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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm looking
out my window and the ocean hasn't arisen. What am I doing
here? I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: And Bushkill. All right, this is where everyone
gets to listen to us as we've sounded for the past five or six
years and wait until you hear the rest of the show. It will
sound remarkably different. It's the big climate change special,
John?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you put this together based on using the
new being at IO. Search engine, you found a bunch of stuff and
you couldn't get it. Now you're telling us you couldn't get past
show? 100 you actually filled all show up? Yes. Yes,
Adam Curry: I started at the first that I searched for global
warming being at.io, which anybody can put together a clip
show, by the way, hint, hint, any topic you want works really
well. You can also embed stuff into your favorite social
network. So the first mention of global warming was November
30 2007. Okay, 2007. That was AlphaGo. That was the first
mention when but I think and that's our probably our first
clip up when you're talking about how nothing, you know,
there was no change, there was supposed to be horrible weather,
and there was only one hurricane. And this is
consistent throughout the entire first 100 episodes, which takes
us up to just about 2009. And that had towers, I'm like, I
gotta stop here. And that was only global warming, it wasn't
climate change, even I went ahead to like 2010 to just throw
in a couple of things that I have to like to eclipse just to
throw in some some extra stuff. It's insane. How nothing has
changed. It's all about getting rid of meat.
John C Dvorak: It's always about the meat.
Adam Curry: It's the it's an all you can see all these things
have changed over time. Like we went from cow farts, to cow
burps all of a sudden that that they
John C Dvorak: could the cow first didn't get very far. And
Adam Curry: I think it's just beautiful that we have this
capability now to do this. So we can revisit every single mention
of global warming just in the first couple of years, which
John C Dvorak: we got 10 More shows to do on this easily,
Adam Curry: easily. We can do it. Alright, well can't get up.
I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: Let me as safe as you can get this much material,
although it's the same material recycled obviously. Exactly what
not by us by them.
Adam Curry: Well, what's what's interesting is the amount of
things that I had completely forgotten about, it's some good
revisitation of up just the source material, when it all
kicked off, it was all very early on in the game. And you'll
sit there and go, Wow, nothing has really changed. Those guys
are great. That's the main point, I want you to think those
guys are great. Let's kick it off by going back to the very
beginning episode for
John C Dvorak: the sciences. You know, in 2005, when everyone's
really jacked up about global warming, there was these 26
hurricanes at the US. And so everybody's thinking, you know,
they're all the whole climate change and all this other folks
run for the hills run for the hills. So they So Colorado State
there, they were one of these, you know, these, all these great
meteorologist area, you know, arenas or I don't know what they
are, but these schools that have a lot of meteorologists in them
and they're big shots, meteorologists out of state
predicted 17 We're gonna hit this year, it's gonna be
horrible, and it's getting worse and worse and worse because of
global warming. One Yeah, I
Adam Curry: was gonna say, I can't think of more than one,
John C Dvorak: no one hit the state. So there's a few that
hit, you know, Central America, but even then it wasn't that
many. So it was a dud. So, so I'm thinking that these, you
know, climatologists and all these meteorologists, these guys
don't know anything. And
Adam Curry: we're still waiting for the huge superstorm that is
supposed to hit the west coast of continental continental
Europe and the east coast of the UK
John C Dvorak: science. Yeah. Well, a lot of people think it's
just a scam. I mean, there's like, I think there is a climate
change happening. You can tell it. I mean, you've talked to
winemakers anywhere in the world. I'll tell you this, those
things have changed. But it's improved things for the most
part of wine. It's the go Yeah, especially the German wines,
man. Come on, really. Notice all German wines, which was always
like, you know, they've always made good, sweet, white wines
that Reds have never been any good. But now but and even this
week, whites are always kind of, you know, hit and miss. But in
the last nonetheless, almost up to the last 10 years, they're
making tremendous red wines, which is really weird. Nobody
even believes it until it's proven to them. And they're
making this just one great vintage after another of some of
these term, just terrific white wines that are just and they're
well priced and descend in this kind of an overlooked area
because if people don't understand them, they keep
changing their labeling laws. And just stunned stunned and I
think this the same thing is going to happen to Nora again,
Washington, especially Oregon pinos and maybe burgundy it
looks like burgundy is having a string of really great ended,
which is an area that make Pinot Noir. And it's always under ripe
and there's crappie, for the most part, if they're really
good ones, and are these
Adam Curry: are these young vintages that you're talking
about that are really good are the older vintages?
John C Dvorak: No, no, that starting around in Burgundy, it
started at around I'm about 99, something like that maybe nice
95. And I think it's somewhere somewhere around the mid 90s. Or
but but by the beginning of the turn of the century, it was
almost like they're hitting every year as a great year. 2005
being the most recent Super year, in Burgundy, Bordeaux and
everyplace else. It's just you know, you just drink these
wines. When you get a hold of one, even though they're not
ready to drink yet. And you go holy crap. I haven't tasted
anything like this forever.
Adam Curry: Well, next time. Next time in town. We'll have to
have one on you have not introduced me to a good German
wine.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, no, I did
promise finding a good German wine in a restaurant in San
Francisco is probably a little difficult. Although I think
there's probably a few places that know what they're doing.
Adam Curry: So are we gonna we're gonna have time to have
dinner next week before I head back.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Wednesday would be Wednesday. Shut up
already. Science. Yeah,
Adam Curry: there's this the wind change from the north. And
there's you can you can even track it on Google Earth, I have
the cloud layer, which is fantastic to look at. It's
coming down directly from the north from Scandinavia. And it's
like a low pressure system just by me it dropped about an hour
ago, the temperature went from 15 degrees Celsius to about
eight and, and hail started forming. And so it should be
snowing within the next five hours or so.
John C Dvorak: Oh, nice.
Adam Curry: That's crazy. Nice.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I understand it's largely due to
the fact that Al Gore came out of his hole and saw his own
shadow.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, man, when the we've had weather,
I mean, global warming. How can you buy it? When does it start?
You know, supposed to be happening now. It's it's only
gotten cold, April.
John C Dvorak: Climate change now go really global warming,
depending on who you talk to. So I just, you know, there was a
report that was reported. I think Nature magazine, some guy
wrote an editorial saying that they did the GRI data, they keep
redoing the calculations issue. There's no way no matter what we
do, we can't stop the climate so much as they say. It's just a
cycle.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it goes up it goes down. It's the earth is
built. Well, let's not even get into this because I don't want
to deal with the email. There's some some things we say man on
the show that just generates so much email. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look
it up. It's science that hey, I'm making fish in my
John C Dvorak: pond. Why would we. But I'm watching. I started
off the beginning of the week with watching Bill Maher. And
they're going on in it and then all out of the blue. There's
talking about some green thing and all the blue out of the blue
Bill Margot's. When there's one other thing we need to talk
about, which is meat. People eat too much meat and meat uses so
much grain and all the grain and he just straight doesn't talk
about grass fed which is really the trend in beef, you know
today is people want don't want grain fed beef, they want grass
fed when most of these that means a cow can graze on a you
know, otherwise useless field. And you know, actually, it's
part of a cycle. It's very important for them to exist
there. The Buffalo used to do that, like the Netherlands has.
You eat grass? And you know, so where's the grain thing coming
in, but it's part of the propaganda. So Mark goes off the
deep end, like some vegetarian nut ball, about all how they how
this is the worst thing in the world. So meanwhile, a couple of
days later, I'm watching a green report on on one of our local
stations, channel 11 in San Francisco Bay Area, and they
have this green unit report and and they have special logos and
some screwball correspondents that look like a bunch of green
report to Green report. Sorry, you know, so they bring on these
kinds of, you know, looks like vegetarian vegans. And so a
woman comes on and she goes and then the real problem is meat.
And she brings up the meat thing again, she does that and then
you hurt them. No, wasn't affected. They eat a bunch of
grain, but that there, this, this is the this one here which
is always like an eye roller. This because they fart, and they
give off all this methane and this the methane from the cows
that are causing, it's causing global warming. And it's like,
Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard this every time I hear
this. What are you? criminally insane? Even bringing this up?
Throw
Adam Curry: that person in jail? Not Wesley Snipes, are you nuts?
So
John C Dvorak: anyway, and but this is all part of this Green
Week. And it's just like, this seems to be some vegetarian
undercurrent, you know, with the whole thing. And it's just makes
you sick to watch it because it's like, obvious propaganda.
And the news reporters say nothing about especially this
idiotic methane thing from the cows. They say no, by the way,
if they stop feeding him grain, they probably have less farting,
just grass fed, but that's beside the point. But anyway,
there's nobody brings anything in nobody questions, any of
this. They just pair it, whatever. It's just shows up
from whoever's behind the whole thing. We went, I'm suspicious
of that. And I find the whole thing just incredibly annoying.
It is. And I think myself clear. I'm Yeah,
Adam Curry: I love it when you get pissed off? Well, science is
true. Okay, then let me start right off the bat with a trend,
which is huge protests in Europe over the price of gasoline, and
in particular Diesel. Have you followed this at all?
John C Dvorak: Heard about, but the diesel thing has fascinated
me because even at the even here, it started about a year
ago, I noticed this. And I used to work as a petroleum chemist.
So you have to, you know,
Adam Curry: you have to understand these things. Well, I
John C Dvorak: mean, I kind of get part of it. But this,
there's a baffling aspect to it. Because this is not a normal
situation. But about a year ago, the price of diesel started
sneaking up and it became the same price as premium right?
Gasoline
Adam Curry: i Well, I've made a study. And I know why, at least
in Europe, I know why it's happening. All right, go. So
first of all, you have a regular increase just in the in the raw
materials. So the price of a barrel of oil is going up. But
what all these governments have done. And there was a big
protest in the UK two days ago, the French fishermen are
protesting. They're cutting off the Atlantic or whatever the
hell is that all these governments have put extra tax
co2 emission tax on diesel. And, and it's an extra tax because
and of course, I don't think this is true, because they say
well, diesel engines, you know, they spew out much more co2,
which of course, is related directly back to this global
warming meme that is out there. And I think that I don't know if
that's the same in the States. But in Europe, that's exactly
what's happened. And that's why their price has been driven up
so far.
John C Dvorak: I don't know of any increased tax on diesel fuel
in the US, the prices snuck up to the price of premium. And
then it started creeping above it. And now it's like 10, or 20
cents higher than premium gasoline. And it makes
absolutely no sense whatsoever in insofar as the carbon
footprint of diesel,
Adam Curry: which of course, is probably not true. I mean, I
think
John C Dvorak: a lot of particulates from diesel fuel
more than anything, but it tends to be I don't see that as just
producing more co2 to be I mean, just I don't see it. I, I don't
know I have to I'm gonna have to do a little reading and see what
the heck's going on because it doesn't make any sense. Well,
Adam Curry: what is happening is it's making everyone's
livelihood kind of hard. Because you know, when you get an
increase like that, and you're in your basic you know, the
basics of your business if you're if you're a trucker or if
you if you need diesel for any other reason, then you know,
that's that's a real big problem that's straight to your bottom
line.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's passed often to customers and so
it's a really issue. I think the only people that benefit from
this and I'm starting to notice this now. And this is kind of
weird to there may be some connection. I saw an ad the
other day yesterday as a matter of fact for for the railroads.
