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Hey, I can't do Jack.

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John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Sunday, March 30th, 2025.

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This is your Warner and Gitmo Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1751!

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This is no agenda.

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Feelin' faffy!

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And broadcasting live from the heart of the

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Texas Yulet Country here in FEMA Region Number

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7 or 6.

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Good morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're watching

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Canada.

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I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.

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In the morning!

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So this morning, one of our church ladies

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comes up to me and says, Adam, Adam,

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I have a question for you.

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What's that?

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Why do you always say FEMA Region Number

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6?

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And I realized there's a lot of people,

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and I, for some reason, that was in

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my head and I said FEMA Region Number

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7 just a minute ago.

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I don't know what I was thinking.

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And I realized that goes back to the

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Obama days.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, I had to explain it.

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People don't know what we're talking about.

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I think a lot of people don't know

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what we're talking about.

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That's what I told her.

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In general.

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Most of the stuff, you probably don't realize

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what we're talking about, exactly.

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No, we just take stuff for granted.

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We do take stuff for granted.

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Hey, I had a dinner the other night.

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I had a dinner.

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Which was rather interesting, this dinner.

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Well, I guess so.

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You wouldn't have brought it up.

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Well, you're always asking me after the show,

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I am.

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Have you got any dinners coming up?

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Yeah, it's so interesting.

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It gets me out of the house.

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We need some dinner stories.

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This was a good dinner.

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The international arms dealer was there.

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Ah, yes.

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He didn't really have anything new, although the

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entire fleet of African C-130s is now

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being outfitted with glass cockpits.

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But also there was the new CIO of

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the Department of Energy, who used to be

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on some kind of secret doge team.

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At the dinner at your house?

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No, it wasn't at our house.

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It was at one of our friends'.

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It was like a 20-people dinner.

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We do these dinners.

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Oh, it's a big dinner.

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It's a hill country get-together.

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Oh, a gathering.

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Yeah, and we'd never been to these people's

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home before.

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A nice house, big house, you know what

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Big house, yeah.

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One of those hill country mansion houses.

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And so the CIO, he shuttles between his

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home here and Washington, D.C. He comes

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back for the weekends.

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Now, I think he's taken a 300%

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salary cut or something, but he's a patriot,

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and that's why he's doing it.

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And so he's now the CIO of the

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Department of Energy, and he says, this place

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is crazy.

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I said, what do they do at Department

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of Energy?

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He said, well, that's a good question.

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Well, you know, the Department of Energy owns

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Area 51.

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You could have grilled them on that.

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I didn't know that.

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You should have prepped me.

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I told you.

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I mentioned it on the show before.

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I completely forgot.

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Because I visited Nellis in Vegas, and I

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got on a tour of the place and

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got some training, and I got to sit

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in on some training.

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It wasn't for me.

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Were you flying a saucer?

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Yeah, hold on to this stick.

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And the guy mentioned it.

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He just has one of these curiosities.

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You know, we've got nothing to do with

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Area 51.

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It's owned by the Department of Energy.

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I always thought that was interesting.

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Well, good, because now I have something to

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ask him next time we have a Hill

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And I said, what do you guys do?

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He said, well, that's a good question.

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What do you do?

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That's a good question.

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Excellent question.

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He was telling me about, you know, because

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he has a badge.

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He's got a badge.

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And so he shows up with his badge.

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And then he shows up with his badge.

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He's wearing a badge on his jacket?

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What do you mean?

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Well, that's what I said.

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I said, I mean, well, your badge to

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get into the building.

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He has a badge.

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He's got a badge.

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To get into the house?

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No, no, in the Department of Energy, you

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fool.

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Oh, so he's wearing one of those badges

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around his neck or something?

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Does he know that he's not in Washington

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or what?

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No, I'm saying when he goes there, he

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was relating a story to me.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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I misunderstood.

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So he has his badge, and he goes

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to the front entrance, and he gets two

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guys to escort him.

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He said, oh, no, sir.

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You with that badge, you're the equivalent of

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a two-star admiral here, which sounds impressive.

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And so he goes on to tell me.

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Is the badge on it?

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No, no, no, no.

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It's like a little picture, snapshot.

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He says what they mainly do is they

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run 12 labs.

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Labs.

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What do you mean, labs?

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Well, all the labs.

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What do these labs do?

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Mainly military stuff.

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And it's very unclear what these 12 labs

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They do stuff that has to do with

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energy.

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They do stuff.

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Stuff, stuff.

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He says mainly military.

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And he says there was some – oh,

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no, I forgot the name of it.

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Department of Energy, which I guess is gone

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now.

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companies, and they could determine what stuff the

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labs would work on.

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This is a sweet deal these guys had

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going on over there.

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So he said, well, we got in one

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week $380 million in savings.

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Just chop some stuff up.

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He says, we'll see what happens in week

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two.

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It was unbelievable.

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just one of the minor brushes with greatness

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that I had.

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So this home where we were at, I

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had not met these people.

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Well, yeah, I knew them from church.

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By the way, these are all church people.

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Oh, they're all churchies.

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Oh, they're all churchies.

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This is my people.

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It's my spiritual family, John.

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And so they moved from Houston, and it's

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a nice house.

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You walk up to the house, and the

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house goes, you are now being recorded.

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What?

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It does?

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You walk up to the house.

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Actually, it's the other way around.

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You're being recorded.

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Hi, you're being recorded.

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So anyway.

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They had cameras all over the place?

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Oh, yeah.

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I say, so, hey, man, what do you

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do?

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He says, oh, I sell data centers.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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So who do you sell them to?

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The hyperscalers.

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Oh, I got some questions for you.

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And he gives a free email account, that

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guy?

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The hyperscalers are the AI companies.

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That's really who the hyperscalers are.

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So his company builds data centers to sell

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them to all the AI companies.

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going on and why it comes at the

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end.

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So I say, hey, is it true?

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Because I heard about it, and then CNBC,

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they were saying it wasn't true.

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Is Microsoft canceling contracts?

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He says, oh, yeah.

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Plenty of companies are canceling contracts.

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I said, well, what is the problem?

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He said, well, there's a little bit of

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a downturn in the expectation of what they'll

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actually need for AI data centers.

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And he says, the biggest thing is now

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that the training of the models, turns out,

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might be a lot cheaper based upon the

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deep seek.

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See, all this got down.

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Yeah, the Chinese.

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That's what my son tells me.

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The Chinese thing has changed the way people

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are looking at this.

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Well, it gets worse, or better, in my

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case.

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So, you know, having your data center out

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somewhere, like at the oil barons former ranch

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that he sold for $15 million, it was

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worth three just because he had a transformer

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there, and there's no one around.

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buy that ranch back for pennies on the

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dollar.

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It's going to come true.

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He says, the big problem is the training,

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it's fine.

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You don't need to be anywhere.

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You can just be out in the middle

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of nowhere for training models.

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But now that that seems to be slowing

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down, or the expectations are much more limited,

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he says, now people need inference.

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Are you familiar with this term, inference?

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Yeah, inference is a thing called an inference

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engine.

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Yeah, so that means when you need to

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query the system in real time, he says,

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it's no good.

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It can't have latency.

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It can't be too far away.

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You need huge data pipes.

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And he says, you can't do that with

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a Starlink satellite.

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It was fine for training the data, but

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now when you've got to ship that data

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to end users, he says, they're all in

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the wrong place.

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And I'm like, okay, so.

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How much delay?

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What amount of delay is acceptable?

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Nothing.

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I use these things.

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If I have to wait five extra seconds,

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I don't care.

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Hey, are you going to argue with the

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guy who's living in the big house from

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this stuff, or are you going to argue

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with me?

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No, the guy with the big house always

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wins.

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Always wins.

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Don't argue with me.

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You're being recorded.

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He says, the good news is a lot

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of Bitcoin miners are stepping up, and they're

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taking over those data centers because we have

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liquid cooling.

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And so I'm like, man, do you care?

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He says, I don't know.

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Not really.

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Why not?

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Well, we got bought out by KKR and

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BlackRock a while ago, so everybody already got

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their money.

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It doesn't matter.

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They can blow that up at any time.

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They don't care.

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We don't care.

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Everybody got paid.

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Nobody cares.

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Have you seen my house?

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Nobody cares.

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Have you seen my house?

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He says, nobody cares.

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Nobody cares.

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So I'm thinking, I'm thinking there's trouble on

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the horizon.

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I said, well, how about quantum?

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He almost choked on his wine.

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Quantum.

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Quantum.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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Well, anybody who's anybody knows what's what.

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Yeah.

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Well, and so, you know, you can take

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that to DH Unplugged, maybe.

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Give your fans over there some inside intel.

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Well, if it's not a stock pick, then

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what's use?

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Well, the hyperscale, the hyperscalers are a big

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stock pick.

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If not, they're bought by BlackRock and KKR.

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No, but he's not the hyperscaler.

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He sells to the hyperscalers.

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Yeah, but is he a public company?

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No.

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No, but the point, no, you have to

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understand.

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The point is that when the picks and

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shovels aren't selling, that's the bottom of the

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mine.

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Everything up on top is falling apart.

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Take it all the way up to the

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top, up to Microsoft with their copilot.

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Copilot.

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How about Oracle?

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Have you ever used it?

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Oh, no, but Dave Jones has used it

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because, you know, he works.

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I've never used it.

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Now that you mention it, it keeps cropping

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up.

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I find it to be a nuisance.

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Well, if you say, yeah, I'll try it,

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then the first thing it tells me is,

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all right, well, you've got to have your

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OneDrive set up.

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I'm like, okay, click close.

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Yeah, this is classic Microsoft.

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I'm not going to log in.

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I am not going to log in.

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No, Dave Jones works in an accountancy firm,

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CPAs, and he says, it never works.

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Nothing works for anybody there.

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They said, okay, copilot, draw me a pie

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chart.

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Okay, I'm done, and there's no pie chart.

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There's nothing.

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It's just nothing.

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It just tells you it did it.

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It drew it in its mind.

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Well, that's a good bit.

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It drew it in my homework.

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It drew it in its own imagination.

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It's dumb.

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Well, then, let me get this out of

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the way since we got on this track

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just about AI, because I think this warrants

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a little bit of conversation.

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I think this is a very interesting move.

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Elon Musk just made an announcement on X

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that XAI has acquired X in an all

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-stock transaction.

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It values XAI at $80 billion and X

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at $33 billion.

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Keep in mind, Musk bought X, when it

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was then Twitter, for $44 billion back in

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2022.

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For more, we turn to Bloomberg's Max Chafkin,

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who covers all things Elon Musk for us.

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So, Max, he suggests that the combined company

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blends XAI's advanced AI capability and expertise with

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X's massive reach.

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Are you surprised by this one?

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Well, in some ways I'm surprised because we

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have this late Friday news in which one

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Elon Musk company is buying another Elon Musk

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company, not totally clear how they came up

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with the valuation.

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In another sense, it's not surprising because these

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two entities, XAI and X, have been kind

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of operating like one company.

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So X, which is the name for Twitter

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that Elon Musk gave it, has this chatbot

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inside of it, Grok.

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Grok was created by XAI.

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XAI is training off of data from X.

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I know it's a lot of X's there,

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essentially all your social media data.

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And it's also seemed like one of Musk's

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plans to make this Twitter acquisition pay off,

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you know, he paid $44 billion and then

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promptly lost a lot of the advertising, was

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to kind of pivot to AI.

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So you did sort of think, how is

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he going to do this while having XAI

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as a separate company?

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And I think now we have the answer.

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Well, it was poor reporting by Bloomberg.

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First of all, it was really $45 billion,

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00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:30,660
but they carry over $12 billion in debt.

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00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:33,020
This is a great way to keep everybody

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00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:33,840
hanging in there.

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00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:38,560
Hey, man, your $44 billion valuation just almost

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doubled.

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Congratulations.

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Now you're a proud owner of XAI stock.

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Nobody has any stock.

441
00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:47,660
It's privately held.

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00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,620
No, of course they have stock.

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It's internal stock.

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He has like 40 shareholders.

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40?

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00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:56,600
I thought there was only 10.

447
00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:59,080
No, no, it's a huge list.

448
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,740
Huge list.

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00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,920
That list is public.

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00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,120
This is the kind of creative accounting that

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00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:05,720
you run into.

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This is, again, an example of Musk.

453
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He must have some superstar guy that knows

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how to cook the books.

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He doesn't have time to do this.

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Someone else has to do this.

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00:14:16,340 --> 00:14:17,440
No, he doesn't have time to do anything,

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00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,120
but he found the guy.

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The guy.

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Hello, I'm the guy.

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The guy who can do this and that.

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He's a juggler.

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Look at this.

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Watch me act.

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Look at this.

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Whoa.

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It just turned into two balls.

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Woo!

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It's amazing.

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It's amazing.

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Magician.

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So he found a magician, and he did

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his magic, and there you have it.

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But the best part of that report is

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that XAI Grok is trained on X.

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Oh, man, how can that be any good

477
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down the road?

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It's just going to be slop.

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I mean, it's also learning about those TikTok

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nut jobs that you always bring clips from.

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So it's learning all that stuff.

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It's learning.

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It could probably create a TikTok maniac.

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This learning term.

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I have one more clip.

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This learning term is a very tricky term.

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It's not copying stuff.

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No, no.

489
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It's learning.

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Open AI is urging the Trump administration to

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loosen regulations on its industry, surrounding one of

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the most controversial aspects, copyrighted material.

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The tech giant submitted its proposal to the

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federal government Thursday, pushing the need for speed

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in AI innovation and to remove guardrails against

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tech companies, pointing to what it considers dangers

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posed for AI coming out of Beijing.

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China.

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AI action plan.

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Stargate.

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XAI, however, is currently in a legal and

502
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,780
PR battle with Elon Musk, who owns rival

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AI startup XAI and is one of the

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president's top advisers.

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In its proposal, OpenAI expressed frustration with regulations

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that restrict large language models from learning from

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copyrighted content and expanded fair use material to

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train with, claiming it needs the freedom to

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innovate in the national interest and a voluntary

510
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partnership between the federal government and the private

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sector instead of overly burdensome state laws.

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This is truly the only danger of these

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types of people running around in our government.

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It's our president.

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He has no idea.

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He trusts.

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Oh, yeah.

518
00:16:52,540 --> 00:16:53,300
It's great.

519
00:16:53,460 --> 00:16:54,580
AI is going to run the world.

520
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,220
It's phenomenal.

521
00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,040
It's just, what could go wrong?

522
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And it's crap.

523
00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:03,300
Microsoft is not a dumb company.

524
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When they say, yeah, I think we're going

525
00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:07,380
to chill out a little bit on this

526
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stuff.

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It's the same thing they do with the

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Internet, I might add.

529
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Oh, of course.

530
00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:12,800
Well, at least.

531
00:17:13,180 --> 00:17:13,920
Well, yeah, you're right.

532
00:17:14,020 --> 00:17:16,460
But then maybe Trump will say, I invented

533
00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:17,740
AI like Al Gore.

534
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It's just now OpenAI wants to broaden fair

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use.

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Oh, OK.

537
00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:27,980
Well, that's great.

538
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,000
Can I just play songs on the podcast?

539
00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:32,080
Can I play songs on the podcast now

540
00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,260
just to broaden up the the fair use

541
00:17:35,260 --> 00:17:39,220
clause, which is the already kind of opened

542
00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:39,960
interpretation?

543
00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:44,600
It's like this is this is going nowhere.

544
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There really is.

545
00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:50,080
I know you keep saying that, but keeps

546
00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,960
chugging away.

547
00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:53,900
Well, OK, let's let's just presume it's really

548
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going somewhere.

549
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,500
It's really great.

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00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:59,920
Allow me to play a clip from our

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new CDC director, Susan Menares.

552
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A lot of people not happy with her.

553
00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:11,120
No, this is this is this reminds me

554
00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:13,520
of the situation with the which I don't

555
00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,060
have any clips.

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I hear I hear chimes again, John.

557
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,820
I'm hearing chimes.

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I just I'm kicking it because I got

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my feet up on the desk.

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I'm here.

561
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:21,920
Is it me?

562
00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:23,600
Is it you?

563
00:18:23,820 --> 00:18:24,780
Jesus is coming.

564
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,840
I hear chimes.

565
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,120
I can tell you that probably for you.

566
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,340
So I got my feet up on the

567
00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:30,620
desk.

568
00:18:30,620 --> 00:18:34,560
I'm lean back in the chase and and

569
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,060
I got the chime thing is at the

570
00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:37,840
at the foot of the of my feet.

571
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,200
It's right there so I can kick it

572
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,060
like this.

573
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:40,760
Yeah.

574
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,220
And it makes a ding.

575
00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,020
But but I'm using a highly directional microphone.

576
00:18:45,260 --> 00:18:47,340
You don't understand because we have a noise

577
00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:47,620
gate.

578
00:18:47,740 --> 00:18:48,900
If it was there in the background the

579
00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:50,880
whole time, people wouldn't notice it that much.

580
00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:52,440
But now whenever you talk, you just hear

581
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,840
these chimes in the background.

582
00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:01,540
That doesn't change my attitude about this.

583
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,940
I'm using a highly directional mic.

584
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,940
Chimes are at the back and a mile

585
00:19:06,940 --> 00:19:07,480
away.

586
00:19:07,820 --> 00:19:09,140
Well, you know, the fact that this mic

587
00:19:09,140 --> 00:19:09,940
is picking it up.

588
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,660
It has to be a reflection.

589
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:12,640
You should be.

590
00:19:12,740 --> 00:19:14,480
You should be using the Curry one microphone.

591
00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:15,140
Oh, I'm sorry.

592
00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:16,100
You can't buy it.

593
00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:17,240
So, no, never mind.

594
00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:17,560
It's coming.

595
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,420
It's coming.

596
00:19:18,580 --> 00:19:18,780
Yeah.

597
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,520
So we're going to go back to the

598
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,640
CDC director, Susan Monaris.

599
00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:27,000
This is when she was over at DARPA

600
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,980
giving a little presentation.

601
00:19:29,540 --> 00:19:31,520
What we can expect, I presume, from her

602
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,660
as director of the Center for Disease Control.

603
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,820
We think about advancing AI for health care

604
00:19:37,820 --> 00:19:39,260
and a number of different facets.

605
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,880
So some are direct to the patients.

606
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,700
What tools and what capabilities can we develop

607
00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:47,840
to help them really understand where they are

608
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,120
in their health care journey?

609
00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:55,100
Empower them to make great decisions.

610
00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:57,960
We also think about AI from the provider

611
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,340
side.

612
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,140
How can we help providers better understand their

613
00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:01,400
patients?

614
00:20:01,460 --> 00:20:02,340
What happened to doctors?

615
00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:03,440
It's just providers.

616
00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:04,180
It's just some.

617
00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:06,640
That's because a lot of doctors have been

618
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,440
pushed aside for these nurses and these other.

619
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:11,860
There's a second one.

620
00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:12,700
Yeah.

621
00:20:13,180 --> 00:20:16,320
Injector, injectors, nurse practitioner.

622
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,520
There's another thing.

623
00:20:17,660 --> 00:20:18,560
There's a provider.

624
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,940
It's just dudes named Ben who press a

625
00:20:21,940 --> 00:20:22,860
button on the AI.

626
00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:24,340
I don't know anything.

627
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,760
Well, they know how to press the button

628
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,380
on the AI.

629
00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:29,380
But can we help providers optimize their time

630
00:20:29,380 --> 00:20:32,040
within the health system as they're seeing patients,

631
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,540
as they're trying to make complex decisions to

632
00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:38,400
create the conditions for improved patient health outcomes,

633
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,780
improved patient health outcomes?

634
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,400
How about I don't die?

635
00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:43,360
Is that is that an outcome?

636
00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:44,760
I can choose that option, please.

637
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,320
We also think about AI from the defensive

638
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:47,740
side.

639
00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,780
So we understand that there is a great

640
00:20:49,780 --> 00:20:51,060
vulnerable defensive side.

641
00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:52,380
It's defensive side.

642
00:20:52,620 --> 00:20:53,180
What?

643
00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:53,780
What?

644
00:20:53,780 --> 00:20:54,200
What?

645
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,680
What does that even mean?

646
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,960
Well, let's see if she explains it.

647
00:20:57,140 --> 00:20:59,340
We also think about AI from the defensive

648
00:20:59,340 --> 00:20:59,760
side.

649
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,760
So we understand that there is a great

650
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,240
vulnerability within the health ecosystem.

651
00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:06,800
More and more is coming online in the

652
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,980
Internet of Things that are going to have

653
00:21:08,980 --> 00:21:10,320
an incredibly positive effect.

654
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,980
All she does is buzzwords.

655
00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:14,060
The Internet of Things.

656
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,760
That's so.

657
00:21:16,020 --> 00:21:17,400
Who hired this woman?

658
00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:21,600
RFK Jr. Well, he's got his head up

659
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,260
his ass if he gave her a job.

660
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,420
But we also know it creates vulnerabilities.

661
00:21:25,420 --> 00:21:28,780
And so we're using that same AI technology

662
00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:32,140
to help defend against those vulnerabilities, to anticipate

663
00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:35,220
the negative implications that are happening within the

664
00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:36,200
health systems.

665
00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:39,060
Negative implications like you died.

666
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,740
And to try to stay ahead of it.

667
00:21:41,060 --> 00:21:42,940
ARPA-H takes on the entirety of the

668
00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:43,660
health ecosystem.

669
00:21:44,260 --> 00:21:45,860
She's the buzzword machine.

670
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,280
Yeah.

671
00:21:46,380 --> 00:21:47,420
Internet of buzzwords.

672
00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:48,060
She has said nothing.

673
00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:49,600
No, it's the Internet of buzzwords.

674
00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:50,340
She's perfect.

675
00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:51,440
Try to stay ahead of it.

676
00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:53,660
ARPA-H takes on the entirety of the

677
00:21:53,660 --> 00:21:54,400
health ecosystem.

678
00:21:55,380 --> 00:21:55,780
Entirety.

679
00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:56,900
The entirety of it.

680
00:21:56,940 --> 00:21:57,840
Biomedical research.

681
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,060
It's not just resilient systems.

682
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,180
It's not just investing in the tech of

683
00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:02,620
the future.

684
00:22:03,260 --> 00:22:04,380
It is all of those.

685
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,880
And what we do is we actually.

686
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,340
And more.

687
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,400
It's all of those.

688
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,520
It gets better and better.

689
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,000
It is all of those.

690
00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:12,860
And what we do is we actually go

691
00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:15,260
out and we seat these incredible innovators.

692
00:22:15,380 --> 00:22:16,680
We call them our program managers.

693
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,820
Program managers.

694
00:22:18,220 --> 00:22:19,840
Now there's a new position.

695
00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:21,500
They're incredible innovators, by the way.

696
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,640
Yes, the program managers.

697
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,660
Not just an innovator, but they're incredible innovators.

698
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,300
Incredible innovators.

699
00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:27,920
They're great.

700
00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:30,060
We actually go out and we seat these

701
00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:31,180
incredible innovators.

702
00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:32,520
We call them our program managers.

703
00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:33,940
We call them our program managers.

704
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,500
And they come to us and they say,

705
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,060
you know, here are the big problems that

706
00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:40,500
we're seeing in the health ecosystem space.

707
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,540
The health ecosystem space.

708
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,780
The health ecosystem space.

709
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:45,640
The health, the HES.

710
00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:46,760
Hold on a second.

711
00:22:47,260 --> 00:22:48,640
What's the acronym for that?

712
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,060
Health Ecosystem HES.

713
00:22:50,140 --> 00:22:50,600
That's not good.

714
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,340
We will fund anything across the health ecosystem,

715
00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,400
so long as it helps further our mission,

716
00:22:56,580 --> 00:22:58,520
which is to improve health outcomes for everyone.

717
00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,240
Oh, everybody, your health outcomes are going to

718
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,700
improve.

719
00:23:04,220 --> 00:23:05,960
What a crock of crap that is.

720
00:23:08,980 --> 00:23:10,320
I knew you'd love it.

721
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,280
It's great.

722
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:12,640
It's great.

723
00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:14,780
Hold on a second.

724
00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:17,080
You played this as some sort of slam

725
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,080
against AI.

726
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,400
It's got nothing to do with any of

727
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:20,640
it.

728
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,360
Well, about the hype of it, it does.

729
00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:23,540
She's yammering about nothing.

730
00:23:25,180 --> 00:23:28,440
The problem is, these types of people believe

731
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,140
this stuff.

732
00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:31,720
I mean, look, Queen Ursula is already talking

733
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,160
about investing in quantum.

734
00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:34,780
Oh, we need to have quantum systems.

735
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,260
It makes me laugh.

736
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,480
She's taking European money and blowing it away.

737
00:23:40,180 --> 00:23:40,940
It's burning.

738
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,500
Yeah, that would be one way of doing

739
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:42,740
it.

740
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,660
I guarantee you that Susan Jomoke should be

741
00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:47,040
talking about quantum soon.

742
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,660
I can guarantee it.

743
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,360
Put it in the red book.

744
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:49,220
Quantum.

745
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,120
I don't have to put it in the

746
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:51,280
book.

747
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:51,740
You're right.

748
00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:53,500
Right now, you're right.

749
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,140
And where's Larry Ellison?

750
00:23:55,580 --> 00:23:56,840
He's Mr. Healthcare.

751
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,640
He should be talking about, oh, you know,

752
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:00,660
we have to be prepared for quantum.

753
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,940
He's almost died.

754
00:24:02,220 --> 00:24:05,160
I mean, the guy's, you know, accident prone.

755
00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:07,100
So he's, like, very health-oriented.

756
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,040
Oh, yeah, he crashed his plane and stuff,

757
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:10,400
doesn't he?

758
00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,840
Oh, no, he's gotten in a surfing wreck,

759
00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:13,420
I think.

760
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,960
He's out in the oceans all the time.

761
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,320
He hasn't had issues.

762
00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:21,640
Well, speaking of wrecks, and then I'll get

763
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,260
off the Elon stuff.

764
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,920
This report made me think of something that

765
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,480
I remember as a kid.

766
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,860
Now, the lithium ion batteries, like the ones

767
00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:33,560
in EVs, are completely changing how fire departments

768
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,280
are responding to these emergencies.

769
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,340
I talked to an expert who is traveling

770
00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:39,540
all over the country training fire departments.

771
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,340
I think that this is probably one of

772
00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:44,480
the, in the fire service career, you know,

773
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,840
decades, hundreds of years, this is probably the

774
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,820
most challenging time for the fire service in

775
00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:51,900
history.

776
00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:54,160
And it's still, and it has barely even,

777
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,920
we've barely touched it at this point.

778
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,600
So while these batteries have more power and

779
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,960
they're lasting longer, the big concern is the

780
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,360
design of the car, and then if that

781
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,020
battery is damaged in a thing like a

782
00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:05,360
crash.

783
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,900
These fires then end up burning faster and

784
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:09,920
hotter, as much as 2,000 degrees.

785
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,980
So firefighters are telling me that their top

786
00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:14,320
priority is pulling people out of the car.

787
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,880
Then it can take on average 5,000

788
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,700
gallons of water to put out one of

789
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,840
these car fires versus 500 gallons for non

790
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,560
-EV cars.

791
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:24,880
I asked Aurora Fire where you get that

792
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,580
kind of water.

793
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,000
Fire trucks typically carry 500 gallons, and if

794
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,660
you're not near a hydrant, let's say you're

795
00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:32,540
in the middle of the highway or somewhere

796
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:35,020
rural, that could mean rotating out engines or

797
00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:36,320
bringing in portable water.

798
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,340
And if there's one thing firefighters hope you

799
00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:39,680
take away from this is that a lot

800
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,960
of EV car doors are electric, and that

801
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,720
can go out during a fire, and then

802
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,640
you are stuck inside.

803
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,500
There's actually a manual way to open up

804
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,200
those car doors.

805
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,800
You just have to know where it is.

806
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,500
That information would be in your emergency guides.

807
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,580
Ask Mitch McConnell's sister.

808
00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:57,060
You know, that's the one thing about these

809
00:25:57,060 --> 00:26:01,380
cars I don't quite understand, is why do

810
00:26:01,380 --> 00:26:04,020
they have to make it so everything's electrified?

811
00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:08,500
I mean, a mechanical door opener, it seems

812
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:11,960
more practical because if the electricity goes out,

813
00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:13,100
you can't get out of the car.

814
00:26:13,460 --> 00:26:15,780
Oh, yeah, there's some mechanism that nobody knows

815
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:16,420
how to use.

816
00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:17,860
I think it's pure cost.

817
00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:19,580
I mean, what is the beauty of the

818
00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:23,280
electric vehicle is that it has far, far

819
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,340
less moving parts.

820
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:25,820
You just slap together some plastic.

821
00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:27,200
Yeah, moving parts do cost more, but how

822
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,680
much more does it cost?

823
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:30,480
Well, so that's the question.

824
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:30,820
A buck?

825
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,600
Five bucks?

826
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:31,840
Ten?

827
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,040
This is the question.

828
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,600
What is the cost of safety?

829
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,500
So now we all know, without a doubt,

830
00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:40,340
you crash your electric vehicle, you have a

831
00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:44,080
chance that not only will your vehicle ignite

832
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,740
at 2,000 degrees, it can't be put

833
00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:49,260
out easily, and they'll have to have the

834
00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:51,140
jaws of life because you can't figure out

835
00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:52,180
how to open up your door.

836
00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:54,680
And it reminded me of this.

837
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:57,260
In the 1970s, Ford's Pinto had a major

838
00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:57,820
defect.

839
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,340
The gas tank was prone to explode in

840
00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:01,180
rear-end collisions.

841
00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:04,280
What made this controversial wasn't just the flaw

842
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,960
itself, but Ford's internal cost-benefit analysis that

843
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,700
revealed that it would be cheaper to pay

844
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:12,740
off lawsuits than to fix the design, resulting

845
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:15,360
in an estimated number of 180 deaths.

846
00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:17,560
Do you think they've done the cost-benefit

847
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,100
analysis of the battery igniting in electric vehicles?

848
00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,920
I think all these car companies, all they

849
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,420
do is cost-benefit analysis.

850
00:27:26,660 --> 00:27:28,120
I think, I don't know where you got

851
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:28,860
that old clip.

852
00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:30,240
I had to go look for one.

853
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,640
Boy, I'll bet you did.

854
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,400
I had to search.

855
00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:33,080
I had to search.

856
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,300
But, yeah, they do cost-benefit analysis on

857
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:36,560
everything.

858
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,080
That's probably why they don't have the mechanical

859
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,820
door opener.

860
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,240
Right.

861
00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:41,020
Although it is kind of cool the thing

862
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:43,220
comes out and everyone thinks everything's cool, but

863
00:27:43,220 --> 00:27:44,140
it's still dumb.

864
00:27:44,380 --> 00:27:45,760
Yeah, well, it's not cool.

865
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,020
It's literally not cool if you're frying alive

866
00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:51,820
inside, but that was such a big deal.

867
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,020
You should have one of those ping, you

868
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:55,520
know, you have these things.

869
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Yeah, the hammer, the hammer ping.

870
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,680
The little bitty hammer with a piece of,

871
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,800
it's got a little tip on it that's

872
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,820
diamond.

873
00:28:03,020 --> 00:28:06,160
With a razor blade to cut your seat

874
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,380
belt.

875
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,380
Diamond tip, yes.

876
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:10,220
It's true, it does that too.

877
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,220
Because that's not going to unlatch either, but

878
00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:13,940
you're moving beyond the point.

879
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,160
How can, this was a huge deal in

880
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,720
the 70s.

881
00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:18,700
This was a big deal.

882
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,900
My grandmother had a Pinto.

883
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,180
She's like, ugh.

884
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,340
It wasn't that they were blowing up left

885
00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:26,640
and right, but it did happen.

886
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000
But it was, as the clip just explained,

887
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,380
it was the fact that they said, well,

888
00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:33,080
it's cheaper just to solve the lawsuits than

889
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,980
to fix the problem.

890
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,500
Yeah, I'm sure it is with these cars.

891
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,760
Now, the 50,000 gallon thing is what

892
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,500
bothers me.

893
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,400
5,000, not 50, 5,000.

894
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,160
5,000 as opposed to 500.

895
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:42,620
Yeah.

896
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,600
And it was a factor there of 10.

897
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,180
Yeah, 10.

898
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,700
So, is that if somebody, and I don't

899
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,700
understand why this can't be done chemically, because

900
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:53,940
it's a chemical reaction.

901
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:54,740
Flour.

902
00:28:54,980 --> 00:28:56,400
I hear flour is a good way to

903
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,180
put out fires.

904
00:28:57,540 --> 00:28:58,880
I don't think it's good on this.

905
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
There's got to be some chemistry that you

906
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,000
can employ that would put this fire out.

907
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,680
There has to be.

908
00:29:06,820 --> 00:29:07,500
I don't think so.

909
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,360
These things are just, these are nuclear generators.

910
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,160
This is a lithium fire.

911
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:15,580
This is like sodium does the same thing.

912
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,980
Well, let's ask Grok.

913
00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:20,690
I don't think Grok would know because I

914
00:29:20,690 --> 00:29:21,790
don't think it's in the literature.

915
00:29:21,790 --> 00:29:31,470
What chemical compound can extinguish a lithium-ion

916
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:33,390
battery fire?

917
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:35,830
Answer the question.

918
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:36,150
Go.

919
00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:40,320
Well, nothing.

920
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,740
Oh, wait.

921
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,180
Best compounds to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires.

922
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,660
Lith-X, which is a graphite-based powder.

923
00:29:51,140 --> 00:29:52,300
Lith-X?

924
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:53,900
Never heard of it.

925
00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:54,220
Never heard of it.

926
00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:56,060
I think Grok is making something up.

927
00:29:56,340 --> 00:29:57,520
Hey, it's another X product.

928
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,240
Lith-X.

929
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,240
It's got X in it.

930
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:00,880
It must be something.

931
00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:02,240
It must be.

932
00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:05,900
Class D dry powder extinguishers, which often contain

933
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:11,000
sodium chloride or copper-based powders, fire-suppressant

934
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,860
gels, or tetrapotassium pyrophosphate.

935
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,560
Well, now you're talking.

936
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:20,440
Now it sounds like something that would do

937
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,780
something.

938
00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:22,760
TKPP is what they call it.

939
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:26,660
Tetrapotassium pyrophosphate.

940
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,020
Hmm.

941
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,320
What not to use?

942
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:29,820
Water.

943
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,360
CO2 or halon.

944
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:33,940
Halon.

945
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:34,940
Definitely not halon.

946
00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:36,220
Anyway.

947
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Well, the problem with water is that it,

948
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:42,520
you know, like, for example, sodium, and they've

949
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,920
batteries, too, which are just explosive, is that

950
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,900
sodium, when it comes, when metallic sodium comes

951
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:57,260
in contact with water, it begins to form

952
00:30:57,260 --> 00:30:57,720
hydrogen.

953
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,440
It breaks the water down into hydrogen and

954
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,100
oxygen, and then they catch on fire.

955
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:02,780
Yeah, it explodes.

956
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,220
Nice.

957
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,660
And that's what a lot of kids used

958
00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:07,340
to do in certain colleges and high schools

959
00:31:07,340 --> 00:31:08,680
when we had labs.

960
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,700
Certain colleges?

961
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,980
Well, labs.

962
00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:14,120
Some jerk would grab a chunk of sodium,

963
00:31:14,140 --> 00:31:15,240
if he could get a hold of it,

964
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,800
throw it down the toilet, and flush it.

965
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,660
Oh, like a Cherry Bomb Plus.

966
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:24,380
So somewhere down the line, the thing would

967
00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:26,280
explode and blow up to the sewer.

968
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,100
Not a good idea.

969
00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:28,620
No.

970
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:30,340
Anyway.

971
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,040
Another reason to keep kids away from chemistry.

972
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:35,120
Yeah, keep them away from chemistry, and don't

973
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,260
drive these battery cars.

974
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:39,060
They just don't seem like safe products.

975
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,960
I don't care what they tell me.

976
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,280
It's not a safe product.

977
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,580
Coming in over the transom this morning from

978
00:31:48,580 --> 00:31:50,380
your gal with the manhands.

979
00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:52,620
Is Welker the manhands lady?

980
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Yeah, Welker.

981
00:31:54,020 --> 00:31:54,420
Welker.

982
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:55,400
Welker the manhands.

983
00:31:56,580 --> 00:32:00,400
President Trump called her personally this morning, called

984
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,400
her, and told her to tell America the

985
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,800
following.

986
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Just hours ago, President Trump called me to

987
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,480
tell me he is, quote, pissed off with

988
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,260
Russia's President Putin, and threatened to impose secondary

989
00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:15,800
tariffs on Russia's oil.

990
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,260
Quote, if Russia and I are unable to

991
00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:20,380
make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in

992
00:32:20,380 --> 00:32:22,940
Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia's

993
00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:24,960
fault, which it might not be, but if

994
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320
I think it was Russia's fault, I am

995
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,140
going to put secondary tariffs on all oil

996
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:31,300
coming out of Russia.

997
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,540
Mr. Trump said 25% tariffs on Russian

998
00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:36,820
oil could happen any moment, and told me

999
00:32:36,820 --> 00:32:39,140
he plans to speak with President Putin this

1000
00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:39,440
week.

1001
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:41,680
The president told me, quote, I was very

1002
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,840
angry, pissed off, when Putin started getting into

1003
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,100
the- She likes saying that.

1004
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,980
She likes saying it.

1005
00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:47,420
She likes saying it.

1006
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:49,380
This is the only, because it's a quote,

1007
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,100
she would never say it normally on TV

1008
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,280
because she's not like a cussing Democrat in

1009
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,440
essence.

1010
00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:55,880
She's a Democrat, but not a cusser.

1011
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,380
No, no, no, no.

1012
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,240
But now this gives her the excuse to

1013
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:58,380
do it.

1014
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,020
It's like shithole countries.

1015
00:33:00,140 --> 00:33:00,640
It's perfect.

1016
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,020
I get to say pissed off.

1017
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,820
The president told me, quote, I was very

1018
00:33:03,820 --> 00:33:06,940
angry, pissed off, when Putin started getting into

1019
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:10,540
Zelensky's credibility and started talking about new leadership

1020
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:11,220
in Ukraine.

1021
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,040
Wait, but wait, there's more.

1022
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,760
On Iran, the president said he's also considering

1023
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,620
secondary tariffs if Iran doesn't agree to a

1024
00:33:18,620 --> 00:33:19,340
nuclear deal.

1025
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:21,620
Quote, if they don't make a deal, there

1026
00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:24,580
will be bombing, and it will be bombing

1027
00:33:24,580 --> 00:33:26,540
the likes of which they have never seen

1028
00:33:26,540 --> 00:33:27,020
before.

1029
00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:30,960
Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again.

1030
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,340
Woo, baby.

1031
00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:35,500
President, mad, mad.

1032
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:35,860
He's mad.

1033
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,420
Pissed off.

1034
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:36,760
You know why?

1035
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:37,980
He looks hungry, man.

1036
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,020
He's lost a lot of weight.

1037
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:40,860
Have you noticed this?

1038
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:42,460
No, I have not.

1039
00:33:42,580 --> 00:33:45,180
Oh, he must have dropped 25 pounds at

1040
00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:45,600
least.

1041
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,120
At least.

1042
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,320
I wonder why.

1043
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,440
Bobby.

1044
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:52,520
Bobby is probably right.

1045
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,400
Bobby is like, hey, Donald, Mr. President, you're

1046
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,000
a fat slob.

1047
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,720
This is not good.

1048
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,440
The president sets the tone.

1049
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,920
So everybody's cussing.

1050
00:34:02,060 --> 00:34:02,520
That's good.

1051
00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:03,820
Good work, Mr. President.

1052
00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:05,120
You got everyone cussing.

1053
00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:06,000
You got that part.

1054
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:07,040
You got everyone cussing.

1055
00:34:07,139 --> 00:34:08,960
You got Welker is saying pissed off.

1056
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,440
That's good.

1057
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,040
That's good.

1058
00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:11,780
You got everyone shaking in their boots.

1059
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,460
You're going to bomb the Iranians like they've

1060
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:14,659
never been bombed before.

1061
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,199
But you got to get America healthy again.

1062
00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:18,580
Aha.

1063
00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:20,420
You got to get America healthy again.

1064
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:22,000
You've got to lose some weight.

1065
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,020
You know, you might be right.

1066
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,440
Because Trump, I think, is amenable to the

1067
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,760
idea that he sets the moral tone.

1068
00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:31,300
And it's more than a moral tone.

1069
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:32,960
I mean, it's a moral tone, basically.

1070
00:34:33,179 --> 00:34:36,199
But it's also the, you know, like JFK

1071
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,239
is the one who initiated the five-mile

1072
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,639
hike.

1073
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,000
Everyone should go on a five-mile hike.

1074
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,060
And everyone's going on five-mile hikes for

1075
00:34:44,060 --> 00:34:44,540
some reason.

1076
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:45,400
Yes.

1077
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:53,360
And the president looks happier for it.

1078
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:54,739
His face looks good.

1079
00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:56,440
It looks, you know, he probably has much

1080
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:56,890
less inflammation.

1081
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,060
He looks good.

1082
00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:00,680
Yes.

1083
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,300
His triglutarates or whatever, I'm sure they're all

1084
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:06,580
down.

1085
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:07,840
Triglutarate.

1086
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,180
His numbers are down.

1087
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,760
And America loves this president.

1088
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:12,560
This is CNN.

1089
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,460
He's basically more popular than he was at

1090
00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:16,920
any point in term number one.

1091
00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:19,160
And more popular than he was when he

1092
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,720
won election back in November of 2024.

1093
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:22,480
What are we talking about?

1094
00:35:22,540 --> 00:35:24,020
Isn't that favorable rating right now comes in

1095
00:35:24,020 --> 00:35:24,780
at minus four points?

1096
00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:26,900
Compare that to where he was when he

1097
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:29,120
won in November of 2024 when he was

1098
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,240
at minus seven points.

1099
00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:32,840
Or March of 2017 when he was at

1100
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,980
minus ten points.

1101
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,580
So when you compare Trump against himself, he's

1102
00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:38,980
actually closer to the apex than he is

1103
00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:40,140
to the bottom of the trough.

1104
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:42,240
And of course, that's so important because Donald

1105
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,140
Trump, historically speaking, has had his numbers underestimated.

1106
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,740
This is great.

1107
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:47,520
I love it.

1108
00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:48,500
He's closer to the apex.

1109
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:49,940
This guy comes on CNN all the time

1110
00:35:49,940 --> 00:35:52,580
and he's jumping around and he's going nuts.

1111
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:53,460
He's good.

1112
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,680
He's closer to the apex than the bottom

1113
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,560
of the trough.

