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We can't afford to do this show.
Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday
August 22 2013 Time to get my

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nation media assassination
episode five. This is no agenda

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I'm going Chelsea here in the
traverse heights hideout capital

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the drone Star State Austin,
Texas in the morning everybody.

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I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I'm not going Chelsea I'm

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John C.

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Skill pulled out what does the C
stand for? What are you telling

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me here?

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stepped all over my name.

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I'm John C. WMD. She John C.
Dvorak where the C stands for

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Chelsea.

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It stands for

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wow, I get to play it hold on a
second. Where is it?

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Holy moly, it was this. I have
seen a lot in my lifetime. When

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it comes to distracting the
conversation away from what's

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really going on, but this one
was good.

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It was good. I wondering. Do we
have any real verification?

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Yes, we do. In fact, I have the
today's show.

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Where oh, there it is. We got a
wait.

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But you gotta listen to this.
This is the today's show with

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severe What's your name is
Savannah. I've never seen her

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before. Is this? Yeah, Savannah

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Guthrie? Yeah, she's

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hot.

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She's funny, because if you see
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they have that show. By the way.
Today's show is probably one of

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the best lit shows. Yeah,
morning shows. is totally

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perfect perfectly. She has blown
out beautifully. She looks 10

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times better than she actually
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You heard it here first.

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She's pretty anyway, but I'm
just saying she looks like she's

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jaw dropping on that show. Oh,

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totally. So she's with the with
Bradley Manning's lawyer. And

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the the mind meld that takes
place in this clip which which

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and so there's a couple. So you
just said like two minutes of

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preamble which I caught off most
of and then all of a sudden the

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Switch comes, but pay attention
to that I left like, you know,

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30 seconds in of talking about,
you know, Mr. Manning him he

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hears everything and then and
then all of a sudden we're going

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to switch everything. It's it's
it's a mind meld? And my answer

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would be yes, he would.

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Do you think in any way he was
used or persuaded or manipulated

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by WikiLeaks and Assange, I
asked you that because during

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this trial, particularly in the
sentencing phase, you portrayed

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him as somebody under extreme
duress psychologically damaged

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dealing with a host of issues.
Do you have any concerns about

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that?

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By the way? This Savannah, is
she a journalist? Or is she a

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prompt a reader because she's
good? I like how she gets away

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with that. You check it out, you
know, the, the stress that he

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was under was mostly to give
context to what was going on at

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the time. It was never an excuse
for his actions because that was

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not what drove his actions. What
drove his actions was a strong

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moral compass. WikiLeaks had
nothing to do with bringing

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information out of him. He gave
information to WikiLeaks. You

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mentioned the moral compass. On
the other hand, if he wanted to

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expose wrongdoing, how does he
justify the indiscriminate mass

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leak of 750,000 documents that
he could not possibly have read

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or known? What was in them?

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She's really good. John, what is
what is her background? She had

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J school graduates in Aussie.
She's from Australia.

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Well, yeah, but she moved to
Tucson when she was three, but

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anyway, graduated high school.
She's a journalist as she went

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to Columbia, Missouri five, but
she's in a sorority, about a few

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years ago. She was running out
she shouldn't NBC she's always

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wanted. She's a TV girl. She
started KK VOA went to WRC TV,

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Washington, she got into
Washington, DC picked up some

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big stories to cover the
anthrax. Oh, well, she says

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she's a talking head.

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She's good. She's good.

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She's good as a national trial
correspondent for cord TV, she's

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been in the business but she's
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How did we overlook her? How can
we didn't snap her up for me

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view we must have been. You look
at okay, so we're hearing he him

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his his his his And now watch it
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basically by itself and you
would say, okay, he could read

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one document can't read 700,000
documents, but these documents

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are pretty much the same thing.
And so you can get through a lot

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of documents, realizing that
there's not going to be harmful

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information in these documents,
and there wasn't

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let's talk about Mr. Manning
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we've had all this his he, Mr.
Manning, he has

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provided a statement that he
wants us to read and this is

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part of it. As I transition into
this next phase of my life. I

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want everyone to know the real
me. I am Chelsea Manning, I am a

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female, given the way that I
feel and have felt since

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childhood. I want to begin
hormone therapy as soon as

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possible. I also request that
Starting today, you refer to me

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by my new name and use the
feminine pronoun. Why did she

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she has this moment.

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And this goes on for three
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she she heard it's like a
Chelsea didn't want to listen to

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him. He's like writing. Right in
Chelsea? Just seconds ago, it

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was all Mr. Manning have this be
something that oh, that

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overshadows the case, wanted to
wait until the case was done to

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move forward to the next stage
of her life. She wants

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hormone therapy Fort Leavenworth
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like so. Okay, so let me just
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say certainly preface this with
I know several trans

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transgendered people, I totally
understand what it what it must

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be like to, you know, be born in
a in something that doesn't fit

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and you want to change. And I'm
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this, what's happening here,
where you know, we got this was

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the moment you can mark it
7:53am. And it was just a state

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of mind. We all decided that
Bradley is now Chelsea. And it

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was I think that was phenomenal.
But thinking of most people in

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America who watched this
television program, who are

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going to be in the upper demo.
50 Plus, I would say I think if

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you really look at the numbers,
this they won't work in their

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brain. So they're they're so
confused about this that you

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forget what he was convicted
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Yeah, well, I think there's
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which is a little crack potty.
Okay. I'm sorry. I hate to

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taste.

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Really some good thing walking
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But it seems to me as though
this is a way to subvert the

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political career of Chelsea
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Really? Do you think I because I
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but I'm like you

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thought about it momentarily,
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sense that

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we don't know if this is
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just a statement that you know,
a piece of paper. And they have

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they actually have the paper on
screen. I love it when they do

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that. It's like Bradley Manning
letterhead. What? Yeah, it's

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Brett Riley Manning letterhead.
Yeah, I know. I was like the

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graphics department whip this
up, didn't they? I mean, I don't

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do you have letterhead? Do you
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laying around somewhere? Do you

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have some old letterhead but I
never use it because I can with

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it with the printers and the
email and the Microsoft document

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maker and all the rest of it.
You can create any letterhead,

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you wanted to drop them a hat.
So I have a bunch of them that I

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will use if I needed one. I'll
put one up

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for this, but I love it when
they do that. And they have like

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a printed letter like Bradley
Manning couldn't send an email.

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I'm sorry, Chelsea, he decided
that no, I'm gonna I'm gonna get

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my letterhead and was positioned
in the middle, you know? Just

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like yeah, like, like lefties.

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Exactly. So the whole thing to
me, it's like, wow, this is and

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I think somewhere it relates to,
you know, it's gonna come back

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somewhere, you watch it and be
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Bradley Manning and then, you
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You know, it's the gay Cabal.
There's all kinds of stuff

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that's going

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to happen with this cabal is
getting on my nerves in this

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story, because of the owners in
Cooper, and then he has the

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Brazilian kid on there. The
whole thing is getting a little

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like wood is a little suspicious
of this whole thing. It's very

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fishy.

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Alright, so. So you think that
this is in some ways a

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subverting Chelsea Clinton?
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you have to remember that the
Delete itself was subverting

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Hillary. A timing. Targeted
nice, thanks. was Hillary.

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Wow. Yes, you're right. It was
all State Department cables.

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You're right.

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So the second thing would be so
obviously, this is a frontal

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attack on the Clinton family.
Wow. And then just like,

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orchestrated by God knows who
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why. I wish I could have been a
part of that meeting, though.

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Oh, we gotta do this. I got a
bill a bill. I got a great idea.

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Was that Ted? We're gonna have
changes sex. Yeah, we're bashing

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you put it through all this
trouble. He's got 35 years in

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jail, and he's you're gonna make
him change his sex? Yeah.

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What Wait, wait, I got an idea.
Let's make him call himself

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Chelsea. Ah,

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keep that bitch Hillary from
running. So play the 35 years

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clip. I thought this was kind of
an interesting revelation. I

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didn't realize you win the game
35 years because we've just been

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so used to the kind of crap that
goes on with this administration

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and the one before that we don't
think much about this, but let's

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put some things in perspective.
By playing the 35 years clip,

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which has been covering the
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Times, Charlie 35 years
sentence, seven years, perhaps

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before he gets the chance to be
paroled? Is that considered a

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tough outcome?

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It is a tough outcome. It is the
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handed down in the United
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leak of government secrets to
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the public.

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So we're also talking about a
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dishonorable discharge does that
add to this thing as well?

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dishonorable discharge, it was
expected and it's sort of a

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minor thing. That's the 35 year
prison sentence. That's the the

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important factor, a staggering
amount of time compared to other

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sentences that have been handed
down to convicted leakers,

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what what comparable sentences
can you can you draw the link to

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here

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go over you have to remember
that there have been very few

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convictions of people for
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consumption at all in this
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happened was in 1985, or 84,
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sentenced to two years and it
was so rare that President

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Clinton later pardoned him
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that this one guy had been
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happens all the time. under this
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seen as it's been well
documented, a flurry, a

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crackdown on leaking, there been
a few cases, one resulted in a

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sentence of one year probation
and community service. One set

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resulted in 20 months in prison
one resulted in 30 months in

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prison. And so 35 years is a
categorical difference.

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it's just not nobody's paid
attention to this. Yeah, this

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is this is really an outrageous
sentence is what you're saying

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compared to everything else
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for any leaking of classified
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consumption. And he makes it
clear in there. Now there was

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this wasn't this. In fact, Brett
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couple of guys, apparently, and
I can't get you the exact

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numbers of guys who spied for
the Russians, and they were true

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traders. They weren't really
making anything for public

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consumption. They were spying as
actual spies. And they didn't

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get this kind of sense. This is
this is a very,

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this is this is this has to be
there's gotta be something by

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all, messaging propaganda. It
seems that you know, now, you

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know, every journalist as we
know, you know, there's there is

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often no difference between the
intelligence services in any

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country and their news
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not just print, but primarily
print. It seems like and we just

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have a whole bunch of spies all,
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each other and yelling back and
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nothing is what it seems in this
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And the other thing to note is
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annul it. Analysis, I'm sorry,
this particular case is, and

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you'll see the code word used a
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effect feeling. Yeah, you've
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to the word of the use of the
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and I see it still all the time.

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Yeah, it's a code word. But
chilling effect is what this

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this was to have a chilling
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what but if you look at just
what you've now said, how every

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media is long gone. I mean, it's
sold out forever. How's it

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having a chilling effect on the
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out?

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Well, so this is something that
I picked up on, I've got a

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second. Let me bring it up here.
So here's Glenn Greenwald. And

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this I think, is the main point
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who is a journalist, what is
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the line and perhaps, John, this
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media shield law so that we can
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have, quote unquote, protection

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licenses?

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Yeah. Why is this not working?
Hello. That's weird. Let me try

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it again. This is new. Glenn.
Was he carrying classified

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material with?

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Well, not going to talk about
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that's our work product is
journalists. Remember, both

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Laura and I are working with the
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I got my work product right
here. What I would say is every

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single newsroom in the United
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organization in the world has
classified information reporting

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on what governments do in the
secret is what journalism is

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about. So if you want to support
the idea that states can just go

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and confiscate from journalists
classified information, you

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should be demanding that your
government goes physically into

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newsrooms and sees whatever
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All of the best reporting over
the last 40 years involves

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journalists having class spied
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Papers, the Bush torture site,
CIA black sites, the illegal

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warrantless eavesdropping
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investigative journalism is. And
if you want to start

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criminalizing that that means
that you're asking as a citizen

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to be kept ignorant and to allow
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they're doing behind a wall of
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accountability, or transparency
journalism is not a crime, and

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it is not terrorism. And I find
this interesting this

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conversation because to me, with
this statement, and with what

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happened here, and I, I love how
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media has classified David,
what's his name? Maron, what's

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his name Marine, Miranda,
Miranda, whatever,

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as you asked me, and then you
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But everyone's classifying as
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this is a very,

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this is all calls them his
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They're not as far as I know,
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They're not officially married,
even though they do live in

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Brazil, where gay marriage is
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Now, it's officially legal,
according to the book of

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knowledge, but you know, this
whole, like, he's my partner

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thing. There's a reason for
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thing. I would say to you, some
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their partner. But you know,
you're my partner, you know,

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it's like, it's not like, hey,
oh, no, but you know, it's like,

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you know, because I'm a cop. So
just because you're my partner.

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Now, you're a cop, you know, it
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And, you know, what is the point
of David Miranda go carrying

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stuff, you know, what is the
point? Is it the only one I

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missed in the story? He had
microfiche, his microfilm you

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know, it's like what is this?
This whole thing makes no sense

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you can you can email stuff you
can go over some research you

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can you can there's a million
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to get to do this. Let's go over
just the basics of of this

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entire I think this whole thing
is a complete ruse. It's a ruse.

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It's beyond a ruse. It was a
setup. And it was done by Glenn

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Greenwald. And let me say,
here's the reasons why. Why was

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he on that particular flying you
can fly directly? Well, you

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can't fly directly as a matter
of fact, in fact, you can not

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only fly directly but if you get
to Frankfort, you can fly

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directly under Brazilian carrier
but let's just go over the

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flights he did that he had
options to take this flight. Why

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would then you have to ask
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he go to Heathrow so I booked
some flights for the Sunday for

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this upcoming Sunday which is
the same as the you know, the

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same as last Sunday I looked at
the flights and what was

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available, the best deal to Rio
from that, by the way the 76

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flights. The best deal is
through Liz been on on tap. It's

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$1,124 that take it's about 19
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And we got to presume the
guardian or cheapskates, so And

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since they are apparently

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journalistic operation, it's a
cheapskate operation. They all

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are so 1124 That's your that's
your deal. The shortest is

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through Amsterdam. It's a short
flight. It's only 1355. And it's

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$1,921. That's a lot. That's a
lot extra though. A lot more.

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Yes. And then if you the first
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Heathrow, why would you go
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the you know, the British
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intelligence are watching, but
you Okay, we're gonna go through

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Heathrow. Why don't you take the
the $2,600 flight, which is a 17

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hour flight. Instead, you choose
a flight that is $2,900. It's as

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long as the flight through
Lisbon. It's just about 19 hours

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really long flight, which is the
cheapest and Lisbon is the

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cheapest option, this visit
cheapest This is 2900 bucks. And

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to top it off to make you wonder
what's the deal because of

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course, the key was that this
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when you had a shift change, and
everything was perfectly set up

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to get stopped. But here's the
question I asked you you know

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how you fly around with you and
with was just the options I gave

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you right there? Would you take
this really expensive flight

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takes just as long as the
cheapest flight and you have to

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be at the airport you have to be
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Let me say something else. So
besides just the logistics and

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the cost of it, anybody who
knows if you're in journalism

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and if you eat oh let's say if
you're sending your partner

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along who's carrying
journalistic What did you call

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it?

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Nothing No,

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no a call it notes are tools of
the trade whatever is work

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product is journalistic work
product. You don't send someone

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there's no need to send someone
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country which is the UK. So if
you go from Berlin to Portugal

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to Amsterdam, to any other
country in Europe, you don't

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have to go through passport
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UK that I think this will like
maybe Sweden or something But

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this is the Oh and you know,
anyone who's been to London,

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unless you're going for the duty
free at the airport, the process

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of going through UK customs is
almost as bad as the United

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States except they're the guys
are all Indian with big turbans

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on their heads. At least we have
like uniforms and guns, you

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know, it makes you kind of makes
you feel like something special

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is happening when you're being
let in. But there it's like when

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you're public. It's horrible. It
is it is an atrocious

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experience. There's no reason
anyone would even want.

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And I want to make I want to re
emphasize this flight left at

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7am. If you and in Berlin, yeah,
who is going to I don't like I

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mean, if you're in a
metropolitan area like this,

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okay. You have to be at the
airport at five you have to get

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up at four in the morning.

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I we get it. You're absolutely
right. This makes no sense.

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Unless you specifically want to
be caught. Right. Okay. So what

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is your conclusion then? Why?
Why did

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he didn't have anything on this
was another Glenn Greenwald, the

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branding exercise? Yeah,
seriously, he got on some shows

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again. Now he got on Anderson
Cooper, and it made a big stink.

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I think the British were
completely taken in by it. And I

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think the reason for keeping him
for nine hours was, I think the

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reason you do that in this case,
because you know, he had thumb

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drives, he probably I'm assuming
they hope to get into take a

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crap, just in case he had a
thumb drive off his butt. And

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they could get it out of the
shit. And so they probably

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probably didn't take a crap and
they probably fish through his

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dunk, dunk, and they got
embarrassed by this. So Glenn

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Greenwald had a big laugh on
that, that was never discussed.

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Hey, hey, hey, baby. It was the
fun. And so this whole thing was

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a was a, an incredible, and then
they also got to make the point

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that schedule seven, which is
the terrorist thing. You can't

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stop anybody if they if you
immediately. In fact, apparently

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the British oversight guy is
going to look into this. You

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can't stop and harass some guy.

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No, no, no, no, no, I've read
the legislation. This is not

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true. This is not true. Even if
you have materials that could be

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deemed

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a danger. That's what Jeff Tobin
says do and I have that clip.

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But it's in it's in the it's in
the section seven I read it it

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says it right there. So this is
there's no there's no dispute.

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And by the way, the same thing
happens in America only. We

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don't have a limit of nine hours
in America. We can keep you for

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weeks for days, whatever. And
yeah, here's the stuff is you

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have no protection over your
stuff. New

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this does bring out the point
which it may be Greenwald wanted

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to do with this is bullcrap. I
mean, this reminds me of the

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people who have been, you know,
TSA is supposedly when it was

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put in place was to look for
terrorists implement.

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So please, please don't make it.
There's a difference between TSA

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and CPB. So you have the border
Customs and Border Protection

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Agency

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know what I know. But that's not
my point. I was saying the TSA

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was put in place to do a certain
job, and they still will bust

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somebody for marijuana,

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or whatever. Absolutely. They
just busted out their job.

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But they do it anyway. And
that's it. I still think that

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this is something of a stretch.
I mean, Miranda himself. In

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fact, they have the clip says
that not once. Did they even ask

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him anything about terrorism?
This whole eight hours play them

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around on Cooper? And I'll say
again, it doesn't matter what I

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was carrying everything. And
David British authorities say

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that they detained you under
it's called schedule seven of

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the UK Terrorism Act, which
allows them to question someone

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to determine if there they are
or have been and I quote,

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concern to the Commission
preparation or invest or

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instigation of acts of
terrorism. Did they actually ask

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you anything about terrorism?

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Now, they didn't ask me anything
about terrorism and not not one

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question about it. And I think
it's really weird because I was

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in for like, eight hours without
talking to anybody outside and

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like they're just like me, I
have to ask them, do I have to

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answer this? And they asked me
just telling me like if you

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don't answer this, you're gonna
go to jail.

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Yeah, hold on, John. This is
this is like a red herring. This

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is this

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will this is what I'm telling
you from the beginning is the

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whole thing.

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I just I just wondering,

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it was point

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I kind of just want to make this
one point that the law is of

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course nonsensical. We have the
same here but they have every

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single right to ask him whatever
they want in any fashion. It

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doesn't have to be just about
terrorism. And the fact that you

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have actual journalist saying
This means they are complicit in

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the scam because they know you
can read it's in plain English

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that this is permissible.

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The old First Sight guy who
appeared on BBC Two, who is the

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guy who looks at these cases
said, and I have to get a clip

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for the Sunday show and I can do
it said specifically that if you

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can determine this person is not
involved with terrorism, you

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don't keep them for nine hours
versus he says of 60,000 people

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that were stopped on

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this, this is a dumb argument.
They can do whatever they want.

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We're in a police state
worldwide.

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This guy's just repeating what
this guy said. I'm arguing

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he then he's in some other
intelligence agency, he's just

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fueling the fire. Maybe he just
wants to write a book, who knows

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this? It's ridiculous. That part
of the conversation is stupid,

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really mad and mad at that?

447
00:25:40,919 --> 00:25:44,249
I just telling you that I think
this whole thing was rigged by

448
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:47,879
Greenwald to begin with. All
right. And I think and I think

449
00:25:47,879 --> 00:25:51,899
the real kicker here is that
Greenwald, actually this guy

450
00:25:51,899 --> 00:25:55,019
probably doesn't appreciate
this, was hoping he'd get thrown

451
00:25:55,019 --> 00:25:59,789
in jail. Because he apparently
threatened him with jail

452
00:25:59,789 --> 00:26:02,549
numerous times. Yeah. Because
you wouldn't answer questions of

453
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:03,839
why do you bring in witnesses?
What?

454
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,270
Why don't you just divorce the
guy? Wouldn't it be easier just

455
00:26:06,270 --> 00:26:08,370
kick him out? Like, dude, I'm
tired of you know.

456
00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:14,040
It's a way to divorce the guy
with publicity. But that would

457
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,210
be my boy, my husband's and J
partner, my partner, my partner

458
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:20,910
says, Yo, can you easily get on
the show? Specifically, he

459
00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:22,140
called him his husband. Oh,
really?

460
00:26:22,170 --> 00:26:24,900
Okay. I thought they were not
married. I could be wrong.

461
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,710
Right? Maybe

462
00:26:25,710 --> 00:26:28,380
they're not. But he called
Greenwald on the show that you

463
00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:31,830
recorded that clip from
specifically said, my husband.

464
00:26:31,860 --> 00:26:34,920
So so so but here's the
interesting thing that happened,

465
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:40,260
then we have the guardian. And
we have this, the spy who runs

466
00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:42,720
the Guardian, and doesn't that
guy look like a British spy with

467
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,820
his moptop hair, you've seen the
Edit looks like a spy. And so

468
00:26:48,090 --> 00:26:51,360
you all of a sudden, he's like,
we're going to destroy this

469
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,970
laptop. And they published a
picture of like, half a

470
00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:56,700
motherboard, and you're not
there's not even a drive in the

471
00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:01,050
picture. And then they have this
big hoo ha about how they have

472
00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:03,780
to, you know, they have to do
this even though they have

473
00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:07,530
copies everywhere. The whole
thing. It's, I mean, it's like,

474
00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:10,770
you know, we had spy versus spy
in Mad Magazine. Except now

475
00:27:10,770 --> 00:27:13,290
there's, there's a black spy, a
white spy, but there's a red

476
00:27:13,290 --> 00:27:16,980
one. There's a yellow one.
That's, I think the the all

477
00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:21,780
countries now have gotten
confused as to who's doing what,

478
00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:25,290
and they're just running around
trying to get on TV.

479
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:30,390
Well, they're doing a pretty
good job of getting on TV.

480
00:27:30,780 --> 00:27:33,030
Now. Although no one no one, you
know, why

481
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:38,340
bother you? Does it bother you
that? That the meal you have spy

482
00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:45,570
DOM is such that I'd say a good
80 to 90% of them are

483
00:27:45,570 --> 00:27:50,970
identifiable. I mean, just like
you said with that guy. No girls

484
00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:53,580
that show with these women who
show up on the various

485
00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:56,400
especially on Fox, the ones who
come in to the only brunettes

486
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,850
and the operation and they all
look like spooks.

487
00:28:00,870 --> 00:28:04,350
Well, you know what I think I
will say this about the

488
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:07,890
intelligence services. I liked
their hiring policies, because

489
00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:11,010
most of these girls that kind of
hot, you know, this, like they

490
00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:12,000
all have something going

491
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,060
for that Valerie plan was
looking good. Yeah, no, no, but

492
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:17,460
I think that this, this is
something that started a long

493
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:20,190
time ago, and said, Look, you
know, I think we should get good

494
00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:24,900
looking women to be surprised.
And most of them are in the US,

495
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:25,140
if

496
00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:28,230
you remember the story, which
we've got to remind people to

497
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:30,990
read the newest or newer
listeners, which is hit

498
00:28:31,290 --> 00:28:38,340
Confessions of an economic
hitman. He was solicited by one

499
00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:42,960
of these women exam and
essentially sexed up to become,

500
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:45,600
you know, this this character in
the book. So the

501
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,090
easiest way, I mean, look at it,
that's that's how they get them

502
00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:53,100
all. That's how you bring down
world leaders, at least for some

503
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,730
reason. That's how it's done.
Now, I'm not sure how that ever

504
00:28:56,730 --> 00:29:01,110
got to be a fireable offense or,
like so shocking. That used to

505
00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:05,700
be the norm in certainly in
France and in other countries,

506
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,550
like, he has a mistress or
whatever. And it wasn't a big

507
00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:11,370
deal. And now it's like, Ah, so
shocking. It's

508
00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:14,430
just never been a good one. It's
never been accepted in the

509
00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:15,390
United States. No,

510
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:16,620
no, but why?

511
00:29:17,790 --> 00:29:22,290
Well, everyone would trace it to
our Puritan upbringings, a

512
00:29:22,290 --> 00:29:26,670
heritage of the country. And
yeah, you had to, I mean, during

513
00:29:26,670 --> 00:29:31,290
the Jeffersonian period, I mean,
there's plenty of weirdness

514
00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:35,370
going on, but I don't know. Just
it's just not it's not religious

515
00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:36,360
or something. I have no idea.

516
00:29:36,390 --> 00:29:38,790
Here's a question for you, John,
in all of this, and then we have

517
00:29:38,790 --> 00:29:42,990
all these revelations about and
in fact, the the Wall Street

518
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:46,410
Journal, they kind of did an end
around and now we're back to

519
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:50,370
stellar wind and all these all
these things have been sucking

520
00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:55,380
off the entire fiber optic Data
Pipe and 75% of the internet is

521
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:59,580
now sucked up by the NSA. So we
have all of these revelations

522
00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:04,320
what There now at this very
moment is anonymous. Where's the

523
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,610
big action? Where's all the
outrage from? Where are the Guy

524
00:30:08,610 --> 00:30:12,540
Fawkes mask videos? Nowhere

525
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:17,040
will a lot of people believe is
because the anonymous guy, there

526
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,960
is an anonymous guy and he's in
jail.

527
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,930
Neva where's the movement
anonymous?

528
00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:25,530
Apparently there was it looks
pretty weak now that you

529
00:30:25,530 --> 00:30:27,720
mentioned because if one guy
goes to jail, and the next thing

530
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,800
I know there's nothing going on.

531
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:33,690
Exactly. Exactly. The but not
just one guy goes to jail.

532
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:37,260
Anonymous what? You know, they
they did another like

533
00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,650
Scientology attack just a couple
of weeks ago. But when it comes

534
00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:44,010
to the real deal to the real
thing, where is it?

535
00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:48,930
Well, he was upfront all along.

536
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:59,100
It's quite possible. Regardless,
we have good news, the United

537
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,980
States government and we laughed
about this when the President

538
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:07,290
said he was going to build a
website about the intelligence

539
00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:08,910
community's transparency.

540
00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:12,480
He believes intelligence
community supposed to have

541
00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:14,550
transparency when the White
House doesn't,

542
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,570
but forget that they built their
website on Tumblr.

543
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:20,610
Did you see this thing? No,
what's the name of it?

544
00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:25,620
And I thought it was a hoax.
It's I see on the record, India

545
00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:29,700
Charlie on the
record.tumblr.com. And I'm like

546
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:32,250
the first one like now this is
this is this is a joke, but

547
00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:35,610
they've literally they've built
their website, the transparency

548
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:40,890
website on Tumblr. i Are you
kidding me?

549
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,380
This looks like a joke, but it's
not declassified. I thought it

550
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:50,820
was declassified documents
relating to Section 702 of FISA.

551
00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:53,730
Here's what I had to go because
I looked for press releases on

552
00:31:53,730 --> 00:31:57,060
whitehouse.gov couldn't find it.
And then someone said no, the

553
00:31:57,060 --> 00:32:02,730
Twitter account and SC press at
NSC press. They tweeted it and

554
00:32:02,730 --> 00:32:05,700
I'm like, Yeah, so what? And
then, you know, it turns out

555
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:08,940
that's a verified account. And
then at White House had

556
00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:11,940
retweeted it. This is the real
deal. And they've got like

557
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:14,280
little little locks that are

558
00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:16,650
cost $8 million. So no,

559
00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:19,470
apparently I don't know what the
deal is. But it's just like this

560
00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:22,620
is this is your transparency
website on Tumblr.

561
00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:26,940
Maybe they have stock in Yahoo
or some who owns Tumblr, who

562
00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:29,460
owns Tumblr, I think. Yeah,
yeah. Who just bought it? Yeah.

563
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,820
Who raised me to uh, well, when
you're done with this, I got it.

