1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,910 Unknown: Unbelievable dude. Adam curry, 2 00:00:03,030 --> 00:00:06,930 Adam Curry: John C Devorah 1720 20 for this show award 3 00:00:06,930 --> 00:00:11,220 winning give a nation media assassination episode 1643 This 4 00:00:11,310 --> 00:00:12,660 Unknown: is no agenda 5 00:00:14,009 --> 00:00:17,669 Adam Curry: for the lucky Irish broadcasting live from the heart 6 00:00:17,669 --> 00:00:20,999 of Texas Hill Country here and fina reached number six in the 7 00:00:20,999 --> 00:00:22,799 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:23,250 --> 00:00:25,560 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where it is our 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,420 third St. Patrick's Day show on show day. I'm John Cena 10 00:00:32,340 --> 00:00:37,260 Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Well, this is statistic I didn't expect. 11 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:41,220 John C Dvorak: Way to go. Yeah. I didn't expect to have this 12 00:00:41,220 --> 00:00:45,660 statistic. I was doing some research. Oh, you were doing 13 00:00:45,660 --> 00:00:47,730 your own research ship and ran into 14 00:00:49,170 --> 00:00:51,840 Adam Curry: research. He calls it honey, I'm upstairs in my 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,520 office doing research. 16 00:00:53,970 --> 00:00:57,390 John C Dvorak: It's research. What would you call it? Just 17 00:00:57,390 --> 00:01:00,570 Adam Curry: checking the archives. You call it research, 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,550 John C Dvorak: checking the archives. That's the definition 19 00:01:02,550 --> 00:01:05,250 of Reese research. Being 20 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:09,930 Adam Curry: it.io Everybody now with AI? It's fabulous. It's 21 00:01:09,930 --> 00:01:13,590 fabulous. Well, Happy St. Patty's Day to you then John. 22 00:01:14,220 --> 00:01:16,500 John C Dvorak: But happy St. Patty's Day to you. And I think 23 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:19,620 this is the time to play the Clare Daly. Greetings to the 24 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:23,700 show. Yes, hold on a second, by the way before we play it. This 25 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:26,580 is Claire Daly in front of the European Parliament. Yes. 26 00:01:26,610 --> 00:01:29,970 Unknown: Hello Gitmo nation. On this day where everyone is 27 00:01:29,970 --> 00:01:33,000 Irish. I wish you all been knocked in a fella power cord. 28 00:01:33,330 --> 00:01:36,660 So raise the pie to our host, John and Adam. And before you 29 00:01:36,660 --> 00:01:39,480 spend all your money on hedonistic Bacchanalia as a 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,350 drink in excess in the name of a paper saint. Remember to set 31 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:45,270 aside some treasure for our favorite media. 32 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:47,910 deconstructionists. Thank you for your courage. 33 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:51,330 Adam Curry: And just to point out the obvious this is not AI. 34 00:01:53,910 --> 00:01:54,450 Or is it? 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,300 John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm pretty sure it's AI. 36 00:01:57,330 --> 00:01:59,520 Adam Curry: I thought we had a producer who could actually talk 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,830 that way. Well, Liz, 38 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:05,220 John C Dvorak: is the producer provided with that it's possible 39 00:02:05,220 --> 00:02:07,020 you could you could have that voice. 40 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:09,210 Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, don't don't do that. Don't you go to 41 00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:12,450 Ireland. They all they all talk like that? Don't 42 00:02:14,670 --> 00:02:18,150 John C Dvorak: actually they do. I thought when you leave it, 43 00:02:18,150 --> 00:02:20,070 we'll leave it up in the air for now. 44 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:21,930 Adam Curry: I wouldn't. How was this? Did you request it? Or 45 00:02:21,930 --> 00:02:25,890 does she just send it as I love our producer? We got this is a 46 00:02:25,890 --> 00:02:30,420 value for value podcast and you won't hear an ad. You won't hear 47 00:02:30,420 --> 00:02:33,060 anything like that. No creepy corporate money. No, nope. 48 00:02:33,150 --> 00:02:37,440 Native Ads, little sneaky stuff in there. No. And all we ask for 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,570 is that if you get any value from the show, you return it 50 00:02:39,570 --> 00:02:43,620 with your time, your talent or your treasure and go to cylinder 51 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:44,670 mint.com. 52 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:50,880 John C Dvorak: So I'm I said, I would like to get off by 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,140 discussing a little bit of this situation with that Trump clip 54 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:56,790 that came in from one of our producers. 55 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:59,070 Adam Curry: Yes, I have the two clips at the ready. 56 00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:04,350 John C Dvorak: First of all, I heard you know, I went back and 57 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:07,800 forth this is from I think just a day or two ago and Trump was 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,190 in Ohio. He gave us a little lengthy speech as well. 59 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:13,920 Adam Curry: Yep, yeah. And he came right in and did it without 60 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:18,270 prompter. He had a prompter there. No, but he said the 61 00:03:18,270 --> 00:03:21,570 prompt that said my great staff put the prompter on really 62 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:25,170 stable footing was windy. He says I can't read it. Because it 63 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:25,830 was just waving 64 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:28,530 John C Dvorak: we need a prompt or Jen does better without the 65 00:03:28,530 --> 00:03:34,860 prompt. She would I agree. I agree with the ad libs but so I 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,900 this was a long, long clip that we're going to play and discuss 67 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:42,120 it and it comes out that we're what 68 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Adam Curry: can I can I can I play the news report first. 69 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:47,430 John C Dvorak: Which news to report. Did 70 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:49,620 Adam Curry: you get? CBS? 71 00:03:51,150 --> 00:03:53,280 John C Dvorak: Yes, I want I want to hear this report. 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,130 Because this morning I was saying in the in the email 73 00:03:56,130 --> 00:03:59,640 exchange. Well, I have yet to hear anybody exploit this clip. 74 00:04:01,290 --> 00:04:06,690 And scripts news. I'm watching scripts of all places. And they 75 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:07,950 did it to me. Oh 76 00:04:07,950 --> 00:04:10,680 Adam Curry: yeah. This is this is one of those genius things. 77 00:04:10,950 --> 00:04:14,340 And I think Trump does it for this reason. I'm looking at 78 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:14,670 like, 79 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:17,430 John C Dvorak: I don't think he nobody could be that smart. 80 00:04:19,290 --> 00:04:22,530 Adam Curry: All right. He's playing Five D chess man what 81 00:04:22,530 --> 00:04:25,200 you talking about? But when I when I asked myself in the 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,340 morning, what does the algo tell me to pay attention to today? 83 00:04:29,460 --> 00:04:30,660 This is what came up 84 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,300 Unknown: on the political front. Today former President Trump was 85 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:36,180 on the campaign trail in the battleground state of Ohio. The 86 00:04:36,180 --> 00:04:39,420 Buckeye State is friendly territory for Trump. He won 87 00:04:39,420 --> 00:04:44,070 there in 2016 and 2020. Appearing in a rally in Dayton 88 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:47,640 he addressed the crowd speculating what would happen if 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,700 he loses the upcoming presidential election. 90 00:04:50,850 --> 00:04:54,090 Now if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the 91 00:04:54,090 --> 00:04:56,700 whole, that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a 92 00:04:56,700 --> 00:04:59,070 bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. 93 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:01,980 Today's topic Aron's comes just one day after Trump's former 94 00:05:01,980 --> 00:05:05,820 Vice President Mike Pence said he cannot in good conscience 95 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,350 endorse him again. 96 00:05:07,380 --> 00:05:11,160 Adam Curry: I mean, Tiffany, Tim depend taps for CBS believe. 97 00:05:11,970 --> 00:05:13,050 Great job. 98 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:17,520 John C Dvorak: Unbelievable distortion of the reality. What 99 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,550 fake news by the way, I want to also mention this, we're not 100 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:23,100 going to talk about it too much. But I will mention to pence 101 00:05:23,610 --> 00:05:27,390 stupidity. If Pence was smart, he just said, Well, I'm just 102 00:05:27,390 --> 00:05:31,860 going to endorse whoever gets nominated. But he came up 103 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:38,310 because he was he was discussing right to life. And he's a pro 104 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:43,590 lifer. And he thinks Trump is is on the fence about it, and so 105 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:45,930 he's not going to endorse, that's the reason. 106 00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:50,490 Adam Curry: Also, I've seen, that's another algo that I 107 00:05:50,490 --> 00:05:54,270 missed, but yeah, the it's all deceptive. Um, so I'm going to 108 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:58,110 play as if 53 seconds of the original bloodbath, quote, I'm 109 00:05:58,110 --> 00:06:00,930 gonna play that little edit by CBS again, for a minute here, 110 00:06:00,930 --> 00:06:02,100 just a short piece of it, 111 00:06:02,310 --> 00:06:05,910 Unknown: he addressed the crowd speculating what would happen if 112 00:06:05,910 --> 00:06:08,970 he loses the upcoming presidential election. 113 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,240 Now, if I don't get elected, it's gonna be a bloodbath for 114 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,760 the whole, that's going to be the least of it, it's going to 115 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,370 be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it. 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Today's appearance comes just one, maybe 117 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Adam Curry: there was something before that maybe there was 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,050 something right after it. Let's go to the video today. 119 00:06:25,380 --> 00:06:29,310 Unknown: China now is building a couple of massive plans, where 120 00:06:29,310 --> 00:06:32,820 they're going to build the cars in Mexico, and think they think 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,910 that they're going to sell those cars into the United States with 122 00:06:35,910 --> 00:06:39,360 no tax at the border. Let me tell you something to China. If 123 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,180 you're listening President Xi, and you and I are friends, but 124 00:06:42,210 --> 00:06:46,710 he understands the way I deal, those big monster car 125 00:06:46,710 --> 00:06:50,460 manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now. 126 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:53,310 And you think you're going to get that you're going to not 127 00:06:53,310 --> 00:06:56,250 hire Americans and you're going to sell the cars to us. No, 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,750 we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes 129 00:07:00,750 --> 00:07:03,660 across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those 130 00:07:03,660 --> 00:07:07,800 guys, if I get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's gonna 131 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,130 be a bloodbath for the whole, that's gonna be the least of it. 132 00:07:11,130 --> 00:07:13,440 It's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the 133 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,350 least of it. But they're not going to sell those cars have 134 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:18,510 building massive factories, a friend of mine, 135 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:21,000 Adam Curry: so they took out right before I mean, even that's 136 00:07:21,030 --> 00:07:24,840 the very line after he says that he goes back to the cars. 137 00:07:25,260 --> 00:07:28,200 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so he's talking about car manufacturing. 138 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:31,500 And by the way, I don't know what they can do about this is 139 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:35,250 they can talk a big game, but we got that treaty with Canada and 140 00:07:35,250 --> 00:07:41,790 Mexico. And the Chinese saw they saw a an exploit. And so the BYD 141 00:07:41,790 --> 00:07:46,200 is the company building a mash a giga plant down in Mexico to 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,710 build electric cars, specifically, because of Biden's 143 00:07:49,740 --> 00:07:54,120 mandates. They figure they can build electric cars in Mexico 144 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,150 cheaply, and then just run right into the country with terror 145 00:07:57,150 --> 00:08:00,510 free because that's what the that is a workaround is a 146 00:08:00,510 --> 00:08:03,660 beauty. I thought that it's genius, to be honest about it. 147 00:08:03,660 --> 00:08:06,690 And of course, he doesn't mention that in this speech. But 148 00:08:06,690 --> 00:08:10,500 this bloodbath taken out of context, her death for the 149 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:14,010 industry is not a bloodbath in terms of a civil war. That's 150 00:08:14,010 --> 00:08:16,950 what they tried to make it out to be. This is disgusting. I 151 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:17,310 couldn't 152 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:19,170 Adam Curry: clip it because I was in the car on the way back 153 00:08:19,170 --> 00:08:24,180 from church. Nancy Pelosi was on MSNBC and she a CNN and she was 154 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:26,790 quoting it. Trump said this is going to be a bloodbath if he 155 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:29,760 doesn't get elected. Nancy Pelosi was quoting it already 156 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,630 this morning. 157 00:08:31,770 --> 00:08:34,710 John C Dvorak: This is disgusting. Yes, 158 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:37,919 Adam Curry: I think you've made your feelings very clear. Of 159 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:42,029 course, it's Wait a minute, you're surprised there's 160 00:08:42,059 --> 00:08:45,959 gambling they're pulling out all the stops. So I don't for a 161 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:50,909 second believe that Bobby big Bitcoin Bobby, the OP RFK Jr. 162 00:08:50,909 --> 00:08:53,699 That he really wants Aaron Rodgers to be his vice 163 00:08:53,699 --> 00:08:57,689 presidential candidate. Do you know well, they're pulling that 164 00:08:57,689 --> 00:08:59,219 one out morning, Joe time. Robert 165 00:08:59,220 --> 00:09:02,280 Unknown: F. Chang here. Yesterday, was asked about 166 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:05,850 Rogers. His beliefs about Sandy Hook. And all Kennedy had to say 167 00:09:05,850 --> 00:09:10,260 was that he praised Rogers as a quote, critical thinker, didn't 168 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:12,990 denounce his comments didn't distance himself from Rogers 169 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:16,110 denounced said the two men talk frequently believe Rogers did 170 00:09:16,110 --> 00:09:18,810 put out a statement later in which he tried to clean it up. 171 00:09:18,810 --> 00:09:21,780 But it was pretty vague in its wording. It wasn't a full 172 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:25,680 throated denial. And we should note this is not Rogers's only 173 00:09:25,710 --> 00:09:28,680 conspiracy theory that he endorses. He also has questioned 174 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:31,320 September elevens, believing it's an inside job that's 175 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,510 according to some of his four packers teammates who have told 176 00:09:33,510 --> 00:09:35,700 reporters the writers were talking in the locker room about 177 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:38,490 things like this. We know his stance on vaccines. That's what 178 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:41,850 brought him and Kennedy together in the first place. And now 179 00:09:41,940 --> 00:09:45,810 rotters at least being floated as a potential VP candidate, 180 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,210 despite the fact that we think he's going to play quarterback 181 00:09:48,390 --> 00:09:51,180 for the Jets this weekend, if you can this fall, if you can 182 00:09:51,180 --> 00:09:52,740 recover from his injury, but 183 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:57,840 Adam Curry: a hoax Oh, he's Oh no, he hasn't denounced his 184 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,900 horrible Sandy Hook of anti Vaxxer throw it all in there 185 00:10:01,050 --> 00:10:02,700 anything. The 186 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:04,950 John C Dvorak: thing that's interesting is that if you go to 187 00:10:04,950 --> 00:10:06,600 Fox they dug up 188 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,380 Adam Curry: a Joe Rogan interview probably no, 189 00:10:10,380 --> 00:10:14,790 John C Dvorak: no they dug up a local report from the in the 190 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:21,540 Sandy Hook area. And it was Rogers heaping you know, he was 191 00:10:21,540 --> 00:10:24,690 just very sympathetic and he felt it was terrible that this 192 00:10:24,690 --> 00:10:28,380 happened. It went on and on and on. He was he never did the 193 00:10:28,380 --> 00:10:33,210 Sandy Hook was the Sandy Hook hoax. The Sandy hooks hook never 194 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,870 it was never on his mind. They made that up. The media is 195 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:39,840 losing it. They can't keep making this stuff up and think 196 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,380 they can get away with it except for the dumb shits who watched 197 00:10:43,380 --> 00:10:47,160 the view and watch morning, Joe. Well, 198 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:51,630 Adam Curry: they're the number one problem for President Biden 199 00:10:51,630 --> 00:10:56,040 and his reelection campaign is of course the genocide Jo 200 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,610 moniker. So they they really went all out on this and we 201 00:10:59,610 --> 00:11:03,750 identified it Thursday, we had the clip of Senator Chuck 202 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:07,710 Schumer, the top the top Jew in Congress going out there and 203 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:14,580 saying BBs gotta resign BBC. Oh, no, good. So this is full force 204 00:11:14,730 --> 00:11:19,050 all the Sunday shows everybody's not that just going after him 205 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:20,250 who the things that Chuck 206 00:11:20,250 --> 00:11:23,220 Unknown: Schumer emphasizing. He's the highest ranking Jewish 207 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:26,400 elected official in the United States, levied a blistering 208 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,960 attack on every was responsible for the war in Gaza. To blame 209 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,560 only Israel for the deaths of Palestinians is unfair, one 210 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:39,360 sided and often deliberately manipulative. And it ignores 211 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,970 Hamas his role in this conflict, 212 00:11:42,180 --> 00:11:45,090 the Senate Majority Leader blaming the terror group, as 213 00:11:45,090 --> 00:11:49,140 well as Israel as far right as some of the obstacles for a US 214 00:11:49,140 --> 00:11:52,740 backed two state solution and taking aim at Palestinian 215 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:53,910 leaders. Quite 216 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:56,670 frankly, I haven't heard enough Palestinian leaders Express 217 00:11:56,670 --> 00:11:59,730 anguish about Hamas and other extreme elements of Palestinian 218 00:11:59,730 --> 00:12:04,740 society. I implore them to speak up now, even when it may be 219 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:05,700 hardest that 220 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:09,330 includes Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas clinging 221 00:12:09,330 --> 00:12:13,440 to Office for nearly 20 years. Polling shows 90% of 222 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Palestinians want the 88 year old to step down. But Schumer's 223 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,790 most eye raising comments were to Israel's Prime Minister, 224 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:21,450 Prime 225 00:12:21,450 --> 00:12:25,590 Minister Netanyahu has lost his way he's lost to willing to 226 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:29,850 tolerate the civilian toll in Gaza, which is pushing support 227 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:35,940 for Israel worldwide to historic lows. Israel cannot survive. If 228 00:12:35,940 --> 00:12:38,130 it becomes a pariah. Yes. 229 00:12:39,810 --> 00:12:42,480 The embattled prime minister is vowing to push away 230 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,260 international pressures and carry on the offensive in Gaza 231 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,920 were airstrikes continued overnight during the first week 232 00:12:49,950 --> 00:12:50,940 of Ramadan. 233 00:12:51,180 --> 00:12:54,120 Adam Curry: So this is very confusing, because we all know 234 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,420 that Jews control all of Congress. So which Jews are 235 00:12:57,420 --> 00:13:01,080 that? It's not? It's not that I thought he was the Zionist. Wow. 236 00:13:01,110 --> 00:13:04,890 So it's some Jews controlling the Jews to stop the Jews. I 237 00:13:04,890 --> 00:13:07,590 have no idea what's going on. But they're bringing out all the 238 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:10,530 globalists. Even on poor Dahlia, it's 239 00:13:10,530 --> 00:13:15,540 Unknown: very easy for Netanyahu to hide behind the I have the 240 00:13:15,540 --> 00:13:19,710 support or my policies have the support of the Israeli public in 241 00:13:19,710 --> 00:13:23,820 terms of your research. Do you sense that there's a change 242 00:13:23,820 --> 00:13:27,660 there that the support for the war itself is waning at all? 243 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:29,970 Adam Curry: Oh, it's waning, everybody? 244 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,950 Unknown: Well, that's what I was getting at before. I don't think 245 00:13:31,950 --> 00:13:35,820 you can talk about a decline in support for the war itself. But 246 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:39,150 there is a decline in confidence that the war aims can be 247 00:13:39,150 --> 00:13:41,700 achieved because frankly, they haven't been achieved. And of 248 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:44,790 course, you know, the most unifying aim of the war is the 249 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:47,220 release of the hostages. And that's already not going to 250 00:13:47,220 --> 00:13:50,130 happen. The tragic reality is that many of the hostages have 251 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,660 already died in captivity. The Army has already assessed that 252 00:13:54,660 --> 00:13:58,590 around died, many assess that they are probably more than 30 253 00:13:58,590 --> 00:14:02,010 Out of the 134. So remaining, who are probably no longer 254 00:14:02,010 --> 00:14:06,870 alive. And every you know, at every phase of the of the 255 00:14:07,410 --> 00:14:10,830 indirect negotiations to try to release the hostages and reach a 256 00:14:10,830 --> 00:14:14,910 ceasefire to in return for a ceasefire there. The hopes of 257 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:17,760 the families are raised and then dashed and this is a torturous 258 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,330 process. 259 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,210 Adam Curry: They're dead, Jim, they're all dead. Bibi given up 260 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,470 another potential 261 00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:26,250 Unknown: crisis that is looming for Netanyahu and definitely had 262 00:14:26,250 --> 00:14:28,740 when he's facing as a controversy over drafting of the 263 00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:33,510 Orthodox in Israel, for they've been exempt from conscription. 264 00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:36,930 That may be changing. And of course, this really would impact 265 00:14:36,930 --> 00:14:40,170 his coalition. How do you see that playing out? 266 00:14:40,950 --> 00:14:43,380 First of all, I wouldn't hold your breath for a mass draft of 267 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:45,600 the ultra orthodox and I should distinguish that this is a 268 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,840 matter of drafting the ultra orthodox which is different from 269 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,720 the Orthodox of these are distinct communities. The 270 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Orthodox community is essentially integrated 271 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:57,090 integrated into Israeli life. It's the isolationist ultra 272 00:14:57,090 --> 00:15:00,360 orthodox communities enjoyed a historic exemption by Ah, 273 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,300 John C Dvorak: Brooklyn nourish those guys from Universal 274 00:15:05,069 --> 00:15:07,199 Unknown: Jewish citizens going back to the beginning of 275 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:10,169 statehood and since the beginning of statehood the 276 00:15:10,199 --> 00:15:13,049 government has been unable to resolve this largely because 277 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:15,599 many I would say most coalition's and 278 00:15:15,870 --> 00:15:18,390 Adam Curry: it's the tunnel Jews John they're behind it all 279 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:19,680 they're doing it it history of 280 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Unknown: Israel depend on the parties representing those ultra 281 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,450 orthodox communities and if they force a lot, you know, some sort 282 00:15:27,450 --> 00:15:30,540 of change in the policy that would involve widespread draft 283 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:33,510 of the ultra orthodox, those small parties who leave the 284 00:15:33,510 --> 00:15:34,950 coalition and topple the government. 285 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Adam Curry: Alright, so I'm just gotta topple the government, you 286 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:43,230 know, everything's, it's a big mess. So, Danna bash, that who 287 00:15:43,230 --> 00:15:47,730 was completely read in Danna bash, who was married to a CIA 288 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:51,090 guy. So she Yeah, she's just they bring out Danna bash on 289 00:15:51,090 --> 00:15:55,860 CNN, Danna bash. She gets the exclusive with Bibi Netanyahu 290 00:15:55,860 --> 00:16:00,360 this morning. And M she just goes full bore she's 291 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,680 interrupting him. Excuse me, Mr. Prime Minister. That's not true. 292 00:16:04,950 --> 00:16:09,870 It's wrong. Nobody likes you. It's horrible. There's, there's 293 00:16:09,870 --> 00:16:13,530 protests in the street. I pulled two clips. Here. This is 294 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,530 basically what what most of the interview was. But 295 00:16:16,530 --> 00:16:19,350 Unknown: I just want to make sure that our viewers understand 296 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:24,390 that Chuck Schumer gave the big speech, but he has support. In 297 00:16:24,390 --> 00:16:27,300 many ways from the President of the United States, President 298 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:33,150 Biden is a self described Zionist. So confused, even he is 299 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:36,930 starting to distance himself from the way you are handling 300 00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:41,310 the war. He called what Schumer said a good speech. He said that 301 00:16:41,310 --> 00:16:45,330 he shared the concern of many Americans, they aren't 302 00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:48,420 criticizing Israel. They're criticizing you, you and your 303 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:52,470 right wing, coalition, right wing past you. There's 304 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:55,290 a fallacy that has been perpetrated here. Oh, and you 305 00:16:55,290 --> 00:16:57,840 should take polls, you'll have your own polls, and check 306 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,110 whether the people of Israel support the policies that I'm 307 00:17:01,110 --> 00:17:04,650 being criticized for. That is supporting the policies of going 308 00:17:04,650 --> 00:17:08,100 into Rafah destroying the quarter of the remaining Hamas 309 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:11,400 terrorist army. That's like leaving a quarter of the hammer 310 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:15,990 of the Nazi terrorist army in Germany and saying, No, we're 311 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:18,900 not going to finish the last quarter. And we're not going 312 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:21,990 into Berlin, most Israelis overwhelmingly support the 313 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:25,110 position that we have to go in. They oppose the idea of ramming 314 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:29,910 down a two state solution or a terrorist state against their 315 00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:33,090 will because they think that this is will endanger Israel's 316 00:17:33,180 --> 00:17:33,780 future. 317 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Adam Curry: Now. Danna wasn't having any of it. Her job was to 318 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:42,060 show him the money, let him know he's on notice. How do we do 319 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:44,730 that? The same way we always do it. Well, it's 320 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:47,610 Unknown: not just me, I think people of Israel who believe 321 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,470 that we have to have this resolute 322 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:56,730 being criticized. It's the way that you're prosecuting the war. 323 00:17:56,790 --> 00:17:58,920 So I'm going to get to that in one minute. But I just want to 324 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:03,390 add a little bit of sort of context to the way that the 325 00:18:03,690 --> 00:18:07,410 Biden administration is pushing back another way is that the US 326 00:18:07,410 --> 00:18:11,280 Intelligence Committee warned that quote, distrust of 327 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,200 Netanyahu is the ability to rule 328 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:17,490 Adam Curry: as he pulls out the Intel community's BB just so you 329 00:18:17,490 --> 00:18:21,180 know, the intel community is not on your side, my brother 330 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,660 Unknown: at the US intelligence community warned that quote, 331 00:18:24,660 --> 00:18:28,890 distrust Netanyahu, his ability to rule has deepened and 332 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:32,550 broadened across the public and then back to the polls. You're 333 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:37,080 talking about support for the idea of toppling Hamas? That 334 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,980 makes perfect sense. There were other polls in Israel three 335 00:18:41,010 --> 00:18:44,850 major Israeli television stations that said what Israelis 336 00:18:44,850 --> 00:18:47,130 also support our early elections. 337 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,570 Adam Curry: Oh, and he goes he's like, Oh, no, channel 12 said 338 00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:55,200 it, you know, it's I'm sure it's all spook outlets. So yeah, now 339 00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:59,070 it's possible that the call went out had BB play along with us, 340 00:18:59,070 --> 00:19:02,580 okay, they gotta get rid of this genocide Joe thing. I gotta get 341 00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:05,760 rid of this. Because it doesn't seem like he's going to do 342 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,950 anything but continue on the mission. I mean, he's just he 343 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:14,460 just being very thick headed about it. 344 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,190 John C Dvorak: It's possible you're right, that they that he 345 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:21,990 has been read in on them being read in Yeah, because what we're 346 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:25,680 witnessing here with these clips is just a performance could 347 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,640 totally be a performance. I mean, I think the genocide Joe 348 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,420 thing is a it's the proper and indecisive Biden and he does he 349 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:35,490 has to deal with it. That's the problem. 350 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:39,840 Adam Curry: Turkish radio and television piled on real hard. 351 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,550 This was good. Because they brought in a new player who we 352 00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:49,620 had not heard of before. Zakah and a new term to take children 353 00:19:49,650 --> 00:19:55,050 and chopping off the heads. His head was chopped off. Can baby's 354 00:19:55,050 --> 00:19:55,590 hands off. 355 00:19:56,670 --> 00:20:00,450 Unknown: Lies, graphic fabrications. Think gory 356 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:04,890 disinformation to manipulate public opinion. That is how 357 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,180 atrocity propaganda functions. Fully Colossus surprise cross 358 00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:13,830 border attack on October 7, Israel use this strategy to turn 359 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:17,460 the tide in its favor with the help of a group influenced by 360 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:20,040 Zionist ideologies Zionist stalker 361 00:20:21,570 --> 00:20:25,410 is interesting because it's find yourself involved in all sorts 362 00:20:25,410 --> 00:20:29,070 of allegations of essentially making up atrocity propaganda 363 00:20:29,070 --> 00:20:32,700 sort of stories about the 40 beheaded babies the mass rape, 364 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:36,300 the cutting of features from his mother's belly. All of these 365 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:38,610 things seem to have been fabricated by 366 00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:43,680 founded in the early 90s by Yehuda Mish, she's the hub Lukka 367 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,370 has the stated objective of integrating Israel's ultra 368 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:51,030 orthodox community are they headed in food typically reject 369 00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:54,450 Israeli state policies on religious grounds into the 370 00:20:54,450 --> 00:20:58,710 framework of Zionism, dubbing itself as a search and rescue 371 00:20:58,710 --> 00:21:02,880 organization. The community group consists largely of ultra 372 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,140 religious amateur volunteers who see themselves as performing the 373 00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:11,040 sacred work of saving lives and honoring the dead in accordance 374 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,850 with Jewish law. 375 00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:15,570 Adam Curry: I love atrocity propaganda. I mean, I love the 376 00:21:15,570 --> 00:21:16,830 concept. I love the term, 377 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,180 John C Dvorak: babies great term. It's 378 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:23,670 Adam Curry: a show and Xhaka Z aka the Sokka Zakah group, 379 00:21:24,150 --> 00:21:26,400 John C Dvorak: some that we've not heard ever ultra 380 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Adam Curry: orthodox. So somehow the work guys the Brooklyn dudes 381 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,230 are getting in trouble for all of this somehow. It's a mess, 382 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:38,460 but they need to do it because all they have literally all they 383 00:21:38,460 --> 00:21:45,480 have is is Harris. The so called black woman going to Planned 384 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Parenthood 385 00:21:46,110 --> 00:21:48,780 Unknown: and in the Democratic campaign, Vice President Kamala 386 00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:51,780 Harris visited an abortion clinic in Minnesota yesterday, 387 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:55,020 something no vice president or president has ever done while it 388 00:21:55,470 --> 00:21:58,380 is we should Jiang reports, the Biden Harris campaign is using 389 00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:01,770 the potential threat of losing abortion access to drive voters 390 00:22:01,770 --> 00:22:04,290 to the polls come November. We 391 00:22:04,290 --> 00:22:07,320 are facing a very serious health crisis. 392 00:22:07,470 --> 00:22:10,230 Vice President Kamala Harris visited the Planned 393 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:12,690 Adam Curry: Parenthood clinic and we need to kill more babies. 394 00:22:12,690 --> 00:22:14,370 Otherwise we'll have a health crisis. Paul, 395 00:22:14,370 --> 00:22:18,420 Unknown: Minnesota Thursday, the sixth date on her tour focusing 396 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:22,800 on fighting for reproductive freedoms. Seamus have proposed 397 00:22:22,830 --> 00:22:23,700 and passed 398 00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:27,780 Adam Curry: a stop for a second. I mean, do as you wish ladies, 399 00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:34,260 but to call it reproductive freedom is is a bit much. Let's 400 00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:36,180 just take it a bit far. Paul, 401 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:40,200 Unknown: Minnesota Thursday. The sixth date on her tour focusing 402 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,660 on fighting for reproductive freedoms 403 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,790 extremist have proposed and passed laws extremists that have 404 00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:51,750 denied women access to reproductive health care 405 00:22:51,810 --> 00:22:53,040 Adam Curry: and health care. 406 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,910 John C Dvorak: I think they should pick up the idea of that 407 00:22:56,910 --> 00:23:00,090 using this reproduction liberation. 