1114
00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:57,740
Nice.

1115
00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:00,160
So here's an ABC report on the H

1116
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,060
since we're talking about Bobby, the HHS cuts,

1117
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,860
job cuts.

1118
00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:05,700
So I'll play this report.

1119
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:07,960
And then after that, out of the horse's

1120
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,460
mouth himself on the kid Cuomo show.

1121
00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:11,400
So listen to this report.

1122
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,660
Tonight, the secretary of Health and Human Services,

1123
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,300
Robert F.

1124
00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:17,200
Kennedy Jr., announcing a massive overhaul.

1125
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,880
The agency that oversees America's health, supervises Medicare

1126
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,620
and Medicaid and monitors food and drug safety.

1127
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:27,240
It includes cutting 20000 people from the department,

1128
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,020
a quarter of its workforce.

1129
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:32,260
This will be a painful period for HHS

1130
00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:34,960
as we downsize from eighty two thousand full

1131
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,100
time employees to around sixty two thousand.

1132
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,540
I want to promise you now that we're

1133
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:42,100
going to do more with less.

1134
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,760
But experts, including Dr. Richard Besser, former.

1135
00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:46,520
Did you notice there was a little edit

1136
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:46,880
there?

1137
00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:49,380
Director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

1138
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:52,120
insists you can't cut that many jobs without

1139
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,280
people in America, quote, suffering.

1140
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,440
I worry that in this drive to cut

1141
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,060
positions and save money, critical programs that impact

1142
00:37:03,060 --> 00:37:05,060
on people's lives are going to be cut

1143
00:37:05,060 --> 00:37:05,560
as well.

1144
00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:07,560
Kennedy also plans to consolidate.

1145
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:08,140
Hold on a second.

1146
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,760
The critical programs aren't the problem.

1147
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,220
No, no.

1148
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,100
But this is this is what is affecting

1149
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:14,960
people's lives.

1150
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,340
They're talking about 20000 people laid off.

1151
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,300
This is a jobs program.

1152
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:21,200
That's kind of what's in all this.

1153
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,620
No, you're correct.

1154
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:24,520
It's a form of welfare.

1155
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,400
What the media has been doing, the M5

1156
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,540
has been continuously getting people on who are

1157
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:33,400
who are, if not outright saying it, insinuating

1158
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,660
your Medicare is going to get cut.

1159
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,220
Your Medicaid is going to get cut.

1160
00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:39,060
Your Social Security hit.

1161
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,480
You might as well kiss your check.

1162
00:37:40,620 --> 00:37:40,900
Goodbye.

1163
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,940
Trump's in town.

1164
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,900
It's must scratch a Tesla.

1165
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,240
Critical programs that impact on people's lives are

1166
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:48,280
going to be cut as well.

1167
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Kennedy also plans to consolidate agencies within HHS.

1168
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
We're going to eliminate an entire alphabet soup

1169
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,860
of departments and agencies while preserving their core

1170
00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:01,280
functions by merging them into a new organization

1171
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,720
called the Administration for a Healthy America or

1172
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:05,140
AHA.

1173
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:09,260
The FDA will lose 3500 employees and the

1174
00:38:09,260 --> 00:38:11,060
CDC will lose 2400.

1175
00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:13,760
That agency also narrowing its scope to focus

1176
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,380
on preparing for and responding to epidemics and

1177
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:17,000
outbreaks.

1178
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,680
For decades, the agency has handled so much

1179
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,480
more monitoring nationwide health trends, including chronic diseases,

1180
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,780
firearm injuries and overdose deaths.

1181
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,740
So this is all just negative spin, all

1182
00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:29,720
negative spin.

1183
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,700
And they've even cut out the part where

1184
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:33,620
he says the following on the Kid Cuomo

1185
00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:34,040
show.

1186
00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:35,360
We're not going to cut services.

1187
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:36,700
We're not going to cut Medicaid.

1188
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,260
We're not going to cut Medicare.

1189
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:39,780
We're going to continue.

1190
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,240
We're going to provide services, but more efficiently.

1191
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,460
Thanks to Elon.

1192
00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:47,140
And by the way, what Elon did with

1193
00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:49,640
our agency is going to help our agency.

1194
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,680
So I'm very grateful to him for me.

1195
00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:53,340
He came in for the first time with

1196
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:55,040
a real org chart for the agency.

1197
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,160
The agency org chart, when I arrived, was

1198
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,180
incomprehensible.

1199
00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:01,340
There was no chain of command.

1200
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,940
There were people operating in all these different

1201
00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:05,520
silos and fiefdoms.

1202
00:39:06,020 --> 00:39:09,120
And they were so territorial and so self

1203
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,580
-serving.

1204
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,720
They were selling patient information to each other.

1205
00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:16,600
So I tried to get to CMS patient

1206
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,280
information, which belongs to the American people and

1207
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,380
belongs to HHS.

1208
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,540
And the sub-agencies said we have to

1209
00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:25,360
buy it from them.

1210
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,220
And it doesn't make any sense.

1211
00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:29,280
There are sub-agencies that refuse to give

1212
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,140
us patient data.

1213
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,160
This is depersonalized data.

1214
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,360
We need to make American healthy again.

1215
00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:39,640
What Elon is doing is he's using AI

1216
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120
to improve health, to improve efficiency, to improve

1217
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,680
delivery.

1218
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:47,380
He had a bunch of geniuses come over

1219
00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:49,720
to the department, create an org chart that

1220
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:50,780
worked, and consolidate.

1221
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,520
We have many divisions that are doing the

1222
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,480
exact same thing.

1223
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:57,680
We need to consolidate them and give them

1224
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,660
a sense of mission.

1225
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:02,420
To invite them to participate in making our

1226
00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:03,560
country healthier again.

1227
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,740
And I think that's why we're getting a

1228
00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:12,720
very, very strong enthusiastic reaction from people within

1229
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:13,180
the agency.

1230
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:14,320
Yeah.

1231
00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:17,280
Well, so they didn't really tell you all

1232
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:17,640
that.

1233
00:40:17,740 --> 00:40:20,300
You had to go to Newsmax to get

1234
00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:21,040
that information.

1235
00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:22,280
That wasn't Newsmax.

1236
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:23,960
That was Newsnation.

1237
00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:25,040
Oh, I'm sorry.

1238
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,220
It's right next to it on channel 735.

1239
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,280
Yeah, it's a completely different operation.

1240
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,280
Newsnation is done by the Chicago Tribune.

1241
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:37,100
Newsmax is done by some right wingers.

1242
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:38,660
But I think they still have the same

1243
00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:39,560
amount of viewership.

1244
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,280
I'm just guessing.

1245
00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:41,280
Yeah, none.

1246
00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:41,720
Yeah.

1247
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,100
So what I thought was a very interesting

1248
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,760
piece, and it showed that it was good

1249
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,300
because you really, I've been monitoring since Friday.

1250
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:57,200
Not a single M5M, like an MSNBC, CNN,

1251
00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,460
or any of these outfits have used any

1252
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:02,200
clips to say these guys, they suck, they're

1253
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,680
no good.

1254
00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:06,020
And that was the executive DOJ team on

1255
00:41:06,020 --> 00:41:06,620
Brett Baier.

1256
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:07,920
Did you have a chance to watch that?

1257
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,300
That was dynamite.

1258
00:41:09,580 --> 00:41:11,240
I have a couple of short clips if

1259
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:11,920
you want to hear some.

1260
00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:12,980
I'd love to.

1261
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,820
I mean, I have to say that this

1262
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:18,640
is another example of Musk's real talent.

1263
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,060
Yeah.

1264
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:21,480
Which is picking guys like this.

1265
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:21,920
Yes.

1266
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,740
He just had a bunch of heavy hitters.

1267
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
He had like the co-founder of Airbnb,

1268
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200
a billionaire, you know, one guy's CFO for

1269
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,020
five public companies or something.

1270
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,180
All these, yeah, heavy hitters.

1271
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,980
And they're all sitting there like, oh, yeah,

1272
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:37,120
well, this is what we do.

1273
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,060
And did you notice the milieu in so

1274
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:43,380
far as at least two of them on

1275
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:46,500
the group talked just like Musk?

1276
00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:46,840
Oh, yeah.

1277
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:52,920
That fast patter and kind of this weird

1278
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,100
milieu style that's peculiar to that group.

1279
00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:59,860
Well, I hear they all go out back

1280
00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:01,480
and smoke cigars from time to time.

1281
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,240
I can't divulge where I heard that from,

1282
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,380
but I believe that to be true.

1283
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,340
I wouldn't be surprised.

1284
00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:05,760
Yeah.

1285
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,280
Of course.

1286
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:06,860
It's what you do.

1287
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,420
Hey, boys.

1288
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,260
Let's crack a Cohiba.

1289
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,240
We routinely encounter wastes of a billion dollars

1290
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:15,580
or more.

1291
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,720
Casually.

1292
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,940
You know, for example, like the simple survey

1293
00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:26,540
that was a 10 question survey that you

1294
00:42:26,540 --> 00:42:28,360
could do with SurveyMonkey cost about $10,000.

1295
00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:32,500
The government was being charged almost a billion

1296
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:33,100
dollars for that.

1297
00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:34,280
For just a survey?

1298
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,460
Yeah.

1299
00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:36,520
A billion dollars for a simple online survey.

1300
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:37,740
Do you like the National Park?

1301
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,700
And then there appears to be no feedback

1302
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:41,000
loop for what will be done with that

1303
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,240
survey.

1304
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:42,700
So the survey would just go to nothing.

1305
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:43,380
It was like insane.

1306
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Now, later in there, one of his lieutenants

1307
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,980
said, well, it was 860 million, which I

1308
00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:53,920
thought was that's not quite a billion dollars.

1309
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,280
So that was a little reckless.

1310
00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:57,500
Well, if you listen to him carefully, I

1311
00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:58,400
listen to that again.

1312
00:42:58,500 --> 00:42:59,160
Musk says almost.

1313
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,160
Yeah, I know.

1314
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:00,960
Yeah, I know.

1315
00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:01,960
Almost a billion.

1316
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,140
That's almost a billion.

1317
00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:03,660
Almost a billion.

1318
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,060
Well, that's a little over half a million.

1319
00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:07,100
By his calculations, I mean, the guy's worth

1320
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:08,020
300 billion.

1321
00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:09,960
So it's like almost a billion, not quite.

1322
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,320
Oh, I dropped a billion.

1323
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:12,140
Whatever.

1324
00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:13,160
Who cares?

1325
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,200
So here is the big social security fraud,

1326
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,860
which rings very true.

1327
00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:21,360
The two improvements that we're trying to make

1328
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,820
to social security are helping people that legitimately

1329
00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:28,600
get benefits, protect them from fraud that they

1330
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,240
experience every day on a routine basis.

1331
00:43:31,420 --> 00:43:33,440
And also make the experience better.

1332
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,460
And I'll give you one example.

1333
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:38,400
This is one of those milieu guys.

1334
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,120
This was the guy sitting next to her.

1335
00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:42,400
At social security, one of the first things

1336
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,480
we learned is that they get phone calls

1337
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,640
every day of people trying to change direct

1338
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,360
deposit information.

1339
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:49,420
So when you want to change your bank

1340
00:43:49,420 --> 00:43:50,940
account, you can call social security.

1341
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:54,200
We learned 40% of the phone calls

1342
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,680
that they get are from fraudsters.

1343
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,000
40%?

1344
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:57,660
That's right.

1345
00:43:58,340 --> 00:43:59,040
Almost half.

1346
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,420
Yes, and they steal people's social security is

1347
00:44:02,420 --> 00:44:02,960
what happens.

1348
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:04,160
They call in.

1349
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:07,140
They claim to be a retiree.

1350
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,620
And they convince the social security person on

1351
00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:14,180
the phone to change where the money is

1352
00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:14,460
flowing.

1353
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,820
It actually goes to some fraudster.

1354
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,460
This is happening all day, every day.

1355
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,080
And then somebody doesn't receive their social security

1356
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,920
is because of all the fraud loopholes in

1357
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,020
the social security system.

1358
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:28,180
Now, I want to believe this.

1359
00:44:28,860 --> 00:44:31,300
But I know that Tina just recently changed

1360
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,040
her social security bank information.

1361
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,120
And she could not make a phone call.

1362
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,160
So maybe she hadn't tried it previously, of

1363
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,380
course.

1364
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:40,120
And she had to do it online.

1365
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,620
And they said it would take two months,

1366
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,020
which seems like a long time.

1367
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,840
But if you indeed can call in, then

1368
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,160
I'm sure that's probably true.

1369
00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:52,160
So let's go back to HH.

1370
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,620
Yeah, we're getting fraudsters on the phone.

1371
00:44:55,620 --> 00:44:58,660
This is a situation that, you know, why

1372
00:44:58,660 --> 00:45:00,060
don't we get to the heart of this?

1373
00:45:00,580 --> 00:45:02,180
You can complain about this.

1374
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:02,660
Oh, yeah.

1375
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,400
These fraudsters are calling this way and that

1376
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:05,500
way.

1377
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,440
All these phone scams, whether they're fraudsters stealing

1378
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,420
somebody's social security or they're trying to get

1379
00:45:12,420 --> 00:45:14,820
me to buy some dumb thing that doesn't

1380
00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:17,720
exist or get my bank account number.

1381
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,660
I just don't get it why we can't

1382
00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:22,360
put a stop to this once and for

1383
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:22,660
all.

1384
00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:24,300
Oh, I can tell you.

1385
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:25,400
I know, I know.

1386
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,580
This and that.

1387
00:45:26,740 --> 00:45:29,020
There's a system the way it's set up.

1388
00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:29,380
No, no, no.

1389
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:30,580
You don't know.

1390
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:32,700
You can jump all over me and say

1391
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:33,840
I know, but you don't know.

1392
00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:34,460
You know nothing.

1393
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:36,780
I know something.

1394
00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:37,760
Well, you know a little.

1395
00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:40,080
What I was going to say is what

1396
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,440
will come out of Musk's mouth will be

1397
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,040
there's no other way.

1398
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,020
We all have to have a digital ID.

1399
00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:49,480
Oh, well, that doesn't surprise me you'd say

1400
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:49,840
that.

1401
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,480
Or at least an X account.

1402
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,880
If everybody gets an X account, we'll make

1403
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,960
sure that you'll never be defrauded again.

1404
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,240
That's I don't see any other way to

1405
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:00,460
do it.

1406
00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:01,980
You can clone phone numbers.

1407
00:46:02,140 --> 00:46:03,820
So that's easy online.

1408
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,200
That's the problem right there.

1409
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,720
That's the cloning phone numbers is easy.

1410
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,720
You just said it.

1411
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,220
Yeah, but that should not be the case.

1412
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,180
You shouldn't have to have a digital ID.

1413
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,420
You should be.

1414
00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:18,700
It should be impossible to clone phone numbers.

1415
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,800
That's the kicker.

1416
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,720
You're going to get a digital ID.

1417
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,640
It's just it's not going to help.

1418
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:26,820
No, but I have a digital ID and

1419
00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:28,400
there's some fraudster will call me up with

1420
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,140
a phony digital ID or whatever.

1421
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,380
Doesn't make any difference.

1422
00:46:31,460 --> 00:46:32,980
They're going to they're going to clone a

1423
00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:34,460
phone number they don't have.

1424
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:35,860
The next thing you know, they're going to

1425
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:37,300
be trying to scam me.

1426
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:37,960
How about this?

1427
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:40,020
You just have to show up in person

1428
00:46:40,020 --> 00:46:42,100
at your office and you get cash.

1429
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:43,520
Nobody will do that.

1430
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,320
I'm telling you, they got to do something.

1431
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:49,500
The phone system at at writ large.

1432
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,440
Let's use that term.

1433
00:46:50,580 --> 00:46:50,860
There you go.

1434
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,500
Writ large.

1435
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,260
The phone system itself is flawed.

1436
00:46:54,660 --> 00:46:57,040
Yeah, but so but the Internet's any better.

1437
00:46:57,820 --> 00:46:58,640
A web browser.

1438
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,400
I'm working.

1439
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,820
I'm worried about the phone right now.

1440
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,740
OK, well, you don't you don't even use

1441
00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:05,160
a phone.

1442
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:08,700
Well, that's beside the point.

1443
00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:10,900
OK, let's go to HHS.

1444
00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:13,120
Another example at NIH is today they have

1445
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,400
27 different centers.

1446
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,440
They got created over time by Congress and

1447
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,740
they're typically by disease state or body system.

1448
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:21,760
There's 700 different IT systems today at NIH.

1449
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,640
700 different IT software systems.

1450
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,000
They can't speak to each other.

1451
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:26,980
So they don't talk to one.

1452
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,400
They have 27 different CIOs.

1453
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:31,380
And so when you think about making great

1454
00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:33,820
medical discoveries, you have to connect the data.

1455
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,220
Time out.

1456
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Time out.

1457
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,860
You see 27 different chief information officers.

1458
00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:38,580
Correct.

1459
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,020
Correct.

1460
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,840
And most of them are non-technical.

1461
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:41,940
There's a lot there.

1462
00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:43,400
There's a lot of opportunity.

1463
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,140
It will make science better, not worse.

1464
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,340
All right.

1465
00:47:47,260 --> 00:47:49,900
They had similar complaints about the IRS.

1466
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,380
Brad mentioned 27 CIOs.

1467
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,820
If you had kept going with Brad, he'd

1468
00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:56,080
probably talk about the communications office.

1469
00:47:56,180 --> 00:48:00,340
You've got 40 distinct communications offices in HHS.

1470
00:48:00,620 --> 00:48:01,520
I love that.

1471
00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:02,980
Communications offices.

1472
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,540
That's marketing departments.

1473
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:09,360
That's wasteful.

1474
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:10,000
40?

1475
00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:10,880
Yeah.

1476
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,560
And that's not unusual, by the way, multiple

1477
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,860
offices like that.

1478
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,860
It's not making anyone healthy.

1479
00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:17,500
This is not about the employees.

1480
00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:20,100
There's many, many hardworking, well-meaning people who

1481
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:21,100
took these jobs.

1482
00:48:21,180 --> 00:48:22,300
These jobs were out there.

1483
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:22,960
They applied for them.

1484
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,400
They took them.

1485
00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:24,220
They're doing what's there.

1486
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,660
It's just that they're duplicating the effort of

1487
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:28,040
40 offices.

1488
00:48:28,260 --> 00:48:28,840
So you've got that.

1489
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,240
You've got overstaffing.

1490
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,680
A good example of overstaffing would be the

1491
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,040
IRS has got 1,400 people who are

1492
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,680
dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones.

1493
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,520
So if you join the IRS, you get

1494
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,800
a laptop and a cell phone, you're provisioned.

1495
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,360
So if each of those IRS officers or

1496
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,600
employees provisioned two employees per day, you could

1497
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,560
provision the entire IRS in a little more

1498
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,020
than a month.

1499
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:53,640
Yeah.

1500
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,280
That's always great.

1501
00:48:59,420 --> 00:48:59,940
That's great.

1502
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:01,900
And then this is one that I would

1503
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:03,400
look at in my own company when we

1504
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,800
had 700 employees.

1505
00:49:05,020 --> 00:49:06,020
This is an easy one.

1506
00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:07,500
And just the one that is in my

1507
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:08,680
head right now, which is a fairly mundane

1508
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,860
one, but I think is very illustrative, is

1509
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:11,460
credit cards.

1510
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:12,940
Oh, yeah.

1511
00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:16,420
There are in the federal government around 4

1512
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:19,740
.6 million credit cards for around 2.3

1513
00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:21,060
to 2.4 million employees.

1514
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,820
This doesn't make sense.

1515
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,360
Right.

1516
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:26,220
And so one of the things all the

1517
00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:28,480
teams have worked on is we've worked with

1518
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,340
the agencies and said, do you need all

1519
00:49:31,340 --> 00:49:32,040
of these credit cards?

1520
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:33,060
Are they being used?

1521
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,340
Can you tell us physically where they are?

1522
00:49:35,340 --> 00:49:37,000
I hope they're getting frequent flyers.

1523
00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:40,660
Actually, on a different note, the rewards program

1524
00:49:40,660 --> 00:49:42,440
the federal government has is actually not very

1525
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:42,760
good.

1526
00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:44,100
That's a whole other...

1527
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:44,780
It's a negotiation.

1528
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,620
Yeah, exactly.

1529
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,740
But so far, the teams have worked together,

1530
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,780
and they've reduced it from 4.6 million

1531
00:49:49,780 --> 00:49:52,120
to 4.3 million.

1532
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,620
So we're taking it easy.

1533
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:59,060
But clearly, there should not be more credit

1534
00:49:59,060 --> 00:50:00,480
cards than there are people.

1535
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,040
Oh, man.

1536
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,320
Think New Ideas, that was the company I

1537
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,360
mentioned with 700 people.

1538
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,280
We had one guy with one credit card

1539
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,400
doing all the travel.

1540
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:17,280
And we started noticing that his wife had

1541
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,740
nice jewelry, and they had all kinds of

1542
00:50:21,740 --> 00:50:25,240
cool gadgets at home, brand new vacuum cleaners.

1543
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,660
And turns out, he was taking all of

1544
00:50:27,660 --> 00:50:29,860
the rewards points and cashing them in for

1545
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:30,340
himself.

1546
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:32,580
It was a classic.

1547
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:33,640
Oh, yeah.

1548
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,460
I think that happens everywhere.

1549
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,940
I bet it's happening in government.

1550
00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:39,600
They're guffawing about the rewards program.

1551
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,200
I'll bet you there's lots of people like,

1552
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:43,980
oops, oh, boy, I was taking those points,

1553
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,580
getting free flights everywhere.

1554
00:50:46,580 --> 00:50:47,060
That's what you do.

1555
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,560
I think that's what you would do.

1556
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,380
If you had the opportunity, you have this

1557
00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:52,800
card, you're centralized something or others, or you're

1558
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,020
doing a lot of charging and reward points

1559
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:58,600
are building up, not for the company, but

1560
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,580
for you personally.

1561
00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:00,440
For you, yes.

1562
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,240
Yeah.

1563
00:51:01,460 --> 00:51:02,280
What would you do?

1564
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,320
What would anyone do?

1565
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:05,860
And here's my final pitch for digital ID.

1566
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:07,540
The minute you pop out of the womb,

1567
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:07,940
people.

1568
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,120
The ways that the government has defrauded is

1569
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,580
that the computer systems don't talk to each

1570
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:11,800
other.

1571
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,860
So if the computer systems don't talk to

1572
00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:17,940
each other, then you can exploit that gap.

1573
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:20,860
And fraudsters exploit that gap to take advantage.

1574
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,520
For example, there were over $300 million of

1575
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,420
small business administration loans that has been given

1576
00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:30,020
out to people under the age of 11.

1577
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,100
Well, actually, to add to this, $300 million

1578
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,840
under the age of 11 and over $300

1579
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,940
million to over the age of 120.

1580
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,360
Definitely.

1581
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:39,140
Small business loans, correct.

1582
00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:39,420
Yes.

1583
00:51:39,820 --> 00:51:41,660
The oldest American is 114.

1584
00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:43,520
So it's safe to say if their age

1585
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,820
is 115 or above, they're fake.

1586
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:49,160
Or they should be in the Guinness Book

1587
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:49,700
of World Records.

1588
00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:53,340
And we should not be giving out loans

1589
00:51:53,340 --> 00:51:53,800
to babies.

1590
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,040
So the youngest recipient of a small business

1591
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,460
administration loan is a nine-month-old, which

1592
00:52:01,460 --> 00:52:03,380
is a very, very precious baby we're talking

1593
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:03,700
about here.

1594
00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:06,260
So obviously, it was just fraudulent.

1595
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,720
And they do terrible things.

1596
00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:10,600
They actually will see that a kid's been

1597
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:10,880
born.

1598
00:52:11,180 --> 00:52:13,020
They will steal that kid's social security number

1599
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:15,180
and then take out a loan and leave

1600
00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:16,840
that kid with a bad credit rating.

1601
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:18,960
There was literally a baby.

1602
00:52:19,460 --> 00:52:20,900
The terrible things are being done is what

1603
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:21,320
we're saying.

1604
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,720
I'm telling you.

1605
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,580
It's either that or a tattooed barcode.

1606
00:52:25,740 --> 00:52:27,320
They got to come up with some ideas

1607
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,800
here.

1608
00:52:28,820 --> 00:52:29,940
It's not going to fly.

1609
00:52:31,660 --> 00:52:32,140
Barcodes.

1610
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:32,620
Yeah.

1611
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,460
And then this will be the final one.

1612
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,760
Because, of course, what Elon is doing is

1613
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,380
he's destroying the government.

1614
00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:43,100
He's destroying everything.

1615
00:52:43,420 --> 00:52:45,920
He's going to take away your social security,

1616
00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:47,140
President Elon.

1617
00:52:47,380 --> 00:52:49,620
Let's go protest at that Tesla store.

1618
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:52,900
People are organizing protests across the country against

1619
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:55,160
Elon Musk's role in the federal government.

1620
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Several protests took place today in the suburbs

1621
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,300
and in Chicago.

1622
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:03,660
WGN's Angelica Sanchez reports on today's demonstration near

1623
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:04,380
the mag mile.

1624
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,920
Get your Tesla off the road.

1625
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,040
Elon Musk is set to go.

1626
00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:12,240
Outside the Tesla showroom on Chicago's Rush Street.

1627
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:14,860
I'm really upset about what's going on with

1628
00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:18,380
the government and Elon Musk's hand in it.

1629
00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:22,260
Protesters urge Tesla vehicle and stock owners to

1630
00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:22,520
sell.

1631
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:23,880
Sell your car.

1632
00:53:24,180 --> 00:53:27,380
I'm very concerned that someone who was not

1633
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:29,860
elected to the federal government has this much

1634
00:53:29,860 --> 00:53:30,260
power.

1635
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,280
I think it's important that we all show

1636
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,560
up and say something.

1637
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,940
Saturday marks a global day of action in

1638
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:38,900
the Tesla takedown movement with demonstrations planned outside

1639
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:42,360
Tesla dealerships across the country against Elon Musk

1640
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,820
and his role in the Department of Government

1641
00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:44,420
Efficiency.

1642
00:53:44,420 --> 00:53:47,880
Seven of those demonstrations are Chicagoland locations.

1643
00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:49,800
He does not speak for Congress.

1644
00:53:50,380 --> 00:53:54,700
And yet it seems like institutions and the

1645
00:53:54,700 --> 00:54:00,400
administration more broadly are acquiescing to these demands.

1646
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,800
Fans of Musk are vowing to counter protest

1647
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,980
the movement and some showed up to defend

1648
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:06,260
the billionaire in some cities.

1649
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,620
Musk is pushing to improve the image of

1650
00:54:08,620 --> 00:54:08,940
Doge.

1651
00:54:09,260 --> 00:54:10,960
In a Thursday interview with Fox News, he

1652
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,100
stated he is being careful and compassionate with

1653
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:14,660
this overhaul of the federal government.

1654
00:54:15,020 --> 00:54:17,320
Even as criticism has been mounting over his

1655
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,440
previous posts on X and emails demanding information

1656
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,560
from federal workers.

1657
00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:26,340
So at 12 noon, many of these protests

1658
00:54:26,340 --> 00:54:27,380
just stopped.

1659
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,500
Just stopped.

1660
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,380
The people left.

1661
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,420
Why, you ask?

1662
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:34,920
Why?

1663
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:36,080
Because they were hired.

1664
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,820
They were only there for four hours.

1665
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,600
There was no overtime.

1666
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:40,520
No overtime.

1667
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:40,780
No overtime.

1668
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:42,940
And I have a copy here of the

1669
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:44,260
chant sheet.

1670
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:47,440
I shall give you a few of the

1671
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,560
chants that the Indivisible Organization handed out to

1672
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:51,960
everybody.

1673
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,320
Elon Musk, go to Mars.

1674
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,120
We don't want your swastikas.

1675
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,360
Elon Musk is unelected.

1676
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,180
Democracy must be protected.

1677
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,000
The people united will never be defeated.

1678
00:55:05,180 --> 00:55:06,340
That doesn't even rhyme.

1679
00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:07,080
What is that?

1680
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,200
That's a bad one.

1681
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,320
That's no good.

1682
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,240
Hey, hey.

1683
00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:11,240
Ho, ho.

1684
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,680
President Musk has got to go.

1685
00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:18,420
Or we will not cooperate with your techno

1686
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:19,600
-fascist state.

1687
00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:22,240
And two more.

1688
00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:24,600
Public workers work for us.

1689
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,740
Can't say that for Elon Musk.

1690
00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:30,560
And my favorite.

1691
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:32,380
Democrats, grow a spine.

1692
00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:34,840
Now is the time to draw the line.

1693
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:41,340
What I find fascinating is, almost walking distance

1694
00:55:41,340 --> 00:55:43,300
from my house here, is one of the

1695
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:45,900
regional Tesla repair centers.

1696
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:52,480
And on the streets, there's probably 50 Teslas

1697
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,120
all around, just surrounding that.

1698
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,780
There's no protests around here.

1699
00:55:56,980 --> 00:56:00,260
Nobody in Berkeley, which is loaded with Teslas,

1700
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,980
is getting their cars swastikas or anything.

1701
00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:06,820
There's nobody in California, at least northern California.

1702
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,160
Nobody's...

1703
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,240
This isn't happening.

1704
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,280
Well, have you ever heard the term, don't

1705
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,480
piss in your own nest?

1706
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,320
They're all going out of state.

1707
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:15,920
Apparently.

1708
00:56:16,340 --> 00:56:16,600
Yeah.

1709
00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:17,480
Yeah.

1710
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,200
So, it's just political...

1711
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,240
It's pathetic political theater, is all that it

1712
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:24,560
is.

1713
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,080
And then you got Chuck Schumer yelling like,

1714
00:56:27,260 --> 00:56:31,300
we're going to drag President Trump's ratings down.

1715
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,500
Oh, wow.

1716
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,400
Schumer.

1717
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:33,500
Schumer.

1718
00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:34,260
Wow.

1719
00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:35,300
Wow.

1720
00:56:35,740 --> 00:56:38,660
That guy got lucky with the Myanmar earthquake,

1721
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,860
which sucked up all the news.

1722
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,900
Yeah, you got to wonder if that was

1723
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:43,920
the earthquake machine.

1724
00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:46,220
You know, I hate to say it.

1725
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,760
Yes.

1726
00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:50,860
That's the first thing I thought.

1727
00:56:51,020 --> 00:56:53,260
Me too, because that was a doozy, man.

1728
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,280
Because I've been to Bangkok, and I've been

1729
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,460
to, well, right underneath Myanmar, which they used

1730
00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:00,100
to call Burma.

1731
00:57:01,460 --> 00:57:03,380
Yeah, but that's 600 miles away.

1732
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:04,520
I know.

1733
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,840
That's a massive distance.

1734
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,360
And you see the rooftop pool.

1735
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:09,960
Yeah.

1736
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,160
Where all the water's coming off the side.

1737
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:14,440
And by the time it hits the street,

1738
00:57:14,620 --> 00:57:16,900
they had a, there's one video floating around

1739
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:18,980
where, because people were talking about it over

1740
00:57:18,980 --> 00:57:20,880
dinner, about, well, you know, water coming down,

1741
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:21,700
it's just like rain.

1742
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,160
But no.

1743
00:57:22,220 --> 00:57:22,800
No way.

1744
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,720
It hits the street like a monsoon.

1745
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:27,320
It's not like a monsoon.

1746
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,020
It's like a tidal wave.

1747
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:31,200
It just whacks the street and just wipes

1748
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,080
everybody out.

1749
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,820
Have you seen the video from atop that

1750
00:57:33,820 --> 00:57:34,100
pool?

1751
00:57:34,740 --> 00:57:36,380
Yeah, with sloshing around.

1752
00:57:36,980 --> 00:57:40,780
And the floating stuff is going over the

1753
00:57:40,780 --> 00:57:41,100
side.

1754
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:43,180
I thought, because I saw that video on

1755
00:57:43,180 --> 00:57:44,560
X, and I'm like, oh, man, is someone

1756
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,000
going to get sloshed right over?

1757
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,060
I mean, sad, but that would have been

1758
00:57:48,060 --> 00:57:48,540
awesome.

1759
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,760
What do you mean by awesome?

1760
00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:55,600
But, I mean, and those apartment buildings that

1761
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,100
were under construction coming straight down, almost like

1762
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:58,840
the Twin Towers.

1763
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,380
It's interesting.

1764
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,460
It kind of reminded me of that.

1765
00:58:00,460 --> 00:58:03,180
It literally collapsed unto itself.

1766
00:58:03,860 --> 00:58:06,020
But that is a, now, is that a

1767
00:58:06,020 --> 00:58:08,600
known fault line from Burma down to Bangkok?

1768
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,840
I'd never heard of that.

1769
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,320
I don't know what that, it hasn't been

1770
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,760
explained yet, but I do have a couple

1771
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,120
of clips.

1772
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:13,980
I'll catch up to it.

1773
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:14,420
All right.

1774
00:58:14,540 --> 00:58:16,340
This is BBC, of course, and you might

1775
00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:17,460
as well use your voice.

1776
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,680
And now time for the BBC World Service.

1777
00:58:21,580 --> 00:58:23,280
Yeah, this is an earthquake story.

1778
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:24,880
Okay, from the BBC World Service.

1779
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,560
Oh, by the way, this is the only

1780
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,500
good news.

1781
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:31,920
This is funny because they were just tons

1782
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,860
of material on this earthquake.

1783
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,300
But this was the kind of the good

1784
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:37,780
news story I thought was cute.

1785
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,320
Oh, nice.

1786
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,540
And now, good news from BBC World Service.

1787
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,560
The death toll from the earthquake in Myanmar

1788
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,400
is already up to 1,600 people.

1789
00:58:47,540 --> 00:58:48,660
This is your good news?

1790
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,960
It becomes good news.

1791
00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:51,780
It gets better, okay.

1792
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:54,400
And that number is expected to rise quite

1793
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,680
sharply, probably, as more information comes out.

1794
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,380
It is hard to get a clear picture

1795
00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:02,600
of what's happening in the worst-hit areas,

1796
00:59:02,660 --> 00:59:03,920
and there are a number of reasons for

1797
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,120
that.

1798
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:05,420
There is a civil war.

1799
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,600
Communications are, for the large part, down.

1800
00:59:08,780 --> 00:59:10,880
Occasionally, as you'll hear, we do get some

1801
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,680
voice notes out.

1802
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,080
The ability of journalists to do their job

1803
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,440
is also an issue.

1804
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,340
Oh, no.

1805
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,160
Reporters Without Borders says reporters there face the

1806
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,320
risk of torture, arrest, or murder.

1807
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,240
So, obviously, very cautious in what they say.

1808
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,920
Mandalay is the hardest-hit city in Myanmar.

1809
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,100
And in neighboring Thailand, 11 people are known

1810
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:33,420
to have died, and at least 50 construction

1811
00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:34,500
workers are still missing.

1812
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:36,820
That's because they were actually working on a

1813
00:59:36,820 --> 00:59:38,140
building, so it wasn't secure.

1814
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,080
So far, great news.

1815
00:59:40,180 --> 00:59:41,140
I'm very happy with this.

1816
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,460
Hey, just play the clip.

1817
00:59:43,060 --> 00:59:43,580
Collapsed.

1818
00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:45,820
But there was some good news, and this

1819
00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:47,020
is a remarkable bit of tape.

1820
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,180
What a way to start a life.

1821
00:59:48,460 --> 00:59:51,500
A Thai woman went into labor just as

1822
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:54,540
the earthquake hit, and both she and the

1823
00:59:54,540 --> 00:59:55,460
baby survived.

1824
00:59:55,580 --> 00:59:56,600
She described what happened.

1825
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,100
Luckily, I was on the fifth floor.

1826
00:59:59,660 --> 01:00:02,080
The medical staff were holding both my arms

1827
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,260
as we made our way down the stairs.

1828
01:00:04,820 --> 01:00:06,600
The doctor kept saying, it's all right.

1829
01:00:06,980 --> 01:00:09,540
The hospital staff did very well in evacuating

1830
01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:09,840
us.

1831
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,920
They did their best.

1832
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,880
I was telling my baby, don't come yet.

1833
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,260
But the pain kept growing and growing.

1834
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:18,500
Then I was put on a hospital bed

1835
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:20,360
and was surrounded by a lot of medical

1836
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,120
staff, where I just gave birth right there

1837
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,620
and then.

1838
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,480
It was all a shock to me, too.

1839
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,700
Once my baby was born, the ground stopped

1840
01:00:29,700 --> 01:00:30,080
shaking.

1841
01:00:30,660 --> 01:00:31,580
I felt great.

1842
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,640
I saw my child, and the earthquake stopped.

1843
01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:40,660
Wow.

1844
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:41,820
That is great.

1845
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,220
Thank you, BBC World Service.

1846
01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:44,060
That's phenomenal.

1847
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,400
That's what we call human interest.

1848
01:00:46,580 --> 01:00:47,080
That's what we call it.

1849
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,100
That was a good story.

1850
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,200
It was the baby that caused the earthquake.

1851
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:51,540
That's the way you have to conclude.

1852
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,600
I got it.

1853
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,080
Once the baby was there, the earthquake stopped.

1854
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:55,420
Perfect.

1855
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,160
Boom.

1856
01:00:56,340 --> 01:00:56,460
Done.

1857
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:57,780
So here's part two.

1858
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:58,620
Lucky baby.

1859
01:00:59,040 --> 01:00:59,600
Happy mom.

1860
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Well, the first emergency response teams have arrived

1861
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,620
in Myanmar now, and the U.S. military

1862
01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:04,720
has arrived in Myanmar.

1863
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,460
The U.N. is trying to coordinate much

1864
01:01:06,460 --> 01:01:07,200
of that effort.

1865
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,020
Tom Andrews is the U.N. special rapporteur

1866
01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:13,040
on the human rights situation in Myanmar.

1867
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,480
He's actually currently in Bangkok.

1868
01:01:15,860 --> 01:01:18,920
Having just got back from the Thai-Myanmar

1869
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,580
border, there he met people from the National

1870
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:23,880
Unity Government in Exile.

1871
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,920
That's the group that was set up after

1872
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,780
the coup in 2021, trying to replace the

1873
01:01:28,780 --> 01:01:29,760
military regime.

1874
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,480
So on the basis of what he heard

1875
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,180
down on the border, he gave me the

1876
01:01:33,180 --> 01:01:35,040
latest information on what's happening.

1877
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,140
The U.N. has operations on the ground.

1878
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:39,720
Pledges are coming in.

1879
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,200
The United Nations has a relief fund operation

1880
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,860
right now that's in place.

1881
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,660
The ASEAN network of ASEAN countries are making

1882
01:01:48,660 --> 01:01:51,880
an appeal and putting its emergency operations into

1883
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,440
play.

1884
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:56,100
There are various operations that are in place

1885
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:57,940
and that are trying to gear up as

1886
01:01:57,940 --> 01:01:58,820
quickly as possible.

1887
01:01:58,820 --> 01:02:01,720
The question is, will that aid be able

1888
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,400
to get where it needs to go?

1889
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:06,680
Will the military junta put up blockades of

1890
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,500
it going to areas that it just doesn't

1891
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,080
want it to go, those opposition areas, resistance

1892
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:11,500
areas?

1893
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,660
We know that every crisis that we've seen,

1894
01:02:14,740 --> 01:02:17,380
every natural disaster that we've seen in recent

1895
01:02:17,380 --> 01:02:19,000
years, they have blocked aid.

1896
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,520
They've created very significant problems in getting aid

1897
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,480
and assistance to where it needs to go.

1898
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:26,980
I am hoping that that will not be

1899
01:02:26,980 --> 01:02:27,440
the case.

1900
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,600
But my assumption is that it will be.

1901
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,020
Oh, man.

1902
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,680
Get back to lucky, baby, happy mom.

1903
01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:36,380
That's the end of it.

1904
01:02:36,460 --> 01:02:37,120
I don't have any...

1905
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:37,740
That's a...

1906
01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:38,980
I think I have an earthquake story.

1907
01:02:39,460 --> 01:02:40,620
Lucky, baby, happy mom.

1908
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:42,400
Love you long time.

1909
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Um, let me see.

1910
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,900
Yes, I do have a France 24 clip

1911
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:51,980
which explains a little bit more about the

1912
01:02:51,980 --> 01:02:52,420
aid.

1913
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,420
This was the moment a skyscraper under construction

1914
01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:57,460
came tumbling down in Bangkok.

1915
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,860
Dozens are thought to be trapped under the

1916
01:03:01,860 --> 01:03:02,180
rubble.

1917
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,260
The 7.7 magnitude quake toppled a crane

1918
01:03:06,260 --> 01:03:08,380
from the top of the building which collapsed

1919
01:03:08,380 --> 01:03:09,180
in seconds.

1920
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:12,700
In these pictures, water from a rooftop swimming

1921
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:15,140
pool can be seen cascading over the side

1922
01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:16,060
of a high rise.

1923
01:03:16,420 --> 01:03:19,140
The tremor sent office workers pouring into the

1924
01:03:19,140 --> 01:03:21,000
streets in search of safety.

1925
01:03:21,260 --> 01:03:24,000
The earthquake's epicentre was near Myanmar's second city,

1926
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:26,540
Mandalay, not long after it was followed by

1927
01:03:26,540 --> 01:03:28,920
a 6.4 magnitude aftershock.

1928
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,020
In Myanmar, where the extent of the damage

1929
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:33,500
is starting to emerge, a state of emergency

1930
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,540
has been declared and the country's military rulers

1931
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:38,520
have made a rare appeal for aid.

1932
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:41,760
Lines of injured people were filmed waiting for

1933
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,120
hospital treatment...

1934
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:43,220
Hold on a second.

1935
01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:44,800
I think ABC had the aid clip.

1936
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,080
Hold on.

1937
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,680
A day after that destructive 7.7 magnitude

1938
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,620
earthquake rocked Southeast Asia, rescuers working around the

1939
01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:55,520
clock to search for survivors still buried under

1940
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,560
the rubble.

1941
01:03:57,460 --> 01:04:00,800
In Bangkok, this 34-storey building that was

1942
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,480
still under construction collapsing, sending people running for

1943
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:05,060
their lives.

1944
01:04:05,260 --> 01:04:06,500
There was a lot of screaming and panicking

1945
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:08,080
which obviously made it a lot worse.

1946
01:04:08,300 --> 01:04:11,060
Jack Brown's dash cam video capturing the moment.

1947
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:13,420
And it was just horrifying to see that

1948
01:04:13,420 --> 01:04:13,900
destruction.

1949
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,600
Drone footage shows the scope of the damage.