564
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:33,720
Well, Yahoo, by the

565
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,310
way, who, who apparently now
have surpassed Google in

566
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:44,010
traffic. So you know, now of
course we have Google is already

567
00:32:44,010 --> 00:32:47,790
40% of the internet's traffic.
Apparently, Yahoo is the other

568
00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:51,120
60% So there's nothing else
except Yahoo and Google?

569
00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:53,610
Yeah. So well, this is by the
way that's it's changed the

570
00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:58,860
subject completely extremely bad
news for us. The we've had we

571
00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:03,570
had a we got some note from a
guy who sent it to you through

572
00:33:03,570 --> 00:33:04,170
the or

573
00:33:05,490 --> 00:33:08,910
Oh, through the big message.
Yeah, we have an insider at

574
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:15,600
MailChimp, MailChimp is is a
very largely used program or

575
00:33:15,630 --> 00:33:20,430
system for for the mailing lists
for the marketing email. But

576
00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:22,080
also for the note in the
newsletter,

577
00:33:22,110 --> 00:33:28,560
the entire system is somehow
under attack. I think the untold

578
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,900
story with that message besides
the fact that he was sent it to

579
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:34,500
you, it says he's a secret guy
in the company, which is that

580
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,020
they help you anyway. I mean,
I've sent notes in this URL, you

581
00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:39,930
should do this and that he's not
telling me anything. We don't We

582
00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:43,110
can't find out already. He sends
it to you instead of to me,

583
00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:47,250
everyone knows I do the mailing
list. And I have the accounting

584
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,620
he would know that because it's
got my email address. We are

585
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:57,510
losing our ass on these mailings
because our open rate has

586
00:33:57,510 --> 00:34:02,190
dropped from down to no use to
average about 49 to 55% which is

587
00:34:02,190 --> 00:34:05,010
way above industry average
average as it's way above

588
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:08,550
industry average but but for
newsletters is not really it's

589
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:10,770
you know, you really want to get
a pretty high open rate because

590
00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:13,350
it's a newsletter, people
subscribe to it. They

591
00:34:13,350 --> 00:34:15,810
volunteered to get it or they
get it because they donate and

592
00:34:15,810 --> 00:34:21,900
then they can kill it. We it
dropped to 27% because of the of

593
00:34:21,930 --> 00:34:25,740
Google having this extreme this
new promotions tab, which by the

594
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:27,990
way, you can go into your
settings and turn all those tabs

595
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:30,330
off. You can just yeah, if you
just turn the tide. Nobody knows

596
00:34:30,330 --> 00:34:32,340
that they can't most people
can't figure anything out. So

597
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:36,900
that that goes on the mailing
that went out for last for this

598
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:40,680
show, which was sent out on
Wednesday 1130 Pacific time.

599
00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:43,650
Never arrived in the Yahoo box.

600
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,890
Oh, really not in the Yahoo box
at all.

601
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,130
It didn't show up and it didn't
show up in Yahoo spam spam.

602
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,270
Yahoo has a big spam box that
you can look at. But Google

603
00:34:54,270 --> 00:34:57,240
doesn't even do that. They just
just everything just disappears.

604
00:34:57,420 --> 00:35:00,480
This big spam box known as
Marissa Meyer. Hey, yo.

605
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:05,820
So anyway, so the so there is a
something, the reason I think we

606
00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:08,670
got that note is something fishy
is going on. Hey, wait a

607
00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:11,580
minute, John, are you telling me
you're tracking people?

608
00:35:13,799 --> 00:35:14,669
Who am I tracking?

609
00:35:14,699 --> 00:35:17,219
You're tracking what they're
doing with our newsletters?

610
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:20,519
Yes, I'm tracking these
companies. Because you have to

611
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:24,569
send out these dummy dummy
emails to different boxes and

612
00:35:24,569 --> 00:35:27,599
see what happens. So Yahoo
doesn't show up at all, Google

613
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,119
gets thrown into the promotions
box. And people have complained

614
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:34,499
to me that they've tried to move
the Yeah. Okay, so I'm supposed

615
00:35:34,499 --> 00:35:36,119
to build a drag and drop, it
doesn't work.

616
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,640
Now, I've tried that too. And
people say that, you know,

617
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,460
it'll, it'll pop up a message
saying, Do you want to always,

618
00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:44,760
you know, bypass the promotions
tab or something like that I

619
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,420
tried it didn't, I didn't get
that message. I didn't get the

620
00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:52,350
message. And and you can remove
the promo, you can actually

621
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:54,450
remove the promotions tab. But
there's another one, two,

622
00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:57,510
there's like the social tab or
whatever, the social network.

623
00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:00,300
The whole point is, it's very,
very subtle. What is going on

624
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:05,190
here. But it is just a tip of
the iceberg. Really, I mean,

625
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:07,860
people still don't understand
that when they look at, you

626
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:10,950
know, Facebook, and I'm sure
Twitter's if they're not already

627
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:14,220
they will be doing it, that
you're not seeing everything

628
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:17,310
from your friends, you're seeing
whatever algorithm Facebook

629
00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:20,940
feels you should see from your,
like, people use Facebook, like,

630
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:23,400
Hey, I haven't heard from so.
And so I haven't seen anything

631
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:26,940
on my timeline? Well, no,
because you're not being shown

632
00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:31,170
anymore. So that is you're open
to manipulation. And it's not

633
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:34,080
really nefarious other than to
sell you crap one way or the

634
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,470
other.

635
00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:39,150
So anyway, it's a disaster for
us, I think you're gonna see a

636
00:36:39,150 --> 00:36:41,940
real decrease in donations,
because the newsletter reminds

637
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:44,010
people to watch the show, and
also reminds people to

638
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,280
contribute to the show. So we're
getting we're getting slammed by

639
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,090
both these services. And I think
about, I think at least 60% of

640
00:36:51,090 --> 00:36:56,040
our users use Gmail. And I think
the rest of them probably use

641
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,360
Yahoo, we only had one person
come in as an executive producer

642
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,290
for the today's show. And that
came through the mail, we got

643
00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,270
absolutely nothing through
email.

644
00:37:06,330 --> 00:37:11,820
And it has to be we have to
can't understate really, or

645
00:37:11,820 --> 00:37:15,180
overstate how important these
young people are. If I don't

646
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:19,440
fire the the bat signal as an
example, people miss the show to

647
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,320
like, oh, man, I didn't get the
bad signal. And I forgotten you

648
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,030
know, I missed the show. Because
you know, people's lives are

649
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:27,360
busy. They're not contrary to
what I would like. They're not

650
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,150
thinking about the show all the
time. And so people forget that

651
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:32,550
we have these these newsletters,
and you know, we have some

652
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:34,800
information about what's
upcoming on the show. And it's

653
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,680
really a reminder that hey, you
know, we're here, please check

654
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,720
us out, and, and support the
work as well. And if you're not

655
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,790
receiving it, people just
forget, they go on with their

656
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:46,170
lives and other things happen.

657
00:37:47,370 --> 00:37:49,890
These things are being thrown
away by the server. Let me tell

658
00:37:49,890 --> 00:37:52,740
you, here's an example of the
Yahoo situation. This is what

659
00:37:52,740 --> 00:37:55,530
really got me because I'm
looking at I don't have the

660
00:37:55,530 --> 00:37:58,800
newsletter doesn't show up, I go
to the spam box. And the spam

661
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,510
box has got a bunch of crap in
it. Mostly, you know, so and so

662
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:07,050
wants you to be her Facebook
friend, a bunch of solicitations

663
00:38:07,050 --> 00:38:10,170
for hookers essentially, of
different sorts. It's just a

664
00:38:10,170 --> 00:38:13,830
bunch of benefit. is there's a
bunch of junk in there that is,

665
00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:14,190
you know,

666
00:38:14,730 --> 00:38:18,420
are you getting the one I'm
getting this a lot? Hey, I

667
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:21,870
missed you online the other day,
are you gonna? We've seen all

668
00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:24,630
these. They're good, though.
Because no matter how you can't

669
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:27,000
spam, you can't spam filter
those out, they keep coming

670
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,110
through. Hey, it's Miranda.

671
00:38:28,350 --> 00:38:30,690
Yeah, well, that you start
checking now because these are

672
00:38:30,690 --> 00:38:33,720
not coming through. And here's
the thing that got that got to

673
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:36,270
me. So I'm looking in the spam
box is a bunch of this kind of

674
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:39,300
stuff you just described. And
then I just I just saw this all

675
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,630
day, looking for the newsletter,
which wasn't even in there. So I

676
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:45,810
just killed all that stuff that
purged it. And then as soon as I

677
00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:51,000
went back to my amp now empty
box, a huge, huge ad from Yahoo

678
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,820
shows up meet singles in
Berkeley, essentially stealing

679
00:38:56,820 --> 00:39:00,780
the business of these other
spammers. Yeah. And by the way,

680
00:39:00,810 --> 00:39:04,050
that you can go around the
country and go through the same

681
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:08,310
process. And you'll see see meet
singles in St. Louis, and take a

682
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:11,010
screenshot of that it's the same
women what are these women

683
00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:13,710
floating around in a bus? It
doesn't make any there's a whole

684
00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:17,430
thing that isn't Wow, out and
out fraud. John god,

685
00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:20,460
you're doing you're telling me
that the women they put in the

686
00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:23,040
ads aren't the ones you'll
actually meet in Berkeley.

687
00:39:23,339 --> 00:39:26,579
You won't meet anybody, by the
way. So that's your first

688
00:39:26,579 --> 00:39:31,439
mistake, thinking you're gonna
meet somebody. So. So this is a

689
00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:36,059
direct attack and mercantile
attack. Yeah, that's mergency

690
00:39:36,059 --> 00:39:40,049
all businesses, us, it's an
attack on us and everyone else.

691
00:39:40,049 --> 00:39:42,899
So these companies who are
trying to get their numbers up

692
00:39:42,899 --> 00:39:46,199
can steal the business in the
case of Yahoo, and these

693
00:39:46,229 --> 00:39:49,859
solicitations, well for you
know, friendfinder So here's how

694
00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:52,950
it goes. So here's how it goes.
Like, oh, let me see if there's

695
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:57,900
anything from no agenda, any
news and like, hey, these chicks

696
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,960
look hot. Oh, wait, and let me
know amigo, though. Let me go

697
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,180
check this website out and
they're gone. And then we're

698
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:06,030
done. We're toast, subverted by
hookers.

699
00:40:07,379 --> 00:40:10,649
Well, we're not subverted just
just by hookers were subverted

700
00:40:10,649 --> 00:40:13,919
by these, these free email
service providers who have

701
00:40:13,919 --> 00:40:17,729
decided to go into business for
themselves. And they're just

702
00:40:17,729 --> 00:40:21,659
essentially going to start
targeting the their users with

703
00:40:21,779 --> 00:40:26,129
stuff that they want to sell
them. And instead of giving them

704
00:40:26,129 --> 00:40:28,409
the free email service that they
were promised, I mean, this

705
00:40:28,409 --> 00:40:32,069
whole thing is completely upside
down. It's a it's a disaster for

706
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:35,909
us. It's obviously showed up in
the in today's

707
00:40:36,930 --> 00:40:40,680
what let's let's thank our one
on one producer who said,

708
00:40:40,919 --> 00:40:44,969
Nicholas print prints. Prints
seat by guest prints SEPA

709
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,869
prinsip

710
00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:50,010
prinsip prinsip pay Principate
principle a principle design

711
00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:52,800
Raleigh North Carroll whatever
his name is, he can call himself

712
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,620
executive producer. I've episode
541 That's where

713
00:40:55,950 --> 00:41:00,780
he'll be the executive producer.
He did send a note so they can

714
00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:05,850
find it. I get a bunch of notes
from different people think he's

715
00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:10,980
got the little one here? Yeah,
he sent a longhand note. Connie

716
00:41:10,980 --> 00:41:16,590
that's kind of a mish Mosh ITM
John anatomy finally finally

717
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:20,760
correcting from Boehner to donor
after several months of

718
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:27,540
listening after after disc can't
read that no agenda buy

719
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:31,260
something browsing of all the
things I he only got it from the

720
00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:34,350
iTunes Music Store just out of
the blue you never really know

721
00:41:34,350 --> 00:41:38,460
why. Anyway, you're all overdue
for some value for value. So

722
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:42,870
here it is $333.33 Instead of
any karma or anything just let

723
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:47,220
Adam come up with some jingles a
jingle combination of his own

724
00:41:47,250 --> 00:41:54,510
choosing Keep up the good work.
You all need as much support as

725
00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:57,270
you can get the best value mac
and cheese around kind of thing

726
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:04,320
okay, I get to do well since
since since he is a new the the

727
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,510
sole executive producer due to
clearly our failed promotions.

728
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:13,980
But thanks to the promotions of
the free email services, I get

729
00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:15,600
to do a nice long little
sequence

730
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:31,560
intelligence work takes place
within a strong legal framework.

731
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,660
We operate under the rule of law
and are accountable for it. In

732
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:39,840
southern countries secret
intelligence is used to control

733
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,100
their people in ours it only
exists to protect their

734
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:48,570
freedoms, protect their freedoms
protect their freedom

735
00:42:51,660 --> 00:42:54,900
that's one of the great clips
Thank you Nicholas

736
00:42:55,110 --> 00:43:00,900
highly appreciate that. So then
don't wait for an email to show

737
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:07,110
up to remind you let me remind
you right now vorak.org/and A we

738
00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:09,960
need you to support our show
because I'm now I see what

739
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,310
you're talking about. I'm
looking at the spreadsheet

740
00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:14,070
whenever short donation segment
as well today so

741
00:43:14,070 --> 00:43:18,810
the the thing and I use the word
so the thing that is going on is

742
00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:22,320
it and I think if I was
MailChimp I'd be freak because I

743
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,660
think everybody this is going to
start people are going to start

744
00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:25,770
noticing it's quite the

745
00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:30,300
it's quite the opposite you know
the order in the reality may be

746
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:36,330
different but the I have find it
for you. The CEO of MailChimp

747
00:43:36,330 --> 00:43:41,850
was really he's cavalier about
this really Cavalier and you got

748
00:43:41,850 --> 00:43:45,570
to think that the only reason
why because you know here's

749
00:43:45,570 --> 00:43:47,880
here's how I would see it play
out I'm gonna search for this

750
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,110
right now for the the MailChimp
guy. Here's how I'd see it play

751
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:57,840
out I would have sanctioned for
a fee lose, which is what it's

752
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,650
going to come down to, like, Oh,
if you want to reach outside of

753
00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:04,800
the promotions tab, well, then
you're going to have to pay some

754
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,740
extra money probably to
MailChimp cool, then, you know,

755
00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:11,550
we're being charged by Google.
This is how the shakedown works

756
00:44:11,550 --> 00:44:15,270
we already have this would you
have whitelist in the email

757
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:18,900
spent any if you have if you
start a company today, and you

758
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:23,100
have users who need to retrieve
a password, do not think that

759
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,460
they can just retrieve your
password or get you know your

760
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:29,430
company emails, you will have to
go through a whitelisting

761
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:33,990
service which can cost upwards
of $100,000 a year just to be

762
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:38,220
whitelisted on the big so called
free email providers. We've been

763
00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:39,810
through this John we've seen
this happen

764
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Yeah, no this is getting to be a
real problem with the only I

765
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,450
mean the bypass is syntax tags

766
00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:50,100
tax is gonna be a tax and we buy
it.

767
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,160
It's a fee it's a fee. It's a
fee in fact mail I bet you

768
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,100
MailChimp and Constant Contact
into two or three other these

769
00:44:56,100 --> 00:45:01,740
services that are the big ones
that are big I think extorted

770
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:04,320
are probably the price at Yeah,
well, you know, you see the

771
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,100
there, they have certain IPS
comes through and your Google or

772
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:11,400
Yahoo and you say, Ah, yeah,
throw that in the promotions tab

773
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,830
it's coming from, if it's coming
from MailChimp, it's not

774
00:45:13,830 --> 00:45:16,560
personally and I just John, and
you can actually see in a

775
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:16,950
meeting and

776
00:45:17,580 --> 00:45:21,180
it's much deeper than that. Did
you all these guys are hooked up

777
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:23,610
to it's not it'll come to you in
a moment, the name of the

778
00:45:23,610 --> 00:45:27,000
service, but there's all these
transport providers that if you

779
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,000
don't use that, then you're
automatically suspicious.

780
00:45:30,180 --> 00:45:34,110
Because then you know, I've been
deep into this by rebuilding my

781
00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:37,680
mail server. And, you know, I
was like, Oh, I thought I'll

782
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,070
just write a little giblet about
this. It's not easy. And it's

783
00:45:41,070 --> 00:45:44,190
technically it's easy to get it
set up. But then to figure out

784
00:45:44,190 --> 00:45:47,490
what is how do you deal with
spam yourself? That's one part

785
00:45:47,490 --> 00:45:52,440
of it, the incoming. But the
other part is, how do you tell

786
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,930
other mail services that you're
not spam? This is this is very,

787
00:45:57,930 --> 00:46:02,130
very complicated. It's doable,
but there's a there's a lot of

788
00:46:02,130 --> 00:46:05,100
hoops and these guys, it's
cartel forming, essentially,

789
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,010
these guys have all gotten
they've got it all nailed down.

790
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,610
And it's only a matter of time
before they start charging you

791
00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:16,020
money to send if I if, if I
could do it, that will be my

792
00:46:16,020 --> 00:46:19,470
service, guaranteed email
delivery, because you can't

793
00:46:19,470 --> 00:46:22,020
guarantee your email is going to
arrive anymore because of all of

794
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:26,940
this stuff. There's in the mail.
I can't find the article but the

795
00:46:26,940 --> 00:46:31,320
MailChimp guy. I'm telling you,
he's he's too smug about this.

796
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,430
Oh, you know, maybe a little
dip. We're not too worried about

797
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:39,090
it. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right.
So when is the premium service

798
00:46:39,090 --> 00:46:41,550
coming? You watch? Put it in the
book?

799
00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:44,910
Yeah. Well, there's definitely
going to be gouging involved

800
00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:48,720
because that's the way you do
it. But it seems to be we're

801
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:51,990
looking at essentially what
amounts to criminal enterprise

802
00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:55,290
in every direction from coming
in from everywhere. Well, you

803
00:46:55,290 --> 00:46:58,290
know, the end the top guys
Google and Yahoo, like you said,

804
00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:02,520
they're number one and two.
They're the top of the of this

805
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:04,440
of this racket and racketeering
it

806
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,470
is and when here's what's gonna
happen because they're hurting

807
00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:10,020
small business. We're small
business, we are very small

808
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:15,450
business, but we employ one.
Besides us, we employ Eric, the

809
00:47:15,450 --> 00:47:20,280
shell. And I think that may even
be it's below with minimum wage

810
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,890
was probably illegal. But it's,
it's hurting us. And so if

811
00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:30,240
people continue to let this grow
and to let these let these

812
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,420
monopolies What did you call it?
The, you know, the the criminal

813
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,460
enterprise, continue to suppress
everything, you're gonna wind up

814
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:41,730
with really shitty shows to
listen to? Because we'll be off?

815
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:44,250
We'll be done. We'll have to
we'll move on to do something

816
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:50,040
else. And you know, I don't know
what's left. Enjoy. Is good luck

817
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,610
with that.

818
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,110
Yeah, well, actually, there's
nothing else. But now this

819
00:47:55,110 --> 00:47:57,240
situation is completely out of
control. i The only thing I can

820
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,300
recommend for people is to kill
those those tabs on the Google

821
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:00,840
Gmail.

822
00:48:01,710 --> 00:48:04,710
Get off it. Yeah, just stop
using it. Stop using it. But you

823
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:07,020
know how you're going to do that
when even most of the companies

824
00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:09,990
now I was looking at here's the
thing I was I was we had an

825
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:13,740
article about us in one of the
large German German newspapers.

826
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:16,620
Yeah. Which was a nice article,
actually. Yeah, we'll link to it

827
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:20,940
in the show notes. And I tweeted
about it. That's in the show

828
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,780
notes. Right. I tweeted about
it, too. So I went to the

829
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:26,130
Translate services, the

830
00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:29,760
translation was media was
terrible, wasn't even close.

831
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,360
It was to it was very, you know,
modern German, and apparently

832
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,910
Google can't even do so that
goes to Google Translate

833
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:39,240
immediately. And it did does the
crappiest job of translation.

834
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,310
You wouldn't know what this
article was about. It's not even

835
00:48:41,310 --> 00:48:42,780
close. Can I read that? Can

836
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:44,190
I read a passage? Wait, let

837
00:48:44,190 --> 00:48:48,300
me finish this little? Yeah. So
I just saw I said, Well, you

838
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:51,090
know, there's a lot of
alternatives. So I go to another

839
00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:55,230
one. And then it redirects me to
Google Translate. There used to

840
00:48:55,230 --> 00:48:57,990
be like, 10 of these things. And
now they're all Google

841
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:59,970
Translate. What did that

842
00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:02,340
happen among all the
expectations brought to the

843
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:05,220
internet, but we're
disappointed. Bear tobradex

844
00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:10,170
radio theory was after that,
that's a very famous writer, old

845
00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:14,520
school was every small producers
broad an audience will one of

846
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:20,580
the most durable. The internet
has the institutions but not

847
00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:24,150
overcome. But on the contrary,
it has created giant

848
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:27,060
multibillion dollar
corporations, small media

849
00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:29,700
institutions that resist this
development, fighting for the

850
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:33,090
economic freedom. They're mostly
dependent on advertising

851
00:49:33,090 --> 00:49:35,610
revenues that a public media
offer an independent,

852
00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:39,180
sustainable and directly funded
remains an unfulfilled desire. I

853
00:49:39,180 --> 00:49:41,610
sound like one of those like the
entertainment reporters who get

854
00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:46,260
their brain scrambled but like
the award show, yeah. Maybe,

855
00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:48,510
maybe they're run by Google
Translate. They're actually

856
00:49:48,510 --> 00:49:49,650
German spies.

857
00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:53,790
This translation is not even
close to anything functional.

858
00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:57,210
Well, it tells me that it's not
really possible. It's just not

859
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:58,770
it's not that easy.

860
00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:02,850
No, we know that that, but I
remember there being a couple of

861
00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:05,250
services that were a lot better
than this.

862
00:50:06,030 --> 00:50:09,600
Hmm, I've, you know, I've I've
because I speak to

863
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,330
what you're saying. And I agree
with you that generally

864
00:50:12,330 --> 00:50:15,990
speaking, it's impossible. But
it's not doesn't have to be this

865
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:16,410
bad.

866
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,360
What you're saying is that at
least what came out the other

867
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,120
side was it may not have been
entirely correct, but at least

868
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:21,990
it was English.

869
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:25,800
Well, you least you can kind of
figure out what they were

870
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,130
talking about. This thing is
impossible. You can't figure out

871
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:32,580
what they're talking about
something about our show. And

872
00:50:32,580 --> 00:50:35,970
there's a picture of you and you
and you're in a sports car. What

873
00:50:35,970 --> 00:50:37,800
is that? That's a picture

874
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:44,550
from 19 From 2006. And it's not
a sports car. It's no it is

875
00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:46,350
that's my Audi know when I had
an Audi.

876
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Oh, I always thought you had an
any.

877
00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:55,740
All right, I would want to as a
PR mentioned here, I'd like to

878
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:59,850
thank the producer. I don't know
his name I but I have the link

879
00:50:59,850 --> 00:51:04,020
in the show notes at 541 dot na
shownotes.com who was producing

880
00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:07,680
the no agenda dashcam video,
which is great. So essentially,

881
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,400
it's him listening to a no
agenda episode while you're

882
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:16,770
watching the road. Is that it's
quite mesmerizing, that it's

883
00:51:16,770 --> 00:51:19,350
pretty mesmerizing. Just sitting
there just watching him drive

884
00:51:19,350 --> 00:51:21,780
along the highway, looking out
the front and you're listening

885
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:25,140
to the show is it's kind of like
if you don't have a commute.

886
00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:27,750
It's like here have a commute
while you're enjoying the show.

887
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:32,490
It's kind of good, fun, fun
idea. And in the morning to you

888
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:33,690
John C. Dvorak.

889
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,180
In the morning, you Adam curry
in the morning and all the ships

890
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:39,210
at sea boots on the ground feet
in the air, and subs in the

891
00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:41,760
water along with the night
Knights and Dames out there.

892
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,120
Yes, I'd

893
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,460
also like to say in the morning
to all of the human resources in

894
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:47,310
the chat room nogen the
stream.com no agenda chat.net.

895
00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:51,210
Good to have you all here and
depleting your $9.2 million

896
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,810
value. And thank you very much
to our artists nick the rat, who

897
00:51:54,810 --> 00:51:58,950
came in good to see Nick the
rack back, I had a great piece

898
00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:03,000
of art for album art for Episode
540, you can see all of the

899
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,940
submissions at no agenda, art
generator.com And throw

900
00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:08,520
something yourself. We choose it
right after the show. And we are

901
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,340
always appreciative of the work
that all of our artists do. And

902
00:52:11,340 --> 00:52:15,270
of course, whether you donate or
not, please consider propagating

903
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:20,610
our formula. Our formula is
this, we go out, we hit people

904
00:52:20,610 --> 00:52:21,090
in the mouth.

905
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,080
I do want to say one thing
following on the email server

906
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,220
conversation. So I'm I'm a disc
jockey. Really, I mean, I have

907
00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:45,720
not had any classical training.
I'm not a programmer, I'm just a

908
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:50,490
guy who has been interested. And
if you take the time to read,

909
00:52:50,490 --> 00:52:52,650
and I'll say this too, because
there's a whole generation who

910
00:52:52,650 --> 00:52:56,670
have grown up with computers.
And actually, my lovely wife,

911
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,850
Miss Mickey used to be this way.
And here's here's where it is.

912
00:52:59,850 --> 00:53:03,390
So the computer tells you
something. And it's sometimes

913
00:53:03,390 --> 00:53:07,920
it's a like a recently it's been
I got a rejection message from

914
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,100
your mail server, it didn't
work. And I'll say, Well, what

915
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,250
did the message say? I don't
know, I threw it out, too. Well,

916
00:53:14,250 --> 00:53:16,860
you know, there's something
there's actually information in

917
00:53:16,860 --> 00:53:20,460
there that might say, I couldn't
find the address, you know, I'll

918
00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:24,780
try again, your attachment was
too large, or you spell the name

919
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:28,290
wrong, you spell Yeah, spell the
name wrong. So there is and I

920
00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:32,160
will be the first to admit that
engineers make shitty

921
00:53:32,190 --> 00:53:36,930
informational messaging. And we
all have seen the funny dialog

922
00:53:36,930 --> 00:53:40,740
boxes that pop up on programs.
But if you take the time,

923
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,680
because I've seen this happen,
people go like, Oh, Bloom, I got

924
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,710
an error, click that click it
away. Without reading what it

925
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:50,010
said. And you're not gonna learn
anything about your noc, you're

926
00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:52,980
not gonna get any further
without reading. What is being

927
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:55,620
said. Now? Yes, it's often
written by an engineer,

928
00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:59,250
sometimes not even the English
is not his first language. And

929
00:53:59,250 --> 00:54:01,110
it's going to you have to think
about what is he actually

930
00:54:01,110 --> 00:54:04,140
saying, but at least you have
part of that information. You

931
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:07,650
know, this, this is still 10
years ago, we didn't have any of

932
00:54:07,650 --> 00:54:10,650
this. So you've got to
participate in the system and

933
00:54:10,650 --> 00:54:14,430
help make it better and learn a
little bit. And you can learn

934
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:18,540
how to run a Linux box, you can
learn how to set up an email

935
00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:23,040
server, you know, the people,
everyone wants a an app, like a

936
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,430
click one in one click Install
App, it's not going to happen.

937
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,450
Okay, it's not going to happen
for email, you're gonna have to

938
00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:33,600
learn how to do it. But guess
what? A it's free. It's

939
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,650
virtually free the software
that's available. Then if you

940
00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:41,280
want you can set up a virtual
server on Rackspace or somewhere

941
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,430
else and you wish you can kill
so it'll cost you like $2 to

942
00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:48,300
experiment if you do it for two
days. But you've got to you've

943
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:53,640
got to do something. And it's
not like brain surgery. If these

944
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,860
things are written in English.

