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Adam Curry: were baking. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak. Thursday,

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June 27 2024. This Year Award
Winning Combination media

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assassination episode 1670. This
is no agenda running on backups

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and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country

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here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm

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Adam curry, and

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley words another

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nice day. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: show prep is hard,
man. It's a grind. It's a grind

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to

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John C Dvorak: tell you this
year, June where we normally

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have a kind of a mild summer is
and then it gets cold is,

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especially in July. It was
miserable last year. It was

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gloomy every day of June I
bitched and moaned about initial

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state cold, it didn't warm up
until October. Did you go back

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two years more normal?

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Adam Curry: Did you go back in
your diary and look it up?

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John C Dvorak: No, I remember
it. It was so miserable.

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Adam Curry: Before we started a
couple of couple by

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John C Dvorak: the way, wait,
wait. I advice to people out

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there who are younger.
Especially if you're going to be

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a writer that's ever for anybody
just just to be an even a normal

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person. Do a diary. Do

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Adam Curry: a diary. Do a diary.
Yes, I do a diary. Do you do a

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diary? No,

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John C Dvorak: I wish I did what
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Adam Curry: It's never too late
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John C Dvorak: It's too late to
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Adam Curry: Do you know that I
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every day someone asked to buy
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John C Dvorak: what you have
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Adam Curry: I do? I do. But no
one ever no one ever hits my

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number. They're like, yeah, and
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John C Dvorak: what do you tell
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and maybe somebody will

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Unknown: one Bitcoin? 10 That's
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Adam Curry: one's ever even
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John C Dvorak: You're now my
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Adam Curry: it. That's art.com
that's not diaries.com.

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John C Dvorak: Teto $1 million.

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Adam Curry: Okay. Oh, if you can
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Adam Curry: all of a sudden,
JCPS Oh, I have to make an

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announcement. During this
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will be muting our mics if
either of us starts to spew

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disinformation? Or if we're
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John C Dvorak: Well, I tell you,
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mute. Out of the blue? Because I
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Adam Curry: That's really funny.
That's a good gag. John, I'd

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like to do that is very funny.
Two other mentions, I have to

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let you know. We discussed on
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hard drive. In the Beelink.

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John C Dvorak: You Yes, we did.

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Adam Curry: And I of course had
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had the connectors I'm ready to
do the the what is it? The

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ghosting and yesterday I didn't
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didn't do anything on Tuesday,
Wednesday morning. I walk in and

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it fails.

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John C Dvorak: is done is tele
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end of the show in the miracle
blur. And that may may occur

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with the post mortem where we
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Adam Curry: said what do we want
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talked about this about this
drive. And then I had to get a

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new drive and I didn't even have
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Wednesday. So I'm running on the
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Beelink is toast. I don't think
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that drive back to life.
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up this Beelink thinking oh,
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then you open it up. You open
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there's a nice little slot for
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no, you've got to open it. You
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John C Dvorak: That's for an add
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Adam Curry: know but it's not
like the easiest to get this

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thing out of the Beelink it
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John C Dvorak: I had to be
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happened. I have. I have another
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too. I warned you about getting
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could which you didn't, which I
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Adam Curry: was like I was going
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John C Dvorak: getting the drive
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that hard. It's not like a
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Adam Curry: me ask you a
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failed on you? Does that contain
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a password or two on it, but it
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cautious now and I back
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Adam Curry: very cautious so I'm
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surface eight. Which, who knows
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that you can do anything with
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John C Dvorak: baked. Yeah,
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whole machine is toast you can't
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then the other just shouldn't be
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Adam Curry: Just a minor
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periodontal procedure on
Tuesday, so I'm a bit swollen

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and and it only luckily it only
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John C Dvorak: I'm supposed to
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one liners and the rest

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Adam Curry: It's already hurting
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John C Dvorak: you stop laugh I
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Adam Curry: I told him I say
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the show on Thursday said no no
no Adam there's there's a I got

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a cocktail party this is a
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so we might as well do it now.
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hear me go Allahu Akbar. You'll
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John C Dvorak: understand where
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don't understand it probably
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Adam Curry: it's it's the
implant is already in there I

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did some bone graft that arm
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John C Dvorak: grafted on

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Adam Curry: okay, you can just
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need to be listening to my built
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John C Dvorak: get that way they
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after the show which is not
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Adam Curry: Well, which is
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John C Dvorak: nice try. That's
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Adam Curry: Anyway, today every
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all GD all jacked up. Oh, it's
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John C Dvorak: Today's big day,

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Adam Curry: it's the big day.
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overshadows Assange. To be fair
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John C Dvorak: was I think it's
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Adam Curry: let me do a
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your Assange clips. This is a
shorty Julian Assange

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documenting his journey today on
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Bangkok. And finally, the
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he's just landed. And when
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Justice Department's 18 charges
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conspiring with Army
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Manning to hack us secrets
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And he will get credit for time
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a UK jail. In 2010. Assange is
WikiLeaks released a trove of

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and Afghanistan. This the end of
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likely be Australia, where his
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Adam Curry: I'm always baffled
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the reporting. Why don't we do
we run out of American

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John C Dvorak: There has to be
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Adam Curry: Yeah, it's more
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John C Dvorak: certain
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use Brett's because it conveys
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understand because we never saw
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Adam Curry: Okay, fair enough, I
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John C Dvorak: It is I don't
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Adam Curry: They don't have
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John C Dvorak: Not that I can
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John C Dvorak: break down, okay.
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complete, it went on and on and
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had the they brought in an
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stuff should be shot, and
answered old PBS, and some, and

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this guy was like a stooge, if
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speech guy who's willing, you
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wasn't worth it. But I think the
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WikiLeaks founder Julian
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to his allies. A national
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is on the verge of being a free
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Assange is pleading guilty in a
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Islands that's the US
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sentenced to time served
allowing him to return to his

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native Australia. Nick Schifrin
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Nick,

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critic Jeff Assange is notorious
for some of the largest leaks of

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classified information in US
history, as well as posting

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emails that played an outsized
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tonight, the Wikileaks founder
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saga with us and heading home
tonight Julian Assange has brief

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and final moments on US soil to
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most remote courthouse on the
Northern Mariana Islands. His

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road to freedom began this
morning on the way to a British

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airport and signing his plea
deal documents and landing in

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Bangkok his first time outside
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single felony to receive and
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notes connected with the
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materials classified up to the
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communicate documents relating
to the national defense. He will

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spend no time in US jail, and
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British prison will count for
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return to his native Australia
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Albanese today celebrated his
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John C Dvorak: of the views that
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activities the case has dragged
on for too long. Yeah, yeah.

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Adam Curry: Do you have any
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fact that he took a plea deal?

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John C Dvorak: As it was a wise
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thought since when does time
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as time served in America? Are
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that? So that that prison is the
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Adam Curry: I could make that
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case Hey, we let them do our
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John C Dvorak: I guess so.

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Adam Curry: It just seems like
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plea agreement which was quite
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John C Dvorak: a video this is
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Adam Curry: Oh, not even that.
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showed up, they shot the
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terrorists of doing it was it
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aspect was the matter of fact
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Adam Curry: Yeah. But now to be
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John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
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Adam Curry: now he really only
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Hillary and Podesta emails I
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they did
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he was a bail for lontar. And so
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the whole thing was just a scam.
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propaganda in here, you'll hear
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there is nothing to be gained by
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Unknown: needs to change. nearly
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himself as the ultimate truth
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the reality of the wars in Iraq
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military tech in Baghdad that
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WikiLeaks dropped 400,000
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Pentagon said risk us informants
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Army Intelligence Analyst
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under the Espionage Act 2010 He
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authorities after two Swedish
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assault charges later dropped.
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bail, he fled into Ecuador's
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released what appears to be
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posted documents that Russian
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John C Dvorak: Exactly. You
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Adam Curry: that's not how that
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John C Dvorak: that was that was
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Adam Curry: Seth Rich? Oh, yes,
of course. Of course. Hey. Huh,

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by the way, by the way, it was I
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John C Dvorak: they should do
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this other issue, which was the
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Adam Curry: remember he did the
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about he made a big fuss about

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John C Dvorak: and not it's not
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Russians got to do with it? They
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concerned that Hillary could
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difference to them. But this is
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beginning of the Russia hoax.
Momentum began with that notion

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that the Russian stoled emails
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they can't prove that it's just

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an assertion that the left wing
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they're sticking to it, because
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later, and they're still saying
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Adam Curry: a Mayport. Maybe
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John C Dvorak: I don't I don't
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they did this during this debate
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Assange has even been released.
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Adam Curry: jet that he got on
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kim.com. He central that he's
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John C Dvorak: took him down.
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part of the deal. I think that
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Adam Curry: it wasn't in the
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been part of it. Weird. Weird.
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John C Dvorak: of all those
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Adam Curry: can't help feeling
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know. I don't know what I don't
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just said I don't know, you can
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John C Dvorak: do you have any
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think is it I think, any
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Adam Curry: all? How something
with Seth Rich, there's some

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remember that that, you know,
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John C Dvorak: laptop that's
that's never been released, that

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Adam Curry: and went to Ukraine
to CrowdStrike. There's a lot of

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messiness in this messiness. And
Lenski did just change out his

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top guy once again, maybe

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John C Dvorak: to put Assange
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Unknown: Final Report, Clinton
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defeat, he has to answer for
what he has done, at least as

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it's been charged by 2019. The
US Grand jury indicted Assange

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on 18 accounts, including
espionage The Embassy evicted

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him and British authorities
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of free speech Crusader to his
allies a threat to national

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security to his critics. Assange
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chapter in Australia with his
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I'll really believe it when I
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I can take him and hug him and
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Adam Curry: Now of course, this
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saying well, you can't publish
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document is filled with. Like
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you can't publish kind of this.
You can't do that. To Chris

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Cuomo. Remember? Remember Cuomo
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Adam Curry: can't even read the
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I remember
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I wish I could. Yeah, Cuomo is
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a spook is true, which makes it
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you're a spook, you can't can't
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actually in the public domain
which has never made any sense

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Adam Curry: Well, because you
you you have to live by certain

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rules. I guess. I don't have the
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had that. 30 rules or what the
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man the rules of the you know,
the kingdom.

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John C Dvorak: Can you ever
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Adam Curry: not do it. I have
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any different slant from a
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GOODMAN flippin bound.

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Unknown: Well, WikiLeaks founder
Julian Assange is home in

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Australia, a free man Assange
his arrival in Australia, and

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more than 12 year legal ordeal
after he published classified

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documents detailing US war
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Press Freedom groups have
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administrations for targeting
Assange, who'd been facing 175

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years and US prison if he'd been
extradited and convicted. 12

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years ago this month, Assange
entered the Ecuadorian Embassy

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where he was given political
asylum. He spent seven years

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there. He has spent the last
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harsh Belmarsh prison in London
Parsh. Earlier today, Julian

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Assange flew from London to the
Pacific island of Saipan and

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Northern Mariana Islands, where
he entered a US District Court

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and pled guilty to a single
felony count of illegally

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obtaining and disclosing
national security material. The

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judge Ramona Magalona sentenced
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already spent behind bars
saying, quote, you will be able

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to walk out of this courtroom of
free man, I hope there will be

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some peace restored. She said.

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Adam Curry: No, no, I don't see
the media going. Hey, man,

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that's offsides. We should we be
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John C Dvorak: Oh, there's been
some complaining but it's been

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very minor. Yeah. And it's by by
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Adam Curry: You saw Tucker in
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, Tucker in
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clip. It's about 20 minutes of
this one segment the question

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and answers and people should
look that up. It's on son, the

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Twitter for sure. And he just
goes after some of these people

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that are the Australian
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almost like he's talking to a
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they insult some and tell it
says they're stupid, and they

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just keep asking dumb questions.
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ever seen. I was trying to clip
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Adam Curry: I even I actually
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John C Dvorak: tight enough,
but, but he's at his best. He's,

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and he's laughing it up. And
he's, he's, he's been sent there

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for some something.

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Adam Curry: I presume he's there
to interview Julian Assange.

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John C Dvorak: That will that
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I'm sure he will use that. But
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this thing that we witnessed on
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meeting of the journalist in
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keynote or some sort of a speech
and then insulting everybody?

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Adam Curry: It was a little
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hooting and hollering and

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clapping for him. So those
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sure. It was unclear exactly
what that was.

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John C Dvorak: It was unclear
and I wish there was more

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context that they just posted
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Adam Curry: It's kind of nice to
see the awakening of Tucker

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though. And a little I always
thought he was playing more dumb

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when he was on Fox. You know
that then he was letting on but

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how bad it was. And to see this

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awakening is fun, but you know,
what does it do more than Yeah,

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you're showing checker. It's not
gonna change anything. Bunch of

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people retweeting those, those
good change. Majority of people

445
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still look at the news and go,
Oh, yeah, yep. Yep, that seems

446
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,210
about right. It does make the
news in general doesn't make for

447
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some some funny. I mean, that's,
it helps our show a lot. Because

448
00:25:40,050 --> 00:25:45,270
they are so stupid, though, is
the So tonight, we have that guy

449
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got a number of, of like, pre
pre debate clips, just because

450
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it's so I mean, it's so

451
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Unknown: show businessy is very

452
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, can I
imagine I mentioned something

453
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here. And I do have one example.
And maybe I'll play it after you

454
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play your clips. There has been
an inundation of produced clips,

455
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pro Trump clips that are
attacking Joe Biden. And I think

456
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it's borderline sick the way
they go after him. It is highly

457
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entertaining. Hello. But it is.
Unbelievably, I would say it has

458
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to be categorized as sick.

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Adam Curry: Give me an example
of what is oh, I

460
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John C Dvorak: don't know if I
even do I have one. I think I

461
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think I found one. But it's all
kinds of stuff. They have just a

462
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man on the street. There was a
whole series of this one guy

463
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here this will live in your life
and they go from they just play

464
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:56,490
a million guy on the street. And
everybody's pro Trump black,

465
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white, Mexican, Chinese. And it
just goes on and never ends. I'm

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gonna see if I have

467
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Adam Curry: viral clips. This is
not on the mainstream media.

468
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This just by Oh, no, these

469
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John C Dvorak: are all viral
clips. But they've all been very

470
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well. They're very well
structured. Here's a talk anti

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Biden clip. This is what the
typical. Okay, here we go. Look,

472
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I'm

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Unknown: not a young guy. That's
no secret. But here's the deal.

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I understand how to get these
time for the illegal aliens. I

475
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encourage the surge of illegals
at the US border, I would in

476
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fact make sure that there is we
immediately surge to the border.

477
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I got it done. You know how I
know the border is wide open. I

478
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sent my girl Kamala to take care
of it. Do not come. Do not come.

479
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I believe the job of the
president is to fight for you

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with foreign invaders, then
that's what I'm doing. I'm a

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complete dipshit and I approve
this message.

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Adam Curry: That was good. But I
thought some of the stuff that

483
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hit the mainstream was even
better. First, let me let me

484
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:04,410
give you a little horse race.
This is how it is for those of

485
00:28:04,410 --> 00:28:08,910
you not in America. This is how
it's presented. Biden

486
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Unknown: Trump they both want
your vote and both won a second

487
00:28:12,570 --> 00:28:16,800
term. Now they make their case
as they face each other. Watch

488
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,420
the CNN presidential debate
simulcast live on ABC Thursday

489
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night at 9am. Eastern.

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Adam Curry: I mean, come by,
like UFC. Where's Rogen? Get him

491
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:31,260
in there? Yeah, really? So
Martin Short. Yeah. Who doesn't

492
00:28:31,260 --> 00:28:35,220
know Martin Short. He's on ABC.
And he makes a little Biden

493
00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:35,760
joke. I

494
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Unknown: Kyle, let me ask you
this. Did you hear the news

495
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,540
about Starbucks? No, no. What's
the news? Now this is

496
00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:44,100
fascinating. Starbucks launched

497
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:48,690
a new energy drink today. It's
called iced energy. And it's the

498
00:28:48,690 --> 00:28:53,460
same amount of caffeine as six
cans of Coke, and food. And it's

499
00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:56,910
now available to every
Starbucks. Just in time for Joe

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Biden to shoot it up as asked me
for the debate on Thursday.

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00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:06,630
Adam Curry: Come on. That's good
one. Yeah, like that at all. CNN

502
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took a little. I mean, the fact
that they're discussing this is

503
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what would just makes me smile.

504
00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:13,770
Unknown: I think some of the
rhetoric, Speaker Johnson, I

505
00:29:13,770 --> 00:29:17,520
mean, just knowing you and how
you conduct yourself using some

506
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,950
of the rhetoric is out of line
when when people from Trump's

507
00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:23,190
team are suggesting the Trump
himself that Biden is going to

508
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:25,290
be on cocaine when he's on the
debates.

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John C Dvorak: There's a lot of
things by the way, just as a

510
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because I've heard the speeches
that Trump did he was gonna get

511
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:39,480
a shot in the ass you know, and
all this and he mentions cocaine

512
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:42,120
in there says I wonder what
happened to all that cocaine in

513
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,730
the white but that's as far as
he goes with it. Right? It's the

514
00:29:44,730 --> 00:29:46,140
media that's picked up

515
00:29:46,140 --> 00:29:49,050
Adam Curry: the cocaine me Why
are they bringing it up? I mean,

516
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:49,830
they love

517
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John C Dvorak: it because
they're all coked up have him

518
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themselves when he's

519
00:29:53,310 --> 00:29:54,930
Unknown: on that debate stage
Thursday night.

520
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:59,670
Look, there's a lot of things
that are said in jest of course,

521
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no one is spects that Joe Biden
will be on cocaine, but they

522
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they do.

523
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Adam Curry: Now, of course, no
one's sure he'd be on cocaine

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like you already.

525
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Unknown: They do ask questions.
And I think they're, they're

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objectively. I mean, I think it
makes sense why people are

527
00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:16,620
asking, Will it be on some sort
of energy drinks or something?

528
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:20,760
Okay. Look, his energy levels
you can see vary depending on

529
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,630
what format he's in and what
forum and, you know, we expected

530
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:26,670
he'll do what he did at the
State of the Union. He had a lot

531
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of energy that night. So that's
the Joe Biden, I expect to see

532
00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:32,130
that the question is, can he
stay for 90 minutes on that

533
00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:35,280
stage and go toe to toe with,
with President Trump, who is,

534
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,650
you know, goes to rallies and
talks for two hours on end

535
00:30:37,650 --> 00:30:40,530
without any break and any notes.
So it'll be a very interesting

536
00:30:40,890 --> 00:30:41,490
thing to see.

537
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,490
I mean, the allegations just
about drugs have just been,

538
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,970
frankly, ridiculous and,
obviously are baseless

539
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:52,050
Adam Curry: based obviously,
obviously, basis. Why basis,

540
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:56,490
obviously baseless, it's got to
be something going on. CNN

541
00:30:56,490 --> 00:31:00,300
making a big deal about the
technology. There's a lot of

542
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:03,660
tech going on here a lot of
technology about these mic mutes

543
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:05,850
Yeah, this is something we've
never ever done. Before I want

544
00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:09,390
this, we got green buttons, we
got make mute. Let's, let's do a

545
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:10,770
little let's do a little package
on it.

546
00:31:10,830 --> 00:31:14,010
Unknown: If we go behind the
podiums, you can see two green

547
00:31:14,010 --> 00:31:17,280
lights. When they're on they
signal to the candidate, his

548
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,490
microphone is on. When the green
lights are off, they signal to

549
00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:23,670
the candidate his microphone is
off. Now I want to give you a

550
00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:26,040
sense of what it will look like
for viewers at home if a

551
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,310
candidate who's microphone is
off, interrupts a candidate

552
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:32,130
whose microphone is on. So I'm
standing at one podium, and I'll

553
00:31:32,130 --> 00:31:35,190
ask Phil to come in and take the
other podium. And so let's say

554
00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:38,040
I'm answering a question. My
light is green, and I'm

555
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,790
speaking, Phil's microphone is
off and his green lights are not

556
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:44,910
illuminated. He's going to
interrupt me as I'm speaking and

557
00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:48,270
this is what it will sound like
this my volume remains constant

558
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:51,210
while Phil's interruption can be
difficult to understand.

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00:31:52,290 --> 00:31:55,260
Let's try the opposite. My
microphone is now on Victor's

560
00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:59,550
microphone is off, and he's
going to interrupt me. My volume

561
00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:02,880
remains constant while Victor's
interruption can be difficult to

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880
understand. A Siemens production
team has shared this

563
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,980
demonstration with the
campaign's earlier today, and

564
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:10,890
we're sharing it with you, our
viewers, so everyone fully

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00:32:10,890 --> 00:32:14,130
understands how tomorrow night
will work. Now, we should know,

566
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by agreeing to participate in
this debate. Both campaigns and

567
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,060
candidates have also agreed to
abide by these rules. Yes,

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00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:23,550
the rules. The rule. Isn't this
now I

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00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:26,160
John C Dvorak: shouldn't have
clipped the meme that was

570
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,280
created from that particular
piece. Oh, I don't know if you

571
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,090
saw it. Probably not. But it's
on Twitter. It's the station

572
00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:35,580
does the exact same thing. But
as the guy says the now when

573
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:40,140
he's his mic is off. And then
you hear Biden is an idiot. And

574
00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:43,710
he goes on and on. You can hear
both sides. And it's just, it's,

575
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:47,130
it's, it's pretty funny. It's
not, you know, but this again,

576
00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:55,980
is part of a barrage of negative
Biden, memes and virals. They're

577
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:59,940
out there. The end, there's not
just one or two, there's, I'm

578
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:02,370
There must be hundreds of them.
And there, most of them are

579
00:33:02,370 --> 00:33:06,180
quite funny. And it's very
aggressive. It's much. I'd say,

580
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,710
if you go back to 2015 2016 when
Trump was running against

581
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:14,070
Hillary, and you had those few
crazy ads that were running on

582
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:18,210
Facebook, the $100,000 worth of
ads, supposedly that was going

583
00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:22,680
to sway the election somehow.
They're these are much more

584
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,170
aggressive. This is this is
pretty funny.

585
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Adam Curry: The format of the
debate kind of is not a

586
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,840
throwback to like the 60s when
they used to do that with it

587
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,240
would just there wasn't even an
audience wasn't

588
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,590
John C Dvorak: Yes, Kennedy.
Nixon

589
00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:42,990
Adam Curry: was no audience.
Yeah. And that turned out that

590
00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:47,490
worked well for Kennedy. Yeah,
because Nixon was sweating. Oh,

591
00:33:47,490 --> 00:33:49,860
that's right. Well, and
ultimately, that's what this is

592
00:33:49,860 --> 00:33:53,370
about. We it's all about the
ones. I mean, it's all about the

593
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one soundbite. I mean, I still
remember Reagan. He said, I

594
00:33:56,910 --> 00:34:03,090
won't hold the senators age
against him, because he's a much

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00:34:03,090 --> 00:34:04,290
younger man. You know, it's

596
00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:06,330
John C Dvorak: like,
inexperienced, inexperienced.

597
00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:09,270
Adam Curry: That's right. It's
all about the one single

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00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:10,800
soundbite. And

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00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:13,410
John C Dvorak: my favorite one
is still I forgot who I think it

600
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was, who was it was a vice
presidential debate where the

601
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,960
guest says you're no John
Kennedy, right? Well, I knew

602
00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:21,720
John Kennedy. You're no jacket.
The thing is, of course, I don't

603
00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:23,880
remember who that particular
candidate was because there's a

604
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,740
VP, but it was a good line.

605
00:34:25,769 --> 00:34:28,169
Adam Curry: But then Biden
actually use that line later and

606
00:34:28,169 --> 00:34:31,049
said, Oh, now you're Jack
Kennedy. Yeah. He used that in a

607
00:34:31,049 --> 00:34:31,619
debate. Yeah,

608
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John C Dvorak: he tried to
plagiarize it, but he couldn't.

609
00:34:33,450 --> 00:34:34,650
Well, that's all he does.

610
00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:40,980
Adam Curry: He can't even
plagiarize. Well. So, you know,

611
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,170
obviously Biden has has one
obvious one, convicted felon,

612
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:51,510
Trump has unconvicted felon.
Okay. You know, I think if Trump

613
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is just calm, and

614
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:57,090
John C Dvorak: he, he just yeah,
this is the main issue that I

615
00:34:57,090 --> 00:35:01,050
think it can do it and maybe
maybe not Sorry to say I don't

616
00:35:01,050 --> 00:35:03,090
think it's gonna make a lot of
difference one way or the other.

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00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:04,500
No, this

618
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:07,920
Adam Curry: is this is just UFC.
This is just, I mean there's

619
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debate parties there was getting
together and yeah, I'm a friends

620
00:35:11,550 --> 00:35:14,580
of mine. Oh, I'm on a boat but I
got my starting so I can watch

621
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:17,130
the debate is debate night.
Like,

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00:35:17,610 --> 00:35:22,200
John C Dvorak: okay yeah it's a
course you're gonna watch it I'm

623
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,080
gonna watch it we're not gonna
be able to resist. Yeah.

624
00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:29,340
Adam Curry: I have some more in
depth discussion about this from

625
00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:33,330
MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell who
brings in the illustrious a

626
00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:35,790
Chuck Todd from the podcast. The
Biden

627
00:35:35,790 --> 00:35:38,400
Unknown: and the Trump campaigns
are looking at tomorrow's debate

628
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:42,360
for a major opportunity to shake
up a tight race possibly even

629
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,050
trip up their opponents and
disease Chief Political Analyst

630
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,920
Chuck Todd arguing that Biden
and Trump have more to lose than

631
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,550
gain from this first debate. And
Chuck joins me now along with

632
00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:57,450
USA Today's Washington bureau
chief Susan Page. Great to have

633
00:35:57,450 --> 00:36:01,770
the two of you. You've seen so
many debates, hits and misses

634
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,500
chuck, chuck, what's what do
they got to lose?

635
00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:06,270
Adam Curry: Well, I will say
this, we fall into this trap

636
00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:08,910
before where we get so excited
about a first confrontation.

637
00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:11,220
Sometimes it's the first primary
debate or first general election

638
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:13,710
debate. And then we always go
wow, they didn't they didn't

639
00:36:13,710 --> 00:36:15,630
really lay a glove on each
other. They really were sort of

640
00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:18,990
feeling each other out. And it's
like, yeah, because Oh, that

641
00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:21,960
would be horrible. If we don't
have any, any anything to play

642
00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:25,380
for suddenly, their operatives
remind the candidates, hey,

643
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,750
there's a lot of people tuning
into you guys for the very first

644
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:30,390
time you're making a first
impression. And he and Well,

645
00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:32,340
these guys have already made
their first impressions.

646
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:36,000
Arguably, there's still somewhat
of that. And I do think, you

647
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,750
know, six weeks ago, Biden
really needed to do something to

648
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:42,720
shake up the race. What's
interesting is that in the last

649
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,480
six weeks, I could argue both
campaigns have gotten steadier.

650
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:50,310
Both campaigns feel better about
their current state, and

651
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,730
operationally, both campaigns
are in a better place than they

652
00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:57,030
were six weeks ago. And so when
you're entering a debate where

653
00:36:57,030 --> 00:37:00,030
you're actually feeling like
your path to victory is visible

654
00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:03,480
to you, you're gonna be a little
more risk averse and I just look

655
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:07,230
these are the I'm not saying
Captain chaos won't show up.

656
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,190
Captain if you're coming from
the perspective of the operators

657
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:14,580
I've talked to I think this
firework even people think

658
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:18,300
John C Dvorak: operatives so the
talking about well, the opposite

659
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:18,750
Luke's

660
00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:21,210
Adam Curry: the operatives are
Jake Tapper and Dana Bash.

661
00:37:21,210 --> 00:37:22,920
Hello. Yeah,

662
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,930
John C Dvorak: I think they're
part of the whole thing. But

663
00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:29,250
yeah, I should mention that Lisa
was put in the newsletter. Oh,

664
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,300
yeah. One of our producers
dropped coach said, this is the

665
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,200
reason for the week long delay
so they can do a new mask. Yep.

666
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:41,250
And create a new perfect mask
because they can do the mat.

667
00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:43,530
They do our masks out there. You
can if you're,

668
00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:45,930
Adam Curry: I'm all in on the
masks. The masks are real. And

669
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,150
they work and they're very
convincing. And they're

670
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:52,410
undetectable. I know from my own
family's experience. And

671
00:37:52,410 --> 00:37:55,740
John C Dvorak: you have so you
have a new guy, a new actor and

672
00:37:55,740 --> 00:38:00,540
a Biden mask with the Polish
teeth and they're gay sounds a

673
00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:04,410
lot like Biden, but he may or
may not be Biden. I think voice

674
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:08,490
a voice record would be good to
do a voice graph and see what

675
00:38:08,490 --> 00:38:08,880
happens

676
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,130
Adam Curry: but who's the
crackpot here. And

677
00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:14,760
John C Dvorak: so and so the
idea is, is which like you said,

678
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,840
this is not an technology that's
not unknown. So you have an

679
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,750
actor and he it takes a week for
him to memorize because they

680
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:24,660
have the questions. They're
already seeing it as a question

681
00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:28,050
to the deviously the Biden
campaign so they can say oh,

682
00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:30,210
here's the questions and here's
the answers and they had to

683
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:34,380
practice gonna take a week of
acting for this phony baloney

684
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:41,460
Biden to to to actually present
well and and the reason they put

685
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:45,030
the end they have the two
candidates, especially long

686
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:48,360
distance away this now I am a
little crack party on this part

687
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:51,750
a long distance away because
Trump won't be able to see him

688
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:54,960
close enough to identify a mask
even

689
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,840
Adam Curry: doable or to to jam
the

690
00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:03,180
John C Dvorak: ram with a pocket
jammer i i have a I had one of

691
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:05,700
these I don't know where this
thing went but it's in your

692
00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:10,050
pocket jam or you can put in
your pocket and I tested it when

693
00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:13,260
I was at MVNO with a couple of
the guys there I said make a

694
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:15,930
phone call see if you can get a
connection and this got a

695
00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:20,280
connection I reached over my my
breast pocket and just pushed

696
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,830
the button and started this
thing not to call right off the

697
00:39:22,830 --> 00:39:26,460
line instantly all bandwidth
pocket jammer ma'am a gentle

698
00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:30,750
band pocket jammer so you have a
jammer. You can jam but it's

699
00:39:30,750 --> 00:39:35,790
only good for about four or five
feet. So you move by one way or

700
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:39,510
the other side end and might
also interfere with the mics.

701
00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:43,890
Well, if you're using wireless
mics, it will interfere with the

702
00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:47,250
mics if it's not wireless, it
shouldn't make a difference, but

703
00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:50,340
it would interfere with any ear
wig or any little device that

704
00:39:50,340 --> 00:39:52,050
was put in Biden's ear.

705
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,080
Adam Curry: The bottom line is I
mean, okay, fine. I don't care

706
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,970
if it's Biden or someone in a
mask who has an earwig Trump has

707
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,140
As the natural style he he can.
Peace. He's still quick on his

708
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,950
feet. Yeah, just because it
won't be Biden going hobbling

709
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:14,340
ahead and falling down doesn't
mean that. But

710
00:40:14,340 --> 00:40:15,960
John C Dvorak: that's what I
want to see. Well,

711
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:19,230
Adam Curry: exactly. That's what
we that's what we really want.

712
00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:20,130
We

713
00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:22,680
John C Dvorak: want to real
Biden we want him stumbling and

714
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,580
mumbling and saying weird words
and nobody can understand and

715
00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:29,790
maybe passing out. I mean that
would be the best but that's not

716
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:32,550
going to happen if you're going
to have a guy in a mask, okay?