1950
01:04:17,020 --> 01:04:19,260
Garrett Breer from Washington state was in a

1951
01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:21,380
nearby mall with his wife when they witnessed

1952
01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:22,480
the moment it crumbled.

1953
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,080
Immediately we were just covered with dust and

1954
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,140
debris and we couldn't see.

1955
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,040
And there were thousands of people just in

1956
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,000
panic running away from the building.

1957
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,600
The epicenter of the quake was in Mandalay,

1958
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:36,820
Myanmar, more than 600 miles from Bangkok.

1959
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,180
Buildings collapsed.

1960
01:04:38,540 --> 01:04:39,680
Roads torn apart.

1961
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,980
A media host in the war-torn country

1962
01:04:41,980 --> 01:04:44,340
describing it as one of the strongest earthquakes

1963
01:04:44,340 --> 01:04:45,360
in his lifetime.

1964
01:04:45,580 --> 01:04:47,880
It's getting stronger and intense.

1965
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:49,860
So I got a realization, oh, the earthquake

1966
01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:52,100
is really happening right now in Myanmar.

1967
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:55,320
Footage aired by Myanmar's state-run broadcaster shows

1968
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,220
the destruction of the historic Mandalay Palace in

1969
01:04:58,220 --> 01:04:59,740
the country's second largest city.

1970
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,380
The situation in Mandalay is really bad right

1971
01:05:03,380 --> 01:05:03,680
now.

1972
01:05:04,060 --> 01:05:07,940
The clock tower near Mandalay Monastery collapsed and

1973
01:05:07,940 --> 01:05:08,700
was damaged.

1974
01:05:09,060 --> 01:05:11,740
Rescue teams from China arriving to assist with

1975
01:05:11,740 --> 01:05:13,120
search and rescue operations.

1976
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,480
India and Russia have also sent resources.

1977
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,080
President Trump has vowed to send aid.

1978
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,980
There you go.

1979
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,460
So what's the BBC guy talking about?

1980
01:05:21,620 --> 01:05:22,080
There's aid.

1981
01:05:22,180 --> 01:05:22,960
There's aid coming.

1982
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,720
It's not getting in.

1983
01:05:25,740 --> 01:05:27,940
I think the BBC's got this correct.

1984
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,660
You know, the funny thing about that 600

1985
01:05:30,660 --> 01:05:31,420
miles?

1986
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:31,940
Yeah.

1987
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,000
It says there's only 450 miles to L

1988
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,840
.A. from here.

1989
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,100
Most of the quakes in California, typically...

1990
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:41,540
Yeah, you don't feel them, though, do you?

1991
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:42,780
No, never.

1992
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:43,280
Never.

1993
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,340
That's what I was going to get to.

1994
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,800
But it wasn't a 7.4, whatever that

1995
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,520
is, by the way.

1996
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,400
We've had big quakes, not necessarily that big

1997
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,660
recently, but there's been quakes, I think the

1998
01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:57,440
big one in San Francisco was 8.6

1999
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:58,500
or something along those lines.

2000
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,080
But, of course, these numbers don't mean anything

2001
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,940
anymore, as you know.

2002
01:06:00,980 --> 01:06:01,560
No, no.

2003
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,980
We don't know if it's Richter scale to

2004
01:06:03,980 --> 01:06:05,200
the momentum scale.

2005
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,300
Now it's bull crap.

2006
01:06:06,500 --> 01:06:09,660
But the point is that, generally speaking, in

2007
01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:11,980
California, where there's a lot of quakes, and

2008
01:06:11,980 --> 01:06:14,980
most of the world, you have maybe a

2009
01:06:14,980 --> 01:06:19,200
90-mile distance where you can still feel

2010
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:19,580
the quake.

2011
01:06:19,620 --> 01:06:21,140
It doesn't have the effect that it does

2012
01:06:21,140 --> 01:06:23,760
where it took place, the epicenter, as they

2013
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,400
like to call it.

2014
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,940
But you can still feel it, and sometimes

2015
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:28,060
it can cause damage.

2016
01:06:29,380 --> 01:06:31,340
90 to 100 miles away.

2017
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,840
600 miles away is unfathomable.

2018
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:36,020
That's crazy.

2019
01:06:36,340 --> 01:06:37,300
It doesn't make any...

2020
01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:38,440
I mean, it's like from...

2021
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,540
It means the entire state of California, maybe

2022
01:06:40,540 --> 01:06:42,220
if an L.A. quake took place, and

2023
01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:44,320
half of Mexico would be affected.

2024
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:45,640
That's why I was asking if there's a

2025
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,420
known fault line there.

2026
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,120
I don't know of one.

2027
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,480
Well, that whole area looks like it's been

2028
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,020
affected by a lot of quakes.

2029
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,660
That's why it's all scattered, like some mass,

2030
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,900
if you look at it on the map.

2031
01:07:01,980 --> 01:07:04,540
Somewhere there's a pot pong, ping pong ball

2032
01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:06,080
joke in there, but I can't quite come

2033
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:06,540
up with it.

2034
01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:09,320
What?

2035
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,880
Well, you've been to pot pong.

2036
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:13,060
Pot pong?

2037
01:07:13,220 --> 01:07:13,600
Pot pong.

2038
01:07:14,540 --> 01:07:15,920
No, I've not been to pot pong.

2039
01:07:15,940 --> 01:07:16,720
You've been to Bangkok.

2040
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,100
No, I've not been to Thailand.

2041
01:07:19,220 --> 01:07:19,820
I've been to Vietnam.

2042
01:07:20,380 --> 01:07:20,900
Oh.

2043
01:07:21,780 --> 01:07:23,240
Oh, pot pong.

2044
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,040
Pot pong in Thailand is where there's a

2045
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,260
club, and there's tricks.

2046
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,580
There's tricks that women do with ping pong

2047
01:07:31,580 --> 01:07:33,380
balls and lit cigarettes.

2048
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:37,700
Target practice part of it?

2049
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:39,440
Yeah, target practice.

2050
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,120
And smoke rings.

2051
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:42,440
And smoke rings, yes.

2052
01:07:42,820 --> 01:07:44,620
I did a documentary there once.

2053
01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:46,680
This is like the donkey act in Tijuana.

2054
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,420
We've actually talked about this on the show

2055
01:07:48,420 --> 01:07:49,700
before many, many years ago.

2056
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,420
Yes, I remember you doing something.

2057
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,040
You were aghast.

2058
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,100
Yes, I was aghast.

2059
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,400
Is it not pot pong?

2060
01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,240
Pot pong.

2061
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,540
I think it was pot pong.

2062
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,340
It's a circus act.

2063
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,280
Go to Turkey.

2064
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:04,980
Pew, pew.

2065
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,420
I'm going to get my Turkey updated.

2066
01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:08,020
I'm going to get back to BBC and

2067
01:08:08,020 --> 01:08:09,240
do some international stuff.

2068
01:08:09,940 --> 01:08:11,560
Because this is going on.

2069
01:08:11,660 --> 01:08:13,380
This Turkey thing is non-trivial.

2070
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,600
And here's what I want you to listen

2071
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,200
for.

2072
01:08:17,620 --> 01:08:20,000
The people are – they threw this guy

2073
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:20,520
in jail.

2074
01:08:20,819 --> 01:08:21,960
This is a political – this is what

2075
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:22,920
they try to do to Trump.

2076
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,979
And the people are protesting the end of

2077
01:08:25,979 --> 01:08:28,040
democracy because they put the guy in jail.

2078
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,800
When Trump – when they tried to put

2079
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,500
Trump in jail, I didn't see anybody protesting

2080
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:34,439
the threat to democracy.

2081
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,939
They only called Trump the threat to democracy.

2082
01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:40,740
It's like reverse.

2083
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,899
Well, it's because the people weren't pissed off

2084
01:08:42,899 --> 01:08:43,439
enough here.

2085
01:08:43,859 --> 01:08:45,060
We have it too good.

2086
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:48,340
Turkey – I mean, the lira is not

2087
01:08:48,340 --> 01:08:50,260
worth the paper it's printed on almost.

2088
01:08:51,020 --> 01:08:53,520
I mean, there's real economic repercussions.

2089
01:08:53,939 --> 01:08:57,800
Erdogan's big mistake was his economic policies.

2090
01:08:59,000 --> 01:08:59,560
Whoopsie.

2091
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,840
Hundreds of thousands of Turkish pro-democracy protesters

2092
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,420
gathered in Istanbul today in support of the

2093
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:08,840
city's jailed mayor, Ekrem İmamoğlu.

2094
01:09:09,140 --> 01:09:11,960
The rally was called by Turkey's main opposition

2095
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,540
party, the CHP, and that's the party that's

2096
01:09:14,540 --> 01:09:18,020
nominated Mr. İmamoğlu as its presidential candidate.

2097
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,500
Well, the BBC's senior international correspondent, Paula Gerin,

2098
01:09:22,819 --> 01:09:24,399
was at the protest today.

2099
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:25,779
So, what was it like?

2100
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,340
It was quite a festive atmosphere.

2101
01:09:28,340 --> 01:09:30,720
There were a lot of people of all

2102
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:31,500
different ages.

2103
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,479
We saw family groups, some people with young

2104
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,359
children, children still in prams.

2105
01:09:36,740 --> 01:09:39,100
We saw some older people who were moving

2106
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:40,240
with some difficulty.

2107
01:09:41,020 --> 01:09:42,680
One or two people had even brought a

2108
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,580
family dog.

2109
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,960
There were lots of people who were carrying

2110
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,380
posters of the jailed mayor.

2111
01:09:48,899 --> 01:09:51,840
And this was a daylight rally in a

2112
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,140
bright, sunny day.

2113
01:09:53,140 --> 01:09:55,640
So, quite a different atmosphere to the rallies

2114
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,280
earlier this week, the nighttime rallies that we

2115
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,220
reported on on Monday and Tuesday.

2116
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,840
But the demands were very much the same.

2117
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,360
People told us they were coming to demand

2118
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,540
the release of the mayor.

2119
01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:09,860
They said they would keep protesting until that

2120
01:10:09,860 --> 01:10:10,320
happens.

2121
01:10:10,460 --> 01:10:11,960
Well, that could be a very long time.

2122
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,400
In reality, he could be in jail for

2123
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,200
several years.

2124
01:10:15,820 --> 01:10:17,840
Many said that they had come to defend

2125
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,300
freedom of speech, human rights.

2126
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:22,120
One young man who was there with his

2127
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,420
brother told us that he had come to

2128
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:27,540
defend democracy before it was too late.

2129
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,600
He said, if we stand by and don't

2130
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,760
act, then we will lose everything.

2131
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,860
And there was a consistent message again from

2132
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:38,820
the opposition leader saying that, accusing the government

2133
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:42,220
of trying to intimidate the young people.

2134
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,340
He spoke of the large numbers of young

2135
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:46,980
people who had been arrested at the demonstrations.

2136
01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:49,360
He said this was an attempt to try

2137
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,780
and silence them, to create fear.

2138
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,280
But he said it wouldn't work.

2139
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,120
Now, two questions.

2140
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,040
Maybe they're in your next two clips.

2141
01:10:57,220 --> 01:11:01,560
One, does the BBC pronounce Turkey as Turkey,

2142
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:01,800
eh?

2143
01:11:02,340 --> 01:11:03,240
No, they don't.

2144
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:04,900
You've pointed this out before.

2145
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:07,520
And the other one, do we actually know

2146
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,340
if the accusations against this guy are true?

2147
01:11:11,460 --> 01:11:13,280
Nobody goes into it.

2148
01:11:13,780 --> 01:11:14,540
Why not?

2149
01:11:14,540 --> 01:11:15,380
It's just accusations.

2150
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:17,860
And it's like, well, OK, what did he

2151
01:11:17,860 --> 01:11:18,080
do?

2152
01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:21,060
It seems unlikely to be true.

2153
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:21,380
Yeah.

2154
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:21,860
All right.

2155
01:11:22,180 --> 01:11:24,120
Protests have been going on for 10 days

2156
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,360
now, ever since Mr. Imamoglu's arrest.

2157
01:11:26,660 --> 01:11:28,680
And they've been met with a repressive government

2158
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,840
response that's been sharply condemned by rights groups.

2159
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,200
Our senior international correspondent, Orla Gerin, is in

2160
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,780
Istanbul for us.

2161
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,560
It was certainly a massive demonstration.

2162
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,100
And you got that sense when you arrived

2163
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:44,320
because it took us a very long time

2164
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,120
to enter the plaza where the rally was

2165
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,520
being held because there were simply so many

2166
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,600
people trying to get through the entrances.

2167
01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:55,160
And worth pointing out, I saw something today

2168
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,800
I have not seen before at a demonstration.

2169
01:11:58,340 --> 01:12:00,840
There was a long line of what appeared

2170
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,400
to us to be closed-circuit TV cameras.

2171
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,100
And these were trained on every entrance.

2172
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,380
So it seemed to us as if the

2173
01:12:08,380 --> 01:12:10,640
faces of all of those who were coming

2174
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,680
through to attend the protest were actually being

2175
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,240
recorded by the authorities, presumably for use in

2176
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,600
the future to identify people who've been at

2177
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:20,340
the demonstrations.

2178
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,780
The demands were very consistent.

2179
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,360
The same kind of message we heard earlier

2180
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,320
during the week on Monday and Tuesday at

2181
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,240
the large nighttime demonstrations.

2182
01:12:29,780 --> 01:12:32,000
People were calling for the freeing of the

2183
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,940
mayor, saying they would keep protesting as long

2184
01:12:34,940 --> 01:12:36,320
as it would take to get him out

2185
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:36,820
of jail.

2186
01:12:37,260 --> 01:12:39,180
Now, that could mean a very long fight.

2187
01:12:39,340 --> 01:12:40,980
The reality is he could be in prison

2188
01:12:40,980 --> 01:12:42,080
for several years.

2189
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,080
People were demanding freedom of expression.

2190
01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:47,780
People were demanding protection for human rights.

2191
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,880
One young man said to us, look, I've

2192
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,820
come to try to defend democracy here before

2193
01:12:52,820 --> 01:12:53,900
it's just too late.

2194
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,480
This is filler.

2195
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:00,960
So they have this, the idea of having

2196
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,540
all these cameras makes sense.

2197
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,180
You have to take, the key to success

2198
01:13:06,180 --> 01:13:07,700
here is you have to paste on a

2199
01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:09,780
couple of fake eyeballs on your forehead.

2200
01:13:11,780 --> 01:13:13,400
That's the key to success.

2201
01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:15,780
Also for job interviews, I'm told.

2202
01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:18,080
It's very, it's the key to success.

2203
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,360
Some fake, you can do stuff to your

2204
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,980
face that would be, that would confuse the

2205
01:13:24,980 --> 01:13:25,940
AI system.

2206
01:13:25,940 --> 01:13:28,140
The BBC is giving us nothing.

2207
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,240
They're just doing color commentary.

2208
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,760
There's no depth to this reporting.

2209
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:35,800
That's a good point.

2210
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:37,000
Here's the last of it.

2211
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,200
You mentioned there were CCTV cameras there.

2212
01:13:40,620 --> 01:13:42,920
And as we know, the Turkish authority have

2213
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,780
already been cracking down on protesters and journalists

2214
01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:47,020
in recent days.

2215
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,980
Can you give us an update on that?

2216
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,840
Oh, they're talking about themselves.

2217
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:51,560
Oh, OK.

2218
01:13:51,700 --> 01:13:53,280
Yes, it's very dangerous for us.

2219
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:54,760
We can't go into Bangkok.

2220
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,140
It's very into Myanmar.

2221
01:13:56,140 --> 01:13:57,120
It's very dangerous.

2222
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:57,860
We can't do it.

2223
01:13:58,020 --> 01:13:58,700
It's dangerous.

2224
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,540
We're in Turkey.

2225
01:13:59,980 --> 01:14:00,420
Turkeyye.

2226
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,820
It's so dangerous.

2227
01:14:01,940 --> 01:14:03,040
They never say Turkeyye.

2228
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:03,940
Let's get this straight.

2229
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:06,100
Well, there's certainly a great deal of fear.

2230
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,280
And we heard that from demonstrators today.

2231
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:10,740
Several people said they were afraid of being

2232
01:14:10,740 --> 01:14:11,220
arrested.

2233
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,720
Some told us they had friends who had

2234
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,920
been picked up in these dawn raids that

2235
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,480
have been going on over the last 10

2236
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:17,920
days.

2237
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,000
The official figure from the Interior Ministry now

2238
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,340
is that 1,900 people have been detained

2239
01:14:24,340 --> 01:14:26,300
just in the past 10 days.

2240
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,440
We know that among those there are seven

2241
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:28,960
journalists.

2242
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,140
And we've had the first indictment handed down

2243
01:14:32,140 --> 01:14:35,620
by public prosecutors here against some of those

2244
01:14:35,620 --> 01:14:36,320
who were arrested.

2245
01:14:36,460 --> 01:14:38,260
And all of these people arrested at the

2246
01:14:38,260 --> 01:14:38,860
protests.

2247
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,520
And the prosecutor is asking for jail terms

2248
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,940
of between six months and three years.

2249
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:48,980
Now, press freedom groups and media organizations here

2250
01:14:48,980 --> 01:14:51,920
are pointing out that among the journalists arrested

2251
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,020
were people who were simply doing their job.

2252
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,900
There were photographers who were taking photographs that

2253
01:14:56,900 --> 01:14:59,080
have been seen around the world and become

2254
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,440
famous around the world.

2255
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,520
And human rights organizations are saying that the

2256
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,680
legitimate right to freedom of expression to gather

2257
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,640
peacefully to protest against the government's policies.

2258
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,960
There is a major attempt here now, they

2259
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,120
say, to stifle those rights and those freedoms.

2260
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,060
And it didn't begin 10 days ago with

2261
01:15:17,060 --> 01:15:18,920
the arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu.

2262
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,680
It has certainly been a pattern that we've

2263
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,560
observed here over many years now.

2264
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:24,980
More nothing.

2265
01:15:25,300 --> 01:15:26,060
This is a regime change.

2266
01:15:26,140 --> 01:15:27,920
I suspect that we were behind it.

2267
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:29,860
Oh, OK.

2268
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:31,960
That would make sense because I've been I've

2269
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,320
had my quad view on 24-7.

2270
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,020
And there's not there's not even a story

2271
01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:39,060
that we're not even running a story about

2272
01:15:39,060 --> 01:15:39,360
this.

2273
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,200
They're still talking Signal Gate.

2274
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,500
I know they are.

2275
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,200
I know you're right.

2276
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,260
There has not been one single story on

2277
01:15:48,260 --> 01:15:49,940
American media about this.

2278
01:15:50,020 --> 01:15:51,680
And this has been going on for 10

2279
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,100
days and is major.

2280
01:15:53,460 --> 01:15:53,580
Yeah.

2281
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,520
And it's a NATO member, I might point

2282
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:55,740
out.

2283
01:15:55,820 --> 01:15:58,160
It's not just some fly by night operation.

2284
01:15:59,300 --> 01:15:59,620
Right.

2285
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:00,720
It's a NATO member.

2286
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:03,080
Also responsible for the mess in Syria.

2287
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,940
Yeah, this is this is they're out to

2288
01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:06,580
get this guy.

2289
01:16:06,580 --> 01:16:08,840
And where's the where's the Gulen movement?

2290
01:16:09,220 --> 01:16:11,440
Are they are we know their leader died,

2291
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,080
but they didn't just dissolve.

2292
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:15,180
I mean, did anything happen with them?

2293
01:16:15,980 --> 01:16:18,240
No, no reporting on no reporting.

2294
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,780
Well, meanwhile, that's the M5M.

2295
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,940
Now, the T5M, which is so M5M is

2296
01:16:25,940 --> 01:16:26,680
mainstream media.

2297
01:16:26,860 --> 01:16:28,980
T5M is the truth stream media.

2298
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,140
Very annoyed that come up.

2299
01:16:32,180 --> 01:16:33,500
I just made it up.

2300
01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:37,000
Very annoyed this weekend because at least 15

2301
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,640
people are saying there's something here.

2302
01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:39,700
This is going on.

2303
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:40,680
You got to check this out.

2304
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,380
So what I'm going to tell you, even

2305
01:16:45,380 --> 01:16:47,160
Tina's like, oh, there's some going on with

2306
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,000
house and habit.

2307
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,920
What house inhabit house?

2308
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,300
You don't know who a house inhabit is.

2309
01:16:54,380 --> 01:16:57,160
House inhabit, not in a inhabit, but inhabit,

2310
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,840
like inhabit a house, house, inhabit, house, inhabit,

2311
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:01,920
house, inhabit.

2312
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:06,800
This was a mommy blogger who who became

2313
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,460
very successful as a.

2314
01:17:08,860 --> 01:17:09,340
So we have.

2315
01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:11,960
So this is about a mommy blogger.

2316
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:12,860
It gets worse.

2317
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:16,040
Because how can it get worse?

2318
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:18,480
And Tina would often she reads, you know,

2319
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:21,480
stuff like conservative treehouse and house inhabit.

2320
01:17:22,300 --> 01:17:23,780
I don't know any of this.

2321
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,040
Well, that's I never heard of conservative treehouse.

2322
01:17:26,660 --> 01:17:27,620
That's why there's two of us.

2323
01:17:27,660 --> 01:17:29,960
Oh, you don't know Sundance from from conservative

2324
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:30,600
treehouse.

2325
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,480
No, I don't know Sundance either.

2326
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:33,760
Well, I do.

2327
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,760
And I'm listening to the BBC World Service.

2328
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,300
And now we switch over to mommy blogger

2329
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:44,440
house inhabit on the BBC World Service.

2330
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:48,120
But this is Tina's beat, because I can't.

2331
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,240
By the way, that's by the way, I

2332
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:50,100
should compliment you.

2333
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,380
That does sound great.

2334
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:51,980
Thank you.

2335
01:17:52,380 --> 01:17:53,080
Thank you.

2336
01:17:53,180 --> 01:17:55,520
I know you've heard of custom programmed.

2337
01:17:57,300 --> 01:18:01,700
It sounds like an old shortwave radio announcer.

2338
01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:04,020
Well, I used to when I was growing

2339
01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:06,500
up, my my parents, they would have one

2340
01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:08,460
of those alarm clock radios.

2341
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,300
And and so my dad would have this

2342
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:14,760
thing at volume 10 because my parents could

2343
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:15,440
never get up.

2344
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,980
Because I had to be at the bus

2345
01:18:16,980 --> 01:18:19,700
stop at ten past seven to take the

2346
01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:21,600
bus to then get on my hidden bike

2347
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:22,440
to go to school.

2348
01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:23,900
Oh, yes, it was rough.

2349
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:26,380
And that thing would go on and it's

2350
01:18:26,380 --> 01:18:26,860
seven o'clock.

2351
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,380
And it's just blasting the news.

2352
01:18:33,460 --> 01:18:35,680
So it's a trauma from my youth.

2353
01:18:36,020 --> 01:18:36,320
Yes.

2354
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,860
Anyway, so.

2355
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,020
So now I have to go watch 20

2356
01:18:41,020 --> 01:18:42,760
minutes of Ian Carroll.

2357
01:18:43,460 --> 01:18:44,800
Now, you know who that is?

2358
01:18:45,220 --> 01:18:45,520
No.

2359
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:46,400
Yeah, you do.

2360
01:18:46,460 --> 01:18:48,280
He's the guy on X with the long

2361
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,220
hair, with a hoodie.

2362
01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:51,420
And he's always talking like, I don't know.

2363
01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:53,760
He's always got the green screen behind him.

2364
01:18:54,180 --> 01:18:55,400
I like these guys.

2365
01:18:55,420 --> 01:18:56,360
They all have style.

2366
01:18:56,740 --> 01:18:57,460
Looks suspicious.

2367
01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:00,180
And then so he goes on for 20

2368
01:19:00,180 --> 01:19:01,960
minutes talking about Candace Owens.

2369
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,600
Oh, Candace Owens, Candace Owens.

2370
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,040
OK, so then I have to go watch

2371
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,560
Candace Owens for an hour.

2372
01:19:07,340 --> 01:19:09,740
And it's and I'm like, what is going

2373
01:19:09,740 --> 01:19:10,240
on here?

2374
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:14,440
Basically, they keep talking about a blackmail scandal,

2375
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:15,720
a blackmail scandal.

2376
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,040
And that House Inhabit, the mommy blogger, has

2377
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,800
teamed up with that horrible woman from, was

2378
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,240
it New Yorker magazine, who supposedly had a

2379
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,300
sexting scandal with RFK.

2380
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:31,340
And now, well, the Maha movement is under

2381
01:19:31,340 --> 01:19:34,000
threat and RFK can't do anything because he's

2382
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,260
being blackmailed, blackmailed, blackmailed.

2383
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,580
And who is he being blackmailed by?

2384
01:19:38,700 --> 01:19:40,040
Come on, John, you know the answer.

2385
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:41,060
Answer the question.

2386
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:41,340
Go.

2387
01:19:42,060 --> 01:19:42,600
Soros.

2388
01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:43,160
Israel.

2389
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:44,720
No, of course it's Israel.

2390
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:45,800
Oh, Israel.

2391
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:46,900
OK, not Soros.

2392
01:19:47,380 --> 01:19:48,340
Yes, it's Israel.

2393
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,680
That makes nothing but sense on the surface.

2394
01:19:52,060 --> 01:19:54,720
And, you know, he's always been a Zionist

2395
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,720
and he's always been.

2396
01:19:56,780 --> 01:19:57,900
The Kennedys.

2397
01:19:57,980 --> 01:20:00,040
Yeah, the Kennedys, big Zionist.

2398
01:20:00,220 --> 01:20:03,500
And he's always been in for Rabbi Shmuley.

2399
01:20:03,740 --> 01:20:05,680
And I'm just saying, you know.

2400
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,520
And that's what people are concerned with here

2401
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:11,040
in America.

2402
01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:13,940
Rabbi Shmuley?

2403
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:15,780
Long story, brother.

2404
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:17,620
Long story.

2405
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,680
Yes, because you know that that's why they

2406
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,800
don't release the Epstein files is because then

2407
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,440
we find out that the entire U.S.

2408
01:20:24,540 --> 01:20:26,520
government is being blackmailed by the Mossad.

2409
01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:28,180
Hello, where you been?

2410
01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:29,160
That makes nothing but sense.

2411
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,760
You need to read the Mommy Blogger.

2412
01:20:31,580 --> 01:20:32,920
You've got to understand these things.

2413
01:20:33,020 --> 01:20:34,780
I've been listening to the BBC.

2414
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,020
But I think there has been a concerted

2415
01:20:38,020 --> 01:20:38,380
effort.

2416
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,740
And, you know, to me it's all spiritual.

2417
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:42,780
There's dark forces.

2418
01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:44,020
There's good and evil.

2419
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:44,840
Yeah, okay.

2420
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:45,820
I'm just telling you.

2421
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:46,580
Huh?

2422
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:48,140
Look.

2423
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:48,600
Skip ahead.

2424
01:20:49,820 --> 01:20:51,140
We know there's dark forces.

2425
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,200
Don't do that to me.

2426
01:20:52,940 --> 01:20:54,080
Well, you told me I could.

2427
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,020
What do you do?

2428
01:20:55,060 --> 01:20:56,580
Now you tell me I can't?

2429
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,700
No, but you skip ahead is just rude.

2430
01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:02,250
Skip ahead is rude.

2431
01:21:02,270 --> 01:21:02,790
You told me I could.

2432
01:21:02,890 --> 01:21:04,290
I didn't tell you you could go off

2433
01:21:04,290 --> 01:21:04,590
camera.

2434
01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:05,050
You did.

2435
01:21:05,470 --> 01:21:06,430
Off camera?

2436
01:21:06,970 --> 01:21:08,010
Where's the camera?

2437
01:21:08,910 --> 01:21:09,470
Off camera.

2438
01:21:09,470 --> 01:21:10,770
You said I could do that.

2439
01:21:10,930 --> 01:21:12,470
Now you're calling me out.

2440
01:21:12,590 --> 01:21:12,970
No.

2441
01:21:13,850 --> 01:21:14,290
Scammer.

2442
01:21:14,430 --> 01:21:15,510
You can call me out.

2443
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:18,030
You did that on purpose to give me

2444
01:21:18,030 --> 01:21:18,450
grief.

2445
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:19,710
No, you can call me.

2446
01:21:19,950 --> 01:21:21,610
Okay, Kara, but go ahead.

2447
01:21:22,030 --> 01:21:24,150
You can call me out, but you can't

2448
01:21:24,150 --> 01:21:25,290
just say skip ahead.

2449
01:21:25,650 --> 01:21:27,570
That's not nice.

2450
01:21:27,790 --> 01:21:29,390
I think skip ahead's pretty cool.

2451
01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:32,590
And I think you'll agree with me on

2452
01:21:32,590 --> 01:21:32,730
this.

2453
01:21:32,730 --> 01:21:36,830
I believe there is a concerted effort to

2454
01:21:36,830 --> 01:21:42,790
go after influencers, podcasters, mommy bloggers, et cetera,

2455
01:21:42,970 --> 01:21:46,490
to make them very fearful to be called

2456
01:21:46,490 --> 01:21:52,670
out as a Zionist, a Jew lover, whatever.

2457
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:54,430
They call you that all the time.

2458
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:55,170
I don't see you.

2459
01:21:55,290 --> 01:21:57,110
You're not shaking in your boots.

2460
01:21:57,270 --> 01:22:00,410
But that's because we don't rely on clicks.

2461
01:22:00,550 --> 01:22:01,990
We don't rely on views.

2462
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:04,570
We rely on people who care about what

2463
01:22:04,570 --> 01:22:05,410
we're talking about.

2464
01:22:05,690 --> 01:22:08,390
This is a modern version of cancel culture

2465
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:09,130
is what you're saying.

2466
01:22:09,290 --> 01:22:09,630
It's almost reverse.

2467
01:22:09,970 --> 01:22:12,430
It's audience capture is what it is.

2468
01:22:12,810 --> 01:22:15,170
And so they're deathly afraid to be running.

2469
01:22:16,030 --> 01:22:17,490
See, no one cares about us.

2470
01:22:17,570 --> 01:22:18,810
No one knows about us.

2471
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:20,150
That's true.

2472
01:22:20,290 --> 01:22:21,250
Only the people who listen.

2473
01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:22,270
No one else knows.

2474
01:22:22,510 --> 01:22:26,870
Only our dedicated million plus audience, but nobody

2475
01:22:26,870 --> 01:22:28,990
cares about them either except that they're all

2476
01:22:28,990 --> 01:22:29,710
big shots.

2477
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:30,290
It's amazing.

2478
01:22:30,530 --> 01:22:31,590
Well, there you go.

2479
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:35,990
But we'll never matter in mainstream culture.

2480
01:22:36,110 --> 01:22:36,970
We just don't matter.

2481
01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:38,930
Joe Rogan doesn't have me on and say,

2482
01:22:39,050 --> 01:22:40,830
man, that No Agenda show is the best

2483
01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:41,330
thing ever.

2484
01:22:41,530 --> 01:22:41,710
No.

2485
01:22:41,890 --> 01:22:42,290
He doesn't.

2486
01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:44,170
I don't think he's listened to the show

2487
01:22:44,170 --> 01:22:44,510
once.

2488
01:22:44,690 --> 01:22:45,590
You invented podcasting.

2489
01:22:46,230 --> 01:22:47,490
You used to have long hair.

2490
01:22:48,350 --> 01:22:49,750
But that's my point.

2491
01:22:50,230 --> 01:22:55,610
These jamokes, they're all dependent, the T5M, they're

2492
01:22:55,610 --> 01:22:59,890
all dependent upon clicks and views and algos

2493
01:22:59,890 --> 01:23:00,770
and outrage.

2494
01:23:00,770 --> 01:23:04,070
They are literally talking about each other.

2495
01:23:04,250 --> 01:23:04,770
And that rises.

2496
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:05,950
I know.

2497
01:23:06,110 --> 01:23:07,650
We both noticed this.

2498
01:23:07,930 --> 01:23:08,050
Yes.

2499
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:11,750
Oh, Tim Pool's going to talk to Candace

2500
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:13,690
Owens, who's going to talk to Steve Bannon,

2501
01:23:13,850 --> 01:23:14,810
and she's going to be on the Bannon

2502
01:23:14,810 --> 01:23:15,970
show, and then Bannon's going to be on.

2503
01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:17,390
He's going to talk to Pool.

2504
01:23:18,110 --> 01:23:20,730
Then there's the value attainment guys.

2505
01:23:20,890 --> 01:23:21,770
You've got to get on there.

2506
01:23:21,790 --> 01:23:22,190
Yes, yes.

2507
01:23:22,330 --> 01:23:22,690
The value.

2508
01:23:23,070 --> 01:23:24,550
It's the same little group.

2509
01:23:24,910 --> 01:23:25,190
Yes.

2510
01:23:25,550 --> 01:23:27,010
And throw in a little bit of Tucker

2511
01:23:27,010 --> 01:23:27,630
Carlson.

2512
01:23:28,030 --> 01:23:30,450
And Ian, he was even on Rogan.

2513
01:23:30,450 --> 01:23:32,570
So Rogan's getting sucked into this.

2514
01:23:33,190 --> 01:23:35,870
And I think Rogan's gotten a lot of

2515
01:23:35,870 --> 01:23:36,570
pushback.

2516
01:23:37,650 --> 01:23:40,510
Because if you don't call out the genocide

2517
01:23:40,510 --> 01:23:43,970
of Israel on Palestine, then you are clearly

2518
01:23:43,970 --> 01:23:44,770
a Zionist.

2519
01:23:46,190 --> 01:23:48,610
It doesn't matter what war or what death

2520
01:23:48,610 --> 01:23:49,310
you call out.

2521
01:23:49,370 --> 01:23:51,430
If it's not that one, then you're no

2522
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:51,690
good.

2523
01:23:52,570 --> 01:23:55,970
So all this to say you should be

2524
01:23:55,970 --> 01:23:58,450
happy with the best podcasting universe and enjoy

2525
01:23:58,450 --> 01:24:00,930
it for the last three years and nine

2526
01:24:00,930 --> 01:24:01,310
months.

2527
01:24:02,250 --> 01:24:03,650
Because what are you going to do after

2528
01:24:03,650 --> 01:24:04,070
that?

2529
01:24:04,730 --> 01:24:05,550
Candace Owens.

2530
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:07,570
What happened to her?

2531
01:24:08,750 --> 01:24:11,010
She's bigger than ever, I think.

2532
01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:14,250
Because she's only talking about gossip and show

2533
01:24:14,250 --> 01:24:14,690
business.

2534
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:16,590
Blake Lively.

2535
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:18,250
Blake Lively.

2536
01:24:19,070 --> 01:24:19,890
It all deteriorated.

2537
01:24:20,730 --> 01:24:21,550
Blake Lively.

2538
01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:22,950
That's all she talks about.

2539
01:24:23,170 --> 01:24:23,610
She's a psycho.

2540
01:24:24,170 --> 01:24:26,010
That would be our analysis.

2541
01:24:26,150 --> 01:24:27,230
Hey, let's talk about Blake Lively.

2542
01:24:27,230 --> 01:24:28,050
She's a psycho.

2543
01:24:28,190 --> 01:24:28,910
All right, we're done.

2544
01:24:30,990 --> 01:24:37,350
It's like everything deteriorates to celebrity chitchat.

2545
01:24:37,450 --> 01:24:37,730
Always.

2546
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:41,010
Even Alex Jones is tired of it.

2547
01:24:41,950 --> 01:24:44,610
If you can make Alex Jones tired of

2548
01:24:44,610 --> 01:24:46,830
something like this, then you've gone very far.

2549
01:24:48,410 --> 01:24:51,250
So it's just like, oh, man, stop already.

2550
01:24:51,510 --> 01:24:52,070
Stop.

2551
01:24:52,670 --> 01:24:56,030
So I have some thoughts on Canada and

2552
01:24:56,030 --> 01:24:56,470
Carney.

2553
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:58,230
Oh, yes.

2554
01:24:58,490 --> 01:24:59,330
Okay, good.

2555
01:24:59,470 --> 01:25:01,470
I'm interested in Canada and Carney.

2556
01:25:03,290 --> 01:25:06,310
The appointed prime minister.

2557
01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:12,690
And now I feel bad about not getting

2558
01:25:12,690 --> 01:25:14,690
a clip when I heard it the first

2559
01:25:14,690 --> 01:25:16,030
time, because I didn't think much of it.

2560
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:16,990
I said, I don't know, what is he

2561
01:25:16,990 --> 01:25:17,550
talking about?

2562
01:25:18,490 --> 01:25:20,130
Trump's sitting behind his desk.

2563
01:25:20,130 --> 01:25:23,330
He's yakking away about turning Canada the 51st

2564
01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:23,810
state.

2565
01:25:23,930 --> 01:25:26,230
And somebody calls him and says, well, you

2566
01:25:26,230 --> 01:25:28,030
know, there's just be a bunch of Democrats.

2567
01:25:28,190 --> 01:25:29,330
They're going to all vote red.

2568
01:25:29,410 --> 01:25:30,430
I don't know why you want that.

2569
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:31,570
He says, well, I don't know.

2570
01:25:31,670 --> 01:25:33,930
I think they're both parties up there are

2571
01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:34,250
good.

2572
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:36,730
And sometimes he makes a comment.

2573
01:25:36,830 --> 01:25:39,990
He literally says, I think the Liberal Party

2574
01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:42,190
might be the better of the two parties.

2575
01:25:43,050 --> 01:25:43,930
Oh, okay.

2576
01:25:44,270 --> 01:25:46,550
Trump says the Liberal Party might be better

2577
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:46,770
to.

2578
01:25:47,150 --> 01:25:49,430
Meanwhile, he keeps goading Canada.

2579
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:49,970
Yeah.

2580
01:25:50,290 --> 01:25:51,450
And he and.

2581
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:54,650
You know, threatening them with this and that

2582
01:25:54,650 --> 01:25:55,090
and the other.

2583
01:25:55,210 --> 01:25:57,230
And it's turned the Liberal Party into a

2584
01:25:57,230 --> 01:25:57,990
popular party.

2585
01:25:58,450 --> 01:25:58,950
All of a sudden.

2586
01:25:59,010 --> 01:25:59,370
It did.

2587
01:25:59,470 --> 01:26:00,630
I mean, yes, it did.

2588
01:26:00,770 --> 01:26:01,130
It did.

2589
01:26:01,310 --> 01:26:03,490
And now I'm beginning to think this was

2590
01:26:03,490 --> 01:26:04,230
intentional.

2591
01:26:05,070 --> 01:26:05,390
Hmm.

2592
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:07,830
And let's listen to these.

2593
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:08,570
I got three clips.

2594
01:26:08,650 --> 01:26:10,270
This is the start with this.

2595
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:10,850
This is Trump.

2596
01:26:11,130 --> 01:26:11,570
Carney.

2597
01:26:11,810 --> 01:26:12,250
Carney.

2598
01:26:12,770 --> 01:26:13,210
Tariffs.

2599
01:26:13,630 --> 01:26:14,070
NHK.

2600
01:26:14,730 --> 01:26:17,410
U.S. President Donald Trump says he'll slap

2601
01:26:17,410 --> 01:26:21,710
additional tariffs of 25% on imported cars

2602
01:26:21,710 --> 01:26:23,130
from April 3rd.

2603
01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:26,590
One country significantly affected is Canada.

2604
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:29,550
Its new prime minister, Mark Carney, stressed at

2605
01:26:29,550 --> 01:26:32,690
a news conference Thursday he will hit back.

2606
01:26:32,970 --> 01:26:35,810
We will fight the U.S. tariffs with

2607
01:26:35,810 --> 01:26:39,350
retaliatory trade actions of our own that will

2608
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:42,770
have maximum impact in the United States and

2609
01:26:42,770 --> 01:26:44,450
minimum impacts here in Canada.

2610
01:26:45,310 --> 01:26:47,870
Carney said Trump's team requested a phone call

2611
01:26:47,870 --> 01:26:49,730
and he plans to pick up soon.

2612
01:26:50,050 --> 01:26:52,350
Meanwhile, Trump took to social media in the

2613
01:26:52,350 --> 01:26:54,190
middle of the night to lay down a

2614
01:26:54,190 --> 01:26:56,210
warning to Canada and the EU.

2615
01:26:56,590 --> 01:26:59,210
He told them not to work together against

2616
01:26:59,210 --> 01:27:02,250
the U.S. or even heftier duties are

2617
01:27:02,250 --> 01:27:02,870
on the way.

2618
01:27:03,630 --> 01:27:06,270
Trump hopes to boost car production in America

2619
01:27:06,270 --> 01:27:07,930
through import taxes.

2620
01:27:07,930 --> 01:27:09,950
But if the U.S. and other countries

2621
01:27:09,950 --> 01:27:12,790
start a tit-for-tat tariff war, the

2622
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:15,670
global economy looks bound to suffer.

2623
01:27:17,630 --> 01:27:19,710
Interesting that it's April 3rd.

2624
01:27:19,790 --> 01:27:21,910
I mean, April 2nd is Liberation Day.

2625
01:27:22,370 --> 01:27:23,590
What are we doing on April 3rd?

2626
01:27:23,610 --> 01:27:24,650
This is interesting.

2627
01:27:24,850 --> 01:27:26,130
I don't know why this is either.

2628
01:27:26,270 --> 01:27:26,930
I don't get that.

2629
01:27:27,130 --> 01:27:29,990
But this whole idea that this might be

2630
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:32,810
a setup, a plan, a scheme.

2631
01:27:34,490 --> 01:27:36,790
And the reason I'm starting to think this

2632
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:38,690
way is because, first of all, we're not

2633
01:27:38,690 --> 01:27:42,290
moaning and groaning about Carney never getting one

2634
01:27:42,290 --> 01:27:43,270
single vote for anything.

2635
01:27:43,390 --> 01:27:45,350
We're not talking about, oh, he's not elected,

2636
01:27:45,470 --> 01:27:46,130
he's never done anything.

2637
01:27:47,310 --> 01:27:49,530
Carney was brought in from the bank.

2638
01:27:49,810 --> 01:27:50,170
Yes.

2639
01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:52,430
He is a literal banker.

2640
01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:54,050
He's a literal banker.

2641
01:27:54,150 --> 01:27:55,710
He's the head of the Bank of England.

2642
01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:57,850
And then he was the head of the

2643
01:27:57,850 --> 01:27:58,750
Bank of Canada.

2644
01:27:58,750 --> 01:28:03,850
And the Liberal Party kicked Trudeau out, who

2645
01:28:03,850 --> 01:28:06,650
quit, kind of quit, but he was writing

2646
01:28:06,650 --> 01:28:07,170
on the wall.

