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We make stuff that goes on to
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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, May 19 2013.

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Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 514.

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This is no agenda.

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Partying like it's 1837 here in
the Travis heights hideout.

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We're so cool meets MoPhO in
Austin, Texas in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry.

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And from Northern Silicon
Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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What was that? Well, you cut it,
it was weird because the Skype

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connection cut out just says,
and I'm not like,

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Oh, really? Oh, I'm sorry. You
know, someone sent me an email

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about how to there is a way

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there is a way to use two copies
of Skype and then because it's

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essentially half duplex, Skype.
It's crazy. League is weird

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enough. And there's a way to do
it. So that you know you have

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you don't have that, where they
call it ducking. In fact, it's

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kind of a, you know, we're just
trying to it's competing with

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itself trying to decide what to
do. Yeah, yeah.

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So there's a way to do it. Screw
that. thing. Imagine having not

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one but two Skype Skype
connections to deal with. Just

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not not my idea of fun. Ah,
anyway, so honey. Oh, well, in

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the morning to you, John C dar
Tonio.

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And in the morning, all the
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the ground, and also the
substance of wanting to feet in

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the air and all the days and
nights out today. And of course,

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our human resources in the chat
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streaming server oil, sir Good
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Good to have you guys around.
And it is indeed very much like

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the Great Depression of 1837.
Someone pointed out to me the

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other day. And I read the book
of knowledge entry. I'm like,

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wow, the panic of 1837. I

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should call it. Yeah. So it was
it wasn't a true depression. No,

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but it was panic panics, which
is the one we're going to have

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in 2017. I thought it was now by
the way, I get the biggest kick

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out of the you know, the 40 year
cycle, which I'm always

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promoting, and

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promoting, like hoping

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for voting. It's it's a it's,
it's underway. I mean, it all

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the parallels are been coming in
like clockwork, during the Obama

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versus Nixon comparisons. The
Nixon was the president during

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the period during the depression
of the 70s. And we got the same

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kind of thing going on, and some
really good reports on what's

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what's, you know, the intense
attempt to stifle the media and

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all the rest of his fat
fascinating.

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Yeah, you know, I, I've seen it
but it to me, it seems like this

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is, you know, the, the minority
mainstream. Clearly, what do we

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what do we call it? We were
talking about this the other

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day, the corrupt minority known
as the mainstream minority,

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minorities, unlike us, guardians
of reality, that for some

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reason, they feel that it's
important, or maybe there's a

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voting contingent or someone who
gives a crap. I mean, you really

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have to be at least my age and
even I don't really care.

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Because I'm not quite old
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remember we were living in
Amsterdam, and I was maybe

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eight, maybe nine, I think. And
my grandmother was sending to my

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mom cassette tapes, because of
course, there was no satellite.

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No, CNN near the Dutch
television had two channels.

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They started at 7pm with the
same guy reading the same dumb

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news. And there was no
international media to speak of

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the way we today's kids know it.
So she would eat and mail with

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the post cassette tapes at which
you would call Of course, the

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Watergate tapes. And my mom
would listen to them and she

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listened to hours and hours of,
of Senate testimony.

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Yeah, it was on television,
actually. And I watched most of

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it in rap. I was a little kid
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fascinated by it. It was really
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characters and they were all a
couple of were weirdos and, and

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they're all Me,

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too. We had Clarence, Clarence
Thomas was kind of hard. Yeah,

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a lot. But that wasn't during a
depression moment. But no. Great

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favorite thing, though, is when
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these. These guys and I would
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pull them as I mentioned, one or
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called before Congress, and they
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perjuring yourself or doing
whatever. And I think John Dean

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was the master of this. Like
asked me a question, I'll show

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you the proper response.

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John, were you involved in
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I'm not sure I understand the
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preface everything with that?
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for lying, say, Oh, well, I made
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understand the question.
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I it's interesting. You say
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mic a little bit? I need a
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just not enough coming. Okay.
There's not enough coming out

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here today. All right. All
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Perfect. Oh, okay. That just
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makes a world of difference.
That this this administration,

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in particular president, these
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what they say, which I think is
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President is me. He was really,
he's really perfect for the job.

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He knows how to most of the time
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you can't catch him on anything.
Remember, during the debates, it

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was like, Well, you said it was
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it was in fact, even if he
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an act of terror. I mean, these
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they learned. And of course,
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they do it. You stick to the
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and you can never get caught the
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you get in trouble.

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Right? And they do kind of
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that's what we that's what we're

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that's why we're here. Guardians
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Let me play a couple of clips
about the Nixon, Obama

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comparison. Okay. Now there, I
have a bunch of clips, I have a

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background that kind of
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his ap stuff. But let's just
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in they had the democracy now
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considering what a poor job they
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stories. But they they didn't
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think they were flabbergasted.
They brought in the guy from the

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Pentagon Papers, The New York
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Supreme Court, because the Nixon
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York Times trying to bust them.
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the Pentagon, the Pentagon,
Pentagon Papers were Daniel

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Ellsberg worked for the RAND
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of the history of the beginnings
of the Vietnam War home with

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him. And then he transcribed
them. And he started leaking

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this document, which was the
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the to the New York Times and
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And after three days, the Nixon
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started suing everybody and
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stop the publication of this
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they couldn't do it because the
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on it. And they got stifled, but
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happened. And Nixon went after
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beginning of the end for the
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was it at the time. Because, you
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that you were really a part of
that. Was it really analogous to

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what we're seeing here? And you
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after the media, I mean, was
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the parallels are exactly the
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media is flat footed now. And it
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a compromise, compromise back
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investigating stuff. Well, they
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still compromised, but not to
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now they're flabbergasted. And
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quite as they can actually lose
this battle. And with these

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clips, you'll see that if they
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Julian Assange, by the way.
Yeah. So it makes it very

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interesting. That media has
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press at all. But let's play.
They asked the guy that from the

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New York Times from the L, the
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whether what Obama is doing
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what Nixon was doing. And I
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especially for all the Obama
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couple recently. Yeah.

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So I hear Wait, wait, wait,
stop. Do I bring that up now? Or

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do I bring that up?

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What the Pentagon Papers case is
about is censorship. And lawyers

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call it prior restraint. And
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all of a sudden, we were in
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really, we were in the Supreme
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it, because I believed and those
of the times believed that this

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was an outrage, and that the
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that the government had no
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not what we shouldn't print
sorry for double negative or

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what we should print and we put
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with a stick. rubber hose.

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So now let's go on to the Nixon
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discussed the Pentagon Papers a
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three. Oh, that's why Oh, no,
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no, no, I'm sorry. No, you're
right clip number. I have no

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idea what I'm doing here. I'm
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number three. What was the one
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Number three that you wanted to
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which is the one I wanted them
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making neck and neck? Yeah,
Nick. No. Yeah.

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That's so obvious from the point
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said number two? No,

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I didn't hear that. I'm sorry.
Can I play them out of order?

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And we'll pretend that we're
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No, this is fine. That clip was
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Well, for more, we turn to guest
two as a rather informed opinion

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on whether President Obama has
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in their targeting of the press
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information. Joining us here in
New York is James Godot. He is

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the counsel was the counsel for
the New York Times in the

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Pentagon Papers case, a leading
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Amendment has just published a
new book fighting for the press

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why the Pentagon Papers case
still matters. We welcome you to

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Democracy Now.

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Thank you very much for having
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You say that President Obama is
worse than President?

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Well, more precisely, I say that
if in fact it goes ahead and

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prosecutes Julian Assange, he
will pass and Nixon. He's he's

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close to Nixon. Now. The AP
example is a good example of

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something that Obama has done.
But Nixon never did. So I have

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him presently, in second place,
behind Nixon, and ahead of Bush

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two, and he's moving on fast.
And if he goes ahead against

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Assad regime, he'll he'll at
least be even and we'll have to

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see how that prosecution of it
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maybe you'll pass him.

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Well, that dovetails with
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Assange. But I think a hold on
to it to see where you were you.

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Okay, well, let's go to the next
which is clip four, we already

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know, the Pentagon Papers, and
censorship is just a small

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element where we come back to
Assange, it's this all comes

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back to our official purpose
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after the Pentagon Papers ended,
which was a case about

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censorship. Mitchell, who was
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very excited about prosecuting
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forgotten about that. So we
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because there was some evidence
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been circulated in the anti war
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published by The New York Times
and The theory was that the New

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York Times reporter, conspired
with those anti war protesters,

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and he was going to indict them
for conspiracy. So now fast

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forward, what is Obama doing?
He's convened a grand jury. We

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haven't heard about it. I think
it's still there. I think it may

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have even indicted Assange and
secrecy. But what's the charge

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conspiracy? Well, we don't
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lawyers and jump up and down
when they hear the word

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conspiracy. I just want to tell
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easy to prove conspiracy, very
hard to prove espionage under

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the Espionage Act. So what
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run and trying to get an easy
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convicted. Manning Caesar
convict Manning. Okay, so that

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easy conviction, then becomes
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Well, let me let me ask you a
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even though I hadn't really
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Assange angle here. I was the
and we'll get to it later why I

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was looking at Assange again
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WikiLeaks didn't, you know, take
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and put it online. They went to
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York Times Time Magazine, Der
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down and then collectively
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we want to publish. First, we'll
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by the way to see if they want
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whenever they all okay, well,
you can publish all that. Then

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they published it in mainstream
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you listen to the narrative, not
this, but the narrative in

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general, there is this belief
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information, published it
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killed. Yeah, that's not true.

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Right. Well, they did publish
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showed up in the New York Times.

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part they're bitching but I
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says there's apparently been a
grant a secret grand jury. A lot

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of stuff in this administration
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most true Is parent
administration in the universe?

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What are you talking about what
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is, and a secret indictment,
which is just waiting, which is

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the reason apparently Assange
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see, that was clip four. There's
this play five these are there's

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this one's a little long, but so
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interested in why you're taking
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this type of analysis anywhere.
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great. Yeah, play five, then

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wake up. There's danger out
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size. But wake up. The First
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damaged if Obama goes forward.
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of show, if he does, and it
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succeeded, where Nixon failed.

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Let's play a clip from WikiLeaks
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was on democracy. Now, last
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consequences of the Espionage
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Now, the new interpretation of
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Pentagon is trying to hammer in
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Department of Justice is
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of national security journalism
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only the United States, because
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this extra dude, extra
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the end of national security
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interpretation is that if any
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claims to be classified, is
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makes any part of it public,
that journalist has committed

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espionage, and the person who
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committed the crime
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Well, just a nice take. And now,
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years. And now you want to get
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by this. Number six is the
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clip. By the way, there's one
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there's a little gotcha, that I
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but PLAY CLIP six, and you get a
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what, what's going to happen to
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quite right about talking about
the threat to journalism with

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respect to the way Obama is
going about or prosecuting. What

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lawyers like to say is that, if
in fact, the prosecution goes

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forward, as Julian Assange has
said, it criminalizes news

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gathering, because I talk to you
and ask you to give me a secret

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or anything, but in fact, that
anything may be classified.

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We're all both gonna go off to
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Obama's is class classified, I
think, 7 million, in one year,

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classified 7 million documents,
everything's classified. So that

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would give the government the
ability to control all its

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information on the theory that's
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asked for it, and gets it,
they're complicit, and they're

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gonna go to jail. So that
criminalizes the process. And it

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means that the dissemination of
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out of the classified sources of
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stopped.

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So does this mean that Julian
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and was set up by the CIA, I
guess I will maybe, you know,

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some other agency. But he was
set up for all this to take

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place so that the redefinition
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could be redefined as espionage.
Is that what I'm here? I

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think, you know, I never would,
I didn't take it to that level.

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if you remember, over the last,
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half on this show, we have run a
lot of clips about over

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classification. We hadn't got
there was a lot of hearings

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about declassified documents,
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of sessions, we've never brought
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the larger picture, until this
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talking.

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Well, of course, whenever So,
today, in today's world, no

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matter what it is, whether it's
global warming, you just gotta

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immediately think global
cooling. If someone says most

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transparent in the university,
you gotta think they're locking

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it down. It's just it's, I know,
it sounds nuts, but this

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inversion, that's exactly where
you have to go. And you're

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usually this is the new outcomes
razor. But if whatever someone

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tells you just think the
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truth.

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You might want to just play
right now the little clip Nixon

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on heroes.

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Yeah. I think it is time in this
country to quit making national

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heroes out of those who steal
secrets and publish them in the

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news. Paper.

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Whoa, wait, do we don't we have
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That challenge is the 40 year
cycle? Wow.

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Great if not he, oh my goodness,
if not,

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here's a here's a secret tape
that Nixon made about Daniel

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Ellsberg and the Pentagon
Papers. And this is probably

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going on in the White House too.
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some guy is going to be a
martyr, we

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can't be in a position of
allowing the farmer to get away

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with this kind of wholesale
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going to happen all over the
government. I just say that we

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got to keep our eye on the main
ball. They mean balls, Ellsberg.

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We got to get this out. Yeah,
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And you use the IRS to do that?
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course you do. Now,

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I'll play one more. Another
offhanded clip, which is a

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little different, which is
Jeremy Scahill wrote this book

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called World is a battlefield.
Yeah. And this little summary,

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which is I have been fortunate
to have a clip twice. But to

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play this clip, and this kind of
summarize where we're kind of

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headed the content, I want to
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the world is battlefield.
Actually, it's not something I

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thought up. It's a doctrine,
actually a military doctrine,

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called operational preparation
of the battlespace, which views

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the world is a battlefield. And
what it says is that if there

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are countries where you predict
where the military predicts that

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conflicts are likely, or that
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forward deploy troops to those
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battlefield. And under both Bush
and Obama, the world has been

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declared the battlefield, you
know that the authorization for

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the use of military force that
was passed after 911 is is

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technically the law that that
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administration point to when
they say they have a right to

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drone strike in Yemen, because
these people are connected to

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the 911 attacks. And the brown
come on facing reality. One of

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the enduring legacies of the
Obama presidency is going to be

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that he solidified this Cheney
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government, which says that when
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the executive branch is
effectively a dictatorship.

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Wow. You know, I can see Obama
bots freaking out, but we're

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hearing that wait a minute,
Obama is continuing the Cheney

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legacy. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean,
there's

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some interesting congressional
hearings, I have some clips of

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relate to this. But before I
dropped this, and you can do

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your Assange thing, I want to
play this. Because one thing

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turned up during the discussion
with Obama and the Nixon thing

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and all the rest of it. And this
whole Associated Press thing

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they decided to, they want to
pass in a new shield law. Yeah.

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Well, I had the idea, the shield
law. So now, when I think I

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actually have a hold on, this
will lead right into it's a

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very, very short clip.

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Because this one may give away
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No. Okay. Now, just tell me
which one is it? What am I

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playing?

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I don't know, irony.

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Irony. Okay.

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We go, what about the the irony
of the Obama administration

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after the news of the of their
surveillance of the AP comes

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out, then going to Chuck Schumer
and say, We need a stronger

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shield law, and that

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I have this whole history in my
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was quite ridiculous, because
the bill that the Obama asked

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Schumer to put into the house
has an exception for national

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security. In other words,
you're, and you're talking about

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national security, the law
doesn't apply. What is the whole

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controversy about today with
respect to AP, it's about a

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national security exception to
the privilege that you would

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think reporters would otherwise
have. So Obama puts it out

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thinking the public doesn't know
what I know. And I'm really

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going to be good to reporters,
but it doesn't protect them at

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all in the AP situation.

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Yeah. So I don't have to play my
clip. So that so this is

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actually a law that the
President tried to well, he

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didn't try to get it through. It
was in I don't think he didn't

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pass the House didn't pass
Congress. But it's exactly what

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it was like, Okay, you have the
right to report anything you

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want. But we've got to have this
little thing called national

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security. We'll have, of course,
a blue ribbon panel of judges.

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And whenever we decide that you
really can't report on this,

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because this is international in
the interest of national

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security, then you won't be able
to report on it. And they wanted

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to take that out. And then the
President instead of saying he

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would veto the bill, he sent all
of his minions saying Oh, no,

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you got to put that in. So of
course, if that was actually put

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into law, which I don't think it
would ever happen. that would

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that would be the final nail
that would be the police state,

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we'd be there and that The would
be the perfect the perfect wrap

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up. Here's a spokes all Carney
because everyone had to go out

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and do the rounds. And you know,
of course, talk about how

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incredibly transparent they are.
And he even went on piers. More

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on he was on an on everyone show
in the news guys spot on if you

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noticed that. So they took him
out of context and put them in

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front of the White House where
all the news people normally

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standing to do their stand up
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packages.

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Final question, Jay Carney,
obviously, the President made a

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big deal when he came into
office of being not like

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previous administrations and was
going to be much more

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transparent. The charge today,
after this week is that you have

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had that reputation for
transparency pretty heavily

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dented, do you accept that sort
of general pictured? How are you

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going to move on now and restore
perhaps faith that some

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Americans have lost this week in
your openness and honesty? Well,

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I'm not sure again, you're
you're concocting scandals here

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that don't exist, especially
with regards to the Benghazi

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affair that was contrived by
Republicans. I think

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this guy's he's a piece of work
is I mean, he's a Benghazi

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affair was contrived by
Republicans.

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Never happened it was the
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No. And oh, by the way, great
mainstream media and every year

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and even in in the Rocky
Mountains and finished Kearney

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finish are largely

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this week. The fact of the
matter is that this

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administration has a record of
transparency that does any

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previous administrations, and we
are committed to that the

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President is committed to that.

447
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,650
Jay Carney, you've probably been
the busiest man in Washington

448
00:26:40,650 --> 00:26:43,800
this week. And for that reason,
if nothing else, I genuinely

449
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,320
appreciate you taking the time
to come and talk to me tonight.

450
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:49,170
Piers, I was glad to do it.
Thank you for having I was

451
00:26:49,170 --> 00:26:53,220
glad to do a trace. Yeah. So
there's a couple sides to this

452
00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:59,310
coin. And I think this is really
fabulously funny to see them

453
00:26:59,310 --> 00:27:03,000
going into this into this
danger, you know, mode of trying

454
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,590
to fix things. On the other side
of this coin, something very

455
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:12,030
important changed in the US
Code. And I'm I'm I'm not quite

456
00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:15,120
sure. I think the change was
made it slipped by us. I'm sure

457
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,020
it was one of these 1000 Page
bills that I you know, I read

458
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:24,180
most of but even I can't, I
can't find everything. So this

459
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:29,400
is now almost a week ago, the
subtle change in the US Code,

460
00:27:29,850 --> 00:27:33,360
titled defense support of
civilian law enforcement

461
00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:38,280
agencies, and this relates to
Boston, the military has quietly

462
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,210
granted itself the ability to
police the streets without

463
00:27:42,210 --> 00:27:46,920
obtaining prior local or state
consent. Oh appending a

464
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,440
precedent of course that has
been in place for more than two

465
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,160
years. Federal military
commanders have the authority in

466
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,370
extraordinary emergency
circumstances where prior

467
00:27:56,370 --> 00:28:00,300
authorization by the president
is impossible, and duty

468
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:03,810
constituents and duty
constituted local authorities

469
00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:08,760
are unable to control the
situation to engage temporarily

470
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,530
in activities that are necessary
to quell large scale unexpected

471
00:28:13,530 --> 00:28:19,110
civil disturbances. Riots. Yeah,
so this beats out the entire

472
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:23,370
concept of posse common TARDIS.
And I think now I'm thinking

473
00:28:23,610 --> 00:28:27,810
whether it was a part of it or
not, is pretty much irrelevant.

474
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,820
Boston was a litmus test for
this. For taking something that

475
00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:36,450
was not a huge outrage. I mean,
it was it was bad. But there

476
00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:42,750
were people were not rioting in
the streets, and put 9000 troops

477
00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:46,980
and combination of militarized
police on the streets. But there

478
00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:49,770
were there were rousting people
from their home. Yes and no

479
00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:53,730
protecting them at the end at
the barrel of a gun gun. What

480
00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:56,790
was it? Not protecting them? It
was saving them what what know

481
00:28:56,790 --> 00:29:01,590
what was the term they used? Was
it saving saving them?

482
00:29:01,650 --> 00:29:02,490
Oh, it's something it was

483
00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:05,970
something crazy like that.
There's a new there's a new

484
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:10,140
player on the scene and all of
this. And this is where I came

485
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:12,090
up with the Assange stuff for
today. It's

486
00:29:12,090 --> 00:29:15,300
hard to imagine that anyone
would alter this indelible image

487
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:19,440
of bombing victim Martin Richard
to promote a cause. But that's

488
00:29:19,470 --> 00:29:23,490
just what someone did, and then
posted the photoshopped picture,

489
00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:27,780
we will not show on Twitter.
It's made a lot of people angry,

490
00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:31,620
including a self described
hacktivist for good who goes by

491
00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:35,580
the Twitter handle Jester.
Jester would not reveal his true

492
00:29:35,580 --> 00:29:38,700
identity and he would only
communicate with us using a

493
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:42,450
secure private chat service. He
says over the last few weeks

494
00:29:42,450 --> 00:29:45,270
he's been targeting people he
believes are trying to

495
00:29:45,390 --> 00:29:48,900
capitalize on the marathon
tragedy, gesture as published

496
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,230
the name, phone number and
address of the person he blames

497
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:56,190
for the doctored Martin Richard
photo. He's also launched denial

498
00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:59,880
of service attacks on websites
belonging to people associated

499
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,550
with movements that claim the
bombings are a government

500
00:30:02,550 --> 00:30:06,450
conspiracy. One of those sites
has still not recovered.

501
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:13,200
So, you know, we've always been
very intrigued by WikiLeaks by

502
00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:15,450
anonymous, you know, because you
know, whenever you are

503
00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:19,590
anonymous, you could easily be a
front for a government agency.

504
00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:20,310
And so

505
00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:23,460
this went and of course, we know
that Hillary had set these

506
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,910
operations up. Yes, sir. So
quoting in Great Britain,

507
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:29,520
yes, or so called techno
experts, and not just Great

508
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,300
Britain, but even a targeting
Russia. She set the Met, she

509
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:38,550
had, there was a whole, like
5000 of them in in former Soviet

510
00:30:38,550 --> 00:30:39,210
states.

511
00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:42,360
So So Wester is on here.

512
00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:45,870
Check this out. So this led me
to just a little bit of

513
00:30:45,870 --> 00:30:52,230
research. Here is a presentation
from I think Fanelli is his name

514
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:56,130
from the US Cyber Command. He's
doing a PowerPoint presentation

515
00:30:56,130 --> 00:31:01,260
for Homeland Security, talking
about cybersecurity, and all of

516
00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:01,890
a sudden,

517
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,100
and here's maybe where I get a
little controversial, who

518
00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:08,520
he's gonna get controversial on
your ass. This is this is a

519
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,000
unique domain. And the fact that
we're used to in warfare, the

520
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,390
fact that you can train large
masses of individuals to

521
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:19,140
accomplish a strategic effect or
a tactical effect, or an

522
00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:22,320
operational effect. And usually,
that requires teamwork

523
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:29,400
cooperation. This is a domain of
warfare where one individual can

524
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,810
make a difference in both
negative and positive and, and

525
00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:36,120
you can argue whether or not
this is negative or positive,

526
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:42,360
but you know, upon the initial
publication of WikiLeaks, I

527
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,410
argue that that was large it was
it was largely damaging to a lot

528
00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:49,860
of people out there around the
world. The information that was

529
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:52,830
released, compromised our
abilities to do do certain

530
00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:58,050
things around the world, and it
compromised our reputation. We

531
00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:00,810
should have had the, we should
have had the capability, the

532
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:02,730
community's capability to
inherently protect herself from

533
00:32:02,730 --> 00:32:09,450
self defense, and shut it down.
To date, my knowledge is that

534
00:32:09,450 --> 00:32:15,120
only one individual has shut it
down. All right, the Patriot

535
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,230
hacker known as the jester, for
all intensive purposes, has been

536
00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:24,060
the only individual to stop
WikiLeaks, PayPal, MasterCard,

537
00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:29,040
and visa went after them, as
well, in the corporate realm,

538
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,640
they they cease payments for
supporters of WikiLeaks, but to

539
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,790
actually physically stop the
servers from processing data.

540
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,000
The gesture is the only one that
has done it.

541
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:45,630
So that to me was just like,
hold on a second. This patriotic

542
00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:49,560
hacktivist which is a
contradiction in terms these

543
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,960
days, is doing a lot of very
interesting stuff.

544
00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:58,800
Most of its seemingly illegal
Yeah. And is being

545
00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:04,080
heralded for it by US Cyber
Command. How can that be? It?

546
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,500
The guy's wearing a uniform when
he's doing this presentation?

547
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,900
This guy, yeah, this guy. So to
me, that means that it's all?

548
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,460
Oh, yeah. Really clearly,
clearly. An operation on the

549
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:18,210
inside?

550
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,490
Yeah, it's a government
operation, obviously. Yeah.

551
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:25,740
So, you know, and then you bring
around this, and this is kind of

552
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:29,460
why I'm thinking WikiLeaks.
Drake makes so much sense. Now.

553
00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:33,570
You know, Assange is just, they
just need to get him. They just

554
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:36,840
need to get them in their hands.
I totally believe the idea of,

555
00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:44,820
of there being secret grand jury
indictment. And, you know,

556
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,470
they'll get this done. I really,
actually don't have any doubts.

557
00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:53,220
They're gonna get done what they
want done. They

558
00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:56,490
know, there are much more
talent. I mean, this is, again,

559
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,060
this is the I think the public's
coming around to this belief

560
00:34:00,060 --> 00:34:04,830
that this is a small group of
people that are trying to trying

561
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:06,990
to they've taken over the
government. I think it started

562
00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:07,830
with change,

563
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,749
meaning no, no, no. No, please.
It started with Bush. It started

564
00:34:12,749 --> 00:34:15,149
with Bush a conflict it
continued through the Clinton

565
00:34:15,419 --> 00:34:16,349
dynasty.

566
00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:19,140
Yeah, you're right. Probably
just start with HW Yeah. Oh,

567
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:19,530
yeah.