717
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:35,400
Adam Curry: It's really it
doesn't matter. The whole thing

718
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,100
doesn't matter. The debate
doesn't matter. What matters is

719
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,690
Jake Tapper's record, former

720
00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:42,360
Unknown: President Donald Trump
in an interview earlier today

721
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,100
was given a chance to clear up
any confusion about his Hitler

722
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:50,640
echoing comments, in which you
said this is some classics from

723
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,600
2020 that immigrants from South
America, Africa and Asia. Now

724
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,260
Europe to South America, Africa
and Asia are, quote, poisoning

725
00:40:58,260 --> 00:41:02,910
the blood of our country. The
dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf

726
00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:06,990
Hitler is once again alive and
well on a national political

727
00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:11,730
stage. If you were to open up a
copy of Hitler's mind calm, you

728
00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:14,700
would find the Nazi leader
describing the mixing of non

729
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:18,930
Germans with George Germans as
poisoning. The Jew, Hitler

730
00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:22,260
wrote, quote, poisons the blood
of others, there's really no

731
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:25,800
other way to say it. Donald
Trump's language mirrors this

732
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,700
directly this

733
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,100
Adam Curry: he's Adolf Hitler, I
want to go back to Andrea

734
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:33,150
Mitchell with the USA Today lady
who was on with with Chuck and

735
00:41:33,150 --> 00:41:36,540
Unknown: it was high risk, high
reward for Joe Biden, because

736
00:41:37,110 --> 00:41:40,950
the exposure without a
teleprompter on a stage for 90

737
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:44,910
minutes, you know, he could
falter and any single moment

738
00:41:44,910 --> 00:41:48,990
could be could go viral,
especially the way even it isn't

739
00:41:48,990 --> 00:41:54,510
moments not not damaged and
damaging moments like the g7 or,

740
00:41:55,350 --> 00:41:58,080
you know, faked and edited out
of context,

741
00:41:58,110 --> 00:42:01,410
you know, they've not only had
the impression made their second

742
00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:03,300
and third and fourth
impressions, they're all made

743
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,150
their images, their views, the
views of voters to that each of

744
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:09,420
these candidates is set in
political concrete. So the risks

745
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:13,050
now I think is less to like make
an impression you've never made

746
00:42:13,050 --> 00:42:16,770
before. More that the other guy
or you make some kind of error.

747
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:20,160
That thing gets repeated over
and over and over again, on

748
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,400
cable TV and on social media.
And that that becomes the image

749
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,420
that people remember.

750
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,090
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that won't
change anybody's vote. No one's

751
00:42:27,090 --> 00:42:30,060
going to switch because of this
debate. Everyone's dug their

752
00:42:30,060 --> 00:42:30,810
heels in and

753
00:42:31,350 --> 00:42:33,630
John C Dvorak: I'm in total
agreement this is

754
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:37,170
Adam Curry: are they having ads
are they gonna roll ads on this

755
00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:37,530
thing?

756
00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:41,460
John C Dvorak: One I asked the
same question last show yeah, I

757
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:44,250
Adam Curry: want to know what
one ad one ad who's it going to

758
00:42:44,250 --> 00:42:47,220
be? Who's the one ad going to be
have a coke and a smile?

759
00:42:47,250 --> 00:42:49,020
John C Dvorak: What's it going
to probably be a drug company

760
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:49,200
come

761
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,820
Adam Curry: on. Pfizer. Hey,
well, the prop bets the prop

762
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:56,460
bets mine to profits are funny.

763
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:57,390
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have

764
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:03,060
Adam Curry: who's first answer
during the debate will be longer

765
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,750
debate winner as proposed first
to mispronounced a politician's

766
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:11,820
name. Though here's the match
bet democracy versus border.

767
00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:17,820
Well, Joe is obviously going to
go after democracy. Slogans

768
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Magga. Republicans versus save
America. They hate our country,

769
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:31,320
Black Lives Matter. First Wives
mentioned Jill versus Melania.

770
00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:35,220
Favorites Melania. To be
mentored and mentioned. Hi,

771
00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:41,220
favorite there? Nothing about
first candidates suggests the

772
00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:42,840
other is on drugs. Okay.

773
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:46,620
John C Dvorak: That'll be good.
I

774
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:48,900
Adam Curry: think about the
first I wonder who the who the

775
00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:53,040
who? The. Yeah, probably what
probably Pfizer

776
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:55,560
Unknown: will make now.

777
00:43:57,570 --> 00:43:59,490
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
couple of interesting things

778
00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:02,730
there. Which is the fact that
they would continue to promote

779
00:44:02,730 --> 00:44:07,290
the idea that that that video of
Biden turning around and yes,

780
00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:10,410
heading in the wrong direction
is is fake? Yeah, that's

781
00:44:10,410 --> 00:44:14,100
interesting is really beyond me.
I mean, you can even watch if

782
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,280
you watch the extended version,
the whole video where Biden at

783
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,020
the end slowly puts his
sunglasses on, which is the in

784
00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:27,150
slow motion. Yeah. It's like,
this is not why it keeps saying

785
00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:30,480
this is fake. When it's not
clearly not fake. I don't get

786
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,740
that. We

787
00:44:31,740 --> 00:44:33,810
Adam Curry: know that we know
that because that's how it needs

788
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:36,930
to be used. So you can just if
you keep repeating that they can

789
00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:41,370
always say if something that's
clearly true, it was fake. Well,

790
00:44:41,370 --> 00:44:45,450
John C Dvorak: this is similar
to the other mainstream media, I

791
00:44:45,450 --> 00:44:49,110
have to call them a meme, if
anything about the fact that the

792
00:44:49,110 --> 00:44:53,160
Russians stole these Hillary
Clinton emails. I mean, the

793
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:59,220
whole idea is really besides
it's really it is complicit.

794
00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:02,160
It's corrupt. It had

795
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,520
Adam Curry: terrible people keep
watching it. That's the crazy

796
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,240
sales day

797
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,090
John C Dvorak: watch it, but yes
they do. Here's because they're

798
00:45:09,150 --> 00:45:12,930
they they're bored. They watch
television. Now they watch clips

799
00:45:12,930 --> 00:45:14,970
Adam Curry: online. Nobody
watches television. The numbers

800
00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:21,090
show it. They watch clips clips
of stuff online. This is a CNN,

801
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,260
Casey hunt. And she has Trump's
press secretary.

802
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,100
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is?

803
00:45:26,730 --> 00:45:28,770
Adam Curry: No I didn't even
know we had a press secretary.

804
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:31,320
Caroline leave it was she's

805
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,670
John C Dvorak: one of the
campaign segra Yes, she's Casey

806
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:40,680
Hunt is one of the worst
presenters on no KCC hunt by the

807
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,640
way. No,

808
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,290
Adam Curry: please. It is not it
is.

809
00:45:43,890 --> 00:45:44,790
John C Dvorak: You check it out.

810
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:52,320
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. I
don't believe that for a second.

811
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:58,830
does not say that. No, does not
say that she was born. It's

812
00:45:58,830 --> 00:46:04,590
Casey s hunt. Good try. Good.
Good. Try to vorak it's it's so

813
00:46:04,590 --> 00:46:07,350
it takes someone five minutes to
Google Jake Tapper. Donald Trump

814
00:46:07,350 --> 00:46:10,470
to see that Jake Tapper has
consistent offers. You're gonna

815
00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:14,880
filter. Ma'am, I'm going to
style Ma'am, are you if I'm

816
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,230
stating to attack my

817
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:19,860
Unknown: colleagues, I would
like to talk about Donald Trump,

818
00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:22,380
who you work for? Yes. If you
are here to speak on his behalf.

819
00:46:22,380 --> 00:46:26,850
And I want you to have this
conversation. I am stating facts

820
00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:29,280
that your colleagues have stated
in the past now. I'm sorry.

821
00:46:29,490 --> 00:46:32,700
We're gonna come back to
Caroline, they have your time.

822
00:46:32,730 --> 00:46:36,270
You are welcome to come back at
any point she is welcome to come

823
00:46:36,270 --> 00:46:39,360
back and speak about Donald
Trump and Donald Trump will have

824
00:46:39,390 --> 00:46:44,130
equal time to Joe Biden when
they both Join us now, at next

825
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,550
Burley later this week in
Atlanta for this

826
00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:53,130
Adam Curry: schoolmarm? Well,
you you, ma'am, ma'am, who calls

827
00:46:53,130 --> 00:46:57,300
anyone Ma'am? Ma'am, ma'am, if
you don't say bad things about

828
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:01,800
my colleagues, I'm going to cut
you off, ma'am. Please. I'm glad

829
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,380
I don't have to get these clips
myself. That'd be too painful.

830
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,670
Here's how. Here's how

831
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:08,520
John C Dvorak: I saw that the
number of did kept playing Fox

832
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:10,590
using that as like a punching
bag.

833
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:14,700
Adam Curry: Of course. Let's
let's go and see how France 24

834
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:18,900
handles the preparations for the
historic US presidential

835
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:19,260
debates.

836
00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:23,130
Unknown: The question is to
avoid scenes like this in 2020.

837
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,630
Would you listen who is on your
list, Joe Biden and Donald Trump

838
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:32,040
have agreed to a new set of
rules for that 2024 TV rematch.

839
00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:34,950
We have ended the segment each
candidate's microphone will be

840
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:38,430
muted for the first debate of
the campaign. Except when it's

841
00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:42,540
his turn to speak post CNN said
that during the 90 Minute face

842
00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:46,710
off, there will also be no live
audience. podium positions and

843
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:49,860
the order of closing statements
will be determined by a coin

844
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:53,520
flip. And candidates will not be
allowed to notes or props, but

845
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,150
will be given a pen and a pad of
paper. After lobbying from both

846
00:47:57,150 --> 00:48:00,630
candidates. The TV event is
taking place months earlier than

847
00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:04,560
usual. It will also be the first
debate either candidate has

848
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,790
participated in in this campaign
season as Biden run largely

849
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:13,860
unopposed. And Trump's skip the
Republican primary debates. So

850
00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:18,480
you have two men that have not
debated in four years. So you've

851
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200
got two guys don't like each
other haven't seen each other.

852
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:26,430
pretty rusty heading into the
biggest night of their lives.

853
00:48:26,550 --> 00:48:26,850
About

854
00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:30,120
six in 10. American adults say
they're likely to watch the

855
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,750
debate life or in clips, or read
about the performance of the

856
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:36,000
candidates in the news or social
media.

857
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:42,660
Adam Curry: Yeah, the background
of all this when Reagan he gave

858
00:48:42,660 --> 00:48:46,380
his farewell speech, I think
January 9, January 11. Actually

859
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:51,690
1989. So just before the 90
said, is that right? Is that

860
00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:56,100
right to sound right at night?
That was right. Yeah. So I was

861
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,770
reading his whole speech. I just
pulled a little piece just to

862
00:48:58,770 --> 00:49:02,730
show you the contrast from when
I was on MTV, you know, of

863
00:49:02,730 --> 00:49:04,980
course, I wasn't paying any
attention to any of this. I

864
00:49:04,980 --> 00:49:09,540
wasn't paid on MTV school
councils or, you know, school

865
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:12,120
board or council meetings that
were caused those losers of

866
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,950
course, no, because my I will.
Mia culpa my generation.

867
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,500
Literally let a lot of this
stuff happened because we are

868
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:22,920
too busy. Yeah, I was on MTV,
who cares? I'm having a good

869
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,490
time. So he was the part of
Reagan and of course, there was

870
00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:28,890
a presidential debate that
night, who would have been

871
00:49:28,890 --> 00:49:33,030
debating that night? That would
have been Bush and Gore and

872
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:37,830
gore. So he says, I've spoken of
the shining city all my

873
00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:41,190
political life, but I don't know
if I ever quite communicated

874
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:44,760
what I saw when I said it. But
in my mind, it was a tall, proud

875
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,260
city built on rock stronger than
oceans, windswept, God blessed

876
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:52,350
and teaming with people of all
kinds living in harmony and

877
00:49:52,350 --> 00:49:56,190
peace, a city with free ports
that hummed with commerce and

878
00:49:56,190 --> 00:49:59,610
creativity. As you know, there's
a presidential debate tonight

879
00:49:59,670 --> 00:50:02,910
held praying, but I won't be
praying for a political party or

880
00:50:02,910 --> 00:50:06,030
a man, I'll be asking God to
give his favor to the man who

881
00:50:06,030 --> 00:50:08,820
can best lead us in
rediscovering who we are as a

882
00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:12,120
nation. I'll ask God to give
favor to the man who believes

883
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,680
most in We the People. And all I
asked for is his grace on He who

884
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,150
knows believes most in the city
on the hill. Dude, we are far

885
00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:21,840
from that.

886
00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:23,880
John C Dvorak: Times change.

887
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,270
Unknown: Not better.

888
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:30,840
John C Dvorak: Not necessary?
Well, depends on your sense of

889
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,740
humor. Now, let's say they going
back to their notion that

890
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:38,040
they're going to have these pads
and ink and a pen and pen and a

891
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,580
pad on their desk. Yes, that's
all they got. Now, if I was

892
00:50:41,580 --> 00:50:47,520
coaching and I, again, thinking
in terms of sense of humor, I

893
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,820
think that that Trump because
he's going to have his mic cut

894
00:50:50,820 --> 00:50:55,530
off, should write in with the
pen in big letters. He's, he's

895
00:50:55,950 --> 00:51:03,240
shit. And hold it up. When
Biden's talking,

896
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:06,210
Adam Curry: I'll give you $1. If
he does that, that would be

897
00:51:06,210 --> 00:51:06,870
pretty funny.

898
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,540
John C Dvorak: It would be great
if he did that, because it would

899
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:13,650
be like it would get nothing but
attention. And it would they

900
00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:15,630
wouldn't update me beside
themselves. What are you going

901
00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:16,230
to do?

902
00:51:18,690 --> 00:51:21,390
Adam Curry: Nothing. I want to I
want to move on, but I'll keep

903
00:51:21,390 --> 00:51:25,590
it related as I moved to the
Supreme Court. This is very,

904
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,360
very interesting. What's what's
happening effect I have a the

905
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,720
Supreme Court is about to end
their session. So you know,

906
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:36,360
they're trying to wrap
everything up real quick.

907
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:38,970
John C Dvorak: Go on vacation,
basically. Yeah, it's

908
00:51:38,970 --> 00:51:41,130
Adam Curry: vague. It's called
vacation but they call ending

909
00:51:41,130 --> 00:51:45,540
the session. And let me see
where's the where's the SCOTUS

910
00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:46,350
clip here?

911
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:51,030
Unknown: Yes, this one I think
tonight Special Counsel Jack

912
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:52,620
Smith firing back again. This

913
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:54,450
Adam Curry: is not Supreme
Court. But it's the documents

914
00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:55,920
case. It's Donald Trump's claims

915
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,310
Unknown: FBI agents tampered
with boxes, allegedly containing

916
00:51:59,310 --> 00:52:02,490
classified material discovered
when they searched his Mar a

917
00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:06,120
Lago estate in a new court
filing prosecutors with their

918
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,050
most detailed description yet of
how Trump allegedly personally

919
00:52:10,050 --> 00:52:12,810
chose to keep documents
containing some of the nation's

920
00:52:12,810 --> 00:52:16,260
most highly guarded secrets
among a cluttered collection of

921
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:20,160
keepsakes including newspapers.
thank you notes, Christmas

922
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,240
ornaments, magazines, clothing,
and photographs of himself and

923
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,360
others of Trump's lawyers
claimed prosecutors have not

924
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,540
preserved the boxes in the exact
manner in which they were found

925
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:34,950
insisting they were manipulated.
Prosecutors say that's just not

926
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:38,250
true, saying the haphazard
manner in which the boxes were

927
00:52:38,250 --> 00:52:41,820
packed and stored by Trump made
it inevitable that the contents

928
00:52:41,820 --> 00:52:46,080
inside would shift. They blasted
Trump's claims as the latest

929
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:49,110
unfounded accusations against
law enforcement professionals

930
00:52:49,230 --> 00:52:53,340
doing their jobs. The case now
delayed indefinitely. As Judge

931
00:52:53,340 --> 00:52:56,430
Eileen cannon holds multiple
hearings on a wide array of

932
00:52:56,430 --> 00:53:00,510
motions. She has yet to rule on
many of them causing unusual

933
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:04,380
months long delays. And David
there was news tonight in an

934
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:07,650
unrelated case, the Manhattan
hush money trial. Oh,

935
00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:09,840
Adam Curry: sorry. I did that
didn't mean for that to be in

936
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,690
there. So yesterday. Yesterday.
Yeah, I think it was yesterday.

937
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:20,010
Yeah. All of a sudden the, you
know, the, the women of

938
00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:23,640
Fredericksburg text message
starts blowing up. Rip First

939
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,760
Amendment. We're done. Supreme
Court kills First Amendment

940
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:30,510
done. It's all over no more free
speech. What happened? What

941
00:53:30,510 --> 00:53:35,760
happened? You know, I doubt the
Supreme Court struck it out of

942
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,520
the amendments. I mean, what
happened? Well, this is what

943
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,110
happened and I have an analysis

944
00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:43,260
Unknown: today the Supreme Court
ruled against limiting how the

945
00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:46,710
White House contacts social
media companies, it's a win for

946
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:49,530
the Biden administration that
argued it should be able to

947
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:52,770
contact companies to address
misinformation especially

948
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,430
related to public health and
election integrity. And a six to

949
00:53:56,430 --> 00:53:59,730
three decision. The justices
throughout the case on standing

950
00:53:59,730 --> 00:54:02,970
meaning those who brought the
case didn't have legal standing.

951
00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:05,880
Justice Barrett, writing the
opinion saying we lacked

952
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,330
jurisdiction to reach the merits
of the dispute, Justice Alito

953
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:12,360
dissenting, saying this is one
of the most important free

954
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,500
speech cases to reach this court
in years. This all comes as the

955
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:20,190
Supreme Court hands down its
final decisions of the term, one

956
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,700
of the biggest cases of the year
Donald Trump's immunity claim,

957
00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:24,330
so

958
00:54:24,330 --> 00:54:28,380
Adam Curry: I'll stop there. So
this is the Missouri versus

959
00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:31,800
Biden case. I think actually
changed names later on. This is

960
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,560
how the both Trump but also the
Biden administration threatened

961
00:54:38,070 --> 00:54:41,820
social media companies to D
platform people to censor COVID

962
00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:44,790
misinformation and
disinformation. And I'm really

963
00:54:44,790 --> 00:54:48,270
disappointed especially in Amy
Coney Barrett, they you know,

964
00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:51,690
they they kind of punted on this
and said, Well, you know, you

965
00:54:51,690 --> 00:54:56,400
don't have standing in this,
which is kind of a kind of a cop

966
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,720
chicken shit they do it is so
the mature already, that's what

967
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:03,720
they did for the majority rule
under the Constitution, courts

968
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:06,300
lacked jurisdiction to hear
cases brought by people who

969
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:10,020
lacked standing. Now it was even
more interesting, because when

970
00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:12,870
it comes to injunctive relief, a
person cannot establish standing

971
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:17,160
unless he can show a danger of
future harm. This is because an

972
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,720
injunction doesn't remedy past
harm. And so what they're in

973
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:27,060
effect saying is that you can't
prove that you plaintiff will be

974
00:55:27,060 --> 00:55:31,500
harmed in the future by this,
and the social media companies

975
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:36,090
were already moderating content.
So the fact that the government

976
00:55:36,090 --> 00:55:40,380
came into that didn't mean that
it was something new. So it's a

977
00:55:40,380 --> 00:55:45,270
very disappointing ruling, I
think that they, you know,

978
00:55:46,110 --> 00:55:50,310
because the government does have
a scepter. You know, they do

979
00:55:50,310 --> 00:55:56,730
have section 230. They've got,
you know, antitrust, all kinds

980
00:55:56,730 --> 00:56:00,210
of things they can do to the
social media companies. So it

981
00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:04,170
will now go back to the district
court, plaintiffs can pursue an

982
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:08,490
injunction. We'll see if that if
anything becomes of that, but

983
00:56:08,850 --> 00:56:13,380
seems like you know, and by the
way, if you think that you have

984
00:56:13,410 --> 00:56:18,990
a freedom of speech on social
media, please, please, there's

985
00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:23,970
no way you should never expect
that there. They also ruled on

986
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:27,570
the Sacklers, which was
interesting. Now, the Sackler is

987
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:31,980
of course the family who owns
Purdue Pharma. And the Supreme

988
00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:35,640
Court has now said, you know,
what, the Sackler family cannot

989
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,390
escape liability. through Purdue
Pharma has oxy fueled

990
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:43,860
bankruptcy. So they are back on
the hook. That could be

991
00:56:44,970 --> 00:56:47,730
John C Dvorak: that could be fun
to watch. That will go on for

992
00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:49,800
the Sacklers. Well, no, I'm

993
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,220
Adam Curry: not related. And
finally, Chevron deference. We

994
00:56:53,220 --> 00:57:00,030
were hoping for a decision
today. Nearly Friday, we Yes, we

995
00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:03,900
may get it Friday, we don't
know. But there is there are

996
00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:08,220
high hopes that that Chevron
deference decision will be in

997
00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:11,340
favor of taking away the power
from the agencies.

998
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,490
John C Dvorak: But this so I got
into Congress that was gonna say

999
00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:15,540
this would be perfect.

1000
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:17,730
Adam Curry: To have that
decision tomorrow when

1001
00:57:17,730 --> 00:57:22,500
everyone's doing the memes and
and post debate analysis.

1002
00:57:22,530 --> 00:57:25,620
John C Dvorak: That's probably
the time to do it. Yeah. I got

1003
00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:30,270
into it. There's this one
pressure group that has been

1004
00:57:31,170 --> 00:57:35,070
pressuring you and pressuring
you? Well, I get, I get, you

1005
00:57:35,070 --> 00:57:39,180
know, there's just press
releases. And I called them up

1006
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:42,240
and I said, I did this on
background. I told them I wow,

1007
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:42,630
okay.

1008
00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:46,080
Adam Curry: Background, do you?
What do you deep state? Yeah.

1009
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:50,040
John C Dvorak: And so that's me.
So but no, I just want to hear

1010
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:55,860
the pitch. And so what is the
pitch about not killing Chevron

1011
00:57:55,860 --> 00:57:58,950
deference. And so this girl
calls me up, and she gives me

1012
00:57:58,950 --> 00:58:01,830
the pitch is, and it goes on
forever. And it's totally a

1013
00:58:01,830 --> 00:58:07,410
script. And I shot back at her
after she was done talking,

1014
00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:08,820
which took about 20 minutes.

1015
00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:12,480
Adam Curry: This is recent, this
past week yesterday. Oh, okay.

1016
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:13,770
And so

1017
00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:17,100
John C Dvorak: I said, Well, you
know, I worked for one of these

1018
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:20,340
agencies, pre Chevron deference
and everything you say is not

1019
00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:23,730
true. This and that. And she
did. I just had a list of stuff

1020
00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:26,520
I was writing down she said,
This is what's going to happen.

1021
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:30,120
And I said, it didn't happen
before. Why would it happen now?

1022
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,100
And I went on and I really got
mad at her.

1023
00:58:33,570 --> 00:58:34,680
Adam Curry: Record your side.

1024
00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:37,710
John C Dvorak: I didn't record
any of his background. I'm just

1025
00:58:37,710 --> 00:58:43,410
telling you the story. Okay. And
so but but she would not relent.

1026
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,030
And I told her that she all she
has I said take a look at this.

1027
00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:50,820
What's been going on since
Chevron deference has been a

1028
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:55,140
consolidation This was to be a
big anti Corporation operation

1029
00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:57,930
that's right pushing this so
what's been going on since

1030
00:58:57,930 --> 00:59:00,270
Chevron deference to
corporations have been getting

1031
00:59:00,270 --> 00:59:03,300
bigger and bigger and they've
been consolidating in the media

1032
00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:06,690
and elsewhere it's just all it's
it's gone in the exact opposite

1033
00:59:06,690 --> 00:59:09,630
direction that you expected to
go in. But this is what you're

1034
00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:13,410
still pushing show it to happens
even more. And then she pushes a

1035
00:59:13,410 --> 00:59:18,000
J appall build as calling out
that's called your race.

1036
00:59:18,030 --> 00:59:21,300
Adam Curry: Did she call you a
racist at any point? No, she

1037
00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:23,700
John C Dvorak: but she says Jay
Paul's got this assembly bill

1038
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:27,090
that which is going to put
Chevron deference into law

1039
00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:30,150
words. And I said all this is
doing is playing into the hands

1040
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:32,790
of the big corporations, you're
just a stooge and you're reading

1041
00:59:32,790 --> 00:59:35,730
a script that may as well have
been written by the big

1042
00:59:35,730 --> 00:59:39,240
corporations who are you
kidding? And she was very not

1043
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,180
happy with me but at the same
time, we didn't she didn't cuss

1044
00:59:42,180 --> 00:59:44,670
me out or anything but this is
what's going on. Is this

1045
00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:46,470
Adam Curry: how you talk to
girls is this what you're doing

1046
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:48,330
now? This is not the way to go?
JCD

1047
00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:55,440
John C Dvorak: wasn't looking
for a date. Anyway, so but this

1048
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,840
this pressure groups are out
there and I you know, you can

1049
00:59:57,870 --> 01:00:00,540
talk to them and see what they
have to say and you I know this

1050
01:00:00,540 --> 01:00:03,630
is terrible what they're up to.
They don't know what they're

1051
01:00:03,630 --> 01:00:07,920
doing. I said, Did you ever work
for an enforcement agency or a

1052
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:15,540
Ministry of State Agency? Well,
I was an intern at the FAA was

1053
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:19,680
an internet, the FCC. I said,
what you should notice anything

1054
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,850
that you integrate, I said, I
said, all these agencies are

1055
01:00:23,850 --> 01:00:27,720
been been captured. And she
actually admitted that she saw

1056
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,970
capture going on. There's

1057
01:00:29,970 --> 01:00:33,270
Unknown: capture going on here.
There's capture everywhere.

1058
01:00:33,330 --> 01:00:33,750
Yeah.

1059
01:00:34,350 --> 01:00:37,260
John C Dvorak: Well, I'll Oh,
this, this Chevron deference

1060
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:39,240
thing. It'll be interesting to
see how it shakes out.

1061
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,320
Adam Curry: I mean, I'll let him
slide on. On the Missouri versus

1062
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,710
Biden, if they do Chevron
deference, by the way, a lot of

1063
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:48,720
people are very skeptical. It's
like, oh, then the just the

1064
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,900
courts will do it in the courts.
And then the courts suck to win.

1065
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:52,590
Everything's No,

1066
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,780
John C Dvorak: this is what I
got into the argument about with

1067
01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:57,180
her, because she said the same
thing, or the courts are going

1068
01:00:57,180 --> 01:01:00,450
to be this. That's bullcrap.
When I was working, and it's

1069
01:01:00,510 --> 01:01:03,930
almost a decade with, with the
air pollution district, we had

1070
01:01:03,930 --> 01:01:06,870
to we had to go to court quite
more than once I went to the

1071
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:11,640
court and gave testimony and got
pretty good at it about certain

1072
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,190
things, but somebody really got
bent out of shape about the way

1073
01:01:14,190 --> 01:01:17,880
it was being enforced. They take
it to a judge. And okay, well,

1074
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,550
we can deal with that we'd
always when that didn't never

1075
01:01:20,550 --> 01:01:23,610
saw it was a problem. And it
didn't happen that often. It

1076
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:27,480
wasn't like daily. So I mean,
this whole thing is bold crap.

1077
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,820
You Chevron deference has got to
go. Have you seen

1078
01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:32,550
Adam Curry: some of these
candidates for judges that have

1079
01:01:32,550 --> 01:01:35,760
been going through Senate
confirmation hearings? It's

1080
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,570
amazing.

1081
01:01:37,290 --> 01:01:38,940
John C Dvorak: You gotta get
Trump back in there. Because

1082
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:41,610
these these people they're
putting in are terrible. They

1083
01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:43,950
Adam Curry: really are like,
Yeah, you know, the guy

1084
01:01:44,820 --> 01:01:48,120
sodomized a four year old game a
couple of years, you know, poor

1085
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,890
guy. Clearly it was poor guy.
Poor guy. What? Yeah, yeah, how

1086
01:01:52,890 --> 01:01:57,450
far we've fallen. I want to go
back to some cheap fakes. I got

1087
01:01:57,450 --> 01:02:00,240
some AI stuff, which deserves
discussion,

1088
01:02:00,270 --> 01:02:02,760
Unknown: I want to make a bit of
a turn in our conversation to

1089
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,560
something that we've been
wanting to talk about on the

1090
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,200
show for a little bit and a
little bit just to be totally

1091
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,020
transparent, trying to figure
out how to do it. And when I say

1092
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:16,470
it, it is a lot of memes. And
what the White House is calling

1093
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:18,630
cheap fakes. Which means Oh,

1094
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:21,510
Adam Curry: whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, that's not true.

1095
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,890
According to jurien, the media
made that up, not the White

1096
01:02:25,890 --> 01:02:28,170
House, get your story straight,
Dana IIMs.

1097
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,170
Unknown: And what the White
House is calling cheap fakes.

1098
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,460
Which means that these are there
are videos that are being put

1099
01:02:35,460 --> 01:02:38,550
out on social media and then
amplified on conservative media,

1100
01:02:39,030 --> 01:02:42,540
that in some cases are just not
right. And in other cases are

1101
01:02:42,540 --> 01:02:49,170
highlighted, right. It's not
right of President Biden. And I

1102
01:02:49,170 --> 01:02:54,240
don't want to go, I don't want
to let a day go by where I can

1103
01:02:54,690 --> 01:02:57,330
read a tweet from Barbra
Streisand on the show. So I'm

1104
01:02:57,330 --> 01:02:57,960
gonna do it.

1105
01:02:59,310 --> 01:03:03,000
Adam Curry: And she said, why
did why would everyone all get

1106
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:08,850
Oh, get GT over reading a tweet
from Barbra Streisand. I would

1107
01:03:08,850 --> 01:03:11,430
never pass that opportunity up,
go

1108
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:14,520
Unknown: by where I can read a
tweet from Barbra Streisand on

1109
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:20,310
the show. So I'm gonna do it.
She said, We must stay vigilant

1110
01:03:20,430 --> 01:03:23,820
to the ongoing and pervasive
spread of misinformation, maybe

1111
01:03:23,820 --> 01:03:27,030
now more than usual, in the lead
up to the presidential election.

1112
01:03:27,030 --> 01:03:31,200
And her argument was, Don't
amplify it. It is interesting,

1113
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,740
given the fact that there she
there was a famous case, where

1114
01:03:34,740 --> 01:03:38,700
somebody took a picture of her
house in Malibu, and she seemed

1115
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:42,810
to not have that shown. And then
it turned out that people

1116
01:03:42,810 --> 01:03:45,360
started looking at the picture
more than before. So it's, it's

1117
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,060
the question that I started this
conversation with is how much to

1118
01:03:48,060 --> 01:03:52,050
talk about it, versus how much
to just kind of ignore it. And

1119
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,120
we're trying to kind of do both
here. So

1120
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,950
Adam Curry: I thought that was
interesting, because here we

1121
01:03:55,950 --> 01:04:00,180
have the media, of course,
playing ball for, for the

1122
01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:05,250
Democrats and for, for Biden,
saying, you know, you know, what

1123
01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:09,330
I'm hearing is, you know,
jurien, you should kind of calm

1124
01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:11,460
down a little bit with the cheap
fakes. Because, you know,

1125
01:04:11,490 --> 01:04:14,790
obviously, we all know that that
was real. And now you're

1126
01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:17,580
creating a Streisand effect,
where people are now going and

1127
01:04:17,580 --> 01:04:20,820
seeking it out and looking for
it and copying it and retweeting

1128
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,620
and it's hurting our man, you

1129
01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:27,390
Unknown: have a 78 year old and
an 82, I rolled 81 year old. And

1130
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:32,160
we have lots of examples of both
of them. Maybe Trump's aren't

1131
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,490
played as much, but both of them
appearing to to use your words,

1132
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,400
lose a step. That's one thing.
The other thing is to take

1133
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,430
something that actually
happened, and make it look worse

1134
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:45,450
than it is. And listen, the
Trump campaign is going to do

1135
01:04:45,450 --> 01:04:49,980
this and voters are going to see
it. They're going to imbibe this

1136
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:54,510
and not necessarily know that
it's a it's a real, stupid Biden

1137
01:04:54,510 --> 01:04:58,230
team trying to counteract this,
but I think the problem is to

1138
01:04:58,230 --> 01:05:01,830
the Streisand example, in fact,
Checking it, do you amplify it?