2647
01:28:07,190 --> 01:28:08,830
Well, we knew there was a blackmail scandal

2648
01:28:08,830 --> 01:28:10,110
going on.

2649
01:28:10,210 --> 01:28:11,250
Well, there's something going on.

2650
01:28:11,550 --> 01:28:13,210
And so they bring Carney in.

2651
01:28:14,110 --> 01:28:16,410
And so Carney's now running the whole place.

2652
01:28:16,530 --> 01:28:18,790
And nobody's making mention of the fact that

2653
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:20,630
this guy, why?

2654
01:28:21,090 --> 01:28:23,610
Why did they put this banker in charge?

2655
01:28:23,710 --> 01:28:25,690
And why, all of a sudden, is the

2656
01:28:25,690 --> 01:28:28,150
Liberal Party becoming popular again?

2657
01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:31,890
He's off the radar.

2658
01:28:32,150 --> 01:28:33,490
You don't even hear from him anymore.

2659
01:28:34,770 --> 01:28:36,470
There's a bunch of studies.

2660
01:28:36,630 --> 01:28:38,230
Oh, no, the Liberals are going to win

2661
01:28:38,230 --> 01:28:40,130
because they're going to have a snap election

2662
01:28:40,130 --> 01:28:42,090
now at the end of April, April 28th,

2663
01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:42,350
I believe.

2664
01:28:43,450 --> 01:28:45,390
And so the snap election, you do these

2665
01:28:45,390 --> 01:28:46,730
things, you can do this in a parliamentary

2666
01:28:46,730 --> 01:28:48,670
system when you think that you can kick

2667
01:28:48,670 --> 01:28:49,150
ass.

2668
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:50,790
Right, that's what you do.

2669
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:52,290
Sometimes it doesn't work out, but most of

2670
01:28:52,290 --> 01:28:52,770
the time it does.

2671
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:53,970
You do a snap, a snapper.

2672
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:55,510
Snap election.

2673
01:28:55,510 --> 01:28:57,770
And then you can take over the place.

2674
01:28:58,330 --> 01:29:01,470
And so they, so Trump is promoting this

2675
01:29:01,470 --> 01:29:05,370
51st state thing and throwing, he's getting Canada,

2676
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:06,950
Canadians pissed off.

2677
01:29:07,150 --> 01:29:09,370
And, and Carney, and Carney is, we're going

2678
01:29:09,370 --> 01:29:10,690
to fight for our country.

2679
01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:11,850
We're not going to take it.

2680
01:29:11,890 --> 01:29:13,090
He's Mr. Strongman.

2681
01:29:13,190 --> 01:29:15,730
It's like a strong man against strong man.

2682
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:20,270
I believe because, and I believe this, and

2683
01:29:20,270 --> 01:29:22,130
I only get this from memes.

2684
01:29:22,130 --> 01:29:25,430
You know, you have to get the information

2685
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:26,070
where you get it.

2686
01:29:26,170 --> 01:29:27,430
You don't know house inhabit.

2687
01:29:27,610 --> 01:29:28,330
I can't believe it.

2688
01:29:28,370 --> 01:29:28,930
You know, Pepe.

2689
01:29:30,370 --> 01:29:31,250
Pepe the frog.

2690
01:29:31,330 --> 01:29:31,530
Yeah.

2691
01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:32,570
You know, Pepe the frog.

2692
01:29:33,090 --> 01:29:33,970
Yeah, of course I do.

2693
01:29:35,790 --> 01:29:38,730
There are memes after memes after memes saying

2694
01:29:38,730 --> 01:29:40,910
don't pass this around, but Carney spent a

2695
01:29:40,910 --> 01:29:42,510
lot of time on Epstein Island.

2696
01:29:42,630 --> 01:29:42,770
No.

2697
01:29:42,930 --> 01:29:43,230
Yeah.

2698
01:29:43,790 --> 01:29:44,190
Yeah.

2699
01:29:44,330 --> 01:29:45,110
There it is.

2700
01:29:45,230 --> 01:29:45,930
We're back.

2701
01:29:46,190 --> 01:29:47,810
We have our own little version of it.

2702
01:29:47,870 --> 01:29:48,230
Nice.

2703
01:29:49,050 --> 01:29:53,390
So I think Carney's got, they got the

2704
01:29:53,390 --> 01:29:54,270
goods on him.

2705
01:29:54,830 --> 01:29:57,370
Oh, Epstein files going to drop after he,

2706
01:29:57,570 --> 01:29:58,630
after the snap election.

2707
01:29:58,990 --> 01:30:03,450
Well, not necessarily or before or never or

2708
01:30:03,450 --> 01:30:05,950
never because you want to hold him.

2709
01:30:06,150 --> 01:30:06,410
Yeah.

2710
01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:07,770
It's the Bunsen burner.

2711
01:30:08,190 --> 01:30:11,590
So this is, this is the leverage we

2712
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:13,370
have over kind of, this is why Trump

2713
01:30:13,370 --> 01:30:15,610
was going on about how the liberal liberals

2714
01:30:15,610 --> 01:30:15,810
are.

2715
01:30:15,970 --> 01:30:16,070
Okay.

2716
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:18,170
This is a great gambit.

2717
01:30:18,450 --> 01:30:20,370
Hey, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark Carney.

2718
01:30:20,590 --> 01:30:21,630
What's that in your mouth?

2719
01:30:22,150 --> 01:30:23,550
What's that in your mouth?

2720
01:30:23,970 --> 01:30:24,570
It's total.

2721
01:30:24,850 --> 01:30:26,670
And then you start, so you get these

2722
01:30:26,670 --> 01:30:28,490
next two clips and it kind of like,

2723
01:30:28,730 --> 01:30:31,530
is this all part of some grand scheme?

2724
01:30:31,650 --> 01:30:32,510
Let's play.

2725
01:30:33,070 --> 01:30:34,410
This will be set up.

2726
01:30:34,890 --> 01:30:37,910
Adam Chapnick, a professor of defense studies at

2727
01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:39,270
Canadian Forces College.

2728
01:30:39,850 --> 01:30:41,950
Since Carney is taking a hard line against

2729
01:30:41,950 --> 01:30:44,970
Trump on the back of rising patriotism among

2730
01:30:44,970 --> 01:30:46,090
his compatriots.

2731
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:49,570
President Trump's threats to make Canada the 51st

2732
01:30:49,570 --> 01:30:52,610
state have unleashed a wave of nationalism and

2733
01:30:52,610 --> 01:30:56,130
patriotism in Canada that we haven't seen in

2734
01:30:56,130 --> 01:30:59,210
years, if not decades in Canada, we're normally

2735
01:30:59,210 --> 01:31:02,150
polite and relatively quiet.

2736
01:31:02,890 --> 01:31:05,590
In this case, however, it is a threat

2737
01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:07,630
to our very being and it's brought now

2738
01:31:07,630 --> 01:31:09,850
to pride that I think has always been

2739
01:31:09,850 --> 01:31:11,770
there, but we don't, we aren't inclined to

2740
01:31:11,770 --> 01:31:13,450
show it in the same way as some

2741
01:31:13,450 --> 01:31:14,410
other countries do.

2742
01:31:15,050 --> 01:31:17,510
And in this case, whether you lean politically

2743
01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:19,230
to the right or to the left, everyone

2744
01:31:19,230 --> 01:31:21,610
seems to agree that we are proud to

2745
01:31:21,610 --> 01:31:22,090
be Canadian.

2746
01:31:22,290 --> 01:31:23,970
We don't want to be citizens of any

2747
01:31:23,970 --> 01:31:24,470
other country.

2748
01:31:24,610 --> 01:31:27,510
As a result of Carney's continued harsh comments

2749
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:30,370
about the Trump, the ruling party's support rate

2750
01:31:30,370 --> 01:31:32,010
has recovered rapidly.

2751
01:31:32,170 --> 01:31:34,850
In a poll of polls by CBC News

2752
01:31:34,850 --> 01:31:37,790
this week, the liberals were more popular than

2753
01:31:37,790 --> 01:31:41,310
the opposition conservatives led by Pierre Poliev.

2754
01:31:41,870 --> 01:31:45,150
Chapnick suggests the election offers a chance for

2755
01:31:45,150 --> 01:31:48,610
whoever is Canada's next leader to turn the

2756
01:31:48,610 --> 01:31:50,490
page with the Trump administration.

2757
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:53,170
I am liking this theory of yours, John.

2758
01:31:54,710 --> 01:31:55,670
I'm liking it too.

2759
01:31:55,850 --> 01:31:57,630
Here we go with this last clip.

2760
01:31:57,790 --> 01:31:59,330
This was the kind of, there's some other

2761
01:31:59,330 --> 01:32:01,430
kicker information in here, which may or may

2762
01:32:01,430 --> 01:32:03,110
not have something to do with the scheme.

2763
01:32:03,470 --> 01:32:05,870
Canada spends less than one and a half

2764
01:32:05,870 --> 01:32:09,490
of its GDP on defense, something Trump has

2765
01:32:09,490 --> 01:32:10,770
strongly criticized.

2766
01:32:11,230 --> 01:32:14,810
It seems highly likely Canada will sharply hike

2767
01:32:14,810 --> 01:32:16,110
its military budget.

2768
01:32:16,610 --> 01:32:19,670
I think Canadians are united in understanding that

2769
01:32:19,670 --> 01:32:21,750
we have to commit more to defense and

2770
01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:23,650
we have to spend more on national defense.

2771
01:32:24,410 --> 01:32:28,030
Both political parties are promising increases to the

2772
01:32:28,030 --> 01:32:28,790
defense budget.

2773
01:32:29,230 --> 01:32:31,550
Whether they are big enough to satisfy the

2774
01:32:31,550 --> 01:32:33,610
United States is not yet clear, but I

2775
01:32:33,610 --> 01:32:36,430
can virtually promise you that Canada will be

2776
01:32:36,430 --> 01:32:39,380
spending significantly more on defense over the next

2777
01:32:39,380 --> 01:32:42,240
five, 10, 15 years.

2778
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,740
Even so, if relations with the U.S.

2779
01:32:45,860 --> 01:32:49,440
remain poor, Canada will seek to strengthen relations

2780
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:52,140
with European allies and other countries.

2781
01:32:53,180 --> 01:32:56,800
From a Canadian point of view, Canada's national

2782
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,640
interests are best served when we work with

2783
01:32:58,640 --> 01:32:59,100
allies.

2784
01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:02,020
So in some ways the challenges with the

2785
01:33:02,020 --> 01:33:05,700
United States might actually bring us closer to

2786
01:33:05,700 --> 01:33:07,860
our European and Asian allies because we will

2787
01:33:07,860 --> 01:33:10,100
need more friends more than we ever had

2788
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:11,200
in the past.

2789
01:33:11,300 --> 01:33:13,100
I think that much of Europe is responding

2790
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:15,780
the same way, that Europe has to get

2791
01:33:15,780 --> 01:33:18,360
more serious about its security because it might

2792
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,000
not be able to rely on the United

2793
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,780
States in the near future.

2794
01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:25,000
So this isn't ideal, not the ideal situation,

2795
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,980
but if something good can come out of

2796
01:33:26,980 --> 01:33:30,780
it by closer cooperation amongst like-minded allies

2797
01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:32,580
in the West, that would be a great

2798
01:33:32,580 --> 01:33:32,800
thing.

2799
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,580
So if I understand what you're saying, the

2800
01:33:36,580 --> 01:33:40,940
real win here is our manufacturing base in

2801
01:33:40,940 --> 01:33:43,620
the United States is going to grow significantly

2802
01:33:43,620 --> 01:33:46,560
because Europe has nowhere to buy all this,

2803
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,720
all this war stuff for at least the

2804
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:49,740
next couple of years.

2805
01:33:50,220 --> 01:33:51,820
Canada has nowhere to buy it.

2806
01:33:51,900 --> 01:33:55,040
Meanwhile, everybody's ramping up their money and we're

2807
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:55,920
going to take it.

2808
01:33:56,300 --> 01:33:57,660
Yeah, exactly.

2809
01:34:00,390 --> 01:34:02,610
We should, uh, we're like North Korea, South

2810
01:34:02,610 --> 01:34:03,130
Korea here.

2811
01:34:03,130 --> 01:34:05,650
We should, uh, we should drop, uh, American

2812
01:34:05,650 --> 01:34:08,650
flags and Kid Rock CDs over, uh, over

2813
01:34:08,650 --> 01:34:09,290
Ottawa.

2814
01:34:12,190 --> 01:34:13,530
We need to help them out.

2815
01:34:13,790 --> 01:34:15,090
Well, there was another, there was another little

2816
01:34:15,090 --> 01:34:17,870
extra bit, uh, on Truth Social.

2817
01:34:18,010 --> 01:34:20,510
The president posted, I just played a round

2818
01:34:20,510 --> 01:34:23,210
of golf with Alexander Stubb, president of Finland.

2819
01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:25,510
And it turns out he's a very good

2820
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:25,830
player.

2821
01:34:25,990 --> 01:34:28,370
We won the men's member guest golf tournament

2822
01:34:28,370 --> 01:34:31,090
at, uh, the Trump International Golf Club in

2823
01:34:31,090 --> 01:34:31,950
Palm Beach County.

2824
01:34:33,230 --> 01:34:35,830
And, um, I look forward to strengthening the

2825
01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:37,890
partnership between the United States and Finland.

2826
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:39,970
And that includes the purchase and development of

2827
01:34:39,970 --> 01:34:42,550
a large number of badly needed icebreakers and

2828
01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:43,290
beautiful ships.

2829
01:34:43,290 --> 01:34:46,470
I hear, uh, now that of course is

2830
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:48,210
on Russia's border.

2831
01:34:48,850 --> 01:34:51,550
Maybe this whole I'm pissed off at Putin.

2832
01:34:51,690 --> 01:34:54,190
Maybe that whole thing is to prolong things

2833
01:34:54,190 --> 01:34:54,750
a little bit.

2834
01:34:54,810 --> 01:34:56,950
Let's let's keep the money train going here.

2835
01:34:58,190 --> 01:35:00,150
That pissed off at Putin thing could be,

2836
01:35:00,150 --> 01:35:02,410
this could be a scheme could be between

2837
01:35:02,410 --> 01:35:03,410
him and Putin.

2838
01:35:03,810 --> 01:35:04,090
Yes.

2839
01:35:04,710 --> 01:35:06,610
Well, the whole, the whole thing that Putin

2840
01:35:06,610 --> 01:35:08,770
is saying, this whole thing we're watching theater.

2841
01:35:08,850 --> 01:35:09,190
Yes.

2842
01:35:09,250 --> 01:35:13,250
This is everything that Canada 51st state, uh,

2843
01:35:13,250 --> 01:35:15,730
this, the late letting this Carney guy who's

2844
01:35:15,730 --> 01:35:17,810
not even, you know, this crazy guy who's

2845
01:35:17,810 --> 01:35:20,370
never gotten a vote in his life, uh,

2846
01:35:20,410 --> 01:35:21,330
run Canada.

2847
01:35:21,330 --> 01:35:23,250
And then we're all be, we're kind of

2848
01:35:23,250 --> 01:35:25,490
like pushing Canada to get pissed off.

2849
01:35:25,570 --> 01:35:27,550
They get so damn mad that they buy

2850
01:35:27,550 --> 01:35:28,290
stuff from us.

2851
01:35:28,290 --> 01:35:31,430
Uh, the whole thing is ridiculous.

2852
01:35:33,170 --> 01:35:35,570
Well, let, let, let me bring in, uh,

2853
01:35:35,570 --> 01:35:37,990
in Putin and Russia and, uh, and Ukraine

2854
01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:38,490
into this.

2855
01:35:38,570 --> 01:35:41,450
Uh, this is from, um, uh, where is

2856
01:35:41,450 --> 01:35:41,690
this?

2857
01:35:41,730 --> 01:35:44,290
This is, uh, I think first post and

2858
01:35:44,290 --> 01:35:46,310
moving to the war in Europe, Russian president,

2859
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:48,010
Vladimir like that, the war in Europe.

2860
01:35:48,110 --> 01:35:49,230
Now it's just, it's not Ukraine.

2861
01:35:49,250 --> 01:35:50,150
It's the war in Europe.

2862
01:35:50,170 --> 01:35:50,610
People.

2863
01:35:50,810 --> 01:35:51,810
It's just the war in Europe.

2864
01:35:52,070 --> 01:35:53,750
And moving to the war in Europe, Russian

2865
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:57,150
president Vladimir Putin has proposed placing Ukraine under

2866
01:35:57,150 --> 01:36:00,270
temporary UN control to pave the way for

2867
01:36:00,270 --> 01:36:03,390
new elections and key peace agreements, claiming that

2868
01:36:03,390 --> 01:36:06,210
president Volodymyr Zelensky's leadership lacks legitimacy.

2869
01:36:06,810 --> 01:36:09,410
Putin insisted bringing in a third party to

2870
01:36:09,410 --> 01:36:12,470
be a viable government that quote unquote, enjoys

2871
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:13,630
the people's trust.

2872
01:36:14,530 --> 01:36:18,030
In principle, of course it would be possible

2873
01:36:18,030 --> 01:36:20,510
under the auspices of the UN with the

2874
01:36:20,510 --> 01:36:23,550
United States, even with European countries and of

2875
01:36:23,550 --> 01:36:25,950
course with our partners and friends to discuss

2876
01:36:25,950 --> 01:36:29,250
the possibility of introducing temporary administration in Ukraine

2877
01:36:29,250 --> 01:36:32,790
for what in order to hold democratic elections,

2878
01:36:33,070 --> 01:36:34,970
in order to bring to power a viable

2879
01:36:34,970 --> 01:36:37,610
government that enjoys the people's trust and then

2880
01:36:37,610 --> 01:36:39,770
begin negotiations with it on a peace treaty.

2881
01:36:40,530 --> 01:36:43,230
However, the Russian leader's proposal has been met

2882
01:36:43,230 --> 01:36:43,750
with skepticism.

2883
01:36:44,510 --> 01:36:47,430
The white house national security council emphasized that

2884
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:50,570
Ukraine's governance is determined by its constitution and

2885
01:36:50,570 --> 01:36:51,190
its people.

2886
01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:53,870
There has been no immediate comment from Ukraine.

2887
01:36:53,870 --> 01:36:58,050
However, president Zelensky has repeatedly rejected any notion,

2888
01:36:58,190 --> 01:37:01,270
questioning his legitimacy and he insists that elections

2889
01:37:01,270 --> 01:37:04,390
are impossible under martial law, which he imposed

2890
01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:07,710
in response to Russia's invasion back in 2022.

2891
01:37:08,290 --> 01:37:11,270
You know, the concept, the idea that this

2892
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:14,610
is we're watching all theater is highly possible

2893
01:37:14,610 --> 01:37:17,270
and probably very likely if you add one

2894
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:20,130
more bid in, remember we have to flood

2895
01:37:20,130 --> 01:37:23,270
the world with American stable coin with dollars.

2896
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:26,010
I'm a dollar dominance through stable coin.

2897
01:37:26,230 --> 01:37:27,810
You can't get around it.

2898
01:37:27,850 --> 01:37:29,790
That is now being said by the president,

2899
01:37:30,030 --> 01:37:33,150
by the secretary of the treasury flood the

2900
01:37:33,150 --> 01:37:34,270
world with stable coin.

2901
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:37,090
This is from the defense and aerospace podcast.

2902
01:37:37,410 --> 01:37:39,830
All the European union members were just advised

2903
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:43,310
to stock 72 hours worth of food and

2904
01:37:43,310 --> 01:37:45,510
shortwave radio and all this type of thing

2905
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:49,570
because of potential catastrophic events to come, including

2906
01:37:49,570 --> 01:37:49,990
war.

2907
01:37:50,170 --> 01:37:51,690
They're getting quite serious here.

2908
01:37:51,690 --> 01:37:54,850
I think they are beyond now the insults

2909
01:37:54,850 --> 01:37:56,350
that's coming their way left and right.

2910
01:37:56,990 --> 01:37:59,730
They are absolutely moving ahead in terms of

2911
01:37:59,730 --> 01:38:01,970
trying to figure out the European defense without

2912
01:38:01,970 --> 01:38:05,470
the United States helping Ukraine without the United

2913
01:38:05,470 --> 01:38:05,930
States.

2914
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:08,390
And so they are putting some meat to

2915
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:10,770
those bones with the idea that not only

2916
01:38:10,770 --> 01:38:13,690
is it important for European security that Ukraine

2917
01:38:13,690 --> 01:38:16,230
is protected, but that this is something that

2918
01:38:16,230 --> 01:38:18,090
they hope will buy themselves a seat at

2919
01:38:18,090 --> 01:38:22,890
the table is the fact that there are

2920
01:38:22,890 --> 01:38:24,830
not going to be sanctions lifted on Russia,

2921
01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:26,970
like Swift, which is one of the demands

2922
01:38:26,970 --> 01:38:29,590
that Russia has levied on everyone if they're

2923
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:31,450
going to agree to this, this, a black

2924
01:38:31,450 --> 01:38:34,670
sea and energy infrastructure ceasefire.

2925
01:38:35,010 --> 01:38:37,170
But to do that, to lift Swift and

2926
01:38:37,170 --> 01:38:40,490
to assist in terms of the agricultural trade

2927
01:38:40,490 --> 01:38:43,190
and banking resources that the Russians are asking

2928
01:38:43,190 --> 01:38:46,270
for the, you, you, the Europeans have got

2929
01:38:46,270 --> 01:38:47,170
to be part of that.

2930
01:38:47,530 --> 01:38:47,970
It's new.

2931
01:38:48,290 --> 01:38:49,350
Swift has done out of Brussels.

2932
01:38:49,610 --> 01:38:50,790
It's not done out of Washington.

2933
01:38:51,170 --> 01:38:53,770
There is a lot happening here and there

2934
01:38:53,770 --> 01:38:56,250
isn't this is us with us or not

2935
01:38:56,250 --> 01:38:56,830
anymore.

2936
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:58,690
If the assumption is that the U.S.

2937
01:38:58,710 --> 01:39:01,310
has walked away every day, something happens to

2938
01:39:01,310 --> 01:39:03,390
make them feel that and to know that.

2939
01:39:03,610 --> 01:39:05,530
And so they're beginning to act along those

2940
01:39:05,530 --> 01:39:05,890
lines.

2941
01:39:06,110 --> 01:39:07,970
There is an energy here and a direction

2942
01:39:07,970 --> 01:39:10,190
here and a drive here and an anger

2943
01:39:10,190 --> 01:39:12,210
here that I haven't seen ever.

2944
01:39:12,430 --> 01:39:14,190
And so it's, it's moving.

2945
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:16,010
I don't see it turning around anytime soon.

2946
01:39:16,150 --> 01:39:18,090
So you freak the people out like you

2947
01:39:18,090 --> 01:39:20,590
better get your shortwave radios and your tuna

2948
01:39:20,590 --> 01:39:24,890
fish can and a flashlight because you know,

2949
01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:26,970
Putin can strike at any minute.

2950
01:39:27,730 --> 01:39:29,170
And so you've got to give us your

2951
01:39:29,170 --> 01:39:29,530
money.

2952
01:39:29,810 --> 01:39:31,510
We need to take your money because it

2953
01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:34,150
is in effect, taking the people's money in

2954
01:39:34,150 --> 01:39:38,290
advance by borrowing and carving out 150 billion

2955
01:39:38,290 --> 01:39:40,890
right off the spot and giving that to

2956
01:39:40,890 --> 01:39:43,990
the contractors, the military contractors, which for the

2957
01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:45,570
foreseeable future is us.

2958
01:39:45,570 --> 01:39:50,370
And then what you want to, they control

2959
01:39:50,370 --> 01:39:50,670
Swift.

2960
01:39:50,770 --> 01:39:53,290
I didn't realize that Brussels controls Swift.

2961
01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:54,830
Well, that's great.

2962
01:39:54,930 --> 01:39:56,330
Here's the meet the new Swift.

2963
01:39:56,630 --> 01:39:57,930
It's called stable coin.

2964
01:39:58,490 --> 01:40:02,510
It's a beautiful stable coin and you can

2965
01:40:02,510 --> 01:40:03,110
trade that.

2966
01:40:03,250 --> 01:40:04,730
It's its own networks.

2967
01:40:04,890 --> 01:40:06,930
It can trade on any network, on any

2968
01:40:06,930 --> 01:40:11,670
blockchain, any layer to a level two system.

2969
01:40:12,730 --> 01:40:14,850
This is a, this could be a very

2970
01:40:14,850 --> 01:40:17,990
big game, big theater.

2971
01:40:18,810 --> 01:40:19,890
Something's up.

2972
01:40:20,210 --> 01:40:23,850
Well, yeah, I think we're a little, little

2973
01:40:23,850 --> 01:40:27,530
deeper than something's up and these pieces are

2974
01:40:27,530 --> 01:40:28,190
coming together.

2975
01:40:28,510 --> 01:40:30,310
I'm not sure how, now I'm not sure

2976
01:40:30,310 --> 01:40:33,270
how Finland fits in, but then out of

2977
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:38,150
the blue, out of the blue, Afghanistan pops

2978
01:40:38,150 --> 01:40:38,550
up.

2979
01:40:39,490 --> 01:40:41,210
Did you catch this?

2980
01:40:41,670 --> 01:40:42,070
Yeah.

2981
01:40:42,370 --> 01:40:44,890
This is the, uh, the minister of foreign

2982
01:40:44,890 --> 01:40:48,610
affairs, Abdul Kahar Balkik.

2983
01:40:48,910 --> 01:40:49,910
Abdul Kahar Balkik.

2984
01:40:49,950 --> 01:40:50,470
Thank you so much.

2985
01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:51,230
This is on CBS.

2986
01:40:51,530 --> 01:40:54,470
This is a legitimate CIA broadcast systems.

2987
01:40:54,730 --> 01:40:55,590
Abdul Kahar Balkik.

2988
01:40:55,730 --> 01:40:57,490
Thank you so much for speaking to us.

2989
01:40:57,850 --> 01:41:00,110
The Taliban has been clear that it wants

2990
01:41:00,110 --> 01:41:02,970
a new chapter with the U.S. What

2991
01:41:02,970 --> 01:41:03,790
is a new chapter?

2992
01:41:04,290 --> 01:41:06,170
It's a new chapter means that we end

2993
01:41:06,170 --> 01:41:08,690
the, we close the old chapter of 20

2994
01:41:08,690 --> 01:41:13,450
years of, uh, warfare of being adversaries and

2995
01:41:13,450 --> 01:41:14,850
looking forward to the future.

2996
01:41:15,250 --> 01:41:17,530
The common goal of a stable and prosperous

2997
01:41:17,530 --> 01:41:19,690
Afghanistan for the benefit of the people of

2998
01:41:19,690 --> 01:41:20,030
Afghanistan.

2999
01:41:20,270 --> 01:41:22,490
And we believe that having an Afghanistan that

3000
01:41:22,490 --> 01:41:25,130
is integrated, uh, that is prosperous, that is

3001
01:41:25,130 --> 01:41:26,970
stable is also in the interest of the

3002
01:41:26,970 --> 01:41:27,790
United States of America.

3003
01:41:27,890 --> 01:41:30,290
So now the Taliban pops up and says,

3004
01:41:30,410 --> 01:41:32,670
Hey baby, want to, want to talk deal?

3005
01:41:32,750 --> 01:41:33,310
No deal.

3006
01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:34,410
Well, you got an idea.

3007
01:41:34,450 --> 01:41:35,070
I got an idea.

3008
01:41:35,070 --> 01:41:36,370
What do you got on your side of

3009
01:41:36,370 --> 01:41:36,490
the table?

3010
01:41:36,650 --> 01:41:37,450
What do I get on my side of

3011
01:41:37,450 --> 01:41:37,630
the table?

3012
01:41:37,710 --> 01:41:39,630
But as you know, president Trump is unlike

3013
01:41:39,630 --> 01:41:42,330
other presidents and wants to make a deal.

3014
01:41:42,530 --> 01:41:44,250
And the one he's outlined is pretty clear.

3015
01:41:44,570 --> 01:41:46,670
Give us back our military hardware worth billions

3016
01:41:46,670 --> 01:41:47,090
of dollars.

3017
01:41:47,370 --> 01:41:50,450
And we will unfreeze these assets, which rightfully

3018
01:41:50,450 --> 01:41:51,410
belong to Afghanistan.

3019
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:53,310
Will the Taliban take that deal?

3020
01:41:53,670 --> 01:41:55,530
With regards to the assets of the central

3021
01:41:55,530 --> 01:41:58,110
bank of Afghanistan, just as, as the title

3022
01:41:58,110 --> 01:42:00,490
says, they're the assets of the central bank

3023
01:42:00,490 --> 01:42:00,950
of Afghanistan.

3024
01:42:00,950 --> 01:42:04,690
They're not the assets of my government or

3025
01:42:04,690 --> 01:42:08,730
any other administrations, uh, that have, uh, governed

3026
01:42:08,730 --> 01:42:09,810
Afghanistan previously.

3027
01:42:10,130 --> 01:42:11,990
These are the assets of the people of

3028
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:13,310
Afghanistan and the state of Afghanistan.

3029
01:42:13,710 --> 01:42:17,770
They have been withheld, uh, wrongfully, uh, illegitimately

3030
01:42:17,770 --> 01:42:20,430
and unlawfully, and they need to be released

3031
01:42:20,430 --> 01:42:21,710
without any conditions.

3032
01:42:22,190 --> 01:42:22,470
Okay.

3033
01:42:22,630 --> 01:42:24,430
So this doesn't sound like it's about the

3034
01:42:24,430 --> 01:42:25,430
money at all.

3035
01:42:25,550 --> 01:42:26,710
I mean, first of all, what are we

3036
01:42:26,710 --> 01:42:28,470
real there's nothing they've already gotten rid.

3037
01:42:28,510 --> 01:42:29,190
They sold everything.

3038
01:42:29,190 --> 01:42:31,510
They crashed all the helicopters.

3039
01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:32,950
The planes are no good.

3040
01:42:33,570 --> 01:42:33,790
All that.

3041
01:42:33,970 --> 01:42:36,010
They give away the pickup trucks are scattered

3042
01:42:36,010 --> 01:42:38,410
all over the country, all over the world.

3043
01:42:38,890 --> 01:42:40,770
And then, and then the asset, the frozen

3044
01:42:40,770 --> 01:42:43,450
assets, it's a whopping get ready for it.

3045
01:42:43,490 --> 01:42:45,710
17 and a half billion dollars.

3046
01:42:45,850 --> 01:42:47,590
That's an Elon Musk couch.

3047
01:42:48,210 --> 01:42:49,950
Now that's not a problem.

3048
01:42:50,190 --> 01:42:52,150
So there's something going on here.

3049
01:42:52,190 --> 01:42:54,470
And again, is Afghanistan, what country do they

3050
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:57,030
border on Pakistan?

3051
01:42:57,990 --> 01:42:58,510
Nice.

3052
01:42:58,510 --> 01:42:58,810
India.

3053
01:42:59,070 --> 01:43:00,150
I think maybe China.

3054
01:43:00,370 --> 01:43:00,670
Yeah.

3055
01:43:00,710 --> 01:43:01,870
I'm thinking one of those.

3056
01:43:02,130 --> 01:43:04,410
It's clear that Taliban wants to reset with

3057
01:43:04,410 --> 01:43:06,870
the U S despite this 20 year history

3058
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:08,910
of pretty brutal warfare.

3059
01:43:09,390 --> 01:43:11,230
President Trump made a deal with the Taliban,

3060
01:43:11,370 --> 01:43:13,370
which ultimately saw the end of America's longest

3061
01:43:13,370 --> 01:43:13,810
war.

3062
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:16,350
And indeed the withdrawal of us forces.

3063
01:43:16,450 --> 01:43:18,550
It's all done has been in power ever

3064
01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:18,970
since.

3065
01:43:19,010 --> 01:43:21,730
And now Mr. Trump is back in office.

3066
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:23,950
Now he said that what he wants to

3067
01:43:23,950 --> 01:43:24,170
see.

3068
01:43:24,330 --> 01:43:26,590
Whoa, that was kind of, that was interesting.

3069
01:43:28,150 --> 01:43:29,030
I missed it.

3070
01:43:29,110 --> 01:43:30,850
Well, they made it sound like Trump did

3071
01:43:30,850 --> 01:43:31,530
the withdrawal.

3072
01:43:32,970 --> 01:43:33,510
Thank you.

3073
01:43:33,730 --> 01:43:34,070
really?

3074
01:43:34,250 --> 01:43:34,370
Yeah.

3075
01:43:34,430 --> 01:43:34,870
Listen again.

3076
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:36,990
All bond has been in power ever since.

3077
01:43:37,110 --> 01:43:39,690
And now Mr. Trump is back in office.

3078
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:41,350
Wait, let me play the, you got to

3079
01:43:41,350 --> 01:43:42,470
hear the full bit from here.

3080
01:43:42,730 --> 01:43:44,810
There was president Trump made a deal with

3081
01:43:44,810 --> 01:43:46,630
the Taliban, which ultimately saw the end of

3082
01:43:46,630 --> 01:43:47,770
America's longest war.

3083
01:43:47,790 --> 01:43:50,270
And indeed the withdrawal of us forces.

3084
01:43:50,410 --> 01:43:52,490
It's all done has been in power ever

3085
01:43:52,490 --> 01:43:52,930
since.

3086
01:43:52,930 --> 01:43:55,670
And now Mr. Trump is back in office.

3087
01:43:56,010 --> 01:43:57,890
Now he said that what he wants to

3088
01:43:57,890 --> 01:44:00,750
see, at least initially, is the return of

3089
01:44:00,750 --> 01:44:03,570
billions of dollars worth of us military equipment

3090
01:44:03,570 --> 01:44:05,670
and hardware back to the us.

3091
01:44:05,770 --> 01:44:10,050
In exchange, he will consider unfreezing foreign currency

3092
01:44:10,050 --> 01:44:13,150
reserves that president Biden froze after the withdrawal.

3093
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:14,910
Is that a deal that the Taliban is

3094
01:44:14,910 --> 01:44:15,510
willing to take?

3095
01:44:15,650 --> 01:44:18,510
Currently the best way to engage is through

3096
01:44:18,510 --> 01:44:23,050
normal diplomatic means, engage, talk, find common spaces

3097
01:44:23,050 --> 01:44:27,470
that secures the interests of both countries and

3098
01:44:27,470 --> 01:44:29,290
that addresses the common concerns.

3099
01:44:29,410 --> 01:44:29,810
Now.

3100
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:33,930
So Afghanistan borders on all the stands Turkmenistan,

3101
01:44:34,250 --> 01:44:37,510
Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, China.

3102
01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:38,070
Yeah.

3103
01:44:38,130 --> 01:44:39,990
Most importantly, Iran.

3104
01:44:41,050 --> 01:44:41,610
Yes.

3105
01:44:41,970 --> 01:44:43,630
That would be, that would be the most

3106
01:44:43,630 --> 01:44:44,430
important one.

3107
01:44:44,710 --> 01:44:47,370
And so this is, this is a part

3108
01:44:47,370 --> 01:44:48,970
of, of the show.

3109
01:44:48,970 --> 01:44:51,490
I think we need to have an, it's

3110
01:44:51,490 --> 01:44:52,430
just called the show.

3111
01:44:53,230 --> 01:44:54,290
This is a show.

3112
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:56,450
This is not all of a sudden.

3113
01:44:56,530 --> 01:44:59,530
The Taliban goes, Hey, Trump, you know, you

3114
01:44:59,530 --> 01:45:01,630
know, you kill our guys, but yeah, you

3115
01:45:01,630 --> 01:45:02,530
know, let's do a deal.

3116
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:03,750
Deal.

3117
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:04,230
No deal.

3118
01:45:05,610 --> 01:45:08,370
There's a lot going on here that your

3119
01:45:08,370 --> 01:45:11,990
M five M is not exploring signal gate.

3120
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:13,110
Mommy bloggers.

3121
01:45:16,170 --> 01:45:21,170
Oh, actually, um, what I have, I had,

3122
01:45:21,330 --> 01:45:22,890
uh, what did I have?

3123
01:45:22,930 --> 01:45:24,510
I had a signal gate clip here.

3124
01:45:24,650 --> 01:45:25,010
Yes.

3125
01:45:25,730 --> 01:45:26,170
Brennan.

3126
01:45:26,810 --> 01:45:28,630
Brennan lets it slip who he's really.

3127
01:45:28,870 --> 01:45:29,310
Yeah.

3128
01:45:29,550 --> 01:45:29,670
Yeah.

3129
01:45:29,790 --> 01:45:31,030
Brennan's back with Katie.

3130
01:45:31,670 --> 01:45:33,010
Who has two moms.

3131
01:45:33,290 --> 01:45:34,730
One mom is a dude in a dress.

3132
01:45:34,930 --> 01:45:36,950
Um, if you were the CIA director and

3133
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:40,390
you were included on a, a signal message

3134
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:41,950
chain, I know it didn't exist when you

3135
01:45:41,950 --> 01:45:43,970
were CIA director, but something of that light,

3136
01:45:44,190 --> 01:45:46,250
would you have, she say Chan?

3137
01:45:46,890 --> 01:45:48,010
Let me say chain.

3138
01:45:48,010 --> 01:45:50,930
I think a, a signal message chain.

3139
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:52,290
I know it didn't exist when you were

3140
01:45:52,290 --> 01:45:54,950
CIA director, but something of that, like, would

3141
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:57,470
you have spoken up, um, and said, Hey,

3142
01:45:57,470 --> 01:45:59,830
listen, we shouldn't be having this conversation here.

3143
01:45:59,950 --> 01:46:01,570
I know John Radcliffe has said that he

3144
01:46:01,570 --> 01:46:05,210
didn't release any classified information on that chain.

3145
01:46:05,290 --> 01:46:08,170
He's trying to absolve himself from any wrongdoing,

3146
01:46:08,170 --> 01:46:10,070
but did he have a duty to speak

3147
01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:10,310
up?

3148
01:46:10,730 --> 01:46:13,030
Well, I think it's certainly, there would have

3149
01:46:13,030 --> 01:46:14,930
been, should have been questions raised when Mike

3150
01:46:14,930 --> 01:46:17,670
Walsh informed the group that there was going

3151
01:46:17,670 --> 01:46:20,150
to be this signal discussion at the principals

3152
01:46:20,150 --> 01:46:20,610
level.

3153
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:23,130
He was the one who put together this

3154
01:46:23,130 --> 01:46:25,370
communication chat forum.

3155
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:26,590
He was one who's agenda.

3156
01:46:27,490 --> 01:46:29,670
So it's the national security advisor who chairs

3157
01:46:29,670 --> 01:46:31,590
the principals committee meeting, which this was a

3158
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:32,570
virtual committee meeting.

3159
01:46:33,010 --> 01:46:34,470
And so there should have been questions raised

3160
01:46:34,470 --> 01:46:35,290
from the very beginning.

3161
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:36,090
Well, wait a minute.

3162
01:46:36,470 --> 01:46:38,470
This is a pending military operation.

3163
01:46:38,770 --> 01:46:39,990
Why are we going to be doing this

3164
01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:40,850
on signal?

3165
01:46:41,130 --> 01:46:44,050
So it should have been redirected early on

3166
01:46:44,050 --> 01:46:46,990
to, into classified systems and networks.

3167
01:46:47,550 --> 01:46:50,130
So yeah, this is something that in my

3168
01:46:50,130 --> 01:46:52,010
experience, we never would have done.

3169
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:54,570
Again, sometimes someone will pick up a phone

3170
01:46:54,570 --> 01:46:56,790
because you have to convey some type of

3171
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:57,810
message to somebody.

3172
01:46:58,030 --> 01:46:59,170
And the only way you have to do

3173
01:46:59,170 --> 01:47:00,730
it is with some type of unclassified system,

3174
01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:02,850
but you do it cryptically, you do it

3175
01:47:02,850 --> 01:47:04,810
in a manner that's not going to reveal

3176
01:47:04,810 --> 01:47:05,750
the operational details.

3177
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:08,710
And despite what secretary Hickson says, there were

3178
01:47:08,710 --> 01:47:10,910
operational details included in that chat.

3179
01:47:11,150 --> 01:47:13,470
So it sounds like Brennan's going after Waltz.

3180
01:47:14,630 --> 01:47:16,150
They're all going after Waltz.

3181
01:47:16,150 --> 01:47:18,270
And now the latest is this guy Wong.

3182
01:47:18,810 --> 01:47:20,090
The Wong guy.

3183
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:20,650
Yeah.

3184
01:47:20,890 --> 01:47:21,770
Burl Lafong.

3185
01:47:22,190 --> 01:47:25,230
But that's, that's all Laura Loomer posts about

3186
01:47:25,230 --> 01:47:25,870
all day long.

3187
01:47:25,950 --> 01:47:27,230
I've already solved it.

3188
01:47:27,390 --> 01:47:27,490
Yeah.

3189
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:29,070
Laura Loomer.

3190
01:47:29,630 --> 01:47:30,090
big news coming.

3191
01:47:30,090 --> 01:47:31,550
but she picks up some pretty funny stuff.

3192
01:47:31,610 --> 01:47:32,190
She's got this.

3193
01:47:32,630 --> 01:47:34,450
And the connection of course is a guilt

3194
01:47:34,450 --> 01:47:37,150
by association, which is this Wong character who

3195
01:47:37,150 --> 01:47:40,130
is Waltz's undersecretary, I guess.

3196
01:47:40,130 --> 01:47:43,350
It was married to a woman, another Chinese,

3197
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:47,970
Chinese American who went after the J sixers.

3198
01:47:48,270 --> 01:47:48,490
Thus.

3199
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:50,770
Oh, all right.

3200
01:47:51,390 --> 01:47:52,970
Oh, there you go.

3201
01:47:53,190 --> 01:47:54,770
Oh, there's a J sixer.

3202
01:47:54,850 --> 01:47:55,330
Oh man.

3203
01:47:55,470 --> 01:47:57,030
That's what a quagmire.

3204
01:47:57,230 --> 01:47:57,750
Oh boy.

3205
01:47:58,430 --> 01:48:01,090
Well then allow me to bring in Jesse

3206
01:48:01,090 --> 01:48:01,550
waters.

3207
01:48:01,710 --> 01:48:02,130
That's right.

3208
01:48:02,170 --> 01:48:02,790
I'm doing it.

3209
01:48:03,050 --> 01:48:03,390
I can't.

3210
01:48:03,630 --> 01:48:04,730
Oh, okay.

3211
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:05,590
Hold on a second.

3212
01:48:05,630 --> 01:48:06,350
Let me make a note.

