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I call bogus.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, March 27th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Keyone Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1750.

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This is no agenda.

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Fat-fingered and broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas Hill Country, right here in

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FEMA Region Number Six.

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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody has

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to resign, I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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Oh, man.

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Oh, man.

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It's days like this when the job is

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just tough.

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Because there's just nothing else in the world

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is happening.

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There's nothing happening.

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It's all signal gate.

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I know you feel the same, because you're

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like, oh, well, there goes the material.

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Well, I found some stuff outside of signal

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gate.

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Oh, me too.

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Because the car tariffs, that's the other big

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news.

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Oh, no, but that's not news.

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We don't want to talk about that.

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And then this morning, the MS-13 guy,

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some guy, some 25-year-old guy was

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arrested.

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Well, I'm glad you mentioned it.

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Here we go.

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Here's Pam Bondage.

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Good morning.

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Thank you for being here.

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You're welcome.

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Did you see Kash Patel in this?

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He had his- They're all there.

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But did you see what he had on

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his, his like FBI flight jacket?

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Yeah, I thought that was camo.

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No, it wasn't camo.

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No, that's his like outdoor arresting people jacket.

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He got the hat on.

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He's got his sneakers on.

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Yeah, Kash, Kash.

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We have been out since about 4.30

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this morning.

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Hold on, let's stop for a second.

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Yeah, really.

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Why is she even there?

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Well, they all report to her.

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Well, she was at, she's there.

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Kash, they're all there.

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It's like- Well, they were all out

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at 4 a.m. this morning, and then

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they had donuts.

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And I'm like, come on, let's go announce

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this thing.

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All right.

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Yeah, everyone dressed right.

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It just seemed to be showboating, if you

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ask me.

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You think?

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Whatever.

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This was a, please pay no attention to

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Signal Gate.

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We got an MS-13 guy.

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Oh yeah, totally.

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The great men and women of law enforcement

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have been working on this operation for days

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and days and probably weeks.

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You don't know?

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You don't know?

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Probably weeks?

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Do they report to you?

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I thought that was- You'd think she'd

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have an exact date when they started.

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Yeah, we started this on this date, and

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we got, I guess not.

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This morning, early this morning, one of the

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top leaders- Top, I love this.

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The top leaders, the tippy top, all the

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way at the top of the pyramid, top

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leader.

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Leaders of MS-13 was apprehended.

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He was the leader for the East Coast,

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one of the top three in the entire

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country.

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Right here in Virginia, living half an hour

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outside of Washington, D.C. He is an

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illegal alien from El Salvador, and he will

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not be living in our country much longer.

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He's in custody this morning.

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One of the top leaders, right here, near

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our nation's capital.

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Right there!

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Top, he was right there, one of the

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top guys.

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Hey, listen, the biggest criminals live in Washington,

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okay, they don't live in Virginia.

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But good job, good job, everybody.

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Just let me do the, I have a

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couple Signal Gate things, just to- Do

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you have the super clip?

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I have a super clip, yeah.

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I don't know which one you're talking about.

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That's the one with all the Democrats going,

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this is the worst thing that's ever happened

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to the country since 9-11.

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No, I don't have that one.

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Oh.

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Well, I didn't, because I was looking for

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super, super cuts, not super clip.

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Super cuts and haircut.

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No, I actually got a, I thought it

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would be fun to do a different version

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of super cut, which, yeah, we're doing something

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different.

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It's upside down day here on the No

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Agenda Show, people.

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The Lib Joes are in the house!

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They've made a big deal out of this,

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because we've had two perfect months.

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The main thing was nothing happened, the attack

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was totally successful.

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In my administration, I'm going to enforce all

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laws concerning the protection of classified information.

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I always say, you have to learn from

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every experience.

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Hillary's private email scandal, which put our classified

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information in the reach of our enemies, disqualifies

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her from the presidency.

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This journalist, Mr. President, wants the world talking

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about more hoaxes and this kind of nonsense,

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rather than the freedom that you're enabling.

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The president's national security advisor sent top secret

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emails on an unsecured server that we know

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our enemies were trying to access.

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He was sending back and forth freewheeling, and

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yet we see nothing there.

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My communications, to be clear, in a signal

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message group, were entirely permissible and lawful, and

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did not include classified information.

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This was a huge mistake, correct?

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No.

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Mishandling classified information is still a violation of

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the Espionage Act.

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It started with Hillary Clinton, it has continued

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without accountability.

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Nobody was texting war plans, and that's all

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I have to say about that.

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If it was anyone other than Hillary Clinton,

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they would be in jail right now.

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When you take something out of a skiff,

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if you're a senator, you know exactly what

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you're doing.

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So I found that super cut, I thought

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that was rather entertaining.

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But more fun was a trend we have

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noticed recently amongst Democrats, affectionately called the delusional

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Dems, and it's the cussing.

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And so here they have an opportunity.

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The cussing, yeah.

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They have an opportunity to have the upper

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hand on everything.

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I mean, it's just from, because if, I

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mean, politics, truth doesn't matter, it's just whatever

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is on X and whatever is being replayed

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by the media, but they cannot help themselves.

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Here's Adam Schiff.

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So tonight I want to talk about Signalgate

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and what a colossal fuck up this is

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in terms of our national security.

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Why?

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He doesn't need to, he does a six

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minute video, but that's how he starts it

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off.

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That's not good.

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And then- Even Van Jones, I don't

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know if you have the clip of that.

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Yeah, I have that, I have that.

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First let's- He notices it too.

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First let's, you're jumping the gun.

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I always do that.

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You're jumping the gun in the sequence.

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You want to go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that

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means quiet.

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Mayor Pete, lovable, adorable little Mayor Pete throws

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a couple bombs.

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With his breastfeeding thing on him.

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It does not.

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Hey, it's Pete.

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I'd try not to jump in with a

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take on- By the way, we should

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start our show.

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Hey, it's Pete.

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I mean, what does he think he is,

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Madonna?

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Hey, it's Pete.

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Hey, it's Pete.

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I'd try not to jump in with a

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take on everything or comment on everything we

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see in the news of the day, but

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what we learned about today is truly incredible.

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The U.S. Secretary of Defense, the National

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Security Advisor, the Vice President of the United

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States and other very senior, very powerful Trump

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White House officials, it turns out, discussed highly

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classified war plans, not only on an unclassified

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channel, but accidentally and randomly, it seems, including

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a journalist.

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And to see this administration claiming that it

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cares about competence and merit and then be

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responsible for an epic fuck-up like this

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demonstrates that these are not serious people.

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Not done yet.

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This kind of intelligence failure calls the question

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on whether there is any place for merit

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or competence in this administration at all.

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Because if there are not highly serious consequences

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for this level of screw-up, then it

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will make clear that all of the bluster

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about merit that you hear about from this

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White House is just bullshit.

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We deserve so much better than this.

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It is getting clearer by the day-

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That the people in charge of the American

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government cannot keep the American people safe.

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All right, here's the Van Jones remark.

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I think that this party is scrambling, trying

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to seem tough.

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And I'm seeing this party traffic in a

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lot of curse words.

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That's supposed to be the new cool thing

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to do.

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I don't think that that's going to be

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as useful.

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I even heard Pete Buttigieg with a whole

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bunch of curse words.

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I don't know who gave that memo.

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I don't think that's very useful.

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Ah, so it was a memo.

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Clearly there was a memo that went out.

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Van is questioning who gave out the memo.

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Is that another Chuck Schumer thing, do you

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think?

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Yeah, let's all talk tough.

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I think this is organic.

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I think it stems from the powers of

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the president.

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I've said this before, that the president sets

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the moral tone of the country, and it's

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always been the case.

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It's sort of the first thing they teach

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in college poli-sci classes.

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And so they've given, the president gave the

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go-ahead, because he says bullshit all the

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time.

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Yeah, but not the F word.

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I haven't heard him F-bomb.

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I think he has, but I don't think

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it's, it doesn't, the way they, the main

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people that do this, of course, are the

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main screaming meemees that are on the-

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Screaming meemees?

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Screaming meemees.

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What kind of backhanded slap is that?

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It's your own spouse?

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Well, it's what they're called, the screaming meemees.

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I've never heard of, it's a great band

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name, but I've never heard of the screaming

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meemees.

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Screaming meemees are the people that are on

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the TikTok, and they're screaming and yelling and

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cussing.

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And they're the ones who really set the

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stage for this, it seems to me.

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And now that the fact that the politicians

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are starting to cuss, this is really, and

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they're the ones who bitched and moaned about

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coarseness, oh, coarse, oh, Trump is bad, because

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it's so coarse.

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If you're going to do that, if you're

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going to set up yourself by complaining about

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coarseness, and then you start cussing, this is

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not, again, this is not a good look.

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I do have a couple of insightful clips

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about this, because we're not going to do

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what everybody else is doing.

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You know, I heard, I was listening to

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DH Unplugged every Tuesday, they do it live

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at eight o'clock.

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We do.

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It's also a podcast.

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Yes, it is John C.

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Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz.

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And Horowitz is saying, why does the news

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always do five stories?

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They do five stories all day long, five

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stories.

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And then you backed him up by saying,

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that's what Fox does, every single Fox show,

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five stories, five stories.

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And the reason for that is you play

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the hits, man.

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When you're in a linear time format, people

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aren't watching all day.

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You want them to tune in and get

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the top five stories.

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That's what that's about.

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Play the hits.

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You can't go wrong by playing Madonna.

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Yeah.

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That's probably the only, that's what I remember

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when I was at Tech TV, and we

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had an old pro that was running, one

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of the guys that was one of the

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main producers of the whole operation, he said,

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and you get a story that's hot, you

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just milk it.

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Yeah.

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It's all you do all day is just

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go on this story.

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That's all you play.

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Yack, yack, yack about the one thing.

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I mean, we shy away from that on

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this show because it's, I think people are

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sick of it.

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Yeah, who needs that?

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In this, I mean, people always want to

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hear our opinions.

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Oh yeah, but we have opinions.

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Okay, I'm just going to- Well, we

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have different, we also have perspective.

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We have a different look at these things.

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We are awesome.

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That's what we're trying to do.

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We're great.

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We're trying to, here's a backgrounder.

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It was the screenshot the world was waiting

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for after members of the now infamous Hootie

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PC small group lined up on Tuesday to

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insist no classified information was shared on the

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signal chat.

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The Atlantic magazine dropped the so-called war

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plan Pete Hegseth sent to senior intelligence officials

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and a journalist from the Atlantic that readers

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might judge for themselves.

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12.15 estimated time F-18s launch first

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strike package.

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Package.

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13.45 trigger-based F-18 first strike

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window starts.

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Target terrorist is at his known location.

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So should be on time.

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Also strike drones launch MQ-9s.

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After the initial strike, the target is identified

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on signal as the Hootie's quote, top missile

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guy.

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Members of the signal thread are now saying

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the Atlantic magazine's editor, Jeffrey Goldberg oversold the

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extent of the breach.

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Among them, the Pentagon chief himself.

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Nobody's texting war plans.

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There's no units, no locations, no routes, no

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flight paths, no sources, no methods, no classified

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information.

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This after Goldberg's original article said the plan

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included precise information about targets.

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But in the hands of foreign intelligence, the

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messages sent two hours before zero hour would

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have been an ample tip off to Hootie

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command of an impending attack.

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You're right about the president setting the tone

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because not a single person can just say,

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yeah, that was dumb.

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They don't seem capable of that.

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They're like, yeah, well, we were in a

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hurry.

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We're doing this, you know, it's an approved

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thing.

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We just threw together a group and that

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was bad.

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This is the era of no apologies.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Sorry about that, Vax.

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No one is going to apologize for everything.

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And President Trump, he's so smart.

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The Vax is still on the market.

401
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Of course, of course.

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I mean, get your eighth booster.

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Get your eighth booster.

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I did, there was an interesting, cause you

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know, this journalist is interesting for a number

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of reasons.

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And then we can talk about what we

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think happens briefly.

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Matt Taibbi was on Newsmax, Newsmax top, he's

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a top, top guy on Newsmax as a

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guest.

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And here's what he had to say about

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the Atlantic journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg.

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What exactly is Jeffrey Goldberg in your mind?

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What do you think of this guy?

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Look, a lot of journalists, when Jeffrey Goldberg's

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name comes up, we all kind of look

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at each other with a bemused glance.

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This is somebody who has a reputation for

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getting things massively wrong and somehow being promoted

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anyway.

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He was infamous for getting the WMD story

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wrong multiple times.

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In fact, he won multiple awards for getting

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that story wrong.

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And somehow still ended up the editor of

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Atlantic Magazine.

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So he's a figure of some mystery in

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the business.

430
00:14:41,170 --> 00:14:44,090
Yeah, that was the great terror article in

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the New Yorker in 2002.

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Yeah, he's the one who promoted the suckers

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and losers story.

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Yep.

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John Kelly commentary.

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He also did two or three other of

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these, he's a spook.

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There's gotta be something like that.

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I mean, I don't have, I am not

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looking at his Wiki page so I can

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do a spot to spook analysis, but there's

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something fishy about, first of all, why is

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he the guy that ended up on this

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thing?

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The second thing was is that the Walls,

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the National Security Advisor says when he went

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to CIA, I guess the first thing they

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gave him was a secure phone.

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It had a signal on it.

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And then he talked to some CIA guys,

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but he talked about this in the testimony.

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And they had a communication, somebody there says,

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oh, no, don't worry about it, everyone's got

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this, just use it, it's fine.

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And then all of a sudden, just Jeffrey

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Goldberg guy gets on the call, how did

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that happen?

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And of course, nobody can figure out how

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that happened.

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And maybe they will, maybe they won't.

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This whole thing is a setup.

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Goldberg dropped out of college and worked for

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a time at the Washington Post, because that's

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where all college dropouts go.

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Did you drop out of college?

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You're hired, son, come on in.

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What, he got hired by Woodward?

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He then moved to Israel and served in

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the Israeli Defense Forces during the first Intifada.

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He was a prison guard.

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There he, let me see.

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You're on his Wiki page?

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Yeah, I am, I am.

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He said, oh, I can't be trusted, dual

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Israeli citizen.

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It's one of those guys, can't trust him.

477
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Well, the- Is there any other spot

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that spooked the indicators?

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I don't really see anything.

480
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Well, that's actually good.

481
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I mean, it may actually be a real

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- A real one.

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A real one.

484
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A real one, yes, yes.

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As opposed to one that's just kind of

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sloppy.

487
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Well- Because the fact that he's the

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guy of all the people that ended up

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on this call, why him?

490
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Well, you know, sometimes, just Occam's razor, sometimes

491
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things just happen.

492
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Yeah, but this sort of thing is anything

493
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but Occam's razor.

494
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It's like the opposite.

495
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Well- It's so out there.

496
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No, not really.

497
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I mean, if you're adding, because the whole

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Signal texts thread was about adding people to

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the mix.

500
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Yeah, but you have to have, first you

501
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have to have the number in your book.

502
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Oh, yeah, well, I mean, you have lots

503
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of people's numbers in your book you wouldn't

504
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add to a text chat with me.

505
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I'm sorry, you have an actual book.

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What am I thinking?

507
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You don't have it in your phone.

508
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Actually, I do have the Google, I do

509
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have a large address book on Google, and

510
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they will move it to my phone every

511
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time I get a new Android.

512
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You've gotten a new one?

513
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Well, it's not new, but every time you

514
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get a different phone, I have different phones

515
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over time that end up in the same

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drawer, but when you boot it, they demand

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that you log in somehow.

518
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You got to log your old account in,

519
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and once you do that, then they throw

520
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a bunch of crap on your phone, but

521
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they're throwing stuff on, I have phone numbers

522
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for people that I don't even know, and

523
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so it's possible, but again, somehow that number

524
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got on that phone, Walz's phone, somehow.

525
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No, I'm pretty sure they know each other.

526
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They know each other.

527
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Walz claims that he doesn't know him.

528
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Ah, I don't buy that.

529
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I'm not buying that.

530
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I like what Sir Grantilius of the Great

531
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Plains said.

532
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Walz was working for the Department of Defense

533
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as an advisor to Cheney in the Bush

534
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days.

535
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Goldberg was publishing work actively supporting the invasion

536
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of Iraq.

537
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That's your WMD.

538
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The Cheney gang despises Trump.

539
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Could Goldberg have been invited on purpose?

540
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That's what he says.

541
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That's reasonable.

542
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That is, that's reasonable.

543
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You know, but- There's a lot of

544
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reasonable things that you can surmise.

545
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But who is this, but who is this,

546
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I think this is, if it's targeted, it's

547
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targeted against Hegseth.

548
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Who has the capability, first of all, Signal

549
00:19:09,070 --> 00:19:11,530
- Well, they really hate Hegseth.

550
00:19:11,670 --> 00:19:14,510
Yes, and Hegseth has responded very poorly.

551
00:19:14,650 --> 00:19:15,950
He's not good at this.

552
00:19:16,570 --> 00:19:18,490
No, you'd think he'd be better because he's

553
00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:19,270
media savvy.

554
00:19:19,390 --> 00:19:22,190
He's so defensive and blah, blah.

555
00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:23,990
Nope, nope, this is not, this is bull

556
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:24,230
crap.

557
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:26,670
That guy's no good.

558
00:19:26,830 --> 00:19:28,890
No, Hegseth plays too much of a tough

559
00:19:28,890 --> 00:19:29,410
character.

560
00:19:30,130 --> 00:19:30,250
Yeah.

561
00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:31,590
He's a tough guy.

562
00:19:32,110 --> 00:19:34,870
They push him into this position where he's

563
00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:37,330
gotta be kind of assertive.

564
00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:38,230
Yeah.

565
00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:40,250
And he doesn't have experience in a large

566
00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:42,870
bureaucracy, so he's a little sensitive about that.

567
00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:43,150
Yeah.

568
00:19:43,610 --> 00:19:46,790
And so he's in a position where he

569
00:19:46,790 --> 00:19:47,710
can get shook.

570
00:19:49,030 --> 00:19:51,390
And so far, you know, I think Trump

571
00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:51,970
likes him.

572
00:19:52,030 --> 00:19:53,670
I think he probably could do the job

573
00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:55,610
but they're gonna try to shake him out

574
00:19:55,610 --> 00:19:55,790
of there.

575
00:19:55,950 --> 00:19:57,190
I think he has to go.

576
00:19:57,690 --> 00:19:59,670
Out of all this, they're not gonna stop.

577
00:20:00,630 --> 00:20:03,550
And if this was a targeted thing, then

578
00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:05,530
it was to get to make Hegseth look

579
00:20:05,530 --> 00:20:05,770
bad.

580
00:20:05,810 --> 00:20:07,450
Because it was Hegseth who's sitting there going

581
00:20:07,450 --> 00:20:10,090
like, we got the reaper drones, we're gonna

582
00:20:10,090 --> 00:20:10,930
kill this guy.

583
00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:14,330
And the thing that's kind of sick about

584
00:20:14,330 --> 00:20:17,710
it all is the jubilee.

585
00:20:18,570 --> 00:20:22,170
And like, yay, American flag emoji, punching fist

586
00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:23,850
emoji, fire emoji.

587
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:24,790
We killed him.

588
00:20:25,050 --> 00:20:26,270
Yeah, that was a mistake.

589
00:20:26,270 --> 00:20:29,530
Of course, but that's how these people are.

590
00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:31,230
That's probably how most people are.

591
00:20:33,230 --> 00:20:34,210
But it's always- Yeah, we're number one

592
00:20:34,210 --> 00:20:34,890
foam finger.

593
00:20:34,930 --> 00:20:36,530
Yeah, it's always a little jar.

594
00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:38,330
I mean, to me, that was the jarring

595
00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:38,730
thing.

596
00:20:38,850 --> 00:20:40,810
I mean, not that this was.

597
00:20:40,890 --> 00:20:46,450
And clearly, the timing of this and how

598
00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:49,390
much time there was before the reaper drones

599
00:20:49,390 --> 00:20:52,010
and whatever else they were planning, clearly, that

600
00:20:52,010 --> 00:20:53,770
would have been enough to alert people.

601
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:55,170
Here's my question, though.

602
00:20:56,410 --> 00:20:57,270
This is the thing.

603
00:20:57,330 --> 00:20:58,250
This is the part I don't understand.

604
00:20:58,350 --> 00:20:59,710
And this is where it smells of a

605
00:20:59,710 --> 00:20:59,990
setup.

606
00:21:01,070 --> 00:21:04,050
If this is you or I, and we

607
00:21:04,050 --> 00:21:06,890
get added to some awesome text group, and

608
00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:09,330
on this text group, it's podcasters.

609
00:21:09,670 --> 00:21:10,810
It's Megyn Kelly.

610
00:21:11,230 --> 00:21:12,370
It's Dan Bongino.

611
00:21:12,530 --> 00:21:13,650
Oh, no, he's no longer a podcaster.

612
00:21:14,150 --> 00:21:15,370
It's Tucker Carlson.

613
00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:17,910
And they have like this top, top, top

614
00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:19,010
podcasters group.

615
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:21,650
I would not be removing myself.

616
00:21:24,010 --> 00:21:25,170
Who does- This was brought up on

617
00:21:25,170 --> 00:21:27,510
Gutfeld by one of the contestants.

618
00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:30,430
Who does that?

619
00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:33,010
I forgot who was, but one of them

620
00:21:33,010 --> 00:21:36,150
said, why would you out yourself if you're

621
00:21:36,150 --> 00:21:37,390
going to end up on these groups?

622
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:39,590
Because you could, as a journalist in particular,

623
00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:42,030
because you're like the fly on, now you're

624
00:21:42,030 --> 00:21:43,090
a fly on the wall.

625
00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:43,730
Yes.

626
00:21:43,930 --> 00:21:45,510
Why wouldn't you want to continue to be

627
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:46,890
the fly on the wall as long as

628
00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:48,830
you can, and you just build up and

629
00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:50,110
build up more?

630
00:21:50,530 --> 00:21:52,310
Do you remember back?

631
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:53,390
Well, you still have one.

632
00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:56,090
Back in the landline days, if you called

633
00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:58,250
someone on a landline, you know, the thing

634
00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:03,170
that's on the wall, and the other person

635
00:22:03,170 --> 00:22:05,370
didn't, no, how did it work?

636
00:22:05,450 --> 00:22:07,710
It was like, there was a thing where

637
00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:08,810
you could keep listening.

638
00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:10,570
I mean, if the other person doesn't hang

639
00:22:10,570 --> 00:22:12,510
up, and there was something where this happens

640
00:22:12,510 --> 00:22:12,970
regularly.

641
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:16,650
There was some situations where, well, first of

642
00:22:16,650 --> 00:22:18,130
all, when I was in France for the

643
00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:20,170
first time in 73.

644
00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:21,810
Getting your hair cut by Pierre.

645
00:22:22,290 --> 00:22:22,670
Yes.

646
00:22:24,290 --> 00:22:25,550
That's when you had to always go to

647
00:22:25,550 --> 00:22:28,670
the postal office to make calls.

648
00:22:28,790 --> 00:22:30,330
It was very strange to do an overseas

649
00:22:30,330 --> 00:22:30,670
call.

650
00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:32,070
You had to go to the post office,

651
00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:36,270
and it was a postal telephone post office.

652
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:37,630
Yes, PTT.

653
00:22:38,150 --> 00:22:40,310
But the phones, if people did have a

654
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:44,850
phone in their house, when you hung up,

655
00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:46,110
it didn't hang up anything.

656
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:49,690
So you could stay on the line, and

657
00:22:49,690 --> 00:22:51,090
when the other person hung up, you hear

658
00:22:51,090 --> 00:22:53,370
the click, but the phone was still live

659
00:22:53,370 --> 00:22:54,730
for a good five minutes.

660
00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:55,710
This is what I'm talking about.

661
00:22:55,790 --> 00:22:56,670
I remember this.

662
00:22:57,130 --> 00:22:59,150
There was something like that that went on

663
00:22:59,150 --> 00:23:00,710
in this country too, but it wasn't quite

664
00:23:00,710 --> 00:23:01,790
the same mechanism.

665
00:23:02,010 --> 00:23:02,610
It was something else.

666
00:23:02,610 --> 00:23:03,970
No, I think I remember it from the

667
00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:04,070
Netherlands.

668
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:06,530
I remember it too, because I remember people

669
00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:08,030
hanging up, and then now you can still

670
00:23:08,030 --> 00:23:08,430
hear it.

671
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:11,630
Yeah, yeah, and what you did was, you

672
00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:12,910
didn't hang up and say, oh, I hope

673
00:23:12,910 --> 00:23:14,270
I don't hear anything I shouldn't be hearing.

674
00:23:14,370 --> 00:23:14,730
No!

675
00:23:15,470 --> 00:23:16,030
You're listening.

676
00:23:16,490 --> 00:23:18,010
Well, that's like being on the party line.

677
00:23:18,150 --> 00:23:19,330
Yeah, yes.

678
00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:22,630
Which when I was a real little kid,

679
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:24,070
and I was on the party line all

680
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:25,290
the time, and I've talked about this on

681
00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:27,190
the show before, and I got caught a

682
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:30,330
couple of times by the girl, she'd be

683
00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:33,190
talking to her boyfriend, I'm listening in, and

684
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:35,710
these two cooing over each other, and she

685
00:23:35,710 --> 00:23:36,670
caught me somehow.

686
00:23:36,850 --> 00:23:37,110
I don't know if she heard something.

687
00:23:37,910 --> 00:23:39,290
Here's a modern day example.

688
00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:40,670
Let's move it out of Boomerland.

689
00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:42,370
Butt dial.

690
00:23:42,610 --> 00:23:44,810
When someone butt dials you, and you hear

691
00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:44,950
them.

692
00:23:45,330 --> 00:23:46,030
Same thing.

693
00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:48,030
You don't hang up and go, oh, butt

694
00:23:48,030 --> 00:23:48,650
dial, no!

695
00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:50,330
Let me hear what they say.

696
00:23:52,670 --> 00:23:55,370
You listen, unless you can, you listen for

697
00:23:55,370 --> 00:23:57,450
at least a little while, but if it's,

698
00:23:57,610 --> 00:23:59,690
you know, obviously you're not gonna hear anything,

699
00:23:59,770 --> 00:24:01,890
because you can tell by the nature of

700
00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:04,110
the butt dial, because you can't hear, you

701
00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:06,830
just hear rustling, and then you hang up.

702
00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:09,510
But otherwise, yeah, you listen a little bit,

703
00:24:09,570 --> 00:24:10,590
if you can hear anything.

704
00:24:10,590 --> 00:24:12,590
But if you don't hear anything, you don't

705
00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:12,890
listen.

706
00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:15,770
So it doesn't make sense that this guy

707
00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:16,390
outed himself like this.

708
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:17,530
Would remove himself.

709
00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:20,670
And he's got, and his story was a

710
00:24:20,670 --> 00:24:21,410
nothing burger.

711
00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:22,830
Is that how you use that term?

712
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:23,910
You use nothing burger.

713
00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:24,510
You heard it.

714
00:24:24,910 --> 00:24:27,890
And it basically, there wasn't really anything, he

715
00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:29,910
just was there to humiliate Hanks, Seth.

716
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:32,830
So, and Walls, to a lesser extent.

717
00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:35,610
Well, Walls is under attack.

718
00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:41,490
So people are now combing through Walts, and

719
00:24:41,490 --> 00:24:45,170
they find out that his official ex account,

720
00:24:45,690 --> 00:24:52,490
he's following a gay porn star, known as

721
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:53,570
Big Dick Bottom.

722
00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:56,070
A black guy.

723
00:24:56,250 --> 00:24:56,850
A black guy.

724
00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:57,810
Really?

725
00:24:58,110 --> 00:24:58,410
Yeah.

726
00:24:59,050 --> 00:25:00,170
I didn't catch that.

727
00:25:00,350 --> 00:25:01,830
And then he unfollowed him quick.

728
00:25:02,130 --> 00:25:03,610
Yeah, I would imagine.

729
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:05,590
Sorry, not porn star, an adult con artist.

730
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:06,410
Content creator.

731
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:06,990
I'm sorry.

732
00:25:07,170 --> 00:25:08,170
I'm using the wrong term.

733
00:25:08,170 --> 00:25:09,410
I will say this, so that could be,

734
00:25:09,490 --> 00:25:11,170
that could be planted.

735
00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:12,090
Oh yeah, easy.

736
00:25:12,190 --> 00:25:13,790
Hey, let me see your phone for a

737
00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:13,930
sec.

738
00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:16,070
You know, who do I know that does

739
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:16,310
that?

740
00:25:16,370 --> 00:25:17,170
Who did things?

741
00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:18,390
Yes, John C.

742
00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:18,790
Dvorak.

743
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:20,150
Give me your phone for a second.

744
00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:21,650
And then you boop, boop, boop, boop, boop,

745
00:25:21,730 --> 00:25:22,670
switch it to Korean.

746
00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:25,670
And it would be impossible to find your

747
00:25:25,670 --> 00:25:28,630
way back to turn off the Korean language.

748
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:30,030
Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of

749
00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:31,930
research to figure out how to do it.

750
00:25:32,050 --> 00:25:33,490
That was one of your most.

751
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:33,650
I know, that's a great gag.

752
00:25:33,770 --> 00:25:34,390
Come on, people.

753
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:35,450
It's a horrible gag.

754
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:36,530
It's just, it's horrible.

755
00:25:39,230 --> 00:25:42,730
So, yeah, my feeling is this is the

756
00:25:42,730 --> 00:25:46,130
first major chink in the Hegseth armor.

757
00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:48,310
And that was the intent.

758
00:25:48,430 --> 00:25:52,350
Also, it was from the account from Goldberg,

759
00:25:52,590 --> 00:25:56,050
it was Waltz who added him to.

760
00:25:56,370 --> 00:25:56,910
Three says.

761
00:25:57,690 --> 00:25:59,910
Now that can, I don't, Signal doesn't send

762
00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:02,570
out invitations as far as I know.

763
00:26:02,570 --> 00:26:05,670
I was surprised, just as an aside, that

764
00:26:05,670 --> 00:26:08,210
Signal is an approved encrypted messaging app for

765
00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:09,130
the U.S. government.

766
00:26:10,150 --> 00:26:13,270
Do you know that the chairman of the

767
00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:15,670
Signal board is a foundation that runs.

768
00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:16,450
The woman.

769
00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:19,050
The woman, she is the head of NPR.

770
00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:23,530
No, she's gone, but didn't the woman from

771
00:26:23,530 --> 00:26:24,810
Blue Cry also come from Signal?

772
00:26:24,810 --> 00:26:26,390
No, the woman from NPR still runs it,

773
00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:27,970
because here, here's the clip.

774
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:30,690
They talk about it at, I think I

775
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:31,390
have one of the signals.

776
00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:33,610
I have a couple of her clips, but.

777
00:26:33,790 --> 00:26:35,330
No, I have the disclaimer.

778
00:26:35,950 --> 00:26:36,750
Oh, okay.

779
00:26:39,950 --> 00:26:40,390
Wow.

780
00:26:40,670 --> 00:26:41,970
Yeah, wow is right.

781
00:26:42,990 --> 00:26:44,190
You sure you have it?

782
00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:45,850
I know, I know I have it, I

783
00:26:45,850 --> 00:26:48,490
just, I just don't know what it's called.

784
00:26:49,410 --> 00:26:51,150
Breach Story Weird NPR?

785
00:26:51,390 --> 00:26:52,210
Should we try that one?

786
00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:55,480
What is it?

787
00:26:55,660 --> 00:26:58,140
Breach Story Weird NPR.

788
00:26:58,460 --> 00:26:59,420
Oh yeah, that could be it.

789
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,420
The fallout continues from the revelation senior Trump

790
00:27:02,420 --> 00:27:05,460
administration officials somehow added a journalist to a

791
00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:07,900
Signal group chat in which they discussed secret

792
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,800
plans for military strikes in Yemen.

793
00:27:10,340 --> 00:27:12,440
At a White House hearing today, Democrats disputed

794
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,540
the administration's claims.

795
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,140
The information wasn't classified and called for people

796
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:17,300
to be held accountable.

797
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,760
Here's NPR's Ryan Lucas.

798
00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:21,360
Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee pushed Director

799
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,600
of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director

800
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,600
John Ratcliffe for answers, particularly after the full

801
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,840
group chat chain was made public by the

802
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,220
Atlantic.

803
00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:33,760
It showed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth texting details

804
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,160
on timing, weapons and attack sequencing of the

805
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,220
US airstrikes in Yemen.

806
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,640
Here's Colorado Democrat Jason Crowe.

807
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,420
Nobody is willing to come to us and

808
00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:43,480
say this was wrong.

809
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:45,520
This was a breach of security and we

810
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,360
won't do it again.

811
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,940
Crowe, who is a former US Army Ranger,

812
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,340
said the refusal to accept responsibility is outrageous

813
00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:53,560
and a leadership failure.

814
00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:55,980
And he called on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth

815
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:56,580
to resign.

816
00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:58,900
Ryan Lucas, NPR News, Washington.

817
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,360
NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of

818
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,900
the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the

819
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:04,220
app.

820
00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:09,300
That's not the lady who was in Congress,

821
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,600
though.

822
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:10,500
Yeah.

823
00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:13,320
No, her name is, I don't think that's

824
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,660
her name.

825
00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:15,280
No, there were two ladies in Congress.

826
00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:15,940
Hold on a second.

827
00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:17,400
It's NPR News, Washington.

828
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840
NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of

829
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,340
the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the

830
00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:22,640
app.

831
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,120
The other lady, Catherine...

832
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,780
Catherine, that's her, March, or March and March.

833
00:28:28,780 --> 00:28:31,920
There are two ladies from NPR called Catherine

834
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Marr.

835
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Marr.

836
00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:33,880
Did he say Marr?

837
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,800
Let me listen again.

838
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:36,700
Did he say Marr?

839
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:37,240
Washington.

840
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,740
NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of

841
00:28:39,740 --> 00:28:40,300
the Signal Foundation.

842
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Oh, Marr.

843
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,200
Okay, oh, interesting.

844
00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:44,340
Well, what is she doing that for?

845
00:28:44,460 --> 00:28:46,080
Well, that makes it all very suspicious.

846
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,220
I thought it was very suspicious first time

847
00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:49,680
I heard that.

848
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,380
And that's one of the few times that

849
00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:53,060
they actually ran the disclaimer.

850
00:28:53,060 --> 00:28:54,520
You're gonna grill me in Congress?

851
00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:55,560
Watch this.

852
00:28:57,780 --> 00:28:59,500
Can I play a couple of those clips?

853
00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:00,720
I thought those were kind of interesting.

854
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,200
I would like you to play them.

855
00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:03,420
I didn't get any of those clips.

856
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:04,380
I love those clips.

857
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,360
The thing is, they don't have...

858
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,620
It was funny to listen to, I will

859
00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:09,220
say this.

860
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,060
You listen, I was almost gonna take this,

861
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,520
but then I was thinking, well, I've won

862
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,820
too many Jesse Waters analysis.

863
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:16,960
It's not good for the show.

864
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,900
Oh, do you have more today?

865
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,740
This is bad.

866
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,200
I have none.

867
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,840
Oh, good.

868
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,400
But Jesse Waters has some of the best

869
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:23,980
of the clips.

870
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,540
And then when you played him up close,

871
00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:29,880
up against the long version, longer exposition on

872
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,800
PBS NewsHour, there was no comparison.

873
00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:35,060
The Water stuff was far superior.

874
00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:37,840
Well, I focused really on one thing and

875
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,100
that's the money because that's what it was

876
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:40,440
about.

877
00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:43,260
It's about do we continue to fund the

878
00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:44,440
National Public Radio?

879
00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:45,640
Where does the money go?

880
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,800
That's- And the kicker is, oh, well,

881
00:29:47,860 --> 00:29:50,080
the government doesn't really have, only gives maybe

882
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,580
1% of the total.

883
00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:52,160
No, no.

884
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,740
Doesn't mean a lot and oh, who cares?

885
00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:56,140
We need this money.

886
00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:57,280
Okay, I guess I don't need to play

887
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,680
the clips.

888
00:29:57,780 --> 00:29:58,600
You did it again.

889
00:30:01,730 --> 00:30:04,130
You went straight to the kicker.

890
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:07,030
But that's just what you set me up

891
00:30:07,030 --> 00:30:07,410
for it.

892
00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:08,930
You've got to do a better job of

893
00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:09,790
blocking me.

894
00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:11,850
I'm going to play Catherine Amar, be quiet.

895
00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:14,350
I understand the subcommittee has questions about funding

896
00:30:14,350 --> 00:30:15,810
for NPR and public radio.

897
00:30:16,090 --> 00:30:18,530
The vast majority of federal dollars, more than

898
00:30:18,530 --> 00:30:21,250
a hundred million of the 121 million annual

899
00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:26,290
appropriation for public radio goes directly to 386

900
00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:29,090
local non-commercial stations across the nation.

901
00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:32,610
This highly efficient investment enables your local stations

902
00:30:32,610 --> 00:30:34,850
to raise an average of $7 for every

903
00:30:34,850 --> 00:30:35,610
federal dollar.

904
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:39,110
As a grantee of the Corporation for Public

905
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:42,550
Broadcasting, NPR received federal funding of 11.2

906
00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:43,450
million last year.

907
00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:46,150
These funds allow us to maintain the National

908
00:30:46,150 --> 00:30:49,990
Public Radio satellite system, helping safeguard our national

909
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:52,890
security, civil defense and disaster response.

910
00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:55,490
And enabling public radio to reach every corner

911
00:30:55,490 --> 00:30:56,070
of America.

912
00:30:56,610 --> 00:30:59,270
Additionally, these funds help protect journalists covering our

913
00:30:59,270 --> 00:31:02,390
troops overseas and reverse the decline of local

914
00:31:02,390 --> 00:31:02,870
journalism.

915
00:31:03,170 --> 00:31:07,370
So people don't really understand how NPR works.

916
00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:09,150
They're all independent stations.

917
00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:10,970
They have to do their own fundraising.

918
00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:16,930
The problem is they basically can't create much

919
00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:18,230
of their own local content.

920
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:22,650
I mean, even KUT in Austin, remember when

921
00:31:22,650 --> 00:31:24,490
we had snow apocalypse, they were playing in

922
00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:25,610
fresh air with Terry Gross.

923
00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:28,670
They have to buy the programming.

924
00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:31,730
And that's where a lot of the money

925
00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:35,570
goes because it's commercial companies making the majority

926
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:36,470
of this content.

927
00:31:36,690 --> 00:31:40,050
It's not like, you know, like government employees.

928
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:42,570
All of this comes through the PRX, the

929
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:45,970
public radio exchanges, you know, the public, what

930
00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:46,170
is it?

931
00:31:46,210 --> 00:31:48,590
The public media, forget the name of the

932
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:48,790
group.

933
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:51,630
So really the only thing that makes it

934
00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:53,210
a network is explained here.

935
00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:54,810
I'd like to spend the rest of my

936
00:31:54,810 --> 00:31:55,970
time talking about funding.

937
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:59,310
This is Jack, Representative Jack from Georgia.

938
00:31:59,470 --> 00:32:00,870
I know that some of my colleagues talked

939
00:32:00,870 --> 00:32:02,550
about it a little bit today, but could

940
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:04,950
you walk us through the amount of money

941
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:07,310
that NPR receives from CPB annually?

942
00:32:07,630 --> 00:32:08,450
Yes, sure, sir.

943
00:32:08,770 --> 00:32:12,210
We receive $11.2 million this past year,

944
00:32:12,370 --> 00:32:14,250
the majority of which goes to the public

945
00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:16,790
radio satellite system, which we operate on behalf

946
00:32:16,790 --> 00:32:19,030
of the entire public radio network.

947
00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:22,330
We also received a smaller amount of funds.

948
00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:23,150
Let's just stop there.

949
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:27,850
The PRSS, the public radio satellite system is

950
00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:28,870
an anachronism.

951
00:32:29,530 --> 00:32:32,590
This thing should immediately be shot out of

952
00:32:32,590 --> 00:32:33,130
the sky.

953
00:32:34,570 --> 00:32:37,510
I think there's still one show that broadcasts

954
00:32:37,510 --> 00:32:40,510
live, the morning edition, maybe all things considered,

955
00:32:41,230 --> 00:32:44,330
is a live stream from the satellite, which,

956
00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:47,470
of course, we could do much cheaper with

957
00:32:47,470 --> 00:32:48,990
a Starlink dish.

958
00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:51,890
That would work in a case of an

959
00:32:51,890 --> 00:32:54,550
emergency, but you could still do it.

960
00:32:54,610 --> 00:32:57,270
I mean, we've had T1 lines for a

961
00:32:57,270 --> 00:32:57,890
long time.

962
00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:00,450
And what all these, it's a very expensive,

963
00:33:00,690 --> 00:33:04,810
very antiquated system where they, in essence, download

964
00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:08,130
WAV files of programming.

965
00:33:08,650 --> 00:33:12,490
That's the incredible importance of that $11 million.

966
00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:16,750
And of course, Catherine Marr's salary and whatever

967
00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:19,110
else they do with that.

968
00:33:19,810 --> 00:33:23,110
But that thing is absolutely not necessary, but

969
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:24,950
I don't think any of these people in

970
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:27,770
Congress actually understand what NPR is or how

971
00:33:27,770 --> 00:33:28,310
it works.

972
00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:30,610
We also received a smaller amount of funding

973
00:33:30,610 --> 00:33:32,230
in the course of the past year that

974
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:34,810
went to help us hire those additional editors

975
00:33:34,810 --> 00:33:36,870
and analysts in order to be able to

976
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:38,390
beef up that editorial review.

977
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:41,170
We received funding to support the coverage of

978
00:33:41,170 --> 00:33:43,370
the recent election in order to make sure

979
00:33:43,370 --> 00:33:45,510
that we had our journalists all across the

980
00:33:45,510 --> 00:33:47,690
country and were able to speak to Americans

981
00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:48,950
of all different political backgrounds.

982
00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:52,230
And what percentage of your budget share comes

983
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:53,070
from the federal government?

984
00:33:54,290 --> 00:33:57,010
Depending on how you count it, sir, it's

985
00:33:57,010 --> 00:33:59,430
less than 5%.

986
00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:02,890
And to help me understand, too, the CPB,

987
00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:06,370
as I understand it, Congress has appropriated $500

988
00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:07,449
million to the CPB.

989
00:34:07,570 --> 00:34:09,350
It flows out, and I think smaller radio

990
00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:11,370
stations go and apply for grants for it.

991
00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:17,730
$500 million for CPB, which includes PBS?

992
00:34:18,370 --> 00:34:19,350
What else does that include?

993
00:34:20,630 --> 00:34:22,449
It includes a lot of those little stations

994
00:34:22,449 --> 00:34:23,870
who have to give the money back.

995
00:34:24,370 --> 00:34:25,790
I mean, the whole thing is something of

996
00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:26,989
a Ponzi scheme.

997
00:34:27,469 --> 00:34:30,690
Do you receive payment from smaller radio stations

998
00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:32,750
through licensing agreements and things of that nature?

999
00:34:33,110 --> 00:34:35,070
We do, and the fees for that are

1000
00:34:35,070 --> 00:34:39,870
designed designed around the amount of- What

1001
00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:41,830
do you mean designed?

1002
00:34:42,050 --> 00:34:43,230
The fees are designed.

1003
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:48,370
And of course, Jack is only out to

1004
00:34:48,370 --> 00:34:49,889
get her, to stick it to her like

1005
00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:50,570
everybody else.

1006
00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:52,050
No follow-up questions on that.

1007
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:57,590
Are designed around the amount of funding that

1008
00:34:57,590 --> 00:34:59,430
they get from private member donations.

1009
00:34:59,610 --> 00:35:01,550
So it's not, the fees are not designed

1010
00:35:01,550 --> 00:35:04,370
around federal funding, they're just- How is

1011
00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:05,570
a fee designed?

1012
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:08,290
I mean, a fee is a fee.

1013
00:35:09,130 --> 00:35:12,190
So is it based upon how many people

1014
00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:12,630
listen?

1015
00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:14,250
Is it based on how much money you

1016
00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:14,490
raise?

1017
00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:15,890
This makes no sense.

1018
00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:18,730
They get money to keep the stations on

1019
00:35:18,730 --> 00:35:19,030
the air.

1020
00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:19,770
That's expensive.

1021
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:23,570
And then the fees are designed somehow?

1022
00:35:25,530 --> 00:35:25,990
Designed?

1023
00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:27,570
What she's trying to say is that the

1024
00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:29,550
larger markets have to pay more money.

1025
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:30,470
Yeah.

1026
00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:31,890
That's pretty common.

1027
00:35:32,370 --> 00:35:33,610
The amount of funding that they- It's

1028
00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:34,870
like newspaper syndicates.

1029
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:37,250
If you're a small town paper with 100

1030
00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:39,790
,000 CERC, you're not paying the same amount

1031
00:35:39,790 --> 00:35:42,170
for the Dilbert cartoon as somebody with 250

1032
00:35:42,170 --> 00:35:43,770
,000 CERC.

1033
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:46,790
Designed around the amount of funding that they

1034
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:48,510
get from private member donations.

1035
00:35:48,730 --> 00:35:50,630
So it's not, the fees are not designed

1036
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:51,690
around federal funding.

1037
00:35:51,830 --> 00:35:53,870
They're designed around what sort of direct private

1038
00:35:53,870 --> 00:35:56,570
support and donations they receive from members and

1039
00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:56,890
listeners.

1040
00:35:58,310 --> 00:36:00,350
Well, they're basing it on, she's saying that

1041
00:36:00,350 --> 00:36:02,110
they base it on how much they get.

1042
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:03,550
So how much did you raise?

1043
00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:04,270
$2 million.

1044
00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:06,250
Oh, your fee is- I don't think

1045
00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:06,910
that's right.

1046
00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:09,530
I don't know what she's talking about.

1047
00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:10,770
She's just rambling.

1048
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:12,990
I mean, I think she's maybe just be

1049
00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:14,350
snowing the guy.

1050
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:16,450
Well, here's the real question.

1051
00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:18,550
And this came from Jack as well.

1052
00:36:18,670 --> 00:36:20,750
Could NPR survive without the 5% that

1053
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:22,230
we give NPR annually?

1054
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:24,910
My belief is that the funding is essential

1055
00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:26,630
to the public radio system.

1056
00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:29,330
And that is the 246 member stations, but

1057
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:32,370
the 1300 stations across the nation, so that

1058
00:36:32,370 --> 00:36:34,850
we're able, as a network, to serve all

1059
00:36:34,850 --> 00:36:36,770
Americans with 100% coverage.

1060
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:38,070
This is bull crap.

1061
00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:40,270
This is a snow job, what she's saying

1062
00:36:40,270 --> 00:36:40,770
right here.

1063
00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:43,450
There is no substance to what she's saying.

1064
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:44,650
She's not answering the question.

1065
00:36:44,810 --> 00:36:46,850
Federal funding for our network goes away.

1066
00:36:46,990 --> 00:36:49,330
It means that people in rural parts of

1067
00:36:49,330 --> 00:36:51,510
America, places where they can't afford to make

1068
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:54,510
private donations to support their local journalism, those

1069
00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:55,110
will be harmed.

1070
00:36:55,290 --> 00:36:57,490
But, sir, if I may, the bigger harm

1071
00:36:57,490 --> 00:36:59,730
as well, or the additional harm, is that

1072
00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:02,150
Americans in places that are affluent or do

1073
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:07,690
have many media choices will not be able

1074
00:37:07,690 --> 00:37:11,470
to hear from their fellow Americans that are

1075
00:37:11,470 --> 00:37:12,410
often under her.

1076
00:37:12,510 --> 00:37:13,910
She says something very interesting.

1077
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:15,310
At first, I misheard her.