408 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,830 Unknown: Nice nine neighboring states like North Dakota and 409 00:23:04,830 --> 00:23:09,150 South Dakota, along with several others enacted full abortion 410 00:23:09,150 --> 00:23:14,670 bans. The clinic has seen a 25% surge in abortion cases and a 411 00:23:14,670 --> 00:23:19,170 100% increase in patients from out of state it is 412 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,890 dangerous and it is putting my patients and healthcare 413 00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:24,840 providers at severe risk. 414 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,030 Starting with its first joint rally back in January extremists 415 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:34,200 are trying to pass a national abortion. The Biden Harris 416 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,830 campaign has put reproductive rights front and center of the 417 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:44,310 presidential election. 57% of Americans and 62% of women say 418 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:48,630 the overturning of Roe v. Wade nearly two years ago was mostly 419 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:53,040 bad for the country. Donald Trump has touted his role in 420 00:23:53,070 --> 00:23:57,690 reversal establishing the Supreme Court responsible but 421 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,630 if it weren't for me with Roe v. Wade, you wouldn't even be 422 00:24:00,630 --> 00:24:01,710 talking about this but 423 00:24:01,710 --> 00:24:06,750 says he's undecided on a 15 week national abortion ban that some 424 00:24:06,750 --> 00:24:08,490 Republicans support 425 00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:11,430 you have to win elections. Otherwise, you're going to be 426 00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:14,280 back where you were. So 427 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,030 John C Dvorak: that's, that's why Pence said endorsing right 428 00:24:18,030 --> 00:24:20,460 yeah, that's yeah, that's the reason why but that's not the 429 00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:21,450 way they're playing it. 430 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,360 Adam Curry: No, of course not because he tried to kill Pence 431 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:28,260 tried to hang him. Don't you know that? Shoot him on the spot 432 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,990 to do a neck shot. Kristen, Kristen Welker and Your Miche 433 00:24:34,020 --> 00:24:39,300 I'll see. I'll sindoor backed up their black female colleague, 434 00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:42,390 although she's kind of Indian, but let's just say she's a black 435 00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:43,230 woman vice president 436 00:24:43,230 --> 00:24:45,990 Unknown: Harris today became the first vice president in US 437 00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:49,080 history to publicly visit a clinic that provides abortion 438 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,530 services. That trip to Minnesota Planned Parenthood comes as the 439 00:24:52,530 --> 00:24:56,520 Biden campaign has learned more leaned more and more into the 440 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,390 abortion issue in the 2024 race. Harris spoke from The clinic 441 00:25:00,390 --> 00:25:01,800 this afternoon, take a listen. 442 00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:09,990 I'm here at this health care clinic, to uplift the work that 443 00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:11,520 is happening in Minnesota 444 00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:16,800 example of what true leadership looks like. Which is to 445 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,980 understand it is only right and fair, 446 00:25:20,130 --> 00:25:25,470 fair, that people have access to the health care they need, and 447 00:25:25,470 --> 00:25:29,550 that they have access to health care in an environment where 448 00:25:29,550 --> 00:25:31,800 they are treated with dignity. She 449 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,460 had fiery words, fire makers who are trying to free access to 450 00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:39,180 abortion. She said that it's outrageous and immoral to have 451 00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:41,940 any sort of restrictions on abortion. She said that it's 452 00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:44,640 putting women's lives at risk and that a number of women have 453 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,240 had scary and at times almost life threatening situations 454 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,000 because they were denied access to abortion care. She also 455 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,490 underscored that Planned Parenthood clinics do more than 456 00:25:53,490 --> 00:25:56,100 just provide abortions. He said that they also provide breast 457 00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:59,010 cancer screenings. They also treat fibroid tumors. So she was 458 00:25:59,010 --> 00:26:01,710 really trying to underscore that Planned Parenthood they 459 00:26:01,710 --> 00:26:03,660 Adam Curry: give you puberty blockers is a is 460 00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:06,720 Unknown: a key health care provider in community. She also 461 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,450 said that she wanted to go to Minnesota in particular because 462 00:26:09,450 --> 00:26:12,480 the states around Minnesota have been restricting abortion access 463 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,390 but that state in Minnesota their governor has actually been 464 00:26:15,390 --> 00:26:16,890 expanding abortion access. 465 00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:20,340 John C Dvorak: My goodness. And you know, when Hold on a second, 466 00:26:20,340 --> 00:26:24,600 let's just do some logic here. Yeah. Based on those scripts, 467 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:28,140 when do these health care operations, let's put it 468 00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:32,610 providers let's call them operations, health care, you 469 00:26:32,610 --> 00:26:35,310 know, mega corporations, like the ones that took over their 470 00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:38,010 goal to health care in the San Francisco Bay area of solder. 471 00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:43,350 And one other operation. When do they When do they say oh, no, 472 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:46,500 we're getting too much business. There's too much profit to be 473 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:50,880 made here. Oh, this is terrible. When does that ever what has 474 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,990 that ever happened? 475 00:26:53,550 --> 00:26:55,710 Unknown: Never. Never, never. 476 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,750 John C Dvorak: But yet, that's the clip they kind of say, well, 477 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:01,350 you we got doubled our business we that's just gonna I don't 478 00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:06,120 know it's chihuahuas was to say, okay, so yeah, it's bad. Yeah. 479 00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:07,350 Bull crap. 480 00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:10,980 Adam Curry: And of course, neither of us are women. So we 481 00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:13,410 can only speak so far on the topic, but we can 482 00:27:13,620 --> 00:27:16,350 John C Dvorak: we can speak about healthcare. Yah. Yah. Yah. 483 00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:17,220 Yah. Yah, yah. 484 00:27:18,060 --> 00:27:22,020 Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. It's crazy. It's just crazy. 485 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:27,090 Everyone's out there spun out on this one. So, I mean, that's all 486 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:29,280 they've got. They don't they don't have much they've got 487 00:27:29,310 --> 00:27:31,110 John C Dvorak: that's all they've gotten. If they've got 488 00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:33,120 common language, you can leverage that. 489 00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:35,130 Adam Curry: I don't think very I don't think they can do along 490 00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:43,380 with it. It's just not there. So yeah, so I I don't know. I don't 491 00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:46,050 know where they're gonna go. But they're trying to I mean, this 492 00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:49,290 bloodbath thing. This will be a very fine people thing. They're 493 00:27:49,290 --> 00:27:50,580 going to this will be played 494 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:53,640 John C Dvorak: worse, I think is worse. Oh, 495 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,630 Adam Curry: yeah. It's so clippable it's beautiful. It's 496 00:27:57,660 --> 00:28:02,820 this. This is one of the best they could ever have. And, yeah, 497 00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:03,750 okay, well, he's 498 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:05,070 John C Dvorak: very clickable. Yeah, 499 00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:08,880 Adam Curry: I mean, you heard it the CBS literally chopped it off 500 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,230 and I'm the axis 501 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:13,410 John C Dvorak: done grip so I can see you know, there are a 502 00:28:13,410 --> 00:28:17,460 bunch of amateurs they stink. You know who was like CBS doing 503 00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:20,160 it on purpose is really pathetic. I didn't clip 504 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,070 Adam Curry: it because it was just too long and annoying. And 505 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:27,570 it was chunk. So chunk did in from the Young Turks did an 506 00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:32,640 emergency broadcast. And he said, Now, you know, he said, I 507 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,220 gotta give this one to Trump because he wasn't talking about 508 00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:39,720 a civil war bloodbath, chump came out and said it. I was kind 509 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,890 of impressed by that. 510 00:28:42,450 --> 00:28:43,230 John C Dvorak: I'm not 511 00:28:45,090 --> 00:28:47,670 Adam Curry: know, why not? 512 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:50,310 John C Dvorak: Because, you know, it's what you're supposed 513 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:50,880 to do. 514 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:53,520 Adam Curry: Right. But But normally, you'd think he would 515 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,190 go off the rails about something like that, but he didn't. 516 00:28:57,150 --> 00:28:59,640 John C Dvorak: So yeah, he goes off the rails on other stuff. 517 00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:05,190 But he does. He does. I do have a little aside here. Okay. You 518 00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:09,810 know, we bring up the Red Book a lot. Yes, we do. And I ran into 519 00:29:09,810 --> 00:29:13,500 a clip of a clip within a clip within a clip. I think this will 520 00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:18,420 be a I got it down as a jingle and, and I'm proposing using it 521 00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:21,030 as our red book jingle. The cover 522 00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:29,190 Adam Curry: of it was red. They called it the Red Book. Okay, we 523 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:35,070 do have a red book special coming up. Yes, we do. them. Oh, 524 00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:40,140 yes. Right. We do. Because for for 24 Is your daughter's 525 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:45,000 wedding day. Yeah. And you have asked to take that show off. We 526 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,240 did have to have a meeting about it. We had a meeting. We had a 527 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,860 meeting and it went like this It 528 00:29:53,670 --> 00:29:57,930 John C Dvorak: went like this. Hey, Adam, I gotta take the day 529 00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:02,880 off because of my I was wedding. I got to be at the wedding. And 530 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,690 he goes, nuts. I was gonna take off a day and 531 00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:14,400 Adam Curry: that's exactly exactly what I said. I want to 532 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,700 point out, you know, I had asked you like, you want me to come 533 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:21,600 out for the wedding you said now just send a gift. Stay home. And 534 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,350 then yes, that's all to all. And then I would never 535 00:30:28,380 --> 00:30:29,370 John C Dvorak: do what you want. 536 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:32,460 Adam Curry: I mean, I know your boss. Oh, you said that don't 537 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:34,620 come out here. It's a pain in the ass. Do what you 538 00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:36,990 John C Dvorak: want is I'm agreeing with that part of it. 539 00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:37,740 And then so 540 00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:40,320 Adam Curry: ever since Jay asked me you guys come on I said, we 541 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,990 really can't make it. She's not she's not friendly to me 542 00:30:42,990 --> 00:30:46,200 anymore. You know normally be like, have a great Sunday. Have 543 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,180 a great day. Now there's nobody's that good. I sent the 544 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:53,970 email. Now she's mad at me. I feel like she's mad. We're so 545 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,540 we're sending a dynamite gift. If that helped, ah, if that 546 00:30:57,540 --> 00:31:04,650 helps. I'm like, oh, man, your dad told me not to come if it 547 00:31:04,650 --> 00:31:05,460 was my fault I 548 00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:08,640 John C Dvorak: didn't I didn't demand you not come I just said 549 00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:13,170 you as if it was. I just said it was at the level of world 550 00:31:13,170 --> 00:31:15,630 importance. Oh, yeah, it was I thought 551 00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:17,880 Adam Curry: what to show day you know like we got to man the 552 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,600 boats. But now now now you're taking the now you're taking it 553 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,770 off. Now. I feel super bad 554 00:31:22,770 --> 00:31:24,870 John C Dvorak: about it. But you didn't come out now. 555 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,170 Adam Curry: Let's not get too excited about stuff here. 556 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:32,160 John C Dvorak: Wasn't as though you were like oh no, I really 557 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:39,120 want to come get changed topics and come to the local stuff and 558 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,540 do a three by three about the Trump prosecutor that Fannie 559 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:44,280 Willis fiasco. Yeah, sure. 560 00:31:44,610 --> 00:31:47,100 Adam Curry: It's done both three by three. Let's do it. Everybody 561 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:51,120 gets debridement but JC Boyd we love this fairings don't refurb 562 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,420 a 563 00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:59,640 three by three. John take the big news headlines of the day 564 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,610 because we're Oh boy. We're all excited about finally Fannie 565 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:06,660 Fini, Fini, Barney, fee fi fo finally Willis. So let's see how 566 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:10,740 the big three networks news stories their flagships how they 567 00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:13,560 handle it, and if they get it all from the same source as 568 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,280 usual. 569 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:16,800 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they get it all from the same source as 570 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,090 usual story of ABC 571 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,370 Unknown: tonight a judge in Georgia giving Fulton County 572 00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:23,640 District Attorney funny witness a stark choice. She can keep 573 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040 leading the election interference case against Donald 574 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Trump only if her top prosecutor and former romantic partners 575 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,090 steps down. Trump and several of his co defendants fought to 576 00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:36,840 remove Willis, arguing she financially benefited by hiring 577 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,990 Nathan Wade. But today judge Scott McAfee ruling the 578 00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:42,750 defendants failed to meet their burden of proving that the 579 00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:46,200 district attorney acquired an actual conflict of interest. The 580 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,230 judge adding Georgia law does not permit the finding of an 581 00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:52,740 actual conflict for simply making bad choices even 582 00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:58,290 repeatedly. It's a win for the DA at a humiliating cost. Okay, 583 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,640 the judge admonishing her for a tremendous lapse in judgment and 584 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,550 criticizing her testimony as unprofessional 585 00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:08,490 if you're confused, you think I'm on trial. These people are 586 00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:11,580 on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. I'm not on 587 00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:14,100 trial, no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. 588 00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:17,070 He also rebuked Willis for a speech she gave in church 589 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:21,600 suggesting wait only came under attack because he's black. Three 590 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,800 Special Counsel. This is my right to do. Take them all the 591 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,090 same hourly rate. 592 00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:33,030 Judge McAfee said it was legally improper for Willis to cast 593 00:33:33,030 --> 00:33:36,120 racial aspersions. He also questioned her credibility on 594 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,870 the witness stand and Wade's to writing an odor of mendacity 595 00:33:39,870 --> 00:33:43,230 remains. Ultimately he determined the one time romance 596 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:46,950 created a significant appearance of impropriety. So if Willis was 597 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:50,700 to stay on the case, her ex boyfriend must go. And hours 598 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,210 later, Nathan Wade was gone, submitting his resignation, 599 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,300 saying he was doing it in the interest of democracy in 600 00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,240 dedication to the American public and to move this case 601 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,100 forward as quickly as possible. 602 00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:05,400 Adam Curry: Man what a dynamite show already we have atrocity 603 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,390 propaganda, reproductive liberation and odor of man desk 604 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,150 mendacity. I mean, this is this 605 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:14,550 John C Dvorak: is good mendacity. He's another show 606 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:15,000 title, 607 00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:18,600 Adam Curry: this beautiful now, I talked I'm doing a show on 608 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,710 Wednesday with Moe. But he said this, he said this black woman 609 00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:25,710 was so out of option she had to take it to the church and that 610 00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:29,280 and she completely he said that pastor was probably sitting 611 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,280 there going, oh, man, really? I gotta do this. I gotta let her 612 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,260 do this. So she's phony, these phony fake and she's FET 613 00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:40,830 felonious. Now there's another migrate phony, fake and 614 00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:42,390 felonious. Yeah. 615 00:34:42,810 --> 00:34:45,960 John C Dvorak: But they call her phony Willis. All right, let's 616 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,530 go to they also, by the way, there's a story that came out 617 00:34:49,530 --> 00:34:54,270 this morning that the judge may put a gag order on her after 618 00:34:54,270 --> 00:34:56,040 that church performance because 619 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,410 Adam Curry: rightly so it was it was disgusting. 620 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,610 Unknown: Let's go to NBC. He was front and center when funny 621 00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:06,030 Willis announced her criminal indictment of Donald Trump. But 622 00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:09,570 tonight Nathan Wade, the man leading the prosecution against 623 00:35:09,570 --> 00:35:12,630 the former president for allegedly trying to overturn 624 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:17,130 Georgia's 2020 election results has resigned the culmination of 625 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,060 a month long spectacle after one of Trump's co defendants Michael 626 00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:25,080 Ruhlman exposed a romantic relationship between Wade and 627 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,460 Fulton County DA Fani. Willis, who hired weighed on the case in 628 00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:32,940 a ruling today just got McAfee said while he did not find an 629 00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:36,240 actual conflict of interest in the case, he did find a 630 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,720 significant appearance of impropriety that infects the 631 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,050 current structure of the prosecution team and Dave Willis 632 00:35:43,050 --> 00:35:47,700 and ultimatum either she and her office leave the case or Wade. 633 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,630 In a letter Wade writes today he's resigning to move this case 634 00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:55,530 forward as quickly as possible for Willis. Today's ruling is a 635 00:35:55,530 --> 00:36:00,030 legal victory but a professional blow following this stunning two 636 00:36:00,030 --> 00:36:06,780 hour testimony. Judge Scott McAfee scolding what he called 637 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:10,530 her unprofessional manner on the stand again, while not 638 00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:14,100 dismissing the case outright as the defense had asked McAfee 639 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,880 takes Willis to task over quote, this tremendous lapse in 640 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,530 judgment. What 641 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:21,960 Adam Curry: I found interesting is that the judge, I mean, I 642 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,900 didn't hear but I guess he gave her an app, there was a choice. 643 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:30,090 Either you resign or Wade resigns, and I think she just, I 644 00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:33,510 mean, she really signed your death warrant by not resigning. 645 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,960 Because this he had been he added all this extra stuff, all 646 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,810 these extra hearings, which of course is great for the media. 647 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,230 They'll just keep going on and on and on until this woman will 648 00:36:43,230 --> 00:36:46,950 be beaten down. She's not gonna make you're not gonna make it 649 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:48,900 through this. And 650 00:36:49,170 --> 00:36:51,390 John C Dvorak: she definitely doesn't have the wherewithal but 651 00:36:51,450 --> 00:36:54,480 she might do better. I have seen another clip of after this one 652 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,420 that might indicate she can do better than you think. 653 00:36:58,770 --> 00:37:02,040 Unknown: CBS Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee gave District 654 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,520 Attorney Fani Willis an ultimatum today either step 655 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,660 aside from the 2020 elections version case or Heather former 656 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:13,380 romantic partner, special prosecutor Nathan Wade withdraw 657 00:37:13,710 --> 00:37:16,890 within hours wait tendered his resignation effective 658 00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:20,370 immediately to move this case forward. The former president 659 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,090 hailed the move on truth social calling weighed a disgrace. The 660 00:37:24,090 --> 00:37:26,970 judge's ruling found Trump and the CO defendants that filed the 661 00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:29,250 complaint against Willison weight failed to prove a 662 00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:33,090 conflict of interest. There was no evidence according to McAfee 663 00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:35,640 that will is financially benefited from her roughly a 664 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:38,700 year long relationship with weight, which included trips to 665 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:42,180 the Caribbean and California. But the ruling did note a 666 00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:46,080 significant appearance of impropriety. McAfee was sharply 667 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,830 critical of Willis's behavior, citing a lapse in judgment and 668 00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:52,080 calling her conduct during a hearing last month, 669 00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:55,410 unprofessional. Don't be cute with me and then think that 670 00:37:55,410 --> 00:37:56,400 you're not going to get an answer. 671 00:37:56,670 --> 00:38:00,300 From time to time you see judges wax a bit poetic in their 672 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:02,790 opinions. He could have just said I think there's a lot of 673 00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:06,780 lying going on here. But instead he described it in more colorful 674 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:07,710 terms and 675 00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:10,890 he invokes southern playwright Tennessee Williams by writing 676 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,560 and odor of mendacity remains. 677 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,530 Adam Curry: Oh, is that a Tennessee Williams line? 678 00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:17,520 According 679 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,820 John C Dvorak: to them? Interesting. I think it was from 680 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:25,560 one of his plays. So there's this So Steve, who got me these 681 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:31,080 clips from the tinfoil hat of the Jones collective. You have 682 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,250 the Jones collected the tinfoil hat clip for him and would Brad 683 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,620 Binkley. These are interesting. This is a clip about Fannie 684 00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:41,940 Willis's background. 685 00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:44,370 Unknown: And they were very, very close. She she met she 686 00:38:44,370 --> 00:38:46,950 lives with her he talked about that in an interview I saw. I 687 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:49,860 mean, you look at this one here. So he was arrested. They're 688 00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:54,120 talking about an arrest that him and his group, the FBI raided 689 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,110 number something they had a 27 page booklet called a high tide 690 00:38:58,110 --> 00:39:01,200 of black resistance. And the opening paragraph of that book 691 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,330 says this. The year 1967 marked a historic milestone in the 692 00:39:06,330 --> 00:39:09,750 struggle and the and that year, that revolutionaries throughout 693 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:13,200 the world began to understand more fully the impact of the 694 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,920 black movement, our liberation will only come when, when there 695 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:23,670 is final destruction of this mad octopus, the the capitalistic 696 00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:26,580 system of the United States with all of its life sucking 697 00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:29,760 tentacles of exploitation or racism that shows the people of 698 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,060 Africa, Asia and Latin America. This is Fanny Willis, the woman 699 00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:35,130 in charge of the Fulton County District Attorney's office, his 700 00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:37,890 father, you read this book called The organizational 701 00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:42,600 weapon, the Bolshevik strategy, and they have the communist 702 00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:45,540 attempts for power when they're outside of they don't have 703 00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:49,320 institutional power. They do shit like like he did. But then 704 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,440 you have when they're in power, which they shed their communist 705 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,660 colors and they co opt organizations and they filled 706 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:57,990 them with their own people to take over. So Fanny, in my 707 00:39:57,990 --> 00:40:01,110 opinion, is doing what her father did and this 60s except 708 00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:04,590 with the power of the judicial system in Fulton County. 709 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:08,670 Adam Curry: Wow. So first of all, I have to say you cannot be 710 00:40:08,670 --> 00:40:11,910 responsible for the sins of your father, but she might have been 711 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,680 trained. Yeah, 712 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,530 John C Dvorak: definitely. He was a member of the students, 713 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,190 Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, which in that during 714 00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:27,360 that era was called snick. And it was the one that may Stokely 715 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,080 Carmichael super famous to the point where the FBI was looking 716 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,900 at him. He felt he was there's going to be an assassination 717 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:37,440 attempt on his life. And he moved to Africa changed his name 718 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,820 to Kwame something or other and he's never returned. Wow. Well, 719 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:46,110 that is a very charismatic character, Stokely Carmichael. 720 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:47,220 You can people. This is 721 00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:49,680 Adam Curry: the this is the tinfoil hat podcast that we're 722 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,580 listening to here. 723 00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:52,140 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's what it's 724 00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:56,220 Adam Curry: 757. I want to give Wheeling of props here because 725 00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:57,270 it's good. Yeah, 726 00:40:57,270 --> 00:41:01,200 John C Dvorak: it's so he goes on his part to the fan. He was 727 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,430 but but this guy Floyd was Fanny Willis's dad, who was a member 728 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:07,830 of snick, I guess he was originally a Black Panther. And 729 00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:12,360 he gave up on them and snick became a big deal. And he was in 730 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,140 the Atlanta area. So this is a this is a local group. From 731 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:17,580 here, they know what they're talking about. It's not a 732 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,080 carpetbagger, by any means. She, she's a local communist. 733 00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:24,600 Basically, it's play part two. So she 734 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,210 Unknown: talks about the cash that she used to pay she always, 735 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,910 always keep tacking 50,000 cash. 736 00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:34,230 Adam Curry: That to me was like that. I mean, have you ever had 737 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:37,650 $15,000 in cash in your house ever in your life? 738 00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:40,830 Unknown: That's pretty high. Yeah, because my daddy taught me 739 00:41:40,830 --> 00:41:43,530 to do that. Well, the reason her dad was always keeping cash on 740 00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:46,860 this because it was the FBI at the time, because he was one of 741 00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:49,590 the leaders of the Black Panthers. And then they changed 742 00:41:49,590 --> 00:41:51,870 the name of his group because it got into a conflict. It was like 743 00:41:51,870 --> 00:41:55,470 the, the non vacuum or the exact name of it, but it's it's 744 00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:57,930 basically the Black Panthers with a different name that he 745 00:41:57,930 --> 00:42:01,050 led. And he ran out, ran around with Angela Davis, the communist 746 00:42:01,050 --> 00:42:05,460 all the time. And he so he appears he was teaching his 747 00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:08,430 daughter to have untraceable money is what he's doing and 748 00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:11,850 nobody brings that up. Like, that's as a boy, I'd be like, so 749 00:42:11,850 --> 00:42:14,400 you're saying that your dad taught you to keep your money 750 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,070 untraceable because he needed to be untraceable when he was 751 00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:21,180 running from the FBI. Unbelievable. To nobody brings 752 00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:22,260 that up. And so 753 00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:25,320 Adam Curry: is that the sidekick? Unbelievable. 754 00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:32,100 Unknown: Unbelievable dude, when he was running from the FBI, 755 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,260 believable to nobody brings that up. And so her dad is mentioned, 756 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:40,380 I'll just show you this because it's, let's see nice things that 757 00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:44,940 kind of makes it real. Like this is a congressional hearing from 758 00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:51,900 1969. About riots and some other shit that they mentioned her dad 759 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:56,010 over and like dozens of times, and this year talks about a bank 760 00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:59,280 account for the SNCC, which is that offset group of the Black 761 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,610 Panthers that was opened in February 1968. And it was opened 762 00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:06,720 under the names of John Floyd which is Fannie wells, his dad 763 00:43:06,810 --> 00:43:10,530 and Angela why Davis is the famous communist who was the 764 00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:13,560 first woman on the FBI is most a wanderlust. 765 00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:17,340 Adam Curry: I just want to say, this is what we have the best 766 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:20,220 producers for the best podcasts and university. What I like 767 00:43:20,220 --> 00:43:22,860 about the Jones brothers Collective is that lots of 768 00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:26,250 people send me rumble videos like hey, look at this five 769 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:30,000 hours is great, explains everything. But yes, but you 770 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,750 know, to pull out two clips, that's very helpful, at least 771 00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:37,260 give me time codes or something. That's really helpful because 772 00:43:37,350 --> 00:43:41,310 yeah, this is what you want from a local podcast. Man. I'm glad 773 00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:45,420 somebody invented that of local podcast. That gives you some 774 00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:49,050 local flavor. That really puts everything into a different 775 00:43:49,050 --> 00:43:51,180 light. That's that's very interesting. I like it. 776 00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:54,450 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I had no idea that she was No, I mean, 777 00:43:54,750 --> 00:44:00,810 the media covers this up. What of course, rhyming is it with 778 00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:04,320 today's clips? The ones about with Trump saying bloodbath. 