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John C Dvorak: Oh, everything is
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi
Devora April 25 2024.

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Adam Curry: This Year Award
winning give our nation media

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assassination episode 1654. This
is no agenda, revealing repose

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and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country

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here and FEMA reached number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm

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Adam curry,

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're

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wondering why people do weird
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seat of their car, and Genesee
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Adam Curry: Well, that is yes,
that is the collapse of society.

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Of course. That's, that's the,
we'll have that and electro

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lights. That's, that's the
future. renting your car, and

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electro lights in your belly.
That's it. That's it. And you

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notice everyone's always sitting
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somehow their cameras always
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John C Dvorak: That's true.

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Adam Curry: I don't understand.
I don't understand why those

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cameras don't automatically just
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John C Dvorak: You can flip it.
I'm sure there's a button you

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Adam Curry: think so. You think
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John C Dvorak: They don't care?
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screaming their heads off and
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Adam Curry: Yes, that's, that is
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haven't you? Haven't you heard
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we don't
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this is something that has not
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Who is the first person who in
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rant? Well, that's sitting down
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away at the camera in the car,
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Adam Curry: says the troll room?
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honestly. One of my early daily
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There's even a picture of me in
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podcast from the car now wasn't
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John C Dvorak: you or the
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Adam Curry: Wasn't video though.
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John C Dvorak: Jenna Marbles? I
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Adam Curry: don't know what who
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John C Dvorak: I forget who she
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infant online influencers. And
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she broke down and gave up on
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I do
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John C Dvorak: that was she was
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Adam Curry: So. So that's an
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something else that has cropped
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things. Do you ever go on X or
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anymore? Or is that go go away
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John C Dvorak: I never went on
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John C Dvorak: I course I look
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Adam Curry: I just gotta say
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every famous woman who's an
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don't think they're all dudes.
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annoying. People keep posting
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John C Dvorak: I have not I'm
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Adam Curry: Every woman's that
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Dude, Matt. It's now Jennifer
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her. It's really rampant.
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dudes. Now. It's has something
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women and men in women's sports.
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everybody's regression. Yes.
Twisting everybody's brain. Oh,

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yeah. No, you just see a dude
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little concerning. And then the
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John C Dvorak: Ah, you're
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Adam Curry: So if you're on
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that. If you go on Twitter. You
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for up and down. And yeah, it's
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something. I think that's what's
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everyone's scam and everything
that get everything get

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eyeballs, I need eyeballs. I'm
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of got snuck in and there wasn't
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Unknown: Net Neutrality is
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vote today. And that means that
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able to speed up or even slow
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Adam Curry: I love that they're
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Oh, it's, it's, it's so they
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speed. Slow down your speed. Who
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that has a slowed connection?
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anachronism. This is a thing of
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still playing it off like hey,
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anything. Yeah, man. It's
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blocking, throttling, or even
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apps or services. They also bar
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net neutrality in place to begin
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CompuServe. And services like
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Adam Curry: This isn't Eli
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provider. So it has been gone
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says it could take a couple of
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Adam Curry: I want to get
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only which we have explained
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single time we do it. It's very
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of the woodwork and go, that's
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really important noon is better
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This is their will. So now your
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legal transfer again, and there
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to be legal. I can think of a
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John C Dvorak: gets blocked
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Adam Curry: Because you know,
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home with Tor. You don't need
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web. So that'll that'll be on
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Adam Curry: I think I think
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John C Dvorak: that copyright
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Adam Curry: that's what it's
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now you know, it's dark webs
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drink? Do you thought that
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tock tick tock. The clock is
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meanwhile, they're just going to
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Adam Curry: I mean, it'll I mean

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John C Dvorak: they did work
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Adam Curry: not really a
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Tor. If you want to serve Tor
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think that's going to work. Oh
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Adam Curry: okay you Good girl.
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John C Dvorak: By the way I
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barking. I think that dog
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terrific bark she's got a
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Adam Curry: Okay, you're on we
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Adam Curry: important. She's
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Adam Curry: she does double
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press. The Harvey Weinstein
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Adam Curry: it's interesting.
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let her bark right because you
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John C Dvorak: is really does
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Adam Curry: I can make her I
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Maybe. Okay, be quiet now. I
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our lawyer Rob comes in. He says
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how this plays alongside the
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says it could possibly help
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to the court. I believe. It has
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with a trial we'll start over
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that. And the reason why is so I
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important here. defendant was
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sexual crimes against three
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appeal claims that he was judged
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was indicted, but on irrelevant,
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allegations of prior bad acts.
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erroneously admitted testimony
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sexual acts against persons
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the underlying crimes. So here's
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know, convict a former president
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letting an actual creep go. I
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believe. It really is. It's like
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eBay, good girl that worked. So
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podcast, Hello, we're podcast.
We give you some real

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information and how that might
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today's legal land, landscape.
Other podcasts like the Midas

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touch. Well, they have
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Unknown: turning to the court
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during the proceedings as well.
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courtroom. What I'm hearing is
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worth, but that Donald Trump is
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Adam Curry: I mean, it's it's
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fabulous report. This is the
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Haberman no less, He's farting.
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news everyone's Donald Trump is
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Unknown: in the courtroom, and
that Trump's lawyers are like

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repulsed by the scent in the
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saying that to be like, Oh,

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Adam Curry: why are you doing
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breaking break. Hey,

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it from actual credible people
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asleep, he is actually passing
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really struggling with the
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Adam Curry: like that. I like
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are really struggling with this.
I mean, do they do the other

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lawyers keeling over? Are they
putting on gas masks? I mean, we

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need to add this to the Trump
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John C Dvorak: I have my list
and you might want to see if

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there's anything that this is
the Trump rotation is two

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categories is irregular and then
there's the criminal but here we

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go. Ready? Yeah. Liar,
incompetent, unhinged

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illegitimate President white
supremacist, racist bully,

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immature Russian agent,
narcissist. Mean long ties,

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insane. Tweets too much small
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button, criminal. Mean racist,
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The mob has no money. Unstable,
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Robber 25th amendment and should
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misogynist holds grudges forever
plays golf a lot obstruction of

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justice, money laundering and
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Adam Curry: There you go wonder
partying. We're making fun

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John C Dvorak: cork would be the
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list that watches gorilla TV. My
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Adam Curry: farts in court. I
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your your media and alternative
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sources, reliable sources.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah.

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Adam Curry: I mean, they
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he's scowling. And he's he's
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, Rachel
Maddow got somehow God and she

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was thankful that she got into
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about how he scowling but you
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if you ever been to a court but
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the audience, you don't get to
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behind them. But you know, the
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Adam Curry: I think they're
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which is still always funny to
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it's you can't have cameras in
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guide drawing. Yes, a guy
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caricature from someone who does
that Central Park. And it's

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John C Dvorak: I think they're
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on and on about how happy she
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scowling. And he walked his
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recorded this sounds good watch
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old man. He's taller than you
think. And it was just like, Who

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What is this got to do with
anything? It's just a bunch of

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it's so high schoolish
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embarrassment and these people
get paid. Rachel Maddow gets

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Adam Curry: always a cry. And
you're, you're always mad about

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that. Yeah. So then so then, you
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general population. Here's,
here's one we didn't expect.

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This is from C span. Now,
there's a number of Trump

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trials. So in this case, we're
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a little confusing, because all
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he was still president. So you
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immunity from anything he said.
He didn't go he didn't go and

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bust down the doors at the
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somehow that gets conflated with
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wants to do after the election.
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weird. But now it seeps into the
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span Democrat line. This is
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Unknown: if the court rules that
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President is immune to anything,
you know, actually, then the

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President can could do anything
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assassinating his political
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the court rules for for him,
President Biden could have him

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assassin can have Trump
assassinated, and get away with

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exactly what Putin and donor
Russia,

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Adam Curry: really Russia now.
As great at that I had heard

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that one. That's good. I like
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rest once and for all are
clearly incorrect assumption

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that Obama could be prosecuted
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John C Dvorak: I know where you
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was not addressed properly.

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Adam Curry: Well, let's see. I
do about President Obama's drone

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strikes. This is a justice
Cavanaugh asking the question.

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Unknown: of Legal Counsel looked
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determined that number one, the
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apply to the executive branch,
the president wasn't personally

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carrying out the strike. But the
aiding and abetting laws are

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broad. And it determined that a
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that's built into statutes, and
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murder statute, because it talks
about unlawful killing, did not

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apply to the drone strike. So
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the system should function. The
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criminal law very seriously.
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carefully, with established
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it explains them, and then the
President can go forward in

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accordance with it, and there is
no risk of prosecution for that

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course of activity.

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Adam Curry: But of course,
you're right and I think it's

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ignorance on the part of justice
Cavanaugh is part that he didn't

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frame the question correctly.

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John C Dvorak: It will not only
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up that I can tell I mean, I
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been floating around. I don't
have the beginning Miranda I

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don't even know is being played
today. And the follow up would

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be with that so that even
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the assassination by drone of an
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what he should have followed up
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they'd said yes to that. Great,
that's good to know.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, but I don't
think he asked that. I don't

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think Cavanaugh knows these
people don't know that stuff.

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John C Dvorak: Kevin dropped the
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his staff.

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Adam Curry: He was too busy
goofing. Phoebe It's okay. You

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know who they are?

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John C Dvorak: Who she barking
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Adam Curry: Well, the painters
are still just the last all day

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John C Dvorak: the rafters is
it? Where's Where is? Oh,

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Adam Curry: no important stuff
outside the house. She first you

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went to New York and I was here
with the painters and that's

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important stuff, man. She's
She's running this town. Running

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this town. I do have a TRT
report about the Supreme Court

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on former President Trump's
immunity. While the US press is

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sniffing his farts. These guys
are actually doing some analysis

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Unknown: in a courtroom day
after day. This will be Donald

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Trump's life for the next few
weeks, and possibly for the next

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several months as well. Trump
faces a total of four criminal

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trials to hush money case
concerns allegations before he

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became president. But the other
cases sent on his activities

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while in office, most notably
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overturn the results of the 2020
election. Today,

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an indictment was unsealed.
Charging Donald J. Trump with

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conspiring to defraud the United
States. This is

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Adam Curry: the special
prosecutor he sounds out of

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breath. He sounds weird, this
jack dude,

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Unknown: conspiring to
disenfranchise voters, right,

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and conspiring and attempting to
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Trump's lawyers would argue that
making a president liable for

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criminal charges would make the
job impossible. In their

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submission to the court, they
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prosecution and imprisonment
would become a political cudgel,

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to influence the most sensitive
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decisions. And

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I feel that as a president, you
have to have immunity. Very

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simple. And if you don't, as an
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on immunity. And I did nothing
wrong, absolutely nothing

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working for the country.

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by agreeing to hear this case at
all. The former president had

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been due to appear in court here
in Washington last month. But

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the delay caused by this hearing
means the chances of him

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appearing in another courtroom
before November's election. are

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getting slimmer by the day.
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Adam Curry: you go. Delay,
delay, delay delayed Lee, our

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lawyer, Rob is the guy who is
listening to everything today

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and he'll have a report for us.
So we'll know exactly what to

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think. But that's better than
you know. Could it be a jury

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intimidation if Trump is
farting? Is he intimidating the

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jury?

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John C Dvorak: This could be
something to do with gas

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attacks.

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Adam Curry: Chemical Warfare
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John C Dvorak: warfare. Yeah,
that's it.

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Adam Curry: I thought before we
just since there's there's so

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many, I mean, there's a lot
going on. We're like in a in a

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classic Maoist struggle session
in America right now. And it's

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spreading all over the world,

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John C Dvorak: all over the
world, especially Australia. I

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have Australia clips. Before

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Adam Curry: we do that, do you
mind if I play the extended West

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Clarke seven clip just so we can
remember where a lot of this is

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coming from?

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John C Dvorak: What's the
extended version?

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Adam Curry: Well, it's longer
than him just naming the seven

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countries he gives the
background and how long this has

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been going on and tells you who
the people are doing this for

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the game, obviously, but we
played it. We didn't play the

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extended one recently. I don't
think Well, here it is. So

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reminder for everybody is good.
It's a background.

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Unknown: And then I came back to
the Pentagon about six weeks

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later, I saw the same officer. I
said, Why? Why am we attacked

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Iraq, we still gonna attack
Iraq? He said, Oh, sir, he says

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it's worse than that. He pulled
up a piece of paper off his desk

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because I just got this memo
from the Secretary of Defense's

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office, it says we're going to
attack and destroy the

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government's in seven countries
in five years. We're going to

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start with Iraq. And then we're
going to move to Syria, Lebanon,

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Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.
I seven, seven countries in five

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years. I said it's in a
classified memo. He said, Yes,

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sir. I said, Well, don't show it
to me. He was about to show it

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to me. So because I want to talk
about it. And I couldn't believe

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it would really be true, but
that's actually what happened.

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These people took control of the
policy in the United States. And

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I realized then, it came back to
me a 1991 meeting I had with

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Paul Wolfowitz. You know, in
2001, he was Deputy Secretary of

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Defense, but in 1991, he was the
Undersecretary of Defense for

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Policy to number three position
in the Pentagon. So I called him

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up there he was available, and
he brought me in and Though I

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said to Paul, I said, and this
is 1991. I said, Mr. Secretary,

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you must be pretty happy with
the performance of the troops

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and Desert Storm. And he said,
Well, yeah, he said, but but not

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really. He said, Because the
truth is we should have gotten

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rid of Saddam Hussein. And we
didn't. He said, but one thing

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we did learn, he said, we
learned that we can use our

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military in the region in the
Middle East, and the Soviets

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won't stop us. He said, and
we've got about five or 10 years

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to clean up those old Soviet
client regimes, Syria, Iran,

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Iraq, before the next great
superpower comes on to

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challenges. It was a pretty
stunning thing. I mean, the

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purpose of the military is to
start wars and change

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governments. It's not to sort of
deter conflict. We're going to

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invade countries and I you know,
my mind was spinning. This

446
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country was taken over by a
group of people with a policy

447
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coup Wolfowitz, and Cheney and
Rumsfeld. And you could name a

448
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half dozen other collaborators
from the Project for a New

449
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American Century. They wanted us
to destabilize the Middle East.

450
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Turn it upside down. Make it
under our control.

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Adam Curry: There you go. That's
that's the full West Clarke

452
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seven. Well, that's

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John C Dvorak: actually a
different clip.

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Adam Curry: It is. It is.

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John C Dvorak: It's not the old
the old classic clip. That's

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correct. Yeah, this is Yeah, cuz
he said he's brought this up

457
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into the key brought us into the
conversation more than a few

458
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times in that clip is probably
more interesting. If they

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haven't heard that for a while.
You're right.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, I knew you'd
like it. I knew you'd like it

461
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because it kind of sets

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John C Dvorak: the stage. It's a
winner. It

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Adam Curry: kind of sets the
stage what let's look at

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Australia I've been to Australia
was was

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John C Dvorak: Australia's gone
nuts. No. Okay. What do we just

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say a few things is we are no
sir. Australia donors are down.

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So there's

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Adam Curry: like they're dead.
That dead. Jim. We don't have a

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lot of them.

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John C Dvorak: They have this
Prime Minister, this guy you

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don't know but knows who he is
his Anthony l Bernie's. He looks

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like Elmer Fudd. And acts like
Elmer Fudd. He's a laborer. He's

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the head of labor. And he is a
censorship nut. And the whole

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country, both sides all
everybody in the entire

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political spectrum is wants to
censor everything. Yes. And all

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and all information should come
from the government and the

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police. And I have a series of
clips. Now this series of clips

478
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begins with one these are all
from Sky News. And it's a it's a

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collection of various Australian
politicians. All demanding

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censorship. And this guy Alba
knees thinks it should be

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illegal to make a meme that
involves

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Adam Curry: Well, to be fair, I
don't know if you have the clip.

483
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But he was talking about super
impose I don't know if it was a

484
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meme or not but it but memes
would fall under his outrage.

485
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Yes.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. And he
thinks it should be memes

487
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literally should be illegal. You
said memes. He said memes amazes

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00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:32,250
me. He hates memes. You should
move to Australia.

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Adam Curry: My bags are packed.
I'm ready to go. All right,

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John C Dvorak: I want to start
this with this clip is not part

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of the the super clips. But this
is a clip about the there's this

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woman named Julie Inman Grant,
who is the east safety chief he

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said she's in charge of E Safety
he say oh I like a safety and

494
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she is the one who is she used a
lot of a lot of the genesis for

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this is from her and she's weird
because she has a California

496
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accent and doesn't sound like an
Australian at all. But she put

497
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the clamps the kibosh on any Jen
she's the one really injured

498
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Miss misgendering and if you
arresting people and throwing

499
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:29,580
him in jail if they miss gender
is really important to her. That

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this doesn't happen. So I want
to play that clip first, which

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is just about the misgendering
because some people got their

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kid in a ringer over this and
then I'll play the other one.

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This is E Safety Julie Inman
grant clip, Chris

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00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:45,300
Unknown: we've had him on this
program has submitted a Notice

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of Appeal against the E Safety
Commissioner in this country

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Julian grant overheard takedown
order for his post where he

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supposedly misgendered a trans
activists telling me that laters

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with this case it's a
fascinating one. It's one that

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got international attention.
People were shocked that this

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was happening in Australia and
you would think the Safety

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Commissioner would have bigger
priorities I don't know Child

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Exploitation for one then to
bring down posts on x. Yeah,

513
00:30:20,130 --> 00:30:22,950
that's right. Look, there is a
serious issue with the exposure

514
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of children to you know, graphic
and obscene content and it needs

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to be dealt with the problem
that you've got here with with

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Dizzy Safety Commissioner, she's
she's an activist, she will

517
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continue to expand her role to
police the Internet to sense the

518
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debate in a way that's
consistent with her own

519
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,580
ideological views. We're just
talking about the EPA, it's the

520
00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:44,760
exact exact same problem you
have these unelected bureaucrats

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that have vague powers. And they
will fill it with their with

522
00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:51,720
their views. And you know, she
has a track record of censorship

523
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and and only ever targets one
side. And unfortunately, we're

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seeing that happen again.

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Adam Curry: If I can just add
some color to this expos a of

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what's happening in Australia.
When I went up to Dallas from my

527
00:31:01,710 --> 00:31:08,640
buddies 60th birthday. The end
up there was a travel agent. Now

528
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she is she has her own travel
agent business. And she booked a

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lot of stuff for us. And she did
it for free. And this friends of

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00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:18,840
the family and is really good
because, you know, she gets all

531
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,410
kinds of benefits, you know,
travel agents work, they, you

532
00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:25,770
know, they get a piece of the
back end somehow. Edna, so I

533
00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:29,280
meet her and I knew that she was
Australian, and we're chatting

534
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,630
as a party. And I say, Wow, man,
you know, I was in Australia in

535
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1990. And she's from Perth. I
said, you know, Perth was

536
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:39,900
beautiful. I really love that.
But man, that country's really

537
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,110
changed. He goes well, you mean?
I said, Well, ever since you

538
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:45,690
took the guns away, we'll do it.
I don't think she's ever going

539
00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:49,920
to do anything for us. She got
really mad about that. Now it's

540
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,690
like well, in COVID that was
that it was over. She was really

541
00:31:54,690 --> 00:31:58,350
defensive about about it, which
to me means she knows she knows

542
00:31:58,350 --> 00:32:02,190
that something has gone really
arrived. And maybe that's why

543
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:07,470
we're not hearing from our from
our Aziz anymore. Tom's weird,

544
00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:08,250
something's going on.

545
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John C Dvorak: That's an
interesting anecdote.

546
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,210
Adam Curry: I think they'd been
been beaten down into

547
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:14,130
submission. It's finally
happened and they're

548
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:17,070
John C Dvorak: the first year or
two. It can't happen here. Yes,

549
00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:20,430
it can. Oh, yes, it can. Did
your jaw you talked about as

550
00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:22,410
Trump farting is the best you
can do.

551
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,280
Adam Curry: We're lost. We are
so lost. So

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00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,650
John C Dvorak: let's go with the
safety too. And then this will

553
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:35,460
be this is a roundup of the
commentary from unfortunately,

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00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:38,160
you don't see who the people are
in that you can't see the Chiron

555
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but it's I can just tell you,
this is besides Alberni says in

556
00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:47,220
here. People from both sides of
all political parties are making

557
00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:52,350
these comments. The entire
country is all in for harsh

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00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:53,850
censorship. legal

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00:32:53,850 --> 00:32:57,390
Unknown: notices have been
issued to Google meta X,

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Telegram, WhatsApp and Reddit.
Amid a surge in reports of

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00:33:01,230 --> 00:33:03,540
harmful content being spread on
the platforms

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00:33:03,570 --> 00:33:06,060
John C Dvorak: were prepared to
take whatever action is

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00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:09,990
necessary to hold these
companies into line.

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Unknown: So is there a case do
you think for tougher action

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00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,250
against social media companies?

566
00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:18,840
No question at all. And I think
there's a bipartisan position in

567
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,680
relation to this. This

568
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is exactly as I'd expect from x
or Twitter or whatever the

569
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,970
whatever you want to call it, a
disregard for the information

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that they pump into our
communities, lies and rumors

571
00:33:30,330 --> 00:33:33,720
spreading like wildfire. And
then when things go wrong,

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throwing their hands up in the
air to say that they're not

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prepared to do anything about
it. We

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know that the company so we're
seeing some of the comments from

575
00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:43,350
Elon Musk overnight, so they see
themselves above the law. We've

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had enough

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John C Dvorak: Sydney's had
enough media companies,

578
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including social media companies
have a responsibility to act. It

579
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shouldn't need the Safety
Commissioner to intervene. Hmm

580
00:33:56,910 --> 00:34:00,300
hmm. And that was everybody.
That's everybody from the

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political spectrum left to
right. Well,

582
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:04,050
Adam Curry: hold on doesn't
doesn't that kind of fall in

583
00:34:04,050 --> 00:34:07,680
line with I just said because
people aren't on X, Y, we will

584
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,760
call the people on X are saying
hey, Australia's crap, they went

585
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,970
to crap they're lost. Maybe
everybody's offended by that.

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00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:18,600
Could be just thank you. So

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John C Dvorak: let's go. Okay,
part two of this clip I think

588
00:34:20,610 --> 00:34:25,260
brings in Inman grant. And, and
you can hear her and listen to

589
00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:28,650
her accents because she, she's
introduced and if she's chatting

590
00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:32,760
right away, and this is not an
Australian accent I can I can

591
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,160
assure you I don't know what it
is. But it sounds like a

592
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,360
California girl.

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Unknown: Julie in man grant is
the Safety Commissioner. Well,

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we

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00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:44,790
have a range of graduated
powers, powers the civil

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00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:47,610
proceedings and we could take
them to court or we could find

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00:34:47,610 --> 00:34:48,180
them she

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00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:51,270
Adam Curry: has American Cali
Girl Up talk flowers. Yeah,

599
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:55,920
she's totally Of course she says
Um, well, what an offense.

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00:34:57,750 --> 00:35:01,050
Unknown: Julie in man grant is
the sad Commissioner, well, we

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00:35:01,050 --> 00:35:01,830
have a range

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00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:06,930
of graduated powers, there could
be civil proceedings, and we

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00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:10,260
could take them to court or we
could find them. Of course, the

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quantum of the fine would depend
on the gravity of the non

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00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,830
compliance. This is where we try
and work with the platforms to

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00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:19,920
either voluntarily raise this or
to use our codes and mandatory

607
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,050
standards to force compliance.
But we can use graduated tools

608
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,920
like LinkedIn Leisha notices, so
if they fail to remove the

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00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,220
content, then we can go to the
search engines such as Google or

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00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:36,330
Bing to really minimize the
amount of content the

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00:35:36,330 --> 00:35:37,500
Australians can see,

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since we'll work with the
Commonwealth Government to pull

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down those pages. But I can't
emphasize enough how difficult

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00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:47,940
it is to contain a combustible
situation. When false and

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00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:51,360
malicious rumors spread like
wildfire in our community, we

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00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,730
need to be in a position where
we're dealing with truth the

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00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:54,330
nation

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should be from police and law
enforcement authorities. And if

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people have concerns they should
check our websites, our socials

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00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:06,090
and any other direct news from
law enforcement about

621
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information,

622
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:10,350
act on advice and information
that's provided by the

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government or the police. So
please be assured that police

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00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,790
will be the source of truth, and
not social media and

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00:36:17,790 --> 00:36:18,660
misinformation.

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And then when it comes to the
misinformation and

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00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,750
disinformation, the government
does have was working on draft

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00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:29,580
laws to try and put in place and
much tougher rules for the

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00:36:29,580 --> 00:36:32,160
social media companies. Where
are you at on this? Are you

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,840
prepared to back such laws

631
00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:38,460
that we are and happy to have a
look at anything the government

632
00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:41,940
puts forward, as we've said over
the last week, with the

633
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:43,650
horrendous things that we've
seen as bad if

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00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,580
extra Commonwealth laws are
required to take down web pages

635
00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:51,810
that are inciting and smashing
cohesion in Australia's largest

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00:36:51,810 --> 00:36:53,730
city, then that's exactly what
needs to happen

637
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,520
there more more of this content
is up there. The more that is

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00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,160
reached shared, the more the
velocity and the virality

639
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,620
continues. And we need to stem
that

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00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:03,750
Adam Curry: velocity and
virality.

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00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:09,240
John C Dvorak: But my favorite
quote in that little commentary,

642
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,520
there was the police is the
source of truth. And that was a

643
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,720
cop saying that some won't
female police shut up slave

644
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:22,710
lease is the source. The police
are the source of truth.

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00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:27,300
Adam Curry: I consulted the book
of knowledge, and allow me to

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00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,530
share what we have learned from
Wikipedia about Julie Inman

647
00:37:31,530 --> 00:37:36,870
grant. She was born in 1968. In
Seattle, Washington. Ah, there

648
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:40,560
you go. The She's an American
public servant who is currently

649
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,410
serving as the Safety
Commissioner role, which leads

650
00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:45,930
Australia's independent
regulator for online safety.

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00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:51,450
After graduating from university
in early 1990s. Grant was

652
00:37:51,450 --> 00:37:57,510
offered a position as a Case
Agent with the CIA, but but

653
00:37:57,510 --> 00:38:01,350
declined the offer. As it meant,
quote, I won't be able to tell

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00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:05,340
my friends and family what I was
doing. She subsequently started

655
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:08,310
working in the public sector as
a policy advisor for United

656
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:12,090
States Congressman John Miller.
And then from 95 to 2000. She

657
00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:16,290
worked as a Government Affairs
Manager for Microsoft. And then

658
00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:20,730
she moved to Australia, she
married her now husband, and

659
00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:24,570
became the Asia Pacific director
of Internet safety, privacy and

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00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:30,450
security at Microsoft. So she
glows in the dark.

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00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,700
John C Dvorak: Yes, and this
spooky thing is interesting,

662
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:39,570
because I think, I don't know if
you can tell by seeing what's

663
00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:43,200
missing from that that to say
that she is actually is working

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for the CIA? Oh, yeah. Clearly
would, she would and the cover

665
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,610
would be Oh, I refused that job.
Because I wouldn't be able to

666
00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:54,360
tell my friends what I do. And
then all of a sudden she's

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,490
running security in Australia.

668
00:38:56,490 --> 00:38:59,220
Adam Curry: She refused. She
only refused the case. Agent Job

669
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:02,550
didn't say she refused. CIA
position. Just

670
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:05,970
John C Dvorak: case ah, ah,
good. Good catch on the parsing.

671
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,180
Yes. That's how we do it. That's
how we do it. So that's what's

672
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:13,800
going on there. So the CIA is?
Yeah. Okay. So let's go through

673
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,180
this, the last clip of the
group.

674
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,810
Unknown: There we go. The Online
Safety Act has significant

675
00:39:18,810 --> 00:39:21,840
powers. You know, we passed it
when we're in government, and it

676
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,890
needs to be enforced. It's

677
00:39:22,890 --> 00:39:26,100
about time that we strengthen
rules in relation to the E

678
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:27,780
Safety Commissioner. There's an

679
00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:32,220
age verification recommended by
the Safety Commissioner from

680
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:34,710
2023. We think that's something
that government should pick up.

681
00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:35,430
So you get out

682
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:38,700
why we've just put some very
strong mandatory codes in place

683
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,860
to encourage companies to do
more.

684
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,980
If the laws are inadequate, and
they need to be strengthened or

685
00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:46,680
added to then we would support
any effort from the government

686
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:47,100
were

687
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:51,090
John C Dvorak: prepared to take
whatever action is necessary to

688
00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:53,160
hold these companies into law

689
00:39:53,250 --> 00:39:56,640
Unknown: to really minimize the
amount of content the

690
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,770
Australians can see. They're

691
00:39:58,770 --> 00:40:01,200
Adam Curry: going to cut off
their internet They're gonna get

692
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,120
to kangaroo social media.

693
00:40:03,810 --> 00:40:08,310
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
why. What's the big deal? She at

694
00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:11,580
the end? I think it was the
kicker, she says we have to make

695
00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:16,200
sure that we we control what
Australians can see,

696
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:18,540
Adam Curry: let me just hear
that exact quote again, because

697
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:22,680
that is quite beautiful. It's
here again here to hold these

698
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,970
companies into law

699
00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:27,480
Unknown: to really minimize the
amount of content the

700
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Australians can see. minimize

701
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,130
Adam Curry: the amount of that
goes to show.

702
00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:36,570
John C Dvorak: This is why Yeah,
it goes to show everybody we

703
00:40:36,570 --> 00:40:40,170
will be cut off this show, which
does nothing more than analyze

704
00:40:40,170 --> 00:40:44,700
news stories will be cut off
from Australia as Will everyone

705
00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:48,570
because they are going there
trying to control the flow of

706
00:40:48,570 --> 00:40:53,670
information into Australia from
outside sources. Why? I mean,

707
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:58,170
what's the end game here besides
just control the a is

708
00:40:58,170 --> 00:41:00,030
Adam Curry: there any of
population or any other end

709
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:03,000
game? That's that is the end
game, isn't it? Just control the

710
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:04,050
point

711
00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:07,110
John C Dvorak: would be, I
guess, because I guess maybe

712
00:41:07,110 --> 00:41:10,860
we're going to set a basis there
or discuss some do with China.

713
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:14,580
There's there's a there's an
underlying reason for this that

714
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:17,760
we don't understand. But it has
to No, no. The military

715
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,750
industrial complex.

716
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:21,120
Adam Curry: Well, perhaps, but I
think it's simpler than that.

717
00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:25,470
Australia was the first one to
they were really the test case.

718
00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:29,670
Here's your job. Shut up. Stay
home. We're cordoning off you to

719
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:33,720
pass to get out of your city.
That's what happened. I think

720
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:34,080
this is

721
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,760
John C Dvorak: they didn't have
they didn't have that little

722
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,280
element. We keep forgetting
about the past. Yeah.

723
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:42,090
Adam Curry: Can we break a
country? Can we break so

724
00:41:42,090 --> 00:41:43,650
John C Dvorak: you're just
thinking Australia's a giant

725
00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:45,810
test tube? Yeah,

726
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Adam Curry: in a way? Sure.
Sure. I mean, if they broke

727
00:41:49,650 --> 00:41:54,780
Chris Wilson to a degree. That's
a broken man. I've talked to him

728
00:41:54,810 --> 00:41:58,140
frequently. Not not really
often, but he's like, I'm still

729
00:41:58,140 --> 00:42:01,320
overboard. And you know, he's
he's just trying to get along

730
00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:05,460
the broken people there. And
that response I got from the

731
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:06,300
travel agent.

732
00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:09,960
John C Dvorak: That's that
respect is an important story.

733
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,620
Yeah,

734
00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:12,510
Adam Curry: it's there's some
there's something something

735
00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:17,700
really something broke. And they
don't and they they have no, at

736
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,240
least in America, we think like,
oh, yeah, man, we got guns.

737
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:28,020
Okay, sure. Let's go everybody,
you first. We got I got I got

738
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:32,730
2000 rounds. But you know, so
that that may be actually quite

739
00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:35,850
genius, because we just think
that we could always take it

740
00:42:35,850 --> 00:42:39,480
back. But I don't really see any
evidence that that that there's

741
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,330
anyone with enough coats bar to
do it on mass mass. However,

742
00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:49,680
it's gonna get interesting. We
have now in Fredericksburg, the

743
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,090
heart of the Texas Hill Country,
Trump land travel sign, you now

744
00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:00,360
entering Trump land. Shaq, Shaq
has now entered our school

745
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:07,290
system. S H AC the School Health
Advisory Committee. This is so

746
00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:09,720
this is Oh, I thought you were
talking about Shaquille O'Neal.

747
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:15,330
If only? No, no, this is this is
the outfit. You know, the

748
00:43:15,330 --> 00:43:20,040
organization. They came from
Austin and they bring in health

749
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,260
consultants and they put up QR
codes in the school. Hey kids,

750
00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:33,480
you feel a little gay? Yeah.
And, and the books they put the

751
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,590
books in the library and so the
ladies got together yes, they

752
00:43:37,620 --> 00:43:40,950
kudos to the ladies. If these
are books for nine years, nine

753
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:44,670
year olds, about you know
jerking off and wet dreams and

754
00:43:44,670 --> 00:43:48,180
this nine year olds it's
questionable whether schools

755
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:51,540
should be teaching children
about anything of this nature.