1078
00:37:15,790 --> 00:37:18,150
But she's saying, what I think she's saying

1079
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:21,150
here is rich people who've got a lot

1080
00:37:21,150 --> 00:37:22,910
of choice won't be able to hear the

1081
00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:24,510
poor suckers out in the sticks.

1082
00:37:24,670 --> 00:37:25,330
Tell me I'm wrong.

1083
00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:27,750
Americans in places that You better start it

1084
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:28,190
over there.

1085
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:31,010
Bigger harm as well, or the additional harm,

1086
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:33,770
is that Americans in places that are affluent

1087
00:37:33,770 --> 00:37:35,730
or do have many media choices will not

1088
00:37:35,730 --> 00:37:37,930
be able to hear from their fellow Americans

1089
00:37:37,930 --> 00:37:39,530
that are often under-heard.

1090
00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:41,150
Isn't that what she's saying?

1091
00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:44,130
You won't hear from the poor people without

1092
00:37:44,130 --> 00:37:44,650
us.

1093
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:47,570
That's exactly what she's saying.

1094
00:37:47,650 --> 00:37:49,910
I don't know how, what else could that

1095
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:50,290
mean?

1096
00:37:50,530 --> 00:37:53,710
So NPR So the rich people are gonna

1097
00:37:53,710 --> 00:37:54,350
suffer.

1098
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:54,850
Yes.

1099
00:37:55,010 --> 00:37:56,550
They're gonna suffer horribly.

1100
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:58,290
That's exactly what she's saying.

1101
00:37:58,970 --> 00:38:01,110
If they don't give the little people some

1102
00:38:01,110 --> 00:38:02,910
money so the little people can speak up

1103
00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:04,410
because the little people don't have a voice

1104
00:38:04,410 --> 00:38:05,650
without the government money.

1105
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:06,370
That's exactly.

1106
00:38:06,430 --> 00:38:08,410
So you bastards in the government, you better

1107
00:38:08,410 --> 00:38:09,990
give the little people some money because you're

1108
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:11,830
just, you're shutting them down.

1109
00:38:12,110 --> 00:38:14,250
Have you ever heard of X or Facebook?

1110
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:16,390
Little people have a voice these days, lady.

1111
00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:18,990
Americans in places that are affluent or do

1112
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:20,890
have many media choices will not be able

1113
00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:23,390
to hear from their fellow Americans that are

1114
00:38:23,390 --> 00:38:24,410
often under-heard.

1115
00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:26,450
And you're an NPR guy.

1116
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:28,730
Please make sure that next time you hear

1117
00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:31,190
some poor people who aren't heard, make sure

1118
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:33,250
that if they're ever on NPR, you clip

1119
00:38:33,250 --> 00:38:33,510
it.

1120
00:38:34,330 --> 00:38:36,650
Because usually I only hear douchebags.

1121
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:38,470
And it's all douchebags.

1122
00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:39,990
It's all douchebags.

1123
00:38:40,090 --> 00:38:42,510
Bottom line, if the 5% went away,

1124
00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:44,190
would NPR still exist?

1125
00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:46,390
Well, it would be incredibly damaging to the

1126
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:48,370
federal, to the, excuse me, to the national

1127
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:49,510
public radio system.

1128
00:38:50,810 --> 00:38:52,370
Well, this is why I say.

1129
00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:56,290
Wait, so in other words, 5%-

1130
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:57,550
Goes to the poor suckers.

1131
00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:00,190
The 5% is going to be incredibly

1132
00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:04,430
damaging because despite what we do, we can't

1133
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:08,690
make up 5% of that funding.

1134
00:39:08,910 --> 00:39:10,690
We can't find some other way of doing

1135
00:39:10,690 --> 00:39:10,850
it.

1136
00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:13,110
We can't open up a gates of hell

1137
00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:13,970
of advertise.

1138
00:39:14,170 --> 00:39:15,210
We can't do anything.

1139
00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:18,490
That 5% is all there is to

1140
00:39:18,490 --> 00:39:18,590
it.

1141
00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:19,630
That was the question.

1142
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:20,870
That was the question.

1143
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:23,470
Something is wrong with that answer.

1144
00:39:23,710 --> 00:39:26,270
So instead, we just hounded her.

1145
00:39:26,590 --> 00:39:28,430
It is fun to listen to this.

1146
00:39:28,530 --> 00:39:34,890
This was the representative, Brandon Gill, who did

1147
00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:38,830
exactly what they're doing to national security advisor,

1148
00:39:38,830 --> 00:39:39,390
Waltz.

1149
00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:42,490
Let's comb through your tweets and embarrass you.

1150
00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:44,470
It's interesting because a lot of your thinking

1151
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:46,210
as expressed by your public- Hold on,

1152
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:47,130
can you stop for a second?

1153
00:39:48,110 --> 00:39:51,090
It's John Kennedy, the guy from Louisiana, I

1154
00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:53,490
think is the guy who perfected this technique

1155
00:39:53,490 --> 00:39:54,230
in Congress.

1156
00:39:54,450 --> 00:39:56,570
Oh, and he has his own YouTube channels.

1157
00:39:57,490 --> 00:39:58,970
And you don't even know how old it

1158
00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:59,170
is.

1159
00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:00,990
I mean, it's evergreen, the stuff he does.

1160
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:04,970
Yeah, he has nothing but- Showbiz appeal.

1161
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:06,070
Did you write this tweet?

1162
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:07,290
Let me just get it straight.

1163
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:11,030
Is that something you actually wrote?

1164
00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:12,470
And she said, well, I think so.

1165
00:40:12,690 --> 00:40:13,410
Well, you would know.

1166
00:40:13,570 --> 00:40:15,010
I'm reading right from it.

1167
00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:16,450
You might, and it goes on and on.

1168
00:40:16,450 --> 00:40:18,110
This guy did a pretty good job.

1169
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:19,890
It's interesting because a lot of your thinking

1170
00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:23,310
as expressed by your public statements is deeply

1171
00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:26,130
infused with economic and cultural Marxism.

1172
00:40:26,910 --> 00:40:28,890
Do you believe that America is addicted to

1173
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:29,590
white supremacy?

1174
00:40:30,610 --> 00:40:32,530
I believe that I tweeted that.

1175
00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:34,430
And as I've said earlier, I believe much

1176
00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:36,550
of my thinking has evolved over the last

1177
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:37,090
half decade.

1178
00:40:37,150 --> 00:40:40,410
I've evolved as a human being because-

1179
00:40:40,410 --> 00:40:42,450
Wait, she said over the last half decade.

1180
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:43,790
I know, isn't that a great- You

1181
00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:44,590
mean five years.

1182
00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:47,910
It was only four, actually, to be honest,

1183
00:40:47,950 --> 00:40:49,670
if you look at the number, but it

1184
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:50,450
was four years ago.

1185
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:51,630
She wrote that.

1186
00:40:51,890 --> 00:40:52,110
Half a decade.

1187
00:40:52,270 --> 00:40:52,610
But she's good.

1188
00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:55,450
Oh, you know, everything's evolved over the last

1189
00:40:55,450 --> 00:40:58,470
half, that last half a decade.

1190
00:40:59,990 --> 00:41:00,810
That's amazing.

1191
00:41:00,950 --> 00:41:02,250
You mean during the Biden administration?

1192
00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:04,890
Earlier, I believe much of my thinking has

1193
00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:06,690
evolved over the last half decade.

1194
00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:07,870
It has evolved.

1195
00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:09,250
Why did you tweet that?

1196
00:41:09,690 --> 00:41:12,350
I don't recall the exact context, sir, so

1197
00:41:12,350 --> 00:41:13,230
I wouldn't be able to say.

1198
00:41:13,610 --> 00:41:13,890
Okay.

1199
00:41:14,410 --> 00:41:16,610
Do you believe that America believes in black

1200
00:41:16,610 --> 00:41:18,230
plunder and white democracy?

1201
00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:21,370
I don't believe that, sir.

1202
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:23,950
You tweeted that in reference to a book

1203
00:41:23,950 --> 00:41:25,950
you were reading at the time, apparently, The

1204
00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:27,230
Case for Reparations.

1205
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:29,110
I don't think I've ever read that book,

1206
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:29,290
sir.

1207
00:41:29,370 --> 00:41:30,850
This is my best, this is the best

1208
00:41:30,850 --> 00:41:31,070
one.

1209
00:41:31,470 --> 00:41:32,990
You were reading a book, or you tweeted

1210
00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:33,670
about this book.

1211
00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:35,350
I don't think I've read that book, sir.

1212
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:37,230
I don't think I read that book in

1213
00:41:37,230 --> 00:41:38,190
the last half decade.

1214
00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:40,170
Tweeted about it.

1215
00:41:40,810 --> 00:41:42,990
You said you took a day off to

1216
00:41:42,990 --> 00:41:45,090
fully read The Case for Reparations.

1217
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:47,250
Put that on Twitter in January of 2020.

1218
00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:49,370
So she's a liar.

1219
00:41:49,830 --> 00:41:51,130
Of course she didn't read the book.

1220
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:53,310
She didn't read White Fragility either.

1221
00:41:54,010 --> 00:41:55,770
It's just virtue signaling.

1222
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:58,170
I have a couple clips coming up later

1223
00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:00,550
in the show that also use this trick.

1224
00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:03,270
When you say, I'm thinking about this half

1225
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:06,370
decade thing, the first thing, if you're calculating

1226
00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:08,550
that in your mind, you think 10, that's

1227
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:09,850
50 years.

1228
00:42:10,510 --> 00:42:12,170
Because when you think of it, when you

1229
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:13,970
say half, and half is always at 0

1230
00:42:13,970 --> 00:42:16,650
.5, so it's 0.5 decade, 10, you

1231
00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:19,450
multiply, in your brain, you multiply it, and

1232
00:42:19,450 --> 00:42:21,790
so it says, in the last half decade,

1233
00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:25,250
it really, I think, subconsciously, it sounds like

1234
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:26,410
50 years.

1235
00:42:27,970 --> 00:42:31,810
I think it's a very tricky NLP, I

1236
00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:35,050
think it's an NLP trick, and it gives

1237
00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:37,070
you the sense that it's a long time.

1238
00:42:37,070 --> 00:42:39,350
Well, she also slipped in their federal public

1239
00:42:39,350 --> 00:42:40,930
radio, which I thought was interesting.

1240
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:43,250
Yeah, she's good.

1241
00:42:43,450 --> 00:42:44,710
Yeah, yeah, spook.

1242
00:42:44,970 --> 00:42:46,550
She may be a spook, but what's her

1243
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:46,990
name again?

1244
00:42:47,590 --> 00:42:49,850
Catherine Maher, Maher, Maher.

1245
00:42:50,090 --> 00:42:50,310
You're correct.

1246
00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:52,670
Said you took a day off to fully

1247
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:54,510
read the case for reparations.

1248
00:42:54,590 --> 00:42:56,250
You put that on Twitter in January of

1249
00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:56,690
2020.

1250
00:42:57,710 --> 00:42:59,450
I apologize, I don't recall that I did.

1251
00:42:59,830 --> 00:43:00,070
Okay.

1252
00:43:00,350 --> 00:43:03,030
I have no doubt that your tweet there

1253
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:04,590
is correct, but I don't recall that.

1254
00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:04,830
Okay.

1255
00:43:05,290 --> 00:43:07,930
Do you believe that white people inherently feel

1256
00:43:07,930 --> 00:43:09,170
superior to other races?

1257
00:43:09,610 --> 00:43:10,110
This is great.

1258
00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:15,330
This is your virtue signaling coming back and

1259
00:43:15,330 --> 00:43:17,110
slapping you in the face like a wet

1260
00:43:17,110 --> 00:43:17,530
salmon.

1261
00:43:17,950 --> 00:43:20,390
People inherently feel superior to other races?

1262
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:21,210
I do not.

1263
00:43:21,490 --> 00:43:21,930
You don't?

1264
00:43:22,090 --> 00:43:24,050
You tweeted something to that effect.

1265
00:43:24,130 --> 00:43:26,670
You said, I grew up feeling superior, ha,

1266
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:27,610
how white of me.

1267
00:43:27,890 --> 00:43:28,970
Why did you tweet that?

1268
00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:31,830
I think I was probably reflecting on what

1269
00:43:31,830 --> 00:43:34,490
it was to be, to grow up in

1270
00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:36,490
an environment where I had lots of advantages.

1271
00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:39,390
So that's a racist statement right there because

1272
00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:40,050
you were white.

1273
00:43:40,210 --> 00:43:41,850
That means that you had lots of advantages.

1274
00:43:42,090 --> 00:43:44,250
Have you seen, what about those poor schlubs

1275
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:46,510
who need 5% to listen to NPR,

1276
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:49,390
to create content for NPR so the rich

1277
00:43:49,390 --> 00:43:50,530
people can hear it?

1278
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:53,030
Okay.

1279
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:55,650
Let me stop you for a second.

1280
00:43:57,570 --> 00:44:00,330
After high school, Maher graduated from the Arabic

1281
00:44:00,330 --> 00:44:01,990
Language Institute.

1282
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:03,050
Oh yeah, we went there.

1283
00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:06,190
Intensive program at the American University of Cairo.

1284
00:44:06,190 --> 00:44:09,750
In 2003, she recalled a formative experience and

1285
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:11,550
she developed her interest in the Middle East.

1286
00:44:12,170 --> 00:44:13,110
What's she doing here?

1287
00:44:13,610 --> 00:44:15,950
Maher also studied at the Institut Francais.

1288
00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:18,370
And she was in Damascus.

1289
00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:19,270
She was in Syria.

1290
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:21,390
She spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia.

1291
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:24,810
I'm reminded of a meeting I had with

1292
00:44:24,810 --> 00:44:26,050
the economic hitman for lunch.

1293
00:44:26,190 --> 00:44:29,390
One time he says, my entire family says,

1294
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:32,010
don't take Arab, because they're all CIA spooks.

1295
00:44:32,050 --> 00:44:33,350
He said, don't take Arabic because you'll be

1296
00:44:33,350 --> 00:44:34,230
stuck in the Middle East.

1297
00:44:34,330 --> 00:44:35,430
No, you want Mandarin.

1298
00:44:35,710 --> 00:44:38,870
From 2007 to 2010, she was at UNICEF.

1299
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:41,370
Then she was at the National Democratic Institute

1300
00:44:41,370 --> 00:44:43,270
as an ICT program officer.

1301
00:44:43,410 --> 00:44:44,790
Worked at the World Bank.

1302
00:44:46,030 --> 00:44:47,170
She worked at Twitter.

1303
00:44:49,470 --> 00:44:52,910
DC-based Access Now Operation Advocacy.

1304
00:44:53,370 --> 00:44:56,810
This woman is Wikipedia Foundation.

1305
00:44:56,810 --> 00:44:59,230
She was the communications officer there.

1306
00:45:00,310 --> 00:45:02,190
Mary, just one thing after.

1307
00:45:02,330 --> 00:45:04,290
This is an unbelievable bio.

1308
00:45:04,850 --> 00:45:07,710
U.S. State Department Foreign Affairs Policy Board.

1309
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,220
Worked with Clinton.

1310
00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:13,860
Secreted with Hillary.

1311
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,220
She's just unbelievable.

1312
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:19,220
Well, this leads me to believe that Signal

1313
00:45:19,220 --> 00:45:20,460
is not a safe app.

1314
00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:24,360
Leads me to believe the exact same thing.

1315
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,520
Or it's just a backdoor operation.

1316
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,200
I was probably reflecting on what it was.

1317
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:29,960
You know, you could have probably, you know,

1318
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,920
talking about that, it's possible that they just

1319
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,260
slipped Jeffrey in and nobody really put him

1320
00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:37,580
on the call at all.

1321
00:45:38,020 --> 00:45:39,080
Very suspicious.

1322
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,600
And this woman is extremely suspicious.

1323
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,840
To grow up in an environment where I

1324
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,760
had lots of advantages.

1325
00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:49,060
It sounds like you're saying that white people

1326
00:45:49,060 --> 00:45:49,740
feel superior.

1327
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,820
I don't believe that anybody feels that way,

1328
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:52,980
sir.

1329
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:54,920
I was just reflecting on my own experiences.

1330
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,300
Do you think that white people should pay

1331
00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:56,980
reparations?

1332
00:45:57,460 --> 00:45:58,720
I have never said that, sir.

1333
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,240
Yes, you did.

1334
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,300
Said it in January of 2020.

1335
00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:02,820
You tweeted.

1336
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,240
Yes, you did.

1337
00:46:03,340 --> 00:46:04,040
Yes, the North.

1338
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,840
Yes, all of us.

1339
00:46:04,940 --> 00:46:05,580
Yes, America.

1340
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:08,880
Yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt.

1341
00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:10,040
Yes, reparations.

1342
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,100
Yes, on this day.

1343
00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:12,800
I don't believe that was a reference to

1344
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,100
fiscal reparations, sir.

1345
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,040
What kind of reparations was it a reference

1346
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,320
to?

1347
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,900
I think it was just a reference to

1348
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,200
the idea that we all owe much to

1349
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,360
the people who came before us.

1350
00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:24,420
That's a bizarre way to frame what you

1351
00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:24,840
tweeted.

1352
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:26,400
And he went on and on and on

1353
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,020
and on.

1354
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,900
But that was entertaining.

1355
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:30,460
Yeah, of course.

1356
00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:33,540
But in- But she was slick, I

1357
00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:34,100
watched her.

1358
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:36,240
She was calm, cool, and collected.

1359
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:41,160
Yeah, I mean, in regards to Signal, that's

1360
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:41,900
a little troubling.

1361
00:46:44,380 --> 00:46:46,540
I wonder why she, well, maybe on the

1362
00:46:46,540 --> 00:46:49,140
other hand, maybe that's exactly why it is

1363
00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:51,460
sanctioned for use within the government.

1364
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,720
Which I learned, I didn't know that.

1365
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:55,540
I didn't think that they could use their

1366
00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:58,980
private phones for anything that had a government

1367
00:46:58,980 --> 00:46:59,400
business.

1368
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,300
How about the, don't we have the National

1369
00:47:01,300 --> 00:47:03,260
Archive Act and all kinds of stuff that

1370
00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:06,620
you have to, no matter what has been

1371
00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:08,420
discussed, has to be archived somewhere?

1372
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,800
Yeah, supposedly.

1373
00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:15,780
Yeah, so someone needs to fess up or

1374
00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:16,600
someone needs to go.

1375
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:19,320
And I think that Hegseth is one more

1376
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,100
gaffe away.

1377
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:22,260
From Ben.

1378
00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:24,180
Yes, you're right, one more gaffe, he's done.

1379
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,120
Yeah, so I like him, but the way

1380
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,060
he responded, did not like him.

1381
00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:33,960
Thought that was a very, very poor, very

1382
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,300
poor.

1383
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:37,240
He wasn't, he's not using his resources.

1384
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Use your words, Pete.

1385
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,140
No, I'm talking about, you know, there are

1386
00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:44,960
people, the Pentagon has something like 27 to

1387
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,580
60,000 public relations specialists.

1388
00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:47,900
Yeah.

1389
00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:51,300
I mean, that many people, so they can

1390
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:52,320
just hound the media.

1391
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:55,880
And they have people there that could, how

1392
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,540
should I respond to this?

1393
00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:00,540
Meetings could take place with 10 of the

1394
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:01,300
top people.

1395
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:01,680
Yeah.

1396
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,560
And they would give him, you know, the

1397
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,540
marching orders.

1398
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,320
I don't think, I think they're cutting him

1399
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:06,560
off.

1400
00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:09,980
I wonder if this could have been a

1401
00:48:09,980 --> 00:48:13,780
Pegasus type deal where someone basically just controls

1402
00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:18,980
your phone and can remotely add someone to

1403
00:48:18,980 --> 00:48:19,740
a signal chat.

1404
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,060
Hey, hey, hey, watch this.

1405
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,640
That seems more likely.

1406
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:24,520
It wouldn't surprise me.

1407
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,280
By the way, you know, Tina's out of

1408
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:28,540
town.

1409
00:48:28,660 --> 00:48:31,700
She's in Indiana visiting her mom.

1410
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,580
And so that gives me an opportunity to

1411
00:48:33,580 --> 00:48:35,440
watch stuff that, you know how you, oh,

1412
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,500
you don't know per se, but we're sitting

1413
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:39,460
at home and I'm surfing through the Netflix

1414
00:48:39,460 --> 00:48:41,540
and I'm like, yeah, let's watch this.

1415
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:43,440
And like, oh no, that has Robert De

1416
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,060
Niro in it.

1417
00:48:44,060 --> 00:48:44,880
I hate him.

1418
00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:49,740
Which by the way, I'm like, yeah, you're

1419
00:48:49,740 --> 00:48:50,000
right.

1420
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,680
So I watched Zero Day, which is starring

1421
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,980
De Niro and he plays the president, ex

1422
00:48:57,980 --> 00:48:59,020
-president of the United States.

1423
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,700
Very good movie.

1424
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,580
And it deals a lot with what can

1425
00:49:04,580 --> 00:49:08,020
happen with phones and apps and even more

1426
00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:11,620
delightful how, you know what the circumvention is.

1427
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,440
You know, everyone gets around all of these,

1428
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,420
all of these things when they're doing something

1429
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:16,000
nefarious.

1430
00:49:16,060 --> 00:49:17,460
How did the bad guys communicate?

1431
00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:21,480
How?

1432
00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:23,040
Ham radio, baby.

1433
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,320
Ham radio.

1434
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:28,420
That's when the story- Well, you know,

1435
00:49:28,540 --> 00:49:30,520
De Niro was also in Wag the Dog.

1436
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,020
Which was a fantastic movie.

1437
00:49:32,140 --> 00:49:33,100
Which is another fantastic movie.

1438
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:35,040
He was great until he had to pull

1439
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,260
his own documentary out of the Tribeca Film

1440
00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:39,840
Festival about how his kid got autism and

1441
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,000
he thought it was from vaccines.

1442
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:43,700
And then they were like, you'll never make

1443
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:46,240
another movie in this town again, De Niro.

1444
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,040
Oh, okay.

1445
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Do you remember that?

1446
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,280
No, I- That was during the show.

1447
00:49:51,460 --> 00:49:52,900
That information has been lost on me.

1448
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:54,060
No, that was during the show.

1449
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,820
Yeah, he pulled, from his own film festival,

1450
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,480
he pulled the doc- Oh, no, there's

1451
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,920
not enough evidence about this.

1452
00:50:01,980 --> 00:50:04,040
I've decided to pull this documentary.

1453
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,280
That's when he went sour.

1454
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:06,900
Come on, man, taxi driver.

1455
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,840
Was he a taxi driver?

1456
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:09,740
Yeah.

1457
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,240
Yeah.

1458
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:10,860
Yeah.

1459
00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:12,500
So.

1460
00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:14,340
Well, what else we got in this regard?

1461
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,000
Well, I don't think much else.

1462
00:50:16,060 --> 00:50:17,500
I mean, we'll just see what happens, but

1463
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:19,680
we need to keep an eye on Hegseth

1464
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,180
because I think he's on deck.

1465
00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:25,000
Yeah, that's what it looks like.

1466
00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:27,300
They're not letting up on this.

1467
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,080
Doesn't matter, you got a top MS-13

1468
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,480
guy?

1469
00:50:30,620 --> 00:50:31,080
Who cares?

1470
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:31,720
Signal Gate.

1471
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,400
You're gonna put 25% tariff on all

1472
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,540
cars coming into America?

1473
00:50:36,620 --> 00:50:37,060
Who cares?

1474
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:37,740
Signal Gate.

1475
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,240
Who cares?

1476
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,520
Nobody cares.

1477
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,360
Everybody wants it.

1478
00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:43,380
Get some veterans.

1479
00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:46,220
Well, I've fought in the war and people

1480
00:50:46,220 --> 00:50:50,120
I know died because of intelligence mess-ups.

1481
00:50:51,380 --> 00:50:53,820
So cynical, all this stuff.

1482
00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:55,340
I hate mainstream media.

1483
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,460
So let's go to the car tariffs.

1484
00:50:58,740 --> 00:50:59,060
Okay.

1485
00:51:00,420 --> 00:51:02,740
I have the BBC, I have a series,

1486
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,640
these are all spelled C-A-E, and

1487
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,880
tariff is misspelled.

1488
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,900
I usually correct these with this one.

1489
00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:13,240
You got K-Rarefs.

1490
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,220
I thought K-Rarefs was a lady that

1491
00:51:15,220 --> 00:51:16,220
I was very interested in.

1492
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,880
When I saw your clips come in, people

1493
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,520
would have to know, John sends me clips,

1494
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,400
I don't listen to him.

1495
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,300
I just look at the titles to know,

1496
00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:24,860
okay, maybe I don't need a whole series

1497
00:51:24,860 --> 00:51:27,680
of clips here because if there's something about

1498
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,560
K-Rarefs in the news, I don't need

1499
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,260
a clip on her.

1500
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,000
It was a typo.

1501
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,100
And apparently she's an anal.

1502
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,640
It was blurry.

1503
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,540
So we start with the now, my vision

1504
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:39,240
was blurry.

1505
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,360
Do you drive?

1506
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,780
This is the one, this is not the

1507
00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:44,800
analysis clips.

1508
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,900
Yeah, this is the kickoff.

1509
00:51:46,940 --> 00:51:48,720
Now, just the BBC straight up.

1510
00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:49,680
Wait, is this World Service?

1511
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:52,240
Yeah, BBC World Service.

1512
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,460
And now another series of clips from the

1513
00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:55,980
BBC World Service.

1514
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:58,920
President Trump has announced a 25% tariff

1515
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,400
on all cars imported into the United States

1516
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,440
from the 2nd of April.

1517
00:52:02,860 --> 00:52:04,640
He claimed the measure would spur growth in

1518
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,760
the U.S. car industry and create jobs

1519
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,480
and investment.

1520
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Our North America business correspondent, Erin Delmore reports.

1521
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,600
President Trump said the new tariffs would bring

1522
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,540
car and truck production back to the U

1523
00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:17,900
.S. and generate billions of dollars in revenue.

1524
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:20,260
Mr. Trump made clear that the new tariffs

1525
00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:23,140
are permanent and not a negotiating tactic designed

1526
00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:25,460
to extract concessions from America's trade partners.

1527
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,360
But determining which vehicles are made in America

1528
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,940
can be complicated, particularly when it comes to

1529
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:33,220
America's closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada.

1530
00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:35,920
The new taxes will immediately hit millions of

1531
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,560
foreign-made cars sold in the U.S.

1532
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,100
each year.

1533
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,200
The move is poised to send a shock

1534
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,500
through the industry with potential for higher prices,

1535
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:44,580
lower supply and lower production.

1536
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:46,980
Shares of the U.S.'s big three automakers

1537
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:48,400
fell in after-hours trading.

1538
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,320
Okay, well, shaking things up.

1539
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:54,580
I don't know why the prices would fall

1540
00:52:54,580 --> 00:52:56,220
because you think these guys, the U.S.

1541
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:58,360
automakers would benefit, but I guess the only

1542
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,500
car that's actually made here is Tesla.

1543
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,260
The rest of them are made from parts

1544
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:04,680
from everywhere.

1545
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,500
Isn't there a carve-out for parts?

1546
00:53:07,420 --> 00:53:08,480
No, not yet.

1547
00:53:08,660 --> 00:53:09,860
Yeah, I think you're wrong.

1548
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,220
Well, they've been talking about it.

1549
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,720
I listened to this morning, I was watching

1550
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:19,760
Outnumbered, and they had Charles Payne on as

1551
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,000
the dude, because there's a bunch of women

1552
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:22,560
and one guy.

1553
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:25,020
And that's why it's called Outnumbered.

1554
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,520
Yes, yes.

1555
00:53:25,780 --> 00:53:27,920
And he went on about it, and they

1556
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,980
talked about the car parts carve-out, and

1557
00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:31,880
it was like, it was still unsettled.

1558
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,880
Ah, well, I'm just going to interrupt, and

1559
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,980
then we'll get back to your BBC anal

1560
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:36,300
clips.

1561
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,800
This is a French- Analysis is what

1562
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,740
it is.

1563
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,740
I know what it says.

1564
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,400
This production line in Japan is churning out

1565
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,860
Toyota cars, many of them destined for the

1566
00:53:45,860 --> 00:53:47,860
U.S. In a week's time, they'll be

1567
00:53:47,860 --> 00:53:51,120
subject to a punishing 25% tariff, prompting

1568
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,880
the government to plead for an exclusion.

1569
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,300
We have, again, strongly urged the U.S.

1570
00:53:58,380 --> 00:54:00,800
government to exclude Japan from the scope of

1571
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,440
these measures.

1572
00:54:04,180 --> 00:54:05,880
But only if the cars made in America

1573
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,840
- Other top suppliers hit hard by the

1574
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,120
tax are Canada, Mexico, Germany, and South Korea.

1575
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:13,840
Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney called it a

1576
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,840
direct attack on the country's workers.

1577
00:54:16,580 --> 00:54:17,940
We will defend our workers.

1578
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,380
We will defend- Our companies will defend

1579
00:54:21,380 --> 00:54:22,520
our country.

1580
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,700
Currently, half the cars sold in the U

1581
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,580
.S. are American-made, and industry experts say

1582
00:54:28,580 --> 00:54:30,780
the move could increase prices per car by

1583
00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:33,020
thousands of dollars and impact jobs.

1584
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:36,380
President Donald Trump says it will revitalize American

1585
00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:36,940
industry.

1586
00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:44,280
And we're going to charge countries for doing

1587
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,060
business in our country and taking our jobs,

1588
00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:47,940
taking our wealth.

1589
00:54:48,340 --> 00:54:50,880
After a 25% duty on steel and

1590
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,760
aluminum, this is Trump's latest move to renege

1591
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,500
on a trade deal he struck in his

1592
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:57,460
first term with Mexico and Canada.

1593
00:54:57,980 --> 00:55:00,140
The new tariff applies to cars and light

1594
00:55:00,140 --> 00:55:00,720
trucks.

1595
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Auto parts that comply with the 2019 deal

1596
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,400
will remain tariff-free for now.

1597
00:55:05,780 --> 00:55:06,280
There you go.

1598
00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:08,440
Yeah, I don't think that's correct.

1599
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,000
Oh, it's France 24.

1600
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:11,300
How could you doubt the French?

1601
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:13,080
Yeah, I don't think they know what they're

1602
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,600
talking about.

1603
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,300
All right, OK.

1604
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:17,440
So let's go with the analysis clips.

1605
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,480
These should be fairly short.

1606
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,100
Here to make sense of that announcement is

1607
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,260
our North of America correspondent Aaron Delmore.

1608
00:55:24,260 --> 00:55:26,140
Clearest way through it is to think of

1609
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:28,440
it as a 25% tariff on all

1610
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,000
cars not made in the United States and

1611
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,680
no tariffs on cars made in the United

1612
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,260
States.

1613
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,160
He also made a mention that Americans would

1614
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,740
be able to deduct interest payments on their

1615
00:55:39,740 --> 00:55:42,880
car loans from their taxes if their cars

1616
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,860
are made in America.

1617
00:55:44,140 --> 00:55:45,160
You know, to me, one of the big

1618
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,780
things that stood out is he said he's

1619
00:55:46,780 --> 00:55:47,320
not budging.

1620
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,960
He said that these tariffs are permanent and

1621
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,700
that he's not putting this forward as a

1622
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:55,000
negotiating tactic to try to get concessions from

1623
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,120
America's trade partners in future tariff negotiations.

1624
00:55:58,300 --> 00:55:59,740
He said, this is permanent.

1625
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,980
We are going to bring domestic production, domestic

1626
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:04,360
manufacturing of cars and trucks back to the

1627
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,000
United States.

1628
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,380
What about car parts coming into the US?

1629
00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:11,800
Is there any clarification yet as whether they

1630
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,020
may face import duties?

1631
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,040
Because that would be significant, wouldn't it?

1632
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:15,680
Absolutely.

1633
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,320
Here's why it would be significant.

1634
00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:19,900
Car parts can come in from foreign suppliers,

1635
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:22,580
but they also are made in Mexico and

1636
00:56:22,580 --> 00:56:25,100
Canada as well, and then cross borders into

1637
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:28,460
the United States into US production facilities for

1638
00:56:28,460 --> 00:56:31,140
cars that look to be US-made.

1639
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,400
They look and purport to be American-made

1640
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,700
cars, but perhaps within the cars, there are

1641
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:37,220
not American-made parts.

1642
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,300
Those are foreign-made parts.

1643
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,220
And so now the question, yes, is will

1644
00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:40,920
they be tariffed?

1645
00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:43,320
The best indication and reporting we have now

1646
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,160
is that the answer to that question is

1647
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,580
yes.

1648
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:48,320
It is, yes, that appears to be the

1649
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,040
case.

1650
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,620
Well, there goes my Corinthian leather.

1651
00:56:53,940 --> 00:56:55,220
Ha ha ha ha.

1652
00:56:55,860 --> 00:56:56,500
That took two pieces to get.

1653
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:58,280
Another boomer joke.

1654
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,760
Wow.

1655
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,760
I'm easing into my role.

1656
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:03,040
You're getting worse, by the way.

1657
00:57:03,740 --> 00:57:05,000
I'm easing into it.

1658
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,020
I'm starting to like it.

1659
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:06,540
Corinthian leather.

1660
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:06,920
Yeah.

1661
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:09,380
The old timers that listen to this show

1662
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:10,700
must get a kick out of us.

1663
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,840
Someone, hopefully somewhere does.

1664
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,060
Well, the kids don't.

1665
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,780
They're going, what the fuck are these guys

1666
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:16,500
talking about?

1667
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,180
So here we go with clip two.

1668
00:57:19,180 --> 00:57:21,380
This announcement, I mean, we are used to

1669
00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:23,060
lots of tariff announcement.

1670
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,660
This seems a pretty serious one because Donald

1671
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:29,580
Trump has clearly said he's not going to

1672
00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:30,660
withdraw these tariffs.

1673
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,320
Absolutely.

1674
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,640
And it's a really interesting line in the

1675
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:34,960
sand.

1676
00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:36,340
I'm listening to Mark Carney there.

1677
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,640
You know, having spent a lot of time

1678
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,560
in Canada, you know, the Canadian auto sector

1679
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,000
is hugely reliant.

1680
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,200
This is, you know, hundreds of thousands of

1681
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,320
jobs, billions of dollars.

1682
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,860
So very significant.

1683
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:48,440
But I think around the world, now it's

1684
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,340
not going to affect Australia.

1685
00:57:49,460 --> 00:57:50,560
We don't make any cars anymore.

1686
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,180
Haven't for quite some time.

1687
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:54,180
So it won't have an impact directly in

1688
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:54,660
that way.

1689
00:57:54,740 --> 00:57:56,820
But, you know, these things have a tendency

1690
00:57:56,820 --> 00:57:59,040
of having a big ripple effect, right?

1691
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,280
And across other sectors.

1692
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:05,180
And, you know, the steel, aluminium tariffs that

1693
00:58:05,180 --> 00:58:06,320
will be coming onto Australia.

1694
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,600
Already there's shaking the chain on drugs and

1695
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:10,980
medicines.

1696
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,580
That's something Australia provides a lot of medicines

1697
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:15,660
to the US and brings a lot in.

1698
00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:20,080
We have a free medicines policy or programme

1699
00:58:20,660 --> 00:58:22,680
for lots of Australians rely on the government

1700
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,140
to buy for no cost or low cost

1701
00:58:25,140 --> 00:58:25,520
medicines.

1702
00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:27,420
Ireland's also worried about it.

1703
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,620
So, but I mean, I don't know, can

1704
00:58:29,620 --> 00:58:32,200
he really have a permanent tariff?

1705
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:32,780
I don't know.

1706
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,800
I don't know whether that's possible.

1707
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,020
I would imagine, unless he intends to be

1708
00:58:36,020 --> 00:58:37,680
the permanent president, I wouldn't think there'd be

1709
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,600
permanent tariffs, but I don't know.

1710
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,380
And I don't think we should be predicting

1711
00:58:43,380 --> 00:58:44,520
too much at this point.

1712
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,880
Stephanie, it is a complicated issue and tariffs

1713
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,000
here because the global car industry operates in

1714
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,460
so many different parts of the world.

1715
00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:56,640
So you're sitting there in your office and

1716
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,480
you're like, oh yeah, I gotta do this.

1717
00:58:59,540 --> 00:59:01,900
I gotta get that laugh extra extra kooky.

1718
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,880
We don't, we do work for you people.

1719
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:07,400
What was it?

1720
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,340
Shaking the chain, I like that.

1721
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:10,340
Shaking the chain.

1722
00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:13,100
This whole thing is because, this is a

1723
00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:17,200
non-significant, or a quite significant idea that

1724
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,360
he thinks he's gonna do.

1725
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:22,560
The global, you start to realize when you

1726
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,660
start hearing these analysis, especially the moaning and

1727
00:59:25,660 --> 00:59:27,220
groaning that takes place from everyone.

1728
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,160
Oh, the Australians, now they're worried about this

1729
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,520
and that.

1730
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,040
And all the Canadians think it's all about

1731
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:32,340
them.

1732
00:59:33,380 --> 00:59:37,380
You realize that the globalist entanglements have been

1733
00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:38,980
set up so well.

1734
00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:39,640
It's massive.

1735
00:59:40,340 --> 00:59:40,960
It's massive.

1736
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,940
That it's like, wow, these guys, Trump is

1737
00:59:43,940 --> 00:59:45,380
not gonna pull this off.

1738
00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:48,120
I don't think he's gonna pull it off.

1739
00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:48,780
Oh, I think he will.

1740
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:50,300
Oh, I definitely think he will.

1741
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:52,040
And I'll tell you why after your clips.

1742
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:52,900
Okay.

1743
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:53,560
All right.

1744
00:59:53,860 --> 00:59:54,300
Onward.

1745
00:59:54,580 --> 00:59:56,720
Around 50% of cars sold in the

1746
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:57,560
US are imported.

1747
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,060
It is the world's biggest importer of cars.

1748
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:03,140
About 22% of those imports in 2024

1749
01:00:03,140 --> 01:00:04,580
came from Mexico.

1750
01:00:05,060 --> 01:00:07,220
Juan Carlos Baker Pineda, of course, familiar voice

1751
01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:09,880
on this program, is Mexico's former vice minister

1752
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,800
for foreign trade, currently a researcher at the

1753
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,840
Pan American University in Mexico City.

1754
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,900
Quintus, hello, Juan Carlos.

1755
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:18,140
Hiya.

1756
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,180
Yeah, you know, there's a lot going on

1757
01:00:20,180 --> 01:00:21,200
in the world and there's a lot of

1758
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,360
confusion about many things.

1759
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:23,880
You're in Mexico.

1760
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,520
I am.

1761
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,080
Yeah.

1762
01:00:25,180 --> 01:00:25,580
Yes.

1763
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:26,920
What do you make of this decision?

1764
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,140
It could have a huge impact on the

1765
01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:29,920
car industry there.

1766
01:00:30,020 --> 01:00:30,560
I love this.

1767
01:00:30,580 --> 01:00:31,160
You're in Mexico.

1768
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,140
Yes, yes.

1769
01:00:32,220 --> 01:00:33,060
I'm a country town.

1770
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:33,660
I'm in Mexico.

1771
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:37,940
Yes, absolutely.

1772
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,920
And the consequences of this are not entirely

1773
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,580
clear right now.

1774
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,020
But as you say, the impact on this

1775
01:00:45,020 --> 01:00:49,660
is very significant because cars represent the largest

1776
01:00:49,660 --> 01:00:52,540
export of Mexico to the United States.

1777
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,600
It also represents a significant sizable contribution of

1778
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,300
the GDP, anywhere between 8% and 9

1779
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:02,020
% of Mexico's GDP somehow is connected to

1780
01:01:02,020 --> 01:01:02,980
the automotive industry.

1781
01:01:02,980 --> 01:01:03,640
So there's a lot of confusion.

1782
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,940
The fact that these tariffs are announced and

1783
01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:07,940
the fact that President Trump seems to have

1784
01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:10,760
no regard whatsoever for the USMCA and its

1785
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,640
rules clearly is very disturbing.

1786
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,660
Right now, today, the Minister of the Economy,

1787
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,120
Secretary Marcelo Ebrard and his team are in

1788
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,840
Washington and it has been reported that they

1789
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,640
will be having meetings tonight and tomorrow with

1790
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,080
the people of President Trump's cabinet, the Secretary

1791
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:28,540
of Commerce.

1792
01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:31,100
And clearly something has to be worked out

1793
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,720
because if the tariffs are imposed, as the

1794
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,840
President suggests, well, the impact on Mexico is

1795
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,020
gonna be significant and it's gonna change the

1796
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:40,960
moods, I would say, Rahul, between Mexico and

1797
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,960
the United States right now.

1798
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:44,540
And the relationship as it is is going

1799
01:01:44,540 --> 01:01:47,280
through some tense moments and this clearly is

1800
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,200
not gonna help at all.

1801
01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:52,900
Go on and on.

1802
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:54,460
And so let's go to the last clip,

1803
01:01:54,580 --> 01:01:56,260
which is, I think, another...

1804
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,440
So we have the Mexicans complaining, the Australians

1805
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,040
complaining.

1806
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,260
I don't know why they're complaining.

1807
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:04,900
The Canadians complaining, the Europeans, everyone's complaining.

1808
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,480
Because they believe he's serious and I think

1809
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:08,920
he is.

1810
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,640
Let us hear a couple of more voices

1811
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:10,920
now.

1812
01:02:11,060 --> 01:02:12,100
Firstly, here's Glenn Stevens.

1813
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,620
He's Executive Director of Detroit-based industry, auto

1814
01:02:15,620 --> 01:02:16,700
industry group, Mitch Auto.

1815
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:18,480
He told me these tariffs are bad news

1816
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,240
for the industry and customers.

1817
01:02:20,620 --> 01:02:22,520
We don't see any positives in the short

1818
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:22,820
term.

1819
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:24,940
We had anticipated this.

1820
01:02:25,340 --> 01:02:29,140
The President had signaled this, but about half

1821
01:02:29,140 --> 01:02:30,680
of the vehicles sold in the United States

1822
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,280
every year are imported, 7.68 million last

1823
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:34,520
year.

1824
01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:36,340
So this is a significant shock to the

1825
01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:36,640
system.

1826
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:39,660
We also have steel and aluminum tariffs.

1827
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,080
We have China tariffs, now reciprocal, and now

1828
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:42,720
these tariffs.

1829
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,440
The cost of the vehicle, the input costs

1830
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,160
will go up.

1831
01:02:46,940 --> 01:02:49,340
We expect anywhere from 3,000 to 10

1832
01:02:49,340 --> 01:02:51,840
,000, depending on the transaction price of the

1833
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,580
vehicle, it will increase.

1834
01:02:53,740 --> 01:02:55,980
And in the US, a vehicle already costs

1835
01:02:55,980 --> 01:02:59,380
$49,000 to purchase new on average.

1836
01:02:59,380 --> 01:03:01,200
So it's already at an all-time high.

1837
01:03:01,660 --> 01:03:02,880
We're concerned about this.

1838
01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:04,800
We have a lot of questions right now,

1839
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,280
tonight, that we're trying to sort through.

1840
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,120
What's a tough one on your list that

1841
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,180
you're gonna try and answer?

1842
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,420
Which is the one you're struggling with at

1843
01:03:11,420 --> 01:03:12,160
the most at the moment?

1844
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,280
Are you trying to make sense of this?

1845
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:16,980
Yeah, the number one issue is, are vehicles

1846
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:20,560
from Canada and Mexico, because of the existing

1847
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,180
USMCA agreement, are they included in this?

1848
01:03:24,260 --> 01:03:26,700
It appears that they are, but we don't

1849
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,060
have confirmation of that.

1850
01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:30,520
And that is a big situation, particularly for

1851
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,260
the companies based in Michigan, Ford, GM, and

1852
01:03:33,260 --> 01:03:33,680
Stellantis.

1853
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,160
So just to give you an idea, and

1854
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,200
actually one of our producers just posted that

1855
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,200
in the troll room.

1856
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:50,780
In the Netherlands, you have something called BPM,

1857
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:57,040
which is a special tax for cars.

1858
01:03:58,060 --> 01:04:02,980
And if you do the math, let me

1859
01:04:02,980 --> 01:04:06,540
see, a Ford Mustang, which costs, what is

1860
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:08,280
it, $35,000, $40,000?

1861
01:04:09,020 --> 01:04:09,580
Yeah.

1862
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:13,840
In the Netherlands, 120,000, after the VAT,

1863
01:04:14,140 --> 01:04:16,700
the BPM, the climate tax, all that stuff

1864
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:17,240
is put on.

1865
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,780
But BPM is just a made up number.

1866
01:04:19,980 --> 01:04:23,880
It's like, oh, well, we gotta tax you

1867
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,260
for that.

1868
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,760
So Trump is not wrong.

1869
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:29,000
No, I think he's correct.

1870
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,240
And when you look at- What I'm

1871
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,960
saying is that I'm not complaining about his

1872
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,200
correctness or his righteousness about this.

1873
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,060
I'm complaining, not complaining, but I'm suggesting that

1874
01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:47,080
the entanglements are so broad-based that it's

1875
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,020
going to be almost impossible to actually make

1876
01:04:50,020 --> 01:04:50,680
any of this work.

1877
01:04:50,700 --> 01:04:53,680
Well, but this is the hill he's going

1878
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,260
to die on.

1879
01:04:54,260 --> 01:04:58,740
This has been his thing for 30, 40

1880
01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:00,620
years he's been talking about this.

1881
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,260
So now he has the opportunity, and he

1882
01:05:03,260 --> 01:05:05,440
means it, and he's trying to brand it,

1883
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,900
but he's not doing a very good job.

1884
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:08,840
Well, I may give a lot of countries

1885
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,520
breaks, but it's reciprocal, but we might be

1886
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,060
even nicer than that.

1887
01:05:14,260 --> 01:05:15,360
You know, we've been very nice to a

1888
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,440
lot of countries for a long time, but

1889
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,400
I call it Liberation Day.

1890
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,300
April 2nd is Liberation Day.

1891
01:05:21,820 --> 01:05:23,360
But today, as you know, we did something

1892
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,720
with respect to Venezuela.

1893
01:05:25,060 --> 01:05:25,800
You heard about that.

1894
01:05:26,580 --> 01:05:28,860
And that will be quite important.

1895
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,960
We'll be announcing some additional tariffs over the

1896
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,720
next few days, having to do with automobiles,

1897
01:05:35,860 --> 01:05:37,800
cars, and having also to do a little

1898
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,680
bit with lumber down the road, lumber and

1899
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:41,780
chips.

1900
01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:44,060
We're going to get all those chip companies

1901
01:05:44,060 --> 01:05:44,680
coming back.

1902
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,440
They're already coming back without even doing it.

1903
01:05:47,500 --> 01:05:49,660
So it's been very good, but we'll be

1904
01:05:49,660 --> 01:05:50,580
announcing some others.

1905
01:05:50,580 --> 01:05:52,860
But for the most part, April 2nd will

1906
01:05:52,860 --> 01:05:53,420
be a big day.

1907
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,700
That'll be reciprocal day.

1908
01:05:54,860 --> 01:05:57,140
And we'll be bringing some of the money

1909
01:05:57,140 --> 01:05:59,920
back that's been taken from us.

1910
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:01,660
Let's be nice by using the word taken.

1911
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,380
I don't want to use a stronger word

1912
01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:06,060
because these guys are professional politicians and they

1913
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:07,340
don't like to hear those words.

1914
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,400
I refuse to use the word stolen from

1915
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:10,680
us.

1916
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,100
So it's Liberation Day.

1917
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,520
It's Reciprocal Day.

1918
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:16,400
It's, I don't know what day it is.