779 00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:08,100 Yeah. It's It's enough to make your blood pressure go up, 780 00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:13,320 because it's so disturbing. It's so manipulative, and they think 781 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,490 they can get away with it. 782 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,190 Adam Curry: Well, can I can I do my little presentation about 783 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:20,610 tick tock then talking about manipulative media? I'm, 784 00:44:20,670 --> 00:44:24,360 John C Dvorak: I can Yes, I've done this. Okay. So Fannie 785 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,850 Willis is a communist. That's all I wanted to get out of the 786 00:44:26,850 --> 00:44:27,570 way. There you go. 787 00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:31,440 Adam Curry: There you go. Just a little update on the TIC tock 788 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,130 crack mouth 789 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,040 Unknown: today on Capitol Hill tick tock CEO held private 790 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,860 meetings and made a public place but I haven't heard 791 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:43,530 exactly what we've done in this country, is going to impact 170 792 00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:44,400 million Americans. 793 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,420 He's personally attempting to stop a possible ban after the 794 00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:51,750 House passed a bill on Wednesday that would mandate tick tock 795 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:54,930 separate from its Chinese parent company. It wouldn't have to 796 00:44:54,930 --> 00:44:58,920 sell to a US buyer to avoid a ban. Today former Treasury 797 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,980 Secretary and the Trump administration, Stephen Minuchin 798 00:45:01,980 --> 00:45:03,510 says he wants to buy it, 799 00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:06,690 I understand that technology, it's a great business and I'm 800 00:45:06,690 --> 00:45:09,660 gonna put together a group to buy Tiktok you're trying to buy 801 00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:13,860 tickets I am because it should be owned by a US, US businesses. 802 00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:14,640 But that may 803 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,640 not even be possible. Let's say all of these things come 804 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,810 together at a sale is poised. The Chinese government could 805 00:45:21,810 --> 00:45:27,150 very well stop it. It's unclear if the algorithm is something 806 00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:30,390 that could even be exported to another country. Okay. 807 00:45:30,930 --> 00:45:34,410 Adam Curry: So that's, that's kind that's kind of just a 808 00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:36,990 little background on where we are with the mainstream media. 809 00:45:37,530 --> 00:45:41,130 Unbelievably, The New York Times published New York Times 810 00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:45,540 publishes an article that says, you know, this is bullcrap. 811 00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:48,570 They're not really collecting any data, like oh, you have my 812 00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:53,700 attention. Now, just to reiterate, the OG theory on this 813 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,850 is this is Google. He was co introduced by Gallagher 814 00:45:56,850 --> 00:45:59,820 Republican from I want to say Kentucky camera where he's from. 815 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,550 And one of his biggest donors is Google. The Google has a lot 816 00:46:05,550 --> 00:46:09,600 they have share price problems. They there they failed with AI 817 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,550 launch. And Tik Tok is eating their video advertising lunch, 818 00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:17,520 there's just no two ways about it. You know, everyone's trying 819 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,940 to emulate it. Obviously, Mehta is doing okay with the Facebook 820 00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:26,730 product and Instagram and they have some reels, which is 821 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,750 basically repurpose Tik Tok videos. But Tik Tok is the 822 00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:34,140 crack, that everybody loves it, you just boom, boom, boom, boom, 823 00:46:34,140 --> 00:46:39,120 boom, you're just scrolling through it. And mainly the 824 00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:43,110 sophisticated algo is just what are you like, I'm gonna give you 825 00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:45,960 more of that. I'm not gonna throw any interruptive stuff in 826 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,810 there that there's no comp that this comments, but no one cares 827 00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:52,350 about comments. We're just there to look at the stuff that we 828 00:46:52,350 --> 00:46:55,620 want over and over again, and Google can't stand it. 829 00:46:56,610 --> 00:47:00,540 John C Dvorak: I have to mention this. Just as an aside, it's 830 00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:06,960 interesting to me how Instagram has, Twitter is comments. 831 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,380 Everything else is secondary. And then you go to Instagram, 832 00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:13,440 and it's mostly photos and maybe an introductory paragraph 833 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,140 because the comments are minor, but there and it's tricky. It's 834 00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:20,910 just tricks and people respond to the comments. Tik Tok is 835 00:47:20,910 --> 00:47:24,210 common. I mean, there's tons of comments, but I don't I never 836 00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:27,810 look at him to it's almost like it's they've taken the model and 837 00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:31,590 they just moved it to like, just give you instead of cocaine 838 00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:32,400 crack. 839 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:38,940 Adam Curry: Yeah. Or, or, as Dan Crenshaw know, Mike Pence called 840 00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:44,520 it digital fentanyl, my parents digital fentanyl. Okay. So we're 841 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,990 just gonna sit killed. We're just gonna stick with that, that 842 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,760 this is Silicon Valley, mainly Google trying to get rid of one 843 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,060 of their main competitors. And they saddled up these you know, 844 00:47:57,060 --> 00:48:01,710 these dudes, by the way, it doesn't really look like there's 845 00:48:01,710 --> 00:48:06,300 that much going to happen. Have a note here from one of our 846 00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:10,350 producers, whose company just might happen to be building a 847 00:48:10,350 --> 00:48:16,200 data center for some, some outfit called tick tock or byte 848 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,670 dance as hundreds of millions of dollars involved. And work has 849 00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:25,260 not stopped. So it certainly is not. Doesn't look like tick tock 850 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,010 is too worried about stuff because the deal is signed. And 851 00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:31,980 they continue to do that. And just as a quick aside from 852 00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:36,360 another producer, who said last in this discussion of the so 853 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,110 called tick tock ban, how about other technologies that are 854 00:48:40,110 --> 00:48:44,580 owned by Chinese firms, the educational technology apps, 855 00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:48,750 Class Dojo, a very popular one where my child's school forces 856 00:48:48,750 --> 00:48:53,040 us to use that recently completed a series D funding 857 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,290 round which is led by Tencent. This is a lot of this a lot of 858 00:48:58,290 --> 00:49:03,330 stuff that is influential on our children that is owned by 859 00:49:03,330 --> 00:49:06,600 Chinese companies. But now this is just we don't care about 860 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,400 that. There's no advertising money there is anyway to the New 861 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,910 York Times has this article by Julia Angwin. And Julie Angwin. 862 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:27,750 She is the founder CEO and editor in chief of homeless 863 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:36,660 second it's called Proof news proof news proof news. And she 864 00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:41,940 is a New York Times contributing opinion writer and so she 865 00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:46,770 founded this outfit proof knows proof news which is a nonprofit 866 00:49:46,770 --> 00:49:50,970 but if you look at proof News, I'm looking here now they have 867 00:49:51,150 --> 00:49:55,110 two articles. Literally two articles. They said they've just 868 00:49:55,110 --> 00:49:58,920 been started just been spun up the both articles from February 869 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:04,500 27 2020 Before interestingly, not the article about tick tock 870 00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:09,570 now she wrote that for the New York Times, and I'm going to 871 00:50:09,570 --> 00:50:14,820 submit to you that tick tock is very busy, they have put a lot 872 00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:19,620 of money into lobbyists. We know they have this, there's no doubt 873 00:50:19,830 --> 00:50:24,600 they're fighting back. And they have hired this Julia Angwin 874 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:31,140 lady, and I dug down into it. So this proof news is actually a 875 00:50:31,140 --> 00:50:38,220 project of aspiration. But aspiration tech.org, which is 876 00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:42,540 pretty much a services firm, that will help you with your 877 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:47,400 nonprofit, you'll we can help you with all kinds of training, 878 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,720 we can do it now, it seems like this is one of these outfits 879 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:56,760 that you can hire to go do stuff. So somehow this lady gets 880 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,940 into the New York Times, and then on the media decides to 881 00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:03,300 interview her. And I think that we can hear throughout these few 882 00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:08,010 clips. But this is not news. This is not analysis. This is 883 00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:11,910 tiktoks Money, downplaying everything that has been said 884 00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:16,440 about them and fighting back against the Google lobby 885 00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:18,840 Unknown: Writing in The New York Times this week, tech journalist 886 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,550 Julia Angwin, founder of the new outlet proof news, argued this 887 00:51:23,550 --> 00:51:26,190 legislation wouldn't really address concerns around 888 00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:30,210 misinformation, national security or data privacy. And in 889 00:51:30,210 --> 00:51:34,770 fact, she doesn't find claims about tic TOCs unique power as a 890 00:51:34,770 --> 00:51:37,020 propaganda tool, all that convincing, 891 00:51:37,230 --> 00:51:40,590 the Office of the Director of National Intelligence put out a 892 00:51:40,590 --> 00:51:44,520 threat assessment report in February, and said that tick 893 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,110 tock accounts run by a Chinese propaganda arm, were targeting 894 00:51:49,110 --> 00:51:52,170 candidates from both political parties during the US midterm 895 00:51:52,170 --> 00:51:56,130 election cycle and 2022. Now, that sounds a little bit scary, 896 00:51:56,130 --> 00:52:00,660 but the reality is that anyone can set up an account on Tiktok, 897 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,720 to, quote, target a candidate. This is exactly what the 898 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,960 Russians did in 2016, when they set up accounts on Facebook to 899 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,750 try to influence the US elections. And they didn't have 900 00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:12,240 to buy Facebook to do that. Right? They actually paid in 901 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,960 rubles Facebook didn't notice. And it's also worth noting that 902 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,650 that threat assessment from the National Intelligence Director 903 00:52:19,890 --> 00:52:22,920 does not say that tiktoks algorithm promoted those 904 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,430 accounts, I'm guessing that if they had evidence of that, they 905 00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:29,280 would have stayed at it. So I think the thing that we 906 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,820 basically can learn from this is that whatever evidence they 907 00:52:32,820 --> 00:52:35,490 have, they're not sharing it or they don't have it 908 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,040 Adam Curry: go there's no evidence. So she comes out of 909 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,250 the gate with there's no evidence now nice. You'll start 910 00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:45,690 to hear some laugh tells here and there. And by the way, I'm 911 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:49,020 I'm not disagreeing with what she says I don't think that tick 912 00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:53,100 tock The Tick Tock app spies any more than any other of these of 913 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:56,340 these social media, as well, thank you say 914 00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:59,010 Unknown: more about the data privacy concern, what are they 915 00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:01,920 collecting? How could it be misused? Has it already been 916 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,360 misused, tick, 917 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,570 tock, as far as most people can tell, collects pretty much the 918 00:53:06,570 --> 00:53:08,820 same types of data that every other app on your phone 919 00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:11,790 collects, which is, where you are, what kind of device you're 920 00:53:11,790 --> 00:53:14,550 accessing it from, how often you're using it for how long 921 00:53:14,550 --> 00:53:17,670 you're on. And then while you're in the app, what kind of content 922 00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:20,850 you're looking at, there have been data abuses at all of these 923 00:53:20,850 --> 00:53:24,960 companies, both Microsoft and Google have been found to 924 00:53:24,990 --> 00:53:28,290 promote their own products over those of their competitors. 925 00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:29,670 Employees had gotten 926 00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:33,960 Adam Curry: out. She now she she highlights Microsoft and Google. 927 00:53:34,830 --> 00:53:37,560 The interesting that she highlights Microsoft, maybe it's 928 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:43,050 a Microsoft and Google lobby that are going after tick tock. 929 00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:46,530 But then you She ends this this sentence with a really odd opt 930 00:53:46,530 --> 00:53:47,160 talk. 931 00:53:48,750 --> 00:53:52,650 Unknown: People have been found to promote their own products 932 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,790 over those of their competitors. And please help me good gone in 933 00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:59,640 looked at personal data and tried to figure out things about 934 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,460 their ex girlfriends or whatever. As we all know, from 935 00:54:02,580 --> 00:54:06,270 looking at the privacy policies. Basically, all of them say we 936 00:54:06,270 --> 00:54:08,700 can do whatever we want with your data. So we don't really 937 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:12,000 know what is going to happen with our user data. You've 938 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,330 pointed 939 00:54:12,330 --> 00:54:17,010 out that even if tick tock is sharing data from American users 940 00:54:17,010 --> 00:54:19,620 with the Chinese government, which the company says it's not, 941 00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:23,130 the data might not be as consequential as its critics 942 00:54:23,130 --> 00:54:23,580 fear. 943 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,770 What's interesting about tick tock because they don't actually 944 00:54:25,770 --> 00:54:29,880 have as much as maybe a Facebook or Google because they don't 945 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,240 actually have a lot of personal information on your friends. 946 00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:36,960 Like usually people don't upload their address book. It really is 947 00:54:36,990 --> 00:54:40,200 about what video we watched how long you watch it for. 948 00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:44,220 Adam Curry: Okay, so she has she's very read in on what tick 949 00:54:44,220 --> 00:54:47,820 tock is doing and now now she's gonna joke about how ridiculous 950 00:54:47,820 --> 00:54:51,120 it all really is, which again, I'm not disagreeing with but 951 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,750 this is very off color for a New York Times article. 952 00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,060 Unknown: Well, what does tick tock know about you? Well, 953 00:54:57,060 --> 00:55:01,440 tick tock knows, unfortunately, that I watch Too many cooking 954 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,590 videos and too many makeup tutorials Unfortunately, 955 00:55:04,890 --> 00:55:08,340 Adam Curry: yes, she's he's personalizing This is she's 956 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,550 definitely all tick tock knows I watch too many cooking videos 957 00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:13,140 and makeup tips. 958 00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:16,620 John C Dvorak: She's the one who just she admitted it in, in 959 00:55:16,620 --> 00:55:19,860 public. So why is it unfortunate that Tiktok knows. 960 00:55:21,930 --> 00:55:24,480 Adam Curry: John, she's she's a PR agent. 961 00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:27,570 John C Dvorak: She's had some some she's, yeah, PR 962 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,500 Unknown: too many cooking videos and too many makeup tutorials, 963 00:55:31,530 --> 00:55:32,520 they're going to take you down. 964 00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:38,340 It's possible that this is one reason I'm not that worried. I'm 965 00:55:38,340 --> 00:55:41,070 just like, You know what, or maybe because I'm getting paid. 966 00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:42,690 Good luck. I don't know what you're gonna do with this 967 00:55:42,690 --> 00:55:45,270 information about my love of cheesecakes. And 968 00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:48,300 as you've pointed out, even if Tik Tok, let's say just vanished 969 00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:52,440 from the app stores overnight China or anyone for that matter, 970 00:55:52,620 --> 00:55:57,390 could buy oodles of pretty granular personal data that are 971 00:55:57,390 --> 00:56:00,240 routinely hoovered up by American tech companies, and 972 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:03,570 then sold into the Data Broker marketplace. 973 00:56:03,870 --> 00:56:07,350 You can buy all sorts of things, there was a really shocking 974 00:56:07,350 --> 00:56:10,950 story about a Muslim prayer app. Just turns out the Defense 975 00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:13,980 Department was buying the data from that app in order to track 976 00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:17,190 the location of Muslims in the United States. So we have 977 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,660 definitely seen governments not just China using these data 978 00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:24,180 brokers to get information that they would otherwise have a hard 979 00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:25,470 time getting ahold of. I mean, 980 00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:28,110 Adam Curry: she's really laying out there's not a single thing 981 00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:30,750 tick tock is doing nothing wrong here. Nothing. There's nothing 982 00:56:30,750 --> 00:56:33,330 wrong than not doing a single thing wrong. In fact, other 983 00:56:33,330 --> 00:56:35,940 companies are much worse. They're responsible for death. 984 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,210 Can 985 00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:39,000 Unknown: you give us a laundry list of some of the abhorrent 986 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,480 practices from social media companies just to help us 987 00:56:42,510 --> 00:56:45,960 understand who tiktoks peers are? Yeah, 988 00:56:46,170 --> 00:56:52,620 I'll start with genocide, was accused of enabling a genocide 989 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,930 in Myanmar where the government essentially blanketed Facebook 990 00:56:57,930 --> 00:57:02,730 with lies about a minority population and incited violence 991 00:57:02,730 --> 00:57:07,080 against them. We've seen Facebook enabling just hate 992 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,950 speech. I wrote a story years ago about how Facebook had a 993 00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:14,820 category that advertisers could choose from called Jew haters, 994 00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:17,550 where you could just literally target your ad to people who 995 00:57:17,550 --> 00:57:21,780 hate Jews. Anyone who opens up a website formerly known as 996 00:57:21,810 --> 00:57:26,130 Twitter. Now X can see all sorts of examples of misinformation 997 00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:29,250 and disinformation sometimes being promoted by the owner of 998 00:57:29,250 --> 00:57:32,790 the site. So you know, it goes on and on. It's a cesspool is 999 00:57:32,790 --> 00:57:33,420 what I'm saying. 1000 00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:37,140 Adam Curry: Okay, lady, you are not a journalist. You are full 1001 00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:42,240 of crap. You're being paid by the lobby for pro Tik Tok, and 1002 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,030 she brings it home here in this final clip, you may have heard 1003 00:57:45,390 --> 00:57:49,920 that Tiktok sent out emails to all their users, and depending 1004 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,250 on your geographic location, they gave you the phone number 1005 00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:56,760 of your representative in Congress to go call and complain 1006 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,880 about a you're trying to take down my Tiktok man, that's no 1007 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:04,260 good. And here is where she it all falls apart lifestyles, and 1008 00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:06,630 then she predicts that something will happen 1009 00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:10,980 Unknown: in your near Times piece. You cited polling that 1010 00:58:10,980 --> 00:58:16,020 shows that only 31% of Americans favor a nationwide ban on Tik 1011 00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:20,790 Tok. So, if most Americans aren't behind it, why are 1012 00:58:20,790 --> 00:58:21,660 lawmakers? 1013 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,790 I mean, unfortunately, the gap between where Americans are and 1014 00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:31,410 where lawmakers are, is wide on a lot of issues. It's 72% of 1015 00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:34,890 Americans want more government regulation of what companies can 1016 00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:38,100 do with their data that hasn't spurred Congress to act. There's 1017 00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:42,090 wide popular support for gun control, abortion access, etc, 1018 00:58:42,090 --> 00:58:45,240 that remain unaddressed. At the federal level, government 1019 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,630 policies in the US are increasingly not reflective of 1020 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:52,500 public opinion. Unfortunately, I think one thing that's happening 1021 00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:55,200 right now is that people were not kind of aware of this was 1022 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,850 coming. And so it passed really quickly and constituents didn't 1023 00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:04,050 have a chance to mobilize. But people are aware and are 1024 00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:06,600 mobilizing and so I think the Senate offices are gonna get 1025 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,050 flooded with a lot of really angry people because the reality 1026 00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:13,620 is it's a real marketplace of small businesses. And so I think 1027 00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:16,770 it'll be interesting to see if the Senate passes it because I 1028 00:59:16,770 --> 00:59:19,290 think it actually could be politically unwise in an 1029 00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:22,050 election year to piss off this many constituents. 1030 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,310 Adam Curry: Literally the talking points of the CEO node 1031 00:59:26,310 --> 00:59:30,240 enables small business I think people might get angry and flood 1032 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,600 the offices get your company probably you know, this 1033 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,250 aspiration probably sent out the emails This is that the New York 1034 00:59:38,250 --> 00:59:41,580 Times and NPR is on the media got hoodwinked by this is 1035 00:59:41,580 --> 00:59:43,380 unbelievable, or did they 1036 00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:47,040 John C Dvorak: hear all part of it? You know, I'm looking at 1037 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,510 this woman's background for one thing, she looks like a desk 1038 00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:52,500 jockey spook? 1039 00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:56,580 Adam Curry: Yes, of course. I've seen it. Nice hair. 1040 00:59:57,510 --> 01:00:00,690 John C Dvorak: Yeah. She has that cool. Quality of and she's 1041 01:00:00,690 --> 01:00:03,240 been all over the place she's and she's one of one of those 1042 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,390 group Pulitzers which are popular nowadays. You're part of 1043 01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:09,600 a team, you win a Pulitzer. She's got a bunch of other 1044 01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:13,080 interesting Awards. She went from the Wall Street Journal, to 1045 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:18,990 pro publica. She joined up some new operation called the markup, 1046 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:22,440 which I don't know what the hell happened to that. And then she 1047 01:00:22,890 --> 01:00:27,870 goes on and on. But her wiki page is one of those kinds of 1048 01:00:27,930 --> 01:00:31,650 what I call a spooky page, because it's missing the kind of 1049 01:00:31,650 --> 01:00:35,790 fundamentals that should be there. We know that she has, 1050 01:00:35,850 --> 01:00:39,210 she's married with a child and the screwy thing and they put 1051 01:00:39,210 --> 01:00:41,760 this in when you put something weird in like does, I'm gonna 1052 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,740 read something off this wiki page, which is screwy. It's a 1053 01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:49,710 family Angwin lives in New York City with her husband and two 1054 01:00:49,710 --> 01:00:54,390 children. And listen to this. Why would you put this in there? 1055 01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:57,150 And why would you notice and why would this happen? Her daughter 1056 01:00:57,150 --> 01:01:01,050 started a cryptography business as a middle school student 1057 01:01:01,170 --> 01:01:05,970 called Diceware passwords, focused on selling secure hand 1058 01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:09,240 written passwords. Wow. 1059 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,130 Adam Curry: That's just weird. That's just weird. 1060 01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:17,280 John C Dvorak: So I mean, there's code in 1061 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,830 Adam Curry: here on her own on her own website. I'm just 1062 01:01:19,830 --> 01:01:26,160 reading now listen to this. From 2000 to 2013, she was a reporter 1063 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,190 at The Wall Street Journal, where she lived a she led a 1064 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:34,710 privacy investigative team that was a finalist finalist for a 1065 01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:39,330 Pulitzer Prize in explanatory reporting. And she won a Garo, a 1066 01:01:39,330 --> 01:01:45,090 Gerald lube award, Globe blue globe, tomato tomahto, she was 1067 01:01:45,090 --> 01:01:47,580 on a team of reporters, the Wall Street Journal that was awarded 1068 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:49,830 the Pulitzer Prize and explanatory reporting for 1069 01:01:49,830 --> 01:01:53,040 coverage of corporate corruption. Ah, author of The 1070 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,620 New York Times best seller dragnet nation a quest for 1071 01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:58,560 privacy, security and freedom in a world of relentless 1072 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:03,450 surveillance, except for tick tock. She didn't she I mean, 1073 01:02:03,450 --> 01:02:04,860 she. Anyway, 1074 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,130 John C Dvorak: she also was in 1996, you worked for the 1075 01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:13,440 Chronicle as a tech reporter. And since I was in that scene, 1076 01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:19,170 in 96, it was four years before they collapsed. You never heard 1077 01:02:19,170 --> 01:02:19,530 of her 1078 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,410 Adam Curry: during the scene, man. Something's 1079 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,210 John C Dvorak: up. Yes. 1080 01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:30,030 Adam Curry: Oh, goodness. All right. I'd like to move over to 1081 01:02:30,030 --> 01:02:35,310 the Boeing versus Airbus war. That continues or it may it may 1082 01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:36,180 just be I 1083 01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:39,660 John C Dvorak: actually made clips. I have some clips. I did 1084 01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:43,050 do latest Of course. Was it yesterday? Maybe four? I 1085 01:02:43,050 --> 01:02:44,700 Adam Curry: haven't. I haven't the pet. 1086 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,450 John C Dvorak: Mimi says something to me about this. Oh, 1087 01:02:48,450 --> 01:02:52,770 poor Boeing. I said, Your Debt Debt jet. I'm gonna just preface 1088 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,460 what you're gonna do. That jet the other day that depends. Some 1089 01:02:56,460 --> 01:03:00,030 piece of metal fell off the bottom of it. It was yeah, it 1090 01:03:00,030 --> 01:03:05,580 was an old 21 An old Boeing 737. But again, the same other name 1091 01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:10,440 that nobody wants to address is united, united, United united. 1092 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,950 That guy, the company that's run by a drag queen. 1093 01:03:16,590 --> 01:03:18,930 Adam Curry: Dude in the dress. Good morning, Adam. I'd like to 1094 01:03:18,930 --> 01:03:21,060 offer you a boots on the ground report for the most recent 1095 01:03:21,060 --> 01:03:24,780 Boeing mishap that occurred on United Airlines flight 433. I'm 1096 01:03:24,780 --> 01:03:27,810 a licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer specializing in 1097 01:03:27,810 --> 01:03:30,480 composites from Scandinavia. I've been in this industry for 1098 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,180 10 years I've worked on hundreds of seven three sevens we had the 1099 01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:35,970 best producers in the universe. Needless to say I'm extremely 1100 01:03:35,970 --> 01:03:38,820 familiar with this aircraft. I've report repaired the exact 1101 01:03:38,820 --> 01:03:44,190 panel that had a quote exciting end dozens of times. And this 1102 01:03:44,190 --> 01:03:47,010 happens naturally in other aircraft as well. The fairing 1103 01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:51,690 that seemingly exploded mid flight is one of many 737 wing 1104 01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:55,740 fuselage panels that suffer from elongated holes due to excessive 1105 01:03:55,740 --> 01:03:59,730 vibration, the steel countersunk screws or fashion to the far 1106 01:03:59,730 --> 01:04:04,920 softer fiberglass emanate, which in time will vote laminate which 1107 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,100 in time will vibrate and expand the holes to point with the 1108 01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:11,070 panel will simply not be attached anymore. Once the whole 1109 01:04:11,070 --> 01:04:14,160 elongation starts. The screws which are fastened to the 1110 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,040 floating nut plates will start to erode the original hole 1111 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,130 diameter. From what I can gather from the photo in the article 1112 01:04:20,130 --> 01:04:22,500 with a Zero Hedge an excessive amount of the fasteners were 1113 01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:25,770 simply installed, but not holding the panel in place. At a 1114 01:04:25,770 --> 01:04:28,620 certain point during the flight the airflow would have lifted an 1115 01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:30,720 edge and the panel would have become a shredded massive 1116 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,590 fiberglass and Nomex Honeycomb core. I could go on further 1117 01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:37,410 about this particular accident but it simply comes down to piss 1118 01:04:37,410 --> 01:04:41,850 poor maintenance by United. Anyone with a set of eyes can 1119 01:04:41,850 --> 01:04:45,570 see a long gated holes on panels. The visual cues are 1120 01:04:45,570 --> 01:04:49,080 impossible to miss. Usually black streaks from the fastener 1121 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,780 holes follow the airstream hope this brings you some insight. 1122 01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:55,740 Yes. Shawn the candidate avian Thank you very much for your 1123 01:04:55,740 --> 01:04:58,590 boots on the ground. This is exactly right. It was hard 1124 01:04:58,590 --> 01:05:01,740 actually found one report did mention United it's 1125 01:05:01,740 --> 01:05:05,820 Unknown: another episode in the series of Boeing 737 mishaps, 1126 01:05:06,180 --> 01:05:11,700 United flight 433, which was carrying 139 passengers and six 1127 01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:15,960 crew members safely flew from San Francisco to Oregon Friday. 1128 01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:19,650 But after landing, an external panel on the plane was found 1129 01:05:19,650 --> 01:05:22,710 missing during a routine inspection before the next 1130 01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:25,770 flight, prompting an investigation by the Federal 1131 01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:30,390 Aviation Administration. The Missing panel was located on the 1132 01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:34,050 aircraft's underside where the wing meets the fuselage and 1133 01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:37,320 right next to the landing gear. The runway and airfield were 1134 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,670 checked for debris but none was found. According to the FAA, 1135 01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:45,960 this plane is part of the series preceding the max and just 25 1136 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,980 years old. The inspection follows another Boeing incident 1137 01:05:50,010 --> 01:05:53,550 earlier this week, poor plane flying from Sydney to Auckland 1138 01:05:53,550 --> 01:05:58,350 made a mid air dive injuring 50 people. Boeing has faced 1139 01:05:58,350 --> 01:06:01,530 increasing pressure over quality control in its production 1140 01:06:01,530 --> 01:06:06,660 process. After a door plug blew off a 737 Max nine jet back in 1141 01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:11,820 January. The FAA conducted 89 audits of Boeing's manufacturing 1142 01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:16,470 procedure over six weeks to find Boeing failing 33 of them with 1143 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:20,640 reports of 97 instances of non compliance with the approved 1144 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,630 manufacturing procedures. Boeing responded to the audit promising 1145 01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:27,810 changes and said it would work with employees who violated the 1146 01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:30,600 company's production rules to make sure they understand 1147 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,650 instructions clearly. 