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I'm sitting here in the back of
the class, I'm going to make a

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meme. Adam curry. John C. Dvorak

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is Thursday, September 12 2013.
Time for your Gitmo nation media

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assassination episode 547.

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This is no agenda.

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Acting exceptional as expected
here in the traverse high tide

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out in the capital, the drone
Star State Austin Tejas in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I can see everything. I'm

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John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.

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That's right, everybody, it is
Thursday morning. 1107 here in

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Austin, Texas, and 907 and get
my nation West. And I give it

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about five minutes until we
start to being able to speak to

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each other.

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Yes. Possible. It seems we
didn't hackers pinging

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us now we could have done two
shows yesterday, in during our

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test our test moments. Yeah, we
should have done two shows. And

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if things start to break up,
we're just gonna like, stop and

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we're just going to continue
tonight.

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It could happen. Yeah, it could
happen. So, yes, so So John, um,

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I do have the, I do have the
Clip of the Day. And you start

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right off with Wait a minute,

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whatever you want to spew all
over me from the get go?

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Well, you were not going to give
it to me. So I might as well.

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We've been noticing the two
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using H's.

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Yes, we have the one Obama who
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other Obama who really
exaggerate it.

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Yes, I have an example of the
other Obama. And he's the one

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who gave the speech they will
you walk down the aisle and, you

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know, pet past the vending
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was shot in such a manner so
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was wearing a crown, which was
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background?

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Yeah, well, that's what he does
to crown he has planned. So see

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if you can spot the H gaff in
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and our ally, Israel can defend
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as well as the unshakable
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America.

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Well, I had the same clip. I'll
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little bit of the corner if you
don't mind. What is expected?

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What is the support?

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I don't know what the support
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the Shabbat Shalom support. Let
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I was really funny when I heard
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ally Israel can defend itself
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as the unshakable support of the
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When he says the word unshakable
he also exaggerates the the age

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a little bit, right.

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So because this is the the
warmongering Obama, yeah, that's

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which one we have here. Just so
you can hear. here's the here's

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the other robots while

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I didn't set a red line, the
world said a red line. The world

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said a red line when governments
representing 98% of the world's

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population said the use of
chemical weapons are abhorrent

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and passed a treaty.

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And you know, people are sending
in and no, he meant to say

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aberrant like, no. No, he didn't
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to say abhorrent. Yeah, he meant
to say of horrors, no doubt

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about I had. I'm glad we played
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several people said you would
have crap, but it's the same

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guy, by the way.

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Well, yeah, that one guy. I
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let's

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grab these at Abrons. Now. Now,
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abhorrent. And just yeah, by

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the way, the word aberrant
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of that sentence. No, it fits in

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a description, but not in the
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agree. Yeah. Well, there's

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a couple of things when it comes
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want to talk about where we're
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which was kind of an exciting
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think I recall the discussion on
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no, World War Three, stay calm.
Nothing's going to happen. Did

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we not say exactly that?

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Yeah, I think so. I think we've
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a pool of bet on it. But I think
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happen, right. There was a guy I
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with this crazy event that took
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something I said, probably six
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were very concerned about the
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infiltration of the media. I had
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completely you were on board
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This by the way, the concern is
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away. I mean, that is a fact.
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what We were talking about it
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much. Fact so I was always
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system. As, as really the key to
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I think ABC was a good
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White House and NBC of course
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town bottom was cable 10. Cable
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think it's computer world.

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Computer World bought them
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kind of out of the picture. But
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member, whatever the case is
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little crazy episode came up, I
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making the suggestion that we
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should give him a giveaway their
chemical weapons, and then we'd

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be good to go. There's two,
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narratives that had contradicted
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they had to be it had to be
resolved somehow, before CBS

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sent Charlie Rose somehow it is
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I just want to say because I
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because you saw almost nothing
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because Assad was so good. Did
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didn't. I didn't watch the whole
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And of course you haven't seen
any of it. But I Why didn't you

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know if this guy is so horrible?
Why didn't they give Charlie

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Rose like a poisonous rose or
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Hey, would you like this coffee?
Bashar? Look, I'm sipping it

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over here. I mean, come on. This
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Charlie Rose sitting there with
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slaughters his own people. I got
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Well, I here's what I got out of
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unbelievable. First of all, they
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reports. I have, let's say he
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bit of Charlie Rose and Scott
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it's correspondent who's in
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thinking well just play this.
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thinking. It's not only theater,
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will start to do anything to
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another crazy war. Yes.

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That interview was Sunday, Assad
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not confirm or deny the
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But in the last 24 hours, Syria
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chemical weapons, and it has
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international control. We got
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Damascus, with the Syrian
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speech on television, or
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tonight and she was there to
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were some of the details Well,
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you need to stop, stop just, I
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been hearing about is how hard
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reporting and there'll be can do
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can't get into Damascus, they
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don't trust American media in
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then we if we listen to this
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interviews rose about how they
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thing. And if you listen to the
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intelligence agency of some
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way rose wrote say things while
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playing here? This is the PBS
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Oh, I'm sorry. I couldn't find
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gratulations Charlie, this was
an interview. every news

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organization was difficult was
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very difficult journey but is in
the end what happened is that I

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basically said to them look, for
my program, we will do an

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unedited interview for 53
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with a president united states

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Well, I gotta stop right there.
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believe the the total running
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57 minutes and about 15 seconds.
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opportunities for this thing to
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skeptical that this is the the
entire interview. And it's you

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know, and they had multiple
cameras. So I think it's very

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easy for them to cut in and out
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this was 53 minutes, whatever.

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Doesn't make any difference
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the interview. Yes. And that was
acceptable. The update had some

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experience in was they felt like
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manipulated. And so without
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give you an unedited interview
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on the program. And they agreed
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to make to come to Damascus and
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literally the day before I left.
So it was not easy. Lots of

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conversations took place. And if
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Fager, the chairman of CBS News
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producer at 60 minutes with me,
call CBS provide a lot of help.

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There's Dennis Rodman there as
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could have been on board for
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the so they did a lot of
meetings. And it was Who are

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these guy? This guy? This guy
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I think is the guy to be looking
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also the producer of 60 minutes
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the 60 minute show, for whatever
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who also got him over to Syria.
There's a lot of people in the

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news media, I can assure you in
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would agree with this, that are
very annoyed by this. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Charlie Rose. And he's got
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interviews that have been dead
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just soft ballers. We want you
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Why didn't they send Diane
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I totally Hey, well, she's on
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There's other people that CBSE
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obviously a CBS. This is a CBS
script. Yeah. And the and I'm

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now more than ever convinced
that CBS is really the point man

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for the intelligence community.

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It makes sense because they are
not squarely in the in the Oh,

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camp. Like ABC. No, not at all.
They they are the ones that

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cracked open member Fast and
Furious. It was a CBS report

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that first really started to lay
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Okay. Yeah, that could totally
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So, anymore in that clip,

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there's like four minutes left
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much to do. I was gonna cut it.
There's a point where there's a

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natural cut, I just decided,

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let me let me play a few choice
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goodbye, love. I have four clips
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if you look at the interview,
that has been the pieces that

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have been played on, I think
primarily, CBS, I don't know if

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they've released it to other
well, PBS, of course, as well. I

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know they've released to other
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of you know, how could you not
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Assad was really really good he.
I mean, the guy seriously, if

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either one of us drops dead
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You know, the funny thing about
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that list. And he's obviously
he's taught English by a

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Castilian Spaniard.

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And the thing is, he's a
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You should get that fixed. I
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Yeah. So and it was his
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the interview, of course was
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No way. Wait, it was Assad's
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was that he was going to

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be? Oh, I don't know if 911.
September 11. This is his

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birthday. Yeah. Wow. All right.
So the a couple of bits here

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that I thought were really
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just throwing everything back in
Charlie Rose's face. And, and I

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will say rose actually believes
everything he's saying, which is

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a little creepy, when you hear
some of the questions, but this

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is where Assad just got into
Charlie Rose's face in a very

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funny way

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transparent. If he does, if he
does, if he presents that

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evidence, this is what you can
discuss the evidence, but he

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doesn't have he didn't present
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He doesn't have no one in your
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they would have presented it to
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day. They have presented to the
Congress, nothing. Congress what

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they have and the evidence they
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intercepted messages and the
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nothing, isn't it? Nothing has
been presented so far. They have

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presented to Congress or your
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evidence has been showing to the
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I love this. Like, of course, we
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evidence that has been shown
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know, secretly, yes, yes. As
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why

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is it such a big secret?

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Well, Bashar was calling him
out. He's like, there's no

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evidence even presented. Hey,
you're a reporter. Go get it and

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show it to your people and roses
like they're presented when

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they're presenting it to the
public representative. You don't

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show your evidence and what
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to have people that within your
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to the people's representative.
So you have to vote on an

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authorization to strike and if
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sufficient.

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So that's the folder we have for
the President and precedent of

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Colin Powell 10 years ago when
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turned out now he's he's doing a
very smart things. And look,

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Colin Powell held up does that
mean they had all the secret

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evidence they had the satellite
photos they showed it then why

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not? This

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showed the evidence. It was
false, and it was forged. This

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is first second. You want me to
believe American evidence and

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don't believe the indication
that We have We live here, this

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locations are that what? Sorry,
what your indications are that

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that the rebel or the terrorist
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northern of Aleppo five months
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Alright, so then he goes into
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of course, Assad's problem,
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speaking English, you know, it's
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the list and the projection is a
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across as very forceful. But the
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listen through the list, this is
another one where it's just you

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know, in your face. Now, his
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terrorists from outside the
country who are fighting against

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his regime. And we know that we
know that at least the United

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States has been helping them
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today Reuters reports that we
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We had a clip of almost a month
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accidentally admitting that
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right, which we named the show
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lethal aid exactly less than a
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weeks ago. So here's here's
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lasting so long, and for their
terrorism, and for their

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killing, and beheading, and so
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Why is this war lasted two and a
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because of the external
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external agenda, supported by or
let's say, led by the United

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States, the West, the petro
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Arabia, and before was copper,
and Turkey. That's why it lasted

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two years and a half. So the

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guy is basically saying, hey,
you know, the reason why it's

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taking so long as you keep
financing these eight holes,

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that's why we were trying to
beat them down, but you keep

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financing them. And then of
course, rows, and this is this

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was really interesting, where he
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this army of Assad is run by
him. You know, they are the

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loyalists, they'll do anything
they like and not see storm on

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fewer troopers that just going
to go kid we are killing. And

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Assad calls him out on it again,
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a human also plan on which is
not the case for you have a

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powerful army. The army made all
the people cannot be made of

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robots. It's made official,
surely

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you're suggesting that

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the army is not made of robots,
Charlie, they're made of people.

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Yeah, I can't force them to do
everything that people at the

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end of the day they're not
robots army

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is not at your will and the will
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How can you What do you mean by
the widow, the family? The will

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of your family? If

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the brother is in the military,
the military has been at every

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observer of Syria, believe that
this is a country controlled by

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your family and controlled by
the Allah whites who are your

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allies? That's the control.

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If that situation is correct,
what you were mentioning, we

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wouldn't have with the 1040
years and a half, we would have

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disintegration of the army. This
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institution in the states would
have disintegration of Syria. Is

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that the case?

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And I think he's making a valid
point here. You know, there's

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even just look on the social
medias, as they'd say, in

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Washington, about our own armed
forces and their armed forces,

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you know, saying publicly, like,
we're not going to do this, we

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are going to revolt against
going into Syria or doing even

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doing X, Y or Z. I mean, at a
certain point, you can only push

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your own people so far. I think
it's a valid point that he's

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making, but it's very hard for
people who have been

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indoctrinated. And Charlie Rose
is certainly one of them to even

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consider the fact that maybe,
you know, the army wouldn't want

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to do that. Well.

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This is exactly why Rose was
picked.

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Yes. Because he's he is well
thought he is

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the robot and he he reflects. I
think it's a top down

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reflection. I think it starts at
Obama. But Carrie and I have a

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clip here, the regime clip,
Kerry has a doesn't quite get it

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himself. And so when he tries to
even express what I think roses

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is expressing in the question,
you end up with this crazy, I

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think the John Kerry flub of the
day, which is which is him

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responding to a question with
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under any circumstances, the
Assad regime is the Assad regime

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and the regime issues orders and
we have high level for regime

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that have been caught giving
these instructions and engaging

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in these preparations with
results going directly to

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President Assad. And we're aware
of that. So we have no issue

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about the question here of
responsibility. There is not the

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Assad regime as the Assad
regime. Wow.

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It's just Do you hear those
little fluffy made? Yeah. So we

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have no question of
responsibility. There is not but

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what he meant was, of course,
there's no question what he

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meant. When he says there isn't.
What he meant was there is no

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question. Yeah, but but the way
it was put together, that

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structure was there is no
responsibility because

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the human body and mind don't
want to be untruthful. He can't

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help himself. I just have one
more clip of this Rose

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interview, and and then I'll,
I'll be done with it. But again,

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this is not something unless you
watch the PBS interview, which I

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think I saw 330 700 views
online. I don't know what their

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TV ratings are, but it's not
high. Then it was not propagated

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this because it was it was a
pretty good rebuttal. You don't

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want

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we're in our sixth look. We're
in a situation. A situation

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where we have to be lockstep.
Ozobots. Yeah. Oh, talking about

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that sort of thing. And we can't
be distracted by some guy who

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might be sympathetic.

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Exactly. Alright, here's the
here's the the war of words,

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between the term opposition and
terrorism, and Bashar Al Assad

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knows quite a bit about what's
going on in the US and the UK

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and France yet allow

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the idea that there is
opposition to your government

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from within Syria, that is not
possible for you to imagine,

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to imagine that we have
opposition? Yes, we have it and

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you can go and meet with them.
We have some of them within the

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government. We have some of them
outside the government. They are

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opposition. We have it.

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But those are the people have
been fighting against you.

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Opposition is different from
terrorism. Opposition is a

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political movement. Opposition
doesn't mean to take armament

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and kill people and destroy
everything. Do you call the

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people in Los Angeles in the
90s? Do you call them rebels? Or

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opposition? What would the
British called the rebels less

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than two years ago in London? Do
they did they call them

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opposition or rebels? Why should
we call them opposition? They

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are rebels. They are not able to
defend their hotels they are

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behaving is opposition opposing
country or government by

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behaving by barbecuing head by
eating the hearts of your victim

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did that opposition? What do you
call the people who attacked the

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2011 to September? Opposition,
even though they're not

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American? I know that that's all
they have, I think national

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nationality? I think one of them
has the American nationality.

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Is that true that one of the the
hijackers have the American

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nationality that missed
something.

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There was that one guy who
wasn't on any of the planes that

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lived in Minnesota or something
where they dragged him into

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court and down the slammer?

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Nobody but what he's saying is
so right. He's saying, hey, you

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know, if you're going to drone
some some American in the

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desert, and you call them a
terrorist, you don't call him

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the opposition, even though he
hasn't even done anything. I

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mean, come on. This is this is
actual sensical talk.

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Yes. As opposed to care to carry
in rose.

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Did you read Vladimir Putin's op
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No, I'll bring it up. Oh, okay.
I have it here. There's a couple

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of key so he responds to the
entire New York

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Times, by the way, is somehow
like, Nigeria's No, another

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little tidbit? We're pretty
convinced that the New York

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Times has always been very
closely associated with the CIA.

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Yes. And they've been running
some some kind of anti

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administration material,
including that front page shot

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of the Syrian rebels execution
shot execution shot of these

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shooting these helpless
soldiers. Yeah. I think

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something's up here.

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So here is it's called a plea
for caution from Russia, and it

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says by Vladimir V. Putin. Oh,
by the way, if I could trade I

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think I would like him to I
mean, he's a douche doesn't you

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know, he might be good as an
American president. Maybe we

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could do a celebrity present
president swap or something.

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Just take him for a while.

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Well, it's I'm not I'm not
buying into this one.

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I liked the whole you know, the
sub

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PCs have a president was
actually you know, a good

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American.

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Well placed now this is why we
can have Putin what difference

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does it make? So he, it's a it's
kind of what you would expect.

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Just a couple of choice pieces
from this. Op Ed is written by

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Hill and Knowlton are one of the
boys yes, no matter how targeted

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the strikes are, how
sophisticated the weapons

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civilian casualties are
inevitable, including the

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elderly and the children from
whom the strikes are meant to

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protect us. Uh, you know, so he
hits on all the all the points,

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but then he says, I studied. He
actually says he's, you know,

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his, his his working with
President Obama is in you know,

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it's getting better we're we're
cooperating, but that he

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listened very closely to the
President's speech. And I heard

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this piece too. And I also want
to like, Huh, you know, I've

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heard of our special
relationship and, and different

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types of terms that we use to
describe America. But the

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President said, this.

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Franklin Roosevelt once said,
our national determination to

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keep free of Foreign Wars, and
foreign entanglements cannot

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prevent us from feeling deep
concern when ideals and

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principles that we have
cherished are challenged. Our

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ideals, and principals, as well
as our national security are at

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stake in Syria, along with our
leadership of a world where we

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seek to ensure that the worst
weapons will never be used.

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America is not the world's
policemen. Terrible things

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happen across the globe. And it
is beyond our means to write

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every wrong. But when, with
modest effort and risk, we can

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stop children from being gassed
to death, and thereby make our

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own children safer over the long
run. I believe we should act.

451
00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:34,830
That's what makes America
different. That's what makes us

452
00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:40,650
exceptional. With humility, but
with resolve, let us never lose

453
00:26:40,650 --> 00:26:45,750
sight of that essential truth.
Thank you, God bless you. And

454
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:47,220
God bless the United States of
America.

455
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,950
And here's what President Putin
says. He says my working in

456
00:26:49,950 --> 00:26:52,320
personal relationship with
President Obama is marked by

457
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,590
growing trust. And I appreciate
this. I carefully studied his

458
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:57,690
address to the nation on
Tuesday. And I would rather

459
00:26:57,690 --> 00:27:00,720
disagree with the case he made
on American exceptionalism,

460
00:27:01,230 --> 00:27:04,500
stating that the United States
policy is quote, what makes

461
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:07,980
America different. It's what
makes us exceptional, unquote.

462
00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:11,280
It is extremely dangerous to
encourage people to see

463
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,780
themselves as exceptional
wherever the motivation. There

464
00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:18,180
are big countries and small
countries, rich and poor, those

465
00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:20,850
with long democratic traditions
and those still find their way

466
00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:23,640
to democracy. Their policies
differ too. We are all

467
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,460
different. But when we ask for
the Lord's blessings, we must

468
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:32,640
not forget that God created us
all equal. I mean, this is good.

469
00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:34,860
This is good stuff. And I agree.

470
00:27:34,890 --> 00:27:36,960
I think it's good stuff or
whatever. Let us point out a

471
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,980
couple of things here.

472
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:43,050
But first of all, I also feel
when you say we are exceptional.

473
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,050
Let's I think the President
positioned us above the rest of

474
00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:48,450
the world with that. And that's
extremely arrogant.

475
00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:53,700
Well, this is absolutely nothing
new. So I don't think that's

476
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:54,930
important one way or the other.

477
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,090
What do you mean, and I think
it's nothing new.

478
00:27:57,270 --> 00:28:00,090
We talk about American
exceptionalism. All the

479
00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:02,550
presidents do and they do it
commonly. And they've been doing

480
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:05,340
it in all of history since
Monroe. Well, they're all

481
00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:09,630
assholes, then. Well, Monroe is
actually is an asshole. There's

482
00:28:09,630 --> 00:28:14,190
some in between that are
probably okay. But there's a

483
00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:16,020
couple of things here that are
weird is one is that he's

484
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:18,450
talking about democratic
traditions. And then he's, I

485
00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:22,560
guess he's bringing Russia a
communist state into that run by

486
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,510
a dictator him into that into
that fold? Of course he is. That

487
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:30,390
was a pretty well, this to me.
It doesn't he does not have any

488
00:28:30,390 --> 00:28:32,190
of Putin's voice that I can

489
00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:35,670
tell. No, but it's it's the this
is written by

490
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:36,930
somebody out in New York.

491
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,540
Yeah, it's the Mirage. That is
Putin. But that's good. I mean,

492
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,960
we know the only thing that guy
can do is fish and hunt.

493
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,690
That's absolutely sure was the
point of this. It is.

494
00:28:49,530 --> 00:28:53,190
Well, I think it's just more of
the same tactics we've been

495
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:59,820
seeing. The Fu Fu isn't the fact
that the New York Times is

496
00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:05,460
publishing it? I think is
remarkable. As an op ed.

497
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:10,530
I think the double lining here
that's the funny line. My

498
00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:13,920
working in personal relationship
with President Obama is marked

499
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,620
by growing trust. I appreciate
this.

500
00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:21,870
That's where he puts himself 10
feet above Obama by saying that

501
00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:28,740
I have nothing but respect for
this. The psychological way of

502
00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:31,050
warfare that is going on it is
very good.

503
00:29:32,730 --> 00:29:34,560
Yeah, it could have been better.

504
00:29:36,030 --> 00:29:38,700
Well, if they had they'd call
the curry Devorah Consulting

505
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:39,780
Group, perhaps? Yeah, I

506
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:42,300
think we could have beefed it up
a little more attention much

507
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:46,500
better in that case. That's
pretty bland. Of course a PR

508
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,970
lady who did this. It's bland if
you could get Curry's attention

509
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,570
and and do you have a on the
web? On the web version of this?

510
00:29:57,570 --> 00:30:01,410
I don't have the printed New
York Times It says there's a

511
00:30:01,470 --> 00:30:02,850
graphic of a hand

512
00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:04,950
that yeah, the red hand. Okay,
it's

513
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:07,350
black and white on mine is the
red hand

514
00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:09,120
black and white on the web too.

515
00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:10,470
But whose red hand is it?

516
00:30:11,790 --> 00:30:17,070
So some art this is a spot art
that somebody put their you

517
00:30:17,070 --> 00:30:21,990
know, the red hand behind carry,
I have no idea might not be a

518
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:24,270
redhead. It could be a black
cat, which is which is what it

519
00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:26,640
is. I don't think it's
significant. I think it's just

520
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,450
so spot art.

521
00:30:27,719 --> 00:30:30,299
They're just like, hey, let's
just break this op ed up and put

522
00:30:30,299 --> 00:30:31,499
a hand in there. That's

523
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:34,410
like to put a little piece of
art there. Yeah. But I think

524
00:30:34,410 --> 00:30:37,980
it's funny as they have enlarged
this image next to it. Like who

525
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:40,320
cares? Oh, now it's bigger.

526
00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:41,460
It's a big hand.

527
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:47,430
Oh, wait a minute. You missed
it. The hands got a missile. I

528
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:49,860
see it. You're right, a missile
streaking across that I see it

529
00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:55,620
now. Interesting. And all these
things. These things are subtle.

530
00:30:55,620 --> 00:30:58,110
But in this type of
psychological warfare, I think

531
00:30:58,110 --> 00:30:58,740
they matter.

532
00:30:59,850 --> 00:31:03,540
What's the point of the missile?
There's probably these these

533
00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:06,030
fingers in the shadows on the
fingers, probably somebody's

534
00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:12,000
head to the one on the far right
looks like Brezhnev. And then

535
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,480
the one in the long finger. The
middle finger looks like, like a

536
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,970
guy's eyeball. And there's a
mouth underneath there. And he's

537
00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:20,070
staring at you. And I we

538
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:22,230
should we should we should
analyze this. Someone else

539
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:24,480
should analyze this for us.
We're no good at this. But I

540
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,040
think you may be the one on

541
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,880
the far left. It looks like a
knight or a knave facing looking

542
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,480
to the left to the left. Yeah,
it's got a little hat on. Don't

543
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,530
you think? Like he's got armor
on and he's standing on a ball.

544
00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:41,160
He does look like a chess piece.
Look at now, if you look at the

545
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,720
the middle finger, doesn't it
look a bit like it's half of

546
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,830
Obama's profile?

547
00:31:46,890 --> 00:31:49,680
So half of his face? I think
with an eyeball looking at you

548
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,320
couldn't? I don't see the Obama
in there? Well,

549
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:54,030
I'm looking at the small
version.

550
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,910
Oh, maybe if you know the at the
very top of you just go that top

551
00:31:56,910 --> 00:32:00,270
digital. It looks like it could
be an Obama head. Yeah, yeah.

552
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Anyway, yeah, just as artists is
now.

553
00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:10,740
Wow. Okay. And the funny thing,
of course, is, you know, this

554
00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:15,660
whole back and forth between and
now. Now, if it isn't obvious to

555
00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:19,290
everybody, you know, now you can
see that this is America,

556
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,710
against Russia. And we of course
have known that this has been

557
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:26,520
the Syria has been a proxy for
this issue ongoing throughout

558
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,300
the duration of of what has been
happening in Syria. So now it's

559
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,260
kind of out in the open,
although I doubt anyone really

560
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:37,260
recognizes it. I may people may
be so tired of it. They don't

561
00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:40,260
care anymore. But it's kind of
funny that this is exactly what

562
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:47,520
the President chided candidate
Romney over during the the elect

563
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:49,770
the elections during the
debates, Governor

564
00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:52,350
Romney, I'm glad that you
recognize that al Qaeda is the

565
00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:55,170
threat because a few months ago,
when you were asked what's the

566
00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:57,840
biggest geopolitical threat
facing America, you said Russia,

567
00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:02,850
that al Qaeda, you said Russia,
in the 1980s are now calling to

568
00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:04,200
ask for their foreign policy
back.

