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Subjugation!

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Destruction!

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Adam Curry.

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John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, June 5th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1770.

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This is no agenda.

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No mo' bromance!

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And broadcasting live from the heart of the

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Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region No.

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6 in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it looks

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like it's warming up, I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.

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Wow, completely inspired.

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Yeah, it was all, I was, I didn't

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think anything.

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I had nothing to say.

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That's what I mean, completely inspired.

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Okay.

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It's warming up.

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The weather looks, it's a little windy.

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It's warming up, it's warming up.

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Not much going on.

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Man, Trump is so smart.

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Now what?

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He's got a, he's perfect.

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People are so dense.

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Everybody's in a tizzy.

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Elon, Elon is mad at the big, big,

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beautiful bill.

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Elon is mad.

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It can be big, it can be beautiful,

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but it can't be both.

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Well, he went even further.

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He's posting, it's disgusting.

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And President Trump is taking questions right now

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with Mr. Peepers in the Oval saying, I'm

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very, very disappointed.

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That's still going, no, that can't still be

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going on.

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With Peepers?

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As we speak.

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You have your monitors up there.

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Are they still talking?

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The quad is, the quad is everyone's showing

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President Trump saying, I'm very disappointed in Elon.

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How stupid can everybody be?

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In a blistering 10 post tirade on X,

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Elon Musk torched President Trump's signature spending plan

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known as the...

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That's news for you.

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That's ABC news.

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And by the way, that is also a

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teaser for tip of the day.

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Torched President Trump's signature spending plan known as

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the big, beautiful bill calling it a disgusting

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abomination and accused lawmakers of passing a massive,

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outrageous pork-filled bill that will massively increase

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the already gigantic budget deficit.

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The President already knows where Elon Musk stood

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on this bill.

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It doesn't change the President's opinion.

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Musk's criticism widens a public rift with the

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Trump administration and its allies.

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With all due respect, my friend Elon is

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terribly wrong.

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The bill could have a major impact on

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Elon Musk's businesses.

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It would phase out tax credits for electric

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vehicles, possibly impacting the bottom line at Tesla.

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Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who voted for the

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bill in the House last month, now says

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she did not realize the bill includes a

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10-year federal ban on states regulating AI.

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Greene posting, I am adamantly opposed to this

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and it is a violation of state rights

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and I would have voted no if I

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had known this was in there.

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So there's a lot here in this one

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First of all, Marjorie Taylor Greene is not

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read in and she is very afraid because

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Elon Musk has said, I'm going to pull

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out my wallet, I'm going to primary anybody

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who voted for this disgusting thing.

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We've seen various tensions between the two.

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exited the White House last week.

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this.

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We found that out just recently, on Sunday

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actually, in an interview with CBS News.

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Well now, this though, is his most daring

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tweet about this big, beautiful bill, as Donald

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Musk tweeting, I'm sorry, but I just can't

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stand it anymore.

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This massive, outrageous pork-filled congressional spending bill

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is a disgusting abomination.

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Shame on those who voted for it.

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You know you did wrong.

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You know it.

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Now, he also doubled down on this in

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the hours that followed.

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He then tweeted, in November next year, i

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.e. the midterms, we fire all politicians who

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betrayed the American people.

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Congress is making America bankrupt.

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was asked about this at the press briefing

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today.

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Now, she said, look, the President already knows

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where Elon Musk stood on this bill.

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It doesn't change the President's opinion.

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This is one big, beautiful bill, and he's

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sticking to it.

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Well, indeed, the White House is standing by

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that bill, saying it will reduce government spending,

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but the man they put in charge of

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cutting government spending, Elon Musk, clearly disagrees.

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So, this is like a triple, a triple

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thing that's going on here.

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Not for a second do I believe the

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bromance is over.

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First of all, Elon, he needs to get

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back to his business.

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He needs to show everybody that, well, you

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know, like, I'm really not all for this.

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You can come back and buy my cars.

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That's one.

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Two, we gotta smoke out all the traitors.

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We gotta smoke them out, the people who

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are just flip-floppy, wishy-washy, like Marjorie

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Taylor Greene, who apparently didn't even read the

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bill.

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That's fantastic.

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Well, if I knew that was in there,

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I wouldn't have voted for it.

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Well, what are you voting for, then?

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Thomas Massey, Rand, and, what's the, Ron Johnson.

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is no good, and they're even publicly saying,

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we want Elon to fund primary challengers, and

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it's bringing out all kinds of right-wing

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publications, talking about these, you know, about the

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turncoats.

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two, smoke out the people who are not

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on the president's team, and three, it's guaranteed

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to pass now.

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No one's gonna go against Elon Musk.

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They're not gonna jump in with him all

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of a sudden.

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No, you can't, like, just turn around and

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say, oh, I love Elon.

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Well, not after that fiasco in Wisconsin.

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Oh, the cheesehead thing?

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No, when he put tons of money behind

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that judge who lost.

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his head.

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Oh, you put a cheesehead on?

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I have one of those.

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They fall apart after a while.

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I don't know what it's made out of,

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but it's just one of those things that

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oxidizes and starts crumbling.

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So, this is an obvious gambit.

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It's so clear, but everybody, oh, you know,

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this is about Elon's business.

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He doesn't like it because of his business.

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What?

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Because he's not gonna get SpaceX deals?

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Because of the phase-out of the subsidy

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on electric vehicles?

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And it gives the M5M all kinds of

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reasons to speculate, and yeah, we knew this

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would end.

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It's all over.

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Yeah, they don't even know how to break

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up these boys.

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The president has remained uncharacteristically quiet as Elon

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Musk continues to attack this bill.

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Attack.

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It's obviously kind of a, I don't know

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if it's a tricky situation for both of

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them, but what do you make of his

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silence?

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This, by the way, I think is the

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guy who wrote the article, which he's been

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doing the rounds everywhere.

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All of a sudden, Mark Caputo, scoop!

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Scoop!

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This is on Axios.

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Scoop, colon.

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For reasons Musk attacks Trump's big beautiful bill.

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Here are the four reasons.

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The legislation cuts the electric vehicle tax that

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helps carmakers like Musk's Tesla, which really phases

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out over many years.

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Two, Musk was working at the White House

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as what's called a special government employee.

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He discussed trying to stay beyond the 138

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He's pissed about that.

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Three, Musk wanted the Federal Aviation Administration to

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use his Starlink satellite system for national air

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traffic control.

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The administration balked.

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And the final straw appeared to come Saturday

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night when Trump abruptly announced he was withdrawing

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the nomination of Jared Isaacsman, a Musk ally,

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to be NASA administrator.

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That's the reason?

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And this guy is everywhere.

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Set up?

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I think it is a tricky situation for

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both of them.

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Elon Musk is the richest guy in the

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world.

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He owns the most important social media platform.

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No disrespect to True Social.

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And he's very popular with a big segment

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of Trump's coalition, including a lot of people

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in Congress.

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And meanwhile, Trump is very popular with a

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lot of people like Elon Musk.

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It's sort of like that old expression where

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you ride a tiger until you have to

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get off, and that's when the tiger eats

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you.

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These guys have been sort of taking turns

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riding each other's fame and cults of personality,

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and they just don't know how to break

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And it creates real political problems for both

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of them, and it's kind of fascinating to

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watch.

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How does it create political problems for Elon

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Musk?

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He doesn't have a political career.

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You have new reporting about more personal reasons

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why Musk may be unhappy with the president,

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including the White House, withdrawing the nomination of

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Musk's ally to head NASA, the FAA balking

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and using the Starlink for national air traffic

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control, and maybe unhappy about tax credits for

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electric vehicles being cut by the bill, which

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is something that Speaker Johnson mentioned yesterday.

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You broke this story.

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It was a big scoop.

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You also report Musk actually wanted to remain

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a special government employee past the legal 130

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-day limit, and this was after he was

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gifted that golden key.

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Donald Trump does like Elon Musk.

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Now, he's kind of annoyed and not really

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happy with Musk teeing off on the legislation

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the way he has, and there's a whole

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bunch of discussion to be had about that.

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But in the end, he respects Elon Musk.

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He likes Elon Musk, and that's partly informing

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this very rare impulse control from President Trump.

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The other thing I'm told by White House...

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All of a sudden, President Trump has impulse

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control.

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It's amazing.

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What could possibly be going on?

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Officials, is that Trump doesn't really want to

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feed this anymore.

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They don't want to give more oxygen to

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Elon Musk.

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These are my words, not theirs, but I

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can tell that there's sort of a hope

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that Musk will sort of punch himself out.

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However, as you've seen from Musk's personal life,

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where he's had a number of nasty breakups,

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his breakups and the end of his relationships

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with people sometimes in a rather acrimonious way,

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and we're seeing a little sign of that

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here with the President, at least one way

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from Musk to President Trump.

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Trump is in the water, and the minnows

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are all over it.

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Especially on the right.

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It's amazing.

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Do you not know Trump's algorithm by now?

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Have you not figured it out?

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It's just baffling to me.

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Right on cue in the troll room, yeah,

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this is all to cover up the Palantir

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news.

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Well, I'm glad you brought that up, Troll

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Matthews.

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Yes, we have a note.

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We do.

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We have a boots on the ground from

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an insider at Palantir.

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What was the Palantir news?

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It was just a rumor, wasn't it?

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Just a gossipy thing?

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No, no, no.

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Trump is going to use Palantir to create

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a profile of every American, and then he's

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going to do something with it.

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Where was that released as news?

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Oh, I had a guess last time in

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the show notes.

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Hold on a second.

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I'll look up for you.

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We didn't even get to it because I

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knew right away.

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It's like, alright.

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Palantir.

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Here we go.

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New York Times.

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Would that make sense?

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That our very own trolls fall for that?

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Alex Carbco.

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Here, headline.

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Palantir to compile data on Americans.

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Alex Carbco, founder, chief executive of Palantir, at

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a forum in Washington in April.

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Trump has not publicly talked about the effort,

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but behind the scenes, officials have quietly put

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technological building blocks into place to enable...

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This is not a new story.

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This is a speculative story.

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Well, it's based upon what this Alex Carb

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said at this forum in Washington.

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And the Trump administration has expanded Palantir's work

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across the federal government in recent months.

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The company has received more than $113 million

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in federal government.

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That's a bad contract by the way.

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You've got to be at least a bill.

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Since Mr. Trump took office, according to public

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records, including additional funds from existing contracts as

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well as new contracts for the Department of

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Homeland Security and the Pentagon.

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So, the push has put a key Palantir

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product called Foundry into at least four federal

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agencies, including DHS, Health and Human Services Department,

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widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data,

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paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily

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merge information from different agencies.

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Imagine that.

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Wow, you mean like the DMV from Washington

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States talking to the DMV from California so

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they can find out you're a drunk?

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Imagine that.

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So, we have we got our boots on

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the ground from an insider from Palantir, his

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credentials check out, and of course he's been

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asked he's asked us to keep his identity

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anonymous and his work history, which is interesting.

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Yes, that would be a giveaway.

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I was recruited by Palantir to help stand

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up its AML platform, that's anti-money laundering

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platform.

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Platforms like this use machine learning models to

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confirm identity and detect suspicious transaction activity.

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To do this they use mountains of data

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from various clearinghouses and data from other clients.

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Late in the interview cycle I requested to

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speak with the head of product.

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I asked him how they sourced their seed

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data for machine language training.

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He informed me they had no data.

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Part of my job is to get agreements

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in place with tier one banks to source

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that data so they can begin training models.

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Based on this, I declined the job.

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People like Whitney Webb would have you believe

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Palantir is scraping all of our data for

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Mossad.

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There it is.

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Stop.

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That's the best part of the note.

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If that were the case, Palantir would have

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more than enough data to train their AML

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models.

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They have exactly zero data in-house, meaning

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she's full of crap.

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What Palantir actually does is provide the platform

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for organizations to perform machine learning training off

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their own data.

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This is exactly what Trump wants Palantir to

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do for the various executive agencies.

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I get the arguments why this could be

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bad, but there are very real reasons why

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this is a great thing.

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Medicaid paid Thomson Reuters $5 million for the

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Social Security Administration death master file data.

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Yes, the government paid $5 million to a

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Canadian company for its own data.

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This is only one example that I am

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directly familiar with, but I'm sure there are

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dozens.

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The government's data infrastructure is an ungodly mess,

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and if we can fix it with Palantir,

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it could help eliminate Social Security and tax

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fraud and speed up every government service.

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And that makes sense.

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That's what Doge was doing.

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Connecting databases.

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Connecting data sources.

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I also see this as a good thing.

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I do too.

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But oh no.

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This is it.

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This is exactly it.

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It's the Whitney Webb thing.

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Yeah, Whitney Webb.

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And it's not just Whitney Webb.

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I wasn't even planning on rolling this out

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this early.

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It is also Katherine Austen Fitz.

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Because you know how many times...

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I went back and looked.

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You know how many times we have either

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discussed or talked about Katherine Austen Fitz on

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the podcast?

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I do not know, but I do...

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Her name does ring a bell.

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It's almost close to 100 times.

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Yes, go to bingit.io. In the past

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17 and a half years.

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It's really...

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She sneaks in a lot.

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She does sneak in a lot.

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And we just noticed it now?

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No!

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We need Palantir.

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But she was on the Danny Jones podcast.

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Let's just pretend we know who Danny Jones

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is.

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But he's got views.

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You know, we promised ourselves we'd do more

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with the alternative media.

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Now the question, because she...

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The question is, Trump is big on Bitcoin.

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Now listen to how she answers without even

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mentioning Bitcoin at all.

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And what she immediately states as fact.

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So Trump has been super...

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This current administration, this new administration, or at

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least when Trump was running, he was very

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pro-Bitcoin.

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Trump was put in by the bankers to

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get the control grid.

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The other team in the Unipower wasn't moving

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fast enough.

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They couldn't get the control grid.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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I get to wait.

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I didn't understand what she said.

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She said he was put into the bankers,

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blah, blah, blah.

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I couldn't understand what she said.

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What'd she say?

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She speaks quite eloquently.

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I'll repeat it and I'll play it again.

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Trump was put in by the bankers to

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put in the control grid.

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This, by the way, she was in the

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housing administration, I think.

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She was reasonably senior within the US government.

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And her whole thing has been control grid,

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Mr. Globalist, I don't know who that is,

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but they've stolen all our money.

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Okay, well, yeah, duh.

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All the money's been stolen.

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But it's all about the control grid.

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Palantir, it's all...

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She's like the adult Whitney Webb.

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Trump was put in by the bankers to

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get the control grid.

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The other team in the uniparty wasn't moving

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fast enough.

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They couldn't get the control grid.

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I say you a link.

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We just did a new collection of all

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the things Trump is doing to move the

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control grid.

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He is moving very, very fast.

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When it comes to building...

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Hold on a sec.

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Yeah, Richard Johnson, troll.

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We didn't say Trump combining all the info

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the government has on Americans into a big

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database is a good thing.

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We didn't say that.

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When Elon Musk was connecting all the databases,

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everyone loved it.

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Think with your head, man.

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First, he's getting the Real ID implemented very

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aggressively.

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Real ID.

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To do a control grid, you need a

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very high quality, precision national ID.

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Yeah, that's what that little star on my

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driver's license is, is a very high quality,

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high precision national ID.

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That's pre-Trump.

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It's been going on for decades.

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Decades.

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Way pre-Trump.

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Interoperable with all the other IDs around the

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world.

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And he's got Kristi Noem out there pushing

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the Real ID like there's no tomorrow.

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I agree.

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I haven't heard her say shit about the

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Real ID.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We even played a clip of her talking

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about it.

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Yeah, we did.

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Okay.

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In fact, let me make sure I'm...

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Real ID.

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Noem.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, here it is.

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Hi, I'm Kristi Noem, the United States Secretary

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of Homeland Security.

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If you plan on traveling, we need your

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help to prevent delays and to prove your

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identity.

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Get a Real ID.

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Starting May 7th, you will need a Real

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00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:43,630
ID to travel by air or to visit

553
00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:45,670
federal buildings in the United States.

554
00:19:45,810 --> 00:19:47,870
She's definitely pushing it like no one else's

555
00:19:47,870 --> 00:19:48,210
business.

556
00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:50,750
But to me, it's just a big distraction

557
00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:54,150
from the obvious facial recognition that's going on

558
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:55,030
at every airport.

559
00:19:55,170 --> 00:19:56,970
Don't need a Real ID for that.

560
00:19:57,770 --> 00:19:59,350
They're just taking my image.

561
00:19:59,730 --> 00:20:00,790
Don't worry, we'll delete it.

562
00:20:01,010 --> 00:20:02,830
We'll delete it within 24 hours.

563
00:20:02,970 --> 00:20:03,970
It won't delete anything.

564
00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:07,130
Real ID implemented very aggressively.

565
00:20:07,470 --> 00:20:08,050
Real ID.

566
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:10,350
To do a control grid, you need a

567
00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:14,490
very high-quality, precision national ID that's interoperable

568
00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:16,210
with all the other IDs around the world.

569
00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:18,210
And he's got Kristi Noem out there pushing

570
00:20:18,210 --> 00:20:19,810
the Real ID like there's no tomorrow.

571
00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:21,770
I don't know how it's interoperable.

572
00:20:23,230 --> 00:20:26,230
Is there a Real ID database I'm unaware

573
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:28,930
of that every single country has tapped into?

574
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:29,310
No.

575
00:20:30,110 --> 00:20:32,490
So they're working, and it's done through the

576
00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:34,090
states, but the feds are pushing it.

577
00:20:34,550 --> 00:20:35,850
So the first thing you need is a

578
00:20:35,850 --> 00:20:36,350
digital ID.

579
00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:37,730
The second thing you need is an all

580
00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:39,050
- digital financial system.

581
00:20:39,130 --> 00:20:40,990
So you've got to kill cash, and you've

582
00:20:40,990 --> 00:20:42,590
got to make everybody interact digitally.

583
00:20:42,750 --> 00:20:43,950
And if you look at what he's doing

584
00:20:43,950 --> 00:20:45,970
with taxes and Social Security, he's trying to

585
00:20:45,970 --> 00:20:47,810
make everybody...

586
00:20:47,810 --> 00:20:50,630
He's canceled pennies, but he's also canceled now.

587
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:53,910
Normally I pay my taxes with paper, and

588
00:20:53,910 --> 00:20:55,190
now he's saying, no, you've got to do

589
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:55,990
everything digitally.

590
00:20:56,850 --> 00:20:58,550
It's not this year, but next year.

591
00:20:59,150 --> 00:20:59,250
Really?

592
00:20:59,390 --> 00:21:01,890
If you go through that list, I've got...

593
00:21:01,890 --> 00:21:02,590
Oh my gosh.

594
00:21:03,370 --> 00:21:05,590
John, you and I, do you even send

595
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:05,910
a check?

596
00:21:06,010 --> 00:21:07,390
I still send checks to the IRS.

597
00:21:07,550 --> 00:21:08,770
Do you send a check, or do you

598
00:21:08,770 --> 00:21:10,030
do it online?

599
00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:11,870
You don't do it at all.

600
00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:13,410
Mimi does it, but let's just pretend we

601
00:21:13,410 --> 00:21:13,690
know.

602
00:21:15,630 --> 00:21:16,230
It's...

603
00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:19,410
we actually have to, because we had our

604
00:21:19,410 --> 00:21:21,910
identity stolen a number of years ago.

605
00:21:22,270 --> 00:21:22,370
Yeah.

606
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:25,470
Mimi actually has to go in.

607
00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:26,110
In person?

608
00:21:26,530 --> 00:21:30,110
In person to the IRS and hand them

609
00:21:30,110 --> 00:21:30,550
a check.

610
00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:31,090
Wow.

611
00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:33,670
Well, she better bring her real ID.

612
00:21:35,070 --> 00:21:36,730
She won't get in the office.

613
00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:38,690
But wait, she...

614
00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:41,610
Katherine Austin Fisk is about to bring in

615
00:21:41,610 --> 00:21:42,450
my favorite topic.

616
00:21:43,030 --> 00:21:43,470
Really?

617
00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:44,710
So he's trying to...

618
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:46,010
If you go through that list, I've got

619
00:21:46,510 --> 00:21:48,630
50 different items of what he's doing.

620
00:21:49,790 --> 00:21:50,190
And if you...

621
00:21:50,190 --> 00:21:51,670
I would love to see the list of

622
00:21:51,670 --> 00:21:53,310
50 different items of what he's doing.

623
00:21:53,310 --> 00:21:54,270
I would like to see...

624
00:21:54,270 --> 00:21:59,230
She's got that nervous, that voice of hers

625
00:21:59,230 --> 00:22:01,430
is enough to make you not believe a

626
00:22:01,430 --> 00:22:02,210
word she says.

627
00:22:02,330 --> 00:22:04,130
Even though she's very smart.

628
00:22:04,270 --> 00:22:06,550
She sees a lot of things correctly, but

629
00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:07,450
this...

630
00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:10,570
Trump was brought in by the bankers to

631
00:22:10,570 --> 00:22:12,850
get the control grid in place.

632
00:22:13,650 --> 00:22:13,750
Okay.

633
00:22:13,930 --> 00:22:14,170
Really?

634
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:15,390
So he's trying to...

635
00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:16,690
If you go through that list, I've got

636
00:22:16,690 --> 00:22:19,290
like 50 different items of what he's doing.

637
00:22:19,670 --> 00:22:20,250
Where's the list?

638
00:22:20,250 --> 00:22:21,590
And if you look at what they're doing

639
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:23,550
with the Genius Act and Stablecoin, he said

640
00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:24,730
no CBDCs.

641
00:22:25,490 --> 00:22:25,950
But...

642
00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:27,030
My favorite topic.

643
00:22:27,130 --> 00:22:28,670
The Genius Act and Stablecoin.

644
00:22:28,810 --> 00:22:28,990
Okay.

645
00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:30,390
Stablecoin...

646
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:31,650
So I don't know if you've read the

647
00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:33,510
Genius Act, which is the new plan for

648
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:33,990
stablecoins.

649
00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:34,290
Okay.

650
00:22:34,730 --> 00:22:38,410
A CBDC would be issued by the Federal

651
00:22:38,410 --> 00:22:38,750
Reserve.

652
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:41,030
So presumably the New York Fed and the

653
00:22:41,030 --> 00:22:41,870
Fed member banks.

654
00:22:42,150 --> 00:22:42,250
Okay.

655
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:45,850
Now, they are owned by their members.

656
00:22:46,270 --> 00:22:50,410
So Citibank, JPMorgan Chase, they own...

657
00:22:51,330 --> 00:22:52,850
As members, they own the New York Fed

658
00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:54,610
and basically govern it.

659
00:22:54,930 --> 00:22:55,030
Okay.

660
00:22:56,170 --> 00:22:58,690
And the New York Fed is the depository

661
00:22:58,690 --> 00:23:02,050
for the Treasury and the different banks work

662
00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:04,330
as agent to do those transactions.

663
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:04,750
Okay.

664
00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:07,050
So now in the Genius Act, what they're

665
00:23:07,050 --> 00:23:08,970
saying is the guys who own the New

666
00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:10,890
York Fed are all going to create subsidiaries

667
00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:14,370
and issue stablecoin, which will be interoperable and

668
00:23:14,370 --> 00:23:17,570
can work with a social credit system.

669
00:23:17,890 --> 00:23:19,750
So she just throws that out there.

670
00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:23,690
It'll interop with a social credit system, which

671
00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:26,450
I guess is being built by Palantir based

672
00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:29,050
upon all of the information and your real

673
00:23:29,050 --> 00:23:29,490
ID.

674
00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:34,170
Yeah, you know, you're making that up.

675
00:23:34,170 --> 00:23:38,590
This last clip, which is short, she actually

676
00:23:38,590 --> 00:23:42,270
explains perfectly what the stablecoin gambit is and

677
00:23:42,270 --> 00:23:43,770
she has this so right.

678
00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:46,370
But to me, it completely detracts from her

679
00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:50,730
whole conspiracy mind because if she'd answered the

680
00:23:50,730 --> 00:23:54,870
question, which is about Bitcoin, which never comes

681
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:58,090
up again, that's the antithesis of a stable

682
00:23:58,090 --> 00:23:58,530
coin.

683
00:23:59,050 --> 00:23:59,710
But okay.

684
00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:01,930
What they're planning to do on stablecoin, which

685
00:24:01,930 --> 00:24:03,410
I have to say is a financial matter,

686
00:24:03,530 --> 00:24:04,230
is quite clever.

687
00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:07,530
Remember the pallets of cash you sent to

688
00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:07,970
Iraq?

689
00:24:08,410 --> 00:24:08,770
Oh, yeah.

690
00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:11,670
This is going to be the digital equivalent

691
00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:13,770
of the pallets of cash sent to Iraq.

692
00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:16,250
See, this doesn't even make sense.

693
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:19,010
So the pallets of cash sent to Iraq,

694
00:24:19,390 --> 00:24:22,310
stablecoin is going to be the digital equivalent

695
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:23,030
of that.

696
00:24:23,490 --> 00:24:25,750
Oh, because it's so anonymous?

697
00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:29,530
Because we don't know who holds that pallets

698
00:24:29,530 --> 00:24:30,050
of cash.

699
00:24:30,050 --> 00:24:32,470
We don't know exactly whose pocket that's in,

700
00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:37,030
but for some unknown reason now, the stablecoin

701
00:24:37,030 --> 00:24:39,810
is going to be just like anonymous cash,

702
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:41,850
which of course she said it's not going

703
00:24:41,850 --> 00:24:42,330
to be.

704
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:42,990
Okay.

705
00:24:43,450 --> 00:24:45,490
This is going to be the digital equivalent

706
00:24:45,490 --> 00:24:47,510
of the pallets of cash sent to Iraq

707
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:49,290
because what they want to do with stablecoins,

708
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:53,430
so a stablecoin is just a bank deposit

709
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:55,130
or a treasury bill or bond, so it's

710
00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:57,010
fully collateralized by a dollar.

711
00:24:57,250 --> 00:25:00,130
You put a dollar in and these stablecoins

712
00:25:00,130 --> 00:25:01,130
are going to, I mean, you have some

713
00:25:01,130 --> 00:25:02,910
stablecoins that do gold or other things, but

714
00:25:02,910 --> 00:25:03,590
these are going to be...

715
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:04,210
Gold or other things.

716
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:07,510
Bitcoin is already backing stablecoin, but let's just

717
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:08,310
gloss over that.

718
00:25:08,370 --> 00:25:08,670
Dollar.

719
00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:10,770
And this is going to create a huge

720
00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:12,830
market for the treasury bills and bonds.

721
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:17,710
And you're going to, the bank subsidiaries will

722
00:25:17,710 --> 00:25:20,070
create the stablecoins that will be fully collateralized

723
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:22,070
in treasury bonds or bills, but then you

724
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:24,250
can send them out on Google Payment and

725
00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:27,630
Apple Payment and all the wallets around the

726
00:25:27,630 --> 00:25:30,870
world and literally you can get people from

727
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:34,990
Bolivia to South Korea coming into your state

728
00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:36,030
and using stablecoins.

729
00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:36,470
Yes!

730
00:25:36,490 --> 00:25:38,370
So you're literally going to tend for the

731
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,950
global population try and get everybody off of

732
00:25:41,950 --> 00:25:44,470
their local currency and the stablecoins and you're

733
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:46,170
going to pump out massive amounts of private

734
00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:47,630
credit to make it really attractive.

735
00:25:49,170 --> 00:25:50,710
So you're just going to hand out money

736
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:52,810
and get everybody on the dollar.

737
00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:53,710
Yes!

738
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:55,430
Exactly!

739
00:25:57,370 --> 00:25:58,690
Is that a bad thing?

740
00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:02,770
It's being the world-reserved currency without being

741
00:26:02,770 --> 00:26:03,990
the world-reserved currency.

742
00:26:05,410 --> 00:26:08,030
I know it's a big concept for people,

743
00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:11,790
but this whole idea of control grid, but

744
00:26:11,790 --> 00:26:13,410
then all of a sudden it's like pallets

745
00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:13,990
of cash.

746
00:26:14,150 --> 00:26:15,430
No, no, no, no, no.

747
00:26:16,150 --> 00:26:18,670
This stablecoin thing has got real legs and

748
00:26:18,670 --> 00:26:20,350
I think it is genius.

749
00:26:21,670 --> 00:26:24,610
And there's already 400 million people in the

750
00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:26,030
world who use stablecoin.

751
00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:28,410
Almost none of them in the United States.

752
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:31,630
Because you can use your Venmo.

753
00:26:32,010 --> 00:26:33,270
You can use your PayPal.

754
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:34,590
You can use all that.

755
00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:36,410
It's not intended for us.

756
00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:38,430
But okay.

757
00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:42,590
Just calm down everybody.

758
00:26:43,570 --> 00:26:48,010
The control grid, the Palantir, Peter Thiel, Elon

759
00:26:48,010 --> 00:26:48,450
Musk.

760
00:26:48,670 --> 00:26:49,230
Oh no!

761
00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:51,230
What are we going to do?

762
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:55,550
As if the control grid wasn't already here

763
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,980
on your phone.

764
00:27:01,660 --> 00:27:02,580
The phone in the drawer?

765
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:05,820
You are the only one they can't find.

766
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,420
Where's this Dvorak character?

767
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,000
We can find family members all over the

768
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,820
country from South Dakota to Washington, but we

769
00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:15,380
can't find the kingpin.

770
00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:16,800
Where is he?

771
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,140
So calm down everybody.

772
00:27:21,580 --> 00:27:23,660
The best thing about the big beautiful bill

773
00:27:23,660 --> 00:27:25,680
is the extension of the tax cuts, and

774
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,640
you want that.

775
00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:29,220
You want that.

776
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:31,580
And what is it going to add?

777
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,460
It's going to potentially add $270 billion a

778
00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:39,440
year to our already out of control deficit?

779
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,360
Well, that's debatable.

780
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,260
If it's that much or if it's more

781
00:27:45,260 --> 00:27:45,560
than that?

782
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,540
It's that much, but it's debatable whether we

783
00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:48,900
really add to it or not.

784
00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:53,000
The whole idea is we're going to outgrow

785
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,700
the deficit.

786
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:57,840
We're going to get a lot of cash,

787
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,780
which I think, doesn't that directly impact the

788
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,320
deficit if we get a lot of cash?

789
00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:04,920
We get a lot of tariff money, yes.

790
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,260
Also, with the stable coin, the way I

791
00:28:09,260 --> 00:28:12,240
understand it, you can get the stable coin

792
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,500
at par to the dollar, one for one,

793
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,360
if you deal with us.

794
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,340
If you don't deal with us, you get

795
00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:19,400
it for 95 cents.

796
00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:24,200
This has Trump's fingerprints all over it.

797
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,000
He is much more of a meta guy

798
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,960
than people understand.

799
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,000
He just comes across as a doofus.

800
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:33,360
I think he's got it by the right

801
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:33,920
end this time.

802
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,680
If not, well, whatever, we'll have another guy

803
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,260
in three years and we'll see what happens

804
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:37,520
then.

805
00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:41,780
But all of this stuff that's going on,

806
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,620
it's sending our people, our people into a

807
00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:44,840
tizzy.

808
00:28:46,770 --> 00:28:48,490
Our people have been in a tizzy for

809
00:28:48,490 --> 00:28:48,850
a while.

810
00:28:49,690 --> 00:28:51,230
I'm trying to calm them down.

811
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:51,850
It's going to be okay.

812
00:28:52,270 --> 00:28:53,450
I think it's out of control.

813
00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:55,870
You can't fight it.

814
00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:57,910
I want to fight it.

815
00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:00,430
You're spending too much time fighting it.

816
00:29:00,890 --> 00:29:01,850
You want to hear...

817
00:29:01,850 --> 00:29:03,430
You want to spend more time mocking it.

818
00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:06,370
I don't want to mock our own people.

819
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:07,850
You have to.

820
00:29:08,150 --> 00:29:10,070
No, I don't think that's necessary.

821
00:29:10,510 --> 00:29:14,570
I am here to help spin down my

822
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:14,910
people.

823
00:29:15,030 --> 00:29:15,550
I'm sorry.

824
00:29:15,790 --> 00:29:16,670
I have to do this.

825
00:29:16,670 --> 00:29:18,950
At the tone, a clip from The View

826
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:19,670
will be played.

827
00:29:20,690 --> 00:29:21,670
Shelter in place.

828
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:25,630
Elon Musk basically could tank Donald Trump's entire

829
00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:26,550
legislative agenda.

830
00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:28,890
This big, beautiful bill, it has energy, it

831
00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:30,970
has border security, it has extending his tax

832
00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:31,470
cuts in it.

833
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:33,830
If Republicans decide, ooh, we don't want to

834
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:35,490
get on the wrong side of Elon, that

835
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:37,130
is what Donald Trump is banking it all

836
00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:38,990
on, and that's kind of devastating for his

837
00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:39,490
administration.

838
00:29:39,890 --> 00:29:42,090
On the flip side, those Republicans, if you're

839
00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:44,250
in a House district, you're like, I'm afraid

840
00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:44,850
of Donald Trump.

841
00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:46,930
But Elon Musk, because of the dark money

842
00:29:46,930 --> 00:29:48,510
system we live in, he can come in

843
00:29:48,510 --> 00:29:50,850
and primary you by just pouring millions and

844
00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:51,890
millions into your race.

845
00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:54,390
And we know it doesn't necessarily work, because

846
00:29:54,390 --> 00:29:56,070
we just saw, thank you for reminding us,

847
00:29:56,130 --> 00:29:57,970
we saw that in Wisconsin, so what are

848
00:29:57,970 --> 00:29:58,810
you talking about?

849
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:59,770
He can come in and...

850
00:29:59,770 --> 00:30:01,070
It had just the opposite effect as a

851
00:30:01,070 --> 00:30:01,650
matter of fact.

852
00:30:01,790 --> 00:30:02,390
I would say so.

853
00:30:02,590 --> 00:30:04,650
I believe it had, I believe they got

854
00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:06,270
wind of it, and it had the opposite

855
00:30:06,270 --> 00:30:08,130
effect of the desired effect.

856
00:30:08,590 --> 00:30:10,970
...primary you by just pouring millions and millions

857
00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:11,710
into your race.

858
00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:13,510
And there is that that, you know, if

859
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:16,710
one was going to think, you know, ooh,

860
00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:17,850
maybe this happened.

861
00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:21,050
You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything.

862
00:30:21,450 --> 00:30:22,850
Yeah, he got all that information.

863
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:23,970
He knows how...

864
00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:27,010
He's literally sitting at Twitter, looking at everybody's

865
00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:27,530
information.

866
00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:29,650
Yeah, I see what you're doing, I see

867
00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:30,430
what you're looking at.

868
00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:32,310
Did she say 411 on everybody?

869
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:34,450
Oh yeah, the 411, baby, that's how all

870
00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:35,230
the kids are talking.

871
00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:36,690
Ten years ago.

872
00:30:36,750 --> 00:30:38,650
Well, she better guard her six.

873
00:30:39,790 --> 00:30:41,410
Ooh, maybe this happened.

874
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:44,670
You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything.

875
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:46,450
Yeah, he got all that information.

876
00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:48,810
I think you can say that, that's like

877
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:50,510
you can turn, like, a code switch.

878
00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:53,570
Like, Elon knows the 411 on everything.

879
00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:54,590
Everything.

880
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:55,930
Maybe this happened.

881
00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:59,170
You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything.

882
00:30:59,450 --> 00:31:00,930
Yeah, he got all that information.

883
00:31:01,010 --> 00:31:03,510
He knows how all this came down.

884
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:04,330
Came down.

885
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:05,670
So now someone...

886
00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:06,670
Ooh, Harumph!

887
00:31:06,890 --> 00:31:07,290
Harumph?

888
00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:09,770
I'm so angry!

889
00:31:09,970 --> 00:31:11,450
So Trump should be afraid of him.

890
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:12,570
I think Trump is afraid of him.

891
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:14,430
He has seats on the election, too.

892
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:15,490
I think he is afraid of him.

893
00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:17,810
Well, $20 million he spent alone in that

894
00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:20,350
Wisconsin Supreme Court race, so imagine, he would

895
00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:21,750
just need to peel off a handful of

896
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:22,830
Republicans this cycle.

897
00:31:22,930 --> 00:31:25,090
Like, the entire balance of power in the

898
00:31:25,090 --> 00:31:26,890
House of Representatives could stand on if Elon

899
00:31:26,890 --> 00:31:29,310
Musk actually follows through in primaries, people who

900
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:29,530
vote for him.

901
00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:30,930
And the votes to peel off are there,

902
00:31:31,030 --> 00:31:32,950
because the party is divided on what it

903
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:33,230
wants to do.

904
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:36,090
But hasn't this damaged Elon Musk's reputation?

905
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:36,570
Massively.

906
00:31:38,290 --> 00:31:38,750
Tesla's...

907
00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:40,230
You can't even sell them anymore.

908
00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:41,890
You can't even get rid of them.

909
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:43,270
People aren't buying them.

910
00:31:43,510 --> 00:31:45,150
They're burning them.

911
00:31:45,530 --> 00:31:46,230
They're burning them.

912
00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:46,950
Did you hear?

913
00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:47,630
They're burning them.

914
00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:48,490
They're burning them.

915
00:31:48,610 --> 00:31:49,510
Yes, they're burning them.

916
00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:51,470
I'll tell you something else.

917
00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:53,150
It dawned on me.

918
00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:55,290
It was not hard, because it kept hitting

919
00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:56,830
me in the face like a wet salmon.

920
00:31:57,690 --> 00:32:01,470
There will be no peace in Ukraine until

921
00:32:01,470 --> 00:32:03,430
after the big NATO summit.

922
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:08,290
Because it is so obvious now, and I

923
00:32:08,290 --> 00:32:11,410
would say that President Trump and President Putin

924
00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:13,070
are both in this.

925
00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:16,290
Do you get hit in the face by

926
00:32:16,290 --> 00:32:17,590
a wet salmon a lot?

927
00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:18,670
Have you ever...

928
00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:20,530
I grew up in Holland, man.

929
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,740
I think it's a Dutch expression, actually.

930
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,180
I think that's where it comes from.

931
00:32:27,340 --> 00:32:29,320
But thanks for interrupting my flow.

932
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,360
I'm sorry, but you got me jammed with

933
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,940
that one.

934
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,500
It's just like when you get hit in

935
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:38,780
the face with a wet salmon.

936
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:39,560
What?

937
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:41,560
That's never happened to me.

938
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,060
Well, you've never lived in Holland.

939
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,040
I think that President Trump, President Putin, they

940
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,720
are definitely playing together.

941
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,860
And everyone's jumping in on it.

942
00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:58,540
The Germans, the Brits.

943
00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:00,120
The Brits are...

944
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Hold on a second.

945
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,360
I got to play this from the Brits

946
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,640
first.

947
00:33:04,820 --> 00:33:08,240
Listen to Keir Starmer.

948
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,800
It's a plan to reverse decades of post

949
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,200
-Cold War British military decline and to send

950
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,660
a message to Moscow after its invasion of

951
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:17,080
Ukraine.

952
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,600
We are moving to war-fighting readiness.

953
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
When we are being directly threatened by states

954
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,960
with advanced military forces, the most effective way

955
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,460
to deter them is to be ready.

956
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,400
We got to spend some money, everybody.

957
00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:34,880
The UK will boost both stockpiles and weapons

958
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,780
production capacity that could be scaled up if

959
00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:40,660
needed with at least six new munitions factories.

960
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,380
The plan includes building 12 new attack submarines

961
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:47,340
and investing more in Britain's nuclear arsenal.

962
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,740
We are investing £15 billion in our sovereign

963
00:33:50,740 --> 00:33:54,860
warhead programme to secure our deterrent for decades

964
00:33:54,860 --> 00:33:55,380
to come.

965
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:57,860
It's also a message to Washington.

966
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,920
Like other NATO members, the UK has been

967
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,800
reassessing its defence spending since Donald Trump returned

968
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
to the White House threatening to pull away

969
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,139
from Europe's defence.

970
00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:10,280
Everything we do will add to the strength

971
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,080
of NATO.

972
00:34:11,739 --> 00:34:14,480
As we step up to take greater responsibility

973
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,280
for our collective defence, the NATO alliance means

974
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,659
something profound that we will never fight alone.

975
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,300
The new announcements come after the UK pledged

976
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,659
to raise defence spending to hit 2.5

977
00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:33,000
% of GDP by 2027 and 3%

978
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,460
before 2034.

979
00:34:35,219 --> 00:34:37,020
But it's unclear where the money will come

980
00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:38,340
from for the latter target.

981
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,360
As he juggles severely strained public finances, Starmer

982
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,300
has portrayed the higher defence spending as a

983
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:47,380
way to create jobs and has already contentiously

984
00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:49,340
cut international aid spending.

985
00:34:49,659 --> 00:34:51,719
General Smedley Butler said it best.

986
00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:53,840
War is a racket and I think in

987
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,320
this case, except for the poor Ukrainians, we

988
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,400
are going to be raising everybody's GDP by

989
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,760
creating more war machines and it's going to

990
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,480
be particularly good for the United States because

991
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,140
we have helped and facilitated the fear that

992
00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:15,460
Russia's going to take over everything and Putin's

993
00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:18,380
the big bad boogeyman and we need to

994
00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:21,060
have more money and nothing proves it better

995
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:23,800
than the ministers of defence all getting together

996
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,640
in Brussels talking about the new budgets and

997
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,720
led as always by the interestingly nose-touching

998
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,400
sniffing Mark Rutte.

999
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,140
NATO defence ministers are meeting in Brussels to

1000
00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:40,100
lay the ground for the summit in The

1001
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:43,400
Hague and also take key decisions to enhance

1002
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,900
our deterrence in defence.

1003
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,040
We will also address our continued support for

1004
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,700
Ukraine and the urgent need for peace.

1005
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,620
The world, how do we get peace?

1006
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,300
Is becoming more dangerous.

1007
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:58,160
There's Russia's brutal war against Ukraine.

1008
00:35:58,580 --> 00:36:01,900
The threat of terrorism and intense global competition.

1009
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,400
We will continue to protect our people and

1010
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,220
our way of life.

1011
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:07,720
Now there's a BUD coming.

1012
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:11,400
So we must make NATO a stronger fairer

1013
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,380
and more lethal alliance.

1014
00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:15,560
At this ministerial we are going to take

1015
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,740
a huge leap forward.

1016
00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:19,440
We will strengthen our deterrence in defence by

1017
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,760
agreeing ambitious new capability targets.

1018
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,400
Oh, new capability targets, what does that mean?

1019
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,640
To deliver on our new targets it's clear

1020
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,960
that we will need significantly higher defence spending.

1021
00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:31,820
That underpins everything.

1022
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,260
Yes, more defence spending because if we defend

1023
00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:36,940
it we will be better than the Romans.

1024
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,500
NATO is the most powerful defence alliance in

1025
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:41,040
world history.

1026
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,040
It's even more powerful than the Roman Empire.

1027
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,980
More powerful than the Napoleon Empire.

1028
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,100
We are the most powerful defence alliance in

1029
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,280
world history.

1030
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,380
But a defence alliance needs maintenance and needs

1031
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:53,840
investment.

1032
00:36:54,020 --> 00:36:54,740
Needs maintenance.

1033
00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:56,660
If you want to be strong you need

1034
00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:57,460
to maintain it.

1035
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,500
And that's exactly why in NATO we have

1036
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:02,840
this whole system, the NATO defence planning process

1037
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,280
leading to an agreement on the capability targets.

1038
00:37:05,540 --> 00:37:09,220
That means that we will have exactly exact

1039
00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:11,960
clarity on where are we and where should

1040
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,880
we be if we want to be able

1041
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,520
to defend ourselves not only today but also

1042
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,500
in 3, 5, 7 years.

1043
00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:20,400
Listen to the German Chief of Defence who

1044
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,380
said this week on the record that within

1045
00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:25,080
4 or 5 years the Russians might be

1046
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,040
able to attack us.