1148 01:06:31,830 --> 01:06:35,400 Adam Curry: So again, it's it's just targeting Boeing but this 1149 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,830 was as you just heard from someone who was boots on the 1150 01:06:37,830 --> 01:06:40,770 ground who does this for a living this was crappy 1151 01:06:40,770 --> 01:06:47,820 maintenance united with the with the the the CEO dude and address 1152 01:06:47,820 --> 01:06:52,200 CEO. But I mean, this is a bad look, my brother, this is not 1153 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,340 the way you want to go. This dei is coming down on you is going 1154 01:06:56,340 --> 01:06:59,670 to come down on you hard, but something with Boeing. I mean, 1155 01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:03,600 there's all I don't even know if this story is true now about the 1156 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,380 seatback that 1157 01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:07,260 Unknown: terrifying midair plunge aboard a South American 1158 01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:10,950 airliner on Sunday that injured dozens of passengers and crew 1159 01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:13,980 members. Tom Costello is where this time this may have been a 1160 01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:17,430 mishap in the cockpit. Yeah, that's one theory. Tonight 1161 01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:20,790 Boeing is telling airlines to fly the 787 to check the 1162 01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:24,120 switches that control the pilots seats because they could get 1163 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,450 stuck. The Wall Street Journal reports investigators believe a 1164 01:07:27,450 --> 01:07:30,330 flight attendant delivering a meal to the pilot may have 1165 01:07:30,330 --> 01:07:33,840 accidentally hit a switch that moves the pilot seat forward 1166 01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:37,800 that could have pushed the pilot into his controls forcing the 1167 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,910 nose of a plane down and Sunday passengers flying more than 50 1168 01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:45,450 injured sold with broken bones. In a statement Boeing says we 1169 01:07:45,450 --> 01:07:48,510 are recommending operators airlines perform an inspection 1170 01:07:48,510 --> 01:07:51,060 at the next maintenance opportunity. This could 1171 01:07:51,060 --> 01:07:53,730 contradict what one passenger told us that the pilot 1172 01:07:53,730 --> 01:07:57,030 complained his flight computer screens when suddenly dark. 1173 01:07:57,210 --> 01:08:00,330 Importantly, investigators have not reached a final conclusion 1174 01:08:00,330 --> 01:08:03,330 about what caused this plane to do a nosedive over the ocean 1175 01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:03,750 luster. 1176 01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:06,750 Adam Curry: Alright, so the here so this is very interesting, 1177 01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:11,370 there's a toggle switch on the back of the boat seat so the 1178 01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:17,250 captain seat and it's underneath a lid a little latch to keep it 1179 01:08:17,250 --> 01:08:21,930 safe. And this is what you use when you're entering as a pilot 1180 01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:27,060 into the into the pilot seat. You can have the chair come back 1181 01:08:27,090 --> 01:08:29,700 swivels out a little bit you get in and then you can move it you 1182 01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:32,910 have the same controls on the side like like your car seat, it 1183 01:08:32,910 --> 01:08:35,310 doesn't move very fast. You know because I've looked at all the 1184 01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:39,810 videos and the theory this theory would be there in flight 1185 01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:43,200 there you know their cruise altitude, they've got the 1186 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,400 autopilot on the flight attendant comes in hands the 1187 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,720 trays puts her hand on the back of the pilot's seat, he has the 1188 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,910 tray now in front of him and the toggle switch gets activated 1189 01:08:56,910 --> 01:08:59,130 through the latch which it is not supposed to do that the 1190 01:08:59,130 --> 01:09:02,640 whole point of that latch is so it can happen automatically and 1191 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,420 it slowly moves forward pushing the yoke forward at a certain 1192 01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:10,770 point and this is I questioned this because at a certain point 1193 01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:14,610 the autopilot will disengage and whatever attitude you have the 1194 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,570 you're telling the plane to have it will assume so that would be 1195 01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:23,520 yoke push forward that would cause a an instant nosedive. But 1196 01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,180 I mean the tray didn't didn't buckle up. The trade didn't slip 1197 01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:28,830 out. I mean for this. Yeah, 1198 01:09:28,830 --> 01:09:33,540 John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, no. It's sounds like let's what can 1199 01:09:33,540 --> 01:09:37,680 we do? Let's because the other idea is a little more 1200 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,370 frightening. 1201 01:09:39,150 --> 01:09:43,500 Adam Curry: And I learned that Airbus now also got 1202 01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:48,090 John C Dvorak: that letter Yeah, Airbus have to reset all the 1203 01:09:48,090 --> 01:09:51,660 Adam Curry: time. You have to reboot the plane every 100 This 1204 01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:54,180 John C Dvorak: is none This is a crap software. 1205 01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:58,890 Adam Curry: Can you imagine that that you had to reboot your Mac 1206 01:09:59,310 --> 01:10:00,870 wait to meet you. Do I'm sorry, 1207 01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:02,010 John C Dvorak: time. 1208 01:10:05,460 --> 01:10:10,980 Adam Curry: Now, what so we've got, we've got Boeing under 1209 01:10:10,980 --> 01:10:15,720 severe stress with good reason. And I have two clips here. The 1210 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,810 first one, thank you producers, you are the best. This is a 1211 01:10:18,810 --> 01:10:25,740 local report from Charleston, South Carolina. And who and this 1212 01:10:25,740 --> 01:10:29,580 woman who is on this on this news report, she knows the 1213 01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:33,870 whistleblower. This is the whistleblower who did get 1214 01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:37,410 killed. Very stupid. You should never eat lunch in your truck, 1215 01:10:37,740 --> 01:10:43,110 in a hotel parking lot. That is a quick way to the grave. And by 1216 01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:47,280 there's a Netflix special on this guy. I mean, he he seems 1217 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:54,150 very together. This is not just some, some dude who is, you 1218 01:10:54,150 --> 01:10:57,690 know, mentally unstable. He blew the whistle on Boeing. Boeing 1219 01:10:57,690 --> 01:11:01,620 went after him. He said, Okay, come on. I'll do it. I'll fight 1220 01:11:01,620 --> 01:11:06,060 you. And here's a local report from some people who know, Rob 1221 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:06,690 Barrett, 1222 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,570 Unknown: Barnett's family friend Jennifer said they had talked 1223 01:11:09,570 --> 01:11:13,620 about this exact scenario playing out. But his words seem 1224 01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:16,860 like a premonition. He told her Don't ever believe it. 1225 01:11:17,250 --> 01:11:22,530 I knew John because his mom and my mom are best friends. And so 1226 01:11:22,530 --> 01:11:28,590 over the years, get togethers, birthdays, celebrations and 1227 01:11:29,310 --> 01:11:33,510 whatnot. We've all got together and talked. And that's how we 1228 01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:35,130 really know each other. And 1229 01:11:35,130 --> 01:11:38,520 when Jennifer needed help one day Barnett came by to see her. 1230 01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:41,700 They talked about his upcoming depositions in Charleston, 1231 01:11:41,970 --> 01:11:45,180 Jennifer new, he filed an extremely damaging complaint 1232 01:11:45,180 --> 01:11:48,780 against Boeing. He says the aerospace giant retaliated 1233 01:11:48,780 --> 01:11:53,040 against him when he blew the whistle on unsafe practices. For 1234 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,360 more than 30 years. Barnett was a quality manager. He'd recently 1235 01:11:57,390 --> 01:12:00,960 retired and moved back to look after his mom and Louisiana, 1236 01:12:01,230 --> 01:12:02,430 wasn't concerned 1237 01:12:02,430 --> 01:12:05,670 about safety, because I asked him I said, Aren't you scared? 1238 01:12:05,970 --> 01:12:14,040 And he said, his boy through the way he was scared. He said, But 1239 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:19,470 if anything happens to me, it's not suicide. You know, I know 1240 01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:24,720 that he did not commit suicide. There's no way. A love life too 1241 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,290 much. He loves his family too much. He loves his brothers too 1242 01:12:28,290 --> 01:12:32,130 much. To put them through what they're going through right now. 1243 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,370 And he basically told you not to believe it. 1244 01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:40,920 Basically, yeah, not true. He's got too much to do, like 1245 01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:45,420 breathing. And he did. He had a lot of plans as things that he 1246 01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:45,750 wanted 1247 01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:48,030 to do. What do you think happened? 1248 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,750 I think somebody got in there and made, you know, money can 1249 01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:55,950 buy anything nowadays. It seems like there's a lot of evil in 1250 01:12:55,950 --> 01:13:02,790 this world. I think. Somebody didn't like what he had to say 1251 01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:07,500 he wanted to shut him up and didn't want it to come back on. 1252 01:13:08,190 --> 01:13:11,220 Anyone. So that's why they made it look like a suicide. 1253 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,870 Adam Curry: Amen, sister. So by the way, if I'm going to commit 1254 01:13:15,870 --> 01:13:20,790 suicide, I'm not going to I'm not suicidal. But I do it in the 1255 01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:24,900 hotel room. Now. Why do I wait, do you get in the truck? Oh, now 1256 01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:25,710 I'm depressed. 1257 01:13:26,610 --> 01:13:29,430 John C Dvorak: No, makes no, it makes zero sense. It's very 1258 01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:31,020 poorly executed now. 1259 01:13:31,410 --> 01:13:33,300 Adam Curry: Thank you producers a cheap 1260 01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:34,020 John C Dvorak: assassin. 1261 01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:38,640 Adam Curry: Well, that kind of lines up with this next clip. 1262 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,290 This is from a podcast. This is the quite frankly podcast. And 1263 01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:46,920 that and just due to Frank, I think his name's Frank. And he 1264 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,700 has maybe not, but it's a quite frankly podcast. And it's on 1265 01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:54,780 rumble. So not really a podcast, but okay, it's a Rumble. Rumble. 1266 01:13:54,990 --> 01:13:58,560 Oh, there you go. It's a rumble cast. And he has his guests on 1267 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,670 from time to time named rich. Baris. Rich is a pollster. And 1268 01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:09,210 really good. GOP Republican pro Trump guy, very knowledgeable. 1269 01:14:09,210 --> 01:14:13,860 And he he knows this guy from back in the day when he was, I 1270 01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:16,980 guess, also working in that business. And he's very 1271 01:14:16,980 --> 01:14:19,530 surprised to hear that this guy is quote unquote, committed 1272 01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:26,400 suicide. And then he rolls out an extra little bit, which I 1273 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,770 think we just need to take it into account. 1274 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,680 Unknown: Boeing is an extremely powerful company. There is no 1275 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,210 doubt that they lied and for almost nearly 400 souls are dead 1276 01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:38,970 because they lied and because they cut corners and because 1277 01:14:38,970 --> 01:14:42,000 they tried to hide it. If it wasn't for Donald Trump, more 1278 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,670 people would be dead and he doesn't talk about this enough 1279 01:14:44,670 --> 01:14:49,830 but FAA and everybody was like, but they wholeheartedly believe 1280 01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:53,070 Boeing. When that second plane went down Trump he became the 1281 01:14:53,250 --> 01:14:56,640 just so people know how a historic Mrs. Trump became the 1282 01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,830 first president ever in history to grow around an aircraft by 1283 01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:05,550 President presidential order, without by the way, the 1284 01:15:05,550 --> 01:15:09,960 recommendation of the FAA he did not the FAA was still in cover 1285 01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:13,290 mode and kiss ass mode. Frank, one, he signed that order and 1286 01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:19,320 said the 737 is grounded. He did it by presidential order. The 1287 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,860 first crash understandable, but once that second one came along, 1288 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,160 the President was like, No, something's wrong here. It's 1289 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,250 grounded. And he did. And this is like one of the many things 1290 01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:31,710 that happened during the Trump administration, that you just 1291 01:15:31,710 --> 01:15:35,160 never hear about that. It's just really incredible, bold action 1292 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,920 from the former president. No president has the balls to do 1293 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,870 that and won't be serious right now. Boeing is powerful. They 1294 01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:46,320 had a lot of friends, including in his own administration. He 1295 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,220 let Nikki Haley go because her family was basically broke. And 1296 01:15:50,220 --> 01:15:53,790 he let her go to go get a job on the board of Boeing that she had 1297 01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:59,040 lined up in order to you know, in that's why, by the way, you 1298 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,430 know that it's more than just one promise, you hear oh, well, 1299 01:16:02,430 --> 01:16:05,190 Nikki Haley said she would never run against a former President 1300 01:16:05,190 --> 01:16:08,790 if he ran again. I mean, this was something that they actually 1301 01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:12,180 had talked about Frank when he let her go. And he said, Fine, I 1302 01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:14,970 understand you need to go to the private sector, and then do some 1303 01:16:14,970 --> 01:16:17,910 stuff. But I got your word that you're not going to come back as 1304 01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:21,840 a ballbuster. You know, and so she not only broke her vow to 1305 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,260 the party, not you know, to, you know, that loyalty pledge. I 1306 01:16:25,260 --> 01:16:29,340 mean, this was a personal, you know, my word is my bond kind of 1307 01:16:29,340 --> 01:16:33,150 situation, I have to resign, my family needs more money, I'm 1308 01:16:33,150 --> 01:16:36,690 gonna go do this, which he really didn't like. But she had 1309 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,740 already had those connections to Boeing from when she was 1310 01:16:40,740 --> 01:16:45,090 governor of South Carolina, she literally entice them to move 1311 01:16:45,090 --> 01:16:48,120 the construction of that aircraft over to Charleston. And 1312 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:55,860 Adam Curry: that's when all the shows. And that's when all the 1313 01:16:56,130 --> 01:17:00,210 cost cutting started is when Nikki Haley begged them to come 1314 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:06,090 move their operation to South Carolina. So there's a stinky 1315 01:17:06,090 --> 01:17:08,070 element of Nikki Haley in this too. 1316 01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:13,890 John C Dvorak: Wow. Hi, you know, that clip? I have to give 1317 01:17:13,890 --> 01:17:15,900 you a clip of the day for digging that one. Well, 1318 01:17:16,110 --> 01:17:18,060 Adam Curry: it wasn't me it was our producer. So if you've been 1319 01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:22,830 to that clip, whoever. Yeah. Yeah, I was 1320 01:17:22,830 --> 01:17:26,010 John C Dvorak: a good, good catch. Whoever found that, that 1321 01:17:26,010 --> 01:17:33,210 is fascinating. And it also adds to the intrigue of Trump and all 1322 01:17:33,210 --> 01:17:37,500 these people that he trusts and hires, you know, I would say 1323 01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:40,860 like, you know, it's like one backstabber after another no 1324 01:17:40,860 --> 01:17:43,950 matter who it is. What is the deal? 1325 01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:51,210 Adam Curry: Yeah. I know. Yeah, the the, I guess is what they 1326 01:17:51,210 --> 01:17:58,320 call the swamp. Is that what they call? Ah, is fascinating, 1327 01:17:58,350 --> 01:17:58,950 facile. 1328 01:17:58,950 --> 01:18:01,440 John C Dvorak: I do have the clip of the you played earlier, 1329 01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:07,080 I have the PBS version of the report on the Boeing united. 1330 01:18:08,010 --> 01:18:10,080 Look at that panel. Yes. All 1331 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,790 Unknown: right. Here we go. There's been another incident 1332 01:18:11,790 --> 01:18:16,320 involving a Boeing jetliner, an older United Airlines 737 landed 1333 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,100 safely in Oregon on Friday, minus a large external panel 1334 01:18:20,130 --> 01:18:23,340 along the plane's belly. There were no indications of trouble 1335 01:18:23,340 --> 01:18:25,560 during the flight. And the missing panel was only 1336 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,100 discovered during a post flight inspection. Both united and the 1337 01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,720 FAA are investigating 1338 01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:36,990 John C Dvorak: simple Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just click it leaves 1339 01:18:36,990 --> 01:18:38,160 with Boeing. Yeah, 1340 01:18:38,190 --> 01:18:40,500 Adam Curry: of course. It's all Boeing well Boeing's in trouble 1341 01:18:40,530 --> 01:18:44,400 and and where they should be and rightly so. You 1342 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,860 John C Dvorak: know, especially having assassinated the 1343 01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:49,050 whistleblower. Yeah, I 1344 01:18:49,050 --> 01:18:51,690 Adam Curry: mean, he must have had some info they really didn't 1345 01:18:51,690 --> 01:18:57,150 want to come out. They mean the NA could have gotten really 1346 01:18:57,150 --> 01:19:02,100 sticky. If you bring in the and how about Lindy Hop Greta grey 1347 01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:04,560 ham. You might have had something to do with this too. 1348 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:09,090 Isn't it was New South Carolina. Yeah, who knows? Who knows this 1349 01:19:09,210 --> 01:19:09,660 whole thing 1350 01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:10,500 John C Dvorak: is fishy. Yeah, 1351 01:19:10,530 --> 01:19:14,640 Adam Curry: they kill people and that they don't care. Do not 1352 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,500 care about you, me. That guy John. Sorry about him. 1353 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,540 John C Dvorak: says we're talking about airline safety. I 1354 01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:29,580 have a clip of helicopter safety I want to play because I want to 1355 01:19:29,580 --> 01:19:36,030 remind people that we have basically the same analysis 1356 01:19:36,930 --> 01:19:41,250 years earlier in fact right on the spot I just when I heard 1357 01:19:41,250 --> 01:19:43,890 this as well that might as well be Adam up there because this is 1358 01:19:43,890 --> 01:19:48,990 exactly what you said about the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash 1359 01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:49,710 late last 1360 01:19:49,710 --> 01:19:52,770 Unknown: month the head of a Nigerian bank, his wife, son and 1361 01:19:52,770 --> 01:19:55,740 three others were killed when the helicopter taking them to 1362 01:19:55,740 --> 01:19:59,610 Las Vegas, crashed in California's Mojave Desert. Also 1363 01:19:59,610 --> 01:20:02,580 lately Last month, the Army National Guard temporarily 1364 01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:05,940 halted all its helicopter operations after fatal crashes 1365 01:20:05,970 --> 01:20:09,540 in Utah and Mississippi, and that followed the Army's 1366 01:20:09,540 --> 01:20:12,960 temporary grounding late last year of its Osprey aircraft 1367 01:20:12,990 --> 01:20:15,990 which can function as a helicopter. These incidents and 1368 01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:18,630 recent high profile accidents like the one that killed 1369 01:20:18,690 --> 01:20:23,430 basketball star Kobe Bryant and his daughter in 2020, and 2019 1370 01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:27,000 tour helicopter crash in Hawaii that killed seven raised 1371 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,210 questions in people's minds about the safety of helicopters. 1372 01:20:30,510 --> 01:20:33,300 John golias, a former member of the National Transportation 1373 01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:36,690 Safety Board, and former chair of the National Coalition for 1374 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,380 aviation education. John we may be seeing a lot more helicopters 1375 01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:44,040 as air taxis are being developed as soon as next year. Quite 1376 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,800 simply, our helicopter safe helicopters 1377 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:51,120 in the vehicle itself is very safe. What we're seeing today is 1378 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,350 a lot of issues with we have pilot issues, and maybe not not 1379 01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:58,560 monitoring their operations well enough. You know, you mentioned 1380 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,460 two accidents in Nigeria and fella who died in Kobe Bryant 1381 01:21:02,820 --> 01:21:06,750 both of those were helicopter pilots that disregard weather 1382 01:21:06,750 --> 01:21:11,250 cues and allow them to accomplish the mission. And that 1383 01:21:11,250 --> 01:21:14,700 self imposed pressure that they have on themselves to get the 1384 01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:20,580 mission done. Oftentimes, it's the driver behind the event that 1385 01:21:20,580 --> 01:21:21,630 leads to a crash. 1386 01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:23,880 Adam Curry: I'm glad you bring this up. Because I have an 1387 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,360 update on the Nigerian helicopter crash first of all, 1388 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,900 what happened what's happening here in bad weather in a 1389 01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:35,640 helicopter in an airplane, but a helicopter usually you're flying 1390 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:40,110 visually that's I mean, there are helicopters that are fully 1391 01:21:40,110 --> 01:21:43,860 IFR autopilot you know you can you can you can fly it in any 1392 01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:49,770 kind of weather, but most helicopter pilots fly visually 1393 01:21:50,460 --> 01:21:56,130 and in the Kobe Bryant case well we know that this by the way it 1394 01:21:56,130 --> 01:21:59,700 was a an accomplished pilot but he should have never taken the 1395 01:21:59,730 --> 01:22:03,330 Eden should have never taken off. You know, as VIP customers 1396 01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:05,550 he had that you know, there's that urge that's the most 1397 01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:13,650 dangerous thing in in commercial charter operation is you got a 1398 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,890 high profile client the client wants to take off wants to do it 1399 01:22:16,890 --> 01:22:20,580 I gotta get get to a game we got to go We're late. And he ran 1400 01:22:20,580 --> 01:22:24,570 into bad weather and within 20 seconds if you're not prepared, 1401 01:22:24,810 --> 01:22:29,310 and if you're not, I've had it happen to myself. But I but I, I 1402 01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:32,340 knew to trust my instruments, I immediately went straight to 1403 01:22:32,340 --> 01:22:35,700 instruments and didn't turn upside down because that's what 1404 01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:39,300 will happen in an airplane or in a helicopter. If you don't know 1405 01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:41,820 what you're doing you the minute you get a white out you get 1406 01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:44,730 vertigo, you feel you think you're you're tilting to the 1407 01:22:44,730 --> 01:22:47,400 left but you're really tilted you don't know what's going on 1408 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,120 and within 20 seconds you can be upside down and it's all over in 1409 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,480 this case with that then initially they said it was an 1410 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:59,880 easy 120 which was wrong as the ECA Eurocopter 130 So at first I 1411 01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,100 thought they were just overweight, they had six people 1412 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:05,460 in an aircraft that can only have five turns because I read 1413 01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:10,470 the NTSB report. And what happened was bad weather high 1414 01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:16,200 profile client, the pilot is going lower and lower because of 1415 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:22,020 snow developing snow. And he is the number one cause of 1416 01:23:22,050 --> 01:23:25,860 helicopter accidents is Bill Graham would tell you if he was 1417 01:23:25,860 --> 01:23:30,750 here he is wires. That's the number one cause and they ran 1418 01:23:30,750 --> 01:23:35,250 into a wire. They hit a power line. And that's what took them 1419 01:23:35,250 --> 01:23:40,890 down. And you know, he just he I mean you can see on your 1420 01:23:40,890 --> 01:23:43,380 altimeter how far you are from the ground but in bad weather 1421 01:23:43,380 --> 01:23:47,100 you can't see the wires. Boom right to the wire that took them 1422 01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:54,420 down. Yes. Bad day, as we say in aviation a real day wrecker. 1423 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:57,630 Show we 1424 01:23:58,710 --> 01:24:00,690 John C Dvorak: I've always enjoyed helicopters. 1425 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,840 Adam Curry: You know, I wasn't 1426 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,140 John C Dvorak: emotionally taking a trip on a helicopter in 1427 01:24:07,140 --> 01:24:13,950 Hawaii was a Vietnam War guy. And so we're in flight over one 1428 01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:17,250 of the volcanoes. And in the chopper industry as a family. 1429 01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:20,280 I'm sitting there on the front and it got a couple of families, 1430 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,510 three people in the back. And the guy says the pilot says, you 1431 01:24:24,510 --> 01:24:28,200 know, he's my last flight for the day. You want to do a back 1432 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:28,800 turn. 1433 01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:33,120 Adam Curry: If a pilot ever says watch this. That's that's about 1434 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,850 five seconds before you're gonna die. Well, 1435 01:24:35,850 --> 01:24:38,370 John C Dvorak: this guy, he seemed pretty competent to me. 1436 01:24:38,610 --> 01:24:42,060 So he says you want to do a bat turn and I know what that was. 1437 01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:48,300 And it's called the wing. I said, Yeah. And the people in 1438 01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:50,400 the back they looked at each other. I watched it and they 1439 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,260 looked at each other like I don't know what the hell he's 1440 01:24:52,260 --> 01:24:58,050 talking about. Sure. Okay. So this guy does. He does a couple 1441 01:24:58,050 --> 01:25:01,860 a we just go sideways. And he makes us you know, turn around 1442 01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:09,360 thing. It's very noisy, say the least. And we're gonna sideways 1443 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:15,990 as he's going into a circle, bat turn. And the people behind me 1444 01:25:15,990 --> 01:25:19,470 were terrified own white terrified, of course, you know, 1445 01:25:19,470 --> 01:25:24,540 I was terrified it was it was. I don't know I felt it was. Yeah, 1446 01:25:24,540 --> 01:25:26,370 well, it would have been, it's 1447 01:25:26,370 --> 01:25:28,320 Adam Curry: always easier if you're in front and you can see 1448 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,750 everything. I mean, the back gets a little a little crazier. 1449 01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:33,810 I guess that's usually ever and when those people got real 1450 01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:36,270 quiet, that's when you want to hand the bags back because 1451 01:25:36,270 --> 01:25:38,430 someone's going to puke and you don't want to puke in your neck. 1452 01:25:38,430 --> 01:25:38,640 It 1453 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,200 John C Dvorak: didn't feel good. 1454 01:25:41,190 --> 01:25:43,380 Adam Curry: I love helicopter flying, I will not fly a 1455 01:25:43,380 --> 01:25:46,800 helicopter that I don't know who's has their hands on it. If 1456 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,800 I don't know who's maintaining it, I'm not interested. That 1457 01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:52,890 that's my number one rule. So I have not flown helicopter in a 1458 01:25:52,890 --> 01:25:53,640 long time. 1459 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:57,810 John C Dvorak: But nowhere this report that I played from PBS, 1460 01:25:57,810 --> 01:26:01,740 the guy goes on and on. And he says he said the difference is 1461 01:26:01,740 --> 01:26:05,880 the problem with a helicopter pilot is they have to be they 1462 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,540 have to be they can't relax. They have to be concentrating 1463 01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:13,170 all the time as opposed to a fixed wing pilot. We can Yeah, 1464 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:13,680 you know, 1465 01:26:13,710 --> 01:26:17,340 Adam Curry: all four limbs are engaged. Your legs and arms are 1466 01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:22,890 continuously working. It's almost like only fans only in 1467 01:26:22,890 --> 01:26:28,770 the air. Time for little update and improve our preparedness for 1468 01:26:28,770 --> 01:26:35,370 potential cyber pandemic. Yeah, cyber pandemic. We finally are 1469 01:26:35,370 --> 01:26:39,810 getting to some details here. And CNBC Squawk Box, they bring 1470 01:26:39,810 --> 01:26:43,410 on the one and only Scott Gottlieb to talk about latest 1471 01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:45,750 Unknown: Welcome back. Everybody. United Health says 1472 01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:49,110 that it is aiming to bring systems back online by today 1473 01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:52,950 after a massive healthcare hack described healthcare serious on 1474 01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:56,130 the US healthcare system to date. That disruption is in its 1475 01:26:56,130 --> 01:26:59,850 fourth week, it brought payments and other systems offline and is 1476 01:26:59,850 --> 01:27:02,790 estimated to be costing healthcare providers as much as 1477 01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:06,330 a billion dollars a day. For more on this we want to bring in 1478 01:27:06,330 --> 01:27:09,960 former FDA commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb. He is a member a 1479 01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,260 board member of Illumina and Pfizer also a CNBC contributor. 1480 01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:17,460 And Dr. Gottlieb, I don't think we've done enough to explain 1481 01:27:17,460 --> 01:27:20,460 this situation and describe to people what's really happening, 1482 01:27:20,460 --> 01:27:21,660 we have to clip this. 1483 01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,400 John C Dvorak: What is Scott Gottlieb know about brands, some 1484 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,810 were software, technology, computers or anything else. 1485 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,290 Adam Curry: He doesn't, but he does know a lot about how all 1486 01:27:34,290 --> 01:27:39,030 these different entities are tied together, not just business 1487 01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:42,630 wise, which is important, but also computer wise, you know, 1488 01:27:42,630 --> 01:27:45,750 this is what we wanted. We want the electronic health record. 1489 01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:50,160 Everything should be digital, put it all together. This is a 1490 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,290 real nightmare is a contributor. 1491 01:27:52,620 --> 01:27:55,950 Unknown: And Dr. Gottlieb, I don't think we've done enough to 1492 01:27:55,950 --> 01:27:59,040 explain this situation and describe to people what's really 1493 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:03,150 happening. This is kind of catastrophic. What, what what 1494 01:28:03,150 --> 01:28:03,690 happened, 1495 01:28:03,780 --> 01:28:04,650 Adam Curry: kinda, yeah, it's 1496 01:28:04,650 --> 01:28:06,930 Unknown: very pervasive across the entire healthcare system. 1497 01:28:06,930 --> 01:28:09,540 This is one of the largest facilitators of health claims 1498 01:28:09,540 --> 01:28:12,330 and medical claims in the country, they handle about 15 1499 01:28:12,330 --> 01:28:16,590 billion claims a year totaling around $1.5 trillion. So 1500 01:28:16,590 --> 01:28:18,810 basically a third of the entire healthcare system, we have a 1501 01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:22,200 $4.5 trillion health care system. And what this system 1502 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,650 does is, it handles claims not just for UnitedHealthcare, but 1503 01:28:25,650 --> 01:28:28,650 for other insurers as well. So doctors will subscribe to this 1504 01:28:28,650 --> 01:28:31,740 system, they'll contract with it. And it will tell them 1505 01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:33,750 whether or not patients are eligible to receive a 1506 01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:36,570 prescription or whether they're eligible against their insurance 1507 01:28:36,570 --> 01:28:39,060 plan to receive a certain procedure, what the cost will 1508 01:28:39,060 --> 01:28:42,450 be, what the provider will be paid what the copay to the 1509 01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:46,440 patient will be. A patient comes into a provider right now it 1510 01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:49,410 goes to a pharmacy and this systems down. They don't know 1511 01:28:49,410 --> 01:28:51,270 whether or not their claims going to get covered. The 1512 01:28:51,270 --> 01:28:53,490 provider doesn't know whether or not they're going to get paid. 1513 01:28:53,730 --> 01:28:55,950 The patient doesn't know what the out of pocket costs are 1514 01:28:55,950 --> 01:28:58,590 going to be. So these are being adjudicated by hand. In many 1515 01:28:58,590 --> 01:29:01,470 cases, some insurers have stepped in and said, Look, if 1516 01:29:01,470 --> 01:29:04,320 you make a good faith effort, we'll backstop the providers 1517 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,320 United has done that, particularly on the claim side 1518 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,830 for prescription drugs, but other insurers haven't. And so 1519 01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:14,520 you have the system right now, in many cases in limbo. Some 1520 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,850 elective procedures are getting pushed off. Others just aren't 1521 01:29:17,850 --> 01:29:20,160 getting done. But providers don't know when they'll get paid 1522 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,620 and they're out of pocket for the revenue right now. We've 1523 01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:26,160 Adam Curry: got a lot of boots on the ground dudes named Ben 1524 01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:28,770 weighing in on the backup situation, the backup to the 1525 01:29:28,770 --> 01:29:33,660 backup to the backup, and what is was happening and of course, 1526 01:29:33,810 --> 01:29:39,270 this is I would say 99% This is all Microsoft stuff that these 1527 01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:42,960 these exploits, they're in the system, they're in there for 1528 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:49,140 months. And you know, they, they literally jump across different 1529 01:29:49,140 --> 01:29:54,600 systems. Once they get admin control. Then they'll you know, 1530 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,110 they'll they'll go in they'll go into another node the the other 1531 01:29:58,110 --> 01:30:02,070 company's system because They're all connected. And then 1532 01:30:02,250 --> 01:30:06,510 ultimately, when when the when the when the ransomware locks 1533 01:30:06,510 --> 01:30:10,170 everything up, you know, that stuff could be in there four or 1534 01:30:10,170 --> 01:30:13,530 five months ago. So they have to figure out how far back do they 1535 01:30:13,530 --> 01:30:19,050 go to restore from backup before the exploits. So it's not quite 1536 01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:24,510 as simple as we would like it to be. But I think that's, you 1537 01:30:24,510 --> 01:30:27,180 know, that's why I'm I'm not arguing with Klaus Schwab that, 1538 01:30:27,210 --> 01:30:32,730 you know, Microsoft is, is a is a plague. It's a It's one big 1539 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,580 attack vector, all of it. You know, the internet is basically 1540 01:30:35,580 --> 01:30:39,210 one big attack vector. There's more here. From Gottlieb, 1541 01:30:39,330 --> 01:30:42,630 Unknown: we think of this as being such a wide system 1542 01:30:42,630 --> 01:30:45,090 healthcare system. But the idea that there's a point of 1543 01:30:45,090 --> 01:30:48,690 redundancy that affects a third of all of that, was this a 1544 01:30:48,690 --> 01:30:49,590 surprise to you? 1545 01:30:50,610 --> 01:30:53,670 Yeah, it was. And I think that we need to look outside the 1546 01:30:54,180 --> 01:30:56,400 industries we've traditionally looked at, like financial 1547 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,830 services, or transportation or infrastructure, where there's 1548 01:30:58,830 --> 01:31:02,460 these single points of failure. There's other medical processing 1549 01:31:02,460 --> 01:31:06,090 companies like waystar, that also process a lot of claims. 