569
00:33:05,310 --> 00:33:06,240
Remember that quip?

570
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:12,510
Yep, there you go. Yeah. Now
here we have it. So Romney was

571
00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:13,350
ahead of the game.

572
00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:16,830
Yeah. Not that I want Romney as
President, I still would choose

573
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:18,000
Putin over Romney.

574
00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:24,690
So just that I use the word so I
would like to play it because

575
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,700
back to my thesis that CBS is is
the is the player here. And is

576
00:33:29,730 --> 00:33:34,500
this news director guy who's
buddies with Charlie Rose. I, I

577
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:38,040
noticed I have two packages I
could play I'm just want to play

578
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:43,110
the one, which is this is the
seat that CBS besides dominating

579
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:45,690
the conversation with by sending
rows over there and didn't have

580
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,210
all these people over there
somehow. They also sent a

581
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:52,830
package out to the affiliates.
And it was it was a CBS package

582
00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:55,680
you could tell it was well, Deus
and they got and as long I don't

583
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,780
I didn't clip the whole thing by
clipped a bunch of it. And it it

584
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:04,860
to me really is this is the this
would be this package the sent

585
00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:08,850
out to all the neural networks,
network affiliates, this would

586
00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:11,700
be the Litany this would be the
because this is what you're

587
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:13,710
going to send out this the
public generally is going to end

588
00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:17,040
up with then. So this is the
overall thesis that you're going

589
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,970
to get from the not necessarily
the administration but whoever

590
00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:25,320
this CBS people represent. But
this is the CBS gas package

591
00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:30,180
Boyd military action with a
single off the cuff remark. Is

592
00:34:30,180 --> 00:34:33,720
there anything at this point
that his government could do or

593
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:36,090
offer that would stop an attack?

594
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:41,430
Sure, he can turn over every
single bit of this chemical

595
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:44,580
weapons to the international
community in the next week.

596
00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:48,990
Turn it over, and then to
everyone's surprise, serious

597
00:34:48,990 --> 00:34:53,910
said okay, it will. After that
President Obama told CBS Evening

598
00:34:53,910 --> 00:34:55,500
News Anchor Scott Pelley

599
00:34:55,770 --> 00:34:59,640
it is a potentially positive
development. I don't think that

600
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,040
we would have gotten to the
point where they even put

601
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,710
something out there publicly had
it not been. And if it doesn't

602
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:11,670
continue to be a credible
military threat from the United

603
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:12,090
States,

604
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:16,470
Syrian President Bashar Assad
told CBS This Morning co host,

605
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:19,830
Charlie Rose, that if the US
attacks, there could be

606
00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:22,050
retaliation could expect

607
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:25,140
everything, not necessarily
through the government and you

608
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:27,030
have different policies, you
have different factions.

609
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:30,840
President Obama says he doesn't
take that as a credible threat,

610
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:34,530
because Syria simply doesn't
have the capacity to carry out a

611
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:35,940
significant attack.

612
00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:40,080
Some of his allies like Iran and
Hezbollah, do have the capacity

613
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,190
to engage in asymmetrical
strikes against us. Our

614
00:35:44,190 --> 00:35:46,860
intelligence, I think, is very
clear that they would not try to

615
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:49,140
escalate the war with us.

616
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:53,820
President Obama will address the
nation tomorrow evening at six

617
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:55,230
to lay out his case from

618
00:35:56,190 --> 00:36:01,080
Okay, a couple things. One, of
course, it almost seems like a

619
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,290
script when you know that Kerry
was already scheduled to go to

620
00:36:04,290 --> 00:36:09,750
Geneva for the to, you know, to
work on the document. We knew

621
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:15,540
that before the the Putin Assad
announcement. So it almost feels

622
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:18,780
like he was like, Okay, this is
it. Here's the cue for the next

623
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:20,580
move. Guys. You know what he
could do?

624
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:25,350
Yeah, no, this obvious that was
a planet question. Also, Rose

625
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,350
was leaving the next day? Or
actually, Rose was there on

626
00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:33,270
Sunday? He had to have he had to
have that question in hand. Yes.

627
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:36,360
So so they had the book, they
had to blow it out. We know the

628
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,880
Russians came up with the idea.
And here's the here's the thing

629
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,390
that became interesting. This is
the PBS this is part of the PBS

630
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:44,550
package, which they did
themselves. They didn't get it

631
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:47,970
from CBS. And you got this. You
there's two clips here I want to

632
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:51,300
play. One is played this well
wishes. And you never heard this

633
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:54,960
from anywhere else. PBS Part
Three a mess.

634
00:36:56,670 --> 00:37:01,500
But hours later, a surprising
clarification. A senior official

635
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:05,190
traveling with Kerry said the
Secretary's remarks had been

636
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:09,030
rhetorical and not intended as a
serious proposal.

637
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,390
You never heard that right. Oh,

638
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:15,060
no, I didn't know that. This is
from the gaggle they do on the

639
00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:15,570
plane.

640
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:19,140
So that was interesting. And
then the more interesting thing

641
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:22,680
was, and we still don't know
whose side she's on. But somehow

642
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,900
Hillary jumps into the
conversation,

643
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,440
former Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton spoke at a White

644
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,250
House event, you're all she
endorsed military action against

645
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,930
Syria, and said,

646
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:39,180
if the regime immediately
surrendered its stockpiles to

647
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:44,910
international control, as was
suggested by Secretary Kerry,

648
00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:52,590
and the Russians, that would be
an important step. But this

649
00:37:52,590 --> 00:37:59,160
cannot be another excuse for
delay for obstruction. And

650
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,610
Russia has to support the
international community's

651
00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:06,150
efforts sincerely or be held to
account.

652
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,280
Now the way she does this, she
says that Carrie suggested and

653
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,950
then she has a long pause, and
she's got a mean, look on her

654
00:38:13,950 --> 00:38:20,430
face. Yeah, seriously. She says,
and the Russians, yeah. Because

655
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:23,850
I think she was annoyed. Because
I don't think she's part of the

656
00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:27,450
script. Or that narrative. She
was on the margin. Yeah, she's

657
00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:30,210
on the margin. And she's been
left out and she knew the

658
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:33,870
Russians came up with this idea,
because you we suggest you

659
00:38:33,870 --> 00:38:36,510
actually noticed it. That was it
kind of stemmed from the

660
00:38:36,510 --> 00:38:42,240
meetings in the G 20. And so
Carrie had to blow it out so he

661
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,000
could get make sure Charlie
Rose, who's on is part of the

662
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,070
narrative that you get, it could
ask that question when it gets

663
00:38:47,070 --> 00:38:51,030
over there. And meanwhile, the
Russians gets kind of pushed

664
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:54,180
aside as the as the ideal as the
guys who came up with this idea.

665
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:58,170
And so she makes a point of it,
of bringing it up, because look

666
00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:01,170
on her face was like, just doing
everything but shaking her head.

667
00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:06,690
Now, I think that there's some
brilliance in here, as I believe

668
00:39:06,690 --> 00:39:12,570
it will be the Russians who will
most likely take whatever out

669
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:16,200
and take them to whatever safe
place or drop in the ocean or

670
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,200
whatever, whatever we're going
to agree to but if you look

671
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,340
back, and I'm always interested
in the maritime aspect, you

672
00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:25,740
know, I've been following all
the ships and the we we've had

673
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,430
Russian subs in the
Mediterranean for weeks now. And

674
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:33,540
on September 6, we have a report
here a Russian warship, the

675
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:39,660
Nikolai Phil Chen cough has
showed up at the port their

676
00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:45,750
TARDIS with a quote unquote
special cargo and I'm thinking

677
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:48,930
it was kind of hard for these
guys to unload their special

678
00:39:48,930 --> 00:39:53,460
cargo which I'm only going to
presume as these s 400 missile

679
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:58,380
launchers are some some
fantastic gear that that Russia

680
00:39:58,380 --> 00:40:01,620
is installing and you know that
assault To solve the Syria, but

681
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:04,740
now they have perfect cover, you
know, we can oh, we're gonna

682
00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:07,470
unload this and then we got to
make some space for the chemical

683
00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:10,860
weapons and what's the oh we
just moved this stuff over into

684
00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:14,490
the warehouse, I think is
perfect I mean in the the

685
00:40:14,490 --> 00:40:18,420
fallacy of all of this is for
waiting for months what years

686
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:22,680
human hearing you know about all
100,000 people by the way the

687
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,630
calculation of the 100,000
people is is sketchy at best you

688
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:30,690
know, and the red line is the
chemical weapons and now it's

689
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:34,020
like now now apparently the guy
isn't killing anyone anymore

690
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:37,920
that's just ended and no one is
even asking anything about this

691
00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:41,130
isn't all it's all it's okay in
the chemical weapons, it'll be

692
00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:43,830
over and then we'll just it'll
all just kind of fizzle out. And

693
00:40:43,830 --> 00:40:48,390
we'll take a couple of weeks and
even the calculation of the dead

694
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,830
from this so called sarin gas
attack is funny. Here's

695
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,610
professor at Tufts University,
who did what I did several

696
00:40:56,610 --> 00:40:59,910
months ago when I looked into
numbers 92,000 People now it's

697
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:04,320
120. You know, it's hundreds of
1000s just people just throwing

698
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,270
numbers around like it's like
it's co2 in the atmosphere.

699
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:14,190
Here's the Tufts University
professor tells us how the 1400

700
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:15,900
number was reached, Americans

701
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:21,240
acknowledge that they're not
only relying on hospital sources

702
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,690
and morgue reports, but also
even more than some of the

703
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:29,820
others on activist testimony on
social media and on unidentified

704
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,530
intelligence sources we aren't
privy to, as well as there's

705
00:41:34,530 --> 00:41:39,000
more discussion of a reliance on
mathematical models. And in part

706
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:41,610
so far as we can tell some of
the numbers that are coming out

707
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:46,650
are based on numbers of rockets
fired wind patterns, dispersal.

708
00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:47,940
Are you kidding me?

709
00:41:48,450 --> 00:41:54,690
That 429 426 of them are
children. And this is based on

710
00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:58,380
mathematical models using
rockets fired and wind patterns,

711
00:41:58,380 --> 00:41:59,340
patterns

712
00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,690
and other sets of expectations.
The French, as I understand it,

713
00:42:03,810 --> 00:42:08,610
are relying on casualty counts,
and there are only counting

714
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:13,770
people where they can identify a
first and last name. That said

715
00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:17,400
they have also intimated that
there are mathematical models

716
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,850
with this as soon as people
become climate change with

717
00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:22,980
mathematical models, do you
suggest

718
00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:27,000
that casualty numbers might be
as high as about 1500? More or

719
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,490
less consistent with the US
claim? The British had been

720
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:32,850
rather tight lipped. But so far
as I can tell, the British are

721
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,800
essentially our tiny little that
they're only using numbers of

722
00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:40,170
people that they can actually
identify as

723
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:42,780
casualties. So when we just get
this right, we're using social

724
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:49,650
media. We're using bloggers,
Syrian Danny, I guess is one of

725
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:54,180
our sources, confidential, high
security things that we can't

726
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:59,130
know. And then seriously,
seriously, we're using number of

727
00:42:59,130 --> 00:43:02,850
rockets fired and wind pattern
to determine to come up with his

728
00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:07,380
number. And the in the media in
general, except for a few

729
00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:11,640
reports. Just just take it and
just say, oh, yeah, it's

730
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:17,250
14 129 1426 children. We've seen
no women. The President in his

731
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:22,590
speech, again, talked about the
rows and rows and rows. That's

732
00:43:22,590 --> 00:43:25,050
the picture from Iraq. Mr.
President, that's not the

733
00:43:25,050 --> 00:43:32,550
picture from from Syria. So so
all of this, this whole thing is

734
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:39,660
one big coordinated psyops. And
the more you just keep repeating

735
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:41,940
it repeat who was it was a
Goebbels that said that the more

736
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:43,740
you repeat the lie, the more
becomes

737
00:43:44,820 --> 00:43:47,400
known fact you can just keep
repeating the lie.

738
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:55,740
Do you mean something like this?
That's not That's the truth.

739
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,770
That's the truth. But it's true.
Well,

740
00:43:58,799 --> 00:44:01,349
while we're on that subject of
the best podcast in the

741
00:44:01,349 --> 00:44:02,009
universe,

742
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,920
today, say in the morning to
you, John C. Dvorak,

743
00:44:05,009 --> 00:44:07,169
I think you should say in the
morning to me because I can say

744
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,979
that way I can say in the
morning to you, Adam, see curry

745
00:44:11,789 --> 00:44:14,129
and all the ships at sea boots
on the ground feet in the air

746
00:44:14,129 --> 00:44:15,839
and subs in the water and the
names and nights out

747
00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:18,660
and in the morning to all of our
human resources there in the

748
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:21,420
chat room. No agenda stream.com
no agenda chat. dotnet in the

749
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:26,940
morning to all of our artists
festival. We broski did the art

750
00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:34,410
for episode four of I'm sorry,
546 Now, it looked a lot like

751
00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:37,380
ties but ours but uh, he put in
festival Dubrovsky

752
00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:41,310
Yeah, it looks a lot. Like
tight. That's interesting. You

753
00:44:41,310 --> 00:44:42,030
know, maybe

754
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:43,380
stuff can happen like that, you
know,

755
00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:45,690
sometimes you maybe that's his
real name,

756
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,600
no agenda. Our generator.com is
where you can submit your art we

757
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,770
choose the art pretty much
within 1015 minutes after each

758
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:56,250
live broadcast. So it's it's a
real challenge. It's it's, you

759
00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:58,830
know, it's fast art on the fly.
It's hard to do.

760
00:44:59,490 --> 00:45:02,070
Yeah. You should just go to
special you should make a

761
00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:05,040
mention of yourself in your own
bio, if you can get some of this

762
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,730
stuff published.

763
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:08,940
Absolutely. So the way this
program is funded, the only

764
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:13,140
reason why we can talk the way
we do and go out on limbs the

765
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:15,480
way we do and why we can bring
you things that just aren't

766
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,180
brought anywhere else is because
of our model is value for value.

767
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:21,660
You ask yourself, did I receive
any value from this

768
00:45:22,290 --> 00:45:25,290
and find out something new? I
find out the truth. We're the

769
00:45:25,290 --> 00:45:26,670
defenders of reality.

770
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:29,130
The Guardians of reality Oh,

771
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:33,450
oh, get it actually. The
Guardians of reality. Hey, go.

772
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,320
What do we have here?

773
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,470
We do have some executive
producers to thank one executive

774
00:45:37,470 --> 00:45:42,390
and 1234 associate executives
with a and of course, here comes

775
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:48,120
the Duke of Silicon Valley Sir
David Foley. Hey, again. Once

776
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,610
again, he's going for some sort
of record here for being this

777
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,040
member of more clubs than anyone
else. Oh, he's

778
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,800
got the 547 Club today. I say
547

779
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,810
club he drew and 547 out of Los
Gatos. In the morning, John and

780
00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:04,500
Adam and the former Errol of
Silicon Valley nice to Duke and

781
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,440
enclosed Please find my club 547
membership which consists of

782
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,760
6666 anniversary donation 4949
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783
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,990
birthday 3939 for the mac and
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784
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:19,080
podcast in the universe, and
$250 value for value matching

785
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,800
funds, five times 50 from na
users that went to

786
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,970
4k special.com and purchased a
4k TV using the no agenda

787
00:46:26,970 --> 00:46:28,860
discount code. Ah, that's

788
00:46:28,860 --> 00:46:31,530
right. Well, you get like 50
bucks off,

789
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,650
I think or something. I don't
know. I can't remember you have

790
00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:36,660
to go back and look it up. And
he should have put it in the

791
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:39,930
note again. Anyway, the
4k special.com Check it out.

792
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:45,600
Everyone wants to 4k tv. And by
the way, I've seen these things.

793
00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:49,170
And there's not there is
actually a website dedicated to

794
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,330
downloading 4k content. It's a
stunner. I mean, it's really

795
00:46:54,330 --> 00:46:56,190
something if you want to if
you've got the money,

796
00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:59,220
but doesn't 4k content does that
mean you have to have like a

797
00:46:59,220 --> 00:47:02,820
huge pipe in order to get that
or is that you get it on DVD? It

798
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:06,150
takes a couple hours maybe not
streaming?

799
00:47:06,180 --> 00:47:07,680
Well that come on a laserdisc?

800
00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:10,770
No, I don't know how they're
gonna do it. Whatever the case

801
00:47:10,770 --> 00:47:17,220
is, you can get it and the sets
are stunning. Andy Pillman it

802
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:21,690
would be our Associate Executive
producer from lead Belgium to

803
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:25,740
3369 in the morning it and first
of all, I want to thank you guys

804
00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:28,590
for the baby making karma we've
got with the previous donation

805
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,240
since it worked. However, I
didn't realize that the rest of

806
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:36,510
the process needed more karma
apparently says the human

807
00:47:36,510 --> 00:47:39,300
resource decided to call it
quits after nine weeks.

808
00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:42,090
Therefore I'm claiming to ask
for fresh baby making Chris

809
00:47:42,090 --> 00:47:42,510
terrible.

810
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,900
This is this is a horrible
story. It is.

811
00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:48,930
Therefore I'm inclined to ask
for fresh baby making karma to a

812
00:47:48,930 --> 00:47:53,190
test about baby. Yeah, okay, I'm
gonna read some of the way we

813
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:55,950
can put it. We wrongly assumed
that the baby making karma would

814
00:47:55,950 --> 00:47:59,130
still apply. But since I've got
I've not managed to get rid of

815
00:47:59,130 --> 00:48:02,580
the Russians again in the months
that followed. We'll need an

816
00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:05,250
extra batch of karma before I'm
forced to do it in a cup.

817
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:08,550
Second, I don't know. reading
this,

818
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:11,010
I had to do it in a cup for

819
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:15,330
I had to. I don't want to know
you

820
00:48:15,330 --> 00:48:19,110
do want to know this is funny.
Because we were trying we were

821
00:48:19,110 --> 00:48:21,600
trying to conceive Christina and
of course you know, you had a

822
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,790
certain point you're going
through tests and everything.

823
00:48:24,090 --> 00:48:27,510
And you know obviously they're
like, they check my my sperm

824
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:30,750
like dude, you really got to lay
off the weed man, your sperm

825
00:48:30,750 --> 00:48:33,420
swimmin backwards, like okay, so
I stopped smoking weed for a

826
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:35,010
day. So you had stone

827
00:48:35,010 --> 00:48:40,860
sperm, sperm, man, which way but
then you go this way.

828
00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:48,390
Go towards the light. Oh, the
wrong way, man. And so for

829
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:52,110
weeks, I had to take a sample to
the hospital but I was on MTV

830
00:48:52,110 --> 00:48:54,720
and I was living in Jersey had
to drive into New York. So I

831
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:58,320
would have to get a sample in
the jar. Keep it under my armpit

832
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,600
to keep it warm. And I had the
the MTV guy hair and the leather

833
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,360
jacket and everything would have
to go to the nurses and like,

834
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:11,070
here it is. Guess what, I guess
what I just did? Hey, let's get

835
00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:13,710
that jerked off Curry's gum and
again today.

836
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:18,360
very embarrassing. Alright,
anyway, so yes, you don't want

837
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,220
to go there? Not a good idea.
No,

838
00:49:20,730 --> 00:49:24,750
he's gonna do it. Anyway.
Second, he'd like to ask if we

839
00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:29,310
can call out his master the
Grand Duke van Pels. mockers to

840
00:49:29,310 --> 00:49:34,800
send me a note at peace. Peace
Peace in Be at

841
00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:38,190
peace NBe at Taylor net Ben Bay.

842
00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:43,470
Okay. With contact information
being on a social media or mail

843
00:49:43,470 --> 00:49:46,500
I'm sure he can use another
local servant to do his bidding

844
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,640
yes or third. Finally adding
reading Atlas Shrugged and

845
00:49:50,640 --> 00:50:00,990
liking it oh gee whiz by iron
Rand and liking it fourth, I

846
00:50:00,990 --> 00:50:05,520
want to plug the Santo movie
looking for funds in Indiegogo

847
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,000
for the heck of it. PS I want to
call out all ignorant Belgians

848
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,790
as douchebags and an LG why for
all the Belgian people making a

849
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:21,060
change like the Grand Duke,
okay, Louie, Louie and even John

850
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:27,540
Pierre Van Rossum wrong Valtteri
blur. Poor song novels poor

851
00:50:27,540 --> 00:50:31,560
Mimi, Mickey and John and Adam
peace be coniferous

852
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:38,010
Connor falls for me, me Mickey,
John and Adam. Okay, and let me

853
00:50:38,010 --> 00:50:41,700
well, we need the karma now hold
on so I'm sure we'll do an LG y

854
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:44,100
in that as well. That's
important I think you've got

855
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:44,880
karma

856
00:50:48,030 --> 00:50:52,320
Terry Morgan in far Hills, New
Jersey $233 Well wish I made a

857
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,070
donation for some travel karma
before we left for Croatia. Oh,

858
00:50:56,130 --> 00:50:58,830
my husband got food poisoning
was all it was probably on the

859
00:50:58,830 --> 00:51:02,460
plane. Yeah, because all the
effects don't eat fruit on the

860
00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:04,140
plane Porsche ran out here.

861
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:06,990
There's no hitting the night
before they had to fly out fly

862
00:51:06,990 --> 00:51:09,420
home. So it was it was
incredible. It was in Croatia.

863
00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:12,330
If you have you ever been sick
and you had to go fly?

864
00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:15,750
I have rules about this.

865
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:19,230
I do. You do not eat or dive.

866
00:51:20,550 --> 00:51:22,590
There's certain things I will
not do the night before a flight

867
00:51:22,590 --> 00:51:26,730
especially coming back. One of
them is I won't have sushi or

868
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:29,040
any fish whatsoever. Or I make
the

869
00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:32,640
board bisque. I firmly believe
you should never have bisque.

870
00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:36,960
bisque. Yeah, bisque. Well, I
make a rule not to have bisque

871
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,930
in general. Yeah, lobster bisque
is always Yeah, no, I wouldn't

872
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:42,720
have any of those. No don't no
seafood. What is this? What is

873
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:47,490
in the bisque? bisque is
essentially just a soup. I think

874
00:51:47,490 --> 00:51:50,400
I'm generally I think is a cream
soup as of meat based

875
00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:54,750
food poisoning soup. Kobe. I
always got to be careful. I had

876
00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:56,580
the lobster biscuit was so sick.

877
00:51:57,180 --> 00:52:01,320
We had a situation here's a good
story. Oh boy. So we're in one

878
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,870
tent. We made a mistake. I made
this mistake of having sushi at

879
00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:06,420
a very high end sushi place
where they were trying to make

880
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:07,080
you sick. You know?

881
00:52:08,430 --> 00:52:10,740
They try to make the thing it's
funny. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

882
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:11,490
Jelly fish

883
00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:17,310
roll, please. Okay, so I got
kind of sick on a the night

884
00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:20,790
before I had to take a flight to
Dallas. And I was like nausea.

885
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:23,400
So I bought some of these crazy
little creosote pills that they

886
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,250
sell for the Japanese good for
your stomach get just kills.

887
00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:29,640
Just just stomach goes. Okay, a
guy kills everything in the

888
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,980
stomach. It's great stuff, but
you can't use them too often.

889
00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:36,240
But I had him on the plane. I
forgot. I gotta take two more of

890
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:40,080
these pills. And so I Oh, the
thing is when you open the jar

891
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:46,530
of pills to play now smells like
it's on fire. Really? Yeah, it's

892
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,620
stinks. And so the open the jar,
people who know about these

893
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:52,830
little black pills know what I'm
talking about. And so I pulled

894
00:52:52,830 --> 00:52:56,130
the thing out and I take the two
pills. And then all of a sudden,

895
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:59,220
there's a bunch of stewardesses
scrambling all over the place.

896
00:52:59,220 --> 00:52:59,370
Now.

897
00:53:01,050 --> 00:53:03,270
We're on fire. We gotta check
the window.

898
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:07,590
On another fire. We're coming
back. And Eric apparently was a

899
00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:10,710
little younger, and he got sick
as a dog and he's puking all

900
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:14,280
over the place on this flight
back. And it was weird. Mimi was

901
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:14,970
really irked about this.

902
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,020
That's when that's when the
child becomes your wife's child.

903
00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:22,620
Yeah, I was. Honey, your son is
puking everywhere.