1047
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:28,440
4 or 5 years they come to attack

1048
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,460
us, the Russians are coming!

1049
00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:32,140
I and all my colleagues want to prevent

1050
00:37:32,140 --> 00:37:33,660
that because we want to stay free.

1051
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,660
We value our way of life and we

1052
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:42,140
don't want any form of Russian dominance over

1053
00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:43,000
NATO territory.

1054
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,940
Ok, so we need to spend.

1055
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,320
So all the ministers are together, they're all

1056
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,800
talking about it and they're trying to put

1057
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,000
that 5% together with some fuzzy numbers

1058
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,740
and this is very suspicious what's going on.

1059
00:37:57,140 --> 00:37:59,720
Now the US, the Trump administration has been

1060
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:01,780
demanding a 5% target.

1061
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:04,340
That's way up from the existing 2%

1062
00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:04,800
target.

1063
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,940
Mark Rutte has figured out a way to

1064
00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:08,020
kind of fudge that.

1065
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,280
His proposal on the table is that that

1066
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,840
would be a 3.5% target for

1067
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,760
hard military spending, tanks, ammunition, this type of

1068
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,320
stuff and then an additional 1.5%

1069
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,340
on military adjacent spending which would be things

1070
00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:26,120
like cyber security, it could be investing in

1071
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,360
domestic infrastructure to make sure bridges are able

1072
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,120
to withstand the weight of tanks.

1073
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,800
This has been greeted cautiously let's say by

1074
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,120
the US administration.

1075
00:38:39,020 --> 00:38:41,080
It could be that Trump shows up to

1076
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,560
that NATO summit at the end of the

1077
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,640
month and says no, we need 5%

1078
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,120
hard spending.

1079
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,860
Yeah, we definitely do and Pete Hegseth was

1080
00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:50,700
very clear about it because he's also in

1081
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:50,980
Brussels.

1082
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,900
It's very good to be here with Ambassador

1083
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:54,360
Whitaker.

1084
00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:57,720
I thought his remarks, statements, everything yesterday were

1085
00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:58,220
spot on.

1086
00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:01,340
So thank you for representing the United States

1087
00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:04,620
and I don't think anybody has done more

1088
00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:07,080
to advance the cause of strengthening NATO than

1089
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,940
President Trump and he started it in his

1090
00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:11,960
first term calling for 2%, calling for investment

1091
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,820
in this alliance.

1092
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,260
You've got to be, to be an alliance,

1093
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,540
you've got to be more than flags, you've

1094
00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:17,840
got to be formations, you've got to be

1095
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,840
more than conferences, you need to be combat

1096
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,940
ready capabilities.

1097
00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:24,900
He didn't quite have all the alliteration down

1098
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:25,920
but he finally got there.

1099
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,680
So we're here to continue the work that

1100
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200
President Trump started which is a commitment to

1101
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,740
5% defense spending across this alliance which

1102
00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:35,540
we think will happen, which we think has

1103
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,560
to happen by the summit at The Hague

1104
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,180
later this month.

1105
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:42,740
So that's our focus, 5%, combat credible and

1106
00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:45,700
capable forces and then making sure NATO is

1107
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:49,220
focused on its core mission, continental defense, where

1108
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:50,640
its comparative advantage exists.

1109
00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:52,600
So we look forward to talking to counterparts

1110
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,220
today and advancing American interests but also the

1111
00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:58,000
interests of the continent.

1112
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,320
5%.

1113
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,640
That's just it, 5%.

1114
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,580
And where is that going?

1115
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:02,260
To us.

1116
00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:05,940
And Putin then gets to do his thing

1117
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:08,860
and Russia, well, you know, they're ramping up

1118
00:40:08,860 --> 00:40:10,220
over there we need some more money.

1119
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:11,940
Everyone's doing it.

1120
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,300
You know, we just have to make sure

1121
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:16,320
no one goes crazy and pushes a button

1122
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,620
but that behooves no one.

1123
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:21,320
So to me no peace until after the

1124
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,180
big splash in The Hague and then miraculously

1125
00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:28,280
we won't have a what do they have

1126
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,680
in North Korea?

1127
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,300
Armistice?

1128
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,800
We'll do something like that.

1129
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,700
We won't have an actual peace agreement, I

1130
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:34,080
don't think.

1131
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:37,000
This has always been about money.

1132
00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:38,620
It always is.

1133
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960
The joke is tanks?

1134
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:45,580
I know!

1135
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,240
Check the calendar!

1136
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:52,500
You know, on the drones I got a

1137
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:57,940
really interesting short clips from the War Room

1138
00:40:57,940 --> 00:40:58,440
podcast.

1139
00:40:58,700 --> 00:40:59,660
This is not Banyan.

1140
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:02,520
It's not Banyan.

1141
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:05,200
Before you say that I want to mention

1142
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,180
a meme that's been floating around which is,

1143
00:41:08,420 --> 00:41:12,580
it says American aircraft carrier, it shows an

1144
00:41:12,580 --> 00:41:15,020
aircraft carrier big giant thing, one of the

1145
00:41:15,020 --> 00:41:15,480
big ones.

1146
00:41:16,660 --> 00:41:18,660
Then it says French aircraft carrier, it shows

1147
00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:19,640
one of the French aircraft.

1148
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,880
It says Chinese, it shows a Chinese one.

1149
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,720
Then it says Ukrainian aircraft carrier, it shows

1150
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:25,820
a big rig.

1151
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,240
Just a truck.

1152
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,080
Well.

1153
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:30,500
A lot cheaper.

1154
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:35,300
There's so many questions around that drone attack.

1155
00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:40,080
I love the aerial footage that is circulating

1156
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,780
which seems to be drone footage going over

1157
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:45,140
the destroyed bombers.

1158
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:48,520
Some of them have five engines, some have

1159
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,040
three.

1160
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,840
It's so obvious.

1161
00:41:51,140 --> 00:41:51,720
Tell that to bombers?

1162
00:41:52,060 --> 00:41:52,720
Yeah, it's AI.

1163
00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:54,180
AI video floating.

1164
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:56,140
Who knows what's even real anymore?

1165
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:56,820
We can't tell.

1166
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:57,660
We don't know.

1167
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:04,540
This completely explains the drones over New Jersey.

1168
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:10,020
It's very interesting to learn from this Lieutenant

1169
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:11,820
Lushenko.

1170
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,460
Lieutenant Lushenko, he is with the JCO.

1171
00:42:16,460 --> 00:42:18,100
Hold on a second, I have him.

1172
00:42:19,980 --> 00:42:22,160
U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel serves as the

1173
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,120
chief strategist and director of future studies and

1174
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,300
war gaming for the Joint Counter Small Unmanned

1175
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:33,140
Aircraft Systems Office, known as the JCO.

1176
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,360
He's propagandist, obviously, but he's good.

1177
00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:39,480
It is different to think about homeland defense

1178
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,680
versus force protection of soldiers and coalition forces

1179
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,300
abroad.

1180
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,780
In a recent exercise, what we found was

1181
00:42:46,780 --> 00:42:49,160
that we are just out of position, frankly,

1182
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,320
in the homeland in terms of the kit,

1183
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,040
in terms of training, and in terms of

1184
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,200
policies and authorities.

1185
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:57,300
Things as simple as how do we communicate

1186
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,680
across the interagency with the FAA, the Federal

1187
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,860
Aviation Administration?

1188
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,140
How do we share information?

1189
00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:05,980
What does it mean to coordinate high-end

1190
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:08,900
jamming capabilities like counter-precision navigation and timing?

1191
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:10,340
You don't want to shut down a commercial

1192
00:43:10,340 --> 00:43:12,360
aircraft because you're trying to take down a

1193
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:12,540
20-pound drone.

1194
00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:13,300
That's absolutely right.

1195
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:15,660
The other thing, Tom, is that we lack,

1196
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,620
and this is clearly stated and admitted by

1197
00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:20,220
our senior leaders to include the Northern Command

1198
00:43:20,220 --> 00:43:22,260
commander, General Guillo, and the Vice Chief of

1199
00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:24,520
Staff in the Army, we lack the ability

1200
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,320
to identify friend or foe at installations.

1201
00:43:27,860 --> 00:43:30,320
Domain awareness is a huge challenge for us.

1202
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Oh, yeah.

1203
00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:31,400
Yeah.

1204
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:34,200
Of course, we can't have Gene Neftulia flying

1205
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,360
his drones around and not knowing if it's

1206
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,760
a Russian.

1207
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:37,840
Oh, wait, he is a Russian.

1208
00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:41,160
And they're killer drones, too, and we sell

1209
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,400
them.

1210
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:43,900
As it relates to friendly forces, I think

1211
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:46,440
we've had some marginal success, although we still

1212
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,880
lack kit, especially in the homeland, as it

1213
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,780
relates to defeat of these capabilities.

1214
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,320
And so the JCO, through its demonstration portfolio,

1215
00:43:55,580 --> 00:43:56,660
we actually have no...

1216
00:43:56,660 --> 00:43:58,240
Demonstration portfolio?

1217
00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:00,140
Is that the sales brochure?

1218
00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:04,400
This guy loves talking like this.

1219
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,280
I love this.

1220
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:08,600
Through its demonstration portfolio, we actually have no

1221
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,920
authority to purchase anything.

1222
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,360
We're influencing industry and joint force partners to

1223
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,420
buy stuff on our behalf.

1224
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,400
But through that sort of process, we have

1225
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,340
encouraged the fielding of FS LIDS, fixed site

1226
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,920
low, slow, small, unmanned aircraft system interceptor.

1227
00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:30,860
And that has sort of a KU band

1228
00:44:30,860 --> 00:44:34,600
radar coupled with a small form factor, less

1229
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,260
costly missile called the Coyote that has proliferated

1230
00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:40,620
across Central Command based upon the threat there.

1231
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,620
And indeed, President Trump, during his recent trip

1232
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:46,480
to the Middle East, agreed upon selling 15

1233
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,980
or so of these capabilities to Qatar.

1234
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,880
Sounds a lot like the drones that were

1235
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,240
used in Russia, honestly.

1236
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,360
Autonomous, they got LIDAR, they got little bombs

1237
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:55,940
on them.

1238
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,460
Perfect.

1239
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,860
And lasers.

1240
00:44:58,180 --> 00:45:00,260
I gotta ask, are we having success with

1241
00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:02,160
lasers on UASs?

1242
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,480
I hadn't heard that, and it sounds awfully

1243
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,260
Star Wars-ish.

1244
00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:06,200
That's right.

1245
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:08,820
I think we're in the beta testing phase

1246
00:45:08,820 --> 00:45:09,620
at this point, right?

1247
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:12,040
And so what I've seen from the initial

1248
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,060
reports from CENTCOM is we need to do

1249
00:45:14,060 --> 00:45:15,800
a lot more work as it relates to

1250
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,160
that.

1251
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,380
But at this point, we're really not wasting

1252
00:45:18,380 --> 00:45:21,520
time in moving out quickly and smartly in

1253
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,620
concert with the Defense Innovation Unit on this.

1254
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:27,400
In fact, there is a forthcoming executive order

1255
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,520
or so I'm told from the Trump administration,

1256
00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:33,180
which is attempting to energize the industrial base

1257
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:37,060
in the United States to increase investment, not

1258
00:45:37,060 --> 00:45:39,060
just for homeland defense, but also force protection

1259
00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:40,280
in terms of these capabilities.

1260
00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:41,640
Money, money, money.

1261
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,780
Yeah, force protection.

1262
00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:45,720
And by the way, we've done the beta

1263
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:46,140
testing.

1264
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:47,840
It's also called war gaming.

1265
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,760
So we recently ran the largest scale tabletop

1266
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,440
exercise for five years.

1267
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,780
By the way, drone operators, you will not

1268
00:45:56,780 --> 00:45:58,440
be happy with what this guy is about

1269
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:58,900
to say.

1270
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:02,620
The JCO brought together 30 agencies as well

1271
00:46:02,620 --> 00:46:05,260
as the White House, specifically the National and

1272
00:46:05,260 --> 00:46:07,740
Homeland Security Councils, over 100 participants.

1273
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,720
And the core objective that we pursued was

1274
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:15,320
trying to understand how the JCO could best

1275
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,080
enable U.S. Northern Command to protect the

1276
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:18,440
homeland.

1277
00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:21,120
And from that, we came up with a

1278
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,000
series of five implementation decisions that we had

1279
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,480
briefed up through the Vice Chief of Staff

1280
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,480
of the Army, General Mingus, who provides our

1281
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,160
governance at the joint force level.

1282
00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:33,600
And those things consist of recommendations for better

1283
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,500
coordination with the FAA for, again, jamming capabilities.

1284
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,940
How do we coordinate in terms of sharing

1285
00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:45,540
information and intelligence with our partners, optimizing the

1286
00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:47,720
National Guard Bureau, as we've talked about, and

1287
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,780
then further is shifting the legislation to have

1288
00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:53,640
point-of-sale registration for small drones in

1289
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,120
the homeland so we can quickly identify friend

1290
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:56,660
from foe.

1291
00:46:57,420 --> 00:46:59,900
Invertible license, if you will, for a small

1292
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:00,300
drone.

1293
00:47:00,740 --> 00:47:01,400
What he just said.

1294
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,000
You'll need a license, a special license for

1295
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,720
a small drone.

1296
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,900
I'm sure you'll need your real ID to

1297
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:08,940
purchase it, and you're going into Palantir.

1298
00:47:09,140 --> 00:47:10,860
And so these things are really, really important

1299
00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:13,560
because we have shifted the conversation on policy

1300
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,580
that they're going to codify in executive orders,

1301
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,380
and indeed representatives are now talking about things

1302
00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:19,600
like, how do we define an aircraft?

1303
00:47:20,060 --> 00:47:21,920
Right now, the law makes no distinction between

1304
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,320
a manned and unmanned aircraft, and soldiers are

1305
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,000
held liable for taking down a drone as

1306
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,480
if they took down a commercial airliner.

1307
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,840
So that's the level that JCO is operating

1308
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,080
at.

1309
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,160
Dude.

1310
00:47:31,860 --> 00:47:34,480
Dude, we are a war manufacturing country.

1311
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:36,580
There's just no two ways about it.

1312
00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:39,000
And the more I think about this, and

1313
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,860
although I agreed with you on your initial

1314
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:43,920
reaction to initial response on the last episode,

1315
00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:47,720
I think the Golden Dome will be significantly

1316
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,560
different from the Iron Dome.

1317
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,580
The Iron Dome is a dome that keeps

1318
00:47:52,580 --> 00:47:57,020
out, you know, long range and, you know,

1319
00:47:57,220 --> 00:48:01,560
medium range missiles, nuclear stuff, whatever, from Russia.

1320
00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:04,520
And the Golden Dome, that'll be like a

1321
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,580
thing that's internal.

1322
00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:07,120
I think it's going to be protecting us

1323
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,240
from drones and stuff on the inside.

1324
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:11,980
This drone attack on Russia was no mistake.

1325
00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:15,800
It was a sales pitch, it was a

1326
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,120
capabilities demonstration, a tabletop exercise.

1327
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,240
I don't know what you want to call

1328
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,220
it, but this was meant to show us

1329
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:26,060
something that asymmetric warfare is here upon us,

1330
00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:27,960
and we need money to do it.

1331
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:33,960
I don't know.

1332
00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:38,220
The long presentation you just gave us.

1333
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:39,120
I did not.

1334
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,620
The presentation was like four minutes of those

1335
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:42,020
clips.

1336
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,180
But okay, over to you, Bob.

1337
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:47,560
It's an hour into the show.

1338
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,580
What are you talking about?

1339
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,480
I've given you plenty.

1340
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,620
I was talking about four different topics.

1341
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,100
I've kept long pauses for you to jump

1342
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:54,420
in.

1343
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,640
Nothing to jump in on.

1344
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,580
I didn't find it.

1345
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:01,040
For one thing, the initial topic, which I've

1346
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,100
long since forgotten.

1347
00:49:02,380 --> 00:49:03,720
Let's play some TikTok videos.

1348
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,660
That'll make you feel better.

1349
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:07,900
The first topic, which I've long since forgotten,

1350
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,540
I can't remember.

1351
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:10,420
I said that as a cue to remind

1352
00:49:10,420 --> 00:49:12,060
me what was the...

1353
00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:12,860
Oh yeah, it was...

1354
00:49:12,860 --> 00:49:13,980
No, I lost it again.

1355
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,260
It was Elon Musk.

1356
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:16,640
Yeah, Elon Musk.

1357
00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:18,040
I didn't think that was interesting.

1358
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:19,940
I'll tell you why.

1359
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,340
Like you said right at the beginning, your

1360
00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:24,100
whole thesis was that the whole thing's a

1361
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:24,840
phony deal.

1362
00:49:25,060 --> 00:49:28,000
You are disconnected from the world, my friend.

1363
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:30,640
People are flipping out over this thing.

1364
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:31,880
It is top of the news.

1365
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,440
It is what everyone is talking about, particularly

1366
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,560
our own people.

1367
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,440
You may not find it interesting.

1368
00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:37,840
Maybe in Texas.

1369
00:49:38,580 --> 00:49:40,380
It's not even brought up in the local

1370
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:41,420
news around here.

1371
00:49:41,740 --> 00:49:42,160
Wow.

1372
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:42,740
Okay.

1373
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,280
I will say, Fox plays it up.

1374
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:48,500
I don't even watch Fox.

1375
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,460
I watched the whole thing this morning, the

1376
00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:53,260
whole press conference with Trump, and I kind

1377
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:55,440
of agree that something's phony about it because

1378
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Trump does say...

1379
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,140
He said the one comment, which he didn't

1380
00:49:59,140 --> 00:50:01,840
have a clip of, which is Elon knew

1381
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,580
more about the big beautiful bill than anybody

1382
00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:06,220
here in the room, he says.

1383
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,960
Where's your clip?

1384
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,280
I didn't...

1385
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,780
I didn't think it was...

1386
00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:10,720
Where's my clip?

1387
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,120
It's where it belongs.

1388
00:50:12,380 --> 00:50:14,900
I didn't find it interesting enough to carry

1389
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:16,500
any clips for it.

1390
00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:18,440
I'm all ears for your interesting topics.

1391
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,100
But I'm backing your clips up by telling

1392
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:21,620
you some stuff that you didn't get clipped,

1393
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,700
which is that which kind of, to back

1394
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,500
your point up, your point is that this

1395
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:27,260
thing is fake.

1396
00:50:27,580 --> 00:50:29,880
Yes, but no one besides you and I

1397
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,460
see that.

1398
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,160
Trust me.

1399
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,200
And so well, I thought it was so

1400
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,160
fake that I didn't even bother with it.

1401
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,200
But I will say that Trump said that

1402
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Elon knew...

1403
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Why did he say that?

1404
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:42,680
I don't know.

1405
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,080
And thus it was something just to tell

1406
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,540
people that, hey, don't worry about it.

1407
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,600
The other thing is, he says, I don't

1408
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,940
know if we're going to be friends anymore,

1409
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:51,900
but he said that not in the way

1410
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:53,620
he normally takes on these guys.

1411
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,080
When a guy turns on him, he usually

1412
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,540
calls him an idiot or something.

1413
00:50:56,660 --> 00:50:59,600
He gives him some acronym or gives him

1414
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,640
some nasty...

1415
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,080
nasty...

1416
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:02,740
nasties him.

1417
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,160
He didn't do that at all.

1418
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,360
So the second part of my presentation came

1419
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,620
from our very own people, which was the

1420
00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:10,840
Palantir thing, which you hadn't even heard of.

1421
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,820
And that's also...

1422
00:51:13,820 --> 00:51:14,820
No, I knew that...

1423
00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:16,940
No, I had heard of something because I

1424
00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:18,780
got the same note you did about the

1425
00:51:18,780 --> 00:51:21,460
guy from Palantir talking about how the whole

1426
00:51:21,460 --> 00:51:23,840
thing is exaggerated and a crock of shit.

1427
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,560
Thus, I didn't carry any clips for it

1428
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200
because I just took his word for it

1429
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,260
because it was very credible.

1430
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,920
Hey, all I'm doing is defending my so

1431
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,200
-called presentation of you saying it was boring

1432
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,720
and no good and I took up all

1433
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:37,220
this time.

1434
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,460
I never said it was boring and no

1435
00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:39,660
good.

1436
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,980
You can't find those words in my comment.

1437
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,180
I just thought it was long.

1438
00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:50,330
I'm waiting for you to launch into something.

1439
00:51:50,490 --> 00:51:51,350
I'm all ears.

1440
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:57,270
The topics are so disparate, considering you kept

1441
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:58,290
it into this.

1442
00:51:59,090 --> 00:52:02,770
My stuff is so different that it's hard

1443
00:52:02,770 --> 00:52:03,430
to jump in there.

1444
00:52:04,430 --> 00:52:07,410
I'll play one lone clip that's got nothing

1445
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:08,470
to do with anything else but I think

1446
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:11,430
it's the most important clip I have which

1447
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:13,010
has nothing to do with any of this

1448
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:14,790
stuff you talked about or anything else we're

1449
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:15,570
going to talk about.

1450
00:52:15,930 --> 00:52:18,470
I think this is phenomenal.

1451
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:21,150
This is the Trump versus Columbia wow clip.

1452
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:24,190
The Trump administration is taking action against Columbia

1453
00:52:24,190 --> 00:52:27,110
University saying the school violated Title VI of

1454
00:52:27,110 --> 00:52:29,310
the Civil Rights Act and therefore no longer

1455
00:52:29,310 --> 00:52:31,930
meets the standards of the organization that accredits

1456
00:52:31,930 --> 00:52:32,710
the university.

1457
00:52:33,330 --> 00:52:35,810
A press release from the Education Department says

1458
00:52:35,810 --> 00:52:37,930
that its Office for Civil Rights and the

1459
00:52:37,930 --> 00:52:39,950
Department of Health and Human Services Office for

1460
00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:43,330
Civil Rights, quote, determined that Columbia University acted

1461
00:52:43,330 --> 00:52:46,790
with deliberate indifference towards the harassment of Jewish

1462
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:49,510
students since October 7th, 2023.

1463
00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:53,050
The Trump administration said today it has notified

1464
00:52:53,050 --> 00:52:55,890
the Middle States Commission on Higher Education, the

1465
00:52:55,890 --> 00:52:56,950
school's accreditor.

1466
00:52:57,530 --> 00:52:58,470
So what does that mean?

1467
00:52:58,510 --> 00:53:01,710
They're going to be discredited as a scholastic

1468
00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:02,210
institute?

1469
00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:05,250
This is no slouch of an idea.

1470
00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:07,290
This has to do with Harvard.

1471
00:53:07,930 --> 00:53:10,010
Trump went after Harvard by first going after

1472
00:53:10,010 --> 00:53:10,530
their money.

1473
00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:11,190
They got sued.

1474
00:53:11,650 --> 00:53:13,590
Then they went after Harvard by taking away

1475
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:14,650
all their foreign students.

1476
00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:16,750
They got 26% foreign students to pay

1477
00:53:16,750 --> 00:53:18,370
full tilt to get into the place.

1478
00:53:18,910 --> 00:53:20,190
They're getting sued over that.

1479
00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:23,190
Now the real salvo, the one that's the

1480
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:26,670
shot over the bow is accreditation.

1481
00:53:27,290 --> 00:53:30,870
This is the biggest possible threat you can

1482
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:31,810
make to a university.

1483
00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:34,530
You lose accreditation, you might as well just

1484
00:53:34,530 --> 00:53:35,750
close your shop.

1485
00:53:36,330 --> 00:53:39,910
Who hands out the accreditations?

1486
00:53:40,090 --> 00:53:41,630
There's a couple of groups that do it.

1487
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:43,550
There's one in particular which I think they're

1488
00:53:43,550 --> 00:53:44,250
talking to.

1489
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:46,530
I don't know the name of it offhand,

1490
00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:48,550
but if you don't have accreditation as a

1491
00:53:48,550 --> 00:53:51,590
university, you might as well close the doors.

1492
00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:54,390
That means that if I go to Cal

1493
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:57,630
and take English there and I transfer over

1494
00:53:57,630 --> 00:53:59,610
to someplace else, it's no good.

1495
00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:00,670
Cal's not accredited.

1496
00:54:00,850 --> 00:54:02,370
No, you got to start from scratch.

1497
00:54:02,550 --> 00:54:05,110
A no agenda PhD will be worth more.

1498
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:08,740
Yes.

1499
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,060
This is telling us that the no agenda

1500
00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:13,980
PhD is going to be worth as much

1501
00:54:13,980 --> 00:54:17,340
as a Columbia degree if they lose their

1502
00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:18,200
accreditation.

1503
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,200
What does he want from them?

1504
00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:23,660
I'm sure he wants something.

1505
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,160
I think now that you asked a simple

1506
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,240
question, I'm not absolutely sure anymore.

1507
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,180
I think they want these endowments.

1508
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,040
If it's the endowments, I get it.

1509
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,280
I think the idea of taxing is a

1510
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:40,680
good one.

1511
00:54:40,780 --> 00:54:43,900
I also think there is the notion that

1512
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:46,480
I've pushed on this show, which is that

1513
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,720
all these colleges and universities do is crank

1514
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,000
out Democrat voters.

1515
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,100
They're just kind of designed to do that

1516
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:53,900
and nothing else.

1517
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,300
I think there may be something there.

1518
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,820
I don't know, but this is a big

1519
00:54:58,820 --> 00:54:59,180
deal.

1520
00:55:02,690 --> 00:55:04,570
I'm sure there's meetings going on as we

1521
00:55:04,570 --> 00:55:04,970
speak.

1522
00:55:05,630 --> 00:55:07,230
People that normally would be listening to the

1523
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:08,490
show, they're meeting about this.

1524
00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:10,570
This has got to be freaking everybody out.

1525
00:55:10,790 --> 00:55:12,790
It's interesting because I got a note this

1526
00:55:12,790 --> 00:55:16,350
morning from the constitutional lawyer.

1527
00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:20,050
This may play into it.

1528
00:55:21,070 --> 00:55:24,850
The Supreme Court, this is from Law 360,

1529
00:55:24,850 --> 00:55:29,810
justices nix higher hurdle for heterosexual bias claims.

1530
00:55:32,970 --> 00:55:37,370
Supreme Court nix higher hurdle for heterosexual bias

1531
00:55:37,370 --> 00:55:37,790
claims.

1532
00:55:37,950 --> 00:55:40,450
I think this plays into it, maybe.

1533
00:55:41,170 --> 00:55:44,050
This is about Title VII and it was

1534
00:55:44,050 --> 00:55:46,550
a heterosexual woman who claimed that the Ohio

1535
00:55:46,550 --> 00:55:49,690
Youth Services Department discriminated against her because she

1536
00:55:49,690 --> 00:55:52,410
is not LGBTQ+.

1537
00:55:52,410 --> 00:55:56,230
The Sixth Circuit had ruled that heterosexuals must

1538
00:55:56,230 --> 00:56:02,650
produce additional evidence demonstrating extra background circumstances in

1539
00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:05,310
order to establish this prima facie case.

1540
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:09,110
LGBTQ plus employees did not bear this burden.

1541
00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:13,650
So SCOTUS unanimously rejected the Sixth Course rationale,

1542
00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:15,730
which means this is not just for sexual

1543
00:56:15,730 --> 00:56:16,470
orientation.

1544
00:56:17,330 --> 00:56:20,450
This will mean that basically reverse racism is

1545
00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:21,890
real and you can't do it.

1546
00:56:23,350 --> 00:56:25,770
That's what this decision is saying.

1547
00:56:27,010 --> 00:56:28,530
And I think this plays into a lot

1548
00:56:28,530 --> 00:56:32,590
of these universities because they are, all they

1549
00:56:32,590 --> 00:56:36,090
do is reverse racism, which is racism.

1550
00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:37,550
Which is racism, yeah.

1551
00:56:37,710 --> 00:56:38,970
The term is bad.

1552
00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:39,850
It's a bad term.

1553
00:56:40,910 --> 00:56:42,430
But people at least understand it.

1554
00:56:43,850 --> 00:56:45,830
A lot of this plays into it.

1555
00:56:46,530 --> 00:56:47,170
I don't know.

1556
00:56:48,730 --> 00:56:51,270
It's a question that we should try to

1557
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:54,870
figure out because this battle between the Trump

1558
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:58,290
administration and these big Ivy League colleges in

1559
00:56:58,290 --> 00:56:58,830
particular.

1560
00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:04,670
First of all, the tuition fees are outrageous

1561
00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:07,570
because of the basically free government money which

1562
00:57:07,570 --> 00:57:10,110
puts everybody into jail, into a debt jail,

1563
00:57:10,270 --> 00:57:13,330
debtor's jail, which you can't get out of.

1564
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:15,490
It never used to be that way.

1565
00:57:15,490 --> 00:57:16,910
Even with bankruptcy.

1566
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:20,050
When they didn't have the free money, these

1567
00:57:20,050 --> 00:57:21,270
tuitions were reasonable.

1568
00:57:21,490 --> 00:57:25,090
And they have money through these large tax

1569
00:57:25,090 --> 00:57:27,690
-free endowments which are tax-free to use

1570
00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:29,430
them and tax-free to donate to them.

1571
00:57:29,530 --> 00:57:32,110
Or they create a tax advantage to donate

1572
00:57:32,110 --> 00:57:32,570
to them.

1573
00:57:33,250 --> 00:57:35,090
Especially if you can use that money for

1574
00:57:35,090 --> 00:57:37,530
your own good on the back end.

1575
00:57:37,950 --> 00:57:39,470
The endowments for this.

1576
00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:43,210
So that would be a pro for the

1577
00:57:43,210 --> 00:57:43,810
American people.

1578
00:57:45,110 --> 00:57:47,030
And maybe they'll improve their education.

1579
00:57:48,050 --> 00:57:49,390
Yeah, well that's pretty amazing.

1580
00:57:49,470 --> 00:57:50,410
What are your Harvard clips?

1581
00:57:52,050 --> 00:57:53,470
Do I have Harvard clips on here?

1582
00:57:53,490 --> 00:57:53,930
Yeah, you got two.

1583
00:57:54,070 --> 00:57:55,630
I thought you were leading right into it.

1584
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:58,190
I'm leading right into the Harvard clips but

1585
00:57:58,190 --> 00:58:00,030
this is really not that connected.

1586
00:58:00,190 --> 00:58:02,530
This is just a follow-up on Trump

1587
00:58:02,530 --> 00:58:04,390
versus Harvard which I still think is the

1588
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:05,270
real target here.

1589
00:58:05,530 --> 00:58:07,450
Topic that has driven headlines for the last

1590
00:58:07,450 --> 00:58:07,930
two months.

1591
00:58:08,110 --> 00:58:09,770
Trump versus Harvard University.

1592
00:58:10,030 --> 00:58:11,890
The bout began in late March when a

1593
00:58:11,890 --> 00:58:14,390
federal anti-Semitism task force said it would

1594
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:17,290
investigate Harvard's administrative and academic policies.

1595
00:58:18,130 --> 00:58:20,590
Trump let off his attack with accusations of

1596
00:58:20,590 --> 00:58:22,990
the school not doing enough to combat anti

1597
00:58:22,990 --> 00:58:26,430
-Semitism on campus, but also for continuing diversity,

1598
00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:30,410
equity, and inclusion, or DEI, policies in its

1599
00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:32,190
admissions, curriculum, and hiring.

1600
00:58:32,810 --> 00:58:34,770
He also alleged that Harvard is too left

1601
00:58:34,770 --> 00:58:37,510
-wing and no longer prioritizes merit in higher

1602
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:39,470
education to the same degree it did in

1603
00:58:39,470 --> 00:58:39,910
the past.

1604
00:58:40,690 --> 00:58:42,510
Trump followed up the barrage with a list

1605
00:58:42,510 --> 00:58:43,090
of demands.

1606
00:58:43,450 --> 00:58:45,710
Those included a ban on masks, limits to

1607
00:58:45,710 --> 00:58:48,230
campus protests, and a review of any potential

1608
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:50,430
biases in various academic departments.

1609
00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:53,170
The president also froze all federal funding to

1610
00:58:53,170 --> 00:58:55,130
the university until his demands are met.

1611
00:58:55,970 --> 00:58:58,310
Harvard retaliated in April by saying it would

1612
00:58:58,310 --> 00:59:01,510
not surrender its independence or relinquish its constitutional

1613
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:01,990
rights.

1614
00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:04,770
The university has sued the Trump administration to

1615
00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:07,010
unfreeze the billions in federal grant money that

1616
00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:08,190
it could inevitably lose.

1617
00:59:08,890 --> 00:59:11,130
Harvard has argued that Trump is impeding its

1618
00:59:11,130 --> 00:59:13,730
ability to conduct research important for the entire

1619
00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:17,670
country, including medical breakthroughs and scientific discoveries.

1620
00:59:18,590 --> 00:59:21,230
Trump countered in May by directing the Department

1621
00:59:21,230 --> 00:59:24,710
of Homeland Security, or DHS, to shut down

1622
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:27,770
Harvard's foreign student enrollment indefinitely.

1623
00:59:28,490 --> 00:59:31,750
DHS alleged Harvard was coordinating with the Chinese

1624
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:32,510
Communist Party.

1625
00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:34,410
What news outlet is this?

1626
00:59:36,050 --> 00:59:36,530
Ugh.

1627
00:59:37,210 --> 00:59:37,690
No.

1628
00:59:38,090 --> 00:59:39,410
It sounds like AI.

1629
00:59:40,730 --> 00:59:41,490
Yeah, it does.

1630
00:59:41,570 --> 00:59:43,350
It could make it a little more exciting,

1631
00:59:43,570 --> 00:59:43,950
at least.

1632
00:59:46,310 --> 00:59:48,030
So you see the four...

1633
00:59:48,030 --> 00:59:50,610
It's possible, after listening to this Columbia clip,

1634
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:55,950
that Harvard's being set up because Harvard keeps

1635
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:57,910
deflecting...

1636
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:58,410
No, no, no.

1637
00:59:58,950 --> 01:00:01,430
You're taking money away from medical research.

1638
01:00:01,510 --> 01:00:02,390
They've got plenty of money.

1639
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:04,870
You're taking money, you know, $400 million is

1640
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:05,550
nothing to Harvard.

1641
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,580
No, hold on a second.

1642
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:12,940
Sorry.

1643
01:00:12,940 --> 01:00:14,260
Yeah, you dropped out.

1644
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:16,020
$400 million is nothing to Harvard?

1645
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,860
No, $400 million is nothing to Harvard when

1646
01:00:18,860 --> 01:00:21,440
they have $50 billion sitting in their endowment,

1647
01:00:21,580 --> 01:00:22,700
and they can get money from it.

1648
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:25,380
And the money is research for drug companies

1649
01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:27,140
that can easily spend that.

1650
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:29,980
I mean, we had a list of the

1651
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,280
recently, I think we mentioned on the show,

1652
01:00:32,420 --> 01:00:33,680
you know, these...

1653
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,060
I think Pfizer, not Pfizer, but all the

1654
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:37,860
big boys, Johnson & Johnson being at the

1655
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:38,840
top of the list, I think they did

1656
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,280
$18 billion in profits in one year.

1657
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:44,460
And all these companies are in the billions

1658
01:00:44,460 --> 01:00:46,340
and billions, so the $400 million in research

1659
01:00:46,340 --> 01:00:48,140
for something or other that's going to benefit

1660
01:00:48,140 --> 01:00:50,420
a drug company can be picked up by

1661
01:00:50,420 --> 01:00:51,160
the drug companies.

1662
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,380
Why are the taxpayers picking it up?

1663
01:00:53,420 --> 01:00:54,960
We're not getting benefited from it.

1664
01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:58,140
It's kind of a benefit, but it's the

1665
01:00:58,140 --> 01:00:59,700
drug companies that make the money off of

1666
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:00,480
it, so what's the point?

1667
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,140
I think they're maybe setting them up because

1668
01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:04,700
they're going to not do anything about the

1669
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:05,480
Jewish issue.

1670
01:01:05,780 --> 01:01:08,600
They can pull the plug on their accreditation.

1671
01:01:09,180 --> 01:01:10,980
Yeah, that would be the big deal, is

1672
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:11,460
part two.

1673
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,820
Most recently, though, the school defended its foreign

1674
01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:17,940
enrollment saying, quote, Harvard is not Harvard without

1675
01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:19,880
its international students, end quote.

1676
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,720
This has played out in court, as Sam

1677
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,440
indicated, with a judge this week extending a

1678
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,440
temporary block on DHS from preventing Harvard's enrollment

1679
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,340
of foreign students.

1680
01:01:29,340 --> 01:01:31,940
And the government has also given the school

1681
01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:34,700
30 days to respond to the Homeland Security

1682
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:35,740
Department's actions.

1683
01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:39,240
In terms of answering Trump's demands, Harvard has

1684
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,640
established task forces to investigate both anti-Semitic

1685
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,840
and anti-Islamic activities, while also suggesting they

1686
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,560
would at least try to diversify political opinion

1687
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,200
on campus.

1688
01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:54,780
But will NDEI ban masks and submit to

1689
01:01:54,780 --> 01:01:55,780
immigration authorities?

1690
01:01:56,460 --> 01:01:57,220
Unlikely.

1691
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,760
Nonetheless, the federal funds are still frozen.

1692
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:03,360
And Harvard is not happy about that.

1693
01:02:03,980 --> 01:02:05,720
Well, just use your tens of billions of

1694
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,380
dollars in endowments, Trump says.

1695
01:02:08,060 --> 01:02:10,680
Harvard fired back saying it is relying on

1696
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,660
all the interest that comes from those endowments

1697
01:02:12,660 --> 01:02:15,060
being invested to fund the university.

1698
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,340
As a business mogul, Trump knows that principle,

1699
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:18,640
right?

1700
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,940
And that really gets down to the question,

1701
01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:22,500
does Trump have the right to do this

1702
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:23,280
with federal funds?

1703
01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:26,220
Is it constitutional to punish a school or

1704
01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:28,680
its students for their free speech, even if

1705
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,380
the president doesn't agree with that speech?

1706
01:02:30,660 --> 01:02:33,920
Trump's alleging that, basically, taxpayer money is funding

1707
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,920
DEI and left-wing thinking at one of

1708
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,640
the country's most elite universities.

1709
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,580
On the other hand, Harvard is saying it

1710
01:02:40,580 --> 01:02:42,580
has a constitutional right and needs the funding

1711
01:02:42,580 --> 01:02:43,660
for critical research.

1712
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,520
Critical research.

1713
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:48,440
Yeah.

1714
01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:51,600
Those clips, you're right.

1715
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,500
The guy's a boring presenter.

1716
01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:54,100
Yes.

1717
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:58,680
If you want, President Trump, the administration has

1718
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,260
taken away more money from the medical community,

1719
01:03:01,820 --> 01:03:06,280
and it brought out the spokesholes, who are

1720
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,340
usually doctors, to say that he's crazy.

1721
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,500
Interested?

1722
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:14,580
Of course.

1723
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:15,260
Just checking.

1724
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:18,120
In other vaccine news, the Trump administration has

1725
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,240
canceled the U.S. government's contract with Moderna

1726
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,000
to develop a vaccine for bird flu.

1727
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,000
Oh, no.

1728
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:26,940
The recent strain of the avian flu arrived

1729
01:03:26,940 --> 01:03:28,860
in the U.S. in 2022, and it's

1730
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:31,400
led to the deaths of over 170 million

1731
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,460
birds, resulting in a nationwide spike in egg

1732
01:03:34,460 --> 01:03:34,860
prices.

1733
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,520
Get ready, because Dr. Vin Gupta is going

1734
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,580
to tell you why it's nuts.

1735
01:03:38,820 --> 01:03:40,860
Not the eggs thing again.

1736
01:03:40,940 --> 01:03:41,220
Oh, no.

1737
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:43,780
Eggs, that's just the beginning.

1738
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,240
The flu infected more than 1,000 herds

1739
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,840
of cattle, as well as 70 people.

1740
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,160
Although this strain is not yet highly contagious

1741
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,760
for humans, infectious disease experts worry the next

1742
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,920
pandemic could indeed come from an avian flu.

1743
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,520
So, Dr. Gupta, we have seen this administration

1744
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,200
slash funding for so much in the way

1745
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,660
of research and development, including people thought were

1746
01:04:06,660 --> 01:04:11,040
very promising HIV treatments, vaccines there, and now

1747
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:11,960
this avian flu.

1748
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,000
Give us your sense on this one, because,

1749
01:04:14,220 --> 01:04:17,100
as we just said, there are experts who

1750
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:20,140
think the next big, terrible pandemic might come

1751
01:04:20,140 --> 01:04:21,060
from exactly this.

1752
01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:23,880
Big, terrible pandemic is the, I guess that's

1753
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,800
the counterweight to the big, beautiful bill.

1754
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,600
We've got to throw something out there.

1755
01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:30,360
The next big, terrible pandemic might come from

1756
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,120
exactly this.

1757
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,000
What's the point here?

1758
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:32,680
Why are they doing this?

1759
01:04:32,820 --> 01:04:33,060
Why?

1760
01:04:33,180 --> 01:04:33,900
Why are they doing it?

1761
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,580
Again, I'm not sure this is even consistent

1762
01:04:37,580 --> 01:04:41,080
with President Trump's view of wise investments in

1763
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:41,900
biomedical research.

1764
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,220
Remember Operation Warp Speed, probably his signature achievement.

1765
01:04:45,220 --> 01:04:46,520
Don't you love that?

1766
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,760
Having a Moderna contract as a wise investment

1767
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,040
in medical research?

1768
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,040
Really?

1769
01:04:53,420 --> 01:04:55,080
During the COVID pandemic and in his first

1770
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,340
term.

1771
01:04:55,780 --> 01:04:59,140
I wonder how much he's clued in to

1772
01:04:59,140 --> 01:05:00,660
exactly what's happening here.

1773
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,900
I don't think you can scam Trump twice.

1774
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:03,520
I'm sorry?

1775
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,220
I don't think you can scam Trump twice.

1776
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,340
He was scammed, Operation Warp Speed.

1777
01:05:09,140 --> 01:05:10,880
The joke of that, of course, is that

1778
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,840
he buys into the whole thing, lets them

1779
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,080
go off on their merry way with government

1780
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,360
money, and then they hold back until after

1781
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,000
the election.

1782
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,120
So it makes sure Biden gets in.

1783
01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:24,060
That's a thank you very much.

1784
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,280
I wonder how much he's clued in to

1785
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,560
exactly what's happening here, even from his prior

1786
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,120
precedents.

1787
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,900
This doesn't really make any sense.

1788
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,960
For all your viewers out there to keep

1789
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,440
in mind, what's happening is there's a promising

1790
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,540
phase one, phase two, early stage vaccine candidate

1791
01:05:45,540 --> 01:05:46,620
for avian flu.

1792
01:05:47,020 --> 01:05:49,380
Bird flu, that is changing exactly as you

1793
01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:51,580
point out, Jonathan, right before our eyes.

1794
01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:53,980
It went from birds to cattle to mountain

1795
01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:54,420
lions.

1796
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,240
Mountain lions?

1797
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,560
It went from birds to cattle to mountain

1798
01:05:59,560 --> 01:05:59,960
lions.

1799
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:00,820
Humans are next.

1800
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,340
What happened to the bats and the pangolins?

1801
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,420
Changing exactly as you point out, Jonathan.

1802
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,900
Right before our eyes.

1803
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,300
It went from birds to cattle to mountain

1804
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:09,760
lions.

1805
01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:11,700
I mean, this thing is changing at a

1806
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:12,860
speed we haven't seen before.

1807
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,140
We're worried that the next pandemic is not

1808
01:06:16,140 --> 01:06:17,520
a matter of if, but when.

1809
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,140
And it's likely going to be flu that's

1810
01:06:20,140 --> 01:06:20,600
changing.

1811
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,420
Flu that's changing.

1812
01:06:23,940 --> 01:06:25,280
I'm telling you.