1550 01:31:06,090 --> 01:31:09,210 And I think we never thought about these sort of single 1551 01:31:09,210 --> 01:31:12,330 points of failure, these single nodes in industries that were 1552 01:31:12,330 --> 01:31:15,270 perceived as fragmented. So it was hard to take down you, you 1553 01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:18,210 perceive the medical industry as a fragmented industry as lots of 1554 01:31:18,210 --> 01:31:21,000 providers, lots of hospitals. And you never really thought 1555 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,670 about this single connected system. What happened here, this 1556 01:31:23,670 --> 01:31:29,100 is a worm like virus, it has movement within the system. So 1557 01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:32,130 it didn't just infect this change healthcare system inside 1558 01:31:32,130 --> 01:31:35,970 United central servers. But it actually branched out into all 1559 01:31:35,970 --> 01:31:38,910 the nodes that were connected to that. So literally, every health 1560 01:31:38,910 --> 01:31:43,650 system that's connected to this change health care system now 1561 01:31:43,650 --> 01:31:46,710 needs to be checked to see whether or not this wormlike 1562 01:31:46,710 --> 01:31:49,650 feature had lateral movement into those systems. That's why 1563 01:31:49,650 --> 01:31:52,140 it's so hard to get this turned back on because they need to 1564 01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:55,500 check every node that's connected into the change 1565 01:31:55,500 --> 01:31:58,800 healthcare infrastructure for Well, this is the same virus 1566 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,890 that was or a same group that was believed to be behind the 1567 01:32:01,890 --> 01:32:05,940 Colonial Pipeline ransomware attack in 2021, and also the 1568 01:32:05,940 --> 01:32:09,780 ransomware attack against MGM and Caesars in 2023 So it's a 1569 01:32:09,780 --> 01:32:14,040 known unknown group, a known feature if you will, a known 1570 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,830 attack just hasn't affected something like this in the 1571 01:32:16,830 --> 01:32:19,350 healthcare industry before he's 1572 01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:21,750 Adam Curry: no dude named Ben That's for sure. It's a feature 1573 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,410 John C Dvorak: he's he just something there that should be 1574 01:32:25,410 --> 01:32:29,610 noted, which is that they've been reluctant these guys to go 1575 01:32:29,610 --> 01:32:34,830 into the some crucial subsections of the economy like 1576 01:32:34,860 --> 01:32:39,060 health care, because they you know, it's it's going to get 1577 01:32:39,060 --> 01:32:42,180 people angry. It's because you're going to healthcare and 1578 01:32:42,180 --> 01:32:44,640 it's and healthcare is interconnected as she's because 1579 01:32:44,670 --> 01:32:47,610 the issues we're witnessing, they're terrible, because of all 1580 01:32:47,610 --> 01:32:51,390 this computerization, reliance on computerization, like you 1581 01:32:51,390 --> 01:32:52,560 just expressed earlier, 1582 01:32:52,590 --> 01:32:54,540 Adam Curry: the doctor's office, you know, that's where it can 1583 01:32:54,540 --> 01:32:56,280 start at some local, local. 1584 01:32:56,940 --> 01:32:59,460 John C Dvorak: And so you end up with him saying, No, we're not 1585 01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:02,700 going to do that. And then for such something changed. With 1586 01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:05,220 these guys said no screw we're going after anything we can we 1587 01:33:05,220 --> 01:33:09,750 can get money out of. And yeah, we have to accept that. That 1588 01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:15,540 would be maybe what Schwab was indicating. Because, hey, you 1589 01:33:15,540 --> 01:33:20,130 know what, let's who can we blame it on our game? fair game, 1590 01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:21,360 Adam Curry: last clip? I 1591 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,550 Unknown: mean, if it's if they're able to identify a 1592 01:33:23,550 --> 01:33:26,940 weakness in the system that you as the former head of the FDA 1593 01:33:26,940 --> 01:33:31,980 didn't even recognize or see. I mean, that's suggests an awful 1594 01:33:31,980 --> 01:33:36,210 high level of sophistication. No, is there the idea that this 1595 01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:40,080 will be potential nation state, targeting rush, rush rapture, 1596 01:33:40,110 --> 01:33:44,790 China? Well, the group that's responsible for this isn't 1597 01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:49,770 believed to be a national actor. This is a known ransomware. Gang 1598 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,830 row. I think we need to look, I think sis and other groups that 1599 01:33:52,830 --> 01:33:56,460 look for the soft targets inside the US economy need to now look 1600 01:33:56,460 --> 01:33:59,430 differently through a different lens to see whether or not 1601 01:33:59,430 --> 01:34:02,190 there's other very fragmented industry that you never thought 1602 01:34:02,190 --> 01:34:04,920 had a single point of failure that has a soft target like 1603 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:09,180 this. CMS was also slow to recognize this. I believe they 1604 01:34:09,180 --> 01:34:11,430 didn't put out their first statement till March 5. So we 1605 01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:14,640 were alerted to this on February 28. The attack happened on the 1606 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,940 21st. We were first alerted from a statement that the American 1607 01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:22,020 Hospital Association put out I believe, on 28th. CMS, the 1608 01:34:22,020 --> 01:34:24,150 Centers for Medicare Medicaid Services didn't put out a 1609 01:34:24,150 --> 01:34:26,940 statement till March 5. So the government here looked like it 1610 01:34:26,940 --> 01:34:29,940 was slow to act as well. I don't think early on, there was a 1611 01:34:29,940 --> 01:34:32,160 recognition of how pervasive this would be and what the 1612 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,340 impact would be across the healthcare landscape. We started 1613 01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:37,860 to hear it I started to hear anecdotally, from providers who 1614 01:34:37,860 --> 01:34:40,170 are hooked into this system, the impact it was having on their 1615 01:34:40,170 --> 01:34:43,290 offices. And he started to see things appear online from 1616 01:34:43,290 --> 01:34:45,450 providers complaining about this, but I think that there was 1617 01:34:45,450 --> 01:34:48,540 a we were slow to recognize or the government was slow to 1618 01:34:48,540 --> 01:34:51,990 recognize what kind of impact this would have if it was 1619 01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:54,120 protracted and it should have been recognized that this was 1620 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,340 going to be protracted right from the outset. 1621 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,100 Adam Curry: No blame. I thought that was very interesting. No 1622 01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:04,740 blame. It's just a gang, some rando gang. Now you think that's 1623 01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:07,620 bad the cyber pandemics about to get really bad 1624 01:35:07,650 --> 01:35:09,180 Unknown: one of the stories we're following for you this 1625 01:35:09,180 --> 01:35:11,580 morning many McDonald's restaurants around the world are 1626 01:35:11,580 --> 01:35:14,850 experiencing some sort of technology outage some 1627 01:35:14,850 --> 01:35:19,470 restaurants overseas have had to close we have not have any local 1628 01:35:19,470 --> 01:35:23,310 McDonald's being affected at this time McDonald's saying they 1629 01:35:23,310 --> 01:35:27,210 are aware of the problem and it will be resolved they are 1630 01:35:27,210 --> 01:35:29,970 apologizing for the inconvenience and they say this 1631 01:35:29,970 --> 01:35:33,390 is not related to any cybersecurity event 1632 01:35:34,770 --> 01:35:36,330 Adam Curry: I'll take it take your word. 1633 01:35:37,380 --> 01:35:40,200 John C Dvorak: I don't know the no reliance on this technology 1634 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:44,160 at this level for everything under the sun. It's you know 1635 01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:47,220 it's biting you back in the ass what what should happen 1636 01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,840 Adam Curry: oh yeah. Oh no, this this is so predictable. I mean 1637 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:56,700 talk to any dude named Ben or do debt name Bernadette. Microsoft 1638 01:35:56,700 --> 01:36:01,650 is just one big attack vector it's a mess It's a mess 1639 01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:05,850 John C Dvorak: the it's below is always meant to be it started 1640 01:36:05,850 --> 01:36:10,650 off as a company building operating systems for desk top 1641 01:36:10,650 --> 01:36:14,400 computers that were not net worth is set to maybe if you had 1642 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:15,900 net buoy net buoy 1643 01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:20,010 Adam Curry: weren't network that's that stuff never worked I 1644 01:36:20,010 --> 01:36:21,180 got to reboot the net boo 1645 01:36:22,290 --> 01:36:25,020 John C Dvorak: boo I thought worked quite well. I didn't like 1646 01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:30,210 it I remember like but anyway it you know, the idea was a bring 1647 01:36:30,210 --> 01:36:32,430 out a new version of the operating system when a new 1648 01:36:32,430 --> 01:36:35,400 style of hard disk or a new interface came out and they had 1649 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:39,180 to be adapted. And you know we're now we got everything 1650 01:36:39,180 --> 01:36:42,570 interconnected in a worldwide basis thanks to the internet and 1651 01:36:42,570 --> 01:36:44,490 it's ridiculous situation. 1652 01:36:46,110 --> 01:36:51,690 Adam Curry: Net buoy met boy. Okay, now just sticking with 1653 01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:57,480 sticking with pharma for a moment. Kind of kind of pharma 1654 01:36:58,110 --> 01:37:05,400 crisis. I didn't realize but the this show The Last of Us, which 1655 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:09,780 I think is on a max. This is a big hit. Have you seen this 1656 01:37:09,780 --> 01:37:10,170 show? 1657 01:37:10,380 --> 01:37:13,170 John C Dvorak: I have tried to watch it. I don't like it. 1658 01:37:13,290 --> 01:37:18,000 Adam Curry: I have never watched it. I somehow I thought it was 1659 01:37:18,510 --> 01:37:20,970 something completely different. I must have been confused what 1660 01:37:20,970 --> 01:37:25,680 was what was that show with? Was a Ted Danson who was it? Like, 1661 01:37:25,740 --> 01:37:28,500 you know, like the guy. There was they were it was the God 1662 01:37:28,500 --> 01:37:32,070 show. I can't remember what it was was had a good 1663 01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:33,750 John C Dvorak: place. Yeah, somehow. 1664 01:37:33,870 --> 01:37:35,370 Adam Curry: I had that in my mind. Yeah, I 1665 01:37:35,370 --> 01:37:36,780 John C Dvorak: never got that. I that. 1666 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:38,700 Adam Curry: I mean, that's that's what I had my my I don't 1667 01:37:38,700 --> 01:37:43,260 know why The Last of Us. So if I understand this is I get it. 1668 01:37:43,650 --> 01:37:50,250 Science fiction disaster, where there's some fungus and people 1669 01:37:50,250 --> 01:37:53,490 get this fungus and they turn into zombies. Is that your 1670 01:37:53,490 --> 01:37:55,590 understanding of the plot of The Last of Us? 1671 01:37:55,620 --> 01:37:58,080 John C Dvorak: I don't know what it's about. It's just a piece of 1672 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,060 crap. As far as I can tell, it's hard to watch. 1673 01:38:00,540 --> 01:38:04,470 Adam Curry: So we love looking at things that are predictive 1674 01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:11,070 programming. And this one is a doozy. I think this is ABC, two 1675 01:38:11,070 --> 01:38:18,810 clips here. They play a piece of this of this disaster, zombie 1676 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,050 popular show. And then they come in 1677 01:38:22,380 --> 01:38:25,830 John C Dvorak: and they bring me turn post apocalyptic. They turn 1678 01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:27,510 Adam Curry: into the they bring it to the doctor. 1679 01:38:27,810 --> 01:38:32,100 Unknown: Oh my. So those guys purely science fiction, but this 1680 01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:35,730 show The Last of Us based on the premise that a fungal infection, 1681 01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:38,670 turn people into more or less zombies. Now a lot of people 1682 01:38:38,670 --> 01:38:40,950 talking about these types of infections and what the real 1683 01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:42,660 ones Yeah, okay, we're gonna talk 1684 01:38:42,660 --> 01:38:45,630 about the actual science of all of this with ABC News, medical 1685 01:38:45,630 --> 01:38:49,350 unit coordinating producer Sony Saltzman but Sony, thanks so 1686 01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:51,930 much for being here. I have to say I don't love the idea of 1687 01:38:51,930 --> 01:38:56,640 talking about any kind of fungal only thing, but what 1688 01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,990 legitimately is at stake here? Are these things real? 1689 01:39:01,050 --> 01:39:04,020 Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I mean, I will say 1690 01:39:04,020 --> 01:39:07,110 part of our reporting was really inspired by The Last of Us, 1691 01:39:07,110 --> 01:39:10,410 which as you pointed out, is science fiction. But here's what 1692 01:39:10,410 --> 01:39:14,670 is real and estimated 1.7 million people are dying of 1693 01:39:14,670 --> 01:39:17,760 fungal infections, and that is more than tuberculosis or 1694 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,330 malaria. So the World Health Organization put out a warning 1695 01:39:21,330 --> 01:39:24,480 actually at around the same time as the show. And what they are 1696 01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:27,690 warning is that this is the priority pathogen, we really 1697 01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:30,420 need to be paying attention to this. So what are fungal 1698 01:39:30,420 --> 01:39:33,600 infections and who is at risk. I'm not talking about Athlete's 1699 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,540 Foot, although that is also a fungal infection. I'm talking 1700 01:39:36,540 --> 01:39:39,810 about fungal infections that get into your lungs, and in some 1701 01:39:39,810 --> 01:39:43,110 cases make their way to your brain. So those are the deadly 1702 01:39:43,110 --> 01:39:46,890 ones that we're talking about. And mostly people who are at 1703 01:39:46,890 --> 01:39:50,700 risk right now are people with underlying conditions, immune 1704 01:39:50,700 --> 01:39:54,660 compromised, but increasingly healthy people are getting sick. 1705 01:39:54,660 --> 01:39:57,090 And in the course of our reporting, I interviewed a mom 1706 01:39:57,090 --> 01:40:00,840 of two who, you know, was bedridden for months and I also 1707 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,840 interviewed a man who had unfortunately, a fungal 1708 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,750 infection that traveled to his brain, he had to have a port 1709 01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:09,780 drilled into his skull, and he has to have medication delivered 1710 01:40:09,780 --> 01:40:11,910 that way for the rest of his life. All right, so 1711 01:40:13,410 --> 01:40:16,740 Adam Curry: So, so I'm like, okay, so we have the predictive 1712 01:40:16,740 --> 01:40:19,950 program, we've got the show, it's a big hit. Now we're 1713 01:40:19,950 --> 01:40:22,740 saying, by the way, this, you know, this is pretty real, you 1714 01:40:22,740 --> 01:40:25,620 know, could enter into your lungs good into into your brain, 1715 01:40:25,620 --> 01:40:28,200 which of course, that's how you turn people into a zombie. But 1716 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,410 don't worry, if we drill a hole in your head, that'd be okay. So 1717 01:40:31,410 --> 01:40:36,780 I'm expecting a vaccine or something, or I'm anything but 1718 01:40:36,780 --> 01:40:38,340 what came next. And so 1719 01:40:38,370 --> 01:40:41,100 Unknown: these are serious. And I think that is something the 1720 01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:43,110 World Health Organization and the CDC are trying to raise 1721 01:40:43,110 --> 01:40:46,050 awareness. So after the show came out, I, you know, Googled, 1722 01:40:46,050 --> 01:40:48,840 can this actually happen? And I read something about a climate 1723 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,120 change factor, I mean, just added to the growing list, of 1724 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:55,140 course, climate climate change can cause what is the the 1725 01:40:55,170 --> 01:40:58,710 warming impact of this? Yeah, I'm glad you brought up climate 1726 01:40:58,710 --> 01:41:01,260 change, because it is a really important piece of the puzzle 1727 01:41:01,260 --> 01:41:04,980 here. So, you know, according to the CDC climate plays in in 1728 01:41:04,980 --> 01:41:08,130 several ways, one is that we're using more and more antifungals 1729 01:41:08,130 --> 01:41:12,030 for example, for me using them on crops, right. Another is that 1730 01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:15,330 the world so our bodies, if you think about this right now, 1731 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,360 there are about 90.6 degrees, right, roughly speaking, that's 1732 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,690 pretty warm. Actually, it's pretty hot. And historically, 1733 01:41:21,780 --> 01:41:24,660 that has not been a very hospitable environment for a 1734 01:41:24,660 --> 01:41:29,550 fungus to thrive. But if the planet keeps warming, and fungi 1735 01:41:29,550 --> 01:41:34,230 evolve, to survive, in increasingly hot temperatures, 1736 01:41:34,380 --> 01:41:40,350 they will according to the CDC, thrive in our hot bodies. Wow. 1737 01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:41,070 Yeah, 1738 01:41:41,070 --> 01:41:43,710 Adam Curry: baby. It's thriving in your hot body. 1739 01:41:44,220 --> 01:41:46,500 John C Dvorak: Your body temperature has gone down almost 1740 01:41:46,500 --> 01:41:49,920 a degree. That's right. That's right. So how's that? How's our 1741 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:51,540 hot body that you know, no, 1742 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:55,680 Adam Curry: no spin body? Oh, that's gone down to to 1743 01:41:55,710 --> 01:42:00,480 accommodate the fungal dude, I'm telling you. I said dude, 1744 01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:06,540 because we are all upset about the trans gender stuff and 1745 01:42:06,570 --> 01:42:12,450 rainbow and woke and political correctness. But these crazy 1746 01:42:12,450 --> 01:42:16,200 people they are sneaking up on us with the climate change. And 1747 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,390 we got to tell you, they're gonna 1748 01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,240 John C Dvorak: this is a plenty people should note this 1749 01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:25,080 particular presentation from going from the kind of the last 1750 01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:30,540 of a screwball TV show to climate change via fungal 1751 01:42:30,540 --> 01:42:33,510 infections. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, well, the 1752 01:42:33,510 --> 01:42:35,580 clip blitz if you want to do something different 1753 01:42:35,610 --> 01:42:39,960 Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. Wow, hold on a second. You can't do a 1754 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:44,040 clip blitz without the jingle. I mean, you caught me off guard on 1755 01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:45,990 a second. Let's see. 1756 01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:50,370 Unknown: Read through the three red 33 complaints complaints 1757 01:42:51,090 --> 01:42:51,780 caplets 1758 01:42:51,780 --> 01:42:54,150 John C Dvorak: everybody love it. All right, right one is it 1759 01:42:54,150 --> 01:42:56,040 the one I got a couple of them I gotta 1760 01:43:01,590 --> 01:43:03,780 Adam Curry: clipless All right, what do we have? Let's go to 1761 01:43:03,780 --> 01:43:06,720 Dollar Tree Dollar Tree. It is Dollar 1762 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,840 Unknown: Tree plans to close around $1,000 tree and family 1763 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,750 dollar stores around the country. After the discount 1764 01:43:12,750 --> 01:43:15,840 chain reported an unexpected fourth quarter loss and its 1765 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,380 earnings report today. About 600 stores will be closed in the 1766 01:43:19,380 --> 01:43:22,050 first half of this year. The rest will come over the next 1767 01:43:22,050 --> 01:43:25,650 several years. Dollar Tree acquired Family Dollar in 2015 1768 01:43:25,650 --> 01:43:31,050 for more than $8 billion and has more than 16,700 stores around 1769 01:43:31,050 --> 01:43:31,740 the country. 1770 01:43:33,690 --> 01:43:38,520 John C Dvorak: All right. About Musk showers on lemon for CNN 1771 01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,940 Unknown: host Don Lemon promised to bring a new video show baring 1772 01:43:41,940 --> 01:43:46,260 his name to the social media platform X. He sat down with EX 1773 01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:50,700 owner Elon Musk and it all went south in a hurry. He says Musk 1774 01:43:50,730 --> 01:43:54,090 canceled their deal. And piers David Folkenflik has more 1775 01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,250 must go on SpaceX two so let's call 1776 01:43:56,250 --> 01:44:00,060 this a failure to launch. Lemon called their exchange tents yet 1777 01:44:00,090 --> 01:44:02,670 said on his own subsequent social media posts that he kept 1778 01:44:02,670 --> 01:44:05,190 telling Musk it showed the importance of the free flow of 1779 01:44:05,190 --> 01:44:09,060 ideas. Musk touts acts as a haven for free speech but did 1780 01:44:09,060 --> 01:44:12,060 not apparently like what lemon had to say particularly 1781 01:44:12,060 --> 01:44:15,660 questions about his alleged drug use and anti semitic remarks on 1782 01:44:15,660 --> 01:44:19,770 x. Twitter, Musk attacked lemon and CNN as well as 1783 01:44:19,770 --> 01:44:21,510 former CNN CHIEF Jeff Zucker, 1784 01:44:21,870 --> 01:44:25,290 a new CNN boss let lemon go last spring after he made sexist and 1785 01:44:25,290 --> 01:44:28,260 ageist remarks about Nikki Haley. Women's new shows to 1786 01:44:28,260 --> 01:44:32,190 debut on March 18. X says lemon can post but without any 1787 01:44:32,190 --> 01:44:35,010 financial partnership. Lemon says he'll seek the money that 1788 01:44:35,010 --> 01:44:35,880 Musk promised 1789 01:44:39,660 --> 01:44:46,290 John C Dvorak: anti AI laws in the EU which needs discussion is 1790 01:44:46,290 --> 01:44:48,330 going to new. See. 1791 01:44:49,980 --> 01:44:52,110 Unknown: lawmakers approved the block's artificial intelligence 1792 01:44:52,110 --> 01:44:56,400 act viewster. This world's first comprehensive legislation on AI 1793 01:44:56,610 --> 01:44:58,260 Teri Schultz reports. The European 1794 01:44:58,260 --> 01:45:02,280 Union's AI act is likely to get final approval from EU leaders 1795 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,100 in May. It will then be implemented over the next two 1796 01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:08,280 years. It will ban some applications of artificial 1797 01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,950 intelligence such as manipulation of human behavior 1798 01:45:10,980 --> 01:45:14,550 and will regulate other uses such as biometric identification 1799 01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:18,300 systems based on their potential risks and impact. If tech 1800 01:45:18,300 --> 01:45:22,050 companies violate the new rules, they could be banned up to 7% of 1801 01:45:22,050 --> 01:45:23,550 their annual global revenue. 1802 01:45:25,410 --> 01:45:28,470 Adam Curry: I go Bell, I didn't realize it. I thought we were 1803 01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:31,350 done. All right. One. Well, you said we need to discussion 1804 01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:32,280 talking about customers 1805 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,680 Unknown: no longer have access to dining rooms at most Taco 1806 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,770 Bell restaurants in Oakland. We spotted signs saying a dining 1807 01:45:37,770 --> 01:45:40,680 room closed at the restaurant at 35th Avenue and MacArthur 1808 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,920 Boulevard today. According to reports, four of the five Taco 1809 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,740 Bells in Oakland are now drive thru only because of rising 1810 01:45:46,740 --> 01:45:50,130 crime. The restaurants aren't accepting cash either. We've 1811 01:45:50,130 --> 01:45:52,170 reached out to Taco Bell corporate headquarters for 1812 01:45:52,170 --> 01:45:54,480 confirmation, but haven't yet to hear back. Oh, 1813 01:45:56,730 --> 01:46:00,690 Adam Curry: boy, I'm out of breath after that. Bell, I'd 1814 01:46:00,690 --> 01:46:05,220 like to follow up on the Don Lemon portion of the clip Blitz. 1815 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:09,780 Yes, please. Don Lemon, of course came to explain his story 1816 01:46:09,780 --> 01:46:11,340 to the ladies of the view. 1817 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:16,590 John C Dvorak: Shop. I am so happy you got these clips 1818 01:46:16,590 --> 01:46:19,680 because I watched this. And I said I've got to get these clips 1819 01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,190 is perfect for the show. This was insanity. So 1820 01:46:23,190 --> 01:46:26,400 Unknown: Don Lemon was supposed to kick off his partnership with 1821 01:46:26,430 --> 01:46:30,690 Elon Musk, on the billionaire social media platform X also 1822 01:46:30,690 --> 01:46:34,290 known or previously known as Twitter, but next week or next 1823 01:46:34,290 --> 01:46:39,030 week, but instead, Musk just ended up cutting ties with our 1824 01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:42,840 darling Don Lemon after a rather tense interview session watch 1825 01:46:43,530 --> 01:46:44,310 hate speech 1826 01:46:45,330 --> 01:46:49,860 on the platform is up. Do you believe that x and you have some 1827 01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:53,340 responsibility to moderate hate speech on the platform that you 1828 01:46:53,340 --> 01:46:55,980 wouldn't have to answer these questions from reporters about 1829 01:46:55,980 --> 01:46:58,230 the great replacement theory? Is it really I don't have to answer 1830 01:46:58,230 --> 01:47:01,380 this great replacement theory as it relates to Jewish people. Do 1831 01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:02,700 you think that I don't have 1832 01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:04,920 to answer questions from reporters? Don't the only reason 1833 01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,410 I'm doing this interview is because you're on X platform, 1834 01:47:07,620 --> 01:47:11,280 and you asked for it. Otherwise, I would not do this interview. 1835 01:47:11,700 --> 01:47:13,830 So you don't think Do you think that you wouldn't get in 1836 01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:16,230 trouble? Or you wouldn't be criticized for these things? 1837 01:47:16,710 --> 01:47:18,030 Possibly I could care less? 1838 01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:24,960 What a snowflake. What a snowflake. No, this is going to 1839 01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:29,610 end badly. You know, Musk is not really you know, I went into 1840 01:47:29,610 --> 01:47:32,130 this with my eyes open. And look, this is just an old saying 1841 01:47:32,130 --> 01:47:34,350 in the south and they say you knew I was a snake before you 1842 01:47:34,350 --> 01:47:36,450 pick me up. Yeah, I'm not saying he's a snake. But I'm just 1843 01:47:36,450 --> 01:47:39,600 saying that. It's relative to this. So I went into this with 1844 01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,000 my eyes open. But truly, I went into it with the best of 1845 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:45,120 intentions. I heard your conversation just briefly about 1846 01:47:45,150 --> 01:47:47,610 an issue about independence. I am an independent regardless of 1847 01:47:47,610 --> 01:47:50,100 what people think Elon Musk thinks I'm on the left or what 1848 01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:53,400 have you. I'm an independent, I believe in free speech. I 1849 01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,290 believe that people have the right to say whatever they want 1850 01:47:55,290 --> 01:47:58,080 to say and but you suffer the consequences for it when you say 1851 01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:01,920 it. I took them at their word. They quoted me for months. Yeah. 1852 01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,040 And when their new CEO came aboard she courted me her their 1853 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,080 management team coordinator, they sweet that sweeten the 1854 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,960 deals with incentives. And I said that was the biggest and 1855 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:14,760 best place for me to launch the show. And because you know 1856 01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:18,030 what's happening with television now and it's shrinking. 1857 01:48:18,780 --> 01:48:22,590 John C Dvorak: Oops, not don't make a couple of comments real 1858 01:48:22,590 --> 01:48:28,380 quick before you get your Yeah, go for it. He's wearing pink. So 1859 01:48:28,380 --> 01:48:32,010 let's start with that. So he's wearing a pink outfit as he's 1860 01:48:32,010 --> 01:48:35,370 sitting there. And then he says this comment about you knew it 1861 01:48:35,370 --> 01:48:39,480 was a snake you know the snake? Yeah, you know, pick me up Yeah. 1862 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:47,730 Yeah, Don Lemon was the snake not musk. He knew he was a snake 1863 01:48:47,730 --> 01:48:53,040 when you pick me up because Don Lemon who was too stupid. For 1864 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:57,150 one thing he wanted $5 million in advance plus a piece some 1865 01:48:57,150 --> 01:49:02,130 stock in X got to do this in the first place my morning. They 1866 01:49:02,130 --> 01:49:07,260 carted me as a he had some some ridiculous demands. And then 1867 01:49:07,260 --> 01:49:11,220 he's the snake and then he does what nobody does, which is you 1868 01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:15,540 turn and bite the hand that feeds you which is the snake can 1869 01:49:15,540 --> 01:49:19,680 you don't see the view people going after Bob Iger or Disney's 1870 01:49:19,980 --> 01:49:25,590 practices or anything? You're a bunch of hypocrites stupid. This 1871 01:49:25,590 --> 01:49:28,260 I found this to be the most one of the most offensive things 1872 01:49:28,260 --> 01:49:31,530 I've ever seen them do on the view. I bring this guy on. 1873 01:49:31,890 --> 01:49:33,870 Adam Curry: I think Don Lemon should join the view we could be 1874 01:49:33,870 --> 01:49:38,010 one of the ladies of the view. He's perfect. I would I would I 1875 01:49:38,010 --> 01:49:41,550 would hire him he's he'd be great. Yeah, be great on the 1876 01:49:41,550 --> 01:49:42,120 view. But he 1877 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,250 John C Dvorak: was he was swimming in pig shit. You could 1878 01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:48,360 either sitting grant he's got the dumb look on his face, pink, 1879 01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:49,680 orange, pink, and 1880 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,720 Adam Curry: then telling the view that television is 1881 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:57,210 shrinking. Dude, Be smart. Be smart. Don't say those things 1882 01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:03,420 are so dumb. So dumb. So, I got a, I got a red alert yesterday. 1883 01:50:05,970 --> 01:50:09,450 This is dropkick with a red dash alpha message and two farts, 1884 01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:14,190 Texas limb calls me. He went up, they went back home to the 1885 01:50:14,190 --> 01:50:17,130 Panhandle because there was a big fire there, which of course, 1886 01:50:17,130 --> 01:50:20,730 no one talks about, you know, Boo was fired. It was talked 1887 01:50:20,730 --> 01:50:24,150 about, yeah, well, but we haven't talked about the 1888 01:50:24,150 --> 01:50:31,200 repercussions. He says that most of the ranchers who lost their 1889 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,860 ranch in that area of the country of Texas certainly is 1890 01:50:34,890 --> 01:50:39,120 cattle country. That's where there's huge processing plants 1891 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,450 up there. And we know that all the beef processing has really 1892 01:50:42,450 --> 01:50:47,880 come down to three main processors. There's no more real 1893 01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:51,810 connection with the American rancher. And we already had saw 1894 01:50:51,810 --> 01:50:56,130 our herd our, our American herd at the lowest they said since 1895 01:50:56,130 --> 01:51:00,780 the 70s. Slim says Adam, is the lowest ever and it's worse, 1896 01:51:00,990 --> 01:51:04,830 because these ranchers are not coming back. They can't get 1897 01:51:04,830 --> 01:51:08,970 financing, which obviously, you know, money is very expensive. 1898 01:51:08,970 --> 01:51:13,680 Now. He said, This is the tipping point. This he says the 1899 01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:17,760 summer of pork is coming. The only beef that you're going to 1900 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:22,110 see is going to go to China and Europe would be sell sold as 1901 01:51:22,110 --> 01:51:26,610 caviar. You'll see beef in your supermarket. But this is the 1902 01:51:26,610 --> 01:51:32,130 stuff that so we really have three farms now. The Amazon, 1903 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,570 Africa, and funnily enough, Australia, and Australians don't 1904 01:51:36,570 --> 01:51:41,310 get their own beef. And it's all being produced by JB s and 1905 01:51:41,310 --> 01:51:46,020 Cargill, then they M they will shoot these animals up with 1906 01:51:46,020 --> 01:51:50,880 everything. It's gotten to the point where people will they'll 1907 01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:55,680 do a taste test between beef from the supermarket and pure 1908 01:51:55,860 --> 01:52:00,450 beef straight from a Texas cow. And they liked the supermarket 1909 01:52:00,450 --> 01:52:03,900 beef better because they're putting taste products into it 1910 01:52:03,930 --> 01:52:07,650 like MSG. Not not MSG specifically but they've they've 1911 01:52:07,650 --> 01:52:11,010 got something figured out where it just your brain goes Wow. 1912 01:52:11,250 --> 01:52:14,910 John C Dvorak: Can up the BDS Sony Bologna's Yep, flavor. 1913 01:52:14,910 --> 01:52:18,300 Adam Curry: Yep, that's exactly what's happening. And you know, 1914 01:52:18,300 --> 01:52:21,630 there's, there's, there's almost no protein left in this beef. 1915 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:27,090 And it's a big problem. And to add to that, the climate change 1916 01:52:27,090 --> 01:52:34,410 we got to get rid of the cows everywhere. So it's all open 1917 01:52:34,410 --> 01:52:38,040 source nonprofit beef initiative.com Find your rancher 1918 01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,500 near you go buy your beef directly from that rancher 1919 01:52:40,500 --> 01:52:43,800 because if you let that rancher go, you're not gonna have 1920 01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:47,520 anything to eat? Well, yeah, you will. But it'll just be Crap. 1921 01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:53,760 Crap. Exactly. Crap. It's really I mean, if he was going on, and 1922 01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,760 I've never heard, he told me this three years ago, and they 1923 01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,150 said this, this is bad. We got to do something about it. And 1924 01:53:00,150 --> 01:53:02,280 now should this is the tipping point because these ranches 1925 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,040 aren't coming back. Kids don't want to do it anymore. Like 1926 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,370 yeah, you know, you can you just sell the land, the take the 1927 01:53:08,370 --> 01:53:13,350 money, I can't get financing for it, banks won't pay for it. So 1928 01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:18,060 whatever. Just wanted to make everybody real happy with that 1929 01:53:18,060 --> 01:53:24,870 news. And let's check in with the with the war in Ukraine, 1930 01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:28,980 which we know has to wind down. And I think we now see there's a 1931 01:53:28,980 --> 01:53:33,270 new term. I think we now see who's going to be responsible 1932 01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:40,080 for it. In fact, that the telegraphing is where the buyers 1933 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,800 military industrial complex, come on over whereby and if 1934 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,150 you're ready to sell full 1935 01:53:45,150 --> 01:53:47,730 Unknown: smiles between Europe's two most important leaders, as 1936 01:53:47,730 --> 01:53:50,760 they met in Berlin occur greeting though a hint at the 1937 01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,730 simmering tension between all of Schultz and Emmanuel Macron, 1938 01:53:54,030 --> 01:54:00,330 especially on the issue of Ukraine. And invitation to 1939 01:54:00,330 --> 01:54:02,460 Berlin from the German Chancellor saw the pair meeting 1940 01:54:02,460 --> 01:54:05,220 with newly elected Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk. The 1941 01:54:05,220 --> 01:54:08,190 military welcome and appropriate start for discussions that were 1942 01:54:08,190 --> 01:54:11,670 expected to be fraught and focused on the future of 1943 01:54:11,670 --> 01:54:15,480 Europe's defense meeting is a revival of what was once called 1944 01:54:15,480 --> 01:54:19,560 the Weimar triangle. Already, it may have shown its ability to 1945 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:23,040 unite the three countries. Downside to have an evolutionary 1946 01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:24,180 update, we've agreed on some 1947 01:54:24,180 --> 01:54:26,820 Adam Curry: main issues, among others, that we will acquire 1948 01:54:26,850 --> 01:54:30,270 even more weapons for Ukraine on the international market. This 1949 01:54:30,270 --> 01:54:33,480 is a step forwards. Secondly, the production of military 1950 01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:37,080 equipment will be expanded by cooperating with other partners 1951 01:54:37,110 --> 01:54:41,070 in Ukraine. A crystal clear signal goes to Moscow. The 1952 01:54:41,070 --> 01:54:44,280 Russian president must know that our support for Ukraine will not 1953 01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:48,720 ebb. We stand united by Ukraine side. These guys are left 1954 01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:54,030 holding the bag. The Weimar triangle Give me a break. Here 1955 01:54:54,030 --> 01:54:55,020 you guys deal with it. 1956 01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:00,000 John C Dvorak: So is the same guys to the names keep cropping 1957 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,130 YEAH. OH Yes, Ben I think you're in the play since we started the 1958 01:55:05,130 --> 01:55:06,660 show 16 years ago. 1959 01:55:06,990 --> 01:55:08,820 Adam Curry: Wasn't that his brother who got killed on the 1960 01:55:08,820 --> 01:55:13,770 plane? That crashed and Russia was not? I think I think was one 1961 01:55:13,770 --> 01:55:14,100 of those then 1962 01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:15,480 John C Dvorak: you have to have a grudge forever 1963 01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:22,950 Adam Curry: brothers. man whose Tusq Yeah, it's it's bad. That 1964 01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:25,380 so that oh, we're gonna be buying on the international 1965 01:55:25,380 --> 01:55:29,460 market. Yep. Come on by. Bring us your PowerPoint. Where's your 1966 01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:32,970 sales pitch? That's because we're leaving them high and dry. 1967 01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:36,780 I think we're just like, go ahead buy do whatever you got to 1968 01:55:36,780 --> 01:55:39,690 do we don't care we're not part of that. Love 1969 01:55:39,690 --> 01:55:44,100 John C Dvorak: we seem to look as if and then they have good 1970 01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:47,130 because they've been held it up. I mean, that would be our 1971 01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:51,840 Johnson holding it up in the in Congress now. Now we're gonna 1972 01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:57,330 sit on this. And maybe the whole thing is just a we're watching a 1973 01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:01,410 another play unfold where the Democrats are going, Oh, you got 1974 01:56:01,410 --> 01:56:03,660 to get us the money. And the other guy saying no, we're not 1975 01:56:03,660 --> 01:56:06,180 gonna get you the money. And they're it's all a scheme 1976 01:56:06,270 --> 01:56:10,530 they've known all along. That's where they can throw out the big 1977 01:56:10,620 --> 01:56:12,060 60 billion 1978 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:18,060 Adam Curry: Sure. Which is 60,000 million. It's amazing. A 1979 01:56:18,060 --> 01:56:19,200 lot of money. It 1980 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:20,670 John C Dvorak: would fix a lot of potholes. 