904
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:29,190
So he's puking into this bag.
And why is that? He's in the

905
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:31,560
middle of nobody's gonna change.

906
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:33,840
Dude, Here, take my aisle seat.

907
00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:37,170
They wouldn't do it. So he's got
to keep getting up as people as

908
00:53:37,170 --> 00:53:40,410
puke is dripping all over the
place. And he's getting his

909
00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:42,990
barfing into a bag. He's
barfing. I think he had a cup

910
00:53:42,990 --> 00:53:45,870
filled a couple bags. And so and
he puts the bags down on the

911
00:53:45,870 --> 00:53:51,480
floor. No, it's kind of a rough
landing. And so the bags as we

912
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:58,080
got up, the bags were missing.
Were leaving the flight. So we

913
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,250
just snuck off the plane. Oh,
that's disgusting, John. It was

914
00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:02,940
a good story.

915
00:54:02,970 --> 00:54:07,590
Hey, by the way, regarding the
sushi, I met in Marfa. We were

916
00:54:07,590 --> 00:54:12,480
in Marfa, Texas. right past few
days I met the guy who directed

917
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,950
and produced the documentary
sushi the global catch, which

918
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:20,220
it's apparently is really good
is award winning. And it's about

919
00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:23,280
the whole DVD from him. I'm all
set out. I just haven't had time

920
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,070
to watch because we only got
back yesterday. This guy's very

921
00:54:26,070 --> 00:54:29,130
interesting Mark Hall. So I'll
let you know about that. That

922
00:54:29,130 --> 00:54:33,000
may that may be a tip for no
agenda to watch list.

923
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,920
Okay, all right, let's Terry
Moore. I got my best flights

924
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,540
doorbell save for later.
233 3004 Hills, New Jersey.

925
00:54:42,570 --> 00:54:45,090
Well, I wish I made a donation
for some travel calm before we

926
00:54:45,090 --> 00:54:48,180
left from Croatia. My husband
got food poisoning as we said,

927
00:54:48,510 --> 00:54:51,270
the night before we had to fly
home I'm donating $100 for my

928
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:55,260
husband $100 for my brother and
his wife to get out of Turkey

929
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:01,170
without any incidents and $33
Since I live off East exit 33 in

930
00:55:01,170 --> 00:55:05,580
New Jersey and I do sing the
exit the 33 Jingle as I exit

931
00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:06,000
okay, we'll

932
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,960
give you a double shot

933
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:20,250
karma we haven't done Uteri. And
Craig Martin finishes us off

934
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:24,510
with oh, actually two more we
had Craig Martin in Fairbanks,

935
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:29,460
Alaska with no comment and then
anonymous from from Worcester,

936
00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:34,950
Massachusetts $200. And that'll
be our Executive Associate

937
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:38,700
Executive producers for show 547
I want to thank everybody who

938
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:41,850
donated to keep the show going
and also to remind everyone to

939
00:55:41,850 --> 00:55:44,970
go to divorce dad org slash and
a challenge of org.com/and a

940
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:49,410
also the no agenda show.com site
look for the donate button and

941
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,780
also no agenda nation.com

942
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:54,420
Yes, and let me program your
brain one more time to

943
00:55:54,420 --> 00:56:01,320
vorak.org/and a two quick PR
mentions one and I received a

944
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,330
guest I don't know if you
received it. You probably got it

945
00:56:03,330 --> 00:56:07,620
the PIO box and if you've been
John, we are now out one day and

946
00:56:07,620 --> 00:56:10,590
Gitmo nation. This is now self
published by Scott McKenzie, our

947
00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:13,320
producer who wrote the book
based upon no agenda. It is

948
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,000
actually it says here a no
agenda novel. And I've read that

949
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,100
did you read the book when you
got the transcript?

950
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,470
No, I didn't.

951
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:26,610
Okay, it is a it's an
outstanding product. It's a very

952
00:56:26,610 --> 00:56:30,690
funny book. Because it has every
every single no agenda meme in

953
00:56:30,690 --> 00:56:36,300
there but it's also a good story
with a kind of a kind of a twist

954
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:40,320
and I'm not going to spoil it.
It's a beautiful beautiful book

955
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,810
it's hard cover anyway, he's
doing a Kickstarter to do this,

956
00:56:45,810 --> 00:56:49,530
I guess is a one of those Amazon
one off things but it's not

957
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:53,610
cheap by any means. I mean, this
is like a real book. Yeah, it's

958
00:56:53,610 --> 00:56:53,790
one

959
00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:56,610
of the Amazon does these things
beautiful with it. I have to say

960
00:56:56,610 --> 00:56:57,900
that I never got this book.

961
00:56:58,230 --> 00:57:02,130
I it came while we were gone. So
maybe it came yesterday. And

962
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,500
yours probably went to the PIO
box. I don't know when you're at

963
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:05,190
the PIO box. I

964
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:09,060
went to the PIO box. So I go on
Wednesdays and Saturdays. Okay,

965
00:57:09,090 --> 00:57:09,480
well,

966
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:12,030
we'll make sure Scott gets you
on and there's a link in the

967
00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:16,380
show notes. To the Kickstarter,
he's looking for a couple 100

968
00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:20,220
pounds to get this thing
published and I'm going to

969
00:57:20,220 --> 00:57:24,690
contribute because I I'm just
tickled pink that this is an

970
00:57:24,690 --> 00:57:26,250
actual book based upon all of

971
00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:28,200
your tickled pink that something

972
00:57:29,850 --> 00:57:34,800
and the latest no agenda CD is
out. Now this is changed a

973
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,580
little bit but you gotta know
agenda cd.com or the direct link

974
00:57:38,580 --> 00:57:42,930
in the show notes. The you can
download all the individual bits

975
00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:47,190
but it's about an hour long. And
you can download the was it the

976
00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:50,490
the ISOs or whatever you call it
to the album art everything you

977
00:57:50,490 --> 00:57:55,890
need for the latest no agenda
CD, titled Syria or bust. And

978
00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:59,670
this is a great little primer,
or primer as John would call it.

979
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:03,750
For those that you want to hit
in the mouth, it's one one hour

980
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:06,360
they can listen, it's quick
bits. It's all you know, a

981
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,680
little intersperse intermingled
thing to the best pieces. And it

982
00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:12,960
I think gets people interested
we've had several people that

983
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,410
we've given these CDs to and
they have turned into listeners.

984
00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:21,720
So we thank thank both of our
producers there for for that

985
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,660
work. And of course thank you to
our Associate Executive

986
00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:28,650
Producer, Sir David Foley, Duke
of Silicon Valley, also sole

987
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:31,770
member of the 547 Club social
executive producers Andy

988
00:58:31,770 --> 00:58:35,640
Pillman. Terry Morgan, Craig
Martin and Unani mouse we

989
00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:39,030
appreciate what you're doing to
keep the show on the road and

990
00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:42,690
please go out propagate the
formula from time to time our

991
00:58:42,690 --> 00:58:47,130
formula is this we go out we hit
people in the mouth

992
00:59:02,970 --> 00:59:09,090
bumped into a couple of
interesting things as I've been

993
00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:12,630
desperately searching to find
anything else that's going on

994
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:16,170
and you know what was being
shoved down our throats? It was

995
00:59:16,170 --> 00:59:19,800
kind of interesting listening to
man radio was so lost in this

996
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,900
country. It is impossible just
traveling from if you're driving

997
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:29,220
for more than an hour at a
distance you're losing these

998
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:31,080
stations you can't listen to
anything

999
00:59:33,210 --> 00:59:35,970
yeah there's been a new ruling
the FCC especially if you're

1000
00:59:35,970 --> 00:59:40,770
driving at night the FCC is
required them to turn down the

1001
00:59:40,770 --> 00:59:44,790
power Oh really? Yeah. So they
there's a big division about

1002
00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:48,360
this to turn on the power
because of the big the big flame

1003
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,780
thrower stations with the 50,000
watts right at once the

1004
00:59:51,810 --> 00:59:56,010
ionosphere comes into play at
night. They drown out the local

1005
00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:59,250
right but you're talking about
the AM's Yeah, right years. Oh

1006
00:59:59,250 --> 00:59:59,970
FM M

1007
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,320
I'm not just talking Oh yeah,
you've

1008
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:02,640
got no distance, you can

1009
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:07,170
barely hear anything. I mean, no
wonder no wonder streaming radio

1010
01:00:07,170 --> 01:00:11,910
is going to win over everything.
Now, in fact, even though it was

1011
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:14,640
piss poor driving all the way
out to Marfa, which is about six

1012
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,660
now, six and a half hour drive
from from Austin, through and

1013
01:00:18,690 --> 01:00:26,340
through to West Texas, but it
was just noticeable that you

1014
01:00:26,340 --> 01:00:29,400
cannot listen. I mean, you try
to listen to NPR and then you

1015
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,880
know, you lose the station. And
then it comes back again. And

1016
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,370
then it's only country
essentially, would I like to be

1017
01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:38,340
some good country, but it's just
it's impossible to get any other

1018
01:00:38,790 --> 01:00:42,390
type of information. And then
when you do get the station,

1019
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:46,950
it's the same thing over and
over and over again, and

1020
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:51,690
inconspicuous dumb. Do some
hunting around because I'm, you

1021
01:00:51,690 --> 01:00:54,540
know, I'm thinking there's so
many things that just drop off

1022
01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:58,980
the radar that we don't hear
anything about anymore. And, and

1023
01:00:58,980 --> 01:01:02,460
of course, I'm still very
interested in how the Snowden

1024
01:01:02,460 --> 01:01:07,680
thing is unpacking. Now we know
that jet again, new documents

1025
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,690
have come to light magically,
that the NSA is sharing. I love

1026
01:01:12,690 --> 01:01:13,770
the sharing mean,

1027
01:01:13,799 --> 01:01:16,709
by the way, this story had
gotten zero play in the

1028
01:01:16,709 --> 01:01:17,369
mainstream,

1029
01:01:17,759 --> 01:01:19,259
about the sharing with Israel.

1030
01:01:19,590 --> 01:01:23,310
Yeah, apparently, Israel's got
all of our data. Yeah.

1031
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:26,460
And soon they will have your
fingerprint from the iPhone

1032
01:01:26,460 --> 01:01:31,950
five. Yeah, I'm gonna be buying
that. Does anyone else? I mean,

1033
01:01:31,950 --> 01:01:37,020
does anyone else see the fallacy
in that in the what necessity is

1034
01:01:37,020 --> 01:01:41,040
there? To put a fingerprint
scanner on your iPhone? What is

1035
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,500
the actual necessity? Even from
a coolness factor? It's dumb.

1036
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,210
Does it make any sense? either?
No.

1037
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:54,420
Doesn't make any sense
whatsoever other than to store

1038
01:01:54,420 --> 01:01:58,740
it to have it I guess. And we
know, we know that, you know,

1039
01:01:58,950 --> 01:02:01,890
only six or eight months after
Steve Jobs died. That's when

1040
01:02:01,890 --> 01:02:06,570
Apple signed on board with
prison. Right? I'm in the market

1041
01:02:06,570 --> 01:02:09,750
for an iPhone three. I think
those were the good ones. I

1042
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:13,530
think those are the ones that
are still safe. Anyway, so you

1043
01:02:13,530 --> 01:02:16,440
know, this, this story comes
out. And again, if you haven't

1044
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,220
heard it, apparently, according
to a memorandum and all we have

1045
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:24,900
is a document it doesn't really
give me much more than that. Is

1046
01:02:25,230 --> 01:02:29,580
that the NSA takes the raw data,
doesn't cleanse it. But

1047
01:02:29,580 --> 01:02:32,250
regardless, I mean, I don't care
who they're spying on. They're

1048
01:02:32,250 --> 01:02:35,400
spying on people and then giving
it to other countries including

1049
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,000
Israel.

1050
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:39,900
And I find that they actually
like a mailing list company.

1051
01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:44,370
I find this to be outrageous.
Seriously, just outrageous that

1052
01:02:44,370 --> 01:02:49,380
this is taking place. And then I
find I'm always looking at at

1053
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:52,920
the players and Laura Poitras
is, of course very interesting

1054
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:56,130
person in all of this. She is
the one that apparently had the

1055
01:02:56,130 --> 01:02:59,700
first contact and MacArthur
Foundation winner. Now she's she

1056
01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:03,390
takes money from at least she
half of her documentary and she

1057
01:03:03,420 --> 01:03:08,340
and she came to Edward Snowden
as part of a documentary she's

1058
01:03:08,370 --> 01:03:13,530
already making. She that is
partially funded by her

1059
01:03:13,530 --> 01:03:16,920
MacArthur Foundation grant and
from the Bertha foundation we

1060
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,380
also know the story behind that
pure anti Israel organization.

1061
01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:25,050
So there's this players, there's
big big players and all of this

1062
01:03:25,050 --> 01:03:28,860
and there's lots of money going
around. And and then I stumble

1063
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:33,570
upon, the guy had kind of
forgotten about Jacob Appelbaum.

1064
01:03:33,930 --> 01:03:36,540
He's back in the picture again.
Now do we remember Jacob

1065
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:37,140
Appelbaum?

1066
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:40,800
The name or Isabel and I think
we've discussed him before

1067
01:03:40,830 --> 01:03:44,670
Jacob Appelbaum is the guy who
all of a sudden popped onto the

1068
01:03:44,670 --> 01:03:48,900
scene as the spokesperson for
Julian Assange back and all that

1069
01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:55,080
guy. He is the Navy guy who co
created co founded the Tor

1070
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,140
network, now known to be
compromised.

1071
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,010
Right, right. Yeah, I know who
this is. Yeah, Applebaum. He

1072
01:04:02,010 --> 01:04:02,970
gives good speeches.

1073
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:08,400
Well, if you were to hold a
whistleblower award ceremony,

1074
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,150
where would you have this
ceremony?

1075
01:04:13,380 --> 01:04:16,140
Well, I think the funniest place
to have it would be somewhere in

1076
01:04:16,140 --> 01:04:17,340
the Virginia area.

1077
01:04:18,750 --> 01:04:25,740
Yeah, no, it's in Berlin. Of
course, why not in Berlin? And,

1078
01:04:26,580 --> 01:04:31,680
of course, who wins and award
Edward Snowden but who accepts

1079
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,760
the award on his behalf? Well,
bomb Gee, there he is, again,

1080
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,830
ladies and gentlemen. And I
think we should listen to a

1081
01:04:37,830 --> 01:04:41,310
little bit of his his speech. I
have a couple clips here. I've

1082
01:04:41,310 --> 01:04:44,760
broken it up a little bit just
so we can. We can dissect it,

1083
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,960
but I'm very suspicious of Apple
bombs role in all of this. It

1084
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,400
sounds to me, in fact, a bit
like he's running. A little bit

1085
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,830
of interference, maybe even for
whichever agency he represents.

1086
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,020
I'm not sure which one it is.
But no, let's just listen to you

1087
01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:04,470
tonight.

1088
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:09,120
It's, it's quite an honor,
actually. And it's really a

1089
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,240
privilege and especially to have
someone like Laura, in the

1090
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,810
audience here with us and to
have Glenn also, to send a

1091
01:05:15,810 --> 01:05:21,060
video. I would speak with you in
German, but this seems like a

1092
01:05:21,060 --> 01:05:23,490
place where I should be able to
express myself naturally. And

1093
01:05:23,490 --> 01:05:23,940
it's Emily

1094
01:05:23,940 --> 01:05:28,110
and she question, why wouldn't
Laura Poitras accept the award?

1095
01:05:28,110 --> 01:05:32,370
Why does Applebaum have to come
into this? What sense does this

1096
01:05:32,370 --> 01:05:32,880
make?

1097
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:35,939
What sense does it make that he
has to express it in his own

1098
01:05:35,939 --> 01:05:37,889
language? is freedom of speech a

1099
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:41,399
little difficult for me so I
apologize if English is not easy

1100
01:05:41,399 --> 01:05:43,169
for you? I'll try to not speak
too quickly.

1101
01:05:44,790 --> 01:05:47,670
By the way, Germans have no
problem understanding your

1102
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:49,860
English dude. When I spoke

1103
01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:50,370
with

1104
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:53,700
no you know, who would stop for
a second this has to be

1105
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:56,430
reconsidered this this this
commentary when he says he has

1106
01:05:56,430 --> 01:06:00,060
to speak in English, there's
some code coming out that he

1107
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:01,290
can't do in German.

1108
01:06:02,580 --> 01:06:04,500
Like a nuance. Yeah,

1109
01:06:04,529 --> 01:06:07,049
there's a nuance or something he
has to say for somebody's

1110
01:06:07,049 --> 01:06:10,079
benefit. That has to be said in
English because it won't make

1111
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:11,429
any sense in German. Let's
listen

1112
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:12,420
to it against you tonight.

1113
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:17,040
It's it's quite an honor,
actually. And it's really a

1114
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,160
privilege and especially to have
someone like Laura in the

1115
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,210
audience here with us and to
have Glenn also, to send a video

1116
01:06:25,020 --> 01:06:28,980
I would speak with you in
German, but this seems like a

1117
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:31,440
place where I should be able to
express myself naturally and

1118
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,320
it's a little difficult for me
so I apologize if English is not

1119
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:36,870
Oh, no, I know what it is
because what he's saying is not

1120
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:39,510
intended for the German audience
is intended for the American

1121
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:40,080
audience.

1122
01:06:40,110 --> 01:06:42,690
Yes. Like to sign as you see in
these protests are written in

1123
01:06:42,690 --> 01:06:45,480
English. Let's ask him that to
go back to the other concept,

1124
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,620
though. I didn't really show
Greenwald and Laura are both out

1125
01:06:49,620 --> 01:06:50,760
in the audience. Laura's

1126
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,660
in the audience Greenwald sent
in a video. Okay. You know, I

1127
01:06:54,690 --> 01:06:56,430
recorded a little little video.

1128
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,240
Okay, I'll just let it slide.
But it just seemed you're right

1129
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:00,900
is stupid.

1130
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:04,800
I mean, for Laura Poitras, not
to be she's the one that had the

1131
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,880
contact she has. She's the one
that's been the center of all of

1132
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,210
this. Why is she getting up on?
Why is she getting up on stage

1133
01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:14,520
and accepting this? Yes, she
should.

1134
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:19,950
Easy for you. I'll try to not
speak too quickly. When I spoke

1135
01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:25,410
with Edward Snowden this
evening, she wanted me to convey

1136
01:07:25,590 --> 01:07:29,670
a message to you, which I will
read. But he also wanted me to

1137
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:34,080
not talk too much about
geopolitics. And not to talk too

1138
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:39,120
much about all of the things
that everyone else has already

1139
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,630
said this evening. And instead,
he wanted me to talk about

1140
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,660
individuals to talk about
people. He wanted me to talk

1141
01:07:45,660 --> 01:07:47,790
about hope for change.

1142
01:07:47,879 --> 01:07:56,819
Really, really. He wanted me to
talk about hope for change. Was

1143
01:07:56,819 --> 01:08:02,879
this guy Barack Obama three now?
Strange. I'm sorry. Are you

1144
01:08:02,879 --> 01:08:09,479
doing another show somewhere in
another room? But are you okay?

1145
01:08:10,980 --> 01:08:15,060
I did. What is the new rig I set
up over here? Right? Yeah, so I

1146
01:08:15,060 --> 01:08:21,720
knocked over the microphone.
Stand up just now getting put

1147
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:22,470
back where it belongs.

1148
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:25,650
And it landed on the cat's tail,
the captain jumped up, hit the

1149
01:08:25,650 --> 01:08:28,710
lampshade, the lampshade tipped
over. And that disrupted your

1150
01:08:28,710 --> 01:08:31,350
entire poise on your chaise
lounge. Anyway,

1151
01:08:31,380 --> 01:08:32,370
finished this clip off.

1152
01:08:32,730 --> 01:08:35,340
And this reminded me of
something that one of the

1153
01:08:35,340 --> 01:08:38,040
greatest American whistleblowers
to ever live is famous for

1154
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:42,720
saying that is Daniel Ellsberg.
He said, courage is contagious.

1155
01:08:43,530 --> 01:08:47,340
And I see amongst people here in
the audience, a number, a number

1156
01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:52,050
of people who embody that Laura,
being the clear, winner of that

1157
01:08:52,050 --> 01:08:52,710
so far.

1158
01:08:54,569 --> 01:08:57,869
A little sickening. And I think
why why would she not a

1159
01:08:57,869 --> 01:09:01,109
whistleblower? She hasn't blown
any whistles?

1160
01:09:01,859 --> 01:09:03,959
And if she had, why is she
getting the award? Like you

1161
01:09:03,959 --> 01:09:07,979
said, initially, there's even a
name other names. Now stay

1162
01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:08,340
tuned.

1163
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,240
It is important to talk about
what each of us have as a

1164
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,140
personal agency. That is to say,
each and every one of us has the

1165
01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:17,250
ability to what do you just

1166
01:09:17,250 --> 01:09:20,880
say there? Oh, my second watch
said something about his

1167
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:21,960
personal agency.

1168
01:09:22,050 --> 01:09:25,950
His personal agency was I didn't
know that. Were they doing

1169
01:09:25,980 --> 01:09:29,130
franchising? Let's have another
listen to that. Would you like

1170
01:09:29,130 --> 01:09:32,100
to have your own personal
intelligence agency? My friend,

1171
01:09:32,130 --> 01:09:32,460
well,

1172
01:09:32,490 --> 01:09:35,640
can I have challenge coins to go
with that agency then you got to

1173
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,270
do

1174
01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:41,070
and I see amongst people here in
the audience, a number a number

1175
01:09:41,070 --> 01:09:45,780
of people who embody that Laura,
being the clear winner of that

1176
01:09:45,780 --> 01:09:50,460
so far. And I think that it is
important to talk about what

1177
01:09:50,460 --> 01:09:53,460
each of us have as our personal
agency. You're right.

1178
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:57,750
This is a weird thing to say.
What each of each of us has our

1179
01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:00,780
own personal agency. That is to
say Add each and

1180
01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:04,770
every handlers, well, he's gonna
let it slip out. And there's

1181
01:10:04,770 --> 01:10:05,790
something wrong with this.

1182
01:10:06,930 --> 01:10:08,400
He's explaining it here.

1183
01:10:09,150 --> 01:10:12,600
Every one of us has the ability
to stand against corruption, to

1184
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,560
stand against war crimes, to
stand against things that we

1185
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,450
know are obvious lies that are
done in our name. For each and

1186
01:10:21,450 --> 01:10:25,260
every one of us when we choose
it, in each of the actions we do

1187
01:10:25,260 --> 01:10:27,840
every single day, it's a very
straightforward and simple

1188
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:33,990
thing. And so it is, I think,
important to think of this not

1189
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:35,490
as an issue of internet freedom.

1190
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:40,050
Whoa, internet freedom, Ooh,
careful, careful, careful when

1191
01:10:40,050 --> 01:10:42,840
you say these things, because
that means you're on the wrong

1192
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,070
side of the fence, dude, but

1193
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:48,210
as a question of our own
personal liberties, and we must

1194
01:10:48,210 --> 01:10:51,420
have a consciousness raising
about our own role in this. So

1195
01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:54,810
when we, when we talk about
spying on the internet, we

1196
01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:57,840
should not pretend we are exempt
from this, because in fact, it

1197
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,170
is a question of spying on our
very lives in every aspect of

1198
01:11:01,170 --> 01:11:04,560
our lives, so as to be able to
literally, in some cases, try to

1199
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:05,430
read our minds.

1200
01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:11,430
Alright, now I'm going to play
this out of order. Because the

1201
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:16,260
actual note he has from Snowden,
I think, is written by the same

1202
01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:21,720
PR lady who wrote the New York
Times op ed for Putin. So let's

1203
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:25,380
just skip ahead, and we can come
back to that. An apple bomb is

1204
01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:27,810
talking about why he's in
Berlin.

1205
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,260
I think, though, that what he
meant is something that many of

1206
01:11:31,260 --> 01:11:34,200
us have felt, which is why Laura
lives in Berlin, which is why I

1207
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,760
now live in Berlin. Oh,

1208
01:11:35,790 --> 01:11:39,240
hold on a second. Oh, they live
in Berlin. Why do you live in

1209
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:39,750
Berlin?

1210
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:42,960
Germany has because you're so
courageous history with these

1211
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,470
types of issues. That is not
forgotten. But it is, in fact,

1212
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:49,800
carried forth and remembered
today. This is something which

1213
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:55,110
is so important, because it is
not that at all crap, or Laura's

1214
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:58,950
journalism, or my standing here
is against the United States.

