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John C Dvorak: and going
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
Devora January 7 2024 This is

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your award winning given nation
media assassination episode

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1623. This is no agenda.
deconstructing decompression and

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broadcasting live from the heart
of the country here and favorite

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range and number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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John C Dvorak: in northern
Silicon Valley where everybody

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agrees that the NFL season is
too long. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Wins the Super Bowl.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, a couple
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's too long.
I thought it was January oh wait

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no January's the Oscar

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John C Dvorak: it used to be as
a matter of fact you like

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Adam Curry: remember I remember
used to be I knew that

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John C Dvorak: in us in February
March I think it's February You

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Adam Curry: bet you have you
read about that conspiracy about

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the the Super Bowl logo that you

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John C Dvorak: apparently Yeah,
yeah, so the coolers determine

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who's gonna colors that are in
the new newly designed logo at

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the beginning of the year the
colors of the teams that the

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Adam Curry: Hey, your volumes. I
can jack you up here but you're

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really outputting low. Did you
change something? Nope. Oh? Why

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do I even ask?

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John C Dvorak: What do you ask?
I never change anything because

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I don't use this this whole rig
except once a week twice a week

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Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just
gonna jack you up

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John C Dvorak: that day it's
regular. It's not

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Adam Curry: but okay. It is. I'm
going to jack you up here I can

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jack you up here but that you
normally I have you plus two dog

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biscuits now I've got yet five
so just saying

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John C Dvorak: baby it's the
connection. No, it's not the

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connection. The connection it
could be it could be clean feed

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connection is protection.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. What do
you got no protection here. This

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thing is no good. Oh, anyway, so
it's okay I just jacked you up a

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bit. I just wanna make sure you
educate the gate man. Well, well

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well well well, it was very hard
for the M five M to admit what

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was really going on. What's
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This hole in the plane there's a
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John C Dvorak: hole hole in the
plane there's a whole lot of way

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they made it when they first
when this story first appeared.

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I don't have any clips. You
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I don't think I do. But whatever
the case, when they first showed

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the shot of it from the inside
of the plane, they made it sound

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like the sight of the plane just
flew like a hole. Yeah, like a

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window and it is a door. It was
a it was a door assembly. That's

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the point. And they never
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reports Exactly. And what's
going on, you must have some

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sides on Sunday. I do first

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Adam Curry: Let's Play. The most
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Unknown: flight 1282 carrying
177 passengers was 35 minutes

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into its journey from Oregon to
Ontario, California. When part

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of the fuselage was torn off
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the aircraft. The pilot was
forced to alert aircraft control

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to the severity of the
situation. We are depressurized

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but we do need to return back
passengers spoke of hearing for

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emergency oxygen masks dropped
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shows the dangling masks and a
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have been and the passengers
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I look to my left and there's
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airplane just like missing and
extremely loud there's wind

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blowing everywhere so it was a

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trip from the plane landed
safely at Portland to the relief

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of all on board among them even
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there's not anything I have any
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see what happened and they said
there was a kid in that row who

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his shirt was sucked off him and
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Adam Curry: this everyone had
this bit and the shirt was

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sucked I'm I'm I'm going to
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John C Dvorak: Like there was
that and then the other one

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which a lot of the way I have a
report for PBS I have the PBS

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version from yesterday if you
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that kept throwing they kept
throwing into the mix was the

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cell phones

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Adam Curry: Yes. Cell cell
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John C Dvorak: now watch I
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nobody's on their cell phone on
these on these?

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Adam Curry: Everybody's on their
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flew? Book COVID We everyone's
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They're watching movies to play
in games. If coma

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John C Dvorak: if you're
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wouldn't have on their phones.
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Adam Curry: please. Like these
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entertainment. You get what you
connect to the Wi Fi you can

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either pay for the Internet, or
you can watch the movies on your

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phone. You need three laptops.
When do you need to get out

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you're gonna grab a house and
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Unknown: Late today the FAA
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grounding of about 171 Boeing
737 Max nines until the planes

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can be inspected. It comes after
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old 739 Max nine last night at
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after the Alaska Airlines Flight
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The rapid depressurization
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one was seriously hurt in the
plane. They that emergency

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landing safely back in Portland.

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Adam Curry: How come no one
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got everybody, everybody they
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the mom with a kid whose t shirt
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John C Dvorak: think that would
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the second one. This report just
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yesterday's PBS weekend news
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a window blew out when it was an
entire door assembly. Well, yes,

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this. So first, what is the
reason for covering that up?

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Adam Curry: because it's really
the airlines who have made

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determinations about your
safety. And this comes from our

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buddy Joe over there to NL Ria,
which is airline backwards, I

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have a hardest time remembering
that URL, I have to look up his

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email every single time en
ILRIA. Airline reverse. Anyway.

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And Neil RIA B says, okay, he
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came off. Because Alaska
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airline sip, I think there's
one, there's one, one of the low

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cost European carriers, when
they receive these planes brand

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new, they have determined by
law. And I don't know when this

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was or by FAA regulation don't
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that you only need one emergency
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planes come equipped with an
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the hole blew out. But then they
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come off the assembly line. So
they can put in a couple extra

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seats. And the door plugs that
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assembly in place minus the
slide minus all you know all the

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stuff that you would normally
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they should never blow out
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that basically a fake door
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should never blow out because of
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But this plane had previous
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they didn't mention that in the
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BBC. So either they over
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been which could have been for
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feet, you're pressurizing it
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pretty quickly actually. So over
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they under pressurized, and the
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it's all in. So it's pilot
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air. That's possible. But the
bottom line is, this should just

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be an emergency door there. The
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line, just to squeeze in a few
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approved, of course. But if you
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you have a door, it comes off
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door plug in there. That's
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John C Dvorak: sense. Yeah. Boy,
they don't care

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Adam Curry: about you. They
don't care. They don't care

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about your safety at all, at
all. So that's really what what

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happened is, you know, this is a
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plug in there instead of the
door I will never sit next to

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that spot ever in any plane if
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you'd have to know because you
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reason that the fact that they
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in most of the reports was to me
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John C Dvorak: and no one that
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you see the side of the plane
when they find it door did show

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that it's a door I

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Adam Curry: know I know. I love
that so this news model had some

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melts on her mind. You know the
news now Alaska Airlines

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Unknown: is grounding its fleet
of 736 Nine Max

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Adam Curry: jets after are
really 736 Nine. Is that what

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you're thinking of? What are the
gaff that is how do you get from

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737 Max nine to 736 Nine.

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John C Dvorak: I may have heard
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Maybe there's just a bunch of
jokers.

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Adam Curry: Maybe Maybe whatever
the case all the board

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Unknown: trains good planes At

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Adam Curry: the end, just
because it was a female pilot

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doesn't mean anything. In fact,
it's probably the first officer

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who monitors pressurization. But
there's lots of stuff going on

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with these dei hires and we've
talked about it. You know, we

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know that a lot of ex navy and
air force pilots can't get a job

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because the after they after
they leave service because you

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have to either be gay black or
female to get a job. If that's

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what all the airlines are hiring
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someone on on X was was exiting,
slashing tweeting to United

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Airlines, because this person
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aviation. On July 29, the United
States or at Hey, at United on

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July 29, United plane was nearly
totaled after a hard landing who

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was flying that aircraft? Was it
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attendant who was fired and then
rehired through United's dei

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program, despite being enlist
and not returned to United? Am I

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correct that this individual
failed multiple trainings,

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including simulator training? Am
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covered up this dei disaster and
many others? was the number two

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at the Denver hiring center also
onboarded through Dei, did she

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or did she not change fit?
Failed grades for dei hires

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because quite quote, it makes
the numbers look bad. Didn't the

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instructor who failed this co
pilot asked corporate why they

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passed him. This is this is a
disaster that's going on. Of

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course we know all the ATC guys
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us ourselves I have dad's Great.
So now therefore some people on

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the trains that's what that's
always how it winds up get on

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the train. So you've learned
something here, you can sound

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smart now at the watercooler
tomorrow. When everyone's

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talking about other stuff, you
can say you know what, that was

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an actual door and they take
that door out because they want

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to jam more seats in what that's
that's a safety issue. That's

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what they should be looking at.
Not anything else. But of

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course, you know, let's let's
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fleet. And I'm sure I'm sure
it's a problem. modifying it

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after the fact. So there you go.
You're up to speed.

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John C Dvorak: Sounds like it.

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Adam Curry: Let's just do
something completely completely

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off topic from news because I
was so I was so excited to get

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this clip this morning. Normally
or passed away last year, and we

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know that Norman Lear was part
of the Hollywood he he started

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the Hollywood Foundation, which
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John C Dvorak: that was actually
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foundation. Was it called

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Adam Curry: the I thought it was
the Hollywood I thought it was

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the Hollywood foundation. Are
you sure Miller Yeah. Hmm.

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John C Dvorak: the Hollywood
found anything there is a

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Hollywood foundation

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Adam Curry: let me see
foundation. Foundation Hollywood

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that's what it is. Hola, Leah
foundation Hollywood. Oh, no,

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I'm sorry. Right. Lear
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what it was. Health and Society.
So we've talked about Norman

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Lear how influential his his his
programming was. And I would say

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that we always thought the most
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family, which really created
this Archie Bunker archetype,

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which would have been a
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collar Republican looks like,
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John C Dvorak: was when there
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Adam Curry: well he created that
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Bunker, oh gee Maga. So Desmond
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his name. He was Lamont on
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right Sanford and Son. They ran
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little bit more of the genius of
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thing was what a lot of people
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when my agent called me and
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don't want to do television, as
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came away thinking So this is
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of the patriarchal system. And
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announcer tried to cut me off.
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knowing women, young women
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tch word and rebelling. And it
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they asked me what I said, I
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a visionary. Right. But then
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affiliations, it all fell into
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was right on the money. No, I
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and nobody got it. They missed
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bonds talking about Northern
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going to have to leave behind
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Adam Curry: Demin Wilson, not
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love that. I never considered
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John C Dvorak: Well, he himself
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Adam Curry: but it was yes. All
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when, when the child parent
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it was the it was the whole
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John C Dvorak: was the extreme
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this day. I think married with
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genius level of programming.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Everyone
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beyond like Ted Bundy. I sit
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watching the TV. People loved it
was great. Yeah, the Little did

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you know, Little did you know.
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transgenderism. First.

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John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
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change the subject completely.
I'm not the new networks that

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have evolved from the open air
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OTA antennas, there's me TV,
meaty b two, there's antenna.

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they've got no programming.
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white material from the late 50s
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Harriet. And Leave It to Beaver.
And the shows which have a

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completely different mentality
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came after Norman Lear. Right.
And it's fascinating to watch

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some of these old dog shows that
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are put together. Especially
Leave It to Beaver. They're put

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together so so beautifully by
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knew what they were doing. As
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that comes out today. It's it's,
it's, it's very contrast the I

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don't know what effect that's
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psyche, but it's going to have
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Adam Curry: I like to the two
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that I can't find any more
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on OTA is Gunsmoke guns
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John C Dvorak: on a couple of
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course, heroes and icons, I
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Adam Curry: How about Little
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John C Dvorak: Lots of the
praise on I

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Adam Curry: have not seen it
What's that on? Where can I find

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I love little I can't remember
which which

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John C Dvorak: was one of the
networks is one of these screwy

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networks. I love Little House on
the Prairie I read the show was

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the worst. I hated Little House
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that is on now. makes you mad.
Hate It makes me mad. It's so

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stupid. No,

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Adam Curry: but it was
beautiful. If Have you ever read

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the books? No course not this
good books that Laura Ingalls

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wrote this about the Pioneer. I
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TV show. Paul, the man those
that it was hard times back in

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the day. Well, yeah, when they
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West. Yeah, that's good stuff.
But a group, the who I don't

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know if it started in the US,
but there's a British group. Now

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just I want to stick a stick in
the trans Maoism which of course

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Norman Lear had a hand in as to
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this so peak woke And so
disturbing that this has now

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taken the UK by storm.

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Unknown: Drag syndrome is
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in Berlin. They're Britain's
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collective for performers with
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The feeling I get from
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Hey, I'm Nick, aka initiates a
cold day with Nikita

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loyal lady, to those who work
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Adam and the other members of
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persona has went on stage and
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against society, and a statement
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for people with disabilities.
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Since the group was formed in
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several continents. They've also
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Glastonbury Festival. And for
the fashion magazine vote, it's

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still rare to see people with
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stage. The dance collective
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with disabilities to pursue
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Adam Curry: This really disturbs
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of Downey end

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John C Dvorak: of civilization
you're playing a clip by the

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way, instead of doing that the
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Adam Curry: What what did you
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John C Dvorak: I said he should
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Adam Curry: A good one. So, you
know, I've worked with Downey's

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in a lot of different situations
as the called Downey's by the

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way and a lot of situations. And
I'm sure that they love

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performing but I'm pretty sure
they're not necessarily drag

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queens people who need to
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usually gay men. Usually. It's
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making a mockery. It's so woke
and so yeah, exactly. They

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should just put them up to up in
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stage and drag have them fly
around. The I worked with a very

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famous Dutch Downey band called
The juste band never tell the

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story. Nope, they use the band J
O S T, I can look it up. They're

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still around the just the band
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they they would perform it I
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show or something and they were
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certainly the the keyboardist
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they on their keys they had all
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would hit the right colors
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no know what to play so they
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playing. But this particular
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this confetti cannon goes off
this confetti everywhere. They

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didn't know what keys to hit
anymore. It was it was all over

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everything had all these
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on it. Good times with the
Downey's okay. So anyway, I just

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found this disturbing end of
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right or being it's disturbing.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, like freak
shows. Yeah, that's

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Adam Curry: exactly this like to
the bearded lady. Yeah. And

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John C Dvorak: in a lot more of
that. Anyway,

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Adam Curry: the 18 for you, the
18 foot man with the mitten with

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his midget wife. Oh, my
goodness. So where do you want

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to go? I mean, there's been
obviously been a lot of

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political news in the United
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Biden. Did his big January 6.
Commemoration speech on January

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5, which Yeah, that sounds right
was just completely lame. He was

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definitely jacked. But he wasn't
overjoyed not over jacked but I

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did by chance have dinner with
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medical field here I don't want
to take it too far. And I said

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what do you think he was jacked
up on with without skipping a

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beat? You know my my man says
Adrenochrome No, yes. And I say

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Drina comb really that easy?
Yes. in powder form. You can get

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Adrenochrome in the United
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John C Dvorak: You can people
should look up Audrina Chrome in

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the wicked people.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, he says that
and probably some Parkinson

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drugs, which can it's like
epinephrine like on steroids,

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epinephrine and steroids is but
he said Adrenochrome Parkinson's

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drugs. He says you got to be
careful because you can take it

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too far but he's deaf. Only
jacked up on that. And it but

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the first thing you said was,
yeah, is that this is not the

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old Biden, this is a different
Biden, which I also thought

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looking at his hair. This hadn't
been did we lose the original

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Biden? This guy doesn't look
like him anymore?

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's a
good question. He really

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possible I mean, I mean,
obviously we've seen enough

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movies that know that this is
always in the script.

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Adam Curry: Doesn't really look
like the like, well, he's

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John C Dvorak: still got to st
might be when did we lose him?

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original election? Because he

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still has the same cadence and
he still has the same? No, no,

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I'm not kidding. No joke, not a
joke. When when they applause

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and it's like he's triggered
when there is an applause line.

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Yeah, that was the real say, No,
I'm not kidding. No joke. He

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Adam Curry: didn't say that at
all this

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John C Dvorak: time. Did he?
Yes, he did. I don't have a I

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didn't bring a copy with me. But
he did. He did the firt. The

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first round of applause he got
he says, No, I'm not kidding.

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why does he say that? If you're

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a politician, and you get a
round of applause. Have you been

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getting rounds of applause over
the years? For people telling

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you to just move along? Like
their words? You said something?

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They get? Yeah, yeah. Clap,
clap, clap. Go on to the next

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topic. Yeah. So they're not
taking you seriously. Because

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he'll say, seriously, right.
When it gets a round of

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applause.

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Adam Curry: I think we lost the
OG Biden in the basement. Don't

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you think that's where it?
Where'd he the switch happened?

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John C Dvorak: Well, it's
definitely the same Biden that

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got elected. And whether this is
the original Biden, the real the

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real Dubberly, Joe Biden, who is
a real kind of a wise acid, a

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snarky, yes. As opposed to the
Joe Biden, who has hairy legs. I

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got hairy legs, that Joe Biden,
I think the Joe Biden was

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swapped out before the election.
If you're new to the new,

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remember this show in our show,
we played the drunk not drunk.

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Yes, yes. Yeah, we play Biden
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reminiscent of what we're
hearing today.

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Adam Curry: If you're new to the
no agenda show, don't worry. It

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gets better. It does. I'm new to
the show and they're already

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talking about to Biden's I don't
know, man. Have a couple of

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packages here. Of of his speech.
This is a roll these out ABC.

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Unknown: Tonight in his first
major speech of the election

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year, President Biden made the
case Donald Trump is an

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existential threat to our
democracy.

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This is the first national
election since January 6,

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insurrection placed a dagger at
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since

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Adam Curry: not the worst, some
there's some good writing I

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liked dagger at the throat of
American democracy. as writing

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goes if I were writing for him,
I kind of liked that one. That

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moment.

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Unknown: We all know Donald
Trump is question we have two

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answers who are way?

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Adam Curry: Another interesting
line? Who are we? I think that's

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I think that's well thought out.
Of course, when he says I'm

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like, I don't know you're one of
the two Biden's That's what's at

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stake.

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Unknown: Through our way. Biden

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traveling to Valley Forge,
Pennsylvania, and woking, George

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Washington's words to his troops
at the dawn of the American

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Revolution, a sacred

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cause that was a phrase used a
sacred cause. freedom, liberty,

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democracy. Today, we're here to
answer the most important

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questions. Is democracy still
America's sacred cause? Now,

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John C Dvorak: this was never
they know, it wasn't democracy.

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The sacred code of liberty?
Isn't that he says that to

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buddy. He has this thing about,
you know, they're trying to push

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this idea, this democracy idea.
And they're pushing it by trying

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to keep Trump off the ballot, or
try to arrest him. I think

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that's fascinating that everyone
goes along with this. But the

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hours listen about democracy,
and besides that they were they

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hated democracy they wanted
that's why they became a

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republic. Yes.

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Adam Curry: But that but that's
the SIOP. And I wonder if that's

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still lands, it's so it's almost
like saying, Hitler. It's so

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overused democracy, democracy,
democracy is like how do we even

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lose democracy? Something we
never had start with, but how do

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you lose it? And then and that
was our sacred what do you what

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do you say exactly that was our
sacred sacred cause? Maybe.

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Unknown: freedom, liberty
democracy. Today we're here to

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answer the most important
questions. Is democracy still

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America's sacred cause? I

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Adam Curry: think we need to ask
ChaCha btw Can I be assisting?

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Yes. Let's see. So, chat GPT.
The question is, what is

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America's sacred? Sacred? Cause?
Is that what he said? Yeah, is

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America's sacred cause? Let's
see chat. GPT says the concept

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of sacred cows can be subjective
and interpreted blah, blah,

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blah. Some of the core values
Declaration of Independence,

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constitutional values, freedom
and freedom and democracy.

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Number three. Down at the bottom
number five American dream

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that's almost off the list. It's
no it's not even in the top

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three.

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John C Dvorak: Just getting by
by overtaking Biden

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Unknown: accusing Trump of using
violence to clean to power,

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Trump exhausted every legal
avenue available to him to

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overturn the election. Everyone
but the legal path just to Trump

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back to the truth. Okay, that I
had won the election and he was

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a loser.

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Adam Curry: The president you
know, the the the script writers

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like, yeah, this will really get
his goat. We'll call him a

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loser. He hates it when we do
that. Yeah, yeah, put it in.

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That's good, that

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Unknown: I'd won the election
and he was a loser.

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The President reminded Americans
what Trump told that crowd on

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January 6,

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he told the crowd to fight like
hell, and all hell was

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unleashed. The whole world
watched in disbelief. And Trump

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did nothing was among the worst
dereliction of duty by a

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president in American history.
The

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President warning if Trump wins
re election, the worst could be

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yet to come. Trump's

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not concerned about your future,
I promise you. Trump is now

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promising a full scale campaign
of revenge and retribution. His

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words?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, that was kind
of weak. Hey, you know, I was

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looking at those Rangers or
whatever. They were at the

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monument. Did you see any of
that footage?

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John C Dvorak: No, I did not.

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Adam Curry: So I guess there. It
seemed like park rangers. They

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had like Park Ranger hats on. It
could have been but they gotta

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like long hair dudes was really
long hair that didn't sit right

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with me. Sure. It

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John C Dvorak: wasn't women. No,
no. No.

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Adam Curry: It was just like,
huh. No tattoos everywhere,

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which is okay, I guess that's
permissible. But when you think

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of park ranger, you're thinking
of a guy that's, you know,

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that's, that's got a buzz cut.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, you're not?

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Adam Curry: I don't Yeah, well,
you don't think of a guy with a

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mullet?

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John C Dvorak: I think a guy
that's what I would think. Yeah,

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the guy is a park guy to do nice
about nature a man there's this

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chipmunk.

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Adam Curry: But that's not the
guy you put up front and center

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is? No, no, no.

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John C Dvorak: We have to get
anyone else you get your dei

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issue here we

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Adam Curry: have. We have BIA.
That's true. We have park

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rangers in and get my nation so
they'll let us know. Shorter

532
00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:03,510
report from NBC

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00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:05,490
Unknown: tonight the Supreme
Court announced that it'll hear

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whether former President Trump
can be banned from the ballot in

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Colorado because of his role on
January 6, taking up the

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Republican front runners appeal
of a Colorado courts ruling to

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kick him off the ballot. Mr.
Trump arguing it's partisan

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election interference. The
announcement coming just hours

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after President Biden visited
the Revolutionary War site at

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Valley Forge. Arguing democracy
is at stake in November. This

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is not rhetorical academic or
hypothetical. We

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00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:33,660
Adam Curry: know the
significance of the

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Revolutionary War Memorial. It
what is that trying to tell us

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that we're about to have a
revolutionary war against

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something and then some China
what are we what is the point?

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John C Dvorak: That's when
America at that point is by it

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might have it might be a point
to with somebody like Biden,

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00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:58,590
who's at? Yes, it is pointless.
It's totally pointless to the

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general public has been dumbed
down don't even know it. I would

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say if you went on the street
and ask people what was Valley

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Forge? Who was valley where it
was Valley Forge or anything,

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you'd get a zero?

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Unknown: Yeah. For the democracy
is still America sacred cause

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Adam Curry: it's there it is.
Democracy is still our sacred

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cause. It's not even on that not
even number one on the list.

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Unknown: Joe is the most urgent
question of our time.

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Adam Curry: It's the press
question is not just a question,

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the most urgent question.

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John C Dvorak: How does he go
from? It's a sacred cause? And

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it's a question.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Well,

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John C Dvorak: how is it a
question,

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Unknown: most urgent question of
our time.

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It's the president's latest
efforts to draw a contrast with

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Mr. Trump, who he's warning is
an existential threat. You know

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Trump

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in his Maga supporters not only
embrace political violence, but

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they laugh about it. He

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Adam Curry: trumpet his Maga
supporters that that's like

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deplorable level. statement
calling is Magga support

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00:34:53,429 --> 00:34:55,709
Unknown: Mr. Trump in Iowa
firing back.