756
00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:55,290
John C Dvorak: And they can't
they can't add in

757
00:43:55,950 --> 00:44:00,150
Adam Curry: what else you're
gonna do I have a mobile play

758
00:44:00,150 --> 00:44:09,870
with this thing and so they the
women went on mass yesterday and

759
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:13,770
and so they they get the gaining
some ground that was there were

760
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:16,890
supposed to approve all these
books and they delayed this vote

761
00:44:16,890 --> 00:44:21,900
and it's they was calm, but I
have a feeling that that it's

762
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:23,190
it's going and the whole

763
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:26,160
John C Dvorak: idea that this is
that moms for Liberty operation

764
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,460
right

765
00:44:26,490 --> 00:44:31,110
Adam Curry: not just no just
just expectant moms parents it's

766
00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:33,930
for Liberty plus Yes, it's mom's
for Liberty plus

767
00:44:33,930 --> 00:44:35,670
John C Dvorak: well that's
what's needed everywhere, but

768
00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:38,760
they'll they'll beat them back
somehow. Well,

769
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:41,910
Adam Curry: I'm not so sure. And
it was it was mainly the the

770
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:46,140
amount the the number of women
who showed up good you know, it

771
00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:51,360
was it was just so much and no
one of the school board members

772
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,420
said to someone we know like,
Hey, you got to keep control

773
00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:58,170
your group. Like I don't control
anything. This these are

774
00:44:58,170 --> 00:45:02,100
concerned parents. Yes. Sadly,
because there are people on the

775
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,100
pro side of this nice not just
you know, there's this a divided

776
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:09,870
little city here with less than
a half 1000 people. And they

777
00:45:09,870 --> 00:45:13,140
believe they've been
propagandized into believing

778
00:45:13,350 --> 00:45:17,310
that this is a health issue. And
that you know, when your kid is,

779
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,960
you know, feeling gay or trans
or whatever, that you know, this

780
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,840
will prevent them from killing
themselves, which of course, we

781
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,370
know that all of these measures
from the CAS report, it wasn't

782
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:33,600
not the CAS. Yeah. Casper, USS
Cass review. I think it is

783
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,990
John C Dvorak: a review of all
the everything ever printed on

784
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:37,620
that

785
00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:41,910
Adam Curry: all of it is just
not well, not doing well. That

786
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:45,540
was good. It's fraud. Yes, it's
a it's a huge fraud. Now, of

787
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:49,350
course, the cast review gets
zero attention, because there's

788
00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:54,000
way too much money involved.
Anyway, so that's playing out

789
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,990
here in Little Fredericksburg.
It's fascinating. So this this

790
00:45:57,990 --> 00:46:00,420
is a global push.

791
00:46:01,650 --> 00:46:04,440
John C Dvorak: Frederick,
Fredericksburg would be a

792
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:10,950
target. Because he has course,
because it has its normal

793
00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:15,870
politics and then the influence
of nearby Austin, which is the

794
00:46:15,870 --> 00:46:18,750
most influential city in the
entire state. Yes.

795
00:46:18,750 --> 00:46:23,250
Adam Curry: And of course,
Hollywood. I mean, oh, I think

796
00:46:23,250 --> 00:46:27,360
the proportion of trans kids in
Hollywood is is way higher than

797
00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:31,650
than anywhere else in America. I
always have to laugh me see.

798
00:46:32,010 --> 00:46:38,490
What's her name from the Dr.
Commercial? She has a an adopted

799
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:42,240
black son who she dresses in a
in a dress. What's her name

800
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:42,690
again?

801
00:46:43,170 --> 00:46:44,490
Unknown: Yeah, I mean, two

802
00:46:44,490 --> 00:46:46,200
Adam Curry: kids. It's like what
do you do? She's

803
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,540
John C Dvorak: got two kids
somehow.

804
00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:52,560
Adam Curry: Feel what are the
chances? So I mean, in the

805
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,890
troll, Iran Charlize Theron, the
run

806
00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:56,730
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she is.

807
00:46:57,390 --> 00:47:01,020
Adam Curry: But I mean, a lot. A
lot of these women in Hollywood

808
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:05,670
have this. It's like, what? What
is going on you? Pet I'm not

809
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:08,610
supposed to say Wiccans. I'm so
say witches. Their witches is

810
00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:12,570
correct. But with the I got the
United States association of

811
00:47:12,570 --> 00:47:15,150
Wiccans. And that a little
upset. Hey, we're a farm club.

812
00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:15,270
They

813
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:16,290
John C Dvorak: sent you a note.
Yeah,

814
00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:19,350
Adam Curry: we're a fun loving
group. Let's stop it. Witches.

815
00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:23,400
Yes, we're against witches, but
we're of the wicked tribe. So

816
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:27,510
don't mess with us. I like okay,
all right. Which is ever which

817
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:31,350
is it is. But you know, there's
there's stuff ending. It's

818
00:47:31,350 --> 00:47:35,760
interesting to watch. We have a
particularly I think dei folds

819
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,450
into this and it is unfolding
before our very eyes. You sent

820
00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:44,970
me the link that the Women Who
Code organization has folded,

821
00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:49,110
folded. I mean, they couldn't
they couldn't even keep that

822
00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:52,860
going. That was a Kara Swisher
or thing, wasn't it.

823
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:56,040
John C Dvorak: Women who had
PCOS, it was they started in San

824
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:02,340
Francisco in I think 2011. And
then it by 2018. They, I don't

825
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:07,650
know why. But they moved to
Atlanta. Which is like, you

826
00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:10,290
know, if you know, there were
certain there are certain

827
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:14,760
geographical areas that you want
to be in because of certain, you

828
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,840
know, there's, I don't want to
call it a vibe or a milieu or

829
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,920
whatever it is. But Silicon
Valley, where this actually San

830
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,720
Francisco, which is not Silicon
Valley Tech, technically, is

831
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:31,320
different than Atlanta when it
comes to having the different

832
00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:34,650
types of people. And so they
moved to Atlanta, which I

833
00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:39,000
thought was a blunder and then
they had a just in January, they

834
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,530
hired a new woman who was a dei
specialist. Yes, she had a

835
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:48,840
certificate shot, but she's
actually a she was actually kind

836
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,440
of a chief technical officer
type. Even I would even say

837
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,910
maybe a bean counter type and
she got a certificate which you

838
00:48:56,910 --> 00:49:00,570
could get from her I guess the
school she went to and dei and

839
00:49:00,570 --> 00:49:03,750
she took over the operation in
January and four months later

840
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:06,210
folded it would they brought in
some new board members and say

841
00:49:06,210 --> 00:49:09,690
were this no go raid group
closing down and all the

842
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:14,100
individual units were they had
they were trying to confiscate

843
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:16,350
their money now there's a big
battle going on. Oh, for the

844
00:49:16,350 --> 00:49:21,120
money guys trying to get the
chapters. Brother. So and

845
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,140
there's a couple of tough women
that are involved. You can tell

846
00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:27,300
because there's different
threads you can follow and say

847
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:31,590
wow, this girl's means business.
Yeah. And there is not over.

848
00:49:32,550 --> 00:49:35,910
Adam Curry: So okay, so Dei,
there you go. Then we have

849
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:39,510
another story. This is most
prophecy by the way. The dei is

850
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:43,350
unfold. Not at the that Women
Who Code she wasn't she wasn't

851
00:49:43,350 --> 00:49:46,740
black. She's a white woman.
Deliberately

852
00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:49,920
John C Dvorak: the new CEO the
DEI, yeah, she's kind of a

853
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,990
middle aged white woman. Okay.

854
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:56,430
Adam Curry: We do have the DEI
official at UCLA School of

855
00:49:56,430 --> 00:49:59,460
Medicine. Turns out she
massively plagiarize her

856
00:49:59,460 --> 00:50:08,400
dissertation. mission on D. Dei.
I'm a DI official I plagiarize

857
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,260
my dissertation on Dei,
terrible. And then big story in

858
00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:18,720
The New York Times about the
inside the crisis at NPR. And a

859
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:23,580
lot of it is, of course, you
know, podcasting. Of course,

860
00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:27,030
podcasting is a much more
efficient way to distribute

861
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:29,910
instead of having expensive
radio stations and you know, you

862
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:33,960
need people to run the buildings
and the transmitters. With

863
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,830
podcasting, they also don't have
to adhere to the underwriting,

864
00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:41,280
they could just go straight on
ads, which is a big improvement

865
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:47,610
for them. But also, there was a
lot of dei stuff. I quote from

866
00:50:47,610 --> 00:50:50,460
the article. So it came as a
disappointment to some people on

867
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:54,030
NPRs board last fall, when they
were presented with new internal

868
00:50:54,030 --> 00:50:56,940
data showing their efforts
hadn't moved the needle much

869
00:50:56,940 --> 00:51:00,660
with blackness that Hispanic
listeners, black listeners made

870
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:04,650
up roughly 11% of NPRs audience
in the second quarter of 2023,

871
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,890
unchanged from the same period
and 2020. According to the data.

872
00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:11,340
The data further show that the
share of Hispanic listeners went

873
00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:14,910
up only two percentage points
since 2020, to account for 16%

874
00:51:14,910 --> 00:51:19,110
of the total audience. 120 20
survey from Pew Research found

875
00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:22,320
that of the people who named NPR
as their main source for

876
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,900
political and election news 75%
were white, more than any other

877
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:32,370
outlet except for Fox News. So
they're literally number two in

878
00:51:32,370 --> 00:51:39,540
white supremacy. And here's the
is this is the funny thing. So

879
00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:43,620
this this shows you how these
people were thinking NPRs

880
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:47,100
efforts to diversify itself and
its audience didn't always live

881
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:50,670
up to the expectations of the
people who work there. During a

882
00:51:50,670 --> 00:51:55,050
round of layoffs last year, NPR
cut louder than a riot, a hip

883
00:51:55,050 --> 00:51:59,130
hop podcast that examines black
and queer issues. Okay, let's

884
00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:03,270
stop right there. Here's the
meeting. Hey, we need to dei and

885
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:07,380
diversify. I know black people
like hip hop. Yeah, let's get

886
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:11,610
let's find some black queer
people and make a show. G and it

887
00:52:11,610 --> 00:52:14,220
didn't work. You're kidding,
right?

888
00:52:15,450 --> 00:52:18,810
John C Dvorak: I mean, so play
this clip was and then continue

889
00:52:18,810 --> 00:52:21,270
your rant but played his first
escape from last show. So you

890
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:24,780
had to look it up his podcast ad
black stories. This is the

891
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latest NPR attempt to make a
podcast that appeals to blacks

892
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:33,600
Unknown: in this country. Some
truths aren't self evident. And

893
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894
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people who tell them we

895
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896
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truths. wherever you get

897
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podcasts. Oh,

898
00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:54,990
Adam Curry: goodness. Yeah. No
wonder this fails. Guess it may

899
00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:58,110
come as a surprise to you. NPR.
Black people don't even want to

900
00:52:58,110 --> 00:53:01,860
be seen as black people. They're
just Americans. They're

901
00:53:01,860 --> 00:53:04,890
interested in stuff, but you're
pandering.

902
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,190
John C Dvorak: pandering. We
worry. That's the word of the

903
00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:09,570
day. pandering.

904
00:53:09,630 --> 00:53:14,490
Adam Curry: It's creepy. just
creepy. Like da. I wonder that

905
00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:17,520
didn't work. And now I've now
just like this E Safety Lady

906
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:22,290
that bringing in some spook here
to run the NP Rs. Oh, yeah. What

907
00:53:22,290 --> 00:53:26,220
do you give her? Six months?
What do you think? How long does

908
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:26,910
it woohoo, there's

909
00:53:26,910 --> 00:53:29,550
John C Dvorak: a dead Deadpool
Deadpool, Deadpool,

910
00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:32,010
Adam Curry: NPR, Deadpool. What
do you what do you good

911
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:34,170
question. What do you give her?
What do you give her? I can't

912
00:53:34,170 --> 00:53:37,110
give her more than six months.
It just seems like I mean,

913
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:39,570
they're gonna because they do
quarterly reporting. It's gonna

914
00:53:39,570 --> 00:53:45,450
suck. And you know, that was
since 2020 22. I was well, by

915
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:45,600
the

916
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,640
John C Dvorak: way just to be
before I want you to continue.

917
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:52,830
But before that guy Yuri, that
wrote that piece that got fired,

918
00:53:52,830 --> 00:53:56,310
basically, yeah. Because of
this. He wrote a piece in

919
00:53:56,310 --> 00:53:59,970
between the two CEOs hoping that
he would, you know, achieve

920
00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:03,000
favor with a newcomer coming in.
But when she came in, she got

921
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,900
rid of him because she's like
any other. You know, some well,

922
00:54:06,930 --> 00:54:09,990
that troublemaker get him out
that chopper? Yes, of course.

923
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:12,870
And so she got rid of him that I
think is going to come back to

924
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:16,680
bite her in the acid that will
affect the timeline of her

925
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,750
disappearance, too, and I think
it will negatively show thank

926
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:26,070
you. I think you was shortened
to me as six months. I'm going

927
00:54:26,070 --> 00:54:27,480
to give her a year.

928
00:54:29,070 --> 00:54:31,290
Adam Curry: Well, she had she'll
have a year contract at least

929
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,010
here's the here's the stat. NPR
still has an audience of about

930
00:54:35,010 --> 00:54:39,480
42 million who listen every
week, many of them digitally

931
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,400
which is down from an estimated
60 million in 2020. So even

932
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,650
though they went all in on
podcast, they still lost 18

933
00:54:49,650 --> 00:54:50,730
million listeners

934
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,130
John C Dvorak: and then she
intimidates a lot. And

935
00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:55,680
Adam Curry: then okay, so talk
about your value for value.

936
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:02,610
These people are such idiots.
Hold on a second. They, whereas

937
00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:09,210
it, they put together a podcast
subscription service. Here it is

938
00:55:10,350 --> 00:55:15,420
the adoption of NPRs podcast
subscription bundle. Bundle

939
00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:20,700
bundle NPR plus has also lagged
behind competitors subscription

940
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:25,140
business, according to internal
documents obtained by The Times

941
00:55:25,140 --> 00:55:30,840
nice hit job times 51,000 people
subscribed to NPR plus as of

942
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,000
March, early March, this is
since 2022. And they've done

943
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:42,270
about 1.7 million in revenue.
That's a failed product, if

944
00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:46,410
you've got 60 mil Okay, let's
say 42 million listeners, and

945
00:55:46,410 --> 00:55:51,420
you do a subscription bundle.
And only 51,000 people sign up

946
00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:53,730
for it. That's a that's a big
fail.

947
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,290
John C Dvorak: Well, it either
that was a big fail and under

948
00:55:58,290 --> 00:56:02,280
any circumstances, but it also
indicates to me, the podcast is

949
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,560
broken. No, it indicates to me
that their numbers are not

950
00:56:08,250 --> 00:56:13,650
accurate. What do you mean, the
big number, the big number of

951
00:56:13,650 --> 00:56:15,480
taking a percentage of the big
number which

952
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,620
Adam Curry: is what? Yeah,

953
00:56:16,650 --> 00:56:19,950
John C Dvorak: the million? No,
they don't have that's bull

954
00:56:19,950 --> 00:56:23,850
crap. They only have 52,000
people that are subscribing.

955
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:28,530
Yeah, that 50 to that 50 million
is bogus. They're probably have

956
00:56:28,530 --> 00:56:34,020
a few million maybe. And they're
double counting, triple

957
00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:36,960
counting, quadruple counting.
They're fudging the number.

958
00:56:36,990 --> 00:56:39,330
Yeah, to make it look like
there's more there that but then

959
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:43,350
they screw themselves. Because
in any sort of situation where

960
00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:49,140
you're doing. You're trying to
get funds from an x from

961
00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:51,840
eyeballs. So you have your
eyeballs and you have the money

962
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,200
coming from the eyeballs. The
percentages are well known to

963
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,650
everybody who does that kind of
work. And the numbers that

964
00:56:58,650 --> 00:57:00,930
you're expressing do not match.
I'm with you.

965
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,340
Adam Curry: I'm with you. I'm
with you. So

966
00:57:02,340 --> 00:57:05,940
John C Dvorak: they're full of
it. They're lying. I want to

967
00:57:06,180 --> 00:57:09,060
Adam Curry: get into some of the
protests. And I'll just have one

968
00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:11,250
clip to start off with and then
you can take it away. I've see

969
00:57:11,250 --> 00:57:14,610
you have a couple of clips.
Yeah, yeah, I've seen you got

970
00:57:14,610 --> 00:57:17,250
climene I got clips. But again,
you got clips. You always want

971
00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:18,330
to play clips. You

972
00:57:18,330 --> 00:57:19,950
John C Dvorak: got clip clips,
we

973
00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:24,360
Adam Curry: got clips. So these
something not you not blaming

974
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,660
you, but something is knocking
against your microphone. I don't

975
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:28,380
know. Well, no,

976
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:30,840
John C Dvorak: I know exactly
what it is. Okay, it's not it's

977
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,880
not knocking against the
microphone. It's not you just

978
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,670
have to tell you that I know I
can fix it. I just haven't been

979
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:36,210
able to

980
00:57:38,790 --> 00:57:40,980
Adam Curry: blame you. I know
it's mad. It's coming from

981
00:57:40,980 --> 00:57:42,690
yours. I can only rooms

982
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:46,980
John C Dvorak: it's it's it's a
high. It's it's a long story. I

983
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:51,150
won't bother you if it was a mic
bump, it would sound like this.

984
00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:54,870
Which by the way, somebody said
that if I did that, they'd say

985
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:59,100
donate. I just did it. It again.
I mean to donations. Thank

986
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,830
Adam Curry: you. It's more of
the sound. It's more like that.

987
00:58:02,430 --> 00:58:03,060
Yeah, well,

988
00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:04,710
John C Dvorak: I know what it
is. I did sorry.

989
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,920
Adam Curry: Okay. And you know
what we don't want to know. But

990
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:10,470
you don't want to know, we don't
want to know what it is. I just

991
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:16,200
want to point it out. Okay, so
these kids who are protesting

992
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,760
and all the universities. So
there's a couple things going

993
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,780
on. First, some observations. I
see a lot of the same green

994
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:28,410
tents. That's just an
observation, everybody, the same

995
00:58:28,410 --> 00:58:32,100
green tent. So there's as
obviously as clearly organized.

996
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:37,080
There was I got a short little
clip you may have seen this one

997
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,510
from NYU, where there's a couple
of protesters. And and by the

998
00:58:42,510 --> 00:58:47,220
way, what's with the masks? Are
they afraid of COVID Still,

999
00:58:47,340 --> 00:58:50,280
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. This
is how smart they are. They're

1000
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,470
all they're all wearing a
calendar wearing Spanish flu

1001
00:58:55,530 --> 00:58:58,230
Adam Curry: as something's going
on. And so this is one girl and

1002
00:58:58,230 --> 00:59:02,040
she's she's mildly cute, you
know, and she's doozy. gastic

1003
00:59:02,310 --> 00:59:04,770
although she has loved this
clip, she has this nose ring

1004
00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:07,560
which I just want to clip a dog
leash to right away. She does

1005
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,330
that with my daughter if she
came home with that ring like

1006
00:59:09,330 --> 00:59:14,400
click okay, come on. And she and
her compatriots there are

1007
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,730
clueless and what would you say
is the main goal with tonight's

1008
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:18,780
protests?

1009
00:59:18,810 --> 00:59:21,090
Unknown: I think the goal is
showing our support for

1010
00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:26,760
Palestine and demanding that and
I honestly don't know is there

1011
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,220
something that NYU is doing? I
really don't I'm pretty sure

1012
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:41,790
there about Israel protesting
here that was more educated. I

1013
00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:49,440
was there so I came down and I
heard there's lots of cops are

1014
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:49,740
saying

1015
00:59:49,740 --> 00:59:53,130
Adam Curry: it was okay, so I
should really I'd like to be

1016
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:56,130
more educated so they are
undereducated and over

1017
00:59:56,130 --> 01:00:00,510
socialized which is what we saw
with the BLM riots and boy

1018
01:00:00,510 --> 01:00:03,810
didn't that turn out to be a big
farce a big phony, a big money

1019
01:00:03,810 --> 01:00:07,650
grab a big write off for
hundreds of millions of dollars

1020
01:00:07,650 --> 01:00:11,550
for corporate America. But
they're really not like we hate

1021
01:00:11,550 --> 01:00:15,930
Jews. We hate Jews. There's no
anti semitism going on. I've

1022
01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:18,840
looked at, you know, not ours,
but I've looked at a lot of

1023
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:24,090
footage. No, there's a couple of
Ajaan provocateurs, particularly

1024
01:00:24,090 --> 01:00:26,820
in New York to some dude is
like, watch me I've got a

1025
01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:29,460
yarmulke. And in Israel flag,
it's it's almost like memory

1026
01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:33,690
Kentucky Fried movie. There's
this fantasy that does. That

1027
01:00:33,690 --> 01:00:36,480
thrill seeker thing was the
thrill seeker guy for the

1028
01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:39,030
Kentucky Fried movie. If you
haven't seen it, it's almost

1029
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:42,750
required watching although I'm
sure very, very dated. And he

1030
01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:46,110
would have got a crash helmet on
and a cape. And there were a

1031
01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:48,840
bunch of black guys playing
craps on the street and he went

1032
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,540
right in the middle of them and
he yells the N word, which back

1033
01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:56,130
then you could still say and and
that was you know, that's how

1034
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,490
dumb this is like, Oh, well,
this guy is wearing his Israel

1035
01:00:59,490 --> 01:01:02,370
flag. Well, of course you're
gonna get people yelling at you

1036
01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:06,150
but in general there's all these
tents and like Jews for

1037
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:09,600
Palestine we love Jews, you
know, all of that stuff. There's

1038
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:15,090
no one is being anti semitic
except the politicians. Good

1039
01:01:15,090 --> 01:01:17,610
Unknown: morning. There is
another demonstration expected

1040
01:01:17,610 --> 01:01:20,550
here later today. The Texas
State Employees Union had

1041
01:01:20,550 --> 01:01:23,460
planned a demonstration for a
while in support of staff

1042
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:25,020
associated with dei Pro.

1043
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,830
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is kind
of interesting. That's an aside

1044
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:33,570
and kind of a follow on UT
Austin just fired all of their

1045
01:01:33,570 --> 01:01:37,410
dei people so So on one hand
they they're like, Oh, we better

1046
01:01:37,410 --> 01:01:40,770
get rid of this. This is not
good. We dei is collapsing. And

1047
01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:44,400
they probably have a bunch of
these. I don't know plagiarize

1048
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,000
errs in there like because it's
close to division. So it was

1049
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,050
already tense

1050
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,810
Unknown: as union had planned a
demonstration for a while in

1051
01:01:51,810 --> 01:01:55,560
supportive staff associated with
dei programs who are now losing

1052
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,890
their job here on campus, but
now, student groups say that

1053
01:01:58,890 --> 01:02:02,280
they will join them in another
walkout in the first walkout

1054
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,180
that they called for yesterday,
ended up being chaotic. The

1055
01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:08,730
student Palestine Solidarity
committee had planned this

1056
01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:12,060
walkout the university had told
them the event would not be

1057
01:02:12,060 --> 01:02:14,700
approved saying that there's a
time and place for everything,

1058
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,580
but that they couldn't disrupt
campus with final exams next

1059
01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:21,150
week. Well, UT police and Texas
DPS they were ready and they

1060
01:02:21,150 --> 01:02:24,300
quickly issue orders for the
crowd to disperse. They started

1061
01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:27,150
pushing groups back off the main
lawn and when demonstrators

1062
01:02:27,150 --> 01:02:30,360
would not leave. They started
making arrests this morning,

1063
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:35,130
Texas DPS as law enforcement on
campus made 34 arrests, and

1064
01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:38,700
there was immediately a public
call for protesters to then call

1065
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:42,210
the jail and demand their
release and begin raising money

1066
01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:45,720
for bail. Governor Greg Abbott
immediately back the strong

1067
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,410
response posting this on acts as
the demonstration was happening.

1068
01:02:49,710 --> 01:02:53,580
These protesters belong in jail,
anti semitism will not be

1069
01:02:53,580 --> 01:02:57,600
tolerated in Texas period.
Students joining in hate filled

1070
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,070
anti semitic protests at any
public college or university in

1071
01:03:02,070 --> 01:03:04,230
Texas should be expelled.

1072
01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:08,130
Adam Curry: This is bullcrap.
That's that's our governor

1073
01:03:08,310 --> 01:03:11,970
saying, oh, anti semitism. No.
This is the idea.

1074
01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:14,550
John C Dvorak: I think people
out there should be reminded

1075
01:03:14,550 --> 01:03:20,910
that Greg Abbott is the governor
of Texas. This is disliked by

1076
01:03:20,910 --> 01:03:23,670
you. He's a globe because you
think he's a big phony. He's

1077
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:26,580
Adam Curry: a big phony
globalist he gets a pass because

1078
01:03:26,580 --> 01:03:30,900
of wheelchair. Yeah. But we're
not. We're on to you, Abbott.

1079
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:34,710
No, he's a phony. Just phony
things at the border with a

1080
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:38,280
phony Little Eagle Pass, bro.
Here's offense. Oh, we're gonna

1081
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,970
stop here. We got Forward
Operating Base. Now you're done.

1082
01:03:41,970 --> 01:03:46,320
He's a phony. He's a big phony.
And now and here he is ginning

1083
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,280
it up. Janet. Oh, it's empty. Is
Deutsche Avella to add to it.

1084
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,830
Unknown: This is definitely a
nationwide topic you just

1085
01:03:52,830 --> 01:03:55,080
mentioned the White House. We
also had the Secretary of

1086
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,010
Education who weighed in here
say that what he has seen on

1087
01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:02,940
campus is it's a disgrace the
White House a press release that

1088
01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:06,390
they send out saying that anti
semitism has no space not only

1089
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:09,600
in any college across the
country, but also anywhere. And

1090
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,110
as we who are also the concerns
of Jewish students but also a

1091
01:04:13,110 --> 01:04:16,560
faculty members are rabid close
to the university even told

1092
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,190
Jewish students to stay away.
But there it's important to make

1093
01:04:20,190 --> 01:04:22,620
a difference between the
protesters protesting inside the

1094
01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:26,010
university but also also when we
came here earlier today we were

1095
01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:29,730
hearing is some chance also some
people were here is saying and

1096
01:04:29,730 --> 01:04:32,340
rejecting a two state solution
quite different to the chance

1097
01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:35,700
that we're here in cyber we can
imagine that this will still

1098
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:38,370
develop as we see more and more
universities more of this

1099
01:04:38,370 --> 01:04:40,320
protest also happening across
the country.

1100
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,410
Adam Curry: Again that just
parroting whatever the CIA told

1101
01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:46,620
them because this this is a scam
they're setting it up and making

1102
01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:50,790
it look like these kids hate
Jews. It's not this is not what

1103
01:04:50,850 --> 01:04:54,210
it's blatantly false because
that's not what the chants are.

1104
01:04:54,900 --> 01:05:00,960
There's none of that it's pro
Palestine, BDS You know,

1105
01:05:00,990 --> 01:05:04,170
boycott, divest and divest and
sanction they want the

1106
01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:09,300
universities to no longer invest
in Israel whatever but but stop

1107
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:12,420
the genocide but they're not
saying we hate Jews that just

1108
01:05:12,420 --> 01:05:15,720
not it and even Mike Johnson was
doing Do you have that on your I

1109
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,040
John C Dvorak: had the Mike
Johnson clip.

1110
01:05:17,370 --> 01:05:20,460
Adam Curry: Let me see where is
it? There Mike Johnson that

1111
01:05:20,460 --> 01:05:22,890
would make sense. Here we have
Columbia House Speaker

1112
01:05:22,890 --> 01:05:25,380
Unknown: Mike Johnson in New
York City today meeting with

1113
01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:28,500
students as he calls for
Columbia University's president

1114
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:32,400
to resign. And Denise White
House correspondent Iris Tao was

1115
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,010
at the speaker's press
conference after meeting with

1116
01:05:35,010 --> 01:05:38,250
Columbia University's president
minutiae feet here on campus

1117
01:05:38,250 --> 01:05:41,580
House Speaker Mike Johnson says
she needs to step down and she's

1118
01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:43,380
too weak and protecting Jewish
religion

1119
01:05:43,380 --> 01:05:46,230
is that they have not acted to
restore order on the campus.

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01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:49,920
This is dangerous. This is not
free, free expression. This is

1121
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,570
not First Amendment they are
threatening intimidating. Saying

1122
01:05:54,570 --> 01:05:56,910
that they will take violence
upon Jewish students we met with

1123
01:05:56,910 --> 01:05:59,670
Jewish students who are in fear,
they can't come on campus.

1124
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,370
Meanwhile, Johnson was booed by
pro Palestinian protesters

1125
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,630
during his press conference.
Though he responded with a blunt

1126
01:06:09,630 --> 01:06:10,410
message does

1127
01:06:10,410 --> 01:06:13,620
not matter who shouts in our
faces, we're gonna do what is

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01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:15,990
right by America, my message to
the students inside the

1129
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:19,890
encampment is get go back to
class and stop the nonsense.

1130
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:21,600
Stop wasting your parents money.

1131
01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:24,870
Adam Curry: And Johnson says you
also pro that's by the way, just

1132
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:28,590
as a nice stop that for a second
that was edited together because

1133
01:06:28,590 --> 01:06:32,910
I saw the whole thing and he's
up there and some dude next to

1134
01:06:32,910 --> 01:06:36,990
him, some Texas Congressman said
Stop wasting your parents money

1135
01:06:36,990 --> 01:06:39,240
and he said yeah, stop wasting
your parents money. That's what

1136
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,300
the Congressman just said. They
cut that out of this report.

1137
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:44,280
That's interesting. Go back to
class and

1138
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,190
Unknown: stop that nonsense.
Stop wasting your parents money.

1139
01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:51,060
Adam Curry: I said it. Yeah,
it's a good edit. But it's their

1140
01:06:51,090 --> 01:06:54,180
Unknown: plans to call President
Biden tell him what he's seen

1141
01:06:54,180 --> 01:06:57,360
here and also demand him take
executive action to address

1142
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,870
this. President Biden on Monday
said he condemns anti semitic

1143
01:07:00,870 --> 01:07:03,780
protests but also condensed
those who don't understand

1144
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:06,720
what's going on with the
Palestinians. Former President

1145
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,530
Trump says Biden does not know
who he's backing. All this as

1146
01:07:10,530 --> 01:07:13,830
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
and Yahoo on Wednesday, call the

1147
01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:16,680
situation on American college
campuses horrific.

1148
01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:21,330
What's happening on America's
college campuses? Is a rift is

1149
01:07:21,330 --> 01:07:23,910
horrific. This is

1150
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,180
Adam Curry: perfect. All right.
So interesting. I have a

1151
01:07:27,180 --> 01:07:31,080
different clip of Mike Johnson.
And it's funny that he starts to

1152
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,190
say this is not free speech.
What is he talking about? He's

1153
01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:39,420
that's that's the literal
expression of free speech.

1154
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:42,570
John C Dvorak: And he when I saw
the way I saw another one, this

1155
01:07:42,570 --> 01:07:45,960
is million clips of him. But
first of all, let's start with

1156
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,890
the fact that he's showboating.
There's no reason for Mike

1157
01:07:49,890 --> 01:07:54,330
Johnson go to Columbia. Yeah.
Oh, really? There's no reason

1158
01:07:54,330 --> 01:07:58,500
for Mike Johnson to GoJek is the
speaker of the house. Why is he

1159
01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:02,820
at Columbia, he's just to show
up the fact that Biden will go

1160
01:08:02,820 --> 01:08:06,000
or Biden can figure out where it
is. Yeah, whatever

1161
01:08:06,030 --> 01:08:08,520
Adam Curry: it because he's
nailed. He's being blackmailed.

1162
01:08:08,550 --> 01:08:15,360
They got him. They got him. And
now Hey, hey, little boy, go to

1163
01:08:15,390 --> 01:08:19,230
New York and say something. Talk
anti Jew stuff?

1164
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:22,710
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
probably somebody that what

1165
01:08:22,710 --> 01:08:25,170
you're saying is that there's a
narrative that's been created by

1166
01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:28,140
a third party and he is now a
student? He's a

1167
01:08:28,140 --> 01:08:30,720
Adam Curry: student? Yes. He's
just well remember, he signed

1168
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,170
the EA Sports Bill said he would
never sign ever. Yeah, let me

1169
01:08:34,170 --> 01:08:36,210
play this clip. Because there's
some different stuff in here.

1170
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:38,159
Unknown: We are standing here
right now in the steps of the

1171
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:41,999
low library, in this very
building right behind us.

1172
01:08:42,389 --> 01:08:45,659
Columbia University once awarded
Winston Churchill, an honorary

1173
01:08:45,659 --> 01:08:49,859
degree. And it was Churchill who
said, it is manifestly right,

1174
01:08:49,979 --> 01:08:53,699
that Jews should have a national
home where they may be reunited.

1175
01:08:54,329 --> 01:08:58,109
We believe in that principle.
And today, I'm here to proclaim

1176
01:08:58,349 --> 01:09:01,679
to all those who gnashed their
teeth and demand to wipe

1177
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Adam Curry: the state of Oh, do
you hear what he said there? To

1178
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,060
those who gnashed their teeth
that's like a biblical thing.