1215
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:59,220
Wait a

1216
01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:02,430
minute, wait, let's let's roll
that back for a second. Let's

1217
01:12:02,430 --> 01:12:03,270
you say here,

1218
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:09,420
that Edward Snowden or Laura's
journalism, or my standing here

1219
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:13,500
is against the United States, it
is actually the case that we are

1220
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:16,380
American citizens asking for
your solidarity and your help,

1221
01:12:16,770 --> 01:12:18,930
because there are certain
corrupt individuals in our

1222
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:21,780
government who have taken it.
And they have done things in our

1223
01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:24,750
name, that are simply wrong

1224
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:28,890
planet. So he's now saying, the
middle Clap, clap, clap. He's

1225
01:12:28,890 --> 01:12:33,570
saying that they live in
Germany, because they can't live

1226
01:12:33,570 --> 01:12:36,300
in America because they are
corrupt individuals who have

1227
01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:42,420
done wrong. By rogue, let's
listen to the second part of

1228
01:12:42,420 --> 01:12:43,740
this explanation to

1229
01:12:43,740 --> 01:12:47,040
the individuals that are here,
each and every one of us. What I

1230
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,600
hope is that it will be possible
for each of you to recognize

1231
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,500
that there are people in the
United States who need to learn

1232
01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:59,040
from the history that each of
you has learned that many of you

1233
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,360
have lived. And that right now
is so sorely lacking in the

1234
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:08,040
debate and in the discussion. We
must not let history especially

1235
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,980
German history of the 20th and
the early 21st century be

1236
01:13:10,980 --> 01:13:11,490
forgotten.

1237
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:16,080
Okay, hold on, he is going to a
never again moment, I might

1238
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,820
point out, he is Jewish. So he's
he's doing polling a Debbie

1239
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:24,540
Wasserman Schultz in a way where
she literally said never again,

1240
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:27,420
regarding Syria, now he's doing
and never again. And he's

1241
01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:30,150
claiming that people in the
audience will remember this.

1242
01:13:32,130 --> 01:13:34,590
That people in the How old are
these people in the audience.

1243
01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:38,670
This is something that was
learned through very hard, very

1244
01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:42,090
hard times. And it is something
that the rest of humanity is not

1245
01:13:42,090 --> 01:13:46,500
exempt from. And so it is my
hope that if each and every

1246
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:50,880
single one of you were to adopt
an American, or simply to reach

1247
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:56,340
out as individuals, this is
something that can create

1248
01:13:56,340 --> 01:14:00,870
change, when it is a German that
speaks to the world and says

1249
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,350
these things, they scare me the
same way that the Stasi says

1250
01:14:04,350 --> 01:14:08,610
that song scares me. When I see
these things, and they remind me

1251
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:12,600
of secret police action. When I
see political crackdowns, when I

1252
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,970
see journalists being treated as
terrorists, it reminds me of

1253
01:14:14,970 --> 01:14:18,810
darker times. And to show what
those darker times are to talk

1254
01:14:18,810 --> 01:14:21,360
about the relationship and to
talk about the progression past

1255
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,510
that that kind of personal
connection is something that

1256
01:14:24,510 --> 01:14:27,540
allows people to move past their
fear, which is controlling them

1257
01:14:27,540 --> 01:14:31,410
now. And so, what I want to
leave you with is the same thing

1258
01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:34,500
that Edward Snowden has left
with me, I think, and with all

1259
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:38,130
of us, hopefully, which is that
courage is contagious. And it is

1260
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:42,870
up to all of us now to follow on
with what he has started. Thank

1261
01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:43,050
you.

1262
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,900
I don't understand this. This
and if you want, I can play the

1263
01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:51,330
note from Snowden. But maybe
it's better.

1264
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:53,760
I'm gonna have to hear the note
from Snowden. You're gonna have

1265
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,310
to play it because now this is
getting weird. It's

1266
01:14:56,340 --> 01:14:59,010
annoying, isn't it? I mean, so
for this kind of courage.

1267
01:14:59,639 --> 01:15:02,549
It's a little condescending it's
a little patronizing. It's a

1268
01:15:02,549 --> 01:15:03,929
little much

1269
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,020
and for someone who has said
he's living in Germany in

1270
01:15:07,020 --> 01:15:12,210
Berlin, and of course there's
nothing wrong with Germany. No

1271
01:15:12,210 --> 01:15:16,290
Angela Merkel is great. If
nothing at all nothing with the

1272
01:15:16,290 --> 01:15:20,220
European Central Bank or the
Troika, or screwing Southern

1273
01:15:20,220 --> 01:15:23,520
Europe out these these people
are fantastic. They're honest.

1274
01:15:23,670 --> 01:15:28,110
Berlin is great. And but your
your the courage is so

1275
01:15:28,110 --> 01:15:30,360
contagious. You have to live
there because of the corrupt

1276
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:36,960
individuals in America. I take
it as an insult. Come over, come

1277
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,780
back home man. And

1278
01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:43,020
he's, he's obviously he's there
for a different reason. There's

1279
01:15:43,020 --> 01:15:46,680
something up with him. And he
knows he's got either a target

1280
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,580
on his back or that somebody's
gonna beat him up, or I don't

1281
01:15:50,580 --> 01:15:53,010
know. But this is this is
bullcrap. In fact, I think you'd

1282
01:15:53,070 --> 01:15:56,790
be surprised you haven't played
the bullshit. little jingle

1283
01:15:57,540 --> 01:16:02,310
bullshit. I have it just. It's
just, it's bullshit. That's all

1284
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:03,720
I'm thinking when listening to
this.

1285
01:16:04,230 --> 01:16:08,970
Let's listen to the to the
letter that Snowden sent. And

1286
01:16:08,970 --> 01:16:12,690
for some reason, Glenn Greenwald
could make a video Laura Poitras

1287
01:16:12,690 --> 01:16:17,550
could be there. Jacob Appelbaum
who has no job as far as I can

1288
01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:21,840
tell. I look at his book of
knowledge entry, he has no job.

1289
01:16:23,550 --> 01:16:24,000
So

1290
01:16:24,030 --> 01:16:27,300
you know, somebody's got he's
got to he's not. Unless he's

1291
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:29,760
begging on the street. He's
can't afford living in Berlin.

1292
01:16:29,790 --> 01:16:33,330
Yeah, so he's doing something.
It's funny that the Wikipedia

1293
01:16:33,330 --> 01:16:37,410
page makes more an issue of him
being bisexual than what job he

1294
01:16:37,410 --> 01:16:41,280
has. Wikipedia is a very strange
book of knowledge. I'll tell you

1295
01:16:42,450 --> 01:16:44,430
why. But anyway, that of course,
if I go to Berlin, I have a

1296
01:16:44,430 --> 01:16:46,710
chance of seducing him and
getting all kinds of information

1297
01:16:46,710 --> 01:16:49,920
out of him. Yeah,

1298
01:16:50,670 --> 01:16:53,520
but when I spoke with him this
evening, his first question was

1299
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,520
not about how things would go,
but he asked me if I had slept.

1300
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,850
She asked me how I was feeling.
And I told him that I was fine.

1301
01:17:03,150 --> 01:17:08,190
And he said, Are you sure? What?
This is a person who really

1302
01:17:08,190 --> 01:17:12,540
cares about other people? This
is a well he has been attacked.

1303
01:17:12,750 --> 01:17:13,590
That's what that was.

1304
01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:19,260
Yes, he asked me how I'm doing
have I slept he really cares

1305
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:21,750
about other people. He's
wondering if you're like at a

1306
01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:24,120
gun to somebody's got a gun to
your head? Probably.

1307
01:17:24,660 --> 01:17:27,210
No, but this is because I don't
believe this is a note from

1308
01:17:27,210 --> 01:17:28,470
Edward Snowden. I

1309
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:31,590
obvious it's probably well
anyway, we would get finished

1310
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:32,460
I'm sorry, interrupt

1311
01:17:32,490 --> 01:17:36,540
and relentlessly smeared by the
propaganda machines. He is a

1312
01:17:36,540 --> 01:17:39,720
person who has thrown himself
onto the gears of that very

1313
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,160
machine. And he has done it for
each and every one of us. And I

1314
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,580
can't actually believe that it
is true, in some sense, because

1315
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:51,990
it just seems so incredibly
powerful. So passionate, and so

1316
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:52,530
beautiful.

1317
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:02,070
We need to do we need to guys on

1318
01:18:02,130 --> 01:18:07,500
E is Ani you know, he asked me
first he said, Have you slept

1319
01:18:09,210 --> 01:18:10,440
it's so beautiful.

1320
01:18:10,740 --> 01:18:14,340
And so with that in mind, I'd
like to read what he had to say.

1321
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:19,530
And I think that this is it's
beautiful. The first time that I

1322
01:18:19,530 --> 01:18:20,640
read it, I cried.

1323
01:18:22,410 --> 01:18:24,210
Oh, play the ball crap

1324
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,270
I gotta roll that back. That's
very funny thing on the top.

1325
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:36,990
This is it's beautiful. The
first time that I read it, I

1326
01:18:36,990 --> 01:18:41,160
cried mostly because he is of
such high moral character.

1327
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,010
high moral character is great.
Are you gonna play the harmonica

1328
01:18:47,010 --> 01:18:51,360
throughout the whole thing? I
should but then play a song then

1329
01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:53,490
and don't just like give me the
tune.

1330
01:18:53,790 --> 01:18:56,280
It really rings true to me. I
can't play.

1331
01:18:56,519 --> 01:18:59,909
He says it is a great honor to
be recognized for the public

1332
01:18:59,909 --> 01:19:03,179
good created by this act of
whistleblowing. However, the

1333
01:19:03,179 --> 01:19:05,939
greater reward and recognition
belongs to the individuals and

1334
01:19:05,939 --> 01:19:08,549
organizations in countless
countries around the world who

1335
01:19:08,549 --> 01:19:12,029
shattered boundaries of language
and geography, to stand together

1336
01:19:12,029 --> 01:19:15,059
in defense of the public right
to know and the value of our

1337
01:19:15,059 --> 01:19:18,779
privacy. It is not I but the
public who is affected this

1338
01:19:18,779 --> 01:19:22,559
powerful change to abrogation of
basic constitutional rights by

1339
01:19:22,559 --> 01:19:26,339
secret agencies. It is not I but
newspapers around the world who

1340
01:19:26,339 --> 01:19:29,519
have reason to hold our
governments to the issues. Fish

1341
01:19:29,519 --> 01:19:30,479
bullshit.

1342
01:19:30,660 --> 01:19:34,530
Hold on a second. It's not I but
the newspapers.

1343
01:19:36,660 --> 01:19:38,370
Wow. He's saying

1344
01:19:38,370 --> 01:19:41,910
the newspapers are the guardians
of reality aggregation

1345
01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:45,780
of basic constitutional rights
by secret agencies. It is not I

1346
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,240
but newspapers around the world
who have reason to hold our

1347
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,090
governments to the issues when
powerful officials sought to

1348
01:19:51,090 --> 01:19:53,340
distract from these very issues.
But this

1349
01:19:53,370 --> 01:19:57,210
this is so so not true. This is
not true.

1350
01:19:58,620 --> 01:20:00,210
I have no idea what he's talking
about. Ah,

1351
01:20:01,050 --> 01:20:04,110
well that's because you're
playing like, Coke bottles with

1352
01:20:04,110 --> 01:20:09,360
water in them. What are you
doing? I'm over

1353
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,240
here by the old the old sound
effect device. You're gonna grab

1354
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:12,600
this one.

1355
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,250
But are you listening?

1356
01:20:14,639 --> 01:20:16,979
Yeah, I'm listening. It's bull
crap. It's just as like, I'm

1357
01:20:16,979 --> 01:20:18,599
surprised you're not playing the
bull crap that

1358
01:20:19,019 --> 01:20:21,119
played continuously we got to
listen to a little

1359
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:25,950
rumor and insult and it is not I
but certain brave

1360
01:20:25,950 --> 01:20:28,380
representatives and governments
around the world who are

1361
01:20:28,380 --> 01:20:31,830
proposing new protections,
limits and safeguards to prevent

1362
01:20:32,220 --> 01:20:33,360
medial shield law.

1363
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,520
That's where that's coming from.
Oh, yeah,

1364
01:20:35,550 --> 01:20:36,600
this is written this is.

1365
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:41,820
I told no. Bullshit. This is
written by the same lady who

1366
01:20:41,820 --> 01:20:43,530
wrote the Putin op ed.

1367
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,590
Yeah, there's a there's a big
script that's playing out in

1368
01:20:46,590 --> 01:20:49,350
front of us. We don't know what
the point is.

1369
01:20:49,380 --> 01:20:50,190
Well, stay

1370
01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:52,590
tuned, we may catch something in
the next two minutes future

1371
01:20:52,590 --> 01:20:56,340
assault on our public rights and
private lives. My gratitude

1372
01:20:56,340 --> 01:20:58,770
belongs to all of those who have
reached out to their friends and

1373
01:20:58,770 --> 01:21:01,140
family to explain why
suspicionless surveillance

1374
01:21:01,140 --> 01:21:05,400
matters. It belongs to the man
in a mask on the street on a hot

1375
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,610
day and a woman with a sign and
an umbrella in the rain.

1376
01:21:09,570 --> 01:21:12,540
John le Carre was busy writing a
novel.

1377
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:16,920
I think he's talking about
anonymous with the mask on and

1378
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:21,270
Mary Poppins apparently with the
lady with the umbrella

1379
01:21:22,620 --> 01:21:25,950
suspicionless surveillance
matters. It belongs to the man

1380
01:21:25,980 --> 01:21:29,760
in a mask on the street on a hot
day and the woman with a sign

1381
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,970
and an umbrella in the rain. It
belongs to the young people in

1382
01:21:32,970 --> 01:21:35,580
college with a civil liberties
sticker on their laptop and the

1383
01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:40,170
kid in the back of a class in
high school making memes all of

1384
01:21:40,170 --> 01:21:40,740
these people

1385
01:21:40,769 --> 01:21:43,259
making memes making me

1386
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:47,310
What is he talking about? Hey,
man, I'm sitting here in the

1387
01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:51,000
back of the class. I'm going to
make a meme. One what's

1388
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:59,190
one 126? What do you remember
when we heard Snowden talk on

1389
01:21:59,190 --> 01:22:02,970
that video? He didn't sound that
prolific like he does now.

1390
01:22:03,390 --> 01:22:06,120
No, no, this is written by
somebody else. But I think

1391
01:22:06,210 --> 01:22:09,780
whoever the somebody else's is
an idiot to say that a kid in

1392
01:22:09,780 --> 01:22:13,860
the back of the classroom room
is making memes today even know

1393
01:22:13,860 --> 01:22:15,210
what a meme is.

1394
01:22:16,140 --> 01:22:19,950
In a mask on the street on a hot
day and the woman with a sign

1395
01:22:19,950 --> 01:22:23,160
and an umbrella in the rain. It
belongs to the young people in

1396
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,770
college with the Sotheby's
sticker on their laptop and the

1397
01:22:25,770 --> 01:22:30,330
kid in the back of a class in
high school making memes. All of

1398
01:22:30,330 --> 01:22:34,020
these people accept that change
begins with a single voice and

1399
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:37,650
spoke one message to the world.
Governments must be accountable

1400
01:22:37,650 --> 01:22:41,040
to us for the decisions that
they make decisions regarding

1401
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,790
the kind of world we will live
in. What kinds of rights and

1402
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:48,240
freedoms individuals will enjoy
are the domain of the public,

1403
01:22:48,330 --> 01:22:51,990
not the government in the dark.
Yet the happiness of this

1404
01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:54,600
occasion is for me tempered by
an awareness of the road

1405
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,990
traveled to bring us here today.
In contemporary America, the

1406
01:22:57,990 --> 01:23:00,750
combination of weak legal
protections for whistleblowers,

1407
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,020
bad laws that provide no public
interest, defense, and a

1408
01:23:04,020 --> 01:23:06,270
doctrine of immunity for
officials who have strayed

1409
01:23:06,270 --> 01:23:08,910
beyond the boundaries of law has
perverted the system of

1410
01:23:08,910 --> 01:23:13,140
incentives that regulate secrecy
and government. This results in

1411
01:23:13,140 --> 01:23:16,920
a situation that associates an
unreasonably high price with

1412
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,590
maintaining the necessary
foundation of liberal democracy.

1413
01:23:20,220 --> 01:23:23,880
Our informed citizenry, speaking
truth to power has caused

1414
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:30,390
whistleblowers their freedom,
family, or country. This

1415
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:33,930
situation befits Neither America
nor the world, and does not

1416
01:23:33,930 --> 01:23:36,660
require sophistication to
understand the policies equating

1417
01:23:36,660 --> 01:23:39,870
necessary acts of warning with
threats to national security,

1418
01:23:40,110 --> 01:23:44,820
inevitably lead to ignorance and
insecurity. This society that

1419
01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:48,780
falls into the deterrent trap
known in cultural wisdom, as

1420
01:23:48,810 --> 01:23:52,230
shooting the messenger will
quickly find that not only is it

1421
01:23:52,230 --> 01:23:55,290
without messengers, but it no
longer enjoys messages at all.

1422
01:23:56,610 --> 01:23:59,400
It is right to question the
wisdom of such policies and the

1423
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,640
unintended incentives that
result from them. If the penalty

1424
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,060
providing secret information to
a foreign government in bad

1425
01:24:06,060 --> 01:24:08,760
faith is less than the penalty
for providing that information

1426
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,300
to the public in good faith. Are
we not incentivizing spies

1427
01:24:12,330 --> 01:24:13,770
rather than whistleblowers?

1428
01:24:14,670 --> 01:24:20,190
Okay, so he's making some sense
there. Yeah, yes.

1429
01:24:20,940 --> 01:24:23,670
What does it mean for the public
when we apply laws targeting

1430
01:24:23,670 --> 01:24:28,350
terrorism against those engaged
in acts of journalism? Can we

1431
01:24:28,350 --> 01:24:32,310
enjoy openness in our society if
we prioritize and I got it?

1432
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:39,510
Yes. What is it? Greenwald wrote
wrote this? Yes, of course. Of

1433
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:40,710
course. Of course.

1434
01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:43,110
It sounds like I'm doing the
same. Yeah.

1435
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:48,360
Oh, yeah. I totally agree. But
why?

1436
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:51,630
Well, Greenwald likes to write
so that

1437
01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:56,550
I know but doesn't does that not
then compromise his position as

1438
01:24:56,580 --> 01:24:59,970
the journalist who is reporting
on this if he is writing

1439
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,210
Now I could be a journalist one
minute as speech writer the next

1440
01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:04,350
it wouldn't bother me at all.

1441
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:14,850
Okay, well, I, to me, it feels
like that. So isn't there some

1442
01:25:14,850 --> 01:25:16,740
ethical thing about that you
can't do?

1443
01:25:17,309 --> 01:25:20,759
No, no, not your to be at here's
the ethics, the ethical problem

1444
01:25:20,759 --> 01:25:23,639
the way I would see it on on the
most liberal way of looking at

1445
01:25:23,639 --> 01:25:27,899
it would be if you wrote an
article saying what a great

1446
01:25:27,899 --> 01:25:28,679
speech.

1447
01:25:29,670 --> 01:25:33,660
Hold on a second, let me see
what Glenn Greenwald has written

1448
01:25:33,660 --> 01:25:38,400
about. Hold on a second. Let's
do this now. Glenn Greenwald,

1449
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:44,850
that'll be a whistle blower
award. I want a whistleblower

1450
01:25:44,850 --> 01:25:49,200
award by the way. Let's see. Oh,
we have his video as well. It's

1451
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,070
a long one, though. I don't want
to Snowden wins whistleblower

1452
01:25:53,070 --> 01:25:56,190
award. Well, hold on. Let's see.
Let's see if he talks. I'll find

1453
01:25:56,190 --> 01:26:01,650
it. I'll find it and I'll bet
you I'll bet you that that Glenn

1454
01:26:01,650 --> 01:26:06,180
Greenwald wrote something about
with this chilling speech, some

1455
01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:09,150
bullcrap word like that. You
watch because the guy has no

1456
01:26:09,150 --> 01:26:11,070
shame. I know you're a fan.

1457
01:26:11,490 --> 01:26:13,830
I'd be interesting. I bet she's
going to be soft. It's going to

1458
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:17,400
be soft petals is a very unique
and interesting speech. But

1459
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:22,350
isn't that isn't that? Okay?
Well, I'll find out if you wrote

1460
01:26:22,350 --> 01:26:25,140
anything about it. But isn't
that by definition? Just weird.

1461
01:26:25,140 --> 01:26:29,190
If you're reporting on the guy,
he's the story. And then you're

1462
01:26:29,190 --> 01:26:31,920
writing speeches on behalf of
him. That's weird.

1463
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:37,950
I can't prove it. No, no, you
put us so obvious. So blowers.

1464
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,610
What does it mean for the public
when we apply laws targeting

1465
01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:44,940
terrorism against those engaged
in acts of terror almost over?

1466
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:49,170
Can we enjoy openness in our
society if we prioritize

1467
01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:52,920
intimidation and revenge over
fact finding and investigation

1468
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:56,010
back? Where do we draw the line
between national security and

1469
01:26:56,010 --> 01:26:58,950
public interest? And how can we
have confidence in the balance

1470
01:26:58,950 --> 01:27:01,980
when the only advocates allowed
at the table of review come from

1471
01:27:01,980 --> 01:27:06,510
the halls of government itself?
Questions such as these can only

1472
01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:09,060
be answered through the kind of
vigorous public discussion we

1473
01:27:09,060 --> 01:27:12,330
are enjoying today. We must
never forget the lessons of

1474
01:27:12,330 --> 01:27:15,810
history regarding the dangers of
surveillance gone too far, nor

1475
01:27:15,810 --> 01:27:18,810
our human power to amend such
systems to the public benefit.

1476
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,050
The road we travel has been
difficult, but it leads us to

1477
01:27:22,050 --> 01:27:25,800
better times. Together, we can
guarantee both the safety and

1478
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,670
the rights of the generations
that follow. Okay. It's almost

1479
01:27:29,670 --> 01:27:32,010
over bait from the highest
official to the smallest

1480
01:27:32,010 --> 01:27:34,560
citizen. I say thank you, Edward
J. Snowden.

1481
01:27:35,070 --> 01:27:37,620
Edward J. Snowden. Edward J.
Snowden.

1482
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:46,020
Edward J. Snowden. Yeah, there
you go. I thought it was s.

1483
01:27:47,490 --> 01:27:49,260
Oh, really? No, that's
interesting.

1484
01:27:49,290 --> 01:27:52,290
Well, I could I mean, Spy was J,
but I just thought it was s.

1485
01:27:52,710 --> 01:27:56,700
Why did we think was s let me
see Edward. Now it's J. Edward

1486
01:27:56,700 --> 01:28:02,370
Joseph Snowden. It makes sense.
Well, we'll have another shot.

1487
01:28:02,820 --> 01:28:07,380
See, September 19. Can you make
it over to the lodge at the

1488
01:28:07,380 --> 01:28:08,370
Regency center?

1489
01:28:10,350 --> 01:28:11,730
Where's this in San

1490
01:28:11,730 --> 01:28:15,510
Francisco? Oh, no. What's
happening? Well, at six o'clock,

1491
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:22,380
the 2013 Eff pioneer awards. Oh,
the Glenn Greenwald and Laura

1492
01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:27,330
Poitras will receive an award as
pioneers. I can get into that.

1493
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:31,320
And Aaron Schwartz will receive
an award posthumously.

1494
01:28:32,940 --> 01:28:34,830
Well, it's gonna be a good cry
for everyone.

1495
01:28:34,919 --> 01:28:37,769
And James love Who's james love.

1496
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:40,890
Love is related to Reggie Love.

1497
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:43,320
He's one of the leading
champions in the international

1498
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:48,990
battle for access to knowledge.
He is the director of the

1499
01:28:49,170 --> 01:28:53,430
knowledge ecology International.
Hmm.

1500
01:28:54,780 --> 01:28:57,330
I get James Lovell, UK.

1501
01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:01,800
Hey, you know, what? Would you
call me back? It's, we're now

1502
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:06,090
what are we? About an hour and
25 minutes into it? And now I'm

1503
01:29:06,090 --> 01:29:08,670
getting a little packet loss
from you. Not too bad today.

1504
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,030
I've been getting a packet
losses, but it hasn't been well,

1505
01:29:12,030 --> 01:29:12,870
I can see they're in there.

1506
01:29:12,900 --> 01:29:17,250
Okay. All right. Goodbye. I love
you. Love you so much. All

1507
01:29:17,250 --> 01:29:20,700
right. So just so you know,
we've, we've discovered a couple

1508
01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:24,120
things that we've been working
on to fix our, our issues. None

1509
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,760
of them, by the way have to do
actually with Skype directly.

1510
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,970
We've tried to several different
protocols Teamspeak, mumble, you

1511
01:29:29,970 --> 01:29:34,350
name it other stuff has nothing
to do with the problem. This is

1512
01:29:34,350 --> 01:29:40,530
an actual technical issue. That
is taking place. And we I'm not

1513
01:29:40,530 --> 01:29:44,250
going to I can't mention what we
think it is. But I think you can

1514
01:29:44,250 --> 01:29:49,260
tell that we've had pretty good
luck so far. And if we're lucky,

1515
01:29:49,290 --> 01:29:53,040
we'll get John back and we'll
continue with the second half of

1516
01:29:53,040 --> 01:30:01,440
our program. And we're back.
Very nice. All right. All right.