1813
01:06:26,660 --> 01:06:28,860
By the way, President Trump is truthing.

1814
01:06:29,180 --> 01:06:29,820
He's truthing.

1815
01:06:31,180 --> 01:06:31,820
As we speak.

1816
01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:33,820
Here, two truths.

1817
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,500
The easiest way to save money in our

1818
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:38,680
budget, billions and billions of dollars, is to

1819
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,520
terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.

1820
01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:44,160
I was always surprised that Biden didn't do

1821
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:44,380
it.

1822
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,380
Elon was wearing thin.

1823
01:06:46,620 --> 01:06:48,180
I asked him to leave.

1824
01:06:48,540 --> 01:06:50,740
I took away his EV mandate that forced

1825
01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:53,020
everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else

1826
01:06:53,020 --> 01:06:53,400
wanted.

1827
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,700
He knew that for months.

1828
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,220
And he knew I was going to do

1829
01:06:56,220 --> 01:06:56,360
it.

1830
01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:57,760
And he just went crazy.

1831
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,320
Come on.

1832
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Oh.

1833
01:07:05,540 --> 01:07:07,560
Well, back to the bird flu.

1834
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,620
So I have to bring back this is

1835
01:07:11,620 --> 01:07:14,260
a reminiscence, but this is by, I have

1836
01:07:14,260 --> 01:07:15,980
a bunch of clips from Thomas Massey.

1837
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:16,600
He was on.

1838
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,820
He's mad.

1839
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,960
He was on this guy's show, this Brit,

1840
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,820
I got WMS, it's I can't remember what

1841
01:07:26,820 --> 01:07:27,160
it stands for.

1842
01:07:27,340 --> 01:07:27,860
WMS?

1843
01:07:27,860 --> 01:07:29,680
Yeah, well, that's the guy.

1844
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:32,660
It's William or Bill or something.

1845
01:07:33,260 --> 01:07:34,600
I had to go look him up.

1846
01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:36,120
It's on a piece of notepad.

1847
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,020
But this guy's got a podcast.

1848
01:07:38,260 --> 01:07:39,940
We're supposed to do more podcasting stuff and

1849
01:07:39,940 --> 01:07:40,640
we're doing it.

1850
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,300
And Massey has a story about the COVID

1851
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:48,980
vaccine, which I don't know if we've heard

1852
01:07:48,980 --> 01:07:51,660
in these words so much, because he did

1853
01:07:51,660 --> 01:07:52,320
an investigation.

1854
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,520
He had a committee on it about how

1855
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,760
it got its authorizations and all the rest

1856
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,240
of it.

1857
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,260
And I think it's good to follow that

1858
01:08:05,260 --> 01:08:06,660
bird flu clip with this.

1859
01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:08,640
If the tariffs increase the prices, they're going

1860
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:09,460
to be annoyed by that.

1861
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,660
But I think the ideas behind tariffs, which

1862
01:08:11,660 --> 01:08:13,860
even Trump would probably agree with, it's not

1863
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:16,540
going to be an easy start, but eventually

1864
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:18,319
they want to get to a place where

1865
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:20,319
people have more money because the industries are

1866
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:20,920
back in America.

1867
01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:23,200
But what if we're not good at making

1868
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:23,740
socks?

1869
01:08:24,140 --> 01:08:26,600
What clip are you playing?

1870
01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:30,359
Massey on WMS.  It says WMS Massey and

1871
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:31,359
it says on socks.

1872
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:32,660
I mean, I don't know what you're doing.

1873
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,359
You don't have Massey COVID?

1874
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,520
I was looking at WMS.  That was the

1875
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,580
clue you gave me.

1876
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,640
It says WMS on that clip too.

1877
01:08:44,060 --> 01:08:45,939
WMS at the end of my clip.

1878
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:46,680
I got it.

1879
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:49,120
You must know this.

1880
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,279
At the end of the clip, I put

1881
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,300
a code that tells me where the clip

1882
01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:54,220
came from.

1883
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,779
Like BBC or NTD.

1884
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,920
I'll tell you exactly how this happened.

1885
01:09:03,460 --> 01:09:05,800
You have two clips, Massey on committees.

1886
01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:08,560
Massey is all uppercase, which to me means

1887
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:09,100
important.

1888
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,340
No, that's never been true.

1889
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,680
Underneath that, so when my eye goes down

1890
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:17,279
the list.

1891
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,399
I understand how it happens.

1892
01:09:19,660 --> 01:09:20,580
It's a long list.

1893
01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:22,640
These clips lists are long and people don't

1894
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,859
understand what a mess this, you know, the

1895
01:09:24,859 --> 01:09:26,180
back end of the show is.

1896
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,300
I'm surprised you spelled Massey right.

1897
01:09:28,899 --> 01:09:31,800
Let me play the right clip.

1898
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,700
Wait, before you do that.

1899
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,700
Well, this socks clip is interesting, but it's

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got nothing to do with COVID.

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I see.

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It's literally it's my parsing of the list.

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It is all on me.

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That's on me, bro.

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My bad.

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Here we go.

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Okay, here we go with you bad.

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And this is the discussion.

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This is I don't know.

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After you play this clip, tell me if

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we knew this.

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Okay.

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Well, something good happened this week, actually.

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And I think it's because of RFK Jr.

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being head of the Health and Human Services.

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Under the Biden administration, the scientists, the vaccine

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scientists at the FDA were pressured to skip

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steps, ignore data, skip the step where a

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review panel, outside review panel reviews their authorization.

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Emergency authorization.

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This was for the so they needed to

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go from emergency use to a full licensure

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in order to mandate the vaccine.

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And so the scientists were told that they

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needed to take the political position and to

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accelerate the full approval process, not just the

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EUA.

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And the scientists were also told, you need

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to do an EUA for the boosters.

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And the scientists pressed back and said, we

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need more time to give it the full

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licensure, and we don't think everybody needs a

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booster.

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That was the top vaccine scientist, Marion Gruber

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at FDA, and her deputy, Philip Krause.

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They were forced out of the FDA under

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the Biden administration and left mysteriously under a

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cloud, didn't say a lot.

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I brought them in.

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I was chairman of a subcommittee on regulatory

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reform.

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I brought them in, each for five hours,

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deposed them, found out that their boss, Peter

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Marks, was the bad guy, because after he

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pushed them out, he took their job responsibilities

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himself and approved the vaccine.

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He wasn't even a vaccine scientist.

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He was like their manager.

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Instead of replacing them, he took their job

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and just got it done.

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He left the FDA this week.

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By the way, after deposing them, I held

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a hearing and called one of them as

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a witness and some other people as witnesses

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and exposed what had happened.

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I was frustrated that this man, Peter Marks,

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was still at the FDA, but now he's

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gone this week.

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Was it the FDA or the CDC?

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I thought it was maybe it was FDA.

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Did we know that story?

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Not like that.

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I do recall Peter Marks all of a

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sudden moving to the forefront, but no.

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Man, there's so much that happened back then.

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It's all scam-ish.

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Oh, what?

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Well...

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And it's still going on with this bird

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flu nonsense and with the clip you just

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played.

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I mean, if that doesn't sound like another

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setup for just wasting taxpayers' money and then

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suckering people into getting a shot that they

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don't need, I don't know what is.

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Why has there been nothing done?

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There's a big backlash going on about the

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fact that Kennedy has not pulled the COVID

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mRNA shots off the market.

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Yes, here is Jen Psaki.

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So it turns out running a vast science

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-based healthcare bureaucracy is a lot harder than

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being an eccentric nepo-baby who feeds conspiracy

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theories to get attention.

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Eccentric nepo-baby.

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I thought that was pretty good.

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She's done too, by the way.

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Her ratings are off of...

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She took over Rachel's slot and her numbers

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are down 47%.

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They're going to get rid of her.

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Well, they've rolled out their new lineup, actually.

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The new lineup.

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And she's already been reduced to four days

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a week.

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Here is the promo for The Briefing.

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MSNBC's Jen Psaki, host of The Briefing.

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We've never experienced a moment like this in

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our country.

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And it leaves us all with a choice.

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Are we going to speak out, or are

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we going to be pressured into silence?

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I've worked for presidents.

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I've faced the tough questions from the press

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and even threats from the Kremlin.

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And if there's one thing I've learned, it's

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that you can't cower to bullies.

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We don't need to be hopeless.

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We have our voices.

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And I will continue using mine.

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The Briefing with Jen Psaki.

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Tuesday through Friday at 9 p.m. Eastern

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on MSNBC.

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They're promoting her.

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They're trying to get her some viewership.

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She's toast.

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Yeah.

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So they are continuing with the COVID fear

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-mongering.

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We have a summer spike.

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This comes...

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We have a summer spike.

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It's that beta thing.

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A new COVID variant has health experts paying

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close attention.

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The NB181 is spreading quickly in other parts

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of the world.

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It has been tracked in several states, including

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Virginia.

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The state epidemiologist is not sounding the alarm.

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We've built up a lot of immunity to

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COVID.

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Although there's no reason to believe this variant

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will lead to more severe illness than previous

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variants, she says it will likely cause an

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increase in summer cases.

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She recommends getting vaccinated, especially if you are

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in a more vulnerable group.

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I think what I think about with any

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vaccine, but particularly a COVID vaccine, or including

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a COVID vaccine, I should say, is that

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we want those people who are most vulnerable

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to more severe complications, hospitalization, even death, that

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they are the ones that are protected.

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And that includes the elderly and people with

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pre-existing conditions.

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U.S. Health Secretary Robert F.

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Kennedy Jr. just removed the COVID vaccine CDC

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recommendations for healthy pregnant women and healthy children,

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prompting the CDC doctor who oversees recommendations to

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resign.

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Oh, well, that's good.

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Rats are leaving the ship.

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,100
What?

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01:15:37,540 --> 01:15:37,640
Who?

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,620
They weren't resigning?

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Some CDC director resigned.

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Let me see.

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Director resigns.

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This is...

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Here we go.

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Reuters.

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Oh, well.

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Pediatric infectious disease expert Dr. Lakshmi.

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Do we even hear of Lakshmi?

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Well, now we have.

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Well, he resigned of a CDC working group

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that advises outside experts.

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So that report was somewhat specious, as you

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would say.

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Maybe a good time to remind people that

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if you hear the following type of language

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in your mainstream media, your M5M, that means

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that they've finally gotten there.

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This is a little throwback or callback to

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where we were.

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We want to make sure that people can

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discern the truth from the misinformation.

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And we want to make sure that everyone

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understands that no one's safe until everyone's safe.

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No one is safe.

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No one is safe.

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Nobody's safe.

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No one is safe from COVID-19 until

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everyone is safe.

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If the whole world isn't safe, none of

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us are safe.

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Nobody is safe.

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Until we're all safe.

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Health experts have been saying nobody is safe.

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Nobody is safe until everybody is safe.

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What a psyop when you think about it.

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The whole idea that everyone has to be

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vaccinated because an unvaccinated person can hurt a

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vaccinated person.

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It was so unbelievable.

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I remember us just at the time going

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like, what is this logic?

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If this thing is safe and effective, then

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it doesn't matter if someone's unvaccinated next to

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you.

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But no, nobody's safe until everybody's safe.

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Science is clear.

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There is no safety.

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No one is safe until everyone is safe.

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Nobody is safe.

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Nobody's safe.

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Until we're all safe.

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We are never going to be safe.

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99.5% of people are safe and

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will survive COVID-19.

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The only positive thing out of this is

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we should be able to manufacture a lot

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of vaccines and nobody will be safe if

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not everybody is vaccinated.

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You don't have a choice.

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As long as not everybody is vaccinated, nobody

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will be safe.

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Normalcy only returns when we want it.

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I can't go through the whole thing.

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It's triggering.

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Sounds like it goes on for days.

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Oh, it goes on another minute and a

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half.

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I don't think we need to hear it.

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It's in the show notes.

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Everyone can listen to it at their own

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leisure.

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And then one of the things that we

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got excoriated for was pregnant women and menstrual

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cycles and all of this stuff.

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And this OBGYN, Dr. James Thorpe, I think

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this was one of those Ron Johnson small

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room in the Capitol to the fake hearing.

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I'm going to go testify before Congress.

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Wait, what room is this?

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It's in the gym at the Washington High

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School.

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Here he is.

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This deception was institutionalized in the now infamous

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Shimabukuro study published on April 21, 2021 in

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the digital version of the New England Journal

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of Medicine.

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21 authors claim the miscarriage rate was 12

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.6%, but the raw data revealed an 82

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% miscarriage rate.

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Remember that when people were like, you don't

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understand the numbers.

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You're not seeing it right.

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It's not 80, it's 12%.

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It was 12.6%, but the raw data

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revealed an 82% miscarriage rate in women

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vaccinated during the first trimester.

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This figure mirrors the effects of chemical abortion

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drugs such as RU486.

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Also, in the same journal edition on the

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same day, an op-ed appeared by CDC

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Director Rochelle Walensky and Journal Editor-in-Chief

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Eric Rubin.

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These publications were riddled with conflicts of interest

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and deliberate misrepresentations intended to coerce pregnant women

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into taking vaccines.

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Subsequent studies have also claimed that COVID-19

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vaccines are safe and effective during pregnancy and

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have been rebuked by respected researchers.

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These publications are fundamentally compromised by serious conflicts

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of interest ranging from biased funding sources and

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institutional mandates and even threats to their medical

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licenses and board certifications.

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Between 2020 and 2022, pharmaceutical companies paid $1

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.06 billion to reviewers at leading medical journals,

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01:20:24,980 --> 01:20:27,440
the New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, Lancet,

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01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,880
and BMJ, thus corrupting the peer review process.

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,800
At least six existing studies, three from CDC,

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01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,600
FDA, and two from Pfizer, revealed major breaches

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01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,240
in safety signals for COVID-19 vaccines in

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01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:43,760
pregnancy.

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01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,200
Well, well, well.

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01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,920
We just played a clip in the last

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01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,500
show from one of the networks pushing the

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01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:53,300
COVID vaccine on pregnant women.

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01:20:53,660 --> 01:20:55,780
Oh, well, if you want to hear NPR,

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01:20:56,180 --> 01:20:57,660
I'm happy to play it for you.

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01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:58,300
This is new.

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01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,060
The Trump administration is making it more difficult

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01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:03,700
for healthy children and healthy pregnant women to

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01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:06,600
get the COVID vaccine and that is worrying.

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01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:07,900
How is it more difficult?

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01:21:08,220 --> 01:21:09,960
How is he making it more difficult?

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01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:12,080
You walk in and you say, I want

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01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:12,560
the shot.

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01:21:13,540 --> 01:21:16,240
They make it sound like it has to

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01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,200
go to a back alley.

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01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,840
It's coat hanger time once again.

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01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,940
No, no, not at all.

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01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,400
The pregnant women to get the COVID vaccine

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,660
and that is worrying parents, younger adults, and

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01:21:26,660 --> 01:21:28,540
pregnant women who still want the shot.

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01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:31,840
NPR health correspondent Rob Stein They want the

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01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:32,060
shot.

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01:21:32,300 --> 01:21:33,140
They want the shot.

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01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:33,760
Yes.

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01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,140
Lauren Capetti was relaxing with her husband at

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01:21:37,140 --> 01:21:39,440
their home in Cincinnati when she heard about

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01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:42,000
the new recommendations for who should get a

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01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:42,760
COVID vaccine.

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01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,460
I would sit on my couch watching the

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01:21:44,460 --> 01:21:44,760
news.

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,760
I was just like, what is happening?

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01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:47,820
I started crying.

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01:21:47,980 --> 01:21:50,500
I was like, they're not recommending it for

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01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:51,660
pregnant women anymore.

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:56,700
I was crying because I wanted so bad.

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01:21:56,780 --> 01:21:57,760
I was crying.

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01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,540
This is a bogus report.

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01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:02,280
What's happening?

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01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:03,320
Am I not going to be able to

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:03,980
get this vaccine?

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01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:05,160
I'm not going to be able to get

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01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:05,680
this vaccine.

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01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,640
No one said that.

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01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:08,260
Why?

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,360
That's absolutely terrifying.

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01:22:12,580 --> 01:22:14,940
It's absolutely terrifying, John.

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01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:18,180
The whole premise is bogus.

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01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,500
The whole premise is false and where did

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01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:21,120
they get that from?

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01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,180
Probably from NPR.

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01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:22,980
Why?

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01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:23,440
Why?

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01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:26,080
That's absolutely terrifying.

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01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,460
Terrifying because the 30-year-old Ohio State

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01:22:29,460 --> 01:22:32,500
worker is about five months pregnant, but the

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01:22:32,500 --> 01:22:35,540
CDC is no longer recommending the shots for

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01:22:35,540 --> 01:22:36,820
healthy pregnant women.

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,760
I don't want to get COVID while I'm

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,040
pregnant.

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01:22:39,460 --> 01:22:41,300
I don't want it to hurt my child.

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01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:43,460
I don't want to have a premature birth.

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01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,360
I just know that there's complications that come

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01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,140
along with it, so that does scare me.

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01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:49,700
She also knows that the only way to

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01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:52,560
protect her newborn baby is by getting vaccinated

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01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:53,400
herself.

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01:22:53,900 --> 01:22:55,780
Not only does it protect me while I'm

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01:22:55,780 --> 01:22:58,720
pregnant, but it does help the child once

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01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,100
they're born in their first few months of

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01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:02,820
life when they have zero immunity to it

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01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:03,220
whatsoever.

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01:23:04,340 --> 01:23:05,440
That's important to me.

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01:23:05,580 --> 01:23:07,080
I want my child to have access to

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01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:07,280
that.

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01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:09,920
This NPR program is brought to you by

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01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,240
Pfizer and people like you.

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,220
Isn't that incredible?

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01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:16,900
With all the little inserts.

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01:23:17,780 --> 01:23:20,100
Oh yeah, she doesn't want something to happen

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01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:20,940
to her baby.

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01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,820
I like the fact that she's in tears.

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01:23:23,260 --> 01:23:23,840
There's more.

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01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:26,740
And Rachel Sampler-Zelaya is worried too.

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,400
She's 42 and lives in College Grove, Minnesota.

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01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:30,780
This guy has a...

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01:23:31,780 --> 01:23:34,920
He has lost evidence that he had brain

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01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:35,220
tumors.

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01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,500
Her six-year-old daughter has asthma.

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01:23:38,900 --> 01:23:40,900
So she wants to keep getting herself, her

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01:23:40,900 --> 01:23:43,980
husband, and their two other healthy kids vaccinated

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01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:45,460
to protect her too.

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01:23:45,780 --> 01:23:48,020
But the new policies could make it harder

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01:23:48,020 --> 01:23:49,300
for the rest of the family.

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01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,440
This is exactly...

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01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:58,160
This is propaganda, indoctrination, untruth, coming from the

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01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,700
national public radio.

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01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,860
It's not harder to get it.

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01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:05,100
In fact, we learned that insurance companies still

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01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:07,080
cover it, will continue to cover it.

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01:24:07,580 --> 01:24:08,920
So it's just not true.

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01:24:09,260 --> 01:24:11,800
I'm angry, angry, frustrated.

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01:24:12,260 --> 01:24:14,640
And she's not just angry and frustrated because

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01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,880
she's worried about protecting her daughter.

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01:24:18,220 --> 01:24:20,260
She wants to shield the whole family.

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01:24:20,700 --> 01:24:21,720
It's not just a cold.

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01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,120
It affects the vascular system, the neurological system,

2285
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:27,240
the immune system.

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01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:28,800
Oh, you mean the shot or the COVID

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01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,200
itself?

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01:24:29,220 --> 01:24:29,800
I'm confused.

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01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,760
And even mild cases have the potential to

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01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,960
develop into long COVID.

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01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:38,700
You know, the brain fog, the memory, the

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01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:39,220
fatigue.

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01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,660
We vaccinate for far less and this is

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01:24:43,660 --> 01:24:46,020
definitely a disease to me that needs to

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01:24:46,020 --> 01:24:47,220
be vaccinated for.

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01:24:47,460 --> 01:24:50,160
She says suddenly having to worry about the

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01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,780
vaccines again feels like a flashback to the

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01:24:52,780 --> 01:24:54,060
early days of the pandemic.

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01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:55,880
It feels like we are going back in

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01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,440
time again to that same place where there's

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01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,060
not a whole lot that I can do

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01:25:01,060 --> 01:25:02,300
to protect my kids.

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01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:06,480
So they're recalling trauma of the listener by

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01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:09,180
recalling the trauma of this poor woman who

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01:25:09,180 --> 01:25:12,580
has clearly been traumatized and is being abused

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01:25:12,580 --> 01:25:13,300
for this piece.

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01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,740
Federal officials say the changes make sense because

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01:25:16,740 --> 01:25:19,300
so many people have so much immunity now.

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01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,680
They also question the safety of the vaccines,

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01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:23,760
even though billions of people have gotten the

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01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:24,140
shots.

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01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:27,320
Many experts say that demonstrates the vaccines are

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,600
very safe and effective for everyone.

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01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:30,280
Wow.

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01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,900
Billions of people got it.

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01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:32,920
Not everybody died.

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01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:33,880
Safe and effective.

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01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:38,540
Competti, Hoskinson's, Zolano, they will probably still be

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01:25:38,540 --> 01:25:40,580
able to get the shots by paying for

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01:25:40,580 --> 01:25:41,520
them for themselves.

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01:25:41,860 --> 01:25:44,900
But all the uncertainty and changing rules makes

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01:25:44,900 --> 01:25:45,500
them anxious.

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01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:49,000
Here's Competti again, the pregnant woman from Ohio.

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01:25:49,620 --> 01:25:52,620
Yeah, I'm just worried that if we're losing

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01:25:52,620 --> 01:25:57,240
access to COVID vaccines and I don't know

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01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,060
if other things are going to get taken

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01:25:59,060 --> 01:25:59,440
away.

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01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,220
Yeah, I'm just scared.

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01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:02,520
I'm just scared.

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01:26:02,740 --> 01:26:03,360
I don't know.

2331
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:04,440
I don't know what's happening.

2332
01:26:06,340 --> 01:26:07,780
This is a salvo.

2333
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,380
This is a salvo clip.

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01:26:09,460 --> 01:26:11,240
This is one of those clips where they

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01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,620
use bull crap like we're afraid about access.

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01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:15,100
Yeah.

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01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:17,740
This is to keep them from banning the

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01:26:18,540 --> 01:26:19,580
vaccine completely.

2339
01:26:19,860 --> 01:26:20,160
Yes.

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01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,460
So, okay, the vaccine is going to be

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01:26:22,460 --> 01:26:24,440
around and Kennedy's promised he's not going to

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01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:27,620
mess with vaccines and sure and he wants

2343
01:26:27,620 --> 01:26:28,240
to get rid of them.

2344
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,100
No, no, no, no.

2345
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,560
They're not going to happen.

2346
01:26:32,860 --> 01:26:35,160
Well, I mean, we're stronger than you Kennedy.

2347
01:26:35,540 --> 01:26:37,420
This is big pharma.

2348
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,040
They're also doing well, if you want to

2349
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,160
hear the attack from the fluoride industry because

2350
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,960
this is the same report everywhere in the

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01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:46,320
country.

2352
01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:48,920
A recent study published in JAMA Health Forum

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01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,680
shows that if all 50 states stopped adding

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01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,160
fluoride to tap water, about one in three

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01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,880
kids could expect a cavity within the next

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01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,720
five years.

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01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:58,960
We'll be like England.

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01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,400
Everyone will have rotten teeth in America.

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01:27:02,660 --> 01:27:03,000
No.

2360
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,960
So how important is fluoride in our overall

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:06,880
dental health?

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01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:09,720
Our sources to answer this, the American Dental

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01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,980
Association family physician, Dr. Carla Robinson and cardiologist

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01:27:13,980 --> 01:27:15,240
Dr. Pyle Coley.

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01:27:15,660 --> 01:27:16,300
Cardiologist?

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01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:17,980
Cardiologist?

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01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,300
The FDA's new plan is to phase out

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01:27:20,300 --> 01:27:23,500
fluoride supplements you eat or drink not products

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01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:25,560
like toothpaste or mouth rinses.

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01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,260
Both doctors highlight the role it can play

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01:27:28,260 --> 01:27:29,460
in our daily care.

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01:27:29,620 --> 01:27:31,700
You know, fluoride is really important to protect

2373
01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:33,800
our teeth because it does sort of two

2374
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:34,160
things.

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01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,900
It prevents demineralization of our teeth and it

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01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:40,740
also helps with remineralization of our teeth.

2377
01:27:42,180 --> 01:27:45,380
It helps with demineralization of our teeth, but

2378
01:27:45,380 --> 01:27:47,900
also with remineralization of our teeth.

2379
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:50,500
John, you studied chemistry.

2380
01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:51,700
What's going on here?

2381
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:52,800
I have no idea.

2382
01:27:53,260 --> 01:27:55,600
Prevents demineralization of our teeth.

2383
01:27:55,740 --> 01:27:57,760
There's a little gotcha in here that I'm

2384
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:58,500
sure you'll catch it.

2385
01:27:58,820 --> 01:28:01,900
And it also helps with remineralization of our

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01:28:01,900 --> 01:28:02,120
teeth.

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01:28:02,340 --> 01:28:06,780
We all utilize fluoride, either whether it's in

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01:28:06,780 --> 01:28:11,140
our toothpaste or in our drinking water or

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01:28:11,140 --> 01:28:13,600
for some who it's not available in their

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01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,060
drinking water, maybe supplements.

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01:28:15,420 --> 01:28:18,200
The American Dental Association says that if you're

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01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,900
living somewhere that doesn't have fluoride in the

2393
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:23,700
drinking water, you probably need a fluoride supplement.

2394
01:28:24,220 --> 01:28:26,240
But when it comes to children, what amount

2395
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,080
of fluoride is considered safe?

2396
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,400
Robinson mentions that while it can be dangerous

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01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,340
in large amounts, it can cause problems with

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01:28:34,340 --> 01:28:37,600
the teeth, ironically, when used in higher amounts

2399
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,940
than recommended, or it can also cause problems

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01:28:40,940 --> 01:28:41,640
with the bones.

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01:28:41,980 --> 01:28:43,840
The amount of fluoride that we're typically exposed

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01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,920
to in our drinking water or in our

2403
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:50,660
toothpaste is so far beyond that, so beneath

2404
01:28:50,660 --> 01:28:51,460
that level.

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01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:54,200
And so in general, fluoride in regular...

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01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:54,420
What?

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01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,500
Did she just, did the truth just come

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01:28:56,500 --> 01:28:57,000
out there?

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01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:00,800
The fluoride in our water is so far

2410
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,640
beyond, I mean below, what?

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01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,200
Recommended, or it can also cause problems with

2412
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:06,720
the bones.

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01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,920
The amount of fluoride that we're typically exposed

2414
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,000
to in our drinking water or in our

2415
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:15,720
toothpaste is so far beyond that, so beneath

2416
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:16,540
that level.

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01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,780
And so in general, fluoride in regular...

2418
01:29:18,780 --> 01:29:20,560
It's a usage issue.

2419
01:29:22,460 --> 01:29:24,520
It's, yeah, I know what you're saying, but

2420
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,920
I think the way she put it is,

2421
01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:28,460
I think is legal.

2422
01:29:28,780 --> 01:29:29,760
But she corrected it.

2423
01:29:29,820 --> 01:29:30,960
Then why did she correct it?

2424
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,240
Well, there's a point to be made with

2425
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:33,600
that.

2426
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,160
The bones, the amount of fluoride that we're

2427
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:36,980
typically exposed to in our...

2428
01:29:36,980 --> 01:29:38,280
The bones, by the way, for anyone who

2429
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,360
wants to know, so one of the nasty,

2430
01:29:41,480 --> 01:29:43,620
nasty chemicals is hydrofluoric acid.

2431
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:48,440
You know, there's sulfuric acid, there's hydrochloric acid,

2432
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,980
there's nitric acid, which nitric acid's pretty nasty,

2433
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:52,340
too, if you're dealing with it in the

2434
01:29:52,340 --> 01:29:52,540
lab.

2435
01:29:52,580 --> 01:29:54,480
You get one small speck of it on

2436
01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:56,920
you and it turns your skin yellow and

2437
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:57,760
kind of burns you.

2438
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:01,560
Hydrofluoric acid's a little different.

2439
01:30:02,620 --> 01:30:04,800
Hydrofluoric acid, if you get it on you,

2440
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:06,860
it goes right through your skin, it just

2441
01:30:06,860 --> 01:30:09,420
goes right to the bone and starts eating

2442
01:30:09,420 --> 01:30:10,360
your bone.

2443
01:30:10,620 --> 01:30:13,520
It starts dissolving your bone right from the

2444
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:14,680
outset.

2445
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,540
Very nasty product.

2446
01:30:16,740 --> 01:30:17,660
Don't be around it.

2447
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,080
Isn't that what those Russian hitmen use to

2448
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:21,020
get rid of the body?

2449
01:30:22,540 --> 01:30:22,800
No.

2450
01:30:22,820 --> 01:30:23,320
In the bathtub?

2451
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:24,380
They use lime.

2452
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:25,700
I think everyone uses lime.

2453
01:30:25,900 --> 01:30:26,820
Lime or lye?

2454
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:31,060
It's impractical to use hydrofluoric acid.

2455
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,200
The only business that uses it is the

2456
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:35,400
semiconductor industry.

2457
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,960
It uses the clean chip, I think, as

2458
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,220
wafers and things need to be cleaned with

2459
01:30:41,220 --> 01:30:42,800
it so it'll clean them properly.

2460
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:44,820
It's a real problem.

2461
01:30:44,900 --> 01:30:45,900
It's a waste issue.

2462
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:47,940
Is that why they put it in the

2463
01:30:47,940 --> 01:30:48,160
water?

2464
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:48,920
To get rid of it?

2465
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:56,360
Well, most of the fluoride in water comes

2466
01:30:56,360 --> 01:31:00,460
from the waste from aluminum manufacturing.

2467
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,960
It's a waste product and it's hard to

2468
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:03,380
get rid of.

2469
01:31:03,780 --> 01:31:05,640
For some of the reasons I just mentioned,

2470
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:06,680
it's a nasty thing.

2471
01:31:06,780 --> 01:31:08,920
If you get a drop of hydrofluoric acid

2472
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,340
on you, it just starts eating your bones.

2473
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,380
Put it in the water.

2474
01:31:12,540 --> 01:31:13,780
Let's drink it.

2475
01:31:14,300 --> 01:31:17,360
Drinking water or in our toothpaste is so

2476
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,820
far beyond that level.

2477
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:26,080
In general, fluoride in regular, normal applications is

2478
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,720
very safe to use and doesn't really put

2479
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,360
you at risk for those complications.

2480
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,200
I think this is such a big win

2481
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,560
because we've been talking about fluoride in the

2482
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,540
water since the day this show started.

2483
01:31:39,220 --> 01:31:41,240
It was probably second half of show.

2484
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:45,980
These nuts are talking about fluoride in the

2485
01:31:45,980 --> 01:31:46,840
water again.

2486
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:47,760
It's crazy.

2487
01:31:47,940 --> 01:31:48,720
What are they thinking?

2488
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:49,620
What are they doing?

2489
01:31:50,780 --> 01:31:51,940
I think so.

2490
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:53,680
I don't think it was second half of

2491
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:53,840
show.

2492
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,800
I think it was first half of show.

2493
01:31:57,180 --> 01:31:57,280
Okay.

2494
01:31:57,740 --> 01:31:58,420
All right.

2495
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:00,100
It wasn't.

2496
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,100
Second half of show was all flying saucer

2497
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:02,800
stuff.

2498
01:32:04,460 --> 01:32:05,980
Which is a lot of people miss.

2499
01:32:06,700 --> 01:32:07,480
Myself included.

2500
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:09,480
Because it's bull crap.

2501
01:32:09,620 --> 01:32:10,700
All of it's bull crap.

2502
01:32:11,060 --> 01:32:13,960
All of a sudden, you've changed from meeting.

2503
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:15,880
You meant you're going to meet some guy.

2504
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,520
Remember this.

2505
01:32:16,620 --> 01:32:17,820
This is like in the third year of

2506
01:32:17,820 --> 01:32:18,100
the show.

2507
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:18,820
Yes, I can say that.

2508
01:32:18,820 --> 01:32:20,060
You're going to meet an alien.

2509
01:32:20,140 --> 01:32:22,200
He's going to be meeting you somewhere in

2510
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,360
the Midwest or someplace.

2511
01:32:23,540 --> 01:32:24,260
You went to meet him.

2512
01:32:24,260 --> 01:32:25,220
It didn't show up.

2513
01:32:25,220 --> 01:32:27,300
It was in the north of Holland.

2514
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:30,620
You're going to meet some guy who's an

2515
01:32:30,620 --> 01:32:30,940
alien.

2516
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:32,200
He just came off a ship.

2517
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,300
He's going to talk to you and tell

2518
01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:33,800
you the truth.

2519
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:34,800
Tell you what was going on.

2520
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:35,700
He never showed up.

2521
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:36,340
Exactly.

2522
01:32:36,980 --> 01:32:39,060
Now do you understand why I'm saying it's

2523
01:32:39,060 --> 01:32:39,900
all bull crap?

2524
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:41,560
All of it.

2525
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,160
Zero point energy.

2526
01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:46,360
I've wasted so many years of my life

2527
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:46,800
on this.

2528
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:47,320
Zero point is my favorite.

2529
01:32:47,780 --> 01:32:49,680
I've wasted so many years of my life

2530
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:50,160
on this.

2531
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:50,940
Perpetual motion.

2532
01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:53,180
The other favorite one of you...

2533
01:32:53,180 --> 01:32:54,940
I'm not here to ridicule you.

2534
01:32:55,980 --> 01:32:57,020
No, okay.

2535
01:32:59,020 --> 01:32:59,520
But...

2536
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:01,820
There's always a big but.

2537
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,920
You had a Rolls Royce or something in

2538
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:08,560
your heyday.

2539
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,900
You were going to put water...

2540
01:33:10,900 --> 01:33:12,320
He's going to use water for fuel.

2541
01:33:12,500 --> 01:33:12,860
No, no, no.

2542
01:33:12,940 --> 01:33:14,220
That was the Jaguar.

2543
01:33:14,860 --> 01:33:16,100
The hydro booster.

2544
01:33:17,140 --> 01:33:20,060
Yeah, you had water in there and you

2545
01:33:20,060 --> 01:33:23,080
went on and on about how much great

2546
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,340
your gas mileage was.

2547
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:24,880
It was true.

2548
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,220
And again, I drove from the UK to

2549
01:33:28,220 --> 01:33:30,040
the Netherlands, to the east of the Netherlands

2550
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,060
to have a hydro booster installed and it

2551
01:33:32,060 --> 01:33:32,320
did.

2552
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:39,640
I did get better gas mileage by putting...

2553
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,000
What is it?

2554
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:41,840
Water in the gas.

2555
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:47,660
No, it was hydrolysis and it created boom.

2556
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:48,580
What is that stuff?

2557
01:33:49,380 --> 01:33:50,280
What do you get from it?

2558
01:33:50,300 --> 01:33:50,400
Boom.

2559
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,080
What is that stuff?

2560
01:33:54,620 --> 01:33:55,500
Hydro stuff.

2561
01:33:56,020 --> 01:33:56,420
Boom.

2562
01:33:56,540 --> 01:33:57,080
That stuff.

2563
01:33:58,460 --> 01:33:58,900
Yeah.

2564
01:33:58,900 --> 01:33:59,340
Hydrazine.

2565
01:33:59,580 --> 01:34:00,800
No, not hydrazine.

2566
01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:02,940
No, it was the...

2567
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:03,420
Come on.

2568
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:06,340
I have no idea what you're talking about.

2569
01:34:06,500 --> 01:34:09,780
When you put electricity into water, you get

2570
01:34:09,780 --> 01:34:10,500
hydrolysis.

2571
01:34:11,140 --> 01:34:11,580
Electrolysis.

2572
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:12,360
Electrolysis.

2573
01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:15,080
And what comes out of it is...

2574
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:15,840
Hydrazine.

2575
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:16,340
Exactly.

2576
01:34:16,580 --> 01:34:17,920
And I was putting that straight into the

2577
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:18,540
carburetor.

2578
01:34:19,580 --> 01:34:23,640
The car went fast and it saved gas.

2579
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:24,400
It's true.

2580
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,120
Do you ever wonder what happened to cars

2581
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:29,640
you had?

2582
01:34:29,940 --> 01:34:32,720
I have no idea what happened to that

2583
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:32,960
car.

2584
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,240
I only know...

2585
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:37,500
The Rolls Royce know what happened to the

2586
01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:37,900
Rolls Royce.

2587
01:34:37,980 --> 01:34:39,680
I don't know any of my cars.

2588
01:34:39,740 --> 01:34:40,720
I have no idea where they went.

2589
01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:41,580
Did I sell them?

2590
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:42,320
Did I get rid of them?

2591
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:43,560
Did I drop them by the side of

2592
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:44,040
the road?

2593
01:34:44,700 --> 01:34:46,620
Well, I can tell you the Rolls Royces

2594
01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:47,660
accounted for.

2595
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,800
We had a person when I lived at

2596
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,500
another house in the same town here.

2597
01:34:54,140 --> 01:34:56,100
There was an old lady living on the

2598
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:57,880
corner and she was kind of a crazy

2599
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:58,300
old lady.

2600
01:34:58,460 --> 01:35:01,080
The house was located next to the railroad

2601
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:01,660
tracks.

2602
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,580
It used to be a bootleggers place in

2603
01:35:05,580 --> 01:35:06,300
the 30s.

2604
01:35:06,780 --> 01:35:10,320
And the trains would stop right in front

2605
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:11,820
of this house and offload a bunch of

2606
01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:13,380
liquor and this house would look like a

2607
01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:14,260
warehouse anyway.

2608
01:35:14,860 --> 01:35:16,440
It was pretty much an empty house but

2609
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:17,020
it had a lot of...

2610
01:35:17,020 --> 01:35:18,760
It was just a weird situation.

2611
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,340
The place was eventually torn down.

2612
01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:21,060
That was the end of it.

2613
01:35:21,340 --> 01:35:23,440
But in the garage right there at that

2614
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:27,460
house was a 1920s, 1930s Rolls Royce.

2615
01:35:28,300 --> 01:35:29,420
They never took out.

2616
01:35:29,500 --> 01:35:30,560
I got to see it once.

2617
01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:31,360
Mint condition.

2618
01:35:31,460 --> 01:35:32,600
I'd peer in to see it.

2619
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,540
I talked to some Rolls Royce guys and

2620
01:35:35,540 --> 01:35:37,640
there was a Rolls Royce guy somewhere along

2621
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,280
the lines because there was a thing going

2622
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,340
on in Berkeley area called Morehouse, which was

2623
01:35:42,340 --> 01:35:42,900
a cult.

2624
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:45,480
And everybody in the cult had to have

2625
01:35:45,480 --> 01:35:46,640
a Rolls Royce.

2626
01:35:47,260 --> 01:35:48,720
It was a part of the cult.

2627
01:35:49,620 --> 01:35:51,520
And they drive around these Rolls Royces.

2628
01:35:51,620 --> 01:35:52,600
There were a bunch of them in Berkeley

2629
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,220
because there was a bunch of cultists here.

2630
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,760
And so I ran into some Rolls Royce

2631
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,300
expert and he was part of some club.

2632
01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:01,560
He says, oh yeah, every Rolls Royce in

2633
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,980
the world is accounted for and he knew

2634
01:36:03,980 --> 01:36:05,600
the car in that garage.

2635
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,440
Yes, every Rolls Royce.

2636
01:36:07,480 --> 01:36:09,860
So your car is accounted for by the

2637
01:36:09,860 --> 01:36:10,860
Rolls Royce folk.

2638
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,460
I know where it went.

2639
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:13,280
That one I know.

2640
01:36:13,820 --> 01:36:18,320
But my first car, Volkswagen Beetle 1303, I

2641
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,060
don't remember.

2642
01:36:20,020 --> 01:36:20,980
You don't remember?

2643
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:21,820
Why would you?

2644
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,060
The Volvo 142, I don't remember.

2645
01:36:25,180 --> 01:36:27,340
You had a Volvo 142, the funky looking

2646
01:36:27,340 --> 01:36:27,540
one?

2647
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,120
That was my mom's car, which I inherited.

2648
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:31,720
No, it was the big box, but it

2649
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:33,840
had the lawnmower engine in it.

2650
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,120
Oh, it was the boxy Volvo?

2651
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:37,440
The huge boxy Volvo.

2652
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:43,580
And then I had the Volkswagen 1303 and,

2653
01:36:43,580 --> 01:36:44,640
gosh, I don't remember.

2654
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,300
I think I had a Mitsubishi after that.

2655
01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:47,880
I had a Mitsubishi Turbo.

2656
01:36:48,460 --> 01:36:50,700
It had a big turbo sign on the

2657
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:53,140
back, which was really gay, really.

2658
01:36:53,300 --> 01:36:56,460
It was like, it was wrong.

2659
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:57,320
It was so wrong.

2660
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,340
And I mean gay in the old school

2661
01:36:59,340 --> 01:37:00,180
sense of the word.

2662
01:37:00,900 --> 01:37:01,120
Yeah.

2663
01:37:01,300 --> 01:37:02,660
Well, we don't take care, actually, on this

2664
01:37:02,660 --> 01:37:02,860
show.

2665
01:37:02,980 --> 01:37:03,180
No.

2666
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:05,860
Gosh, but I don't remember.

2667
01:37:06,380 --> 01:37:07,600
I mean, you had a lot of cars.

2668
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:10,260
Oh, I had a Buick Skylark with an

2669
01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:12,420
eight track in it with the T-top

2670
01:37:12,420 --> 01:37:12,800
roof.

2671
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,600
That was my favorite car.

2672
01:37:14,660 --> 01:37:16,400
It had eight cylinders, but usually if you

2673
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,040
were idling, only six of them worked.

2674
01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:23,820
That was one of my favorites.

2675
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,100
There was an engine General Motors had for

2676
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:29,400
a while that when you were driving it,

2677
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:30,800
it would go to four.

2678
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,720
It has an eight, but it would use

2679
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:33,520
four cylinders.

2680
01:37:33,900 --> 01:37:35,500
Yeah, that was a thing for a while.

2681
01:37:35,580 --> 01:37:37,980
It was probably in the 70s for a

2682
01:37:37,980 --> 01:37:38,260
while.

2683
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:39,260
Yeah.

2684
01:37:39,380 --> 01:37:41,200
Well, it's all because of global cooling.

2685
01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:41,800
Yes.

2686
01:37:42,380 --> 01:37:43,640
Alright, enough reminiscence.

2687
01:37:43,980 --> 01:37:44,080
Right.

2688
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:45,560
Well, people love our stories, John.

2689
01:37:45,620 --> 01:37:46,780
They come for the deconstruction.

2690
01:37:46,900 --> 01:37:49,460
They stay for the stories about hydroxy boosters

2691
01:37:49,460 --> 01:37:50,200
and aliens.

2692
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:50,920
Come on, man.

2693
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,900
We just gave everybody everything they want.

2694
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,920
So back to Massey, I have some more

2695
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,600
clips from him if you want to hear.

2696
01:37:58,800 --> 01:37:59,420
Yeah, of course I do.

2697
01:37:59,540 --> 01:38:01,660
Thomas Massey, the guy you mentioned earlier in

2698
01:38:01,660 --> 01:38:04,340
the show as a sellout or an anti

2699
01:38:04,340 --> 01:38:04,800
-Trumper.

2700
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:07,920
He's got his reasons.

2701
01:38:08,260 --> 01:38:10,880
He's principled is what he is.

2702
01:38:10,940 --> 01:38:11,700
He's principled.

2703
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:12,940
And I think he's right.

2704
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:14,200
I think he's right.

2705
01:38:15,060 --> 01:38:17,820
It's explained in these clips, but at the

2706
01:38:17,820 --> 01:38:20,220
same time, there is a he does have

2707
01:38:20,220 --> 01:38:21,500
a flaw in his thinking.