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That's why crooked Joe is
staging is pathetic fear

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mongering. campaign event in
Pennsylvania today. Did you say

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you say I'm a threat to
democracy? He's a threat to

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democracy.

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Adam Curry: I think it's good
NBC put that in. And then

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finally, yes, CBS.

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Unknown: Kicking off the
election year in battleground

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state, Pennsylvania, President
Biden directly attacked his once

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and potentially future foe,

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America. As we began this
election year, we must be clear,

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democracy is on the ballot. Your
freedom is on the ballot.

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The President rarely invokes
Trump's so directly. Trump's

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assault on democracy isn't just
part of his past. It's what he's

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promising for the future.
Trump's not concerned about your

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00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,440
future, I promise you. Trump has
now promised a full scale

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00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,620
campaign of revenge and
retribution. There's no

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confusion about who Trump is,
what he intends to do.

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The speech was meant to remind
Americans in Trump's involvement

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of the January 6 insurrection
three years ago Saturday, Trump

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did nothing was among the worst
dereliction of duty by a

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president in American history.

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And it comes as the President's
team believes it can try

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refocusing on Trump's attempts
to overturn the 2020 election

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results as the economy turns the
corner. Inflation is easing.

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There was another positive
monthly jobs report today. And

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00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:28,830
gas prices are hitting recent
lows. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: that's actually in
Biden's favor. That he should be

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talking more about that.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, he
doesn't even know. Yeah, but

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let's go to that when I played
Capehart and Brooks, because

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they analyze this

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Adam Curry: K part and Brooks.

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John C Dvorak: Here's, we're
gonna go with I'm trying to

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decide what these two there's
your decision and democracy are

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but let's go to K part on Trump.
This is about the this is the

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level of discourse you have in
the liberal elite media and what

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they actually think this clip is
key part on decision, the

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Unknown: Supreme Court deciding
today they will consider a

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former President Trump's appeal
of the Colorado State Supreme

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00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,760
Court decision to remove him
from the ballot there that was

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on the basis of the insurrection
clause of the 14th. Amendment.

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This, Jonathan puts the highest
court in the land squarely in

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the center of one of the hottest
political battles this year.

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What's your reaction to them
taking this case up and how it's

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going to unfold?

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They have to take it up? Because
this is one of those questions.

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This this ballot access
question. primary ballot access

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00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:44,850
question in the immunity
question is never been tested in

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00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,080
in our lifetimes or in recent
memory. And the fact that

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Colorado and Maine have booted
him from the ballot, Illinois is

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00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,800
trying to join the effort
Minnesota and one other state

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that skips Michigan have have
said no, you have a patchwork of

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States and California visions.
And I think the prosecutor you

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who you had on earlier, makes a
good point. What we have to look

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for now is whether the Supreme
Court does a big broad universal

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decision or goes very, very
narrow. For a court that puts a

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lot of emphasis and a lot of
emphasis emphasis on the

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Constitution and what the
framers meant and strict

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00:38:30,510 --> 00:38:34,830
originalist interpretation. I'm
looking forward to seeing them

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00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:38,520
maybe upholding the Colorado
decision.

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Adam Curry: That's not what
they're going to be arguing

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about. But okay.

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00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,300
John C Dvorak: Then he thinks
they should uphold the Colorado

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decision. Nobody in their right
mind thinks this. Including

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00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:58,620
Brooks who says this is he
thinks a world go nuts if that

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00:38:58,620 --> 00:39:03,120
happened, but this guy thinks
that they should. And he's he's

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00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,170
a complete lunatic. And he's
like one of the main analysts

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00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:10,440
for PBS along with Brooks and
listen to this second clip from

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00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,180
him where he talks about Trump
and Biden speech.

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00:39:17,130 --> 00:39:19,020
Adam Curry: On second drive, the
right clip here,

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John C Dvorak: the BK part on
Trump, democracy, democracy. I'm

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00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:26,640
Unknown: sure you all saw
President Biden deliver that

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really powerful speech today at
Valley Forge in Pennsylvania. He

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is making the threat to American
democracy a central part of his

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reelection campaign. What did
you make of this speech and also

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00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:39,330
him centering that message for
voters? Right? Well,

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this is going back to the
beginning. First, this was his

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fifth speech since since his
election, on this theme of the

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threats to democracy. This is
going back to the beginning

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because when he announced he was
running for president in 2020.

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He zeroed in on Charlottesville
and talked about this was a

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00:39:57,570 --> 00:40:01,500
fight for the soul of America.
The his speech today did not

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have that as the title, but
that's what he's talking about.

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That's what he talked about
today. That's what he's been

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talking about in the previous
four speeches. And I think it is

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right for him to do this to
focus to focus on that. Because

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without democracy, none of the
other things that Americans

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want, will get done. And to make
a focus on the potential

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00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:30,570
Republican nominee, someone who
has said even today, saying

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that, you know, I'm only going
to be a dictator for one day,

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and all of the other plans that
we know he wants to put in place

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if he wins, if he wins election
again, democracy as we know, it

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will end Oh, Donald Trump is
reelected. Okay.

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Adam Curry: I have 1k part clip,
because k part not only is on

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PBS, but he's also on MSNBC.
This guy is a piece of work. I

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mean, this is by far one of the
best acting jobs I've ever seen

668
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,030
from a news model, which of
course he is. He brings on one

669
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of the Capitol policemen who has
written a book. This is

670
00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:14,790
interesting dude, by the way,
barely burly dude with a beard

671
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:20,670
and a huge neck tat. And NK part
introduces him and then just

672
00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:21,450
falls apart.

673
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Unknown: Joining me now in
studio is Michael foreknown,

674
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:28,530
former DC Metropolitan Police
Officer coverage for America

675
00:41:28,530 --> 00:41:32,670
council member and author of
hold the line the insurrection

676
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:36,630
and one cops battle for
America's soul. Obviously for

677
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known I'm going to try to get
through this. Thank you for what

678
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you did three years ago today.

679
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Adam Curry: He has a hanky and
everything Capehart is

680
00:41:55,050 --> 00:41:56,250
fantastic.

681
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John C Dvorak: He's an editor at
the Washington Post. This is a

682
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this is a shameful element in
our news media. This joker.

683
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Adam Curry: This is I gotta hear
that again. I love how the voice

684
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:14,910
cracks he's got the hanky he's
so emotional about this man who

685
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who he's a hero he kept American
democracy held held the line for

686
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Unknown: America so obviously
for known I'm gonna try to get

687
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through this. Thank you for what
you did three years ago today

688
00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:38,430
John C Dvorak: on believable

689
00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:42,750
Adam Curry: house great, these
great more que part. I want you

690
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:46,590
he's kind of the new Van Jones
in Van Jones cry and

691
00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:50,280
John C Dvorak: evangelists. Band
maybe is the new Van Jones.

692
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,000
That's an interesting point you
just made Yeah. The second half

693
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,140
of the K part group is Brooks.
Yes. You have K part and Brooks.

694
00:42:58,140 --> 00:43:01,140
They do this analysis. Every
Friday on the PBS NewsHour.

695
00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:04,350
There's two guys agreeing with
each other 90% of the time. It's

696
00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:08,340
laughable. It's not you get
nothing out of it. But but you

697
00:43:08,340 --> 00:43:11,190
do get to hear a few interesting
things. Brooks is supposed to be

698
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:16,500
the more center right? It'd be
even though he's just as left as

699
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:20,130
the other guy. But listen to
this is because we played a

700
00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:24,420
bunch of clips of Biden in his
speech. And here we go. I want

701
00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:29,040
to play this. This is Brooks
commenting on the Biden energy

702
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Unknown: data. We've talked
about this before. I mean, the

703
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:33,450
economy has been such a big part
of their message. And even

704
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:37,230
though the data show it is doing
really well, like when you look

705
00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:40,950
at the big picture numbers,
you've got 216,000 jobs added in

706
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:44,850
December, the inflation rates
down to 3.1%. unemployment below

707
00:43:44,850 --> 00:43:49,530
4% 4% rather for nearly two
years and yet that isn't

708
00:43:49,530 --> 00:43:53,460
catching on with voters. Is this
message going to resonate? It's

709
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:55,980
important but not enough. I
think it was a powerful speech.

710
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:56,070
I

711
00:43:56,070 --> 00:43:58,230
think when he continues to give
powerful speeches like this, he

712
00:43:58,230 --> 00:44:01,110
will further rebut the idea that
he's out of it. There's a

713
00:44:01,110 --> 00:44:03,960
doddering old grandpa. He's
clearly an energetic guy, with

714
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,020
passion, with fervor and with
force. He's the guy running this

715
00:44:07,020 --> 00:44:07,770
administration.

716
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Adam Curry: Where's the sound
effects? She didn't have a

717
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,040
boiling or anything in there.
Come on, that you needed that. I

718
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,510
mean, please. Well, there was a
lot about we have an opinion, by

719
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:24,570
the way from our constitutional
lawyer on this 14th amendment,

720
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,040
section three, which I will get
to first we need to have a

721
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,580
little mini cut. Now I must
spend a moment on something that

722
00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:35,370
will go on to too much attention
over the next few weeks.

723
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:40,230
baseless claims by the President
and his supporters. That there

724
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:43,260
has been widespread voter fraud
baseless

725
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,100
Unknown: claims of voter fraud
baseless claims of voter fraud

726
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,520
baseless claims of fraud
baseless claims of fraud

727
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:54,390
baseless claims of voter fraud
baseless claims of voter fraud

728
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:54,810
baseless

729
00:44:54,810 --> 00:44:56,370
claims of voter fraud baseless

730
00:44:56,370 --> 00:44:59,970
claims of voter fraud baseless
claims of voter fraud.

731
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,080
baseless claims about voter
fraud baseless claims about

732
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,340
voter fraud. Okay.

733
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:08,070
Adam Curry: I think we got the
message. Basically that's it's

734
00:45:08,070 --> 00:45:10,500
weak, baseless.

735
00:45:13,049 --> 00:45:15,989
John C Dvorak: It has a base
it's a claim or it's not a

736
00:45:15,989 --> 00:45:16,649
claim.

737
00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:19,290
Adam Curry: It's baseless.
Whatever it is. It's baseless,

738
00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:24,030
but every claim has a base.
Does. Yes.

739
00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:26,250
John C Dvorak: There's a claim
there's a base to every claim

740
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:29,820
you make a claim. Unless you're
claiming I don't know what you

741
00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:33,030
could what is a baseless claim.
I mean, the fact that they put

742
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:36,660
the talking point out there the
Democrats did did a good job of

743
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:40,440
getting the media to parrot it.
Yep. baseless, baseless,

744
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:46,080
baseless. It was successful. Job
to Word of the Day is baseless.

745
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,430
Adam Curry: Alright, got

746
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:47,970
John C Dvorak: it. Got it.

747
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:51,990
Adam Curry: So let's, of course,
Trump is back on the Colorado

748
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:54,720
ballot. Because the Supreme
Court has said they will take

749
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,950
the matter up, President

750
00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:58,050
Unknown: Trump is said to be
certified as a candidate on

751
00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:01,080
Colorado's primary ballot
despite the state Supreme Court

752
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,650
ruling him ineligible under the
14th amendment. I want to bring

753
00:46:04,650 --> 00:46:07,110
in senior Washington reporter
Devin Dwyer along with senior

754
00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:10,350
reporter Catherine folders for
more Catherine wise Colorado

755
00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:14,490
Secretary of State Certifying
Trump on the GOP ballot, despite

756
00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:18,060
that ruling. Alright, so this is
tied up in the courts of bid

757
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:21,750
here. But the bottom line is, if
an appeal of that was like how

758
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:23,760
Adam Curry: to just gloss over
that, you know, it's like, well,

759
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,610
that's tied up in the courts a
bit here. But that's the whole

760
00:46:26,610 --> 00:46:27,960
point. Right.

761
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,240
Unknown: So this is tied up in
the courts a bit here. But the

762
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:34,680
bottom line is, if an appeal of
that was filed before today,

763
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,160
he's essentially back on the
ballot. We know, the Colorado

764
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,120
GOP appealed to the US Supreme
Court. That was on December 27.

765
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,210
Even Trump's attorneys
effectively appealed this on

766
00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:48,900
Wednesday, January 3, so that
put him back on the list. That's

767
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:52,410
why he of course is scheduled to
be certified on this ballot

768
00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:54,630
today. So until the Supreme
Court and I know Devin could

769
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:57,210
talk more about this, but until
the Supreme Court essentially

770
00:46:57,210 --> 00:47:00,480
picks up the case and acts by
either refusing to review the

771
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,260
case or by somehow siding with
the Colorado Supreme Court. He

772
00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:07,080
is essentially effectively on
the list. I

773
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,720
Adam Curry: love the essentially
effectively. Okay, so we got

774
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:13,380
that part. So hilarious,
essentially effective. Let's

775
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:16,080
bring in Devin, he'll explain
what's going on here. Devin,

776
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,290
when

777
00:47:16,290 --> 00:47:19,680
Unknown: could the US Supreme
Court take the case and what's

778
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,370
at stake here?

779
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,930
Adam Curry: This is ABC. Well,

780
00:47:21,930 --> 00:47:24,630
Unknown: Dan, the justices are
meeting right now for their

781
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:27,780
first regularly scheduled
private conference of the year.

782
00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:31,170
This is when they consider
petitions like President Trump's

783
00:47:31,170 --> 00:47:34,590
petition, and vote on whether
they'll decide to even take up

784
00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:36,900
this case. Now ordinarily,
something like these Trump

785
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:40,200
appeals, which just came in, in
the past few days, are sort of

786
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,020
too soon to be considered in a
conference like this. But we

787
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:46,320
know that the parties, as
Catherine mentioned, have asked

788
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,040
the justices to expedite this,
they want a decision quickly.

789
00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:53,670
And that decision could come as
soon as later this afternoon,

790
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:56,250
whether they will expedite
consideration, not necessarily

791
00:47:56,250 --> 00:48:00,960
that they'll take the case. But
the justices are not on any

792
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,140
fixed timeline so they can rule
whenever they want to. And

793
00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:06,210
they're going to want to be
careful. This is a historic

794
00:48:06,210 --> 00:48:08,820
case, a highly divisive a
political case, one of the

795
00:48:08,820 --> 00:48:11,760
biggest cases politically that
they will have heard or had a

796
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,270
chance to consider since Bush
versus Gore 20 years ago. So

797
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:17,850
they're going to want to take
their time and potentially take

798
00:48:17,850 --> 00:48:19,860
some off ramps here. Well,

799
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:22,350
Adam Curry: I've been talking to
our constitutional lawyer, Rob

800
00:48:22,350 --> 00:48:27,720
Forbin. Jag he's been around,
then. And he he's I put it on

801
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,210
the show notes his entire
opinion. It's it's quite

802
00:48:30,210 --> 00:48:35,610
lengthy. And he he's he really
broke it all down the section

803
00:48:35,610 --> 00:48:40,860
three. And he you know, he's
analyzing the text the way you

804
00:48:40,860 --> 00:48:44,070
read it. And of course, you have
the traditionalists who might

805
00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:46,920
say we have to read it in the
context of when it was written.

806
00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:49,410
But he goes through all that.
But he says, I believe that

807
00:48:49,410 --> 00:48:52,740
section three likely does indeed
apply to the president, even

808
00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:57,510
though it's a close call. But
that probably won't be the

809
00:48:57,510 --> 00:49:03,840
issue. The issue will come down
to okay, then if Trump wasn't

810
00:49:03,870 --> 00:49:08,550
insurrectionists, which has yet
to be proven somewhere. Section

811
00:49:08,550 --> 00:49:13,710
five comes into play, which
reads, The Congress shall have

812
00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:17,010
the power to enforce by
appropriate legislation, the

813
00:49:17,010 --> 00:49:20,880
provisions of this article. And
you're already kind of hearing

814
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,080
that narrative spin up, where
Okay, the Supreme Court can say

815
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,050
yes, they'd apply to the
president, but and they probably

816
00:49:28,050 --> 00:49:33,420
would put it but Congress has to
determine what what sanctions

817
00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:36,090
you put on this and to my
knowledge that has never been

818
00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:41,820
done. And when it says the
Congress, I'm presuming that I

819
00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:44,850
don't know what rules that would
go under if it's a straight up

820
00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:48,780
and down majority vote if you
need a supermajority, obviously,

821
00:49:48,780 --> 00:49:51,510
would be the House of
Representatives and the Senate.

822
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:55,260
So that could be you know, the
House would probably say yes or

823
00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:57,990
no. And the Senate would
probably say yes, based upon

824
00:49:57,990 --> 00:50:01,500
straight party line votes. But I
think this this could actually

825
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:07,320
be a gambit. In Me, possibly,
because Trump wants this. He's I

826
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,880
want to know, let's get this out
there. Does this apply to me? It

827
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:17,490
could be a boomerang effect. If,
you know there's a lot of this

828
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,290
was that guy from Louisiana? The
gruff guy. He's on the he's on

829
00:50:22,290 --> 00:50:26,670
the he's on some important
committee. Yummy. Kennedy. No,

830
00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:32,850
no, no, no, no different guy. I
forget his name. Bald guy. He's

831
00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:36,420
a he's kind of a tough guy,
tough guy. Okay, he was on

832
00:50:36,420 --> 00:50:43,680
toggle. He was on Tucker. So he
claims that there were

833
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:50,460
approximately 200 federal agents
inside and in the crowd on

834
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:55,680
January 6, if that somehow comes
out, and they have some kind of

835
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,280
we have a year to do it,
basically. And we have some

836
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,300
hearings and then determined
well hold on a second. This was

837
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:10,050
a scam. Well, then Biden would
be directly involved in an

838
00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:17,100
insurrection. And then it could
apply to him. Wishful thinking,

839
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,430
maybe, but there's something up
with Trump wanting this so

840
00:51:20,430 --> 00:51:24,120
quickly. Yeah, we want this. We
want this. There's something

841
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,840
going on here that I think it'll
come down to Will Congress do

842
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,070
this? Does Congress have the
power? And so now, of course, we

843
00:51:32,070 --> 00:51:37,710
have to start determining if
well, two things really what

844
00:51:37,710 --> 00:51:41,550
really what Trump did Trump
started an insurrection. What

845
00:51:41,550 --> 00:51:48,630
was his role? And George Steph
was flapless. That had a run

846
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:51,600
down and I guess they got to
Jonathan Karl to report on Dan

847
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,720
Scavino, and others who were
under oath. Good

848
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:57,660
Unknown: morning, and welcome to
this week. As we mark three

849
00:51:57,660 --> 00:52:01,380
years since the January 6
insurrection, the 2024 election

850
00:52:01,380 --> 00:52:04,710
is shaping up to be a referendum
on what happened that day and

851
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:07,620
what it means for the future of
our democracy. That was the

852
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:10,650
theme of President Biden's first
campaign speech Friday, as he

853
00:52:10,650 --> 00:52:13,080
blasted Donald Trump for January
6.

854
00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:18,240
blasted. Trump did nothing was
among the worst dereliction of

855
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:21,810
duty by a president in American
history

856
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,010
John C Dvorak: that's opening

857
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:25,920
Unknown: overturn a free and
fair election by force and

858
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,490
violence.

859
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,970
And in Iowa this weekend, Trump
responded with repeated lies

860
00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:33,030
about the 2020 election and
calls to free the convicted

861
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:36,870
January 6 writers whom He called
hostages. This morning, we have

862
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:38,970
exclusive new reporting and what
Trump was doing at the White

863
00:52:38,970 --> 00:52:41,580
House on January 6 is the writer
searched through the Capitol.

864
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,190
Chief Washington correspondent
John Karl starts us off. Good

865
00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:44,790
morning, John.

866
00:52:44,850 --> 00:52:46,770
Good morning, George. Exclusive

867
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,890
Adam Curry: exclusive inside
detailed reporting now Scavino

868
00:52:50,190 --> 00:52:51,450
was adobe after

869
00:52:51,450 --> 00:52:53,520
John C Dvorak: marriage. John
Karl, a member of the Council on

870
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,840
Foreign Relations better the
correspondence? Yes, exactly.

871
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,560
For lefty

872
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:03,180
Adam Curry: dance Covino was the
White House Deputy Chief of

873
00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:07,410
Staff before that he managed
Trump's Westchester golf club.

874
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,920
They should have thrown that in
I don't know why they missed

875
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,450
that. That interesting detail.

876
00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:15,360
John C Dvorak: You know that
you're right is don't get why

877
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,760
they keep missing stuff like
this. They're sloppy.

878
00:53:17,790 --> 00:53:20,970
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, Jonathan
Karl, I guess he had his

879
00:53:20,970 --> 00:53:23,430
marching orders. So he just did
what you're supposed to do. Dan

880
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:26,910
Unknown: Scavino is known Donald
Trump since he was 15 years old.

881
00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:30,060
worked for him for more than
three decades starting as his

882
00:53:30,060 --> 00:53:33,930
golf caddy. Nobody inside the
White House outside of family.

883
00:53:34,050 --> 00:53:38,280
That's good at the golf caddy is
great. Had a closer relationship

884
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:38,460
with

885
00:53:38,460 --> 00:53:41,490
Him. The great days give me the
most powerful man in politics

886
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,360
Scavino great

887
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,490
Adam Curry: editing. I mean,
this is good. Yeah, that's the

888
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,500
that's the soundbite you want
helped manage

889
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,230
Unknown: Trump's Twitter,
Instagram and Facebook accounts

890
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,860
is also one of just a handful of
people who were with Trump on

891
00:53:55,860 --> 00:54:00,030
January 6, as the attack on the
Capitol was unfolding. The

892
00:54:00,030 --> 00:54:03,390
January 6 committee wanted to
talk to him but he defied their

893
00:54:03,390 --> 00:54:07,200
subpoena. After a court battle,
he did finally talk to Special

894
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,400
Counsel Jack Smith's team of
investigators Scavino his office

895
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,610
was just outside the Oval
Office. And sources familiar

896
00:54:14,610 --> 00:54:18,930
with the investigation. Tell ABC
News Scavino told investigators

897
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,080
he went in to see Trump as soon
as he saw the violence had

898
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,430
broken out at the Capitol. Now

899
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:26,130
Adam Curry: remember, he's
already said sources familiar

900
00:54:26,130 --> 00:54:29,250
with the matter. So this is all
conjecture that comes now. The

901
00:54:29,250 --> 00:54:32,670
next 50 seconds is all just
whatever sources familiar with

902
00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:33,870
the matter said no one's on

903
00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:36,150
Unknown: record. And he
described Trump's sitting in his

904
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:39,780
small dining room next to the
Oval Office. His arms folded

905
00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:43,350
staring at the television
watching live coverage of the

906
00:54:43,350 --> 00:54:44,880
attack on Fox News

907
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:49,530
Adam Curry: This is beautiful.
There is no there is literally

908
00:54:49,530 --> 00:54:52,650
this is baseless there's no
evidence is just sources

909
00:54:52,650 --> 00:54:55,890
baseless sources familiar with
the matter now describing you

910
00:54:55,890 --> 00:55:00,390
can see Trump seeing their arms
folded, scowling Looking at the

911
00:55:00,390 --> 00:55:01,530
television were

912
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,560
John C Dvorak: crazy, crazy man.

