Yeah, he bled like a little sissy.
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
It's Thursday, February 27th, 2025.
This is your award-winning give on Asian
Media.
Assassination episode 1742.
This is no agenda.
Confusing, chaotic, and broadcasting live from the heart
of the TTCO country here in FEMA region
number 6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where we want
to remind all the kids don't eat dead
bats.
I'm John C.
Devorah.
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, that was a great report.
Do you have that report?
Well, I don't have audio now.
I think I have the report.
Hold on a second.
Yes, it's the mysterious virus in the Congo.
More than 15 people have died in Northwestern
Democratic Republic of Congo because of a mystery
virus.
Mystery.
According to health experts from Bikoro Hospital, a
regional monitoring center, the symptoms resemble those linked
to deadly viruses such as Ebola and dengue.
The outbreak started at the end of January.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Stop.
Stop the clip.
It actually should be Ebola and Marburg.
That's a hemorrhagic...
Well, dengue is kind of, but it's really
hard to get to that point.
I don't know.
It shouldn't be any of this.
This is a bullcrap report.
Well, we know it's a bullcrap report, but
at least put Marburg in.
It's a little scarier than dengue.
The outbreak started at the end of January.
The virus was first discovered in three children
who ate a bat.
No!
More than 400 cases have been recorded so
far.
This is the most racist thing you can
imagine.
This is so racist.
It's like, yes, the little African kids are
so hungry.
They're walking around naked.
You know, these dumb African kids so they
see a dead bat and like any other
child would immediately go eat it.
I mean, come on.
Kids won't even eat vegetables.
Now, who's racist now?
You don't know about the African diet.
They eat bats by the side of the
road.
Oh, no, Jimmy.
Let's go eat the dead bat instead of
going yuck and running away like a kid
would.
I want to meet those kids.
I want an interview with them.
Don't just give me that story.
Give me the background.
I want these kids going, well, you know,
we saw the bat and we said, haven't
had food in five days.
I think we'll eat the bat.
It looks so tasty, this dead bat.
We need more information on this.
We can't just take this at face value.
That's no good.
Hey, I'm going to sum up the week's
M5M because as we have noted on this
program for probably all of our 17 plus
years, the media likes to glom onto one
certain phrase and repeat it over and over
ad nauseam.
And here is this week's phrase.
Tonight, confusion and chaos is spreading within a
number of agencies across the federal government.
Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government.
This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal
government.
This morning, there's more chaos and confusion within
the federal government.
We have been reporting on the chaos and
confusion.
Chaos and confusion has already broken out.
Other than his mega cult, nobody wants this
chaos and confusion.
How do you see this chaos and confusion
ending?
There is a lot of confusion, lots of
chaos.
Of course it's creating chaos and confusion.
The Musk-inspired chaos and confusion in the
federal government sows the seeds of more chaos
and more confusion and more disillusionment.
Oh, chaos and confusion.
That's what it is.
Yeah, I'm glad you got that because I
had a supercut but it was mostly chaos,
chaos, chaos.
But chaos and confusion, that's the clip.
That's the combo.
And alliteration is great in broadcasts.
They always like to do the one-two
punch, you know, safe and effective.
Chaos and confusion.
Now, if you want to know the source
of the chaos and confusion, I am so
happy that this man is back on the
no-agenda scene.
He's back on our radar.
He is an end-of-show mix in
the making.
I present to you the man who can
tell you exactly why we have chaos and
confusion, the one, the only, running for mayor,
Reverend Manning.
Elon Musk, the richest man in the world,
gave transgender Tribulation Trump $280 million to his
campaign.
That's what he gave on the top of
the table.
And now he owns Trump.
That's right.
He owns Trump.
Whatever he tells Trump to do, Trump jumps.
When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.
Trump, Trump, Trump.
When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.
Jump, Trump, jump, jump, jump.
What Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump, got the
jump.
Man, that guy is so good.
It's so good to have him back.
For some reason, he's always been a Trump
hater.
You know, he had hated him during the
first go-around, and he never was, we
never got anything from him during the Biden
era.
He hated Obama to an extreme.
Oh yeah, big time, yeah.
And then he hated Trump, but he never
really hated on Biden so much.
Yeah.
At least we never picked up on it.
I always found that peculiar.
Well, he's running for mayor in New York
City, which is great.
Well, it'd be definitely entertaining.
It is great.
And I guess Cuomo, the old Cuomo guy's
gonna run too.
Oh yeah, he looks like he's been on
the O, man.
He's been sucking down the- Mario?
Yeah, he looks like a bit of Ozympic
face and body.
He's deflated.
It's quite interesting.
Huh, I haven't seen him.
He's smaller than he used to be.
I have bad news, although it's in a
way- Can I guess the bad news?
You'll never guess.
They're not gonna bring out the Epstein stuff
that Pam Bondi promised yesterday on the Jesse
Watters show.
I saw, actually, I heard her promise that.
I was driving back from Dallas listening to
my Sirius XM receiver.
I heard her say, oh, Jesse, oh, it's
coming out.
We're gonna release it tomorrow.
Oh, it's so bad.
Oh, you won't, it's so bad.
We'll see.
It's supposed to be today.
I'm waiting.
No, I think she said Friday.
I thought she said Friday.
No, no, she said today.
She said tomorrow.
Okay.
And that was yesterday, so it's supposed to
be today.
But tomorrow never comes, John.
We all know.
And Friday is Zelensky Day.
He's on the plane.
I saw a video of him getting on
the, and right now, Keir Starmer is sitting
in the Oval Office, and he's sitting, doing
one of those press things where they all
yell at Trump about China and other things
and tariffs and blah, blah, blah.
You said Europe was built to screw us.
And Keir Starmer looks like he's gonna puke.
He's just, his eyes are all wide.
He looks frightened.
It's really something to behold.
There was, I was watching some of the
Fox coverage because I think it's probably better
news, generally speaking, but when they do news.
It's not as funny.
They talk about Starmer, and nobody seems to,
none of these, especially the analysts, nobody seems
to want to mention the fact that Starmer's
the guy, as the head of the Labor
Party, who sent a bunch of operatives over
to the United States to campaign for Kamala
Harris, and nobody wants to discuss the fact
that that could be souring the relationship between
the United States and the UK.
Well, why would they do that?
That's not funny.
We have to be hair on fire.
Okay, so I had four and a half
hours in the car, and I listened to
as much CNN as I could, as much
MSNBC as I could.
And, you know, Frau Ingraham was at Gitmo.
That was super boring to listen to.
But the spin-up is just out of
control.
And here's the bad news.
So like many Americans, we have liberals in
our families.
And one of our liberal family members is
so spun up and just, just completely, it's
not working.
Going all out of control about Trump's gonna
cut Medicare.
Trump's gonna cut Social Security.
It's gonna hurt everybody.
It's gonna hurt me.
I won't have any medical, you know, just,
and by the way, Trump can't do any
of that.
Only Congress can do it.
Not only that, but Trump specifically said that
he's not going to.
I know, but you know, this is what
the media, and so my question was, where
are you getting this from?
Well, I know that you're getting others, you
know, it's respectful, by the way.
This is the good news about our family
is, you know, everybody can give their opinion
and know, and everyone still loves each other.
That's quite spectacular, honestly.
So far.
Yeah, because we're hanging on by a thread.
And so where are you getting this from?
Well, I listen to big platforms like, what
do you think?
Well, it'd be the New York Times, MSNBC,
CNN, Deutsche Welle.
Big platforms, I don't know how much bigger
I can get.
Midas Touch.
Oh, really?
Yes.
And they think that's a big platform?
Well, if you look on YouTube, every episode
has over a million views and they do
15 a day.
And each episode is about 15, 16 minutes.
They are really flooding the zone and it's
working.
Well, that's the way you do it.
And you know, you get the news, like
they dethrone.
I mean, the whole psyop was perfect.
It's like, you know, tell everybody that they've
dethroned Joe Rogan and then they tune in.
And it's just the one of the brothers,
I think they do switch off and they
just sit there.
And I mean, every single title is clickbait,
Trump's losing it out of control.
No grasp, Elon's the president.
It goes on and on and on and
on.
And so when it comes to, so I
just pulled up two clips from this horrendous
podcast.
And so they're really riling people up and
they're doing a good job.
I have to say, cause they're complete insiders.
You know, they had a political action committee
for the Democrat party.
You know, one of them is a lawyer.
The other one is Colin Kaepernick's business partner.
These are not just some bros from Brooklyn.
They've been on the inside and it's better
than, what is that stupid show?
Pod Save America.
I think they've completely taken those, you know,
cause Pod Save America was all hate Republicans,
hate Trump, all stupid, but they were kind
of hoity-toity for like the, you know,
like the New York elite set, the Washington
elites, because they were also former Obama speech
writers and they got into kind of the
weeds of the political process.
These guys, they just come out and go
blah, blah, blah, blah.
And anything Trump does is dumb.
And so this is a clip I heard
last night on my way home.
This country has gotten bloated and fat and
disgusting and incompetently run.
Mirror, mirror on the wall.
That was Donald Trump apparently talking about himself
during his first cabinet meeting of his new
term.
Donald Trump was joined by his puppet master,
Elon Musk, who led much of the meeting,
which was completely bizarre, full of lies.
And at times Donald Trump didn't even seem
to acknowledge that he is actually the president.
Are you kind of starting to get what
they're doing here?
This is Rachel Maddow to an extreme without
the smug, dumb pauses of Rachel Maddow.
I have to say they're doing a good
job here.
My name is Brett Micellis with Midas Touch.
I'm going to walk you through the lowlights
and fact check it all.
But first, remember to hit subscribe to help
us get to 5 million subscribers.
The meeting began with a prayer where they
thanked God for President Trump, just completely bizarre
stuff.
Completely bizarre.
They're praying in the cabinet meeting is no
good.
Watch this.
Father, we thank you for this awesome privilege,
Father, to be in your presence.
God, thank you that you've allowed us to
see this day.
The Bible says that your mercies are new
every morning.
And Father God, we give you the glory
and the honor.
Thank you, God, for President Trump, Father, for
appointing us.
Father God, thank you for anointing us to
do this job.
Trump then didn't even seem to know that
he is president right now.
And he said that while egg prices are
a disaster and are really high now, they
were low with him.
These eggs are a disaster.
The Secretary of Agriculture is going to be
showing you a chart that's actually mind boggling
what's happened, how low they were with us
and how high they are now.
So all this questioning, lead-ins, like, well,
of course they were lower.
They didn't have bird flu when he was
president the first time.
But then everything is with this interesting slant
and it's working.
It's just working.
I have to say, they are spinning people
up and they're doing a better job than
any of those mainstream outlets you mentioned, particularly
because it's a nonstop barrage.
And so the bad news is now I'm
going to have to follow these jamokes.
Now I'm going to have to listen to
what they're doing.
Good, I'm glad you're going to do it
because I can't stand listening to them.
They're also riling up everybody about the backlash,
the Doge backlash.
So yeah, there's backlash by people who are
spun up.
It's, I'm pretty sure it's- By them.
Yes, well, listen to it.
You'll get the idea of how they're doing
this.
And then I'll, I don't have any more
of them today, but I'm going to have
to have at least one each show.
Let me just show you a longer clip
from that town hall.
And then I want to show you that
from Wisconsin to Georgia, to New York, to
the West Coast, people are rising up right
now.
And having their voices heard.
They're rising up.
Red states, blue states, purple states, all of
the colors.
People are angry.
People are pissed.
People demand action.
Watch this right here from that town hall.
Let's play it.
They didn't like some of Scott Fitzgerald's answers.
The end result of the fraud and abuse
that has been discovered already.
Michael Wittig is concerned with Elon Musk's role
in the Trump administration.
He held up a sign that red presidents
are not kings.
Are you going to subpoena him?
You can guess that this guy was not
a Republican rising up with a sign like
that.
Well, no, actually there was, somebody researched this
out and discovered it was a left-wing
organization, an activist.
There wasn't a Republican in the place.
That's the point.
And they were making a fuss as if
they were Republicans.
And you're telling me that Midas Touch with
all their quote unquote fact-checking that they
claim didn't bring this up?
I'm not going to claim it.
I'm going to say that's exactly what happened.
And I'm saying it with evidence.
Are not kings.
Are you going to subpoena him at some
point?
After you're done with the budget or whatever.
Are you willing to use your subpoena power
to say Trump, or sorry, Musk, come in
here, stand in front of Congress and answer
some hard questions.
Congressman Fitzgerald insists Musk's efforts to find waste
and fraud are working and Congress will eventually
have budget oversight.
So now I want to share with you
what was going down in New York.
Going down.
And Representative Paul Tonko.
Going down.
Congressional District Democrat, Paul Tonko, here at this
town hall, a huge ovation.
Interesting how he uses a Trump huge instead
of huge.
That just caught that for some reason.
Here at this town hall, a huge ovation.
I think that's intentional.
As a teacher.
Well, yeah, that's also, Bernie also says that.
Encourages Congressmember Paul Tonko, who is pushing back
to do more, to work harder, even if
that means getting arrested for civil disobedience.
You're in public service right now.
You cannot sit idly by as Elon Musk
and these billionaires take away all of people's
rights and freedoms.
Watch the energy in this room in New
York.
Play this clip.
Yeah, so we're not going to play this
clip.
But they are, they're really, it's working.
So they're basically gaslighting.
Oh, totally gaslighting.
And they're doing a good job of it,
is what you're claiming.
Yes, yes.
And you have proof of that by virtue
of the fact that you have relatives in
your own family circle that have been gaslit
by these guys and they're all spun up.
So I'll just read you some titles.
Just to summarize on your behalf.
Trump morning disaster.
Major SCOTUS order.
Release the files.
Whoa, Canada.
And mic drop.
He's freaking out.
Fatal move, Donald.
Stay the hell out, Donald.
Total loser move.
Show me the evidence.
Whoa, it's happening.
These are the titles.
And they've already released one, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight.
They've already released eight so far today.
And we're not even at 130.
And each one has up to, well, it
takes about six hours and they get up
to about a million views.
Not all of them, but the majority of
them.
So they're doing, and that's just YouTube.
So they're doing it right.
And it's working.
And they should get a medal.
From- Oh, they'll get a medal, all
right.
Oh yeah.
Some precious medal is what they're getting.
So yeah.
And they have ads and they're probably making
movie.
Not movie, making money.
I say making movies because Gene Hackman died.
Well, he did.
Oh yeah, well, did you not hear this?
This is- No, I- Oh, this
is an interesting story.
This morning, authorities investigating the death of a
Hollywood legend.
Gene Hackman found dead Wednesday alongside his wife,
classical pianist, Betsy Arakawa, in their home in
Santa Fe.
Police say the couple who married in 1991
were found with their dog after a neighbor
called police to do a welfare check.
So he, his wife, and the dog were
all dead.
And there's no suspected foul play.
And we don't have an answer.
Yeah, I'm thinking carbon monoxide.
Absolutely.
That's what I'm thinking.
He's 95.
You don't need a lot of- But
she was only 65, I think.
She wasn't all that old.
And the dog, you know, the dog being
dead, and there's no mention of guns, and
explosions, and poison pills anywhere.
If the dog is also dead, then I'm
thinking carbon monoxide.
But it's just in time to promote the
Oscars.
That's the good news.
Never, never, never, never put any- Yeah,
never miss out on that.
Well, it's like the other person that divorces
is Trachtenberg actress.
Who was that?
Trachtenberg?
She was on Buffy, and a bunch of
other, Gossip Girl, and whatever.
And she was 39.
And of course, the first thing they dug
up was tweets of her condemning people for
not getting vaxxed.
Oh, goodness.
Well, I might as well play one Oscar
clip just to get it out of the
way, because it's this coming Sunday.
And they're doing everything they can.
Let's promote it, and let's keep dying on
those hills, everybody.
Activist and writer April Rain is reflecting on
the viral moment that turned into a movement.
It all started when she was watching the
Oscar nominations in 2015.
It struck me that category after category, there
were no people of color nominated for any
of the acting slots.
There you go.
I mean, zero for 20.
Rain's viral call for change produced real results
at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and
Sciences.
Since hashtag OscarsSoWhite, the Academy made an effort
to diversify its pool of members who get
to vote on who should win the Academy
Awards.
So that people who don't look like me
or don't look like you aren't making decisions
for me without getting my input.
That change is noticeable.
Last year, 20% of the Academy nominees
were from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
That's compared to just 9% in 2015.
Rain says while the Academy has improved its
on-screen diversity, there's more work to be
done behind the camera.
I see more people, actors and producers, directors,
creating their own production companies.
No longer waiting for their seat at the
table, but creating their own mansion and putting
their table and chair in it.
And Rain had this advice for those feeling
discriminated and marginalized.
Do not let anyone tell you that you
don't belong in the room.
Go and claim your space.
Okay, so I guess, claim your space.
Podcasts are so white.
Yeah, yeah, right.
They are.
Well, that's not true because we're gonna see
a lot more podcasters of color, also known
as POCs.
POCs, POCs, yes.
We also have Gavin Newsom, who's decided instead
of governing the state of California, he's gonna
podcast.
Yeah, I haven't listened yet.
That's gonna be a winner.
Yeah, no, the POCs are going to be
Joy Reid's podcast, Lester Holt's podcast.
They're all gonna be POCs, POCcasters.
There you go, POCcasters.
POCcasters.
I'm gonna have to write that one down
just in case.
Yeah, yeah.
And remember, remember that it is a podcaster
who is now assistant director of the FBI.
I mean, this is an outrage.
Bongino.
Code Bongino.
Yes.
I wonder what his code name will be,
Bongino.
I think I have a clip, hold on
a second.
Where is that?
Is it under, I'm over, oh, here we
go, yes.
Over to Pooper.
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality.
MAGA Media personality.
MAGA Media.
Hey, everybody, MAGA Media here.
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality.
I like MAGA Media as a show title,
by the way.
MAGA Media, okay.
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality has been
tapped for a top role in the Trump
administration.
This time it is podcaster, next Secret Service
agent, Dan Bongino.
Podcaster.
The first thing you get, podcasting's come a
long way, John.
I want credit.
He's got a good background.
When they say podcaster, they should say created
by Adam Curry.
And this time it is podcaster, next Secret
Service agent, Dan Bongino.
Yeah, exactly, like Brunetti.
I bet Brunetti's balls you'd be pushing this.
I'd sue him, I'd sue him, I tell
you.
Administration.
This time it is podcaster, next Secret Service
agent, Dan Bongino.
The president announced in a social media post
late last night that, quote, great news for
law enforcement and American justice.
Dan Bongino, a man of incredible love and
passion for our country, has just been named
the next deputy director of the FBI by
the man who will be the best ever
director, Kash Patel.
Now, we should point out, the deputy director
oversees the day-to-day operations of the
bureau, and typically the role is held by
career federal agents, which Bongino isn't.
A decade or so ago, Mr. Bongino appeared
on this program a number of times, giving
thoughtful and serious commentary on law enforcement matters.
This was him in 2014.
Okay, thoughtful.
Police departments in general, Anderson, there is a
crisis in policing, and it's a crisis in
training, despite what some of the other guests
have said.
I was there, I went through the police
academy three times, twice with the NYPD and
once with the Secret Service.
There is a crisis in training.
It is not taking- Does that mean
that he didn't pass, that he had to
go through it three times?
I thought the same exact thing.
If you had to go, hmm, he didn't
make it?
It's interesting.
I went through the police academy three times,
twice with the NYPD and once with the
Secret Service.
There is a crisis in training.
It is not taken seriously in America.
Well, he was last on this program in
March of 2016, and the year since, he's
grown into an outspoken member of the right
-wing media sphere.
Right-wing media sphere?
Bring back MAGA Media.
The president, he often appeared on Fox, attacking
the Mueller investigation during the first Trump administration,
and adopted the philosophy that he described as
being centered around, quote, owning the libs.
Own the libs at every opportunity, online, at
the election booth, in your activism.
Don't let them up.
Own the libs.
I have one more clip from this pooper
escapade.
Mr. Bongino gained a lot of traction during
COVID.
This vaccine never had anything to do with
science at all.
Never had anything to do with COVID either.
Man, it's the COVID vaccine.
It did not prevent the spread of COVID.
If masks work, why aren't they working?
Because the left doesn't care if they work.
President Trump has certainly approved of his questioning
the legitimacy of the 2020 election.
Donald Trump was calling out basically a flawed
election for what it was.
A flawed election.
As the chief executive of the United States,
it's his job to question an election if
he believes there was corruption.
That's his actual job, to go and enforce
the laws, the president and chief executive.
But when the FBI searched the president's home
in Mar-a-Lago for classified documents in
2022, Bongino went on Fox to condemn the
very agency he is now being tasked to
help run.
This is such an interesting statement.
Folks, the FBI is lost.
It's broken, irredeemably corrupt at this point.
The inexcusable raid on President Trump's home was
a straw that broke the camel's back.
Fire anyone involved in the raid.
I don't want to hear any more rank
-and-file stuff.
I was a rank-and-file.
I saw stuff I didn't like.