1139
01:05:01,860 --> 01:05:05,490
Right? Right Thing? Is this the
thing that you're talking about?

1140
01:05:05,490 --> 01:05:06,420
And then you go see it.

1141
01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:07,740
So it's a real problem. But

1142
01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:10,080
I think at the core there is
this problem with both of these

1143
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,390
candidates in terms of age and
perception. Yeah, okay,

1144
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:12,780
fine.

1145
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:18,120
John C Dvorak: So before you go,
before you go on, didn't

1146
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,210
Streisand? She's talking about
misinformation. Streisand is

1147
01:05:21,210 --> 01:05:25,290
right. Yes. Didn't she say she
was going to leave the country

1148
01:05:25,470 --> 01:05:27,690
in 2016 If Trump got elected,
that

1149
01:05:27,690 --> 01:05:29,880
Adam Curry: was aI man, she
never said that. That was a

1150
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,930
cheap fake. She

1151
01:05:30,930 --> 01:05:33,270
John C Dvorak: did say it then
she didn't leave the country. So

1152
01:05:33,330 --> 01:05:37,080
is that misinformation to it? As
she said, She's full of it.

1153
01:05:37,530 --> 01:05:41,340
Adam Curry: I wonder if we do we
have Streisand sang she's gonna

1154
01:05:41,340 --> 01:05:42,030
leave.

1155
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,870
John C Dvorak: It'd be hard to
find it'd be hard to categorize.

1156
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:50,100
Adam Curry: There would be
Streisand leaving. Everybody was

1157
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:53,250
leaving. Even Miley Cyrus was
leaving. Well, they're

1158
01:05:53,250 --> 01:05:53,910
John C Dvorak: all leaving

1159
01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:58,080
Adam Curry: nobody left. Yeah,
exactly. So there's some

1160
01:05:58,170 --> 01:06:01,740
interesting developments and
also we've got a lot of boots on

1161
01:06:01,740 --> 01:06:07,650
the ground regarding AI. How is
invidious so holding up the

1162
01:06:07,650 --> 01:06:11,670
whole stock market? I didn't get
a chance to listen to DHL plug

1163
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:14,100
is still the biggest company in
the world with $3 trillion.

1164
01:06:14,820 --> 01:06:16,920
John C Dvorak: They would that
was only a moment to know Oh,

1165
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,220
no. They they they slid they
slipped number two now number

1166
01:06:20,220 --> 01:06:22,980
two but is there right there?
They're right there there any

1167
01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:26,670
other 10 points so they'll be on
top again on the

1168
01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:31,230
Adam Curry: cost? Well, NBC went
to talk to tech titan Sam

1169
01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:35,190
Altman, who is amazing. This guy
can talk for hours and say

1170
01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:41,160
absolutely nothing. It's it is
an IT skill. Well, it is

1171
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,710
Unknown: a Silicon Valley skill
out of a gathering here in

1172
01:06:43,710 --> 01:06:46,530
Colorado, the Aspen Ideas
Festival.

1173
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,400
Adam Curry: Where's my invites
to the Aspen Ideas Festival.

1174
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:50,670
Today

1175
01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:53,010
Unknown: I sat down with two of
the biggest names in the world

1176
01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:57,000
is Foo Fighters playing
technology and business. Sam

1177
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,650
Altman, CEO of open AI and his
ally and friend Brian Chesky,

1178
01:07:01,650 --> 01:07:05,970
CEO of Airbnb, to talk about the
promise and the risks of

1179
01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:09,600
artificial intelligence. Open AI
has stunned people with its

1180
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,860
capabilities like video creation
from simple text prompts

1181
01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:16,320
Adam Curry: hook where did this
guy come from? you've ever heard

1182
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:21,150
this guy on NBC? What a voice
Hey, open AI has stood and

1183
01:07:21,150 --> 01:07:21,810
everybody to

1184
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:26,940
John C Dvorak: 55 psi smoking
Marlboros.

1185
01:07:26,970 --> 01:07:30,150
Unknown: AI has stunned people
with its capabilities, like

1186
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:33,540
maybe an AI voice. Now they
think about video creation from

1187
01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:35,880
simple text prompts with omens,

1188
01:07:36,780 --> 01:07:40,590
John C Dvorak: like Lester Holt,
then it is less enjoyed. It's

1189
01:07:40,590 --> 01:07:41,400
less the adult

1190
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,460
Unknown: students for his
company go much further

1191
01:07:44,550 --> 01:07:47,520
comparing it to the Manhattan
Project Development of the

1192
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,720
atomic bomb. Was that helpful
for you as you try to make your

1193
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,170
case?

1194
01:07:53,550 --> 01:07:59,250
I mean, we try to give a number
of historical analogies because

1195
01:07:59,250 --> 01:08:02,130
we think it is important. So we
can say there were some things

1196
01:08:02,130 --> 01:08:03,840
about the Manhattan projects
that are like what we're doing.

1197
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,420
Now, there's some things about
the Apollo program. There's some

1198
01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:06,930
things about the

1199
01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:10,350
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Just for
context. Could you buy

1200
01:08:10,350 --> 01:08:14,250
grandiose? Well, this is this is
the whole pitch. This is the

1201
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:17,700
whole idea. You can only trust
us. You can't trust anyone else.

1202
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:21,570
It's so big, so fast. By the
way, it needs government

1203
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,690
involvement as the Manhattan
Project. Could you just give us

1204
01:08:24,690 --> 01:08:27,090
a quick background on the
Manhattan Project?

1205
01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:31,440
John C Dvorak: Of the Manhattan
Project, which was basically

1206
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:36,300
created entire city in the
middle of nowhere and down in

1207
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:40,170
the desert, the Oppenheimer
movie, and up it Yeah, the

1208
01:08:40,170 --> 01:08:43,860
Oppenheimer movie describes it
pretty well. Yeah, just go

1209
01:08:43,860 --> 01:08:44,520
watch. That

1210
01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:47,790
Unknown: is because we think it
is important. So we can say

1211
01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:49,890
there were some things about the
Manhattan projects that are like

1212
01:08:49,890 --> 01:08:52,140
what we're doing. Now, there's
some things about like, what

1213
01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:53,310
program there's nothing,

1214
01:08:53,310 --> 01:08:55,290
Adam Curry: there's nothing like
the Manhattan project that we're

1215
01:08:55,290 --> 01:09:00,390
doing now. Nothing, no one's
going to die. And in no way was

1216
01:09:00,390 --> 01:09:02,280
the Manhattan Project worth $3
trillion

1217
01:09:02,849 --> 01:09:05,609
Unknown: is important. So we can
say there were some things about

1218
01:09:05,609 --> 01:09:07,349
the Manhattan projects that are
like what we're doing. Now,

1219
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:09,719
there's some things about the
Apollo program. There's some

1220
01:09:09,719 --> 01:09:12,689
things about the iPhone. But
what I think is important is to

1221
01:09:12,689 --> 01:09:16,469
say, the iPhone, the parts where
we can look to historical

1222
01:09:16,469 --> 01:09:19,619
analogy, and here are the parts
where we can't, okay, here it

1223
01:09:19,619 --> 01:09:23,309
comes standby and the shape of
this technology and kind of the

1224
01:09:23,309 --> 01:09:26,729
decisions and the impact. It is
fundamentally a little bit

1225
01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:28,709
different than anything. I think
it's different than the

1226
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:31,889
Manhattan Project. It's not a
race is not going to be done in

1227
01:09:31,889 --> 01:09:35,489
secret. I think nations can
collaborate together and there

1228
01:09:35,489 --> 01:09:39,359
could be a transnational kind of
group or body that could really

1229
01:09:39,389 --> 01:09:42,239
kind of align to make sure we're
all on the same page. We think

1230
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:44,939
that's super important to get to
get some sort of

1231
01:09:44,939 --> 01:09:46,019
freeway stop.

1232
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:50,850
John C Dvorak: Was that the
Airbnb yakking away there? as

1233
01:09:51,210 --> 01:09:53,160
well? She got to do with
anything. Oh,

1234
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,340
Adam Curry: he's a tech titan
and he's at the festival. Hello.

1235
01:09:56,910 --> 01:09:59,970
Hey, I've got a gig today with
Sam at the tech Titans.

1236
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,770
festival, oh my God

1237
01:10:01,860 --> 01:10:04,770
Unknown: together and there
could be a transnational kind of

1238
01:10:04,770 --> 01:10:07,890
group or body that could really
kind of align to make sure we're

1239
01:10:07,890 --> 01:10:12,120
all on the same page. We think
that's super important to get a

1240
01:10:12,510 --> 01:10:14,100
global framework and cooperation
by

1241
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:15,840
John C Dvorak: the way, stop,
stop, stop a guy hate that.

1242
01:10:16,050 --> 01:10:19,200
Adam Curry: I'm almost done. But
I'll stop. I'll stop. But

1243
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,770
John C Dvorak: this isn't the
classic Silicon Valley phrase.

1244
01:10:23,010 --> 01:10:24,480
Super important.

1245
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,240
Adam Curry: It's not just
important. It's not important,

1246
01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:27,960
or

1247
01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:31,080
John C Dvorak: super important
because that's a that's a high

1248
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,330
end Silicon Valley phrase,
believe me.

1249
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,940
Adam Curry: No, I know. I've
been around it. You heard it.

1250
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,150
You know, it was also super
important. juiced. Remember that

1251
01:10:39,180 --> 01:10:44,910
juiced? Yeah, J O S juice. Yeah,
juice juice. Those guys. Yeah,

1252
01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:48,270
you know, as created by the guys
who created Skype, super

1253
01:10:48,270 --> 01:10:54,720
important, super important. This
is all we changed pod show to me

1254
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,470
vo to video because of juiced
and because Kleiner Perkins

1255
01:10:58,470 --> 01:11:03,030
forced us to do it. That's the
That's the truth. Is that right?

1256
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:07,350
Yes. There was that woman's
name. So you had pod show, which

1257
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:10,290
John C Dvorak: was the original
operation? I think that's when I

1258
01:11:10,290 --> 01:11:11,190
went to work for you.

1259
01:11:11,610 --> 01:11:14,520
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
We're still poncho. Yes. You are

1260
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,500
my man. I hired you. You are my
hire.

1261
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,720
John C Dvorak: Well, I soldier
on me.

1262
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,420
Adam Curry: You bet you
buffaloed me?

1263
01:11:21,780 --> 01:11:25,200
John C Dvorak: I did. I took you
did I took you to lunch it

1264
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,390
Adam Curry: bring God I paid for
it. This is the worst.

1265
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:31,800
John C Dvorak: And I sold you
did by the way. People always

1266
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,710
talk about you know, all these
get jobs do this and that. And

1267
01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:39,690
the way you do it is with
interpersonal sales. And you

1268
01:11:40,170 --> 01:11:42,960
learn about podcasting because
what was going on at the time

1269
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:49,080
2006 2007. And so I had to get
it. I had to figure it out. But

1270
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,530
the way you learn is by doing as
opposed to just you know,

1271
01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:58,830
screwing around. So I sold you
on hiring me. And it was pretty

1272
01:11:58,830 --> 01:12:01,770
it was an a it wasn't that hard
to do. Well, you're you're a

1273
01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:03,210
soft touch. But to

1274
01:12:03,210 --> 01:12:05,940
Adam Curry: be fair, you were a
couple of glasses of wine helps.

1275
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:11,910
Yeah, you are the poncho dei
hire. So yeah. Oh, luck. It all

1276
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:13,410
worked out me. Nations

1277
01:12:13,410 --> 01:12:15,510
Unknown: can collaborate
together. And there could be a

1278
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:19,350
transnational kind of group or
body that could really kind of

1279
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:21,810
aligned to make sure we're all
on the same page. We think

1280
01:12:21,810 --> 01:12:25,320
that's super important to get to
get some sort of global

1281
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,710
framework and cooperation. We're
really gonna need that.

1282
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:33,450
Adam Curry: We need to write the
Silicon Valley bullcrap

1283
01:12:33,450 --> 01:12:38,550
dictionary. Of all these terms,
I forgotten most of

1284
01:12:38,580 --> 01:12:40,860
John C Dvorak: writing a book
like that'd be super important.

1285
01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:44,700
Adam Curry: It would be
Manhattan level, Manhattan

1286
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:48,780
project level. Definitely.
Regarding AI, there is there's

1287
01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:51,090
an interesting development in
first some boots on the ground,

1288
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:54,210
because we talked about the
power requirements. This is, of

1289
01:12:54,210 --> 01:12:58,440
course, this is what Nvidia is
actually doing is creating these

1290
01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:02,640
chips that just suck the power
and everything needs. If only we

1291
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,530
had $100 billion, then AI would
work. If only we had a trillion

1292
01:13:07,530 --> 01:13:10,800
dollars, it would work if we
only had $7 trillion. It would

1293
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:16,230
work. First the the Scott says,
Hey,

1294
01:13:16,290 --> 01:13:19,170
John C Dvorak: we see a trend
here. Yes. I

1295
01:13:19,170 --> 01:13:21,000
Adam Curry: was listening to
Episode 16. Seven, you want to

1296
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,850
wanted to offer an educated
guess as to why the data center

1297
01:13:23,850 --> 01:13:28,140
legislation was a big deal in
Virginia. He says he believes

1298
01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:31,680
that has to do with Amazon's HQ
two data center that's being

1299
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,540
built there. And that's
essentially across the street

1300
01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:38,070
from the Pentagon. So that would
make sense because if you read

1301
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:41,490
the boots on the ground from our
DC night of the high desert, he

1302
01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:44,850
says I lived in Princeville,
Oregon right next to the

1303
01:13:44,850 --> 01:13:47,550
Facebook and Apple data centers
that they've been building for

1304
01:13:47,550 --> 01:13:50,700
over a decade, the city of
Princeville Prineville

1305
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:55,860
Princeville residences saw a
200% increase in their Pacific

1306
01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:59,160
power utility bill once the data
center was up and running.

1307
01:14:00,390 --> 01:14:01,260
Unknown: About that.

1308
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,100
John C Dvorak: No one talks he's
had a bunch of utility bill

1309
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:08,010
hikes here in California too. I
wonder what's going on.

1310
01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:14,220
Adam Curry: And then we have
anonymous and immediate family

1311
01:14:14,220 --> 01:14:17,190
members and executive at a large
diversified electric and gas

1312
01:14:17,190 --> 01:14:20,700
utility. I love our producers.
It just hey, just call your

1313
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,180
family you'll get answers for
us. Data Center power demands

1314
01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:28,740
has providers in a panic. The
enormous power usage cannot be

1315
01:14:28,740 --> 01:14:32,130
overstated. Even nuclear power
generation has difficulty

1316
01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:36,270
keeping up. I believe Amazon
uses about a third of the power

1317
01:14:36,270 --> 01:14:39,690
generated by the Sasquatch and a
nuclear plant in Pennsylvania.

1318
01:14:39,870 --> 01:14:43,200
It's exponential and not
scalable. Of course, none of

1319
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,230
this stuff is scalable. But
here's the cool thing. Ars

1320
01:14:46,230 --> 01:14:49,650
Technica, I think Ars Technica
is pretty good. Do we know the

1321
01:14:49,650 --> 01:14:51,150
guys at Ars Technica, do

1322
01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:53,190
John C Dvorak: we? I don't know.
I don't think they listen to the

1323
01:14:53,190 --> 01:14:59,730
show or anything but but Ars
Technica screwy information

1324
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,810
Yeah, you dropped

1325
01:15:00,810 --> 01:15:02,040
Adam Curry: out Ars Technica
what

1326
01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:07,950
John C Dvorak: I said, I'm
sorry, Ars Technica is a good

1327
01:15:07,950 --> 01:15:11,190
source of screwy, screwy
information that seems to be

1328
01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:12,690
accurate. So

1329
01:15:13,230 --> 01:15:15,570
Adam Curry: they have this
article that came out

1330
01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:20,610
researchers up end AI status quo
by eliminating matrix

1331
01:15:20,610 --> 01:15:27,390
multiplication in MLMs. And I
wasn't quite clear what that

1332
01:15:27,390 --> 01:15:31,050
meant. But here's some excerpts
research claim researchers

1333
01:15:31,050 --> 01:15:34,500
claimed have developed a new way
to run AI language models more

1334
01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:38,190
efficiently by eliminating
matrix multiplication from the

1335
01:15:38,190 --> 01:15:42,060
process. This fundamentally
redesigns neural network

1336
01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:47,820
operations that are currently
accelerated by GPU chips. And if

1337
01:15:47,820 --> 01:15:53,280
you read down further it says
this ability. So the actually

1338
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,300
here mult matrix multiplication,
often abbreviated to map mall is

1339
01:15:57,300 --> 01:16:00,000
at the center of most neural
network computational tasks.

1340
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,060
GPUs are particularly good at
executing the math quickly

1341
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:05,370
because they can perform large
numbers of multiplication

1342
01:16:05,370 --> 01:16:08,610
operations in parallel. That
ability momentarily made

1343
01:16:08,610 --> 01:16:11,190
invidia, the most valuable
company in the world last week,

1344
01:16:11,310 --> 01:16:15,360
the company currently holds an
estimated 90% market share for

1345
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,170
the data center GPUs now in this
new paper, titled scalable

1346
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,620
MathML free language modeling,
the researchers described

1347
01:16:22,620 --> 01:16:27,060
creating a custom 2.7 billion
parameter model without using

1348
01:16:27,060 --> 01:16:30,270
mat mall that features a similar
performance to conventional

1349
01:16:30,270 --> 01:16:34,110
large language models. And they
demonstrate running a 1.3

1350
01:16:34,110 --> 01:16:38,820
billion parameter model at 23.8
tokens per second on a GPU that

1351
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:43,800
was accelerated by an FPGA chip
that uses only 13 watts of

1352
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:52,170
power. This could blow up in
video Well,

1353
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:56,190
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
to make of that. Yeah, if

1354
01:16:56,190 --> 01:16:58,890
there's true I mean, it seems to
me that everything could be

1355
01:16:58,890 --> 01:17:02,160
blown up. If you just have some
guys out there that know what

1356
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,410
they're doing. Yes, change the
math.

1357
01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:06,690
Adam Curry: Well, they
essentially doing without math

1358
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,160
like yeah, we don't take you

1359
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,290
John C Dvorak: without that type
of math, which I guess is

1360
01:17:10,290 --> 01:17:14,550
necessary to create whatever
they're doing. I'm not I'm on

1361
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:18,420
familiar with it, but it's
obviously at the core of the

1362
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:21,180
whole thing. And so somebody
just did a workaround and said,

1363
01:17:21,180 --> 01:17:24,270
Hey, you don't need this
bullcrap. You can run us a run

1364
01:17:24,270 --> 01:17:25,290
Adam Curry: on a Beelink

1365
01:17:28,050 --> 01:17:30,570
John C Dvorak: there's your
call. This goes out. There's

1366
01:17:30,570 --> 01:17:31,200
your callback

1367
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:34,530
Adam Curry: until your hard disk
crashes. Yeah, exactly. I don't

1368
01:17:34,530 --> 01:17:39,750
know I love seeing that stuff.
Like oh, because I just I just

1369
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:41,160
want to see it fall apart.

1370
01:17:41,850 --> 01:17:43,950
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know you
do but it's gonna fall apart

1371
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:45,270
whether you Is that

1372
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:48,390
Adam Curry: wrong of one way or
wrong? I mean, I want to see

1373
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:50,040
that fall apart. Is that bad?

1374
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:53,550
John C Dvorak: It is I think
you're you're you're a hater.

1375
01:17:53,580 --> 01:17:57,690
That's what it is. I am wells
exhibiting your hatred of

1376
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,620
anything that you're not
involved in? No, that's just a I

1377
01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:02,970
think it's a personality has

1378
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:06,030
Adam Curry: nothing to do that
has nothing to do with it. A

1379
01:18:06,180 --> 01:18:09,390
thought AI was dumb from the
beginning. I my record stands.

1380
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:10,260
Yeah,

1381
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,690
John C Dvorak: I'm not you're
definitely consistent.

1382
01:18:12,750 --> 01:18:15,120
Unknown: Also new this morning.
major record labels are taking a

1383
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,880
stand against AI and the
industry the Recording Industry

1384
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,330
Association of America has filed
a lawsuit against AI music

1385
01:18:21,330 --> 01:18:24,750
companies suno and udio.
alleging copyright infringement.

1386
01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:28,200
The trade group represents some
titans in the industry, Sony

1387
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,320
universal and Warner records.
The suit claims that companies

1388
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,710
illegally copied recordings to
train their systems to produce

1389
01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:37,950
copyrighted music. This comes
after more than 200 artists

1390
01:18:37,950 --> 01:18:41,670
signed a letter in April calling
on AI companies to stop using

1391
01:18:41,670 --> 01:18:45,240
technology that takes away their
rights udio and suno have not

1392
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,860
yet responded to the lawsuit.

1393
01:18:47,310 --> 01:18:49,980
Adam Curry: This is good man
that's you know stuff is

1394
01:18:49,980 --> 01:18:53,940
actually not bad. I've heard
some songs that came off that

1395
01:18:53,940 --> 01:18:55,920
like all right, but the last
well

1396
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,530
John C Dvorak: it hits hits,
hits it was kind of like the hit

1397
01:18:58,530 --> 01:19:01,560
and miss of a regular singer
song right. Exactly,

1398
01:19:01,590 --> 01:19:05,280
Adam Curry: exactly. It has to
do with promotion has to do with

1399
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,310
all kinds of things it can even
the weather can can determine a

1400
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:11,640
hit if if people could create
hits, they will be doing it

1401
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:12,150
already.

1402
01:19:13,290 --> 01:19:17,490
John C Dvorak: Then which used
to be this funny show on it was

1403
01:19:17,490 --> 01:19:20,760
on PBS or someplace it was a it
was a sit down with these

1404
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,570
various producers and directors
and and when Peter Guber had

1405
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:30,300
owned Sony I would not so but he
was running Sony's movies

1406
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:33,930
division, it was kind of
scandalous era goober the

1407
01:19:33,930 --> 01:19:40,350
lawyer. No Peter Guber the
producer, oh, and he would he

1408
01:19:40,350 --> 01:19:43,110
said that after the first year
they did a bunch of these movies

1409
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:47,130
and he says, and the Japanese
had took him into view to the

1410
01:19:47,130 --> 01:19:49,680
board meeting okay, what is your
work had you to accomplish

1411
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,100
anything he says, Well, we had
this movie was a fail and this

1412
01:19:53,100 --> 01:19:55,560
was the fail this this movie did
well in this movie do well in

1413
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,650
these other five movies failed?
And they said, Well, I don't

1414
01:19:58,650 --> 01:20:01,050
understand what you're doing
because why? Let's just do more

1415
01:20:01,050 --> 01:20:03,210
of these. Which

1416
01:20:04,890 --> 01:20:08,850
Adam Curry: I remember that used
to be at think new ideas, the

1417
01:20:08,850 --> 01:20:14,460
company that I had before me vo
before the.com crash. And we'd

1418
01:20:14,460 --> 01:20:17,910
have clients come to us and say,
Okay, we have here's what we

1419
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:19,560
want. We want a viral video.

1420
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:23,280
John C Dvorak: Like, I remember
this era, by the way, yeah.

1421
01:20:23,370 --> 01:20:27,300
Adam Curry: Can you make that go
viral? No, no, that's not really

1422
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:30,240
how it works. Yeah, we want a
viral video. This is what

1423
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,390
everyone's doing it now you
gotta have something funny. To

1424
01:20:33,390 --> 01:20:35,790
be a viral video. It's

1425
01:20:35,790 --> 01:20:39,990
John C Dvorak: got to catch on
is no way. That would do what's

1426
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:42,930
going on with Trump right now in
these anti Biden videos, which

1427
01:20:42,930 --> 01:20:47,220
are being done by hordes of
pretty much from what I can tell

1428
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:51,660
volunteers doing these things on
their own, and pumping them into

1429
01:20:51,660 --> 01:20:54,690
the Twitter and whatever
everywhere in Stein everywhere

1430
01:20:54,690 --> 01:20:57,420
pumping him into everything.
This is the end. A lot of them

1431
01:20:57,420 --> 01:20:59,880
are catching on. A lot of them
aren't. But this is the only way

1432
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,300
you can do it. And it's not
something you can control. So

1433
01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:05,790
nobody's doing on the Biden
side. No,

1434
01:21:05,790 --> 01:21:08,460
Adam Curry: they can't. There's
something funny, they have no

1435
01:21:08,460 --> 01:21:11,880
humor. That's right. They have
no humor. It's really odd.

1436
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,950
Because Americans have humor in
general. We're funny. And the

1437
01:21:17,190 --> 01:21:20,160
left and right used to be funny
on both sides. What happened?

1438
01:21:20,670 --> 01:21:22,260
What happened? When did that
change?

1439
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,200
Unknown: It's like a like a
brain

1440
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,390
John C Dvorak: blur. You know,
it's it was a slow I think it's

1441
01:21:27,390 --> 01:21:29,730
been a slow thing. It's been
slow rain

1442
01:21:29,730 --> 01:21:34,440
Adam Curry: cork. So here's your
analogy. A lot of people sent in

1443
01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:39,270
a lot of thoughtful responses to
what caused the video game crash

1444
01:21:39,660 --> 01:21:45,150
in the 80s. And you saw them you
saw a lot of these. Yeah, the

1445
01:21:45,150 --> 01:21:49,350
one thing that's very consistent
is the failure of the E T game.

1446
01:21:49,380 --> 01:21:53,820
Everybody has that as a part of
it. And didn't they just didn't

1447
01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:58,950
they go and did they? Did they
destroy them in the desert or

1448
01:21:58,950 --> 01:22:02,040
something or throw them into a
landfill in New Mexico and

1449
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:02,580
crushed

1450
01:22:02,730 --> 01:22:07,530
John C Dvorak: more than one
example losers' finding a dump,

1451
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:11,940
and then taking 1000s and 1000s
of cartridges and putting them

1452
01:22:11,940 --> 01:22:12,390
in there?

1453
01:22:12,420 --> 01:22:15,750
Adam Curry: I think it was, it
was a new story even. Yeah,

1454
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:18,870
John C Dvorak: but that wasn't
the only game that was put in

1455
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:22,710
the landfill. But yes, the E T
game and I think the problem

1456
01:22:22,710 --> 01:22:30,600
was, it was overhyped. It was no
good. And, and people lost

1457
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:35,460
confidence in the whole system
went because I, you can if you

1458
01:22:35,460 --> 01:22:39,450
take in, you trick people into
thinking something's good,

1459
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:43,320
through marketing and through
hype and through whatever. And

1460
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,390
then they're no good at that
thing. This is happening to

1461
01:22:45,390 --> 01:22:47,130
Biden, by the way. Well,

1462
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,230
Adam Curry: wouldn't it be cool
to get really irked about it,

1463
01:22:49,230 --> 01:22:52,440
it'd be cool if had to throw all
those NVIDIA GPUs into a big

1464
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:55,080
landfill and crush them with a
bulldozer.

1465
01:22:56,820 --> 01:23:00,210
John C Dvorak: I think hobbyists
would grab that. Oh, yeah, my

1466
01:23:00,210 --> 01:23:00,420
mom.

1467
01:23:00,690 --> 01:23:04,110
Adam Curry: Of course, they're
lots of fun to play with. And

1468
01:23:04,110 --> 01:23:06,540
then the final this, I think
this is quite troublesome,

1469
01:23:06,540 --> 01:23:09,660
particularly for podcasters for
presidential candidates. For

1470
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:12,510
anybody. This is an AI
development, which is a very big

1471
01:23:12,510 --> 01:23:13,200
problem on

1472
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,330
Unknown: the medical is
detecting Alzheimer's by

1473
01:23:15,330 --> 01:23:19,080
listening to the way someone
speaks. A new AI tool has the

1474
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,200
power. Boston University
researchers used a machine

1475
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,920
learning model to analyze speech
patterns with a high degree of

1476
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,860
accuracy, they were able to
predict whether someone with

1477
01:23:28,860 --> 01:23:32,640
mild cognitive impairment would
develop Alzheimer's dementia

1478
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,970
within six years. Typically,
assessments to diagnose

1479
01:23:35,970 --> 01:23:39,240
Alzheimer's do not come back in
time to make meaningful

1480
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,930
decisions about interventions to
slow the progression of the mind

1481
01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:47,370
robbing disease. The AI program
was nearly 80% accurate in

1482
01:23:47,370 --> 01:23:51,300
determining whether someone
would remain stable or fall into

1483
01:23:51,300 --> 01:23:53,760
dementia associated with
Alzheimer's. We

1484
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,860
Adam Curry: need to do some of
this work. This is here's an

1485
01:23:55,860 --> 01:23:56,340
exit.

1486
01:23:56,850 --> 01:23:59,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know, I
think Hold on a second. And you

1487
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:05,070
know, I think that this entire
story is a plan to is to hurt

1488
01:24:05,070 --> 01:24:08,730
Adam Curry: Biden, some well
hurt anybody, anybody you want.

1489
01:24:08,730 --> 01:24:09,030
No, I

1490
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:11,700
John C Dvorak: think this is a
Biden. This is another one of

1491
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:16,290
these weird, targeted anti Biden
things that's going on right

1492
01:24:16,290 --> 01:24:19,470
now. Just because of
association. You start talking

1493
01:24:19,470 --> 01:24:22,710
about oh, AI can spot
Alzheimer's and just over never

1494
01:24:22,710 --> 01:24:24,780
mentioned Biden, of course,
good, but it's the first thing

1495
01:24:24,780 --> 01:24:28,050
you think that's the weird thing
is this is bullcrap.

1496
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,910
Adam Curry: That's the weird
thing. The associations Oh,

1497
01:24:29,940 --> 01:24:30,930
Biden. Yeah.

1498
01:24:31,500 --> 01:24:33,270
John C Dvorak: At best first
thing and I thought, I'm going

1499
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:35,220
to story start playing but if
you have

1500
01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:38,460
Adam Curry: that kind of voice
recognition, or the illusion of

1501
01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:41,850
that kind of recognition can be
all kinds of cool stuff. You

1502
01:24:41,850 --> 01:24:43,170
know, will you turn into an axe?

1503
01:24:43,170 --> 01:24:46,440
John C Dvorak: Well, you can use
it as a as a lie detector.

1504
01:24:46,770 --> 01:24:47,580
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, you

1505
01:24:47,850 --> 01:24:50,130
John C Dvorak: might pose idli
these computers have done years

1506
01:24:50,130 --> 01:24:53,550
ago, there's Oh yeah, we got
this situation here and you can

1507
01:24:53,550 --> 01:24:56,400
talk into the computer and we
can tell if you're lying. You

1508
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:56,760
can take

1509
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,040
Adam Curry: your teenage girls
and you say okay, talking here.

1510
01:24:59,070 --> 01:25:03,720
Oh, you're a boy. way, there it
is. And with that, I'd like to

1511
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,730
thank you for your courage
saying the morning to you the

1512
01:25:05,730 --> 01:25:08,760
man who put the scene Captain
chaos say hello to my friend on

1513
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,190
the other end the one and only
Mr. Jobs.

1514
01:25:14,219 --> 01:25:16,649
John C Dvorak: In the morning it
was Adam curry and you gave him

1515
01:25:16,649 --> 01:25:19,649
a gigantic agenda. Yes. Warren
Davidson is out there. Wow, good

1516
01:25:19,649 --> 01:25:20,519
Biden invitation.