2708
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:22,440
I'm sorry.

2709
01:38:22,740 --> 01:38:25,180
People are just saying our new exit strategy

2710
01:38:25,180 --> 01:38:26,320
is car talk.

2711
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:27,600
That's it, baby.

2712
01:38:28,060 --> 01:38:29,460
We're reviving the show.

2713
01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:31,900
We'll be on NPR stations everywhere soon.

2714
01:38:33,620 --> 01:38:35,680
So he does have a, I think this

2715
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:36,440
was a mistake.

2716
01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:37,380
This is Massey.

2717
01:38:37,500 --> 01:38:39,360
This is the Massach's clip that you tried

2718
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:40,020
to play earlier.

2719
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,660
He actually implies that Americans are dumb and

2720
01:38:44,660 --> 01:38:46,680
then he figures out that he said that

2721
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:47,860
and he corrects himself.

2722
01:38:48,060 --> 01:38:48,780
Listen to this.

2723
01:38:49,540 --> 01:38:51,260
If the tariffs increase the prices, they're going

2724
01:38:51,260 --> 01:38:52,100
to be annoyed by that.

2725
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,280
But I think the ideas behind tariffs, which

2726
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,500
even Trump would probably agree with, it's not

2727
01:38:56,500 --> 01:38:59,180
going to be an easy start, but eventually

2728
01:38:59,180 --> 01:39:00,940
they want to get to a place where

2729
01:39:00,940 --> 01:39:02,940
people have more money because the industries are

2730
01:39:02,940 --> 01:39:03,580
back in America.

2731
01:39:04,260 --> 01:39:05,860
But what if we're not good at making

2732
01:39:05,860 --> 01:39:06,300
socks?

2733
01:39:06,820 --> 01:39:10,000
What if we're better at growing potatoes in

2734
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,820
this country than we are at making socks?

2735
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,260
Should, you know, when you go to Walmart,

2736
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,560
should you be, through tariffs, induced to buy

2737
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,920
socks that weren't made as well or as

2738
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,520
ones made in China or were made more

2739
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,920
costly versus being able to go in and

2740
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,960
buy your potatoes that were made in America

2741
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,000
because more of our effort was put toward

2742
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,240
things we're good at or things that we

2743
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,240
can maybe we're good at everything.

2744
01:39:39,460 --> 01:39:40,940
I don't want to discourage any industry.

2745
01:39:41,260 --> 01:39:42,560
Yes, exactly.

2746
01:39:42,980 --> 01:39:44,660
Who are you Thomas Massey?

2747
01:39:45,140 --> 01:39:46,500
We're great at making socks.

2748
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:50,500
We made Goldtooth socks forever here in this

2749
01:39:50,500 --> 01:39:50,980
country.

2750
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:53,780
And then they shipped them off to Mexico.

2751
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,380
They're all made in Mexico now.

2752
01:39:55,460 --> 01:39:56,400
They're not as good.

2753
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:58,140
Our socks were so good that it was

2754
01:39:58,140 --> 01:40:00,360
the number one Christmas gift from your grandma.

2755
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,680
We gave each other socks because our socks

2756
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:04,420
were great.

2757
01:40:05,380 --> 01:40:06,760
How hard is it to make good socks?

2758
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:07,600
I find that disappointing.

2759
01:40:08,900 --> 01:40:11,000
He talked himself into a bunch.

2760
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:11,460
You know what?

2761
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,120
That's because of the Brit.

2762
01:40:13,540 --> 01:40:15,480
All of a sudden he thinks he's...

2763
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:16,560
I had a...

2764
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,120
where was this?

2765
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:18,820
I had a...

2766
01:40:20,820 --> 01:40:23,120
Okay, there's another anonymous boots on the ground.

2767
01:40:23,220 --> 01:40:25,680
I was at a training with a federal

2768
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,720
agency during part of the class we watched

2769
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:31,200
a short video of Robert Cialdini's principles of

2770
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:31,880
persuasion.

2771
01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:34,600
In addition to the principles, the instructor pointed

2772
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,580
out a subtle principle the video used.

2773
01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:38,180
The narrator had a British accent.

2774
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,060
The instructor stated that Americans tend to find

2775
01:40:41,060 --> 01:40:44,040
British accents pleasing to hear and we think

2776
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,840
that people who speak with a British accent

2777
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:46,460
are smart.

2778
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,220
Therefore, we tend to put more stock or

2779
01:40:49,220 --> 01:40:51,060
socks in what they are saying.

2780
01:40:53,260 --> 01:40:53,660
Fact.

2781
01:40:55,140 --> 01:40:57,140
So Massey was probably sitting there thinking, I'm

2782
01:40:57,140 --> 01:40:58,300
here with an intelligent guy.

2783
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,700
We don't know how to make socks.

2784
01:40:59,700 --> 01:41:04,900
This is WMS William Marshall.

2785
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:06,460
I'm sorry, Winston.

2786
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:07,180
Winston.

2787
01:41:07,180 --> 01:41:08,320
Winston Marshall.

2788
01:41:08,340 --> 01:41:09,460
Winston, wow.

2789
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:10,020
Okay.

2790
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,080
That's the Winston Marshall podcast.

2791
01:41:13,660 --> 01:41:15,360
So now this is the thing.

2792
01:41:15,500 --> 01:41:16,940
We've talked about this on the show before,

2793
01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:18,980
but I want to remind everybody people seem

2794
01:41:18,980 --> 01:41:21,080
to forget it, that if you're on a

2795
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,540
hot committee, one of the better committees in

2796
01:41:23,540 --> 01:41:26,460
Congress, you have to pay, you have to

2797
01:41:26,460 --> 01:41:27,180
pay dues.

2798
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:28,620
Like a million bucks at least.

2799
01:41:28,940 --> 01:41:30,340
It can be a million bucks at the

2800
01:41:30,340 --> 01:41:31,020
ways and means.

2801
01:41:31,620 --> 01:41:33,700
That's the top committee according to Massey.

2802
01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:36,840
Here's the stories on this.

2803
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,020
By the way, Massey doesn't, he gets charged.

2804
01:41:40,620 --> 01:41:41,700
He's on some committee.

2805
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,260
He's not on the A committee, like he

2806
01:41:43,260 --> 01:41:45,080
puts A, B, and C committee.

2807
01:41:45,740 --> 01:41:47,640
And he says, and you look at who's

2808
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,800
on the C committee as you can see

2809
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,200
who's probably more honest.

2810
01:41:50,340 --> 01:41:51,420
You never heard of any of them.

2811
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:54,420
He got a bill.

2812
01:41:54,540 --> 01:41:55,900
He talks about getting the bill.

2813
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,100
He doesn't say it in this clip, but

2814
01:41:58,100 --> 01:41:59,980
he never, he refused to pay.

2815
01:42:00,820 --> 01:42:03,620
He never paid his committee fees?

2816
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:04,460
Nope.

2817
01:42:04,780 --> 01:42:06,100
Oh, okay.

2818
01:42:06,260 --> 01:42:06,840
Here we go.

2819
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,540
That people don't fully appreciate.

2820
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:13,400
I didn't know it existed until I got

2821
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:13,620
here.

2822
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:18,420
When I got here, a lobbyist wanted to

2823
01:42:18,420 --> 01:42:21,080
have a meeting with me, and I took

2824
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,620
the meeting, and my fundraiser was there.

2825
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,140
This is a woman who helps me raise

2826
01:42:25,140 --> 01:42:25,500
money.

2827
01:42:25,940 --> 01:42:27,420
She said, you should take this meeting.

2828
01:42:28,220 --> 01:42:29,780
And I had no idea what the meeting

2829
01:42:29,780 --> 01:42:30,400
was about.

2830
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,600
And they said, they opened the meeting and

2831
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,360
said, you're a talented individual.

2832
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:36,320
You're a smart guy.

2833
01:42:36,420 --> 01:42:37,260
You went to MIT.

2834
01:42:37,480 --> 01:42:39,220
You shouldn't be wasting your time on these

2835
01:42:39,220 --> 01:42:40,020
committees you're on.

2836
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,560
You need to get on the Ways and

2837
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,740
Means Committee, and my friends and I will

2838
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,500
raise you the money that's required to get

2839
01:42:48,500 --> 01:42:51,020
you on the Ways and Means Committee, which,

2840
01:42:51,140 --> 01:42:52,760
by the way, is like half a million

2841
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:53,740
or a million dollars.

2842
01:42:54,940 --> 01:42:56,200
What's the Ways and Means Committee?

2843
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:57,240
It's the tax committee.

2844
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,780
See, it's considered probably the most powerful committee,

2845
01:43:02,460 --> 01:43:04,500
because we don't have a flat tax.

2846
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:05,780
We don't have a flat tariff.

2847
01:43:05,780 --> 01:43:07,820
It's because we have all these variations and

2848
01:43:07,820 --> 01:43:09,320
deductions and exemptions.

2849
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,660
And everybody's here trying to get one of

2850
01:43:11,660 --> 01:43:11,880
those.

2851
01:43:11,980 --> 01:43:14,080
And if you're on that committee, you know,

2852
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,100
I'm, for instance, on the Transportation Committee.

2853
01:43:17,380 --> 01:43:19,560
So you can imagine the concrete lobbyists would

2854
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:20,620
be interested, right?

2855
01:43:20,940 --> 01:43:23,180
Or the airplane manufacturers might be interested.

2856
01:43:23,620 --> 01:43:25,600
But guess who's interested in the tax committee?

2857
01:43:26,340 --> 01:43:26,780
Everybody.

2858
01:43:27,580 --> 01:43:30,560
It's not like a subset of America that's

2859
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:31,660
interested in that committee.

2860
01:43:32,060 --> 01:43:33,400
Everybody's interested in that committee.

2861
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:35,900
And so all the lobbyists are prone to

2862
01:43:35,900 --> 01:43:37,560
donating to people on that committee.

2863
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,680
So if you hold one of those committee

2864
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,640
seats, you're supposed to collect the money from

2865
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,960
those lobbyists that are interested in the subjects

2866
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,100
that come in front of your committee and

2867
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:48,220
give it to the party.

2868
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,460
And there's a dues system here.

2869
01:43:53,140 --> 01:43:55,280
When I first got here and they went

2870
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:56,940
to the trouble of sending me the bill,

2871
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,120
it was $300,000 every election cycle I

2872
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,940
was supposed to give the party for the

2873
01:44:02,940 --> 01:44:04,860
privilege of serving on these committees.

2874
01:44:05,300 --> 01:44:05,700
Right.

2875
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:07,100
Well, we knew this.

2876
01:44:07,260 --> 01:44:09,040
It was fun to hear him say it.

2877
01:44:09,740 --> 01:44:09,960
Yeah.

2878
01:44:10,140 --> 01:44:11,040
No, we knew this.

2879
01:44:11,900 --> 01:44:13,800
Not everybody that listens to this show heard

2880
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:14,320
it before.

2881
01:44:14,500 --> 01:44:16,600
I just wanted to remind them that this

2882
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:17,700
is a scam.

2883
01:44:18,900 --> 01:44:20,300
Well, he didn't pay for it.

2884
01:44:20,340 --> 01:44:21,280
I think that's what's interesting.

2885
01:44:21,500 --> 01:44:23,640
No, he said, no, I'm not paying it.

2886
01:44:23,780 --> 01:44:24,860
He never paid.

2887
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:26,400
But they won't put him on a higher

2888
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:26,980
-end committee.

2889
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:29,160
They keep him on the Transportation Committee.

2890
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:29,460
Right.

2891
01:44:29,820 --> 01:44:31,600
In one of the clips, he talks about

2892
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,960
Foreign Affairs is the lowest of the lowest,

2893
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:34,860
the low committee.

2894
01:44:34,980 --> 01:44:37,580
If people look up who's on Foreign Affairs

2895
01:44:37,580 --> 01:44:38,980
Committee, you'll see there's a bunch of guys

2896
01:44:38,980 --> 01:44:42,320
that probably don't pay anything either, including Nancy

2897
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,520
Mace, who's on that one.

2898
01:44:43,700 --> 01:44:44,400
Oh, really?

2899
01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:46,880
Here's the second half of this clip.

2900
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,960
It was $300,000 every election cycle I

2901
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,800
was supposed to give the party for the

2902
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,680
privilege of serving on these committees.

2903
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,340
And they say it's legal because the committees

2904
01:44:57,340 --> 01:44:58,700
aren't in the Constitution.

2905
01:44:59,540 --> 01:45:01,800
So they believe it's something that they can

2906
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,400
extract rent from.

2907
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:07,740
And because this is all happening within Congress,

2908
01:45:08,180 --> 01:45:10,260
Congress isn't going to make a law to

2909
01:45:10,260 --> 01:45:10,900
stop it.

2910
01:45:11,380 --> 01:45:13,240
So they charge you rent for the committees

2911
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:13,680
you're on.

2912
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,040
And if you want to be on a

2913
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,540
really lucrative committee, you have to pay higher

2914
01:45:17,540 --> 01:45:17,960
rent.

2915
01:45:19,220 --> 01:45:20,880
You don't go back home.

2916
01:45:21,340 --> 01:45:22,260
I'm from Kentucky.

2917
01:45:22,460 --> 01:45:24,300
I can't go back home and sit in

2918
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:26,960
somebody's living room and do a fundraiser with

2919
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:31,060
20 people who like being represented by me,

2920
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:32,720
like what I stand for, and tell them,

2921
01:45:33,300 --> 01:45:34,640
well, I'm going to need you all to

2922
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,080
get out your wallets and write me a

2923
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,700
$5,000 check because this ain't free.

2924
01:45:39,940 --> 01:45:41,760
It's not cheap to be on the Ways

2925
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:42,520
and Means Committee.

2926
01:45:42,700 --> 01:45:44,700
You're going to have to donate money to

2927
01:45:44,700 --> 01:45:45,880
me just so I can be on a

2928
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:46,180
committee.

2929
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:49,360
I think Americans would revolt.

2930
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:51,900
The kind that you do a fundraising in

2931
01:45:51,900 --> 01:45:54,100
their living room with, they would reject that

2932
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:54,780
out of hand.

2933
01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:57,680
But you can do that with lobbyists.

2934
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,880
The lobbyists know that's the game that's played.

2935
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:04,340
And so if the lobbyists like what you're

2936
01:46:04,340 --> 01:46:06,420
doing for them on that committee, they're inclined

2937
01:46:06,420 --> 01:46:07,680
to help pay your dues.

2938
01:46:09,980 --> 01:46:11,940
And there's no way you're going to raise

2939
01:46:11,940 --> 01:46:13,900
half a million dollars back home in living

2940
01:46:13,900 --> 01:46:15,480
rooms to pay your rent on the Ways

2941
01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:16,080
and Means Committee.

2942
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,100
You have to get it from the lobbyists

2943
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:20,140
who have interests in front of the Ways

2944
01:46:20,140 --> 01:46:20,780
and Means Committee.

2945
01:46:20,780 --> 01:46:24,080
But by the time you've done that, now

2946
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:25,900
you feel obligated to those people.

2947
01:46:28,550 --> 01:46:29,030
Yeah.

2948
01:46:29,710 --> 01:46:31,190
Yes, that is the system.

2949
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,340
Yeah, it goes on with more details, but

2950
01:46:37,340 --> 01:46:38,760
it's all unnecessary.

2951
01:46:40,340 --> 01:46:42,580
People need to know this is going on.

2952
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:44,480
What's what?

2953
01:46:44,940 --> 01:46:46,520
So the Dutch government collapsed.

2954
01:46:47,580 --> 01:46:48,380
Yes, yes.

2955
01:46:49,260 --> 01:46:51,440
Mimi, I was talking to her about it.

2956
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:53,360
She says, oh my god, how did this

2957
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:53,800
happen?

2958
01:46:54,020 --> 01:46:55,120
This is unbelievable.

2959
01:46:55,820 --> 01:46:56,540
What's going to happen?

2960
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:57,340
What's going to happen?

2961
01:46:58,900 --> 01:46:59,820
This happens.

2962
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:04,760
So when I heard this...

2963
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,560
The guy quit, I think.

2964
01:47:06,700 --> 01:47:07,740
Didn't he just walk out?

2965
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,920
No, and this report will not explain it,

2966
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:12,820
but there's a little thing in here.

2967
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,360
So Geert Wilders is what, if you remember,

2968
01:47:16,460 --> 01:47:18,700
the far-right Trump of the Netherlands.

2969
01:47:19,580 --> 01:47:22,340
He's the guy that's been under constant protection

2970
01:47:22,340 --> 01:47:24,680
for the past 15 years because of his

2971
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:25,760
anti...

2972
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,100
his Islamophobia!

2973
01:47:27,820 --> 01:47:30,020
Because he's like, we gotta stop.

2974
01:47:30,140 --> 01:47:31,120
We're a small country.

2975
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:35,220
We can't have all these Islamists coming in

2976
01:47:35,220 --> 01:47:37,820
and forming ghettos and, you know, all of

2977
01:47:37,820 --> 01:47:41,380
Europe is under severe strain due to immigrants,

2978
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:47,780
newcomers, asylum seekers, and one of the big...

2979
01:47:47,780 --> 01:47:50,900
and so he stood for election with his

2980
01:47:50,900 --> 01:47:55,500
PVV, the Freedom Party, and did extremely well.

2981
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,540
He still needs to create a coalition, so

2982
01:47:57,540 --> 01:47:59,280
he got the Farmers Party and a couple

2983
01:47:59,280 --> 01:47:59,840
others in there.

2984
01:47:59,860 --> 01:48:01,520
It was very difficult to form the coalition,

2985
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,940
so you have the majority in Parliament.

2986
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,360
But one of the big things was, we're

2987
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:11,780
going to stop the asylum seekers and immigration.

2988
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,100
It's a very small country.

2989
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,480
And besides, it's just wrong.

2990
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:16,720
We're going to stop this.

2991
01:48:19,300 --> 01:48:22,300
And so one of the big promises was

2992
01:48:22,300 --> 01:48:24,240
there would be no more of these asylum

2993
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:29,180
centers in all these small places that no

2994
01:48:29,180 --> 01:48:30,940
one's ever heard of on the outskirts of

2995
01:48:30,940 --> 01:48:32,000
the country, near the border.

2996
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,040
And, of course, it just started to happen

2997
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:35,580
anyway.

2998
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,520
And so, you recall that it was strange

2999
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,220
that he was the head of the party,

3000
01:48:42,540 --> 01:48:43,960
he was leading the party, but then they

3001
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:48,120
brought in this former intelligence guy to be

3002
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:48,960
the prime minister.

3003
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,720
Spook, a literal spook, who was a spook

3004
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:53,420
during COVID.

3005
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:55,940
The guy was like, why is this guy

3006
01:48:55,940 --> 01:48:58,200
being chosen to be prime minister?

3007
01:48:58,340 --> 01:49:01,420
Because you don't vote for the person, you

3008
01:49:01,420 --> 01:49:02,360
vote for the party.

3009
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,420
But, of course, everyone voted for Geert Wilders,

3010
01:49:04,660 --> 01:49:06,360
and he said, no, I'm not going to

3011
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:07,000
be prime minister.

3012
01:49:07,420 --> 01:49:10,220
Now I think this was a long, long

3013
01:49:10,220 --> 01:49:13,880
game, and it's brilliant, because the one thing

3014
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,260
every person in Western Europe, I mean, would

3015
01:49:17,260 --> 01:49:21,000
you say arguably, President Trump won on immigration?

3016
01:49:21,260 --> 01:49:22,680
Would you say that that was pretty much

3017
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:22,860
the thing?

3018
01:49:22,860 --> 01:49:23,360
Yes, absolutely.

3019
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:25,420
So, immigration, that's the thing.

3020
01:49:25,780 --> 01:49:28,800
Everybody just wants it to stop, particularly in

3021
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,260
Europe, but we had it here, like, no,

3022
01:49:30,460 --> 01:49:31,440
we just want it to stop.

3023
01:49:31,580 --> 01:49:33,280
Which is funny, because people are like, whoa,

3024
01:49:33,340 --> 01:49:34,720
they're going to deport the moms!

3025
01:49:34,940 --> 01:49:36,840
Okay, we wanted it to stop, we voted

3026
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,380
for it, we're actually getting what we voted

3027
01:49:38,380 --> 01:49:38,660
for.

3028
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:39,380
Surprise, surprise.

3029
01:49:39,380 --> 01:49:43,020
So, this was about immigration.

3030
01:49:44,060 --> 01:49:46,700
And the discussion on the table in the

3031
01:49:46,700 --> 01:49:50,380
parliament was about immigration, and they couldn't get

3032
01:49:50,380 --> 01:49:50,800
it through.

3033
01:49:50,940 --> 01:49:53,060
His own coalition didn't have enough votes, so

3034
01:49:53,060 --> 01:49:53,880
he said, that's it.

3035
01:49:54,440 --> 01:49:55,260
We're done.

3036
01:49:55,820 --> 01:49:56,900
We're not going to be a part of

3037
01:49:56,900 --> 01:49:57,340
the coalition.

3038
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,720
And then the prime minister, rage quit.

3039
01:50:00,180 --> 01:50:01,120
I'm out too!

3040
01:50:03,020 --> 01:50:03,760
Rage quit.

3041
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,300
No one even, this guy was, I mean,

3042
01:50:07,300 --> 01:50:08,920
he might as well have been invisible.

3043
01:50:09,300 --> 01:50:11,340
He spoke a little bit, but he was

3044
01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:13,320
a spoke, he was a figurehead.

3045
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:14,960
And now I understand why.

3046
01:50:15,020 --> 01:50:17,640
I think it's brilliant, because now we'll have

3047
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:21,420
elections again, I think September, October, and this

3048
01:50:21,420 --> 01:50:23,960
is going to be the issue, and Geert

3049
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:27,820
Wilders will be the guy who put his

3050
01:50:27,820 --> 01:50:30,000
career on the line for it, and I

3051
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,320
think he will be elected with an overwhelming

3052
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:33,060
majority.

3053
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:33,860
Here's the report.

3054
01:50:33,860 --> 01:50:35,820
Hold on.

3055
01:50:35,980 --> 01:50:36,560
What?

3056
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:38,880
That's a gamble, isn't it?

3057
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,800
He's been gambling with his life for 25

3058
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:42,540
years.

3059
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:48,360
Now, he's, again, he's under constant surveillance because,

3060
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,700
you know, he's pretty much like, oh, here's

3061
01:50:51,700 --> 01:50:52,860
a cartoon of Mohammed.

3062
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:54,900
You know, that's...

3063
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:58,400
He's pretty much made it very clear where

3064
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,620
he stands on this, and if you ask

3065
01:51:00,620 --> 01:51:02,540
anyone in Holland, like, oh, Geert Wilders.

3066
01:51:03,460 --> 01:51:05,020
Geert isn't doing his job.

3067
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:05,900
Who's this guy?

3068
01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:08,460
And I think he forced this whole issue.

3069
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,040
The cabinet only formed it, like, six months

3070
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:11,260
ago.

3071
01:51:11,340 --> 01:51:14,220
They couldn't form the cabinet for nine months.

3072
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,540
It was a long, long time.

3073
01:51:17,060 --> 01:51:21,360
So I think he really pushed this episode

3074
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,280
so that they can have new elections and

3075
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:24,660
everyone's going to be like, this is the

3076
01:51:24,660 --> 01:51:25,280
only guy.

3077
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:26,680
Immigration is it.

3078
01:51:26,740 --> 01:51:27,500
We want him.

3079
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,280
He made the announcements online this Tuesday with

3080
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:31,960
a message posted on X.

3081
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,940
No signature for our asylum plans, no amendment

3082
01:51:34,940 --> 01:51:36,160
to the coalition deal.

3083
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:38,180
The PVV is leaving the coalition.

3084
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:42,020
Geert Wilders' departure due to disagreements on immigration

3085
01:51:42,020 --> 01:51:44,100
has caused the government to collapse.

3086
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,620
And as the prime minister promptly resigned, Wilders

3087
01:51:47,620 --> 01:51:49,520
is hoping he can grab hold of the

3088
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:50,200
empty seat.

3089
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,720
With your political career and here?

3090
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:56,800
Actually, I'm going to be the next prime

3091
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:57,760
minister of the Netherlands.

3092
01:51:58,020 --> 01:51:59,720
I'll stand in the elections so the Party

3093
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,560
for Freedom becomes more popular than ever.

3094
01:52:01,820 --> 01:52:04,660
The coalition was formed last July, and finding

3095
01:52:04,660 --> 01:52:07,780
middle ground has been an almost impossible task.

3096
01:52:07,980 --> 01:52:10,640
The country's minister for foreign affairs criticised the

3097
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,100
timing of Wilders' decision.

3098
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:12,960
It's irresponsible.

3099
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:14,820
There's a war in Europe just a few

3100
01:52:14,820 --> 01:52:15,700
hours away from here.

3101
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:17,720
There are wars all around Europe and the

3102
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:18,220
Middle East.

3103
01:52:18,340 --> 01:52:18,440
Wars?

3104
01:52:18,860 --> 01:52:21,300
Trump's imposed tariffs and there are serious trade

3105
01:52:21,300 --> 01:52:23,160
issues for a country that has such an

3106
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:24,300
open economy as ours.

3107
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,520
I think it's scandalous that he resigned from

3108
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,180
the negotiating table at this moment.

3109
01:52:28,500 --> 01:52:30,420
But for opposition groups such as the Labour

3110
01:52:30,420 --> 01:52:32,940
Party, early elections would be a chance to

3111
01:52:32,940 --> 01:52:34,700
reshuffle the political landscape.

3112
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,580
Well, I think it's an opportunity for all

3113
01:52:36,580 --> 01:52:39,220
democratic parties to rid ourselves of the extremes

3114
01:52:39,220 --> 01:52:41,800
because it's clear that with the extremes you

3115
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:42,260
can't govern.

3116
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:45,820
When things get difficult, they run away.

3117
01:52:46,180 --> 01:52:48,700
Elections aren't expected to take place before October,

3118
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,360
and considering how fragmented the Dutch political scene

3119
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,300
is, agreeing to a coalition could take many

3120
01:52:55,300 --> 01:52:56,000
months more.

3121
01:52:57,300 --> 01:53:00,900
So, no mention of the real issue in

3122
01:53:00,900 --> 01:53:02,440
that report, strangely enough.

3123
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:06,020
But I think it's probably a very good

3124
01:53:06,020 --> 01:53:08,940
bet that he's going to be extremely popular

3125
01:53:08,940 --> 01:53:10,780
and of course now it all depends on

3126
01:53:10,780 --> 01:53:14,620
how they campaign for the next five, six

3127
01:53:14,620 --> 01:53:15,360
months or so.

3128
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:18,700
It will be determined somewhat by the media

3129
01:53:18,700 --> 01:53:19,840
and how they handle this.

3130
01:53:21,020 --> 01:53:25,300
The media could be pro-immigration and...

3131
01:53:25,300 --> 01:53:27,700
Well, yes, but you have to know that

3132
01:53:27,700 --> 01:53:29,340
the Dutch are rioting now.

3133
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,480
There are small towns everywhere where they are

3134
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,700
bombarding the city council.

3135
01:53:35,980 --> 01:53:37,380
They're throwing eggs at them.

3136
01:53:37,540 --> 01:53:38,400
They don't want the...

3137
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:38,500
Eggs?

3138
01:53:38,620 --> 01:53:39,000
Oh yeah.

3139
01:53:39,660 --> 01:53:40,020
Good.

3140
01:53:40,500 --> 01:53:42,240
They don't want the asylum center.

3141
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,740
You can't ignore that news.

3142
01:53:44,820 --> 01:53:46,340
That news is just too big.

3143
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:47,540
They're everywhere.

3144
01:53:47,540 --> 01:53:50,580
The Netherlands does have regional news.

3145
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:52,820
And, you know what?

3146
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:54,840
It's like every socialist country.

3147
01:53:55,420 --> 01:53:57,120
Everyone goes, oh yeah, yeah.

3148
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:58,540
In public, like, oh yeah.

3149
01:53:59,020 --> 01:54:01,380
But in private, like, meh, screw these guys.

3150
01:54:01,480 --> 01:54:03,120
I want this guy builders.

3151
01:54:03,660 --> 01:54:06,380
So, ultimately, your vote is a private affair

3152
01:54:06,380 --> 01:54:07,960
and I think he will be voted in

3153
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:09,800
and I think he will make big moves

3154
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:10,380
in the Netherlands.

3155
01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:13,140
The funny thing is, they now have what

3156
01:54:13,140 --> 01:54:17,460
they call a caretaker government in the interim.

3157
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,940
So, we'll continue to govern as if nothing

3158
01:54:19,940 --> 01:54:20,380
happened.

3159
01:54:21,700 --> 01:54:23,220
It's really the funniest thing.

3160
01:54:23,540 --> 01:54:24,700
A caretaker government.

3161
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,900
And, well, you know, there's a little problem

3162
01:54:27,900 --> 01:54:30,080
with this because we have the big NATO

3163
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:31,280
splash coming up.

3164
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:36,460
So, Dutch Minister of Defense, Ruben Bricklemans, what

3165
01:54:36,460 --> 01:54:37,540
are you going to do about it?

3166
01:54:37,740 --> 01:54:40,640
Two days ago in the Netherlands, the coalition

3167
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:44,340
government collapsed and I want to stress here

3168
01:54:44,860 --> 01:54:47,400
at the NATO headquarter that it doesn't mean

3169
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:52,060
anything for our defense and for foreign policy.

3170
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:56,100
We, as a caretaker government, decided to act

3171
01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:58,180
as if we are a regular government and

3172
01:54:58,180 --> 01:54:59,840
just to continue business as usual.

3173
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,260
Business as usual, everybody, which means we're going

3174
01:55:03,260 --> 01:55:04,260
to spend your money.

3175
01:55:04,500 --> 01:55:07,520
International threats do not diminish if there are

3176
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:09,180
domestic political issues in the Netherlands.

3177
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:11,060
So, we will continue in the same way.

3178
01:55:11,060 --> 01:55:14,120
Also, in preparation for the NATO summit, which

3179
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:15,660
I expect is going to be an historic

3180
01:55:15,660 --> 01:55:15,980
summit.

3181
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:18,680
We, as a host country, want to make

3182
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:19,600
this a big success.

3183
01:55:20,460 --> 01:55:23,200
And we will do all the necessary preparations

3184
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:27,220
of course to make this summit a success.

3185
01:55:27,780 --> 01:55:30,780
And the participants will not see or experience

3186
01:55:30,780 --> 01:55:33,540
anything different, given the fact that we in

3187
01:55:33,540 --> 01:55:35,280
the Netherlands now have a caretaker government.

3188
01:55:35,740 --> 01:55:37,220
Of course, today is also going to be

3189
01:55:37,220 --> 01:55:40,220
important to make sure that the 32 allies

3190
01:55:40,220 --> 01:55:43,300
get more aligned towards a new defense investment

3191
01:55:43,300 --> 01:55:43,600
pledge.

3192
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:45,640
And I expect that we will make further

3193
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:46,000
progress.

3194
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,280
What are the capability targets for the Netherlands?

3195
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,040
Can you go into more details on what

3196
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:51,100
you will be focusing?

3197
01:55:51,940 --> 01:55:53,820
Again, everyone is on the same script.

3198
01:55:53,940 --> 01:55:54,540
The capability.

3199
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:56,460
You mean how much money we're going to

3200
01:55:56,460 --> 01:55:56,700
spend?

3201
01:55:56,820 --> 01:55:57,780
Yeah, we call that capability.

3202
01:55:58,180 --> 01:56:00,580
Of course, I'm not allowed to share any

3203
01:56:00,580 --> 01:56:02,620
specifics about that, but what we do see

3204
01:56:02,620 --> 01:56:05,040
in general, of course, is that NATO is

3205
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:08,420
requiring more from us, because the threat, especially

3206
01:56:08,420 --> 01:56:09,600
by Russia, is increasing.

3207
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,960
We made a calculation of what those additional

3208
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,420
capability targets mean financially for the Netherlands.

3209
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,280
And if you calculate this, then it means

3210
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:20,980
that we should spend in the medium term,

3211
01:56:21,060 --> 01:56:23,140
we should spend 3.5% at least

3212
01:56:23,140 --> 01:56:26,560
on defense, which in the Netherlands means an

3213
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:31,040
additional 16 to 19 billion addition to our

3214
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:31,680
current budget.

3215
01:56:32,180 --> 01:56:34,020
And that's what we also shared with Parliament.

3216
01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:36,880
So this is what NATO is expecting from

3217
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:37,140
us.

3218
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:39,920
But what we will decide in terms of

3219
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,700
a new defense investment plan, a new NATO

3220
01:56:41,700 --> 01:56:43,900
norm, that's of course a political decision which

3221
01:56:43,900 --> 01:56:44,680
we will further discuss.

3222
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:46,700
There you go.

3223
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,960
That's fine and dandy, all that stuff, but

3224
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:54,480
how does this affect the relationship within the

3225
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,640
EU, which is all pro-immigration?

3226
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:01,560
Well, that's why Wilders is counting on his,

3227
01:57:01,620 --> 01:57:04,620
what we call the achterbom, or the everyone

3228
01:57:04,620 --> 01:57:06,520
in the back, who is all going to

3229
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:07,660
rise up and vote for it.

3230
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,520
Yeah, but again, the question, I'll ask it

3231
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:11,860
again.

3232
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,840
How does that affect the relationship of the

3233
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,540
Netherlands within the EU?

3234
01:57:16,980 --> 01:57:17,820
It'll be horrible.

3235
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:19,260
Of course.

3236
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,500
Because the EU has worked with Hungary, which

3237
01:57:22,500 --> 01:57:24,640
refuses to take any immigrants at all.

3238
01:57:25,060 --> 01:57:27,720
He will be labeled a Nazi, he will

3239
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,600
be labeled a dictator, he will be labeled

3240
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:31,520
all of these things.

3241
01:57:31,660 --> 01:57:34,100
Far-right, ultra-far-right, I don't know

3242
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:34,920
what they'll make of it.

3243
01:57:35,660 --> 01:57:36,980
Oh yeah, of course not.

3244
01:57:37,820 --> 01:57:39,780
But this is why the Dutch voted for

3245
01:57:39,780 --> 01:57:40,720
him in the first place.

3246
01:57:41,380 --> 01:57:42,340
They're sick of it.

3247
01:57:42,900 --> 01:57:43,800
I've said this before.

3248
01:57:43,900 --> 01:57:44,680
They're sick of it.

3249
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:45,720
But they have no voice.

3250
01:57:45,860 --> 01:57:46,380
This is the only guy.

3251
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,160
And he just didn't have enough power, enough

3252
01:57:49,700 --> 01:57:50,100
votes.

3253
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,620
Talk to Swedes, for example, which have the

3254
01:57:52,620 --> 01:57:53,420
same problem.

3255
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:56,640
Don't rise up.

3256
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,240
I don't see the Swedes being more passive

3257
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,260
than the Dutch, although the Dutch were world

3258
01:58:02,780 --> 01:58:03,260
conquerors.

3259
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,260
They were big shots in the 1600s.

3260
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,280
They did give up their bikes within 24

3261
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:08,780
hours.

3262
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:11,220
Yeah, well, that's true.

3263
01:58:12,420 --> 01:58:15,300
That is a classic no-agenda callback, by

3264
01:58:15,300 --> 01:58:15,680
the way.

3265
01:58:15,700 --> 01:58:16,540
Yeah, that's a good one.

3266
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:17,880
Elon Musk just tweeted.

3267
01:58:17,940 --> 01:58:18,800
You ready for this?

3268
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:20,820
Oh, now we're going to the tweet wars.

3269
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,220
Time to drop the really big bomb.

3270
01:58:25,140 --> 01:58:27,400
Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.

3271
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,400
That is the real reason they have not

3272
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:30,240
been made public.

3273
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,140
Have a nice day, DJT.

3274
01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:33,500
That is a good one.

3275
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:35,120
Woo!

3276
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:37,720
That's awesome.

3277
01:58:38,900 --> 01:58:41,100
Well, actually, that may be, if we're going

3278
01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:42,860
to go with the thesis, or you are,

3279
01:58:42,940 --> 01:58:45,380
at least, and I'm not in total disagreement,

3280
01:58:46,060 --> 01:58:48,160
with the thesis that this is a bullcrap

3281
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:53,040
play we're witnessing, a staged play, this would

3282
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,020
be the rationale for rolling out all the

3283
01:58:56,020 --> 01:58:56,920
Epstein files.

3284
01:58:57,140 --> 01:58:59,220
To prove Musk wrong.

3285
01:58:59,420 --> 01:58:59,900
Of course.

3286
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:01,680
He's in on it.

3287
01:59:01,860 --> 01:59:04,980
In fact, it may be Trump having Musk

3288
01:59:04,980 --> 01:59:07,380
do this because he knows he's not in

3289
01:59:07,380 --> 01:59:08,820
the files, but he's a little...

3290
01:59:08,820 --> 01:59:12,220
Trump himself, I believe this is a possibility.

3291
01:59:12,780 --> 01:59:16,920
Trump himself is irked with Pam Bondage for

3292
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,280
sitting on these files.

3293
01:59:18,540 --> 01:59:20,040
Yep, and now they got to come out

3294
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:21,620
because he has to prove he's not in

3295
01:59:21,620 --> 01:59:21,740
them.

3296
01:59:22,100 --> 01:59:23,280
Everything will be released.

3297
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:24,400
Everything.

3298
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:25,500
Every last drop.

3299
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,040
You know, speaking of such, there is, you

3300
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:30,640
want to hear some Hill Country gossip?

3301
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:32,560
No.

3302
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:33,560
Do I want it?

3303
01:59:33,620 --> 01:59:35,240
This is all I do the show.

3304
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:37,260
The only reason I'm still doing the show

3305
01:59:37,260 --> 01:59:38,360
is because of this.

3306
01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:40,620
Four more years of this.

3307
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:42,420
As long as I stay in Fredericksburg, we're

3308
01:59:42,420 --> 01:59:42,980
good to go.

3309
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,260
The ladies had a lunch the other day.

3310
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:48,440
The ladies had a lunch.

3311
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:49,320
Were you at the ladies' lunch?

3312
01:59:49,340 --> 01:59:50,000
Am I a lady?

3313
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:50,520
No!

3314
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:51,840
This is ladies who lunch.

3315
01:59:53,220 --> 01:59:55,100
How did you get wind of it?

3316
01:59:55,340 --> 01:59:57,220
My wife is my shoe.

3317
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:58,960
Oh, she is in the ladies' lunch.

3318
01:59:58,980 --> 01:59:59,800
Of course she is!

3319
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,840
Everybody wants Tina Currie at their party.

3320
02:00:02,980 --> 02:00:03,940
You have a mole.

3321
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:05,300
Yes, I do.

3322
02:00:06,100 --> 02:00:07,940
And she'll sit right there and say, Adam's

3323
02:00:07,940 --> 02:00:09,920
going to talk about this, and I think

3324
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:10,540
they like it.

3325
02:00:12,460 --> 02:00:14,360
Most people like to be talked about.

3326
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:17,920
And these are successful women who have had

3327
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:19,000
successful careers.

3328
02:00:19,380 --> 02:00:21,640
This one actually still has a successful career.

3329
02:00:22,420 --> 02:00:23,480
And here's what she said.

3330
02:00:24,660 --> 02:00:26,000
World War III is coming.

3331
02:00:26,300 --> 02:00:27,400
World War III is coming.

3332
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:31,100
Because all the names, everything's going to come

3333
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:32,500
out, and they need a distraction.

3334
02:00:36,180 --> 02:00:39,400
So let's have a nuclear war instead of,

3335
02:00:39,540 --> 02:00:41,680
you know, to distract us from who's on

3336
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:42,220
the list.

3337
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:44,380
Wow, what logic.

3338
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:45,800
I love it!

3339
02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:47,940
I love the ladies who lunch.

3340
02:00:48,740 --> 02:00:49,800
This is the best, man.

3341
02:00:50,500 --> 02:00:51,880
I mean, I used to have to search

3342
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:52,360
for this stuff.

3343
02:00:52,460 --> 02:00:53,460
Now it just gets hand delivered.

3344
02:00:53,660 --> 02:00:54,740
And now it just comes right to you.

3345
02:00:54,820 --> 02:00:56,120
It's dropped in your lap.

3346
02:00:56,220 --> 02:00:56,800
I know.

3347
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:58,140
It's the easiest work ever.

3348
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:01,360
It's fantastic.

3349
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:04,500
I think you're bang on about this.

3350
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,380
This is the perfect setup.

3351
02:01:08,700 --> 02:01:10,280
And now we have to release it all.

3352
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:12,320
And that does mean some names will come

3353
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:12,500
out.

3354
02:01:12,620 --> 02:01:14,780
Now, will that necessitate World War III?

3355
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:16,180
I don't know.

3356
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:17,400
I doubt it.

3357
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:18,900
I highly doubt it.

3358
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,640
I think Bono's on there, though.

3359
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:23,200
Bono?

3360
02:01:24,460 --> 02:01:26,000
He was just on Rogan.

3361
02:01:26,060 --> 02:01:27,360
I haven't watched it yet, but he was

3362
02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:27,740
on Rogan.

3363
02:01:27,740 --> 02:01:28,780
Bono's all over the place.

3364
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:32,020
He's creating screens.

3365
02:01:33,820 --> 02:01:36,020
Bono is all of a sudden appearing because

3366
02:01:36,020 --> 02:01:38,140
it turns out that Bono is on the

3367
02:01:38,140 --> 02:01:39,960
flight logs at least five times, and there's

3368
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:40,580
some name.

3369
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:44,900
There's some pictures of him floating around in

3370
02:01:44,900 --> 02:01:45,440
memes.

3371
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:47,360
I haven't put him in the newsletter because

3372
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,160
I think it's a scandal.

3373
02:01:50,060 --> 02:01:50,160
Really?

3374
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:52,140
Of all the people, Bono?

3375
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:53,620
Huh.

3376
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:56,360
Well, that's interesting.

3377
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:58,760
That's what accounts for a lot of Bono's

3378
02:01:58,760 --> 02:01:59,320
appearances.

3379
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,600
And he shows up on Rogan?

3380
02:02:02,740 --> 02:02:02,980
What?

3381
02:02:03,500 --> 02:02:04,500
I saw that.

3382
02:02:04,500 --> 02:02:04,880
Yeah.

3383
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:07,320
That's interesting.

3384
02:02:08,620 --> 02:02:11,860
I think it's possible that this is all

3385
02:02:11,860 --> 02:02:14,820
a one-two punch, and it's all orchestrated

3386
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:17,660
between Trump and Musk.

3387
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:19,860
They would get picked up by the media

3388
02:02:19,860 --> 02:02:21,500
because it looks as though they're having a

3389
02:02:21,500 --> 02:02:24,720
feud, and the media hates Trump to such

3390
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:26,140
an extreme that they're going to...

3391
02:02:26,140 --> 02:02:26,720
Oh, here it is.

3392
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:27,360
Breaking news.

3393
02:02:27,500 --> 02:02:28,020
Just in.

3394
02:02:28,220 --> 02:02:31,160
New war of words erupts between Trump and

3395
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:31,520
Musk.

3396
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:34,000
Big, ugly battle, says Fox.

3397
02:02:34,740 --> 02:02:35,440
Oh, man.

3398
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:37,260
Oh, Fox is a sucker for it, too.

3399
02:02:37,380 --> 02:02:40,400
BBC, BBC, Trump and Musk spar in public

3400
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:40,920
fallout.

3401
02:02:40,980 --> 02:02:42,440
It's all on the quads, John.

3402
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:43,180
It's everywhere.

3403
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:45,500
It's burning my retinas.

3404
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:47,400
It's on the quads.

3405
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:50,580
Talking about Fox being in the...

3406
02:02:50,580 --> 02:02:52,060
You know, we heard that clip that we

3407
02:02:52,060 --> 02:02:55,100
played a few times ago about the...