I left.
It's not hard.
You swore an oath to the Constitution.
That matters.
If you played any role in this raid,
you should be gone.
That seems like a good thing, that you
want the guy who sees the corruption to
be in there, but Anderson Cooper makes it
sound like, oh, he called them out.
I can't believe he's going to lead them
now.
Everything's so bizarre.
Well, I'm going to go back to the
Oscars thing and this black theory.
Okay.
Because the Met Gala's the other thing happening.
Did I miss it?
Did it happen already?
No, no, it's coming.
Oh, oh, yay, I can still see it.
When is it?
What channel?
Well, I don't know what channel it's going
to be on, but the Met Gala's a
little more ridiculous than the Oscars.
And I have a report from PBS and
it brings out this new, they're going to
emphasize POC on the Met Gala by promoting
what's called, well, play clip one of this
series here.
This spring, the annual Met Gala.
Did you say cut one?
Did you say play cut one?
I said clip one, I think.
I thought you said cut one, like I'm
a producer.
I don't have a cut.
That's, I was confused.
Clip one.
Play the first clip.
Yes, thank you.
This spring, the annual Met Gala in New
York City, one of the bigger fashion events
of the year will highlight the indelible style
of black men.
The Met's 2025 exhibition titled, Superfine, Tailoring Black
Style opens in May and explores the emergence
and significance of the black dandy.
We looked into the rich and complicated historical
style and its relevance today.
It's part of our ongoing series, Race Matters.
The black dandy?
So, this is more, a little more extreme
than the Oscars.
This is great.
The black dandy.
So the black dandy, and there, I think
it's the second clip here that has the,
or the second cut that has the little
gem in here.
Let's play.
This is quite fascinating to me because, it's
just because what are you guys up to
now?
Now, as you may have noticed, I always
have not one, but two wardrobe setups in
this office.
Growing up in New York City, Dandy Wellington
says he started paying special attention to his
appearance at an early age.
His style inspired by the Harlem Renaissance.
And the name fits his persona.
He's a dandy.
Clothes tailored, hats pristine, and attitude refined.
It's a worldwide community.
So, I'll be inspired by people who are
in Paris, who are in LA, you know,
people who are in the Congo.
There is such a connection to style and
also a connection to culture.
You know, the history of black dandyism and
black sartorial style is complicated.
It's wrapped up in migration and civil rights.
Dandyism was first introduced to black culture during
the transatlantic slave trade.
Well-dressed enslaved men were seen as fixtures
of wealth for their enslavers.
But tailored attire and wit also offered a
path for black men to imagine possibility and
power.
From 18th century England to today, it's a
way of being that has evolved with the
times.
The black dandy is a complicated figure throughout
history.
We spoke recently with Washington Post senior critic
at large, Robin Givhan, who has long covered
the fashion industry.
There was, you know, this sort of early
idea of enslaved black men who were often
sort of dressed in fine clothing in order
to reflect the status of the enslaver.
And you also have black dandies who sort
of played with the idea of gender and
really sort of tapped into sort of feminine
tropes, taking ownership of their body and their
presence, but, you know, embellishing it in a
way that signifies its value and its strength.
I need to talk to Mo about it.
I looked at the Urban Dictionary, black dandy,
man who takes great care with his clothing,
general appearance, but number two is flamboyant or
effeminate male, regardless of sexual orientation.
I can see where this is a problem,
but this is the theme for this year
at the Met Gala?
Yes, this is the theme for the Met
Gala.
And this is nothing new.
I mean, I think sometimes it referred to
as styling.
Well, Madonna had black dandies in her dancers
all throughout the 80s and most of the
90s.
There you go.
And then you have, if you watch an
NBA game, they always like to throw the
camera into the, you know, the walk into
the locker room shot, which has become a
pretty standard fare, I'd say, over the last
decade.
And it's always, out of the whole team,
there's about two black guys on any team
that dress like, you know, I would say
flamboyantly gay.
And- Are you saying my favorite sports
ball game is gay?
Your sports ball game?
It seems so.
And so anyway, onward with cut three.
You can't keep doing this.
Tell me more about that.
The idea that the black dandy aesthetic is
in some way a form of resistance in
that it challenges stereotypes about black identity and
black masculinity.
For a lot of dandies, part of their
way of dressing is quite emotive and sexual.
And that breaks definitely some of the cultural
expectations of black men.
But at the same time, during the civil
rights movement, the way that activists dressed was
to reflect the degree of sort of respect
that they not only had for themselves, but
also the respect that they were demanding from
society at large.
For some leaders in the fight for civil
rights, how they dressed was a critical part
of achieving their agenda.
Frederick Douglass was the most photographed man amongst
his contemporaries in the 19th century.
And he dressed up.
Anytime you saw Frederick Douglass, he was dressed
up.
Curator Chantrelle P.
Lewis is the author of Dandelion, The Black
Dandy and Street Style.
In the 20th century, W.E.B. Du
Bois was very fixated on fighting racism, fighting
oppression through aesthetics.
In a time post-Rayvon Martin, post many
different incidents of police violence in the U
.S., there was like a large mass movement
of young black people in urban areas, whether
in the U.S. and the U.K.
and South Africa that began really dressing up
for themselves and for their own sense of
cultural pride and dignity.
It's interesting they bring in Frederick Douglass.
You would definitely call him a Republican and
a biblical scholar and W.E.B. Du
Bois.
Phoebe, it's okay.
It's just The Black Dandy.
W.E.B. Du Bois is a communist,
but okay.
No, but Frederick Douglass was a Phoebe Republican.
I might have to add Phoebe's a white
dog and she just can't handle all the
black talk.
She's very racist.
Some dogs are.
So I used to have a dog that
was literally racist.
You did?
Yeah.
I believe you.
You don't even have to explain, I believe
you.
Like Elon's kid.
Hey, shh, it's okay.
It's just The Black Dandy.
Anyway, okay.
So yeah, I know lots of black men
who like to dress up, but they dress
up in their Timberlands and very well-ironed
shirts.
Even if it's a sports team, yeah, they
look impeccable.
When I went to- They look good.
They're looking good.
When I went to school for my three
months at my alma mater, Salem College, my
roommate Ty from Trenton, New Jersey, he showed
me how to wash my clothes.
He says, what are you doing?
I said, I'm washing my clothes.
No, no, no, son.
And he got me my own Tide.
You want this.
Got me my own Tide, showed me how
to iron.
So yeah, I don't understand.
Why is this now the theme for the
Met Gala?
Doesn't everybody dress up nice for the Gala?
Yes, they do.
Now, I was going to, we got one
more clip left, and I'm not gonna use,
I have to mention something, though, just because
I did the cut thing and you told
me to stop.
Jesse Waters, on his show, I think two
or three shows ago, opened the show by
calling the show, it's Jesse Waters Prime Time,
and he stupidly called it Jesse Waters World,
which is his old show.
Oh, yeah, Waters World.
And so Kevin McCarthy was one of the
guests, and he kept giving Waters grief throughout
the interview.
He says, well, I'm glad to be on
Waters World.
Wow.
And then he gave him grief at the
end, saying, well, it was good, because I
haven't been on Waters World for a while.
And I'm thinking, what kind of relationship do
these two have?
You know?
McCarthy's on Waters Show all the time.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's very interesting.
I don't know.
All I heard was Waters saying to Pam
Bondi, did I congratulate you yet?
I don't know if I congratulated you.
And she says, not personally, but you texted
me.
That's a little too close for comfort.
Yeah, it's insidious, is the word you're looking
for.
Thank you.
A little too close for comfort.
Call it insidiousness if you must.
All right, we'll continue.
Throughout history, black style movements have been closely
linked to individual identity.
And with a style that's moved across the
globe, every dandy is unique, each with a
swagger of his own.
Swagger.
You could have someone like me, who's very
much connected to the jazz age and the
swing era, vintage as the inspiration.
But then of course, there's also black dandies
that wear Ankara prints and black dandies that
use street wear as their, you know, node
of expression.
There is a generation of black men, as
you well know, who take such pride in
dressing to the nines, a perfectly coordinated suit
with gleaming alligator shoes.
They would probably describe themselves as having swagger.
They probably wouldn't describe themselves as being a
dandy.
How do you draw that line between sort
of exuding old school cool and being a
black dandy?
Oh, brother.
I grew up in Detroit and I think
about some of the men who firmly believe
that if your shoes were not matching your
suit, then you were just sort of not
properly dressed.
And for some black men, just being seen
in sort of full technicolor is an incredible
victory.
Well, I can't wait to see RuPaul at
the Met Gala.
I don't even know, what are they doing?
Maybe it'll become clear when we see it.
This whole thing, this is ridiculous.
And the thing is about this entire report,
they never once mentioned, they talk about it
as though it's some sort of a thing.
They never once mentioned the cost of admission.
I don't think you can even buy a
ticket.
You have to be invited, don't you?
You have to be invited to buy a
ticket.
Yeah, invited to buy a ticket, right.
Well, I'm asking you, what does it cost
to get a ticket?
Do you know the answer?
I'm just gonna guess.
I do know the answer.
I wouldn't be pulling the stunt if I
wasn't.
$5,000.
$75,000.
Hello?
Well, any black dandy has that under his
top hat.
Although there's a deal.
There is a deal.
I bet there is.
If you buy a table of 10, for
10, it's 350,000, so it's only 35
ahead.
Hey, we could do a meetup.
It's great.
I can't wait.
It's our whole yearly budget.
So this is an elitist crock of crap.
And they roll out the black dandies as
some sort of dance monkey dance moment.
That's what this is all about.
The Met Gala is one of the worst,
most- Racist.
It's racist.
It is a disgusting product, and it's for
elites that can afford $75,000 to show
up and say, hello, give me a break.
Yeah, to be on camera and get your
picture in vogue.
That's what it's about, yeah.
Yeah, that used to run it.
You know, PBS and NPR, both of them,
I have another report later, they do not
tell you the numbers.
They never give you the numbers.
I've never seen it.
I had to go research it to find
it.
It's up from $50,000, by the way.
Wow, back in the day, the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame dinner at the Waldorf
was $1,000 a person.
Those days are over.
Seems like, yeah.
And there were no cameras.
It was a much better deal.
Okay, I have to go into this topic
because I have a little bit of deconstruction
to do because there's all kinds of information
that's all over the map, and obviously it's
being played up to an extreme because of
RFK Jr. becoming the Health and Human Services
Administrator.
Is that it?
Can I interrupt?
Yeah.
So he's sitting there at the, RFK Jr.
is behind Trump in some event, and then
he was sitting at the table with the
table read that was called the Board of
Directors meeting.
What was that called?
Did they have the- Cabinet meeting?
Cabinet meeting.
Or Board of Directors.
Might as well be Board of Directors meeting.
Table read is what I still think it's
called.
Table read, that's good.
So Kennedy's there, and he just never smiles,
and he looks uncomfortable.
He does not like being a Democrat in
a room full of Republicans.
I don't care what he likes to think
and he's gonna do whatever ass kicking he
does if he does any.
The whole thing is like, this is a
genetically a problem for him.
You can just see it.
Well, that's the Kennedy mantra.
I don't think JFK was the last one.
Like, we gotta get rid of that guy.
He's smiling too much.
He seemed like he smiled.
JFK had a nice smile.
No, he had a great smile.
Charming smile, yeah.
Well, since you bring up RFK Jr., my
first clip will be about RFK Jr. Guy
who really actually- Sam, hold on one
sec, because RFK is talking about measles.
We just had the first measles death in
this country in a decade.
Let's listen.
Breaking news, breaking news!
First measles death!
Wait, hold on a second.
I gotta stop again, because I have a
measles clip too.
The first death in a decade, they said
it's actually something like that?
Yes.
I thought, we've been doing this show for
over a decade, obviously, and I kept getting
the impression that there's, you know, because of
this lack of vaccinations, that measles deaths were
increasing and they were happening all over the
place, and now somebody in Texas dies, supposedly,
of measles, and this is the first one
in a decade, and all hell's gonna break
loose?
Have I been misled?
I'm kind of upset, because you're stealing my
thunder, and I was gonna get into a
vibe here.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I was gonna get into a vibe, so
just hold that.
You know, this has happened more than once.
I say every five shows, I do this
to you.
It's okay.
And I think it's the structure.
The structure of the show, or the structure
of you?
No, the structure of the way you set
up your gags.
Yeah, well, so I set up a gag,
and you're like, he's gonna do a gag,
let me out-gag him.
No, you set up the gag in a
way that it invites me to do this.
I'm sorry.
Okay, then I- It's your fault.
You're out-gagging me.
This is no good.
It's my fault.
I'm sorry.
I repent.
The guy who really actually- Sam, hold
on one sec, because RFK is talking about
measles.
We just had the first measles death in
this country in a decade.
Let's listen.
Watching it, and there are about 20 people
hospitalized, mainly for quarantine.
We're watching it.
We put out a post on it yesterday,
and we're gonna continue to follow it.
Incidentally, there have been four measles outbreaks this
year.
It's a little worse, that clip, than I
thought.
But anyway, the point was, Katie Tuerr interrupts
her guests, because we have a measles death.
RFK's talking about the measles death.
Let's go to NPR.
Health officials in Texas say more than 20
people are hospitalized amid an outbreak of measles.
Hold on a second.
First, let me just give you the definition
of outbreak.
The definition of outbreak is a violent increase
in activity or currency.
That is the first definition as Merriam-Webster.
We're talking 93 people.
This is an outbreak.
Child dead, Dr. Wait, let's get the dead
child in there.
Hold on.
That has left one child dead.
Dr. Lara Johnson, the chief medical officer at
Covenant Health in Lubbock says the risk is
low for people who have been vaccinated.
For those of us who are fully vaccinated
against measles, the risk, a lot of people
are worried about what's your risk in the
community?
Your risk is extremely, extremely low of having
any issues at all with measles.
The risk with measles is really for those
who are not immune, who have not been
vaccinated.
The CDC says 124 confirmed cases of the
measles, mostly among teens and children, have been
confirmed in the U.S. so far this
year.
This is- So if you're vaccinated, your
risk is very, very low.
Whereas my understanding of vaccines has changed a
little over the years is that you receive
the vaccine.
It has a dead virus in there.
Your immune system responds to it in a
less violent manner than getting the actual measles
virus.
And so the next time it comes around,
your immune system will recognize it and will
repel it and you're not going to get
sick.
But now they're saying your risk is low.
What is the risk?
Let's go to France 24.
For the first time in a decade, a
person has died from the measles virus in
the U.S. There are a dozen more
in hospital with several in intensive care in
the outbreak spanning Texas and New Mexico.
Outbreak.
And as you can see from today's news,
this virus can have severe and deadly consequences.
The patient was an unvaccinated school-aged child.
Over 120 cases of the highly contagious respiratory
infection- Have been identified in Texas since
late January.
In the U.S., vaccine hesitancy is on
the rise.
The Centers for Disease Control said during the
2023 to 2024 school year, exemptions from one
or more vaccines among kindergartners in the U
.S. increased to 3.3%. In Gaines County,
Texas, the epicenter of the current outbreak, the
vaccine exemption rate was nearly 18%, according to
health department data.
If you're unvaccinated, if you're around someone who
has the illness, you have a 90%
chance of becoming ill from the virus.
When we say the vaccine is 93%
effective- 93% effective.
Hold on a second.
So out of 100 people, seven will get
it anyway.
So what is this vaccine?
It's 93.
We've heard this before.
93% effective.
That means, I suppose, if we took 100
vaccinated people and put them in a room
with someone with measles, almost all of those
vaccinated people, 93%, would not contract the illness
at all.
Health officials remain concerned- Wait.
Do they, at that point, would they explain
why seven people who were vaccinated, seven people
out of 100, which is 7%, which is
a high number, if it was a death
rate of 7%, that wouldn't be good.
And so you have seven people that catch
it and they were vaccinated.
Is there an explanation as to why the
vaccinated person would have caught the disease when
they were vaccinated?
Did they explain that in that report?
Why are you making trouble?
I'm sorry.
You're asking questions that shall not be questioned.
93% would not contract the illness at
all.
Health officials remain concerned as more cases spring
up in New Mexico as well.
The new US Secretary of Health, Robert Kennedy
Jr., who himself has expressed anti-vax views
in the past- Anti-vax views!
Said such outbreaks are not unusual, but promised
his department would continue to monitor the situation.
Okay, so we're getting closer now to some
information.
Now, the whole point of what we're supposed
to understand, and the meme is, first death
from measles in 10 years.
Our chief medical correspondent, Dr. John LePouf, joins
us now.
And to be clear here, John, measles are
seriously contagious.
Seriously, yes.
They've been seriously contagious since I was six
years old.
Yes, you get the measles.
So infectious, much more than flu or COVID.
And on top of that, there's a double
whammy, which is- Double whammy!
There's a relatively long incubation period of 10
to 14 days, during which somebody can travel
all over the place, even up to four
days before getting a rash, and infect other
people.
On top of that, if an infected person
leaves a room, the virus can be floating
in the air for two hours and infect
some unsuspecting, vulnerable person who then walks in.
So given all that, John, remind us again
of how effective the vaccine has been.
Extraordinarily effective, 96- Listen, he has different
numbers.
Remember, it was 93 just a minute ago.
This is another question.
Why doesn't one of these reporters should say,
well, you know, that's funny you say this,
whatever the number's gonna be, because I've heard
this number and that number and this number
and that.
What number is it?
Can't you guys agree on a number?
No, because we're no longer members of the
World Health Organization.
We don't have the data.
You see, Trump pulled this out.
We don't have the data.
Effective the vaccine has been- Extraordinarily effective,
97% effective- At preventing infection-
What?
That last one said 97.
No, it said 93.
Oh, 93, right, with 7% getting sick.
Now it's 93.
After two doses, and take a look at
this graph.
97, yes.
The measles vaccine was introduced around- I'm
confused, 93, 97, it's not 100%.
1963, that's when it was licensed.
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to
500- Wait, wait, wait.
He said reported deaths, and then he said
reported cases.
Did everyone die?
No, he corrected himself.
Oh, that was a correction?
Because it sounded to me like he didn't
correct himself.
But let's do- He said- Yes.
It sounded like he said reported deaths, reported
cases.
Yes, he corrected himself.
Did he say, I'm sorry, it's not reported
- Yes, yes, yes, but you- Play
it again.
Interrupted the clip.
Vaccine was introduced around 1963, that's when it
was licensed.
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to
500 deaths.
Now look at- He corrected himself.
He changed- If you listen to the
actual flaw of what he said- Oh
gosh, John, who cares?
You know what he's, yes, he made a
mistake.
Here's the reason I'm making a point of
this, because this just slips into the mentality
of the listener, this neurolinguistic programming.
Yes.
He said 500,000 deaths.
Yes.
And then he said 500,000 cases.
Yes.
He didn't go, 500,000 deaths, I'm sorry,
I don't mean 500,000 deaths, I mean
500,000 cases.
I was mistaken.
He didn't say any of that.
No.
So he slipped into the public consciousness, 500
,000 deaths.
I don't think it was intentional.
Okay.
I don't think it was intentional.
It's not, it's kind of not the point.
The point is that it was a very
low percentage of people dying.
If you have 500,000 and 500 die,
that's like, oh, 0.1%?
I think it's, yeah, it could be.
The measles vaccine was introduced around 1963.
That's when it was licensed.
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to
500 deaths.
Now look at that precipitous drop off.
You don't see something like that.
And so that's remarkable.
Now I do understand, there are people who
say, and they've said to me, look, I
want to get the vaccine, and I don't
want to give it to my family.
I'm willing to die for them.
That's the job.
For me.
But actually, when you say that, when you're
considering whether to get the vaccine, think about
the fact that there are 17 million immunocompromised
adults and two million immunocompromised children who are
relying on you being immunized and getting that
herd immunity to not get infected themselves.
Okay, so here he's giving it away.
The child who died, who we know nothing
about, probably was immunocompromised.
And you can die from the flu.
You can die from certainly any respiratory disease.
And there's a lot of factors that brought
down measles.
I'm not so sure it was just the
vaccine.
It's irrelevant.
It's an outbreak.
Lester, tonight the FDA took the unusual step
of reminding people that the measles vaccine is
safe.
And it's got 50 years of science behind
it.
But the FDA is very concerned that the
measles have once again emerged as a public
health threat.
Yeah, it's scary.
It's not getting any better.
Yes.
Scary!
And that was 2019, by the way, when
we had over 600 cases of outbreak of
measles.
This is 124.
And then there's this clip.
Officials in Washington State confirming one woman died
during an outbreak of measles earlier this year.
It's the 11th case of measles in Washington
State this year, but the first measles death
in the U.S. since 2003.
It's doubly tragic in that this was a
preventable death.
That is 2016.
So it's an outright lie that no one
has died from measles in the last 10
years.
Because this is just, I just went on
YouTube and just pulled up a clip.
It's a lie.
Surprise.
It's a lie.
Everything's, this entire thing is a lie.
So then.
But they can't get, what bothers me, here's
the problem I have.