3213
01:48:06,850 --> 01:48:08,550
Make a note, make a note.

3214
01:48:08,770 --> 01:48:10,690
I figured this is the three for one.

3215
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:12,090
It means I could do three for the

3216
01:48:12,090 --> 01:48:12,310
one.

3217
01:48:12,630 --> 01:48:14,890
What, what in what universe do you get

3218
01:48:14,890 --> 01:48:16,330
three for one of anything?

3219
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:21,750
You, you, you promised me off camera off

3220
01:48:23,570 --> 01:48:23,790
camera.

3221
01:48:24,490 --> 01:48:25,830
We should stream cameras.

3222
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:27,430
Yeah, man, we should do YouTube live when

3223
01:48:27,430 --> 01:48:29,950
we do this show, we should stream it

3224
01:48:29,950 --> 01:48:30,490
on X.

3225
01:48:32,490 --> 01:48:34,590
Uh, so this is the latest in the,

3226
01:48:34,630 --> 01:48:38,710
uh, in the JFK files, which went away.

3227
01:48:38,710 --> 01:48:40,330
By the way, I'm not going to interrupt.

3228
01:48:41,530 --> 01:48:44,230
Now that you mentioned streaming a live video

3229
01:48:44,230 --> 01:48:46,650
on X, you mentioned earlier in the show

3230
01:48:46,650 --> 01:48:48,810
how we're like not in this group of

3231
01:48:48,810 --> 01:48:50,670
people that are changing, you know, the value

3232
01:48:50,670 --> 01:48:54,790
tainment guy interviewing Tucker, who was interviewing Megan,

3233
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:58,970
Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, big circle jerk.

3234
01:48:59,510 --> 01:49:00,910
They're all video.

3235
01:49:01,290 --> 01:49:02,350
That's why.

3236
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:05,170
Well, praise God.

3237
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:08,170
You imagine we, I'll give you that one.

3238
01:49:08,170 --> 01:49:09,510
We have to do video.

3239
01:49:11,290 --> 01:49:12,450
Hey, what was it?

3240
01:49:12,470 --> 01:49:14,030
Someone had a good nickname for us.

3241
01:49:14,130 --> 01:49:16,410
It was, uh, tick and twitch or something.

3242
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:20,610
Gone is buzz, uh, crackpot and buzzkill.

3243
01:49:21,050 --> 01:49:22,730
No people, we're not going to do that.

3244
01:49:23,370 --> 01:49:24,010
All right.

3245
01:49:24,030 --> 01:49:25,890
So this is, uh, this is the latest

3246
01:49:25,890 --> 01:49:29,070
twist in the JFK files, which just went

3247
01:49:29,070 --> 01:49:31,930
away within days within days.

3248
01:49:31,990 --> 01:49:35,390
I tell you all this big talk, the

3249
01:49:35,390 --> 01:49:38,730
Epstein files, the JFK files, and now we

3250
01:49:38,730 --> 01:49:39,710
learned this.

3251
01:49:39,850 --> 01:49:41,250
I would like to actually tell the American

3252
01:49:41,250 --> 01:49:41,530
people.

3253
01:49:41,690 --> 01:49:44,330
It was made aware to me this evening

3254
01:49:44,330 --> 01:49:46,950
that NBC actually has a video.

3255
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:48,230
That's never been seen before.

3256
01:49:48,230 --> 01:49:49,670
We're actually going to be a set, sending

3257
01:49:49,670 --> 01:49:52,310
a letter requesting that from NBC because it

3258
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:56,090
allegedly shows Oswalt, um, near the vehicle when

3259
01:49:56,090 --> 01:49:58,230
the assassination took place, which means that he

3260
01:49:58,230 --> 01:49:59,630
couldn't have been the shooter.

3261
01:49:59,670 --> 01:50:02,050
So again, we're tracking down all this information,

3262
01:50:02,050 --> 01:50:03,970
but look, there's even a CIA document that

3263
01:50:03,970 --> 01:50:06,050
came out that Mr. Morley pointed out that

3264
01:50:06,050 --> 01:50:07,790
actually said that the CIA never, never bought

3265
01:50:07,790 --> 01:50:08,950
the lone gunman theory.

3266
01:50:09,170 --> 01:50:11,450
And so I think the American people had

3267
01:50:11,450 --> 01:50:13,370
an inclination as to what we are saying,

3268
01:50:13,410 --> 01:50:15,070
but we never had the hard evidence until

3269
01:50:15,070 --> 01:50:15,510
now.

3270
01:50:15,850 --> 01:50:17,210
And so it's important to note that in

3271
01:50:17,210 --> 01:50:18,690
a free and fair society, how could you

3272
01:50:18,690 --> 01:50:20,670
operate or have an agency operating in the

3273
01:50:20,670 --> 01:50:20,950
shadows?

3274
01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:23,770
And so kudos to president Trump, also director

3275
01:50:23,770 --> 01:50:26,110
Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard for pushing for this

3276
01:50:26,110 --> 01:50:26,590
transparency.

3277
01:50:26,830 --> 01:50:29,030
It is going to be generational changing that

3278
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:29,710
they've done this.

3279
01:50:29,930 --> 01:50:31,870
And we hope to bring forward legislation to,

3280
01:50:31,970 --> 01:50:33,710
to ensure that this never happens again for

3281
01:50:33,710 --> 01:50:34,770
future generations to come.

3282
01:50:35,050 --> 01:50:36,390
This is very unclear to me.

3283
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:39,490
Did this information come out of the JFK

3284
01:50:39,490 --> 01:50:40,550
files drop?

3285
01:50:42,250 --> 01:50:44,610
This whole thing is a confused mess.

3286
01:50:44,770 --> 01:50:45,210
That's bull.

3287
01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:47,290
Whatever she said, oh, it's going to be

3288
01:50:47,290 --> 01:50:48,130
generational.

3289
01:50:48,350 --> 01:50:49,210
It will never happen again.

3290
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:51,470
How do you prevent something from ever happening

3291
01:50:51,470 --> 01:50:53,870
again when it's just illegal to begin with?

3292
01:50:53,950 --> 01:50:55,850
I mean, what are they talking about?

3293
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:58,830
Well, apparently all of a sudden there's a

3294
01:50:58,830 --> 01:51:02,650
picture of, of Oswald coincidentally next to the

3295
01:51:02,650 --> 01:51:02,950
car.

3296
01:51:03,250 --> 01:51:03,870
Hey, how you doing?

3297
01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:04,870
I'm Oswald.

3298
01:51:05,530 --> 01:51:08,810
It's film and Oliver stone had it too.

3299
01:51:08,930 --> 01:51:11,950
You're saying NBC has been keeping this tape

3300
01:51:11,950 --> 01:51:13,990
of Oswald under wraps.

3301
01:51:14,610 --> 01:51:15,130
Correct.

3302
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:18,610
In fact, uh, stone actually told us that

3303
01:51:18,610 --> 01:51:20,870
he was showed this tape, uh, that it

3304
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:22,850
was a secondary copy and that he said

3305
01:51:22,850 --> 01:51:24,990
that this could blow open the entire JFK,

3306
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:27,270
um, investigation.

3307
01:51:27,370 --> 01:51:29,210
What I will also tell you though, Jesse

3308
01:51:29,210 --> 01:51:31,070
is, he said that NBC has been very,

3309
01:51:31,170 --> 01:51:32,650
very much so guarding this tape.

3310
01:51:32,650 --> 01:51:34,450
And so I believe that that tape belongs

3311
01:51:34,450 --> 01:51:35,430
to the American people.

3312
01:51:35,570 --> 01:51:37,130
We are going to be sending a letter

3313
01:51:37,130 --> 01:51:38,390
asking for that tape.

3314
01:51:38,450 --> 01:51:41,150
And I would encourage everyone to ask and

3315
01:51:41,150 --> 01:51:44,050
she's a Florida representative Luna.

3316
01:51:44,970 --> 01:51:48,090
Oh, this Luna is the bathing suit model.

3317
01:51:48,690 --> 01:51:49,570
Oh, hold on a second.

3318
01:51:49,770 --> 01:51:51,010
I mean, I didn't, is she a bathing

3319
01:51:51,010 --> 01:51:51,610
suit model?

3320
01:51:52,350 --> 01:51:53,870
She's the one that looks good in the

3321
01:51:53,870 --> 01:51:55,510
bikini and they made a big fuss about

3322
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:55,810
it.

3323
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:56,830
Luna.

3324
01:51:56,990 --> 01:51:58,630
She's kind of a Luna tick.

3325
01:51:58,730 --> 01:51:59,830
Anna Paulina Luna.

3326
01:52:00,430 --> 01:52:00,610
Yeah.

3327
01:52:00,650 --> 01:52:02,030
She's the bathing suit girl.

3328
01:52:02,030 --> 01:52:04,170
Is there, uh, let's see.

3329
01:52:05,090 --> 01:52:06,410
I don't see any bathing suit.

3330
01:52:06,610 --> 01:52:08,410
Well, just type in a band of plenty

3331
01:52:08,410 --> 01:52:09,670
of Luna bathing suit.

3332
01:52:09,710 --> 01:52:11,830
How about bikini, bikini, bikini?

3333
01:52:11,970 --> 01:52:12,650
That's the same thing.

3334
01:52:15,010 --> 01:52:19,650
Oh, Oh, back to the video tape.

3335
01:52:19,850 --> 01:52:21,110
We are going to be sending a letter

3336
01:52:21,110 --> 01:52:22,350
asking for that tape.

3337
01:52:22,370 --> 01:52:25,290
And I would encourage everyone to ask NBC

3338
01:52:25,290 --> 01:52:27,070
to release that tape to the public.

3339
01:52:27,070 --> 01:52:29,670
It's important, not just for our investigations, but

3340
01:52:29,670 --> 01:52:31,470
so the American people know the truth as

3341
01:52:31,470 --> 01:52:32,570
to what happened with John F.

3342
01:52:32,670 --> 01:52:32,850
Kennedy.

3343
01:52:36,510 --> 01:52:36,950
Newsflash.

3344
01:52:37,110 --> 01:52:38,250
We're never going to know the truth.

3345
01:52:39,670 --> 01:52:40,530
Newsflash people.

3346
01:52:41,290 --> 01:52:41,730
Newsflash.

3347
01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:46,350
Luna is also causing some trouble with, uh,

3348
01:52:47,090 --> 01:52:50,410
with, uh, Johnson, the house speaker.

3349
01:52:50,450 --> 01:52:51,790
She's trying to do something.

3350
01:52:51,910 --> 01:52:53,590
And I can't remember exactly what it is.

3351
01:52:53,630 --> 01:52:55,310
She's somebody in the, in the troll room

3352
01:52:55,310 --> 01:52:57,130
might know this, but she's making a big

3353
01:52:57,130 --> 01:52:58,110
fuss about something.

3354
01:52:58,110 --> 01:53:00,010
She wants it brought to the house floor

3355
01:53:00,010 --> 01:53:02,250
or something and she can't do it without

3356
01:53:02,250 --> 01:53:04,810
Johnson, but there's some bypass mechanism.

3357
01:53:04,810 --> 01:53:07,550
She's working on Causing a stir.

3358
01:53:08,030 --> 01:53:10,790
This is so this everything is a show.

3359
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:13,630
Everything is a show right now But in

3360
01:53:13,630 --> 01:53:16,430
my favorite was the save the spook operation

3361
01:53:16,430 --> 01:53:20,730
over there at Columbia University So we know

3362
01:53:20,730 --> 01:53:23,690
so SIPA, but what's the what is the

3363
01:53:23,690 --> 01:53:26,330
was that school stand for school for international?

3364
01:53:26,670 --> 01:53:35,590
Political public International spies public administration spy school

3365
01:53:35,590 --> 01:53:39,510
spy school Diversity graduates today tore up their

3366
01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:42,550
diplomas to protest the school's cooperation with the

3367
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:45,830
Trump administration graduates of the School of International

3368
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:49,150
and Public Affairs Chanted free Palestine as they

3369
01:53:49,150 --> 01:53:52,650
destroyed their sheepskins it was alumni day on

3370
01:53:52,650 --> 01:53:54,910
campus the protests are in support of Mahmood

3371
01:53:54,910 --> 01:53:58,170
Khalil the Columbia grad student and Protester now

3372
01:53:58,170 --> 01:54:01,730
held by ICE agents and they also object

3373
01:54:01,730 --> 01:54:05,110
to the concessions made to curb protests on

3374
01:54:05,110 --> 01:54:08,290
campus some protesters also calling for the dismissal

3375
01:54:08,290 --> 01:54:12,270
of several Columbia University teachers and Administrators, so

3376
01:54:12,270 --> 01:54:15,190
these are alums who came by tore up

3377
01:54:15,190 --> 01:54:17,930
their sheepskins, which is like cardboard to me

3378
01:54:17,930 --> 01:54:21,690
Yeah, it looked like cardboard paper And but

3379
01:54:21,690 --> 01:54:24,170
they're all they're all former spook school students

3380
01:54:25,290 --> 01:54:27,210
They didn't get a job in an agency

3381
01:54:27,210 --> 01:54:30,930
and so now they're pissed off The whole

3382
01:54:30,930 --> 01:54:34,290
thing could be a scam The world has

3383
01:54:34,290 --> 01:54:35,430
gone crazy man.

3384
01:54:35,730 --> 01:54:37,070
The world has gone crazy.

3385
01:54:37,190 --> 01:54:37,870
That's a good one.

3386
01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:39,730
I didn't know that story Yeah, well with

3387
01:54:39,730 --> 01:54:40,950
that I'd like to thank you for your

3388
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:42,430
courage saying the morning to you the man

3389
01:54:42,430 --> 01:54:45,610
who put the C in his Chimes say

3390
01:54:45,610 --> 01:54:46,830
hello to my friend on the other end

3391
01:54:46,830 --> 01:54:47,730
the one the only mr.

3392
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:57,250
Moran Caring to my ship seat boots at

3393
01:54:57,250 --> 01:54:58,410
the ground feeding the air subs in the

3394
01:54:58,410 --> 01:54:59,810
water all the names of nights out there

3395
01:54:59,810 --> 01:55:08,570
in the morning to the trolls 9992 thousand

3396
01:55:08,570 --> 01:55:10,470
two hundred and ninety one.

3397
01:55:11,210 --> 01:55:17,490
Okay now you're low Yeah, we're a little

3398
01:55:17,490 --> 01:55:21,190
low the last little The last ten show

3399
01:55:21,190 --> 01:55:23,330
average percent low the last.

3400
01:55:23,490 --> 01:55:27,290
Yeah, the last ten show average was 2569

3401
01:55:27,290 --> 01:55:30,530
But why is that is there something going

3402
01:55:30,530 --> 01:55:32,390
on because donations were short?

3403
01:55:33,110 --> 01:55:36,750
Yeah, donations are lousy Reversing support.

3404
01:55:36,910 --> 01:55:38,510
I don't think people are in we're not

3405
01:55:38,510 --> 01:55:39,090
talking enough.

3406
01:55:39,210 --> 01:55:40,370
We're doing the same thing.

3407
01:55:40,430 --> 01:55:42,190
We always do it's a big mistake We

3408
01:55:42,190 --> 01:55:44,890
make yeah, yeah, which is we don't talk

3409
01:55:44,890 --> 01:55:47,650
about what everyone else is talking about as

3410
01:55:47,650 --> 01:55:50,210
if it was something important Yeah, and in

3411
01:55:50,210 --> 01:55:54,310
this case this Spiral gator.

3412
01:55:54,530 --> 01:55:54,730
Yes.

3413
01:55:54,910 --> 01:55:56,750
Yes, and we also don't have video.

3414
01:55:57,050 --> 01:55:58,710
This is this we don't have well the

3415
01:55:58,710 --> 01:56:00,430
video I don't think it's a crucial.

3416
01:56:00,670 --> 01:56:02,650
I did have a it is they get

3417
01:56:02,650 --> 01:56:06,670
us on value tainment They keep trying to

3418
01:56:06,670 --> 01:56:07,930
get us on value tainment.

3419
01:56:08,010 --> 01:56:09,370
I'm trying to get you on no one's

3420
01:56:09,370 --> 01:56:11,830
ever contacted me Well, I did have a

3421
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:13,470
thought about this as we're you know We

3422
01:56:13,470 --> 01:56:15,670
we have said four more years and we're

3423
01:56:15,670 --> 01:56:17,650
in that right now the final days the

3424
01:56:17,650 --> 01:56:20,270
final days of final days I did have

3425
01:56:20,270 --> 01:56:22,550
an exit strategy, which you're going to roll

3426
01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:24,150
your eyes when I tell you this.

3427
01:56:24,270 --> 01:56:27,550
Okay, let me pre-roll pre-roll because

3428
01:56:27,550 --> 01:56:30,390
I finally like oh and it was there

3429
01:56:30,390 --> 01:56:33,490
was some other bullcrap award show the 50

3430
01:56:33,490 --> 01:56:37,150
-over-50 or something for podcasts blah blah

3431
01:56:37,150 --> 01:56:40,450
Whatever it was and then I'm like there

3432
01:56:40,450 --> 01:56:43,210
is here is an award show an award

3433
01:56:43,210 --> 01:56:46,910
that only we can give this show And

3434
01:56:46,910 --> 01:56:50,250
it's completely valid and will be Revalidated every

3435
01:56:50,250 --> 01:56:52,190
year because I'm on the Rogan show it

3436
01:56:52,190 --> 01:56:53,650
with you know with grace.

3437
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:55,610
I'm on once a year You have been

3438
01:56:55,610 --> 01:56:56,690
on that show six times.

3439
01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:58,210
I thought it was five, but it's six.

3440
01:56:58,570 --> 01:57:01,510
Yeah The punishing return are you ready?

3441
01:57:01,590 --> 01:57:02,070
Are you ready?

3442
01:57:02,470 --> 01:57:04,750
Yeah the Podfather Awards.

3443
01:57:06,030 --> 01:57:07,070
Oh I like it.

3444
01:57:07,310 --> 01:57:10,050
I knew you would because I'd roll my

3445
01:57:10,050 --> 01:57:12,150
eyes you didn't What do you change your

3446
01:57:12,150 --> 01:57:12,370
mind?

3447
01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:15,450
Oh, I know you would know the fact

3448
01:57:15,450 --> 01:57:17,150
that I preface it all you're gonna roll

3449
01:57:17,150 --> 01:57:18,950
your eyes No, no, I knew you'd like

3450
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:19,090
it.

3451
01:57:19,190 --> 01:57:20,930
No the fact that I'm in on an

3452
01:57:20,930 --> 01:57:24,750
award show That part of always been against

3453
01:57:24,750 --> 01:57:26,990
but then I thought why don't I exploit

3454
01:57:26,990 --> 01:57:29,590
this and there's people always on X yelling

3455
01:57:29,590 --> 01:57:33,290
you idiot You nerd he's not the bad

3456
01:57:33,290 --> 01:57:35,950
father Adam Curry's a bad father and I

3457
01:57:35,950 --> 01:57:39,530
have proof and And and and I think

3458
01:57:39,530 --> 01:57:43,290
it's it's possible No, I want to stop

3459
01:57:43,290 --> 01:57:43,990
you right now.

3460
01:57:44,370 --> 01:57:46,270
I have been saying that we should be

3461
01:57:46,270 --> 01:57:48,950
doing of awards for yes Okay, there's the

3462
01:57:48,950 --> 01:57:52,050
eye roll, but I never considered the kind

3463
01:57:52,050 --> 01:57:54,490
so podcast Oh, no, we never considered since

3464
01:57:54,490 --> 01:57:56,870
it was you never once it's named after

3465
01:57:56,870 --> 01:58:02,970
you you're in Look this is no time

3466
01:58:02,970 --> 01:58:03,890
for ego John.

3467
01:58:03,950 --> 01:58:07,310
There's no time for ego It can be

3468
01:58:07,310 --> 01:58:12,310
no Ted Grouch awards just doesn't cut it.

3469
01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:14,150
All right that we can do those later

3470
01:58:16,050 --> 01:58:18,250
Ted Grouch awards will be great not to

3471
01:58:18,250 --> 01:58:20,330
mention it, but here's the trick it has

3472
01:58:20,330 --> 01:58:21,110
to be a gala.

3473
01:58:21,290 --> 01:58:23,710
It has to be a gala Or as

3474
01:58:23,710 --> 01:58:25,210
I like as I like to say a

3475
01:58:25,210 --> 01:58:25,490
gala.

3476
01:58:25,650 --> 01:58:27,290
Yeah, America They always say gala.

3477
01:58:27,390 --> 01:58:28,410
It has to be a gala.

3478
01:58:28,430 --> 01:58:30,270
I think the Brits say gala, too There's

3479
01:58:30,270 --> 01:58:31,490
no somebody says gala.

3480
01:58:31,670 --> 01:58:32,290
Somebody says go.

3481
01:58:32,350 --> 01:58:35,290
Well, we're gonna say gala And I think

3482
01:58:35,290 --> 01:58:37,910
because he never shows up he never accepts

3483
01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:39,690
an award I think if we have the

3484
01:58:39,690 --> 01:58:42,570
the right award I can get Joe Rogan

3485
01:58:42,570 --> 01:58:45,150
to come and and we can do it

3486
01:58:45,150 --> 01:58:49,010
in his club How about that?

3487
01:58:51,210 --> 01:58:52,450
You're liking it right?

3488
01:58:52,990 --> 01:58:54,390
Well, I like it except for the fact

3489
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:57,410
that I may have to travel You don't

3490
01:58:57,410 --> 01:58:59,570
you just have to write stuff and just

3491
01:58:59,570 --> 01:59:01,990
post memes You don't have to come if

3492
01:59:01,990 --> 01:59:03,090
you don't want to if it's too much

3493
01:59:03,090 --> 01:59:05,030
trouble or you have to come to come

3494
01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:07,330
to the gala If it's too much trouble

3495
01:59:07,330 --> 01:59:10,950
to come to our Podfather awards and we

3496
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:12,410
need to come up with categories, but they

3497
01:59:12,410 --> 01:59:16,850
have to be funny fantastic categories Like they

3498
01:59:16,850 --> 01:59:18,410
have to be good category.

3499
01:59:18,610 --> 01:59:21,650
Yeah, like best value team not joke about

3500
01:59:21,650 --> 01:59:27,110
best value attainment Okay, well you give me

3501
01:59:27,110 --> 01:59:33,990
some ideas How about longest podcast Win that

3502
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:37,770
one with no information Candice Owens ladies and

3503
01:59:37,770 --> 01:59:39,950
gentlemen the Podfather award and we and what

3504
01:59:39,950 --> 01:59:40,390
do we call him?

3505
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:41,570
Do we call him the potties?

3506
01:59:42,430 --> 01:59:46,670
No, the potties That would be the nickname

3507
01:59:46,670 --> 01:59:49,910
that we would Grail against people keep calling

3508
01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:51,790
these two potties, but it sounds like pot,

3509
01:59:51,950 --> 01:59:55,730
you know Yeah Yeah So it would be

3510
01:59:55,730 --> 01:59:57,370
you how you can get an Oscar the

3511
01:59:57,370 --> 01:59:58,810
potties is not beauty.

3512
01:59:59,070 --> 02:00:00,070
It's not a bad name You can get

3513
02:00:00,070 --> 02:00:01,010
you can Oscar.

3514
02:00:01,410 --> 02:00:02,390
It's part of the now.

3515
02:00:02,450 --> 02:00:04,030
It used to be a trifecta, but it's

3516
02:00:04,030 --> 02:00:08,430
the Oscar you get the Grammy Award Oh,

3517
02:00:08,490 --> 02:00:10,390
so we need the per the per got

3518
02:00:11,570 --> 02:00:12,930
So now you have a purse.

3519
02:00:13,130 --> 02:00:15,110
Yeah, you need to add the Podfather award

3520
02:00:15,110 --> 02:00:16,890
You are not complete unless you all and

3521
02:00:16,890 --> 02:00:19,530
everyone has a podcast Yeah, they can all

3522
02:00:19,530 --> 02:00:21,690
win all those actors, okay, we have best

3523
02:00:21,690 --> 02:00:25,430
comedy podcast that's one category for sure Yeah,

3524
02:00:25,510 --> 02:00:27,490
when you get some you get some hot

3525
02:00:27,490 --> 02:00:29,550
you get Dana Carvey or somebody to come

3526
02:00:29,550 --> 02:00:29,710
up?

3527
02:00:29,790 --> 02:00:30,830
No, no, we get and we get those

3528
02:00:30,830 --> 02:00:32,990
libtards from the what is it?

3529
02:00:33,850 --> 02:00:35,170
Jason what's-his-face?

3530
02:00:35,270 --> 02:00:37,050
What's the libtard show the one that helped

3531
02:00:37,050 --> 02:00:39,610
all the president Cal Jake on Jake Kyle

3532
02:00:39,610 --> 02:00:41,130
He gets an award for sure.

3533
02:00:41,430 --> 02:00:48,770
Oh, yeah, absolutely best all-in podcast Best

3534
02:00:48,770 --> 02:00:51,530
best female podcaster and think about that.

3535
02:00:51,610 --> 02:00:53,230
No, we don't want to do a sexist

3536
02:00:53,230 --> 02:00:53,610
stuff.

3537
02:00:53,670 --> 02:00:55,790
Yes, we do What are you talking about

3538
02:00:55,790 --> 02:00:57,670
then best trans podcast?

3539
02:01:00,530 --> 02:01:05,850
There's a hit yes, yes Yes, okay, well

3540
02:01:06,550 --> 02:01:08,670
It's I just want you to think about

3541
02:01:08,670 --> 02:01:08,850
it.

3542
02:01:08,990 --> 02:01:10,330
You know since I know I got I'm

3543
02:01:10,330 --> 02:01:13,130
in but it's riding you well did categorization

3544
02:01:13,130 --> 02:01:15,550
I think you you're already taking it too

3545
02:01:15,550 --> 02:01:16,030
lightly.

3546
02:01:16,610 --> 02:01:16,870
All right.

3547
02:01:16,970 --> 02:01:19,030
Well, where's your ideas brainstorm?

3548
02:01:20,290 --> 02:01:24,230
I What yeah, we're nothing but ideas about

3549
02:01:24,230 --> 02:01:25,330
this for a decade.

3550
02:01:25,430 --> 02:01:26,890
Well, then spout them off.

3551
02:01:26,930 --> 02:01:27,530
What are we doing?

3552
02:01:29,210 --> 02:01:31,030
First of all, you have to pay to

3553
02:01:31,030 --> 02:01:31,370
enter.

3554
02:01:32,750 --> 02:01:36,390
Oh No, well that that's what all the

3555
02:01:36,390 --> 02:01:38,190
all the podcast awards you have to pay

3556
02:01:38,190 --> 02:01:41,410
did to enter No, okay, you don't pay

3557
02:01:41,410 --> 02:01:43,890
real awards you don't pay to enter the

3558
02:01:43,890 --> 02:01:45,850
Academy Awards You don't pay you have to

3559
02:01:45,850 --> 02:01:47,570
be a member of the Academy or you

3560
02:01:47,570 --> 02:01:50,870
don't We have an Academy you have to

3561
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:51,550
be a member.

3562
02:01:51,710 --> 02:01:53,390
Well, maybe that's not a bad idea the

3563
02:01:53,390 --> 02:01:56,510
Academy of podcasting That actually exists and it's

3564
02:01:56,510 --> 02:01:58,230
a horrible leftist organization.

3565
02:01:58,310 --> 02:01:59,330
We want no part of it.

3566
02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:02,430
Really that you had the podcast Academy Wow,

3567
02:02:02,510 --> 02:02:02,790
okay.

3568
02:02:02,850 --> 02:02:06,250
Well forget that no But how do we

3569
02:02:06,250 --> 02:02:06,710
make money?

3570
02:02:08,390 --> 02:02:10,570
Oh You want to make me that dude?

3571
02:02:10,690 --> 02:02:12,330
I thought it was a promotional idea.

3572
02:02:12,590 --> 02:02:14,350
The money-making is part of is about

3573
02:02:14,350 --> 02:02:15,450
promotion for the show.

3574
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:21,130
Oh Okay, well value for value, oh boy,

3575
02:02:21,230 --> 02:02:21,770
okay.

3576
02:02:22,930 --> 02:02:25,430
Oh Man you just wanted to cash in

3577
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:28,830
on some done some yes all of a

3578
02:02:28,830 --> 02:02:32,450
sudden Strategy can we get a sponsor?

3579
02:02:33,690 --> 02:02:34,650
Collecting fees.

3580
02:02:34,750 --> 02:02:36,830
Can we get this thing sponsored by?

3581
02:02:37,810 --> 02:02:40,190
Now you're talking square space can we get

3582
02:02:40,190 --> 02:02:42,990
sponsored by Squarespace and you can do that

3583
02:02:42,990 --> 02:02:48,270
and row underwriting Whatever you want to call

3584
02:02:48,270 --> 02:02:48,710
it.

3585
02:02:48,830 --> 02:02:50,110
Yes boner pills.

3586
02:02:50,250 --> 02:02:50,970
We can do something.

3587
02:02:51,390 --> 02:02:53,870
There's something in there for us Yeah, that

3588
02:02:53,870 --> 02:02:54,790
would be fine with me.

3589
02:02:54,930 --> 02:02:57,110
Okay, that's what I think is necessary to

3590
02:02:57,110 --> 02:02:58,710
make the event work at all Yeah, because

3591
02:02:58,710 --> 02:03:01,030
we have to have a budget Yeah, so

3592
02:03:01,030 --> 02:03:02,490
you get a budget from the from the

3593
02:03:02,490 --> 02:03:03,110
underwriter.

3594
02:03:03,190 --> 02:03:04,390
We give it away for free I mean

3595
02:03:04,390 --> 02:03:05,430
people get it for free.

3596
02:03:05,490 --> 02:03:08,490
They're just gonna have to You know Yeah,

3597
02:03:08,530 --> 02:03:10,270
no, I can I can I can see

3598
02:03:10,270 --> 02:03:14,150
that's not a problem fastest talker Boom, there's

3599
02:03:14,150 --> 02:03:14,750
Ben Shapiro.

3600
02:03:14,750 --> 02:03:17,350
He's oh, yeah, but then that's yeah Ben

3601
02:03:17,350 --> 02:03:19,370
Shapiro, there's maybe one or that that girl

3602
02:03:19,370 --> 02:03:21,790
that used to work for Ben Shapiro's operation

3603
02:03:21,790 --> 02:03:24,630
She's who sounds and looks like Shapiro that

3604
02:03:24,630 --> 02:03:24,930
girl.

3605
02:03:25,150 --> 02:03:25,290
Yeah.

3606
02:03:25,370 --> 02:03:25,630
Yeah.

3607
02:03:25,710 --> 02:03:28,490
Yeah, she she could win that What's saying?

3608
02:03:28,610 --> 02:03:31,530
I'm selling out Shoe on head needs an

3609
02:03:31,530 --> 02:03:39,730
award Shoe on head Well, I I have

3610
02:03:39,730 --> 02:03:42,290
I have come up with the concept it's

3611
02:03:42,290 --> 02:03:43,910
up to you to take it over the

3612
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:44,030
finish.

3613
02:03:44,090 --> 02:03:45,530
Yeah Well, we'll make it happen.

3614
02:03:45,710 --> 02:03:46,090
Oh, yeah.

3615
02:03:46,130 --> 02:03:46,530
Sure.

3616
02:03:46,590 --> 02:03:49,290
It's Jay's working on the website as we

3617
02:03:49,290 --> 02:03:52,990
speak Well, she could be Getting pretty good

3618
02:03:52,990 --> 02:03:55,430
at that Thank you to these trolls who

3619
02:03:55,430 --> 02:03:58,190
are with us and contributing and nicely by

3620
02:03:58,190 --> 02:04:00,970
the way, every troll gets free entry on

3621
02:04:00,970 --> 02:04:04,070
the website Yeah, we should have the troll

3622
02:04:04,070 --> 02:04:06,730
room just scrolling by during the the Podfather

3623
02:04:06,730 --> 02:04:09,070
Awards Huh, do you do that?

3624
02:04:09,230 --> 02:04:10,210
Yeah, just big screens.

3625
02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:11,830
Are they just saying horrible things?

3626
02:04:12,250 --> 02:04:15,530
Yeah Ben Shapiro comes up Zionist.

3627
02:04:15,730 --> 02:04:21,390
Yeah pig We could get them all I

3628
02:04:21,390 --> 02:04:23,650
think it would be a hootenanny you do

3629
02:04:23,650 --> 02:04:25,290
it in Austin everyone wants to come to

3630
02:04:25,290 --> 02:04:28,050
Austin There's always a flight to Austin You

3631
02:04:28,050 --> 02:04:29,230
do it in Joe's Club.

3632
02:04:29,870 --> 02:04:31,490
I think I think I could get Joe

3633
02:04:31,490 --> 02:04:32,430
to do it I think he would be

3634
02:04:32,430 --> 02:04:34,230
okay with love Joe would do it Let

3635
02:04:34,230 --> 02:04:35,830
the club do it then he wouldn't be

3636
02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:38,110
a problem for him to accept an award.

3637
02:04:38,250 --> 02:04:38,630
No, of course.

3638
02:04:38,870 --> 02:04:39,170
He's there.

3639
02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:41,330
Anyway Yes best comedy podcast.

3640
02:04:41,450 --> 02:04:41,690
Boom.

3641
02:04:41,750 --> 02:04:44,970
There he is He's done Well, it's not

3642
02:04:44,970 --> 02:04:47,850
a comedy podcast best interview show.

3643
02:04:47,930 --> 02:04:50,570
It's listed under comedy, but yeah, he can

3644
02:04:50,570 --> 02:04:52,050
be listening on anything He wants I'm not

3645
02:04:52,050 --> 02:04:53,030
categorizing him.

3646
02:04:53,130 --> 02:04:55,110
Anyway, so I don't watch that show and

3647
02:04:55,110 --> 02:04:58,210
crack up Alex I'll expect a business plan

3648
02:04:58,210 --> 02:05:00,450
by 3 p.m. You you're not getting

3649
02:05:00,450 --> 02:05:04,330
anything by 3 p.m I Thank you

3650
02:05:04,330 --> 02:05:06,290
very much trolls for being with us their

3651
02:05:06,290 --> 02:05:09,610
troll room dot IO No agenda dot stream

3652
02:05:09,610 --> 02:05:12,090
and of course in the modern podcast apps.

3653
02:05:12,150 --> 02:05:13,270
These are the ones you want to get

3654
02:05:13,270 --> 02:05:16,770
The Podfather Awards will only be streamed live

3655
02:05:16,770 --> 02:05:19,110
on the modern podcast apps, of course and

3656
02:05:19,110 --> 02:05:24,910
NBC this fall You can get one of

3657
02:05:24,910 --> 02:05:27,630
those at podcast apps calm and as you

3658
02:05:27,630 --> 02:05:29,550
just heard We're about to sell out from

3659
02:05:29,550 --> 02:05:31,750
our extremely successful model that we've been running

3660
02:05:31,750 --> 02:05:35,570
for over 17 years value for value Although

3661
02:05:35,570 --> 02:05:36,990
I do like the idea of just using

3662
02:05:36,990 --> 02:05:40,010
the whole show as promotion the whole Podfather

3663
02:05:40,010 --> 02:05:41,890
Awards is promotion for no agenda I think

3664
02:05:41,890 --> 02:05:44,730
that's pretty good But then we would have

3665
02:05:44,730 --> 02:05:48,200
to kind of switch the video What?

3666
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,460
Yeah, we do video the awards can be

3667
02:05:51,460 --> 02:05:52,020
videoed.

3668
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:52,260
Yes.

3669
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,100
Yes Yeah, what I'm doing the podcast video.

3670
02:05:55,180 --> 02:05:55,540
No way.

3671
02:05:55,660 --> 02:05:56,120
No, no way.

3672
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:58,680
It's not gonna happen You imagine it would

3673
02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:00,300
be in that same circle jerk.

3674
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:03,120
Although Would let's think of all the podcasts

3675
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:04,200
we could be invited on.

3676
02:06:04,660 --> 02:06:07,500
We finally get on value tainments You can

3677
02:06:07,500 --> 02:06:08,440
get on any time today.

3678
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:09,720
No, that's not true.

3679
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:10,780
No, they don't want me.

3680
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:12,020
They don't like me there.

3681
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:14,000
I can tell Why don't they like you

3682
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:16,600
you think I don't know But everyone's always

3683
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:18,760
saying get curry on get curry on and

3684
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:20,780
they they'll post on X who should we

3685
02:06:20,780 --> 02:06:21,480
get in the book?

3686
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:22,780
Yes, who do you want to see curry?

3687
02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:23,080
Curry?

3688
02:06:23,260 --> 02:06:23,360
Curry?

3689
02:06:23,460 --> 02:06:23,660
Curry?

3690
02:06:23,660 --> 02:06:23,860
Curry?

3691
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:29,120
Devorah Devorah curry curry curry curry never Never

3692
02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:30,280
it's totally valid.

3693
02:06:31,220 --> 02:06:33,980
I'm also baffled that Tucker Carlson hasn't invited

3694
02:06:33,980 --> 02:06:37,460
me Let's see you on Tucker.

3695
02:06:37,900 --> 02:06:41,000
Yes, I do I'm an interesting guy.

3696
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:44,040
I Think Beck go back to Beck Beck

3697
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:45,780
has got a better audience Yeah, but Beck

3698
02:06:45,780 --> 02:06:47,080
wanted me to work for him and I

3699
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:48,980
kind of turned him down So that yes,

3700
02:06:49,060 --> 02:06:51,000
you keep saying that but so what he's

3701
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,100
still like he still thinks you're his brother

3702
02:06:53,100 --> 02:06:54,340
He'll be glad to put you on the

3703
02:06:54,340 --> 02:06:56,600
show Pitch you again.

3704
02:06:57,720 --> 02:06:59,120
I Gotta have an angle man.

3705
02:06:59,260 --> 02:06:59,600
You got it.

3706
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:00,220
He's all it.

3707
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,200
Oh, he just did this whole thing on

3708
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:05,860
AI and Beck's like, you know, this is

3709
02:07:05,860 --> 02:07:06,300
happening.

3710
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:08,280
This is the new God.

3711
02:07:08,420 --> 02:07:09,360
Oh, he's all in on AI.

3712
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:13,380
Oh, he's talks to AI Yeah, I was

3713
02:07:13,380 --> 02:07:13,740
talking.

3714
02:07:13,940 --> 02:07:14,240
Yes.

3715
02:07:14,260 --> 02:07:17,180
He talks to AI Yeah, he really he

3716
02:07:17,180 --> 02:07:19,380
really believes that it's the it's the new

3717
02:07:19,380 --> 02:07:22,940
Gollum You know if you know the story

3718
02:07:22,940 --> 02:07:26,380
of Gollum yeah Gollum mud Yeah, okay.

3719
02:07:26,420 --> 02:07:30,580
Yeah the got the Gollum character Anyway value

3720
02:07:30,580 --> 02:07:31,060
for value.

3721
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:33,260
That's how we continue to roll for as

3722
02:07:33,260 --> 02:07:36,460
long as we can it was definitely shorter

3723
02:07:36,460 --> 02:07:39,680
today than than expected, but you're right, which

3724
02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:42,460
probably because there's no video and And we're

3725
02:07:42,460 --> 02:07:46,360
not talking about all the important stuff You

3726
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:48,680
know, we're not harping on that one thing

3727
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:55,080
like RFK jr.'s blackmail scandal Yeah, because it's

3728
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,300
all bullcrap we don't talk bullcrap that's the

3729
02:07:57,300 --> 02:07:59,340
thing yeah, it's a problem They don't if

3730
02:07:59,340 --> 02:08:01,620
they're not used to getting good material from

3731
02:08:01,620 --> 02:08:04,600
us because we don't talk about Nonsense, I

3732
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:07,180
met a cool guy yesterday in in Fredericksburg.

3733
02:08:07,260 --> 02:08:08,480
I know yeah Saturday.

3734
02:08:08,580 --> 02:08:11,320
Yeah He's gonna do with some work with

3735
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:13,860
me Some development work and and I said,

3736
02:08:13,960 --> 02:08:15,340
well, how long he's 47 how long you've

3737
02:08:15,340 --> 02:08:17,440
been listening says Oh, I've been listening almost

3738
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:19,880
from the beginning, but then I fell overboard

3739
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:21,980
for a long long time I didn't come

3740
02:08:21,980 --> 02:08:23,140
back until 2018.

3741
02:08:23,300 --> 02:08:24,980
Why'd you fall overboard says?

3742
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:27,700
Well, you know I worked in aerospace at

3743
02:08:27,700 --> 02:08:30,380
Space Force for 20 years and when you

3744
02:08:30,380 --> 02:08:32,560
started talking crap about the moon landing I

3745
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:38,300
got upset and I stopped I Wow, I

3746
02:08:38,300 --> 02:08:41,040
had no idea The people got mad about

3747
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:44,380
that and would rage quit That's interesting.

3748
02:08:44,580 --> 02:08:44,800
Yeah.

3749
02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:45,580
Yeah.

3750
02:08:45,820 --> 02:08:48,080
Well Leo Laporte felt the same way.

3751
02:08:48,420 --> 02:08:52,640
Yeah, he still does Time talent to treasure.

3752
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:54,840
That's all we ask in return whatever value

3753
02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:56,960
you receive from this program And I think

3754
02:08:56,960 --> 02:08:58,500
we do deliver the goods we do give

3755
02:08:58,500 --> 02:09:00,400
you value It's definitely not what you're getting

3756
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:03,320
anywhere else and maybe you look smart at

3757
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:06,060
a cocktail party around the water cooler or

3758
02:09:06,060 --> 02:09:07,900
on the company Oh the Monday morning zoom

3759
02:09:07,900 --> 02:09:08,260
meeting.

3760
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:11,260
This thing's this intellectual smart things.

3761
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:13,600
You can say and people will go Wow

3762
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:16,160
I guess you don't read home and habits.

3763
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:16,700
Do you?

3764
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:20,900
and one of the Ways that we always

3765
02:09:20,900 --> 02:09:24,820
enjoy is our artwork from our artists and

3766
02:09:24,820 --> 02:09:27,080
these artists, you know the I've noticed the

3767
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:32,350
artists are Actually tricking us into believing that

3768
02:09:32,350 --> 02:09:35,790
they're doing AI but they're not Just before

3769
02:09:35,790 --> 02:09:38,690
we thank our artists for episode 1750 sir.