945
00:54:55,980 --> 00:55:00,480
Some people don't have the time
for it. Their work King for a

946
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,660
living, they have a family to
raise, they expect to go to

947
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:08,970
Yahoo mail and get their mail.
When it was sent to them, Well,

948
00:55:08,970 --> 00:55:11,910
I'm sure they're gonna have a
bunch of crap in there too. But

949
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:15,510
if something like it's I was on
I was went to LinkedIn, and now

950
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:17,940
LinkedIn is trying to become
Facebook. So they got all these

951
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
news feeds and people's
commentaries and whatever

952
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,000
somebody wrote an article,
there's right on the front page,

953
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,990
and it says, Oh, this is now
that Google's put the promotions

954
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:32,070
tab on, this is such an
improvement. It ends the cold

955
00:55:32,070 --> 00:55:35,370
calling, it ends this, it ends
that, okay, I'm reading this

956
00:55:35,370 --> 00:55:38,640
idiot, I write this, I write a
nasty notice that this is

957
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,550
bullcrap. There are people that
there aren't all the newsletter,

958
00:55:41,550 --> 00:55:43,770
people out there, and there's
tons of them, the news, your

959
00:55:43,770 --> 00:55:45,870
newsletter is not going to get
through anymore, because

960
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:49,470
Google's decided that is not
something somebody wants,

961
00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:51,870
let me just finish my thought
here for a second because it

962
00:55:51,870 --> 00:55:56,610
plays right into that. So
everybody, even if you work

963
00:55:56,610 --> 00:56:00,810
really, really hard, okay,
everybody has a day or two off.

964
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,110
And if this is if it doesn't
bother you, if you if this is

965
00:56:04,110 --> 00:56:06,750
all great, and you know, you're
happy that you don't get the

966
00:56:06,750 --> 00:56:10,350
spam anymore, or fantastic, then
whatever, then you deal with

967
00:56:10,350 --> 00:56:13,890
your life the way you want to.
But it's not just about an email

968
00:56:13,890 --> 00:56:17,160
server, it's auto, all of these
things. It's like learning how

969
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,610
your car works. We don't know
that anymore, either. And these

970
00:56:20,610 --> 00:56:24,180
things are good skills to have.
It's also gee, it can be fun.

971
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:28,290
And I have to say here at home,
even just miss Mickey just

972
00:56:28,290 --> 00:56:32,010
taking the time to read the
dialogues, has gone from me

973
00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:36,630
being a full time IT support
person for her to a husband and

974
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:41,850
a lover. It's really improved a
lot of things in our life. And

975
00:56:41,850 --> 00:56:45,420
she says, she'll come down she
go, Hey, man, I fixed it myself.

976
00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:48,240
And she's really proud of what
she's done. And she knows now

977
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,940
I'd like you know, hey, I'm
going to take a trip. I did not

978
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:57,120
upgrade my iOS software. Yeah,
you're fantastic. And it's these

979
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,460
little things. And if you take a
little bit of time, it's gonna

980
00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:02,640
make your life that much better.
And maybe you'll you'll, you'll

981
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,400
think of something new that you
can do that's better than email

982
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,910
or better than the established
apps and systems that we have.

983
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,590
You know what, make your kids do
it. Tell your kids to go learn

984
00:57:13,590 --> 00:57:20,400
how to do this stuff. Now about
reading, geez. But I think it's

985
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,810
important. I think that I think

986
00:57:21,810 --> 00:57:24,330
your lecture is fine. I think
it's falling on deaf ears.

987
00:57:24,629 --> 00:57:33,329
Maybe about reading. Okay. So
and I said so. The coroner

988
00:57:33,329 --> 00:57:39,389
report came out regarding the
Michael Hastings. Autopsy now

989
00:57:39,389 --> 00:57:40,619
I'm sure you've heard of this,
John.

990
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,890
I've heard of it. Yes. Yes. I
thought it was

991
00:57:43,890 --> 00:57:47,520
cremated. That turns out to be
not true. Oh,

992
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,660
that's nice to know. D we call
that biatch out early.

993
00:57:52,530 --> 00:57:56,280
Okay. Did you did you read any
articles about about the results

994
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,800
of whatsoever? Really? You're
full of shit. And you know you

995
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,280
did?

996
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:04,950
No, I don't know what you're
talking about my I don't even

997
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:06,690
know who this guy is. Come on.

998
00:58:06,690 --> 00:58:09,660
Help me out a little bit. All
right. What? All right, so

999
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:14,880
Michael Hastings. We all want to
know you know what happened he

1000
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,860
moved in. He drove his brand new
Mercedes into a tree killed on

1001
00:58:19,860 --> 00:58:20,460
100

1002
00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:23,850
miles an hour and exploded even
though the Mercedes company

1003
00:58:23,850 --> 00:58:27,690
itself went out of the way so
our cars are designed not to do

1004
00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:30,780
what happened there. This is and
they said this is bogus.

1005
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,990
Exactly. And for some reason.
Now my mouse is just freaked

1006
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:37,110
out, which is never a good
thing. What is going on here?

1007
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:42,870
Yeah, those mouths always never
trusted. I still don't think

1008
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:44,520
they're gonna make it long term.

1009
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,710
I don't think this thing will
ever really work out as a

1010
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:47,250
system.

1011
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:49,470
I'm never gonna happen. We're
gonna

1012
00:58:49,470 --> 00:58:54,960
have all right. So now what they
say I'm gonna read the Okay, so

1013
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,130
the reporting in general is Oh
my God. He had in his system.

1014
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:09,030
Methamphetamine DMT. Marijuana.
It just didn't stop. It did not

1015
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:12,030
stop and and, and every

1016
00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:14,100
is burnt to a crisp. I'd like to
know how they got this

1017
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:15,930
information. But okay, okay.
Well,

1018
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,350
so I have I have the coroner
report and I have the lab report

1019
00:59:19,350 --> 00:59:23,760
and I have the police report.
And also apparently when the two

1020
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,800
cops went to his family's house,
they were like, here upon

1021
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,730
inquiry. This person family
member believed decent.

1022
00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:36,660
decedent. Is that the Is that
another word for deceased

1023
00:59:36,780 --> 00:59:37,530
decedent?

1024
00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:42,330
I definitely think that deceased
is the way I was raised it

1025
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:46,710
d c e d e n t decedent, the
cedent destiny would be

1026
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:50,190
decedent excellent to see didn't
the deceit and to deceive as

1027
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:54,390
well usually refers to like your
son or your you know, some

1028
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:58,050
deceit and I don't know what
they do anyway. Continue.

1029
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,970
The dead guy was currently used
DMT confirmed use of medical

1030
01:00:02,970 --> 01:00:04,170
marijuana as well as

1031
01:00:04,170 --> 01:00:05,940
a drive on DMT

1032
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,750
well, well that's so

1033
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,730
it can't even stand up. Now
that's not true. Okay, you can

1034
01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:17,070
stand up and you can talk to me
you're gonna agree you're gonna

1035
01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:20,340
tap DMT which is an hour long
ridiculous

1036
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:24,090
let me let me move you beyond
all this okay because this is

1037
01:00:24,540 --> 01:00:27,120
this is the conversation that
your alternative media are

1038
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,750
already having. So there's a
couple of things that are weird.

1039
01:00:30,750 --> 01:00:35,700
So one is the body was charred.
The literature says the eyes

1040
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:39,780
were cooked the coroner writes
this which is what what coroner

1041
01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:40,950
writes down a medical

1042
01:00:41,820 --> 01:00:44,400
says eyes and then next to it,
you put Cookus

1043
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,450
literally says, and there's
heavy charring of the entire

1044
01:00:48,450 --> 01:00:52,410
head and neck. The scalp over
the calvaria is completely

1045
01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:55,020
burned off the face is
unrecognizable and completely

1046
01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:59,730
charred. The eyes are cooked,
the tongue protrudes, protrudes,

1047
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,090
protrudes and is thoroughly
blackened so it is tongue

1048
01:01:03,090 --> 01:01:06,450
sticking out it's kind of a howl
doll thing. Screaming does not

1049
01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:09,090
Yeah, there's moderate charring
over the neck and left shoulder

1050
01:01:09,090 --> 01:01:12,870
area so it's all disgusting now
the actual cause of death is of

1051
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:18,870
course you know high speed into
an immovable object which so you

1052
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:22,050
never die of speed but the lack
of speed but it went through his

1053
01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:25,050
right leg which I thought was
interesting. So he died because

1054
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,470
of his his leg being stuck on
the accelerator. And that

1055
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:32,220
compounds if you read this
report compounds all the way

1056
01:01:32,220 --> 01:01:35,070
through and that basically kills
you in seconds which is kind of

1057
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:39,270
kind of interesting. So everyone
is if you look at like chunk who

1058
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:42,030
I guess did he worked with chunk
in those guys on The Young

1059
01:01:42,030 --> 01:01:42,600
Turks.

1060
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:45,840
He was on the show a lot or a
couple of times and he then they

1061
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:46,950
I think they got along and

1062
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:52,770
they're all freaking out about
this is now reg. No, this didn't

1063
01:01:52,770 --> 01:01:55,950
really happen in the system. It
might have been weeks ago and

1064
01:01:55,950 --> 01:01:58,440
you know, you can't drive that
didn't happen and you no one

1065
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,570
reads the report. No one reads
the report.

1066
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,890
Okay, that's your imitation of
Chun. That's

1067
01:02:05,070 --> 01:02:08,910
well, and the woman who was on
the show? Yeah. So let me tell

1068
01:02:08,910 --> 01:02:12,330
you what I really found in the
report. So we have the autopsy

1069
01:02:12,330 --> 01:02:16,110
report, and we have the lab
report. Okay. And the lab sends

1070
01:02:16,110 --> 01:02:21,810
back information about what they
actually found. And uses a lot

1071
01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:27,660
of NDS NDS, when they find
carboxy, THC, some other THC,

1072
01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:31,590
some meth, some amphetamine, a
couple other things. So they

1073
01:02:31,590 --> 01:02:33,780
have a little I don't I have no
idea what the values mean.

1074
01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,420
That's not what I'm going to
debate. But here's what I saw,

1075
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:38,640
which I thought was rather
interesting. So the source was

1076
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,660
the chest blood. And the
container type was the red top

1077
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:47,160
tube. And okay, so that was what
the lab used. And then you go

1078
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,280
back into the coroner's report.
And here's toxicology, I

1079
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:55,290
collected chest blood and put it
in a purple top tube. Oh,

1080
01:02:56,550 --> 01:03:00,030
really? I think I would see the
difference between red and

1081
01:03:00,030 --> 01:03:01,050
purple. How about you?

1082
01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:05,430
Yeah, seems so. Yeah,

1083
01:03:05,490 --> 01:03:07,740
I'm thinking the blood was
switched.

1084
01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:13,950
Oh, that could be and if not, I
mean, DMT was reported. There's

1085
01:03:13,950 --> 01:03:15,660
something fishy about that.
Let's face

1086
01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:19,200
it. If not, there's a huge
discrepancy between purple and

1087
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,850
red. This you can't have this.
You can't have you know, one

1088
01:03:23,850 --> 01:03:27,090
report saying it. We put it in
the purple top tube. And the

1089
01:03:27,090 --> 01:03:32,160
other report saying we put it in
the red top tube. And why is no

1090
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,130
one screaming about that? I'm
going to tell you this is not

1091
01:03:35,130 --> 01:03:36,150
even his blood.

1092
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,240
Now it's probably some rig blood
blood.

1093
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,820
Kept rig trick blood. Yeah.
John.

1094
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,240
Rig. Just to bunch of you got
any blood over there some DMT in

1095
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,440
it. Yeah,

1096
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:50,700
I got some right here.

1097
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:57,150
In there out. We can put this
stuff in ourselves. It it's just

1098
01:03:57,150 --> 01:03:57,390
like,

1099
01:03:58,410 --> 01:04:01,380
well, what's the point of having
this report with the blood? I

1100
01:04:01,380 --> 01:04:05,400
mean, what do you So okay, so
they, whether he had, whether

1101
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,290
it's his blood or not, it's

1102
01:04:07,830 --> 01:04:11,430
the whole idea is to prove that
you know, whatever happened? Oh,

1103
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:15,150
it's because he was stoned.
Exactly. Exactly that and it's

1104
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:18,780
close. I don't know about you.
It's done. It's done. It's over.

1105
01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:19,830
You know, we'll never see it.

1106
01:04:20,220 --> 01:04:23,850
See, and somebody's you don't
drive around and you're holy

1107
01:04:23,850 --> 01:04:26,970
shit. I hope I can get there.
Let me just creep along at 10

1108
01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:27,240
miles.

1109
01:04:29,610 --> 01:04:39,360
If you'd like Oh, man. Oh, do do
fast. 15 is way out of my

1110
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:45,810
league. Yeah. And DMT I mean,
yeah, you couldn't walk no

1111
01:04:45,810 --> 01:04:49,380
problem, but you're not going to
well, you know, the DMT is only

1112
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:51,960
20 minutes and after that it's
in your system, but you don't

1113
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,740
you're not high from it. This I
can speak on some authority.

1114
01:04:56,279 --> 01:05:01,889
So the so I said it again. Damn
it. No, it's not a no such thing

1115
01:05:01,889 --> 01:05:02,459
as a problem

1116
01:05:02,490 --> 01:05:03,900
sucks. Yeah. Well, there's,

1117
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,350
if you just literally somewhere
I think we've got amazing out of

1118
01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:08,010
our systems,

1119
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,770
but there's so thing is really
bad. And if you it's almost

1120
01:05:10,770 --> 01:05:14,520
hideous it is because it's not
even doing anything other than

1121
01:05:14,850 --> 01:05:15,360
photos.

1122
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:17,760
No, no might as well be a
Hummer.

1123
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:22,230
I don't know, I'd rather I'd
rather you be a sower. But

1124
01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:28,080
sewers are better than Hummers
any day. It is. It is the

1125
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,530
method, it is the method of
grabbing someone actually

1126
01:05:31,530 --> 01:05:35,820
grabbing the attention towards
you in a conversation and break

1127
01:05:35,820 --> 01:05:39,420
it. There's also an incessant
need to on the show like this. I

1128
01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:43,890
like having silence. But it's an
incessant need for people to

1129
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:50,580
never have a moment of silence
for thought. And that's another

1130
01:05:50,580 --> 01:05:54,120
another and another way of doing
it, obviously. But the so I hear

1131
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,030
people doing it to each other
the whole time. So how you

1132
01:05:57,030 --> 01:05:59,910
doing? So I'm okay, so where are
you gonna go this weekend? So I

1133
01:05:59,910 --> 01:06:02,400
was thinking, listen, if you
when you start really paying

1134
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:07,230
attention to it, it's scary and
bad. And, and I've gotten pretty

1135
01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:11,880
good at not doing it. But I've
stopped saying to people, man,

1136
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:13,830
you're really heavy on the CIO
stuff.

1137
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:16,230
I've stopped because I just know
you have to because they don't

1138
01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:19,200
they nobody hears it. You don't
hear yourself saying it. To be

1139
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,930
self aware enough to catch
yourself, which we've done twice

1140
01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:24,720
or three times on the show
already. It takes a lot of

1141
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:25,890
effort. But let's admit

1142
01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:29,160
it's, it's bad. And we're doing
it too. And it's really bad. And

1143
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,460
we got it.

1144
01:06:29,580 --> 01:06:31,920
We weren't doing the fact of the
matter. Somebody, you or

1145
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:37,800
somebody put together that clip
of us. Back to the fact that a

1146
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,290
fact of the matter. It was
embarrassing.

1147
01:06:40,650 --> 01:06:43,410
Well, especially when we call
people out on that stuff all the

1148
01:06:43,410 --> 01:06:47,730
time. Yeah. Have you noticed
this? This is a very disturbing

1149
01:06:47,730 --> 01:06:51,780
new trend. And it's working very
well. And I picked it up on

1150
01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:54,840
Facebook, I go to Facebook,
maybe once every two days.

1151
01:06:55,110 --> 01:06:57,870
Usually when Mickey says hey,
did you see what so and so put

1152
01:06:57,870 --> 01:07:00,960
on my Facebook? I'm like, No,
don't even ask me that, you

1153
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,450
know, and so, and the only
reason why I really got Facebook

1154
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,000
and I still have it is to keep
tabs on my daughter, you know,

1155
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,130
that's kind of where she's at.
So I want to make sure I see

1156
01:07:08,130 --> 01:07:11,790
everything, but I'm always the
terrorist guy. You know, I'm

1157
01:07:11,790 --> 01:07:14,970
always saying horrible things. I
post horrible things.

1158
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,860
You're a bad Facebook. Um,

1159
01:07:17,610 --> 01:07:20,730
I do it to me me a lot, too, by
the way, who was picked up or

1160
01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:23,400
Facebooking. Somehow she's
appeared on the radar again,

1161
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,360
maybe Facebook decided I could
see her posts again. And what's

1162
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,230
happened is, I keep seeing these
videos over and over again. And

1163
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:36,690
it's always kind of the same
thing. Kid tells grownups where

1164
01:07:36,690 --> 01:07:40,980
it's at teenager schools
journalist. And what is

1165
01:07:40,980 --> 01:07:46,200
happening is the radical left, I
will say the greenies which I'm

1166
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:51,630
not against, because there's
also a big anti GM movement have

1167
01:07:51,690 --> 01:07:59,910
trained their kids into becoming
spokespeople for any type of

1168
01:08:00,420 --> 01:08:07,080
mission. And the end, it's kind
of scary. Have you noticed that

1169
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,710
it's a trend the new trick what
so here's this 14 year old girl,

1170
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:15,720
and she called out? I'm gonna
say this was a Canadian news

1171
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,290
guy, saying, you know, hey, you
need to shut up about

1172
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,670
genetically modified food. We
are the future and you What do

1173
01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:27,270
you know? And she called him
fascist with it, which is

1174
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:29,820
incorrect, actually. And
everyone's like, Oh, that's

1175
01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:32,490
funny. But we see use it
incorrectly because we know what

1176
01:08:32,490 --> 01:08:38,400
fascism really is. No, she
meant, like a totalitarian,

1177
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:44,280
maybe. So and so they invite her
onto their show. And she and

1178
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,710
listen, just listen to her talk.
And I have another example of

1179
01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:50,520
one of these kids. And you tell
me that this kid has not been

1180
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,030
trained and doing a very good
job. Yes. 14 year

1181
01:08:54,030 --> 01:08:57,030
old Rachel parent throwing down
the gauntlet to Kevin the teen

1182
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:59,820
activist is passionate about
genetically modified food

1183
01:08:59,819 --> 01:09:02,759
and as you just heard takes
issue with a lot of things Kevin

1184
01:09:02,759 --> 01:09:05,459
has to say on the subject,
including a show that we did

1185
01:09:05,459 --> 01:09:08,759
some time ago. Rachel's an
activist and the founder of kids

1186
01:09:08,759 --> 01:09:10,589
right to know. Thank you for
being here.

1187
01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:11,640
Thank you for having me

1188
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,120
here today. Right there, right
there. I'm already done. I'm

1189
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,060
like, Oh, okay. That's exactly
how you're trying to do an NPR

1190
01:09:18,060 --> 01:09:18,420
school.

1191
01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:21,420
I want to start with how you
came to be passionate about

1192
01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:25,290
this. What was it about GMO that
actually drew you in the first

1193
01:09:25,290 --> 01:09:25,470
place?

1194
01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:29,910
I didn't want to make a joke
about it. But you want this.

1195
01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:32,610
This is the Canadian a Bucha
show? Well, originally

1196
01:09:32,610 --> 01:09:35,340
I had to do a speech for my
school and I really wasn't sure

1197
01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:38,310
what to do it on. So I was
reached researching these

1198
01:09:38,310 --> 01:09:41,430
different topics and I realized
that GMOs actually affected

1199
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:45,330
everything. So I decided to go
with GMOs and researched it more

1200
01:09:45,330 --> 01:09:49,470
and more and then eventually I
just got so when took protesting

1201
01:09:49,470 --> 01:09:53,220
and got so into it. I started
doing speeches for other people.

1202
01:09:55,470 --> 01:09:59,790
I listen to this and that it's
it is brilliant. But it's not

1203
01:09:59,790 --> 01:10:05,580
right. In a number of ways,
you're pushing a kid onto a

1204
01:10:05,580 --> 01:10:09,030
stage, who at a very young age
has really been trained to do

1205
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:13,200
this. And people find it
difficult to confront a child

1206
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,860
and it's this whole. This you
know, and then people who are

1207
01:10:16,890 --> 01:10:19,800
who are on board with the, with
whatever the child is pushing,

1208
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:23,280
like, Yeah, this is what kids do
a kid this kid's Great. Watch my

1209
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,280
kid be like that. It's weird.
And it's a little twisted and

1210
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,920
sick. Who are the other people
you're doing speeches for?

1211
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:34,950
I actually go to schools, and I
also do speeches at protests and

1212
01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:38,130
different conferences as well.
Are you

1213
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,890
I mean, the kids should be
playing with Barbie dolls. It's

1214
01:10:40,890 --> 01:10:43,350
okay. You know, you can have a
mission but you don't have to be

1215
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:44,730
this prodigy. You know,

1216
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,940
the line in there I do at a
protest because you can just see

1217
01:10:47,940 --> 01:10:52,020
some little kid coming up that
right wingers had a guy like

1218
01:10:52,020 --> 01:10:55,680
this was a little kid who was
became it was a writer. And he's

1219
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,670
actually pretty smart. But he
was like, I think 12 And he'd go

1220
01:10:59,670 --> 01:11:03,540
into these, each go up to the
podium. And it would be it would

1221
01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:08,790
the message was, if this little
kid that knows this. You're so

1222
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:11,370
smart. I mean, there's if
they're a little kid, if I use

1223
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:15,000
by the way, I have done the same
trick with with people and

1224
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,030
computers. I do it all the time.
I say, Well, hey, you know,

1225
01:11:18,030 --> 01:11:21,570
somebody's bitching at me go. I
can't get this to work. Similar

1226
01:11:21,570 --> 01:11:24,360
to the little lecture you just
had a minute ago. I would my

1227
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:28,680
thing was always, hey, if a 10
year old can do it, you can do

1228
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,320
it. That is essentially what the
message is here.

1229
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,230
Yeah, but it's intangible, and
that's okay to say it, but it's

1230
01:11:34,230 --> 01:11:35,730
not okay to push your kid to do

1231
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,430
well, there's a couple of
there's a couple of things here.

1232
01:11:38,430 --> 01:11:41,220
One, this is on a broadcast
show. I believe this is an

1233
01:11:41,220 --> 01:11:45,600
extortion vehicle. As as they
all are, Monsanto's not

1234
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,330
advertising enough. Let's go.

1235
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:51,600
Wait, let's let me play the
other kid. I've got this is

1236
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,500
straw boy. This is another one
of my favorites. A young man

1237
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:59,760
left a message for us the other
day. Oh, wow. The kid sitting

1238
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,720
around playing with his green
army men and thinks I gotta call

1239
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,880
up NPR. I gotta sit them
straight.

1240
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:14,580
Hi, I have some exciting news to
report. Oh good is that my name

1241
01:12:14,580 --> 01:12:17,820
is Milo founder and spokesperson
for an environmental

1242
01:12:17,820 --> 01:12:23,160
organization. And I live in
Longmont. Governor Hickenlooper

1243
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,310
just finally recognized my
organization with a

1244
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:31,290
proclamation. The name of my
organization is be stress free.

1245
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:36,120
Did you catch that? Bee straw
free? 12 year old Milo Cress is

1246
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,750
disturbed by how many drinking
straws people use and toss.

1247
01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:52,920
I'm telling you, this has to
stop people be straw free.

1248
01:12:54,750 --> 01:12:57,870
I don't know who they're
extorting on that one. Straw.

1249
01:12:57,870 --> 01:13:00,330
Maybe they want to get them back
into the game. I have no idea.

1250
01:13:00,330 --> 01:13:00,600
It's a

1251
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:05,130
seven minute report. But that's
not the point. Man is that seven

1252
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:06,390
minutes on NPR?

1253
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:09,720
Yeah. Clip of the Day hit it.

1254
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,880
Oh, man, I wasn't I was not
expecting that. Thank you. Hold

1255
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,950
on. clip out.

1256
01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:23,100
Straw. Three

1257
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,270
are. Our national treasure is
crumbling, though, John.

1258
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,110
How that's been going on since
we began the show. Well, but it

1259
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:31,800
got a little more

1260
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:37,920
interesting this past week as
Howard a Nell canal. The CEO who

1261
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:44,460
just came in like a year and a
half ago, quit. So this is their

1262
01:13:44,460 --> 01:13:48,150
I think their eighth CEO and
through the years

1263
01:13:48,330 --> 01:13:50,640
it's rooms I don't know what's
going on that this is their

1264
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,110
lives. The story behind all

1265
01:13:52,110 --> 01:13:55,650
Yes, indeed. I think I've
learned a couple of things.

1266
01:13:57,210 --> 01:14:00,030
Because because there was a
speech that I saw an interview

1267
01:14:00,030 --> 01:14:05,220
that was done with him about a
boot a year into his tenure at

1268
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:08,610
the Harvard that was at the
Nieman journalism bunch of hoity

1269
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,790
toity dipshits who think they're
all that in a bag of chips. By

1270
01:14:11,790 --> 01:14:14,790
the way. What is this is that
the J school at Harvard?

1271
01:14:14,970 --> 01:14:18,450
There's a good one bag of chips
and a bag of chips. I think that

1272
01:14:18,450 --> 01:14:21,450
came from my mom. Sounds
English.

1273
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:25,410
They all came from she was from
New England, if that helps. All

1274
01:14:25,410 --> 01:14:32,880
down all that in the bag of
chips. back so it was a Neiman

1275
01:14:33,330 --> 01:14:34,890
Is it the Nieman School of
Journalism?

1276
01:14:35,519 --> 01:14:37,709
Did Harvard School of
Journalism, the school of

1277
01:14:37,709 --> 01:14:39,629
journalism from Harvard doesn't
sound right.

1278
01:14:40,049 --> 01:14:44,249
Exactly. And he was being
interviewed and a couple of

1279
01:14:44,249 --> 01:14:48,209
things came out that was very
interesting. I'm going to play

1280
01:14:48,209 --> 01:14:51,569
two of them. The one that I did
the one clip I don't have

1281
01:14:51,569 --> 01:14:55,049
though, is that a five year I
think was five years ago maybe

1282
01:14:55,049 --> 01:14:59,099
little another six years ago.
Someone died some rich effort

1283
01:14:59,099 --> 01:15:05,069
died and Left npr $250 million.
And I think that money is now

1284
01:15:05,069 --> 01:15:09,509
gone and and that's what the
whole infrastructure was riding

1285
01:15:09,509 --> 01:15:09,809
on.

1286
01:15:10,469 --> 01:15:14,309
And then this bit they built a
big new skyscraper. Yeah. Well,

1287
01:15:14,309 --> 01:15:17,579
though, yeah. Had the the closer
of a rather nice offices and

1288
01:15:17,579 --> 01:15:20,249
build a skyscraper and they were
spending money left and right

1289
01:15:20,249 --> 01:15:22,439
they had. They were Yeah, they
were right. And hi.

1290
01:15:22,469 --> 01:15:25,559
So this Howard guy, Howard Nell
guy, I think he figured it out.

1291
01:15:25,559 --> 01:15:28,619
But he found out a couple more
things. I have two, two clips,

1292
01:15:28,619 --> 01:15:32,699
one real short one here. And
this is this before the news of

1293
01:15:32,699 --> 01:15:35,189
him quitting. And here's
something that I found

1294
01:15:35,189 --> 01:15:36,479
interesting to start off with.

1295
01:15:36,509 --> 01:15:41,069
So I think you got to just keep
pushing at this stuff. I think

1296
01:15:41,069 --> 01:15:43,559
he just gotta keep trying, I
think the audience is going to

1297
01:15:43,589 --> 01:15:46,499
demand more and more, maybe
podcasts weren't the thing to do

1298
01:15:46,499 --> 01:15:49,739
podcasts are sort of peaking
anyway, because it's all up in

1299
01:15:49,739 --> 01:15:52,619
the cloud now that you can pull
down and I've been joking with

1300
01:15:52,619 --> 01:15:56,519
people that overweight Well,
hold on Stop. What kind of logic

1301
01:15:56,519 --> 01:15:57,089
is this?

1302
01:15:57,150 --> 01:15:59,040
Well, remember, this is a guy
who has no idea what he's

1303
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,410
talking about. That's why I get
but

1304
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:04,140
But what even if he doesn't know
what he's talking about? Where's

1305
01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:07,320
the logic of Oh, podcasts are
dying? Because they're up in the

1306
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,230
cloud? Well, you interact with
that make them die? Well, I

1307
01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:13,140
mean, what's the connection is
cloud. If you're in the cloud,

1308
01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:16,080
it comes as back to the people
in the toxic fume.