568
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,070
It's totally started with HW
who, you know, he brought CIA

569
00:34:23,070 --> 00:34:24,420
all the way into,

570
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:27,630
right. But he's the head of the
CIA. So he takes over the place,

571
00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:30,660
and then Clinton comes in out of
the blue. Yeah. And he's the

572
00:34:30,660 --> 00:34:34,650
neoliberal, you know, of all
time, and doesn't really change

573
00:34:34,650 --> 00:34:38,580
any policies and booths,
essentially more of a Republican

574
00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:41,910
and a Democrat. If you really
look at it. And you end up with

575
00:34:41,910 --> 00:34:44,400
the situation we've got now
which is it's too late.

576
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:45,810
Did you see?

577
00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:49,650
And they're making plans for the
riots. Yeah,

578
00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:52,500
they're all right. Good to go.
We're ready for that to happen.

579
00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:58,260
Did you Did you see what both
the President and the Vice

580
00:34:58,260 --> 00:35:02,610
President were doing? but it was
like, I don't know who's running

581
00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:05,880
damage control over there, you
know when they need you know,

582
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,670
because this there's a huge
companies we talk about them all

583
00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:13,500
the time, Hill and Knowlton is a
very, very famous one. And you

584
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,140
know, it's like when you've got
something you got to come up

585
00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:19,920
with some kind of distraction.
You know, of course, we had the

586
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,680
called Clooney Clunies. And I
got nothing called Angelina

587
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,780
Jolie. Angelina said, Well, just
this thing I did. And but of

588
00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:34,350
course, you can always have
children. And so the President

589
00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:39,360
goes off and visit some pre
kindergarteners. And I'm

590
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,470
disappointed he didn't say hi,
everybody said hello. I mean,

591
00:35:43,470 --> 00:35:46,440
come on, get these kids early.
But listen to what in this

592
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,380
little clip here of what all of
a sudden the teacher like it's

593
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,710
going to remind the slaves to be
and by the way, in this

594
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:55,500
particular connotation slaves is
not such a good thing because

595
00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:59,490
the classroom was all black
kids. So I don't want to get

596
00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:02,580
caught on that later because
yes, I did see the video. So the

597
00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:04,020
whole thing was just weird.

598
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:10,860
He actually said hi

599
00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:12,210
while he said it.

600
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:18,690
See you guys. How's everybody
doing today? I'm gonna say hi to

601
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:23,880
your teachers first. Great

602
00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:28,350
to see you listen to the
cameras.

603
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:32,490
DJ get a clue camera guys you
don't need to make his racket

604
00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:43,740
cameras are drawn our favorite
zoo animal. Is a snake. big

605
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:44,010
snake

606
00:36:54,570 --> 00:37:02,970
remember first, okay. Remember,
while we told you Shut up slave,

607
00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:05,580
listen to the President. You're
not supposed to be talking think

608
00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:05,730
that

609
00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:09,330
they audition the photographer's
that they bring them in they go.

610
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Now shutters not

611
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:12,300
done set not fast enough.

612
00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:13,950
You got to have it? Yeah.

613
00:37:15,330 --> 00:37:19,110
So of course, you can't have
Vice President Joe Biden

614
00:37:19,530 --> 00:37:22,260
standing with a bunch of
kindergarteners because that's

615
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:27,090
creepy, and everyone knows it.
It's like we can have so Biden

616
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,250
didn't greet some letters. Let

617
00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:34,410
me tell you about this picture.
I'm looking at a binder, a

618
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:38,820
binder full of kids full of
letters from a group of third

619
00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:43,170
graders from North Philadelphia.
And they all wrote to me about

620
00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:47,190
guns. My mom used to have an
expression. Out of the mouths of

621
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:53,070
babes come Gems of Wisdom is
pablum. These little kids, they

622
00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:56,700
understand, because a lot of
them have seen the effects of

623
00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:02,160
gun violence in the streets. I
want to read to you a little bit

624
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,780
about what these kids and one of
the city's most impoverished

625
00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:08,100
schools have to say,

626
00:38:08,130 --> 00:38:10,560
and I will I could go on
forever. But the whole thing is

627
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,250
just really that's your idea.
That's like, Oh, I know what we

628
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:18,090
can do. And well, I might as
well just get a couple clips out

629
00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:22,650
of the way here. So here is your
compromised minority News

630
00:38:22,650 --> 00:38:25,500
Service, because that's what the
mainstream is. And people don't

631
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,930
believe them anymore. You're
right. And as you as you stated,

632
00:38:27,930 --> 00:38:32,370
they're, the people are catching
on. Here's NBC, comparing all of

633
00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:35,700
this that's going on to a blip.
It's just it's like a little

634
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,470
blip. Little ping scandal, just

635
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:41,100
one of the political controversy
facing the Obama administration

636
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,620
right now. But this morning, the
President is trying to move past

637
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:43,800
them

638
00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:46,830
they'd say, president's keeping
things in perspective and

639
00:38:46,830 --> 00:38:50,790
believes this is just a blip.
They'll bounce back in the na t

640
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:53,760
Mr. Obama does not feel under
siege this week. The New York

641
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,670
Times reporting the President
has talked longingly of going

642
00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:58,710
Bulworth taxpayers. Thanks man.

643
00:38:58,740 --> 00:39:01,740
This is a very interesting thing
that was done here. So this is

644
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:05,250
the I haven't seen this movie is
what was it was that with Warren

645
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:05,790
Beatty.

646
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:11,070
A bull bull bar was lower.
Bulworth, or

647
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,500
I don't know, was that the name
of the title of the movie? Yeah,

648
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,530
it was as he was a politician.
Yeah, so a politician who Oh

649
00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:20,400
worth I think who all of a
sudden decides to speak the

650
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,000
truth.

651
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,380
Right. And yeah, and see, I
think he was die for was dying.

652
00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:28,530
I don't know the story. Yeah.
Bulworth. 1998.

653
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,690
So So the President is privately
saying now saying in meetings

654
00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:35,580
and I'll just roll this back
saying we so we can listen to

655
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:39,780
this in context, that he's going
Bulworth? In other words, he's

656
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,510
just flapping it all out there.
He's telling the honest truth

657
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:43,950
because in this movie, kind

658
00:39:43,950 --> 00:39:46,860
of an old reference nobody gets
upset that

659
00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:49,950
nothing this movie was a big hit
either. I mean, I wasn't it

660
00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:50,280
wasn't a

661
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:54,480
moderately it was only had three
stars on the major reviews.

662
00:39:54,509 --> 00:39:57,929
Well, let's listen again to what
how they're bringing to me. It's

663
00:39:57,929 --> 00:40:00,989
like so who they gotta fire
somewhere. Someone's had quit go

664
00:40:00,989 --> 00:40:05,309
stand next to kids. Oh Jotun kid
just read these letters. And

665
00:40:05,309 --> 00:40:05,849
then,

666
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:08,580
and I got PR people running the
show. Yeah. Let's

667
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:12,480
tell everyone. It's both. So
current I think Carney has been

668
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,800
removed from this. He is not
running this show for show

669
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,220
that would be why he was doing
the standard. Yes, exactly.

670
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:23,610
Because he's there. He's on his
way out here. I'm putting it in

671
00:40:23,610 --> 00:40:23,700
the,

672
00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:26,340
in the book, put it in the book
say Mr. Obama does not feel

673
00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:28,920
under siege this week. The New
York Times reporting the

674
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,430
President has talked longingly
of going Bulworth taxpayers,

675
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,150
referencing the movie featuring
Warren Beatty as a Senator who

676
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:39,150
suddenly decides to speak his
mind, whatever the political

677
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:39,750
costs,

678
00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:45,330
or he's gonna have a mental
breakdown. That may have been

679
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:46,530
what the movie was about to.

680
00:40:46,770 --> 00:40:49,950
And he told me that in meetings
this week about how to handle

681
00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:53,340
these bubbling controversies,
the President is deflected the

682
00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:56,190
idea that it's been a bad week,
Maddy said, You know what a bad

683
00:40:56,190 --> 00:40:58,950
week was a bad week was when
there was oil flowing into the

684
00:40:58,950 --> 00:41:02,250
Gulf of Mexico. A bad week is
when four Americans were killed

685
00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:04,320
in Benghazi. This isn't a bad
week.

686
00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:09,480
He's the he's like the Gipper.
He's awesome. Yeah. And then,

687
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:12,420
and you always got to throw in a
little Chris Matthews, because,

688
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:16,770
you know, the it isn't complete
until he's called you a racist.

689
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,320
But the problem is there are
people in this country maybe 10.

690
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,910
For him why he's with Al
Sharpton. I

691
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:22,800
think he was going Aha, yeah,
preach. Yeah.

692
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,340
I don't know what the number may
be 20% on a bad day, who wants

693
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,990
this President to have an
asterisk next to it 20% On a bad

694
00:41:30,990 --> 00:41:33,930
day, to his name in the history
books, that he really wasn't

695
00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:36,990
president. You know, like a guy
in baseball that used drugs.

696
00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:40,080
They wanted to say, well, he
really didn't have that batting

697
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,450
average. He really wasn't the
first African American

698
00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:45,270
president. He really didn't do
health care. He really didn't

699
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:48,120
kill bin Laden. There's an
asterisk. No, he didn't fighting

700
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,210
for that, that people like
Donald Trump since day one, they

701
00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:56,370
can't stand the idea that he's
president and a piece of it is

702
00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:59,550
racism. Not that somebody in one
racial group doesn't like

703
00:41:59,550 --> 00:42:02,280
somebody another racial group.
So what is the sense that the

704
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,810
white race must rule

705
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,620
that's right.

706
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:07,950
White Power my brother

707
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:14,040
What is wrong with him? All in
on Obama? And of course he he

708
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,800
has to be I see I think he grits
his teeth a little bit when he

709
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,530
has to talk to Sharpton because
they have to do a throw to you

710
00:42:19,530 --> 00:42:22,050
know, because where they changed
from one show to another Yeah.

711
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,160
And sometimes he just looks like
it because he's it has to be

712
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,200
embarrassing. Sharpton is an out
and out idiot. And MSNBC should

713
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,810
be ashamed of themselves for
even having him on the air do

714
00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:36,990
they think that black folk that
you know that are all over the

715
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:41,340
place? watch MSNBC which is a
white man's did you just say

716
00:42:41,340 --> 00:42:44,280
black folk, black folk? Do you
think the black folk are

717
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,480
watching Sharpton?

718
00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:50,100
Yes, they're watching them
brother owl. Oh, they're not His

719
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,290
gifts. They are rolling

720
00:42:52,290 --> 00:42:53,550
their eyes like everybody.

721
00:42:54,360 --> 00:43:00,000
So I've been saving this these
two clips for three weeks. So

722
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,660
while we're on it, just idiocy.
Have you seen the edge show?

723
00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:05,550
Yes, of course.

724
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:07,290
Most of this Edie who appeared

725
00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:09,450
Schwartz. He's the worst. So he
apparently

726
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:12,720
is a private pilot. And he's got
he's got a nice airplane by he's

727
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,890
got a million dollar aircraft,
Thea politesse. And he's flying

728
00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:22,350
around the country. He's doing a
tour. And on this tour, here's a

729
00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:22,890
little piece

730
00:43:22,890 --> 00:43:25,020
of an oar by General Electric.

731
00:43:25,050 --> 00:43:28,890
I might add here. Here is a
little bit of him speaking.

732
00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:33,720
Well, Mr. Boehner wants to give
these guys a vote again, because

733
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,530
there's again, this is onstage
doing his tour and when he's has

734
00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:41,700
a leather jacket on, and a
barstool on stage 70 people

735
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:44,730
he says, in the house that have
never voted on Obamacare before

736
00:43:44,730 --> 00:43:47,310
he wants to give them the chance
he'll let's go back and vote on

737
00:43:47,310 --> 00:43:49,860
women's rights. Can they still
vote when I have a vote on that?

738
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:52,530
Maybe we should do something on
civil rights or the Voting

739
00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:56,910
Rights Act. These people aren't
living in reality, the country

740
00:43:56,910 --> 00:44:00,270
has voted twice for Barack
Obama. There is no doubt that

741
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:02,610
the Supreme Court gave the
ruling which is best for the

742
00:44:02,610 --> 00:44:05,400
country for the greater good,
which is in the Constitution.

743
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:05,910
And

744
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:11,100
well, the greater good is in the
Constitution. Can you? I don't

745
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:12,840
know. Of course, it's not

746
00:44:13,410 --> 00:44:15,870
like he's just full of crap, as
usual, just said,

747
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:19,110
it's in the Constitution that
you can do things for the

748
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:26,640
greater good. No, it's not. No,
I will say I could be mistaken.

749
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:27,210
Well, let's

750
00:44:27,210 --> 00:44:30,570
go take a look to constitutions
online. We can search it. And

751
00:44:31,020 --> 00:44:33,960
is there is this you will I'll
point out the remaining 10

752
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,590
seconds of this

753
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,730
constitution. And we will never
give up this fight to make sure

754
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:42,600
that every American has a chance
at decent health care coverage

755
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,070
in this country. Liberals.
That's who we are we care about

756
00:44:47,070 --> 00:44:47,730
our neighbors.

757
00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:52,560
So while you're looking up, I
want to play a little of the

758
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,540
opening montage to show you how
insane this guy is. He thinks he

759
00:44:57,540 --> 00:45:01,290
is the president. So you'll hear
hear him talking and then

760
00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:04,890
they'll cut to the president
back and forth like he'd like

761
00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:08,310
he's the vice president or he's
like the President's keeper or

762
00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:12,930
his guardian angel or some
twisted thing. This is the

763
00:45:12,930 --> 00:45:15,150
opening montage of his tour

764
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,390
going around America is a big
part of telling the story. Fire

765
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:24,510
and

766
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:35,190
talking about infrastructure
investors driving, rising,

767
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:39,450
middle class invested in
education and a dynamic

768
00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:42,840
cutting edge route

769
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:46,410
back with a serious

770
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,940
kind of an edge want to repeal
the law? Is that clear? We will

771
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:52,620
not back down from that Mike.

772
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:59,820
So when you do this kind of
thing, you're weird. He's really

773
00:46:00,330 --> 00:46:04,710
the really thinks he's all that
in the bag of chips in his brown

774
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:09,600
leather jacket, as you find the
greater good in the Constitution

775
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:09,810
not

776
00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:14,160
in there and you're sure because
of other funny stuff

777
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120
in the Constitution as last
Constitution

778
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,410
on some of the mother's answer
forums where people jump in the

779
00:46:22,410 --> 00:46:25,320
Constitution is not designed for
the communistic Dogma of the

780
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,460
greater good. It was designed to
protect individual sovereignty

781
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,060
the constitution provides for
the common defense promote the

782
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:36,810
general welfare but we the
peoples always been denoted as a

783
00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:39,600
protection for individuals
creating the people not as a

784
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,690
member of a minority group but
as a minority of AI the

785
00:46:42,690 --> 00:46:45,480
individual with equal rights and
freedom for everyone

786
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,470
individually,

787
00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:49,860
I'm looking at the chat room
here's the greater good in the

788
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:52,590
Constitution can be found along
a paved road with good

789
00:46:52,590 --> 00:47:01,470
intentions to hell. Okay, so
don't think that the

790
00:47:01,470 --> 00:47:03,960
Constitution that's online
doesn't include the read between

791
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,210
the lines text that is being
referred to wow, it's not in

792
00:47:09,210 --> 00:47:13,890
there. I've read it a couple
times. I really don't think it's

793
00:47:13,890 --> 00:47:14,370
in there.

794
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,430
No, it's not in there. The
common welfare might be in there

795
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:24,060
and it is common defense and
general welfare. No, no to

796
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:27,180
meaningless comm concept this
other guy says and let's take

797
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:29,490
him literally when in which case
only possible meaning is the sum

798
00:47:29,730 --> 00:47:33,390
of the good of all individual
men involved. Now this guy's

799
00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:35,940
this guy's in a hole this edge
Schwartz

800
00:47:35,970 --> 00:47:40,440
Hey, let me just stop for a
second John. And I'd like to

801
00:47:41,070 --> 00:47:45,240
take a moment and congratulate
you on World Trade Week which is

802
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:46,650
coming up this week. Oh,

803
00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:49,200
and by the trade some world and

804
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,490
that's exactly right. And by
presidential proclamation, it is

805
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,220
Emergency Medical Services week.
So all of my favorite em, em

806
00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:04,530
technicians we do they will be
handing out extra hell ball if

807
00:48:04,530 --> 00:48:09,300
you wig out this week. So that's
congratulations and last night

808
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:13,080
John as somehow we forgot to
discuss that we forgot to call

809
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,780
it but it is a tradition here on
the no agenda program which is

810
00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:23,250
also known as we always
celebrate the winner of what is

811
00:48:23,250 --> 00:48:24,120
that Pam?

812
00:48:28,140 --> 00:48:30,840
Grant was making bet you weren't
you were gonna forget about

813
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:34,890
how can I forget the Eurovision
Song Contest? Ladies and

814
00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:39,030
gentlemen, congratulations to
the people's nation of Gitmo

815
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:46,380
Denmark, for winning with Emily
de forez. The song is only

816
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:51,600
teardrops of good little bitty I
like it because it has like a

817
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,360
little piccolo at the beginning.
It's got some good militaristic

818
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,920
drums going on. And she's
smoking hot. Have you seen her?

819
00:49:01,710 --> 00:49:03,000
She's 20 years old.

820
00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:08,190
And she likes bicycling and
walking in the rain.

821
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Now, there's something bad
though. Controversy. Oh, yeah.

822
00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:18,360
So the nettle. So first of all,
this is it gets really sad. So

823
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:24,000
England sent Bonnie Tyler who
had a number one hit in the 80s

824
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,510
with it's a heartache. And yet
she had a very distinct vocal.

825
00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:31,380
Remember that song, John? Yeah.
Can you sing two bars,

826
00:49:32,310 --> 00:49:34,230
two bars, two bars,

827
00:49:34,350 --> 00:49:40,620
and the Netherlands and a nuke?
Who has a very good singer, and

828
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:44,940
has had I don't know if she ever
really had international success

829
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:47,520
but very well respected in the
Netherlands. And this is the

830
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,540
thing that I recommend against
because you have strikes against

831
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:54,750
you. By doing this as an
established artist, even though

832
00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:57,420
it's the Eurovision Song
Contest. It's only supposed to

833
00:49:57,420 --> 00:50:03,720
be about the song and And it
appears that the Danish song the

834
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:09,030
winning song was stolen
blatantly ripped off from an

835
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:14,280
existing Dutch group what yes so
the song

836
00:50:14,489 --> 00:50:16,289
by maybe she's just doing a
cover

837
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:20,099
no no he's not a cover but I was
a cover No, here they are side

838
00:50:20,099 --> 00:50:23,999
by side I didn't do this mix but
it's kind of side by side. So

839
00:50:24,029 --> 00:50:29,999
here's the winning song by Emily
did the forez from Denmark

840
00:50:36,090 --> 00:50:39,900
and in a moment we'll switch
over to chaotic from I think

841
00:50:40,110 --> 00:50:51,570
almost 10 years ago maybe hear
the same song it is it really

842
00:50:51,570 --> 00:50:57,210
is. Like it gets this is just
the intro wait until you hear

843
00:50:57,210 --> 00:51:04,800
the like the hook so I'm gonna
get get to it here so there's

844
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,570
the winning song from Denmark

845
00:51:20,250 --> 00:51:23,070
Here we go. Get ready

846
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:37,980
so I think we should be bombing
Denmark any minute now. The

847
00:51:37,980 --> 00:51:41,550
World War Three can commence.
They ripped us off.

848
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,530
That is funny. Same song. I mean
it No, no, it's the same song.

849
00:51:46,530 --> 00:51:48,330
It's actually actionable.

850
00:51:48,750 --> 00:51:52,950
very actionable. I just thought
that'd be fun. It was very

851
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:58,260
funny. And with that, I think we
should thank I see the

852
00:51:58,260 --> 00:52:03,060
spreadsheet came in so we can
thank anyone who supported us.

853
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:07,620
We've been having some issues
with the Sunday show on I think

854
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:09,690
you've even put out a plea and
said Please,

855
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,290
yeah, well, we did. We caught up
with the Sunday show. Oh, good.

856
00:52:13,290 --> 00:52:15,510
Sunday shows is gonna do I mean,
we still had I don't want to

857
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:18,510
keep sending to eat mailings a
week.

858
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:21,450
I noticed you sent your
signature. Can we like take that

859
00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:22,710
and print it on checks?

860
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,990
Yes. Okay. It won't do any good.
There's no money in the bank. I

861
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:32,970
just bounce because I'll end up
with the bounce fee. Let's take

862
00:52:32,970 --> 00:52:35,520
a few executive producers and
Associate Executive producers

863
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,730
for show FY 14 beginning with
hyperbaric technology, black

864
00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:45,480
Baron David Foley in Los Gatos,
the last cat, California. She's

865
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,980
the cat I think are the cats of
FY 14 In The Morning John and

866
00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:52,110
Adam for the black bear in the
Silicon Valley. Please send a

867
00:52:52,110 --> 00:52:54,570
dose of no agenda karma my way.
Oh,

868
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:59,460
absolutely. Thank you so much.
You've got karma and Blackburn

869
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:03,780
David Foley will also be the
only member of the 514 Club and

870
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:05,790
exclusive club indeed this
episodes

871
00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:11,430
when well you can bring in his
wife, Mary Paul Stewart 33333

872
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:15,180
from Seattle now a proud Lady of
the manor and holder of the 334

873
00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:19,140
challenge coin No. Missed by
that much.

874
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:27,360
333 Yeah, cool. Does that mean
she is she already a lady

875
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,790
she has now because I

876
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:33,210
don't have anything on the Louis
interview read

877
00:53:33,210 --> 00:53:38,070
the memo on peerage. We do not
do any ceremonial stuff. You can

878
00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:40,230
just you're just now allowed to
call yourself the lady of the

879
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:42,390
man Oh, boy, the grand Gentile.
Okay.

880
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,840
I know. But I mean, that's
usually a title change. And

881
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,970
that's usually listed in the
email.

882
00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:52,530
We won't probably be able to do
that. I just can't see it.

883
00:53:53,250 --> 00:53:54,180
Well, I'm going to put it in

884
00:53:54,180 --> 00:53:56,850
mentions it she says right
there. Okay. You can put it in.

885
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:59,730
You can put it in the in the
credit. I'm going to do it right

886
00:53:59,730 --> 00:54:03,360
now. Lady Mary Paul Stewart.
That's what I'm gonna do. Okay.

887
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,830
Syracuse is getting complicated
now that we got all these things

888
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:08,370
going on.

889
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:10,800
It's like real work when we

890
00:54:11,370 --> 00:54:14,400
brown. Unfortunately, when when
people dig up this year, I'm

891
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,940
just reminding everybody out
there some day about 1500 years

892
00:54:17,940 --> 00:54:20,910
from now they're going to dig up
this stuff and hopefully our

893
00:54:20,910 --> 00:54:23,370
stuff which is we get we'll have
a digitized and all sorts of

894
00:54:23,370 --> 00:54:27,150
different ways and then pounded
into tin plates. And then when

895
00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:30,090
they dig up into oh my god, this
was there was a whole government

896
00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:30,870
structure.

897
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:33,750
That was why there was a people
who ran

898
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:40,260
the world. Mary Paul Stewart
will be seen as some lady of the

899
00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:41,850
manor, you know, she might

900
00:54:41,850 --> 00:54:44,490
get a plaque. They she might get
a posthumous plaque

901
00:54:47,250 --> 00:54:50,070
they'll fight that find the
remnants of Seattle, you know,

902
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:53,910
they'll be digging away. Sir
Keith Brown in Spring, Texas

903
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:57,060
33333. Stepping out the sport
the Sunday show should put me

904
00:54:57,060 --> 00:55:00,450
well over the requirement for a
barren net. If you have The time

905
00:55:00,450 --> 00:55:05,040
I'd like to request some aching
back karma or aching back karma

906
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,360
okay county is got the money
accounted for never received

907
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,410
executive producer credits some
point in show whatever

908
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,520
that may have been when we had
that one Pay Pal glitch so a

909
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:24,240
huge apologies for that and go
to the show notes for today for

910
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:30,750
Thursday under vaccines you will
find a link to Dr. Ken he's the

911
00:55:30,750 --> 00:55:34,110
guy who worked me over with his
rubber bands and his broom

912
00:55:34,110 --> 00:55:38,310
handle he will fix you with the
broom handle that we talked

913
00:55:38,310 --> 00:55:43,380
about that so if so if Sir Keith
is in spring I don't know if he

914
00:55:43,380 --> 00:55:45,180
may have emailed me about DACA
we

915
00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:47,910
have a tech Big Texas meet up
you've got more people down

916
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:51,240
there including our next donor
you're right contributor Oh sir

917
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,610
juice executive producer. Yes,
sir. G

918
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,760
first let me give Sir Keith is
aching back karma for a second.

919
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,040
You've got karma. You know, sir
Jean is moving to Austin.

920
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,910
Oh, they do. So they just to
keep better tabs on you.

921
00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:10,170
We know. Yeah, we know sir. Jean
is a consultant of some sorts.

922
00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:13,650
Sure. He is he I think he got a
promotion.

923
00:56:13,859 --> 00:56:16,529
Yeah. Adam curry account

924
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:22,650
by iron Rand,

925
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,840
and he says you guys don't know
what you're talking about.

926
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,510
You're so wrong. Here's 33333
which I think is code for good

927
00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:34,920
job. And I'm pretty sure that
refers to Boston.

928
00:56:35,610 --> 00:56:40,050
Sir Dwayne Melanson, again. He's
ofay guard, Oregon.

929
00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:41,790
He's been helping us out all
month.

930
00:56:41,820 --> 00:56:45,630
He's been on a roll. three
threes. I know he's gonna get

931
00:56:45,630 --> 00:56:48,150
we'll get the check his numbers
because he may be a baron or a

932
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:50,250
double barrel. Girl.

933
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,880
No, he isn't Earl. I know. He's
an earl because he

934
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,000
was an orphan the last show Yes.
Okay. Yeah, pushing for change

935
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,220
that cert URL? Well, then how
Yeah, but you're gonna have

936
00:56:59,220 --> 00:57:01,860
problems with this. Like I said,
because we don't have the source

937
00:57:01,890 --> 00:57:04,500
code. Actually, JC may rewrite
all this. And

938
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:08,040
Kenny is right that in
JavaScript? Yeah. Well, we'll

939
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,890
see I'm extra to what he's
learned, but not very much.

