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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
Dvorak may 26 2024 This Year

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Award winning give on AC media
assassination episode 1663. This

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is no agenda revisiting and
broadcasting almost live from

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the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm looking

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out my window and the ocean
hasn't arisen. What am I doing

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here? I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: And Bushkill. All
right, this is where everyone

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gets to listen to us as we've
sounded for the past five or six

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years and wait until you hear
the rest of the show. It will

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sound remarkably different. It's
the big climate change special,

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John?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, you put
this together based on using the

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new being at IO. Search engine,
you found a bunch of stuff and

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you couldn't get it. Now you're
telling us you couldn't get past

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show? 100 you actually filled
all show up? Yes. Yes,

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Adam Curry: I started at the
first that I searched for global

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warming being at.io, which
anybody can put together a clip

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show, by the way, hint, hint,
any topic you want works really

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well. You can also embed stuff
into your favorite social

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network. So the first mention of
global warming was November

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30 2007. Okay, 2007. That was
AlphaGo. That was the first

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mention when but I think and
that's our probably our first

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clip up when you're talking
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there was no change, there was
supposed to be horrible weather,

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and there was only one
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consistent throughout the entire
first 100 episodes, which takes

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us up to just about 2009. And
that had towers, I'm like, I

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gotta stop here. And that was
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climate change, even I went
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in a couple of things that I
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throw in some some extra stuff.
It's insane. How nothing has

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changed. It's all about getting
rid of meat.

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John C Dvorak: It's always about
the meat.

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Adam Curry: It's the it's an all
you can see all these things

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have changed over time. Like we
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burps all of a sudden that that
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John C Dvorak: could the cow
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Adam Curry: I think it's just
beautiful that we have this

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capability now to do this. So we
can revisit every single mention

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of global warming just in the
first couple of years, which

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John C Dvorak: we got 10 More
shows to do on this easily,

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Adam Curry: easily. We can do
it. Alright, well can't get up.

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I'm sorry.

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John C Dvorak: Let me as safe as
you can get this much material,

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although it's the same material
recycled obviously. Exactly what

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not by us by them.

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Adam Curry: Well, what's what's
interesting is the amount of

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things that I had completely
forgotten about, it's some good

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revisitation of up just the
source material, when it all

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kicked off, it was all very
early on in the game. And you'll

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sit there and go, Wow, nothing
has really changed. Those guys

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are great. That's the main
point, I want you to think those

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guys are great. Let's kick it
off by going back to the very

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beginning episode for

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John C Dvorak: the sciences. You
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really jacked up about global
warming, there was these 26

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hurricanes at the US. And so
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they're all the whole climate
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run for the hills run for the
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there, they were one of these,
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meteorologist area, you know,
arenas or I don't know what they

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are, but these schools that have
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and they're big shots,
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predicted 17 We're gonna hit
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horrible, and it's getting worse
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global warming. One Yeah, I

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Adam Curry: was gonna say, I
can't think of more than one,

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John C Dvorak: no one hit the
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hit, you know, Central America,
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many. So it was a dud. So, so
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know, climatologists and all
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don't know anything. And

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Adam Curry: we're still waiting
for the huge superstorm that is

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supposed to hit the west coast
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John C Dvorak: science. Yeah.
Well, a lot of people think it's

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just a scam. I mean, there's
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change happening. You can tell
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winemakers anywhere in the
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things have changed. But it's
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part of wine. It's the go Yeah,
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man. Come on, really. Notice all
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like, you know, they've always
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that Reds have never been any
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week, whites are always kind of,
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the last nonetheless, almost up
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making tremendous red wines,
which is really weird. Nobody

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even believes it until it's
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making this just one great
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these term, just terrific white
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well priced and descend in this
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because if people don't
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changing their labeling laws.
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think this the same thing is
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Washington, especially Oregon
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looks like burgundy is having a
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which is an area that make Pinot
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and there's crappie, for the
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good ones, and are these

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Adam Curry: are these young
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about that are really good are
the older vintages?

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John C Dvorak: No, no, that
starting around in Burgundy, it

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started at around I'm about 99,
something like that maybe nice

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95. And I think it's somewhere
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but but by the beginning of the
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almost like they're hitting
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being the most recent Super
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everyplace else. It's just you
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wines. When you get a hold of
one, even though they're not

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ready to drink yet. And you go
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anything like this forever.

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Adam Curry: Well, next time.
Next time in town. We'll have to

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have one on you have not
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a
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promise finding a good German
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Francisco is probably a little
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there's probably a few places
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Adam Curry: So are we gonna
we're gonna have time to have

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dinner next week before I head
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, Wednesday
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already. Science. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: there's this the
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there's you can you can even
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the cloud layer, which is
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coming down directly from the
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like a low pressure system just
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ago, the temperature went from
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eight and, and hail started
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snowing within the next five
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John C Dvorak: Oh, nice.

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Adam Curry: That's crazy. Nice.

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John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I
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the fact that Al Gore came out
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Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
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I mean, global warming. How can
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John C Dvorak: Climate change
now go really global warming,

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depending on who you talk to. So
I just, you know, there was a

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report that was reported. I
think Nature magazine, some guy

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wrote an editorial saying that
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redoing the calculations issue.
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do, we can't stop the climate so
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Adam Curry: Yeah, it goes up it
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built. Well, let's not even get
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to deal with the email. There's
some some things we say man on

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the show that just generates so
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it up. It's science that hey,
I'm making fish in my

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John C Dvorak: pond. Why would
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off the beginning of the week
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they're going on in it and then
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talking about some green thing
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Bill Margot's. When there's one
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about, which is meat. People eat
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much grain and all the grain and
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about grass fed which is really
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today is people want don't want
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fed when most of these that
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know, otherwise useless field.
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there. The Buffalo used to do
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in, but it's part of the
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deep end, like some vegetarian
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this is the worst thing in the
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stations, channel 11 in San
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have this green unit report and
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some screwball correspondents
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report to Green report. Sorry,
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kinds of, you know, looks like
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woman comes on and she goes and
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grain, but that there, this,
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is always like an eye roller.
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this. What are you? criminally
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Adam Curry: that person in jail?
Not Wesley Snipes, are you nuts?

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John C Dvorak: anyway, and but
this is all part of this Green

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undercurrent, you know, with the
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you sick to watch it because
it's like, obvious propaganda.

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And the news reporters say
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idiotic methane thing from the
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just grass fed, but that's
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there's nobody brings anything
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this. They just pair it,
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from whoever's behind the whole
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of that. And I find the whole
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It is. And I think myself clear.
I'm Yeah,

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Adam Curry: I love it when you
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true. Okay, then let me start
right off the bat with a trend,

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which is huge protests in Europe
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in particular Diesel. Have you
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John C Dvorak: Heard about, but
the diesel thing has fascinated

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me because even at the even
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Adam Curry: you have to
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John C Dvorak: mean, I kind of
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there's a baffling aspect to it.
Because this is not a normal

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sneaking up and it became the
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Adam Curry: i Well, I've made a
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in Europe, I know why it's
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what all these governments have
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co2 emission tax on diesel. And,
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John C Dvorak: I don't know of
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Adam Curry: which of course, is
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producing more co2 to be I mean,
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Adam Curry: what is happening is
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that's that's a real big problem
that's straight to your bottom

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's
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seeing TV ads bragging about how
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like tons of stuff for a nickel
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seeing why I've never seen I
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Adam Curry: in fact, if anything
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John C Dvorak: Well, here
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even that is I guess there's
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there's something screwy going
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John C Dvorak: great thing about
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his last interview with Charlie
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give it like to slow his
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he was gonna get slammed for
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far as he concerns a crock of
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have evidence that it's a crock
of crap, but because people have

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subscribed, they have subscribed
their personality. In other

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words, it's almost like, you
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way with, you know, this Mac
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where it began in 1984. And, and
really never ended. And you

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criticize a Macintosh. And the
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Macintosh by buying one and
thinking is really good. They

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think you're criticizing them.
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have internalized outside
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form of materialism that is very
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personality. And this type of
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being materialistic about
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you've bought in to something to
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invalid, you defend the
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valid, because you are 100% in
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Adam Curry: So the handyman he's
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many years, which is good, you
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all the new plumbing and
everything. So now, he knows how

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everything works. He's got the,
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where it is. So that's great.
And he says something to me that

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I was like, really. And here it
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the bottom and find small tiny
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winter in more than 30 years.
Experts said yesterday. There

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you go my friend, global global
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John C Dvorak: I'm supposed to
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I'm not because the the coldest
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know. I predicted to be the
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Adam Curry: there's an ice storm
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warming for you. We're all going
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John C Dvorak: And it's snowing
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Adam Curry: of course, that's
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climate change. But you know
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important and very relevant to
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their big powwow. And, you know,
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the next phase of regulation
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and environment. They are now
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credits. Yep. Nice. I told you
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this carbon credits. Everything
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John C Dvorak: told Yeah.
Because carbon credits are a

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guilt free version of tax. Yeah,
exactly. And you're paying taxes

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and you're supposed to feel good
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Adam Curry: know what the
analogy is paying paying a thin

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person monies to you don't have
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but it doesn't actually reduce
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someone has to produce less
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credit that you've purchased.
Everyone's just buying the

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credits. That's what it's all
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tricked out. Man. You Eastern.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, can we're
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have some sort of a deal with
the US? No, you and me a carbon

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Adam Curry: deal?

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John C Dvorak: Why aren't we
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Adam Curry: mean, I'm telling
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totally be doing this. Because
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exchanges are popping up
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a lot in the mid 90s of we at
the time we had made Easton Mae

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West a member everyone was I
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in Amsterdam for Christ's sake,
it was the thing to do to have

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an exchange of bandwidth. This
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got to have an exchange of
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an Excel spreadsheet. Google on
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John C Dvorak: And what kills me
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day says would you like to, to
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Adam Curry: So So while this is
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took place this two day meeting,
where they decide okay, they're

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gonna put 200 billion euros into
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though that's only half of what
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failing with in its own country
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billion euro tax which is going
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new tax. And there are over 600
scientists who are preparing now

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to sue Al Gore over and the IPCC
over there, bogus climate change

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global warming report, which of
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anywhere, but 600 PhDs, dude, I
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John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
you know what the reason is, is

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because I think they have been
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run into it all the time and
people that ever do when we

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talked about on the show
somebody right away, you don't

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know, the IPCC said this and
that, and why are you even

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making these assertions? Yeah.
And I think a lot of people, a

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Adam Curry: are you telling me
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actually use the word
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John C Dvorak: Well, that those
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Adam Curry: just want to make
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John C Dvorak: I very rarely use
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Adam Curry: I like it, though.
We should use that more often,

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John C Dvorak: as we should
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lot of people out there who are,
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the the climatologist, or
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shape, or form. And they have
been put into the same sack

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because of this notion that
everybody agrees. Everybody

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Adam Curry: the discussion is
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John C Dvorak: more than
consensus, everybody, everybody,

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nobody disagrees with this. Not
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PhD, who maybe has some thoughts
on it, and you have some other

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kinds of data. And your friends
come up to you at the cocktail

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party. And they go on about
putting you pigeon holing you

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Adam Curry: worse. It's even
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or researcher, your research
funding gets pulled. That's why

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people are so quiet about it,
because they're afraid that

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their money is going to go away.

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John C Dvorak: But the lawsuits
law diamond, I think the more

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people should join the lawsuit,
there's I'm sure there's more

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than 600 debt are irked about
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Adam Curry: In fact, there's
about 30,000, I believe, but

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that's not all PhDs. These are
just the PhDs, the business and

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Media Institute. I've no idea
who they are. But this is a

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John C Dvorak: we'll get to know
who they are. They're a bunch of

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a right wing nuts that don't
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I'm just gonna.

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Adam Curry: Well, they have
data, they have data, so I'm

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just going to presume the data
is right for the sake of

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argument, the business and Media
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alternative opinions to the so
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on. About how you know, it's

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pretty much the media just
jumped on and said, Okay, we're

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all gonna die. Hey, roll some of
those polar bear footage. Come

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on. Let's head out. That's good
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John C Dvorak: I should bleeds
it leads. Exactly.

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Adam Curry: So CBS was the
worst. Has 151 People used by

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the network to promote global
warming, hysteria. And 28 people

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who even questioned it somewhat.

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John C Dvorak: So watch

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Adam Curry: that it's not a
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John C Dvorak: Did someone well,
you know, it's bullshit. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: it's amazing what's
taking place. Our financial

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system is going to be based on
this lie. And granted Hey, I'm

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all for saving the Earth. I'm
all for less pollution. No doubt

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about it.

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John C Dvorak: About China
they're polluting California

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from a distance. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Now, there's plenty
we can do and should be doing

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but this whole idea of buying
credits so that you can continue

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to pollute that somewhere
someone down the line like my

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children's children's children
will then apparently have to

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produce less they're talking
about plants a tree did a talk

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talking about a 20% reduction
promised by all all of the EU in

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carbon emissions 20% Nice,

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Unknown: good else groom tell
your fake internet girlfriend,

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you're gonna be AFK for about 10
minutes. Because it's

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motherfucking Science Time.

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Adam Curry: You blog the Gideon
Rachman story in the Financial

448
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Times. He's a columnist and he
said he was talking about you

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00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:48,360
know the possibility of you know
tongue in cheek article about

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the New World Order, etc.
Alright, that guy? Yeah, that

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guy. There's a follow up to
that. I was wondering like your

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power.

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John C Dvorak: Don't you know
him? No, no, no, no.

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Adam Curry: You've got to read
his follow up. that he posted on

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his blog, I'll just I'll just
read you the conclusion. Because

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he knew what happened is he says
I couldn't believe the amount of

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email that he got. From, you
know, from from out there. He

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says, you know, hundreds of
pieces of email, here's his

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conclusions. There's an
undeniable amount of anger and

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hatred out there directed
everything from the United

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Nation to Knight United Nations
to big business to Barack Obama.

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These people can't read can
read, but they cannot think he

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says, so. He's not my buddy,
dude. It gets worse. The End of

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Days crowd is very strong. I
would say that about a third of

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the emails I got referred me to
the book of Revelation, in which

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apparently all it is all
foretold. Three, there's a lot

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of people who believe not only
that global warming is a hoax,

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but that it is actually a
conspiracy. The fact that the

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most influential reports on
climate change had been produced

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by an intergovernmental panel,
the IPCC, sponsored by the UN

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fuels this theory. The idea is
that the UN is perpetuating a

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climate change hoax to provide
an excuse to impose a world

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government on America. I am a
part of it, apparently, he says,

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totally, boldly. Anyway, so he
winds up he does have a funny

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line at the end here, something
positive has come out of this

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experience. If the newspaper
industry really goes down the

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pan, I now have a business plan.
I will claim to be a former

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member of the Bilderberg
Illuminati Council on Foreign

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Relations, un Zionist
establishment and write a book

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revealing the inside story of a
plot to form a world government,

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it will sell millions in

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Unknown: the face of
overwhelming odds, I'm left with

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only one option. I'm gonna have
to science the shit out of this.

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John C Dvorak: Obama picks
climate specialist as science

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advisor. Don't

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Adam Curry: even get me started
on that one. Yeah, I think so. I

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haven't been able to find the
link. But somewhere I heard

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somewhere I read someone that
said, Al Gore said these colder

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periods are entirely indicative
of global warming.

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John C Dvorak: I know I get it
every time we we bring this up

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on the show quite a bit. I love
doing it. We just get an email

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from somebody saying it's
natural to be colder during

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global warming. You know, it's
yeah, of course it is. Makes

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nothing but sense.

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Adam Curry: It's natural for it
to be colder during global

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warming. Yes, I understand. I
totally get it. So. So that's

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that is quite interesting.

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John C Dvorak: I think it was
said to be the note, he said

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also says that he says global
warming climate change, they're

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trying to change the term
themselves, is going to result

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in really weird erratic weather.
And I'm thinking because I don't

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know I mean, if you start
reading the I, because I did

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this as a project, once I read
all in New York Times newspapers

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from about 1858 to about 1868.
How

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Adam Curry: long did that take?
You?