1517
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:29,280
Adam Curry: Hello, Joe. We got
1657 trolls on board today. That

1518
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,730
is a step up from the 1609. On
the last Thursday, which I did

1519
01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:35,520
live from Amsterdam, the
Netherlands from the airport,

1520
01:25:36,090 --> 01:25:39,750
the trolls are in the troll room
at troll room.io. And of course,

1521
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:42,990
they may also be listening on a
modern podcast that tried true

1522
01:25:42,990 --> 01:25:47,340
fans, true fans, the web app,
you can use it on any device,

1523
01:25:47,340 --> 01:25:50,550
you don't need to install
anything. And it'll give you an

1524
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:53,550
alert. Actually, this is quite
cool how web apps can give

1525
01:25:53,550 --> 01:25:57,060
alerts these days. It'll give
you an alert when we go live. It

1526
01:25:57,060 --> 01:25:59,910
can also alert you when we
published 90 seconds after that

1527
01:25:59,910 --> 01:26:02,970
using the pod pink technology
all part of the independent

1528
01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:09,030
paying independent decentralized
podcasting 2.0. the only the

1529
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:12,420
only media format and
distribution system that is not

1530
01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:16,710
prone to deep platforming or
censorship. Of course, there's

1531
01:26:16,710 --> 01:26:20,670
no way to make money in it
either. I got a clip that there

1532
01:26:20,670 --> 01:26:25,560
was some some black podcasters
and they were moaning about how

1533
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:30,810
pod everyone in podcasting is
broke. There's no more minimum

1534
01:26:30,810 --> 01:26:34,140
guarantees, the bottom is
falling out. Oh, that's because

1535
01:26:34,140 --> 01:26:36,870
they were dependent. They were
Yes, they were dependent on

1536
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:40,770
Spotify money. And Spotify
pulled the plug and everything

1537
01:26:40,770 --> 01:26:44,700
fell apart except for this show.
Because our producers support

1538
01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:46,830
us. And they do those

1539
01:26:46,830 --> 01:26:48,900
John C Dvorak: black guys that
distribute their podcasts any

1540
01:26:48,900 --> 01:26:50,520
good. They could do the same
thing.

1541
01:26:50,610 --> 01:26:52,320
Adam Curry: It's actually the
black girls, which is even

1542
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:52,950
funnier.

1543
01:26:54,150 --> 01:26:56,130
John C Dvorak: podcast is any
good, they could do the same

1544
01:26:56,130 --> 01:26:57,210
thing. You know, the

1545
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,860
Adam Curry: so we we have the
value for value model, which we

1546
01:27:01,860 --> 01:27:07,020
developed over the past only 17
years in in October. And we

1547
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:11,190
decided that the best way to
keep doing this is by having our

1548
01:27:11,190 --> 01:27:15,210
producers support us with time,
talent or treasure. We had a

1549
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:19,530
good example of talent and time
is the boots on the ground

1550
01:27:19,530 --> 01:27:22,200
reports people hitting people in
the mouth people doing

1551
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:25,920
organizing meetups, people
creating clips, creating jingles

1552
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,730
helping us out in general stuff
that the mainstream can't even

1553
01:27:29,730 --> 01:27:32,700
do with their paid producers.
How many producers can you have?

1554
01:27:33,660 --> 01:27:37,590
On a show like this? None. Okay,
maybe one. But then you have to

1555
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:41,820
give up your Neumann mics. So
you know, it's this is this is a

1556
01:27:41,820 --> 01:27:44,730
perfect model. It's a
rollercoaster often, but it's a

1557
01:27:44,730 --> 01:27:49,650
model that works. And we have
another adopter. This is the

1558
01:27:49,770 --> 01:27:51,840
let's see, this is uncharted X.

1559
01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:54,150
Unknown: A quick note to let you
know that this video is being

1560
01:27:54,150 --> 01:27:57,300
brought to you by my amazing
supportive community and the

1561
01:27:57,300 --> 01:28:00,450
value value model. I don't do
sponsorship deals on this

1562
01:28:00,450 --> 01:28:03,720
channel. I also much prefer to
operate under the value for

1563
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,350
value model. And if you get some
value from my work, please

1564
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:10,650
consider returning some of that
value to me, whatever it means

1565
01:28:10,650 --> 01:28:14,310
to you in time, talent or
treasure. My New Channel Intro

1566
01:28:14,340 --> 01:28:17,910
is a result of this model as
many of the graphics in my logos

1567
01:28:18,030 --> 01:28:18,690
see

1568
01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:20,190
Adam Curry: this even working in
the UK

1569
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,210
John C Dvorak: people well you
know it's the works that's the

1570
01:28:24,210 --> 01:28:24,870
thing it

1571
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:27,690
Adam Curry: works and to prove
it we go to the Treasurer

1572
01:28:27,690 --> 01:28:30,420
portion this is where it now we
do two donations segments we'd

1573
01:28:30,420 --> 01:28:33,420
like to thank our executive and
Associate Executive Producers

1574
01:28:33,420 --> 01:28:36,630
right here which is $200 Above
we read your note that you're an

1575
01:28:36,630 --> 01:28:41,190
associate $300 and above you're
an executive producer and kind

1576
01:28:41,190 --> 01:28:43,350
of like Hollywood you know in a
fact that's exactly like

1577
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:45,510
Hollywood because these are real
credits you can use them

1578
01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:49,530
anywhere you can put them on
your IMDB and coming in top dog

1579
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:50,850
one way way What

1580
01:28:50,850 --> 01:28:51,840
John C Dvorak: about the art?

1581
01:28:52,230 --> 01:28:54,480
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry, I
forgot I forgot that two weeks

1582
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:55,530
ago to deny.

1583
01:28:55,950 --> 01:28:58,230
John C Dvorak: Yeah and last and
then you condemned me for not

1584
01:28:58,230 --> 01:29:00,450
catching it this time. I caught
it. Good

1585
01:29:00,450 --> 01:29:04,260
Adam Curry: job. We want to
thank the immense talent from

1586
01:29:04,260 --> 01:29:09,120
our artists all of them. Not bar
none all of them Dutch masters.

1587
01:29:09,630 --> 01:29:12,630
It's amazing that we have these
Dutch masters creating this for

1588
01:29:12,630 --> 01:29:17,520
us. And the artwork from Episode
1671 You can find all these at

1589
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,630
no agenda art generator.com We
titled that it's the boyfriend

1590
01:29:21,930 --> 01:29:28,110
and the art came from Sir Schug
aka fo diddley classic, classic

1591
01:29:28,110 --> 01:29:35,040
no agenda. Product shot pack
pack shot the new gigabyte

1592
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:39,780
crunch with us it was the
Nestle's crunch bar with even

1593
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:42,450
had no agenda and that was the
best part I think.

1594
01:29:42,660 --> 01:29:45,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the no
agenda logo is done in the

1595
01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:46,950
Nestle's there

1596
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:50,010
Adam Curry: was a nice touch rip
off is beautiful. was a nice

1597
01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:56,520
touch. Let me see what else we
had we had babies vaping I kind

1598
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,710
of liked that you didn't like
it. You thought it was something

1599
01:29:58,710 --> 01:30:05,370
wrong with it. When we kind of
like Matthew drop COEs although

1600
01:30:05,370 --> 01:30:10,860
it was very AI II AI II you know
the dude trying to keep us on

1601
01:30:10,860 --> 01:30:13,560
the air and everything blowing
up he had two of those actually.

1602
01:30:14,190 --> 01:30:14,460
Yeah,

1603
01:30:14,490 --> 01:30:16,770
John C Dvorak: one with three
arms, which was actually better.

1604
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,790
Yeah, because it was classic AI.
And we had a couple of seasons

1605
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:23,850
and a girl walks down the street
with all the boiling with the

1606
01:30:23,850 --> 01:30:25,860
eggs frying on the street. Yeah,

1607
01:30:25,890 --> 01:30:28,200
Adam Curry: was a bit more even.
You thought that was a bit much?

1608
01:30:29,010 --> 01:30:32,670
Yeah. Was there anything else
extrapolated

1609
01:30:32,670 --> 01:30:34,260
John C Dvorak: to candy bar
quite a bit. Yeah, the

1610
01:30:34,260 --> 01:30:37,110
Adam Curry: candy bar was good.
That was That's classic, no

1611
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:41,400
agenda, product shots. Always a
winner a lot of heat warning

1612
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:46,950
things. And of course again,
it's a Dutch master So shall we

1613
01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:50,520
thank you very much. No agenda
art generator.com. You can see

1614
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,710
all the artwork there you can
contribute you can upload your

1615
01:30:52,710 --> 01:30:56,820
own art and and be in the race.
Of course, these artists are

1616
01:30:56,820 --> 01:31:00,090
listening live. So they do it on
the fly, which is amazing to me

1617
01:31:00,090 --> 01:31:02,820
how they do except for the AI
jockeys, the prompt jockeys. I

1618
01:31:02,820 --> 01:31:03,240
get it.

1619
01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:04,770
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
everybody now.

1620
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,130
Adam Curry: Yeah, pretty much. I
can tell you everything that's

1621
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:11,670
been uploaded so far is not
going to get chosen. Because all

1622
01:31:11,670 --> 01:31:12,120
AI

1623
01:31:12,990 --> 01:31:16,860
John C Dvorak: is all a I have
to admit, I think the piece with

1624
01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:23,760
the drooling bug guide, Biden
were called juiced and ready is

1625
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,150
at least younger is by Rick
Harris.

1626
01:31:27,210 --> 01:31:32,220
Adam Curry: I do like the the
flags on his lapel too. Right.

1627
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,350
These also show up in our
chapters, Dred Scott always put

1628
01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:40,020
that together in your modern
podcast app. So you can see all

1629
01:31:40,020 --> 01:31:43,140
of the rotating as we go through
different topics on the show.

1630
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,560
Now back to our executive
producers and our Associate

1631
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,560
Executive Producer, he comes in
usually once a month, sometimes

1632
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,620
it's six weeks, and here he is
once again Serrana Miss of

1633
01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:58,110
Dogpatch and lower Slobo via a
number that is always a code of

1634
01:31:58,110 --> 01:32:06,000
some sort. baffling to us. 3612
I'm going to presume this came

1635
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,880
in from came in cash. It came in
with at least one $2 bill and it

1636
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:16,140
came in from some mailbox
somewhere in the country. As

1637
01:32:16,140 --> 01:32:16,680
usual.

1638
01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:21,060
John C Dvorak: It came in with
six $2 bills. Oh,

1639
01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:26,760
Adam Curry: oh, yes. Five for 12
Okay. And in this typewritten

1640
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:31,110
note, from Toronto, Mr. Dogpatch
Hello, hello Bovee I hope all

1641
01:32:31,110 --> 01:32:36,330
had a Blessed Eid Al Adha Eid Al
Adha I think it's not even Eid

1642
01:32:36,330 --> 01:32:38,280
Al Adha Thank you.

1643
01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:39,960
John C Dvorak: We were wondering
if he was going to come in

1644
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,050
because he every year he always
comes in Eid donation. I

1645
01:32:43,050 --> 01:32:44,940
Adam Curry: wonder if he was at
the Hodge thing.

1646
01:32:47,490 --> 01:32:49,440
John C Dvorak: I'm sure he's
been to the Heisman and that he

1647
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:52,500
didn't let out if he does.
saralee and he has a note this

1648
01:32:52,500 --> 01:32:53,070
one he has

1649
01:32:53,070 --> 01:32:55,740
Adam Curry: a note he wants to
share with everyone. Thank you

1650
01:32:55,740 --> 01:32:59,190
to all older new producers for
making this a valuable source of

1651
01:32:59,190 --> 01:33:03,060
information perspective and
insight. The hard work and ball

1652
01:33:03,060 --> 01:33:08,490
sweat from Wow sir autonomous.
This is a twist. This is a

1653
01:33:08,490 --> 01:33:11,820
twist. The hard work and ball
sweat from the two hosts plus

1654
01:33:11,820 --> 01:33:15,390
the work of other producers
offers wonderful value. As I

1655
01:33:15,390 --> 01:33:18,180
travel. He always has a little
eat. He's always on the road. As

1656
01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:19,440
I travel I noticed.

1657
01:33:19,740 --> 01:33:23,370
John C Dvorak: We wonder what he
does. I believe he's a salesman.

1658
01:33:24,180 --> 01:33:27,480
Adam Curry: As I travel I am
noting some empty international

1659
01:33:27,480 --> 01:33:31,650
airline seats and easier hotel
bookings. I don't always go to

1660
01:33:31,650 --> 01:33:35,190
the best countries. But
availability is getting easier

1661
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:39,810
as well. Carrying USD and my
overseas travel as emergency

1662
01:33:39,810 --> 01:33:44,760
backup. I have found it
impossible to get new $100 bills

1663
01:33:44,970 --> 01:33:48,480
as older ones are commonly
discounted in less reputable

1664
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:53,490
countries. That's interesting.
Political fundraising has

1665
01:33:53,490 --> 01:33:58,020
already made $2 bills scarce and
now large new bills except for

1666
01:33:58,020 --> 01:34:02,520
$10 bills are difficult to get
digital dollars seem easier to

1667
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,360
print. You got that right
brother. Finally, to cross the

1668
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:11,100
bridge from the tolls scurry
from the war in Sudan. To cross

1669
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:14,820
the bridge from the toll scurry
from the war in Sudan is

1670
01:34:14,820 --> 01:34:18,540
expected to cause almost as many
deaths from famine by September

1671
01:34:18,540 --> 01:34:22,560
as the population of the West
Bank. He's making a point here.

1672
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,010
The bricks are growing because
they give a damn about their own

1673
01:34:26,010 --> 01:34:29,910
people. The UN operates like a
military planner fighting the

1674
01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:34,080
last war explaining why the UK
and France are permanent

1675
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,250
members. No jingles, no karma.
So he's dropping some wisdom

1676
01:34:38,250 --> 01:34:38,670
here.

1677
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's got
some misses eating up his Mama's

1678
01:34:42,540 --> 01:34:46,500
craw there. Yeah, especially the
UK and France and the UN. He's a

1679
01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:46,680
little

1680
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,960
Adam Curry: mad about that.
Well, well, that's the war

1681
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:49,500
machine.

1682
01:34:49,530 --> 01:34:52,710
John C Dvorak: This show hates
it, too. Yeah, yes. Very wide

1683
01:34:52,710 --> 01:34:53,310
doughnuts.

1684
01:34:53,370 --> 01:34:56,190
Adam Curry: Thank you very much,
sir animus of Dogpatch and Lois

1685
01:34:56,190 --> 01:34:59,640
LeBeau via always making it a
happy happy month at the end of

1686
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,200
the month. Happy eat. Yes

1687
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,330
John C Dvorak: it does. It makes
a big difference. Yes, it does.

1688
01:35:03,330 --> 01:35:11,220
Thank you, sir. Onward with me a
note open with Anonymous from

1689
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:16,860
Qurans Bong Correns Bong, which
is typically sounds like an

1690
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:20,400
Australian city and it is, I
guess in New South Wales. He

1691
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,610
came up with the 898 70, which

1692
01:35:23,610 --> 01:35:27,360
Adam Curry: I think was 1000.
Australian probably probably.

1693
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,620
John C Dvorak: But he says it m
value for value T type three at

1694
01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:36,870
us one dollars slash hour. In
other words, he's $1 an hour is

1695
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:39,480
what his donation is. That's
what it is. He's listening for

1696
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:43,710
898 hours and 70 point 70 Thank
you for your courage. No jingles

1697
01:35:43,710 --> 01:35:48,030
no karma also, I don't want $1
We do discount knighthood. Thank

1698
01:35:48,030 --> 01:35:48,300
you.

1699
01:35:49,620 --> 01:35:52,080
Adam Curry: All right. None
given. Thank you anonymous.

1700
01:35:53,160 --> 01:36:00,840
Paul. Van vanderwal vandrie Is
it an eye looks like an L? I

1701
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:01,710
think it's an L Yeah.

1702
01:36:01,710 --> 01:36:03,360
John C Dvorak: Bandura Ben
Vendrell

1703
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:07,230
Adam Curry: mount Riverview also
from downunder How about that

1704
01:36:07,230 --> 01:36:12,360
random number theory? Not so
random though. 6.66. He says

1705
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:17,130
here's my donation the devils in
the detail. With this donation I

1706
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:20,610
removed my longtime douchebag
status and acknowledge my past

1707
01:36:20,610 --> 01:36:29,010
hypocrisy. I'll de deuced I am
an atheist, perhaps agnostic

1708
01:36:29,010 --> 01:36:32,550
since I don't see the proof in a
god and doubt religion yet,

1709
01:36:32,730 --> 01:36:35,370
until the last year, I never
questioned the climate change

1710
01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:39,270
religion and its prophets of
doom. And thanks to no agenda, I

1711
01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:43,320
have seen the errors of my ways.
If you don't know the data fed

1712
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,930
into the models, how the models
work, and what comes out of the

1713
01:36:45,930 --> 01:36:49,740
models told to you from on high.
You just can't be proven that

1714
01:36:49,740 --> 01:36:54,000
it's that it is but just believe
for belief sake. Amen. Thanks

1715
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,490
for hitting me in the mouth with
a bit more common sense.

1716
01:36:56,610 --> 01:37:00,600
Regards, Paul Vendrell from the
testing grounds Down Under in

1717
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,670
Australia. Yes, you are the
testing grounds.

1718
01:37:02,850 --> 01:37:05,070
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Oh,
that's true. Yeah, we talked

1719
01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:07,860
about that last year that's may
have contributed to gotten two

1720
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:09,570
people to contribute. It worked.

1721
01:37:09,660 --> 01:37:10,620
Unknown: Let's keep doing it.

1722
01:37:11,670 --> 01:37:19,890
John C Dvorak: Ben Knight us in
San Francisco. 369. I totally

1723
01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:25,710
spaced on envelope for JCD at
Club mallard. So this makes it

1724
01:37:25,710 --> 01:37:31,170
460 9am edging. Oh, so close to
the Duke club. Have to make a

1725
01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:36,090
new account on masthope Pretty
soon to be Duke of San

1726
01:37:36,090 --> 01:37:42,330
Francisco. You're kind of Masto
that Mastodon Yeah. Here's the

1727
01:37:42,330 --> 01:37:46,710
clip link that made me donate.
This should be in the intro to

1728
01:37:46,710 --> 01:37:50,070
no agenda or an example of bad
interview. You know, Charlie

1729
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:53,430
Rose would have handled this
lady better. And then he's got a

1730
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:55,590
clip, which I didn't play. Yeah,

1731
01:37:55,590 --> 01:38:00,570
Adam Curry: I did. It was it was
Jon Stewart. Talking to the

1732
01:38:00,570 --> 01:38:07,110
Pentagon lady about the about
the audit of the Pentagon. Oh,

1733
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:12,030
John C Dvorak: okay. In order in
honor of GPT four, and Apple

1734
01:38:12,030 --> 01:38:17,190
intelligence that 4.0 meet up
link is below. I just sold some

1735
01:38:17,190 --> 01:38:23,130
shares moments ago from my Apple
Store Genius Bar days. And nice

1736
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,730
and I planted that's
interesting. And I plan on

1737
01:38:26,730 --> 01:38:31,830
bringing JCD cash in hand for
the Duke upgrade. Tell him to

1738
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:37,230
bring his sword. You better. I
don't do that. I'm less than 600

1739
01:38:37,230 --> 01:38:41,490
hours away I can be I can bring
gold as well if Shawn prefers

1740
01:38:41,490 --> 01:38:47,010
Yeah, bring gold. Gold. Please.
Go gold. Please plug in addition

1741
01:38:47,010 --> 01:38:51,240
Pay Pal donation of fluoride in
your cup and San Francisco

1742
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,110
living so no one's a no one's
heard that jingle in a while.

1743
01:38:55,110 --> 01:39:00,450
That's true. I hope you can find
it. And then he has a link to

1744
01:39:00,450 --> 01:39:02,340
the meetup, which is the next

1745
01:39:02,340 --> 01:39:04,470
Adam Curry: job. Yeah, the
Albany meetup. Get John out of

1746
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:07,800
the house meet up. Yeah. All
right. And I

1747
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:08,640
John C Dvorak: look forward to
that.

1748
01:39:08,670 --> 01:39:14,370
Adam Curry: I have the jingle
for LinkedIn is fluoride in good

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one. We move on to thank you
very much Ben Baron dude named

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Jeff 333 33. From New Jersey
just jobs karma for me my

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brother and my sister. We all
need it. Well, let me give that

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01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:30,720
to you. Almost second word My
job's car. This is the this is

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01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,110
the good stuff. I pulled it out
of the out of the cellar. Jobs,

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01:39:34,230 --> 01:39:38,460
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Jobs.

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01:39:42,990 --> 01:39:46,740
John C Dvorak: And we go on to
the SIR pursuit of peace and

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01:39:46,740 --> 01:39:51,420
tranquility. Three, three 3.33
And he writes, keeping it

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01:39:51,420 --> 01:39:53,880
simple. Love the show.
Beautiful.

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01:39:56,910 --> 01:39:59,460
Adam Curry: Don't try to
pronounce my name. Call me. dama

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01:39:59,460 --> 01:40:04,170
skin And it's Eugeny dama
schemee I think from Boston,

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01:40:04,170 --> 01:40:07,890
Massachusetts 333 dot 33 karma
from my dad, please thank you

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01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,640
from dama dama skin we'll just
do as you as you request. Thank

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01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,710
you. You've got karma

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01:40:15,599 --> 01:40:20,489
John C Dvorak: anonymous in
Texas 333 I'm sending up the bat

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signal to get donation for help.
I'm a pilot for a major US

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01:40:25,169 --> 01:40:29,039
airline that got sent home for
not accepting the jab into my

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01:40:29,039 --> 01:40:33,749
life. Even though I received a
religious accommodation. they

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01:40:33,749 --> 01:40:37,049
accommodated me with being
furloughed laid off

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indefinitely. Those of us in
this situation organized and

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01:40:41,069 --> 01:40:45,209
sued. Nearly three years later
this past Friday, we were ruled

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as a class and now it goes
forward. Ah, have an outstanding

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law firm and they are not cheap.
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That's a e four h f.org Aviation
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health freedom and hit the
support button to donate to our

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legal fund. Can you please add
this to the show notes? I'll do

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that I have. I have no sad puppy
to offer but anything to help us

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01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:19,049
against Goliath would be greatly
appreciated. It's been said

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01:41:19,049 --> 01:41:24,089
before but your show has kept me
sane through these times. God

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01:41:24,089 --> 01:41:28,409
bless you and you both and all
the producers no jingles no

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karma anonymous at Angels 33

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Adam Curry: Yeah, I was reading
that this is like a billion

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01:41:33,090 --> 01:41:37,560
dollar lawsuit. I think United
is is on the receiving end of

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01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,150
this. They deserve it.

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01:41:40,020 --> 01:41:41,580
John C Dvorak: I say so. What
are

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01:41:41,580 --> 01:41:43,530
Adam Curry: they doing that
they're putting these young kids

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01:41:43,530 --> 01:41:48,030
in who are pushing forward
instead of pulling back? Not

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good. Whoa, see me if I push
forward? Sir Michael Cedar

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to my sister dollar promoting

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her small business with a link
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We even have we've ever seen
this website

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John C Dvorak: but no agenda
tags.com Yeah,

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Adam Curry: I've never heard of
this. I like it.

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John C Dvorak: No gentleman's
check it out. Okay, she

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Adam Curry: does 3d printing
embroidery and equine supplies,

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easy tags and easy equine
essentials are her small biz,

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from Sir Miko the Midwest, and
we've put it on the list. All

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right. No agenda tags.com. So is
it is it? Is that? No agenda

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tags.com and take a look. What
is it? Is it tag is tags? We're

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under construction? Oh. Well,
that doesn't help. No. All

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right. Well,

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John C Dvorak: let's echo
winterwood. At coin supplies.

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She does get a hold of Brunetti.
There you go. Linda packings. Up

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at Lakewood, Colorado. That's
where she's from $200 jobs

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coming for a competitive edge
she writes Go to Image makers

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or just find Linda Lou, Duchess

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of jobs and writer of resumes on
the producers list. She's there.

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Jobs,

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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs

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01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:12,300
Adam Curry: are mine. Then we
got our final Associate

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01:43:12,300 --> 01:43:16,620
Executive Producer ship for
Nellie grossen Bakker from Mesa,

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01:43:16,620 --> 01:43:19,590
Arizona. I'll read her note and
then you can explain the much

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01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:22,620
longer note which you were quite
interested in. She says thank

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01:43:22,620 --> 01:43:24,510
you for the work that you both
do. I've been listening to no

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01:43:24,510 --> 01:43:27,480
agenda since January of 2019.
Right after I was thrown into

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01:43:27,480 --> 01:43:31,140
the disaster written out below
short story. Here is your

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01:43:31,140 --> 01:43:34,680
portion of our winnings against
Rockland County, New York County

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01:43:34,710 --> 01:43:39,810
exit executor, 14 families
fought for five years to prove

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01:43:39,810 --> 01:43:43,110
that our healthy unvaccinated
children were treated unjustly

1819
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:45,990
when they were excluded from
schooling during the great New

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01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:50,730
York measles epidemic of
2018 2019. Which we of course,

1821
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:54,900
followed quite closely on the
show because boy, what a bunch

1822
01:43:54,900 --> 01:43:59,700
of crock that was. And you got
the you got the full writing

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01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:00,420
from her John.

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01:44:00,810 --> 01:44:04,230
John C Dvorak: She wrote a long
essay, which I'm thinking of

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01:44:04,260 --> 01:44:11,040
running in my substack column is
so good about how her kids she

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01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:14,490
didn't want to get the MMR
vaccine. And that would be

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01:44:15,180 --> 01:44:18,600
probably a wise decision in some
situations when she believed

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01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,150
that she didn't need it. And
Measles is not that big of a

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01:44:21,150 --> 01:44:26,940
deal. And generally speaking,
it's true. Not people are

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01:44:26,940 --> 01:44:31,200
dropping dead from it. And they
kicked her out, kicked her and

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01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,200
her family out of the school.
Yeah, you can't come in. And it

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01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,440
says she has it's a long story.
But it's very interesting and

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01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:39,930
Unknown: you're actually
thinking of republishing it.

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01:44:40,770 --> 01:44:41,340
Yeah, I've

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01:44:41,340 --> 01:44:43,920
John C Dvorak: got that one. And
there's another educational one

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01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:48,060
from some one of a teacher out
there. Yes, I'm thinking of

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01:44:48,060 --> 01:44:51,060
republishing it and some other
ones. I think I'm going to do

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01:44:51,060 --> 01:44:51,480
that.

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01:44:51,690 --> 01:44:53,640
Adam Curry: It's nice to see all
these people getting some

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01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:58,020
respite. Is that the right term
respite? There do getting there

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01:44:58,020 --> 01:45:01,140
do like the pilots want the
pilots to Get there. Do we want

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01:45:01,170 --> 01:45:05,550
all these people to get there do
takes time. But Justice

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01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:06,960
ultimately takes time

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01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,300
John C Dvorak: and who has the
time? That's the problem. Well,

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01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:12,450
we're busy podcasts the whole
system is set up that way. So us

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01:45:12,450 --> 01:45:14,610
Yeah, okay, well, maybe you'll
beat us but you're gonna have

1847
01:45:14,610 --> 01:45:16,230
to, it's gonna cost you time and
money.

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01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:18,780
Adam Curry: Thank you to these
executive and Associate

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01:45:18,780 --> 01:45:22,380
Executive producers for episode
1672. We appreciate you we

1850
01:45:22,380 --> 01:45:25,140
appreciate every single producer
who supports us with time,

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01:45:25,140 --> 01:45:28,590
talent and treasure, you can go
to no agenda donations.com You

1852
01:45:28,590 --> 01:45:33,420
can support us for any amount,
any amount that that is equals

1853
01:45:33,420 --> 01:45:36,180
the value that you received and
the value is only something that

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01:45:36,180 --> 01:45:38,730
you can determine no one can
look in your pocket book. And we

1855
01:45:38,730 --> 01:45:41,220
appreciate all of it. Every
single one of it we'll be

1856
01:45:41,220 --> 01:45:44,160
reading more up until $50 And
our second segment once again

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01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:49,170
thank you for producing episode
1672 Our

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01:45:49,170 --> 01:45:53,610
Unknown: formula is this we go
out yet people in the mouth

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01:46:08,670 --> 01:46:10,710
Yeah, shut up slave.

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01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,950
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna get
some Gaza stuff out of the way.

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01:46:14,700 --> 01:46:18,600
Okay. So now I'm going to play
this play these guys, Lloyd

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01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,430
Austin Gaza report.

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01:46:21,060 --> 01:46:23,190
Adam Curry: No, and the good NTD
bit

1864
01:46:23,220 --> 01:46:25,920
Unknown: defense secretary Lloyd
Austin is meeting his Israeli

1865
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,520
counterpart in Washington today
that says controversy is taking

1866
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,120
hold in Israel as the military
has to start drafting ultra

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01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,600
orthodox men and he's
INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT area

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01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:38,820
and post art house the Israel
update.

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01:46:39,690 --> 01:46:42,660
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
is meeting his Israeli

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01:46:42,660 --> 01:46:44,070
counterpart in DC.

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01:46:44,940 --> 01:46:48,450
Adam Curry: Now finally, this is
NTD man that lead is no good.

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01:46:48,450 --> 01:46:50,220
They gotta have this guy on all
the time.

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01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:51,870
John C Dvorak: He's great. He's
perfect

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01:46:51,870 --> 01:46:54,450
Unknown: Secretary Lloyd Austin
is meeting his Israeli

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01:46:54,450 --> 01:46:58,530
counterpart in DC. Now the
meeting comes as Israel plans to

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01:46:58,530 --> 01:47:01,800
move troops from Gaza to the
Lebanese border to tackle

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01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:05,520
Hezbollah. But this plan of
course is increasing concerns

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01:47:05,550 --> 01:47:07,800
about a wider conflict in the
region.

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I am extremely concerned about
the rise and rocket attacks on

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01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:16,260
Israel's north from Lebanese
Hezbollah, and the recent surge

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01:47:16,290 --> 01:47:18,000
in tensions. Austin

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01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:21,150
says that a war between Israel
and Hezbollah could easily

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01:47:21,150 --> 01:47:24,450
become a regional conflict.
Israel's national security

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01:47:24,450 --> 01:47:27,780
adviser says they will spend
weeks using diplomatic means to

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01:47:27,780 --> 01:47:31,200
try to find a middle ground with
the Iran backed terrorist group.

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01:47:31,230 --> 01:47:33,990
But if that doesn't work, they
will use different methods to

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01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:37,980
attempt to bring calm to the
Israel Lebanon border. The US is

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01:47:37,980 --> 01:47:41,430
urging Israel to use diplomacy
although provocations are

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01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:43,050
ramping up, whose rose

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01:47:43,050 --> 01:47:46,740
provocations threatened to drag
the Israeli and Lebanese people

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01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,350
into a war that they do not
want.

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01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,800
Meanwhile, in Israel, the
Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled

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01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,950
that the military must begin
drafting ultra orthodox men

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01:47:56,220 --> 01:47:57,720
Israelis are divided

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01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:04,020
at a time of war at a time of
war. Everyone has to make that

1896
01:48:04,020 --> 01:48:04,800
take that part

1897
01:48:04,830 --> 01:48:08,580
it's not a good decision but why
is not a good decision because

1898
01:48:08,580 --> 01:48:16,140
the army is not does not respect
the people. They don't respect

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01:48:16,140 --> 01:48:16,350
it.

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The historic ruling puts an end
to a decade's old system that

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granted ultra orthodox men
exemptions from military service

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01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:25,620
Adam Curry: as is pretty
controversial.

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01:48:26,250 --> 01:48:27,420
John C Dvorak: Oh yes a big
deal.

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01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:31,710
Adam Curry: Can this bring BB
down? Oh, I

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01:48:31,710 --> 01:48:33,540
John C Dvorak: don't think so. I
think the most I think the

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01:48:33,540 --> 01:48:36,840
Israeli population as a whole
first of all, they don't like

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01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,430
these people. When I was in
Israel, I got a tour

1908
01:48:42,990 --> 01:48:45,390
Adam Curry: from pretty
elaborate AIPAC babysitter you

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01:48:45,390 --> 01:48:46,170
know, the one who's still

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01:48:46,170 --> 01:48:48,630
John C Dvorak: sends us just as
a guy who was publishing PC

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01:48:48,630 --> 01:48:52,500
Magazine Israel at the time
though, and he took me all over

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01:48:52,500 --> 01:48:56,730
the country I went everywhere
and north south in between, and

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01:48:56,730 --> 01:49:00,630
he took me to one of the quote
unquote villages where these

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01:49:00,630 --> 01:49:06,270
ascetics live and you could just
tell that the Israelis as a

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01:49:06,270 --> 01:49:09,720
whole they don't like him. They
don't like these these people

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01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,960
and they think they're pigs
literally is what he said. And

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01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,600
he's right Teresa look at a guy
named David into place was kind

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01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:20,250
of garbage garbage. He was a
meshed. And they really don't

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01:49:20,250 --> 01:49:22,260
like these people. So I don't
think this is gonna be of

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01:49:22,260 --> 01:49:26,070
anything. You know. I think it
may have been done to keep keep

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01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:28,770
BB in office. Just the opposite.
Oh,

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Adam Curry: interesting. Okay.