1919
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:18,340
It's April 2nd.

1920
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:19,780
He needs to work on it.

1921
01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:21,680
That's what you mean by he's not branding.

1922
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:22,500
No, no.

1923
01:06:22,660 --> 01:06:25,180
I mean, if you're going to do Liberation

1924
01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:26,560
Day, you need a media package.

1925
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,500
You need some memes out there on the

1926
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:34,100
internet of people with big F250s and Mustangs,

1927
01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:35,540
you know, cruising around.

1928
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,660
Yeah, it could be coordinated better.

1929
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,160
Not to mention he's better.

1930
01:06:40,580 --> 01:06:44,020
There's really no, he's sticking with his, you

1931
01:06:44,020 --> 01:06:46,020
know, running a million miles an hour, but

1932
01:06:46,020 --> 01:06:48,180
not really coordinating anything in such a way

1933
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:50,720
that you have a big splash that goes

1934
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:51,880
from one thing to another.

1935
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,960
Yeah, so instead he has a very small

1936
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:55,540
announcement.

1937
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,460
Today we're delighted to report that Hyundai is

1938
01:06:58,460 --> 01:07:01,960
announcing a major $5.8 billion investment in

1939
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,500
American manufacturing.

1940
01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:06,540
In particular, Hyundai will be building a brand

1941
01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:09,080
new steel plant in Louisiana, which will produce

1942
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,160
more than 2.7 million metric tons of

1943
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,060
steel a year, creating more than 1,400

1944
01:07:14,060 --> 01:07:16,720
jobs for American steel workers.

1945
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,120
And then there'll be major expansion after that.

1946
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,400
This will be Hyundai's first ever steel mill

1947
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,120
in the United States, one of the largest

1948
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,820
companies in the world, by the way, supplying

1949
01:07:26,820 --> 01:07:29,520
steel for its auto parts and auto plants

1950
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,540
in Alabama and Georgia, which will soon produce

1951
01:07:32,540 --> 01:07:35,060
more than 1 million American-made cars every

1952
01:07:35,060 --> 01:07:35,780
single year.

1953
01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:38,340
The cars are coming into this country at

1954
01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:39,600
levels never seen before.

1955
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:40,620
Get ready.

1956
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,840
This investment is a clear demonstration that tariffs

1957
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,820
very strongly work, and I hope other things

1958
01:07:48,820 --> 01:07:51,240
also, but the tariffs are bringing them in

1959
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,300
at levels that have not been witnessed.

1960
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,240
So a million American cars.

1961
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,700
Well, I mean, everyone's going to buy an

1962
01:08:00,700 --> 01:08:01,940
American car if you're going to buy a

1963
01:08:01,940 --> 01:08:03,760
car, or American-made car, I should say.

1964
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,060
That part will work, especially if you get,

1965
01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:09,780
if you're allowed to deduct the interest on

1966
01:08:09,780 --> 01:08:10,520
your car loan.

1967
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,280
Whoa, now you're talking.

1968
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:15,140
But that's a Congress thing.

1969
01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:17,100
That's not an executive order, is it?

1970
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:17,920
That's a tax thing.

1971
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,279
Yeah, which is Congress.

1972
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,160
I would say, the problem is we don't,

1973
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:27,460
with half the cars being imported, until these

1974
01:08:27,460 --> 01:08:29,540
reports came out, I didn't realize that half

1975
01:08:29,540 --> 01:08:31,640
of our, in other words, our own automotive

1976
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,200
industry can't even keep up with the Toyota.

1977
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:34,920
No.

1978
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,920
And the BMW and all the people that

1979
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,439
ship cars into this country.

1980
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,640
So half of them are imported.

1981
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,279
They'd have to double production of American cars,

1982
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:46,240
which they're not going to be able to

1983
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:46,399
do.

1984
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,939
You can't just double production overnight.

1985
01:08:50,700 --> 01:08:52,359
And I think what one thing that's going

1986
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:53,840
to happen is the used car market is

1987
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:54,880
going to heat up again.

1988
01:08:55,660 --> 01:08:55,760
Exactly.

1989
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:57,899
I'm like, I'm not driving my car.

1990
01:08:58,020 --> 01:08:59,819
I'm keeping my miles, but I'll need a

1991
01:08:59,819 --> 01:09:00,080
car.

1992
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:01,479
That's the problem.

1993
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:03,359
Yeah, you need a car.

1994
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,700
Do you have wind chimes in your studio

1995
01:09:05,700 --> 01:09:06,500
now all of a sudden?

1996
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,240
Oh, this is these things in the back.

1997
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:09,899
It's funny.

1998
01:09:10,060 --> 01:09:11,859
You know, I don't understand how that mic

1999
01:09:11,859 --> 01:09:12,740
can pick this up.

2000
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,520
It's my ears.

2001
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,620
Well, I don't think anyone else can anyway.

2002
01:09:16,819 --> 01:09:17,640
Ask the chat room.

2003
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:19,319
I'm going to- We don't have a

2004
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:19,520
chat room.

2005
01:09:19,939 --> 01:09:20,340
Yeah, trolls.

2006
01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:21,760
Trolls, do you hear the chimes?

2007
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:24,560
Now I'm ringing them loud.

2008
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,120
Yeah, well, you hear that for sure.

2009
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:27,859
Well, not necessarily.

2010
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,359
That's on the backside of the mic.

2011
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,520
Everybody hears it.

2012
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:31,520
Everybody hears it.

2013
01:09:31,740 --> 01:09:32,399
They all hear that?

2014
01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:33,580
Yeah, they all hear it.

2015
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:35,460
Yes.

2016
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:37,200
That's disappointing.

2017
01:09:37,630 --> 01:09:38,840
It must be reflective.

2018
01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:40,380
That could be it.

2019
01:09:40,460 --> 01:09:43,800
Of course, one of the hottest car manufacturers

2020
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,740
right now is certainly not American.

2021
01:09:45,939 --> 01:09:48,380
BYD sales last year surpassed the $100 billion

2022
01:09:48,380 --> 01:09:51,300
mark, beating rival Tesla on revenue for the

2023
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:53,240
first time since 2018.

2024
01:09:53,540 --> 01:09:56,140
It reported a revenue of $107 billion for

2025
01:09:56,140 --> 01:09:58,880
2024, up 29%.

2026
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,140
Tesla's 2024 revenue, meanwhile, stood at 97.7

2027
01:10:03,140 --> 01:10:03,480
billion.

2028
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,280
This year already looks like it could be

2029
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,160
an even better one for the Chinese EV

2030
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:07,520
maker.

2031
01:10:07,660 --> 01:10:10,420
It unveiled a new ecosystem that allows EVs

2032
01:10:10,420 --> 01:10:12,860
to charge for 400 kilometers in just five

2033
01:10:12,860 --> 01:10:16,800
minutes and introduced advanced driver assistance technology in

2034
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,560
even its most basic models.

2035
01:10:19,060 --> 01:10:19,820
You wanted to say something?

2036
01:10:19,820 --> 01:10:23,040
I'd like to know, BYD I'm impressed with,

2037
01:10:24,660 --> 01:10:27,620
but of course they don't sell even one

2038
01:10:27,620 --> 01:10:30,360
car in this country, so the market possibilities

2039
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:31,560
for them is pretty high.

2040
01:10:31,870 --> 01:10:33,500
I think you have the same question I

2041
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:36,000
have about the charging.

2042
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:37,920
How does this work?

2043
01:10:38,060 --> 01:10:39,740
Well, I'd looked it up.

2044
01:10:40,300 --> 01:10:44,360
It will charge within five minutes with a,

2045
01:10:44,460 --> 01:10:45,900
now they make it sound nice to say,

2046
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,620
a thousand kilowatt charger.

2047
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,800
That's a megawatt.

2048
01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:51,160
You're gonna put a megawatt charger in my

2049
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:51,680
house now?

2050
01:10:52,700 --> 01:10:54,360
No, it's not for, no, the idea, no,

2051
01:10:54,460 --> 01:10:55,560
that's not the idea.

2052
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:56,760
That's what I read.

2053
01:10:57,260 --> 01:10:59,620
No, the idea is that you have gas

2054
01:10:59,620 --> 01:11:03,620
station like facilities that you drive to and

2055
01:11:03,620 --> 01:11:05,900
you stick it just like in a normal

2056
01:11:05,900 --> 01:11:06,620
gas station.

2057
01:11:06,820 --> 01:11:09,280
The big advantage, we don't have, I don't

2058
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,740
keep gas here at the house.

2059
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,700
I go to the gas station and within

2060
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:14,240
five minutes I fill up a tank of

2061
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:14,600
gas.

2062
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:16,580
The idea is that you should be able

2063
01:11:16,580 --> 01:11:17,800
to do the same thing with an electric

2064
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,920
car as opposed to nowadays where you stop

2065
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,260
at one of these charging stations.

2066
01:11:21,620 --> 01:11:23,600
You have to wait a half an hour

2067
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,840
for the car to get even a 300

2068
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,120
mile, even a half charge.

2069
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,420
It takes an hour to two hours sometimes

2070
01:11:30,420 --> 01:11:31,380
to get a full charge.

2071
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,840
No, I understand.

2072
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,840
So they wanna make it so you don't

2073
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,000
have to charge at home.

2074
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,420
I understand, but are you gonna get a

2075
01:11:39,420 --> 01:11:40,980
megawatt at gas stations?

2076
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,320
How is that going to happen?

2077
01:11:45,180 --> 01:11:46,140
One megawatt.

2078
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,120
That's a pretty big jolt.

2079
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,280
I mean, yeah, yes, you're absolutely right.

2080
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,560
But that means you need a whole bunch

2081
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,540
of infrastructure to do what you just explained.

2082
01:11:56,540 --> 01:11:57,200
The infrastructure's not there.

2083
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:58,140
You're right.

2084
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,880
They can't even, in fact, Biden for the

2085
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,200
whole four years, if you recall, right at

2086
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,700
the get-go in 2020 says, we're gonna

2087
01:12:07,700 --> 01:12:11,060
build 300,000 charging stations or some outrageous

2088
01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:11,600
number.

2089
01:12:11,980 --> 01:12:13,540
It was at least 50,000.

2090
01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:14,880
I'm not sure what the number is now

2091
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,500
because I've forgotten, but he was gonna build,

2092
01:12:17,620 --> 01:12:18,420
and he built one.

2093
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,580
So BYD has a deal with Shell in

2094
01:12:24,580 --> 01:12:29,780
Shenzhen and the airport has 258 public fast

2095
01:12:29,780 --> 01:12:30,600
charging ports.

2096
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,840
I don't know if these are the.

2097
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,060
No, they're not.

2098
01:12:34,220 --> 01:12:36,580
No, this five-minute thing is brand new.

2099
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:38,560
There's no way that they're gonna have that

2100
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,740
many online right away.

2101
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:40,780
It's gonna take forever.

2102
01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:44,380
So if it takes a megawatt, you're gonna

2103
01:12:44,380 --> 01:12:46,460
have to have some serious juice going in

2104
01:12:46,460 --> 01:12:46,640
there.

2105
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,380
So they say that, so this is near

2106
01:12:49,380 --> 01:12:51,680
the airport, solar panels installed on the roof

2107
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,820
could generate about 300 kilowatt hours of renewable

2108
01:12:55,820 --> 01:12:58,500
electricity electronically used to charge the vehicles.

2109
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:00,240
I'm skeptical of that too.

2110
01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:02,820
So, I mean, a kilowatt hour.

2111
01:13:03,620 --> 01:13:05,660
Especially in China or around that airport.

2112
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,300
I've been to China enough to know that.

2113
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,200
With all the smog.

2114
01:13:08,660 --> 01:13:09,640
There's no sun.

2115
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:11,580
Exactly.

2116
01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:14,480
So I'm skeptical about this announcement.

2117
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,760
And to get that amount of power, you

2118
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,140
have to have these coal-burning power stations

2119
01:13:22,140 --> 01:13:25,040
making this smog worse.

2120
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:25,500
Yeah.

2121
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,220
Yeah, so I'm very skeptical about all that.

2122
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:30,360
Yeah, I am too.

2123
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,120
I mean, I think they may have the

2124
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,140
technology, but I don't think they have the

2125
01:13:34,140 --> 01:13:34,720
- Well, sure.

2126
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:38,260
I mean, I could make- By the

2127
01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:41,000
way, I'm skeptical about the technology too.

2128
01:13:41,420 --> 01:13:44,720
If I could get a megawatt of power,

2129
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,760
I'd be mining Bitcoin.

2130
01:13:46,580 --> 01:13:47,320
Come on, man.

2131
01:13:47,500 --> 01:13:48,860
I'm not gonna charge my car.

2132
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,640
I'll stay home and print money.

2133
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:52,940
This is a lot of power.

2134
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:56,760
One of the news girls, you'll recognize who

2135
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,500
it is.

2136
01:13:57,620 --> 01:13:59,020
I don't know if it's CBS or the

2137
01:13:59,020 --> 01:13:59,580
NBC girl.

2138
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,600
Talked to Warren Buffett about the tariffs, and

2139
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,780
he had some interesting answers.

2140
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,660
How do you think tariffs will affect the

2141
01:14:05,660 --> 01:14:06,060
economy?

2142
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,720
I mean, tariffs are actually, we've had a

2143
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,200
lot of experience with them.

2144
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,280
They're an act of war to some degree.

2145
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,700
How do you think tariffs will impact inflation?

2146
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,660
Over time, there are attacks on goods.

2147
01:14:18,660 --> 01:14:19,680
I mean, you know.

2148
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:20,700
It's an attack.

2149
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:21,720
What?

2150
01:14:22,420 --> 01:14:23,220
Is that Nora?

2151
01:14:23,660 --> 01:14:24,760
I think it is Nora, yeah.

2152
01:14:25,180 --> 01:14:25,400
Yeah.

2153
01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:28,560
Well, it's a highly edited piece, but she's

2154
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,120
talking about inflation, and he's talking about inflation,

2155
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,600
but he's talking about money printing inflation, as

2156
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:34,500
far as I'm concerned.

2157
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,040
On goods, I mean, you know, it just

2158
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,100
very doesn't pay up.

2159
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:42,680
I mean, you always have to just, and

2160
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:43,160
then what?

2161
01:14:43,260 --> 01:14:44,720
You always have to ask that question in

2162
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,060
economics.

2163
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,200
Always say, and then what?

2164
01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:47,660
So is there an answer for that when

2165
01:14:47,660 --> 01:14:51,180
people say, you know, inflation persists, consumer prices

2166
01:14:51,180 --> 01:14:52,100
keep going up?

2167
01:14:52,340 --> 01:14:53,220
When's the end in sight?

2168
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:55,920
No, prices will be higher 10 years from

2169
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,340
now and 20 years from now and 30

2170
01:14:57,340 --> 01:14:58,000
years from now.

2171
01:14:58,220 --> 01:14:59,520
And what do you think about what's happening

2172
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:00,680
in Washington right now?

2173
01:15:00,820 --> 01:15:02,060
That's because of money printing.

2174
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,980
Of course, it'll be more expensive 10 years

2175
01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:06,280
from now, 20 years from now.

2176
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:07,540
Yeah, always has been.

2177
01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:09,200
Yeah, we also, we used to buy our

2178
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,800
Toyota trucks for $59.99. About efforts to

2179
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:13,680
- I think it's Washington.

2180
01:15:14,180 --> 01:15:14,280
Yeah.

2181
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,180
It's, you know, technology changes things, all kinds

2182
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:20,360
of things, but Washington is Washington.

2183
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,360
And the problem with politics is that you

2184
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,920
tend to have to make tiny compromises as

2185
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,740
you go along.

2186
01:15:28,140 --> 01:15:28,900
There you go.

2187
01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:33,300
So they got him to say prices will

2188
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:34,660
go up, but I don't think he was

2189
01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:36,080
in the same conversation.

2190
01:15:36,780 --> 01:15:37,560
And we'll see.

2191
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,800
We'll see what happens.

2192
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:40,820
I mean, it all comes down to what

2193
01:15:40,820 --> 01:15:41,580
do we want to buy?

2194
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:44,880
You know, he's not taxing avocados.

2195
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,560
No tariffs on that.

2196
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:49,260
Not a car.

2197
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:50,720
Well, when's the last time you bought a

2198
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:50,920
car?

2199
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:53,180
26 years ago?

2200
01:15:55,650 --> 01:15:57,730
I bought a car, when did I buy

2201
01:15:57,730 --> 01:15:58,550
this last car?

2202
01:15:58,670 --> 01:15:59,470
Used, of course.

2203
01:15:59,810 --> 01:16:00,330
Of course.

2204
01:16:00,950 --> 01:16:03,610
Bought it about seven years ago, maybe.

2205
01:16:03,770 --> 01:16:04,790
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

2206
01:16:04,890 --> 01:16:06,950
It's not like, oh, no one will buy

2207
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:07,770
cars anymore.

2208
01:16:10,350 --> 01:16:11,030
We'll see.

2209
01:16:12,210 --> 01:16:15,210
The, in general, though, the economy of certain

2210
01:16:15,210 --> 01:16:16,870
states is pretty bad.

2211
01:16:18,170 --> 01:16:19,850
Really bad in California.

2212
01:16:20,990 --> 01:16:24,130
Now, this was a shocking report, John, shocking.

2213
01:16:24,490 --> 01:16:27,450
Several businesses along the famed Sunset Strip have

2214
01:16:27,450 --> 01:16:28,650
closed in recent months.

2215
01:16:28,810 --> 01:16:30,290
Others are on the verge, and there is

2216
01:16:30,290 --> 01:16:32,590
a community effort underway to save one of

2217
01:16:32,590 --> 01:16:32,750
them.

2218
01:16:33,010 --> 01:16:35,310
KTLA's Annie Rose Ramos, live in West Hollywood,

2219
01:16:35,810 --> 01:16:36,610
with more on that.

2220
01:16:36,730 --> 01:16:37,570
Annie Rose, good morning.

2221
01:16:37,710 --> 01:16:39,070
Hey, guys, good morning to you both.

2222
01:16:39,070 --> 01:16:40,950
Yeah, we keep on hearing about this happening

2223
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:42,190
over and over again.

2224
01:16:42,270 --> 01:16:44,930
We counted a total of five businesses and

2225
01:16:44,930 --> 01:16:47,070
restaurants that have announced their closing just in

2226
01:16:47,070 --> 01:16:48,230
the past two months.

2227
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:50,190
Okay, so she's on the Sunset Strip.

2228
01:16:50,250 --> 01:16:51,150
It's a big story.

2229
01:16:51,490 --> 01:16:52,990
An important restaurant is closing.

2230
01:16:53,210 --> 01:16:54,010
Which one is it?

2231
01:16:54,050 --> 01:16:55,230
You've been up and down the Strip.

2232
01:16:55,310 --> 01:16:56,490
You've been to Le Dome.

2233
01:16:56,670 --> 01:16:58,010
It's not Le Dome, by the way.

2234
01:16:58,350 --> 01:17:00,490
You've been to some of the cool places

2235
01:17:00,490 --> 01:17:01,450
on Sunset Strip.

2236
01:17:01,630 --> 01:17:02,570
Which one is closing?

2237
01:17:04,450 --> 01:17:06,070
Probably someplace I never heard of.

2238
01:17:06,170 --> 01:17:07,170
No, you've heard of this one.

2239
01:17:08,170 --> 01:17:09,930
On the Sunset Strip.

2240
01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:11,830
I've been to this one many times.

2241
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:13,590
I don't know.

2242
01:17:13,970 --> 01:17:16,110
Here on the Sunset Strip, including the restaurant

2243
01:17:16,110 --> 01:17:18,470
you see behind me, beloved Le Petit Four.

2244
01:17:18,670 --> 01:17:19,470
It has been around.

2245
01:17:19,810 --> 01:17:21,930
Le Petit Four, Le Petit Four.

2246
01:17:22,290 --> 01:17:25,510
That's where all the Russians in tracksuits hang

2247
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:25,790
out.

2248
01:17:27,130 --> 01:17:28,430
I've never been there.

2249
01:17:28,570 --> 01:17:29,950
You've never been to Le Petit Four?

2250
01:17:30,190 --> 01:17:30,490
Oh.

2251
01:17:30,650 --> 01:17:30,830
No.

2252
01:17:31,090 --> 01:17:34,370
For over 40 years, and now some community

2253
01:17:34,370 --> 01:17:36,490
members coming together to make a last-ditch

2254
01:17:36,490 --> 01:17:39,150
effort in order to try and save it.

2255
01:17:39,230 --> 01:17:39,910
Take a look here.

2256
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:42,110
They are posting this GoFundMe page.

2257
01:17:42,270 --> 01:17:43,310
Yeah, with $6,000.

2258
01:17:43,690 --> 01:17:45,370
Good luck keeping your restaurant going.

2259
01:17:46,090 --> 01:17:47,670
Especially on that property.

2260
01:17:48,050 --> 01:17:48,270
Yeah.

2261
01:17:48,510 --> 01:17:50,770
But maybe the Strip has just died.

2262
01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:51,830
It probably has.

2263
01:17:54,130 --> 01:17:54,710
Probably has.

2264
01:17:54,730 --> 01:17:56,950
The last time I was down there, it

2265
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:59,410
didn't have the same vibrancy that it used

2266
01:17:59,410 --> 01:17:59,790
to have.

2267
01:17:59,850 --> 01:18:00,410
That's for sure.

2268
01:18:00,510 --> 01:18:01,550
Oh man, when I lived there, it didn't

2269
01:18:01,550 --> 01:18:02,490
have that vibrancy.

2270
01:18:02,530 --> 01:18:03,450
It was already horrible.

2271
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:08,310
Compared to like late 80s, early 90s, when

2272
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:09,870
we go out to LA to film stuff.

2273
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:11,830
No.

2274
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:13,510
It's no good.

2275
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:16,450
Yeah, there's a depressing aspect to LA at

2276
01:18:16,450 --> 01:18:16,890
the moment.

2277
01:18:17,470 --> 01:18:21,690
Like San Francisco, it's depressing because of all

2278
01:18:21,690 --> 01:18:22,170
the homeless.

2279
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:26,090
And it's got nothing to do with the

2280
01:18:26,090 --> 01:18:27,410
California economy.

2281
01:18:27,570 --> 01:18:29,670
It has to do with the policies regarding

2282
01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:34,110
the homeless encampments and the allowance and crime,

2283
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:35,150
a lot of crime.

2284
01:18:35,390 --> 01:18:37,170
Well, but who lives in California?

2285
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:38,890
Just poor people and a bunch of rich

2286
01:18:38,890 --> 01:18:39,230
people.

2287
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:44,630
I'm just guessing.

2288
01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:45,930
Well, there's middle class in California.

2289
01:18:46,190 --> 01:18:47,170
There's a lot of middle class.

2290
01:18:47,170 --> 01:18:49,110
In the valley, in the porn industry.

2291
01:18:52,290 --> 01:18:53,430
Yeah, it's not generalized.

2292
01:18:53,810 --> 01:18:54,050
Okay.

2293
01:18:54,410 --> 01:18:55,350
All right, you've got- Why would we

2294
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:55,630
do that?

2295
01:18:55,730 --> 01:18:57,530
You've got several series here, so I'm going

2296
01:18:57,530 --> 01:18:58,470
to let you choose one.

2297
01:18:59,890 --> 01:19:00,790
Let's see what we got.

2298
01:19:00,950 --> 01:19:02,970
Because unlike you, when you have a series,

2299
01:19:03,090 --> 01:19:04,470
I just step back and let you go.

2300
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:05,670
Yeah, there's some of this.

2301
01:19:05,790 --> 01:19:10,030
Let's do the order on...

2302
01:19:10,030 --> 01:19:11,790
Oh, this is a quickie.

2303
01:19:11,870 --> 01:19:13,810
This is an order on elections that didn't

2304
01:19:13,810 --> 01:19:14,950
get any play at all.

2305
01:19:15,490 --> 01:19:16,890
Oh, I thought it was pretty big.

2306
01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:18,650
Trump on the elections?

2307
01:19:18,830 --> 01:19:21,030
I didn't hear much about it.

2308
01:19:21,210 --> 01:19:23,930
President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that

2309
01:19:23,930 --> 01:19:27,530
aims to make sweeping changes to elections and

2310
01:19:27,530 --> 01:19:32,170
voter registration, including a proof of citizenship requirement.

2311
01:19:32,670 --> 01:19:35,230
Legal experts are calling it an overreach of

2312
01:19:35,230 --> 01:19:38,090
presidential authority and warned that the provisions could

2313
01:19:38,090 --> 01:19:41,210
block tens of millions of eligible Americans from

2314
01:19:41,210 --> 01:19:41,550
voting.

2315
01:19:42,110 --> 01:19:43,810
Joining us now with more is NPR's Jude

2316
01:19:43,810 --> 01:19:44,390
Joffe Block.

2317
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:44,810
Hi, Jude.

2318
01:19:44,930 --> 01:19:45,170
Hello.

2319
01:19:45,470 --> 01:19:45,770
Hello.

2320
01:19:46,030 --> 01:19:46,470
Hello.

2321
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:47,230
Hello.

2322
01:19:47,970 --> 01:19:50,010
Okay, so what exactly is in this-

2323
01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:52,710
Once again, no time or expense spared for

2324
01:19:52,710 --> 01:19:53,450
this program.

2325
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:54,190
Executive order.

2326
01:19:54,370 --> 01:19:55,150
Right, right, right.

2327
01:19:55,210 --> 01:19:56,510
Well, there's a lot in here.

2328
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:58,030
And so it lays out a number of

2329
01:19:58,030 --> 01:20:00,730
new requirements and says if states don't comply,

2330
01:20:00,730 --> 01:20:02,590
they will not get federal funding.

2331
01:20:03,170 --> 01:20:05,070
So one big change is this new proof

2332
01:20:05,070 --> 01:20:07,510
of citizenship requirement to register to vote in

2333
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:08,250
federal elections.

2334
01:20:08,810 --> 01:20:10,650
So you'd need to show a copy of

2335
01:20:10,650 --> 01:20:13,470
a citizenship document, like a passport, to a

2336
01:20:13,470 --> 01:20:15,850
local or state official in order to register

2337
01:20:15,850 --> 01:20:18,670
to vote or whenever you update your registration,

2338
01:20:18,810 --> 01:20:19,630
like if you move.

2339
01:20:20,050 --> 01:20:22,950
Another change, the executive order aims to stop

2340
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:26,230
states from counting mailed ballots that are postmarked

2341
01:20:26,230 --> 01:20:28,110
by election day but arrive after.

2342
01:20:28,590 --> 01:20:29,950
This is something that a lot of states

2343
01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:30,330
allow.

2344
01:20:30,330 --> 01:20:33,910
Wait, legally, can the president make all of

2345
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:36,110
these changes simply by executive order?

2346
01:20:36,410 --> 01:20:37,970
Well, that's really the key question.

2347
01:20:38,150 --> 01:20:39,910
So Trump is trying to assert that he,

2348
01:20:40,050 --> 01:20:42,890
as president, has authority over elections, and that's

2349
01:20:42,890 --> 01:20:43,890
not been the case.

2350
01:20:44,290 --> 01:20:46,670
We have a decentralized system where states make

2351
01:20:46,670 --> 01:20:48,370
a lot of their own election rules.

2352
01:20:48,630 --> 01:20:51,390
This order seeks to expand the president's power

2353
01:20:51,390 --> 01:20:53,070
and test how far it can go.

2354
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:54,830
Yeah, I don't think he's gonna get that

2355
01:20:54,830 --> 01:20:55,090
through.

2356
01:20:55,210 --> 01:20:56,830
I like it, but I don't think that's

2357
01:20:56,830 --> 01:20:57,270
gonna happen.

2358
01:20:57,550 --> 01:20:58,130
I agree.

2359
01:20:58,350 --> 01:20:59,250
Not gonna happen.

2360
01:20:59,250 --> 01:21:02,470
I did learn that in Title 18 of

2361
01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:06,790
the U.S. Code, that if you vote

2362
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:10,150
in a general election as a non-resident

2363
01:21:10,150 --> 01:21:14,530
and non-citizen, I should say, and you're

2364
01:21:14,530 --> 01:21:19,710
caught, you will not be prosecuted as long

2365
01:21:19,710 --> 01:21:22,350
as you believed you were a citizen, which

2366
01:21:22,350 --> 01:21:23,870
is very interesting.

2367
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:25,210
I don't- Well, that's interesting.

2368
01:21:25,330 --> 01:21:27,050
I don't think that's in this report, it

2369
01:21:27,050 --> 01:21:27,410
should be.

2370
01:21:27,490 --> 01:21:29,010
No, I don't know when that snuck in,

2371
01:21:29,010 --> 01:21:30,470
but that is like, oh, okay.

2372
01:21:31,070 --> 01:21:32,410
So you can do it if you get

2373
01:21:32,410 --> 01:21:33,750
caught, oh, well, no problem.

2374
01:21:33,950 --> 01:21:35,450
I thought I was a citizen, huh?

2375
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:36,030
What?

2376
01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:38,150
We've already heard from voting rights advocates that

2377
01:21:38,150 --> 01:21:40,970
lawsuits are going to challenge this, and normally,

2378
01:21:41,250 --> 01:21:43,290
an overhaul like this would be something for

2379
01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:46,010
Congress to take on, and in fact, Republicans

2380
01:21:46,010 --> 01:21:48,210
have been backing a bill called the SAVE

2381
01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:50,070
Act that includes a lot of the same

2382
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:51,570
provisions as this order.

2383
01:21:51,730 --> 01:21:53,470
Oh, man, that thing's been around for years,

2384
01:21:53,570 --> 01:21:54,170
the SAVE Act.

2385
01:21:54,230 --> 01:21:55,010
That's not new.

2386
01:21:55,070 --> 01:21:55,950
It goes nowhere.

2387
01:21:56,090 --> 01:21:56,470
Oh, no.

2388
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:59,150
That bill likely faces an uphill battle in

2389
01:21:59,150 --> 01:22:01,610
the Senate, so instead, some critics are saying

2390
01:22:01,610 --> 01:22:04,990
Trump is forcing through that legislation by executive

2391
01:22:04,990 --> 01:22:05,450
fiat.

2392
01:22:05,770 --> 01:22:09,230
Well, what has President Trump said about why

2393
01:22:09,230 --> 01:22:10,670
he's pushing these changes?

2394
01:22:11,370 --> 01:22:13,970
Well, he says it's necessary for election integrity.

2395
01:22:14,330 --> 01:22:15,990
Here he is yesterday when he signed the

2396
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:16,270
order.

2397
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:18,010
We gotta straighten out our election.

2398
01:22:18,250 --> 01:22:20,370
This country is so sick because of the

2399
01:22:20,370 --> 01:22:22,770
election, the fake elections and the bad elections.

2400
01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:25,030
You know, of course, Trump touts the results

2401
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:27,190
of the last election, which he won, but

2402
01:22:27,190 --> 01:22:28,910
it's long been part of his brand to

2403
01:22:28,910 --> 01:22:31,250
make false claims, false claims about voter fraud,

2404
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:33,530
most notably when he denied the results of

2405
01:22:33,530 --> 01:22:36,070
the 2020 election, and in the lead-up

2406
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:38,170
to this past election, he and his allies

2407
01:22:38,170 --> 01:22:40,830
made baseless, baseless claims about the threat of

2408
01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:43,710
noncitizens voting in large numbers, which we know

2409
01:22:43,710 --> 01:22:45,830
from audits and studies that such cases are

2410
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:48,470
really rare, yet that's what they're targeting here.

2411
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:49,870
Yeah, okay, well, I'm curious.

2412
01:22:49,970 --> 01:22:52,430
How are voting experts reacting to this order?

2413
01:22:52,670 --> 01:22:53,950
You know, I just had an idea.

2414
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:57,610
Exit strategy does require work, but we could

2415
01:22:57,610 --> 01:22:58,730
get people to help us.

2416
01:22:59,290 --> 01:23:03,650
We could just do NPR Remixed, and it's

2417
01:23:03,650 --> 01:23:05,170
just doing exactly what you do.

2418
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:08,370
All those strange things they put in there,

2419
01:23:08,510 --> 01:23:11,050
all of the little NLP tricks, all the

2420
01:23:11,050 --> 01:23:13,930
hyperforas, all that stuff could just be NPR

2421
01:23:13,930 --> 01:23:15,890
Remixed, and it would be a popular stream.

2422
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:17,690
You know, put it to some music.

2423
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:18,790
It wouldn't get a couple of our end

2424
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:20,370
-of-show mixers to put a beat under

2425
01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:20,570
it.

2426
01:23:23,020 --> 01:23:23,920
Yeah, it would be.

2427
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,100
I'm sure NPR would take offense, and we'd

2428
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:32,760
get a cease and desist for, well, copyright.

2429
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,200
For what?

2430
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,420
For you, for you, for you.

2431
01:23:35,540 --> 01:23:37,380
Well, you know, I think there's an argument

2432
01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:39,320
that could be made that you could say

2433
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,780
it was for entertainment humor purposes.

2434
01:23:42,060 --> 01:23:46,320
Yes, parody, parody under, what's it called?

2435
01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:48,560
I don't know, fair use?

2436
01:23:48,740 --> 01:23:50,860
Fair use, yes, parody under fair use.

2437
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,000
Totally appropriate.

2438
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,280
Yeah, well, until then, I'm doing these.

2439
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,700
Well, I spoke with UCLA law professor Rick

2440
01:23:57,700 --> 01:23:59,600
Hasen, and he brought up how very rare

2441
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,620
these cases of non-citizen voting are, but

2442
01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:04,100
that a proof-of-citizenship requirement would have

2443
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:06,740
a big impact and could disenfranchise millions of

2444
01:24:06,740 --> 01:24:07,060
voters.

2445
01:24:07,660 --> 01:24:11,120
So you'd be using a very strict rule

2446
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,800
to prevent a very small amount of fraud.

2447
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,980
The intention seems likely to be to suppress

2448
01:24:18,980 --> 01:24:20,900
the vote rather than to try to make

2449
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:23,800
our elections filled with greater integrity.

2450
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:24,400
Of course.

2451
01:24:24,660 --> 01:24:26,380
And, you know, people are already asked on

2452
01:24:26,380 --> 01:24:29,120
voter registration forms to attest under penalty of

2453
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,200
perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote,

2454
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,600
and they can face prison or deportation if

2455
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:34,680
they try to vote illegally.

2456
01:24:35,180 --> 01:24:36,100
Okay, say more.

2457
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,300
No, that's not true.

2458
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:41,220
Unless, if they believe they were citizens, then

2459
01:24:41,220 --> 01:24:42,040
there's no problem.

2460
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:42,560
Prison or deportation.

2461
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,200
Yes, in fact, that should have been in

2462
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:44,820
the report.

2463
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:45,760
In the report, should have been right in

2464
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:45,880
there.

2465
01:24:45,900 --> 01:24:46,500
But it wasn't.

2466
01:24:46,700 --> 01:24:47,100
Incorrect.

2467
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,080
And, you know, people are already asked on

2468
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,860
voter registration forms to attest under penalty of

2469
01:24:51,860 --> 01:24:53,940
perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote,

2470
01:24:53,980 --> 01:24:56,340
and they can face prison or deportation if

2471
01:24:56,340 --> 01:24:57,440
they try to vote illegally.

2472
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,680
Okay, say more about how Rick Hasen told

2473
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,500
you if this order stands, millions of voters

2474
01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:04,560
could be disenfranchised.

2475
01:25:04,660 --> 01:25:06,300
Like, how would that happen exactly?

2476
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,820
Right, well, past studies have found that almost

2477
01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:11,520
one in 10 Americans doesn't have a proof

2478
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,060
of citizenship document or doesn't have easy access

2479
01:25:14,060 --> 01:25:14,600
to one.

2480
01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:16,280
And this order is also a bit vague

2481
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,560
about even which documents would be accepted as

2482
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:19,420
proof of citizenship.

2483
01:25:19,620 --> 01:25:22,020
It doesn't explicitly name birth certificates.

2484
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,140
It does name passports, but only about half

2485
01:25:25,140 --> 01:25:26,280
of Americans have those.

2486
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:28,040
They cost money and take a while to

2487
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:28,280
get.

2488
01:25:28,660 --> 01:25:31,440
So this rule would likely upend voter registration

2489
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:34,020
drives as well and other ways that Americans

2490
01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:35,500
are used to signing up to vote.

2491
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:37,080
This would really be a sea change.

2492
01:25:38,020 --> 01:25:40,780
Did I just hear an iPhone go?

2493
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,800
Was that on the clip or was that

2494
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,080
you?

2495
01:25:43,540 --> 01:25:44,060
It wasn't me.

2496
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:44,960
I don't have an iPhone.

2497
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,020
It would upend voter registration drives as well

2498
01:25:48,020 --> 01:25:50,100
and other ways that Americans are used to

2499
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:50,920
signing up to vote.

2500
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,400
This would really be a sea change.

2501
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,060
I was gonna say, like, wait a minute,

2502
01:25:54,740 --> 01:25:55,760
John has an iPhone.

2503
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:56,660
No.

2504
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,000
So annoying that NPR, they just never have

2505
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,620
anyone on from the other side.

2506
01:26:04,820 --> 01:26:06,860
They are just, oh, this is no good.

2507
01:26:06,940 --> 01:26:07,900
Oh, this is bad.

2508
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:09,300
Oh, he's not gonna make it through the

2509
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:09,840
court.

2510
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:11,780
PBS is worse.

2511
01:26:12,140 --> 01:26:12,820
Never, never.

2512
01:26:12,820 --> 01:26:13,920
They have one side.

2513
01:26:14,020 --> 01:26:15,840
They was brought up during the congressional hearings

2514
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,200
and I'm surprised you didn't have that clip

2515
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,700
where they asked this Maher woman, you realize

2516
01:26:21,700 --> 01:26:23,760
that they challenged the reporters.

2517
01:26:23,980 --> 01:26:26,040
You had 87 reporters.

2518
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:27,380
They're all registered Democrats.

2519
01:26:27,500 --> 01:26:29,280
There's not one Republican that works in the

2520
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:29,820
newsroom.

2521
01:26:30,260 --> 01:26:31,380
87%, wasn't it?

2522
01:26:31,460 --> 01:26:31,820
That was 80?

2523
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,640
No, it was a total number.

2524
01:26:33,860 --> 01:26:33,980
Yeah.

2525
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:35,220
87 to nothing.

2526
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,660
Thanks for saying you're surprised.

2527
01:26:37,300 --> 01:26:38,680
You should email me with that.

2528
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,320
I'm surprised you didn't get that clip.

2529
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,380
I'm surprised you didn't get that clip because

2530
01:26:45,380 --> 01:26:47,740
that was, I thought was a key element.

2531
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:48,960
Oh, it was a surprise.

2532
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,740
Big surprise, no Republicans at NPR, huh?

2533
01:26:55,820 --> 01:26:56,500
I know.

2534
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:59,640
And she was like, whoa, that's interesting.

2535
01:26:59,740 --> 01:27:01,360
And she acted like she didn't know.

2536
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,680
That was the funny part about it.

2537
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:04,660
What, what?

2538
01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:05,700
Gambling?

2539
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,040
I can't believe that.

2540
01:27:08,900 --> 01:27:09,780
She's a spook.

2541
01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:13,700
Okay, I want to, I have a couple

2542
01:27:13,700 --> 01:27:15,320
of clips here.

2543
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:16,980
That means the series don't go to the

2544
01:27:16,980 --> 01:27:17,220
end.

2545
01:27:19,460 --> 01:27:21,960
You used the word splash earlier.

2546
01:27:22,740 --> 01:27:23,560
I can't remember.

2547
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:23,780
I did?

2548
01:27:23,980 --> 01:27:25,980
Yeah, you said make a splash or something.

2549
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:28,280
Well, I think it had to do with

2550
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,060
Trump's approach.

2551
01:27:30,860 --> 01:27:31,940
Yeah, maybe.

2552
01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:34,700
Yeah, well, because this is a word that

2553
01:27:34,700 --> 01:27:36,960
we heard about a week ago and it's

2554
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,580
back and you could say splash or you

2555
01:27:39,580 --> 01:27:40,440
could say splash.

2556
01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:45,080
For the Hague Summit, what I hope coming

2557
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:46,240
out of the Hague Summit is that it

2558
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:47,400
will really be a splash.

2559
01:27:47,660 --> 01:27:49,180
A splash, a big splash.

2560
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:50,580
This is the splash.

2561
01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:51,580
This is Mark Rutte.

2562
01:27:51,940 --> 01:27:54,420
He is the head of the NATO and

2563
01:27:54,420 --> 01:27:56,340
he is, this is the big Hague Summit

2564
01:27:56,340 --> 01:27:58,200
which he wants to be a splash.

2565
01:27:59,300 --> 01:28:02,640
Projecting the collective NATO power and therefore also

2566
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,760
American power on the world stage.

2567
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,900
Yes, he's working for us still.

2568
01:28:07,140 --> 01:28:09,920
Of course, defending the Euro-Atlantic but I

2569
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,980
would even say the world stage because it's

2570
01:28:12,980 --> 01:28:15,180
not extending Article 5 to the Indo-Pacific

2571
01:28:15,180 --> 01:28:17,960
but working together as NATO also to make

2572
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,800
sure that we keep the Indo-Pacific safe

2573
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:21,840
and that means spending more.

2574
01:28:22,180 --> 01:28:23,880
It means producing more.

2575
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:24,800
Wait, stop.

2576
01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:28,120
What does NATO stand for?

2577
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,500
North American Treaty.

2578
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:31,320
North Atlantic.

2579
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,860
North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

2580
01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:35,120
What's that got to do with the Indo

2581
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,240
-Pacific?

2582
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,740
North Atlantic is a very specific area.

2583
01:28:38,740 --> 01:28:40,180
It does not make a difference.

2584
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,900
It's the Atlantic Ocean, the northern part.

2585
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,060
You can make a splash in any ocean.

2586
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,720
So it does not matter where the splash

2587
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,760
is as long as it's a splash and

2588
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,040
it shows American power.

2589
01:28:52,540 --> 01:28:53,720
And that means spending more.

2590
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:55,820
It means producing more.

2591
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,360
Spending more on war stuff.

2592
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,140
It means a fair distribution between the US

2593
01:29:02,140 --> 01:29:03,740
and other NATO allies.

2594
01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:05,080
Yes, it's fair.

2595
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:06,340
We need, you're not fair.

2596
01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:07,620
You're not fair, Europe.

2597
01:29:07,620 --> 01:29:10,360
And as I said, it will be about

2598
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:11,560
the lethality.

2599
01:29:11,900 --> 01:29:12,620
Lethality of NATO.

2600
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:13,440
Lethality!

2601
01:29:13,740 --> 01:29:15,520
Yo, where we kill you with this stuff,

2602
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:15,860
man.

2603
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,520
NATO kill you, lethality.

2604
01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:20,340
And as I said, it will be about

2605
01:29:20,340 --> 01:29:21,580
the lethality.

2606
01:29:21,820 --> 01:29:24,340
Lethality of NATO showing that, yes, we will

2607
01:29:24,340 --> 01:29:25,960
never be an offensive organization.

2608
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,380
We are a defensive organization.

2609
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:28,200
Bullshit.

2610
01:29:28,440 --> 01:29:29,240
We are defensive.

2611
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:31,000
We're not making any troubles.

2612
01:29:31,300 --> 01:29:32,820
Tell that to the Libyans.

2613
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,060
We're not making trouble.

2614
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,980
But don't dare to attack us.

2615
01:29:35,980 --> 01:29:37,360
You see why they attacked Libya?

2616
01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:40,980
Why do you ask these questions every time

2617
01:29:40,980 --> 01:29:42,800
he's saying that we're defensive?

2618
01:29:43,140 --> 01:29:44,500
Just shut up.

2619
01:29:44,740 --> 01:29:45,140
Lethality.

2620
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,920
Lethality of NATO showing that, yes, we will

2621
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,500
never be an offensive organization.

2622
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,520
We are a defensive organization, but don't dare

2623
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:53,320
to attack us.

2624
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,420
Don't you dare to attack us.

2625
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,220
Because you will not see the light of

2626
01:29:57,220 --> 01:29:57,720
day again.

2627
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,400
And I hope that will be.

2628
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,580
This guy is the biggest warmonger in the

2629
01:30:03,580 --> 01:30:04,200
universe.

2630
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,040
Don't you dare attack us.

2631
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,080
The real outcome of the Hague summit, a

2632
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:09,420
splash.

2633
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:10,060
A splash.

2634
01:30:10,260 --> 01:30:14,860
Showing that reinvigorated alliance standing together.

2635
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,980
One for all, all for one.

2636
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:19,340
We are the three musketeers.

2637
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,760
One for all, all for one.

2638
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,140
But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,

2639
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,300
don't.

2640
01:30:25,700 --> 01:30:27,660
This is not, we're not doing this because

2641
01:30:27,660 --> 01:30:28,720
USA wants it.

2642
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:30,900
This is not about USA.

2643
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,920
Except you don't want to cross USA.

2644
01:30:34,340 --> 01:30:36,340
First of all, by understanding that we do

2645
01:30:36,340 --> 01:30:38,380
not do this because the Americans want us

2646
01:30:38,380 --> 01:30:39,680
to do it, but because we need to

2647
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,180
do it because of Russia.

2648
01:30:41,700 --> 01:30:43,300
We don't do it because the Americans.

2649
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:44,100
The Americans.

2650
01:30:44,660 --> 01:30:47,380
Remember, I will change my story at the

2651
01:30:47,380 --> 01:30:49,140
end of this clip, but it's not because

2652
01:30:49,140 --> 01:30:50,100
Americans want it.

2653
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:50,620
And the threat.

2654
01:30:51,740 --> 01:30:53,620
By the way, by spending more, you will

2655
01:30:53,620 --> 01:30:56,940
also have a fairer burden sharing with the

2656
01:30:56,940 --> 01:30:59,780
US because the US rightly is irritated about

2657
01:30:59,780 --> 01:31:02,640
the fact that in Europe, we have collected

2658
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,420
the peace dividend.

2659
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:05,860
And I myself as prime minister was part

2660
01:31:05,860 --> 01:31:06,200
of that.

2661
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:07,760
And that was wrong.

2662
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,860
Luckily, the Netherlands is now spending over 2%.

2663
01:31:10,860 --> 01:31:11,340
Luckily.

2664
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,920
But collectively, we have collected the peace dividend.

2665
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,600
This was not, and rightly the US is

2666
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:17,860
irritated.

2667
01:31:18,020 --> 01:31:19,580
So by spending more because of the Russian

2668
01:31:19,580 --> 01:31:22,660
threat, the effect of that is also that

2669
01:31:22,660 --> 01:31:24,900
you have a fairish burden sharing with the

2670
01:31:24,900 --> 01:31:25,460
United States.

2671
01:31:25,540 --> 01:31:27,800
But it's not, it's not because America wants

2672
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:28,080
this.

2673
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,860
Just so you know, it's not about that.

2674
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,080
And there are a few countries not yet

2675
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:33,740
at 2%.

2676
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,760
I would love to say that since I

2677
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,240
came in on the 1st of October, things

2678
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,060
started to change.

2679
01:31:38,620 --> 01:31:39,300
That was not true.

2680
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,520
But there happened something on the 20th of

2681
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:43,560
January in the US.

2682
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:45,900
And since then, look what's happened.

2683
01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:46,720
It's amazing.

2684
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,900
It's not about America, what America wants for

2685
01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:51,940
Trump, who became president on January 20th, but

2686
01:31:51,940 --> 01:31:52,540
it's amazing.

2687
01:31:52,700 --> 01:31:54,580
The Belgians have been saying, we want to

2688
01:31:54,580 --> 01:31:55,840
get to 2% by the summer.

2689
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:57,840
Spain now is saying they want to get

2690
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:58,940
to 2% this summer.

