,049
the DNA profiles of two of the
victims killed inside Sandy Hook

2374
02:30:43,049 --> 02:30:46,919
Elementary School, one in each.
It is strongly believed that

2375
02:30:46,919 --> 02:30:51,209
this resulted from an accidental
transference as a result of the

2376
02:30:51,209 --> 02:30:54,479
unique circumstances of this
case, there is no reason to

2377
02:30:54,479 --> 02:30:56,999
believe that either victim would
ever have come in contact with

2378
02:30:56,999 --> 02:31:05,069
these items yet their DNA is on
them. This stinks. We have DNA

2379
02:31:05,069 --> 02:31:10,499
evidence of victims on weapons
found outside the school and we

2380
02:31:10,499 --> 02:31:16,559
have inconclusive ballistics on
any of the bullets fired,

2381
02:31:16,859 --> 02:31:18,719
and they're all corroded for
some reason.

2382
02:31:19,469 --> 02:31:23,429
This is so and there's tonnes of
stuff in here that isn't

2383
02:31:23,459 --> 02:31:25,979
discussed. I mean, the things
the items that I find

2384
02:31:26,009 --> 02:31:30,899
interesting that were found in
atom lenses room are documents

2385
02:31:30,899 --> 02:31:35,489
about child abuse, how to live
with child abuse this who knows

2386
02:31:35,489 --> 02:31:39,239
what man who knows what may have
been going on at the school or

2387
02:31:39,239 --> 02:31:42,089
in this community and what this
kid was really doing you know

2388
02:31:42,089 --> 02:31:48,719
there's a number was a Dunblane
were the were the to have the

2389
02:31:48,749 --> 02:31:51,869
the Boomtown Rats song I don't
like Mondays thing was Dunblane

2390
02:31:52,529 --> 02:31:55,709
where the now years later the
story comes out that there was

2391
02:31:55,709 --> 02:31:59,189
child abuse going on at this
school. And you know, the guy

2392
02:31:59,189 --> 02:32:02,039
went in he said he'd rather kill
the children and put them out of

2393
02:32:02,039 --> 02:32:06,329
their misery than be abused by
whatever pedo bear ring was, was

2394
02:32:06,329 --> 02:32:10,019
in this community. This is an
angle that that I don't have

2395
02:32:10,019 --> 02:32:14,519
time for it. But it shouldn't it
should be looked into. Well,

2396
02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:17,250
you know that you have to wonder
why the school had that weird

2397
02:32:17,250 --> 02:32:22,260
locked down prison like quality?
Because it had you know, a

2398
02:32:22,260 --> 02:32:24,480
locked door in the front. You
couldn't just wander in like

2399
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:26,820
normal schools, you can if
you're a parent, you just go in

2400
02:32:26,850 --> 02:32:27,150
is that

2401
02:32:27,299 --> 02:32:29,999
is that to lock people out? Or
to lock people in? You've always

2402
02:32:29,999 --> 02:32:31,019
got a question that,

2403
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:34,470
well, there you go, it could be
either way, probably both. And

2404
02:32:34,470 --> 02:32:38,010
then you tear the school down
completely. Because where

2405
02:32:38,010 --> 02:32:41,670
they're gone is gone. What's it
what was in there, were there.

2406
02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:44,640
If you're going to bring it go
into the direction you're headed

2407
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:48,330
here? Were there certain kinds
of chains and things where they

2408
02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:53,190
hang the kids from your arms or
with them? I mean, you could

2409
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:55,710
have been a bunch of dungeons in
there for all you know,

2410
02:32:55,740 --> 02:33:01,350
which is, you know, look at the
Isle of Jersey, at the at the

2411
02:33:01,650 --> 02:33:05,130
hospice there. I mean, it's all
this really happens people.

2412
02:33:05,849 --> 02:33:08,909
Yeah, it does happen. And then
he had that odd situation where

2413
02:33:08,909 --> 02:33:12,809
the kids formed a ring in front
of some guy's house and they

2414
02:33:12,809 --> 02:33:15,269
were just sitting there chanting
or something and we don't even

2415
02:33:15,269 --> 02:33:18,239
know what that that was all
about. And then there's the this

2416
02:33:18,239 --> 02:33:21,809
whole story I think, I think you
hit the nail on the head. This

2417
02:33:21,809 --> 02:33:23,249
story stinks.

2418
02:33:23,879 --> 02:33:27,809
So another thing you can't do
with the Compress report is you

2419
02:33:27,809 --> 02:33:32,489
can't do markups unless I guess
you'd buy some other tool from

2420
02:33:32,489 --> 02:33:38,579
Adobe. So I made a couple
snapshots everything by the way

2421
02:33:38,579 --> 02:33:44,849
is redacted. It's it's it's
really useless as you would get

2422
02:33:44,849 --> 02:33:48,899
the word it's pretty used here
this example classroom restroom

2423
02:33:48,899 --> 02:33:54,989
door lock exterior, but it's not
the door lock. It's examples you

2424
02:33:54,989 --> 02:34:06,419
know, which is done at like Home
Depot. Then the you know, where

2425
02:34:06,419 --> 02:34:11,729
is Ryan Lanza? Is he are he and
Adam Lanza the same person?

2426
02:34:12,809 --> 02:34:17,279
There's, there's so many open
questions, so many men, you

2427
02:34:17,279 --> 02:34:20,279
know, I think I've given a lot
of markups in the in the

2428
02:34:20,279 --> 02:34:25,349
documents. But there's also, you
know, the, as you pointed out

2429
02:34:25,349 --> 02:34:27,539
the tearing down of the school,
and then there's the lawyer

2430
02:34:27,659 --> 02:34:35,069
Monty Frank. This is he's a
lawyer for the Newtown victims

2431
02:34:35,069 --> 02:34:38,579
Association, I believe, none of
these so called Foundations, I

2432
02:34:38,579 --> 02:34:43,739
can't find them. In GuideStar
can't find their 5013 c status.

2433
02:34:43,739 --> 02:34:46,919
You know, it's all maybe they
had never filed maybe, you know,

2434
02:34:46,919 --> 02:34:49,829
they'd be late for the 2012
filing by now, but okay, you

2435
02:34:49,829 --> 02:34:50,939
know, I just can't find it.