913
00:55:04,620 --> 00:55:07,800
Unknown: Trump was angry Scavino
told investigators According to

914
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,400
the sources, saying the election
had been stolen from him, and

915
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,870
that his supporters were quote,
angry on his behalf, as has been

916
00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:19,230
described by the January 6
committee report. Second,

917
00:55:19,710 --> 00:55:22,410
John C Dvorak: you have to give
me your calves and he says, this

918
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,700
election was stolen from me, and
they're acting on my behalf.

919
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:29,040
What do you what kind of
dialogue is this?

920
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:33,300
Adam Curry: Oh, it's it's
propaganda is what it is, of

921
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:36,900
course, that that's how you set
the narrative. That's how you

922
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:39,360
get people to sit there and look
at a half dead guy who's

923
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,310
president and go, you have four
more years

924
00:55:41,340 --> 00:55:44,550
Unknown: stolen from him, and
that his supporters were quote,

925
00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:48,570
angry on his behalf. As has been
described by the January 6

926
00:55:48,570 --> 00:55:52,200
committee report. Other advisors
came in to see Trump as well,

927
00:55:52,380 --> 00:55:55,560
including White House lawyers,
Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows,

928
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,310
and eventually his daughter,
Ivanka Trump, all urging him to

929
00:55:59,310 --> 00:56:02,760
make some kind of statement
telling his supporters to leave

930
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,450
the Capitol. The sources say
Scavino described Trump as non

931
00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:10,740
responsive and his demeanor as
quote very unsettling. As he

932
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:15,210
continued staring at the TV.
Soon he told investigators all

933
00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:19,110
of the advisors left the room,
leaving Trump alone. i

934
00:56:19,410 --> 00:56:22,140
John C Dvorak: Oh, please,
horses, you know, this is this

935
00:56:22,140 --> 00:56:27,480
is reminding me of this of the
narrative that was created. And

936
00:56:27,810 --> 00:56:33,660
people older, you might even
remember this. During Nixon's,

937
00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:39,540
just before Nixon quit. He
resigned from the presidency

938
00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:42,930
because he was going to be
impeached. And in the end of

939
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:46,350
media created and this goes back
by the way that our media

940
00:56:46,350 --> 00:56:48,870
deconstruction we could have
been doing this show 30 years

941
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:53,820
ago, and it wouldn't have been
much different. They created

942
00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:58,020
this notion and it's again, an
unsubstantiated, but it became a

943
00:56:58,050 --> 00:57:02,490
practice kind of like to say it
reminds me of the J. Edgar

944
00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:07,950
Hoover in a dress, which turns
out to be bogus. Yep. But Nixon

945
00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:12,480
was crawling around on his hands
and knees in the right house.

946
00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:13,230
Yes, I

947
00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:16,020
Adam Curry: remember that. Yes,
I was young, but he I sure do.

948
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,470
John C Dvorak: And we get that
stuck in our mind because the

949
00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:22,590
media created the image of Nixon
crawling around in his hands.

950
00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:25,950
And he's there is no evidence of
this. By

951
00:57:25,950 --> 00:57:28,470
Adam Curry: the same token, I
always have the image of

952
00:57:28,530 --> 00:57:33,570
President Obama smoking
cigarettes in the in the in the

953
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:37,920
residence watching basketball
games. I mean, I'm sure that's

954
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,300
bull crap, too. But

955
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:43,830
John C Dvorak: that probably
quit smoking. No, he never quit.

956
00:57:43,830 --> 00:57:46,140
But I'm sure he watched a lot of
basketball. You loved it.

957
00:57:47,370 --> 00:57:50,160
Adam Curry: Okay, so now we
continue with Jonathan. Carl's

958
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,010
reports is great reporting.
Jonathan's just fabulous.

959
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:55,440
Unknown: And John, this all
comes of course, is Donald Trump

960
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,800
is still making the 2020
election central to his 2024.

961
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,520
Campaign.

962
00:57:59,820 --> 00:58:02,670
Yeah, in Georgia. This is a very
important point. According to

963
00:58:02,670 --> 00:58:04,020
our sources. If Did you?

964
00:58:04,590 --> 00:58:08,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's very
Yeah, I heard that. Usually

965
00:58:08,070 --> 00:58:11,670
catch him better than I do. But
that was odd. To his Why is he

966
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:12,630
laughing? Well, I

967
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:14,280
Adam Curry: don't know if he's
laughing. But it's more like.

968
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,970
Unknown: Campaign. Yeah, in
Georgia. This is a very

969
00:58:17,970 --> 00:58:19,380
important point. He is laughing.

970
00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:22,890
John C Dvorak: That is laughing.
This is very, he knows is not

971
00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:25,590
important. He's making this up.
He's a liar.

972
00:58:25,620 --> 00:58:27,960
Unknown: Yeah. And George, this
is a very important point.

973
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,680
According to our sources.
Scavino was asked directly our

974
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,310
sources.

975
00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:36,720
Adam Curry: I mean, this is not
journalism. It's just not it's

976
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,450
who is yourself. I mean, you
could even say a source in the

977
00:58:39,450 --> 00:58:42,210
White House assorted to give me
the the our

978
00:58:42,210 --> 00:58:46,530
John C Dvorak: sources is
gossip, whether the TMZ saw

979
00:58:46,590 --> 00:58:49,500
Unknown: any evidence that there
was vote fraud, and enough to

980
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,390
overturn the results in any
state.

981
00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:53,580
Adam Curry: He Wait a moment,
let me go back here, according

982
00:58:53,610 --> 00:58:56,130
let me see what he's actually
saying. In

983
00:58:56,130 --> 00:58:58,410
Unknown: Georgia, this is a very
important point. According to

984
00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:03,060
our sources, Scavino was asked
directly, whether or not he saw

985
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,030
any evidence that there was
voter fraud and enough to

986
00:59:06,090 --> 00:59:10,170
overturn the results in any
state. He said, No, variations

987
00:59:10,170 --> 00:59:13,890
of that exact question have been
asked by virtually everybody who

988
00:59:13,890 --> 00:59:18,060
served Donald Trump at the White
House. And under oath, they have

989
00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:21,990
said over over a grid again,
that none of them saw any

990
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:24,630
evidence that the election was
stolen. They may have said

991
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:28,230
different things publicly, but
under oath, they deny any

992
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:31,020
knowledge that the election had
significant fraud.

993
00:59:31,050 --> 00:59:34,170
Adam Curry: This is fantastic.
Um, so you take some knowledge,

994
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,280
unrelated people who are under
oath and said no, no, no. And

995
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,450
then they tie that to Scavino,
which is something sources say,

996
00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:45,960
I mean, it may very well be
true, but let me come on. This

997
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,390
is not journalism, Jonathan
Karl.

998
00:59:48,990 --> 00:59:51,000
John C Dvorak: So the other
thing is, why are they still

999
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,980
fussing about this? Even Hillary
after the 2016 election and

1000
00:59:55,980 --> 01:00:00,450
everybody was denying Trump made
the you know, one It was the

1001
01:00:00,450 --> 01:00:04,080
same thing. And he they were in
the Trump denialism and he was

1002
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,900
not the legitimate president.
And he's not my president, blah,

1003
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:12,300
blah, blah, blah, blah. After
two years of that FTA in within

1004
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:17,340
two years that that ended, this
is never ending. What why? What

1005
01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:22,170
is the reason for them? Is this.
Too much of Jackie knows what is

1006
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,840
the old phrase where your object
too much?

1007
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:34,230
Adam Curry: complaining too much
off protest too much. The lady

1008
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:38,310
doth protest too much. I think
that's what it is. Well, I think

1009
01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:42,780
it's coming down to a showdown.
Then I have the clips that will

1010
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:46,290
possibly show us that this is
true. We have the current

1011
01:00:46,290 --> 01:00:49,080
speaker of the house versus the
former Speaker of the House,

1012
01:00:49,170 --> 01:00:51,840
it's going to come down to who
do you trust the most?

1013
01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:54,870
Unknown: Of course, you have the
trials that could take place

1014
01:00:55,290 --> 01:00:57,870
with Jack Smith's investigation.
You also the Supreme Court

1015
01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:01,140
taking up this challenge to
President Trump on the 14th

1016
01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:04,110
amendment. Do you believe that
Donald Trump engaged in

1017
01:01:04,110 --> 01:01:04,920
insurrection?

1018
01:01:05,610 --> 01:01:09,720
Yes, I think that he engaged in
insurrection, I think that he

1019
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:14,400
incited an insurrection. And
again, that he would not stop.

1020
01:01:14,850 --> 01:01:18,930
What was going on as his own
people said this is your legacy

1021
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,890
smoke coming from the Capitol?
Is your legacy? Yes, I do

1022
01:01:22,890 --> 01:01:23,370
believe

1023
01:01:23,370 --> 01:01:26,310
Adam Curry: that who said that
you believe who said that? This

1024
01:01:26,310 --> 01:01:28,620
is your legacy was that sources
who said that?

1025
01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:32,460
John C Dvorak: Never heard it. I
never heard all I remember which

1026
01:01:32,490 --> 01:01:35,100
they don't want to bring up
especially with Nancy Pelosi

1027
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:38,490
there. They don't want to bring
up the fact that Trump requested

1028
01:01:38,490 --> 01:01:41,820
National Guard troops at the
Capitol just to prevent such a

1029
01:01:41,820 --> 01:01:45,240
thing from happening. And she
refused to bring them in, like

1030
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,030
him that's never brought up as
some sort of thing that maybe

1031
01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:49,140
defends him and

1032
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:51,930
Adam Curry: that her daughter
was there with her documentary

1033
01:01:51,930 --> 01:01:56,640
camera crew to document this.
Another element that Pelosi is

1034
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,820
the smoking gun here because she
was she was she's part of the

1035
01:01:59,820 --> 01:02:00,900
plot. And

1036
01:02:00,930 --> 01:02:04,560
Unknown: again, that he would
not stop. What was going on as

1037
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,730
his own people said this is your
legacy. smoke coming from the

1038
01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:13,470
Capitol is your legacy. Yes, I
do believe that. It is a most

1039
01:02:13,470 --> 01:02:18,270
unfortunate situation. Our
founders knew that we could have

1040
01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:22,290
a rogue president. They didn't
realize that at the same time,

1041
01:02:22,290 --> 01:02:25,830
we could have a rogue Senate and
Congress I do this think that

1042
01:02:25,830 --> 01:02:30,060
whatever all this happened, poop
on the floor of the Congress

1043
01:02:30,060 --> 01:02:33,660
defecation blood. poop on the
floor

1044
01:02:33,690 --> 01:02:35,790
John C Dvorak: was like San
Francisco.

1045
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,830
Adam Curry: She should be used
to it poop

1046
01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:43,500
Unknown: on the floor of the
Congress defecation blood.

1047
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,270
disrespect for the people who
maintain the capital coming

1048
01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:51,120
after pence coming after me and
the rest. That

1049
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,700
Adam Curry: pence coming after
me in the rest. Wow, this is

1050
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:55,260
getting good. Nance. great

1051
01:02:55,260 --> 01:02:58,470
Unknown: majority of the
Republicans in the House voted

1052
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:01,260
not to accept. So Madam Speaker.

1053
01:03:02,250 --> 01:03:05,790
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is
good, because she's floundering

1054
01:03:05,790 --> 01:03:09,960
a little bit here at the end. We
have a second clip. And I have a

1055
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,510
feeling that she she's not sure
that the case is, is is as tight

1056
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:20,550
as people would would like to
believe it is that he clearly

1057
01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:23,760
participated and incited an
insurrection as a Madam

1058
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,340
Unknown: Speaker. If you believe
if you believe he engaged in

1059
01:03:26,340 --> 01:03:28,800
insurrection under the plain
meaning of the 14th Amendment,

1060
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,030
you believe he's ineligible to
be president. Those

1061
01:03:33,090 --> 01:03:36,510
laws are up to the states. They
have different laws from state

1062
01:03:36,510 --> 01:03:39,120
to state. I don't think he
should ever have the

1063
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,050
Constitution.

1064
01:03:40,530 --> 01:03:41,310
Adam Curry: Do you say
something?

1065
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,540
John C Dvorak: I yeah, I said
no, that is shouldn't be up to

1066
01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:49,350
the states. And if it's up to
the states. I hope that K parser

1067
01:03:49,350 --> 01:03:51,870
right in the Supreme Court says
well, it's up to the states and

1068
01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:55,950
let the states do it. That means
that Biden will be taken off the

1069
01:03:55,950 --> 01:04:02,730
Florida ballot. That was yeah,
I'm just saying DeSantis already

1070
01:04:02,730 --> 01:04:06,420
said if that if this is the
case, we can take Biden off the

1071
01:04:06,510 --> 01:04:10,500
Florida ballot because he's been
is he's derelict of duty for

1072
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:13,320
stopping the hordes coming in
from Mexico.

1073
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,130
Adam Curry: I think she's she's
waffling here she's waffling

1074
01:04:17,130 --> 01:04:21,690
she's stuttering she's not
certain of the case here. She

1075
01:04:21,690 --> 01:04:24,030
has this is not not airtight

1076
01:04:24,540 --> 01:04:27,630
Unknown: those law they're up to
the states they have different

1077
01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:31,020
laws from state to state. I
don't think he should ever as

1078
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:34,170
the Constitution but nonetheless
that

1079
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,310
Adam Curry: those who sniffed
there was that net I

1080
01:04:41,310 --> 01:04:43,770
Unknown: don't think he should
ever as the Constitution but

1081
01:04:43,770 --> 01:04:45,720
nonetheless that

1082
01:04:48,420 --> 01:04:52,380
Adam Curry: I needed to I needed
to George step back. Hold on a

1083
01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:54,180
second. I'll be good and the
second bra.

1084
01:04:54,420 --> 01:04:57,120
Unknown: I don't think he should
ever have been constitution but

1085
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,070
nonetheless. But

1086
01:04:59,610 --> 01:05:01,830
Adam Curry: wow. See without
that talk like that, for that

1087
01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:03,210
seek to

1088
01:05:03,210 --> 01:05:06,540
Unknown: state. I don't think he
should ever as the Constitution,

1089
01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:07,530
but nonetheless

1090
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:13,169
Adam Curry: I just got a hit of
some remnants.

1091
01:05:13,350 --> 01:05:16,830
Unknown: There is a view of the
Constitution in Article 14,

1092
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:20,700
section three, that he should
not be able to run for

1093
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:23,130
president. But that's not the
point the point now

1094
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,160
Adam Curry: that's not the
point. Ah, okay. What's the

1095
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,180
point is

1096
01:05:27,660 --> 01:05:30,000
Unknown: that again, different
states have different laws we

1097
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,380
don't think in California that
it, it applied in our state.

1098
01:05:34,380 --> 01:05:37,350
That's what the decision was
made here. But anyway, not to go

1099
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:39,870
into that, because that's very
intricate.

1100
01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:42,600
Adam Curry: Not to go into that
interesting. Yeah, you're right.

1101
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,300
She does not want that to
happen. But she sounds She

1102
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:46,680
sounds worried about like, it's

1103
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:47,820
Unknown: very clear.

1104
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:51,810
John C Dvorak: So hold on a
second stop. She said that's not

1105
01:05:51,810 --> 01:05:54,720
the point is she was gonna say
the point. Does she say the

1106
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,080
point you missed the point as
you move to California talking

1107
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,080
about California? But that's not
the point. If that's not the

1108
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,640
point, what's the point, let's

1109
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:03,720
Adam Curry: figure it out, are
able

1110
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,940
Unknown: to run for president.
But that's not the point. The

1111
01:06:05,940 --> 01:06:10,500
point now is, again, different
states have different laws. We

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01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:14,880
don't think in California, that
it, it applied. In our state,

1113
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,850
that's what the decision was
made here. But anyway, not to go

1114
01:06:17,850 --> 01:06:22,170
into that, because that's very
intricate. What is very clear,

1115
01:06:22,650 --> 01:06:27,060
is that the American people want
us to honor our oath to protect

1116
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:31,470
and defend the Constitution of
the United States. I, you know,

1117
01:06:31,470 --> 01:06:34,830
being from Baltimore, I'm proud
of the national anthem. And in

1118
01:06:34,830 --> 01:06:38,370
it, it says both through the
night that our flag was still

1119
01:06:38,370 --> 01:06:42,120
there, we have to prove through
this campaign and the night that

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01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:46,290
our flag is still there, with
liberty and justice for all, and

1121
01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:50,250
not have an acceptance of
Confederate flags under Lincoln

1122
01:06:50,250 --> 01:06:53,700
stone, with a President sitting
in the White House doing nothing

1123
01:06:53,940 --> 01:06:58,500
to stop the violence to stop the
violence. He talks about the big

1124
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:01,590
steel. As he again gauges in the
big lie. This

1125
01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:04,950
Adam Curry: is my point. She has
nothing she has no point. All

1126
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:07,920
she says is well, mistakes is
not the point the States is not

1127
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,190
the point. Well, let's go to the
current speaker of the house.

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01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:16,710
Mike Johnson. By the way, crazy
guy believes in God he has a sky

1129
01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:19,470
daddy, gotta be careful with
this guy. No separation of

1130
01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:23,160
church and state who he's very
Wookiee scary. So we'll bring in

1131
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,160
Margaret Brennan from CBS to
grill him.

1132
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:29,790
Unknown: 2021 You were the
lawmaker who circulated the The

1133
01:07:29,790 --> 01:07:33,390
Legal Brief known as the Texas
amicus brief, challenging the

1134
01:07:33,420 --> 01:07:37,140
2020 election outcome in a
number of states, which by CBS

1135
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,200
editorial standards makes you an
election denier. Who is

1136
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,680
Adam Curry: an election denied
by CBS standards. Go away.

1137
01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:51,600
John C Dvorak: See me by CBS,
she says by CBS editorial

1138
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:58,260
standards, yes. Yes. Hold on.
Election denier? Yes. So in

1139
01:07:58,260 --> 01:08:02,010
other words, doing what's legal
and proper and going through the

1140
01:08:02,010 --> 01:08:07,830
process of of putting together
this this brief? By going

1141
01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:11,190
through that process by their
editorial standards? Yes, they

1142
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:15,030
have standards. That's your
election denier. Because you did

1143
01:08:15,030 --> 01:08:15,750
the work

1144
01:08:16,859 --> 01:08:21,719
Adam Curry: is great. Who runs
this country, CBS News, we have

1145
01:08:21,719 --> 01:08:22,709
the standards,

1146
01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:26,190
Unknown: challenging the 2020
election outcome and the number

1147
01:08:26,190 --> 01:08:29,970
of states, which by CBS
editorial standards makes you an

1148
01:08:29,970 --> 01:08:34,110
election denier? Well, can I get
you on the record on that? I've

1149
01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:36,840
always been consistent on the
record. Did you read the brief?

1150
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,130
Did you get a chance to read
what we found?

1151
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:43,499
I have read extensively some
criticisms of that, but read

1152
01:08:43,499 --> 01:08:45,509
commentary about the brief, but
not what we submitted to the

1153
01:08:45,509 --> 01:08:48,719
court. Do you recognize that
President Biden won the 2020

1154
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:50,849
election? Can you just put that
was

1155
01:08:50,850 --> 01:08:52,860
certified as the winner of the
election, he took the oath of

1156
01:08:52,860 --> 01:08:55,830
office. He's been the president
for three years. What the

1157
01:08:55,830 --> 01:08:58,440
argument that we presented to
the court, which is our only

1158
01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:01,680
avenue to do so was that the
Constitution was clearly

1159
01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:05,730
violated in the 2020 election.
It's article two, section one,

1160
01:09:05,730 --> 01:09:08,760
and anyone can Google it and
read it for themselves. The

1161
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,330
system by which you choose
electors to elect the president,

1162
01:09:12,330 --> 01:09:16,200
the United States must be done
by the individual states and the

1163
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,200
system must be ratified the
state legislatures, that is

1164
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,810
language plain language still
have

1165
01:09:21,809 --> 01:09:26,519
issues which the validity of the
2020 election constitution

1166
01:09:26,519 --> 01:09:30,539
was violated in the run up to
the 2020 election, not always in

1167
01:09:30,539 --> 01:09:34,139
bad faith, but in the aftermath
of COVID. Many states change

1168
01:09:34,139 --> 01:09:36,749
their election laws in ways that
violated that plain language.

1169
01:09:36,749 --> 01:09:41,009
That's just a fact. We presented
that argument and that that

1170
01:09:41,549 --> 01:09:45,509
those facts to the court, and it
was never directly addressed

1171
01:09:45,509 --> 01:09:49,679
because the Texas litigation but
that was the only vehicle we had

1172
01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:52,679
to present that issue squarely
to the court. So she has not

1173
01:09:52,679 --> 01:09:56,609
Adam Curry: read the brief. And
of course he's right. We this

1174
01:09:56,609 --> 01:09:59,969
was discussed ad nauseam about
the changes that were made.

1175
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,749
Yeah, but that doesn't matter
because you know, Liz Cheney,

1176
01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:05,700
Unknown: your colleague, Liz
Cheney, your former colleague,

1177
01:10:06,210 --> 01:10:08,310
Mike Johnson, and our Republican
leaders have played a

1178
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:12,960
destructive role. You she says
convinced 125 other Republican

1179
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,930
members of Congress to sign on
to an amicus brief that many

1180
01:10:15,930 --> 01:10:18,330
never read, that made new just

1181
01:10:18,330 --> 01:10:20,280
Adam Curry: like you didn't,
just like you didn't read

1182
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:21,390
John C Dvorak: it, like she
didn't read it.

1183
01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:28,050
Unknown: Many, many never read
that made numerous false factual

1184
01:10:28,050 --> 01:10:32,610
and constitutional claims. How
do you respond to that? And the

1185
01:10:32,610 --> 01:10:33,690
impression that he

1186
01:10:33,690 --> 01:10:36,540
Adam Curry: should respond,
Margaret, you ignorant slut,

1187
01:10:36,570 --> 01:10:39,720
that would have been funny, but
no man of God won't do that,

1188
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:42,270
Unknown: that you might have
contributed in some way. I

1189
01:10:42,270 --> 01:10:45,240
don't spend much time responding
to Liz Cheney's criticism these

1190
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,740
days, Liz Cheney worked with the
Democrats on the Jan six January

1191
01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:54,870
6, select committee to make all
of this even more politicized,

1192
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:59,460
and it was she was a close
friend and colleague before she

1193
01:10:59,460 --> 01:11:04,050
said those choices. Yes, I was
surprised. She's well, I'm

1194
01:11:04,050 --> 01:11:06,540
surprised that she's given that
criticism because during that

1195
01:11:06,540 --> 01:11:09,690
process, Liz and I were in
constant dialogue about that.

1196
01:11:09,690 --> 01:11:12,510
And at one point, she even
considered signing on to that

1197
01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:16,350
bill. I'll tell you that that is
a fact. That to that amicus

1198
01:11:16,350 --> 01:11:19,650
brief, and we talked about that
a great length and we had a

1199
01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:22,590
difference of opinion on the
law, and people can agree to

1200
01:11:22,590 --> 01:11:24,960
disagree on that. But I'm
telling you that the plain

1201
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,450
language of the Constitution has
never changed. No left

1202
01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:30,270
Adam Curry: toe, left toe. Why
is Mike Johnson laughing here?