They've been advertising on the radio for a while but now I'm
seeing TV ads bragging about how much you know they can carry
like tons of stuff for a nickel you know and this like I'm
seeing why I've never seen I have never seen in my life that
I can think of ads for railway transportation for you know, for
products that just watching this going, huh? Yeah,
Adam Curry: in fact, if anything has only been commercials for
for transport of people.
John C Dvorak: Well, here actually, you don't see that
even that is I guess there's some Amtrak occasional Amtrak
commercials but no, this was transporting cars in particular,
but you could tell it what they were getting at. They were
talking about Tom, what is it cost per mile to move a ton, and
it's like a lot cheaper than it is with a truck. So I don't know
there's something screwy going on. I'm sure it will come out
eventually. That's
Unknown: science. And science is one cold hearted bitch with a 14
inch strap on. This is a
John C Dvorak: great thing about actually modern media and
blogging and and modern magazines that use calm It's
because you, you can roll out like the most scurrilous piece
of information that you know is true. I mean, global warming
falls into this category that michael craig, by the way, so,
you know, Michael Creighton came out it you know, and he's I saw
his last interview with Charlie Rose, I have a copy, I should
give it like to slow his interviews. And he says he knew
he was gonna get slammed for this. But he says he thinks as
far as he concerns a crock of crap. But you know, you could
have evidence that it's a crock of crap, but because people have
subscribed, they have subscribed their personality. In other
words, it's almost like, you know, when I've always felt this
way with, you know, this Mac versus PC thing that happened
where it began in 1984. And, and really never ended. And you
criticize a Macintosh. And the person who has subscribed to the
Macintosh by buying one and thinking is really good. They
think you're criticizing them. Yep. they've internalized people
have internalized outside information. And and this is a
form of materialism that is very destructive to one's
personality. And this type of materialism can take the form of
being materialistic about information. So you are totally
you've bought in to something to such an extreme that if anybody
says it might, you might be that the information might be
invalid, you defend the information, even if it isn't
valid, because you are 100% in this is not healthy. Science.
Adam Curry: So the handyman he's been with this house for many,
many years, which is good, you know, because it's his house.
Exactly. And he and he did the the most recent remodeling with
all the new plumbing and everything. So now, he knows how
everything works. He's got the, you know, all the bugs, he knows
where it is. So that's great. And he says something to me that
I was like, really. And here it is on page to the inside way at
the bottom and find small tiny print of the Financial Times.
The United Kingdom has experienced its coldest start to
winter in more than 30 years. Experts said yesterday. There
you go my friend, global global warming at its finest. Actually,
John C Dvorak: I'm supposed to be up in Washington today. But
I'm not because the the coldest front ever to hit the state. I
know. I predicted to be the coldest days ever in Washington
State or today. And
Adam Curry: there's an ice storm on the East Coast. That's global
warming for you. We're all going to die.
John C Dvorak: And it's snowing in Houston. It was snowing in
New Orleans. So
Adam Curry: of course, that's where they spun it into into
climate change. But you know that, but you know, it's very
important and very relevant to this very moment, Thursday and
Friday, in Europe. The ministers all got together and they had
their big powwow. And, you know, they've essentially built up the
the next phase of regulation that will have around finance
and environment. They are now linked with these carbon
credits. Yep. Nice. I told you it was common. So I know you and
this carbon credits. Everything is going to be linked to carbon
credit. I'm
John C Dvorak: told Yeah. Because carbon credits are a
guilt free version of tax. Yeah, exactly. And you're paying taxes
and you're supposed to feel good about it. Well
Adam Curry: know what the analogy is paying paying a thin
person monies to you don't have to go on a diet. It's stupid.
Because there's all that anyone ever talks about is is you know,
the credits, you buy the credits, you buy the credits,
but it doesn't actually reduce anything because somewhere
someone has to produce less carbon emissions to fulfill the
credit that you've purchased. Everyone's just buying the
credits. That's what it's all about. And they've got it all
tricked out. Man. You Eastern.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, can we're not doing this? How can we don't
have some sort of a deal with the US? No, you and me a carbon
Adam Curry: deal?
John C Dvorak: Why aren't we selling credits? I
Adam Curry: mean, I'm telling you, this is total, we should
totally be doing this. Because these credit these carbon credit
exchanges are popping up everywhere. Like, it reminds me
a lot in the mid 90s of we at the time we had made Easton Mae
West a member everyone was I built a knock, I built a knock
in Amsterdam for Christ's sake, it was the thing to do to have
an exchange of bandwidth. This is the next the next thing you
got to have an exchange of carbon credits. We can run it on
an Excel spreadsheet. Google on a Google spreadsheet, something
like that.
John C Dvorak: And what kills me is I was on a website the other
day says would you like to, to buy carbon credits to visit this
site or something?
Adam Curry: So So while this is taking place, this sort of just
took place this two day meeting, where they decide okay, they're
gonna put 200 billion euros into the European economy, even
though that's only half of what Germany has to put in and is
failing with in its own country by itself. But then they have
all these carbon credits, which is essentially about a 30
billion euro tax which is going to be levied on on corporations
new tax. And there are over 600 scientists who are preparing now
to sue Al Gore over and the IPCC over there, bogus climate change
global warming report, which of course, almost gets zero press
anywhere, but 600 PhDs, dude, I mean, this is this is serious
business.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, you know what the reason is, is
because I think they have been making this claim. And you and I
run into it all the time and people that ever do when we
talked about on the show somebody right away, you don't
know, the IPCC said this and that, and why are you even
making these assertions? Yeah. And I think a lot of people, a
lot of scientists,
Adam Curry: are you telling me that people in our artists
actually use the word assertions?
John C Dvorak: Well, that those particular people
Adam Curry: just want to make sure.
John C Dvorak: I very rarely use the word.
Adam Curry: I like it, though. We should use that more often,
John C Dvorak: as we should anyway. So. So I think there's a
lot of people out there who are, you know, probably, you know,
the the climatologist, or they're experts in some way,
shape, or form. And they have been put into the same sack
because of this notion that everybody agrees. Everybody
agrees,
Adam Curry: the discussion is over, we have consensus.
Everybody's
John C Dvorak: more than consensus, everybody, everybody,
nobody disagrees with this. Not one single person. So you're a
PhD, who maybe has some thoughts on it, and you have some other
kinds of data. And your friends come up to you at the cocktail
party. And they go on about putting you pigeon holing you
with this, but it's even
Adam Curry: worse. It's even worse. If you do that as a PhD
or researcher, your research funding gets pulled. That's why
people are so quiet about it, because they're afraid that
their money is going to go away.
John C Dvorak: But the lawsuits law diamond, I think the more
people should join the lawsuit, there's I'm sure there's more
than 600 debt are irked about this.
Adam Curry: In fact, there's about 30,000, I believe, but
that's not all PhDs. These are just the PhDs, the business and
Media Institute. I've no idea who they are. But this is a
story I just got, oh,
John C Dvorak: we'll get to know who they are. They're a bunch of
a right wing nuts that don't believe in any of this stuff.
Okay, is that true? No, no, no, I'm just gonna.
Adam Curry: Well, they have data, they have data, so I'm
just going to presume the data is right for the sake of
argument, the business and Media Institute analyzed 205 network
news stories about global warming or climate change.
Between July 1 2007 and December 31 2007. They found that only
20% of the stories even mentioned there were any
alternative opinions to the so called consensus on the issues.
And this just goes on and on and on. About how you know, it's
pretty much the media just jumped on and said, Okay, we're
all gonna die. Hey, roll some of those polar bear footage. Come
on. Let's head out. That's good shit.
John C Dvorak: I should bleeds it leads. Exactly.
Adam Curry: So CBS was the worst. Has 151 People used by
the network to promote global warming, hysteria. And 28 people
who even questioned it somewhat.
John C Dvorak: So watch
Adam Curry: that it's not a question
John C Dvorak: Did someone well, you know, it's bullshit. Yeah.
And
Adam Curry: it's amazing what's taking place. Our financial
system is going to be based on this lie. And granted Hey, I'm
all for saving the Earth. I'm all for less pollution. No doubt
about it.
John C Dvorak: About China they're polluting California
from a distance. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Now, there's plenty we can do and should be doing
but this whole idea of buying credits so that you can continue
to pollute that somewhere someone down the line like my
children's children's children will then apparently have to
produce less they're talking about plants a tree did a talk
talking about a 20% reduction promised by all all of the EU in
carbon emissions 20% Nice,
Unknown: good else groom tell your fake internet girlfriend,
you're gonna be AFK for about 10 minutes. Because it's
motherfucking Science Time.
Adam Curry: You blog the Gideon Rachman story in the Financial
Times. He's a columnist and he said he was talking about you
know the possibility of you know tongue in cheek article about
the New World Order, etc. Alright, that guy? Yeah, that
guy. There's a follow up to that. I was wondering like your
power.
John C Dvorak: Don't you know him? No, no, no, no.
Adam Curry: You've got to read his follow up. that he posted on
his blog, I'll just I'll just read you the conclusion. Because
he knew what happened is he says I couldn't believe the amount of
email that he got. From, you know, from from out there. He
says, you know, hundreds of pieces of email, here's his
conclusions. There's an undeniable amount of anger and
hatred out there directed everything from the United
Nation to Knight United Nations to big business to Barack Obama.
These people can't read can read, but they cannot think he
says, so. He's not my buddy, dude. It gets worse. The End of
Days crowd is very strong. I would say that about a third of
the emails I got referred me to the book of Revelation, in which
apparently all it is all foretold. Three, there's a lot
of people who believe not only that global warming is a hoax,
but that it is actually a conspiracy. The fact that the
most influential reports on climate change had been produced
by an intergovernmental panel, the IPCC, sponsored by the UN
fuels this theory. The idea is that the UN is perpetuating a
climate change hoax to provide an excuse to impose a world
government on America. I am a part of it, apparently, he says,
totally, boldly. Anyway, so he winds up he does have a funny
line at the end here, something positive has come out of this
experience. If the newspaper industry really goes down the
pan, I now have a business plan. I will claim to be a former
member of the Bilderberg Illuminati Council on Foreign
Relations, un Zionist establishment and write a book
revealing the inside story of a plot to form a world government,
it will sell millions in
Unknown: the face of overwhelming odds, I'm left with
only one option. I'm gonna have to science the shit out of this.
John C Dvorak: Obama picks climate specialist as science
advisor. Don't
Adam Curry: even get me started on that one. Yeah, I think so. I
haven't been able to find the link. But somewhere I heard
somewhere I read someone that said, Al Gore said these colder
periods are entirely indicative of global warming.
John C Dvorak: I know I get it every time we we bring this up
on the show quite a bit. I love doing it. We just get an email
from somebody saying it's natural to be colder during
global warming. You know, it's yeah, of course it is. Makes
nothing but sense.
Adam Curry: It's natural for it to be colder during global
warming. Yes, I understand. I totally get it. So. So that's
that is quite interesting.
John C Dvorak: I think it was said to be the note, he said
also says that he says global warming climate change, they're
trying to change the term themselves, is going to result
in really weird erratic weather. And I'm thinking because I don't
know I mean, if you start reading the I, because I did
this as a project, once I read all in New York Times newspapers
from about 1858 to about 1868. How
Adam Curry: long did that take? You?