2436
02:34:51,240 --> 02:34:53,940
Yeah, I would be concerned about
that. And I also understand

2437
02:34:53,940 --> 02:34:57,480
that, you know, there there are
some efforts in the journalism

2438
02:34:57,480 --> 02:35:01,230
community to try to release the
rest of the information in the

2439
02:35:01,350 --> 02:35:03,360
interest of public attention.

2440
02:35:03,420 --> 02:35:06,450
Yeah, because we're missing some
vital points. We're missing the

2441
02:35:06,450 --> 02:35:09,930
police timeline. We're missing

2442
02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:13,710
that let you redact the
timeline? Well, because

2443
02:35:13,739 --> 02:35:14,999
there's something to hide

2444
02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:18,660
to be brought to tell everything
that happened. Do you see that

2445
02:35:18,660 --> 02:35:21,360
as being an effective tool? Is
that something that the general

2446
02:35:21,360 --> 02:35:24,660
public really should know the
full scope of the investigation?

2447
02:35:25,260 --> 02:35:28,260
Well, isn't this the most
transparent administration in

2448
02:35:28,260 --> 02:35:28,890
history?

2449
02:35:29,969 --> 02:35:33,509
I don't think so. You know,
there needs to be a balance

2450
02:35:33,509 --> 02:35:38,969
between first amendment rights,
people's curiosity, and the

2451
02:35:38,969 --> 02:35:43,619
rights of the community isn't
really all that important that

2452
02:35:43,619 --> 02:35:48,419
the details of what occurred at
the school come out? Yeah. When

2453
02:35:48,449 --> 02:35:51,959
it's only going to serve to
again, hinder the healing

2454
02:35:51,959 --> 02:35:55,829
process and the town caused
people in the town to have to

2455
02:35:56,249 --> 02:36:01,439
block out media. You know,
today, we had media trucks and

2456
02:36:01,439 --> 02:36:04,229
helicopters hovering in town,
and that only serves as a

2457
02:36:04,229 --> 02:36:07,559
reminder of what occurred back
in December.

2458
02:36:07,589 --> 02:36:09,689
Yeah, I think it's very
important that we know exactly

2459
02:36:09,689 --> 02:36:14,039
what happened particularly if
you listen to Dr. Drew. Now this

2460
02:36:14,039 --> 02:36:19,889
is not Dr. Drew on HLN. This is
Dr. Drew on love lines, or I

2461
02:36:19,889 --> 02:36:23,279
think maybe the podcast I don't
know, because he's dropping F

2462
02:36:23,279 --> 02:36:28,199
bombs and stuff. Dr. Drew is the
spokes hole now for the war on

2463
02:36:28,199 --> 02:36:33,569
crazy. And he wants to I think
he essentially wants HIPAA to be

2464
02:36:33,569 --> 02:36:38,489
amended or or struck down so
that a doctor who feels that you

2465
02:36:38,489 --> 02:36:42,359
know, you may be a danger. For
whatever reason, you know, that

2466
02:36:42,359 --> 02:36:45,389
you can just basically be
committed by well by Dr. Drew

2467
02:36:45,420 --> 02:36:48,840
both that guy at Virginia Tech
and the kid in Aurora, Colorado

2468
02:36:48,840 --> 02:36:52,050
and just about and the kid in
Connecticut all had

2469
02:36:52,050 --> 02:36:55,380
psychiatrists worsening mental
health, who couldn't fucking do

2470
02:36:55,380 --> 02:36:58,320
their job because their rights
and privileges couldn't be

2471
02:36:58,350 --> 02:37:00,900
infringed upon. You understand?
Yes,

2472
02:37:00,930 --> 02:37:04,230
you understand my views are oh,
so this is interesting. Dr.

2473
02:37:04,230 --> 02:37:06,600
Drew's angry about people having
rights. Alright, so

2474
02:37:06,599 --> 02:37:11,009
here's what happened. He was on
a held hold psychotic, in a

2475
02:37:11,009 --> 02:37:15,839
hospital, released on a bunch of
meds Prozac, one of them was

2476
02:37:15,869 --> 02:37:19,889
allowed to return to school was
mandated to follow up, nobody

2477
02:37:19,889 --> 02:37:23,279
checked. So here's the deal. The
school should be held

2478
02:37:23,279 --> 02:37:26,339
accountable, like hey, you have
a chronic severe psychiatric

2479
02:37:26,339 --> 02:37:29,579
illness which impairs you and
endangers your safety and the

2480
02:37:29,579 --> 02:37:32,939
communities in order to enrol
this school we need weekly to be

2481
02:37:32,939 --> 02:37:35,909
able to see you're taking your
meds or at least monthly sure

2482
02:37:35,909 --> 02:37:39,449
else you're not enrolled here
just nothing cannot infringe on

2483
02:37:39,449 --> 02:37:39,929
those freedoms.

2484
02:37:40,289 --> 02:37:44,459
Nice so so we need the doctor
Drew was saying that you know,

2485
02:37:44,459 --> 02:37:48,599
of course we have 20% of all the
kids on drugs we have the school

2486
02:37:48,599 --> 02:37:52,229
has to check. The training
facility will check to make sure

2487
02:37:52,229 --> 02:37:55,349
you took your meds which is
exactly what they do in jail.

2488
02:37:56,279 --> 02:38:00,539
And he's complaining that people
have rights that don't allow

2489
02:38:00,539 --> 02:38:03,059
this to happen. Well if you
remember that's the fight I got

2490
02:38:03,059 --> 02:38:06,269
into a John fabro that gave me
that panic attack back right. He

2491
02:38:06,269 --> 02:38:08,159
was talking to a guy like your
brother he goes don't let

2492
02:38:08,189 --> 02:38:11,039
anybody tell you you should take
meds I was like, whoa,

2493
02:38:11,129 --> 02:38:15,149
hold on. You're in danger. I
can't allow you to say that we

2494
02:38:15,149 --> 02:38:18,449
got each other's face over and
really Yeah, cuz it really got

2495
02:38:18,449 --> 02:38:20,549
me it's like you weren't you
weren't endangering somebody's

2496
02:38:20,549 --> 02:38:22,049
life or the Who the fuck are
you?

2497
02:38:23,159 --> 02:38:28,109
There it is. Dr. Drew wants to
drug you make sure you're taking

2498
02:38:28,109 --> 02:38:30,299
the drugs and lock you up

2499
02:38:32,639 --> 02:38:34,199
well, there you go. There you
have it.

2500
02:38:34,290 --> 02:38:36,270
This guy's a danger to society.