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John C Dvorak: Took a long time,
it took a number of months. And

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I was collecting stories may or
may not have been the period

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might have been from 18 6080 to
78. But it was it was during the

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around the Civil War. And and
I'm not sure I think yeah, I

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think it was I think the times
was in business. And I think it

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was at the time I was reading.
And it was I was looking at all

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the articles

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Adam Curry: that you read the
originals, of course, when they

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came out in 1886. So of course,
but

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John C Dvorak: my mom threw them
away. So anyway. So I'm reading

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this and they were talking about
erratic weather. I mean, if you

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start reading the history of
weather in the United States,

518
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it's been erratic since day one,
you know, storms of frogs, you

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00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:44,430
know, it'd be something happened
in North Dakota, and it's just

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like rain frogs, you know, all
over the place. And, you know, I

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guess there were frogs, I knew
people who had this immunity

522
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:52,170
couldn't get outside without
stepping out a bunch of frogs

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that were raining down for some
unknown reason. Nobody even knew

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where the frogs came from. And I
mean, I remember that one

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distinctly going, which is a
real head shaker. And there's

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all kinds of, you know, weird to
have in the Mormon legend about

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the those locusts if you've ever
seen one of those bugs that the

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big ones monsters scare size of
a rat. Yeah, they're scary. And

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apparently they came in, you
know, in some weather situation,

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and they just gobbled up the
state of Utah, which is still a

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desert. And, I mean, this is
nothing new. This erratic

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weather we've had the biggest
hurricanes we've had in the

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past. And there's a hurricane
that hit Connecticut some, you

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know, around the turn of the
century or sometime in the, you

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know, I think it was like, I
can't remember the date, but it

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was 100 years ago. And so this
is bull. I mean, you know,

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there's right now it's snowing
in

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Adam Curry: Vegas. In Vegas.
It's snowing. It's snowing in

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Vegas.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
snowing in Vegas. Just weather's

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what we have science. So

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Adam Curry: weather wise, we are
freezing our tits off here in

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the United Kingdom.

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John C Dvorak: In cooking here
in Northern California, God in

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00:29:59,370 --> 00:30:00,000
the Netherlands.

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Adam Curry: They're now they do
this whenever it really, really

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gets cold and I haven't heard
this chatter for at least a

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00:30:05,370 --> 00:30:08,970
decade. But then they start
threatening with cranking up the

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11 city natural ice canal race,
which is famous famous in the

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Netherlands, where, you know,
it's all done a naturalized on

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canals, under and around bridges
and it's 11 cities, it's

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hundreds of kilometers, you
know, people lose their, their

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toes, their fingers, their
lives, but it's, it's a huge,

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huge cultural deal. And I hope
it happens again, but just goes

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to show that there's some funky
going on.

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John C Dvorak: I know they do
that in Ottawa city. Because

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00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:41,760
they don't, you know, it's not
as always freezing. But

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Adam Curry: this is like Han
This is the legend of Hans

559
00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:46,170
Brinker in the silver skates
right this is what that is

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00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:47,640
about. This is that story.

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John C Dvorak: So it freezes
that bad that that that those

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all those canals get frozen
over? Well, it hasn't. It

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Adam Curry: was only Well, you
know, it was only one freezing

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over an hour or No, no, no, it's
it's the freezing is really

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started now. So now everyone's
talking about cranking up the

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00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:07,020
competition. But the last time
you know, it had been a while

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until of course the Al Gore
proclaimed global warming that's

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when you know, luckily we have
the the 11th city you can always

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come back

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John C Dvorak: to I'm reminded
of the I've always said to

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people, you know, the day that
the term paperless office was

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00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,860
coined. If you'd invested in
paper mills, right, then you'd

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00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:28,380
been make a fortune, you would
have made a fortune.

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Adam Curry: Well, you know, my
dad always says the paperless

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00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,950
office is as likely as the
paperless toilet science, so

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00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:39,180
much mainstream media attention
being paid to stuff like this

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00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:42,720
stupid Spaghetti Monster hitting
the wind turbine and no, we've

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00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,170
got to space sounds from outer
space. And Obama wants to

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accelerate and put us on the
moon like Didn't we already see

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00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:52,710
that movie before? But anyway,
we're gonna get on the moon. I'm

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thinking that

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00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,280
John C Dvorak: Obama is a
fractal of Kennedy. Right?

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00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,130
Adam Curry: Well, he will.
here's the here's the scenario.

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The scenario is, you know, of
course, there's more and more

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00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:07,260
descent coming from amongst the
slaves saying wait a minute

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00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:10,650
global warming. Yeah, okay, we
got to protect Earth but hold on

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00:32:10,650 --> 00:32:13,230
a second. What are all these
taxes for this unproven theory

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00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:17,370
of yours? And what they're going
to do next is they're going to

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00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:21,420
have space aliens communicate to
us and tell us that we're

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killing our world and carbon
credits are good for us

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00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:26,010
something like that is in the
works.

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John C Dvorak: I like it. Yeah,
I

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Adam Curry: mean, I gonna be

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John C Dvorak: a hard one to
pull off. Are you kidding me? If

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00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:39,810
any amania equity would think
that that could work? Okay, I am

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00:32:39,810 --> 00:32:44,340
in outer space and we must tell
you Earth means science. The

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00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:47,010
news let me get to the story
because breaking as we speak

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those who come in one after
another Wait a minute. Wait a

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00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:50,340
minute. What breaking

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Adam Curry: news this is no
agenda. We have breaking news.

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John Cena with Jim Brown.

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John C Dvorak: Breaking breaking
news in this case is the no pun

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00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:09,420
intended because we're talking
about cow flatulence again. And

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00:33:09,870 --> 00:33:13,650
sheep belching so there's a
breaking aspect to it. Okay, hit

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apparently according to all
these articles that just showed

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up. In fact, in today's Wall
Street Journal, it turns out

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that sheep belching may account
for 12% of manmade global

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warming.

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Adam Curry: Okay, this isn't the
Wall Street Journal you say?

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Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: today's Wall
Street Journal big story on

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sheep belching because the sheep
apparently belch methane. And

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then if I was looking this up a
little bit, and it looked at

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according to one story 12% of
Australian greenhouse gases come

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00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:51,060
from livestock flatulence again,
another breaking story me was

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I'm looking at all these
different these stories and I

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write in you if you start
scratching the surface of global

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warming or as they now call it
climate change because you know,

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they did the other word is was
getting ready wasn't

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Adam Curry: it wasn't working
anymore. It

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John C Dvorak: wasn't working.
But I like it. I still like it

622
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:10,920
global warming, it sounds
better. So if you scratch the

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surface of it, you keep coming
up with the same thing. Vegans

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00:34:15,180 --> 00:34:19,410
with an agenda and vegetarians
is though somebody came up with

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00:34:19,410 --> 00:34:22,440
this neat idea some years ago
that if you blame, you know, if

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00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,350
you get on this global warming
kick, then you can attack the

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livestock because at some point,
you know, because of their

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belching and farting, there's
you could attribute global

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warming to them. And so I run
into the newspaper in Ontario

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called the standard St.
Catharines. The town St.

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Catharines standard and I think
they headline kind of like says

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it all and it's about global
warming, but the headline is, we

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00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:53,670
need to solve the now quote
marks meet problem Ah,

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00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:57,599
Adam Curry: yes, I have a meet
problem that I need solving to

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00:34:58,319 --> 00:35:04,439
and you can email me And this is
unbelievable. But it makes so

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00:35:04,439 --> 00:35:07,859
much sense. Because, you know,
we know that this satellite

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00:35:07,859 --> 00:35:11,339
failed to separate from the
payload from the cone. How

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00:35:11,339 --> 00:35:14,399
ironic. Yeah, this was the big
fail. This was the satellite

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00:35:14,399 --> 00:35:18,629
that was actually going to
measure the sheep belching and

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00:35:18,629 --> 00:35:23,519
cow flatulence is a part of
manmade climate change from

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00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:28,889
space. You know, it's out of
control.

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00:35:30,270 --> 00:35:32,370
John C Dvorak: And wonder what
was going on during the era

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where the entire western plains
are covered with millions and

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00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:38,070
millions and millions of bison?

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00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,060
Adam Curry: Well, they surely
you know that bison, they must

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00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:45,120
already know they don't fart
man. Now, by the way, I have

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00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,050
done a quite a bit of sheep
sharing in my day, when I was

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00:35:50,010 --> 00:35:53,130
much younger, we lived just
south of Amsterdam, and a small

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00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:55,680
farming village. And it was a
lot of fun, really, you know,

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the old fashioned way? With
shears. And I have held many

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00:36:01,350 --> 00:36:06,090
sheep between my legs. There's a
great drop for you. I've held

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00:36:06,090 --> 00:36:09,480
many sheep between my legs, but
I've never heard one belch ever.

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00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:13,470
Have you? Well, no,

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00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:14,460
John C Dvorak: actually, we have
a sheep.

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Adam Curry: And does he belt?

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00:36:16,890 --> 00:36:19,980
John C Dvorak: I have never
noticed it. Maybe when they go

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by? That's actually a belt?

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00:36:22,589 --> 00:36:24,449
Adam Curry: Well, I think I can
tie a couple things

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00:36:24,449 --> 00:36:26,219
John C Dvorak: together. Sounds
like a belt,

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Adam Curry: the meat problem. I
like that, that you've latched

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on to that. Cuz I've it hit me
earlier this week. That the

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smart grid. It has it of course
it has to do with energy power.

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But it has to do with a lot
more. And I started looking into

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it into the smart grid. Now a
lot of the money for the smart

665
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grid will be dished out by an
outfit call. I'm sure you've

666
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heard of them the western area
Power Administration.

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John C Dvorak: Have you heard of
them? No, actually, I haven't

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heard of them. Okay,

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Adam Curry: wow. Well, the
Western Power a western area

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Power Administration. I'll read
I'm just reading from their

671
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website wapa.gov part of the
government the part of the

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Recovery and Reinvestment Act of
2009, which, of course is the

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the big stimulus package. It
grants the western area Power

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Administration, the authority to
borrow up to 3.2 5 billion from

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the US Treasury has a whole
bunch of basically, they hand

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out the grants. And so as I'm
looking through, you know, just

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going down as deep as I can
write

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John C Dvorak: any grants we can
get?

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Adam Curry: Well, interesting.
So they they're handing out a

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lot of money to GE and IBM.
These are the two corporations

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who are going to receive most of
this Smart Grid money. And IBM

682
00:38:03,089 --> 00:38:05,759
writes about Well, here's a
little piece from IBM as it as

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it pertains to their grant. The
world is becoming instrumented

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by 2010, there will be a billion
trends, transistors per human,

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each one costing one
10,000,000th of ascent. The

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world is becoming interconnected
with a trillion network things

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cars, roadways, pipelines,
appliances, pharmaceuticals, and

688
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,959
even livestock. The amount of
information created by those

689
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interactions grows
exponentially. And as you look

690
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through it, a part of this smart
grid will be tracking livestock.

691
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Ah, so of course, how do you
track lives and also livestock

692
00:38:46,259 --> 00:38:49,499
feed, I'm sure it's going to be
a part of it. So when you track

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livestock is very simple because
even my pets are chipped. They

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all have a little chip inserted,
and it's an RFID RFID chip, and

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they can they can track each
individual piece of meat while a

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part of the meat problem. The
science says Did you know that

697
00:39:05,909 --> 00:39:08,939
Gordon Brown was in Washington
did any of that reach you amidst

698
00:39:08,939 --> 00:39:11,609
all of this proposition eight
and Britney Spears news?

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John C Dvorak: We all we know is
that apparently Gordon Brown was

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supposed to meet with Obama and
Obama says it's snowing so they

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call the snow day.

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Adam Curry: app really? Oh man,

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John C Dvorak: and they never
had the meeting as well. I mean,

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that's the last I heard maybe
they had the meeting sense.

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Well, this.

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Adam Curry: There were a couple
of snow days being called Nancy

707
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Pelosi was supposed to speak at
the Al Gore Tony Blair was there

708
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,640
at the Global Warming
conference. Of course, she got

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snowed out couldn't couldn't
land. The Global Warming

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00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:40,560
conference.

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John C Dvorak: Global warming,
no doubt.

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Unknown: And do you have any
idea who this man is? Yes, we

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have. It appears their agenda is
political. I don't care what

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their agenda is. This is
science. I won't be scared into

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not doing my research.

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Adam Curry: This man is not your
normal radical Prince Charles

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00:39:57,870 --> 00:40:02,970
who just want I thought the guy
was going to be Okay. From AP,

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00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:08,130
Britain's Prince Charles warned
on Thursday mankind has 100

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months or less to save the
planet from a climate cause

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disaster.

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John C Dvorak: Didn't they say
this? Like a couple of years

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ago?

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Adam Curry: 100 months or less?

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John C Dvorak: Here's what
bothers me. We had a story that

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we have one, we have a climate
change junkie on the blog. He's

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always every time you post any
skepticism, he posts something

727
00:40:29,550 --> 00:40:33,810
else. It's says we're all
doomed. But the one that gets me

728
00:40:33,810 --> 00:40:39,150
is the more recent mention of
this guy, climate change expert

729
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:43,410
Nicholas Stern, who's told 2000
climate scientists meeting in

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Copenhagen that they failed to
clearly tell humanity what it

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faces if global temperatures
reached the upper range of

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forecasts made by the IPCC,
which is what we have united we

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started all this Yeah, united in
are in the United Nations in our

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00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600
government Panel for Climate
Change and destroying all

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00:41:00,630 --> 00:41:04,950
Western economies as should be
the real title. He says there's

736
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been a lot of scientific
evidence he goes on and on, he

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00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:10,440
says, new findings show that
these projections were vastly

738
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,640
understated. And everyone who is
worse than we thought, what am I

739
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:18,540
thinking when I read this stuff?
It? Can't you get this right. I

740
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mean, it's like worse than
retires better than retires

741
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worse than we thought. Where are
the numbers are so solid? Why do

742
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they keep upgrading and changing
them and in flux? I mean, in

743
00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:33,060
other words, if we're so
solidly, you know, we have

744
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:36,360
strong evidence that's
irrefutable. And everyone

745
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,720
agrees. Well, did everyone agree
that it just changed? I can't

746
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,570
Adam Curry: believe that Prince
Charles is not on the front page

747
00:41:42,570 --> 00:41:45,000
of every single newspaper with
this. Listen to what he's

748
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,570
saying. The best projections
tell us that we have less than

749
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100 months to alter our behavior
before we risk catastrophic

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00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:55,890
climate change and the
unimaginable horrors that this

751
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:59,940
would bring. What are those
horrors you asked John? Any

752
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:02,730
difficulties which the world
faces today will be nothing

753
00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:05,670
compared to the full effects
which global warming will have

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on the worldwide economy. He
said, it will result in vast

755
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:13,410
movements of people escaping
either flooding or droughts,

756
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droughts, in uncertain
production of foods and lack of

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00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:21,780
water and of course, increasing
social instability and potential

758
00:42:21,780 --> 00:42:25,800
conflict. It will affect the
well being of every man, woman

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and child on our planet. What's
happening is the science is

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00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:36,930
screaming at us. And the papers
here again, the George monad

761
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Monbiot

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John C Dvorak: from The
Guardian, guys, a communist, he

763
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wrote

764
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Adam Curry: a book, someone sent
me a link to his book on Amazon,

765
00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:52,560
do you are you familiar with his
book? No. manifesto of a new for

766
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,600
a new world order. I swear to
God, it's a big red book

767
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,870
manifesto for a new world order.
Okay.

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John C Dvorak: You know, I read
that guy, and I just makes it's

769
00:43:04,109 --> 00:43:06,269
one of the few writers I don't
remember that much. But I run

770
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into his stuff. Because he, you
know, he's in The Guardian, you

771
00:43:08,669 --> 00:43:11,879
know, which is a red paper. And
so I'm reading this stuff, and I

772
00:43:11,909 --> 00:43:15,569
look, it's just it's so I can
see where some people maybe

773
00:43:15,569 --> 00:43:18,269
don't like my commentary about
the Macintosh. Because you

774
00:43:18,269 --> 00:43:20,609
actually started your blood
starts to boil about halfway

775
00:43:20,609 --> 00:43:23,459
through, it mainly begun his
case because I know how to write

776
00:43:23,459 --> 00:43:27,269
propaganda. And I can see him
using this technique. It's just

777
00:43:27,299 --> 00:43:29,399
befuddled the poor reader

778
00:43:30,869 --> 00:43:33,479
Adam Curry: article from The
Telegraph who are on to this.