1179
01:09:09,750 --> 01:09:11,970
He's that's the Vert. You want
to hear virtue virtue signal?

1180
01:09:11,970 --> 01:09:13,770
That's a virtue of gnashing of
teeth?

1181
01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:17,490
John C Dvorak: Well, he would we
would make sense from him. Yeah.

1182
01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:17,640
But

1183
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,740
Adam Curry: that's weak. That's
that's really weak.

1184
01:09:19,830 --> 01:09:22,740
Unknown: We believe in that
principle. And today, I'm here

1185
01:09:22,740 --> 01:09:26,760
to proclaim to all those who
gnashed their teeth and demand

1186
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,180
to wipe

1187
01:09:27,450 --> 01:09:30,090
John C Dvorak: out against it is
there is the reference to

1188
01:09:30,090 --> 01:09:33,090
panties in a bunch would that Is
that Biblical to

1189
01:09:33,330 --> 01:09:37,530
Unknown: it is now civil. And
today, I'm here to proclaim to

1190
01:09:37,530 --> 01:09:40,710
all those who gnashed their
teeth and demand to wipe the

1191
01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:44,340
State of Israel off the map and
attack our innocent Jewish

1192
01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:49,710
students. This simple truth.
Neither Israel nor these Jewish

1193
01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:55,050
students on this campus will
ever stand alone. Today, Hamas

1194
01:09:55,050 --> 01:09:58,200
issued an endorsement statement
of the protesters on this campus

1195
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,050
they called them the future
leaders of them America is

1196
01:10:01,050 --> 01:10:05,130
detestable. This has to be said
because the cherished traditions

1197
01:10:05,130 --> 01:10:08,490
of this university are being
overtaken right now by radical

1198
01:10:08,490 --> 01:10:11,940
and extreme ideologies. They
place a target on the backs of

1199
01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:14,580
Jewish students in the United
States and here on this campus,

1200
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:18,600
a growing number of students
have chanted in support of

1201
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,110
terrorist. They have chased down
Jewish students. They have

1202
01:10:22,110 --> 01:10:24,870
mocked them in the reviled them.
They have shouted racial ethnic

1203
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:28,260
epithets. I haven't seen that
they have screamed at those who

1204
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:38,400
bear bear the Star of David.
Enjoy your free speech. Told you

1205
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,880
as students who were the Star of
David to leave the country, and

1206
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,150
shamefully some professors and
faculty have joined the mobs.

1207
01:10:45,630 --> 01:10:47,730
Things have gotten so out of
control that the schools

1208
01:10:47,730 --> 01:10:50,700
canceled in person classes. And
now they've come up with this

1209
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,610
hybrid model, where they will
discriminate against Jewish

1210
01:10:53,610 --> 01:10:56,250
students, they are not allowed
to come to class anymore for

1211
01:10:56,250 --> 01:11:00,300
fear of their lives. And it's
detestable, as Colombia has

1212
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:04,380
allowed these lawless agitators
and radicals to take over. The

1213
01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:08,580
virus of anti semitism is spread
across other campuses, by some

1214
01:11:08,580 --> 01:11:11,370
counts as many as 200
universities have a similar form

1215
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:12,450
of protest right now.

1216
01:11:13,380 --> 01:11:17,790
Adam Curry: So this guy has
really lost the plot and I think

1217
01:11:18,180 --> 01:11:25,500
that I got this clip here. This
is from NBC. The threatening of

1218
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:28,890
Johnson which he is responding
to whatever they threatened him

1219
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:32,880
with. Whether it's like if you
don't if you don't bring this to

1220
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,400
the floor if you don't vote for
the you don't get this past man,

1221
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:40,020
then you know America's gonna
die or you're gonna die or or

1222
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:44,160
no, or we may reveal some
photos, we may show some photos.

1223
01:11:45,390 --> 01:11:48,810
You're still on that this I give
it a 10% possibility, but it's

1224
01:11:48,810 --> 01:11:49,410
possible.

1225
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,360
John C Dvorak: You can give it
any possibility you want, but it

1226
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,030
seems the easiest way to do it.
Yeah. Well listen

1227
01:11:54,030 --> 01:11:56,730
Unknown: to this report from
NBC. Tonight with Ukraine

1228
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:00,240
struggling to fend off Russia's
relentless military assault. New

1229
01:12:00,270 --> 01:12:03,810
American weapons are finally on
the way after President Biden

1230
01:12:03,810 --> 01:12:06,570
signed that nearly $100 billion
dollar foreign aid

1231
01:12:06,570 --> 01:12:08,220
John C Dvorak: package was a
good day for

1232
01:12:08,220 --> 01:12:10,230
Unknown: world peace. It's gonna
make America safer.

1233
01:12:10,230 --> 01:12:14,370
Adam Curry: And by the way,
that's the quote 100 billion

1234
01:12:14,370 --> 01:12:16,740
dollars in weapons. It's a good
day for peace.

1235
01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:21,180
Unknown: Peace world, America
safer. Yeah, it's gonna make the

1236
01:12:21,180 --> 01:12:22,920
world safer. announcement comes

1237
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,070
after a six bill on White House
effort to approve more aid the

1238
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:29,190
delay caused by conservative
Republicans who threatened to

1239
01:12:29,190 --> 01:12:32,550
oust House Speaker Mike Johnson
if he supported it. Multiple

1240
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:35,520
officials tell NBC News the
president broke the logjam by

1241
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,000
directing aides to court
Johnson, privately making clear

1242
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,310
to him the consequences of
inaction.

1243
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:43,980
Adam Curry: And he had an oval
meeting. That's what happened.

1244
01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:45,570
They brought it was the

1245
01:12:46,740 --> 01:12:49,200
John C Dvorak: what what was the
vote when they did the final

1246
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,780
vote? I think there was
something like 100 Republicans

1247
01:12:51,780 --> 01:12:53,100
that voted for that. Well,

1248
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:55,260
Adam Curry: that's part of the
whole distraction that the

1249
01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:59,520
Republicans are doing No,
listen, listen, look. The whole

1250
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,330
point is look, focus on Mike
Johnson focus on Mike Johnson.

1251
01:13:03,330 --> 01:13:06,540
Please don't look at your
representatives who voted for

1252
01:13:06,540 --> 01:13:08,550
it. That's the point

1253
01:13:08,580 --> 01:13:11,460
John C Dvorak: all Johnson was
doing was keeping it from from

1254
01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:17,940
the floor. Doing these, these
Republicans have favor and if he

1255
01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:21,900
is finally badgered into putting
it to the to a vote yes. And

1256
01:13:21,930 --> 01:13:26,190
ended Republicans sold their own
people out. He was if it wasn't

1257
01:13:26,190 --> 01:13:28,890
for all the Republicans that
voted for it, it wouldn't have

1258
01:13:28,890 --> 01:13:30,990
passed has nothing to do with
Mike Johnson.

1259
01:13:31,020 --> 01:13:34,020
Adam Curry: No, but that's why
they're all focused on him focus

1260
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:38,370
on Him, not on us. Because and
I'm gonna go there. These people

1261
01:13:38,370 --> 01:13:42,420
did indeed receive a lot of
money. And I'm talking Rubio,

1262
01:13:42,780 --> 01:13:46,320
McCall, these are not Jews, by
the way. They all got money from

1263
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,900
AIPAC and I decided, You know
what, I'm gonna go look at this

1264
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:54,450
AIPAC outfit. And AIPAC is a
501. C four, which means they're

1265
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:58,350
a lobbying organization. And I'm
like, Well, where does that

1266
01:13:58,350 --> 01:14:02,160
money come from? Of course, no
one has to disclose this. And

1267
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:07,140
then I find it they get their
money from the AI E F. Ever

1268
01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:12,000
heard of them? No, no, no,
neither at IAEIF at a

1269
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:18,960
EIFD en.org is the America
Israel Education Foundation, the

1270
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,930
charitable and literate, they
have a one page website, one

1271
01:14:21,930 --> 01:14:27,060
page, the charitable
organization affiliated with

1272
01:14:27,090 --> 01:14:32,520
AIPAC, so and their 501 C three.
So when you donate to them, this

1273
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,490
is what we call a cut out when
you donate to them. You get a

1274
01:14:35,490 --> 01:14:39,990
tax write off and they then ship
all that money over to AIPAC.

1275
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,970
And wouldn't you know it?
Lockheed Martin $1.9 million

1276
01:14:44,970 --> 01:14:51,510
dollars north of Grumman $1.253
million, General Atomics $1.229

1277
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:56,850
million. This is how it works.
The defense contractors donate

1278
01:14:56,850 --> 01:15:03,780
to a EIF a EIF said $35 million.
And this 2019 numbers because

1279
01:15:03,900 --> 01:15:06,720
very because, you know, they
don't have to report either. So

1280
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,270
I'm just getting stuff that has
been reverse engineered on the

1281
01:15:09,270 --> 01:15:13,950
internet, you know, from open
secrets type places. That's how

1282
01:15:13,950 --> 01:15:18,090
the money flows. And then you
can always say, is the juice.

1283
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:19,020
But no.

1284
01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:22,860
John C Dvorak: And unless the
Jews are running Lockheed

1285
01:15:22,860 --> 01:15:24,030
Martin, I don't think so.

1286
01:15:25,410 --> 01:15:28,800
Adam Curry: If you look at the
board of directors of AI, F,

1287
01:15:29,070 --> 01:15:33,240
it's three times as long as
APAC, APAC is that's all your

1288
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:37,050
your Jewish names? Oh, yes. Oh,
you were doing it here and boy,

1289
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:40,980
voted for Israel. But AI F.
That's where all the contractors

1290
01:15:40,980 --> 01:15:47,130
are on the board. And so I did
the unthinkable. Oh, I did the

1291
01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:53,100
unthinkable. I went and marked
up all 270 pages of this bill.

1292
01:15:55,980 --> 01:16:01,920
This is a procurement bill.
That's what this is. I'm just

1293
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:07,110
going to run through. What's
interesting is that this bill is

1294
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:10,980
entitled as an act to amend
title 38 us not United States

1295
01:16:10,980 --> 01:16:13,200
Code to make certain
improvements relating to the

1296
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,440
eligibility of veterans to
receive reimbursements for

1297
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,290
emergency treatment furnish
through the veterans community

1298
01:16:19,290 --> 01:16:23,100
care program. And for other
purposes. It's always fun to see

1299
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,650
it they take they take a bill
that's already on the floor

1300
01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:29,550
that's gone through the to the
basic stuff, and then they just

1301
01:16:29,550 --> 01:16:34,350
rip it all out and replace it.
And this thing is amazing. It

1302
01:16:34,350 --> 01:16:37,860
consists of a couple of
divisions Israel's security

1303
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:41,190
supplemental appropriations act
Ukraine security, simple

1304
01:16:41,190 --> 01:16:46,200
supplemental appropriations act,
Indo Pacific security

1305
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,740
supplemental appropriation
Appropriations Act, the century

1306
01:16:49,740 --> 01:16:54,030
peace through strength act,
couldn't be more Orwellian

1307
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,310
century peace 20 I'm sorry, 21st
century peace through strength,

1308
01:16:59,910 --> 01:17:05,010
the fend Act which is fend off
fentanyl, the rebuilding

1309
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,760
economic prosperity and
opportunity for Ukrainians x.

1310
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,870
That's that's a big slush fund.
Then we have protecting

1311
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:16,470
Americans from foreign adversary
controlled applications that you

1312
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:21,240
tick tock act. Then we have the
ship X The Fight Crime Act, the

1313
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,510
Masha act. There's a whole bunch
of stuff in here, but I just

1314
01:17:24,510 --> 01:17:27,150
want to rattle off some numbers.
I know how to read these things

1315
01:17:27,150 --> 01:17:31,770
by now. So we start with
Department of Defense operations

1316
01:17:31,770 --> 01:17:37,740
and maintenance $4.4 billion
transferred to the accounts

1317
01:17:37,770 --> 01:17:41,460
under the heading operation and
maintenance, procurement, and

1318
01:17:41,460 --> 01:17:45,990
revolving and management funds.
So that's not going to Ukraine.

1319
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,680
But the Secretary of Defense
will notify the congressional

1320
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,220
defense committees of the
details of such transfers. So

1321
01:17:53,220 --> 01:17:55,740
that a determination that all or
part of the funds transferred

1322
01:17:55,740 --> 01:17:58,410
from this appropriation are not
necessarily for the purposes

1323
01:17:58,410 --> 01:18:02,460
provided here in so he can do
whatever he wants with it. No

1324
01:18:02,460 --> 01:18:06,750
wonder they replace them. Then
we have it divided procurement

1325
01:18:06,750 --> 01:18:12,030
of ammunition for the army $801
million to respond to the

1326
01:18:12,030 --> 01:18:18,030
situation in Israel and other
uses. Defense wide $5.2 billion

1327
01:18:19,170 --> 01:18:22,890
to respond to the situation
Israel and for related expenses.

1328
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,760
4 billion given to the Secretary
of Defense to provide for the

1329
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,480
Government of Israel for
procurement, ie buying from us

1330
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:35,130
for the Iron Dome, David sling,
short range rockets. 1.2 billion

1331
01:18:35,130 --> 01:18:39,000
will be for the procurement of
the iron beam defense. So that's

1332
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,390
just being spent on us. Then
they have some defense

1333
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:45,390
production act stuff in there.
190 8 million is not that

1334
01:18:45,390 --> 01:18:50,490
interesting, but then we go to
additional 2.4 for the

1335
01:18:50,490 --> 01:18:54,000
Department of Defense for
transfer to military personnel

1336
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,760
accounts operation and
maintenance and procurement.

1337
01:18:57,630 --> 01:19:01,080
Defense working capital funds,
it's not going anywhere. It's

1338
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,670
not going to Ukraine, or Israel
or anywhere. Then we have titled

1339
01:19:05,670 --> 01:19:09,570
to Department of Homeland
Security. We throw them $10

1340
01:19:09,570 --> 01:19:14,040
million dollars just for
operations, FEMA, FEMA, do they

1341
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:21,600
operate in the Ukraine FEMA,
FEMA 390,000,200 and 30 million

1342
01:19:21,630 --> 01:19:26,100
for nonprofit security grant
program to eligible nonprofit

1343
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:29,490
organizations to prevent,
prepare for protect against and

1344
01:19:29,490 --> 01:19:36,570
respond to acts of terrorism to
nonprofits. This is dynamite.

1345
01:19:37,380 --> 01:19:38,310
Then we and

1346
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:40,230
John C Dvorak: then to the if
you're on the other end of the

1347
01:19:40,230 --> 01:19:41,220
tit thrilled Of

1348
01:19:41,220 --> 01:19:43,890
Adam Curry: course then the
Department of State 100 50

1349
01:19:43,890 --> 01:19:48,570
million just to fly around 100
million for security worldwide

1350
01:19:48,570 --> 01:19:51,960
security. They will get 4
million to the odd the Office of

1351
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,950
the Inspector General to oversee
everything, then to the

1352
01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:59,280
diplomatic and consular
services. 50 million for general

1353
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:03,570
stuff case needed fly on jets
jets, I guess you mostly jets,

1354
01:20:03,570 --> 01:20:10,350
mostly jets, bilateral economic
assistance $5.6 billion to

1355
01:20:10,350 --> 01:20:14,610
address humanitarian needs.
Emergency Food and Shelter of

1356
01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:19,500
vulnerable populations and
communities doesn't specify just

1357
01:20:19,530 --> 01:20:23,070
5.6 billion. And then my
favorite Department of State

1358
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:29,670
Migration and Refugee Assistance
$3.495 billion for humanitarian

1359
01:20:29,670 --> 01:20:32,610
needs of vulnerable populations
to come in through the southern

1360
01:20:32,610 --> 01:20:35,310
border. Yeah, I mean, this is
literally

1361
01:20:36,030 --> 01:20:40,110
John C Dvorak: a $10,000 credit
card. Yes. Here you have come on

1362
01:20:40,110 --> 01:20:43,560
welcome mirror. It's not you.
You're not a $10,000 credit

1363
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,430
card. Yeah. And there are guys
that we know for a fact because

1364
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:51,840
they've said so have come in,
grabbed a credit card escaped

1365
01:20:51,870 --> 01:20:56,430
out of the country, and come
back in again. Oh, to get a

1366
01:20:56,430 --> 01:20:59,430
second credit card Eva, Phoebe
knows. Yes. Okay,

1367
01:20:59,430 --> 01:21:04,860
Adam Curry: baby. Okay. Then, in
case someone has some issues,

1368
01:21:05,010 --> 01:21:07,110
we're gonna give away three and
a half billion dollars for

1369
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:10,950
foreign military financing. You
know, hey, you need financing.

1370
01:21:11,250 --> 01:21:15,510
We can give you a lease on this
stuff. We have financing

1371
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:18,840
available. I mean, literally
with 5 million Hey, Phoebe

1372
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:24,000
coming with 5 million for the
sales department. Expenses for

1373
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,090
general costs of address of
administering military

1374
01:21:27,090 --> 01:21:31,110
assistance and sales. They've
even got the salespersons in

1375
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:37,440
there. Tila Yeah, Phoebe Come
here. Let me skip ahead here.

1376
01:21:37,470 --> 01:21:40,920
There's a couple other things
because then we get into my

1377
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,490
fifth Pheebs Come here, baby.
Come here. US youth Pheebs

1378
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:50,040
fevers, US AI D $3 million for
monitoring of assistance made

1379
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:53,010
available for Gaza. So we give
we gave give both sides some

1380
01:21:53,010 --> 01:21:55,920
money. Go look, go make sure
that the missiles hit right.

1381
01:21:55,950 --> 01:22:02,370
Here's $3 million. Go monitor.
Then we have Okay, now we go to

1382
01:22:02,370 --> 01:22:06,660
Ukraine. This is great. For
Military Department of Defense

1383
01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:09,750
for military personnel. 207
million, that's our people were

1384
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:15,690
paying them military for the
Marine Corps. $3.358 million for

1385
01:22:15,690 --> 01:22:21,210
our Marines. 23 million for the
Air Force, 4 million for Space

1386
01:22:21,210 --> 01:22:27,060
Force, Phoebe Space Force, Space
Force. operation and maintenance

1387
01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:31,410
for the army $4.8 billion to
respond to the situation in

1388
01:22:31,410 --> 01:22:36,060
Ukraine and for related
expenses, provided that such

1389
01:22:36,090 --> 01:22:39,630
amount is designated by Congress
as for being for an emergency

1390
01:22:39,630 --> 01:22:42,360
requirement pursuant to this
section, so they're just gonna

1391
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:46,170
hold on to it. We give that
slush money. It's called Oh,

1392
01:22:46,170 --> 01:22:49,440
it's all slush, money, operation
and maintenance for the Navy.

1393
01:22:49,470 --> 01:22:54,810
are we sending the Navy to
Ukraine 976 million, the Marine

1394
01:22:54,810 --> 01:23:00,000
Corps 69 million. And they just
this is it just keeps on going.

1395
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,530
But here's the I love this one.
General operation and

1396
01:23:04,530 --> 01:23:10,590
maintenance defense wides $27.9
billion to spend to respond to

1397
01:23:10,590 --> 01:23:15,420
the situation Ukraine and for
related expenses. So this is a

1398
01:23:15,420 --> 01:23:19,500
huge procurement bill, which
means buying stuff and I go on

1399
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:25,110
and on but I want to get to the
Navy because the Navy has

1400
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:30,690
weapons procurement 706 million
to respond to the situation in

1401
01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:33,720
Ukraine because you know, the
Navy's got to be there. Other

1402
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,950
procurement 26 million just in
case you need it. Let's get to

1403
01:23:37,950 --> 01:23:45,870
the submarines await for the Air
Force $3.2 billion research and

1404
01:23:45,870 --> 01:23:49,410
development we need some
research and development 80

1405
01:23:49,410 --> 01:23:54,270
million for who was that for for
to remain available to respond

1406
01:23:54,270 --> 01:23:59,430
to the situation in Ukraine.
That's for the army. The Navy

1407
01:23:59,430 --> 01:24:04,020
gets 13 million for research and
development and for testing. Air

1408
01:24:04,020 --> 01:24:09,360
Force 406 million. I mean, this
is bull crap. That's absolute

1409
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,970
bull crap. But then they added
the cool things down at the

1410
01:24:11,970 --> 01:24:17,130
bottom here. They got some
nuclear stuff in there. Oh, here

1411
01:24:17,130 --> 01:24:21,210
it is. This I love this title to
Department of Energy programs

1412
01:24:21,390 --> 01:24:25,500
for an additional amount for
science $98 million. It

1413
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:30,300
literally says science in the
bill in quotes for an additional

1414
01:24:30,300 --> 01:24:34,110
amount for science. What does
that even mean? That's code.

1415
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:38,040
John C Dvorak: If it's in
quotes, it's code but which code

1416
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:38,160
for

1417
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,650
Adam Curry: something we don't
know. And then we go back to

1418
01:24:40,650 --> 01:24:42,420
Department of Health and Human
Services

1419
01:24:42,450 --> 01:24:44,550
John C Dvorak: it could be
hookers MMA.

1420
01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:48,180
Adam Curry: I love it loses
science and quote could be your

1421
01:24:48,180 --> 01:24:51,210
right could be hookers and blow
the Department of Health and

1422
01:24:51,210 --> 01:24:55,950
Human Services 481 million for
refugee and entrant assistance

1423
01:24:55,950 --> 01:25:00,630
activities. What? A half a
billion dollars. dollars to help

1424
01:25:00,630 --> 01:25:01,860
more people come in.

1425
01:25:02,250 --> 01:25:04,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the
ones they're flying in.

1426
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:11,490
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Precisely.
All right, we go down to that,

1427
01:25:11,490 --> 01:25:15,120
well, then the President gets
30 $39 million to throw around

1428
01:25:15,660 --> 01:25:22,080
for general expenses. The here's
the economic support fund, this

1429
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:27,150
is the real money that is going
to quote unquote, Ukraine $7.89

1430
01:25:27,150 --> 01:25:33,600
billion. But that is going into
the Ukraine fund. You see,

1431
01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:36,600
that's where everybody is going
to be sucking off of that money,

1432
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,980
the Freedom Support Act and seed
the support for East European

1433
01:25:40,980 --> 01:25:44,910
Democracy Act, they put that
money in there. And then you go

1434
01:25:44,910 --> 01:25:47,670
there with your little
nonprofit. And that's where you

1435
01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:51,090
get. That's, that's where you
get some money from, and I'm

1436
01:25:51,090 --> 01:25:54,870
sure Zelinsky and all those guys
get from that money, then

1437
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:58,860
they've got more loan guarantees
that we put in there. This, this

1438
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:04,440
was fun. They changed some words
around and so now money instead

1439
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:06,990
of going to the North Atlantic
Treaty Organization,

1440
01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:11,250
organization, NATO and its
allies, it now can go to North

1441
01:26:11,250 --> 01:26:16,110
Atlantic Treaty Organization,
allies, major non NATO allies,

1442
01:26:16,380 --> 01:26:21,900
and the Indo Pacific region $8
billion was 4 billion they

1443
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:24,750
doubled it to 8 billion, and now
they can give it to anybody they

1444
01:26:24,750 --> 01:26:30,600
want even a non NATO ally.
That's probably Taiwan, I'm

1445
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:36,600
guessing. Then on page 55, there
was no I'm almost done here,

1446
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:43,650
page 55. There was something
interesting. On page 55, where

1447
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:50,220
this is about the what do you
call those attack comes? This is

1448
01:26:50,220 --> 01:26:56,940
a big thing in the news. The
that's the 300 mile army

1449
01:26:56,940 --> 01:27:04,170
tactical missile systems. So
yeah, okay, so this bill, as

1450
01:27:04,170 --> 01:27:07,080
soon as practicable after the
date of enactment of this

1451
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,320
division, the president shall
transfer long range army

1452
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,440
tactical missile systems to the
Government of Ukraine, that's

1453
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,710
the attacker comes to assist the
Government of Ukraine in

1454
01:27:16,710 --> 01:27:20,010
defending itself and achieving
victory against the Russian

1455
01:27:20,010 --> 01:27:24,300
Federation. Notification. If the
President determines that

1456
01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:27,330
executive, the transfer of long
range army tactical missile

1457
01:27:27,330 --> 01:27:30,090
systems to the Government of
Ukraine pursuant to subsection A

1458
01:27:30,270 --> 01:27:32,760
will be detrimental to the
national security interest of

1459
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,530
the United States, the President
may withhold such transfer. So

1460
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:41,490
this is just they're just going
to hold this intel, because it's

1461
01:27:41,490 --> 01:27:44,460
always going to be it's always
gonna be dangerous. We'll see if

1462
01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:49,110
they actually send them over.
And so then they probably won't.

1463
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,970
I don't think so either. Okay,
so then we go to the submarines

1464
01:27:53,970 --> 01:27:59,610
$1.9 billion to respond to the
situation in Taiwan, for

1465
01:27:59,610 --> 01:28:04,530
operation and maintenance
procurement of submarines. We

1466
01:28:04,530 --> 01:28:11,160
add to that $2.1 billion for
submarine bases. additional

1467
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,240
money, 1.9 billion for the
Columbia class submarine and 200

1468
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,320
million a 200 million for the
Virginia class submarine. So

1469
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,950
that's your pivot to the Indo
Pacific. And I'll skip

1470
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:25,380
everything else. It's all marked
up in the show notes. But at the

1471
01:28:25,380 --> 01:28:34,380
very bottom, we have my
favorite, which is the repo Act,

1472
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:43,200
the repo act. This is the
rebuilding economic prosperity

1473
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:48,270
and opportunity for Ukraine's
act. And this is where we get to

1474
01:28:48,270 --> 01:28:53,040
take the Russian money. And so
it's clearly spelled out there's

1475
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:58,050
$300 billion of Russian money in
the system. 190 billion is in

1476
01:28:58,050 --> 01:29:04,350
Belgium through Euro clear, we
have about I think 10 billion or

1477
01:29:04,350 --> 01:29:09,660
15 billion that is within within
our purview. And this authorizes

1478
01:29:09,660 --> 01:29:13,080
the g7 countries, we're good to
go. We're taking the money.

1479
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:15,030
We're stealing the Russian
money.

1480
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,810
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the
end of our economic system. I

1481
01:29:18,810 --> 01:29:18,990
would

1482
01:29:18,990 --> 01:29:23,310
Adam Curry: agree. It is the
most insane thing I've ever

1483
01:29:23,310 --> 01:29:31,020
seen. And of course, you know,
Putin, Putin is like we also

1484
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:34,320
have prepared an answer. Speaker
of Russian upper house of

1485
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,800
parliament says, we have a draft
law which we are ready to

1486
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,160
consider immediately on
retaliatory measures and the

1487
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,530
Europeans will lose more than we
do.

1488
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:46,380
John C Dvorak: Whatever I bet
you that's true. Yeah, but

1489
01:29:46,380 --> 01:29:47,400
Adam Curry: what do you think
they'll do?

1490
01:29:48,210 --> 01:29:50,820
John C Dvorak: Well, they can
confiscate all the European and

1491
01:29:50,820 --> 01:29:53,940
American investments in Russia
and there's definitely more than

1492
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,750
yeah, that's that minuscule
amount. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

1493
01:29:58,170 --> 01:30:01,860
That also cut out the oil guys.
and who really we are there?

1494
01:30:02,670 --> 01:30:06,120
It's could be it's a bad idea.
Yeah, this is not what you you

1495
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,430
can be you have your wars,
you're gonna have your kinetic

1496
01:30:08,430 --> 01:30:11,700
wars and you can shoot at each
other but you start Seto and

1497
01:30:11,700 --> 01:30:15,210
money's Arab tissue. Yes,
surreptitiously stealing money

1498
01:30:15,210 --> 01:30:18,180
where it's agreed upon that you
don't do that, because it has,

1499
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,570
because those systems are not
based on you know, just

1500
01:30:21,570 --> 01:30:24,600
bullcrap. They're, they're
solid, they're, they work for a

1501
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,710
reason, and you mess with them.
This is no good. This is the end

1502
01:30:29,220 --> 01:30:32,820
of American hegemony, this is
going to screw up everything if

1503
01:30:32,820 --> 01:30:38,580
we go ahead with this stupid
idea of stealing money. This in

1504
01:30:38,580 --> 01:30:41,100
a system that's secure. Here's

1505
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:44,100
Adam Curry: two clips from CBS
face, the nation about these

1506
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:48,420
procurement bills. And they're
even lying here. But is

1507
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,350
Unknown: this Ukraine aid that
finally has moved at President

1508
01:30:52,350 --> 01:30:55,770
Solinsky was on another network
this morning, and he said the US

1509
01:30:55,770 --> 01:30:59,520
will send a signal with this,
that this will not be a second

1510
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:04,440
Afghanistan, the US will stay
with Ukraine. As

1511
01:31:04,440 --> 01:31:07,920
you know, I was a supporter of
the defense supplemental. This

1512
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,250
is Senator Mark Warner. And I
think it's not just going to be

1513
01:31:11,250 --> 01:31:13,740
important for Ukraine, as you
and I've talked about before,

1514
01:31:13,950 --> 01:31:16,500
it's going to be really
important for the industrial

1515
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:20,940
base of America, which has
atrophied dramatically 60% of

1516
01:31:20,940 --> 01:31:24,510
this bill goes into building
weapons or the from submarines,

1517
01:31:24,510 --> 01:31:25,200
two and

1518
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,800
155 districts to which is
surprising to get through that

1519
01:31:28,950 --> 01:31:29,190
all

1520
01:31:29,190 --> 01:31:30,960
over the place. So I think

1521
01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:33,330
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, as Dan
Sullivan, Senator Dan Sullivan,

1522
01:31:33,330 --> 01:31:35,010
he just submarines is all great

1523
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,220
Unknown: all over the place. So
I think it's important. But

1524
01:31:38,220 --> 01:31:42,300
again, we're kind of given Joe
Biden a bit of a pass on, not

1525
01:31:42,300 --> 01:31:46,200
just as I mentioned, how we got
here, but the execution of the

1526
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:51,330
Ukraine. Effort is, you know,
literally every major weapons

1527
01:31:51,330 --> 01:31:55,680
system that the Ukrainians have
said they need from high Mars

1528
01:31:55,680 --> 01:32:01,470
patriots, stingers, tanks, F 16.
Now attack comes every single

1529
01:32:01,470 --> 01:32:05,730
weapon system, this
administration, delays, delays

1530
01:32:05,730 --> 01:32:09,720
because they're scared of, you
know, making Vladimir Putin mad.

1531
01:32:09,810 --> 01:32:10,380
Yeah,

1532
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:12,210
Adam Curry: they can make them
real math when they steal the

1533
01:32:12,210 --> 01:32:14,850
money. But that's why I think
they put it in here that the

1534
01:32:14,850 --> 01:32:18,000
President can still delay the
attack comes which is, oh, it's

1535
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,430
all about the attack comes from
Senator

1536
01:32:20,430 --> 01:32:24,480
Unknown: 61 billion in aid to
Ukraine, about 60% of that stays

1537
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,960
as an investment into the US
industrial base. As I understand

1538
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:32,040
it, the US industrial base,
President Solinsky said this

1539
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,790
morning on another network, it's
important that they get crucial

1540
01:32:35,820 --> 01:32:39,240
long range artillery, like
attack guns, is that what this

1541
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:43,020
money will pay for? And if so,
when will they actually get

1542
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:43,320
them?

1543
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:48,180
These materials will be in
transit by the end of the week.

1544
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:53,550
And on that schedule, what it
will do is it's clearly been the

1545
01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:57,660
case that the Ukrainians morale
has been great, but it's been

1546
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,740
undermined the last couple of
months or damaged literally,

1547
01:33:02,010 --> 01:33:05,340
Adam Curry: I was I was enrolled
at dead but it's great given out

1548
01:33:05,340 --> 01:33:09,540
Unknown: rationed bullets, eight
to 10 bullets a day and on

1549
01:33:09,570 --> 01:33:13,500
artillery shells, Russians tend
to one you can't underestimate

1550
01:33:13,500 --> 01:33:17,760
that Ukrainians grit
determination but if they don't

1551
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,940
have the materials yeah they
can't carry this fight to

1552
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,250
get those long range artillery

1553
01:33:24,150 --> 01:33:24,690
yes

1554
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,280
not just ammunition The

1555
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:30,060
attack comes I believe the
administration was prepared well

1556
01:33:30,060 --> 01:33:34,260
months to to provide attack
rooms. It is written into this

1557
01:33:34,260 --> 01:33:35,940
legislation. So

1558
01:33:35,970 --> 01:33:38,520
Adam Curry: now I'll be the
first to say that this is

1559
01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:43,200
clearly supporting our GDP. But
we're not sending any of this to

1560
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,320
Ukraine. Now I mean, we have the
stuff we just didn't want to

1561
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,710
give it to him we I mean what
now we can send everything all

1562
01:33:49,710 --> 01:33:52,740
of us Oh, now we got bullets.
But because we made bullets

1563
01:33:52,740 --> 01:33:57,630
overnight now know the military,
the defense industrial base,

1564
01:33:57,930 --> 01:34:01,410
which keeps our What else do we
make here? We make war stuff.