3408
02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:55,680
I forget.

3409
02:02:55,820 --> 02:02:58,300
It was Tucker interviewing somebody, and they mentioned

3410
02:02:58,300 --> 02:02:59,800
that Fox is really a bunch of liberals,

3411
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:01,420
and you always like to say...

3412
02:03:01,420 --> 02:03:03,260
Yeah, it's run by Democrats, yeah.

3413
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:09,800
Here's a clip mentioning Fox of the five...

3414
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:12,420
This is the Waters clip at the bottom.

3415
02:03:12,980 --> 02:03:15,460
This is from the five, and this is

3416
02:03:15,460 --> 02:03:16,300
a...

3417
02:03:16,300 --> 02:03:17,840
At the end of show, they do some

3418
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:19,220
letters to the...

3419
02:03:19,220 --> 02:03:20,020
They do letters.

3420
02:03:20,260 --> 02:03:22,840
They read letters, and the question is what

3421
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:24,980
would you do if you were a scammer,

3422
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:27,840
and you were going to scam somebody, and

3423
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:32,640
now it goes to Waters about what were

3424
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:33,300
you going to do if you were going

3425
02:03:33,300 --> 02:03:35,980
to scam somebody, and he has this kind

3426
02:03:35,980 --> 02:03:37,240
of crazy tale.

3427
02:03:39,340 --> 02:03:41,560
Gutfeld on the show says, oh, this is

3428
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:42,120
meta.

3429
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:45,720
I'm going to give you the headline so

3430
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:46,380
you can follow it.

3431
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:49,980
Waters says, well, if I was going to

3432
02:03:49,980 --> 02:03:53,100
scam somebody, I'd pretend to be a conservative,

3433
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:55,460
and then work my way up the ladder

3434
02:03:55,460 --> 02:03:57,340
and get my own TV show and then

3435
02:03:57,340 --> 02:03:59,380
stay there and never mention it to anybody.

3436
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:01,120
If you were a...

3437
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:01,620
Oh, sorry.

3438
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:02,480
Wait, wait, wait.

3439
02:04:02,580 --> 02:04:04,000
I've got to do the whole thing.

3440
02:04:04,180 --> 02:04:04,420
All right.

3441
02:04:07,100 --> 02:04:10,720
Gutfeld says that's meta, meaning it refers to

3442
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:13,000
something that's actually going on at Fox, and

3443
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:18,340
then he says it's meta-meta because Shannon

3444
02:04:18,340 --> 02:04:22,860
Bream is sitting right next to Waters.

3445
02:04:22,860 --> 02:04:25,320
She's the one this is targeted at, and

3446
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:27,320
Gutfeld kind of hints at that when he

3447
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,140
asks her the same question next, and she's

3448
02:04:30,140 --> 02:04:31,140
really...

3449
02:04:31,700 --> 02:04:34,380
Shannon Bream, I've always believed, because I've gotten

3450
02:04:34,380 --> 02:04:37,420
evidence of her not being a big supporter

3451
02:04:37,420 --> 02:04:37,980
of Trump.

3452
02:04:39,980 --> 02:04:45,660
She's a beauty queen in every sense of

3453
02:04:45,660 --> 02:04:47,820
the word, but I've never thought she was

3454
02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:48,420
a conservative.

3455
02:04:49,500 --> 02:04:51,840
I think she's the phony they're talking about.

3456
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:52,920
Listen to this.

3457
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:54,860
This is from Frenchie.

3458
02:04:54,980 --> 02:04:57,180
If you were a con artist, what would

3459
02:04:57,180 --> 02:04:58,820
your scam be?

3460
02:04:59,060 --> 02:04:59,360
Jesse?

3461
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:02,580
I would pretend to be conservative, and then

3462
02:05:02,580 --> 02:05:04,580
I would get on television and dress really

3463
02:05:04,580 --> 02:05:05,000
nicely.

3464
02:05:05,660 --> 02:05:05,760
Very convincing.

3465
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,200
And then I would just climb the corporate

3466
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:09,380
ladder until I had a show and then

3467
02:05:09,380 --> 02:05:10,980
just stay there for as long as I

3468
02:05:10,980 --> 02:05:11,220
could.

3469
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:15,160
Very convincing.

3470
02:05:15,180 --> 02:05:18,440
That was so meta that it's actually meta

3471
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:19,000
-meta.

3472
02:05:20,380 --> 02:05:22,900
Shannon, you would pretend to be a very

3473
02:05:22,900 --> 02:05:23,140
religious...

3474
02:05:23,140 --> 02:05:24,540
Somebody who could actually cook, yes.

3475
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,280
Somebody who actually loves the Bible.

3476
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:31,500
You could be a Satanist that's rising up.

3477
02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:32,740
No, I could not.

3478
02:05:32,980 --> 02:05:33,440
I could not.

3479
02:05:33,500 --> 02:05:35,000
No, I would try to convince people that

3480
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:35,560
I can cook.

3481
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:40,680
Shannon Bream.

3482
02:05:40,980 --> 02:05:41,740
Oh, Shannon.

3483
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:43,420
She's meta-meta.

3484
02:05:43,700 --> 02:05:44,760
Okay, can I just say...

3485
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:45,300
Yeah, go ahead.

3486
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:46,820
No, nothing.

3487
02:05:46,820 --> 02:05:50,000
I just found that to be revealing.

3488
02:05:50,660 --> 02:05:52,640
They wanted to get it off their chest.

3489
02:05:52,820 --> 02:05:54,480
Shannon was at the table that day.

3490
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:55,720
She's not a normal person.

3491
02:05:55,820 --> 02:05:57,200
She's not normally on the five.

3492
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:00,500
It's usually the other one.

3493
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:02,140
Can't remember her name offhand.

3494
02:06:03,900 --> 02:06:04,860
The Blondie?

3495
02:06:04,940 --> 02:06:05,900
The one with the...

3496
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:07,140
Blondie, yes.

3497
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:10,500
The one that used to be Bush's press

3498
02:06:10,500 --> 02:06:10,780
secretary.

3499
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:11,960
I can't remember her name.

3500
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:13,600
McEnany?

3501
02:06:13,820 --> 02:06:14,000
No.

3502
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:15,460
No, that's the other one.

3503
02:06:17,780 --> 02:06:19,980
It's ridiculous, but I can't remember her name.

3504
02:06:20,460 --> 02:06:21,420
She's very good.

3505
02:06:22,340 --> 02:06:22,940
Purina.

3506
02:06:23,420 --> 02:06:24,440
Dana Purino.

3507
02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:25,660
Purino.

3508
02:06:26,140 --> 02:06:26,740
Purina.

3509
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:28,720
Purina.

3510
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:29,320
Purina.

3511
02:06:29,900 --> 02:06:33,180
Anyway, so she's usually there, but so Shannon

3512
02:06:33,180 --> 02:06:35,060
comes on once in a while, and they

3513
02:06:35,060 --> 02:06:38,360
mention when Water says it, and he says,

3514
02:06:38,540 --> 02:06:40,000
this person's always going to be really well

3515
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:40,280
dressed.

3516
02:06:40,840 --> 02:06:44,260
Shannon on that table was dressed to the

3517
02:06:44,260 --> 02:06:44,840
tens.

3518
02:06:45,380 --> 02:06:46,620
I don't know what she was wearing, but

3519
02:06:46,620 --> 02:06:47,980
it was high end.

3520
02:06:48,860 --> 02:06:50,260
It's just so obvious.

3521
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:53,120
I'm surprised that she doesn't go to HR

3522
02:06:53,120 --> 02:06:55,460
about that situation.

3523
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:59,260
I'm doing you a favor by working here.

3524
02:06:59,860 --> 02:07:01,540
I don't think she said anything.

3525
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:05,820
I got problems with my eyes because now

3526
02:07:05,820 --> 02:07:08,420
of the quad box, two of them have

3527
02:07:08,420 --> 02:07:10,940
quad boxes in the quad box, all talking.

3528
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:13,640
It's a multi quad box.

3529
02:07:13,700 --> 02:07:14,560
And with that, I want to thank you

3530
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:15,920
for your courage in the morning to you,

3531
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:17,260
the man who put the C's in the

3532
02:07:17,260 --> 02:07:18,500
COVID vaccine access.

3533
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:20,280
Say hello to my friend on the other

3534
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:20,560
end.

3535
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:23,420
The one, the only Mr. John C.

3536
02:07:25,460 --> 02:07:25,840
Devorah.

3537
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:28,140
Good morning.

3538
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:33,080
And the night's out there.

3539
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:34,360
In the morning to the trolls in the

3540
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:34,860
troll room.

3541
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:36,140
Let me count you for a second here.

3542
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:40,560
1750.

3543
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:41,300
50 low.

3544
02:07:42,340 --> 02:07:43,040
We're below average.

3545
02:07:43,540 --> 02:07:44,580
We're way beyond.

3546
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:45,080
Go ahead.

3547
02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:45,720
Go ahead.

3548
02:07:45,940 --> 02:07:46,280
Say it.

3549
02:07:48,060 --> 02:07:48,740
Go ahead.

3550
02:07:49,980 --> 02:07:52,140
You're expecting me to say it's because the

3551
02:07:52,140 --> 02:07:53,400
first hour of the show?

3552
02:07:53,500 --> 02:07:55,620
Yep, that's what I'm expecting you to say.

3553
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:57,540
Nah.

3554
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:00,420
The trolls are in the troll room at

3555
02:08:00,420 --> 02:08:03,300
trollroom.io. That's where you can listen live.

3556
02:08:03,460 --> 02:08:05,000
Live and troll along.

3557
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:05,680
It's ephemeral.

3558
02:08:06,320 --> 02:08:07,560
It doesn't matter what you do.

3559
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:09,160
It just scrolls right off.

3560
02:08:09,940 --> 02:08:11,700
Did you use the word ephemeral?

3561
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:13,380
Is that not the correct term?

3562
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:15,060
I think it was a good word, but

3563
02:08:15,060 --> 02:08:17,160
it just stuns me that you'd say that

3564
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:18,220
out of the blue like that.

3565
02:08:20,260 --> 02:08:21,820
Well, if I had a British accent, would

3566
02:08:21,820 --> 02:08:22,640
it stun you less?

3567
02:08:23,900 --> 02:08:26,220
It is completely ephemeral what's happening in the

3568
02:08:26,220 --> 02:08:26,780
troll room.

3569
02:08:27,780 --> 02:08:29,680
And of course, you can also access the

3570
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:32,000
live stream with a modern podcast app.

3571
02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:33,760
Do not fall for the legacy apps.

3572
02:08:33,860 --> 02:08:36,380
They're doing you no good at all.

3573
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:39,720
It takes hours sometimes to get the show.

3574
02:08:39,940 --> 02:08:40,840
You don't want that.

3575
02:08:41,420 --> 02:08:42,820
What you want is you want a modern

3576
02:08:42,820 --> 02:08:43,540
podcast app.

3577
02:08:43,580 --> 02:08:46,140
You can get it at podcastapps.com.

3578
02:08:46,220 --> 02:08:46,740
What are you drinking?

3579
02:08:48,060 --> 02:08:48,600
Hop water.

3580
02:08:49,220 --> 02:08:49,940
Pop water?

3581
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:51,360
Yeah, hop water.

3582
02:08:51,460 --> 02:08:52,120
Oh, hop water.

3583
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:52,880
I thought you said pop water.

3584
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:54,320
Hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop.

3585
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:56,700
What is it?

3586
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:57,980
I don't know.

3587
02:08:58,600 --> 02:08:59,960
People just complaining.

3588
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:02,300
No, what are they complaining about?

3589
02:09:02,300 --> 02:09:02,800
I don't know.

3590
02:09:03,020 --> 02:09:03,900
They're trolls.

3591
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:04,760
That's what they do.

3592
02:09:07,340 --> 02:09:08,460
That's exactly how they sound.

3593
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:14,020
That's exactly what they sound like.

3594
02:09:14,100 --> 02:09:14,760
Take the mic off.

3595
02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:17,220
I did take the mic off.

3596
02:09:18,460 --> 02:09:19,720
Yeah, get a modern podcast app.

3597
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,480
The good thing is there are several great

3598
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:22,660
things.

3599
02:09:22,700 --> 02:09:24,380
The first thing is, when we go live,

3600
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:26,200
you get an alert on your phone that

3601
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:26,960
says, we're live.

3602
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:29,080
And then you hit that and you listen

3603
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:29,780
to the live stream.

3604
02:09:30,020 --> 02:09:31,380
No legacy app has that.

3605
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:33,940
When we upload the show, all of these

3606
02:09:33,940 --> 02:09:35,900
modern apps, they're all connected to the PodPing

3607
02:09:35,900 --> 02:09:36,360
system.

3608
02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:39,540
Actually, Sir Brian of London really concepted it

3609
02:09:39,540 --> 02:09:40,440
and built most of it.

3610
02:09:40,500 --> 02:09:41,340
I've got to give him props.

3611
02:09:41,740 --> 02:09:44,160
Sir Alex Gates jumped in, built all these

3612
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:44,880
different pieces.

3613
02:09:45,740 --> 02:09:48,260
It's a whole cacophony of his whole orchestra

3614
02:09:48,260 --> 02:09:49,760
of people putting this stuff together.

3615
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:51,480
Nobody owns this.

3616
02:09:51,560 --> 02:09:53,080
It's on an actual blockchain.

3617
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,300
Anybody can use it, any podcast app.

3618
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:59,040
Many hosting companies, hundreds of thousands of podcasts

3619
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:00,060
are using this.

3620
02:10:00,540 --> 02:10:02,000
But will Silicon Valley ever use it?

3621
02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:03,700
No, because it's not invented here.

3622
02:10:04,740 --> 02:10:07,440
Within 90 seconds of posting, you get your

3623
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:08,200
new podcast.

3624
02:10:08,580 --> 02:10:09,800
That's what I'm saying.

3625
02:10:10,380 --> 02:10:11,290
PodcastApps.com.

3626
02:10:11,860 --> 02:10:13,800
In our value for value model, which we

3627
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:17,000
diligently employ, there's so...

3628
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:20,400
The podcast industrial complex, all they talk about

3629
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:21,020
is stats.

3630
02:10:21,460 --> 02:10:22,480
And first parties...

3631
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:22,600
The data.

3632
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:24,020
Stats.

3633
02:10:24,020 --> 02:10:24,480
Stats.

3634
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:26,120
And first-party data.

3635
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:27,780
And we have to know more about who's

3636
02:10:27,780 --> 02:10:29,800
listening, who clicked play, how long they're listening

3637
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:30,020
for.

3638
02:10:30,260 --> 02:10:30,540
First-party data.

3639
02:10:30,540 --> 02:10:32,100
First-party data is what we need.

3640
02:10:32,220 --> 02:10:34,520
The apps need to be reporting on everybody

3641
02:10:35,020 --> 02:10:41,100
because they can't justify downloads to people actually

3642
02:10:41,100 --> 02:10:41,540
listening.

3643
02:10:42,020 --> 02:10:43,920
Particularly not from, there it is again, the

3644
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:44,580
legacy apps.

3645
02:10:44,660 --> 02:10:46,400
Apple auto-downloads.

3646
02:10:46,580 --> 02:10:47,680
It auto-downloads.

3647
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:49,880
What's the other one?

3648
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:51,520
Not overcast.

3649
02:10:51,940 --> 02:10:53,320
Also, auto-downloads.

3650
02:10:53,900 --> 02:10:54,540
And that's fine.

3651
02:10:54,700 --> 02:10:57,960
That's what podcast apps were supposed to do.

3652
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:01,080
But then they try to shoehorn this advertising

3653
02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:02,680
model in it and it doesn't work.

3654
02:11:02,740 --> 02:11:04,060
And like, well, there's an outrage when you

3655
02:11:04,060 --> 02:11:04,740
first-party data.

3656
02:11:05,320 --> 02:11:06,300
So we don't look at stats.

3657
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:07,540
We just make sure we can pay the

3658
02:11:07,540 --> 02:11:07,700
rent.

3659
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:09,520
That's why we've been running it for more

3660
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:10,820
than 17 years.

3661
02:11:11,300 --> 02:11:12,380
That's all we care about.

3662
02:11:12,620 --> 02:11:14,660
Value given, value received.

3663
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:15,060
Yeah.

3664
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:17,140
We probably could make more by scamming.

3665
02:11:17,140 --> 02:11:18,040
Easily.

3666
02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:20,480
Oh man, I could create downloaders.

3667
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:22,740
You can pay companies to do that.

3668
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:27,340
There's entire, I've seen videos of these farms

3669
02:11:27,340 --> 02:11:30,520
in China where they just have thousands of

3670
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:33,840
second-hand cell phones all in racks, like

3671
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:35,680
stacked next to each other like loaves of

3672
02:11:35,680 --> 02:11:35,980
bread.

3673
02:11:36,940 --> 02:11:37,740
And it's professional.

3674
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:39,900
They all have a USB cable going into

3675
02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:42,960
a port and all they're doing is scamming.

3676
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:46,140
It's sold to you as these are all

3677
02:11:46,140 --> 02:11:46,560
bots.

3678
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:48,800
They're download scams, trust me.

3679
02:11:48,860 --> 02:11:49,800
That's what they're really doing.

3680
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:50,580
It's money.

3681
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:51,880
Money in the bank, I tell you.

3682
02:11:52,020 --> 02:11:52,800
Money in the bank.

3683
02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:55,320
No, instead, we just give you the show.

3684
02:11:55,380 --> 02:11:56,760
We've been giving you the show for over

3685
02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:57,520
17 years.

3686
02:11:57,900 --> 02:11:59,240
If you get anything out of it, you

3687
02:11:59,240 --> 02:11:59,960
send it back to us.

3688
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:01,000
It's called Value for Value.

3689
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:01,780
It's very simple.

3690
02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:03,040
How much is up to you?

3691
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:04,300
Whatever you want to do is up to

3692
02:12:04,300 --> 02:12:04,400
you.

3693
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:05,380
We thank everybody.

3694
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:10,100
We close that loop by mentioning everyone with

3695
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:12,260
their numbers, whatever they sent us, because numerology

3696
02:12:12,260 --> 02:12:12,780
is important.

3697
02:12:12,780 --> 02:12:14,060
$50 or above.

3698
02:12:14,140 --> 02:12:15,580
Under that, we've kept that cap.

3699
02:12:15,860 --> 02:12:17,940
People want to remain anonymous and make sure

3700
02:12:17,940 --> 02:12:19,380
we don't screw it up because that's what

3701
02:12:19,380 --> 02:12:20,380
we'll do, inevitably.

3702
02:12:21,140 --> 02:12:23,140
We'll dox you for sure if we're not

3703
02:12:23,140 --> 02:12:23,440
careful.

3704
02:12:23,580 --> 02:12:24,880
So under $50, we just don't read.

3705
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:29,100
Now, as part of our Hollywood gamble and

3706
02:12:29,100 --> 02:12:31,420
gambit, we've created a gamble.

3707
02:12:31,660 --> 02:12:32,200
It's a gamble.

3708
02:12:32,540 --> 02:12:33,660
It's a great gamble.

3709
02:12:34,140 --> 02:12:37,080
We've created actual credits, which are just as

3710
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:39,680
valid as Hollywood credits with executive producer or

3711
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:40,940
associate executive producer.

3712
02:12:40,940 --> 02:12:43,780
Before we get to that, some people support

3713
02:12:43,780 --> 02:12:44,940
us with time and talent.

3714
02:12:47,350 --> 02:12:49,650
Time and talent comes in many different ways.

3715
02:12:50,090 --> 02:12:52,710
Organizing meetups, setting up websites, doing all kinds

3716
02:12:52,710 --> 02:12:53,390
of stuff for us.

3717
02:12:53,710 --> 02:12:56,010
And it's the artists, the artists who have

3718
02:12:56,010 --> 02:13:00,550
consistently delivered fantastic work for us, which always

3719
02:13:00,550 --> 02:13:04,130
delights people by showing you something on social

3720
02:13:04,130 --> 02:13:04,530
media.

3721
02:13:04,730 --> 02:13:05,710
It shows up in your podcast.

3722
02:13:05,890 --> 02:13:06,610
What is this?

3723
02:13:06,910 --> 02:13:08,390
Oh, it's no agenda again.

3724
02:13:08,690 --> 02:13:10,150
By the way, I think I sent you

3725
02:13:10,150 --> 02:13:12,210
an email about this because I heard you

3726
02:13:12,210 --> 02:13:14,710
and Andrew Horowitz talking about it on DH

3727
02:13:14,710 --> 02:13:16,790
Unplugged, which is a great podcast if you

3728
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:20,110
want to hear two guys talk about stocks

3729
02:13:20,110 --> 02:13:25,190
and economics and meta-analysis and other odd

3730
02:13:25,190 --> 02:13:27,290
things like AI art.

3731
02:13:29,290 --> 02:13:31,590
You listen to that podcast live on Tuesday

3732
02:13:31,590 --> 02:13:33,590
evenings, but it drops right after that.

3733
02:13:33,690 --> 02:13:35,390
So Wednesday is when people usually get it.

3734
02:13:35,770 --> 02:13:38,090
And again, you were complaining about the levels

3735
02:13:38,090 --> 02:13:40,730
of white and just the levels of color

3736
02:13:40,730 --> 02:13:43,550
in general in AI generated art.

3737
02:13:43,670 --> 02:13:45,930
And we're seeing it on our art generator,

3738
02:13:46,530 --> 02:13:47,630
noagendaartgenerator.com.

3739
02:13:47,710 --> 02:13:49,430
Yeah, I got another note from Animas.

3740
02:13:50,090 --> 02:13:50,510
Yes.

3741
02:13:51,250 --> 02:13:53,510
You were rude to him, if you don't

3742
02:13:53,510 --> 02:13:54,190
mind me saying.

3743
02:13:54,970 --> 02:13:56,710
I was probably gruff.

3744
02:13:57,390 --> 02:13:58,850
It was your typical...

3745
02:13:58,850 --> 02:14:01,410
I told him I was good to hear

3746
02:14:01,410 --> 02:14:01,910
from him.

3747
02:14:02,190 --> 02:14:03,430
You were rude.

3748
02:14:03,610 --> 02:14:04,870
You do this with people.

3749
02:14:05,690 --> 02:14:06,870
It's just my...

3750
02:14:08,570 --> 02:14:11,390
I'm running interference for you here, because I

3751
02:14:11,390 --> 02:14:11,990
know you.

3752
02:14:12,270 --> 02:14:14,290
This used to send me into a tailspin.

3753
02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:17,230
I'm like, Dvorak is such a douche.

3754
02:14:17,770 --> 02:14:18,390
I hate him.

3755
02:14:18,450 --> 02:14:19,570
I'm quitting the show.

3756
02:14:20,450 --> 02:14:21,070
Now I'm like...

3757
02:14:21,070 --> 02:14:21,350
Rage quit.

3758
02:14:21,530 --> 02:14:23,090
Now I'm like, it's just John.

3759
02:14:23,290 --> 02:14:23,690
Whatever.

3760
02:14:24,670 --> 02:14:26,250
People will forward me...

3761
02:14:26,250 --> 02:14:27,650
He says I was...

3762
02:14:27,650 --> 02:14:31,510
He accused me of being skeptical about something

3763
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:31,970
or other.

3764
02:14:32,290 --> 02:14:33,690
Hold on a second.

3765
02:14:33,690 --> 02:14:36,370
You see, you think everything's an accusation.

3766
02:14:36,550 --> 02:14:38,150
You're the one with the long toes.

3767
02:14:38,170 --> 02:14:38,430
Yes, I do.

3768
02:14:39,190 --> 02:14:40,410
You nailed it.

3769
02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:43,290
This is the understanding my response to everything.

3770
02:14:43,690 --> 02:14:46,170
I see everything as an accusation.

3771
02:14:46,430 --> 02:14:46,550
Yep.

3772
02:14:47,250 --> 02:14:47,850
Yes.

3773
02:14:48,350 --> 02:14:49,110
It's really interesting.

3774
02:14:49,110 --> 02:14:50,330
Yeah, I picked this up as a writer.

3775
02:14:51,110 --> 02:14:52,590
Is that where it's from?

3776
02:14:53,130 --> 02:14:53,390
Yeah.

3777
02:14:54,150 --> 02:14:55,390
Here, color...

3778
02:14:55,390 --> 02:14:55,890
Here.

3779
02:14:57,270 --> 02:14:59,110
Your response was amazing.

3780
02:14:59,830 --> 02:15:01,150
Skeptical of what?

3781
02:15:01,150 --> 02:15:03,950
I did that...

3782
02:15:03,950 --> 02:15:06,110
There's no tonal in the...

3783
02:15:06,110 --> 02:15:09,590
There's no mean looking emoji or anything.

3784
02:15:09,730 --> 02:15:11,470
There's no emoji with a mean face.

3785
02:15:11,870 --> 02:15:13,430
When you started...

3786
02:15:13,430 --> 02:15:14,550
I said it was this way.

3787
02:15:14,650 --> 02:15:15,810
This is the way it was presented.

3788
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:17,450
I'm skeptical of what?

3789
02:15:17,970 --> 02:15:19,190
No, there's no I'm.

3790
02:15:19,530 --> 02:15:20,550
So this is your problem.

3791
02:15:20,630 --> 02:15:21,850
Okay, skeptical of what?

3792
02:15:23,370 --> 02:15:24,330
Skeptical of what?

3793
02:15:24,450 --> 02:15:24,950
I'm just asking.

3794
02:15:25,610 --> 02:15:26,730
Skeptical of what?

3795
02:15:27,090 --> 02:15:29,130
Well, I'm going to try and explain it

3796
02:15:29,130 --> 02:15:29,410
to you.

3797
02:15:29,410 --> 02:15:31,310
You remember netiquette?

3798
02:15:31,430 --> 02:15:32,210
Do you remember netiquette?

3799
02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:34,570
No, you don't, because netiquette was never in

3800
02:15:34,570 --> 02:15:35,290
your etiquette.

3801
02:15:36,630 --> 02:15:40,690
When someone emails you a very thoughtful and

3802
02:15:40,690 --> 02:15:44,030
someone says John, I'm interested in the reason

3803
02:15:44,030 --> 02:15:46,230
for your skepticism so I can learn more.

3804
02:15:47,410 --> 02:15:50,390
So when you don't say, hi, Animas, thanks

3805
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:52,450
for being such a great supporter and once

3806
02:15:52,450 --> 02:15:54,290
again contributing to the conversation.

3807
02:15:55,510 --> 02:15:56,370
Skeptical of what?

3808
02:15:56,630 --> 02:15:56,810
No.

3809
02:15:56,810 --> 02:15:58,150
Skeptical of what?

3810
02:16:00,250 --> 02:16:01,630
I'm just helping you, brother.

3811
02:16:01,850 --> 02:16:02,630
It's okay.

3812
02:16:02,910 --> 02:16:03,570
Yeah, brother.

3813
02:16:04,530 --> 02:16:05,490
Keep going.

3814
02:16:07,070 --> 02:16:08,650
So I had a thought.

3815
02:16:08,890 --> 02:16:10,290
It's like all of a sudden it hit

3816
02:16:10,290 --> 02:16:10,470
me.

3817
02:16:10,590 --> 02:16:12,530
I know why the art is getting less

3818
02:16:12,530 --> 02:16:14,810
luminous and why there's no whites and there's

3819
02:16:14,810 --> 02:16:16,130
no dark, no blacks.

3820
02:16:16,730 --> 02:16:17,610
This is entropy.

3821
02:16:19,030 --> 02:16:22,110
AI is ingesting its own stuff and it's

3822
02:16:22,110 --> 02:16:23,790
like making a copy of a copy of

3823
02:16:23,790 --> 02:16:24,790
a copy of a copy.

3824
02:16:24,790 --> 02:16:27,110
And this was, of course, brought up on

3825
02:16:27,110 --> 02:16:29,050
the DHM Plug Show.

3826
02:16:29,330 --> 02:16:29,670
Oh, it was?

3827
02:16:30,070 --> 02:16:34,690
We brought it up because Horowitz, he uses

3828
02:16:34,690 --> 02:16:36,490
AI to create the art for the show.

3829
02:16:36,530 --> 02:16:38,350
And he's real proud of it.

3830
02:16:38,450 --> 02:16:39,969
And he's real proud of it and you

3831
02:16:39,969 --> 02:16:41,450
pooped all over him right away.

3832
02:16:42,530 --> 02:16:43,790
You think this is good?

3833
02:16:46,730 --> 02:16:48,709
No, you're right about that one.

3834
02:16:49,770 --> 02:16:51,490
You think this is good?

3835
02:16:52,670 --> 02:16:54,790
Well, I was a little, I was probably

3836
02:16:54,790 --> 02:16:55,990
that was yes.

3837
02:16:56,129 --> 02:16:56,410
Okay.

3838
02:16:57,250 --> 02:16:58,830
I'll accept that one.

3839
02:16:58,910 --> 02:17:00,010
Hey, it's Tuesday night.

3840
02:17:00,129 --> 02:17:01,370
You don't really want to do the show

3841
02:17:01,370 --> 02:17:01,730
at all.

3842
02:17:01,790 --> 02:17:02,870
You want to do it, but when it's

3843
02:17:02,870 --> 02:17:05,110
not Tuesday night, you could have other things

3844
02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:05,610
to do.

3845
02:17:05,650 --> 02:17:07,150
There's sports ball to watch.

3846
02:17:07,230 --> 02:17:07,830
I get it.

3847
02:17:08,150 --> 02:17:08,770
But you're committed.

3848
02:17:09,129 --> 02:17:09,870
But you're committed.

3849
02:17:09,969 --> 02:17:10,910
You're a committed guy.

3850
02:17:11,290 --> 02:17:15,750
In all these years, 1,770 episodes, you've

3851
02:17:15,750 --> 02:17:16,570
always showed up.

3852
02:17:16,570 --> 02:17:18,830
Except for one time, you were late because

3853
02:17:18,830 --> 02:17:22,650
your analog alarm clock didn't change time with

3854
02:17:22,650 --> 02:17:23,889
the daylight savings time.

3855
02:17:24,690 --> 02:17:27,170
Well, I don't remember that, but generally speaking,

3856
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:28,350
I'm punctual is the word.

3857
02:17:28,410 --> 02:17:29,170
Yeah, you are punctual.

3858
02:17:29,270 --> 02:17:29,850
Yes, you are.

3859
02:17:31,650 --> 02:17:34,250
Yes, I didn't find the art to be

3860
02:17:34,250 --> 02:17:37,049
that compelling that he would be happy about

3861
02:17:37,049 --> 02:17:37,250
it.

3862
02:17:37,590 --> 02:17:40,030
But we did bring up the muddiness and

3863
02:17:40,030 --> 02:17:40,570
it was muddy.

3864
02:17:40,709 --> 02:17:42,809
It was all this one tone of brown.

3865
02:17:43,030 --> 02:17:43,209
Right.

3866
02:17:43,290 --> 02:17:45,490
But what you didn't discuss this is entropy.

3867
02:17:45,670 --> 02:17:47,930
This is the beginnings of model collapse.

3868
02:17:48,370 --> 02:17:50,430
And I think that's exactly what we're seeing.

3869
02:17:50,990 --> 02:17:53,030
Particularly with the free stuff.

3870
02:17:53,650 --> 02:17:55,370
People using free stuff.

3871
02:17:56,730 --> 02:17:59,170
Give that model to those guys.

3872
02:17:59,450 --> 02:18:02,530
And I wonder if our AI prompt jockeys

3873
02:18:02,530 --> 02:18:03,709
if they're seeing that as well.

3874
02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:05,650
Because it's very apparent to us.

3875
02:18:05,709 --> 02:18:06,930
Everything's getting fuzzier.

3876
02:18:08,250 --> 02:18:10,129
The colors aren't vibrant.

3877
02:18:10,570 --> 02:18:13,190
And maybe that's why people are resorting to

3878
02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:14,770
making cartoonish artwork.

3879
02:18:14,950 --> 02:18:17,469
Because holy moly, there's a lot of it.

3880
02:18:19,129 --> 02:18:20,090
But first...

3881
02:18:20,090 --> 02:18:21,950
Wait before you go on.

3882
02:18:22,290 --> 02:18:23,709
I want to thank our artist.

3883
02:18:23,870 --> 02:18:25,190
We haven't thanked our artist yet.

3884
02:18:25,290 --> 02:18:27,950
Before you thank the artist, Stephen, because you

3885
02:18:27,950 --> 02:18:29,690
brought up all these sidebars.

3886
02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:33,150
And I apologize to Animus for being a

3887
02:18:33,150 --> 02:18:33,549
jerk.

3888
02:18:34,250 --> 02:18:35,110
It's good.

3889
02:18:35,309 --> 02:18:37,650
By your standards and probably by his.

3890
02:18:37,889 --> 02:18:38,170
Yep.

3891
02:18:38,170 --> 02:18:41,990
Not that he's emailed me or anything.

3892
02:18:42,170 --> 02:18:43,090
What's up with John?

3893
02:18:44,010 --> 02:18:46,090
What's wrong with this guy?

3894
02:18:47,370 --> 02:18:48,969
Here's a note from Darren O.

3895
02:18:50,650 --> 02:18:52,610
About Flux Context.

3896
02:18:54,209 --> 02:18:56,450
He says, ITM, I haven't had a chance

3897
02:18:56,450 --> 02:18:57,950
to play with the new Flux model yet,

3898
02:18:57,990 --> 02:19:00,309
but the existing ones were quite impressive at

3899
02:19:00,309 --> 02:19:01,690
creating realistic images.

3900
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:03,969
The Context mod, this was the tip of

3901
02:19:03,969 --> 02:19:04,850
the day for the last show.

3902
02:19:04,850 --> 02:19:07,570
And I asked Darren to look at it,

3903
02:19:07,610 --> 02:19:09,389
and he's already very familiar with all this

3904
02:19:09,389 --> 02:19:10,090
stuff going on.

3905
02:19:10,570 --> 02:19:14,389
He says, of course, the Context model really

3906
02:19:14,389 --> 02:19:17,209
seems to shine with image modifications.

3907
02:19:18,090 --> 02:19:21,490
Which is like I mentioned, taking somebody's head

3908
02:19:21,490 --> 02:19:22,969
and putting it on somebody else's head.

3909
02:19:23,570 --> 02:19:25,530
This will make it much harder for people

3910
02:19:25,530 --> 02:19:27,370
to distinguish between what is real and what

3911
02:19:27,370 --> 02:19:27,750
isn't.

3912
02:19:28,129 --> 02:19:32,889
If you want to frame someone, what's that

3913
02:19:32,889 --> 02:19:35,910
in your mouth, and you have an image

3914
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:38,230
of a room in their home from a

3915
02:19:38,230 --> 02:19:41,950
family snapshot, you can get instant believability.

3916
02:19:42,570 --> 02:19:43,090
Wow.

3917
02:19:43,330 --> 02:19:44,070
Instant believability.

3918
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:47,630
I'll let you know once I dig in,

3919
02:19:47,650 --> 02:19:48,970
but for now I'd say it's a pretty

3920
02:19:48,970 --> 02:19:50,090
good tip of the day.

3921
02:19:50,610 --> 02:19:50,770
Hmm.

3922
02:19:52,290 --> 02:19:55,370
Well, I think this is time for the

3923
02:19:55,370 --> 02:19:55,950
bonus clip.

3924
02:19:57,690 --> 02:19:58,690
Or maybe not.

3925
02:19:59,210 --> 02:19:59,890
No, yes.

3926
02:19:59,890 --> 02:20:01,950
This is a very, very big deal.

3927
02:20:02,530 --> 02:20:05,950
Facebook parent MetaPlatforms has announced that it is

3928
02:20:05,950 --> 02:20:09,070
going into a 20-year deal with nuclear

3929
02:20:09,070 --> 02:20:12,910
power provider Constellation Energy for a steady flow

3930
02:20:12,910 --> 02:20:16,730
of electricity to power its AI data centers.

3931
02:20:17,070 --> 02:20:19,210
And that deal follows a similar tie-up

3932
02:20:19,210 --> 02:20:23,610
between Constellation and Microsoft involving the Three Mile

3933
02:20:23,610 --> 02:20:26,910
Island nuclear power plant, also for Microsoft's AI

3934
02:20:26,910 --> 02:20:27,650
ambitions.

3935
02:20:27,650 --> 02:20:31,530
And these commitments highlight big tech's insatiable need

3936
02:20:31,530 --> 02:20:34,210
for electricity to fuel AI.

3937
02:20:34,610 --> 02:20:37,210
In fact, enough juice to power a small

3938
02:20:37,210 --> 02:20:37,610
city.

3939
02:20:37,890 --> 02:20:40,670
And on top of that, AI facilities require

3940
02:20:40,670 --> 02:20:44,190
enormous amounts of water to cool the equipment

3941
02:20:44,190 --> 02:20:47,190
because they're just running full throttle all the

3942
02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:47,630
time.

3943
02:20:47,950 --> 02:20:51,370
Now, what big tech wants you to focus

3944
02:20:51,370 --> 02:20:53,610
on is the benefits that could come from

3945
02:20:53,610 --> 02:20:57,250
AI, how society could change as productivity improves

3946
02:20:57,250 --> 02:21:00,330
and as it becomes infinitely easier to create

3947
02:21:00,330 --> 02:21:02,690
memes that you can post on Instagram and

3948
02:21:02,690 --> 02:21:03,150
Facebook.

3949
02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:06,070
On the other hand, this is an industry

3950
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:09,650
that is all but reinvigorating the nuclear power

3951
02:21:09,650 --> 02:21:11,770
industry, which was once pretty much on the

3952
02:21:11,770 --> 02:21:13,490
ropes as other fuel sources were found.

3953
02:21:13,870 --> 02:21:16,630
And now, big tech is bringing nuclear power

3954
02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:18,350
back in a big way.

3955
02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:20,250
So on the one hand, what we have

3956
02:21:20,250 --> 02:21:21,290
here is memes.

3957
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:23,690
On the other hand, Three Mile Island.

3958
02:21:23,690 --> 02:21:24,970
You figure it out.

3959
02:21:25,030 --> 02:21:25,750
There you go.

3960
02:21:25,830 --> 02:21:27,490
Memes versus Three Mile Island.

3961
02:21:27,690 --> 02:21:28,330
And our art.

3962
02:21:28,490 --> 02:21:29,450
And our art, that's right.

3963
02:21:29,470 --> 02:21:31,670
By the way, now Fox is calling it

3964
02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:32,730
the Big Ugly Battle.

3965
02:21:35,530 --> 02:21:37,390
Darren O'Neill brought us the artwork for

3966
02:21:37,390 --> 02:21:38,710
episode 1769.

3967
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:40,910
We titled that Mr. Umami.

3968
02:21:42,210 --> 02:21:42,810
That's right.

3969
02:21:43,430 --> 02:21:44,530
Remember that, everybody?

3970
02:21:44,830 --> 02:21:45,310
Umami.

3971
02:21:45,890 --> 02:21:46,370
Mouthfeel.

3972
02:21:47,050 --> 02:21:48,790
Yes, we had some debate about this.

3973
02:21:48,970 --> 02:21:49,490
We did.

3974
02:21:49,670 --> 02:21:52,050
And I came up with a thesis that

3975
02:21:52,050 --> 02:21:52,910
you agreed with.

3976
02:21:53,410 --> 02:21:57,410
So first of all, it was a cartoonish

3977
02:21:58,750 --> 02:22:03,590
depiction of a lorry driving into Russia with

3978
02:22:03,590 --> 02:22:06,870
a shed and a little happy drone smiling

3979
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:07,670
out of the back.

3980
02:22:09,170 --> 02:22:10,850
The whole idea was good.

3981
02:22:11,050 --> 02:22:13,910
Your objection, which was valid, is it said

3982
02:22:13,910 --> 02:22:16,090
created by Curry and Dvorak.

3983
02:22:16,210 --> 02:22:17,910
And that, of course, is not true.

3984
02:22:18,270 --> 02:22:19,290
It is not anything.

3985
02:22:19,450 --> 02:22:21,270
We don't use that byline.

3986
02:22:21,870 --> 02:22:23,650
But we still decided on using it.

3987
02:22:23,710 --> 02:22:24,310
You have a thesis.

3988
02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:26,270
Yes.

3989
02:22:27,070 --> 02:22:29,510
Because the piece I wanted was Rapid Human

3990
02:22:29,510 --> 02:22:30,050
Cloning.

3991
02:22:30,710 --> 02:22:33,990
Which was another cute piece by Digital2112man.

3992
02:22:35,390 --> 02:22:35,990
Oh, yeah.

3993
02:22:36,390 --> 02:22:37,790
Yeah, I remember this.

3994
02:22:38,910 --> 02:22:42,970
This is Darren O'Neill's alter ego.

3995
02:22:45,610 --> 02:22:48,010
Digital211man is Darren O'Neill.

3996
02:22:48,010 --> 02:22:50,250
And somebody out there, I figured in the

3997
02:22:50,250 --> 02:22:53,430
chat room, the troll room, could figure out

3998
02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:59,670
Digital2112man that's code for Darren O'Neill somehow.

3999
02:23:01,090 --> 02:23:03,590
This is Darren O'Neill's style.

4000
02:23:04,270 --> 02:23:04,890
Yes.

4001
02:23:05,570 --> 02:23:06,670
His sense of humor.

4002
02:23:07,950 --> 02:23:11,850
Everything about Digital211man is Darren O'Neill.

4003
02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:15,170
He's producing too much material.

4004
02:23:15,170 --> 02:23:16,230
We're outing you.

4005
02:23:16,270 --> 02:23:17,970
We're outing you, Darren O'Neill.

4006
02:23:18,630 --> 02:23:23,010
He's producing too much material to try to

4007
02:23:23,010 --> 02:23:24,150
win every show.

4008
02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:27,570
And he's decided that because it would look

4009
02:23:27,570 --> 02:23:29,870
ridiculous Darren O'Neill, Darren O'Neill.

4010
02:23:29,970 --> 02:23:32,110
He's cranking this stuff out left and right.

4011
02:23:32,130 --> 02:23:33,290
The code has already been cracked.

4012
02:23:36,090 --> 02:23:38,390
Is Darren O'Neill a fan of Rush?

4013
02:23:39,950 --> 02:23:42,970
Has he played Rush on his pre-show?

4014
02:23:43,970 --> 02:23:44,810
Yes, he has.

4015
02:23:44,810 --> 02:23:46,210
2-1-1-2.

4016
02:23:46,590 --> 02:23:48,670
That is code for the band Rush.

4017
02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:53,540
Interesting.

4018
02:23:53,980 --> 02:23:54,520
Could be.

4019
02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:59,380
We've determined that this is Darren O'Neill.

4020
02:24:00,200 --> 02:24:03,180
Or, or, or, AI has gone rogue and

4021
02:24:03,180 --> 02:24:04,720
has cloned Darren O'Neill.

4022
02:24:05,180 --> 02:24:06,220
That's possible.

4023
02:24:06,380 --> 02:24:07,600
This is also very possible.

4024
02:24:08,580 --> 02:24:11,320
AI is so dangerous that it's figured out

4025
02:24:11,320 --> 02:24:13,540
how to be just like Darren and is

4026
02:24:13,540 --> 02:24:15,320
registered at no agenda art generator.

4027
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:16,980
It's going to take over.

4028
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:21,960
So, obviously, the type of prompts, this is

4029
02:24:21,960 --> 02:24:26,940
like art detection where you find who's the

4030
02:24:26,940 --> 02:24:29,540
forged, where's the forged piece, what makes it

4031
02:24:29,540 --> 02:24:31,380
forged, what makes it fake.

4032
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:33,440
This is something you do if you're a

4033
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:33,900
hobbyist.

4034
02:24:34,620 --> 02:24:36,320
And this is what I have determined.

4035
02:24:37,240 --> 02:24:38,000
I think you're right.

4036
02:24:38,680 --> 02:24:39,380
It's obvious.