779
00:43:35,249 --> 00:43:38,069
What's worrying the globalists
are all the signs that the

780
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:41,039
world's politicians coverage on
Copenhagen in December to

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00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:43,559
discuss the successor to the
Kyoto Protocol under the

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00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:47,699
guidance of the UN, IPCC, the
Intergovernmental Panel on

783
00:43:47,699 --> 00:43:51,749
Climate Change, there'll be so
much disagreement, that they

784
00:43:51,779 --> 00:43:54,269
won't be able to get more
drastic measures to cut carbon

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00:43:54,269 --> 00:43:56,639
emissions. So the name of the
game last week, according to

786
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this article, as we see from a
sample of quotations was to win

787
00:43:59,939 --> 00:44:02,909
headlines by claiming everything
is far worse than previously

788
00:44:02,909 --> 00:44:07,769
suppose, sea level rises by 2100
could be much greater than the

789
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59 centimeters predicted by the
last IPCC report, global warming

790
00:44:12,359 --> 00:44:16,019
could kill off 85% of the Amazon
rainforest much more than

791
00:44:16,019 --> 00:44:19,439
previously predicted, the ice
caps in Greenland and Antarctica

792
00:44:19,439 --> 00:44:22,649
are melting much faster than
predicted, the number of people

793
00:44:22,649 --> 00:44:27,419
dying from heat could be twice
as many as predicted. This is

794
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out of control. So

795
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:31,169
John C Dvorak: what they've
actually saying here as again,

796
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which I brought up in the last
show, is that they don't know

797
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,869
what they're talking about. No,
they they're all the predictions

798
00:44:36,869 --> 00:44:40,499
are wrong. Why aren't they wrong
again? I don't know what the

799
00:44:40,499 --> 00:44:41,909
hell they're doing. Read

800
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Adam Curry: this article from
The Telegraph. It's in the show

801
00:44:43,649 --> 00:44:46,619
notes. It will open up your
eyes. There was a there was a

802
00:44:47,459 --> 00:44:49,979
whole bunch of dignitaries were
in New York at a climate

803
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:55,049
conference, including the
current president of the EU, the

804
00:44:55,049 --> 00:44:59,039
crazy Czech guy who says global
warming is a hoax. And no one

805
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,529
reported on us No, no one not a

806
00:45:01,529 --> 00:45:04,649
John C Dvorak: single report.
This is why the newspapers are

807
00:45:04,649 --> 00:45:08,609
folding. Yeah, because I mean
because they suck. They why

808
00:45:08,609 --> 00:45:11,009
don't we get you know, I mean
you get sick everything is like

809
00:45:11,009 --> 00:45:13,169
directed. It's like there's
somebody orchestrating

810
00:45:13,169 --> 00:45:15,689
everything and the newspapers
are part of the orchestration.

811
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So we don't get a broad spectrum
of opinion. It's all targeted.

812
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You know, everything has got to
be this way. It's got to be that

813
00:45:22,589 --> 00:45:25,079
was all knee jerk. It's
unbelievable to me. And then

814
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:26,849
these guys have moaning and
groaning about losing their

815
00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:30,479
jobs. Yeah, well, how about how
about you just take it in and

816
00:45:30,479 --> 00:45:31,439
we're talking about something

817
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,530
Adam Curry: else I'm waiting for
and it is possibly could happen.

818
00:45:34,530 --> 00:45:37,590
I'm waiting for the first
bailout of a newspaper. You

819
00:45:37,590 --> 00:45:40,470
watch that's how crazy this
world has become. The government

820
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:42,990
will bail out even though that
would be unconstitutional.

821
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John C Dvorak: It's gonna have
would be unconstitutional. I'm

822
00:45:45,959 --> 00:45:48,479
sorry. Yeah, it has to be
unconstitutional.

823
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,270
Adam Curry: Yeah. Like like the
Constitution means anything

824
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:51,480
these

825
00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:53,310
John C Dvorak: they bail out the
Catholic Church.

826
00:45:59,699 --> 00:46:04,109
Adam Curry: Still no. No extra
reporting on Baxter

827
00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:05,039
International.

828
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,280
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. There
we go. There's another thing.

829
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,580
Where's these are these stories?
I think there was one story and

830
00:46:11,580 --> 00:46:15,300
MSNBC had. Yeah, somebody sent
us the link or you sent it to

831
00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:16,530
me? Yeah. The

832
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,540
Adam Curry: vaccine
International, which purposely

833
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:23,940
mixed up flu vaccination with
bird flu virus and they have now

834
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:26,310
admitted it was a live virus.

835
00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:31,080
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they had
mixed up the regular flu vaccine

836
00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:35,520
vaccine with a live bird flu
virus. And coincidentally, this

837
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,660
is the only company that has a
vaccine for bird flu. No, no,

838
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:41,490
Adam Curry: it's not the only
company. I've got

839
00:46:41,939 --> 00:46:43,919
John C Dvorak: one of the
companies that has a stockpile

840
00:46:43,919 --> 00:46:48,089
of bird flu deals in place
billions of dollars. First,

841
00:46:48,089 --> 00:46:50,249
you've got to infect the public.
Yeah, otherwise

842
00:46:50,250 --> 00:46:51,090
Adam Curry: you can't sell it.

843
00:46:52,619 --> 00:46:55,049
John C Dvorak: Because bird flu
doesn't seem to be catching on.

844
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,290
Adam Curry: No, it's the meme is
not traveling fast enough yet.

845
00:46:58,830 --> 00:47:01,830
Powered by science. We didn't
talk about this on the last

846
00:47:01,830 --> 00:47:06,900
show, although it was Oh current
at the moment. Lawmakers started

847
00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:10,890
earlier this week. That would be
you know, like people in

848
00:47:10,890 --> 00:47:13,200
Congress and people who you
supposedly elected and are

849
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,920
supposedly doing shit for you.
They're starting to have

850
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,640
hearings about the energy and
global warming bill that would

851
00:47:20,670 --> 00:47:24,300
of course revolutionize the way
we produce and use energy and

852
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:27,420
how we're taxed for it. And the
last time we had this type of

853
00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:35,220
bill was acid rain I guess was
the scam at the time. And some

854
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:37,860
actually the smog we got rid of
a lot of the smog which is why

855
00:47:37,860 --> 00:47:41,670
people are buying into this
crap. So the laws are coming and

856
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:45,330
that they will be taxable and
you'll be paying taxes on

857
00:47:45,450 --> 00:47:50,430
anything any use of carbon that
what a scam make the pig with

858
00:47:50,430 --> 00:47:53,940
genetically modified pigness and
then charge people for the pig

859
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:56,790
farts I mean, these guys got it
so locked down

860
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:01,440
John C Dvorak: whatever happened
to acid rain, acid

861
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,990
Adam Curry: rain, acid rain
wasn't it didn't you know it was

862
00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:08,400
a meme and it went away and

863
00:48:08,429 --> 00:48:10,679
John C Dvorak: I remember that
acid rain me because I remember

864
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,259
one of the 60 minutes shows
they're saying all the statues

865
00:48:13,259 --> 00:48:15,149
of Italy are all dissolving

866
00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:20,280
Adam Curry: was FoxNews around
them? I didn't know that.

867
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,120
John C Dvorak: Like 60 minutes
it was like some report of acid

868
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,330
rains dissolving all the statues
of Europe and you just imagining

869
00:48:27,330 --> 00:48:32,220
these things dissolving and then
they find some old statue that

870
00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:34,470
was all screwed up look and say
look what happened

871
00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:39,810
Adam Curry: yeah, oh, you had
the great ice age that was

872
00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:44,610
coming we had all of that. Oh
and

873
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,580
John C Dvorak: coincidental
thing that's good because that's

874
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:51,690
interesting to me. That the that
is the climatologist which is a

875
00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:57,270
fairly new discipline once they
got hold of this global warming

876
00:48:57,270 --> 00:49:00,750
thing they started getting money
they weren't they had just have

877
00:49:00,750 --> 00:49:03,480
in their grasp there's not gonna
let this baby go like

878
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,730
Adam Curry: hundreds of millions
if not billions of dollars in

879
00:49:05,730 --> 00:49:08,700
research research grants and all
kinds of dough of course yeah,

880
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:12,600
no warming No, you should be on
that shit. Absolutely no,

881
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:13,950
John C Dvorak: I don't
understand why we're not we

882
00:49:13,950 --> 00:49:17,400
should time promoters of this
crap just to get as much money

883
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:17,940
as we can

884
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:27,150
Adam Curry: we're doing it so
wrong. We should be like Jackie

885
00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:31,920
Chan do like Jackie does man.
Like sign out of the sell out

886
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,840
man just sell the heck out.

887
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:39,420
John C Dvorak: Darn. So we can't
live with ourselves ladies and

888
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:41,010
gentlemen. That's why we don't
do it.

889
00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:45,240
Adam Curry: There's a great
story on AP, which of course,

890
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:49,320
we'll get it said the guy has a
book coming out next week. He's

891
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,980
the former Food and Drug
Administration chief and command

892
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:58,260
and I'm paraphrasing this
article now. But here's here's a

893
00:49:58,260 --> 00:50:01,560
direct quote from him I guess in
the book The food industry has

894
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,070
worked out what works. They know
what drives people to keep on

895
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:09,780
eating. In the next great public
health campaign of changing how

896
00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:12,420
we view food and the food
industry, it has to be a part of

897
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:17,010
it. Basically, what he's saying
in this book, is how the food

898
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,780
industry has figured out through
neuroscience, that the

899
00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:28,500
combination of fat and sugar
sparks up dopamine in your in

900
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,070
your old noggin there. That's
your your little pleasure spot.

901
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:36,390
They're the same that gets hit
by alcohol and other fine, fine

902
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:41,190
products available in the wild.
And that essentially what this

903
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:45,180
former FDA chief is saying is
you're hooked on crap and we

904
00:50:45,180 --> 00:50:45,690
know it.

905
00:50:45,929 --> 00:50:50,609
Unknown: That's science. And
science is one cold hearted

906
00:50:50,609 --> 00:50:52,439
bitch with a 14 inch strap on.

907
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,460
John C Dvorak: Here we go hydro
power disaster for global

908
00:50:56,460 --> 00:51:00,870
warming. large dams have
dramatic consequences.

909
00:51:00,930 --> 00:51:03,390
Ecosystems are destroyed and
numerous people are made

910
00:51:03,390 --> 00:51:07,350
homeless, often without adequate
resettlement. But it is yet

911
00:51:07,350 --> 00:51:11,910
little known that large scale
hydro electricity is a major

912
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:16,140
contributor to global global
warming. Reservoirs could

913
00:51:16,140 --> 00:51:19,620
despite their clean image be
even more devastating for our

914
00:51:19,620 --> 00:51:24,660
climate and fossil fuel plants.
A few years ago, I spent on

915
00:51:24,660 --> 00:51:29,070
Monday it goes on and on. And
now I'm thinking two things one

916
00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:33,630
is this guy serious? Or and by
the way, let me go to two graphs

917
00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:37,410
or three graphs. This is mega
mega hydro has an astrologers

918
00:51:37,410 --> 00:51:41,700
record the World Commission on
dams, WC D, consisting of

919
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:46,200
experts, opposition and industry
was installed to produce an

920
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,440
independent review of large
dams, the WC D estimates in

921
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,890
2000, that 40 to 80 million
people have been displaced

922
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:57,960
worldwide. 80 million. Anyway,
the seems likely, I mean, just

923
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,320
the number doesn't sound right.
Maybe in China, whatever the

924
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,550
case is, this could have been,
you know, this could be a piece

925
00:52:05,550 --> 00:52:09,000
of propaganda put out by the oil
industry, obviously to you know,

926
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:13,470
keep people on the right track
that using fossil fuel. But I

927
00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:16,830
don't think so I think this is
actually just some typical

928
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:21,270
reactionary. In the sense of
let's you know, we can't do

929
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:24,360
anything well, let's just cut
you know, cover ourselves and

930
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:26,520
put us up in the cave somewhere
and,

931
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:30,120
Adam Curry: and write it out. If
it's not the hydro electric

932
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,140
power, it's bovine flatulence,
flatulence.

933
00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:35,580
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's the
cloud. So let's see the thing

934
00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:39,450
that I think to me that this all
this whole global warming thing

935
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:45,330
always boils down to is
veganism. It it's, it's at some

936
00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:48,360
point, you don't care what
nutball you're watching, if

937
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,880
you're watching the Green
Planet, they have it hauled net

938
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,680
channel now on the Dish Network
and elsewhere called green. And

939
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,730
it's just a bunch of horrible
shows that are self serving SF

940
00:52:59,730 --> 00:53:01,710
emeralds is actually pretty
good, because he's still just

941
00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:06,570
cooking. You know, emerald
green, get it? And then they

942
00:53:06,570 --> 00:53:10,020
have a guy who does I got a disk
for you, I'll send you with a

943
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:12,900
couple of these shows on it just
like just like all the other

944
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:15,780
ones you sent me here. But the
point at some point always

945
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:20,580
becomes vegetarianism. I mean,
there's always related there's

946
00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:23,160
always a vegetarian angle and
they always did it gets kind of

947
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,270
to veganism. And let's get rid
of the herds of cattle and let's

948
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:33,360
just eat you know, oats that's
kind of always that element.

949
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,630
I've never seen anybody that
that doesn't have that element

950
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:40,260
was the dragon shock there
behind the whole thing PETA, the

951
00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:43,170
vegans and you know the
crackpots you know foods the

952
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:43,440
whole

953
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:46,590
Adam Curry: I gotta tell you I
don't I don't talk bad about

954
00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:52,980
PETA at all because those people
frightened me to death those are

955
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:55,110
the ones that want the one
they're actually killing you

956
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:59,430
know, I'm very afraid of a
really radical act and look, I

957
00:53:59,430 --> 00:54:02,610
love animals but there are some
very very radical elements out

958
00:54:02,610 --> 00:54:07,290
there in the animal activism
activism space, and and they do

959
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,550
they kill people.

960
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:13,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the watches
people are meaningless crap.

961
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,730
Every day, it's all

962
00:54:14,730 --> 00:54:18,120
Adam Curry: about the animals.
So along the lines of global

963
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,080
warming, you want to hear some
earth shattering news. What

964
00:54:24,270 --> 00:54:28,710
scientists from the United
Nations, IPCC have now

965
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:31,110
determined that the earth will
be cooling for the next three

966
00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:34,050
decades studies the same people
that brought you global warming,

967
00:54:34,170 --> 00:54:37,980
now known as climate change,
quote, addressing the Washington

968
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:41,130
policy policymakers in Seattle,
Washington, Dr. Don Easterbrook

969
00:54:41,130 --> 00:54:46,260
said the shifting of the Pacific
Decadal Oscillation. That's PDO

970
00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:50,550
for short, from its warm mode to
its cool mode, virtually assures

971
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:54,510
global cooling for the next 25
to 30 years, and means the

972
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:57,810
global warming of the past 30
years is over the announcement

973
00:54:57,810 --> 00:55:02,220
by Yes, the announcement by NASA
Sir, that the PDO that's the

974
00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:06,150
Pacific Decadal Oscillation has
shifted from its warm mode to

975
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:09,360
its cool mode is right on
schedule as predicted by past

976
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,140
climate and PDO changes and in
the sun references, and is not

977
00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:16,350
an oddity superimposed upon
unmasking the predicted severe

978
00:55:16,350 --> 00:55:19,800
warming by the IPCC. This has
significant implications for the

979
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,340
future, and indicates that the
IPCC climate models were wrong

980
00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:26,250
in their prediction of global
temperatures soaring one degree

981
00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:28,890
Fahrenheit per decade for the
rest of the century. But it

982
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,720
doesn't matter. No one else to
hear about it, John, it doesn't

983
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:34,710
matter. Well, I'm

984
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:35,340
John C Dvorak: blogging it.

985
00:55:36,810 --> 00:55:39,930
Adam Curry: That's what I mean.
No one else will hear about Bada

986
00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:43,740
John C Dvorak: bing. So the
link, it's kidding me. Oh, of

987
00:55:43,740 --> 00:55:48,330
course. When did that come out?
These guys are just

988
00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:49,080
unbelievable.

989
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,820
Adam Curry: 11 December 7,
actually, is when this came out

990
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:55,680
John C Dvorak: came out December
7, and that we haven't and it

991
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,570
hasn't been, I

992
00:55:57,569 --> 00:56:01,439
Adam Curry: didn't catch it
until that's an arrest. But this

993
00:56:01,439 --> 00:56:05,279
is this whole shifting of the
poles and the solar winds and

994
00:56:05,279 --> 00:56:11,009
the diminishing of the magnetism
of the poles. All of this goes

995
00:56:11,009 --> 00:56:18,629
back to 2002. So this is before
Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth at

996
00:56:18,629 --> 00:56:22,409
NASA and, and other scientists
were saying, Oh, this will

997
00:56:22,709 --> 00:56:27,059
change the climate. It could
make it warmer or cooler. But

998
00:56:27,059 --> 00:56:30,119
they were literally saying it's
that that is the cause not

999
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:34,739
manmade, it's all over the news.
Now. It's mainstream

1000
00:56:34,739 --> 00:56:38,189
publications just now. It's no
one's doing anything with it.

1001
00:56:38,279 --> 00:56:42,029
Yeah, maybe but we're still all
gonna die if we don't stop our

1002
00:56:42,029 --> 00:56:46,139
cows from farting and stop
generating power from the ocean

1003
00:56:46,199 --> 00:56:47,609
stop eating meat here

1004
00:56:48,330 --> 00:56:50,520
John C Dvorak: was basically
where it boils down to stop

1005
00:56:50,550 --> 00:56:54,210
eating meat. Because there are
animals I mean, this is people

1006
00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:58,530
of course with anthropomorphize
the, you know, the all animals

1007
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,260
from my wife has it there is
because they watched too many

1008
00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:04,350
Disney cartoons. With all these
talking animals.