1565
01:34:02,010 --> 01:34:06,540
And a cyber truck 4000
cybertruck jets and jets. Well

1566
01:34:06,540 --> 01:34:09,120
it's war stuff submarines. These
are big things you ever see that

1567
01:34:09,150 --> 01:34:12,180
submarines dot build
submarines.com on the sports

1568
01:34:12,210 --> 01:34:15,000
fields. This is gonna be big
business. You want to get a

1569
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,640
business get into that business.
And what are the rest of the

1570
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,690
American people get? We get
Ukraine flags waving waving you

1571
01:34:21,690 --> 01:34:26,310
idiots. Here's a Christian
Welker, your buddy speaking with

1572
01:34:26,310 --> 01:34:31,320
the Lenski. Now is this it
brother Brother, Volodymyr? Is

1573
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,170
this do you need more? Can you
When will this be it

1574
01:34:34,170 --> 01:34:37,980
Unknown: President Solinsky Can
you give Americans a sense of

1575
01:34:37,980 --> 01:34:43,050
the timeline? Will you still
need as much aid this time next

1576
01:34:43,050 --> 01:34:43,530
year?

1577
01:34:43,650 --> 01:34:46,950
Or do you think you can turn the
corner on Russia? What's the

1578
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:47,580
timeline

1579
01:34:50,010 --> 01:34:53,970
depends on like how soon they
get this age. There are so many

1580
01:34:53,970 --> 01:34:58,560
variables, so many factors. And
sometimes when we protect the

1581
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:03,750
important The bottom line is you
retreat because you don't have

1582
01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:07,410
enough to force us into
equipment. And then we taking

1583
01:35:07,710 --> 01:35:11,820
the client would take two or
three times more. Oh, okay. I'm

1584
01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:15,360
not saying that this is how it's
gonna end up. But I would like

1585
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,890
us to be open and very, very
specific. From the moment we get

1586
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:25,500
our hands on these weapons
systems. Well, from that moment,

1587
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:29,460
we can talk about the timeline,

1588
01:35:29,550 --> 01:35:32,850
Adam Curry: we need three times
more. That's what he's saying.

1589
01:35:34,410 --> 01:35:37,080
Two to three today, I just want
to be open with you guys. Give

1590
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,130
me some credit. I need two or
three more. There was an

1591
01:35:41,130 --> 01:35:47,040
interesting little tidbit that
came up on Face The Nation, as

1592
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,970
they were talking about, you
know, this being a new Cold War.

1593
01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:54,090
It's, you know, it's, we're,
well, now we have a Cold War

1594
01:35:54,090 --> 01:35:58,920
with Russia and with China.
These are short clips. Let's

1595
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,410
play these two because something
interesting came up first here

1596
01:36:01,410 --> 01:36:05,040
is Who's David E. Sanger? Who is
this Jumoke.

1597
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,950
John C Dvorak: Singer. That's
the guy was from New York, New

1598
01:36:07,950 --> 01:36:12,720
York Times. New York Times
today. He's a reporter. Okay.

1599
01:36:12,750 --> 01:36:15,900
Unknown: The New Cold Wars are
quite different market. We've

1600
01:36:15,900 --> 01:36:19,650
got Russia and China coming
together in a periodic

1601
01:36:19,950 --> 01:36:23,940
partnership. I wouldn't say it's
a full Alliance. We have other

1602
01:36:23,940 --> 01:36:27,930
players like Iran and North
Korea, as you were discussing

1603
01:36:27,930 --> 01:36:32,370
with earlier guests, supplying
them becoming sort of what the

1604
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:36,930
Iranians call an Axis of
Resistance to the US. It is a

1605
01:36:36,930 --> 01:36:41,790
far more volatile, I think, far
more dangerous period than we

1606
01:36:41,790 --> 01:36:46,200
had, even then. And yet, as you
point out, our ability to

1607
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,500
discuss it as a nation has
somewhat degraded you watch

1608
01:36:49,500 --> 01:36:53,430
those Kennedy Nixon debates and
put aside who was sweating and

1609
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:56,340
who looked young and vigorous
and all that it was an

1610
01:36:56,340 --> 01:37:00,540
incredibly sophisticated
argument largely about nuclear

1611
01:37:00,540 --> 01:37:04,620
deterrence. I'm afraid that
we're not having that incredibly

1612
01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:08,430
sophisticated argument today,
you know, 60 years more than 60

1613
01:37:08,430 --> 01:37:12,960
years later, if you believe that
there is something of a new Iron

1614
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,500
Curtain coming down a place
where you're going to divide the

1615
01:37:16,500 --> 01:37:20,970
US, the NATO nations against
China, Russia, Iran, others,

1616
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:25,590
it's somewhere in that border
land between Ukraine and Russia.

1617
01:37:25,620 --> 01:37:28,440
Adam Curry: Yeah, demilitarized
zone, there you go. Good job,

1618
01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:33,210
everybody. You move it up into
Ukraine. Fantastic. But here's,

1619
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:34,710
here's the kicker, the

1620
01:37:34,740 --> 01:37:39,240
Unknown: book opens with the
days running up to the war in

1621
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,080
Ukraine. And while there was
certainly lots of indicators

1622
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,740
coming from American satellites,
and signals, intelligence, and

1623
01:37:46,740 --> 01:37:52,140
so forth, in the end, one of the
key indicators of the Russians

1624
01:37:52,140 --> 01:37:57,030
were getting ready to roll came
from Microsoft, whose engineers

1625
01:37:57,030 --> 01:38:01,170
were noticing that malware that
had been placed by the Russians

1626
01:38:01,170 --> 01:38:05,280
and Ukrainian government
agencies were being activated

1627
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,770
and sent a notice through their
various channels, which

1628
01:38:07,770 --> 01:38:10,950
ultimately went to the White
House. At the end of the day,

1629
01:38:11,340 --> 01:38:16,140
what kept Ukraine running was
some combination of Microsoft

1630
01:38:16,140 --> 01:38:21,450
and Amazon, moving all of their
data to the cloud. And then Elon

1631
01:38:21,450 --> 01:38:23,970
Musk coming in and providing
Starlink so they could

1632
01:38:23,970 --> 01:38:27,540
communicate to that cloud
credible. Something we never saw

1633
01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:28,650
in the old Cold War's

1634
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:34,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, I read that as
Microsoft, Amazon and Starlink

1635
01:38:34,350 --> 01:38:38,430
are all part of the intelligence
services and spying on everybody

1636
01:38:38,430 --> 01:38:44,130
and everything. Didn't the
engineers notice some spyware

1637
01:38:44,130 --> 01:38:46,950
was activated, please? Yeah,

1638
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:49,890
John C Dvorak: I agree. I'm not
at a total agreement. But I

1639
01:38:49,890 --> 01:38:53,880
agree with this nonsense that
all of a sudden, I mean, first

1640
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:55,830
one thing if the spyware is
there,

1641
01:38:56,550 --> 01:39:00,360
Adam Curry: get rid of it. Yeah.
Run that antivirus. Watch it

1642
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,970
John C Dvorak: and wait for it
to be activate. Oh, look, it's

1643
01:39:02,970 --> 01:39:04,350
just been activated by

1644
01:39:04,350 --> 01:39:07,140
Adam Curry: Hunter five people
Come on run it. That'll

1645
01:39:07,140 --> 01:39:09,360
John C Dvorak: probably do it.
Probably all it takes.

1646
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:15,180
Adam Curry: But wow, this this
is such a this whole thing. And

1647
01:39:15,180 --> 01:39:19,080
meanwhile, you know, we're being
spied on by our own intelligence

1648
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:23,400
services. We got net neutrality
to block any kind of private

1649
01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:29,130
communications we want to have.
It's obviously what are we all

1650
01:39:29,130 --> 01:39:33,420
doing? Scrolling on tick tock.
Oh, I'm sorry. Tick tock tick

1651
01:39:33,420 --> 01:39:35,820
tock, click clock tock tick.
Tock tock Scott

1652
01:39:35,820 --> 01:39:38,280
Unknown: McFarlane has got the
latest on that possible ban on

1653
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:39,450
tick tock Scott, what

1654
01:39:39,450 --> 01:39:44,430
do we know? Tony tick tock is
now on the clock here to be sued

1655
01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:48,240
by their China based owner or
face the prospect of abandoned

1656
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:52,680
the United States within that
year shutting down access to 170

1657
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,820
million American users and
millions of small businesses in

1658
01:39:56,820 --> 01:39:59,880
a Congress that seemingly can't
agree on anything this past

1659
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:03,870
week. overwhelming bipartisan
support amid concerns China

1660
01:40:03,870 --> 01:40:07,260
could use Tiktok to exploit and
access private Americans

1661
01:40:07,260 --> 01:40:11,400
information. One lawmaker called
it a spy balloon in your phone

1662
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:15,180
and others say that's a possible
tool for propaganda. A big issue

1663
01:40:15,180 --> 01:40:18,870
as we enter an election season.
Tick tock is indicated they will

1664
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:22,020
challenge this in the courts
file a lawsuit, they argued this

1665
01:40:22,020 --> 01:40:24,510
is an infringement of First
Amendment rights. But Tony

1666
01:40:24,510 --> 01:40:28,380
President Biden is expected to
sign this bill into law today.

1667
01:40:30,540 --> 01:40:33,420
Adam Curry: This great, of
course, is not going to go away.

1668
01:40:33,420 --> 01:40:40,260
It'll just be tick tock with USA
inside. Steve Minuchin. Speaking

1669
01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:41,100
of Tic Toc,

1670
01:40:41,550 --> 01:40:42,660
John C Dvorak: and I gotta let
him get it.

1671
01:40:42,690 --> 01:40:44,910
Adam Curry: Oh, someone's got
it. You know, it's gonna be it'd

1672
01:40:44,910 --> 01:40:46,770
be Google. Yeah,

1673
01:40:46,770 --> 01:40:48,630
John C Dvorak: it'd be something
like that. Because I've already

1674
01:40:48,630 --> 01:40:52,230
read that Google and Microsoft
is best candidates. Although

1675
01:40:52,260 --> 01:40:56,100
Adam Curry: meta, their stock
price took a dump yesterday,

1676
01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:58,560
even though they had reasonable
earnings.

1677
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,650
John C Dvorak: I don't know
it'll be back. That's just a I

1678
01:41:01,650 --> 01:41:03,270
don't even know why they glitch
occurred. But

1679
01:41:03,630 --> 01:41:06,450
Adam Curry: a glitch. Glitch.

1680
01:41:06,810 --> 01:41:07,470
John C Dvorak: It's a glitch.

1681
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:10,590
Adam Curry: Zuckerberg announced
the oh, we're gonna invest in

1682
01:41:10,590 --> 01:41:13,290
AI. Everyone went Oh, no, jump

1683
01:41:13,290 --> 01:41:15,600
John C Dvorak: that thing that
may actually be the moment where

1684
01:41:16,170 --> 01:41:20,400
the pivot the pivot the pivot is
to people stop paying attention

1685
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,580
to AI. You don't have to say AI
anymore? I do. I do have this

1686
01:41:23,670 --> 01:41:26,340
clip blinking in China to talk
about.

1687
01:41:26,910 --> 01:41:30,030
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm sure that's
what he's talking about. Here's

1688
01:41:30,030 --> 01:41:30,150
your

1689
01:41:30,150 --> 01:41:32,640
Unknown: clip. Because when our
allies are stronger, I want to

1690
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,190
make this current again and
again. When our allies are

1691
01:41:35,190 --> 01:41:37,200
stronger, we are stronger. The

1692
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,660
package includes a separate
measure that would force tick

1693
01:41:39,660 --> 01:41:43,260
tock to divest from its Chinese
parent company bytedance, or be

1694
01:41:43,260 --> 01:41:47,610
banned on US App Stores. Tiktok
has about a year to do so. And

1695
01:41:47,610 --> 01:41:51,630
that's because of data privacy
concerns, as the Chinese regime

1696
01:41:51,630 --> 01:41:55,950
can access tic TOCs user data
for any user that uses tic tock

1697
01:41:55,950 --> 01:41:59,430
in the world. At the same time.
Antony Blinken, the Secretary of

1698
01:41:59,430 --> 01:42:02,160
State is in China, and among
many of the topics he'll be

1699
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,460
discussing with officials there
are human rights, the State

1700
01:42:05,460 --> 01:42:09,240
Department released a human
rights report documenting the

1701
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:12,420
atrocities and crimes against
humanity still being committed

1702
01:42:12,420 --> 01:42:15,180
by the Chinese regime today in
China, including those against

1703
01:42:15,180 --> 01:42:18,480
wiegers and following Gong,
Falun Gong is a spiritual

1704
01:42:18,480 --> 01:42:21,780
practice based on the principles
of truthfulness, compassion, and

1705
01:42:21,780 --> 01:42:24,870
forbearance. Here's madonn
Patel, the deputy principals

1706
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:27,510
spokesperson at the State
Department on the Secretary's

1707
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:30,690
visit to China. He said he would
address human rights. But on

1708
01:42:30,690 --> 01:42:34,050
this report that came out on
Monday Well, he specifically

1709
01:42:34,050 --> 01:42:36,510
addressed the persecution of
religious groups like the

1710
01:42:36,510 --> 01:42:40,020
Uyghurs and Falun Gong, and what
have tox been like on this in

1711
01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:41,430
the past. So

1712
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,760
what I can say is that in every
engagement that we have had with

1713
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,850
the People's Republic of China,
since the onset of this

1714
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:51,660
administration, human rights
have always been on the agenda,

1715
01:42:51,660 --> 01:42:55,710
and they will continue to be so
and I have no doubt that human

1716
01:42:55,710 --> 01:42:58,950
rights will be discussed. This
week, while the Secretary is

1717
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:59,310
there.

1718
01:43:00,570 --> 01:43:03,390
John C Dvorak: There was the
agenda is put some on the

1719
01:43:03,390 --> 01:43:05,340
agenda. There's some

1720
01:43:05,370 --> 01:43:08,520
Adam Curry: additional stuff,
that it wasn't just the so

1721
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:14,370
called tick tock bill, which
actually is 270 days for tick

1722
01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:18,090
tock to bite dance to divest of
Tik Tok to an American company,

1723
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:21,840
by IE, we're gonna steal it from
you, the president can extend

1724
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:28,110
that three months after the
enactment of this act, tick tock

1725
01:43:28,110 --> 01:43:32,430
has to start making available
all data all video all posts all

1726
01:43:32,430 --> 01:43:35,940
pictures in machine readable
format, so that people can

1727
01:43:35,970 --> 01:43:41,010
export that and download it to
import into Google and YouTube,

1728
01:43:41,010 --> 01:43:47,190
I presume. But it also goes for
any technology company the

1729
01:43:47,190 --> 01:43:52,590
president deems to be. I'm
paraphrasing here, operated by a

1730
01:43:52,590 --> 01:43:56,040
foreign entity, an adverse
foreign entity, if it has more

1731
01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:01,770
than a million users. Except of
course, if you're a price

1732
01:44:01,770 --> 01:44:06,750
comparison app. Now if you're on
Amazon or ordering app, or if

1733
01:44:06,750 --> 01:44:09,390
you're Airbnb, that doesn't
count, but then they have this

1734
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:14,220
no technology for terror act,
which is not discussed. I don't

1735
01:44:14,220 --> 01:44:18,510
know if it's anything but a
foreign produced item shall be

1736
01:44:18,510 --> 01:44:23,370
subject to the Export
Administration Regulations. If

1737
01:44:23,370 --> 01:44:28,830
the product is I guess, you
can't import anything that is,

1738
01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:33,810
in general a license shall be
required to export re export or

1739
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:38,460
in country transfer a foreign
produced item from abroad that

1740
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:40,890
meets the product scope
requirements described in

1741
01:44:40,890 --> 01:44:47,310
subsection B which is bits and
bobs. As I'm not I don't

1742
01:44:47,310 --> 01:44:53,520
understand that one yet. But
there's something coming you

1743
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,290
know, metal got kicked out of
China.

1744
01:44:58,500 --> 01:45:00,780
John C Dvorak: So that would
have killed for a stock Drop.

1745
01:45:01,020 --> 01:45:01,440
Yeah,

1746
01:45:01,470 --> 01:45:04,440
Adam Curry: I wonder that
happened recently I think

1747
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:09,390
John C Dvorak: well, something's
up. Nobody would. Yeah, this

1748
01:45:09,390 --> 01:45:12,000
whole the idealism of the
internet is over

1749
01:45:12,270 --> 01:45:17,940
Adam Curry: here. Here's the EU
Not to be outdone, hey, hey, we

1750
01:45:17,940 --> 01:45:21,870
got to get on that Tiktok
bandwagon, man. I know, let's

1751
01:45:21,870 --> 01:45:24,390
see if we can steal some money
of our own, grabbing

1752
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:27,240
Unknown: your phone and
scrolling through videos for

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01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,960
hours on end. It's a behavior
that's become part of our daily

1754
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,920
lives, and one which Tik Tok is
seeking to encourage further

1755
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:39,240
through its new feature Tik Tok
light. The applications reward

1756
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,600
program allows users to earn
points for watching and

1757
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,960
interacting with content, which
they can then trade for gift

1758
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:50,820
cards on partner websites, and
new way to gamify and monetize

1759
01:45:50,820 --> 01:45:54,090
attention, which Brussels say
could be as addictive as

1760
01:45:54,090 --> 01:45:57,540
cigarettes. In the European
Commission on Monday launched a

1761
01:45:57,540 --> 01:46:01,740
probe into tic toc lights impact
on mental health, especially for

1762
01:46:01,740 --> 01:46:04,980
children, in what it says could
be a breach of the Digital

1763
01:46:04,980 --> 01:46:09,120
Service Act. It's given Chinese
group by dance until Wednesday

1764
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:13,440
to argue its case or face being
suspended from operating in

1765
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:16,740
Europe. So unless Tiktok
provides compelling proof of its

1766
01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:20,850
safety, which he has failed to
do until now, we stand ready to

1767
01:46:20,850 --> 01:46:24,240
trigger digital service acts
interim measures, including the

1768
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,190
suspension of the Tiktok light
reward

1769
01:46:26,190 --> 01:46:29,730
program, tick tock says it's
already taken measures to limit

1770
01:46:29,730 --> 01:46:34,080
addiction, including placing a
cap on daily rewards and banning

1771
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:38,220
users under 18. from accessing
the new feature. It remains to

1772
01:46:38,220 --> 01:46:41,250
be seen whether these arguments
will be enough to convince EU

1773
01:46:41,250 --> 01:46:45,390
regulators that tick tock does
enough to protect children.

1774
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:48,300
Adam Curry: I mean, those guys
are so genius, those tick tock

1775
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:51,330
guys, they actually did one of
those things that everybody

1776
01:46:51,330 --> 01:46:53,820
said, you know, well, one day,
you'll get paid for your

1777
01:46:53,820 --> 01:46:58,980
attention. And they do it. Hey,
the watch this ad will give you

1778
01:46:58,980 --> 01:47:01,170
some points, some tick tock
points,

1779
01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:03,540
John C Dvorak: you can read a
new phenomenon this has been

1780
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:07,740
tried and tried over the years
since even beginning before our

1781
01:47:07,740 --> 01:47:12,330
show, which is long time ago.
There were all these efforts to

1782
01:47:12,330 --> 01:47:15,150
do this and do that and you get
points. And there's games,

1783
01:47:15,150 --> 01:47:18,000
there's all kinds of games where
you get a weapon, if you did you

1784
01:47:18,030 --> 01:47:20,880
follow through on certain
things, you get an extra weapon

1785
01:47:20,940 --> 01:47:25,440
or weapon. Or you could buy the
weapon on eBay. And there was

1786
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:29,190
all that nobody complained and
now they've they've managed to

1787
01:47:29,310 --> 01:47:34,110
do a better job doing is better,
better, better is better than

1788
01:47:34,110 --> 01:47:37,140
what has been attempted so far.
And so they're pumped up

1789
01:47:37,170 --> 01:47:42,210
punished for it. This reminds me
of, you know, the early days of

1790
01:47:42,210 --> 01:47:45,660
the Internet, or the early days
of personal computer technology

1791
01:47:45,660 --> 01:47:49,350
in the 70s I'd say when Oh,
everything is going to be

1792
01:47:49,350 --> 01:47:53,850
electronic. All the books will
be available electronically. And

1793
01:47:53,850 --> 01:47:56,910
it'll be a giant library with
every all knowledge will be

1794
01:47:56,910 --> 01:47:59,970
accumulated in and you'll be
able to look it up and find

1795
01:47:59,970 --> 01:48:04,560
anything you want. And once they
started doing that, bitching and

1796
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:09,840
moaning about oh no copy, right?
They copied my book, you know,

1797
01:48:09,870 --> 01:48:11,070
out of print book.

1798
01:48:12,900 --> 01:48:16,470
Adam Curry: Nobody reads
anymore. Nobody cares. The audio

1799
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:20,130
books, the audio books. I wanted
to tell you because I was

1800
01:48:20,130 --> 01:48:22,230
listening to bit of DHL
unplugged which you can listen

1801
01:48:22,230 --> 01:48:27,510
to on Tuesdays they do it live.
Is it nine Eastern? And it goes

1802
01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:30,930
on now? Yes, it's six o'clock.
Well, West Coast coming up on

1803
01:48:30,930 --> 01:48:37,320
episode 700. Help. Yes, those
guys. Oh, the reason why Spotify

1804
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,650
got the bump. This is great
story. They, you know, they

1805
01:48:40,650 --> 01:48:44,610
added audiobooks. And because
they have audio books, there's

1806
01:48:44,610 --> 01:48:50,400
some law, or some I would call
the loophole in the law, that

1807
01:48:50,430 --> 01:48:54,600
they now are not just providing
music, forget the podcast part

1808
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,000
from home. They're not just
providing music, but they're

1809
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:02,370
providing a bundle, which means
they can give the artists 25%

1810
01:49:02,370 --> 01:49:08,370
less money. That's why their
cost just went down by 25%.

1811
01:49:08,370 --> 01:49:12,090
Because each user that actually
pays or there's money coming in

1812
01:49:12,090 --> 01:49:15,180
from ads, they have to give less
to the artists because they're

1813
01:49:15,180 --> 01:49:19,620
now a bundle company instead of
just a music company. That's why

1814
01:49:19,620 --> 01:49:20,820
what yeah,

1815
01:49:21,330 --> 01:49:25,500
John C Dvorak: they miss that
one is beautiful. Genius. Oh

1816
01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:26,340
Adam Curry: Swedes man,

1817
01:49:26,370 --> 01:49:30,600
John C Dvorak: we're bitching
about tick tock. Yeah. Spotify

1818
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:34,860
people should be the ones that
are exploring ated just stealing

1819
01:49:34,860 --> 01:49:37,020
from the poor creators.

1820
01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:44,130
Adam Curry: Refrain from
comment. While speaking of guns,

1821
01:49:44,220 --> 01:49:48,870
you said something about you
when a weapon. New York is now

1822
01:49:49,260 --> 01:49:53,190
off their rocker. But apparently
it's YouTube's algorithm now

1823
01:49:53,190 --> 01:49:54,000
under fire

1824
01:49:54,090 --> 01:49:56,130
Unknown: strong words tonight
from the district attorney of

1825
01:49:56,130 --> 01:49:59,970
Manhattan aimed at YouTube for
an algorithm that promotes video

1826
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,510
Go showing kids how to build an
illegal fire. They're calling

1827
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:06,870
it games to guns and law
enforcement believes YouTube

1828
01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:10,470
isn't doing anything to stop it.
Even though it's already against

1829
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:14,730
the company's policy. Da Alvin
Bragg reached out to the CEO of

1830
01:50:14,730 --> 01:50:16,980
YouTube about those guns on the
streets.

1831
01:50:17,820 --> 01:50:20,310
Talking about gun and Saturday.
Here's why when Susan Porter

1832
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:21,660
Darla miles, all

1833
01:50:21,660 --> 01:50:26,550
you need is a computer and house
in an interesting game. And you

1834
01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:29,730
can go from from games to guns
in 15 minutes.

1835
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,730
Here we see investigators
conducting a Call of Duty search

1836
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:36,960
on YouTube, that with just a few
clicks can lead to videos about

1837
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:40,770
how to assemble guns that in
real life kill people.

1838
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:45,300
This is an algorithm that is
driving people in particular our

1839
01:50:45,300 --> 01:50:49,590
use of a few clicks from
watching a video game, to being

1840
01:50:49,590 --> 01:50:53,280
able to build guns to then in
turn, walking around with ghost

1841
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,500
guns on our street and then in
our office because we've charged

1842
01:50:55,500 --> 01:50:56,160
him with a crime

1843
01:50:56,190 --> 01:50:59,070
Manhattan district attorney
Alvin Bragg and senior

1844
01:50:59,070 --> 01:51:02,490
leadership of city ghost gun
enforcement calling out YouTube

1845
01:51:02,490 --> 01:51:05,820
Wednesday afternoon, the DEA
sending this letter to the CEO

1846
01:51:05,820 --> 01:51:09,150
of YouTube about instructional
videos on how to assemble a

1847
01:51:09,150 --> 01:51:12,690
ghost gun being actively pushed
by YouTube's algorithms to

1848
01:51:12,690 --> 01:51:16,680
minors who begin watching clips
of video games. Now there

1849
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,100
Adam Curry: you go. They've got
a ghost gun department in New

1850
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:20,880
York. I like

1851
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,070
John C Dvorak: it. Yeah, but I
don't like to Add New York's do

1852
01:51:23,070 --> 01:51:25,170
and I like the idea that and go
on YouTube and figure out how to

1853
01:51:25,170 --> 01:51:29,550
put together a ghost gun. That's
cool. Just for YouTube.

1854
01:51:29,580 --> 01:51:32,580
Adam Curry: I have one clip I
wanted to play, which is one of

1855
01:51:32,580 --> 01:51:36,360
the anything you see on C span
anything that is done in Senate

1856
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,540
in these hearings. It's all
showboating. It's all like, look

1857
01:51:39,540 --> 01:51:42,570
at me Look at me, I'm
Representative waltz, and I'm

1858
01:51:42,570 --> 01:51:45,750
holding the Air Force to account
this

1859
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:50,460
Unknown: bag of bushings stamped
by machine I don't need a heist

1860
01:51:50,490 --> 01:51:55,530
don't need a high school
diploma. It's not not anything

1861
01:51:55,530 --> 01:51:59,700
high tech about this. All of
this bag is compliant with the

1862
01:51:59,700 --> 01:52:03,870
FAA specifications. How much do
you think the Air Force pays for

1863
01:52:03,870 --> 01:52:09,150
this bag of bushings? I don't
know, Congressman $90,000. This

1864
01:52:09,150 --> 01:52:15,750
is a $90,000 bag of bushings
that you need for any jet

1865
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:21,870
turbine engine just to operate.
So the exorbitant cost due to

1866
01:52:21,870 --> 01:52:25,860
DOD only buying commercial parts
from the OEMs, which essentially

1867
01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:30,120
sole source is literally driving
us out of business. I mean, the

1868
01:52:30,150 --> 01:52:33,960
interest on our debt alone is
now exceeding for the first time

1869
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:38,910
in American history. The entire
defense budget, we can't afford

1870
01:52:38,910 --> 01:52:41,100
it anymore. Oh,

1871
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:45,150
Adam Curry: it costs it costs
100 bucks that bag of brushes.

1872
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,040
And we're paying 90, Chagas

1873
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,480
John C Dvorak: bushings, brushes

1874
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:52,740
Adam Curry: bushings. And we're
paying 90 $90,000 for it. Yeah,

1875
01:52:52,740 --> 01:52:54,480
John C Dvorak: this is nothing
new. But if you want to talk

1876
01:52:54,480 --> 01:52:58,860
about show, buddy, I have two
clips. All right. By the King,

1877
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:06,450
the King John Kennedy, who I've
realized is a ridiculous show

1878
01:53:06,450 --> 01:53:10,020
boater. Yeah, he's funny,
though. He's very funny. And

1879
01:53:10,020 --> 01:53:12,420
he's got he should have his own
channel on YouTube. Because

1880
01:53:12,420 --> 01:53:16,980
there's probably 1000 videos of
him badgering witnesses. Yeah.

1881
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,280
And he does the best job because
what he does is he first he gets

1882
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,070
you to admit that you're an
expert. And then he starts

1883
01:53:23,070 --> 01:53:28,110
asking questions that you can't
answer. And then he doesn't

1884
01:53:28,110 --> 01:53:31,740
understand what you can answer
since you're an expert. And will

1885
01:53:31,740 --> 01:53:34,440
let me then and he keeps asking
the same question over and over

1886
01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:39,090
to humiliate these people. And
he, but I kind of admire who he

1887
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:42,480
humiliates, because in this
case, it's his woman, Zarkon

1888
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:46,230
Milon, who is some sort of a
consultant to the government.

1889
01:53:46,230 --> 01:53:49,830
And she's a social truth,
justice warrior who happens to

1890
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:55,050
know something about tax law. So
he brings her on it just to get

1891
01:53:55,050 --> 01:53:59,220
her to answer a couple of simple
questions. I take his side on

1892
01:53:59,220 --> 01:54:03,390
this, but at the same time,
realize that John Kennedy is

1893
01:54:03,450 --> 01:54:09,270
more of a kind of a show a bit
showman in the way he does this

1894
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:11,880
and it but it's enjoyable. I
think there's a good break for

1895
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:15,810
us, especially after analyzing
the legislation. So here we go.

1896
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:20,520
Unknown: Ms. Mellon is your is
your expertise in the area. Mr.

1897
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:24,420
Bond made this distinction? Is
your expertise in the area of

1898
01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:27,990
tax avoidance or tax evasion or
both?

1899
01:54:28,140 --> 01:54:32,190
I would say both. I think the
lines there's a shame situations

1900
01:54:32,190 --> 01:54:33,780
where the lines might get
blurry, especially on the

1901
01:54:33,780 --> 01:54:39,420
corporate side. But in my it's
both, it's both in short, it's

1902
01:54:39,420 --> 01:54:40,470
both. Do

1903
01:54:40,470 --> 01:54:45,690
you believe that there are major
American corporations that are

1904
01:54:45,690 --> 01:54:47,100
cheating on their taxes?

1905
01:54:47,250 --> 01:54:51,840
I think I think yes, there are
cases where the transfer pricing

1906
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,660
regulations are not being
followed and Mr. Crisis

1907
01:54:54,660 --> 01:54:55,770
testimonials to that.

1908
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,970
Who are the who are the five
name the five American court

1909
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,000
separations that are the biggest
tax cheats. Maybe

1910
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,570
Adam Curry: I should I should
mention that she is from the

1911
01:55:06,570 --> 01:55:11,130
fact coalition and I believe
elsewhere, but I believe these

1912
01:55:11,130 --> 01:55:15,210
are the people who want a global
tax. Am I correct in saying that

1913
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:17,760
John C Dvorak: you might be
right. But the bigger question

1914
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,910
is, Who names their daughter?
Zor? Ken?

1915
01:55:21,330 --> 01:55:24,120
Unknown: Well, this is this is a
question for the IRS. It's their

1916
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:26,490
job to enforce the laws. So I
wouldn't.

1917
01:55:26,940 --> 01:55:29,580
That's a pretty serious
allegation you made there. And

1918
01:55:29,580 --> 01:55:31,530
I'm just asking you who they
are.

1919
01:55:31,710 --> 01:55:34,950
There are cases pending against
a number of companies until they

1920
01:55:34,980 --> 01:55:37,980
those cases conclude I am not
Who do

1921
01:55:37,980 --> 01:55:40,950
you think they are? You're an
expert in this area. I'm just

1922
01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:43,860
asking you. You talked a lot.
And I've read some you writings

1923
01:55:43,860 --> 01:55:47,490
about American corporations
cheating on their taxes? I'm

1924
01:55:47,490 --> 01:55:48,930
just asking you they are.

1925
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:53,250
I wouldn't use the word
cheating. I think that they are

1926
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:54,600
taking advantage.

1927
01:55:55,860 --> 01:55:56,910
In your testimony.

1928
01:55:57,570 --> 01:56:00,420
I'm sorry, your testimony.

1929
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,300
I'm just I'm not trying to trick
you. I just want to know you.

1930
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:09,480
You have been very vociferous in
saying that American companies

1931
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:12,780
are cheating. Okay, you will
America, you're entitled to your

1932
01:56:12,780 --> 01:56:16,680
opinion, but you're an expert,
and just tell me who they are.

1933
01:56:16,830 --> 01:56:19,380
I stand by that. I think that
there is evidence to suggest

1934
01:56:19,380 --> 01:56:22,590
that some of these companies and
the IRS has pursued cases

1935
01:56:22,590 --> 01:56:25,860
against a number of the
companies that Mr. Curtis has

1936
01:56:25,860 --> 01:56:31,830
analyzed, including Apple and
Microsoft, and I wouldn't say

1937
01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:33,990
tax cheat. I think that's
putting it too strongly. And I

1938
01:56:33,990 --> 01:56:36,000
didn't use that word, then who
are they?

1939
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:41,670
Adam Curry: So she's Serbian, by
birth, so that's why her name is

1940
01:56:41,670 --> 01:56:45,210
Zorka Zorka. The Serb? Surely
you've heard of her?

1941
01:56:46,110 --> 01:56:51,870
John C Dvorak: Is she? Yeah,
Orca. zorko. He just got he

1942
01:56:51,870 --> 01:56:56,820
hazards hanging dangling. And so
I hate to play these clips,

1943
01:56:56,940 --> 01:57:00,120
because they're pretty long, but
it's just fun to watch. Because

1944
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:04,860
it's a style of that you anyone
can adopt. If you've ever done

1945
01:57:04,860 --> 01:57:07,650
testimony, if ever we're
especially with the government.