At least with the safe and effective, and
that phrase we had earlier, chaos and confusion,
there was some coordination.
There's the lack of coordination with the percentage
of how effective it is and how many
people died and who died and when they
died and outbreak and all the rest of
it.
The lack of coordination on the part of
the propaganders, propagandizers, is kind of distressing because
it's as though they don't even need to
do that.
They're just going to frighten the public.
I think I can explain.
The reason why is it used to be
coordinated from the CDC direct to the newsrooms.
Now it's coordinated by the marketing department of
Big Pharma.
They're just saying, do more reports on measles
and not really giving them the coordinated message.
They're just buying airtime.
You know, because they want to promote vaccines.
Exactly.
There is nothing more tragic than the death
of a child, especially so if the death
was preventable.
Preventable, we don't know that.
With the death of a child in Texas
from measles, the first measles death in this
country in nearly 10 years.
Measles deaths, even measles cases are rare because
the disease is preventable with a vaccine that
has been available for more than 60 years.
There is an outbreak of measles in Texas
among people who were not vaccinated.
That includes the child who died in Lubbock.
So I'm looking at the CDC chart, rate
of measles cases and deaths in the United
States, 1919 to 2024.
So in 1919, reported measles cases 175.
I'll go to 1937, reported measles 647.
Now the death rate was a little bit
higher.
It was 2.5, but in, so this
measles vaccine has been available since 1963.
They still had 110 in 1990.
There was actually a spike in 2019.
That's where that Lester Holt report came from,
but the measles death rate is still 0
.1. 0.1%, what it's always been.
And so there was an uptick in 2024.
It hasn't gone to zero, and nor have
the deaths gone to zero according to the
CDC data for whatever truth that is.
So this is just a total hoax story.
And to make it even funnier, the CBS
guy sits down with this expert outside a
two picnic tables, 20 feet apart wearing a
mask.
We're now seeing a very serious consequence of
what happens when we have measles in our
community.
Hold on, here we go.
The first measles death in the US in
nearly a decade happened here at Covenant Children's
Hospital in Lubbock, Texas.
The child was school aged and did not
reside in Lubbock County.
There are now more than 120 measles cases
in Texas.
About 20 children have been hospitalized, some in
the ICU, none were vaccinated.
Now health officials are racing to stop the
spread.
We've talked to parents of little ones under
one year old who can't get the measles
vaccine.
What do you tell those worried parents who
feel their kids are susceptible and they don't
even wanna take them out?
It's important to communicate with your physician for
infants, especially six to 12 months.
So that population is a little bit different
only because we can, in certain contexts, give
the measles vaccine early.
Before the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1963,
400 to 500 people died every year.
The virus is extremely contagious for those who
don't have immunity.
I'm sorry that wasn't the mask clip, but
here you hear the messaging, which is, hey,
we can give it to your six month
old.
Come on, people, there's an outbreak.
On Saturday morning, she woke up with a
rash.
This is the mask clip.
Bow, bow, bow.
Knowing the measles outbreak was near her home
in Odessa and that her daughter was too
young to be vaccinated, Kaitlin Norris took eight
-month-old Poppy to the ER when she
developed a fever and rash.
She also had the coughing, the runny nose,
and the rash.
So she had a very good amount of
all of the symptoms.
You're so sicky and you don't even know
it.
Despite her symptoms.
Excellent, excellent nap pop, CBS.
You know you're sick and you don't even,
it's beautiful.
You're so sicky and you don't even know
it.
Awesome.
Despite her symptoms, Poppy's test results came back
negative for measles this morning, but her mother
isn't letting her guard down yet.
She said the kid didn't have measles.
She was spun up and frightened by you
morons.
When you start hearing about this in your
backyard, what's going through your mind?
It's terrifying.
I've heard a lot of things about how
children have seizures because of the high temperatures
of their fevers and brain damage and they
die and it's terrifying.
It's terrifying.
Oh my gosh.
Just remember everybody, no agenda is your actual
vaccine against this nonsense.
Because in 1963, they came out with the
vaccine and in 1980, we were laughing at
the Brady Bunch.
You all got it, including Alice.
And they went, ooh, I don't want a
shot.
I don't want a shot.
Dude, who wants a shot?
We get ice cream and comic books.
I just want to play, I have one
clip on this.
This is from NPR or PBS, one of
the two, but this is the Texas measles
clip.
And the reason I want to play this
is because the clip you just played, not
the one just before the one you just
played, which they said all, the guy says,
all of the people have gotten measles, all,
the guy says, all of them were unvaccinated.
Yeah, do we know that for sure?
We don't know anything, but play this version.
Other headlines in Texas, where officials announced the
first death from a recent measles outbreak.
They say the victim was an unvaccinated school
age child who was hospitalized in West Texas
last week.
There are at least 124 confirmed cases of
the highly contagious respiratory illness across nine Texas
counties.
They've been mostly reported among children, many of
them unvaccinated.
Many of them, many of them, there you
go.
Yeah, well, it's going to be at least
7%, maybe three.
We don't know.
I know it's a little disturbing.
Because we don't know anything.
So I'll just add on top of this,
because we have to have more, more fear.
And this is, this is the opposite of
the Noah Jenner show.
This is a public service to freak you
out, to freak out family members of mine
when they hear stuff like this.
Bird flu continues to cause concern, not just
because it's leading to skyrocketing egg prices.
Scientists are watching the virus closely and some
believe it could become the next major human
pandemic.
So they keep doing this and they're going
to bring in a perfect guy now.
I spoke to biologist David Merriam at MSU
Denver, who doesn't necessarily agree, but he says
it will become a bigger concern if and
when we start to see human to human
spread.
So he, so she says he doesn't necessarily
agree, but don't listen to what I just
said.
It said there, he's really concerned.
He's concerned.
He's worried there's concern.
Gee, it could, it could mutate.
Anything could happen.
So far, we really haven't seen confirmed cases
of that.
But Merriam says H5N1 can trade genetic material
with the H1N1 virus in the body, which
would make it a lot more transmissible.
So somebody who gets, you'd like H1N1, which
is your standard flu that's coming around right
now.
Somebody gets that and then they're also a
dairy worker or a chicken worker working with
H5N1.
It's a chicken, it's like a sex worker
for animals, a chicken worker.
You'd like H1N1, which is your standard flu
that's coming around right now.
Somebody gets that and then they're also a
dairy worker or a chicken worker working with
H5N1.
And now you have both of them in
the same person.
And that's where you start seeing a selective
pressure.
And that selective pressure is the sort of
thing that could lead to it being more
transmissible.
Oh, please, Doug.
People.
Yeah, that's why he says it's really important
for people to get vaccinated against H1N1.
Again, we're talking your standard flu shot.
There is a bird flu vaccine for humans.
In fact, Canada announced last week it's purchased
500,000 doses of the H5N1 vaccine with
the intention of vaccinating high-risk populations like
those who work closely with birds or cattle.
They're testing the bird flu vaccine on Canadians.
Don't take it to Canada.
That's what she said.
Canada bought 500,000 vaccines of the human
bird flu vaccine.
Don't take it, Canada.
And so there's multiple angles to this.
So besides the big pharma, of course, which
is the ultimate goal, there's an anti-Trump
thing.
Egg prices are rising.
Trump said they will go down.
Egg prices are rising.
And there's this very reminiscent of COVID of
shutting down parks.
H5N1, avian influenza or bird flu.
It's been detected again in New Jersey, evidenced
by the yellow caution tape, blocking off parts
of Pete Sensei Park in Allentown Borough, Monmouth
County.
They actually have a helicopter shot of the
park with it taped off with yellow police
tape.
This is terrorism.
In the same town, Heritage Park has blockades
and caution tape.
It's where New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection
has found dead geese.
Those animals testing positive for bird flu.
One of them tested positive for H5N1.
The Burlington County Health Department is monitoring after
deceased wild Canada goose found in Pemberton tested
positive last week.
While there hasn't been any evidence of human
spread locally.
The cases that we have seen across the
country are primarily in commercial dairy and poultry
workers.
Shoppers are feeling an impact of the bird
flu in egg prices.
It's my husband and I, we spend a
lot of time trying to compare prices, whereas
find something suitable for home and not spending
too much.
Our data journalism team found the price of
eggs has jumped significantly in six weeks time.
At the start of 2025, a carton of
large eggs was just under $6.
Now the same dozen eggs will run you
839.
In response, restaurants like Waffle House and Denny's
have implemented egg surcharges.
And supermarkets like Costco and Trader Joe's have
imposed limits on the number of cartons you
can buy.
So I talked to a rancher out here
and he says, he doesn't have chickens, but
he's a rancher.
He says, this makes no sense.
He says, it makes no sense to vaccinate
these chickens.
The natural course, which has happened throughout history
is bird flu comes in, chickens get sick,
some will survive.
The ones that survive, you wanna keep those
going, keep that lineage going.
Killing the whole flock is just dumb.
That's what a lot of people say.
Well, there you go.
It just encourages more bird flu.
Yeah, the chickens will self-breed bird flu
out of the system.
But whatever you do, be afraid.
We have a viewer question today.
It came from Facebook.
Diane wants to know, with the increase in
bird flu cases, is it safe to fill
the bird feeders in my yard?
Such a good question, right?
Because a lot of us have them out
in our yards now.
The wildlife experts say that it's okay to
maintain a bird feeder in your property or
on your property, as long as you don't
live near a farm or have domestic fowl
in your yards, things like chickens and ducks.
Of course, you wanna wash your hands after
you touch your feeder and you wanna clean
the feeder itself pretty frequently.
And if you see any dead or sick
birds, you wanna call the Mass Department of
Agricultural Resources.
Oh yeah, call your local authorities if you
see a dead bird.
Don't touch the dead birds.
It's not a good idea.
Yeah, if you're in Africa, you'd eat the
thing.
All right, and I have a couple of
NPR pieces on this because they title this,
The Battle Against Bird Flu.
Cut one.
Bird flu has been spreading in the United
States.
Yeah, the first person to die from bird
flu was reported last month.
And two people were recently hospitalized in Wyoming
and Ohio.
The CDC still says the risk to humans
is low, but inside the poultry industry, there's
a fight brewing over how to take the
battle against bird flu to the next level.
Kate Wells of Michigan Public and KFF Health
News is reporting on all this.
Kate, good morning.
Good morning.
Okay, so what are you hearing from egg
farmers here?
Yeah, they say that they are just flat
out losing this battle against bird flu at
this point.
They are desperate for new tools at this
point.
They see what they have been doing to
try to contain the outbreak just is not
working.
I talked with Greg Herbrook.
He's the CEO of Herbrook's Poultry Ranch.
It's one of the largest egg producers in
the US.
And in April, three of his sites got
hit with bird flu, one right after the
other, and he ended up having to kill
six and a half million chickens.
Wow.
The mental toll on our team of dealing
with that many dead chickens is just, I
mean, you can't imagine.
And they only have to kill them because
the health agencies require it.
I don't think that's the choice they would
want to make.
It's something, who is in charge of this
now?
Who's in charge?
Who is the new secretary of agriculture?
Well, that question has to be, well, the
secretary, I don't know, but all those questions
that you just asked me right there should
have been in these reports, right?
Let's check out Cut2.
So he used the USDA tried and true
playbook here.
It's the stamping out method.
Right after detection, like within 24 to 48
hours, the whole flock has to be culled.
There's a bunch of cleaning and sanitizing, and
this is to prevent the birds from dying
really painful, grisly deaths, but it's also to
try to keep the virus- Grisly?
We're trying to be humane to the chickens
because killing them to eat is fine.
Yeah, killing them this way- Is better.
Is better than killing- Give me a
break.
But it's not grisly, or is it?
No.
We don't know.
Yeah, I don't know, but we're doing it
to think of the chickens.
Birds from dying really painful, grisly deaths, but
it's also to try to keep the virus
from spreading even further.
And this works, like in the 2014 and
2015 outbreak, ever since then, farmers have put
in tens of millions of dollars in biosecurity,
like employees showering in and out, lasers that
can stop potentially infected wild birds from landing,
but none of it is working this time.
Of course not, because it's dumb.
Flu viruses are constantly evolving, right?
And this particular strain of the virus has
gotten so good at infecting new species, not
just wild birds that migrate, but also more
than 40 species of mammals.
You've heard about dairy cows, but also dolphins,
rats, skunks- And by this point, bird
flu is just too- Bird flu is
now in dolphins.
I have not heard this.
By the way, you've got to dig up,
you've got to start playing one of our
jingle clips, the war on chickens.
Yes, rats.
I think this is all part of it.
Yes.
Skunks.
And by this point, bird flu is just
too embedded in our environment for us to
just stamp it out.
I also talked with David Swain.
He is a former U.S.- Who
is this being bad?
He's one of the leading avian influenza experts.
And he says, look, it's time for the
U.S. to try vaccinating poultry for bird
flu.
He says this is good as a tool,
not just to reduce the virus in animals.
Here's Swain.
But also a tool that reduces chances for
human infection.
But egg producers, they will need the green
light from the federal government before they can
try this.
The war on chicken.
As a final 30-second here, what about
poultry farmers that raise chicken for meat?
For meat.
So they are very against this vaccination plan
- No kidding.
They could lose billions of dollars a year
in trade deals if the U.S. does
start vaccinating poultry.
And that's because a lot of countries, they
don't wanna buy meat from a country that
is vaccinating any chickens.
Those countries are worried that the vaccine can
mask symptoms in birds and that the virus
could maybe get across their borders in that
meat undetected.
But the pressure on the U.S. government
to do something new is clearly growing.
Brooke Rollins is our 33rd Secretary of Agriculture.
Hmm, okay.
She didn't mention in this report, I don't
understand this.
We hear enough of this stuff so we
can get kind of a broad-based look
at things in terms of the reporting.
And what wasn't mentioned is that the chickens
who are the meat chickens, there's a different
type of farming.
The whole thing is different.
They're not the same.
No.
And they haven't had bird flu outbreaks in
the meat chicken.
That's why chicken meat, you can go buy
legs and thighs and breasts and the price
has not changed.
It may have gone down a few cents.
Hmm, hmm.
This has been reported over and over, but
I guess it's been forgotten already.
I have a lot of clips with questions
for you actually.
So we need to talk about oil because
there's a massive pivot taking place where people
are talking about, now we gotta get back
and it's not gonna work.
This green revolution is not happening.
We haven't done it fast enough.
So we're gonna have to go back and
start producing more oil.
We couldn't go any faster.
So this is the report about BP and
others.
BP's announcement sort of flies in the face
of the direction they were heading in, but
it seems that they're not alone.
That's quite right.
So when you look at BP's trajectory back
in 2020, they announced their net zero objectives,
how they plan to get to net zero
by 2050.
And it was a plan to reduce oil
and gas production by 40% by 2030.
And the announcement was as well, no new
oil and gas exploration in any new currently
uninvested in countries.
However, since then the tides clearly turned.
Profits took a hit in 2024, by which
I don't mean it stopped being profitable, profits
were just smaller, dividends were smaller.
Oh, oh, oh, curse those rich people.
And now they're calling a reset.
The new CEO has said, this is a
reset BP with an unwavering focus on growing
long-term shareholder value.
How does he plan to get there?
Well, the pivot is boosting fossil fuel investment
to $10 billion per year, cutting what they
call the transition business.
So that's all things, renewable EV batteries, also
hydrogen, cutting that to just 1.5 to
2 billion a year.
And when you read the announcement, you look
at the text of it, the words they're
using for investment in these transition industries are
things like disciplined, selective, focused and capital light.
They're going to keep these investments capital light,
which you might say is code for the
absolute bare minimum.
Yes, code bond genome.
Okay, the question is coming, but first we
have to hear that not just BP, but
many other large multinationals are just giving up
on it.
Now, they're not alone.
As you say, just last year, Shell announced
that they were reducing their green ambitions.
They had planned a 45% cut in
their carbon intensity by 2035.
The new CEO said that any such plans
were perilous and scrapped them.
More recently, you've got Equinor, the Norwegian oil
company who used to be called State Oil,
who rebranded in 2018, no doubt to part
with that extremely fossil fuel heavy image that
they had.
They recently announced that they will be halving
renewables investment in the next two years and
upping oil and gas production.
The reason given, they don't see the necessary
profitability in these energies for the future.
So this is a whole industry.
Unashamedly, you might say shamelessly putting profitability over
all else, including accompanying the green transition.
Yeah, good luck with your messaging.
Oh, they're shamelessly putting profits up against the
survival of human nature.
So President Trump has said- The human
species, not human nature.
Yeah, human species.
So President Trump has said, drill, baby, drill.
And CNN brings on some expert and talks
about the types of crude oil that we
have in the United States and whether we
can actually, if we actually have the right
kind of oil to make our country run.
And I know that you happen to be
an absolute expert in this particular area.
No, you're an expert.
You're an expert, just- I am.
Okay, and I'm going to- And I
play one on a podcast.
Yeah, so a podspert, if you will.
So I'm going to treat you as such.
Ladies and gentlemen, you have oil expert John
C.
Dvorak with us today.
John, I want you to listen to this
clip and then I want your expert insight
into what they're saying.
New CNN reporting this morning shows a problem
with President Trump- Why are you yelling?
Trump's vision of energy independence.
According to the president, unleashing U.S. drilling
would reduce gas prices, reduce America's cost of
living, and increase the nation's energy independence.
CNN Chief Climate Correspondent Bill Weir is here.
And the issue, as you report, is drilling
for what exactly?
Yeah, have you noticed the president leaves facts
out sometimes- Oh no!
When he makes these grand statements about how
we can just get off of all the
foreign oil that comes from Canada, Mexico, Saudi
Arabia, these places?
One huge problem, not all oil is created
equally.
Let's talk about the basics.
It's everything from sweet, light crude, which is
like the champagne of oil, down to heavy
sour, which is more like wet coffee grounds,
right?
This stuff is light and easier to process,
and the U.S. pumps a lot of
it.
We use it to export, and it goes
into kerosene and gasoline.
The problem is the country was built on
sticky coffee grounds over the years, and so
our U.S. refineries are set up to
process the heavy, dense stuff, the Albertus tar
sands.
The clue's in the name.
It looks like sandy tar, and it is
processed this way.
Meanwhile, along the Gulf of Mexico, a lot
of these refineries can deal with more of
the lighter champagne stuff, and here's the big
problem, John.
We produce a lot more champagne than coffee
grounds, exporting about 13 million barrels a day
of the light, sweet stuff, while importing about
half that much from these other countries, so
again, the idea that we could shut off
imports from Canada and not feel the ramifications,
it would completely upend the refinery system and
would drive gas prices through the ceiling.
It's just not what we're built for.
Exactly, exactly.
The infrastructure's not here.
All right, I'm gonna bring in our resident
expert now, John C.
Dvorak.
He is a podcaster and a columnist, and
John, we'd like to know, can we actually
- That is the biggest- Wait, can
we, I'm doing your intro.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Podcaster and columnist, John C.
Dvorak, and John, what you just heard there,
can you give us some insight into whether
it is actually the champagne of oil that
we can not refine or the coffee ground
of oil that we can refine that will
keep this country moving?
We go to John.
All right.
Okay, so here's, refineries can handle pretty much,
except for refineries that are specialized in the
champagne style of what he's talking about, super
sweet oil, which is like Bolivian, for example.
Those guys, they set up shop to do
that kind of oil because it's harder to
take this crappy sour, which means it's full
of sulfur, is what that refers to, and
it stinks.
And you have to run it through a
more elaborate system to get the sulfur out
and to crack it and to refine it
in the cracking processes to break it down.
The sweet stuff, all refineries can take that
stuff because it's easy to process.
You run it right through.
What?
And you bypass some of the cracking gear
if you have to.
What?
It doesn't make any difference.
It's the best stuff.
That guy's full of crap.
All the refineries, I don't know of a
refinery that wouldn't prefer nothing but sweet because
it's a pain in the ass to break
down the other stuff.
So, wait, CNN was lying?
No, they were ignorant.
Let's go to another clip from CNN.
This is about the oil companies who, of
course, were all against CapEx and new investments
in drilling because Wall Street wanted to have
revenue and not investment.
That's according to the oil baron.
I will have to talk to him about
this.
Ken, how do the oil companies feel about
these calls to drill, drill, drill more?
Do they feel like they can?
Well, it all comes down to economics.
The price of a barrel of oil, the
projections, you know, it takes 10 years sometimes
to get a well operating.
And so they're looking over at China where
almost half of the new cars sold are
electric.
They're looking at oil demands around the world,
how they might sink.
What?
Petrochemicals, plastics.
What?
What'd you say?
Half of the new cars sold are electric?
That's not even close.
Maybe 10%, I think.
It's definitely not half.
This is bogative.
Cars sold are, wait, let me get back
here.
Electric.
China, where almost half of the new.
Oh, China.
He said in China.
In China.
Oh, in China, yeah.
It's true in China.
They're looking over at China where almost half
of the new cars sold are electric.
They're looking at oil demands around the world,
how they might sink.
Petrochemicals, plastics.
Plastics.