John C Dvorak: Took a long time, it took a number of months. And
I was collecting stories may or may not have been the period
might have been from 18 6080 to 78. But it was it was during the
around the Civil War. And and I'm not sure I think yeah, I
think it was I think the times was in business. And I think it
was at the time I was reading. And it was I was looking at all
the articles
Adam Curry: that you read the originals, of course, when they
came out in 1886. So of course, but
John C Dvorak: my mom threw them away. So anyway. So I'm reading
this and they were talking about erratic weather. I mean, if you
start reading the history of weather in the United States,
it's been erratic since day one, you know, storms of frogs, you
know, it'd be something happened in North Dakota, and it's just
like rain frogs, you know, all over the place. And, you know, I
guess there were frogs, I knew people who had this immunity
couldn't get outside without stepping out a bunch of frogs
that were raining down for some unknown reason. Nobody even knew
where the frogs came from. And I mean, I remember that one
distinctly going, which is a real head shaker. And there's
all kinds of, you know, weird to have in the Mormon legend about
the those locusts if you've ever seen one of those bugs that the
big ones monsters scare size of a rat. Yeah, they're scary. And
apparently they came in, you know, in some weather situation,
and they just gobbled up the state of Utah, which is still a
desert. And, I mean, this is nothing new. This erratic
weather we've had the biggest hurricanes we've had in the
past. And there's a hurricane that hit Connecticut some, you
know, around the turn of the century or sometime in the, you
know, I think it was like, I can't remember the date, but it
was 100 years ago. And so this is bull. I mean, you know,
there's right now it's snowing in
Adam Curry: Vegas. In Vegas. It's snowing. It's snowing in
Vegas.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's snowing in Vegas. Just weather's
what we have science. So
Adam Curry: weather wise, we are freezing our tits off here in
the United Kingdom.
John C Dvorak: In cooking here in Northern California, God in
the Netherlands.
Adam Curry: They're now they do this whenever it really, really
gets cold and I haven't heard this chatter for at least a
decade. But then they start threatening with cranking up the
11 city natural ice canal race, which is famous famous in the
Netherlands, where, you know, it's all done a naturalized on
canals, under and around bridges and it's 11 cities, it's
hundreds of kilometers, you know, people lose their, their
toes, their fingers, their lives, but it's, it's a huge,
huge cultural deal. And I hope it happens again, but just goes
to show that there's some funky going on.
John C Dvorak: I know they do that in Ottawa city. Because
they don't, you know, it's not as always freezing. But
Adam Curry: this is like Han This is the legend of Hans
Brinker in the silver skates right this is what that is
about. This is that story.
John C Dvorak: So it freezes that bad that that that those
all those canals get frozen over? Well, it hasn't. It
Adam Curry: was only Well, you know, it was only one freezing
over an hour or No, no, no, it's it's the freezing is really
started now. So now everyone's talking about cranking up the
competition. But the last time you know, it had been a while
until of course the Al Gore proclaimed global warming that's
when you know, luckily we have the the 11th city you can always
come back
John C Dvorak: to I'm reminded of the I've always said to
people, you know, the day that the term paperless office was
coined. If you'd invested in paper mills, right, then you'd
been make a fortune, you would have made a fortune.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, my dad always says the paperless
office is as likely as the paperless toilet science, so
much mainstream media attention being paid to stuff like this
stupid Spaghetti Monster hitting the wind turbine and no, we've
got to space sounds from outer space. And Obama wants to
accelerate and put us on the moon like Didn't we already see
that movie before? But anyway, we're gonna get on the moon. I'm
thinking that
John C Dvorak: Obama is a fractal of Kennedy. Right?
Adam Curry: Well, he will. here's the here's the scenario.
The scenario is, you know, of course, there's more and more
descent coming from amongst the slaves saying wait a minute
global warming. Yeah, okay, we got to protect Earth but hold on
a second. What are all these taxes for this unproven theory
of yours? And what they're going to do next is they're going to
have space aliens communicate to us and tell us that we're
killing our world and carbon credits are good for us
something like that is in the works.
John C Dvorak: I like it. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: mean, I gonna be
John C Dvorak: a hard one to pull off. Are you kidding me? If
any amania equity would think that that could work? Okay, I am
in outer space and we must tell you Earth means science. The
news let me get to the story because breaking as we speak
those who come in one after another Wait a minute. Wait a
minute. What breaking
Adam Curry: news this is no agenda. We have breaking news.
John Cena with Jim Brown.
John C Dvorak: Breaking breaking news in this case is the no pun
intended because we're talking about cow flatulence again. And
sheep belching so there's a breaking aspect to it. Okay, hit
apparently according to all these articles that just showed
up. In fact, in today's Wall Street Journal, it turns out
that sheep belching may account for 12% of manmade global
warming.
Adam Curry: Okay, this isn't the Wall Street Journal you say?
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: today's Wall Street Journal big story on
sheep belching because the sheep apparently belch methane. And
then if I was looking this up a little bit, and it looked at
according to one story 12% of Australian greenhouse gases come
from livestock flatulence again, another breaking story me was
I'm looking at all these different these stories and I
write in you if you start scratching the surface of global
warming or as they now call it climate change because you know,
they did the other word is was getting ready wasn't
Adam Curry: it wasn't working anymore. It
John C Dvorak: wasn't working. But I like it. I still like it
global warming, it sounds better. So if you scratch the
surface of it, you keep coming up with the same thing. Vegans
with an agenda and vegetarians is though somebody came up with
this neat idea some years ago that if you blame, you know, if
you get on this global warming kick, then you can attack the
livestock because at some point, you know, because of their
belching and farting, there's you could attribute global
warming to them. And so I run into the newspaper in Ontario
called the standard St. Catharines. The town St.
Catharines standard and I think they headline kind of like says
it all and it's about global warming, but the headline is, we
need to solve the now quote marks meet problem Ah,
Adam Curry: yes, I have a meet problem that I need solving to
and you can email me And this is unbelievable. But it makes so
much sense. Because, you know, we know that this satellite
failed to separate from the payload from the cone. How
ironic. Yeah, this was the big fail. This was the satellite
that was actually going to measure the sheep belching and
cow flatulence is a part of manmade climate change from
space. You know, it's out of control.
John C Dvorak: And wonder what was going on during the era
where the entire western plains are covered with millions and
millions and millions of bison?
Adam Curry: Well, they surely you know that bison, they must
already know they don't fart man. Now, by the way, I have
done a quite a bit of sheep sharing in my day, when I was
much younger, we lived just south of Amsterdam, and a small
farming village. And it was a lot of fun, really, you know,
the old fashioned way? With shears. And I have held many
sheep between my legs. There's a great drop for you. I've held
many sheep between my legs, but I've never heard one belch ever.
Have you? Well, no,
John C Dvorak: actually, we have a sheep.
Adam Curry: And does he belt?
John C Dvorak: I have never noticed it. Maybe when they go
by? That's actually a belt?
Adam Curry: Well, I think I can tie a couple things
John C Dvorak: together. Sounds like a belt,
Adam Curry: the meat problem. I like that, that you've latched
on to that. Cuz I've it hit me earlier this week. That the
smart grid. It has it of course it has to do with energy power.
But it has to do with a lot more. And I started looking into
it into the smart grid. Now a lot of the money for the smart
grid will be dished out by an outfit call. I'm sure you've
heard of them the western area Power Administration.
John C Dvorak: Have you heard of them? No, actually, I haven't
heard of them. Okay,
Adam Curry: wow. Well, the Western Power a western area
Power Administration. I'll read I'm just reading from their
website wapa.gov part of the government the part of the
Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, which, of course is the
the big stimulus package. It grants the western area Power
Administration, the authority to borrow up to 3.2 5 billion from
the US Treasury has a whole bunch of basically, they hand
out the grants. And so as I'm looking through, you know, just
going down as deep as I can write
John C Dvorak: any grants we can get?
Adam Curry: Well, interesting. So they they're handing out a
lot of money to GE and IBM. These are the two corporations
who are going to receive most of this Smart Grid money. And IBM
writes about Well, here's a little piece from IBM as it as
it pertains to their grant. The world is becoming instrumented
by 2010, there will be a billion trends, transistors per human,
each one costing one 10,000,000th of ascent. The
world is becoming interconnected with a trillion network things
cars, roadways, pipelines, appliances, pharmaceuticals, and
even livestock. The amount of information created by those
interactions grows exponentially. And as you look
through it, a part of this smart grid will be tracking livestock.
Ah, so of course, how do you track lives and also livestock
feed, I'm sure it's going to be a part of it. So when you track
livestock is very simple because even my pets are chipped. They
all have a little chip inserted, and it's an RFID RFID chip, and
they can they can track each individual piece of meat while a
part of the meat problem. The science says Did you know that
Gordon Brown was in Washington did any of that reach you amidst
all of this proposition eight and Britney Spears news?
John C Dvorak: We all we know is that apparently Gordon Brown was
supposed to meet with Obama and Obama says it's snowing so they
call the snow day.
Adam Curry: app really? Oh man,
John C Dvorak: and they never had the meeting as well. I mean,
that's the last I heard maybe they had the meeting sense.
Well, this.
Adam Curry: There were a couple of snow days being called Nancy
Pelosi was supposed to speak at the Al Gore Tony Blair was there
at the Global Warming conference. Of course, she got
snowed out couldn't couldn't land. The Global Warming
conference.
John C Dvorak: Global warming, no doubt.
Unknown: And do you have any idea who this man is? Yes, we
have. It appears their agenda is political. I don't care what
their agenda is. This is science. I won't be scared into
not doing my research.
Adam Curry: This man is not your normal radical Prince Charles
who just want I thought the guy was going to be Okay. From AP,
Britain's Prince Charles warned on Thursday mankind has 100
months or less to save the planet from a climate cause
disaster.
John C Dvorak: Didn't they say this? Like a couple of years
ago?
Adam Curry: 100 months or less?
John C Dvorak: Here's what bothers me. We had a story that
we have one, we have a climate change junkie on the blog. He's
always every time you post any skepticism, he posts something
else. It's says we're all doomed. But the one that gets me
is the more recent mention of this guy, climate change expert
Nicholas Stern, who's told 2000 climate scientists meeting in
Copenhagen that they failed to clearly tell humanity what it
faces if global temperatures reached the upper range of
forecasts made by the IPCC, which is what we have united we
started all this Yeah, united in are in the United Nations in our
government Panel for Climate Change and destroying all
Western economies as should be the real title. He says there's
been a lot of scientific evidence he goes on and on, he
says, new findings show that these projections were vastly
understated. And everyone who is worse than we thought, what am I
thinking when I read this stuff? It? Can't you get this right. I
mean, it's like worse than retires better than retires
worse than we thought. Where are the numbers are so solid? Why do
they keep upgrading and changing them and in flux? I mean, in
other words, if we're so solidly, you know, we have
strong evidence that's irrefutable. And everyone
agrees. Well, did everyone agree that it just changed? I can't
Adam Curry: believe that Prince Charles is not on the front page
of every single newspaper with this. Listen to what he's
saying. The best projections tell us that we have less than
100 months to alter our behavior before we risk catastrophic
climate change and the unimaginable horrors that this
would bring. What are those horrors you asked John? Any
difficulties which the world faces today will be nothing
compared to the full effects which global warming will have
on the worldwide economy. He said, it will result in vast
movements of people escaping either flooding or droughts,
droughts, in uncertain production of foods and lack of
water and of course, increasing social instability and potential
conflict. It will affect the well being of every man, woman
and child on our planet. What's happening is the science is
screaming at us. And the papers here again, the George monad
Monbiot
John C Dvorak: from The Guardian, guys, a communist, he
wrote
Adam Curry: a book, someone sent me a link to his book on Amazon,
do you are you familiar with his book? No. manifesto of a new for
a new world order. I swear to God, it's a big red book
manifesto for a new world order. Okay.