940
00:57:11,610 --> 00:57:15,690
You just start promising things.
ITM gentleman when I'm

941
00:57:15,690 --> 00:57:17,760
President, I can assure you the
first thing I will do is close

942
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,210
down Guantanamo. You could take
that to the bank. Hold on

943
00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:23,580
a second. Where is that? I can
never find that one. You can

944
00:57:23,580 --> 00:57:24,600
take that to the bank.

945
00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:29,310
Then I will broadcast no agenda
constantly over the giant voice

946
00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:32,400
system. Please reserve your
resume normal activities.

947
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,000
That's not a real good idea.
That could work some people

948
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:36,840
after a while.

949
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,030
Jason Montgomery in High River
Alberta $300. If no comment from

950
00:57:42,030 --> 00:57:47,100
him, I apparently but we do have
Jeremy Johnson port and angle

951
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:50,970
he's Washington 258. Ada will be
Associate Executive Producer

952
00:57:51,090 --> 00:57:55,680
Heil Biff Jebediah and Mabel
donating in honor of the IRS

953
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,950
distraction of the week wind is
hot pockets. 2010 tour start

954
00:57:59,850 --> 00:58:00,810
dockets.

955
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,760
So it's funny you ask that
because two things happened you

956
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,790
know, I did wind up buying a
miss Macie replacement vehicle a

957
00:58:11,790 --> 00:58:17,850
Ford Expedition from 2005. Not
really the miles I want had

958
00:58:17,850 --> 00:58:20,610
100,000 miles on it. But you
know, of course, but it was a

959
00:58:20,610 --> 00:58:28,770
clean car. And I spent the extra
I think $800 And I have like a

960
00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:32,220
huge warranty on it. Because
that's the thing that I messed

961
00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:36,540
up on on the on the Range Rover.
So you're now on it's like, Oh,

962
00:58:36,540 --> 00:58:39,510
I hear some something in the
engine, I don't care. Because

963
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:41,820
that thing will fall apart and I
can take it back in they'll fix

964
00:58:41,820 --> 00:58:46,260
it for free. Or kind of for
free. But this thing has the

965
00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:51,480
huge 5.7 engine. I mean, Miss
make you

966
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,930
go to the gas station, grab the
pump and just shoot it under the

967
00:58:54,930 --> 00:58:55,620
ground.

968
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,710
And so Miss Macie already
because of course, you know,

969
00:58:58,710 --> 00:59:02,220
it's meant for either six
children or, you know, a huge

970
00:59:02,220 --> 00:59:07,410
payload. And so she already did
a 180 turning onto the highway

971
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,540
35 It's like you got to learn
the accelerator a little bit in

972
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:17,250
that thing. And our our producer
Brandon here in Austin okay. All

973
00:59:17,250 --> 00:59:19,650
sudden he sent me an email said
just so you know, you know that

974
00:59:19,650 --> 00:59:23,190
35 foot trailer, the one with
the TV screen that automatically

975
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:27,210
pops up and everything that one
we couldn't pull with with with

976
00:59:27,210 --> 00:59:30,870
the pickup truck. He says
whenever you need it. So the

977
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:35,460
thinking is when we get back
from our European trip, which

978
00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:40,980
will be relatively short in the
beginning of August. The idea is

979
00:59:41,010 --> 00:59:47,670
maybe to hook up Brandon's
trailer to the to the

980
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:51,750
expedition, and then go up to
Seattle and then maybe drive

981
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:54,090
down the west coast a little bit
before heading back.

982
00:59:55,740 --> 01:00:00,480
Yeah, sounds good. Hmm,

983
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,010
you come in you come in with

984
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,510
no. Okay.

985
01:00:04,290 --> 01:00:05,430
So that's the answer there.

986
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,110
Okay. Onward Volvo plus tuning
in Raleigh, North Carolina 250.

987
01:00:10,110 --> 01:00:15,420
K, good work. Raul Flaman. In
some play wooden's will

988
01:00:15,420 --> 01:00:18,540
somewhere other parts unknown.
250

989
01:00:18,570 --> 01:00:23,040
Kenneth sounds like voters Ville
verdens Ville Queens village,

990
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,600
perhaps stupid pay power with a
double single Biden code they

991
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,740
don't know they need to get the
get on unit coders come into

992
01:00:31,740 --> 01:00:33,360
2013 place.

993
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:40,200
KENNETH Brzezinski and Malenko
Illinois Tool fy 13. Robert

994
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:46,260
Hill, Glen rock, Wyoming.
Google, he said due to the

995
01:00:46,260 --> 01:00:50,070
Google fiasco he wanted he
always says he just saying why

996
01:00:50,070 --> 01:00:53,760
he's giving us money because his
$5 month he thinks is probably

997
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,200
too low. And he says 70 threes
and he said he's obviously a ham

998
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,240
by Kevin Johnson six hivelocity
car KJ six HVC

999
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:07,260
Yes, oh M. FB

1000
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,150
kit O'Rourke and Frostburg.
Maryland tuner bucks want to get

1001
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:14,760
some value for value. I'd like
to get some karma for the show.

1002
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,840
Hopefully some pre donor boners
turn in to full blown donors as

1003
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:23,100
always, thanks for the best
podcast in the universe. You've

1004
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:29,220
got karma. And I think I
remember something coming in

1005
01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:33,600
from varney. Let me just take a
quick look. Okay. No, David

1006
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,100
Barney $200. With no comment. We
want to thank them and everybody

1007
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,100
else who helped us produce this
show. Five

1008
01:01:41,130 --> 01:01:45,420
and we want to thank our artists
in particular, new artists on

1009
01:01:45,420 --> 01:01:51,300
the scene who did the album art
for episode 2513. Bomb Whoa,

1010
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:56,040
bot. Thank you. Bombo bot good
work.

1011
01:01:56,730 --> 01:02:02,490
And magic divorce.org/n. A is
the main donation donation

1012
01:02:02,490 --> 01:02:11,100
support page. Also Devorah or
channel direct.com/n? A Oh? No

1013
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:15,090
agenda show.com. How's it going?
The nation is working. Sometimes

1014
01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:17,040
I'm really good at that. It's
like you have those names at the

1015
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,380
end. Let me help otherwise, I'm
just falling all over. Let me

1016
01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:20,670
help. Sunday.

1017
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,760
Slash and a That's right,

1018
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,250
Sunday, the beginning of a new
week trying to go out and

1019
01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:27,600
propagate that formula.

1020
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,460
Our formula is this. We go out.
We hit people in the mouth

1021
01:02:43,590 --> 01:02:54,180
shut so I realized that you
probably met up with our friends

1022
01:02:54,180 --> 01:03:00,120
from Austin. Laurie Frick and
her husband Mark. Yeah. How was

1023
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,680
that? Did they talk to you about
it? However, I'm just asking how

1024
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:10,080
it was? I think they're sweet.
That was yeah, they are but NASA

1025
01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:12,750
just to set the stage. These are
the Obama bots.

1026
01:03:12,930 --> 01:03:14,940
I didn't realize that till about
halfway through them.

1027
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,710
Anyway, it was a meeting you
had. Oh, you guys are the Obama

1028
01:03:19,710 --> 01:03:20,250
bots.

1029
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,910
Oh, I've always wanted to meet
you if

1030
01:03:23,940 --> 01:03:26,220
you actually said that, didn't
you? Pretty much.

1031
01:03:26,790 --> 01:03:33,030
So Miss Mickey received an email
this morning. Okay, John C.

1032
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:36,240
Dvorak. This is from Laurie
suggested I report that he was

1033
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:42,000
an incredible prick and keep his
reputation intact. But in fact,

1034
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:50,250
he was gracious. chatty,
charming, and we talked for at

1035
01:03:50,250 --> 01:03:50,850
least

1036
01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:55,380
two hours, did a show.

1037
01:03:56,130 --> 01:04:01,830
He met my dealer Edward and
grilled him on the world of art

1038
01:04:01,830 --> 01:04:05,700
and art fairs. Then we had wine
at the Gucci greens restaurant

1039
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:09,420
on the pier, and talked and
gossiped about all sorts of

1040
01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:14,850
things. Seriously. Good was the
highlight of the day. Thanks for

1041
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,730
urging him to come. Even Mark
liked him.

1042
01:04:19,170 --> 01:04:26,010
So you told me you told me that
you said to them, he's gonna be

1043
01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:27,090
mean to you.

1044
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:32,460
I had to set expectations.
Because, you know, and I like

1045
01:04:32,460 --> 01:04:35,970
these people. Even if they're
Obama bots, doesn't matter. I

1046
01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:41,130
like him. I don't like crazy
Republicans either. And now, but

1047
01:04:41,130 --> 01:04:42,630
you know, I was like, I don't
want to, you know, because,

1048
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:49,170
look, you're an acquired taste.
For the I remember the first

1049
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:53,850
time you met Mickey, we had
dinner, and you are such a

1050
01:04:53,850 --> 01:04:58,620
douchebag. And she was and she
hated you. And she got so mad.

1051
01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:02,310
And this is like the Let's go
over this correct she got so mad

1052
01:05:02,310 --> 01:05:03,180
in the car

1053
01:05:03,210 --> 01:05:07,680
she This is because you got
plastered. No, I did not get

1054
01:05:08,220 --> 01:05:13,620
eight Juwan was you missed it?
Yes. That's my point are you

1055
01:05:13,650 --> 01:05:15,810
you're being steamed up after
that episode.

1056
01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:20,520
She actually said get out of the
car. And I said I'm not getting

1057
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:25,890
out of the car. Get out of the
car. I did my part. You were

1058
01:05:25,890 --> 01:05:28,800
horrible and but it was like
some experiment like you're

1059
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,560
like, Oh, I got a great idea.
Let's let's they love each

1060
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,620
other. He's just left his wife
for her. Let's screw with their

1061
01:05:34,620 --> 01:05:40,650
heads. That's the truth. Devorah
that's what you did admit it

1062
01:05:42,090 --> 01:05:43,140
was a little bit of that.

1063
01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:45,180
Yeah, there was a little bit of
that. So anyway, whatever

1064
01:05:45,180 --> 01:05:45,600
happens

1065
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,320
somewhere I from my perspective,
the holes that that particular

1066
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,760
night was hilarious.

1067
01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:58,080
It was it was like our first
fight. Not to be the last.

1068
01:05:58,830 --> 01:06:02,070
So anyway, yeah, no, I liked it
to him. But we ended up talking

1069
01:06:02,070 --> 01:06:04,680
mostly about art movements.
arches, you know, she sold

1070
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:08,370
out. What? What do you mean? She
sold out?

1071
01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:10,440
All her works that were at that
example.

1072
01:06:10,529 --> 01:06:13,349
Oh, I'm telling you. She was
incredibly successful.

1073
01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:14,970
One Piece went for 12 grand.

1074
01:06:14,970 --> 01:06:19,260
I'm telling you, she's hugely
successful. And I see I see

1075
01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:20,700
people copying what she does.

1076
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,270
She sold out today. I think
they're still running today.

1077
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:25,650
She's got nothing to sell.

1078
01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:29,280
Unbelievable. And I mean, not
unbelievable, but fantastic.

1079
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,150
From what the hell? They're
paying for dinner next time.

1080
01:06:33,210 --> 01:06:35,580
That's why I told them after she
said where you guys are buying

1081
01:06:35,580 --> 01:06:35,910
really?

1082
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:41,640
Where's her donation? No,
they're listening. You know,

1083
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,450
they're listening. Oh,

1084
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:44,940
no, I know. They're gonna talk
about what are you talking about

1085
01:06:44,940 --> 01:06:47,160
it? Yeah, but where's your
donation? Where's your where's

1086
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,360
your Dame hood? Where's your

1087
01:06:48,779 --> 01:06:53,159
HP hacks from the HP 3000 A
vignette?

1088
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:56,670
I think she worked at vignette.
Maybe I think she started

1089
01:06:56,670 --> 01:06:57,840
vignette. Maybe?

1090
01:06:58,020 --> 01:07:00,360
I don't remember that. I
shouldn't say anything about it.

1091
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,800
That's a nice thing.

1092
01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:06,690
piny minor. No, that was No. No,
you mean the publishing

1093
01:07:06,690 --> 01:07:11,490
platform? Yeah, no. Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.

1094
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,920
Another one a Halsey miners
little creations. We already

1095
01:07:14,940 --> 01:07:16,380
make more money than God.

1096
01:07:18,690 --> 01:07:23,880
Really? I don't remember. I may
just be confused with someone

1097
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,420
else. I

1098
01:07:24,690 --> 01:07:28,470
mean, maybe you're confused with
what she was part of. I thought

1099
01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:30,240
that my energy I looked it up.

1100
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:36,150
I maybe she was well, woman says
Laurie Frick. That's really

1101
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:36,750
probably was

1102
01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:40,860
born. And thanks for being a
vignette software snap NBC. I

1103
01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:43,380
see. I told you. I think she was
a co founder.

1104
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:48,030
I don't. I could. Oh, I wish I
had known that. Because I would

1105
01:07:48,030 --> 01:07:49,890
love to gossip about Halsey
minor.

1106
01:07:49,890 --> 01:07:53,850
Yeah. Well, you need what is
wrong with you? Are you living

1107
01:07:53,850 --> 01:07:56,190
in this age? When you meet with
someone? The first thing you do

1108
01:07:56,190 --> 01:07:58,110
is Wikipedia and Google them.

1109
01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:04,470
I I just went in and did the
well, I could have, but I looked

1110
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:10,410
at her YouTube video on from TED
X. And bitched about Ted a lot

1111
01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:13,200
of times of this meeting. Yeah,
I'm sure she agreed with you on

1112
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,140
that. Oh, yes, she did,
actually. Yeah. And so I could

1113
01:08:16,140 --> 01:08:17,790
recognize her but she wouldn't
admit

1114
01:08:17,790 --> 01:08:20,580
to it because that would blow
her chances of being in the TED

1115
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:21,150
crowd.

1116
01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:25,320
Well, anyway, so I wanted to see
what she looked like so and then

1117
01:08:25,350 --> 01:08:29,370
watching someone on video
because I recognize them and

1118
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,160
it's just uh, I didn't do much
more research than that.

1119
01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:36,390
Anyway they are they are my
favorite Obama bots

1120
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:40,320
without Without doubt

1121
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,329
how they feel about all this
stuff but the Obama extension of

1122
01:08:45,329 --> 01:08:46,289
the CHENEY

1123
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:49,980
Well, I think we're meeting on
the psyche

1124
01:08:49,980 --> 01:08:52,290
is like it shows they just they
just don't live here.

1125
01:08:52,649 --> 01:08:55,019
I think I should do a
presentation at our next dinner.

1126
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:55,619
Yeah, and

1127
01:08:55,740 --> 01:08:59,010
like a TEDx speech. No, but
eight minutes

1128
01:08:59,490 --> 01:09:05,610
no, no, I'll do a boring I'll
play some video clips. And here

1129
01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:09,060
is here's MSNBC this is your
channel let me just show you

1130
01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:12,660
what you may have missed while
you were out selling art again.

1131
01:09:12,900 --> 01:09:15,990
The richest people I know are
Democrats There you go. Once

1132
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:17,730
again. Good work.

1133
01:09:19,350 --> 01:09:29,160
Adams gonna read his E man Adams
gonna read Izzy Adams gonna read

1134
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:35,400
his email on the no know agenda
show. So there's

1135
01:09:35,639 --> 01:09:38,579
only a couple of things that
that came in, you know, I'm

1136
01:09:38,579 --> 01:09:44,729
still in a never ending search
for young and to listen to this

1137
01:09:44,759 --> 01:09:49,919
program. And by the way I did
the scariest email I got was the

1138
01:09:49,919 --> 01:09:53,009
following. Your name is being
tarnished by negative

1139
01:09:53,009 --> 01:09:59,489
information online. What can you
do to prevent this? Have you

1140
01:09:59,489 --> 01:10:00,419
gotten any of the He's

1141
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,110
not for a while I think they go
into my spam box because I don't

1142
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:04,980
really get spam

1143
01:10:04,980 --> 01:10:08,220
do something now Time is not on
your side. Wouldn't it be

1144
01:10:08,220 --> 01:10:10,830
terrible if your loving family
current boss, the people you

1145
01:10:10,830 --> 01:10:13,350
live beside or your close
friends see this embarrassing

1146
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,370
and potentially career ending
information? And I'm like, You

1147
01:10:17,370 --> 01:10:24,810
mean the show notes? Hello, Adam
says producer Brendan, I'm a 17

1148
01:10:24,810 --> 01:10:27,090
year old high school student at
my school about an hour and a

1149
01:10:27,090 --> 01:10:31,740
half northwest of Toronto, and
an air we have tornado drills.

1150
01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:35,430
What happens during this you
ask? Well, the principal or some

1151
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:39,120
other Bozo gets on the giant
voice system, and tells us to

1152
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:44,520
get in the halls and crouch down
against the lockers that he

1153
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,600
proceeds to blow into the
microphone to simulate wind

1154
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,130
noise. What's

1155
01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:59,670
this is a test. No one takes him
seriously. So while in the

1156
01:10:59,670 --> 01:11:02,850
halls, everyone pulls out their
phones and Snapchats each other.

1157
01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:07,650
The last lockdown drill we had I
was in the library cops came to

1158
01:11:07,650 --> 01:11:10,980
watch us have this lockdown
drill and pound on the window

1159
01:11:10,980 --> 01:11:14,520
with their guns. We are locked
into a small room with windows

1160
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,540
facing the street, which makes
all of about 50 of us in this

1161
01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:21,480
room sitting duck should a real
threat be present in the

1162
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:25,620
morning. Adios mofos producer
Brendan there in Toronto. So

1163
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,870
this is proof that what you see
on television is not what's

1164
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:33,750
really going on in the world.
People are smart, the new

1165
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:36,450
generation is smart, the kids
are smart, they just need an

1166
01:11:36,450 --> 01:11:39,990
outlet. And they just need this.
I need to start the Adam curry

1167
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:43,140
School of podcasting. We need to
get these kids communicating

1168
01:11:43,140 --> 01:11:47,190
with each other about this kind
of stuff, because it's okay. I'm

1169
01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:51,660
a 48, almost 49 year old guy.
And I'm happy that we got a 17

1170
01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:54,960
year old who's listening to this
show. I hope they can relate to

1171
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,080
everything we talked about.
Maybe they do maybe this is

1172
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,860
maybe this time

1173
01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:03,660
of year they do what normal
people do. They listen to it,

1174
01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:07,740
and they consider it and they
maybe don't buy into some of it.

1175
01:12:07,740 --> 01:12:10,080
And some of the say, well,
they're skeptical, which they

1176
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,100
should be and then they go look
it up for themselves is worse.

1177
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,030
Yeah, or whatever or, or you
know, but it's this way you're

1178
01:12:18,030 --> 01:12:22,140
supposed to do things this way.
The that's the way the public I

1179
01:12:22,140 --> 01:12:25,890
think generally speaking does
things but they're not being

1180
01:12:25,890 --> 01:12:27,960
allowed you I think we have to
always remember one of the

1181
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,990
things about the show that
always struck me which is that

1182
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,500
people gravitate toward it
saying stuff like you know, I

1183
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:38,400
knew they always felt something
was wrong. Yes. I always

1184
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,800
believed some crazy things was
going on in the background. I

1185
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,100
wasn't being told I wasn't being
told what was going on and now

1186
01:12:44,130 --> 01:12:48,690
listening to you guys just read
legislation and listen to these

1187
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:55,980
guys on these various forums and
hearings. proves that I the

1188
01:12:55,980 --> 01:12:59,880
listener was right. All along
and like it's we're a breath of

1189
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,850
fresh air because we deliver the
gay on your right to real

1190
01:13:02,850 --> 01:13:03,480
information.

1191
01:13:03,660 --> 01:13:07,470
Well, and we do, do we deliver
the best that we can reality. So

1192
01:13:07,470 --> 01:13:11,820
for instance, we were talking
about Cody R Wilson. Now this is

1193
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:17,910
the the Austin law student at
UT. So So it said, so the book

1194
01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:22,410
of knowledge says who had runs a
nonprofit which even though I

1195
01:13:22,410 --> 01:13:25,830
can't find any information on
this nonprofit Defense

1196
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:28,920
Distributed, which has been a
nonprofit for at least a year

1197
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,990
but has not filed any paperwork
as such. And has fired a gun,

1198
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:36,930
which was fired once was
replicated in Finland, the thing

1199
01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:43,860
blew up, which is nothing short
of a really bad zip gun. We've

1200
01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:47,820
been following this story,
thinking that this is there is

1201
01:13:47,820 --> 01:13:54,660
something else going on here.
And whether Cody Wilson is with

1202
01:13:54,660 --> 01:13:58,170
the good guys or with the bad
guys, there is definitely

1203
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,830
something going on here. So when
we discussed the previous show,

1204
01:14:01,830 --> 01:14:03,630
and I got a lot of email about
this, which I'm not going to

1205
01:14:03,630 --> 01:14:08,010
read, you know, we said, hey,
this guy's got an accent, which

1206
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,190
already was a setup from one of
our producers, saying, you know,

1207
01:14:11,190 --> 01:14:13,290
we thought it was Australian,
John, you thought maybe South

1208
01:14:13,290 --> 01:14:17,040
African, most people who
listened to our discussion and

1209
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,160
our analysis, which could be
wrong. This were the first ones

1210
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:26,190
to say. They all a lot of them
say look, I'm Australian, I can

1211
01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:28,470
add this sounds like an
Australian who grew up here

1212
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:32,040
moved to the states and lived in
the States for a long time. All

1213
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,160
I know is we can't really find
any background information on

1214
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,000
him, which is weird to say the
least his Wikipedia page is

1215
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,840
very, very sparse, none of where
he grew up, who we grew up with

1216
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:48,000
where he's from, does he have
family and none of that? And I

1217
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,270
got actually I got a couple of
really angry emails with people,

1218
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:54,570
you know who I think their heart
is in the right place. saying,

1219
01:14:54,570 --> 01:14:57,300
you know, why don't you just go
talk to him go over there. He's

1220
01:14:57,300 --> 01:15:01,920
in Austin. Like, that's not what
we do. I'm not an investigative

1221
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,460
reporter. And that's also not
the thing that I'm interested

1222
01:15:05,460 --> 01:15:10,260
in, whether he is for real or
not. What I'm interested in is

1223
01:15:10,290 --> 01:15:14,310
why are we seeing these very
slick? It's almost like a

1224
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:22,530
promotional program, about the
about guns and printables. And,

1225
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:27,210
and really, 3d printing of
weapons, which is what he's

1226
01:15:27,210 --> 01:15:32,760
doing is not special. And as I'm
thinking about this, I think it

1227
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,410
was one or two, maybe three
episodes ago, we went back to it

1228
01:15:37,410 --> 01:15:40,140
was about climate change. And we
went back to the State of the

1229
01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:43,890
Union. And I had that clip
laying around. And somewhere in

1230
01:15:43,890 --> 01:15:46,530
the back of my mind, I'm like,
Wasn't there something in the

1231
01:15:46,530 --> 01:15:52,050
State of the Union about this
very thing? And so I go back.

1232
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,740
And by the way, you got to do
some work to find the state.

1233
01:15:55,890 --> 01:15:59,310
When it's in February Kennedy
appearances The President has

1234
01:15:59,310 --> 01:16:04,350
made and videos all he does, oh,
my God. So luck in Oh, yeah. And

1235
01:16:04,350 --> 01:16:08,820
the C span search is so helpful.
State of the Union in quotes is

1236
01:16:08,850 --> 01:16:09,660
not in quotes.

1237
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:13,590
It's horrid. It says C span
search is a piece of crap. So

1238
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:15,360
anyway, I find this

1239
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,940
there are things we can do right
now, to accelerate this trend.

1240
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,320
Last year, we created our first
manufacturing innovation

1241
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:32,790
institute in Youngstown, Ohio,
once shuttered warehouse is now

1242
01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:36,210
a state of the art lab, where
new workers are mastering the 3d

1243
01:16:36,210 --> 01:16:39,060
printing that has the potential
to revolutionize the way we make

1244
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:42,930
almost everything. There's no
reason this can't happen in

1245
01:16:42,930 --> 01:16:47,250
other towns. So tonight, I'm
announcing the launch of three

1246
01:16:47,250 --> 01:16:49,770
more of these manufacturing
hubs, where businesses will

1247
01:16:49,770 --> 01:16:52,830
partner with the Department of
Defense and Energy to turn

1248
01:16:52,830 --> 01:16:55,710
regions left behind by
globalization into global

1249
01:16:55,710 --> 01:17:00,360
centers of high tech jobs. And I
asked this Congress to help

1250
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,110
create a network of 15 of these
hubs and guarantee that the next

1251
01:17:04,110 --> 01:17:07,980
revolution in manufacturing is
made right here in America, we

1252
01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:08,880
can get that done.

1253
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,180
So of course, and while he's
saying this, they're they're

1254
01:17:15,210 --> 01:17:21,030
actually the camera is getting a
shot of some guys who he

1255
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:24,840
actually does like a like a, he
doesn't like a gang sign. He's

1256
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,530
like some young guy in the, in
the, in the bleachers there

1257
01:17:28,530 --> 01:17:31,200
during the State of the Union.
And he does like it with the two

1258
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,420
fingers like yeah, you know,
like you don't you want to want

1259
01:17:33,420 --> 01:17:35,340
this douchebag like throwing
throwing a

1260
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:39,720
douchebag going against guys
white guys. Yeah,

1261
01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:43,110
like, wow, the guy just throw a
gang sign during the State of

1262
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:47,340
the Union. Okay, I missed that
the first time around. Okay, so

1263
01:17:47,340 --> 01:17:48,870
now I go around looking

1264
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:53,040
and sign what did it say? You're
looking at there there are there

1265
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,750
is a decoding system. Yes. No,

1266
01:17:54,750 --> 01:17:57,570
no, I know exactly what I've
said. I'm a douchebag is what it

1267
01:17:57,570 --> 01:18:03,750
was. Terry tipper that we've
seen this sign before. So that

1268
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:08,430
so the President talks about
these manufacturing innovation

1269
01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:15,030
institutes. So I go looking for
the innovation institutes. And

1270
01:18:15,090 --> 01:18:18,300
you come up with this
manufacturing.gov, where you can

1271
01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:21,570
find some information about it.
And this is relatively recent,

1272
01:18:21,570 --> 01:18:23,490
the Obama administration
announced it's launching

1273
01:18:23,490 --> 01:18:27,600
competitions to create three new
manufacturing innovation

1274
01:18:27,630 --> 01:18:31,350
institutes with a federal
commitment of $200 million.