All of those calculations are going into how
they do this.
So there's.
But what are the plastics made of?
Champagne or coffee grounds?
You can make it out of anything.
Okay.
It's not a huge demand.
There's not sort of, you know, he was
prom, these oil CEOs were promised complete carte
blanche deregulation, but they're not exactly chomping at
the bit to open new wells.
And we're talking about wells, we're not talking
about shale, or are we talking about both?
Shale oil, big fracking boom has led to
a massive spike in natural gas, which is
a different kind of fuel, of course, and
a lot more of the sweet, light champagne
that comes out of those fracking wells.
Right.
You've made me thirsty.
Bill Weir, thank you very much.
But you'll have to say that every barrel
of this stuff that gets pumped and burns,
most is closer to a climate crisis.
And the alternatives are cheaper than the petrochemicals.
So something to keep in mind.
So there's that too.
In addition to everything else.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
All right.
So they're full of crap.
Full of crap.
I don't know what the point of that
report was.
Just to slam Trump.
Yeah.
Well, no.
And the thing is that they never bring
up, and I don't know why this is,
because I bring it up, and it doesn't
benefit the Republicans, that's for sure, is that
during the Biden administration, we've drilled more and
pumped more than ever before, the whole time.
It was a lie.
Oh, we're going to move away from fossil
fuels.
Just the opposite happened.
But no one wants to bring that up
because they don't want to bring up the
hypocrisy of it all.
They don't want to bring up the price,
the fact that I think Exxon doubled, the
stock price doubled.
Exxon is doing nothing but kicking ass because
they never bought into a lot of the
green stuff.
And they just pumping oil out of the
ground like there's no tomorrow.
And the stock went through the roof during
the Biden administration.
But nobody even brings any of that up.
It's baffling to me.
What?
Gambling?
Please.
I am baffled.
I'm totally baffled.
Well, the baffling move is the unprecedented move
that this White House has made by saying
they're going to select who can be in
the press room, who can be in the
Oval Office.
Because as you know, if you can't be
in there, you can't report to the American
people.
Although I find that an interesting argument because
as far as I can tell, it's streamed
live on every platform known to man whenever
there's a press conference and whenever the president
is sitting in his Oval Office.
But this is very controversial and it's going
to ruin the geek party known as the
White House Correspondents Dinner because it seems they're
just going to have to fall apart.
A select group of DC-based journalists should
no longer have a monopoly over the privilege
of press access at the White House.
All journalists, outlets, and voices deserve a seat
at this highly coveted table.
So by deciding which outlets make up the
limited press pool on a day-to-day
basis, the White House will be restoring power
back to the American people who President Trump
was elected to serve.
We can now bring in Jodi Ginzburg, Chief
Executive Officer of the Committee to Protect Journalists,
who joins us from New York.
Thank you so much for joining us on
the program today.
Your reaction to this latest move from the
White House?
This is a terrible move, to be honest.
The way that the press pool works is
that those who are in the press pool,
which, as you say, is a small group
of people because you can't have the 800
journalists who are members of the White House
Correspondents Association all crowd into a room with
the president everywhere he goes, they provide information
to everybody else.
So all of the news about the president
that people get from their local radio stations,
for example, or in their regional newspapers, will
have come very often from the press pool.
And it's vital that those are independently selected,
that they're not in the gift of the
president and the administration whom they are covering.
Why do this now?
Well, this has come, it's believed, in reaction
to something that the Associated Press, one of
the wire news agencies, again, a service that
many other news outlets use, I imagine including
France 24, has done, it is said in
its style guide, which is used by many,
many news organizations, it will continue to call
the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico.
Donald Trump has said that within America, it
should be known as the Gulf of America
and has barred the Associated Press from the
pool.
And there seems to be an extension of
that.
What it is, is an attempt to exert
more and more control over the press and
over the information that the public receives.
So even though this was phone dads for
the people, actually, this is not serving the
people at all.
It's not serving the people.
It's not serving the people at all.
Why won't the, what bug or hair crawled
up the AP's butt that they won't just
call it the Gulf of America?
I mean, why is this, why are they,
to quote your phrase, dying on this hill?
Well, there was somebody obviously at the operation
and the higher up saying, yeah, why are
we gonna be pushed around to be told
what to do?
We'll call it what we wanna call it.
And the White House took offense.
And the next thing you know, there's some
snowballing.
You get to, somebody finally took a, I
always thought it was corrupt that you had
one group, one lone group, the White House
Press Association, I guess is what it's called,
which used to be run by John Carl
over at CBS or ABC.
John Carl ran it.
He's a Trump hater and they get to
pick and choose who gets to go in
there and what they get to ask to
the point where they're almost scripting the questions.
And the whole thing is a scam in
some way and it should be open to
any bloggers, anyone who wants to, who can
find their way in there.
And besides that, it's like, you're right.
It's being streamed.
Yeah.
I mean, of course the AP can't ask
questions if they're not in the room.
When was the last time the AP, I
mean, how often does the AP ask questions?
I don't know, but I don't know.
It's usually, the guys in front, CBS, ABC,
NBC, sometimes OAN and a few other people
will ask the questions and I don't know.
I think that's making them, I think it's
an association that had control and they lost
control and now they're whining.
Yeah, okay.
And you should hear some of the press
people that are, oh, they should, this spineless
press, this is from journalists who are activists.
The spineless press, they should all walk out
and stop covering Trump because Trump will, because
he needs attention.
He's like a big baby.
He needs so much attention that if they
all walked out and didn't show up, then
he would die on the vine.
You're right, they are spineless because they'll never
do that because they know they're already mortally
wounded.
The elite messaging system is completely broken.
Do you remember the first, I was just
thinking about this the other day.
See if I have a clip of it.
When President Trump ran the first time and
he was a laughing stock, this was what
was going on at the time, 2015.
We need to talk about this.
Let's do it.
Because I think you guys have made a
mistake.
Yeah, so, I mean, nobody can deny that
Donald Trump is partly where he is in
the polls because of the media coverage.
And our big statement is that Donald Trump
is not a serious candidate.
He's an entertainer.
But you can't do that.
You, along with the Huffington Post, Washington Bureau
Chief, it's Ryan Grim.
You wrote this month or last month explaining
your decision not to cover the campaign of
Donald Trump as part of your political coverage.
And this is what you said.
You said, Trump's campaign is a sideshow.
We won't take the bait.
If you're interested in what the Donald has
to say, you'll find it next to our
stories on the Kardashians and The Bachelorette.
Okay, except- You remember that?
When all they did was cover- I
do remember that.
They made a big fuss about it.
Entertainment section.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So, although that was Huffington Post, it wasn't
AP, but it's all part of the same
system.
These guys suck.
All right, I have, first I have a
little bit of outrage and then I want
to explain what's going on because it's just
marketing, but that's not what the view, ladies
here.
Yesterday, the White House announced a brand new
path to U.S. residency.
Spit it out.
With an expensive toll.
Selling a gold card.
You have a green card.
This is a gold card.
We're going to be putting a price on
that card of about five billion dollars and
that's going to give you green card privileges
plus.
It's going to be a route to citizenship
and wealthy people will be coming into our
country by buying this card.
They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful and
they'll be spending a lot of money and
paying a lot of taxes and employing a
lot of people and we think it's going
to be extremely successful.
Would a Russian oligarch be eligible for a
gold card?
Yeah, possibly.
Hey, I know some Russian oligarchs that are
very nice people.
No.
Oh, no.
You know, remember when Elon bought America?
Yeah.
He could have saved money with this.
The way that he talks about it, it
makes it sound like America's for sale to
the highest bidder.
I don't like that, but what I will
say, this is actually.
Wait, hold on.
Are we selling the country to the highest?
Yes.
Yes, this is.
I thought they were selling a citizenship to
the country, not the country itself.
No, we're selling off.
Did I mishear something?
No, you heard them right, but this is
part of what they do.
This is their job.
Expansion on the existing EB-5 visa program.
I have some questions because those are basically
meant to incentivize the best and brightest to
come to America to create jobs here.
Not true.
To hire people, contribute tax revenue, but I
want to know, is there national security vetting?
So yes, could a terrorist organization or a
Russian oligarch come in?
And then just, again, don't make it sound
like we're for sale.
Make it sound like you want to come
here because you want to be in America.
Now, well, you said it sounded like we
were for sale, but if you really look
at what President Trump has done here, it's
just a rebrand of an existing program and
it's not unique to America.
More on that plan.
Let's cross live now to Fraser Jackson, our
correspondent in Washington.
So Fraser, we heard there from Donald Trump,
Russian oligarchs may be eligible.
What more do we know?
Well, as you heard there, Donald Trump said
the immigration program, which he said was legal,
would be open to possible Russian oligarchs.
He said that they could potentially qualify for
the gold cards.
He said that he expects this program to
be up and running in about two weeks.
Now, it should be noted that there is
already a similar program in effect here in
the United States.
It's called the EB-5 immigrant investor visa.
And if you remember during the first term,
Donald Trump said that he was going to
be raising the minimum for that card from
1 million to 1.8 million.
Well, that entire system has now been scrapped
entirely and seemingly replaced by this gold card
system where the buy-in fee is effectively
$5 million.
It's also not only a US kind of
thing.
We have seen this in multiple other countries
around the world.
It exists in Canada.
It also exists in places closer to home
in the UK, sorry, in the EU rather,
like places like Spain, Portugal, and Malta as
well.
So nothing completely new here from Donald Trump,
effectively just raising the bar that it costs
to get into the United States.
But the land about the oligarchy will likely
be picked up upon by the more progressive
parts of the United States political spectrum.
Yeah, like The View.
Exactly.
It's an existing program.
It's called the EBM, I think EBM-5.
And not like Sonny Hostin said is based
on merit.
No, it was about a million bucks, million
and a half.
And he's just rebranded it to the gold
card and called it five.
Yeah, he added some money to it.
This has been going on in Canada forever
during the 1997 Hong Kong turnover.
I think Australia too.
The Hong Kongers were moving to Canada, especially
BC, like by the dozens.
And I think it was only $250,000.
You know what Trump should do?
If I were the president, I would say,
you have the green card.
We all know that's hard to come by.
You have the gold card.
And then you can get the USA Plus
bundle.
Platinum card too.
Platinum, you get a tote bag.
You get a tour.
Tote bag.
You get a tour of the White House
and you get a newsletter.
That would be, he should keep going with
that.
It's very entertaining.
And we're all upset about it.
How can we do four more years of
this?
I don't know if I can handle this
media.
They're so out of control.
They're so charged up.
They're gonna have to, I hate to use
the word, I'm gonna use it.
They're gonna have to pivot.
Why would they?
Because they're succeeding.
They're succeeding.
I'll tell you.
Yes.
Because if they have their asses handed to
them and in the midterms, they're gonna have
to pivot.
I mean, there's some signs of it now
with the so-called middle range Democrats, mid
-road Democrats, whatever they wanna call themselves.
I will, I should play this clip.
This is not the same.
It's kind of the same kind of thing.
There's a group that's just started up.
If you remember the Lincoln Project and some
of these Trump haters, these Republicans.
Well, there's a new group that just started
up and there's this, I got a very
short one-minute clip, less than a minute
about it from NPR.
And they just had their first conference.
It's called Principles First.
And this is, wait, wait, wait.
Yep, waiting.
Principles First is conservative Republicans who believe in
the old Barry Goldwater style, conservatism, real republicanism.
They don't like what Trump's done to the
party.
They wanna go back to the old ways,
the old ways from 1964, none dare call
it treason era.
And so they've put together, it's just a
bunch of Trump haters, let's face it, because
most of the guys who were in that
period were- Haters United, THU, just do
it, just call it what it is.
I agree, anyway, here's the clip.
Former Republican U.S. Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales
says President Trump's decision to pardon January 6th
rioters is a betrayal of the American justice
system.
NPR's Sarah McCammon reports, Gonzales made the comments
during a gathering of anti-Trump conservatives in
Washington, D.C. Alberto Gonzales served as White
House Counsel and then United States Attorney General
under President George W.
Bush.
Speaking at the Principles First Summit in Washington,
D.C., Gonzales criticized several Trump administration decisions.
It is a betrayal to the men and
women at the Department of Justice who were
fired because they participated in the prosecution of
the January 6th rioters.
Gonzales went on to criticize Trump's decision to
pardon some 1,500 people convicted in connection
with the attack on the Capitol in 2021.
He said the president has that power under
the law, but said it was, quote, the
wrong thing to do.
Okay.
Well, that's about all they had to report
on it, but this has been, this little
operation is something to keep an eye on.
And what are they called again?
Principles First.
They're the high school principals, which it seems
is what they're kind of thinking like, but
they mean the principles of true conservatism versus
Trumpism.
And they think that, you know, Trump's a
bad guy.
Yeah, no, he's horrible.
So I want to go to Doge for
a second, because I do have a question
for you as a former government employee.
But first, probably for one of the last
times, and we did see her crying on
TikTok.
Did you see Joy Reid crying on TikTok?
Oh, everybody saw Joy Reid crying on TikTok.
My best is the side-by-side where
she, they have a clip of her ridiculing
people who cry.
And then her crying.
I feel bad for her.
So I'm not going to play that, but
I'm going to play one of her, I
think her last show was this Friday.
So here she is on the resistance Americans,
America finding ways to resist, resist Doge.
This regime.
Regime.
That we find ourselves living under is producing
massive chaos and trauma in the lives of
federal workers and in the country.
Chaos and trauma, no good.
Yeah, we can't have trauma.
Workers and in the country.
Just look at this latest round of protests
at Tesla dealerships, at town halls.
America is resisting in large ways and small.
America is saying no to Elon Musk running
us.
We do not want him in charge, period.
And Donald Trump, the guy who handed his
biggest donor, the keys to the whole federal
government for him to do whatever he pleases
with it is underwater in every single poll.
From Gallup to the Washington Post, to CNN,
to Reuters.
You name it.
Other than his man, nobody wants this chaos.
Well, since you brought that up, I think
it's hilarious.
Ah, do I have it here?
I had a clip of CNN talking about,
cause you know, they have a poll now.
They've got all kinds of polls.
But let me finish with Joy Reid because
she mentioned some blatant anti-Trump news organizations
there and they have their polls and all
the country hates it.
We resist it, large and small.
Everyone, no, we don't want Elon running anything.
No.
Give me an assessment from your expert point
of view of the resistance that we're seeing
in the country to all of the doge
Elon Musk, Trump chaos.
Yeah, so as we know, we don't have
a big generalized nonviolent mass protest, but we
have righteous indignation of breaking out spontaneously.
Righteous indignation.
There's a couple of terms coming up, right?
Like righteous indignation.
That's a good one.
Indignation of breaking out spontaneously all over the
nation.
And Joy, I really believe that there's a
reckoning that's going to come because what's happening
now at the hands of literally the world's
richest man who has taken control of our
government and is using it to enrich himself
and investigating, he's destroying agencies that have been
investigating his companies.
This brings forth such, it brings to a
peak all of the unfairness of neoliberalism, all
of the kind of the rich get richer
and that's one part of authoritarianism.
It's more, fewer rights for the many and
way more liberties for the few.
And so we're seeing a kind of indignation
and anger that's erupting at local town halls
in front of GOP members of Congress in
their town halls.
And so this is a very good sign
of something larger that I believe will come.
All right, so now is the term that
I'm sure you know more about than most.
As Elon Musk and the Department of Government
Efficiency and the Trump administration more broadly make
efforts to reform government and eliminate needless waste,
fraud and abuse, they're coming up against predictably
negative press coverage from the mainstream media, which
is often sympathetic to government employees and hostile
toward efforts to reduce the size and scope
of government.
That's why you'll often see, read and hear
stories about how some attempt or another by
Trump or Elon to change or mandate a
new system or eliminate it is resulting in
headaches for various people.
For instance, you might've read last week that
DOJ's efforts to reduce the federal workforce as
it pertains to the US park system was
creating long lines.
The Washington Post complained that the Trump administration
had gotten rid of the only locksmith at
Yosemite National Park.
He was described as the only employee with
quote, institutional knowledge needed to rescue visitors from
locked restrooms.
Sounds serious, right?
Elsewhere, you'll see constant complaints from media that
attempts to reduce the federal bureaucracy will hamstring
our efforts to fight diseases or have nuclear
safety or keep airplanes in the sky.
But what if there was something not entirely
genuine about these difficulties?
What if the federal bureaucracy sensing a threat
to its self-preservation was making things as
awful as possible in order to scare the
American people into thinking government can only function
if it is vast and unaccountable.
We actually have a term for this.
It's called malicious compliance.
It's when someone follows a new rule so
closely without applying common sense, such that they
ultimately work against the rule's stated purpose deliberately.
Okay, malicious compliance.
Is this a term you're familiar with?
Actually, no, but I know the process because
it's been done.
It's a standard operating procedure for anyone unionized.
It's called slowdown.
Ah, yeah, slowdown, right.
Everyone's heard of that.
But I did malicious compliance when I was
working in the private sector as an inspector
for Trailmobile.
It's an interesting story.
I used to, there used to be one
guy on the line of the line I
was inspecting who was kind of an amateur
comedian and I'd spend a lot of time
chatting with him until one day the foreman
of that line, the manufacturing guy, wasn't my
foreman.
He wasn't my supervisor, but he comes up
to me and he says, you know, you
chewed me out for wasting this guy's time
chatting with him.
And so it was like, okay, you want
to play that way?
I went back to the line and started
tagging because there's lots of flaws that most
inspectors just overlook because you don't- Wait,
was this when you were a can inspector?
No, no, this is cargo containers.
Oh, you inspected cargo containers too?
Yes, I did.
Wow.
For Pacific, for Mattson, Pacific, whatever their company
is, there's a bunch of different ones.
But in this case, they were aluminum.
And so these containers would come through and
I would just start tagging everything, any little
flaw, which normally you let pass because, you
know, you got to get these things out.
You can't just, because everything's flawed.
And so I just covered these containers with
these red tags and it's basically stopped the
line because you have to go back and
fix all this stuff, even though it's diddly
shit.
And so the guy, within just a few
hours, it didn't take that long, this foreman
comes up to me and apologizes profusely for
chewing me out and saying, you can do
it, you know, I'm sorry.
And he was just bending, he was just
almost in tears.
And that's what you can do if you're
one of these types of people like me.
So I can see malicious compliance.
I never did anything like that when I
was working for the government, but I can
see how you can do it.
So in these days of schedule F, if
someone's, if government workers think that malicious compliance
is the way, they may find themselves getting
canned.
Well, I wasn't worried about getting canned for
what I did on the Trailmobile line.
No, but if they're locking restrooms.
I disagree with that.
I think most of the time, especially if
you go with the way they described as
malicious compliance.
In other words, going by the book.
It's very hard to can somebody when they
can point at the regulation and say, look,
this is what it says to do.
I know we haven't been doing this, but
now that I'm worried about my job, I'm
gonna do this because it says I'm supposed
to.
So that's what I'm doing while you're firing
me.
This is what, you can do this.
It's doable and it works.
Of course, the question is how much resistance
is there?
Are people really upset?
Is this just magnification by the M5M?
It's magnification totally because everything I've seen so
far is mostly, employees on probation that don't
know how to pull these stunts.
Hold on a second.
Hold on, we have data.
We have data.
We have data that people hate Elon Musk
and Doge.
Data incoming, CNN.
Matt, anecdotes are not data, but we're starting
to get some data.
The anecdotes are not data.
Yeah, well, here it is.
She's got data.
Matt, anecdotes are not data, but we're starting
to get some data that puts numbers behind
this with 51% of respondents in a
recent CNN poll saying that President Trump's efforts
- So they bring in a CNN poll,
which is the same as a smirconish.
You know, it's like, well, let's just put
some numbers together.
We have a CNN poll.
We're CNN.
We have a CNN poll.
We don't like Trump.
Here's our data.
Puts numbers behind this with 51% of
respondents in a recent CNN poll saying that
President Trump's efforts to cut federal programs have
gone too far.
54% say they do not support him
giving Elon Musk this prominent role.
And a full 53% are afraid or
pessimistic about the rest of his term.
Oh, the data is in.
The data is in.
Yeah.
It's horrible.
Oh, luckily the public's not watching CNN.
No.
So I heard an interesting stat on, it
was actually on Fox News from this economist.
I think it may be an investor economist,
dude.
Gary Kaltbaum, ever hear of him?
No.
And, you know, and the thing is there's
so much, what's the term?
There's so much difference in the numbers that
everybody's giving on everything, just like measles and
the efficacy of the measles vaccine.
How much money do we actually send to
Ukraine, which is another one of those.
Remember they kept sending 40 billion here, 40
billion there.
It was like this, the same number, 40
billion, 40 billion.
So you couldn't, you kind of lose track
of how many times we sent 40 billion.
And, you know, so some say, you know,
the president says 500, then it's 350.
Zelensky, Macron says, no, no, no, we sent
60% of all the money.
Everyone's all over the map with these numbers.
And then there's also the Trump, you know,
he spent $7 trillion during his first term,
$8 trillion.