1203
01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:34,020
Because the Constitution hasn't
changed. It's ridiculous

1204
01:11:34,050 --> 01:11:35,880
Unknown: about that at great
length. And we had a difference

1205
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,270
of opinion on the law and people
can agree to disagree on that.

1206
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:41,250
But I'm telling you that the
plain language of the

1207
01:11:41,250 --> 01:11:43,920
Constitution has never changed.
What do you think that's about?

1208
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:48,540
Adam Curry: Why is he Oh, God.
He'll, what's he all laughed

1209
01:11:48,540 --> 01:11:49,200
Telly about?

1210
01:11:49,410 --> 01:11:49,980
Unknown: And what?

1211
01:11:50,610 --> 01:11:52,380
John C Dvorak: That would i I'm
baffled by?

1212
01:11:52,770 --> 01:11:55,590
Adam Curry: Well, I think he's
because the Constitution hasn't

1213
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:58,560
changed. Um, so how about this?
I'm so certain of what I'm

1214
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,800
doing, you morons. The
Constitution hasn't changed,

1215
01:12:01,860 --> 01:12:04,710
Unknown: and people can agree to
disagree on that. But I'm

1216
01:12:04,710 --> 01:12:06,780
telling you that the plain
language of the Constitution has

1217
01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:10,230
never changed. And what happened
in many states by changing the

1218
01:12:10,230 --> 01:12:12,210
election laws without
ratification by the state

1219
01:12:12,210 --> 01:12:15,180
legislatures is a violation of
the Constitution. That's a

1220
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,670
that's a plain fact that no one
can dispute. Okay,

1221
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:21,330
Adam Curry: we'll wrap it up.
With rapid How

1222
01:12:21,330 --> 01:12:25,470
Unknown: do you make sense of
the idea that you still have

1223
01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:29,100
issues with the validity of the
2020 election, but you have to

1224
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:33,030
negotiate and talk with the
President of the United States,

1225
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:33,570
Joe Biden,

1226
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,910
this is water under the bridge.
I mean, when when the Supreme

1227
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:39,960
Court passed on the Texas
litigation, it did not address

1228
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,750
the issue. I believe in the rule
of law. This is our system, we

1229
01:12:42,750 --> 01:12:46,110
move forward. And I work with
President Biden as the president

1230
01:12:46,110 --> 01:12:48,630
united states, I think that he
will be a one term president.

1231
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,770
But you know, this discussion
about what happened in 2020? Is

1232
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,120
is yesterday's news.

1233
01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:57,450
Adam Curry: There's something
there that we don't understand.

1234
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:02,190
But But Mike Johnson does, the
Supreme Court passing on that

1235
01:13:02,190 --> 01:13:06,150
somehow has something to do with
this. Maybe maybe our

1236
01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:09,900
constitutional lawyer can
explain. But Bill, regardless,

1237
01:13:09,930 --> 01:13:14,580
we need to sigh up the American
people, at least people who

1238
01:13:14,580 --> 01:13:21,960
watch MSNBC and explain how an
alternate slate of basically how

1239
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:27,060
the electoral system works.
Because Nancy Pelosi was

1240
01:13:27,060 --> 01:13:30,960
partially right. He said, You
know, our constitution was set

1241
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,470
up to deal with a rogue
president, it was really set up

1242
01:13:34,860 --> 01:13:38,670
to make sure that no nut jobs
become president. That's what

1243
01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:41,670
the electoral college is about
the confusion in the United

1244
01:13:41,670 --> 01:13:47,280
States. Is that you vote for the
president, you don't. In fact,

1245
01:13:47,490 --> 01:13:51,390
the states, most states, I think
you'll have to correct me John

1246
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:58,980
can send a whole bunch of other
people to Washington DC, for a

1247
01:13:58,980 --> 01:14:02,040
whole different candidate. It's
not even up to the voters. Am I

1248
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:02,550
correct?

1249
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:05,400
John C Dvorak: I think it's
technically possible. I don't

1250
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:10,290
know that mechanism anymore.
Doesn't happen. So it's kind of

1251
01:14:10,590 --> 01:14:15,420
it hasn't happened for I think,
maybe to happen in the I think

1252
01:14:15,420 --> 01:14:16,620
this is what 1800s

1253
01:14:16,650 --> 01:14:19,350
Adam Curry: This is what was
happening states were sending

1254
01:14:19,770 --> 01:14:23,880
alternate slate of electors in
the mainstream media known as

1255
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:25,110
fake electors.

1256
01:14:26,580 --> 01:14:28,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
right, they would use the

1257
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,480
Adam Curry: term fake. So Roger
Stone does understand this

1258
01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:37,980
process going speaking of Nixon,
and Ari Melber, pulls it all

1259
01:14:37,980 --> 01:14:38,490
apart.

1260
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,310
Unknown: One Trump ally, who's
actually flown under the radar,

1261
01:14:41,550 --> 01:14:44,580
even in the coup case that I
just mentioned, is being brought

1262
01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:48,870
by Smith. And yet he's a very
famous figure Roger Stone. You

1263
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:52,920
may recall he was flanked by
Oathkeepers. On January 6, he's

1264
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,780
sitting right there outside a DC
hotel that we reported on stone,

1265
01:14:58,170 --> 01:15:02,400
discussing and coordinating I
applaud to try to get states and

1266
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,660
electors to overthrow the
results that had Trump losing

1267
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,510
and stone discussed this idea
about Trump trying to just push

1268
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:12,210
forward alternate electors that
could type of government fraud

1269
01:15:12,210 --> 01:15:15,150
that then could sow chaos that
could somehow help them steal

1270
01:15:15,150 --> 01:15:18,120
the race on the sixth. You may
remember some of this has now

1271
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,030
been further documented, some of
it happened. Here's what we have

1272
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:21,540
on tape.

1273
01:15:21,780 --> 01:15:27,360
Any legislative body may decide
on the basis of overwhelming

1274
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,020
evidence of fraud, to send
electors to the Electoral

1275
01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:35,280
College, who accurately reflect
and reflect the President's

1276
01:15:35,310 --> 01:15:39,990
legitimate victory in their
state, which was illegally

1277
01:15:40,020 --> 01:15:42,120
denied him through fraud.

1278
01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:47,190
Now, that is what he was saying
separately, and over time, we

1279
01:15:47,190 --> 01:15:51,060
know that electors who pushed
actual fraud have now been

1280
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:56,760
indicted, or civilly sued in
several states. Stone denies

1281
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,030
wrongdoing. He says that states
could legally exercise the kind

1282
01:16:00,030 --> 01:16:02,430
of authority he discussed there.
And amidst these reports, we

1283
01:16:02,430 --> 01:16:05,550
want to make sure you know that
he previously posted online that

1284
01:16:05,550 --> 01:16:10,290
he never plotted the seeding of
fake electors. I've interviewed

1285
01:16:10,290 --> 01:16:12,540
him before and we've asked him
to come back on the beat if he

1286
01:16:12,540 --> 01:16:15,690
wants to discuss the story, but
that is his public response to

1287
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:16,290
some of this.

1288
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,040
Adam Curry: Yeah, he never fake
electors alternatives. Alternate

1289
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:25,050
slate. Yeah, fake electors. No,
right. Right. Right, right.

1290
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,400
Right. Right, right. Yep, yep,
yep.

1291
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:31,170
John C Dvorak: But he but the
Melber Alberto's?

1292
01:16:32,220 --> 01:16:35,190
Adam Curry: He's a lawyer, by
the way, know, the rap Hip Hop

1293
01:16:35,190 --> 01:16:40,440
lyric quoting a lawyer. Yes.
He's so cool. In the words, in

1294
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:41,190
the words of

1295
01:16:41,190 --> 01:16:44,760
John C Dvorak: PGAS, you're just
twisting there. It's called

1296
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,590
alternate is twisted. Yeah,

1297
01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:49,110
Adam Curry: they're called
alternates. It's, and so I think

1298
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:52,560
this fits in with Mike Johnson
saying, you know, the

1299
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:57,960
Constitution was violated.
Trump's and alternate slate, and

1300
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,190
they have now been indicted or
civilly sued have been okay. And

1301
01:17:02,190 --> 01:17:07,050
so no one's in jail. No one's
been. No one's been been

1302
01:17:07,050 --> 01:17:10,830
convicted of anything of any
wrongdoing. Certainly not to

1303
01:17:10,830 --> 01:17:14,850
being an alternate slate. I
don't know that the world is

1304
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:15,690
ultimately coming.

1305
01:17:15,780 --> 01:17:18,480
John C Dvorak: I think
something's up. Yes. It is just

1306
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:19,620
too much discussion.

1307
01:17:19,650 --> 01:17:22,650
Adam Curry: Yeah. Nancy Pelosi
is is not sounding confident.

1308
01:17:23,490 --> 01:17:26,340
And Mike Johnson sounds overly
confident.

1309
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,730
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's cocky.
Yes,

1310
01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:31,890
Adam Curry: he is. Yes, he is.

1311
01:17:33,090 --> 01:17:35,160
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
we've seen this kind of TV show

1312
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,920
reminds me of what's the guy
that's doing that one committee

1313
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,970
who keeps coming on things and
he's so overconfidence.

1314
01:17:41,970 --> 01:17:46,170
ludicrous. He hasn't done
anything really one. What's one

1315
01:17:46,170 --> 01:17:50,250
guy's name? He's kind of got the
round kind of a cube head cube.

1316
01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:51,990
Mini cube head.

1317
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,820
Adam Curry: What topic does he

1318
01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:57,210
John C Dvorak: do? He's running
one of the investigative

1319
01:17:57,210 --> 01:18:01,350
committees of the house. House
investigation of something of

1320
01:18:01,530 --> 01:18:04,980
Biden. the Biden family.

1321
01:18:05,850 --> 01:18:07,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, the comer
comer.

1322
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,680
John C Dvorak: Comer. Yeah, I
got. Yeah. Good. Cube ahead,

1323
01:18:10,740 --> 01:18:17,220
Adam Curry: cube. Comer. Boy,
we're not shallow.

1324
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:19,860
John C Dvorak: No, we're not.

1325
01:18:20,250 --> 01:18:22,440
Adam Curry: We're not
superficial. Well, speaking of

1326
01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:25,050
appearances. Let's go to Nimrod.

1327
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,330
Unknown: Haley's campaign
recently sidetracked with a

1328
01:18:27,330 --> 01:18:30,120
voter asked about the cause of
the Civil War, and she did not

1329
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,750
mention slavery and answer it.
She later clarified. What do you

1330
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:36,150
say to people who say that

1331
01:18:36,150 --> 01:18:37,530
you really had challenges when
it

1332
01:18:37,530 --> 01:18:39,840
comes to talking about race. We

1333
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:45,690
were the only Indian family in
our small southern town. I was

1334
01:18:45,690 --> 01:18:51,570
teased every day for being
brown. So anyone that wants to

1335
01:18:51,570 --> 01:18:55,950
question it can go back and look
at what I've said on how hard it

1336
01:18:55,950 --> 01:18:59,940
was to grow up in the deep south
as a brown girl. The civil wars

1337
01:18:59,970 --> 01:19:03,930
always been known about slavery.
I misread it and thought he was

1338
01:19:03,930 --> 01:19:06,570
looking for a bigger answer
going forward. You

1339
01:19:06,570 --> 01:19:12,300
Adam Curry: got duped Nimrod
duped Brown Girl in the ring.

1340
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:18,660
Viva la noche you got duped? She
got duped over done. She was in

1341
01:19:18,660 --> 01:19:19,110
money by

1342
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:21,600
John C Dvorak: silica some
Silicon Valley boys I know

1343
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,170
personally. Yeah, that are
largely responsible for this.

1344
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:26,070
Adam Curry: What do you mean?

1345
01:19:28,050 --> 01:19:30,840
John C Dvorak: They talk about
her she is the element she is

1346
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,890
the pushed forward by the
billionaire class across the

1347
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:37,710
country and Silicon Valley is
part of it. Oh, I see what you

1348
01:19:37,710 --> 01:19:42,420
mean. They don't get invited to
some events. Like as if

1349
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:45,690
Adam Curry: I got invited to a
to a event with with Nimrod as

1350
01:19:45,690 --> 01:19:46,770
well here in Texas.

1351
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what's
Texas is is ranch at the ranch.

1352
01:19:52,650 --> 01:19:55,170
Adam Curry: went over to the
ranch and one of the billionaire

1353
01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:00,270
oil guys. Sure. I should have
gone just to just decipher Well

1354
01:20:00,270 --> 01:20:03,780
if at all out and it'd be a
little weird. I wouldn't feel

1355
01:20:03,780 --> 01:20:10,950
comfortable Yeah, sure. Send
Tina. Go sniff out Haley. See

1356
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:13,380
what's going on with her. is no
good.

1357
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:18,600
John C Dvorak: Just kept was
this little topical change of

1358
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,260
pace hear

1359
01:20:20,490 --> 01:20:24,900
Adam Curry: you about Lloyd
Austin? Yes. No one No one did.

1360
01:20:25,380 --> 01:20:25,680
Well, they

1361
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,200
John C Dvorak: still don't.
Here's Lloyd Austin is down

1362
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,480
clip. Okay, here we go.

1363
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,690
Unknown: Defense Secretary Lloyd
Austin has been in Walter Reed

1364
01:20:33,690 --> 01:20:36,810
Medical Center since Monday but
the Pentagon didn't disclose it

1365
01:20:36,810 --> 01:20:40,770
until last night. And there are
reports that he spent four days

1366
01:20:40,770 --> 01:20:43,950
in the intensive care unit.
Austin spokesman Major General

1367
01:20:43,950 --> 01:20:47,010
Pat writer said he was admitted
for complications from an

1368
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,730
unspecified minor medical
procedure. Today writer said

1369
01:20:50,730 --> 01:20:53,730
Austin resumed his full duties
last night while still in the

1370
01:20:53,730 --> 01:20:57,840
hospital, but couldn't say when
Austin would be released. It

1371
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:58,290
this doesn't

1372
01:20:58,290 --> 01:21:00,480
Adam Curry: seem like a big
deal, but it is a big deal.

1373
01:21:00,870 --> 01:21:05,640
Deal. evacs fully boosted but
this guy calls shots and speak

1374
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,540
enough but he calls the shots on
he doesn't have to talk to the

1375
01:21:09,540 --> 01:21:13,680
President about all the things
that he's doing in the two wars

1376
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:18,600
that were involved in. And even
when he went in the deputy

1377
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:23,130
Terry, the deputy head the
deputy secretary, if you write

1378
01:21:23,130 --> 01:21:25,590
that down to

1379
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:29,040
John C Dvorak: the nature of our
show people,

1380
01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:32,070
Adam Curry: that's how we do it.
The Deputy Secretary of Defense

1381
01:21:33,210 --> 01:21:37,050
she was on leave. So he should
never have it's like, you know,

1382
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,210
if the President is going to
have anesthesia, then

1383
01:21:39,210 --> 01:21:43,230
temporarily the Vice President
has has the has the helm.

1384
01:21:43,740 --> 01:21:46,680
There's a whole process for
that. And the same for the for

1385
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,150
the for the defense secretary.
This was a this was a gaffe the

1386
01:21:51,150 --> 01:21:55,710
something was very wrong with
this. He may be dead already. Is

1387
01:21:55,710 --> 01:22:00,210
what some people think. Others
think he's been incarcerated. I

1388
01:22:00,210 --> 01:22:04,080
love that. I love that one.
That's Q anon he's been

1389
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,820
incarcerated. I love I love the
car.

1390
01:22:05,820 --> 01:22:07,920
John C Dvorak: I heard that the
minor operation was he had his

1391
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:08,760
balls removed.

1392
01:22:11,070 --> 01:22:15,870
Adam Curry: Thanks, Marty. I
have have a couple more more

1393
01:22:15,870 --> 01:22:16,860
details on this.

1394
01:22:17,070 --> 01:22:20,310
Unknown: There are questions
tonight on why top levels of the

1395
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:23,760
federal government were not
immediately told US Defense

1396
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,090
Secretary Lloyd Austin was
hospitalized following

1397
01:22:27,090 --> 01:22:31,800
complications from an elective
procedure. The 70 year old has

1398
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,880
been at Walter Reed Medical
Center since January 1, A source

1399
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,210
tells the Wall Street Journal
often needed to be admitted to

1400
01:22:39,210 --> 01:22:42,960
the intensive care unit. Among
those who did not know until

1401
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,440
three days later, the President
and the national security

1402
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:49,650
adviser Jake Sullivan, Well,
tonight Austin released a

1403
01:22:49,650 --> 01:22:52,620
statement saying he could have
done a better job informing

1404
01:22:52,620 --> 01:22:56,610
people and he takes full
responsibility. President Biden

1405
01:22:56,610 --> 01:23:00,180
says he has full confidence in
the defense secretary.

1406
01:23:00,210 --> 01:23:04,140
Adam Curry: So this is
interesting. So in this report,

1407
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:09,570
they say Floyd Austin said Ah, I
didn't do that. Right. It means

1408
01:23:09,570 --> 01:23:12,030
so is he in the intensive care
or not? Listen again.

1409
01:23:12,060 --> 01:23:14,820
Unknown: Well, tonight Austin
released a statement saying he

1410
01:23:14,820 --> 01:23:17,070
could have done a better job
informing people.

1411
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:21,210
Adam Curry: So Is he awake? Is
he okay? Can he come to the

1412
01:23:21,210 --> 01:23:25,200
balcony and wave if Austin
released a statement or was it

1413
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,490
the Pentagon tonight

1414
01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:29,760
Unknown: a US official confirms
to NBC News that the Pentagon

1415
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,970
did not inform senior officials
in the White House's National

1416
01:23:32,970 --> 01:23:37,080
Security Council for three days
that defense secretary Lloyd

1417
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:41,040
Austin had been hospitalized at
Walter Reed Medical Center on

1418
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,510
New Year's Day. Walter

1419
01:23:42,510 --> 01:23:44,550
Adam Curry: Reed I mean, I'm
telling you, the incarcerated

1420
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:46,380
bit is good. The news not

1421
01:23:46,380 --> 01:23:48,930
Unknown: shared with the
American public until Friday,

1422
01:23:49,140 --> 01:23:51,960
when the Pentagon announced that
Austin was hospitalized for

1423
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:56,130
complications following a recent
elective medical procedure. And

1424
01:23:56,130 --> 01:23:59,490
NBC News has learned the 70 year
old Austin not just

1425
01:23:59,490 --> 01:24:03,210
hospitalized, but also in the
intensive care unit for at least

1426
01:24:03,210 --> 01:24:06,690
four days. According to two
senior administration officials

1427
01:24:06,990 --> 01:24:10,050
asked why his day wasn't
disclosed sooner. A Pentagon

1428
01:24:10,050 --> 01:24:14,190
spokesperson tells NBC News This
has been an evolving situation

1429
01:24:14,190 --> 01:24:17,280
in which we had to consider a
number of factors. Oh, adding

1430
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,610
Secretary Austin is recovering
well and he resumed his full

1431
01:24:20,610 --> 01:24:23,490
duties at the Pentagon declining
to explain

1432
01:24:23,550 --> 01:24:25,770
Adam Curry: this is different
now they're saying he's back on

1433
01:24:25,770 --> 01:24:28,920
the beat. But why isn't he out
on the balcony waving hers.

1434
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:31,830
Unknown: Adding Secretary Austin
is recovering well, and he

1435
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:35,640
resumed his full duties at the
Pentagon declining to explain

1436
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,990
what Austin's procedure was and
what complications occurred. The

1437
01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:42,660
lack of information strongly
criticized

1438
01:24:42,690 --> 01:24:45,630
presidents have issues that
other cabinet members have

1439
01:24:45,630 --> 01:24:48,420
issues the public is notified
and there's no real

1440
01:24:48,690 --> 01:24:50,700
justification is not acceptable.

1441
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:55,050
America's commitment to Israel
is unwavering. The secretary in

1442
01:24:55,050 --> 01:24:59,460
Israel as recently as mid
December, as its war with Hamas

1443
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:02,760
resist Tension in the middle
east. On Thursday, the US

1444
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,970
carried out a strike that killed
an Iran backed militia member in

1445
01:25:05,970 --> 01:25:09,240
Iraq while Austin was
hospitalized. And

1446
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,820
Ally is in Delaware tonight
traveling with the president, a

1447
01:25:11,820 --> 01:25:14,820
US official ally, just moments
ago tells me the President Biden

1448
01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:19,110
was not informed about Austin's
hospitalization for three days,

1449
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:22,740
either. And you're hearing from
the Secretary himself tonight in

1450
01:25:22,740 --> 01:25:24,690
his statement, what's he saying?
That's right, Peter, the

1451
01:25:24,690 --> 01:25:28,020
Defense Secretary taking full
responsibility for what he says

1452
01:25:28,020 --> 01:25:31,470
were his decisions about
disclosure, saying in part

1453
01:25:31,470 --> 01:25:34,620
quote, I recognized I could have
done a better job ensuring the

1454
01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:37,950
public was appropriately
informed. I commit to doing

1455
01:25:37,950 --> 01:25:38,400
better.

1456
01:25:39,900 --> 01:25:45,840
Adam Curry: So this stinks. It
does sounds very Oh, yeah. You

1457
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:51,000
need we need him waving me who's
running the war machine? Maybe

1458
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,010
the war machine just like hey,
man, well, I

1459
01:25:53,010 --> 01:25:55,650
John C Dvorak: think the war
machine can you file How about

1460
01:25:55,650 --> 01:25:56,040
this? How

1461
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,770
Adam Curry: about the military
industrial complex, like, went

1462
01:25:58,770 --> 01:26:01,950
to the hospital of Meo put a
little machete a little knife to

1463
01:26:01,950 --> 01:26:04,680
the throat and said, Hey, man,
you're not doing it. Right. We

1464
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,950
need more orders. We just needed
to sell some gear.

1465
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,000
John C Dvorak: Maybe that's why
he didn't tell anyone because he

1466
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,840
didn't want that debt situation
to occur. That's when he was

1467
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,490
afraid. Oh, oh,

1468
01:26:20,490 --> 01:26:26,040
Adam Curry: that's even better.
Huh? Huh?

1469
01:26:26,430 --> 01:26:31,440
John C Dvorak: Don't have them
show any weakness. So tell Biden

1470
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:35,580
whenever you do not rush, that's
the way I would go. Don't tell

1471
01:26:35,580 --> 01:26:39,690
Biden whatever you do. You might
poop his pants. Oh, I'm out now.

1472
01:26:39,690 --> 01:26:43,410
I'm fine. Don't I'm sorry. She's
We didn't tell Biden us ashamed.

1473
01:26:43,410 --> 01:26:43,590
All

1474
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:48,600
Adam Curry: good. It's all good.
Okay, since since that clip

1475
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:57,450
brought up Israel. I think we
have. Yes. This was an

1476
01:26:57,450 --> 01:27:03,510
interesting development. The
Israeli Defense Minister went on

1477
01:27:03,510 --> 01:27:08,430
a PR Blitz, and what you're not
seeing in this is all beauty

1478
01:27:08,430 --> 01:27:11,880
shots of him looking really this
that guy? He does look kind of

1479
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,630
badass. He's gotta look. Yeah,
got that looked at the he's got

1480
01:27:15,630 --> 01:27:19,440
the shades on with a helmet.
We're at least I know. He's got

1481
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:23,850
he's got Prime Minister written.
Exactly. That's what this.