2501
02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:43,140
That guy's the guy should be
locked up apparently. There's a

2502
02:38:43,140 --> 02:38:46,320
couple of interesting reports
showed up on Democracy Now I

2503
02:38:46,320 --> 02:38:49,710
thought was interesting. Is of
course this is like one of

2504
02:38:49,710 --> 02:38:50,130
those.

2505
02:38:50,429 --> 02:38:52,319
Watch that I can't watch it.

2506
02:38:53,370 --> 02:38:56,070
Right now. You can watch it but
the clip I took I left in a

2507
02:38:56,070 --> 02:38:58,890
little bit of the music so you
could listen to Amy back now.

2508
02:38:59,219 --> 02:39:02,639
She recommends. Where's Amy
today?

2509
02:39:03,059 --> 02:39:06,749
So it'd be here. Here's what the
thing is. This is like one of

2510
02:39:06,749 --> 02:39:11,039
these although some lawyers are
crooked. Oh, milk goes bad if

2511
02:39:11,039 --> 02:39:14,639
you leave it out kind of
stories. But it's still this is

2512
02:39:14,639 --> 02:39:16,379
corporate espionage part one.

2513
02:39:24,570 --> 02:39:27,330
pasca live I Spy This is
Democracy.

2514
02:39:29,459 --> 02:39:35,519
Eyes. Bye. Great. She's really
good at that. Just play that

2515
02:39:35,519 --> 02:39:37,799
again. That was good. I'm glad
you did that. That's very nice.

2516
02:39:39,419 --> 02:39:41,459
Everybody is 100 with Amy
Goodman asks

2517
02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:49,710
Kyle paska love I spy. This is
Democracy Now. democracynow.org

2518
02:39:49,710 --> 02:39:51,870
The War and Peace Report. I'm
Amy Goodman, as we turned to

2519
02:39:51,870 --> 02:39:52,260
does that

2520
02:39:52,260 --> 02:39:54,840
well, too. This is Democracy
democracy now.org The War and

2521
02:39:54,840 --> 02:39:56,940
Peace Report. Hey everybody,
it's one.

2522
02:39:58,170 --> 02:40:01,650
I don't have it on the show. But
I have a clip buffer a prattling

2523
02:40:01,650 --> 02:40:04,980
off the end at the end being
really really late in it but

2524
02:40:04,980 --> 02:40:08,190
it's still having to announce
some people's names. Yeah, she

2525
02:40:08,190 --> 02:40:12,000
is a world beater in terms of
fast talker

2526
02:40:12,030 --> 02:40:15,330
she should do like a time and
temperature check at this.

2527
02:40:15,780 --> 02:40:19,260
Everybody remarks not democracy
dot democracy now.org War and

2528
02:40:19,260 --> 02:40:22,440
Peace Report 145 35 degrees here
in Washington DC

2529
02:40:23,010 --> 02:40:26,010
now democracynow.org The War and
Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman,

2530
02:40:26,010 --> 02:40:28,650
as we turned to a new report
detailing how corporations are

2531
02:40:28,650 --> 02:40:33,090
increasingly spying on nonprofit
groups that they regard as

2532
02:40:33,090 --> 02:40:37,230
potential threats. The reports
called spooky business corporate

2533
02:40:37,230 --> 02:40:40,320
espionage against nonprofit
organisations who was released

2534
02:40:40,320 --> 02:40:42,900
by the corporate watchdog group
essential information. The

2535
02:40:42,900 --> 02:40:47,070
report found a diverse group of
nonprofits have been targeted

2536
02:40:47,070 --> 02:40:49,710
with espionage including
environmental anti war, public

2537
02:40:49,710 --> 02:40:52,590
interest, consumer safety,
pesticide reform, gun control,

2538
02:40:52,590 --> 02:40:55,650
social justice, animal rights
and arms control groups the

2539
02:40:55,650 --> 02:41:00,150
corporation's carrying out the
spying include the US Chamber of

2540
02:41:00,150 --> 02:41:05,190
Commerce, Walmart, Monsanto,
Bank of America, Dow Chemical,

2541
02:41:05,220 --> 02:41:09,090
Kraft, Coca Cola, Chevron,
Burger King, McDonald's, Shell,

2542
02:41:09,090 --> 02:41:12,510
BP and others. According to that
report, these corporations

2543
02:41:12,510 --> 02:41:17,100
employ former CIA, NSA and FBI
agents to engage in private

2544
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:19,710
surveillance work, which is
often illegal in nature, but

2545
02:41:19,710 --> 02:41:21,270
rarely if ever prosecuted.

2546
02:41:23,340 --> 02:41:28,890
Oh, hold on a second. Hold on a
second, Mr. Dvorak. I think

2547
02:41:28,890 --> 02:41:32,640
without a doubt clip,

2548
02:41:33,690 --> 02:41:35,520
not even close to being a good
clip.

2549
02:41:36,120 --> 02:41:40,050
It's a great clip when he talks
about it solidifies the theory

2550
02:41:40,050 --> 02:41:45,750
completely. That the NSA is just
spying fall.

2551
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:50,460
Yeah, they're right there on.
Right, are Bedwell blackmail to

2552
02:41:51,120 --> 02:41:54,120
there was a heck some clip there
was about blackmail. That was

2553
02:41:54,150 --> 02:41:55,320
What's this? What's this? Number
two,

2554
02:41:55,350 --> 02:41:58,140
this is a long one. The number
two is a guy this is the guy was

2555
02:41:58,140 --> 02:42:03,690
long because this this Hummer,
who's more of an I mean, I'll

2556
02:42:03,690 --> 02:42:05,880
ring the bell a few times. But
it's just like it's out of

2557
02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:09,090
control, is the guy who's partly
responsible for doing the

2558
02:42:09,090 --> 02:42:12,240
report, I think is by lines on
it. We weren't as long.

2559
02:42:13,889 --> 02:42:16,649
Or we go to California, where
we're joined by their person or

2560
02:42:16,799 --> 02:42:20,129
the report's author, Gary
Raskin. He's the director of the

2561
02:42:20,129 --> 02:42:22,679
Centre for corporate policy, a
project of essential

2562
02:42:22,679 --> 02:42:26,099
information. Gary, welcome back
to Democracy Now. Explain what

2563
02:42:26,099 --> 02:42:26,969
you found.