1275
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:34,680
Okay, so now this is getting
interesting, there's a lot of

1276
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:41,490
money involved. And then we have
a fact sheet about the

1277
01:18:41,490 --> 01:18:43,890
competition for three new
manufacturing innovation

1278
01:18:43,890 --> 01:18:47,070
institutes. And at the bottom
there talks about 3d printing

1279
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:50,850
additive manufacturing, often
referred to as 3d printing is a

1280
01:18:50,850 --> 01:18:53,970
new way of making products and
components from a digital model,

1281
01:18:54,180 --> 01:18:57,150
and will have implications in a
wide range of industries

1282
01:18:57,150 --> 01:19:01,050
including defense, aerospace,
which is the same thing,

1283
01:19:01,290 --> 01:19:05,640
automotive same thing and metals
manufacturing, like an office

1284
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,000
printer that puts 2d digital
files on a piece of paper. A 3d

1285
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,670
printer creates compounds by
depositing thin layers of

1286
01:19:11,670 --> 01:19:14,910
material one after another.
Using a digital blue blueprint,

1287
01:19:15,090 --> 01:19:18,120
until the exact component
required has been created. The

1288
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,870
Department of Defense envisions
customizing parts on site for

1289
01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:25,080
operational systems that would
otherwise be expensive to make

1290
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,230
or ship. The Department of
Energy anticipates that additive

1291
01:19:28,230 --> 01:19:31,620
processes would be able to save
more than 50% energy use

1292
01:19:31,620 --> 01:19:35,400
compared to today's subtractive
manufacturing process

1293
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,390
manufacturing process. So then
I'm like, Okay, where are these

1294
01:19:39,390 --> 01:19:46,080
centers? You need to go to
nami.org That's November Alpha

1295
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,430
Mike, India india.org. The
National additive manufacturing

1296
01:19:50,460 --> 01:19:54,900
innovation institute when you
see this, it becomes very clear.

1297
01:19:55,590 --> 01:20:00,360
What the what this is about. Is
it's a it's not even a war on 3d

1298
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:06,030
printers, this is a war on
hackerspaces, we can't have, we

1299
01:20:06,030 --> 01:20:10,710
cannot have in the furthest of
any imagination, individuals

1300
01:20:10,710 --> 01:20:13,980
grouping together in
hackerspaces. And we have turns

1301
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:16,530
out we have a pretty big one
here in Austin, which I only

1302
01:20:16,530 --> 01:20:20,250
have two or three here. I'm
going to visit this now now I'm

1303
01:20:20,370 --> 01:20:26,280
now I'm really freaking
interested. This is a and I

1304
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,950
think we were writing our
assertion and whether Cody is on

1305
01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:31,620
the good side of this or that
whether it but no matter what

1306
01:20:31,620 --> 01:20:37,170
he's doing, he is helping the
government make additive

1307
01:20:37,170 --> 01:20:41,400
manufacturing, dangerous, and
therefore it has to be

1308
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,430
controlled. And the way you
control that is in these

1309
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:49,620
innovation institutes. In these
manufacturing innovation

1310
01:20:49,650 --> 01:20:53,850
institutes, which are government
sanctioned with huge budgets,

1311
01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:59,100
we're talking $75 million a pop
people. So where is everyone

1312
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:02,070
going to these are going to be
and Department of Defense, it's

1313
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:06,360
aerospace. This is this is the
business of America. If you look

1314
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,830
at where where our industry is,
we make stuff that goes on to

1315
01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:15,000
stuff that kill stuff. And
predominantly brown people who

1316
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,480
live in sandy areas were very,
very good at this I had not my

1317
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:22,050
favorite, but that's what that
is our industry. That is our

1318
01:21:22,050 --> 01:21:26,970
industry, instead of people
making their own bicycles, or

1319
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:32,700
you know, their own pots and
pans or we this is a it truly is

1320
01:21:32,730 --> 01:21:35,460
a revolution. This is what the
TPP is about to the Trans

1321
01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:40,830
Pacific Partnership, all of
these intellectual property laws

1322
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:43,050
that are all secret that we're
not allowed to know about,

1323
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,640
because of this, and we need to
figure out how to get a hold of

1324
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,210
as much of this technology. And
it's it's gonna go underground,

1325
01:21:51,210 --> 01:21:54,630
it has to go underground to
protect it. Because this is

1326
01:21:54,630 --> 01:21:58,680
truly our future. And this is
this is training wheels. Is it

1327
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,530
training wheels with a helmet on
the stuff that we have right

1328
01:22:01,530 --> 01:22:05,340
now? The future is so large and
these people, the big

1329
01:22:05,340 --> 01:22:08,580
manufacturers, and yes, of
course, it's going to be GE who

1330
01:22:08,610 --> 01:22:12,450
will has the big the giant voice
system called broadcast, who

1331
01:22:12,450 --> 01:22:15,060
will be telling you how
dangerous this is. And we have

1332
01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:18,420
to regulate this technology
because oh, you know, stupid

1333
01:22:18,420 --> 01:22:23,190
slaves, they might be going off
like Cody and making a gun. And

1334
01:22:23,220 --> 01:22:27,840
so I think we have latched on to
something here that is as

1335
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:32,730
important as the energy pipeline
industry that is, you know, that

1336
01:22:32,730 --> 01:22:39,180
is wrecking the world. This is
going to be a front. And this is

1337
01:22:39,180 --> 01:22:42,270
actually a front I want to be I
want to be on the front lines of

1338
01:22:42,270 --> 01:22:42,810
this.

1339
01:22:45,630 --> 01:22:46,590
Well sums up

1340
01:22:48,780 --> 01:22:51,600
to sum it up, ladies and
gentlemen. Something's amiss.

1341
01:22:52,890 --> 01:22:54,780
Thanks, John. Thanks for the
backup there, buddy.

1342
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:59,250
Good at this analysis. Yeah,
something's up. Something's up.

1343
01:22:59,910 --> 01:23:06,480
So the hackerspace thing is
fantastic. And I'm thinking,

1344
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:10,620
although I see the one in Austin
is already messed up, you know,

1345
01:23:10,620 --> 01:23:12,990
the minute people like try to
make money off of it, that's

1346
01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:18,300
when that's when it breaks down.
You know, it's like, Oh, we got

1347
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:21,690
shares in the Hackerspace. And,
you know, there's angel

1348
01:23:21,690 --> 01:23:25,320
investors, like, Oh, you're
ruining everything. You know,

1349
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,870
this is this is like farming,
you know, this is the this is

1350
01:23:27,870 --> 01:23:32,070
the, the, the 21st century
version of Yeah, no,

1351
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:35,430
that's actually a good analogy,
because the little farmer is the

1352
01:23:35,550 --> 01:23:41,400
whole goal of big ag, as they
like to call it is to just wipe

1353
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,250
out the little farmers and then
industrialize all our food

1354
01:23:44,250 --> 01:23:49,230
instead of having some you know,
great tasting or heirloom

1355
01:23:49,230 --> 01:23:52,680
product that we can eat maybe a
little actually is not even that

1356
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,280
much more expensive than the
commercial stuff. But it keeps a

1357
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:00,780
little farmer in in business
those guys they would like love

1358
01:24:00,780 --> 01:24:01,860
to shoot them all

1359
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:05,580
back and shoot them all there
was

1360
01:24:05,580 --> 01:24:08,310
recent legislation that's a
that's coming out and we'll

1361
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:11,130
probably discussing it further
in shows in the future when some

1362
01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:14,160
more when some hearings show up
about you know, pretty much

1363
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,770
putting the organic farmer out
of business and putting out this

1364
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,440
putting the small dairy out of
business anyone who makes raw

1365
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:24,030
milk they go God I got letters
from people all you have

1366
01:24:24,030 --> 01:24:26,280
extolled the virtues of raw
milk, you're going to kill

1367
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,070
everyone. And so then I said
well, that's interesting because

1368
01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:33,060
we've been drinking raw milk up
in Port Angeles for 15 years

1369
01:24:33,060 --> 01:24:37,110
that's all we drink gallons of
it and no one's ever gotten ill

1370
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:39,600
and actually feel a lot better
drinking it you don't you know

1371
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,830
it's gonna be other Oh,

1372
01:24:40,830 --> 01:24:43,920
well hold on a second. Now you
are there are some things I'm

1373
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,300
seeing going wrong with you.

1374
01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:50,670
And I think that I wasn't mean
to the to Obama bots.

1375
01:24:50,700 --> 01:24:54,600
No, no, no. Do you remember what
we talked about last week right

1376
01:24:54,600 --> 01:25:00,150
after the show? Yeah. Do you
know me I talked about it. But

1377
01:25:00,150 --> 01:25:02,760
was it? The about your new
grandchild?

1378
01:25:03,330 --> 01:25:06,240
Oh, well, no, I'd rather not
talking about family matters.

1379
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:12,000
But to be honest about it, okay,
but no, that's because I'm down

1380
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:12,570
here. It

1381
01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:13,590
was hilarious. I

1382
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:17,250
have not. Yes. Very funny to
you. You just like to ridicule

1383
01:25:17,250 --> 01:25:17,460
me.

1384
01:25:18,270 --> 01:25:19,470
That's all I live for.

1385
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:24,660
Yes. True. I've been down here
for four months. I have not had

1386
01:25:24,660 --> 01:25:27,330
any raw milk. So I My mind is
slowly going.

1387
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:30,150
That's it. There you go. Don't
care. I'll take that. That's

1388
01:25:30,150 --> 01:25:33,930
proof. Two minutes. Okay. That's
good. So that's, that's positive

1389
01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:38,610
proof. Proof positive. That's
good. Well, in Europe,

1390
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:42,150
by the way, you have your little
list here of people's birthdays.

1391
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:45,480
I get a kick out you're gonna
get a kick out of this the

1392
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:48,030
birthday unless you have to add
a new name to it that JC

1393
01:25:48,030 --> 01:25:52,680
apparently forgot. Okay. Eric is
brother.

1394
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:56,970
The shill? Yeah. When

1395
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:03,630
was his birthday? When is it? It
was yesterday. Oh, okay. Wow.

1396
01:26:05,310 --> 01:26:09,870
Okay. Now you're not this is
actually kind of low. I mean,

1397
01:26:09,870 --> 01:26:11,190
you're calling out your kid.

1398
01:26:12,750 --> 01:26:14,850
Just kidding. Tim, back to the
topic.

1399
01:26:16,410 --> 01:26:21,870
In Euro land. They have new seed
laws where you won't be able to

1400
01:26:21,870 --> 01:26:24,240
have any seeds unless they're
registered with the government.

1401
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,480
Yeah, there has been actually
there was another thing that

1402
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:31,410
happened in Euro law too.
Besides oil, a couple of

1403
01:26:31,410 --> 01:26:32,550
horrible things that go into

1404
01:26:32,580 --> 01:26:34,080
the olive oil.

1405
01:26:34,620 --> 01:26:40,020
Yeah, yeah, the olive oil. Can
you believe that? Yes. Once you

1406
01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:41,970
explain what that is to people
who don't know.

1407
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,770
Okay, I have it here I have an
actual link. You can find all

1408
01:26:46,770 --> 01:26:50,760
this in the show notes of course
at five one for.na shownotes.com

1409
01:26:50,970 --> 01:26:56,490
After the show is published. The
European Union is to ban all of

1410
01:26:56,490 --> 01:27:00,240
jugs and dipping bowls from
restaurant tables in a move

1411
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,810
described by one of Britain's
top cooks as authoritarian and

1412
01:27:03,810 --> 01:27:09,090
damaging to artisanal food
makers. So yes, apparently,

1413
01:27:09,690 --> 01:27:12,870
starting next year, olive oil
presented at restaurant table,

1414
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:17,250
quote unquote, must be in pre
packaged factory bottles with a

1415
01:27:17,250 --> 01:27:21,810
tamper proof dispensing nozzle
and labeling in line with EU

1416
01:27:21,810 --> 01:27:23,700
industrial standards.

1417
01:27:24,780 --> 01:27:28,020
So in other words, if a little
restaurant in the countryside in

1418
01:27:28,050 --> 01:27:31,170
Italy, let's say in Tuscany,
where they have throat, they

1419
01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:33,720
grow their own olives and they
crushed their own olive oil and

1420
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,910
they bring it out to the
customer. They can't do that

1421
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:36,420
anymore.

1422
01:27:37,019 --> 01:27:42,059
That is not allowed. Now, they
can of course, bring their

1423
01:27:42,059 --> 01:27:45,749
olives to the industrial giant,
who will mash them with all the

1424
01:27:45,749 --> 01:27:48,899
other olives and package them in
nice little friendly cartons.

1425
01:27:50,309 --> 01:27:53,459
And then they can put the little
cartons on the table. And the

1426
01:27:53,459 --> 01:27:57,629
whole thing is said but this you
know, this is just a it's such a

1427
01:27:57,629 --> 01:28:00,269
pendulum. I mean it all comes
back. Our grandkids will be

1428
01:28:00,269 --> 01:28:05,849
great. Whatever their names are,
exactly. Or the Our granny I

1429
01:28:05,849 --> 01:28:09,539
wish I had a grandkid it will
shortly. My daughter decided

1430
01:28:09,539 --> 01:28:10,529
she's lesbian. It's like,

1431
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,630
oh, that's a phase.

1432
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:15,240
I don't know. No, I don't think
this one's a face. They're

1433
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:16,200
really in love.

1434
01:28:17,099 --> 01:28:20,639
She has a girlfriend? Yeah. Oh,
there goes your grandkid.

1435
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:25,620
Can I borrow one of yours? Or
actually they made a note

1436
01:28:25,620 --> 01:28:30,090
this talk now that now there's
talk of of all kinds of the but

1437
01:28:30,090 --> 01:28:34,110
I'm like well once you try each
other for a while take your

1438
01:28:34,110 --> 01:28:36,150
time. Yeah.

1439
01:28:37,410 --> 01:28:39,960
Anyways, so you get any more
commentary about the national

1440
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,360
additive manufacturing
innovation institute? Why did

1441
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,410
you come up with these names and
Ami has an official defense

1442
01:28:46,410 --> 01:28:47,160
industry

1443
01:28:47,730 --> 01:28:49,380
it is look at these guys so

1444
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,460
look at the site. Look at these
guys in defense deuces

1445
01:28:53,519 --> 01:28:57,389
era Bo Boeing guys McDonald's
guys, let them arrow arrows

1446
01:28:57,389 --> 01:28:58,529
Raytheon,

1447
01:28:58,650 --> 01:29:04,140
the palm group. I mean, come on
this whole thing is and they're

1448
01:29:04,140 --> 01:29:10,680
and this is Youngstown, Ohio. So
this is not this is. So the

1449
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,620
President said let's set up the
centers and the first one is in

1450
01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:18,030
Youngstown, Youngstown, Ohio,
but this one, this is a I think

1451
01:29:18,030 --> 01:29:21,510
it's for profit. This is not
like a nonprofit dealio here.

1452
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:28,800
Let me just see members become a
member. So anyway, this is you

1453
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,220
know, it's clear what they want.
And we have to encourage, um,

1454
01:29:32,250 --> 01:29:37,200
maybe I should do. I think we
need more. And I think really

1455
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,110
the hacker space is what it's
about. And maybe there's a

1456
01:29:40,110 --> 01:29:43,080
Kickstarter in there. I think a
Kickstarter for hacker space or

1457
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,410
like a national hacker space or
something that would be big,

1458
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,470
I think, to compete with the big
boys. Yeah,

1459
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:51,360
because this is blame.

1460
01:29:51,690 --> 01:29:54,180
Again, you won't be able to have
anything made here. It's not

1461
01:29:54,180 --> 01:29:55,380
like they're foundries.

1462
01:29:56,790 --> 01:29:57,600
Exactly.

1463
01:29:59,340 --> 01:30:05,880
So So Anyway, so regardless of
what Cody's mission, whatever

1464
01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:06,600
he's about,

1465
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:08,730
I think he hit the right word
mission.

1466
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:14,490
I think it is a mission. He
succeeded. And but he's not

1467
01:30:14,490 --> 01:30:17,550
succeeding in some. If he were
to come out with this and say,

1468
01:30:17,550 --> 01:30:20,910
look, we got to have free access
to printers now he's here hold

1469
01:30:20,910 --> 01:30:24,750
on the gun thing. And there's
some videos. I don't know. I'm

1470
01:30:24,750 --> 01:30:27,960
not trusting this, just anyway,
it doesn't matter. Because now

1471
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,510
we know what it's about so we
can keep our eye on this. This

1472
01:30:30,510 --> 01:30:33,420
is the long game. It was an
exciting time for our

1473
01:30:33,420 --> 01:30:35,880
communities that the founding
director to the boss of

1474
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:41,040
Raytheon, Please embrace. I
mean, there's like kids who have

1475
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,460
great ideas, but no, no, we have
to take all these these great

1476
01:30:44,460 --> 01:30:48,720
skills and you got to make parts
for killing machines. Hey,

1477
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:53,100
slave, get over here. This is a
paid part for my drone. No,

1478
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:56,370
that's not what this is about.
And we can make great things.

1479
01:30:57,480 --> 01:31:01,320
Did you go to the Maker Faire?
Did you see? Did you go? No, I

1480
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,410
didn't go. Oh, I was busy
working on the show. Oh, well.

1481
01:31:04,410 --> 01:31:04,620
So

1482
01:31:04,620 --> 01:31:07,260
Jean, surging, you know, the?

1483
01:31:08,099 --> 01:31:10,259
Yeah, he was supposed to meet
with me, by the way, Aaron of

1484
01:31:10,259 --> 01:31:14,039
the Marriott with the with the
with the frics. Oh, yeah. He

1485
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,790
didn't meet up. No, no showed
oh, maybe you just didn't see

1486
01:31:17,790 --> 01:31:22,620
him? No, don't worry, he saw
you. He, he, he sent me a

1487
01:31:22,620 --> 01:31:23,220
picture from him.

1488
01:31:23,700 --> 01:31:28,800
It was a red dot that kept
showing. He sent me

1489
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,020
a picture and I think there was
someone made the whole bike.

1490
01:31:32,580 --> 01:31:36,450
Like a like a printed bike with
wooden fenders and was

1491
01:31:36,450 --> 01:31:41,610
beautiful. So you know, this is
the kind of stuff that we can't

1492
01:31:41,610 --> 01:31:45,870
imagine how drastically that
will change. I mean, yesterday,

1493
01:31:46,380 --> 01:31:49,590
we we tried something which
turned out to be not such a

1494
01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:52,320
great product, not an
outstanding product, you

1495
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,150
actually recommend that we get a
misting fan.

1496
01:31:55,500 --> 01:31:59,100
No, not a fan. I recommend those
little misting little nozzles.

1497
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,600
Right. So we got a fan that has
those nozzles. Okay, this is not

1498
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:04,860
an outstanding product.

1499
01:32:05,190 --> 01:32:08,910
It basically didn't recommend
that. Puzzles. Alright,

1500
01:32:08,940 --> 01:32:12,270
well, we got the nozzles and we
got one that had a fan attached

1501
01:32:12,270 --> 01:32:15,900
to it. All right, and it's not
good. It just makes it makes you

1502
01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:16,350
wet.

1503
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,830
That's no good. No, of course,
it's no good. And that's what

1504
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:22,410
they use in the NFL. They use
those things with the fan,

1505
01:32:22,410 --> 01:32:23,340
right. But when I look

1506
01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:25,890
at this thing, because of
course, you know, it comes in a

1507
01:32:25,890 --> 01:32:30,690
box and some assembly required.
Always the IKEA ad model. Yeah.

1508
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,190
Which I am really starting to
dislike. I mean, this is this is

1509
01:32:35,190 --> 01:32:39,390
cheating people out of jobs.
This is this. That's truly what

1510
01:32:39,390 --> 01:32:43,800
it is. Because all you're doing
now is getting some cheap crap

1511
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:49,260
from China. And believe me, it
is cheap crap from China. And

1512
01:32:49,260 --> 01:32:52,050
you're not in you're not even
keeping them in jobs. Like no,

1513
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:55,800
no, just punch it out. You don't
have any slaves put it together?

1514
01:32:55,980 --> 01:32:59,790
No, no, no, keep it in an
economical box. So you can fit a

1515
01:32:59,790 --> 01:33:04,170
million of them in a container
and ship them over. Now this is

1516
01:33:04,620 --> 01:33:08,220
in fact, having a 3d printer is
going to be deemed patriotic one

1517
01:33:08,220 --> 01:33:11,760
day, put that in the book. Put
that in the book, because it is

1518
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,030
how we will fight in the global
war is how we become

1519
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:19,140
independent. Because I look at
this fan. I'm like, this is such

1520
01:33:19,140 --> 01:33:22,650
shit. It's it's it is shit.

1521
01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:27,360
It's just plastic Shit. Shit. I

1522
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,640
say, yeah, you've made your
point.

1523
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,450
And embarrassing that I'm
putting this together and then

1524
01:33:33,450 --> 01:33:35,190
you turn it on, it just makes
you wet.

1525
01:33:35,940 --> 01:33:40,470
You see that? Just put a hose
it's like a Mickey stay on

1526
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:44,070
there. You're missed.

1527
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,440
Just like, it looked good in the
brochure and everything. But no,

1528
01:33:50,340 --> 01:33:53,760
this was not an outstanding
product. So we can do and I can

1529
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,130
imagine like, you know, I'm
gonna I'm gonna have to figure

1530
01:33:56,130 --> 01:33:58,830
out this 3d modeling stuff if
what you said the other day the

1531
01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:03,570
3d Scanners that's exciting. So
I can go in I can, I can go into

1532
01:34:03,570 --> 01:34:08,010
Home Depot scan their piece of
shit Chinese fan, and then make

1533
01:34:08,010 --> 01:34:12,780
modifications to one that will
actually work. And then I don't

1534
01:34:12,780 --> 01:34:14,850
mind putting it together because
then it's mine.

1535
01:34:16,350 --> 01:34:18,090
All right. Can be a lot of that.

1536
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:21,300
Ah, yeah, there will be it's
going to be a very exciting

1537
01:34:21,300 --> 01:34:25,260
time. I wish I was 20 years
younger. Because anyone who's

1538
01:34:25,290 --> 01:34:28,710
you got to get in on this now,
you really gotta I gotta tell

1539
01:34:28,710 --> 01:34:30,960
you what you have to do. First,
you got to have to get to learn

1540
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:36,060
the software. And most of that
is Autodesk right now. Yeah. And

1541
01:34:36,060 --> 01:34:39,870
that's what they do have some
Autodesk has some modules you

1542
01:34:39,870 --> 01:34:42,450
can buy just for 3d printers
that don't cost an arm and a leg

1543
01:34:42,450 --> 01:34:44,160
and that's what you have to look
for. I think there's some public

1544
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:44,580
domains.

1545
01:34:44,730 --> 01:34:47,280
There's got to be some open
source stuff that I think I

1546
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:51,150
bought oDesk has free stuff that
you can use. Yeah, but I would

1547
01:34:51,150 --> 01:34:54,060
support look around. I'm
supporting open source in this

1548
01:34:54,060 --> 01:34:58,050
too. I mean, screw it. I'm, I'm
I'm just that's a part of this

1549
01:34:58,050 --> 01:35:02,460
revolution for the 21st century.
John, and you're not helping

1550
01:35:02,460 --> 01:35:08,010
with your, you know, raving
articles about Adobe do not

1551
01:35:08,010 --> 01:35:08,280
help.

1552
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:13,230
I would be glad to move over if
somebody would make Gimp. So it

1553
01:35:13,230 --> 01:35:14,700
was more than a piece of crap.
You

1554
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:19,740
collaborator, you just a
collaborator with the enemy is

1555
01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:24,060
good. When's the last time you
tried the game? They you know,

1556
01:35:24,060 --> 01:35:27,330
they do update this camp, I keep
forgetting. You gotta say the

1557
01:35:27,330 --> 01:35:30,030
game. When's the last time you
tried it? They do update it, you

1558
01:35:30,030 --> 01:35:34,560
know? It was a. So it's been a
couple of years. And I'll tell

1559
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,920
you, it's like, so I'm, I'm
really looking at at the end.

1560
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:43,530
Here's an hamvention is going to
have live video streams. I'm

1561
01:35:43,530 --> 01:35:47,070
cool. Oh, no, it's not cool.
Okay, Mickey came in.

1562
01:35:47,070 --> 01:35:50,760
I didn't know that she came in.
She was like, oh my god, I'm

1563
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:51,960
like, Oh, shit.

1564
01:35:52,620 --> 01:35:55,650
And sample, there was a guy put
up with these guys, there was a

1565
01:35:55,650 --> 01:35:57,720
guy who had like to talk about
antennas, he

1566
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:02,070
had a hard hat on. And on top of
the hard hat, he had a miniature

1567
01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:05,850
antenna tower, which he could
raise a guy that was

1568
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:07,320
speaking at the event,

1569
01:36:07,530 --> 01:36:13,140
he was just walking around. And
he could twist it and then when

1570
01:36:13,140 --> 01:36:18,150
rip rip could go up and down.
It's anyway, it's, it's kind of

1571
01:36:18,150 --> 01:36:22,410
sad, because the whole thing is,
there's a huge maker community

1572
01:36:22,410 --> 01:36:27,510
there as well. But it's being
overrun by, you know, by like

1573
01:36:27,540 --> 01:36:30,630
Icom who pretend to be an
American company, but I'm pretty

1574
01:36:30,630 --> 01:36:34,290
sure their stuffs all Chinese.
You know, I think I think the

1575
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,110
Chinese put their stuff
together. And you know, but

1576
01:36:37,110 --> 01:36:42,630
there's, anyway. I don't know
what I was gonna say, Oh, yes. I

1577
01:36:42,630 --> 01:36:49,020
was gonna say that. FL Digi,
there's a program that that is

1578
01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:52,860
open source that really competes
with I mean, that just competes

1579
01:36:52,860 --> 01:36:55,980
with blows the socks off of any
other commercial product out

1580
01:36:55,980 --> 01:37:00,090
there. And when you see the work
that go, there's an update every

1581
01:37:00,090 --> 01:37:03,180
couple of days, and it's just
then people are contributing.