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01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,040
Unknown: So part two of this
clip, the head of the UN

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01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:38,730
Palestinian refugee agency says
it's getting more complicated to

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01:49:38,730 --> 01:49:41,790
move drugs with aid from Israel
into Gaza. We

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01:49:41,790 --> 01:49:47,160
are confronted nowadays to a
near total breakdown of law and

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01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:48,270
order. The

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01:49:48,270 --> 01:49:51,030
US State Department explained
the problem on Tuesday,

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random looting and criminal
gangs and criminal actors who

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have been attacking trucks.

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He added that the US is now
working on a solution. One

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option is to give us that
personal protective equipment so

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they can defend themselves
against violent gangs which are

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building up.

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Adam Curry: Oh, PPE they're
gonna get masks. He said

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personal protective equipment
PPE this mask. One of those

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01:50:16,620 --> 01:50:20,640
Lloyd awesome face shields. I
have a CBS version of the ultra

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orthodox report following

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Unknown: some breaking
developments out of Israel this

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01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:26,280
morning that could threaten
Prime Minister Benjamin

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01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,920
Netanyahu is grip on power
there. Oh, see they think it's

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01:50:29,070 --> 01:50:31,710
could threaten his grip. Israel
Supreme Court has ruled that

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they

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John C Dvorak: would stop for
saying, you know, American

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01:50:35,550 --> 01:50:39,420
mainstream media has hates him
for some reason. And every

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01:50:39,420 --> 01:50:43,980
report that they give us that He
is, is always negative. But if

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01:50:43,980 --> 01:50:47,310
you get reports outside of the
country, it's the you don't hear

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01:50:47,310 --> 01:50:51,930
any of this I I'm not buying
this this idea that he's he's

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gone. They're

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01:50:53,220 --> 01:50:55,560
Adam Curry: running cover for
Biden they're running cover we

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01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,460
send we send weapons they run
cover. Bibi pretends we didn't

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01:50:59,490 --> 01:51:07,290
origin send it as running cover.
It's all BS come on CBS come on

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01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:07,680
in Prime

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Unknown: Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is grip on power there

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Israel Supreme Court has ruled
that ultra orthodox religious

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men must be drafted into the
military. They're like just

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about everyone else. Most Jewish
Israeli men and women are

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01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:23,220
required at age 18. To serve in
the armed forces starting at 18

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01:51:23,220 --> 01:51:26,490
for two to three years, two for
women, three for men, but ultra

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01:51:26,490 --> 01:51:29,730
orthodox communities had been
exempted from the rule. The

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01:51:29,730 --> 01:51:32,940
court's decision could lead to
Netanyahu losing support from

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01:51:32,970 --> 01:51:35,820
ultra orthodox parties and his
coalition government which could

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01:51:35,820 --> 01:51:39,210
trigger new elections, the head
of one of those parties called

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01:51:39,210 --> 01:51:42,030
the ruling quote very
unfortunate and disappointing.

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01:51:42,090 --> 01:51:44,760
Adam Curry: I don't think that's
true. I thought only only

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01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:48,960
Netanyahu can call new elections
can just be triggered if there's

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a

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John C Dvorak: parliamentary
crisis. I have to do some

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01:51:52,170 --> 01:51:53,490
research to know for sure.

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Adam Curry: This whole this
whole Lebanon thing is so

1971
01:51:56,490 --> 01:51:59,970
annoying. Alright, so we've
cleaned up Gaza, but now we're

1972
01:51:59,970 --> 01:52:00,930
going to keep going.

1973
01:52:04,290 --> 01:52:05,010
John C Dvorak: Got me?

1974
01:52:05,850 --> 01:52:07,020
Adam Curry: I have a wonderful,

1975
01:52:07,050 --> 01:52:10,080
John C Dvorak: I'm baffled by a
sight. But I would be kind of

1976
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,620
it's the war machine. It's the
war machine. And we're behind

1977
01:52:13,620 --> 01:52:14,340
it. Yes.

1978
01:52:14,370 --> 01:52:17,850
Adam Curry: Thank you. It's the
war machine. In fact, I have a

1979
01:52:18,690 --> 01:52:23,760
have a great there was a great
advertisement on CNN A, which is

1980
01:52:24,060 --> 01:52:28,590
think the China News Agency.
Yeah, I think so. Well, I don't

1981
01:52:28,590 --> 01:52:32,340
know whose side they're on. But
this is an obvious Whoa, boy, we

1982
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:35,010
need more money. We need money
we mean money because we don't

1983
01:52:35,010 --> 01:52:36,060
have this gear.

1984
01:52:37,020 --> 01:52:40,080
Unknown: hypersonic missiles
tipped with either conventional

1985
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:43,560
or nuclear warheads can hone in
on their targets at least five

1986
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:47,100
times faster than the speed of
sound. They are a new threat.

1987
01:52:47,220 --> 01:52:50,250
Because weapons that effectively
counter them are yet to be fully

1988
01:52:50,250 --> 01:52:54,150
developed and deployed. And that
could redefine the global

1989
01:52:54,150 --> 01:52:58,710
balance of military power. China
is seem to be leading the world.

1990
01:52:58,860 --> 01:53:02,010
When it comes to building up its
arsenal, a milestone The United

1991
01:53:02,010 --> 01:53:06,060
States has acknowledged. Two
notable missiles are the de F

1992
01:53:06,060 --> 01:53:10,080
17, a medium range ballistic
missile equipped with a

1993
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:14,730
hypersonic glide vehicle, and
the DF 41, which can be armed

1994
01:53:14,730 --> 01:53:19,230
with up to a dozen nuclear
capable warheads. Russia, and

1995
01:53:19,230 --> 01:53:22,200
another producer of the high
speed projectiles is the first

1996
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,710
country to use them in combat.
At least two types are known to

1997
01:53:25,710 --> 01:53:29,370
have been deployed so far. And
it's invasion of Ukraine. That's

1998
01:53:29,370 --> 01:53:34,470
the air launch kinjal or dagger,
and the sea launched zircon,

1999
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:37,470
which uses a hypersonic glide
vehicle. Now

2000
01:53:37,470 --> 01:53:39,180
Adam Curry: I think we need to
have some congressional

2001
01:53:39,180 --> 01:53:40,710
hearings. Well,

2002
01:53:40,710 --> 01:53:43,170
John C Dvorak: what just
happened? We should know to my

2003
01:53:43,170 --> 01:53:45,960
as I put this in there, it's not
covered by the mainstream, but

2004
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:50,670
it's covered by the news defense
newsletters is the chief of the

2005
01:53:50,670 --> 01:53:56,160
next generation ICBM project was
fired. So the government went

2006
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,440
way over budget, they didn't
know what to do about it. They

2007
01:53:58,440 --> 01:54:01,200
can't seem to get this next
generation this problem with all

2008
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:05,160
of our next generation
technologies. Nobody can it just

2009
01:54:05,460 --> 01:54:09,330
overruns they don't they can't
estimate correctly. It's

2010
01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:13,230
horrible. And so this guy got
canned and now we're just

2011
01:54:13,230 --> 01:54:16,920
basically just blown into when
we don't have anybody running

2012
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,460
the probe program basically over
the next generation ICBM which

2013
01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:23,070
is supposed to have been done by
now it's not even close well I

2014
01:54:23,070 --> 01:54:26,520
Adam Curry: take this c and a c
and a report to be some kind of

2015
01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:30,750
propaganda for the for the war
machines like you know, you

2016
01:54:30,750 --> 01:54:34,620
know, China's got him Russia's
got them, you know, could change

2017
01:54:34,620 --> 01:54:42,180
the global power balance. We
need it. Need some money? Yeah,

2018
01:54:42,450 --> 01:54:44,850
you can just wait for it. Yeah,
let's

2019
01:54:44,850 --> 01:54:46,620
John C Dvorak: definitely need
money. We need money.

2020
01:54:47,250 --> 01:54:50,580
Adam Curry: I thought was kind
of funny. This interview a

2021
01:54:50,580 --> 01:54:53,820
little bit here with Jack Reed
who was a Democrat from Rhode

2022
01:54:53,820 --> 01:54:58,770
Island. About the draft of
course. There's always been talk

2023
01:54:58,770 --> 01:55:02,100
of of drafting we In the United
States, and here

2024
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:05,550
Unknown: we are, Senator, one
thing on your plate right now is

2025
01:55:05,550 --> 01:55:07,770
the National Defense
Authorization Act. I mean, this

2026
01:55:07,770 --> 01:55:12,150
is for all who don't follow the
NDAA. This is a massive bill

2027
01:55:12,150 --> 01:55:15,450
that sets Pentagon policy
guiding funding for the year

2028
01:55:15,450 --> 01:55:16,380
ahead, sets

2029
01:55:16,380 --> 01:55:22,290
Adam Curry: policy. No, it robs
us of $900 billion policy,

2030
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:23,130
included

2031
01:55:23,130 --> 01:55:26,160
Unknown: this time in various
versions is proposal that would

2032
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,910
make registering for the draft
automatic, and also move in the

2033
01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:33,960
Senate to expand it to women for
the first time. What's going to

2034
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:34,860
happen with this?

2035
01:55:36,630 --> 01:55:40,560
John C Dvorak: Well, I think is
an entirely sensible idea. It

2036
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:45,090
was recommended by a national
bipartisan commission on

2037
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:49,290
national service. And we took
that recommendation, and it was

2038
01:55:49,290 --> 01:55:54,480
in 2016, and 2017, publicly
supported by all uniform Chiefs

2039
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:59,790
of Staff, because it makes
sense. 17% of the military today

2040
01:55:59,820 --> 01:56:03,390
is composed of women, they're in
every aspect of service, combat

2041
01:56:03,390 --> 01:56:08,550
arms, technical services, etc.
And we're in a situation where

2042
01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:14,280
all we're trying to do is
register, there's no draft in

2043
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:18,480
place today. It would take
Congress to act to pass

2044
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,290
legislation to create a draft.
And in that legislation, they

2045
01:56:22,290 --> 01:56:25,710
could make distinctions,
clarifications, whatever

2046
01:56:25,710 --> 01:56:29,970
Congress thought, but without
this registration requirement,

2047
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:35,160
we are missing on a vast pool of
talent. I mean, it's

2048
01:56:35,190 --> 01:56:38,610
interesting, we're talking about
Israel, their armed forces have

2049
01:56:38,610 --> 01:56:41,520
been gender neutral for

2050
01:56:43,050 --> 01:56:44,850
Adam Curry: Israel. Yeah. Now
Israel's great

2051
01:56:46,410 --> 01:56:49,650
John C Dvorak: gender neutral
for decades and decades and

2052
01:56:49,650 --> 01:56:53,070
decades. And they're the one
most effective fighting forces

2053
01:56:53,070 --> 01:56:54,210
in the country, in

2054
01:56:54,210 --> 01:56:56,310
Adam Curry: the country. Are
they here? Are they fighting

2055
01:56:56,310 --> 01:57:01,140
here? The country? It's a good
one No, no, none of the country.

2056
01:57:01,890 --> 01:57:07,020
This fits neatly into an
executive order. Or a executive

2057
01:57:07,020 --> 01:57:11,580
pardon from President Biden,
which came out the day before

2058
01:57:11,580 --> 01:57:12,900
yesterday, President

2059
01:57:12,900 --> 01:57:15,960
Unknown: Joe Biden will pardoned
1000s of US military veterans

2060
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:19,980
who were convicted under a law
that banned gay sex article 125

2061
01:57:19,980 --> 01:57:23,670
of the Uniform Code of Military
Justice was in place from 1951

2062
01:57:23,670 --> 01:57:28,290
through 2013 1000s of service
members were convicted and faced

2063
01:57:28,290 --> 01:57:31,680
court martialed during that
time, President Biden said in a

2064
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,710
statement that he's writing a
wrong for those service members

2065
01:57:34,710 --> 01:57:37,980
who were convicted for simply
being themselves. The White

2066
01:57:37,980 --> 01:57:40,950
House says 1000s of veterans
will be impacted by the move.

2067
01:57:41,130 --> 01:57:44,400
Anyone convicted for non
consensual acts will not be

2068
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:45,000
pardoned.

2069
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,730
Adam Curry: Now, this is
interesting, from a number of

2070
01:57:47,730 --> 01:57:51,480
perspectives. First of all, this
was overturned in 2013 during

2071
01:57:51,480 --> 01:58:00,390
Obama, but the actual article
125 is being played every day.

2072
01:58:00,450 --> 01:58:07,230
If you just do a search,
article, code, USC 925, article

2073
01:58:07,230 --> 01:58:13,530
125, you'll get LGBTQ LGBTQ
pride flags, all beautiful, it's

2074
01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:18,540
all great go, Joe. But this was
actually about one thing, sodomy

2075
01:58:20,220 --> 01:58:25,920
wasn't a gay thing, per se. It
was it was obviously not a very

2076
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:30,570
modern thought. But any person
subject to this chapter who

2077
01:58:30,570 --> 01:58:35,130
engages in unnatural carnal
copulation with another person

2078
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:40,170
of the same or opposite sex or
with an animal is guilty of

2079
01:58:40,170 --> 01:58:44,550
sodomy. penetration, however
slight, is sufficient to

2080
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:45,810
complete the offense.

2081
01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:50,520
Unknown: Just wanted to be
correct on that.

2082
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:55,110
Adam Curry: Thought it was
interesting. Yeah.

2083
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:59,160
John C Dvorak: This is a another
lame attempt by Biden to buy

2084
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,430
votes. Yeah. LGBT, as it turns
out, that everybody that was

2085
01:59:02,430 --> 01:59:05,520
kicked out, will get money, they
get the money that they would

2086
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:10,710
have had. And if they're dead,
your family will get the money.

2087
01:59:10,710 --> 01:59:13,560
Somebody gets money. Yeah, yeah.
So there's another giveaway.

2088
01:59:13,590 --> 01:59:14,190
Yes.

2089
01:59:15,630 --> 01:59:19,590
Unknown: Yes. Yes. You're right.

2090
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,580
John C Dvorak: There's he does a
good job of that. Yeah. Well, he

2091
01:59:23,580 --> 01:59:30,270
Adam Curry: also, he tried that
with the he tried that with the

2092
01:59:30,330 --> 01:59:32,970
was it the student loans?

2093
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,330
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we take
down a couple of shots at that.

2094
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:40,200
That got turned down. Dad got
turned down. They got rebooted.

2095
01:59:40,260 --> 01:59:40,650
Yeah, let

2096
01:59:40,650 --> 01:59:41,610
Adam Curry: me see. I think I
have it

2097
01:59:41,610 --> 01:59:45,060
John C Dvorak: here. And some
people do have some free money.

2098
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:49,410
Adam Curry: Let me see. Well,
actually, let me see, says MDC.

2099
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:49,890
Tonight

2100
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,710
Unknown: a campaign promise
aimed at millions of student

2101
01:59:52,710 --> 01:59:54,600
borrowers, is in the balance.

2102
01:59:55,260 --> 01:59:58,320
We made a commitment to fix our
broken student loan system broke

2103
01:59:58,320 --> 01:59:58,680
one of

2104
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:02,160
President Biden's programs to
slash student loan debt is

2105
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:06,150
partially on hold. After two
federal judges temporarily

2106
02:00:06,150 --> 02:00:10,860
blocked further relief from
what's known as the safe plan. 8

2107
02:00:10,860 --> 02:00:13,950
million borrowers are enrolled
in the program that ties the

2108
02:00:13,950 --> 02:00:18,540
amount of loan repayment to
income and family size. Under

2109
02:00:18,540 --> 02:00:22,770
its rules, about 4 million
borrowers qualify for no monthly

2110
02:00:22,770 --> 02:00:26,850
payment, others get a deep
reduction. Austin Davis is a

2111
02:00:26,850 --> 02:00:30,030
special education teacher who
says he and his wife Brooke saw

2112
02:00:30,030 --> 02:00:36,090
their monthly payments dropped
from nearly $1,600 down to $480.

2113
02:00:36,150 --> 02:00:41,130
Without this, we would not have
been able to afford the cost to

2114
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:44,700
be able to have our own house to
live with our daughter.

2115
02:00:44,820 --> 02:00:47,520
Two separate lawsuits were
brought by Republican attorneys

2116
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:51,390
general across 18 states,
arguing that the education

2117
02:00:51,390 --> 02:00:54,570
secretary overstepped his
authority, and that states

2118
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,010
holding loans could

2119
02:00:56,010 --> 02:00:57,180
be harmed. But

2120
02:00:57,180 --> 02:01:01,350
President has no textual basis
in law for this plan, and

2121
02:01:01,350 --> 02:01:03,750
I'm not gonna let Joe Biden
saddle working misery families

2122
02:01:03,750 --> 02:01:04,320
with ivy league

2123
02:01:04,740 --> 02:01:08,400
education secretary Miguel
Cardona late today, people

2124
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:13,260
shouldn't have to choose between
groceries and the student loans.

2125
02:01:13,290 --> 02:01:15,630
Some Republicans are working
harder to stop what we're doing

2126
02:01:15,630 --> 02:01:17,820
to help than to offer any
solutions.

2127
02:01:18,330 --> 02:01:21,960
The administration says it
intends to vigorously defend the

2128
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:22,980
relief program.

2129
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:24,300
God

2130
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:28,920
Adam Curry: just more left,
right, left, right. Get mad.

2131
02:01:30,060 --> 02:01:32,370
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was she
get mad. Hey, Tina,

2132
02:01:32,370 --> 02:01:35,100
Adam Curry: I went to the school
board meeting here last Tuesday.

2133
02:01:36,780 --> 02:01:40,800
Okay, why? Oh, it was? Well,
because we were asked to come

2134
02:01:42,690 --> 02:01:46,980
and be in the audience. Because
a number of people were going to

2135
02:01:46,980 --> 02:01:50,160
speak against the books. And I
thought, well, this is I'd like

2136
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,530
to know what's going on with
this. You know, this is all the

2137
02:01:52,950 --> 02:01:56,340
all the books all the I have
examples in the book these

2138
02:01:56,340 --> 02:01:58,320
books, I would not even read
them on the show.

2139
02:01:58,860 --> 02:02:01,680
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I mean,
books that promoting sodomy.

2140
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:02,730
That should bring it out. Yeah,

2141
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,610
Adam Curry: I mean, really, like
with your grandpa and all kinds

2142
02:02:05,610 --> 02:02:10,740
of was really weird. And so it's
gotten to the point where these

2143
02:02:10,740 --> 02:02:14,880
books are in the Fredericksburg
school, but they're in a special

2144
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:19,110
room that's locked in, you have
to get parent's permission to go

2145
02:02:19,110 --> 02:02:23,040
in and read them. Which of
course nobody does. No, of

2146
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:27,300
course not. Why would you and so
a number of people spoke a lot

2147
02:02:27,300 --> 02:02:31,710
of very, very upset moms. And
Charlie was amazing. Everyone

2148
02:02:31,710 --> 02:02:34,230
just just looked at them, or
didn't even look at them,

2149
02:02:34,230 --> 02:02:37,290
really. And then the meeting
just kept on going. No, there

2150
02:02:37,290 --> 02:02:43,110
was no discussion about it. And
I realized, everyone's in, like

2151
02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:45,900
iron. So just you know, they're
like, they're stuck. No one can

2152
02:02:45,900 --> 02:02:49,380
say anything. No one can discuss
it. They the school board has

2153
02:02:49,380 --> 02:02:52,230
been told that they can't get
rid of these books, because then

2154
02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:55,860
the ACLU will sue them
personally. The whole thing is

2155
02:02:55,890 --> 02:03:00,690
is a mess. And meanwhile, the
handing out trophies, I swear to

2156
02:03:00,690 --> 02:03:03,780
God a trophy, three feet high to
a teacher with the best

2157
02:03:03,780 --> 02:03:06,990
attendance record. That was the
most bizarre thing I've ever

2158
02:03:06,990 --> 02:03:13,980
seen. No clapping, no clapping.
Yay. It was it was it's sad,

2159
02:03:13,980 --> 02:03:17,280
really. And then you hear the
moms like, well, they're not

2160
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,680
learning anything. They're on
their phone three hours a day.

2161
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:24,060
And it's like, what is going on?
We've gotten to this point where

2162
02:03:24,090 --> 02:03:27,960
the schools are no good. It's
completely rotten to the core.

2163
02:03:28,140 --> 02:03:31,170
And there's some administrator
who no one wanted the job that

2164
02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:33,630
to bring some guy in from Tyler,
Texas. He doesn't even live

2165
02:03:33,630 --> 02:03:39,750
here. And yeah, and I don't
know, it's just this You're

2166
02:03:39,750 --> 02:03:42,600
right. The schools are no good.
They have to blow it up somehow.

2167
02:03:42,810 --> 02:03:43,560
I mean, I don't know how

2168
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:46,260
John C Dvorak: they're gonna do
it. It's very difficult. Yeah,

2169
02:03:46,290 --> 02:03:49,260
well, you can't they can't fix
it. It's not fixable. It looks

2170
02:03:49,260 --> 02:03:50,280
like really

2171
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,850
Adam Curry: doesn't look like
it's fixable. It really doesn't.

2172
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:58,740
It's just it's a big problem.
And I'm sure that this is just a

2173
02:03:58,740 --> 02:04:01,200
microcosm of what's going on
everywhere. No,

2174
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:04,800
John C Dvorak: it's probably
worse everywhere else. Yeah. I

2175
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:06,360
would have to assume but people

2176
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,670
Adam Curry: aren't. I mean,
there aren't even engaging in

2177
02:04:08,670 --> 02:04:11,670
discussion. Just like okay,
thanks. Next. All right. You got

2178
02:04:11,670 --> 02:04:15,450
something to say all right.
Yeah. Pastor Mike gets up read

2179
02:04:15,450 --> 02:04:18,690
some Bible stuff, you know,
beautiful. No, no. All right.

2180
02:04:18,690 --> 02:04:22,200
Thanks, Pastor Mike. All right,
let's get off the stage. Let's

2181
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:22,980
get to the budget.

2182
02:04:24,150 --> 02:04:26,430
John C Dvorak: What? Get off
this stage.

2183
02:04:27,990 --> 02:04:30,870
Adam Curry: They didn't say that
but well, they were thinking it

2184
02:04:30,930 --> 02:04:33,720
I'm thinking of homeschooling
people homeschooling is the way

2185
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:35,430
to go. You gotta have a horse.
Sometimes

2186
02:04:35,430 --> 02:04:37,710
John C Dvorak: something has to
be some something has to be read

2187
02:04:37,710 --> 02:04:42,450
and read rethought. Let's talk a
little bit about this. About

2188
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:45,450
another thing is not covered
much by the mainstream, which is

2189
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:47,490
Evie dissatisfaction.

2190
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:48,540
Adam Curry: Oh, well,

2191
02:04:48,570 --> 02:04:51,690
John C Dvorak: I love evey
dissatisfaction. Oh, you're just

2192
02:04:51,690 --> 02:04:55,080
satisfied. You're even have an
Eevee but you said Ed,

2193
02:04:55,110 --> 02:04:57,570
Adam Curry: I got Evie
dissatisfaction. Yes. Okay.

2194
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:02,670
Unknown: Let's play it. Any
survey says that 46% of American

2195
02:05:02,700 --> 02:05:07,320
Evie owners are likely to switch
back to gas cars. And to these

2196
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:10,380
David Lam hears from some
Californians who either love

2197
02:05:10,380 --> 02:05:13,530
their EVs or have the best of
both worlds.

2198
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:17,940
That's only 24 McKinsey and
Company mobility consumer global

2199
02:05:17,940 --> 02:05:22,290
survey shows 46% of Eevee owners
surveyed in the United States

2200
02:05:22,350 --> 02:05:26,250
said they will likely return to
driving gas powered vehicles.

2201
02:05:26,610 --> 02:05:32,370
Worldwide. That number is 29%
Among 30,000 respondents in 15

2202
02:05:32,370 --> 02:05:36,690
countries, but in California a
handful of Eevee owners entity

2203
02:05:36,690 --> 02:05:39,660
spoke to said they love their
vehicles

2204
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:43,680
in California I think it makes
sense to use EB cough because

2205
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:47,880
the gas prices are higher than
the other states and there are

2206
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:50,130
some incentives to use it
because

2207
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:53,580
I could never imagine paying for
gas again. I had to rent a car

2208
02:05:53,790 --> 02:05:57,780
for a week and I was like, oh my
god, this is just just being at

2209
02:05:57,780 --> 02:06:00,930
a gas station and spending like
$100 For

2210
02:06:00,930 --> 02:06:03,840
those wanting to return to
driving gas powered cars

2211
02:06:03,870 --> 02:06:09,330
Australia topped the list with
39% confirming so the lack of

2212
02:06:09,330 --> 02:06:12,780
public charging stations was the
main reason the other reasons

2213
02:06:12,780 --> 02:06:17,340
were the inability to charge at
home 24% And too much worry and

2214
02:06:17,340 --> 02:06:21,690
stress about charging 21% white
knuckle some in California say

2215
02:06:21,690 --> 02:06:24,180
there are plenty compared to
other states

2216
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:31,260
Well we actually live in LA
round a lot faster you can use

2217
02:06:31,260 --> 02:06:34,680
all the commuter lanes and
there's a lot of places to

2218
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:36,870
charge and gas just got so
expensive.

2219
02:06:37,110 --> 02:06:40,050
The only reason why I really
bought it is because my company

2220
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:47,130
gives me free charging but I'm
okay with electric so far.

2221
02:06:47,190 --> 02:06:51,270
Adam Curry: Yeah, but wait until
they get the per mile tax. They

2222
02:06:51,270 --> 02:06:52,170
won't be so I like the

2223
02:06:52,170 --> 02:06:54,690
John C Dvorak: idea that I like
this electric car because my

2224
02:06:54,690 --> 02:06:58,350
company gives me free
electricity. So you drive into

2225
02:06:58,350 --> 02:07:01,320
work you work eight hours at the
company and this charge in your

2226
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:06,300
car for free to get electric car
to you if I had that deal. Now,

2227
02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:09,120
here's the kicker in part two of
this clip alright.

2228
02:07:09,180 --> 02:07:12,720
Unknown: In some say they still
need gas cars such as for heavy

2229
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:15,330
lifting and long distances. If

2230
02:07:15,870 --> 02:07:18,930
you've got a trailer with cattle
in it, you're gonna do that with

2231
02:07:18,930 --> 02:07:23,460
electric vehicle, pulling it up.
No Hills for sure. Some people

2232
02:07:23,460 --> 02:07:27,210
will have to have gas because
this kind of thing. I

2233
02:07:27,210 --> 02:07:31,590
like it a lot because my other
car is a VA and I use that for

2234
02:07:31,590 --> 02:07:37,410
weekend. And I still like that
sound of the VA car. According

2235
02:07:37,410 --> 02:07:40,740
to the Bloomberg Nef. The
upcoming presidential election

2236
02:07:40,770 --> 02:07:45,000
also caused the jitters in the
US Evie market slowing down Evie

2237
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:48,540
adoption this year. In the
landmark 2021 infrastructure

2238
02:07:48,540 --> 02:07:52,920
investment and jobs act,
lawmakers approved $7.5 billion

2239
02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:57,960
to build 500,000 public charging
stations nationwide along

2240
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:01,770
interstates today. It's only
eight public Evie charging

2241
02:08:01,770 --> 02:08:05,280
stations have been deployed in
the US now that we all know that

2242
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:06,480
500,000

2243
02:08:06,510 --> 02:08:09,390
John C Dvorak: Does you remember
when he when Biden ran against

2244
02:08:09,390 --> 02:08:12,900
Trump the first time? Yeah, oh,
we're gonna Bill 500,000 It's

2245
02:08:12,900 --> 02:08:17,430
gonna be good union paying jobs.
And after four years, we've got

2246
02:08:17,460 --> 02:08:19,650
eight, eight. Well,

2247
02:08:19,650 --> 02:08:23,400
Adam Curry: yes, we know this.
Because this is in fact, I have.

2248
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:26,460
How about this from 2019. From
the debates,

2249
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:30,540
Unknown: my plan calls for
500,000 charging stations around

2250
02:08:30,540 --> 02:08:35,100
the country. So by 2030, we're
all electric vehicles. There you

2251
02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:35,400
go.

2252
02:08:36,660 --> 02:08:41,130
Adam Curry: That's from the 2019
debates for the 2020 election.

2253
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:45,720
That was the plan. And we know
that Pete Buttigieg was called

2254
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:46,230
out on it.

2255
02:08:46,260 --> 02:08:48,390
Unknown: Let me ask you about a
portion of this that I think

2256
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:50,700
does fall under your portfolio.
And that's the charging

2257
02:08:50,700 --> 02:08:53,850
stations. You mentioned, the
Federal Highway Administration

2258
02:08:53,850 --> 02:08:56,610
says only seven or eight
charging stations have been

2259
02:08:56,610 --> 02:08:59,550
produced for the seven and a
half billion investment that

2260
02:08:59,550 --> 02:09:03,540
taxpayers made back in 2021. Why
isn't that happening more

2261
02:09:03,540 --> 02:09:04,170
quickly. So

2262
02:09:04,170 --> 02:09:06,510
the President's goal is to have
half a million chargers up by

2263
02:09:06,510 --> 02:09:09,810
the end of this decade. Now in
order to do a charger. It's more

2264
02:09:09,810 --> 02:09:13,140
than just plugging a small
device into the ground. There's

2265
02:09:13,140 --> 02:09:17,310
utility work. And this is also
really a new category of federal

2266
02:09:17,310 --> 02:09:20,100
investment. But we've been
working with each of the 50

2267
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:22,680
states, every one of them is
getting formula dollars to do

2268
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:25,980
this work, engaging them and the
first handful again by

2269
02:09:25,980 --> 02:09:30,660
2030 500,000 chargers, and the
very first handful of chargers

2270
02:09:30,780 --> 02:09:33,270
are now already being physically
built. Hey, here's

2271
02:09:33,270 --> 02:09:37,110
Adam Curry: the thought. Did the
money's gone? How about that?

2272
02:09:37,650 --> 02:09:40,740
The money was spent on something
else it was oh,

2273
02:09:40,740 --> 02:09:42,570
John C Dvorak: that's an
interesting idea. There's no

2274
02:09:42,570 --> 02:09:45,630
more money because I'll tell you
right now down the street for me

2275
02:09:45,630 --> 02:09:52,170
there are can Tesla chargers,
and there are other Tesla

2276
02:09:52,170 --> 02:09:55,770
chargers here and there around
the area. Yeah. And so this and

2277
02:09:55,770 --> 02:09:59,190
they can only the government can
only with their $7 billion can

2278
02:09:59,190 --> 02:10:02,880
only build it Eat. Yeah, it
hasn't been stolen. I think.