1946
01:57:08,070 --> 01:57:13,530
It's just a hone in on some
weakness, and just keep hounding

1947
01:57:13,530 --> 01:57:18,270
a person who refuses really,
it's just just a show showboater

1948
01:57:18,270 --> 01:57:22,560
herself, because she can't name
anybody. Here we go. I

1949
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,290
Unknown: wouldn't I wouldn't say
tax cheats, but I think they are

1950
01:57:26,700 --> 01:57:30,300
crossing the legal lines that
have been set by Congress and by

1951
01:57:30,300 --> 01:57:34,050
the IRS in the relevant
regulations. And because the IRS

1952
01:57:34,050 --> 01:57:36,150
is outgunned, we are not able to

1953
01:57:37,290 --> 01:57:41,520
Adam Curry: do outgun they got
80,000 More VA positions to fill

1954
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:42,960
and the money for it.

1955
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:48,300
Unknown: Do you believe that
their major American corporation

1956
01:57:48,330 --> 01:57:50,100
cheating on their taxes? I

1957
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:53,730
believe they are coming very
close to crossing the line and

1958
01:57:53,730 --> 01:57:57,240
it's difficult for IRS to line?

1959
01:57:57,390 --> 01:57:59,160
Are they crossing the line or
not?

1960
01:57:59,430 --> 01:58:01,470
Well, it's up to the IRS to
enforce the law. And if they

1961
01:58:01,470 --> 01:58:04,080
don't have to be your opinion,
you are an expert. I think

1962
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,270
there's a good case to be made
that yes, they are prosecuted.

1963
01:58:06,270 --> 01:58:10,860
Yes. Yes. Who are they? That's
up to the courts and the IRS to

1964
01:58:10,860 --> 01:58:11,430
determine

1965
01:58:13,470 --> 01:58:16,620
your made this allegation. But
you don't want to say who they

1966
01:58:16,620 --> 01:58:20,640
are had. I mean, if you you know
who they are. You just don't

1967
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:21,540
want to tell us.

1968
01:58:21,690 --> 01:58:26,490
I think that's that's that's
been explained by Mr. Curtis

1969
01:58:27,300 --> 01:58:27,990
values

1970
01:58:27,990 --> 01:58:31,380
to explain. You talk about tax
cheats. I'm just asking you who

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they are. And you don't want to
tell us?

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It's It's again, I think it's
for the IRS enforce it. I need

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to make sure that the IRS is
properly

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Do you have a list of these tax
sheets? No, no. Okay. Have you

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been to the IRS and said, Here's
a list here of these companies

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and they're cheating on their
taxes and I can show you how

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they're doing

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it. No, I'm not. That's that's
that's not I've I've never

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practiced in that area of law,
tax whistleblower lawyer you've

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done

1981
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is run around saying that
American companies are cheating

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on their taxes. I can't tell you
who they are. And I haven't been

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the IRS to show my data to the
IRS. But I want you to believe

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me that they're cheating on me.

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Adam Curry: I should have said,
but Mr. Sen. Snitches get

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01:59:15,630 --> 01:59:17,490
stitches. Don't you know that is

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Unknown: is that your testimony
today? No,

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Senator. No, that sure sounds
like I know. I think that the

1989
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case again, some of these
companies has been well

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documented in the

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public because I'm gonna run out
of time. Tell me in the last 23

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seconds here, here's your here's
your chance. You believe there

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major American corporations
cheating on their tax? You just

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You just testified that I
believe you told me yes. Tell me

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who they are.

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I think they are the companies
that Mr. Curtis discussed in his

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in his testimony. Tell me it
includes some of the big tech

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companies or pharma companies
that are the five worst I don't

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have a ranking I have not
compiled you don't want to say I

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just I have and looked into that

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02:00:01,230 --> 02:00:04,440
you understand it makes it hard
to believe your allegations if

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he won't tell us who they are.
talk's cheap. You ever heard

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that expression? Thank you, Jim.

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Adam Curry: That was good. Yeah,

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02:00:14,190 --> 02:00:16,710
John C Dvorak: I mean, but this
is this is stick. He does what

2006
02:00:16,710 --> 02:00:20,100
he does, yeah, this stick here,
it gets old. You can't listen to

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it all the time. But every once
in a while, you get some dummy

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up there who's just swinging in
the wind, and he's just taking

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02:00:25,530 --> 02:00:29,490
potshots at her. Yeah. And it
continues, and it's just like,

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they can't answer that question
at all. And it makes you wonder

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02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,300
about the cut incompetence,
basically, of all these

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consultants and people that work
within the government are she's,

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Adam Curry: she's this this fact
organization is a nonprofit 501

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C three, they do about $5
million a year. And they have

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not filed their 2020 to form
nine tax cheats. She's a tax

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cheat, she's in default. Having
done 2022, let alone 2023. I'm

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going to move to climate change.
Now the true biggest danger we

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02:01:05,490 --> 02:01:10,890
have amongst us in our our crazy
representative rented

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representatives who we have
elected, who are all all of them

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are all in on this. I doubt us
AIPAC funding it, but someone's

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02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:25,620
funding this climate stuff. And
finally, we have a lead a little

2022
02:01:25,620 --> 02:01:28,200
bit of we're going to turn up
the corner. And I'm going to

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02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:31,230
tell you what may be coming.
This is from CBS

2024
02:01:31,230 --> 02:01:33,990
Unknown: for some analysis we
want to bring on Melissa lon

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02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:36,240
she's a professor at Columbia
University's climate school.

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Tell me what a climate emergency
is and and what that might

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entail. I don't know if

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Adam Curry: you heard this. But
President Biden has alluded to a

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climate emergency that he might
be an executive order a climate

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emergency what that

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Unknown: might entail.

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So when we talk about the
potential for the President to

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declare a climate emergency,
what it's saying is, you know

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what, there's a national
emergency going on, and I need

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extra powers to be able to
respond to it to protect the US.

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This is a contentious decision,
if it's made this discussions

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come up many times. But if it is
made, then the President would

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have additional powers in the
short term, and immediately

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and what what might those powers
look like? And who would be the

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first to be nervous about new
powers the President might have?

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In other words, I mean, would it
be fossil Trump fuel companies?

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02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:21,480
What did? How would how might
that work?

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02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:23,640
Adam Curry: How about the
American citizens should be

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02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:28,260
worried about if Biden declares
a climate emergency? We're in a

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02:02:28,260 --> 02:02:32,550
state of emergency? That could
be COVID? Like powers? Could be

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02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:36,390
anything he wants? Once you have
emergency powers? It's just the

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02:02:36,390 --> 02:02:37,830
beginning of the fun. Yeah.

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Unknown: So if the President
does this, he would have access

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02:02:40,050 --> 02:02:42,330
to a lot of empowers I know,
what's been talked about is the

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ability to control how we're
able to sell fossil fuels, are

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02:02:46,410 --> 02:02:48,510
we able to export you're able to
send it to different parts of

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02:02:48,510 --> 02:02:51,570
the world. Now, obviously, the
countries that organizations

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that depend on those exports,
they would be concerned about it

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as the companies. But that's not
all that the President can do.

2055
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The president can do a lot to
bolster up the manufacturing and

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production of clean energy
technologies, and combined with

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some other powers that he has,
or that he could take advantage

2058
02:03:06,180 --> 02:03:08,700
of, he could move the needle
when it comes to climate change

2059
02:03:08,700 --> 02:03:11,910
and emissions. So it's a mixed
bag. I will say when you talk to

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companies, uncertainty is the
worst. If I can plan around it,

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02:03:17,130 --> 02:03:19,740
I'm happy even if it's maybe not
the outcome, I want it to be

2062
02:03:19,740 --> 02:03:22,320
uncertainty of is this going to
happen? When might it happen?

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02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:25,590
And how might it be implemented?
is a stress point? Yes, a

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02:03:25,590 --> 02:03:30,660
Adam Curry: stress point. Here's
the best part. So yesterday

2065
02:03:30,660 --> 02:03:33,930
doesn't matter. Nozman. And he
brings back and Obama favorite?

2066
02:03:34,050 --> 02:03:36,870
Because the first thing you do
in an emergency is you get your

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02:03:36,870 --> 02:03:38,580
brown shirts on the streets.

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Unknown: Let me just talk about
the climate corps. How do you

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02:03:42,210 --> 02:03:44,850
understand the climate corps and
what it's supposed to do it?

2070
02:03:44,850 --> 02:03:49,950
Obviously it echoes of FDR. of
Hitler. What what are we getting

2071
02:03:49,950 --> 02:03:52,440
from the climate accord, which
President discussed yesterday?

2072
02:03:52,980 --> 02:03:55,320
Adam Curry: From the climate
car, we had to check your

2073
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,470
climate regulations in your
house? How was your thermostat?

2074
02:03:58,500 --> 02:04:00,120
You want the kind of car do you
have?

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02:04:00,150 --> 02:04:02,880
Unknown: Yeah, so the Climate
Corp is trying to address or at

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02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,220
least as an outsider, as a
professor University, when I'm

2077
02:04:05,220 --> 02:04:07,200
studying it, is trying to
address a couple different

2078
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:10,560
things. One, we do not have the
workforce that we need. If we

2079
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:13,320
want to reduce emissions, if we
want to clean up pollution, we

2080
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,260
don't have people trained in
different skills. We

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02:04:16,260 --> 02:04:19,200
Adam Curry: don't have people to
clean up pollution. What what

2082
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:21,150
does that even mean? Professor,
we don't

2083
02:04:21,150 --> 02:04:23,250
Unknown: have people trained in
the different skill sets that we

2084
02:04:23,250 --> 02:04:25,530
need. And we need them very
quickly if we're going to

2085
02:04:25,530 --> 02:04:28,230
respond to climate change, which
is already happening and already

2086
02:04:28,230 --> 02:04:31,410
affecting our health. So as a
result of that, how do you train

2087
02:04:31,410 --> 02:04:34,380
up those people at the same
time? show folks that there are

2088
02:04:34,380 --> 02:04:36,780
opportunities for all different
skill sets all different

2089
02:04:36,780 --> 02:04:39,480
backgrounds to contribute
positively in their communities

2090
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:40,260
in their states?

2091
02:04:40,500 --> 02:04:44,880
Adam Curry: Everybody can join
the climate corps. It's fun kids

2092
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:48,630
join the climate corps get a
cool uniform with an armband.

2093
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:56,430
Yeah. These people are nuts. And
this is this has got to be my

2094
02:04:56,430 --> 02:05:03,210
favorite climate Kook is a new
climate Kook. So this is I think

2095
02:05:03,210 --> 02:05:09,270
this could be spun into a new
y2k bonanza. And of course,

2096
02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:12,600
we'll completely forget that
y2k. How about just for people

2097
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:18,180
who are too young to remember,
you have to realize that in the

2098
02:05:18,180 --> 02:05:22,920
year 2000, and leading up to the
year 2000, we were told that to

2099
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:27,180
your ramp to your ramp that the
world was going to it was over.

2100
02:05:27,570 --> 02:05:30,090
The world was going to melt
down. Just want to summarize the

2101
02:05:30,090 --> 02:05:32,190
y2k issue for everybody. Yeah,

2102
02:05:32,190 --> 02:05:37,650
John C Dvorak: there was a
round, I think it was 97. But

2103
02:05:37,740 --> 02:05:41,520
definitely by 98, someone had
figured out that when the year

2104
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:47,280
2000 comes around, that all old
COBOL and other Fortran and

2105
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:49,860
other programs which are
dominating some parts of

2106
02:05:49,860 --> 02:05:54,210
businesses couldn't get the
date, right, when we flipped to

2107
02:05:54,210 --> 02:05:58,140
the year 2000, all of a sudden,
it would become 1900, who knows

2108
02:05:58,140 --> 02:06:03,210
what. And because we'd go to 00,
as opposed to 98 wouldn't want

2109
02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:06,330
Adam Curry: to go to like 1976,
or something was going to reset

2110
02:06:06,330 --> 02:06:08,130
to some weird year, it was

2111
02:06:08,130 --> 02:06:10,440
John C Dvorak: going to reset
the 1900 As far as I remember,

2112
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:13,740
but it was going to reset to the
wrong year and it was going to

2113
02:06:13,740 --> 02:06:17,910
screw up everything. Because now
nothing will work. Airplanes

2114
02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:18,000
will

2115
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:21,180
Adam Curry: die VanCleave would
follow this

2116
02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:24,060
John C Dvorak: guy that with all
the ATM machines are either just

2117
02:06:24,180 --> 02:06:26,490
going throwing money away

2118
02:06:27,690 --> 02:06:31,110
Adam Curry: money printing out
of it. And

2119
02:06:31,110 --> 02:06:33,660
John C Dvorak: the lights of the
greatest gonna go down. By the

2120
02:06:33,660 --> 02:06:37,920
way, Alex Jones was one of the
top guys on this. Yeah. And I

2121
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:41,310
still have some old clips from
him going, Oh, it's beginning.

2122
02:06:41,670 --> 02:06:46,290
As you know, the lights have
gone out in Cleveland. He was

2123
02:06:46,290 --> 02:06:47,640
all over it. And

2124
02:06:48,690 --> 02:06:52,200
Adam Curry: let me see do I
have? Do we have something of

2125
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:57,000
Alex Jones on Joe Rogan wrong
about y2k? That's, that's what

2126
02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:57,390
is this? Oh,

2127
02:06:57,630 --> 02:07:00,960
John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, Alex
was all he was Major y2k nut.

2128
02:07:01,110 --> 02:07:03,750
And But meanwhile, what was
going really happening was that

2129
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:07,650
the consultants were coming out
of the woods, they were

2130
02:07:07,650 --> 02:07:10,980
printing, they weren't the money
was literally printing money.

2131
02:07:10,980 --> 02:07:14,700
And I knew a couple of them. And
I and I was you know, I was

2132
02:07:14,700 --> 02:07:16,830
skeptical from the beginning,
because it didn't make any sense

2133
02:07:16,830 --> 02:07:18,960
to me that any of this stuff
would happen, because it does

2134
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:23,100
just doesn't work that way. And
I had a couple of the greats, I

2135
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:27,780
used to give a lot of speeches,
and I was my y2k speech was

2136
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:31,770
generally a mockery of all these
predictions. Is

2137
02:07:31,770 --> 02:07:34,200
Adam Curry: this when your
public speaking career ended

2138
02:07:34,230 --> 02:07:36,120
around 2000? No.

2139
02:07:36,450 --> 02:07:39,150
John C Dvorak: Well, actually,
it did drop off a bit, because

2140
02:07:39,210 --> 02:07:44,250
speeches were quite popular.
And, but it was like, and it was

2141
02:07:44,250 --> 02:07:48,240
a big major deal. And it ended
up costing American businesses,

2142
02:07:48,810 --> 02:07:53,610
billions of dollars and fees and
fixes that didn't, weren't

2143
02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:55,590
necessary and everything in
between, and

2144
02:07:55,590 --> 02:08:00,000
Adam Curry: auditing, auditing
and auditing, auditing. And it

2145
02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:03,990
John C Dvorak: contributed to
the.com collapse and sunk the

2146
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:06,720
economy. And it really never
recovered. And when it finally

2147
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:11,040
recovered, it was 2007 2008 when
he had a secondary situation

2148
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:14,700
where it was just folded. The
economy just went under the

2149
02:08:14,730 --> 02:08:20,730
under the tent that was going
down. The economy was never the

2150
02:08:20,730 --> 02:08:25,170
same, based on the two
constructs of that of the

2151
02:08:25,170 --> 02:08:30,510
99 2000 2001. Era. That was
the.com collapse combined with

2152
02:08:30,510 --> 02:08:36,840
the white to it y2k fiasco, a
scam. And it we've never fully

2153
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:39,900
recovered from that that down.
Wow, that's things are much

2154
02:08:39,900 --> 02:08:41,730
better in the 90s than they are
today.

2155
02:08:41,730 --> 02:08:44,670
Adam Curry: Interesting. Well,
that's for sure. And that was

2156
02:08:44,670 --> 02:08:49,140
billions of dollars in 90 $99.
That's when a billion dollars

2157
02:08:49,140 --> 02:08:54,030
meant something. I mean, big
difference in inflation.

2158
02:08:54,060 --> 02:08:57,450
John C Dvorak: The y2k is still
well, an issue we have.

2159
02:08:57,990 --> 02:09:02,460
Adam Curry: We have a climate
change related y2k issue on the

2160
02:09:02,460 --> 02:09:07,020
horizon. The guy who's pushing
it in this clip is sketchy. He's

2161
02:09:07,020 --> 02:09:09,630
a professor, but I think he's
professor. Yeah, he's a

2162
02:09:09,630 --> 02:09:13,710
professor. But he I think he's
onto something I think I think

2163
02:09:13,710 --> 02:09:16,500
this could be played out people
will actually buy this,

2164
02:09:16,620 --> 02:09:20,280
Unknown: the more we see polar
ice melt, the more scientists

2165
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:23,880
tell us that climate change will
have real world effects on our

2166
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:27,900
lives. Melting glaciers likely
mean rising sea levels,

2167
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:35,130
threatening our coastlines. But
it also means less ice at the

2168
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Earth's poles and more waterways
spread around to other places.

2169
02:09:39,780 --> 02:09:44,100
And that's leading to the earth
slowing down human activity has

2170
02:09:44,100 --> 02:09:51,360
changed the rotation of the
Earth. Not exactly like what

2171
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:55,020
happens when Superman flies
around the earth and reverses

2172
02:09:55,020 --> 02:09:59,070
time in the movie, but enough to
actually slow down the rotation

2173
02:09:59,100 --> 02:10:03,210
of our planet. do a rotation
that's been speeding up slightly

2174
02:10:03,330 --> 02:10:04,860
for decades that

2175
02:10:04,860 --> 02:10:08,190
Adam Curry: trend slowed, turned
around and is now going in the

2176
02:10:08,190 --> 02:10:10,920
other direction. And that's all
because of the effect of global

2177
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warming. That's

2178
02:10:12,270 --> 02:10:15,780
Unknown: Duncan Agnew who runs a
study out of San Diego Scripps

2179
02:10:15,780 --> 02:10:20,190
Institute for oceanography. His
study says we may actually have

2180
02:10:20,190 --> 02:10:24,570
to subtract a so called leap
second from our atomic clocks,

2181
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:28,620
because of the slowing planet. A
move that would be painful for

2182
02:10:28,620 --> 02:10:32,190
satellites, computers, not to
mention financial and energy

2183
02:10:32,190 --> 02:10:35,430
systems that rely on precise
timing.

2184
02:10:35,580 --> 02:10:37,740
Adam Curry: We've never had an
aided leap second before it's

2185
02:10:37,740 --> 02:10:40,530
hard enough synchronizing
computers when there's a new add

2186
02:10:40,530 --> 02:10:45,870
a second, but nobody's prepared
to do what's necessary when you

2187
02:10:45,870 --> 02:10:49,410
have to have a negative second.
Come on, man. I can see this one

2188
02:10:49,410 --> 02:10:52,950
spin and out. They can they can
ramp this up. They can ramp it

2189
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:53,070
up

2190
02:10:53,070 --> 02:10:56,670
John C Dvorak: one thing I saw
this, and this Yeah, he doesn't

2191
02:10:56,670 --> 02:10:57,600
look right.

2192
02:10:58,860 --> 02:11:01,770
Adam Curry: Here he looks like
he's on the spectrum. He's got

2193
02:11:01,770 --> 02:11:02,550
some issues.

2194
02:11:04,020 --> 02:11:07,260
John C Dvorak: For sure. It's
okay that we have to add a leap

2195
02:11:07,260 --> 02:11:10,050
second, every few every so
often. I don't know what the

2196
02:11:10,230 --> 02:11:14,070
what the frequency is. But now
that it's going to be

2197
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:18,120
subtracting one this is going to
cause nothing but Havoc is what

2198
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:21,150
his theory is, is all because of
global warming if he stopped at

2199
02:11:21,150 --> 02:11:24,420
these problems wouldn't exist.
Exactly. And it's like, Oh,

2200
02:11:24,420 --> 02:11:29,190
please. This became a news
story. These people on the

2201
02:11:29,190 --> 02:11:34,290
networks, they, they really are
giving us lousy product. This

2202
02:11:34,290 --> 02:11:36,810
stinks. I mean, we just no good
we keep

2203
02:11:36,810 --> 02:11:40,380
Adam Curry: saying for more
years. But we can't. There may

2204
02:11:40,380 --> 02:11:43,830
be no more news to deconstruct
by that time, because no one

2205
02:11:43,830 --> 02:11:49,530
will want to hear it. I mean,
it's become so stupid. I mean,

2206
02:11:49,530 --> 02:11:53,160
we're gonna deconstruct Megyn
Kelly, what are we going to do?

2207
02:11:56,850 --> 02:11:59,850
John C Dvorak: I have COVID
stuff. COVID backs I thought was

2208
02:11:59,850 --> 02:12:00,360
funny.

2209
02:12:02,580 --> 02:12:06,570
Adam Curry: Okay, COVID Vax is
always funny because then I'll

2210
02:12:06,570 --> 02:12:09,120
talk about heart failures always
funny.

2211
02:12:10,020 --> 02:12:14,580
John C Dvorak: It's, it's, this
is McCullough, QA on a podcast

2212
02:12:16,380 --> 02:12:21,090
at the Brian Shapiro occupied
Democrats podcast where this is

2213
02:12:21,150 --> 02:12:25,620
an example of some of the worst
podcasting and, and types of

2214
02:12:25,620 --> 02:12:30,300
questioning that anyone can
imagine from any podcaster it's

2215
02:12:30,330 --> 02:12:33,660
as though we did the podcast is
as thus Hey, Adam, would you

2216
02:12:33,660 --> 02:12:37,440
agree with me that Oh, brother,
really? It's not I mean, that

2217
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:40,830
style of living the wind
rational testimony?

2218
02:12:40,860 --> 02:12:44,850
Adam Curry: Yeah, leading the
witness. All right. Caller I

2219
02:12:44,850 --> 02:12:45,000
don't

2220
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,340
John C Dvorak: know why he's on
this podcast or what he's got to

2221
02:12:47,340 --> 02:12:50,370
do with it. But this guy is one
of our you know,

2222
02:12:50,670 --> 02:12:53,730
Adam Curry: five caller is the
is the man we trust the man.

2223
02:12:53,730 --> 02:12:55,500
John C Dvorak: He's the guy.
He's the guy you listen to

2224
02:12:55,530 --> 02:12:57,780
because he does and he doesn't
put up with guff. And so here we

2225
02:12:57,780 --> 02:12:59,010
go put one up with guff

2226
02:12:59,070 --> 02:13:01,440
Unknown: talk about vaccines
with you. Would you agree with

2227
02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:06,150
me that the vaccines for COVID
have done far more good for

2228
02:13:06,150 --> 02:13:09,240
people in this country than the
NACA there are so many people

2229
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:11,910
still that say COVID? The
vaccines have killed millions of

2230
02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:14,760
people that all these
professional athletes are dying

2231
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:18,270
of myocarditis when it's just
not true. So would you agree

2232
02:13:18,270 --> 02:13:21,060
with me that the vaccines have
done far more good for people

2233
02:13:21,060 --> 02:13:21,600
than bad?

2234
02:13:21,750 --> 02:13:25,050
Adam Curry: I have to be I just
did an interview the other day

2235
02:13:25,050 --> 02:13:28,680
for a podcast, one of the
unheard of the union of the

2236
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:32,250
unwanted who by the way, want
you? They really want Johnson a

2237
02:13:32,250 --> 02:13:32,850
union

2238
02:13:32,850 --> 02:13:34,920
John C Dvorak: of the unwanted
watch me? Yeah.

2239
02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:40,830
Adam Curry: Go figure. And you
get to like these long

2240
02:13:40,830 --> 02:13:44,160
questions. And like, would you
agree with me as I got this?

2241
02:13:44,160 --> 02:13:46,170
Yeah, this is very podcast it
Well,

2242
02:13:46,170 --> 02:13:49,470
John C Dvorak: what happened?
It's better wait. It's bad

2243
02:13:49,470 --> 02:13:54,360
podcast it and it stems from and
I believe it it's it evolves

2244
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:57,900
from people listened to too many
Senate hearings? Yeah. Where the

2245
02:13:57,900 --> 02:14:01,320
senator says, Would you believe
me? And they tried to get does

2246
02:14:01,350 --> 02:14:04,410
beyond leading the witness? Is
it trying to pre answer the

2247
02:14:04,410 --> 02:14:07,500
question, but I have the sense
that this guy doesn't know who

2248
02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:10,110
Macaulay is because he's not
going to get away with any of

2249
02:14:10,110 --> 02:14:10,710
this. Well,

2250
02:14:10,740 --> 02:14:13,650
Adam Curry: but the logical
conclusion of what you just said

2251
02:14:13,650 --> 02:14:18,510
there is that all of our elected
representatives in Congress are

2252
02:14:18,510 --> 02:14:22,020
in essence, bad podcasters.
Exactly.

2253
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:24,900
Unknown: Far more good for
people than bad. Well, what

2254
02:14:24,900 --> 02:14:25,920
evidence do you have for that?

2255
02:14:26,430 --> 02:14:29,130
What evidence do you have that
that all these people are dying

2256
02:14:29,130 --> 02:14:30,060
in the vaccines?

2257
02:14:30,090 --> 02:14:34,680
Well, let's just take let's take
safety first. Because we always

2258
02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:38,670
discuss safety before efficacy.
Would you agree with that? Sure.

2259
02:14:38,700 --> 02:14:42,060
Sure. Yeah. Right. So it doesn't
matter how good a product is. It

2260
02:14:42,060 --> 02:14:43,950
has to be safe. Would you agree
with that?

2261
02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:47,250
I don't think there's any
vaccination that's 100%

2262
02:14:47,250 --> 02:14:49,740
foolproof safe, you know that
okay,

2263
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:52,320
but it would have to have
acceptable safety. Would you

2264
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:52,980
agree with that?

2265
02:14:53,310 --> 02:14:56,040
It depends on your definition of
acceptable safety.

2266
02:14:57,060 --> 02:15:03,030
Adam Curry: This guy a doctor,
what is what is eat Have you

2267
02:15:03,060 --> 02:15:05,370
tried to torture us here? What
are you doing with it?

2268
02:15:05,400 --> 02:15:07,350
Unknown: We're in a global
pandemic, where at one point we

2269
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:10,290
were losing 5000 Americans per
day. So obviously, these were

2270
02:15:10,290 --> 02:15:12,150
extenuating circumstances. But
go ahead.

2271
02:15:12,450 --> 02:15:14,910
But what would be your
definition of acceptable safety?

2272
02:15:16,139 --> 02:15:21,569
Well, I while I'm not a doctor,
and you are, I would say, in my

2273
02:15:21,569 --> 02:15:25,289
personal opinion, looking back
on half the world being

2274
02:15:25,289 --> 02:15:27,779
vaccinated, in fact, more than
half the world as you know, at

2275
02:15:27,779 --> 02:15:32,399
this point, there is no direct
evidence that these vaccinations

2276
02:15:32,429 --> 02:15:36,059
are people are dropping dead
left and right. And as you know,

2277
02:15:36,089 --> 02:15:39,809
specifically on right wing
media, and right wing talk shows

2278
02:15:39,809 --> 02:15:42,449
they claim that all these
professional athletes are dying

2279
02:15:42,449 --> 02:15:45,449
of myocarditis. Because of the
vaccines when they don't even

2280
02:15:45,449 --> 02:15:47,369
know if these people were
vaccinated. They don't know

2281
02:15:47,369 --> 02:15:50,189
their medical history. And it's
frustrating for me, doctor,

2282
02:15:50,189 --> 02:15:52,859
because I believe the vaccine
saved my life. I believe it

2283
02:15:52,859 --> 02:15:55,979
saved my parents life. And in so
many studies out there, you

2284
02:15:55,979 --> 02:15:59,639
know, listen, you could as you
know this, you can get COVID If

2285
02:15:59,639 --> 02:16:01,919
you're vaccinated, it didn't
give you a lesser chance of

2286
02:16:01,919 --> 02:16:04,799
getting infected or giving it to
somebody else. However, you are

2287
02:16:05,009 --> 02:16:07,319
in so many studies that I've
seen, and you can tell me if you

2288
02:16:07,319 --> 02:16:11,429
disagree, far less likely to get
the effects of having to go into

2289
02:16:11,429 --> 02:16:14,969
the ICU or possibly dying if you
were vaccinated. Am I wrong?

2290
02:16:15,209 --> 02:16:15,959
Yeah, you're wrong.

2291
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:19,590
Adam Curry: What is the name of
this? podcaster?

2292
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:21,270
John C Dvorak: It's the name is?

2293
02:16:22,110 --> 02:16:24,750
Adam Curry: Yeah. Brian Shapiro.
Yes, the

2294
02:16:24,750 --> 02:16:26,850
John C Dvorak: Brian Shapiro
occupied Democrat.

2295
02:16:27,420 --> 02:16:31,620
Adam Curry: I'm taking his
license away, removing his show.

2296
02:16:32,310 --> 02:16:35,040
John C Dvorak: So this is
another example. This is a like

2297
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:40,920
the Kennedy stuff earlier
example of how to testify how to

2298
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:45,750
respond and how to deal with
guys like this. This guy is so

2299
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:50,640
bigoted. And so now mycologist
goes into you and stick it to

2300
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:50,790
him.

2301
02:16:52,590 --> 02:16:54,780
Adam Curry: You're a doctor,
aren't you? Am I correct in

2302
02:16:54,780 --> 02:16:55,950
assuming you're a doctor?

2303
02:16:56,850 --> 02:17:01,830
John C Dvorak: And so I just
thought, yeah, I just thought I

2304
02:17:01,830 --> 02:17:04,260
actually had three of these. I
thought there was only two but

2305
02:17:04,860 --> 02:17:08,790
McCullough is, I don't know why
he's on this podcast. I don't

2306
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:09,630
know what the point of it

2307
02:17:09,630 --> 02:17:12,840
Adam Curry: is. And we need he
needs an agent like, hey, hey,

2308
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:13,620
Pete, don't do

2309
02:17:13,619 --> 02:17:16,139
John C Dvorak: podcasts like
this because Carlos is irked.

2310
02:17:16,619 --> 02:17:21,029
And this guy is like, Tim Poole
want to be this this podcast or

2311
02:17:21,029 --> 02:17:26,429
is fast talk or talk bla bla bla
bla bla, but he's all of these

2312
02:17:26,429 --> 02:17:31,049
podcasters come from I don't get
it. Bruce Lee, and what are

2313
02:17:31,050 --> 02:17:32,730
Adam Curry: you listening to
these things? So how does how do

2314
02:17:32,730 --> 02:17:34,410
you? How do you acquire this?

2315
02:17:34,590 --> 02:17:37,620
John C Dvorak: I acquire these
things through sources.

2316
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:41,550
Unknown: And here's the reason
why the prospective randomized,

2317
02:17:41,550 --> 02:17:45,630
double blind, placebo controlled
clinical trials of the vaccines

2318
02:17:45,960 --> 02:17:49,830
never showed a reduction in
severity. They never showed a

2319
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:54,240
reduction in hospitalization and
death. And what's come out over

2320
02:17:54,240 --> 02:17:59,370
time, is the virus has mutated
to become a much milder virus.

2321
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:02,790
So as the vaccines were rolling
out, you know, we were being

2322
02:18:02,790 --> 02:18:06,090
confronted with a less mild
virus. The other thing, I mean,

2323
02:18:06,090 --> 02:18:08,670
a less severe virus more mild.
The other thing that happened is

2324
02:18:08,670 --> 02:18:12,090
we learned how to treat the
illness. So we treated patients

2325
02:18:12,120 --> 02:18:15,390
early, and we avoided
hospitalization and death. So

2326
02:18:15,390 --> 02:18:20,010
the two major things that saved
people's lives, were having

2327
02:18:20,010 --> 02:18:24,270
natural immunity from the first
round of infection. And then

2328
02:18:24,300 --> 02:18:28,260
early treatment. What happened
with the vaccines? Remember, the

2329
02:18:28,260 --> 02:18:31,560
vaccines came in late, you know,
so we're worried a year the

2330
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:34,710
pandemic we've been treating
people for a year. The vaccines

2331
02:18:34,710 --> 02:18:41,250
come in late. And in a recent
paper by Norman Fenton from the

2332
02:18:41,250 --> 02:18:44,670
UK, he shown that there was
tremendous misclassification

2333
02:18:44,670 --> 02:18:51,540
bias. So when they declared that
there was a a, a epidemic of the

2334
02:18:51,540 --> 02:18:55,380
unvaccinated In fact, the
hospitals weren't, you know,

2335
02:18:55,380 --> 02:18:58,350
they had no they had no idea who
was vaccinated or not. They

2336
02:18:58,350 --> 02:19:01,890
didn't have connection to the
CDC vaccine records. They

2337
02:19:01,890 --> 02:19:05,070
weren't going in the ICU and
figuring out people on the

2338
02:19:05,070 --> 02:19:08,310
ventilator who were vaccinated
who weren't. In countries that

2339
02:19:08,310 --> 02:19:12,030
actually did have the vaccine
status like the UK, they found

2340
02:19:12,030 --> 02:19:15,150
far more vaccinated in the
hospital on ventilators and

2341
02:19:15,150 --> 02:19:18,360
dying than the unvaccinated and
in a paper by Shrestha and

2342
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:21,870
colleagues from the Cleveland
Clinic, the least the lowest

2343
02:19:21,870 --> 02:19:26,340
risk workers that they have in
51,000 workers are the

2344
02:19:26,430 --> 02:19:30,810
unvaccinated and with every
single injection one is more and

2345
02:19:30,810 --> 02:19:32,520
more likely to get COVID-19

2346
02:19:32,850 --> 02:19:35,550
Adam Curry: So I presume this
tarde caster right away went

2347
02:19:35,550 --> 02:19:40,770
okay, well, I guess I was wrong.
As far as what happened?