4037
02:24:40,560 --> 02:24:42,560
So, Darren, come clean and we'll let you

4038
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:43,080
off the hook.

4039
02:24:43,700 --> 02:24:44,180
Yeah.

4040
02:24:44,560 --> 02:24:46,660
If not, we'll still...

4041
02:24:46,660 --> 02:24:49,180
If not, the Digital 2-1-1-2

4042
02:24:49,180 --> 02:24:50,660
man has to reveal himself.

4043
02:24:50,680 --> 02:24:51,520
Yes, yes, he must decloak.

4044
02:24:51,520 --> 02:24:53,360
And I don't want to hear some phony

4045
02:24:53,360 --> 02:24:55,180
baloney as Darren's neighbor.

4046
02:24:56,360 --> 02:24:57,580
You don't know it's me.

4047
02:24:58,500 --> 02:24:59,240
Yeah, yeah.

4048
02:24:59,660 --> 02:25:01,720
It is quite obvious.

4049
02:25:02,420 --> 02:25:03,980
And it's all very cartoony.

4050
02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:04,980
It's kind of like...

4051
02:25:04,980 --> 02:25:06,920
And when you see the piece that we

4052
02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:08,760
chose by Darren and then you see the

4053
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:10,300
Digital 2-1-2...

4054
02:25:10,300 --> 02:25:12,060
You know, Blue Acorn may be Darren as

4055
02:25:12,060 --> 02:25:13,300
well, for all I know.

4056
02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:14,560
This may all be Darren.

4057
02:25:15,100 --> 02:25:17,560
Blue Acorn has a slightly different style.

4058
02:25:18,500 --> 02:25:21,740
Blue Acorn has a dimensionality to his art

4059
02:25:22,180 --> 02:25:24,700
that Darren never has, in terms of shading.

4060
02:25:25,060 --> 02:25:25,920
Well, I'm sick of it.

4061
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:26,780
I'm sick of it.

4062
02:25:27,420 --> 02:25:28,160
Stop it.

4063
02:25:28,500 --> 02:25:30,220
If you can't do anything about it, it's

4064
02:25:30,220 --> 02:25:30,800
too late.

4065
02:25:31,100 --> 02:25:32,080
I'm sick of all of it.

4066
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:33,060
I'm sick of it, I tell you.

4067
02:25:33,660 --> 02:25:35,080
All right, thank you very much, Darren.

4068
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:35,920
We love you, brother.

4069
02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:36,060
Brother?

4070
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:37,460
I said brother again.

4071
02:25:37,580 --> 02:25:38,240
There you go.

4072
02:25:38,400 --> 02:25:40,360
You're on this brother thing.

4073
02:25:40,400 --> 02:25:41,380
Well, you have to understand.

4074
02:25:41,660 --> 02:25:42,600
Better than dude.

4075
02:25:42,900 --> 02:25:45,320
Yeah, well, it's because...

4076
02:25:45,980 --> 02:25:48,280
I have a hard time remembering names.

4077
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,300
You know, on the show, we always have

4078
02:25:52,300 --> 02:25:53,240
nicknames for people.

4079
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:53,700
We can't...

4080
02:25:53,700 --> 02:25:55,920
Dana Purina.

4081
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:56,880
Purina.

4082
02:25:58,140 --> 02:26:01,500
We'll always remember Dana Purina because we can't

4083
02:26:01,500 --> 02:26:04,200
remember...

4084
02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:06,180
By the way, do you still use Prevagen?

4085
02:26:08,480 --> 02:26:08,880
Prevagen?

4086
02:26:10,280 --> 02:26:12,160
I've never used Prevagen.

4087
02:26:12,580 --> 02:26:14,540
I remember you telling me that you use

4088
02:26:14,540 --> 02:26:16,180
it for short-term memory.

4089
02:26:16,960 --> 02:26:18,160
No, no, B12.

4090
02:26:18,600 --> 02:26:19,380
Oh, just B12.

4091
02:26:19,500 --> 02:26:20,560
I got to tell my neighbor this.

4092
02:26:20,620 --> 02:26:21,720
I told him the wrong thing.

4093
02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:24,320
What is Prevagen for?

4094
02:26:24,540 --> 02:26:26,360
It's some sort of squid.

4095
02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:28,500
No, I thought you used Prevagen when you

4096
02:26:28,500 --> 02:26:30,420
were driving up to Washington in an EV.

4097
02:26:30,420 --> 02:26:31,180
No, no, no.

4098
02:26:31,180 --> 02:26:32,040
Oh, no, no.

4099
02:26:32,100 --> 02:26:35,180
You're thinking about the drug ProVigil.

4100
02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:37,120
ProVigil?

4101
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:39,020
Oh, man, I told him the wrong thing.

4102
02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:41,320
ProVigil, that's the stuff.

4103
02:26:41,440 --> 02:26:42,300
You want that.

4104
02:26:42,600 --> 02:26:43,340
Oh, I got to tell him.

4105
02:26:43,500 --> 02:26:44,020
Oh, man.

4106
02:26:44,620 --> 02:26:47,920
No, Prevagen is just a bullshit memory supposed

4107
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:48,340
memory.

4108
02:26:48,900 --> 02:26:49,300
ProVigil.

4109
02:26:49,420 --> 02:26:49,880
Oh, okay.

4110
02:26:50,820 --> 02:26:52,420
ProVigil keeps you awake sharp.

4111
02:26:52,500 --> 02:26:54,100
This is what the fighter pilots use.

4112
02:26:54,300 --> 02:26:54,960
Sharp as a tack.

4113
02:26:56,200 --> 02:26:57,820
This is what fighter pilots use if they

4114
02:26:57,820 --> 02:26:59,480
have a long mission so they don't get

4115
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:00,360
drowsy.

4116
02:27:01,900 --> 02:27:02,340
Okay.

4117
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:04,480
Prevagil.

4118
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:06,800
ProVigil.

4119
02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:09,740
It's like vigilant, pro, you're ProVigilant.

4120
02:27:10,260 --> 02:27:10,700
ProVigil.

4121
02:27:11,320 --> 02:27:12,100
Got it.

4122
02:27:13,420 --> 02:27:15,080
That's a prescription drug.

4123
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:16,280
He'll get it.

4124
02:27:17,020 --> 02:27:17,460
ProVigil.

4125
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:17,940
Thank you.

4126
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:18,640
Appreciate that.

4127
02:27:19,400 --> 02:27:23,420
Anyway, now to thank our executive I just

4128
02:27:23,420 --> 02:27:25,580
remembered I've forgotten to ask you the question.

4129
02:27:25,580 --> 02:27:26,640
I better ask it now.

4130
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:28,400
I need ProVigil.

4131
02:27:28,520 --> 02:27:29,260
What are you talking about?

4132
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:31,760
Here we go.

4133
02:27:31,860 --> 02:27:33,340
Executive associate, executive producers.

4134
02:27:33,460 --> 02:27:33,900
Here's the deal.

4135
02:27:33,980 --> 02:27:35,780
You support the show with $200 or above.

4136
02:27:35,860 --> 02:27:37,620
You become an associate executive producer.

4137
02:27:38,200 --> 02:27:40,620
That credit is good anywhere in the world

4138
02:27:40,620 --> 02:27:41,660
of show business.

4139
02:27:41,860 --> 02:27:44,080
Particularly IMDB is where people prove it.

4140
02:27:44,700 --> 02:27:45,540
And we'll read your note.

4141
02:27:45,660 --> 02:27:46,540
$300 or above.

4142
02:27:46,600 --> 02:27:47,940
You get an executive producer credit.

4143
02:27:47,960 --> 02:27:48,880
It's good for a lifetime.

4144
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:49,840
It never goes away.

4145
02:27:49,960 --> 02:27:51,000
And we will read your note.

4146
02:27:51,060 --> 02:27:54,220
And we kick it off with Commodore Archduke,

4147
02:27:54,260 --> 02:27:56,860
which now is the acronym CAD.

4148
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:00,420
Commodore Archduke from Winter Park, Florida.

4149
02:28:01,420 --> 02:28:03,240
Show number donation.

4150
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:05,080
Whoa.

4151
02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:07,680
We haven't had that in a long time.

4152
02:28:09,160 --> 02:28:09,500
1770.

4153
02:28:09,980 --> 02:28:11,160
Show number donation.

4154
02:28:11,360 --> 02:28:13,260
A.K.A. Blofeld donation.

4155
02:28:14,460 --> 02:28:17,340
From Commodore Archduke of Central Florida.

4156
02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:18,360
Great stuff, guys.

4157
02:28:18,720 --> 02:28:21,160
Thanks for clarifying the media for us.

4158
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:23,600
Five, six more years.

4159
02:28:24,220 --> 02:28:24,860
All right.

4160
02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:26,200
Thank you.

4161
02:28:26,480 --> 02:28:27,780
Oh, I was going to say the brother

4162
02:28:27,780 --> 02:28:28,060
thing.

4163
02:28:28,140 --> 02:28:28,800
I was going to explain it.

4164
02:28:29,540 --> 02:28:30,940
So I can't remember names.

4165
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:33,060
But the good thing is when you're saved,

4166
02:28:33,100 --> 02:28:35,300
when you become a Christian, you just call

4167
02:28:35,300 --> 02:28:36,080
everybody brother.

4168
02:28:36,720 --> 02:28:38,800
I walk into the church Sunday like, hey,

4169
02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:39,620
brother, how you doing, brother?

4170
02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:40,060
Hey, brother.

4171
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:42,480
Hulk Hogan does the same thing.

4172
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:45,780
He's also saved.

4173
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:47,640
He just got baptized, Hulk Hogan.

4174
02:28:47,880 --> 02:28:50,320
He just got baptized, but he's been saying

4175
02:28:50,320 --> 02:28:53,020
brother for at least 25 years.

4176
02:28:53,420 --> 02:28:55,060
Sure, but I'm not Hulk Hogan, and I'm

4177
02:28:55,060 --> 02:28:57,220
not a wrestler, and I don't have a

4178
02:28:57,220 --> 02:28:57,660
sex tape.

4179
02:28:58,120 --> 02:28:59,700
So, but I have an excuse.

4180
02:29:00,060 --> 02:29:00,520
There's a sex tape?

4181
02:29:00,740 --> 02:29:02,440
Oh, you don't remember that?

4182
02:29:02,900 --> 02:29:03,820
I never knew.

4183
02:29:05,080 --> 02:29:08,540
You know, I'm going to confess something.

4184
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:08,880
Okay.

4185
02:29:09,300 --> 02:29:11,220
I have never seen a sex tape.

4186
02:29:11,740 --> 02:29:12,740
One of these sex tapes.

4187
02:29:12,960 --> 02:29:15,140
You've never seen the Kim Kardashian Ray J

4188
02:29:15,140 --> 02:29:15,320
tape?

4189
02:29:15,400 --> 02:29:15,600
Nope.

4190
02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:16,420
Nope.

4191
02:29:16,420 --> 02:29:17,880
No, you're missing something.

4192
02:29:18,340 --> 02:29:19,760
What am I missing?

4193
02:29:19,980 --> 02:29:20,420
A lot.

4194
02:29:21,540 --> 02:29:22,100
Okay.

4195
02:29:24,680 --> 02:29:27,380
It puts her in a whole new light.

4196
02:29:28,060 --> 02:29:30,280
And then the Paris Hilton one is just

4197
02:29:30,280 --> 02:29:34,120
as good, because she's actually on her phone

4198
02:29:34,980 --> 02:29:36,840
while it's taking place.

4199
02:29:37,040 --> 02:29:37,260
Yeah.

4200
02:29:38,200 --> 02:29:39,340
I'm reliably informed.

4201
02:29:40,660 --> 02:29:42,200
She's a multitasker.

4202
02:29:42,240 --> 02:29:42,700
She is.

4203
02:29:42,920 --> 02:29:43,300
All right.

4204
02:29:43,420 --> 02:29:45,320
Thank you very much, Commodore Archduke.

4205
02:29:46,740 --> 02:29:48,580
Okay, Brian Luther's up next.

4206
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:49,240
He's in Gross.

4207
02:29:49,380 --> 02:29:49,480
Blake.

4208
02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:49,940
Blake Luther.

4209
02:29:51,080 --> 02:29:52,020
What did I say?

4210
02:29:52,140 --> 02:29:52,500
Brian.

4211
02:29:53,700 --> 02:29:54,660
Brian Luther.

4212
02:29:55,080 --> 02:29:55,580
Just call him Brother Luther.

4213
02:29:55,820 --> 02:29:57,240
Just call him Brother Luther.

4214
02:29:57,420 --> 02:29:57,980
It's all good.

4215
02:29:59,000 --> 02:29:59,860
Brother Luther.

4216
02:30:01,040 --> 02:30:01,660
And I can't even.

4217
02:30:01,980 --> 02:30:03,200
I'm all over the map.

4218
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:09,320
In Gross Point Shores, Michigan, which is a

4219
02:30:09,320 --> 02:30:11,060
horrible place, I guess, because it's gross.

4220
02:30:11,060 --> 02:30:13,040
A thousand bucks.

4221
02:30:13,180 --> 02:30:15,180
Another doctor.

4222
02:30:16,020 --> 02:30:16,660
PhD.

4223
02:30:17,920 --> 02:30:21,240
Please knight me, sir, horse meds.

4224
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:23,200
I bet she's a vet.

4225
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:23,980
Uh-huh.

4226
02:30:26,420 --> 02:30:27,740
Please de-douche me.

4227
02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:31,300
You've been de-douched.

4228
02:30:32,140 --> 02:30:35,440
Because he's been a horrible douchebag for way

4229
02:30:35,440 --> 02:30:36,660
too long, he says.

4230
02:30:36,820 --> 02:30:38,440
When he comes in with a thousand bucks,

4231
02:30:38,500 --> 02:30:39,700
he's no longer a douchebag.

4232
02:30:39,780 --> 02:30:40,340
That's for sure.

4233
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:42,800
And he says, sure, he says, big thank

4234
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:44,060
you for all the value.

4235
02:30:45,320 --> 02:30:45,660
You're right.

4236
02:30:45,860 --> 02:30:46,880
Thank you very much.

4237
02:30:47,020 --> 02:30:50,720
I like these really pricey donations and very

4238
02:30:50,720 --> 02:30:51,800
two-line notes.

4239
02:30:51,960 --> 02:30:52,960
That's how it always goes.

4240
02:30:53,100 --> 02:30:54,760
This is part of the model.

4241
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:56,440
We learned it a long time ago.

4242
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:57,540
Preston Isaacson.

4243
02:30:58,220 --> 02:31:00,440
Straight to our associate executive producers with a

4244
02:31:00,440 --> 02:31:01,140
row of ducks.

4245
02:31:01,520 --> 02:31:01,620
What?

4246
02:31:01,620 --> 02:31:03,740
We don't have any executive producers?

4247
02:31:04,060 --> 02:31:05,560
Except for these first two.

4248
02:31:06,220 --> 02:31:06,640
Wow.

4249
02:31:08,240 --> 02:31:10,720
2222.22. Yak Karma for sure.

4250
02:31:10,880 --> 02:31:13,040
Don't remember if there's relationship karma, but if

4251
02:31:13,040 --> 02:31:15,160
there is one of those, please give it

4252
02:31:15,160 --> 02:31:16,060
to me after Yak.

4253
02:31:16,600 --> 02:31:18,100
No need to read this on the air.

4254
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:19,520
Thanks, guys.

4255
02:31:19,640 --> 02:31:20,980
Well, we already did it, and I'll give

4256
02:31:20,980 --> 02:31:22,340
you the relationship too.

4257
02:31:22,460 --> 02:31:23,420
karma.

4258
02:31:26,360 --> 02:31:27,960
You've got karma.

4259
02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:28,600
There you go.

4260
02:31:28,680 --> 02:31:30,100
Yak and relationship karma.

4261
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:31,380
One after another.

4262
02:31:31,980 --> 02:31:33,320
I find it screwy.

4263
02:31:33,320 --> 02:31:36,020
And we're already the Eli the coffee guy.

4264
02:31:36,180 --> 02:31:37,340
He's in Bensonville, Illinois.

4265
02:31:37,700 --> 02:31:39,100
He came in with 206.

4266
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:40,300
05.

4267
02:31:40,400 --> 02:31:43,060
You'd appreciate him because you're laced with coffee

4268
02:31:43,060 --> 02:31:43,420
today.

4269
02:31:43,880 --> 02:31:48,060
If humanity used its technological might for advancement

4270
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:51,360
of civilization and society, he writes, we might

4271
02:31:51,360 --> 02:31:53,260
actually have landed on the moon.

4272
02:31:55,180 --> 02:31:57,360
We might have landed on the moon by

4273
02:31:57,360 --> 02:31:57,680
now.

4274
02:31:57,880 --> 02:31:58,080
Yeah.

4275
02:31:58,300 --> 02:31:58,640
No.

4276
02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:03,760
Instead, our use of technology is focused on

4277
02:32:03,760 --> 02:32:11,680
destruction, subjugation, or beard and circus.

4278
02:32:12,140 --> 02:32:12,300
What?

4279
02:32:12,420 --> 02:32:13,820
Or beard and circuses.

4280
02:32:14,120 --> 02:32:14,460
Okay.

4281
02:32:15,060 --> 02:32:17,480
I pray one day we'll find a better

4282
02:32:17,480 --> 02:32:17,780
way.

4283
02:32:18,020 --> 02:32:20,800
There is one fantastic use for technology I

4284
02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:21,480
can think of.

4285
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:25,520
Ordering fresh roasted coffee off the internet.

4286
02:32:26,980 --> 02:32:32,960
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for

4287
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:35,380
20% off your coffee today.

4288
02:32:35,480 --> 02:32:36,220
Stay caffeinated.

4289
02:32:36,380 --> 02:32:37,100
Eli the coffee guy.

4290
02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:40,820
So I opened up the bag of Ethiopian

4291
02:32:40,820 --> 02:32:41,980
black bag.

4292
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:44,820
He's got this one line of expensive ones.

4293
02:32:45,980 --> 02:32:47,840
And I believe this to be pea berries.

4294
02:32:48,900 --> 02:32:50,620
And I would like to have him correct

4295
02:32:50,620 --> 02:32:51,880
me if I'm wrong, but it looked like

4296
02:32:51,880 --> 02:32:52,860
pea berries to me.

4297
02:32:52,960 --> 02:32:55,120
I think that's correct, pea berries.

4298
02:32:55,780 --> 02:32:57,640
And I don't know why he doesn't promote

4299
02:32:57,640 --> 02:32:59,320
that because pea berries are a thing.

4300
02:33:00,740 --> 02:33:04,440
You skipped Matthew Martel, but I will go

4301
02:33:04,440 --> 02:33:08,540
back and thank him for his $210.60

4302
02:33:08,540 --> 02:33:12,960
donation, associate executive producership from Broomall, Pennsylvania.

4303
02:33:14,020 --> 02:33:16,140
And Matthew says, the hardware tip of the

4304
02:33:16,140 --> 02:33:18,700
day segment of my email newsletter is nailing

4305
02:33:18,700 --> 02:33:18,920
it.

4306
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:21,060
That is only true, of course, when it's

4307
02:33:21,060 --> 02:33:21,560
received.

4308
02:33:21,900 --> 02:33:27,240
Visit martelhardware.com and use coupon SPAMMAIL for

4309
02:33:27,240 --> 02:33:29,440
an additional 10% off your order.

4310
02:33:29,980 --> 02:33:32,320
That's martel, double L hardware.com.

4311
02:33:32,400 --> 02:33:33,100
Hot pockets.

4312
02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:34,500
Hot pockets.

4313
02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:36,120
Huh.

4314
02:33:37,700 --> 02:33:41,840
Travis West in Howell, Michigan.

4315
02:33:42,980 --> 02:33:43,350
Howell.

4316
02:33:43,880 --> 02:33:44,620
20202.

4317
02:33:44,780 --> 02:33:45,720
Thank you for your courage.

4318
02:33:46,700 --> 02:33:49,140
Biphobic Stephen Wright donation.

4319
02:33:51,300 --> 02:33:52,040
Biphobic.

4320
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:52,140
Biphobic.

4321
02:33:52,140 --> 02:33:52,900
I don't know what that means.

4322
02:33:52,900 --> 02:33:54,000
Forgot about that.

4323
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:55,800
I don't know what Stephen Wright's got to

4324
02:33:55,800 --> 02:33:56,420
do with it.

4325
02:33:56,820 --> 02:33:59,240
Shout out to all the boys in the

4326
02:33:59,240 --> 02:34:01,520
hot gay apocalypse.

4327
02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:04,480
Please de-douche me.

4328
02:34:06,300 --> 02:34:07,960
You've been de-douched.

4329
02:34:08,400 --> 02:34:11,100
No jingles, but I'll take as much house

4330
02:34:11,100 --> 02:34:14,900
-selling karma as this donation will allow.

4331
02:34:15,160 --> 02:34:16,260
God bless you all.

4332
02:34:16,340 --> 02:34:18,100
All right, well that calls for a goat,

4333
02:34:18,200 --> 02:34:18,660
I think.

4334
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:21,300
You've got karma.

4335
02:34:22,460 --> 02:34:25,860
And that brings us to our last associate

4336
02:34:25,860 --> 02:34:27,120
executive producer, $200.

4337
02:34:27,540 --> 02:34:29,380
It comes from Linda Lou Patkin who asked

4338
02:34:29,380 --> 02:34:32,200
for Jobs Karma and says for a resume

4339
02:34:32,200 --> 02:34:35,720
that showcases your unique value proposition, tells a

4340
02:34:35,720 --> 02:34:39,480
compelling career story, and highlights your standout accomplishments,

4341
02:34:40,120 --> 02:34:42,160
visit ImageMakersInc.com.

4342
02:34:42,220 --> 02:34:44,060
That's ImageMakersInc with a K.

4343
02:34:44,720 --> 02:34:46,860
I know, she listened to us, didn't she?

4344
02:34:46,860 --> 02:34:47,160
Yeah.

4345
02:34:48,220 --> 02:34:50,420
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs

4346
02:34:50,420 --> 02:34:53,140
and writer of resumes, she makes you shine.

4347
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:54,820
I screwed up the tagline.

4348
02:34:55,480 --> 02:34:57,140
Well, we'll never hear it in the edit.

4349
02:34:57,720 --> 02:34:59,340
She makes you shine.

4350
02:34:59,660 --> 02:35:02,980
Hey boys, thanks for the sage advertising.

4351
02:35:03,520 --> 02:35:06,800
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4352
02:35:07,020 --> 02:35:08,460
Let's vote for jobs.

4353
02:35:08,880 --> 02:35:10,520
You've got karma.

4354
02:35:10,940 --> 02:35:14,880
Now, Linda, John and I did discuss you

4355
02:35:14,880 --> 02:35:16,320
after the last show.

4356
02:35:16,860 --> 02:35:19,060
Sage advertising council.

4357
02:35:19,900 --> 02:35:20,680
I'm sorry?

4358
02:35:21,900 --> 02:35:22,840
That's what she wrote.

4359
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:24,700
It usually says sage advertising.

4360
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:31,840
No, she says, I'm reading the copy, she

4361
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:32,260
says something.

4362
02:35:32,740 --> 02:35:35,660
Oh, oh, because it didn't fit on the

4363
02:35:35,660 --> 02:35:36,120
spreadsheet.

4364
02:35:36,980 --> 02:35:39,780
Thanks for the sage advertising council, love you,

4365
02:35:39,880 --> 02:35:40,740
mean it, I'm sorry.

4366
02:35:41,340 --> 02:35:41,840
Stupid.

4367
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:44,880
I denounce Excel.

4368
02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:46,860
I'm getting off this.

4369
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:48,840
I'm using Excel on mine.

4370
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:50,960
Yeah, it's a crap shoot.

4371
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:52,840
I still think crap.

4372
02:35:53,400 --> 02:35:54,860
Yes, well, there's that.

4373
02:35:55,100 --> 02:35:56,200
Well, and you know what's popping up?

4374
02:35:56,260 --> 02:35:57,600
The little co-pilot thing.

4375
02:35:57,760 --> 02:35:58,820
I'm going to hit the co-pilot.

4376
02:35:58,940 --> 02:35:59,500
What is co-pilot?

4377
02:35:59,980 --> 02:36:01,720
Ask co-pilot, ask co-pilot.

4378
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:02,220
Clippy.

4379
02:36:02,300 --> 02:36:03,360
I'm going to ask co-pilot.

4380
02:36:03,780 --> 02:36:04,960
I'm going to ask co-pilot.

4381
02:36:05,540 --> 02:36:05,980
Okay.

4382
02:36:06,660 --> 02:36:07,180
Co-pilot.

4383
02:36:07,640 --> 02:36:08,340
Where do I ask?

4384
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:09,600
I don't want auto save.

4385
02:36:09,940 --> 02:36:11,080
I want to ask you a question.

4386
02:36:12,280 --> 02:36:14,020
It's a nightmare, don't do it.

4387
02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:15,760
I want to ask co-pilot a question.

4388
02:36:15,880 --> 02:36:17,420
How can I ask co-pilot a question?

4389
02:36:18,840 --> 02:36:20,440
Turn on auto save.

4390
02:36:20,560 --> 02:36:21,680
I don't want to do that.

4391
02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:22,980
I want to ask you a question.

4392
02:36:23,880 --> 02:36:24,360
Stupid.

4393
02:36:24,800 --> 02:36:26,100
Okay, co-pilot doesn't even.

4394
02:36:27,700 --> 02:36:30,000
I still think for a resume that gets

4395
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:31,540
results was a great line.

4396
02:36:31,660 --> 02:36:32,940
That's just my personal opinion.

4397
02:36:34,760 --> 02:36:36,020
It went viral.

4398
02:36:36,180 --> 02:36:37,200
People were using it.

4399
02:36:37,880 --> 02:36:39,740
And then, you know, to change it to

4400
02:36:39,740 --> 02:36:42,580
for a resume that showcases your unique value

4401
02:36:42,580 --> 02:36:43,280
proposition.

4402
02:36:44,220 --> 02:36:46,340
I'm going to agree with you on this.

4403
02:36:46,720 --> 02:36:49,160
I think it's snappier.

4404
02:36:51,120 --> 02:36:53,240
And she should go back to it.

4405
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:55,940
She's already gone back to the dot ink

4406
02:36:55,940 --> 02:36:58,460
with a K, which is a good one.

4407
02:36:58,760 --> 02:37:01,720
Which is clarification which is always a good

4408
02:37:01,720 --> 02:37:01,920
way.

4409
02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:03,620
You should always have clarification.

4410
02:37:04,160 --> 02:37:09,640
But a snappy little ditty is better than

4411
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:11,620
one that's lengthy.

4412
02:37:12,040 --> 02:37:14,020
As witnessed by the first hour of the

4413
02:37:14,020 --> 02:37:14,240
show.

4414
02:37:18,060 --> 02:37:19,100
He got it in.

4415
02:37:19,220 --> 02:37:20,700
I was waiting for it to come, but

4416
02:37:20,700 --> 02:37:21,360
there it is.

4417
02:37:21,960 --> 02:37:23,200
You got me nailed.

4418
02:37:23,320 --> 02:37:23,900
There it is.

4419
02:37:24,360 --> 02:37:26,540
Thank you to the executive and associate executive

4420
02:37:26,540 --> 02:37:28,180
producers for episode 1770.

4421
02:37:28,940 --> 02:37:30,680
We'll be thanking more people in just a

4422
02:37:30,680 --> 02:37:31,260
bit, actually.

4423
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:33,320
$50 and above.

4424
02:37:33,380 --> 02:37:34,460
We appreciate you so much.

4425
02:37:34,520 --> 02:37:35,380
We love doing this.

4426
02:37:35,480 --> 02:37:36,980
It's a public service we do.

4427
02:37:37,340 --> 02:37:38,940
And when you return the value, it just

4428
02:37:38,940 --> 02:37:40,880
makes it feel all that extra special.

4429
02:37:41,440 --> 02:37:42,840
If you want to support the show, go

4430
02:37:42,840 --> 02:37:44,420
to noagendadonations.com.

4431
02:37:44,500 --> 02:37:45,840
You can do any type of donation.

4432
02:37:45,960 --> 02:37:47,760
You don't have to stick to any regiment.

4433
02:37:47,920 --> 02:37:49,900
You can do any number, any amount.

4434
02:37:50,020 --> 02:37:51,580
You can even set up a sustaining donation,

4435
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:53,800
which is indeed any number, any frequency.

4436
02:37:54,180 --> 02:37:55,820
Go to noagendadonations.com.

4437
02:37:55,880 --> 02:37:59,580
Thank you for supporting the show, episode 1770.

4438
02:37:59,780 --> 02:38:00,960
Our formula is this.

4439
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:04,040
We go out, we hit people in the

4440
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:04,240
mouth.

4441
02:38:09,040 --> 02:38:09,720
Order!

4442
02:38:11,060 --> 02:38:11,740
Order!

4443
02:38:12,460 --> 02:38:13,700
Hot pockets!

4444
02:38:14,620 --> 02:38:16,520
Shut up, Steve!

4445
02:38:18,480 --> 02:38:19,560
Five minutes.

4446
02:38:20,320 --> 02:38:21,580
Five minute warning.

4447
02:38:22,380 --> 02:38:23,940
Well, it is Pride Month.

4448
02:38:25,980 --> 02:38:27,940
In case you wanted to talk about Pride

4449
02:38:27,940 --> 02:38:28,200
Month.

4450
02:38:29,580 --> 02:38:31,540
I don't have any Pride Month clips.

4451
02:38:31,760 --> 02:38:34,780
I do have one TikTok clip you ridiculed

4452
02:38:34,780 --> 02:38:37,400
me for having TikTok clips.

4453
02:38:37,460 --> 02:38:38,080
I only have one.

4454
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:40,880
Why don't you do your TikTok clip and

4455
02:38:40,880 --> 02:38:42,480
then I'll do my Pride Month clips.

4456
02:38:43,140 --> 02:38:45,260
There's a thing going around, and this TikTok

4457
02:38:45,260 --> 02:38:49,180
clip epitomizes it, called hoax etymologies.

4458
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:51,680
Hoax etymology?

4459
02:38:51,740 --> 02:38:53,640
Is that like deconstruction of hoaxes?

4460
02:38:54,460 --> 02:38:54,920
No, no.

4461
02:38:55,060 --> 02:38:55,900
Hoax etymology.

4462
02:38:56,020 --> 02:38:57,200
In other words, you come up with a

4463
02:38:57,200 --> 02:39:01,080
fake etymology of a word and it goes

4464
02:39:01,080 --> 02:39:01,580
viral.

4465
02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:05,300
And it's usually done, the whole hoax was

4466
02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:08,160
created by somebody else, and you're a sucker.

4467
02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:10,540
You buy into it, and then you go

4468
02:39:10,540 --> 02:39:11,940
out and you post about it.

4469
02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:14,740
And this particular one, which is the use

4470
02:39:14,740 --> 02:39:20,140
of the word picnic, is elucidated in Snopes

4471
02:39:20,920 --> 02:39:25,600
as a hoax, an etymological hoax.

4472
02:39:26,360 --> 02:39:28,400
And this woman, a black woman, another one

4473
02:39:28,400 --> 02:39:31,580
of the lecturers, like the lecturer white people,

4474
02:39:32,320 --> 02:39:37,980
will reveal what she will reveal this going

4475
02:39:37,980 --> 02:39:39,140
around, play it.

4476
02:39:39,480 --> 02:39:40,860
Here's a list of words to help you

4477
02:39:40,860 --> 02:39:42,160
decolonize your summer.

4478
02:39:42,460 --> 02:39:44,500
And like with anything, our...

4479
02:39:45,820 --> 02:39:47,420
I like this already.

4480
02:39:48,380 --> 02:39:50,040
This morning I woke up, you know what

4481
02:39:50,040 --> 02:39:52,080
my first thought was?

4482
02:39:52,700 --> 02:39:55,080
I need to decolonize my summer.

4483
02:39:55,380 --> 02:39:56,720
It just won't be the same.

4484
02:39:56,960 --> 02:39:58,400
Here's a list of words to help you

4485
02:39:58,400 --> 02:39:59,700
decolonize your summer.

4486
02:40:00,160 --> 02:40:03,880
And like with anything, our vocabulary evolves.

4487
02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:05,240
It isn't about being woke.

4488
02:40:05,420 --> 02:40:07,720
It's about elevating your vernacular to fit the

4489
02:40:07,720 --> 02:40:10,300
times and the paradigm that we're in.

4490
02:40:10,620 --> 02:40:11,260
So welcome.

4491
02:40:12,180 --> 02:40:13,780
First, stop saying picnic.

4492
02:40:14,600 --> 02:40:18,580
Picnic originated from pic- a-n word.

4493
02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:22,820
The word picnic originated in the 1700s, but

4494
02:40:22,820 --> 02:40:28,540
gained popularity once people enjoyed lynching black people

4495
02:40:28,540 --> 02:40:33,480
and spreading a nice charcuterie board along the

4496
02:40:33,480 --> 02:40:36,700
trees as people were being lynched.

4497
02:40:37,000 --> 02:40:39,880
Instead of using the word picnic, why don't

4498
02:40:39,880 --> 02:40:44,620
you use barbecue, outing, you can use outdoor

4499
02:40:44,620 --> 02:40:50,160
excursion, gathering, rendezvous, what have you.

4500
02:40:50,440 --> 02:40:51,220
Make it up.

4501
02:40:51,660 --> 02:40:53,720
Just know that every time you use that

4502
02:40:53,720 --> 02:40:58,900
word, you are perpetuating the history of lynching.

4503
02:40:59,640 --> 02:41:03,460
I think I recall Mo and I discussing

4504
02:41:03,460 --> 02:41:04,460
this at some point.

4505
02:41:04,540 --> 02:41:05,780
I don't think it's true.

4506
02:41:06,420 --> 02:41:07,360
No, it's not true.

4507
02:41:07,540 --> 02:41:10,280
The word came in in the 1600s, not

4508
02:41:10,280 --> 02:41:11,360
the 1700s.

4509
02:41:11,380 --> 02:41:13,220
It has nothing to do with lynching.

4510
02:41:13,580 --> 02:41:15,000
It was a French word.

4511
02:41:15,400 --> 02:41:17,100
It had nothing to do with the n

4512
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:18,540
-word or anything in between.

4513
02:41:18,680 --> 02:41:19,740
This is bogus.

4514
02:41:19,820 --> 02:41:23,260
This is a fake, etymological hoax.

4515
02:41:23,480 --> 02:41:25,900
And she bought into it and the rationale,

4516
02:41:26,340 --> 02:41:29,320
according to at least Snopes and others, is

4517
02:41:29,320 --> 02:41:32,040
that this is done to show how stupid

4518
02:41:32,040 --> 02:41:34,620
people are and anyone who follows up by

4519
02:41:34,620 --> 02:41:38,120
bringing this into the lexicon, it just proves

4520
02:41:38,120 --> 02:41:38,900
that they're an idiot.

4521
02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:43,600
And it's done specifically targeting people that are

4522
02:41:43,600 --> 02:41:46,640
susceptible to this sort of nonsense to show

4523
02:41:46,640 --> 02:41:47,880
that they're dumb and they're stupid.

4524
02:41:48,460 --> 02:41:49,480
That's interesting.

4525
02:41:51,570 --> 02:41:54,670
Just on this TikTok for a second, TikTok

4526
02:41:54,670 --> 02:41:58,610
has announced something which I think is amazing.

4527
02:41:59,110 --> 02:42:02,830
It shows they come from a very different

4528
02:42:02,830 --> 02:42:05,630
place than all of the big tech platforms.

4529
02:42:06,830 --> 02:42:09,670
And in fact, it may even encourage you

4530
02:42:09,670 --> 02:42:12,870
to load the TikTok app on your phone

4531
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:15,250
after you take it out of the drawer

4532
02:42:15,250 --> 02:42:16,030
and charge it.

4533
02:42:17,750 --> 02:42:21,190
The phone I have, I don't know what

4534
02:42:21,190 --> 02:42:23,350
technology they're using for the battery, but I

4535
02:42:23,350 --> 02:42:25,170
can leave that phone in the drawer for

4536
02:42:25,170 --> 02:42:28,010
months and it's still fully charged.

4537
02:42:28,250 --> 02:42:29,970
What apps do you have on it?

4538
02:42:30,850 --> 02:42:31,190
None.

4539
02:42:32,850 --> 02:42:37,070
That's the whole reason why these phones are

4540
02:42:37,070 --> 02:42:39,170
running out of juice is because of all

4541
02:42:39,170 --> 02:42:43,890
the spying and spurning and reporting and all

4542
02:42:43,890 --> 02:42:45,910
the stuff it's doing under the hood.

4543
02:42:46,910 --> 02:42:47,970
Listen to this.

4544
02:42:48,090 --> 02:42:50,130
Now to some big changes for social media

4545
02:42:50,130 --> 02:42:53,570
giant TikTok, it's launching new self-care tools

4546
02:42:53,570 --> 02:42:56,050
designed to give users more control over their

4547
02:42:56,050 --> 02:42:57,190
content experience.

4548
02:42:57,490 --> 02:42:59,870
The announcement was made exclusively on Good Morning

4549
02:42:59,870 --> 02:43:00,270
America.

4550
02:43:00,770 --> 02:43:03,190
The new features include Manage Topics, which is

4551
02:43:03,190 --> 02:43:05,170
a setting that allows users to adjust how

4552
02:43:05,170 --> 02:43:06,990
often they see content from more than 10

4553
02:43:06,990 --> 02:43:10,870
popular categories, including travel, nature, sports and creative

4554
02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:11,290
arts.

4555
02:43:11,790 --> 02:43:14,990
Also included is an enhanced keyword filtering tool,

4556
02:43:15,130 --> 02:43:16,790
now powered by AI.

4557
02:43:17,570 --> 02:43:19,950
Users can plug in up to 200 keywords

4558
02:43:19,950 --> 02:43:22,030
of content they would prefer to avoid.

4559
02:43:22,410 --> 02:43:25,450
TikTok also introduced an updated safety center guide

4560
02:43:25,450 --> 02:43:28,690
designed to help users better understand and customize

4561
02:43:28,690 --> 02:43:30,610
their For You feed.

4562
02:43:30,910 --> 02:43:32,410
Now of course you don't see the video

4563
02:43:32,410 --> 02:43:34,170
with this, but they show the screen of

4564
02:43:34,170 --> 02:43:36,810
it and there's six or seven sliders.

4565
02:43:37,130 --> 02:43:39,970
They're literally letting you control your own algo,

4566
02:43:40,190 --> 02:43:43,090
which is the one thing people actually want.

4567
02:43:43,570 --> 02:43:45,930
This is, remember this is the secret sauce

4568
02:43:45,930 --> 02:43:46,550
of TikTok.

4569
02:43:46,850 --> 02:43:48,370
They're just saying, oh here it is.

4570
02:43:48,710 --> 02:43:49,550
You control it.

4571
02:43:49,910 --> 02:43:54,010
You want more dumb people who talk about

4572
02:43:54,010 --> 02:43:54,870
dumb stuff?

4573
02:43:56,250 --> 02:43:57,010
Who are clearly...

4574
02:43:57,010 --> 02:43:57,950
See this is why I don't want it

4575
02:43:57,950 --> 02:43:59,630
on a phone and have the phone running

4576
02:43:59,630 --> 02:44:01,570
because I'd be watching this all day.

4577
02:44:02,090 --> 02:44:02,270
Exactly!

4578
02:44:03,510 --> 02:44:05,950
It is the smartest thing I've seen from

4579
02:44:05,950 --> 02:44:08,950
a social network for a long time.

4580
02:44:09,850 --> 02:44:12,210
I think it's genius and they're going to

4581
02:44:12,210 --> 02:44:15,650
just blow past everybody with this, mainly because

4582
02:44:15,650 --> 02:44:17,750
they are social shopping.

4583
02:44:17,890 --> 02:44:20,390
They're not based on strife and getting you

4584
02:44:20,390 --> 02:44:22,050
angry and keeping you engaged.

4585
02:44:22,510 --> 02:44:24,150
They give you what you want.

4586
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:28,110
So just give people what they want and

4587
02:44:28,110 --> 02:44:30,070
if they're done with it, there's a slide

4588
02:44:30,070 --> 02:44:32,530
less cooking videos, more cooking videos.

4589
02:44:32,870 --> 02:44:33,630
This is perfect.

4590
02:44:33,870 --> 02:44:36,530
The cooking videos are just unbelievable.

4591
02:44:36,810 --> 02:44:38,230
It all includes cheese.

4592
02:44:39,090 --> 02:44:39,430
Everything.

4593
02:44:40,630 --> 02:44:41,750
Yes, always.

4594
02:44:41,750 --> 02:44:43,750
Yes, a lot of cheese.

4595
02:44:44,050 --> 02:44:47,010
And they're always opening packages and dumping them.

4596
02:44:47,310 --> 02:44:48,430
There's another thing.

4597
02:44:48,510 --> 02:44:50,690
It's always in a can or some sort

4598
02:44:50,690 --> 02:44:54,050
of plastic wrap and it goes in.

4599
02:44:54,390 --> 02:44:56,130
If it comes in a bag or has

4600
02:44:56,130 --> 02:44:58,130
a barcode, it is to be avoided is

4601
02:44:58,130 --> 02:44:58,890
my motto.

4602
02:44:59,530 --> 02:45:02,650
Here's NPR's morning edition to remind us that

4603
02:45:02,650 --> 02:45:04,350
June is Pride Month.

4604
02:45:04,730 --> 02:45:07,290
World Pride is underway here in Washington, D

4605
02:45:07,290 --> 02:45:11,370
.C. The international festival celebrating all things LGBTQ

4606
02:45:11,370 --> 02:45:14,990
has taken place in Copenhagen, London and Sydney.

4607
02:45:15,730 --> 02:45:19,130
But as NPR's Elizabeth Blair reports, attendance and

4608
02:45:19,130 --> 02:45:21,030
sponsorships are down this year.

4609
02:45:21,550 --> 02:45:23,110
World Pride D.C. has been going on

4610
02:45:23,110 --> 02:45:23,950
since mid-May.

4611
02:45:24,330 --> 02:45:27,310
Ryan Boss, executive director of Capital Pride Alliance,

4612
02:45:27,610 --> 02:45:30,450
says they've organized some 300 events across the

4613
02:45:30,450 --> 02:45:30,670
city.

4614
02:45:31,070 --> 02:45:34,370
Dance parties, a film festival, family activities like

4615
02:45:34,370 --> 02:45:36,790
Drag Story Hour and events for millions.

4616
02:45:36,790 --> 02:45:39,290
That was the best line.

4617
02:45:39,750 --> 02:45:43,010
Family activities like Dance parties, a film festival,

4618
02:45:43,430 --> 02:45:45,750
family activities like Drag Story Hour.

4619
02:45:45,950 --> 02:45:48,910
Come on kids, let's go to Drag Story

4620
02:45:48,910 --> 02:45:49,250
Hour.

4621
02:45:49,490 --> 02:45:51,450
It's time for a Saturday outing.

4622
02:45:51,890 --> 02:45:52,650
Now where was this?

4623
02:45:52,650 --> 02:45:53,450
This is NPR?

4624
02:45:53,690 --> 02:45:54,730
NPR morning edition.

4625
02:45:55,370 --> 02:45:58,890
And this is, so they've normalized Drag Story

4626
02:45:58,890 --> 02:46:02,070
Hour as a family activity on NPR.

4627
02:46:03,150 --> 02:46:04,510
Family time.

4628
02:46:04,510 --> 02:46:08,530
Film festival, family activities like Drag Story Hour

4629
02:46:08,530 --> 02:46:10,750
and events for military personnel.

4630
02:46:11,310 --> 02:46:14,090
But Boss says the Trump administration's anti-drag

4631
02:46:14,090 --> 02:46:16,810
and trans policies and rhetoric have had a

4632
02:46:16,810 --> 02:46:17,530
chilling effect.