1482
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,870
That's what this clip is about?
Because he outlines a new phase

1483
01:27:27,870 --> 01:27:31,770
of the Gaza war to the press
before he presents it to the

1484
01:27:31,770 --> 01:27:32,460
cabinet.

1485
01:27:32,970 --> 01:27:35,190
Unknown: Yeah, well, yesterday
evening, Israel's defense

1486
01:27:35,190 --> 01:27:37,950
minister, you have got on so
unveils his plans for the

1487
01:27:37,950 --> 01:27:42,330
postwar running of Gaza first to
the press. Then he submitted it

1488
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:47,010
to Israel's war cabinet. Now
under his plans, the war would

1489
01:27:47,010 --> 01:27:52,020
continue until all hostages have
been released. And until Hamas

1490
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:58,260
has been completely eradicated,
the plan then sets out how,

1491
01:27:58,470 --> 01:28:01,980
after the end of the war
Palestinian organization, so

1492
01:28:01,980 --> 01:28:05,340
that would take over the running
of the Gaza Strip. It does not,

1493
01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:09,060
however, specify which
organizations those would be It

1494
01:28:09,060 --> 01:28:12,030
does, however, say that under no
circumstances would that be

1495
01:28:12,570 --> 01:28:16,890
Hamas. It also says that there
will be no Israeli civilian

1496
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,760
presence in the Gaza Strip after
the war. It does, however, say

1497
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,360
that the Israeli military would
continue to be able to carry out

1498
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:29,310
operations in the Gaza Strip if
necessary, to maintain security.

1499
01:28:29,310 --> 01:28:31,920
And now I think also worth
pointing out that at this stage,

1500
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,700
this is not official Israeli
government policy. It is just a

1501
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:39,150
proposal that's been put forward
by the defense minister that

1502
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:42,930
would have to be approved by the
war cabinet for it to become

1503
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:46,650
policy. Yeah. And another big
question mark that the planet

1504
01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:50,220
doesn't appear to tackle is
whether or not Palestinian

1505
01:28:50,220 --> 01:28:54,870
civilians who fled northern
parts of the Gaza Strip to flee

1506
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:57,750
the fighting and whether or not
they would be able to return to

1507
01:28:57,750 --> 01:29:01,170
their homes, bearing in mind
that much of the Northern Gaza

1508
01:29:01,170 --> 01:29:04,680
strip has been completely
flattened by months of intense

1509
01:29:04,710 --> 01:29:06,570
fighting and bombardment. I

1510
01:29:06,570 --> 01:29:09,060
Adam Curry: mean, just imagine
Lloyd Austin starts laying out

1511
01:29:09,060 --> 01:29:12,630
policy to the press about what
we're going to do in a war any

1512
01:29:12,630 --> 01:29:18,480
war before the President that
Netanyahu is on loose and hear

1513
01:29:18,660 --> 01:29:20,340
something something's going on.

1514
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:24,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree.
$100, completely,

1515
01:29:24,570 --> 01:29:29,070
Adam Curry: including this,
which we discussed one or two

1516
01:29:29,070 --> 01:29:30,330
shows ago, after

1517
01:29:30,330 --> 01:29:32,940
Unknown: more than 12 weeks of
war in Gaza. A fundamental

1518
01:29:32,940 --> 01:29:36,270
question remains what is to
become of the strip and its

1519
01:29:36,270 --> 01:29:40,830
people. Now Israeli media
reports allege a government of

1520
01:29:40,830 --> 01:29:43,980
Benjamin Netanyahu has held
secret talks with the Democratic

1521
01:29:43,980 --> 01:29:48,930
Republic of Congo for a quote,
voluntary resettlement plan. The

1522
01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:52,140
Times of Israel, which published
the report says a senior Israeli

1523
01:29:52,140 --> 01:29:54,810
official has denied that any
such discussions have taken

1524
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:57,750
place, but Israeli cabinet
members have repeatedly raised

1525
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:58,260
the idea

1526
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,480
A quick, like call on the Prime
Minister and the new foreign

1527
01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:06,630
minister. This is an opportunity
for planning and immigration

1528
01:30:06,630 --> 01:30:10,020
project and to encourage the
migration of residents from Gaza

1529
01:30:10,110 --> 01:30:11,370
to countries of the world.

1530
01:30:11,970 --> 01:30:14,430
Adam Curry: So they got all
kinds of guys out there saying

1531
01:30:14,430 --> 01:30:20,040
stuff without the president. His
whole cabinet is doing press

1532
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:21,270
press briefings.

1533
01:30:22,230 --> 01:30:24,690
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this
like kind of like Federal

1534
01:30:24,690 --> 01:30:28,590
Reserve. When they start. Every
board member started yakking

1535
01:30:28,590 --> 01:30:30,150
away about US economy.

1536
01:30:30,990 --> 01:30:34,230
Adam Curry: Now, it's a little
worse. This is his cabinet is

1537
01:30:34,230 --> 01:30:37,110
just doing a you know, we got to
do this. We got to get something

1538
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:42,360
going and we'll send him to the
Congo. I love this Congo idea.

1539
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,480
By the way. Yeah, Congo was
great for batteries and all

1540
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:49,050
kinds of stuff, and it's easy to
spark some crap over there.

1541
01:30:50,340 --> 01:30:59,280
Meanwhile, Somalia, Somalia. You
recall that Ethiopia, a new

1542
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,550
BRICS country, said, Well, you
know what, we're going to open

1543
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:06,000
up a base right under Djibouti.
That's our that's our turf

1544
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:11,370
Djibouti, right there by the
where the where the Houthis are

1545
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:16,260
causing trouble by the opening
of the Red Sea to the Gulf of

1546
01:31:16,290 --> 01:31:19,260
Aden. And they said we're just
going to open this bass in

1547
01:31:19,260 --> 01:31:23,730
Somaliland, which is not an
official country, but they've

1548
01:31:23,730 --> 01:31:28,350
organized and pretend it is and
Somalia. Well, they got a call

1549
01:31:28,350 --> 01:31:29,670
from Victoria Nuland. On

1550
01:31:29,670 --> 01:31:32,820
Unknown: Saturday, Somali
President Hassan Sheikh Mohammed

1551
01:31:32,910 --> 01:31:36,570
signed the law nullifying the
Memorandum of Understanding

1552
01:31:36,570 --> 01:31:40,020
signed between the government of
Ethiopia and Somaliland. The

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01:31:40,020 --> 01:31:43,440
symbolic move comes as Ethiopia,
the breakaway Somali Region

1554
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:47,430
signed a deal on January 1. As
part of the hull economic and

1555
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:51,630
political agreement, Somaliland
plans to lease a 20 kilometer

1556
01:31:51,630 --> 01:31:54,750
stretch of land along its
coastline to landlocked

1557
01:31:54,810 --> 01:31:59,160
Ethiopia. Somaliland President
Morsi B. Abdi said the deal

1558
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,580
included her statement that
Ethiopia would soon recognize

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01:32:02,580 --> 01:32:06,360
the territory as an independent
country. That is where the bone

1560
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:10,380
of contention lies. Somaliland
is a self declared Republic. It

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01:32:10,380 --> 01:32:13,740
has taken issue for years with
the process and the legally

1562
01:32:13,740 --> 01:32:17,070
binding character of the State
of Union law, which was to form

1563
01:32:17,130 --> 01:32:20,940
a unified country after Somalia
and Somaliland respectively

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01:32:20,940 --> 01:32:24,960
gained independence from Italy
and Britain, the EU chairperson,

1565
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:29,580
if you're planning to engage
without delay in negotiations to

1566
01:32:29,580 --> 01:32:31,080
settle their differences, I'm

1567
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,270
Adam Curry: sorry, it's Africa
today, but you can't get any

1568
01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:36,120
other reporting about this
stuff. Even

1569
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,090
John C Dvorak: Africa could they
could find it spokes, they

1570
01:32:39,090 --> 01:32:40,290
modeled a better

1571
01:32:40,290 --> 01:32:43,590
Adam Curry: job. They have
better ones. This like the

1572
01:32:43,590 --> 01:32:50,220
weekend team or something? Hey,
you get in here. I know it's

1573
01:32:50,220 --> 01:32:51,960
horrible. But

1574
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,680
John C Dvorak: I let's just
summarize it for us. Okay.

1575
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,400
Adam Curry: So, Somaliland
claims independence and they are

1576
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,900
the Republic of Somaliland. They
are in the the eastern tip, just

1577
01:33:03,900 --> 01:33:09,570
the tip of Somalia. And they've
done a deal apparently, with

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01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,660
with the BRICs. And they said,
Well, you know what, we're just

1579
01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:15,750
going to work with Ethiopia,
recent BRICS member and we're

1580
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:18,180
going to just create a base
because you know, Ethiopia is

1581
01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:21,150
landlocked, Ethiopia doesn't
need a doesn't need a port not

1582
01:33:21,150 --> 01:33:24,960
talking about ports of base, a
military base. So I'm going to

1583
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:29,250
presume China or somebody else
would have a president said this

1584
01:33:29,250 --> 01:33:34,350
cannot this will not stand under
Djibouti. Which is right above

1585
01:33:34,350 --> 01:33:35,520
it is

1586
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,880
John C Dvorak: too close. Yes.
Right next door can't have that.

1587
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:43,170
No, there was a shoot down to
the drones as they take off. I

1588
01:33:43,170 --> 01:33:45,690
had a with a pistol. I

1589
01:33:45,690 --> 01:33:50,100
Adam Curry: have one more. I
think this is the clip here. I'm

1590
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:54,000
not sure. There was a great nap
pop. Let me see. Is this the net

1591
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:59,490
pop clip? Yes, blink and blink.
So Blinken is back in the

1592
01:33:59,490 --> 01:34:04,440
region. He's in the region. Cuz
he's got it. You know. She's

1593
01:34:04,440 --> 01:34:09,450
looking my president. is brain
dead. I've got my my defense

1594
01:34:09,450 --> 01:34:14,880
minister is in the hospital.
He's being bald. I gotta do the.

1595
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:16,170
John C Dvorak: The boss,

1596
01:34:16,290 --> 01:34:18,930
Unknown: US Secretary of State
Antony Blinken says he wants to

1597
01:34:18,930 --> 01:34:22,740
make sure the conflict in Gaza
doesn't spread. This morning he

1598
01:34:22,740 --> 01:34:25,890
traveled to Jordan as part of a
week long diplomatic tour aimed

1599
01:34:25,890 --> 01:34:29,700
at calming tensions. Blinken
says he's particularly concerned

1600
01:34:29,700 --> 01:34:32,880
about exchanges of fire on
Israel's northern border with

1601
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:33,540
Lebanon.

1602
01:34:34,710 --> 01:34:38,640
US Secretary of State Antony
Blinken week long whistlestop

1603
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,760
tour is aimed at calming
tensions to to spike.

1604
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:46,650
Adam Curry: Their love they call
it a whistle stop tour is kind

1605
01:34:46,650 --> 01:34:48,450
of weird. US

1606
01:34:48,450 --> 01:34:51,210
Unknown: Secretary of State
Antony Blinken week long

1607
01:34:51,210 --> 01:34:55,020
whistlestop tour is aimed at
calming tensions to to spike

1608
01:34:55,290 --> 01:34:59,430
Israel's war with her massive
again, this is not just work a

1609
01:34:59,430 --> 01:35:03,420
data problem to see if there is
genuine concern the conflict is

1610
01:35:03,420 --> 01:35:04,860
already escalating.

1611
01:35:06,299 --> 01:35:09,179
We have an intense focus on
preventing this conflict from

1612
01:35:09,179 --> 01:35:12,629
spreading far too many
Palestinians have been killed

1613
01:35:13,379 --> 01:35:14,309
especially children.

1614
01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:18,630
Adam Curry: This is interesting
language to many pout far too

1615
01:35:18,630 --> 01:35:22,110
many Palestinians have been
killed. We figured it would be

1616
01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:29,820
1000 That would be okay. It's
not weird. Far too many, far too

1617
01:35:29,820 --> 01:35:33,390
many. Well, how many was okay?
Was there it was their level

1618
01:35:33,390 --> 01:35:36,150
that was that was agreed to like
well, you can kill a couple of

1619
01:35:36,150 --> 01:35:36,360
them.

1620
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:39,090
Unknown: We have an intense
focus on preventing this

1621
01:35:39,090 --> 01:35:42,840
conflict from spreading. Far too
many Palestinians have been

1622
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:49,680
killed, especially children. Far
too many remain incredibly

1623
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,180
challenged in terms of their

1624
01:35:51,180 --> 01:35:55,020
Adam Curry: access to food. This
far too many is bad language for

1625
01:35:55,020 --> 01:35:55,440
water,

1626
01:35:55,980 --> 01:35:59,010
Unknown: to medicine to the
essentials of life as the wheels

1627
01:35:59,010 --> 01:36:00,270
of diplomacy territories,

1628
01:36:01,470 --> 01:36:04,680
Adam Curry: the essentials life
water, food, and then a big tank

1629
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,510
explosion right after it's the
food

1630
01:36:06,990 --> 01:36:10,770
Unknown: for water, and medicine
to the essentials of life. As

1631
01:36:10,770 --> 01:36:15,360
the wheels of diplomacy turn in
Gaza, there's been no letup in

1632
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,650
the past three months. Israeli
strikes claim more lives. food

1633
01:36:19,650 --> 01:36:23,520
and medicine are increasingly
scarce. And entire neighborhoods

1634
01:36:23,580 --> 01:36:28,020
are reduced to rubble. Rubble,
the UN's humanitarian chief said

1635
01:36:28,050 --> 01:36:33,360
Gaza has, quote, simply become
uninhabitable. But Israel says

1636
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,610
that it is making progress. Yes,

1637
01:36:35,610 --> 01:36:39,420
Adam Curry: progress. But far
too many. We had agreed only

1638
01:36:39,450 --> 01:36:43,350
1500 dead, particularly
children. And they just went

1639
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:46,140
above and beyond. Can't believe
them. No good.

1640
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,640
John C Dvorak: Somebody's trying
to make the thing spread

1641
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:55,290
somewhere. I believe it's the
Russians. Take the pressure off

1642
01:36:55,290 --> 01:36:59,760
the Ukraine situation. They got
to resolve that. So they had the

1643
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,870
launch 200 missiles from
Hezbollah, supposedly these

1644
01:37:03,870 --> 01:37:06,660
numbers are all dubious, but
they suppose the last launch 200

1645
01:37:06,660 --> 01:37:10,890
missiles what what's the point?
They had to be told to do this.

1646
01:37:10,890 --> 01:37:13,470
They don't want to do it. And
Lebanon doesn't like the idea,

1647
01:37:13,470 --> 01:37:14,730
but they're doing it anyway.

1648
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,850
Adam Curry: Now Lebanon doesn't
want any Lebanon can't use much

1649
01:37:17,850 --> 01:37:21,540
more problem. So then somebody's

1650
01:37:21,540 --> 01:37:23,940
John C Dvorak: trying to
somebody's trying to stoke

1651
01:37:24,030 --> 01:37:26,850
issues, I think I believe it's
the Russians because they're

1652
01:37:26,850 --> 01:37:31,830
trying to get people out who
would make sense. I mean, we

1653
01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:34,860
can't the Russians are sick of
this stupid Ukraine war and they

1654
01:37:34,860 --> 01:37:36,720
want to get that resolved, you
know, sick

1655
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:42,240
Adam Curry: of the Ukraine war,
the Ukrainians. Oh, they left no

1656
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:47,040
men to fight. And it's cold now.
It's very cold. It's no longer

1657
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:50,880
the fighting season. So they're
just doing drones. And the

1658
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,790
drones have a flaw. I mean,
these are pre programmed drones,

1659
01:37:53,790 --> 01:37:57,000
a lot of them so they fly a set
route and that the guys just sit

1660
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:01,080
there and wait. Okay. Done. It
goes another one. Yep. Done.

1661
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,510
Here's NPR with the talk of this
expansion up north. 10s

1662
01:38:06,510 --> 01:38:09,420
Unknown: of 1000s of people have
been evacuated from both sides

1663
01:38:09,420 --> 01:38:13,110
of the Israel Lebanon border.
Their air raid sirens blaring

1664
01:38:13,140 --> 01:38:17,010
across northern Israel today.
Lebanon's Hezbollah militia says

1665
01:38:17,010 --> 01:38:20,160
it fired dozens of rockets
across the border this morning.

1666
01:38:20,370 --> 01:38:23,100
And it's calling this just an
initial response to the

1667
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,340
airstrike that killed a Hamas
leader this past week. As you

1668
01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:29,910
mentioned in Lebanon's capital,
Beirut, Israel says it has sent

1669
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:33,990
tanks artillery and airstrikes
across the border into Lebanon

1670
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:37,620
for the past few days. Israel's
defense minister yo have Golan

1671
01:38:37,620 --> 01:38:40,890
inspected troops yesterday at
the Northern Command and then he

1672
01:38:40,890 --> 01:38:46,410
recorded this video clip of me
also OMA to Abu Mahdi fame in

1673
01:38:46,410 --> 01:38:49,920
which he says Israel prefers a
political settlement with

1674
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:51,690
Hezbollah rather than a military
one,

1675
01:38:51,870 --> 01:38:55,830
but that we are quote close to
the point where the hourglass

1676
01:38:55,830 --> 01:38:56,760
will turn

1677
01:38:58,260 --> 01:39:03,840
Adam Curry: Huh Well, the sad
thing is if you ask the Israelis

1678
01:39:03,870 --> 01:39:08,250
or the Palestinians or the
Lebanese no one wants death and

1679
01:39:08,250 --> 01:39:15,000
destruction. This is turf wars
Bev Pro, probably just all money

1680
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:15,660
related.

1681
01:39:18,090 --> 01:39:20,460
John C Dvorak: So we have
another area breaking out with

1682
01:39:20,490 --> 01:39:25,020
issues mostly caused by us What?

1683
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:30,120
Adam Curry: No, say it ain't. So
what is this about now? Serb

1684
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,250
John C Dvorak: elections now
there's all kinds of weirdness

1685
01:39:32,250 --> 01:39:34,290
going on in Serbia. The Balkan

1686
01:39:34,290 --> 01:39:37,260
Unknown: nation of Serbia is a
flashpoint in Europe struggle

1687
01:39:37,260 --> 01:39:41,100
between democracy and autocratic
leaders. Russia's war in Ukraine

1688
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:44,610
heightened Servius importance as
it resists Western pressure to

1689
01:39:44,610 --> 01:39:48,270
join sanctions on Russia. Now
the nation is being torn apart

1690
01:39:48,270 --> 01:39:50,970
by protests accusing the
government of authoritarian

1691
01:39:50,970 --> 01:39:54,780
President Alexander Vukovich,
who's a strong food now I have

1692
01:39:54,780 --> 01:39:58,710
widespread voter fraud in last
month's elections. Ali Rogen has

1693
01:39:58,710 --> 01:39:59,160
more

1694
01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:07,890
In Central Belgrade chants of
Bucha You are a thief. More than

1695
01:40:07,890 --> 01:40:14,100
two weeks after what protesters
say was a stolen election. Lou

1696
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:16,440
Cheech declared a sweeping
mandate for his Serbian

1697
01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:19,530
Progressive Party following wins
in parliamentary and local

1698
01:40:19,530 --> 01:40:23,100
elections that he called ahead
of schedule, but international

1699
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:26,700
observers say Bucha his ruling
party dominates Serbian media

1700
01:40:26,700 --> 01:40:29,700
coverage and intimidates
independent journalists giving

1701
01:40:29,700 --> 01:40:33,120
him an unfair advantage. On
election day, there were reports

1702
01:40:33,150 --> 01:40:36,570
of violence, ballot stuffing and
allegations of people getting

1703
01:40:36,570 --> 01:40:42,000
bused into different cities to
vote. Since the protesters have

1704
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,330
a mass in Belgrade, demanding
the results being old, they've

1705
01:40:45,330 --> 01:40:48,330
paused for Orthodox Serbian
holidays but will likely resume

1706
01:40:48,330 --> 01:40:49,320
in mid January.

1707
01:40:52,140 --> 01:40:54,660
People are on the street
dissatisfied with the election,

1708
01:40:55,110 --> 01:40:58,110
which is obvious everyone
confirmed that there has been a

1709
01:40:58,110 --> 01:41:01,020
serious disruption of the
electoral process. And that is

1710
01:41:01,020 --> 01:41:03,150
why the elections have to be
repeated.

1711
01:41:05,550 --> 01:41:08,550
Opposition Coalition leader
Marika Teppich has been on a

1712
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:10,950
hunger strike since the
election. She addressed the

1713
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:14,070
crowds on December 30, just
before she was hospitalized.

1714
01:41:16,860 --> 01:41:21,060
I'm sorry that I can't say much.
The only thing I can say is that

1715
01:41:21,060 --> 01:41:24,540
I have already said everything
and that these elections must be

1716
01:41:24,540 --> 01:41:25,110
annulled.

1717
01:41:25,740 --> 01:41:27,840
Adam Curry: Well, why couldn't
what was what was she

1718
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,040
hospitalized? What happened?

1719
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,950
John C Dvorak: She's on a hunger
strike as she's about to drop

1720
01:41:31,950 --> 01:41:33,600
dead from lack of eating.

1721
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:36,540
Adam Curry: Well, so does you
think this has to do with Serbia

1722
01:41:36,540 --> 01:41:37,650
as Trump should

1723
01:41:37,650 --> 01:41:39,990
John C Dvorak: have gone on a
hunger strike? You

1724
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:44,100
Adam Curry: would still be on
it. Do you think that this has

1725
01:41:44,130 --> 01:41:47,100
anything to do with Serbia being
right under right next to

1726
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:47,850
Hungary?

1727
01:41:49,410 --> 01:41:51,150
John C Dvorak: Yes, something to
do with it. They tried to

1728
01:41:51,150 --> 01:41:54,660
explain it. They never do a
fully a full job. The Serbian

1729
01:41:54,660 --> 01:41:58,080
guy who won by the way is just a
casper milquetoast character.