John C Dvorak: You know, I read that guy, and I just makes it's
one of the few writers I don't remember that much. But I run
into his stuff. Because he, you know, he's in The Guardian, you
know, which is a red paper. And so I'm reading this stuff, and I
look, it's just it's so I can see where some people maybe
don't like my commentary about the Macintosh. Because you
actually started your blood starts to boil about halfway
through, it mainly begun his case because I know how to write
propaganda. And I can see him using this technique. It's just
befuddled the poor reader
Adam Curry: article from The Telegraph who are on to this.
What's worrying the globalists are all the signs that the
world's politicians coverage on Copenhagen in December to
discuss the successor to the Kyoto Protocol under the
guidance of the UN, IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change, there'll be so much disagreement, that they
won't be able to get more drastic measures to cut carbon
emissions. So the name of the game last week, according to
this article, as we see from a sample of quotations was to win
headlines by claiming everything is far worse than previously
suppose, sea level rises by 2100 could be much greater than the
59 centimeters predicted by the last IPCC report, global warming
could kill off 85% of the Amazon rainforest much more than
previously predicted, the ice caps in Greenland and Antarctica
are melting much faster than predicted, the number of people
dying from heat could be twice as many as predicted. This is
out of control. So
John C Dvorak: what they've actually saying here as again,
which I brought up in the last show, is that they don't know
what they're talking about. No, they they're all the predictions
are wrong. Why aren't they wrong again? I don't know what the
hell they're doing. Read
Adam Curry: this article from The Telegraph. It's in the show
notes. It will open up your eyes. There was a there was a
whole bunch of dignitaries were in New York at a climate
conference, including the current president of the EU, the
crazy Czech guy who says global warming is a hoax. And no one
reported on us No, no one not a
John C Dvorak: single report. This is why the newspapers are
folding. Yeah, because I mean because they suck. They why
don't we get you know, I mean you get sick everything is like
directed. It's like there's somebody orchestrating
everything and the newspapers are part of the orchestration.
So we don't get a broad spectrum of opinion. It's all targeted.
You know, everything has got to be this way. It's got to be that
was all knee jerk. It's unbelievable to me. And then
these guys have moaning and groaning about losing their
jobs. Yeah, well, how about how about you just take it in and
we're talking about something
Adam Curry: else I'm waiting for and it is possibly could happen.
I'm waiting for the first bailout of a newspaper. You
watch that's how crazy this world has become. The government
will bail out even though that would be unconstitutional.
John C Dvorak: It's gonna have would be unconstitutional. I'm
sorry. Yeah, it has to be unconstitutional.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Like like the Constitution means anything
these
John C Dvorak: they bail out the Catholic Church.
Adam Curry: Still no. No extra reporting on Baxter
International.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. There we go. There's another thing.
Where's these are these stories? I think there was one story and
MSNBC had. Yeah, somebody sent us the link or you sent it to
me? Yeah. The
Adam Curry: vaccine International, which purposely
mixed up flu vaccination with bird flu virus and they have now
admitted it was a live virus.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they had mixed up the regular flu vaccine
vaccine with a live bird flu virus. And coincidentally, this
is the only company that has a vaccine for bird flu. No, no,
Adam Curry: it's not the only company. I've got
John C Dvorak: one of the companies that has a stockpile
of bird flu deals in place billions of dollars. First,
you've got to infect the public. Yeah, otherwise
Adam Curry: you can't sell it.
John C Dvorak: Because bird flu doesn't seem to be catching on.
Adam Curry: No, it's the meme is not traveling fast enough yet.
Powered by science. We didn't talk about this on the last
show, although it was Oh current at the moment. Lawmakers started
earlier this week. That would be you know, like people in
Congress and people who you supposedly elected and are
supposedly doing shit for you. They're starting to have
hearings about the energy and global warming bill that would
of course revolutionize the way we produce and use energy and
how we're taxed for it. And the last time we had this type of
bill was acid rain I guess was the scam at the time. And some
actually the smog we got rid of a lot of the smog which is why
people are buying into this crap. So the laws are coming and
that they will be taxable and you'll be paying taxes on
anything any use of carbon that what a scam make the pig with
genetically modified pigness and then charge people for the pig
farts I mean, these guys got it so locked down
John C Dvorak: whatever happened to acid rain, acid
Adam Curry: rain, acid rain wasn't it didn't you know it was
a meme and it went away and
John C Dvorak: I remember that acid rain me because I remember
one of the 60 minutes shows they're saying all the statues
of Italy are all dissolving
Adam Curry: was FoxNews around them? I didn't know that.
John C Dvorak: Like 60 minutes it was like some report of acid
rains dissolving all the statues of Europe and you just imagining
these things dissolving and then they find some old statue that
was all screwed up look and say look what happened
Adam Curry: yeah, oh, you had the great ice age that was
coming we had all of that. Oh and
John C Dvorak: coincidental thing that's good because that's
interesting to me. That the that is the climatologist which is a
fairly new discipline once they got hold of this global warming
thing they started getting money they weren't they had just have
in their grasp there's not gonna let this baby go like
Adam Curry: hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars in
research research grants and all kinds of dough of course yeah,
no warming No, you should be on that shit. Absolutely no,
John C Dvorak: I don't understand why we're not we
should time promoters of this crap just to get as much money
as we can
Adam Curry: we're doing it so wrong. We should be like Jackie
Chan do like Jackie does man. Like sign out of the sell out
man just sell the heck out.
John C Dvorak: Darn. So we can't live with ourselves ladies and
gentlemen. That's why we don't do it.
Adam Curry: There's a great story on AP, which of course,
we'll get it said the guy has a book coming out next week. He's
the former Food and Drug Administration chief and command
and I'm paraphrasing this article now. But here's here's a
direct quote from him I guess in the book The food industry has
worked out what works. They know what drives people to keep on
eating. In the next great public health campaign of changing how
we view food and the food industry, it has to be a part of
it. Basically, what he's saying in this book, is how the food
industry has figured out through neuroscience, that the
combination of fat and sugar sparks up dopamine in your in
your old noggin there. That's your your little pleasure spot.
They're the same that gets hit by alcohol and other fine, fine
products available in the wild. And that essentially what this
former FDA chief is saying is you're hooked on crap and we
know it.
Unknown: That's science. And science is one cold hearted
bitch with a 14 inch strap on.
John C Dvorak: Here we go hydro power disaster for global
warming. large dams have dramatic consequences.
Ecosystems are destroyed and numerous people are made
homeless, often without adequate resettlement. But it is yet
little known that large scale hydro electricity is a major
contributor to global global warming. Reservoirs could
despite their clean image be even more devastating for our
climate and fossil fuel plants. A few years ago, I spent on
Monday it goes on and on. And now I'm thinking two things one
is this guy serious? Or and by the way, let me go to two graphs
or three graphs. This is mega mega hydro has an astrologers
record the World Commission on dams, WC D, consisting of
experts, opposition and industry was installed to produce an
independent review of large dams, the WC D estimates in
2000, that 40 to 80 million people have been displaced
worldwide. 80 million. Anyway, the seems likely, I mean, just
the number doesn't sound right. Maybe in China, whatever the
case is, this could have been, you know, this could be a piece
of propaganda put out by the oil industry, obviously to you know,
keep people on the right track that using fossil fuel. But I
don't think so I think this is actually just some typical
reactionary. In the sense of let's you know, we can't do
anything well, let's just cut you know, cover ourselves and
put us up in the cave somewhere and,
Adam Curry: and write it out. If it's not the hydro electric
power, it's bovine flatulence, flatulence.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's the cloud. So let's see the thing
that I think to me that this all this whole global warming thing
always boils down to is veganism. It it's, it's at some
point, you don't care what nutball you're watching, if
you're watching the Green Planet, they have it hauled net
channel now on the Dish Network and elsewhere called green. And
it's just a bunch of horrible shows that are self serving SF
emeralds is actually pretty good, because he's still just
cooking. You know, emerald green, get it? And then they
have a guy who does I got a disk for you, I'll send you with a
couple of these shows on it just like just like all the other
ones you sent me here. But the point at some point always
becomes vegetarianism. I mean, there's always related there's
always a vegetarian angle and they always did it gets kind of
to veganism. And let's get rid of the herds of cattle and let's
just eat you know, oats that's kind of always that element.
I've never seen anybody that that doesn't have that element
was the dragon shock there behind the whole thing PETA, the
vegans and you know the crackpots you know foods the
whole
Adam Curry: I gotta tell you I don't I don't talk bad about
PETA at all because those people frightened me to death those are
the ones that want the one they're actually killing you
know, I'm very afraid of a really radical act and look, I
love animals but there are some very very radical elements out
there in the animal activism activism space, and and they do
they kill people.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the watches people are meaningless crap.
Every day, it's all
Adam Curry: about the animals. So along the lines of global
warming, you want to hear some earth shattering news. What
scientists from the United Nations, IPCC have now
determined that the earth will be cooling for the next three
decades studies the same people that brought you global warming,
now known as climate change, quote, addressing the Washington
policy policymakers in Seattle, Washington, Dr. Don Easterbrook
said the shifting of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. That's PDO
for short, from its warm mode to its cool mode, virtually assures
global cooling for the next 25 to 30 years, and means the
global warming of the past 30 years is over the announcement
by Yes, the announcement by NASA Sir, that the PDO that's the
Pacific Decadal Oscillation has shifted from its warm mode to
its cool mode is right on schedule as predicted by past
climate and PDO changes and in the sun references, and is not
an oddity superimposed upon unmasking the predicted severe
warming by the IPCC. This has significant implications for the
future, and indicates that the IPCC climate models were wrong
in their prediction of global temperatures soaring one degree
Fahrenheit per decade for the rest of the century. But it
doesn't matter. No one else to hear about it, John, it doesn't
matter. Well, I'm
John C Dvorak: blogging it.
Adam Curry: That's what I mean. No one else will hear about Bada
John C Dvorak: bing. So the link, it's kidding me. Oh, of
course. When did that come out? These guys are just
unbelievable.
Adam Curry: 11 December 7, actually, is when this came out
John C Dvorak: came out December 7, and that we haven't and it
hasn't been, I
Adam Curry: didn't catch it until that's an arrest. But this
is this whole shifting of the poles and the solar winds and
the diminishing of the magnetism of the poles. All of this goes
back to 2002. So this is before Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth at
NASA and, and other scientists were saying, Oh, this will
change the climate. It could make it warmer or cooler. But
they were literally saying it's that that is the cause not
manmade, it's all over the news. Now. It's mainstream
publications just now. It's no one's doing anything with it.
Yeah, maybe but we're still all gonna die if we don't stop our
cows from farting and stop generating power from the ocean
stop eating meat here
John C Dvorak: was basically where it boils down to stop
eating meat. Because there are animals I mean, this is people
of course with anthropomorphize the, you know, the all animals
from my wife has it there is because they watched too many
Disney cartoons. With all these talking animals.