1009
00:57:06,030 --> 00:57:08,910
Unknown: Usually sounding a lot
like Eddie Murphy. In the face

1010
00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:11,970
of overwhelming odds I'm left
with only one option. I'm going

1011
00:57:11,970 --> 00:57:14,010
to have to science the shit out
of this

1012
00:57:16,110 --> 00:57:18,660
Adam Curry: you have something
called fat people clip

1013
00:57:19,409 --> 00:57:21,629
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, well,
this is what we can save this

1014
00:57:21,629 --> 00:57:23,999
for another real new segment or
we can do this one out. This is

1015
00:57:23,999 --> 00:57:29,219
what this is interesting. This
kind of changes the direction of

1016
00:57:29,219 --> 00:57:32,699
the shoulder a bit. But this is
a news report that came out like

1017
00:57:32,699 --> 00:57:36,179
a week ago. Now it and you know
everything has to have a global

1018
00:57:36,179 --> 00:57:40,199
warming angle. So now that this
is an actual news report that

1019
00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:45,449
was done on I think it was k I
think was either key. I think it

1020
00:57:45,449 --> 00:57:49,799
was the the KPI name is KPI x
and in San Francisco, and

1021
00:57:49,979 --> 00:57:51,059
they're blaming

1022
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:54,929
Adam Curry: sorry, then I'm
sorry, I just started the clip.

1023
00:57:55,229 --> 00:57:56,369
Premature at all. Okay,

1024
00:57:56,429 --> 00:58:00,029
John C Dvorak: play the clip.
Kip doe on why researchers say

1025
00:58:00,029 --> 00:58:02,699
obesity is bad for the
environment.

1026
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:07,260
Unknown: Obesity and global
warming both heavy topics now

1027
00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:10,470
linked by a new study from the
London School of Hygiene and

1028
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:13,680
Tropical Medicine. It says
people who weigh more tend to

1029
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,090
drive more and eat and all that
food. It's shipped on average

1030
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,200
1500 miles from where it's grown
to your plate that people

1031
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,890
researchers contend are killing
the planet than those who are

1032
00:58:25,890 --> 00:58:27,120
fit alright finally

1033
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,400
Adam Curry: something I can
stand behind now you're talking

1034
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,030
kill the fat people this is good
now that we're really in doesn't

1035
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:33,360
doesn't

1036
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,240
John C Dvorak: and the funny
thing about this reported which

1037
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,490
went a lot longer, by the way, I
didn't want to play the whole

1038
00:58:38,490 --> 00:58:41,760
thing by there was a bunch of
puns and droughts around because

1039
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,670
the reporter couldn't take it
too seriously. And then

1040
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,330
throughout the report, all they
showed was the fattest people

1041
00:58:48,330 --> 00:58:51,840
imaginable. The TV guys love to
show this. And you know, you

1042
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,630
never see their heads. It's just
either a shot of their big

1043
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:57,900
they're badass. Yeah, or their
big gut that's hanging over

1044
00:58:57,900 --> 00:58:59,940
bouncing off their knees. But
what people

1045
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:03,210
Adam Curry: got to realize that
this is exactly where we're

1046
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:07,080
headed. And yeah, we'd laugh
about it now. But it's no joking

1047
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,340
matter because they literally
the they're already doing it in

1048
00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:15,960
the United Kingdom with the with
parents, you know, they can take

1049
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,900
your kids away from you if
they're obese or if they're

1050
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:22,080
deemed obese. And they're going
to do it under all of these all

1051
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,330
of these new rules and
regulations. You know, Hey, man,

1052
00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:27,420
you're too fat, you're killing
the planet. You're You're anti

1053
00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:31,110
socialist, anti social behavior.
We got to cite you for that. And

1054
00:59:31,110 --> 00:59:34,020
by the way, look at this lovely
camp. We have all set up once

1055
00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:36,060
you come over here, and we'll
train that all off.

1056
00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:39,090
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So what
else you got on your list? I'm

1057
00:59:39,090 --> 00:59:39,450
looking

1058
00:59:39,449 --> 00:59:43,019
Adam Curry: for the audio, or
preferably video. So I'm not

1059
00:59:43,019 --> 00:59:45,509
going to read this whole thing
because I have the transcript.

1060
00:59:46,019 --> 00:59:50,399
But I'll do it on our next show.
Maybe someone can help me find

1061
00:59:50,399 --> 00:59:55,439
the find the actual source
material of Al Gore lying to

1062
00:59:55,439 --> 01:00:02,429
Congress. Representative
Blackburn was questioning Al

1063
01:00:02,429 --> 01:00:07,649
Gore at the Global Warming
legislation hearings, which you

1064
01:00:07,649 --> 01:00:10,679
know, we talked about this. So
now watch out because here it

1065
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,549
comes here come all the taxes on
on everything that emits carbon

1066
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:18,929
including the actual words
coming out of your cakehole. And

1067
01:00:18,959 --> 01:00:24,269
and he talks I guess it's a he
right Blackburn. Thanks. Thanks.

1068
01:00:24,269 --> 01:00:29,459
So he, he talks Gore completely
into a corner basically making

1069
01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:36,659
him say or admit that he is
profiting from from all of his

1070
01:00:36,659 --> 01:00:41,369
green initiatives. And a it's
just reading the transcript.

1071
01:00:41,369 --> 01:00:46,589
It's it's beautiful. But what
happens is, so here it is. I'll

1072
01:00:46,589 --> 01:00:50,429
just read this. So you're a
partner at a venture capital

1073
01:00:50,429 --> 01:00:54,059
firm. They've invested
$1,000,000,000.40 companies that

1074
01:00:54,059 --> 01:00:57,899
are going to benefit from cap
and trade legislation. Remember

1075
01:00:57,899 --> 01:01:01,139
that? So is the legislation that
we're discussing here today, is

1076
01:01:01,139 --> 01:01:03,269
that something you are
personally going to benefit

1077
01:01:03,269 --> 01:01:08,399
from? And then the transcript
goes, Al Gore sigh. I believe

1078
01:01:08,399 --> 01:01:11,339
that the transition to a green
economy is good for our economy

1079
01:01:11,339 --> 01:01:13,259
and good for all of us. And I've
invested in

1080
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,180
John C Dvorak: having to listen
your voice to make that really

1081
01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:17,580
work. And I can just see him
saying just like, well,

1082
01:01:17,580 --> 01:01:20,040
Adam Curry: I know that that's
what that's exactly why I want

1083
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,820
to have the real source material
that I have invested in it.

1084
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,240
John C Dvorak: But every penny
that I can't do not even know,

1085
01:01:27,659 --> 01:01:30,719
Adam Curry: everybody that I've
made, I've put into a nonprofit,

1086
01:01:31,139 --> 01:01:34,289
the Alliance for Climate
Protection to spread awareness

1087
01:01:34,289 --> 01:01:37,439
of why we have to take on this
challenge. And and Congresswoman

1088
01:01:37,439 --> 01:01:41,399
de gauche, Congresswoman, if
you're if you believe the reason

1089
01:01:41,399 --> 01:01:44,189
that I have been working on this
issue for 30 years is because of

1090
01:01:44,189 --> 01:01:48,359
greed. You don't know me? And
then Blackburn comes back says

1091
01:01:48,359 --> 01:01:50,369
No, sir. I'm not making
accusations. I'm asking

1092
01:01:50,369 --> 01:01:52,559
questions that have been asked
of me and individuals

1093
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,379
constituents, that we're seeking
a point of clarity. So I'm

1094
01:01:55,379 --> 01:01:59,009
asking, and then out and then so
here it comes. Every penny that

1095
01:01:59,009 --> 01:02:02,489
I've made has gone to it my
nonprofit, every penny from the

1096
01:02:02,489 --> 01:02:05,879
movie, the book, from any
investments from renewable

1097
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energy, I've been willing to put
my money where my mouth is, do

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you think there's something
wrong with being active in

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business in this country? So
immediately throws the, you

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know, is is doing business bad.
So he's he's outright lying,

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01:02:20,579 --> 01:02:24,329
that it's all in nonprofit,
because it's not. He's making

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01:02:24,359 --> 01:02:28,439
tons of dough off of this. And
he left the White House with $2

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01:02:28,439 --> 01:02:33,239
million reportedly in his
pocket. And now he so far has

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01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:39,269
invested $35 million of his own
money in for profit endeavors.

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01:02:39,689 --> 01:02:42,539
And he's sitting there saying to
Congress, no, no, no, no, no,

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01:02:42,539 --> 01:02:45,839
this is all nonprofit.
Unbelievable.

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01:02:47,130 --> 01:02:49,080
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
everyone who listens to the show

1108
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:53,850
know that we're no fans of Al
Gore using Science News and BBC

1109
01:02:53,850 --> 01:02:59,850
this week. They had a complete
documentary on power shift. Oh,

1110
01:02:59,850 --> 01:03:05,250
nine. Oh, nice. Now, power
shift.org People can go out

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01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:10,080
there and check it out. It's a
green activists. And

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,920
essentially, the government has
taken over this this particular

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01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,580
conference and they loaded it up
with Obama people to keynoter

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01:03:17,580 --> 01:03:22,230
was the EPA woman, Paul Podesta,
that one of the staffers that

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01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:26,280
one of the major staffers, you
know, second in command of one

1116
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,730
of these other guys was the guy
looked like the organizer from

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01:03:29,730 --> 01:03:33,120
the way they had this thing.
structured the way they did the,

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01:03:33,420 --> 01:03:38,700
the, the show this documentary,
Bill Clinton was there,

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01:03:38,940 --> 01:03:41,970
everybody was loaded up there
was loaded up with these guys.

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And here's what I'm sure I'm
watching this thing thinking,

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01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,070
wow, this is just another and
they got all these kids. It's a

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01:03:47,070 --> 01:03:50,820
bunch of young people. And they
get them all pumped up with you

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01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:53,790
know, this green, green, green,
green green stuff and you know,

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01:03:53,790 --> 01:03:57,930
global warming. And so then they
jumped to showing some of the

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01:03:57,930 --> 01:04:00,180
behind the scenes seminars, you
know, they always have the

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01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:04,200
breakouts go, of course. So the
breakouts are training to kids

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:11,940
on civil disobedience, resisting
arrest, how to do sit in spot

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01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:16,050
properly, how to lock arms for
how to do passive resistance.

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01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:18,750
Wait a minute, let me get this
straight. And I would have been

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01:04:18,750 --> 01:04:21,540
anybody who happens to be one of
those people. I like to ask a

1131
01:04:21,540 --> 01:04:27,990
question, since when do does the
government train the youth to do

1132
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:31,320
these sorts of things? The first
thing I saw it, I thought it was

1133
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,050
either Nazi youth or the the
young come

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01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:36,960
Adam Curry: away from it. And
this was this was American youth

1135
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,830
or British youth.

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01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:41,610
John C Dvorak: That the first
thing I thought it was either

1137
01:04:41,610 --> 01:04:44,250
Nazi youth or the Young
Communist Party, this is

1138
01:04:44,250 --> 01:04:46,680
training the youth. Well, when
is the

1139
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,990
Adam Curry: government really
why was this British youth are

1140
01:04:48,990 --> 01:04:51,090
American youth. I'm confused
American youth.

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01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,790
John C Dvorak: This was all
Americans. This This show is you

1142
01:04:53,790 --> 01:04:56,520
know, it's a British show. But
the this was in the United

1143
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,120
States this meeting, and it was
our government training kids You

1144
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,210
did, how to do sit ins how to
lock arms, how to resist arrest,

1145
01:05:03,210 --> 01:05:03,330
but

1146
01:05:03,330 --> 01:05:06,960
Adam Curry: again, there's
resisting against you go.

1147
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:08,040
Apparently

1148
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,870
John C Dvorak: not a good thing
because you're resisting against

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01:05:09,870 --> 01:05:13,170
big business who doesn't do what
they're supposed to do? Oh my

1150
01:05:13,170 --> 01:05:17,940
God, that's the only thing I
see. Yeah, but stunning. I was

1151
01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:18,390
shocked.

1152
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:21,510
Adam Curry: I saw Rahm Emanuel,
who was interviewed on CNBC and

1153
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:23,010
I didn't see the whole
interview. I just saw a

1154
01:05:23,010 --> 01:05:26,550
soundbite, but one of his
answers was literally, you know,

1155
01:05:26,550 --> 01:05:29,820
we're in a fantastic place right
now, where there's an

1156
01:05:29,820 --> 01:05:33,240
opportunity to figure out what
the relationship really should

1157
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,630
be between big business and
government. I'm like, Oh, my

1158
01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:40,770
God, the guys just out and out
saying it. They want to have

1159
01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:43,770
control, there's got to be some
kind of takeover or some kind of

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01:05:43,860 --> 01:05:45,210
relationship.

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01:05:46,409 --> 01:05:48,269
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and if they
don't intervene, and if you

1162
01:05:48,269 --> 01:05:50,879
don't knuckle under, then
they're gonna do kids are going

1163
01:05:50,879 --> 01:05:55,259
to be sent over there to protest
sit in, you know, harass you

1164
01:05:55,259 --> 01:05:58,649
essentially, this is harassment.
I mean, they're training the

1165
01:05:58,649 --> 01:06:02,189
kids to be harassers to because,
you know, just people who are

1166
01:06:02,189 --> 01:06:05,189
new who haven't signed on to
100% of the green initiative.

1167
01:06:05,369 --> 01:06:07,679
And of course, the whole thing
boiled down once again, because

1168
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:10,019
of the keynoter and everybody
else brought it up, cap and

1169
01:06:10,019 --> 01:06:13,289
trade cap and trade carbon
credits, carbon credits cap and

1170
01:06:13,289 --> 01:06:13,769
trade.

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01:06:13,830 --> 01:06:16,560
Adam Curry: John Broder wrote
his article seeking to save the

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:21,930
planet with with a thesaurus.
And I just read the first couple

1173
01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:24,210
of paragraphs the problem with
global warming some

1174
01:06:24,210 --> 01:06:28,740
environmentalist believes is,
quote, global warming. The term

1175
01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:31,410
turns people off. Now we've
talked about this because

1176
01:06:31,410 --> 01:06:33,960
remember, it went from global
warming to climate change.

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01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,290
Listen to what's next. The term
turns people off fostering

1178
01:06:37,290 --> 01:06:41,940
images of shaggy haired liberals
economic sacrifice and complex

1179
01:06:41,940 --> 01:06:45,930
scientific disputes. According
to extensive polling and focus

1180
01:06:45,930 --> 01:06:49,860
group sessions conducted by eco
America, a nonprofit

1181
01:06:49,860 --> 01:06:53,340
environmental marketing and
messaging firm in Washington.

1182
01:06:53,370 --> 01:06:57,150
This this is how the ships being
sold to you. Oh yeah, instead of

1183
01:06:57,150 --> 01:07:01,050
grim warnings about global
warming the firm advises to talk

1184
01:07:01,050 --> 01:07:06,060
about our deteriorating
atmosphere, dropped discussions

1185
01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:10,200
of carbon dioxide and bring up
moving away from the dirty fuels

1186
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:15,150
of the past. Don't confuse
people with Cap and Trade use

1187
01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:21,750
terms like cap and cashback or
pollution reduction refund. I

1188
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:24,960
got a hard on John, this is good
stuff.

1189
01:07:25,230 --> 01:07:26,850
John C Dvorak: This is good
stuff Pollution

1190
01:07:26,850 --> 01:07:30,090
Adam Curry: Reduction refund
this this is what happened at

1191
01:07:30,090 --> 01:07:33,900
the supermarket where you're
used to getting cash back you

1192
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:37,890
will be capping cashing back and
on your receipt you will be

1193
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:42,480
congratulated for money you gave
to the pollution reduction

1194
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,410
refund

1195
01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:48,420
Unknown: something right.

1196
01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:51,180
Adam Curry: When you buy your
when you buy your Monsanto

1197
01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:54,570
products and your semi linked to
this, this is good stuff. Well

1198
01:07:54,570 --> 01:07:57,180
if you look at the show notes,
but this is what's going

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01:07:57,180 --> 01:07:59,040
John C Dvorak: on and this kind
of thing. And it's because you

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,280
know, you know people when you
give your donation to

1201
01:08:02,310 --> 01:08:05,790
divert.org/and Uh, you have to
realize that both Adam and I are

1202
01:08:05,790 --> 01:08:10,440
actually involved in the media
in such a way that we know how

1203
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:12,960
this some of these mechanisms
work because we work with public

1204
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,800
relations companies all the time
and and they and the kind of

1205
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,700
skills they have and how they do
you know grassroots things that

1206
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:21,090
are how they

1207
01:08:21,090 --> 01:08:22,290
Adam Curry: do it. I'm

1208
01:08:22,290 --> 01:08:25,650
Unknown: gonna show my school by
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

1209
01:08:25,650 --> 01:08:28,170
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

1210
01:08:36,150 --> 01:08:39,330
John C Dvorak: Yeah, wow. Cap
and Trade crap and trade is that

1211
01:08:39,330 --> 01:08:42,660
when they said long, crushed a
lot back in the day.