2564
02:42:28,500 --> 02:42:30,960
Thanks for having me on the show
again, Amy. Yeah, we found a

2565
02:42:30,960 --> 02:42:33,870
tremendous diversity of
corporate espionage being

2566
02:42:33,870 --> 02:42:36,810
conducted against a wide variety
of civic groups across the

2567
02:42:36,810 --> 02:42:41,250
country in the UK, a case in
Ecuador and in France as well.

2568
02:42:41,250 --> 02:42:45,780
So what we found was a
tremendous variety of use of

2569
02:42:45,780 --> 02:42:49,800
different kinds of types of
espionage tactics, from dumpster

2570
02:42:49,800 --> 02:42:53,760
diving, to hiring investigators
to pose as journalists or

2571
02:42:53,760 --> 02:42:57,690
volunteers to electronic
espionage information warfare,

2572
02:42:57,990 --> 02:43:04,530
Information Operations, hacking,
electronic surveillance. And so

2573
02:43:04,830 --> 02:43:10,410
this appears to be a growing
phenomenon, both here in the

2574
02:43:10,410 --> 02:43:14,100
United States and maybe in other
parts of the world as well. But

2575
02:43:14,310 --> 02:43:18,120
our report is, is an effort to
document something that it's

2576
02:43:18,120 --> 02:43:20,760
very hard to know very much
about. We aggregated 30

2577
02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:24,120
different cases of corporate
espionage, to try to talk about

2578
02:43:24,120 --> 02:43:27,360
them, but really each of the
cases we have very fragmentary

2579
02:43:27,360 --> 02:43:31,590
information and so it's hard to
say what how we have what we

2580
02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:33,840
have as a part of the iceberg
whether it's the tip of the

2581
02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:36,930
iceberg or the tippy tip of the
iceberg. We don't really know

2582
02:43:36,930 --> 02:43:39,360
sorry, let's go to 2000. We know
that really,

2583
02:43:39,390 --> 02:43:40,260
Gary, You're boring

2584
02:43:40,260 --> 02:43:43,710
me peace files a federal lawsuit
against Dow Chemical and SASL

2585
02:43:43,710 --> 02:43:46,590
North America for engaging in
corporate espionage. The lawsuit

2586
02:43:46,590 --> 02:43:50,460
allege corporate spies stole
1000s of confidential documents

2587
02:43:50,460 --> 02:43:53,220
from Greenpeace including
campaign plans, employee

2588
02:43:53,220 --> 02:43:56,550
records, phone records, donor
and media less. Democracy Now

2589
02:43:56,550 --> 02:43:58,800
spoke to Charlie Cray, the
senior researcher with

2590
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:01,560
Greenpeace USA at the time he
explained what happened.

2591
02:44:02,190 --> 02:44:05,610
TBI, the defunct private
investigation firm hired

2592
02:44:05,610 --> 02:44:10,590
subcontractors including off
duty police officers who went

2593
02:44:10,590 --> 02:44:15,720
through Greenpeace's trash to
find useful documents on a

2594
02:44:15,720 --> 02:44:20,280
regular basis over two years.
They did this almost twice a

2595
02:44:20,280 --> 02:44:27,210
week. On average. They also use
subcontractors who had

2596
02:44:28,290 --> 02:44:31,320
colleagues who attempted to
infiltrate Greenpeace as

2597
02:44:31,320 --> 02:44:36,930
volunteers they cased the
Greenpeace office looking for we

2598
02:44:36,930 --> 02:44:39,750
don't know what but probably
doing advanced scouting for

2599
02:44:39,750 --> 02:44:43,380
people who would then intrude
upon the property. We found a

2600
02:44:43,380 --> 02:44:48,270
list of door codes we found a
folder that said wiretap info,

2601
02:44:48,540 --> 02:44:52,800
which was empty. You know what's
irritating again about this John

2602
02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:56,730
The Centre for corporate policy
as to according to their

2603
02:44:56,730 --> 02:44:59,970
website, nonprofit, nonpartisan
public interest. Org

2604
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,750
monetisation nowhere to be found
with their nonprofit

2605
02:45:04,770 --> 02:45:09,060
information. There's no Nam
there's no for 990 information.

2606
02:45:09,090 --> 02:45:13,320
There's no nothing there's no
entry. Yeah, that's annoying.

2607
02:45:13,439 --> 02:45:17,009
Well, you're sure that's not
essential information.org And

2608
02:45:17,009 --> 02:45:20,879
there's just as you know, they
would be under that. Well, then

2609
02:45:20,879 --> 02:45:24,299
essential information.org has
been around way too long to not

2610
02:45:24,299 --> 02:45:25,349
have a 990

2611
02:45:26,159 --> 02:45:30,479
Oh, essential information. Well,
then they're, they're being

2612
02:45:30,479 --> 02:45:33,419
sketchy at best. Well listen to
more of this guy. And I'll look

2613
02:45:33,419 --> 02:45:37,019
this up. We know this company
has subcontracted with a company

2614
02:45:37,019 --> 02:45:42,299
called Netsafe, which is a
company that was made of former

2615
02:45:42,449 --> 02:45:45,899
NSA officials skilled and
computer hacking and things like

2616
02:45:45,899 --> 02:45:49,829
that. So we really don't know
the full extent of this. But

2617
02:45:49,829 --> 02:45:54,479
what we've seen is incredibly
shocking. And our goal is to

2618
02:45:54,479 --> 02:45:58,889
bring this out into the light of
day and to stop it if it's still

2619
02:45:58,889 --> 02:45:59,609
going on. Yeah, it

2620
02:45:59,609 --> 02:46:02,039
was Charlie Cray, senior
researcher with Greenpeace, USA,

2621
02:46:02,039 --> 02:46:04,529
Gary Ruskin, if you could
respond to that, and then go on

2622
02:46:04,529 --> 02:46:07,769
to talk about Walmart and up
against the wall. The non

2623
02:46:07,769 --> 02:46:09,329
nonprofit organisation is good

2624
02:46:09,329 --> 02:46:11,549
enough, you can kill it. I'm
getting tired of it.

2625
02:46:13,529 --> 02:46:17,339
Essentially, the way that
apparently this is, you know, I

2626
02:46:17,339 --> 02:46:20,369
guess the NSA trains people in
when they quit the NSA to go off

2627
02:46:20,369 --> 02:46:23,729
becomes country. This is all
that's going on. It's

2628
02:46:23,730 --> 02:46:27,030
Moonlighting, it's like, like,
hey, it's five o'clock. I'm

2629
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:28,050
going home. What are you doing?