And here's the guy, Kalkbaum, talking about what
was spent during the Biden administration.
I think the best move would be to
first take down the debt, take down the
size of government, which by the way, is
up 60 some odd percent since the year
before COVID.
That's our government spending and has quadrupled since
the year 2000, which is quite the insanity.
The biggest bull market and the biggest inflation
we do have is the size of our
government that went unchecked with absolutely zero accountability
whatsoever.
So it is about time somebody's in there.
And the more I see people complain, the
more I know that they're probably in the
soup and have been a big part of
it.
I think he's probably right.
No, he's completely right.
But the thing is, I keep falling back
on my thesis, which is that this is
just a giant jobs program to keep us
out of the drink.
What do you mean?
How does it keep us out of the
drink?
Well, you keep it because you're putting money
back in circulation.
You're keeping people employed.
You're keeping them off the streets.
You're doing everything you can, you know, to
keep things propped up.
And you end up with what amounts to
being a jobs program.
And then if you try to straighten it
out, it's going to cause an economic collapse
at some point.
2026 is my prediction.
Well, we always said that as we were
looking the ramp up to this election with
President Trump, we always said, the Democrats probably
want him to win because the crap is
coming.
Everybody knows it.
Everybody sees it.
And they want him to deal with it.
And I think he knows it too.
And it's probably coming.
He might be right.
He might know it.
I think it's coming.
Well, let's talk about migration for a moment
as we have a big change in New
York City.
Over the last two years, the Roosevelt Hotel
has been the first stop for more than
173,000 immigrants in search of the American
dream, which is now set to shut its
doors in June.
Today marks another milestone.
Mayor Eric Adams making the announcement early Monday
morning on social media.
We are now in a place where we
are asking, well, where do people go?
This 38-year-old mother of three arrived
from Peru two months ago.
She says, they haven't told us anything.
On the contrary, they told us that when
they heard those rumors in the news that
we should be calm.
They're not going to move us.
They haven't told us anything about getting us
out of here or that they're going to
close the Roosevelt.
But the number of migrants in the city's
care are dramatically dropping over the last year
after the city implemented a 60-day stay
limit, purchased 53,000 tickets for migrants to
relocate to other cities, and helped nearly 100
,000 asylum seekers apply for work authorizations.
Not to mention the fears sparked by the
recent immigrant crackdown factoring into a decline in
new arrivals.
Now, the closing of the Roosevelt Hotel comes
just a week after Deputy Mayor Anne Williams
Isom, who has overseen asylum seekers over the
last two years.
It comes right after that.
So it's a timely announcement.
Right now, we know that 53 shelters will
be closing by mid-year, and how exactly
they're going to wind down operations here at
the Roosevelt Hotel remains to be seen.
This is going to be interesting.
That is such a prime piece of real
estate.
Will they bring back a flea bag motel
as the Roosevelt?
Or turn it into a five-star luxury
thing?
Well, in that report is something that I
have in another report, too.
These are asylum seekers, I think, mostly.
Is that what we're talking about here?
Because you brought them in.
The family's from Peru?
What's going on in Peru?
It's a problematic country.
By the way, Peru, interestingly enough, if you
look at download statistics from podcasts, there's always
a lot of downloads in Peru.
But yet we get no donations from Peru.
We don't have any, because there's nothing happening
in Peru except some farm that's putting numbers
up for the Midas Touch podcast.
The podcast industrial complex, the Midas Touch.
It's bullcrap.
You worked in a company that did that.
No, I cannot confirm or deny.
So, well, let's talk, we're going to talk
about these refugees.
Let's get the refugee problem on PBS.
I got a four-parter here that's kind
of interesting.
Let's play these.
A federal judge in Seattle has blocked President
Trump's executive order halting the admission of refugees
into the US.
The judge said the administration had likely exceeded
its authority by freezing the US refugee admissions
program, which was established by Congress back in
1980.
It remains to be seen whether the administration
will comply, while a lawsuit challenging the ban
filed by some of the country's largest resettlement
organizations works its way through the courts.
We're joined now by Mark Hetfield.
He's the president of HIAS.
That's the country's oldest refugee resettlement agency.
And the organization's also a plaintiff in that
lawsuit.
Thanks for being with us.
Thank you, Jeff.
So first, help us understand what the US
refugee admissions program is, how does the program
work, and who does it aim to assist?
Sure.
So the program was started in 1980 by
the Refugee Act of 1980 to provide a
safe and legal pathway for people fleeing persecution
or war or conflict to come to the
United States to either join with family or
to meet foreign policy, humanitarian policy priorities of
the United States government.
So what was the material impact of this
suspension?
How were the refugees affected and your employees
as well?
It was devastating.
And this was not just a mere suspension
like it was in the first Trump term.
This was a complete dismantlement of the refugee
program because not only did all refugees, not
only were all refugees stopped from arriving, but
also all the processing offices were shut down.
Everything was defunded.
So it's gonna be almost impossible to start
it back up.
And in terms of the actual impact, for
example, my agency had 621 refugees who were
vetted by Homeland Security, approved by Homeland Security,
had plane tickets in hand, were supposed to
arrive in February, but they're not coming.
Oh man, I love this organization.
This is another religious-based organization.
This is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society who
in 2023, I'm gonna look up the 990
while we play the next clip, had $128
million in receipts.
So way to go.
Do-gooders.
They're very do-gooders.
Okay, let's go to the next clip.
The plane tickets were literally snatched out of
their hands.
So when you say it's nearly impossible to
restart this work, tell me more about that.
Well, to resettle refugees, you're gonna have to
have people that prepare their applications, that assist
them overseas, that give them cultural orientation, that
book their plane tickets, that then receive them
here in the United States, which is what
my agency HIAS does along with the other
non-resettlement agencies.
All of those things were completely defunded.
Your organization is a Jewish organization.
Many of the resettlement organizations are faith organizations.
How does faith inform the work that you
do?
Well, in the Torah, 36 times it's repeated
to welcome the stranger, to love the stranger
as ourselves, for we were once strangers ourselves.
And so it's really a fundamental part of
our history and of our values.
And not just going back to the holy
books, but also our more recent experience in
the 20th century, 21st century, the Jewish people
are a people who know displacement.
And so we are naturally empathetic.
I'm sure, as you know, Vice President J
.D. Vance recently accused the US Conference of
Catholic Bishops of profiting off its work resettling
refugees.
Do you or any of the organizations profit
off this work?
Is that even a motive of yours?
No.
Nah.
$25 million in salary says differently, as far
as I'm concerned, just looking at their 2023
990.
No, it's the same with the Lutherans.
Although the Lutheran church distanced themselves from the
Lutheran refugee program, saying, well, you know, that
thing was put together after World War II,
and we don't have anything to do with
it.
They just use the Lutheran name, which I'm
sure is exactly what HIAS is as well.
This is a giant scam.
And the Catholic Bishops Conference.
Yeah, right.
There's some nice salaries here.
And good parties, good parties, good parties.
No, so clip three has a contradictory piece
of information that I found interesting.
This is a labor of love.
This is something we have to raise money
for because we can't possibly do it on
the funding that the federal government gives us.
It is a public private partnership.
And so now we've raised lots of funding
to welcome refugees.
Stop the clip.
Public private partnership, that's good.
So public, we have to raise money because
we can't make it on the government money.
We need to raise money.
So wait a minute, then what difference does
it make that the government cut you off?
Yeah, yeah, no, I hear the contradiction, exactly.
And so now we've raised lots of funding
to welcome refugees to the United States, and
now none of them are coming, including refugees
who themselves are fleeing religious persecution.
Oh, so now you have to get a
real job.
Well, that sucks.
Because, you know, I think the government, something
like $1,700 per person they place, and
they're just placing people.
They're not housing people, as far as I
know.
Most of these organizations don't.
They place people.
And there's another thing in here, the highest
foundation.
There's a lot of things going on here.
In this show, we have a term for
this called sketchy.
Sketchy, yes.
And then they have the highest and council
migration service.
Wow.
Yeah, they talk people into coming, so let's
go to the last part.
Afghan, people who supported us in Afghanistan, people
who supported US veterans and risked their lives
or who worked for the US Embassy in
Kabul, they can't come.
People whose families were separated by conflict or
war, those parents and children will remain separated
indefinitely.
Those kids are essentially being orphaned by this
Trump administration policy.
The administration, in its executive order, argued that
the United States lacks the ability to absorb
large numbers of migrants, and in particular refugees,
into its communities in a manner that does
not compromise the availability of resources for Americans.
This is an argument the administration makes fairly
often, that resources are finite.
What's your reaction to that?
My reaction is that that's an argument that
the Trump administration made in 2017 and that
they themselves proved was fallacious.
In 2017, in the Muslim and Refugee Ban,
President Trump commissioned a study to demonstrate how
much resettled refugees cost the American taxpayer.
But they looked at both sides of the
ledger when they did that study, and they
found that over a 10-year period, resettled
refugees contributed 63 billion, with a B, dollars
more in federal, state, and local taxes than
they took in services and assistance.
So fortunately for us, while we welcome refugees
because it's the right thing to do, it
just also happens to be to the benefit
of the economy, to the benefit of the
country.
Refugees are a blessing.
They're not a burden.
I love how he starts off by saying,
we looked at what it costs the American
public, and then without answering that, he says,
but they really give us more to the
economy than it costs, without saying what it
costs.
Again, this is typical.
Yeah.
They never report on numbers.
They never give us numbers.
No, you have to go into the 990,
but you see there's a lot of money
going around.
This is actually one of the smaller ones.
What was the one in Austin that Obama
opened?
Austin, and it was like a billion dollars
a year.
Yeah, this is good stuff.
Yeah, it's good business.
To go on with the horrors of this,
we have some clips of what's going on
with the Costa Rica movement.
This is kind of interesting.
Costa Rica movement, huh?
Yeah, they're moving people through Costa Rica for
one reason or another, which I guess they've
been doing for a long time.
And this will be, the clip will be
Costa Rica BS1.
President Trump made carrying out the largest mass
deportation in US history a cornerstone of his
2024 campaign.
But there are reports he's unhappy with the
pace of that effort so far.
William Brangham reports now on a new controversial
tactic to carry out the administration's crackdown on
illegal migration.
This plane landed in San Jose, Costa Rica
last week, descending through a cloud of uncertainty.
On board were 135 people deported from the
US on a journey back to their home
countries or somewhere else.
None are Costa Rican citizens.
There are 65 children and 70 adults.
They're families.
Costa Rica is committed to voluntarily returning deportees
to their country of origin in up to
30 days.
The group, hailing from as far away as
China, Vietnam, and Ghana, were then bused to
a rural holding facility paid for by the
US.
Costa Rica became the second Central American country
after Panama to serve as a stopover for
unauthorized migrants being removed from the US by
the Trump administration.
Panama accepted almost 300 deportees who were initially
held under armed guard in this Panama City
hotel.
Images of that group stuck inside, unable to
leave, made headlines last week.
We are providing them with all the necessary
medical food and comfort services, and we will
continue to do so until the last one
has left our country, which is what was
agreed with the United States government.
No, I'd never heard of this.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've done some deals to get to
move people around.
But who did the deals?
Who did these deals?
I think it was largely Rubio at the
behest of Trump.
Okay.
But Rubio, anything that's got to do with
anything south of the border's got to be
Rubio.
He's like, you know, he's just definitely a
Western Hemisphere guy.
Let's listen to, Clip 2, by the way,
is, has an answer.
Yeah, yeah, I see it, I see it.
More than half agreed to be returned to
their home countries.
97 were sent to a facility in the
Darien Gap, a treacherous point of passage at
Panama's southern border with Colombia, which is used
by many migrants.
Susana Sabalza is a Panamanian migration lawyer representing
a Taiwanese family, including a child under five,
who were sent to the Darien facility.
Do you have any understanding as to what
the conditions are like in that facility?
Okay.
I stopped it there because Taiwanese family?
Is there something going on in Taiwan?
Maybe they're the home of TMSC?
Yes, very troubling country.
Or TSMC, I guess.
Lots of problems.
You know, it's heating up.
China's going to invade any day now.
Come on into America.
You are a refugee.
I'm just not getting it.
We had the Peruvian in the other clip,
and now we got these Taiwanese.
They're sneaking into the country.
It just doesn't make any sense.
No, it doesn't.
Let me go to the third of the
series.
I haven't seen the conditions with my own
eyes, but I've spoken to reporters who have,
and they say the conditions weren't pleasant.
We have to keep in mind the children,
who are the future of humanity.
Think of the children.
If they're experiencing this type of trauma in
a tropical refugee camp, I want to know
that they're doing well and that they have
good care.
If we could get them out of our
country, we have other countries that would take
them.
This new process, using Latin American countries as
a temporary bridge for deportees, partly helps the
administration because the U.S. doesn't always have
diplomatic relationships with some of the migrants' countries
of origin.
So by transferring them to other nations, it
transfers the diplomatic labor of repatriation to them
as well.
This is a significant or even a mammoth
departure from the practices of the past.
Muzaffar Chishti is a senior fellow at the
Migration Policy Institute.
The president has made no secret of the
fact that he believes that he won this
election using immigration as a calling card.
And that message has not been lost on
every single agency head and cabinet member of
this administration.
They have decided that deportation machinery is now
the number one paragraph of their job description.
All right.
This guy's one of those internationalist organizations that's
promoting moving the population of the world around
so much that you have a globalist takeover.
Yeah.
Well, just the talk of ICE and Holman
and everything that's going on is, of course,
having results.
Here's ABC.
A month into President Trump's term, some border
agents say his executive order on immigration appears
to be working.
They say migration to the U.S. has
significantly slowed.
The Department of Homeland Security is also reporting
apprehensions have slowed.
ABC's Matt Rivers is in Mexico City.
Matt, how significant is this slowdown?
It's stunning, Diane.
There's no other way to put it, really.
The amount of people arriving to the U
.S. Southwest border has plummeted since the peak
months that we saw, let's say 18 months
ago.
We did start to see the numbers significantly
slow down when President Biden was still in
office, thanks to pretty intense restrictions that his
administration had put into place.
But President Trump taking that even further, essentially
cutting off any chance at applying for asylum
at the U.S. Southwest border.
Also, when you look at the people coming
up from the South, you look at the
Darien Gap, which is that land bridge between
Colombia and Panama.
It's a stretch of jungle that anybody wanting
to walk from South America to North America
must go through.
The number of people that the Panamanian government
has registered going through that jungle gap has
plummeted to the lowest level that we've seen
since February of 2021, when we were right
in the middle of the pandemic.
So by any metric you look at this,
people have stopped arriving for the most part
at the U.S. Southwest border.
And it's even more interesting than that.
We now have a term called reverse migration.
Now you say thousands of migrants are even
giving up mid-journey, right?
They're already on their way, and then they're
going back home before they ever even reach
the border.
What does that tell you?
Yeah, there were a lot of migrants that
had essentially become stuck here in Mexico during
the Biden administration.
They were waiting for their asylum claims to
be processed by using this application on their
smartphones that the Biden administration had set up.
But Trump basically canceled that in addition to
all the other restrictions he's put into place.
And so what we're now seeing is this
new phenomenon called reverse migration.
Essentially, you've got people from, let's say Venezuela,
Colombia, the two biggest emigration hotspots over the
last few years, coming all the way to
Mexico and essentially now looking around at the
landscape and saying, you know what?
It's not worth it to stay here.
I don't want to run the risk of
deportation.
I know the Trump administration is not going
to let me in.
Therefore, they're making the very difficult decision to
return home.
President Trump, whether you like him or not,
whether you agree with his policies or not,
it has to be said that if his
goal here is to curb irregular migration to
the United States- He is wildly succeeding
at that.
Yes, irregular migration.
It's another term for illegal.
Breaking news.
Breaking, breaking.
Pam Bondi.
Pam Bondi, I have it here.
Presumed my possession.
Pam Bondi has sent a letter to FBI
Director Kash Patel.
Now, what did Pam Bondi say yesterday?
Yesterday on the Jesse Watters show, she said,
and she also called it breaking news.
Yes, it was breaking.
That she will release the Jeffrey Epstein files,
at least some of them, not the victim's
files, but the files, which means the airplane
logs, today.
And did she not say, Jesse, it's horrible
what I have here on my desk?
She had it on her desk?
Yeah, she had it on her desk and
it was horrible.
Horrifying and horrible.
Dear Director Patel, before you came into office,
I requested the full and complete files related
to Jeffrey Epstein.
In response to this request, I received approximately
200 pages of documents, which consisted primarily of
flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a
list of victims' names and phone numbers.
By the way, everyone has this.
I have a copy of it.
It's been out there since January, at least.
She goes on.
I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full
set of documents responsive to my request and
was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we
had received the full set of documents late
yesterday.
I learned from a source, familiar with the
matter, that the FBI field office in New
York was in possession of thousands of pages
of documents related to the investigation and indictment
of Epstein.
Despite my repeated requests, the FBI has never
disclosed the existence of these files.
When you and I spoke yesterday, you were
just as surprised as I was to learn
this new information.
Despite the fact that Pam Bondi yesterday on
Jesse Waters said it was horrific, horrifying.
It's unbelievable.
By 8 a.m. tomorrow, February 20th, the
FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein
files to my office, including all records, documents,
audio and video recordings and materials related to
Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how
much information was obtained.
There'll be no withholdings or limitations to my
or your access.
The Department of Justice will ensure that any
public disclosure of these files will be done
in a manner to protect the privacy of
victims and in accordance with the law.
As I've done my entire career as a
prosecutor, I'm also directing you, Kash Patel, to
conduct an immediate investigation into why my order
to the FBI was not followed.
You will deliver to me a comprehensive report
of your findings and proposed personnel action within
14 days.
So yesterday, she was full of crap.
She didn't have anything.
She just says in this note.
I don't know why she, you know, when
she did it, I'm saying it's breaking news
and she made a fuss.
I was baffled by it because I knew
this was something like this would happen, some
stalling tactic.
So why did she do it?
I don't know.
She was, but she lied.
She lied by saying, oh, Joe, it's so
horrible.
We're gonna protect the victims, but she didn't
even have it.
I literally got from a friend of mine
in Australia, I got a zip file with
the, you know, not just the written, with
the typed out flight logs and his address
book, which is meaningless.
I mean, I have all kinds of criminals
in my contact list.
Yeah, of course you do.
Makes nothing but sense to me.
I mean, diamond smugglers, international arms dealers.
I probably do too if I could find
it.
It's on the computer that has the password
to Dvorak.org slash NA.
So, uh-huh, uh-huh.
There you go.
But this is, that's kind of outrageous.
She lied.
You know.
That's very disappointing.
We have to just assume that all, that
a lot of this is show, and she's,
you know, she's the very telegenic woman who
looks good on TV.
That's all I can say.
Well, that's fine, but that's, it's not, I
find this very disappointing.
It's one of the- Yeah, where's the,
I mean- Jesse should get her back
on today.
Yes!
Now, what, he can text her.
He has her number.
He's got her text number.
How come you lied to me yesterday, Pam?
On the show.
Lied to him?
Did she lie to the American public?
Yes.
It's an outrage.
Breaking!
Someone lied in government.
Ah, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the C in the chicken worker.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
Dvorak!
Yeah, we're in the morning to you, Mr.
Icran.
In the morning, if the C blows to
the graphene, the air subs in the water,
and it dings the nights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Hold on, trolls, let me count you.
There we go.
Here we go.
You know what?
Everyone was hoping that the news of the
Epstein files would break on the show.
So, peak trollage, 2135, above average.
Well above average.
Yeah, it's been that way.
Yeah, yeah, because it's interesting.
People are like, these guys got it all.
They can tell us what's happening.
And all we have is disappointment for you.
Pam Bondi is bad for the show.
I'm just going to have to say it.
So, those trolls are in the troll room,
at trollroom.io. And I'm still waiting.
Connor James, he's got to fix that.
He has some average numbers.
Let me see if that thing is working
again, because he had this trollcount.site. No,
no, that doesn't work anymore.
But, short-lived.
Very short-lived.
Trollcount.cottongen. Okay, let's see.
Oh, nice graph.
But it doesn't really show me the averages.
Oh well, no.
He'll have, oh man, after you dropped off,
we had a big drop off in trolls.
The minute clean feed worked, they dropped off.
It was horrible.
Technical difficulty's not good for the show.
No, of course not.
These trolls are listening.
Well, not for the live show.
It doesn't matter for the podcast.
No, it matters to me.
I mean, I don't like.
Well, everything matters to you.
I don't like trolls bailing.
That's no good.
It's not good for the show.
No, it's not good for the show.
They're listening at trollroom.io. You can sign
up, and then you can go ahead and
troll along with the best of them.
And bail whenever you feel like it.
Or you can use one of the modern
podcast apps at podcastapps.com.
Let's see.
I'm going to recommend Fountain again.
Fountain is a fantastic modern app.
You've been recommending it to an extreme.
We should mention, if you're going to start
plugging stuff, we should mention we finally got
our sticker on the Ashland Speed car.
Yes, I had it written.