1212
01:08:42,690 --> 01:08:45,540
Adam Curry: I know. I really
did. I really did. Have you

1213
01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:47,490
noticed how clean I am these
days?

1214
01:08:48,450 --> 01:08:50,490
John C Dvorak: Yes, you're much
cleaner right? But also the

1215
01:08:50,490 --> 01:08:54,360
sound varies so much because
we're using Skype and we're from

1216
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,850
different locations and and

1217
01:08:56,850 --> 01:08:59,010
Adam Curry: for some reason, I
had a whole period there where I

1218
01:08:59,010 --> 01:09:00,180
really liked eco.

1219
01:09:01,799 --> 01:09:05,129
John C Dvorak: Like, I don't
know what you're trying to get

1220
01:09:05,129 --> 01:09:06,539
to Mexican station.

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01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:09,240
Adam Curry: I have no idea what
I was thinking like, oh, reverb,

1222
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,480
that sounds really good. You
know, and, and sometimes you'd

1223
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:16,890
have a really big booming voice
I remember specifically, where I

1224
01:09:16,890 --> 01:09:19,830
had the curry condo in San
Francisco, we'd both be on

1225
01:09:19,830 --> 01:09:24,120
Comcast. And we would have to
reconnect eight times an episode

1226
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,510
actually one of the clips I
don't remember which one I had

1227
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:31,260
to cut out or reconnect because
I keep saying, are you there?

1228
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,320
Are you there? Are you there?
Are you there there and then

1229
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,430
Skype would go all like low
grade, as we say,

1230
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,090
John C Dvorak: and do this. The
squishing thing to is always

1231
01:09:42,090 --> 01:09:42,840
taking place.

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01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:45,420
Adam Curry: And we always said
it's amazing. any of this stuff

1233
01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:49,440
works. And it's amazing that it
still works at all, honestly.

1234
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:50,220
But

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01:09:50,220 --> 01:09:53,070
John C Dvorak: we do want to
mention that this is not we

1236
01:09:53,070 --> 01:09:56,250
still need donations and we hope
that people go to no agenda

1237
01:09:57,420 --> 01:10:02,010
show.net and click on the
donation thing or go to no

1238
01:10:02,010 --> 01:10:08,190
agenda donations.com and click
there or the word.org/and. A and

1239
01:10:08,190 --> 01:10:12,360
look at the old stuff. Anything
that helps if you especially if

1240
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,000
you liked this show, we'd like
to see here's some donations and

1241
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,600
hear from you.

1242
01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:18,330
Adam Curry: Yes. And we want to
thank Taunton, Neil, for the

1243
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,810
artwork and thanks, sir de
nonnamous for the for being

1244
01:10:21,810 --> 01:10:26,190
it.io. And we will be mentioning
all of the donors on the next

1245
01:10:26,190 --> 01:10:31,740
show, which will be 1664, which
will be a regular episode back.

1246
01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:34,350
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. With a
long donation segment, we hope.

1247
01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:35,760
Please,

1248
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,430
Adam Curry: everybody, we hoped.
Thank you all very much. No

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01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:42,180
agenda donations.com. And we're
going to head back into it. And

1250
01:10:42,180 --> 01:10:44,400
we'll be back at the end of the
show. Stay tuned, here comes

1251
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:49,140
more climate change bullcrap. So
if I look at the Grand overview

1252
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:51,510
of everything that's going on,
and all the horseshit that we're

1253
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:54,600
following when it comes to
climate change here, here's kind

1254
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,870
of what I'm thinking. Here's the
the theory that I'm working on,

1255
01:10:57,870 --> 01:11:03,780
call it a conspiracy theory, if
you must. So clearly, clearly,

1256
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,530
there is knowledge that in the
next few years, and probably

1257
01:11:07,530 --> 01:11:11,250
it'll coincide with 2012 Go
ahead and say it Oh, brother.

1258
01:11:12,750 --> 01:11:16,350
Oh, brother, clearly there is
knowledge that there are big

1259
01:11:16,350 --> 01:11:20,100
changes afoot and and it makes
sense there are changes the

1260
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:25,680
magnetic poles are reversing,
we've got all kinds of massive

1261
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,070
magnetic and solar activity, you
know, the Earth is changing the

1262
01:11:29,070 --> 01:11:33,960
Earth changes all the time. It's
evolved throughout its its

1263
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:39,060
history, only 6000 years, as you
know, and I believe that there

1264
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:42,090
is actual knowledge that lots of
crap is going to happen and that

1265
01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:46,200
there will be weird. I'm not
talking I'm not calling for

1266
01:11:46,230 --> 01:11:50,040
destruction and devastation.
We're all gonna die. But yeah,

1267
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:53,340
we could see flooding in weird
places, we could totally see

1268
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,120
shit coming down. And I think
that that's why all of this all

1269
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,600
these stories are being
launched. And that's why Al Gore

1270
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,750
can say with such certainty that
they know the science is clear.

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And

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John C Dvorak: well, while
you're at it, play the clip I

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01:12:08,190 --> 01:12:08,910
gave you No.

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01:12:08,940 --> 01:12:10,680
Adam Curry: Okay. Hold on a
second.

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01:12:11,010 --> 01:12:13,830
John C Dvorak: This is a one day
hard on Larry King.

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01:12:13,860 --> 01:12:16,140
Adam Curry: She's Is she from
the from the view, Joy Bay.

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01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:16,440
She's

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01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:18,900
John C Dvorak: the comedian.
She's a comedian that that is

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one of the women on the view.

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01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:23,760
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, here we
go. She's on Larry King. And

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she's gonna be

1282
01:12:25,230 --> 01:12:27,450
John C Dvorak: bitching about,
oh, sorry, go ahead. She's gonna

1283
01:12:27,450 --> 01:12:29,040
be bitching about Rush Limbaugh.

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01:12:30,330 --> 01:12:32,790
Adam Curry: And this, and this
pertains to 2012. Somehow,

1285
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:34,680
John C Dvorak: just Plitt There
you go.

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,410
Unknown: There's no problem. I
mean, this guy, Rush Limbaugh, I

1287
01:12:37,410 --> 01:12:40,380
used to work with him years ago.
And I sort of been friendly with

1288
01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:45,090
him in a certain weird kind of
way. Did pills together. And he

1289
01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:47,880
constantly is talking about how
there was no global warming.

1290
01:12:48,150 --> 01:12:52,980
Every climatologist in the world
says there's global warming,

1291
01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:56,820
every scientist has said there
is a problem. We're all on this

1292
01:12:56,820 --> 01:12:58,950
earth together. And this guy
goes out and says that there's

1293
01:12:58,950 --> 01:13:01,920
no global warming, who is Hey,
what is he talking about? And

1294
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,500
who with these ditto heads that
agree with him? I'd like to

1295
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:07,290
know, aren't they breathing the
same air that we are? I don't

1296
01:13:07,290 --> 01:13:13,080
think he has a degree in
meteorology. Oh, I don't think a

1297
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:18,810
Adam Curry: bonehead meteorology
that has nothing to do with

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01:13:18,810 --> 01:13:19,410
climate.

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01:13:20,340 --> 01:13:23,970
John C Dvorak: So of course,
that that implies that either Al

1300
01:13:23,970 --> 01:13:26,820
Gore has a degree in
meteorology, I think as the

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01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:31,230
great joy has a degree. The
thing that gets me about this

1302
01:13:31,230 --> 01:13:35,430
stuff, which is every the word
used every now

1303
01:13:37,980 --> 01:13:39,450
Adam Curry: every single one.

1304
01:13:39,810 --> 01:13:41,790
John C Dvorak: This is what's
the problem is with this

1305
01:13:41,790 --> 01:13:45,210
argument and why it sets off a
bunch of alarms and red flags

1306
01:13:45,210 --> 01:13:48,630
with me when you start saying it
because this is like going to

1307
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:52,770
Israel and getting an agreement.
You know, with anybody, they're

1308
01:13:52,770 --> 01:13:56,280
just going to be debating
forever. And then scientists

1309
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,290
don't all agree on anything is
the

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01:13:58,710 --> 01:14:01,560
Adam Curry: definition of
science. Sorry. Isn't that

1311
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,410
almost a definition of science
that it's not truth is

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01:14:04,410 --> 01:14:05,700
debatable. Yeah.

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01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,350
John C Dvorak: So how does every
with no exception every

1314
01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:14,580
climatologist and every
scientist, this is bold? I mean,

1315
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:17,880
when you start hearing that you
know something's wrong. Dr.

1316
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,100
Adam Curry: Tyson, what do you
make of all this? My

1317
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:24,450
calculations show that
scientifically? We're screwed.

1318
01:14:24,990 --> 01:14:29,760
Geneva says within days they
might declare level six for the

1319
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:35,370
first time in their history. For
what for the for the the flu,

1320
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:36,810
swine flu? Why

1321
01:14:36,810 --> 01:14:39,120
John C Dvorak: don't they just
pack it in and say they were

1322
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:40,590
wrong? They can't

1323
01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:43,080
Adam Curry: apparently they just
can't admit it. And yes, like

1324
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,050
these guys, jobs depend on it.
Oh, crap. You know, we started.

1325
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:50,760
They started and now we have
global warming. So here so it's

1326
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:56,820
North America, Australia and
Chile. 21,940 cases 125 deaths.

1327
01:14:56,850 --> 01:15:01,380
Dude, that's less than normal
flu and That's the pandemic.

1328
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,010
That's it. They can't give up
because they've got to support

1329
01:15:05,010 --> 01:15:07,260
all these deals with the
pharmaceuticals for all of these

1330
01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:09,960
stupid inoculations for the
vaccination

1331
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,870
John C Dvorak: news I mentioned
this last week or last Thursday.

1332
01:15:13,410 --> 01:15:17,070
They want to do three shots a
year now so are you

1333
01:15:17,070 --> 01:15:19,650
Adam Curry: kidding me? No.
Article Three

1334
01:15:19,650 --> 01:15:21,930
John C Dvorak: shots at you.
They're gonna advocate three,

1335
01:15:22,170 --> 01:15:24,840
three flu shots. What do you
need three flu you only need one

1336
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,010
during the flu season? Well,

1337
01:15:26,010 --> 01:15:29,460
Adam Curry: the question is
advocate or mandate mandate.

1338
01:15:29,490 --> 01:15:30,750
That's the question they

1339
01:15:30,750 --> 01:15:33,180
John C Dvorak: would need in the
US they have a lot of trouble

1340
01:15:33,180 --> 01:15:35,970
getting a mandated flu shot
because there's just not as

1341
01:15:35,970 --> 01:15:37,890
that's just not gonna happen.
It's our Constitution,

1342
01:15:37,890 --> 01:15:40,770
especially after that that
fiasco with the swine flu

1343
01:15:40,770 --> 01:15:42,630
sometime, I think was back in
the 70s where they had the

1344
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:46,770
oldest swine flu is gonna 76
shots killed more people than

1345
01:15:46,770 --> 01:15:47,520
the flu did.

1346
01:15:47,550 --> 01:15:50,160
Adam Curry: Yeah. 76 I believe,
John. So

1347
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,370
John C Dvorak: I'm reading about
this guy, you know who the guy

1348
01:15:53,370 --> 01:15:57,360
who had the, you know, the name
of the asking this question in

1349
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,630
hopes that you don't because I
figured you know who? I think a

1350
01:16:00,630 --> 01:16:04,260
lot of us are skeptical about
things. Always forget some of

1351
01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:07,140
the prime movers. You know,
who's the guy that is the father

1352
01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:08,100
of global warming?

1353
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:13,560
Adam Curry: Oh, I think you sent
me this in the show notes. Go

1354
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,420
ahead. I'll pretend James

1355
01:16:15,420 --> 01:16:16,020
John C Dvorak: Hansen.

1356
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,300
Adam Curry: Is he a NASA guy was
that

1357
01:16:18,930 --> 01:16:22,650
John C Dvorak: NASA
climatologist who? You made some

1358
01:16:22,650 --> 01:16:27,360
testimony in 1988 in front of
Congress claiming manmade global

1359
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,430
warming was taking place and we
have to do something about it.

1360
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,990
And then Gore became his pal and
so did okay,

1361
01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:36,090
Adam Curry: that part I didn't
know he was actually the guy

1362
01:16:36,090 --> 01:16:41,430
that that inspired scam artist
Gore to come up with his

1363
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:43,110
PowerPoint. Is that how it
worked?

1364
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:46,860
John C Dvorak: Pretty much.
Yeah. He's the inspiration. So

1365
01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:49,950
anyway, so I'm just reading
through something. And then I

1366
01:16:49,950 --> 01:16:55,770
run into this old posting from
January which I don't know did I

1367
01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:59,490
miss it? Or was it to get no
press? I didn't even blog it

1368
01:16:59,490 --> 01:17:01,830
that I know. I don't think maybe
it maybe it's on the blog. I

1369
01:17:01,830 --> 01:17:06,450
have to I should go look. But
how his supervisor John Theon

1370
01:17:06,450 --> 01:17:09,090
sent out this note after I guess
he's retired or he's not the

1371
01:17:09,090 --> 01:17:11,670
supervisor. He doesn't work at
NASA anymore. And he says that

1372
01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:15,870
Hansen was an embarrassment to
NASA. He was never muzzled, and

1373
01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:24,570
he's this guy. Theon says it all
climate models are useless. And

1374
01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:26,580
let me just read a couple of
things from the from the note

1375
01:17:26,580 --> 01:17:30,030
that was sent out. retired
senior NASA atmospheric

1376
01:17:30,030 --> 01:17:34,110
scientist John Theon, the former
supervisor of James Hansen. NASA

1377
01:17:34,110 --> 01:17:38,220
is vocal, manmade global warming
fear soothsayer, has now

1378
01:17:38,220 --> 01:17:41,250
publicly declared himself a
skeptic and declared that Hansen

1379
01:17:41,310 --> 01:17:44,700
here's the reason I dug this up
is because Hansen just was in

1380
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:47,400
the news a couple of days ago
saying it's worse than I

1381
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:53,880
thought. Were due to high and
he's in he's targeted coal. So

1382
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:59,580
he was arrested with Daryl
Hannah up and in West Virginia,

1383
01:17:59,580 --> 01:18:04,860
it's picketing some cold. Daryl
Hannah, right. Yeah. And so he

1384
01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:07,710
was up there getting arrested
with Daryl Hannah. Anyway,

1385
01:18:07,710 --> 01:18:09,990
Adam Curry: the guy says, By the
way, if you gotta get arrested,

1386
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:11,700
it might as well be with her.
Yeah,

1387
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:14,400
John C Dvorak: get handcuffed to
her. And he declared that Hanson

1388
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,790
embarrassed NASA with his
alarming climate claims and said

1389
01:18:17,790 --> 01:18:21,870
Hansen was never muzzled Dion
joins the rapidly growing ranks.

1390
01:18:22,110 --> 01:18:24,570
phenom, but here's the one that
the interesting quote is here.

1391
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:30,270
First of all, he says he thinks
he likes to join the group that

1392
01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:35,550
sets the skeptic this guy. He
says NASA scientist James Hansen

1393
01:18:35,550 --> 01:18:38,400
to create a world wide media
frenzy with his dire climate

1394
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,890
warning is calls for trials
against those who dissent

1395
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,500
against manmade global warming.
He's one of the guys that thinks

1396
01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:46,110
anyone who says it like what I'm
saying now I should be arrested

1397
01:18:46,710 --> 01:18:51,210
and his claims. And his claims
that he was allegedly muzzled by

1398
01:18:51,210 --> 01:18:56,130
the Bush administration despite
doing 1400 on the job media

1399
01:18:56,130 --> 01:18:58,110
interviews, yes, science.

1400
01:18:58,890 --> 01:19:02,730
Adam Curry: The title of this is
gagged the internet. Apparently,

1401
01:19:02,730 --> 01:19:07,110
Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law
professor who was has been

1402
01:19:07,110 --> 01:19:11,970
appointed to a post within the
Obama administration that will

1403
01:19:11,970 --> 01:19:16,290
grant him powers, as the article
says that are merely mind

1404
01:19:16,290 --> 01:19:20,850
boggling. It explicitly supports
using the courts to impose a

1405
01:19:20,850 --> 01:19:25,830
chilling effect on speech that
might hurt someone's feelings.