3770
02:09:38,750 --> 02:09:43,070
Shug who did flexible eyes on 1749 He

3771
02:09:43,070 --> 02:09:45,570
said Thanks for the props and choosing one

3772
02:09:45,570 --> 02:09:47,570
of my art pieces again just to confirm

3773
02:09:47,570 --> 02:09:51,330
old-school jazzercise artwork was indeed my inspiration

3774
02:09:51,330 --> 02:09:54,030
The listener involved in that original art was

3775
02:09:54,030 --> 02:09:55,710
correct in her assessment I hope it gave

3776
02:09:55,710 --> 02:09:57,310
her a smile but just so you know

3777
02:09:57,310 --> 02:10:03,050
no AI at all in that one if

3778
02:10:03,050 --> 02:10:04,850
I thought anything was AI was gonna be

3779
02:10:04,850 --> 02:10:07,870
that one and So now I'm questioning Nico

3780
02:10:07,870 --> 02:10:10,870
sign because he did a dynamite piece Which

3781
02:10:10,870 --> 02:10:12,910
may and it may not be AI this

3782
02:10:12,910 --> 02:10:15,290
this could just be a well-done piece.

3783
02:10:15,410 --> 02:10:18,610
It was the Liberty Juice I think that's

3784
02:10:18,610 --> 02:10:20,950
the idea So we had a dinner table

3785
02:10:20,950 --> 02:10:24,390
conversation because JC is an AI and talking

3786
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:27,030
about your complaint from the last show mm

3787
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:30,030
-hmm Which one is he could have?

3788
02:10:30,690 --> 02:10:32,630
Sorry, which which complaint there's a lot of

3789
02:10:32,630 --> 02:10:33,010
complaints.

3790
02:10:33,150 --> 02:10:35,310
I have well the main complaint that you

3791
02:10:35,310 --> 02:10:37,090
tried to get a I do some coding

3792
02:10:37,090 --> 02:10:37,530
For you.

3793
02:10:37,730 --> 02:10:39,970
Oh, yes big coding go coding.

3794
02:10:40,370 --> 02:10:42,710
Mm-hmm, and he said that this is

3795
02:10:42,710 --> 02:10:44,750
a known Problem with AI.

3796
02:10:45,370 --> 02:10:47,810
Oh that unless you know what you're doing

3797
02:10:47,810 --> 02:10:50,430
to begin with In other words, you can

3798
02:10:50,430 --> 02:10:52,530
code in the language and you're adept at

3799
02:10:52,530 --> 02:10:52,870
it.

3800
02:10:52,930 --> 02:10:56,410
Hey, I can't do Jack All I can

3801
02:10:56,410 --> 02:10:58,430
do is help you a little bit Mm

3802
02:10:58,430 --> 02:11:00,830
-hmm, and I think is the same thing

3803
02:11:00,830 --> 02:11:03,490
with these artists the guys who are really

3804
02:11:03,490 --> 02:11:06,750
have an artistic temperament that use AI And

3805
02:11:06,750 --> 02:11:08,350
I would put Darren O'Neill in that

3806
02:11:08,350 --> 02:11:12,310
category They know how to prompt they have

3807
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:13,850
a sense of it and they and they

3808
02:11:13,850 --> 02:11:16,070
have a sense of everything and that's artistic

3809
02:11:16,070 --> 02:11:19,490
is Darren O'Neill for some unknown reason

3810
02:11:19,490 --> 02:11:25,210
to us Very artsy guy And so and

3811
02:11:25,210 --> 02:11:27,230
other artists a scare among is a good

3812
02:11:27,230 --> 02:11:30,070
example There's others that know how to pray

3813
02:11:30,070 --> 02:11:32,250
scare among you can do He can do

3814
02:11:32,250 --> 02:11:34,370
animation in AI to the point where it's

3815
02:11:34,370 --> 02:11:37,830
attracted brunetti Yes I know and so we

3816
02:11:37,830 --> 02:11:40,390
have it's the same thing if you if

3817
02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:41,990
you do I I can do some AI

3818
02:11:41,990 --> 02:11:44,530
stuff with the art but I can't do

3819
02:11:44,530 --> 02:11:47,010
anything compared to I mean compared to what

3820
02:11:47,010 --> 02:11:50,350
Darren can do because he's More of an

3821
02:11:50,350 --> 02:11:51,990
artist than I am so and it's the

3822
02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:54,270
same thing with coding so that was his

3823
02:11:54,270 --> 02:11:54,910
comment Okay.

3824
02:11:55,050 --> 02:11:57,150
Well, so then then the the promise of

3825
02:11:57,150 --> 02:11:59,590
AI is bullcrap is what you're saying So

3826
02:11:59,590 --> 02:12:01,510
unless you can actually write a book AI

3827
02:12:01,510 --> 02:12:02,930
won't be able to write a book for

3828
02:12:02,930 --> 02:12:06,090
you Exactly, and if you can't do art

3829
02:12:06,090 --> 02:12:08,030
a I can't do art for you Okay

3830
02:12:08,030 --> 02:12:09,970
Now the exception of this may be comic

3831
02:12:09,970 --> 02:12:13,750
strip blogger But chemistry blogger maybe is an

3832
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:15,870
artist in some way and he could and

3833
02:12:15,870 --> 02:12:18,190
he just got pretty adept at using the

3834
02:12:18,190 --> 02:12:21,370
prompts Because he has a I but art

3835
02:12:25,890 --> 02:12:28,110
And he gets a I to do it,

3836
02:12:28,110 --> 02:12:30,250
I mean that's a special he's a but

3837
02:12:30,250 --> 02:12:34,130
expert, okay That was kind of the point

3838
02:12:34,130 --> 02:12:37,670
so it's an augmentation rather than okay origin

3839
02:12:37,670 --> 02:12:41,530
originate augmentation not origination Oh, so is that

3840
02:12:41,530 --> 02:12:44,150
really worth a hundred billion dollars per company

3841
02:12:44,150 --> 02:12:44,370
then?

3842
02:12:44,750 --> 02:12:45,010
Of course?

3843
02:12:45,210 --> 02:12:45,450
No.

3844
02:12:45,450 --> 02:12:45,850
Okay.

3845
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:48,050
Thank you Too late now.

3846
02:12:48,870 --> 02:12:51,330
No, you wait and the data centers scams

3847
02:12:51,330 --> 02:12:56,790
fall on her part So We thank who

3848
02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:57,670
are we thinking again?

3849
02:12:57,870 --> 02:12:58,930
We were saying go sign.

3850
02:12:59,130 --> 02:12:59,550
He go sign.

3851
02:12:59,730 --> 02:13:02,470
Yes for his artwork there now we both

3852
02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:05,890
liked Tante Neal's splash, but we kind of

3853
02:13:05,890 --> 02:13:09,910
really wanted that for a title and It

3854
02:13:09,910 --> 02:13:11,390
was I didn't think the art was that

3855
02:13:11,390 --> 02:13:14,570
compelling you you really like Darren O'Neill's

3856
02:13:14,570 --> 02:13:18,010
it freedom sap Well, yes, it way with

3857
02:13:18,010 --> 02:13:21,390
the ultimate choice came between Liberty juice from

3858
02:13:21,390 --> 02:13:25,170
Nico's I'm or freedom SAP From Darren O

3859
02:13:25,170 --> 02:13:27,570
'Neill and I even like the fact that

3860
02:13:27,570 --> 02:13:32,030
he had a better can Description the taste

3861
02:13:32,030 --> 02:13:35,050
of freedom 33 ounces versus Nico's I'm just

3862
02:13:35,050 --> 02:13:38,190
had 12 ounces on there But you have

3863
02:13:38,190 --> 02:13:39,330
a problem with SAP.

3864
02:13:39,430 --> 02:13:42,750
You just don't like SAP I thought SAP

3865
02:13:42,750 --> 02:13:45,890
as a associative word and anyone who listens

3866
02:13:45,890 --> 02:13:47,650
to no agenda shouldn't be seen as a

3867
02:13:47,650 --> 02:13:49,970
SAP And I was gonna use it.

3868
02:13:50,090 --> 02:13:50,690
That's take.

3869
02:13:50,910 --> 02:13:51,370
Yeah far.

3870
02:13:51,470 --> 02:13:51,910
Okay.

3871
02:13:52,070 --> 02:13:54,870
Sorry And so I was thinking of using

3872
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:56,130
it when I could use for the newsletter

3873
02:13:56,130 --> 02:13:58,650
because it's very attractive But then again, then

3874
02:13:58,650 --> 02:14:01,190
I saw this little screaming Mimi thing by

3875
02:14:01,190 --> 02:14:01,690
dr.

3876
02:14:01,810 --> 02:14:04,750
Kelly Yeah, and I said that I just

3877
02:14:04,750 --> 02:14:05,950
saw that image.

3878
02:14:06,070 --> 02:14:07,090
I don't know if that was a I

3879
02:14:07,090 --> 02:14:10,810
or not, but it's just the screaming Liberal

3880
02:14:10,810 --> 02:14:12,850
is I mean, I just say that I

3881
02:14:12,850 --> 02:14:14,130
had to use that so I ended up

3882
02:14:14,130 --> 02:14:16,230
using that by the way just on that

3883
02:14:17,250 --> 02:14:20,130
on that idea of it being a tool

3884
02:14:20,130 --> 02:14:25,470
so many people believe That they know how

3885
02:14:25,470 --> 02:14:27,310
to write a song and they go into

3886
02:14:27,310 --> 02:14:30,150
AI and then they say AI write a

3887
02:14:30,150 --> 02:14:31,970
song They might give some lyrics or a

3888
02:14:31,970 --> 02:14:33,790
snippet of lyrics and then they send it

3889
02:14:33,790 --> 02:14:35,230
to me and say this is the best

3890
02:14:35,230 --> 02:14:39,290
song ever It's always a country song I'd

3891
02:14:39,290 --> 02:14:41,550
say 90% of all why is that

3892
02:14:41,550 --> 02:14:43,250
by the way that's I've heard I've noticed

3893
02:14:43,250 --> 02:14:45,370
this too Because the least people in the

3894
02:14:45,370 --> 02:14:47,590
world understand what a good country song is

3895
02:14:47,590 --> 02:14:50,070
the most people will think oh, that's great

3896
02:14:51,190 --> 02:14:56,310
That's my feeling behind it And the most

3897
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:57,890
people will know what a good hip-hop

3898
02:14:57,890 --> 02:15:00,490
song is and and and it's all atrocious

3899
02:15:00,490 --> 02:15:03,470
it's no good and people just because it's

3900
02:15:03,470 --> 02:15:05,410
in tune and it rhymes and it comes

3901
02:15:05,410 --> 02:15:07,850
up with a Chorus be like this song

3902
02:15:07,850 --> 02:15:11,650
is the best This is actually killing Spotify.

3903
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:14,890
Well the inverse Spotify is making tons of

3904
02:15:14,890 --> 02:15:19,790
money There's you know hundreds of artists amazingly

3905
02:15:19,790 --> 02:15:23,290
in Sweden Who are just flooding this so

3906
02:15:23,290 --> 02:15:25,330
the whole business on Spotify is playlists.

3907
02:15:25,510 --> 02:15:27,610
You have to get on a popular playlist

3908
02:15:27,610 --> 02:15:30,070
That's that's how you get a hit and

3909
02:15:30,070 --> 02:15:31,290
you can buy your position.

3910
02:15:31,290 --> 02:15:33,670
It starts at five thousand dollars and these

3911
02:15:33,670 --> 02:15:35,250
playlist makers They know what they're doing.

3912
02:15:35,290 --> 02:15:38,190
They know how to make playlists And Spotify

3913
02:15:38,190 --> 02:15:39,710
promotes the playlists.

3914
02:15:39,810 --> 02:15:41,250
It's all incestuous.

3915
02:15:41,410 --> 02:15:44,530
Believe me So now Spotify has is promoting

3916
02:15:44,530 --> 02:15:45,490
all these different play.

3917
02:15:45,570 --> 02:15:49,270
Oh sleep at night a soft jazz piano

3918
02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:53,510
jazz Classical and it's all a I generated

3919
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:57,550
muck and and because it's a I generated

3920
02:15:57,550 --> 02:16:00,250
muck They take all the money from it.

3921
02:16:00,290 --> 02:16:01,770
They don't have to give it to the

3922
02:16:01,770 --> 02:16:04,250
To the music publishers anyone.

3923
02:16:04,490 --> 02:16:07,810
Yeah And it's I I think it's going

3924
02:16:07,810 --> 02:16:09,430
to be it's a very dark road.

3925
02:16:09,550 --> 02:16:11,930
They've taken by doing this now people are

3926
02:16:11,930 --> 02:16:14,630
starting to notice Yeah, cuz it's our road

3927
02:16:14,630 --> 02:16:19,910
to the bank No, yeah, we'll see Anyway

3928
02:16:19,910 --> 02:16:22,070
was anything else we needed to mention I

3929
02:16:22,070 --> 02:16:23,030
kind of like that.

3930
02:16:23,130 --> 02:16:24,350
I like the boomer pills.

3931
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:27,410
It wasn't good enough for art By also

3932
02:16:27,410 --> 02:16:31,610
Nikos I'm Nikos comic-strip bloggers Liberty Juice

3933
02:16:31,610 --> 02:16:34,350
can I thought that was pretty good Yeah

3934
02:16:34,930 --> 02:16:36,150
Didn't tickle my fancy.

3935
02:16:36,670 --> 02:16:38,510
No, I didn't recommend it.

3936
02:16:38,590 --> 02:16:42,010
You like signal trap Well, I said it

3937
02:16:42,010 --> 02:16:42,750
was interesting.

3938
02:16:42,830 --> 02:16:45,790
But this the signal it had to be

3939
02:16:45,790 --> 02:16:48,049
blue It had to look more like a

3940
02:16:48,049 --> 02:16:48,209
sick.

3941
02:16:48,270 --> 02:16:50,049
It was it was too obscure too obscure.

3942
02:16:50,230 --> 02:16:50,350
Sir.

3943
02:16:50,370 --> 02:16:51,190
Shug did that one?

3944
02:16:52,370 --> 02:16:53,709
Anyway, thank you Nikos.

3945
02:16:53,809 --> 02:16:54,750
I'm good work.

3946
02:16:54,969 --> 02:16:56,930
Thank you We appreciate it and we appreciate

3947
02:16:56,930 --> 02:16:59,070
it what everybody does to support the show

3948
02:16:59,070 --> 02:17:00,790
because that is actual money in the bank

3949
02:17:00,790 --> 02:17:02,270
for us money We don't have to spend

3950
02:17:02,270 --> 02:17:06,610
on on doing these types of things But

3951
02:17:06,610 --> 02:17:10,070
we do need to pay bills strangely enough

3952
02:17:10,770 --> 02:17:12,910
so for that we thank all of our

3953
02:17:12,910 --> 02:17:15,330
financial supporters who delivered value back to the

3954
02:17:15,330 --> 02:17:18,330
show $50 and above and we Like to

3955
02:17:18,330 --> 02:17:20,490
give a special thanks to our executive and

3956
02:17:20,490 --> 02:17:23,090
associate executive producers These are the ones who

3957
02:17:23,090 --> 02:17:24,990
come in $200 or above now if you

3958
02:17:24,990 --> 02:17:27,190
do that you get an associate executive producer

3959
02:17:27,190 --> 02:17:28,370
credit Just like Hollywood.

3960
02:17:28,370 --> 02:17:30,469
In fact go to IMDB comm you can

3961
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:33,469
see many Hollywood bigwigs like Dana Brunetti known

3962
02:17:33,469 --> 02:17:35,350
from Fifty Shades of Grey and Fifty Shades

3963
02:17:35,350 --> 02:17:40,129
of Grey and and Grand Turismo and house

3964
02:17:40,129 --> 02:17:40,730
of cards.

3965
02:17:40,850 --> 02:17:42,309
I mean, no, it's no lightweight.

3966
02:17:42,350 --> 02:17:44,870
There's no non-ending non-ending.

3967
02:17:45,110 --> 02:17:48,090
That's right And we'll read your note $300

3968
02:17:48,090 --> 02:17:50,490
or above you get an executive producer credit

3969
02:17:50,490 --> 02:17:52,410
and we'll read your note and we kick

3970
02:17:52,410 --> 02:17:55,070
it off with Commodore Mech That is because

3971
02:17:55,070 --> 02:17:59,370
he becomes a Commodore today, I believe No,

3972
02:17:59,410 --> 02:17:59,770
maybe not.

3973
02:17:59,850 --> 02:18:01,330
He was all was he already a Commodore?

3974
02:18:01,570 --> 02:18:03,170
Let me just check for a second Yeah,

3975
02:18:03,350 --> 02:18:05,070
I think is today I could be wrong.

3976
02:18:05,209 --> 02:18:06,430
Let me I can double check.

3977
02:18:06,549 --> 02:18:08,650
Yes I mean, he was no no, he

3978
02:18:08,650 --> 02:18:10,690
wants to be knighted, but he becomes a

3979
02:18:10,690 --> 02:18:11,250
Commodore today.

3980
02:18:11,350 --> 02:18:13,030
So I already gave hundred I mean, whatever

3981
02:18:13,030 --> 02:18:14,690
it is Commodore and a knight.

3982
02:18:14,770 --> 02:18:17,430
He's from Cherry Hill, New Jersey home of

3983
02:18:17,430 --> 02:18:20,490
Eddie Murphy And comes in with $500 and

3984
02:18:20,490 --> 02:18:23,129
says karma, please I finally looked over my

3985
02:18:23,129 --> 02:18:25,709
previous donations and with this donation I have

3986
02:18:25,709 --> 02:18:28,389
surpassed 1,000 that is the magic level

3987
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:30,750
that means not only would become a Commodore

3988
02:18:30,750 --> 02:18:32,430
the no agenda show But also a knight

3989
02:18:32,430 --> 02:18:34,110
of the no agenda roundtable and we will

3990
02:18:34,110 --> 02:18:36,209
knight you sir Mech later on and he

3991
02:18:36,209 --> 02:18:37,190
asks for a karma.

3992
02:18:37,490 --> 02:18:38,330
Here it comes.

3993
02:18:38,490 --> 02:18:43,549
You've got karma Then we go to Poland

3994
02:18:43,549 --> 02:18:44,910
of all places and sir.

3995
02:18:44,969 --> 02:18:47,870
Mark comes in from Poland 500 bucks Wow

3996
02:18:47,870 --> 02:18:49,889
He's in Warsaw as a matter of fact,

3997
02:18:49,950 --> 02:18:53,190
he wants to be a commander Commodore is

3998
02:18:53,190 --> 02:18:56,490
what you're gonna get just sending karma to

3999
02:18:56,490 --> 02:18:56,910
everybody.

4000
02:18:56,910 --> 02:18:57,870
So you put a karma.

4001
02:18:57,990 --> 02:19:02,870
All right, you've got karma Eric Kessler is

4002
02:19:02,870 --> 02:19:06,070
in Kansas City, Missouri 350 and 93 cents

4003
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:07,530
must be with some fees out of there.

4004
02:19:07,610 --> 02:19:07,910
Thank you.

4005
02:19:07,969 --> 02:19:10,389
John Adam for your courage It's provided me

4006
02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:13,450
with a better education than all my years

4007
02:19:13,450 --> 02:19:17,770
of higher education Cheers, how about that?

4008
02:19:18,030 --> 02:19:21,150
We don't have video But we do deliver

4009
02:19:21,150 --> 02:19:24,309
some value proof right there That's because we're

4010
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:25,870
a actual podcast.

4011
02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:29,510
Yes, we are podcast Indy No agenda meetup

4012
02:19:29,510 --> 02:19:32,309
comes in from Greenwood, Indiana They sent a

4013
02:19:32,309 --> 02:19:34,250
note in and the check and three hundred

4014
02:19:34,250 --> 02:19:36,730
thirty three dollars and they with the raffle

4015
02:19:37,389 --> 02:19:39,830
Witcher ooh, mm-hmm, and this one goes

4016
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:45,030
to sir ripper Sir ripper ripoff ripoff ripoff.

4017
02:19:45,190 --> 02:19:45,830
Oh, that's what it is.

4018
02:19:45,889 --> 02:19:46,350
Sorry, sir.

4019
02:19:46,450 --> 02:19:49,610
Rip off the maple No note, so double

4020
02:19:49,610 --> 02:19:50,370
up the karma.

4021
02:19:50,470 --> 02:19:52,210
All right, we shall do that right away

4022
02:19:52,210 --> 02:19:53,050
double up karma.

4023
02:19:53,070 --> 02:20:00,450
You've got Karma Executive producers where we always

4024
02:20:00,450 --> 02:20:02,570
find some favorites Eli the coffee guy from

4025
02:20:02,570 --> 02:20:06,610
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4026
02:20:06,610 --> 02:20:08,410
I recommended no agenda to a buddy and

4027
02:20:08,410 --> 02:20:10,830
explained how the show is about media deconstruction

4028
02:20:10,830 --> 02:20:14,210
His response was well that must keep those

4029
02:20:14,210 --> 02:20:16,610
guys busy 16 plus hours a day with

4030
02:20:16,610 --> 02:20:21,770
all the BS out there Correct Yes Thank

4031
02:20:21,770 --> 02:20:23,730
you John and Adam for your courage and

4032
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4039
02:20:44,530 --> 02:20:48,490
in Mesa, Arizona $200 her donations were really

4040
02:20:48,490 --> 02:20:49,450
bad last show.

4041
02:20:49,710 --> 02:20:52,130
Yeah Yeah, I can hit this show to

4042
02:20:52,130 --> 02:20:57,070
consider this my reparation donation for listening We're

4043
02:20:57,070 --> 02:20:59,130
listening for a couple of years, but never

4044
02:20:59,130 --> 02:20:59,690
donating.

4045
02:21:00,350 --> 02:21:00,490
Thanks.

4046
02:21:00,610 --> 02:21:05,610
It was easy douching You've been D douche

4047
02:21:05,610 --> 02:21:08,170
Thanks for your hard work of providing an

4048
02:21:08,170 --> 02:21:11,450
excellent product I've heard bits and pieces but

4049
02:21:11,450 --> 02:21:14,230
would love to hear the origin story of

4050
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:17,050
how you two started the show Many years

4051
02:21:17,050 --> 02:21:18,670
ago where there is an episode out there

4052
02:21:18,670 --> 02:21:20,630
that does this is episode 200.

4053
02:21:20,850 --> 02:21:24,610
I don't know it 100 100.5 200

4054
02:21:24,610 --> 02:21:27,730
100.5. No, we had 100 point 100

4055
02:21:27,730 --> 02:21:31,610
100.5. I Thought we've done these many

4056
02:21:31,610 --> 02:21:32,050
times.

4057
02:21:32,170 --> 02:21:33,470
No, I know I but I thought it

4058
02:21:33,470 --> 02:21:35,790
was 200 point 1 point 2 point 3

4059
02:21:35,790 --> 02:21:41,650
point 4 point 5 it's real simple That's

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02:21:41,650 --> 02:21:44,450
where you that's where you explain it Well,

4061
02:21:44,490 --> 02:21:46,250
anyway, we have that not going to explain

4062
02:21:46,250 --> 02:21:47,870
it people should listen to that episode.

4063
02:21:48,010 --> 02:21:52,330
Yeah, I'll I think it's either 100 or

4064
02:21:52,330 --> 02:21:52,750
200.

4065
02:21:53,310 --> 02:21:55,090
No 100 is when I quit.

4066
02:21:55,450 --> 02:21:56,190
That's right.

4067
02:21:56,670 --> 02:21:58,490
Oh, that's right You quit at 100 200

4068
02:21:58,490 --> 02:22:01,050
that we did this 200 point 5 200

4069
02:22:01,050 --> 02:22:03,250
point 5 is what everyone says 200 point

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02:22:03,250 --> 02:22:03,630
5.

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02:22:03,830 --> 02:22:05,610
Yeah Okay, it's always right to begin.

4072
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:06,990
You are you're always right.

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I am.

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Yep see podcast awards Podfather awards my father

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now you're Podfather awards, it's the official podfather

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call it the parties Ladies and gentlemen, please.

4078
02:22:24,590 --> 02:22:28,770
Welcome to the stage John C You come

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out in your tuxedo Everyone's hooting and hollering

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with chicks with chicks John babes One on

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Perfect.

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Yeah, that's where you do it.

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Yep All right, you're up with no he

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didn't he didn't finish I didn't know thanks

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for all your hard work providing an excellent

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product I've heard of bits and pieces, but

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love to hear the origin story how you

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started the show We just talked about that

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many years ago.

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Cheers Cheers, right.

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Cheers Justine in Plainville, Connecticut were at the

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at the end here almost $200 dear Adam

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and John I've been listening to the show

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of later on in our second half.

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Thank you so much.

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Okay here.

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02:25:13,930 --> 02:25:14,490
Let me get up.

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02:25:14,990 --> 02:25:19,350
Oh And That ladies and gentlemen is the

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kind of comedy you can expect at the

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Podfather Awards at the mothership in Austin So,

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you know, there's a nut that I don't

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02:25:30,670 --> 02:25:32,830
know who this guy's aware of what's going

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02:25:32,830 --> 02:25:35,410
on, but Macron seems to be going nuts

4147
02:25:35,970 --> 02:25:39,390
Yeah I've noticed that well, you know, I've

4148
02:25:39,390 --> 02:25:40,670
got he's married to a dude.

4149
02:25:40,830 --> 02:25:43,790
So that's part of the problem And Candace

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02:25:43,790 --> 02:25:46,510
Owens is not letting up on it No,

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02:25:46,570 --> 02:25:47,830
this is her main thing.

4152
02:25:47,850 --> 02:25:50,890
Mm-hmm She also thinks Schumer's married to

4153
02:25:50,890 --> 02:25:51,310
a dude.

4154
02:25:51,390 --> 02:25:54,450
Oh Wait, but has she said yet that

4155
02:25:54,450 --> 02:25:57,430
mother Teresa was Fauci's mom and that she's

4156
02:25:57,430 --> 02:25:59,370
a dude because that that is the best

4157
02:25:59,370 --> 02:26:01,550
one I've heard No, I have not heard

4158
02:26:01,550 --> 02:26:04,950
that way it's Exclusive right here on the

4159
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:07,170
show Let's play a couple of clips.

4160
02:26:07,290 --> 02:26:10,530
I got the France China climate crap from

4161
02:26:10,530 --> 02:26:14,050
NHK Okay, let's do that China says it

4162
02:26:14,050 --> 02:26:17,170
has agreed to bolster cooperation with France in

4163
02:26:17,170 --> 02:26:21,310
maintaining multilateralism in global trade and Combating climate

4164
02:26:21,310 --> 02:26:23,710
change the two sides met on Thursday in

4165
02:26:23,710 --> 02:26:27,490
Beijing against the backdrop of Washington's America first

4166
02:26:27,490 --> 02:26:30,070
policy Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and his

4167
02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:33,110
French counterpart Jean-Noel Barra issued a joint

4168
02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:36,170
statement marking the 10th anniversary of the Paris

4169
02:26:36,170 --> 02:26:39,730
Agreement on climate change the Responsibility of our

4170
02:26:39,730 --> 02:26:43,290
two countries is also to jointly propose Solutions

4171
02:26:43,290 --> 02:26:46,190
to global challenges as we did ten years

4172
02:26:46,190 --> 02:26:48,730
ago to contribute to the conclusion of the

4173
02:26:48,730 --> 02:26:53,150
Paris climate agreement The two sides of China

4174
02:26:53,150 --> 02:26:55,310
and Europe should insist on being mutually beneficial

4175
02:26:55,310 --> 02:26:57,430
and win-win partners and open up new

4176
02:26:57,430 --> 02:27:00,590
prospects for bilateral cooperation by properly resolving the

4177
02:27:00,590 --> 02:27:03,610
specific problems that exist through Consultation in an

4178
02:27:03,610 --> 02:27:06,170
apparent reference to Trump's decision to pull the

4179
02:27:06,170 --> 02:27:08,470
u.s out of the Paris Accord the

4180
02:27:08,470 --> 02:27:11,550
statement says the regression of certain countries from

4181
02:27:11,550 --> 02:27:15,930
scientific consensus and their withdrawal from Multilateral institutions

4182
02:27:15,930 --> 02:27:20,090
will only strengthen our determination and actions Well,

4183
02:27:20,210 --> 02:27:20,990
there's more money.

4184
02:27:21,110 --> 02:27:23,670
You can spend don't I don't I recall

4185
02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:28,250
that when China joined the Paris Accords that

4186
02:27:28,250 --> 02:27:29,910
they said yeah, we're gonna do all this

4187
02:27:29,910 --> 02:27:32,990
and that the other in 2035 Yeah, some

4188
02:27:32,990 --> 02:27:35,050
more 20 30 or 20 35 and they

4189
02:27:35,050 --> 02:27:36,330
said that's when it's gonna happen.

4190
02:27:36,810 --> 02:27:38,530
And so what is the deal?

4191
02:27:39,350 --> 02:27:41,550
Did you get away with that forever this

4192
02:27:41,550 --> 02:27:43,530
bullcrap that you're just oh, yeah, we're all

4193
02:27:43,530 --> 02:27:46,990
in but in 2030 Yeah, because the no

4194
02:27:46,990 --> 02:27:48,630
one cares because they're all in it for

4195
02:27:48,630 --> 02:27:50,710
the money even Al Gore there's he's back

4196
02:27:50,710 --> 02:27:52,450
again He's running around.

4197
02:27:52,570 --> 02:27:53,610
Is it too late?

4198
02:27:54,130 --> 02:27:55,090
Vice-president Gore.

4199
02:27:55,350 --> 02:27:57,150
Well, no, it's never too late.

4200
02:27:57,270 --> 02:27:58,650
No, I'd be out of a job.

4201
02:27:58,750 --> 02:28:00,210
It was too late It's not too late.

4202
02:28:00,290 --> 02:28:01,670
But you know, it's a lot of damage

4203
02:28:01,670 --> 02:28:06,250
has been done And so here's Macron going

4204
02:28:06,250 --> 02:28:08,390
on and on about Ukraine now trying to

4205
02:28:08,390 --> 02:28:12,270
set up shop French president Emmanuel Macron says

4206
02:28:12,270 --> 02:28:15,510
a Franco British delegation will soon visit Ukraine

4207
02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:17,970
to plan for the deployment of What are

4208
02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:20,370
you called a reassurance force?

4209
02:28:21,150 --> 02:28:25,610
the troops role Reassurance force I gotta write

4210
02:28:25,610 --> 02:28:26,150
that down.

4211
02:28:26,590 --> 02:28:28,050
What does that even mean?

4212
02:28:28,850 --> 02:28:34,630
I Have to mean anything Reassurance force Plan

4213
02:28:34,630 --> 02:28:37,190
for the deployment of what he called a

4214
02:28:37,190 --> 02:28:41,210
reassurance force The troops role would be to

4215
02:28:41,210 --> 02:28:45,210
guarantee an eventual ceasefire with Russia Macron hosted

4216
02:28:45,210 --> 02:28:47,910
the summit of leaders of about 30 nations

4217
02:28:47,910 --> 02:28:51,290
and organizations in Paris on Thursday to discuss

4218
02:28:51,290 --> 02:28:56,130
support for Ukraine Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky also

4219
02:28:56,130 --> 02:28:59,950
attended Macron told reporters after a meeting the

4220
02:28:59,950 --> 02:29:03,870
participants unanimously agreed The time was not right

4221
02:29:03,870 --> 02:29:07,030
to lift sanctions on Moscow White House officials

4222
02:29:07,030 --> 02:29:10,490
said Tuesday Washington had agreed in separate talks

4223
02:29:10,490 --> 02:29:13,790
with Moscow and Kyiv that safe Navigation will

4224
02:29:13,790 --> 02:29:16,450
be insured in the Black Sea and the

4225
02:29:16,450 --> 02:29:18,950
use of force would end in those waters

4226
02:29:18,950 --> 02:29:22,810
But Russia has insisted some sanctions must be

4227
02:29:22,810 --> 02:29:26,950
lifted before the agreement can take effect Speaking

4228
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:30,390
after the Paris summit Zelensky said Russian President

4229
02:29:30,390 --> 02:29:33,270
Vladimir Putin is not ready for direct negotiations

4230
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:36,970
The Ukrainian leader added that he's ready for

4231
02:29:36,970 --> 02:29:43,990
negotiations in any format Force Armies, no, it

4232
02:29:43,990 --> 02:29:48,450
would be a force reassure our maze reassurance

4233
02:29:49,630 --> 02:29:54,230
This doesn't sound right reassurance of what a

4234
02:29:54,230 --> 02:29:57,770
force We're gonna reassure that we have for

4235
02:29:57,770 --> 02:30:01,570
I don't know reassurance It sounds like something

4236
02:30:01,570 --> 02:30:08,730
Warren Buffett sells That's reassure our reassurance I

4237
02:30:08,730 --> 02:30:12,210
came across a crazy ad that I'd like

4238
02:30:12,210 --> 02:30:17,570
to share with you and it just Yeah,

4239
02:30:17,690 --> 02:30:20,030
and I guess it comes on the heels

4240
02:30:20,030 --> 02:30:22,610
of you know What is a producer who

4241
02:30:22,610 --> 02:30:25,250
I donated too late for today's show send

4242
02:30:25,250 --> 02:30:26,510
me a really long note Did you see

4243
02:30:26,510 --> 02:30:27,710
that note come in by any chance?

4244
02:30:27,710 --> 02:30:28,890
I'm sorry.

4245
02:30:28,970 --> 02:30:31,650
What a producer sent a really long note

4246
02:30:31,650 --> 02:30:35,710
That came in too late for today's show.

4247
02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:38,190
I didn't see it and it was about

4248
02:30:38,970 --> 02:30:43,130
pharma advertising Yeah, and I'm gonna see if

4249
02:30:43,130 --> 02:30:48,790
I can find it real quick Hmm the

4250
02:30:48,790 --> 02:30:56,130
crux was Please stop talking about RFK Removing

4251
02:30:56,130 --> 02:31:00,090
pharma advertising Why should we stop talking about

4252
02:31:00,090 --> 02:31:02,510
because that's gonna kill my business.

4253
02:31:03,210 --> 02:31:04,450
Oh Well, what's it got?

4254
02:31:04,930 --> 02:31:06,470
We're not working for him.

4255
02:31:06,510 --> 02:31:08,650
Does he send us enough money that well,

4256
02:31:08,670 --> 02:31:13,170
he's talking about this Get on that Linda

4257
02:31:13,170 --> 02:31:17,650
Lou packing train Well, you know it says

4258
02:31:17,650 --> 02:31:20,310
this is one of the biggest businesses it's

4259
02:31:20,310 --> 02:31:23,690
so much money for people who are Advertising

4260
02:31:23,690 --> 02:31:26,690
creatives That is it's going to it's going

4261
02:31:26,690 --> 02:31:27,810
to kill their industry.

4262
02:31:28,150 --> 02:31:31,330
What but that's just the advertising industry There's

4263
02:31:31,330 --> 02:31:33,350
other things that need advertising.

4264
02:31:33,350 --> 02:31:35,270
Well, no one wants to lose their job.

4265
02:31:35,370 --> 02:31:37,150
Let's understand that but well I know but

4266
02:31:37,150 --> 02:31:38,530
why would you lose your job if you

4267
02:31:38,530 --> 02:31:40,830
lose it's called losing an account Well, but

4268
02:31:40,830 --> 02:31:42,590
it's the biggest accounts that the point of

4269
02:31:42,590 --> 02:31:44,730
the the producers was the biggest account.

4270
02:31:44,870 --> 02:31:45,970
There you go Now you're talking.

4271
02:31:46,130 --> 02:31:47,090
It's the biggest accounts.

4272
02:31:47,270 --> 02:31:50,270
Yeah, so you guys don't talk negative about

4273
02:31:50,270 --> 02:31:53,550
coca-cola and Pepsi Which are other big

4274
02:31:53,550 --> 02:31:55,730
accounts said we don't that's correct.

4275
02:31:55,790 --> 02:31:57,810
We should you know that did you know

4276
02:31:57,810 --> 02:31:58,610
there was a whole?

4277
02:31:59,650 --> 02:32:03,730
Influencer campaign for for for sugary drinks that

4278
02:32:03,730 --> 02:32:08,130
a whole bunch of Right-wing influencers were

4279
02:32:08,130 --> 02:32:11,410
on the money train for No, tell me

4280
02:32:11,410 --> 02:32:11,810
about it.

4281
02:32:11,890 --> 02:32:12,090
Yeah.

4282
02:32:12,310 --> 02:32:12,510
Yeah.

4283
02:32:12,650 --> 02:32:14,590
Well another thing we missed out on because

4284
02:32:14,590 --> 02:32:18,030
we're Because we're legit because we're legit there

4285
02:32:18,030 --> 02:32:20,730
are people apologizing like oh, I'm sorry It

4286
02:32:20,730 --> 02:32:22,690
was because you know, they're talking about taking

4287
02:32:22,690 --> 02:32:25,970
sugary drinks off of snap And so then

4288
02:32:25,970 --> 02:32:29,330
there's some genius in in sugary drink land,

4289
02:32:29,410 --> 02:32:31,430
which could either be coca-cola or PepsiCo

4290
02:32:31,430 --> 02:32:33,390
I know there's much more came up with

4291
02:32:33,390 --> 02:32:35,170
an idea I know what we'll do we

4292
02:32:35,170 --> 02:32:37,090
had a bunch of those mega people to

4293
02:32:37,090 --> 02:32:39,170
to talk positive and say oh don't take

4294
02:32:39,170 --> 02:32:40,470
that off snap It's good.

4295
02:32:40,610 --> 02:32:43,990
It's good for children And they got paid

4296
02:32:43,990 --> 02:32:45,970
and they got paid and good money apparently

4297
02:32:46,570 --> 02:32:48,950
Anyway, I think there's my my point would

4298
02:32:48,950 --> 02:32:51,110
be I think there's plenty of room for

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Imagination and creativity in advertising have a listen

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02:33:30,690 --> 02:33:32,970
go behind the scenes of Kohler's partnership with

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02:33:32,970 --> 02:33:37,030
creative director Laura Kim at Kohler calm I'm

4314
02:33:37,030 --> 02:33:38,890
telling you when the runway model came down

4315
02:33:38,890 --> 02:33:39,290
the runway.

4316
02:33:39,490 --> 02:33:41,870
Did anyone try to jiggle her handle there?

4317
02:33:41,970 --> 02:33:44,510
It is I was waiting for something That's

4318
02:33:44,510 --> 02:33:45,230
very creative.

4319
02:33:45,310 --> 02:33:47,250
How do we do an ad for a

4320
02:33:47,250 --> 02:33:49,370
smart toilet, and now I want one of

4321
02:33:49,370 --> 02:33:52,290
these a Smart toilet yeah, why not it

4322
02:33:52,290 --> 02:33:54,690
has it has everybody's got one, but me.

4323
02:33:54,810 --> 02:33:56,610
I don't have a smart toilet I'm Doug

4324
02:33:56,610 --> 02:33:57,910
Horowitz has got one.

4325
02:33:58,030 --> 02:33:58,590
He's got a smart.

4326
02:33:58,750 --> 02:34:00,330
He's got a couple of them They got

4327
02:34:00,330 --> 02:34:02,050
what it what are these smart toilets do

4328
02:34:02,050 --> 02:34:04,330
but when you walk in the bathroom the

4329
02:34:04,330 --> 02:34:09,050
toilet opens up and greets you Anyway, wait

4330
02:34:09,050 --> 02:34:10,370
does it look does it do like this

4331
02:34:10,370 --> 02:34:11,590
you are being recorded.

4332
02:34:11,850 --> 02:34:13,570
Let's do one of those and not yet

4333
02:34:16,750 --> 02:34:22,390
Kohler smart toilets really How come everyone oh,

4334
02:34:22,470 --> 02:34:24,730
well I see what they're talking about this

4335
02:34:24,730 --> 02:34:26,930
is some it looks like a box that

4336
02:34:26,930 --> 02:34:35,090
you poop Exactly it's a box you It's

4337
02:34:35,090 --> 02:34:38,590
Amazing this thing it's a square box with

4338
02:34:38,590 --> 02:34:41,010
a seat and you poop in it, but

4339
02:34:41,010 --> 02:34:46,510
it reminds me of haute couture Well to

4340
02:34:46,510 --> 02:34:48,710
jiggle the handle no matter what yes I

4341
02:34:48,710 --> 02:34:50,650
would like to get a report from you

4342
02:34:50,650 --> 02:34:53,050
from Andrew Horowitz exactly what his as this

4343
02:34:53,050 --> 02:34:54,950
toilet been discussed on dh I don't think

4344
02:34:54,950 --> 02:34:56,450
yeah, it's been discussed on the show, but

4345
02:34:56,450 --> 02:34:58,550
I don't think this is the box You

4346
02:34:58,550 --> 02:35:01,070
know it's a toilet well If you're gonna

4347
02:35:01,070 --> 02:35:02,330
get a toilet you might as well get

4348
02:35:02,330 --> 02:35:04,610
a designer toilet and that apparently is a

4349
02:35:04,610 --> 02:35:06,430
square box It looks like yes.

4350
02:35:06,590 --> 02:35:07,990
There's a square box with a hole in

4351
02:35:07,990 --> 02:35:10,030
the top even the lid is square.

4352
02:35:10,050 --> 02:35:14,190
It's called an outhouse To poop in then

4353
02:35:14,190 --> 02:35:16,190
you go in the backyard, okay, I have

4354
02:35:16,190 --> 02:35:20,150
a series of clips on in cells No,

4355
02:35:20,150 --> 02:35:22,690
which became a topic conversation on one of

4356
02:35:22,690 --> 02:35:23,270
the networks.

4357
02:35:23,370 --> 02:35:26,070
I remember it well And this is called

4358
02:35:26,070 --> 02:35:28,030
black pill And I got this a bunch

4359
02:35:28,030 --> 02:35:29,230
of clips and if you want to hear

4360
02:35:29,230 --> 02:35:31,390
them and talk about this because I think

4361
02:35:31,390 --> 02:35:33,690
this is bogus They make it sound as

4362
02:35:33,690 --> 02:35:33,850
though.

4363
02:35:33,950 --> 02:35:34,690
It's a club.

4364
02:35:34,690 --> 02:35:36,170
We're going to a book now.

4365
02:35:36,250 --> 02:35:39,550
It's just been published It's called black pill

4366
02:35:39,550 --> 02:35:41,350
wait is this the BBC World Service.