2630
02:46:28,109 --> 02:46:31,019
She's probably pretty cool
moonlighting job. Yeah, come

2631
02:46:31,019 --> 02:46:35,189
back to the office and look
stuff up. Yeah. But a lot of

2632
02:46:35,189 --> 02:46:35,999
police do.

2633
02:46:36,059 --> 02:46:43,469
Yeah, absolutely. It's, well, of
course, we had the news come out

2634
02:46:43,469 --> 02:46:49,229
that the NSA apparently
collected information on porn

2635
02:46:49,559 --> 02:46:51,149
site activity.

2636
02:46:51,419 --> 02:46:53,879
Oh, yeah. You go to a porn site.
You're now in the yard. Now in

2637
02:46:53,879 --> 02:46:55,049
the box. Here's

2638
02:46:55,049 --> 02:47:03,719
what's interesting. The NSA is
in this regard using what would

2639
02:47:03,719 --> 02:47:10,739
the term be using behavioural
patterns to discredit them is no

2640
02:47:10,739 --> 02:47:13,169
different than what Glenn
Greenwald does on a regular

2641
02:47:13,169 --> 02:47:20,249
basis to politicians that
Republicans specifically he

2642
02:47:20,249 --> 02:47:26,429
attorney write a book even about
how to face the Republican Party

2643
02:47:26,429 --> 02:47:30,119
is because the Republicans talk
a big game, but they have gay

2644
02:47:30,119 --> 02:47:36,539
sex and man whores and all kinds
of crazy shit. It's the same.

2645
02:47:36,569 --> 02:47:37,889
It's the same idea.

2646
02:47:37,950 --> 02:47:41,520
Yes, where there's an
attraction. Right? But so for

2647
02:47:41,520 --> 02:47:41,730
him

2648
02:47:41,730 --> 02:47:44,250
to publish this as you know,
like, Oh, look at it, you know,

2649
02:47:44,250 --> 02:47:45,720
it's like you do the same thing?

2650
02:47:46,200 --> 02:47:49,350
Yeah, no, that's the joke of it.
The whole thing is a big farce.

2651
02:47:50,219 --> 02:47:54,089
And I'm getting really tired of
the drips and drabs, you know,

2652
02:47:54,089 --> 02:47:57,599
the WikiLeaks is even getting in
Greenwald's face a little bit

2653
02:47:57,599 --> 02:48:04,049
about how, if I see one more
report that says Edward Snowden,

2654
02:48:04,049 --> 02:48:07,859
who released the documents in
the wild to the world, I'm gonna

2655
02:48:07,859 --> 02:48:11,759
puke. And these are like big
mainstream publications that

2656
02:48:11,759 --> 02:48:15,269
keep repeating this farce over
and over again.

2657
02:48:15,479 --> 02:48:19,829
So the New York Times got a copy
of this whole pile, just Sure.

2658
02:48:19,829 --> 02:48:22,139
Remember, when the Guardian was
going to hit it, had the guys

2659
02:48:22,139 --> 02:48:25,919
come in and bust up the hard
disks? Yep. They sent a copy of

2660
02:48:25,919 --> 02:48:28,559
The New York Times for
safekeeping, which is what

2661
02:48:28,589 --> 02:48:31,409
dunkel Don should do, by the
way, not to the New York Times.

2662
02:48:32,219 --> 02:48:38,969
And so, my friend Markoff was in
New York when the thing was

2663
02:48:38,999 --> 02:48:42,389
still a secret. I think most
people know it's there now. And

2664
02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:45,839
he was allowed to, apparently
everybody would just like a line

2665
02:48:45,839 --> 02:48:47,999
of reporters that all wanted to
look at this thing.

2666
02:48:48,299 --> 02:48:53,609
So the women this is the 50,000
or maybe 200,000. Yeah, really?

2667
02:48:53,849 --> 02:48:55,589
Yeah. Okay,

2668
02:48:55,950 --> 02:49:01,380
so he says one of the reasons
this stuff may be leaking out

2669
02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:05,760
shortly, it's actually a huge
document, a big giant database

2670
02:49:05,970 --> 02:49:10,800
with a really crappy search
engine. Yeah. Which apparently

2671
02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:13,560
is the only thing you can use to
access it because it's all this

2672
02:49:13,560 --> 02:49:14,550
you know, kind of like a

2673
02:49:14,550 --> 02:49:17,280
binary file or something that's
like a big binary a bunch of

2674
02:49:17,280 --> 02:49:17,820
crap.

2675
02:49:18,210 --> 02:49:22,740
So it's just like all hash code
shit. So yeah, he says It took

2676
02:49:22,740 --> 02:49:26,130
him about he was he got in he
got his moment where he could

2677
02:49:26,130 --> 02:49:29,400
look something just do some fool
around, look at the look at the

2678
02:49:29,400 --> 02:49:32,550
document. So then, of course,
what did i What did you find

2679
02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:36,180
out? I must have had some cool
stuff in there. He says it took

2680
02:49:36,180 --> 02:49:41,370
him six hours to find one thing
that wasn't even interesting. He

2681
02:49:41,370 --> 02:49:45,540
says he could not find anything.
The thing was, is a fiasco.

2682
02:49:46,440 --> 02:49:50,880
Interesting now do you think
that this is what maybe that's

2683
02:49:50,880 --> 02:49:54,330
just what the times was given
and that that there is

2684
02:49:54,510 --> 02:49:59,970
individual copies available on
the in the Berlin cabal of mine

2685
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,080
thinking, yeah, he didn't have a
theory. But my thing would be

2686
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:08,490
the following, which is that
it's a you get the pile of crap

2687
02:50:08,490 --> 02:50:12,870
with a search engine. And then
you are given a series of

2688
02:50:12,930 --> 02:50:16,740
specific codes to type in, which
will take you to specific

2689
02:50:16,740 --> 02:50:19,470
documents that you can then ah,

2690
02:50:19,500 --> 02:50:21,510
well, that would make sense
because there's so you'd have a

2691
02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:25,350
key. Yeah, there's no way that
Glenn Greenwald would let the

2692
02:50:25,350 --> 02:50:28,350
New York Times have that or
anybody, because that's how he's

2693
02:50:28,350 --> 02:50:30,600
going to become rich. That's how
that's what his movie is going

2694
02:50:30,600 --> 02:50:35,430
to be based on his book. That's
why the PIO Pierre Omidyar is

2695
02:50:35,430 --> 02:50:37,770
putting money into it because
there's monetization.