2279
02:10:03,270 --> 02:10:06,810
Adam Curry: I think the money's
gone. And Pete knows it. You

2280
02:10:06,810 --> 02:10:09,120
know, hey, it's the end of the
decade. Well, yeah,

2281
02:10:09,150 --> 02:10:12,030
John C Dvorak: 2030 Even if you
got reelected, you wouldn't be

2282
02:10:12,030 --> 02:10:14,220
in office in 2031 of

2283
02:10:14,220 --> 02:10:17,250
Adam Curry: the big things that
that EVs struggle with, of

2284
02:10:17,250 --> 02:10:20,820
course, is the promise of
improved battery technology,

2285
02:10:20,820 --> 02:10:25,860
which never really seems to get
much better. But there is a new

2286
02:10:25,860 --> 02:10:30,780
battery technology that has just
emerged. I'm very bullish on

2287
02:10:30,780 --> 02:10:31,200
this

2288
02:10:31,230 --> 02:10:34,140
Unknown: sound, it's hot enough
to heat your home. Remember how

2289
02:10:34,140 --> 02:10:36,660
you have to jump on the
scorching beach in the summer

2290
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:40,350
sun can store energy like a
battery. This finished company

2291
02:10:40,350 --> 02:10:43,740
is now turning sun into thermal
batteries to heat homes and

2292
02:10:43,740 --> 02:10:46,590
could help help the industry
transition away from fossil

2293
02:10:46,590 --> 02:10:50,310
fuels. They heat up the air with
electrical resistors. The hot

2294
02:10:50,310 --> 02:10:53,310
air circulates through the
coasts and transferring heat,

2295
02:10:53,370 --> 02:10:56,160
the sand can hold its heat for
months and at really high

2296
02:10:56,160 --> 02:11:00,360
temperatures up to 600 degrees
Celsius. It can then be released

2297
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:04,320
as hot water or steam as needed
is a greener cheaper alternative

2298
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:08,070
to lithium batteries. But that's
because the sun is low grade

2299
02:11:08,070 --> 02:11:11,730
plentiful and not suitable for
construction. Globally sand

2300
02:11:11,730 --> 02:11:15,300
mining is notoriously damaging
to the environment. For now.

2301
02:11:15,330 --> 02:11:18,630
This innovation is limited to
regions with abundant clean

2302
02:11:18,630 --> 02:11:21,030
energy sources and sand
supplies.

2303
02:11:21,210 --> 02:11:23,490
Adam Curry: I'm thinking this is
I'm gonna give up on the

2304
02:11:23,490 --> 02:11:28,710
gasifier. I'm gonna give me a
big big vat of sand and make a

2305
02:11:28,710 --> 02:11:29,790
sand battery.

2306
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:37,470
John C Dvorak: Oh please with
such bullcrap battery

2307
02:11:37,530 --> 02:11:41,970
Adam Curry: it's the best. I
mean so sand who knows sand can

2308
02:11:41,970 --> 02:11:46,620
keep a heat for for a month at
600 degrees centigrade.

2309
02:11:47,310 --> 02:11:50,970
John C Dvorak: It has to be well
insulated I'm sure it could. I

2310
02:11:50,970 --> 02:11:53,850
don't believe any of that
actually even insulators is

2311
02:11:53,850 --> 02:11:55,680
better than the assault battery
I love

2312
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:56,550
Adam Curry: you imagined like

2313
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:58,800
John C Dvorak: what do you got
in the backyard there bail on

2314
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:02,370
that the big sand battery thing
is huge.

2315
02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:06,870
Adam Curry: Just have a trailer
behind your Tesla with a big,

2316
02:12:06,900 --> 02:12:11,400
big thing of sand. We'll see.
We'll see till Steven.

2317
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:14,700
John C Dvorak: Whoever gets you
that clip should get an award.

2318
02:12:15,810 --> 02:12:19,650
Unknown: back right now. Extreme
hate baking. Millions of

2319
02:12:19,650 --> 02:12:23,520
Americans were baking heat
advisories in place across the

2320
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:27,180
country. We just saw a weekend
of triple digit temperatures.

2321
02:12:27,210 --> 02:12:30,330
Oh, New York state's Department
of Health reporting hundreds of

2322
02:12:30,330 --> 02:12:35,070
Heatilator emergency emergencies
nearly five times what we see is

2323
02:12:35,070 --> 02:12:37,800
this time of year. Oh well. The
Northeast and mid Atlantic

2324
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:41,730
states are getting a a very,
very short reprieve. The

2325
02:12:41,730 --> 02:12:44,820
Southeast and the southern
plains remain dangerously hot.

2326
02:12:45,060 --> 02:12:48,750
And BCS Erin McLaughlin has more
on this wild weather Aaron.

2327
02:12:49,740 --> 02:12:53,520
Hey there over the weekend here
in New York. It was absolutely

2328
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:57,300
scorching. It's expected to be a
bit better today. But across the

2329
02:12:57,300 --> 02:12:58,980
country, it's still looking
pretty extreme.

2330
02:12:59,220 --> 02:13:02,670
Adam Curry: That's not what so
how's the weather? Hey, in your

2331
02:13:02,940 --> 02:13:05,490
your part of the country, John
across the country, let's talk

2332
02:13:05,490 --> 02:13:08,760
about across the country. How
are you doing over there? Well,

2333
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:10,560
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
what my temperature is around

2334
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:14,280
6768

2335
02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:15,600
Adam Curry: Are you bacon yet?

2336
02:13:16,410 --> 02:13:16,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah,

2337
02:13:17,010 --> 02:13:20,190
Adam Curry: you might bacon. You
must kill it. And yeah, we have

2338
02:13:20,190 --> 02:13:24,030
95 or I have to actually wear a
couple of layers. Right now we

2339
02:13:24,030 --> 02:13:26,100
have 95 which is okay.

2340
02:13:26,130 --> 02:13:28,410
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're got
some tight temperatures. But for

2341
02:13:28,410 --> 02:13:31,500
Texas, I've been to Texas.
Normally it's in the hundreds by

2342
02:13:31,500 --> 02:13:34,890
now. Yeah, normally it's like
105 is dry, though. dry heat.

2343
02:13:35,010 --> 02:13:36,450
Adam Curry: Very dry. Very dry.

2344
02:13:36,900 --> 02:13:39,930
John C Dvorak: I've been to
Texas A bedroom like 108 And it

2345
02:13:39,930 --> 02:13:42,960
wasn't actually very tolerable.
Not like Phoenix.

2346
02:13:42,990 --> 02:13:46,890
Adam Curry: I go I take the dog
out wearing my hoodie. I'm not

2347
02:13:46,890 --> 02:13:47,370
kidding.

2348
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:50,730
John C Dvorak: Well, it's an
insulator. Yeah, but insulation

2349
02:13:50,730 --> 02:13:51,630
goes both ways. It's

2350
02:13:51,630 --> 02:13:54,450
Adam Curry: also it's not cold.
Not hot. Yes. Yes. All right.

2351
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:59,970
Let's go out. This is fine. This
is all lies all lies. And then

2352
02:13:59,970 --> 02:14:02,790
let's bring in the biggest liar
in the universe who is the

2353
02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:06,270
biggest liar when it comes to
climate change? And and by the

2354
02:14:06,270 --> 02:14:10,800
way, he's a dope. We haven't
heard from him for a while. I

2355
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:13,830
don't know Bill Nye the Science
Guy for odd.

2356
02:14:13,860 --> 02:14:16,440
Unknown: For more on what's
driving the extreme weather and

2357
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:21,240
weather the new normal is with
us now. I'm joined by science

2358
02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:24,750
educator, Bill Nye Good. Well,
now he's a science educator,

2359
02:14:24,750 --> 02:14:25,080
John.

2360
02:14:26,850 --> 02:14:29,340
Adam Curry: He used to be a
clown. Was he a rodeo clown or

2361
02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:30,750
something? Now he's building his

2362
02:14:30,750 --> 02:14:32,730
John C Dvorak: eyes. He actually
does have a degree in like

2363
02:14:32,730 --> 02:14:34,860
electrical engineering. Yes,
he's

2364
02:14:34,860 --> 02:14:35,550
Adam Curry: an educator.

2365
02:14:35,580 --> 02:14:39,030
Unknown: I'm joined by science
educator, Bill Nye. Good

2366
02:14:39,030 --> 02:14:41,820
morning, Bill. It's so great to
have you with us this morning.

2367
02:14:41,820 --> 02:14:44,400
There are very few people
watching us this morning who

2368
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:47,940
aren't experiencing sweltering
heat

2369
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:52,110
John C Dvorak: around the world
that summer

2370
02:14:52,140 --> 02:14:54,300
Unknown: flooding wildfires.

2371
02:14:54,330 --> 02:14:56,670
John C Dvorak: Yes it gets
summer's day officially has been

2372
02:14:56,670 --> 02:14:58,680
summer for a week. Some are

2373
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:00,990
Adam Curry: all very few people
haven't been The witnessing the

2374
02:15:00,990 --> 02:15:03,630
sweltering heat. Oh, wow.

2375
02:15:03,660 --> 02:15:06,450
Unknown: Give us your read on
that. Is this the new normal?

2376
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:08,100
Adam Curry: These are the new
normal.

2377
02:15:08,130 --> 02:15:10,500
John C Dvorak: Oh, that we have
a hot summer is that what he's

2378
02:15:10,620 --> 02:15:14,850
she's asking how the new normal
that summer is going to be warm.

2379
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:19,590
Adam Curry: When is the first
time we heard new normal? Whoo.

2380
02:15:20,190 --> 02:15:21,960
John C Dvorak: That's that's a
good one

2381
02:15:22,170 --> 02:15:26,580
Unknown: 2012 of the soybean
crop is rated very poor to poor

2382
02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:31,920
66% of the nation's hay fields
are in drought. So is 73% of the

2383
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:32,880
cattle land.

2384
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:36,180
This could be the new normal in
the United States. And so we

2385
02:15:36,180 --> 02:15:39,420
need to plan ahead because we
know and the science tells us

2386
02:15:39,540 --> 02:15:42,750
that under a changing climate,
droughts will be more frequent

2387
02:15:42,780 --> 02:15:44,730
and more intense across the
United States.

2388
02:15:45,690 --> 02:15:46,530
John C Dvorak: And Minnesota,

2389
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:49,800
Adam Curry: so it was the new
normal in 2012. It was the new

2390
02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:51,690
normal, but is this the new
normal?

2391
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:54,690
Unknown: Give us your read on
that? Is this the new normal?

2392
02:15:55,650 --> 02:15:56,310
It's

2393
02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:57,930
the beginning of the new normal.

2394
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:01,260
Adam Curry: It's the beginning
of the new normal. So

2395
02:16:01,260 --> 02:16:03,270
John C Dvorak: the beginning of
the day, at least from our

2396
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:05,580
perspective was in 2012, I guess
not

2397
02:16:05,610 --> 02:16:07,980
Adam Curry: know, well, hey,
you're not a science educator.

2398
02:16:07,980 --> 02:16:09,090
So it's

2399
02:16:09,090 --> 02:16:12,270
Unknown: the beginning of the
new normal with respect. So the

2400
02:16:12,270 --> 02:16:16,230
latest the latest research is
that there's not a turning point

2401
02:16:16,230 --> 02:16:19,200
or a tipping point or a knee in
the curve. It's just gonna get

2402
02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:22,260
hotter and hotter and worse and
worse and more and more extreme.

2403
02:16:22,740 --> 02:16:28,590
So this is a taste of the normal
of the future unless we it's the

2404
02:16:28,590 --> 02:16:32,760
future normal humankind get to
work on a dress it wow, this is

2405
02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:33,870
so great. Yeah.

2406
02:16:34,530 --> 02:16:36,870
Adam Curry: I think we need to
know what we can do about this.

2407
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:41,430
I mean, we're obviously it's,
it's we're baking. This is

2408
02:16:41,460 --> 02:16:46,020
excoriating people are just, we
can't stand it anymore. What can

2409
02:16:46,020 --> 02:16:48,120
we do Bill Nye science guy? What

2410
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:51,240
Unknown: do we need to do right
now, in your view?

2411
02:16:52,050 --> 02:16:54,780
Well, there's two things.
Everybody I say this all the

2412
02:16:54,780 --> 02:16:57,930
time. The first thing is talk
about climate change.

2413
02:16:58,110 --> 02:16:59,280
Adam Curry: Guy talk about it.

2414
02:17:01,020 --> 02:17:03,720
John C Dvorak: Because nobody's
talking about it. No reason not

2415
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:06,510
Unknown: enough. If we were
talking with our families and

2416
02:17:06,510 --> 02:17:08,220
friends up, John,

2417
02:17:08,819 --> 02:17:10,019
I want to have a chat with you

2418
02:17:11,430 --> 02:17:15,150
Adam Curry: about climate
change. Okay. What are you doing

2419
02:17:15,180 --> 02:17:16,800
to stop climate change?

2420
02:17:17,399 --> 02:17:21,899
John C Dvorak: I'm stopped, I
stopped listening to talking

2421
02:17:21,899 --> 02:17:23,999
about climate change. It's all
they talk about

2422
02:17:24,090 --> 02:17:28,290
Unknown: and people we vote for
your climate change, we'd be

2423
02:17:28,290 --> 02:17:30,390
much more inclined to do
something about it. And then the

2424
02:17:30,390 --> 02:17:33,390
other thing I always say is
vote. We have

2425
02:17:35,100 --> 02:17:37,020
John C Dvorak: he says we're
we'd be more inclined to do

2426
02:17:37,020 --> 02:17:37,890
something about it.

2427
02:17:38,189 --> 02:17:41,159
Unknown: What votes he says
votes, so we

2428
02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:43,770
John C Dvorak: have a crack.
Nevermind.

2429
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:47,610
Unknown: Now here in the United
States where one side one

2430
02:17:47,610 --> 02:17:51,450
political party isn't
acknowledging the problem, let

2431
02:17:51,450 --> 02:17:53,940
alone coming up with a plan to
do something about it.

2432
02:17:53,940 --> 02:17:58,260
Furthermore, the other side is
kowtowing is doing what the

2433
02:17:58,260 --> 02:18:02,160
fossil fuel industry wants to
do. And as Upton Sinclair said,

2434
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:06,750
it's hard for a man to change
his mind when his income depends

2435
02:18:06,750 --> 02:18:08,430
on not changing his mind.

2436
02:18:08,459 --> 02:18:11,579
Adam Curry: Hello, what you said
being self made you cope due to

2437
02:18:11,579 --> 02:18:15,989
health. That's right. You can't
change bill Nyes mind because

2438
02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:21,419
his income depends on his income
depends on this nonsense. It

2439
02:18:21,419 --> 02:18:25,559
really is. Yeah, climate, you
know, there was this article,

2440
02:18:25,769 --> 02:18:30,029
you everyone was tweeting it and
look at this. How's this

2441
02:18:30,029 --> 02:18:34,619
possible? Washington Post? The
scariest thing about climate

2442
02:18:34,619 --> 02:18:40,859
change? Question mark. global
cooling. Now, did you see this?

2443
02:18:40,859 --> 02:18:42,209
Did you see this? No,

2444
02:18:42,209 --> 02:18:44,069
John C Dvorak: I maybe I read

2445
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,210
Adam Curry: it because no one
really read it. Oh, please

2446
02:18:48,210 --> 02:18:50,730
John C Dvorak: can we get over
this whole thing? But okay,

2447
02:18:50,760 --> 02:18:51,090
here's

2448
02:18:51,120 --> 02:18:54,060
Adam Curry: so the the byline
we've been accidentally cooling

2449
02:18:54,060 --> 02:18:59,490
the planet and it's about to
stop. Humans fossil fuel burning

2450
02:18:59,490 --> 02:19:02,130
has cooled the planet while
warming it.

2451
02:19:03,450 --> 02:19:05,850
John C Dvorak: That means
nothing. But yeah, I think you

2452
02:19:05,850 --> 02:19:07,650
made the right sound. Sorry.

2453
02:19:08,790 --> 02:19:12,990
Adam Curry: So the idea is that
because we've been cleaning up

2454
02:19:12,990 --> 02:19:17,130
air pollution by not burning
fossil fuels, all those little

2455
02:19:17,130 --> 02:19:21,000
Ed bits of particles from
combustion of coal, oil and gas,

2456
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:25,590
they actually reflect sunlight
and spur the formation of clouds

2457
02:19:25,590 --> 02:19:29,100
shading the planet from the
sun's rays. But since we're

2458
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:33,750
cleaning up our act, now we have
less clouds. I know where this

2459
02:19:33,750 --> 02:19:36,930
is leading by the way, we have
less clouds. So now the planet

2460
02:19:36,930 --> 02:19:41,430
will warm even faster, because
we're doing such a good job of

2461
02:19:41,430 --> 02:19:47,610
stopping climate change. Now, of
course, what they're trying to

2462
02:19:47,610 --> 02:19:54,150
do here is twofold. One is we
have to work even faster. To

2463
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:56,910
start to, you know to get
everyone in an electric vehicle

2464
02:19:56,910 --> 02:19:58,860
with eight charging stations
work

2465
02:19:58,860 --> 02:20:02,280
John C Dvorak: even faster
before Because of the sunspot

2466
02:20:02,280 --> 02:20:07,590
cycles before things turn around
naturally Exactly. We have to

2467
02:20:07,590 --> 02:20:11,070
work faster because once they
start turning around naturally

2468
02:20:11,070 --> 02:20:13,020
then the jig is up. We're
already

2469
02:20:13,020 --> 02:20:15,900
Adam Curry: there. The solar
cycle has already peaked at this

2470
02:20:15,900 --> 02:20:20,610
is why it's only 95 They're
gaslighting a surprise.

2471
02:20:22,260 --> 02:20:24,960
John C Dvorak: What and it's
gambling. And I

2472
02:20:24,960 --> 02:20:27,870
Adam Curry: think this is also a
nod towards Bill Gates's.

2473
02:20:29,580 --> 02:20:33,330
Climate, geoengineering sprains,
you know, creating clouds

2474
02:20:33,330 --> 02:20:36,600
spraying stuff in the air. Yeah,
I think this will be Mr.

2475
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:37,020
chairman

2476
02:20:37,020 --> 02:20:39,150
John C Dvorak: at the entire
world's environment. That's a

2477
02:20:39,150 --> 02:20:40,140
great idea.

2478
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:42,570
Adam Curry: But let's go back to
the Science Guy, the educator,

2479
02:20:42,570 --> 02:20:42,750
if

2480
02:20:42,750 --> 02:20:46,950
Unknown: you meet with people
who who don't believe in climate

2481
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:50,010
change, don't believe in global
warming, and then

2482
02:20:50,310 --> 02:20:53,310
John C Dvorak: stop stop. You
notice that they have to use the

2483
02:20:53,310 --> 02:20:56,580
word believe as though it was a
faith to

2484
02:20:56,580 --> 02:20:59,790
Adam Curry: correct. And notice
she says global warming and not

2485
02:20:59,790 --> 02:21:00,780
climate change.

2486
02:21:02,910 --> 02:21:05,400
John C Dvorak: That's your if
you're a believer,

2487
02:21:05,820 --> 02:21:08,100
Adam Curry: yes. If you believe
same thing, it's climate ism.

2488
02:21:08,130 --> 02:21:12,540
Unknown: If you meet with people
who who don't believe in climate

2489
02:21:12,540 --> 02:21:16,140
change, don't believe in global
warming. And there are a lot of

2490
02:21:16,140 --> 02:21:19,710
them. What do you say to them?
What do you say to them to

2491
02:21:19,710 --> 02:21:20,610
convince them

2492
02:21:20,670 --> 02:21:25,620
believe? So if I could convince
people in one sitting, that

2493
02:21:25,620 --> 02:21:29,610
would be fabulous, but that is
proven quite difficult. I tell

2494
02:21:29,610 --> 02:21:33,570
everybody it takes it takes
years for people see the

2495
02:21:33,570 --> 02:21:38,190
evidence, see the evidence. And
the problem we have in climate

2496
02:21:38,190 --> 02:21:42,060
change is a 911 or a Pearl
Harbor,

2497
02:21:42,090 --> 02:21:47,550
Adam Curry: we need a 911. Okay,
we need a 911 or you see

2498
02:21:47,550 --> 02:21:50,490
telegraphing something here.
This is how you gotta be

2499
02:21:50,490 --> 02:21:51,990
careful. This science educator.

2500
02:21:52,380 --> 02:21:55,710
John C Dvorak: What? What could
you possibly happen? Anything

2501
02:21:55,710 --> 02:21:59,130
this naturally happens, it
reverses the situation like a

2502
02:21:59,130 --> 02:22:01,410
big volcano going off. It cools
the earth?

2503
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:06,600
Adam Curry: Well, we need some
kind of 911 I don't know what is

2504
02:22:08,010 --> 02:22:12,270
Unknown: not coming. And the
problem we have in climate

2505
02:22:12,270 --> 02:22:16,890
change is we don't have a 911 or
a Pearl Harbor. It's just too

2506
02:22:16,890 --> 02:22:19,260
bad. It's slow motion, because
you

2507
02:22:19,260 --> 02:22:22,050
Adam Curry: know, 911 That
didn't kill anybody. Oh, yeah, a

2508
02:22:22,050 --> 02:22:24,750
million Iraqis. Yeah, we need
one of those.

2509
02:22:24,900 --> 02:22:29,010
Unknown: So everybody that I
speak with acknowledges that the

2510
02:22:29,010 --> 02:22:30,270
climate is changing

2511
02:22:34,860 --> 02:22:36,990
John C Dvorak: every leg of
course, because it's always

2512
02:22:36,990 --> 02:22:39,810
changing. It does that
historically is what it does.

2513
02:22:40,260 --> 02:22:41,100
The nudge

2514
02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:45,540
Unknown: that we work on people
on my side of this is pointing

2515
02:22:45,540 --> 02:22:50,010
out that humans are causing it
and we're doing it because we've

2516
02:22:50,010 --> 02:22:54,000
been we've had created this
wonderful quality of life for so

2517
02:22:54,000 --> 02:22:58,860
many people by burning bed
carbon ancient swamps a coal,

2518
02:22:59,250 --> 02:23:02,370
oil gas. We just got to stop
doing that.

2519
02:23:02,430 --> 02:23:04,050
Yeah, you first bill.

2520
02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:14,550
Adam Curry: I got a actually I
have a quick update both the

2521
02:23:14,550 --> 02:23:18,060
boots on the ground. But here is
the this. We're kind of low.

2522
02:23:18,060 --> 02:23:20,130
We're kind of low and slow on
the bird flu.

2523
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:22,470
Unknown: The United States
government is working to fund a

2524
02:23:22,470 --> 02:23:26,430
human bird flu vaccine trial for
Maderna. According to a report

2525
02:23:26,430 --> 02:23:30,390
by the Financial Times. Right
now, h five and one bird flu is

2526
02:23:30,390 --> 02:23:33,840
spreading among wild birds,
causing outbreaks in poultry and

2527
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:37,440
dairy cows. The USDA has also
detected the virus in our

2528
02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:42,000
nation's milk supply. On April
24, the USDA announced a federal

2529
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:45,000
order requiring lactating dairy
cows be tested.

2530
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:48,510
Adam Curry: I love the lactating
dairy cows. If they're not

2531
02:23:48,510 --> 02:23:51,060
lactating does not count chest

2532
02:23:51,060 --> 02:23:54,330
Unknown: feeders prior to
interstate movement announcing

2533
02:23:54,330 --> 02:23:57,420
financial assistance for
producers with affected herds.

2534
02:23:57,750 --> 02:24:00,780
Just this week, I will Governor
Kim Reynolds issued a disaster

2535
02:24:00,780 --> 02:24:04,500
proclamation for Sue County,
Iowa, after it was revealed that

2536
02:24:04,500 --> 02:24:07,770
more than 4 million chickens
would have to be killed after a

2537
02:24:07,770 --> 02:24:12,360
bird flu outbreak at a farm and
two dairy workers one in Texas

2538
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:14,760
and one in Michigan. contracted
the virus

2539
02:24:14,880 --> 02:24:17,490
John C Dvorak: guys Yeah, yeah,
they haven't even gotten their

2540
02:24:17,490 --> 02:24:21,390
same two guys that were infected
months ago. If they recover or

2541
02:24:21,390 --> 02:24:25,260
this is still the way they've
recovered a spear head guy they

2542
02:24:25,260 --> 02:24:27,720
Adam Curry: recovered luckily
they recovered one intact Oh,

2543
02:24:27,720 --> 02:24:31,950
they got lucky. Yeah, the so
lucky pink. They had pinkeye

2544
02:24:32,280 --> 02:24:35,310
Unknown: contracted the virus
and last two months. However,

2545
02:24:35,340 --> 02:24:39,240
they've since both recovered
Disease Control says the current

2546
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:40,950
public health risk is low.

2547
02:24:41,430 --> 02:24:45,090
Adam Curry: So I talked to my my
my friends in the testing

2548
02:24:45,090 --> 02:24:49,140
industrial complex. Because you
know CDC had called a meeting of

2549
02:24:49,140 --> 02:24:52,590
all everyone in the complex Hey,
we got Testing, testing,

2550
02:24:52,590 --> 02:24:54,660
testing, testing, we gotta do
some testing. Everybody ready

2551
02:24:54,660 --> 02:24:57,810
for some testing? Gotta do some
testing. You're testing. Gotta

2552
02:24:57,810 --> 02:25:02,280
do some testing. So Here is the
report I received. They

2553
02:25:02,280 --> 02:25:09,810
downplayed h five and one and
said risks were low. Then they

2554
02:25:09,810 --> 02:25:14,910
focused on Dengue fever
infections, and the emails

2555
02:25:14,910 --> 02:25:18,840
coming in today our content
heavy. It may only be a topic

2556
02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:22,380
right now because of the summer
weather but I noticed many hot

2557
02:25:22,380 --> 02:25:26,430
words that were reflective of
the COVID 19 speak during the

2558
02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:33,510
pandemic sent some screenshots.
Recommendations for health

2559
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:36,720
providers maintain a high
suspicion for dengue among

2560
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:41,310
patients with fever and recent
travel order appropriate FDA

2561
02:25:41,310 --> 02:25:46,170
approved Dengue tests which are
PCR and do not delay treatment

2562
02:25:46,170 --> 02:25:50,460
waiting for test results to
confirm Dengue gay How many

2563
02:25:50,460 --> 02:25:53,460
times have they tried to Dengue
gay thing is never panned out

2564
02:25:53,460 --> 02:25:54,060
never

2565
02:25:54,090 --> 02:25:56,250
John C Dvorak: know as because
his own is a sub tropical

2566
02:25:56,250 --> 02:26:00,630
diseases pretty hard to get. Now
I had a friend who was an editor

2567
02:26:00,630 --> 02:26:03,000
of mine had Dengue gay yes

2568
02:26:03,090 --> 02:26:05,880
Adam Curry: and younger and
she's dead now She's gone. She's

2569
02:26:05,880 --> 02:26:07,800
now she's founder. But

2570
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:10,590
John C Dvorak: she said is not
as uncomfortable to have but she

2571
02:26:10,590 --> 02:26:13,620
says whatever the case is,
whatever you do never take

2572
02:26:13,620 --> 02:26:17,520
aspirin. That's what kills you.
Really? Yeah, because the

2573
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,900
aspirin is visible like it has a
blood thinning quality to it of

2574
02:26:21,900 --> 02:26:25,170
some sort. And Dengue gays
looking for something like that

2575
02:26:25,170 --> 02:26:28,860
is not no good. You can't use
it. And that's the main thing to

2576
02:26:28,860 --> 02:26:30,660
know. That's all I was told.
That's a

2577
02:26:30,660 --> 02:26:32,910
Adam Curry: good tip. That's it.
That's an actual very good tip

2578
02:26:32,910 --> 02:26:36,600
to tip. The tip of the tip of
the week, of course,

2579
02:26:36,660 --> 02:26:39,090
John C Dvorak: whatever if you
get Danga you know, don't take

2580
02:26:39,090 --> 02:26:41,490
aspirin. Basically. It is good
tip.

2581
02:26:42,690 --> 02:26:45,810
Adam Curry: It is the summer of
course, which means COVID is on

2582
02:26:45,810 --> 02:26:46,920
the rise and another

2583
02:26:46,920 --> 02:26:50,430
Unknown: alert this summer about
a COVID comeback Coast comebacks

2584
02:26:50,430 --> 02:26:54,300
again on the rise fueled by new
variants Lee McLaughlin now with

2585
02:26:54,300 --> 02:26:58,140
the latest updated guidance on
masking and isolation.

2586
02:26:59,880 --> 02:27:03,060
Adam Curry: I play this clip for
you because I guarantee you'll

2587
02:27:03,060 --> 02:27:06,450
be seeing people with masks
everywhere in California.

2588
02:27:07,470 --> 02:27:10,230
Unknown: Tonight for a growing
number of Americans this summer

2589
02:27:10,230 --> 02:27:13,200
of sizzling temps is also the
summer of sick.

2590
02:27:13,710 --> 02:27:17,070
Adam Curry: Oh the sizzling the
summer of sizzling temps is also

2591
02:27:17,070 --> 02:27:18,570
the summer of sick

2592
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:20,910
Unknown: the number of COVID
cases now on the rise

2593
02:27:20,910 --> 02:27:21,900
nationwide, listen

2594
02:27:21,900 --> 02:27:24,780
Adam Curry: to the ambulance
background net pop nice. It's

2595
02:27:24,780 --> 02:27:25,200
also the

2596
02:27:25,200 --> 02:27:28,410
Unknown: summer of sick, the
number of COVID cases now on the

2597
02:27:28,410 --> 02:27:32,370
rise nationwide. 15 states have
higher very high levels of the

2598
02:27:32,370 --> 02:27:36,630
virus in there. According to the
latest data released by the CDC,

2599
02:27:36,690 --> 02:27:37,470
I probably

2600
02:27:37,470 --> 02:27:41,580
characterize it more as a swell.
It's certainly more than we've

2601
02:27:41,580 --> 02:27:43,590
seen in the last few months. As

2602
02:27:43,590 --> 02:27:47,100
people crowd indoors to escape
the heat the virus spreads. This

2603
02:27:47,100 --> 02:27:49,920
year's uptick is thanks to the
so called flirt variants,

2604
02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:53,490
variants of Omicron which now
account for more than 60% of

2605
02:27:53,490 --> 02:27:54,510
COVID cases.

2606
02:27:54,540 --> 02:27:59,580
COVID-19 is indeed becoming more
mild over time population

2607
02:27:59,580 --> 02:28:02,550
immunity has been going up and
therefore the severity of the

2608
02:28:02,550 --> 02:28:05,550
illness has been going down. And
yet it's still worse than the

2609
02:28:05,550 --> 02:28:09,960
flu. Yes. COVID-19 is still
worse than the flu is the flu

2610
02:28:09,960 --> 02:28:13,620
Shut up. The outcomes of
COVID-19 are still worse than

2611
02:28:13,620 --> 02:28:13,950
the flu.

2612
02:28:14,610 --> 02:28:18,630
Doctors say the elderly and
immunocompromised are story.

2613
02:28:19,710 --> 02:28:23,340
Adam Curry: Flu kills a lot of
people every year. Except the

2614
02:28:23,340 --> 02:28:25,710
year that it was gone entirely.
It's so

2615
02:28:25,710 --> 02:28:28,080
John C Dvorak: that was weird.
Strangely

2616
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:28,800
Adam Curry: just got lucky

2617
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:30,930
John C Dvorak: we dodged a
bullet we did. Worse

2618
02:28:30,990 --> 02:28:34,260
Unknown: than the flu the
outcomes of COVID-19 are still

2619
02:28:34,260 --> 02:28:36,150
worse than the flu. Doctors

2620
02:28:36,150 --> 02:28:38,370
say the elderly and
immunocompromised are still at

2621
02:28:38,370 --> 02:28:41,640
high risk of severe disease and
should consider masking in

2622
02:28:41,640 --> 02:28:44,460
public spaces and make sure
they're up to date on their

2623
02:28:44,460 --> 02:28:47,700
vaccines. While preventative
masking for healthy individuals

2624
02:28:47,700 --> 02:28:51,300
is no longer recommended by the
CDC. They say if you're infected

2625
02:28:51,300 --> 02:28:55,920
wearing a mask can prevent
spread. As for isolating the CDC

2626
02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:59,580
has updated their guidance
saying that if you have symptoms

2627
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:03,360
stay isolated otherwise you
don't need to isolate even if

2628
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:06,120
you're testing positive. That
new guidance has raised some

2629
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:09,150
concern among medical experts,
Lester Yeah,

2630
02:29:09,180 --> 02:29:12,600
Adam Curry: CDC says if you test
positive but you don't feel bad

2631
02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:13,620
then just call aside.

2632
02:29:16,290 --> 02:29:18,090
Unknown: Okay, well, I'll take
their word for it.