1730
01:41:58,530 --> 01:42:03,900
And he's just trying to I don't
know whether he won or not, or

1731
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:08,700
how fraudulent the election was.
But it's just they run this

1732
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:11,880
story, I believe on PBS to kind
of give us some parallels to

1733
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:15,720
what Trump might try to do. Like
Trump, because this guy likes

1734
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,380
Putin. And you know, because
everyone has to hate Putin, or

1735
01:42:19,380 --> 01:42:23,250
he's no good. And we were part
of what's going on here. This

1736
01:42:23,250 --> 01:42:26,520
this. These clips are
interesting as it gets on with

1737
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,000
when they start discussing it
with our people. Here's Luke

1738
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:30,870
part to teach

1739
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:34,710
Adam Curry: us. Let me rewind
that. Blue teach

1740
01:42:34,710 --> 01:42:37,260
Unknown: has defended the
results. He and Russia say the

1741
01:42:37,260 --> 01:42:39,540
protests were being controlled
by the West,

1742
01:42:39,630 --> 01:42:43,170
me quote, some of the voting was
very political. We want to steer

1743
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,920
our own college. If you don't
mind paying the price for all

1744
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:51,030
the rubbish and lies, because we
know what the cost is, the

1745
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:55,470
election process will be
concluded by the institutions of

1746
01:42:55,470 --> 01:42:58,500
the Republic of Serbia. For more

1747
01:42:58,500 --> 01:43:01,140
on the implications of these
election results, I'm joined by

1748
01:43:01,140 --> 01:43:04,680
Edward P. Joseph. He teaches at
Johns Hopkins School of Advanced

1749
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,590
International Studies, and
served for a dozen years in the

1750
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:10,770
Balkans, including with the US
Army, he has observed and

1751
01:43:10,770 --> 01:43:14,820
organized numerous elections in
the region. Edward, thank you so

1752
01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:16,770
much for being here. First of
all, can you tell us a little

1753
01:43:16,770 --> 01:43:20,250
bit about what sort of leader
Alexandre Bucha, which has been

1754
01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:24,300
both internally within Serbia,
and with regard to other

1755
01:43:24,330 --> 01:43:24,930
countries,

1756
01:43:25,260 --> 01:43:29,580
President Bucha, which is the
classic autocratic leader, he's

1757
01:43:29,580 --> 01:43:33,990
attempting to establish thorough
control of Serbia, with a veneer

1758
01:43:34,020 --> 01:43:36,960
of democracy. And that's what we
see in these recent elections.

1759
01:43:36,990 --> 01:43:40,710
This is what is known as
illiberal democracy. His

1760
01:43:40,710 --> 01:43:44,880
neighbor and his mentor and
patron within the EU, of course

1761
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,100
is Prime Minister Viktor Orban
of Hungary.

1762
01:43:48,990 --> 01:43:53,730
Adam Curry: Okay, I told you, I
had gotten to do with that. So

1763
01:43:53,730 --> 01:43:56,190
John C Dvorak: this guy, this
guy that they're talking to is a

1764
01:43:56,190 --> 01:43:59,730
PhD from Johns Hopkins and he
Oregon that what is an American

1765
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,990
organizing route elections in
these areas, but what is that?

1766
01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:06,030
Well, how about explain that to
me, okay. I

1767
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:08,880
Adam Curry: will explain it to
you. I will explain it from this

1768
01:44:08,910 --> 01:44:14,760
article, one election system
vendor in Serbia, guess which

1769
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:15,150
one?

1770
01:44:17,610 --> 01:44:19,860
John C Dvorak: Dominions Yes,
yes.

1771
01:44:20,910 --> 01:44:24,390
Adam Curry: They even have a
software development office in

1772
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:32,910
Belgrade. There you go. Just a
little point, little point.

1773
01:44:34,740 --> 01:44:38,190
John C Dvorak: So they and then
Audubon, of course, who's still

1774
01:44:38,190 --> 01:44:45,600
seen as the fly in the globalist
ointment is the bad guy for some

1775
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:50,280
reason. And she's not on board
with any of the bullcrap he's

1776
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,880
not in this guy's like, I guess
one of his protegees and this is

1777
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,030
an issue with us. Us
particularly is going to look

1778
01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:59,970
Unknown: three and Orban set the
model for this where there's a

1779
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,970
The nearer of democracy where
you hold elections, but the

1780
01:45:02,970 --> 01:45:06,180
elections are actually
meaningless because the ruling

1781
01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:11,070
controls has such dominance over
the media landscape, the

1782
01:45:11,070 --> 01:45:15,330
opposition is weakened. The
media are hugely dominated by

1783
01:45:15,330 --> 01:45:20,010
the ruling party. And in the
polis activists are intimidated

1784
01:45:20,010 --> 01:45:21,150
and that's what we've seen. And
so

1785
01:45:21,150 --> 01:45:22,350
John C Dvorak: that sounds like
us,

1786
01:45:22,350 --> 01:45:24,150
Adam Curry: yes. Hmm.

1787
01:45:25,230 --> 01:45:28,080
John C Dvorak: Was the latest
there's some, I think, was a Pew

1788
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:32,010
or one of these guys did or
Gallup did a research on the

1789
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:37,770
media at political affiliation
and something like 95% of

1790
01:45:37,770 --> 01:45:43,110
everyone who's in the media
today is a Democrat. Yeah. That

1791
01:45:43,110 --> 01:45:46,740
sounds like a recipe for
disaster. Where's

1792
01:45:46,740 --> 01:45:50,700
Adam Curry: the 10%? Show me
that? It's not Fox News.

1793
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,870
John C Dvorak: No. Well, yes.
Elections

1794
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:57,660
Adam Curry: Newsmax I'm sorry
Newsmax there it is. But that's

1795
01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:59,070
Cuomo, kids. One

1796
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:01,050
John C Dvorak: One American
news. No, that's it. One

1797
01:46:01,050 --> 01:46:03,570
American news. One American
news. Yeah, that's it. That one

1798
01:46:03,570 --> 01:46:08,970
Oh, word made up girl. Sir, Serb
elections rigged for

1799
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,490
Unknown: and there was nothing
requiring these elections to be

1800
01:46:11,490 --> 01:46:14,400
held at this time. So why did he
call for these elections at this

1801
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:15,330
time? Well,

1802
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:20,190
that's exactly right. These are
again, early elections. And the

1803
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:24,060
best explanation for them is
that President Bush which, as a

1804
01:46:24,060 --> 01:46:27,900
result in large part mistaken US
policy, by the by the

1805
01:46:27,900 --> 01:46:32,610
administration, was in a crisis
in late September, there was a

1806
01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:37,440
shocking confrontation in the
north of Kosovo. This is where

1807
01:46:37,470 --> 01:46:42,330
NATO troops, including US troops
are deployed. And the Kosovo

1808
01:46:42,330 --> 01:46:46,920
Police patrol have been a Serb
militia group heavily armed that

1809
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:50,100
could not have entered into
Kosovo without Serbian

1810
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:54,120
authorities known and of course,
that immediately cast suspicion

1811
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:58,170
on President Bucha himself and
this attack which led

1812
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,170
John C Dvorak: so we can go in
there. Fix the next door

1813
01:47:04,170 --> 01:47:05,550
neighbor can't go in there.

1814
01:47:05,580 --> 01:47:06,960
Adam Curry: How could you mean
Hungary? No,

1815
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,130
John C Dvorak: no, they have no
Serbia. Right is the next door

1816
01:47:11,130 --> 01:47:15,390
neighbor to Kosovo? Oh, yes. So
they can go in we can go were

1817
01:47:15,390 --> 01:47:18,780
there and UN's there but who did
they can go in? Okay. I just

1818
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:19,950
wanted to make sure that
everyone

1819
01:47:19,980 --> 01:47:22,470
Adam Curry: guys there's been
there's been problems in the

1820
01:47:22,470 --> 01:47:26,790
region in the past. So we should
go in, of course, we create the

1821
01:47:26,790 --> 01:47:30,630
problem. We were dicks.

1822
01:47:30,810 --> 01:47:33,750
Unknown: And of course, that
immediately cast suspicion on

1823
01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:38,280
President voltage himself. And
this attack which led to a

1824
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,970
shootout in the north killing
cause a police officer and three

1825
01:47:41,970 --> 01:47:46,050
serves was a huge shock, because
it showed in fact that the US

1826
01:47:46,050 --> 01:47:51,570
policy of trying to supplicate a
placate President voltage and

1827
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:56,970
somehow bring him over from
autocratic pro hungry pro Russia

1828
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:01,590
orientation had failed. It was
that crisis very likely, that

1829
01:48:01,590 --> 01:48:05,100
President Bush wanted to put
behind him reestablish his

1830
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:09,690
authority as as the sole
preeminent political figure in

1831
01:48:09,690 --> 01:48:13,890
Serbia and move forward. But it
turns out that that is not going

1832
01:48:13,890 --> 01:48:15,210
to be quite as simple as he
thought.

1833
01:48:16,170 --> 01:48:20,430
Adam Curry: Right? So it's it's
strategic for the region. And we

1834
01:48:20,430 --> 01:48:24,990
want to make it into someone who
dances to our pipes. Exactly.

1835
01:48:24,990 --> 01:48:29,730
John C Dvorak: Of course. orb is
enough of a pain in the ass. We

1836
01:48:29,730 --> 01:48:31,170
don't need this joker.

1837
01:48:31,230 --> 01:48:33,690
Adam Curry: Where did these guys
get the time to think about all

1838
01:48:33,690 --> 01:48:34,410
this? Where

1839
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,740
John C Dvorak: do idea Where's
Hopkins is part of the problem.

1840
01:48:37,740 --> 01:48:37,980
Where's

1841
01:48:37,980 --> 01:48:40,770
Adam Curry: Victoria Nuland? Let
me see Victoria.

1842
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:42,990
John C Dvorak: She's probably
been there, Victoria. Let's say

1843
01:48:42,990 --> 01:48:44,730
you're looking her up play the
last clip.

1844
01:48:44,820 --> 01:48:47,790
Unknown: So let's talk a little
bit more about US policy towards

1845
01:48:47,790 --> 01:48:49,680
Serbia and the different
priorities that the United

1846
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,770
States is balancing. How have
they approached Alexandra

1847
01:48:52,770 --> 01:48:56,340
fruitage. What do you make of
their response to this crisis?

1848
01:48:56,370 --> 01:49:00,690
I would say this about US
policy, which has got again,

1849
01:49:01,020 --> 01:49:04,560
brought us to the this brink.
President Biden has gotten the

1850
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,980
Balkans right. Consistently,
President Biden himself

1851
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,760
understands the region and he
set off his administration with

1852
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,880
the words that we are in a
challenge of democracy versus

1853
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,330
autocracy. So President Biden
has gotten it right. But as the

1854
01:49:18,330 --> 01:49:20,910
administration has gotten to
completely wrong, they've

1855
01:49:20,910 --> 01:49:24,900
abandoned that. So we have a
disparity in the Balkans where

1856
01:49:24,900 --> 01:49:30,420
the United States treats Serbia
as neighbors to a much harsher,

1857
01:49:30,420 --> 01:49:34,260
higher standard. And I should
point out we've had two violent

1858
01:49:34,260 --> 01:49:38,520
confrontations in Kosovo this
year, we've had potential issues

1859
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,790
in Montenegro, which is a NATO
ally. And now within the

1860
01:49:41,790 --> 01:49:44,760
government, there are pro
Russian elements within that

1861
01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:49,740
NATO ally, and we have a brewing
crisis, possibly even beginning

1862
01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:53,280
this month in Bosnia
Herzegovina. This is the mistake

1863
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:57,150
of the Biden administration has
been to treat President voltage

1864
01:49:57,150 --> 01:50:02,130
to this different softer
standard On the belief that

1865
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:06,840
somehow we can bring him over
instead, what it has done is it

1866
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:11,580
has projected fear the US
basically projecting fear of

1867
01:50:11,580 --> 01:50:15,780
Belgrade, which President voted
correctly interprets as weakness

1868
01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:19,380
and takes advantage. And this
all goes, of course, to the

1869
01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:21,960
benefit of his ally, which is
Russia.

1870
01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:29,310
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, we had
clips of problems brewing in

1871
01:50:29,310 --> 01:50:34,380
Serbia, I think. Didn't they?
Wasn't there something like

1872
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:42,960
something with their money? If I
recall, well, what is this? Let

1873
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,730
John C Dvorak: me see. I don't
remember the money thing, but I

1874
01:50:44,730 --> 01:50:49,650
do know that. This situation is
I find it interesting that he

1875
01:50:49,650 --> 01:50:52,230
says that Biden's got it right.
But the administration has got

1876
01:50:52,230 --> 01:50:55,710
it wrong. Which says to me
again, like everyone else says

1877
01:50:55,710 --> 01:50:58,050
Biden's not running anything
though. No.

1878
01:50:59,730 --> 01:51:04,320
Adam Curry: This is well, the
coverage was good, but we don't

1879
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,910
understand it. There's

1880
01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:08,280
John C Dvorak: no There's no we
have no we must Well, no, but at

1881
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,870
least we're but familiarising
are

1882
01:51:09,870 --> 01:51:12,240
Adam Curry: there Serbs in the
audience come on Serbs talk to

1883
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:12,870
us Serbs.

1884
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,280
John C Dvorak: This serves hate
our show.

1885
01:51:15,090 --> 01:51:19,290
Adam Curry: How about this? Even
though we break up the show a

1886
01:51:19,290 --> 01:51:21,570
little bit differently. Very
short donation segment today.

1887
01:51:26,730 --> 01:51:33,930
It has no resources. No entry.
That's right. Second half a show

1888
01:51:33,930 --> 01:51:39,420
is back. Finally. That's right,
everybody. Second half a show

1889
01:51:39,420 --> 01:51:42,390
what's going on out there in the
universe. And

1890
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:46,620
Unknown: now to our number one
trending story on CBS miami.com

1891
01:51:47,130 --> 01:51:52,230
It involves talk of alien
sightings at Bayside marketplace

1892
01:51:52,260 --> 01:51:55,260
on New Year's day there was a
massive police response in

1893
01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:59,100
downtown Miami. More than 50
Young people armed with sticks

1894
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:03,060
began fighting. We say juveniles
were also setting off fireworks

1895
01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:04,380
causing chaos.

1896
01:52:04,620 --> 01:52:08,730
So now people are posting online
saying that police weren't there

1897
01:52:08,730 --> 01:52:12,870
to handle a group of rowdy teens
but rather eight to 10 feet

1898
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:18,060
tall, shadowy aliens conspiracy
theories are saying a big

1899
01:52:18,060 --> 01:52:22,020
creature could be seen standing
in front of the entrance to the

1900
01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:27,300
shopping area Bayside today, the
phrases Miami mall and aliens of

1901
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:31,710
Miami have been among the top 10
searches on Twitter's trending

1902
01:52:31,710 --> 01:52:35,640
tab. Twitter of course now
called x. And Google News even

1903
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:39,270
has several reports questioning
the events. So

1904
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:42,120
we reached out to the Miami
Police Department they issued a

1905
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:46,320
statement saying in part quote,
there were no aliens UFOs or

1906
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:51,600
ETS. No airports were closed, no
power outages. facepalm emoji

1907
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,610
was included in the statement.
Yeah,

1908
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,490
Adam Curry: obviously a cover
up, cover up by the Miami

1909
01:52:56,700 --> 01:53:00,690
obvious cover up by the Miami
Police. Because there's no way

1910
01:53:00,690 --> 01:53:04,140
you would have this. I mean,
there were hundreds of police

1911
01:53:04,140 --> 01:53:07,620
vehicles that at least for
helicopters hovering overhead.

1912
01:53:07,860 --> 01:53:11,160
It was obvious. This was not
just some kids fighting at the

1913
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:15,870
mall. These were eight to 10
feet, aliens with fire sticks.

1914
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:20,670
And we have eyewitness reports
all over tick tock. Hey, by the

1915
01:53:20,670 --> 01:53:23,940
way, whatever happened to
getting rid of tick tock? Where

1916
01:53:23,940 --> 01:53:28,830
did that go? What Why did that
stop? I thought tick tock was

1917
01:53:28,830 --> 01:53:33,720
dangerous to democracy. Serious
question Trump would

1918
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,610
John C Dvorak: have gotten rid
of it but no, no, that's just

1919
01:53:35,610 --> 01:53:38,460
benefiting the Democrat party.
Oh,

1920
01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:43,290
Adam Curry: so the lobby is
worked out that I guess. Yeah,

1921
01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:43,560
there's

1922
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:47,100
John C Dvorak: a cash some cash
changed hands perhaps. Well,

1923
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:49,200
Adam Curry: we need to be
talking to people about this

1924
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:53,160
because it was everyone was all
in we had hearings. Tick tock is

1925
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:57,390
bad. China's killing our
children, Scott Adams. He's

1926
01:53:57,420 --> 01:54:02,070
convinced tick tock is going to
ruin America. But yet it's still

1927
01:54:02,070 --> 01:54:07,260
here. And this is where we find
eyewitnesses to this event. So

1928
01:54:07,410 --> 01:54:07,770
it says

1929
01:54:07,770 --> 01:54:10,560
Unknown: nobody's going to talk
about it. I figured you know

1930
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,280
Adam Curry: there are some
expletives in this that I didn't

1931
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:15,180
have time to cut out

1932
01:54:15,180 --> 01:54:19,470
Unknown: I was I was down in
Miami for the New Year's use and

1933
01:54:19,470 --> 01:54:23,070
me and my girl I got a little
timeshare we was down there on

1934
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:25,440
like a mini vacay you know just

1935
01:54:25,770 --> 01:54:28,260
Adam Curry: I love this guy by
the way. need my girl we had a

1936
01:54:28,260 --> 01:54:30,780
timeshare down in Miami little
vacay or two

1937
01:54:30,780 --> 01:54:33,720
Unknown: years old right so
anyway, we happen to be at that

1938
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:38,190
mall so um we are footlocker
whatever next thing you know you

1939
01:54:38,190 --> 01:54:40,860
start hearing all this commotion
outside sound like fire like

1940
01:54:40,860 --> 01:54:43,680
firecrackers or something? So,
you know, I'm saying I you know,

1941
01:54:43,710 --> 01:54:46,200
I grab a close I'm like, yo, we
bout to get about here because,

1942
01:54:46,740 --> 01:54:49,440
you know, I originally thought
that they were shooting in

1943
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:53,400
Santo, you know, some type of
fight that broke out or whatever

1944
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,530
the case is, because you know,
we're not familiar with Miami.

1945
01:54:55,530 --> 01:54:58,560
We're not familiar with the
city. So I'm like, damn, I

1946
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,180
haven't got my blog. So you I

1947
01:55:00,180 --> 01:55:03,270
Adam Curry: got my black I guess
that's a Glock blakedown We

1948
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:03,540
bought

1949
01:55:04,050 --> 01:55:09,750
Unknown: above a swerve sight
crazy like we just see all these

1950
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:14,700
people running like you know,
fat fat fat chicks you know old

1951
01:55:14,700 --> 01:55:18,360
ladies like while I'm talking
about moving insane like yo

1952
01:55:18,930 --> 01:55:22,050
people even more I'm talking
about moving so you know my

1953
01:55:22,050 --> 01:55:24,750
garage like what's going on like
fuck all that we out like I'm

1954
01:55:24,750 --> 01:55:27,060
not gonna ask no questions we
just gonna follow the crowd.

1955
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,420
Next thing you know, you know
real like gunshots start going

1956
01:55:30,420 --> 01:55:33,330
off so you know I'm saying like
we try to we try to follow that

1957
01:55:33,330 --> 01:55:37,170
follow the crowd get out of
there I look back on the back no

1958
01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:42,420
capital no cat I look back it
looked like like like a big ass

1959
01:55:42,420 --> 01:55:46,680
shadow. But it was solid at the
same time like a few like a few

1960
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:50,760
shadows, but they were solid at
the same time. And it almost

1961
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,220
looked like they was coming our
direction like they was chasing

1962
01:55:53,220 --> 01:55:57,570
us, but they was disappearing
and reappearing closer. So I'm

1963
01:55:57,570 --> 01:56:01,350
like yo, what so we started
really moving and next thing you

1964
01:56:01,350 --> 01:56:03,630
know, we start hearing more
gunshots like these dudes start

1965
01:56:03,630 --> 01:56:07,680
firing that this shit get
outside map police all that, you

1966
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,440
know, I'm saying they started to
police this like trying to get

1967
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,200
all the people that ran out the
mall. They like trying to like

1968
01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:16,950
detain these people, whatever.
But you know, me and my girl we

1969
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:20,040
ended up just, you know, sliding
past all that and everything

1970
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:22,770
like that. But you know a lot of
people saying Why didn't nobody

1971
01:56:22,770 --> 01:56:26,550
film and all that when that type
of shit is going on? Him saying

1972
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:29,970
shit like that? Like some
paranormal? Nobody thinking

1973
01:56:29,970 --> 01:56:30,960
about no phone?

1974
01:56:31,050 --> 01:56:34,470
Adam Curry: No, no, there's a
bunch of Jhansi DeVore acts with

1975
01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:38,460
no phone at all. So they didn't
get any no video.

1976
01:56:39,060 --> 01:56:42,870
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, they
see this is the problem. I don't

1977
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:46,950
care what monster you're gonna
see coming in and out of

1978
01:56:47,070 --> 01:56:51,630
dimensionality. As he describes
it, someone's gonna be pulling

1979
01:56:51,630 --> 01:56:52,590
out their phone.

1980
01:56:53,070 --> 01:56:55,590
Adam Curry: Well, we didn't get
any pictures of any teenagers

1981
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,230
shooting either. So this is very

1982
01:56:58,230 --> 01:57:00,870
John C Dvorak: successful. And
that's the point there.

1983
01:57:00,900 --> 01:57:04,740
Adam Curry: Well, here's here's
what's going on. This is just

1984
01:57:04,740 --> 01:57:05,400
the beginning.

1985
01:57:06,060 --> 01:57:08,040
John C Dvorak: Wait, let me
think. Wait, let me stop you.

1986
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:11,940
Okay, that's a movie coming out.
That has something to do with

1987
01:57:11,940 --> 01:57:15,600
something about this thing. That
would be great movies bowl of

1988
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:16,200
crap. If I

1989
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:18,780
Adam Curry: if I could roll out
a movie trailer that would be

1990
01:57:18,780 --> 01:57:22,830
the best right now? No, this is
project BlueBee. This is this is

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where we start to and of course
you're going to use tick tock as

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01:57:25,650 --> 01:57:29,670
you said it benefits the elites
the Democrat Party. And that's

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01:57:29,670 --> 01:57:33,840
why tick tock has not gone yet.
Now this is where we start to

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01:57:34,710 --> 01:57:37,590
break the Joe Rogan will be all
over this. This is where I start

1995
01:57:37,590 --> 01:57:41,280
to bring in the aliens people
have seen it that clearly. I

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01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:45,900
witness and eventually these
aliens will start talking to us

1997
01:57:45,900 --> 01:57:49,650
and and then we can get rid of
religion and we can all go

1998
01:57:49,650 --> 01:57:53,010
towards the aliens. And we can
follow the new world order that

1999
01:57:53,010 --> 01:57:57,330
is and you'll see more of these
craft in the air that will all

2000
01:57:57,330 --> 01:58:01,380
be projected Project Blue Beam
is has I call Project Blue Beam

2001
01:58:01,380 --> 01:58:04,920
now activated. It's activated
and it's biblical. It's been

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01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:08,850
predicted. That's been predicted
this it's it's all coming now.

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01:58:08,850 --> 01:58:12,780
This is just just the start. So
keep an eye out in blue beam

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01:58:12,780 --> 01:58:16,380
activated. Yes, I will. I will
stay on the beat. Yes,

2005
01:58:16,380 --> 01:58:19,620
John C Dvorak: you this is your
all yours. Thanks. Unless

2006
01:58:19,620 --> 01:58:23,910
there's a local phenomenon takes
place which I will use a regular

2007
01:58:23,910 --> 01:58:26,280
camera to film. Yes,

2008
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:30,270
Adam Curry: you will. You'll go
out right away. Now there was

2009
01:58:30,270 --> 01:58:34,200
another interesting legal case.
By the

2010
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,060
John C Dvorak: way, I do have a
ticket if you don't want to go

2011
01:58:36,060 --> 01:58:40,230
into if you're not following up.
I have a tick tock clip. Tock

2012
01:58:40,260 --> 01:58:47,940
tock tick tock. lunatic, there's
a lunatic. That's this

2013
01:58:47,940 --> 01:58:50,250
threatening everybody should get
should just be arrested

2014
01:58:50,250 --> 01:58:56,310
immediately. But unlike your
clip, yes. I took care of the

2015
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:57,840
profanity issues.