Unknown: Usually sounding a lot like Eddie Murphy. In the face
of overwhelming odds I'm left with only one option. I'm going
to have to science the shit out of this
Adam Curry: you have something called fat people clip
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, well, this is what we can save this
for another real new segment or we can do this one out. This is
what this is interesting. This kind of changes the direction of
the shoulder a bit. But this is a news report that came out like
a week ago. Now it and you know everything has to have a global
warming angle. So now that this is an actual news report that
was done on I think it was k I think was either key. I think it
was the the KPI name is KPI x and in San Francisco, and
they're blaming
Adam Curry: sorry, then I'm sorry, I just started the clip.
Premature at all. Okay,
John C Dvorak: play the clip. Kip doe on why researchers say
obesity is bad for the environment.
Unknown: Obesity and global warming both heavy topics now
linked by a new study from the London School of Hygiene and
Tropical Medicine. It says people who weigh more tend to
drive more and eat and all that food. It's shipped on average
1500 miles from where it's grown to your plate that people
researchers contend are killing the planet than those who are
fit alright finally
Adam Curry: something I can stand behind now you're talking
kill the fat people this is good now that we're really in doesn't
doesn't
John C Dvorak: and the funny thing about this reported which
went a lot longer, by the way, I didn't want to play the whole
thing by there was a bunch of puns and droughts around because
the reporter couldn't take it too seriously. And then
throughout the report, all they showed was the fattest people
imaginable. The TV guys love to show this. And you know, you
never see their heads. It's just either a shot of their big
they're badass. Yeah, or their big gut that's hanging over
bouncing off their knees. But what people
Adam Curry: got to realize that this is exactly where we're
headed. And yeah, we'd laugh about it now. But it's no joking
matter because they literally the they're already doing it in
the United Kingdom with the with parents, you know, they can take
your kids away from you if they're obese or if they're
deemed obese. And they're going to do it under all of these all
of these new rules and regulations. You know, Hey, man,
you're too fat, you're killing the planet. You're You're anti
socialist, anti social behavior. We got to cite you for that. And
by the way, look at this lovely camp. We have all set up once
you come over here, and we'll train that all off.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So what else you got on your list? I'm
looking
Adam Curry: for the audio, or preferably video. So I'm not
going to read this whole thing because I have the transcript.
But I'll do it on our next show. Maybe someone can help me find
the find the actual source material of Al Gore lying to
Congress. Representative Blackburn was questioning Al
Gore at the Global Warming legislation hearings, which you
know, we talked about this. So now watch out because here it
comes here come all the taxes on on everything that emits carbon
including the actual words coming out of your cakehole. And
and he talks I guess it's a he right Blackburn. Thanks. Thanks.
So he, he talks Gore completely into a corner basically making
him say or admit that he is profiting from from all of his
green initiatives. And a it's just reading the transcript.
It's it's beautiful. But what happens is, so here it is. I'll
just read this. So you're a partner at a venture capital
firm. They've invested $1,000,000,000.40 companies that
are going to benefit from cap and trade legislation. Remember
that? So is the legislation that we're discussing here today, is
that something you are personally going to benefit
from? And then the transcript goes, Al Gore sigh. I believe
that the transition to a green economy is good for our economy
and good for all of us. And I've invested in
John C Dvorak: having to listen your voice to make that really
work. And I can just see him saying just like, well,
Adam Curry: I know that that's what that's exactly why I want
to have the real source material that I have invested in it.
John C Dvorak: But every penny that I can't do not even know,
Adam Curry: everybody that I've made, I've put into a nonprofit,
the Alliance for Climate Protection to spread awareness
of why we have to take on this challenge. And and Congresswoman
de gauche, Congresswoman, if you're if you believe the reason
that I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of
greed. You don't know me? And then Blackburn comes back says
No, sir. I'm not making accusations. I'm asking
questions that have been asked of me and individuals
constituents, that we're seeking a point of clarity. So I'm
asking, and then out and then so here it comes. Every penny that
I've made has gone to it my nonprofit, every penny from the
movie, the book, from any investments from renewable
energy, I've been willing to put my money where my mouth is, do
you think there's something wrong with being active in
business in this country? So immediately throws the, you
know, is is doing business bad. So he's he's outright lying,
that it's all in nonprofit, because it's not. He's making
tons of dough off of this. And he left the White House with $2
million reportedly in his pocket. And now he so far has
invested $35 million of his own money in for profit endeavors.
And he's sitting there saying to Congress, no, no, no, no, no,
this is all nonprofit. Unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, everyone who listens to the show
know that we're no fans of Al Gore using Science News and BBC
this week. They had a complete documentary on power shift. Oh,
nine. Oh, nice. Now, power shift.org People can go out
there and check it out. It's a green activists. And
essentially, the government has taken over this this particular
conference and they loaded it up with Obama people to keynoter
was the EPA woman, Paul Podesta, that one of the staffers that
one of the major staffers, you know, second in command of one
of these other guys was the guy looked like the organizer from
the way they had this thing. structured the way they did the,
the, the show this documentary, Bill Clinton was there,
everybody was loaded up there was loaded up with these guys.
And here's what I'm sure I'm watching this thing thinking,
wow, this is just another and they got all these kids. It's a
bunch of young people. And they get them all pumped up with you
know, this green, green, green, green green stuff and you know,
global warming. And so then they jumped to showing some of the
behind the scenes seminars, you know, they always have the
breakouts go, of course. So the breakouts are training to kids
on civil disobedience, resisting arrest, how to do sit in spot
properly, how to lock arms for how to do passive resistance.
Wait a minute, let me get this straight. And I would have been
anybody who happens to be one of those people. I like to ask a
question, since when do does the government train the youth to do
these sorts of things? The first thing I saw it, I thought it was
either Nazi youth or the the young come
Adam Curry: away from it. And this was this was American youth
or British youth.
John C Dvorak: That the first thing I thought it was either
Nazi youth or the Young Communist Party, this is
training the youth. Well, when is the
Adam Curry: government really why was this British youth are
American youth. I'm confused American youth.
John C Dvorak: This was all Americans. This This show is you
know, it's a British show. But the this was in the United
States this meeting, and it was our government training kids You
did, how to do sit ins how to lock arms, how to resist arrest,
but
Adam Curry: again, there's resisting against you go.
Apparently
John C Dvorak: not a good thing because you're resisting against
big business who doesn't do what they're supposed to do? Oh my
God, that's the only thing I see. Yeah, but stunning. I was
shocked.
Adam Curry: I saw Rahm Emanuel, who was interviewed on CNBC and
I didn't see the whole interview. I just saw a
soundbite, but one of his answers was literally, you know,
we're in a fantastic place right now, where there's an
opportunity to figure out what the relationship really should
be between big business and government. I'm like, Oh, my
God, the guys just out and out saying it. They want to have
control, there's got to be some kind of takeover or some kind of
relationship.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and if they don't intervene, and if you
don't knuckle under, then they're gonna do kids are going
to be sent over there to protest sit in, you know, harass you
essentially, this is harassment. I mean, they're training the
kids to be harassers to because, you know, just people who are
new who haven't signed on to 100% of the green initiative.
And of course, the whole thing boiled down once again, because
of the keynoter and everybody else brought it up, cap and
trade cap and trade carbon credits, carbon credits cap and
trade.
Adam Curry: John Broder wrote his article seeking to save the
planet with with a thesaurus. And I just read the first couple
of paragraphs the problem with global warming some
environmentalist believes is, quote, global warming. The term
turns people off. Now we've talked about this because
remember, it went from global warming to climate change.
Listen to what's next. The term turns people off fostering
images of shaggy haired liberals economic sacrifice and complex
scientific disputes. According to extensive polling and focus
group sessions conducted by eco America, a nonprofit
environmental marketing and messaging firm in Washington.
This this is how the ships being sold to you. Oh yeah, instead of
grim warnings about global warming the firm advises to talk
about our deteriorating atmosphere, dropped discussions
of carbon dioxide and bring up moving away from the dirty fuels
of the past. Don't confuse people with Cap and Trade use
terms like cap and cashback or pollution reduction refund. I
got a hard on John, this is good stuff.
John C Dvorak: This is good stuff Pollution
Adam Curry: Reduction refund this this is what happened at
the supermarket where you're used to getting cash back you
will be capping cashing back and on your receipt you will be
congratulated for money you gave to the pollution reduction
refund
Unknown: something right.
Adam Curry: When you buy your when you buy your Monsanto
products and your semi linked to this, this is good stuff. Well
if you look at the show notes, but this is what's going
John C Dvorak: on and this kind of thing. And it's because you
know, you know people when you give your donation to
divert.org/and Uh, you have to realize that both Adam and I are
actually involved in the media in such a way that we know how
this some of these mechanisms work because we work with public
relations companies all the time and and they and the kind of
skills they have and how they do you know grassroots things that
are how they
Adam Curry: do it. I'm
Unknown: gonna show my school by donate to no agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
John C Dvorak: Yeah, wow. Cap and Trade crap and trade is that
when they said long, crushed a lot back in the day.
Adam Curry: I know. I really did. I really did. Have you
noticed how clean I am these days?
John C Dvorak: Yes, you're much cleaner right? But also the
sound varies so much because we're using Skype and we're from
different locations and and
Adam Curry: for some reason, I had a whole period there where I
really liked eco.
John C Dvorak: Like, I don't know what you're trying to get
to Mexican station.
Adam Curry: I have no idea what I was thinking like, oh, reverb,
that sounds really good. You know, and, and sometimes you'd
have a really big booming voice I remember specifically, where I
had the curry condo in San Francisco, we'd both be on
Comcast. And we would have to reconnect eight times an episode
actually one of the clips I don't remember which one I had
to cut out or reconnect because I keep saying, are you there?
Are you there? Are you there? Are you there there and then
Skype would go all like low grade, as we say,
John C Dvorak: and do this. The squishing thing to is always
taking place.
Adam Curry: And we always said it's amazing. any of this stuff
works. And it's amazing that it still works at all, honestly.
But
John C Dvorak: we do want to mention that this is not we
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. With a long donation segment, we hope.
Please,
Adam Curry: everybody, we hoped. Thank you all very much. No
agenda donations.com. And we're going to head back into it. And
we'll be back at the end of the show. Stay tuned, here comes
more climate change bullcrap. So if I look at the Grand overview
of everything that's going on, and all the horseshit that we're
following when it comes to climate change here, here's kind
of what I'm thinking. Here's the the theory that I'm working on,
call it a conspiracy theory, if you must. So clearly, clearly,
there is knowledge that in the next few years, and probably
it'll coincide with 2012 Go ahead and say it Oh, brother.
Oh, brother, clearly there is knowledge that there are big
changes afoot and and it makes sense there are changes the
magnetic poles are reversing, we've got all kinds of massive
magnetic and solar activity, you know, the Earth is changing the
Earth changes all the time. It's evolved throughout its its
history, only 6000 years, as you know, and I believe that there
is actual knowledge that lots of crap is going to happen and that
there will be weird. I'm not talking I'm not calling for
destruction and devastation. We're all gonna die. But yeah,
we could see flooding in weird places, we could totally see
shit coming down. And I think that that's why all of this all
these stories are being launched. And that's why Al Gore
can say with such certainty that they know the science is clear.
And
John C Dvorak: well, while you're at it, play the clip I
gave you No.
Adam Curry: Okay. Hold on a second.
John C Dvorak: This is a one day hard on Larry King.
Adam Curry: She's Is she from the from the view, Joy Bay.