2348
02:19:42,510 --> 02:19:45,210
John C Dvorak: Not really. I
mean, he's upset with himself

2349
02:19:45,210 --> 02:19:50,460
because he's convinced that the
VAX saved him and his family and

2350
02:19:50,460 --> 02:19:55,140
no, I don't think anybody ever
buys into the the the McCullough

2351
02:19:55,140 --> 02:19:59,100
narrative if they've already
assigned. I mean, once in a

2352
02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:01,620
while you see it on On threads,
you'll see a bunch of people

2353
02:20:01,620 --> 02:20:03,870
going up and down. Stop, stop.

2354
02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:05,940
Adam Curry: You're on threads.

2355
02:20:07,049 --> 02:20:11,279
John C Dvorak: What? No, I meant
threads. Oh, I didn't mean

2356
02:20:11,309 --> 02:20:14,639
threads. I meant on threads you
in other words, a bunch of

2357
02:20:15,239 --> 02:20:15,689
thread

2358
02:20:15,690 --> 02:20:19,770
Adam Curry: on a thread. Yes.
Yes. I'm sorry. I don't

2359
02:20:19,770 --> 02:20:24,210
John C Dvorak: even know how to
get on thread. But I don't know

2360
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:26,010
why you'd stop me anyway.

2361
02:20:26,550 --> 02:20:29,190
Adam Curry: You read on threads.
I'm like, what? You're on

2362
02:20:29,190 --> 02:20:31,650
threads. Threads is a product I
thought you were on a

2363
02:20:31,650 --> 02:20:35,370
John C Dvorak: thread. So you
read it they're ever shown to

2364
02:20:35,370 --> 02:20:37,290
somebody that goes out? You
know, I got too many shots. I

2365
02:20:37,290 --> 02:20:40,260
got like set unit up to seven.
All right. I think it's seven.

2366
02:20:40,260 --> 02:20:46,050
Yeah. Oh, he's least and it's
the same useless shot, but they

2367
02:20:46,050 --> 02:20:48,120
keep getting them. And

2368
02:20:48,750 --> 02:20:51,090
Adam Curry: yeah, because they
only last 60 days now according

2369
02:20:51,570 --> 02:20:53,850
John C Dvorak: to even last he
didn't do anything with it

2370
02:20:53,850 --> 02:20:55,470
again, go you need to re

2371
02:20:55,470 --> 02:20:58,050
Adam Curry: up get a boost. All
right. So we just go into this

2372
02:20:58,050 --> 02:21:00,540
last clip here from this guy.
Yeah.

2373
02:21:00,660 --> 02:21:03,570
Unknown: Now the deaths that
have been reported after the

2374
02:21:03,570 --> 02:21:08,700
vaccine are unprecedented. Our
safety system for vaccines

2375
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:12,090
records on average, half the
country takes vaccines in the

2376
02:21:12,090 --> 02:21:17,340
United States before COVID
records on average 150 deaths in

2377
02:21:17,340 --> 02:21:22,860
a year. On average, the COVID 19
vaccines roll out. And as we sit

2378
02:21:22,860 --> 02:21:30,360
here today, our CDC has verified
18,655 Americans dying after the

2379
02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:35,580
vaccine 1150 die on the same day
they take the shots, some die in

2380
02:21:35,580 --> 02:21:41,100
the vaccine center 1200 die the
next day. Now that's under

2381
02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:45,300
reported by a factor in FDA
testimony of about 30 We're

2382
02:21:45,300 --> 02:21:50,250
looking as we sit here today if
550,000 Plus Americans have died

2383
02:21:50,250 --> 02:21:56,700
after the vaccine, so this is
seen worldwide. There are calls

2384
02:21:56,700 --> 02:22:00,360
to pull these vaccines off the
market they're so grossly unsafe

2385
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:03,090
because people die quickly after
taking them

2386
02:22:04,290 --> 02:22:08,670
Adam Curry: Ah yeah, it's it's
we just had a young a young mom

2387
02:22:08,670 --> 02:22:12,480
with three kids die here in
Fredericksburg husband finds her

2388
02:22:12,510 --> 02:22:16,740
dead in the morning. I mean this
is happening and and it's not

2389
02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:18,630
everybody thank God there's no

2390
02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:20,430
John C Dvorak: it's not it's
just a percentage, but it's a

2391
02:22:20,430 --> 02:22:24,330
high the number high percent and
if you just stop taking the

2392
02:22:24,330 --> 02:22:27,180
shot, that might be a good idea.

2393
02:22:27,210 --> 02:22:29,400
Adam Curry: I mean, and of
course no matter what happens

2394
02:22:29,400 --> 02:22:34,170
when someone dies suddenly you
can't help but think Zach's and

2395
02:22:34,170 --> 02:22:36,750
you don't want to ask? Actually

2396
02:22:36,750 --> 02:22:39,150
John C Dvorak: that's the that
is becoming a I think is

2397
02:22:39,150 --> 02:22:42,930
becoming a problem. Because
that's the is exactly right. The

2398
02:22:42,930 --> 02:22:45,750
first thing you think of, you
know, because you hear somebody

2399
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:48,900
that guy's 33 is in perfect
condition is in great shape. He

2400
02:22:48,900 --> 02:22:51,960
is pumping iron dropped dead.
Yeah. From, you know, just had,

2401
02:22:52,710 --> 02:22:54,330
whatever it is a lot of
different things.

2402
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:56,970
Adam Curry: Well, let's just
let's just listen to some

2403
02:22:57,300 --> 02:23:01,500
circumstantial evidence showing
circumstantial evidence from a

2404
02:23:01,530 --> 02:23:03,720
short little news report hear
things from Chicago

2405
02:23:03,750 --> 02:23:06,450
Unknown: notice and Ben patients
and their doctors are failing

2406
02:23:06,450 --> 02:23:09,690
when it comes to heart care,
heart failure rates are now on

2407
02:23:09,690 --> 02:23:13,500
pace to wipe out prior gains.
According to Jama cardiology,

2408
02:23:13,500 --> 02:23:17,280
long standing declines in heart
failure are now reversing heart

2409
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:21,180
failure, death rates declined
from 1999 to 2005, then

2410
02:23:21,180 --> 02:23:26,460
plateaued to 2012. But from 2012
to 2019, mortality increased to

2411
02:23:26,460 --> 02:23:30,510
levels greater than decades ago,
the most troubling reversal was

2412
02:23:30,510 --> 02:23:34,770
for people younger than 45. And
it got worse in the pandemic,

2413
02:23:34,830 --> 02:23:38,790
Adam Curry: oh gee, no numbers
there. But it got worse. It got

2414
02:23:38,790 --> 02:23:45,450
worse. Oh, these people are
killing us, though. And so this,

2415
02:23:45,450 --> 02:23:48,330
of course, leads to other
issues. This is we have societal

2416
02:23:48,330 --> 02:23:51,990
issues, certainly in the United
States. And that is our well,

2417
02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:55,650
not just making babies but
they're actually calling it The

2418
02:23:55,650 --> 02:23:59,430
fertility rate. I don't know if
that means we're not fertile, or

2419
02:23:59,430 --> 02:24:03,060
we're just not reproducing but
it's a problem. fertility

2420
02:24:03,060 --> 02:24:05,160
Unknown: rate in the United
States has been trending

2421
02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:08,880
downward for decades. And now a
new report shows the rates the

2422
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:12,090
lowest it's been in more than a
century. According to the data

2423
02:24:12,090 --> 02:24:16,290
from the CDC National Center for
Health Statistics. Between 2022

2424
02:24:16,290 --> 02:24:20,430
and 2023. There was a 3% drop in
the number of births that

2425
02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:24,000
brought the fertility rate just
below the previous low from

2426
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:28,590
2020, which was 56 births for
every 1000 women. Well then

2427
02:24:28,620 --> 02:24:32,850
there was another drop in births
last year to less than 55 live

2428
02:24:32,850 --> 02:24:35,940
births for every 1000 women.
Meanwhile, Burke's continue to

2429
02:24:35,940 --> 02:24:38,250
shift also to older mothers.

2430
02:24:39,750 --> 02:24:42,570
Adam Curry: So of course, the
Biden administration's answer to

2431
02:24:42,570 --> 02:24:47,220
this is open the borders let
them all come in because we know

2432
02:24:47,220 --> 02:24:52,980
that we need to suppress wages.
We need to keep those low

2433
02:24:52,980 --> 02:24:55,920
especially with interest rates
so high as they are Ms. real

2434
02:24:55,920 --> 02:25:00,000
problem for the financial
institution. And a lot of this

2435
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,060
is going on. There's he won't
talk about as we discussed in

2436
02:25:03,060 --> 02:25:06,420
the opening rants of people in
their cars, you should look for

2437
02:25:06,690 --> 02:25:11,640
Amazon drivers, Walmart drivers,
they're ranting in their cars

2438
02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:14,520
because they're not getting
these jobs anymore because it's

2439
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:18,450
Venezuelans and other illegal
immigrants who have, you know,

2440
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:21,930
basically cartels with phones
and they're, you know, they're

2441
02:25:21,930 --> 02:25:25,200
getting the ping and they answer
it right away and they got five

2442
02:25:25,200 --> 02:25:27,870
other guys in a car and they've
got you know, that they got no

2443
02:25:27,870 --> 02:25:30,690
licenses. They don't have
insurance, anything like that.

2444
02:25:31,500 --> 02:25:33,390
Anything of anything just
driving

2445
02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:35,790
John C Dvorak: to whole
countries gypsy

2446
02:25:35,790 --> 02:25:39,330
Adam Curry: cab. Yeah, it's Yes,
exactly. And that taking away

2447
02:25:39,510 --> 02:25:45,000
the gig workers gigs. And so
it's, it's a real issue. Now, of

2448
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:47,730
course, you could call in the
curry Devorah consulting group

2449
02:25:47,730 --> 02:25:53,610
and say, What can we do to get
our birth rate up? Coronavirus

2450
02:25:53,610 --> 02:25:56,310
Consulting Group? Do you have an
answer? And we'd go, you know,

2451
02:25:56,940 --> 02:25:59,670
do you want to get something on
TV? You gotta go big pharma

2452
02:25:59,670 --> 02:26:00,720
baby. All right, we

2453
02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:03,030
Unknown: like to talk about the
health stories of the day. First

2454
02:26:03,030 --> 02:26:06,660
up a new study about men who
take Viagra and Alzheimer's,

2455
02:26:07,020 --> 02:26:07,410
right?

2456
02:26:07,410 --> 02:26:10,680
There's been a lot of buzz in
the medical world about the fact

2457
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:13,710
that Viagra may actually
decrease the risk of developing

2458
02:26:13,710 --> 02:26:15,900
Alzheimer's. And a new study
came out that showed that there

2459
02:26:15,900 --> 02:26:20,610
was up to a 56% decrease. So
this is huge. Now when I first

2460
02:26:20,610 --> 02:26:23,520
heard his story, I thought,
Okay, well, it increases blood

2461
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:25,590
flow to the genitals it will
increase blood flow to the

2462
02:26:25,590 --> 02:26:27,900
brain. Maybe that's how it's
working. But it turns out,

2463
02:26:27,930 --> 02:26:31,530
that's not the mechanism of
action. What's happening is that

2464
02:26:31,530 --> 02:26:35,100
folks that have Alzheimer's have
an accumulation of amyloid and

2465
02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:38,100
they also have an accumulation
of something called Tau protein

2466
02:26:38,250 --> 02:26:41,550
that causes tangles in the
neurons that causes the decline

2467
02:26:41,550 --> 02:26:45,450
in cognitive function. It turns
out that Viagra interrupts the

2468
02:26:45,450 --> 02:26:49,020
formation of these tau program.
I love

2469
02:26:49,020 --> 02:26:50,370
Adam Curry: this. Tell take

2470
02:26:50,370 --> 02:26:52,890
John C Dvorak: it all the time.
Take it every day.

2471
02:26:55,500 --> 02:26:58,080
Adam Curry: Actually, the ER
doctor told me that there is

2472
02:26:58,110 --> 02:27:01,230
some validity to this, that
there are all kinds of other

2473
02:27:01,230 --> 02:27:07,920
health benefits from the blood
flow created by Viagra. I find

2474
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:13,080
it highly interesting. Take it
every day. Got to do something

2475
02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:13,470
with it.

2476
02:27:14,880 --> 02:27:18,930
John C Dvorak: I do I have to
pat myself on the back for early

2477
02:27:18,930 --> 02:27:26,010
spotting of a trend. And it's
just beginning to go on. This is

2478
02:27:26,010 --> 02:27:28,710
the parents of criminals bill in
Tennessee. Yeah,

2479
02:27:28,710 --> 02:27:31,320
Adam Curry: you're right. You
did spot this early on and this

2480
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:32,640
is a thing parents

2481
02:27:32,640 --> 02:27:34,620
Unknown: might want to watch
their children a little more

2482
02:27:34,620 --> 02:27:38,460
closely tonight. A bill passed
in Tennessee will now hold

2483
02:27:38,460 --> 02:27:41,820
parents partially responsible
for crimes committed by their

2484
02:27:41,820 --> 02:27:43,980
kids. Hello, I'm Greg Hirsch.
Hi.

2485
02:27:43,980 --> 02:27:47,310
I'm Stephanie Scurlock. It comes
as part of an effort to curb

2486
02:27:47,310 --> 02:27:48,810
juvenile crime in Memphis and

2487
02:27:48,810 --> 02:27:53,220
in the state. WGS Ashley Paul
joins us now live outside of 201

2488
02:27:53,220 --> 02:27:56,490
poplar after speaking with
Sheriff Floyd Bonner, about this

2489
02:27:56,490 --> 02:27:59,310
bill and a couple of others that
will soon become

2490
02:27:59,310 --> 02:28:03,180
law. Ashley? Yeah. Well, it was
just yesterday that Sheriff

2491
02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:06,180
Bonner released a statement
expressing concerns over the

2492
02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:09,030
growing number of juveniles that
are staying at the Youth

2493
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:11,940
Education and Prevention Center
and tonight when we spoke with

2494
02:28:11,940 --> 02:28:15,180
him, he he spoke with us about
some of the efforts being made

2495
02:28:15,180 --> 02:28:16,800
to curb that juvenile crime.

2496
02:28:17,130 --> 02:28:20,820
If we don't sound the alarm now,
what's gonna happen this summer

2497
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:22,410
when the kids are out of school

2498
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:26,070
130 and juveniles are spending
the night at the Youth Education

2499
02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:29,700
and Prevention Center tonight. A
slight dip from the 108 team

2500
02:28:29,700 --> 02:28:32,430
that were there yesterday but
uncomfortably close to the

2501
02:28:32,430 --> 02:28:36,510
record high 125 Since the center
opened last summer,

2502
02:28:36,750 --> 02:28:42,660
is calling all parents to please
please. Let's just take a look

2503
02:28:42,660 --> 02:28:44,880
at our T 's and what they're
doing and who they're hanging

2504
02:28:44,880 --> 02:28:45,390
out with.

2505
02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:48,690
WR eg sat down with Shelby
County Sheriff Floyd Bonner

2506
02:28:48,690 --> 02:28:52,260
today discussing these concerns
and a potential solution passed

2507
02:28:52,260 --> 02:28:55,530
today in Nashville. Under the
parental accountability act

2508
02:28:55,590 --> 02:28:58,890
after the first offense. Parents
of juveniles who commit a crime

2509
02:28:59,010 --> 02:29:03,120
will be required to pay $1,000
for each additional offense. If

2510
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,670
they can't afford the fine, they
will be able to work it off

2511
02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:07,170
through community service,

2512
02:29:07,290 --> 02:29:10,320
and I had to go alone the
Interstate in my friends

2513
02:29:10,320 --> 02:29:14,070
neighbors loved one saw me
picking up trash, because

2514
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:18,090
something that my son had done.
I think I would pay a little bit

2515
02:29:18,090 --> 02:29:19,050
more attention.

2516
02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:25,470
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Wait, what
and the kid just sits back and

2517
02:29:25,470 --> 02:29:29,130
kicks back and is on Tik Tok and
the parents are now cleaning up

2518
02:29:29,130 --> 02:29:30,450
the trash on the interstate.

2519
02:29:31,710 --> 02:29:34,830
John C Dvorak: That would be the
one of the issues. Yes, it

2520
02:29:34,830 --> 02:29:35,670
Adam Curry: was ultimate.

2521
02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:38,820
John C Dvorak: Now this Bonner
guy who sounds like this. This

2522
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:45,060
southern dude is a big black
man. With a beautiful southern

2523
02:29:45,240 --> 02:29:49,710
Tennessee. That's a Tennessee
accent it is absolute classic

2524
02:29:49,710 --> 02:29:54,450
Tennessee accent and except it's
got a little more low notes.

2525
02:29:55,350 --> 02:30:00,120
Yeah, but this is the beginning
of the end. For bad parents. Oh

2526
02:30:01,319 --> 02:30:05,519
Adam Curry: wow well it's and
you think this will work?

2527
02:30:06,180 --> 02:30:07,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think it
will

2528
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:10,620
Adam Curry: and at what

2529
02:30:10,620 --> 02:30:12,900
John C Dvorak: age is the funny
thing is started with start with

2530
02:30:12,900 --> 02:30:17,850
these white parents from the
shooter right and it immediately

2531
02:30:17,850 --> 02:30:21,210
and I first saw it when you said
it you said it's gonna be it

2532
02:30:21,210 --> 02:30:24,120
wasn't from that it was from
from a couple of years earlier

2533
02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:28,050
and I said it then when there
was a shooting a student

2534
02:30:28,050 --> 02:30:32,580
shooting it was in Lithuania or
some foreign country and they

2535
02:30:32,580 --> 02:30:36,630
arrested the parents and that
was the that was to me was the

2536
02:30:36,630 --> 02:30:40,260
trigger to do so that this is
happening and it's going to

2537
02:30:40,260 --> 02:30:42,450
happen it's going to take a
while but it's going to happen

2538
02:30:42,450 --> 02:30:45,420
in the parents are going to now
finally have to be responsible

2539
02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:48,990
for juvenile delinquency now,
it's their fault. Couple

2540
02:30:48,990 --> 02:30:49,440
questions.

2541
02:30:49,440 --> 02:30:55,020
Adam Curry: One, will this only
be up until age 18? I guess I

2542
02:30:55,020 --> 02:30:58,830
think so. Yeah. In that can I
just disown my child like, I

2543
02:30:58,830 --> 02:31:03,360
don't that I disown this child.
It's not mine. No, I can't do

2544
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:03,630
that.

2545
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:07,800
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
No. I

2546
02:31:07,800 --> 02:31:11,190
Adam Curry: have one quick
story. In one clip. There was a

2547
02:31:11,190 --> 02:31:15,330
big frokost Apparently at Joint
Base Andrews. Have you heard

2548
02:31:15,330 --> 02:31:18,780
about this but Secret Service
agents on vice presidents a good

2549
02:31:18,780 --> 02:31:22,830
story Kamala Harris's detail.
They've got into a fight.

2550
02:31:23,130 --> 02:31:25,320
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Do you ever
get Did you research this and

2551
02:31:25,320 --> 02:31:27,480
find out what the fight was
about? Well, yes,

2552
02:31:27,480 --> 02:31:32,700
Adam Curry: I did. So this
female Secret Service agent

2553
02:31:32,700 --> 02:31:35,670
showed up at the terminal and
was acting erratically grabbing

2554
02:31:35,670 --> 02:31:39,930
another senior agents personal
phone and deleting applications

2555
02:31:39,930 --> 02:31:43,530
on it. So she didn't like the
app involved

2556
02:31:43,530 --> 02:31:45,780
John C Dvorak: a female agent
Oh, it gets better.

2557
02:31:47,190 --> 02:31:50,010
Adam Curry: The other agent who
was the shift leader was able to

2558
02:31:50,010 --> 02:31:53,040
recover his phone and then acted
as if nothing had happened. But

2559
02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:56,250
the female agents bizarre
behavior did not stop there. She

2560
02:31:56,250 --> 02:32:01,200
began mumbling to herself,
hiding behind curtains, and then

2561
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:04,770
started throwing items at the
other agents including menstrual

2562
02:32:04,770 --> 02:32:09,360
pads, telling him that he would
need them later to save another

2563
02:32:09,360 --> 02:32:12,420
agent and telling her peers that
they were going to burn in hell

2564
02:32:12,570 --> 02:32:17,010
and needed to listen to God. She
then screamed at the Special

2565
02:32:17,010 --> 02:32:20,130
Agent in Charge rattling off the
names of female officers on the

2566
02:32:20,130 --> 02:32:23,100
Vice President's detail claiming
they would show up and help her

2567
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:26,730
and allow her to continue
working. At that point, other

2568
02:32:26,730 --> 02:32:29,460
agents on the scene believes she
was suffering from a mental

2569
02:32:29,460 --> 02:32:34,440
lapse. And as you think, and the
senior officer approached to

2570
02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:37,470
tell her she was leave relief
from the assignment. That's when

2571
02:32:37,470 --> 02:32:42,540
she snapped entirely. She chest
bumped and shoved her superior

2572
02:32:42,750 --> 02:32:46,470
then tackled him and punched
him. The agents involved

2573
02:32:46,470 --> 02:32:49,260
restraining her we're especially
concerned because she still had

2574
02:32:49,260 --> 02:32:51,960
her gun in a holster that
wrestled her to the ground, took

2575
02:32:51,960 --> 02:32:55,710
the gun cuffed her and removed
her from the terminal. There

2576
02:32:55,710 --> 02:32:59,130
seems like there's more of a
story behind this one. Yeah,

2577
02:32:59,190 --> 02:33:00,960
what was what apps were on his

2578
02:33:00,960 --> 02:33:03,300
John C Dvorak: phone? Well,
obviously she was having an

2579
02:33:03,300 --> 02:33:07,170
affair with someone. This is
what I'm thinking. Yeah. And

2580
02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:11,520
this is the Patreon era. What is
it? brighteners eighth fret.

2581
02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:13,800
fraternization fray Yeah.

2582
02:33:14,730 --> 02:33:16,410
Adam Curry: I can't get that one
out fraternize.

2583
02:33:16,680 --> 02:33:19,620
John C Dvorak: Can't can't do
that on the job but it happens

2584
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:22,560
anyway. No matter whether you
want to or not, but you get this

2585
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:25,890
psychos. Yeah, it's like
remember the net it was a NASA

2586
02:33:26,550 --> 02:33:32,310
astronaut that that was kind of
stalled can some guy and she was

2587
02:33:32,310 --> 02:33:34,830
sitting in there. Oh, yeah.
Remember see peeing in a bottle?

2588
02:33:34,860 --> 02:33:35,160
Oh, no.

2589
02:33:35,160 --> 02:33:37,770
Adam Curry: She wore a diaper
and adult diaper. I drive for

2590
02:33:38,220 --> 02:33:43,650
hours. That was a great story.
That was a good story. Ah, the

2591
02:33:43,650 --> 02:33:45,480
good old days. Yeah.

2592
02:33:46,830 --> 02:33:49,110
John C Dvorak: situations with
unstable people.

2593
02:33:49,860 --> 02:33:54,210
Adam Curry: So that was a great
story. Homeless. Psycho

2594
02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:57,240
John C Dvorak: diaper. Diaper
lady.

2595
02:33:59,820 --> 02:34:01,860
Adam Curry: I don't think that's
so old. I don't even have the

2596
02:34:01,860 --> 02:34:03,780
story anymore. Yeah,

2597
02:34:04,230 --> 02:34:06,060
John C Dvorak: I guess to Texas
border clips.

2598
02:34:06,090 --> 02:34:09,120
Adam Curry: Well, hold on a
second. Because I need to bring

2599
02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:11,700
us up to speed on the bird flu
and then we got to take a break.

2600
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:16,110
We're running late. Yeah, well,
yeah. Do bird flu because you

2601
02:34:16,110 --> 02:34:19,950
know, there's actually two clips
it's important because they're

2602
02:34:19,950 --> 02:34:23,160
starting to scare us now all
bird flu bird flu it's in the

2603
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:23,760
mail because

2604
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:26,520
Unknown: in the mail this
morning the FDA insists listen

2605
02:34:26,520 --> 02:34:30,630
to the urgency of his voice the
nation's milk supply is safe

2606
02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:34,350
safe after fragments of the bird
flu virus were found in some

2607
02:34:34,350 --> 02:34:36,510
milk samples stopped stopped to
clip

2608
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:40,830
John C Dvorak: fragments. That's
how do you get how do you find

2609
02:34:40,830 --> 02:34:41,310
fragment?

2610
02:34:41,340 --> 02:34:43,620
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm glad you
asked. According to the FDA,

2611
02:34:43,620 --> 02:34:44,190
remnants of

2612
02:34:44,190 --> 02:34:47,160
Unknown: bird flu were detected
in samples of pasteurized milk.

2613
02:34:47,160 --> 02:34:47,850
What do we need to know?

2614
02:34:47,880 --> 02:34:50,580
Yeah, let me take you through
this headline because for sure

2615
02:34:50,580 --> 02:34:53,160
it's concerning and I'm gonna
get a lot of attention today.

2616
02:34:53,280 --> 02:34:57,960
Particles of the virus detected
in grocery store milk is not

2617
02:34:57,960 --> 02:35:00,750
really a surprise and I want to
tell you why. Remember back in

2618
02:35:00,750 --> 02:35:04,710
the COVID days, with PCR
testing, people were testing

2619
02:35:04,710 --> 02:35:08,430
positive weeks or even months
after being infected. Why?

2620
02:35:08,430 --> 02:35:13,440
Because that PCR detects
particles of the virus, not the

2621
02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:15,360
active live virus. Now

2622
02:35:15,390 --> 02:35:17,820
Adam Curry: you're okay, you're
full of crap. Dr. Jen, America's

2623
02:35:17,820 --> 02:35:22,020
favorite doctor, PCR tests, you
can find anything you want, as

2624
02:35:22,020 --> 02:35:24,810
long as you spin up enough
cycles. That's what's going on

2625
02:35:24,810 --> 02:35:28,500
here. And just I'm just pointing
this out, because we have to be

2626
02:35:28,530 --> 02:35:32,220
careful when they're using PCR,
which was never intended to be a

2627
02:35:32,220 --> 02:35:36,300
test of anything. According to
the guy who invented the test

2628
02:35:36,300 --> 02:35:41,160
and died just before COVID
kicked off. Yeah, this is so

2629
02:35:41,160 --> 02:35:44,880
this is this is why are they
doing this? I don't know. I'm

2630
02:35:44,880 --> 02:35:48,870
sure it has something to do with
the bird flu. I don't like it. I

2631
02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:50,430
don't like them bringing up this

2632
02:35:51,660 --> 02:35:53,940
John C Dvorak: from one of our
producers or producers when our

2633
02:35:53,970 --> 02:35:58,800
famous Duke producer says, Oh, I
think they're gonna get back a

2634
02:35:58,800 --> 02:36:01,380
mail in voting just before the
election. Why

2635
02:36:01,380 --> 02:36:02,940
Adam Curry: not? Well, I

2636
02:36:02,940 --> 02:36:05,250
John C Dvorak: think it's too
late. You can't pull this stunt

2637
02:36:05,250 --> 02:36:07,590
now. It's over.

2638
02:36:08,910 --> 02:36:10,320
Adam Curry: But they may try to

2639
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,110
John C Dvorak: lay their lead
into mail and voting before

2640
02:36:13,350 --> 02:36:16,650
there was a build up it took a
while to propagandize the public

2641
02:36:16,650 --> 02:36:19,230
the public is a little hardened
against this or not gonna go for

2642
02:36:19,230 --> 02:36:19,650
this?

2643
02:36:19,680 --> 02:36:22,890
Adam Curry: No, I hope not. But
you know, look at all those kids

2644
02:36:22,890 --> 02:36:25,620
on the college campus all
wearing masks or bird flu

2645
02:36:27,810 --> 02:36:29,490
John C Dvorak: or maybe it's all
I think they're wearing masks so

2646
02:36:29,490 --> 02:36:32,580
they don't get detected by face
to face recognize. I think they

2647
02:36:32,580 --> 02:36:34,980
Adam Curry: all want to go work
for Goldman Sachs after school.

2648
02:36:36,840 --> 02:36:39,150
John C Dvorak: Don't want us
some list. For

2649
02:36:39,150 --> 02:36:41,070
Adam Curry: sure. They don't
want to be up put on some list.

2650
02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:43,680
Let's take our break John,
because I would like to say in

2651
02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:46,110
the morning to you and thank you
the man who put the sea in the

2652
02:36:46,110 --> 02:36:49,050
climate corps say hello to my
friend on the other end the One

2653
02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:50,430
Only Mr. Jobs

2654
02:36:55,290 --> 02:36:57,240
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
Mr. Adam Creighton Mr. Force

2655
02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:59,970
sees me the GM sent me and said
he needed somebody with

2656
02:36:59,970 --> 02:37:01,740
Bendamustine nights out there
and the monitor

2657
02:37:09,030 --> 02:37:11,310
Adam Curry: couple of them got
away, but I think I got most of

2658
02:37:11,310 --> 02:37:19,170
them. 1485 on the troll room
count we had 1456 the last

2659
02:37:19,170 --> 02:37:24,300
Thursday, so we're up. We're
barely, but a couple of them got

2660
02:37:24,300 --> 02:37:26,940
away. I couldn't count on my
hat, oh, trolls, they're hanging

2661
02:37:26,940 --> 02:37:32,340
out there in the troll room. And
the reason they're there is, is

2662
02:37:32,340 --> 02:37:36,810
because they love being our live
studio audience, our live studio

2663
02:37:36,810 --> 02:37:39,750
audience and it's, it's well
worth it. If anyone does a

2664
02:37:39,750 --> 02:37:43,170
podcast, you should just do it
live, do it live, and then have

2665
02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:47,130
a troll room because it makes
you feel alive. And it gives

2666
02:37:47,130 --> 02:37:50,610
everybody the sense of urgency.
You know, they all think they're

2667
02:37:50,610 --> 02:37:53,220
important is great. You know,
you get a portion of your

2668
02:37:53,220 --> 02:37:55,590
audience. Now where important
we're in the troll room, we're

2669
02:37:55,590 --> 02:37:59,370
doing it, and they actually are
and they get warmed up by Darren

2670
02:37:59,370 --> 02:38:03,300
Oh, the pre show guy is great.
Yes. You're welcome, says

2671
02:38:03,300 --> 02:38:06,780
Matthew, you're right. Thank
you. We appreciate it. You can

2672
02:38:07,050 --> 02:38:10,560
become a troll yourself by going
to troll room.io There's 24

2673
02:38:10,560 --> 02:38:14,130
hours a day, we have our no
agenda live stream going. And

2674
02:38:14,130 --> 02:38:17,940
you can there's always trolls in
there trolling other shows. And

2675
02:38:17,940 --> 02:38:20,640
then obviously, you can use a
modern podcast app, which I

2676
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:23,490
recommend you do. Because if you
see what's happening with net

2677
02:38:23,490 --> 02:38:25,920
neutrality, see what's happening
is it's all going to become

2678
02:38:26,670 --> 02:38:31,500
you're all doomed. Get a podcast
app where your favorite podcast

2679
02:38:31,500 --> 02:38:34,650
will remain on it. It's
backwards compatible with any

2680
02:38:34,650 --> 02:38:37,620
other podcast you use. You can
search you can find him, you can

2681
02:38:37,620 --> 02:38:42,240
import it, podcast apps.com Now
I want to talk about value for

2682
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:46,290
value. But I was actually
surprised to hear the tinfoil

2683
02:38:46,290 --> 02:38:50,730
hat podcast which you introduced
us to you introduced us to the

2684
02:38:50,730 --> 02:38:55,230
tinfoil hat podcast. So this got
Steve on here and Sam Sam

2685
02:38:55,230 --> 02:39:02,880
Tripoli, the comedian who I
called a sidekick and Sam is Sam

2686
02:39:02,880 --> 02:39:05,130
gets around he's been on the
Rogen show a lot you know he's

2687
02:39:05,130 --> 02:39:08,310
stand up he's got a special
coming out. And they discussed

2688
02:39:08,310 --> 02:39:13,170
value for value and accredited
us and and excel would you like

2689
02:39:13,170 --> 02:39:14,640
to hear them explain value.

2690
02:39:14,820 --> 02:39:16,260
John C Dvorak: I'm all in one of

2691
02:39:16,260 --> 02:39:18,090
Unknown: the things about you
know,

2692
02:39:18,120 --> 02:39:22,560
being shadow banned very, very
early on being demonetised on

2693
02:39:22,560 --> 02:39:29,070
YouTube very, very early on, is
it forced me to figure out if I

2694
02:39:29,070 --> 02:39:33,390
want to stick around here? Do
you know then I've got to have a

2695
02:39:33,390 --> 02:39:36,930
model that is going to allow me
to survive the obvious

2696
02:39:36,930 --> 02:39:40,230
deplatforming that I'm going to
face absolutely everywhere else.