1309
01:16:16,110 --> 01:16:19,230
Okay, I don't, I'm gonna I'm
gonna give you the answer. The

1310
01:16:19,230 --> 01:16:23,460
answer comes in two parts. So
first of all, he's saying, Maybe

1311
01:16:23,460 --> 01:16:26,700
we shouldn't have done podcasts.
And I know why he's saying that.

1312
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:28,440
But I'm not going to tell you
just now I'm going to well,

1313
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:31,200
we'll let it sit for a second.
But he goes into this, they're

1314
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,500
up in the cloud, that is for a
joke set up that he has, that is

1315
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,650
the unfunny joke in the world,
which we will now hear

1316
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,040
anyway, because it's all up in
the cloud now that you can pull

1317
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,260
down and I've been joking with
people that I think this was

1318
01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:46,170
part of Apple's plan to have
Steve Jobs up there actually

1319
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:47,700
controlling the whole thing.

1320
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,170
What an asshole.

1321
01:16:52,290 --> 01:16:53,880
Wow, right? Bad.

1322
01:16:56,100 --> 01:17:01,470
Like not good material? No, what
he figured out is that podcast,

1323
01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:05,940
and I'm going to take big credit
for this now has actually ruined

1324
01:17:05,970 --> 01:17:10,110
their business. This is really,
this is very exciting. And

1325
01:17:10,110 --> 01:17:12,150
there's a couple other things
that have ruined that are

1326
01:17:12,150 --> 01:17:14,610
ruining the business, as you'll
hear in this clip, where he

1327
01:17:14,610 --> 01:17:17,550
talks, just listen to him talk
about what's happening with

1328
01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:19,320
their business model, tougher

1329
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:24,690
question. And the biggest
challenge, to be honest, much

1330
01:17:24,690 --> 01:17:29,100
more than federal funding as an
issue is the digital disruption

1331
01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:36,630
of news and media. And my goal
with my colleagues, like Kinsey,

1332
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:41,310
Wilson, and other people, who
are much smarter than I am about

1333
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:47,400
seeing these things, is to take
the public radio mission and

1334
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:52,110
model and to transition it into
a public radio mission and model

1335
01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:58,470
that will continue on in, in a
change contextual world. So

1336
01:17:59,850 --> 01:18:01,170
you got to listen, you gotta
listen to

1337
01:18:01,170 --> 01:18:03,960
that guy. You got to back it up,
because he's like, I don't know

1338
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,670
why even we don't, we don't

1339
01:18:05,670 --> 01:18:09,090
have to back it up. Because
he's, he's leading up to saying,

1340
01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:12,060
it's just like confused logic.

1341
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,900
Okay, there's a couple things.
When you have a CEO of 100

1342
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:19,530
million, or multi 100 million
dollar corporation, who says

1343
01:18:19,530 --> 01:18:22,830
things like, well, I work with
my colleagues, so and so who is

1344
01:18:22,830 --> 01:18:28,140
much smarter than I am? That's a
red flag. You would never hear

1345
01:18:28,140 --> 01:18:33,480
Steve Jobs say, oh, even though
it's true. Oh, you know that

1346
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:36,930
that engineer over there is much
smarter than I am this you this

1347
01:18:36,930 --> 01:18:41,610
is not the words of a CEO speak.
No. And by the way, he went off

1348
01:18:41,610 --> 01:18:45,300
to the National Geographic
Society to run that. Now, now

1349
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:47,640
listen, because he's going to
tell you that the model has

1350
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,020
failed. But it comes out in a
way that these these bozos don't

1351
01:18:52,050 --> 01:18:53,670
even know what's happening to
him.

1352
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,090
You have to be in things like
connected cars. And for what,

1353
01:18:57,420 --> 01:19:00,150
for those of you don't know what
that is, this is really about

1354
01:19:00,330 --> 01:19:03,210
all of the auto manufacturers
are now basically embedding

1355
01:19:03,210 --> 01:19:05,910
internet radios into their cars.

1356
01:19:05,940 --> 01:19:08,940
This is good news for us, by the
way, except is bad news for

1357
01:19:08,940 --> 01:19:09,330
them.

1358
01:19:10,380 --> 01:19:14,580
So if you watched, you know, if
you watch a lot of shows with

1359
01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:18,750
car ads, right now, they're all
about the information systems.

1360
01:19:18,750 --> 01:19:21,240
You know, it's Pandora and
Google and has nothing to do

1361
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,570
with the cars. It's kind of like
they're gonna pour lattes for

1362
01:19:24,570 --> 01:19:29,550
you in your car. But it's all
about information systems. And

1363
01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:32,850
so what we did is about a year
ago, we hopped on this and did a

1364
01:19:32,850 --> 01:19:35,130
deal with Ford as our first
partner.

1365
01:19:35,370 --> 01:19:37,920
There's your there's your little
partnership, your little

1366
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,240
fascistic partnership

1367
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:45,330
to make sure that public radio
and NPR had a voice activated

1368
01:19:45,330 --> 01:19:48,180
command in those cars. So if you
come in, you can go Morning

1369
01:19:48,180 --> 01:19:51,750
Edition and it will pull up the
last version of Morning Edition

1370
01:19:52,050 --> 01:19:57,030
at two o'clock in the app, two
o'clock in the afternoon. Or if

1371
01:19:57,030 --> 01:20:01,050
you want to hear just science
segments, you It will pull down

1372
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,980
the last 10 Science segments
that appeared on Morning. Only

1373
01:20:05,010 --> 01:20:10,110
in this is this is, I think the
thing that was, to me the most

1374
01:20:10,110 --> 01:20:14,310
novel in this as you can sit in
your car in Boston and ask for

1375
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:19,350
programming from WBEZ in
Chicago. So you can, if you can

1376
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:23,670
both time travel and travel
geographically across the

1377
01:20:23,670 --> 01:20:24,180
network.

1378
01:20:24,210 --> 01:20:27,720
Yeah. Which then creates all
kinds of issues around the

1379
01:20:28,020 --> 01:20:31,800
business model. Exactly. Yeah,
well, this is a problem they've

1380
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,950
had since the get go. In fact,
this is a problem you've noted

1381
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:39,330
on the Dish Network and other
places other these systems cable

1382
01:20:39,330 --> 01:20:42,720
systems can do it is that you
can't In fact, they try to keep

1383
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,240
you from doing it as best they
can. But you know, it's

1384
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,560
shoveling crap against the tide,
because there's people if I'm

1385
01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:53,490
from Seattle, and I moved to San
Francisco, and I have a dish

1386
01:20:53,490 --> 01:20:57,360
network connection, there's no
reason in the world that they

1387
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,930
can just give me the feed from
the Seattle stations. It's very

1388
01:21:00,930 --> 01:21:05,340
doable. It's on the same bird.
But they won't do it because

1389
01:21:05,340 --> 01:21:07,530
there's only because the
stations Oh, god, you're gonna

1390
01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:11,340
kill us. But the other there's
two arguments here, then maybe

1391
01:21:11,340 --> 01:21:15,480
you could shed some light on the
confusion, because it's always

1392
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:20,040
confused me. And like, I was
like, I'm a station in Jersey.

1393
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:23,220
I've got my rates. I got my
local audience. I know

1394
01:21:23,220 --> 01:21:25,380
everything. I know my numbers. I
know my local numbers. I know

1395
01:21:25,380 --> 01:21:29,730
everything. And I'm selling ads
to these people and for the

1396
01:21:29,730 --> 01:21:34,080
local market, right? The cable
companies so let's say cable,

1397
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,150
let's say the Dish Network,
let's say any of them. They

1398
01:21:36,150 --> 01:21:39,720
grabbed my signal the jersey
signal from you know, w x x x,

1399
01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:43,140
and they send it all over the
place that say bars Georgia, to

1400
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:47,070
Texas or to California. The
station will squawk about it.

1401
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:51,420
Oh, why would the station squawk
about it when it's giving their

1402
01:21:51,420 --> 01:21:52,980
advertisers? Three? Okay,

1403
01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:56,490
stop, stop. Okay, first of all,
I am not going to talk about

1404
01:21:56,490 --> 01:21:59,430
Dish Network. I'm going to talk
about NPR specifically because

1405
01:21:59,430 --> 01:22:02,580
that is what we're talking about
is that if we have competition,

1406
01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:07,710
it's NPR. NPR if you turn on
you, and so these are all local

1407
01:22:07,710 --> 01:22:11,850
stations, that the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting or

1408
01:22:11,850 --> 01:22:15,150
whatever it is, as a company is
a for profit company that sells

1409
01:22:15,150 --> 01:22:19,830
the ads, but really is managing
all of the money before the you

1410
01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:23,160
know the the government money
that they get some there's no

1411
01:22:23,190 --> 01:22:27,570
there's some corporate big time,
you know, foundation stuff that

1412
01:22:27,570 --> 01:22:31,530
comes in. But that seems to be
dwindling. And they order the

1413
01:22:31,530 --> 01:22:35,880
national programming. All these
other stations are all locally

1414
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:41,190
owned and operated. And they
sell spots in a local market. If

1415
01:22:41,190 --> 01:22:46,380
you listen to NPR, you're not
hearing very many national ads.

1416
01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:51,450
In fact, very, very few. And
it's all advertising. So yes,

1417
01:22:51,630 --> 01:22:55,230
this No, no, no, no, no. Hear me
out. I know this shit really?

1418
01:22:55,230 --> 01:22:55,830
Well, John,

1419
01:22:55,860 --> 01:22:59,760
I know I hear nothing but no,
no, no, you will hear on

1420
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,330
a national show, which is one of
the because you have all these

1421
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,420
small, locally produced
programs, which are not national

1422
01:23:06,420 --> 01:23:10,170
ads. You will hear thanks the
bill and gates, Bill and Melinda

1423
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:13,860
Gates Foundation, you'll hear a
couple a couple of other

1424
01:23:13,860 --> 01:23:17,820
foundation grants, people just
like you, John, they're all

1425
01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:21,840
local ads, I'm telling you, it
is 80% local ads on these

1426
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,980
stations, except for the big
shows that you might listen to

1427
01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:29,640
that Morning Edition, you might
catch that or god forbid Car

1428
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,170
Talk, then you'll have a couple
of national ads, the majority of

1429
01:23:34,170 --> 01:23:37,680
what these stations run on their
money, because they're not

1430
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,870
getting anything from the from
the National ads. They don't

1431
01:23:39,870 --> 01:23:43,290
have to pay for the programming
to they get the free Morning

1432
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,320
Morning Edition. And then
there's national ads in there

1433
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,850
and they get a spot open for
their local ads. There is no

1434
01:23:50,850 --> 01:23:54,540
organization isn't NPR is not
one big group. They're dead in

1435
01:23:54,540 --> 01:23:58,290
the water. Because the little
guys can only sell local ads and

1436
01:23:58,290 --> 01:23:59,190
that's dwindling.

1437
01:24:04,710 --> 01:24:07,200
This is where you're supposed to
say so I'm not

1438
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,350
going to use the word so so so
it's just blank.

1439
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:17,520
They let's they are dead because
they're you know, and then the

1440
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,330
local guy your wants your money.
The local guy wants to say

1441
01:24:21,330 --> 01:24:21,810
something

1442
01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:28,050
about your yakking away. Yeah,
you're right. Okay. What you're

1443
01:24:28,050 --> 01:24:32,160
saying is that they can't stand
competition.

1444
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,540
When I'm saying you boil it
down. No, that's not what I'm

1445
01:24:36,540 --> 01:24:39,750
saying what I'm saying that's
what I'm not what you you asked

1446
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:45,180
rhetorically. What I'm saying.
Yeah, is that there is no longer

1447
01:24:45,180 --> 01:24:51,630
a need for broadcast networks.
This is inherently against the

1448
01:24:51,630 --> 01:24:55,800
distribution method and ad
networks that we are now

1449
01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:01,050
utilizing. There is no need. In
fact, it is a dream mean on all

1450
01:25:01,050 --> 01:25:04,890
of the combined resources, where
it used to be in a single in a

1451
01:25:04,890 --> 01:25:08,400
single distribution system
where, where you have a license,

1452
01:25:08,610 --> 01:25:11,730
and you're the only one that can
broadcast and with cable that

1453
01:25:11,730 --> 01:25:14,820
started to pilfer out a little
bit, but it's still limited by

1454
01:25:14,820 --> 01:25:17,430
how many channels can be
carried. And you know, and

1455
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:23,700
channel number, etc, etc,
bandwidth that made sense to be

1456
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:27,120
rolled up into a network, it is
the inverse now, which is the

1457
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:32,100
only reason why we're going to
hopefully survive, if we can

1458
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:34,590
still get our emails through
Gmail will be okay.

1459
01:25:35,970 --> 01:25:39,270
But the dead so sure if you take
your logical argument to an

1460
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:42,720
extreme, I'm not so sure it's
good for anybody. Because what

1461
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,440
it sounds like to me using what
you said, and I'm not going to

1462
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:49,440
argue the finer points of this
because I think you're generally

1463
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:53,520
correct. But if everything is
going to consolidate into

1464
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,300
national broadcasters that are
taking only national ads,

1465
01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:59,670
because the local guys can
compete with the quality of

1466
01:25:59,670 --> 01:26:01,650
those things, and I believe, by
the way, this could happen to

1467
01:26:01,650 --> 01:26:04,710
education, especially online
education, because if you can

1468
01:26:04,710 --> 01:26:07,080
take a history course from the
best historian who really knows

1469
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,590
his stuff, why would you take a
course on some schlub? That's a

1470
01:26:10,590 --> 01:26:14,010
local guy. So let's let's start
consolidating everything. Well,

1471
01:26:14,010 --> 01:26:17,280
that means you get you get
completely trampled as a little

1472
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,300
guy trying to even if you're
competing, because you're gonna

1473
01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:25,680
get cut out? No. You're not
gonna get you know, you say

1474
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,920
what's great for us to be on the
fort. They'll just, there's,

1475
01:26:29,130 --> 01:26:31,710
here's what happens. It happened
with cable versus the

1476
01:26:31,710 --> 01:26:34,890
terrestrial, which is like, you
had to pay to do it one way they

1477
01:26:34,890 --> 01:26:37,440
were doing you're doing
everybody a favor with CCTV when

1478
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,050
it began when cable Yeah, well,
I'm doing you a favor. And then

1479
01:26:40,050 --> 01:26:42,000
next thing you know, and I'm
charging you Yeah, I'm giving

1480
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,400
you extra coverage, you're gonna
have to pay me. And that's what

1481
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,840
happened with the Time Warner.

1482
01:26:46,469 --> 01:26:49,439
I think they want more money.
Yep, you're misunderstanding

1483
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,739
something that is already
happening in affiliate. If so if

1484
01:26:52,739 --> 01:26:57,059
you want to put if you want to
syndicate a television show, and

1485
01:26:57,059 --> 01:26:59,759
you go to all the local
affiliates, they're now saying,

1486
01:26:59,789 --> 01:27:02,249
oh, yeah, we'll take your show.
You have to pay us to be on and

1487
01:27:02,249 --> 01:27:04,829
you can sell your own damn
commercials. But I'm talking

1488
01:27:04,829 --> 01:27:07,979
about Internet distribution
podcasts, like what we're doing

1489
01:27:07,979 --> 01:27:11,759
right now. That's where that's
where the future is. But there's

1490
01:27:11,759 --> 01:27:15,419
never gonna we're never going to
be rich. Never. Never ever, are

1491
01:27:15,419 --> 01:27:18,659
we going to be rich from this.
It's okay. We'll get by. But

1492
01:27:18,659 --> 01:27:21,629
we're not going to be rich. But
there's there is no stopping us

1493
01:27:21,629 --> 01:27:26,039
in this model, if you remove the
advertising from it, but I think

1494
01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:29,399
all these other guys are fucked.
They truly are.

1495
01:27:29,820 --> 01:27:33,960
They're totally hosed. There's
no doubt about it. For a lot of

1496
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,770
different reasons, I think yours
is just one of many. But they

1497
01:27:37,770 --> 01:27:41,910
also just transcendence is
really opening up the you know,

1498
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:43,950
the wall what you

1499
01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:46,860
what you know, but that's not
what I'm saying. I'm not saying

1500
01:27:46,860 --> 01:27:51,930
smaller shows, I'm saying that
the idea of a network with you

1501
01:27:51,930 --> 01:27:53,370
that is Dead is dead.

1502
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,480
And no one doesn't make any
sense for it to exist. If you

1503
01:27:57,480 --> 01:27:58,740
think about it. Yes. And

1504
01:27:58,740 --> 01:28:02,910
that's why the guys bailing.
That's right. That's my point.

1505
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:06,720
The guy's like, holy crap. This
thing is coming down. I'm

1506
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:12,960
bailing out. Funny how no one's
reporting on it. All right. We

1507
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:17,490
got a couple of tweets about the
about Gibraltar.

1508
01:28:18,419 --> 01:28:21,629
Yeah, yeah. Did you look into
it? Yeah, I did. What's going

1509
01:28:21,629 --> 01:28:21,899
on?

1510
01:28:22,139 --> 01:28:25,109
Well, it's really it's really
simple. The Straits of

1511
01:28:25,109 --> 01:28:29,459
Gibraltar. Everyone, please go
to maps.google.com Right now, I

1512
01:28:29,459 --> 01:28:31,709
want you to do, John, let's do
that together. It's always fun

1513
01:28:31,709 --> 01:28:36,149
to do that. Okay. And this is
something that's unfortunately

1514
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:42,479
just isn't done. isn't done
anymore. Okay, so maps that to

1515
01:28:42,779 --> 01:28:48,779
you. They're no really hard is
that you can also go to

1516
01:28:48,779 --> 01:28:50,429
maps.yahoo.com If you

1517
01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:56,370
promise I put in naps, naps.
naps.google.com. And there's no

1518
01:28:56,370 --> 01:28:59,040
apparently no initiative going
on at Google to do that helps

1519
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:00,570
people with naps.

1520
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:08,670
All right, and then let's enter
Gibraltar. Okay. All right. And

1521
01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:12,870
you'll have to zoom out a little
bit. And what do we see what is

1522
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:13,650
the striking

1523
01:29:13,650 --> 01:29:16,440
at a bunch of stuff in
California Cafe Gibraltar.

1524
01:29:17,220 --> 01:29:20,370
Ventura, California. There's
something called trips somebody

1525
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,070
are taking trips and so I got I
did not get to try

1526
01:29:23,070 --> 01:29:26,130
again. Try again. It should be
it should be. Just like

1527
01:29:26,130 --> 01:29:27,750
Gibraltar. It's I actually put

1528
01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:31,680
straight so Joe snowing at the
straits cafe in San Jose. This

1529
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:35,940
is great as Google. I got
straits Cafe Singapore, I got

1530
01:29:35,940 --> 01:29:40,080
straits cafe in Palo Alto. So
straight to Gibraltar doesn't

1531
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:45,180
work. Let's see. What else could
I do? Because your browser

1532
01:29:45,180 --> 01:29:49,740
doesn't work and strange. It
keeps me in California. And I'm

1533
01:29:49,740 --> 01:29:51,090
not even signed in just to

1534
01:29:51,090 --> 01:29:56,970
Gibraltar and don't be so just
get there. Get there already, or

1535
01:29:56,970 --> 01:29:59,700
answered this question to me
Look, and I'm like what is it

1536
01:29:59,730 --> 01:30:03,180
what is the significance of the
Strait of Gibraltar what happens

1537
01:30:03,180 --> 01:30:03,870
there?

1538
01:30:04,110 --> 01:30:06,270
Oh, I'm sure oil tankers go
through.

1539
01:30:06,810 --> 01:30:11,070
Well look at what does it
connect? Nevermind, I'm young,

1540
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:13,770
you should I'm looking at it.
You're playing dumb with me, the

1541
01:30:13,770 --> 01:30:16,680
Straits of Gibraltar, which is
between the southern part of

1542
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,380
Spain and the northern part of
Casablanca, which is a British

1543
01:30:19,380 --> 01:30:22,590
protectorate. It doesn't belong
to Spain, the Brits, and this

1544
01:30:22,590 --> 01:30:28,230
has been an ongoing dispute for
centuries since 1700s. It

1545
01:30:28,230 --> 01:30:33,780
connects the Atlantic Ocean with
the Mediterranean. So if you

1546
01:30:33,780 --> 01:30:36,780
need to get a warship in there,
I don't know like a Russian

1547
01:30:36,780 --> 01:30:39,420
warship. Or if you need to get
some males, because you're going

1548
01:30:39,420 --> 01:30:43,200
over to you know, Northern
Africa, Libya, Egypt is real,

1549
01:30:43,470 --> 01:30:44,430
you know. Okay, so

1550
01:30:44,430 --> 01:30:47,070
what's your point? What, what

1551
01:30:47,070 --> 01:30:49,920
what is what is happening right
now in the Straits of Gibraltar,

1552
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:54,510
WarGames, with British warships,
they're positioning their

1553
01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:55,260
position

1554
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:56,250
to take over

1555
01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:59,040
Gibraltar, they already own no
getting in there, because the

1556
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,050
war is going to be in the
Mediterranean.

1557
01:31:01,620 --> 01:31:05,370
You're you're predicting a war.
So you think that this action in

1558
01:31:05,370 --> 01:31:06,150
Gibraltar is

1559
01:31:06,180 --> 01:31:09,300
there's Russian subs already in
the Mediterranean Sea, the only

1560
01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:12,030
other place they can go, which
is why the US is still providing

1561
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:16,170
aid to Egypt, is through the
Suez Canal. So there's only

1562
01:31:16,170 --> 01:31:20,160
really two ways in you got to
have both of them. So remember,

1563
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,880
this is all about British and
American Oil and Gas interests.

1564
01:31:23,970 --> 01:31:26,460
So they're putting all their
chips there and the Russians

1565
01:31:26,460 --> 01:31:29,850
aren't there with their subs?
This is big. Yeah, yeah, I'll

1566
01:31:29,850 --> 01:31:34,230
say fine. I'm looking at the
map. So Gibraltar's this little

1567
01:31:35,010 --> 01:31:38,400
dot, that sitting there that's
got nothing to do with it. It's

1568
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,340
not even the closest thing to
the straight itself, which is

1569
01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:42,210
terrifying.

1570
01:31:43,260 --> 01:31:49,410
But who runs who runs the
streets? Gibraltar is its own

1571
01:31:50,670 --> 01:31:55,590
its own state, essentially. But
if you look at the history of

1572
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:59,550
Gibraltar, which is, you know,
it's been a protected of the use

1573
01:31:59,580 --> 01:32:03,780
of the of the Brits. This is all
about controlling the access to

1574
01:32:03,780 --> 01:32:06,900
what goes in and comes out of
the Straits of Gibraltar for the

1575
01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:10,170
forthcoming crap that is going
down, that would probably won't

1576
01:32:10,170 --> 01:32:11,700
even be reported on.

1577
01:32:12,690 --> 01:32:17,070
Well, we've seen plenty of that.
All right,

1578
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:22,380
then. And we have Russian
submarines, now in the

1579
01:32:22,380 --> 01:32:28,680
Mediterranean Sea. And we have
the largest gas deposits found

1580
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:33,870
ever All right, they're in the
Mediterranean, Cyprus, Greece,

1581
01:32:34,140 --> 01:32:40,470
Turkey. Now this is this is this
is all a part of a bigger game.

1582
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:42,690
It is not just so when you're
reading something about

1583
01:32:42,690 --> 01:32:45,090
Gibraltar, and I would quite
frankly, I was also like, just

1584
01:32:45,090 --> 01:32:47,370
like, look that whatever
Gibraltar gives a crap. I don't

1585
01:32:47,370 --> 01:32:50,340
know what's going on there. Is
that near Marbella, where people

1586
01:32:50,430 --> 01:32:54,000
go on vacation? But then when
you see that there's warships

1587
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:54,780
there now?

1588
01:32:55,620 --> 01:32:58,470
Yeah, but let's say Gibraltar
was taken over by the Spanish.

1589
01:32:58,650 --> 01:33:01,950
Would that make any difference?
With the Spanish Co Op? Just

1590
01:33:01,950 --> 01:33:02,910
we're cutting it off?

1591
01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:04,110
What What if it was finished?

1592
01:33:04,110 --> 01:33:05,430
You're on the same side.

1593
01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:13,800
Here, but what if? So what if
really, if Spain melts down into

1594
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,860
disarray? Well, that could
happen, which could happen at

1595
01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:19,350
any time and they're even
talking about the southern half

1596
01:33:19,350 --> 01:33:24,240
of Spain, reverting back to
Africa. Then what No, no, I

1597
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,820
think you do not want you want
to preempt that by setting up

1598
01:33:26,820 --> 01:33:29,640
your big ass ships, right?
They're saying hey, whatever

1599
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,460
happens you know, we're here and
we're holding down the fort

1600
01:33:32,460 --> 01:33:34,590
literally. And don't forget you
have the other side which is

1601
01:33:34,590 --> 01:33:42,360
Morocco. That's all Africa.
That's a whole different world

1602
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:42,720
there.

1603
01:33:46,050 --> 01:33:48,750
Well, now I'm going to keep
looking into this there's

1604
01:33:48,750 --> 01:33:52,080
something there definitely is
action going on there. That's

1605
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:52,950
for sure. Action

1606
01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:59,190
is ships at sea. Ships at sea,
my friend. And it is the same

1607
01:33:59,190 --> 01:34:04,200
with the I'm convinced that the
Suez Canal that that's the only

1608
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,530
reason we haven't you know,
withdrawn from Egypt is just

1609
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:11,580
just to keep just to keep that.
And we can't we can't say Oh,

1610
01:34:11,580 --> 01:34:14,130
well, nevermind, Egypt, screw
you, and then just have the Suez

1611
01:34:14,130 --> 01:34:17,100
Canal fall into whoever's hands.
The what the Muslim Brotherhood.

1612
01:34:18,450 --> 01:34:20,100
You want them running the Suez
Canal.

1613
01:34:21,390 --> 01:34:25,860
Nobody wants them. Nobody wants
anyone besides our side right.

1614
01:34:26,430 --> 01:34:29,400
Now, did you see that mock tar
bow mock tar is back

1615
01:34:29,790 --> 01:34:34,230
at that he's dead. No, he's
back. No, no, no, no, he's dead.

1616
01:34:34,230 --> 01:34:35,520
He's killed. He's dead.

1617
01:34:35,550 --> 01:34:36,360
Oh, he's back.

1618
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,970
I rocked our mock tar them
smoking man.

1619
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:43,020
the Marlboro Man. He's back. He
wasn't dead. Here.

1620
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,920
Oh, they had to wait. Somebody
says somebody. The memo says

1621
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,650
hey, wait a minute. We're not
supposed to kill this guy yet

1622
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:50,070
here.

1623
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,270
The one eyed terror leader mock
Tarbell mocked are considered by

1624
01:34:54,270 --> 01:34:57,570
many to be the most dangerous
man in the Sahara is now

1625
01:34:57,570 --> 01:35:01,140
officially joining forces with a
molly Bay. He's jihadist group

1626
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,470
and vowing to support Islamist
in Egypt according to a

1627
01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:07,950
statement posted on Thursday,
this is site si te this these

1628
01:35:07,950 --> 01:35:11,580
are the guys who translate the
al Qaeda videos. Okay, those

1629
01:35:11,580 --> 01:35:14,250
guys, those guys the
announcement of the Alliance

1630
01:35:14,250 --> 01:35:18,630
known as the Mora Betony is
formalized as an emerging union

1631
01:35:18,630 --> 01:35:22,320
between Bell MK tars followers
and the group known as mu Zhao,

1632
01:35:22,500 --> 01:35:26,370
or movement for oneness and
jihad in West Africa. Their

1633
01:35:26,370 --> 01:35:30,360
comments were carried by the
nuke chat Information Agency,

1634
01:35:30,540 --> 01:35:35,940
the NIA, ma Rishi and site
previously used by Bell, MK dar

1635
01:35:36,030 --> 01:35:42,330
to convey messages. So he's
back. And the two groups said

1636
01:35:42,330 --> 01:35:45,660
they have decided to, quote
confront the Zionist campaign

1637
01:35:45,660 --> 01:35:49,500
against Islam and the Muslims,
by uniting jihadist from the

1638
01:35:49,500 --> 01:35:54,450
Nile to the Atlantic spanning
all of Northern Africa. This is

1639
01:35:54,450 --> 01:35:57,390
good stuff for a fairy tale,

1640
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,890
a tall fairy tale, but who was
the guy that they killed, they

1641
01:36:01,890 --> 01:36:03,150
said was muck tar,

1642
01:36:03,180 --> 01:36:05,310
there was there was a guy who
reported

1643
01:36:05,310 --> 01:36:07,710
that on this show, about a year
ago,

1644
01:36:07,710 --> 01:36:09,930
but he's he's been killed a
couple times, I think on this

1645
01:36:09,930 --> 01:36:17,040
show. It's fun. It's fun.