2691
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,600
We know that Portugal, Italy, they all have

2692
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:02,380
these debates now.

2693
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,360
And I tell them that, well, now I

2694
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,800
am calling you to ask you to deliver

2695
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,440
the 2% by the summer so that

2696
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:12,380
collectively we can move considerably north of the

2697
01:32:12,380 --> 01:32:13,960
2% because we have to spend much,

2698
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,140
much more than 2%.

2699
01:32:15,140 --> 01:32:17,520
But this is not about America.

2700
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,500
This is not because America wants it.

2701
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,980
But now I'm calling you, but you might

2702
01:32:21,980 --> 01:32:27,300
get a very patient man from Washington on

2703
01:32:27,300 --> 01:32:28,840
the line if you don't listen to me.

2704
01:32:29,820 --> 01:32:31,560
And I would love to listen to those

2705
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,880
phone calls, but let's hope they're not necessary.

2706
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,500
At this moment, I must say that all

2707
01:32:36,500 --> 01:32:39,960
these non-2%ers are having genuine debates

2708
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,560
to move to the 2% before summer.

2709
01:32:41,860 --> 01:32:44,340
So all the non-2%ers, it's not

2710
01:32:44,340 --> 01:32:46,540
about America, but if you don't step up,

2711
01:32:47,380 --> 01:32:49,040
you might get a call from Washington and

2712
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,180
you don't want to get that call.

2713
01:32:50,180 --> 01:32:52,220
That's exactly what he said.

2714
01:32:52,820 --> 01:32:53,960
That's exactly what he said.

2715
01:32:54,140 --> 01:32:57,540
And so now we have to make sure

2716
01:32:57,540 --> 01:33:01,980
that we all understand that this is long

2717
01:33:01,980 --> 01:33:02,300
-term.

2718
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,040
This is not just a Ukraine issue.

2719
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,060
We are never, ever, I don't care what

2720
01:33:09,060 --> 01:33:11,740
kind of peace deal is made, it's never

2721
01:33:11,740 --> 01:33:12,260
gonna end.

2722
01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:14,680
It's the result of 12 hours of behind

2723
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:15,820
closed doors talk.

2724
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,020
Oh, I'm sorry, wrong one.

2725
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:19,620
Here it is, this is the one.

2726
01:33:19,620 --> 01:33:22,240
Well, there will be no normalization of relations

2727
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,620
with Russia when the war is over.

2728
01:33:23,820 --> 01:33:24,520
That will not happen.

2729
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,100
That will take decades because there is a

2730
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:29,980
total lack of confidence.

2731
01:33:30,380 --> 01:33:31,320
The threat is still there.

2732
01:33:31,340 --> 01:33:33,040
As I said in my speech, even if

2733
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,300
the war comes to a conclusion, the Russian

2734
01:33:35,300 --> 01:33:36,380
threat is still there.

2735
01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:39,240
They are building a war economy.

2736
01:33:39,420 --> 01:33:41,940
They are spending so much money on defense.

2737
01:33:42,380 --> 01:33:43,200
It's a war economy.

2738
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,740
They are producing in three months an ammunition

2739
01:33:45,740 --> 01:33:47,780
what the whole of the alliance is producing

2740
01:33:47,780 --> 01:33:48,340
in a year.

2741
01:33:48,340 --> 01:33:50,860
We are ramping up our ammunition production.

2742
01:33:51,020 --> 01:33:51,820
Luckily, we have to.

2743
01:33:51,820 --> 01:33:52,380
This is bulk.

2744
01:33:52,580 --> 01:33:53,380
Ramping it up.

2745
01:33:53,620 --> 01:33:56,900
So there's no way that we can normalize

2746
01:33:56,900 --> 01:33:59,140
relations with Russia after the war is over.

2747
01:33:59,620 --> 01:34:02,300
I hope in many decades from now and

2748
01:34:02,300 --> 01:34:05,220
post-Putin that there might be some, but

2749
01:34:05,220 --> 01:34:06,900
I mean, I'm not optimistic.

2750
01:34:07,460 --> 01:34:12,340
Post-Putin, this is the most outrageous thing

2751
01:34:12,340 --> 01:34:13,020
you can say.

2752
01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:15,980
Well, even if we have a total truce

2753
01:34:15,980 --> 01:34:19,320
there in Ukraine, nothing's gonna normalize with Russia.

2754
01:34:19,860 --> 01:34:20,140
Ever.

2755
01:34:20,540 --> 01:34:23,860
Until, no, post-Putin, post-Putin, post-Putin.

2756
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,000
And guess what Zelensky said?

2757
01:34:27,420 --> 01:34:30,260
Ukrainian President Zelensky has claimed that his Russian

2758
01:34:30,260 --> 01:34:32,760
counterpart Putin will die soon.

2759
01:34:33,220 --> 01:34:36,040
The remarks came amid widespread speculation about the

2760
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:37,200
Russian president's health.

2761
01:34:37,700 --> 01:34:40,620
Russia has strongly rejected all speculations and maintained

2762
01:34:40,620 --> 01:34:43,220
the Russian leader is fully fit.

2763
01:34:43,460 --> 01:34:46,660
The Ukrainian leader made the bold claim while

2764
01:34:46,660 --> 01:34:49,360
speaking to French journalists in a televised interview

2765
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,020
after meeting French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris.

2766
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,340
Zelensky said Putin hopes to remain in power

2767
01:34:56,340 --> 01:34:59,020
until his death and his ambitions are not

2768
01:34:59,020 --> 01:35:00,760
limited to Ukraine.

2769
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,300
He added that the Russian leader's death would

2770
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:05,760
bring an end to the war between the

2771
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:06,260
two nations.

2772
01:35:06,620 --> 01:35:09,980
There have been continued speculations over Putin's deteriorating

2773
01:35:09,980 --> 01:35:10,300
health.

2774
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,840
Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with

2775
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,380
puffy face and making jerky movements.

2776
01:35:15,700 --> 01:35:17,820
He got puffy face and making jerky.

2777
01:35:18,420 --> 01:35:19,280
He's gonna die.

2778
01:35:19,380 --> 01:35:20,360
He's got puffy face.

2779
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,940
Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with

2780
01:35:22,940 --> 01:35:26,160
puffy face and making jerky movements with his

2781
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:26,300
limbs.

2782
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,960
Some videos also showed Putin coughing continuously.

2783
01:35:30,460 --> 01:35:32,740
Just last week, reports suggested that Putin suffered

2784
01:35:32,740 --> 01:35:35,960
a mini stroke with video showing his legs

2785
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,400
shaking uncontrollably.

2786
01:35:37,740 --> 01:35:40,320
This was during a conference and interview and

2787
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:41,540
other times.

2788
01:35:42,340 --> 01:35:42,620
So.

2789
01:35:44,540 --> 01:35:47,920
And if a dipshit report was that.

2790
01:35:48,180 --> 01:35:48,840
Well, it's.

2791
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,460
And he has restless leg syndrome, I guess.

2792
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,660
So he said it in Ukrainian and all

2793
01:35:54,660 --> 01:35:55,120
the clips.

2794
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:59,080
France 24, France Vincatra, does not have any

2795
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:00,880
report of this even though he said it

2796
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:01,700
in France.

2797
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,860
So I found that to be somewhat odd.

2798
01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:07,120
But all the reports had, the mix was

2799
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:07,640
no good.

2800
01:36:07,820 --> 01:36:10,280
It was Zelensky speaking in Ukrainian and the

2801
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,540
English translation is equally loud, is very hard

2802
01:36:13,540 --> 01:36:14,100
to understand.

2803
01:36:14,220 --> 01:36:16,000
But he says, that's what he says.

2804
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,660
Oh, Putin's gonna die soon anyway.

2805
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:19,340
And then it will all end.

2806
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,040
Which is, in my mind, a veiled threat.

2807
01:36:23,820 --> 01:36:25,220
Oh, he's gonna die, don't worry.

2808
01:36:25,300 --> 01:36:27,140
And if he dies, no matter how he

2809
01:36:27,140 --> 01:36:29,180
dies, then it's all gonna be over.

2810
01:36:31,630 --> 01:36:32,470
How does that work?

2811
01:36:33,210 --> 01:36:35,010
Well, because it's the same thing.

2812
01:36:35,090 --> 01:36:36,670
That's why they wanted regime change.

2813
01:36:36,710 --> 01:36:39,090
That's why the CIA said, hey, if you're

2814
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:40,670
living in Russia and you want to become

2815
01:36:40,670 --> 01:36:41,930
a spook, let us know.

2816
01:36:42,130 --> 01:36:43,830
Here's our email address.

2817
01:36:45,110 --> 01:36:47,510
Yeah, they've always, it's only a Putin.

2818
01:36:47,810 --> 01:36:51,050
You never hear the Russian citizens are no

2819
01:36:51,050 --> 01:36:51,410
good.

2820
01:36:51,770 --> 01:36:52,690
Never hear that.

2821
01:36:53,070 --> 01:36:55,210
It's only Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin,

2822
01:36:55,390 --> 01:36:57,810
Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.

2823
01:36:58,470 --> 01:37:00,690
It's the only baddie they have is Putin.

2824
01:37:01,510 --> 01:37:04,050
And now, oh, the unthinkable has happened.

2825
01:37:04,410 --> 01:37:07,310
We seem to be making headway with a

2826
01:37:07,310 --> 01:37:07,910
peace deal.

2827
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:08,530
Oh, no.

2828
01:37:08,530 --> 01:37:11,070
It's the result of 12 hours of behind

2829
01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:14,030
closed doors talks in a series of meetings

2830
01:37:14,030 --> 01:37:15,750
over three days in Riyadh.

2831
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:18,850
Two statements from the White House outlining separate

2832
01:37:18,850 --> 01:37:21,850
agreements with Ukraine and Russia to ensure safe

2833
01:37:21,850 --> 01:37:24,430
navigation in the Black Sea and to implement

2834
01:37:24,430 --> 01:37:26,450
a ban on attacks by the two countries

2835
01:37:26,450 --> 01:37:28,170
on each other's energy facilities.

2836
01:37:28,650 --> 01:37:31,470
Both sides agreed that third parties could oversee

2837
01:37:31,470 --> 01:37:32,110
the truce.

2838
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:35,150
Separately, the United States also agreed that it

2839
01:37:35,150 --> 01:37:37,370
would help restore Russia's access to the world

2840
01:37:37,370 --> 01:37:41,450
market for agricultural and fertilizer exports, an incentive

2841
01:37:41,450 --> 01:37:43,970
to Moscow blasted by Volodymyr Zelensky.

2842
01:37:44,430 --> 01:37:46,790
We believe that this is a weakening of

2843
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:49,250
the position and a weakening of sanctions in

2844
01:37:49,250 --> 01:37:49,710
our opinion.

2845
01:37:50,190 --> 01:37:51,930
We do not yet know the details of

2846
01:37:51,930 --> 01:37:54,130
this item and we were not present at

2847
01:37:54,130 --> 01:37:56,410
this meeting, but this was not on our

2848
01:37:56,410 --> 01:37:56,750
agenda.

2849
01:37:57,210 --> 01:37:59,670
Nonetheless, Kyiv said it would uphold its end

2850
01:37:59,670 --> 01:38:02,010
of the agreement while calling for more talks

2851
01:38:02,010 --> 01:38:03,270
to settle the details.

2852
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:05,870
The Kremlin, meanwhile, declared that the agreement could

2853
01:38:05,870 --> 01:38:08,310
only come into force after the lifting of

2854
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:10,490
restrictions on its agricultural exports.

2855
01:38:10,970 --> 01:38:13,970
Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow

2856
01:38:13,970 --> 01:38:16,690
didn't trust the Ukrainian president to uphold a

2857
01:38:16,690 --> 01:38:17,190
ceasefire.

2858
01:38:17,530 --> 01:38:18,710
We need clear guarantees.

2859
01:38:19,230 --> 01:38:21,370
These guarantees can only be the result of

2860
01:38:21,370 --> 01:38:23,530
an order by Washington to Zelensky.

2861
01:38:23,710 --> 01:38:26,550
The limited truce on energy and sea came

2862
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:29,450
about after Vladimir Putin responded to the originally

2863
01:38:29,450 --> 01:38:32,650
proposed full 30-day ceasefire with a long

2864
01:38:32,650 --> 01:38:33,530
list of conditions.

2865
01:38:34,030 --> 01:38:36,010
The White House said Tuesday it would continue

2866
01:38:36,010 --> 01:38:38,830
facilitating talks on both sides in a bid

2867
01:38:38,830 --> 01:38:40,690
towards achieving a sustainable peace.

2868
01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:43,790
Not quite the end the war in 24

2869
01:38:43,790 --> 01:38:45,190
hours that we were promised.

2870
01:38:45,570 --> 01:38:46,770
I'm sorry, that was...

2871
01:38:48,690 --> 01:38:49,250
Sarcastic.

2872
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:51,710
Sarcastic, it was being sarcastic.

2873
01:38:52,090 --> 01:38:54,110
So they're starting very, very slowly.

2874
01:38:55,470 --> 01:38:58,010
We need to make peace profitable again.

2875
01:38:58,090 --> 01:38:58,890
I don't know how to do it.

2876
01:38:59,350 --> 01:39:00,810
Let's bring these clips in.

2877
01:39:00,890 --> 01:39:03,130
This is Trump versus the EU on NPR.

2878
01:39:03,130 --> 01:39:05,610
As we've reported before on this show, US

2879
01:39:05,610 --> 01:39:08,250
administrations, at least as far back as George

2880
01:39:08,250 --> 01:39:08,650
W.

2881
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:11,670
Bush's, have been pushing European nations to increase

2882
01:39:11,670 --> 01:39:12,610
their defense spending.

2883
01:39:12,990 --> 01:39:15,810
But throughout, the US has remained committed to

2884
01:39:15,810 --> 01:39:19,010
the principle of NATO's Article 5, which says

2885
01:39:19,010 --> 01:39:21,550
that an attack against one ally is considered

2886
01:39:21,550 --> 01:39:23,650
as an attack against all allies.

2887
01:39:24,090 --> 01:39:27,390
That commitment appears to have ended with President

2888
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:27,650
Trump.

2889
01:39:28,010 --> 01:39:29,730
I think it's common sense, right?

2890
01:39:30,030 --> 01:39:31,470
If they don't pay, I'm not going to

2891
01:39:31,470 --> 01:39:32,010
defend them.

2892
01:39:32,010 --> 01:39:33,210
No, I'm not going to defend them.

2893
01:39:34,890 --> 01:39:36,130
It's common sense.

2894
01:39:36,590 --> 01:39:38,270
You don't pay, we don't defend you.

2895
01:39:39,310 --> 01:39:41,350
NATO schmato is no good.

2896
01:39:42,750 --> 01:39:44,450
Yeah, they go on with this one.

2897
01:39:44,970 --> 01:39:46,670
Now, for the record, Article 5 of NATO

2898
01:39:46,670 --> 01:39:48,590
has only ever been invoked once.

2899
01:39:48,990 --> 01:39:50,790
And it was by the United States.

2900
01:39:51,070 --> 01:39:54,010
Bronislav Slonchev teaches military and war studies at

2901
01:39:54,010 --> 01:39:55,670
the University of California, San Diego.

2902
01:39:56,210 --> 01:39:58,290
When Article 5 was invoked after 9-11,

2903
01:39:58,430 --> 01:39:59,550
the Europeans responded.

2904
01:39:59,970 --> 01:40:01,450
Canadians, they went and they died.

2905
01:40:01,450 --> 01:40:02,670
The British went and they died.

2906
01:40:03,570 --> 01:40:04,370
Everybody responded.

2907
01:40:04,610 --> 01:40:06,090
Wait a minute, didn't the French say that

2908
01:40:06,090 --> 01:40:06,870
they didn't like it?

2909
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:09,510
Didn't we have Freedom Fries for that whole

2910
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:09,850
reason?

2911
01:40:12,660 --> 01:40:14,540
It was something of, what was the Freedom

2912
01:40:14,540 --> 01:40:15,720
Fries derived from?

2913
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:16,900
It had something to do with it.

2914
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:18,700
Yeah, I thought the French were like, no,

2915
01:40:18,980 --> 01:40:21,380
no, no, we're not going to do that.

2916
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:22,300
I'll look it up.

2917
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,760
That includes the French, by the way, who

2918
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,140
supported the US by sending troops to Afghanistan,

2919
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,300
89 of whom died and more than 700

2920
01:40:30,300 --> 01:40:31,180
of whom were wounded.

2921
01:40:31,180 --> 01:40:32,020
The Iraq War.

2922
01:40:32,420 --> 01:40:32,920
Yeah, yeah.

2923
01:40:33,220 --> 01:40:36,000
Public scorn for these sacrifices is just one

2924
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:37,320
barb on the arrowhead.

2925
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:37,680
Public scorn.

2926
01:40:38,060 --> 01:40:39,220
That has pierced the heart of the European

2927
01:40:39,220 --> 01:40:42,500
-American relationship and shredded trust between them.

2928
01:40:42,900 --> 01:40:45,840
And it's galvanized European governments to make themselves

2929
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,820
independent of the US when it comes to

2930
01:40:47,820 --> 01:40:48,380
their defense.

2931
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:52,180
But Fenella McGurdy says Europe was already ramping

2932
01:40:52,180 --> 01:40:54,300
up its defense spending long before Trump came

2933
01:40:54,300 --> 01:40:54,800
into office.

2934
01:40:55,460 --> 01:40:57,580
Fenella is a senior fellow for defense economics

2935
01:40:57,580 --> 01:41:00,220
at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in

2936
01:41:00,220 --> 01:41:00,500
London.

2937
01:41:00,500 --> 01:41:04,820
In 2024, we saw record defense spending growth

2938
01:41:04,820 --> 01:41:08,040
already, 11.7% in real terms.

2939
01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:10,880
And that was itself an increase, so an

2940
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,920
acceleration from the level of growth we saw

2941
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,560
in 2023, which reached 5.2%. And that

2942
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,560
was an acceleration from the growth the year

2943
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:18,860
before.

2944
01:41:18,980 --> 01:41:21,680
The EU plan announced last week will likely

2945
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:22,880
break new records.

2946
01:41:23,060 --> 01:41:25,540
It advocates a massive ramp-up of defense

2947
01:41:25,540 --> 01:41:28,840
industrial production capacity and it unlocks a combined

2948
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:33,060
$866 billion in military spending over four years.

2949
01:41:33,620 --> 01:41:35,380
That's a bite what the US spends in

2950
01:41:35,380 --> 01:41:36,580
a single year on defense.

2951
01:41:36,780 --> 01:41:39,020
So Branislav says it's not even close to

2952
01:41:39,020 --> 01:41:41,380
a conversion to a war economy, but it

2953
01:41:41,380 --> 01:41:43,200
could still be good medicine for Europe.

2954
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,740
You know, there's a funny phenomenon I've noticed.

2955
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,980
It goes basically like this.

2956
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,740
Well, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, but we're gonna

2957
01:41:54,740 --> 01:41:55,560
do that anyway.

2958
01:41:56,700 --> 01:41:58,060
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

2959
01:41:58,060 --> 01:41:59,960
We're gonna do that anyway, so it's not

2960
01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:00,300
important.

2961
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,460
This is the same phenomenon you see with

2962
01:42:02,460 --> 01:42:05,300
the NPR thing, and there's other examples I've

2963
01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:05,760
had on the show.

2964
01:42:05,900 --> 01:42:08,940
They say, well, it's only 1%, it doesn't,

2965
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:09,420
you know.

2966
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,340
Oh, they're taking all our money away, but

2967
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:12,440
it's only 1%.

2968
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,720
Yeah, yeah, it's only 1%, but still.

2969
01:42:17,620 --> 01:42:21,460
Or the park services, like, oh, the government

2970
01:42:21,460 --> 01:42:23,920
is making a great investment, the $10 billion

2971
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,900
on national parks generates $70 billion.

2972
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:28,780
What do you need the 10 for?

2973
01:42:31,220 --> 01:42:34,080
I found this, on and on, this idea,

2974
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,220
you complain about something, but then back it

2975
01:42:36,220 --> 01:42:37,920
off and say, well, it's not important.

2976
01:42:38,740 --> 01:42:39,900
Just doesn't make any sense.

2977
01:42:39,980 --> 01:42:41,900
Now, further on, this, by the way, this

2978
01:42:41,900 --> 01:42:42,560
goes on forever.

2979
01:42:42,660 --> 01:42:45,100
The third clip is deep into the conversation

2980
01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:46,240
near the end.

2981
01:42:46,380 --> 01:42:48,220
I just thought I'd put, drop that in.

2982
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:49,840
Everything is changing right now.

2983
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,100
This current war, things have evolved dramatically.

2984
01:42:52,340 --> 01:42:54,680
Initially, for instance, everybody was talking artillery and

2985
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:55,080
tanks.

2986
01:42:55,340 --> 01:42:56,500
That was a big thing.

2987
01:42:56,500 --> 01:42:58,000
Then the tanks turned out not to be

2988
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:58,740
super effective.

2989
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,400
And now everything is drones and the missiles,

2990
01:43:02,540 --> 01:43:02,700
right?

2991
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,580
And everything then is- Why is he

2992
01:43:04,580 --> 01:43:05,600
laughing about that?

2993
01:43:05,980 --> 01:43:07,200
Is it because they're so cheap?

2994
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:09,360
It's like, it's drones.

2995
01:43:09,780 --> 01:43:13,480
Now everything is drones and the missiles, right?

2996
01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:15,180
And why is that funny?

2997
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,200
That is an interesting, I didn't notice this,

2998
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:18,920
but you're right.

2999
01:43:19,060 --> 01:43:19,560
Why is it?

3000
01:43:19,660 --> 01:43:21,100
It's a laugh tale, but why?

3001
01:43:21,780 --> 01:43:21,880
Drones.

3002
01:43:22,540 --> 01:43:23,400
Drones, I don't know.

3003
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,180
Oh, missiles.

3004
01:43:25,700 --> 01:43:28,920
Everything is drones and the missiles, right?

3005
01:43:29,020 --> 01:43:31,860
And everything then is related to how you

3006
01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:34,600
can keep electronic warfare from the interference.

3007
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:36,160
Do you have eyes in the sky?

3008
01:43:36,220 --> 01:43:38,540
So the satellites, so these are the kind

3009
01:43:38,540 --> 01:43:40,760
of capabilities we should not be building to

3010
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:41,060
fight.

3011
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,000
In other words, the whole thing is a

3012
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:43,340
farce.

3013
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:44,520
I think that's why he's laughing.

3014
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,880
War has become a farce.

3015
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,000
It's like, it's just, it's like a, it's

3016
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:49,900
like a video game.

3017
01:43:49,940 --> 01:43:50,920
Oh, we just push this.

3018
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:51,600
We just push that.

3019
01:43:51,660 --> 01:43:52,600
We got eye in the sky.

3020
01:43:52,700 --> 01:43:53,320
We've got drones.

3021
01:43:53,660 --> 01:43:54,560
We got missiles.

3022
01:43:54,900 --> 01:43:57,060
It's not, it's not really like fighting in

3023
01:43:57,060 --> 01:43:58,060
the trenches anymore.

3024
01:43:58,980 --> 01:44:00,740
The last three wars we should be building

3025
01:44:00,740 --> 01:44:01,820
to fight the next one.

3026
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,080
Europe can do all sorts of things to

3027
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:05,920
move quickly or at least more quickly than

3028
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:06,540
it usually does.

3029
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,020
It can convert old factories to make arms

3030
01:44:09,020 --> 01:44:11,540
and reconfigure existing ones to become dual use

3031
01:44:11,540 --> 01:44:13,500
civilian and military production hubs.

3032
01:44:13,740 --> 01:44:16,260
It can develop supply relationships with other arms

3033
01:44:16,260 --> 01:44:18,260
providers like South Korea or Israel.

3034
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,680
But whatever it does, it'll take time, Fenella

3035
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:22,060
says.

3036
01:44:22,060 --> 01:44:24,040
And because of that, the US will likely

3037
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,460
remain part of the European defense equation for

3038
01:44:26,460 --> 01:44:27,480
the foreseeable future.

3039
01:44:27,940 --> 01:44:30,860
It takes decades for a lot of these

3040
01:44:30,860 --> 01:44:31,340
programs.

3041
01:44:32,060 --> 01:44:33,400
So I think that there's some level of

3042
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,600
dependence will always be there, certainly in things

3043
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,180
like heavy lift transport and things like that,

3044
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,080
because those capabilities do take time to develop.

3045
01:44:41,480 --> 01:44:43,220
And I think Europe could get there, but

3046
01:44:43,220 --> 01:44:45,600
not in perhaps in the timeframe it needs.

3047
01:44:45,700 --> 01:44:48,180
So there's always going to be that, that

3048
01:44:48,180 --> 01:44:50,200
some level of reliance on the US and

3049
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,000
hopefully some partnerships going forward, which ultimately is

3050
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:54,700
good for US defense industry as well.

3051
01:44:56,780 --> 01:44:59,420
Yeah, Eric Schmidt is a smart guy, man.

3052
01:44:59,480 --> 01:45:01,740
I remember we played clip of him all

3053
01:45:01,740 --> 01:45:05,180
about drones, drones is the new warfare, this

3054
01:45:05,180 --> 01:45:06,060
is where it's going.

3055
01:45:06,500 --> 01:45:07,480
And there it is.

3056
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:09,540
There it is.

3057
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:14,720
It's all cheap technology to blow people up.

3058
01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:18,040
By the way, food has been, renaming food

3059
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:19,860
in time of war is not new.

3060
01:45:20,460 --> 01:45:24,760
So Freedom Fries was indeed, changed the name

3061
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:30,020
of French fries in 2003, France's opposition to

3062
01:45:30,020 --> 01:45:32,560
invading Iraq, which in hindsight, of course they

3063
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:33,100
were correct.

3064
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:34,120
Yeah.

3065
01:45:35,540 --> 01:45:36,800
So we punished them.

3066
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,180
Yeah, we're going to show you Frenchies.

3067
01:45:40,780 --> 01:45:44,100
World War I, sauerkraut was renamed in America

3068
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:45,460
to Liberty Cabbage.

3069
01:45:49,380 --> 01:45:52,580
And Frankfurters and hot dogs were changed to

3070
01:45:52,580 --> 01:45:53,460
Liberty Dog.

3071
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:54,860
Liberty Dog.

3072
01:45:55,480 --> 01:45:57,220
We need to, we need a, we need

3073
01:45:57,220 --> 01:45:59,900
an anti-Russian kind of thing, but the

3074
01:45:59,900 --> 01:46:00,460
thing is Russia.

3075
01:46:00,660 --> 01:46:01,960
We don't need Russian foods.

3076
01:46:02,020 --> 01:46:02,360
No, because it's...

3077
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:02,780
We're not in Russia.

3078
01:46:03,220 --> 01:46:03,700
Well, vodka.

3079
01:46:04,020 --> 01:46:04,180
Borscht.

3080
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:05,480
We could change vodka.

3081
01:46:05,860 --> 01:46:07,560
Vodka, you could change that to what would

3082
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:07,660
that be?

3083
01:46:07,660 --> 01:46:09,340
Freedom juice, freedom juice.

3084
01:46:09,940 --> 01:46:10,880
Freedom juice.

3085
01:46:12,440 --> 01:46:13,660
I'm writing it down.

3086
01:46:14,480 --> 01:46:14,740
Yeah.

3087
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:15,440
Freedom juice.

3088
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:16,120
What else?

3089
01:46:16,780 --> 01:46:17,800
Liberty Sap.

3090
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:19,660
I mean, there's all kinds of things.

3091
01:46:19,660 --> 01:46:20,780
Liberty Sap.

3092
01:46:23,820 --> 01:46:25,740
Hey man, hit me with some...

3093
01:46:25,740 --> 01:46:27,120
Liberty Sap, neat.

3094
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:28,920
Okay, nice.

3095
01:46:30,940 --> 01:46:33,140
Oh man, the people are crazy.

3096
01:46:33,740 --> 01:46:35,020
The world has gone nuts.

3097
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:36,420
It's gone nuts, I tell you.

3098
01:46:36,620 --> 01:46:37,620
The world has gone nuts.

3099
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,900
Well, I do have a couple of...

3100
01:46:41,580 --> 01:46:42,760
I get that...

3101
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:44,400
These are clips I want to get out

3102
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:44,800
of the way.

3103
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,620
This is the D-E-I-D-O

3104
01:46:47,620 --> 01:46:48,160
-A clips.

3105
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:49,520
There's only two of them.

3106
01:46:49,740 --> 01:46:49,860
Okay.

3107
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:51,940
All right.

3108
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:53,620
President Trump has called for an end to...

3109
01:46:53,620 --> 01:46:55,140
Oh, you got to warn me.

3110
01:46:55,220 --> 01:46:55,320
It's your buddy.

3111
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,080
You got to warn me about that kind

3112
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:57,480
of stuff.

3113
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,600
You can't just launch into shush.

3114
01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:02,140
Suffer and succotash.

3115
01:47:02,260 --> 01:47:02,840
I'm Scott.

3116
01:47:07,430 --> 01:47:07,830
Simon.

3117
01:47:08,090 --> 01:47:09,470
President Trump has called for an end to

3118
01:47:09,470 --> 01:47:12,330
what he calls illegal diversity, equity, and inclusion

3119
01:47:12,330 --> 01:47:12,810
efforts.

3120
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:16,370
So he has revoked a 1965 executive order

3121
01:47:16,370 --> 01:47:19,450
that has guided generations of federal contractors on

3122
01:47:19,450 --> 01:47:22,350
how to comply with non-discrimination laws.

3123
01:47:23,130 --> 01:47:25,950
As NPR's Andrea Hsu reports, that's leaving federal

3124
01:47:25,950 --> 01:47:29,370
contractors who employ one in five workers in

3125
01:47:29,370 --> 01:47:30,770
the U.S. scrambling.

3126
01:47:31,330 --> 01:47:32,670
The end of Lyndon B.

3127
01:47:32,750 --> 01:47:36,910
Johnson's executive order 11246 has kept Matt Camardella

3128
01:47:36,910 --> 01:47:37,430
busy.

3129
01:47:37,890 --> 01:47:39,790
His whole practice at the law firm Jackson

3130
01:47:39,790 --> 01:47:42,310
Lewis is helping companies that do business with

3131
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:44,950
the government comply with that order and with

3132
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:46,050
other federal laws.

3133
01:47:46,450 --> 01:47:49,590
Since Trump's return, he's been fielding questions nonstop.

3134
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:51,730
This is pretty much all I've been doing

3135
01:47:51,730 --> 01:47:52,770
for the last six weeks.

3136
01:47:53,070 --> 01:47:56,990
The 1965 executive order required most federal contractors

3137
01:47:56,990 --> 01:48:00,150
to take steps to identify and address barriers

3138
01:48:00,150 --> 01:48:03,310
to employment for anyone, but especially women and

3139
01:48:03,310 --> 01:48:04,050
people of color.

3140
01:48:04,690 --> 01:48:08,170
Camardella says his clients took those responsibilities seriously.

3141
01:48:08,710 --> 01:48:11,030
Every year, they'd analyze their hiring and pay

3142
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:13,530
practices to try to figure out, for example,

3143
01:48:13,670 --> 01:48:15,590
if women were getting paid less than men.

3144
01:48:16,090 --> 01:48:17,830
They'd plan out how to recruit a diverse

3145
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:20,550
workforce so that their hires reflected the pool

3146
01:48:20,550 --> 01:48:22,270
of available workers around them.

3147
01:48:22,450 --> 01:48:26,930
There was real risk in not doing this

3148
01:48:26,930 --> 01:48:29,270
properly or at all for that matter.

3149
01:48:29,530 --> 01:48:31,670
But now things have gotten complicated.

3150
01:48:32,250 --> 01:48:35,090
Not only has Trump revoked Johnson's executive order

3151
01:48:35,090 --> 01:48:38,150
and halted its enforcement, the president has also

3152
01:48:38,150 --> 01:48:41,650
issued his own executive order requiring contractors to

3153
01:48:41,650 --> 01:48:44,950
certify that they're not engaging in illegal DEI.

3154
01:48:46,550 --> 01:48:48,290
Yeah, well, you know.

3155
01:48:48,530 --> 01:48:50,850
I didn't realize this went back to Lyndon

3156
01:48:50,850 --> 01:48:51,430
Johnson.

3157
01:48:53,850 --> 01:48:55,290
No, I didn't know that either.

3158
01:48:56,330 --> 01:48:59,210
But it doesn't surprise me, strangely enough.

3159
01:49:00,950 --> 01:49:02,890
But it really, I mean, the thing that

3160
01:49:02,890 --> 01:49:04,730
people forget about DEI is it was a

3161
01:49:04,730 --> 01:49:06,010
part of ESG.

3162
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:09,010
And the reason why companies all got on

3163
01:49:09,010 --> 01:49:12,270
board with it is because they had a

3164
01:49:12,270 --> 01:49:12,690
score.

3165
01:49:13,770 --> 01:49:15,490
And it was, I think it was the

3166
01:49:15,490 --> 01:49:18,890
BlackRock guys, didn't they come up with some

3167
01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:20,390
board and this board determined?

3168
01:49:20,770 --> 01:49:21,410
Larry Fink.

3169
01:49:21,550 --> 01:49:22,650
Yes, the Finkelmeister.

3170
01:49:23,090 --> 01:49:25,290
And they had a score system.

3171
01:49:25,670 --> 01:49:29,610
And depending on your environmental, social and governance

3172
01:49:29,610 --> 01:49:33,390
score, you became less or more investable by

3173
01:49:33,390 --> 01:49:34,610
pension funds mainly.

3174
01:49:35,170 --> 01:49:37,490
That's why everyone got, it was a real,

3175
01:49:38,030 --> 01:49:39,930
real evil thing they did.

3176
01:49:40,430 --> 01:49:42,150
Yeah, but they pulled the plug on it

3177
01:49:42,150 --> 01:49:42,470
finally.

3178
01:49:42,710 --> 01:49:43,710
Oh, yes, they did.

3179
01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:45,070
A court has blocked- Mainly because the

3180
01:49:45,070 --> 01:49:46,210
investments were bad.

3181
01:49:46,530 --> 01:49:47,070
Yeah.

3182
01:49:47,330 --> 01:49:50,610
The high scoring ESG guys weren't good companies.

3183
01:49:50,650 --> 01:49:51,410
Lose your pants.

3184
01:49:52,010 --> 01:49:53,930
A court has blocked that part of Trump's

3185
01:49:53,930 --> 01:49:54,710
order for now.

3186
01:49:55,110 --> 01:49:57,610
Still, Camerodella says the problem is.

3187
01:49:57,830 --> 01:50:01,730
Nobody really understands what illegal DEI means.

3188
01:50:01,950 --> 01:50:04,790
He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law

3189
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:05,490
has changed.

3190
01:50:05,850 --> 01:50:07,790
In fact, he believes there's nothing wrong with

3191
01:50:07,790 --> 01:50:09,690
a company carrying on with what it had

3192
01:50:09,690 --> 01:50:12,010
been doing, looking at its pay practices or

3193
01:50:12,010 --> 01:50:14,450
its hiring or its outreach to ensure it's

3194
01:50:14,450 --> 01:50:15,590
complying with the law.

3195
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:18,650
However, there may be a perception that somehow

3196
01:50:18,650 --> 01:50:22,490
that smacks of illegal DEI.

3197
01:50:22,510 --> 01:50:23,510
I'm very concerned.

3198
01:50:23,930 --> 01:50:26,070
Jenny Yang headed a labor department office that

3199
01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:29,690
enforced the 1965 executive order under President Biden.

3200
01:50:30,090 --> 01:50:32,870
That office investigated employers and all kinds of

3201
01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:35,410
industries, tech, manufacturing, construction.

3202
01:50:36,050 --> 01:50:38,970
In 2020, Princeton University agreed to pay more

3203
01:50:38,970 --> 01:50:41,070
than a million dollars in back wages and

3204
01:50:41,070 --> 01:50:44,090
salary adjustments to about a hundred female professors

3205
01:50:44,090 --> 01:50:46,350
after the government found pay disparities.

3206
01:50:46,990 --> 01:50:49,670
The university denied it had discriminated against women,

3207
01:50:50,030 --> 01:50:51,770
but agreed to look more closely at its

3208
01:50:51,770 --> 01:50:52,450
pay practices.

3209
01:50:53,150 --> 01:50:55,390
Jenny Yang says the Office of Federal Contractor

3210
01:50:55,390 --> 01:50:58,890
Compliance Programs, or OFCCP, can claim many successes.

3211
01:50:58,890 --> 01:51:02,950
So in the last decade, OFCCP recovered, for

3212
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:05,310
example, over a hundred million dollars for women

3213
01:51:05,310 --> 01:51:07,110
who were victims of discrimination.

3214
01:51:07,590 --> 01:51:09,570
Now under Trump, that office is expected to

3215
01:51:09,570 --> 01:51:12,490
be largely dismantled since its primary task is

3216
01:51:12,490 --> 01:51:12,870
gone.

3217
01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:15,530
The labor department has not confirmed when that's

3218
01:51:15,530 --> 01:51:16,170
going to happen.

3219
01:51:16,930 --> 01:51:20,090
Trump says ending illegal discrimination will allow people

3220
01:51:20,090 --> 01:51:21,770
to compete based on merit.

3221
01:51:23,050 --> 01:51:28,950
Speaking of DEI, the Canadian Transportation Board released

3222
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:31,990
the data from the black box of the,

3223
01:51:32,110 --> 01:51:34,050
was it the Delta flight?

3224
01:51:34,630 --> 01:51:35,710
The- The one that flipped over?

3225
01:51:35,790 --> 01:51:36,550
The one that flipped over.

3226
01:51:37,810 --> 01:51:39,870
And so they have not yet released the

3227
01:51:39,870 --> 01:51:42,510
cockpit voice recorder, which will be important to

3228
01:51:42,510 --> 01:51:42,650
hear.

3229
01:51:42,850 --> 01:51:47,190
So just on the pilots, so indeed the

3230
01:51:47,190 --> 01:51:52,530
first officer, the female, the co-pilot, was

3231
01:51:52,530 --> 01:51:54,550
a female officer.

3232
01:51:54,570 --> 01:51:58,130
She had just about the, I mean, she

3233
01:51:58,130 --> 01:52:01,490
graduated from the right academy and it's all

3234
01:52:01,490 --> 01:52:02,330
within the rules.

3235
01:52:02,570 --> 01:52:04,910
Then you don't need 1500 hours, but 1000

3236
01:52:04,910 --> 01:52:05,430
hours.

3237
01:52:06,130 --> 01:52:08,310
So she racked up another almost 500.

3238
01:52:08,590 --> 01:52:11,830
She'd flown 56 hours that week and she

3239
01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:14,610
was piloting, which is very normal, particularly when

3240
01:52:14,610 --> 01:52:19,770
you note that the captain, the pilot, the

3241
01:52:19,770 --> 01:52:22,470
one actually in control of the entire flight,

3242
01:52:22,850 --> 01:52:25,790
not only a very high amount of hours,

3243
01:52:25,970 --> 01:52:28,550
but a trainer on simulators and real world.

3244
01:52:29,130 --> 01:52:31,910
So that is exactly the scenario you want.

3245
01:52:31,970 --> 01:52:34,670
You want pilots to be flying and learn

3246
01:52:34,670 --> 01:52:36,270
how to fly and learn all kinds of

3247
01:52:36,270 --> 01:52:38,670
scenarios when you have an instructor there next

3248
01:52:38,670 --> 01:52:40,150
to her in this case.

3249
01:52:40,750 --> 01:52:44,430
There was nothing wrong with the aircraft, but

3250
01:52:44,430 --> 01:52:47,690
there were wind gusts and this was a

3251
01:52:47,690 --> 01:52:48,790
very hard landing.

3252
01:52:49,590 --> 01:52:52,990
The landing gear is rated to a drop

3253
01:52:52,990 --> 01:52:54,990
onto the tarmac with a sink rate, I

3254
01:52:54,990 --> 01:52:57,110
think, 760 feet per minute.

3255
01:52:57,290 --> 01:52:59,050
They headed at over 1000.

3256
01:52:59,570 --> 01:53:02,270
So what happened was, as I said, is

3257
01:53:02,270 --> 01:53:05,490
the, and so the full weight came down

3258
01:53:05,490 --> 01:53:07,910
on the right rear landing gear.

3259
01:53:08,150 --> 01:53:10,190
It snapped off and that's why the wing

3260
01:53:10,190 --> 01:53:11,630
hit the ground and then they were very

3261
01:53:11,630 --> 01:53:13,190
fortunate how that all ended up.

3262
01:53:13,810 --> 01:53:17,950
So it's not necessarily a DEI issue.

3263
01:53:18,570 --> 01:53:20,950
There's female pilots out there who yell at

3264
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:21,810
me when I say this.

3265
01:53:22,110 --> 01:53:24,270
This could have happened to any pilot, but

3266
01:53:24,270 --> 01:53:27,630
really the male pilot in command was in

3267
01:53:27,630 --> 01:53:28,050
charge.

3268
01:53:28,730 --> 01:53:31,570
He should have had his hands on the

3269
01:53:31,570 --> 01:53:31,830
yoke.

3270
01:53:32,110 --> 01:53:34,090
He should have been following through the whole

3271
01:53:34,090 --> 01:53:34,490
time.

3272
01:53:34,970 --> 01:53:37,890
So we'll see exactly what was said, but

3273
01:53:37,890 --> 01:53:39,450
I think this could have happened to anybody,

3274
01:53:39,710 --> 01:53:40,950
but it wasn't good.

3275
01:53:41,210 --> 01:53:42,950
It was clearly human error.

3276
01:53:44,410 --> 01:53:46,150
And that's your update from the air.

3277
01:53:47,930 --> 01:53:50,670
BBC World Service aviation update.

3278
01:53:51,370 --> 01:53:57,310
Speaking of illegal DEI, there's another term that

3279
01:53:57,310 --> 01:54:00,550
popped up in regards to the GLP-1,

3280
01:54:01,390 --> 01:54:05,250
or as we say, I went to my,

3281
01:54:05,330 --> 01:54:06,510
I got my hair cut in Austin the

3282
01:54:06,510 --> 01:54:11,090
other day, what is it, Gluta, what's the

3283
01:54:11,090 --> 01:54:12,750
name of the compound?

3284
01:54:15,490 --> 01:54:16,130
Gluta...

3285
01:54:16,130 --> 01:54:17,790
Glutamine, glutamine, glutamine.

3286
01:54:17,970 --> 01:54:18,530
No, it's not glutamine.

3287
01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:23,190
Glutatide, gluty, gluty, gluty-tooty.

3288
01:54:23,330 --> 01:54:26,110
Gluty-tooty, no, she pronounced it in a

3289
01:54:26,110 --> 01:54:27,550
French way and it sounded kind of good.

3290
01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:32,750
Oh, semi-glutidase, semi-decre, semi-glutidase.

3291
01:54:33,950 --> 01:54:37,470
Because now every single hair salon hands out

3292
01:54:37,470 --> 01:54:41,190
little flyers, little cards for the injection nurse,

3293
01:54:41,230 --> 01:54:43,210
which we learned just a few weeks ago.

3294
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:45,890
And you get your Botox, you get your

3295
01:54:45,890 --> 01:54:48,490
lip fillers and you get your GLP-1,

3296
01:54:48,590 --> 01:54:49,750
your semi-glutidase.

3297
01:54:49,890 --> 01:54:51,670
Kind of a place are you going to?

3298
01:54:53,850 --> 01:54:56,050
Every place has that now, by the way.

3299
01:54:56,110 --> 01:54:57,050
No, they don't.

3300
01:54:57,310 --> 01:54:59,350
Yes, yes, all- You're going to some

3301
01:54:59,350 --> 01:55:01,930
sort of a screwball place, some sort of

3302
01:55:01,930 --> 01:55:05,010
a place with the upper crust of Dallas

3303
01:55:05,010 --> 01:55:06,190
or whatever, or Austin.

3304
01:55:06,610 --> 01:55:09,770
Okay, so first of all, it's a women's

3305
01:55:09,770 --> 01:55:10,870
hair salon mainly.

3306
01:55:10,970 --> 01:55:12,010
Well, that would make sense.

3307
01:55:12,010 --> 01:55:15,310
Although the former New York banker also goes

3308
01:55:15,310 --> 01:55:15,430
there.

3309
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:17,130
I've been going to her for 15 years.

3310
01:55:17,310 --> 01:55:19,170
So when we left Austin, I was not

3311
01:55:19,170 --> 01:55:20,750
going to give up on my hair relationship.

3312
01:55:21,490 --> 01:55:28,230
But it's good because she is definitely libtard

3313
01:55:28,230 --> 01:55:32,110
adjacent, but she has no problem with my

3314
01:55:32,110 --> 01:55:32,530
views.

3315
01:55:32,630 --> 01:55:34,250
And we always have a really nice conversation

3316
01:55:34,250 --> 01:55:35,950
and she always, because she has no one

3317
01:55:35,950 --> 01:55:38,350
to talk to about how crazy people, no

3318
01:55:38,350 --> 01:55:40,230
one in her life, not her partner, nobody.

3319
01:55:40,230 --> 01:55:42,390
She can't just say- She's a lesbian?

3320
01:55:42,730 --> 01:55:44,010
No, no, she's not a lesbian.

3321
01:55:44,330 --> 01:55:45,610
She's a deadhead though.

3322
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:49,470
She goes to Vegas to sit in the

3323
01:55:49,470 --> 01:55:51,150
sphere three nights in a row and she

3324
01:55:51,150 --> 01:55:51,970
loved John Mayer.

3325
01:55:54,530 --> 01:55:56,570
But she has no one in her life

3326
01:55:56,570 --> 01:55:57,450
where she can- How old is this

3327
01:55:57,450 --> 01:55:57,710
woman?

3328
01:55:58,610 --> 01:56:01,770
She is 47, I think, 47.

3329
01:56:01,830 --> 01:56:02,230
47?

3330
01:56:02,690 --> 01:56:02,990
Yes.

3331
01:56:04,430 --> 01:56:05,690
And what does that have to do with

3332
01:56:05,690 --> 01:56:05,970
anything?

3333
01:56:06,530 --> 01:56:08,610
I just want to know who would go

3334
01:56:08,610 --> 01:56:10,110
to Vegas and sit in the sphere for

3335
01:56:10,110 --> 01:56:12,650
three days unless they were a young stoner.

3336
01:56:13,050 --> 01:56:14,490
Thousands and thousands of people.

3337
01:56:16,190 --> 01:56:17,070
Young stoners.

3338
01:56:17,630 --> 01:56:17,830
Yes.

3339
01:56:18,630 --> 01:56:20,890
And so she, and Vegas is not legal

3340
01:56:20,890 --> 01:56:21,810
to be stoned everywhere.

3341
01:56:21,950 --> 01:56:23,590
Walk around, the whole place smells like weed.

3342
01:56:23,670 --> 01:56:25,030
You can drink though in the street.

3343
01:56:25,250 --> 01:56:25,490
Yes.

3344
01:56:25,710 --> 01:56:27,330
You can smoke weed on the street too.

3345
01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:30,050
But now the hotels, the casinos, everything smells

3346
01:56:30,050 --> 01:56:30,510
of weed.

3347
01:56:31,730 --> 01:56:33,070
Anyway, it's horrible.

3348
01:56:33,210 --> 01:56:33,710
It's nasty.

3349
01:56:35,250 --> 01:56:37,010
To get to the point of the story.

3350
01:56:37,370 --> 01:56:39,230
So she can't just say, oh, I enjoyed

3351
01:56:39,230 --> 01:56:40,490
watching Trump on Rogan.