2633
02:29:18,810 --> 02:29:21,210
Adam Curry: What they what they
missed in that report is to

2634
02:29:21,210 --> 02:29:27,120
promote the I think we're now at
COVID Booster number nine,

2635
02:29:27,780 --> 02:29:30,570
John C Dvorak: I think is number
nine number nine number nine is

2636
02:29:30,570 --> 02:29:32,310
in play number nine and

2637
02:29:32,490 --> 02:29:35,040
Adam Curry: and still with
everything we know all the

2638
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:37,920
models all we know about you
know climate change all the

2639
02:29:37,920 --> 02:29:43,080
things we know about COVID Just
so much incredible science that

2640
02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:47,340
has been done in the past four
years. We still can't figure out

2641
02:29:47,340 --> 02:29:52,770
these strokes and heart attacks.
It's It's baffling everybody but

2642
02:29:52,770 --> 02:29:53,670
we have a new theory.

2643
02:29:53,700 --> 02:29:55,560
Unknown: Dr. Gupta always good
to see you. So talk to us about

2644
02:29:55,560 --> 02:29:58,170
what this study found in terms
of loneliness and how it can

2645
02:29:58,170 --> 02:30:00,870
actually lead to an increased
risk. Stroke,

2646
02:30:00,900 --> 02:30:02,970
Adam Curry: loneliness. How

2647
02:30:02,970 --> 02:30:05,010
Unknown: is that possible that
we're seeing? I mean, this is

2648
02:30:05,010 --> 02:30:06,720
surprising to all of us because

2649
02:30:08,099 --> 02:30:09,989
John C Dvorak: this stuff and
just think about this before you

2650
02:30:09,989 --> 02:30:14,279
continue this clip. So instead
of hypertension or getting

2651
02:30:14,279 --> 02:30:17,519
worked up or getting mad and
angry, because you got to make

2652
02:30:17,519 --> 02:30:20,369
the, you know, messes up to
play. So who knows, what are you

2653
02:30:20,399 --> 02:30:22,949
in with a bunch of people that
are idiots, and you have to get

2654
02:30:23,009 --> 02:30:28,079
screamed at him, which could
just blow a blood vessel, you're

2655
02:30:28,079 --> 02:30:32,459
by yourself with low blood
pressure, semi depressed, you're

2656
02:30:32,459 --> 02:30:36,209
just sitting around maybe
watching television, and boom,

2657
02:30:36,209 --> 02:30:39,389
there goes your stroke, is that
is that what causes strokes,

2658
02:30:39,389 --> 02:30:41,939
loneliness, this seems to be the

2659
02:30:41,940 --> 02:30:42,960
Adam Curry: issue at hand

2660
02:30:43,050 --> 02:30:45,270
Unknown: to all of us, because
there's always thought to be a

2661
02:30:45,270 --> 02:30:47,790
causal link, well, gosh, if
somebody's lonely, maybe they're

2662
02:30:47,880 --> 02:30:50,100
stressed, and then they might
have high blood pressure, and

2663
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:52,080
that could predispose to stroke.
Well, this is saying, we're

2664
02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:52,620
gonna get the

2665
02:30:52,620 --> 02:30:54,570
Adam Curry: opposite of what you
said, if they're lonely, they

2666
02:30:54,570 --> 02:30:56,760
have high blood pressure, and
they're stressed over

2667
02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:59,610
Unknown: all of that. And now
what we're going to look for is

2668
02:30:59,610 --> 02:31:02,040
this loneliness actually causes
inflammation in the body

2669
02:31:02,190 --> 02:31:05,580
inflammation, inflammation, we
think might be causing this

2670
02:31:05,580 --> 02:31:08,010
increased risk of stroke. So
there's a direct link. That's

2671
02:31:08,010 --> 02:31:11,040
what we're saying here between
loneliness, chronic loneliness

2672
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:12,390
and the incidence of stroke.

2673
02:31:12,660 --> 02:31:17,520
Adam Curry: So there's a direct
causal link. Although I thought

2674
02:31:19,290 --> 02:31:20,940
that wasn't allowed in science.

2675
02:31:21,270 --> 02:31:24,660
John C Dvorak: I liked it. It's
not, in fact, is not but But I

2676
02:31:24,660 --> 02:31:29,910
liked the causal causal a set it
cause a well, causal link. Now,

2677
02:31:29,940 --> 02:31:30,420
let's,

2678
02:31:31,710 --> 02:31:34,350
Adam Curry: let's pay attention
here because you can diagnose

2679
02:31:34,350 --> 02:31:37,620
chronic loneliness. And I want
to make sure that when you

2680
02:31:37,620 --> 02:31:39,660
John C Dvorak: do it with AI, I
hope we're not

2681
02:31:39,660 --> 02:31:40,530
Adam Curry: suffering from it.

2682
02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:42,390
Unknown: When you say
inflammation, do you mean sort

2683
02:31:42,390 --> 02:31:45,150
of the causal direction is
loneliness causes inflammation

2684
02:31:45,600 --> 02:31:48,930
causes loneliness? For the first
one, so loneliness, what

2685
02:31:48,930 --> 02:31:51,990
Adam Curry: is causal causal
means it's causing it or is it

2686
02:31:51,990 --> 02:31:52,890
just I guess so.

2687
02:31:52,890 --> 02:31:55,620
John C Dvorak: And it's also
chronic? What's chronic? But

2688
02:31:55,650 --> 02:31:59,610
it's chronic? Is, is a term used
for diseases and analysis or

2689
02:31:59,610 --> 02:32:03,540
yeah, now chronic loneliness is
like a good chronic hangnails or

2690
02:32:03,900 --> 02:32:08,640
chronic, you know, body odor, I
mean, I'm not getting the use

2691
02:32:08,670 --> 02:32:11,790
they, they're mixing up these
short phrases in terms to get

2692
02:32:11,790 --> 02:32:13,140
you freaked out for

2693
02:32:13,170 --> 02:32:16,110
Unknown: the first one. So
loneliness causes maybe some

2694
02:32:16,110 --> 02:32:18,510
degree of stress, but that's
actually manifesting in the body

2695
02:32:18,540 --> 02:32:22,440
more, actually, physically. And
that's that's the hypothesis to

2696
02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:23,250
explain these findings.

2697
02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:25,830
That's really interesting. And I
guess my next question would be

2698
02:32:25,860 --> 02:32:26,430
when

2699
02:32:27,300 --> 02:32:28,920
Adam Curry: that's interesting,
let me look at the script. I

2700
02:32:28,920 --> 02:32:31,110
guess my next question would be
rolled the prompter. Okay. Yes.

2701
02:32:31,110 --> 02:32:33,060
Unknown: Really interesting. And
I guess my next question would

2702
02:32:33,060 --> 02:32:36,990
be when do you sort of actually
decide to diagnose loneliness

2703
02:32:36,990 --> 02:32:38,310
and consider it chronic

2704
02:32:38,340 --> 02:32:40,800
is so tough because there's
actually not formal clinical

2705
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:44,070
criteria? So it's in some ways
similar to how we diagnose

2706
02:32:44,070 --> 02:32:46,560
depression? Are they
disconnected from somebody

2707
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:48,810
disconnected from their
community? Are they not really

2708
02:32:48,810 --> 02:32:51,750
engaging with friends or loved
ones? Do they never leave their

2709
02:32:51,750 --> 02:32:57,360
home? Hey, there's this sense
of, okay, this person is lonely

2710
02:32:57,360 --> 02:33:00,840
versus not just based on how we
diagnose depression, but

2711
02:33:01,170 --> 02:33:02,370
especially for those that are
older.

2712
02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:05,190
Adam Curry: John, I'm concerned
about you. If you never leave

2713
02:33:05,190 --> 02:33:08,160
the house, especially if you're
older. This is very concerning.

2714
02:33:08,250 --> 02:33:08,850
Yeah, I

2715
02:33:08,850 --> 02:33:10,950
John C Dvorak: think you should
be concerned could Kealoha at

2716
02:33:10,950 --> 02:33:15,120
any minute, keel over like
Biden, last clip is

2717
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:17,670
Unknown: loneliness linked to
any other chronic health

2718
02:33:17,670 --> 02:33:19,620
conditions. I mean, the surgeon
general saying that it's like

2719
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:21,060
smoking 15 cigarettes a day.

2720
02:33:27,330 --> 02:33:30,330
John C Dvorak: 15 cigarettes a
day to be jacked up, it seems to

2721
02:33:30,330 --> 02:33:31,830
me, I'm so lonely

2722
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:34,800
Unknown: to any other chronic
health conditions. I mean, the

2723
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:37,290
surgeon general saying that it's
like smoking 15 cigarettes a

2724
02:33:37,290 --> 02:33:37,500
day.

2725
02:33:37,530 --> 02:33:39,420
He's right. And that's exactly
what we're seeing. Here. We're

2726
02:33:39,420 --> 02:33:42,840
seeing this concerning trend.
We're seeing direct causal link

2727
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:47,400
between loneliness and heart
attacks, even though now you're

2728
02:33:47,400 --> 02:33:49,920
saying, Well, gosh, somebody is
more predisposed to pneumonia,

2729
02:33:50,010 --> 02:33:53,160
if they're lonely. And so there
is that link to that somehow

2730
02:33:53,160 --> 02:33:55,890
being socially isolated data, it
shouldn't surprise us. It's

2731
02:33:55,890 --> 02:33:58,740
actually having real fiscal
impacts for the body. Oh,

2732
02:33:58,740 --> 02:34:01,650
Adam Curry: my God. I mean, the
only thing I can see here is

2733
02:34:01,650 --> 02:34:03,930
like get people on
antidepressants because they're

2734
02:34:03,930 --> 02:34:06,000
lonely because that'll make your
social

2735
02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:08,160
John C Dvorak: that'll do it.

2736
02:34:08,190 --> 02:34:12,090
Adam Curry: I mean, it's this is
the you know, what the Surgeon

2737
02:34:12,090 --> 02:34:17,070
General should come out and say
watching M five M media is bad

2738
02:34:17,070 --> 02:34:22,020
for your health. Is we are we
are in fact, performing a public

2739
02:34:22,020 --> 02:34:27,330
service here by warning people
do not listen to this nonsense,

2740
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:30,180
or only listen to it under
strict supervision of your

2741
02:34:30,180 --> 02:34:31,530
favorite podcasters.

2742
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,250
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'd say
that's probably good advice.

2743
02:34:35,310 --> 02:34:36,330
Seriously.

2744
02:34:37,800 --> 02:34:39,210
Unknown: This is this is really
early

2745
02:34:39,210 --> 02:34:42,060
John C Dvorak: you have I do
have this thing on this. I have

2746
02:34:42,060 --> 02:34:46,440
two crisis clips, because we're
trying to play

2747
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:49,590
Adam Curry: these on the last
show. Which ones the vape vape

2748
02:34:49,590 --> 02:34:51,120
crisis and we played these.

2749
02:34:52,770 --> 02:34:54,780
John C Dvorak: I'm thinking of
the elder I know we haven't

2750
02:34:54,780 --> 02:34:57,030
Adam Curry: played the Oh no, we
have not played the elder ones.

2751
02:34:57,030 --> 02:34:57,360
No,

2752
02:34:57,390 --> 02:34:59,970
John C Dvorak: this is elder
abuse. And I have some thoughts.

2753
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:03,480
Just because yesterday I was
being abused, and I'm an elder.

2754
02:35:05,069 --> 02:35:07,769
Adam Curry: When it was it was
the pressure group lady who was

2755
02:35:07,769 --> 02:35:09,299
abusing you. No,

2756
02:35:09,300 --> 02:35:13,530
John C Dvorak: no, I was abusing
her. Oh, no, I got like six

2757
02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:18,720
videos happens on Wednesday. I
get like six of these calls. Hi,

2758
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:21,720
are you telling you've been
paying too much for your

2759
02:35:21,780 --> 02:35:26,970
utilities? We'll give you a $50
discount and a 35% reduction.

2760
02:35:27,210 --> 02:35:31,140
Did you go crazy because you go
like this favorite one is that

2761
02:35:31,170 --> 02:35:35,100
my favorite one is the you pick
up hello? And you hear nothing

2762
02:35:35,100 --> 02:35:40,080
and then you hear Hello? So
somebody's AI isn't AI is a bit

2763
02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:44,190
of phony baloney. Hello, hello.
I'm with such and such you know

2764
02:35:44,190 --> 02:35:47,400
we car repairs or something. And
we're there's a million

2765
02:35:47,580 --> 02:35:50,790
possibilities. Yeah, but it's
not even a real person there and

2766
02:35:50,790 --> 02:35:54,270
you just I either wait and he
hit the button debit hanging up

2767
02:35:54,270 --> 02:35:56,580
on me recently though, because
I've been hanging up on them. So

2768
02:35:56,670 --> 02:36:01,530
you're on a list. Call this guy
and then hang up on him is that

2769
02:36:01,530 --> 02:36:06,420
guy. So thrown out. But let's
play these clips.

2770
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:08,670
Unknown: Attorney General
Merrick Garland and the Justice

2771
02:36:08,670 --> 02:36:13,020
Department celebrated Elder
Justice today Garmin 17 Eight

2772
02:36:13,020 --> 02:36:13,380
Hold

2773
02:36:13,380 --> 02:36:16,950
Adam Curry: on a second show
title if I ever heard one. Elder

2774
02:36:16,950 --> 02:36:23,130
Justice. I mean, justice for JCD
if I mean this is great your

2775
02:36:23,130 --> 02:36:26,250
your regular George Floyd of the
elder partment celebrated

2776
02:36:26,250 --> 02:36:30,150
Unknown: Elder Justice today
garland joined at 17 agencies at

2777
02:36:30,150 --> 02:36:34,350
a meeting of the elder justice
coordinating council or E JCC.

2778
02:36:34,350 --> 02:36:38,640
To recognize a decade of federal
progress in combating elder

2779
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:40,710
abuse. Every

2780
02:36:40,710 --> 02:36:45,690
year, millions of older adults
experienced some form of elder

2781
02:36:45,690 --> 02:36:52,140
abuse, neglect, five financial
exploitation or fraud. We know

2782
02:36:52,140 --> 02:36:57,570
that the vast majority of elder
abuse cases go unreported. Yeah,

2783
02:36:57,720 --> 02:36:58,920
no, that's a real thing.

2784
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,070
John C Dvorak: So they're
bringing in so that thing is

2785
02:37:02,070 --> 02:37:08,790
focusing on financial fraud.
Rob? Yeah, being broad. Yes. Is

2786
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:11,160
why I'm talking about what these
phone calls I've been getting.

2787
02:37:11,190 --> 02:37:13,590
Adam Curry: Yes, they because
they just want to get your deets

2788
02:37:13,620 --> 02:37:16,350
and then they steal your money.
So

2789
02:37:16,350 --> 02:37:18,360
John C Dvorak: let's play the
second clip and I'll have my ad

2790
02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:20,580
then I will expose my complaint,

2791
02:37:20,610 --> 02:37:23,760
Unknown: garlin said the DOJ has
aggressively targeted

2792
02:37:23,760 --> 02:37:27,480
perpetrators of elder fraud and
abuse while providing victims

2793
02:37:27,480 --> 02:37:30,780
with the support they need,
resulting in hundreds of

2794
02:37:30,780 --> 02:37:35,220
millions of dollars returned to
elderly victims, the E JCC was

2795
02:37:35,220 --> 02:37:38,820
established by the 2010 Elder
Justice Act to coordinate

2796
02:37:38,820 --> 02:37:42,390
federal activities related to
elder abuse, neglect and

2797
02:37:42,390 --> 02:37:45,690
exploitation. Leaders from the
Department of Health and Human

2798
02:37:45,690 --> 02:37:49,470
Services as well as for pioneers
of the elder justice movement,

2799
02:37:49,590 --> 02:37:52,350
also gave remarks the AJCC
meeting.

2800
02:37:53,100 --> 02:37:56,280
Okay. AJCC has Okay,

2801
02:37:56,280 --> 02:37:58,380
John C Dvorak: so we have the
Justice Department. When are

2802
02:37:58,380 --> 02:38:02,490
they going to stop these calls?
Do you remember Elizabeth Warren

2803
02:38:02,490 --> 02:38:06,540
it was at least a decade ago
talking about Oh, rachel calls

2804
02:38:06,540 --> 02:38:09,030
and she's always wants you to do
this. And that the other thing

2805
02:38:09,030 --> 02:38:11,940
she did, they're trying to steal
your money. I'm gonna put a stop

2806
02:38:11,940 --> 02:38:15,870
to this when she was running for
president. Nothing has changed.

2807
02:38:16,020 --> 02:38:19,980
I get so many calls, which I
hang up on and I get a funny

2808
02:38:19,980 --> 02:38:22,650
thing on the on the line. I
said, Mimi, so she gets this too

2809
02:38:22,650 --> 02:38:26,400
and people might notice it. But
on the digital line that I have

2810
02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:30,270
for my landline. They first say
here's some sort of a pitch

2811
02:38:30,270 --> 02:38:33,120
which is a recording and they
say oh, please hang on the line

2812
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:37,140
we keep hanging on. And then you
hear this sound it goes loop.

2813
02:38:37,920 --> 02:38:40,980
And it's a little sound before
before they come on before the

2814
02:38:41,010 --> 02:38:46,230
real person comes on the line in
India. Or who knows where is

2815
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:48,990
China? I have no idea where
these people are you I think

2816
02:38:48,990 --> 02:38:52,380
they have all have Indian
accent. So I think most of his

2817
02:38:52,380 --> 02:38:56,370
actions in India is a bloop you
hear just before he says I hear

2818
02:38:56,370 --> 02:38:58,770
that she's hanging up, which I
think is why they're hanging up

2819
02:38:58,770 --> 02:39:04,470
on me now. But why can't he this
is all through the public

2820
02:39:04,470 --> 02:39:09,000
networks. Why do they not do a
better job of tracking these

2821
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:11,520
people down? I don't care. Where
are they? Are they talking bitch

2822
02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:15,090
and moan and have elder justice?
Why don't they put a stop to

2823
02:39:15,090 --> 02:39:19,260
this? The Justice Department
garlin talking they haven't done

2824
02:39:19,260 --> 02:39:20,700
Jack about this.

2825
02:39:21,780 --> 02:39:26,550
Unknown: John C borax day. Oh
wow.

2826
02:39:26,580 --> 02:39:28,920
Adam Curry: They haven't done
Jack they have not done Jack

2827
02:39:28,980 --> 02:39:33,360
they've done nothing not even
Jack. No. I mean jack No. is a

2828
02:39:33,360 --> 02:39:38,130
problem. Lots of elders are
being screwed out of lots

2829
02:39:38,130 --> 02:39:41,490
John C Dvorak: of really old but
young kids are getting screwed

2830
02:39:41,490 --> 02:39:44,790
you don't get this not just a
bunch of old ladies that are you

2831
02:39:44,790 --> 02:39:46,560
know, that's all it for this
bull crap.

2832
02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:50,100
Adam Curry: True. That's true.
Now instead instead let's get

2833
02:39:50,100 --> 02:39:55,320
rid of Alex Jones. He's the
problem. That's what we got to

2834
02:39:55,320 --> 02:39:59,700
do. I'm gonna show us move by
Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all

2835
02:39:59,700 --> 02:40:00,120
the things You?

2836
02:40:01,199 --> 02:40:02,249
Unknown: Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

2837
02:40:09,690 --> 02:40:13,200
Adam Curry: We want to thank the
rest of our producers until 50,

2838
02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:17,580
down to $50, who supported us
today for episode 1672. We don't

2839
02:40:17,580 --> 02:40:21,210
read anything under $50 For
reasons of anonymity, but we do

2840
02:40:21,210 --> 02:40:24,780
want to acknowledge those who
are on sustaining donations

2841
02:40:24,780 --> 02:40:28,440
which you make yourself, you can
set it up yourself, just do

2842
02:40:28,440 --> 02:40:31,710
something on the nevernever on
the layaway program, anything

2843
02:40:31,710 --> 02:40:34,380
you want and keep track of it.
Because when you reach the

2844
02:40:34,410 --> 02:40:37,800
knighthood, let us know. You get
the fancy Ringling mahogany

2845
02:40:37,800 --> 02:40:38,940
knights today.

2846
02:40:39,960 --> 02:40:42,270
John C Dvorak: We didn't have
any last show either. By the way

2847
02:40:42,270 --> 02:40:44,820
food we're experiencing a night
shortage.

2848
02:40:44,880 --> 02:40:48,480
Adam Curry: I have a question.
So one of Trumps he announced

2849
02:40:48,480 --> 02:40:53,010
this in now, I'm gonna go back
on something I've been saying

2850
02:40:53,010 --> 02:40:56,010
for years and years and yours
about the value for value model,

2851
02:40:56,430 --> 02:40:59,460
which is you know, we're not
working for tips here. This is

2852
02:40:59,460 --> 02:41:03,360
value, we give you value. And we
expect some that we actually

2853
02:41:03,360 --> 02:41:07,920
started by Oh, just hit the tip
jar. Well, we the show would

2854
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:11,340
have been done within six months
if we did that. No, we didn't.

2855
02:41:11,370 --> 02:41:15,360
We avoided it pre avoided it.
But now, with Trump saying he

2856
02:41:15,360 --> 02:41:18,180
will do away with taxes on tips.
Yeah.

2857
02:41:18,390 --> 02:41:23,760
John C Dvorak: Hmm. I don't
think so. Let's go back. I'll go

2858
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:28,470
back in history since you
brought this up. Okay. You're

2859
02:41:28,470 --> 02:41:33,360
always trying to avoid taxes.
The original thinking was, I'm

2860
02:41:33,360 --> 02:41:36,810
going to I can't quite quote you
but I can come pretty close. Or

2861
02:41:36,810 --> 02:41:41,130
will I say 6015 years ago? Oh,
you said well, since this is

2862
02:41:41,130 --> 02:41:45,810
like we're getting donations.
Donations aren't taxable. Are

2863
02:41:45,810 --> 02:41:46,170
they

2864
02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:49,080
Adam Curry: did I say that
really? Yes. You did. Well, I

2865
02:41:49,080 --> 02:41:51,390
was I was inexperienced and
young.

2866
02:41:52,590 --> 02:41:53,970
John C Dvorak: I said so

2867
02:41:54,810 --> 02:41:58,200
Unknown: doing that what did I
know 100%

2868
02:41:58,200 --> 02:42:02,430
John C Dvorak: tax tax is a tax
we get taxed. We had tax for our

2869
02:42:02,430 --> 02:42:05,310
money we're not nonprofit
nothing nothing like that. This

2870
02:42:05,310 --> 02:42:10,110
is seen as regular income. So
this tip idea is just an

2871
02:42:10,110 --> 02:42:13,320
extension of your old idea. I'm
so

2872
02:42:13,320 --> 02:42:15,810
Adam Curry: sorry that I brought
it up. I was just trying to help

2873
02:42:15,810 --> 02:42:18,570
us. You know, you're getting
robbed man. You're getting

2874
02:42:18,570 --> 02:42:20,070
robbed elder abuse. You need

2875
02:42:20,070 --> 02:42:23,190
John C Dvorak: to we are getting
robbed. But x is a price you

2876
02:42:23,190 --> 02:42:25,620
have to pay by taxi a podcast.

2877
02:42:25,650 --> 02:42:27,960
Adam Curry: That's right. That's
right. It's a grind is very

2878
02:42:27,960 --> 02:42:29,250
hard. John. It's it's

2879
02:42:29,250 --> 02:42:31,350
John C Dvorak: one of the
hardest businesses to be in it.

2880
02:42:31,350 --> 02:42:34,320
That's That's not a joke. We
just make it look easy. Thank

2881
02:42:34,320 --> 02:42:35,550
Adam Curry: you. Who can we
thank?

2882
02:42:36,990 --> 02:42:39,510
John C Dvorak: You start with
forever of the wallet. Okay.

2883
02:42:39,570 --> 02:42:45,240
He's in Lynwood, Michigan and he
came in with 123 dot 45123451 of

2884
02:42:45,240 --> 02:42:48,720
our favorite donations yes, if
everybody gave us that we'd be

2885
02:42:48,720 --> 02:42:55,500
on easy screw the government
they can buy a new jet sir PJ of

2886
02:42:55,500 --> 02:43:00,180
Durden comes up next. And he's
in Holland in the city of cat

2887
02:43:00,210 --> 02:43:05,580
wick cutback. And he says he
actually wrote a note that I had

2888
02:43:05,580 --> 02:43:09,660
to read some of he said this is
actually an attempt to get

2889
02:43:09,660 --> 02:43:14,700
through Adams obvious inbox
apocalypse. So we can finally

2890
02:43:14,700 --> 02:43:19,050
plan the desert Dagon podcast
interview Yeah, he promised yes

2891
02:43:19,050 --> 02:43:19,890
sir PJ

2892
02:43:19,890 --> 02:43:23,670
Adam Curry: you have you and
it's happening. We are we

2893
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:27,060
already discussed the date I
think I think it was Sir PJ.

2894
02:43:27,180 --> 02:43:31,410
Yes. It's happening sir. PJ.
Yeah, the podcast days a Dafa

2895
02:43:31,560 --> 02:43:32,550
these days.

2896
02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:35,640
John C Dvorak: But if he wants
to send us one, two 3.4 Or five

2897
02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:40,080
like he just did again to remind
us that you need to do his

2898
02:43:40,080 --> 02:43:42,570
podcast good, but we're not
going to complain. Oh, not at

2899
02:43:42,570 --> 02:43:48,030
all. A William hammer in
Hagerstown Maryland. $100 prints

2900
02:43:48,030 --> 02:43:53,850
by ag and Lancaster New
Hampshire at 866 He needs some

2901
02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:57,780
somehow selling karma as he
escapes New York to New

2902
02:43:57,780 --> 02:44:00,810
Hampshire you might want to good
with that the end good one Yeah.

2903
02:44:00,810 --> 02:44:02,370
Good. Good idea. Actually

2904
02:44:02,370 --> 02:44:05,790
Adam Curry: wants He wants
Patriot karma. I'll add that in

2905
02:44:05,790 --> 02:44:07,740
there. Patriot karma. Well,
yeah, we

2906
02:44:07,740 --> 02:44:09,750
John C Dvorak: got the Fourth of
July coming up. So we should be

2907
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:12,660
aware. As always, we're going to
work on the Fourth of July

2908
02:44:12,660 --> 02:44:15,780
literally and the Fourth of July
weekend. You should note that

2909
02:44:15,810 --> 02:44:19,860
Yeah. You know why in Bern we
do. Bertie with what we do.

2910
02:44:19,890 --> 02:44:24,810
Brian burnish in me ban North
Carolina as far as

2911
02:44:25,560 --> 02:44:28,170
Adam Curry: smokin hot wife
Jackie. And they want baby

2912
02:44:28,170 --> 02:44:30,270
karma. We got that too.

2913
02:44:32,730 --> 02:44:36,240
John C Dvorak: Yes, we do. Yeah,
baby at the end of the night

2914
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:43,350
light snacks. Oh, yes.
nightlight no light snacks. What

2915
02:44:43,350 --> 02:44:47,220
is this product at 438 I have no
idea. You may want to look at

2916
02:44:47,220 --> 02:44:52,140
that snack. Christian, girlish
Grealish in Lakeland, Florida.

2917
02:44:52,170 --> 02:44:55,260
8008. That's a boobs donation
along with Kevin McLaughlin in

2918
02:44:55,260 --> 02:44:58,560
Concord, North Carolina. He's
actually the Archduke of Luna,

2919
02:44:59,070 --> 02:45:01,830
lover of blue. He doesn't miss
out. It's been going on for

2920
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:08,460
years 808 from him, Jason Maurer
in Vancouver, Washington he

2921
02:45:08,460 --> 02:45:11,730
likes to be to pronounce his
name that way. 808 another boob

2922
02:45:11,730 --> 02:45:15,420
donation Brian Kaufman in
Scottsdale Arizona 7575 Peter

2923
02:45:15,420 --> 02:45:21,510
Campbell in Manchester for not
for not Vermont for not 6633

2924
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:24,930
Check data do you use the
Alzheimer's check on that? You

2925
02:45:24,930 --> 02:45:31,110
go the AI Oh, it'll tell me.
pred Brett Peterson, Patterson

2926
02:45:31,140 --> 02:45:37,020
Patterson bid p d e r s o n er
Peterson and Wycoff Minnesota

2927
02:45:37,020 --> 02:45:41,100
hope he's not flooded. is a
double switcheroo for fig head

2928
02:45:41,640 --> 02:45:50,580
for monger and Museo de
douching. De deuced. Marks

2929
02:45:50,580 --> 02:45:58,560
tarnish in El Elgin new Nebraska
Sorry 60 Todd Hendrickson in

2930
02:45:58,590 --> 02:46:04,590
Woodstock, Illinois. 55.
Adrienne, sales I'm guessing

2931
02:46:04,590 --> 02:46:06,360
sales in Adelaide

2932
02:46:06,390 --> 02:46:11,160
Adam Curry: silence Australia's
asylees night Silas Silius.

2933
02:46:11,550 --> 02:46:14,370
John C Dvorak: Surprise,
surprise night of astonishment

2934
02:46:14,370 --> 02:46:20,160
in Yukon, Oklahoma at 444 Devin
O'Connell and Boylston

2935
02:46:20,220 --> 02:46:26,280
Massachusetts. 5341. And he says
it's a baby seal donation.

2936
02:46:26,310 --> 02:46:29,850
Adam Curry: We promised the club
a baby. Yeah, we didn't. We

2937
02:46:29,850 --> 02:46:30,510
didn't have to.

2938
02:46:31,260 --> 02:46:34,500
John C Dvorak: We didn't have
to. Thanks to on anonymous. Yep.

2939
02:46:34,770 --> 02:46:39,030
Kevin Lehmann in Rochester
Washington. 5271 Baron anonymous

2940
02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:43,440
cop. Actually, Jay got that.
Wow. I was gonna say Good work,

2941
02:46:43,440 --> 02:46:48,300
Jay. Yeah. She says to me, she's
doing the Yeah, she does this

2942
02:46:48,300 --> 02:46:52,500
guy and she named him you know,
the guy said the guy that the

2943
02:46:52,500 --> 02:46:57,900
guy said, Yeah, Baron anonymous
cop in Redwood City for two 150

2944
02:46:57,930 --> 02:47:01,800
I sent him a note he never
answered back. Stephen GRAYL

2945
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:05,700
back in Mount Pritchard, New
South Wales 51

2946
02:47:05,700 --> 02:47:08,010
Adam Curry: out of Australia
ever since we said Australia yes

2947
02:47:08,010 --> 02:47:10,920
testing grounds thing you've
noticed this? Yes. Ever since we

2948
02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:14,610
said Australia is since we play
Australian clips more Australian

2949
02:47:14,610 --> 02:47:17,850
clip. You know what? We play
Africa clips. 20. Africans

2950
02:47:17,850 --> 02:47:24,240
donate? No. We have one guy yet
one guy. But we play Australia

2951
02:47:24,240 --> 02:47:26,490
clips. Boom, everyone's
donating. I love it.

2952
02:47:26,850 --> 02:47:29,010
John C Dvorak: I also think it
has to do with my calling their

2953
02:47:29,010 --> 02:47:30,300
Prime Minister Elmer

2954
02:47:30,300 --> 02:47:32,940
Unknown: Fudd. But I think that
helps. Yeah.

2955
02:47:34,320 --> 02:47:37,470
John C Dvorak: Nicholas Clark in
Port Angeles, Washington. Hey

2956
02:47:37,710 --> 02:47:45,990
5001 And he's discussing the
snap chill. Can coffees

2957
02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:52,260
including our favorites has been
recalled. You

2958
02:47:52,260 --> 02:47:55,620
Adam Curry: know, I had a can
just just out of deference.