She's
John C Dvorak: the comedian. She's a comedian that that is
one of the women on the view.
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, here we go. She's on Larry King. And
she's gonna be
John C Dvorak: bitching about, oh, sorry, go ahead. She's gonna
be bitching about Rush Limbaugh.
Adam Curry: And this, and this pertains to 2012. Somehow,
John C Dvorak: just Plitt There you go.
Unknown: There's no problem. I mean, this guy, Rush Limbaugh, I
used to work with him years ago. And I sort of been friendly with
him in a certain weird kind of way. Did pills together. And he
constantly is talking about how there was no global warming.
Every climatologist in the world says there's global warming,
every scientist has said there is a problem. We're all on this
earth together. And this guy goes out and says that there's
no global warming, who is Hey, what is he talking about? And
who with these ditto heads that agree with him? I'd like to
know, aren't they breathing the same air that we are? I don't
think he has a degree in meteorology. Oh, I don't think a
Adam Curry: bonehead meteorology that has nothing to do with
climate.
John C Dvorak: So of course, that that implies that either Al
Gore has a degree in meteorology, I think as the
great joy has a degree. The thing that gets me about this
stuff, which is every the word used every now
Adam Curry: every single one.
John C Dvorak: This is what's the problem is with this
argument and why it sets off a bunch of alarms and red flags
with me when you start saying it because this is like going to
Israel and getting an agreement. You know, with anybody, they're
just going to be debating forever. And then scientists
don't all agree on anything is the
Adam Curry: definition of science. Sorry. Isn't that
almost a definition of science that it's not truth is
debatable. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So how does every with no exception every
climatologist and every scientist, this is bold? I mean,
when you start hearing that you know something's wrong. Dr.
Adam Curry: Tyson, what do you make of all this? My
calculations show that scientifically? We're screwed.
Geneva says within days they might declare level six for the
first time in their history. For what for the for the the flu,
swine flu? Why
John C Dvorak: don't they just pack it in and say they were
wrong? They can't
Adam Curry: apparently they just can't admit it. And yes, like
these guys, jobs depend on it. Oh, crap. You know, we started.
They started and now we have global warming. So here so it's
North America, Australia and Chile. 21,940 cases 125 deaths.
Dude, that's less than normal flu and That's the pandemic.
That's it. They can't give up because they've got to support
all these deals with the pharmaceuticals for all of these
stupid inoculations for the vaccination
John C Dvorak: news I mentioned this last week or last Thursday.
They want to do three shots a year now so are you
Adam Curry: kidding me? No. Article Three
John C Dvorak: shots at you. They're gonna advocate three,
three flu shots. What do you need three flu you only need one
during the flu season? Well,
Adam Curry: the question is advocate or mandate mandate.
That's the question they
John C Dvorak: would need in the US they have a lot of trouble
getting a mandated flu shot because there's just not as
that's just not gonna happen. It's our Constitution,
especially after that that fiasco with the swine flu
sometime, I think was back in the 70s where they had the
oldest swine flu is gonna 76 shots killed more people than
the flu did.
Adam Curry: Yeah. 76 I believe, John. So
John C Dvorak: I'm reading about this guy, you know who the guy
who had the, you know, the name of the asking this question in
hopes that you don't because I figured you know who? I think a
lot of us are skeptical about things. Always forget some of
the prime movers. You know, who's the guy that is the father
of global warming?
Adam Curry: Oh, I think you sent me this in the show notes. Go
ahead. I'll pretend James
John C Dvorak: Hansen.
Adam Curry: Is he a NASA guy was that
John C Dvorak: NASA climatologist who? You made some
testimony in 1988 in front of Congress claiming manmade global
warming was taking place and we have to do something about it.
And then Gore became his pal and so did okay,
Adam Curry: that part I didn't know he was actually the guy
that that inspired scam artist Gore to come up with his
PowerPoint. Is that how it worked?
John C Dvorak: Pretty much. Yeah. He's the inspiration. So
anyway, so I'm just reading through something. And then I
run into this old posting from January which I don't know did I
miss it? Or was it to get no press? I didn't even blog it
that I know. I don't think maybe it maybe it's on the blog. I
have to I should go look. But how his supervisor John Theon
sent out this note after I guess he's retired or he's not the
supervisor. He doesn't work at NASA anymore. And he says that
Hansen was an embarrassment to NASA. He was never muzzled, and
he's this guy. Theon says it all climate models are useless. And
let me just read a couple of things from the from the note
that was sent out. retired senior NASA atmospheric
scientist John Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen. NASA
is vocal, manmade global warming fear soothsayer, has now
publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen
here's the reason I dug this up is because Hansen just was in
the news a couple of days ago saying it's worse than I
thought. Were due to high and he's in he's targeted coal. So
he was arrested with Daryl Hannah up and in West Virginia,
it's picketing some cold. Daryl Hannah, right. Yeah. And so he
was up there getting arrested with Daryl Hannah. Anyway,
Adam Curry: the guy says, By the way, if you gotta get arrested,
it might as well be with her. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: get handcuffed to her. And he declared that Hanson
embarrassed NASA with his alarming climate claims and said
Hansen was never muzzled Dion joins the rapidly growing ranks.
phenom, but here's the one that the interesting quote is here.
First of all, he says he thinks he likes to join the group that
sets the skeptic this guy. He says NASA scientist James Hansen
to create a world wide media frenzy with his dire climate
warning is calls for trials against those who dissent
against manmade global warming. He's one of the guys that thinks
anyone who says it like what I'm saying now I should be arrested
and his claims. And his claims that he was allegedly muzzled by
the Bush administration despite doing 1400 on the job media
interviews, yes, science.
Adam Curry: The title of this is gagged the internet. Apparently,
Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law professor who was has been
appointed to a post within the Obama administration that will
grant him powers, as the article says that are merely mind
boggling. It explicitly supports using the courts to impose a
chilling effect on speech that might hurt someone's feelings.
So this is how he's working on stifling free speech on the
internet. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's a good effective switch. So it's a
Adam Curry: it might work in mind his he has a new book,
which is coming out advanced copies, of course, were read by
the journalist who wrote this article. His book is called on
rumors, how falsehoods spread, why we believe them, what can be
done. It's going out to reviewers ahead of its September
publication date, but considering the prominence with
which Sunstein is about to be endowed, and I'm gonna He's He's
Actually his key has been chosen by President Obama to head the
White House Office of Information and Regulatory
Affairs, John, finally, the Ministry of Truth is here. It's
about the White House Office of Information and Regulatory
Affairs. This has been reported in The Wall Street Journal. But
of course, it's you haven't really heard about this because
we're more concerned with Michael Jackson's murder. And
let me see if I can find, here we go. He worries that sustain
that we're headed for a future in which quote, people's beliefs
are a product of social networks working as echo chambers, in
which false rumors spread like wildfire. That future they're
already here. According to Sunstein, we hardly need to
imagine a world however, in which people and institutions
are being harmed by the rapid spread of damaging falsehoods
via the internet. We live in that world what might be done to
reduce the harm? Well, he questions the libel standard
basically, it comes down to a notify and take that
John C Dvorak: puts you in your myself in the driver's seat when
it comes to some of those early lawsuits. Yeah, well, I was
always somebody saying something nasty about it. Ryan, it hurts
my feelings. It hurts. My
Adam Curry: feelings are so freakin hurt John, what he's
going for is a libel. So a system of notify and takedowns
will have takedown notices for untruths on the intranet. So if
you write an untruth, notify and take down he'll be
John C Dvorak: able to get it and this is going to be the
government dole because you're going to have to hire millions
of people to do this. I want a job. I
Adam Curry: got to study some law. I got to pass the bar. I
gotta get into some kind of law program.
John C Dvorak: takedown notice for and by the way, how does
that work with global warming?
Adam Curry: Oh, well, Oh, geez. Well, of course, you know, you
if you say the global warming doesn't exist, you'll get a
takedown notice. Yeah, you'll get a total takedown notice. We
were talking about what's her name? The weird chick who was
testifying? We had a sound clip of her last time.
John C Dvorak: Janine Garoppolo.
Adam Curry: She looks a bit like Jimmy Garoppolo. But no, that's
not the one. The other one. The Lisa Jackson, Lisa Jackson.
Yeah. So apparently two years ago, the Supreme Court passed a
ruling that said that the EPA, which she now heads, would be
allowed to create legislation to stop greenhouse gases. And she
would, but there were several other memos that basically said
there's no science to support that greenhouse gases are
creating, you know, global warming.
John C Dvorak: There's also a proviso in within that, that
that scenario, you described, that she the head of the EPA, or
any head of the EPA, not just her, a can, can defy, and they
talked about this in these hearings, can define anything as
a greenhouse gas if they want to, you know, yes. So you could
be a greenhouse?
Adam Curry: Well, I think co2 pretty much covers most things,
since that's the shit we're exhaling when we breathe. So I
think there's gonna be a
John C Dvorak: tax on that you're gonna have to hold your
breath. It's a law. It's fact it's science. And there's an
article that people should try to track down, I'll send you
make sure it'll be in the show notes, which is the Telegraph's
article on July 11 2009, just came out climate change the sun
and the oceans do not lie by Christopher Booker. And he goes
on and on and on it which would have would have a crock that
this seems to be the especially the cap and trade but he makes
let me just read this in a very funny first paragraph. The moves
not being made by the world's political establishment to lock
us into December's Copenhagen treaty to halt global warming
are as alarming as anything that's happened in our
lifetimes. And last week in Italy, the various branches of
our emerging world government g8 And g 20. agreed in principle
that the world must by 2050 cut its co2 emissions in half.
Britain in the US already committed to cutting their
fossil fuels by more than 80% short of an unimaginable
technological revolution. This could only be achieved by
closing down virtually all of our economic activity, no
electricity, no transport, no industry. All of this is being
egged on by a gigantic publicity machine by the UN by serried
ranks of government funded scientists by cheerleaders such
as Al Gore, last week comparing the fight against global warming
to that against Hitler's Nazis.
Adam Curry: Go telegraph and by
John C Dvorak: politicians who have no idea what they're saying
Eating and train. This makes it this even otter that the runaway
warming predicted by their computer models simply isn't
happening. This, by the way has been pointed up only by there's
somebody the other day that said, you know, right when talk
radio listeners get this kind of information then it never goes
into the mainstream. And people are always baffled that and they
cite like the Duke University student fake rape charges that
everybody knew was phony that listens to real news. But the
New York Times was still promoting running these kids out
of school. And it's just typical, this particular stuff,
right, and I'm hearing a lot about it. They have not been
able to confirm any warming whatsoever over the past five or
six years, and they've been the and when there's no sea level
rising and just nothing going there are
Adam Curry: 30,000 scientists who aren't and led by the guy
who started the Weather Channel, who are suing Al Gore, and the
UN about the so called Science of global warming, you don't
even hear about that. No, of course not why 30,000 of which
8000 are PhDs 30,000 The science. This is from our buddy
Andrew or Loski from the register. This is quite amazing
to me, the CRU, the Climatic Research Unit, which of course,
has provided the global climate data set, which is the most
cited surface temperature record kept by the IPCC from the UN. So
basically, this is the data that the phony baloney scientists, I
just can't wait for the email, the phony baloney scientists of
the United Nations IPCC of which not all were climatologist, and
of course, there's now you know, eight 9000, other real
climatologists who are against this research. So this was the
research that was used that led to eventually An Inconvenient
Truth, and, of course, all the way down to the cap and trade
legislation, and has sparked all this global warming unrest. They
say they no longer have the raw data. They don't have the raw
data anymore. There was a number of freedom of information
requests that were submitted for the raw data. As you know, they
they're the ones that keep all the historical data of surface
temperatures. And here's what they say, We are not in a
position to supply data for a particular country not covered
by the example agreements referred to earlier, as we have
never had sufficient resources to keep track of the exact
source of each individual monthly value. Apparently, they
don't have USB drives. Since the 1980s. We have merged the data
that we have received into existing series or begun new
ones. So it's impossible to say if all stations with a
particular country or all individual records will be
freely available data and storage availability in the
1980s meant we were not able to keep the multiple sources for
sites, only the station series after adjustment for hump
homogeneity issues. We therefore do not Majan at homogeneity with
I think I've done that was someone once we therefore do not
hold the original raw data, but only the value added ie
homogenized data.