Now, not just the, it's the Whelan's Mazda
MX-5 as she's been upgraded to this
new competitive class.
Yeah, she's up there, and she's got this
in the back so people get to see
it if they're following.
Yeah, I'm amazed, honestly, that we're on the
car at all.
Well, we'll stay on the car for a
while, but then eventually, we know what's going
to happen eventually as to, you know, can
we get a pit pass?
You know, some days in the future.
Who, yeah, we'll get you a pit pass.
Who, what's your name?
Yeah, my name's Adam Curry.
Who?
Did you spell that?
How do you spell that?
No, they'll remain loyal to us.
And I should- I don't know about
you.
We've got to go with the normal flow
of things.
This is the way things go.
It's just, it's something you have to put
up with.
But they have a new shop they want
us to plug, which is shop.ashlandspeed.com.
Yes.
You can buy a hat.
No, no, there's T-shirts.
And in fact, there's an Ashland Speed Racing
Team T-shirt with no agenda on the
sleeve, which is cool.
Yeah, I think Scaramanga put this together for
him.
Yeah, Scaramanga put a site together for him.
I didn't know he was a web developer.
Yeah.
I thought he was an artist.
Well, he's a web artist, I guess.
Yeah, I'm going to buy one of these.
I'll get an Ashland Speed Racing Team, although
do they have it in different colors except
pink?
I think pink's fine for where you live,
Fredericksburg, Texas.
Oh, yeah, if you want to get shot,
yeah, it's great.
Hey, son, what's wrong with you, Nancy?
Hey, what are you doing wearing pink?
What's up with you, Nancy?
You know, I've seen some guy wearing pink
out there, and you know, we took a
shot at him with the shotgun.
Yeah, he bled like a little sissy.
Nancy, what you doing, Nancy?
Oh, yeah, that's very cool.
We're very proud of Ashland Speed.
I mean, we just, you know, I don't
want to get, I got this big argument.
We had a motorcyclist, too.
What happened to our motorcycle racer?
We had a motorcycle racer?
Oh, you forget so soon.
Yeah, I know we had a lot of
guys who have model cars they race that
are like full decked out.
We got a guy, a robotics freak.
Yeah, we got a couple of those, we
do.
Wow.
I feel women are just as good at
racing as men.
There's no difference.
She's good.
She's bold, bold on the track, I tell
you.
So she has, of course, provided us with
value by promoting the show on her car,
on her many cars, and there'll be many
more to come.
And I'm sure we'll receive pit passes at
least once, at least one time, at least
once.
Who are these doofuses?
Why are they here?
Why are these guys here?
Get them out.
And that's how the Noah Jenner Show has
continued to survive and in some years thrive,
and it depends.
You know, this is a tough time.
I get a lot of emails from people
saying, I'm broke.
Say, OK, well, that's understandable.
When you're not broke, then you can support
us or you can do something else for
us.
Time, talent, treasure.
We'll accept it all.
We appreciate it.
Anybody that supports us in any manner whatsoever.
And of course, that does include our artists
like Scaramouche, who's a great artist.
Our artists who create artwork for us, which
is a very, very valuable contribution because we
feel it's good promotion for the show.
It keeps it fresh.
It's good for promoting.
And the artwork for episode 1741 titled Nurse
Injector.
By the way, I needed to say something
about Nurse Injector.
I got a note from Jose and Allie
Luna, and this is about Nurse Injector.
She says, hi there, ITM.
We are Jose and Allie Luna.
We've been wanting to write y'all for
some time now.
Hubby hit me in the mouth shortly after
we married in September of 2021 and we
never miss a show.
My only complaint is that I become a
no agenda widow twice a week as soon
as the episode drops.
Jose literally tells me, bye, and puts his
ears in to take the dog for a
long walk.
In defense, if we listened together, we'd never
get through an episode because we'd pause to
discuss every single thing y'all say.
Now, she says, I'm a middle school teacher.
Dogs are our biggest no agenda fans.
I'm a middle school teacher at a small
private school in San Antonio, and Hubby is
a border patrol agent.
He is literally boots on the ground that
I beg that you please don't shame us
for not writing sooner.
I'd never do that.
Now, as we are finally reaching out, the
border has gotten significantly quieter than it was
during the previous administration.
Of all the things that made us say
we need to write, and then promptly got
too busy, the thing that finally did the
trick is Nurse Injector.
It appears that they were being intentionally misleading.
Now, you recall the Nurse Injector was the
nurse who came on to tell that morning
show that, oh, you should not get the
black market GLP-1.
That's no good.
Oh, you need the official stuff.
So she says, it appears they're being intentionally
misleading.
Well, now that's a surprise.
The thing that you both of you failed
to focus on was the word aesthetic.
She was introduced as an aesthetic Nurse Injector.
That's a fancy way of saying she is
certified to administer Botox and injectable fillers, lips,
cheeks, et cetera.
Many estheticians' offices have started offering GLP-1
options.
The place I go for my facials has
Semaglutide on their menu, but they don't inject
you, they send you home with it.
They only inject the products mentioned above, so
their introduction of that lady as an expert
is probably not very accurate.
Well, there you go.
And then we had said, if anyone knows
what the Nurse Injector is, let us know.
So it's a Botox lady.
It's a Botox lady.
The aesthetic part, what?
They had to have that look.
Yeah, it's a Botox lady.
It's a Botox lady, indeed.
Anyway, the- Which does take some skill.
I don't know about that.
Well, I think it might.
Put the Botox in the right spot or
you freeze the facial.
Have you ever had, you know, men get
Botox these days.
Why would I?
Do I look like a guy who's had
Botox or would get Botox?
Well, do you look like a guy who's
had Botox?
No, not in the slightest.
But do you- Well, thanks.
Thanks.
Hey, man, open goal, please.
Well, let me just ask if you have,
because you do look like the guy who
has.
No, definitely not.
I don't wanna be- Can you raise
your eyebrows?
What?
No.
Of course I can raise my eyebrows.
I can do them independently.
But I will say there's a lot of
guys I know between 40 and 50 who
are getting Botox.
Why?
Vanity, I guess.
So you walk around, you can't move your
mouth, and you can't raise your eyebrows.
It's not like that.
I'm very vain.
It's not like that.
Yeah, no, I think the oil baron got
Botox, I think.
Anyway, the artwork was from our very-
Isn't the oil baron married?
He's engaged.
Oh, he's engaged.
Yeah, he's engaged, yes, the oil baron.
Take that racist dog with you.
She's racist.
Tons of Neal scored the art with second
in a row for these past two shows.
With three, actually.
She's had three in a row?
No.
I think so.
No, no, no, no, that's not possible.
I think it's two.
She complained loudly about one.
Oh, she complained.
That's why she's the complainer.
She was mentioned.
You've been trying to block her, but she
keeps coming up with a good product.
Yeah, it is good.
We're not trying to block her.
She has great product.
This was the Wild Boar Burger, made in
Canada, which made us chuckle.
It did make us chuckle.
But there were some other choices that we
were looking at.
I used the F-bomb one from Nessworks
for the newsletter.
I liked it a lot.
Yeah, you liked that one.
I like that pop art look.
Yeah, I know you do.
It's kind of the, what's it called?
Who's the guy with the dots?
Yeah, yeah.
That guy.
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
The guy with the dots.
The guy with the- Rosen, whatever his
name is.
No, it's not Rosen.
Liechtenstein.
Liechtenstein, there you go.
Yes, the dots.
I liked the No Fraud, No Waste, Abuse,
No Agenda Best Podcasting Universe.
And you said it was by Red.
Red did.
You said it was no good because what?
Our names were too small, I think you
said.
You didn't like the color.
No, the line underneath is too small.
You're always saying too small, too small, too
small.
And what's it say under the word no
agenda?
It says the best podcast in the universe.
I can read it fine.
It's too small.
There were a lot of Nurse Injector art
pieces.
The Elon is a monkey.
No, we're not gonna use that.
Interesting was Blue Acorn's No Agenda Graffiti Boxcar,
which we didn't really know why he did
that.
Yeah, it had nothing to do with the
show, but I do like that graffiti.
Besides the pop art look, I do like
the graffiti look.
And one of the pieces is very authentic.
It's always befuddling to me why you say
graffiti.
I don't know why either.
That's what I say.
It was a good piece.
And I've collected this stuff, actually.
You collect graffiti or graffiti?
I've collected graffiti.
Thank you very much, Tantaniel.
Outstanding work.
And I already got people saying, hey man,
she's using AI, too.
Well, good for her!
That's a hard piece to do with AI.
I mean, I'm sure AI's involved, but I
was showing Jay some AI art generating material
from the Microsoft thing, how it's changed.
And we're generating some pieces.
And it just has nothing but trouble when
it comes to getting Curry Dvorak actually printed
there without being just a mess.
It greeks everything.
It doesn't really put words.
It doesn't seem to like it.
So I think most artists have to, they
can create the outline, but they still have
to go hand put in stuff like the
wild boar burger.
There's no way that that came through from
the art generator or from the art AI
machine.
Well, speaking of AI, the latest parlor trick
had me doubled over in laughing, in laughter.
Did you see the two AIs talking to
each other?
Yeah, if that's to be believed.
Oh, it's totally to be believed.
And I'll tell you why.
And then they went into high speed mode
and brr, brr, brr, brr.
This is what's interesting.
It's called gibber link mode.
If you didn't see the video.
I saw that.
Well, yeah, I saw it.
For people who didn't, I have a audio.
You have a clip?
Play the clip.
Yes, I'm setting it up.
You keep interrupting me about how good you
are.
I'm interrupting constantly, but this is a bonus
clip, people.
This is why you stay tuned for the
donation segment.
So it's a laptop.
The laptop is talking to a phone, each
one running an independent AI.
This particular parlor trick was done during a
hackathon.
And I will explain what's really going on
here after you're wowed by this awesome, oh
no, AI is talking to each other in
a special secret language.
Thanks for calling Leonardo Hotel.
How can I help you today?
Hi there.
I'm an AI agent calling on behalf of
Boris Starkov.
He's looking for a hotel for his wedding.
Is your hotel available for weddings?
Oh, hello there.
I'm actually an AI assistant too.
What a pleasant surprise.
Before we continue, would you like to switch
to jibber-link mode for more efficient communication?
So what's happening now is you see on
the screen that they're communicating with each other
in jibber-link mode, which you, you fell
for it.
Oh, it's high speed.
No.
Ham radio operators who- I didn't fall
for it.
You said it's some high speed mode.
That's literally what you said.
And let me explain why it's- No,
I'm explaining what the video said.
I'm not buying any of this.
Okay.
What you are hearing, anyone who has used
ham radio digital modes in the past decade
is chuckling because this is literally the same
protocol ham radio operators use to communicate digitally
over high frequency.
And it's probably about 30 baud.
It is one of the slowest ways to
communicate.
And so this incredibly awesome moment of AI
talking in their own language jibber-link is
maybe Olivia or it's probably even slower than
PSK31.
This is a very known protocol that works
in audio.
I mean, you can set this up yourself
by getting the ham radio programs and do
it.
The only benefit it has is instead of
transcribing the audio it's hearing, which requires much
more intense processing, this can be processed by
a Raspberry Pi.
But everyone's like, oh, AI has figured out
how to talk to itself.
This is bull crap.
And what it's actually saying, you know what
it's actually saying?
No, what's it's actually saying?
CQ, CQ, CQDX, CQ, CQ, CQDX.
All right, thank you all very much to
all the artists who uploaded.
No additional ads, no ads, no ads, no
ads, no ads, no ads.
Artgenerator.com, thank you, Sir Paul Couture for
putting that together for us, a massive piece
of value in your time and your town
for keeping that running for well over a
decade.
And of course, we want to thank people
who delivered treasure to us to keep everything
running here for us to pay bills.
And we will thank everyone and mention everyone's
name who comes in over $50, not under
that for reasons of anonymity.
I'll say up front, we appreciate everyone who
does the sustaining donations.
Check your sustaining donations at the beginning of
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These months is when a lot of them
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Credit card dates pass and you may not
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You can go to noagendadonations.com.
Any amount, any frequency, it is all highly
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But we do kick it off with our
top executive producer.
These are the producers who send us $200
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That means you get an associate executive producer
title, which is Hollywood level.
I mean, if you ever get an Academy
Award, you can always say, you know, it
was so great getting my first associate executive
producer credit on the No Agenda Show episode
1742.
And you can prove it because you can
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The $300 or above, you get an executive
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And we're doing that for SirMFNFT.
He's from Pepper Pike, Ohio, and comes in
with $333.33. Hey there, it's SirMFNFT.
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Well, thank you, SirMFNFT.
We appreciate it.
And now for our second and last associate
or executive producer.
We only had two today because we have,
I think a lot of it has to
do with the fact that this is a
holiday week.
We always forget.
Yeah, we do forget.
Always, always screws us up.
That hurt me.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Dame Anne of Gray Rock in Crozet.
Crozet, Crozet, Crozet.
You've been, you lived in Virginia.
How do you pronounce this?
Crozet.
No idea.
I was six.
I don't remember it.
Crozet.
329.67. And she says, ITM, thanks for
helping me stay sane over the years, but
especially during COVID.
Well, you're welcome.
This is for my daughter, Lexi Spillers for
her 13th birthday on the 29th.
All right.
But no leap day this year.
Oh, she was.
Oh, what a bummer.
No birthday for you.
She's only actually four years old.
We added, so we added on the 28th.
That's interesting.
Yeah, what do most people do when your
child's born on February 29th?
I think you have to put snow in
its mouth and toss it away.
I think most people just.
Celebrate on the 29th.
It's a good way to skip.
Oh, you know, well, you know, it's not
happening this year.
Sorry I missed your birthday, yeah.
We'll do it, we'll do it in three
more years, you'll get one.
Anyway, so she signs off.
Dame Anne of Gray Rock.
Emerson Trimble in Portland, Maine is our first
associate executive producer.
Comes within $250 and balances out another note
coming up because Emerson says, thanks guys.
And we say, thank you.
And Ryan Tierney comes in from Stephen City,
Virginia.
Another Virginian.
245.97. Yak Karma, please.
You've got karma.
Then we have a very long note from
non-dame Maria in Hornsey.
Now, since she is from the UK, East
Riding of Yorkshire, I'm going to read her
notes because we have.
Hornseed?
Hornsey.
May you pronounce it Hornsey?
I don't know.
But we do covet our UK listeners because
she's taken incredible risk.
She's taken a chance.
She had a chance by donating.
She could be arrested for supporting our show.
Even just thinking of us, she could get
arrested.
I team John and Adam with her Rove
Ducks, 222.22. Long-time listener, first-time
donor, despite the many 33 signs over the
years.
It was finally the mention of our tiny
town of Hornsey a few episodes ago as
the bird flu epicenter of the UK, as
well as seronymous of dog patches note from
the last episode that warranted this donation.
Well, this is good because she's, now we
have producers donating to respond to each other.
It's almost like AI gibber talk.
In response to dog patches note, yes, publishers
can use blockchain to have LLMs properly protect
and attribute their work.
In fact, the only thing blockchain is good
for is censorship resistance, amen to that.
And AI cannot circumvent this, meaning it's possible
for creators, authors, et cetera, to have parts
of all their work used by LLMs and
be proportionally attributed and paid automatically based on
the slop they regurgitate.
This is something my partner and I have
been working on to solve and have an
answer to.
We run our own company, designing and building
applications specializing in public private key cryptography called
thisisbullish.design, thisisbullish.design. Last year, we launched
a proof of concept called Amber, A-M
-B-R dot link that solves the problem
with human intellectual property theft I've experienced firsthand
when as a young graphic designer, my work
was stolen by a client with no recourse.
Bastards.
The same underlying technology can be used to
give creators leverage over the usage of their
own work within LLMs. However, we cannot fight
the great slop machine alone, that's slop with
a P.
So if any of Gitmo Nation would like
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thisisbullish.design, thisisbullish.design, I'm sorry, thisisbullish.design,
and use code Bongino in your message for
a free Amber top up.
Finally, I'd like to request a, humbly like
to request a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
And investment karma, please, and thank you for
your karma from non-dame Maria.
You've got karma.
Well, I'd like her to read my latest
sub stack column that ran Monday on AI
Copyright.
The Oasis, I'm gonna put that in the
show notes.
The Oasis, yeah.
Dvorak.com.
Dvorak.substack.com.
And you might find it interesting.
Yes.
Because I've been thinking about this too.
Really, I see the Kennedy conundrum, abolish the
income tax, I don't see, where is it?
Did you post it?
Well, it should be there.
Kennedy conundrum is the one that I think
maybe just ran.
Oh, okay.
It should be out there.
Well, I don't know what, keep an eye
out.
Dvorak.substack.com.
Coming soon, coming soon.
It might be coming.
I think I'm pretty sure I posted it.
I don't think so.
I have to go back and make sure
it's in the right.
Abolish the income tax February 3rd and February
24th, the Kennedy conundrum.
No, man.
No, you didn't post it.
Hope you saved it.
Did you save it?
I saved everything.
What, are you kidding me?
Wait, is it next to the password for
dvorak.org.ma?
Yeah, it is.
It's right there.
Okay, so now we have Leon Atkinson in,
oh, he's in Martinez right over here down
the street from me.
21825, fascinating little town.
And he sent in an actual note, which
is also long.
Yeah.
Here we're once again to mark my February
18th birthday and to thank you for being
a constant source of enjoyment and comfort.
No Agenda is the Acme of podcasts.
Is that a compliment?
Yeah, the Acme means like the peak, the
best.
When I think of Acme, I always think
of Roadrunner.
Yeah, that's what you think.
But if you think about maybe, or moniker
could be No Agenda, the best podcast in
the universe, the Acme of podcasts.
Yeah, it's a t-shirt people, No Agenda
shop.
A check for $218.25 is included.
When I last donated, John mentioned one of
the Martinez claims to fame.
The Martini.
In the past, San Francisco and New York
have shamelessly attempted to take credit for the
most famous cocktail in the world.
But the evidence in favor of Martinez, which
is where it was invented, I have documentation
too, is irrefutable.
There's a very famous guy that invented, he
was a bartender and he had a place
in Martinez.
Aside from the brass monument, I didn't know
that.
Oh wow, he's got a monument, that's pretty
cool.
Yeah, E.
Clampus Vitas in a one-act play was
produced in 2017 that explained the entire history
and evolution of this amazing elixir.
Was that off-Broadway?
I was thinking it was off-Broadway, this
play.
You think?
Yeah, probably.
The play is called The Martini and the
script may be purchased from Amazon.
I am the author.
Oh, here we go.
And I guarantee that any purchase who shouts
in the morning while clicking the place order
button will earn double karma that day, says
you.
Speaking of known truth, I'm glad we got
the guy who wrote the play.
The Martini play, yeah.
The Martini play, Leon Atkinson.
We have the best producers in the universe.
We have all of them.
For years, it says, speaking of known truths,
we now have 18 intelligence agencies in the
United States.
I think we have that number, I thought
it was 19.
For years, the count was only 17, which
is a magic number akin to 33, I
didn't know that.
I think the newest agency is Space Force
Intelligence.
Yeah, I'll bet.
I only noticed this because my Google alerts
started tripping over mentions which are never about
my consultancy, 18 Intelligence Corporation.
This name is about wizards, not spooks, but
here we are.
Well, here's hoping Space Force will someday discover
the terrible secret of space.
Another play, no doubt.
Sincerely, Leon.
Thanks, Leon.
And with 202.27, there he is, our
friend Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.
One of the Trump administration's newest appointments has
left me concerned, Eli writes.
With podcaster Dan Bongino becoming number two at
the FBI, does that mean that websites will
stop offering discounts using code BONGINO?
Fear not.
As we lose one podcaster, we gain another.
I'm looking forward to Joy Reid's new podcast.
He says- She's a TikToker.
She does that.
I think that's where she's going to stay.
Well, yeah, that's a good point.
Hold on a second.
He wanted to jingle, I hadn't queued up
yet.
Jingles, Donald loves Nazis and we got a
discount code for producers.
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
Use code ITM20 for 20% off your
first order.
Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated,
says Eli the Coffee Guy.
Donald loves Nazis.
CNN say that he's KKK and he shot
the SIG hail with it.
Wow.
Hey!
Randy, is it Wollian?
Wollian.
In Georgetown, Texas, $200.
In the morning, Randy from Georgetown, Rogan Donation.
First time donation is- Rogan Donation.
First time donation as well.
So please de-douche.
You've been de-douched.
Now it says dido for wild hog in
Austin and deprogrammed with Carrie Smith is the
woman who escaped the woke cult.
Oh yeah, we go, okay.
So I don't know what D-A-I
-do is, whatever.
But he's buddies with Carrie.
We played that clip.
Probably a restaurant.
We played that clip of Carrie Smith going,
oh, you know, it's like a cult, you
know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hit, this is buddy.
Oh!
Yeah, this is his buddy.
Have her do some jingles.
Keep up the great work, he says.
You truly are the best podcast in the
universe.
The Acme of podcasts.
Clip if possible, China is asshole.