1646
01:36:19,110 --> 01:36:24,990
So that's Egypt. That's Egypt.
And then, of course, we have

1647
01:36:24,990 --> 01:36:32,460
good news, all aboard trains,
planes bad. Now, although it's

1648
01:36:32,460 --> 01:36:35,460
not really a big airline, I'm
going to give it to you as a red

1649
01:36:35,460 --> 01:36:39,630
book entry. Samaha air has
started charging as passengers

1650
01:36:39,630 --> 01:36:41,220
by the pound as you predicted.

1651
01:36:41,580 --> 01:36:42,480
Thank you very much.

1652
01:36:42,510 --> 01:36:46,590
Yes, Red Book. by John C. Dvorak
airline generally fly smaller

1653
01:36:46,590 --> 01:36:52,020
aircraft. So you know, there's
that. But passengers and their

1654
01:36:52,020 --> 01:36:57,060
luggage will now be weighed
together to determine how much

1655
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:57,930
they're going to be paying.

1656
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:04,290
What airline is this? SAMOA air?
Oh, for God's sake. Have you

1657
01:37:04,290 --> 01:37:06,720
ever seen a Samoan? Yeah, that.

1658
01:37:09,450 --> 01:37:12,270
That's now you mentioned it. No
wonder.

1659
01:37:12,660 --> 01:37:14,070
Yeah, they had to do that.

1660
01:37:14,849 --> 01:37:17,489
But it was a red book
prediction. And this is just the

1661
01:37:17,489 --> 01:37:20,189
start. And now it'll be used as
a model moving forward,

1662
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,520
at least as a precedent you
know, although the precedent is

1663
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:36,150
pretty dubious, some Samoa Hi,
guys, how are you? Hey, go Oh,

1664
01:37:36,150 --> 01:37:39,360
man. All right. Well, I got
something. Yeah. Roll it,

1665
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:44,700
brother. Let's see. Oh, well,
there's this. So I got to watch.

1666
01:37:45,450 --> 01:37:47,400
Al Jazeera America. Oh,

1667
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,940
yes. I saw. Now they're not on
my cable system.

1668
01:37:51,330 --> 01:37:53,670
A lot of people have rejected
it. But they're on the Dish

1669
01:37:53,670 --> 01:37:56,670
Network. Okay, this is a
promotion for the Dish Network

1670
01:37:56,670 --> 01:38:00,030
this show was send them a copy
of the show saying hey, did you

1671
01:38:00,030 --> 01:38:00,240
see

1672
01:38:00,270 --> 01:38:03,840
Did you see the opening of the
of the item see that very, very

1673
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,600
opening. But I watched the
domain shows I have been one of

1674
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,330
us supposed to have Soledad
O'Brien. And she hasn't even to

1675
01:38:09,330 --> 01:38:11,250
got really, I had that.

1676
01:38:11,820 --> 01:38:16,050
Girl, I have a clip of that did
something really good because I

1677
01:38:16,110 --> 01:38:19,230
know they had kind of this
bombastic opening of we're

1678
01:38:19,230 --> 01:38:20,190
great. We have

1679
01:38:20,190 --> 01:38:22,920
a million IQ all that stuff. Did
you see that? I'm showing that

1680
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:23,490
throughout the day,

1681
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,970
the one with the head Hillary
and McCain in there. I missed

1682
01:38:26,970 --> 01:38:33,540
that we played this for you.
With a rich mix of content from

1683
01:38:33,540 --> 01:38:37,080
home and around the world, Al
Jazeera America's journalistic

1684
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,320
integrity knows no borders
delivering broadcast excellence

1685
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:44,640
across news, documentary and
current affairs. She agreed to

1686
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,970
give his entire medical files to
AlJazeera for this exclusive

1687
01:38:47,970 --> 01:38:51,330
investigation, using his close
to the paramedics cut off.

1688
01:38:51,900 --> 01:38:55,590
It is really effective. And in
fact, viewership of Al Jazeera

1689
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:59,460
is going up in the United States
because it's real news connects

1690
01:38:59,460 --> 01:39:02,610
the world to America and
Americans to the world.

1691
01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:07,980
What else is your has done is
achieved something that all of

1692
01:39:07,980 --> 01:39:12,000
us I think want to achieve, and
that is to make a contribution.

1693
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:18,000
They have pulled those to
context and made it sound like

1694
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,850
they're promoting AlJazeera
which I think is just illegal

1695
01:39:20,850 --> 01:39:21,360
by the way,

1696
01:39:21,389 --> 01:39:22,319
but doesn't matter.

1697
01:39:22,799 --> 01:39:26,729
Applause Good job. Good job by
we had that clip of Hillary

1698
01:39:26,729 --> 01:39:29,519
saying that and find it fun or
rather baffling. But

1699
01:39:29,940 --> 01:39:32,640
yeah, but she was she was three
years ago. Yeah, but she was not

1700
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:36,090
saying it to promote AlJazeera
she was saying, you know, saying

1701
01:39:36,090 --> 01:39:39,450
we need to get better propaganda
than them is what she was saying

1702
01:39:39,540 --> 01:39:43,740
pretty much time. But anyway, so
I'm watching this I do have a

1703
01:39:43,740 --> 01:39:46,620
short clip because they did do
one thing they tried to go after

1704
01:39:46,650 --> 01:39:49,380
try play the Haiti clip and just
listen to the intro and listen

1705
01:39:49,380 --> 01:39:52,890
to the sound. It's a very, it's
not a very good sound.

1706
01:39:53,190 --> 01:39:56,460
Well, 1000s were killed and 10s
of 1000s made sick by the

1707
01:39:56,460 --> 01:39:59,730
cholera epidemic that swept
through Haiti two years ago. The

1708
01:39:59,730 --> 01:40:02,010
sign Typically, evidence seems
pretty conclusive.

1709
01:40:02,220 --> 01:40:04,800
The strain appears to have come
from a United Nations

1710
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,460
peacekeeping base. But the UN
has refused to even consider

1711
01:40:08,460 --> 01:40:12,270
compensating the victims. Wait a
minute. So these guys like are

1712
01:40:12,270 --> 01:40:15,330
taking our show notes. And then,
you know, from two years ago and

1713
01:40:15,330 --> 01:40:16,590
turning it into programming,

1714
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:19,800
well, there's that. But they did
they did they do a little

1715
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:23,370
better, because they have this
one guy who actually becomes a

1716
01:40:23,370 --> 01:40:29,550
stalker, with banky moon. So he
tracks him down. Because he goes

1717
01:40:29,550 --> 01:40:32,100
to Haiti. They did. There's
money here and this AlJazeera

1718
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:34,650
operation compared to what we
get a tongue, it's tons of

1719
01:40:34,650 --> 01:40:37,440
money. And so the guys flies to
Haiti, and he flies here, and he

1720
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:39,450
flies there. And then he reports
the whole thing from San

1721
01:40:39,450 --> 01:40:43,560
Francisco. Where is it a bar.
Anyway, he's goes to New York to

1722
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:46,170
go because he shows all these
sad stories of people with

1723
01:40:46,170 --> 01:40:48,900
cholera. And they also mentioned
in this piece, it's very long

1724
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:52,590
piece, but it's very, very
interesting that Hades never had

1725
01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:56,040
cholera in its history. And so
they track it down this UN guy,

1726
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,010
so the UN refuses to take
responsibility. So he goes in

1727
01:40:59,010 --> 01:41:03,120
New York and tracks down banky
Moon tracks him down. He gets to

1728
01:41:03,780 --> 01:41:04,770
ambush we weren't

1729
01:41:04,770 --> 01:41:06,720
able to do that. That's kind of
can't afford

1730
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:10,050
it. We do it. Yeah, of course.
Yes. I mean, Ban Ki Moon goes

1731
01:41:10,050 --> 01:41:12,900
on. Oh, no, I think it's fine.
If you've got any more

1732
01:41:12,900 --> 01:41:16,410
questions, talk to my the
attorneys of the UN. So then he

1733
01:41:16,410 --> 01:41:18,390
gets on the phone, he tries to
call them and they all

1734
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:21,360
stonewalled. They won't talk to
him. So he goes and tracks down

1735
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:26,490
banky moon again finds him a
second time corners him and he's

1736
01:41:26,490 --> 01:41:30,210
got two bodyguards with him. And
the one bodyguard you know, he

1737
01:41:30,210 --> 01:41:32,310
says, Well, you just said to
call these guys they won't take

1738
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:37,170
my call. And but one by big body
guy holds them back. It says

1739
01:41:37,170 --> 01:41:42,330
hey, we've talked enough to you
and they strong arms the guy so

1740
01:41:42,330 --> 01:41:46,230
they very revealing was very
good. But here's the problem

1741
01:41:46,230 --> 01:41:48,540
with the show. It's for one
thing of course it's you know,

1742
01:41:48,540 --> 01:41:51,750
they just started but think
they've dropped a bunch of

1743
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:56,520
feeds, they go to a sci fi
that's dead and the sound is

1744
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:57,540
very

1745
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,070
amateur amateur. It's no there's
no compression. It sounds really

1746
01:42:02,130 --> 01:42:04,200
compression. It doesn't sound
like it doesn't sound like a

1747
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,590
network show at all. It sounds
like it's settled and she'll say

1748
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:10,500
picked up on the sound. I said
this sounds like local and then

1749
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:14,730
I started looking at the
presentation. It looks kgvo

1750
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,930
Channel Seven in San Francisco
is better is better. It's got a

1751
01:42:18,930 --> 01:42:21,840
better presentation. It's got a
better sound. It's got better

1752
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:26,430
lighting than this has got a
really cheap sound they don't

1753
01:42:26,430 --> 01:42:27,090
have a good sound I

1754
01:42:27,090 --> 01:42:29,730
really want to watch this I'm
upset that you can't get a

1755
01:42:29,730 --> 01:42:33,840
streaming and and Time Warner
doesn't carry it. Now tell me

1756
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:34,530
this because by

1757
01:42:34,530 --> 01:42:39,300
the way, by the way, at&t said
it refuses to carry meaning that

1758
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:42,030
they're pulling an extortion
stunt if they all of a sudden

1759
01:42:42,030 --> 01:42:44,700
start carrying course of course
it's all it's all government

1760
01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:47,040
allowing this extortion well
hold on a

1761
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:51,210
second. This is you know, if you
want to be carried then you have

1762
01:42:51,210 --> 01:42:56,730
to pay this is how it works. And
the only reason Current TV was

1763
01:42:56,730 --> 01:43:01,350
on cable systems at all is
because they bought an outfit

1764
01:43:01,380 --> 01:43:06,030
that had the certified slots
they'd already pre paid and I'm

1765
01:43:06,030 --> 01:43:10,980
pretty convinced that this is
why Gore decided to sell first

1766
01:43:10,980 --> 01:43:13,530
of all you had a buyer for any
you gotta buy or for anything

1767
01:43:13,530 --> 01:43:16,200
piece of crap like that you
gotta go go go sell now,

1768
01:43:16,650 --> 01:43:20,190
particularly the reported 100
million, which I don't believe I

1769
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:22,380
don't either. And so that, you
know, these contracts are

1770
01:43:22,380 --> 01:43:26,130
running out. And it's expensive,
you know, you got to pay one at

1771
01:43:26,130 --> 01:43:30,210
least $1 per subscriber so it's
very, very expensive to keep

1772
01:43:30,210 --> 01:43:33,420
something on the air like this
with no real revenues and is now

1773
01:43:33,420 --> 01:43:37,410
it's just a propaganda machine.
And these guys ATT Uverse by the

1774
01:43:37,410 --> 01:43:39,990
way, you know, it's just, it's,
you know, they have 5 million

1775
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:43,410
subscribers Big whoop. And they
have every right to say, oh,

1776
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:46,950
yeah, you want to be on our
system pass like everybody else.

1777
01:43:46,980 --> 01:43:50,130
That is the model which is now
also falling apart. My question

1778
01:43:50,130 --> 01:43:53,730
for you. Is Young Turks still
on? Did they carry over any of

1779
01:43:53,730 --> 01:43:54,750
that programming carried

1780
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:59,010
over? Nothing is all those guys
are out of business? Yeah. Well,

1781
01:43:59,010 --> 01:44:04,290
Young Turk made his move chunk,
chunk made his move to to online

1782
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:08,850
at least six months ago. He had
moved to show Yeah, forget

1783
01:44:08,850 --> 01:44:12,150
it. Forget it's not going to
work because it's just not going

1784
01:44:12,150 --> 01:44:12,720
to work I've seen

1785
01:44:13,170 --> 01:44:15,780
the reason it's not going to
work, in my opinion is because

1786
01:44:15,780 --> 01:44:18,750
they still have TV overheads,
even though it's cable. Yeah,

1787
01:44:18,780 --> 01:44:20,670
it's not true network TV
overhead.

1788
01:44:21,210 --> 01:44:23,520
It's worse than that. Now it's
worse and I'll tell you why. So

1789
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,490
they're there. They I've seen it
because I went looking for him.

1790
01:44:26,490 --> 01:44:31,110
I didn't see anything on the
aja. But I did see their young

1791
01:44:31,110 --> 01:44:35,910
turks site and they're saying,
you know, get a subscription for

1792
01:44:35,910 --> 01:44:38,910
$10 So they're not giving
anything away. You can get a

1793
01:44:38,910 --> 01:44:44,490
subscription and then you can
for $10 a month now this mate

1794
01:44:44,490 --> 01:44:48,720
maybe maybe maybe would work for
chunk himself who I'm sure you

1795
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:53,910
know, has now started to live a
lifestyle of a guy on TV, even

1796
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:59,610
cable TV, you're doing 180 Maybe
$200,000 A year and now you're

1797
01:44:59,610 --> 01:45:02,250
living in Jersey wherever he
lives you're driving in I know

1798
01:45:02,250 --> 01:45:05,910
this life. But then all sudden
you got to go to the online

1799
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:09,870
poverty model. And it gets a
little tougher. And the thing is

1800
01:45:09,870 --> 01:45:13,200
he can't pay for the crew. And
these other people they all want

1801
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,840
they don't want to eat too. You
know, he's got these Chickies on

1802
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,210
and his roundtable and they're
gonna walk away.

1803
01:45:18,510 --> 01:45:23,820
No, I'm preaching to the choir
on this one. Yeah, they won't

1804
01:45:23,820 --> 01:45:29,070
work the model for making money
on the internet in this in a

1805
01:45:29,070 --> 01:45:35,940
broadcast, like, scenario. Like
what we're doing requires

1806
01:45:36,090 --> 01:45:37,980
absolute minimalism.

1807
01:45:38,009 --> 01:45:42,029
Yes. I'm not even wearing
clothes.

1808
01:45:42,090 --> 01:45:46,920
We're not going to New York to
track down Bunky moon, we're

1809
01:45:47,700 --> 01:45:49,980
only have a huge staff of
people. We don't have a bunch of

1810
01:45:49,980 --> 01:45:54,810
hot chicks that are badnera
eyes, we got none of that, which

1811
01:45:55,050 --> 01:45:58,080
would have studios, we're doing
it this is the way it has to be

1812
01:45:58,080 --> 01:45:58,500
done.

1813
01:45:58,980 --> 01:46:03,030
This, the studio has, when you
when the cicadas cranking you

1814
01:46:03,030 --> 01:46:04,320
hear them on the air

1815
01:46:04,350 --> 01:46:05,700
here when the train goes by?

1816
01:46:07,620 --> 01:46:10,320
That's right. We don't have
studios. I forgot about that.

1817
01:46:10,500 --> 01:46:13,980
And so he right and fake we
every once in a while because we

1818
01:46:13,980 --> 01:46:16,320
do a very professional
production as far as I'm

1819
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,600
concerned. And we try and
everyone's above his head, well,

1820
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,360
gee, I will Google you go to
work for your operation. I said

1821
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:26,070
we don't. It's not going to
happen. It's just not going to

1822
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:29,370
happen. We don't if we had one
employee that was more than just

1823
01:46:29,370 --> 01:46:32,220
a part timer that does the
spreadsheet and keeps Garrett

1824
01:46:32,220 --> 01:46:35,070
and sends the rings out? Yeah,
we'd be out of business.

1825
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,520
Let me put it this way. If we
didn't have our model, which is

1826
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:41,640
is not a subscription model, we
decided early on to take the

1827
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,150
show, please enjoy. And if it
gives you value, then consider

1828
01:46:45,150 --> 01:46:49,200
giving us some value back if we
didn't have guys like Mr. Oil,

1829
01:46:49,470 --> 01:46:52,980
and get mostly leave, you know,
and void zero, you know,

1830
01:46:53,010 --> 01:46:56,130
couldn't afford the back office,
just the bandwidth alone would

1831
01:46:56,130 --> 01:46:59,130
put us out of business. We
wouldn't be able to do it. We

1832
01:46:59,130 --> 01:47:03,780
can't afford to do this show.
Now that's let me write that one

1833
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:09,420
down. One we can afford to do
this show. Yeah, that's very

1834
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:13,230
good. I'm gonna show my school
by donation to no agenda.

1835
01:47:13,290 --> 01:47:16,050
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be

1836
01:47:16,050 --> 01:47:16,410
fun.

1837
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:26,640
And to prove the point, here's a
very short donation segment.

1838
01:47:26,730 --> 01:47:29,550
We did get some people we didn't
make in the newsletter. Some

1839
01:47:29,550 --> 01:47:32,970
newsletters obviously did get
through and we do have a 66 dot

1840
01:47:32,970 --> 01:47:36,360
66 donation that celebrate our
sixth anniversary coming up at

1841
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:40,500
the end of October. And we did
get I think 17 people that

1842
01:47:40,650 --> 01:47:46,860
said so 17 people responded to
our mailing list of 10s of 1000s

1843
01:47:46,860 --> 01:47:47,250
John

1844
01:47:47,790 --> 01:47:49,800
Jemaine was just 9500.

1845
01:47:51,660 --> 01:47:56,100
Free Tony even had 110s of
1000s. No, that's it. Really?

1846
01:47:56,970 --> 01:47:59,640
Yeah. Ross because he didn't get
the mailing. I mean, hello.

1847
01:47:59,670 --> 01:48:02,160
No, I know. But I thought we
even had a bigger so people

1848
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:05,640
aren't even to our audience, our
vast worldwide audience. We

1849
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,880
don't even have 10,000 people
subscribe to the mailing list.

1850
01:48:09,060 --> 01:48:13,470
Now we have 9500 hits in the
shownotes people tells you where

1851
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:17,520
to sign up for it and and then
and when you sign up for it.

1852
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,500
Make sure you're looking the
promotions tab.

1853
01:48:20,370 --> 01:48:23,970
Yeah, yeah, it's even there. But
we do have some people that

1854
01:48:23,970 --> 01:48:29,790
Thanks sir. chasten rods deals
Ross dealt ski in restaurants

1855
01:48:29,820 --> 01:48:34,650
red desert Red Rock, Rose Raza
deal ski search Jason. Search

1856
01:48:34,650 --> 01:48:39,000
Jason will call him $133.33.
He's in Saskatoon, the Paris of

1857
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:43,830
Canada and Saskatchewan. And he
says $133 for 133 boners. That

1858
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:47,610
didn't donate for this show.
Thank you. And dot 33 Because

1859
01:48:47,610 --> 01:48:51,180
it's the magic number. Thank you
so much. Trillium Smith also

1860
01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:54,540
here with $111.11. Then we
dropped down to Jessica,

1861
01:48:55,290 --> 01:49:00,120
register, register reskin Hill
in Hillsboro, Oregon and ice

1862
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:05,040
winegrowing area $76 Brandon M.
where the money is in 75 bucks

1863
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,260
Alberta, Canada have been
listening for half a year.

1864
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:10,020
Figures time to donate as this
you know, agenda show makes me

1865
01:49:10,020 --> 01:49:15,030
feel like I actually have
friends. Well, you gotta give

1866
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:18,330
him some karma so he can no
longer be a sad virgin. Oh,

1867
01:49:18,330 --> 01:49:19,290
whoa, okay.

1868
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:25,020
You've got karma. Yeah, I got a
note from someone the other day

1869
01:49:25,020 --> 01:49:28,440
who said that he had finally I
don't know why he sent me the

1870
01:49:28,440 --> 01:49:32,040
note. But he's like, you know, I
finally am no longer a virgin.

1871
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:33,270
Thanks. No agenda

1872
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,590
maybe took our advice. I don't
know. ochres Yeah, they

1873
01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:44,700
are. No, no, I don't think so. I
think he was really like,

1874
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:46,800
emotionally happy about it.
Well, that's

1875
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:54,300
good, but yeah, hookers don't do
that. Thomas re here where you

1876
01:49:54,300 --> 01:49:58,890
we have WIA? What do you think
why he that'd be IE or say via

1877
01:49:58,950 --> 01:50:05,430
via V Yeah V 69 Six A's in
Norway, Tom Abell or April in

1878
01:50:05,460 --> 01:50:10,380
Woodley, Berkshire, UK 6969 and
Edward Hines in Jacksonville,

1879
01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:17,880
Florida. And that's it first it
wasn't too was three we had to

1880
01:50:18,030 --> 01:50:23,760
do it so it's actually gone up
one, Philip Smith and Oslo and

1881
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,600
these are the 6660s Oh, these
are all the 6666 Our sixth

1882
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:28,380
anniversary,

1883
01:50:28,380 --> 01:50:34,200
by the way we'll accept 666 66
will accept 6666 will accept

1884
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:38,880
60,000 $606,006.66 which

1885
01:50:39,090 --> 01:50:42,780
we will absolutely Zakka
Morrison rulez in McKinney,

1886
01:50:42,810 --> 01:50:47,100
Texas, Brad Doherty or who's
always coming in thank you from

1887
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:51,060
Brooklyn, New York Elizabeth
burrows in in Tucson Arizona and

1888
01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:56,250
she says Heil boy Oh Elizabeth,
Sir Robert claesson in London.

1889
01:50:57,090 --> 01:50:59,790
Dear no agenda team Some time
ago I introduced my wife to no

1890
01:50:59,790 --> 01:51:02,610
agenda which she now faithfully
listens to and even manages to

1891
01:51:02,610 --> 01:51:06,360
download before I do this is
terribly annoying by itself. But

1892
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,960
even more annoying is that she
one of your black listeners

1893
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:13,710
nowadays? She did that's in
parents just not nowadays. Black

1894
01:51:13,710 --> 01:51:16,980
she's always been black whenever
I pose a different opinion than

1895
01:51:16,980 --> 01:51:23,040
hers can uncertain occasions
shout out Shut up slave at me.

1896
01:51:23,340 --> 01:51:26,220
Wait a minute. So here's the
black chick saying that to the

1897
01:51:26,220 --> 01:51:29,130
white dude. Yeah, my oh my oh
my.

1898
01:51:29,340 --> 01:51:31,530
She needs a birthday. Call it
when you gotta shoot does

1899
01:51:31,530 --> 01:51:33,990
she need some karma is what she
needed. I'm gonna give her that

1900
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:39,480
right now. Beautiful. You've got
karma. Imagine that.

1901
01:51:39,690 --> 01:51:45,420
Shut up slave. Yes, honey. John
Cox and Adkins, Texas says sir

1902
01:51:45,420 --> 01:51:49,980
Dwayne Melanson is always coming
in tie guard or again, can go

1903
01:51:49,980 --> 01:51:55,380
congratulations on your upcoming
seventh season. You know, he'll

1904
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:57,120
give us some more money with
that because he's the Duke of

1905
01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:02,250
mystery. I'm sorry. Robert
Miller 6666 from Seattle,

1906
01:52:02,250 --> 01:52:05,970
Washington anonymous and Holly
Springs, North Carolina. Eric

1907
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,690
Nagel in the numbering

1908
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:14,430
Eric novel, Eric Knakal.
Houghton, Spartanburg,

1909
01:52:14,910 --> 01:52:20,400
maroons, Scholten, Spock and
bird Very good. Sir Robert Gould

1910
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:27,240
in toronto, toronto canada. Sir
market coolin in another COVID

1911
01:52:27,390 --> 01:52:31,800
We serve Market Fit fitness. Was
this Vaden this

1912
01:52:31,980 --> 01:52:35,010
viden this vitamins are Mark
Colin.

1913
01:52:35,490 --> 01:52:38,040
Thanks for all the hours of real
entertainment news. I would go

1914
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:42,870
nuts without you guys. Sir Mark
from Wooster Lee Coast poster

1915
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:47,190
Lake. Oh Sterling oyster lake.
So he says he says

1916
01:52:47,250 --> 01:52:49,920
I have lost my night ring is it
possible to receive order

1917
01:52:49,950 --> 01:52:54,120
replacement I think we have a
last night ring service. No no

1918
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:58,560
agenda nation.com/rings and put
a note in there put a note in

1919
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,960
there you fill out a note for
Eric and Hill don't lose your

1920
01:53:01,140 --> 01:53:02,940
duck redoes the ring

1921
01:53:03,540 --> 01:53:08,580
Corona California been a boner
now a donor is now is the donor

1922
01:53:08,580 --> 01:53:13,380
Bay Chris Abraham in Arlington
Virginia. And finally, last but

1923
01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:21,210
not least Arlington. Arlington.
Hey Arlington. Losing out here.

1924
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:21,750
They don't even

1925
01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:24,810
have to download the podcast to
listen to us. Yes.

1926
01:53:25,530 --> 01:53:30,960
We were staying with downloaded
some money. And finally Baron

1927
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:35,520
Robert Gosh go in Sherwood Park
Alberta says Happy Anniversary

1928
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:39,840
Avon jib and onward we get
Samantha Moser 60 bucks from

1929
01:53:39,870 --> 01:53:45,000
gates Brook Nova Scotia. To
thank us both and Michael

1930
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,400
Randell who hit me in the mouth
a few months ago. This is a

1931
01:53:47,550 --> 01:53:51,120
first knighthood. This is going
to be hard to the kind of name

1932
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:54,630
drives Eric nuts. You know money
coming in from different sources

1933
01:53:54,630 --> 01:54:01,230
for somebody Wilford Kessler in
Lebanon, Pennsylvania. He needs

1934
01:54:01,230 --> 01:54:03,870
to move in Carmel give that at
the end with all the karma and

1935
01:54:03,870 --> 01:54:12,690
Todd Todd LG 5390 Mack harbor
LLC and Sheboygan, Michigan

1936
01:54:16,110 --> 01:54:19,770
okay, it you have to read that
and see if it's something we're

1937
01:54:19,770 --> 01:54:24,150
supposed to read or not read by
Eric V. In Dublin, California.

1938
01:54:24,150 --> 01:54:28,470
50 bucks. These are all 50 Kyle
Bower Parts Unknown dad and grab

1939
01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:32,040
in Lansdale, Pennsylvania. And
finally, last but not least,

1940
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:37,380
Matthew moss in Long Beach and I
actually have a note from him.

1941
01:54:39,180 --> 01:54:43,890
If I can find it mongst The mess
here Matthew. Yeah, that's

1942
01:54:43,890 --> 01:54:47,700
actually a note worth reading.
John and and it's been a few

1943
01:54:47,700 --> 01:54:50,820
years since my last donation
please forgive my sins. Here's a

1944
01:54:50,820 --> 01:54:52,170
few bucks from an old night

1945
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,350
1515 Hail Marys and you'll be
good mice. Yes.

1946
01:54:55,350 --> 01:55:01,800
If Did you know that phone
number is 867 And 5309 is

1947
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,900
starting to show up his phone
number does not exist in the

1948
01:55:03,900 --> 01:55:06,510
rewards cards programs at many
stores so you can't use it

1949
01:55:06,510 --> 01:55:06,960
anymore.

1950
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,120
This is old we know oh, you
can't use that anymore. can't

1951
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:09,630
use it anymore.