2697
02:39:40,500 --> 02:39:43,380
And so that's why I do the value
for value system.

2698
02:39:44,700 --> 02:39:47,040
Adam Curry: So far so good,
right? I mean, he this is his

2699
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:50,640
experience. Of course we
preempted or we started,

2700
02:39:51,090 --> 02:39:52,500
John C Dvorak: we skipped the
middle.

2701
02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:55,560
Unknown: We skipped the plan
crap.

2702
02:39:55,890 --> 02:39:58,320
John C Dvorak: I don't want any
of that stuff. Playing that what

2703
02:39:58,320 --> 02:40:03,510
is that? So Adam curry and
Jhansi Dvorak the guys from no

2704
02:40:03,510 --> 02:40:08,070
agenda. This is something that
they conceptualized when they

2705
02:40:08,070 --> 02:40:14,400
took the show full time. And
it's based on recognition that

2706
02:40:14,430 --> 02:40:19,050
the show that you're watching or
listening to has value. And

2707
02:40:19,080 --> 02:40:22,500
that's going to look different
to absolutely everyone. And

2708
02:40:22,500 --> 02:40:27,030
absolutely everyone is going to
have a different level of value

2709
02:40:27,030 --> 02:40:28,740
that they can contribute. I love

2710
02:40:28,770 --> 02:40:31,080
Adam Curry: that he's really are
a really gets it. I mean, I'm

2711
02:40:31,080 --> 02:40:34,290
loving hearing this this is and
I love the kind of stoner voice

2712
02:40:34,290 --> 02:40:35,250
when he explains it

2713
02:40:35,400 --> 02:40:38,850
John C Dvorak: a man. wish it
did you two guys is this Mr.

2714
02:40:38,850 --> 02:40:39,240
Steve?

2715
02:40:39,270 --> 02:40:41,520
Adam Curry: This is Steve
Sampson the background going

2716
02:40:41,520 --> 02:40:42,600
Yeah, right. Explain it.

2717
02:40:42,630 --> 02:40:45,090
John C Dvorak: So what are the
things that you really need to

2718
02:40:45,090 --> 02:40:49,590
make a show run? You need time?
You need talent, and you need

2719
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:54,750
treasure? Okay, so that's the
value for value system. There's

2720
02:40:54,750 --> 02:40:58,830
some things that we need a hand
with Eclipse promotion, because

2721
02:40:58,830 --> 02:41:04,020
I hate it. You know, this
requires time, okay, well, if

2722
02:41:04,020 --> 02:41:06,690
you have some time, and you can
do that, please do that. Share

2723
02:41:06,690 --> 02:41:08,760
the show, throw a clip,
whatever, we've got a clip

2724
02:41:08,760 --> 02:41:11,970
channel, send it to us, we'll
put it on talent. That's where

2725
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:16,770
making things overlaps to being
able to book guess, being able

2726
02:41:16,770 --> 02:41:20,130
to go out and have conversations
that allow for other people to

2727
02:41:20,310 --> 02:41:23,700
watch the show and stuff like
that. Do you make music, we'd

2728
02:41:23,700 --> 02:41:27,120
like to play it that kind of
thing. Talent, treasure, that's

2729
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:31,830
pretty obvious. We have bills
that we have to pay kids growing

2730
02:41:31,830 --> 02:41:36,930
and like to eat, all that kind
of stuff. So if you don't have a

2731
02:41:36,930 --> 02:41:40,890
lot of time, if there's things
in the digital space that you're

2732
02:41:40,890 --> 02:41:43,860
not great at, but you do have
some coin you're sitting on

2733
02:41:44,040 --> 02:41:49,140
great, you know, and at whatever
level of ability or

2734
02:41:49,140 --> 02:41:52,980
comfortability you have
participate, because the only

2735
02:41:52,980 --> 02:41:57,750
way the show happens is that
way. And what that ultimately

2736
02:41:57,750 --> 02:42:01,680
means is I never worked for an
advertiser, I never worked for a

2737
02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:08,580
sponsor. I am 100% self
sufficient. And if necessary,

2738
02:42:08,730 --> 02:42:14,880
the show can go out in freakin
you know, USB drives and direct

2739
02:42:14,880 --> 02:42:21,030
email and stuff like that. I
love it, but doesn't come to

2740
02:42:21,030 --> 02:42:21,840
that. No, we

2741
02:42:21,840 --> 02:42:24,780
Adam Curry: hope that doesn't
come to that. But well done.

2742
02:42:24,780 --> 02:42:27,990
Boys Over there. tin foil hat.
Perfect explanation.

2743
02:42:28,380 --> 02:42:31,380
John C Dvorak: That is that's as
good as that is anyone could do.

2744
02:42:31,500 --> 02:42:36,030
That's that's hits all the
points it does. Makes everything

2745
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:39,720
clear. And it's sincere. That's
the key. Yes.

2746
02:42:39,720 --> 02:42:42,570
Adam Curry: And after 17 years,
it's good to see someone else

2747
02:42:42,570 --> 02:42:43,410
picking up on it.

2748
02:42:45,180 --> 02:42:48,420
John C Dvorak: It's been a weird
sincerity that you said from the

2749
02:42:48,420 --> 02:42:52,680
beginning. I have at least that
you need sincerity. You're not

2750
02:42:53,310 --> 02:42:55,680
asking for money. insincerely
No,

2751
02:42:55,680 --> 02:42:58,830
Adam Curry: we're not. No, no,
but it's the real deal. I mean,

2752
02:42:58,830 --> 02:43:03,450
these you you want your show
provide value back time, talent,

2753
02:43:03,450 --> 02:43:11,790
treasure, and since he was 2424
years old, void Zero has been

2754
02:43:11,790 --> 02:43:17,370
providing his time and his
talent, his resources to the

2755
02:43:17,370 --> 02:43:21,570
show and today he turns 40 years
old 16 years.

2756
02:43:22,860 --> 02:43:24,960
John C Dvorak: He has a real
business to Dan and we

2757
02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:27,780
Adam Curry: helped him start his
own business. That's right. And

2758
02:43:27,780 --> 02:43:30,210
we're very very proud of him and
he's on the birthday list but

2759
02:43:30,210 --> 02:43:33,630
first let us think some total
yes of course it's his birthday.

2760
02:43:33,660 --> 02:43:36,570
That's why he's on the list. But
he gets a special mention the

2761
02:43:36,570 --> 02:43:40,230
void zero man. Just get pawn
them off like I is Mark

2762
02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:45,210
birthday. Void zero, that guy.
But first, we need to thank one

2763
02:43:45,210 --> 02:43:47,610
of our talented artists for
bringing us the artwork for

2764
02:43:47,610 --> 02:43:51,810
episode 1653. We titled that
twigs, which is a new product,

2765
02:43:52,140 --> 02:43:56,040
formerly known as vines. That
was a great bid by the way that

2766
02:43:56,070 --> 02:43:59,070
a lot of people thought that was
very funny. It was a classic.

2767
02:43:59,100 --> 02:44:04,080
Well, the twigs. Yeah, here's a
classic Johnson moment. And Dame

2768
02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:10,320
Kenny Ben comes in again, with
with Uncle Joe's or Joe Biden's

2769
02:44:10,980 --> 02:44:14,280
uncle Finnegan with his legs
sticking out of the cannibal

2770
02:44:14,280 --> 02:44:20,220
pot. Not everybody got it right
away. But if you know you know,

2771
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:25,410
and it was well done, and you
actually remarked that between

2772
02:44:25,560 --> 02:44:30,990
Dame Kenny Ben and Anton to
kneel, the N and of course

2773
02:44:30,990 --> 02:44:35,610
Martin JJ and others, that the
Dutch artists are really holding

2774
02:44:35,610 --> 02:44:40,500
true to their legacy of being
great artists. I mean, these

2775
02:44:40,620 --> 02:44:43,920
these are the modern Van Gogh
Rembrandt's Vermeer's I mean

2776
02:44:43,920 --> 02:44:45,300
these are well

2777
02:44:45,300 --> 02:44:47,670
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. But

2778
02:44:48,510 --> 02:44:50,340
Adam Curry: what do you mean
this is nitewhite Yeah,

2779
02:44:50,340 --> 02:44:53,610
John C Dvorak: great. Yeah,
Queen. Girl hit those people you

2780
02:44:53,610 --> 02:44:58,530
just mentioned but and there is
a tradition in in Holland of

2781
02:44:58,530 --> 02:45:05,340
great artists. By doing cartoony
show art for the no agenda show.

2782
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:09,630
It kind of demeans, Vermeer? I
say a bit

2783
02:45:11,820 --> 02:45:15,300
Adam Curry: What do you mean
man? What do you mean but it's

2784
02:45:15,300 --> 02:45:17,190
John C Dvorak: but it's
interesting that there is this

2785
02:45:17,460 --> 02:45:21,150
it's it's in the blood or
something that allows this the

2786
02:45:21,420 --> 02:45:25,680
weirdness especially on I mean,
we're not at Dutch show no, no

2787
02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:30,780
we're not. And we do have three
at least three and maybe more.

2788
02:45:31,650 --> 02:45:36,720
That's Dutch. Does that
contribute winning art for yours

2789
02:45:36,720 --> 02:45:37,350
instantly

2790
02:45:37,380 --> 02:45:40,590
Adam Curry: for years and years?
Yeah,

2791
02:45:40,680 --> 02:45:42,300
John C Dvorak: and then we have
another one that's very

2792
02:45:42,330 --> 02:45:46,230
competitive. Who is Italian is
scatter a minor manga Yeah, we

2793
02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:49,230
have it's like this especially
that where's our Americans are

2794
02:45:49,230 --> 02:45:51,510
at the center of my sadena come
up the ball.

2795
02:45:51,540 --> 02:45:54,210
Adam Curry: We've got the
Michelangelo of Albemarle

2796
02:45:54,210 --> 02:45:55,020
Scaramanga. We

2797
02:45:55,020 --> 02:45:56,910
John C Dvorak: do have we do
have the if you look at the

2798
02:45:56,910 --> 02:46:02,430
leaderboard, yeah, who is number
one? Nick Duran Oh, yeah.

2799
02:46:02,670 --> 02:46:07,020
Adam Curry: New Yorker. He used
to be really good. We don't know

2800
02:46:07,020 --> 02:46:07,620
what happened.

2801
02:46:08,040 --> 02:46:10,620
John C Dvorak: No, he doesn't do
any he doesn't. He doesn't. Yes,

2802
02:46:10,620 --> 02:46:12,780
once he does his own podcast,
he's in a sewer.

2803
02:46:14,520 --> 02:46:16,650
Adam Curry: We want to thank all
the artists who contributed we

2804
02:46:16,650 --> 02:46:22,650
love being able to choose
Scaramanga tried something with

2805
02:46:23,460 --> 02:46:29,310
the witch's Dame Kenny, Ben also
threw in ABC no agenda abc.com

2806
02:46:29,310 --> 02:46:34,110
Coloring Book. Couple of people
tried some twigs stuff. We kind

2807
02:46:34,110 --> 02:46:38,610
of liked Kenny Ben's Title Nine.
Were kicking the girl in the

2808
02:46:38,610 --> 02:46:41,910
crotch, but actually the one we
liked, but we knew we could not

2809
02:46:41,910 --> 02:46:47,670
do because it was just too much.
Was Scarah mangas lugs luxury

2810
02:46:47,670 --> 02:46:50,460
seaside jus mediums. Oh,

2811
02:46:50,460 --> 02:46:51,450
John C Dvorak: yeah, that wasn't
gonna

2812
02:46:52,500 --> 02:46:55,650
Adam Curry: happen. Beautiful
piece got everything in there

2813
02:46:55,650 --> 02:47:01,050
virtual tours on twigs. 33
units. Welcome to Gaza. I mean,

2814
02:47:01,830 --> 02:47:04,320
John C Dvorak: it was a genuine,
it was a gem.

2815
02:47:07,020 --> 02:47:10,320
Adam Curry: Man, and then we had
comics, your blogger did some AI

2816
02:47:10,320 --> 02:47:14,640
which is kind of cute little kid
eaten sugar. But the AI stuff. I

2817
02:47:14,640 --> 02:47:17,640
mean, it's like, you know,
people like, Oh, we've got a

2818
02:47:17,640 --> 02:47:21,840
song for the we got a new tune
for our podcast. It's from Ai.

2819
02:47:21,870 --> 02:47:26,460
I'm like, Yeah, well, that's
obvious. Because it sucks. That

2820
02:47:26,460 --> 02:47:31,020
everyone is like doing AI stuff.
This you're gonna be bland man.

2821
02:47:31,440 --> 02:47:36,690
You need the human soul in
there. And out there now. And

2822
02:47:36,690 --> 02:47:41,400
now. The face bag is gonna get
into it. Now. I think we're I

2823
02:47:41,400 --> 02:47:44,520
think you're right. I think
we've, this is the the pivot,

2824
02:47:44,850 --> 02:47:50,250
the pivot of AI. There's nothing
left, nothing left. It's no

2825
02:47:50,250 --> 02:47:53,910
good. It's not working. And it's
expensive. And they're not

2826
02:47:53,910 --> 02:47:56,520
saying anything about the amount
of energy it cost to run these

2827
02:47:56,520 --> 02:47:57,660
things. And there's no

2828
02:47:57,660 --> 02:47:59,610
John C Dvorak: that's the key.
And there's no model she went to

2829
02:47:59,610 --> 02:48:05,220
in the era of you know, global
warming, the global emergency

2830
02:48:05,250 --> 02:48:08,280
global warming emergency or
whatever it is that you play the

2831
02:48:08,280 --> 02:48:08,610
clip.

2832
02:48:08,970 --> 02:48:12,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Climate
emergency. Climate emergency.

2833
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:18,600
Yeah. And I can tell you right
now, people doing a Trump with

2834
02:48:18,600 --> 02:48:22,830
farts, you're not going to be
chosen. So what are you

2835
02:48:22,830 --> 02:48:26,820
thinking? Don't you know us by
now? Don't you know us by now.

2836
02:48:27,750 --> 02:48:30,510
Thank you very much, David.
Kenny. Ben, you are fantastic.

2837
02:48:31,020 --> 02:48:34,710
All the artists are. And thank
you to Dred Scott, who uses

2838
02:48:34,710 --> 02:48:37,890
these all different pieces of
hard work in our chapters. You

2839
02:48:37,890 --> 02:48:40,200
need a modern podcast app for
that, but you probably have one

2840
02:48:40,200 --> 02:48:42,420
by now. If not, what are you
doing? You're doing it wrong.

2841
02:48:43,350 --> 02:48:47,010
And thank you again, no agenda,
art generated.com. Anybody it's

2842
02:48:47,010 --> 02:48:50,250
open for all anybody can
participate. And anybody,

2843
02:48:50,250 --> 02:48:52,860
everybody makes just as much
chance and it doesn't have to be

2844
02:48:52,860 --> 02:48:56,100
some slick piece. It's amazing
sometimes just the creativeness

2845
02:48:56,100 --> 02:49:00,060
that does it for us. So you
heard it there from the tinfoil

2846
02:49:00,060 --> 02:49:03,390
hat boys time, talent, we got
that covered and treasure. We go

2847
02:49:03,390 --> 02:49:05,460
to the treasure portion as we
thank our executive and

2848
02:49:05,460 --> 02:49:10,200
Associate Executive producers
for episode 1654 $2 above as an

2849
02:49:10,200 --> 02:49:12,840
associate that's a real title,
you get to keep it forever, you

2850
02:49:12,840 --> 02:49:16,320
get to open up an account on
imdb.com and we read your notes.

2851
02:49:16,680 --> 02:49:20,790
And 300 above is the executive
producer and you get real kudos

2852
02:49:20,790 --> 02:49:24,360
for that. And you get to walk
around town to nominee executive

2853
02:49:24,360 --> 02:49:27,660
producer. And Steven Hutto gets
to do that he's from St.

2854
02:49:27,660 --> 02:49:32,850
Petersburg, Florida. $384.50.
And I see no note from him.

2855
02:49:33,840 --> 02:49:34,230
Yeah, I

2856
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:38,670
John C Dvorak: went back and
looked and he he does donate

2857
02:49:38,670 --> 02:49:43,080
every so often. He does I
recognize but he does not

2858
02:49:43,080 --> 02:49:47,730
necessarily send in a note. And
I my spreadsheet by the way is

2859
02:49:47,790 --> 02:49:51,600
screwed out wonky and I can't
move anything. May have to

2860
02:49:51,600 --> 02:49:52,290
reload.

2861
02:49:54,450 --> 02:49:56,460
Adam Curry: Reload. And

2862
02:49:56,460 --> 02:49:58,710
John C Dvorak: then it can't it
doesn't it's just not working by

2863
02:49:58,710 --> 02:50:05,250
there. pop back into norm I'm
Alan weird yeah he last time he

2864
02:50:05,250 --> 02:50:07,860
wrote a note in which was a
foreigner dollar donation. It

2865
02:50:07,860 --> 02:50:13,080
was just a hi, I got a 333 and
my car thing I was in June of

2866
02:50:13,080 --> 02:50:17,790
last year, so I just assumed he
didn't write us a note. So he

2867
02:50:17,790 --> 02:50:28,620
gets a double up karma. It sure
does. You've got karma brings up

2868
02:50:28,620 --> 02:50:33,510
Dixon Craig and St. Albert,
Alberta, Canada. 33333 ATM from

2869
02:50:33,510 --> 02:50:37,530
Dixon up wind from Chris and the
Sherwood Park. Alberta

2870
02:50:37,530 --> 02:50:38,610
refineries.

2871
02:50:38,760 --> 02:50:39,660
Adam Curry: Nice okay. Yeah,

2872
02:50:39,690 --> 02:50:41,250
John C Dvorak: like the EM. Mark

2873
02:50:42,360 --> 02:50:45,060
Adam Curry: could char ski. I
would think it is Aurora,

2874
02:50:45,060 --> 02:50:48,870
Colorado, our favorite number
three, three 3.33 It's the magic

2875
02:50:48,870 --> 02:50:52,530
numbers. And I've been listening
he says since Adams wrote second

2876
02:50:52,530 --> 02:50:58,650
Rogan appearance rugged donation
first time donation. De deuced.

2877
02:50:58,890 --> 02:51:01,740
Got yourself the douche in
there. I was going to ask for a

2878
02:51:01,740 --> 02:51:06,660
child a sequence of jingles but
thought better of it. Good man.

2879
02:51:06,690 --> 02:51:10,470
Can I get a TPP jobs karma from
my smokin hot fiance and our two

2880
02:51:10,470 --> 02:51:14,160
d two karma Thanks. Well, of
course she can. Jobs, jobs,

2881
02:51:14,160 --> 02:51:20,910
jobs. Jobs karma.

2882
02:51:22,920 --> 02:51:26,790
John C Dvorak: James Boyle in
Champaign, Illinois. 33333. And

2883
02:51:26,790 --> 02:51:29,730
all he says is value for value.
And that's what he thinks the

2884
02:51:29,730 --> 02:51:31,560
show is worth. And I we
appreciate him.

2885
02:51:31,650 --> 02:51:33,810
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you very
much. Then we have something in

2886
02:51:33,810 --> 02:51:37,950
blue here, which I shall open up
that means we have a note. This

2887
02:51:37,950 --> 02:51:44,310
is from surfer. And surfer
donates $300 And this Oh, I

2888
02:51:44,310 --> 02:51:46,740
think he's going to change the
title today. Let's see what he

2889
02:51:46,740 --> 02:51:52,950
has to say. Note here surfer
it's loading on my computer for

2890
02:51:52,950 --> 02:51:56,490
some reason. Why is this taking
so long? It's just a PDF. What's

2891
02:51:56,490 --> 02:52:01,290
going here we go. ITM John.
Adam. Switcheroo. Please credit

2892
02:52:01,290 --> 02:52:04,800
Neal Jones clip custodian with
this executive producer ship?

2893
02:52:05,310 --> 02:52:10,950
Whoa, hold on a second. Let me
put that in clip. Custodian.

2894
02:52:10,980 --> 02:52:15,570
Neal Jones. Wow. This is a very
nice, very nice gesture. Let's

2895
02:52:15,570 --> 02:52:19,950
find out if he has any more to
say. I'm suspending. Oh, this is

2896
02:52:19,950 --> 02:52:23,310
the switcheroo guy. I'm
suspending switcheroo donations

2897
02:52:23,310 --> 02:52:27,810
from Mr. Dana Brunetti governor
of Eldorado. Sadly, Mr. Dana has

2898
02:52:27,810 --> 02:52:32,580
hardened his heart so that John
may never get a bid part, hoping

2899
02:52:32,610 --> 02:52:36,780
someday he might relent and at
least let John have a free image

2900
02:52:36,780 --> 02:52:38,190
and likeness scan.

2901
02:52:40,170 --> 02:52:42,360
John C Dvorak: And go for that.
Yeah, yeah.

2902
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:47,580
Adam Curry: He was really mad at
me, though, Dana. Oh, yeah, you

2903
02:52:47,580 --> 02:52:49,050
John C Dvorak: got to do a beef
guy. He's

2904
02:52:49,050 --> 02:52:53,670
Adam Curry: like, You're wrong.
Test. The cybertruck is great.

2905
02:52:53,850 --> 02:52:57,060
It's awesome. You fall and you
fall in for the M five M

2906
02:52:57,060 --> 02:52:59,730
tiktoks. Say, say up?

2907
02:53:00,600 --> 02:53:03,060
John C Dvorak: So quite his
voice. But yeah, yeah. And I

2908
02:53:03,060 --> 02:53:06,300
said no, he's no, he's a huge
Tesla fan. I don't know why he

2909
02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:08,100
lives out in the middle of
nowhere. But he is

2910
02:53:08,130 --> 02:53:10,980
Adam Curry: yeah, when the cyber
truck when the apocalypse comes,

2911
02:53:10,980 --> 02:53:14,370
he's going to be dead. Because
the cyber truck won't walk won't

2912
02:53:14,370 --> 02:53:14,880
work. Although

2913
02:53:15,930 --> 02:53:17,910
John C Dvorak: he's got to write
out he's got about I think he

2914
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:20,850
has like three or four testers.
The way you do it, is you hook

2915
02:53:20,850 --> 02:53:25,320
them all together. And you have
one test two or three testers.

2916
02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:29,310
And you keep driving to 70,000
psi and then the Tesla drops

2917
02:53:29,310 --> 02:53:31,590
down and there's nothing you can
do about you jump into next

2918
02:53:31,590 --> 02:53:35,220
Tesla and you drive some more
until it drops dead and then you

2919
02:53:35,220 --> 02:53:37,980
have another Tesla you jump into
that you can get across the

2920
02:53:37,980 --> 02:53:40,890
country that way. Any smart debt

2921
02:53:40,890 --> 02:53:44,070
Adam Curry: guy anyways, he says
I became a bonafide black bear

2922
02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:47,070
and after Adams teeth fell out
and he forgot to pronounce the

2923
02:53:47,070 --> 02:53:52,410
cake title changes. Wow. Black
Baron is a rare title, if not

2924
02:53:52,410 --> 02:53:55,260
unique, seems pretty cool. I'm
going to stick with this title.

2925
02:53:55,260 --> 02:53:57,390
While I continue to donate. We

2926
02:53:57,390 --> 02:53:59,790
John C Dvorak: have never
approved the official appearance

2927
02:53:59,790 --> 02:54:02,130
committee has never approved
this title.

2928
02:54:03,540 --> 02:54:05,010
Adam Curry: Are you not
approving it now?

2929
02:54:05,550 --> 02:54:07,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm just
not approved. I mean, if you

2930
02:54:07,830 --> 02:54:09,840
want to call yourself black
bear, and that's fine. But

2931
02:54:09,840 --> 02:54:13,230
that's it's not official.
There's only black knights.

2932
02:54:13,440 --> 02:54:16,410
Adam Curry: Well, okay. Well,
I'm just I'm just looking at the

2933
02:54:16,440 --> 02:54:22,770
official show prep information.
And you're right, he's not on

2934
02:54:22,770 --> 02:54:25,830
there. Okay, so he can't say
that he can't call himself that.

2935
02:54:26,610 --> 02:54:30,480
He can it's just not official
music. He's a guy donating and

2936
02:54:30,480 --> 02:54:32,760
John C Dvorak: he thinks that
you could just cut you could put

2937
02:54:32,760 --> 02:54:34,830
him on the list. I'm not doing

2938
02:54:34,830 --> 02:54:36,630
Adam Curry: anything I'm not I
don't want to get my head

2939
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:38,340
chopped off by the peerage
committee.

2940
02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:41,460
John C Dvorak: Parish committee
does not have that power.

2941
02:54:43,170 --> 02:54:44,940
Adam Curry: Hey, he says I'm
gonna stick with this title

2942
02:54:44,940 --> 02:54:47,460
while I continue to donate good
you stick with Okay,

2943
02:54:47,460 --> 02:54:49,320
John C Dvorak: well, you gotta
stick with the title you want

2944
02:54:49,470 --> 02:54:52,200
this year a baron. And he
actually is good. What's going

2945
02:54:52,200 --> 02:54:56,340
to be a black URL? A black vibe
count is going to go on and up

2946
02:54:56,340 --> 02:54:57,240
and up and up and be

2947
02:54:59,130 --> 02:55:01,530
Adam Curry: he says this This
leaves me free to bestow

2948
02:55:01,530 --> 02:55:04,980
Switcheroos on worthy producers
he says I'm looking at you

2949
02:55:04,980 --> 02:55:12,180
Ashlynn speed about that good
guy man. He says I requested you

2950
02:55:12,180 --> 02:55:15,180
good guy yeah karma for all
producers lovers lead surfer

2951
02:55:15,240 --> 02:55:23,130
black Baron of the i Four
corridor you've got karma

2952
02:55:26,490 --> 02:55:30,720
John C Dvorak: the fibromyalgia
recovery foundation in Monument

2953
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:37,770
Colorado has donated $255.44
Interesting three for for my son

2954
02:55:37,800 --> 02:55:42,720
Eli who turned 33 on Tax Day
April 15 20 for a switcheroo for

2955
02:55:42,720 --> 02:55:50,040
my little bro Monty who turns 49
on 26th of April and he hit me

2956
02:55:50,040 --> 02:55:55,650
in the mouth last summer. Linda
Lou packin Thank you loves. Oh,

2957
02:55:56,190 --> 02:55:59,490
Louise a lot of mysterious notes
in there but I guess Monty gets

2958
02:55:59,490 --> 02:56:00,690
that donation. Yep.

2959
02:56:00,690 --> 02:56:03,810
Adam Curry: Montes switcharoo.
Nathan cook Seven Hills, New

2960
02:56:03,810 --> 02:56:07,560
South Wales, Australia. There he
is. There's one who made it

2961
02:56:07,560 --> 02:56:13,350
through. Made it through the SEC
only one safety net and he

2962
02:56:13,350 --> 02:56:17,550
promotes the Sydney meetup at
the fiddler pub rouse Hill this

2963
02:56:17,550 --> 02:56:21,420
Saturday the 27th bring the
family contact at cook at no

2964
02:56:21,420 --> 02:56:24,900
authority dot social or see
details at no agenda meetups.com

2965
02:56:25,140 --> 02:56:28,020
I've been doing overtime to
justify this donation to the

2966
02:56:28,020 --> 02:56:31,650
Mises Time Well Spent he says
Thanks Thank you. Thanks Nathan.

2967
02:56:31,650 --> 02:56:34,110
Thanks for keeping it alive down
under we do love all the

2968
02:56:34,110 --> 02:56:37,020
producers who are still hanging
in there and

2969
02:56:37,110 --> 02:56:39,330
John C Dvorak: whenever we can
ensure that five eyes will be

2970
02:56:39,330 --> 02:56:44,340
represented yeah spot the spook
and let us know Matthew Saladino

2971
02:56:44,340 --> 02:56:49,650
in Katy Texas to 1060 ITM no
note no jingles? No karma.

2972
02:56:49,680 --> 02:56:52,890
Perfect. All right. And now I
want to go on with this one at

2973
02:56:52,890 --> 02:56:56,820
the end, which is Linda Lou pack
in Lakewood, Colorado. $200 jobs

2974
02:56:56,820 --> 02:56:59,820
karma for a competitive edge Go
to Image makers inc.com For all

2975
02:56:59,820 --> 02:57:03,030
your executive resume and job
search needs. So we have a

2976
02:57:03,030 --> 02:57:06,840
person on this list that used
her services, I guess and liked

2977
02:57:06,840 --> 02:57:10,440
it. Yes, image makers think with
a K or just find Linda LAPACK

2978
02:57:10,440 --> 02:57:13,590
and Duchess of jobs and writer
of resumes on the producer list

2979
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:14,370
jobs,

2980
02:57:14,520 --> 02:57:18,780
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

2981
02:57:21,210 --> 02:57:25,020
Adam Curry: Oh, that's karma
didn't fire there it is. You've

2982
02:57:25,020 --> 02:57:30,480
got karma. All right. That is
our executive on Associate

2983
02:57:30,480 --> 02:57:35,790
Executive Producer for episode
16. Yes, 1654. Wow, we are

2984
02:57:35,790 --> 02:57:41,100
moving towards the 17 104 more
years pause. We need a new shot.

2985
02:57:41,100 --> 02:57:43,890
Do you have that clip the dice.
You had the clip? Let's

2986
02:57:43,980 --> 02:57:45,510
John C Dvorak: play it at home.
Where

2987
02:57:45,510 --> 02:57:47,670
Adam Curry: is it? Oh, yeah,
here it is Biden. I

2988
02:57:47,670 --> 02:57:50,340
Unknown: see in America where we
defend democracy, not diminish

2989
02:57:50,340 --> 02:57:55,950
it. I see an American we protect
freedoms, not take them away. I

2990
02:57:55,950 --> 02:57:59,820
see an economy that grows in
Milan, the bottom up where the

2991
02:57:59,820 --> 02:58:03,840
wealthy pay their fair share. So
we can have childcare paid leave

2992
02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:06,690
and so much more and still
reduce the federal deficit and

2993
02:58:06,690 --> 02:58:11,460
increase economic growth and
free Viagra. Imagine what we can

2994
02:58:11,460 --> 02:58:16,530
do next. Four more years. Paul?

2995
02:58:20,850 --> 02:58:23,580
Adam Curry: Four more years
pause he reads on the Pella for

2996
02:58:23,580 --> 02:58:27,300
teleprompter. What a dope, you
know, we call that in Dutch and

2997
02:58:27,300 --> 02:58:33,900
own away and own. Luna? Yeah. Oh
en goon. He meant an own.

2998
02:58:35,220 --> 02:58:37,440
John C Dvorak: He's an own goon.
Yeah.

2999
02:58:38,040 --> 02:58:40,560
Adam Curry: Perfect
pronunciation. Ooh, thing. Our

3000
02:58:40,560 --> 02:58:45,210
president is an goon. Exactly.
Thank you to these execs and

3001
02:58:45,210 --> 02:58:47,550
Associate Executive producers.
Of course, these titles are

3002
02:58:47,550 --> 02:58:51,420
real, you can use them anywhere.
Credits are recognized. You can

3003
02:58:51,420 --> 02:58:54,060
put them on your LinkedIn and
your social media profile. Or of

3004
02:58:54,060 --> 02:58:56,430
course you can open up an IMDB
account if you don't have one

3005
02:58:56,430 --> 02:58:59,010
already. And walk around town
with business cards. I'm an

3006
02:58:59,010 --> 02:59:01,770
executive or Associate Executive
Producer of the no agenda show.

3007
02:59:01,950 --> 02:59:06,720
Yeah, I produced episode 1654.
Check it out sometime. We have a

3008
02:59:06,720 --> 02:59:11,550
lot of people to thank. We don't
think anybody under the 50s for

3009
02:59:11,550 --> 02:59:15,240
reasons of Anna, not anonymity,
and we especially want to thank

3010
02:59:15,240 --> 02:59:18,390
people who came in with whatever
value they could under that 50

3011
02:59:18,390 --> 02:59:21,480
amount. And certainly those
aren't sustaining donations.

3012
02:59:21,630 --> 02:59:24,180
They help a lot. John is going
to take us through to the 50s

3013
02:59:24,180 --> 02:59:25,680
now. Yeah,

3014
02:59:25,920 --> 02:59:31,860
John C Dvorak: starting with Ben
Greece in grace may be in

3015
02:59:31,860 --> 02:59:37,260
Overland Park, Kansas at
$111.11. Colin Witten in gibbet

3016
02:59:37,260 --> 02:59:43,860
Sony at Pennsylvania. 105 35.
And this is a birthday donation

3017
02:59:44,190 --> 02:59:52,500
for him. David Carolina's I
think a relative at our re our

3018
02:59:52,500 --> 02:59:59,970
Linus probably a Linus in
Escondido. 100. He said he does

3019
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:02,940
Make a note here. Is it bad if I
say You guys rock?