3352
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:42,650
She can't say that to anybody in her

3353
01:56:42,650 --> 01:56:44,290
world, in Austin.

3354
01:56:44,970 --> 01:56:47,690
Despite the fact that Rogan is in Austin,

3355
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:48,430
is a local.

3356
01:56:48,650 --> 01:56:48,830
Yeah.

3357
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:50,530
No, that is not done.

3358
01:56:51,510 --> 01:56:53,470
And she said that she had a client

3359
01:56:53,470 --> 01:56:56,510
the other day and these are just, yeah,

3360
01:56:56,690 --> 01:56:58,210
maybe upper crust.

3361
01:56:58,310 --> 01:57:01,230
I'm not sure, but Austin, white Austin women.

3362
01:57:02,990 --> 01:57:06,030
And the topic of Tesla came up and

3363
01:57:06,030 --> 01:57:06,670
Elon.

3364
01:57:06,670 --> 01:57:08,010
She's like, eh, well, you know.

3365
01:57:08,630 --> 01:57:12,610
And her customer said, you know, he's a

3366
01:57:12,610 --> 01:57:13,290
Nazi, right?

3367
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:20,820
And my girl was like, no, he is

3368
01:57:20,820 --> 01:57:24,060
a, so these people, these are educated people,

3369
01:57:24,580 --> 01:57:26,480
actually believe he is a Nazi.

3370
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:28,540
Because- Like a literal Nazi.

3371
01:57:28,780 --> 01:57:30,980
A literal, not just like a name you

3372
01:57:30,980 --> 01:57:31,580
call someone.

3373
01:57:31,900 --> 01:57:32,840
No, he's a Nazi.

3374
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:34,780
He is an actual Nazi.

3375
01:57:36,700 --> 01:57:37,220
Exactly.

3376
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:41,840
Anyway, back to the, it was a fun

3377
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:41,980
trip.

3378
01:57:42,020 --> 01:57:43,640
It's worth the drive, trust me.

3379
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:48,580
Back to this illegal term when it comes

3380
01:57:48,580 --> 01:57:49,620
to the semi-glutides.

3381
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:50,320
Listen to this.

3382
01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:53,880
A new report reveals illegal ingredients in knockoff

3383
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,360
weight loss drugs that are flooding into the

3384
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:57,080
United States.

3385
01:57:57,300 --> 01:58:00,220
Shabbir Imber Shaftar is the executive director of

3386
01:58:00,220 --> 01:58:03,080
the Partnership for Safe Medicines and the coauthor

3387
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:04,640
of this new report.

3388
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:05,880
He's joining me now live.

3389
01:58:05,980 --> 01:58:06,460
Hello to you.

3390
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,180
So, illegal ingredients.

3391
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,980
Now, when you hear that, what is the

3392
01:58:10,980 --> 01:58:11,960
first thing you think?

3393
01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:18,320
Apparently nothing.

3394
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:21,340
You walked away.

3395
01:58:21,540 --> 01:58:23,500
You walked away during my report.

3396
01:58:24,660 --> 01:58:25,960
Are you peeing?

3397
01:58:26,100 --> 01:58:26,720
You just like, oh.

3398
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,340
I always forget that I have speakers.

3399
01:58:28,460 --> 01:58:29,740
Do you have something else to do?

3400
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,700
Yeah, the phone was ringing off the hook.

3401
01:58:32,860 --> 01:58:35,340
Well, we've been doing this show for over

3402
01:58:35,340 --> 01:58:36,300
17 years.

3403
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:37,680
Take it off the hook already.

3404
01:58:38,180 --> 01:58:40,080
And I listened to the clip and the

3405
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,500
clip was going on and on.

3406
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:43,360
And I said, well, this clip is gonna

3407
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:45,260
go on long enough that I can walk

3408
01:58:45,260 --> 01:58:46,500
over to the phone and take it off

3409
01:58:46,500 --> 01:58:47,640
the hook and you can hear it beeping

3410
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:48,180
back there.

3411
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:48,880
Yes.

3412
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,860
And then you come on with a question

3413
01:58:50,860 --> 01:58:51,700
out of the blue.

3414
01:58:51,940 --> 01:58:52,620
Oh, no.

3415
01:58:52,820 --> 01:58:54,760
I thought we were doing a show, but

3416
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:55,240
oh, no.

3417
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:55,860
No.

3418
01:58:56,580 --> 01:58:58,540
Okay, did you understand the question?

3419
01:58:58,660 --> 01:58:59,960
Would you like me to restart the clip

3420
01:58:59,960 --> 01:59:01,200
and do the question again and we can

3421
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:01,460
end it out?

3422
01:59:01,460 --> 01:59:02,500
Well, I heard the clip.

3423
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:03,260
I could hear the clip.

3424
01:59:03,340 --> 01:59:04,940
The question was vague.

3425
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:08,720
I'll play the clip again It was about,

3426
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:11,780
no, it was about what ingredients that are

3427
01:59:11,780 --> 01:59:12,100
illegal.

3428
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:12,600
Yeah.

3429
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,740
You said what ingredients were illegal?

3430
01:59:16,100 --> 01:59:18,400
No, I said, when someone says an ingredient

3431
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,600
is illegal, what is the, this is a

3432
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:21,280
news report.

3433
01:59:21,700 --> 01:59:23,600
What do you think that means?

3434
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,240
And that, what you just said is different

3435
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:28,920
than what I just said that you contradicted

3436
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:30,180
and said I didn't know what you were

3437
01:59:30,180 --> 01:59:30,720
talking about.

3438
01:59:30,860 --> 01:59:31,660
Answer the question, go.

3439
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:33,500
What do I think that?

3440
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:36,920
Mark Levin.

3441
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,320
And so, go.

3442
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,340
The, what do I think it means?

3443
01:59:42,380 --> 01:59:43,660
It means that something's toxic.

3444
01:59:43,940 --> 01:59:45,780
Yes, that's my point.

3445
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:47,640
Thank you for answering the question correctly.

3446
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:49,640
You go on to our second round.

3447
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,840
Of this new report, he's joining me now

3448
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:52,140
live.

3449
01:59:52,220 --> 01:59:52,700
Hello to you.

3450
01:59:52,980 --> 01:59:54,960
Hello, and thank you for covering this critical

3451
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:55,860
safety information.

3452
01:59:56,060 --> 01:59:57,500
Clearly a PR guy.

3453
01:59:59,140 --> 02:00:01,560
He's not a doctor, he's a PR dude.

3454
02:00:01,740 --> 02:00:02,220
The information.

3455
02:00:02,340 --> 02:00:04,120
Of course, you know, let's start with what

3456
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,320
you found and what your report reveals when

3457
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,560
it comes to these illegal weight loss drugs

3458
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:09,700
that are coming into the country.

3459
02:00:10,060 --> 02:00:11,780
Now all of a sudden, the whole thing

3460
02:00:11,780 --> 02:00:12,420
is illegal.

3461
02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:15,540
So in our report, we studied shipments of

3462
02:00:15,540 --> 02:00:19,000
semaglutide and trizepatide, the active ingredients in these

3463
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,380
very popular weight loss medications that were coming

3464
02:00:21,380 --> 02:00:23,500
into the country and found that there were

3465
02:00:23,500 --> 02:00:25,960
shipments that were declared as being made in

3466
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:28,400
factories that the FDA did not even know

3467
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,480
of, were not registered with the FDA and

3468
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:31,580
certainly never inspected.

3469
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:34,460
And some of them were marked as for

3470
02:00:34,460 --> 02:00:36,620
compounding, which is a great concern of ours

3471
02:00:36,620 --> 02:00:39,780
because there's been some issues with compounding these

3472
02:00:39,780 --> 02:00:41,220
medicines and safety.

3473
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:43,940
So it's not that they were toxic ingredients.

3474
02:00:44,500 --> 02:00:46,560
They came from labs that the FDA had

3475
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:47,600
never heard of.

3476
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:51,900
So this is a PR move because it's

3477
02:00:51,900 --> 02:00:56,520
just semaglutide, which is a non-patentable peptide.

3478
02:00:56,780 --> 02:00:59,700
But oh, they came from labs the FDA

3479
02:00:59,700 --> 02:01:01,040
had never, it's illegal, it's illegal.

3480
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:05,220
Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into

3481
02:01:05,220 --> 02:01:06,560
the- Oh boy, she really punches that

3482
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:06,940
one up.

3483
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:08,400
Yeah, she punched it up, didn't she?

3484
02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:09,000
I like that.

3485
02:01:09,220 --> 02:01:11,140
Which is a great concern of ours because

3486
02:01:11,140 --> 02:01:14,460
there's been some issues with compounding these medicines

3487
02:01:14,460 --> 02:01:15,460
and safety.

3488
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:19,540
Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into

3489
02:01:19,540 --> 02:01:21,260
the legal- It was in her script.

3490
02:01:21,540 --> 02:01:23,700
I think it was italicized in her script.

3491
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:25,900
Like, and really punch this one up because

3492
02:01:25,900 --> 02:01:27,860
this guy's paying to be on.

3493
02:01:28,060 --> 02:01:31,720
Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into

3494
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:33,740
the legal supply of these drugs?

3495
02:01:33,740 --> 02:01:34,620
Does that make sense?

3496
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:35,740
It does make sense.

3497
02:01:35,860 --> 02:01:38,960
We don't actually know enough because FDA does

3498
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:40,640
not publish where the shipments went.

3499
02:01:40,820 --> 02:01:42,380
We only know that there were nearly 200

3500
02:01:42,380 --> 02:01:45,020
shipments that came in that were made in

3501
02:01:45,020 --> 02:01:47,100
places that could never have been safe, even

3502
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:48,340
if they'd been known to the FDA.

3503
02:01:48,660 --> 02:01:50,180
One was the JW Marriott.

3504
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,300
There was another one at a health fitness

3505
02:01:52,300 --> 02:01:54,020
club and another one at a high school

3506
02:01:54,020 --> 02:01:54,580
in Canada.

3507
02:01:54,780 --> 02:01:57,160
And none of those could possibly even believably

3508
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:00,440
be legal and legitimate or safe facilities.

3509
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:02,840
And then he adds safe, legal or legitimate

3510
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:03,580
or safe.

3511
02:02:04,340 --> 02:02:07,000
So the message is get your brand name

3512
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:07,860
drugs, everybody.

3513
02:02:07,980 --> 02:02:10,100
Get them now because all of your Congress

3514
02:02:10,100 --> 02:02:12,200
people have been paid off by them, according

3515
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:15,200
to RFK Jr. Today, over a hundred members

3516
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:18,640
of Congress support a bill to fund Ozempic

3517
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,940
with Medicare at $1,500 a month.

3518
02:02:22,420 --> 02:02:25,600
Most of these members have taken money from

3519
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:30,260
the manufacturer of that product, a European company

3520
02:02:30,260 --> 02:02:31,920
called Novo Nordisk.

3521
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,800
As everyone knows, once a drug is approved

3522
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:37,040
for Medicare, it goes to Medicaid.

3523
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,600
And there is a push to recommend Ozempic

3524
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,620
for Americans as young as six over a

3525
02:02:43,620 --> 02:02:47,220
condition of obesity that is completely preventable and

3526
02:02:47,220 --> 02:02:49,440
barely even existed a hundred years ago.

3527
02:02:49,740 --> 02:02:53,300
Since 74% of Americans are obese, the

3528
02:02:53,300 --> 02:02:55,640
cost of all of them, if they take

3529
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:59,780
their Ozempic prescription, will be $3 trillion a

3530
02:02:59,780 --> 02:03:00,020
year.

3531
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:02,360
This is a drug that has made Novo

3532
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:04,160
Nordisk the biggest company in Europe.

3533
02:03:04,660 --> 02:03:07,500
It's a Danish company, but the Danish government

3534
02:03:07,500 --> 02:03:08,760
does not recommend it.

3535
02:03:08,860 --> 02:03:11,840
It recommends a change in diet to treat

3536
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:14,160
obesity and exercise.

3537
02:03:14,820 --> 02:03:18,060
Virtually Novo Nordisk's entire value is based upon

3538
02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:20,440
its projections of what Ozempic is going to

3539
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:21,480
sell to Americans.

3540
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,260
For half the price of Ozempic, we could

3541
02:03:24,260 --> 02:03:30,580
purchase regeneratively raised organic agriculture, organic food for

3542
02:03:30,580 --> 02:03:33,520
every American, three meals a day, and gym

3543
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,700
membership for every obese American.

3544
02:03:36,060 --> 02:03:38,180
Why are members of Congress doing the bidding

3545
02:03:38,180 --> 02:03:40,980
of this Danish company instead of standing up

3546
02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:42,740
for American farmers and children?

3547
02:03:43,140 --> 02:03:45,360
Because Novo Nordisk is one of the largest

3548
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:49,420
funders of medical research, the media and politicians

3549
02:03:49,780 --> 02:03:52,680
and the medical schools all go along with

3550
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:52,840
them.

3551
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:54,400
I like the calculation.

3552
02:03:54,660 --> 02:03:56,500
I think we should give away organic food,

3553
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:58,360
three meals a day to everybody and a

3554
02:03:58,360 --> 02:03:59,000
gym membership.

3555
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:00,060
I'm all for that.

3556
02:04:01,580 --> 02:04:02,560
Put it on Medicare.

3557
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:03,820
Here's my Medicare card.

3558
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:04,680
Give me my beef.

3559
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:07,680
Talk is cheap, Bobby.

3560
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:10,000
Get on the stick already.

3561
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:11,740
This, you know, I think there was a

3562
02:04:11,740 --> 02:04:12,480
- Yeah, I actually did.

3563
02:04:12,580 --> 02:04:14,020
I'm with you on this.

3564
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:15,580
Talk is cheap.

3565
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:16,400
Get on the stick.

3566
02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:18,460
The main thing is let's get these advertisers

3567
02:04:18,460 --> 02:04:21,560
off the TV, for starters, which he's been

3568
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:22,580
threatening to do now.

3569
02:04:22,580 --> 02:04:25,080
He came up in the conversation just recently,

3570
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:26,440
but there's still no action.

3571
02:04:28,420 --> 02:04:30,140
Media, of course, won't be too happy about

3572
02:04:30,140 --> 02:04:30,300
it.

3573
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:31,000
Why not?

3574
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:34,100
That's where half their income comes from.

3575
02:04:35,060 --> 02:04:35,580
Oh, the media.

3576
02:04:35,700 --> 02:04:36,360
I thought you said Mimi.

3577
02:04:36,580 --> 02:04:38,120
I'm like, why would Mimi be upset with

3578
02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:38,280
that?

3579
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:41,300
I have screaming Mimis in my brain ever

3580
02:04:41,300 --> 02:04:42,120
since you said it.

3581
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:44,940
Screaming Mimi is a phrase.

3582
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:46,280
Yes, I'd never heard it.

3583
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:47,000
I've learned something.

3584
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:50,220
There's been a rumor going around and people

3585
02:04:50,220 --> 02:04:53,000
like, I think, Zero Hedge even published it.

3586
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:55,820
No, Unusual Whales, there you go.

3587
02:04:56,780 --> 02:04:59,000
There's a rumor that he's gonna do it.

3588
02:04:59,080 --> 02:04:59,760
He's gonna do it.

3589
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:00,900
He's gonna- Gonna do it?

3590
02:05:00,940 --> 02:05:01,840
He's gonna do it.

3591
02:05:01,900 --> 02:05:02,640
He's gonna do it.

3592
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:04,820
He's gonna ban Big Pharma advertising.

3593
02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:07,740
But I think that started with a parody

3594
02:05:07,740 --> 02:05:12,500
account on X, which a lot of people

3595
02:05:12,500 --> 02:05:14,600
- Well, he promised he's gonna do it.

3596
02:05:15,220 --> 02:05:16,280
Was it a true promise?

3597
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:17,880
It's one of the three.

3598
02:05:18,380 --> 02:05:20,760
But let me just, okay, I wanna say

3599
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:21,380
one.

3600
02:05:23,580 --> 02:05:24,380
What was it?

3601
02:05:25,740 --> 02:05:26,180
Advertising.

3602
02:05:29,260 --> 02:05:30,520
Let's listen to it again.

3603
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:32,980
I'm not intimidated by the agencies.

3604
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:34,780
I know how they work and I know

3605
02:05:34,780 --> 02:05:35,560
how to change them.

3606
02:05:35,740 --> 02:05:37,940
And most of those changes you do not

3607
02:05:37,940 --> 02:05:38,960
need Congress for.

3608
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:41,920
The president, President Trump, could have done it,

3609
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:43,280
had the power to do it himself.

3610
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,400
And President Biden has the power to do

3611
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:45,760
it himself.

3612
02:05:45,860 --> 02:05:46,820
And I'll give you an example.

3613
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:50,320
With a stroke of the pen, you can

3614
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:55,640
change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers

3615
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:58,960
to do direct-to-consumer ads on television.

3616
02:05:59,540 --> 02:06:00,740
That's one of the big problems.

3617
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:02,800
That's one of the reasons we have this

3618
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,640
entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because

3619
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:07,820
they control the airwaves, they control the evening

3620
02:06:07,820 --> 02:06:08,260
news.

3621
02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:11,080
75% of the revenues for those evening

3622
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:15,180
news shows are Anderson Cooper is coming from

3623
02:06:15,180 --> 02:06:17,460
Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.

3624
02:06:17,460 --> 02:06:20,500
And those companies are dictating content on those

3625
02:06:20,500 --> 02:06:24,160
shows and they dictate the official narratives.

3626
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:26,800
And I have another clip here where he

3627
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:27,960
talked about it on Rogan.

3628
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:33,880
You know, ambitions have completely subsumed the regulatory

3629
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:35,840
function of those agencies.

3630
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:37,580
And that has to end.

3631
02:06:38,220 --> 02:06:39,360
You know, one of the things that we

3632
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:40,660
need to do too is to get rid

3633
02:06:40,660 --> 02:06:42,520
of pharmaceutical advertising on television.

3634
02:06:43,540 --> 02:06:45,420
There's only two countries in the world that

3635
02:06:45,420 --> 02:06:45,920
allow it.

3636
02:06:46,660 --> 02:06:47,940
One is New Zealand.

3637
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:49,280
The other is our country.

3638
02:06:49,540 --> 02:06:52,080
Everybody who is knowledgeable is against it.

3639
02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:57,920
And it not only has compromised public health.

3640
02:06:58,120 --> 02:06:59,900
We now, we take, largely because of that

3641
02:06:59,900 --> 02:07:03,500
advertising, we take three or four times the

3642
02:07:03,500 --> 02:07:05,440
amount of drugs as Europeans take.

3643
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:07,880
And drugs are the number three killer in

3644
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:08,400
our country.

3645
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:11,920
Pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer

3646
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:12,900
and heart attacks.

3647
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:14,760
They're not making us healthier.

3648
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:18,880
We spend more on healthcare, 4.3 trillion

3649
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,820
in the country and the world in terms

3650
02:07:21,820 --> 02:07:22,840
of our health outcomes.

3651
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:23,580
They're insufferable.

3652
02:07:23,740 --> 02:07:26,560
All of these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is

3653
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:27,720
not making us safe.

3654
02:07:28,380 --> 02:07:30,320
And you know, we changed the rule in

3655
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:31,140
1997.

3656
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:36,660
Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, you

3657
02:07:36,660 --> 02:07:37,980
couldn't advertise on TV.

3658
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:42,660
We changed those rules and FDA allowed the

3659
02:07:42,660 --> 02:07:45,800
pharmaceutical companies to advertise.

3660
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:47,780
And they not only now have a platform

3661
02:07:47,780 --> 02:07:49,900
from which they can tell everybody, you're sick,

3662
02:07:49,940 --> 02:07:51,040
you need this, you need that.

3663
02:07:51,860 --> 02:07:56,300
But also they are able to dictate content

3664
02:07:56,300 --> 02:07:57,380
on television.

3665
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:01,480
So they can dictate content on the local

3666
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:01,580
news.

3667
02:08:01,580 --> 02:08:02,260
And on YouTube.

3668
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:03,980
Yeah, of course.

3669
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:08,040
Okay, well, get to it, Bobby.

3670
02:08:09,100 --> 02:08:09,860
Yeah, we're waiting.

3671
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,180
Yeah, because then we can finally get some

3672
02:08:12,180 --> 02:08:13,980
big pharma ads on the podcast.

3673
02:08:15,500 --> 02:08:18,700
Oh, John, I just got my Ozempic.

3674
02:08:18,820 --> 02:08:19,760
I'm feeling great.

3675
02:08:19,900 --> 02:08:21,840
I'm down 8,000 pounds.

3676
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:25,120
I heard a drug advertised on the radio

3677
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:29,420
the other day, like Restora or something.

3678
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:32,820
They have some of the more recent ones.

3679
02:08:32,920 --> 02:08:34,360
I would guess they're recording some of these

3680
02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:38,040
because they're pushing a lot of drugs onto

3681
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:39,740
the TV that I've never heard of.

3682
02:08:39,740 --> 02:08:41,420
They're all new and they got the worst

3683
02:08:41,420 --> 02:08:42,440
side effects.

3684
02:08:42,740 --> 02:08:44,960
Yeah, well, sorry.

3685
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:47,020
And the worst names, the names are really

3686
02:08:47,020 --> 02:08:48,780
bad and the side effects are just off,

3687
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:50,420
they're wild.

3688
02:08:50,980 --> 02:08:52,600
Let me think what this was called.

3689
02:08:54,060 --> 02:08:57,300
It restores your muscle mass when you're on

3690
02:08:57,300 --> 02:08:59,380
GLP-1 drugs.

3691
02:09:00,820 --> 02:09:04,320
Wow, it's called steroids.

3692
02:09:04,500 --> 02:09:08,220
No, no, no, no, it's, what was it

3693
02:09:08,220 --> 02:09:08,680
called?

3694
02:09:09,740 --> 02:09:12,020
I think it was called, it was something

3695
02:09:12,020 --> 02:09:12,900
like Restora.

3696
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:16,800
Do you like being thin, but your legs

3697
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:17,340
are breaking?

3698
02:09:17,620 --> 02:09:18,740
We've got Restora.

3699
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:21,560
Oh man, it's so bad.

3700
02:09:21,900 --> 02:09:23,820
And that was kind of my point when

3701
02:09:23,820 --> 02:09:24,940
I saw the card.

3702
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:26,700
You know, it's like, get your Botox, get

3703
02:09:26,700 --> 02:09:28,060
your lip fillers.

3704
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,740
So they gave you a, okay, this is

3705
02:09:31,740 --> 02:09:32,820
like a shaggy dog story.

3706
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:34,020
I should have taken it with me.

3707
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:36,560
We're back at, you didn't take the card

3708
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:37,080
with you?

3709
02:09:37,180 --> 02:09:37,620
No.

3710
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:39,360
It's got a cute one.

3711
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:40,700
Oh, wait a minute, you go on and

3712
02:09:40,700 --> 02:09:42,020
on about how great it is to go

3713
02:09:42,020 --> 02:09:42,740
to the Austin.

3714
02:09:42,940 --> 02:09:44,360
It's always worth the price of admission.

3715
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:46,820
You give me grief for just even suggesting

3716
02:09:46,820 --> 02:09:48,440
anything and then you leave the card?

3717
02:09:48,820 --> 02:09:51,040
I know, I feel very bad about that.

3718
02:09:51,340 --> 02:09:51,940
You should.

3719
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:54,460
Inject, here, maybe I can find it.

3720
02:09:55,260 --> 02:09:56,860
Injection nurse, Austin.

3721
02:09:57,340 --> 02:09:58,580
This, but this, so they put it.

3722
02:09:58,580 --> 02:10:01,540
So there's an injection nurse at your hairdresser.

3723
02:10:01,900 --> 02:10:05,800
Well, she comes in and here, 63 nurse

3724
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,100
injector jobs available in Austin, Texas.

3725
02:10:08,100 --> 02:10:12,720
This is, wow, $29 to $56 an hour

3726
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,020
injection nurse jobs in Austin.

3727
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:15,880
No hiring!

3728
02:10:17,260 --> 02:10:17,620
Wow.

3729
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:19,480
It's called an aesthetic nurse.

3730
02:10:20,860 --> 02:10:23,200
So they come in in Botox gel or

3731
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:25,240
give you some GLP-1 in the gut?

3732
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:27,200
Yep, well, that's the upsell.

3733
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:27,980
What else can they give you?

3734
02:10:28,060 --> 02:10:29,760
Shoot you up with steroids?

3735
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:31,620
Or can they do anything else that's worthwhile?

3736
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:34,720
Well, I think that's the upsell is the,

3737
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,280
the nurse, the Austin nurse is an, this

3738
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:41,000
is the Austin nurse, concierge injection specialist.

3739
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:42,620
It's concierge.

3740
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:44,180
Concierge, I love that.

3741
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:44,840
Here we go.

3742
02:10:45,380 --> 02:10:49,060
The Austin nurse is an experienced injection specialist

3743
02:10:49,060 --> 02:10:52,920
committed to providing excellence in concierge injection administration

3744
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:53,520
and training.

3745
02:10:53,920 --> 02:11:00,360
We provide help with fertility medications, anticoagulants, semiglutides

3746
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:04,180
like Ozempic, blood glucose and insulin injectors and

3747
02:11:04,180 --> 02:11:04,680
more!

3748
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,740
Yeah, so she'll come to your house.

3749
02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:10,320
She's got a blog.

3750
02:11:10,780 --> 02:11:11,100
Nice.

3751
02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:14,780
Yeah, but this is, this is, this is

3752
02:11:14,780 --> 02:11:15,120
the thing.

3753
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:16,300
This is what people are doing.

3754
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:19,680
Is they do, you've heard of Botox parties,

3755
02:11:19,780 --> 02:11:20,180
certainly.

3756
02:11:21,100 --> 02:11:21,280
No.

3757
02:11:23,220 --> 02:11:23,660
Yeah.

3758
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:26,240
Women actually talk in MLs.

3759
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:29,920
How many MLs did you get as in

3760
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:30,780
milliliters?

3761
02:11:31,140 --> 02:11:32,280
Yeah, it'd be milliliter.

3762
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:32,600
Yeah.

3763
02:11:32,660 --> 02:11:33,480
How many MLs?

3764
02:11:33,500 --> 02:11:34,660
Oh, I got 10 MLs.

3765
02:11:34,660 --> 02:11:35,920
What do you charge per ML?

3766
02:11:36,300 --> 02:11:39,100
Oh, it's only $79 per ML.

3767
02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:41,420
It's, it's sad.

3768
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:43,420
All women are fake.

3769
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:46,640
Not a single one is un-Botoxed.

3770
02:11:48,620 --> 02:11:49,720
I'm just guessing.

3771
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:53,120
I think there's plenty of un-Botoxed gals

3772
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:53,720
out there.

3773
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:55,080
Yeah, do you, what do you think about

3774
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:55,900
Pam Bondage?

3775
02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:59,320
Oh, she's definitely got Botox in the forehead.

3776
02:11:59,900 --> 02:12:01,540
Do you ever see her raise her eyebrows?

3777
02:12:01,600 --> 02:12:01,800
Nope.

3778
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:02,000
Ever?

3779
02:12:02,180 --> 02:12:02,540
Nope.

3780
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:04,520
Even when she said, top guy!

3781
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:06,280
The eyebrows did not move.

3782
02:12:06,340 --> 02:12:07,160
You're the top guy.

3783
02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:08,680
Top guy.

3784
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:10,420
Yeah, with that, I want to thank you

3785
02:12:10,420 --> 02:12:10,960
for your courage.

3786
02:12:11,060 --> 02:12:12,320
Say in the morning to you, the man

3787
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:14,300
who put the C in shaking the chain.

3788
02:12:14,420 --> 02:12:15,680
Say hello to my friend on the other

3789
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:15,860
end.

3790
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,420
The one, the only, the legendary Mr. John

3791
02:12:18,420 --> 02:12:19,000
C.

3792
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:19,580
DeMora!

3793
02:12:23,700 --> 02:12:24,060
Hi!

3794
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:24,880
Hi!

3795
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:26,460
Are there any more ship sequencing, graphing the

3796
02:12:26,460 --> 02:12:27,580
air subs in the water than the dames

3797
02:12:27,580 --> 02:12:28,240
and knights out there?

3798
02:12:28,260 --> 02:12:29,740
In the morning to the trolls in the

3799
02:12:29,740 --> 02:12:31,360
troll room, we had you for a second.

3800
02:12:34,500 --> 02:12:36,820
We may not make another four years, John.

3801
02:12:37,180 --> 02:12:38,940
Only $18.90 today.

3802
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:41,320
That's average to me.

3803
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:43,820
That, it's, you are, your numbers are off

3804
02:12:43,820 --> 02:12:45,520
because ever since you started giving me crap

3805
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:46,920
about it, I started tracking it.

3806
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,400
Our last- $18 is the classic and

3807
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:51,620
$24 on Sunday.

3808
02:12:51,620 --> 02:12:55,200
No, the last 100 show average is $19

3809
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:57,780
.04. Yeah, well, that's not the number I've

3810
02:12:57,780 --> 02:12:58,300
ever heard.

3811
02:12:58,620 --> 02:13:00,620
Yeah, but I'm looking at the numbers, baby.

3812
02:13:01,100 --> 02:13:01,740
I got the numbers.

3813
02:13:01,980 --> 02:13:03,920
Yeah, you got numbers, but they're not the

3814
02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:05,820
numbers you've been reading for the last 10

3815
02:13:05,820 --> 02:13:06,280
years.

3816
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:06,920
Yes.

3817
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:08,880
When you do the numbers, you can go

3818
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:10,660
back and listen to the past shows.

3819
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:13,500
It's $1,600, $1,700, $1,800, $1

3820
02:13:13,500 --> 02:13:14,460
,800, $1,800.

3821
02:13:14,740 --> 02:13:16,680
The number of times you've said $1,900

3822
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:18,960
for a Thursday show is so low.

3823
02:13:19,020 --> 02:13:21,720
It's like maybe once every few months, but

3824
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:22,880
somehow it's the average.

3825
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:26,660
I call bogus.

3826
02:13:28,820 --> 02:13:30,400
You can call whatever you want.

3827
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:31,920
Bogus.

3828
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:40,740
Speaking of old shows, I have a throwback.

3829
02:13:42,140 --> 02:13:44,460
You want to do a special bonus clip?

3830
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:46,200
Sure.

3831
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:47,740
And this is, well, and then I have

3832
02:13:47,740 --> 02:13:48,840
to play this, it's two clips.

3833
02:13:48,940 --> 02:13:50,340
I have to play the setup clip first.

3834
02:13:51,540 --> 02:13:53,980
And the setup clip is something that we

3835
02:13:53,980 --> 02:13:54,980
all probably heard about.

3836
02:13:55,640 --> 02:14:00,240
A year from now, 23andMe will be, a

3837
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:02,280
year from now, 23andMe will be growing and

3838
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:02,620
thriving.

3839
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:06,100
Five years from now, 23andMe will transform healthcare.

3840
02:14:07,700 --> 02:14:10,200
That was Anne Wojcicki, CEO of the genetic

3841
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:11,660
testing company 23andMe.

3842
02:14:11,780 --> 02:14:13,400
She told us that back in November, and

3843
02:14:13,400 --> 02:14:15,720
now there's word that Anne has resigned and

3844
02:14:15,720 --> 02:14:17,820
23andMe has filed for bankruptcy protection.

3845
02:14:18,420 --> 02:14:19,920
Nancy Chin is here with what this means

3846
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:20,480
for customers.

3847
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:22,080
Nancy, when I woke up to this news

3848
02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:24,860
this morning, I was so sad and disappointed

3849
02:14:24,860 --> 02:14:26,340
to hear it because I know how hard

3850
02:14:26,340 --> 02:14:27,960
Anne worked and I know how much she

3851
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:28,700
loves this company.

3852
02:14:28,920 --> 02:14:30,400
And there's a lot of customers who have

3853
02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:32,120
also loved it for a long time.

3854
02:14:32,300 --> 02:14:34,660
So big surprising news for many, but the

3855
02:14:34,660 --> 02:14:34,800
DNC won't tell you.

3856
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:38,540
No one loved the company for a long

3857
02:14:38,540 --> 02:14:38,940
time.

3858
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:40,600
I love 23andMe.

3859
02:14:40,700 --> 02:14:41,640
I love this company.

3860
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:44,280
I use their services all the time, every

3861
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:44,880
couple of weeks.

3862
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:46,080
I love this company.

3863
02:14:46,180 --> 02:14:46,860
It makes no sense.

3864
02:14:47,260 --> 02:14:48,960
And there's a lot of customers who have

3865
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:50,720
also loved it for a long time.

3866
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:53,220
So big surprising news for many, but the

3867
02:14:53,220 --> 02:14:56,680
DNA testing company 23andMe has been facing serious

3868
02:14:56,680 --> 02:14:58,240
financial challenges for months now.

3869
02:14:58,580 --> 02:15:01,600
Last fall, it announced major corporate restructuring and

3870
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:03,820
that's when concerns of what could happen to

3871
02:15:03,820 --> 02:15:05,860
users' data started surfacing.

3872
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:08,800
On Friday, the Attorney General of California, where

3873
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:13,600
23andMe's headquarter urged customers to request their information

3874
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:14,440
be purged.

3875
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:17,200
He says they should consider invoking their rights

3876
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:20,020
and directing the company to delete their data

3877
02:15:20,020 --> 02:15:23,000
and destroy samples of their genetic material.

3878
02:15:23,420 --> 02:15:25,420
He said, if 23andMe were involved in a

3879
02:15:25,420 --> 02:15:28,720
bankruptcy, merger, or sale, personal data may also

3880
02:15:28,720 --> 02:15:29,800
be sold or transferred.

3881
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:33,340
No, say it ain't so, really.

3882
02:15:35,340 --> 02:15:37,940
Episode 599 of the best podcast in the

3883
02:15:37,940 --> 02:15:40,820
universe, September 29th, 2013, is when we gave

3884
02:15:40,820 --> 02:15:43,280
our first of many warnings about this.

3885
02:15:43,380 --> 02:15:45,200
Here's what I want you to be cognizant

3886
02:15:45,200 --> 02:15:45,540
of.

3887
02:15:46,140 --> 02:15:49,400
When you sign up for 23andMe and you

3888
02:15:49,400 --> 02:15:52,240
get on your little social network and sharing

3889
02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:55,660
your little genetic defects, be wary as to

3890
02:15:55,660 --> 02:15:57,140
who else has that information.

3891
02:15:57,420 --> 02:15:59,380
And at some point in the future, Bill

3892
02:15:59,380 --> 02:16:02,020
Gates might be going, well, we really don't

3893
02:16:02,020 --> 02:16:02,500
want to.

3894
02:16:02,500 --> 02:16:03,040
Is that you?

3895
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:04,040
Yes, that's me.

3896
02:16:04,300 --> 02:16:05,300
What a muddy mic.

3897
02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:05,980
This is dangerous.

3898
02:16:06,580 --> 02:16:09,760
Well, to be fair, it was 12 years

3899
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:10,060
ago.

3900
02:16:10,460 --> 02:16:12,580
I didn't have the great mic that we

3901
02:16:12,580 --> 02:16:14,260
soon will be selling to everybody.

3902
02:16:14,260 --> 02:16:16,520
You walked right into that one, pal.

3903
02:16:16,860 --> 02:16:17,220
I did.

3904
02:16:17,600 --> 02:16:18,520
Why don't you just throw it?

3905
02:16:18,740 --> 02:16:20,680
Here, let me get a couple more softballs

3906
02:16:20,680 --> 02:16:21,660
here to toss you.

3907
02:16:21,820 --> 02:16:22,540
How about a book?

3908
02:16:22,740 --> 02:16:23,360
How about a book?

3909
02:16:28,360 --> 02:16:30,340
Or just the website, since we're doing a

3910
02:16:30,340 --> 02:16:31,520
donation segment.

3911
02:16:31,700 --> 02:16:33,559
Dvorak.org slash an A is not where

3912
02:16:33,559 --> 02:16:34,059
you want to go.

3913
02:16:34,139 --> 02:16:35,180
You want to go to- You can

3914
02:16:35,180 --> 02:16:35,540
go there.

3915
02:16:35,660 --> 02:16:37,299
It's got stuff you can check on.

3916
02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:38,540
It's got outdated links.

3917
02:16:38,700 --> 02:16:41,040
It's got the PayPal links don't work anymore.

3918
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:41,480
Come on.

3919
02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:43,480
Okay, I'm fixing that site tomorrow.

3920
02:16:47,930 --> 02:16:49,469
If you don't fix it- I doubt

3921
02:16:49,469 --> 02:16:49,730
you, Thomas.

3922
02:16:50,690 --> 02:16:51,490
There you go.

3923
02:16:51,930 --> 02:16:53,490
I will stick my finger in the holes.

3924
02:16:54,389 --> 02:16:56,110
If it's not fixed, I'm not doing a

3925
02:16:56,110 --> 02:16:56,330
show.

3926
02:16:56,469 --> 02:16:56,809
That's it.

3927
02:16:56,910 --> 02:16:57,350
I'm done.

3928
02:16:57,530 --> 02:16:58,709
I'm boycotting the show.

3929
02:16:58,850 --> 02:16:59,850
If you don't fix the website.

3930
02:17:02,270 --> 02:17:03,990
Thank you, trolls who are hanging out in

3931
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:04,570
the troll room.

3932
02:17:06,950 --> 02:17:08,730
Everyone's writing it down in their own red

3933
02:17:08,730 --> 02:17:09,070
books.

3934
02:17:09,290 --> 02:17:10,070
Yeah, there you go.

3935
02:17:11,090 --> 02:17:14,209
The trolls are listening at trollroom.io or

3936
02:17:14,209 --> 02:17:15,830
perhaps they are even on one of those

3937
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:19,209
modern podcast apps, which are quite swanky indeed.

3938
02:17:19,370 --> 02:17:20,830
You can- Swanky.

3939
02:17:20,850 --> 02:17:21,770
They're very swanky.

3940
02:17:22,010 --> 02:17:24,250
People are like, wow, what app is that?

3941
02:17:25,129 --> 02:17:27,870
Oh, that's my modern podcast app, of course.

3942
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:29,049
Oh, that's beautiful.

3943
02:17:29,809 --> 02:17:30,469
What does it do?

3944
02:17:30,889 --> 02:17:33,030
Well, it alerts me when my favorite shows

3945
02:17:33,030 --> 02:17:36,190
go live, including the Noah Jenner stream.

3946
02:17:36,430 --> 02:17:37,490
And you can listen to it live in

3947
02:17:37,490 --> 02:17:37,709
the app.

3948
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:38,230
What?

3949
02:17:38,730 --> 02:17:40,129
You can do that in that app, in

3950
02:17:40,129 --> 02:17:40,930
a podcast app?

3951
02:17:40,990 --> 02:17:41,330
Oh yeah.

3952
02:17:41,889 --> 02:17:45,730
And when my favorite podcasts, when they publish

3953
02:17:45,730 --> 02:17:49,129
a show within 90 seconds, I know exactly

3954
02:17:49,129 --> 02:17:49,670
that it's there.

3955
02:17:49,790 --> 02:17:50,510
Boom, I get an alert.

3956
02:17:50,870 --> 02:17:51,209
What?

3957
02:17:51,330 --> 02:17:53,549
I'm on Apple and sometimes it takes hours.

3958
02:17:54,530 --> 02:17:56,250
That's why you want to go to podcastapps

3959
02:17:56,250 --> 02:17:57,070
.com, everybody.

3960
02:17:57,430 --> 02:17:59,430
It's enhancements brought to you by the friendly

3961
02:17:59,430 --> 02:18:01,230
folks at podcastindex.org.

3962
02:18:02,889 --> 02:18:05,190
Value for value is how we continue to

3963
02:18:05,190 --> 02:18:09,670
somehow muddle through our last four years, or

3964
02:18:09,670 --> 02:18:11,209
our four more years, I should say.

3965
02:18:11,549 --> 02:18:13,889
People send me links like, you said that

3966
02:18:13,889 --> 02:18:15,570
when Trump won the first time.

3967
02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:18,940
That's correct.

3968
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:21,440
But now we mean it for real, four

3969
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:21,920
more years.

3970
02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:28,440
And so we don't have ads, although people

3971
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:30,580
have found some interesting loopholes in our system.

3972
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:33,459
Yes, they have loopholes indeed.

3973
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:34,799
Some really good loopholes.

3974
02:18:34,879 --> 02:18:37,040
People are like, hey man, I'm making a

3975
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:39,040
killing on my business through that Noah Jenner

3976
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:39,379
show.

3977
02:18:39,459 --> 02:18:40,340
It's fantastic.

3978
02:18:40,340 --> 02:18:41,379
Here's what you do.

3979
02:18:41,940 --> 02:18:46,459
You become an executive producer or sadly, chief

3980
02:18:46,459 --> 02:18:48,080
associate executive producers.

3981
02:18:48,760 --> 02:18:52,340
Chief associate, yeah, yeah.

3982
02:18:53,500 --> 02:18:55,480
The loophole is phenomenal.

3983
02:18:56,299 --> 02:18:57,280
I love it.

3984
02:18:58,879 --> 02:19:00,799
And now the way you can support the

3985
02:19:00,799 --> 02:19:02,440
show is multi-pronged.

3986
02:19:02,459 --> 02:19:04,780
You can support us with your time, your

3987
02:19:04,780 --> 02:19:05,940
talent, or your treasure.

3988
02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:10,299
And time and talent, people send clip ideas,

3989
02:19:10,580 --> 02:19:12,680
it always helps when they send time codes.

3990
02:19:12,740 --> 02:19:14,180
That's really highly appreciated.

3991
02:19:15,740 --> 02:19:19,660
People do organized meetups, they do jingles and

3992
02:19:19,660 --> 02:19:20,400
show mixes.

3993
02:19:20,660 --> 02:19:21,940
There's tons of stuff that people do.

3994
02:19:22,260 --> 02:19:23,480
Run servers for us everywhere.

3995
02:19:23,620 --> 02:19:27,020
Servers are running everywhere, like noagendaartgenerator.com, which

3996
02:19:27,020 --> 02:19:28,940
is where you can upload.

3997
02:19:29,160 --> 02:19:31,620
And it's had its ups and downs throughout

3998
02:19:31,620 --> 02:19:34,600
the years, but generally, I don't have to

3999
02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:35,260
maintain it.

4000
02:19:36,360 --> 02:19:37,959
I'd say it's a good deal for us.

4001
02:19:38,100 --> 02:19:39,740
We don't have to hire someone to maintain

4002
02:19:39,740 --> 02:19:40,080
it.

4003
02:19:40,719 --> 02:19:42,940
And then we have the artists themselves who

4004
02:19:42,940 --> 02:19:44,240
create this artwork for us.

4005
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:46,200
And then we use that to draw attention

4006
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:46,799
to the show.

4007
02:19:47,160 --> 02:19:49,700
It makes us look fresh every single time.

4008
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:52,260
And we looked funky fresh with the artwork

4009
02:19:52,260 --> 02:19:54,020
for episode 1749.

4010
02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:57,160
We titled that show Gynocracy, or as I

4011
02:19:57,160 --> 02:19:58,360
like to say, Gynocracy.

4012
02:19:58,780 --> 02:20:01,280
And it was Sir Shug, AKA Faux Diddly,

4013
02:20:01,340 --> 02:20:03,240
who came in with the winning piece that

4014
02:20:03,240 --> 02:20:03,600
we picked.

4015
02:20:04,780 --> 02:20:09,440
The Flexiblize, live from Ursula Studios, which was,

4016
02:20:09,540 --> 02:20:10,940
it was a poppy piece.

4017
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:15,000
You know, it was definitely related to the

4018
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:15,240
show.

4019
02:20:15,700 --> 02:20:17,260
And it popped all kinds of, you know,

4020
02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:18,780
boys and girls dancing.

4021
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:19,640
You know, there were Flexiblize.

4022
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:21,020
Did you get the note from the woman

4023
02:20:21,020 --> 02:20:23,620
who used to be a jazzercise person and

4024
02:20:23,620 --> 02:20:24,600
sent the original art?

4025
02:20:25,380 --> 02:20:25,740
No.

4026
02:20:26,660 --> 02:20:30,160
Oh yeah, one of our producers had something

4027
02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:31,860
to do with the original art, which was

4028
02:20:31,860 --> 02:20:33,460
jazzercise.

4029
02:20:34,020 --> 02:20:34,120
Really?

4030
02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:36,500
It had the same dancers, only they were

4031
02:20:36,500 --> 02:20:38,480
kind of different, slightly different.

4032
02:20:38,740 --> 02:20:39,140
No way.

4033
02:20:39,160 --> 02:20:40,480
And the same basic logo.

4034
02:20:40,620 --> 02:20:41,600
This is where it came from.

4035
02:20:41,880 --> 02:20:43,260
Oh, so it's a ripoff.

4036
02:20:44,380 --> 02:20:45,560
It's a ripoff.

4037
02:20:45,940 --> 02:20:47,360
She thought it was a compliment.

4038
02:20:47,780 --> 02:20:48,960
Well, of course it's a compliment.

4039
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:50,300
That's so cool.

4040
02:20:50,620 --> 02:20:52,420
But it was a ripoff, but I'm wondering

4041
02:20:52,420 --> 02:20:55,800
whether Sir Shug developed it by hand.

4042
02:20:55,860 --> 02:20:57,340
Because to do a ripoff, you have to

4043
02:20:57,340 --> 02:20:58,800
have the original, and then you develop a

4044
02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:00,820
kind of a copy of it, or AI

4045
02:21:00,820 --> 02:21:02,300
actually copied it.

4046
02:21:02,340 --> 02:21:03,060
Could be, could be, could be.

4047
02:21:05,290 --> 02:21:06,950
I got an AI story for you for

4048
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:07,250
later.

4049
02:21:07,550 --> 02:21:08,690
Yeah, I saw you have AI clips.

4050
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:09,550
I have a couple AI clips.

4051
02:21:09,690 --> 02:21:09,930
Good.

4052
02:21:10,090 --> 02:21:12,010
You do your clips, I'll bring the story.

4053
02:21:12,250 --> 02:21:13,490
I don't know about that.

4054
02:21:13,610 --> 02:21:14,090
Yeah, I do.

4055
02:21:14,470 --> 02:21:15,230
I'm in control.

4056
02:21:15,330 --> 02:21:16,070
Who's driving?

4057
02:21:16,250 --> 02:21:18,150
You're like the DEI hire on this show.

4058
02:21:18,310 --> 02:21:19,610
I'm the shotgun.

4059
02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:21,370
You're the DEI hire.

4060
02:21:21,710 --> 02:21:22,870
I'm the DEI guy.

4061
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:24,330
Shut up.

4062
02:21:25,610 --> 02:21:26,530
No laughing.

4063
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:27,550
No laughing.

4064
02:21:29,730 --> 02:21:30,970
So we appreciate that.

4065
02:21:30,970 --> 02:21:32,290
Of course, we use many of the pieces

4066
02:21:32,290 --> 02:21:34,730
of art for our chapter artwork, which Dreb

4067
02:21:34,730 --> 02:21:37,050
Scott diligently does for every single show.

4068
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:38,290
We appreciate that very much.

4069
02:21:38,570 --> 02:21:40,030
We looked at a couple other things.

4070
02:21:40,810 --> 02:21:43,930
Creepy was Helmet Hair by Blue Acorn, which

4071
02:21:43,930 --> 02:21:45,030
was Ursula.

4072
02:21:45,150 --> 02:21:47,690
That was an AI job, but that was

4073
02:21:47,690 --> 02:21:49,150
pretty interesting how it turned out.

4074
02:21:50,370 --> 02:21:54,030
Yes, everybody liked to harangue me about, oh,

4075
02:21:54,150 --> 02:21:55,790
The Hague is the new Dutch capital.