4367
02:35:41,390 --> 02:35:44,670
I won't I won't do the jingle and

4368
02:35:44,670 --> 02:35:46,810
it looks at the incel by which I

4369
02:35:46,810 --> 02:35:50,470
mean involuntary celibates movement and draws on interviews

4370
02:35:50,470 --> 02:35:54,850
with Movement around The movement should check out

4371
02:35:54,850 --> 02:35:56,930
the new smart toilet from Kohler and world

4372
02:35:56,930 --> 02:35:59,850
It's been written by Maeve Park And the

4373
02:35:59,850 --> 02:36:02,050
idea is to help explain in cells and

4374
02:36:02,050 --> 02:36:04,510
the culture that creates them and what they

4375
02:36:04,510 --> 02:36:07,950
believe I spoke to Maeve Park earlier and

4376
02:36:07,950 --> 02:36:09,710
asked first of all just to do a

4377
02:36:09,710 --> 02:36:11,450
definition of terms as it were what does

4378
02:36:11,450 --> 02:36:13,510
the title black pilled mean?

4379
02:36:13,650 --> 02:36:16,570
And how does she define the term incel

4380
02:36:16,570 --> 02:36:18,870
the term black pills is the name of

4381
02:36:18,870 --> 02:36:19,670
the ideology?

4382
02:36:19,670 --> 02:36:23,050
We're seeing subscribed to incels It's a nihilistic

4383
02:36:23,050 --> 02:36:26,290
worldview with misogyny as well and the term

4384
02:36:26,290 --> 02:36:30,630
incel literally means involuntary Celibate however the term

4385
02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:33,470
is used within this group of people mostly

4386
02:36:33,470 --> 02:36:36,310
congregating online who subscribed the beliefs of the

4387
02:36:36,310 --> 02:36:38,430
black pill so they can believe in the

4388
02:36:38,430 --> 02:36:41,910
nihilistic version of life or the misogynistic wrapped

4389
02:36:41,910 --> 02:36:45,850
into one kind of ideological Worldview very bleak

4390
02:36:45,850 --> 02:36:48,070
very much about men being suppressed and very

4391
02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:50,710
much about if you're not attractive enough Your

4392
02:36:50,710 --> 02:36:52,550
hope in life is you don't really have

4393
02:36:52,550 --> 02:36:53,390
a lot of hope in life.

4394
02:36:53,470 --> 02:36:57,530
So kind of a fatalistic Catastrophic nihilistic worldview

4395
02:36:57,530 --> 02:37:00,750
with misogyny very much attached into it as

4396
02:37:00,750 --> 02:37:01,070
well.

4397
02:37:01,090 --> 02:37:01,690
Okay.

4398
02:37:01,810 --> 02:37:02,830
Hold on a second.

4399
02:37:02,870 --> 02:37:06,550
So you have five clips from the BBC

4400
02:37:06,550 --> 02:37:10,030
about black pill Yet they they can't fill

4401
02:37:10,030 --> 02:37:14,630
three clips with any information about Turkey Turkey

4402
02:37:14,630 --> 02:37:17,190
Turkey a they can't even pronounce it, right?

4403
02:37:17,330 --> 02:37:19,450
I know I'm very familiar with black pill.

4404
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:21,070
This has been a term That's been around

4405
02:37:22,510 --> 02:37:23,910
Really with all this.

4406
02:37:24,090 --> 02:37:25,470
Well, you should ask the kids at the

4407
02:37:25,470 --> 02:37:25,810
table.

4408
02:37:26,350 --> 02:37:28,350
They're all married I mean, I don't think

4409
02:37:28,350 --> 02:37:31,250
any black pillars are around a lot.

4410
02:37:31,390 --> 02:37:32,730
You have to have a black pillar in

4411
02:37:32,730 --> 02:37:34,110
the family It seems to me.

4412
02:37:34,250 --> 02:37:36,350
Well, there's this is a real thing I'd

4413
02:37:36,350 --> 02:37:39,050
never really heard about how it was filled

4414
02:37:39,050 --> 02:37:40,250
with misogyny though.

4415
02:37:40,270 --> 02:37:43,110
That's that's an interesting take So I'm excited

4416
02:37:43,110 --> 02:37:43,830
to hear the rest.

4417
02:37:44,410 --> 02:37:44,510
Yeah.

4418
02:37:44,510 --> 02:37:45,670
Well, I think I've heard that part.

4419
02:37:46,050 --> 02:37:48,370
Hmm Cuz these guys, you know, they can't

4420
02:37:48,370 --> 02:37:48,770
get a date.

4421
02:37:48,830 --> 02:37:50,090
They can't look a girl in the eye

4422
02:37:50,090 --> 02:37:53,170
But it's black pill is not necessarily incel

4423
02:37:53,170 --> 02:37:55,150
black pill as you see no future for

4424
02:37:55,150 --> 02:37:58,130
the world and you're just According to this

4425
02:37:58,130 --> 02:37:59,930
woman black pill is incels.

4426
02:38:00,090 --> 02:38:02,950
So age isn't part of the definition No

4427
02:38:02,950 --> 02:38:05,290
age is not part of the definition in

4428
02:38:05,290 --> 02:38:08,110
the online world for incels They actually tend

4429
02:38:08,110 --> 02:38:10,130
to be in their mid 20s and they

4430
02:38:10,130 --> 02:38:12,790
tend to kind of start around 19 and

4431
02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:15,010
the oldest incels I've come across online would

4432
02:38:15,010 --> 02:38:16,910
be in their mid 30s So there is

4433
02:38:16,910 --> 02:38:18,690
a kind of a broad age group there

4434
02:38:18,690 --> 02:38:21,210
as well And the basic idea is they've

4435
02:38:21,210 --> 02:38:24,830
never found a girlfriend and they blame the

4436
02:38:24,830 --> 02:38:27,950
world This is the second time this guy's

4437
02:38:27,950 --> 02:38:29,590
done that and I don't know that it's

4438
02:38:29,590 --> 02:38:31,370
part of the British accent I never noticed

4439
02:38:31,370 --> 02:38:32,990
this before but he did it the first

4440
02:38:32,990 --> 02:38:33,250
clip.

4441
02:38:33,310 --> 02:38:34,050
He's done it again.

4442
02:38:34,130 --> 02:38:34,590
What do you do?

4443
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:37,770
He says I dear Oh, yeah, that's it.

4444
02:38:37,850 --> 02:38:39,670
That's a very you know, that's a New

4445
02:38:39,670 --> 02:38:41,430
England thing to my mom would say I

4446
02:38:41,430 --> 02:38:42,550
dear what's the idea?

4447
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:45,870
So it is a derivative.

4448
02:38:46,110 --> 02:38:46,910
It is a British thing.

4449
02:38:46,970 --> 02:38:49,330
I dear if there's no are an idea

4450
02:38:50,250 --> 02:38:53,490
But dear, but okay BBC also can't seem

4451
02:38:53,490 --> 02:38:57,930
to say Turkey a so And the basic

4452
02:38:57,930 --> 02:39:01,510
idea is they've never found a girlfriend and

4453
02:39:01,510 --> 02:39:04,250
they they blame the world for that Yeah,

4454
02:39:04,310 --> 02:39:05,070
basic idea.

4455
02:39:05,250 --> 02:39:06,170
Is that you that is true?

4456
02:39:06,510 --> 02:39:08,850
Yes So they believe that because they haven't

4457
02:39:08,850 --> 02:39:11,550
had any romantic partners or even gone on

4458
02:39:11,550 --> 02:39:14,110
dates or had any success in that kind

4459
02:39:14,110 --> 02:39:16,410
of arena That they feel that there's something

4460
02:39:16,410 --> 02:39:18,650
either very much wrong with them or wrong

4461
02:39:18,650 --> 02:39:20,850
with society And they're kind of taking that

4462
02:39:20,850 --> 02:39:23,050
out in a very much a resentment build

4463
02:39:23,050 --> 02:39:25,850
Ideology and a very kind of fatalistic manner

4464
02:39:25,850 --> 02:39:27,570
as well and that can get violent.

4465
02:39:27,690 --> 02:39:30,070
It can get violent We have seen violence

4466
02:39:30,070 --> 02:39:32,270
coming from this kind of ideology in this

4467
02:39:32,270 --> 02:39:35,530
worldview and we've seen some mass shootings and

4468
02:39:35,530 --> 02:39:37,950
mass homicide coming from it one of the

4469
02:39:37,950 --> 02:39:41,290
earliest mass shootings wasn't the 2014 the Isla

4470
02:39:41,290 --> 02:39:43,350
Vista Shooting in California.

4471
02:39:43,350 --> 02:39:45,410
It was carried out by a young man

4472
02:39:45,410 --> 02:39:47,570
called Elliot Roger He was 21 at the

4473
02:39:47,570 --> 02:39:50,390
time and he shot and killed six people

4474
02:39:50,390 --> 02:39:52,710
including himself And then from that we've also

4475
02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:54,930
seen other types of violence coming out of

4476
02:39:54,930 --> 02:39:57,910
the worldview as well We've seen sexual harassment

4477
02:39:58,790 --> 02:40:02,070
Stalking abuse abuse online and there has been

4478
02:40:02,070 --> 02:40:05,010
a wide variety of harms coming out And

4479
02:40:05,010 --> 02:40:06,350
then some of the violence that we're seeing

4480
02:40:06,350 --> 02:40:09,150
is also the suicide as well Well, this

4481
02:40:09,150 --> 02:40:11,130
is no laughing matter and there's a lot

4482
02:40:11,130 --> 02:40:14,470
of data to back up this problem that

4483
02:40:14,470 --> 02:40:18,590
young men have a very hard time finding

4484
02:40:18,590 --> 02:40:22,090
a Finding a mate just someone to date

4485
02:40:22,830 --> 02:40:25,750
Mainly because yes, well, it would say what

4486
02:40:25,750 --> 02:40:27,790
you said thing is mainly because because I

4487
02:40:27,790 --> 02:40:30,150
have a mainly because well There's it's the

4488
02:40:30,150 --> 02:40:32,690
problem is from two sides on the on

4489
02:40:32,690 --> 02:40:36,490
the female side many young girls are only

4490
02:40:36,490 --> 02:40:41,150
interested in a very Successful so they want

4491
02:40:41,150 --> 02:40:42,630
influencers they want money.

4492
02:40:42,650 --> 02:40:43,190
They want it.

4493
02:40:43,290 --> 02:40:44,690
They want if you got to have money

4494
02:40:44,690 --> 02:40:46,010
You got a show cash you got a

4495
02:40:46,010 --> 02:40:48,230
money and I'm generalizing but I think it's

4496
02:40:48,230 --> 02:40:50,850
it's true in general on the young men

4497
02:40:50,850 --> 02:40:53,330
side There's no place for them to go

4498
02:40:53,330 --> 02:40:56,110
meet girls So it's only online and the

4499
02:40:56,110 --> 02:40:59,430
only online experience they have is an overabundance

4500
02:40:59,430 --> 02:41:02,650
of porn So when when they finally, you

4501
02:41:02,650 --> 02:41:04,450
know meet or have a date all they

4502
02:41:04,450 --> 02:41:07,450
can think about is porn And I was

4503
02:41:07,450 --> 02:41:09,610
talking to the barista here at Java ranch

4504
02:41:09,610 --> 02:41:11,710
nice girl She's Adam.

4505
02:41:11,850 --> 02:41:13,330
I can't and you know, there's all young

4506
02:41:13,330 --> 02:41:13,570
kids.

4507
02:41:13,790 --> 02:41:16,870
I can't find a man to date and

4508
02:41:16,870 --> 02:41:18,970
I said well When you meet them this

4509
02:41:18,970 --> 02:41:21,770
horrible, all they want is one thing and

4510
02:41:21,770 --> 02:41:24,590
it's all like aggressive and it's just it's

4511
02:41:24,590 --> 02:41:27,890
it's horrible So I think that's that's what's

4512
02:41:27,890 --> 02:41:28,550
going on here.

4513
02:41:28,770 --> 02:41:29,730
I don't think so.

4514
02:41:29,810 --> 02:41:32,070
Okay I mean, I think that's that is

4515
02:41:32,070 --> 02:41:34,450
the result of the real problem.

4516
02:41:34,510 --> 02:41:37,030
Okay when I was a kid, here we

4517
02:41:37,030 --> 02:41:38,890
go Yeah, here we go.

4518
02:41:38,970 --> 02:41:41,770
Yes When I was getting the second grade

4519
02:41:41,770 --> 02:41:43,990
the third grade the fourth grade in the

4520
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:45,890
first grade I think we were forced to

4521
02:41:45,890 --> 02:41:47,190
learn different dances.

4522
02:41:47,490 --> 02:41:49,490
We had to dance with girls.

4523
02:41:49,650 --> 02:41:52,610
Yes We were dancing at the cha-cha

4524
02:41:52,610 --> 02:41:54,650
They would teach us the cha-cha-cha

4525
02:41:54,650 --> 02:41:57,970
the rumba every stupid dance Imaginable and you

4526
02:41:57,970 --> 02:42:00,290
had to dance and square dancing was also

4527
02:42:00,290 --> 02:42:01,630
a big thing You had to learn how

4528
02:42:01,630 --> 02:42:03,650
to do that And so by the time

4529
02:42:03,650 --> 02:42:05,330
you're in the sixth grade you knew how

4530
02:42:05,330 --> 02:42:07,490
to at least you know Step around and

4531
02:42:07,490 --> 02:42:10,170
you were oh you're handling girls because you

4532
02:42:10,170 --> 02:42:11,190
had to dance with girls.

4533
02:42:11,270 --> 02:42:13,650
You weren't dancing with guys And so and

4534
02:42:13,650 --> 02:42:15,190
there was always the classes about half and

4535
02:42:15,190 --> 02:42:16,570
half so you'd get a you know And

4536
02:42:16,570 --> 02:42:18,450
you'd switch partners and you always you'd be

4537
02:42:18,450 --> 02:42:20,850
very familiarized and then by the time we

4538
02:42:20,850 --> 02:42:22,550
got to high school They had the sock

4539
02:42:22,550 --> 02:42:24,770
hop which I bitch about and moan and

4540
02:42:24,770 --> 02:42:26,970
groan about constantly is another old thing That's

4541
02:42:26,970 --> 02:42:28,710
long gone And the reason for the sock

4542
02:42:28,710 --> 02:42:30,030
hop was in the gym and he had

4543
02:42:30,030 --> 02:42:32,130
to wear socks Because they didn't want to

4544
02:42:32,130 --> 02:42:33,830
scratch up the gym floors the reason for

4545
02:42:33,830 --> 02:42:36,450
being socks But they all these dances and

4546
02:42:36,450 --> 02:42:38,010
people would stand around and then they pick

4547
02:42:38,010 --> 02:42:38,690
back.

4548
02:42:38,850 --> 02:42:42,350
There was there was forced Socialization at the

4549
02:42:42,350 --> 02:42:45,290
school level when you're a little kid that

4550
02:42:45,290 --> 02:42:48,370
is disappeared that is causing all the rest

4551
02:42:48,370 --> 02:42:58,110
of it Boomer update.

4552
02:42:58,370 --> 02:43:03,310
Yeah Well, there was also something called cotillion

4553
02:43:04,430 --> 02:43:06,070
That was more southern thing.

4554
02:43:06,130 --> 02:43:06,990
I think cotillion.

4555
02:43:07,150 --> 02:43:07,290
Yep.

4556
02:43:07,510 --> 02:43:08,050
Same idea.

4557
02:43:08,610 --> 02:43:10,990
I Think you are absolutely right now.

4558
02:43:11,070 --> 02:43:12,770
You have to add to that that the

4559
02:43:12,770 --> 02:43:15,410
schools have become exactly the opposite Oh, oh,

4560
02:43:15,470 --> 02:43:17,270
no, you know, you have to ask permission

4561
02:43:17,270 --> 02:43:19,910
and you can't look at anyone and it's

4562
02:43:19,910 --> 02:43:23,970
a toxic masculinity And the whole society, you're

4563
02:43:23,970 --> 02:43:25,350
right society is screwed.

4564
02:43:25,670 --> 02:43:28,190
You're right You're right.

4565
02:43:28,450 --> 02:43:30,950
And so these boys they they they fall

4566
02:43:30,950 --> 02:43:33,790
into a black hole of gaming and if

4567
02:43:33,790 --> 02:43:39,170
they're unlucky they get they get hypno Hypnotized

4568
02:43:39,170 --> 02:43:43,630
into into trans stuff Which which was covered

4569
02:43:43,630 --> 02:43:44,230
on the show?

4570
02:43:45,790 --> 02:43:47,530
And they go all goth and then they

4571
02:43:47,530 --> 02:43:48,230
turn into women.

4572
02:43:48,290 --> 02:43:49,070
It's the whole thing.

4573
02:43:49,690 --> 02:43:53,570
We're doomed people were doomed homeschool and get

4574
02:43:53,570 --> 02:43:57,250
your dance on Yeah, the homeschooling doesn't do

4575
02:43:57,250 --> 02:43:59,770
this the forced socialization quite like real school

4576
02:43:59,770 --> 02:44:01,050
used to do but they don't do it

4577
02:44:01,050 --> 02:44:02,630
anymore So you might as well homeschool.

4578
02:44:02,690 --> 02:44:04,370
Let's go to clip three Now one of

4579
02:44:04,370 --> 02:44:06,790
the striking things seeing your book was that

4580
02:44:06,790 --> 02:44:09,130
the people you interviewed were UK This is

4581
02:44:09,130 --> 02:44:11,970
where they were UK Canada USA, Australia, France,

4582
02:44:12,310 --> 02:44:12,670
Germany.

4583
02:44:12,770 --> 02:44:14,710
Is this a Western phenomenon?

4584
02:44:15,210 --> 02:44:17,430
It's not a Western phenomenon, but I was

4585
02:44:17,430 --> 02:44:20,070
going I was researching the anglosphere in cell

4586
02:44:20,070 --> 02:44:22,830
communities Which was an interesting finding to see

4587
02:44:22,830 --> 02:44:24,810
that there were people who came from non

4588
02:44:24,810 --> 02:44:27,250
English-speaking countries taking part in the English

4589
02:44:27,250 --> 02:44:28,670
-speaking In cell communities.

4590
02:44:28,810 --> 02:44:30,950
However, we have discovered that there are non

4591
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:33,890
English in cell communities There are French communities.

4592
02:44:34,110 --> 02:44:35,490
There are Indian communities.

4593
02:44:35,930 --> 02:44:38,350
There are South Korean It spans the world

4594
02:44:38,350 --> 02:44:40,670
and now we're seeing even some African communities

4595
02:44:40,670 --> 02:44:43,210
coming up So it's not just a Western

4596
02:44:43,210 --> 02:44:45,750
problem or a Western issue But we are

4597
02:44:45,750 --> 02:44:48,190
seeing maybe the Western in cell communities being

4598
02:44:48,190 --> 02:44:50,570
they're probably the older communities They have a

4599
02:44:50,570 --> 02:44:52,650
lot more of the worldview established and they

4600
02:44:52,650 --> 02:44:55,330
really resonate around the media messages of the

4601
02:44:55,330 --> 02:44:57,650
West Mostly coming from an American kind of

4602
02:44:57,650 --> 02:45:00,730
media culture, you know, it's not just Not

4603
02:45:00,730 --> 02:45:02,710
just from your generation, but when I was

4604
02:45:02,710 --> 02:45:06,970
growing up at the The Dorps house as

4605
02:45:06,970 --> 02:45:08,770
I grew up in a small village south

4606
02:45:08,770 --> 02:45:09,390
of Amsterdam.

4607
02:45:09,490 --> 02:45:11,230
We had a like a little community.

4608
02:45:11,310 --> 02:45:11,930
What do you call that?

4609
02:45:13,070 --> 02:45:15,830
Yeah, where the community comes together as a

4610
02:45:15,830 --> 02:45:16,110
whole.

4611
02:45:16,370 --> 02:45:17,090
What do you call it community?

4612
02:45:17,370 --> 02:45:19,530
I when I was a good back I

4613
02:45:19,530 --> 02:45:21,350
would back to you back that up We

4614
02:45:21,350 --> 02:45:23,330
had a boys girls club kind of thing

4615
02:45:23,330 --> 02:45:24,950
on it was called the community center It

4616
02:45:24,950 --> 02:45:28,390
was in a Newark and the community center

4617
02:45:28,390 --> 02:45:31,350
would have these dances every Friday and Saturday

4618
02:45:32,610 --> 02:45:35,210
When you're in grammar school, well what I

4619
02:45:35,210 --> 02:45:37,670
had other situation there was the there would

4620
02:45:37,670 --> 02:45:41,950
dancing with Force dancing because it was a

4621
02:45:41,950 --> 02:45:45,310
socialization thing and I would say it's forced

4622
02:45:46,550 --> 02:45:51,250
Yes force dancing it We never had in

4623
02:45:51,250 --> 02:45:53,870
cells we didn't have the idea of somebody

4624
02:45:53,870 --> 02:45:55,610
living with their parents until they're in their

4625
02:45:55,610 --> 02:45:58,530
30s because they Can't get a date I

4626
02:45:58,530 --> 02:46:00,290
mean This is all new and it has

4627
02:46:00,290 --> 02:46:01,570
a lot to do with the lack of

4628
02:46:01,570 --> 02:46:04,310
socialization as a young adult as a young

4629
02:46:04,310 --> 02:46:05,530
No, and I didn't know young it a

4630
02:46:05,530 --> 02:46:05,970
kid.

4631
02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:07,910
Well, I was going to add to that

4632
02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:11,230
that we had once a year there was

4633
02:46:11,230 --> 02:46:14,610
dance lessons and Everybody would sign up for

4634
02:46:14,610 --> 02:46:17,290
dance lessons and you'd all go there and

4635
02:46:17,290 --> 02:46:19,630
that was a version it wasn't school organized

4636
02:46:19,630 --> 02:46:23,110
but it was village organized like It's China

4637
02:46:23,110 --> 02:46:25,090
for dance lessons and everybody did it.

4638
02:46:25,310 --> 02:46:26,730
You didn't want to be the the schmuck

4639
02:46:26,730 --> 02:46:28,090
that didn't go and no one could dance

4640
02:46:28,610 --> 02:46:30,970
That's why I went to dance lessons and

4641
02:46:30,970 --> 02:46:33,430
it was the same thing And of course,

4642
02:46:33,450 --> 02:46:35,030
I didn't go to dance lessons and I

4643
02:46:35,030 --> 02:46:38,430
became an inso But then I got on

4644
02:46:38,430 --> 02:46:44,320
the radio and things changed You've been married

4645
02:46:44,320 --> 02:46:44,940
three times.

4646
02:46:45,060 --> 02:46:48,360
You're not an in cell Wow, you had

4647
02:46:48,360 --> 02:46:51,200
to go there Okay, I was worried.

4648
02:46:51,440 --> 02:46:53,120
So do you think this is one of

4649
02:46:53,120 --> 02:46:55,240
those things that's happening because of the internet?

4650
02:46:55,380 --> 02:46:57,120
You know that these people like this have

4651
02:46:57,120 --> 02:47:00,020
always existed, but they've been isolated and now

4652
02:47:00,020 --> 02:47:01,720
they're not they're part of a group I

4653
02:47:01,720 --> 02:47:04,000
would say yes, that is definitely true And

4654
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:05,180
that is why we're seeing kind of a

4655
02:47:05,180 --> 02:47:08,280
community build around people who couldn't find community

4656
02:47:08,280 --> 02:47:11,040
I often say that the incels online are

4657
02:47:11,040 --> 02:47:13,200
the most exclusive club in a very strange

4658
02:47:13,200 --> 02:47:15,360
way They're very clear about who is in

4659
02:47:15,360 --> 02:47:17,060
cell who is not in cell and who

4660
02:47:17,060 --> 02:47:19,540
would fit in their criteria However, there are

4661
02:47:19,540 --> 02:47:20,980
all a bunch of people who did not

4662
02:47:20,980 --> 02:47:23,900
find community outside of these groups So in

4663
02:47:23,900 --> 02:47:25,940
a strange way, they are the outsiders now

4664
02:47:25,940 --> 02:47:28,920
building a group for themselves online however, as

4665
02:47:28,920 --> 02:47:30,740
you said yes, there have always been people

4666
02:47:30,740 --> 02:47:33,460
who have been left out ostracized and in

4667
02:47:33,460 --> 02:47:35,740
cells not all of them would be misogynistic

4668
02:47:35,740 --> 02:47:37,380
not all of them would be violent many

4669
02:47:37,380 --> 02:47:40,040
of them are nihilistic very much self hating

4670
02:47:40,040 --> 02:47:42,940
and would not take their vengeance or Resentment

4671
02:47:42,940 --> 02:47:45,220
out on others but yes The internet has

4672
02:47:45,220 --> 02:47:47,660
allowed for this kind of ideologies to spread

4673
02:47:47,660 --> 02:47:50,020
around and people who may not have found

4674
02:47:50,020 --> 02:47:52,620
these ideologies before to find them And that's

4675
02:47:52,620 --> 02:47:53,820
what we're seeing with the internet.

4676
02:47:53,920 --> 02:47:55,880
You've used the term nihilistic quite a lot

4677
02:47:55,880 --> 02:47:57,100
So, can you just talk us through that

4678
02:47:57,100 --> 02:48:00,020
when you interview one of these young men?

4679
02:48:00,280 --> 02:48:03,480
How does that manifest itself that nihilism very

4680
02:48:03,480 --> 02:48:06,140
much a feeling that nothing will ever work

4681
02:48:06,140 --> 02:48:08,200
out for me that there is no Hope

4682
02:48:08,200 --> 02:48:10,040
for me that I may as well drop

4683
02:48:10,040 --> 02:48:12,240
out of society meaning if you're young dropping

4684
02:48:12,240 --> 02:48:15,160
out of university Dropping out of school not

4685
02:48:15,160 --> 02:48:17,660
attempting to find a job not leaving your

4686
02:48:17,660 --> 02:48:20,980
house not going outside or having any conversations

4687
02:48:20,980 --> 02:48:24,480
with anyone becoming very reclusive and Feeling like

4688
02:48:24,480 --> 02:48:26,940
that is your kind of fate at a

4689
02:48:26,940 --> 02:48:29,820
very young age, which is very difficult But

4690
02:48:29,820 --> 02:48:32,700
also very damaging for their life for their

4691
02:48:32,700 --> 02:48:34,480
sense of well-being and I've met many

4692
02:48:34,480 --> 02:48:37,800
people in their mid 30s who have gone

4693
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:39,540
through that in their early 20s and are

4694
02:48:39,540 --> 02:48:42,100
now kind of seeing the impact of that

4695
02:48:42,100 --> 02:48:44,660
where they have no Social circle they have

4696
02:48:44,660 --> 02:48:45,380
no financial.

4697
02:48:45,900 --> 02:48:47,780
They have no ability to get a job

4698
02:48:47,780 --> 02:48:50,540
a salary And so their their situation has

4699
02:48:50,540 --> 02:48:54,650
become very bleak They can always and they

4700
02:48:54,650 --> 02:48:56,510
can always become artists for the no agenda

4701
02:48:56,510 --> 02:49:01,150
show Again we have that no explanation for

4702
02:49:01,150 --> 02:49:03,370
any of this is just a phenomenon which

4703
02:49:03,370 --> 02:49:06,790
is again, which is You're complaining about the

4704
02:49:06,790 --> 02:49:09,070
BBC from the earlier clips, yeah, but it

4705
02:49:09,070 --> 02:49:10,590
but you know, you didn't have to stretch

4706
02:49:10,590 --> 02:49:14,130
it out for eight minutes I'm sorry, but

4707
02:49:14,130 --> 02:49:15,210
we're gonna wrap it now.

4708
02:49:15,210 --> 02:49:20,150
So you Complain later There's no complaining.

4709
02:49:20,390 --> 02:49:22,430
Let's hold hands and share a secret So

4710
02:49:22,430 --> 02:49:24,510
it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in many way

4711
02:49:24,510 --> 02:49:26,690
The many ways I'm very damaging for young

4712
02:49:26,690 --> 02:49:28,930
people getting involved in that for that reason

4713
02:49:28,930 --> 02:49:32,730
as well Always male or sometimes female in

4714
02:49:32,730 --> 02:49:34,410
cells interestingly enough.

4715
02:49:34,570 --> 02:49:37,090
There are some women in cells There's a

4716
02:49:37,090 --> 02:49:40,450
group called femme cells However, there are not

4717
02:49:40,450 --> 02:49:42,370
as many of them and in cell the

4718
02:49:42,370 --> 02:49:45,030
term in cell is only male so only

4719
02:49:45,030 --> 02:49:47,390
men can call themselves in cells according to

4720
02:49:47,390 --> 02:49:49,830
the communities and According to the people online

4721
02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:52,450
who define themselves as in cell because the

4722
02:49:52,450 --> 02:49:55,170
out group for in cells are women So

4723
02:49:55,170 --> 02:49:58,130
the resentment is there around women and so

4724
02:49:58,130 --> 02:50:00,090
that's why it's important for them to keep

4725
02:50:00,090 --> 02:50:02,770
that in only men as well You've described

4726
02:50:02,770 --> 02:50:04,510
that this is a sort of self-fulfilling

4727
02:50:04,510 --> 02:50:06,430
prophecy and people in their mid 30s can

4728
02:50:06,430 --> 02:50:08,430
get into a very bad situation because they've

4729
02:50:08,430 --> 02:50:10,230
Had this thinking in their 20s.

4730
02:50:10,230 --> 02:50:13,150
Are there people who are in cells who

4731
02:50:13,150 --> 02:50:13,730
get out of it?

4732
02:50:13,850 --> 02:50:15,890
You know and they they find relationships and

4733
02:50:15,890 --> 02:50:16,910
they move on.

4734
02:50:16,990 --> 02:50:18,910
Oh, yeah Well, that's always the hope and

4735
02:50:18,910 --> 02:50:20,450
I speak about it in the book how

4736
02:50:20,450 --> 02:50:23,130
a couple of the interviewees I met so

4737
02:50:23,130 --> 02:50:24,830
I was interviewing them for over a year

4738
02:50:24,830 --> 02:50:26,870
and During that time a couple of them

4739
02:50:26,870 --> 02:50:29,130
found ways out of the ideology or out

4740
02:50:29,130 --> 02:50:31,450
of their situation One of the best success

4741
02:50:31,450 --> 02:50:35,030
stories was a man in his later 20s

4742
02:50:35,030 --> 02:50:37,950
returning to university after initially dropping out in

4743
02:50:37,950 --> 02:50:40,330
his early 30s in the UK and that

4744
02:50:40,330 --> 02:50:41,830
has kind of given him a new lease

4745
02:50:41,830 --> 02:50:44,050
in life a new goal a new feeling

4746
02:50:44,050 --> 02:50:46,410
of self-esteem and He's having a good

4747
02:50:46,410 --> 02:50:49,330
time enjoying it and finding people through it

4748
02:50:49,330 --> 02:50:51,190
as well So that was a success story

4749
02:50:51,190 --> 02:50:54,210
in itself Other times some incels can just

4750
02:50:54,210 --> 02:50:57,550
leave because they find potentially a partner or

4751
02:50:57,550 --> 02:50:59,770
friendships But we have to be very careful

4752
02:50:59,770 --> 02:51:02,210
about when we talk about whether a relationship

4753
02:51:02,210 --> 02:51:04,070
is your way out A lot of incels

4754
02:51:04,070 --> 02:51:06,310
will believe I will if I find a

4755
02:51:06,310 --> 02:51:08,610
girlfriend I'll leave the ideology but the evidence

4756
02:51:08,610 --> 02:51:11,510
is showing that sometimes when that happens the

4757
02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:14,490
ideology doesn't go away you don't become less

4758
02:51:14,490 --> 02:51:17,130
misogynistic or less nihilistic just because you have

4759
02:51:17,130 --> 02:51:19,330
a date or had a short-term relationship

4760
02:51:19,330 --> 02:51:23,210
or Girlfriend that doesn't solve the problem Well,

4761
02:51:23,250 --> 02:51:24,830
I think this is self-correcting.

4762
02:51:24,910 --> 02:51:25,970
We're seeing it already.

4763
02:51:26,130 --> 02:51:28,190
I mean, this is really a millennial problem

4764
02:51:28,190 --> 02:51:30,130
Sorry, Jen's Jen.

4765
02:51:30,370 --> 02:51:33,310
Yeah, no millennial problem younger millennial problem the

4766
02:51:33,310 --> 02:51:35,390
older Millennials were just close enough to Gen

4767
02:51:35,390 --> 02:51:37,930
X that they kind of you know, they

4768
02:51:37,930 --> 02:51:42,070
got a clue and I'm seeing Gen Z

4769
02:51:42,070 --> 02:51:44,810
Gen Z is kind of rebelling against technology

4770
02:51:44,810 --> 02:51:47,930
rebelling a bit against the phone stuff They're

4771
02:51:47,930 --> 02:51:48,830
playing chess.

4772
02:51:48,890 --> 02:51:49,610
They're going out.

4773
02:51:49,650 --> 02:51:50,670
They're doing other things.

4774
02:51:50,670 --> 02:51:52,530
They are getting together in groups I think

4775
02:51:52,530 --> 02:51:53,490
it's self-correcting.

4776
02:51:53,530 --> 02:51:56,290
It just gives the BBC another opportunity to

4777
02:51:56,290 --> 02:52:00,410
fill 10 minutes of airtime with direct direct

4778
02:52:00,410 --> 02:52:03,990
I It might be self-correcting but the

4779
02:52:03,990 --> 02:52:06,650
problem still exists at the schools are not

4780
02:52:06,650 --> 02:52:09,530
doing their jobs I'm socializing the kids properly

4781
02:52:09,530 --> 02:52:11,890
Oh there and until they start doing that

4782
02:52:11,890 --> 02:52:13,390
which you're not gonna do the way they're

4783
02:52:13,390 --> 02:52:15,730
going about things No, but the schools are

4784
02:52:15,730 --> 02:52:18,930
complicit in transing children and putting odd books

4785
02:52:18,930 --> 02:52:21,030
in the library and then highlighting it by

4786
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:23,210
putting right lock and key Yeah, the schools

4787
02:52:23,210 --> 02:52:26,390
are the problem always schools are the problem.

4788
02:52:26,430 --> 02:52:27,990
There it is And that's why we need

4789
02:52:27,990 --> 02:52:30,610
to dissolve the part Department of Education Give

4790
02:52:30,610 --> 02:52:32,170
it back to the states and Texas will

4791
02:52:32,170 --> 02:52:35,250
be number one baby phone finger You know,

4792
02:52:35,310 --> 02:52:38,510
Texas is one of the states along with

4793
02:52:38,510 --> 02:52:40,350
a lot of the states that is like

4794
02:52:40,350 --> 02:52:42,290
they always bitch about California doing this with

4795
02:52:42,290 --> 02:52:45,710
the Texas California's a Johnny come lately when

4796
02:52:45,710 --> 02:52:48,270
it comes to not telling the parents that

4797
02:52:48,270 --> 02:52:50,650
your kids trans is going trans.

4798
02:52:51,010 --> 02:52:53,710
Yeah Texas is one of those states really

4799
02:52:54,430 --> 02:52:54,870
Yep.

4800
02:52:55,210 --> 02:52:58,790
Yeah, well How does that work?

4801
02:52:58,850 --> 02:52:59,430
I don't know.

4802
02:53:00,230 --> 02:53:00,990
I don't know.

4803
02:53:01,090 --> 02:53:02,090
I did I was not aware.

4804
02:53:02,190 --> 02:53:03,630
How do you get Jasmine Crockett?

4805
02:53:04,830 --> 02:53:05,690
Good point.

4806
02:53:05,970 --> 02:53:06,510
All right.

4807
02:53:06,530 --> 02:53:08,730
I'll I need to add a new word

4808
02:53:08,730 --> 02:53:11,750
to our Vocabulary as the Oxford Dictionary has

4809
02:53:11,750 --> 02:53:14,850
added it so that means Beside saying Turkey

4810
02:53:14,850 --> 02:53:16,590
a properly we now have a new one.

4811
02:53:16,750 --> 02:53:19,910
Let's talk because the English language is changing

4812
02:53:19,910 --> 02:53:22,990
The folks behind the Oxford English Dictionary added

4813
02:53:22,990 --> 02:53:25,350
dozens of new words to its pages this

4814
02:53:25,350 --> 02:53:27,870
week The new entries include many of Spanish

4815
02:53:27,870 --> 02:53:31,270
origin like Cubano Referring to anything Cuban from

4816
02:53:31,270 --> 02:53:34,770
individuals to the famous sandwiches also in their

4817
02:53:34,770 --> 02:53:38,270
slang phrases such as real talk Meaning honest

4818
02:53:38,270 --> 02:53:41,430
and direct conversations and British slang like the

4819
02:53:41,430 --> 02:53:45,650
word faffy as in overcomplicated and time-consuming

4820
02:53:45,650 --> 02:53:51,350
faffy faffy Ffy faffy yes, I've never heard

4821
02:53:51,350 --> 02:53:54,210
that I use Cubano Coincidentally in the show

4822
02:53:54,210 --> 02:53:56,610
today when you're talking about somebody a person

4823
02:53:56,610 --> 02:53:58,610
of Cuban origin you call them a Cubano

4824
02:53:58,610 --> 02:54:01,250
No, I was referring to the cigar cigar

4825
02:54:02,050 --> 02:54:04,230
But faffy faffy.

4826
02:54:04,230 --> 02:54:06,470
I've never heard this very new term It

4827
02:54:06,470 --> 02:54:10,370
was new to me Sounds like they're just

4828
02:54:10,370 --> 02:54:12,290
throwing it in for no good reason Well,

4829
02:54:12,370 --> 02:54:12,910
it's amazing.

4830
02:54:13,050 --> 02:54:14,830
You can say anything in public in the

4831
02:54:14,830 --> 02:54:15,950
United Kingdom man.

4832
02:54:16,030 --> 02:54:17,590
Did you hear about the whatsapp thing?

4833
02:54:18,510 --> 02:54:22,710
This was interesting Some parents got arrested for

4834
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:25,570
posting something in a private group on whatsapp

4835
02:54:25,570 --> 02:54:28,230
Six police officers came to my house and

4836
02:54:28,230 --> 02:54:29,590
arrested me why?

4837
02:54:30,050 --> 02:54:32,230
Because I've been talking about my daughter's school

4838
02:54:32,230 --> 02:54:34,230
on a whatsapp group It was the morning

4839
02:54:34,230 --> 02:54:37,170
of Wednesday the 29th of January about a

4840
02:54:37,170 --> 02:54:39,050
quarter to 12 I was on a zoom

4841
02:54:39,050 --> 02:54:41,290
call for a work project when on my

4842
02:54:41,290 --> 02:54:43,610
zoom screen in the little window where I

4843
02:54:43,610 --> 02:54:46,550
saw my own face I realized that two

4844
02:54:46,550 --> 02:54:50,030
police officers were standing behind me another two

4845
02:54:50,030 --> 02:54:53,910
police officers Were arresting my partner Rosalind in

4846
02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:56,250
front of Francesca our three-year-old daughter

4847
02:54:56,250 --> 02:54:58,550
They bundled us into the police cars and

4848
02:54:58,550 --> 02:55:00,550
took us off the custody at Stevenage Police

4849
02:55:00,550 --> 02:55:02,970
Station Where we remain for the next 12

4850
02:55:02,970 --> 02:55:05,530
hours He arrested me on suspicion of harassment

4851
02:55:05,530 --> 02:55:08,510
and malicious communications and was to do with

4852
02:55:08,510 --> 02:55:11,530
a dispute with our daughter's primary school Which

4853
02:55:11,530 --> 02:55:14,110
began with posts on a whatsapp group?

4854
02:55:14,150 --> 02:55:16,570
Are you interested to hear what horrible things

4855
02:55:16,570 --> 02:55:17,770
they did in the whatsapp group?

4856
02:55:18,750 --> 02:55:20,930
You know, this has been going on now

4857
02:55:20,930 --> 02:55:25,110
for some some some time in England and

4858
02:55:25,110 --> 02:55:27,490
it's discouraging And and you have to wonder

4859
02:55:27,490 --> 02:55:29,750
you know about the mentality of the police

4860
02:55:29,750 --> 02:55:31,730
who have or enforcing these laws They seem

4861
02:55:31,730 --> 02:55:33,170
to be doing with some relish.

4862
02:55:33,590 --> 02:55:38,070
Oh, yeah, I find disturbing They enjoy it

4863
02:55:38,710 --> 02:55:41,730
Well the beats going after people with guns

4864
02:55:41,730 --> 02:55:43,050
and zombie knives.

4865
02:55:43,170 --> 02:55:45,150
I mean, hey Might as well take the

4866
02:55:45,150 --> 02:55:47,210
squad down and arrest these two parents on

4867
02:55:47,210 --> 02:55:51,150
the 23rd of November 2023 the head teacher

4868
02:55:51,150 --> 02:55:54,050
of my daughter's primary school announced he would

4869
02:55:54,050 --> 02:55:56,690
retire But what seems strange to me was

4870
02:55:56,690 --> 02:56:00,310
the board of governors decided immediately to appoint

4871
02:56:00,310 --> 02:56:03,890
the deputy head as acting head Ten months

4872
02:56:03,890 --> 02:56:07,190
later without even advertising the job.

4873
02:56:07,390 --> 02:56:10,250
So I made some inquiries I contacted the

4874
02:56:10,250 --> 02:56:12,630
chair of governors in private and in good

4875
02:56:12,630 --> 02:56:15,030
faith and asked her to explain what a

4876
02:56:15,030 --> 02:56:17,210
Rationale was what was going to happen her

4877
02:56:17,210 --> 02:56:21,910
response in my opinion was rather evasive So

4878
02:56:21,910 --> 02:56:24,150
I asked again and I wrote to all

4879
02:56:24,150 --> 02:56:26,890
the governors asking them to explain what was

4880
02:56:26,890 --> 02:56:29,130
happening and why they decided to do that

4881
02:56:29,130 --> 02:56:31,970
I posted that letter in a whatsapp group

4882
02:56:31,970 --> 02:56:35,810
It's a private parents whatsapp group on that

4883
02:56:35,810 --> 02:56:37,590
whatsapp group like most parents.

4884
02:56:37,810 --> 02:56:40,430
We chanted about a few things One thing

4885
02:56:40,430 --> 02:56:42,790
we talked about on that group was a

4886
02:56:42,790 --> 02:56:46,070
letter from the school Commanding all parents not

4887
02:56:46,070 --> 02:56:48,450
to talk about the school on Facebook or

4888
02:56:48,450 --> 02:56:51,030
social media or whatsapp groups We thought that

4889
02:56:51,030 --> 02:56:51,650
was a bit off.