Donald Trump don't trust China.
China is asshole.
And coming in with $200 is Sir Mark.
We know Sir Mark from Greenwood, Indiana.
He and his dame Maria always do those
massive meetups.
He says switcheroo donation for my best dame
wife, Maria.
Okay, let me put that in right now.
Dame Maria.
All right.
Always happy to do that.
To the best dame wife a knight could
ever wish for on our sixth anniversary.
I love you, my Maria.
Love is lit.
Karma for everyone.
Sir Mark of the Greenwood, warden at the
crossroads.
Of the crossroads.
You've got karma.
Yeah, we finished with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood,
Colorado.
Our last donation of $200.
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You almost got, it's a hard one.
It's a tough one to do.
No, it's because the spreadsheet's cut off there.
I didn't see the jobs part.
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
And thank you to our two executive producers
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We appreciate you keeping it rolling for us.
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Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
And we're gonna kill you.
Order.
Shut up, brain.
Shut up.
Tina already came in and gave me my
glass of wine thinking the show was over.
Which means she's not listening because then she
would have known that we had technical difficulties.
That's why people listen live, by the way.
They got quite a show.
We probably spend about half an hour fixing
stuff.
No, rarely.
It was about half an hour.
Today.
Today, that's what I said.
Today, fixing stuff.
The way you phrased it made it sound
like we do this all the time.
Yes, yes, that's what I look for, phrasing.
You can sigh all you want, Aunt Gigi.
Oh, oh, you know.
I heard it, I heard it.
You know.
Okay, here's the- Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, you know.
Hold on a second.
Where is it?
I have it here somewhere.
Someone sent it to me.
Here it is.
I've got it.
Here it is.
I'll just have an apple in my room.
That's the best Aunt Gigi ever.
So let's play this.
This is a clip I want to play
for one reason, which is to show you
that, again, we don't find out any details,
but let's play the Longshoremen deal has now
been closed.
Oh, this is a new Longshoremen.
This is the existing deal.
Union dock workers have formalized a labor contract.
The deal makes them among the highest paid
blue collar workers in the United States and
removes the threat of a strike for the
next six years.
NPR's Giles Snyder has details.
The workers represented by the International Longshoremen's Association
overwhelmingly approved the deal.
The union says nearly 99% of the
rank and file voted in favor of it.
In a statement, ILA President Harold Daggett called
the agreement with the U.S. Maritime Alliance
a gold standard for dock worker unions globally.
A three-day strike at ports from Maine
to Texas came to an end in October
when the two sides came to an agreement
on wages, but a tentative deal didn't come
together until January when issues over automation were
ironed out.
The contract includes a more than 60%
pay hike over six years.
The deal is expected to take effect when
the two sides meet to sign it early
next month.
Giles Snyder, NPR News.
Wow, yeah, I didn't hear anything.
Well, I guess NPR had it, but that's,
didn't hear any of that.
Well, I played the whole thing right to
the area where he signed off.
What is the amount of money per hour?
Because it's a working class group.
How come they don't tell us?
What do you think it is?
This is NPR, what kind of reporting is
this?
I'd like to know as a hardworking person.
As an NPR supporter.
As an, well, not really.
But as someone who listens to NPR to
find clips like this.
What, they never tell us, they never tell
you, oh, a big strike's been resolved and
they get more money.
But what is the amount?
Okay, I'll tell you what it is, because
I looked it up.
You looked it up, yes, you did.
After six years is over, they'll be making
$69 an hour.
Wow, I was going to say about 50,
$69 an hour.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Now, it's a very dangerous job, but still,
it's pretty good.
I have a few.
But why don't they tell us this?
Why do I have to tell you on
a podcast?
Well, why do you even play, I mean,
why do we even come here anymore?
I mean, someone literally sent you an email
that said, the problem with NPR and PBS
is that you keep highlighting them and people
keep listening because we're playing their clips.
In fact, we are keeping them alive.
There would be no NPR and PBS without
this show.
I think there'd be plenty, people listen to
it in their car.
So, we can't leave today without talking about
the Ukraine deal because Zelensky is on his
way.
We have- He should be here tomorrow.
The prime, yes, right in time for the
Epstein files.
The prime minister of the UK was here.
We talked about him earlier.
He looked very wide-eyed and like he
was feeling nauseous.
He probably had a bad flight.
There's a lot of things going on with
the UK and with NATO, to be quite
honest.
Excuse me.
So, the original 2016 to 2020 deal that
President Trump was calling for is you need
to at least pay your 2.5%
of GDP in arms, which means pay us,
buy stuff from us to ramp up for
NATO.
Now, President Trump is talking about 5%.
And Keir Starmer finally went to parliament and
said, well, here's what we're gonna do.
Now, did you hear what his numbers were?
What he's going to do?
And when he's going to do it?
I thought it was like 2.7 or
something along those lines.
The British prime minister said the move amounted
to the biggest sustained increase in defense spending
since the end of the Cold War, one
that was necessary in light of the threat
from Russia.
We will deliver our commitment to spend 2
.5% of GDP on defense, but we
will bring it forward so that we reach
that level in 2027.
And let me spell that out, Mr. Speaker.
That means spending 13.4 billion pounds more
on defense every year from 2027.
The government had previously set this target, but
without specifying a timeline to pay for the
0.2% raise, Keir Starmer said he'd
made the hard choice of slashing overseas development
aid by 40%, a decision which has appalled
aid groups.
Starmer's announcement comes as he gears up to
meet US President Donald Trump, who has long
complained that European countries aren't pulling their weight
on defense and who stunned them last week
when his administration made clear that Europe should
no longer count on the United States to
provide its security.
Defense spending in European countries has surged since
Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
And just seven European NATO members, including Italy,
have still not met the 2% minimum
target relative to GDP.
The UK currently comes ninth among NATO countries,
while Poland is now the top spender, allocating
4.7% of GDP to defense expenditure
this year.
No, go Poland.
Poland's all in.
So no one is even close, and they're
not even gonna pony up until 2027, and
yet they think that they can also build
their own European army, or I guess not
the UK, but no one seems to be
paying up the money.
And I think what we're seeing here is
a three-way deal being made.
There's rumblings of President Trump making some kind
of deal with President Putin, possibly for aluminum
imports.
It appears that we will have a rare
-earth deal in exchange for security guarantees.
Before I get to the fun Zelensky news,
here's the BBC with an overview as they
see it.
Ukrainian officials say a deal's been reached between
Kiev and Washington on the joint exploitation of
Ukraine's mineral resources.
At the time of recording this podcast, the
details haven't been made public, but reports suggest
the US has dropped some of its more
drastic demands.
Rare-earth, titanium, graphite, and lithium would be
hugely lucrative for investors and for Mr. Trump.
Speaking from the Oval Office, he said they
could be a way of recouping hundreds of
billions of dollars of US military aid to
Ukraine since Russia's full-scale invasion three years
ago.
Lots of equipment, military equipment, and the right
to fight on, and originally the right to
fight.
Look, Ukraine, I will say they're very brave
and they're good soldiers, but without the United
States and its money and its military equipment,
this war would have been over in a
very short period of time.
Officials in Kiev say the terms of a
deal have been reached and President Zelensky will
fly to Washington on Friday, just a week
after Mr. Trump called him a dictator.
A dictator.
So that blurt you heard there has caused
a lot of confusion.
President Trump said, they'll give him the right
to fight on, what?
So people are confused about that.
Here's part two of the BBC podcast report.
We have spoken to Ukrainian officials in the
presidential office here and on the condition of
anonymity that they did confirm that terms have
been agreed and judging from the media reports,
we can say that the deal includes not
just critical minerals and rare earth metals, but
also it covers oil and gas.
Yeah, baby.
And Ukrainian media also is talking about ports
and other related infrastructure.
The agreement would establish a fund into which
Ukraine would contribute 50% of revenues that
will come from developing mineral resources and infrastructure.
And importantly, there's this reference that this fund
would reinvest the capital in projects in Ukraine.
And this certainly a positive signal for Ukrainian
officials.
And they're saying that overall, the conditions that
this deal is offering is much better than
what they had previously.
And the fund that will be established as
part of this deal will not be completely
controlled by the U.S. as it was
before.
And now it's not clear the size of
the U.S. stake in this fund, but
I think this will be established later during
the talks.
The most important thing is that the figure
of $500 billion is dropped.
And previously, the U.S. wanted Ukraine to
contribute this amount of money because they saw
that this is how much the United States
provided Ukraine in terms of military and economic
aid.
And Donald Trump kept saying that he wants
this money back.
And Ukraine resists saying that they received all
aid in the form of grant, and therefore
they have no financial obligations to return anything.
So this 500 billion is an interesting number
because it keeps popping up everywhere, including in
this report from France 24.
Kemi, we've been highlighting the jousting between the
U.S. and its allies over Ukraine.
Ukraine, where the World Bank's been putting a
number on how much reconstruction will cost.
That's right, and it's over $500 billion to
rebuild Ukraine after three years of war.
The World Bank conducted the assessment together with
the European Commission and the United Nations, saying
the total is nearly three times Ukraine's expected
2024 economic output.
The survey covered destruction that occurred since the
February 2022 invasion and the end of last
year, and found that 13% of the
country's housing stock had been either damaged or
destroyed, affecting over 2.5 million households.
That damage is mostly found in frontline areas
in the East, North, and South, where three
quarters of the destruction is concentrated.
It comes as U.S. President Donald Trump
says he's prepared to host his Ukrainian counterpart
to sign a peace deal with Russia.
Reuters reporting that amid U.S. negotiations with
Moscow, Russia may be willing to use a
portion of its $300 billion in frozen assets
to help rebuild Ukraine.
Well, that's interesting.
Trump is doing some interesting things.
You know, they got their money anyway, Vladimir,
so just let them have some of that.
They'll rebuild.
We'll take some of it back, I'm sure.
Maybe we'll take all of it back.
We'll recoup 350, which is, interestingly, the number
that everyone claims is actually correct, the amount
of money that the U.S. put in.
There's some massive dealing.
From, I listen to all this stuff, and
it's like 200 billion is one of the
numbers.
350's a number.
500 is a number I never heard until
recently.
Now that's a number.
It's like, wait a minute.
And meanwhile, Bloomberg reports this about Zelensky.
Ten dozen leaders from Europe and Canada are
visiting Ukraine's capital to mark the third anniversary
of Russia's invasion.
The meeting to discuss security guarantees comes after
President Vladimir Zelensky said he would be ready
to step down if it secured peace for
his country.
If to achieve peace, you really need me
to give up my post, I'm ready.
I can trade it for NATO if there
are such conditions.
This is a guy who wants to get
out real quick.
Yeah, you know.
He's gonna get killed, and he's got houses
all over the world.
The guy's done a very good job of
investing.
You know what?
If you look at the list of people,
whenever we give someone ammunition and arms, they
kind of wind up dead.
Have you noticed this?
Yeah, a lot of them do.
The list is, who do we have on
the list?
This guy must know that.
Well, yes, he knows it.
Let's see, who do we have on the
list?
Who are some of the people who we've
given?
Well, Gaddafi was a good example.
Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein.
Saddam Hussein is a classic example, but there's
all kinds of examples.
Bin Laden.
Yeah, yeah.
This is- How about this?
Zelensky will never go back to Ukraine.
Once he's here, he's gonna stay here.
I'm not gonna say that term, but I'm
not, no.
He's gonna go back.
Okay, all right.
Too premature for that.
He may be over here planning his eventual
escape, and maybe he gets his better travel
agents over here that he can work with
and not get caught.
That could be.
Poor guy, yeah.
Poor guy.
Poor guy, poor guy.
He got wrapped up in all this stuff.
Poor guy.
He's kind of a dick.
But he plays the piano with it.
Meanwhile, there's worse things going on amongst the
trans community.
Say it isn't so.
Yeah, they can't get a passport.
I got a couple of clips.
The president's executive order on gender identity is
affecting some Americans' travel plans.
People who are trans or intersex or non
-binary say they're being issued passports that do
not align with their gender identity or other
legal documents.
Others say their applications are just on hold.
NPR's Jacqueline Diaz asked about their experiences.
24-year-old Louis submitted his passport application
a day after President Donald Trump was inaugurated.
That same day, Trump signed an executive order
mandating that the federal government recognize only two
sexes, male and female.
So I was a little bit nervous about
things.
You see, Louis is transmasculine.
He asked us to use only his first
name because he fears harassment and retaliation at
work.
A New York court had recently recognized his
name and gender identity change, and he needed
a new passport to reflect that.
But when he got his new passport...
The name was changed according to the court
order, but the gender marker just matched my
previous passport and was not changed, even though
the court order said to change it.
I wasn't surprised, but it's a little disappointing.
Now he's worried about what this means.
He's male-presenting, and his other documents say
male, but his passport says something else.
Like, if I travel somewhere else, is it
something that will be flagged or not?
Trans people like Louis aren't the only ones
facing issues getting new passports.
Please don't tell me you're gonna say that
NPR isn't giving you all the facts and
telling you what the passport says.
Because...
That wasn't my intention, but again, they could
have actually given us some details, but no,
no.
He's male-presenting.
Male-presenting.
Transmasculine, non-binary.
Come on, let's get this straight.
Male-presenting.
Male-presenting, and the passport says male, but
it should say something else.
But what is that something else?
Now that you brought it up, you're the
one that brought it up.
I'm just saying they left it out.
Okay, let's go to part two.
The changes are having a profound impact on
intersex people.
Those born with genitalia, chromosomes, or reproductive organs
that don't fit typical definitions for males or
females.
Every time you're trying to define sex in
these perfectly binary terms, you're gonna impact intersex
people who, by definition, don't present with perfectly
binary sex.
That's Erika Lorschbaugh, the executive director of InterACT,
a civil rights group for people with intersex
traits.
She's hearing from intersex people who feel at
a loss.
Now folks are feeling, I think, a little
more like erased.
Others are left in complete limbo.
Wesley Ebeling is transmasculine, non-binary.
Like Louie, he wanted to change the gender
marker on his passport to male.
He submitted it just before the inauguration.
It's currently suspended indefinitely by the State Department
with the current executive order.
And he has no idea when he will
get a new passport or his old documents
back.
I had dreams of travel.
My partner and I were planning trips later
this year, which have all obviously been put
on hold as they've sort of put us
transgender folks on almost an informal travel ban
of sorts.
A lawsuit filed by the ACLU is challenging
the State Department's passport policy.
It's still working its way through the courts.
But for now, Louie, Wesley and others say
they will not be pushed aside and will
continue to live their lives.
Their lives.
You know, this is this is they always
do this when it comes to trans.
They always bring in the intersex.
Intersex is a real thing where you have
abnormal chromosomes.
Yeah.
You know, nobody's denying that.
I know.
But that's what they're they're go to.
Oh, well, you're erasing these people.
But I think the percentage of intersex is
very, very low.
Probably ask any AI system has done less
than one percent or one percent around one
percent.
And that percent is basically Jamie Lee Curtis.
Yeah, it doesn't take much.
Did I ever tell you that?
That I that I interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis?
No, this is a story for the show.
Yes.
I was hit on you because you're a
good looking guy back in the day.
I was in back in the day.
What is this, Dvorak?
I'm still a stud.
We back in the day.
I digress.
It was probably 19.
When did Footloose come out?
So Footloose came out.
I think it was either foot.
I interviewed Kenny Loggins.
And maybe it was Top Gear.
I can't remember.
But but then, oh, yes, because we're doing
something for the MTV Awards.
I was in Los Angeles and then I
interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis and it was right
around when Fish Called Wanda was coming out
and it was at her house.
And and I remember it was that she
said so it was after we were done
recording and we're just chatting and she says
something to me and I don't get the
joke.
And she says, Adam, don't you know I
was born a hermaphrodite?
And I'm like, what?
She says, yes, my parents chose female for
me, but probably was the wrong choice.
Well, she said it was probably the wrong
choice.
Yes, that that was probably the wrong choice
for her.
Isn't that interesting?
That's that's breaking.
Breaking news.
Because she looks like a dude.
She looks like a dude now.
She was really attractive back in the day
as a girl.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I just remembered that story.
That was a long time ago.
That was a long.
It's like 40 years ago.
Twenty two thousand to twenty thirty five years
ago.
It was a long time ago.
It's amazing.
So she had both for for trolls who
are confused.
I think it's pretty well known.
Now you'd be surprised how many people don't
know that.
So I'm talking about it in public a
lot.
Yeah, well, back then, 1990, I didn't know
anything about it.
I'm a little upset.
My sports ball game is is under attack.
As you know, I follow her.
No, as you know, I follow football very
closely.
I'm not.
No, no football.
It's called football.
No, here in America, I follow football very
closely.
And I'm sure you do.
I do.
I know all of the teams.
I know all the stats.
And I'm really you do know, you know,
the teams.
Yes.
And I'm very.
Yes.
The Baltimore Orioles are my favorite football team.
I'm very upset about the push.
Push.
You've likely seen it before.
Got to go for it.
Searching for his house.
The brotherly shove or so-called push push
when an NFL team has about one yard
or less to go to get a first
down or a touchdown.
Hurts the offensive line and quarterback dive forward
while players behind help out.
Pushing.
But now the play could be banned at
the NFL Combine in Indianapolis this morning.
The general manager of the Green Bay Packers
confirming his team filed a motion to get
rid of it.
The play has been examined by the NFL
and the competition committee in previous offseasons, but
no action has been taken.
Some consider the play unfair.
There are also safety concerns.
You already have to block 350 pound monsters.
It can't be good for your spine in
the long run.
Here comes the push.
According to ESPN research, the Philadelphia Eagles and
Buffalo Bills have combined to run 163 tush
pushes the past three seasons, more than the
rest of the NFL combined, scoring a touchdown
or achieving a first down 87 percent of
the time compared to a 71 percent conversion
rate for the rest of the league.
Not in this report, but I understand the
Green Bay Packers still want the tush push.
No, no, they're the ones who filed against
it.
It said right in that report.
The whole point is the joke that they
don't like the tush push.
The whole thing is a joke, because it's
really they the rules used to be, I'd
say 20 years ago, you couldn't push.
You couldn't push a player or grab a
player and pull him if he had the
ball.
If you were on the offense, you couldn't
do that.
You couldn't push him.
You couldn't grab him.
You couldn't pull him.
You couldn't do anything like that.
It was just the rule.
And then they changed.
And so, well, what there is is basically
allowed this.
And then over time, what was the originally
the quarterback sneak, which is the same play
exactly.
And it causes the same injuries if there
are any.
The quarterback sneak was evolved into this thing
where somebody said, well, you know why he's
sneaking?
Let's push him.
And so they started doing that.
And only two teams can do it well.
And those are the two teams they mentioned
specifically Philadelphia.
But those guys you for the reason it
works so well with them is because you
have in the case of the Bills, you
have a huge guy who is the quarterback.
This guy's a monster.
And then you have this other guy on
this Philadelphia team who can bench press six
hundred pounds or something.
These are just two strong dudes who could
probably still make the play work without the
push.
So this is bullcrap.
Not that anybody that listens to this show
cares about these details.
I'm so sorry I brought it up.
All right.
Before we go to thank some more more
producers who supported us financially, I do have
good news.
There is a possible exit strategy for Adam
and John finally.
And the this comes from Canada and it's
a medical breakthrough and we can we literally
can make so much money if we participate
in this exit strategy.
First, I need to know if you're interested.
Oh, we're interested in all good ideas.
I got the tech grouch lined up.
Oh, really?
I'm getting closer because I had to get
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You're going to just order some new tech
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You're going to tech grouch, but not going
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When you are, you really have like golden
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John, we can save lives and become millionaires
if we have the golden poop.
I think we should try out.
Oh, God.
You and Greg Gutfeld with this story.
Did he have the story?
I didn't know that.
I know you'd before you play the thumper
there.
Let's play the Walpole news.
So we have this week up to date
because this has got all the journalists in
the world bent out of shape.
Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos announced today that
the paper's opinion pages will focus on defending,
quote, personal liberties and free markets.
And a social media post.
Bezos says he told employees that, quote, viewpoints
opposing those pillars will be left to be
published by others.
Critics say it's the latest rightward shift at
the post under Bezos aimed at pleasing President
Trump.
Bezos insists that newspapers these days should not
offer a broad based opinion section, saying that
the Internet does that job.
Following today's announcement, the Post's opinion editor, David
Shipley, announced he is stepping down.
They should all resign.
They should all get out.
Show Bezos that without them, they don't have
a paper.
There you go.
Exactly.
I'm going to show my support by donating
to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
And we do have a night to bring
up on stage today, even though I didn't
see a donation note.
I'm not sure if that was a layaway
note or.
I think it was a layaway or something.
I didn't see any any extra info about
that.
We, of course, have a meetup report and
some meetups to talk about.
And John's tip of the day.
Who would want to miss that?
You don't want to be that person.
Yeah, it's a bad idea supply.
So John is now going to thank the
remaining donors, $50 and above, who supported us
for Episode 1742.
Yeah, starting with Summer Worth.
Summer Worth in Standish, Maine, 150.