2696
02:50:38,190 --> 02:50:42,000
Yeah, my thinking was a document
that times had is the document

2697
02:50:42,030 --> 02:50:46,740
with the search engine but no
code. So Reuters, which means

2698
02:50:46,740 --> 02:50:49,020
you get it back if the rest of
them are destroyed, and you can

2699
02:50:49,020 --> 02:50:51,030
still find your stuff because
you had the keys.

2700
02:50:51,930 --> 02:50:55,200
Reuters has this to say British,
British and US intelligence

2701
02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:58,680
officials say they are worried
about a quote doomsday cache of

2702
02:50:58,680 --> 02:51:01,770
highly classified heavily
encrypted material they believe

2703
02:51:01,770 --> 02:51:04,650
former National Security Agency
contractor Edward Snowden has

2704
02:51:04,650 --> 02:51:08,730
stored on a Data Cloud. The
cache contains documents joined

2705
02:51:08,730 --> 02:51:11,430
by the NSA and other agencies
includes names of US and allied

2706
02:51:11,430 --> 02:51:14,910
intelligence personnel. Seven
current and former US officials

2707
02:51:14,910 --> 02:51:18,480
and other sources briefed on the
matter said, Of course, no,

2708
02:51:18,510 --> 02:51:21,120
these days no have anyone no one
talks publicly, there's it's

2709
02:51:21,120 --> 02:51:24,780
always sources, the data is
protected with sophisticated

2710
02:51:24,780 --> 02:51:27,570
encryption and multiple
passwords are needed to open it

2711
02:51:27,630 --> 02:51:30,960
say two of the sources who like
the other spoke on condition of

2712
02:51:30,960 --> 02:51:34,980
anonymity, anonymity to discuss
intelligence matters, the

2713
02:51:34,980 --> 02:51:37,080
passwords are in the possession
of at least three different

2714
02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:41,250
people and are valid for only a
brief time window each day. A

2715
02:51:41,250 --> 02:51:44,970
lot of information here for
something that is, you know,

2716
02:51:44,970 --> 02:51:46,350
that no one can talk about?

2717
02:51:48,450 --> 02:51:51,000
Yeah, but it does give you some
indication of the way it's, it's

2718
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:55,170
established is it this is like,
you have all this stuff, but

2719
02:51:57,060 --> 02:52:01,200
it's like, is this useless? I
mean, it's a just generally

2720
02:52:01,200 --> 02:52:05,100
useless but you with your keys
or codes I can get to the

2721
02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:08,160
specific places probably can
make it useful. This is like,

2722
02:52:08,610 --> 02:52:11,190
you know, taking an encrypted
hard disk and just taking the

2723
02:52:11,190 --> 02:52:12,270
data off as you can,

2724
02:52:12,540 --> 02:52:15,600
is useless. But you know, I
don't like this I,

2725
02:52:15,719 --> 02:52:18,059
I really don't either. The whole
thing is fishy. It's

2726
02:52:18,090 --> 02:52:21,600
well, it's not just fishy, it's
wrong. There's information that

2727
02:52:21,630 --> 02:52:28,170
that is available, and as being
kept. Because what I'm not smart

2728
02:52:28,170 --> 02:52:31,560
enough to read through a
document, I beg to differ. I

2729
02:52:31,560 --> 02:52:34,650
think I am smart enough to dig
to dig through something and

2730
02:52:34,650 --> 02:52:38,550
to know you can only look at
slide 57 Yeah, you

2731
02:52:38,549 --> 02:52:43,169
know so Who died and made these
guys God that they can only that

2732
02:52:43,169 --> 02:52:44,999
they're the only and why and by
the way, why isn't the

2733
02:52:44,999 --> 02:52:49,469
government killing them? That's
obvious. It's all one game.

2734
02:52:49,469 --> 02:52:53,879
They're all on the same team. If
Glenn Greenwald really mean we

2735
02:52:53,879 --> 02:52:58,379
kill people for nothing. They we
drunk people because they have a

2736
02:52:58,379 --> 02:53:03,569
signature of a terrorist. And
we're not going to kill Glenn

2737
02:53:03,569 --> 02:53:08,009
Greenwald, who holds the secret
to all of our national security,

2738
02:53:08,519 --> 02:53:09,389
please.

2739
02:53:10,740 --> 02:53:12,750
Yeah, no, it doesn't make any
sense at all.

2740
02:53:13,229 --> 02:53:15,839
His book was great American
hypocrites, by the way, toppling

2741
02:53:15,839 --> 02:53:18,869
the big myths of Republican
politics, where he does the same

2742
02:53:18,869 --> 02:53:21,449
as what the NSA was doing
purportedly was doing with the

2743
02:53:21,449 --> 02:53:25,019
terrorist. Yeah, yeah. So I
would like to know if my porn is

2744
02:53:25,019 --> 02:53:28,499
being my porn habits are being
tracked. Sure. And I'd like

2745
02:53:28,499 --> 02:53:31,169
that. Yeah. Okay. It's easy to
say yes. But I don't want Glenn

2746
02:53:31,169 --> 02:53:34,409
Greenwald to appear on the door
or anyone to be in charge of it.

2747
02:53:34,829 --> 02:53:37,019
And anyone who joins that
organisation as a true

2748
02:53:37,019 --> 02:53:40,979
journalist should be ashamed of
themselves. But you're all

2749
02:53:41,009 --> 02:53:44,339
whacking off in your circle jerk
about how cool it is, and how

2750
02:53:44,339 --> 02:53:46,889
much money you're gonna make you
sad money

2751
02:53:46,890 --> 02:53:50,310
from all mudhar sad and pathetic
article and OMA jar which by the

2752
02:53:50,310 --> 02:53:53,790
way, which I read after the last
show and put a link to it in the

2753
02:53:53,790 --> 02:53:56,880
last newsletters letter. Yeah,
is great. Here's another one

2754
02:53:56,880 --> 02:53:59,610
because these guys Winston is by
the way, they run that article

2755
02:53:59,610 --> 02:54:01,860
and Omidyar the next thing you
know, that thing is shuttered.