1582
01:37:03,180 --> 01:37:06,660
And it's really nice to see a
really good piece of software

1583
01:37:07,050 --> 01:37:10,260
that is much better than any of
the commercial alternatives. And

1584
01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:13,020
I think that if enough people
were interested enough, I'm

1585
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:16,710
trying to push Miss Mickey this
way. Because she's like, oh, you

1586
01:37:16,710 --> 01:37:20,280
know, Photoshop and she's like,
oh, I want to get the Adobe

1587
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:24,450
iCloud ever. It's a good deal.
It's not a good deal. To get you

1588
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:27,030
I'll get you whatever you want,
but it's not a good deal. It's

1589
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:32,250
600 $700 a year. Yeah, you can
get like just one module. Okay,

1590
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:35,160
so then it's $300 a year you
don't own anything. You're on

1591
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,280
the hook. Like if you have a bad
month and you can't you can't

1592
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:43,740
you know with the 20 bucks for
health care. Then you know, they

1593
01:37:43,740 --> 01:37:44,070
cut you

1594
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:47,460
off. Software doesn't work.

1595
01:37:48,030 --> 01:37:51,540
No, you're done. You're done.
Scrounger

1596
01:37:51,810 --> 01:37:58,410
not an artist. Go get so the
GIMP needs help. And

1597
01:37:58,469 --> 01:38:01,229
he wants you to put yourself in
the situation. You pay your pay,

1598
01:38:01,229 --> 01:38:03,179
you can't do it anymore. You go
to the GIMP and they get

1599
01:38:03,179 --> 01:38:05,789
yourself back on your feet. Then
you go back what is

1600
01:38:05,820 --> 01:38:08,940
what are you missing from the
GIMP? But what are you missing

1601
01:38:08,940 --> 01:38:16,440
from the GIMP? Everything all
right, you're not being serious

1602
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:19,470
with me. All right, that's fine.
That's fine. You just you just

1603
01:38:19,470 --> 01:38:21,600
talking you haven't looked at
the GIMP in years.

1604
01:38:21,870 --> 01:38:25,170
I haven't. I'll go look at the
GIMP again and then you want me

1605
01:38:25,170 --> 01:38:27,360
just want me to do here's we're
gonna do just to be just to

1606
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:32,820
assuage your, your, your
doubting me. I'm gonna go play

1607
01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:34,680
with the GIMP. I'm gonna write a
review of it. I'm gonna write a

1608
01:38:35,130 --> 01:38:38,880
regular review about this is a
great idea. Colin, what a great

1609
01:38:38,940 --> 01:38:39,960
or not great?

1610
01:38:40,710 --> 01:38:44,550
No, you can be honest. But you
should. It's about time someone

1611
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:47,820
did an honest review of the
GIMP. And if it sucks,

1612
01:38:48,210 --> 01:38:50,640
and I since I do have Photoshop
experience, I can make

1613
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,310
comparisons say well, this is
better than Photoshop. This is

1614
01:38:53,310 --> 01:38:56,220
not as good. This is better.
Good. And I can do the whole

1615
01:38:56,220 --> 01:38:59,430
thing and then I can make my you
know, that'll be it. I'm done.

1616
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,720
And then I'll never complain
again. Okay, ever. That's a

1617
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:09,150
deal. interesting news came out
about who am I? Who am I

1618
01:39:09,150 --> 01:39:14,910
Aberdeen? Did you see this
buddy? Turns out during her

1619
01:39:14,910 --> 01:39:22,410
entire time, in the as Hillary's
body man, their words, not mine.

1620
01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:26,700
She was also moonlighting as a
consultant.

1621
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:31,050
Oh, really? Yes. For Nice.

1622
01:39:31,290 --> 01:39:38,100
Yeah. According to the Times.
Uma Abbott didn't work for

1623
01:39:38,130 --> 01:39:44,760
Teneo. Today it was a strategic
consulting firm founded by a co

1624
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:49,050
founder I think by Doug ban
former adviser to Bill Clinton.

1625
01:39:49,110 --> 01:39:53,220
Oh, isn't that convenient? And
the if you read their their

1626
01:39:53,250 --> 01:39:58,560
about page the firm has spelled
Teneo Tango echo, November echo

1627
01:39:58,590 --> 01:40:03,090
Oscar. The firm has advised
corporate clients like Coca Cola

1628
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:04,320
and MF Global.

1629
01:40:07,980 --> 01:40:11,850
So she was working, just like,
oh, yeah, just working

1630
01:40:11,850 --> 01:40:15,450
there. part time while she was
with the most powerful woman in

1631
01:40:15,450 --> 01:40:20,130
the universe. Julie does not
seem like

1632
01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:23,190
what are they close? Like it's
illegal to be honest about it.

1633
01:40:24,029 --> 01:40:27,179
Well, this, of course, the
stories now pop up, because

1634
01:40:27,179 --> 01:40:29,699
everyone knows that, you know,
Hillary is the next President of

1635
01:40:29,699 --> 01:40:32,909
the United States. And so of
course, this is, it's not like

1636
01:40:32,909 --> 01:40:36,509
this is unknown. This is this is
the thing that bothers me about

1637
01:40:36,509 --> 01:40:40,559
it's like this IRS thing as
well. This has been going on for

1638
01:40:40,559 --> 01:40:44,939
years. And many, many people
have complained. And

1639
01:40:44,969 --> 01:40:48,089
specifically people have
complained about the IRS

1640
01:40:48,089 --> 01:40:51,359
targeting Tea Party patriot
groups with that in their name,

1641
01:40:51,359 --> 01:40:55,289
which is like one or two, mom
and pops, you actually want to

1642
01:40:55,289 --> 01:40:56,159
change the country.

1643
01:40:57,390 --> 01:41:00,030
And well, while you're
discussing, I do have a clip

1644
01:41:00,090 --> 01:41:03,990
while I was leaning into a clip,
but okay, but I Okay, go. You

1645
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:07,800
probably have a better clip. By
the way before you go to the IRS

1646
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:11,700
story. I want to say some but to
nail Yes, I'm looking at it is

1647
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,360
it's a it's a huge company. It's
been they have Teneo capital

1648
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,920
Teneo restructuring, Teneo
strategy and Teneo intelligence,

1649
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,220
they actually had its own
intelligence gathering, which

1650
01:41:23,250 --> 01:41:25,710
works closely with the State
Department, obviously, and they

1651
01:41:25,710 --> 01:41:29,610
have all kinds of politics and
policy security. Yeah,

1652
01:41:29,610 --> 01:41:34,350
this was this, of course, was
not a story ever. Now. But it's

1653
01:41:34,380 --> 01:41:38,100
obvious that it's known. This is
and this I think, is the main

1654
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:42,870
thing that people are catching
on to is that none of the media

1655
01:41:43,290 --> 01:41:47,310
and I'm looking at you New York
Times in particular, those guys

1656
01:41:47,310 --> 01:41:51,930
like wow, and by the way, you've
got the former BBC head who you

1657
01:41:51,930 --> 01:41:57,870
know, helped cover up BBC pedo
gate. Now running the show now,

1658
01:41:58,890 --> 01:42:01,410
and you should see it was
running News New is like the

1659
01:42:01,410 --> 01:42:04,680
like the Rothschilds have now
joined the news night team over

1660
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,710
there in the BBC, that whole
thing, it's, it's just

1661
01:42:07,710 --> 01:42:11,010
hilarious, how the links get
their hands all over.

1662
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,580
It's amazing and listen to this.
And you know, the money comes in

1663
01:42:14,580 --> 01:42:17,310
from every which way, especially
the Defense Department money,

1664
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:22,050
which has never been audited.
Teneo was founded in 2011 by

1665
01:42:22,050 --> 01:42:25,980
three partners, Declan Kelly,
former US Special Envoy to

1666
01:42:25,980 --> 01:42:29,640
Northern Ireland, US CEO of
financial dynamics and EVP and

1667
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:34,050
CIO of FTI, consulting, Doug, a
band counselor to President

1668
01:42:34,050 --> 01:42:35,610
William Jefferson Clinton.

1669
01:42:35,670 --> 01:42:36,360
That's what I just said

1670
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:40,200
he co founded the company. Yeah.
And Paul Kerry, former senior

1671
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,960
managing that another FTA FTI
consulting, it's got something

1672
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,600
to do with this. I'll look at
that. I hadn't looked

1673
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,310
at that. Now. So when you when
you said earlier, John, when

1674
01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:53,160
you're thinking like, I feel I
feel it just something's wrong,

1675
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:56,760
I can feel it. That's because
your body is inherently smarter

1676
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:01,050
than your brain. Or where it's a
no sooner for some reason, the

1677
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,820
our brains have been trained to
be stupid. So I got a couple

1678
01:43:05,820 --> 01:43:08,400
clips here regarding this IRS
thing, which is just very

1679
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,910
interesting, because it kind of
flows along these same lines of

1680
01:43:12,090 --> 01:43:15,210
really there was gambling going
on there. Like we didn't know

1681
01:43:15,210 --> 01:43:18,390
that that IRS or a bunch of
armed hoods.

1682
01:43:18,540 --> 01:43:22,740
Are you telling me that if you
leave milk out it goes sour?

1683
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:29,400
So Charles Krauthammer, who I
like, I don't doesn't seem to

1684
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,990
have a show. He's just he's on
shows. So he's identifying what

1685
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:38,430
we said immediately. He's like,
hold on a second. This

1686
01:43:38,580 --> 01:43:43,470
information about the IRS was
not discovered by accident. It

1687
01:43:43,470 --> 01:43:48,000
was set up specifically on a
call with a shield to ask the

1688
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:52,200
question to get this into light.
Which leads me to believe as I

1689
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:56,190
prophesized on the previous
episode, that this is meant to

1690
01:43:56,220 --> 01:43:58,500
bring down the grand old party,

1691
01:43:58,830 --> 01:44:03,690
bit of news that we got how this
was released by the IRS. This is

1692
01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:07,170
peculiar, and I'm not even sure
I can understand why. But they

1693
01:44:07,170 --> 01:44:10,740
decide knowing the IG report
will come out this week. They

1694
01:44:10,740 --> 01:44:15,090
decided a week ago to plant a
question in a closed the meeting

1695
01:44:15,090 --> 01:44:21,300
of the ABA. So that Lois Lerner
answers it and get gives an

1696
01:44:21,300 --> 01:44:25,110
answer, assuming I think that is
going to leak out. But I'm not

1697
01:44:25,110 --> 01:44:28,590
even sure I understand the logic
of doing that. Why not just

1698
01:44:28,590 --> 01:44:31,650
issue a press release, say it
but to do it in a sort of

1699
01:44:31,650 --> 01:44:36,510
ridiculously devious way shows
you an institution that is sort

1700
01:44:36,510 --> 01:44:40,860
of given intrinsically, to being
untruthful and deceptive. See,

1701
01:44:40,860 --> 01:44:43,140
that's where he goes off the
rails because I don't think

1702
01:44:43,140 --> 01:44:46,620
that's what's going on here.
It's no one is that dumb?

1703
01:44:46,740 --> 01:44:53,970
Certainly not the IRS by the
way. In the chat room, no corn

1704
01:44:53,970 --> 01:44:57,150
syrup says Teneo is Atlas
McDowell. I thought that was

1705
01:44:57,150 --> 01:44:59,940
pretty good. You remember Atlas
McDowell.

1706
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,770
How long was your clip?

1707
01:45:02,939 --> 01:45:12,809
From Rubicon? Yes. So here is
so. So of course, I believe that

1708
01:45:13,229 --> 01:45:15,809
that this was brought out
because it will turn out that it

1709
01:45:15,809 --> 01:45:21,539
was indeed the Republican Party
leadership who wanted the True

1710
01:45:21,539 --> 01:45:26,609
Tea Party. The true patriots
real people who really were

1711
01:45:26,609 --> 01:45:30,719
angry and wanted some change and
they were angry at all political

1712
01:45:30,719 --> 01:45:34,409
parties. That that's why these
small little mom and pops were

1713
01:45:34,409 --> 01:45:39,179
targeted, but the calls came
from the Republican Party. And I

1714
01:45:39,179 --> 01:45:43,469
think my the prophecy is coming
true as the leadership of the

1715
01:45:43,469 --> 01:45:45,839
GOP is seems to be a bit
worried.

1716
01:45:46,110 --> 01:45:48,660
Republicans on Capitol Hill
there's pursuing several

1717
01:45:48,660 --> 01:45:51,570
investigations right now you're
here you're even hearing talk of

1718
01:45:51,570 --> 01:45:54,690
impeachment from some of them
are some of their leaders

1719
01:45:54,690 --> 01:45:57,540
worried that some of the
Republicans may be overplaying

1720
01:45:57,540 --> 01:45:58,050
their hand?

1721
01:45:58,799 --> 01:46:01,409
There's real concern about this.
You hear people saying some

1722
01:46:01,409 --> 01:46:04,799
Republicans on the right saying
This is worse than Watergate

1723
01:46:04,799 --> 01:46:07,709
worse than Iran Contra talking
about impeachment? Well,

1724
01:46:07,709 --> 01:46:10,409
Republican leaders are worried
that could go way too far. In

1725
01:46:10,409 --> 01:46:12,749
fact, you saw the chairman of
the Republican Party writes

1726
01:46:12,749 --> 01:46:16,739
previous today in Politico
telling fellow Republicans look,

1727
01:46:16,739 --> 01:46:19,709
you don't talk about impeachment
until you have the evidence.

1728
01:46:19,740 --> 01:46:24,210
Well, isn't that interesting?
Isn't that interesting that Mr.

1729
01:46:24,210 --> 01:46:27,900
Priebus is a little worried
about what's happening? Did you

1730
01:46:27,900 --> 01:46:34,500
see any of the C span mini
series with Miller, the outgoing

1731
01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:36,720
head of the of the IRS?

1732
01:46:36,990 --> 01:46:41,370
Yeah, I have one clip that I
thought was interesting. For two

1733
01:46:41,370 --> 01:46:45,390
reasons. This is the one with
what's his name? I grew flexes

1734
01:46:45,390 --> 01:46:54,870
name. Now, is it Kelly, I think
his name is Kelly, Mike Kelly,

1735
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:58,860
the Republic Kelly go off on the
guys. But what was interesting,

1736
01:46:58,860 --> 01:47:04,740
besides the rant, was the huge
round of applause he got from

1737
01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:09,240
the gallery. So your clip is
two, we have the same clip. So

1738
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:10,950
I'm going to play yours because
yours is shorter.

1739
01:47:11,130 --> 01:47:14,130
But this is not going to go
away. This is a Pandora's box

1740
01:47:14,250 --> 01:47:16,260
that has been opened, I don't
think get the lid back on it.

1741
01:47:16,590 --> 01:47:19,260
And I don't believe that the
White House just found out about

1742
01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:22,800
this in the news report. Doesn't
happen to grab a TV shot. We're

1743
01:47:23,070 --> 01:47:26,400
just read Mr. George's report
and said, you know why we

1744
01:47:27,150 --> 01:47:30,840
anybody heard about this before?
I'm just getting a first look at

1745
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,730
this. Shouldn't somebody be
responsible? But I'm thinking

1746
01:47:32,730 --> 01:47:34,980
maybe the executive bots may
Treasury falls in there. I'm not

1747
01:47:34,980 --> 01:47:38,250
sure that we understand how that
that organizational chart works.

1748
01:47:38,250 --> 01:47:43,710
But I am really concerned about
I gotta tell you, where you're

1749
01:47:43,710 --> 01:47:49,110
sitting, you should be outraged.
But you're not. The American

1750
01:47:49,110 --> 01:47:52,920
people should be outraged. And
they are. And this committee,

1751
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,010
this has nothing to do with
political parties. This has to

1752
01:47:56,010 --> 01:48:00,090
do with highly targeted groups.
This reconfirms everything that

1753
01:48:00,090 --> 01:48:05,340
the American public believes
this is a huge blow to the faith

1754
01:48:05,340 --> 01:48:08,040
and trust the American people
have in their government. Is

1755
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:12,150
there any limit to the scope of
where you folks can go? Is there

1756
01:48:12,150 --> 01:48:14,790
anything at all? Is there any
way that we could ask you? Is

1757
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:16,500
there any question that you
shouldn't have asked my

1758
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:19,410
goodness? How much money do you
have in your wallet? Who do you

1759
01:48:19,410 --> 01:48:23,040
get emails from? Who signed you
put up in your front yard? This

1760
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:28,080
is a tax question. You don't
think it's intimidating. It's

1761
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,230
just hell intimidating. And I
don't know that I got any

1762
01:48:31,230 --> 01:48:34,950
answers from you today. And I
don't know that what Mr. Georgia

1763
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:37,170
said is great work. But you know
what, there's a heck of a lot

1764
01:48:37,170 --> 01:48:39,990
more that has to come out in
this in anybody to sit here

1765
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:44,670
today. And listen to what you
have to say I am more concerned

1766
01:48:44,670 --> 01:48:48,870
today than I was before. And the
fact that you all can do just

1767
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:51,060
about anything you want to
anybody, you know, you can put

1768
01:48:51,060 --> 01:48:55,200
anybody out of business that you
want, anytime you want. And I

1769
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,270
gotta tell you, you talked about
you're a horribly run.

1770
01:48:58,290 --> 01:49:02,970
Organization. If you're on the
other side of the fence, you're

1771
01:49:02,970 --> 01:49:06,510
not given that excuse. When the
IRS comes into you're not

1772
01:49:06,510 --> 01:49:08,910
allowed to be shot or you're not
allowed to be run horribly.

1773
01:49:08,970 --> 01:49:11,250
You're not allowed to make
mistakes. You're not allowed to

1774
01:49:11,250 --> 01:49:14,550
do one damn thing that doesn't
come in compliance. If you do,

1775
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,700
you're held responsible right
then I just think the American

1776
01:49:17,700 --> 01:49:19,980
people have seen what's going on
right now in their government.

1777
01:49:19,980 --> 01:49:22,920
This is absolutely an overreach
and this is an outrage for all

1778
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:29,070
America. I yield back. All
right. Mr. Griffin is recognized

1779
01:49:29,070 --> 01:49:29,670
for five minutes.

1780
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:34,350
Hang a minute as bowls. You know
what I think you know, as I was

1781
01:49:34,350 --> 01:49:37,980
listening to that, I'm thinking
that the this they these guys

1782
01:49:37,980 --> 01:49:43,680
have to do this. They have to
make the IRS just like they have

1783
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:48,570
to drag them through the mud to
deflect the truth, which I

1784
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:53,280
again, I think is because the
GOP called Congress in general

1785
01:49:53,310 --> 01:49:53,880
called for the

1786
01:49:54,570 --> 01:49:58,500
going on here. We have to always
remember, we we liked the idea

1787
01:49:58,500 --> 01:50:02,520
of making the IRS of The
boogeyman a really bad actor

1788
01:50:02,820 --> 01:50:06,690
because it's it helps scare the
public I mean yeah here are some

1789
01:50:06,690 --> 01:50:10,980
celebrities busted and they make
a big point of ruining his life

1790
01:50:10,980 --> 01:50:14,280
so they can scare everybody and
this is just part of that as far

1791
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,910
as I can tell there's no he
wasn't accomplishing anything by

1792
01:50:17,910 --> 01:50:20,370
berating these these two or
three guys that were just

1793
01:50:20,370 --> 01:50:23,010
standing there going shrugging
their shoulders saying we don't

1794
01:50:23,010 --> 01:50:28,140
ever want to get paid by the
hour yeah you know it's just I

1795
01:50:28,140 --> 01:50:31,050
agree martyred that whole system
right believe even though he

1796
01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:34,050
seemed outraged and they got a
big round of applause, it it

1797
01:50:34,050 --> 01:50:34,860
just makes it worse.

1798
01:50:34,890 --> 01:50:38,730
Everybody likes a common enemy,
that's for sure. But it's not

1799
01:50:38,730 --> 01:50:42,270
going to make it any easier.
This is if anything, the IRS

1800
01:50:42,270 --> 01:50:46,530
will get a huge overhaul to get
new agents new your money, more

1801
01:50:46,530 --> 01:50:50,880
money, new uniforms, guns,
bigger, bigger armbands, it's

1802
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,140
gonna be fantastic.

1803
01:50:52,410 --> 01:50:55,860
I'm going to show my school by
Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all

1804
01:50:55,860 --> 01:50:58,380
the people who could do with us.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

1805
01:51:06,030 --> 01:51:09,060
to have a few people to thank
John Johnson Sir John Johnson

1806
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:14,190
Jr. and Troy New York. $133.33.
Nice his night ringing we'd get

1807
01:51:14,190 --> 01:51:21,930
we're on it. Ryan bird jet and
both l Washington $133.31. And

1808
01:51:21,930 --> 01:51:26,100
he wants some karma for a
fishing boat. Why the hell not?

1809
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:31,050
So I'm thinking you've got
karma. Diem Laurie swim in

1810
01:51:31,050 --> 01:51:34,860
Marysville, Kansas $120.47. We
got her on the list for the

1811
01:51:34,860 --> 01:51:39,930
birthday call outs. Armando
Guerrera in Austin, Texas. That

1812
01:51:39,930 --> 01:51:42,480
is our mailman. Remember the
mailman who showed up when we

1813
01:51:42,480 --> 01:51:46,380
just moved to traverse high tide
out? And he said, and he became

1814
01:51:46,380 --> 01:51:50,190
an Associate Executive Producer
for that show. And he and I did

1815
01:51:50,190 --> 01:51:52,470
see I see him from time to time
of course he's our mailman. He

1816
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:56,190
was our mail carrier, I should
say carrier carrier. And he's

1817
01:51:56,190 --> 01:51:57,720
got the hat he's got the trouble
is the

1818
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,060
word mailman is that some of
these are politically incorrect.

1819
01:52:00,060 --> 01:52:00,150
I

1820
01:52:00,150 --> 01:52:04,020
don't know I I've I hear them
talk about themselves as mail

1821
01:52:04,020 --> 01:52:07,410
carriers. And I think it's
because i don't know i mean i've

1822
01:52:07,410 --> 01:52:08,250
stewardess

1823
01:52:08,730 --> 01:52:11,430
now their flight a test flight
attendant? Yeah, yeah, sir.

1824
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:12,120
Robert, gosh.

1825
01:52:12,420 --> 01:52:13,980
Let me let me read the note.

1826
01:52:14,370 --> 01:52:17,280
Oh, well, we really I really
reading No, yeah, you have a

1827
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,600
bigger note. Okay,

1828
01:52:18,630 --> 01:52:21,600
though. It's true. Yeah. It's
huge. It's so big. But it was

1829
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,510
nice. It was an envelope. And he
delivered it without a stamp. So

1830
01:52:24,510 --> 01:52:26,310
he screwed his employer. Oh,
wait,

1831
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:30,090
no, they have permission to do
that. Or they do. Because I know

1832
01:52:30,090 --> 01:52:32,850
in my mailbox, I get stuff from
the post office commonly and

1833
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:33,540
they can.

1834
01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:36,090
That's a good deal. Maybe I
could say hey, could you hand

1835
01:52:36,090 --> 01:52:38,820
this off to you? I can send
let's try this. Oh, you can save

1836
01:52:38,820 --> 01:52:42,600
all of 50 cents. Let's see if I
can get an envelope to you

1837
01:52:42,630 --> 01:52:46,080
through our underground network
of mail carriers. Without a

1838
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:50,910
stamp. It might be possible.
Adam and John, here's my

1839
01:52:50,910 --> 01:52:55,410
subscription for 2013 Armando
Guerrera. He's our mailman here

1840
01:52:55,410 --> 01:52:58,980
in Austin and he protects us you
know that he's not just a mail

1841
01:52:58,980 --> 01:53:01,230
carrier. He keeps his eye on the
neighborhood.

1842
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,080
Yeah, that's what they're
supposed to. Absolutely. And I

1843
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,470
said Nevada, she said Nevada
debate. Robert Gosh, go and

1844
01:53:07,470 --> 01:53:10,920
Sherwood Park, Alberta 100. Liz
Sherwood Park. I wonder if

1845
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:14,580
that's one of those ritzy
communities under $11.11. I've

1846
01:53:14,580 --> 01:53:17,550
accrued a triple knighthood and
once you crest the Barony of

1847
01:53:17,550 --> 01:53:18,630
Sherwood Park

1848
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:21,000
I think that's available is it
not?

1849
01:53:21,300 --> 01:53:25,140
I believe so. Okay, good work. I
had to put it down on a notebook

1850
01:53:25,140 --> 01:53:28,020
somewhere Give me your module
give him an LG why hot milk

1851
01:53:28,020 --> 01:53:28,500
karma.

1852
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:31,530
I thought we weren't doing
those.

1853
01:53:31,740 --> 01:53:33,990
We aren't for guy who just
became a baron.

1854
01:53:36,210 --> 01:53:46,410
Alright, milk. It's not an easy
one hot milk baby. You've got

1855
01:53:46,590 --> 01:53:47,280
karma.

1856
01:53:48,420 --> 01:53:52,740
I just loan Kelly Niagara Falls
Ontario $102.08 Anonymous in

1857
01:53:52,740 --> 01:53:57,690
Plano, Texas. I have to read
this note. JC D fan number one.

1858
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,360
Jeffrey Jackson Arlington,
Massachusetts 100 Life is great.

1859
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,990
You guys are part of it. Thanks.
Brian Brown orange California

1860
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:18,810
$100. I have to say this but
yes, given some karma he needs

1861
01:54:18,810 --> 01:54:19,410
to get laid he

1862
01:54:19,410 --> 01:54:26,550
wants to go eat this colitas
karma you've got karma.

1863
01:54:28,530 --> 01:54:31,980
Joan data Frey in Morgantown,
West Virginia. Your old hometown

1864
01:54:31,980 --> 01:54:36,300
100 All she did send us a long
note which we've read. I have to

1865
01:54:36,300 --> 01:54:38,220
go look it up and maybe there's
something important for the

1866
01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:41,580
audience at large. Sir John
Smith, St. Petersburg, Florida.