4890
02:56:51,850 --> 02:56:54,730
My partner Rosalind made a handful of vaguely

4891
02:56:54,730 --> 02:56:58,210
spicy comments She referred to one school leader

4892
02:56:58,210 --> 02:57:00,790
as a control freak She said the chair

4893
02:57:00,790 --> 02:57:03,950
of governors didn't know much about anything Out

4894
02:57:03,950 --> 02:57:05,810
of the blue on the 12th of July

4895
02:57:05,810 --> 02:57:07,910
last year the chair of governors wrote to

4896
02:57:07,910 --> 02:57:11,510
Rosalind and me she accused us of posting

4897
02:57:12,290 --> 02:57:16,870
disparaging and inflammatory comments on whatsapp and Facebook

4898
02:57:20,330 --> 02:57:23,150
Yeah, you thought crimes you can't do anything

4899
02:57:23,150 --> 02:57:26,170
anymore in the UK And you can't even

4900
02:57:26,170 --> 02:57:26,990
say you have a wife.

4901
02:57:27,090 --> 02:57:28,230
You have to call it your partner.

4902
02:57:28,530 --> 02:57:31,790
I've never understood that They never say my

4903
02:57:31,790 --> 02:57:32,710
wife's and my partner.

4904
02:57:32,990 --> 02:57:33,910
Maybe they're not married.

4905
02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:34,970
No, they're married.

4906
02:57:35,050 --> 02:57:37,810
They're married They're married and they're calling her

4907
02:57:37,810 --> 02:57:38,470
the partner.

4908
02:57:38,590 --> 02:57:41,150
It's a very standard thing in the UK

4909
02:57:41,150 --> 02:57:44,850
and Australia as well It's it's it's a

4910
02:57:44,850 --> 02:57:47,390
bit of a woke thing Because I don't

4911
02:57:47,390 --> 02:57:51,710
want to see my wife By donating to

4912
02:57:51,710 --> 02:57:53,890
no agenda imagine all the people who could

4913
02:57:53,890 --> 02:57:54,430
do that.

4914
02:57:54,530 --> 02:58:03,890
Oh, yeah Well, what are the odds my

4915
02:58:03,890 --> 02:58:07,010
partner here is going to read off the

4916
02:58:07,010 --> 02:58:10,170
Supporters financial supporters who sent us back value

4917
02:58:10,170 --> 02:58:12,310
in our value for value model $50 and

4918
02:58:12,310 --> 02:58:14,010
above remember We do have John's tip of

4919
02:58:14,010 --> 02:58:16,050
the day coming up some kick-ass mixes

4920
02:58:16,050 --> 02:58:18,810
from the clip custodian and David Kekta and

4921
02:58:18,810 --> 02:58:21,710
some real ISOs to to end the show

4922
02:58:21,710 --> 02:58:23,750
with that one with the nice meetup reports

4923
02:58:23,750 --> 02:58:25,490
and more to come So John take it

4924
02:58:25,490 --> 02:58:26,410
away my partner.

4925
02:58:26,590 --> 02:58:32,390
Sure Sure partner, Sean Sean Holman Maybe a

4926
02:58:32,390 --> 02:58:38,470
relation that Noblesville Noblesville, Indiana 14848 and this

4927
02:58:38,470 --> 02:58:39,570
is I thought was interesting.

4928
02:58:39,750 --> 02:58:40,850
It's calling out D.

4929
02:58:40,950 --> 02:58:47,090
Nice as a juice bag Juice bag, we

4930
02:58:47,090 --> 02:58:50,210
get a douche bag for the juice bag.

4931
02:58:50,290 --> 02:58:51,090
I don't know what that is.

4932
02:58:51,130 --> 02:58:51,250
Sir.

4933
02:58:51,290 --> 02:58:51,510
Beep.

4934
02:58:51,670 --> 02:58:52,150
Boop.

4935
02:58:52,310 --> 02:58:58,630
111 11 11 11 He's the knight of

4936
02:58:58,630 --> 02:59:03,470
the frozen tundra Jennifer What do you think

4937
02:59:03,470 --> 02:59:07,910
5e 5e 5e 5e 5e a fiber of

4938
02:59:07,910 --> 02:59:10,190
5e 5e 5e in Calgary, Alberta?

4939
02:59:10,190 --> 02:59:12,690
I have to uh, I have to read

4940
02:59:12,690 --> 02:59:16,330
this note She's in Calgary $100 33 cents

4941
02:59:16,330 --> 02:59:18,090
it we love you guys up here in

4942
02:59:18,090 --> 02:59:18,670
Candanavia.

4943
02:59:18,850 --> 02:59:19,950
So there you go.

4944
02:59:20,010 --> 02:59:20,310
Huh?

4945
02:59:20,730 --> 02:59:23,610
Yeah, can we get some IVF?

4946
02:59:24,170 --> 02:59:26,690
Baby making karma for our daughter and her

4947
02:59:26,690 --> 02:59:27,150
husband.

4948
02:59:27,270 --> 02:59:28,310
Let's do it right away.

4949
02:59:28,310 --> 02:59:29,630
Let's not delay.

4950
02:59:29,850 --> 02:59:38,970
You've got Karma remember After us, yep, it's

4951
02:59:38,970 --> 02:59:40,070
gotta be one test the rule.

4952
02:59:40,170 --> 02:59:44,530
That's the rule Brian Warden in Cumming, Georgia

4953
02:59:44,850 --> 02:59:50,890
100 I'll leave the note to it.

4954
02:59:50,930 --> 02:59:54,030
So then I have a blank line Well

4955
02:59:54,030 --> 02:59:56,190
for a hundred somebody was there.

4956
02:59:56,290 --> 02:59:58,670
I wonder if it's this happens all the

4957
02:59:58,670 --> 02:59:59,850
time more recently.

4958
03:00:00,090 --> 03:00:02,450
There's a there's no name How does that

4959
03:00:02,450 --> 03:00:02,850
work?

4960
03:00:05,260 --> 03:00:09,760
sir, Kelly and Dame Andrea in Rocky Mountain

4961
03:00:09,760 --> 03:00:12,260
House, Alberta Canada another Albertan.

4962
03:00:12,440 --> 03:00:13,780
They love us man They want to be

4963
03:00:13,780 --> 03:00:14,960
part of us.

4964
03:00:15,080 --> 03:00:15,580
No jingles.

4965
03:00:15,640 --> 03:00:21,620
No karma $100 Jason Mara Mara in Vancouver,

4966
03:00:21,920 --> 03:00:26,240
Washington the smart money area $100 You know

4967
03:00:26,240 --> 03:00:29,460
to pay taxes for anything Aaron Weiberg in

4968
03:00:29,460 --> 03:00:32,480
Roberts, Wisconsin 8438 there is Kevin McLaughlin.

4969
03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:34,800
He's the Archduke of Luna lover of American

4970
03:00:34,800 --> 03:00:39,560
boobs 8008 Brandon Locklear in Sugar Hill, Georgia

4971
03:00:40,360 --> 03:00:43,600
7373 73 73 is kilo 5 alpha Charlie

4972
03:00:43,600 --> 03:00:44,880
Charlie could have put his call.

4973
03:00:45,000 --> 03:00:45,860
Yeah, where's your call?

4974
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:48,840
Where's your call sign man Dame Dana Carol

4975
03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:50,320
in Laughlin, Nevada?

4976
03:00:51,560 --> 03:00:57,100
7227 Jorge Alvarez and Ponte Verde Fedra Ponte

4977
03:00:57,100 --> 03:01:02,040
Vedra Beach 7171 sir Andrew Walker in Pittsburgh,

4978
03:01:02,580 --> 03:01:06,560
Pennsylvania 66 78 I got a birthday call

4979
03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:12,200
out for March 30th It's nice too late,

4980
03:01:12,380 --> 03:01:13,720
you know, it's not too late not Craig

4981
03:01:13,720 --> 03:01:17,700
Kohler in Evansville, Indiana 650 there it is

4982
03:01:17,700 --> 03:01:22,460
the chip donation 6502 that's the third one.

4983
03:01:22,580 --> 03:01:25,700
I think and that great promotion fantastic promotion

4984
03:01:26,580 --> 03:01:32,400
Jamie Buell and Vista, California 6006 Sir, dr.

4985
03:01:32,540 --> 03:01:39,680
Sharkey in Jackson, Tennessee 56 78 Anything there

4986
03:01:39,680 --> 03:01:44,220
no, sir Lucas in Federal Way, Washington 55

4987
03:01:44,220 --> 03:01:50,560
10 Cameron Ling in North Branch, Minnesota 50

4988
03:01:50,560 --> 03:01:56,720
or 52 Sir prize surprise in Yukon, Oklahoma

4989
03:01:56,720 --> 03:02:04,200
5444 the Window washer in Annandale, Virginia 5393

4990
03:02:05,540 --> 03:02:10,060
With the comment nothing funny here Sir, Selverin

4991
03:02:10,060 --> 03:02:13,560
in Silver Spring, Maryland 5150 and now we're

4992
03:02:13,560 --> 03:02:14,660
already to the 50s.

4993
03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:17,520
By the way, this Silverman is a late

4994
03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:18,520
Saturday, don't they?

4995
03:02:18,620 --> 03:02:18,740
Okay.

4996
03:02:18,900 --> 03:02:20,400
That's a birthday me.

4997
03:02:20,600 --> 03:02:21,200
No, it's not.

4998
03:02:21,780 --> 03:02:22,020
Okay.

4999
03:02:22,040 --> 03:02:24,740
Here's the 50s name and location starting with

5000
03:02:25,360 --> 03:02:29,140
Simon Shong who I have no location for

5001
03:02:29,140 --> 03:02:34,960
Bobby bow in Bluegrass, Louisiana leaf Thompson in

5002
03:02:34,960 --> 03:02:44,560
Meridian, Idaho and we got Schoen zone which

5003
03:02:44,560 --> 03:02:48,380
shown zone son-in-law in Amsterdam okay

5004
03:02:48,380 --> 03:02:50,800
in Amsterdam 50 and the last time there's

5005
03:02:50,800 --> 03:02:54,320
another short list today Joshua Johnson in Omaha

5006
03:02:54,320 --> 03:02:54,840
50.

5007
03:02:55,020 --> 03:02:55,820
That's the end of it.

5008
03:02:56,060 --> 03:02:58,560
That's the end of it That's gonna thank

5009
03:02:58,560 --> 03:03:02,640
these people for show us 17 17 51.

5010
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:03,340
Yes.

5011
03:03:03,400 --> 03:03:05,340
Thank you all for those of you who

5012
03:03:05,340 --> 03:03:06,980
supported us and those who came in under

5013
03:03:06,980 --> 03:03:10,240
$50 We never mentioned those for anonymity anonymity

5014
03:03:10,240 --> 03:03:12,860
reasons for reasons of anonymity and of course

5015
03:03:12,860 --> 03:03:15,180
the sustaining donors We appreciate everything that you

5016
03:03:15,180 --> 03:03:17,080
have done by going to know agenda donations

5017
03:03:17,080 --> 03:03:20,320
comm Filling out a recurring donation any amount

5018
03:03:20,320 --> 03:03:22,320
any frequency and of course, you can always

5019
03:03:22,320 --> 03:03:24,240
make up your own number We love the

5020
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:24,860
numerology.

5021
03:03:25,260 --> 03:03:26,120
Please support the show.

5022
03:03:26,260 --> 03:03:28,180
Keep it going for another four more years.

5023
03:03:28,240 --> 03:03:29,260
No agenda donations.

5024
03:03:29,480 --> 03:03:31,100
This is Tom Thank you for your support

5025
03:03:34,860 --> 03:03:37,640
We say happy birthday to hope wicker she

5026
03:03:37,640 --> 03:03:40,100
turned eight on the 28th sir Andrew Walker

5027
03:03:40,100 --> 03:03:44,380
celebrates today Evan Mackey turns 19 tomorrow, sir

5028
03:03:44,380 --> 03:03:48,020
McBarfie wishes sir Thomas McKean a happy one

5029
03:03:48,020 --> 03:03:50,740
on April 2nd That is Liberation Day also

5030
03:03:50,740 --> 03:03:53,140
celebrating a Liberation Day is sir Cane break

5031
03:03:53,140 --> 03:03:56,120
Commodore of the Cane River Lake and Justine

5032
03:03:56,120 --> 03:03:58,340
wishes her husband Carl a happy birthday He

5033
03:03:58,340 --> 03:03:59,920
turns 34 years old.

5034
03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:01,760
We say happy birthday on behalf of everybody

5035
03:04:01,760 --> 03:04:04,240
here at the best podcast in the universe

5036
03:04:05,720 --> 03:04:08,220
We do have two Commodores are very proud

5037
03:04:08,220 --> 03:04:09,620
to bring them up these of course are

5038
03:04:09,620 --> 03:04:11,880
the official Commodore titles that you can only

5039
03:04:11,880 --> 03:04:13,700
get at the no agenda show, so we

5040
03:04:14,700 --> 03:04:17,980
Congratulate Commodore mech and Commodore sir Mark Both

5041
03:04:17,980 --> 03:04:20,180
of you are now Commodores of no agenda

5042
03:04:20,180 --> 03:04:22,300
go to no agenda rings comm to get

5043
03:04:22,300 --> 03:04:25,540
your official certificate Give us the the name

5044
03:04:25,540 --> 03:04:26,940
you want and the address you want your

5045
03:04:26,940 --> 03:04:28,780
certificate sent to it's a real one.

5046
03:04:28,860 --> 03:04:29,920
It's a doozy It's beautiful.

5047
03:04:29,980 --> 03:04:34,600
And as always Commodores arriving And we have

5048
03:04:34,600 --> 03:04:35,260
one night.

5049
03:04:35,680 --> 03:04:38,960
So let us See I got a sword

5050
03:04:38,960 --> 03:04:40,500
here you have a sword for I got

5051
03:04:40,500 --> 03:04:43,520
this one in the special sheath there it

5052
03:04:43,520 --> 03:04:53,500
is Out

5053
03:04:53,500 --> 03:04:55,840
of $1,000 or more and I'm very

5054
03:04:55,840 --> 03:04:58,640
proud to pronounce the KT not just as

5055
03:04:58,640 --> 03:05:01,680
sir Mac, but as Commodore sir Mac, that's

5056
03:05:01,680 --> 03:05:03,860
right And you are now a member of

5057
03:05:03,860 --> 03:05:05,660
the no agenda nights and dames of the

5058
03:05:05,660 --> 03:05:07,660
roundtable for you We have cookies and vodka

5059
03:05:07,660 --> 03:05:09,780
warm beer and cold women Oh forgot the

5060
03:05:09,780 --> 03:05:11,580
hookers and blow and the Brent boys and

5061
03:05:11,580 --> 03:05:14,620
chardonnay also cases and sake vodka vanilla bong

5062
03:05:14,620 --> 03:05:17,900
hits and bourbon sparkling cider nesquirt ginger ale

5063
03:05:17,900 --> 03:05:22,120
and gerbils and But as always people always

5064
03:05:22,120 --> 03:05:27,240
love Head over to No agenda rings calm.

5065
03:05:27,400 --> 03:05:28,160
It is a real ring.

5066
03:05:28,240 --> 03:05:29,860
It's a signet ring You can hit people

5067
03:05:29,860 --> 03:05:31,160
in the mouth with it We'll leave a

5068
03:05:31,160 --> 03:05:33,360
mark or you could be kind to your

5069
03:05:33,360 --> 03:05:35,060
fellow human beings and just send them a

5070
03:05:35,060 --> 03:05:36,760
letter and seal it with the wax we

5071
03:05:36,760 --> 03:05:39,420
provide for all of your important Correspondence and

5072
03:05:39,420 --> 03:05:41,900
that also comes with a certificate of authenticity.

5073
03:05:42,200 --> 03:05:55,440
Welcome to the roundtable Commodore sir Mac Meetups

5074
03:05:55,440 --> 03:05:58,200
they're happening all around the world almost every

5075
03:05:58,200 --> 03:06:00,500
single day of the week Apparently we had

5076
03:06:00,500 --> 03:06:02,100
a couple of problems with the no agenda

5077
03:06:02,100 --> 03:06:04,000
meetups comm website I know sir.

5078
03:06:04,020 --> 03:06:06,380
Daniel is working on that, but we do

5079
03:06:06,380 --> 03:06:08,600
believe we have a complete lineup for you

5080
03:06:08,600 --> 03:06:10,380
But first we have some reports This is

5081
03:06:10,380 --> 03:06:13,360
the 61st meetup from the flight of the

5082
03:06:13,360 --> 03:06:14,900
no agendas Leo Bravo all the way from

5083
03:06:14,900 --> 03:06:15,900
New York to Los Angeles Taking care of

5084
03:06:15,900 --> 03:06:17,500
that in somewhere in California.

5085
03:06:17,640 --> 03:06:18,160
Hey everybody.

5086
03:06:18,540 --> 03:06:21,180
It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 61 I'm

5087
03:06:21,180 --> 03:06:23,720
passing the phone around my friends have things

5088
03:06:23,720 --> 03:06:24,180
to say.

5089
03:06:24,300 --> 03:06:27,940
This is toast ITM sir toast Jim new

5090
03:06:27,940 --> 03:06:31,320
to Fullerton, but I'm here Enjoyed your meeting

5091
03:06:31,320 --> 03:06:35,080
James by your friends trains good Planes next

5092
03:06:35,080 --> 03:06:35,460
time.

5093
03:06:35,520 --> 03:06:36,040
Hey, John.

5094
03:06:36,080 --> 03:06:37,800
I'm surely it can fall pop Just checking

5095
03:06:37,800 --> 03:06:40,460
to see if code Bongino still works Jim

5096
03:06:40,460 --> 03:06:42,100
better say 10-4 to all this nice

5097
03:06:42,100 --> 03:06:45,100
people in the morning answer the question go

5098
03:06:45,100 --> 03:06:47,280
Steven of the Orange Curtain John You'd be

5099
03:06:47,280 --> 03:06:50,400
interested to know there are very many young

5100
03:06:50,400 --> 03:06:52,940
foamers here at the Fullerton train station in

5101
03:06:52,940 --> 03:06:54,480
the morning This is Angie from the ranch

5102
03:06:54,480 --> 03:06:56,620
having a great time at the Fullerton meetup

5103
03:06:59,580 --> 03:07:01,920
Sounds like you missed a good foamer meetup

5104
03:07:01,920 --> 03:07:04,460
John can't you gotta get to those foamer

5105
03:07:04,460 --> 03:07:07,520
meetups Big one is always from our indie

5106
03:07:07,520 --> 03:07:07,840
group.

5107
03:07:07,960 --> 03:07:09,700
They are big They are large they are

5108
03:07:09,700 --> 03:07:12,140
in charge and they always include their server

5109
03:07:12,140 --> 03:07:16,860
in their meetups report Having a great time

5110
03:07:16,860 --> 03:07:19,460
with our no agenda family here in Indianapolis

5111
03:07:19,460 --> 03:07:22,520
drinking some beer and a converted Catholic Church

5112
03:07:22,520 --> 03:07:23,080
Thank you.

5113
03:07:23,180 --> 03:07:23,620
St. Joseph.

5114
03:07:23,840 --> 03:07:24,780
Hey, it's Gary here.

5115
03:07:24,880 --> 03:07:27,240
Look out people the brains of the DNC

5116
03:07:27,240 --> 03:07:29,780
are out on tour Yes, that's right AOC

5117
03:07:29,780 --> 03:07:32,280
Bernie Sanders are out there to rally the

5118
03:07:32,280 --> 03:07:34,960
troops Look out not a from Indianapolis just

5119
03:07:34,960 --> 03:07:37,020
happened to see that diesel at Costco is

5120
03:07:37,620 --> 03:07:41,440
333 Joshua crumb from Indianapolis, hopefully I can

5121
03:07:41,440 --> 03:07:43,700
get in for the Commodore in the morning.

5122
03:07:43,700 --> 03:07:45,520
Mrs Alicia may come from Carmel.

5123
03:07:45,760 --> 03:07:48,200
I'm syrup of the maple and my immigration

5124
03:07:48,200 --> 03:07:50,060
attorney has advised me not to make any

5125
03:07:50,060 --> 03:07:51,820
comment So every day I get to work

5126
03:07:51,820 --> 03:07:53,720
and I'm like, I'm surrounded by fed fed

5127
03:07:53,720 --> 03:07:54,260
fed.

5128
03:07:54,560 --> 03:07:56,720
I realize I am a fed Emily in

5129
03:07:56,720 --> 03:07:57,940
the morning brisket here.

5130
03:07:58,140 --> 03:07:59,540
Just drink us a beer in the church

5131
03:07:59,540 --> 03:08:01,940
a net ski here Just drinking some bourbon

5132
03:08:01,940 --> 03:08:03,900
in the church with the feds.

5133
03:08:03,960 --> 03:08:06,100
Hello This is Baltimore's and in ski and

5134
03:08:06,100 --> 03:08:07,260
I can do tariffs too.

5135
03:08:07,400 --> 03:08:10,620
I'm going to put tariffs on prostitution drugs

5136
03:08:11,640 --> 03:08:16,080
crocodile marijuana AK-47s all those things so

5137
03:08:16,080 --> 03:08:16,860
take that Trump.

5138
03:08:17,000 --> 03:08:18,700
Hi, this is Katie from the st.

5139
03:08:18,900 --> 03:08:22,240
Joseph's brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana It's been a

5140
03:08:22,240 --> 03:08:24,860
pleasure to host the no agenda folks, and

5141
03:08:24,860 --> 03:08:26,520
I look forward to seeing them again.

5142
03:08:26,640 --> 03:08:28,980
Hey, this is Carol I am in training

5143
03:08:28,980 --> 03:08:29,400
at st.

5144
03:08:29,500 --> 03:08:31,820
Joseph's brewery, and I've also had been a

5145
03:08:31,820 --> 03:08:41,620
pleasure Not

5146
03:08:41,620 --> 03:08:44,080
one but two servers in the report I

5147
03:08:44,080 --> 03:08:46,600
love those guys Thank You Indiana Indy meetup

5148
03:08:46,600 --> 03:08:48,440
those guys are good They're glad we got

5149
03:08:48,440 --> 03:08:50,260
the Wiggins Olinsky finally came up.

5150
03:08:50,340 --> 03:08:51,260
He finally showed up.

5151
03:08:51,320 --> 03:08:53,420
I can't believe he's putting the tariffs on

5152
03:08:53,420 --> 03:08:56,480
hookers Oh that guy There is a meetup

5153
03:08:56,480 --> 03:08:59,240
underway the TMI evac zone crossword puzzle meetup

5154
03:08:59,240 --> 03:09:01,480
But it started at 330 at evergreen brewing

5155
03:09:01,480 --> 03:09:02,680
in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.

5156
03:09:02,680 --> 03:09:06,280
I'm sure they're still going strong Tomorrow April

5157
03:09:06,280 --> 03:09:09,300
Fool's Day meetup not for fools at 530.

5158
03:09:09,440 --> 03:09:12,080
That'll be at Barley's in downtown, Knoxville, Tennessee

5159
03:09:12,640 --> 03:09:15,380
Also on April Fool's Day Springfield, Missouri ain't

5160
03:09:15,380 --> 03:09:17,240
no fool meetup see there's a theme here

5161
03:09:17,240 --> 03:09:20,260
six o'clock It bears all-american sports

5162
03:09:20,260 --> 03:09:22,960
bar and grill in Springfield, Missouri Then on

5163
03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:25,560
Thursday Oh nothing on Liberation Day I want

5164
03:09:25,560 --> 03:09:27,280
to miss the opportunity on Thursday our next

5165
03:09:27,280 --> 03:09:29,060
show day the no agenda, New York City

5166
03:09:29,060 --> 03:09:30,980
meetup Yes, there are still normal people in

5167
03:09:30,980 --> 03:09:32,700
New York City five o'clock at the

5168
03:09:32,700 --> 03:09:35,540
perfect pint West in New York City, New

5169
03:09:35,540 --> 03:09:37,860
York, New York And finally also on the

5170
03:09:37,860 --> 03:09:41,820
third Thursday Northern Wake Publical slave gala the

5171
03:09:41,820 --> 03:09:44,400
gathering that'll be at 6 o'clock at

5172
03:09:44,400 --> 03:09:47,960
hoppy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina Many more

5173
03:09:47,960 --> 03:09:50,940
meetups to come including Osaka Japan on April

5174
03:09:50,940 --> 03:09:51,380
5th.

5175
03:09:51,380 --> 03:09:53,200
Make sure you check that one out I

5176
03:09:53,200 --> 03:09:55,000
know there was a big meetup in the

5177
03:09:55,000 --> 03:09:55,580
lowlands.

5178
03:09:55,780 --> 03:09:57,620
I got pictures and everyone's having a good

5179
03:09:57,620 --> 03:09:59,200
time So I expect to meet up reports

5180
03:09:59,200 --> 03:10:01,340
from them, which is usually quite inebriated.

5181
03:10:01,440 --> 03:10:03,500
We love the meetup reports We love the

5182
03:10:03,500 --> 03:10:06,100
meetups They're producer organized you get out of

5183
03:10:06,100 --> 03:10:07,360
it what you put into it go to

5184
03:10:07,360 --> 03:10:10,180
no agenda meetups comm guaranteed though You will

5185
03:10:10,180 --> 03:10:12,300
always have a party if you can't find

5186
03:10:12,300 --> 03:10:13,720
one near you start one yourself.

5187
03:10:13,960 --> 03:10:35,440
No agenda meetups And

5188
03:10:35,440 --> 03:10:37,440
yes, thank you trolls I made a mistake,

5189
03:10:37,540 --> 03:10:41,300
of course tomorrow is not the first but

5190
03:10:41,900 --> 03:10:45,580
Tuesday is the first And that was incorrect

5191
03:10:45,580 --> 03:10:49,400
in my crib sheet There's a 31st day

5192
03:10:49,400 --> 03:10:51,420
of March, so yes, that was my mistake

5193
03:10:51,420 --> 03:10:54,100
kind of I should have known better where

5194
03:10:54,100 --> 03:10:56,260
was my partner Where's my partner correcting me?

5195
03:10:57,680 --> 03:11:02,140
But I said Monday the first It's yeah,

5196
03:11:02,240 --> 03:11:03,440
yeah, that was a mistake.

5197
03:11:03,660 --> 03:11:06,080
Yeah All right.

5198
03:11:06,120 --> 03:11:08,100
I so time I've got three they're real.

5199
03:11:08,220 --> 03:11:09,320
They're not AI generated.

5200
03:11:09,580 --> 03:11:10,360
Let's see how we do.

5201
03:11:10,500 --> 03:11:11,980
I think there's some real evil out there

5202
03:11:13,020 --> 03:11:13,440
Hmm.

5203
03:11:13,840 --> 03:11:14,040
Okay.

5204
03:11:14,100 --> 03:11:15,840
No Delete that one.

5205
03:11:15,940 --> 03:11:16,380
How about this?

5206
03:11:16,520 --> 03:11:18,140
There's a good side and there's a dark

5207
03:11:18,140 --> 03:11:22,120
side just like Star Wars Too long kind

5208
03:11:22,120 --> 03:11:22,900
of how about this one?

5209
03:11:22,900 --> 03:11:23,860
I think you'll like this one.

5210
03:11:24,100 --> 03:11:25,140
You guys are freaks.

5211
03:11:25,480 --> 03:11:26,240
How about that?

5212
03:11:26,260 --> 03:11:29,280
That's pretty good There's nothing very complimentary about

5213
03:11:29,280 --> 03:11:29,840
the show.

5214
03:11:30,180 --> 03:11:33,400
Oh You would how about just fun and

5215
03:11:33,400 --> 03:11:33,740
humor?

5216
03:11:33,900 --> 03:11:35,100
No, no good.

5217
03:11:35,160 --> 03:11:35,520
Okay.

5218
03:11:35,780 --> 03:11:37,520
So what are your AI generated?

5219
03:11:37,620 --> 03:11:39,920
I so my AI generated I got to

5220
03:11:41,040 --> 03:11:44,640
Any better the show can't be any better

5221
03:11:44,640 --> 03:11:50,820
than that Yeah, how can I beat that

5222
03:11:50,820 --> 03:11:53,540
where's the yo-yo yo, what's up I'm

5223
03:11:53,540 --> 03:11:55,820
still working on it Mimi's actually working on

5224
03:11:55,820 --> 03:11:57,700
it too and she can't It's not as

5225
03:11:57,700 --> 03:12:00,460
easy as it looks Can some of our

5226
03:12:00,460 --> 03:12:02,500
hip-hop trolls just send me a yo

5227
03:12:02,500 --> 03:12:04,100
-yo yo, what's up, so I can just

5228
03:12:04,100 --> 03:12:08,020
What up, yeah, so we can get this

5229
03:12:08,020 --> 03:12:10,340
off our plates, please great show is the

5230
03:12:10,340 --> 03:12:14,960
other one great show boys Yeah, I think

5231
03:12:14,960 --> 03:12:17,960
I think this is obviously complimentary the show

5232
03:12:17,960 --> 03:12:20,360
can't be any better than that I mean,

5233
03:12:20,440 --> 03:12:21,720
that's you have to go with that.

5234
03:12:21,780 --> 03:12:23,280
It's kind of self-serving and kind of

5235
03:12:23,280 --> 03:12:27,500
pathetic because yeah Yeah, not pathetic the result

5236
03:12:27,500 --> 03:12:30,860
you yes Bob you're saying it's not pathetic.

5237
03:12:31,040 --> 03:12:33,400
You're saying it's pathetic because it's AI generated

5238
03:12:33,400 --> 03:12:36,060
It is the results of a 100 billion

5239
03:12:36,060 --> 03:12:39,820
dollar per company Think about the money we

5240
03:12:39,820 --> 03:12:56,660
save there you go I'm

5241
03:12:56,660 --> 03:12:58,120
gonna do an off-handed tip of the

5242
03:12:58,120 --> 03:12:58,260
day.

5243
03:12:58,320 --> 03:12:59,420
That's not the tip of the day Just

5244
03:12:59,420 --> 03:13:01,300
said just a suggestion for people like this

5245
03:13:01,300 --> 03:13:02,040
shop at Costco.

5246
03:13:02,260 --> 03:13:07,280
Mm-hmm the grass-fed Butter in the

5247
03:13:07,280 --> 03:13:08,360
green packaging.

5248
03:13:08,760 --> 03:13:13,160
Yes, Tina loves that stuff Is excellent.

5249
03:13:13,360 --> 03:13:15,180
Yes, I think is as good as the

5250
03:13:15,180 --> 03:13:20,620
importance butters it she loves that stuff Yes,

5251
03:13:20,680 --> 03:13:23,660
all the carnivores love that stuff they just

5252
03:13:23,660 --> 03:13:26,060
eat it out of the pack It's a

5253
03:13:26,060 --> 03:13:29,240
great product Carnivores man, the carnivore diet.

5254
03:13:29,440 --> 03:13:31,080
It's like they eat butter like a stick

5255
03:13:31,080 --> 03:13:32,880
looks like you put just there's a piece

5256
03:13:32,880 --> 03:13:34,580
of bag I got a butter popsicle.

5257
03:13:34,660 --> 03:13:43,420
That's pretty much Side tip side tip of

5258
03:13:43,420 --> 03:13:43,740
the day.

5259
03:13:43,780 --> 03:13:44,060
Okay.

5260
03:13:44,220 --> 03:13:47,980
Sorry perfect glass Though I'm telling you this

5261
03:13:47,980 --> 03:13:52,060
company hopes It's a there's a cleaning product

5262
03:13:52,060 --> 03:13:54,280
again a cleaning product company, but I'm telling

5263
03:13:54,280 --> 03:13:59,580
you hopes perfect line of Cleaners and there's

5264
03:13:59,580 --> 03:14:01,220
a bunch of them perfect glasses the one

5265
03:14:01,220 --> 03:14:02,500
I'm going to mention here, but there's also

5266
03:14:02,500 --> 03:14:04,560
a perfect sink Which is a stunner?

5267
03:14:05,140 --> 03:14:08,280
perfect sink will hopes is the brand a

5268
03:14:09,800 --> 03:14:13,580
very Advanced product they're using the I don't

5269
03:14:13,580 --> 03:14:15,180
know what tech they're using but they can

5270
03:14:15,960 --> 03:14:19,480
Polish stainless steel sinks with this hopes perfect

5271
03:14:19,480 --> 03:14:22,560
sink You wouldn't believe what you end up

5272
03:14:22,560 --> 03:14:25,220
with it stainless steel the funny thing about

5273
03:14:25,220 --> 03:14:29,880
stainless steel is stainless steel stains and Stainless

5274
03:14:29,880 --> 03:14:31,500
steel stains easily.

5275
03:14:31,680 --> 03:14:33,760
Yes, and this is for stainless steel sinks

5276
03:14:34,500 --> 03:14:36,800
Not no perfect glasses for windows.

5277
03:14:37,000 --> 03:14:37,240
Okay.

5278
03:14:37,420 --> 03:14:40,440
Yeah, perfect sink is for stainless steel sinks

5279
03:14:40,440 --> 03:14:42,340
But they also have a stainless steel perfect

5280
03:14:42,340 --> 03:14:45,240
stainless steel for other appliances that are made

5281
03:14:45,240 --> 03:14:47,680
out of stainless steel Wow, but the hopes

5282
03:14:47,680 --> 03:14:50,620
the entire hopes line of cleaning products is

5283
03:14:51,500 --> 03:14:54,260
World-class and for example, the perfect glass

5284
03:14:54,260 --> 03:14:56,820
is not like Windex which you know Windex

5285
03:14:56,820 --> 03:14:59,120
It's like they've been coasting for years on

5286
03:14:59,120 --> 03:15:02,740
their ammonia base It's no good Windex, you

5287
03:15:02,740 --> 03:15:06,740
know Windex here in Texas All the the

5288
03:15:06,740 --> 03:15:10,800
Mexicans use Windex for everything Yeah, you got

5289
03:15:10,800 --> 03:15:12,140
a scrape it's got a lot of ammonia

5290
03:15:12,140 --> 03:15:13,980
and it does clean Yeah, no you you

5291
03:15:13,980 --> 03:15:15,820
got a cut but if we're glasses it

5292
03:15:15,820 --> 03:15:17,820
for glass, it doesn't clean Well, it doesn't

5293
03:15:17,820 --> 03:15:19,180
really do the trick hopes.

5294
03:15:19,300 --> 03:15:21,700
I'm going to get some Tina's always complaining

5295
03:15:21,700 --> 03:15:23,880
about the glass always Well, then she'll love

5296
03:15:23,880 --> 03:15:27,040
perfect glass perfect glass from hopes hopes perfect

5297
03:15:27,040 --> 03:15:27,600
glass.

5298
03:15:27,740 --> 03:15:29,500
I am do they have it for toilet

5299
03:15:29,500 --> 03:15:29,900
bowls?

5300
03:15:31,340 --> 03:15:33,320
Well, they already did the toilet bowl with

5301
03:15:33,320 --> 03:15:37,420
Lysol That's right Maybe was a competing product.

5302
03:15:37,620 --> 03:15:39,580
I'm not doing any more toilet bowl stuff.

5303
03:15:39,960 --> 03:15:40,320
Actually.

5304
03:15:40,440 --> 03:15:42,560
I talked to Mimi about these suggestions She

5305
03:15:42,560 --> 03:15:44,380
had another toilet bowl suggestions.

5306
03:15:44,600 --> 03:15:46,560
No, where's Mimi's Mimi?

5307
03:15:46,700 --> 03:15:48,200
Get your head out of the toilet bowl.

5308
03:15:48,240 --> 03:15:49,880
We got to stop this These are serious

5309
03:15:49,880 --> 03:15:50,660
tips of the day.

5310
03:15:50,720 --> 03:15:51,860
Check it out a tip of the day.

5311
03:15:51,940 --> 03:16:01,840
Not that no agenda fun calm And Sometimes

5312
03:16:03,140 --> 03:16:06,400
Created by Dana Brunetti Wow But these are

5313
03:16:06,400 --> 03:16:07,020
good tips.

5314
03:16:07,120 --> 03:16:09,160
I mean we actually wind up buying some

5315
03:16:09,160 --> 03:16:12,720
of this stuff because we trust you You're

5316
03:16:12,720 --> 03:16:13,940
a trustworthy guy.

5317
03:16:14,140 --> 03:16:15,900
I am I'm very trustworthy.

5318
03:16:16,100 --> 03:16:18,080
I wanted to do a series of books

5319
03:16:18,080 --> 03:16:23,360
called honest John Ha ha Right after the

5320
03:16:23,360 --> 03:16:26,720
Podfather Awards the microphone company the vinegar book

5321
03:16:26,720 --> 03:16:28,920
and many other great thing, you know what?

5322
03:16:29,060 --> 03:16:30,500
Why don't we just do another show on

5323
03:16:30,500 --> 03:16:30,900
Thursday?

5324
03:16:31,000 --> 03:16:31,980
Why don't we try that?

5325
03:16:32,380 --> 03:16:33,420
There's an idea.

5326
03:16:33,580 --> 03:16:34,280
Let's do that.

5327
03:16:34,340 --> 03:16:35,620
At least we can get that done.

5328
03:16:35,700 --> 03:16:37,360
We can get that produced Thank you to

5329
03:16:37,360 --> 03:16:40,240
everybody who helps produce this show Monetarily and

5330
03:16:40,240 --> 03:16:42,540
otherwise it is all highly valued and highly

5331
03:16:42,540 --> 03:16:45,320
appreciated Coming up next on the no agenda

5332
03:16:45,320 --> 03:16:48,140
stream or in your modern podcast app random

5333
03:16:48,140 --> 03:16:50,600
thoughts That's another good show.

5334
03:16:50,780 --> 03:16:52,160
All of these shows are good and no

5335
03:16:52,160 --> 03:16:52,840
agenda stream.

5336
03:16:52,940 --> 03:16:56,640
It's just got great shows also Excellent and

5337
03:16:56,640 --> 03:16:59,480
outstanding end of show mixes from David Cacta

5338
03:16:59,480 --> 03:17:02,180
and the clip custodian Neil Jones checks in

5339
03:17:02,180 --> 03:17:05,220
with a double head Coming to you from

5340
03:17:05,220 --> 03:17:07,280
the heart of the Texas Hill Country right

5341
03:17:07,280 --> 03:17:10,600
here in FEMA Region number six for as

5342
03:17:10,600 --> 03:17:13,080
long as people understand what that means in

5343
03:17:13,080 --> 03:17:15,960
the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from

5344
03:17:15,960 --> 03:17:17,940
Northern Silicon Valley where I remain.

5345
03:17:18,200 --> 03:17:18,860
I'm John C.

5346
03:17:18,980 --> 03:17:19,320
Dvorak.

5347
03:17:19,360 --> 03:17:21,160
We'll talk to you on Thursday That will

5348
03:17:21,160 --> 03:17:22,140
be April 3rd.

5349
03:17:22,140 --> 03:17:24,520
Please join us then and remember us at

5350
03:17:24,520 --> 03:17:27,560
no agenda donations calm until then

5351
03:17:46,260 --> 03:18:16,240
Express

5352
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I Hear your

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virtue signaling coming back and slap you in

5354
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the face like a wet salmon The wheels

5355
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on the omnibus go round and round round

5356
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and round round and round The wheels on

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the omnibus go round and round with all

5358
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the EU clown I would argue that the

5359
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new Jesus Christ of our era are Steve

5360
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Jobs and Elon Musk.

5361
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That's not true.

5362
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He's incompetent.

5363
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Elon Musk, aka real life Iron Man.

5364
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He's a Nazi.

5365
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He's a thief.

5366
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An immigrant to this country cemented his status.

5367
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He's a Nazi.

5368
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A Nazi.

5369
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Musk is doing things that may revolutionize transportation

5370
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and climate change.

5371
03:19:08,340 --> 03:19:09,140
That's not true.

5372
03:19:13,880 --> 03:19:19,260
When somebody as staggeringly rich and staggeringly intelligent

5373
03:19:19,260 --> 03:19:21,900
as Elon Musk talks, people listen.

5374
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He's incompetent.

5375
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He's a thief.

5376
03:19:25,440 --> 03:19:26,360
He's a Nazi.

5377
03:19:26,620 --> 03:19:27,020
A Nazi.

5378
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As a leader in science and technology whose

5379
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name may indeed belong alongside those of Edison

5380
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and Jobs, Elon Musk is incompetent in his

5381
03:19:39,300 --> 03:19:39,820
position.

5382
03:19:41,480 --> 03:19:44,840
Put another way, Elon Musk today showed the

5383
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world how it's done.

5384
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You played a video of a town hall

5385
03:19:56,780 --> 03:19:59,080
as though it's evidence of some broad anger

5386
03:19:59,080 --> 03:20:00,320
that's out there, and it's not.

5387
03:20:00,500 --> 03:20:03,080
We are mobilizing in New York.

5388
03:20:03,080 --> 03:20:05,740
We have people going to the Republican districts.

5389
03:20:06,000 --> 03:20:09,300
You just said you're organizing town halls in

5390
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red districts.

5391
03:20:10,200 --> 03:20:12,880
Going after these Republicans who are voting for

5392
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this.

5393
03:20:13,460 --> 03:20:14,820
You don't actually have to wait for them.

5394
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You can hold that town hall.

5395
03:20:16,680 --> 03:20:17,660
They organized it.

5396
03:20:17,700 --> 03:20:18,260
They get loud.

5397
03:20:18,340 --> 03:20:19,140
They get viral moments.

5398
03:20:19,240 --> 03:20:19,920
You schedule it.

5399
03:20:20,020 --> 03:20:20,720
You invite them.

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03:20:20,900 --> 03:20:21,900
If they come, that's great.

5401
03:20:22,060 --> 03:20:23,760
But if they don't come, have an empty

5402
03:20:23,760 --> 03:20:24,120
chair.

5403
03:20:25,700 --> 03:20:28,080
Hundreds of Hoosiers gathered today at the downtown

5404
03:20:28,080 --> 03:20:30,340
library for an empty chair town hall.

5405
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This is a long, relentless fight that we

5406
03:20:39,040 --> 03:20:40,180
fight every day.

5407
03:20:41,500 --> 03:20:44,060
And I am confident that we will bring

5408
03:20:44,060 --> 03:20:47,480
Trump's popularity, numbers and strength down.

5409
03:20:49,460 --> 03:20:51,300
What we're seeing when we do this is

5410
03:20:51,300 --> 03:20:52,400
that these are sold out.

5411
03:20:52,520 --> 03:20:53,560
People want to come.

5412
03:20:53,700 --> 03:20:55,500
People want to be involved in the process

5413
03:20:55,500 --> 03:20:56,060
right now.

5414
03:21:06,220 --> 03:21:08,980
Our party is not that organized.

5415
03:21:09,000 --> 03:21:10,920
You can try to organize town halls.

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03:21:20,860 --> 03:21:26,610
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5417
03:21:27,330 --> 03:21:28,630
Adios, mofo.

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03:21:28,750 --> 03:21:32,070
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