John C Dvorak: manipulated when they use that word, yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, that just blows me away.
John C Dvorak: That's a good one from our Loski.
Adam Curry: That's a fence. It's awesome.
John C Dvorak: So weird that you had to read stuff like that in
the register? Well,
Adam Curry: I read the register a lot because it rocks. Because
it's such a great application.
John C Dvorak: But it seems to me, you know,
Adam Curry: can we donate to the register? How do they make
money? They make plenty of it. They make more money than we do?
John C Dvorak: Oh really should be donating to us.
Adam Curry: So yeah, so the headline is global warming eight
my data. We've lost the numbers as Cru as they respond to
Freedom of Information request, the world's source for global
temperature records, admits it's lost or destroyed all the
original data that would allow third party lost or destroyed.
Yeah. Well, that's what he said jobs lost or
John C Dvorak: destroyed, data
Adam Curry: lost or destroyed. So this is the actual data that
spawned this whole global global warming debate. It is no longer
available because of the 90 day 1980s We didn't have enough
money to buy hard drives. That's basically what he's saying.
John C Dvorak: That's written on a piece of paper. Yeah.
Adam Curry: printed out. Science is truth. Maher is
John C Dvorak: going to is going to be sarcastic in response to a
big debate about global warming. Oh, global warming. Oh, so Mars.
Yeah. So So Kathy Griffin comes in. We're asking a semi serious
question. And Maher throws a sarcastic remark at her that you
know, she says Who and I'm gonna give you some of it. But you got
to listen to it to appreciate it. She's asked what's causing
this. And then Mara sarcastically says, What's the
Democrats? Oh, they can ruin the economy, mocking what some right
wingers might say? She takes his comments seriously. It goes,
This flies over a head. She's a comic, by the way, flies over a
head about a mile, and Maura tries to recover. But the whole
thing falls apart. You can hear Margot Baba Baba, and but the
whole thing falls apart. Because everybody gets into the fray. It
is one of the funniest little scenes I saw on the show.
Unknown: People are more skeptical of global warming now
than they were 10 years ago, especially young people. This is
really scary. Young people in great numbers think it's a hoax,
then who is behind the hoax? It was behind the lie Democrats to
make sure our economy fails, then how do we change
it? No, but that's what the Republican mentality I mean, who
was perpetuating this notion that global warming is false.
The people will, I think a small number of skeptics who get
disproportionate coverage on the media and some industries that
don't want to be regulated.
John C Dvorak: And you notice these features again, but it
just a Republican, they all step all over him. And the joke is
Adam Curry: I think it was that same show that he said, you
know, California is in flames, you know, because of global
warming. And you know nothing about climate jackass. And it's
actually because of a cooler climate a that has made
California extremely dry. It is exactly the opposite. And that,
to me, that's like huge disinformation right there.
Anyway, we will continue to watch the show, because it
irritates us. And that is and that is a form of Come on, man.
That's a form of a form of entertainment. NASA is shooting
off rockets to create artificial clouds in the outermost layers
of the Earth's atmosphere. It's called the Kerr project, charged
aerosol release experiment. And they are literally creating a
cloud of artificial dust over the earth.
John C Dvorak: Why would they want to do this? This is what
happens when a volcano goes off and kills everybody in the
world. And
Adam Curry: it's an aluminium oxide dust particles that
there'll be spreading. And, and well of course, this is the you
know, this is like well, maybe we can stop global warming these
knows
John C Dvorak: you can't be okay.
Adam Curry: All the all the links. Let
John C Dvorak: me tell you this, I was at an event. And there was
a guy from NASA even though nobody from NASA seems to know
who he was, who went out for this half baked theory about
putting up all these crazy satellites that would then open
up these huge panels and block the sun to sound like like
Montgomery burns Simpson episode. That's funny. And he's
gonna block the sun. And there's a bunch of people Chipotle in
the audience nodding their heads in agreement. This
Unknown: idea Yeah.
John C Dvorak: This guy is in criminally insane, he should be
taken out now.
Adam Curry: Well, it gets worse. Tomorrow. Friday, NASA will
launch a spectacular mission to bomb the moon.
John C Dvorak: This is not the time we get to bomb the moon. So
they get bombed the spot where we didn't land. The
Adam Curry: L Cross mission will blast off from Cape Canaveral,
Florida carrying a missile that will blast a hole in the lunar
surface at twice the speed of a bullet.
John C Dvorak: And all sizes of bullet go. I don't know. That
bullet goes about Mach 1.5. I think maybe so and
Adam Curry: this is another one of the space scientists want to
see if any water ice or vapor is revealed in the clouds of the
debris. You know, it's just not a good idea to be shooting at
the moon. It just doesn't. It just isn't. You know, the old
saying Shoot the Moon shoot for the moon sun. Well, they're
doing it. But this this creating clouds is a part of
geoengineering. And we haven't actually talked about this but
there's a lot of these kooky things like the you know, expand
the panels, there's also there's been talk of trying to push the
earth you know, and move our orbit a little bit and it's
like, this is dangerous and crazy thinking. This is not
always is not a good idea. But But spewing aluminium oxide into
the atmosphere or even if it's above the atmosphere, it just
doesn't seem like a good idea. They'll be tracking the dust
cloud for days or even months to study its behavior
John C Dvorak: years of this thing stuck with it. How's it
going to come down? It's not gonna rain. There's no rain
that's going to take it out. How's it going? How's it going
to dissipate?
Adam Curry: Let me see what they say. The US Navy, NASA and the
US Defense Department. Oh, what are they doing? In this has made
a decision to conduct one or more atmospheric tests in order
to create an aluminium oxide dust cloud without the
permission and for the most part, the knowledge of the
citizens of the United States. Eventually, they say the oxide
particles will return to Earth polluting the air, water and
soil.
John C Dvorak: But they don't say how are they going to return
to Earth?
Adam Curry: I don't know what we'll see how high up it's
going. We got to find out well, if it's if it's kind of like,
you know, in the, in that layer where the Concorde used to fly,
I guess eventually it will come down to earth. I don't like it.
John C Dvorak: No, I don't like this this sort of
experimentation with the I think the United Nations had cracked.
Where are they in these pictures? Oh, well, this is an
international situation. In other words, people in France
oh, by the way, anyway, I want to thank the people that from
around the world who gave us money, but the people around the
world why should they why should this aluminum cloud be floating
over their country? Yes. I mean, it's really I think there's a
treaty violation here. You can't just throw crap in the air like
that, you know, unnaturally. And then just because you think it's
fun to experiment climate, it's
Adam Curry: time it's time. It's time It's time exam exam.
John C Dvorak: This is Chris Matthews, Ron Reagan and a black
guy, which I'm sorry, I don't have his name. Who who's very
jazzed to hold his own against them. When he brings up the
climate change issue here goes
Unknown: in the interest of this country. Everybody knows the
same thing. Basically, there is a climate change problem.
Anybody reads the paper thinks knows somewhere down the line
number two, their man has something to do with number two.
And number three, we're going to stop depending on Arab oil, or
we're crazy. So you got to do something about it. And is the
President doing something he is doing something you say everyone
who knows anything says that there's global climate change? I
think there's serious scientific disputes of whether or not that
is actually viable. But let me address the challenge. Of
course, I really challenge it. I think you've had we've seen what
happened in East Anglia over in England, where they discredited
the scientific research and these people, I think that is a
gimmick. question, the question of collusion at this meeting.
Chris. Oh, wait a second. So we're supposed to take
scientists who have a fiduciary interest in this that could
benefit our fiduciary
Adam Curry: interest. Nice, nice, good word.
Unknown: party line. This is actually I've researched this.
Why should we take hook line and sinker? We'll put some of these
environmentalists have said about global climate change. Why
don't we have an honest debate? Why don't we have the
conservative voices actually address them? Because the
weather invoiced right now in the last x many years is the
same as it used to be in photo and warmer and warmer. It was
sure warm here on the East Coast. We had blizzards. It was
one of the it was one of the coldest winters on record.
crediting yourself, Ron, come on.
Actually, Ron Reagan. I'm actually making my point. It was
one of the coldest winters
one of the discredits, you know it doesn't your thoughts. Well,
listen, weather is not climate. So let's forget about climate
change. To be part of it isn't it isn't? Well, as I do. We're
talking about climate change for the moment because we don't even
have to discuss climate change. We can discuss national security
here. Everybody knows forget about climate change. Everything
is the future isn't solar and wind, sustainable energy
sources. That's where we have to be going now.
Adam Curry: No, I take sucks exception to that. That's
unbelievable. That's bullshit. How about nuclear? There's all
the
John C Dvorak: guy that Republican there he's Tiedemann
is that you and then they jump him up, jump on him for that, in
fact, is the clip still
Unknown: got half a minute left? Not to the past, we gotta be
going to the 21st century, not the 19th.
Now we're on ranking. Here's where I agree with you. I agree
with all those but you need to add one more component to that
you need to add nuclear energy. France has over 80% of their
domestic supply supplied by nuclear energy. The only thing
you guys like about the French is nuclear energy that's about
you never on any topic, you will need to French fries you make
front of their freedom fries.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, this is a good example of being shouted
down for having any any kind of thought full consideration
whatsoever. You just get shouted down by these guys. And that's
how this whole thing does sciences in everybody agrees.
Anyway, Matthew says anyone who reads a newspaper agrees. In
other words, the scientists not the scientists don't only agree,
but anyone who reads a newspaper also agree so everybody agrees
except idiots. And the funny thing is, they have these memes
that they keep putting out Arab oil era boy we don't even use
why don't they be honest about it and say it's Alberta Oil.
Most of the oil in the United States that we use is from
Alberta, Canada and Venezuela. We have very low Little oil from
Saudi Arabia very little. And then they throw this this this
nasty little comment about, oh, well if you don't believe in
global warming, you don't believe in evolution either,
which is a really ridiculous specious jump leap of faith.
It's a chickenshit thing to do your math, you should be ashamed
of himself for even being on the air with this kind of crap. John
Cena borax. Indeed, I had like a jaw dropping moment when I got
this particular clip. Thinking what Did anybody go over the
script? Was this ad lib. I can't believe they even let this
sensors like this bit go through play it. So nice to meet Paul.
interesting guy.
Unknown: How much do you know about him?
Well,
I lost a toe ring. And um, so I say a lot. No, I mean, what he
does. They probably didn't understand that. How
unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: I'm listening to that. What they're trying
Adam Curry: to do it you know, they're doing anything they can
to get ratings. How bad is it when you have something like
that in your script? And no one talks about it.