1406
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:31,260
So this is how he's working on
stifling free speech on the

1407
01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:33,030
internet. Yeah,

1408
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:34,650
John C Dvorak: it's a good
effective switch. So it's a

1409
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,270
Adam Curry: it might work in
mind his he has a new book,

1410
01:19:39,330 --> 01:19:43,380
which is coming out advanced
copies, of course, were read by

1411
01:19:43,380 --> 01:19:46,440
the journalist who wrote this
article. His book is called on

1412
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:51,450
rumors, how falsehoods spread,
why we believe them, what can be

1413
01:19:51,450 --> 01:19:54,540
done. It's going out to
reviewers ahead of its September

1414
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:56,670
publication date, but
considering the prominence with

1415
01:19:56,670 --> 01:19:59,970
which Sunstein is about to be
endowed, and I'm gonna He's He's

1416
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,650
Actually his key has been chosen
by President Obama to head the

1417
01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:07,650
White House Office of
Information and Regulatory

1418
01:20:07,650 --> 01:20:11,550
Affairs, John, finally, the
Ministry of Truth is here. It's

1419
01:20:11,550 --> 01:20:16,380
about the White House Office of
Information and Regulatory

1420
01:20:16,410 --> 01:20:20,280
Affairs. This has been reported
in The Wall Street Journal. But

1421
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,190
of course, it's you haven't
really heard about this because

1422
01:20:23,190 --> 01:20:28,620
we're more concerned with
Michael Jackson's murder. And

1423
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,780
let me see if I can find, here
we go. He worries that sustain

1424
01:20:33,810 --> 01:20:36,750
that we're headed for a future
in which quote, people's beliefs

1425
01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:40,740
are a product of social networks
working as echo chambers, in

1426
01:20:40,740 --> 01:20:44,760
which false rumors spread like
wildfire. That future they're

1427
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,090
already here. According to
Sunstein, we hardly need to

1428
01:20:48,090 --> 01:20:51,450
imagine a world however, in
which people and institutions

1429
01:20:51,450 --> 01:20:55,140
are being harmed by the rapid
spread of damaging falsehoods

1430
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:59,430
via the internet. We live in
that world what might be done to

1431
01:20:59,430 --> 01:21:03,600
reduce the harm? Well, he
questions the libel standard

1432
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,600
basically, it comes down to a
notify and take that

1433
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,600
John C Dvorak: puts you in your
myself in the driver's seat when

1434
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,230
it comes to some of those early
lawsuits. Yeah, well, I was

1435
01:21:16,230 --> 01:21:20,820
always somebody saying something
nasty about it. Ryan, it hurts

1436
01:21:20,820 --> 01:21:21,960
my feelings. It hurts. My

1437
01:21:22,170 --> 01:21:25,110
Adam Curry: feelings are so
freakin hurt John, what he's

1438
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:32,460
going for is a libel. So a
system of notify and takedowns

1439
01:21:32,460 --> 01:21:37,170
will have takedown notices for
untruths on the intranet. So if

1440
01:21:37,170 --> 01:21:41,970
you write an untruth, notify and
take down he'll be

1441
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:44,250
John C Dvorak: able to get it
and this is going to be the

1442
01:21:44,250 --> 01:21:46,770
government dole because you're
going to have to hire millions

1443
01:21:46,770 --> 01:21:50,520
of people to do this. I want a
job. I

1444
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,190
Adam Curry: got to study some
law. I got to pass the bar. I

1445
01:21:53,190 --> 01:21:55,380
gotta get into some kind of law
program.

1446
01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:59,310
John C Dvorak: takedown notice
for and by the way, how does

1447
01:21:59,310 --> 01:22:00,960
that work with global warming?

1448
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:05,520
Adam Curry: Oh, well, Oh, geez.
Well, of course, you know, you

1449
01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:08,640
if you say the global warming
doesn't exist, you'll get a

1450
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:14,760
takedown notice. Yeah, you'll
get a total takedown notice. We

1451
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:20,430
were talking about what's her
name? The weird chick who was

1452
01:22:20,430 --> 01:22:23,880
testifying? We had a sound clip
of her last time.

1453
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:25,740
John C Dvorak: Janine Garoppolo.

1454
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:28,770
Adam Curry: She looks a bit like
Jimmy Garoppolo. But no, that's

1455
01:22:28,770 --> 01:22:35,850
not the one. The other one. The
Lisa Jackson, Lisa Jackson.

1456
01:22:35,850 --> 01:22:40,830
Yeah. So apparently two years
ago, the Supreme Court passed a

1457
01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:46,050
ruling that said that the EPA,
which she now heads, would be

1458
01:22:46,050 --> 01:22:54,540
allowed to create legislation to
stop greenhouse gases. And she

1459
01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:57,510
would, but there were several
other memos that basically said

1460
01:22:57,510 --> 01:23:01,740
there's no science to support
that greenhouse gases are

1461
01:23:01,740 --> 01:23:03,450
creating, you know, global
warming.

1462
01:23:03,690 --> 01:23:08,490
John C Dvorak: There's also a
proviso in within that, that

1463
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,630
that scenario, you described,
that she the head of the EPA, or

1464
01:23:12,630 --> 01:23:16,440
any head of the EPA, not just
her, a can, can defy, and they

1465
01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:20,550
talked about this in these
hearings, can define anything as

1466
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:25,740
a greenhouse gas if they want
to, you know, yes. So you could

1467
01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:26,310
be a greenhouse?

1468
01:23:27,690 --> 01:23:31,200
Adam Curry: Well, I think co2
pretty much covers most things,

1469
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,930
since that's the shit we're
exhaling when we breathe. So I

1470
01:23:33,930 --> 01:23:35,220
think there's gonna be a

1471
01:23:35,220 --> 01:23:36,630
John C Dvorak: tax on that
you're gonna have to hold your

1472
01:23:36,630 --> 01:23:39,900
breath. It's a law. It's fact
it's science. And there's an

1473
01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:42,120
article that people should try
to track down, I'll send you

1474
01:23:42,150 --> 01:23:44,850
make sure it'll be in the show
notes, which is the Telegraph's

1475
01:23:44,850 --> 01:23:49,470
article on July 11 2009, just
came out climate change the sun

1476
01:23:49,470 --> 01:23:53,430
and the oceans do not lie by
Christopher Booker. And he goes

1477
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:56,700
on and on and on it which would
have would have a crock that

1478
01:23:56,700 --> 01:24:00,420
this seems to be the especially
the cap and trade but he makes

1479
01:24:00,450 --> 01:24:06,090
let me just read this in a very
funny first paragraph. The moves

1480
01:24:06,090 --> 01:24:08,490
not being made by the world's
political establishment to lock

1481
01:24:08,490 --> 01:24:11,520
us into December's Copenhagen
treaty to halt global warming

1482
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,560
are as alarming as anything
that's happened in our

1483
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,410
lifetimes. And last week in
Italy, the various branches of

1484
01:24:16,410 --> 01:24:20,580
our emerging world government g8
And g 20. agreed in principle

1485
01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:23,640
that the world must by 2050 cut
its co2 emissions in half.

1486
01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:26,010
Britain in the US already
committed to cutting their

1487
01:24:26,010 --> 01:24:29,640
fossil fuels by more than 80%
short of an unimaginable

1488
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,370
technological revolution. This
could only be achieved by

1489
01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:36,360
closing down virtually all of
our economic activity, no

1490
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,720
electricity, no transport, no
industry. All of this is being

1491
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:44,130
egged on by a gigantic publicity
machine by the UN by serried

1492
01:24:44,130 --> 01:24:47,760
ranks of government funded
scientists by cheerleaders such

1493
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,660
as Al Gore, last week comparing
the fight against global warming

1494
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:53,670
to that against Hitler's Nazis.

1495
01:24:55,860 --> 01:24:57,660
Adam Curry: Go telegraph and by

1496
01:24:57,660 --> 01:25:00,000
John C Dvorak: politicians who
have no idea what they're saying

1497
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,450
Eating and train. This makes it
this even otter that the runaway

1498
01:25:03,450 --> 01:25:06,930
warming predicted by their
computer models simply isn't

1499
01:25:06,930 --> 01:25:10,380
happening. This, by the way has
been pointed up only by there's

1500
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:12,510
somebody the other day that
said, you know, right when talk

1501
01:25:12,510 --> 01:25:16,290
radio listeners get this kind of
information then it never goes

1502
01:25:16,290 --> 01:25:19,440
into the mainstream. And people
are always baffled that and they

1503
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:24,720
cite like the Duke University
student fake rape charges that

1504
01:25:24,780 --> 01:25:29,250
everybody knew was phony that
listens to real news. But the

1505
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,190
New York Times was still
promoting running these kids out

1506
01:25:32,190 --> 01:25:35,430
of school. And it's just
typical, this particular stuff,

1507
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:39,540
right, and I'm hearing a lot
about it. They have not been

1508
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:42,570
able to confirm any warming
whatsoever over the past five or

1509
01:25:42,570 --> 01:25:45,930
six years, and they've been the
and when there's no sea level

1510
01:25:45,930 --> 01:25:47,640
rising and just nothing going
there are

1511
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,810
Adam Curry: 30,000 scientists
who aren't and led by the guy

1512
01:25:51,810 --> 01:25:57,030
who started the Weather Channel,
who are suing Al Gore, and the

1513
01:25:57,030 --> 01:26:01,080
UN about the so called Science
of global warming, you don't

1514
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,880
even hear about that. No, of
course not why 30,000 of which

1515
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:12,960
8000 are PhDs 30,000 The
science. This is from our buddy

1516
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:20,160
Andrew or Loski from the
register. This is quite amazing

1517
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:27,750
to me, the CRU, the Climatic
Research Unit, which of course,

1518
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,640
has provided the global climate
data set, which is the most

1519
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:38,610
cited surface temperature record
kept by the IPCC from the UN. So

1520
01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:43,650
basically, this is the data that
the phony baloney scientists, I

1521
01:26:43,650 --> 01:26:47,040
just can't wait for the email,
the phony baloney scientists of

1522
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:51,570
the United Nations IPCC of which
not all were climatologist, and

1523
01:26:51,570 --> 01:26:54,690
of course, there's now you know,
eight 9000, other real

1524
01:26:54,690 --> 01:26:58,290
climatologists who are against
this research. So this was the

1525
01:26:58,290 --> 01:27:01,500
research that was used that led
to eventually An Inconvenient

1526
01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:05,790
Truth, and, of course, all the
way down to the cap and trade

1527
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:11,880
legislation, and has sparked all
this global warming unrest. They

1528
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:17,610
say they no longer have the raw
data. They don't have the raw

1529
01:27:17,610 --> 01:27:21,210
data anymore. There was a number
of freedom of information

1530
01:27:21,210 --> 01:27:25,860
requests that were submitted for
the raw data. As you know, they

1531
01:27:25,890 --> 01:27:30,030
they're the ones that keep all
the historical data of surface

1532
01:27:30,030 --> 01:27:32,730
temperatures. And here's what
they say, We are not in a

1533
01:27:32,730 --> 01:27:35,940
position to supply data for a
particular country not covered

1534
01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:39,000
by the example agreements
referred to earlier, as we have

1535
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,000
never had sufficient resources
to keep track of the exact

1536
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,570
source of each individual
monthly value. Apparently, they

1537
01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:50,550
don't have USB drives. Since the
1980s. We have merged the data

1538
01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:54,180
that we have received into
existing series or begun new

1539
01:27:54,180 --> 01:27:57,390
ones. So it's impossible to say
if all stations with a

1540
01:27:57,390 --> 01:28:00,360
particular country or all
individual records will be

1541
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,940
freely available data and
storage availability in the

1542
01:28:02,940 --> 01:28:07,050
1980s meant we were not able to
keep the multiple sources for

1543
01:28:07,050 --> 01:28:11,430
sites, only the station series
after adjustment for hump

1544
01:28:11,820 --> 01:28:17,070
homogeneity issues. We therefore
do not Majan at homogeneity with

1545
01:28:17,580 --> 01:28:20,310
I think I've done that was
someone once we therefore do not

1546
01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:24,810
hold the original raw data, but
only the value added ie

1547
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,310
homogenized data.

1548
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,350
John C Dvorak: manipulated when
they use that word, yeah.

1549
01:28:32,850 --> 01:28:34,410
Adam Curry: Oh, that just blows
me away.

1550
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:36,060
John C Dvorak: That's a good one
from our Loski.

1551
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,400
Adam Curry: That's a fence. It's
awesome.

1552
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,120
John C Dvorak: So weird that you
had to read stuff like that in

1553
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,770
the register? Well,

1554
01:28:43,770 --> 01:28:47,460
Adam Curry: I read the register
a lot because it rocks. Because

1555
01:28:47,490 --> 01:28:48,960
it's such a great application.

1556
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,610
John C Dvorak: But it seems to
me, you know,

1557
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:52,440
Adam Curry: can we donate to the
register? How do they make

1558
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:55,350
money? They make plenty of it.
They make more money than we do?

1559
01:28:55,530 --> 01:28:58,170
John C Dvorak: Oh really should
be donating to us.

1560
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,300
Adam Curry: So yeah, so the
headline is global warming eight

1561
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:07,680
my data. We've lost the numbers
as Cru as they respond to

1562
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,620
Freedom of Information request,
the world's source for global

1563
01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:13,620
temperature records, admits it's
lost or destroyed all the

1564
01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:16,770
original data that would allow
third party lost or destroyed.

1565
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,590
Yeah. Well, that's what he said
jobs lost or

1566
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:21,030
John C Dvorak: destroyed, data

1567
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:23,940
Adam Curry: lost or destroyed.
So this is the actual data that

1568
01:29:23,940 --> 01:29:27,540
spawned this whole global global
warming debate. It is no longer

1569
01:29:27,540 --> 01:29:30,690
available because of the 90 day
1980s We didn't have enough

1570
01:29:30,690 --> 01:29:34,740
money to buy hard drives. That's
basically what he's saying.

1571
01:29:35,070 --> 01:29:37,890
John C Dvorak: That's written on
a piece of paper. Yeah.

1572
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,390
Adam Curry: printed out. Science
is truth. Maher is

1573
01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:47,070
John C Dvorak: going to is going
to be sarcastic in response to a

1574
01:29:47,070 --> 01:29:50,730
big debate about global warming.
Oh, global warming. Oh, so Mars.

1575
01:29:50,730 --> 01:29:55,110
Yeah. So So Kathy Griffin comes
in. We're asking a semi serious

1576
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:59,550
question. And Maher throws a
sarcastic remark at her that you

1577
01:29:59,550 --> 01:30:02,850
know, she says Who and I'm gonna
give you some of it. But you got

1578
01:30:02,850 --> 01:30:06,990
to listen to it to appreciate
it. She's asked what's causing

1579
01:30:06,990 --> 01:30:09,030
this. And then Mara
sarcastically says, What's the

1580
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:12,390
Democrats? Oh, they can ruin the
economy, mocking what some right

1581
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:17,880
wingers might say? She takes his
comments seriously. It goes,

1582
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,990
This flies over a head. She's a
comic, by the way, flies over a

1583
01:30:21,990 --> 01:30:26,610
head about a mile, and Maura
tries to recover. But the whole

1584
01:30:26,610 --> 01:30:29,730
thing falls apart. You can hear
Margot Baba Baba, and but the

1585
01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:32,550
whole thing falls apart. Because
everybody gets into the fray. It

1586
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:36,750
is one of the funniest little
scenes I saw on the show.

1587
01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:40,260
Unknown: People are more
skeptical of global warming now

1588
01:30:40,260 --> 01:30:44,280
than they were 10 years ago,
especially young people. This is

1589
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:49,290
really scary. Young people in
great numbers think it's a hoax,

1590
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,680
then who is behind the hoax? It
was behind the lie Democrats to

1591
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,740
make sure our economy fails,
then how do we change

1592
01:30:55,740 --> 01:30:59,130
it? No, but that's what the
Republican mentality I mean, who

1593
01:30:59,130 --> 01:31:01,680
was perpetuating this notion
that global warming is false.

1594
01:31:02,010 --> 01:31:05,250
The people will, I think a small
number of skeptics who get

1595
01:31:05,250 --> 01:31:08,400
disproportionate coverage on the
media and some industries that

1596
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:09,210
don't want to be regulated.

1597
01:31:11,490 --> 01:31:13,080
John C Dvorak: And you notice
these features again, but it

1598
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,900
just a Republican, they all step
all over him. And the joke is

1599
01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:19,710
Adam Curry: I think it was that
same show that he said, you

1600
01:31:19,710 --> 01:31:23,460
know, California is in flames,
you know, because of global

1601
01:31:23,460 --> 01:31:27,990
warming. And you know nothing
about climate jackass. And it's

1602
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:32,130
actually because of a cooler
climate a that has made

1603
01:31:32,130 --> 01:31:37,770
California extremely dry. It is
exactly the opposite. And that,

1604
01:31:37,770 --> 01:31:40,440
to me, that's like huge
disinformation right there.

1605
01:31:40,500 --> 01:31:43,680
Anyway, we will continue to
watch the show, because it

1606
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,550
irritates us. And that is and
that is a form of Come on, man.

1607
01:31:47,550 --> 01:31:54,120
That's a form of a form of
entertainment. NASA is shooting

1608
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:58,890
off rockets to create artificial
clouds in the outermost layers

1609
01:31:58,890 --> 01:32:03,570
of the Earth's atmosphere. It's
called the Kerr project, charged

1610
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:09,600
aerosol release experiment. And
they are literally creating a

1611
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,810
cloud of artificial dust over
the earth.