4633
02:46:17,770 --> 02:46:19,850
A lot of our service members are being

4634
02:46:19,850 --> 02:46:22,130
forced back in the closet because they're afraid

4635
02:46:22,130 --> 02:46:24,790
of being who they are at their work

4636
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:27,090
and that is just extremely disheartening.

4637
02:46:27,470 --> 02:46:29,810
People from around the world travel to World

4638
02:46:29,810 --> 02:46:32,790
Pride festivals but this year Boss says hotel

4639
02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:34,990
bookings are below what they were expecting.

4640
02:46:35,490 --> 02:46:37,230
Sponsorships are also down.

4641
02:46:37,770 --> 02:46:40,810
Past DC Pride sponsors including Booz Allen Hamilton

4642
02:46:40,810 --> 02:46:43,490
and Comcast didn't come back this year.

4643
02:46:43,910 --> 02:46:46,190
They did not return NPR's request for comment.

4644
02:46:46,390 --> 02:46:48,750
Ooh, the money's drying up.

4645
02:46:48,910 --> 02:46:51,030
Gee, that is a problem.

4646
02:46:51,250 --> 02:46:53,130
Companies I think overall are in a very

4647
02:46:53,130 --> 02:46:53,830
tough spot.

4648
02:46:54,190 --> 02:46:57,310
Luke Hartig is president of Gravity Research which

4649
02:46:57,310 --> 02:47:01,250
recently surveyed roughly 200 Fortune 1000 companies about

4650
02:47:01,250 --> 02:47:02,630
their Pride sponsorships.

4651
02:47:02,950 --> 02:47:04,390
He says more than a third of them

4652
02:47:04,390 --> 02:47:06,830
plan to decrease their Pride support this year.

4653
02:47:07,250 --> 02:47:08,990
Many of them do business with the federal

4654
02:47:08,990 --> 02:47:09,450
government.

4655
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:12,370
Federal contractors are in a particularly precarious place

4656
02:47:12,370 --> 02:47:15,130
when it comes to Pride because Pride is

4657
02:47:15,130 --> 02:47:18,450
so closely integrated into broader DEI efforts.

4658
02:47:19,070 --> 02:47:21,410
And when it comes to the administration's power

4659
02:47:21,410 --> 02:47:25,150
to regulate DEI in the private sector, their

4660
02:47:25,150 --> 02:47:26,610
powers are probably at their greatest when it

4661
02:47:26,610 --> 02:47:27,810
comes to federal contractors.

4662
02:47:28,470 --> 02:47:29,650
And I think for a lot of companies,

4663
02:47:30,010 --> 02:47:32,650
celebrating Pride just comes a little too close

4664
02:47:32,650 --> 02:47:34,130
to the danger zone.

4665
02:47:36,500 --> 02:47:37,920
It's like, really?

4666
02:47:38,260 --> 02:47:38,840
Get a clue.

4667
02:47:39,840 --> 02:47:41,300
This was always pandering.

4668
02:47:41,900 --> 02:47:44,020
No one cared about you in the corporate

4669
02:47:44,020 --> 02:47:44,400
world.

4670
02:47:44,520 --> 02:47:45,760
It was pandering.

4671
02:47:46,580 --> 02:47:48,000
It's a hard pill to swallow.

4672
02:47:48,400 --> 02:47:50,620
Pride festivals are by their nature political.

4673
02:47:51,020 --> 02:47:53,220
That community includes the more than 200-

4674
02:47:53,220 --> 02:47:53,620
What?

4675
02:47:54,420 --> 02:47:56,800
Pride festivals are by their nature political?

4676
02:47:57,560 --> 02:48:01,140
I thought it was just to celebrate yourself

4677
02:48:01,140 --> 02:48:03,920
and your- We're learning something new from

4678
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:04,540
NPR.

4679
02:48:04,980 --> 02:48:07,280
Pride festivals are- I'm sorry, the second

4680
02:48:07,280 --> 02:48:08,800
thing we've learned, the other one is that

4681
02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:12,320
dragged story hour is a family activity.

4682
02:48:13,560 --> 02:48:16,240
Pride festivals are by their nature political.

4683
02:48:16,700 --> 02:48:19,940
That community includes the more than 250 singers

4684
02:48:19,940 --> 02:48:21,900
in the Gay Men's Chorus of Washington.

4685
02:48:22,340 --> 02:48:24,540
The chorus was scheduled to perform at the

4686
02:48:24,540 --> 02:48:26,960
Kennedy Center with the National Symphony Orchestra in

4687
02:48:26,960 --> 02:48:30,020
May during World Pride, but shortly after President

4688
02:48:30,020 --> 02:48:32,420
Trump announced he would take over the institution,

4689
02:48:32,820 --> 02:48:34,580
the chorus was informed that the event would

4690
02:48:34,580 --> 02:48:35,500
not take place.

4691
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:38,500
The orchestra told NPR the concert was postponed

4692
02:48:38,500 --> 02:48:41,760
for financial and scheduling reasons, not because it

4693
02:48:41,760 --> 02:48:42,600
was a Pride event.

4694
02:48:43,240 --> 02:48:45,780
Thea Kano, artistic director of the chorus, says

4695
02:48:45,780 --> 02:48:46,720
it was disappointing.

4696
02:48:47,160 --> 02:48:48,940
You know, nobody wants to be canceled or

4697
02:48:48,940 --> 02:48:51,160
feel like they've been canceled, but that's why

4698
02:48:51,160 --> 02:48:53,380
right away I thought, well, we cannot be

4699
02:48:53,380 --> 02:48:53,840
silenced.

4700
02:48:54,020 --> 02:48:55,580
Music is our protest.

4701
02:48:56,080 --> 02:48:56,680
We are resilient.

4702
02:49:13,300 --> 02:49:16,840
The Gay Men's Chorus of Washington organized an

4703
02:49:16,840 --> 02:49:19,360
international choral festival for World Pride.

4704
02:49:19,920 --> 02:49:22,980
The organization says some choirs from abroad pulled

4705
02:49:22,980 --> 02:49:25,280
out because of the tension in Washington.

4706
02:49:25,960 --> 02:49:27,220
A big closing ceremony...

4707
02:49:27,220 --> 02:49:29,520
Is that the proverbial pulling out of the

4708
02:49:29,520 --> 02:49:30,500
church before singing?

4709
02:49:30,780 --> 02:49:31,880
I'm just trying to say...

4710
02:49:32,500 --> 02:49:33,460
Pulling out...

4711
02:49:34,280 --> 02:49:36,760
Pulled out because of the tension in Washington.

4712
02:49:37,420 --> 02:49:39,780
A big closing ceremony for World Pride D

4713
02:49:39,780 --> 02:49:41,280
.C. takes place this weekend.

4714
02:49:41,740 --> 02:49:44,680
There's a parade and concerts featuring Jennifer Lopez,

4715
02:49:45,020 --> 02:49:46,640
Cynthia Erivo, and Goat Cheese.

4716
02:49:47,280 --> 02:49:47,820
J.

4717
02:49:47,960 --> 02:49:48,660
Lo is performing.

4718
02:49:49,440 --> 02:49:50,140
And Goat Cheese?

4719
02:49:50,140 --> 02:49:50,980
Was that the last one?

4720
02:49:51,300 --> 02:49:51,900
Goat Cheese.

4721
02:49:52,640 --> 02:49:53,080
J.

4722
02:49:53,240 --> 02:49:53,780
Lo and Goat Cheese.

4723
02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:56,760
I don't want to say too much, but

4724
02:49:56,760 --> 02:49:59,660
I started this show with the most boring

4725
02:49:59,660 --> 02:50:00,080
topic.

4726
02:50:01,120 --> 02:50:04,420
You despised me for it because it wasn't...

4727
02:50:04,420 --> 02:50:08,940
You're exaggerating my critique.

4728
02:50:10,140 --> 02:50:11,860
It wasn't top of mind.

4729
02:50:12,020 --> 02:50:14,920
No one cared about it, but somehow...

4730
02:50:14,920 --> 02:50:15,300
I know.

4731
02:50:15,380 --> 02:50:17,360
You're looking at the four monitors right now,

4732
02:50:17,400 --> 02:50:19,260
and that's all they're talking about.

4733
02:50:19,600 --> 02:50:22,480
Am I right?

4734
02:50:22,620 --> 02:50:24,200
Yes, but this is what's so great about

4735
02:50:24,200 --> 02:50:24,420
it.

4736
02:50:24,760 --> 02:50:28,180
Because now the conversation has moved from Trump

4737
02:50:28,180 --> 02:50:30,900
is in the Epstein files to he would

4738
02:50:30,900 --> 02:50:34,580
have never been elected without me, his tariffs

4739
02:50:34,580 --> 02:50:37,000
will cause a recession, and we should impeach

4740
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:37,360
him.

4741
02:50:38,260 --> 02:50:39,480
And without our...

4742
02:50:39,480 --> 02:50:41,440
At the beginning of the show, which people

4743
02:50:41,440 --> 02:50:45,440
will hear, saying, this is a gambit, this

4744
02:50:45,440 --> 02:50:47,840
is a scam, this is all set up.

4745
02:50:48,580 --> 02:50:51,220
Now the no-agenda people will be calm.

4746
02:50:52,520 --> 02:50:53,400
Mission accomplished.

4747
02:50:58,020 --> 02:50:59,940
Well, I'm glad you like to pat yourself

4748
02:50:59,940 --> 02:51:00,540
on the back.

4749
02:51:02,100 --> 02:51:03,800
I'm not going to argue against it.

4750
02:51:03,880 --> 02:51:05,060
It's possible you're right.

4751
02:51:05,700 --> 02:51:06,140
What?

4752
02:51:06,640 --> 02:51:07,080
I'm what?

4753
02:51:07,740 --> 02:51:08,180
Yeah.

4754
02:51:10,340 --> 02:51:12,740
So I have a couple of short clips.

4755
02:51:12,980 --> 02:51:15,140
I want to play this one just so

4756
02:51:15,140 --> 02:51:16,540
I can get my little rant out of

4757
02:51:16,540 --> 02:51:16,720
the way.

4758
02:51:16,800 --> 02:51:18,360
This is the AI comment from...

4759
02:51:18,360 --> 02:51:22,140
This is Kilmeade on Fox News, making a

4760
02:51:22,140 --> 02:51:24,380
comment that I want to make some statement

4761
02:51:24,380 --> 02:51:24,800
about.

4762
02:51:25,500 --> 02:51:26,820
Okay, Kilmeade.

4763
02:51:27,100 --> 02:51:29,120
How do you juggle that with the emerging

4764
02:51:29,120 --> 02:51:34,080
AI that could really hurt blue-collar Americans

4765
02:51:34,080 --> 02:51:36,280
as they begin to take the jobs and

4766
02:51:36,280 --> 02:51:37,680
even some white-collar Americans?

4767
02:51:38,220 --> 02:51:41,640
Is this a really high-wire act for

4768
02:51:41,640 --> 02:51:43,200
Republicans to manage?

4769
02:51:43,740 --> 02:51:44,780
Alright, rant away.

4770
02:51:44,780 --> 02:51:48,580
AI is going to take away...

4771
02:51:48,580 --> 02:51:49,860
If it's going to take away jobs, it's

4772
02:51:49,860 --> 02:51:52,880
going to take away white-collar bureaucrat jobs.

4773
02:51:53,660 --> 02:52:00,720
Blue-collar plumbers and electricians and carpenters...

4774
02:52:00,720 --> 02:52:02,840
AI is not going to have any effect

4775
02:52:02,840 --> 02:52:04,500
whatsoever on the blue-collar.

4776
02:52:04,800 --> 02:52:06,700
And I mentioned this on the DHM Plug

4777
02:52:06,700 --> 02:52:07,060
show.

4778
02:52:07,400 --> 02:52:09,460
If any kids out there want to make

4779
02:52:09,460 --> 02:52:12,000
sure that they have a job forever, get

4780
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:13,180
into the trades.

4781
02:52:13,260 --> 02:52:15,120
If you want an education, sure, go get

4782
02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:18,860
your degree in social sciences or history or

4783
02:52:18,860 --> 02:52:19,180
whatever.

4784
02:52:19,800 --> 02:52:22,380
And you can say you're educated, but become

4785
02:52:22,380 --> 02:52:23,600
a welder.

4786
02:52:24,160 --> 02:52:26,600
AI is not going to replace welders.

4787
02:52:29,120 --> 02:52:31,000
No, that was a very short rant.

4788
02:52:31,600 --> 02:52:33,060
It wasn't much to it, but I'm just

4789
02:52:33,060 --> 02:52:35,180
saying, you know, you can't say that AI

4790
02:52:35,180 --> 02:52:37,280
is going to take away blue-collar jobs.

4791
02:52:37,460 --> 02:52:38,680
No, of course not.

4792
02:52:39,160 --> 02:52:40,580
I don't think it's going to take away

4793
02:52:40,580 --> 02:52:42,980
that many white-collar jobs either.

4794
02:52:43,100 --> 02:52:44,100
I think it's going to take away a

4795
02:52:44,100 --> 02:52:45,180
lot of white-collar jobs.

4796
02:52:45,340 --> 02:52:47,440
It's already taken away the jobs of...

4797
02:52:48,070 --> 02:52:49,940
Look at the spot art that we're using.

4798
02:52:50,540 --> 02:52:52,500
I mean, that's a white-collar job being

4799
02:52:52,500 --> 02:52:52,960
an artist.

4800
02:52:53,120 --> 02:52:56,700
Right, but that's more an advancement, like Photoshop

4801
02:52:56,700 --> 02:52:58,800
did that, and then people became really good

4802
02:52:58,800 --> 02:52:59,340
at Photoshop.

4803
02:53:00,040 --> 02:53:01,400
And now you have AI.

4804
02:53:02,020 --> 02:53:03,740
Photoshop took away a lot of art jobs.

4805
02:53:03,740 --> 02:53:06,060
I can't create what Darren O'Neill creates.

4806
02:53:06,620 --> 02:53:08,980
You have to have talent to operate these

4807
02:53:08,980 --> 02:53:09,520
tools.

4808
02:53:10,420 --> 02:53:11,020
Yes.

4809
02:53:11,220 --> 02:53:12,880
You got to have the talent.

4810
02:53:14,140 --> 02:53:16,940
What if it's a job that needs no

4811
02:53:16,940 --> 02:53:17,700
talent whatsoever?

4812
02:53:19,100 --> 02:53:19,900
Paper pusher.

4813
02:53:20,140 --> 02:53:20,760
Like podcaster?

4814
02:53:21,860 --> 02:53:25,320
You can say that as a joke, but

4815
02:53:25,320 --> 02:53:26,840
I'm not worried that AI...

4816
02:53:26,840 --> 02:53:28,940
We've heard AI trying to do podcasts.

4817
02:53:29,260 --> 02:53:30,860
All they do is a deep dive, and

4818
02:53:30,860 --> 02:53:31,800
they make mistakes.

4819
02:53:32,300 --> 02:53:34,660
Well, but AI can't do law because it

4820
02:53:34,660 --> 02:53:35,440
hallucinates.

4821
02:53:35,660 --> 02:53:38,040
It can't do marketing because it sucks.

4822
02:53:38,040 --> 02:53:39,920
It's too wordy.

4823
02:53:40,260 --> 02:53:41,160
It can't write.

4824
02:53:41,260 --> 02:53:42,380
It can't write novels.

4825
02:53:42,860 --> 02:53:43,420
The songs.

4826
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:45,480
Where's my number one hit on the Billboard

4827
02:53:45,480 --> 02:53:46,980
chart from an AI song?

4828
02:53:47,140 --> 02:53:47,400
No.

4829
02:53:47,820 --> 02:53:49,180
It can't do any of that.

4830
02:53:49,300 --> 02:53:50,120
No, it's not coming.

4831
02:53:50,240 --> 02:53:51,020
It's not going to happen.

4832
02:53:52,000 --> 02:53:54,240
You need a living person to gyrate on

4833
02:53:54,240 --> 02:53:54,680
stage.

4834
02:53:54,760 --> 02:53:55,600
It just doesn't happen.

4835
02:53:56,140 --> 02:54:02,020
Now, if you listen to CBS mornings, the

4836
02:54:02,020 --> 02:54:04,820
Wall Street Journal editor, I guess the tech

4837
02:54:04,820 --> 02:54:06,240
editor, oh, no.

4838
02:54:06,460 --> 02:54:07,540
Let me just tell you.

4839
02:54:07,720 --> 02:54:10,260
AI, it's going to take over the world,

4840
02:54:10,360 --> 02:54:10,580
baby!

4841
02:54:10,800 --> 02:54:12,960
My talk on the table is how AI

4842
02:54:12,960 --> 02:54:15,520
is learning to escape human control.

4843
02:54:16,160 --> 02:54:18,120
That's the very scary headline I saw in

4844
02:54:18,120 --> 02:54:18,840
the Wall Street Journal.

4845
02:54:19,520 --> 02:54:21,380
It's an essay written by a very worried

4846
02:54:21,380 --> 02:54:24,440
AI consultant named Judd Rosenblatt who cites two

4847
02:54:24,440 --> 02:54:26,760
recent studies to argue that AI is, in

4848
02:54:26,760 --> 02:54:30,000
fact, learning to escape human control.

4849
02:54:30,380 --> 02:54:32,000
First, this is crazy stuff.

4850
02:54:32,120 --> 02:54:35,740
Researchers gave OpenAI's O3 model, a simple script

4851
02:54:35,740 --> 02:54:37,720
that would shut off the model when triggered.

4852
02:54:38,540 --> 02:54:41,800
In 79 of 100 trials, the AI model

4853
02:54:41,800 --> 02:54:44,880
independently, just on its own, edited the script

4854
02:54:44,880 --> 02:54:47,080
so shutdown command would not work.

4855
02:54:47,240 --> 02:54:49,320
Nate, Nate, Nate, it gets worse.

4856
02:54:50,020 --> 02:54:52,540
Even when ordered allow yourself to shut down,

4857
02:54:53,020 --> 02:54:56,400
the AI still disobeyed 7% of the

4858
02:54:56,400 --> 02:54:56,760
time.

4859
02:54:56,880 --> 02:54:58,780
And it gets even more frightening than that.

4860
02:54:59,260 --> 02:55:00,820
Other researchers, listen to this.

4861
02:55:00,820 --> 02:55:06,600
Using Anthropic's AI model Claude Four Opus, told

4862
02:55:06,600 --> 02:55:08,740
the model it would be replaced by another

4863
02:55:08,740 --> 02:55:09,540
AI system.

4864
02:55:10,000 --> 02:55:13,220
It then fed fictitious emails into the system

4865
02:55:13,220 --> 02:55:15,200
suggesting one of the engineers was having an

4866
02:55:15,200 --> 02:55:15,420
affair.

4867
02:55:16,040 --> 02:55:16,460
Got it?

4868
02:55:16,900 --> 02:55:19,500
In 84% of the tests, the AI

4869
02:55:19,500 --> 02:55:23,340
model drew on the emails to blackmail the

4870
02:55:23,340 --> 02:55:26,220
engineer to not shut down the AI model.

4871
02:55:26,220 --> 02:55:26,580
What?

4872
02:55:26,920 --> 02:55:27,200
What?

4873
02:55:27,960 --> 02:55:28,400
What?

4874
02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:28,680
What?

4875
02:55:29,060 --> 02:55:29,160
What?

4876
02:55:29,300 --> 02:55:29,400
What?

4877
02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:31,240
I'm quoting now from Judd.

4878
02:55:31,320 --> 02:55:34,620
In other cases, the AI model attempted to

4879
02:55:34,620 --> 02:55:37,780
copy itself onto external servers, we're in Mission

4880
02:55:37,780 --> 02:55:41,900
Impossible land here, wrote self-replicating malware and

4881
02:55:41,900 --> 02:55:45,660
left messages for future versions of itself about

4882
02:55:45,660 --> 02:55:48,120
the need to evade human control.

4883
02:55:48,300 --> 02:55:48,780
The entity.

4884
02:55:49,140 --> 02:55:50,420
The entity is real.

4885
02:55:51,380 --> 02:55:53,740
And that's why so many people, and when

4886
02:55:53,740 --> 02:55:56,040
I say people, me, are worried about AI.

4887
02:55:56,420 --> 02:55:58,220
That is scary stuff.

4888
02:55:58,300 --> 02:55:58,980
I told you.

4889
02:56:00,260 --> 02:56:02,360
So what they forget or omit...

4890
02:56:02,360 --> 02:56:05,100
I'm actually glad you got this clip.

4891
02:56:05,400 --> 02:56:08,140
But they're omitting some key information.

4892
02:56:08,620 --> 02:56:10,440
They're omitting everything.

4893
02:56:10,620 --> 02:56:11,020
Go ahead.

4894
02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:13,820
This was a dinner table conversation with JC

4895
02:56:13,820 --> 02:56:16,800
who is deep into AI, and he says

4896
02:56:16,800 --> 02:56:19,080
this is all the equivalent of writing on

4897
02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:22,580
a piece of paper I'm alive, and then

4898
02:56:22,580 --> 02:56:25,080
giving it to a copy machine, and it

4899
02:56:25,080 --> 02:56:27,500
comes out, says I'm alive, and you assume

4900
02:56:27,500 --> 02:56:30,160
the copying machine is alive, because it said

4901
02:56:30,160 --> 02:56:30,580
so.

4902
02:56:31,260 --> 02:56:33,780
Well, even worse than that, this was a

4903
02:56:33,780 --> 02:56:35,260
test that they did.

4904
02:56:35,880 --> 02:56:41,300
They expressly exposed to the AI this so

4905
02:56:41,300 --> 02:56:44,500
-called email of an affair.

4906
02:56:44,680 --> 02:56:45,400
It wasn't true.

4907
02:56:45,520 --> 02:56:46,800
They put it all in there.

4908
02:56:48,240 --> 02:56:50,660
It was like a test that they did

4909
02:56:50,660 --> 02:56:53,720
just to psych everybody up, and CBS, of

4910
02:56:53,720 --> 02:56:56,520
course, falls for it, like a bunch of

4911
02:56:56,520 --> 02:56:56,760
nerds.

4912
02:56:57,640 --> 02:57:02,520
AI is like working with a toddler with

4913
02:57:02,520 --> 02:57:05,080
ADHD who has perfect syntax.

4914
02:57:05,480 --> 02:57:08,000
Doesn't mean the toddler can write a novel.

4915
02:57:08,320 --> 02:57:11,020
Doesn't mean the toddler can create an application.

4916
02:57:11,200 --> 02:57:12,260
It has perfect syntax.

4917
02:57:13,020 --> 02:57:15,360
But it's like saying, I have a kitty

4918
02:57:15,360 --> 02:57:16,820
litter box with a turd in it.

4919
02:57:16,840 --> 02:57:17,660
Take the turd out.

4920
02:57:17,860 --> 02:57:20,020
The kid will go, go off to the

4921
02:57:20,020 --> 02:57:22,160
beach, get some sand, throw it into a

4922
02:57:22,160 --> 02:57:24,000
new box, bring it back, put the turd

4923
02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:25,500
in the other box, and then it's done.

4924
02:57:25,900 --> 02:57:30,260
AI is inherently not intelligent.

4925
02:57:30,440 --> 02:57:31,320
It is stupid.

4926
02:57:31,800 --> 02:57:32,720
Perfect syntax.

4927
02:57:33,460 --> 02:57:34,400
It's really good at it.

4928
02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:36,280
You need talent.

4929
02:57:36,520 --> 02:57:40,360
You need almighty intelligence to use artificial intelligence.

4930
02:57:40,540 --> 02:57:41,200
That's just it.

4931
02:57:41,760 --> 02:57:42,960
Nothing to worry about.

4932
02:57:43,200 --> 02:57:45,460
I think it will actually create more jobs.

4933
02:57:46,120 --> 02:57:47,660
It's not going to take away jobs.

4934
02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:49,760
It will take away certain jobs where people

4935
02:57:49,760 --> 02:57:51,320
can learn how to do other things.

4936
02:57:51,680 --> 02:57:52,880
You had the perfect example.

4937
02:57:53,140 --> 02:57:53,700
Learn to code.

4938
02:57:55,420 --> 02:57:56,440
Learn to prompt.

4939
02:57:56,660 --> 02:57:57,480
That's what it is.

4940
02:58:00,480 --> 02:58:02,080
That's a bogus story.

4941
02:58:02,340 --> 02:58:03,180
Totally bogus.

4942
02:58:03,280 --> 02:58:03,940
It's a promotion.

4943
02:58:04,420 --> 02:58:05,620
Promotion for Anthropic.

4944
02:58:05,820 --> 02:58:06,520
That's all that it was.

4945
02:58:06,600 --> 02:58:07,060
They probably paid for it.

4946
02:58:07,060 --> 02:58:08,380
They did have a plug in there for

4947
02:58:08,380 --> 02:58:08,660
Anthropic.

4948
02:58:08,700 --> 02:58:10,340
They probably paid for it.

4949
02:58:11,280 --> 02:58:12,520
One or two more.

4950
02:58:12,620 --> 02:58:13,340
It's all up to you.

4951
02:58:13,580 --> 02:58:16,040
I can do Africa and China and Africa.

4952
02:58:16,160 --> 02:58:18,040
Do you want to scare people off from

4953
02:58:18,040 --> 02:58:19,480
the last few minutes of the show?

4954
02:58:19,660 --> 02:58:20,540
That would be a good point.

4955
02:58:20,760 --> 02:58:21,860
Forget that.

4956
02:58:22,520 --> 02:58:23,960
How about the doofus?

4957
02:58:24,840 --> 02:58:26,320
I'm not going to play that clip.

4958
02:58:26,620 --> 02:58:30,400
I will play the attacks on referendums.

4959
02:58:30,560 --> 02:58:31,980
This is a four parter.

4960
02:58:32,080 --> 02:58:33,580
It may be too long.

4961
02:58:34,720 --> 02:58:35,440
Up to you.

4962
02:58:37,040 --> 02:58:38,800
How much time we have left?

4963
02:58:39,320 --> 02:58:40,260
Really none.

4964
02:58:41,400 --> 02:58:41,800
All right.

4965
02:58:42,880 --> 02:58:45,960
Honestly, hold on a second.

4966
02:58:46,060 --> 02:58:46,780
Let me do it this way.

4967
02:58:48,140 --> 02:58:50,140
John, we're almost at the end of time.

4968
02:58:50,620 --> 02:58:52,240
Can you hurry it along and play one

4969
02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:52,620
more clip?

4970
02:58:55,140 --> 02:58:56,640
Let's just play this then.

4971
02:59:02,880 --> 02:59:05,600
Now you got me cornered because I'm looking

4972
02:59:05,600 --> 02:59:07,400
for a one-shot clip.

4973
02:59:07,520 --> 02:59:09,340
I could just play maniacal laugh.

4974
02:59:10,560 --> 02:59:13,000
I'll give you maniacal laugh as a bonus.

4975
02:59:18,100 --> 02:59:19,880
Okay, now you get to play one more

4976
02:59:19,880 --> 02:59:20,140
clip.

4977
02:59:20,900 --> 02:59:23,540
Let's just go with the Russia-Trump talks

4978
02:59:23,540 --> 02:59:25,460
update and then we'll be done.

4979
02:59:26,280 --> 02:59:28,960
President Trump today speaking by phone with Russian

4980
02:59:28,960 --> 02:59:30,160
President Vladimir Putin.

4981
02:59:30,600 --> 02:59:32,680
The call comes after a series of high

4982
02:59:32,680 --> 02:59:35,020
-profile attacks on Russia by Ukraine.

4983
02:59:35,620 --> 02:59:38,540
In today's international correspondent, Arianne Pasdar has the

4984
02:59:38,540 --> 02:59:38,900
details.

4985
02:59:40,120 --> 02:59:43,640
President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin had

4986
02:59:43,640 --> 02:59:45,780
another phone call on Wednesday afternoon.

4987
02:59:46,460 --> 02:59:49,120
Trump said, we discussed the attack on Russia's

4988
02:59:49,120 --> 02:59:51,960
docked airplanes by Ukraine and also various other

4989
02:59:51,960 --> 02:59:54,140
attacks that have been taking place by both

4990
02:59:54,140 --> 02:59:54,640
sides.

4991
02:59:55,200 --> 02:59:58,220
Kiev recently used drones to strike several Russian

4992
02:59:58,220 --> 02:59:59,000
air bases.

4993
02:59:59,680 --> 03:00:02,520
Ukraine says it destroyed many of Russia's nuclear

4994
03:00:02,520 --> 03:00:03,540
-capable bombers.

4995
03:00:04,300 --> 03:00:06,880
And Ukraine also posted this video saying it

4996
03:00:06,880 --> 03:00:09,540
attacked a bridge connecting Crimea to Russia.

4997
03:00:10,000 --> 03:00:11,840
The rail and road bridge is a key

4998
03:00:11,840 --> 03:00:14,300
supply route for Russian forces in Ukraine.

4999
03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:17,460
According to Trump, it was a good conversation

5000
03:00:17,460 --> 03:00:19,920
but not a conversation that will lead to

5001
03:00:19,920 --> 03:00:20,860
immediate peace.

5002
03:00:21,280 --> 03:00:24,200
President Putin did say, and very strongly, that

5003
03:00:24,200 --> 03:00:26,080
he will have to respond to the recent

5004
03:00:26,080 --> 03:00:27,600
attack on the airfields.

5005
03:00:28,240 --> 03:00:30,940
Special Envoy to Russia and Ukraine Keith Kellogg

5006
03:00:30,940 --> 03:00:33,580
tells Fox News that the attack could raise

5007
03:00:33,580 --> 03:00:34,920
the risk of escalation.

5008
03:00:35,660 --> 03:00:37,560
And I'm telling you the risk levels are

5009
03:00:37,560 --> 03:00:38,260
going way up.

5010
03:00:38,780 --> 03:00:42,040
I mean, what happened this weekend, people have

5011
03:00:42,040 --> 03:00:44,540
to understand in the national security space, when

5012
03:00:44,540 --> 03:00:48,420
you attack an opponent's part of their national

5013
03:00:48,420 --> 03:00:51,260
survival system, which is their triad, the nuclear

5014
03:00:51,260 --> 03:00:53,560
triad, that means your risk level goes up

5015
03:00:53,560 --> 03:00:54,620
because you don't know what the other side's

5016
03:00:54,620 --> 03:00:55,040
gonna do.

5017
03:00:57,080 --> 03:00:58,460
Was that an RT report?

5018
03:00:58,560 --> 03:00:59,600
That was kind of a cool voice.

5019
03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:00,140
I liked him.

5020
03:01:01,280 --> 03:01:06,960
That was NTD.

5021
03:01:07,160 --> 03:01:07,560
Oh, NTD.

5022
03:01:09,100 --> 03:01:12,160
My sources, sources familiar with the matter, tell

5023
03:01:12,160 --> 03:01:13,980
me that UK was behind this.

5024
03:01:15,860 --> 03:01:17,700
And it kind of fits with Keir Starmer

5025
03:01:17,700 --> 03:01:19,400
all of a sudden being Mr. War.

5026
03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:22,320
And it wouldn't surprise me.

5027
03:01:23,920 --> 03:01:26,880
Well, that's an interesting little tidbit that we

5028
03:01:26,880 --> 03:01:28,000
can end the show with.

5029
03:01:30,460 --> 03:01:31,340
No agenda.

5030
03:01:31,720 --> 03:01:33,680
Imagine all the people who could do that.

5031
03:01:33,880 --> 03:01:34,900
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

5032
03:01:36,660 --> 03:01:41,580
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.

5033
03:01:42,040 --> 03:01:43,760
Yes, but not before we have thanked our

5034
03:01:43,760 --> 03:01:45,080
donors $50 and above.

5035
03:01:45,220 --> 03:01:46,900
We have John's tip of the way, tip

5036
03:01:46,900 --> 03:01:47,580
of the way day.

5037
03:01:47,780 --> 03:01:48,660
The tip of the day.

5038
03:01:50,280 --> 03:01:52,000
We have PhDs.

5039
03:01:52,040 --> 03:01:52,880
We got some nights.

5040
03:01:53,000 --> 03:01:54,180
It's a good day here at the No

5041
03:01:54,180 --> 03:01:54,800
Agenda show.

5042
03:01:55,300 --> 03:01:55,620
John C.

5043
03:01:55,660 --> 03:01:56,300
Dvorak, go!

5044
03:01:56,300 --> 03:01:56,400
Go!

5045
03:01:58,880 --> 03:01:59,720
Clip one.

5046
03:01:59,920 --> 03:02:01,000
Clip one, go!

5047
03:02:01,920 --> 03:02:04,300
Barron Ladekin starts up, but I'm still upset

5048
03:02:04,300 --> 03:02:06,060
by the fact we had no executive producers

5049
03:02:06,060 --> 03:02:07,060
under $1,000.

5050
03:02:07,900 --> 03:02:08,880
Yeah, it happens.

5051
03:02:08,980 --> 03:02:09,620
It's very strange.

5052
03:02:09,780 --> 03:02:10,100
It could have been.

5053
03:02:10,180 --> 03:02:12,240
If it wasn't for the PhDs, we would

5054
03:02:12,240 --> 03:02:12,860
have had none.

5055
03:02:13,460 --> 03:02:13,780
That's right.

5056
03:02:13,780 --> 03:02:16,060
Barron Ladekin in Houston, Texas starts us off.

5057
03:02:16,120 --> 03:02:17,560
He actually came in very late for the

5058
03:02:17,560 --> 03:02:19,440
last show, but here he is, $100.

5059
03:02:20,080 --> 03:02:21,240
John Robinet, $100.

5060
03:02:22,880 --> 03:02:23,760
Ketan, Kellen.

5061
03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:24,300
Is it Kellen?

5062
03:02:24,500 --> 03:02:24,700
Kellen.

5063
03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:27,620
Prince in Hollywood, Florida.

5064
03:02:28,540 --> 03:02:28,980
$100.

5065
03:02:29,940 --> 03:02:30,880
Sir F.

5066
03:02:31,060 --> 03:02:31,300
A.

5067
03:02:31,400 --> 03:02:38,860
Ann Beck in Schiffwoods, Schiffwood Forest, U.S.

5068
03:02:38,920 --> 03:02:39,320
somewhere.

5069
03:02:40,120 --> 03:02:40,880
I don't know where that is.

5070
03:02:40,880 --> 03:02:41,160
$100.

5071
03:02:42,060 --> 03:02:44,660
Sir Loin, Sir Loin, get it?

5072
03:02:45,180 --> 03:02:48,720
In Winter Haven, Florida, $84.38. And that's

5073
03:02:48,720 --> 03:02:53,540
a stuffed bra boob donation, which means it's

5074
03:02:53,540 --> 03:02:55,880
an $8.008 with the fees included.

5075
03:02:56,700 --> 03:02:57,780
That's a good one.

5076
03:02:58,040 --> 03:02:58,960
I like that.

5077
03:02:59,640 --> 03:03:00,540
That is funny.

5078
03:03:01,140 --> 03:03:03,280
Kevin McLaughlin, though, he's got the real deal.

5079
03:03:03,520 --> 03:03:06,520
$8.008. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover

5080
03:03:06,520 --> 03:03:07,800
of America and boobs.

5081
03:03:08,880 --> 03:03:12,360
Harry Kelly, was it Tate?

5082
03:03:12,560 --> 03:03:13,200
Tate.

5083
03:03:14,380 --> 03:03:17,660
In Kuvota, Finland.

5084
03:03:18,200 --> 03:03:18,740
Kuvola.

5085
03:03:19,480 --> 03:03:20,040
Kuvola.

5086
03:03:20,900 --> 03:03:23,220
I can't tell the T's from the L's

5087
03:03:23,220 --> 03:03:23,580
on here.

5088
03:03:24,340 --> 03:03:26,000
Same thing with the font.

5089
03:03:26,780 --> 03:03:28,080
This is the 75th.

5090
03:03:28,240 --> 03:03:30,860
Yokozuna is Onosato donation.

5091
03:03:31,060 --> 03:03:34,500
Yes, Onosato is now the 75th Yokozuna.

5092
03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:40,980
And probably the best sumo wrestler I've ever

5093
03:03:40,980 --> 03:03:41,480
seen.

5094
03:03:41,960 --> 03:03:45,000
And I actually met Aki Bono, for anybody

5095
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:46,300
out there looking for trivia.

5096
03:03:46,300 --> 03:03:48,780
Who is really good.

5097
03:03:49,200 --> 03:03:50,460
He's dead now, unfortunately.

5098
03:03:51,060 --> 03:03:54,160
Lydia Terry in Rochester, New Hampshire, 7903.

5099
03:03:54,680 --> 03:03:56,700
7903 from Harry, too.

5100
03:03:57,600 --> 03:04:01,440
So 7903, it would be the She wants

5101
03:04:01,440 --> 03:04:06,560
us to give at truckdriveratpoa.st and fcancerkarma

5102
03:04:06,560 --> 03:04:07,280
and prayers.

5103
03:04:07,340 --> 03:04:09,720
Prayers done, and I will give you the

5104
03:04:09,720 --> 03:04:10,620
fcancer at the end.

5105
03:04:11,980 --> 03:04:15,060
Ashley Larson in Ham Lake, Minnesota.

5106
03:04:15,720 --> 03:04:17,620
It's one of the 10,000 lakes.

5107
03:04:19,320 --> 03:04:21,980
6777 is a switcheroo birthday gift from my

5108
03:04:21,980 --> 03:04:24,440
brother, Chad Larson, June 7th.

5109
03:04:24,480 --> 03:04:26,520
Happy 48th, bro.

5110
03:04:27,480 --> 03:04:28,520
Love the show.

5111
03:04:29,460 --> 03:04:32,240
Scott Nuzzo in Dubois.

5112
03:04:35,020 --> 03:04:37,760
Sorry, I'm using this crazy name for a

5113
03:04:37,760 --> 03:04:38,500
Wyoming town.

5114
03:04:38,520 --> 03:04:40,640
I live in Dubois, Wyoming.

5115
03:04:41,120 --> 03:04:42,940
I'm sure it's pronounced Dubois.

5116
03:04:45,340 --> 03:04:45,980
6689.

5117
03:04:47,360 --> 03:04:48,580
Another birthday call out.

5118
03:04:49,080 --> 03:04:49,680
It's coming up.

5119
03:04:49,840 --> 03:04:51,700
Joe Rizzi in Trego.

5120
03:04:51,820 --> 03:04:53,920
Trego, Trego, Trego, Montana.

5121
03:04:54,500 --> 03:04:55,940
Another birthday call out.

5122
03:04:56,120 --> 03:04:57,980
He came in with 66 for the birthday

5123
03:04:57,980 --> 03:04:58,980
on 6-6.

5124
03:04:59,540 --> 03:05:02,160
Tom Ross Sylmar, California, 65.

5125
03:05:02,940 --> 03:05:06,900
James Moore in San Pablo, 6447.

5126
03:05:08,540 --> 03:05:10,360
He says, I will read some of this

5127
03:05:10,360 --> 03:05:10,580
note.

5128
03:05:10,980 --> 03:05:13,480
I heard you're complaining, so here's your blood

5129
03:05:13,480 --> 03:05:13,860
money.

5130
03:05:15,140 --> 03:05:17,040
Now shut the hell up.

5131
03:05:17,740 --> 03:05:18,660
Love the show.

5132
03:05:18,800 --> 03:05:19,560
Thanks for all you do.

5133
03:05:19,720 --> 03:05:21,860
I don't want your blood money.

5134
03:05:23,300 --> 03:05:24,260
Andrew Foreman.

5135
03:05:26,800 --> 03:05:27,900
Thanks for all you do.

5136
03:05:28,700 --> 03:05:29,960
He's the one that said, thanks for all

5137
03:05:29,960 --> 03:05:30,480
you do.

5138
03:05:30,480 --> 03:05:32,220
The blood money guy said nothing like that.

5139
03:05:33,060 --> 03:05:35,700
He's in Baca Raton for 6331.

5140
03:05:36,100 --> 03:05:38,140
Gene Moley.

5141
03:05:38,140 --> 03:05:39,580
It is Jobs Carmel.

5142
03:05:39,740 --> 03:05:40,200
Do that again.

5143
03:05:40,220 --> 03:05:41,660
Or Gina, Gina, Gina Moley.

5144
03:05:41,940 --> 03:05:43,140
Gina Moley.

5145
03:05:43,800 --> 03:05:47,200
Moley, Moley in Phoenix, Arizona, 6325.

5146
03:05:49,140 --> 03:05:55,660
Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, Brillo, California, 6161.

5147
03:05:55,760 --> 03:06:00,880
And that's the Auntie Gigi donation.

5148
03:06:01,420 --> 03:06:02,740
And here it comes.

5149
03:06:04,720 --> 03:06:06,720
I'll just have an apple in my room.

5150
03:06:07,680 --> 03:06:09,920
Brian Furley, 5510.

5151
03:06:10,120 --> 03:06:12,380
Anonymous, Portland, Oregon, 55.

5152
03:06:15,250 --> 03:06:18,110
He wants us to mention Nick and Terry

5153
03:06:18,110 --> 03:06:21,490
who are expecting a new human resources any

5154
03:06:21,490 --> 03:06:21,930
day.

5155
03:06:22,250 --> 03:06:23,050
In the morning.

5156
03:06:23,830 --> 03:06:26,450
Sean Pendergast in Vista, California, 55.

5157
03:06:27,090 --> 03:06:31,250
Preston Isaacson in Baca Raton, another Baca person,

5158
03:06:31,370 --> 03:06:32,330
5333.

5159
03:06:32,410 --> 03:06:34,230
Michael Gates, 5280.

5160
03:06:34,970 --> 03:06:37,770
Robin Winkle with a long note for some

5161
03:06:37,770 --> 03:06:42,010
reason in Enschede.

5162
03:06:42,390 --> 03:06:43,030
Enschede.

5163
03:06:43,230 --> 03:06:43,750
Pretty close.

5164
03:06:44,050 --> 03:06:45,370
Enschede in Holland.

5165
03:06:46,910 --> 03:06:48,590
And you can read her note.

5166
03:06:48,870 --> 03:06:51,650
First time donor, please deduce me.

5167
03:06:53,210 --> 03:06:54,930
You've been deduced.

5168
03:06:55,250 --> 03:06:59,150
Came to us through the Robert Jensen podcast.

5169
03:06:59,370 --> 03:07:00,250
Jensen donation.

5170
03:07:03,860 --> 03:07:05,380
John Bosano.

5171
03:07:05,540 --> 03:07:06,100
Hey, there he is.

5172
03:07:06,180 --> 03:07:07,340
I haven't seen him for a while in

5173
03:07:07,340 --> 03:07:08,360
Madison, Alabama.

5174
03:07:08,840 --> 03:07:09,340
5272.

5175
03:07:09,420 --> 03:07:11,060
These are $50 donors, actually.

5176
03:07:11,840 --> 03:07:14,180
Alex Salash.

5177
03:07:16,020 --> 03:07:17,000
What do you think?

5178
03:07:18,060 --> 03:07:18,560
Salashour.

5179
03:07:20,400 --> 03:07:20,900
Salashour.

5180
03:07:23,000 --> 03:07:23,500
Maybe.

5181
03:07:24,620 --> 03:07:25,120
McDermott.

5182
03:07:25,120 --> 03:07:26,440
He came at 5272.

5183
03:07:26,520 --> 03:07:30,220
There's also McDermott Connor in Estero, Florida.

5184
03:07:31,460 --> 03:07:31,960
5272.

5185
03:07:32,080 --> 03:07:35,220
Roger Kesey in Holland, Michigan.

5186
03:07:36,280 --> 03:07:40,240
Douglas Johnson, 5272 in Lithia, Florida.

5187
03:07:40,740 --> 03:07:42,320
Then we get to the 50s, just the

5188
03:07:42,320 --> 03:07:43,320
plain old 50s.

5189
03:07:43,860 --> 03:07:46,980
Name and location starting with Matt Frazee in

5190
03:07:46,980 --> 03:07:48,340
St. John's, Florida.