2016
01:58:58,410 --> 01:59:01,800
Adam Curry: I'm glad you did. I
apologize. I'm sorry. I missed

2017
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:03,120
it. I didn't have time to do it.

2018
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:06,150
Unknown: So I do wish death on
transphobic people because they

2019
01:59:06,150 --> 01:59:11,400
wish death on me and have caused
death to many, many, many of my

2020
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:15,060
brothers and sisters in the
trans community. I want to stab

2021
01:59:15,060 --> 01:59:19,560
all of you to death as many
times as I can. I want to stab

2022
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:23,400
you in the throat and twist it
like I'm carving a pumpkin. I

2023
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:27,990
want to shred you into tiny
pieces. I want to tear your

2024
01:59:28,350 --> 01:59:32,160
bones out from your body. I want
to scoop your brains out with a

2025
01:59:32,460 --> 01:59:36,240
spoon. I want to eat your flesh.

2026
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:42,150
Adam Curry: I'd say decaf decaf
may be a good idea for this

2027
01:59:42,150 --> 01:59:42,510
person.

2028
01:59:43,830 --> 01:59:46,650
John C Dvorak: Minimally but I
just want to show you how it's

2029
01:59:46,650 --> 01:59:48,120
done by a pro. You

2030
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,700
Adam Curry: didn't do that the
clip came that way. Yes, I did.

2031
01:59:50,940 --> 01:59:53,880
You did that. Yeah, that's
pretty good. The

2032
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:56,070
John C Dvorak: clip was
extremely well you could tell

2033
01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:57,630
was very profane. This

2034
01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:01,080
Adam Curry: is the problem with
social media these days. I mean,

2035
02:00:01,110 --> 02:00:04,860
if you go on X, he's gone X for
five minutes. You're seeing

2036
02:00:04,860 --> 02:00:08,220
people kill each other. You see
murderers, you seeing. It's

2037
02:00:08,220 --> 02:00:10,050
terrible. It really is.

2038
02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:12,660
John C Dvorak: It's just yeah,
these doofus is like threatening

2039
02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:13,560
everyone. Yeah.

2040
02:00:14,580 --> 02:00:17,370
Adam Curry: And not that I'm
against free speech, you should

2041
02:00:17,370 --> 02:00:18,990
be able to I mean, that's
actually threatening. I don't

2042
02:00:18,990 --> 02:00:21,720
think that I think there may be
limits to what you can do there.

2043
02:00:23,190 --> 02:00:26,820
Now, I'm all for free, you know,
open news media, but it's not

2044
02:00:26,820 --> 02:00:31,440
like, it's not a healthy thing.
To be going on social media and

2045
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:35,910
looking at all this stuff. It's
I agree and tick tock, as you

2046
02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:38,310
know, I've loaded up the app
once or twice, and I deleted it

2047
02:00:38,310 --> 02:00:42,450
immediately, because you stop
for one second on how this is

2048
02:00:42,450 --> 02:00:45,540
kind of let's see how this guy
gets killed. Oh, man, that's

2049
02:00:45,540 --> 02:00:48,600
horrible. And then you get five
more. And then you scroll in and

2050
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:50,700
scroll down because you're
watching them you shouldn't be

2051
02:00:50,700 --> 02:00:52,890
watching. No, exactly. It's very
unhealthy.

2052
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:56,790
John C Dvorak: I do not have an
app. I never use an app. I use

2053
02:00:56,790 --> 02:01:01,140
the by going to a web browser
browser. I goes on done the

2054
02:01:01,140 --> 02:01:07,200
browser and I type in tik
tok.com. Yes, it brings up a

2055
02:01:07,950 --> 02:01:11,310
brings up and I'll search for
something specifically. And

2056
02:01:11,310 --> 02:01:12,750
maybe I'll find it or I won't.

2057
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:16,920
Adam Curry: Now do you look for
crazy transgender people was

2058
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:17,730
that your search

2059
02:01:17,730 --> 02:01:20,220
John C Dvorak: people send those
to me this was sent to me by one

2060
02:01:20,220 --> 02:01:24,450
of our producers. So this guy,

2061
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,690
Adam Curry: this is a this is
something that I saw this

2062
02:01:27,690 --> 02:01:32,280
morning. It was on MSNBC the
Katie Fang show never seen her

2063
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:37,050
show before. I was a miracle
because I was watching it live

2064
02:01:37,050 --> 02:01:42,120
on the on YouTube TV while
taking a shower or you know,

2065
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:43,470
shaving, electrocute

2066
02:01:43,470 --> 02:01:44,100
John C Dvorak: yourself.

2067
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:51,330
Adam Curry: And, like, Ah, I
wish I had this clip of this guy

2068
02:01:51,330 --> 02:01:56,280
and of the situation. And lo and
behold that MSNBC had the whole

2069
02:01:56,280 --> 02:02:01,260
show up on YouTube so I was able
to get these two clips. And we

2070
02:02:01,260 --> 02:02:05,010
know what's going on here but I
just wanted to accentuate the

2071
02:02:05,010 --> 02:02:08,640
point of what's happening. In
this particular case

2072
02:02:08,670 --> 02:02:13,050
Unknown: in May of 2022. Rapper
Young Thug whose given name is

2073
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:16,560
Jeffrey Lamar Williams and 27
other defendants were charged in

2074
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:20,790
a sweeping 65 count indictment,
accusing the suspects of being

2075
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:25,500
part of a criminal street gang
named why SL or young slime

2076
02:02:25,500 --> 02:02:29,400
life. Rico indictment alleges
Young Thug and otherwise all

2077
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:32,160
members committed crimes like
murder, armed robbery,

2078
02:02:32,190 --> 02:02:35,550
aggravated assault with a deadly
weapon fest drug dealing,

2079
02:02:35,550 --> 02:02:38,670
carjacking and witness
intimidation. Young dog is

2080
02:02:38,670 --> 02:02:43,050
charged with eight out of the 65
total counts. Since this arrest

2081
02:02:43,050 --> 02:02:45,990
Young Thug has been in the Cobb
County Jail for nearly two years

2082
02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:49,950
awaiting trial. And in November,
prosecutors secured a win win

2083
02:02:49,950 --> 02:02:53,400
the presiding judge agreed to
allow them to use relevant rap

2084
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:57,540
lyrics in the trial as evidence
but the use of these lyrics

2085
02:02:57,540 --> 02:03:00,390
raises the question of whether
that's constitutional in the

2086
02:03:00,390 --> 02:03:03,840
first place. After all Johnny
Cash and get arrested for

2087
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,260
singing. I shot a man in Reno
just to watch him die.

2088
02:03:08,790 --> 02:03:12,750
Adam Curry: Next idiot so what
you're what was not in this

2089
02:03:12,750 --> 02:03:16,680
report at all and what you won't
hear but I want to circle back

2090
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:20,760
to it is this is about drill
rap. And this is something I

2091
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:23,220
learned from all we talked about
it extensively when that whole

2092
02:03:23,220 --> 02:03:28,740
gang got arrested in New York.
Drill rap is very popular. This

2093
02:03:28,740 --> 02:03:33,060
is where gangs are are indeed
killing each other and then make

2094
02:03:33,090 --> 02:03:37,860
a hip hop songs about it. The
sick part of this is the music

2095
02:03:37,890 --> 02:03:45,810
industry uses this this drill
rap. Once you know once

2096
02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:48,570
something starts hitting the
algos in YouTube, then it hits

2097
02:03:48,570 --> 02:03:55,410
the algos in Spotify, then they
sign these drill rappers to a

2098
02:03:55,410 --> 02:03:59,220
sub label of a major label and
they're making money off of it.

2099
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:01,650
We've talked about I don't know
if you remember, they are

2100
02:04:01,650 --> 02:04:07,290
literally making money off of
black men killing each other.

2101
02:04:07,500 --> 02:04:12,330
And glorifying it. It's it
started in the UK. And it's both

2102
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:17,310
it though Yeah, it's huge over
in the UK is big in America. And

2103
02:04:17,340 --> 02:04:21,540
it's what's disgusting about it
is that this is the music

2104
02:04:21,540 --> 02:04:24,810
industry. They are they are
promoting this they are

2105
02:04:24,810 --> 02:04:29,490
propagating this they do not
care. And so of course they

2106
02:04:29,490 --> 02:04:34,710
bring in the hugest music
industry douche bag lawyer to

2107
02:04:34,710 --> 02:04:35,610
defend it.

2108
02:04:35,820 --> 02:04:38,160
Unknown: Joining me now is Scott
Grubin criminal defense attorney

2109
02:04:38,190 --> 02:04:40,890
in Georgia who previously
represented Kenneth Chesbro. In

2110
02:04:40,890 --> 02:04:44,010
the Fulton County Election
interference Rico case. So let's

2111
02:04:44,010 --> 02:04:46,260
focus a little bit on some of
these lyrics. They include,

2112
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:49,620
quote, without a lot of
followers, a perfect leader, a

2113
02:04:49,620 --> 02:04:53,670
boss, I call the shots another
one for slimes, you know, I'll

2114
02:04:53,670 --> 02:04:57,060
kill another one. And I never
killed anybody but I got

2115
02:04:57,060 --> 02:04:59,160
something to do with that body.

2116
02:04:59,190 --> 02:05:03,450
Adam Curry: No Wait until you
hear this guy's defense. Scott,

2117
02:05:03,450 --> 02:05:03,570
what

2118
02:05:03,570 --> 02:05:05,970
Unknown: happened to the First
Amendment? In this case?

2119
02:05:06,030 --> 02:05:11,160
I think the problem here is that
rappers are not given the same

2120
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:16,320
artistic license, as other
artists are in music and other

2121
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:20,010
industries. I always give the
example you just gave an example

2122
02:05:20,010 --> 02:05:23,280
about Johnny Cash. I'd like to
give an example about the actor

2123
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:27,690
Joe Pesci. Alright, think for a
minute Joe Pesci is prosecuted

2124
02:05:27,690 --> 02:05:31,830
for some sort of violent crime.
With the prosecutor tried to

2125
02:05:31,860 --> 02:05:35,580
admit evidence of some of his
scenes in his movies like

2126
02:05:35,580 --> 02:05:39,540
Goodfellas, like casino, where
he's engaging in violent acts

2127
02:05:39,570 --> 02:05:42,420
where he's threatening violent
acts? Of course they wouldn't.

2128
02:05:42,660 --> 02:05:46,110
And if they did, the judge
wouldn't let it in. Why? Because

2129
02:05:46,140 --> 02:05:51,090
everybody knows that Job has she
is playing a part. He's playing

2130
02:05:51,090 --> 02:05:54,390
whatever, whatever character
he's playing on that movie.

2131
02:05:54,540 --> 02:05:59,100
Well, guess what? So Williams,
this man is not named Young

2132
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:02,640
Thug. This man is named Jeffrey
Williams. And he's playing a

2133
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:07,110
character too. So when he says
those things on the big slime, I

2134
02:06:07,110 --> 02:06:10,590
have something to do with that
body. How is that any different

2135
02:06:10,590 --> 02:06:14,280
than Joe Pesci saying, hey,
looking at me I'm gonna kill you

2136
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:18,030
on Goodfellas it's really not
and for some reason and I think

2137
02:06:18,030 --> 02:06:21,120
there might be arguments as to
what some of those reasons are.

2138
02:06:21,390 --> 02:06:26,880
Racism rap artists are not given
the artistic license and freedom

2139
02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:28,530
that these other artists are

2140
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:31,800
Adam Curry: they should arrest
all these these record

2141
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:36,750
executives abreast the labels
arrest the Spotify executives

2142
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:40,500
arrest YouTube people
responsible for promoting this

2143
02:06:40,620 --> 02:06:46,560
this is this is really
atrocious. It's so just sick.

2144
02:06:47,370 --> 02:06:50,250
And this and this is how these
guys did racist.

2145
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:55,590
John C Dvorak: Fascinating
clips. I thank you. Thank you.

2146
02:06:56,010 --> 02:07:01,980
Because the argument is logical,
I think is totally logical, but

2147
02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:05,580
the background indicates
otherwise. In other words, if

2148
02:07:05,580 --> 02:07:10,650
you don't know about the what's
going on, at the bait base, it's

2149
02:07:10,650 --> 02:07:14,280
not baseless, but a base level
you know what's going on? You

2150
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:18,000
can't the argument is specious.
Yes but the fact that you throw

2151
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,310
the specious argument out there
because it makes nothing but

2152
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:26,940
sense it because logical makes
this interesting. Thank you. I

2153
02:07:26,940 --> 02:07:29,460
know there's like I think
everybody out there would at

2154
02:07:29,460 --> 02:07:34,260
least find some level of
interest in that. racy thing you

2155
02:07:34,260 --> 02:07:35,580
just brought in. Yes,

2156
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:36,900
Adam Curry: I would hope so.

2157
02:07:37,110 --> 02:07:38,730
John C Dvorak: Well never
discuss it again. I

2158
02:07:38,730 --> 02:07:42,450
Adam Curry: hope well, you never
know. There is one more tick

2159
02:07:42,450 --> 02:07:46,440
tock related clip I just had
this for the last show

2160
02:07:55,770 --> 02:08:02,460
that's right everybody's vape
wars now even even discussed on

2161
02:08:02,460 --> 02:08:06,450
D H unplugged how big tobacco
companies bought up vape

2162
02:08:06,450 --> 02:08:11,730
companies was it for like, what
did they buy that vape company

2163
02:08:11,730 --> 02:08:15,840
for like $20 billion in this
outrageous amount of money and

2164
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:19,020
they wrote it off for 400
million like okay, that was that

2165
02:08:19,170 --> 02:08:24,300
we failed and and if you look at
the statistics, cigarette

2166
02:08:24,300 --> 02:08:28,140
smoking as backup, it's on the
rise, but we still have these

2167
02:08:28,170 --> 02:08:34,710
idiot kids vaping which in my
from my research is healthier

2168
02:08:34,710 --> 02:08:40,110
than smoking. There may be other
issues but I'm a vapor and and I

2169
02:08:40,110 --> 02:08:44,190
like it I enjoyed I stopped
smoking tobacco and other other

2170
02:08:44,190 --> 02:08:47,040
plants product, other plant
products, which I feel are

2171
02:08:47,070 --> 02:08:49,200
perfectly fine for people to
smoke, but it wasn't for me

2172
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:53,670
anymore. But vaping Oh, no, no,
we're taking money right out of

2173
02:08:53,670 --> 02:08:58,920
the Big Tobacco is pockets which
directly affects the master

2174
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:05,070
states agreement, which is the
money that that states receive

2175
02:09:05,100 --> 02:09:08,130
as compensation for all the
people who are dying from

2176
02:09:09,450 --> 02:09:12,930
cancer. This was the business
the agreement this is what the

2177
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:16,650
big tobacco agreement was all
about. And so we have taxes and

2178
02:09:16,650 --> 02:09:19,800
those taxes. No good states can
take these taxes because you

2179
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:22,680
know, we have to pay for people
who are dying of of smoking

2180
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:25,470
cigarettes and we can't have
that go away. And it seemed like

2181
02:09:25,470 --> 02:09:28,530
the kids were stopping to smoke.
And then we had to stop that

2182
02:09:28,530 --> 02:09:31,020
especially menthol because you
know, black people smoking

2183
02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:35,970
that's why we can have people
vaping menthol so let's get

2184
02:09:35,970 --> 02:09:37,470
these kids off the vape

2185
02:09:38,370 --> 02:09:41,040
Unknown: a new trend on tick
tock, I just want to tell you

2186
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:44,100
one more reason you should stop
vaping and encouraging people to

2187
02:09:44,100 --> 02:09:48,840
stop vaping but this time, it's
not about their health. It's

2188
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:52,140
aimed at helping workers in the
Democratic Republic of Congo's

2189
02:09:52,230 --> 02:09:56,730
artisanal cobalt mines, smaller
scale operations, where the work

2190
02:09:56,760 --> 02:10:00,720
is often done by hand. These
mines have danger As conditions

2191
02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:04,560
and even child labor, according
to humanitarian groups like

2192
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:06,000
Amnesty International,

2193
02:10:06,090 --> 02:10:08,970
I'm quitting vaping The reason
it's still happening is because

2194
02:10:08,970 --> 02:10:11,280
of how much we consume. Creator

2195
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,070
Christina and darchei Heard
about what happens in these

2196
02:10:14,070 --> 02:10:17,700
minds, and says she was so
outraged. Like she had to do

2197
02:10:17,700 --> 02:10:19,740
something. And he just kept
saying, don't buy new

2198
02:10:19,740 --> 02:10:21,810
electronics. And I'm like,
already do that, you know, what

2199
02:10:21,810 --> 02:10:22,200
else can

2200
02:10:22,200 --> 02:10:25,020
I do? And then I found just a
quick vaping.

2201
02:10:25,050 --> 02:10:28,710
Cobalt is a key element used to
make lithium ion batteries,

2202
02:10:28,860 --> 02:10:31,890
which much of our technology
depends on things like

2203
02:10:31,890 --> 02:10:36,570
smartphones, electric vehicles,
and most e cigarettes, I would

2204
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:41,010
buy a vape. Pretty much like
once or twice a week, two thirds

2205
02:10:41,010 --> 02:10:43,860
of the world's cobalt supply
comes from the Democratic

2206
02:10:43,860 --> 02:10:47,550
Republic of the Congo, in
Central Africa. But most of that

2207
02:10:47,550 --> 02:10:50,910
is then sent to China where it's
refined before it's sold to

2208
02:10:50,910 --> 02:10:55,260
battery manufacturers, and then
brand name companies buy those

2209
02:10:55,260 --> 02:10:56,100
batteries.

2210
02:10:56,190 --> 02:10:59,700
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
tick tock is a valuable property

2211
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:00,690
on

2212
02:11:00,690 --> 02:11:05,520
John C Dvorak: a second. First
of all, artisanal mines. I love

2213
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:09,810
that small batch, baby, small
batch. And so we got that in

2214
02:11:09,810 --> 02:11:15,330
play. And the other thing is one
vape device. It probably one

2215
02:11:15,330 --> 02:11:22,110
Tesla probably accounts for all
devices ever manufactured. In

2216
02:11:22,110 --> 02:11:23,610
terms of battery use, so we

2217
02:11:23,610 --> 02:11:26,520
Adam Curry: got a sigh up the
children into not vaping get

2218
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:30,750
back on the stick and back on
the tobacco stick children. This

2219
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:34,770
tic toc is a valuable property
and it pains me to say it but we

2220
02:11:34,770 --> 02:11:36,270
have to pay more attention to
it.

2221
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:39,480
John C Dvorak: Hey, you're
talking you're talking to you're

2222
02:11:39,660 --> 02:11:42,780
preaching to the choir here.
This is what I've been doing.

2223
02:11:43,230 --> 02:11:45,000
Adam Curry: For years it's
always kind of the same it's

2224
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:50,280
always some nut job with with
eyeshadows like come on man. We

2225
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:54,480
have to look at other things
tick tock is doing well. And

2226
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:56,610
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your currency in the morning

2227
02:11:56,610 --> 02:11:59,070
to you the man who put the seat
in the cube head ladies

2228
02:11:59,070 --> 02:12:01,380
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end one only Mr.

2229
02:12:01,380 --> 02:12:02,070
Johnson

2230
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:06,300
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning to you Mr. Adam curry

2231
02:12:06,300 --> 02:12:11,070
also in the Moreno efficiency,
underground subs in the water.

2232
02:12:12,330 --> 02:12:14,670
The water and all the days and
nights out there in

2233
02:12:14,670 --> 02:12:17,040
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls in the troll room who've

2234
02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:18,600
been quite active today. I see
you.

2235
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:29,160
Oh, okay. 2153 That seems
better. Yeah, we're

2236
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:30,810
John C Dvorak: 300 low. Yeah,
but

2237
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:35,850
Adam Curry: but better than 1900
or whatever we had. Oh, no. 1775

2238
02:12:35,850 --> 02:12:38,760
No, it was bad. That was really
bad. No, it was bad, bad bad.

2239
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:44,430
The trolls hang out in the troll
room at troll room.io You can go

2240
02:12:44,430 --> 02:12:47,130
there yourself, troll around, do
whatever you want. Hope you feel

2241
02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:51,360
good about it. You should. It's
fun. It's femoral. So you know,

2242
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:55,230
it's like, comes in and goes and
no one's gonna make any trouble

2243
02:12:55,230 --> 02:13:00,570
for you at all. You can also get
a modern podcast app, save

2244
02:13:00,570 --> 02:13:03,810
yourself some trouble. The
update within 90 seconds of the

2245
02:13:03,810 --> 02:13:07,350
no agenda show updating. And
there's probably it's probably

2246
02:13:07,350 --> 02:13:11,610
about 400,000 podcasts that
update within 90 seconds on the

2247
02:13:11,610 --> 02:13:14,490
modern podcast apps. You get all
kinds of you know, you get

2248
02:13:14,490 --> 02:13:17,490
transcripts which you can search
you get album art, you get

2249
02:13:17,490 --> 02:13:22,320
chapter art, you get all kinds
of fun stuff by going to podcast

2250
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:26,400
apps.com. And move away from the
from the big boys. Move away

2251
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:29,160
from the legacy app screw those
guys. Get on with the

2252
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:32,430
independent developers. Those
small dudes small batch

2253
02:13:32,460 --> 02:13:37,290
artisanal, the artisanal apps of
podcasting. 2.0. You go Yeah.

2254
02:13:39,390 --> 02:13:42,900
What you could also do, of
course, is the especially for,

2255
02:13:44,070 --> 02:13:49,170
for for artwork. You could go to
Noah genart generator.com, if

2256
02:13:49,170 --> 02:13:54,660
you wanted to. And over there,
you could refresh and see the

2257
02:13:54,660 --> 02:13:57,930
stuff updating in real time
because we're a value for value

2258
02:13:57,930 --> 02:14:01,680
podcast, which means no
corporate weird, creepy money,

2259
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:06,330
no advertising. All we do is put
everything out there all of this

2260
02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:09,750
media deconstruction. All you
know, I think today, we're

2261
02:14:09,750 --> 02:14:14,430
probably about 769 or 72 clips,
depending on how much we play

2262
02:14:14,430 --> 02:14:19,110
after the break. Those are
thought goes into this work goes

2263
02:14:19,110 --> 02:14:22,620
into this. We put it all out
there. We we weave it together

2264
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:27,600
in the womb have no agenda, and
we present it to you free of

2265
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:31,860
charge. The value is right
there. If you find anything

2266
02:14:31,860 --> 02:14:34,590
valuable about what you've
heard, consider sending that

2267
02:14:34,590 --> 02:14:37,440
back to us in time, talent or
treasure. We'll get to the

2268
02:14:37,440 --> 02:14:41,040
treasure but when it comes to
time and talent, our artists are

2269
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:45,810
top notch. And I believe Sir
Paul couture has done some extra

2270
02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:50,220
work for us and has upgraded
some servers and he actually

2271
02:14:50,220 --> 02:14:53,070
posted posted something this
morning. Yeah, happy now.