1867
01:54:41,580 --> 01:54:49,320
$100. Chris Row row row whack.
rolled our O ALD teens doll

1868
01:54:49,950 --> 01:54:50,910
gonna get this this

1869
01:54:50,910 --> 01:54:54,300
John Stott so that is sweetened.
I believe Christian stop. Is

1870
01:54:54,300 --> 01:55:01,380
that not Sweden? Denmark.
Cristian, stop. I'm pretty sure

1871
01:55:01,380 --> 01:55:02,220
that switchin

1872
01:55:02,220 --> 01:55:03,600
sand it looks like

1873
01:55:06,180 --> 01:55:10,200
Sweden, right. Hey, guy. Hi,
Sweden. I got it.

1874
01:55:12,300 --> 01:55:17,070
He says he's still a Boehner.
Robert Hegedus in Spring, Texas,

1875
01:55:17,070 --> 01:55:17,760
I'm telling you a big

1876
01:55:18,270 --> 01:55:21,450
tear. We're gonna do a big Texas
then we got to do it in

1877
01:55:22,110 --> 01:55:24,000
Fort Worth where all the money
in Marfa.

1878
01:55:24,030 --> 01:55:25,080
No dude in Marfa.

1879
01:55:25,470 --> 01:55:26,220
Let's Marfa.

1880
01:55:26,370 --> 01:55:31,590
Oh my friend. You do you not
know of Marfa? No, no, look it

1881
01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:32,430
up on your own time.

1882
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:44,220
Sir Paul Boyer Howell michigan
9999. And Kailyn restore. In

1883
01:55:44,220 --> 01:55:50,430
Northville, Michigan nein, nein,
nein, nein. And then Ronald,

1884
01:55:50,490 --> 01:55:54,390
Donald ripple and Dresden, Ohio.
8888.

1885
01:55:54,750 --> 01:55:58,110
Wow, that's one of those. One of
those ham numbers.

1886
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:04,530
Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia
Beach, Virginia, I would begin

1887
01:56:04,530 --> 01:56:06,240
6969

1888
01:56:06,870 --> 01:56:10,920
That would be that's not just
Thomas Nussbaum is a bunch of

1889
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:17,640
them. No. Nussbaum was like a
super double, triple nine. It's

1890
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:18,690
got to be these are named

1891
01:56:18,690 --> 01:56:23,550
places. Him and Nicola both St.
St. St. Nicole now. Yeah.

1892
01:56:24,270 --> 01:56:27,030
Michael stodgy. stodg. Do

1893
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:28,530
our studies you are

1894
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:33,900
in Sierra Vista at Arizona.
Blake. Blake just plain old

1895
01:56:33,900 --> 01:56:37,110
Blake in Norwalk, Connecticut.
Sir Gordon Walton in Austin. Oh,

1896
01:56:37,110 --> 01:56:41,370
Austin, Texas. As far as
knighthood for son, synonymous

1897
01:56:41,370 --> 01:56:41,550
he.

1898
01:56:42,269 --> 01:56:45,809
He took us to our first barbecue
here in great, great test.

1899
01:56:46,860 --> 01:56:49,530
Baron Sam Lewin.

1900
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:56,580
No, no. By the way, if you if
you have an extra title, since

1901
01:56:56,580 --> 01:57:01,350
apparently the software is not
in place. Please sign your pay

1902
01:57:01,350 --> 01:57:04,500
pal with your title so we know
what to call you. Yeah, because

1903
01:57:04,500 --> 01:57:08,430
we know we're just like winging
it at this. You need to? Yeah,

1904
01:57:08,430 --> 01:57:10,530
you need to put your credentials
in otherwise we just don't know

1905
01:57:10,530 --> 01:57:11,760
what to call you anymore. 69

1906
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:17,610
Six Nynke Quang Lu read this
one. Santa Ana, California John,

1907
01:57:17,610 --> 01:57:19,740
I recently discovered your show
I can't get enough of it. I've

1908
01:57:19,740 --> 01:57:21,990
been downloading and listening
to your old shows but saddened

1909
01:57:21,990 --> 01:57:26,580
to learn I tune does carry shows
older than does not I think

1910
01:57:26,610 --> 01:57:29,070
yeah, I think he says he says
does but I think it means does

1911
01:57:29,070 --> 01:57:35,250
not carry shows older than
October 2012. I think. No agenda

1912
01:57:35,250 --> 01:57:37,320
nation and clicking on the
archives button if you want to

1913
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,510
listen to the old ones. Yeah, we
got every single one that's

1914
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:42,060
always mentioned the newsletter
but some people don't get the

1915
01:57:42,060 --> 01:57:43,680
newsletter. Can I get some
karma?

1916
01:57:44,219 --> 01:57:45,929
Yes. Welcome to the family.

1917
01:57:47,130 --> 01:57:49,620
You've got class 6969

1918
01:57:51,060 --> 01:57:51,990
People are getting

1919
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:57,930
Mira ring Ganesan in Hampton
Middlesex sweater send a picture

1920
01:58:00,420 --> 01:58:05,910
699 And then v v Vello. in
Eindhoven. Not sure what that

1921
01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:12,270
means. But 6969 vs. Simon Bruce
Cassidy in Drammen. Drawn ramen,

1922
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:13,470
ramen.

1923
01:58:14,970 --> 01:58:18,180
You know, this is happening. I
see something. So I'm gonna say

1924
01:58:18,180 --> 01:58:22,500
something. The Germans are
rising.

1925
01:58:23,190 --> 01:58:25,920
I think there's something going
on because I was chatting with

1926
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:30,150
somebody from Germany recently.
And they said that this screwed

1927
01:58:30,150 --> 01:58:33,120
up is there's just they're not
talking about but they're just

1928
01:58:33,150 --> 01:58:34,860
there's a bad a shape as France.

1929
01:58:35,580 --> 01:58:41,790
Oh, it's horrible. But they have
this is the the new Germans who

1930
01:58:41,790 --> 01:58:46,680
I've had the pleasure of working
with about seven or eight years

1931
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,530
ago, we moved thinking about
setting up an office in Berlin.

1932
01:58:50,130 --> 01:58:55,590
And so I spent some quite a lot
of time in the area and the soul

1933
01:58:55,590 --> 01:58:59,820
incredibly nice and helpful and
smart. And, of course, you know,

1934
01:58:59,820 --> 01:59:01,830
there's a little bit of
overcompensation for you know

1935
01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:06,420
that whole bike thing back in
the Second World War II ended

1936
01:59:06,420 --> 01:59:10,620
you think maybe there's a little
bit of that, but not really

1937
01:59:10,620 --> 01:59:14,850
anymore. It's like all cool and
most kids like F word I don't

1938
01:59:14,850 --> 01:59:18,330
remember I wasn't around it's
like, and they're great and they

1939
01:59:18,330 --> 01:59:23,460
are extremely technically
competent and advanced in their

1940
01:59:23,460 --> 01:59:27,390
thinking of solving problems and
making cool shit like honestly,

1941
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:32,760
that I've been very impressed.
And they're not falling for this

1942
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:38,130
dictatorship. Bullcrap this
Merkel isolation and worse the

1943
01:59:38,490 --> 01:59:43,890
the Bundesbank that I think
they're seeing through it, and

1944
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,460
they're like, hey, you know,
that was our grandparents

1945
01:59:47,460 --> 01:59:50,820
problem. We don't want that crap
anymore. We really are trying to

1946
01:59:50,820 --> 01:59:54,540
do something different here. So
I feel him I want I mean, you

1947
01:59:54,540 --> 01:59:56,970
feel that too, right? There's
like there's something there's a

1948
01:59:56,970 --> 01:59:57,630
bonus.

1949
01:59:59,580 --> 02:00:02,340
There, John. They're best have
to you know this is why I think

1950
02:00:02,340 --> 02:00:04,890
we're again with the beginning
of the show I even though it was

1951
02:00:05,430 --> 02:00:09,270
I picked up on it you found it
which is that this real

1952
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:12,990
legislation about just letting
the military come in. Yeah. And

1953
02:00:12,990 --> 02:00:17,100
and quell the riots. You don't
do that unless you're expecting

1954
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:17,760
riots.

1955
02:00:17,790 --> 02:00:19,050
Yeah. Hi everybody

1956
02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:28,080
you're in Pittsburgh in New York
on Darrien

1957
02:00:28,140 --> 02:00:31,770
Oh, God used to be a lot better
Codeacademy on the line.

1958
02:00:31,950 --> 02:00:34,710
Oh yeah, I get that. Karma.
Shout out for you and Mickey

1959
02:00:34,740 --> 02:00:39,630
no for Mary Romine Mickey. But
Me me me. Me and

1960
02:00:39,630 --> 02:00:42,600
Mickey. Oh, no, that's nice.
Give him a Karma shout out then.

1961
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:43,620
I thought I would

1962
02:00:43,620 --> 02:00:48,300
do that. By the way. You've got
karma that actually ended on

1963
02:00:48,630 --> 02:00:52,440
6969 Good run

1964
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:55,080
good run the donation level that
will not die.

1965
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:59,730
No, it will Marie Robin Ottawa
and Terrell putting it in a red

1966
02:00:59,730 --> 02:01:05,790
book. 5555 He needs a Karma
shadow for his mom who's getting

1967
02:01:05,790 --> 02:01:09,510
over leukemia. Oh no, he doesn't
get any with the effects of

1968
02:01:09,510 --> 02:01:10,260
chemo.

1969
02:01:10,380 --> 02:01:13,860
Oh, no. He needs something else.
Hold on. We have what he needs.

1970
02:01:14,370 --> 02:01:23,820
All right. Play this for your
mom. You've got karma. For

1971
02:01:23,820 --> 02:01:25,290
Cancer karma. Come on.

1972
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:30,750
Paul Hargett and Hayes Kansas
5510 Double that goes on the 11

1973
02:01:32,190 --> 02:01:37,680
Paul Crow, Hamilton Ohio who is
on the dime Katherine Lee and

1974
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:39,000
she's in she's in

1975
02:01:39,540 --> 02:01:43,740
I believe Malaysia looks like I
thought she was Iran. No, I

1976
02:01:43,740 --> 02:01:48,090
think she's Malaysia okay. 55 w
goes on which is good. We need

1977
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,570
do they speak English in
Singapore? They speak English in

1978
02:01:51,570 --> 02:01:54,360
Malaysia they speak English and
not so much in Indonesia but

1979
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:57,240
they do we need more listeners
in those parts of the world.

1980
02:01:57,269 --> 02:02:00,569
Yeah with with information about
what's happening. Yes.

1981
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,970
Sam Sloan and LaBelle,
Pennsylvania double nickels on

1982
02:02:02,970 --> 02:02:06,210
the dime Harry Biglan Kew
Gardens New York double nickels.

1983
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:09,210
That's a hank in Queens. There
is the credit

1984
02:02:09,509 --> 02:02:16,079
bank in Queens bank in Queens
Hank in Queens. Anthony Gabelli

1985
02:02:16,079 --> 02:02:20,129
in Bismarck, North Dakota
Theodore Hosemann in San Jose.

1986
02:02:21,570 --> 02:02:25,140
I would say horsemen but I could
be wrong Hoffman. Yeah,

1987
02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:26,700
like it would be hostile. And
you're right.

1988
02:02:27,599 --> 02:02:30,929
Actually, it doesn't make fun
unlike the pre donors before me.

1989
02:02:30,959 --> 02:02:35,309
I was thinking about donating
and then I did that's right all

1990
02:02:35,309 --> 02:02:39,719
like the other like 99% 99% of
the people listening to the

1991
02:02:39,719 --> 02:02:43,499
show. You're not douchebags
you're just pre donors.

1992
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:47,880
Nate Wilson in Charleston, South
Carolina gorgeous town double

1993
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:49,980
nickels on the dime the bat
signal was heard from the

1994
02:02:49,980 --> 02:02:52,950
newsletter. Double nickels on
the dime from one of the Minute

1995
02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:53,250
Man.

1996
02:02:53,519 --> 02:02:54,749
Thank you. Ken

1997
02:02:55,890 --> 02:03:02,280
combs in Medford oregon. Old
time listener way back. And then

1998
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:05,280
we have may get a scroll way
down here to get past Damien

1999
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:11,040
curry. Relative MacLeod of
Victoria, Australia.

2000
02:03:11,070 --> 02:03:13,290
Yeah, I don't know. I mean,
probably.

2001
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,940
Well, he's in Australia. Yeah.
So yeah, prisoners. Yeah, makes

2002
02:03:17,940 --> 02:03:18,210
sense.

2003
02:03:20,460 --> 02:03:24,480
I'm just a pre prisoner, John.
That's all I am. I think because

2004
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:28,620
it's funny cuz he sent the note
and it was a very long note. And

2005
02:03:28,620 --> 02:03:34,320
a complimentary note, I would
say. But, you know, you'd expect

2006
02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:36,900
it you know, like the obvious
like, you know, hey, by the way,

2007
02:03:36,900 --> 02:03:39,510
dude, like crew name or
something? No, none of that. I

2008
02:03:39,510 --> 02:03:42,300
don't know. So anyway, thank you
so much.

2009
02:03:42,870 --> 02:03:47,400
In Los Angeles, California. 55
bucks, Vaughn glitch. Salem,

2010
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:52,860
Oregon. No, el Vincente Bay in
landing jersey. It's probably

2011
02:03:52,860 --> 02:03:57,540
been senti then did I say
Vincente? Vincent de. Okay.

2012
02:03:57,540 --> 02:03:58,470
Vincent jersey.

2013
02:03:58,470 --> 02:04:01,590
Landing New Jersey's no Vincent
de Cannes with it.

2014
02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:07,950
Tristan Mason in Auckland. 5432.
We have him on the birthday

2015
02:04:07,950 --> 02:04:08,310
list. I

2016
02:04:08,340 --> 02:04:11,880
don't know. I can see that.
He's, I love having to do all

2017
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:14,940
this double work. Yes. He's
definitely on the list, though.

2018
02:04:14,940 --> 02:04:15,180
Is that

2019
02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:18,450
too much work for you to do
that. Oh, let me think. William

2020
02:04:18,450 --> 02:04:25,200
smock is San Diego, California.
If the 389 Follow me, he says

2021
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:29,280
haven't used Google since being
started and never missed it.

2022
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:35,190
I just saw that. Yahoo has
offered $1.1 billion for Tumblr.

2023
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:37,740
Yeah, yeah, well, that's

2024
02:04:37,740 --> 02:04:39,840
gonna work that's that's gonna
suck.

2025
02:04:41,490 --> 02:04:43,320
Yeah, goodbye, Tumblr.

2026
02:04:43,349 --> 02:04:48,449
Yeah. Nice knowing yeah. Time to
get the sideboob pictures off.

2027
02:04:50,070 --> 02:04:55,530
Jeffrey girl I can Alamo
California. 5150 Gibson 5150 We

2028
02:04:55,530 --> 02:04:59,130
got some karma coming up for
you. Jeffrey Keith Gibson holy

2029
02:04:59,130 --> 02:05:04,320
springs. Holly Springs, North
Carolina 5150 And then $50 from

2030
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,090
Norman Laureen and Edmonton.

2031
02:05:06,300 --> 02:05:10,110
Keith Keith came in twice. So he
did nice. It'd be

2032
02:05:10,110 --> 02:05:14,070
a mistake. Richard Chow in
Fullerton.

2033
02:05:14,250 --> 02:05:17,610
Is that like one of those
monopoly cards where? Where is

2034
02:05:17,610 --> 02:05:20,220
it Keith Gibson has made a
mistake in your advantage.

2035
02:05:21,300 --> 02:05:25,350
A berry Kroger in Greeley
Colorado, Adam Willis in

2036
02:05:25,350 --> 02:05:29,580
Arlington, Virginia Daniel Sainz
sens are Sainz is is the guy who

2037
02:05:29,580 --> 02:05:35,340
did the early porn for the first
Macintosh. Very famous coder if

2038
02:05:35,340 --> 02:05:41,580
true. And essays look him up.
Edward and P McNamara of

2039
02:05:41,610 --> 02:05:48,900
Manhattan, Kansas, Tim Hazel, in
Hanford. And finally, as I

2040
02:05:48,900 --> 02:05:56,430
scroll scroll, Sammy is a hobby
in Vancouver, Brian Presley and

2041
02:05:56,430 --> 02:06:02,490
Alexandria AC Gan in Mineola,
Texas, Andrew Harrison and

2042
02:06:02,490 --> 02:06:06,060
Gravenhurst Ontario Michael
gates in Colorado Springs, Simon

2043
02:06:06,060 --> 02:06:11,430
horn in Queensland, and that'll
close our segment of

2044
02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:16,350
contributors and producers for
show 514 And we do want to throw

2045
02:06:16,350 --> 02:06:18,750
an extra karma out there for
some people that want some job

2046
02:06:18,750 --> 02:06:23,070
karma and that you've got karma

2047
02:06:25,260 --> 02:06:28,170
I'm not seeing your Daniel Sainz

2048
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:35,310
scenes. SAE NZ he used to he was
very famous for doing some some

2049
02:06:35,550 --> 02:06:39,840
mood stuff with the early
Macintosh. The old fashioned

2050
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:40,950
clunker the little bitty one.

2051
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:43,650
Do you mean like Leisure Suit
Larry?

2052
02:06:44,340 --> 02:06:47,430
No, mate. No, I don't think it
was that I don't know. I will

2053
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:48,930
just the name rings a bell.

2054
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:54,750
Do you remember that game? Yeah.
The worst? I never you never

2055
02:06:54,750 --> 02:07:00,360
work. Like I did everything.
Next level, something's wrong.

2056
02:07:03,270 --> 02:07:05,790
Thank you very much. You did
hear the bad signal. This is

2057
02:07:05,790 --> 02:07:08,370
what we need. This is what makes
me feel good. This makes me feel

2058
02:07:08,370 --> 02:07:12,870
good about getting up and, and,
and being a guardian of reality.

2059
02:07:13,500 --> 02:07:15,420
I feel good. I feel really
really good. Let's keep this

2060
02:07:15,420 --> 02:07:17,730
going. Thank you so much.
Appreciate it. And of course we

2061
02:07:17,730 --> 02:07:20,040
do have another show coming up
on Thursday which means four

2062
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:24,780
days of well whatever we have to
do to break through the

2063
02:07:24,810 --> 02:07:28,530
bullcrap. And actually give you
some little tidbits of

2064
02:07:28,530 --> 02:07:31,770
information that might be useful
such as protecting your kids and

2065
02:07:31,770 --> 02:07:35,160
your grandkids future and maybe
your very own future because we

2066
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:38,880
got 17 year olds listening to
the show, get in get the GIMP

2067
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:43,890
first of all get the GIMP and
get get the GIMP and get into

2068
02:07:44,550 --> 02:07:47,970
the 3d modeling and the 3d
printing and start some

2069
02:07:47,970 --> 02:07:50,640
hackerspaces because the
government is coming for you

2070
02:07:50,670 --> 02:07:55,530
otherwise, this is the we had
this is this is the future. You

2071
02:07:55,530 --> 02:08:00,750
are tomorrow's farmers to
vorak.org/and A

2072
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:11,820
and we say happy birthday to Sir
swimmer so buddy on the 24th of

2073
02:08:11,820 --> 02:08:17,550
course that comes from Dame
Laurie Mira Ranganathan says

2074
02:08:17,550 --> 02:08:20,820
Happy Birthday to her husband,
Paul celebrated yesterday,

2075
02:08:20,970 --> 02:08:24,960
Tristan Mason turned 48 He turns
48 today, welcome to The Club,

2076
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:28,320
my friend Tristan, and happy
birthday to the one and only

2077
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:32,790
Eric the shill. We love and so
coming to you from all of your

2078
02:08:32,790 --> 02:08:37,980
buddies here at the best podcast
in the universe. Eric sent

2079
02:08:37,980 --> 02:08:44,100
himself a card from the show.
What didn't you use to send out

2080
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:46,860
cards to people sometimes on the
birthday? Yeah, he

2081
02:08:46,860 --> 02:08:49,650
had to set up a system where
everyone who who's been

2082
02:08:49,710 --> 02:08:52,620
recognized so we don't ask
people for their birthdays. But

2083
02:08:52,620 --> 02:08:56,280
if they throw it in, it puts it
into a rotation since that's

2084
02:08:56,280 --> 02:09:00,900
cool. And he's done building his
his house. Yeah, the ground up.

2085
02:09:00,930 --> 02:09:03,180
He sent me the picture. That's
pretty impressive that what he's

2086
02:09:03,180 --> 02:09:03,750
doing there,

2087
02:09:03,780 --> 02:09:04,830
he's doing tulips. I

2088
02:09:04,830 --> 02:09:06,420
know it's like one for each
foot.

2089
02:09:06,690 --> 02:09:08,610
He will never build another
thing again.

2090
02:09:10,260 --> 02:09:14,520
Congratulations, Sir Keith brown
becomes Baronet Keith Brown. And

2091
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:18,450
congratulations, Dame Mary Paul
Stewart. Now Lady Mary Paul

2092
02:09:18,450 --> 02:09:22,410
Stewart. And indeed in 1500
years it will be uncovered and

2093
02:09:22,410 --> 02:09:25,320
she may receive a plaque for her
Dame ship her stewardship as

2094
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:29,370
lady and she will be recognized
as one of the leaders of the

2095
02:09:29,370 --> 02:09:34,500
Free Underground back in the
21st century. And it's truth

2096
02:09:34,500 --> 02:09:37,680
FAK. Fact.

2097
02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:42,390
So I found a very, we talked
about this a little bit at the

2098
02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:47,820
beginning of the show about the
country becoming a dictatorship

2099
02:09:47,820 --> 02:09:53,670
of the executive branch. And I
was I was incensed when I

2100
02:09:53,670 --> 02:09:59,400
listened to Lindsey Graham, in
front of Congress, essentially

2101
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:04,500
selling The out the Congress and
promoting more of the executive

2102
02:10:04,500 --> 02:10:06,900
branch bullcrap. I have two
clips. Now tell us again who

2103
02:10:06,900 --> 02:10:09,600
Lindsey Graham is Lindsey
Graham's the douchebag, from

2104
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:14,760
South Carolina Republican is is
very closely allied with

2105
02:10:15,060 --> 02:10:17,610
McCain, he's a Republican, or is
he a Democrat?

2106
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:21,180
He's a Republican. He's very
closely allied with McCain. And

2107
02:10:21,180 --> 02:10:23,730
when you see these deals, you
always have Lindsey Graham

2108
02:10:23,730 --> 02:10:29,100
involved and there are bombs. We
got to bomb these guys. Why

2109
02:10:29,100 --> 02:10:31,080
aren't we in Libya? Let's get
one of

2110
02:10:31,080 --> 02:10:32,940
those kids to print up some
bombs.

2111
02:10:34,650 --> 02:10:38,940
Yeah, all righty. Graham goes
out of his way to essentially

2112
02:10:38,940 --> 02:10:43,740
sell out Congress by giving the
executive branch more power by

2113
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:47,880
by by a bad interpretation. I, I
have two clips I have first him

2114
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:52,200
and then Angus King, an
independent from Maine going off

2115
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:55,170
on pretty much what Lindsey
Graham said, even though he

2116
02:10:55,170 --> 02:10:57,750
never pointed a finger at him.
But when you listen to this,

2117
02:10:57,810 --> 02:11:02,040
there's one stop after you play
this clip, because there's a

2118
02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:05,130
number of logical questions I
would have loved to have seen

2119
02:11:05,130 --> 02:11:08,220
one of the in fact, I think
Angus King who came up right

2120
02:11:08,220 --> 02:11:11,040
after Graham could have asked
the question, and I'm going to

2121
02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:16,050
ask it and answer it. But
instead King just goes crazy.

2122
02:11:16,050 --> 02:11:19,530
But Lindsey Graham cells out
Congress, it Do you

2123
02:11:19,530 --> 02:11:23,250
agree with with me the war
against radical Islam or terror,

2124
02:11:23,250 --> 02:11:29,220
whatever description like to
provide will go on after the

2125
02:11:29,220 --> 02:11:30,960
second term or President Obama?

2126
02:11:31,710 --> 02:11:34,230
Senator, in my judgment, this is
going to go on for quite a

2127
02:11:34,230 --> 02:11:36,630
while. And yes, beyond the
second term of

2128
02:11:36,630 --> 02:11:39,240
the President and beyond this
term of Congress.

2129
02:11:40,500 --> 02:11:42,870
Yes, sir. I think it's at least
10 to 20 years.

2130
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:48,750
Point of View, you have all the
authorization and legal

2131
02:11:48,750 --> 02:11:52,650
authorities necessary to conduct
a drone strike against terrorist

2132
02:11:52,650 --> 02:11:56,700
organizations in Yemen without
changing the AUMF. Yes, sir. I

2133
02:11:56,700 --> 02:11:59,400
do believe that. I agree with
that. General. I do, sir.

2134
02:11:59,580 --> 02:12:03,960
General. Do you agree with that?
I do, sir. Okay, could we send

2135
02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:09,120
military members into Yemen, to
strike against one of these

2136
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:13,620
organizations? This president
had that authority to put boots

2137
02:12:13,620 --> 02:12:14,670
on the ground in Yemen?

2138
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:20,130
As I mentioned before, there's
domestic authority and

2139
02:12:20,130 --> 02:12:27,030
international law or authority.
At the moment, the basis for

2140
02:12:27,450 --> 02:12:31,080
putting boots in the ground in
Yemen, we respect the

2141
02:12:31,110 --> 02:12:35,940
sovereignty of Yemen. And it
would

2142
02:12:36,420 --> 02:12:38,790
I'm not talking about that I'm
talking about does he have the

2143
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:40,980
legal authority under our law to
do that,

2144
02:12:41,130 --> 02:12:45,480
under domestic authority, he
would have that authority.

2145
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:50,160
The Congress is okay with that.
I'm okay with that. We have

2146
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:52,650
authority to put boots on the
ground in the Congo?

2147
02:12:53,430 --> 02:12:53,910
We have?

2148
02:12:54,330 --> 02:12:56,070
Yes, sir. He does. Okay.

2149
02:12:56,700 --> 02:12:59,010
On the agree with me that when
it comes to international

2150
02:12:59,010 --> 02:13:01,980
terrorism, we're talking about a
worldwide struggle.

2151
02:13:03,150 --> 02:13:04,260
Absolutely, certainly. Would

2152
02:13:04,260 --> 02:13:06,450
you agree with me the
battlefield is wherever the

2153
02:13:06,450 --> 02:13:07,860
enemy chooses to make it?