4076
02:21:56,410 --> 02:21:57,470
It's not Amsterdam.

4077
02:21:57,790 --> 02:21:59,110
That's actually contentious.

4078
02:22:00,970 --> 02:22:02,790
We talked about it after the show.

4079
02:22:03,710 --> 02:22:05,250
It's not a pure capital.

4080
02:22:05,390 --> 02:22:05,590
What was that?

4081
02:22:05,710 --> 02:22:07,070
It was like a- No, it turns

4082
02:22:07,070 --> 02:22:09,050
out that there's two capitals of Holland.

4083
02:22:09,150 --> 02:22:09,490
Yes.

4084
02:22:10,470 --> 02:22:12,330
And it turns out, and then we also

4085
02:22:12,330 --> 02:22:14,070
did a little research after the show, and

4086
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:17,070
it turns out that there's about 10 countries

4087
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:19,630
that have dual capitals.

4088
02:22:19,890 --> 02:22:22,970
Because the technical description of a capital is

4089
02:22:22,970 --> 02:22:24,710
where the government has its seat.

4090
02:22:26,630 --> 02:22:27,790
Oh, that was the term.

4091
02:22:27,910 --> 02:22:29,390
It was a strange term.

4092
02:22:31,570 --> 02:22:32,690
Yeah, we looked at it.

4093
02:22:32,690 --> 02:22:34,650
I think we used AI to do the

4094
02:22:34,650 --> 02:22:35,290
research.

4095
02:22:35,890 --> 02:22:36,290
Really?

4096
02:22:36,790 --> 02:22:37,670
Well, then I don't trust you.

4097
02:22:38,010 --> 02:22:39,010
I think you used Chad GPT.

4098
02:22:39,210 --> 02:22:40,670
You remember what you're talking about.

4099
02:22:40,730 --> 02:22:41,830
You're always doing that.

4100
02:22:42,170 --> 02:22:43,630
That's exactly what I want to talk about

4101
02:22:43,630 --> 02:22:44,990
when you play your AI clips.

4102
02:22:47,530 --> 02:22:48,510
There was a term.

4103
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:49,850
I can't remember what the term was.

4104
02:22:51,010 --> 02:22:53,530
Yeah, so yeah, Holland has two capitals.

4105
02:22:53,530 --> 02:22:55,910
The origin of this capital confusion goes back

4106
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:56,530
to the Middle Ages.

4107
02:22:56,730 --> 02:22:57,970
Back then, The Hague was the seat of

4108
02:22:57,970 --> 02:22:59,350
the government for the country of Holland and

4109
02:22:59,350 --> 02:23:00,050
the courts of Holland.

4110
02:23:00,170 --> 02:23:03,470
Amsterdam was just your ordinary up-and-coming

4111
02:23:03,470 --> 02:23:04,770
center of trade.

4112
02:23:07,810 --> 02:23:08,770
Anyway, fine.

4113
02:23:09,130 --> 02:23:10,230
All right, fine, everybody.

4114
02:23:10,330 --> 02:23:11,170
Do funny artwork.

4115
02:23:11,290 --> 02:23:11,690
I'm good.

4116
02:23:12,110 --> 02:23:13,430
I'll say I was wrong.

4117
02:23:13,710 --> 02:23:14,430
I'll say I was wrong.

4118
02:23:14,650 --> 02:23:15,290
You were wrong.

4119
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:18,770
Technically, the capital is where the government seats.

4120
02:23:20,930 --> 02:23:22,050
What else did we have?

4121
02:23:22,210 --> 02:23:24,490
There was deepfake nudes.

4122
02:23:25,010 --> 02:23:26,990
No, there was E-meter girls.

4123
02:23:27,070 --> 02:23:27,730
Got a nice note.

4124
02:23:27,730 --> 02:23:29,570
We got a couple of notes from Scientologists.

4125
02:23:29,730 --> 02:23:30,670
Hello, Scientologists.

4126
02:23:31,070 --> 02:23:33,230
Yeah, we have a number of Scientologists that

4127
02:23:33,230 --> 02:23:35,610
were chuckling about our E-mail.

4128
02:23:36,530 --> 02:23:40,030
Even the producer who gave us the E

4129
02:23:40,030 --> 02:23:41,150
-meters, he still listens.

4130
02:23:41,290 --> 02:23:41,870
I love that.

4131
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:43,330
Yeah, I think that's funny.

4132
02:23:43,710 --> 02:23:46,210
Yeah, the thing is, he turns out, we

4133
02:23:46,210 --> 02:23:49,150
didn't mention this necessarily, but I forgot about

4134
02:23:49,150 --> 02:23:49,330
it.

4135
02:23:49,430 --> 02:23:51,690
He says his dad was a big shot

4136
02:23:51,690 --> 02:23:53,450
in Scientology and he had a bunch of

4137
02:23:53,450 --> 02:23:55,590
these E-meters and he couldn't sell them,

4138
02:23:55,670 --> 02:23:57,570
get rid of them after his dad died,

4139
02:23:57,890 --> 02:23:59,490
because if you try to sell them on

4140
02:23:59,490 --> 02:24:02,450
eBay, the Scientology community goes after you and

4141
02:24:02,450 --> 02:24:03,610
makes your life miserable.

4142
02:24:03,850 --> 02:24:04,250
Oh, no.

4143
02:24:04,370 --> 02:24:05,810
They knock on your door and say, hey.

4144
02:24:07,490 --> 02:24:08,730
Don't give away our technology.

4145
02:24:08,730 --> 02:24:09,710
And so the guy says, hell with it.

4146
02:24:09,730 --> 02:24:11,490
I'll just send them to these two bozos.

4147
02:24:11,750 --> 02:24:12,990
And so he sends us a couple of

4148
02:24:12,990 --> 02:24:13,750
these E-meters.

4149
02:24:13,850 --> 02:24:14,750
And we still have them.

4150
02:24:15,130 --> 02:24:16,190
We still have them.

4151
02:24:16,290 --> 02:24:16,910
We didn't reach.

4152
02:24:19,010 --> 02:24:20,390
I'm using them all the time.

4153
02:24:20,650 --> 02:24:23,090
So I got another note from another Scientologist

4154
02:24:23,090 --> 02:24:25,210
who made the point, he said, you should

4155
02:24:25,210 --> 02:24:28,950
charge the E-meter to make the battery

4156
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:31,090
last longer, because we probably haven't charged the

4157
02:24:31,090 --> 02:24:31,470
thing ever.

4158
02:24:31,690 --> 02:24:32,550
No, I have not.

4159
02:24:33,370 --> 02:24:34,350
Oh, I should do that.

4160
02:24:34,590 --> 02:24:37,390
Also, I got another note from, and I

4161
02:24:37,390 --> 02:24:40,150
shouldn't say he's a Scientologist, but people who

4162
02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:44,090
are members of the Church of Scientology and

4163
02:24:44,090 --> 02:24:45,730
said- So that would be a Scientologist?

4164
02:24:46,370 --> 02:24:49,550
Yeah, well, that's not how he introduced himself.

4165
02:24:50,310 --> 02:24:51,770
And he said, you have a lot of,

4166
02:24:53,310 --> 02:24:54,390
okay, I'll use your term.

4167
02:24:54,390 --> 02:24:56,050
You have a lot of Scientologists listening to

4168
02:24:56,050 --> 02:24:58,570
the show because there's a big crossover with

4169
02:24:58,570 --> 02:25:03,930
you guys between your stance on vaccines, et

4170
02:25:03,930 --> 02:25:05,990
cetera, other pharmaceutical products.

4171
02:25:07,370 --> 02:25:08,590
Then there was something else.

4172
02:25:08,830 --> 02:25:11,510
Your desire to have tax-free income, I

4173
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:12,450
think, was the other thing.

4174
02:25:12,550 --> 02:25:12,990
I'm not sure.

4175
02:25:13,650 --> 02:25:15,730
It was something like that.

4176
02:25:15,870 --> 02:25:16,530
It makes sense.

4177
02:25:16,670 --> 02:25:18,630
So hello, hello, Scientologists.

4178
02:25:18,750 --> 02:25:19,150
You're welcome.

4179
02:25:20,050 --> 02:25:21,090
Everybody's welcome here.

4180
02:25:21,710 --> 02:25:21,930
Yeah.

4181
02:25:22,210 --> 02:25:23,870
Yeah, we've never had a problem with anybody.

4182
02:25:23,870 --> 02:25:26,350
At least we got some free E-meters.

4183
02:25:26,830 --> 02:25:30,570
Hey, it beats a punch in the head.

4184
02:25:31,850 --> 02:25:32,130
Free E-meter.

4185
02:25:32,490 --> 02:25:33,750
Like I said to the guy, I got

4186
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:34,910
the E-meter, but we didn't get the

4187
02:25:34,910 --> 02:25:35,730
pretty girl with it.

4188
02:25:36,030 --> 02:25:37,290
So what are you gonna do?

4189
02:25:37,430 --> 02:25:38,190
That's what it was.

4190
02:25:39,430 --> 02:25:41,410
So thank you very much, Sir Shug, aka

4191
02:25:41,410 --> 02:25:42,190
Foe Diddley.

4192
02:25:42,250 --> 02:25:44,590
We appreciate your support of the show, as

4193
02:25:44,590 --> 02:25:44,970
always.

4194
02:25:45,370 --> 02:25:47,190
And that brings us to our executive and

4195
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:48,370
associate executive producers.

4196
02:25:48,450 --> 02:25:50,090
We'd like to thank them separately, just like

4197
02:25:50,090 --> 02:25:50,810
Hollywood does.

4198
02:25:51,210 --> 02:25:52,650
You know, I watched another movie.

4199
02:25:52,650 --> 02:25:54,970
I watched the Flight Risk, which is Mark

4200
02:25:54,970 --> 02:25:55,530
Wahlberg.

4201
02:25:56,730 --> 02:25:58,630
And- Is this another movie you watch

4202
02:25:58,630 --> 02:26:00,410
without Tina because she doesn't watch these kinds

4203
02:26:00,410 --> 02:26:00,830
of movies?

4204
02:26:01,070 --> 02:26:03,890
No, she, the last Wahlberg movie I watched

4205
02:26:03,890 --> 02:26:04,630
was pretty dumb.

4206
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:06,950
So I think if I had suggested another

4207
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:09,030
one, she might not have gone for it.

4208
02:26:09,550 --> 02:26:10,710
But it was really good.

4209
02:26:10,910 --> 02:26:12,890
And a lot of it was, it took

4210
02:26:12,890 --> 02:26:14,350
place in a Cessna airplane.

4211
02:26:15,090 --> 02:26:17,430
And at the end, boom, credits, executive producer

4212
02:26:17,430 --> 02:26:18,890
and director, Mel Gibson.

4213
02:26:19,950 --> 02:26:20,730
Like, wow.

4214
02:26:21,470 --> 02:26:23,150
He's running for governor.

4215
02:26:23,730 --> 02:26:24,730
Of what state?

4216
02:26:25,870 --> 02:26:26,310
California.

4217
02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:26,870
Really?

4218
02:26:27,610 --> 02:26:27,930
Yep.

4219
02:26:28,550 --> 02:26:30,670
Wow, that would be- I think he

4220
02:26:30,670 --> 02:26:32,150
might be able to even get the job.

4221
02:26:32,270 --> 02:26:33,310
Wow, wow.

4222
02:26:33,730 --> 02:26:35,990
Because if Kamala Harris runs, there's gonna be

4223
02:26:35,990 --> 02:26:38,250
a backlash against her because nobody likes her.

4224
02:26:38,450 --> 02:26:38,630
No.

4225
02:26:39,130 --> 02:26:41,690
And people always like, you know, let's give

4226
02:26:41,690 --> 02:26:42,150
him a shot.

4227
02:26:42,270 --> 02:26:44,030
What's it gonna, how bad could it be?

4228
02:26:44,330 --> 02:26:44,750
It's Mel.

4229
02:26:45,210 --> 02:26:46,790
He's pretty successful with movies.

4230
02:26:47,730 --> 02:26:49,050
Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

4231
02:26:49,050 --> 02:26:51,430
So we thank everybody, $50 and above.

4232
02:26:51,650 --> 02:26:52,810
So you can keep track at home if

4233
02:26:52,810 --> 02:26:54,630
you feel called to do that.

4234
02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:56,290
But we really just like to thank people

4235
02:26:58,210 --> 02:27:00,030
and share with you the support that they

4236
02:27:00,030 --> 02:27:02,110
have given because it does keep the show

4237
02:27:02,110 --> 02:27:03,690
going for four more years.

4238
02:27:05,010 --> 02:27:07,290
$200 or above, you get a credit, like

4239
02:27:07,290 --> 02:27:09,670
Hollywood, an associate executive producer credit.

4240
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:11,150
And that is good for your lifetime.

4241
02:27:11,330 --> 02:27:12,710
You can use it anywhere, put it anywhere.

4242
02:27:12,830 --> 02:27:15,170
If anyone questions that, we will vouch for

4243
02:27:15,170 --> 02:27:15,370
you.

4244
02:27:15,450 --> 02:27:17,290
Can use it on your resume as example.

4245
02:27:17,810 --> 02:27:20,630
$300 and above, we will give an executive

4246
02:27:20,630 --> 02:27:21,230
producer credit.

4247
02:27:21,330 --> 02:27:22,870
And in both cases, we'll read your note.

4248
02:27:23,370 --> 02:27:25,750
If it's within reason and not too long,

4249
02:27:25,890 --> 02:27:27,290
oh, we've got a long one here today,

4250
02:27:27,310 --> 02:27:27,550
I see.

4251
02:27:30,470 --> 02:27:32,790
And that gives you the same credit, which

4252
02:27:32,790 --> 02:27:34,570
you can then use on imdb.com.

4253
02:27:34,670 --> 02:27:36,950
So we'll start off with our first and

4254
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:43,010
top guy, top executive producer of episode 1750,

4255
02:27:43,430 --> 02:27:45,530
the Archduke of Central Florida.

4256
02:27:47,290 --> 02:27:50,430
I don't remember his actual pre-Duke name,

4257
02:27:51,010 --> 02:27:52,830
but he lives in Winter Park, Florida.

4258
02:27:54,070 --> 02:27:56,790
And he came in with, actually he gets

4259
02:27:56,790 --> 02:27:58,430
a double credit for this because he also

4260
02:27:58,430 --> 02:28:01,670
gets a show number donation, 1750.

4261
02:28:02,190 --> 02:28:03,810
Yeah, that was a good one.

4262
02:28:03,890 --> 02:28:08,650
Which he says heretofore known as the Blofeld

4263
02:28:08,650 --> 02:28:11,450
donation from Archduke of Central Florida.

4264
02:28:12,070 --> 02:28:14,030
Keep up the Queen Ursula clips, very informative.

4265
02:28:14,310 --> 02:28:15,670
Five more years, he says.

4266
02:28:15,670 --> 02:28:17,690
Oh, he's skimping, five more years.

4267
02:28:18,410 --> 02:28:19,150
Five more years.

4268
02:28:19,310 --> 02:28:21,290
Well, if we get more people that donated

4269
02:28:21,290 --> 02:28:24,030
1750 every show, we'd probably do five more

4270
02:28:24,030 --> 02:28:24,410
years.

4271
02:28:24,570 --> 02:28:27,050
Explain the Blofeld donation, because I don't-

4272
02:28:27,050 --> 02:28:28,990
I forgot, I don't know, I don't remember.

4273
02:28:29,290 --> 02:28:30,390
What is Blofeld?

4274
02:28:31,170 --> 02:28:33,350
Blofeld was one of the evil characters in

4275
02:28:33,350 --> 02:28:34,930
the early James Bond movies.

4276
02:28:35,030 --> 02:28:35,570
Oh, okay.

4277
02:28:36,590 --> 02:28:38,790
Stavros Blofeld, he always used to have a

4278
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:41,210
big white cat and he would wear this

4279
02:28:41,210 --> 02:28:42,990
gray outfit and he had a scar on

4280
02:28:42,990 --> 02:28:44,510
his face and he was bald and he

4281
02:28:44,510 --> 02:28:45,750
was nasty.

4282
02:28:46,910 --> 02:28:49,150
Thank you very much, Archduke of Central Florida.

4283
02:28:49,550 --> 02:28:51,090
And yes, we will now call this the

4284
02:28:51,090 --> 02:28:52,870
Blofeld donation, 1750.

4285
02:28:58,850 --> 02:28:59,970
Clifford Reemersma.

4286
02:29:00,010 --> 02:29:01,510
I would say it's Reemersma.

4287
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:12,350
Reemersma, Reemersma in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, $350.93. Just

4288
02:29:12,350 --> 02:29:14,690
bought a pair of work boots for $330.

4289
02:29:15,470 --> 02:29:15,990
Wow.

4290
02:29:16,210 --> 02:29:18,810
I figure it's time to invest in another

4291
02:29:18,810 --> 02:29:22,610
luxury that helps me through the workday.

4292
02:29:23,450 --> 02:29:26,510
That's the show, the No Agenda Show.

4293
02:29:26,690 --> 02:29:29,230
That's 333.33 plus fees.

4294
02:29:29,450 --> 02:29:29,590
Wow.

4295
02:29:30,210 --> 02:29:33,050
Two thirds to the knighthood, two thirds of

4296
02:29:33,050 --> 02:29:33,790
the way to the knighthood.

4297
02:29:33,930 --> 02:29:35,790
Could I get a relationship karma, please?

4298
02:29:35,970 --> 02:29:36,590
Yeah, absolutely.

4299
02:29:37,210 --> 02:29:38,750
He totally understands the system.

4300
02:29:38,930 --> 02:29:40,350
You've got karma.

4301
02:29:41,070 --> 02:29:43,670
That's exactly how you should see the show.

4302
02:29:43,670 --> 02:29:45,470
He got something out of it and he

4303
02:29:45,470 --> 02:29:46,430
put it right back in.

4304
02:29:46,530 --> 02:29:48,630
That's the value model right there in a

4305
02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:48,730
nutshell.

4306
02:29:48,730 --> 02:29:49,410
Yeah, he looked at the shoes.

4307
02:29:49,530 --> 02:29:51,470
He said, these are 300 bucks and they're

4308
02:29:51,470 --> 02:29:53,550
gonna protect, but he probably has steel toes.

4309
02:29:54,210 --> 02:29:56,410
And he said, well, you know what?

4310
02:29:56,410 --> 02:29:57,870
This is protecting my brain.

4311
02:29:58,270 --> 02:30:02,210
I have one rule which Tina and I

4312
02:30:02,210 --> 02:30:02,790
adhere to.

4313
02:30:03,070 --> 02:30:05,410
If you're using anything on a daily basis,

4314
02:30:05,590 --> 02:30:07,110
you might as well get a good one.

4315
02:30:07,650 --> 02:30:09,430
So if it's a mattress, if it's a

4316
02:30:09,430 --> 02:30:12,590
pillow, if it's your cutting board, if it's

4317
02:30:12,590 --> 02:30:14,650
things that you use every single day.

4318
02:30:15,050 --> 02:30:17,070
And if you're listening to a podcast twice

4319
02:30:17,070 --> 02:30:18,730
a week for a total of six over

4320
02:30:18,730 --> 02:30:21,030
six hours, you might as well make sure

4321
02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:22,270
it's continuous.

4322
02:30:22,490 --> 02:30:24,010
You want it to be the best podcast

4323
02:30:24,010 --> 02:30:24,430
in the universe.

4324
02:30:24,430 --> 02:30:25,490
So you need to support us.

4325
02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:27,150
That's my logic.

4326
02:30:27,550 --> 02:30:28,530
I think that's a good one.

4327
02:30:28,930 --> 02:30:32,430
333.33 from Meister Chit Chat in Russellville,

4328
02:30:32,590 --> 02:30:33,070
Arkansas.

4329
02:30:33,770 --> 02:30:35,410
And he has a very complicated note.

4330
02:30:35,950 --> 02:30:38,570
Good evening or morning salutations, amazing gentlemen.

4331
02:30:38,910 --> 02:30:40,850
Okay, more brevity is appreciated.

4332
02:30:41,270 --> 02:30:42,290
Thank you for your service.

4333
02:30:42,730 --> 02:30:43,930
I'd like that, it's courage.

4334
02:30:44,310 --> 02:30:46,710
I'd like to clarify my previous donation was

4335
02:30:46,710 --> 02:30:49,850
a 333.33 switcheroo with fees included.

4336
02:30:49,990 --> 02:30:52,630
So is this one, Miss Eclectic Chit Chat

4337
02:30:52,630 --> 02:30:53,870
of Harmony Homestead.

4338
02:30:54,030 --> 02:30:56,470
This donation is also a switcheroo for the

4339
02:30:56,470 --> 02:30:57,610
same Miss Chit Chat.

4340
02:30:58,390 --> 02:31:00,370
Okay, so let me put- Mrs. Chit

4341
02:31:00,370 --> 02:31:00,470
Chat.

4342
02:31:00,470 --> 02:31:02,350
Mrs. Chit Chat, so let me put in

4343
02:31:02,350 --> 02:31:03,130
Mrs. Chit Chat.

4344
02:31:03,230 --> 02:31:03,630
There we go.

4345
02:31:04,370 --> 02:31:06,470
I must make it clear that we engage

4346
02:31:06,470 --> 02:31:09,330
corporately without prejudice for our firstborn to be

4347
02:31:09,330 --> 02:31:12,030
named after you without prejudice, our son will

4348
02:31:12,030 --> 02:31:14,690
be named Gabriel Nolan of God, a hero

4349
02:31:14,690 --> 02:31:16,350
or champion, thanks to you.

4350
02:31:16,430 --> 02:31:18,190
And for more years, he will be instrumental

4351
02:31:18,190 --> 02:31:20,190
in bringing more souls to the creator during

4352
02:31:20,190 --> 02:31:21,210
this time of turmoil.

4353
02:31:21,770 --> 02:31:22,770
Is your name Gabriel?

4354
02:31:23,430 --> 02:31:24,010
I guess.

4355
02:31:25,530 --> 02:31:26,730
Adam Gabriel Curry.

4356
02:31:27,430 --> 02:31:29,050
Thank you both and all of Knowage in

4357
02:31:29,050 --> 02:31:29,370
the nation.

4358
02:31:29,510 --> 02:31:30,710
We can begin the next phase of our

4359
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:33,450
parentage after four years of IVF effort.

4360
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:34,930
Oh, wow, all right.

4361
02:31:36,250 --> 02:31:37,990
Expensive and tedious, yes.

4362
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:40,930
No success until we underwent a de-douching.

4363
02:31:41,030 --> 02:31:42,390
A de-douching did it.

4364
02:31:42,970 --> 02:31:45,850
And Lupron endometriosis treatment.

4365
02:31:46,670 --> 02:31:47,890
I think it was the de-douching.

4366
02:31:48,290 --> 02:31:50,130
My wife is now over one third of

4367
02:31:50,130 --> 02:31:51,730
motherhood and two third damehood.

4368
02:31:51,850 --> 02:31:54,070
If you're an Alaskan needing dental work, check

4369
02:31:54,070 --> 02:31:56,510
out MustachioDDS.com.

4370
02:32:00,830 --> 02:32:01,870
MustachioDDS.com.

4371
02:32:03,530 --> 02:32:04,570
MustachioDDS.com.

4372
02:32:04,690 --> 02:32:05,790
We make your teeth- I'm guessing he's

4373
02:32:05,790 --> 02:32:06,470
got a mustache.

4374
02:32:06,470 --> 02:32:07,970
We make your teeth look good.

4375
02:32:08,470 --> 02:32:11,970
Needing psychiatric help, RPI, or looking for off

4376
02:32:11,970 --> 02:32:14,850
-grid or gardening help, Harmony Homestead on Facebook

4377
02:32:14,850 --> 02:32:15,490
or Snapchat.

4378
02:32:15,730 --> 02:32:17,890
Wow, that is a broad spectrum of services.

4379
02:32:18,810 --> 02:32:20,210
Sorry for the obtuse note.

4380
02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:22,570
Use ITM on the phone for a stackable

4381
02:32:22,570 --> 02:32:24,790
10% discount on total treatment plan at

4382
02:32:24,790 --> 02:32:25,930
Atkins Dental Clinic.

4383
02:32:26,430 --> 02:32:27,710
Woo, no jingles, no karma.

4384
02:32:27,770 --> 02:32:29,110
Everything above was long enough, he says.

4385
02:32:29,170 --> 02:32:31,070
Yes, SirMeisterChitchat of Harmony Homestead.

4386
02:32:31,550 --> 02:32:32,230
Thank you.

4387
02:32:32,490 --> 02:32:33,830
Thank you, SirMeisterChitchat.

4388
02:32:34,090 --> 02:32:35,790
Great note, very entertaining.

4389
02:32:36,710 --> 02:32:41,750
Well, let's contrast that with Chapp Williams in

4390
02:32:41,750 --> 02:32:45,930
Edmond, Oklahoma, who came with 333.33. That

4391
02:32:45,930 --> 02:32:48,350
was a check with no note, and so

4392
02:32:48,350 --> 02:32:50,070
he gets a double up karma.

4393
02:32:50,490 --> 02:32:52,490
Oh, and here we go, double up for

4394
02:32:52,490 --> 02:32:53,110
the karmas.

4395
02:32:53,270 --> 02:32:56,630
You've got karma.

4396
02:32:57,030 --> 02:33:01,530
And 333 from SirTanley, SirTanley, Port Orange, Florida.

4397
02:33:02,150 --> 02:33:03,910
ITM, Jen, so much to say, so little

4398
02:33:03,910 --> 02:33:04,970
time, so I'll keep it short.

4399
02:33:05,070 --> 02:33:06,090
Keep up the good work, boys.

4400
02:33:06,090 --> 02:33:07,670
You've kept me listening twice a week since

4401
02:33:07,670 --> 02:33:10,670
2016, and this donation is a switcheroo for

4402
02:33:10,670 --> 02:33:11,710
my wife, Stormy.

4403
02:33:11,890 --> 02:33:13,990
All right, switcheroo has been engaged.

4404
02:33:14,630 --> 02:33:16,570
Happy 17th anniversary, babe.

4405
02:33:16,850 --> 02:33:18,330
You are my ride or die.

4406
02:33:18,710 --> 02:33:21,330
A family that no agendas together stays together.

4407
02:33:22,090 --> 02:33:24,130
And the weather app we've been working on

4408
02:33:24,130 --> 02:33:25,650
has finally hit the Apple App Store.

4409
02:33:26,110 --> 02:33:27,730
Want to try your hand at predicting the

4410
02:33:27,730 --> 02:33:28,670
weather in your hometown?

4411
02:33:29,090 --> 02:33:30,730
Then install Weather Champs.

4412
02:33:31,150 --> 02:33:32,590
Win forecast coins.

4413
02:33:35,030 --> 02:33:37,550
Enter sweepstakes and be crowned the weather champ.

4414
02:33:38,150 --> 02:33:40,950
Use code weatherfriend for 50% off an

4415
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:41,910
annual subscription.

4416
02:33:42,450 --> 02:33:44,310
Coming to Android in the next few weeks.

4417
02:33:45,450 --> 02:33:46,850
No jingles, no karma.

4418
02:33:47,490 --> 02:33:48,910
SirTanley, the weather champ.

4419
02:33:49,130 --> 02:33:50,990
Oh, well, when it's on Android, let me

4420
02:33:50,990 --> 02:33:51,170
know.

4421
02:33:51,230 --> 02:33:51,830
I'll try it out.

4422
02:33:52,550 --> 02:33:53,810
The weather champ.

4423
02:33:53,950 --> 02:33:55,830
And I can win forecast coins, John.

4424
02:33:56,750 --> 02:33:57,330
Yeah, good.

4425
02:33:58,110 --> 02:33:59,090
You can use them.

4426
02:33:59,510 --> 02:34:00,750
Eli the coffee guy's up.

4427
02:34:00,790 --> 02:34:02,570
He's in Bensonville, Illinois, 230.

4428
02:34:02,570 --> 02:34:07,810
$3.20. And he says, well, news agency

4429
02:34:07,810 --> 02:34:12,550
railed against the administration for deporting an innocent

4430
02:34:12,550 --> 02:34:16,690
pro-Palestine activist for exercising his free speech.

4431
02:34:17,030 --> 02:34:20,910
You guys called out Mahmoud Khalil for being

4432
02:34:20,910 --> 02:34:21,430
a spook.

4433
02:34:22,590 --> 02:34:24,990
That's the type of deconstruction that makes no

4434
02:34:24,990 --> 02:34:27,210
agenda truly the best podcast in the universe.

4435
02:34:27,390 --> 02:34:28,690
Thank you for the insight.

4436
02:34:28,870 --> 02:34:30,050
Jingle, spot the spook.

4437
02:34:30,670 --> 02:34:32,970
George Clooney's a spy for producers, by the

4438
02:34:32,970 --> 02:34:33,230
way.

4439
02:34:33,650 --> 02:34:34,610
Spooks or otherwise.

4440
02:34:35,330 --> 02:34:39,130
In need of great coffee, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com

4441
02:34:39,130 --> 02:34:41,430
and use the code ITM20 for 20%

4442
02:34:41,430 --> 02:34:42,130
off your order.

4443
02:34:42,350 --> 02:34:43,090
Stay caffeinated.

4444
02:34:43,670 --> 02:34:45,130
Eli the coffee guy.

4445
02:34:46,530 --> 02:34:50,090
♪ A spot the spook, spot the spook

4446
02:34:50,090 --> 02:34:53,970
♪ ♪ Everybody wants to spot the spook,

4447
02:34:54,270 --> 02:34:58,830
yeah ♪ ♪ George Clooney, George Clooney, George

4448
02:34:58,830 --> 02:35:00,430
Clooney ♪ Is a spy.

4449
02:35:02,510 --> 02:35:04,710
Man, I really get him today, don't I?

4450
02:35:04,890 --> 02:35:07,170
Day Mary Moon, Prairieville, Louisiana.

4451
02:35:08,030 --> 02:35:10,010
Everyone, this is the best day ever.

4452
02:35:12,430 --> 02:35:15,030
$200 associate executive producership for her.

4453
02:35:16,150 --> 02:35:18,130
And it's a switcheroo for my hubby, Sir

4454
02:35:18,130 --> 02:35:18,630
Juklaw.

4455
02:35:18,970 --> 02:35:21,330
Oh, okay, all right, Sir Juklaw.

4456
02:35:22,330 --> 02:35:24,650
All right, so we'll put Sir Juklaw in

4457
02:35:24,650 --> 02:35:25,350
there, perfect.

4458
02:35:26,070 --> 02:35:28,370
Welp, good job on the no agenda artwork

4459
02:35:28,370 --> 02:35:29,370
you picked on Sunday.

4460
02:35:29,370 --> 02:35:30,510
Oh, we were just talking about it.

4461
02:35:30,690 --> 02:35:31,910
It prompted my donation.

4462
02:35:32,070 --> 02:35:34,990
See, this is why Time Talent Treasure works.

4463
02:35:35,090 --> 02:35:37,290
It works in so many different ways, sometimes

4464
02:35:37,290 --> 02:35:37,910
unexpected.

4465
02:35:38,970 --> 02:35:40,250
I'm not sure if you realized it or

4466
02:35:40,250 --> 02:35:42,010
not, possibly it will be discussed on Thursday,

4467
02:35:42,110 --> 02:35:44,110
but the graphic is clearly a knockoff of,

4468
02:35:44,170 --> 02:35:46,230
oh, this is the note, of the original

4469
02:35:46,230 --> 02:35:48,950
Jazzercize artwork, Jazzercize.

4470
02:35:49,170 --> 02:35:50,830
I'm sending you the original so you can

4471
02:35:50,830 --> 02:35:51,810
compare the similarities.

4472
02:35:52,270 --> 02:35:54,330
I'm not mad about the similarities, quite the

4473
02:35:54,330 --> 02:35:54,710
contrary.

4474
02:35:54,970 --> 02:35:57,950
I have been a Jazzercize instructor for 15

4475
02:35:57,950 --> 02:36:00,450
years and I own two Jazzercize studios in

4476
02:36:00,450 --> 02:36:01,130
South Louisiana.

4477
02:36:01,750 --> 02:36:04,230
It is the best workout program around.

4478
02:36:04,830 --> 02:36:07,690
Ladies of no agenda nation, head over to

4479
02:36:07,690 --> 02:36:09,490
your local Jazzercize studio.

4480
02:36:10,010 --> 02:36:11,830
We have 8,000 locations.

4481
02:36:12,010 --> 02:36:12,490
What?

4482
02:36:14,210 --> 02:36:16,990
I need to get the Fredericksburg franchise license.

4483
02:36:17,970 --> 02:36:20,430
We have 8,000 locations and we're in

4484
02:36:20,430 --> 02:36:23,450
nearly every state in over 110 countries to

4485
02:36:23,450 --> 02:36:25,490
experience the original dance fitness workout.

4486
02:36:26,010 --> 02:36:27,990
I've been making people dance, sweat, and smile

4487
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:29,890
for over 55 years.

4488
02:36:30,050 --> 02:36:31,790
By the way, guys, you too can take

4489
02:36:31,790 --> 02:36:32,250
our classes.

4490
02:36:32,390 --> 02:36:33,210
We don't discriminate.

4491
02:36:33,950 --> 02:36:35,030
We're not the ginocracy.

4492
02:36:36,070 --> 02:36:37,450
Thanks, John and Adam and the artists who

4493
02:36:37,450 --> 02:36:39,330
donated their time and talent for making my

4494
02:36:39,330 --> 02:36:41,370
morning a little sunnier when I saw the

4495
02:36:41,370 --> 02:36:42,290
artwork pop up.

4496
02:36:42,470 --> 02:36:43,950
That's from Dame Mary Moon.

4497
02:36:44,050 --> 02:36:44,630
How about that?

4498
02:36:44,690 --> 02:36:45,130
There it is.

4499
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:46,610
So that's why I never saw the note,

4500
02:36:46,650 --> 02:36:47,390
because I didn't get it.

4501
02:36:48,850 --> 02:36:49,890
That's what happened there.

4502
02:36:50,570 --> 02:36:52,710
It's amazing, the people that listen to this

4503
02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:53,010
show.

4504
02:36:53,130 --> 02:36:53,610
We have.

4505
02:36:53,850 --> 02:36:54,410
And produce it.

4506
02:36:54,490 --> 02:36:55,790
Yeah, we do, we do have amazing.

4507
02:36:55,790 --> 02:36:58,110
Voting Linda Lou Patkins is Lakewood, Colorado, and

4508
02:36:58,110 --> 02:37:01,630
she came up with 200 bucks and asks

4509
02:37:01,630 --> 02:37:04,990
for Jobs Karma and says for a competitive

4510
02:37:04,990 --> 02:37:07,910
edge with a resume that gets results, go

4511
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:11,350
to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume

4512
02:37:11,350 --> 02:37:13,170
and job search needs.

4513
02:37:13,330 --> 02:37:15,730
That's ImageMakersInc with a K and work with

4514
02:37:15,730 --> 02:37:18,270
Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of

4515
02:37:18,270 --> 02:37:18,750
resumes.

4516
02:37:19,210 --> 02:37:22,370
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4517
02:37:22,490 --> 02:37:24,070
Let's vote for jobs.

4518
02:37:24,670 --> 02:37:26,170
Jobs, karma.

4519
02:37:26,370 --> 02:37:27,450
And there it is again.

4520
02:37:27,890 --> 02:37:30,470
Another long note with a switcheroo.

4521
02:37:30,770 --> 02:37:31,850
This is crazy.

4522
02:37:32,630 --> 02:37:33,490
This is crazy.

4523
02:37:34,410 --> 02:37:35,130
A switcheroo.

4524
02:37:35,310 --> 02:37:37,310
This is from Caitlin Meyer of Los Angeles,

4525
02:37:37,470 --> 02:37:37,990
California.

4526
02:37:39,550 --> 02:37:42,510
And switcheroo for Lady Linda of Los Angeles.

4527
02:37:42,990 --> 02:37:44,850
Mira que burra, happy birthday.

4528
02:37:45,270 --> 02:37:46,810
And that is today.

4529
02:37:46,990 --> 02:37:48,150
So on the list.

4530
02:37:48,550 --> 02:37:50,610
Your cara de chucho face of a brother

4531
02:37:50,610 --> 02:37:52,210
and his wife are putting in the big

4532
02:37:52,210 --> 02:37:53,790
one for you, so don't ever say we

4533
02:37:53,790 --> 02:37:54,730
did nothing for you.

4534
02:37:55,350 --> 02:37:57,070
We're taking a note from Linda Lou, Duchess

4535
02:37:57,070 --> 02:37:58,750
of Jobs and writer of resumes and Eli

4536
02:37:58,750 --> 02:38:00,450
the Coffee Guy and giving you a big

4537
02:38:00,450 --> 02:38:02,270
shout out in front of the best podcast

4538
02:38:02,270 --> 02:38:03,610
listeners in the universe.

4539
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:06,480
That's interesting.

4540
02:38:06,600 --> 02:38:08,440
Now we have people who use a service

4541
02:38:08,440 --> 02:38:10,080
or a product advertising it.

4542
02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:10,960
This is great.

4543
02:38:11,720 --> 02:38:13,500
That's a double switcheroo.

4544
02:38:13,760 --> 02:38:16,340
And Caitlin Meyer asks, have you got money

4545
02:38:16,340 --> 02:38:17,140
on your mind?

4546
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:17,840
Why?

4547
02:38:18,180 --> 02:38:20,860
Let Lady Linda get your money to work

4548
02:38:20,860 --> 02:38:21,360
for you.

4549
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:25,060
If you peruse Instagram for your next overseas

4550
02:38:25,060 --> 02:38:27,640
adventure, flip those magazines in the waiting room

4551
02:38:27,640 --> 02:38:30,120
and see for yourself on that tranquil shoreline

4552
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:32,120
and get your finances in order.

4553
02:38:32,220 --> 02:38:34,120
The money you have today can start working

4554
02:38:34,120 --> 02:38:35,600
to send you there tomorrow.

4555
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:36,720
Contact Linda.

4556
02:38:36,880 --> 02:38:38,540
She cares and she's good.

4557
02:38:38,900 --> 02:38:41,300
That's linda.gaeta at nm.com.

4558
02:38:41,400 --> 02:38:44,060
Linda.gaeta, G-A-E-T-A at

4559
02:38:44,060 --> 02:38:45,440
nm.com.

4560
02:38:46,220 --> 02:38:46,740
Wow.

4561
02:38:47,660 --> 02:38:49,340
Now I might have to withdraw the money

4562
02:38:49,340 --> 02:38:51,580
from Horowitz and give it to Linda because

4563
02:38:51,580 --> 02:38:53,120
she cares and she's good.

4564
02:38:53,860 --> 02:38:55,880
We request jobs, Karma, for the birthday girl.

4565
02:38:56,080 --> 02:38:57,840
Here's to another great trip around the sun.

4566
02:38:57,980 --> 02:39:01,360
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4570
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:06,560
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4571
02:39:07,120 --> 02:39:08,560
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4572
02:39:09,320 --> 02:39:12,840
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02:39:13,360 --> 02:39:14,820
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4591
02:39:45,800 --> 02:39:47,880
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4592
02:39:47,880 --> 02:39:48,800
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4593
02:39:48,800 --> 02:39:50,180
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02:39:50,680 --> 02:39:53,240
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4596
02:40:08,020 --> 02:40:10,620
All right, two little quick fun, fun clips,

4597
02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:13,000
two little quick fun clips, quickies, little quickies,

4598
02:40:13,040 --> 02:40:13,560
little quickies.

4599
02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:14,560
Sure.

4600
02:40:14,760 --> 02:40:15,940
A little AOC gaffe.

4601
02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:18,720
And this isn't just about Republicans.

4602
02:40:19,520 --> 02:40:22,600
We need a Democratic party that fights harder

4603
02:40:22,600 --> 02:40:23,520
for us to.

4604
02:40:26,200 --> 02:40:27,780
Your future president, ladies and gentlemen.

4605
02:40:28,060 --> 02:40:29,540
Yeah, this is what she's thinking.

4606
02:40:29,740 --> 02:40:30,780
That's what's on her mind.

4607
02:40:30,880 --> 02:40:32,960
And then this one from Jasmine Crockett.

4608
02:40:33,020 --> 02:40:35,240
Everyone's losing their mind over this.

4609
02:40:35,400 --> 02:40:37,920
I think this is way overblown.

4610
02:40:38,340 --> 02:40:41,360
A Congresswoman from North Texas is causing controversy

4611
02:40:41,360 --> 02:40:44,820
over recent comments she made about Governor Abbott.

4612
02:40:45,460 --> 02:40:47,680
Fox's Steven Dial explains.

4613
02:40:48,060 --> 02:40:50,360
Well, as Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is being called

4614
02:40:50,360 --> 02:40:52,640
out by other elected officials for her comments

4615
02:40:52,640 --> 02:40:55,360
last Saturday at a human rights campaign event.

4616
02:40:55,800 --> 02:40:57,360
Y'all know we got Governor Hot Wheels

4617
02:40:57,360 --> 02:40:57,980
down there.

4618
02:40:58,160 --> 02:40:58,960
Come on now.

4619
02:41:03,260 --> 02:41:04,940
That means that he is a hot mess.

4620
02:41:05,560 --> 02:41:08,160
Referring to Governor Greg Abbott as Hot Wheels,

4621
02:41:08,640 --> 02:41:10,980
Abbott was partially paralyzed when a tree fell

4622
02:41:10,980 --> 02:41:12,100
on him decades ago.

4623
02:41:12,220 --> 02:41:13,660
I think this is stupid.

4624
02:41:14,680 --> 02:41:16,640
It's actually a cool name.

4625
02:41:16,640 --> 02:41:19,440
I think Governor Hot Wheels is pretty funny.

4626
02:41:19,780 --> 02:41:21,700
Everybody, ooh, outrage.

4627
02:41:21,880 --> 02:41:23,440
Oh, I can't believe she said that she

4628
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:25,240
made fun of the man in the wheelchair.

4629
02:41:28,020 --> 02:41:29,840
How hypocritical is that?

4630
02:41:30,840 --> 02:41:33,700
Like when Trump makes fun of people's ears

4631
02:41:33,700 --> 02:41:37,400
and eyes and height and whatever.

4632
02:41:37,840 --> 02:41:38,620
Oh, it's great.

4633
02:41:38,960 --> 02:41:42,060
This is actually, I have to say, as

4634
02:41:42,060 --> 02:41:43,920
a nickname, I think it's pretty cool.

4635
02:41:44,540 --> 02:41:46,420
I'm gonna call him Governor Hot Wheels from

4636
02:41:46,420 --> 02:41:46,960
now on.

4637
02:41:47,360 --> 02:41:47,740
Okay.

4638
02:41:48,400 --> 02:41:49,160
What did you think?

4639
02:41:49,220 --> 02:41:50,720
Did you think anything of this at all?

4640
02:41:50,960 --> 02:41:52,080
I know you're lost.

4641
02:41:52,260 --> 02:41:54,560
No, everybody talked about this.

4642
02:41:54,740 --> 02:41:56,200
I thought it was, I think you're right.

4643
02:41:56,220 --> 02:41:57,040
It was overblown.

4644
02:41:57,720 --> 02:42:00,580
I do think it was kind of at

4645
02:42:00,580 --> 02:42:02,760
the, she gave it at a human rights

4646
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:05,060
convention, which I think that was the wrong

4647
02:42:05,060 --> 02:42:05,700
audience.

4648
02:42:05,800 --> 02:42:06,780
Well, there's that.

4649
02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:09,040
I mean, it was like, you know, ableist

4650
02:42:09,040 --> 02:42:09,840
kind of thing.

4651
02:42:11,660 --> 02:42:13,800
Wow, you are the DEI hire.

4652
02:42:14,020 --> 02:42:15,680
You use the term ableist?

4653
02:42:15,920 --> 02:42:18,560
Yeah, just because that's the nature of when

4654
02:42:18,560 --> 02:42:19,440
she says it.

4655
02:42:19,540 --> 02:42:21,200
I think the venue was wrong.

4656
02:42:21,540 --> 02:42:23,660
And so she wasn't thinking, but she's a

4657
02:42:23,660 --> 02:42:23,960
dummy.

4658
02:42:24,140 --> 02:42:25,720
So who cares what she says?

4659
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:27,380
It still was funny.

4660
02:42:27,940 --> 02:42:28,680
It is funny.

4661
02:42:28,820 --> 02:42:30,240
And I think Hot Wheels is a good

4662
02:42:30,240 --> 02:42:31,160
nickname for the guy.

4663
02:42:31,180 --> 02:42:31,460
Yeah.

4664
02:42:31,800 --> 02:42:32,520
And from now on.

4665
02:42:32,680 --> 02:42:34,380
Although I never see him moving very fast

4666
02:42:34,380 --> 02:42:34,940
in that thing.

4667
02:42:35,120 --> 02:42:36,560
Well, that's kind of the funny part.

4668
02:42:37,500 --> 02:42:39,540
It's like, this is what you do.

4669
02:42:39,540 --> 02:42:42,940
You give people nicknames based upon their physical

4670
02:42:42,940 --> 02:42:43,600
appearance.

4671
02:42:44,900 --> 02:42:46,660
We do this all the time on the

4672
02:42:46,660 --> 02:42:46,920
show.

4673
02:42:48,480 --> 02:42:49,720
Yes, we do it all the time.

4674
02:42:49,860 --> 02:42:50,800
Okay, so.

4675
02:42:50,940 --> 02:42:52,300
But we're not in front of a human

4676
02:42:52,300 --> 02:42:53,480
rights convention.

4677
02:42:53,800 --> 02:42:53,920
We do it.

4678
02:42:53,920 --> 02:42:55,580
Well, we are in front of Scientologists.

4679
02:42:55,860 --> 02:42:56,060
I mean.

4680
02:42:56,280 --> 02:42:56,980
Yeah, it's true.

4681
02:42:57,040 --> 02:42:58,160
We get the Scientologists.

4682
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:00,500
We haven't really given anyone grief.

4683
02:43:00,760 --> 02:43:00,940
No.

4684
02:43:01,100 --> 02:43:02,640
Do they really donate the Scientologists?

4685
02:43:02,760 --> 02:43:03,860
Or they don't, do they do the silent

4686
02:43:03,860 --> 02:43:03,960
donations?

4687
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:05,340
You know, it's a good question.

4688
02:43:05,700 --> 02:43:06,880
We'll have to take a look.

4689
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:07,840
I'll have to go back to this.

4690
02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:09,040
Let's do a little couple.

4691
02:43:09,040 --> 02:43:10,140
Well, I got a couple of clips which

4692
02:43:10,140 --> 02:43:13,280
kind of have a little gotcha in here

4693
02:43:13,280 --> 02:43:14,580
that I think is worth talking about.

4694
02:43:14,680 --> 02:43:16,560
This is about religious quitting.

4695
02:43:16,740 --> 02:43:18,700
This is on NPD, especially on people that

4696
02:43:18,700 --> 02:43:21,840
are brought up in a religion and they

4697
02:43:21,840 --> 02:43:22,220
quit.

4698
02:43:22,540 --> 02:43:23,040
Hell no.

4699
02:43:23,260 --> 02:43:25,540
People around the world are switching religions or

4700
02:43:25,540 --> 02:43:26,980
leaving religion altogether.

4701
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:29,600
A new study from Pew Research finds that

4702
02:43:29,600 --> 02:43:32,460
large portions of adults no longer practice the

4703
02:43:32,460 --> 02:43:33,880
faith in which they were raised.

4704
02:43:34,240 --> 02:43:37,280
Pew surveyed nearly 80,000 people in 36

4705
02:43:37,280 --> 02:43:37,820
countries.

4706
02:43:37,820 --> 02:43:40,760
NPR religion correspondent Jason Derose reports.