3020
03:00:04,080 --> 03:00:05,430
Adam Curry: Rock baby? We're

3021
03:00:06,930 --> 03:00:11,400
John C Dvorak: a man we rock
rock we rock hard rock very hard

3022
03:00:11,670 --> 03:00:15,480
in field 100 Kevin McLaughlin
comes in from Concord, North

3023
03:00:15,480 --> 03:00:18,570
Carolina. He is the Archduke of
Luna, lover of American boobs

3024
03:00:18,570 --> 03:00:22,710
and he comes in with a boob
donation of 808. Eric Mackey and

3025
03:00:22,710 --> 03:00:30,720
Aki in Blairsville, Georgia 808
Jason maror in Vancouver,

3026
03:00:30,720 --> 03:00:39,150
Washington 808 Anonymous 7777
And he's a birthday de douching

3027
03:00:39,150 --> 03:00:39,240
and

3028
03:00:41,310 --> 03:00:43,170
Unknown: you've been de deuced

3029
03:00:47,580 --> 03:00:49,080
John C Dvorak: kind of an
interesting note I'm a teacher

3030
03:00:49,080 --> 03:00:51,750
and parent is small northern
Minnesota communities easy to

3031
03:00:51,750 --> 03:00:55,170
believe that the woke agenda
will stay in the city's but it's

3032
03:00:55,170 --> 03:01:00,300
strange is sneaking in its way
in we've kept a litter boxes out

3033
03:01:00,300 --> 03:01:05,250
dough so far. Now. This is
pretty much what you said about

3034
03:01:05,610 --> 03:01:09,810
Fredericksburg go Yeah, so these
these suburbs are are being

3035
03:01:09,810 --> 03:01:10,290
attacked.

3036
03:01:10,320 --> 03:01:12,810
Adam Curry: We're not really
covered. Yeah. Okay.

3037
03:01:14,460 --> 03:01:20,040
John C Dvorak: Technically your
rural or rural Brian Kaufman in

3038
03:01:20,040 --> 03:01:25,410
Scottsdale, Arizona 7575 Matthew
L. wart in Weatherford, Texas.

3039
03:01:25,410 --> 03:01:33,720
606. David spring and Anna
Texas. 606. Sir Polly Bravo in

3040
03:01:33,720 --> 03:01:41,730
Fort Collins, Colorado. 5650 67
or 5567. Brendan. Brendan

3041
03:01:41,760 --> 03:01:46,170
flammer. in Bismarck. North
Dakota has got a birthday for

3042
03:01:46,170 --> 03:01:57,480
Zoey 5432 Rad do min s Gu in
Romania. All right. Interesting.

3043
03:01:57,480 --> 03:02:02,460
Nice because I Romanian
listener. Mera Enescu as a very

3044
03:02:02,460 --> 03:02:07,920
Romanian name it's easy 377
Pitesti Sir Paul in Twickenham

3045
03:02:08,190 --> 03:02:15,780
UK to 272 tired of listening to
John complaining about no one

3046
03:02:15,780 --> 03:02:20,940
donating it's working? Oh my
God, his donation finally, Sir

3047
03:02:20,940 --> 03:02:28,800
Paul Blair Williams in Orange
Beach. Alabama. 3272. H Ringle.

3048
03:02:28,800 --> 03:02:36,120
Berg in drunken Paul in the
Netherlands? Yes. Yeah. 52 657.

3049
03:02:38,880 --> 03:02:43,080
So it's easy to find excuse not
to donate. He says Baron Henry

3050
03:02:43,080 --> 03:02:46,410
Rancho Palos Verdes days. That D
240. Hold

3051
03:02:46,410 --> 03:02:48,450
Adam Curry: on. He says
differently. He says it's always

3052
03:02:48,450 --> 03:02:51,630
easy to find an excuse not to
donate especially when you're

3053
03:02:51,630 --> 03:02:55,530
government meaning ours blows up
our pipeline. Man don't hold

3054
03:02:55,530 --> 03:02:56,610
that against us.

3055
03:02:57,180 --> 03:03:00,630
John C Dvorak: Wasn't it wasn't
a show show didn't do that. We

3056
03:03:00,630 --> 03:03:03,150
told you it didn't leave Norway
more than us there were there

3057
03:03:03,150 --> 03:03:04,680
was it took really

3058
03:03:04,680 --> 03:03:06,390
Adam Curry: man but blame those
guys.

3059
03:03:08,010 --> 03:03:10,950
John C Dvorak: For is Martin our
website Baron Henry in Rancho

3060
03:03:10,980 --> 03:03:16,320
Palos Verdes. I said 5242 forest
Martin comes in at 5005 along

3061
03:03:16,320 --> 03:03:20,730
with Andrew Benz in Imperial
Missouri, video five into the

3062
03:03:20,730 --> 03:03:23,850
following people. It's a very
short list that I should mention

3063
03:03:24,870 --> 03:03:29,010
for birth Thursday. These are
the $50 donors name and location

3064
03:03:29,010 --> 03:03:34,350
starting with Michael Cycra. Say
Cora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.

3065
03:03:34,470 --> 03:03:37,320
Ah, there's our buddies in
Redondo Beach, California,

3066
03:03:37,320 --> 03:03:40,620
gaucho woodworking. Check them
out. You can look it up, just

3067
03:03:40,620 --> 03:03:46,650
Google them. James Farrell in
Haverhill, Massachusetts. Cara

3068
03:03:46,710 --> 03:03:51,360
powerville and Sandra Phil.
Cara, it would be Kara parallel

3069
03:03:51,810 --> 03:03:57,090
in Sandra Phil Alexa Delgado in
Aptos, California Brian Hamel in

3070
03:03:57,090 --> 03:04:02,160
Wimberley, Texas. Charles Boyd
in San Marcos Texas. Samuel

3071
03:04:02,520 --> 03:04:08,220
Kenner de in North Riverside,
Illinois, Brett Denton in Boise,

3072
03:04:08,220 --> 03:04:12,630
Idaho, Amy Grohl in Burien.
Washington right by the airport,

3073
03:04:13,080 --> 03:04:16,740
John Walter in Wenatchee,
Washington and we get the

3074
03:04:16,740 --> 03:04:22,290
Washingtonians today and last
but not least, foul line farm in

3075
03:04:22,290 --> 03:04:26,580
Columbus, Georgia, go over there
and get some vegetables. This

3076
03:04:26,610 --> 03:04:33,990
group of well wishers and
supporters for show 5016 54

3077
03:04:34,020 --> 03:04:35,730
That's right and thank them all.
And

3078
03:04:35,730 --> 03:04:37,860
Adam Curry: once again thank you
to our executive and Associate

3079
03:04:37,860 --> 03:04:42,120
Executive producers came in big
for us on 1654

3080
03:04:42,480 --> 03:04:46,890
Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out we get people in the

3081
03:04:46,890 --> 03:04:47,190
mouth

3082
03:04:59,010 --> 03:05:02,010
Adam Curry: become a producer Oh
agenda donations.com

3083
03:05:08,639 --> 03:05:12,749
And we congratulate Eli who
turned 33 on April 15 Anonymous

3084
03:05:12,749 --> 03:05:17,579
turns 33 Or turn 33 Yesterday,
Sharon Searle celebrating

3085
03:05:17,579 --> 03:05:21,389
tomorrow Brendan flammer wishes
his daughter Zoey flammer. Happy

3086
03:05:21,389 --> 03:05:25,739
Birthday insurance 14 Tomorrow
Monte turns 49. Tomorrow, Colin

3087
03:05:25,739 --> 03:05:30,959
Witten turns 41 on. Well, on May
12, getting in nice and early,

3088
03:05:31,169 --> 03:05:34,529
and once again, not just from us
from Adam and John but also from

3089
03:05:34,529 --> 03:05:38,999
his lovely wife, Iris theatres.
Mark Boyd zero 40 years old

3090
03:05:38,999 --> 03:05:43,709
today Happy Birthday brother
from everybody here. Now we have

3091
03:05:44,189 --> 03:05:47,339
some nice things here but first
some notes to read because this

3092
03:05:47,339 --> 03:05:50,069
first one is from the donation
that came in on the last show

3093
03:05:50,069 --> 03:05:54,779
$1,000 from Joseph small lick in
the morning, gentlemen, my right

3094
03:05:54,779 --> 03:05:57,509
hand man Josh up in the mouth
about four years ago, I've been

3095
03:05:57,509 --> 03:05:59,909
a freeloading douchebag ever
since please forgive my

3096
03:05:59,909 --> 03:06:02,639
douchebaggery except my humble
offering. I would like to be

3097
03:06:02,639 --> 03:06:06,569
knighted sir Joe Joe of the
Holden forest. I would like slip

3098
03:06:06,599 --> 03:06:11,729
slivovitz and po TISA at the
round table. I have no idea

3099
03:06:11,729 --> 03:06:18,899
would put tea size pizza pizza.
You spell it? Pot ITC a pizza?

3100
03:06:19,439 --> 03:06:24,749
Thanks for all you do. Now with
a with a si P O P OTICA. I'm

3101
03:06:24,749 --> 03:06:28,829
sorry. P OT, someone's vacuuming
P O T ICA Portuguesa

3102
03:06:29,220 --> 03:06:32,100
John C Dvorak: and additional
Salvini and nut roll.

3103
03:06:33,900 --> 03:06:37,620
Adam Curry: Nice nut rule got a
note from Dame wind chimes

3104
03:06:37,620 --> 03:06:39,990
partridge in the morning to you
and Adam I've completed my

3105
03:06:39,990 --> 03:06:42,900
knighthood layaway plan would
like to switch rode the title of

3106
03:06:42,900 --> 03:06:46,950
knighted over to my smokin hot
husband Walker Phillips we just

3107
03:06:46,950 --> 03:06:49,740
celebrated our one year wedding
anniversary a couple of weeks

3108
03:06:49,740 --> 03:06:53,670
ago which also marks 11 years
together and we never had a

3109
03:06:53,670 --> 03:06:57,600
fight his night name shall be
sir seven partridge and he

3110
03:06:57,600 --> 03:07:02,190
requests a falafel wrap from
falafel hut in San Rafael,

3111
03:07:02,220 --> 03:07:06,840
California and a bottle of bento
vias 2018 Oakville Cabernet at

3112
03:07:06,840 --> 03:07:10,410
the round table. You really
stressing the staff here but we

3113
03:07:10,410 --> 03:07:13,890
got it for you. We also humbly
request some karma thank you for

3114
03:07:13,890 --> 03:07:17,340
your courage for both of you
Dame wind chain chimes Partridge

3115
03:07:17,370 --> 03:07:21,750
Of course we have a karma for
you. You've got karma and let's

3116
03:07:21,750 --> 03:07:27,390
bring out those blades for these
two nights John. Oh, I love

3117
03:07:27,390 --> 03:07:31,680
that's a good one. A happy one.
Walker Phillips Joseph small

3118
03:07:31,680 --> 03:07:34,290
like both of you hop up here on
the podium. You both have

3119
03:07:34,290 --> 03:07:37,470
supported no agenda show and you
might have $1,000 or more. It

3120
03:07:37,470 --> 03:07:39,900
doesn't matter how long it takes
to get there you get there and

3121
03:07:39,900 --> 03:07:43,500
then what happens I am very
proud to pronounce the Kate v as

3122
03:07:43,710 --> 03:07:47,970
Sir seven partridge and Sir Joe
Joe of the Holden forest for

3123
03:07:47,970 --> 03:07:51,450
you. We've got hookers in blue
red boys and Chardonnay by

3124
03:07:51,450 --> 03:07:54,540
request. We have a falafel wrap
from the falafel hut in San

3125
03:07:54,540 --> 03:07:58,440
Rafael California bottle of beer
novias 2018 Oakville, Cabernet,

3126
03:07:58,860 --> 03:08:04,140
a slim obits and poaching it's a
nut roll enjoy it. Along with

3127
03:08:04,140 --> 03:08:07,200
that Rubenesque rose encases
sock a bong hits and bourbon

3128
03:08:07,200 --> 03:08:09,690
sparkling cider escorts ginger
ale and Jerboas breast milk a

3129
03:08:09,690 --> 03:08:12,630
problem and of course the mutton
and Mead. Everybody loves a

3130
03:08:12,630 --> 03:08:14,640
little bit of mutton and meat as
you can see you chomping away

3131
03:08:14,640 --> 03:08:19,080
head over to no agenda rings.com
select the right size is a handy

3132
03:08:19,080 --> 03:08:21,330
sizing guide there. We'll get
that off to you. It's a signet

3133
03:08:21,330 --> 03:08:24,960
ring, so it comes with wax, you
can then sell your I'm sorry,

3134
03:08:25,770 --> 03:08:32,280
wax. So what did I say? Wax I
said wax comes with wax wax wax

3135
03:08:32,280 --> 03:08:35,550
to seal your important course
Don't interrupt the flow man wax

3136
03:08:35,550 --> 03:08:37,830
to seal your important
correspondence with and a

3137
03:08:37,830 --> 03:08:41,040
certificate authenticity. And we
love seeing our Knights and

3138
03:08:41,040 --> 03:08:43,320
Dames at the no agenda meetups
which we're going to talk about

3139
03:08:43,320 --> 03:08:52,530
now. Yeah, the no agenda meetup
will keep your amygdala in check

3140
03:08:52,530 --> 03:08:55,740
so you won't go off and do crazy
stuff like set yourself on fire.

3141
03:08:56,010 --> 03:08:58,800
Though you'll be calm you'll be
cool. You'd be collected because

3142
03:08:58,800 --> 03:09:02,310
you get to hang out and talk
with your fellow no agenda. No

3143
03:09:02,310 --> 03:09:05,940
agenda nation listeners.
Everybody's cool chill. You can

3144
03:09:05,940 --> 03:09:09,990
come from any background any any
any kind of background, any age,

3145
03:09:09,990 --> 03:09:12,810
any creed, any religion, any
race. Everybody gets along with

3146
03:09:12,810 --> 03:09:15,570
the meetups. We've never had a
fight breakout and a meetup.

3147
03:09:16,350 --> 03:09:21,180
Never is always fantastic. And
here's an example the Richmond

3148
03:09:21,180 --> 03:09:23,220
meetup I think that's Richmond,
Virginia. We had some

3149
03:09:23,280 --> 03:09:24,870
celebrities there in the
morning.

3150
03:09:24,870 --> 03:09:27,480
Unknown: This is Dame trail
trick and hostess of the ITM

3151
03:09:27,480 --> 03:09:29,160
Richmond meetup. Hi,

3152
03:09:29,250 --> 03:09:32,070
this is Randy Welcome to the ITM
Richmond meetup. I'm wearing my

3153
03:09:32,070 --> 03:09:35,820
fez today and it has made me
utterly evil to people. Sorry.

3154
03:09:35,910 --> 03:09:38,790
Hey, it's DC girl in the
morning, Jim and morning is

3155
03:09:38,790 --> 03:09:40,890
robbed from Richmond in the
morning. Jeff from Springfield.

3156
03:09:40,890 --> 03:09:41,070
Has

3157
03:09:41,070 --> 03:09:43,920
anybody ever had a full
conversation with Roger roundy

3158
03:09:45,180 --> 03:09:48,510
This is Tony from Williamsburg
in the morning. Marshall from

3159
03:09:48,510 --> 03:09:52,920
Richmond. Thank you for
protecting us from cannibals. In

3160
03:09:52,920 --> 03:09:56,610
the morning from Ed Shaya and
study Virginia where I had to

3161
03:09:56,610 --> 03:09:59,520
have at least two human
resources to live in the

3162
03:09:59,520 --> 03:10:00,060
neighborhood. Is

3163
03:10:00,060 --> 03:10:04,560
Alex happy in Virginia trains
good plains bad? This is Tom

3164
03:10:04,560 --> 03:10:07,470
Starkweather. I'm very happy
with another great Virginia

3165
03:10:07,470 --> 03:10:08,400
crowd here.

3166
03:10:10,559 --> 03:10:14,519
Adam Curry: So I'm talking about
roundy DC girl Alex and Tom is

3167
03:10:14,519 --> 03:10:18,239
celebrities that men's lives
should have been there. You can

3168
03:10:18,239 --> 03:10:21,449
join some cool meetups. We have
some taking place today the

3169
03:10:21,449 --> 03:10:24,089
North Georgia monthly one year
anniversary starts at six

3170
03:10:24,089 --> 03:10:27,689
o'clock at Cherry Street brewing
in Alpharetta, Georgia. The st.

3171
03:10:27,719 --> 03:10:31,559
Macedonia's feast day Denver
meet up 630 at Lincoln's

3172
03:10:31,559 --> 03:10:35,729
Roadhouse in Denver, on
Saturday, the little owl sace

3173
03:10:35,789 --> 03:10:39,089
little Aussies, Elsa, states of
Texas meet up and I know

3174
03:10:39,119 --> 03:10:42,479
someone's gonna get me a sauce
el sauce, and I'm gonna let you

3175
03:10:42,479 --> 03:10:46,019
know what that means. At the
Blue Lace Smokehouse Castroville

3176
03:10:46,019 --> 03:10:49,559
Texas. There you go. Dame
Taylor's organizing that also on

3177
03:10:49,559 --> 03:10:52,229
Saturday in northeast Indiana
Meetup is the solar eclipse

3178
03:10:52,229 --> 03:10:55,979
survivors club 33 One o'clock at
Casa grill and bar, Fort Wayne,

3179
03:10:56,009 --> 03:10:59,339
Indiana. Then we have Sydney
Australia we talked about

3180
03:10:59,339 --> 03:11:03,389
earlier 130 On Saturday,
Australian Eastern Standard Time

3181
03:11:03,389 --> 03:11:08,009
the fiddler commercial Hill in
rouse Hill, New South Wales. As

3182
03:11:08,009 --> 03:11:12,779
for Cook, we have the 10th
northwest Houston meet up at 530

3183
03:11:12,779 --> 03:11:15,929
at Wakefield crowbar in Houston,
Texas. That's also on Saturday,

3184
03:11:16,169 --> 03:11:19,979
and the Central Ohio meetup 530
at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio

3185
03:11:19,979 --> 03:11:23,729
and the must be high number 15,
two o'clock at Granite brewery

3186
03:11:23,729 --> 03:11:27,659
in Toronto, Canada, and the
organizer that have served I

3187
03:11:27,659 --> 03:11:31,409
must be high on the horizon for
May, Torrance, California,

3188
03:11:31,409 --> 03:11:33,539
Arlington, Virginia Blaine,
Washington, Leiden the

3189
03:11:33,539 --> 03:11:36,449
Netherlands, Charleston, South
Carolina, Charlotte, North

3190
03:11:36,449 --> 03:11:41,009
Carolina, Richmond, Virginia,
Tulsa, Oklahoma for June Fargo,

3191
03:11:41,009 --> 03:11:45,299
North Dakota, Scottsdale Arizona
Mosley, Virginia, Amsterdam it

3192
03:11:45,299 --> 03:11:47,729
looks like we're combining the
two meetups into one I'll be

3193
03:11:47,729 --> 03:11:52,409
there on June 15. And coming up
to be scheduled June 18. Barron

3194
03:11:52,409 --> 03:11:56,219
Scott here in Texas, Austin,
Texas will be hosting a barbecue

3195
03:11:56,249 --> 03:11:58,319
meet up at his house so that
should be good. Those are just

3196
03:11:58,319 --> 03:12:02,069
some of the no agenda meetups
that you definitely do not want

3197
03:12:02,069 --> 03:12:05,159
to miss. It's where you find
your community can't spell

3198
03:12:05,159 --> 03:12:08,219
community without unity and
connection brings protection go

3199
03:12:08,219 --> 03:12:11,669
to no agenda meet ups.com If you
can't find one near you store

3200
03:12:11,669 --> 03:12:12,809
one is easy.

3201
03:12:14,670 --> 03:12:26,040
Unknown: Go with Dyson day. You
wouldn't be you want to be

3202
03:12:31,050 --> 03:12:34,590
Adam Curry: is like a party.
Yeah, it's always a party. It's

3203
03:12:34,590 --> 03:12:38,040
a party at those places. I'm
looking forward to the Amsterdam

3204
03:12:38,040 --> 03:12:42,210
meetup. It's gonna be fun. It's
gonna be fun. And to show ISOs I

3205
03:12:42,210 --> 03:12:44,760
have three to test on you today.
Here we go with number one.

3206
03:12:44,940 --> 03:12:51,960
Yeah. Oh. Okay, I'll stand back
for the enthusiasm. I have this

3207
03:12:51,960 --> 03:12:52,830
one. Imagine

3208
03:12:52,830 --> 03:12:53,910
Unknown: what we can do next.

3209
03:12:55,770 --> 03:12:59,250
Adam Curry: Okay, and I think
this this is a contender. Enjoy

3210
03:12:59,250 --> 03:13:01,020
your free speech. There you go.

3211
03:13:02,880 --> 03:13:04,860
John C Dvorak: Mike Johnson
actually liked the Biden one

3212
03:13:04,860 --> 03:13:06,150
better really?

3213
03:13:06,510 --> 03:13:06,930
Yeah,

3214
03:13:07,230 --> 03:13:09,750
Adam Curry: you got any You got
any ISOs I have one

3215
03:13:09,750 --> 03:13:12,600
John C Dvorak: lone ISO which is
similar to yours. talk's cheap

3216
03:13:14,400 --> 03:13:15,030
Hmm.

3217
03:13:15,120 --> 03:13:17,220
Unknown: I enjoy your free
speech.

3218
03:13:18,330 --> 03:13:20,430
Adam Curry: You'd like you'd
like to Biden over that one?

3219
03:13:20,940 --> 03:13:21,570
Yep, let

3220
03:13:23,640 --> 03:13:28,020
Unknown: me go imagine what we
can do next. Huh

3221
03:13:29,130 --> 03:13:31,020
John C Dvorak: Well if you liked
this free speech when I'm not

3222
03:13:31,050 --> 03:13:33,390
I'm not wed because he's such

3223
03:13:33,390 --> 03:13:35,310
Unknown: a dork. Enjoy your free
speech.

3224
03:13:35,340 --> 03:13:38,340
Adam Curry: I can I want to do
okay. If you don't mind, I'll do

3225
03:13:38,340 --> 03:13:42,720
the free speech. News. Everyone
is right time for some good

3226
03:13:42,720 --> 03:13:46,290
news. John takes us into the
rest of your day and evening

3227
03:13:46,290 --> 03:13:49,500
with some good news to make you
feel good about life after all

3228
03:13:49,500 --> 03:13:53,100
the horrible mainstream
propaganda you've had to listen

3229
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:56,070
to but you already feel good
about that. Because we've kept

3230
03:13:56,070 --> 03:13:58,980
your amygdala in check. laugh
about it. These people are

3231
03:13:58,980 --> 03:14:02,910
crazy. Nothing to worry about.
Now let's up it a bit with some

3232
03:14:02,910 --> 03:14:03,540
good news.

3233
03:14:03,570 --> 03:14:05,760
John C Dvorak: All right, so we
have a nine year old who won the

3234
03:14:05,760 --> 03:14:11,280
European he had to go to his
English kid. Seagulls screeching

3235
03:14:11,280 --> 03:14:16,170
contest nine year old wow this
is this is a new twist. Yes. Big

3236
03:14:16,170 --> 03:14:21,630
it's like the song Bureau's
vision. Eurovision wins cute

3237
03:14:21,630 --> 03:14:25,890
little kid that apparently had a
seagull snatch a ham sandwich

3238
03:14:25,890 --> 03:14:28,890
from him one year and he got bit
by the thing and they beat now

3239
03:14:28,890 --> 03:14:30,480
it sounds like one of

3240
03:14:30,480 --> 03:14:34,620
Unknown: the European song
contest with a difference the EC

3241
03:14:34,620 --> 03:14:39,360
goal screeching competition sees
entrance mimicking the sound of

3242
03:14:39,360 --> 03:14:43,530
seagulls Britain has just won
it. Thanks to a nine year old

3243
03:14:43,530 --> 03:14:46,470
from Chesterfield who traveled
to Belgium to claim the

3244
03:14:46,470 --> 03:14:48,930
championship title. Here's Sally
Biddle.

3245
03:14:54,030 --> 03:14:57,060
Yes, ladies and gentleman that
is a little boy dressed as a

3246
03:14:57,060 --> 03:15:00,960
seagull sounding exactly like a
seagull. From the cusp of

3247
03:15:00,960 --> 03:15:04,740
winning a seagull competition in
Belgium, channeling the emotion

3248
03:15:04,770 --> 03:15:12,060
of a Hungry Girl sealed the
victory No, you have not entered

3249
03:15:12,060 --> 03:15:15,510
a parallel universe. This is the
European girl screeching

3250
03:15:15,510 --> 03:15:19,860
competition. And with a score of
92 out of 100, the now reigning

3251
03:15:19,860 --> 03:15:23,700
Junior Champion Cooper Wallace
from Chesterfield. How you may

3252
03:15:23,700 --> 03:15:27,270
ask did it all begin? QR
colleagues this morning?

3253
03:15:27,930 --> 03:15:32,700
It was in Devon on Wall Akun
Beach, when one stole my ham

3254
03:15:32,700 --> 03:15:36,210
sandwich and it went over my
head and my finger. So I think

3255
03:15:36,210 --> 03:15:42,210
it's a Spider Man effect. This
eagle on the highest Cooper

3256
03:15:42,210 --> 03:15:44,430
beat off competition from many
others

3257
03:15:49,800 --> 03:15:52,770
including from an adult group
ensemble, which entered as a

3258
03:15:52,770 --> 03:15:59,640
colony. Cooper's family it was
an experience like no other

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03:15:59,670 --> 03:16:00,420
really,

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03:16:00,420 --> 03:16:06,150
really big day for me and like
it was awesome, fairly big news.

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03:16:06,270 --> 03:16:08,490
Adam Curry: Well, I love I love
that these children are not

3262
03:16:08,490 --> 03:16:12,810
scrolling on tick tock. No, no,
they're not just Doom scrolling

3263
03:16:12,810 --> 03:16:14,970
away. They're getting out.
They're doing something with

3264
03:16:14,970 --> 03:16:19,770
their friends. And I wonder how
many dogs went nuts during the

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03:16:19,800 --> 03:16:22,050
that good news? Because that was

3266
03:16:22,080 --> 03:16:22,710
John C Dvorak: a good point.

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03:16:24,810 --> 03:16:29,010
Adam Curry: Good, good news.
Good news. Good news. Good news.

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03:16:29,010 --> 03:16:32,400
Good news always ends our
broadcast day and we thank

3269
03:16:32,400 --> 03:16:35,370
everybody in the troll room for
being here. Once again. We'd

3270
03:16:35,370 --> 03:16:38,070
love you all trolls your great
thank you to our artists thank

3271
03:16:38,070 --> 03:16:42,300
you to everyone who sends us
clips boots on the ground and

3272
03:16:42,300 --> 03:16:45,330
helps produce the best podcast
in the universe without you

3273
03:16:45,330 --> 03:16:48,330
would be nothing and without us
it would be nothing. So it works

3274
03:16:48,330 --> 03:16:52,320
out well that way. We have some
random show clips coming up we

3275
03:16:52,320 --> 03:16:57,360
got Professor Jane Jones from
China and not one but to count

3276
03:16:57,360 --> 03:17:01,590
them to phantom Ville classics.
You'll love them. Up next on no

3277
03:17:01,590 --> 03:17:05,370
agenda stream.com so just stay
tuned to troll room.io Or your

3278
03:17:05,370 --> 03:17:09,510
modern podcast app we have live
abs and a six pack sir cedar

3279
03:17:09,510 --> 03:17:14,250
standing by to take over the
stream. It's just like a radio

3280
03:17:14,250 --> 03:17:17,490
station is crazy. Coming to you
from the heart of the Texas hill

3281
03:17:17,490 --> 03:17:20,490
country here in FEMA Region
number six where it's eaten up

3282
03:17:20,490 --> 03:17:23,730
in Fredericksburg. In the
morning everybody I'm Adam curry

3283
03:17:23,940 --> 03:17:26,310
John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain

3284
03:17:26,310 --> 03:17:28,110
I'm John C. Dvorak we returned

3285
03:17:28,140 --> 03:17:31,500
Adam Curry: on Sunday with
another JAM PACKED episode to

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03:17:31,500 --> 03:17:34,650
shrink your amygdala make you
feel like you're in control of

3287
03:17:34,650 --> 03:17:38,640
your world. And remember, just
look at the ground if you feel

3288
03:17:38,640 --> 03:17:41,970
dizzy it'll all go away.
Remember I said no agenda

3289
03:17:41,970 --> 03:17:47,910
donations can.com dvorak.org/na
Until next time, adios mofos Hui

3290
03:17:47,910 --> 03:17:49,530
Hui and such

3291
03:17:56,850 --> 03:18:07,410
Unknown: with the greens and
whiskey bomb isn't going away

3292
03:18:10,680 --> 03:18:14,100
stay close to the nest

3293
03:18:23,820 --> 03:18:26,160
This is Kevin

3294
03:18:32,610 --> 03:18:39,210
started with a nest Ray.

3295
03:18:46,440 --> 03:18:46,920
Ray

3296
03:18:54,090 --> 03:18:54,600
Ray

3297
03:18:59,880 --> 03:19:02,460
US Supreme Court today heard
arguments in the most

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03:19:02,490 --> 03:19:05,040
significant case on homelessness
in decades.

3299
03:19:05,640 --> 03:19:08,100
A majority of the Supreme Court
appear to side with the local

3300
03:19:08,100 --> 03:19:11,310
ordinances allowing cities to
ban homeless people for sleeping

3301
03:19:11,310 --> 03:19:13,620
or camping in public spaces.
These laws

3302
03:19:13,620 --> 03:19:16,620
punish homeless people who have
no other choice really but to

3303
03:19:16,620 --> 03:19:17,940
sleep outside.

3304
03:19:18,180 --> 03:19:22,380
Your ordinance prohibits a
single person who is homeless

3305
03:19:22,440 --> 03:19:25,320
and don't have to have a tent.
You don't have to have a camp.

3306
03:19:25,620 --> 03:19:25,980
These

3307
03:19:25,980 --> 03:19:28,440
were people who had lived in
Grants Pass their whole lives

3308
03:19:28,440 --> 03:19:31,470
and went to high school there.
But a crisis homelessness has

3309
03:19:31,470 --> 03:19:33,150
become in the state of
California.

3310
03:19:33,210 --> 03:19:37,620
Your statute says that person
cannot take himself can't take a

3311
03:19:37,620 --> 03:19:40,950
blanket and sleep someplace
violating this ordinance means

3312
03:19:40,950 --> 03:19:43,980
you're homeless homelessness is
not something you can do which

3313
03:19:43,980 --> 03:19:47,820
is something that you are we are
nine times more unsheltered

3314
03:19:47,820 --> 03:19:48,420
homeless

3315
03:19:48,510 --> 03:19:52,140
in a tent on the little league
field a dead body was found

3316
03:19:52,170 --> 03:19:55,020
officials say they only cyfle
arrest homeless people when they

3317
03:19:55,020 --> 03:19:58,800
refused offers of shelter and
only clearing cabins if they are

3318
03:19:58,800 --> 03:19:59,970
a public health issue.

3319
03:20:00,510 --> 03:20:03,720
Sleeping in public is kind of
like brief and then public. I'm

3320
03:20:03,720 --> 03:20:06,450
increasing the quality and
condition of our city's

3321
03:20:06,450 --> 03:20:08,970
deteriorating waste fires.

3322
03:20:09,030 --> 03:20:12,960
These laws help encourage people
to accept available shelter

3323
03:20:12,990 --> 03:20:15,180
people are dying on our streets.
Do

3324
03:20:15,180 --> 03:20:19,530
the homeless have some
constitutional protection from

3325
03:20:19,560 --> 03:20:21,090
being criminalized

3326
03:20:21,150 --> 03:20:24,420
unchecked growth of homeless
encampments,

3327
03:20:24,450 --> 03:20:28,800
the Biden administration who had
filed an amicus brief in support

3328
03:20:28,830 --> 03:20:30,150
of the homeless that's

3329
03:20:30,150 --> 03:20:32,730
what we see them all over on our
parks and our sidewalks in front

3330
03:20:32,730 --> 03:20:35,760
of businesses near schools.
650,000

3331
03:20:36,060 --> 03:20:39,660
nationwide isn't the real issue
here not moving people out of

3332
03:20:39,660 --> 03:20:43,560
public spaces, but actually
dramatically increasing the

3333
03:20:43,560 --> 03:20:46,080
amount of housing that we have.
I

3334
03:20:46,080 --> 03:20:49,890
know a lot of people want to
send blankets or water. Just

3335
03:20:49,890 --> 03:20:51,210
send your cash and your

3336
03:20:51,210 --> 03:20:55,200
statute says that person cannot
take himself can't take a

3337
03:20:55,200 --> 03:20:57,210
blanket and sleep someplace

3338
03:20:57,240 --> 03:21:00,120
and a lot of people want to send
blankets through water.

3339
03:21:00,870 --> 03:21:02,010
Just send your cash

3340
03:21:08,760 --> 03:21:17,490
Adam Curry: that's right Tiktok
tick tock tick tock tick tock

3341
03:21:20,910 --> 03:21:24,300
tick tock tick tock. Tick

3342
03:21:24,300 --> 03:21:26,940
Unknown: tock tick tock tick
tock.

3343
03:21:37,680 --> 03:21:38,310
Adam Curry: Right

3344
03:21:57,570 --> 03:21:59,670
That's right. Tick tock

3345
03:22:07,500 --> 03:22:11,130
Unknown: Mofo boruch.org/and.

3346
03:22:13,200 --> 03:22:14,430
Enjoy your free speech.