2154
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:12,540
Yes, sir. from Boston to to the
Fatah?

2155
02:13:13,050 --> 02:13:17,700
I couldn't agree with you more.
We're in general. Yes, sir. I

2156
02:13:17,700 --> 02:13:19,800
agree that the the enemy decides
where

2157
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:20,700
the battlefield is,

2158
02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:23,850
and it could be any place on the
planet, and we have to be aware

2159
02:13:23,850 --> 02:13:28,020
and able to act, and do you have
the ability to act and you aware

2160
02:13:28,020 --> 02:13:29,040
of the thrust?

2161
02:13:30,030 --> 02:13:33,090
Yes, sir. We do have the ability
to react and we are tracking

2162
02:13:33,210 --> 02:13:34,170
threats globally.

2163
02:13:34,260 --> 02:13:37,320
From my point of view, I think
your analysis is correct. And I

2164
02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:39,450
appreciate all of your service
to our country.

2165
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:46,380
Now, before you say a word,
because I read the transcript of

2166
02:13:46,380 --> 02:13:54,120
this. And because of mainly the
search function on C span,

2167
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:59,430
video.org was not just unable to
get anything in time. So it's it

2168
02:13:59,430 --> 02:14:02,490
is by default, a little bit, but
still, I have to give you the

2169
02:14:02,490 --> 02:14:10,620
clip of the clip. Because, of
course, this aihole, who I think

2170
02:14:10,620 --> 02:14:20,580
he should be thrown into the hot
box is is is saying that

2171
02:14:21,060 --> 02:14:24,570
Congress no longer has the
constitutional authority to

2172
02:14:24,570 --> 02:14:30,900
declare war. It's basically the
president and whatever powers he

2173
02:14:30,900 --> 02:14:34,890
thinks he has. This is mind
boggling. And for him to

2174
02:14:34,890 --> 02:14:39,060
actually say, I agree. I think
Congress should agree it's all

2175
02:14:39,090 --> 02:14:44,370
this is exactly it. I mean, I am
almost speechless.

2176
02:14:44,910 --> 02:14:49,290
Isn't that amazing? That clip
that guy's unbelievable. Now

2177
02:14:49,290 --> 02:14:51,270
here's the thing that should
have happened right address

2178
02:14:51,270 --> 02:14:53,490
somebody should have come up
with the kind of a kind of a

2179
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:56,130
just a similar line of
questioning follow right with

2180
02:14:56,130 --> 02:14:59,370
Lindsey Graham. After he says
When is it okay to put boots on

2181
02:14:59,370 --> 02:15:02,880
the ground and calm Go Yeah,
shit. No problem. Is it okay to

2182
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:05,700
put boots on the ground in
Germany? Is it okay to put boots

2183
02:15:05,700 --> 02:15:08,130
on the ground in England? Is it
okay to put boots on the ground

2184
02:15:08,130 --> 02:15:11,820
in Mexico? In Canada? Is it okay
to put boots on the ground? In

2185
02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:14,700
China? They're already okay to
put did they have to say yes to

2186
02:15:14,700 --> 02:15:20,430
all these questions? Somebody
should have said Germany for

2187
02:15:20,430 --> 02:15:23,430
sure that would that would take
someone off? Because they have

2188
02:15:23,430 --> 02:15:29,070
to say yes to that. Well,
Germany's is an ally. We have to

2189
02:15:29,070 --> 02:15:31,740
we have the authorization we do
we have boots on

2190
02:15:31,740 --> 02:15:32,760
the ground in Germany,

2191
02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:35,790
but we do but I'm talking about
you know what I'm saying? That's

2192
02:15:35,790 --> 02:15:38,550
how, in a while we do have boots
on the ground, but they're in a

2193
02:15:38,550 --> 02:15:41,730
castle, just for next year. We
do have boots on the ground and

2194
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:42,780
Jeremy, what am I thinking?

2195
02:15:42,839 --> 02:15:50,789
So just for so people
understand. We have to explain

2196
02:15:50,789 --> 02:15:56,339
that that according to the rules
of the United States, only

2197
02:15:56,399 --> 02:16:00,449
Congress and this of course, has
been going on for forever,

2198
02:16:00,989 --> 02:16:08,669
because we have undeclared wars.
In both Iraq was a declared

2199
02:16:08,669 --> 02:16:10,259
though wasn't it? Didn't
Congress? No, no,

2200
02:16:10,260 --> 02:16:14,760
it was it was a no the only two
clauses there was authorization

2201
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:19,440
for military authority, or
military action. Sorry. There

2202
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:22,710
was never a declaration of war.
Technically, we've never done

2203
02:16:22,710 --> 02:16:28,500
one text since a long time. Long
time. Long time. So Angus King

2204
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:33,330
is going this is going a little
bit too far though. Like so.

2205
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:37,110
Basically, wherever the enemy is
at so Boston, he they can put

2206
02:16:37,110 --> 02:16:37,500
Boston

2207
02:16:37,770 --> 02:16:40,740
Boston bring the military and
then you brought the clip in

2208
02:16:40,740 --> 02:16:43,800
earlier about military taken
over the place even clip I was

2209
02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:47,130
just reading the law. Cuz I know
it's unbelievable. So this all

2210
02:16:47,130 --> 02:16:50,040
fits together. Meanwhile,
there's one lone voice in the

2211
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:52,830
wilderness because the
Republicans are all for this for

2212
02:16:52,830 --> 02:16:54,870
some dumb reason. What did they
think they're gonna get

2213
02:16:54,870 --> 02:16:57,420
presidency again against
Hillary? They're just given to

2214
02:16:57,420 --> 02:17:00,480
Hillary. Can you imagine Hillary
is the dictator of the United

2215
02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:01,200
States? Well

2216
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:03,120
get used to it. Oh, I'm

2217
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:10,980
gonna go work for her. Job I'll
get. So Angus Kim is the pendant

2218
02:17:11,010 --> 02:17:15,570
let me know how that works out
when you when you apply. Well,

2219
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:19,350
hi, Hillary. I really admire
your work.

2220
02:17:19,740 --> 02:17:21,540
I think it's good for all women.

2221
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:23,789
Love your work, man. Romain.

2222
02:17:24,210 --> 02:17:28,110
So, Angus King goes off. And of
course no of Democrats say

2223
02:17:28,110 --> 02:17:29,850
anything. They're not gonna say
anything because the President's

2224
02:17:29,850 --> 02:17:32,460
got the dictatorial power. And
the Republicans seem to be a

2225
02:17:32,460 --> 02:17:35,250
bunch of war mongers, so you got
nothing going on. And the whole

2226
02:17:35,250 --> 02:17:39,000
Congress is a corrupt bunch of
creeps. And we got this guy. And

2227
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:41,850
you can play this for as long as
you want. But you can you can

2228
02:17:41,850 --> 02:17:43,110
kill it becomes pretty long.

2229
02:17:43,230 --> 02:17:46,170
That's a date. It doesn't go
into the future. And then it

2230
02:17:46,170 --> 02:17:49,920
says or harbored such
organizations past tense, or

2231
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:53,880
persons in order to prevent any
future acts by such nations

2232
02:17:53,880 --> 02:17:57,990
organizations or persons. It
established a date. I don't

2233
02:17:57,990 --> 02:18:02,040
disagree that we need to fight
terrorism. But we need to do it

2234
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:06,930
in a constitutionally sound way.
I'm, I'm just a little lawyer

2235
02:18:06,930 --> 02:18:10,050
from Brunswick, Maine. But I
don't see how you can possibly

2236
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:15,540
read this. To be in comport with
the Constitution and authorize

2237
02:18:15,570 --> 02:18:18,210
any acts by the President.
You've testified to Senator

2238
02:18:18,210 --> 02:18:21,570
Graham, that you believe that
you could put boots on the

2239
02:18:21,570 --> 02:18:25,890
ground in in Yemen under this
under this document that makes

2240
02:18:25,890 --> 02:18:31,650
the War Powers a noloty? I'm
sorry to ask such a long

2241
02:18:31,650 --> 02:18:34,620
question. But my question is,
what's your response to this?

2242
02:18:36,630 --> 02:18:37,650
Not anybody. Let

2243
02:18:37,650 --> 02:18:40,920
me take the first response. I'm
not a constitutional lawyer or

2244
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:44,190
lawyer of any kind. But let me
talk to you a little take a

2245
02:18:44,190 --> 02:18:47,250
brief statement about al Qaeda
and the organization that

2246
02:18:47,250 --> 02:18:51,210
attacked us on September
11 2001. Two years prior to

2247
02:18:51,210 --> 02:18:55,110
that, Senator King, that
organization attacked us in East

2248
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:59,340
Africa, and killed 17 Americans
or embassy in Nairobi with a

2249
02:18:59,430 --> 02:19:03,840
loosely affiliated groups of
people in East Africa. A year

2250
02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:07,560
prior to 911. That same
organization with its affiliates

2251
02:19:07,590 --> 02:19:14,310
in Yemen, almost sunk a US ship,
the USS Cole a billion dollar

2252
02:19:14,310 --> 02:19:19,920
warship killed 17 sailors in the
port of Aden. The organization

2253
02:19:19,950 --> 02:19:25,110
that attacked us on 911 already
had its tentacles in around the

2254
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:28,020
world with associated groups.
That was the nature of the

2255
02:19:28,020 --> 02:19:31,500
organization, then it is the
nature of the organization. Now,

2256
02:19:32,130 --> 02:19:35,340
in order to attack that
organization, we have to attack

2257
02:19:35,340 --> 02:19:38,430
it with those affiliates that
are its operational arm that

2258
02:19:38,430 --> 02:19:42,420
have previously attacked and
killed Americans and high level

2259
02:19:42,420 --> 02:19:45,000
interests and continue to try to
do that.

2260
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:49,740
That's fine, but that's not what
the AUMF says. You can you can

2261
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:56,010
you what I'm saying is we may
need new authority but don't if

2262
02:19:56,010 --> 02:19:59,370
you expand this to the extent
that you have it's meaningless

2263
02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:02,430
and it ends limitation in the
war power is meaningless. I'm

2264
02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:05,910
I'm not disagreeing that we need
to attack terrorism wherever it

2265
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:09,240
comes from and where whoever's
doing it. But what I'm saying is

2266
02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:15,180
let's do it in a constitutional
way, not by putting a gloss on

2267
02:20:15,180 --> 02:20:18,420
the document that clearly won't
support it. It just, it just

2268
02:20:18,420 --> 02:20:22,230
doesn't. It just doesn't work
that I'm just just reading the

2269
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:25,230
words. It's all focused on
September 11. And who was

2270
02:20:25,230 --> 02:20:28,410
involved, and you guys have
invented this term associated

2271
02:20:28,410 --> 02:20:32,670
forces, that's nowhere in this
document. As I mentioned, in

2272
02:20:32,670 --> 02:20:35,490
your written statement, you use
that that's the key term, you

2273
02:20:35,490 --> 02:20:38,700
use it 13 times it's the
justification for everything.

2274
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:42,300
And it renders the whole the
warp the War Powers of the

2275
02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:47,040
Congress, null and void. I don't
understand. I mean, I do

2276
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:49,350
understand you're saying we
don't need any change, because

2277
02:20:49,350 --> 02:20:53,910
of the way you read it. You can,
you could do anything. But But

2278
02:20:53,910 --> 02:20:57,270
why not say come back to us and
say, yes, you're you're correct

2279
02:20:57,270 --> 02:21:02,160
that, that this is a overbroad
reading that renders the the the

2280
02:21:02,190 --> 02:21:05,520
War Powers of the Congress of
noloty. Therefore, we need new

2281
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:09,690
authorization to respond to the
new situation. I don't

2282
02:21:09,690 --> 02:21:12,600
understand why. I mean, I do
understand it, because the way

2283
02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:16,290
you read is is and there's no
limit. What the Constitution

2284
02:21:16,290 --> 02:21:16,920
contemplates?

2285
02:21:17,580 --> 02:21:23,550
Oh, he's new, isn't he? Yeah.
He's a new guy. Yeah. And new

2286
02:21:23,550 --> 02:21:26,310
guy doesn't quite know how it
works. Yep. So he's gonna get a

2287
02:21:26,310 --> 02:21:27,930
little talking to a new guy.

2288
02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:31,470
Well, he's an independent, so
nobody can tell No, no, no, no,

2289
02:21:31,530 --> 02:21:36,300
no, he'll get to talking to Hey,
new guy. You see this office?

2290
02:21:36,390 --> 02:21:41,640
Okay. So this will burn with you
in it. So new guy shot?

2291
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:43,590
Get that kind of talk? Yeah, no,
he's

2292
02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:47,370
gonna get a talk into. Yeah, I
actually enjoyed listening to

2293
02:21:47,370 --> 02:21:51,210
all of that it's fun to hear a
new guy come in and try to try

2294
02:21:51,210 --> 02:21:55,530
to be constitutional. What do
you think, John? Do you think

2295
02:21:55,530 --> 02:22:00,990
that this? We had that to poll
that said the 29% of Americans

2296
02:22:00,990 --> 02:22:03,450
feel that somewhere in the
future an armed revolt will be

2297
02:22:03,450 --> 02:22:06,450
necessary to bring America back
to where it is? Is that what

2298
02:22:06,450 --> 02:22:08,310
we're going to have to see? Is
that where we're gonna have to

2299
02:22:08,310 --> 02:22:12,690
go? Or? Or do we just or we'd
rather just starve to death and

2300
02:22:12,690 --> 02:22:14,760
go through those hardships
before we figure it out? Which

2301
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:18,930
Which way do you think is best?
Or it's like any of it? No. Is

2302
02:22:18,930 --> 02:22:20,340
there an alternative way? Or?

2303
02:22:20,430 --> 02:22:25,350
Well, we could did like somebody
that's, that's not corrupt? Oh,

2304
02:22:25,860 --> 02:22:29,760
no, I have no idea. All I know
is I'm watching the ship go down

2305
02:22:29,850 --> 02:22:39,120
helplessly. The ship is sank.
Let's party pop the bubbly. I

2306
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:39,780
wanted to

2307
02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:46,980
talk briefly about Syria, as the
proxy war is now in full effect.

2308
02:22:46,980 --> 02:22:50,100
And and I want to put it into a
bit of perspective, because all

2309
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:54,180
of this does kind of tie
together, including Benghazi,

2310
02:22:54,180 --> 02:23:00,270
very important to understand
what happened there. Besides the

2311
02:23:00,300 --> 02:23:04,440
botched kidnapping, which got
the ambassador raped, then

2312
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:08,940
killed and I put in the show
notes. For those of you who

2313
02:23:08,940 --> 02:23:11,700
might have forgotten, the
reporting from there was

2314
02:23:11,700 --> 02:23:17,010
reporting on a lot of Middle
Eastern press reported on how

2315
02:23:17,010 --> 02:23:21,180
for hours before he was dead,
and after he was dead, the

2316
02:23:21,180 --> 02:23:26,700
ambassador was sodomized in the
streets of of Benghazi is really

2317
02:23:26,700 --> 02:23:29,310
quite horrible that no one is
bringing that up. And no, I

2318
02:23:29,310 --> 02:23:31,980
guess we can't talk about that,
or whatever it is, you know,

2319
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:35,640
it's that just tells me that the
whole thing is one big facade

2320
02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:38,760
and they've all these guys who
are pretending to care really

2321
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:42,870
don't give a rat's ass. But what
was also taking place there was

2322
02:23:43,500 --> 02:23:47,940
a deal of arms to be shipped to
Turkey and from Turkey being

2323
02:23:47,940 --> 02:23:50,550
shipped down into Syria because
of course, you know, we couldn't

2324
02:23:50,550 --> 02:23:57,180
be caught actually handing our
our weapons directly to al

2325
02:23:57,180 --> 02:24:00,330
Qaeda. And this is the funny
thing. There's a great article.

2326
02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:06,480
What was it it was like Obama
now. Al Qaeda in chief or

2327
02:24:06,480 --> 02:24:10,470
something? Let me see if I can
find it. It was very funny. And

2328
02:24:10,470 --> 02:24:13,830
this article is actually
circling around everyone in the

2329
02:24:13,830 --> 02:24:17,610
armed forces. is is it's like
kind of gone viral. And

2330
02:24:17,610 --> 02:24:21,900
everyone's laughing about it.
Because it talks it talks about

2331
02:24:21,900 --> 02:24:25,380
Obama being the outcome in
charge of al Qaeda now

2332
02:24:25,410 --> 02:24:31,020
essentially, when you look at
it, it kind of seems that way we

2333
02:24:31,020 --> 02:24:38,520
had Ambassador Ford had a secret
meeting with the with the

2334
02:24:38,550 --> 02:24:43,860
opposition without nostra in in
Syria. And this is this is this

2335
02:24:43,860 --> 02:24:46,710
is no secret actually admitted.
It is documented. It's just not

2336
02:24:46,710 --> 02:24:51,090
really reported on and this
happened about three weeks.

2337
02:24:51,090 --> 02:24:57,720
Yeah, main actually may 9 And
I'll nostra one month ago, the

2338
02:24:57,720 --> 02:25:01,800
leader of al nostra which is
kind of Weird how this work was

2339
02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:06,480
determined to be a terrorist
here it is the matter of the

2340
02:25:06,480 --> 02:25:11,850
designation of Abu Muhammad Al
Jelani, also known as alpha t,

2341
02:25:11,850 --> 02:25:15,960
also known as Abu Muhammad Al
Golani, is now a specially

2342
02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:20,130
designated global terrorist
pursuant to section one B of

2343
02:25:20,130 --> 02:25:25,050
executive order 13224, which is
an old Busha executive order.

2344
02:25:25,290 --> 02:25:28,050
So, the first day they make the
guy who they have a meeting

2345
02:25:28,050 --> 02:25:32,430
with, they make him who is the
head of Al nostra who pledge

2346
02:25:32,430 --> 02:25:36,600
allegiance to alza wiry, who is,
you know, was the number two guy

2347
02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:39,360
I guess now is arguably the
number one guy of al Qaeda, and

2348
02:25:39,360 --> 02:25:41,850
then a meeting with them, and
now they give them the oil

2349
02:25:41,850 --> 02:25:48,600
fields. And unjustly so there's
reporting and this kind of made

2350
02:25:48,600 --> 02:25:53,640
me laugh. I'm reporting that
they have set up and you in

2351
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:56,400
John, you understand how this
works better than I do. They're

2352
02:25:56,400 --> 02:26:03,510
saying that the Al nostra and
the now the rebels have the oil

2353
02:26:03,510 --> 02:26:06,450
pipelines, but they don't really
focus too much on the pipelines,

2354
02:26:06,450 --> 02:26:08,850
which is of course where I'm
focused. They talk about them

2355
02:26:08,850 --> 02:26:13,440
setting up makeshift oil
refineries. Is this I mean, I

2356
02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:17,700
know a refinery exactly a
refinery cost like $3 billion.

2357
02:26:18,660 --> 02:26:22,110
You can't set up a makeshift
refinery, can you? No, that

2358
02:26:22,110 --> 02:26:23,070
makes no sense right? I

2359
02:26:23,070 --> 02:26:25,530
mean, if you've had another
refinery I mean they raided that

2360
02:26:25,530 --> 02:26:28,860
other place. I mean, if you go
grab all the distillation towers

2361
02:26:28,860 --> 02:26:32,730
and cracking facilities and all
these things you need and then

2362
02:26:32,730 --> 02:26:35,550
you have to put them together so
they actually make sense to do a

2363
02:26:35,550 --> 02:26:39,210
makeshift refinery you can do a
small refinery. But none of it

2364
02:26:39,210 --> 02:26:42,330
could be makeshift, that this
doesn't make any sense at all.

2365
02:26:42,630 --> 02:26:45,900
I'm trying to get engineers to
put the thing to make it work.

2366
02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:49,050
Yeah, let me see if let me see
if I can find this article.

2367
02:26:49,050 --> 02:26:53,190
Because I read that I'm like,
That makes no sense on a

2368
02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:56,820
couple of drums. So we're gonna
hook them together and we got a

2369
02:26:56,820 --> 02:27:01,290
pot of boiling oil and then we
can take and run the boil off

2370
02:27:01,290 --> 02:27:03,660
and then we can take the bottom
and put it into a tank.

2371
02:27:03,930 --> 02:27:06,570
That's kind of that's kind of
going to happen it's kind of how

2372
02:27:06,570 --> 02:27:07,560
it sounded

2373
02:27:08,310 --> 02:27:13,080
boiling it here in the desert
and burning it by hope it yeah,

2374
02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:17,040
we're burning boiling or
boiling. It does it Yeah, no, it

2375
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:17,820
does make shift

2376
02:27:18,180 --> 02:27:21,540
here now here it is. This is in
the guardian. Now you've got to

2377
02:27:21,540 --> 02:27:28,140
look at this. All right. Okay,
Google. EU decision to lift

2378
02:27:28,140 --> 02:27:32,760
Syrian oil sanctions and there's
a picture in The Guardian has a

2379
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:36,510
picture and it's and the caption
under the picture says a

2380
02:27:36,510 --> 02:27:41,040
makeshift oil refinery site at
El Matsuura village and they got

2381
02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:43,530
like a big vat of oil with small

2382
02:27:44,610 --> 02:27:46,350
EU decision to lift what

2383
02:27:46,380 --> 02:27:51,270
Syrian oil sanctions boosts
jihadist groups you probably

2384
02:27:51,270 --> 02:27:55,290
won't need that. You just need
the Syrian oil sanctions the

2385
02:27:55,290 --> 02:27:55,860
Guardian

2386
02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:59,040
Yeah. Do you see the picture?
I'm getting I'm just getting

2387
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:00,900
there. Now. There's a what?

2388
02:28:01,980 --> 02:28:05,100
Tell me you kidding me? Tell me
This is nuts, right?

2389
02:28:05,370 --> 02:28:09,060
Yeah, this is just a picture of
a burning tab burning barrel or

2390
02:28:09,060 --> 02:28:12,210
something. But then it looked
the dude next barrels all over

2391
02:28:12,210 --> 02:28:13,110
the place. So that's

2392
02:28:14,190 --> 02:28:18,300
that makeshift oil refinery.
That's what they're saying. This

2393
02:28:18,300 --> 02:28:20,460
is a joke. That was the
guardian. They

2394
02:28:20,460 --> 02:28:26,040
show plume of smoke. Yeah. I
thought it was the plume of

2395
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:26,370
smoke.

2396
02:28:26,400 --> 02:28:29,580
I thought it was like why that
makes no sense. So this is of

2397
02:28:29,580 --> 02:28:31,170
course not an oil refinery

2398
02:28:31,170 --> 02:28:34,680
name. I'm sure I know how to get
rationalizes if you criticize

2399
02:28:34,680 --> 02:28:38,370
him, but he said, Well, this is
the makeshift oil refinery site.

2400
02:28:38,430 --> 02:28:41,100
We haven't actually built the
refinery yet. Oh, it is burning

2401
02:28:41,100 --> 02:28:44,340
oil here to market burning oil
and a bunch of a bunch of

2402
02:28:44,340 --> 02:28:47,520
barrels with some unknown
reason. So to the company we're

2403
02:28:47,970 --> 02:28:50,700
gonna read this. As a result of
the rush to make quick money.

2404
02:28:50,850 --> 02:28:54,390
Open Air refineries have been
set up in near izhar and El

2405
02:28:54,390 --> 02:28:59,070
Raqqa. Provinces crude is stored
in ditches, and heated in metal

2406
02:28:59,070 --> 02:29:02,550
tanks by wood fires, shrouding
the region with plumes of black

2407
02:29:02,550 --> 02:29:05,190
smoke exposing the local
population to the dangers of the

2408
02:29:05,190 --> 02:29:08,430
thick smoke and the frequent
explosions at the improvised

2409
02:29:08,430 --> 02:29:14,310
plants. Heating oil, diesel and
petrol is condensed in hoses

2410
02:29:14,520 --> 02:29:18,720
running from the tanks through
pools of water and sold. Oh,

2411
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:20,610
this is bull crap.

2412
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:29,010
Thank you. So what this is, is
cover for capture of the

2413
02:29:29,010 --> 02:29:33,540
pipelines. And this so I hate to
bring it back to pipelines but

2414
02:29:33,540 --> 02:29:37,320
this is what I see going on. So
we have the Russians now. With

2415
02:29:38,040 --> 02:29:42,300
submarines in the Mediterranean.
They're being engaged we have

2416
02:29:42,930 --> 02:29:47,790
Erawan the president of Turkey
Obama brings him in gives him

2417
02:29:47,790 --> 02:29:51,690
hookers and blow like dude come
on by well hang out you mishmi

2418
02:29:51,690 --> 02:29:55,020
Michelle you and your wife we
get the kids will get their kid

2419
02:29:55,020 --> 02:29:57,690
everyone's do everyone's will
party we got we got some

2420
02:29:57,690 --> 02:30:00,480
musicians. We'll bring some
people in we got no We'll bring

2421
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:05,040
Taylor Swift, whatever we'll do.
Because you're our buddy,

2422
02:30:05,340 --> 02:30:10,020
because right now, I think we
are in a huge proxy war with

2423
02:30:10,020 --> 02:30:13,260
Russia. And it makes a lot of
sense when you see some of the

2424
02:30:14,010 --> 02:30:17,820
stories surrounding this,
because the Russians now again,

2425
02:30:18,060 --> 02:30:21,720
Europe needs Russia needs gas.
Russia is the number one

2426
02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:27,840
supplier. Israel right now has
this huge Leviathan field. We've

2427
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:31,710
already cleared the way for the
for the ownership of the piping,

2428
02:30:31,710 --> 02:30:34,890
the refining and everything
through Cyprus into Greece, from

2429
02:30:34,890 --> 02:30:38,130
Greece, it can go straight into
all of all of Europe. That's

2430
02:30:38,160 --> 02:30:43,230
completely clear that this is
what it's all about. And Turkey

2431
02:30:43,260 --> 02:30:49,140
is still the they are the main
hub for all things. Gazprom all

2432
02:30:49,140 --> 02:30:51,210
things Russian oil. Yeah,
they're trying to bring some

2433
02:30:51,210 --> 02:30:55,320
stuff in from buchu up on the
north. But we cannot have Syria,

2434
02:30:55,500 --> 02:30:58,650
Syria, it's not because God has
no oil to speak of no one gives

2435
02:30:58,650 --> 02:31:02,700
a crap about Syrian oil. Where
do you have the Syrian oil gas

2436
02:31:02,700 --> 02:31:06,720
station, that's bullcrap. They
are a conduit, a conduit for

2437
02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:09,510
pipes coming all the way across
into that harbor owned by

2438
02:31:09,510 --> 02:31:13,650
Russia. And we're always
Russians, Russia's intent to

2439
02:31:13,650 --> 02:31:17,340
have all of their gas flowing
up. And you know, obviously, we

2440
02:31:17,340 --> 02:31:20,070
have some interesting paths now.
And they've been trying to do

2441
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:23,310
deals with the Israelis had been
hanging out there, you know, but

2442
02:31:23,310 --> 02:31:26,910
now we've got warships. But one
thing certain this is a war

2443
02:31:26,910 --> 02:31:31,560
against American interest for
sure. This is why I got a couple

2444
02:31:31,560 --> 02:31:40,440
clips here. We have Russia,
embarrassing us with without

2445
02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:46,080
being our, our, our spies and so
they just out of the head of the

2446
02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:47,880
CIA, of course.