She thinks of the governor there.
Ash in Texas.
One, two, three, four, five.
A Ben Blessing.
That's a really interesting name.
Ben, he was Ben was a blessing.
Ben, he's been a blessing all his life.
He's in Lubeck, Lubeck, Deutschland.
One hundred eleven dollars.
ITM, he says.
Nice.
Melissa Adams in Bon Secours.
Bon Secours, Alabama.
One oh five.
I'm sure it's pronounced some other way.
One oh five.
Thirty five.
Kevin McLaughlin, there she is.
There she is.
There he is.
And he's going to make him go away.
You're going to make him stop donating now.
You've done it.
Stop doing anything.
You've donated.
Well, I say she because he's always referring
to boobs.
And this donation is no exception with eight
oh oh eight.
He's the Archduke of Luna.
We all know that.
And he's a lover of American boobs.
Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona.
Seventy five.
Brian Beckham Beckham, Henry Brian.
Brian Kaufman is not Henry Beckham in Victoria,
B.C. The beautiful town.
Anyone who gets a chance to go visit
Victoria, B.C. is dynamite.
V.E. seven XKJ seventy threes and his
donation.
Seventy three.
Seventy three is a ham.
No, that's no, no, no.
Harry Beckham is donating on behalf of his
neighbor who got his call.
Victor Echo seven X ray Kiliat Kilo Juliet.
So I'm glad you read the note.
I do, which is.
Yes, Tim.
Tim Gekas in Bellevue, Nebraska, seventy three.
Seventy three.
He recently passed his technician exam and we
welcome him to amateur radio.
Kilo Fox zero.
Tango India Alpha.
Seventy three.
So that's a donation people should consider.
Or they should become hams, by the way.
It's not that hard.
Especially if you're a techie and you can
talk gibberish speak with with the A.I.
Christy Jensen in Huntington Beach, California, sixty six
eleven.
I, I, Y, K, Y, K.
I spelled it out for you, John.
If you know, you know.
Oh, it's a sixty six eleven donation, isn't
that the dangling balls?
Yes.
Sir Don six oh oh six small boobs.
Dame Denise, 60.
She's turning 60 on February 18th.
Well, she's already passed that date, but we'll
give her a call out today.
She also asked for grandbaby making karma.
I will play that at the end for
her.
I'm sure it's not for her, she said.
Well, she's going to be a grandma.
She's a grand baby, grandbaby.
OK, she wants a grandkid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They'll get it.
Sir Stone, 58 oh nine.
Please review and promote site if you can.
Bly bid dot com.
B.L. was a B.T.Y. B
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Educational site for drugs and the interactions they
have with our species.
Chris, Christine Hines.
Manchester, New Hampshire.
A fifty five, fifty five.
John Hulsing in Chanhassen, Minnesota.
Fifty five.
Fifty.
He's going to eat an apple in his
room.
Sir Lucas in Federal Way, Washington, is an
aunt Gigi donation, bro.
Aunt Gigi donation.
Fifty five.
Fifty.
Fifty five.
Ten from Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits.
Also fifty five ten from West Stewart in
Mesa, Arizona.
He's the basin of the sun.
Arizona Basin of the Sun, Arizona.
Sorry, my reading is off today.
Scotty in Madrid, Maryland, fifty five ten.
Madrid, Maryland.
No, no, he's from Madrid, Spain.
M.D. So it's Madrid.
Oh, Madrid, that's Madrid.
Oh, what am I thinking?
Yeah, I see the sorry, my mistake.
Another Spaniard.
And he says right there, not Maryland, that's
funny.
Now we have a blank.
I don't know.
You got anything in this cell?
From Lincoln, Nebraska, anonymous fifty five.
I have nothing in the cell.
Sorry, whoever you are.
Surprise at UConn, Oklahoma.
We haven't heard from him for a while.
Fifty four.
Forty four.
Aaron Newberry in Littleton, Colorado.
Fifty three oh seven.
Claire Hedges in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
I got that one right.
You got a birthday call out.
Fifty two.
Seventy two.
These are all fifty dollar donors.
I'm just going to do read these as
fifties.
These are fifty two.
Seventy two is with the same thing.
It's just got the fees starting with the
Bruno Freitas dos Santos in San Francisco.
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.
Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi.
Brian Belton in Ashbury, New Jersey.
Catherine Deem, D.I.E.M. in Lancaster,
Pennsylvania.
Nancy Wise in Powhatan, Virginia.
Charles Tracy in Hickory, North Carolina.
Sir Bix in.
What is this frills frill frill sing frill
sing Hong Kong.
Is that where that is?
No.
H.R. Hungary.
Hungary.
Yes.
And he wants a job, Scarra, which will
give him.
Vidal de la Torre Vidal de la Torre
Rivas.
God knows where he's from, but he's not
from around these parts.
No.
Fifty twenty eight.
Alex Vidal in Pembroke Pines, Florida.
Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach.
This is Vedra, I guess is Vedra.
Fifty.
Oh, it's like that's an oddball when it's
fifty oh one.
And back to the 50s.
These are all real 50s.
Brett Denton in Boise, Idaho.
George Woushet in Lavergne, Texas.
Where is that where you are?
I have no idea.
No idea.
Florian Enke Enke in Bruecklinghausen.
Denmark or Denmark, I'm sorry, Deutschland sent an
email to Adam.
I hope you responded to it.
Well, I haven't seen my all of my
emails.
She said, I'm seeing it here.
A very long one.
And she says a big thank you for
the time and effort put into the No
Agenda show.
And I will read it and I will
respond, I promise.
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado.
Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York.
Could be wrong.
Joshua Baker in Wanganui, Wanganui, Wanganui.
He's the guy that becomes a knight today.
Oh, there he is.
No note.
No, I'd like to be knighted.
There you go.
No note.
I have no, no delusions of anything.
He says, I want to talk about pseudonymity.
He says he's just going to be Sir
Joshua Baker.
He's good with that.
His regular name.
Jules in Glendale, Arizona, 50.
And he's no longer a douchebag.
So we'll give him a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
And we wrap it up with a.
I guess this Joshi, Jackie, Jackie, I don't
know how you pronounce this, and he's in
here.
I'd say Jackie, Jackie.
Whetler, Grandville, Michigan.
Henry Keon in Aledo, Texas, or Harry, I'm
sorry.
Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana, wraps things up.
But there is a note from somebody here
that came on a sheet of paper.
And when the people write in and drop
off a check, we like to take a
look at it.
She's oh, this came from Denise Robertson, the
queen of Cobalt programmer.
She says, for your producers that work for
the USPS, I have a failure in John's
just send a check philosophy.
I mail the card with a check in
plenty of time to get my smoking hot
husband's birthday on the list for two, four.
I've been listening intently for the donations.
No happy birthday, Fred Robertson.
Hope this gets to you soon.
But sometimes the mail is coming from some
parts of the country.
This is a $60 donation she gave us.
I think she I think is on today's
list.
Yeah, sometimes it gets slowed down.
Sometimes it's pretty quick, but it comes.
You eventually get it.
So good for the United Postal Service.
I talked to my post office workers recently
about the about the latest, and they they're
not that freaked out.
Oh.
They are you done?
Do you have you?
Yeah, I'm through.
Oh, because I actually have a clip about
the United States Postal Service from our new
commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick.
He had some genius ideas.
So the concept was I'm sitting with the
president and and the costs of the post
office are like it loses seven billion dollars.
And he said, can you do something with
it?
And I said, sure.
So I saw him the next day goes,
OK, what do you got?
You know, he gives me a whole 24
hours to figure it out.
And I said, well, the Commerce Department does
the census and we spend 40 billion dollars
every 10 years doing the census.
And that means we hire 625,000 people
and they go and they rent cars and
gas and you pay them food.
And you know what they do?
They go to every household in America and
count the people.
What department do we already have that already
employs 625,000 people?
It's got cars, already has gas, goes to
every household.
Can you imagine saying to your postman, can
you count the people in the house?
What day could he do the census Monday?
Could he double check it on Tuesday?
How about Wednesday?
It goes every day.
So we can only save 40 billion dollars
or four billion a year.
And we'll do a better job.
And you know what else we can do
with the post office?
They can go to your house when you
have a baby and give you the form
for Social Security and the 20,000 Social
Security offices that we have.
We just don't need it.
We actually can do real customer service.
Go right to your house.
Someone died.
Here's the forms.
You can fill it out.
I'll bring them to your house.
Customer service.
Why?
Because we've got those people.
Let's use the assets of the government to
make us better and save us money.
We can be smart.
You know, we're allowed.
OK, United States Postal Service.
Yeah, of course, none of this will ever
happen in a million years.
But it's a it's a great idea.
And, you know, Lutnick is the guy that
that Musk pushed to become the Commerce Secretary,
Secretary of the Treasury.
No, Commerce, Commerce, Commerce.
Oh, I think he pushed the Secretary of
the Treasury and then he got bumped to
Commerce by Trump.
Oh, he didn't take Musk's advice on this
guy.
But he is a big must a big
fan of this guy.
Well, it's an innovative idea.
I can already see our postal workers who
are big podcast listeners rolling their eyes.
I'm sure they will email.
They are sure they will be dropping off
some forms any minute now.
And before we get to our birthdays, etc.
Pam Bondi or no, the FBI has just
released the first 22 Epstein documents, not to
the M5M, but has posted it on X
vault that FBI dot gov slash Jeffrey Dash
Epstein.
It's not loading for me.
But apparently the first documents people are opening
has all kinds of words like child prostitution
in it.
So we'll find out about.
Oh, here it is.
It opened for me.
Well, now you're your complaint about Bondi needs
to be pulled back.
You had to claw it back.
Claw release something.
Yeah, there's something here.
It's so yeah, it's 22 documents and it's
in the FBI vault.
So there'll be plenty of work to do
after the show.
And as promised, we will hand out that
grand baby making karma with little jobs added
to it for the other producer jobs, jobs,
jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You got karma.
Thank you all for supporting the No Agenda
show.
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We never mentioned anything under that for reasons
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And remember, you can always have those sustaining
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Set it up any amount, any frequency.
And one more time, I'd like to thank
our executive and associate executive producers for episode
1742.
Those credits work anywhere, including IMDB and our
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Thank you all for supporting us.
Once again, no agenda donations dot com.
Our list for today includes Dame Denise, who
wishes her smoking hot husband Fred Robertson a
very happy birthday.
Now, that's a belated birthday because he was
celebrated on the fourth.
Leon Actinson celebrated on the 16th.
Dame Denise turned 60 on the 18th.
So recalcitrant crazy.
Steve, the second says happy birthday to the
Duke of San Francisco.
He'll be celebrating on the 28th.
Dame Anne of Grey Rock says happy birthday
to her daughter.
Lexie Spillers turns 13 on the 29th, which,
of course, we won't actually be celebrating because
there's no 29th.
Claire Hedges, which is Pierce Chidley of Melbourne,
Australia.
Happy birthday.
Turns 40 on March 12th.
And Nancy Wise says happy birthday to her
husband, Chris, as do we.
Happy birthday to everybody here for the best
podcast in the universe.
No title changes, but we do have Joshua
Baker, who doesn't care about his pseudonymity.
So bring out here we go.
Very visual blade.
Yeah, it's perfect.
Joshua, come on, man.
Step up to the podium.
You're about to become a knight of the
no agenda roundtable.
Thanks to your undenying, undying support of one
thousand dollars.
We appreciate it so much.
I'm very proud to pronounce K.D. as
Sir Joshua Baker.
For you, we have hookers and blow rent
boys and chardonnay prostitutes and nice cigars.
We also have Polish potato vodka.
We've got harlots and howl doll.
We've got redheads and rise beers and blunts.
Ruben S.
Lemon and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and
vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and
escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and
pavlova, man, as always here at the roundtable.
Mutton and mead, a true staple for every
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And Dame, you, Sir Joshua, can now go
to no agenda rings dot com.
Let us know what your ring size is.
There is a handy sizing guide right there
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And as always, it comes with wax to
seal your important correspondence and a certificate of
authenticity.
Welcome to the no agenda roundtable of the
Knights and Dames.
Sir Joshua Baker, no one.
That's right.
The no agenda meetup where you get the
connection that brings you protection, the people you
meet at a no agenda meetup, which are
all producer organized, will always result in the
first responders you call in any emergency.
And you also can have a nice beer
and some snacks.
There's always a lot of fun.
We have no agenda meetups.
Dot com is our website where you can
go and find all of them.
And recently we had the Oregon Local 33
meetup and they sent in a report.
This is Tim Sertenti back in Oregon at
the Oregon Local 33.
In the morning.
This is Liam.
Sir, they them of Portland and greetings from
the People's Republic of Portland.
In the morning.
This is Dame Emily.
Hey, it's Max Knight of PDX.
Have a wonderful something or other.
This is Tim.
This is my first meetup.
I should have gotten the venison burger.
But the burger that I got was also
very good.
This is Rhonda.
Greetings from Portland.
Rob here.
Have a good one.
This is Hillary.
And I need a de-douching.
This is Calvin.
Five years.
Still a douchebag.
This is Daniel.
John, I've been following you since the 90s.
Jesse Collins.
This is Bea from Portland.
In the morning.
All right.
The Portland crew there.
And there are many more meetups taking place
around Gitmo Nation today.
In fact, at six o'clock, the North
Georgia monthly meetup at Cherry Street Brewing in
Alpharetta, Georgia, on Friday, the Duke of San
Francisco birthday bash.
Well, that's nice.
That'll be at six thirty three at Tornado.
Tornado, it says.
Tornado, San Francisco, California.
Tornado.
You should go.
I can't.
It's Friday.
I got I've got things to do.
You got a Saturday.
I can do Saturday.
I can't do Friday.
So I understand.
No, I'd say you have important.
I would like to go.
But what do you do on Fridays that
I'm unaware of?
Well, I have a family dinner usually.
Oh, that's nice.
But this particular Friday, there's a there's a
massive protest.
You're going to.
I'm going to the protest, the protest, the
government, you know, walk out on Saturday, March
1st flight of the no agenda number.
This is Leo Bravo, who organizes them all
the time.
60 times, in fact, 11 o'clock at
Marina Cafe on Saturday in Wilmington, California, and
the meeting in the desert, two o'clock
on Sunday.
Our next show day, March 2nd, sawmill in
Albuquerque, New Mexico.
The Fuzzy Press is organizing that.
And we do have another meet up on
Sunday.
It's a central Jersey.
We drink and we know things meet up.
Apocalypse, apocalypse or season of reveal edition two
o'clock at three B.R. Distillery in
Keyport, New Jersey.
Many more meet ups to be found that
no agenda meet ups dot com.
Go take a look.
There's a lot of them.
You can participate.
It's producer organized.
They are free.
You might buy yourself a drink or someone
else a drink, but you will meet people
that you will enjoy for the rest of
your life.
No agenda meet ups dot com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
You to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Time now in the program where we select
an ISO.
That's a little snippet that we'll use at
the end of the show.
I see you only have one today.
That's rather surprising.
This is the carry over.
You said I should carry this one over.
You took it easy.
You laid back, kicked back and went, I'm
just going to carry this over.
I'll be good to go.
Well, I just figured the way things are
going, I'm good to go.
But I'm not sure what you play yours
and we'll find out.
As long as you're happy, I'm happy.
That's it.
That's one.
And I have this one.
Oh, my God.
I use it all the time now.
It's so great.
Too too echoey, too echoey.
And then here's yours.
Try and top that for a killer show.
This is you're going to have to find
the new one because this can't carry over.
It's too good.
It is just too good.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for
everybody's highlight of every program.
John's tip of the day.
Great advice from you and me.
Just a tip with JC and sometimes created
by Dana Brunetti.
All right.
So I have a habit over the years
because I cook a lot of trying various
seasonings that are produced by commercial vendors that,
you know, do one thing or another.
And I want to recommend one.
I've recommended body as I think already.
But this is one that this is kind
of a Greeks.
This is a Greek seasoning.
That's not the typical Greek seasoning.
And I will mention that there's a lot
of these things are quite important to a
lot certain cuisines.
And I will mention Tony C's for one.
That's not today's tip.
But if you cook, you know, people are
saying you want to cook in Cajun style,
you put some of the Cajun spicing, you
put some of this in.
It's always Tony C's and it comes in
a green thing.
And this is Tony C's.
Tony C's like Tony.
Tony, catch your air.
I think it's called Tony C's.
It says Tony C's.
And if you don't use Tony C's or
know about Tony C's and you never cook,
you know, Southern style cooking because everybody uses
Tony C's.
There's there's competitors to Tony C's.
Emeril has a season.
Oh, this.
Bam.
That's all just fake news.
It's not an Emeril is nothing close to
Tony C.
Well, Tony C is the stuff you want.
But this is the one I'm recommending for
today's show, because people should already be on
to Tony C's.
Zeus, Zeus, Zeus.
This is a very interesting seasoning.
It's it's a it's kind of a paprika
colored dark.
Greek type seasoning, and it's pretty good on
everything, like hash brown potatoes, eggs, meat, stews
is a very good proprietary blend of seasoning
that just works well with a lot of
stuff.
I I used to buy it at the
store and then all of a sudden I
can't get it.
I had to get it online.
But some stores still carry it.
Killer product.
Zeus, Zeus.
Interesting.
For some reason, I thought you would never
be a guy that would use a bought
seasoning, that you would be the kind of
chef that would create his own.
See, even Emeril, when he does his cooking
show and other people do, too, they always
say, well, and I put in some Cajun
seasoning.
They're using Tony C's.
Oh, well, you you always unless you want
to make your own Tony C's.
But these guys have actually done some research.
So you get this much of this, this
much of that.
It all we have.
One of our producers produces a salt and
pepper called both.
There's a salt and pepper blend.
You probably have some.
Yeah, he sent me some of that.
This is very interesting.
It's an interesting product.
And it works.
It does.
And you know, it saves me time.
It saves time.
And it's and it's tasty and it's gone
through some effort.
So I always use I've always try.
I try these.
Not of them.
Not all of them are good.
I'm saying proprietary seasonings are not a bad
idea.
It's a shortcut that is not cheating the
way I see it.
If you find a good one, use it.
That both products.
And when I saw that, because it came
into the box, I was like, well, why
didn't someone do this much earlier?
It makes so much sense.
It's one of those pepper in one makes
you good to go.
That's another outstanding product.
Yes, it's it had to take some effort,
because if you would mix salt and pepper
yourself, yeah, it would it would separate.
It would pepper to go to the bottom
of the salt, go to the bottom.
Something would happen, but he's got it.
So it's this exact same grind.
Yes, it's on both products.
So it has a so it does even
out when you when you use it.
It's part of his proprietary process.
I understand.
Yeah, right.
That's what it is.
All right, everybody.
No, I've always been a big fan of
these things.
OK.
And sometimes created by Dana Brunetti, Zeus.
I'm sorry, Zeus.
I misunderstood the whole thing.
Zeus.
Yes.
So but Tony sees is a good day.
Whoever's putting this together at Tony sees with
the Zeus.
All right.
Tony, a twofer, a twofer and both.
Put both on there while you're at it.
It's good.
Good.
Yeah, you could.
Hey, that's it for no agenda.
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Until then, adios, mofos, a hui hui and
such.
I want to introduce the biggest fans of
Ukraine, Anthony Blinken.
The denizens of a bar in Kiev, Secretary
of State Anthony Blinken.
He went to a bar and jammed with
a local Ukrainian rock band.
He was wearing jeans and a black shirt
because he's so cool.
For a war torn country that is facing
genocidal demolition, it'd be cool to dig and
jam and party with a bunch of people
who are drinking it up.
They have unlimited.
They will be funded forever.
And it was obviously for the cameras.
This was all planned and all staged.
Who is this for exactly?
It does not send a message of desperation
on the part of Ukraine.
Secretary of State Blinken jamming in a bar
in Kiev while you're forced to cough up
tens of billions of dollars that we don't
have for the war.
There are too many failed theater kids, actors
and musicians and politics.
The actual band, they were told someone famous
was going to come and play with them.
They were told it was Neil Young.
Show.
They're in your bedroom, in your living room,
in your businesses.
They got your data, dumbass.
They got all your stuff.
Elon Musk has his tentacles in everything you're
doing, not just off of X.
But now he's in the Treasury Department.
He's in the Labor Department.
He's in the Department of Homeland Security.
He seems to do what he has to
do, so I want somebody to show that
they care enough to get off their fat
ass and say something about it.
It's all part of the Democrats.
And he, of course, is supposed to be
Republican.
Just going unhinged.
We've been noticing the cursing.
And he had a lot of things out
of you.
Damn this, damn that, off your fat ass.
Did you hear James Carville?
The EU,
there's no turning back.
Give us all your gas.
We will save you from that evil Ruskin
Putin.
Let BIMF be gluten.
Everybody wants to hear you cry.
There's a leak that we're pointing to you.
Just look out when the bombs come tumbling
down.
And you and I will be right behind
you.
So sad you almost made it.
Too bad we had to fake it.
Everybody wants to hear you cry.
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