4707
02:43:41,300 --> 02:43:44,400
Switching is especially common in East Asia, Europe,

4708
02:43:44,500 --> 02:43:45,340
and the Americas.

4709
02:43:45,720 --> 02:43:48,140
Kirsten LaSage is the study's lead author.

4710
02:43:48,540 --> 02:43:50,880
Out of the 36 countries that we surveyed

4711
02:43:50,880 --> 02:43:53,460
in, the three countries with the highest rates

4712
02:43:53,460 --> 02:43:57,340
of religious switching are South Korea, Spain, and

4713
02:43:57,340 --> 02:43:57,720
Canada.

4714
02:43:58,060 --> 02:44:00,500
In South Korea, Pew found that 50%

4715
02:44:00,500 --> 02:44:02,260
of respondents had changed religions.

4716
02:44:02,560 --> 02:44:05,000
In Spain, 40% said they'd left their

4717
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:05,800
childhood faith.

4718
02:44:05,800 --> 02:44:08,440
In Canada, the number is 38%.

4719
02:44:08,440 --> 02:44:11,660
By comparison, in the US, 28% switched.

4720
02:44:12,180 --> 02:44:14,760
LaSage says two religions were most affected.

4721
02:44:15,080 --> 02:44:17,440
The religious groups that have had the largest

4722
02:44:17,440 --> 02:44:21,680
losses from religious switching are Christianity and Buddhism.

4723
02:44:22,100 --> 02:44:25,440
LaSage says the change is particularly acute in

4724
02:44:25,440 --> 02:44:26,240
parts of Europe.

4725
02:44:26,560 --> 02:44:28,840
For example, Italy has the highest ratio of

4726
02:44:28,840 --> 02:44:30,800
people leaving to people joining Christianity.

4727
02:44:31,220 --> 02:44:33,540
For every one person who becomes Christian, about

4728
02:44:33,540 --> 02:44:36,260
28 Italians are leaving the religion.

4729
02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:38,700
The biggest gains were among those who have

4730
02:44:38,700 --> 02:44:41,200
no religious affiliation, which is a group that

4731
02:44:41,200 --> 02:44:44,520
includes atheists, agnostics, and those who describe themselves

4732
02:44:44,520 --> 02:44:46,000
as nothing in particular.

4733
02:44:46,500 --> 02:44:48,180
So it's not the case that people are

4734
02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:51,580
necessarily switching from one religion to the next.

4735
02:44:51,940 --> 02:44:53,780
For example, there's not a lot of switching

4736
02:44:53,780 --> 02:44:56,820
from Christianity into Islam.

4737
02:44:56,960 --> 02:45:00,720
Rather, LaSage says, most switching is people leaving

4738
02:45:00,720 --> 02:45:01,900
religion altogether.

4739
02:45:02,620 --> 02:45:05,640
Yeah, well, this is an interesting choice of

4740
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:09,580
words, but maybe I should hold my white

4741
02:45:09,580 --> 02:45:12,920
Christian nationalist perspective until the second clip.

4742
02:45:13,540 --> 02:45:16,800
Yeah, I would say, because I have the

4743
02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:20,300
sense that they're trying to slam the Christians

4744
02:45:20,300 --> 02:45:21,520
here in some funny way.

4745
02:45:22,100 --> 02:45:25,360
And I think the second clip has an

4746
02:45:25,360 --> 02:45:27,180
exemplification of that.

4747
02:45:27,660 --> 02:45:29,780
And it's a tricky one, and we'll listen

4748
02:45:29,780 --> 02:45:31,640
to it, and then I'll ask you a

4749
02:45:31,640 --> 02:45:31,880
question.

4750
02:45:31,880 --> 02:45:33,480
Ooh, a question.

4751
02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:35,360
Well, let me go and walk away from

4752
02:45:35,360 --> 02:45:36,960
the microphone, so at least we're fair.

4753
02:45:37,500 --> 02:45:39,760
Meanwhile, specific religions in some countries appear to

4754
02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:40,960
be stickier than others.

4755
02:45:41,200 --> 02:45:43,620
Pew found very small percentages of the overall

4756
02:45:43,620 --> 02:45:46,940
adult population have left or joined Islam in

4757
02:45:46,940 --> 02:45:49,400
most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all

4758
02:45:49,400 --> 02:45:52,120
people who- Wait, joined or left Islam?

4759
02:45:52,900 --> 02:45:53,320
Hold on a second.

4760
02:45:53,520 --> 02:45:54,900
Very few people leave Islam.

4761
02:45:55,120 --> 02:45:55,280
Oh.

4762
02:45:55,500 --> 02:45:58,000
Pew found very small percentages of the overall

4763
02:45:58,000 --> 02:46:01,320
adult population have left or joined Islam in

4764
02:46:01,320 --> 02:46:03,820
most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all

4765
02:46:03,820 --> 02:46:06,140
people who were raised Hindu in India and

4766
02:46:06,140 --> 02:46:08,980
Bangladesh still identify as Hindu today.

4767
02:46:09,420 --> 02:46:11,760
Judaism's retention rate is also high.

4768
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:15,700
In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed

4769
02:46:15,700 --> 02:46:19,320
who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as

4770
02:46:19,320 --> 02:46:19,780
Jewish.

4771
02:46:20,140 --> 02:46:22,260
In the U.S., 76% of those

4772
02:46:22,260 --> 02:46:24,980
raised Jewish still identify that way today, with

4773
02:46:24,980 --> 02:46:27,700
most American Jews who've left the faith now

4774
02:46:27,700 --> 02:46:29,580
identifying as unaffiliated.

4775
02:46:30,060 --> 02:46:32,660
Pew also found that 19% of U

4776
02:46:32,660 --> 02:46:36,120
.S. adults raised as Christian now identify as

4777
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:37,660
religiously unaffiliated.

4778
02:46:37,980 --> 02:46:40,060
Jason Derose, NPR News.

4779
02:46:40,500 --> 02:46:40,960
All right.

4780
02:46:41,180 --> 02:46:42,600
Interesting report from Pew.

4781
02:46:42,760 --> 02:46:44,160
So I'm gonna ask you the question.

4782
02:46:44,260 --> 02:46:44,560
Okay.

4783
02:46:45,440 --> 02:46:48,100
Why do you think more Christians have become

4784
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:52,360
unaffiliated in the United States than Jews?

4785
02:46:54,460 --> 02:46:56,500
Oh, I can answer the first question, but

4786
02:46:56,500 --> 02:47:00,120
the second one, well, you are a Jew,

4787
02:47:00,660 --> 02:47:03,480
there's not just a religion.

4788
02:47:04,600 --> 02:47:07,180
They consider themselves to be part of a

4789
02:47:07,180 --> 02:47:10,480
population group and also not white.

4790
02:47:12,040 --> 02:47:13,560
Well, wrong.

4791
02:47:15,080 --> 02:47:17,000
According to Pew, what did Pew say?

4792
02:47:17,800 --> 02:47:21,620
Pew said that more Jews than Christians have

4793
02:47:21,620 --> 02:47:24,080
left the faith in the United States.

4794
02:47:24,800 --> 02:47:26,620
But you heard it differently, didn't you?

4795
02:47:26,620 --> 02:47:27,300
I sure did.

4796
02:47:28,120 --> 02:47:29,840
The fact that you could answer that, try

4797
02:47:29,840 --> 02:47:32,140
to answer a question that was a misleading

4798
02:47:32,140 --> 02:47:34,760
question based on what you thought you heard.

4799
02:47:35,380 --> 02:47:36,960
Wow, do I need to listen to that

4800
02:47:36,960 --> 02:47:38,180
again to hear it correctly?

4801
02:47:38,640 --> 02:47:40,460
I'll explain what they did, then you can

4802
02:47:40,460 --> 02:47:41,060
listen again.

4803
02:47:41,200 --> 02:47:41,820
That was really good.

4804
02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:43,060
What they did was they did the old

4805
02:47:43,060 --> 02:47:45,720
switch where they gave you the wrong side

4806
02:47:45,720 --> 02:47:48,480
of the equation and you had to do

4807
02:47:48,480 --> 02:47:52,100
the math in your head to understand what

4808
02:47:52,100 --> 02:47:54,660
the leaving rate was.

4809
02:47:54,940 --> 02:47:55,060
Wow.

4810
02:47:55,060 --> 02:47:56,520
And then they gave you the right side

4811
02:47:56,520 --> 02:47:56,960
of the equation.

4812
02:47:57,040 --> 02:47:58,300
This is NPR, by the way.

4813
02:47:58,500 --> 02:48:00,020
And then they gave you the right side

4814
02:48:00,020 --> 02:48:01,920
of the equation for the Christian part of

4815
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:02,060
it.

4816
02:48:02,380 --> 02:48:05,920
In fact, if you listen carefully, 24%

4817
02:48:05,920 --> 02:48:10,040
of the Jews left and 19% of

4818
02:48:10,040 --> 02:48:11,540
the Christians left the faith.

4819
02:48:11,700 --> 02:48:12,920
Let me hear the, it's in the second

4820
02:48:12,920 --> 02:48:13,940
clip or in the first clip?

4821
02:48:14,140 --> 02:48:15,340
It's in the second clip, right at the

4822
02:48:15,340 --> 02:48:15,560
end.

4823
02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:17,500
Let me move it forward a little bit.

4824
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:19,560
That was, wow, I got duped.

4825
02:48:19,640 --> 02:48:22,780
You surveyed who were raised Jewish, still identify.

4826
02:48:23,020 --> 02:48:24,400
I guess they go back a little bit.

4827
02:48:24,970 --> 02:48:25,520
That's good.

4828
02:48:25,880 --> 02:48:26,000
Okay.

4829
02:48:26,120 --> 02:48:26,980
As Hindu today.

4830
02:48:27,400 --> 02:48:29,780
Judaism's retention rate is also high.

4831
02:48:30,300 --> 02:48:33,680
In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed

4832
02:48:33,680 --> 02:48:37,300
who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as

4833
02:48:37,300 --> 02:48:37,760
Jewish.

4834
02:48:37,980 --> 02:48:40,240
In the U.S., 76% of those

4835
02:48:40,240 --> 02:48:42,960
raised Jewish still identify that way today, with

4836
02:48:42,960 --> 02:48:45,680
most American Jews who've left the faith now

4837
02:48:45,680 --> 02:48:47,580
identifying as unaffiliated.

4838
02:48:48,060 --> 02:48:50,720
Pew also found that 19% of U

4839
02:48:50,720 --> 02:48:54,100
.S. adults raised as Christian now identify as

4840
02:48:54,100 --> 02:48:55,080
religiously unaffiliated.

4841
02:48:56,120 --> 02:48:56,220
Wow.

4842
02:48:56,240 --> 02:48:58,000
Jason Derose, NPR News.

4843
02:48:58,240 --> 02:48:59,000
Good catch.

4844
02:48:59,520 --> 02:48:59,840
Wow.

4845
02:48:59,840 --> 02:49:01,720
This is why I teased this early in

4846
02:49:01,720 --> 02:49:03,560
the show, saying how you can do this.

4847
02:49:03,560 --> 02:49:04,140
With a half a decade?

4848
02:49:04,580 --> 02:49:05,480
With a half a decade.

4849
02:49:05,720 --> 02:49:06,360
Yeah, yeah.

4850
02:49:06,520 --> 02:49:08,740
This is the kind of stuff that NPR

4851
02:49:08,740 --> 02:49:09,440
pulls.

4852
02:49:10,160 --> 02:49:12,160
There's no reason for them to do it

4853
02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:12,720
that way.

4854
02:49:12,960 --> 02:49:17,020
To say 76% and then stayed and

4855
02:49:17,020 --> 02:49:19,740
then 19% left for the Christian side,

4856
02:49:19,740 --> 02:49:23,580
it gives you the sense that the Christians

4857
02:49:23,580 --> 02:49:24,180
are bailing out.

4858
02:49:24,280 --> 02:49:26,040
And in fact, the opposite is actually true.

4859
02:49:26,360 --> 02:49:29,260
And that's why you thought you answered a

4860
02:49:29,260 --> 02:49:32,080
question that really was a faulty question, based

4861
02:49:32,080 --> 02:49:33,200
on the bull crap.

4862
02:49:33,480 --> 02:49:33,740
Wow.

4863
02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:36,260
Well, thank you.

4864
02:49:36,360 --> 02:49:37,040
That was very good.

4865
02:49:37,360 --> 02:49:40,980
That is media deconstruction at its finest.

4866
02:49:41,420 --> 02:49:42,900
I tip my hat to you, sir.

4867
02:49:43,160 --> 02:49:43,700
Thank you.

4868
02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:44,380
Thank you very much.

4869
02:49:44,680 --> 02:49:46,520
I will say the thing that I was

4870
02:49:46,520 --> 02:49:48,740
focused on is the term religion.

4871
02:49:49,660 --> 02:49:51,300
Religion, I am not religious.

4872
02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:52,960
I do not belong to a religion.

4873
02:49:53,340 --> 02:49:55,160
And also when they say, well, all these

4874
02:49:55,160 --> 02:49:59,680
Christians in Rome, well, their religion is Catholicism.

4875
02:50:00,900 --> 02:50:02,980
It is in fact, and I do track

4876
02:50:02,980 --> 02:50:05,620
this, and I talk to different pastors about

4877
02:50:05,620 --> 02:50:08,280
this, we are seeing record numbers of people

4878
02:50:08,280 --> 02:50:11,260
leaving the Baptist church and the Catholic church,

4879
02:50:11,460 --> 02:50:14,500
and they're going non-denominational or just are

4880
02:50:14,500 --> 02:50:16,540
believers and have faith.

4881
02:50:16,900 --> 02:50:19,100
So I think the whole study is somewhat

4882
02:50:19,100 --> 02:50:21,500
skewed because if you actually look at the

4883
02:50:21,500 --> 02:50:24,960
Zoomers, they're buying Bibles like no one else's

4884
02:50:24,960 --> 02:50:25,280
business.

4885
02:50:25,400 --> 02:50:27,260
It's up over 20% in the past

4886
02:50:27,260 --> 02:50:27,520
year.

4887
02:50:27,940 --> 02:50:30,660
Yeah, I think that's veering off what the

4888
02:50:30,660 --> 02:50:31,200
topic was.

4889
02:50:31,220 --> 02:50:33,600
I think they were specifically talking about religion.

4890
02:50:34,180 --> 02:50:37,540
I know, but people who are atheists or

4891
02:50:37,540 --> 02:50:41,300
non-believers, when they hear religion, they think,

4892
02:50:41,380 --> 02:50:42,040
oh, church people.

4893
02:50:43,020 --> 02:50:46,320
But I go to a church, but it's

4894
02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:47,680
not a religion.

4895
02:50:48,420 --> 02:50:51,280
Organized religion, if anything, is a problem, in

4896
02:50:51,280 --> 02:50:55,760
my opinion, and it's not been good for

4897
02:50:55,760 --> 02:50:56,180
the Pope.

4898
02:50:56,440 --> 02:50:58,620
Italian doctor who led the hospital team that

4899
02:50:58,620 --> 02:51:00,680
cared for Pope Francis is giving new insight

4900
02:51:00,680 --> 02:51:03,260
into the seriousness of the Pope's recent health

4901
02:51:03,260 --> 02:51:03,620
battle.

4902
02:51:04,140 --> 02:51:07,020
Professor Sergio Alfieri told an Italian newspaper that

4903
02:51:07,020 --> 02:51:08,880
doctors considered ending his treatment.

4904
02:51:09,320 --> 02:51:11,660
The critical moment came on February 28th when

4905
02:51:11,660 --> 02:51:13,320
the Pope had a breathing crisis.

4906
02:51:13,780 --> 02:51:16,000
The choice was whether to stop treatment and

4907
02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:19,300
let him pass or try more aggressive drugs

4908
02:51:19,300 --> 02:51:21,360
and therapies that come with a very high

4909
02:51:21,360 --> 02:51:23,180
risk of damaging other organs.

4910
02:51:23,340 --> 02:51:25,120
Man, we didn't hear that report that he

4911
02:51:25,120 --> 02:51:26,000
almost died.

4912
02:51:26,660 --> 02:51:28,280
It was all like, oh, he's gonna be

4913
02:51:28,280 --> 02:51:28,660
okay.

4914
02:51:28,960 --> 02:51:31,460
He just inhaled some puke.

4915
02:51:31,560 --> 02:51:32,740
It's okay, it's all right.

4916
02:51:32,820 --> 02:51:33,960
He's hanging in there.

4917
02:51:34,160 --> 02:51:35,240
He almost died.

4918
02:51:35,320 --> 02:51:36,900
They almost pulled him off the system.

4919
02:51:37,180 --> 02:51:39,260
The Pope was aware that there was a

4920
02:51:39,260 --> 02:51:41,460
chance that he might not survive the night.

4921
02:51:41,460 --> 02:51:43,820
According to the doctor who was then instructed

4922
02:51:43,820 --> 02:51:46,200
to try everything and not give up, back

4923
02:51:46,200 --> 02:51:48,740
here at home, Dr. David Manoff at Temple

4924
02:51:48,740 --> 02:51:51,300
University Hospital Genes Campus says this type of

4925
02:51:51,300 --> 02:51:52,960
scenario is not uncommon.

4926
02:51:53,260 --> 02:51:56,700
Once you are really, really sick and in

4927
02:51:56,700 --> 02:51:59,440
an ICU, sometimes some of the things that

4928
02:51:59,440 --> 02:52:01,720
we really have to do are to prioritize

4929
02:52:01,720 --> 02:52:05,260
what the most life-threatening organ failure is

4930
02:52:05,260 --> 02:52:07,240
going to be at that time, even if

4931
02:52:07,240 --> 02:52:08,260
some of the things that we do can

4932
02:52:08,260 --> 02:52:11,200
potentially come at the potential for injury to

4933
02:52:11,200 --> 02:52:11,980
other organ systems.

4934
02:52:12,180 --> 02:52:14,040
So Dr. Manoff says the Pope has a

4935
02:52:14,040 --> 02:52:15,120
long road to recovery.

4936
02:52:15,280 --> 02:52:18,060
Pope Francis was discharged on Sunday after 38

4937
02:52:18,060 --> 02:52:19,260
days in the hospital.

4938
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:22,620
Man, that was pretty serious.

4939
02:52:23,300 --> 02:52:25,260
Gives me more time to think about the

4940
02:52:25,260 --> 02:52:25,920
next Pope.

4941
02:52:26,980 --> 02:52:28,760
Yeah, that's a good, it's a break for

4942
02:52:28,760 --> 02:52:29,060
you.

4943
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:33,400
I'm narrowing it down as three candidates, three

4944
02:52:33,400 --> 02:52:34,640
candidates, I'm getting close.

4945
02:52:34,840 --> 02:52:36,360
I'm not even gonna ask you to tease

4946
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:36,500
it.

4947
02:52:36,580 --> 02:52:37,400
No, I have to.

4948
02:52:37,400 --> 02:52:39,180
International news, just a little bit.

4949
02:52:39,420 --> 02:52:40,700
International news, everybody.

4950
02:52:40,880 --> 02:52:42,800
Wait a minute, I'm guessing maybe it is

4951
02:52:42,800 --> 02:52:44,540
the BBC World Service.

4952
02:52:45,300 --> 02:52:45,400
Yes.

4953
02:52:45,720 --> 02:52:46,980
This is good stuff.

4954
02:52:47,220 --> 02:52:49,940
Now this is the South, all hell's breaking

4955
02:52:49,940 --> 02:52:51,420
loose and we're not being told about.

4956
02:52:52,300 --> 02:52:53,320
It's amazing, actually.

4957
02:52:53,440 --> 02:52:54,500
Let's start with South Sudan.

4958
02:52:54,860 --> 02:52:57,200
The UN mission in South Sudan has warned

4959
02:52:57,200 --> 02:52:59,440
that the arrest of first vice president Riek

4960
02:52:59,440 --> 02:53:01,800
Machar has brought the country to the brink

4961
02:53:01,800 --> 02:53:03,000
of another civil war.

4962
02:53:03,320 --> 02:53:05,680
The renewed political violence began last month.

4963
02:53:05,680 --> 02:53:07,100
Paddy McGuire reports.

4964
02:53:07,720 --> 02:53:09,960
The arrest of President Salva Kiir's long-term

4965
02:53:09,960 --> 02:53:12,280
rival at his residence in Juba is a

4966
02:53:12,280 --> 02:53:13,500
dramatic escalation.

4967
02:53:13,960 --> 02:53:15,840
In a statement, the head of UNMISS said

4968
02:53:15,840 --> 02:53:18,900
rising tensions between factions loyal to Mr. Machar,

4969
02:53:19,220 --> 02:53:21,340
a former rebel leader, and the forces of

4970
02:53:21,340 --> 02:53:24,720
Mr. Kiir were jeopardizing the 2018 peace agreement.

4971
02:53:25,260 --> 02:53:28,100
Nearly 400,000 people died in five years

4972
02:53:28,100 --> 02:53:31,100
of devastating civil war before the power-sharing

4973
02:53:31,100 --> 02:53:32,020
deal was signed.

4974
02:53:32,440 --> 02:53:35,060
As that deal unravels and the violence escalates,

4975
02:53:35,060 --> 02:53:38,620
some 50,000 South Sudanese citizens have already

4976
02:53:38,620 --> 02:53:39,460
been displaced.

4977
02:53:40,260 --> 02:53:42,560
Oh, will they be passionate at the universities

4978
02:53:42,560 --> 02:53:43,360
about this?

4979
02:53:44,260 --> 02:53:45,480
No, of course not.

4980
02:53:45,860 --> 02:53:46,680
They don't care.

4981
02:53:46,780 --> 02:53:48,020
Nobody cares about this stuff.

4982
02:53:48,520 --> 02:53:49,640
So here we go to the other one,

4983
02:53:49,700 --> 02:53:50,260
it's Pakistan.

4984
02:53:51,080 --> 02:53:53,200
Oh, I also have a Africa clip, actually.

4985
02:53:53,920 --> 02:53:55,140
Pakistan, okay.

4986
02:53:55,360 --> 02:53:58,100
Senior police in Balochistan say at least six

4987
02:53:58,100 --> 02:54:00,180
people were killed on Wednesday in a spate

4988
02:54:00,180 --> 02:54:04,040
of coordinated attacks in Pakistan's restless southwestern province.

4989
02:54:04,540 --> 02:54:07,080
According to the French news agency, police accused

4990
02:54:07,080 --> 02:54:09,560
gunmen of targeting bus passengers on the basis

4991
02:54:09,560 --> 02:54:10,500
of their ethnicity.

4992
02:54:11,180 --> 02:54:13,000
A member of the security forces was among

4993
02:54:13,000 --> 02:54:13,640
those killed.

4994
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:17,160
Local press reported explosions and trucks being set

4995
02:54:17,160 --> 02:54:19,220
on fire in various parts of the province.

4996
02:54:19,800 --> 02:54:22,680
Separatist insurgents have stepped up their activity against

4997
02:54:22,680 --> 02:54:25,220
Pakistani security forces in recent weeks.

4998
02:54:28,620 --> 02:54:32,880
Yeah, no one cares about that, except us.

4999
02:54:33,480 --> 02:54:36,400
And the Sudanese, even funnier about people not

5000
02:54:36,400 --> 02:54:39,040
caring, 400,000 people killed?

5001
02:54:39,540 --> 02:54:40,560
No, who cares?

5002
02:54:42,060 --> 02:54:42,600
Who cares?

5003
02:54:45,240 --> 02:54:47,380
Interesting, do we have the same clip here?

5004
02:54:47,500 --> 02:54:49,660
Because I have one Africa clip, because, you

5005
02:54:49,660 --> 02:54:51,580
know, manga make Africa news great again.

5006
02:54:52,060 --> 02:54:54,280
This USAID, Uganda, BBC?

5007
02:54:55,320 --> 02:54:56,160
Well, let's try it.

5008
02:54:56,280 --> 02:54:58,120
As a federal judge in the U.S.

5009
02:54:58,140 --> 02:55:01,520
blocks the Trump administration from taking further steps

5010
02:55:01,520 --> 02:55:03,620
to shut down the U.S. Agency for

5011
02:55:03,620 --> 02:55:06,520
International Development, we'll be asking what that means

5012
02:55:06,520 --> 02:55:09,160
in practice for people on the ground running

5013
02:55:09,160 --> 02:55:10,700
health programs in Uganda.

5014
02:55:11,140 --> 02:55:12,880
Ah, well, I happen to have an answer.

5015
02:55:14,020 --> 02:55:14,920
Well, there you go.

5016
02:55:15,180 --> 02:55:17,620
Yes, and this answer in the Africa news

5017
02:55:17,620 --> 02:55:20,340
segment from the No Agenda World Service, we

5018
02:55:20,340 --> 02:55:21,520
should do our own thing.

5019
02:55:21,680 --> 02:55:23,860
Now from the No Agenda World Service, we

5020
02:55:23,860 --> 02:55:24,820
go to Africa.

5021
02:55:26,160 --> 02:55:27,600
And what do we learn in Africa?

5022
02:55:27,600 --> 02:55:31,840
This is from the former African Union Ambassador

5023
02:55:31,840 --> 02:55:33,000
to the United States.

5024
02:55:33,480 --> 02:55:38,560
Her name is Arekana Chihombori Kwao.

5025
02:55:38,680 --> 02:55:41,160
We need to understand the real reason why

5026
02:55:41,160 --> 02:55:42,380
USAID is in Africa.

5027
02:55:42,800 --> 02:55:45,020
And not just USAID, but other NGOs.

5028
02:55:45,480 --> 02:55:46,600
You look at DFID, which is the British

5029
02:55:46,600 --> 02:55:48,320
equivalent, and many other smaller ones.

5030
02:55:48,720 --> 02:55:52,660
Their sole purpose was to act as if

5031
02:55:53,220 --> 02:55:55,000
they're coming to rescue Africa.

5032
02:55:55,000 --> 02:55:57,380
They are coming in claiming that they are

5033
02:55:57,380 --> 02:56:00,460
introducing grassroots initiatives that are going to help

5034
02:56:00,460 --> 02:56:00,920
the people.

5035
02:56:01,320 --> 02:56:02,580
And so they use that as a way

5036
02:56:02,580 --> 02:56:04,440
to go into the most remote parts of

5037
02:56:04,440 --> 02:56:04,740
Africa.

5038
02:56:04,900 --> 02:56:06,400
When you look at it on paper, it

5039
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:07,300
all looks really good.

5040
02:56:07,580 --> 02:56:11,000
But they're actually wolf in sheep's clothing.

5041
02:56:11,520 --> 02:56:15,140
They are using that open access, sounding humanitarian,

5042
02:56:15,640 --> 02:56:17,640
to constantly destabilize governments.

5043
02:56:18,140 --> 02:56:20,280
I can tell you right now, the majority

5044
02:56:20,280 --> 02:56:22,600
of African leaders, and not just African leaders,

5045
02:56:22,700 --> 02:56:25,340
but leaders in the developing world, are celebrating

5046
02:56:25,340 --> 02:56:27,060
the exit of USAID.

5047
02:56:27,180 --> 02:56:28,960
If you think about it, their sole purpose,

5048
02:56:29,080 --> 02:56:31,060
for example, filling in the gaps in healthcare

5049
02:56:31,060 --> 02:56:32,720
and education, where is the change?

5050
02:56:33,280 --> 02:56:35,960
Show me one country that USAID was in

5051
02:56:35,960 --> 02:56:37,200
and education improved.

5052
02:56:37,620 --> 02:56:40,260
Show me what country where USAID was in

5053
02:56:40,260 --> 02:56:41,340
and healthcare improved.

5054
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:44,220
The social services they're bringing, it's peanuts.

5055
02:56:44,660 --> 02:56:46,280
The American taxpayer needs to know.

5056
02:56:46,680 --> 02:56:48,400
The billions of dollars that are being given

5057
02:56:48,400 --> 02:56:51,060
to USAID, a fraction is making it to

5058
02:56:51,060 --> 02:56:51,380
the people.

5059
02:56:51,380 --> 02:56:52,560
Oh, there you go.

5060
02:56:52,620 --> 02:56:53,800
Straight from the horse's mouth.

5061
02:56:54,160 --> 02:56:55,700
Not like we didn't know that.

5062
02:56:56,360 --> 02:56:56,940
No, we knew it.

5063
02:56:57,020 --> 02:56:58,640
We had a note from one of our

5064
02:56:58,640 --> 02:56:59,120
producers.

5065
02:56:59,340 --> 02:57:01,080
I wish I could find it, because I

5066
02:57:01,080 --> 02:57:03,040
was going to discuss it.

5067
02:57:03,180 --> 02:57:04,600
Yeah, I remember the note.

5068
02:57:04,600 --> 02:57:05,980
We actually got a couple of good notes.

5069
02:57:06,060 --> 02:57:06,760
We got some good notes.

5070
02:57:06,920 --> 02:57:09,860
The guy says he was in Africa, and

5071
02:57:09,860 --> 02:57:12,040
the USAID guys came in with a bunch

5072
02:57:12,040 --> 02:57:12,560
of stuff.

5073
02:57:13,060 --> 02:57:14,180
Mosquito nets, mosquito nets.

5074
02:57:14,300 --> 02:57:15,860
Mosquito nets, and they took a bunch of

5075
02:57:15,860 --> 02:57:16,760
pictures of them.

5076
02:57:17,340 --> 02:57:19,220
Here's the pictures of us with the guys,

5077
02:57:19,220 --> 02:57:21,360
and then they left, and left them high

5078
02:57:21,360 --> 02:57:23,080
and dry, saying they was only there for

5079
02:57:23,080 --> 02:57:23,980
a photo op.

5080
02:57:25,960 --> 02:57:26,360
Yeah.

5081
02:57:27,320 --> 02:57:29,600
Do your AI clips, because then we can

5082
02:57:29,600 --> 02:57:31,700
wrap today's show with that.

5083
02:57:31,840 --> 02:57:33,760
This is the, these clips, I don't know

5084
02:57:33,760 --> 02:57:34,820
if this is going to work with what

5085
02:57:34,820 --> 02:57:36,280
you have to talk about.

5086
02:57:36,420 --> 02:57:37,160
Well, maybe, I don't know.

5087
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:40,120
This is about AI in libraries and the

5088
02:57:40,120 --> 02:57:42,660
benefit that it could provide, and I think

5089
02:57:42,660 --> 02:57:45,180
this is accurate stuff, and this is mostly,

5090
02:57:45,520 --> 02:57:48,420
the first clip is Brewster Cayley, who's the

5091
02:57:48,420 --> 02:57:53,340
head of thearchive.org.

5092
02:57:53,520 --> 02:57:54,500
Is it Cayley?

5093
02:57:54,680 --> 02:57:54,940
Cale?

5094
02:57:55,140 --> 02:57:56,000
Brewster Cale.

5095
02:57:56,000 --> 02:57:56,780
Cale, I think it's pronounced.

5096
02:57:57,040 --> 02:57:59,300
I know the guy, but he won't.

5097
02:57:59,300 --> 02:58:01,080
He won't take your call anymore?

5098
02:58:01,640 --> 02:58:02,660
No, he won't take it.

5099
02:58:02,700 --> 02:58:05,080
Because you're a podcaster, you're a podcaster.

5100
02:58:05,100 --> 02:58:08,260
Yeah, I went from important writer to podcaster,

5101
02:58:08,400 --> 02:58:09,220
and that was the end of that.

5102
02:58:09,320 --> 02:58:11,240
If you were an important writer, award-winning.

5103
02:58:11,240 --> 02:58:12,680
Yeah, I was important, award-winning.

5104
02:58:12,760 --> 02:58:13,620
Instant best seller.

5105
02:58:13,940 --> 02:58:15,240
Instant best, yeah, of course you did.

5106
02:58:15,300 --> 02:58:15,880
I know you did.

5107
02:58:16,520 --> 02:58:18,280
Yeah, instant best seller.

5108
02:58:18,600 --> 02:58:19,140
Yes, instant.

5109
02:58:19,480 --> 02:58:20,340
Here we go.

5110
02:58:20,580 --> 02:58:21,140
You're right.

5111
02:58:21,280 --> 02:58:24,480
We're digitizing all of these pest reports from

5112
02:58:24,480 --> 02:58:27,820
Africa for over the last century, and people

5113
02:58:27,820 --> 02:58:29,900
are probably not gonna be the primary readers

5114
02:58:29,900 --> 02:58:32,220
of this, but our machines can.

5115
02:58:32,780 --> 02:58:34,920
So not only just search engines for going

5116
02:58:34,920 --> 02:58:36,740
and helping people find it and then using

5117
02:58:36,740 --> 02:58:39,900
digital interlibrary loan, which is fantastic and it's

5118
02:58:39,900 --> 02:58:42,120
going on now, but we now have these

5119
02:58:42,120 --> 02:58:46,300
technologies, the AI technologies that allows these to

5120
02:58:46,300 --> 02:58:48,680
be put in new and different ways to

5121
02:58:48,680 --> 02:58:52,480
go and correlate information across texts that have

5122
02:58:52,480 --> 02:58:55,040
spanned over centuries and to be able to

5123
02:58:55,040 --> 02:58:57,940
try to make that more digestible, more learnable,

5124
02:58:58,400 --> 02:59:01,800
more browsable, more interactable than ever before.

5125
02:59:01,980 --> 02:59:05,400
The opportunity of our digital libraries coming and

5126
02:59:05,400 --> 02:59:08,160
being useful to people because of these new

5127
02:59:08,160 --> 02:59:10,300
technologies is just fantastic.

5128
02:59:10,840 --> 02:59:12,260
Oh, was that Brewster?

5129
02:59:13,000 --> 02:59:13,780
I think so.

5130
02:59:13,940 --> 02:59:15,520
Oh, so fantastic.

5131
02:59:15,520 --> 02:59:17,440
It goes on and on with part two.

5132
02:59:17,640 --> 02:59:18,560
There's a three-parter.

5133
02:59:18,780 --> 02:59:20,860
There's not much I can say.

5134
02:59:21,560 --> 02:59:23,500
And are you talking about your own AI

5135
02:59:23,500 --> 02:59:25,180
engine or using somebody else's?

5136
02:59:25,720 --> 02:59:27,960
Well, lots of people are downloading- Hold

5137
02:59:27,960 --> 02:59:28,120
on.

5138
02:59:28,240 --> 02:59:29,620
What it sounds like to me, is he

5139
02:59:29,620 --> 02:59:32,780
pitching selling archive.org to AI companies?

5140
02:59:33,000 --> 02:59:33,940
Is that what I'm hearing here?

5141
02:59:35,280 --> 02:59:37,020
I didn't hear that in the clip, but

5142
02:59:37,020 --> 02:59:38,200
it's quite possible.

5143
02:59:38,940 --> 02:59:40,920
And are you talking about your own AI

5144
02:59:40,920 --> 02:59:42,700
engine or using somebody else's?

5145
02:59:43,400 --> 02:59:45,920
Well, lots of people are downloading lots of

5146
02:59:45,920 --> 02:59:47,640
things from the internet archive and putting them

5147
02:59:47,640 --> 02:59:50,420
in the big commercial systems, but pretty much

5148
02:59:50,420 --> 02:59:52,180
just the open materials because of all the

5149
02:59:52,180 --> 02:59:54,360
copyright and lawsuits problems that we have in

5150
02:59:54,360 --> 02:59:55,200
the United States.

5151
02:59:55,540 --> 03:00:00,560
In Europe, they've specifically encouraged cultural heritage institutions

5152
03:00:00,560 --> 03:00:04,320
and research organizations to work together to use

5153
03:00:04,320 --> 03:00:05,940
these for new and different things.

5154
03:00:05,940 --> 03:00:08,240
So that's why I'm in Amsterdam right now

5155
03:00:08,240 --> 03:00:11,500
working with these research organizations to make use

5156
03:00:11,500 --> 03:00:14,620
of these materials because there's regulatory clarity in

5157
03:00:14,620 --> 03:00:18,220
Europe towards having a blossoming of our library

5158
03:00:18,220 --> 03:00:20,020
collections and bringing them to life.

5159
03:00:21,200 --> 03:00:23,300
He's got an agenda here for sure.

5160
03:00:24,200 --> 03:00:26,360
Well, his agenda is he's getting sued left

5161
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:28,500
and right by these- Yeah, yeah.

5162
03:00:28,660 --> 03:00:31,880
Well, and I can't say it's, I mean,

5163
03:00:32,980 --> 03:00:34,520
whenever, here's a little trick.

5164
03:00:34,960 --> 03:00:37,320
I have a, this is a tip of

5165
03:00:37,320 --> 03:00:37,640
the day.

5166
03:00:38,360 --> 03:00:39,920
I have a browser plugin.

5167
03:00:40,220 --> 03:00:42,180
It's called ArchivePage.

5168
03:00:43,340 --> 03:00:45,800
And I have it on my Bravo browser.

5169
03:00:47,760 --> 03:00:49,940
And so whenever I hit a Wall Street,

5170
03:00:51,000 --> 03:00:55,100
whenever I hit a Wall Street Journal article

5171
03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:59,240
or anything like that, I hit my ArchivePage

5172
03:00:59,240 --> 03:01:04,460
browser plugin and it will immediately find that

5173
03:01:04,460 --> 03:01:06,660
page, which has then been archived by someone

5174
03:01:06,660 --> 03:01:09,600
who apparently paid for it or archived it

5175
03:01:09,600 --> 03:01:11,320
before it was behind whatever paywall.

5176
03:01:11,640 --> 03:01:13,700
And boom, you got the whole page right

5177
03:01:13,700 --> 03:01:13,900
there.

5178
03:01:13,940 --> 03:01:15,000
You can read it, no problem.

5179
03:01:16,760 --> 03:01:18,000
That is a good tip.

5180
03:01:19,100 --> 03:01:21,580
Somebody else sent a similar tip that I'm

5181
03:01:21,580 --> 03:01:23,360
not gonna use today, but maybe we should

5182
03:01:23,360 --> 03:01:24,880
gang him up and do the two tips

5183
03:01:24,880 --> 03:01:27,380
in an upcoming show.

5184
03:01:28,280 --> 03:01:30,080
Let's wrap it with the third of these

5185
03:01:30,080 --> 03:01:30,420
clips.

5186
03:01:30,420 --> 03:01:31,840
I want to look at another aspect of

5187
03:01:31,840 --> 03:01:33,380
this, which is that we shouldn't forget that

5188
03:01:33,380 --> 03:01:36,260
libraries preserve and make available many things other

5189
03:01:36,260 --> 03:01:37,440
than books or magazines.

5190
03:01:37,900 --> 03:01:40,220
For example, at the US Library of Congress,

5191
03:01:40,400 --> 03:01:42,460
less than a quarter of the objects held

5192
03:01:42,460 --> 03:01:43,620
are books.

5193
03:01:44,140 --> 03:01:46,940
So what about webpages, for instance, Bruce?

5194
03:01:47,020 --> 03:01:49,760
They do tend to appear and disappear with

5195
03:01:49,760 --> 03:01:50,980
alarming speed, don't they?

5196
03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:53,860
The average life of a webpage is about

5197
03:01:53,860 --> 03:01:56,380
100 days before it's changed or deleted.

5198
03:01:56,760 --> 03:01:59,140
It completely changes how we go and build

5199
03:01:59,140 --> 03:01:59,700
our collections.

5200
03:01:59,700 --> 03:02:02,240
We have to do it preemptively, just in

5201
03:02:02,240 --> 03:02:03,500
case it might be useful.

5202
03:02:03,980 --> 03:02:07,340
We collect over one billion URLs every day.

5203
03:02:07,720 --> 03:02:10,860
The number of webpages in the Wayback Machine

5204
03:02:11,180 --> 03:02:13,280
is now 900 billion.

5205
03:02:13,780 --> 03:02:15,400
The scale of it is a little hard

5206
03:02:15,400 --> 03:02:18,760
to understand, but it's just trying to record

5207
03:02:18,760 --> 03:02:21,900
what's going on out there just so that

5208
03:02:21,900 --> 03:02:24,600
we can basically have our own history.

5209
03:02:24,960 --> 03:02:28,840
Just requires a different view of how we

5210
03:02:28,840 --> 03:02:32,920
see our old-fashioned trade of archivists and

5211
03:02:32,920 --> 03:02:33,440
librarians.

5212
03:02:34,040 --> 03:02:34,480
Huh.

5213
03:02:35,940 --> 03:02:38,220
Well, I certainly think he has an awesome

5214
03:02:38,220 --> 03:02:38,820
index.

5215
03:02:39,540 --> 03:02:41,980
He has a very crappy way to search.

5216
03:02:42,760 --> 03:02:43,600
I mean, unless you have a- Oh,

5217
03:02:43,640 --> 03:02:45,300
it's just out of, the search is no

5218
03:02:45,300 --> 03:02:45,520
good.

5219
03:02:45,580 --> 03:02:47,040
It's no good, but this is- In

5220
03:02:47,040 --> 03:02:48,920
fact, if you could really search that thing,

5221
03:02:49,000 --> 03:02:51,100
there's a lot of value in that.

5222
03:02:51,660 --> 03:02:53,660
In fact, they also have, the thing about

5223
03:02:53,660 --> 03:02:55,880
that collection is he has a collection of

5224
03:02:55,880 --> 03:02:56,780
78s.

5225
03:02:56,780 --> 03:02:58,660
Yes, we've talked about this.

5226
03:02:59,740 --> 03:03:00,120
It is unbelievable.

5227
03:03:00,600 --> 03:03:01,940
And not only that, but he has a

5228
03:03:01,940 --> 03:03:04,360
bunch of these nut balls out there who

5229
03:03:04,360 --> 03:03:06,020
have fixed a lot of these, I mean,

5230
03:03:06,040 --> 03:03:08,700
using modern- Technologies.

5231
03:03:09,200 --> 03:03:09,300
Software.

5232
03:03:11,120 --> 03:03:12,900
Fixed a lot of the 78s so there's

5233
03:03:12,900 --> 03:03:15,420
no pops or crackles or, and the fidelity's

5234
03:03:15,420 --> 03:03:15,700
better.

5235
03:03:15,860 --> 03:03:15,980
Yeah.

5236
03:03:17,020 --> 03:03:18,520
You have to, it's a lot of work

5237
03:03:18,520 --> 03:03:21,520
to do any of those, let alone a

5238
03:03:21,520 --> 03:03:22,000
lot of them.

5239
03:03:22,040 --> 03:03:23,380
And there's two or three guys that have

5240
03:03:23,380 --> 03:03:24,900
been doing it just kind of consistently.

5241
03:03:24,900 --> 03:03:26,760
I guess maybe they do a few every

5242
03:03:26,760 --> 03:03:27,120
day.

5243
03:03:27,420 --> 03:03:28,820
Well, you know, when the- But the

5244
03:03:28,820 --> 03:03:31,000
collection of 78s is unbelievable.

5245
03:03:31,240 --> 03:03:33,800
Do you remember when the MTV News webpage

5246
03:03:33,800 --> 03:03:35,180
just went off the air?

5247
03:03:35,720 --> 03:03:36,280
Yeah.

5248
03:03:36,600 --> 03:03:40,360
I downloaded the entire archive of the MTV

5249
03:03:40,360 --> 03:03:43,220
News website from archive.org.

5250
03:03:43,540 --> 03:03:45,880
There's a couple of really good scripts out

5251
03:03:45,880 --> 03:03:46,180
there.

5252
03:03:46,360 --> 03:03:49,100
I mean, because it's basically an open source

5253
03:03:49,100 --> 03:03:52,480
resource, it would be fantastic for Anthropic or

5254
03:03:52,480 --> 03:03:55,900
someone to really put a good search engine

5255
03:03:55,900 --> 03:03:56,760
on top of that.

5256
03:03:57,260 --> 03:04:00,000
In fact, this is the trend as Google

5257
03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:02,460
is about to do this very thing.

5258
03:04:02,620 --> 03:04:04,140
Google has introduced a new feature.

5259
03:04:04,220 --> 03:04:06,200
And this of course is a story about

5260
03:04:06,200 --> 03:04:07,500
AI read by AI.

5261
03:04:07,640 --> 03:04:10,380
Called AI mode, which is an advanced chat

5262
03:04:10,380 --> 03:04:12,200
bot designed to answer search queries.

5263
03:04:12,600 --> 03:04:15,060
This update is seen as Google's direct response

5264
03:04:15,060 --> 03:04:18,440
to competitors like ChatGPT, which have been gaining

5265
03:04:18,440 --> 03:04:19,100
popularity.

5266
03:04:19,560 --> 03:04:21,860
When users ask a question in AI mode,

5267
03:04:22,300 --> 03:04:25,220
Google's Gemini 2.0 AI model generates a

5268
03:04:25,220 --> 03:04:25,840
detailed answer.

5269
03:04:26,620 --> 03:04:28,940
This AI system allows users to ask follow

5270
03:04:28,940 --> 03:04:31,660
-up questions or request additional links for more

5271
03:04:31,660 --> 03:04:32,120
information.

5272
03:04:32,820 --> 03:04:35,400
Google explains that AI mode is designed to

5273
03:04:35,400 --> 03:04:39,220
simplify complex topics by organizing data and presenting

5274
03:04:39,220 --> 03:04:41,260
it in a clear and easy to understand

5275
03:04:41,260 --> 03:04:41,680
format.

5276
03:04:42,280 --> 03:04:44,420
The company is making major improvements to its

5277
03:04:44,420 --> 03:04:47,020
search engine by integrating the latest version of

5278
03:04:47,020 --> 03:04:48,200
its artificial intelligence.

5279
03:04:48,200 --> 03:04:50,880
This change is part of Google's effort to

5280
03:04:50,880 --> 03:04:53,560
provide faster and more expert level answers to

5281
03:04:53,560 --> 03:04:53,900
users.

5282
03:04:54,600 --> 03:04:56,840
Competition in the AI search industry has been

5283
03:04:56,840 --> 03:05:00,460
increasing with smaller companies creating innovative ways to

5284
03:05:00,460 --> 03:05:01,520
deliver search results.

5285
03:05:02,140 --> 03:05:04,380
To stay ahead, Google has decided to enhance

5286
03:05:04,380 --> 03:05:07,420
its search engine with more powerful AI capabilities.

5287
03:05:08,040 --> 03:05:10,680
The Gemini 2.0 AI model will now

5288
03:05:10,680 --> 03:05:13,820
be used to answer complicated questions, especially those

5289
03:05:13,820 --> 03:05:16,540
related to subjects like computer programming and mathematics.

5290
03:05:17,000 --> 03:05:18,000
And there it is.

5291
03:05:18,060 --> 03:05:20,300
So first of all, yes, I just said

5292
03:05:20,300 --> 03:05:21,280
it's an AI voice.

5293
03:05:21,380 --> 03:05:22,660
Everyone's like, this voice is AI.

5294
03:05:23,100 --> 03:05:24,660
Okay, are you listening to the show?

5295
03:05:25,820 --> 03:05:33,700
So I decided to use multiple AIs, including

5296
03:05:33,700 --> 03:05:34,780
ChatGPT.

5297
03:05:35,400 --> 03:05:38,380
I did not get, not try Copilot because

5298
03:05:38,380 --> 03:05:39,140
I had a project.

5299
03:05:39,300 --> 03:05:40,700
I had a- About Grok.

5300
03:05:41,200 --> 03:05:43,940
No, I had a computer coding project and

5301
03:05:43,940 --> 03:05:45,980
this is what it's supposed to be good

5302
03:05:45,980 --> 03:05:46,200
at.

5303
03:05:46,740 --> 03:05:49,820
And so I run a little streaming radio

5304
03:05:49,820 --> 03:05:53,260
station called hellofred.fm, and I run it

5305
03:05:53,260 --> 03:05:56,960
on a radio program called Station Playlist.