2447
02:31:48,390 --> 02:31:51,510
But this is interesting could do
anytime they want. It's just

2448
02:31:51,510 --> 02:31:56,910
to embarrass us. In fact, listen
to this. This is Erin Burnett,

2449
02:31:56,910 --> 02:32:01,590
and she's got the CIA guy Bob
Baer on and I know exactly what

2450
02:32:01,590 --> 02:32:03,030
happened here by those silly

2451
02:32:03,270 --> 02:32:06,120
which makes me wonder if the
Russians didn't plant all of

2452
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:10,620
this, which they could have. And
also Aaron, you know, you don't

2453
02:32:10,620 --> 02:32:15,240
recruit in Russia. It's it's too
dangerous because the KGB is

2454
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:19,350
always sending people into the
CIA fake volunteers. We call

2455
02:32:19,350 --> 02:32:24,120
them dangles simply to
compromise us. So you know what,

2456
02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:26,430
I'm worried what I'm worried
about is this is just indicative

2457
02:32:26,430 --> 02:32:28,260
of bad relations with Moscow.

2458
02:32:28,440 --> 02:32:31,560
Exactly. And let me tell you
about this guy with the wig on

2459
02:32:31,980 --> 02:32:37,560
he was cruising for gays in the
park with a wig on that's what

2460
02:32:37,560 --> 02:32:40,320
that's the they just did all the
good things to get the gay guy

2461
02:32:40,320 --> 02:32:44,430
out of the park and embarrass
America with that. That's what

2462
02:32:44,430 --> 02:32:47,400
the week was about. He was not
undercover. He had couple he had

2463
02:32:47,820 --> 02:32:52,320
500 year old notes to pay for
blow jobs. I know this I listen

2464
02:32:52,320 --> 02:32:54,990
I have this on pretty high
authority what went down there?

2465
02:32:55,530 --> 02:32:59,040
So we they they show this guy
with all the you know, press

2466
02:32:59,040 --> 02:33:02,610
around and Oh look, he's got the
crazy wig on little tube smoker.

2467
02:33:03,060 --> 02:33:05,580
And then we have we have our own
version of embarrassing the

2468
02:33:05,580 --> 02:33:08,370
Russian are more about the
Sanaya brothers. Interestingly,

2469
02:33:08,370 --> 02:33:11,970
that always comes through Erin
Burnett CFR member connections

2470
02:33:11,970 --> 02:33:15,900
to Chechnya and Kazakhstan.
There is another terror case

2471
02:33:15,900 --> 02:33:20,220
with ties to Uzbekistan. A 30
year old Uzbek national appeared

2472
02:33:20,220 --> 02:33:23,820
in the US court today on federal
terrorism charges. phospholamban

2473
02:33:23,820 --> 02:33:26,970
Kurbanov, a Russian speaking
truck driver is accused of

2474
02:33:26,970 --> 02:33:29,940
teaching people in Idaho to
build bombs that could blow up a

2475
02:33:29,940 --> 02:33:31,290
public transportation system.

2476
02:33:32,880 --> 02:33:37,050
You blow up a public
transportation system in Idaho

2477
02:33:37,110 --> 02:33:40,890
and Idaho y'all there's so much
public transportation there in

2478
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:45,750
Idaho. So we this is just tit
for tat this is, you know, oh,

2479
02:33:45,990 --> 02:33:48,540
okay, what you're gonna out our
guy over there, but they

2480
02:33:48,540 --> 02:33:51,330
literally outed the gay guy. I
don't know about the station

2481
02:33:51,330 --> 02:33:54,360
chief. But of course, he's in
the embassy. Of course everyone

2482
02:33:54,360 --> 02:33:58,320
knows who he is. This is just
back and forth. And it has to

2483
02:33:58,320 --> 02:34:02,310
stop. It really has to stop and
it will this will be fought in

2484
02:34:02,310 --> 02:34:08,310
the Mediterranean. It will be
fought over Syria. And really, I

2485
02:34:08,310 --> 02:34:14,550
think we're losing this. I think
the end let's just take a real

2486
02:34:14,550 --> 02:34:20,910
pro US perspective for a moment.
We have alienated the Israelis

2487
02:34:20,910 --> 02:34:24,180
who have the gas right there.
They've they've got the whole

2488
02:34:24,180 --> 02:34:28,200
thing going on. Hillary is on a
whole different track now. She

2489
02:34:28,200 --> 02:34:30,630
has been trying to get it all
done through the Balkans and up

2490
02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:33,750
through Baku. She's kind of old
school with the old school Texas

2491
02:34:33,750 --> 02:34:38,040
guys actually. But no bill
energy who's who's got Cypress

2492
02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:41,730
and you know they're good to go.
It's they've completely screwed

2493
02:34:41,730 --> 02:34:44,520
all of this up the Russians.
They've got submarines now in

2494
02:34:44,520 --> 02:34:49,560
the Mediterranean subs in the
water. They're not gonna take

2495
02:34:49,560 --> 02:34:55,050
this. Vladimir Putin. He's, have
you seen this dude, have you

2496
02:34:55,050 --> 02:34:59,670
seen his packs? Yeah, he's out
there. He's on the horses. He's

2497
02:34:59,700 --> 02:35:03,630
flying. And ultralights he's
they try to blow him up he's

2498
02:35:03,630 --> 02:35:09,000
like laughing at you trying to
blow me up he walks away this

2499
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:12,900
guy's serious business. So we
and we're not doing a good job

2500
02:35:12,900 --> 02:35:16,440
we are really pussyfooting
around this and just taking it

2501
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:19,890
from from the perspective of
okay let's let's we might as

2502
02:35:19,890 --> 02:35:23,610
well have dominance and let's go
for it this president needs to

2503
02:35:23,610 --> 02:35:27,780
go for it and he needs to go
pretty damn quick but he doesn't

2504
02:35:27,780 --> 02:35:32,130
want it you see he wants
legacies of saving the earth but

2505
02:35:32,130 --> 02:35:37,470
you can't walk that line this is
why he's in so much trouble and

2506
02:35:37,500 --> 02:35:40,800
and this this will continue but
it's tears will come as my

2507
02:35:41,550 --> 02:35:45,870
side you who knows who's behind
all these scandals all at once I

2508
02:35:45,870 --> 02:35:48,150
mean it's possible that this is
like the you know or

2509
02:35:48,150 --> 02:35:51,150
whatever the shadow government
is yeah him out get someone in

2510
02:35:51,150 --> 02:35:52,350
who can do the job for him to

2511
02:35:52,350 --> 02:35:55,200
quit find a really good scandal
they can't deal with the

2512
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:58,020
Associated Press ones we should
have turned should turn the

2513
02:35:58,020 --> 02:36:00,990
media against him. Yes, if it
works, right.

2514
02:36:01,439 --> 02:36:05,879
Kinda kind of it's a little bit
a little bit okay well that's

2515
02:36:05,909 --> 02:36:08,879
that's an interesting theory
that is real tinfoil hat stuff I

2516
02:36:08,879 --> 02:36:15,359
like it that the shadow
government if I

2517
02:36:15,929 --> 02:36:18,899
would Ron Paul said he said the
CIA took over the United States

2518
02:36:18,929 --> 02:36:19,499
68

2519
02:36:19,529 --> 02:36:23,339
through that so if you and I
were CIA running the shadow

2520
02:36:23,339 --> 02:36:27,269
government What would our plan
be we can play this we can do

2521
02:36:27,269 --> 02:36:31,139
this better than as good as
anybody. So well first of all,

2522
02:36:31,289 --> 02:36:31,799
we have

2523
02:36:31,800 --> 02:36:35,070
we need some setup. So in other
words, we have to create some

2524
02:36:35,070 --> 02:36:39,210
traps we need a warrior now I
firstly we need a trap to get

2525
02:36:39,210 --> 02:36:44,670
Obama to do something that could
be considered illegal that we

2526
02:36:44,670 --> 02:36:47,520
did then they can throw all the
then you can take all your you

2527
02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:49,320
know, you got all this stuff
backed up, you have a bunch of

2528
02:36:49,320 --> 02:36:51,990
reports you have all the books
ready to go and things already

2529
02:36:51,990 --> 02:36:54,750
pre written you got you have a
hole and you have a team of

2530
02:36:54,750 --> 02:36:58,830
people that are can be retreat
writing a bunch of anti Obama

2531
02:36:58,830 --> 02:37:01,980
material they can throw at him
and what have to happen pretty

2532
02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:04,470
soon. But you know, most of the
subs are probably already done

2533
02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:07,410
that just kind of destroy his
credibility make him a little

2534
02:37:07,440 --> 02:37:11,760
nutty. I mean, he hasn't, he's
been pretty good at not being

2535
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:15,210
super flustered, like Nixon
freaked. He went nuts when they

2536
02:37:15,210 --> 02:37:19,080
went after him. And we know from
that, that bush book the what

2537
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:22,230
was the name of that that family
of secrets and we've seen Nixon

2538
02:37:22,260 --> 02:37:26,250
it the whole Watergate thing. It
looks to be a setup to Dr. Nixon

2539
02:37:26,250 --> 02:37:28,800
crazy, wasn't he you know, you
had the screwballs a guy

2540
02:37:28,800 --> 02:37:31,500
screwing it up. They're leaving
tape on the doors, all these

2541
02:37:31,500 --> 02:37:34,140
nonprofessional kinds of
mistakes were made. Very

2542
02:37:34,140 --> 02:37:36,390
interesting section of that
book, by the way, which makes

2543
02:37:36,390 --> 02:37:39,810
Nixon looked like he had nothing
to do with Watergate, but he got

2544
02:37:39,930 --> 02:37:42,840
swept up in it like an idiot.
Well, it's possible that

2545
02:37:42,840 --> 02:37:45,660
something like that can be done.
And this again is 40 year cycle,

2546
02:37:45,810 --> 02:37:48,840
these old tricks can be used
again on the same in the same

2547
02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:51,450
way that they can be used on
Obama, no one will remember the

2548
02:37:51,450 --> 02:37:55,680
old days. And we want to know
it's definitely great for the

2549
02:37:55,680 --> 02:37:56,340
show.

2550
02:37:57,000 --> 02:38:01,440
No doubt about it. But this but
who, who, so I think that they

2551
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:07,740
probably portray us was in play
and portray it was portray us

2552
02:38:07,740 --> 02:38:12,270
was I think he truly was
supposed to be president and

2553
02:38:12,270 --> 02:38:15,360
still may be the guy that they
want to run for president.

2554
02:38:16,680 --> 02:38:17,580
That'd be hard now.

2555
02:38:17,730 --> 02:38:23,550
I don't think so. Obama, Obama
did Coke, smoke weed. Yeah, but

2556
02:38:23,550 --> 02:38:26,820
Petraeus is also a snotty
character when he comes in front

2557
02:38:26,820 --> 02:38:31,110
of the camera. He does. He's not
likable. He is Romney had the

2558
02:38:31,110 --> 02:38:35,670
same problem. True true.
telegenic aspects of Romney and

2559
02:38:35,700 --> 02:38:39,270
portrayals are very similar.
rubs you the wrong way when you

2560
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:39,810
watch him,

2561
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:41,010
okay. Well, I'm sorry.

2562
02:38:41,460 --> 02:38:42,420
And Obama said that.

2563
02:38:43,170 --> 02:38:46,770
I really, really, you know, why
am I why am I even saying this?

2564
02:38:46,770 --> 02:38:51,390
I'm an idiot. I'm so stupid. I'm
sorry. The answer was obvious.

2565
02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:56,400
The next Republican president is
Hillary Clinton. Because, you

2566
02:38:56,400 --> 02:38:58,140
know, she'll run as a Democrat,
of course,

2567
02:38:58,440 --> 02:39:01,020
yeah. Well, Bill was a
Republican, as far as I can

2568
02:39:01,020 --> 02:39:01,560
tell. She

2569
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:05,190
is She is the one to do it. She
is the one to do it.

2570
02:39:05,220 --> 02:39:06,240
She's a kick ass.

2571
02:39:06,600 --> 02:39:09,060
She is a take it and take it me.
veza

2572
02:39:09,060 --> 02:39:13,320
Lindsey Graham look like a wimp.
I take that back. He is a wimp.

2573
02:39:14,279 --> 02:39:16,619
Her dick is five times bigger
than mine.

2574
02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:22,650
I know. So this will be
interesting. If you're gonna go

2575
02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:28,650
after Obama, it has to be now.
Why now? Well, because it

2576
02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:32,520
because he goes over it because
he got all this stuff. There's a

2577
02:39:32,640 --> 02:39:35,880
there's four scandals going on
right now. You can't let these

2578
02:39:35,880 --> 02:39:39,660
all blow over and try to rebuild
a bunch of scandals. It's just

2579
02:39:39,690 --> 02:39:42,900
it'll be you'll be seen as a
Teflon, another Teflon president

2580
02:39:43,080 --> 02:39:45,300
that nothing will stick to it
like right right. You know,

2581
02:39:45,300 --> 02:39:49,110
Reagan was similar to that. And
so they got to, this is the

2582
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:52,710
moment you got all these things
at once. You got the AP thing.

2583
02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:57,540
You got the you got the right.
Bunch of stuff going on. You got

2584
02:39:57,540 --> 02:40:00,840
the IRS deal. You got a bunch of
things going on at once. and

2585
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:03,420
maybe you can distract the IRS
and blame it on the Republicans

2586
02:40:03,420 --> 02:40:06,810
but there's things going on. And
he doesn't seem to be.

2587
02:40:07,170 --> 02:40:10,110
So they gotta make him cry is
what you're saying. Yeah, he's

2588
02:40:10,110 --> 02:40:13,170
gonna make him cry and say,
Well, I'm gonna just quit.

2589
02:40:13,530 --> 02:40:17,100
You can also suspect that you
know you can also drug somebody

2590
02:40:17,970 --> 02:40:20,970
and it comes out and next thing
you know that something hits him

2591
02:40:21,090 --> 02:40:26,940
right in the middle of a speech.
Now can I say? He's talking like

2592
02:40:26,940 --> 02:40:29,280
a mad dude. Dude, I would be
very let

2593
02:40:29,280 --> 02:40:34,200
me say somebody have you know,
watch the president. Proud it's

2594
02:40:34,200 --> 02:40:38,340
funny you say this. He has been
talking with his head cocked to

2595
02:40:38,340 --> 02:40:43,020
the right. Like he like his neck
hurts or something? Yeah.

2596
02:40:43,050 --> 02:40:44,700
Have you noticed this? Now?

2597
02:40:45,930 --> 02:40:47,400
I'll look at it. Now you watch

2598
02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:51,210
him. His head is continuously
cocked to the right. When he's

2599
02:40:51,210 --> 02:40:55,470
talking. Now he'll he'll twist
to the teleprompter. You know,

2600
02:40:55,470 --> 02:40:57,780
it goes from left to right. And
it's not really apparent but

2601
02:40:57,780 --> 02:41:00,900
when he's answering questions,
his head is that's when you

2602
02:41:00,900 --> 02:41:04,950
really see it. Or at least from
the camera angle that I saw. His

2603
02:41:04,950 --> 02:41:07,200
head is cocked to the right and
I'm thinking wow, there's the

2604
02:41:07,200 --> 02:41:09,570
head like a stiff neck or
something that could be

2605
02:41:09,570 --> 02:41:13,920
something wrong and regardless
of whether I mean of course it

2606
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:16,560
would be it would be hilarious
if in the middle of some speech

2607
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:18,600
he just went like one of those
maybe then when they were

2608
02:41:18,600 --> 02:41:21,810
testing on the TV reporters were
just like start talking

2609
02:41:21,810 --> 02:41:22,710
backwards right

2610
02:41:22,710 --> 02:41:24,960
remember? Yeah, that was like
that'd be hilarious because this

2611
02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:29,070
in detail for a couple of years
ago and it was going on for a

2612
02:41:29,850 --> 02:41:34,170
long period of time to get those
stories kind of ended. Yeah,

2613
02:41:34,170 --> 02:41:36,630
that could have been you might
be right that was the testing of

2614
02:41:36,630 --> 02:41:37,740
some sort of drug

2615
02:41:38,190 --> 02:41:43,350
or or or been well be hold on.
So what started with the girl

2616
02:41:43,350 --> 02:41:47,700
who was at the Grammys I have
the here's the video was her

2617
02:41:47,700 --> 02:41:53,160
name's serene. Branson think her
name was Kerrigan knows her

2618
02:41:53,160 --> 02:41:56,790
name. Let's see if I can find it
here. This was the Grammys and

2619
02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:57,300
too many

2620
02:41:57,300 --> 02:42:00,450
details this morning. About that
Los Angeles television reporter

2621
02:42:00,450 --> 02:42:04,110
was suddenly began slurring her
speech and speaking gibberish in

2622
02:42:04,110 --> 02:42:07,290
her report on the Grammys. The
video serene Branson quickly

2623
02:42:07,290 --> 02:42:10,020
went viral and Andrew Kenny has
a lot more on this medical

2624
02:42:10,230 --> 02:42:12,780
mystery and Andrew anyone who's
done live TV can sympathize with

2625
02:42:12,780 --> 02:42:15,090
Surrey but right away this
seemed to be something far more

2626
02:42:15,090 --> 02:42:15,780
Where's the video?

2627
02:42:15,810 --> 02:42:18,510
It makes me break out into a
cold sweat just watching it but

2628
02:42:18,510 --> 02:42:19,680
it does seem to be

2629
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:24,480
yes let's do it. Here we go. My
YouTube play

2630
02:42:28,170 --> 02:42:33,330
well, a very very heavy heavy
rotation tonight. We had a very

2631
02:42:33,330 --> 02:42:36,840
dares Derrickson by let's go
ahead terrorists ties in those

2632
02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:37,530
hands.

2633
02:42:41,220 --> 02:42:45,840
That's it, put it in the book.
Put it in a book

2634
02:42:46,289 --> 02:42:49,949
that it works that has been
forgotten by most people

2635
02:42:49,950 --> 02:42:51,210
not by me, baby.

2636
02:42:53,430 --> 02:42:56,550
This is definitely this is a
possibility. Because no one's

2637
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:59,520
gonna make the association that
wasn't tested this already and a

2638
02:42:59,520 --> 02:43:02,670
bunch of these news anchors who
have to be on the on their toes

2639
02:43:02,670 --> 02:43:06,720
and they're always reading from
a prompter. And yeah, that can

2640
02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:09,630
happen and that would be that
would be dynamite. What do

2641
02:43:09,630 --> 02:43:14,970
you think happened to her serene
Branson. Okay, this is Oh, I

2642
02:43:14,970 --> 02:43:18,780
wonder what happened. Do you
think she's? Is she dead? Did

2643
02:43:18,780 --> 02:43:26,040
she leave the profession? Did
she? Let's see a serene Branson.

2644
02:43:28,290 --> 02:43:32,370
I don't think there's a lot of
news about our friends serene. I

2645
02:43:32,370 --> 02:43:38,100
think she's off the map when he
say I'll just do a quick sketch.

2646
02:43:38,130 --> 02:43:43,380
I'll have to look into this
more. I don't see anything.

2647
02:43:43,410 --> 02:43:49,410
She's just gone. She just gone.
Gone from the landscape. And

2648
02:43:49,410 --> 02:43:52,200
then it wasn't it happened
again. But that was it. It made

2649
02:43:52,200 --> 02:43:54,330
so much sense for it to happen
their

2650
02:43:54,840 --> 02:43:56,430
LinkedIn profile. Oh,

2651
02:43:56,490 --> 02:43:57,210
good work.

2652
02:43:57,390 --> 02:44:02,460
I can go there and see what she
she's now a reporter fill in

2653
02:44:02,460 --> 02:44:03,570
anchor. Oh, yeah.

2654
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:10,200
We'll be our fill in either our
go to gal for when everyone's

2655
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:10,980
dead.

2656
02:44:11,160 --> 02:44:13,530
Casey ale and yeah, yeah, so

2657
02:44:14,970 --> 02:44:17,790
this is not what you want to
hear. Yes. You're, uh, you're

2658
02:44:17,790 --> 02:44:22,680
our first fill in? Yeah, no,
that's not that's not really

2659
02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:26,250
going to work. Is it okay, good.
She

2660
02:44:26,250 --> 02:44:30,870
looks very much like Shannon
Bream. Anyway,

2661
02:44:31,740 --> 02:44:35,100
okay, so that could happen. That
would be, but of course, then.

2662
02:44:35,370 --> 02:44:37,440
Joe Biden comes in.

2663
02:44:37,530 --> 02:44:38,490
I think that'd be great.

2664
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:41,820
I think it would be pretty
funny. Yeah, I think we all

2665
02:44:41,820 --> 02:44:47,160
would be like, Yeah, well, is is
Joe the kind of well, you know,

2666
02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:50,100
he he's totally malleable.

2667
02:44:51,780 --> 02:44:54,990
Oh, yeah, he plays. I would say
Joe Biden's the guy who not only

2668
02:44:54,990 --> 02:44:58,800
plays ball but would say it as I
play ball, right? Yeah. Oh,

2669
02:44:58,800 --> 02:44:59,940
yeah. Hey,

2670
02:45:00,450 --> 02:45:04,230
I play ball just so you know
give me someone I'm hot babes

2671
02:45:07,380 --> 02:45:13,140
wouldn't keep me a great
president he would be hilarious

2672
02:45:13,140 --> 02:45:16,380
think about it. Doesn't he look
good? He could like a good

2673
02:45:16,380 --> 02:45:19,350
looking guy. But he could he
could say like,

2674
02:45:19,649 --> 02:45:21,929
member Fox member when in

2675
02:45:23,250 --> 02:45:28,050
was the movie. It talked about
Bulworth member deliverance when

2676
02:45:28,050 --> 02:45:33,960
he got mad man right. man raped
you know break man raped. Well,

2677
02:45:33,990 --> 02:45:39,570
no one's man raping Joe Biden.
He will be fantastic he does he

2678
02:45:39,570 --> 02:45:43,920
would go on there so I'm gonna
go Man Ray Bashir Allah shot

2679
02:45:43,920 --> 02:45:50,550
myself whatever it takes boys. I
think he's the man a Joe's the

2680
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:54,960
guy to beat and it'd be great
because he couldn't run it for a

2681
02:45:54,960 --> 02:45:59,280
couple of years. You know easy
easy in and then be like alright

2682
02:45:59,280 --> 02:46:00,360
I did my job and

2683
02:46:01,200 --> 02:46:04,350
ah. egomaniac he'd have to run.

2684
02:46:04,830 --> 02:46:09,420
No, no, no, no, no, he's gonna
run. No, he would run for vice

2685
02:46:09,420 --> 02:46:10,470
president with Hillary.

2686
02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:15,180
I'm telling you got a vice
president a great job telling

2687
02:46:15,180 --> 02:46:17,790
you that rock Of course he just
wants to hang out.

2688
02:46:20,040 --> 02:46:24,120
Well, I'm excited now the future
is fantastic. Keep your eye on

2689
02:46:24,120 --> 02:46:30,510
the takeaway. I mean that in a
sincere way. Of course. If you

2690
02:46:30,510 --> 02:46:34,080
enjoyed any of this analysis
here on the program today, while

2691
02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:36,960
you're listening in the car
while you're making dinner while

2692
02:46:36,960 --> 02:46:40,830
you're at work, hopefully your
work isn't so horrible that you

2693
02:46:40,830 --> 02:46:42,750
have to entertain yourself
listening to us, but it's

2694
02:46:42,750 --> 02:46:47,340
possible. And if you're young,
remember you are the new

2695
02:46:47,340 --> 02:46:53,160
blacksmith. You are the new
carpenter. You must get the GIMP

2696
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:57,510
getting to 3d modeling,
understand how this stuff works.

2697
02:46:57,570 --> 02:47:01,620
New communities will be formed
around you. And you'll be

2698
02:47:01,620 --> 02:47:05,490
working with the local doctor to
build pieces and parts. We can

2699
02:47:05,490 --> 02:47:08,970
go around all of this every This
is my name. This will be my new

2700
02:47:08,970 --> 02:47:17,580
book. The book is titled Get the
GIMP coming to you from the

2701
02:47:17,790 --> 02:47:22,350
traverse heights hideouts here
in the capital of the drone Star

2702
02:47:22,350 --> 02:47:24,330
State in the morning everybody
I'm Adam curry

2703
02:47:24,600 --> 02:47:27,390
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I remain I'm John C.

2704
02:47:27,390 --> 02:47:27,990
Dvorak.

2705
02:47:28,830 --> 02:47:31,890
We'll be back again on Thursday
with more value for value hope

2706
02:47:31,890 --> 02:47:36,330
you enjoyed the show
dvorak.org/na until Thursday

2707
02:47:37,560 --> 02:47:38,490
this is no agenda

2708
02:47:43,350 --> 02:47:47,970
well a very very heavy heavy
visitation tonight. We had a

2709
02:47:47,970 --> 02:47:51,840
very dares Derrickson by let's
go ahead terrorists ties in

2710
02:47:51,840 --> 02:47:52,740
those for the bet have the

2711
02:47:57,210 --> 02:48:00,720
ball red.org/and A