1517
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:02,790
We got jittered 13.

1518
01:30:03,089 --> 01:30:08,009
We got zero so we have Yeah,
okay, so we just Okay, I think I

1519
01:30:08,009 --> 01:30:09,899
can make that event. I'll try to
me what's

1520
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,019
it's Thursday, unfortunately so
that mean, but it's It's six

1521
01:30:13,019 --> 01:30:15,359
o'clock so you'll have time to
get in. Oh yeah, no, I got

1522
01:30:15,359 --> 01:30:18,629
plenty of time. September 19.
That might be fun. Oh, oh boy.

1523
01:30:19,559 --> 01:30:23,609
Yeah. $65 remember separate
Yeah. 75 for general admission

1524
01:30:23,759 --> 01:30:25,799
now. I'm sorry. That's desk.

1525
01:30:26,099 --> 01:30:29,429
Oh, no, I will ask Barlow for a
comp.

1526
01:30:29,639 --> 01:30:34,079
Oh, don't mention my name. We
don't get along that well.

1527
01:30:34,530 --> 01:30:37,830
I'm going to show my son move by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

1528
01:30:37,830 --> 01:30:40,500
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fine

1529
01:30:48,990 --> 01:30:53,100
I would do a few people to thank
let's start with hater is Izmail

1530
01:30:53,340 --> 01:30:58,980
in Singapore, which is nice.
$180 Patrick Turner $111.11 in

1531
01:30:59,010 --> 01:31:04,320
Austin, Texas wrap the street
for me. Charles Thompson $100 in

1532
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:05,100
Buda, Texas.

1533
01:31:05,940 --> 01:31:07,920
This is my buddy Hold on. We
read what he said. Hey, John

1534
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,860
Adams a little something to get
started to say big thanks to

1535
01:31:10,860 --> 01:31:13,410
Mickey for that lunchtime
hospitality. She served us when

1536
01:31:13,410 --> 01:31:17,400
I visited. Get mo Travis talking
radio stuff with you, Adam. I

1537
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,400
could use some safe flight karma
for my Friday the 13th biennial

1538
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,860
flight review coming up this
Friday. This is Charlie

1539
01:31:22,890 --> 01:31:25,230
Charlie's a good guy. He's a
pilot ham.

1540
01:31:25,530 --> 01:31:29,910
Oh yes. A ham Western five.
Control Data time.

1541
01:31:30,420 --> 01:31:34,080
Charlie Delta tango. I'm gonna
give them a Congress got karma.

1542
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,040
Because you know, it's like, you
got friends who have airplanes.

1543
01:31:38,580 --> 01:31:39,600
Deserve karma?

1544
01:31:39,930 --> 01:31:45,480
Yeah, you can get out of town or
not. Christopher Altman in

1545
01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:50,160
Atlanta, Georgia. $100 Max tank
in La Jolla, California. 9696.

1546
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:55,860
Joshua Brickner $75 out of
Longmont, Colorado, Colorado. He

1547
01:31:55,860 --> 01:31:59,970
says, here's some show money for
you guys. You deserve. We'll

1548
01:31:59,970 --> 01:32:05,130
send more. How much for three
Shows a week? 1000? Yeah. Brian

1549
01:32:05,130 --> 01:32:09,480
Williams. 7373 Streamwood,
Illinois. Edgar Barrera, Mexico

1550
01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:12,720
City, Mexico City. 6666. And
these aren't we

1551
01:32:12,750 --> 01:32:19,410
all Pro? We're there already.
Oh, man. I'm not ready for this.

1552
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:21,300
Here we go. No,

1553
01:32:22,050 --> 01:32:23,130
there are none.

1554
01:32:23,310 --> 01:32:28,350
No. This streak has been broken.
That's it. It's done. Wait

1555
01:32:28,350 --> 01:32:29,490
a minute. Hold on. Wait a
minute.

1556
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:30,900
Are you sure about this?

1557
01:32:30,990 --> 01:32:35,460
I am not. I'm not buying this
because I remember a 6969 coming

1558
01:32:35,460 --> 01:32:38,250
in. We were in abeyance.

1559
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:42,720
Wait a minute. Why is it double
check? This is This is bad.

1560
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,340
Well, I'm going to double check
because I think I swear to god

1561
01:32:47,340 --> 01:32:49,200
that whenever I was looking
because I occasion when it's in

1562
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,150
my email, I get these
notifications when somebody

1563
01:32:51,150 --> 01:32:55,920
donates. And I'm absolutely sure
a 6969 came in why it's not on

1564
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,450
here is the question of the day.
But apparently I'm

1565
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:03,690
I'm skeptical. John, I've been
waiting for this to happen.

1566
01:33:03,930 --> 01:33:07,170
We've been here before. And I
will point out the last time we

1567
01:33:07,170 --> 01:33:10,530
did this, you also pulled one of
these when it came in when

1568
01:33:10,530 --> 01:33:14,880
meaningful need be. I think just
over I think we just done is

1569
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:15,210
totally

1570
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,180
fine. Don't find the evidence.
And we are done. I but I'm

1571
01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:19,890
stunned by this stuff.

1572
01:33:20,250 --> 01:33:23,310
And I'm just thinking what so
we're not even we don't even

1573
01:33:23,310 --> 01:33:27,240
have a 69 entry. We're down to
the sixes to the 60 sixes. Yeah,

1574
01:33:27,420 --> 01:33:33,300
a sack of sixes. Right. Okay,
well, it's very sad that the

1575
01:33:33,300 --> 01:33:34,980
swazy Enough, ladies and
gentlemen,

1576
01:33:35,580 --> 01:33:37,530
this was a disaster of September
11.

1577
01:33:38,130 --> 01:33:41,100
This was it. That's the that's
the FBI six week schedule right

1578
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:41,430
there.

1579
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:50,310
He anyway, that's Edgar Barrera
out of Mexico city of 6666. And

1580
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:51,930
these are all 6660s. And

1581
01:33:51,930 --> 01:33:55,830
I think we're calling these the
sack of 60s. The Sax accent six

1582
01:33:55,830 --> 01:34:01,860
is from a he 10 got that career
consultancy in Rotorua. New

1583
01:34:01,860 --> 01:34:08,070
Zealand, sheep farming. William
smack in San Diego, California,

1584
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:11,520
Stephen sev. Chuck in West
Orange, New Jersey, my old

1585
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:11,970
sanctuary.

1586
01:34:13,740 --> 01:34:16,050
So sorry, my old stomping
grounds West Orange. I was

1587
01:34:16,050 --> 01:34:17,430
riding in western Montclair, my

1588
01:34:18,150 --> 01:34:22,560
son will who will de Mar
California. Christopher O'Brien

1589
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,370
in Milton, Massachusetts, Simon
Smith and Middleborough

1590
01:34:26,370 --> 01:34:32,070
Cleveland. Edward Jones in
Providence, North Carolina,

1591
01:34:32,099 --> 01:34:34,709
I think is what I put out there.
Well, but Providence Rhode

1592
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:35,999
Island? No, this

1593
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,990
was a check that came in. Oh,
and I put North Carolina clearly

1594
01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:42,840
on the on the list that they
sent.

1595
01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:46,200
And so here's how it goes. And
then Eric gets a listen goes.

1596
01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:49,680
Providence isn't in North
Carolina. You stupid John. It's

1597
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:50,610
in Rhode Island.

1598
01:34:51,570 --> 01:34:52,920
So I put a question mark there.

1599
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:56,880
I'll put a question mark just to
hedge my bets.

1600
01:34:57,389 --> 01:35:02,429
Joshua, plain old Joshua in
Alexandria, Virginia, and I have

1601
01:35:02,429 --> 01:35:07,289
a note Okeydoke. Nice. And since
you wrote it in I'll see what I

1602
01:35:07,289 --> 01:35:12,179
got. Let's see. Is this it?
Yeah, he sent us a card. He says

1603
01:35:12,179 --> 01:35:14,819
Happy Birthday and Happy
anniversary. John and Adam. You

1604
01:35:14,819 --> 01:35:17,879
guys rock. And is it good to
have big card?

1605
01:35:18,270 --> 01:35:21,330
Oh, what's on the card? It's,
it's,

1606
01:35:21,870 --> 01:35:26,250
you know, it says, success is
doing what you can do well and

1607
01:35:26,250 --> 01:35:30,780
doing well. Whatever you do.
Longfellow. Oh, okay. And then

1608
01:35:30,780 --> 01:35:33,960
inside it says congratulations
on your wonderful achievement

1609
01:35:34,050 --> 01:35:35,940
and best wishes for the future.

1610
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,060
These sack of sixes donations,
by the way, are for our sixth

1611
01:35:39,060 --> 01:35:40,920
anniversary coming up in
October.

1612
01:35:41,940 --> 01:35:48,690
Exactly. Ryan Ferguson in La
Jolla, California. Oh, we're off

1613
01:35:48,690 --> 01:35:50,160
to 6666 and

1614
01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:53,550
going fast today, John, this is
this is Ryan. If

1615
01:35:53,550 --> 01:35:58,590
you're interested in La Jolla,
California, says high fives to

1616
01:35:58,590 --> 01:36:02,670
his both. George Lindhome 55
Double nickels on a dime is

1617
01:36:02,670 --> 01:36:07,140
returned Marysville Washington
nice to see back Daniel Ruden in

1618
01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:11,640
Cedar Rapids Iowa double nickels
on the diamond finally Mr. E in

1619
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:15,300
South Dakota, who sent in the
double nickels on the dime. And

1620
01:36:15,300 --> 01:36:19,740
he sent a note very interesting
kind of snarky note, which I

1621
01:36:19,740 --> 01:36:22,980
have to play. Okay. First time
donor trying to get on the right

1622
01:36:22,980 --> 01:36:25,620
path. Please don't tell me not
to send cash only use credit

1623
01:36:25,620 --> 01:36:27,990
cards and absolutely necessary
don't carry a checkbook. So this

1624
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:30,360
is it or nothing. I love the
clips about the weather. I

1625
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,570
should revise that hey, this is
him actually. I love the clips

1626
01:36:33,780 --> 01:36:35,970
about the weather data being
changed. I have worked on

1627
01:36:35,970 --> 01:36:38,190
setting up weather stations that
power plants or wind farms,

1628
01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:41,220
paper mills and other facilities
for the last 20 years. When they

1629
01:36:41,220 --> 01:36:44,250
come up with analysis of 1.8
degree over 100 years is just

1630
01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:47,340
BS. You can find data set to
give you any number you want.

1631
01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:50,310
You guys are truly greatest
podcast in the universe. Just

1632
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:53,250
another Yoco blowing up
mailboxes in North Dakota

1633
01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:53,910
mystery.

1634
01:36:54,270 --> 01:36:55,320
send pictures.

1635
01:36:56,700 --> 01:36:59,820
Yeah, the mailbox they use. They
do blow up these mailboxes, by

1636
01:36:59,820 --> 01:37:05,370
the way. Very common. Greg
tippet in Melbourne, Victoria 55

1637
01:37:05,550 --> 01:37:08,280
Matthew Stevens these are all
$50 donations North Richland

1638
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:12,180
Hills, Texas, Paul Vela, in
Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire,

1639
01:37:12,540 --> 01:37:18,840
in the UK and Jason Fortnum in
Geneva, Illinois. sukoshi

1640
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:24,660
Alexander in Moscow. Hey, that's
nice. Moscow, Moscow, Russia.

1641
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:27,360
We have we have we have a number
of of Russian

1642
01:37:28,350 --> 01:37:32,040
time mascot soldiers in
Minneapolis Prime Minister.

1643
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,430
That's will be our last donation
for this segment. And we want to

1644
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:38,970
thank them and everyone else has
donated lesser amounts to show

1645
01:37:38,970 --> 01:37:43,410
547 I will check on the 60 at
the end of the 6969 thing which

1646
01:37:43,410 --> 01:37:47,310
means if it's to begin again, it
has to be started once more by

1647
01:37:47,310 --> 01:37:48,810
Carrie Sherman.

1648
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,610
Oh, and otherwise it doesn't
count

1649
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:54,570
is the way I see it. She has
sent another picture of her but

1650
01:37:55,530 --> 01:37:58,980
and she has to be on a on some
race or something she runs

1651
01:38:00,390 --> 01:38:03,720
and otherwise we will not accept
your 60 969 donation.

1652
01:38:04,110 --> 01:38:07,920
Somebody official has to sit
started I think this went on

1653
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:11,070
over a year. Yeah. Not to get
the start date.

1654
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,900
Well, it'd be very sad if that
happened. And otherwise we'll

1655
01:38:15,900 --> 01:38:18,690
just we're just going to round
it up. Maybe no more swag

1656
01:38:18,690 --> 01:38:22,320
enough. We'll just thank you
very much for your 6970 donation

1657
01:38:22,350 --> 01:38:24,990
will be rounded up and that'll
be a big no more swells enough.

1658
01:38:24,990 --> 01:38:25,590
karmas

1659
01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:30,090
Yeah, it's a shame give a
general karma or shout out for

1660
01:38:30,090 --> 01:38:30,570
everybody.

1661
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,390
Yes, everyone. Thank you so much
for your support of the program.

1662
01:38:33,420 --> 01:38:39,390
You've got karma. No birthdays
to mention today. No

1663
01:38:39,390 --> 01:38:43,140
knighthoods, as you can tell by
the rather short list however

1664
01:38:43,140 --> 01:38:47,430
Sir David Foley, of course now
becomes the Duke of Silicon

1665
01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:51,690
Valley. And pretty soon he'll be
right up there in Grand dukedom

1666
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,780
at the rate he's going and he'll
have that entire protectorate

1667
01:38:54,810 --> 01:39:00,420
and I guess he and a Grand Duke
Pels, mockers, they, they can

1668
01:39:00,420 --> 01:39:02,760
have little get togethers and
you wouldn't know that when

1669
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,550
their kids get married. They go
near the attend the weddings,

1670
01:39:05,550 --> 01:39:09,210
and they wear funny hats. Don't
you think?

1671
01:39:09,900 --> 01:39:14,310
They have to have a lot of
servants? Well, yes, yes. Yes.

1672
01:39:14,430 --> 01:39:18,870
Very good. More loiter port.
Yeah. So Yeah. Let me handle a

1673
01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:21,600
little bell. They ring. Yes.
Send me

1674
01:39:21,630 --> 01:39:24,690
some more pod please. So a
reminder, it's always hard for

1675
01:39:24,690 --> 01:39:29,100
us to get anything going on the
Sunday show and today was short.

1676
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:35,910
So please support us at
vorak.org/in A also playing a

1677
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:41,040
little bit here with the
ultimate podcast device. As you

1678
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:47,610
may be able to tell now, well,
you can't tell I can tell. Like

1679
01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:49,350
something's not tripping, right.

1680
01:39:49,590 --> 01:39:50,310
How's it doing?

1681
01:39:50,730 --> 01:39:55,590
It's doing well. Yeah, this is I
didn't sounds like it's

1682
01:39:55,590 --> 01:40:01,560
doing poorly. What is that? It's
your podcast device. What's

1683
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,000
wrong with this stuff? Turn it
off.

1684
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:07,080
What a piece of crap. It's going
through the phone lines.

1685
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:08,250
Everybody is no good.

1686
01:40:10,830 --> 01:40:14,790
All righty. Pam, you just sent
this a little longer. Okay, I'm

1687
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:18,330
just messing around with Oh. So
we got a few clips to play. I

1688
01:40:18,330 --> 01:40:21,240
got one thing for you this
really this this happened this

1689
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:25,440
morning. Miss Mickey made me
pancakes on Thursday, which is

1690
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:29,460
nice. It doesn't happen. It
usually only happens on the on

1691
01:40:29,460 --> 01:40:35,220
the Sunday shows. And so she
should I turn on NPR. I'm like,

1692
01:40:35,220 --> 01:40:37,860
yeah, we'll see what's going on.
We'll listen to it. Because, you

1693
01:40:37,860 --> 01:40:42,660
know, nevermind, I just turn on
NPR. And I hear this report. And

1694
01:40:42,660 --> 01:40:45,090
I know a lot about this
particular instance, and what

1695
01:40:45,090 --> 01:40:49,950
has gone on here. And I'll give
you the background. There is a

1696
01:40:49,950 --> 01:40:54,810
law that was put on the books
quite a while ago, that any song

1697
01:40:54,810 --> 01:41:00,330
before 1978, I believe. And now
we're like 35 years. If an

1698
01:41:00,330 --> 01:41:03,390
artist had written the song, or
whoever wrote the song, if you

1699
01:41:03,390 --> 01:41:06,870
had sold the rights to that song
with the publishing, you could

1700
01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:10,710
get it back after 35 years. So
it was not an indefinite sale.

1701
01:41:11,070 --> 01:41:13,440
And you have some inherent
rights. And this is part of the

1702
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:16,740
copyright law of the land, which
of course you don't hear a lot

1703
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:19,920
about because oh my god, let's
not give any of these artists

1704
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,950
any any crazy ideas to go
getting their material back

1705
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:26,760
which they have the right to
legally by legal copyright law

1706
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,600
in America. So this happens and
you may have heard the story and

1707
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:34,740
one of the village people gets
the rights to his song back.

1708
01:41:34,770 --> 01:41:41,730
This is how NPR reports on this
very important. legal issue,

1709
01:41:41,730 --> 01:41:45,540
which is a big deal, not just to
this guy but to all artists and

1710
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:48,690
to copyright in general. And
here's how your national

1711
01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:52,170
treasure handles the story on
their business program. Village

1712
01:41:52,170 --> 01:41:55,740
People singer Victor Willis has
finally won a share of the

1713
01:41:55,740 --> 01:42:02,340
income from his most famous song
download

1714
01:42:05,010 --> 01:42:07,860
the New York Times reports the
Willis you know him as the

1715
01:42:07,860 --> 01:42:11,370
police officer has emerged from
six years of legal wrestling

1716
01:42:11,370 --> 01:42:15,210
with a new copyright in hand.
The Victor gives him substantial

1717
01:42:15,210 --> 01:42:19,350
control over why MCA and 32
other village people tune he

1718
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:22,740
said he's considering a move
that would ban village people

1719
01:42:22,740 --> 01:42:26,160
songs from being performed by
his former bandmates. Yes, the

1720
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:30,360
cowboy, the construction worker,
the Indian and all the rest are

1721
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,180
still around and touring but
without Mr. Willis. So today's

1722
01:42:33,180 --> 01:42:36,060
last word in business is singing
with me. Here it comes here

1723
01:42:36,060 --> 01:42:42,270
comes by. Hey, and that's the
business news on Morning Edition

1724
01:42:42,270 --> 01:42:45,480
from NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep
and I'm Rene Montana.

1725
01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:51,180
Okay, these people are such a
holes. This is a really

1726
01:42:51,180 --> 01:42:55,620
important story. And this guy
can be now making three four,

1727
01:42:55,620 --> 01:43:00,450
maybe $500,000 a year in
commercial publishing isn't it's

1728
01:43:00,450 --> 01:43:04,350
actually it is a business story.
And all they can do is say, Oh,

1729
01:43:04,350 --> 01:43:07,080
he's gonna forbid the other
vintage people from performing

1730
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:13,170
the song. Oh, let's sing along.
Fuck you NPR. I was really

1731
01:43:13,170 --> 01:43:16,560
pissed about this. This is dumb.
This is done. That's not

1732
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:22,260
reporting. Shock, shocker.
Shocker. But you know, it's

1733
01:43:22,260 --> 01:43:25,710
always this is the big secret of
journalism. Whenever they report

1734
01:43:25,710 --> 01:43:30,750
on something you actually know
about. It's always wrong. shakur

1735
01:43:31,770 --> 01:43:33,660
shot well I'll throw you the
shocker.

1736
01:43:35,970 --> 01:43:37,590
Well, I was listening to Fox

1737
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,600
I'm so sorry. So sorry to hear
that. Yes.

1738
01:43:42,780 --> 01:43:45,600
And there was an Anthony Weiner
was on Oh,

1739
01:43:45,900 --> 01:43:48,660
wait a minute. Are you grabbing
my clips of the day here? Are

1740
01:43:48,660 --> 01:43:54,870
you trying to usurp me Dvorak?
What do you got? Play it? Well,

1741
01:43:54,870 --> 01:43:56,670
I'm I'm looking for your clip.

1742
01:43:57,060 --> 01:43:58,470
No, no, it's your clip.

1743
01:43:59,850 --> 01:44:02,730
While you're actually you're
actually going to get my clip?

1744
01:44:03,060 --> 01:44:06,780
Yeah, yeah, I didn't figure I
had to make the clip because you

1745
01:44:06,780 --> 01:44:07,080
had it.

1746
01:44:07,110 --> 01:44:09,510
Alright. It wasn't Fox. It was
MSNBC.

1747
01:44:09,810 --> 01:44:12,570
Oh, I'm stablish those facts.
What news? Are you breaking

1748
01:44:12,570 --> 01:44:12,930
here?

1749
01:44:13,950 --> 01:44:17,250
What I'm trying to get at
Anthony is what drives you.

1750
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:22,620
Okay. You asked me that
question. And you're pursuing me

1751
01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:26,760
that question Anthony. I mean it
from a psychiatric level. I

1752
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:33,600
don't care what your psychiatric
questions you hear doing being

1753
01:44:33,630 --> 01:44:35,010
you are being driven

1754
01:44:35,010 --> 01:44:41,250
by some kind of demons. And when
asked me a question, or do you

1755
01:44:41,250 --> 01:44:44,280
have me on a harangue with a
split screen is can't be good TV

1756
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,220
for anybody. All right, you
know, whatever. We got about 20

1757
01:44:47,220 --> 01:44:47,490
seconds.

1758
01:44:53,310 --> 01:44:55,830
I'd like you to stay if you
will. It will continue this

1759
01:44:55,830 --> 01:45:00,270
online and you can rank online
nobody watches the show. What do

1760
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:01,620
you think? So you want to say
whatever you

1761
01:45:01,620 --> 01:45:03,930
want. Alright, so I'm just going
to stop it here because the

1762
01:45:03,930 --> 01:45:07,350
maniacal laugh was kind of the
best part. But I want to say

1763
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:13,290
something very important. When
Amy Winehouse died, everybody

1764
01:45:13,290 --> 01:45:17,310
was oh man was sad and there
was, you know, outpouring of

1765
01:45:17,310 --> 01:45:21,780
sorrow. But all I saw and I'm
generalizing all I saw certainly

1766
01:45:21,780 --> 01:45:26,130
from the media was laughter and
pointing and look at the train

1767
01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:30,150
wreck and it's hilarious and oh
my god, look at that nut job.

1768
01:45:30,150 --> 01:45:34,620
Winehouse, the druggie the
drunk, and we're doing it again,

1769
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:39,120
and I find it weirdly perverted
that I'm defending Anthony

1770
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:45,420
Wiener, but someone needs to
help the man. His wife has

1771
01:45:45,420 --> 01:45:49,920
deserted him right she would
when this interview was done

1772
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:55,230
just before the democratic
mayoral candidate was chosen,

1773
01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:59,790
his wife was with the Clintons
at their private fundraiser.

1774
01:45:59,850 --> 01:46:04,290
She's the guy is deserted. It's
sad. Jon Stewart. Here's what I

1775
01:46:04,290 --> 01:46:08,550
do. John Stewart should make it
a personal mission of his to go

1776
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:12,570
and save his former roommate.
The man needs saving this will

1777
01:46:12,570 --> 01:46:16,380
end very, very poorly and
everyone will be Hodor that

1778
01:46:16,380 --> 01:46:21,900
happen. The pressure that is on
this man right now. Forget what

1779
01:46:21,900 --> 01:46:22,350
he did.

1780
01:46:22,350 --> 01:46:26,250
maniacal laugh is kind of the
giveaway. It's a it's it's but

1781
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:28,800
let's play a little part again,
because it's actually that this

1782
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,190
is not a normal laugh that this
is a maniacal laugh. This is

1783
01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:33,300
like something to me,

1784
01:46:33,330 --> 01:46:39,060
you are being driven by some
kind of demons. And you want to

1785
01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:42,360
ask me a question, or you have
me on a harangue with a split

1786
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,790
screen is can't be good TV for
anybody.

1787
01:46:44,910 --> 01:46:46,740
It is great to

1788
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,470
know here's Yeah, yeah, that's,
that's the laugh of a man at the

1789
01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:53,280
end of his rope.

1790
01:46:53,790 --> 01:46:57,000
is totally, that's a bad laugh.
Yeah, that is.

1791
01:46:57,180 --> 01:47:00,930
So I just want to say, you know
that everyone's laughing at the

1792
01:47:00,930 --> 01:47:04,470
guy. And it's a it's all a big
joke. But it's going to end

1793
01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:08,010
very, very poorly for him. And
it will be on everyone who I

1794
01:47:08,010 --> 01:47:11,190
mean, I can't help him. But
there are certainly people who

1795
01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:15,090
can. And they should read and
they should and it's time.