2959
02:47:56,970 --> 02:47:59,070
Unknown: I didn't die. No, I

2960
02:47:59,070 --> 02:48:01,980
John C Dvorak: did just recall
from paperwork. Cow

2961
02:48:01,980 --> 02:48:04,260
Adam Curry: so there's not
actually you're actually going

2962
02:48:04,260 --> 02:48:07,350
to die from it. Because I was
upon your recommendation you

2963
02:48:07,350 --> 02:48:11,880
said because we saw this. And
you said no, this is this is

2964
02:48:11,880 --> 02:48:18,450
sketchy. It is and I went okay.
And down to one of those

2965
02:48:18,450 --> 02:48:22,020
kidnapped shells. Yeah, yeah. So
it's paperwork and someone

2966
02:48:22,020 --> 02:48:24,030
didn't do the paperwork properly
is that yeah, that's

2967
02:48:24,030 --> 02:48:27,480
John C Dvorak: what it sounds
like. But you know, we we crown

2968
02:48:27,480 --> 02:48:34,110
beans I make my own damn coffee.
You're like can coffee guy well,

2969
02:48:34,110 --> 02:48:34,200
I

2970
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,480
Adam Curry: like that Snapdeal
stuff is good. And now with

2971
02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:37,200
botulism.

2972
02:48:41,370 --> 02:48:45,210
John C Dvorak: He says he's
Nicholas Clark says he's good

2973
02:48:45,210 --> 02:48:48,780
friends and a CO and a co worker
of John's UPS driver and Port

2974
02:48:48,780 --> 02:48:54,930
Angeles. To John next time you
see Brock telling you glad he's

2975
02:48:55,260 --> 02:48:57,810
telling the world about the no
agenda podcast because he's

2976
02:48:57,810 --> 02:49:00,600
saving lives. Oh, nice. How

2977
02:49:00,600 --> 02:49:02,610
Adam Curry: about you get the
rock out work? How about that

2978
02:49:02,610 --> 02:49:06,300
belta thing one of our producers
made that lifter what I'm sorry.

2979
02:49:06,300 --> 02:49:10,770
The belt shelf. Should give one
to him. He's a UPS Yeah, there

2980
02:49:10,770 --> 02:49:11,190
you go.

2981
02:49:11,220 --> 02:49:12,450
Unknown: Give him a belt shelf.

2982
02:49:13,500 --> 02:49:16,710
John C Dvorak: Brian Hummel, in
Wimberley, Texas 50. All without

2983
02:49:16,710 --> 02:49:19,860
the 50s already. So let's just
rattle these off name and

2984
02:49:19,860 --> 02:49:22,860
location starting with Brett
Darb. Sorry, Brian. And then

2985
02:49:22,860 --> 02:49:28,530
Brett Denton in Boise. Samuel
Kennedy in North Riverside

2986
02:49:28,530 --> 02:49:34,590
Illinois. Robert flurry in
Birmingham. Amy Grohl in Burien.

2987
02:49:34,830 --> 02:49:37,290
Washington and you've all been
there if you've been to his

2988
02:49:37,500 --> 02:49:46,290
airport. Fall Line farm in
Columbus, Georgia. Person of

2989
02:49:46,290 --> 02:49:53,430
merit comics in Columbus Ohio.
Nice these plugs are killing me

2990
02:49:53,430 --> 02:49:58,740
great Brian Eamon Heiser in
Lancaster, California Jack's

2991
02:49:59,160 --> 02:50:03,030
show fail All fields show field
in yankeetown, Florida Michael

2992
02:50:03,060 --> 02:50:06,120
Elmore in Gastonia North
Carolina John Taylor in Florida

2993
02:50:06,180 --> 02:50:12,180
Florissant Colorado. Aaron wise
Gerber in Bend Oregon, Richard

2994
02:50:12,180 --> 02:50:17,280
Gardner I think's in New York.
Yes. And Isaiah, Chet your alley

2995
02:50:17,280 --> 02:50:23,370
and Thane Wyoming and last on
the list is our Baron in in

2996
02:50:23,370 --> 02:50:25,290
Beaverton, Oregon, Alan Bean

2997
02:50:26,520 --> 02:50:28,110
Adam Curry: or Alan being very
nice,

2998
02:50:28,260 --> 02:50:32,280
John C Dvorak: yay sends a check
or Eastman sending a check since

2999
02:50:32,280 --> 02:50:36,960
the very early days. With a
note, I will reiterate the note

3000
02:50:36,990 --> 02:50:41,100
said, I'm gonna send you a $50
check every month as long as the

3001
02:50:41,100 --> 02:50:42,990
podcast continues to be good.

3002
02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:46,170
Adam Curry: I guess we're
hanging in we're hanging in a

3003
02:50:46,170 --> 02:50:46,680
check

3004
02:50:47,700 --> 02:50:51,570
John C Dvorak: $50 a month for
every month since that 16

3005
02:50:51,570 --> 02:50:54,120
Adam Curry: years, maybe 16
years probably.

3006
02:50:54,540 --> 02:50:56,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something
like that. Yeah,

3007
02:50:56,460 --> 02:50:58,320
Adam Curry: be careful. He
should be key.

3008
02:50:58,320 --> 02:50:59,910
John C Dvorak: He's probably
better that he's probably higher

3009
02:50:59,910 --> 02:51:01,920
much higher than a baron. He's a
man Yeah,

3010
02:51:01,950 --> 02:51:03,660
Adam Curry: he's well, he should
let us know and he should be on

3011
02:51:03,660 --> 02:51:06,630
the lookout for elder abuse.
This ramp is rampant, sir.

3012
02:51:06,630 --> 02:51:09,570
Allenby thank you to these
producers and everyone who came

3013
02:51:09,570 --> 02:51:12,510
in under $50 For reasons of
anonymity again, thank you for

3014
02:51:12,510 --> 02:51:15,000
those who are on the sustaining
donations and thanks to our

3015
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:17,670
executive and Associate
Executive producers. We

3016
02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:20,250
appreciate you very much
remember we are working this

3017
02:51:20,370 --> 02:51:23,970
July 4 And the July 4 weekend
here's the karma is requested.

3018
02:51:25,950 --> 02:51:26,790
You've got

3019
02:51:33,720 --> 02:51:43,440
you've got karma that'll make
some babies. No. donations.com

3020
02:51:43,440 --> 02:51:45,510
become a no agenda producer
today.

3021
02:51:51,930 --> 02:51:55,170
Demand we are short on
birthdays. That's weird. No one

3022
02:51:55,170 --> 02:51:58,470
making babies around nine months
before this. Sort of Michael

3023
02:51:58,470 --> 02:52:03,720
wishes his sister Darla Happy
belated birthday and turning 48

3024
02:52:04,170 --> 02:52:08,130
on the 29th the one and only sir
dirty Jersey whore happy

3025
02:52:08,130 --> 02:52:10,410
birthday for everybody here at
the best podcast in the

3026
02:52:10,410 --> 02:52:16,440
universe. And once again, no
nights no title changes no Dame

3027
02:52:16,440 --> 02:52:18,420
so we go straight to the meetup.

3028
02:52:26,490 --> 02:52:30,120
We don't have any meetups
scheduled today. And by the way,

3029
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:33,000
no agenda meetup you have to
witness at least one of these in

3030
02:52:33,000 --> 02:52:36,000
your lifetime. I guarantee you.
You'll keep going back. You will

3031
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:40,200
love doing it. There is one
tomorrow the Montrose

3032
02:52:40,200 --> 02:52:43,620
ballbreaker meet up four o'clock
at slick Willie's family pool

3033
02:52:43,620 --> 02:52:48,120
hall that's in Houston, Texas.
We have the inaugural sizzling

3034
02:52:48,120 --> 02:52:52,890
summer climate summit Banger One
o'clock North Jersey bar side of

3035
02:52:52,890 --> 02:52:57,390
red hut in Clifton, New Jersey.
Also on Saturday, the Rhode

3036
02:52:57,390 --> 02:53:01,590
Island pool party a 233 at oh
this will be at the home of Lady

3037
02:53:01,590 --> 02:53:05,220
butters and Sir knives that's
going to be a fun one. So RSVP

3038
02:53:05,220 --> 02:53:09,390
to them directly that's in Rhode
Island, the Oregon local 33 On

3039
02:53:09,390 --> 02:53:13,350
Saturday, they meet at 330
Pacific Willamette Park, West

3040
02:53:13,350 --> 02:53:17,190
Linn, Oregon notice I pronounced
it right Willamette The Friends

3041
02:53:17,220 --> 02:53:21,810
of the fund for frantically
flummoxed and fantabulous folks

3042
02:53:21,840 --> 02:53:27,060
a birthday celebration, Lee
Harvey's in Dallas, Texas. So

3043
02:53:27,060 --> 02:53:29,610
Adam say happy birthday to Sir
dirty jersey or to be

3044
02:53:29,610 --> 02:53:32,760
celebrating that day 330 Central
Time. The flight of the no

3045
02:53:32,760 --> 02:53:36,210
agenda is number 53. That can
only be Leo Bravo this time at

3046
02:53:36,210 --> 02:53:38,850
the Boomtown brewery in Los
Angeles Arts District,

3047
02:53:39,060 --> 02:53:42,930
California. Watch out for the
homeless and the pot Father's

3048
02:53:42,960 --> 02:53:48,270
Day meet up. This is all about
on Saturday 530 at the Dublin

3049
02:53:48,270 --> 02:53:52,170
pub in Dayton, Ohio. Finally on
Sunday, our next show day long

3050
02:53:52,170 --> 02:53:55,080
views lively laugh loaded
midsummer meet up the hangover

3051
02:53:55,080 --> 02:53:59,160
special 430 at Rotolo is
pizzeria in Longview, Texas, and

3052
02:53:59,160 --> 02:54:02,970
that's also the dirty Jersey
whore. Me he just can't get

3053
02:54:02,970 --> 02:54:07,470
enough of these meetups Kenny,
coming up in July, on the fifth

3054
02:54:07,470 --> 02:54:10,620
Fremantle, Western Australia.
Send us a meet up report,

3055
02:54:10,770 --> 02:54:14,430
Amsterdam, North Holland on the
sixth Raleigh, North Carolina

3056
02:54:14,430 --> 02:54:17,310
and they live in McKinney, Texas
on the 13th Kernersville North

3057
02:54:17,310 --> 02:54:21,210
Carolina Garden City, Idaho Fort
Wayne, Indiana rabbit hash,

3058
02:54:21,210 --> 02:54:24,720
Kentucky on the 14th Keene New
Hampshire on the 20th of the

3059
02:54:24,750 --> 02:54:27,810
Lansing Michigan Santa Rosa,
California, San Diego,

3060
02:54:27,810 --> 02:54:32,460
California. Palm Beach Gardens
Florida on the 21st. Wiesbaden,

3061
02:54:32,460 --> 02:54:36,210
Germany. Hello dog sounds here's
the half. That'll be on the 27th

3062
02:54:36,240 --> 02:54:40,200
iron turn Minnesota, Trinidad
and Tobago on the 28th. We

3063
02:54:40,200 --> 02:54:43,440
really need meetups for reports
from these these I really want

3064
02:54:43,440 --> 02:54:46,440
to hear you guys talking. And
another Amsterdam, the

3065
02:54:46,440 --> 02:54:49,020
Netherlands on the 28th We're
going into August Keyport New

3066
02:54:49,020 --> 02:54:52,320
Jersey on the 11th in the get
John out of the house meet up

3067
02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:55,350
because you know he could become
depressed they could have a

3068
02:54:55,350 --> 02:54:59,790
heart attack, August 17 Albany
California out carditis that's

3069
02:54:59,790 --> 02:55:02,700
your no agenda meetups the
schedule can be found at no

3070
02:55:02,700 --> 02:55:06,090
agenda meetups.com You will meet
people from all over the world

3071
02:55:06,090 --> 02:55:10,740
all walks of life. There's never
a fight it's always a party. You

3072
02:55:10,740 --> 02:55:13,890
will walk away with phone
numbers and friends for life I

3073
02:55:13,890 --> 02:55:16,680
guarantee it no agenda
meetups.com If you can't find

3074
02:55:16,680 --> 02:55:25,590
one start one years ago go hang
out with Dyson days you're

3075
02:55:27,630 --> 02:55:39,090
triggered everybody feels the
same. It's like a body it's

3076
02:55:39,120 --> 02:55:43,050
always like a party. We're
almost done with cheers we're a

3077
02:55:43,050 --> 02:55:49,590
season 10 Episode 21 I keep keep
remembering that because of the

3078
02:55:49,620 --> 02:55:54,330
the meetup jingle No, that's
true. That show was that had

3079
02:55:54,330 --> 02:55:56,700
last that staying power and it
was a pretty good show.

3080
02:55:58,080 --> 02:56:00,810
John C Dvorak: The first year it
was almost canceled. I

3081
02:56:00,810 --> 02:56:04,560
Adam Curry: can see why the
first season was not great. The

3082
02:56:04,560 --> 02:56:08,070
jokes were met. I think when
they really gave norm a lot

3083
02:56:08,070 --> 02:56:12,540
more. A lot more dialogue became
better for some reason.

3084
02:56:14,430 --> 02:56:15,930
John C Dvorak: But I did not
know they had to fight to keep

3085
02:56:15,930 --> 02:56:18,570
it on the air and they did and
it'd be him a huge long term

3086
02:56:18,570 --> 02:56:21,630
success making the network tons
of money which is typical.

3087
02:56:21,660 --> 02:56:24,810
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, typical.
I have a whole bunch of ISO so

3088
02:56:24,810 --> 02:56:27,750
I'm just playing you tell me if
you like anything, okay. And

3089
02:56:27,750 --> 02:56:29,700
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
this you're gonna win because I

3090
02:56:29,700 --> 02:56:33,270
don't have one ISO. guy he has a
rockin brain.

3091
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:36,900
Adam Curry: No, no. Okay, but we
got the facts. We got the facts.

3092
02:56:36,900 --> 02:56:41,340
We got the facts. Like that.
Okay, when all else fails ham

3093
02:56:41,340 --> 02:56:45,030
radio. No, yeah, no. 100%

3094
02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:50,370
Unknown: It's cute. The longer I
talk it's gonna get dumber.

3095
02:56:50,580 --> 02:56:53,400
Adam Curry: Okay. Do you like
any of these anything that yeah,

3096
02:56:53,400 --> 02:56:53,880
I liked

3097
02:56:53,880 --> 02:57:00,180
John C Dvorak: I liked 100% one
and that was the first or second

3098
02:57:00,180 --> 02:57:01,320
one I liked the second

3099
02:57:01,320 --> 02:57:02,760
Adam Curry: one was

3100
02:57:07,410 --> 02:57:09,390
Unknown: the facts that's where
we got the facts. We got the

3101
02:57:09,390 --> 02:57:10,470
facts. We got the facts.

3102
02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:13,740
John C Dvorak: Yeah, like that
was 100% like those two?

3103
02:57:13,770 --> 02:57:17,310
Adam Curry: I think the 100% has
to win because it's 100% Man

3104
02:57:17,310 --> 02:57:20,310
100% You know it's 100% 100% we
win.

3105
02:57:22,200 --> 02:57:24,150
Unknown: Well, this is weird.
What's happening here?

3106
02:57:25,170 --> 02:57:27,810
John C Dvorak: Now your machine
she's blowing up? Yeah, it seems

3107
02:57:27,810 --> 02:57:28,140
to be

3108
02:57:28,140 --> 02:57:30,090
Unknown: homeless. You know,
this

3109
02:57:30,090 --> 02:57:30,960
Adam Curry: is not good. Hold

3110
02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:36,840
Unknown: on What happened here
this is very strange. I've

3111
02:57:36,840 --> 02:57:37,920
Adam Curry: never had this
happen.

3112
02:57:38,880 --> 02:57:39,450
John C Dvorak: It's always

3113
02:57:41,520 --> 02:57:47,100
Unknown: good news. It's good.
Advise John C's to give the day.

3114
02:57:47,490 --> 02:57:50,910
Adam Curry: Everybody John C.
Dvorak Tip of the Day. I also

3115
02:57:50,910 --> 02:57:55,740
have I wanted to do not do a tip
of the day but do a Dutch ism of

3116
02:57:55,740 --> 02:57:59,280
the day. So you can do your tip
first if you want. I actually

3117
02:57:59,280 --> 02:58:03,510
John C Dvorak: have two tips.
Ones ones. I'm going to do this.

3118
02:58:03,510 --> 02:58:06,000
This is going to be a regular
feature. I'm going to do a

3119
02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:08,610
product tip every show.

3120
02:58:09,450 --> 02:58:13,230
Adam Curry: Okay, as long as
it's not about that drive fixer

3121
02:58:13,230 --> 02:58:16,650
which blew up my drive because I
do blame you for that obviously.

3122
02:58:17,430 --> 02:58:21,930
John C Dvorak: Of course you
would. Well, first of all, it's

3123
02:58:21,930 --> 02:58:28,200
just a bonus tip Mimi sent in.
She says she opened an Amazon

3124
02:58:28,200 --> 02:58:33,510
box and then she looked into the
problem. Online. She opened an

3125
02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:38,280
Amazon box and I baby cockroach
was inside which she quickly

3126
02:58:38,280 --> 02:58:42,390
killed. But she says she
recommends opening Amazon boxes

3127
02:58:42,420 --> 02:58:46,500
outside because of this. I guess
a couple of the warehouses are

3128
02:58:46,500 --> 02:58:49,110
cockroach infested. Oh,

3129
02:58:49,140 --> 02:58:50,940
Unknown: nasty. Yeah,

3130
02:58:51,030 --> 02:58:52,020
John C Dvorak: that's a good
tip. That's

3131
02:58:52,020 --> 02:58:53,610
Adam Curry: a very good it's a
very handy tip.

3132
02:58:54,270 --> 02:58:56,820
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the other
chip is a product tip which is

3133
02:58:56,850 --> 02:59:00,180
because Jay has been using this
product to do the scanning of

3134
02:59:00,180 --> 02:59:02,910
the checks and the scanning of
the notes and the rest of it.

3135
02:59:03,270 --> 02:59:09,570
It's a killer app. It works on
phones iOS, and it also works on

3136
02:59:09,570 --> 02:59:12,870
the Android phones. It's called
camed people just look it up

3137
02:59:13,260 --> 02:59:18,420
CamScanner now when I was I've
used the cam scanner, Cam

3138
02:59:18,420 --> 02:59:22,710
scanner is a terrific product.
And I remember when I was a kid

3139
02:59:23,280 --> 02:59:27,540
and I bought when I bought a
copy Stan and you screw a camera

3140
02:59:27,540 --> 02:59:30,090
on to it and you had to put the
lights up then you take a

3141
02:59:30,090 --> 02:59:33,600
picture of some document or
something you want to scan and

3142
02:59:33,600 --> 02:59:38,490
then now scanners regular bed
scanners came out but this it

3143
02:59:38,490 --> 02:59:41,850
does the adjusting it does the
focus intake takes care of all

3144
02:59:41,850 --> 02:59:45,450
this. It is a fabulous product
and she says she's been using it

3145
02:59:45,450 --> 02:59:48,810
since 2017 and works like a
champ. And

3146
02:59:48,810 --> 02:59:51,780
Adam Curry: of course all of her
contact details have been shared

3147
02:59:51,780 --> 02:59:56,730
all over China. With the with
this free app, free app.

3148
02:59:56,970 --> 02:59:59,700
John C Dvorak: Well you can pay
for it too but it's yes she is

3149
02:59:59,700 --> 03:00:00,780
the free version of course

3150
03:00:00,780 --> 03:00:05,490
Adam Curry: I've used CamScanner
it's good. I wanted to it's a

3151
03:00:05,490 --> 03:00:09,510
tip because you can use these in
regular parlance. I first want

3152
03:00:09,510 --> 03:00:14,820
to circle back to the co host
door to Carrick. The bullet is

3153
03:00:14,820 --> 03:00:17,520
has been shot through the church
you remember that one that Dutch

3154
03:00:17,520 --> 03:00:17,940
ism?

3155
03:00:18,360 --> 03:00:21,060
John C Dvorak: Yes, we are
trying to deconstruct Yes, yes,

3156
03:00:21,060 --> 03:00:23,910
one of us could come up with
anything well, although I had a

3157
03:00:23,910 --> 03:00:27,090
theory about Lutheranism, but
this well this.

3158
03:00:27,300 --> 03:00:31,680
Adam Curry: So this this is used
as Oh, you know, it's it's

3159
03:00:31,680 --> 03:00:34,800
kicking off is kind of the way
it's used as kicking off now.

3160
03:00:35,190 --> 03:00:40,140
And the bullet in question was
shot by the Spaniards. It was a

3161
03:00:40,140 --> 03:00:45,780
cannonball shot by the Spaniards
in 1573 during the siege of

3162
03:00:45,780 --> 03:00:49,890
Harlem, and they shot it right
through the st. BAVO. Carrick,

3163
03:00:50,220 --> 03:00:53,160
and you can still see the hole
that it made.

3164
03:00:54,330 --> 03:00:56,100
John C Dvorak: They kept it
intact. Well, I

3165
03:00:56,100 --> 03:00:58,380
Adam Curry: think they close the
hole up but they have a big

3166
03:00:58,380 --> 03:01:01,470
arrow like the hole was here
where it was the hole was here.

3167
03:01:02,190 --> 03:01:06,960
Yes. Wow. This is where the
whole 1573 These things have

3168
03:01:06,960 --> 03:01:10,500
staying power. Now the one that
was sent to me today, I cannot

3169
03:01:10,500 --> 03:01:14,370
believe we have not brought this
up on the show that you can use

3170
03:01:14,370 --> 03:01:20,760
this one when something bad has
just happened. And the phrase is

3171
03:01:20,970 --> 03:01:22,470
thrown under Khandekar.

3172
03:01:24,810 --> 03:01:26,670
John C Dvorak: Which means poop

3173
03:01:26,700 --> 03:01:29,340
Unknown: on the marble. Coop no

3174
03:01:29,340 --> 03:01:32,130
Adam Curry: poop poop on Lamar
poop poop on the morrow. This

3175
03:01:32,130 --> 03:01:36,780
John C Dvorak: is a gay San
Francisco saying it is. No, but

3176
03:01:36,780 --> 03:01:39,330
there's plenty of poop on marble
there. Yes.

3177
03:01:39,330 --> 03:01:43,530
Adam Curry: And this comes from
the 1700s when kids were playing

3178
03:01:43,530 --> 03:01:47,640
marbles, and, and often because
it was like so

3179
03:01:47,640 --> 03:01:51,480
Unknown: is about marbles. Yeah,
marble, no marbles, poop on the

3180
03:01:51,480 --> 03:01:51,840
marble

3181
03:01:51,840 --> 03:01:54,960
Adam Curry: cake. So they were
playing marbles. And it was like

3182
03:01:54,960 --> 03:01:59,250
San Francisco back in the
Netherlands in the 1700s. And,

3183
03:01:59,880 --> 03:02:02,880
and sometimes they would roll
the marble and it would roll

3184
03:02:02,880 --> 03:02:05,880
through the poop. And that's
when it meant Oh, there's poop

3185
03:02:05,880 --> 03:02:10,170
on the marble. Something's about
to happen. So you can use this

3186
03:02:10,170 --> 03:02:14,730
it's thrown on the clicker. Try
it with me John. strength on the

3187
03:02:14,730 --> 03:02:16,740
Connector Group on the kicker
world's

3188
03:02:16,740 --> 03:02:19,950
Unknown: gone mad but don't you
worry it's time for a tip of the

3189
03:02:19,950 --> 03:02:22,560
day with curry.

3190
03:02:24,120 --> 03:02:28,200
John C Dvorak: Brother Okay. We
will be using lossy send me a

3191
03:02:28,200 --> 03:02:30,960
couple of phrases that you got
down under you. You

3192
03:02:30,960 --> 03:02:33,210
Adam Curry: will be using this
you will be using thrown down

3193
03:02:33,210 --> 03:02:42,060
the connector. I guarantee you I
guarantee you. I think we were

3194
03:02:42,060 --> 03:02:45,030
gonna end it for today. But we
look forward to seeing you back

3195
03:02:45,030 --> 03:02:49,110
here on Thursday as we move
towards Fourth of July. Sunday.

3196
03:02:49,110 --> 03:02:51,270
I mean not Sunday, Thursday,
Sunday.

3197
03:02:51,600 --> 03:02:52,890
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Sunday.

3198
03:02:52,920 --> 03:02:55,590
Adam Curry: I got bone graft
going on. I'm amazed. I'm still

3199
03:02:55,620 --> 03:02:56,310
still sitting

3200
03:02:56,970 --> 03:02:58,710
John C Dvorak: here sound fine,
ya know?

3201
03:02:58,710 --> 03:03:03,900
Adam Curry: Sure. I feel great.
A bet we got Joe Biden's brain

3202
03:03:03,900 --> 03:03:07,350
coming up Brian Longnecker with
a little bit of dinero we got DS

3203
03:03:07,350 --> 03:03:12,150
last Professor J Jones and up
next on troll room.io The no

3204
03:03:12,150 --> 03:03:16,350
agenda stream in your modern
podcast app we have beer bourbon

3205
03:03:16,350 --> 03:03:20,310
and Balderdash, sir west of the
balderdash. So, enjoy that and

3206
03:03:20,310 --> 03:03:22,410
thank you all for tuning in.
Thank you for supporting the

3207
03:03:22,410 --> 03:03:25,710
show. Thank you for being here.
Trolls coming to you from the

3208
03:03:25,710 --> 03:03:28,860
heart of the Texas hill country
here in Fredericksburg, Texas in

3209
03:03:28,860 --> 03:03:31,140
the morning everybody. I'm Adam
curry

3210
03:03:31,260 --> 03:03:33,450
John C Dvorak: here from
Northern Silicon Valley where I

3211
03:03:33,450 --> 03:03:35,040
remain I'm John C Devorah

3212
03:03:35,070 --> 03:03:38,190
Adam Curry: remember us at no
agenda donations.com We'll see

3213
03:03:38,190 --> 03:03:44,130
you on Sunday till then adios
mofos or who we hooey and such

3214
03:03:49,080 --> 03:03:50,760
Unknown: when he's been
teammates you

3215
03:03:56,550 --> 03:03:57,090
we know

3216
03:04:06,900 --> 03:04:09,750
nothing Democrats

3217
03:04:19,140 --> 03:04:21,720
Adam Curry: i Crazy Stupid

3218
03:04:35,580 --> 03:04:44,190
Unknown: much noise talking
about a sign of stupid month

3219
03:04:46,950 --> 03:04:52,260
month he doesn't know what he's
talking about. The face national

3220
03:04:52,260 --> 03:04:56,880
disasters embarrassment to this
country recently so that this

3221
03:04:56,880 --> 03:05:01,170
country has gotten to this point
this this post In this roundup

3222
03:05:01,170 --> 03:05:05,490
where he has, he wants to punch
people in the face. Well, I'd

3223
03:05:05,490 --> 03:05:06,810
like to punch him in the face

3224
03:05:06,840 --> 03:05:09,810
Adam Curry: what people really
should do is just never watch

3225
03:05:09,840 --> 03:05:13,860
any news at all. Listen to us
twice a week just listen to us

3226
03:05:13,860 --> 03:05:17,370
once a week you'll get all the
news you'll find out what's

3227
03:05:17,370 --> 03:05:18,270
going on.

3228
03:05:18,690 --> 03:05:19,200
John C Dvorak: It's true.

3229
03:05:20,520 --> 03:05:23,910
Unknown: Okay, from the midnight
tweets to drink and bleach Bobby

3230
03:05:23,910 --> 03:05:26,970
the zero reading campaigns
providing sound like the leaks

3231
03:05:27,330 --> 03:05:31,440
are so endlessly entertained.
You're a joystick jiggler

3232
03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:34,200
illegal drugs that becoming
grain that's not me that's no

3233
03:05:34,200 --> 03:05:38,130
way you fall Harare evolution
the text from PS five to better

3234
03:05:38,130 --> 03:05:42,030
reflect and sorry, maybe uncle
Ted he said it best in the

3235
03:05:42,030 --> 03:05:46,440
manifesto saying what he thought
that we would manifest bro once

3236
03:05:46,440 --> 03:05:49,590
you introduce the tech
visionaries looking forward

3237
03:05:49,590 --> 03:05:52,650
never back the way the SEC trade
offs in cultures that succeed

3238
03:05:52,650 --> 03:05:56,280
and flourish. Structure barter
ran a tight family it's how you

3239
03:05:56,280 --> 03:06:00,450
nourish now you're adding the MK
yo triples the program down and

3240
03:06:00,450 --> 03:06:03,540
change your project name but
leaves OSI up in the culture

3241
03:06:03,690 --> 03:06:08,370
Stanford experiments at MIT
Tavistock Institute in CAMH what

3242
03:06:08,370 --> 03:06:12,690
do we see? mental hospitals are
the new jails actually they had

3243
03:06:12,690 --> 03:06:15,570
bigger numbers and were open
first that means to tell

3244
03:06:15,750 --> 03:06:17,850
John C Dvorak: but there was a
little piece of propaganda in

3245
03:06:17,850 --> 03:06:18,870
there that I just said

3246
03:06:21,450 --> 03:06:24,030
Unknown: when you speak about
and pointing out negativity they

3247
03:06:24,030 --> 03:06:27,090
call you a grifter recall you
were butchered now used to be

3248
03:06:27,690 --> 03:06:27,900
his

3249
03:06:27,900 --> 03:06:31,560
Adam Curry: pride month John
United they got dudes and

3250
03:06:31,560 --> 03:06:32,160
dresses it

3251
03:06:32,160 --> 03:06:34,770
Unknown: physically crunch and
process all that gigabyte and

3252
03:06:34,770 --> 03:06:35,730
that means something

3253
03:06:37,740 --> 03:06:42,720
Adam Curry: that is queer care
for you to fall from that Cheeto

3254
03:06:42,720 --> 03:06:43,410
dust

3255
03:06:46,260 --> 03:06:47,160
Unknown: PLEASE

3256
03:06:47,490 --> 03:06:50,910
John C Dvorak: NO NO now it's
like a disaster. And that means

3257
03:06:50,910 --> 03:06:54,300
something said Winburn thing
you'll never hear it again.

3258
03:06:54,330 --> 03:06:55,230
Adam Curry: Time to make fun

3259
03:06:56,850 --> 03:07:00,210
John C Dvorak: blaming on the
black guy. They have to do this

3260
03:07:00,240 --> 03:07:02,280
at 82 degrees.

3261
03:07:03,030 --> 03:07:07,050
Adam Curry: Bude and fall
excessive heat warnings and

3262
03:07:07,050 --> 03:07:09,630
dangerous heat wave it's just
sick

3263
03:07:11,610 --> 03:07:13,110
Unknown: sad reporting guys

3264
03:07:17,910 --> 03:07:22,590
Adam Curry: you care about
pronouns? That's it. I would say

3265
03:07:22,590 --> 03:07:29,220
it's more like sucking up being
a slime ball please. attention

3266
03:07:29,220 --> 03:07:33,750
whore get off of carbon and that
means I think we should sell

3267
03:07:33,750 --> 03:07:35,190
carbon offsets

3268
03:07:36,060 --> 03:07:42,660
really know the difference
between the 92 and 100 LGBTQ

3269
03:07:42,660 --> 03:07:47,010
plus healthcare equality high
performer dressed in looks like

3270
03:07:47,010 --> 03:07:47,280
a new

3271
03:07:48,570 --> 03:07:51,300
Unknown: can people their name
their pronouns using those

3272
03:07:51,300 --> 03:07:51,870
correctly?

3273
03:07:52,230 --> 03:07:55,740
I got gigabyte going on
physically crunched, just

3274
03:07:55,770 --> 03:07:58,680
physically crunch your care.

3275
03:08:01,110 --> 03:08:03,840
John C Dvorak: Back there's some
suffering from his warning

3276
03:08:04,110 --> 03:08:04,560
pictures

3277
03:08:04,560 --> 03:08:09,270
Adam Curry: of Cuba at the beach
to stop us from podcast. It's

3278
03:08:09,270 --> 03:08:11,250
about being misgendered

3279
03:08:12,720 --> 03:08:14,250
Unknown: resignation really
means

3280
03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:18,990
it's just offensive and he went
by there so fast that the women

3281
03:08:18,990 --> 03:08:20,490
burn the hell out of the
doctrine

3282
03:08:21,510 --> 03:08:24,270
Adam Curry: by going on and that
means something get off the

3283
03:08:24,270 --> 03:08:26,250
carbon decompose.

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