1952
01:55:09,630 --> 01:55:12,510
That's the point. Set aside
Matthew moss and then he has

1953
01:55:12,510 --> 01:55:17,250
this thing it says fuck Pay Pal.
So he did say, ale. We have

1954
01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:20,490
another note I want to read,
which is an anonymous note came

1955
01:55:20,490 --> 01:55:22,170
in and this is just worth
reading because it's

1956
01:55:22,170 --> 01:55:26,670
interesting. Last month, I
attended the Tennessee regional

1957
01:55:26,670 --> 01:55:30,750
debut of Pandora's premise in
Knoxville, Tennessee. And I have

1958
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,930
he sent a little flyer which he
wants me to send to you. The

1959
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film was followed by a live
discussion panel of nuclear

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01:55:37,860 --> 01:55:41,790
power experts that commented on
the film and took questions from

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01:55:41,790 --> 01:55:44,370
the audience. The panel, pretend
this is

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01:55:44,490 --> 01:55:47,790
Oh, I know I have this. I have
this video. It was really

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01:55:47,790 --> 01:55:49,170
outstanding, actually. Yeah,
well

1964
01:55:49,170 --> 01:55:52,470
listen to this. The panel
participants included scientists

1965
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:55,350
from nearby Oak Ridge, the
University of Tennessee and

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01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:58,110
representatives of TVA and US
enrichment Corporation have

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01:55:58,110 --> 01:56:02,070
enclosed the flyer shows
everyone included, the panel was

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01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:06,570
uninteresting. Until the last
question when a woman asked how

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01:56:06,570 --> 01:56:10,590
the nuclear industry could do a
better job of informing the

1970
01:56:10,590 --> 01:56:15,600
public of the real benefits and
risks of nuclear power. The head

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01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:22,440
of nuclear r&d at all our NL
immediately responded quote, I

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01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:25,680
do not have as strong of a
perception that there is an anti

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01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:32,280
public negative thing about
nuclear. I'm glad I stuck around

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01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:36,900
for that jam. Yeah, I have that.
I believe it's probably true.

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01:56:37,110 --> 01:56:38,760
These guys are clueless.

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01:56:39,210 --> 01:56:43,770
I actually have a couple of
pieces from this guy are Jun

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01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:50,040
McKee, Johnny. He's the guy that
started the word 30 times the

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01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:53,070
cesium or the strontium in the
water. We're all going to die

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01:56:53,070 --> 01:56:57,840
from Fukushima. Oh, yeah. Right.
So I found art nights or atomic

1980
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,480
Rod had done an interview with
him several months ago when this

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01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,670
guy came out with his latest
book, which is how these guys

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01:57:02,670 --> 01:57:07,500
work. And right after we, you
know, we don't have to. I mean,

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01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:10,350
we only have one birthday. Do
you really want me to play the

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01:57:10,350 --> 01:57:11,670
music and everything for

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01:57:11,730 --> 01:57:14,220
let's do the music birthday. We
have no night we have one

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01:57:14,220 --> 01:57:14,730
birthday.

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01:57:14,820 --> 01:57:15,960
We have no money?

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01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,170
No money. Thank you Google
again.

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01:57:20,970 --> 01:57:25,740
If they're not blocking us as
malware and spam, we're their

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01:57:25,770 --> 01:57:26,310
screens

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01:57:26,580 --> 01:57:29,190
are the only ones are screwing
everybody just as a Yahoo is

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01:57:29,190 --> 01:57:32,190
doing. It's not targeted, I can
assure you there's too much

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01:57:32,190 --> 01:57:34,620
money to be made by screwing
everyone. Right?

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01:57:34,650 --> 01:57:36,660
Okay, let me do it real quick,
then we might as well

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01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:47,790
said Robert claesson. Sir
Robert, I should say and he

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01:57:47,790 --> 01:57:51,750
congratulates his wife, who
celebrated her birthday on the

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01:57:51,750 --> 01:57:55,380
11th of August. He didn't give
us a name. But we know she tells

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01:57:55,380 --> 01:57:58,590
him to shut up slaves. So happy
birthday from your buddies here,

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01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:03,420
and the best podcast in the
universe. And I do want to

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01:58:03,420 --> 01:58:06,330
remind everybody that we need
your support for the Sunday

2001
01:58:06,330 --> 01:58:09,900
show. It's already Sunday's are
already lower than than the

2002
01:58:09,900 --> 01:58:16,740
Thursday shows. And this is a
pretty poor showing so.org/and A

2003
01:58:16,740 --> 01:58:18,990
please remind your friends as
well who may be listening who

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01:58:18,990 --> 01:58:21,240
just didn't get the email and
sign up for the email

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01:58:22,050 --> 01:58:23,670
newsletter. And you can Yeah, we

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01:58:23,670 --> 01:58:27,330
can get a bigger list that way.
We'll have more chance more

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01:58:27,330 --> 01:58:30,840
chance. There's a better yes.
Like it's like going to Vegas.

2008
01:58:32,910 --> 01:58:36,300
So that's actually there were
there were two things. I think

2009
01:58:36,300 --> 01:58:41,160
because the President came out
with his big energy plan, a

2010
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:43,770
couple wasn't now two months
ago, maybe maybe two and a half

2011
01:58:43,770 --> 01:58:47,310
months ago. And it included, you
know, obviously, you know, gas

2012
01:58:47,310 --> 01:58:51,780
and solar and wind and there was
a provision for nuclear there

2013
01:58:51,780 --> 01:58:55,110
was actually quite a few pages.
And I think that now has to be

2014
01:58:55,500 --> 01:58:58,290
completely wiped off the map,
which is why you're seeing all

2015
01:58:58,290 --> 01:59:02,460
of a sudden, all of these really
scary things about Fukushima

2016
01:59:02,460 --> 01:59:04,590
there was something else that
had that happened, which was

2017
01:59:04,950 --> 01:59:10,560
clearly a planted anti nuclear
strategy. And I would say I'm a

2018
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:14,580
fan of nuclear the new breeder
technology, you know, there's

2019
01:59:14,610 --> 01:59:17,580
almost there is no waste. I
mean, that makes no sense. The

2020
01:59:17,580 --> 01:59:19,590
reason why it's not going to
happen is because it makes no

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01:59:19,590 --> 01:59:23,250
financial sense because no one
can rape and pillage of Africa

2022
01:59:23,250 --> 01:59:26,610
to go and get the stuff that we
need. So this paper comes out

2023
01:59:26,610 --> 01:59:30,450
from UT right here in the
backyard. And this was a working

2024
01:59:30,450 --> 01:59:33,900
paper I'm reading from the paper
itself the papers called nuclear

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01:59:33,900 --> 01:59:38,190
proliferation prevention project
the N P P P working paper number

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01:59:38,190 --> 01:59:41,490
one, protecting us nuclear
facilities from terrorist

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01:59:41,490 --> 01:59:45,360
attack, reassessing the current
design basis threat approach,

2028
01:59:45,930 --> 01:59:49,860
and this is done by primarily
Lera Kirkman, a graduate

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01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:54,120
research assistant at the NPP P,
supplemented with editing and

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01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,090
contributions by Professor Alan
J. Cooperman coordinator of the

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01:59:57,090 --> 02:00:00,750
NPP is prepared as part of a
larger into this pulmonary study

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02:00:00,750 --> 02:00:03,180
at the University of Texas at
Austin for the Office of the

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02:00:03,180 --> 02:00:06,600
Secretary of Defense. So it's
kind of like a research paper.

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02:00:07,110 --> 02:00:09,840
And in this paper that you're
the introduction, and then we go

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02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:14,580
on to threats and consequences,
and that so it lists the threats

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02:00:14,580 --> 02:00:18,540
of nuclear and number one theft
of nuclear weapons. And there's

2037
02:00:18,540 --> 02:00:22,560
a whole thing about 5000 active
inactive nuclear warheads. And

2038
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,920
then we have the new scroll
down, we've got theft of S and

2039
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:30,120
M, nuclear materials suitable
for use in weapons. And then we

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02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:34,290
scroll down now our Page Six
almost, and let's see we have

2041
02:00:34,290 --> 02:00:38,940
sabotage of reactors. And this
is an example of the news report

2042
02:00:38,940 --> 02:00:46,800
based upon this paper by a
graduate student at UT,

2043
02:00:47,370 --> 02:00:52,410
spread across the country 100
Working nuclear reactors. 160

2044
02:00:52,410 --> 02:00:56,580
million Americans live within 50
miles of 126 big cities from

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02:00:56,760 --> 02:01:01,080
Boston to New York, Chicago to
Omaha, New Orleans to San Diego.

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02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:04,590
Now, researchers say those
reactors remain vulnerable to

2047
02:01:04,590 --> 02:01:09,000
attack from a hijacked jetliner,
a boat sitting off the coast, or

2048
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:10,590
an organized ground attack

2049
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:15,180
now. So this is all from this
research paper is that this news

2050
02:01:15,180 --> 02:01:17,910
report, terrorists could create
a meltdown in reactor in a

2051
02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:21,090
matter of minutes. But the SWAT
teams would arrive after about

2052
02:01:21,090 --> 02:01:22,020
an hour and a half.

2053
02:01:24,990 --> 02:01:28,020
This is fantastic. commissioned
by the Pentagon, the University

2054
02:01:28,020 --> 02:01:31,620
of Texas report suggests more
needs to be done to guard

2055
02:01:31,620 --> 02:01:35,700
against a 911 scale attack. The
former director of the National

2056
02:01:35,700 --> 02:01:39,270
Counterterrorism Center says it
will be far more difficult today

2057
02:01:39,270 --> 02:01:41,880
to hijack a plane and nuclear
reactors and

2058
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:44,730
let me just get this straight.
So the Pentagon commissioned a

2059
02:01:44,730 --> 02:01:48,330
report so they paid for it, they
commissioned a report at the UT

2060
02:01:48,540 --> 02:01:52,170
the UT professor took the money
had his graduate students write

2061
02:01:52,170 --> 02:01:55,410
this report, it's a crazy little
PDF and even has little mushroom

2062
02:01:55,410 --> 02:01:59,910
cloud at the top there with I'm
not kidding you. It has little

2063
02:01:59,910 --> 02:02:03,180
mushroom, it's in the show
notes. You can see it and and

2064
02:02:03,180 --> 02:02:06,150
from that, then they turn around
and turn it into a news report

2065
02:02:06,150 --> 02:02:09,210
that we're all going to die
unless we make sure the Pentagon

2066
02:02:09,750 --> 02:02:13,890
protects us from terrorism.
That's the system. And that is

2067
02:02:13,890 --> 02:02:20,280
going to be the new anti nuclear
talking point, as is witnessed

2068
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:27,360
by I'm trying to find this guy
had him this Zune. What's his

2069
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:33,030
face? And he is the one that
started this whole crap, how

2070
02:02:33,030 --> 02:02:36,450
come I don't have while he's,
he's been on a couple of network

2071
02:02:36,450 --> 02:02:40,290
shows talking about this. The
strontium in the water there at

2072
02:02:40,290 --> 02:02:44,670
Fukushima is 30 times, you know,
the recommended dosage. And we

2073
02:02:44,670 --> 02:02:47,610
already kind of debunked that on
the previous show that that is

2074
02:02:47,610 --> 02:02:51,480
such a fraction of what you get
in radiation in general. Now, I

2075
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:55,260
don't know much about nuclear,
but there is so little

2076
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:59,400
contrarian messaging and
information getting out there.

2077
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:03,720
There's just all these pico
Curies and micro serviettes, and

2078
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:06,540
all this crap and it sounds
really, really scary. But when

2079
02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:10,080
you get down to it, these guys
who are pretending to be or

2080
02:03:10,110 --> 02:03:14,760
maybe are nuclear experts, they
are anti nuclear, all of them.

2081
02:03:14,970 --> 02:03:18,660
And they're the ones that get
on, get on TV. And you know, and

2082
02:03:18,690 --> 02:03:22,920
guess who's sponsoring all this
stuff. So here's an alternative,

2083
02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:26,880
by the way, just as a crack
potty kind of thing. I would

2084
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,940
suggest that maybe these would
are one of our anonymous

2085
02:03:29,940 --> 02:03:32,430
producers who went to this
presentation of Pandora's

2086
02:03:32,430 --> 02:03:35,160
Promise with a bunch of these
experts. And one of them says

2087
02:03:35,910 --> 02:03:39,090
there's no anti nuke anything
going on. I don't know what

2088
02:03:39,090 --> 02:03:42,300
you're talking about. It's
possible that the even this is

2089
02:03:42,300 --> 02:03:44,640
being presented in an anti nuke
fashion.

2090
02:03:44,730 --> 02:03:50,700
I totally I you know, yes. I
when I saw Pandora's Promise,

2091
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,910
the first thing I said was
someone got in there, and they

2092
02:03:53,910 --> 02:03:57,330
fucked it all up. And they and
they made it really

2093
02:03:57,330 --> 02:04:00,090
questionable. It was it was so
important. We talked about that.

2094
02:04:00,090 --> 02:04:02,790
We had a whole Yeah, I remember
when you saw it. This is a while

2095
02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:03,840
back. So here's this

2096
02:04:03,870 --> 02:04:09,990
our June guy and and he actually
has a foundation of which the

2097
02:04:09,990 --> 02:04:13,590
foundation getting of course is
a 5013 C Corp. So we have no

2098
02:04:13,590 --> 02:04:17,370
idea where the money's come
from. But he raises about

2099
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:25,110
$600,000 a year he pays himself
300,000 He pays his wife 75,000

2100
02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:32,310
And that's his foundation. So
it's a nonprofit and and this is

2101
02:04:32,310 --> 02:04:35,280
the kind of stuff he talks about
so here he is with atomic rod

2102
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:37,860
now I don't think he knew that a
Tom he just thought it was doing

2103
02:04:37,860 --> 02:04:42,900
some podcast with some atomic
guy which is kind of funny. And

2104
02:04:42,930 --> 02:04:46,110
but rod of course you know, he
ran nuclear submarine

2105
02:04:46,470 --> 02:04:51,000
rod did Tomic rod post this in
the yes yeah, it's well, this is

2106
02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:53,820
episode one has been posted. So
we're not listening to a private

2107
02:04:53,820 --> 02:04:57,420
conversation on the podcast is
gonna give us the litany.

2108
02:04:57,450 --> 02:05:00,330
Yeah, this is a podcast but the
guy I don't think he under stood

2109
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:03,390
where Rod was coming from Rod
was on a nuclear sub for 20

2110
02:05:03,390 --> 02:05:08,700
years. And he works at a big
nuclear nuclear company was

2111
02:05:08,700 --> 02:05:11,910
trying to produce, as far as I'm
concerned, backyard nukes,

2112
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:13,710
although that's not what he's
doing. But that's what I want

2113
02:05:13,710 --> 02:05:14,250
him to do.

2114
02:05:14,580 --> 02:05:17,550
Yeah, I wish he would. And it'd
be great to have a place up in

2115
02:05:17,550 --> 02:05:21,840
the mountains with a well, and
then a nuke in the backyard, and

2116
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:25,350
it'd be great. You'd have it
made forever. Yeah, you don't

2117
02:05:25,350 --> 02:05:27,900
even have to do it. You want to
be hooked to anything completely

2118
02:05:27,900 --> 02:05:29,160
off the grid. I'm spending

2119
02:05:29,190 --> 02:05:32,880
600 bucks a month here in Austin
on electricity.

2120
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:37,620
Yeah, did you get right what is
the back yard nook? sell for? I

2121
02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:40,890
think they're like, I think you
can get one for like 50 grand or

2122
02:05:40,890 --> 02:05:41,100
so the

2123
02:05:41,100 --> 02:05:45,390
problem is the zoning, John. I
was gonna know. Well, if you

2124
02:05:45,390 --> 02:05:47,880
don't tell anybody. Well,
anyway, let's listen to this

2125
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:50,910
guy. So here's this guy who was
calling him to be an expert on

2126
02:05:50,910 --> 02:05:54,360
all the shows. And his spouting
off this, you know, these

2127
02:05:54,390 --> 02:05:57,810
numbers, which sounds scary when
you say 30 times the recommended

2128
02:05:57,810 --> 02:06:00,420
dosage for your drinking water.
But it's really a you know, a

2129
02:06:00,450 --> 02:06:04,830
10th of a percent of what you
get on an annual basis anyway.

2130
02:06:05,250 --> 02:06:08,040
And here's his here he is just
saying that he just hates

2131
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:08,520
nuclear.

2132
02:06:09,300 --> 02:06:14,130
I for I work every day for
nuclear safety. Because I know

2133
02:06:14,130 --> 02:06:18,030
even though I don't like nuclear
power, particularly, the or at

2134
02:06:18,030 --> 02:06:18,420
all,

2135
02:06:18,660 --> 02:06:21,750
or at all, he doesn't like it at
all. And he's the expert in

2136
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:23,790
nuclear. So he's always
presented it

2137
02:06:23,790 --> 02:06:26,520
doesn't like it at all the
experts

2138
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:28,440
because he writes books about

2139
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:33,780
like, a guy is a wine taster.
You know, I hate wine. But your

2140
02:06:33,780 --> 02:06:35,550
beers are Merleau Blanda you

2141
02:06:35,550 --> 02:06:38,010
can I hate Marlowe's. Yeah,

2142
02:06:39,060 --> 02:06:40,380
it makes no sense.

2143
02:06:40,590 --> 02:06:43,260
So but but I'll play as a little
bit more of this. But I figured

2144
02:06:43,260 --> 02:06:45,570
out what these guys are really
pushing for. It's, it's quite

2145
02:06:45,570 --> 02:06:46,020
interesting.

2146
02:06:46,410 --> 02:06:50,490
We do have it. And even if we
stopped all our reactors, we'd

2147
02:06:50,490 --> 02:06:54,510
still have spent fuel pool
safety problems for decades to

2148
02:06:54,510 --> 02:06:59,790
come. So we need we actually
need to make sure we won't have

2149
02:06:59,790 --> 02:07:03,810
an accident. We need safety
systems here that are very

2150
02:07:03,810 --> 02:07:07,320
rigorous. And we need a real
regulation system regulatory

2151
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:09,630
system that's actually attending
to all of these things.

2152
02:07:09,690 --> 02:07:13,860
So what what what happened to a
spent fuel pool that has saved

2153
02:07:13,860 --> 02:07:15,570
fuel that's been out of the
reactor for

2154
02:07:15,570 --> 02:07:18,360
days. Now, here's rod who knows
everything about nuclear safety,

2155
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:21,150
he's setting the guy up, it's
pretty funny. He's like, okay,

2156
02:07:21,150 --> 02:07:23,730
so this horrible, because this
is what you hear about the spent

2157
02:07:23,730 --> 02:07:26,820
fuel rods and they're gonna, Vic
terrorists blows it up,

2158
02:07:26,910 --> 02:07:29,760
everything will melt down to be
horrible. So here's a guy who

2159
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:33,390
actually knows what can happen,
versus a fear monger who writes

2160
02:07:33,390 --> 02:07:37,770
books and takes money in a
nonprofit way to scare people

2161
02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:42,690
into using a gas, I guess, 18
months, and the water suddenly

2162
02:07:42,690 --> 02:07:44,220
disappeared. From the

2163
02:07:45,090 --> 02:07:49,260
end, if you read the Brookhaven
report, you'll see that there's

2164
02:07:49,260 --> 02:07:54,540
a whole range of outcomes with
the with with accidents, damages

2165
02:07:54,540 --> 02:07:58,260
in the event of a fire ranging
from under a billion dollars to,

2166
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:01,200
as I said, a billion dollars. So

2167
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:04,170
this is important these rods
saying that the key point here,

2168
02:08:04,650 --> 02:08:08,850
okay, how would the fire start?
So okay, yeah, the nuclear rods

2169
02:08:08,850 --> 02:08:10,860
might be a problem, but you need
to have a fire, how would the

2170
02:08:10,860 --> 02:08:11,550
fire start?

2171
02:08:12,030 --> 02:08:16,950
Start, the fire starts when the
water is drained, and there's

2172
02:08:16,950 --> 02:08:22,320
some very hot fuel in it. Now.
You know, if all the fuel is

2173
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:26,310
very cool, and the fuel is very
separated, which is what we've

2174
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:30,300
been advocating, then you
probably won't have a fire and

2175
02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:33,480
you won't have severe
consequences. But if we have

2176
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:38,070
spent fuel pools like Vermont
Yankee, which has 40 years where

2177
02:08:38,070 --> 02:08:42,480
the spent fuel jammed into one
spent fuel pool, more spent fuel

2178
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:46,140
than all the four Fukushima
stricken reactors put together,

2179
02:08:46,500 --> 02:08:49,950
and you're putting hot and spent
fuel in it, when you withdraw

2180
02:08:49,950 --> 02:08:53,040
it, if you have an accident
close to that time or a

2181
02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:57,000
terrorist attack, you could have
a pretty devastating fire. So

2182
02:08:57,240 --> 02:09:02,070
here's the messaging. So we have
these new reactors with four

2183
02:09:02,070 --> 02:09:05,490
times the amount of Fukushima
just to give you a frame of

2184
02:09:05,490 --> 02:09:11,250
mind, and if we have a terrorist
attack, Why yes, then we can

2185
02:09:11,250 --> 02:09:15,030
have a problem. Unlike a
terrorist attack on Oh, I don't

2186
02:09:15,030 --> 02:09:21,030
know, AV gas fuel depots and
airports, tankers, you know,

2187
02:09:21,060 --> 02:09:23,850
this is this is bullsh shell
refinery.

2188
02:09:23,879 --> 02:09:28,079
Thank you. No one ever talks
about that. But you so the new

2189
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:29,309
narrative is going either

2190
02:09:29,310 --> 02:09:33,300
way. I've always believed that
oil refiners are the least

2191
02:09:33,300 --> 02:09:35,760
protected of all these things
and you get one of those things

2192
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:40,320
blowing up. You got a mess on
your hands. Nothing happens you

2193
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:43,350
know, there is no tear that
monetarism does actually, in

2194
02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:47,340
this continent is next to
nothing. Yeah, except for the

2195
02:09:47,340 --> 02:09:49,830
guys that are the idiots that
are set up by the FBI.

2196
02:09:49,860 --> 02:09:53,670
But the problem that we're
seeing now is you've got the the

2197
02:09:53,670 --> 02:09:59,490
movement against against nuclear
is taking. I mean now we have

2198
02:09:59,490 --> 02:10:03,840
like In the alternative media is
duped is 100% being duped into

2199
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:08,400
this, and we are alternative
thinking and conspiratorial by

2200
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,850
nature. I'll admit that right
off the bat. Because of that

2201
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,720
this is being played into to
say, Oh, they're they're keeping

2202
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:19,320
secrets about Fukushima, there's
a cloud coming, the cloud

2203
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:23,010
radiation is going to kill you,
we're all going to die. It's

2204
02:10:23,010 --> 02:10:23,130
just

2205
02:10:23,130 --> 02:10:24,450
a cycle on that, too.

2206
02:10:24,780 --> 02:10:25,770
What do you mean the cycle

2207
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:30,060
is Fukushima is going to blow
any minute, you know, every so

2208
02:10:30,060 --> 02:10:32,370
often this crops back into the
conversation. It's

2209
02:10:32,370 --> 02:10:35,550
those standards back right now.
And that's because the money's

2210
02:10:35,550 --> 02:10:38,760
being spent. Money's being made
available for the President's

2211
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:43,140
plan of action. And oh, and by
the way, that fracking thing,

2212
02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:46,260
not working out, so well. Have
you have you been looking at the

2213
02:10:46,260 --> 02:10:52,530
financials, John? No, I haven't
although fracking was supposed

2214
02:10:52,530 --> 02:10:56,460
to be you know, turn us into the
new OPEC, but but this stuff is

2215
02:10:56,460 --> 02:11:00,000
not working. It's the wells you
know, it's like oh, well, it's

2216
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:03,810
not really you know, BP and
Shell Yeah, shell they're

2217
02:11:03,810 --> 02:11:07,200
closing down some stuff and you
know, the big fracking companies

2218
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:11,520
are losing money How can you
have a natural fossil fuel

2219
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:12,930
company and lose money?

2220
02:11:14,910 --> 02:11:17,880
That makes no sense. Yes, like
owning a casino.

2221
02:11:18,660 --> 02:11:23,220
How can you lose money on that?
This makes no sense. But here's

2222
02:11:23,220 --> 02:11:27,870
what these guys like this room
guy. Here's what they really

2223
02:11:27,870 --> 02:11:28,200
want.

2224
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:31,650
I don't I didn't actually talk a
lot about demand management and

2225
02:11:31,650 --> 02:11:33,660
carbon free nuclear free I feel
I should listen to

2226
02:11:33,660 --> 02:11:38,070
what demand management this is
very interesting demand

2227
02:11:38,070 --> 02:11:39,300
management talk more

2228
02:11:39,300 --> 02:11:42,990
about it, but since I certainly
have demand management can mean

2229
02:11:43,020 --> 02:11:47,730
a lot of different things. So it
can mean like what I do with my

2230
02:11:47,790 --> 02:11:51,180
my contract with my electric
utility allow I allow them at

2231
02:11:51,180 --> 02:11:54,270
most a dozen times a year to
turn off my air conditioner for

2232
02:11:54,270 --> 02:11:57,180
a couple hours a day on the
hottest days. What

2233
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:03,510
demand management he allows his
electricity provider to turn off

2234
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:06,570
his air conditioning for a
couple of hours on the hottest

2235
02:12:06,570 --> 02:12:14,760
days. What is that the future
for us is the elect This is the

2236
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:19,680
smart grid by the way, the the
electorate will be able to on

2237
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:23,130
the hottest day when you want it
the most the most, they're going

2238
02:12:23,130 --> 02:12:24,060
to turn it off

2239
02:12:24,090 --> 02:12:26,730
that's actually curtailment of
service

2240
02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:30,000
curtailment of service and these
are good words write them down

2241
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:33,600
demand management, curtailment
of services Shut up slave

2242
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:34,110
wherever.

2243
02:12:34,890 --> 02:12:38,790
There are lots of ways of demand
management with in an

2244
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:42,420
intelligent grid. And that's why
I said today we can do it 30

2245
02:12:42,420 --> 02:12:45,930
years ago, I don't think it was
would have been possible. Today

2246
02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:49,560
you can build a refrigerator
that can talk to the utility. Do

2247
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:54,450
you care when the defrost cycle
in your freezer is operating?

2248
02:12:54,540 --> 02:12:59,100
Yes. You don't. You don't know
when it happens. I don't know

2249
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:02,580
when it happens. And I don't
care what happens if I set a

2250
02:13:02,580 --> 02:13:06,780
dishwasher to operate now unless
I'm having a party and want to

2251
02:13:06,780 --> 02:13:07,530
override

2252
02:13:09,900 --> 02:13:12,840
I love that. You need an
override switch on your

2253
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:13,710
dishwasher because

2254
02:13:13,710 --> 02:13:17,850
I'm having a party. This takes
me back to the promise. Where is

2255
02:13:17,850 --> 02:13:21,120
my internet fridge that is going
to automatically order the milk

2256
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:23,730
for me. This is how your demand
machine is gonna call

2257
02:13:23,730 --> 02:13:26,250
the repairman yeah this is
bullshit washer

2258
02:13:26,250 --> 02:13:29,760
from operating when there's
plenty of wind I don't care when

2259
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:32,340
the dishwasher operates. The I

2260
02:13:32,340 --> 02:13:36,330
Do I Do I Do Of course I care
when it operates I want it to

2261
02:13:36,330 --> 02:13:39,630
operate when I'm asleep. So when
I wake up in the morning it's

2262
02:13:39,630 --> 02:13:40,080
done

2263
02:13:40,110 --> 02:13:43,680
or the clothes washing machine
operator I care about that to my

2264
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:47,700
my wife she loves to wash you
can't be turning it off and say

2265
02:13:47,700 --> 02:13:53,070
no washing for you Miss Miki
when we she actually she loves

2266
02:13:53,070 --> 02:13:55,650
she really she loves washing
it's really true. So

2267
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:59,700
you can have an intelligent grid
without any curtailment of

2268
02:13:59,700 --> 02:14:05,310
service at reasonable cost. Do
we have it today? No. Today the

2269
02:14:05,310 --> 02:14:08,790
total amount of communication
between consumers and producers

2270
02:14:09,270 --> 02:14:11,610
as represented by our on off
switches.