1796
01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:18,720
Sometimes you need to take
someone and take them out. You

1797
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:22,290
know, it's happens in show
business all the time when when

1798
01:47:22,290 --> 01:47:25,590
someone is you know, too
naughty, then you know, they

1799
01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:29,760
have managers and and lawyers
and record companies and they

1800
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,370
take them away, put them into
funny farm for a while. I'm

1801
01:47:32,370 --> 01:47:36,720
sorry. It's called a spa. You go
for relaxation. The guy

1802
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,390
desperately needs this. That's
all that's all I'm gonna say

1803
01:47:39,390 --> 01:47:42,840
about it. But we can't just as a
society, I can't stand by and

1804
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,480
say oh, it's a funny train wreck
without pointing out the

1805
01:47:45,480 --> 01:47:50,670
obvious. And yeah, and it is
good TV, though. I'll be I have

1806
01:47:50,670 --> 01:47:54,270
to it is good. TV is wrong on
that. Yeah. This can't be good,

1807
01:47:54,270 --> 01:47:57,660
too. Yes, it is. But he never
did this, right. He's right.

1808
01:47:57,690 --> 01:48:02,040
Laura's or Donald did nothing,
too. He's just kept yakking?

1809
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:06,540
Yeah. You need help my friend.
You need help.

1810
01:48:06,570 --> 01:48:10,290
Yeah, big time. Help. Me. Yeah.
Well, he does need help.

1811
01:48:10,740 --> 01:48:13,320
So there was a September 11
celebration, which we mentioned

1812
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,410
the newsletter, which was the
September 11. was the day of the

1813
01:48:16,410 --> 01:48:17,700
coup in Chile.

1814
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:24,240
Yes. That was 40th anniversary.
Yes. 7973. Do you know that John

1815
01:48:24,270 --> 01:48:31,110
F. Kerry visited Kissinger on
September 11. Well, was

1816
01:48:31,110 --> 01:48:31,650
Kissinger I

1817
01:48:31,650 --> 01:48:32,550
didn't know that. But

1818
01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:35,010
was Kissinger not intimately
involved in

1819
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:39,510
Oh, yeah. Kissinger and Nixon in
the CIA right through right.

1820
01:48:39,630 --> 01:48:42,600
Blend age and put in this creepy
guy Pinochet?

1821
01:48:42,660 --> 01:48:44,640
Yeah, so what did they do? They
went and had a drink.

1822
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:49,380
I don't know. They're just the
probably high fives or whatever

1823
01:48:49,380 --> 01:48:53,820
they back then. So there was a
lot of stuff on the on the

1824
01:48:53,820 --> 01:48:58,050
Democracy Now show was quite
interesting. A lot of details on

1825
01:48:58,050 --> 01:49:01,110
how, you know, we had an
American reporter that was was

1826
01:49:01,140 --> 01:49:05,520
was murdered and it became the
movie missing with Jack Lemmon.

1827
01:49:05,730 --> 01:49:10,320
Oh, yeah, that movie, the
missing 1988 movie from Jack

1828
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,860
Lemmon was about the situation
and it was creepy. And we did

1829
01:49:13,860 --> 01:49:16,680
nothing to help anybody. And if
you want to see a real digital,

1830
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,070
the creepiest part of American
government was in the 70s. But

1831
01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:22,920
you should watch that movie and
you'll get a sense of it. But

1832
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,260
here's a kind of I wish I had a
lot of clips. I could have

1833
01:49:25,260 --> 01:49:28,290
pulled from this but I decided
to you know that, you know this,

1834
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:30,930
just a bunch of people with deep
Spanish accent you couldn't

1835
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:34,020
understand. But they told how he
was, you know, kidnapped and

1836
01:49:34,020 --> 01:49:37,830
murdered and tortured again,
there was also a musician famous

1837
01:49:37,830 --> 01:49:41,070
musician was involved. He's
murdered he was like a famous

1838
01:49:41,070 --> 01:49:43,260
guy so they broke his hand so he
couldn't play anymore. Then they

1839
01:49:43,260 --> 01:49:45,870
killed first they broke his
hands and they shot him

1840
01:49:45,930 --> 01:49:49,140
I don't know and I need to brush
up on my

1841
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,730
granddad went on and it was all
kind of you know, we because

1842
01:49:53,790 --> 01:49:57,450
because Nixon was it was all in
I think it was too embarrassed

1843
01:49:57,450 --> 01:50:00,360
Nixon too. But here's an
interesting prelude to a coup,

1844
01:50:00,510 --> 01:50:04,230
which was the way this what his
how things were changing on the

1845
01:50:04,230 --> 01:50:07,800
spot and how they could tell
there's a military coup in play.

1846
01:50:08,190 --> 01:50:12,060
Describe what happened on
September 11 1973. Where were

1847
01:50:12,060 --> 01:50:15,270
you? Where was Victor? Yeah,
well, we were both at home with

1848
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:23,100
our two daughters. They were
somehow a coup in the air. We

1849
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:26,640
had been fearing that there will
might be a medic military coup.

1850
01:50:29,190 --> 01:50:35,010
On that morning. Together,
Victor and I listened to a

1851
01:50:35,010 --> 01:50:40,980
youngers last speech. And hurdle
the radios the who supported

1852
01:50:40,980 --> 01:50:45,600
savonnerie and falling off the
air see one by one and being

1853
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:49,590
replaced by military marches.
Victor was due to go to the

1854
01:50:49,590 --> 01:50:53,670
Technical University his place
of work where I ended was due to

1855
01:50:53,670 --> 01:50:56,820
speak to announce the purpose it
at 11 o'clock.

1856
01:50:57,540 --> 01:51:01,590
Do you imagine where that's just
happening? We're just this radio

1857
01:51:01,590 --> 01:51:04,740
stations just dropping off the
air and I guess they're playing

1858
01:51:04,740 --> 01:51:08,010
military craft or something.
Wow.

1859
01:51:08,430 --> 01:51:12,870
So So anyway, this woman was
Victor Jaras wife that was she

1860
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:15,720
was on Democracy Now that gave
her lots of time, who was the

1861
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,680
kid jar and just to help jars is
very famous folk singer that was

1862
01:51:20,250 --> 01:51:24,930
a guest, a supporter of a yen
Dana's socialist, and so they

1863
01:51:24,930 --> 01:51:28,860
decided to kill him and make an
example out of it. Okay. So they

1864
01:51:28,980 --> 01:51:31,020
identified here's the
interesting, the interesting

1865
01:51:31,020 --> 01:51:33,240
part of the story, which isn't
very well explored, because

1866
01:51:33,450 --> 01:51:36,450
democracy now is still Obama
bots. And so they won't really

1867
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:41,130
say the obvious. This woman is
in the country because she's

1868
01:51:41,130 --> 01:51:45,300
part of a civil suit against the
guy living in Florida, who

1869
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:48,150
apparently was the guy who
masterminded a lot of the

1870
01:51:48,150 --> 01:51:51,780
assassinations, and was brought
over the United States a few

1871
01:51:51,780 --> 01:51:55,440
years after they ousted
Pinochet, and they set up shop

1872
01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:58,530
in Orlando or someplace. He's
been living here for 20 years.

1873
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:03,060
Wow. And so they wanted and then
the Chilean government has put

1874
01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:06,360
out an extradition order to
bring the guy to justice in

1875
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,610
Chile and we are ignoring it.

1876
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:14,490
You mean pot kettle calling
yellow wave, we have a jingle

1877
01:52:14,490 --> 01:52:21,420
for that. Hello, kettle, this is
the pot calling. Okay. No

1878
01:52:21,420 --> 01:52:22,410
Snowden for you.

1879
01:52:22,769 --> 01:52:27,269
So they are going away to do
anything that needed. So they're

1880
01:52:27,269 --> 01:52:29,579
trying they're running the civil
suit, because the civil suit

1881
01:52:29,579 --> 01:52:33,929
will give more evidence that
this is the guy to the US

1882
01:52:33,929 --> 01:52:37,019
government. So they will, they
will extradite the guy but the

1883
01:52:37,019 --> 01:52:39,629
US government's not budging on
this. And apparently he brought

1884
01:52:39,629 --> 01:52:43,169
over a bunch of these guys,
after the Pinochet murderous

1885
01:52:43,169 --> 01:52:47,819
butcheries administration was
ousted. And it was all cool.

1886
01:52:47,819 --> 01:52:50,489
Come on, guys, get over here.
We'll we'll save you because

1887
01:52:50,489 --> 01:52:54,209
they were all been, you know,
hung. But that's that's our

1888
01:52:54,209 --> 01:52:56,579
government at work instead of
you know, we're going after

1889
01:52:56,579 --> 01:52:58,619
Snowden. But we want to
extradite the real criminals

1890
01:52:58,619 --> 01:52:59,849
that are in our country.

1891
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:04,110
And I find it interesting that
it happens on on September 11.

1892
01:53:04,110 --> 01:53:06,810
What an interesting date in
history. If you really look at

1893
01:53:06,810 --> 01:53:10,470
it. It's crazy. A lot of stuff
has happened really has.

1894
01:53:11,700 --> 01:53:13,860
So there's a couple other things
going on, especially in the

1895
01:53:13,890 --> 01:53:16,800
Latin community. But just an
interesting thing going on in

1896
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:20,370
Mexico. We got a lot of economic
hitman action going on there

1897
01:53:20,370 --> 01:53:22,200
that we're not paying much
attention to

1898
01:53:22,230 --> 01:53:25,770
1000s of people rallied in
Mexico City on Sunday against

1899
01:53:25,770 --> 01:53:28,920
the Mexican government's plans
to overhaul the country's energy

1900
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,610
sector. The Mexican President
Enrique Pena Nieto is pushing an

1901
01:53:32,610 --> 01:53:35,220
effort to open the state
controlled oil company to

1902
01:53:35,220 --> 01:53:38,670
investment from foreign
multinationals. Addressing the

1903
01:53:38,670 --> 01:53:41,820
crowd former Mexico City Mayor
and presidential candidate

1904
01:53:41,820 --> 01:53:46,200
Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador
accused Pena Nieto of backing

1905
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:47,190
privatization.

1906
01:53:47,730 --> 01:53:50,700
Well, that's the new guy who's
in and stuff changes when you

1907
01:53:50,700 --> 01:53:51,630
get the new guy in.

1908
01:53:51,870 --> 01:53:55,110
You got the right guy in and now
we're getting some action so our

1909
01:53:55,110 --> 01:53:58,200
big boys can get get all the
money. And then finally, the

1910
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,770
last thing, which is the NSA
related story, there's two piece

1911
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,220
pieces to this clip. And this is
I didn't know this either. But

1912
01:54:05,220 --> 01:54:09,120
again, it involves oil this time
Brazil, and this is spying on

1913
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:09,780
Brazil.

1914
01:54:10,350 --> 01:54:14,250
The NSA apparently tapped into
Petrobras is Internal

1915
01:54:14,250 --> 01:54:18,420
Communications Network. The news
of more NSA spying in Brazil

1916
01:54:18,420 --> 01:54:21,870
comes one week after it emerged.
The US has spied on the phone

1917
01:54:21,870 --> 01:54:25,170
calls and emails of Brazilian
President Dilma Rousseff and

1918
01:54:25,170 --> 01:54:28,800
Mexican President Enrique Pena,
and yet to the revelations have

1919
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,250
sparked a diplomatic uproar and
threatened to plan trip by

1920
01:54:32,250 --> 01:54:36,810
herself to the US next month. At
the G 20. Summit in Russia, who

1921
01:54:36,810 --> 01:54:40,260
Seph said she raised her
concerns directly with President

1922
01:54:40,260 --> 01:54:44,190
Obama and added her visit to the
US will depend on how Obama

1923
01:54:44,220 --> 01:54:48,600
responds. Brazil has rejected
the US government's attempt to

1924
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:51,630
explain the spying so far
Brazilian Communications

1925
01:54:51,630 --> 01:54:55,290
Minister Paulo Bernardo said
quote, All of the explanations

1926
01:54:55,290 --> 01:54:58,020
that have been given to us from
the beginning have proven to be

1927
01:54:58,020 --> 01:54:58,620
false.

1928
01:54:58,980 --> 01:55:02,310
And apparently the zillion
government sent a delegation to

1929
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:07,380
Moscow to interview Edward J.
Snowden about this espionage

1930
01:55:07,530 --> 01:55:09,810
went Oh, I didn't know that they
should just go they did not have

1931
01:55:09,810 --> 01:55:11,820
to leave the country they can
just go to Glenn Greenwald

1932
01:55:12,780 --> 01:55:15,840
writes all the lives there and
he writes the answer, so why

1933
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:16,290
not?

1934
01:55:17,070 --> 01:55:19,230
Yeah, well anyway, there's a
part two of this, which I

1935
01:55:19,230 --> 01:55:21,690
thought was funny, just kind of
humorous because this is the

1936
01:55:21,690 --> 01:55:23,160
last thing you could ever
expect.

1937
01:55:23,580 --> 01:55:26,400
In an interview with the Hindu
newspaper, former Brazilian

1938
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:30,210
President Luiz Inacio, Lula DE
SILVA criticized the NSA spy

1939
01:55:30,210 --> 01:55:33,660
program and said President Obama
should quote personally

1940
01:55:33,690 --> 01:55:38,340
apologize to the world. Agree.
Yeah,

1941
01:55:38,370 --> 01:55:42,870
I know it's easy for him to do.
Yeah, I was. I found some

1942
01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:46,710
interesting articles first of
all, Kaiser Alexander. He showed

1943
01:55:46,710 --> 01:55:51,060
up at Burning Man. What Yeah, he
was up at Burning Man. There's

1944
01:55:51,090 --> 01:55:55,170
there's reports of him at
Burning Man. I think the guy's I

1945
01:55:55,170 --> 01:55:56,130
think he's on E.

1946
01:55:57,390 --> 01:55:58,890
Well, he would be at Burning
Man.

1947
01:55:59,700 --> 01:56:03,120
And so I'm reading all these
people keep sending me

1948
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:08,490
interesting articles.
Apparently, he has, or had a in

1949
01:56:08,490 --> 01:56:13,410
his office he had a replica of
and this may be this may be CIA?

1950
01:56:13,710 --> 01:56:17,310
PR bullcrap. Because of course,
I don't know for sure. But

1951
01:56:17,310 --> 01:56:22,500
apparently he had a, like the
the Star Trek, like the bridge,

1952
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:26,880
replicated. And then with a big
chair with a captain's chair.

1953
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:31,050
And he had the big screen in the
middle of cage. Yeah, but he was

1954
01:56:31,050 --> 01:56:34,440
bringing congressmen and
senators over I think this is in

1955
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,830
Florida. So they could come in,
you know, and and think about

1956
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:42,840
how that's exactly what these
nincompoop senators think is

1957
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:46,230
what it is right? They think
that oh, yes, no, this is all

1958
01:56:46,230 --> 01:56:49,650
cyber stuff. And this is exactly
how we need to this is how it

1959
01:56:49,650 --> 01:56:52,860
goes. And we have to be very,
very, very, very careful of

1960
01:56:52,860 --> 01:56:55,830
what's happening. And, and of
course, you know, if you listen

1961
01:56:55,830 --> 01:56:59,310
to Stuart Baker, former
Department of Homeland Security

1962
01:56:59,310 --> 01:57:04,110
Secretary, depending on how
things go with Syria, it's going

1963
01:57:04,110 --> 01:57:06,480
to cause direct cyber attacks.

1964
01:57:06,930 --> 01:57:12,000
This, we absolutely need to
prepare here. By taking on

1965
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:17,400
Syria, we are also taking on
Hezbollah and Iran, backers of

1966
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:24,840
that regime and if they choose
to try to make the the United

1967
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:30,390
States regret the sanctions it
imposes they have very

1968
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:34,500
substantial capabilities, has
beleid has its own cruise

1969
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:37,320
missiles. And so I didn't know

1970
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,990
that by the way, Hezbollah has
its own cruise missiles,

1971
01:57:40,590 --> 01:57:45,060
two pieces of crap. A terrorist
organization with that kind of

1972
01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:50,040
capability certainly can develop
and use cyber attacks or can

1973
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:54,150
send people to the United States
to carry out attacks. So we

1974
01:57:54,150 --> 01:57:58,260
would have to go on a pretty
substantial alert basis, they

1975
01:57:58,260 --> 01:58:02,760
would be biting off a lot.
They're already on alert against

1976
01:58:02,940 --> 01:58:06,450
Israel and fighting in Syria
themselves. So they may decide

1977
01:58:06,450 --> 01:58:09,780
that it's not prudent to attack
now wait for it. It's not a

1978
01:58:09,780 --> 01:58:13,740
strategy for us. We need to be
worried about defensive

1979
01:58:14,010 --> 01:58:18,030
capabilities. And for the first
time, we faced the risk that we

1980
01:58:18,030 --> 01:58:23,580
will have a cyber attack aimed
at getting us to quit engaging

1981
01:58:23,580 --> 01:58:30,960
in military action. Iran is
widely blamed for a series of

1982
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:35,460
attacks on our financial
institutions that have been

1983
01:58:35,460 --> 01:58:40,470
visibly punch pulling exercises
in which the the attackers Oh,

1984
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:40,710
now,

1985
01:58:41,550 --> 01:58:44,400
this didn't happen. It just
didn't happen. There is no

1986
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:49,080
evidence of this. We've had
media reports that sounded a bit

1987
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,680
like it but it was a drill. We
had the cyber drills for the

1988
01:58:52,710 --> 01:58:55,530
FBI. We did them Yeah, but it
was a drill and there's I

1989
01:58:55,530 --> 01:58:57,720
haven't heard anything about
this the attack will

1990
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:03,390
last and what day it will
happen. And obviously they could

1991
01:59:03,390 --> 01:59:10,200
do more and cause more damage.
And again arann having blamed us

1992
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:11,070
for Stuxnet.

1993
01:59:11,130 --> 01:59:16,410
Hello, we admitted Stuxnet is
this not at this point it's just

1994
01:59:16,410 --> 01:59:17,040
known

1995
01:59:18,090 --> 01:59:23,640
for the day to is going to be
less constrained about using

1996
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,610
that kind of weapon against the
United States on behalf of an

1997
01:59:26,610 --> 01:59:32,370
ally like Syria so we will have
to up our game both physically

1998
01:59:32,370 --> 01:59:37,050
and virtually virtually up your
game up your game that's a dead

1999
01:59:37,050 --> 01:59:39,360
little phrase keeps cropping up
your game yeah

2000
01:59:39,390 --> 01:59:40,950
up your game got up our game.

2001
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:42,960
I'm gonna come on come on. Oh

2002
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,750
my Lord. This is Abdullah. I'm
calling to internet series Sinai

2003
01:59:45,750 --> 01:59:49,950
internet cafe. Are you there?
Yeah. Do you guys have PHP do I

2004
01:59:49,950 --> 01:59:52,890
have root access if I come into
the internet cafe because I got

2005
01:59:52,890 --> 01:59:54,840
to drop some stuff here on the
US.

2006
01:59:55,620 --> 02:00:00,840
You bet. Game baby. This
bullcrap Yeah. And Well, that's

2007
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:04,770
the former Secretary DeVos,
former director

2008
02:00:04,830 --> 02:00:08,490
of this is all part of the
scheme just to soak the public.

2009
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:13,890
Yeah. Of Money. of money. Yeah,
I know $4 billion for this cyber

2010
02:00:13,950 --> 02:00:15,660
army they're supposed to be
putting together

2011
02:00:15,660 --> 02:00:18,120
but I thought the total was
like, 18 that they're looking

2012
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:18,690
for? Well, we

2013
02:00:18,690 --> 02:00:19,530
gotta get in on.

2014
02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:27,870
Yeah, I can't even build a
podcast device. Almost. We're

2015
02:00:27,870 --> 02:00:32,160
almost there. We're almost
there. A little agenda 21 stuff

2016
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:35,670
for a moment, John. Of course.
The news is now here. It's

2017
02:00:35,670 --> 02:00:38,760
predicted to be an above average
hurricane season this year due

2018
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:42,210
to a warmer Atlantic. With
nearly three months to go. CSU

2019
02:00:42,210 --> 02:00:43,800
is murky now ranking season.

2020
02:00:45,300 --> 02:00:46,830
You know, I'll play it again.

2021
02:00:47,130 --> 02:00:50,130
It was predicted to be an above
average hurricane season this

2022
02:00:50,130 --> 02:00:53,640
year due to a warmer Atlantic
with nearly three months to go

2023
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:56,130
CSU researchers are now revising
their hurricane estimates

2024
02:00:56,130 --> 02:00:58,650
because there have been no major
storms.

2025
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:02,760
Oh my goodness. So it's very
interesting what's taking place

2026
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:11,610
now. The the messengers are out
in full force on this on the

2027
02:01:11,910 --> 02:01:16,170
pause button on the global
warming which now all scientists

2028
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:20,280
agree that the warming has
paused. But But of course

2029
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,490
everyone is freaking out
explaining and by the way, I am

2030
02:01:23,490 --> 02:01:30,480
living inside the book. What was
it? What was Oh, come on, but

2031
02:01:30,690 --> 02:01:35,070
the bookie made me read the the
dead writer. Come on. I'm

2032
02:01:35,070 --> 02:01:36,030
drawing a blank here.

2033
02:01:36,090 --> 02:01:37,290
The dead writer.

2034
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:42,420
Yeah, the dead guy who wrote the
book? Yes. Michael Creighton,

2035
02:01:42,420 --> 02:01:43,260
what's the name of the book?

2036
02:01:43,770 --> 02:01:47,460
Yeah, the hell is the name of
the book Tritons book on global

2037
02:01:47,460 --> 02:01:47,700
warming.

2038
02:01:48,990 --> 02:01:52,320
Crisis in cycling encyclopedia
on global warming? No, it was,

2039
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:53,460
oh my god, Brian,

2040
02:01:53,610 --> 02:01:57,420
just hit the shove a favor and
go to the book of knowledge. And

2041
02:01:57,420 --> 02:01:59,370
I'm not gonna do that. Yeah,
I'll do it.

2042
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,370
Alright, so what has come out
and it came out in the Daily

2043
02:02:02,370 --> 02:02:09,150
Mail. Although, you know, not
the epitome of journalism, not

2044
02:02:09,150 --> 02:02:15,390
the pinnacle. This Daily Mail
article does show the facts that

2045
02:02:15,420 --> 02:02:19,890
the Arctic cap has is 60% bigger
than it was last year. And of

2046
02:02:19,890 --> 02:02:22,890
course, this is where everybody
is freaking out like this is how

2047
02:02:22,890 --> 02:02:26,010
abrogate were fear and fear.
Thank you very much. Yeah,

2048
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:30,090
stupid. I can't believe we
forgot that. Anyway, our friend

2049
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:35,130
Faraj Farraj, took this actually
printed out the NASA photographs

2050
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:40,800
of the ice cap and took it to to
shut up. Burroughs game. They're

2051
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:44,370
in the Euro Parliament, which is
always good for a laugh. You

2052
02:02:44,370 --> 02:02:47,730
keep telling us the climate
change is an absolute top

2053
02:02:47,910 --> 02:02:51,870
priority. And you've been
greeted with almost hysteria in

2054
02:02:51,870 --> 02:02:55,050
this place over the last 10
years. Well, those of us that

2055
02:02:55,050 --> 02:02:58,650
have been skeptical about this
have been mocked, derided,

2056
02:02:58,740 --> 02:03:02,880
called deniers. We've argued
from the start, that the science

2057
02:03:02,910 --> 02:03:06,210
wasn't settled. And we've argued
very strongly that the measures

2058
02:03:06,210 --> 02:03:09,900
we're taking to combat what may
or may not be a problem, are

2059
02:03:09,900 --> 02:03:13,860
damaging our citizens. And we've
been proved to be right 10s of

2060
02:03:13,860 --> 02:03:15,630
millions forced into fuel
poverty,

2061
02:03:17,340 --> 02:03:21,210
manufacturing industry being
driven away, because of course,

2062
02:03:21,210 --> 02:03:25,110
our competitors in China and in
America are going for cheap

2063
02:03:25,110 --> 02:03:28,470
fossil alternatives. And of
course, wind turbines, blighting

2064
02:03:28,620 --> 02:03:32,370
the landscapes and seascapes of
Europe and still today, you go

2065
02:03:32,370 --> 02:03:35,760
on about green growth. Well, the
consensus is breaking behind

2066
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:39,030
you, you know, Commissioner to
Johnny, at the other day said

2067
02:03:39,690 --> 02:03:43,440
that actually, we face a
systematic industrial massacre,

2068
02:03:43,470 --> 02:03:46,620
it is time to stop this
stupidity. And to help you.