John C Dvorak: Nobody talks about it. Nobody cares. Nobody
notices. What you say what can we do? I don't know. Let's get
more weird.
Adam Curry: That show of course is well known for also pushing
the agenda. They put gluten your global warming stuff in there.
They're definitely on board with the propaganda
John C Dvorak: but as Hollywood. Yeah, you're in LA. I mean, that
whole the whole thing is out of Hollywood. Yeah. So we got some
climate change clips. And we've been sitting on Oh, yeah, do we
do let me play? Let's play what my climate change one and two
and see what it says I can't remember the spin these been in
the rundown for weeks on end. Check
Adam Curry: it out. The ice caps are melting. The polar bears are
dying. What is this from? Do you know? No, I can't remember
Unknown: a recent study. It's not Bret Michaels by any chance,
is it? No. He by Yale and George Mason University's found that
56% of Americans don't trust public figures like Al Gore and
Sarah Palin on climate change as much as they do the local
weather forecaster.
And your seven day forecast will show those showers and the
climate
change scientists are scientists, they freely admit
they haven't always been effective spokespeople for their
cause.
I plead guilty. I don't think we've done the best job that we
could have done. Penn
State's Michael Mann is one of the scientists who last year had
his emails hacked. And quoted worldwide by climate change
skeptics has
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so this is this was a knob getting wrapped
remembering this was either on Nightline, or a something on PBS
and they were showing they were getting they were they were
showing the difference between the climatologists and the and
and the weather guys, the the meteorologists and the debate.
And it was it was a very interesting debate, because the
meteorologists made a lot more sense than these other guys who
are just all in. I don't know, like climate change, too. And I
think there's no
Unknown: serious debate within the scientific community about
the reality of human caused climate change and
debate. No, of course, there's
John C Dvorak: no debate. It's funny, because you're on a show
where they're debating part
Unknown: of your job is to convince all of us, isn't it?
I don't see my job is convincing anybody of anything. I know, you
just have to believe what I say I went to school dammit, to see
my job as a scientist of making sure that the public discourse
is informed by an accurate understanding of the science.
And that may be one reason that doubting meteorologists have had
such a huge opening to convince the public otherwise.
John C Dvorak: But then again, that you know, I have a, you
know, I'm a ditch digging meteorologist so that just a
Bachelor of Science,
Unknown: this is the biggest forecast at the mall. And the
stakes are much higher. All right. Now,
John C Dvorak: I think the unfortunate I don't have the
notes on this anymore, but I did a lot of research and we'll
probably bring it up in a future show. But the in the 70s and you
can look this stuff up. The science was in in all the
climatologist then, of course, we're predicting global cooling,
except for one guy who apparently has been with global
warming the whole time. And there's another guy who's been
global cooling to this day, the whole time. But for the most
part, it was always climatologists that were
convinced that we're going to have global cooling, it's going
to be the worst thing ever. And there are huge articles in Time
Magazine and Newsweek. And it's and it was the same and you'd
hear the pitch was exactly
Adam Curry: the same. Same script. Exact same exact same
script. Yep.
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Adam Curry: Well, so
John C Dvorak: that's why our Wikipedia page has been ruined
by this tour by characters Hu RBA. So
Adam Curry: the global warming weather are a true or not,
there's a lot of the people who are claiming that this is
horrible and happening, and it's all because of us is, are the
same people who stand to make a lot of money. And we've talked
about this many times on the show, we've shamed Al Gore for
his business dealings, and I'm happy to see Investor's Business
Daily, which I would say is reasonably well regarded.
John C Dvorak: No, absolutely. In fact, horror, which is a huge
fan of that publication, especially the weekend edition,
I guess. So
Adam Curry: here it is titled The $10 trillion dollar climate
fraud. And it outlines exactly what we've mentioned on this
show. In fact, I should probably do a little
so what it starts right off, well, senators from a froth over
Goldman Sachs and derivatives a climate trading scheme being run
out of the Chicago Climate Exchange would make birdie made
off blush, and his trail leads to the White House is exactly
what we told you. Well, I just did something really weird. I
tried to use my finger on the screen of my Mac to scroll the
page. Whoa, that was strange. Thinking it was an iPad. Lost in
the recent headlines is Al Gore's appearance Monday in
Denver at the annual meeting of Council of Foundations, an
association of the nation's philanthropic leaders, and he
said Time's running out. We have to get our act together, you
have a unique role in getting our act together. And it goes
right on to say,
John C Dvorak: oh, find it. By the way, do you find it odd?
That despite all the climate gate, and the scandals and the
arguments that are legitimate by lots of scientists, and I mean,
there's just an amazing number of heavy hitters that have
thought this thing is something bogus about it, and they want to
talk about it more, and they're not convinced that this is just
it's as though there that says no, nothing happened. Nothing is
happening. Right. We're marching, marching, marching,
marching direction. Oh, yeah. Do you find it odd? I mean, it's
almost like, you know, it's almost like a little kid
covering his ears and going, I
Unknown: guess, my mom, my mom, my
John C Dvorak: mama can hear you, you know, kind of thing is,
um, it's almost reminds me of that extreme.
Adam Curry: You have a John, when you have Bret Michaels?
Possibly not appearing on the final Live episodes of Celebrity
Apprentice, how can you even be bothered with any of this? So
this just going back to, to this Gore thing, and I love that
Investor's Business Daily, a very serious publication. And
yeah, you're right. Let's see if anyone jumps on this. Of course
they won't, because the whole thing is a scam. And everyone,
everyone everybody wants in on it. He set up the Chicago
Climate Exchange, which is now part, which was this guy named
Sandor. I mean, we went through all of this stuff, who, by the
way, is the guy that claims the climate trading of carbon
credits could be a $10 trillion market, which is why everyone's
shutting up about it. They're like, Hey, how can I get in? But
what you need to know is that the client, the Chicago Climate
Exchange, was set up with grant money from the Joyce Foundation.
And on the board of the Joyce Foundation was Barack Obama.
John C Dvorak: What Oh, really? Yeah,
Adam Curry: we talked about this on the show. He's all in your
tone. Of course, he's all in. So this is zero. So everybody's in
on the scam.
John C Dvorak: And it's a form of taxation.
Adam Curry: But will the cap and trade will be but then another
thing that wasn't even
John C Dvorak: trained keeps marching forward. How can that
happen? Well, they've changed it to
Adam Curry: remove pollution. But then on Friday, and I'm sure
you didn't see this reported. Atlanta based cm e group, has
agreed to pay $604 million for Climate Exchange PLC. This is a
London based operator of the Chicago Climate Exchange and
Chicago Climate futures exchange $604 million dollars. The
combination of climate exchanges and mission markets and ICE
Futures and OTC energy markets is an important and logical
strategic combination. So what they've done is they've seen
that the heat is on right the sea Oh my God, I am shit man.
You know, the heat is on and all this and everyone's looking into
Gore's investments. And, you know, and yes, there's a number
of go ex Goldman guys who are we've built this trading
company. So now they're gonna hide it in another group, and
they've just folded it in. And it's going to be harder to
track. You know, we won't be able to point to the evil owl
because he'll be on the outside of it all. And this gets no
play. not a small deal. By the way, more than half a billion
dollars for something that doesn't even work
John C Dvorak: yet? Yeah, that's pretty amazing. That's expensive
just based
Adam Curry: upon future possible revenues. And this is the
trading desk by these. This is like the the it's like a
computer like a PC, like a big ass computer that they paid a
lot of money for.
Unknown: The global warming is happening and humans are the
cause. There's not another side of the issue. And
Adam Curry: it turns out this guy doesn't believe in peak oil.
This whole drone guy, in fact, he's come out as a staunch
opponent of peak oil. And what's interesting, well, it is
interesting for a number of reasons. So I go back and forth
with our with our friend. And two things come up. Number one,
they program all these climate models in Fortran, which is kind
of funny, but it's like a step by step below COBOL. And guess
what's going to happen next year when their new computers are
supposed to come in? Guess what's going to be in there?
What IBM Watson, of course, see, this is this is how the this is
how the propaganda works. First, you show that this thing can't
be wrong. This thing is awesome. It wins Jeopardy. It's
fantastic. You got to love IBM Watson. It has a personality, it
talks to you. It's fantastic. And now it is going it's going
to actually come out and say I have predicted that climate
change is real. You must be careful humans, we must reduce
our greenhouse gas emissions by 83%. By 2050. Final Jeopardy
answer is I guarantee you this is going to happen. Watson will
be on television talking to us about climate change, because no
one believes the politicians but Watson I mean, how can you how
can you argue with the Jeopardy winner? Let's be honest. So IBM
is up for the contracts for the new climate change computers.
That's number one. And I have a tip, I have a tip for everybody.
If you are in a conversation, we should put this in one of our
emails, John, if you agree with it, if you and I verified this
with our insider. Peak Oil, of course, is perpendicular to
greenhouse gas emission reductions, because and I think
that most people who believe in manmade climate change, the
climate is changing, no doubt about it. But we've got the sun
exploding, all kinds of stuff happening right now. But if you
are in a conversation with someone, there's a 95% chance
they also believe in peak oil. So this is how you trap them.
You say, can you believe that? We're responsible for all this
climate change? Yes. You believe in peak oil? Yes. Well, then we
don't have to worry do we? Could we just run out of oil and then
we'll have no problem? That's a good one. Seriously, it's like
you don't know. I like it. This is why I can This is why hold on
is against it. Because he knows that and they're always really
quiet about it. You never hear people yelling, hooting and
hollering about peak oil. Because this is logical
inconsistency
John C Dvorak: is he's actually exactly what he has assumed. God
What are we gonna do about this one? Yeah, but isn't
Adam Curry: it beautiful? You just say hey, do you believe and
I guarantee you people who believe in manmade
John C Dvorak: You're right. Is this the same mentality? Yep.
The mentality is that everything we do is screwed up. Because
we're humans and we're you know wrecking the place because we're
just bad people who are burned
Adam Curry: out weren't enough fossil fuels tell us you know
what we don't that problem solved peak oil will run out of
oil Hey, we may have to walk we may not we unless we figure out
battery technology. But we won't have to worry about greenhouse
gas emissions because we won't have anything to burn now we'll
wait and watch people go because it freezes your brain and this
holder and he's against it of course he is he's no
John C Dvorak: he's a little late to get bringing up that
that's like a dip that's funny because there's not going to
work because there's no way that you can all of a sudden change
gears amongst the you know the crowd with the climate change
crowd the warmest Yep, you can't all of a sudden pull the plug on
their their very strong belief about peak
Adam Curry: oil Exactly. That's a good but as it comes to
John C Dvorak: that then that's the winner for the show as it
comes
Adam Curry: to manmade global warming which means because of
our cars and all the oil we're burning at evil oil evil oil
because of that, we're all going to die so we have to reduce that
well with peak oil. Great problem solved. Ah, good to hear
peak oil again.
John C Dvorak: Oh peak oil we forgot all about P we're having
a peak oil What a crock
Adam Curry: never pigs after we said hey, peak oil you know, the
problem solved no more climate change after the oil runs out.
They all went oh though. There's no agenda. There's no agenda
boys around to us. You gotta stop. Well, if anyone has any
ideas for a global warming special after you do the climate
change, or whatever else you can come up with. Being at.io is a
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