1981 01:56:22,740 --> 01:56:26,160 Adam Curry: I wanted to you know, this is an interesting 1982 01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:35,400 case. This is that school child who was trans and was bullied 1983 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:40,860 and then committed suicide. The child's name is next, I think 1984 01:56:40,890 --> 01:56:46,530 next to find trans name. But listening to this NBC report, I 1985 01:56:46,530 --> 01:56:51,390 was just blown away. That they blame it on everything except 1986 01:56:51,390 --> 01:56:58,140 the obvious the complete obvious issue that is going on with our 1987 01:56:58,140 --> 01:56:59,490 children. A Heartbreaking 1988 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,220 Unknown: update to a story we brought you last month the death 1989 01:57:02,220 --> 01:57:05,010 of Oklahoma's student next Benedict has been ruled a 1990 01:57:05,010 --> 01:57:08,160 suicide according to the state medical examiner, friends and 1991 01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:12,210 family said the 16 year old was transgender and had been bullied 1992 01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,810 a number of times at schools. NBC News correspondent Antonia 1993 01:57:15,810 --> 01:57:18,900 Hildon has been following this story and joins us now Antonia, 1994 01:57:19,290 --> 01:57:22,680 what else did the medical examiner's report say? Well, 1995 01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:26,640 Alison, this report showed that next Benedict committed suicide 1996 01:57:27,090 --> 01:57:31,110 by using or taking in a combination of antihistamines 1997 01:57:31,110 --> 01:57:35,550 and antidepressants at a toxic level. Just one day after 1998 01:57:35,550 --> 01:57:39,210 friends and family say that next was attacked in a bathroom by 1999 01:57:39,210 --> 01:57:43,050 three classmates, after next had thrown water on them for making 2000 01:57:43,050 --> 01:57:47,370 fun of the way that he and a friend were dressed. And so what 2001 01:57:47,370 --> 01:57:49,800 we've heard from students and some community members who've 2002 01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:53,640 spoken to NBC news is that there is a culture there in this 2003 01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:58,110 school of that bullying, and that in some ways they feel like 2004 01:57:58,110 --> 01:58:01,500 next has been failed by his community. And this is a story 2005 01:58:01,500 --> 01:58:04,170 that's now spread across the country. Even the President has 2006 01:58:04,170 --> 01:58:07,680 released a statement saying that in memory of Next, we must all 2007 01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,830 recommit to our work to end discrimination and address the 2008 01:58:10,830 --> 01:58:14,820 suicide crisis impacting too many non binary and transgender 2009 01:58:14,820 --> 01:58:18,390 children. And so this is really for many people becoming a 2010 01:58:18,390 --> 01:58:21,390 rallying cry. Another example of the way in which the culture 2011 01:58:21,390 --> 01:58:26,400 wars, anti LGBTQ legislation and rhetoric is having a real impact 2012 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,830 on families, schools and kids. So 2013 01:58:28,830 --> 01:58:31,020 Adam Curry: I asked you, John, what was the thing you heard in 2014 01:58:31,020 --> 01:58:34,710 that report? That might actually be the cause of suicidal 2015 01:58:34,710 --> 01:58:35,880 tendencies? 2016 01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:40,770 John C Dvorak: I in that report, I didn't hear anything 2017 01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,110 specifically. I must have missed it. How 2018 01:58:43,110 --> 01:58:47,160 Adam Curry: about the Eau de being on antidepressants? Oh, 2019 01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:47,460 good 2020 01:58:47,460 --> 01:58:48,930 John C Dvorak: point. That's a catch. Yeah, 2021 01:58:48,930 --> 01:58:50,670 Adam Curry: hold the whole thing. You 2022 01:58:50,670 --> 01:58:51,990 John C Dvorak: Where did you get those? 2023 01:58:52,020 --> 01:58:54,360 Adam Curry: It's antidepressants. These children 2024 01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:59,700 are jacked on on drugs. And the antidepressants are making them 2025 01:58:59,700 --> 01:59:05,550 more depressed. But oh, no. It's anti LGBTQ legislation. It's 2026 01:59:05,550 --> 01:59:07,350 bullying. And today, let's 2027 01:59:07,350 --> 01:59:08,880 Unknown: talk a little more about that. Because you have 2028 01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,570 reported so extensively on all of this across the United 2029 01:59:12,570 --> 01:59:16,260 States, I mean, LGBTQ plus advocates, they say this is part 2030 01:59:16,260 --> 01:59:19,950 of the larger onslaught of legislation that has made trans 2031 01:59:19,950 --> 01:59:24,330 students feel and become less safe when they're at school. 2032 01:59:24,780 --> 01:59:27,630 What specifically, are they arguing? And when we're talking 2033 01:59:27,630 --> 01:59:30,690 about this bigger pattern and your broader reporting, how does 2034 01:59:30,690 --> 01:59:33,300 all of this tie in? Well, Alison, what they're effectively 2035 01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:36,480 arguing is that when we talk about policy, when we talk about 2036 01:59:36,570 --> 01:59:39,300 books being banned in schools, it may sound like these are 2037 01:59:39,300 --> 01:59:42,900 theoretical things or just minor policy differences that adults 2038 01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:45,570 are debating at the Capitol or, Oh, it's 2039 01:59:45,570 --> 01:59:47,370 Adam Curry: the book banning that killed him school board 2040 01:59:47,370 --> 01:59:47,760 meetings, 2041 01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,490 Unknown: but they actually in the view of civil rights 2042 01:59:50,490 --> 01:59:54,060 organizers, lawyers, many educators and advocates, they 2043 01:59:54,060 --> 01:59:57,480 actually have a direct impact on the mental health of children. 2044 01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:01,350 It can affect their health outcomes there. Safety at home. 2045 02:00:01,380 --> 02:00:04,680 And that's what Nexus case really represents to all them. 2046 02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:08,460 You can see there on the screen survey from 2022 by the Trevor 2047 02:00:08,460 --> 02:00:13,530 Project found that more than 40% of youth about the ages of 13 to 2048 02:00:13,530 --> 02:00:17,400 24, on drugs seriously considered suicide, and that the 2049 02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:20,130 rates are actually higher for transgender and non binary 2050 02:00:20,130 --> 02:00:23,340 children. And when you talk to doctors, wait 2051 02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:26,520 Adam Curry: a minute, wait a minute, I thought that if you 2052 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:30,450 didn't let your child transition, that you'd have a 2053 02:00:30,450 --> 02:00:32,580 dead daughter instead of a living son 2054 02:00:32,610 --> 02:00:35,190 Unknown: suicide, and that the rates are actually higher for 2055 02:00:35,190 --> 02:00:38,100 transgender and non binary children. And when you talk to 2056 02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:41,160 doctors, I've spoken to everyone from the medical community to 2057 02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,650 educators, what they say is there is a connection between 2058 02:00:43,650 --> 02:00:46,770 our culture war and these health outcomes. Oh, 2059 02:00:46,770 --> 02:00:48,990 John C Dvorak: yeah. It's always a culture war 2060 02:00:48,990 --> 02:00:53,490 Adam Curry: and these health outcomes. No, it's the drugs 2061 02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:58,710 it's, first of all. The kids aren't eating any any healthy 2062 02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:05,610 food. They're eating sugar and chemicals and crap. So they have 2063 02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:11,610 protein deficiency, sugar, and then you're jacking them up with 2064 02:01:11,610 --> 02:01:15,330 drugs and then drugs to combat the side effects of those drugs. 2065 02:01:15,420 --> 02:01:19,650 I pray for our children. This is horrible that particularly NBC 2066 02:01:19,650 --> 02:01:23,160 shameful, shameful to blame it on. 2067 02:01:24,420 --> 02:01:27,480 John C Dvorak: Bullying is the last time drugs were ever 2068 02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:30,900 mentioned as the nexus of a problem. Never on network 2069 02:01:30,900 --> 02:01:31,740 television. No, of 2070 02:01:31,740 --> 02:01:33,540 Adam Curry: course they're not never ever. 2071 02:01:33,570 --> 02:01:34,770 John C Dvorak: Never Never. 2072 02:01:35,190 --> 02:01:37,800 Adam Curry: You got to go to a podcast. Yay. 2073 02:01:39,300 --> 02:01:41,250 John C Dvorak: All right. Now if the state now 2074 02:01:41,250 --> 02:01:44,400 Adam Curry: let's talk by the way, you don't have to email us 2075 02:01:44,430 --> 02:01:49,050 when when we show you terms like new commerce being used. We know 2076 02:01:49,050 --> 02:01:53,190 that this was all in Alien Nation, and V and all these 2077 02:01:53,190 --> 02:01:56,400 different TV shows. That's why we extended it was I think where 2078 02:01:56,400 --> 02:02:00,060 it was. Yes. That's that's why we that's why we accentuate it. 2079 02:02:01,710 --> 02:02:05,370 And people also say, Well, you know, Adam, you're talking about 2080 02:02:05,370 --> 02:02:10,230 the former banker who says, you know, the financial system loves 2081 02:02:10,230 --> 02:02:17,310 having these illegals come in to our country, because they get 2082 02:02:17,310 --> 02:02:20,340 to, you know, it's money. It's money in the bank. And they 2083 02:02:20,340 --> 02:02:23,100 don't really understand that. I'll just give you one little 2084 02:02:23,100 --> 02:02:29,010 example here in Chicago, and it's not surprising 2085 02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:31,860 Unknown: outside the largest migrant shelter in the city 2086 02:02:31,890 --> 02:02:37,650 lunchtime has become a business. Watch as a car delivering 2087 02:02:37,650 --> 02:02:44,040 Venezuelan soup rolls up. The makeshift business is run by 2088 02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:48,570 former shelter residents who saw need as complaints about free 2089 02:02:48,570 --> 02:02:50,340 meals came up or 2090 02:02:50,340 --> 02:02:55,110 a blurry like a lamb began they began the new rivals 2091 02:02:55,110 --> 02:02:58,350 are choosing to use their own money to pay for food even as a 2092 02:02:58,350 --> 02:03:02,070 city signs multi million dollar contracts with two different 2093 02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:05,250 businesses to feed them. WGN investigates took a look at 2094 02:03:05,250 --> 02:03:09,270 those contracts and payments. 77 communities meal service has 2095 02:03:09,270 --> 02:03:14,280 already been paid 3.7 million to feed migrants but could stand to 2096 02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:19,050 make as much as 45 million. A second company 14 parishes 2097 02:03:19,050 --> 02:03:22,530 received 3.8 million according to city records, with the 2098 02:03:22,530 --> 02:03:27,090 potential to make more than $57 million. The residents who are 2099 02:03:27,090 --> 02:03:31,050 choosing to skip the free food and eat outside gave us images 2100 02:03:31,050 --> 02:03:35,370 of the city provided meals say they may look fine, but taste 2101 02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:38,880 terrible. This isn't the first time complaints are made. The 2102 02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:42,210 city even switched vendors earlier this year hoping to 2103 02:03:42,210 --> 02:03:46,710 address the issues. But Trouble has come up again. And we did 2104 02:03:46,710 --> 02:03:50,970 contact the food vendor for that Pilsen shelter 14 parish they 2105 02:03:50,970 --> 02:03:53,910 tell us that they are meeting all the nutritional requirements 2106 02:03:53,910 --> 02:03:57,060 in that city contract. Meanwhile, the story also brings 2107 02:03:57,060 --> 02:04:00,330 up some questions about how much food is provided at shelters. 2108 02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:04,260 There is no mandate in place but it is part of the city's effort 2109 02:04:04,380 --> 02:04:07,770 to meet the meet basic needs of new arrivals, new 2110 02:04:07,770 --> 02:04:12,270 Adam Curry: arrivals. The new arrivals, they're like What are 2111 02:04:12,270 --> 02:04:13,980 you people eating here? 2112 02:04:15,030 --> 02:04:17,610 John C Dvorak: That's the irony. The whole thing is hilarious. 2113 02:04:17,610 --> 02:04:20,790 That woman she there's fascist who's got no flavor. It's 2114 02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:24,060 Adam Curry: just terrible and they just throw hot spice in it 2115 02:04:24,060 --> 02:04:27,540 and it's crap and when I took out some because it was 2116 02:04:27,540 --> 02:04:30,660 subtitle, but just like this crap the kids won't eat no one 2117 02:04:30,660 --> 02:04:34,080 wants is horrible. And you look at the pictures. Yeah, that's 2118 02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:39,330 exactly what we eat. Americans eat in our ready meals from the 2119 02:04:39,330 --> 02:04:43,590 supermarket just heat it up. You're starving yourself of 2120 02:04:43,620 --> 02:04:52,290 essential nutrients. New arrivals. That was the marketing 2121 02:04:52,290 --> 02:04:55,710 on tick tock was probably a little off, wasn't it? New 2122 02:04:55,710 --> 02:05:02,790 arrivals, newcomers new arrivals. Oh man. Um hi yeah. Oh 2123 02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:03,390 yeah, yeah. 2124 02:05:03,930 --> 02:05:06,900 John C Dvorak: I have a couple. I have a leftover clip I want to 2125 02:05:06,900 --> 02:05:11,160 play. That is because I want to discuss the language used in the 2126 02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:15,090 clip okay. And it's just been update we talked about this 2127 02:05:15,090 --> 02:05:18,120 before a million times but I was I'm always thinking why are they 2128 02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:21,840 using this language and I they all I think it's because they 2129 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:26,700 want a simplification of a meme. Play the the story about the 2130 02:05:26,700 --> 02:05:30,840 Trenton shooter Trenton shooter. 2131 02:05:31,050 --> 02:05:33,420 Unknown: police have surrounded a home in Trenton New Jersey at 2132 02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:37,290 this hour where a 26 year old shooting suspect has barricaded 2133 02:05:37,290 --> 02:05:40,050 himself. Trenton Police say the residents of the home have been 2134 02:05:40,050 --> 02:05:45,240 evacuated. The suspect is armed with an AR 15 style long gun and 2135 02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:48,300 is believed to have killed at least three people in Falls 2136 02:05:48,300 --> 02:05:51,660 Township, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Philadelphia. Ar 2137 02:05:51,660 --> 02:05:54,450 Adam Curry: 15 style long gun. Yeah, 2138 02:05:54,930 --> 02:05:56,550 John C Dvorak: I mean of course you could call it an assault 2139 02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:59,220 weapon if you don't call it an assault weapon. You call it a 2140 02:05:59,220 --> 02:06:06,270 long gun. How about this? It's a rifle. Yeah, now why do they 2141 02:06:06,270 --> 02:06:10,680 keep using long gun instead of rifle? It's a rifle. It looks 2142 02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:14,040 like a rifle. It shoots like a rifle it's a rifle you hold it 2143 02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:17,220 like a rifle it's not like a you don't hold like a gun. I believe 2144 02:06:17,340 --> 02:06:18,210 like a rifle. 2145 02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:21,450 Adam Curry: I think the long gun terminology is a trigger from 2146 02:06:21,450 --> 02:06:24,120 the from Sandy hooks. Hook. 2147 02:06:24,810 --> 02:06:26,850 John C Dvorak: I think it's I think it's part of the 2148 02:06:26,850 --> 02:06:31,950 simplification project. We have to ban guns. There's the guns 2149 02:06:31,950 --> 02:06:35,730 and rifles it said it makes it too complicated. We have to ban 2150 02:06:35,730 --> 02:06:39,030 guns I think so everything's a gun it's got a rifle it's not a 2151 02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:43,260 shotgun it's it's a gun it's a it's a gun just a gun. So all 2152 02:06:43,260 --> 02:06:46,740 guns should be banned. And by calling these things long guns. 2153 02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:50,520 It's good goes in that same category. I think it's a scam. A 2154 02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,260 usage scan. Interesting 2155 02:06:52,260 --> 02:06:56,640 Adam Curry: point. Interesting point. Well, while we're on the 2156 02:06:57,030 --> 02:06:59,820 John C Dvorak: it's called gun control, not rifle control. 2157 02:07:01,770 --> 02:07:03,930 Adam Curry: But while we're on the topic, you had this in the 2158 02:07:03,930 --> 02:07:05,730 newsletter I brought the clip James 2159 02:07:05,730 --> 02:07:08,460 Unknown: crumbly hearing his fate inside of the same 2160 02:07:08,460 --> 02:07:12,240 courtroom where his wife Jennifer was also found guilty 2161 02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:15,990 on all four counts of involuntary manslaughter. One 2162 02:07:15,990 --> 02:07:19,620 count for each student who was killed more than two years ago 2163 02:07:19,620 --> 02:07:23,010 at Oxford High School. It took this jury more than eight and a 2164 02:07:23,010 --> 02:07:27,540 half hours to reach that verdict. The jury of six men, 2165 02:07:27,570 --> 02:07:32,280 six women split evenly. Some of them are gun owners, some of 2166 02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:36,210 them also parents as that verdict was read. James crumbly, 2167 02:07:36,210 --> 02:07:40,200 shook his head. Also in the courtroom, parents of the 2168 02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:43,740 students who were killed the mother of Madison Baldwin, her 2169 02:07:43,740 --> 02:07:47,880 name is Nicole. She wept as the jury for person read that 2170 02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:51,450 verdict. I want to take you back over what the prosecution's key 2171 02:07:51,450 --> 02:07:56,730 argument was arguing in part that this school shooting was 2172 02:07:56,730 --> 02:08:01,440 preventable and foreseeable. by James crumbling. The prosecutor 2173 02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:05,760 arguing over a course of four days prosecution brought various 2174 02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:09,870 witnesses to the stand. 14 of them were the same witnesses we 2175 02:08:09,870 --> 02:08:13,350 heard from an agenda for Crumbley trial, but saying that 2176 02:08:13,380 --> 02:08:16,860 James crumbly who was responsible for storing the gun 2177 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,760 could have taken better steps to prevent all of this from 2178 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:21,600 happening. Tom, 2179 02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:26,340 Adam Curry: this is a hot button topic. People have very varying 2180 02:08:26,340 --> 02:08:29,970 opinions on this I think you're on board with a throw the throw 2181 02:08:29,970 --> 02:08:30,900 the parents in jail? 2182 02:08:32,070 --> 02:08:34,230 John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not necessarily on board with it. 2183 02:08:34,230 --> 02:08:37,320 But I think it's a definite trend because this will this 2184 02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:40,620 will allow people to the law enforcement in particular which 2185 02:08:40,620 --> 02:08:44,640 is having nothing but trouble they got their short people they 2186 02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:47,700 you know, like the Oakland can't even keep a Taco Bell open for 2187 02:08:47,700 --> 02:08:53,010 God's sake. How pathetic is that? Because of the crime Yeah. 2188 02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:56,760 If you start to give you introduces with whites, you 2189 02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:59,190 can't do this with a black person yet but this is where 2190 02:08:59,190 --> 02:09:02,370 it's headed. Because especially the black family which has been 2191 02:09:02,370 --> 02:09:05,280 disrupted largely by Democrat policies would won't allow 2192 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,160 fathers to live with the mothers a man who sought a man that's 2193 02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:14,520 right. And he sort of welfare going on. To leverage the 2194 02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:18,420 mother, especially black mothers, leveraged the mom was 2195 02:09:18,420 --> 02:09:21,990 you're going to start shooting people, you your mom's going to 2196 02:09:21,990 --> 02:09:25,020 jail. Because we're talking about what the real problem is 2197 02:09:25,020 --> 02:09:27,660 with mostly with juveniles. Isn't that I mean, adult crime 2198 02:09:27,660 --> 02:09:34,290 is different. But this random juvenile crime of all sorts will 2199 02:09:34,290 --> 02:09:38,610 be leveraged in the future by by arresting the mom and see what 2200 02:09:38,610 --> 02:09:43,800 you think of that kid. You think going into the direction where 2201 02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:47,040 you're going to see parents arrested for everything, not 2202 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:50,430 just murdering a guy, as I mentioned in the newsletter is 2203 02:09:50,430 --> 02:09:55,020 going to go beyond murder. It'll be you know, being in a gang or 2204 02:09:55,020 --> 02:09:57,330 whatever it's going to be beating somebody up it's going 2205 02:09:57,330 --> 02:10:00,990 to be for, for Assault or Battery. Grab the parents 2206 02:10:00,990 --> 02:10:03,450 grabbed the parents and then where it goes from there would 2207 02:10:03,450 --> 02:10:07,680 be once you're an adult and you started committing crimes, the 2208 02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:11,760 parents can still be blamed especially the mothers. This is 2209 02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:16,290 an attack on the this is going to go in that direction. I I 2210 02:10:16,290 --> 02:10:20,400 mean, I think it's interesting I don't I don't like where it's 2211 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:24,000 headed. But that's it's obvious that's where it has to happen. 2212 02:10:25,260 --> 02:10:28,050 Wow, to get a handle on crime in this country you're going to 2213 02:10:28,050 --> 02:10:29,700 have to start arresting the parents 2214 02:10:32,100 --> 02:10:38,280 Adam Curry: Jhansi Dvorak for Governor for mayor of Oakland 2215 02:10:40,410 --> 02:10:46,020 Hmm, wow. Well, in this case, I mean, gun safety and 2216 02:10:46,020 --> 02:10:52,530 carelessness with your firearm. That is offensive. I mean, if if 2217 02:10:52,530 --> 02:10:55,200 you got kids in the house you got to you gotta have your your 2218 02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:58,110 stuff locked up. You know, you gotta have you gotta this this 2219 02:10:58,110 --> 02:11:03,390 basic gun safety. You just have kid grabbing your gun. So 2220 02:11:03,390 --> 02:11:08,100 there's something to be said for that. Yeah, but because I 2221 02:11:09,450 --> 02:11:12,540 John C Dvorak: kid are these lunatics that are out there. You 2222 02:11:12,540 --> 02:11:15,420 could you could throw the book at the parents for all of them 2223 02:11:15,420 --> 02:11:20,160 all the shooters. And I think this is just a test case to see 2224 02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:22,890 what their public's reaction is the public's gonna go Yeah, 2225 02:11:23,310 --> 02:11:24,210 seems reasonable. 2226 02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:25,560 Adam Curry: But you know, what's next? You know, it's 2227 02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:26,790 John C Dvorak: open the gates. 2228 02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:30,540 Adam Curry: So once you get some school shooter, you know another 2229 02:11:30,540 --> 02:11:33,630 one, those blue haired Nashville shooters, arrested teachers. 2230 02:11:36,420 --> 02:11:37,800 John C Dvorak: If you happen, it's your fault. 2231 02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:39,240 Adam Curry: We have your tick tock. 2232 02:11:40,020 --> 02:11:41,640 John C Dvorak: You can start arresting it. Well, I still 2233 02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:44,910 think that doctors is going to start to go down because of the 2234 02:11:44,910 --> 02:11:49,290 trends you know they've reversed transitioners suing left and 2235 02:11:49,290 --> 02:11:52,230 right and it's gonna get worse and worse and worse. Yeah, this 2236 02:11:52,230 --> 02:11:56,580 whole situation with this legal system is going to be stressed 2237 02:11:56,580 --> 02:11:59,760 with these sorts of lawsuits over the next few years. Yeah, 2238 02:11:59,850 --> 02:12:02,040 and and criminal lawsuits. 2239 02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:08,100 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, up in Canada Navia. were crying crime 2240 02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:15,210 is getting pretty bad. People are stealing cars and Toronto 2241 02:12:15,210 --> 02:12:18,630 has a Toronto Police have some advice for the people who are 2242 02:12:19,020 --> 02:12:20,580 plagued by this crime. 2243 02:12:20,610 --> 02:12:22,260 Unknown: There's also updated advice 2244 02:12:22,260 --> 02:12:25,410 for all vehicle owners a message echoed by Toronto Police 2245 02:12:25,410 --> 02:12:28,740 speaking at an a tobacco safety meeting last month, Constable 2246 02:12:28,740 --> 02:12:31,950 Marco Ricci already had a new message for vehicle owners who 2247 02:12:31,950 --> 02:12:34,470 keep their fobs in Faraday pouches 2248 02:12:34,770 --> 02:12:38,460 to prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home. 2249 02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:40,140 Leave your father's at your front door 2250 02:12:40,170 --> 02:12:43,110 so breaking into your home to steal your car. They 2251 02:12:43,110 --> 02:12:45,900 don't want anything else. A lot of them that they're arresting 2252 02:12:45,900 --> 02:12:48,720 have guns on them, and they're not toy guns. They're real guns. 2253 02:12:48,810 --> 02:12:50,190 They're loaded. So 2254 02:12:50,190 --> 02:12:53,010 Adam Curry: just just leave your keys on the porch. 2255 02:12:54,030 --> 02:12:55,980 John C Dvorak: Let's just leave them in the 2256 02:12:55,980 --> 02:13:00,810 Adam Curry: car. Yeah, just exactly. When 87 When I was in 2257 02:13:00,810 --> 02:13:06,030 New York was crime was bad in 87. This is before Giuliani and 2258 02:13:06,060 --> 02:13:08,880 Commissioner Bratton came in and cleaned it all up and threw 2259 02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:13,440 everybody in the East River. Whatever they did. You would see 2260 02:13:13,470 --> 02:13:18,660 cars parked throughout Manhattan with the windows open with a 2261 02:13:18,660 --> 02:13:22,680 sign on the windshield no radio. Everything was just open. 2262 02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:25,050 John C Dvorak: There Steve that's the era when they were 2263 02:13:25,050 --> 02:13:29,700 stealing radios your car what was that market? I never even 2264 02:13:29,700 --> 02:13:32,820 been here would you like to buy a radio? Oh yeah, that was that 2265 02:13:32,820 --> 02:13:34,650 was the squeegee era Yes, 2266 02:13:34,650 --> 02:13:36,120 Adam Curry: it was a squeak that's what I'm told the 2267 02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:40,110 squeegee guys just disappeared. Disappeared pretty much 2268 02:13:40,110 --> 02:13:43,320 overnight but everyone just left their car cars completely open 2269 02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:46,260 go ahead get in whatever take a look around. There's nothing in 2270 02:13:46,260 --> 02:13:50,430 here. Nothing to steal windows wide open. It was the craziest 2271 02:13:50,430 --> 02:13:54,330 thing. But now it's like put your fob in a carrot Faraday 2272 02:13:54,330 --> 02:14:02,670 cage and leave it on the porch with an arrow FOB here that's 2273 02:14:02,670 --> 02:14:04,110 not what does it 2274 02:14:04,110 --> 02:14:07,410 John C Dvorak: come to candidates gets a lot of weird 2275 02:14:07,410 --> 02:14:10,200 we should do a special show on some of the weirdness going up 2276 02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:13,800 bought up in Canada where they're having a hate speech as 2277 02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:17,820 a life sentence. As some one of the promises wow 2278 02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:24,420 Adam Curry: you know Moe just sent me that link to her to a 2279 02:14:24,420 --> 02:14:31,380 video it's 12 seconds I'm gonna play it but it says rat grilling 2280 02:14:31,380 --> 02:14:34,680 in New York City is getting more popular with migrants as New 2281 02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:38,910 York's rat problem gets worse by the day. And most comment is 2282 02:14:38,910 --> 02:14:43,680 Demolition Man was a prophecy. She remember Demolition Man. And 2283 02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:45,870 people were living underground they were eating rats. 2284 02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:49,410 John C Dvorak: Come on during the French Revolution a bunch of 2285 02:14:49,410 --> 02:14:51,960 rat recipes showed up in the in the market and people were 2286 02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:53,550 eating rats in France. But this 2287 02:14:53,580 --> 02:14:55,500 Adam Curry: but this this is kind of solves a couple of 2288 02:14:55,500 --> 02:15:00,450 problems. The new arrivals don't have to eat our crappy expensive 2289 02:15:00,450 --> 02:15:04,650 food ethnic gets rid of rats. I'm not kind of liking this now. 2290 02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:10,440 Brother We live in a broken world 2291 02:15:12,630 --> 02:15:14,910 John C Dvorak: here's an obscure story that we can play this the 2292 02:15:14,910 --> 02:15:18,960 air a boycott of us this is nobody's talking about this. NPR 2293 02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:20,160 mentioned it once some 2294 02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:22,980 Unknown: people angry about the US supplying weapons to Israel 2295 02:15:22,980 --> 02:15:26,640 and its war with Hamas are boycotting US brands in Paris 2296 02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:29,580 Jana Raff reports it spread through many Arab countries 2297 02:15:29,580 --> 02:15:30,570 including Jordan 2298 02:15:30,630 --> 02:15:34,440 in bustling downtown in mind, the Starbucks branch is almost 2299 02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:39,750 empty. But next door a homegrown Jordanian coffee chain astrolabe 2300 02:15:39,990 --> 02:15:43,560 is filled with customers. Many of them young people mostly say 2301 02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:47,130 they no longer go to Starbucks because of its perceived support 2302 02:15:47,130 --> 02:15:50,430 for Israel. In fact, a lot of people like saying the doll 2303 02:15:50,610 --> 02:15:53,880 consult an app when deciding how to spend their money. So 2304 02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:57,600 you can put any brand or product name and it will tell you why 2305 02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:01,260 it's boycott. Like how does it support Israel? It's 2306 02:16:01,260 --> 02:16:04,560 the same at McDonald's and in supermarkets where shelves of 2307 02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:08,010 Coke and Pepsi have been replaced by local cola. It's led 2308 02:16:08,010 --> 02:16:11,640 to layoffs of Jordanian workers as well as hurt some US company 2309 02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:14,700 profits. Who's doing the boycotting? Say it's the only 2310 02:16:14,700 --> 02:16:18,510 way they can send a message that the war in Gaza has to stop Jane 2311 02:16:18,510 --> 02:16:20,580 Arraf NPR news, Amman. 2312 02:16:21,300 --> 02:16:26,040 John C Dvorak: Wow. This is a major deal. Yeah, well, we 2313 02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:28,560 Adam Curry: already had we already kind of had the human 2314 02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:34,260 here we had the what was it to boycott divest was the other one 2315 02:16:37,020 --> 02:16:41,070 John C Dvorak: was to boycott divest me as DDB whatever it is. 2316 02:16:41,610 --> 02:16:41,700 I 2317 02:16:41,700 --> 02:16:44,010 Adam Curry: forget what it is now. Yeah, that kind of that 2318 02:16:44,010 --> 02:16:48,210 kind of went away. Was it should be those guys time to shine. I 2319 02:16:48,210 --> 02:16:52,290 don't understand. Boycott, divest and some to come on 2320 02:16:52,290 --> 02:16:57,540 trolls. Help me out. It was BDS BDS movement, boycott, divest. 2321 02:16:57,540 --> 02:17:02,790 And squirrely sanction? No. Thanks, bull moose sanction. 2322 02:17:02,790 --> 02:17:07,500 Yes. Yeah, that just went away. Interesting. Good point. No, 2323 02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:08,760 just at 2324 02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:11,070 John C Dvorak: a must have been one of those operations that had 2325 02:17:11,100 --> 02:17:13,560 you know, a strong leader. And once the guy gets 2326 02:17:13,649 --> 02:17:17,009 Adam Curry: well, Roger Waters, Roger Waters, the end. And 2327 02:17:17,009 --> 02:17:20,489 what's the what's the girl's name? Who had we used to be on 2328 02:17:20,489 --> 02:17:26,099 our tea? She's Abby Maher. Andy Martin. Yeah, they were always 2329 02:17:26,339 --> 02:17:28,229 just going on and on about it. 2330 02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:31,320 John C Dvorak: Abby Martin showed up in some other 2331 02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:33,990 screwball operation recently. 2332 02:17:34,380 --> 02:17:37,560 Adam Curry: I thought she was just doing podcasts. Well, that 2333 02:17:37,560 --> 02:17:42,570 is a screwball operation, I guess. By definition, speaking 2334 02:17:42,570 --> 02:17:48,060 of which, this is a value for value podcast, I talked about in 2335 02:17:48,060 --> 02:17:52,110 the beginning of the show. We don't have any commercials or 2336 02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:56,730 corporate money, and we don't have a tick tock lobby, we 2337 02:17:56,729 --> 02:17:59,399 John C Dvorak: wouldn't be able to do any analysis whatsoever. 2338 02:17:59,519 --> 02:18:02,249 No, if we had any corporate money in the show would not be 2339 02:18:02,249 --> 02:18:04,769 as good and people should appreciate that. I think that 2340 02:18:04,769 --> 02:18:07,169 they're losing their appreciation of it ever since 2341 02:18:07,169 --> 02:18:08,459 COVID. died down? 2342 02:18:09,930 --> 02:18:12,840 Adam Curry: Well, it always takes a couple of years for 2343 02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:16,290 people to realize. So I think that, you know, don't remember 2344 02:18:16,290 --> 02:18:20,250 when when Ukraine kicked off. You guys on the wrong side of 2345 02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:24,270 history, each round behavior. It is and we knew right away that 2346 02:18:24,270 --> 02:18:27,210 this was a whole military industrial complex sales job. 2347 02:18:27,780 --> 02:18:31,920 Yeah. And we called it and people call this horrible. Now, 2348 02:18:31,950 --> 02:18:36,990 it's not easy doing. You have to stick to your guns. I mean, we 2349 02:18:36,990 --> 02:18:40,680 can change opinions if something changes midstream. But I think 2350 02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:42,870 we've pretty we've held on pretty steadfast, 2351 02:18:43,290 --> 02:18:47,070 John C Dvorak: consistent. Yeah. Which is what you want from a No 2352 02:18:47,070 --> 02:18:50,640 Adam Curry: Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We're getting 2353 02:18:50,670 --> 02:18:55,020 Zionist checks for protecting Israel. That's the That's the 2354 02:18:55,020 --> 02:18:57,390 latest, you know, this. Yeah, 2355 02:18:57,419 --> 02:18:59,309 John C Dvorak: I don't get that one. Because I don't think that 2356 02:18:59,309 --> 02:19:01,679 we're that pro Israel period. Now, 2357 02:19:01,680 --> 02:19:04,260 Adam Curry: but we're not saying enough. It's the silence. 2358 02:19:04,290 --> 02:19:05,910 Silence is violence. 2359 02:19:07,770 --> 02:19:09,720 John C Dvorak: One of the reasons we're not saying enough, 2360 02:19:10,410 --> 02:19:14,550 is because the information we're being provided by the propaganda 2361 02:19:14,550 --> 02:19:19,200 system is not worth analyzing, because it's bogus on both 2362 02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:24,960 sides. Besides these Hamas, dead body count, which is from from 2363 02:19:24,960 --> 02:19:29,490 Hamas, literally, which has been analyzed, by the way by a 2364 02:19:29,490 --> 02:19:33,270 statistician that was on my club man, he was on the Mark Levin 2365 02:19:33,270 --> 02:19:33,690 show. 2366 02:19:33,720 --> 02:19:36,780 Adam Curry: It's also stuck at 30,000. It's also stuck at 2367 02:19:36,780 --> 02:19:40,230 30,000 hasn't budged above 30,000 In a couple of weeks. 2368 02:19:40,350 --> 02:19:42,390 John C Dvorak: It comes in Yeah, well, this guy looked at the 2369 02:19:42,390 --> 02:19:45,270 numbers and says these numbers are all bogus because it's not 2370 02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:50,430 possible based on the statistics. And whereas Mark 2371 02:19:50,430 --> 02:19:56,370 Levin is a war monger and Yeah, exactly. We're no longer likes 2372 02:19:56,370 --> 02:20:00,840 the likes the Israeli position and he's all I'm giving more 2373 02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:02,940 money to Ukraine. So yeah, yeah. 2374 02:20:04,319 --> 02:20:07,469 Adam Curry: Yeah. And we'll see how good Mike Johnson does. I 2375 02:20:07,469 --> 02:20:11,819 think I think he's, you know, they're gonna try and force him 2376 02:20:11,819 --> 02:20:14,759 to do that. I'm gonna force him to bring a build 2377 02:20:14,760 --> 02:20:17,190 John C Dvorak: Michael Johnson. I'm still thinking he's looks 2378 02:20:17,190 --> 02:20:17,790 spooky to 2379 02:20:17,790 --> 02:20:20,400 Adam Curry: me. So I spoke yesterday to a guy named Rick 2380 02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:24,210 Green. He's building this thing here in comfort, which is nearby 2381 02:20:24,210 --> 02:20:27,480 Fredericksburg called The Patriot Academy. Really a great 2382 02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:31,110 idea. And you know, their rhetoric replicating the House, 2383 02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:34,380 the Senate the committee chambers? What, 2384 02:20:34,410 --> 02:20:36,840 John C Dvorak: really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, it sounds like a photo 2385 02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:37,290 op. 2386 02:20:37,470 --> 02:20:40,470 Adam Curry: Oh, it's been. I mean, this pretty big. This is a 2387 02:20:40,470 --> 02:20:43,530 big a big place. They've done this all over the country. But 2388 02:20:43,530 --> 02:20:47,250 now they've decided to do it, you know, inhabit a campus. And 2389 02:20:47,250 --> 02:20:51,330 so it's off Route 87. And they'll bring an H in it. 24 2390 02:20:51,330 --> 02:20:55,350 year olds, and they learn how to get a bill into committee what a 2391 02:20:55,350 --> 02:21:00,600 bill is basically a school of rock. Only real hands on 2392 02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:03,720 John C Dvorak: what our high schools are. normal kids like 2393 02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:05,040 everybody in this country. 