2069
02:03:46,950 --> 02:03:50,610
There's the NASA photograph,
last August of the ice cap, the

2070
02:03:50,610 --> 02:03:54,510
northern ice caps, and there is
the NASA photograph this year of

2071
02:03:54,510 --> 02:03:59,730
the ice caps, it has increased
by 60%. In one year, leading

2072
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:02,760
American scientists are now
saying, we are going into a

2073
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:08,130
period of between 15 and 30
years of global cooling, we may

2074
02:04:08,130 --> 02:04:11,790
have made one of the biggest
stupid as collective mistakes in

2075
02:04:11,790 --> 02:04:15,180
history by getting so worried
about global warming. You can

2076
02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:18,210
reverse this in the next seven
or eight months, you can bring

2077
02:04:18,210 --> 02:04:22,230
down people's taxes if you
don't, they'll vote on it in the

2078
02:04:22,230 --> 02:04:24,900
European elections of next year.
There you go.

2079
02:04:26,190 --> 02:04:28,740
And what I don't understand is
that everyone is fighting this

2080
02:04:28,740 --> 02:04:34,140
when you know, the whole idea is
climate change. If if I were all

2081
02:04:34,140 --> 02:04:40,590
of the people slapping down the
deniers I would say yeah, I

2082
02:04:40,590 --> 02:04:42,930
would take a whole different
tactic and not try and defend

2083
02:04:42,930 --> 02:04:46,350
the warming as Oh, it's normal.
This is how it works with

2084
02:04:46,380 --> 02:04:51,060
different people are showing
graphs of you know of the of the

2085
02:04:51,090 --> 02:04:54,420
warming, but it's just you know,
over time statistics, you know,

2086
02:04:54,420 --> 02:04:57,120
all kinds of weird things that
are pulling out why don't you

2087
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,610
just say yeah, change can be
negative too. Why don't they get

2088
02:04:59,610 --> 02:05:03,150
over it? already and just call
the climate change negative and

2089
02:05:03,150 --> 02:05:05,370
say, Okay, it's cooling,
whatever, it doesn't make any

2090
02:05:05,370 --> 02:05:07,890
difference. Why can't they do
that? John? Why can't they just

2091
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:11,280
go with the flow? That's what I
would advise them? Well, the

2092
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:15,150
problem is no, you can't do
that. That's wrong. Oh, the

2093
02:05:15,150 --> 02:05:19,050
global coolest, which we're,
which is 70. We are learning, we

2094
02:05:19,050 --> 02:05:21,660
are a part of the coolers. Yeah,
we're a couple coolers. And we

2095
02:05:21,660 --> 02:05:24,060
think it's just an attempt to
kill people

2096
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:27,450
to what has happened buying
bathing suits, when they really

2097
02:05:27,450 --> 02:05:27,720
don't know

2098
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:31,050
you get them, you get it, if you
can get an ice age started, you

2099
02:05:31,050 --> 02:05:36,030
can't stop it. And it's possible
to get one started. And maybe we

2100
02:05:36,030 --> 02:05:37,020
may have done that. Hold

2101
02:05:37,020 --> 02:05:39,060
on. So how do you how do you
start an ice age?

2102
02:05:39,540 --> 02:05:42,990
By cutting down on you know,
cutting down on your co2 and

2103
02:05:43,050 --> 02:05:47,670
doing everything you can to do
the opposite of you know,

2104
02:05:48,630 --> 02:05:50,610
this is new. I like this. Now,
we

2105
02:05:50,610 --> 02:05:53,850
talked about this before,
there's no I don't think we've

2106
02:05:53,850 --> 02:05:56,040
actually put Yes, yes, we have.
Well, I

2107
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:59,460
can assure you. Well, I didn't
get it at the time, then. Now I

2108
02:05:59,460 --> 02:06:00,060
get it.

2109
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:02,250
Yeah, it was part of that we
would destroy we're talking

2110
02:06:02,250 --> 02:06:05,610
about population control, right.
So in order to best way to do

2111
02:06:05,610 --> 02:06:09,180
that is to create a cooling
water cooler, go go cooling and

2112
02:06:09,180 --> 02:06:12,660
freeze everybody. I kill them
all. And oh, yeah, no,

2113
02:06:12,660 --> 02:06:15,060
no, that's why I moved to Texas.
Yeah. Now I remember though, we

2114
02:06:15,060 --> 02:06:16,350
did talk about it. Yes, you're
right

2115
02:06:16,350 --> 02:06:19,170
shake when it finally settles
out. Yeah, that'd be great. Over

2116
02:06:19,170 --> 02:06:23,370
here, it's gonna be okay. So you
don't want to reverse things and

2117
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:25,710
put the coolest back in there
that the thing is you can't,

2118
02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:29,850
you'll be observed and people
can can make adjustments

2119
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:32,550
properly. Instead of doing what
they're doing now, which is

2120
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:36,510
freaking out and start slowing
down everything they can to get

2121
02:06:36,510 --> 02:06:40,320
the hopefully get the we knew
this before in the 70s. They I

2122
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:43,650
had all the documentation
showing how we were headed to a

2123
02:06:43,650 --> 02:06:45,930
global cooling period, you just
had to go back and read those

2124
02:06:45,930 --> 02:06:49,530
articles. And half the people
that were involved with the

2125
02:06:49,530 --> 02:06:52,560
cooling are now involved with
the warming and the other half

2126
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:56,250
are still that there's a number
of people. There's a number of

2127
02:06:56,250 --> 02:06:59,370
people that were involved in the
cooling in the 70s are still

2128
02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:00,780
arguing for cooling. Yeah, well

2129
02:07:00,780 --> 02:07:04,230
that's like the the doctor that
we had on a couple of weeks ago

2130
02:07:04,260 --> 02:07:10,170
with with all of his he was
testifying in the in the house.

2131
02:07:10,469 --> 02:07:13,379
Yeah, I got a letter from one of
our producers about that. Oh,

2132
02:07:13,379 --> 02:07:18,359
what they didn't? Yeah, he's a
known whack job. You guys need

2133
02:07:18,359 --> 02:07:22,109
to read more material you don't
read well enough. You're short

2134
02:07:22,109 --> 02:07:24,959
shooting the old global warming
is gonna kill us all.

2135
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:29,520
Yeah, it is. The response to
global warming is gonna kill us

2136
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:30,570
all. Absolutely.

2137
02:07:32,130 --> 02:07:35,940
Oh, anyway. Well, I sent him a
note back saying you know, I'm

2138
02:07:35,940 --> 02:07:39,330
sorry. You feel that way. Just
keep Donate. Donate more maybe.

2139
02:07:39,750 --> 02:07:45,300
Already. Science. Oh, I got a
funny thing here where it was

2140
02:07:45,300 --> 02:07:48,690
it. Let me see if I can find it.
Well, while

2141
02:07:48,690 --> 02:07:51,090
you're looking for that, here's
a little clip you can play. So

2142
02:07:51,090 --> 02:07:54,540
the news our thanks to Bill and
Melinda Gates. Of course. He has

2143
02:07:54,540 --> 02:07:57,930
the new news hour, half hour,
the half hour the news hour,

2144
02:07:57,930 --> 02:08:01,110
half hours. That's done so
Monday, they had the they

2145
02:08:01,110 --> 02:08:04,350
revamped the regular news hour
to Oh, okay, and now it's like

2146
02:08:04,350 --> 02:08:07,260
Huntley and Brinkley has a full
hour the News Hour. Yes, it

2147
02:08:07,260 --> 02:08:11,520
regular news hour that isn't
outright good seriously. They

2148
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:16,320
have this a Huntley and Brinkley
set up real modern from the 50s.

2149
02:08:16,620 --> 02:08:23,250
And it's Glenn I full of Gwen
Eiffel. And from now on is Glen,

2150
02:08:23,370 --> 02:08:28,170
Glen. Glen are at the they're
there with each other and their

2151
02:08:28,170 --> 02:08:30,810
yak and knew each other and just
like it's like a little report,

2152
02:08:30,810 --> 02:08:33,750
it's more exciting. And they've
changed the set. So there's a

2153
02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:36,750
couple monitors behind him,
because that's more modern,

2154
02:08:36,780 --> 02:08:38,610
do they 3d stuff going on?

2155
02:08:40,020 --> 02:08:43,770
And there's still no whooshing
sounds in today's report,

2156
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:48,810
none of that stuff yet. Yeah.
It's it's forthcoming, though.

2157
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:51,900
So here's the rap. This is the
first this is the first rap and

2158
02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:54,030
then I have to describe what
happened as they pulled the

2159
02:08:54,030 --> 02:08:54,480
camera

2160
02:08:54,660 --> 02:08:58,500
numbers on making sense. All
that and more is on our website,

2161
02:08:58,500 --> 02:09:03,780
news. our.pbs.org. And that's
the news. Our for tonight on

2162
02:09:03,780 --> 02:09:07,170
Tuesday, President Obama
addresses the nation to try to

2163
02:09:07,170 --> 02:09:10,530
build public support for
military action against Syria.

2164
02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:12,240
I'm Judy Woodruff. And I

2165
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:16,020
went IFO we'll see you online
and again here tomorrow evening.

2166
02:09:16,140 --> 02:09:18,870
He made it through the night we
did on behalf of all of us at

2167
02:09:18,870 --> 02:09:21,450
the PBS news hour. Thank you and
good night.

2168
02:09:22,260 --> 02:09:25,770
So when someone says that it
means it was a nightmare to get

2169
02:09:25,770 --> 02:09:29,700
this thing produced has been
gaslighted by now that means it

2170
02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:30,120
was a night

2171
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:33,090
and then they do a commercial
for the railways but then at the

2172
02:09:33,090 --> 02:09:36,240
very end as a pulling counter
back the two of them do a fist

2173
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:37,380
bump. No.

2174
02:09:39,060 --> 02:09:45,150
No, yes. No, though. Really?
Yeah. Oh, that is so wrong in so

2175
02:09:45,150 --> 02:09:47,010
many ways. A fist bump.

2176
02:09:47,370 --> 02:09:52,200
Yeah. Guzman I feel sheep grant
Glen Ross when she holds her

2177
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:55,230
fist active for Judy who's
looking at it. She's like

2178
02:09:55,230 --> 02:09:57,720
curious it's kind of you know,
they're pulling camera back so I

2179
02:09:57,720 --> 02:09:59,970
don't know if she's winking and
blinking but then she she gives

2180
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,090
Do the fist bump. And then
iPhone just goes crazy thinking

2181
02:10:03,090 --> 02:10:07,650
that's fantastic. No, yeah. I'm
gonna just say, Oh bot fit fist

2182
02:10:07,650 --> 02:10:12,390
bump? Wow, let me just see I
just said, Oh my god, this is

2183
02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:13,230
don't draw that.

2184
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:17,040
Well, John from now on at the
end of the of the best podcast

2185
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:20,370
in the university you and I will
do a fist bump. Yeah, bump. I

2186
02:10:20,370 --> 02:10:21,750
think we should I think we can
totally

2187
02:10:22,110 --> 02:10:23,280
bumped the mic like this?

2188
02:10:23,730 --> 02:10:29,070
Well, no, we'll just do we'll
just do a real one. So while

2189
02:10:29,070 --> 02:10:33,690
you're watching mainstream crap,
I received a little clip from

2190
02:10:33,690 --> 02:10:37,380
our friends over there at the
twit network. And I just thought

2191
02:10:37,380 --> 02:10:41,160
that was a was too funny. I have
to play it. And I'm playing it

2192
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:42,990
on Thursday. Because you know,
it's Sunday. And when you're

2193
02:10:42,990 --> 02:10:44,790
going up there, I don't want to
mess around with you. But this

2194
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:51,300
is Leo. After you know, all the
revelations about all the spying

2195
02:10:51,300 --> 02:10:56,640
from the NSA. And just Yeah,
essentially, here is and Leo

2196
02:10:56,640 --> 02:11:00,960
isn't known Obama, but he hears
his dismay and disappointment

2197
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,990
and how he explains that in 15
seconds, which I just I'm very

2198
02:11:03,990 --> 02:11:07,230
proud to have this only cynics
knew what was going on.

2199
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:11,460
In some ways, this is what
really pains me the most is that

2200
02:11:11,460 --> 02:11:15,090
the most cynical conspiracy
minded people in this country

2201
02:11:15,090 --> 02:11:18,960
have been proven right. And that
bothers me because I wanted to

2202
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:19,740
believe in the government

2203
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:24,030
fist bump, Leo,

2204
02:11:24,930 --> 02:11:31,770
I think I hope that we don't
make it habit at this sort of

2205
02:11:31,770 --> 02:11:36,480
thing. Really ridiculing these,
these Obama bots. What do you

2206
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,480
mean, I feel sorry, I know I
have dinner with them.

2207
02:11:39,510 --> 02:11:40,800
I have dinner point.

2208
02:11:40,830 --> 02:11:43,830
You do you do? I don't know if I
could handle.

2209
02:11:44,190 --> 02:11:47,970
Let him tell you something. You
know, these are my they're my

2210
02:11:47,970 --> 02:11:52,590
friends. We went to Marfa.
Marfa, Texas, which if it wasn't

2211
02:11:52,590 --> 02:11:54,810
raining can actually be quite
cool because they've got the

2212
02:11:54,810 --> 02:11:59,040
Davis observatory there. There's
all kinds of you know, I want to

2213
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:02,070
do some ham radio tests. But it
was really it was raining. We

2214
02:12:02,070 --> 02:12:04,440
were there with Laurie Frick.
She has an exhibit, which is a

2215
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:07,530
big deal in October. So she's
setting up for that. But guess

2216
02:12:07,530 --> 02:12:12,240
what, at the next dinner at the
next obat dinner she is bringing

2217
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:15,450
in you're gonna love this. Oh,
she's bringing in a raise

2218
02:12:15,450 --> 02:12:19,860
bringing in a ringer a president
of Hill and Knowlton.

2219
02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:27,900
Wow, aha, you might like to do
almost like feel like playing

2220
02:12:27,900 --> 02:12:31,530
this clip, which I keep putting
on here just in case we need a

2221
02:12:31,530 --> 02:12:36,450
real long clip, which is the
lies that were used in

2222
02:12:36,450 --> 02:12:39,210
propagated by Hill and Knowlton
at a committee meeting.

2223
02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:42,330
Congressional committee meeting
was actually held at a Hill and

2224
02:12:42,330 --> 02:12:47,640
Knowlton office I found out
sense that that got the Kuwait

2225
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:51,360
war going and I'm was going to
use it as a segue when we talk

2226
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,180
about how there's the bully
pulpit and the president can

2227
02:12:54,180 --> 02:12:57,690
achieve a lot and that's what
George HW Bush did. No, George

2228
02:12:57,690 --> 02:13:02,100
HW Bush and everybody else use
this this shill who came out and

2229
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:05,130
claimed to see a bunch of crap
she never saw. She was the

2230
02:13:05,130 --> 02:13:09,600
ambassador's daughter. And she
went before Congress and lied.

2231
02:13:10,230 --> 02:13:12,240
This is about the kids in the
incubators.

2232
02:13:12,570 --> 02:13:15,570
Yeah. And this is not under
oath, of course, because they're

2233
02:13:15,570 --> 02:13:16,380
not idiots.

2234
02:13:18,090 --> 02:13:20,070
Well, I think we should play
this because this is a good

2235
02:13:20,070 --> 02:13:24,690
setup to the dinner now. It'll
be a couple of weeks yet, and I

2236
02:13:24,690 --> 02:13:29,430
warned Laura. Really? Uh, you
really? You do know who I am.

2237
02:13:29,460 --> 02:13:33,120
You've listened to the show,
haven't you? You've listened to

2238
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:36,810
what I say about you my list.
Oh, yeah. Oh, shall I tell you

2239
02:13:36,810 --> 02:13:39,030
something? You know, Mark, you
met Mark. Right. You know what

2240
02:13:39,030 --> 02:13:41,850
he does? Yeah. You know he does
for a living.

2241
02:13:43,020 --> 02:13:45,840
He's a I understand. He's a
taxidermist.

2242
02:13:45,900 --> 02:13:50,820
Yeah, exactly. So he said to me,
I did not short Raytheon. Oh,

2243
02:13:50,820 --> 02:13:52,110
you know, the guys listening?

2244
02:13:54,210 --> 02:13:56,760
Well, he might be listening. I
don't think his wife is to

2245
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:02,640
very much. Our final witness is
also using an assumed name. And

2246
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:08,130
again, we ask our friends in the
media to respect the need to,

2247
02:14:08,370 --> 02:14:10,530
for her to protect her family.

2248
02:14:11,190 --> 02:14:14,910
Wow, this is all ready. I'd
forgotten how good this is.

2249
02:14:14,940 --> 02:14:19,890
And this is you got to remember,
every single thing is a lie. The

2250
02:14:19,890 --> 02:14:23,640
Rockies did not go into that
hospital to throw babies on the

2251
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:27,030
ground. In fact of testimony.
They were the information that

2252
02:14:27,030 --> 02:14:30,270
came out later was 1000 Iraqis
actually did go to that hospital

2253
02:14:30,270 --> 02:14:32,190
to help you finally call on

2254
02:14:32,220 --> 02:14:36,300
Nyira to testify. And he's in
his Lieberman, who's doing this

2255
02:14:36,300 --> 02:14:36,780
setup.

2256
02:14:36,930 --> 02:14:39,840
No, no, no, this was some other
guys. Sounds like Lieberman.

2257
02:14:39,870 --> 02:14:40,170
All right.

2258
02:14:42,270 --> 02:14:46,110
Mr. Chairman and members of the
committee, my name is Neha. I

2259
02:14:46,110 --> 02:14:47,280
just came out of Kuwait.

2260
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,970
My mother and I were in Kuwait
on August 2 for a peaceful

2261
02:14:56,970 --> 02:15:02,340
summer holiday. My older sister
had a Maybe on July 29, and we

2262
02:15:02,340 --> 02:15:06,690
wanted to spend some time in
Kuwait with her. I only pray

2263
02:15:06,690 --> 02:15:09,060
that none of my 10th grade
classmates had a summer vacation

2264
02:15:09,060 --> 02:15:16,470
like I did. And there were some
time that could be an adult that

2265
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:21,750
could grow up quickly when I saw
happened to the children have

2266
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:26,670
quit, and to my country has
changed my life forever. As to

2267
02:15:26,670 --> 02:15:31,110
the life of all Kuwaitis, young
and old, your children no more.

2268
02:15:35,070 --> 02:15:39,360
My sister, my five year old
nephew, traveled across the

2269
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:44,250
desert to save safety. There is
no milk available for vaping

2270
02:15:44,250 --> 02:15:49,440
quit. They barely escaped when
their car was stuck in the

2271
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:55,650
Desert, desert sand and help
came from Saudi Arabia. I stayed

2272
02:15:55,650 --> 02:16:00,180
behind and wanted to do
something for my country. The

2273
02:16:00,180 --> 02:16:03,870
second week after an invasion, I
volunteered I volunteered at the

2274
02:16:03,870 --> 02:16:08,130
ALA dine hospital with 12 other
women that wanted to help as

2275
02:16:08,130 --> 02:16:12,990
well. I was the youngest
volunteer. Other women were from

2276
02:16:12,990 --> 02:16:17,640
20 to 30 years old. While I was
there I saw the Iraqi soldiers

2277
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:21,600
come into the hospital with guns
they took the babies out of

2278
02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:28,530
incubators incubators and left
the children to die on the cold

2279
02:16:28,530 --> 02:16:29,010
floor

2280
02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:35,370
I think I think the ripping the
heart out of a soldier and

2281
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:37,500
eating it is an upgrade from
this

2282
02:16:38,459 --> 02:16:40,259
I'm telling I do have to
remember it as you're listening

2283
02:16:40,259 --> 02:16:42,539
to this this is a pack of lies

2284
02:16:42,570 --> 02:16:45,690
yeah she was the daughter of the
ambassador right? Yeah diplomat

2285
02:16:45,690 --> 02:16:45,930
Yeah.

2286
02:16:46,020 --> 02:16:49,380
And she was apparently I guess
she was taking acting lessons to

2287
02:16:49,410 --> 02:16:50,430
oh whatever the case

2288
02:16:50,700 --> 02:16:54,030
your award winning on audio
video I don't I don't recall how

2289
02:16:54,030 --> 02:16:54,300
good

2290
02:16:54,300 --> 02:16:56,340
I do it. It was good. Yeah,

2291
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:59,370
it didn't she she did the job.
That's very this is do we need

2292
02:16:59,370 --> 02:16:59,880
to play more?

2293
02:17:00,209 --> 02:17:05,189
Yeah, play a little bit more.
Right on cue.

2294
02:17:08,010 --> 02:17:11,940
I cannot help but think of my
nephew who's born premature

2295
02:17:11,940 --> 02:17:16,230
might have died that day as
well. After

2296
02:17:18,270 --> 02:17:21,810
I get to do it once in a while.
I like the double sniff the

2297
02:17:21,810 --> 02:17:27,510
Double. Double sniff is the eye
actually I think that's a tell a

2298
02:17:27,510 --> 02:17:28,950
double sniff when you think
maybe

2299
02:17:28,980 --> 02:17:32,820
my my friends and I distributed
flyers condemning their invasion

2300
02:17:33,210 --> 02:17:35,910
until we were warned we might be
killed if they're actually

2301
02:17:35,910 --> 02:17:41,460
sauce, their size. We have
destroyed everything in Kuwait.

2302
02:17:42,330 --> 02:17:45,480
This district the supermarkets
of food, pharmacies and

2303
02:17:45,480 --> 02:17:49,140
medicine, the factories and
medical supplies, supplies,

2304
02:17:49,770 --> 02:17:52,410
ransack their houses and
tortured neighbors and friends.

2305
02:17:53,700 --> 02:17:56,070
I saw and talked to a friend of
mine after his torture and

2306
02:17:56,070 --> 02:17:57,570
released by the Rockies. You
know

2307
02:17:57,570 --> 02:18:00,660
if we're doing the show back
then we would have said Who says

2308
02:18:00,660 --> 02:18:05,070
ransacked? No one uses that word
we would have called bull crap

2309
02:18:05,070 --> 02:18:05,460
on this.

2310
02:18:05,490 --> 02:18:08,220
Well, yeah, that's it. She's
reading every word of this from

2311
02:18:08,220 --> 02:18:11,310
a script. Yeah. She's not saying
anything. She's not talking.

2312
02:18:11,310 --> 02:18:14,520
She's reading right was the
sniffing in between. It probably

2313
02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:15,210
says sniff

2314
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:17,010
sniff sniff

2315
02:18:17,160 --> 02:18:19,920
he's 22. But it looked as though
he could have been an old man.

2316
02:18:20,910 --> 02:18:23,580
Iraqis done his head into a
swimming pool until he almost

2317
02:18:23,580 --> 02:18:26,430
drowned. They pulled out his
fingernails and then played

2318
02:18:26,430 --> 02:18:31,620
electric shock sensitive private
parts of his body. I don't

2319
02:18:31,620 --> 02:18:32,190
remember that.

2320
02:18:32,220 --> 02:18:34,590
That's funny. Oh, this whole
thing gets better. That's the

2321
02:18:34,620 --> 02:18:35,370
reason he was

2322
02:18:35,370 --> 02:18:39,090
like this before or after
eyeball gripe the well this

2323
02:18:39,090 --> 02:18:43,530
isn't this is a 91 because that
George HW Bush

2324
02:18:43,530 --> 02:18:47,400
that already pulled the shock to
the testes thing then. Yeah.

2325
02:18:47,430 --> 02:18:48,090
Wow.

2326
02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:51,780
Oh, this is really an old clip.
I mean, yeah, this is if we were

2327
02:18:51,780 --> 02:18:52,470
around.

2328
02:18:53,129 --> 02:18:55,019
It's a no agenda, classic clip.

2329
02:18:55,920 --> 02:19:00,330
He was lucky to survive. If an
American soldier was found dead

2330
02:19:00,330 --> 02:19:03,600
in a neighborhood, they burned
to the ground all the houses in

2331
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:06,990
the general vicinity, they would
not let firefighters come until

2332
02:19:07,380 --> 02:19:12,330
until all the ash and rubble was
left. The Rockies were making

2333
02:19:12,330 --> 02:19:14,670
fun of President Bush and
verbally and physically abusing

2334
02:19:14,670 --> 02:19:18,210
my family and me on our way out
of Kuwait. We only did so

2335
02:19:18,210 --> 02:19:22,650
because life in Kuwait became
unbearable. that forced us to

2336
02:19:22,650 --> 02:19:27,030
hide Bernard, destroy everything
identifying our country and our

2337
02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:31,680
government. I want to emphasize
that quite as our mother and

2338
02:19:31,680 --> 02:19:36,420
their father repeated, repeated
this on the roofs of our houses

2339
02:19:36,420 --> 02:19:40,080
and quaint until the records
began shooting at us. And we

2340
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:45,240
shall repeat it again. I'm glad
I'm 15 old enough to remember

2341
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:48,810
quite the first lesson destroyed
and young enough to rebuild it.

2342
02:19:49,170 --> 02:19:49,710
Thank you.