2271
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:15,390
So we're gonna have all these on
off switches. So here's here's

2272
02:14:15,570 --> 02:14:19,350
so the future we could have.
What I believe is that the

2273
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:24,060
future we need is very
affordable. Once you have it I

2274
02:14:24,060 --> 02:14:27,210
think once it's in place, I
think nuclear is very affordable

2275
02:14:27,210 --> 02:14:30,270
because you get like this little
football sides of stuff and it

2276
02:14:30,270 --> 02:14:33,270
just runs and you don't even
have to have huge grids you know

2277
02:14:33,270 --> 02:14:36,060
you could have a one nuke in the
backyard and power a whole

2278
02:14:36,060 --> 02:14:39,660
neighborhood and then everyone
could you know could turn on

2279
02:14:39,660 --> 02:14:42,870
their washing machine whenever
they wanted and it wouldn't be

2280
02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:46,110
burning stuff you know fossil
fuel dirty crap in the air

2281
02:14:46,110 --> 02:14:49,620
instead of that we're going to
have more crap we're gonna have

2282
02:14:49,620 --> 02:14:53,430
gas we're gonna have still have
coal which by the way kills 6000

2283
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:57,210
people a year just miners trying
to get the coal and we're going

2284
02:14:57,210 --> 02:15:01,620
to be turned into slaves a to
pay for it. Now I'm already

2285
02:15:01,620 --> 02:15:05,670
paying 600 A month here in
Austin for two people, two

2286
02:15:05,670 --> 02:15:10,200
people for electricity. And it's
going to be demand management

2287
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:11,940
and curtailment of services.

2288
02:15:12,660 --> 02:15:15,420
Yeah, when you need the
services, so, yeah.

2289
02:15:15,930 --> 02:15:20,820
So this is slavery. And the
alternative media you write is

2290
02:15:20,820 --> 02:15:24,600
on this cycle and they're being
sucked into it with this stupid

2291
02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:27,810
like, we're not being told
they're keeping things. This

2292
02:15:27,810 --> 02:15:30,150
it's it's a ruse. It's a farce.

2293
02:15:30,390 --> 02:15:33,870
It's not fun at the PR agents,
agencies behind this. This is

2294
02:15:33,870 --> 02:15:34,620
good stuff.

2295
02:15:34,680 --> 02:15:37,680
Well, but the it's the big
companies, man, these guys are

2296
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:40,470
huge. Well, the Iran guy, his
form nine, nine, he lists

2297
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:43,560
nothing but he's just one of
these. You get a guy who was

2298
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:46,740
Indian and you know, he writes a
book, boom, he's your guy. You

2299
02:15:46,740 --> 02:15:51,270
know, we need some kids. Look
for the kids now. Anti nuke

2300
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:57,450
kids. Yeah. All about gas. You
watch. But this is this is the

2301
02:15:57,480 --> 02:16:00,450
these are the biggest. I think
these are. These are so huge,

2302
02:16:00,450 --> 02:16:05,640
John. And then I found this. I
found this great. This is really

2303
02:16:05,640 --> 02:16:11,820
funny. So now we have you were
the one who taught us about the

2304
02:16:11,820 --> 02:16:16,680
global cooling in the 1970s.
Right, right. Because you were I

2305
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,800
mean, I was around in the 70s.
But yeah, I witnessed it. Yeah,

2306
02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:22,170
I was like playing with GI Joe
and the bra was

2307
02:16:22,170 --> 02:16:22,980
gonna die.

2308
02:16:24,900 --> 02:16:29,370
Okay, so here's what's on NBC
sounding the alarm a leaked

2309
02:16:29,370 --> 02:16:32,430
report about the danger
happening all around us tonight.

2310
02:16:32,459 --> 02:16:36,089
The key finding in this leaked
draft report is that it's quote

2311
02:16:36,089 --> 02:16:41,279
extremely likely as in greater
than 95%. That human activity is

2312
02:16:41,279 --> 02:16:44,399
the main cause of the planet's
temperature rise in the last 60

2313
02:16:44,399 --> 02:16:47,699
years. At the top of the world
and Arctic Greenland scientists

2314
02:16:47,699 --> 02:16:52,289
like Dr. Jason box, study the
icy landscape. He says all this

2315
02:16:52,289 --> 02:16:56,009
might be lost to climate change,
mostly caused by humans burning

2316
02:16:56,009 --> 02:16:57,149
fossil fuels.

2317
02:16:57,180 --> 02:17:00,780
There's no debate, no debate,
it's really quite simple. No

2318
02:17:00,780 --> 02:17:03,990
debate overloaded the atmosphere
with heat trapping gas and the

2319
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:05,250
rest are just details.

2320
02:17:05,970 --> 02:17:09,780
Aqua clean, gay says melting
ice. Notice people struggled to

2321
02:17:09,780 --> 02:17:13,230
reach traditional hunting
grounds. Some have even fallen

2322
02:17:13,230 --> 02:17:14,730
through the thinning ice and

2323
02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:18,240
fallen through ice

2324
02:17:20,820 --> 02:17:24,300
was my favorite. The ice is
getting thinner you fell through

2325
02:17:24,300 --> 02:17:24,450
and

2326
02:17:24,930 --> 02:17:29,610
you're saying that a way of life
is so threatened by his message

2327
02:17:29,610 --> 02:17:32,550
essentially, is that we in the
industrialized world are using

2328
02:17:32,550 --> 02:17:36,300
more than our fair share than
our fair share, and our

2329
02:17:36,300 --> 02:17:38,220
grandchildren will pay the price

2330
02:17:39,540 --> 02:17:43,110
and curry so very sobering, very
sobering. And I think we should

2331
02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:47,430
just go all nook. So first of
all, and curry I denounce you

2332
02:17:47,430 --> 02:17:51,060
from using my last name. You are
no longer you can call yourself

2333
02:17:51,060 --> 02:17:56,010
whatever you want. But not curry
This is didn't you denounced. So

2334
02:17:56,010 --> 02:17:58,620
ever since we kind of started
this topic. And I have to say,

2335
02:17:58,620 --> 02:18:01,140
since the invention of bit
message where people feel very

2336
02:18:01,140 --> 02:18:04,860
comfortable at sending me
messages. You can find my bitten

2337
02:18:04,860 --> 02:18:11,070
message, address on my blog
dockery.com. I got this great.

2338
02:18:11,070 --> 02:18:14,070
And this is from March this
year. Dr. Don Easterbrook. Have

2339
02:18:14,070 --> 02:18:17,310
you ever heard of this guy?
Sounds familiar. Dr. Don

2340
02:18:17,340 --> 02:18:21,870
Easterbrook is an actual
professor. And he testified in

2341
02:18:21,870 --> 02:18:25,980
front of the let me just get
this. I want to say it properly.

2342
02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:33,750
The Washington Senate, the
Committee on the cmte. So what

2343
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:38,640
does that that's Committee on
Energy Environment? Whatever.

2344
02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:44,250
Yeah. And he this guy, and you
have to watch his videos in the

2345
02:18:44,250 --> 02:18:47,430
show notes. Of course, it's
under climate gates slash agenda

2346
02:18:47,430 --> 02:18:52,260
21. And I have three little
clips from him, which is just

2347
02:18:52,260 --> 02:18:56,340
fantastic. What what he's
putting in here. So here he is.

2348
02:18:56,550 --> 02:18:59,850
What's this guy's name again?
Easterbrook, Dr. Don

2349
02:18:59,880 --> 02:19:05,310
Easterbrook, Dr. Don rose. So
his entire thing is the the the

2350
02:19:05,340 --> 02:19:08,940
climate data has been
manipulated by NASA and NOAA.

2351
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:12,810
And what they do is he says that
they're the it was hotter in

2352
02:19:12,810 --> 02:19:18,000
1930. And there were more heat
records broken. In fact, it is

2353
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,390
he is a proponent of global
cooling. And he

2354
02:19:21,389 --> 02:19:24,239
show Yeah, I think he's one of
the guys that goes back to the

2355
02:19:24,239 --> 02:19:28,649
70s was born in 1935. Is Yeah,
he's been around the 70s. So

2356
02:19:28,650 --> 02:19:31,770
here, here he is explaining how
there were more records in the

2357
02:19:31,770 --> 02:19:35,250
30s. Then now and then we're
going to get into Senator

2358
02:19:35,250 --> 02:19:38,430
rancor, who was really pissed
off about this guy testifying

2359
02:19:38,430 --> 02:19:41,670
and his committee warmer. And so
they come up with a headline

2360
02:19:41,670 --> 02:19:44,490
saying, Oh, it's warmer now than
it was in this was the original

2361
02:19:44,490 --> 02:19:46,770
data before they manipulated.

2362
02:19:48,900 --> 02:19:51,930
What they've manipulated the
data, you'll see that if we take

2363
02:19:52,080 --> 02:20:00,330
the top, top 10 Number 219 34
Three was 1939 floors 1931 Try

2364
02:20:00,330 --> 02:20:05,910
was 1936 was 1933, semer 1938.
And guess what they're all in

2365
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:06,660
1930s.

2366
02:20:08,250 --> 02:20:10,800
They called the Dust Bowl
because of this. That's

2367
02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:14,280
right, the hottest decade of the
century, not to present. That's

2368
02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:18,210
the last decade. But the hottest
half century owls are here and

2369
02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:24,120
you look at all these 2000.
These are all second year 1011.

2370
02:20:24,180 --> 02:20:27,600
So he's showing the top 20 years
essentially in the top 10 are

2371
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:32,460
all in the 30s. And the and this
past year, two years, is all in

2372
02:20:32,460 --> 02:20:34,320
the the 10 through 2020.

2373
02:20:35,370 --> 02:20:37,980
This is what the present
temperature has been doing. And

2374
02:20:37,980 --> 02:20:41,190
it's nowhere close to the to the
other. And if you plot that

2375
02:20:41,190 --> 02:20:44,520
data, this is what it looks
like. This is a number of

2376
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:48,240
temperature records that were
broken in any given year. These

2377
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:53,010
are years down here. So here we
are right here. And now we're

2378
02:20:53,010 --> 02:20:57,030
breaking somewhere around 2000
records, temperature records for

2379
02:20:57,030 --> 02:21:01,110
warms. And you think Wow, 2000,
that's a lot. But look at what

2380
02:21:01,110 --> 02:21:06,360
it was doing in 1936. In
1934 10,000. We are we are

2381
02:21:06,360 --> 02:21:11,070
setting a record highs at a rate
of about only a fourth of those

2382
02:21:11,070 --> 02:21:12,540
that occurred in the 1930s.

2383
02:21:12,570 --> 02:21:15,810
Now when you when you see this
data laid out, it becomes

2384
02:21:15,810 --> 02:21:20,280
apparent what they're doing.
Because you can have the hottest

2385
02:21:20,310 --> 02:21:27,000
August 22 at 4pm in history. But
that doesn't mean that August 23

2386
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:29,820
will be the record because that
that record probably lies back

2387
02:21:29,820 --> 02:21:34,200
in the 30s. So it's so
manipulative, that he now

2388
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:37,410
explains this, how this data has
been manipulated and Senator

2389
02:21:37,410 --> 02:21:43,080
rancor, it who is Democrat is
Russo on board with this climate

2390
02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:46,050
stuff. He can't believe what
he's hearing and is getting

2391
02:21:46,050 --> 02:21:48,660
picked by everybody.

2392
02:21:52,890 --> 02:21:55,440
Just put out in your slide,
because contrary to the data

2393
02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:58,410
that I have before me, so I'm
just curious if what you're

2394
02:21:58,410 --> 02:22:01,680
basing your metadata on where
your samples are taken from? And

2395
02:22:01,680 --> 02:22:04,080
then also what's your opinion of
the data that I have before me,

2396
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:06,480
which seems contrary to what
you're putting forward?

2397
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:08,790
I don't know that it's contrary
and what would I what I just

2398
02:22:08,790 --> 02:22:12,270
said a moment ago, was that I'm
showing you the original data.

2399
02:22:12,750 --> 02:22:15,690
And what you're looking at is a
data that has been tampered with

2400
02:22:15,690 --> 02:22:19,110
by NOAA on by NASA and I could I
could show you a curves of what

2401
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:22,860
that data look like in 1936,
what it looked like in 1980,

2402
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:26,580
what it looked like in 1990 and
2000. And the temperatures, the

2403
02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:30,240
high temperatures, the 1930s get
cooler every year, they put out

2404
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:32,610
a new issue. And the
temperatures that are in the

2405
02:22:32,610 --> 02:22:37,170
2000 plus get warmer because
they have they have frankly

2406
02:22:37,170 --> 02:22:39,510
tampered with the data. That's
the difference between what

2407
02:22:39,510 --> 02:22:41,940
you're looking at when I'm
looking at minus original data.

2408
02:22:42,570 --> 02:22:46,410
One quick follow up Mr. Chair,
National Science Foundation,

2409
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:51,420
NASA and NOAA have manipulated
the data. Yes, that's true. I

2410
02:22:51,420 --> 02:22:56,250
can show you that. There's no
steam coming out of the guy's

2411
02:22:56,250 --> 02:23:02,340
head. I'm I'm not saying that
they have done something which

2412
02:23:02,340 --> 02:23:05,520
is scurrilous and evil. What I'm
saying simply is something that

2413
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:08,700
everybody will agree on. And
that is that they have what they

2414
02:23:08,700 --> 02:23:12,240
call adjusted, the data
adjusted. And if you look at how

2415
02:23:12,240 --> 02:23:16,830
they have adjusted, the 1930s
always get lower because of the

2416
02:23:16,830 --> 02:23:20,100
adjustments they made from the
original data. And the 2000 Plus

2417
02:23:20,130 --> 02:23:23,220
always get warmer. So this of
course completely blows out the

2418
02:23:23,220 --> 02:23:26,430
thing. What is the President
said time and time again, John,

2419
02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:29,910
get everybody agrees climate
change is a problem.

2420
02:23:30,060 --> 02:23:34,080
The hottest, 12 years on record.
Yeah, everybody says

2421
02:23:36,030 --> 02:23:38,670
Orcas Island is a total
douchebag. But I can see him

2422
02:23:38,670 --> 02:23:40,170
being all in on this. So let's

2423
02:23:40,170 --> 02:23:43,230
let's hear him spit this back.
On the end. Of course, there's

2424
02:23:43,230 --> 02:23:45,990
only one, there's only one thing
you can throw at a guy like

2425
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:48,120
they're short, they're like
little punctuation marks here

2426
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:50,670
and there. They don't persist.
They're not a factor. They give

2427
02:23:50,670 --> 02:23:53,550
you a one year or two years back
and they're gone. Okay, so in

2428
02:23:53,550 --> 02:23:57,540
the follow up, and this gets
back to the data I have before

2429
02:23:57,540 --> 02:24:02,760
me, which seems again, contrary
but so you're talking about a

2430
02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:05,730
trend, particularly over the
last decade, maybe 15 years of

2431
02:24:05,730 --> 02:24:10,230
cooling yet what I have before
me is that 2000 to 2012 was the

2432
02:24:10,230 --> 02:24:14,070
warmest 12 year period in
instrumental record. In other

2433
02:24:14,070 --> 02:24:18,150
words, since we've been
recording heat of the planet and

2434
02:24:18,150 --> 02:24:22,530
what we're in the last 12 years,
we're the hottest on record. And

2435
02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:25,680
that's peer reviewed data that I
have before me. And so the

2436
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:29,400
question to you is, is is that
because what I'm looking at is,

2437
02:24:29,610 --> 02:24:34,230
has been manipulated by NASA and
NOAA and the National Science

2438
02:24:34,230 --> 02:24:36,630
Foundation, or what's the
difference here? Because we

2439
02:24:36,630 --> 02:24:40,350
obviously have conflicting
information before us, right? I

2440
02:24:40,350 --> 02:24:42,900
don't know what your data is or
where it came from. I can't

2441
02:24:42,900 --> 02:24:45,840
answer that. Specifically, why
is different? What I can tell

2442
02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:48,630
you is that the data that I'm
showing you is original data,

2443
02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:52,530
and as I've just shown you the
1930s were warmer, warmer decade

2444
02:24:52,530 --> 02:24:57,120
than the past decade. If you use
original data, that's what I'm

2445
02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:59,640
telling you. And if you have
something as different than that

2446
02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:02,460
my I guess would be, although
without knowing what your data

2447
02:25:02,460 --> 02:25:05,070
is, I can't say for sure is
probably there just as

2448
02:25:05,070 --> 02:25:10,860
manipulated data by NOAA, NASA,
or they sub subunit of NASA

2449
02:25:10,860 --> 02:25:16,020
deals with climate. And what
they do is they make what they

2450
02:25:16,020 --> 02:25:19,920
call adjustments to their data,
the net effect of which is to

2451
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:24,450
make the earlier warm periods
like the 1930s. Cooler and raise

2452
02:25:24,450 --> 02:25:28,320
the temperature of the last
decade artificially, not from

2453
02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:32,100
the original data minus original
data. Is this a conspiracy?

2454
02:25:33,780 --> 02:25:37,830
Conspiracy so I have no comment
on that. I'm simply in this guy,

2455
02:25:37,830 --> 02:25:41,580
so I don't I don't have enough
time to play all the great stuff

2456
02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:46,050
he's taught he says co2 can
never be responsible for global

2457
02:25:46,050 --> 02:25:49,530
warming. He explains that with
really simple simple charge. He

2458
02:25:49,530 --> 02:25:52,740
said, it's such an infant
decimal small amount of our

2459
02:25:52,740 --> 02:25:56,880
atmosphere, it can't be trapping
anything's it's all bull crap.

2460
02:25:57,030 --> 02:26:01,260
And it was nice. No one Dr. Don
eastbrook. Cuz he will be dead

2461
02:26:01,260 --> 02:26:06,720
soon. That's for sure. Making
way making way too much sense.

2462
02:26:06,990 --> 02:26:11,340
He's very entertaining. Please
go to the show notes. 541 dot na

2463
02:26:11,340 --> 02:26:17,820
shownotes.com under climate gate
slash agenda 21. It's just

2464
02:26:17,820 --> 02:26:24,000
funny. It's really It's lovely.
I really, really enjoy. And this

2465
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:26,010
guy yeah, he's like, I got no
dog in the sun. I don't give a

2466
02:26:26,010 --> 02:26:29,010
crap I have no political
affiliations. I just have the

2467
02:26:29,010 --> 02:26:29,340
data.

2468
02:26:29,370 --> 02:26:32,130
That's all I just got the fax
and the you know, you guys can

2469
02:26:32,130 --> 02:26:33,030
say whatever you want.

2470
02:26:33,090 --> 02:26:36,300
And but he really says it's
getting colder. And he has a

2471
02:26:36,630 --> 02:26:39,180
chart that you know that he says
the winters are getting much

2472
02:26:39,180 --> 02:26:42,600
colder. Because please ignore
that snowing in England in

2473
02:26:42,600 --> 02:26:45,720
London. Just please ignore that
Russia. You know, like hundreds

2474
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:49,740
of people died and it was
freezing. 40 below and please

2475
02:26:49,740 --> 02:26:53,250
ignore all that. Yeah. It's just
like, wow.

2476
02:26:53,730 --> 02:26:56,520
So I ran into a similar
character this ret John

2477
02:26:56,520 --> 02:26:59,040
Rappaport, you should look him
up in the Wikipedia is an old

2478
02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:02,580
investigative journalist. Yeah,
I remember him. Yeah, he's like

2479
02:27:02,580 --> 02:27:08,610
70 something. And he was on some
podcast. And it was interesting,

2480
02:27:08,610 --> 02:27:11,820
because he essentially has got
to know he doesn't have as many

2481
02:27:11,850 --> 02:27:19,230
little no agenda lit knees in
his armor or in his ammo. But

2482
02:27:19,230 --> 02:27:21,900
he's got the same ones we have.
He said you Snowden works for

2483
02:27:21,900 --> 02:27:24,900
the CIA. The whole thing is part
of a, you know, a fight between

2484
02:27:24,900 --> 02:27:25,740
the agencies. Now,

2485
02:27:25,740 --> 02:27:27,900
is this his own podcast? Or no,
he

2486
02:27:27,900 --> 02:27:31,080
was, you know, he writes a blog.
He's pretty thorough, I

2487
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:33,000
want I want to follow him to
you, somebody

2488
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:36,360
brought up brought him into a
podcast. And then he talks

2489
02:27:36,360 --> 02:27:36,990
about, you know,

2490
02:27:37,830 --> 02:27:40,020
peak, John, that's all over
podcast.

2491
02:27:40,619 --> 02:27:44,879
He's got the same thoughts on
the swine flu, pretty much every

2492
02:27:44,879 --> 02:27:49,289
single thing. But he has a
couple of interesting metas that

2493
02:27:49,289 --> 02:27:52,649
are actually one of them. It's
kind of bothersome, because it's

2494
02:27:52,649 --> 02:27:55,049
like, well, we probably knew
this, but we didn't quite know.

2495
02:27:55,049 --> 02:27:58,049
But he discusses how news is
used as mind control. And he

2496
02:27:58,049 --> 02:28:01,559
goes into these, all these,
these things that he doesn't

2497
02:28:01,559 --> 02:28:06,269
have a number of are, are kind
of the insights of certain

2498
02:28:06,809 --> 02:28:10,799
events that take place in the
terrorist realm. But he's he

2499
02:28:10,949 --> 02:28:16,199
play this clip, wrap, the RIP
mind control in the news, and

2500
02:28:16,199 --> 02:28:19,679
just listen, he discusses how
all these things are never

2501
02:28:19,679 --> 02:28:21,479
resolved on purpose.

2502
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:24,840
Let's just follow this in the
coming weeks and months, just

2503
02:28:24,840 --> 02:28:30,540
the way we followed the swine
flu, Fast and Furious Benghazi,

2504
02:28:31,170 --> 02:28:37,950
the IRS treatment of applicants
for nonprofit status, the spying

2505
02:28:37,980 --> 02:28:44,400
on reporters, the AP and Fox and
Sheryl acticin, etc, etc, etc.

2506
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:46,740
And let's just see where they
really end up. Do they really

2507
02:28:46,740 --> 02:28:52,170
end up anywhere? No, they don't
end up anywhere. And that's part

2508
02:28:52,170 --> 02:28:58,980
of my work. You know, as a
journalist to point this out to

2509
02:28:58,980 --> 02:29:04,650
people, they don't end up
anywhere. And so some people

2510
02:29:04,650 --> 02:29:11,070
take this as a sign that I'm not
on board with the whatever the

2511
02:29:11,070 --> 02:29:16,230
standard alternative news is
supposed to be. Because if I

2512
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:20,280
were that I would be elevating
Snowden to some great position

2513
02:29:20,280 --> 02:29:23,370
in the sky, but what I'm saying
is no, you don't understand

2514
02:29:23,370 --> 02:29:27,180
these stories don't have an
ending, don't you see? They've

2515
02:29:27,180 --> 02:29:30,090
never had an ending. And you can
go back as far as you want to in

2516
02:29:30,090 --> 02:29:34,350
history, and you will see that.
And so this is what you have to

2517
02:29:34,350 --> 02:29:38,460
learn. This is sort of the meta
level of understanding of

2518
02:29:38,460 --> 02:29:41,790
information in the news. These
stories don't have an ending.

2519
02:29:42,030 --> 02:29:46,200
And there's a reason for that.
And, and that's why you have to

2520
02:29:46,200 --> 02:29:49,860
understand what mind control
really is. And what hypnosis

2521
02:29:49,860 --> 02:29:53,640
really is and what a trance
really is, in order to really

2522
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:56,640
get a perspective on what the
news really is.

2523
02:29:58,650 --> 02:30:03,030
Okay, Let me see it won't take
long before someone comes out

2524
02:30:03,030 --> 02:30:07,020
with a story. John Rapoport has
freaked out. He is a conspiracy

2525
02:30:07,020 --> 02:30:11,130
theorists crackpot, he is not to
be trusted. And he's on drugs.

2526
02:30:11,550 --> 02:30:14,910
Well, there's all those, the
others. And he also has this

2527
02:30:14,910 --> 02:30:17,790
other one, I got this other
little clip from him, where it

2528
02:30:17,790 --> 02:30:20,520
just a shorty and his TED talks
about which I think is kind of

2529
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:24,030
interesting. In itself, even
though I think that that clip

2530
02:30:24,030 --> 02:30:27,390
you just heard is real is a
great clip. Yeah, that's his

2531
02:30:27,390 --> 02:30:30,720
rationale for understanding of
the media. And this is a little

2532
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:32,580
one that's kind of just kind of
a cute clip.

2533
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:37,230
Sure. But we're talking about
monster agencies here with huge

2534
02:30:37,230 --> 02:30:41,220
numbers of people and billions
and billions in funding and who

2535
02:30:41,220 --> 02:30:46,080
knows what else they're doing on
the side to line their pockets.

2536
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:55,110
And so how policy secret
internal policy is, formed and

2537
02:30:55,110 --> 02:31:00,690
shaped over years of this inter
relational inter agency warfare

2538
02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:05,640
is just another matter entirely
separate from that. And it does

2539
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,520
take place and yes, you're
right. Many of these people have

2540
02:31:08,520 --> 02:31:12,630
already sold out completely to
the globalist vision, so they

2541
02:31:12,630 --> 02:31:16,140
don't really care what happens
to America, as this is so sad.

2542
02:31:16,410 --> 02:31:21,450
Mickey and I were talking this
morning. Remember, the the

2543
02:31:21,450 --> 02:31:24,750
soldier who was on our plane, we
came back from vacation, and,

2544
02:31:25,230 --> 02:31:28,650
and you know, he wasn't in a
coffin, obviously. And we got

2545
02:31:28,650 --> 02:31:31,290
the picture of that, as he was
he was explaining right termite

2546
02:31:31,290 --> 02:31:35,790
shot. So I found out from Agent
Orange, who's, you know, who can

2547
02:31:35,790 --> 02:31:38,970
find out anything pretty much
and military? said, Yeah, I want

2548
02:31:38,970 --> 02:31:42,990
to know who this who this kid
was. And he was, I think 22. And

2549
02:31:43,230 --> 02:31:46,350
the language that was used in
the report about him is he

2550
02:31:46,380 --> 02:31:48,990
basically, I think, we're pretty
sure he committed suicide in

2551
02:31:48,990 --> 02:31:52,890
Germany. And you know, so then
that's the real bummer. When you

2552
02:31:52,890 --> 02:31:55,890
think about you want it's one
thing to, we have this stupid,

2553
02:31:55,890 --> 02:32:00,120
crazy war against something
invisible, and people getting

2554
02:32:00,120 --> 02:32:04,260
blown up and maimed and killed.
That's another thing that people

2555
02:32:04,290 --> 02:32:06,750
end and I've been over there,
these kids are freaked out.

2556
02:32:06,750 --> 02:32:09,330
They're like, What the fuck are
we doing here? This was nuts.

2557
02:32:09,780 --> 02:32:11,580
And then, you know, they freak
out. And then they wind up

2558
02:32:11,580 --> 02:32:14,430
killing themselves. And so you,
but I think when Mickey said is

2559
02:32:14,430 --> 02:32:19,110
like, what, what is it? Does
this result in anything? Are

2560
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:21,870
these wars good for anything?
And I said, No, it's all about

2561
02:32:21,870 --> 02:32:25,320
money. It's about money and
power. And we're all of us as

2562
02:32:25,320 --> 02:32:29,100
people in not the globalist
vision, which is cannon fodder.

2563
02:32:29,670 --> 02:32:34,020
It's all about money, all about
money and power and resources.

2564
02:32:34,020 --> 02:32:36,360
And we're irrelevant. And

2565
02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:43,800
well, it's the way it is. I wish
I had saved I had a clip once

2566
02:32:43,800 --> 02:32:46,440
and we never use it or whatever.
But it was one of these from

2567
02:32:46,950 --> 02:32:51,420
some army spokesman. They've
made the claim that the suicides

2568
02:32:51,420 --> 02:32:55,920
are turns out. It's not really
good. It turns out, there's no

2569
02:32:55,920 --> 02:33:01,200
connection between the suicides
and multiple deployments. That's

2570
02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:01,530
what there's

2571
02:33:02,010 --> 02:33:06,090
no connection whatsoever. I was
in Iraq. And the first night I

2572
02:33:06,090 --> 02:33:10,590
was in Iraq, I was just talking
to Marines. Okay, Marines. And

2573
02:33:10,620 --> 02:33:14,670
these Marines were six foot
seven. And all of a sudden, the

2574
02:33:14,670 --> 02:33:18,030
guy just breaks down crying. And
he's like, he's falling into my

2575
02:33:18,030 --> 02:33:24,150
arms crying a huge Marine. Now,
granted, he was 20. And he's

2576
02:33:24,150 --> 02:33:28,590
just like, I could, I guess
there was, I don't know what

2577
02:33:28,590 --> 02:33:31,830
button I hit. But he was just
freaking out, because he didn't

2578
02:33:31,830 --> 02:33:34,080
know what he was doing there. He
didn't know he didn't want to

2579
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:37,320
kill children of just because
they're brown and live in sand

2580
02:33:37,470 --> 02:33:42,390
and not doing anything wrong.
The whole thing is wrong. Sorry,

2581
02:33:42,690 --> 02:33:44,040
I didn't mean to get on that
tangent.