2394 02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:07,650 Adam Curry: There you go. And then in addition to that, you 2395 02:21:07,650 --> 02:21:11,820 get a two day handgun and concealed handgun course. So 2396 02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:16,110 they got a beautiful range out there. And so Mike was in the 2397 02:21:16,140 --> 02:21:20,580 Texas Senate for a couple of years. And, and he knows Mike 2398 02:21:20,580 --> 02:21:24,930 Johnson. And I say, Dude, that guy looks like a spook. He 2399 02:21:24,930 --> 02:21:28,470 cracks up he says, I'm gonna have to tell him that I said, 2400 02:21:28,500 --> 02:21:30,990 Don't you think so? He looks either looks like he's a high 2401 02:21:30,990 --> 02:21:35,730 school nerd or spook or both. And he goes, Yeah, he's got a 2402 02:21:35,730 --> 02:21:39,510 kind of laughing it off. So I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna 2403 02:21:39,510 --> 02:21:43,080 be mining Rick Green for more information. But I think your 2404 02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:45,360 theory may not be far off from the truth 2405 02:21:48,300 --> 02:21:50,610 John C Dvorak: it's just a look. I'm not going by anything else. 2406 02:21:50,610 --> 02:21:52,260 I'm not going by our normal snow. 2407 02:21:52,620 --> 02:21:54,120 Adam Curry: Just look we are 2408 02:21:55,290 --> 02:21:56,700 John C Dvorak: going about it which is 2409 02:21:56,730 --> 02:21:58,470 Adam Curry: we're just superficial. Here we go by 2410 02:21:58,470 --> 02:22:01,320 looks. You look like a spook. You're a spook in our book. 2411 02:22:01,320 --> 02:22:02,550 We're done. That's 2412 02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:05,730 John C Dvorak: its mill. You have a mill you you get a mill. 2413 02:22:05,730 --> 02:22:08,700 You have a yellow era bunches, they the way these some of these 2414 02:22:08,700 --> 02:22:10,890 women all sound like they're from the same, you know, 2415 02:22:10,890 --> 02:22:11,760 sorority? 2416 02:22:12,390 --> 02:22:14,790 Adam Curry: Like throw room saying Rick Green. That sounds 2417 02:22:14,790 --> 02:22:18,720 like a fake spook name. Well, you got a point there. Got a 2418 02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:19,650 good point there. 2419 02:22:22,020 --> 02:22:25,320 John C Dvorak: Yeah, my name is green. I mean, these 2420 02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:27,750 Adam Curry: guys are cool. They're bad. They're a part of 2421 02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:33,270 some group. Yeah, the CIA? No, it's a different group, a guy 2422 02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:38,070 named Steve. Let me see what this guy's name is. He's a 2423 02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:42,660 businessman. So very successful business guy, Steve Maxwell, 2424 02:22:43,020 --> 02:22:46,320 citizens defending freedom, which I think is liberty for 2425 02:22:46,320 --> 02:22:49,590 moms for dudes. And it's really good. They have they have a 2426 02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:52,680 pretty good pitch. They're going around and talking to hundreds 2427 02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:57,900 of people, pastors, you know leaders in, in, in communities 2428 02:22:57,900 --> 02:23:01,440 and they say look, look at the Declaration of Independence to 2429 02:23:02,130 --> 02:23:05,940 take God God Creator God, we've got it we've got to go back to 2430 02:23:05,940 --> 02:23:09,030 the roots if you want to save our country, because in two 2431 02:23:09,030 --> 02:23:13,590 years, it'll be 250 years since the signing of the Declaration 2432 02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:16,680 of Independence and that's pretty much the trigger year 2433 02:23:16,680 --> 02:23:21,210 when everything should either fall apart as most nations do. 2434 02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:25,110 Or we figured out how to save it I liked their pitch it was it 2435 02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:28,620 was a good little pitch they had good for them Yeah. And with 2436 02:23:28,620 --> 02:23:30,510 that I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning to 2437 02:23:30,510 --> 02:23:34,230 you the man who put the seas in the crap we're feeding to our 2438 02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:36,510 children say hello to my friend on the other end the one and 2439 02:23:36,510 --> 02:23:37,590 only Mr. John 2440 02:23:42,060 --> 02:23:44,100 John C Dvorak: strand Korean and morning ships to see the boots 2441 02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:45,780 on the ground the feet in the air the soldiers in the ones 2442 02:23:45,780 --> 02:23:47,520 that danger the lights out there in the morning 2443 02:23:52,110 --> 02:24:01,950 Adam Curry: Oh, no, no. The last Thursday we had 2139 No. Sunday. 2444 02:24:01,950 --> 02:24:06,510 I'm sorry. The last Sunday. Last Sunday was 2139 I believe was it 2445 02:24:06,510 --> 02:24:11,520 not? Could be 1994 is the count today. We're down we're down 2446 02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:16,230 hundreds of trolls This is not good. Yeah. I don't know what 2447 02:24:16,230 --> 02:24:17,010 happened there 2448 02:24:17,310 --> 02:24:19,590 John C Dvorak: is they lost interest somewhere away 2449 02:24:19,620 --> 02:24:20,220 somewhere. 2450 02:24:20,520 --> 02:24:22,320 Adam Curry: It was the clip blitz that did it I'm sure 2451 02:24:22,320 --> 02:24:25,500 that's what happened. The clip blitz was lively now they went 2452 02:24:25,530 --> 02:24:28,500 out clip Blitz. That was probably got the the beef. 2453 02:24:28,830 --> 02:24:33,150 Really, really other beef. Maybe you're telling me though this 2454 02:24:33,210 --> 02:24:37,740 drunk? Oh, it's St. Patty's Day. Everyone's Oh, yeah, hell Okay. 2455 02:24:37,740 --> 02:24:41,970 Doesn't count. I'm amazed you guys are here at all. It was the 2456 02:24:41,970 --> 02:24:44,190 African side. Not that drunk. Yes. Right. Everyone's drunk. 2457 02:24:44,310 --> 02:24:45,420 Okay, I feel better. 2458 02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:49,980 John C Dvorak: St. Pat. We can't any Hall. This is as a quasi de 2459 02:24:49,980 --> 02:24:54,300 facto holidays. Not really. But it's a celebration day and so 2460 02:24:54,300 --> 02:24:57,690 yes, those days are always low. Okay. So nobody says they'll 2461 02:24:57,690 --> 02:25:02,460 listen to the show later. As a podcast, because that's what it 2462 02:25:02,460 --> 02:25:10,260 is. It's a podcast. And we'll, we'll catch up with them. That's 2463 02:25:10,260 --> 02:25:10,920 good. Just fine. 2464 02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:14,070 Adam Curry: Yeah, no, I'm happy now I'm like, what happened? 2465 02:25:14,100 --> 02:25:16,560 What did we do wrong? But yes, it's actually quite a high 2466 02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:19,170 number, I'd say I think this is quite good. Now that think about 2467 02:25:19,170 --> 02:25:24,630 it. So you can become a troll. It's actually not hard at all, 2468 02:25:24,630 --> 02:25:28,590 you just go to troll room.io. And you could listen to the no 2469 02:25:28,590 --> 02:25:35,940 agenda stream, which is 24 hours a day. And we have a chat room 2470 02:25:35,940 --> 02:25:38,400 there, which is of course not when we're on the air, it's a 2471 02:25:38,400 --> 02:25:41,100 troll room. But if there's always someone in there, there's 2472 02:25:41,100 --> 02:25:43,500 always something going on. There's lots of live shows. In 2473 02:25:43,500 --> 02:25:47,130 fact, we have a big live show coming up after today's 2474 02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:51,480 broadcast. St. Patty's Day behind the schemes, they're 2475 02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:58,260 doing a V four v goat drive. The race raise funds for the, for a 2476 02:25:58,470 --> 02:26:01,830 live concert on the stream. Yeah, there's all kinds of good 2477 02:26:01,830 --> 02:26:05,640 stuff going on. We are trolls are very active, it's a great 2478 02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:08,730 community. Or you can get a modern podcast app. Now there's 2479 02:26:08,730 --> 02:26:14,010 an idea go to podcast apps.com. It's all part of the podcasting 2480 02:26:14,010 --> 02:26:18,420 2.0 revolution, which has taken away power from Apple and any 2481 02:26:18,420 --> 02:26:22,020 other central entity, so they can't D platform, your favorite 2482 02:26:22,020 --> 02:26:25,710 podcast, and we have lots of new features. And the most the best 2483 02:26:25,710 --> 02:26:29,490 one is that now almost all of the we have so many podcasts, 2484 02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:32,640 hundreds of 1000s of podcasts, they use the system that when 2485 02:26:32,640 --> 02:26:36,270 they update a new episode, within 90 seconds, it shows up 2486 02:26:36,270 --> 02:26:40,020 on these new apps. And today, I am going to promote true fans, 2487 02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:45,510 true fans.fm And that is now it's a web app. So you can also 2488 02:26:45,540 --> 02:26:49,290 use on a desktop, they have everything, every single feature 2489 02:26:49,290 --> 02:26:53,370 that 2.0 has true fans has. And they've gone all the way and 2490 02:26:53,370 --> 02:26:55,770 said we're not even putting something in the app store. We 2491 02:26:55,770 --> 02:26:58,590 don't even want to take that risk. So it's a web app, and it 2492 02:26:58,590 --> 02:27:02,700 worked really well go to podcast apps.com To find out more about 2493 02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:07,140 podcasting. 2.0 podcasting two.org So I explained that we 2494 02:27:07,140 --> 02:27:10,710 are a value for value podcast, which means that you can support 2495 02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:13,980 us with your time, your talent or your treasure. We love our 2496 02:27:13,980 --> 02:27:20,700 artists, they truly deliver time and talent. And although ever 2497 02:27:20,700 --> 02:27:25,170 since the AI, image generators flew, it's gotten kind of tough. 2498 02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:28,770 Because you know, people just you know, they tossed some ideas 2499 02:27:28,770 --> 02:27:33,270 out and it really creativity can't just come from the the 2500 02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:37,200 prompts, you know, you have to be a creative person. And um, I 2501 02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:39,810 think what's happened I'm sad as you know, artists would go in 2502 02:27:39,810 --> 02:27:43,170 they say, Oh, look at all those beautiful art. But it's not it 2503 02:27:43,170 --> 02:27:46,260 may be may look beautiful, it's rendered beautifully, but it 2504 02:27:46,260 --> 02:27:50,760 doesn't have that oomph. It doesn't have the soul soul Thank 2505 02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:54,810 you. So which can only come from above it can't come from a 2506 02:27:54,810 --> 02:27:59,190 prompt that we do want to thank sir Schug Schug What are we 2507 02:27:59,190 --> 02:28:01,590 drinking? Show beer. 2508 02:28:03,630 --> 02:28:06,030 John C Dvorak: It's just a just nothing special today. It's just 2509 02:28:06,030 --> 02:28:07,050 polar seltzer. 2510 02:28:07,110 --> 02:28:09,240 Adam Curry: Now just the cheapest stuff you could find. I 2511 02:28:09,240 --> 02:28:15,660 got I am drinking a San Pellegrino from a can which has 2512 02:28:15,660 --> 02:28:23,700 zero calories. Nope. So and what is this? Well, this but natural 2513 02:28:23,700 --> 02:28:27,060 mineral water with co2 added this is climate change in the 2514 02:28:27,060 --> 02:28:27,570 can. 2515 02:28:29,700 --> 02:28:31,260 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know, I've talked to him climate 2516 02:28:31,260 --> 02:28:36,060 change people about this and they say well, they take the co2 2517 02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:39,360 out of the air and then put a thing it's the same co2 That's 2518 02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:41,820 already floating around. So it's not really adding anything to 2519 02:28:41,820 --> 02:28:43,110 co2. Well, 2520 02:28:43,110 --> 02:28:45,930 Adam Curry: if I burped then I co2 is coming out and I'm 2521 02:28:45,960 --> 02:28:47,580 polluting the earth 2522 02:28:47,610 --> 02:28:50,100 John C Dvorak: is but it's air. It was co2 that was already in 2523 02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:52,260 the air. My buddy, Robert James, it's 2524 02:28:52,260 --> 02:28:54,990 Adam Curry: neutral. My buddy Robert Jensen, who does a value 2525 02:28:54,990 --> 02:28:59,550 for value podcast in Holland. He just started a new clothing 2526 02:28:59,550 --> 02:29:06,090 line. And it's I love co2. And it's all in green letters. I 2527 02:29:06,090 --> 02:29:09,300 green hearts co2. I think that's a good idea. We should just 2528 02:29:09,300 --> 02:29:11,730 start saying how much we love co2 because 2529 02:29:11,730 --> 02:29:14,940 John C Dvorak: the plants love it. Or you get we had a clip 2530 02:29:14,940 --> 02:29:19,320 above five or six years ago this guy some greenery that was they 2531 02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:25,740 had a greenhouse system that was pumping extra co2 into it and he 2532 02:29:25,740 --> 02:29:29,880 said you can't get the plants to be happier. Oh, yeah. Yeah, 2533 02:29:29,880 --> 02:29:32,520 absolutely. They're trying to kill us. That's what they want 2534 02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:37,830 to reduce co2 forced to correct make the plants unhappy and soil 2535 02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:38,190 die, 2536 02:29:38,220 --> 02:29:42,900 Adam Curry: so we're all gonna die. So sir shag shag, aka faux 2537 02:29:42,900 --> 02:29:46,680 Diddley. We're always looking on days like today I'm sure we're 2538 02:29:46,680 --> 02:29:49,140 going to be looking for some St. Patty's Day art. We'd love those 2539 02:29:49,140 --> 02:29:51,060 traditional art pieces for you 2540 02:29:51,060 --> 02:29:53,430 John C Dvorak: look at the St. Patty's Day artists come in, 2541 02:29:53,430 --> 02:29:55,800 you'll probably see the piece I'm going to be promoting. Okay, 2542 02:29:55,800 --> 02:29:56,250 well, first 2543 02:29:56,250 --> 02:29:58,830 Adam Curry: I want to thank fo diddley here for doing a 2544 02:29:58,830 --> 02:30:04,650 beautiful pie pie. I was a cherry pie with a pie on top 2545 02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:09,510 symbol pie. Now we actually we looked at a couple let me just 2546 02:30:09,540 --> 02:30:12,660 log into no agenda art generator.com here for a second, 2547 02:30:12,660 --> 02:30:16,800 which is anybody can go there anybody? Yes, I see exactly 2548 02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:21,150 which one you want to choose. Anybody can go in there, anybody 2549 02:30:21,150 --> 02:30:26,220 can submit or just follow along. The artists are working very, 2550 02:30:26,220 --> 02:30:33,990 very hard. And now we had a gambit, which is our exit 2551 02:30:33,990 --> 02:30:38,400 strategy of slender meant. So a lot of people thought, wow, 2552 02:30:38,400 --> 02:30:43,260 that's that's a shoo in. But it was pi day, Friday. Now, slender 2553 02:30:43,260 --> 02:30:47,040 mint.com is live and I've put all of the Slenderman art up 2554 02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:51,480 there. I've put it as a snappy little jingle and a song. So 2555 02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:54,840 we're claiming the brand. Before we have the product. 2556 02:30:55,230 --> 02:30:57,300 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's, that's because we have some 2557 02:30:57,360 --> 02:31:00,240 bases in Silicon Valley. Yes. So 2558 02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:02,670 Adam Curry: we do not have a basis in the gum industry. So 2559 02:31:02,670 --> 02:31:03,090 we're looking at 2560 02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:08,190 John C Dvorak: Valley mentality, which you can't seem to get rid 2561 02:31:08,190 --> 02:31:08,490 of. 2562 02:31:08,520 --> 02:31:11,880 Adam Curry: We have nothing else that's that's all we have. So 2563 02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:15,570 you of course wanted the Francisco scare manga cheesecake 2564 02:31:15,570 --> 02:31:17,430 lady with with the pie. 2565 02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:21,930 John C Dvorak: Yes. Because you had a better shot at getting 2566 02:31:21,930 --> 02:31:24,990 acceptance from you if over on the other side if he'd balanced 2567 02:31:24,990 --> 02:31:31,200 a piece a little bit and put pie Pie Day in letters. Yes. Yes, 2568 02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:31,410 yeah. 2569 02:31:31,410 --> 02:31:32,970 Adam Curry: Now it was just a boob. 2570 02:31:32,970 --> 02:31:36,300 John C Dvorak: She's to get just a couple of boobs, basic 2571 02:31:36,300 --> 02:31:39,210 Adam Curry: gratuitous boobs. So now I was like now now let's 2572 02:31:39,210 --> 02:31:39,600 just to 2573 02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:41,580 John C Dvorak: have this there's no doubt about it. So it didn't 2574 02:31:41,580 --> 02:31:45,270 have the you know if he said Pi Day on and now the, the one that 2575 02:31:45,270 --> 02:31:49,890 we picked, which was the pie with a pie symbol on the top, so 2576 02:31:49,890 --> 02:31:52,710 we knew it was pie so and everyone knows that symbol was 2577 02:31:52,710 --> 02:31:57,480 great was chosen because it was the most artistic of the group, 2578 02:31:57,630 --> 02:32:02,550 but you hated it. Hated because you thought Adam curry Johnson 2579 02:32:02,550 --> 02:32:03,570 of art was too small. 2580 02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:05,910 Adam Curry: I did. I said that. In fact, I said I would gross 2581 02:32:05,910 --> 02:32:08,970 about it. So thank you for reminding me. It was too small. 2582 02:32:09,480 --> 02:32:13,320 Yeah, there was really but there was nothing else. No, that was 2583 02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:17,040 good. No, there was nothing but I loved all the Slenderman 2584 02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:21,390 stuff. All of us really good. You were like, Oh, look at this 2585 02:32:21,390 --> 02:32:24,570 blueberry pickle, surprise. I'm like This sucks. 2586 02:32:24,990 --> 02:32:25,800 John C Dvorak: Which one was that 2587 02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:28,920 Adam Curry: the blueberries with the pie on top. It was no good. 2588 02:32:29,490 --> 02:32:33,750 There were two This too is a by pickles surprise you like that 2589 02:32:33,750 --> 02:32:36,840 was it now let's go back to the one with the with our names that 2590 02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:47,130 are too small, which is usually your complaint. What? Thank you 2591 02:32:47,130 --> 02:32:53,340 very much faux diddly. for your, for your time and your talent. 2592 02:32:53,340 --> 02:32:56,490 We appreciate it. Thank you to all of the artists. And of 2593 02:32:56,490 --> 02:32:59,280 course, thank you to Dr. Scott, who makes sure that those modern 2594 02:32:59,280 --> 02:33:02,790 podcast apps have all of the chapters he does like 3040 2595 02:33:02,790 --> 02:33:07,200 chapters per episode. So you can bounce around and find stuff 2596 02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:10,920 easily if you want to go back is also we have transcripts you can 2597 02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:14,340 search that all that I mean this, we have an amazing 2598 02:33:14,340 --> 02:33:18,180 community, truly, an outrageously amazing community 2599 02:33:18,180 --> 02:33:22,560 who do so much for the show, which is so incredibly valuable. 2600 02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:26,700 We thank you all for your courage and for your time, and 2601 02:33:26,700 --> 02:33:29,280 talents. And let's thank some of the people who brought in the 2602 02:33:29,280 --> 02:33:33,780 treasure. The treasure is most very necessary, because that's 2603 02:33:33,780 --> 02:33:38,400 how we keep our fires lit at home. And we'd like to thank our 2604 02:33:38,400 --> 02:33:40,890 executive and Associate Executive Producers right up 2605 02:33:40,890 --> 02:33:45,420 front. And we're going to start off with a fan favorite. That is 2606 02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:49,260 the one and only synonymous of Dogpatch and lower it's LeBeau 2607 02:33:49,260 --> 02:33:53,460 via who always comes in with cash, he sends it from an 2608 02:33:53,460 --> 02:33:58,560 anonymous location. He always has a typewritten note. And, and 2609 02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:01,860 the number always includes at least one $2 Bill, I presume 2610 02:34:01,860 --> 02:34:06,150 that this 1502 included one $2 Bill just guessing. 2611 02:34:08,820 --> 02:34:12,690 John C Dvorak: I thought it was 1503. I see 1502 on my on my 2612 02:34:12,690 --> 02:34:16,260 sheet. I know I know. But I remember the coming in J counted 2613 02:34:16,260 --> 02:34:22,110 it. And there was a $2 bill as usual. So we have to put this 2614 02:34:22,110 --> 02:34:26,490 number at least until it's verified. Because we these 2615 02:34:26,490 --> 02:34:28,680 numbers are code. So if we 2616 02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:30,930 Adam Curry: can't screw up the code, if we screw up the code, 2617 02:34:30,930 --> 02:34:35,850 then people might die or whatever, because it is some 2618 02:34:35,850 --> 02:34:39,060 kind of code here it is from synonymous of Dogpatch and Loris 2619 02:34:39,060 --> 02:34:41,430 lobia. Thank you to all producers and John and Adam for 2620 02:34:41,430 --> 02:34:44,880 making the production quality of this show outstanding. Still 2621 02:34:44,880 --> 02:34:48,120 traveling and behind in finding a mailbox. He always sends it 2622 02:34:48,120 --> 02:34:51,540 from a mailbox. In my travels. The general view is there will 2623 02:34:51,540 --> 02:34:55,950 be a change in the US slash Middle East diplomacy regardless 2624 02:34:55,980 --> 02:34:59,880 of the election outcome. This dude we have no idea what he's 2625 02:34:59,880 --> 02:35:01,860 doing. But he has an international mandate 2626 02:35:02,040 --> 02:35:05,010 John C Dvorak: to be somewhat plugged in. And he's also in he 2627 02:35:05,010 --> 02:35:08,850 does use. I believe he uses a mailing service which you can do 2628 02:35:08,850 --> 02:35:12,870 if you're overseas. And it goes into a big pile and it gets 2629 02:35:12,870 --> 02:35:15,840 shipped somewhere in this case in New York City and then gets 2630 02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:18,060 mailed from there. He 2631 02:35:18,060 --> 02:35:21,510 Adam Curry: says walk softly and carry a big stick diplomacy has 2632 02:35:21,510 --> 02:35:25,200 long been abandoned. All international issues are now 2633 02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:29,670 viewed by US political leaders as nails and the US military is 2634 02:35:29,670 --> 02:35:34,020 our only tool. Yeah, I think we agree with that. He has a quote 2635 02:35:34,020 --> 02:35:40,770 here from on war book one chapter one Carl von Clausewitz. 2636 02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:45,780 The quote is, war is a mere continuation of politics by 2637 02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:53,100 other means. Some deep and deep learning here and US diplomacy 2638 02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:57,270 by other means has atrophied while others invest in broader 2639 02:35:57,270 --> 02:36:01,470 toolbox. Yeah, we need to change some stuff here, that's for 2640 02:36:01,470 --> 02:36:05,010 sure. With Lenten Ramadan overlapping this year, I hope 2641 02:36:05,010 --> 02:36:07,860 this period of simultaneous religious reflection and 2642 02:36:07,860 --> 02:36:11,160 sacrifice by the two largest religions on earth can bring 2643 02:36:11,160 --> 02:36:15,540 about a small movement towards civility. No jingles, no karma? 2644 02:36:15,570 --> 02:36:20,370 Yeah. Well, as we discussed, revival is overdue. So, let's, 2645 02:36:20,730 --> 02:36:23,010 let's hope let's pray for that. Pray for that. Thank you very 2646 02:36:23,010 --> 02:36:26,640 much the Animus of lower of Dogpatch and lower Slavia we 2647 02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:30,720 love you, we appreciate you and happy Ramadan, that we do 2648 02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:35,400 believe he's Muslim. And he's definitely definitely Muslim. 2649 02:36:35,700 --> 02:36:39,990 And we'll make sure that if it isn't 1502 We'll update it 2650 02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:43,950 accordingly so that no one gets no one's in parallel with your 2651 02:36:43,950 --> 02:36:45,360 code transmissions. 2652 02:36:46,440 --> 02:36:50,100 John C Dvorak: Baronet tests Lady Bird is up she's in 2653 02:36:50,250 --> 02:36:54,720 Provence. Provence Sol I think is pronounced that way Louisiana 2654 02:36:54,720 --> 02:37:01,110 58482 And she says Hi, John and Adam. You had mentioned a row of 2655 02:37:01,110 --> 02:37:05,790 swans donation some months back I don't recall it she must have 2656 02:37:05,790 --> 02:37:10,590 given five by five yeah five picked up to picked up the fees 2657 02:37:10,590 --> 02:37:15,720 was probably fie fie fie fie fie fie five Yeah. I don't recall 2658 02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:18,420 hearing when given so, this may be the first one I may be the 2659 02:37:18,420 --> 02:37:22,500 first one to use it. This catapults me to Baron Ness. So 2660 02:37:22,500 --> 02:37:26,580 Baroness ladybird eagle of Toledo Bend is my new title if 2661 02:37:26,580 --> 02:37:33,060 you please please more Texas. Tim brawny yo Yes. For the 2662 02:37:33,060 --> 02:37:33,840 roundtable. 2663 02:37:34,020 --> 02:37:37,200 Adam Curry: I got a dynamite Tempranillo for you is gray make 2664 02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:40,230 a good one in Texas I have to say I do from I got it from 2665 02:37:40,230 --> 02:37:41,850 Augusta. venule like this one. 2666 02:37:42,390 --> 02:37:45,840 John C Dvorak: Aaron go Brog she had the temporary effect that's 2667 02:37:45,840 --> 02:37:48,960 probably the grapes that they should grow there except in some 2668 02:37:48,960 --> 02:37:51,870 specific areas where they have the right microclimates. It was 2669 02:37:51,870 --> 02:37:52,350 generally 2670 02:37:52,380 --> 02:37:54,930 Adam Curry: great grapes in the end it's a great grape for for 2671 02:37:54,930 --> 02:37:59,820 Texas. Yeah, it's like Spain. Almost a little different but 2672 02:37:59,820 --> 02:38:01,290 close. Close 2673 02:38:01,290 --> 02:38:04,140 John C Dvorak: enough. William Butler Yeah. Oh, 2674 02:38:04,140 --> 02:38:07,950 Adam Curry: oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Yes. Keep going. Yep. Sorry, 2675 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:08,550 William, 2676 02:38:08,550 --> 02:38:12,510 John C Dvorak: but Laura Yates quote later and the swan is a 2677 02:38:12,510 --> 02:38:15,690 lovely poem and a good read for St. Patrick's Day. It's a short 2678 02:38:16,050 --> 02:38:19,200 and with enough drinks will bring a tear to one's eye. Can I 2679 02:38:19,200 --> 02:38:24,630 get an F cancer jingo, please. Erin go Brog and Semper Fi read 2680 02:38:24,900 --> 02:38:28,890 Vandenberg Baronet destined to be Baroness ladybird 2681 02:38:28,920 --> 02:38:39,480 Adam Curry: eagle of Toledo Ben. You've got karma. Then we go to 2682 02:38:39,540 --> 02:38:48,060 Eva or Eva Shia? Shaya sh e IE, Eva? Eva Eva. Guys. She says for 2683 02:38:48,060 --> 02:38:51,180 International Women's Day, I was named number 33 on the list of 2684 02:38:51,180 --> 02:38:56,580 podcasting. 50 most influential women. We got a podcaster here. 2685 02:38:57,180 --> 02:39:01,260 Oh, nice. I started a podcast production agency serving 2686 02:39:01,260 --> 02:39:06,330 doctors and 2020 and we're doing great. I credit your leadership 2687 02:39:06,420 --> 02:39:09,150 with much of my podcasting philosophy and approach to the 2688 02:39:09,150 --> 02:39:12,690 business and confer this extraordinary honor to you know, 2689 02:39:12,870 --> 02:39:17,520 we can't we can't we that's very humbling, but no, we're happy 2690 02:39:17,520 --> 02:39:22,740 that you are so successful. So here's $333 And this time, it's 2691 02:39:22,740 --> 02:39:29,130 more like Thank you. nailed a giant you're the best. This 2692 02:39:29,130 --> 02:39:33,150 donation officially brings both me and my friend Andreea to Dame 2693 02:39:33,150 --> 02:39:36,360 hood, I hit her in the mouth and 2020 after learning she had 2694 02:39:36,360 --> 02:39:40,290 turned off the news and started watching Infowars we would like 2695 02:39:40,290 --> 02:39:43,470 rocking chairs next to each other at the roundtable. Yes. 2696 02:39:44,160 --> 02:39:47,220 Okay, I'm going to I actually only have one I have another one 2697 02:39:47,220 --> 02:39:50,790 coming. So we'll make sure you got rocking chairs next to each 2698 02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:57,150 other to rocking chairs. You all condemn us axis of Eva. Eva, 2699 02:39:57,180 --> 02:40:00,810 what is Eva I think Axis of Evil like evil evil Maybe even Eva 2700 02:40:01,230 --> 02:40:05,610 and Dame Andy Jane, please have the rent boys and nothing but 2701 02:40:05,610 --> 02:40:09,450 sand volleyball shorts for us. Yeah, you better believe it. 2702 02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:14,370 They are and they're ready to go. No jingles no current but a 2703 02:40:14,370 --> 02:40:16,950 technical question for the curry Devorah Consulting Group pay 2704 02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:20,430 attention. Why is the audio quality of Meghan's podcast 2705 02:40:20,430 --> 02:40:26,190 guests so terrible? I think I can answer this one, because 2706 02:40:26,190 --> 02:40:32,880 they use Zoom. And zoom is just a crap product. Zoom came up 2707 02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:39,300 with this whole for broadcast this whole green room and you 2708 02:40:39,300 --> 02:40:43,500 can talk to the producer, or the producer can talk to you and 2709 02:40:43,500 --> 02:40:46,320 they have all this stuff in there. But ultimately, it's a 2710 02:40:46,320 --> 02:40:47,370 crap product. So 2711 02:40:47,370 --> 02:40:51,390 John C Dvorak: that is why Horowitz and I use Zoom. And we 2712 02:40:51,390 --> 02:40:54,540 sound fine. We don't sound as bad as that. I think it's the 2713 02:40:54,540 --> 02:40:55,080 mics. 2714 02:40:55,740 --> 02:40:58,680 Adam Curry: Well, yeah, I mean, you can you can tune it. Of 2715 02:40:58,680 --> 02:41:02,550 course poor which is a he's a radio guy. You can I mean, we 2716 02:41:02,550 --> 02:41:06,300 used I used to to new and on crappy Skype but they would 2717 02:41:06,300 --> 02:41:10,560 default back to am radio quality. Remember those days? 2718 02:41:10,590 --> 02:41:14,730 But yeah, Skype, Skype. Yeah, so 2719 02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:18,030 John C Dvorak: they don't even use Skype anymore? Yeah. 2720 02:41:19,320 --> 02:41:21,450 Adam Curry: I don't know. I haven't had an interview on 2721 02:41:21,450 --> 02:41:25,770 Skype. Most people use river radio or something like that. 2722 02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:29,310 These other products. We like clean feed. Number We don't need 2723 02:41:29,310 --> 02:41:33,750 any video. That's for sure. And that's probably do you got you 2724 02:41:33,750 --> 02:41:37,320 don't you don't use the video part two. You just know. You go 2725 02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:43,200 when you use the video with the audio. That's when? Okay, there 2726 02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:47,580 you can make sense. All right. Thank you. Eva. Good. Dig good 2727 02:41:47,580 --> 02:41:47,970 way. Get 2728 02:41:47,970 --> 02:41:51,570 John C Dvorak: yourself out of my my Yetter are yes, yes, I 2729 02:41:51,570 --> 02:41:54,330 figured surely furious. Meanwhile, he's got no con or 2730 02:41:54,360 --> 02:41:58,350 counter argument he's chemists in with 317 Which I'm guessing 2731 02:41:58,440 --> 02:42:04,380 300 In the morning, John and Adam. Cargill did nothing wrong. 2732 02:42:04,830 --> 02:42:06,060 Surely furious, 2733 02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:08,400 Adam Curry: not a popular opinion around the ranchers. 2734 02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:13,350 Rita Harrington 317 JCD. And Adam Happy St. Patrick's Day. I 2735 02:42:13,350 --> 02:42:16,590 look forward to your humor and presentation of the best podcast 2736 02:42:16,590 --> 02:42:18,990 in the universe. Thank you for your courage and thank you for 2737 02:42:19,350 --> 02:42:24,840 adding the fees to your Wow $300 And then the Pay Pal take 17 2738 02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:25,470 bucks, huh? 2739 02:42:26,340 --> 02:42:30,150 John C Dvorak: Yeah. That's why people should send in checks. 2740 02:42:30,480 --> 02:42:30,900 Yeah, 2741 02:42:30,930 --> 02:42:32,880 Adam Curry: that's that's highway robbery 2742 02:42:32,880 --> 02:42:39,270 John C Dvorak: three nine El Cerrito, California. 94530. And 2743 02:42:39,300 --> 02:42:42,300 stripe takes the same I mean, everybody everywhere everyone 2744 02:42:42,300 --> 02:42:47,760 takes that. Yes, I know. I said checks. Checks. Box. 339 LCBO. 2745 02:42:47,760 --> 02:42:50,190 California make the checkout to no agenda show 2746 02:42:50,190 --> 02:42:52,620 Adam Curry: agenda. donations.com you can by the 2747 02:42:52,620 --> 02:42:55,080 way, when you send the check, they'll make it out to Korean 2748 02:42:55,080 --> 02:42:59,070 Devorah Consulting Group and the people think that's funny. I 2749 02:42:59,070 --> 02:43:00,630 don't think we can cash them when you do that. 2750 02:43:01,050 --> 02:43:03,780 John C Dvorak: Yeah, we can cash. Oh, yeah. Canberra. Yep, 2751 02:43:03,930 --> 02:43:08,490 pretty liberal. Kimberly cram North Fort Myers is up next and 2752 02:43:08,490 --> 02:43:13,710 she's in Florida. 317 Hi, John and Adam with this St. Patrick's 2753 02:43:13,710 --> 02:43:17,340 Day donation. I shouldn't have a Oh, this 317 is St. Patrick's 2754 02:43:17,340 --> 02:43:21,990 Day. Oh, well. Hello. You made it up yourself. 123. We have 2755 02:43:21,990 --> 02:43:25,140 what three people like joined in on the great promotion. Yeah, 2756 02:43:25,140 --> 02:43:29,430 well done. It was on there was a click a button. Yeah, well, I 2757 02:43:29,430 --> 02:43:34,530 should have a total donation of 150 54 and achieved Dame hood. 2758 02:43:34,890 --> 02:43:39,750 Thank you for keeping me sane during Obama's third presidency. 2759 02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:42,840 Adam Curry: You're welcome Kimberly and look forward to 2760 02:43:42,840 --> 02:43:47,640 Daming you later on Sir Mike 44 314 16. That's a pie donation 2761 02:43:47,640 --> 02:43:50,100 he says in the morning. Thank you for your courage. Pi Day is 2762 02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:54,150 the right day. Even if I'm late, happy anniversary. My hottie 2763 02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:59,730 mobs sincerely, sir Mike 44. Jr. Not be yes. Copy that brother. 2764 02:44:01,920 --> 02:44:08,280 John C Dvorak: Austin Gilman in Dayton, Ohio. 22336. eclipse 2765 02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:13,830 day. How about an international ITM jingle? Hosta Manyana. Fees 2766 02:44:13,830 --> 02:44:20,820 added this is a Deke Deke Deke Deke Deke donation 2233. So 2767 02:44:20,820 --> 02:44:26,580 well, yeah, the fees screw fees, you put some fees on there. I'll 2768 02:44:26,580 --> 02:44:29,970 never have you say that again. The proceeds are my first 2769 02:44:29,970 --> 02:44:36,210 farmers stock to go well Viking therapeutics. So he is talking 2770 02:44:36,210 --> 02:44:37,350 dump on the no agenda. 2771 02:44:39,210 --> 02:44:42,600 Adam Curry: That's the one I mentioned Viking therapeutics. I 2772 02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:43,080 remember that 2773 02:44:43,080 --> 02:44:45,390 John C Dvorak: in the morning this is a gratuitous shout out 2774 02:44:45,390 --> 02:44:49,470 for the rain or shine eclipsed a meet him from the long shadows 2775 02:44:49,470 --> 02:44:52,800 of the trash mountain in Dayton, Ohio. Come and see the sun go 2776 02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:56,910 away on the west side April 8 starting at 133 or whenever this 2777 02:44:56,910 --> 02:45:01,710 guy's not giving up on this nope posted I saw Egghead and PJ 2778 02:45:01,710 --> 02:45:05,880 golden at our house Please RSVP so I can send you the address. 2779 02:45:05,880 --> 02:45:09,120 We'd love to see all the normals in Dayton area stragglers, 2780 02:45:09,270 --> 02:45:13,890 Jonathan Meyers, Steven Chu mock, etc Be there or be 2781 02:45:13,890 --> 02:45:16,080 somewhere else eclipse day. 2782 02:45:18,270 --> 02:45:22,440 Adam Curry: Jamie McMahon Temecula, California to make it 2783 02:45:22,440 --> 02:45:26,850 I think I did that right for one. Yep. Row a ducks 222 dot 22 2784 02:45:26,910 --> 02:45:30,540 Associate Executive Producers Yep. Hi guys. My last donation 2785 02:45:30,540 --> 02:45:33,660 notes that my husband hit me in the mouth. My son heard this and 2786 02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:39,690 ask why did you punch mom in the face? Yeah, that's a good 2787 02:45:39,690 --> 02:45:43,770 question. So please add my son Jack to the birthday list will 2788 02:45:43,770 --> 02:45:46,830 be 10 on the 17th. So happy birthday Jack. We love you. 2789 02:45:46,830 --> 02:45:53,790 Jack. Jingles are two d two Boom shakalaka. You've got 2790 02:45:59,100 --> 02:46:02,160 John C Dvorak: we go to Ron Sherman in Colorado Springs. 2791 02:46:03,630 --> 02:46:09,420 Two, two. And he sent a note which I have here scanned by cam 2792 02:46:09,420 --> 02:46:13,680 scam. Whatever it's called. I was afraid my first donation 2793 02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:18,000 might hurt. I waited. Well, no, it didn't hurt. So I thought 2794 02:46:18,000 --> 02:46:22,110 maybe I try a second one to see if that one hurts. But no, it 2795 02:46:22,110 --> 02:46:25,920 didn't hurt either. So now I'm up to like five or six donations 2796 02:46:25,920 --> 02:46:29,160 without the pain. Take care. It's almost always been nice to 2797 02:46:29,160 --> 02:46:31,530 listen to your show. You don't have to read the blue 2798 02:46:31,530 --> 02:46:34,020 highlighted area if you don't want it. But I think we will 2799 02:46:34,020 --> 02:46:36,630 since you've given so much money. I was in a public 2800 02:46:36,630 --> 02:46:39,660 transportation business in the limousine business for 35 years. 2801 02:46:39,660 --> 02:46:42,390 And I'm wondering how the value for value systems would have 2802 02:46:42,390 --> 02:46:45,600 worked in that business. It's not a business where you need 2803 02:46:45,600 --> 02:46:49,560 it. Where I see it. Most of the peeps I drove around, we're kind 2804 02:46:49,560 --> 02:46:52,080 of wealthy so it might have worked with them. But you never 2805 02:46:52,080 --> 02:46:58,050 know what you are going to get. Do you that's 2806 02:46:58,050 --> 02:47:00,030 Adam Curry: interesting. I wonder if if you just drive 2807 02:47:00,030 --> 02:47:02,640 around and you and then pick people obviously you know what 2808 02:47:02,640 --> 02:47:05,220 it wasn't worth to you. You know that's like the pedi cabs in 2809 02:47:05,220 --> 02:47:09,810 Austin. They're not allowed to charge money. It's donations 2810 02:47:09,810 --> 02:47:13,710 only. And those guys they make out pretty well. Oh, 2811 02:47:13,710 --> 02:47:15,690 John C Dvorak: well. That's interesting to know. He 2812 02:47:15,690 --> 02:47:18,540 continues his letter was sent by saying during the elections I'm 2813 02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:21,450 a signature verification specialist that's interesting 2814 02:47:21,450 --> 02:47:25,410 for you. If you get a chance to play the numbers station I'd 2815 02:47:25,410 --> 02:47:28,380 love to hear it pictures of me and my family on the back end he 2816 02:47:28,380 --> 02:47:31,740 said some nice photos Thank you very much in the 2817 02:47:33,930 --> 02:47:41,790 Adam Curry: standby 3333 or otherwise are out. We move to 2818 02:47:41,790 --> 02:47:47,010 Philip Veenstra or as I would say Phillip fame stra Chatham, 2819 02:47:47,010 --> 02:47:51,930 Illinois. 