2343
02:19:51,570 --> 02:19:56,130
My goodness, and everything was
a lie. Every single bit of every

2344
02:19:56,160 --> 02:19:59,280
at every aspect of that
testimony was a lie. Think about

2345
02:19:59,280 --> 02:20:01,380
this was actually done in the
basement of Hill and Knowlton,

2346
02:20:01,380 --> 02:20:04,860
there was a subcommittee of a
subcommittee that Tom Lantos had

2347
02:20:05,130 --> 02:20:09,420
about which is still floating
around. And it was a the whole

2348
02:20:09,420 --> 02:20:14,190
thing was completely rigged.
Hill and Knowlton to this day go

2349
02:20:14,190 --> 02:20:17,340
out of their way to deny most of
this even though the evidence is

2350
02:20:17,340 --> 02:20:20,610
stacked against them and they
refused to actually say we're

2351
02:20:20,610 --> 02:20:24,570
sorry, because they got slammed
by the old pump to do the PR

2352
02:20:24,570 --> 02:20:28,440
community itself. Once Once the
word got out who this woman was

2353
02:20:28,440 --> 02:20:32,100
in and she never even volunteer
for anything according to the

2354
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:36,720
hospital staff she showed up one
day for a few minutes and left I

2355
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:37,710
guess just handling

2356
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:40,890
808 All the Girl Scout cookies

2357
02:20:42,090 --> 02:20:46,410
she it's a whole thing was a
complete fabrication a complete

2358
02:20:46,410 --> 02:20:49,740
lie with the little additions
Oh, they're just they're making

2359
02:20:49,740 --> 02:20:55,020
fun of of you know, the Iraqis
are making fun of your President

2360
02:20:55,020 --> 02:20:58,950
and yet you know, this little
needless littlest assertions so

2361
02:20:58,950 --> 02:20:59,250
I can't

2362
02:20:59,250 --> 02:21:01,860
I can't wait to bring this up at
dinner. This will be a lot of

2363
02:21:01,860 --> 02:21:05,550
fun. Hey, hey, how about about
the got any babies and

2364
02:21:05,550 --> 02:21:07,050
incubators on the floor?

2365
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:11,490
Pelvis, you can really you might
kill your dinner thing going

2366
02:21:11,490 --> 02:21:11,790
with this?

2367
02:21:12,210 --> 02:21:13,080
That's no,

2368
02:21:13,380 --> 02:21:16,350
according you gotta ask him read
through here. The wiki page on

2369
02:21:16,350 --> 02:21:19,860
this is quite good. And then you
have the clips. So you I would

2370
02:21:19,860 --> 02:21:20,250
listen to

2371
02:21:20,730 --> 02:21:25,710
John. John. Stop egging me on.
Are you insane? I'm not gonna I

2372
02:21:25,710 --> 02:21:26,940
gotta be careful here.

2373
02:21:27,779 --> 02:21:30,689
Let's just read the wiki page
and then just drop a bomb in

2374
02:21:30,689 --> 02:21:33,779
there. And it just I here's what
I would ask. I'd say oh, good to

2375
02:21:33,779 --> 02:21:36,209
meet you. Oh, Hill and Knowlton.
Yeah, yeah. You know, I remember

2376
02:21:36,209 --> 02:21:39,329
that thing to do with that girl
that the ambassador's daughter

2377
02:21:39,329 --> 02:21:42,119
with a phony testimony that she
did? That was great. She's ever

2378
02:21:42,119 --> 02:21:43,139
apologize for that. No,

2379
02:21:43,140 --> 02:21:46,080
no, I think I'm gonna it's gonna
be different. So we'd like can

2380
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:48,780
you pass the potatoes? I think
they've been incubating in the

2381
02:21:48,780 --> 02:21:54,240
pot long enough. Oh, don't drop
them on the floor. Nice baby

2382
02:21:54,240 --> 02:22:02,040
potatoes they dropped on the
floor that we're incubating in

2383
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:08,670
the pot. Oh yes, I feel they're
gonna they're gonna tar and

2384
02:22:08,670 --> 02:22:10,710
feather me and run me out of
town is what's gonna

2385
02:22:10,710 --> 02:22:13,290
happen out of them remember this
including that guy?

2386
02:22:13,500 --> 02:22:16,050
Hey, that's a classic clip here
on the no agenda show it'll be

2387
02:22:16,050 --> 02:22:20,880
in the show notes at 547 dot n a
show notes.com We don't promote

2388
02:22:20,880 --> 02:22:24,090
that enough also no agenda news
network.com is where you can

2389
02:22:24,090 --> 02:22:29,100
always see a running tally of
stories people who who put an

2390
02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:32,730
RSS feed in there I use a lot
most of that is where a lot of

2391
02:22:32,730 --> 02:22:36,120
the stories come from. And and
the show notes are generated

2392
02:22:36,270 --> 02:22:39,750
generated from so make sure you
check that hope I'm cutting out

2393
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:46,440
for some reason here. I have a
clip. That is kind of a PR thing

2394
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:52,470
of a different nature. And this
is the Sharpton cabal now we

2395
02:22:52,470 --> 02:22:56,160
know how Al Sharpton works. In
fact, you you have alerted me to

2396
02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:59,400
this fact. How does this
typically work with Sharpton?

2397
02:22:59,430 --> 02:23:02,610
How does he before he was on TV?
How did he really make his

2398
02:23:02,610 --> 02:23:03,030
money?

2399
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:09,540
This is a form of extortion you
find some sucker company you go

2400
02:23:09,540 --> 02:23:11,610
oh you know you guys aren't
doing things the way we'd like

2401
02:23:11,610 --> 02:23:14,490
to see him done. I think we're
gonna have a big protest over

2402
02:23:14,490 --> 02:23:17,700
here and I've also noticed never
really donated to our operation

2403
02:23:18,660 --> 02:23:22,590
examine exactly and Jesse
Jackson perfected this

2404
02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:25,770
right don't haven't they done
some stuff together as well. The

2405
02:23:25,770 --> 02:23:26,280
two of them

2406
02:23:26,460 --> 02:23:28,380
Yeah, I don't think they like
each other that much because

2407
02:23:28,380 --> 02:23:29,850
they're in competition petition.
Well,

2408
02:23:29,850 --> 02:23:33,810
Al Sharpton has a radio show.
And doesn't everybody these days

2409
02:23:33,810 --> 02:23:38,940
apparently. And so he's going
after a company now you said do

2410
02:23:38,940 --> 02:23:41,220
you use an interesting word you
said what kind of companies

2411
02:23:41,220 --> 02:23:42,150
would they go after?

2412
02:23:43,140 --> 02:23:45,720
You said like idiots No, no, you
said something better some

2413
02:23:45,720 --> 02:23:46,380
suckers

2414
02:23:46,439 --> 02:23:51,959
sucker company here. He's He's
upping his game. RL and he's got

2415
02:23:51,959 --> 02:23:55,529
some some guy on I forgot. I
forget what his name is. But

2416
02:23:57,029 --> 02:23:58,559
here's what they're going after
now.

2417
02:23:59,130 --> 02:24:06,510
They are no blacks on 30% of the
Fortune 500 companies board of

2418
02:24:06,510 --> 02:24:07,260
directors.

2419
02:24:07,290 --> 02:24:11,310
Okay, that's an opening shot but
who's he has to do does he have

2420
02:24:11,310 --> 02:24:12,240
in his sights

2421
02:24:12,270 --> 02:24:15,900
Apple where we spend a lot of
money off.

2422
02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:18,990
Listen to this. This is great.
Apple is gonna go after Apple

2423
02:24:18,990 --> 02:24:22,860
because of course, you know, all
black people have iPhones, which

2424
02:24:22,860 --> 02:24:26,520
is not true. By the way. I'd say
the Android is bigger and better

2425
02:24:26,520 --> 02:24:31,440
in American community. No, I
know. Statistically, I think I

2426
02:24:31,440 --> 02:24:33,480
have the numbers that the
African American community is

2427
02:24:33,480 --> 02:24:38,400
more on Android than apple but
okay, he's taking it and they're

2428
02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:41,190
just going after Apple. It's
unbelievable. You have

2429
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:46,200
new Apple coming out today. No
blacks and board of Apple no

2430
02:24:46,200 --> 02:24:47,520
blacks and board of Apple.

2431
02:24:47,820 --> 02:24:51,990
We buy a ball is Apple stuff.
No, you don't and can't get a

2432
02:24:51,990 --> 02:24:56,610
bite. By we can't get a bite.
Now. Today

2433
02:24:56,670 --> 02:24:58,380
the iPhone comes out

2434
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,590
that is now of course produced
by Apple. And Apple is one of

2435
02:25:04,590 --> 02:25:09,390
those companies. I mean, we do a
tremendous amount of business in

2436
02:25:09,390 --> 02:25:13,590
our community with Apple, yet
we're not on their boards, and

2437
02:25:13,590 --> 02:25:17,970
there is no evidence to do a lot
of advertising, or a lot of

2438
02:25:17,970 --> 02:25:22,770
contracting in our community. Is
that correct? That's correct.

2439
02:25:22,770 --> 02:25:27,630
And I think, you know, it's one
thing to have the measurement

2440
02:25:27,630 --> 02:25:31,200
being or the people who are on
the board. But once a person is

2441
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:33,960
on the board, then it's really
measuring four different things.

2442
02:25:34,620 --> 02:25:37,980
And the key is, what is the
percentage of money that they

2443
02:25:37,980 --> 02:25:41,130
spend in procurement that
they're spending with minority

2444
02:25:41,130 --> 02:25:44,130
owned businesses or African
American firms? The second is

2445
02:25:44,130 --> 02:25:48,180
what percentage of senior
managers or direct reports are

2446
02:25:48,180 --> 02:25:51,540
people of color. The third is
what percentage of money that

2447
02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:56,370
you spend, are you spending with
or directed to African American

2448
02:25:56,370 --> 02:26:01,020
media. And of course, the last
is the board of directors. The

2449
02:26:01,020 --> 02:26:04,890
part that is so shocking is that
Apple, which is probably the

2450
02:26:04,890 --> 02:26:08,700
best known of the company,
basically strikes out against

2451
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:13,110
all four they have no African
American directors of the

2452
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:17,430
company, they do little to no
spending. In African American

2453
02:26:17,430 --> 02:26:21,720
media, they do little to no
spending with in procurement

2454
02:26:22,020 --> 02:26:26,700
with African American firms. And
as you as I quote you all the

2455
02:26:26,700 --> 02:26:30,960
time, the corporate board that
called the board but the

2456
02:26:31,230 --> 02:26:35,850
corporation and executive right
looks like the Himalayas,

2457
02:26:36,090 --> 02:26:38,010
because there are you know, the
wider it gets.

2458
02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:44,610
The higher you go, the wider it
gets. And this is this is such

2459
02:26:44,610 --> 02:26:47,940
an extortion racket because I
don't think it's true. I do not

2460
02:26:47,940 --> 02:26:52,770
think that that apple that
iPhones are big in the African

2461
02:26:52,770 --> 02:26:55,140
American community, the first of
all these things are too

2462
02:26:55,140 --> 02:26:59,070
expensive for any poor
community. Because that's what

2463
02:26:59,070 --> 02:27:01,560
he's saying. That's that's
literally what he's saying. This

2464
02:27:01,560 --> 02:27:02,160
whole thing is

2465
02:27:02,580 --> 02:27:05,700
just started off with you know,
Apple didn't pony up when we

2466
02:27:05,700 --> 02:27:06,960
asked him for some cash.

2467
02:27:07,020 --> 02:27:10,770
That's essentially it. It's it's
really a disgusting racket he's

2468
02:27:10,770 --> 02:27:15,120
got going on. They're using race
using race to extort money or

2469
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:19,380
whatever he wants to get out of
it. Really, really been

2470
02:27:19,380 --> 02:27:23,430
going on this has been going on
for since the 60s, when Jesse

2471
02:27:23,430 --> 02:27:26,310
Jackson got the formula down
Apparently, he's been rebuked a

2472
02:27:26,310 --> 02:27:29,160
few times. There was a story
about what he went into some big

2473
02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:33,270
company with his with his angle
and, and the guy laid down I

2474
02:27:33,330 --> 02:27:36,450
just drew a folder in front of
him. And I think this had that I

2475
02:27:36,450 --> 02:27:38,820
think inside the folder was a
picture of Jesse's, you know,

2476
02:27:38,820 --> 02:27:43,710
his illegitimate son and his and
his mistress, that he had a

2477
02:27:43,740 --> 02:27:46,560
recall. Yeah. And it's because
he apparently opened up to the

2478
02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:50,160
portfolio. The pictures walked
the door. That was the end of

2479
02:27:50,160 --> 02:27:52,260
it. There's no real contract.

2480
02:27:53,310 --> 02:27:56,250
Well, I just I found that to be
interesting, because you had

2481
02:27:56,250 --> 02:27:59,190
taught me about the extortion
racket. And there it is, on the

2482
02:27:59,190 --> 02:28:03,330
day of the iPhone, the new
iPhones. There we have the

2483
02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:05,940
racket going into full swing and
we'll see what happens. We'll

2484
02:28:05,940 --> 02:28:09,660
see if he can garner up some
kind of I don't think so because

2485
02:28:09,660 --> 02:28:11,160
I don't think people care.

2486
02:28:11,789 --> 02:28:14,609
I agree. I think he should have
nothing but trouble unless he

2487
02:28:14,609 --> 02:28:17,429
pickets that's what the that's
where the final result always is

2488
02:28:17,429 --> 02:28:20,699
they bring out a picket line and
they then they get the local

2489
02:28:20,699 --> 02:28:24,389
media to go the TIC tock to the
picket the picket errs, and then

2490
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:27,929
they they got some Whoa, you
know, this is a terrible company

2491
02:28:27,929 --> 02:28:32,579
because they don't they hate
blacks. Yeah. And then that goes

2492
02:28:32,579 --> 02:28:35,759
on the local news, isn't it
causes you know, you know,

2493
02:28:35,759 --> 02:28:38,489
little somebody on the board,
you know, it was a You guys

2494
02:28:38,489 --> 02:28:40,889
gotta get it. What are we going
to do about this? Well, let's

2495
02:28:40,889 --> 02:28:43,229
get into NWA. Here's the deal.
Here's my prediction of putting

2496
02:28:43,229 --> 02:28:48,299
the Red Book. Alright. John
Thompson. John Thompson. John

2497
02:28:48,299 --> 02:28:52,919
Thompson likes IBM or high end a
decade of he's been around a

2498
02:28:52,919 --> 02:28:58,169
lot. Black, and he will be put
on the board.

2499
02:28:58,260 --> 02:29:00,720
Ah, okay. That makes sense.

2500
02:29:00,750 --> 02:29:02,820
This is Oh, by the way, this or
anyone black this list is our

2501
02:29:02,820 --> 02:29:06,630
show is our high tech. Here's an
opportunity right now you get

2502
02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:09,150
into high tech because this
extortion games not going

2503
02:29:09,150 --> 02:29:11,070
anywhere, although I don't see
the new guy coming up, but

2504
02:29:11,070 --> 02:29:15,600
there'll be another guy doing
it. His database has been

2505
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:19,410
updated. So I did get into the
executive branch ranks and then

2506
02:29:19,440 --> 02:29:21,810
start getting on boards. Because
once you get to a couple of

2507
02:29:21,810 --> 02:29:22,650
Board of Directors,

2508
02:29:22,680 --> 02:29:25,140
you're good to go. Yeah, you're
good to go. For sure.

2509
02:29:25,170 --> 02:29:27,030
You don't have to show up at the
meetings.

2510
02:29:27,090 --> 02:29:30,870
You can you can Skype in a great
gig.

2511
02:29:31,500 --> 02:29:32,400
Yeah, great gig.

2512
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:34,950
All right. I got a couple things
I just wanted to mention, which

2513
02:29:34,950 --> 02:29:37,530
I'm working on more coming on
Sunday. First of all this

2514
02:29:37,530 --> 02:29:42,030
misdirection about North Korea
very interesting. Everyone is

2515
02:29:42,030 --> 02:29:45,600
now the or that I'm sorry,
everyone. I say everyone. Your

2516
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:49,590
news media is talking about the
satellite images they have that

2517
02:29:49,590 --> 02:29:53,130
North Korea has started they're
young beyond young beyond

2518
02:29:53,130 --> 02:29:55,890
nuclear reactor and we're all
supposed to be freaking out and

2519
02:29:55,920 --> 02:30:00,930
oh, boy that they're gonna make
the bomb. But the real news is

2520
02:30:00,960 --> 02:30:04,710
being not reported or under
report at best at the case song

2521
02:30:04,740 --> 02:30:09,120
industrial complex, has now
reopened with North and South

2522
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:14,610
Korea cooperating. This is in
the Demilitarized Zone, which is

2523
02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:20,790
a few clicks inside North Korea.
And it was that was close when

2524
02:30:20,910 --> 02:30:24,060
when, you know, under heavy
tension, but now they have

2525
02:30:24,060 --> 02:30:32,250
restarted investment for more
than 100 South Korean firms. Now

2526
02:30:32,250 --> 02:30:36,990
in this industrial park, and
this is getting no coverage. So,

2527
02:30:37,260 --> 02:30:41,160
and I was kind of surprised, I
didn't know that they were

2528
02:30:41,610 --> 02:30:44,280
cooperating, here's north and I
thought they hated each other

2529
02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:47,430
and they're gonna kill each
other and blow and shoot rockets

2530
02:30:47,430 --> 02:30:50,310
and kill. They keep that
narrative alive. And I think

2531
02:30:50,310 --> 02:30:54,090
this is again, part of Dennis
Rodman's mission is he's, again,

2532
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:58,230
please the curry Devorah
Consulting Group, no, we don't

2533
02:30:58,230 --> 02:31:02,760
have facial piercings. That's
our slogan. By the way, let me

2534
02:31:02,760 --> 02:31:06,360
write that down. During Devorah
Consulting Group, no facial

2535
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:10,890
piercings. But we can have them
if you if you think it'll help

2536
02:31:10,890 --> 02:31:18,990
the message. And then I received
an encrypted note from one of

2537
02:31:18,990 --> 02:31:23,670
our producers. And I can pretty
much not tell you anything about

2538
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:27,630
it other than it looks like
Kenya and this end. And I'm kind

2539
02:31:27,630 --> 02:31:32,250
of sad because he sent this to
me on Sunday, and I didn't do

2540
02:31:32,250 --> 02:31:34,050
anything with it, because I was
trying to parse what he was

2541
02:31:34,050 --> 02:31:38,490
trying to tell me. Kenya is
leaving, or it will no longer

2542
02:31:38,490 --> 02:31:41,850
recognize the ICC, the
International Criminal Court.

2543
02:31:42,600 --> 02:31:45,060
And there's been a couple of
colonels who have been killed in

2544
02:31:45,060 --> 02:31:49,290
the past couple of weeks in
Kenya. And he said, Watch Kenya,

2545
02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:53,340
something is going on. I'm not
quite sure what's happening. And

2546
02:31:53,340 --> 02:31:56,730
then all of a sudden this water
discovery pops up. So I'm not

2547
02:31:56,730 --> 02:32:00,330
sure what it is. I'm digging in
as deep as I can. But there's

2548
02:32:00,330 --> 02:32:03,030
something going on with this
water that was discovered in

2549
02:32:03,030 --> 02:32:06,660
Kenya and the International
Criminal Court and it sounds

2550
02:32:06,660 --> 02:32:10,650
like economic hitman something
all over the map here. That is

2551
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:15,990
that is something's up in Kenya.
So we're looking at that and I

2552
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:18,990
guess this is kind of a plea if
you have any more info send it

2553
02:32:18,990 --> 02:32:19,380
off.

2554
02:32:21,660 --> 02:32:23,970
Yeah, we haven't got enough
people in that area. It's in a

2555
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:25,440
weak spot for us. Yeah.

2556
02:32:25,980 --> 02:32:29,250
This guy is good though. He
definitely definitely has some

2557
02:32:29,430 --> 02:32:30,330
some good info.

2558
02:32:31,530 --> 02:32:34,200
Just for your information. I do
have one last clip I want to

2559
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:36,990
play Sure thing, which is the
tapping smartphone. So we're all

2560
02:32:36,990 --> 02:32:39,900
aware of this situation. We knew
it all along because but were

2561
02:32:39,900 --> 02:32:42,870
those cynics and skeptics that
Leo was talking about

2562
02:32:42,900 --> 02:32:46,230
another new leak from Edward
Snowden. The German magazine Der

2563
02:32:46,230 --> 02:32:49,350
Spiegel reports the NSA has
developed the ability to tap

2564
02:32:49,350 --> 02:32:52,770
into all the major smartphone
models including iPhones,

2565
02:32:52,770 --> 02:32:54,600
Androids and blackberries

2566
02:32:55,740 --> 02:32:58,740
array notice he doesn't mention
windows

2567
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:02,010
may be the most secure phone out
there.

2568
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:05,190
It's got a nice camera, that's
for sure is that the

2569
02:33:05,250 --> 02:33:07,920
Nokia whatever it is it in us
still windows? Yeah.

2570
02:33:09,570 --> 02:33:12,570
Right I think well first of all,
I want to thank everyone for

2571
02:33:12,570 --> 02:33:16,410
sticking with us the then the
end sending the good karma we

2572
02:33:16,410 --> 02:33:19,590
had a an almost completely
uninterrupted broadcast John,

2573
02:33:19,590 --> 02:33:27,990
this is first in several weeks,
a month, several weeks. And I

2574
02:33:28,020 --> 02:33:31,830
have one final recording here.
Did you get this from our buddy

2575
02:33:31,830 --> 02:33:33,270
Michael Butler in

2576
02:33:33,539 --> 02:33:39,569
San Francisco? Yeah, this is the
this is the giant voice system

2577
02:33:39,569 --> 02:33:42,269
which is out and out in the
avenues in San Francisco.

2578
02:33:42,359 --> 02:33:45,449
There's one over by the old MVNO
offices but it's not like this

2579
02:33:45,449 --> 02:33:47,489
one because this picture this
thing this is the classic

2580
02:33:47,519 --> 02:33:51,269
it's a classic with the four
horns, the four horns and and

2581
02:33:51,269 --> 02:33:55,619
there's a voice it makes the
noise it has a voice it's it's a

2582
02:33:55,619 --> 02:33:58,409
complete and training system

2583
02:33:58,529 --> 02:34:03,869
and the kicker is that has two
languages and as you'd expect in

2584
02:34:03,869 --> 02:34:08,189
California it would be to tell
me I'm wrong english and spanish

2585
02:34:09,509 --> 02:34:13,049
but apparently not though. This
case let's listen

2586
02:34:22,500 --> 02:34:23,460
I like the warble

2587
02:34:23,460 --> 02:34:24,780
by the way it's a good warble.

2588
02:34:32,010 --> 02:34:38,790
This is a test. This is a test
of the outdoor warning system.

2589
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:48,600
This is only a test you got a
real world game go

2590
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:58,170
so was that Chinese or Japanese?

2591
02:34:58,230 --> 02:35:04,170
That was Chinese and I'm
Wondering why is a woman the

2592
02:35:04,170 --> 02:35:05,250
chair I think the Chinese think

2593
02:35:05,250 --> 02:35:07,560
the Chinese have always have
women doing their Yeah, I

2594
02:35:07,560 --> 02:35:10,440
was thinking that just right now
they always have women do the

2595
02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:11,820
warnings instead of men.

2596
02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:15,120
And how weird is that?

2597
02:35:15,900 --> 02:35:18,540
Yeah that's every Tuesday I
think Butler said

2598
02:35:18,660 --> 02:35:21,120
and you know this is gonna start
coming through your your your

2599
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:25,200
smartphone, which we're now
dubbing slave trackers because

2600
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:28,290
that's what it is just a slave
tracker who needs the mark of

2601
02:35:28,290 --> 02:35:28,800
the beast when

2602
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:31,500
you have the iPhone? is the mark
of the beast.

2603
02:35:31,530 --> 02:35:42,720
I can't wait for the iPhone 666
Yeah, that's what it is. pot of

2604
02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:46,860
money. Thank you very much for
showing up once again. Thank

2605
02:35:46,860 --> 02:35:50,820
you. If you supported the
program, our executive producer,

2606
02:35:50,910 --> 02:35:54,270
Associate Executive Producers
everyone else who checked in and

2607
02:35:54,300 --> 02:35:58,020
Sunday we will bring you the
final tally to find out if we

2608
02:35:58,380 --> 02:36:05,550
bid a Jew to the Swaziland of
karma. Hey, John, done. Fist

2609
02:36:05,550 --> 02:36:12,930
bump. Good one. Coming to you
from the capital of the drone

2610
02:36:12,930 --> 02:36:17,400
Star state here in Austin,
Texas. And morning, everybody.

2611
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:18,150
I'm Adam curry

2612
02:36:18,480 --> 02:36:21,450
in from Northern Silicon Valley,
plain and simple. I'm John C.

2613
02:36:21,450 --> 02:36:22,080
Dvorak. We'll be

2614
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:26,190
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