1612
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,540
John C Dvorak: Why would they
want to do this? This is what

1613
01:32:15,540 --> 01:32:18,630
happens when a volcano goes off
and kills everybody in the

1614
01:32:18,630 --> 01:32:19,320
world. And

1615
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,160
Adam Curry: it's an aluminium
oxide dust particles that

1616
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:28,530
there'll be spreading. And, and
well of course, this is the you

1617
01:32:28,530 --> 01:32:31,950
know, this is like well, maybe
we can stop global warming these

1618
01:32:31,950 --> 01:32:32,400
knows

1619
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,590
John C Dvorak: you can't be
okay.

1620
01:32:35,850 --> 01:32:37,710
Adam Curry: All the all the
links. Let

1621
01:32:37,710 --> 01:32:40,800
John C Dvorak: me tell you this,
I was at an event. And there was

1622
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,500
a guy from NASA even though
nobody from NASA seems to know

1623
01:32:43,500 --> 01:32:46,860
who he was, who went out for
this half baked theory about

1624
01:32:46,860 --> 01:32:50,010
putting up all these crazy
satellites that would then open

1625
01:32:50,010 --> 01:32:55,950
up these huge panels and block
the sun to sound like like

1626
01:32:55,950 --> 01:33:00,240
Montgomery burns Simpson
episode. That's funny. And he's

1627
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,880
gonna block the sun. And there's
a bunch of people Chipotle in

1628
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,250
the audience nodding their heads
in agreement. This

1629
01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:06,450
Unknown: idea Yeah.

1630
01:33:08,130 --> 01:33:10,470
John C Dvorak: This guy is in
criminally insane, he should be

1631
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:11,640
taken out now.

1632
01:33:11,820 --> 01:33:17,520
Adam Curry: Well, it gets worse.
Tomorrow. Friday, NASA will

1633
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:22,620
launch a spectacular mission to
bomb the moon.

1634
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,660
John C Dvorak: This is not the
time we get to bomb the moon. So

1635
01:33:27,660 --> 01:33:30,660
they get bombed the spot where
we didn't land. The

1636
01:33:30,660 --> 01:33:34,170
Adam Curry: L Cross mission will
blast off from Cape Canaveral,

1637
01:33:34,170 --> 01:33:37,830
Florida carrying a missile that
will blast a hole in the lunar

1638
01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:40,320
surface at twice the speed of a
bullet.

1639
01:33:42,420 --> 01:33:47,790
John C Dvorak: And all sizes of
bullet go. I don't know. That

1640
01:33:47,790 --> 01:33:51,240
bullet goes about Mach 1.5. I
think maybe so and

1641
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,000
Adam Curry: this is another one
of the space scientists want to

1642
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,260
see if any water ice or vapor is
revealed in the clouds of the

1643
01:33:58,260 --> 01:34:01,140
debris. You know, it's just not
a good idea to be shooting at

1644
01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:04,620
the moon. It just doesn't. It
just isn't. You know, the old

1645
01:34:04,620 --> 01:34:07,590
saying Shoot the Moon shoot for
the moon sun. Well, they're

1646
01:34:07,590 --> 01:34:11,730
doing it. But this this creating
clouds is a part of

1647
01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:15,060
geoengineering. And we haven't
actually talked about this but

1648
01:34:15,060 --> 01:34:18,330
there's a lot of these kooky
things like the you know, expand

1649
01:34:18,330 --> 01:34:22,920
the panels, there's also there's
been talk of trying to push the

1650
01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:26,640
earth you know, and move our
orbit a little bit and it's

1651
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,480
like, this is dangerous and
crazy thinking. This is not

1652
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:36,810
always is not a good idea. But
But spewing aluminium oxide into

1653
01:34:36,810 --> 01:34:39,630
the atmosphere or even if it's
above the atmosphere, it just

1654
01:34:39,630 --> 01:34:43,380
doesn't seem like a good idea.
They'll be tracking the dust

1655
01:34:43,380 --> 01:34:46,410
cloud for days or even months to
study its behavior

1656
01:34:46,410 --> 01:34:48,240
John C Dvorak: years of this
thing stuck with it. How's it

1657
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,520
going to come down? It's not
gonna rain. There's no rain

1658
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,320
that's going to take it out.
How's it going? How's it going

1659
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:53,190
to dissipate?

1660
01:34:54,030 --> 01:34:57,570
Adam Curry: Let me see what they
say. The US Navy, NASA and the

1661
01:34:57,570 --> 01:35:01,440
US Defense Department. Oh, what
are they doing? In this has made

1662
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:04,440
a decision to conduct one or
more atmospheric tests in order

1663
01:35:04,440 --> 01:35:07,350
to create an aluminium oxide
dust cloud without the

1664
01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:09,240
permission and for the most
part, the knowledge of the

1665
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:13,650
citizens of the United States.
Eventually, they say the oxide

1666
01:35:13,650 --> 01:35:17,190
particles will return to Earth
polluting the air, water and

1667
01:35:17,190 --> 01:35:17,820
soil.

1668
01:35:19,050 --> 01:35:20,520
John C Dvorak: But they don't
say how are they going to return

1669
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:21,090
to Earth?

1670
01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:23,670
Adam Curry: I don't know what
we'll see how high up it's

1671
01:35:23,670 --> 01:35:29,790
going. We got to find out well,
if it's if it's kind of like,

1672
01:35:29,820 --> 01:35:34,680
you know, in the, in that layer
where the Concorde used to fly,

1673
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:39,390
I guess eventually it will come
down to earth. I don't like it.

1674
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:42,360
John C Dvorak: No, I don't like
this this sort of

1675
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,110
experimentation with the I think
the United Nations had cracked.

1676
01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:49,050
Where are they in these
pictures? Oh, well, this is an

1677
01:35:49,050 --> 01:35:52,110
international situation. In
other words, people in France

1678
01:35:52,110 --> 01:35:54,330
oh, by the way, anyway, I want
to thank the people that from

1679
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,810
around the world who gave us
money, but the people around the

1680
01:35:57,810 --> 01:36:02,550
world why should they why should
this aluminum cloud be floating

1681
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:08,700
over their country? Yes. I mean,
it's really I think there's a

1682
01:36:08,700 --> 01:36:11,670
treaty violation here. You can't
just throw crap in the air like

1683
01:36:11,670 --> 01:36:15,030
that, you know, unnaturally. And
then just because you think it's

1684
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,710
fun to experiment climate, it's

1685
01:36:16,710 --> 01:36:18,420
Adam Curry: time it's time. It's
time It's time exam exam.

1686
01:36:18,570 --> 01:36:22,140
John C Dvorak: This is Chris
Matthews, Ron Reagan and a black

1687
01:36:22,170 --> 01:36:25,770
guy, which I'm sorry, I don't
have his name. Who who's very

1688
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,160
jazzed to hold his own against
them. When he brings up the

1689
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:30,870
climate change issue here goes

1690
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:33,630
Unknown: in the interest of this
country. Everybody knows the

1691
01:36:33,630 --> 01:36:36,360
same thing. Basically, there is
a climate change problem.

1692
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:39,030
Anybody reads the paper thinks
knows somewhere down the line

1693
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:42,090
number two, their man has
something to do with number two.

1694
01:36:42,270 --> 01:36:44,790
And number three, we're going to
stop depending on Arab oil, or

1695
01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:49,080
we're crazy. So you got to do
something about it. And is the

1696
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,500
President doing something he is
doing something you say everyone

1697
01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:54,630
who knows anything says that
there's global climate change? I

1698
01:36:54,630 --> 01:36:57,420
think there's serious scientific
disputes of whether or not that

1699
01:36:57,420 --> 01:37:00,690
is actually viable. But let me
address the challenge. Of

1700
01:37:00,690 --> 01:37:03,600
course, I really challenge it. I
think you've had we've seen what

1701
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,240
happened in East Anglia over in
England, where they discredited

1702
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,730
the scientific research and
these people, I think that is a

1703
01:37:08,730 --> 01:37:14,010
gimmick. question, the question
of collusion at this meeting.

1704
01:37:14,820 --> 01:37:17,070
Chris. Oh, wait a second. So
we're supposed to take

1705
01:37:17,070 --> 01:37:19,650
scientists who have a fiduciary
interest in this that could

1706
01:37:19,650 --> 01:37:21,660
benefit our fiduciary

1707
01:37:21,660 --> 01:37:24,120
Adam Curry: interest. Nice,
nice, good word.

1708
01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:28,380
Unknown: party line. This is
actually I've researched this.

1709
01:37:28,500 --> 01:37:30,990
Why should we take hook line and
sinker? We'll put some of these

1710
01:37:30,990 --> 01:37:33,000
environmentalists have said
about global climate change. Why

1711
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:34,830
don't we have an honest debate?
Why don't we have the

1712
01:37:34,830 --> 01:37:37,830
conservative voices actually
address them? Because the

1713
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:40,830
weather invoiced right now in
the last x many years is the

1714
01:37:40,830 --> 01:37:44,880
same as it used to be in photo
and warmer and warmer. It was

1715
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,430
sure warm here on the East
Coast. We had blizzards. It was

1716
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:49,470
one of the it was one of the
coldest winters on record.

1717
01:37:50,130 --> 01:37:52,140
crediting yourself, Ron, come
on.

1718
01:37:53,670 --> 01:37:56,070
Actually, Ron Reagan. I'm
actually making my point. It was

1719
01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:57,090
one of the coldest winters

1720
01:37:58,980 --> 01:38:03,270
one of the discredits, you know
it doesn't your thoughts. Well,

1721
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:05,790
listen, weather is not climate.
So let's forget about climate

1722
01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:11,880
change. To be part of it isn't
it isn't? Well, as I do. We're

1723
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,880
talking about climate change for
the moment because we don't even

1724
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,270
have to discuss climate change.
We can discuss national security

1725
01:38:18,270 --> 01:38:21,150
here. Everybody knows forget
about climate change. Everything

1726
01:38:21,150 --> 01:38:25,650
is the future isn't solar and
wind, sustainable energy

1727
01:38:25,650 --> 01:38:28,050
sources. That's where we have to
be going now.

1728
01:38:28,140 --> 01:38:30,960
Adam Curry: No, I take sucks
exception to that. That's

1729
01:38:31,410 --> 01:38:35,010
unbelievable. That's bullshit.
How about nuclear? There's all

1730
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:36,630
the

1731
01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:39,180
John C Dvorak: guy that
Republican there he's Tiedemann

1732
01:38:39,210 --> 01:38:42,720
is that you and then they jump
him up, jump on him for that, in

1733
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:43,920
fact, is the clip still

1734
01:38:45,150 --> 01:38:48,270
Unknown: got half a minute left?
Not to the past, we gotta be

1735
01:38:48,270 --> 01:38:50,850
going to the 21st century, not
the 19th.

1736
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,430
Now we're on ranking. Here's
where I agree with you. I agree

1737
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:55,800
with all those but you need to
add one more component to that

1738
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,040
you need to add nuclear energy.
France has over 80% of their

1739
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,800
domestic supply supplied by
nuclear energy. The only thing

1740
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,140
you guys like about the French
is nuclear energy that's about

1741
01:39:04,170 --> 01:39:08,610
you never on any topic, you will
need to French fries you make

1742
01:39:08,610 --> 01:39:09,780
front of their freedom fries.

1743
01:39:13,230 --> 01:39:15,510
John C Dvorak: Anyway, this is a
good example of being shouted

1744
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:23,430
down for having any any kind of
thought full consideration

1745
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:27,030
whatsoever. You just get shouted
down by these guys. And that's

1746
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:30,810
how this whole thing does
sciences in everybody agrees.

1747
01:39:30,900 --> 01:39:34,680
Anyway, Matthew says anyone who
reads a newspaper agrees. In

1748
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:39,810
other words, the scientists not
the scientists don't only agree,

1749
01:39:39,810 --> 01:39:43,620
but anyone who reads a newspaper
also agree so everybody agrees

1750
01:39:43,620 --> 01:39:46,650
except idiots. And the funny
thing is, they have these memes

1751
01:39:46,650 --> 01:39:49,740
that they keep putting out Arab
oil era boy we don't even use

1752
01:39:49,740 --> 01:39:53,010
why don't they be honest about
it and say it's Alberta Oil.

1753
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,700
Most of the oil in the United
States that we use is from

1754
01:39:56,700 --> 01:40:01,170
Alberta, Canada and Venezuela.
We have very low Little oil from

1755
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,470
Saudi Arabia very little. And
then they throw this this this

1756
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:07,290
nasty little comment about, oh,
well if you don't believe in

1757
01:40:07,290 --> 01:40:09,720
global warming, you don't
believe in evolution either,

1758
01:40:09,810 --> 01:40:13,830
which is a really ridiculous
specious jump leap of faith.

1759
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:17,520
It's a chickenshit thing to do
your math, you should be ashamed

1760
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,450
of himself for even being on the
air with this kind of crap. John

1761
01:40:21,450 --> 01:40:28,080
Cena borax. Indeed, I had like a
jaw dropping moment when I got

1762
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:34,530
this particular clip. Thinking
what Did anybody go over the

1763
01:40:34,530 --> 01:40:38,400
script? Was this ad lib. I can't
believe they even let this

1764
01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:45,180
sensors like this bit go through
play it. So nice to meet Paul.

1765
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:46,470
interesting guy.

1766
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,390
Unknown: How much do you know
about him?

1767
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:48,930
Well,

1768
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:53,310
I lost a toe ring. And um, so I
say a lot. No, I mean, what he

1769
01:40:53,310 --> 01:40:58,620
does. They probably didn't
understand that. How

1770
01:40:58,620 --> 01:40:59,430
unbelievable.

1771
01:41:00,870 --> 01:41:03,720
John C Dvorak: I'm listening to
that. What they're trying

1772
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,670
Adam Curry: to do it you know,
they're doing anything they can

1773
01:41:05,670 --> 01:41:08,400
to get ratings. How bad is it
when you have something like

1774
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,350
that in your script? And no one
talks about it.

1775
01:41:10,710 --> 01:41:13,020
John C Dvorak: Nobody talks
about it. Nobody cares. Nobody

1776
01:41:13,020 --> 01:41:18,270
notices. What you say what can
we do? I don't know. Let's get

1777
01:41:18,270 --> 01:41:19,290
more weird.

1778
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,400
Adam Curry: That show of course
is well known for also pushing

1779
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,270
the agenda. They put gluten your
global warming stuff in there.

1780
01:41:27,270 --> 01:41:29,700
They're definitely on board with
the propaganda

1781
01:41:29,730 --> 01:41:32,790
John C Dvorak: but as Hollywood.
Yeah, you're in LA. I mean, that

1782
01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:36,030
whole the whole thing is out of
Hollywood. Yeah. So we got some

1783
01:41:36,030 --> 01:41:39,450
climate change clips. And we've
been sitting on Oh, yeah, do we

1784
01:41:39,930 --> 01:41:43,320
do let me play? Let's play what
my climate change one and two

1785
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,050
and see what it says I can't
remember the spin these been in

1786
01:41:46,050 --> 01:41:48,360
the rundown for weeks on end.
Check

1787
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:52,950
Adam Curry: it out. The ice caps
are melting. The polar bears are

1788
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:56,520
dying. What is this from? Do you
know? No, I can't remember

1789
01:41:56,970 --> 01:42:00,210
Unknown: a recent study. It's
not Bret Michaels by any chance,

1790
01:42:00,210 --> 01:42:04,650
is it? No. He by Yale and George
Mason University's found that

1791
01:42:04,650 --> 01:42:09,900
56% of Americans don't trust
public figures like Al Gore and

1792
01:42:09,900 --> 01:42:13,800
Sarah Palin on climate change as
much as they do the local

1793
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:14,850
weather forecaster.

1794
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,000
And your seven day forecast will
show those showers and the

1795
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:18,390
climate

1796
01:42:18,390 --> 01:42:21,840
change scientists are
scientists, they freely admit

1797
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,720
they haven't always been
effective spokespeople for their

1798
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:25,320
cause.

1799
01:42:25,380 --> 01:42:28,050
I plead guilty. I don't think
we've done the best job that we

1800
01:42:28,050 --> 01:42:29,250
could have done. Penn

1801
01:42:29,250 --> 01:42:32,340
State's Michael Mann is one of
the scientists who last year had

1802
01:42:32,340 --> 01:42:36,300
his emails hacked. And quoted
worldwide by climate change

1803
01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:37,560
skeptics has

1804
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:42,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so this is
this was a knob getting wrapped

1805
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:47,730
remembering this was either on
Nightline, or a something on PBS

1806
01:42:47,730 --> 01:42:50,100
and they were showing they were
getting they were they were

1807
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:54,990
showing the difference between
the climatologists and the and

1808
01:42:55,050 --> 01:43:02,040
and the weather guys, the the
meteorologists and the debate.