5306
03:05:57,880 --> 03:05:59,640
And then so it streams and you can

5307
03:05:59,640 --> 03:06:01,960
schedule, do clocks, you know, when you want

5308
03:06:01,960 --> 03:06:04,460
a jingle or a different format of music,

5309
03:06:04,580 --> 03:06:05,160
all that stuff.

5310
03:06:05,760 --> 03:06:08,600
And I was really interested in putting this

5311
03:06:08,600 --> 03:06:11,220
on a Unix server and using something called

5312
03:06:11,220 --> 03:06:15,120
Liquid Soap, which is a very, very extensive

5313
03:06:15,120 --> 03:06:15,700
program.

5314
03:06:15,940 --> 03:06:18,140
It has this whole, it's a complete programming

5315
03:06:18,140 --> 03:06:18,620
language.

5316
03:06:18,820 --> 03:06:19,860
It's all open source.

5317
03:06:20,460 --> 03:06:22,380
Thousands of people have worked on this.

5318
03:06:22,420 --> 03:06:24,120
There's extensive documentation.

5319
03:06:24,520 --> 03:06:27,300
All the syntax is very well documented, very

5320
03:06:27,300 --> 03:06:27,880
well known.

5321
03:06:28,780 --> 03:06:30,540
And so I'm able to set up the

5322
03:06:30,540 --> 03:06:33,500
server and get a basic system where it

5323
03:06:33,500 --> 03:06:35,780
just, you know, plays one song after another.

5324
03:06:35,940 --> 03:06:38,620
But then I want to script and have

5325
03:06:38,620 --> 03:06:40,340
transitions work a certain way.

5326
03:06:40,340 --> 03:06:41,720
I want it to pull, you know, I

5327
03:06:41,720 --> 03:06:42,580
want to be able to put in a

5328
03:06:42,580 --> 03:06:44,920
format, way which songs, you know, how many

5329
03:06:44,920 --> 03:06:47,160
song separation, that kind of stuff.

5330
03:06:47,900 --> 03:06:49,840
And I just can't figure it out.

5331
03:06:49,920 --> 03:06:53,300
So I go to the AIs and it's

5332
03:06:53,300 --> 03:06:53,800
very friendly.

5333
03:06:53,940 --> 03:06:55,620
Oh, sure, Adam, I can, and it calls

5334
03:06:55,620 --> 03:06:56,300
me by my name.

5335
03:06:56,580 --> 03:06:58,020
Adam, I can help you with this, no

5336
03:06:58,020 --> 03:06:58,400
problem.

5337
03:06:58,740 --> 03:07:01,800
I spent almost all of Monday and Tuesday

5338
03:07:02,600 --> 03:07:04,720
trying to just get this thing to do

5339
03:07:04,720 --> 03:07:06,480
a different type of crossfade.

5340
03:07:07,020 --> 03:07:09,720
And it took, I think I must have

5341
03:07:09,720 --> 03:07:13,160
over 300 prompts and replies and I keep

5342
03:07:13,160 --> 03:07:15,240
putting the error and it kept getting an

5343
03:07:15,240 --> 03:07:16,960
error and then another error.

5344
03:07:17,220 --> 03:07:18,540
And then all of a sudden, well, you

5345
03:07:18,540 --> 03:07:20,360
have the wrong version of FFmpeg.

5346
03:07:20,640 --> 03:07:23,320
So I'm recompiling FFmpeg from source.

5347
03:07:23,500 --> 03:07:24,720
And then it's like, well, you need to

5348
03:07:24,720 --> 03:07:25,980
recompile the kernel.

5349
03:07:26,720 --> 03:07:29,180
None of these things could actually help me

5350
03:07:29,180 --> 03:07:30,940
write a successful script.

5351
03:07:31,200 --> 03:07:32,260
It sucks.

5352
03:07:32,860 --> 03:07:34,400
This is the whole point.

5353
03:07:34,400 --> 03:07:36,560
It's supposed to make people be able to

5354
03:07:36,560 --> 03:07:37,020
code.

5355
03:07:37,720 --> 03:07:39,720
Mathematics, code, they said it right there.

5356
03:07:40,260 --> 03:07:40,700
It doesn't.

5357
03:07:41,300 --> 03:07:42,420
It does a horrible job.

5358
03:07:42,700 --> 03:07:43,480
Walk right into it.

5359
03:07:43,640 --> 03:07:45,680
And I even said, here's the document.

5360
03:07:45,740 --> 03:07:47,400
Oh, yes, I'm very aware of this documentation.

5361
03:07:48,020 --> 03:07:49,800
And then it would be like, oh no,

5362
03:07:50,080 --> 03:07:51,320
it seems like we have a problem.

5363
03:07:51,580 --> 03:07:53,680
You're using a different version of what time

5364
03:07:53,680 --> 03:07:56,100
to step down from FFmpeg 5.5.1

5365
03:07:56,100 --> 03:07:59,000
to 4.4.7. It sucks.

5366
03:07:59,740 --> 03:08:01,300
It is a time waste.

5367
03:08:01,460 --> 03:08:03,160
I could have learned the language in the

5368
03:08:03,160 --> 03:08:04,480
amount of time I put into it.

5369
03:08:05,060 --> 03:08:06,780
What a horrible experience.

5370
03:08:07,460 --> 03:08:08,840
This is going nowhere.

5371
03:08:09,780 --> 03:08:12,440
And welcome to the No Agenda Grievance section

5372
03:08:12,440 --> 03:08:13,100
of the show.

5373
03:08:14,040 --> 03:08:16,200
I'm gonna show my support by donating to

5374
03:08:16,200 --> 03:08:16,800
No Agenda.

5375
03:08:16,940 --> 03:08:18,680
Imagine all the people who could deal with

5376
03:08:18,680 --> 03:08:18,920
us.

5377
03:08:19,100 --> 03:08:20,080
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

5378
03:08:21,080 --> 03:08:26,760
Yeah, on No Agenda, in the morning.

5379
03:08:27,440 --> 03:08:29,040
I missed a semicolon somewhere.

5380
03:08:29,360 --> 03:08:30,180
Yeah, that's right.

5381
03:08:30,940 --> 03:08:33,540
And by the way, we're talking about grievance.

5382
03:08:33,620 --> 03:08:36,040
I have a grievance with today's donation segment.

5383
03:08:36,340 --> 03:08:38,380
We had a total of 30 donors.

5384
03:08:38,540 --> 03:08:39,500
This is crazy.

5385
03:08:39,900 --> 03:08:40,900
This is really crazy.

5386
03:08:41,280 --> 03:08:43,540
It's the shortest list we've ever had, I'd

5387
03:08:43,540 --> 03:08:44,800
say for at least two years.

5388
03:08:45,460 --> 03:08:45,820
Yeah.

5389
03:08:46,200 --> 03:08:51,160
And I'll read the ones starting with entry

5390
03:08:51,160 --> 03:08:55,900
number 10, actually, and take it to entry

5391
03:08:55,900 --> 03:08:57,440
number 30, and that would be the total

5392
03:08:57,440 --> 03:08:58,020
for the day.

5393
03:08:58,340 --> 03:08:58,680
Wow.

5394
03:08:59,180 --> 03:09:01,300
Mark Lane, Houston, Texas, starts us off at

5395
03:09:01,300 --> 03:09:02,680
199, and John W.

5396
03:09:02,760 --> 03:09:07,280
Schumann in Madison, Wisconsin, 184.29. Sir Ever

5397
03:09:07,280 --> 03:09:12,080
of the Watt in Linwood, Michigan, $130.03.

5398
03:09:13,760 --> 03:09:16,000
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is right away at

5399
03:09:16,000 --> 03:09:16,880
8008.

5400
03:09:17,040 --> 03:09:20,620
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America

5401
03:09:20,620 --> 03:09:22,020
and lover of boobs.

5402
03:09:22,240 --> 03:09:22,540
Boobs?

5403
03:09:23,800 --> 03:09:25,600
Tim Kwan, 75.

5404
03:09:26,000 --> 03:09:29,180
He actually came in with a Weiss, somehow

5405
03:09:29,180 --> 03:09:30,800
he managed to get Weiss approved.

5406
03:09:31,140 --> 03:09:33,420
Weiss is a weird app, but it basically

5407
03:09:33,420 --> 03:09:37,580
does an ACH transfer somehow.

5408
03:09:38,160 --> 03:09:39,660
Well, if you do that, set it up

5409
03:09:39,660 --> 03:09:40,260
at your bank.

5410
03:09:40,320 --> 03:09:41,460
If you do it the other way around,

5411
03:09:41,520 --> 03:09:43,680
where you have to put the onus on

5412
03:09:43,680 --> 03:09:45,800
the show, it can't get, we can't get

5413
03:09:45,800 --> 03:09:45,900
it.

5414
03:09:45,900 --> 03:09:46,520
No, of course not.

5415
03:09:46,720 --> 03:09:47,580
We can't get anything with our bank.

5416
03:09:47,580 --> 03:09:49,020
I'd like to know, I'd like Tim to

5417
03:09:49,020 --> 03:09:50,720
tell me what his process was.

5418
03:09:50,720 --> 03:09:52,260
We can't get anything done with our bank.

5419
03:09:53,300 --> 03:09:53,640
No.

5420
03:09:53,800 --> 03:09:54,500
I love our bank.

5421
03:09:54,500 --> 03:09:56,920
The bank is just like, hey, you got

5422
03:09:56,920 --> 03:09:58,360
cash, we'll take your cash.

5423
03:09:58,440 --> 03:09:58,980
We'll take your cash.

5424
03:09:58,980 --> 03:10:00,260
We'll take a check, we'll take your cash.

5425
03:10:00,320 --> 03:10:00,900
What else you got?

5426
03:10:00,980 --> 03:10:02,400
You can write a check, you want gold

5427
03:10:02,400 --> 03:10:02,780
bars.

5428
03:10:02,920 --> 03:10:04,140
All right, shut up already.

5429
03:10:04,360 --> 03:10:05,260
That's exactly right.

5430
03:10:06,540 --> 03:10:10,560
Jose Perretti's in Wichita, Kansas, 69.33. He

5431
03:10:10,560 --> 03:10:11,600
needs a de-douching.

5432
03:10:13,540 --> 03:10:15,160
You've been de-douched.

5433
03:10:16,120 --> 03:10:17,700
And he's got a birthday coming up and

5434
03:10:17,700 --> 03:10:18,360
he's on the list.

5435
03:10:18,500 --> 03:10:21,540
Bruno Freitas Das San something.

5436
03:10:23,200 --> 03:10:24,600
Das, I don't have it on here.

5437
03:10:24,840 --> 03:10:25,040
Hold on.

5438
03:10:25,440 --> 03:10:27,820
Bruno Freitas Das Santos.

5439
03:10:28,400 --> 03:10:31,720
Das Santos in San Francisco, 5,272, which

5440
03:10:31,720 --> 03:10:32,780
is a $50 donation.

5441
03:10:32,900 --> 03:10:35,980
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina, 5,272.

5442
03:10:36,080 --> 03:10:39,760
Tom Flynn in Beaverton, Oregon, 5,272.

5443
03:10:39,820 --> 03:10:40,820
And he says, great show.

5444
03:10:41,700 --> 03:10:46,080
Eric Hochul, our buddy in Mulrose, Mulrose, Deutschland,

5445
03:10:46,300 --> 03:10:46,760
52.

5446
03:10:47,940 --> 03:10:49,480
Now we have the 50, we're already at

5447
03:10:49,480 --> 03:10:50,600
the 50s and here we go.

5448
03:10:50,980 --> 03:10:55,540
Starting with Brett Denton in Boise, Melissa Alvarez

5449
03:10:55,540 --> 03:10:58,940
in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.

5450
03:10:59,480 --> 03:11:01,340
Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas.

5451
03:11:01,960 --> 03:11:05,140
George Ushet in La Vernia, Texas.

5452
03:11:06,320 --> 03:11:10,180
Jacqueline Connelly in Green Bay, Go Packers, Wisconsin.

5453
03:11:10,780 --> 03:11:12,760
Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York.

5454
03:11:13,580 --> 03:11:17,440
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.

5455
03:11:17,440 --> 03:11:19,940
Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas.

5456
03:11:20,240 --> 03:11:21,820
A lot of people in Spring, Texas.

5457
03:11:23,140 --> 03:11:25,580
Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana.

5458
03:11:25,900 --> 03:11:29,280
Alan Bean, Baron Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon.

5459
03:11:29,500 --> 03:11:31,480
And last on our list, a Baroness Knight

5460
03:11:31,480 --> 03:11:32,880
in Edmonds, Washington.

5461
03:11:33,020 --> 03:11:35,480
And that's the short list for today's show.

5462
03:11:35,560 --> 03:11:37,140
Want to thank them for helping us out

5463
03:11:37,140 --> 03:11:37,540
on show.

5464
03:11:37,880 --> 03:11:40,960
Of all shows, 1750, a landmark show.

5465
03:11:41,160 --> 03:11:44,080
Yeah, and well, we did have, thank God,

5466
03:11:44,080 --> 03:11:47,340
we had one show number donation.

5467
03:11:47,540 --> 03:11:48,740
Man, step it up, people.

5468
03:11:49,560 --> 03:11:53,540
And please check your recurring donations because they're

5469
03:11:53,540 --> 03:11:56,260
falling off dramatically as they expire when your

5470
03:11:56,260 --> 03:11:57,820
credit card or something else expires.

5471
03:11:57,820 --> 03:11:58,380
Yes, we lost a lot of those.

5472
03:11:58,480 --> 03:11:59,620
I think that makes a big difference.

5473
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:01,660
And we do have to give, I don't

5474
03:12:01,660 --> 03:12:03,300
know why he did this, but he came

5475
03:12:03,300 --> 03:12:06,360
in at $49.99, but he wants, this

5476
03:12:06,360 --> 03:12:07,480
is Dennis down below.

5477
03:12:07,900 --> 03:12:09,660
He's just had hemorrhoid surgery.

5478
03:12:10,020 --> 03:12:10,360
Ouch.

5479
03:12:10,540 --> 03:12:12,420
He says it's been six weeks of five

5480
03:12:12,420 --> 03:12:16,060
hours of diffusingly pain after I poop.

5481
03:12:17,360 --> 03:12:19,060
I mean, the pain is unbearable.

5482
03:12:19,220 --> 03:12:21,080
I'm on this and that.

5483
03:12:21,160 --> 03:12:21,260
Oh my goodness.

5484
03:12:21,260 --> 03:12:22,460
He says that he's not cutting it.

5485
03:12:22,920 --> 03:12:26,300
I know I'm not a big donor, under

5486
03:12:26,300 --> 03:12:28,020
50 every year, but if you guys can

5487
03:12:28,020 --> 03:12:29,780
give me some health karma, that would be

5488
03:12:29,780 --> 03:12:30,420
great.

5489
03:12:30,720 --> 03:12:33,180
Yes, I'm going to give him some health

5490
03:12:33,180 --> 03:12:35,880
karma right now because, man, especially after you

5491
03:12:35,880 --> 03:12:36,820
poop, that's no good.

5492
03:12:36,900 --> 03:12:37,620
Here you go, buddy.

5493
03:12:37,900 --> 03:12:39,500
You've got karma.

5494
03:12:40,380 --> 03:12:41,520
He's in Puerto Rico.

5495
03:12:41,520 --> 03:12:42,700
All right.

5496
03:12:42,800 --> 03:12:44,380
Thank you very much to these donors, $50

5497
03:12:44,380 --> 03:12:47,460
and above, including our executive and associate executive

5498
03:12:47,460 --> 03:12:47,820
producers.

5499
03:12:48,280 --> 03:12:50,180
Please help us out by going to noagendashow

5500
03:12:50,180 --> 03:12:54,560
.com and donating something to us.

5501
03:12:54,660 --> 03:12:55,300
Support the show.

5502
03:12:55,960 --> 03:12:58,880
We have no other way of making this

5503
03:12:58,880 --> 03:13:00,120
continue for four more years.

5504
03:13:00,560 --> 03:13:01,600
noagendadonations.com.

5505
03:13:01,660 --> 03:13:02,660
Thank you all very much.

5506
03:13:02,760 --> 03:13:06,640
♪ It's your birthday, birthday ♪ ♪ On

5507
03:13:06,640 --> 03:13:09,360
No Agenda ♪ Kaitlin Myers says happy birthday

5508
03:13:09,360 --> 03:13:10,420
to Lady Linda.

5509
03:13:10,420 --> 03:13:11,640
She celebrates today.

5510
03:13:11,760 --> 03:13:14,800
Michelle Niva says happy birthday to Nora Niva,

5511
03:13:14,900 --> 03:13:18,560
and she turns 21 on, what is it,

5512
03:13:18,580 --> 03:13:19,180
on Saturday.

5513
03:13:20,160 --> 03:13:22,260
Jose Paredes on the 29th.

5514
03:13:22,280 --> 03:13:23,740
That's also on Saturday.

5515
03:13:24,160 --> 03:13:26,740
And some health karma for Denise Denise.

5516
03:13:26,920 --> 03:13:28,960
Oh, that's not a birthday, but I will

5517
03:13:28,960 --> 03:13:29,980
add that in just a moment.

5518
03:13:30,060 --> 03:13:31,860
But first let me say happy birthday to

5519
03:13:31,860 --> 03:13:33,400
these people on behalf of everyone here at

5520
03:13:33,400 --> 03:13:35,120
the best podcast in the universe.

5521
03:13:35,260 --> 03:13:36,920
♪ It's your birthday, yeah ♪ Let me

5522
03:13:36,920 --> 03:13:38,500
do that health karma for her right away.

5523
03:13:39,100 --> 03:13:40,560
You've got karma.

5524
03:13:40,800 --> 03:13:43,260
There we go, because we do have a

5525
03:13:43,260 --> 03:13:44,240
title change here.

5526
03:13:44,260 --> 03:13:45,200
I'm gonna read the note first.

5527
03:13:45,740 --> 03:13:48,800
This is Richard of Tasmania.

5528
03:13:49,020 --> 03:13:51,760
He says, Adam and John, thanks for accepting

5529
03:13:51,760 --> 03:13:54,560
Australian dollar dues as real money.

5530
03:13:56,260 --> 03:13:58,500
You do a better job than our useless

5531
03:13:58,500 --> 03:14:01,200
government by respecting our dodgy currency that way.

5532
03:14:01,540 --> 03:14:03,080
I'm a recurring producer in your show and

5533
03:14:03,080 --> 03:14:04,760
I've earned enough to experience to be a

5534
03:14:04,760 --> 03:14:05,620
level two knight.

5535
03:14:06,060 --> 03:14:08,640
Benefits include a healthy amygdala, increased resistance to

5536
03:14:08,640 --> 03:14:11,540
propaganda and improved ability to detect gas lighting.

5537
03:14:12,900 --> 03:14:13,920
Thank you very much.

5538
03:14:14,000 --> 03:14:17,520
So he becomes a, well, it says layaway

5539
03:14:17,520 --> 03:14:18,540
title change.

5540
03:14:18,820 --> 03:14:20,580
So I'm not sure what he becomes.

5541
03:14:20,680 --> 03:14:21,700
Oh, baronet, there we go.

5542
03:14:22,000 --> 03:14:23,280
He becomes a baronet.

5543
03:14:23,500 --> 03:14:25,880
So let me just, let me, might as

5544
03:14:25,880 --> 03:14:26,560
well give you the jingle.

5545
03:14:31,980 --> 03:14:33,820
I could have done the whole thing in

5546
03:14:33,820 --> 03:14:34,200
the music.

5547
03:14:34,340 --> 03:14:36,660
Anyway, thanks very much, Richard of Tasmania.

5548
03:14:36,660 --> 03:14:40,300
Congratulations, you are now baronet, Sir Richard of

5549
03:14:40,300 --> 03:14:40,980
Tasmania.

5550
03:14:41,140 --> 03:14:43,040
And we do have a Commodore coming in

5551
03:14:43,040 --> 03:14:43,340
today.

5552
03:14:44,160 --> 03:14:46,920
This would be the Archduke of Central Florida

5553
03:14:46,920 --> 03:14:48,460
who stepped it up once again.

5554
03:14:48,840 --> 03:14:52,000
So we say, congratulations, you are now a

5555
03:14:52,000 --> 03:14:54,320
Commodore and you are arriving, sir.

5556
03:14:55,420 --> 03:14:56,980
Ooh, very nice.

5557
03:14:57,160 --> 03:15:00,760
Commodore, go to noagenderings.com and there's a

5558
03:15:00,760 --> 03:15:02,220
tab there, a menu item.

5559
03:15:02,300 --> 03:15:04,820
You can give us the address and the

5560
03:15:04,820 --> 03:15:06,500
actual title, but I think it will be

5561
03:15:06,500 --> 03:15:08,000
Commodore Archduke of Central Florida.

5562
03:15:08,160 --> 03:15:08,720
Let us know for sure.

5563
03:15:09,000 --> 03:15:10,000
We'll get it out to you as soon

5564
03:15:10,000 --> 03:15:10,500
as possible.

5565
03:15:10,560 --> 03:15:11,580
They're very, very handsome.

5566
03:15:16,260 --> 03:15:22,180
Hey, we got the North Georgia Monthly Meetup

5567
03:15:22,180 --> 03:15:24,360
at six o'clock today at Cherry Street

5568
03:15:24,360 --> 03:15:25,740
Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.

5569
03:15:25,880 --> 03:15:28,760
We have the Columbia River Basin Monthly Tri

5570
03:15:28,760 --> 03:15:31,680
-Cities Meetup seven o'clock tomorrow at Ty's

5571
03:15:31,680 --> 03:15:34,040
Bar and Grill in West Richland, Washington.

5572
03:15:34,490 --> 03:15:37,400
On Saturday, at one every single day, the

5573
03:15:37,400 --> 03:15:39,520
Magic 33 Toverland Meetup.

5574
03:15:39,820 --> 03:15:41,440
Oh, this is in Zevenum, the Netherlands.

5575
03:15:41,740 --> 03:15:44,200
It's, is that during the, oh, that's at

5576
03:15:44,200 --> 03:15:45,420
10 o'clock in the morning.

5577
03:15:46,520 --> 03:15:50,320
Bring your, bring your alcohol, I guess.

5578
03:15:51,180 --> 03:15:53,820
Toverland, Toverlam II in Zevenum, the Netherlands.

5579
03:15:54,000 --> 03:15:55,240
Okay, 10 o'clock in the morning.

5580
03:15:55,780 --> 03:15:58,820
Also on Saturday, this time in California, all

5581
03:15:58,820 --> 03:16:00,740
aboard the flight of the NOA Agenda Meetup,

5582
03:16:00,740 --> 03:16:03,760
number 61, Leo Bravo's organizing at Santa Fe

5583
03:16:03,760 --> 03:16:06,160
Express Cafe in Fullerton, California.

5584
03:16:06,540 --> 03:16:08,700
The Hipsters, Trolls, and Producers of NOA Agenda

5585
03:16:08,700 --> 03:16:11,300
Brooklyn Meetup in Brooklyn, New York at Wing

5586
03:16:11,300 --> 03:16:11,600
Bar.

5587
03:16:12,700 --> 03:16:14,900
That's, definitely check that out on Saturday, 3

5588
03:16:14,900 --> 03:16:16,300
.33 Eastern time.

5589
03:16:16,780 --> 03:16:19,240
Also on Saturday, the Central Ohio Really Late

5590
03:16:19,240 --> 03:16:21,820
St. Paddy's Day Meetup, that's very late, 5

5591
03:16:21,820 --> 03:16:24,380
.30 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.

5592
03:16:24,640 --> 03:16:26,960
And finally, on our next show day, Sunday,

5593
03:16:27,080 --> 03:16:29,840
the TMI EVAC Zone Crossword Puzzle Meetup.

5594
03:16:30,340 --> 03:16:31,860
You'll be doing crossword puzzles, apparently.

5595
03:16:31,860 --> 03:16:34,220
3.30 p.m. at Evergrain Brewing in

5596
03:16:34,220 --> 03:16:35,280
Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.

5597
03:16:35,740 --> 03:16:37,280
And I got a promo here.

5598
03:16:37,440 --> 03:16:39,540
Dad, what's a six-letter word for party

5599
03:16:39,540 --> 03:16:40,660
-like experience?

5600
03:16:41,220 --> 03:16:42,460
Hmm, try meetup.

5601
03:16:42,700 --> 03:16:45,180
Speaking of meetups, there's a TMI EVAC Zone

5602
03:16:45,180 --> 03:16:48,700
Crossword Puzzle Meetup, Sunday, March 28th at Evergrain

5603
03:16:48,700 --> 03:16:51,340
Brewing Company at 3.33 p.m. Hope

5604
03:16:51,340 --> 03:16:53,100
to see everyone there to solve this NOA

5605
03:16:53,100 --> 03:16:54,120
Agenda crossword puzzle.

5606
03:16:54,420 --> 03:16:56,040
What's a nine-letter word for a father

5607
03:16:56,040 --> 03:16:58,400
who exploits his human resources?

5608
03:16:59,940 --> 03:17:00,480
Douchebag!

5609
03:17:01,000 --> 03:17:02,740
Okay, thanks for the promo.

5610
03:17:03,660 --> 03:17:05,300
Go to noagendameetups.com.

5611
03:17:05,380 --> 03:17:07,140
That's where you can find the entire overview

5612
03:17:07,140 --> 03:17:09,140
of all meetups, calendar view, list view.

5613
03:17:09,280 --> 03:17:10,520
You can search by zip code.

5614
03:17:10,600 --> 03:17:11,500
It's all over the world.

5615
03:17:11,600 --> 03:17:13,060
They are producer-organized.

5616
03:17:13,380 --> 03:17:14,980
This is where you get connection that gives

5617
03:17:14,980 --> 03:17:17,020
you protection because everybody you meet at a

5618
03:17:17,020 --> 03:17:18,760
NOA Agenda meetup is going to be your

5619
03:17:18,760 --> 03:17:20,160
first responder in a crisis.

5620
03:17:21,040 --> 03:17:21,840
noagendameetups.com.

5621
03:17:21,920 --> 03:17:23,300
If you can't find one of you, start

5622
03:17:23,300 --> 03:17:23,880
one yourself.

5623
03:17:23,980 --> 03:17:25,100
It's always a party!

5624
03:17:25,100 --> 03:17:28,340
Sometimes you want to go hang out with

5625
03:17:28,340 --> 03:17:31,020
all the nights and days.

5626
03:17:31,940 --> 03:17:34,280
You want to be where you want to

5627
03:17:34,280 --> 03:17:34,740
be.

5628
03:17:34,920 --> 03:17:36,760
Triggered or held to blame.

5629
03:17:37,400 --> 03:17:40,520
You want to be where everybody feels the

5630
03:17:40,520 --> 03:17:41,300
same.

5631
03:17:42,880 --> 03:17:44,560
It's like a party.

5632
03:17:45,460 --> 03:17:46,320
Yo, yo.

5633
03:17:47,180 --> 03:17:49,060
So are you back to regular ISOs now?

5634
03:17:49,140 --> 03:17:50,820
You're no longer doing the AI stuff?

5635
03:17:51,220 --> 03:17:51,480
Are you?

5636
03:17:51,620 --> 03:17:53,020
This time it's a split.

5637
03:17:53,700 --> 03:17:55,240
Let's see what you got.

5638
03:17:56,180 --> 03:17:56,780
Okay, hold on a second.

5639
03:17:56,880 --> 03:17:58,400
I got to correct some of the volumes

5640
03:17:58,400 --> 03:18:00,520
on these because some of the volumes are

5641
03:18:00,520 --> 03:18:01,080
way off.

5642
03:18:01,160 --> 03:18:01,860
Yeah, here's what I got.

5643
03:18:01,940 --> 03:18:03,140
Yeah, that's a great one.

5644
03:18:04,480 --> 03:18:06,180
I got this one.

5645
03:18:06,440 --> 03:18:08,200
Vom for all, all for Vom.

5646
03:18:08,760 --> 03:18:09,900
That was kind of cute.

5647
03:18:10,580 --> 03:18:11,840
And then this one.

5648
03:18:11,960 --> 03:18:13,200
Bye Adam, bye John.

5649
03:18:15,260 --> 03:18:16,900
Not really an ISO, but.

5650
03:18:17,360 --> 03:18:17,800
No.

5651
03:18:18,100 --> 03:18:18,720
Okay, what do you got?

5652
03:18:19,100 --> 03:18:20,260
Here's a real one.

5653
03:18:20,640 --> 03:18:21,100
A real one?

5654
03:18:21,100 --> 03:18:25,360
This is the A, too much.

5655
03:18:29,660 --> 03:18:30,560
It was not good enough.

5656
03:18:30,760 --> 03:18:31,360
It's not too much.

5657
03:18:31,420 --> 03:18:33,500
And then here is the, this is a

5658
03:18:33,500 --> 03:18:33,800
meta.

5659
03:18:34,240 --> 03:18:34,700
Meta?

5660
03:18:35,380 --> 03:18:38,340
Yeah, this is a meta clip and you'll

5661
03:18:38,340 --> 03:18:38,840
hear why.

5662
03:18:39,180 --> 03:18:40,960
I may be fake, but that show was

5663
03:18:40,960 --> 03:18:42,380
real and great.

5664
03:18:44,540 --> 03:18:45,280
What happened?

5665
03:18:45,280 --> 03:18:50,370
I may be fake, but that show was

5666
03:18:50,370 --> 03:18:51,470
real and great.

5667
03:18:53,110 --> 03:18:54,950
I'm so torn about this.

5668
03:18:56,170 --> 03:18:59,530
Oh, oh, oh no, he's torn.

5669
03:18:59,670 --> 03:19:01,290
It is time for John C.

5670
03:19:01,370 --> 03:19:03,030
Dvorak's tip of the day, everybody.

5671
03:19:04,190 --> 03:19:06,710
Great advice for you and me.

5672
03:19:06,890 --> 03:19:11,930
Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

5673
03:19:12,050 --> 03:19:12,770
I'll use it, though.

5674
03:19:12,910 --> 03:19:13,790
Created by Dana Burnetti.

5675
03:19:13,950 --> 03:19:15,350
I'll use it, I'll use it.

5676
03:19:16,510 --> 03:19:18,970
Okay, this is, I got this from two

5677
03:19:18,970 --> 03:19:19,770
different people.

5678
03:19:20,190 --> 03:19:20,490
Oh.

5679
03:19:21,450 --> 03:19:23,190
And, which is always like a sign.

5680
03:19:23,330 --> 03:19:24,450
First time I looked at it, I said,

5681
03:19:24,670 --> 03:19:24,850
no, no, no.

5682
03:19:25,230 --> 03:19:26,770
Then I started really looking at it.

5683
03:19:27,350 --> 03:19:29,250
And I said, holy mackerel, this is actually

5684
03:19:29,250 --> 03:19:30,110
pretty phenomenal.

5685
03:19:31,130 --> 03:19:31,270
Okay.

5686
03:19:31,270 --> 03:19:32,610
But you have to dig, you have to

5687
03:19:32,610 --> 03:19:35,010
go down because all the top, this is

5688
03:19:35,010 --> 03:19:36,530
called, this is a, I don't even know

5689
03:19:36,530 --> 03:19:39,150
where they got this top level domain, but

5690
03:19:39,150 --> 03:19:46,630
the site is tv.garden. tv.garden. I

5691
03:19:46,630 --> 03:19:47,710
want you to go to this.

5692
03:19:50,470 --> 03:19:55,050
Now, it has TV shows from every country

5693
03:19:55,050 --> 03:19:58,090
in the world and it has almost everything

5694
03:19:58,090 --> 03:19:59,690
that you can imagine.

5695
03:19:59,950 --> 03:20:02,570
You can click on the map, you can

5696
03:20:02,570 --> 03:20:03,550
scroll down.

5697
03:20:03,630 --> 03:20:04,650
There's a lot of different ways of doing

5698
03:20:04,650 --> 03:20:04,770
it.

5699
03:20:04,810 --> 03:20:06,530
The map, you can spin it around the

5700
03:20:06,530 --> 03:20:06,890
globe.

5701
03:20:11,250 --> 03:20:13,050
And most of the stuff at the top,

5702
03:20:13,170 --> 03:20:14,190
like for example, you go to the United

5703
03:20:14,190 --> 03:20:16,490
States, the first 10 things at the top

5704
03:20:16,490 --> 03:20:19,790
are all religious programming.

5705
03:20:19,950 --> 03:20:21,270
I think there's a bunch of religious stuff,

5706
03:20:21,410 --> 03:20:23,630
but no, you dig down, you'd go down

5707
03:20:23,630 --> 03:20:28,530
to thousands of stations, including Buena Park Television,

5708
03:20:28,650 --> 03:20:30,450
for example, but I want you to do

5709
03:20:30,450 --> 03:20:30,830
this.

5710
03:20:31,050 --> 03:20:33,030
Go to, either go to the map.

5711
03:20:33,110 --> 03:20:33,750
I'm at the map.

5712
03:20:34,450 --> 03:20:35,570
Okay, hit Canada.

5713
03:20:36,870 --> 03:20:39,270
Okay, I'm gonna hit Canada so hard they

5714
03:20:39,270 --> 03:20:39,990
won't know what hit them.

5715
03:20:40,070 --> 03:20:40,290
Yep.

5716
03:20:41,450 --> 03:20:43,230
Okay, now go to the, on the side,

5717
03:20:43,290 --> 03:20:44,690
you see there's two things in Canada.

5718
03:20:44,690 --> 03:20:47,070
One is Afghan Nobel movies.

5719
03:20:47,070 --> 03:20:49,250
There's a bunch of movies, there's Afghanistan because

5720
03:20:49,250 --> 03:20:51,850
it's alphabetical, so every country's got that.

5721
03:20:52,270 --> 03:20:55,470
Click on the second one, Afghan Nobel TV.

5722
03:20:55,550 --> 03:20:55,850
Okay.

5723
03:20:58,630 --> 03:21:01,650
Hacked by Cyber Dragons team, it says.

5724
03:21:02,310 --> 03:21:02,570
Yeah.

5725
03:21:03,510 --> 03:21:04,610
What is that?

5726
03:21:04,890 --> 03:21:06,570
The page has been hacked.

5727
03:21:06,670 --> 03:21:07,730
The whole page has been hacked.

5728
03:21:07,730 --> 03:21:09,250
And overrun by some group.

5729
03:21:10,370 --> 03:21:10,970
Interesting.

5730
03:21:11,890 --> 03:21:12,210
Yeah.

5731
03:21:12,690 --> 03:21:13,950
Barney the Dinosaur.

5732
03:21:14,810 --> 03:21:16,830
Wow, this is pretty cool.

5733
03:21:17,310 --> 03:21:18,730
It's unbelievable.

5734
03:21:19,170 --> 03:21:19,770
Wow.

5735
03:21:20,330 --> 03:21:21,710
How do they even, how do they even

5736
03:21:21,710 --> 03:21:22,590
get away with this?

5737
03:21:23,430 --> 03:21:24,970
Therein lies the rub.

5738
03:21:25,170 --> 03:21:27,770
I do not believe this site is legal.

5739
03:21:28,090 --> 03:21:29,230
I don't think so either.

5740
03:21:30,050 --> 03:21:34,190
They have everything from every country, every imaginable

5741
03:21:34,190 --> 03:21:36,410
TV feed is on this site.

5742
03:21:37,030 --> 03:21:39,590
So you can watch, they have Milwaukee's local

5743
03:21:39,590 --> 03:21:40,210
station.

5744
03:21:40,810 --> 03:21:43,850
They have everything in Canada.

5745
03:21:44,030 --> 03:21:45,410
I didn't even know half this stuff exists.

5746
03:21:45,550 --> 03:21:48,570
They have every BBC channel, plus stuff in

5747
03:21:48,570 --> 03:21:49,910
England I've never heard of.

5748
03:21:50,570 --> 03:21:52,270
It's just a great site.

5749
03:21:52,350 --> 03:21:54,670
This is a fabulous tip.

5750
03:21:54,930 --> 03:21:57,590
Do they have a Korean, the Korean news

5751
03:21:57,590 --> 03:21:57,870
lady?

5752
03:21:59,510 --> 03:22:00,130
North Korea?

5753
03:22:00,270 --> 03:22:00,970
That's a good question.

5754
03:22:01,070 --> 03:22:01,610
I don't know if they do.

5755
03:22:01,630 --> 03:22:02,150
Yeah, yeah, North Korea.

5756
03:22:02,310 --> 03:22:03,590
We got North Korea, here we go.

5757
03:22:03,670 --> 03:22:04,930
North Korean Central TV.

5758
03:22:07,410 --> 03:22:10,510
I got bars and tone on Pyongyang.

5759
03:22:12,690 --> 03:22:14,570
That is an amazing tip.

5760
03:22:14,710 --> 03:22:17,510
I'm now, you thought I was deep into

5761
03:22:17,510 --> 03:22:18,050
my code.

5762
03:22:18,150 --> 03:22:19,230
I'm going to be playing with this for

5763
03:22:19,230 --> 03:22:20,050
the rest of the day.

5764
03:22:21,030 --> 03:22:22,070
That is amazing.

5765
03:22:22,110 --> 03:22:24,870
They just got North Korea, Korean Central Television.

5766
03:22:25,370 --> 03:22:26,590
What a great tip.

5767
03:22:26,850 --> 03:22:28,830
Another fantastic tip, John.

5768
03:22:28,910 --> 03:22:30,030
You have outdone yourself.

5769
03:22:30,230 --> 03:22:32,030
I mean, every single time it just keeps

5770
03:22:32,030 --> 03:22:32,770
on getting better.

5771
03:22:32,770 --> 03:22:34,570
You're like a fine wine, my friend.

5772
03:22:35,270 --> 03:22:35,490
Yeah.

5773
03:22:35,750 --> 03:22:37,170
The fine wine of tips.

5774
03:22:37,290 --> 03:22:37,930
It is John C.

5775
03:22:37,990 --> 03:22:40,570
Vorex, tip of the day, tipsoftheday.net, noagendafund

5776
03:22:40,570 --> 03:22:41,410
.com.

5777
03:22:41,970 --> 03:22:44,770
Great advice for you and me.

5778
03:22:44,950 --> 03:22:47,510
Just a tip with JCD.

5779
03:22:48,310 --> 03:22:50,010
And sometimes Adam.

5780
03:22:50,750 --> 03:22:51,830
Created by Dana Brunetti.

5781
03:22:52,530 --> 03:22:55,730
Well now, you've outdone yourself on that one.

5782
03:22:57,830 --> 03:23:01,170
And of course the question is, did you

5783
03:23:01,170 --> 03:23:02,970
click on all the A's and the B's

5784
03:23:02,970 --> 03:23:04,750
before you finally got to Canada to find

5785
03:23:04,750 --> 03:23:05,570
that hack channel?

5786
03:23:06,290 --> 03:23:07,370
Is that what you were doing with your

5787
03:23:07,370 --> 03:23:07,510
time?

5788
03:23:07,750 --> 03:23:09,290
That was just a random walk.

5789
03:23:09,350 --> 03:23:10,990
I hit the hack channel by accident.

5790
03:23:11,390 --> 03:23:11,710
Wow.

5791
03:23:12,530 --> 03:23:13,010
Amazing.

5792
03:23:14,190 --> 03:23:16,870
That concludes our broadcast day for today.

5793
03:23:17,070 --> 03:23:19,050
But we will be very delighted to come

5794
03:23:19,050 --> 03:23:21,310
back and do it all again for you

5795
03:23:21,310 --> 03:23:21,830
on Sunday.

5796
03:23:22,890 --> 03:23:24,490
Clearly with more stuff.

5797
03:23:25,070 --> 03:23:26,010
More stuff.

5798
03:23:26,090 --> 03:23:27,030
There's lots of stuff.

5799
03:23:27,030 --> 03:23:30,070
And your favorite place for world news.

5800
03:23:31,590 --> 03:23:34,450
NOAGENDA World News Service will return on Sunday.

5801
03:23:35,810 --> 03:23:37,490
And the show mix is coming up from

5802
03:23:37,490 --> 03:23:38,870
Professor Jay Jones.

5803
03:23:39,010 --> 03:23:42,450
We've got, oh, Bo's Music.

5804
03:23:42,970 --> 03:23:44,570
He's got a cool little ditty he ever

5805
03:23:44,570 --> 03:23:45,310
hacked together.

5806
03:23:45,530 --> 03:23:48,330
And up next on the NOAGENDAScreenPatrolRoom.io, the

5807
03:23:48,330 --> 03:23:50,330
modern podcast apps, it's Grimerica.

5808
03:23:50,730 --> 03:23:52,990
This is their 700th episode.

5809
03:23:53,230 --> 03:23:54,030
Support those guys.

5810
03:23:54,130 --> 03:23:54,950
They're value for value.

5811
03:23:55,550 --> 03:23:56,770
Coming to you from the heart of the

5812
03:23:56,770 --> 03:23:59,170
Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg.

5813
03:23:59,210 --> 03:24:00,070
In the morning, everybody.

5814
03:24:00,430 --> 03:24:01,150
I'm Adam Curry.

5815
03:24:01,450 --> 03:24:03,730
Down from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain.

5816
03:24:03,970 --> 03:24:05,390
And it looks like it might rain.

5817
03:24:05,650 --> 03:24:06,250
I'm John C.

5818
03:24:06,330 --> 03:24:06,610
Dvorak.

5819
03:24:06,650 --> 03:24:09,750
Remember us at NOAGENDADONATIONS.COM and make it

5820
03:24:09,750 --> 03:24:10,630
great for Sunday.

5821
03:24:10,850 --> 03:24:11,590
We'll see you then.

5822
03:24:11,630 --> 03:24:13,470
Until then, adios, mofos.

5823
03:24:13,550 --> 03:24:15,650
Hui, hui, and such.

5824
03:24:16,010 --> 03:24:17,990
The strength that we have is in this

5825
03:24:17,990 --> 03:24:18,290
moment.

5826
03:24:18,570 --> 03:24:20,230
And what are you doing in this moment?

5827
03:24:20,530 --> 03:24:21,910
Elon Musk is a Nazi.

5828
03:24:22,130 --> 03:24:23,370
Oh, the in this moment.

5829
03:24:23,370 --> 03:24:24,870
There's some kind of mental illness thing going

5830
03:24:24,870 --> 03:24:25,250
on here.

5831
03:24:25,370 --> 03:24:26,490
This doesn't make any sense.

5832
03:24:26,830 --> 03:24:28,590
What is this all about?

5833
03:24:29,190 --> 03:24:29,930
In this moment.

5834
03:24:30,510 --> 03:24:31,510
Bullets are being fired.

5835
03:24:31,650 --> 03:24:33,290
Charging stations are put ablaze.

5836
03:24:33,430 --> 03:24:35,190
Teslas are being put ablaze.

5837
03:24:35,370 --> 03:24:36,910
What is the op here?

5838
03:24:37,190 --> 03:24:38,570
What are they trying to accomplish?

5839
03:24:39,090 --> 03:24:40,450
I don't feel good in this moment.

5840
03:24:40,530 --> 03:24:41,610
How do you feel in this moment?

5841
03:24:41,850 --> 03:24:43,570
Are you guys that lost?

5842
03:24:43,810 --> 03:24:45,490
Does it really come down to the basic?

5843
03:24:45,710 --> 03:24:47,570
What it all comes down to.

5844
03:24:47,590 --> 03:24:48,970
Really what this comes down to.

5845
03:24:49,230 --> 03:24:50,190
It baffles me.

5846
03:24:50,190 --> 03:24:51,750
You said everything's fine.

5847
03:24:51,990 --> 03:24:53,410
Fine, fine, fine.

5848
03:24:54,290 --> 03:24:55,470
Is that what it comes down to?

5849
03:24:56,110 --> 03:24:58,710
What is the best way to avoid war?

5850
03:24:58,890 --> 03:25:01,050
Europe must get ready for war.

5851
03:25:01,150 --> 03:25:02,730
These people are trying to kill us.

5852
03:25:03,090 --> 03:25:05,710
She's making this up as she goes along.

5853
03:25:06,010 --> 03:25:07,670
It's grassroots too, grassroots.

5854
03:25:08,050 --> 03:25:09,530
Grassroots non-violent.

5855
03:25:09,830 --> 03:25:10,970
There is no conspiracy.

5856
03:25:11,630 --> 03:25:13,690
There is no well-funded cabal.

5857
03:25:13,890 --> 03:25:17,310
Volkswagen is retooling one of their closed factories.

5858
03:25:17,690 --> 03:25:19,870
I mean like really friendly fire.

5859
03:25:19,870 --> 03:25:21,830
All out warmonger.

5860
03:25:22,110 --> 03:25:23,390
It's what this moment requires.

5861
03:25:23,590 --> 03:25:24,890
You got that part right.

5862
03:25:25,070 --> 03:25:26,810
Does it really come down to the basic?

5863
03:25:27,130 --> 03:25:28,910
What it all comes down to.

5864
03:25:29,430 --> 03:25:30,810
Really what this comes down to.

5865
03:25:30,950 --> 03:25:31,850
It baffles me.

5866
03:25:32,190 --> 03:25:33,390
You said everything's fine.

5867
03:25:33,650 --> 03:25:34,910
Fine, fine, fine.

5868
03:25:35,210 --> 03:25:36,390
Is that what it comes down to?

5869
03:25:36,570 --> 03:25:38,270
Let's go, let's go, let's go.

5870
03:25:38,890 --> 03:25:40,970
Meanwhile, Dr. Ewell will do bad things.

5871
03:25:44,910 --> 03:25:46,550
Stay in your homes, I repeat.

5872
03:25:47,090 --> 03:25:48,530
Stay in your homes.

5873
03:25:48,920 --> 03:25:51,150
Your personal safety, the safety of the entire

5874
03:25:51,150 --> 03:25:54,690
city depends upon your full cooperation with the

5875
03:25:54,690 --> 03:25:55,710
military authorities.

5876
03:26:18,770 --> 03:26:25,210
What's up, yo, yo, yo, what's up, yo,

5877
03:26:25,430 --> 03:26:34,890
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5878
03:26:34,890 --> 03:26:41,030
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5879
03:26:41,610 --> 03:26:42,130
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5880
03:26:42,130 --> 03:26:46,830
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5881
03:26:47,250 --> 03:26:47,350
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5882
03:26:47,350 --> 03:26:47,450
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5883
03:26:47,450 --> 03:26:47,550
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5884
03:26:47,550 --> 03:26:47,650
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5885
03:26:47,650 --> 03:26:47,750
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5886
03:26:47,750 --> 03:26:47,850
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5887
03:26:47,850 --> 03:26:47,950
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5888
03:26:47,950 --> 03:26:48,050
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5889
03:26:48,050 --> 03:26:55,230
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo Yo,

5890
03:26:55,410 --> 03:27:00,210
yo, yo, what's up, yo, yo, yo, what's

5891
03:27:00,210 --> 03:27:06,870
up, yo, yo, yo, what's up, yo, yo,

5892
03:27:07,250 --> 03:27:14,110
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

5893
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5894
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5895
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5896
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5897
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5898
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5899
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5900
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5901
03:27:21,710 --> 03:27:21,810
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5902
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5903
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yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo Yo, yo,

5904
03:27:22,010 --> 03:27:22,770
yo, what up?

5905
03:27:23,610 --> 03:27:26,730
Which is incredibly white of you, but okay,

5906
03:27:27,050 --> 03:27:27,670
I digress.

5907
03:27:27,670 --> 03:27:29,310
Yeah, of course it is, I'm white, hello!

5908
03:27:32,630 --> 03:27:36,050
The best podcast in the universe!

5909
03:27:36,810 --> 03:27:37,770
Yo, Mopo.

5910
03:27:38,150 --> 03:27:41,990
Dvorak.org slash N-A I may be

5911
03:27:41,990 --> 03:27:44,690
fake, but that show was real, and great.