2756
02:54:02,010 --> 02:54:02,670
You think that's

2757
02:54:03,420 --> 02:54:08,520
so but now they're a part of get
this panto daily which is insane

2758
02:54:08,520 --> 02:54:11,370
because Pando daily to me is a
big joke, but now they're

2759
02:54:11,370 --> 02:54:14,550
public, the same people
published another article.

2760
02:54:17,820 --> 02:54:23,130
keeping secrets on a second,
which is really quite damning.

2761
02:54:24,090 --> 02:54:28,560
Give you the title, it's the
same guy from over to NSFW Corp.

2762
02:54:28,740 --> 02:54:32,760
Mark aims keeping secrets appear
on me Dr. Glenn Greenwald and

2763
02:54:32,760 --> 02:54:36,990
the private privatisation of
Snowdens leaks is a good

2764
02:54:36,990 --> 02:54:41,970
article. Definitely something
and it kind of goes into you

2765
02:54:41,970 --> 02:54:46,890
know, how other whistleblowers
have really let all the

2766
02:54:46,890 --> 02:54:50,820
documents out, you know, they
really Daniel Ellsberg, you

2767
02:54:50,820 --> 02:54:55,200
know, the documents were
available. And this is just not

2768
02:54:55,200 --> 02:54:58,680
the case. And everything that
comes out is one page. It's

2769
02:54:58,680 --> 02:55:04,170
redacted. I mean come on. When
will people see this for what it

2770
02:55:04,170 --> 02:55:07,920
is? Maybe never whatever will
see it and whatever comes out

2771
02:55:07,920 --> 02:55:10,140
we'll continue to continue to
bitch

2772
02:55:10,140 --> 02:55:13,800
and moan that apparently has to
be an amaz show

2773
02:55:14,520 --> 02:55:17,670
bitch and moan everybody know
but I like doing it I like I

2774
02:55:17,670 --> 02:55:23,310
like going through documents I
mean no one on mainstream news

2775
02:55:23,310 --> 02:55:26,790
media will tell you that there's
inconclusive evidence on the

2776
02:55:26,790 --> 02:55:31,050
Sandy Hook ballistics report
completely inconclusive on all

2777
02:55:31,050 --> 02:55:31,980
ballistics.

2778
02:55:32,309 --> 02:55:38,249
Yeah, that's unbelievable that
low so one another thing that

2779
02:55:38,249 --> 02:55:42,959
got my attention I want to get
it out of the way is the Chinese

2780
02:55:42,989 --> 02:55:45,569
came out with it. You see or
hear this story about the

2781
02:55:45,569 --> 02:55:49,169
Chinese extending their rights
to defend their territory,

2782
02:55:49,169 --> 02:55:51,659
pastels. Stupid islands. Yeah,
they

2783
02:55:51,660 --> 02:55:55,620
just they drew a line on Google
Maps and said, yeah, don't cross

2784
02:55:55,620 --> 02:55:57,300
it. And then we flew across it.

2785
02:55:57,660 --> 02:56:00,900
Yeah, but we what cracks me up
it really listen to this report.

2786
02:56:00,900 --> 02:56:05,340
I think this was on van cat. And
this is we flew to be 50 twos. I

2787
02:56:05,340 --> 02:56:07,290
didn't even know we flow the
fluids anymore. But we had a

2788
02:56:07,290 --> 02:56:10,530
couple of over the area we're
supposed to check in. And I did

2789
02:56:10,530 --> 02:56:13,500
decided not to just to see what
would happen. And there's a

2790
02:56:13,500 --> 02:56:15,300
little ironic twist of this.

2791
02:56:15,540 --> 02:56:19,380
This concerns to Beijing. The US
Vice President will confront

2792
02:56:19,380 --> 02:56:22,500
Chinese leaders next week about
their decision to expand the

2793
02:56:22,500 --> 02:56:25,950
country's air defence zone to
include two disputed islands in

2794
02:56:25,950 --> 02:56:27,810
the East China Sea. The visit

2795
02:56:27,810 --> 02:56:31,350
to China creates an opportunity
to convey our concerns directly

2796
02:56:31,590 --> 02:56:34,890
or to seek clarity regarding the
Chinese intentions in making

2797
02:56:34,890 --> 02:56:36,630
this move. At this time,

2798
02:56:36,930 --> 02:56:40,020
the so called Senkaku Islands
are controlled by Japan but are

2799
02:56:40,020 --> 02:56:43,950
also claimed by China and
Taiwan. Under China's new rules,

2800
02:56:43,950 --> 02:56:46,680
aircraft have to provide a
flight plan when passing through

2801
02:56:46,680 --> 02:56:50,550
the zone or face defensive
measures. The US says it still

2802
02:56:50,550 --> 02:56:54,420
regards the area's international
airspace, and as if to prove the

2803
02:56:54,420 --> 02:56:58,740
points. On Tuesday it flew to B
52 bombers into the zone without

2804
02:56:58,740 --> 02:57:02,580
alerting the Chinese and accuses
Beijing of trying to provoke an

2805
02:57:02,580 --> 02:57:05,880
escalation and regional
tensions. Okay, what's

2806
02:57:05,880 --> 02:57:10,770
your take cues is the Chinese of
trying to provoke and we'd like

2807
02:57:10,770 --> 02:57:13,440
to be 50 two's over these
islands.

2808
02:57:13,469 --> 02:57:16,349
To be fair, the flight was
scheduled many many weeks ago.

2809
02:57:16,349 --> 02:57:20,399
So this is a pre scheduled
flight. You don't think it would

2810
02:57:20,399 --> 02:57:23,009
have anything to do with the
fact that we have the world's

2811
02:57:23,009 --> 02:57:27,569
largest aircraft carrier in the
sea of China? I mean, come on,

2812
02:57:27,569 --> 02:57:27,929
we're being

2813
02:57:27,930 --> 02:57:30,060
done just saying who's provoking
who

2814
02:57:30,059 --> 02:57:34,889
Yeah, we're we're being dicks.
Apparently we got our aircraft

2815
02:57:34,889 --> 02:57:38,579
carrier they're helping the
Filipinos. Oh, that fell off the

2816
02:57:38,579 --> 02:57:39,239
radar.

2817
02:57:40,049 --> 02:57:44,129
Yeah, well. And then finally,
there's this thing going on to

2818
02:57:44,249 --> 02:57:46,919
you know, the Scots have do
they're trying to separate

2819
02:57:46,919 --> 02:57:48,749
themselves by the way this is
gonna fail.