216 16. D AC and JC today's my son 16th Birthday. 2820 02:47:51,930 --> 02:47:55,410 Happy Birthday Finley love from your family. Especially grandpa 2821 02:47:55,410 --> 02:47:58,860 Doug. Mom and I are proud of proud of you as proud parents 2822 02:47:58,860 --> 02:48:02,040 you have earned what every American man needs to survive in 2823 02:48:02,040 --> 02:48:06,540 our country. Common sense a truck and a pistol. Well yeah, 2824 02:48:07,200 --> 02:48:10,290 and a can of beer. Now you're talking that's that's some 2825 02:48:10,290 --> 02:48:13,830 parents right there. Happy birthday. Yep. Love mom and dad 2826 02:48:13,860 --> 02:48:17,610 though. Beautiful. I love that. That's yeah, common sense a 2827 02:48:17,610 --> 02:48:22,020 truck and a pistol in a can of beer. Beautiful. They I 2828 02:48:22,680 --> 02:48:24,300 John C Dvorak: skip this when you're going to read it. And I'm 2829 02:48:24,300 --> 02:48:26,880 going to go to Linda Lou patcon in Lakewood, Colorado and see 2830 02:48:26,880 --> 02:48:32,010 how fast I can read this. She comes up with $200 and asks for 2831 02:48:32,010 --> 02:48:36,000 jobs karma. Why? Because she's a specialist in getting people's 2832 02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:39,870 jobs. She says with a quality resume you won't need the luck 2833 02:48:39,870 --> 02:48:44,370 of the Irish dramatic there. Oh yes, go to Image makers inc.com 2834 02:48:44,370 --> 02:48:48,960 For all your executive resume and job search needs. That's 2835 02:48:48,960 --> 02:48:52,800 where the K you're just fine. Linda Lou patcon Duchess of jobs 2836 02:48:52,830 --> 02:48:57,150 and writer of resumes on their producer lists jobs, 2837 02:48:57,300 --> 02:49:01,560 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 2838 02:49:03,810 --> 02:49:08,280 Adam Curry: And with 201 33 we see Eli the coffee guy from 2839 02:49:08,280 --> 02:49:12,030 Bensenville Illinois says Happy St Patty's day think I just 2840 02:49:12,030 --> 02:49:15,540 might Irish cup my coffee cup today. By the way, Jeffrey 2841 02:49:15,540 --> 02:49:18,840 Epstein didn't kill himself and neither did John Barnett and for 2842 02:49:18,840 --> 02:49:21,990 producers who want great air roasted coffee visit kickico 2843 02:49:21,990 --> 02:49:26,580 gigawatt coffee roasters.com use code ITM 20 for 20% off your 2844 02:49:26,580 --> 02:49:29,940 first order. Stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy. Thank you 2845 02:49:29,940 --> 02:49:34,140 very much, Eli. i Oh, that's it. 2846 02:49:34,260 --> 02:49:37,080 John C Dvorak: That's it. Yeah, that's it. That's our executive 2847 02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:42,270 and Associate Executive producers for show 1643 And 2848 02:49:42,270 --> 02:49:45,150 Adam Curry: these titles are the real deal. You can use them in 2849 02:49:45,150 --> 02:49:48,930 any show business surrounding put them on your LinkedIn for 2850 02:49:48,930 --> 02:49:52,680 extra, you know, extra kudos from everybody. It put it on 2851 02:49:52,680 --> 02:49:55,110 your resume or even if you want to, just to show you that there 2852 02:49:55,110 --> 02:49:58,320 we'll go to imdb.com the universal show business database 2853 02:49:59,130 --> 02:50:02,910 and you can add your out there as executive producer of the no 2854 02:50:02,910 --> 02:50:07,440 agenda Show episode 1643 or, if appropriate, and applicable and 2855 02:50:07,440 --> 02:50:10,320 Associate Executive Producer, thank you so much for all of 2856 02:50:10,320 --> 02:50:12,840 your support. We really appreciate that these titles are 2857 02:50:12,840 --> 02:50:15,390 good for the rest of your life. And John will now take us 2858 02:50:15,390 --> 02:50:18,510 through the donations up to $50 through the 50s. 2859 02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:22,110 John C Dvorak: Yeah, starting with in the end, no agenda 2860 02:50:22,110 --> 02:50:26,220 tribal meet up in Greenwood, Indiana. Yes. And this is a 2861 02:50:26,220 --> 02:50:30,240 switcheroo that goes to raffle donations which are to Lucas 2862 02:50:30,240 --> 02:50:34,440 Sanders, and they want me to plug his Sanders as a custom 2863 02:50:34,440 --> 02:50:41,460 woodworker. Now plug his website. It's www American. True 2864 02:50:41,460 --> 02:50:47,040 T R U H L A r.com. You can rewind that to get it correct. 2865 02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:50,820 You might want to check it out and tell us what it is. Blake 2866 02:50:50,820 --> 02:50:57,630 Betteridge is up from Edmonton, Alberta. 116 92. Jason babchuk 2867 02:50:57,720 --> 02:50:59,430 in Henderson, Nevada, 2868 02:50:59,940 --> 02:51:02,520 Adam Curry: Blake Blake wanted to de douching for his friend, 2869 02:51:03,060 --> 02:51:04,350 Ren Oh, sorry. 2870 02:51:06,420 --> 02:51:08,250 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2871 02:51:11,070 --> 02:51:14,850 John C Dvorak: Jason bad cop and bad cop in Henderson Nevada. 2872 02:51:14,880 --> 02:51:23,520 105 35. We have a douchebag and a douchebag call out here for 2873 02:51:24,840 --> 02:51:31,620 Brian Norton. And he came in with 105 35 and he's got to say 2874 02:51:31,620 --> 02:51:37,500 this is a long note I'm not gonna read but he granted this 2875 02:51:37,500 --> 02:51:40,710 is a been deduced by linear progression to John blah blah 2876 02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:47,610 blah. This is an honor of gramps Richard Higgins. 102 year old 2877 02:51:47,610 --> 02:51:52,170 Pearl Harbor survivor from Bend Oregon is living with them. Wow. 2878 02:51:53,250 --> 02:51:58,500 And he was came up with this idea of of, of a creating a 2879 02:51:58,500 --> 02:52:04,230 special knighthood for gramps who is being moved to a hospice 2880 02:52:04,230 --> 02:52:07,890 because he's getting on and hopefully this listen to this. I 2881 02:52:07,890 --> 02:52:12,060 think and I make an executive decision, but I'm going to put 2882 02:52:12,060 --> 02:52:17,310 this forward. Stephen Pels. mocker. Some years ago, his 2883 02:52:17,310 --> 02:52:23,250 original Grand Duke had given us three nice things to give away 2884 02:52:23,250 --> 02:52:29,130 and there is one left. Oh, I proposed that. Yes, I remembered 2885 02:52:29,130 --> 02:52:34,950 this. I propose that we give gramps a knighthood today. Okay. 2886 02:52:35,280 --> 02:52:39,240 While he's still floating around there. Yeah. And we won't have 2887 02:52:39,240 --> 02:52:41,880 to do this promotion. I think they're even though you know me. 2888 02:52:41,880 --> 02:52:44,280 I'd rather do a promotion when I can. But I think we're gonna 2889 02:52:44,280 --> 02:52:49,620 give grandpa Richard Higgins a knighthood today if you can put 2890 02:52:49,620 --> 02:52:51,900 them on the list. I think that would work. Okay, 2891 02:52:51,900 --> 02:52:55,350 Adam Curry: grandpa, Richard Higgins and we just turned him 2892 02:52:55,350 --> 02:52:57,990 into sir Higgins. Just to make it easy. Yes, sir Hagen's. 2893 02:52:58,140 --> 02:53:01,020 John C Dvorak: During the war. He flew as a radio man on a PVY 2894 02:53:01,020 --> 02:53:03,330 flying boat in the war. As far as we know. He's the last 2895 02:53:03,330 --> 02:53:07,680 surviving PVY crewmen that was on Ford Island during the attack 2896 02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:10,170 on Pearl Harbor. Wow. 2897 02:53:10,980 --> 02:53:15,720 Adam Curry: Yes. And his birthday is on July. So he said 2898 02:53:15,720 --> 02:53:18,330 put them on the birthday List for July 24. He was born in 2899 02:53:18,330 --> 02:53:22,710 1921. Oh, we'll see him when he's 103. Just remind us he'll 2900 02:53:22,710 --> 02:53:25,920 still be here but he'll be a night. Beautiful. Alright. Well, 2901 02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:29,580 John, you know, that was a quick meeting. I didn't even get to 2902 02:53:29,580 --> 02:53:31,680 say anything. But you knew what I was going to say. I think 2903 02:53:31,710 --> 02:53:35,010 that's great, obviously, and thank you to Steven Pels markers 2904 02:53:35,010 --> 02:53:40,350 for for that bonus. knighting that's great. Lucas 2905 02:53:40,350 --> 02:53:42,780 John C Dvorak: Williams is up and he's in Roswell, New Mexico, 2906 02:53:42,780 --> 02:53:47,760 our favorite place. $100 sir Tigger, Max. In Vera Dale 2907 02:53:47,760 --> 02:53:54,570 Washington, 90. I will read this note. My local NPR station hit 2908 02:53:54,570 --> 02:53:59,250 me for an annual renewal. You guys are worth at least 50% 2909 02:53:59,250 --> 02:54:05,430 more. So instead of the 50 bucks he gave us 99 More or less or 2910 02:54:05,430 --> 02:54:10,560 something. Do the math. Steve Bowles in Fort Collins, Colorado 2911 02:54:10,590 --> 02:54:17,340 808. He's got some nasty comments about Haiti. Kevin 2912 02:54:17,340 --> 02:54:20,160 McLaughlin, our buddy in North Concord, North Carolina who's 2913 02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:25,230 the Archduke Aluna and lover of American boobs. 8081 ribbon one 2914 02:54:25,230 --> 02:54:31,110 hope one cure, sir becoming heroic in sharer or Ville, 2915 02:54:31,110 --> 02:54:39,600 Indiana 6886, which is jiggly boots, Edward Bolla in Dublin, 2916 02:54:39,600 --> 02:54:42,000 Ireland. 5678 2917 02:54:42,030 --> 02:54:44,940 Adam Curry: He says it I'm from Ireland, you filthy podcasters. 2918 02:54:44,970 --> 02:54:45,600 Nice, 2919 02:54:46,620 --> 02:54:52,140 John C Dvorak: nice. Comic Strip blogger for some reason now came 2920 02:54:52,140 --> 02:54:56,430 in with 5555. And he's now that we know he's in Rutherford, New 2921 02:54:56,430 --> 02:54:57,000 Jersey. 2922 02:54:57,270 --> 02:55:00,000 Adam Curry: That's got to be someone just that can't be 2923 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:01,050 commissure Boger 2924 02:55:02,129 --> 02:55:04,649 John C Dvorak: Well, it's a comic strip blogger donation as 2925 02:55:04,649 --> 02:55:08,159 what it says James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey. 2926 02:55:08,159 --> 02:55:16,349 5510 Sir John and Heber Springs, Arkansas 5317 Anonymous in of 2927 02:55:16,379 --> 02:55:23,189 Alpharetta, Georgia 50 to 71 sort of Luke in London, UK 50 2928 02:55:23,189 --> 02:55:23,549 ones 2929 02:55:24,090 --> 02:55:27,930 Adam Curry: is the URL of London URL, the URL of London 2930 02:55:27,960 --> 02:55:30,330 John C Dvorak: and the South John Holly and Blaine, Minnesota 2931 02:55:30,330 --> 02:55:34,620 5033. And now we have the $50 donors. There's not a lot of 2932 02:55:34,620 --> 02:55:37,440 them. So let's start that off name and location Phillip blue 2933 02:55:37,440 --> 02:55:42,060 in Louisville, Kentucky, Michael Perotti in Salem, Oregon, easy 2934 02:55:42,060 --> 02:55:46,980 landscapes in North Stonington Connecticut, Kelly MacDill and 2935 02:55:46,980 --> 02:55:50,430 Mission Hills, Kansas Michael Thompson and new brown fells 2936 02:55:50,430 --> 02:55:52,470 Texas, still irks me 2937 02:55:52,470 --> 02:55:54,840 Adam Curry: there on Frankenberg Braunfels new brand for 2938 02:55:54,840 --> 02:55:56,220 landfills Braunfels. 2939 02:55:57,150 --> 02:56:00,660 John C Dvorak: I'm still irked by that. Chris Lewinsky in 2940 02:56:00,660 --> 02:56:05,700 Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada Dawn Tao Dowsett Dowsett in 2941 02:56:05,700 --> 02:56:10,380 Milan, Italy. Day. Hey, 2942 02:56:10,500 --> 02:56:13,980 Adam Curry: Joe. Hey Joe, gory, gory it. 2943 02:56:15,090 --> 02:56:19,260 John C Dvorak: Joan Paul's in Hernando Beach, Florida, Peter 2944 02:56:19,320 --> 02:56:24,090 odo in orig New York. And last on our list is a birthday girl. 2945 02:56:24,930 --> 02:56:28,320 It's actually an honor of PACE Maynard for his birthday and 2946 02:56:28,320 --> 02:56:34,590 Nisa de douching. You've been deed deuced This is Julie 2947 02:56:34,590 --> 02:56:40,050 Hutchins of Norwood Colorado. That's our group of well wishers 2948 02:56:40,050 --> 02:56:44,190 and producers for show 1643 I want to thank each and every one 2949 02:56:44,190 --> 02:56:44,790 of them. Yes 2950 02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:46,920 Adam Curry: and thank you to everyone who came in under 50 2951 02:56:46,920 --> 02:56:50,580 Lots of people like to do that for guaranteed anonymity. 4999 2952 02:56:50,580 --> 02:56:53,820 is a favorite and many people down there who are doing a 2953 02:56:53,820 --> 02:56:56,190 sustaining donation we appreciate you so much. It 2954 02:56:56,190 --> 02:56:58,920 really helps when donations are a little bit lower because you 2955 02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:02,940 put it on automatic renewal. There's 11 elevens 3330 threes 2956 02:57:02,940 --> 02:57:06,660 1212 All kinds of things you can find suggestions for that at the 2957 02:57:06,660 --> 02:57:11,160 vortec.org/na or go to no agenda donations.com And again, thank 2958 02:57:11,160 --> 02:57:13,470 you to our executive and Associate Executive Producer for 2959 02:57:13,470 --> 02:57:15,120 episode 1643 2960 02:57:15,150 --> 02:57:19,380 Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out we get people in the 2961 02:57:19,380 --> 02:57:19,680 mouth 2962 02:57:39,390 --> 02:57:41,730 Adam Curry: we love saying happy birthday everybody. We do not 2963 02:57:41,730 --> 02:57:44,100 have an actual calendar so you got to email us with it the 2964 02:57:44,100 --> 02:57:46,950 night before the actual show of the birthday that needs to be 2965 02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:50,430 mentioned Jasmine we man was the son Jack a happy one he's 2966 02:57:50,430 --> 02:57:55,680 turning 10 Today, turning 16 Today is Finley. That is Philip 2967 02:57:55,710 --> 02:57:59,100 Veenstra son he says Happy Birthday Sir M and Dame and 2968 02:57:59,100 --> 02:58:02,340 Draya of the midvalley say happy birthday to their youngest human 2969 02:58:02,340 --> 02:58:06,180 resource Henry he is turning 14 and Julia Hutchins wishes 2970 02:58:06,180 --> 02:58:09,060 pacemaker to Happy birthday we say happy birthday from 2971 02:58:09,060 --> 02:58:11,850 everybody here's the best podcast in the universe 2972 02:58:21,060 --> 02:58:25,080 don't want to be induced and we have a title change. It's nice. 2973 02:58:25,080 --> 02:58:27,690 We got nice we've got a night we got dames. We've got a title 2974 02:58:27,690 --> 02:58:32,010 changes back to business here. Baronet this lady bird has upped 2975 02:58:32,010 --> 02:58:35,550 her game and the amount of over $1,000 that she added to it. And 2976 02:58:35,550 --> 02:58:40,230 she is now bareness ladybird, eagle of Toledo Bend All hail 2977 02:58:40,230 --> 02:58:43,500 the bareness and thank you very much bareness. We appreciate 2978 02:58:43,530 --> 02:58:47,970 your patronage here and you are now up on the peerage map now we 2979 02:58:47,970 --> 02:58:52,740 have 123 dame's on one night it's a good day today Johnson 2980 02:58:52,770 --> 02:58:57,480 bring out the big blade. Go Blue pretty one with a mother of 2981 02:58:57,480 --> 02:59:02,760 pearl handle beautiful. Up on the podium. Grandpa Richard 2982 02:59:02,760 --> 02:59:06,660 Hagen's Come on man. There you go. Oh, he's spry. pop right up. 2983 02:59:08,280 --> 02:59:13,140 Eva Shi'a, Andrea and Kimberly cram. You are the dame's all of 2984 02:59:13,140 --> 02:59:15,720 you are now welcome at the roundtable of the no agenda 2985 02:59:15,720 --> 02:59:18,720 Knights and Dames I'm proud to announce the Cade the as Sir 2986 02:59:18,720 --> 02:59:23,880 Hagen's de Max's of EVA, Dame Andy Jane and Dame Kimberlin 2987 02:59:23,910 --> 02:59:27,660 Kimberly cram for you we've got hookers and blow we've got rent 2988 02:59:27,660 --> 02:59:30,930 boys, and nothing but sand volleyball shorts take us 2989 02:59:30,930 --> 02:59:34,230 Tempranillo we got a couple of rocking chairs, sparkling cider 2990 02:59:34,230 --> 02:59:37,350 s for ginger ale and Jerboas breast milk and pablum and 2991 02:59:37,710 --> 02:59:41,880 mutton and Mead. Like can just see our brand new circa one 2992 02:59:42,390 --> 02:59:44,940 breast milk compatible. What kind of outfit is this? What are 2993 02:59:44,940 --> 02:59:47,970 these guys? I'm from from I'm from Pearl Harbor days. We 2994 02:59:47,970 --> 02:59:51,270 wouldn't have any of that on the radio on the wireless. Yes, you 2995 02:59:51,270 --> 02:59:55,020 can all go to no agenda rings.com I'm sure someone will 2996 02:59:55,020 --> 02:59:58,170 help sir Higgins and make sure that we get the right size for 2997 02:59:58,170 --> 03:00:01,860 all of you and an address. Send it off and it does come of 2998 03:00:01,860 --> 03:00:06,510 course with the very beautiful certificate of authenticity and 2999 03:00:06,690 --> 03:00:09,330 wax to seal your important correspondence with thank you 3000 03:00:09,330 --> 03:00:12,150 for being here. Thank you for becoming a night and danger the 3001 03:00:12,150 --> 03:00:15,210 no agenda roundtable your support matters, and we really 3002 03:00:15,240 --> 03:00:18,240 appreciate it. Congratulations. No one 3003 03:00:25,770 --> 03:00:29,280 you really need to enjoy the full aspects of the no agenda 3004 03:00:29,280 --> 03:00:32,610 show by going to a no agenda meet up without it's just it's 3005 03:00:32,610 --> 03:00:37,290 just not complete. So we have a lot of reports because we had 3006 03:00:37,290 --> 03:00:41,730 many meetups. I think Pi Day was a popular one the 15th as well. 3007 03:00:42,390 --> 03:00:45,840 We have a written meter report from Brian Aguila for the first 3008 03:00:45,840 --> 03:00:49,080 singing in a cornfield meetup. That was slow evening he 3009 03:00:49,080 --> 03:00:52,200 received a lesson in Ohio History and saying Mr. Roboto by 3010 03:00:52,200 --> 03:00:55,110 sticks, good food and cold beer. Well that sounds like fun. The 3011 03:00:55,110 --> 03:00:58,260 Blue Island meet up wasn't necessarily the first Blue 3012 03:00:58,260 --> 03:01:02,250 Island meet up Sir Brian with a why but they had one on the 16th 3013 03:01:02,250 --> 03:01:05,430 a suburb southwest of Chicago. We had about eight people all 3014 03:01:05,430 --> 03:01:08,520 familiar faces but still really fun. Remember when Mike at 3015 03:01:08,520 --> 03:01:11,580 Northwestern Indiana had no one show up when he showed up again 3016 03:01:11,580 --> 03:01:14,550 for us? We'd love seeing him but also we wanted to promote 3017 03:01:14,550 --> 03:01:17,460 another upcoming Chicago suburb meetup that he's going to plan 3018 03:01:17,490 --> 03:01:21,570 or rora. So thanks for the show ITM and stay safe 3.0 3019 03:01:21,870 --> 03:01:24,240 Unknown: And you missed out Abidjan? It turned to a fetish 3020 03:01:24,240 --> 03:01:24,600 party. 3021 03:01:24,780 --> 03:01:26,580 Captain Luke just happy to be here. 3022 03:01:26,880 --> 03:01:29,550 Hey, my name is Cynthia Suresh Meister. 3023 03:01:29,850 --> 03:01:33,570 Sir Montauk enjoy a beautiful day in Santa Rosa. Yawns 3024 03:01:33,570 --> 03:01:36,690 this guy here dude named Ben named Ben Cabo San Francisco 3025 03:01:36,690 --> 03:01:40,800 escaping this city for a fun afternoon. It's Adam and I 3026 03:01:40,800 --> 03:01:43,470 bought a dick naughty wine accessories.com 3027 03:01:46,260 --> 03:01:49,410 Adam Curry: snuck that one and Sonoma Wine Oh country or county 3028 03:01:49,410 --> 03:01:52,110 meet up there you go. Let's go to the Netherlands. 3029 03:01:52,140 --> 03:01:54,750 Unknown: Hi, this is Iris soon to be dealing with the Google 3030 03:01:54,750 --> 03:01:59,670 dogs. All the good habits United at Cafe bull and we're having a 3031 03:01:59,670 --> 03:02:04,110 blast. Frank aka Mike in the morning if you do not initiate 3032 03:02:04,170 --> 03:02:08,250 your boys they will burn down the village. Go Long connection 3033 03:02:08,250 --> 03:02:14,700 is protection. Loving it and Milberg were feeling connected 3034 03:02:14,700 --> 03:02:15,870 and protected. 3035 03:02:17,400 --> 03:02:22,410 There is no second best thank you for your goodness. Allah 3036 03:02:22,410 --> 03:02:27,120 here in the morning. This is Baron Marky Mark and I do 3037 03:02:27,120 --> 03:02:30,420 believe that Taylor Swift should revive the Moxie single 3038 03:02:31,290 --> 03:02:33,330 Adam Curry: great to be middleware connection is 3039 03:02:33,330 --> 03:02:37,170 protection then prompts them to be sir yeah both divining. 3040 03:02:40,680 --> 03:02:44,430 Michael here in the morning, in the morning, mostly on in the 3041 03:02:44,430 --> 03:02:45,270 morning news here 3042 03:02:45,270 --> 03:02:47,490 Unknown: in the morning. Marta in the morning. 3043 03:02:54,720 --> 03:02:55,980 John in the morning 3044 03:02:58,950 --> 03:03:00,090 here in the morning. 3045 03:03:02,220 --> 03:03:04,860 Not very proud of being a douchebag for more than 12 3046 03:03:04,860 --> 03:03:05,250 years. 3047 03:03:07,890 --> 03:03:10,080 Adam Curry: I think we're providing a great service to the 3048 03:03:10,080 --> 03:03:13,950 Dutch This is Middleburg in Salem that's in South Holland 3049 03:03:14,340 --> 03:03:18,360 people had to drive from a lot of places to get it took a while 3050 03:03:18,360 --> 03:03:20,280 to get there I'm very proud of you that Gouda 3051 03:03:20,850 --> 03:03:24,180 John C Dvorak: I'm fine the Dutch parties that they do they 3052 03:03:24,180 --> 03:03:26,910 sound like they're having a lot more fun than Americans are 3053 03:03:26,940 --> 03:03:29,550 they're hammered and with that just sounds like they're getting 3054 03:03:29,550 --> 03:03:32,610 it on that's for sure. Yeah, there's something going on with 3055 03:03:32,610 --> 03:03:36,030 those a good variety of people they got funny things to say ya 3056 03:03:36,090 --> 03:03:38,370 know, we got to pick up our game here. Here's 3057 03:03:38,370 --> 03:03:41,610 Adam Curry: the Jasper Georgia meet up report. This is sir are 3058 03:03:41,610 --> 03:03:42,090 out here in 3059 03:03:42,090 --> 03:03:44,910 Unknown: Jasper. We got three musketeers. I'm wondering who 3060 03:03:44,910 --> 03:03:49,350 might be the fourth. This is surgery. Remember, connection is 3061 03:03:49,350 --> 03:03:55,620 protection. Hey doctor, sir my crotch. Yeah, three RSVP. Three 3062 03:03:55,620 --> 03:04:00,330 showed up with a crowd. Shout out to the good old John 3063 03:04:00,330 --> 03:04:05,460 Fletcher and Carolyn Blaney of hogs story. Give it a listen and 3064 03:04:05,820 --> 03:04:10,380 go to a meet up guys. Adios mofos buying yes 3065 03:04:10,380 --> 03:04:13,560 Adam Curry: or my crotch? Yes beautiful either good there to 3066 03:04:13,560 --> 03:04:16,230 now. Always the most professionally Damon net there 3067 03:04:16,230 --> 03:04:19,410 produces the indie meet up report. This is from their march 3068 03:04:19,410 --> 03:04:23,970 meet up here we go. Hello, this is de Maria and Sir Mark. We 3069 03:04:23,970 --> 03:04:28,380 just made it back from VA for our meetup and we're so glad to 3070 03:04:28,380 --> 03:04:29,190 be back here 3071 03:04:29,220 --> 03:04:33,240 Unknown: in Morning John and Adam sir PBR street gang Adam 3072 03:04:33,240 --> 03:04:34,680 Victor who does strike in the 3073 03:04:34,680 --> 03:04:37,770 morning Dame Trinity having a great time in Indy as always, 3074 03:04:37,800 --> 03:04:41,160 thank you for your courage, Gary from Greenwood dynamic pricing. 3075 03:04:41,190 --> 03:04:44,070 Isn't that another way of price gouging without pissing off the 3076 03:04:44,070 --> 03:04:44,670 people this 3077 03:04:44,670 --> 03:04:48,630 is Lucas the American Pooh lash wishing the John seeds Rorschach 3078 03:04:48,660 --> 03:04:52,890 would pronounce his last name correct faces or tattenhall in 3079 03:04:52,890 --> 03:04:53,790 Indianapolis. 3080 03:04:54,090 --> 03:04:56,160 Thank you for your courage. 3081 03:04:56,250 --> 03:04:59,610 Hey, this is Emily the three eyed spook the original blind 3082 03:04:59,610 --> 03:05:04,230 donor I have like one slightly crappy AI one really bad eye and 3083 03:05:04,230 --> 03:05:04,920 one fake guy. 3084 03:05:04,950 --> 03:05:06,060 Are you at other blind people? 3085 03:05:06,120 --> 03:05:11,100 This is Bruce burgers and drinking some beers out. This is 3086 03:05:11,100 --> 03:05:13,800 syrup of the maple. It is wonderful to be part of the 3087 03:05:13,800 --> 03:05:17,910 Indiana no agenda community. Alinsky. 3088 03:05:17,940 --> 03:05:21,780 And if you donate $100 right now to the war in Ukraine, I'll send 3089 03:05:21,780 --> 03:05:23,640 you 20 new photos of me. 3090 03:05:25,020 --> 03:05:27,630 My name is Elena, I work at the burger bar and I had the 3091 03:05:27,630 --> 03:05:29,610 pleasure of serving the no gender group. They were 3092 03:05:29,610 --> 03:05:31,650 wonderful group of people and I hope to serve them again. 3093 03:05:36,870 --> 03:05:40,410 Adam Curry: Oh, man, I love those guys. I love our blind. 3094 03:05:40,650 --> 03:05:44,520 Our Brian producer, get the pod verse app it has accessibility 3095 03:05:44,520 --> 03:05:47,790 built right in. Everyone is welcomed with these meetups and 3096 03:05:47,790 --> 03:05:50,970 everyone is treated equally was just it makes me smile. I love 3097 03:05:50,970 --> 03:05:53,700 it so much. We have a couple of meetups taking place today. The 3098 03:05:53,700 --> 03:05:56,160 mountains and rivers meet up at 330. It's underway now at the 3099 03:05:56,160 --> 03:06:00,810 damn restaurant and bar that's in South Slocan in British 3100 03:06:00,810 --> 03:06:05,430 Columbia. On Tuesday, the St. Louis Missouri suppertime meet 3101 03:06:05,430 --> 03:06:08,670 up six o'clock at gingham homestyle restaurant in St. 3102 03:06:08,670 --> 03:06:12,900 Charles, Missouri. On Wednesday, the next NYC meet up there you 3103 03:06:12,900 --> 03:06:16,740 go the gym saloon New York City Dan was organizing I hope a lot 3104 03:06:16,740 --> 03:06:19,170 of people show up there. Maybe we'll throw some rats on the 3105 03:06:19,170 --> 03:06:22,260 barbecue for you. And then next show day Thursday Rosie the 3106 03:06:22,260 --> 03:06:26,190 Riveter day Denver meetup. Oh John. It's Rosie the Riveter day 3107 03:06:26,190 --> 03:06:30,540 on Thursday. Write it down promotion. Lincoln wrote her 3108 03:06:30,540 --> 03:06:34,350 dish. Well, I'm just I'm just reading ma'am. Lincoln Roadhouse 3109 03:06:34,350 --> 03:06:38,040 in Denver, Colorado and it is a Thursday so it Charlotte's Third 3110 03:06:38,040 --> 03:06:41,730 Thursday, Thursday. monthly meet up at seven o'clock at Ed's 3111 03:06:41,730 --> 03:06:44,490 Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. We've got a lot of 3112 03:06:44,490 --> 03:06:48,450 meetups planned at no agenda meetup.com special highlight for 3113 03:06:48,450 --> 03:06:51,960 the Houston Texas meetup. They wanted some extra plugs there. 3114 03:06:51,960 --> 03:06:58,140 That'll be on the 23rd, Osaka, Osaka, Japan on March 30. And oh 3115 03:06:58,140 --> 03:07:01,770 my goodness, and another one in the Netherlands, Leiden on May 3116 03:07:01,770 --> 03:07:04,800 9. So that should be a party. And they always are a party. 3117 03:07:04,800 --> 03:07:07,140 These meetups are completely organized by the producers 3118 03:07:07,140 --> 03:07:11,160 themselves. We have a meetup organization site which sir 3119 03:07:11,160 --> 03:07:16,050 Daniel has he volunteers all his time, his time and his talent. 3120 03:07:16,320 --> 03:07:19,590 Go to a no agenda meetup connection is protection. You 3121 03:07:19,590 --> 03:07:23,100 will love it. I guarantee it. No agenda meetups.com If you can't 3122 03:07:23,100 --> 03:07:26,430 find one winning or you start one yourself, it's easy and you 3123 03:07:26,430 --> 03:07:28,770 will dig it. Sometimes 3124 03:07:28,770 --> 03:07:37,320 Unknown: you want to go hang out with the Dyson days. You will be 3125 03:07:37,380 --> 03:07:46,080 triggered you will to be everybody feels the same say is 3126 03:07:46,080 --> 03:07:46,380 like 3127 03:07:49,350 --> 03:07:54,180 Adam Curry: alright, and to show ISOs I have three three. I think 3128 03:07:54,180 --> 03:07:56,700 I may have one here. A somatic way, 3129 03:07:56,730 --> 03:07:58,800 John C Dvorak: but we wouldn't let me play mine first. Oh, 3130 03:07:58,830 --> 03:07:59,280 well, I 3131 03:07:59,280 --> 03:08:00,240 Adam Curry: mean, I'm not that 3132 03:08:00,240 --> 03:08:02,850 John C Dvorak: sure of it. But when you hear mine you will. 3133 03:08:04,620 --> 03:08:07,230 Adam Curry: Okay, what you got? So I got 3134 03:08:07,350 --> 03:08:09,390 John C Dvorak: this is way too long, but I just thought it was 3135 03:08:09,390 --> 03:08:15,180 so funny that I could pull it at all this is ISO nude. Nude nude 3136 03:08:15,180 --> 03:08:15,690 colored. 3137 03:08:17,340 --> 03:08:19,440 Adam Curry: Yeah, I see the problem. Okay. Yeah. 3138 03:08:20,070 --> 03:08:28,290 John C Dvorak: Similar laughing hyena on. No, no. No, no, no, 3139 03:08:28,290 --> 03:08:30,990 no. Yeah, 3140 03:08:31,050 --> 03:08:34,350 Adam Curry: well, it would be I think, let me see I've three 3141 03:08:34,470 --> 03:08:40,410 these first two. I don't think you're any good. Here's our Do 3142 03:08:40,410 --> 03:08:42,990 you know who that is? By the way. Does that sound you'll 3143 03:08:42,990 --> 03:08:44,550 never get Jordan 3144 03:08:44,550 --> 03:08:48,420 John C Dvorak: Peterson Rachel Maddow. Oh, our I can hear it. 3145 03:08:48,450 --> 03:08:48,750 Yeah. 3146 03:08:49,320 --> 03:08:53,160 Adam Curry: There's this one. But there's more. Little 3147 03:08:53,160 --> 03:08:55,800 flamboyant. There's more sense. And how about this one? I just 3148 03:08:55,800 --> 03:08:58,770 channeled me Lucky Charms. Lucky Charms. 3149 03:08:58,860 --> 03:08:59,490 John C Dvorak: God. 3150 03:09:00,030 --> 03:09:04,050 Adam Curry: Do you like our gar? Alright, are you it is I am 3151 03:09:04,050 --> 03:09:09,960 digging. news. Good news. Good news. Good news. Good news. This 3152 03:09:09,960 --> 03:09:12,330 is how we'd like to take you into the rest of your show day 3153 03:09:12,330 --> 03:09:14,430 as you were like, well, you're not relaxing. You're all drunk. 3154 03:09:14,430 --> 03:09:16,950 So this would be good for you. We'd like to bring you some good 3155 03:09:16,950 --> 03:09:20,130 news. So you can feel good until the next podcast because the 3156 03:09:20,130 --> 03:09:23,220 news is nothing but crap. In the meantime, John, what do you have 3157 03:09:23,220 --> 03:09:24,570 for today's good news segment. 3158 03:09:25,110 --> 03:09:28,230 John C Dvorak: This is a story about the wandering boy. A 3159 03:09:28,260 --> 03:09:33,000 special needs student at a local elementary school decided to 3160 03:09:33,000 --> 03:09:38,130 just go for a leisurely walk and disappeared from the school. 3161 03:09:38,130 --> 03:09:41,280 Nobody they didn't nobody spotted me left and it was they 3162 03:09:41,280 --> 03:09:44,010 had to be rescued by some passerby. Oh, 3163 03:09:44,040 --> 03:09:47,370 Unknown: we got a missing kid Kiante Edmondson, getting the 3164 03:09:47,370 --> 03:09:50,310 word out on social media Friday that this little boy was 3165 03:09:50,310 --> 03:09:51,630 missing. I 3166 03:09:51,630 --> 03:09:55,230 said, Well, hey, maybe if people share this because parents or a 3167 03:09:55,230 --> 03:09:58,860 relative or somebody can see I wasn't doing they're trying to 3168 03:09:59,190 --> 03:10:02,910 be viral. or not that I was trying to get some help for an 3169 03:10:02,910 --> 03:10:05,340 exercise. He first spotted the boy around one o'clock when he 3170 03:10:05,340 --> 03:10:07,140 was driving on Joy road, and I 3171 03:10:07,140 --> 03:10:11,130 just seen a young man jogging down the street. And I noticed 3172 03:10:11,130 --> 03:10:14,160 he didn't have a coat on and I noticed that he wasn't nobody 3173 03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:17,430 behind him. So I bust a U turn. Edmondson, 3174 03:10:17,430 --> 03:10:20,250 caught up to him and tried to get with him. But he noticed 3175 03:10:20,250 --> 03:10:22,680 immediately that he may have special needs. 3176 03:10:22,710 --> 03:10:25,590 He did the thing with the IRS like Shawn Murphy from the good 3177 03:10:25,590 --> 03:10:29,250 doctor. Then when I was talking to him, he wasn't particularly 3178 03:10:29,250 --> 03:10:32,490 respond and he wasn't very well verbal at all. 3179 03:10:32,520 --> 03:10:35,730 He says other people who saw the boy running stopped to help him 3180 03:10:35,850 --> 03:10:38,640 and missing call. The police then went live on social media 3181 03:10:38,640 --> 03:10:42,030 to get the word out. In 10 to 15 minutes. He says Dearborn police 3182 03:10:42,030 --> 03:10:44,880 arrived with a school official from McDonald Elementary where 3183 03:10:44,880 --> 03:10:46,710 the boy went to school. But 3184 03:10:46,710 --> 03:10:51,000 once he saw his teacher, he was more comfortable. And you know, 3185 03:10:51,000 --> 03:10:53,970 it's and she had, I don't remember what she said his name 3186 03:10:53,970 --> 03:10:57,570 was but he seemed somebody that he was more familiar with. So 3187 03:10:57,570 --> 03:10:57,900 Fox 3188 03:10:57,900 --> 03:11:00,240 Two reached out to McDonald Elementary, and they said via 3189 03:11:00,240 --> 03:11:03,570 text that the student walked off the school grounds of diversity 3190 03:11:03,570 --> 03:11:07,020 and normal around 1215 in the afternoon. The statement reads 3191 03:11:07,020 --> 03:11:09,720 in part quote, fortunately, the student was not harmed or 3192 03:11:09,720 --> 03:11:12,540 injured. Parents were contacted and I along with several 3193 03:11:12,540 --> 03:11:15,390 district administrators spoke with the parents to explain what 3194 03:11:15,390 --> 03:11:18,330 had occurred. This uncommon incident does not reflect the 3195 03:11:18,330 --> 03:11:21,360 procedures or practices, followed by staff members for 3196 03:11:21,360 --> 03:11:24,690 safe supervision of students. The district is conducting an 3197 03:11:24,690 --> 03:11:27,690 investigation to determine the facts of how this situation 3198 03:11:27,690 --> 03:11:31,380 occurred. And quote, they vow accountability. The boy wandered 3199 03:11:31,380 --> 03:11:35,190 a mile away and miss it says he's grateful to boys okay, and 3200 03:11:35,190 --> 03:11:37,950 that he's sprung into action when he saw him. God 3201 03:11:37,950 --> 03:11:40,590 just put me in the right place at the right time. Amen, 3202 03:11:40,590 --> 03:11:43,470 Adam Curry: brother. No nice, nice little God twist at the 3203 03:11:43,470 --> 03:11:46,320 end, John. Nice. Nice. I love that. 3204 03:11:46,770 --> 03:11:48,480 John C Dvorak: It's an interesting story. Yeah. Take 3205 03:11:48,480 --> 03:11:52,440 Adam Curry: care of your kids, everybody. News, everyone. 3206 03:11:52,440 --> 03:11:56,130 That's my good news. At the end of another episode of the No 3207 03:11:56,130 --> 03:11:59,400 your no agenda show actually, we are always very proud to 3208 03:11:59,400 --> 03:12:04,740 deconstruct the news for you. And we have a couple of index 3209 03:12:04,740 --> 03:12:07,860 show mixes we have a brand new one for Professor J. Jones. That 3210 03:12:07,860 --> 03:12:11,250 will be for our Slenderman product line. We've got a 3211 03:12:11,250 --> 03:12:14,580 classic bingo Boom shakalaka. And of course we will bring back 3212 03:12:14,580 --> 03:12:19,650 in Claire, a member of European Parliament to wish everybody a 3213 03:12:19,650 --> 03:12:24,090 Happy St. Patrick's Day. If you're sticking a troll room.io 3214 03:12:24,090 --> 03:12:28,110 or one of the modern podcast apps, we have a special live 3215 03:12:28,110 --> 03:12:30,810 show we're going to switch over it's it's just it's just like a 3216 03:12:30,810 --> 03:12:34,170 real radio station. It's pretty cool. Behind the schemes the 3217 03:12:34,170 --> 03:12:38,490 value for value goat drive ahead looking to do a live concert on 3218 03:12:38,490 --> 03:12:41,190 the stream for April 6 And I think that needs some some 3219 03:12:41,190 --> 03:12:44,700 lighting equipment and stuff. So make sure you stay tuned for 3220 03:12:44,700 --> 03:12:47,400 that it's always cool with that Boober in the gang behind the 3221 03:12:47,400 --> 03:12:51,300 schemes coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country 3222 03:12:51,300 --> 03:12:56,580 here and FEMA Region number six where it's kind of chilly. A 3223 03:12:56,580 --> 03:12:59,760 little bit dark in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry here 3224 03:12:59,760 --> 03:13:02,130 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain 3225 03:13:02,130 --> 03:13:03,960 I'm John C. Dvorak we return 3226 03:13:03,960 --> 03:13:08,070 Adam Curry: on Thursday, apparently, is Ruby Rose in the 3227 03:13:08,070 --> 03:13:11,940 river today. I remember us it no agenda donations.com Until then 3228 03:13:11,940 --> 03:13:15,420 adios mofos Hui Hui, and such 3229 03:13:15,720 --> 03:13:19,080 Unknown: Hello Gitmo nation. On this day where everyone is 3230 03:13:19,080 --> 03:13:23,100 Irish. I wish y'all been knocked in a fella poor record. So raise 3231 03:13:23,100 --> 03:13:26,310 a pint to our host John and Adam. And before you spend all 3232 03:13:26,310 --> 03:13:29,670 your money on hedonistic buck, an alias of drink and access in 3233 03:13:29,670 --> 03:13:32,910 the name of a paper saint. Remember to set aside some 3234 03:13:32,910 --> 03:13:36,180 treasure for our favorite media deconstructionists. Thank you 3235 03:13:36,180 --> 03:13:36,990 for your courage. 3236 03:13:37,080 --> 03:13:40,620 Police officers today can actually text the judge tell 3237 03:13:40,620 --> 03:13:43,710 them they've got you there and you got a phone they want to 3238 03:13:43,710 --> 03:13:46,470 look at and the judge in the middle of the night because then 3239 03:13:46,470 --> 03:13:49,050 you would text back and say he approves and bingo Boom 3240 03:13:49,050 --> 03:13:49,680 shakalaka 3241 03:13:55,650 --> 03:13:57,930 John C Dvorak: like that, we just dropped at the end of 3242 03:13:57,930 --> 03:14:03,750 anybody's clip. You should make this little bitty clip. BINGO 3243 03:14:07,590 --> 03:14:08,910 BINGO Boom shakalaka 3244 03:14:15,180 --> 03:14:16,980 Adam Curry: think we need to incorporate that into our 3245 03:14:16,980 --> 03:14:27,510 vocabulary. Go ahead, make my day go. Away buddy. Bingo boom. 3246 03:14:28,770 --> 03:14:33,480 Unknown: I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass on a 3247 03:14:33,480 --> 03:14:34,110 ball 3248 03:14:34,110 --> 03:14:38,130 automating great ways jumped at 3249 03:14:38,130 --> 03:14:40,380 John C Dvorak: the end of anybody's clip. Whatever it is. 3250 03:14:43,080 --> 03:14:45,720 Taking cars off me again. 3251 03:14:48,510 --> 03:14:50,460 Unknown: I'm sorry then being open. 3252 03:14:52,080 --> 03:14:57,300 Like that. What we've got here is failure. 3253 03:14:59,700 --> 03:15:07,440 You can't handle the table the first rule of fight club is you 3254 03:15:07,440 --> 03:15:11,400 do not talk about being surely can be serious. 3255 03:15:11,790 --> 03:15:19,800 I am serious. And don't call me a contender a Corbin somebody 3256 03:15:21,330 --> 03:15:22,350 instead of being 3257 03:15:24,330 --> 03:15:27,210 John C Dvorak: dropped at the end of anybody's bingo Boom 3258 03:15:27,210 --> 03:15:27,480 shaka 3259 03:15:27,480 --> 03:15:33,240 Unknown: laka laka you gotta say I'm a human being God direct my 3260 03:15:33,240 --> 03:15:34,290 life has value. 3261 03:15:35,700 --> 03:15:39,510 Adam Curry: Chewing gum has similar appetite curbing effects 3262 03:15:39,510 --> 03:15:44,130 to ozempic Chewing sugarless gum may be an economical and 3263 03:15:44,130 --> 03:15:48,720 effective method to help obesity patients say You fatty lose 3264 03:15:48,720 --> 03:15:49,140 weight 3265 03:15:51,090 --> 03:15:58,920 Unknown: for me to the gum you will be bad today PubMed 3266 03:15:58,920 --> 03:16:04,410 Adam Curry: so oficial cases effectiveness ozempic to 3267 03:16:04,410 --> 03:16:09,180 Unknown: the gum for me to the gum and enjoy 3268 03:16:11,400 --> 03:16:14,100 Adam Curry: our study showed positive results it is worth 3269 03:16:14,100 --> 03:16:17,100 conducting a large scale clinical research study to 3270 03:16:17,100 --> 03:16:19,710 verify the effectiveness of this method. This 3271 03:16:19,710 --> 03:16:23,400 John C Dvorak: is not a strategy that would ever work in a 3272 03:16:23,400 --> 03:16:24,120 million years 3273 03:16:24,810 --> 03:16:28,290 Adam Curry: chewing sugarless gum can increase say she say she 3274 03:16:28,290 --> 03:16:32,790 a tea exit strategy I mean I don't want to pass up this this 3275 03:16:32,790 --> 03:16:38,010 dynamite opportunity for us we're gonna get a snappy jingle 3276 03:16:38,400 --> 03:16:38,820 to 3277 03:16:38,820 --> 03:16:46,530 Unknown: the GM homie fatty to the GM and don't be mad today to 3278 03:16:46,560 --> 03:16:49,320 Adam Curry: World Order is suggested as a brand name. I 3279 03:16:49,320 --> 03:16:52,020 like that it's safe and effective 3280 03:16:52,140 --> 03:16:58,650 Unknown: to the gum foamy fatty to the gum you will be hungry. 3281 03:16:59,700 --> 03:17:03,060 Adam Curry: Mac and cheese flavor. endless possibilities, 3282 03:17:03,060 --> 03:17:10,530 John, no agenda, no weight gain, all healthy to world. We just 3283 03:17:10,530 --> 03:17:14,730 call it gum. That's how we exit but we could sell gum that helps 3284 03:17:14,730 --> 03:17:18,360 you lose weight. You need more than a million morons. It's as 3285 03:17:18,360 --> 03:17:21,420 effective as ozempic According to reports, according to 3286 03:17:21,420 --> 03:17:22,080 research. 3287 03:17:30,030 --> 03:17:33,690 MoPhO boruch.org/in