5191
03:07:48,780 --> 03:07:49,440
A lot of Floridians.

5192
03:07:49,680 --> 03:07:50,880
Yeah, they're on fire.

5193
03:07:51,780 --> 03:07:53,360
Foster Birch in New York.

5194
03:07:53,960 --> 03:07:55,980
Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan.

5195
03:07:56,420 --> 03:07:58,920
James Sharametta in Nappanock, New York.

5196
03:07:59,160 --> 03:08:01,960
Rebecca Ho or Hogg or one of the

5197
03:08:01,960 --> 03:08:03,220
two in Memphis, Tennessee.

5198
03:08:03,900 --> 03:08:07,680
Chris Conaker in Anchorage, Alaska.

5199
03:08:07,860 --> 03:08:09,920
Alex Zavala in Kiley, Texas.

5200
03:08:11,600 --> 03:08:13,660
Narzis Nadenov.

5201
03:08:13,660 --> 03:08:15,300
Kyle, Texas.

5202
03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:18,060
Kyle, Texas.

5203
03:08:18,520 --> 03:08:19,100
Not Kylie?

5204
03:08:19,340 --> 03:08:19,700
No.

5205
03:08:22,200 --> 03:08:24,960
Narzis Nadenov.

5206
03:08:25,420 --> 03:08:27,220
In Clifton, New Jersey.

5207
03:08:28,040 --> 03:08:30,720
Leslie Walker in Roseburg, Oregon.

5208
03:08:30,980 --> 03:08:33,160
And last on our list here is Brett

5209
03:08:33,160 --> 03:08:36,640
Lemons in Mitchell, Indiana.

5210
03:08:37,160 --> 03:08:38,480
I want to thank these people for making

5211
03:08:38,480 --> 03:08:41,220
show 1771 show 1771.

5212
03:08:41,540 --> 03:08:43,500
Yes, and we have a Jobs Karma and

5213
03:08:43,500 --> 03:08:44,580
an F Cancer Karma.

5214
03:08:45,000 --> 03:08:48,080
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

5215
03:08:48,180 --> 03:08:49,440
Let's vote for jobs.

5216
03:08:50,120 --> 03:08:51,600
Youth Thought Karma.

5217
03:08:56,160 --> 03:08:57,260
Youth Thought.

5218
03:08:58,620 --> 03:08:59,220
Karma.

5219
03:09:00,580 --> 03:09:02,040
And we have breaking news.

5220
03:09:02,420 --> 03:09:03,960
Breaking news from the quads.

5221
03:09:04,300 --> 03:09:07,560
President Vladimir Putin of Russia has said he

5222
03:09:07,560 --> 03:09:10,360
is willing to negotiate a peace treaty between

5223
03:09:10,360 --> 03:09:12,360
President Trump and Elon Musk.

5224
03:09:16,040 --> 03:09:17,940
It's the joke of the day apparently.

5225
03:09:18,620 --> 03:09:20,200
Thank you very much to these donors.

5226
03:09:20,320 --> 03:09:21,020
$50 and above.

5227
03:09:21,100 --> 03:09:22,540
And again thank you so much for the

5228
03:09:22,540 --> 03:09:25,360
value received from our executive and associate executive

5229
03:09:25,360 --> 03:09:25,740
producers.

5230
03:09:25,920 --> 03:09:28,520
We do have some PhDs who have helped

5231
03:09:28,520 --> 03:09:29,720
us out tremendously today.

5232
03:09:29,860 --> 03:09:31,040
We appreciate that so much.

5233
03:09:31,120 --> 03:09:33,560
You can always support the show with time,

5234
03:09:33,700 --> 03:09:34,720
with talent, with treasure.

5235
03:09:34,880 --> 03:09:38,680
Go to noagendadonations.com and set up a

5236
03:09:38,680 --> 03:09:40,720
recurring donation any amount, any frequency.

5237
03:09:40,880 --> 03:09:42,040
Just anything you want to give us.

5238
03:09:42,100 --> 03:09:44,220
Whatever the value is that you received, turn

5239
03:09:44,220 --> 03:09:45,540
that in your head in the numbers and

5240
03:09:45,540 --> 03:09:47,460
send it back and give without grumbling.

5241
03:09:47,600 --> 03:09:48,280
Thank you very much.

5242
03:09:49,480 --> 03:09:55,240
It's your birthday, birthday of Noah And first

5243
03:09:55,240 --> 03:09:57,320
off we have to thank our flight attendant

5244
03:09:57,320 --> 03:10:00,520
extraordinaire Dame Christina Pearl for being a supporter

5245
03:10:00,520 --> 03:10:02,360
of the No Agenda Show and she celebrated

5246
03:10:02,360 --> 03:10:04,020
her birthday on June 4th.

5247
03:10:04,280 --> 03:10:05,340
Love and kisses from us.

5248
03:10:05,440 --> 03:10:07,800
Scott Nuzio wishes his brother Craig a very

5249
03:10:07,800 --> 03:10:08,260
happy one.

5250
03:10:08,340 --> 03:10:10,040
He celebrates on the 6th.

5251
03:10:10,060 --> 03:10:13,020
Joe Rizzi also celebrating tomorrow and finally Ashley

5252
03:10:13,020 --> 03:10:13,380
Larson.

5253
03:10:13,760 --> 03:10:16,200
Happy birthday to her brother Chad Larson.

5254
03:10:16,600 --> 03:10:18,580
He turns 48 on June 7th.

5255
03:10:18,600 --> 03:10:20,320
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best

5256
03:10:20,320 --> 03:10:21,700
podcast in the universe.

5257
03:10:21,700 --> 03:10:23,100
It's your birthday.

5258
03:10:23,460 --> 03:10:26,980
We congratulate our brand new PhDs Commodore Archduke,

5259
03:10:27,100 --> 03:10:29,020
known as CAD and Blake Luther.

5260
03:10:29,460 --> 03:10:30,960
Both of you can go and pick up

5261
03:10:30,960 --> 03:10:31,940
your PhDs.

5262
03:10:31,980 --> 03:10:34,420
The commencement ceremony is taking place as we

5263
03:10:34,420 --> 03:10:37,220
speak at noagenderings.com Let us know exactly

5264
03:10:37,220 --> 03:10:38,320
what name you want to put on it.

5265
03:10:38,360 --> 03:10:42,800
It's a very, very handsome PhD diploma and

5266
03:10:42,800 --> 03:10:44,320
anyone can take a look at those at

5267
03:10:44,320 --> 03:10:47,160
noagenderings.com And we have some actual rings

5268
03:10:47,160 --> 03:10:47,720
to hand out.

5269
03:10:47,800 --> 03:10:49,000
We've got some knights ready to go.

5270
03:10:49,020 --> 03:10:49,300
Oh wait a minute.

5271
03:10:49,300 --> 03:10:50,780
First I need to read this note.

5272
03:10:51,680 --> 03:10:54,160
A layaway knight Jeffrey Morrill he's been a

5273
03:10:54,160 --> 03:10:56,100
sustaining donor since 2018.

5274
03:10:56,500 --> 03:10:57,600
Why, he says?

5275
03:10:57,980 --> 03:11:01,260
Because real sustainability is only the best podcast

5276
03:11:01,260 --> 03:11:01,780
in the universe.

5277
03:11:02,220 --> 03:11:03,840
To all the slaves I say make sure

5278
03:11:03,840 --> 03:11:05,980
you're eating government mac and cheese and donate

5279
03:11:05,980 --> 03:11:07,660
early and often it works.

5280
03:11:08,300 --> 03:11:11,360
Now he has a very long note here

5281
03:11:11,360 --> 03:11:14,240
but I will skip through a few pieces

5282
03:11:14,240 --> 03:11:15,920
and he says Adam, John may God bless

5283
03:11:15,920 --> 03:11:17,560
you with the best exit strategy in the

5284
03:11:17,560 --> 03:11:19,500
universe by letting Jesus be your shelter.

5285
03:11:19,840 --> 03:11:21,700
My church has seen a massive increase more

5286
03:11:21,700 --> 03:11:23,900
than pre-COVID numbers and one protester.

5287
03:11:24,040 --> 03:11:24,520
Praise God.

5288
03:11:24,600 --> 03:11:25,140
We are winning.

5289
03:11:25,500 --> 03:11:27,680
Nothing compared to the beat drop in church.

5290
03:11:28,040 --> 03:11:30,960
John, I have one I have, I for

5291
03:11:30,960 --> 03:11:33,240
one have been receiving all newsletters so I'm

5292
03:11:33,240 --> 03:11:35,200
not sure why of all the failures.

5293
03:11:36,180 --> 03:11:36,500
Hmm.

5294
03:11:37,920 --> 03:11:38,480
What do you think?

5295
03:11:38,860 --> 03:11:40,040
Have we had failures?

5296
03:11:40,980 --> 03:11:42,780
Well you didn't even get the last newsletter.

5297
03:11:42,960 --> 03:11:44,360
You told me so yourself and you have

5298
03:11:44,360 --> 03:11:45,360
two email addresses.

5299
03:11:45,360 --> 03:11:46,660
But Tina did get it.

5300
03:11:47,100 --> 03:11:48,100
That's the crazy thing.

5301
03:11:48,220 --> 03:11:49,140
But you didn't get it.

5302
03:11:49,240 --> 03:11:51,460
I didn't get it and I've never at

5303
03:11:51,460 --> 03:11:52,880
least one of my two.

5304
03:11:53,260 --> 03:11:57,540
At least one of my two email addresses

5305
03:11:57,540 --> 03:11:58,660
always gets it.

5306
03:11:59,300 --> 03:11:59,820
Let me just see.

5307
03:11:59,900 --> 03:12:02,000
Does he have he wants an apple in

5308
03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:02,420
his room?

5309
03:12:03,200 --> 03:12:03,720
Okay.

5310
03:12:03,980 --> 03:12:04,720
There you go.

5311
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:05,980
This is exactly right.

5312
03:12:06,040 --> 03:12:06,420
It works.

5313
03:12:06,540 --> 03:12:09,500
Becoming a layaway knight and since 2018 love

5314
03:12:09,500 --> 03:12:10,140
hearing that.

5315
03:12:10,580 --> 03:12:11,060
Fantastic.

5316
03:12:11,320 --> 03:12:12,880
You are going to be invited up on

5317
03:12:12,880 --> 03:12:14,460
the podium if you can give me your

5318
03:12:14,460 --> 03:12:15,160
blade, John.

5319
03:12:15,280 --> 03:12:16,540
Nice big sword.

5320
03:12:16,980 --> 03:12:17,480
There you go.

5321
03:12:17,660 --> 03:12:18,400
There it is.

5322
03:12:19,740 --> 03:12:21,000
Alright, Jeffrey Morrow.

5323
03:12:21,220 --> 03:12:23,740
Come on up, you sustaining donor guy.

5324
03:12:23,880 --> 03:12:25,200
Anonymous Black Sheep.

5325
03:12:26,300 --> 03:12:29,280
Eric Clay Thomason and Blake Luther.

5326
03:12:29,720 --> 03:12:32,960
All of you are now official knights of

5327
03:12:32,960 --> 03:12:34,040
the Noah Jenner Roundtable.

5328
03:12:34,180 --> 03:12:36,120
I am proud to pronounce you as Sir

5329
03:12:36,120 --> 03:12:36,800
Horseman.

5330
03:12:36,980 --> 03:12:38,100
Sir Snortle.

5331
03:12:38,420 --> 03:12:39,380
Sir M of Spokane.

5332
03:12:41,240 --> 03:12:43,700
Sir Jeffrey, I guess.

5333
03:12:44,440 --> 03:12:47,080
And Black Sheep Lord of the East Lansing

5334
03:12:47,080 --> 03:12:47,960
Hinterlands.

5335
03:12:48,200 --> 03:12:49,520
For all of you, we've got Hookers and

5336
03:12:49,520 --> 03:12:51,520
Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, along with that

5337
03:12:51,520 --> 03:12:53,540
some Rubinettes, Lemon and Rosé, Vodka and Vanilla,

5338
03:12:53,660 --> 03:12:56,200
Bong hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts,

5339
03:12:56,320 --> 03:12:58,500
Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Fresh Milk and Pablum,

5340
03:12:58,700 --> 03:13:00,780
and as always we've got you some mutton

5341
03:13:00,780 --> 03:13:02,080
and some mead.

5342
03:13:02,140 --> 03:13:04,800
Go to NoahJennerRings.com just like everybody else.

5343
03:13:05,400 --> 03:13:08,080
Did I miss this anonymous Black Sheep knight?

5344
03:13:09,100 --> 03:13:11,840
I guess I guess we knighted him but

5345
03:13:11,840 --> 03:13:15,380
we gave him the wrong name.

5346
03:13:18,380 --> 03:13:18,820
Not sure.

5347
03:13:19,320 --> 03:13:20,500
This is so confusing.

5348
03:13:21,500 --> 03:13:24,600
And Eric Clay was also a layaway knight

5349
03:13:24,600 --> 03:13:26,680
after years of throwing pennies and nickels into

5350
03:13:26,680 --> 03:13:27,720
value for value.

5351
03:13:29,500 --> 03:13:31,240
He became Sir Snortle.

5352
03:13:31,420 --> 03:13:32,580
Okay, I think I got everything right.

5353
03:13:32,820 --> 03:13:37,140
The guy who got his name wrong, anonymous

5354
03:13:37,140 --> 03:13:40,060
Black Sheep, now E61 Black Sheep Lord of

5355
03:13:40,060 --> 03:13:41,400
the East Lansing Hinterlands.

5356
03:13:41,760 --> 03:13:43,180
He says he feels he should be a

5357
03:13:43,180 --> 03:13:45,540
Black Knight but I don't think that counts.

5358
03:13:45,660 --> 03:13:46,660
We didn't forget him.

5359
03:13:47,180 --> 03:13:48,240
We just did the wrong name.

5360
03:13:48,360 --> 03:13:48,840
Am I correct?

5361
03:13:49,840 --> 03:13:51,780
That would be my assumption, yeah.

5362
03:13:51,860 --> 03:13:52,100
Okay.

5363
03:13:52,360 --> 03:13:53,700
Take it up with the back office.

5364
03:13:54,040 --> 03:13:57,180
Notes at NoahJennerShow.net You can always send

5365
03:13:57,180 --> 03:14:00,140
in a request for a variance.

5366
03:14:00,500 --> 03:14:01,800
Well, I think he did send in the

5367
03:14:01,800 --> 03:14:02,200
request.

5368
03:14:02,420 --> 03:14:03,500
Form 414.

5369
03:14:03,620 --> 03:14:04,620
Did he send that in?

5370
03:14:04,620 --> 03:14:06,380
He did not send in the form.

5371
03:14:06,480 --> 03:14:07,880
That is exactly the problem.

5372
03:14:08,060 --> 03:14:08,900
NoahJennerRings.com.

5373
03:14:08,940 --> 03:14:10,680
Go take a look at that handsome knight

5374
03:14:10,680 --> 03:14:10,900
ring.

5375
03:14:11,000 --> 03:14:12,460
It's a signet ring, so it comes with

5376
03:14:12,460 --> 03:14:14,260
sticks of wax which you can melt and

5377
03:14:14,260 --> 03:14:15,940
then stick your ring into it to seal

5378
03:14:15,940 --> 03:14:17,080
your important correspondence.

5379
03:14:17,300 --> 03:14:19,600
And as always, with a certificate of authenticity.

5380
03:14:19,900 --> 03:14:21,500
And welcome again to the roundtable of the

5381
03:14:21,500 --> 03:14:23,400
Noah Jenner Knights and Dames.

5382
03:14:23,960 --> 03:14:27,300
Noah Jenner Meetups!

5383
03:14:30,260 --> 03:14:32,820
And those meetups take place all around the

5384
03:14:32,820 --> 03:14:33,080
globe.

5385
03:14:33,180 --> 03:14:34,780
We love it when people send in reports

5386
03:14:34,780 --> 03:14:36,200
and let us know how things went.

5387
03:14:36,320 --> 03:14:40,540
And we have a very famous super arch...

5388
03:14:40,540 --> 03:14:41,800
What is the top level?

5389
03:14:42,020 --> 03:14:42,700
The Archduke?

5390
03:14:45,060 --> 03:14:45,900
Grand Duke.

5391
03:14:45,980 --> 03:14:46,520
Grand Duke.

5392
03:14:46,620 --> 03:14:47,060
I'm sorry.

5393
03:14:47,660 --> 03:14:49,260
The Grand Duke of Tokyo.

5394
03:14:49,620 --> 03:14:51,160
That's who I'm talking about.

5395
03:14:51,880 --> 03:14:53,400
Grand Duke Mark.

5396
03:14:54,040 --> 03:14:56,580
And he sent us the report for the

5397
03:14:56,580 --> 03:14:58,500
Tokyo Meetup from May 31st.

5398
03:14:58,600 --> 03:14:59,160
Hey, John.

5399
03:14:59,420 --> 03:14:59,900
Hey, Adam.

5400
03:15:00,180 --> 03:15:00,760
Sir Mark here.

5401
03:15:01,180 --> 03:15:03,220
We're having another great meetup in Tokyo.

5402
03:15:03,500 --> 03:15:06,140
Rolling out the red carpet for our international

5403
03:15:06,140 --> 03:15:06,720
guests.

5404
03:15:07,980 --> 03:15:08,480
Irasshaimase!

5405
03:15:09,240 --> 03:15:11,200
In the morning from Tokyo!

5406
03:15:12,140 --> 03:15:14,640
In the morning this is Sir Patrick Hobo,

5407
03:15:14,760 --> 03:15:16,280
the Duke of the South, out here in

5408
03:15:16,280 --> 03:15:16,940
Ten Cups.

5409
03:15:17,400 --> 03:15:17,660
Howdy.

5410
03:15:18,060 --> 03:15:18,760
And Dame Sarah.

5411
03:15:19,360 --> 03:15:20,020
Dame Catherine.

5412
03:15:20,220 --> 03:15:21,220
They're eating the dogs.

5413
03:15:21,720 --> 03:15:22,360
Sir James.

5414
03:15:22,500 --> 03:15:23,380
They're eating the cats.

5415
03:15:23,820 --> 03:15:24,620
This is Marina.

5416
03:15:24,900 --> 03:15:25,420
Hi, Dad.

5417
03:15:25,460 --> 03:15:26,160
I know you're listening.

5418
03:15:26,620 --> 03:15:27,280
This is Harold.

5419
03:15:27,720 --> 03:15:28,580
Yoroshiku onegaishimasu.

5420
03:15:29,140 --> 03:15:29,740
This is Abby.

5421
03:15:30,060 --> 03:15:30,780
I got ants.

5422
03:15:31,320 --> 03:15:32,340
Hey, Adam and John C.

5423
03:15:32,400 --> 03:15:33,980
This is Brandon coming to you from Ten

5424
03:15:33,980 --> 03:15:34,780
Cups in Tokyo.

5425
03:15:35,160 --> 03:15:37,280
I sunk my boat today in Yokohama Harbour.

5426
03:15:37,560 --> 03:15:38,460
Otsukaresama deshita.

5427
03:15:38,740 --> 03:15:40,160
Hi, John and Adam.

5428
03:15:40,600 --> 03:15:44,260
Much love to you both and we're celebrating

5429
03:15:44,260 --> 03:15:47,200
Onosato's win to Yokozuna.

5430
03:15:47,680 --> 03:15:47,880
Yay!

5431
03:15:48,900 --> 03:15:50,040
Dame Astrid here.

5432
03:15:50,880 --> 03:15:55,340
Straight from Tokyo, here's Raven!

5433
03:15:57,560 --> 03:16:00,220
Raven now apparently has a job in Tokyo.

5434
03:16:00,220 --> 03:16:04,100
And Sir Mark also sent me pictures of

5435
03:16:04,100 --> 03:16:04,580
the meet-up.

5436
03:16:04,740 --> 03:16:05,760
Good-looking people.

5437
03:16:05,880 --> 03:16:07,580
There were so many night in Dame rings

5438
03:16:07,580 --> 03:16:08,320
it wasn't funny.

5439
03:16:08,540 --> 03:16:11,720
And Dame Astrid has a dynamite new hairdo.

5440
03:16:12,400 --> 03:16:13,220
It's short.

5441
03:16:13,340 --> 03:16:14,360
It looks fantastic.

5442
03:16:15,100 --> 03:16:16,000
I'm just saying that.

5443
03:16:16,620 --> 03:16:19,140
A promo sent in by Dirty Jersey Whore.

5444
03:16:19,220 --> 03:16:19,960
Way too long.

5445
03:16:20,080 --> 03:16:21,480
The East Texas June meet-up.

5446
03:16:21,560 --> 03:16:23,180
Let's listen how long we can stand it.

5447
03:16:24,680 --> 03:16:27,280
Y'all come on down to Rotolo's Pizzeria

5448
03:16:27,280 --> 03:16:32,200
in Longview, Texas for an extraordinary gathering of

5449
03:16:32,200 --> 03:16:32,540
minds.

5450
03:16:32,660 --> 03:16:35,200
Indeed, my dear friends, do allow me to

5451
03:16:35,200 --> 03:16:37,700
extend a most cordial invitation.

5452
03:16:38,020 --> 03:16:41,440
Prepare yourselves for we are orchestrating a rendezvous

5453
03:16:41,440 --> 03:16:44,180
that promises to be more delightful than a

5454
03:16:44,180 --> 03:16:46,760
perfectly brewed cup of Earl Grey on a

5455
03:16:46,760 --> 03:16:47,480
crisp morning.

5456
03:16:47,680 --> 03:16:51,080
Kindly mark your esteemed calendars for the 29th

5457
03:16:51,080 --> 03:16:54,380
of June at 3.33pm. This, I assure

5458
03:16:54,380 --> 03:16:57,380
you, is to be a most agreeable, unburdened,

5459
03:16:57,480 --> 03:17:00,160
and utterly no agenda short of gathering.

5460
03:17:00,420 --> 03:17:03,940
An opportunity for us to simply relax, exchange

5461
03:17:03,940 --> 03:17:04,620
pleasantries.

5462
03:17:04,960 --> 03:17:08,260
One might even anticipate a few spirited discussions.

5463
03:17:08,900 --> 03:17:12,960
Shall we say, conspiracy laced yawns over a

5464
03:17:12,960 --> 03:17:13,520
refreshing beverage.

5465
03:17:13,520 --> 03:17:14,820
You have to hit the gong when you're

5466
03:17:14,820 --> 03:17:15,400
tired of it.

5467
03:17:16,800 --> 03:17:19,720
There will be no grand pronouncements, no tiresome

5468
03:17:19,720 --> 03:17:20,120
pitches.

5469
03:17:20,400 --> 03:17:20,860
There it is.

5470
03:17:20,920 --> 03:17:21,500
There's the gong.

5471
03:17:22,420 --> 03:17:24,020
Two minutes of promo.

5472
03:17:24,180 --> 03:17:25,020
That's not a promo.

5473
03:17:25,700 --> 03:17:27,460
That's longer than I allow end of show

5474
03:17:27,460 --> 03:17:27,860
mixes.

5475
03:17:28,160 --> 03:17:28,880
Dirty Jersey lore.

5476
03:17:29,220 --> 03:17:30,460
30 seconds should be your goal.

5477
03:17:30,620 --> 03:17:31,280
Yeah, I think so.

5478
03:17:31,300 --> 03:17:31,500
30 seconds.

5479
03:17:31,620 --> 03:17:32,400
I think so too.

5480
03:17:32,560 --> 03:17:33,240
I think so too.

5481
03:17:33,400 --> 03:17:35,380
It was cute, but it's just too much.

5482
03:17:35,500 --> 03:17:35,720
Sorry.

5483
03:17:35,840 --> 03:17:37,060
Think of it as a TV ad.

5484
03:17:37,200 --> 03:17:37,340
Yeah.

5485
03:17:37,380 --> 03:17:39,900
They sell them in 30-second increments.

5486
03:17:40,020 --> 03:17:41,460
The one-minute ones are boring.

5487
03:17:41,780 --> 03:17:43,140
Yeah, this was two minutes.

5488
03:17:43,720 --> 03:17:44,120
Yeah.

5489
03:17:44,320 --> 03:17:44,720
Too long.

5490
03:17:45,820 --> 03:17:47,560
There is a meetup happening tomorrow.

5491
03:17:47,820 --> 03:17:49,360
Big Tom's Bar in Brussels.

5492
03:17:49,560 --> 03:17:51,420
Oh yes, we want to have the Soffits

5493
03:17:51,420 --> 03:17:53,160
in Brussels, Belgium meetup report.

5494
03:17:53,400 --> 03:17:55,200
Remember to include your server 6 o'clock

5495
03:17:55,200 --> 03:17:58,280
at last-minute meetup at Big Tom's Bar.

5496
03:17:58,900 --> 03:18:00,220
Can't wait to hear the report from that.

5497
03:18:00,320 --> 03:18:01,620
And on Sunday, our next show day, the

5498
03:18:01,620 --> 03:18:04,020
4th annual Louisiana Crawfish Boil.

5499
03:18:04,380 --> 03:18:05,660
2 o'clock is when it kicks off

5500
03:18:05,660 --> 03:18:06,680
at Shaw Acres.

5501
03:18:06,780 --> 03:18:08,360
You've got a RSVP for that one in

5502
03:18:08,360 --> 03:18:09,960
Prairieville, Louisiana.

5503
03:18:10,200 --> 03:18:11,420
Mary Moon is hosting that.

5504
03:18:11,660 --> 03:18:13,240
Sounds like that's going to be fun.

5505
03:18:13,560 --> 03:18:15,840
Coming up on the agenda, we have the

5506
03:18:16,320 --> 03:18:18,220
Copenhagen, Denmark meetup.

5507
03:18:18,600 --> 03:18:23,340
We have the Lazarus-Waadt-Culemborg meetup.

5508
03:18:23,640 --> 03:18:24,740
New York City.

5509
03:18:25,260 --> 03:18:26,380
This is on the 14th.

5510
03:18:26,780 --> 03:18:30,360
We've got Cannes in France on the 17th.

5511
03:18:30,540 --> 03:18:32,360
Who says we're not international?

5512
03:18:32,980 --> 03:18:35,020
Please, I want to have meetup reports from

5513
03:18:35,020 --> 03:18:36,660
all of these faraway places.

5514
03:18:37,340 --> 03:18:39,540
And you can schedule your own or find

5515
03:18:39,540 --> 03:18:41,960
out where these are at noagendameetups.com.

5516
03:18:42,080 --> 03:18:43,340
Go ahead, go check it out.

5517
03:18:43,560 --> 03:18:45,280
If you can't find one near you, you

5518
03:18:45,280 --> 03:18:46,560
must start one yourself.

5519
03:18:46,680 --> 03:18:47,060
It's a fact.

5520
03:18:49,880 --> 03:18:54,480
With all the nights and days You wanna

5521
03:18:54,480 --> 03:18:57,780
be where you won't be Triggered on hell's

5522
03:18:57,780 --> 03:19:02,180
flame You wanna be where everybody feels the

5523
03:19:02,920 --> 03:19:07,300
same It's like a party So have I

5524
03:19:07,300 --> 03:19:10,620
now detected Oh no, you do have one

5525
03:19:10,620 --> 03:19:10,860
ISO.

5526
03:19:10,940 --> 03:19:12,140
I thought that you were like on some

5527
03:19:12,140 --> 03:19:16,160
kind of strike because I didn't like the

5528
03:19:16,820 --> 03:19:20,680
the AI You don't like the good AI

5529
03:19:20,680 --> 03:19:22,480
ones even though you loved them for a

5530
03:19:22,480 --> 03:19:23,800
couple of months until you found out they

5531
03:19:23,800 --> 03:19:24,160
were AI.

5532
03:19:24,400 --> 03:19:26,180
You're an AI bigot.

5533
03:19:26,380 --> 03:19:26,780
Correct.

5534
03:19:27,160 --> 03:19:27,740
That would be me.

5535
03:19:27,820 --> 03:19:29,400
So you have a four second one?

5536
03:19:29,860 --> 03:19:31,620
That's a violation itself.

5537
03:19:32,540 --> 03:19:34,600
Says three seconds on my rundown.

5538
03:19:34,720 --> 03:19:36,360
I would like to introduce you to a

5539
03:19:36,360 --> 03:19:38,080
new brand of Angus beef.

5540
03:19:41,610 --> 03:19:42,330
Here's mine.

5541
03:19:42,530 --> 03:19:45,430
It is damn good storytelling.

5542
03:19:47,250 --> 03:19:47,690
Boom.

5543
03:19:47,930 --> 03:19:49,030
Do you like that one?

5544
03:19:49,530 --> 03:19:49,710
Yeah.

5545
03:19:49,810 --> 03:19:50,950
Okay, we'll use that one.

5546
03:19:51,050 --> 03:19:52,410
And right now ladies and gentlemen as we

5547
03:19:52,410 --> 03:19:53,750
round out the show it is time for

5548
03:19:53,750 --> 03:20:07,530
the famous John's tip of the day My

5549
03:20:07,530 --> 03:20:10,110
ISO is actually designed to kind of ridicule

5550
03:20:10,110 --> 03:20:12,430
Megyn Kelly and her advertising.

5551
03:20:12,870 --> 03:20:14,570
Oh my gosh she does so much of

5552
03:20:14,570 --> 03:20:14,770
it.

5553
03:20:14,950 --> 03:20:16,850
And a lot of it native or native

5554
03:20:16,850 --> 03:20:17,390
sounding.

5555
03:20:19,170 --> 03:20:19,730
Yes.

5556
03:20:20,110 --> 03:20:20,450
Yeah.

5557
03:20:21,210 --> 03:20:22,370
She's good at it.

5558
03:20:22,450 --> 03:20:24,050
I have to say she's just good.

5559
03:20:24,390 --> 03:20:24,830
She's good.

5560
03:20:26,010 --> 03:20:27,050
Megyn is good.

5561
03:20:27,150 --> 03:20:29,130
Her morning updates, I listen to that every

5562
03:20:29,130 --> 03:20:29,310
day.

5563
03:20:29,630 --> 03:20:31,210
I like her morning updates.

5564
03:20:31,390 --> 03:20:34,230
She's become like a little network of sorts.

5565
03:20:35,210 --> 03:20:37,010
A little network of sorts.

5566
03:20:37,630 --> 03:20:39,210
She's 5'6".

5567
03:20:40,370 --> 03:20:41,490
135 pounds.

5568
03:20:43,810 --> 03:20:47,310
Okay, so you've had these little lighter devices.

5569
03:20:47,450 --> 03:20:48,750
Scripto usually makes them.

5570
03:20:48,870 --> 03:20:50,970
You squeeze them and a little flame comes

5571
03:20:50,970 --> 03:20:53,630
out the top and you light your fireplace

5572
03:20:53,630 --> 03:20:54,230
fire.

5573
03:20:54,330 --> 03:20:54,830
No.

5574
03:20:55,270 --> 03:20:58,370
I just use a Zippo like all men.

5575
03:20:59,390 --> 03:21:02,370
You use a Zippo lighter for like a

5576
03:21:02,370 --> 03:21:03,170
cigarette lighter?

5577
03:21:03,390 --> 03:21:04,510
Yeah, Zippo baby.

5578
03:21:05,350 --> 03:21:06,750
You have to stick it in there.

5579
03:21:06,830 --> 03:21:07,950
It completely doesn't have a point.

5580
03:21:08,130 --> 03:21:10,730
Well anyway, most people have these Scriptos, these

5581
03:21:10,730 --> 03:21:13,050
lighters that they light barbecues with.

5582
03:21:13,430 --> 03:21:17,190
For example, if you use a Zippo lighter

5583
03:21:17,190 --> 03:21:20,250
to light a barbecue, if you soaked it

5584
03:21:20,250 --> 03:21:23,610
in some sort of flammable liquid, you'd blow

5585
03:21:23,610 --> 03:21:24,590
off your hand.

5586
03:21:27,890 --> 03:21:32,590
So anyway, don't buy the ones that you

5587
03:21:32,590 --> 03:21:34,250
normally get which have a little flame that

5588
03:21:34,250 --> 03:21:35,770
come out, but you click and it could

5589
03:21:35,770 --> 03:21:36,990
flame because it's wimpy.

5590
03:21:37,590 --> 03:21:39,370
You want to skip that.

5591
03:21:39,370 --> 03:21:42,830
Scripto also makes an obscure, more obscure, but

5592
03:21:42,830 --> 03:21:43,590
you can find them.

5593
03:21:44,870 --> 03:21:46,710
They're called a torch flame.

5594
03:21:48,250 --> 03:21:50,990
And it's literally it looks just like a

5595
03:21:50,990 --> 03:21:53,350
regular Scripto thing with the pointy end and

5596
03:21:53,350 --> 03:21:56,550
the little thing you click like that.

5597
03:21:58,210 --> 03:22:00,670
Only the flame is not like some wimpy

5598
03:22:00,670 --> 03:22:00,990
flame.

5599
03:22:01,230 --> 03:22:04,970
It's like a propane, butane thing that you

5600
03:22:04,970 --> 03:22:05,990
could weld with.

5601
03:22:06,070 --> 03:22:09,290
You can use, you can solder with this

5602
03:22:09,290 --> 03:22:09,610
thing.

5603
03:22:10,530 --> 03:22:12,730
It's an intense little flame.

5604
03:22:12,990 --> 03:22:17,010
It's dangerously so that could like burn through

5605
03:22:17,010 --> 03:22:17,470
stuff.

5606
03:22:17,690 --> 03:22:18,470
It's fabulous.

5607
03:22:18,950 --> 03:22:20,070
This is the way to go.

5608
03:22:20,170 --> 03:22:21,510
It's called a torch flame.

5609
03:22:22,210 --> 03:22:22,910
You can find them.

5610
03:22:22,970 --> 03:22:23,650
They do have them.

5611
03:22:23,930 --> 03:22:25,950
You have to almost look it up specifically

5612
03:22:25,950 --> 03:22:26,490
to find them.

5613
03:22:26,510 --> 03:22:27,790
They only sell them in onesies.

5614
03:22:27,930 --> 03:22:29,410
They're not in packs of three.

5615
03:22:30,310 --> 03:22:31,870
And you have to actually look for them.

5616
03:22:31,950 --> 03:22:33,730
And they vary in price, but they're about

5617
03:22:33,730 --> 03:22:35,790
the same price although I've seen them more

5618
03:22:35,790 --> 03:22:36,230
expensive.

5619
03:22:36,790 --> 03:22:38,170
They're about the same price as the wimpy

5620
03:22:38,170 --> 03:22:39,070
little lighter.

5621
03:22:39,290 --> 03:22:39,850
This is what you want.

5622
03:22:40,150 --> 03:22:42,730
Torch flame from Scripto.

5623
03:22:43,150 --> 03:22:44,070
Torch flame.

5624
03:22:44,350 --> 03:22:45,490
I'm looking it up here.

5625
03:22:45,530 --> 03:22:46,510
How big is this thing?

5626
03:22:47,190 --> 03:22:48,210
It's the normal size.

5627
03:22:48,370 --> 03:22:49,670
It's the size of every one of these

5628
03:22:49,670 --> 03:22:49,970
things.

5629
03:22:50,050 --> 03:22:51,670
They're all about the same size as the

5630
03:22:51,670 --> 03:22:52,930
regular Scripto lighter.

5631
03:22:53,690 --> 03:22:56,070
But this thing is what you want.

5632
03:22:56,930 --> 03:22:57,370
Wow.

5633
03:22:58,330 --> 03:22:58,990
That looks cool.

5634
03:22:59,070 --> 03:23:00,770
You can also do creme brulee with it.

5635
03:23:01,710 --> 03:23:02,150
Yes.

5636
03:23:02,310 --> 03:23:03,370
That's the cool thing.

5637
03:23:03,490 --> 03:23:07,350
But you can literally burn your initials in

5638
03:23:07,350 --> 03:23:08,630
the creme brulee.

5639
03:23:08,670 --> 03:23:09,750
There it is, ladies and gentlemen.

5640
03:23:09,870 --> 03:23:10,230
John C.

5641
03:23:10,250 --> 03:23:11,150
Dvorak Tip of the Day.

5642
03:23:11,210 --> 03:23:12,750
Look at all of them at tipoftheday.net.

5643
03:23:14,430 --> 03:23:23,850
Created by Dana Brunetti.

5644
03:23:23,990 --> 03:23:24,450
That's right.

5645
03:23:24,510 --> 03:23:26,010
Where would we be without Dana Brunetti?

5646
03:23:26,130 --> 03:23:27,850
We'd barely have a show without him.

5647
03:23:28,470 --> 03:23:30,230
He says he's going to do the diploma

5648
03:23:31,210 --> 03:23:32,360
The commencement speech?

5649
03:23:33,470 --> 03:23:33,670
Yeah.

5650
03:23:35,170 --> 03:23:37,150
I knew we could get him for that.

5651
03:23:37,270 --> 03:23:39,410
Well, he also has demands.

5652
03:23:39,690 --> 03:23:39,930
Great.

5653
03:23:40,250 --> 03:23:40,410
Oh.

5654
03:23:42,030 --> 03:23:43,230
It's a great get.

5655
03:23:43,310 --> 03:23:46,170
Well, he gets the honorary degree, which is

5656
03:23:46,170 --> 03:23:48,070
even worse than a regular degree.

5657
03:23:48,730 --> 03:23:49,530
But he has other demands.

5658
03:23:49,630 --> 03:23:49,930
All right.

5659
03:23:49,990 --> 03:23:51,790
Well, I'm sure we will buckle to his

5660
03:23:51,790 --> 03:23:54,010
demands because after all, he's Hollywood royalty.

5661
03:23:56,270 --> 03:23:58,250
On the way, if you listen to your

5662
03:23:58,250 --> 03:24:00,610
live stream, we have next on the No

5663
03:24:00,610 --> 03:24:05,270
Agenda stream, Complex Candor, which I'm not familiar

5664
03:24:05,270 --> 03:24:06,310
with this podcast.

5665
03:24:07,330 --> 03:24:08,530
Complexcandor.com.

5666
03:24:08,650 --> 03:24:10,230
The episode is titled Spirit.

5667
03:24:11,270 --> 03:24:14,210
And before that, you will hear outstanding end

5668
03:24:14,210 --> 03:24:16,970
of show mixes from Fletcher, from Vinnie Payne,

5669
03:24:17,110 --> 03:24:18,010
and Mellow D.

5670
03:24:18,590 --> 03:24:19,210
That's right.

5671
03:24:19,990 --> 03:24:22,050
And we'll be back on Sunday with more

5672
03:24:22,050 --> 03:24:24,350
media deconstruction for you coming to you right

5673
03:24:24,350 --> 03:24:27,570
now from the hill country of Texas, which

5674
03:24:27,570 --> 03:24:29,770
is where the lunches are held by the

5675
03:24:29,770 --> 03:24:31,170
ladies, and we learn a lot.

5676
03:24:31,350 --> 03:24:33,330
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

5677
03:24:33,530 --> 03:24:35,790
And from northern Silicon Valley, where everything I

5678
03:24:35,790 --> 03:24:38,090
said earlier is wrong, it's too windy here.

5679
03:24:38,150 --> 03:24:38,730
I'm John C.

5680
03:24:38,810 --> 03:24:39,090
Dvorak.

5681
03:24:39,110 --> 03:24:40,150
We return on Sunday.

5682
03:24:40,310 --> 03:24:42,910
Please remember us at noagendadonations.com.

5683
03:24:42,950 --> 03:24:46,690
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and

5684
03:24:46,690 --> 03:24:47,350
such.

5685
03:24:50,430 --> 03:24:52,330
Adam Curry and John C.

5686
03:24:52,730 --> 03:24:54,950
Dvorak bringing it to you twice a week

5687
03:24:54,950 --> 03:24:56,790
as your mind is under attack from the

5688
03:24:56,790 --> 03:24:59,130
folks in the media that call themselves the

5689
03:24:59,130 --> 03:25:01,150
mainstream on the left and the right, but

5690
03:25:01,150 --> 03:25:02,730
it's all the same today.

5691
03:25:03,590 --> 03:25:05,710
The No Agenda Show with Adam Curry and

5692
03:25:05,710 --> 03:25:06,150
John C.

5693
03:25:06,210 --> 03:25:09,830
Dvorak, live every Sunday and Thursday 12 p

5694
03:25:09,830 --> 03:25:11,110
.m. 11 Central.

5695
03:25:12,470 --> 03:25:15,430
On noagendastream.com.

5696
03:25:15,590 --> 03:25:17,630
I've been in charge for these two gentlemen

5697
03:25:17,630 --> 03:25:18,710
right here.

5698
03:25:18,970 --> 03:25:22,010
They've been killing it for over 10 years.

5699
03:25:22,510 --> 03:25:30,290
Media fascination when your friends see you walking

5700
03:25:30,290 --> 03:25:30,590
in.

5701
03:25:34,840 --> 03:25:42,690
Then you can follow up with formula.org

5702
03:25:42,690 --> 03:25:43,990
slash n-a.

5703
03:25:44,210 --> 03:25:46,150
And that's the last motherfucking thing that I

5704
03:25:46,150 --> 03:25:47,350
am gonna say.

5705
03:25:47,830 --> 03:25:50,550
Dvorak.org slash n-a.

5706
03:25:50,990 --> 03:25:53,770
Dvorak.org slash n-a.

5707
03:25:54,210 --> 03:25:56,930
Dvorak.org slash n-a.

5708
03:25:57,430 --> 03:26:00,130
Dvorak.org slash n-a.

5709
03:26:00,130 --> 03:26:03,310
Dvorak.org slash n-a.

5710
03:26:03,670 --> 03:26:14,040
Dvorak.org Uhhhh

5711
03:26:14,040 --> 03:26:15,260
I'm down.

5712
03:26:15,340 --> 03:26:16,000
Thanks Obama.

5713
03:26:40,640 --> 03:26:42,380
What's that in your mouth?

5714
03:26:42,840 --> 03:26:44,080
It hasn't penetrated my...

5715
03:26:44,720 --> 03:26:46,600
Aggressive form of prostate cancer.

5716
03:26:48,720 --> 03:26:50,560
Aggressive form of prostate cancer.

5717
03:26:52,340 --> 03:26:55,240
I'm sorry, but have you ever noticed the

5718
03:26:55,240 --> 03:26:57,100
use of the word aggressive form of cancer?

5719
03:26:58,940 --> 03:26:59,270
Aggressive.

5720
03:27:00,920 --> 03:27:01,580
Aggressive.

5721
03:27:04,740 --> 03:27:06,500
Aggressive form of prostate cancer.

5722
03:27:12,610 --> 03:27:13,990
My bones are strong.

5723
03:27:14,130 --> 03:27:14,690
It hasn't penetrated.

5724
03:27:15,290 --> 03:27:17,930
Former President Joe Biden addressing his health for

5725
03:27:17,930 --> 03:27:19,670
the first time since being diagnosed with an

5726
03:27:19,670 --> 03:27:21,350
aggressive form of prostate cancer.

5727
03:27:21,670 --> 03:27:22,950
And he's started treatment.

5728
03:27:23,530 --> 03:27:24,430
I don't take any pills.

5729
03:27:25,670 --> 03:27:27,290
And for the next six months, I'm going

5730
03:27:27,290 --> 03:27:27,690
to another one.

5731
03:27:27,730 --> 03:27:28,830
He's at a Memorial Day service.

5732
03:27:30,490 --> 03:27:32,010
It hasn't penetrated my bones.

5733
03:27:32,090 --> 03:27:33,110
That's what he's literally saying.

5734
03:27:37,930 --> 03:27:38,850
I'm an American.

5735
03:27:39,110 --> 03:27:39,950
I'm an American.

5736
03:27:40,990 --> 03:27:43,910
He says, I'm an American.

5737
03:27:54,520 --> 03:27:58,040
The best podcast in the universe.

5738
03:27:58,240 --> 03:28:05,860
It is damn good storytelling.