2820
02:57:49,139 --> 02:57:52,829
But the thinking is, they have a
referendum if they want to

2821
02:57:52,829 --> 02:57:56,879
separate from the United
Kingdom. And if they do the

2822
02:57:56,879 --> 02:57:59,699
thinking, well, they want to be
a separate country. Well,

2823
02:57:59,699 --> 02:58:02,519
company is right, because they
have a lot of oil.

2824
02:58:04,290 --> 02:58:05,700
And they want it for themselves.

2825
02:58:06,090 --> 02:58:08,070
The Scottish Government's
revealed its blueprint for

2826
02:58:08,070 --> 02:58:11,040
independence from the United
Kingdom. Despite pledging to

2827
02:58:11,040 --> 02:58:14,040
forge its own prosperity the
documents suggests keeping the

2828
02:58:14,040 --> 02:58:18,090
British pound and the Queen over
a referendum to be held next

2829
02:58:18,120 --> 02:58:18,690
September.

2830
02:58:20,070 --> 02:58:24,180
Keeping the Queen you're gonna
keep the Queen take that and the

2831
02:58:24,180 --> 02:58:28,770
British pound and take her to
take her to Scotland. Canada.

2832
02:58:30,660 --> 02:58:31,950
They also kept the Queen

2833
02:58:32,610 --> 02:58:35,790
Yes, the Canadian still kept it.
He goes over about once.

2834
02:58:37,799 --> 02:58:43,139
That's sounds like you. Oh Obama
tone thing you've got September.

2835
02:58:45,780 --> 02:58:49,350
Symbolic stone marks the point
where Scotland meets England,

2836
02:58:49,890 --> 02:58:52,710
but could it soon become the
border between two separate

2837
02:58:52,710 --> 02:58:55,890
states. A new constitution would
be written with the queen

2838
02:58:55,890 --> 02:58:59,550
captors, head of states also
proposed a new Scottish defence

2839
02:58:59,550 --> 02:59:03,180
force of 15,000. The removal of
Trident nuclear weapons

2840
02:59:03,180 --> 02:59:06,000
currently kept from the river
Clyde and the new Scottish

2841
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:10,050
Broadcasting Service in place of
the BBC, causing the most

2842
02:59:10,050 --> 02:59:13,980
controversy currency. The
document says Scotland would

2843
02:59:13,980 --> 02:59:17,250
keep the pound but London said
this won't necessarily be

2844
02:59:17,250 --> 02:59:21,120
possible. UK Prime Minister
David Cameron's firmly behind

2845
02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:24,390
the Better Together campaign
against Scottish independence.

2846
02:59:24,720 --> 02:59:28,320
Its head MP Alistair Darling
blasted the document as a work

2847
02:59:28,320 --> 02:59:29,250
of fiction.

2848
02:59:29,729 --> 02:59:32,849
It's a fantasy to say we can
leave the UK but still keep all

2849
02:59:32,849 --> 02:59:36,329
the benefits of UK membership.
Instead of a credible and costed

2850
02:59:36,329 --> 02:59:39,239
plan. We have a wish list of
political promises.

2851
02:59:39,510 --> 02:59:44,370
According to latest polls, some
38% plan to vote yes, while 47

2852
02:59:44,370 --> 02:59:47,880
would vote no, but they still
have 10 months to make up their

2853
02:59:47,880 --> 02:59:48,600
minds.

2854
02:59:49,139 --> 02:59:51,119
Well, it's not gonna I think
you're right. It's gonna fail.

2855
02:59:51,629 --> 02:59:59,129
Yes. I'm gonna do that. You
know, it can't just say

2856
02:59:59,129 --> 03:00:01,679
something Yeah, we're a little
over time here.

2857
03:00:02,129 --> 03:00:03,479
Yeah, I think it's time to kill
the show.

2858
03:00:04,740 --> 03:00:08,880
Let's kill some I gotta like
shave and get dressed they're

2859
03:00:08,880 --> 03:00:10,140
gonna post produce everything.

2860
03:00:10,170 --> 03:00:13,470
Oh, you got a big dinner tonight
that's I have to cook a big

2861
03:00:13,560 --> 03:00:13,830
dinner

2862
03:00:14,010 --> 03:00:17,340
it's actually starting now at
two o'clock our time so I was

2863
03:00:17,340 --> 03:00:21,150
like thing is that sort of well
I think they also there's a big

2864
03:00:21,150 --> 03:00:24,300
football game and they want to
go to the game it's up against

2865
03:00:24,300 --> 03:00:25,380
something or other

2866
03:00:25,500 --> 03:00:28,530
oh yeah Dallas is playing
Oakland or something like that.

2867
03:00:28,530 --> 03:00:29,820
Oh, it was playing Um, no,

2868
03:00:29,820 --> 03:00:33,540
no, no is up against whatever it
is. We're for go UT.

2869
03:00:34,049 --> 03:00:37,349
There's a college game you're
saying? Oh, I think so. Yeah.

2870
03:00:38,489 --> 03:00:40,349
That's weird on Thursday but it
happens

2871
03:00:40,379 --> 03:00:42,539
now it's the end look I'm just
going for the cowboys and

2872
03:00:42,539 --> 03:00:44,879
trainees that's that's what I've
been promised I'm coming to

2873
03:00:44,879 --> 03:00:50,279
collect and I have released a
new daily source code. You can

2874
03:00:50,279 --> 03:00:55,319
find that only on BitTorrent
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2875
03:00:55,319 --> 03:01:00,269
more information as part of my
become a Bitcoin millionaire

2876
03:01:00,269 --> 03:01:00,929
before you

2877
03:01:01,020 --> 03:01:06,150
is part of your Mickey being
gone. On I'm so bored with MC.

2878
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:10,140
I'm gonna have to do something
else. I'm gonna elite source

2879
03:01:10,140 --> 03:01:10,410
code

2880
03:01:10,950 --> 03:01:15,840
coming to you from FEMA Region
six and proud of it in the

2881
03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:16,950
morning. I'm Adam curry.

2882
03:01:17,070 --> 03:01:22,230
And from FEMA Region nine is my
not mistaken northern Silicon

2883
03:01:22,230 --> 03:01:23,850
Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll

2884
03:01:23,849 --> 03:01:38,069
be back on Sunday, right here on
no agenda. podcast boruch.org/n

2885
03:01:38,099 --> 03:01:38,609
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