2582
02:33:44,370 --> 02:33:49,530
resolve to do. I'm sorry. Well,
anyway, this guy believes this

2583
02:33:49,530 --> 02:33:53,700
whole thing is in history, and
he dissected deconstructed

2584
02:33:53,700 --> 02:33:56,010
Snowdens all the stories,
because none of them make any

2585
02:33:56,010 --> 02:33:58,470
sense. None of them make any
sense. He was here and he was

2586
02:33:58,470 --> 02:34:01,080
supposed to be this computer
guy. And they joined the army.

2587
02:34:01,080 --> 02:34:03,390
And they made him special
forces, because he was a US high

2588
02:34:03,390 --> 02:34:06,480
school dropout, but a computer
genius. He breaks two legs. And

2589
02:34:06,480 --> 02:34:08,400
then they get rid of him. He
says why would they get rid of

2590
02:34:08,400 --> 02:34:11,490
him? He's, he's a computer guy
doesn't make him his laser don't

2591
02:34:11,490 --> 02:34:13,980
need that don't evil. And he
goes on with every one of these

2592
02:34:13,980 --> 02:34:16,290
stories. And he says the only
thing that only thing that makes

2593
02:34:16,290 --> 02:34:19,710
any sense is that, that in fact,
if you listen to the Rachel

2594
02:34:19,710 --> 02:34:23,550
Maddow clip, she's all in on
this play that Rachel Maddow

2595
02:34:23,550 --> 02:34:25,770
shows rare skepticism clip.

2596
02:34:26,550 --> 02:34:30,600
I think that when you balance
what the government needs to do

2597
02:34:30,600 --> 02:34:33,060
in order to keep us safe, that's
one of the things you need to do

2598
02:34:33,060 --> 02:34:36,360
when needed in order to even
have the argument reasonably is

2599
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:38,970
to know whether what they are
doing actually does keep us

2600
02:34:38,970 --> 02:34:44,970
safe. And that's why the NSA is
failures to even know what Ed

2601
02:34:44,970 --> 02:34:48,180
Snowden took from them seemed to
me like an important seemed to

2602
02:34:48,180 --> 02:34:50,820
me like an important thing. If
they don't even know what

2603
02:34:50,820 --> 02:34:53,760
they've got. And they don't know
when something's gone, then I'm

2604
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:56,220
not sure I want to trust them
with everything that they're

2605
02:34:56,220 --> 02:34:57,210
taking. Here's

2606
02:34:57,240 --> 02:35:01,050
here's the thing, John, more
people heard Rachel Maddow say

2607
02:35:01,050 --> 02:35:04,260
that from this podcast then when
it originally airs is

2608
02:35:04,260 --> 02:35:07,740
true. But there are people that
listen to her. Anyway. So this

2609
02:35:07,740 --> 02:35:10,770
guy's thinking is following me
and he like he goes through the

2610
02:35:10,770 --> 02:35:13,920
whole thing about Snowden, which
we have actually already done. I

2611
02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:14,100
think

2612
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:17,460
we've done I'm almost kind of
tired of it, because now, here's

2613
02:35:17,460 --> 02:35:19,230
the thing, their agenda.

2614
02:35:19,590 --> 02:35:22,560
Well, we're propagating the
somebody's agenda, whatever, but

2615
02:35:22,560 --> 02:35:25,830
we're just discussing it. So his
thinking is, is that Snowden

2616
02:35:25,830 --> 02:35:31,200
being the CIA guy, that's that
he never got any of this

2617
02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:33,750
information. Since there's no
way these systems don't have all

2618
02:35:33,750 --> 02:35:38,370
kinds of blocks. And in fact, if
you try to do a lot of stuff on

2619
02:35:38,370 --> 02:35:41,430
the on any government computer,
there's a lot of roadblocks and

2620
02:35:41,430 --> 02:35:44,670
even if you're the sysop, it
doesn't make a lot of sense to

2621
02:35:44,670 --> 02:35:49,080
him. And with that in mind that
the NSA doesn't know what

2622
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:53,400
Snowden took, which means
there's no logs of any sort,

2623
02:35:53,430 --> 02:35:58,050
which is bullcrap point, there's
good logs of everything. He was

2624
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:02,280
given all this material,
according to Rapoport by the CIA

2625
02:36:02,880 --> 02:36:06,810
to leak it, because the damned
NSA is getting a big budget

2626
02:36:06,810 --> 02:36:09,270
increase. Well, the CIA is
getting their budget cut, and

2627
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:11,220
they're not putting up with it
anymore. And there

2628
02:36:11,220 --> 02:36:13,560
you go. That's it. This is well
that's what we've said from day

2629
02:36:13,560 --> 02:36:19,500
one. Yeah. No more fake news.com
I think is John Rapoport. site

2630
02:36:19,500 --> 02:36:22,320
looks pretty cool. I'm gonna I'm
gonna He's got an RSS feed. I

2631
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:26,190
hope I'll subscribe to that. And
now that I see is picture I'm

2632
02:36:26,190 --> 02:36:29,280
like, I know this guy. You said
was CBS maybe he might have been

2633
02:36:29,280 --> 02:36:33,060
done Seesmic report. Jimmy also
run for them. Hold on a second.

2634
02:36:33,090 --> 02:36:34,740
Yeah, he ran for office and
lost.

2635
02:36:36,330 --> 02:36:39,360
Oh, well, you're gonna tell the
truth. No, no, you can't be a

2636
02:36:39,360 --> 02:36:42,570
part of our club. Get out of
here. All right. Let me play you

2637
02:36:42,570 --> 02:36:47,100
were Sharpton clip to lift our
mood. This is this is a classic

2638
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:50,790
Sharpton flub. It's hard to come
by. Yeah, there

2639
02:36:50,790 --> 02:36:53,730
are getting more difficult to
find. Because I think they do

2640
02:36:53,730 --> 02:36:54,360
post on him.

2641
02:36:56,250 --> 02:36:59,820
I think they have a 22nd delay
just to edit the stupid shit out

2642
02:36:59,820 --> 02:37:03,930
that he says. So this is for
some reason. This is about I

2643
02:37:03,930 --> 02:37:06,180
don't know, I'm not following
any of this. And again, no one

2644
02:37:06,180 --> 02:37:11,640
watches this. No one's watching
these channels. This is Sharpton

2645
02:37:11,640 --> 02:37:15,390
talking about Senator Cruz
apparently has handed in his

2646
02:37:15,390 --> 02:37:20,520
birth certificate. He was born
in Canadia, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

2647
02:37:20,520 --> 02:37:23,400
And which is speculating,
fueling speculation that he

2648
02:37:23,400 --> 02:37:26,490
might run for president
whatever. But here's a classic

2649
02:37:26,490 --> 02:37:29,760
Sharpton flub on this non
interesting topic of news.

2650
02:37:29,789 --> 02:37:34,859
We're back with more on the
continuing saga of Ted Cruz,

2651
02:37:35,009 --> 02:37:39,959
Canadian by birth, extremists by
choice, just released his

2652
02:37:39,959 --> 02:37:44,339
Canadian birth certificate this
weekend, starting talk over

2653
02:37:44,339 --> 02:37:48,899
whether he's eligible to run for
president since his mother was

2654
02:37:48,899 --> 02:37:54,389
American. Experts agree Senator
Cruz was a US senator from

2655
02:37:54,389 --> 02:37:56,129
birth. Eligible.

2656
02:37:56,699 --> 02:38:03,569
Here we go. A US senator from
birth is what he was. What an

2657
02:38:03,569 --> 02:38:04,229
idiot.

2658
02:38:04,710 --> 02:38:05,550
That's a good one.

2659
02:38:06,810 --> 02:38:08,580
And did you hear the latest
Manning?

2660
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:13,560
No. Besides the changing his
name to Chelsea Clinton?

2661
02:38:14,279 --> 02:38:17,729
No, no, I mean, Reverend Manning
Oh, the No, I have I actually

2662
02:38:17,730 --> 02:38:21,840
this is my day. You're stepping
on my toes here. Do you have a

2663
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:24,540
Manning? Do you have the MO but
I mean, I go back and hit the

2664
02:38:24,540 --> 02:38:25,800
Well, every so often for

2665
02:38:28,140 --> 02:38:33,450
this one is classic. Only a
black Reverend could say this.

2666
02:38:33,780 --> 02:38:38,280
And I just love this guy. The
way he is just funny the way he

2667
02:38:38,280 --> 02:38:39,060
says stuff

2668
02:38:40,170 --> 02:38:47,130
that this man failed. We gave a
black man. We gave a black man,

2669
02:38:47,730 --> 02:38:51,360
the highest prize in the
universe. And then after that,

2670
02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:53,970
we gave him the Nobel Prize for
Peace. Even though he didn't

2671
02:38:53,970 --> 02:38:59,220
earn it. We gave him everything
that he needed to succeed. We

2672
02:38:59,220 --> 02:39:02,940
gave him everything that he
needed to succeed. We gave them

2673
02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:06,630
everything he needed to lead his
people. We gave them everything

2674
02:39:06,630 --> 02:39:09,840
he needed to help black people.
We gave them everything he

2675
02:39:09,840 --> 02:39:12,540
needed to change the world and
the dynamics of black people. We

2676
02:39:12,540 --> 02:39:15,840
gave him everything to heal
slavery. We gave him the

2677
02:39:15,840 --> 02:39:19,680
presidency, and we gave him the
Nobel Prize for Peace. We gave

2678
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:24,000
him everything. And the nigga
fail.

2679
02:39:25,830 --> 02:39:30,180
It's like Richard Pryor. The guy
is phenomenal.

2680
02:39:31,260 --> 02:39:33,390
Yeah, you're right, man, man.
He's only getting get away with

2681
02:39:33,390 --> 02:39:33,840
it now.

2682
02:39:33,900 --> 02:39:36,750
Hey, I want to thank everybody
for all of the research on the

2683
02:39:36,750 --> 02:39:38,970
birth of foundation. I think
we've pretty much figured it

2684
02:39:38,970 --> 02:39:43,830
out. And guess what? Okay, it
seems like we actually have a

2685
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:49,200
good guy. Oh, yeah. So okay, so

2686
02:39:49,260 --> 02:39:50,430
why be hiding?

2687
02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:54,810
Well, this well, there's a
number of reasons possibly. So

2688
02:39:54,810 --> 02:39:58,440
this all goes so remember Laura
two bots. Nick is the CEO and

2689
02:39:58,440 --> 02:40:00,300
founder of the birth of
foundation, the birther

2690
02:40:00,300 --> 02:40:04,020
foundation is this outfit that
is just handing out money left

2691
02:40:04,020 --> 02:40:08,130
and right mainly to fund
documentaries. So I thought it

2692
02:40:08,130 --> 02:40:11,460
stopped with Laura but actually
it all stems from her father

2693
02:40:11,460 --> 02:40:15,840
Anthony or aka Tony two bots
Nick. Now Tony two bought snake

2694
02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:19,650
and and all of this research is
in the shownotes and it's quite

2695
02:40:19,650 --> 02:40:24,570
in depth and people have gone
gotten I mean the our show is so

2696
02:40:24,570 --> 02:40:27,000
phenomenal when you see the
research people have gotten

2697
02:40:27,240 --> 02:40:31,620
documents from Swiss business
registries from South Africa. We

2698
02:40:31,620 --> 02:40:34,470
know everything there is to know
that's available about the

2699
02:40:34,470 --> 02:40:39,930
Tabata Nick family. And but in a
nutshell 22 bots, Nick started

2700
02:40:39,960 --> 02:40:44,370
made billions of dollars. In
fact, he sold his company to

2701
02:40:44,370 --> 02:40:49,080
mark BV that registered in the
Netherlands by making generic

2702
02:40:49,080 --> 02:40:54,750
drugs by finding loopholes in in
trademark copyright and patent

2703
02:40:54,750 --> 02:40:59,010
law. So we started very early on
making generic drugs, you know,

2704
02:40:59,010 --> 02:41:02,550
selling them making a killing.
And then Merck basically said,

2705
02:41:02,550 --> 02:41:05,160
Well screw this guy, we're gonna
buy him so he sold out for you

2706
02:41:05,160 --> 02:41:08,190
know, one point what happened to
most generic drugs? Oh, yeah. So

2707
02:41:08,190 --> 02:41:11,250
now Merck generic or the
generic, it is Merck generics.

2708
02:41:11,430 --> 02:41:15,030
So we made, you know, billions
of dollars. And he decided that

2709
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:20,220
he was going to put a lot of his
money to good work by and this

2710
02:41:20,220 --> 02:41:24,600
is what's interesting. He is
what's known as and I found a

2711
02:41:24,600 --> 02:41:27,420
whole bunch of links here. They
call them the self hating Jews.

2712
02:41:28,230 --> 02:41:30,630
And yeah, and to Boston, yell

2713
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:33,720
about the self hating Jews and
self loathing is usually the way

2714
02:41:33,720 --> 02:41:34,440
it's referred to,

2715
02:41:34,470 --> 02:41:37,380
well, I'm just reading what I
have in writing, not my own

2716
02:41:37,380 --> 02:41:44,250
personal, whatever. So here is
he is part of a large group,

2717
02:41:44,280 --> 02:41:46,650
particularly British, but
they're also in the United

2718
02:41:46,650 --> 02:41:53,430
States. Jews who are very angry
at Israeli policy, particularly

2719
02:41:53,430 --> 02:41:59,010
as it relates to Palestine. And
so if you go and you look at, at

2720
02:41:59,010 --> 02:42:02,700
the movies that he's financing
or indirectly financing, but

2721
02:42:02,700 --> 02:42:06,450
his, I think it's his son, Neil,
he's an executive producer,

2722
02:42:06,450 --> 02:42:09,840
there's this whole, the whole
Seth to Bod snake and it's just

2723
02:42:09,840 --> 02:42:14,370
tons of Tabata snakes all in, in
movies and documentaries,

2724
02:42:14,370 --> 02:42:18,630
mainly, the ones that are
financed are against American

2725
02:42:19,170 --> 02:42:23,490
policy that is that influences
Israel, or directly against

2726
02:42:23,490 --> 02:42:27,870
Israeli policy, as it relates to
Palestine. And very interesting.

2727
02:42:28,380 --> 02:42:32,250
So this money and and, you know,
I'm neither here nor there on

2728
02:42:32,250 --> 02:42:35,700
whatever's going on in, in the
Middle East, because I know,

2729
02:42:36,060 --> 02:42:39,510
cheese has been going on my
entire life. But the idea that

2730
02:42:39,510 --> 02:42:41,460
he's taking his money and
putting it into these

2731
02:42:41,460 --> 02:42:44,670
documentaries, I think is kind
of interesting. I have to say, I

2732
02:42:44,670 --> 02:42:49,140
couldn't really find anything.
And he looks like a like a weird

2733
02:42:49,140 --> 02:42:50,670
hippie. This,

2734
02:42:51,179 --> 02:42:55,619
these type of this, this group
is a very pro puppet, they're

2735
02:42:55,619 --> 02:42:59,639
the ones in the bumper stickers
are all over Berkeley, you stop

2736
02:42:59,999 --> 02:43:03,119
is stopped Israeli occupation of
Palestine.

2737
02:43:03,300 --> 02:43:06,600
Well, I'm against the this
killing that's going on, for

2738
02:43:06,600 --> 02:43:09,600
sure. And it seems like killing
is unfortunate that's going on

2739
02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:10,050
there is a

2740
02:43:10,050 --> 02:43:14,460
dual responsibility problem. And
there have been opportunities,

2741
02:43:14,460 --> 02:43:19,560
especially during the Arafat
regime to solve these problems.

2742
02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:23,670
And when one sides agrees to do
it, the other side refuses. And

2743
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:27,510
there was a really good number
of potentials that took place

2744
02:43:27,510 --> 02:43:30,960
came and went. And a lot of
people believe that the a lot of

2745
02:43:30,960 --> 02:43:34,710
it has to do with the kind of a
certain type of specific

2746
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:38,010
corruption that you find in the
especially in the Palestine

2747
02:43:38,010 --> 02:43:41,850
area. But it's, you know, yeah,
if you want to, I don't know if

2748
02:43:41,850 --> 02:43:44,760
this seems to be pretty targeted
to me. So that's why he's

2749
02:43:44,760 --> 02:43:48,660
hiding, because he knows there's
a bunch of Yes, other Jews that

2750
02:43:48,690 --> 02:43:51,720
would take offense at this one
guy spending all this money on

2751
02:43:51,720 --> 02:43:53,310
this one thing. And it was

2752
02:43:53,340 --> 02:43:57,240
what's funny about it is here is
I had to chuckle and I'll just

2753
02:43:57,240 --> 02:44:00,030
say it because on this podcast,
I can. I've said this in

2754
02:44:00,030 --> 02:44:03,360
mainstream media before and got
in big trouble for it. But

2755
02:44:03,360 --> 02:44:07,770
here's an example of a Jew
influencing the media says you

2756
02:44:07,770 --> 02:44:14,100
can't you can't ignore what is
happening. And it's Yeah, I had

2757
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:18,540
said that once in in Holland.
And I had to I have got called

2758
02:44:18,540 --> 02:44:22,380
out newspapers and you're an
anti Semite. And it was it was

2759
02:44:22,380 --> 02:44:29,490
crazy. And I said, Look at this,
anyway. Yeah. Irrelevant. So

2760
02:44:29,490 --> 02:44:32,640
that's, that's what's going on
with this guy. Well,

2761
02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:36,060
then we that's all we need to do
with them, then we know Yeah,

2762
02:44:36,090 --> 02:44:40,170
essentially pro Palestinian
Jewish guy who's gonna just

2763
02:44:40,170 --> 02:44:41,310
throw money at a problem. Well,

2764
02:44:41,310 --> 02:44:45,660
also No, but I think the what
what you're seeing is any

2765
02:44:45,690 --> 02:44:52,290
project that is anti American is
support of Israel, of the

2766
02:44:52,320 --> 02:44:53,970
current Israeli regime.

2767
02:44:54,030 --> 02:44:57,540
Yeah, well, probably coming from
his from his pocket book.

2768
02:44:57,540 --> 02:44:58,110
Exactly.

2769
02:44:58,110 --> 02:45:03,720
And just as a side No, I found
out that Roger roger waters of

2770
02:45:03,750 --> 02:45:09,060
Pink Floyd Fein is now reading
leading this whole kind of like

2771
02:45:09,930 --> 02:45:12,900
remember the Sun City thing with
Bruce Springsteen, Steve Van

2772
02:45:12,900 --> 02:45:15,270
Sant and the street and all
these guys like one place on

2773
02:45:15,270 --> 02:45:19,650
city, which because of apartheid
in South Africa right so Roger

2774
02:45:19,650 --> 02:45:22,500
Waters is trying to set
something up like that and and

2775
02:45:22,500 --> 02:45:26,940
using the same apartheid words
and trying to get everyone to

2776
02:45:26,940 --> 02:45:29,850
stop playing in Israel.

2777
02:45:31,470 --> 02:45:32,490
How original

2778
02:45:35,070 --> 02:45:36,870
that's well that's what these
guys do.

2779
02:45:37,619 --> 02:45:41,609
Yeah All right well, I don't
think that's gonna go anywhere

2780
02:45:41,609 --> 02:45:42,749
but we're gonna see what
happens.

2781
02:45:43,560 --> 02:45:46,530
But I just thought it was
interesting that we know here's

2782
02:45:46,530 --> 02:45:48,750
this guy and he's fun Yeah, and
by the way, you know

2783
02:45:48,750 --> 02:45:52,320
you gotta definitely found the
guy you dug him up and you we

2784
02:45:52,320 --> 02:45:54,780
had a lot of help. And we got to
the bottom of the whole thing

2785
02:45:54,780 --> 02:45:57,840
and but it turns out to be not
that interesting, but I can

2786
02:45:57,960 --> 02:45:58,620
always hide it,

2787
02:45:58,620 --> 02:46:01,800
but you have to take it further
because he's financing Laura

2788
02:46:01,800 --> 02:46:06,270
Poitras, who is and you know,
he's financing all of these

2789
02:46:06,270 --> 02:46:09,030
people that are involved with
the Snowden stuff. So yeah, I

2790
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:09,210
know

2791
02:46:09,210 --> 02:46:13,140
that's the North fishy part. We
have to figure out why. What is

2792
02:46:13,170 --> 02:46:16,710
Poydras gonna Well, she did a
pro No, she's the one who did

2793
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:20,940
the pro Iraq thing that were the
you know that she followed them

2794
02:46:20,940 --> 02:46:23,820
to her original documentary,
which is my country, my country

2795
02:46:23,820 --> 02:46:26,190
or whatever, my country, my
country with this guy. And it

2796
02:46:26,190 --> 02:46:30,060
was just it was very scathing, I
suppose the what's his name?

2797
02:46:30,990 --> 02:46:34,020
That guy was on everything
should what's his name? That guy

2798
02:46:34,020 --> 02:46:37,140
with the beard who did did the
documentary that was so popular

2799
02:46:37,140 --> 02:46:40,530
for a while, the guy with the
beard to game? You know, this

2800
02:46:40,530 --> 02:46:43,290
guy? Yeah. Who was the guy

2801
02:46:43,290 --> 02:46:44,130
with the beard?

2802
02:46:44,160 --> 02:46:47,880
The guy who kept showing up? We
had clips of him. He's the one

2803
02:46:47,880 --> 02:46:51,270
who did this story about how
we're screwing everybody. You

2804
02:46:51,270 --> 02:46:56,100
know, divorcing is a scam. I
can't remember this. But he's

2805
02:46:56,100 --> 02:46:59,250
part of the he was, if I looked
up, this guy could find it. Or

2806
02:46:59,250 --> 02:47:02,400
the foundation, I'd find his
name we've had we've talked

2807
02:47:02,400 --> 02:47:03,750
about it a million times.

2808
02:47:03,780 --> 02:47:05,850
I can't come up with it. I
believe you. I just can't I

2809
02:47:05,850 --> 02:47:07,350
can't think of the guy with a
beard.

2810
02:47:08,009 --> 02:47:12,449
His name is on a couple of
clips. Very entertaining guys

2811
02:47:12,449 --> 02:47:15,089
always on the Democracy Now. And

2812
02:47:16,110 --> 02:47:18,840
like a long beard or short, big
little short

2813
02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:23,160
douchebag beard is kind of
scruffy. You should be seeing

2814
02:47:23,160 --> 02:47:25,260
him by now. My fine description?

2815
02:47:26,430 --> 02:47:31,860
No, I'm just racking my brain.
racking your brain. I am racking

2816
02:47:31,860 --> 02:47:33,810
my brain. Anyway,

2817
02:47:33,840 --> 02:47:37,350
guys. So newest is the newest
hot movie that's floating around

2818
02:47:37,380 --> 02:47:41,640
about the surveillance state
awards, the whole thing.

2819
02:47:42,060 --> 02:47:46,140
So I think you can take this a
step further. And so it may be

2820
02:47:46,140 --> 02:47:49,080
it's just his kids that are
shelling out the money and that

2821
02:47:49,080 --> 02:47:51,720
people are taking advantage of
it, which I think is very

2822
02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:55,620
feasible. But in everything that
is essentially anti Israeli

2823
02:47:55,620 --> 02:48:02,250
American imperialistic motives,
which is the war in Iraq and

2824
02:48:02,250 --> 02:48:04,860
Afghanistan. You could say that
that's all a part of it. He

2825
02:48:04,860 --> 02:48:08,670
seems to be wanting to finance
that stuff. Yeah, well,

2826
02:48:08,670 --> 02:48:10,950
somebody's got to do it. Jeremy
Scahill.

2827
02:48:11,070 --> 02:48:13,260
Yeah, there you go. Somebody in
the chat room.

2828
02:48:13,290 --> 02:48:16,200
Yeah, of course. I didn't know I
had it. But yeah, the Dirty Wars

2829
02:48:16,200 --> 02:48:16,500
guy.

2830
02:48:16,530 --> 02:48:18,900
Exactly. Dirty Wars. That guy.
That is fine.

2831
02:48:18,930 --> 02:48:21,960
That's his son, Neil. So Neil
was the executive producer on

2832
02:48:21,960 --> 02:48:25,320
that one. But how does it tie in
to the Snowden stuff? That's

2833
02:48:25,320 --> 02:48:26,100
what's that?

2834
02:48:26,130 --> 02:48:26,490
That's,

2835
02:48:26,520 --> 02:48:27,510
that's what's puzzling, you

2836
02:48:27,660 --> 02:48:29,880
know, the question unless
they're, well, you know,

2837
02:48:29,880 --> 02:48:33,930
Poitras, of course, was Did one
of the movies for him, which was

2838
02:48:34,260 --> 02:48:37,470
right down, right down the line
of the checklist that you just

2839
02:48:37,530 --> 02:48:40,740
cited. Yeah, you did that. Now.
Maybe she's working on something

2840
02:48:40,740 --> 02:48:44,460
similar. And she's we don't know
what it is. And maybe that's

2841
02:48:44,460 --> 02:48:47,730
what the exchange of these data
documents about because we're

2842
02:48:47,730 --> 02:48:52,350
under the complete and I'm all
in on the fact that Snowden gave

2843
02:48:53,250 --> 02:48:57,450
Glenn Greenwald everything. He's
got it all so there's no reason

2844
02:48:57,450 --> 02:49:01,530
to talk anymore. Go do his own
thing. Right. So that so the,

2845
02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:04,050
maybe something else going on,
which is maybe

2846
02:49:04,050 --> 02:49:07,410
How about how about this? How
about there was someone else

2847
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:12,390
accompanying David Miranda, and
this was part of the documentary

2848
02:49:12,420 --> 02:49:16,620
and at least his incarceration
or temporary incarceration was

2849
02:49:16,620 --> 02:49:17,160
filmed.

2850
02:49:19,800 --> 02:49:21,330
That could be because he did
come

2851
02:49:21,330 --> 02:49:24,900
from portress. And she said,
Okay, here's here's my, here's

2852
02:49:24,900 --> 02:49:29,310
my boy, Wolfgang, he's gonna fly
with you, and you're gonna have

2853
02:49:29,310 --> 02:49:32,700
the GoPro and you're gonna get
yourself arrested. And you'll

2854
02:49:32,700 --> 02:49:35,340
have you'll have recording
devices and everything you'll

2855
02:49:35,340 --> 02:49:37,890
get some of it won't get all of
it, but I'll get some of it. And

2856
02:49:37,890 --> 02:49:40,620
you'll get a lot of that back.
It's

2857
02:49:41,970 --> 02:49:45,450
Yeah, something's up. Yeah,
movie movie time being you duped

2858
02:49:45,450 --> 02:49:48,930
again. The public. Moving into
idiots. I've made more money

2859
02:49:48,930 --> 02:49:49,590
than we do.

2860
02:49:50,910 --> 02:49:53,880
That's okay. I'm having more fun
than they are.

2861
02:49:54,480 --> 02:49:58,020
Well, I can speak for yourself.

2862
02:49:58,980 --> 02:50:02,070
I am speaking from my So often I
do it with great pleasure.

2863
02:50:03,060 --> 02:50:06,060
So if when I go visit Gibraltar,
I'm going to take a drive up the

2864
02:50:06,060 --> 02:50:07,980
ACE seven and go to Malaga.

2865
02:50:08,370 --> 02:50:14,970
Malaga, Malaga. And you say
Mulago. I say Malaga depends.

2866
02:50:15,840 --> 02:50:17,160
You get a good wine there.

2867
02:50:18,570 --> 02:50:22,800
Alright everybody that is it.
For today's program reminder,

2868
02:50:22,830 --> 02:50:27,840
we'll be back on Sunday and we
do need your help. For the

2869
02:50:27,840 --> 02:50:35,010
research we're doing to keep us
rolling devora.org/n A and get

2870
02:50:35,010 --> 02:50:40,710
rid of those just get off Gmail.
Someone else plays coming to you

2871
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:46,080
from the capital of the drone
star states. I am Adam Chelsea

2872
02:50:46,080 --> 02:50:46,980
curry in the morning.

2873
02:50:47,490 --> 02:50:50,460
And from Northern Silicon
Valley. I'm John shell C.

2874
02:50:50,460 --> 02:50:50,910
Dvorak.

2875
02:50:51,090 --> 02:50:54,150
We'll talk to you again on
Sunday, right here on no agenda.

2876
02:51:10,740 --> 02:51:20,070
Adios mopho.org/n A