1809
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:04,080
And it was it was a very
interesting debate, because the

1810
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,230
meteorologists made a lot more
sense than these other guys who

1811
01:43:07,230 --> 01:43:12,570
are just all in. I don't know,
like climate change, too. And I

1812
01:43:12,570 --> 01:43:13,140
think there's no

1813
01:43:13,140 --> 01:43:15,960
Unknown: serious debate within
the scientific community about

1814
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,720
the reality of human caused
climate change and

1815
01:43:18,930 --> 01:43:20,790
debate. No, of course, there's

1816
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:23,760
John C Dvorak: no debate. It's
funny, because you're on a show

1817
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,680
where they're debating part

1818
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,840
Unknown: of your job is to
convince all of us, isn't it?

1819
01:43:27,870 --> 01:43:31,860
I don't see my job is convincing
anybody of anything. I know, you

1820
01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:34,620
just have to believe what I say
I went to school dammit, to see

1821
01:43:34,620 --> 01:43:39,120
my job as a scientist of making
sure that the public discourse

1822
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:42,030
is informed by an accurate
understanding of the science.

1823
01:43:42,270 --> 01:43:46,200
And that may be one reason that
doubting meteorologists have had

1824
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,290
such a huge opening to convince
the public otherwise.

1825
01:43:49,770 --> 01:43:52,500
John C Dvorak: But then again,
that you know, I have a, you

1826
01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:55,200
know, I'm a ditch digging
meteorologist so that just a

1827
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:56,280
Bachelor of Science,

1828
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,220
Unknown: this is the biggest
forecast at the mall. And the

1829
01:43:59,220 --> 01:44:02,370
stakes are much higher. All
right. Now,

1830
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,470
John C Dvorak: I think the
unfortunate I don't have the

1831
01:44:04,470 --> 01:44:07,140
notes on this anymore, but I did
a lot of research and we'll

1832
01:44:07,140 --> 01:44:11,460
probably bring it up in a future
show. But the in the 70s and you

1833
01:44:11,460 --> 01:44:15,420
can look this stuff up. The
science was in in all the

1834
01:44:15,420 --> 01:44:19,140
climatologist then, of course,
we're predicting global cooling,

1835
01:44:19,710 --> 01:44:23,190
except for one guy who
apparently has been with global

1836
01:44:23,190 --> 01:44:25,470
warming the whole time. And
there's another guy who's been

1837
01:44:25,470 --> 01:44:29,070
global cooling to this day, the
whole time. But for the most

1838
01:44:29,070 --> 01:44:31,080
part, it was always
climatologists that were

1839
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,210
convinced that we're going to
have global cooling, it's going

1840
01:44:33,210 --> 01:44:36,150
to be the worst thing ever. And
there are huge articles in Time

1841
01:44:36,150 --> 01:44:39,540
Magazine and Newsweek. And it's
and it was the same and you'd

1842
01:44:39,540 --> 01:44:41,010
hear the pitch was exactly

1843
01:44:41,070 --> 01:44:43,800
Adam Curry: the same. Same
script. Exact same exact same

1844
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,350
script. Yep.

1845
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:47,850
John C Dvorak: I don't know.

1846
01:44:48,150 --> 01:44:49,530
Adam Curry: Well, so

1847
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:52,260
John C Dvorak: that's why our
Wikipedia page has been ruined

1848
01:44:52,260 --> 01:44:56,220
by this tour by characters Hu
RBA. So

1849
01:44:56,220 --> 01:45:01,170
Adam Curry: the global warming
weather are a true or not,

1850
01:45:01,170 --> 01:45:04,140
there's a lot of the people who
are claiming that this is

1851
01:45:04,140 --> 01:45:08,370
horrible and happening, and it's
all because of us is, are the

1852
01:45:08,370 --> 01:45:11,760
same people who stand to make a
lot of money. And we've talked

1853
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:16,170
about this many times on the
show, we've shamed Al Gore for

1854
01:45:16,170 --> 01:45:19,950
his business dealings, and I'm
happy to see Investor's Business

1855
01:45:19,950 --> 01:45:25,590
Daily, which I would say is
reasonably well regarded.

1856
01:45:26,370 --> 01:45:29,280
John C Dvorak: No, absolutely.
In fact, horror, which is a huge

1857
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,470
fan of that publication,
especially the weekend edition,

1858
01:45:31,470 --> 01:45:32,220
I guess. So

1859
01:45:32,220 --> 01:45:35,550
Adam Curry: here it is titled
The $10 trillion dollar climate

1860
01:45:35,550 --> 01:45:39,180
fraud. And it outlines exactly
what we've mentioned on this

1861
01:45:39,180 --> 01:45:41,460
show. In fact, I should probably
do a little

1862
01:45:46,890 --> 01:45:50,760
so what it starts right off,
well, senators from a froth over

1863
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:53,910
Goldman Sachs and derivatives a
climate trading scheme being run

1864
01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:56,280
out of the Chicago Climate
Exchange would make birdie made

1865
01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:00,330
off blush, and his trail leads
to the White House is exactly

1866
01:46:00,330 --> 01:46:03,390
what we told you. Well, I just
did something really weird. I

1867
01:46:03,390 --> 01:46:06,480
tried to use my finger on the
screen of my Mac to scroll the

1868
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:13,800
page. Whoa, that was strange.
Thinking it was an iPad. Lost in

1869
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,530
the recent headlines is Al
Gore's appearance Monday in

1870
01:46:16,530 --> 01:46:20,490
Denver at the annual meeting of
Council of Foundations, an

1871
01:46:20,490 --> 01:46:24,090
association of the nation's
philanthropic leaders, and he

1872
01:46:24,090 --> 01:46:27,660
said Time's running out. We have
to get our act together, you

1873
01:46:27,660 --> 01:46:30,870
have a unique role in getting
our act together. And it goes

1874
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:31,620
right on to say,

1875
01:46:31,650 --> 01:46:34,080
John C Dvorak: oh, find it. By
the way, do you find it odd?

1876
01:46:34,710 --> 01:46:39,030
That despite all the climate
gate, and the scandals and the

1877
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:42,330
arguments that are legitimate by
lots of scientists, and I mean,

1878
01:46:43,950 --> 01:46:48,510
there's just an amazing number
of heavy hitters that have

1879
01:46:48,570 --> 01:46:51,270
thought this thing is something
bogus about it, and they want to

1880
01:46:51,270 --> 01:46:55,740
talk about it more, and they're
not convinced that this is just

1881
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:59,550
it's as though there that says
no, nothing happened. Nothing is

1882
01:46:59,550 --> 01:47:02,400
happening. Right. We're
marching, marching, marching,

1883
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,850
marching direction. Oh, yeah. Do
you find it odd? I mean, it's

1884
01:47:05,850 --> 01:47:09,120
almost like, you know, it's
almost like a little kid

1885
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:10,410
covering his ears and going, I

1886
01:47:10,410 --> 01:47:11,880
Unknown: guess, my mom, my mom,
my

1887
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,950
John C Dvorak: mama can hear
you, you know, kind of thing is,

1888
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:16,770
um, it's almost reminds me of
that extreme.

1889
01:47:16,830 --> 01:47:19,230
Adam Curry: You have a John,
when you have Bret Michaels?

1890
01:47:20,190 --> 01:47:23,700
Possibly not appearing on the
final Live episodes of Celebrity

1891
01:47:23,700 --> 01:47:28,950
Apprentice, how can you even be
bothered with any of this? So

1892
01:47:28,980 --> 01:47:33,180
this just going back to, to this
Gore thing, and I love that

1893
01:47:33,180 --> 01:47:36,330
Investor's Business Daily, a
very serious publication. And

1894
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,510
yeah, you're right. Let's see if
anyone jumps on this. Of course

1895
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:41,640
they won't, because the whole
thing is a scam. And everyone,

1896
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:49,020
everyone everybody wants in on
it. He set up the Chicago

1897
01:47:49,020 --> 01:47:55,290
Climate Exchange, which is now
part, which was this guy named

1898
01:47:55,290 --> 01:47:58,290
Sandor. I mean, we went through
all of this stuff, who, by the

1899
01:47:58,290 --> 01:48:01,500
way, is the guy that claims the
climate trading of carbon

1900
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:04,710
credits could be a $10 trillion
market, which is why everyone's

1901
01:48:04,710 --> 01:48:08,700
shutting up about it. They're
like, Hey, how can I get in? But

1902
01:48:08,700 --> 01:48:11,340
what you need to know is that
the client, the Chicago Climate

1903
01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:15,870
Exchange, was set up with grant
money from the Joyce Foundation.

1904
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:21,120
And on the board of the Joyce
Foundation was Barack Obama.

1905
01:48:21,660 --> 01:48:22,740
John C Dvorak: What Oh, really?
Yeah,

1906
01:48:22,770 --> 01:48:25,170
Adam Curry: we talked about this
on the show. He's all in your

1907
01:48:25,170 --> 01:48:29,400
tone. Of course, he's all in. So
this is zero. So everybody's in

1908
01:48:29,430 --> 01:48:30,720
on the scam.

1909
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,450
John C Dvorak: And it's a form
of taxation.

1910
01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:36,600
Adam Curry: But will the cap and
trade will be but then another

1911
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:37,740
thing that wasn't even

1912
01:48:37,740 --> 01:48:39,780
John C Dvorak: trained keeps
marching forward. How can that

1913
01:48:39,780 --> 01:48:41,580
happen? Well, they've changed it
to

1914
01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:45,750
Adam Curry: remove pollution.
But then on Friday, and I'm sure

1915
01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:52,140
you didn't see this reported.
Atlanta based cm e group, has

1916
01:48:52,140 --> 01:49:00,540
agreed to pay $604 million for
Climate Exchange PLC. This is a

1917
01:49:00,540 --> 01:49:04,230
London based operator of the
Chicago Climate Exchange and

1918
01:49:04,230 --> 01:49:12,120
Chicago Climate futures exchange
$604 million dollars. The

1919
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,420
combination of climate exchanges
and mission markets and ICE

1920
01:49:15,420 --> 01:49:19,470
Futures and OTC energy markets
is an important and logical

1921
01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:22,410
strategic combination. So what
they've done is they've seen

1922
01:49:22,410 --> 01:49:25,950
that the heat is on right the
sea Oh my God, I am shit man.

1923
01:49:25,950 --> 01:49:28,920
You know, the heat is on and all
this and everyone's looking into

1924
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,370
Gore's investments. And, you
know, and yes, there's a number

1925
01:49:32,370 --> 01:49:35,910
of go ex Goldman guys who are
we've built this trading

1926
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:40,740
company. So now they're gonna
hide it in another group, and

1927
01:49:40,740 --> 01:49:46,350
they've just folded it in. And
it's going to be harder to

1928
01:49:46,350 --> 01:49:50,700
track. You know, we won't be
able to point to the evil owl

1929
01:49:50,700 --> 01:49:55,080
because he'll be on the outside
of it all. And this gets no

1930
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:58,410
play. not a small deal. By the
way, more than half a billion

1931
01:49:58,410 --> 01:50:00,360
dollars for something that
doesn't even work

1932
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,690
John C Dvorak: yet? Yeah, that's
pretty amazing. That's expensive

1933
01:50:03,690 --> 01:50:04,170
just based

1934
01:50:04,170 --> 01:50:06,630
Adam Curry: upon future possible
revenues. And this is the

1935
01:50:06,630 --> 01:50:10,170
trading desk by these. This is
like the the it's like a

1936
01:50:10,170 --> 01:50:15,990
computer like a PC, like a big
ass computer that they paid a

1937
01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:17,130
lot of money for.

1938
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:19,800
Unknown: The global warming is
happening and humans are the

1939
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,860
cause. There's not another side
of the issue. And

1940
01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:27,390
Adam Curry: it turns out this
guy doesn't believe in peak oil.

1941
01:50:28,650 --> 01:50:31,140
This whole drone guy, in fact,
he's come out as a staunch

1942
01:50:31,170 --> 01:50:34,410
opponent of peak oil. And what's
interesting, well, it is

1943
01:50:34,410 --> 01:50:36,900
interesting for a number of
reasons. So I go back and forth

1944
01:50:36,900 --> 01:50:40,650
with our with our friend. And
two things come up. Number one,

1945
01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:45,210
they program all these climate
models in Fortran, which is kind

1946
01:50:45,210 --> 01:50:50,880
of funny, but it's like a step
by step below COBOL. And guess

1947
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,330
what's going to happen next year
when their new computers are

1948
01:50:54,330 --> 01:50:56,850
supposed to come in? Guess
what's going to be in there?

1949
01:50:58,470 --> 01:51:03,270
What IBM Watson, of course, see,
this is this is how the this is

1950
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:06,390
how the propaganda works. First,
you show that this thing can't

1951
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:09,240
be wrong. This thing is awesome.
It wins Jeopardy. It's

1952
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:13,770
fantastic. You got to love IBM
Watson. It has a personality, it

1953
01:51:13,770 --> 01:51:16,620
talks to you. It's fantastic.
And now it is going it's going

1954
01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:19,380
to actually come out and say I
have predicted that climate

1955
01:51:19,380 --> 01:51:22,860
change is real. You must be
careful humans, we must reduce

1956
01:51:22,860 --> 01:51:27,840
our greenhouse gas emissions by
83%. By 2050. Final Jeopardy

1957
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:31,110
answer is I guarantee you this
is going to happen. Watson will

1958
01:51:31,110 --> 01:51:34,920
be on television talking to us
about climate change, because no

1959
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,290
one believes the politicians but
Watson I mean, how can you how

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can you argue with the Jeopardy
winner? Let's be honest. So IBM

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is up for the contracts for the
new climate change computers.

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That's number one. And I have a
tip, I have a tip for everybody.

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If you are in a conversation, we
should put this in one of our

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emails, John, if you agree with
it, if you and I verified this

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with our insider. Peak Oil, of
course, is perpendicular to

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greenhouse gas emission
reductions, because and I think

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that most people who believe in
manmade climate change, the

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climate is changing, no doubt
about it. But we've got the sun

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exploding, all kinds of stuff
happening right now. But if you

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are in a conversation with
someone, there's a 95% chance

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they also believe in peak oil.
So this is how you trap them.

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You say, can you believe that?
We're responsible for all this

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climate change? Yes. You believe
in peak oil? Yes. Well, then we

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don't have to worry do we? Could
we just run out of oil and then

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we'll have no problem? That's a
good one. Seriously, it's like

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you don't know. I like it. This
is why I can This is why hold on

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is against it. Because he knows
that and they're always really

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quiet about it. You never hear
people yelling, hooting and

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hollering about peak oil.
Because this is logical

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inconsistency

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John C Dvorak: is he's actually
exactly what he has assumed. God

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What are we gonna do about this
one? Yeah, but isn't

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Adam Curry: it beautiful? You
just say hey, do you believe and

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I guarantee you people who
believe in manmade

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John C Dvorak: You're right. Is
this the same mentality? Yep.

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The mentality is that everything
we do is screwed up. Because

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we're humans and we're you know
wrecking the place because we're

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just bad people who are burned

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Adam Curry: out weren't enough
fossil fuels tell us you know

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what we don't that problem
solved peak oil will run out of

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oil Hey, we may have to walk we
may not we unless we figure out

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battery technology. But we won't
have to worry about greenhouse

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gas emissions because we won't
have anything to burn now we'll

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wait and watch people go because
it freezes your brain and this

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holder and he's against it of
course he is he's no

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John C Dvorak: he's a little
late to get bringing up that

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that's like a dip that's funny
because there's not going to

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work because there's no way that
you can all of a sudden change

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gears amongst the you know the
crowd with the climate change

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crowd the warmest Yep, you can't
all of a sudden pull the plug on

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their their very strong belief
about peak

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Adam Curry: oil Exactly. That's
a good but as it comes to

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John C Dvorak: that then that's
the winner for the show as it

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comes

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Adam Curry: to manmade global
warming which means because of

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our cars and all the oil we're
burning at evil oil evil oil

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because of that, we're all going
to die so we have to reduce that

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well with peak oil. Great
problem solved. Ah, good to hear

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peak oil again.

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John C Dvorak: Oh peak oil we
forgot all about P we're having

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a peak oil What a crock

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Adam Curry: never pigs after we
said hey, peak oil you know, the

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problem solved no more climate
change after the oil runs out.

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They all went oh though. There's
no agenda. There's no agenda

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boys around to us. You gotta
stop. Well, if anyone has any

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ideas for a global warming
special after you do the climate

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change, or whatever else you can
come up with. Being at.io is a

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great resource, as are all the
show notes, no agenda show.net

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And I'm looking forward to
thanking a whole bunch of people

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who supported this show on the
next one, which will be live on

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Thursday? Yep. Yep, he says all
right. Yep. Very, very much

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appreciate you helping with the
ending here. Coming to you

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almost live from the heart of
the Texas hill country here in

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Fredericksburg, Texas FEMA
Region number six in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry, and

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John C Dvorak: I'm from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain

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I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: We return on
Thursday. Join us then live we

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expect you to show up in droves,
you trolls and remember us at no

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agenda donations.com Until then,
adios mo fossa, Hui Hui and such