2272
02:14:53,820 --> 02:14:57,000
Unknown: Yeah, happy now. Yeah,
complainers happy now.

2273
02:14:58,410 --> 02:15:01,290
Adam Curry: So we want to thank
the art So who brought us the

2274
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:05,430
artwork for episode 1622? We
titled that juice Joe, which of

2275
02:15:05,430 --> 02:15:08,550
course is right. He was juiced
up and Darren O'Neal brought us

2276
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:09,750
the artwork that we used

2277
02:15:10,290 --> 02:15:12,780
John C Dvorak: when he lamented
it. What do you mean? They know

2278
02:15:12,780 --> 02:15:13,590
agenda social

2279
02:15:13,590 --> 02:15:14,760
Adam Curry: he lamented it.

2280
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:17,940
John C Dvorak: What do you mean?
He says? Uh huh. They picked my

2281
02:15:17,940 --> 02:15:21,810
crappy piece of art. Go figure
some laborers in that those kind

2282
02:15:21,810 --> 02:15:22,170
of words.

2283
02:15:22,710 --> 02:15:25,950
Adam Curry: We'll strike it from
the record. If that's how he

2284
02:15:25,950 --> 02:15:26,160
didn't

2285
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:29,520
John C Dvorak: think much of it
himself. This sounds like so we

2286
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:31,950
liked it. It was the media
decoding, right. Wherever, why?

2287
02:15:31,980 --> 02:15:35,460
Why did we like it? Because
there was nothing else. It was a

2288
02:15:35,460 --> 02:15:38,760
fallback piece of crap. And most
of us is going to be on Darren

2289
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:39,570
side on this

2290
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:43,740
Adam Curry: most because people
are posting AR AI stuff. But no,

2291
02:15:43,740 --> 02:15:46,110
John C Dvorak: they're all
posting AI stuff. And then a

2292
02:15:46,110 --> 02:15:49,770
bunch of people are doing Disney
stuff because of the release.

2293
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:53,070
Adam Curry: Oh, we already said
no, we're not going to do said

2294
02:15:53,070 --> 02:15:53,280
no

2295
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:54,900
John C Dvorak: to that. Don't
we're not going to pick it

2296
02:15:54,930 --> 02:15:57,210
because we don't want Disney
going after us. Disney is

2297
02:15:57,210 --> 02:16:00,690
Adam Curry: already making
trouble about people. D

2298
02:16:00,690 --> 02:16:05,580
monetizing D platforming YouTube
videos. You know this is someone

2299
02:16:05,580 --> 02:16:11,760
created an AI Art Generator.
That's all that's all about

2300
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:13,590
Steamboat Willie. Oh, I'd

2301
02:16:13,590 --> 02:16:14,430
John C Dvorak: love to see that.

2302
02:16:16,140 --> 02:16:21,780
Adam Curry: Now, so every
everybody's a prompt a prompt

2303
02:16:21,780 --> 02:16:22,740
engineer now.

2304
02:16:24,240 --> 02:16:26,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
it is. Prompt engineering.

2305
02:16:26,670 --> 02:16:29,400
Adam Curry: The stuff that was
real was correct. A record that

2306
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:33,120
wasn't great. It was via was an
old What was it like? Look like

2307
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:39,780
a 286 computer with the best
podcast on the net? Understand

2308
02:16:41,250 --> 02:16:46,890
this kid, you know, a lot of
people did Hawking's art, which,

2309
02:16:47,130 --> 02:16:51,990
believe me, was not great than
we had. I mean, it's just it's

2310
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:56,610
aI stuff. It's not. This is this
is my problem. I mean, there's

2311
02:16:56,610 --> 02:17:00,300
lots of stuff being created, but
this has no soul. It's no soul.

2312
02:17:00,300 --> 02:17:03,780
That's what it is soulless its
soul is baseless, soulless art.

2313
02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:07,530
Yeah, it's right. It's not good.
Um, it

2314
02:17:07,530 --> 02:17:10,650
John C Dvorak: hasn't got any
oomph. Ah, yes, it's, um,

2315
02:17:10,650 --> 02:17:15,870
flawless, Toothless and
soulless. And mostly not funny.

2316
02:17:16,260 --> 02:17:19,020
Adam Curry: That's the worst
part. And I think what happens

2317
02:17:19,020 --> 02:17:20,760
is because it's slick,

2318
02:17:21,300 --> 02:17:23,430
John C Dvorak: that they're
really slick. But not all of it,

2319
02:17:23,430 --> 02:17:25,620
though. Now, some of this crappy
slide. But

2320
02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:27,360
Adam Curry: the real artists
like, Oh, they're probably

2321
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:30,540
choose this. This is so slick. I
could never do this. Well, you

2322
02:17:30,540 --> 02:17:34,260
could. You could? Well,

2323
02:17:34,290 --> 02:17:36,900
John C Dvorak: you know, usually
these these are generators. And

2324
02:17:36,990 --> 02:17:42,540
you do one or AI art. And you do
them and you get a bunch of

2325
02:17:42,540 --> 02:17:45,540
sometimes you get select
selections. You get maybe a few

2326
02:17:45,540 --> 02:17:49,500
to look at. And you look at him.
You go Wow. That's pretty

2327
02:17:49,500 --> 02:17:52,950
impressive. Yeah. And that's
exactly what you said. I don't

2328
02:17:52,950 --> 02:17:57,930
think I could do this piece. So
I'm gonna submit it. Exactly.

2329
02:17:58,710 --> 02:18:02,190
Adam Curry: Yeah. And but its
own flawless and solace. Pretty

2330
02:18:02,190 --> 02:18:05,670
John C Dvorak: much. It's kind
of just junk spot. Junk spot

2331
02:18:05,700 --> 02:18:07,470
art. Yeah.

2332
02:18:07,530 --> 02:18:10,590
Adam Curry: And it makes me sad,
because we've had, you know,

2333
02:18:10,620 --> 02:18:16,470
probably 27,000 submissions up
until the AI revolution. And it

2334
02:18:16,470 --> 02:18:25,080
just sucks. I mean, people get
mad at me. We curry be. Oh, by

2335
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:30,180
the way, we should probably we
forgot to do a mia culpa about

2336
02:18:30,180 --> 02:18:37,770
the Panama Canal. Oh, yeah. Do
it because you said it. Ah,

2337
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:40,770
John C Dvorak: well, the Panama
Canal is largely filled and

2338
02:18:40,770 --> 02:18:43,950
released water from this big
giant lake, which I forgot

2339
02:18:43,950 --> 02:18:47,700
about, which is where the canal
kind of goes next to this this

2340
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:52,680
lake fills in is that lake is
down because of the drought in

2341
02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:55,890
Panama. And so that's causing
issues with the canal, the way

2342
02:18:55,890 --> 02:18:59,670
it's engineered. So it's not
just ocean water going through

2343
02:18:59,670 --> 02:19:03,540
there. So I don't see why you
can't just bring more ocean

2344
02:19:03,540 --> 02:19:04,500
water in.

2345
02:19:04,740 --> 02:19:08,520
Adam Curry: But what's
interesting is I love I'd say

2346
02:19:08,730 --> 02:19:13,380
60% of people said, oh, no,
you're wrong. You know, I live

2347
02:19:13,380 --> 02:19:16,110
there, or I looked it up, you
know, it's like, oh, no, it's

2348
02:19:16,500 --> 02:19:22,320
it's actually it's a series of
tubes. And it's freshwater. But

2349
02:19:22,650 --> 02:19:25,830
there's people who say, I can't
believe

2350
02:19:28,110 --> 02:19:30,630
John C Dvorak: that same guy
didn't even don't even know why

2351
02:19:30,630 --> 02:19:32,070
he listens to the show.

2352
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:37,830
Adam Curry: I only took five
seconds to research this. And

2353
02:19:37,830 --> 02:19:39,090
they send it to me.

2354
02:19:39,629 --> 02:19:42,839
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the
by the way, that's the best

2355
02:19:42,839 --> 02:19:43,439
part.

2356
02:19:43,590 --> 02:19:46,470
Adam Curry: And so I reply and
say I'm not John's intern and I

2357
02:19:46,470 --> 02:19:47,610
copy you did that

2358
02:19:47,610 --> 02:19:50,160
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that
you always see see me so you

2359
02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:53,010
make sure that I'm I'm aware of
your IRA.

2360
02:19:54,570 --> 02:19:58,770
Adam Curry: Because it I mean,
people were just dudes. I mean,

2361
02:19:58,770 --> 02:20:01,800
yes, we are the creative world.
Our Consulting Group yes, we're

2362
02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:03,990
pretty good immediate
deconstruction of doing it for

2363
02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:05,880
long while we're fallible.

2364
02:20:06,750 --> 02:20:09,270
John C Dvorak: But then no, we
make a mistake a month, at least

2365
02:20:09,450 --> 02:20:09,810
more

2366
02:20:09,810 --> 02:20:16,950
Adam Curry: than that. But then
the the Snark of it, I'm sorry,

2367
02:20:17,550 --> 02:20:22,050
your own podcast. By the way,
speaking of value got

2368
02:20:22,050 --> 02:20:23,670
John C Dvorak: to be harder to
lux.

2369
02:20:25,170 --> 02:20:28,170
Adam Curry: Creative Work
consulting group time, we got a

2370
02:20:28,170 --> 02:20:33,660
note from LC and Tali trying to
read this in the morning. This

2371
02:20:33,660 --> 02:20:40,800
is LC and Talia ages 16 and 12.
Hey, John. This is a girl's

2372
02:20:40,980 --> 02:20:44,100
probably one of our youngest
producers. We love the show

2373
02:20:44,100 --> 02:20:48,150
them. We love the show. And it
has entertained us on multiple

2374
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:51,000
road trips. So we thought we
would contribute in the form of

2375
02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:54,720
jingles. Our mom is going to
send in some money to deduce our

2376
02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:57,360
dad but hasn't gotten to it yet.
Come on, Mom, what are you

2377
02:20:57,360 --> 02:21:00,810
waiting for? So that we will be
the first in our family to

2378
02:21:00,810 --> 02:21:05,280
contribute. We enjoy messing
around with audio and stuff. So

2379
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:07,860
we hope you like these jingles.
Also, would you give us some

2380
02:21:07,860 --> 02:21:12,240
advice? We'd love to hear it. So
I'll just play they sent to I'll

2381
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:15,630
play one and then we should give
them a little critique. Here

2382
02:21:15,630 --> 02:21:17,970
this fractures got

2383
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:26,820
Unknown: people to be you know,
SP also stands for what? Free

2384
02:21:26,820 --> 02:21:27,480
speech

2385
02:21:31,620 --> 02:21:34,920
Adam Curry: so I it's a good
good start.

2386
02:21:35,550 --> 02:21:38,340
John C Dvorak: It's a start,
they need to drop their music

2387
02:21:38,700 --> 02:21:41,910
back. Couldn't couldn't hear the
word. I couldn't hear your

2388
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:46,110
voices. You know what? Hello. So
yeah, that should be very low. I

2389
02:21:46,110 --> 02:21:50,580
mean, you know, there's no
reason to have a booming bed on

2390
02:21:50,580 --> 02:21:54,750
top of everything. That's it's
annoying. Yes. So but if it was

2391
02:21:54,750 --> 02:21:58,200
in the background, very low way
you guys are singing in the

2392
02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:01,860
foreground with a little less
echo. I might add.

2393
02:22:01,890 --> 02:22:04,290
Adam Curry: Yes. That was also a
problem. Echo was a little bit

2394
02:22:04,290 --> 02:22:05,220
too much. Yes.

2395
02:22:05,310 --> 02:22:07,620
John C Dvorak: So you can, but
you know, you could probably run

2396
02:22:07,620 --> 02:22:10,590
it through one of those filters
and take the echo completely out

2397
02:22:10,590 --> 02:22:13,830
if you wanted to. But yeah, they
got the right idea.

2398
02:22:14,910 --> 02:22:18,180
Adam Curry: You got the right
idea, kids. We're glad. We're

2399
02:22:18,180 --> 02:22:22,380
glad. Yes. I mean, how rare is
it though, that you get young

2400
02:22:22,380 --> 02:22:26,430
people at that age who are doing
audio production? That none zero

2401
02:22:26,430 --> 02:22:28,710
never happened? That's what
that's why I thought it was

2402
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:32,940
worth playing. I like that. So
good start. Good start. So

2403
02:22:32,940 --> 02:22:35,070
that's your time. That's your
talent. And now it's time for

2404
02:22:35,070 --> 02:22:37,620
the treasurer in our value for
value model. So we're going to

2405
02:22:37,620 --> 02:22:39,810
start with our executive
producers and Associate

2406
02:22:39,810 --> 02:22:42,720
Executive Producers short list
today, I

2407
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:46,530
John C Dvorak: would say this, I
would say to be a performative

2408
02:22:46,530 --> 02:22:50,580
here, I would say I will say you
will say yes, we have a million

2409
02:22:50,580 --> 02:22:53,820
listeners and we have 30,000
people that subscribe

2410
02:22:53,850 --> 02:22:57,600
religiously to the newsletter,
and we had a total of 28

2411
02:22:57,600 --> 02:23:02,430
donations over 50 bucks. This
really is pathetic.

2412
02:23:03,720 --> 02:23:07,530
Adam Curry: We are very
appreciative though. Why don't

2413
02:23:07,530 --> 02:23:10,920
you take the first one since
there's no note and then I could

2414
02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:12,810
do the one that's very long.

2415
02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:15,900
John C Dvorak: Which is probably
what I was gonna suggest. I have

2416
02:23:15,900 --> 02:23:20,760
no idea where there's no note.
But we have a $2,000 donation I

2417
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:25,770
say after I just complaint we
have sounds like it sounds like

2418
02:23:25,770 --> 02:23:28,740
I'm a pig. But the fact is that
the

2419
02:23:30,180 --> 02:23:31,950
Adam Curry: the fact that his
Yes. In fact,

2420
02:23:31,950 --> 02:23:34,380
John C Dvorak: is that the you
know, there's like one guy

2421
02:23:34,410 --> 02:23:36,510
Adam Curry: other people are
overcompensating for the

2422
02:23:36,510 --> 02:23:38,130
freeloaders. Yeah,

2423
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:40,110
John C Dvorak: there's like one
guy, so I mean, he's a great

2424
02:23:40,110 --> 02:23:44,940
guy, but I don't you know, Paul,
why, in Corpus Christi, Texas,

2425
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:50,730
is the guy and he comes in with
$2,000 with no note that we

2426
02:23:50,730 --> 02:23:53,040
could find and I'm sure he'll
come in with a note when he

2427
02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:55,920
feels like anyway, we'll be glad
to read it when he does that.

2428
02:23:56,250 --> 02:24:00,000
dabba will give them a double up
karma until that happens, you've

2429
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:03,210
Unknown: got karma

2430
02:24:05,310 --> 02:24:10,950
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
go to Brad Rennick Brentwood,

2431
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:18,810
Tennessee 1222 which is also
quite nice, fellas. Fellas

2432
02:24:19,050 --> 02:24:23,550
consider me to be considered me
sir to be thirsty because yes,

2433
02:24:23,580 --> 02:24:28,890
this is we're in Insta instant
night level here, sir to be

2434
02:24:28,890 --> 02:24:31,920
thirsty, sir, to be thirsty. I
discovered you during COVID

2435
02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:35,010
working for a major trillion
dollar global company. Well

2436
02:24:35,010 --> 02:24:40,710
that's that narrows it down to
two which is Apple and Amazon.

2437
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:44,220
What a weird time and there was
a ton of pressure my company

2438
02:24:44,220 --> 02:24:49,290
that's based in California
stateside apple. They forced her

2439
02:24:49,290 --> 02:24:52,320
hands during that period and to
this day I feel disgusted with

2440
02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:56,250
myself for taking the shot. I
waited a year and finally cave

2441
02:24:56,250 --> 02:24:58,920
to do it to keep my job one of
my biggest life regrets because

2442
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:02,370
I never cave just now. What I
do, I went out of my way to find

2443
02:25:02,370 --> 02:25:05,700
the one place in town that
served the j&j And did that one.

2444
02:25:05,970 --> 02:25:10,080
Probably Okay, actually, no. But
I don't know, no issues, but I

2445
02:25:10,080 --> 02:25:10,620
don't know. But

2446
02:25:10,620 --> 02:25:13,140
John C Dvorak: you know, the j&j
would it get j&j The cause like

2447
02:25:13,140 --> 02:25:17,340
immediate blood clot death or
not? Or you're nothing you're

2448
02:25:17,340 --> 02:25:17,970
good to go.

2449
02:25:18,300 --> 02:25:20,430
Adam Curry: My wife is a
pediatrician and for at least a

2450
02:25:20,430 --> 02:25:23,160
solid 18 months, I fought our
tooth and nail on what she's

2451
02:25:23,160 --> 02:25:26,640
doing and what is reality? Oh,
does this end in divorce the

2452
02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:30,210
story? First half of that was me
catching up to what's really

2453
02:25:30,210 --> 02:25:33,420
going on when you guys showed up
in my life. We took a lot of

2454
02:25:33,420 --> 02:25:36,270
walks after that argument so
much because she was certain

2455
02:25:36,270 --> 02:25:38,220
that she was being told that
what she's being told

2456
02:25:38,220 --> 02:25:40,950
prescribed, and recommended is
accurate. I mean, we fought

2457
02:25:40,950 --> 02:25:44,310
hard. I'm a sales guy. She's a
doctor who wins that.

2458
02:25:45,960 --> 02:25:48,360
John C Dvorak: sales guy should
win. Yeah, anyways,

2459
02:25:48,690 --> 02:25:51,150
Adam Curry: while she hates a
lot of your machinations with

2460
02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:55,980
the noises and you're obnoxious,
and you're obnoxious. Chief

2461
02:25:55,980 --> 02:26:00,420
finds me obnoxious to over time,
though she's completely flipped

2462
02:26:01,290 --> 02:26:04,920
to slip. You guys are an
integral part of that. And she

2463
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:09,840
as she's, she is representative
of what Adam has mentioned many

2464
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,960
times before. They all go by
recommendations. There's no

2465
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:16,050
debate on this. Nobody actually
questions anything. It is pretty

2466
02:26:16,050 --> 02:26:20,820
crazy. Once you dig into all
like this. I agree with Adam.

2467
02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:25,350
Excuse me. Suit

2468
02:26:25,350 --> 02:26:26,400
John C Dvorak: gate. Duncan.

2469
02:26:26,940 --> 02:26:29,490
Adam Curry: I agree with Adam.
You can't force the apology and

2470
02:26:29,490 --> 02:26:32,820
rub it in their faces. At least
not in this case. Yeah, that's

2471
02:26:32,820 --> 02:26:36,120
right. You must forgive doesn't
mean you have to reconcile. But

2472
02:26:36,120 --> 02:26:38,910
just forgive because you're the
one that is you're eating

2473
02:26:38,910 --> 02:26:42,720
yourself up over that let it go.
But she's not even recommending

2474
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:45,420
the shot for kids now, whereas
this is still a thing everywhere

2475
02:26:45,420 --> 02:26:48,450
else in my town of Vash.
Nashville is wild. They won't

2476
02:26:48,450 --> 02:26:52,920
give the shot. Lucky they never
did. I made sure she never

2477
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:56,100
provided that. Okay, now I have
to scroll a little bit because

2478
02:26:57,180 --> 02:26:59,730
John C Dvorak: notes too long.
Yes, it is. But it's a good

2479
02:26:59,730 --> 02:27:00,870
note. We

2480
02:27:00,870 --> 02:27:03,630
Adam Curry: went to dinner
tonight. And as we rolled down

2481
02:27:03,630 --> 02:27:07,500
the highway, I said, Can we put
on no agenda? She said sure.

2482
02:27:07,710 --> 02:27:14,460
That's big. Thanks, guys. Kind
of a quick note there Well,

2483
02:27:14,460 --> 02:27:18,570
thank you brother and and you
will indeed be knighted today.

2484
02:27:18,810 --> 02:27:21,840
And I'm glad that you and your
wife were on good terms. We love

2485
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,660
that. Even though she thinks
we're she probably still thinks

2486
02:27:24,660 --> 02:27:27,660
we're obnoxious. But we are hey,
what can I tell you?

2487
02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:31,800
John C Dvorak: You have to be
obnoxious at some level to get

2488
02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:35,340
an audience to stick with you
because obnoxious pneus is part

2489
02:27:35,340 --> 02:27:36,390
of personality.

2490
02:27:36,420 --> 02:27:39,210
Adam Curry: Ooh, yes. Yes. It's
Don't you think it's charisma?

2491
02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:43,440
John C Dvorak: Not necessarily
good personality but it is one

2492
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:46,770
of the I hate listeners. It is
what I am B's not one of them.

2493
02:27:46,770 --> 02:27:50,310
She comes in from ashington.
Great Britain. I don't even know

2494
02:27:50,310 --> 02:27:53,040
where that is. I mean, I work
Great Britain is I never heard

2495
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:56,490
of ashington. But that's where
she's from jobs karma for MX

2496
02:27:56,490 --> 02:27:59,490
security UK and are all our
security officers who work

2497
02:27:59,490 --> 02:28:03,270
through Christmas and New Year.
Best wishes for 2024. She came

2498
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:08,520
in with 333 dot for for jingles,
jobs, jobs, jobs. 33 is the

2499
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:14,100
magic number. Executive producer
ship for Diane bee loves lit 33

2500
02:28:14,670 --> 02:28:20,040
Unknown: That's the magic
number. The magic number of

2501
02:28:20,940 --> 02:28:26,190
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2502
02:28:27,450 --> 02:28:33,270
Adam Curry: Yay. All right. Now
we move to Archie Brentano from

2503
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:37,320
Tigard Oregon 333 dot 33. We'd
love these numbers at Oh JCD and

2504
02:28:37,320 --> 02:28:41,460
pod father with this donation of
333 dot 33 I've donated a total

2505
02:28:41,460 --> 02:28:49,320
of $1,000.01 for 33. Is that a
binary or 33? Oh, this

2506
02:28:49,320 --> 02:28:54,660
switcheroo is on behalf is for
my better half Mandy? All right,

2507
02:28:54,660 --> 02:28:58,860
hold on a second. So I'm gonna
put Mandy in that switcheroo on

2508
02:28:59,370 --> 02:29:02,340
I presume Her name is Brentano
but doesn't matter because

2509
02:29:02,340 --> 02:29:05,730
she'll have been making for
somebody when you assume yeah it

2510
02:29:05,730 --> 02:29:09,030
doesn't matter because we list
her her Dame name henceforth

2511
02:29:09,030 --> 02:29:13,560
known as Dame Yeah, no, until
she puts puts up treasurer to

2512
02:29:13,560 --> 02:29:17,700
change it that's how you get
them please get a good one.

2513
02:29:17,730 --> 02:29:21,960
Please credit her with this
executive producer credit it has

2514
02:29:21,960 --> 02:29:24,300
been a long journey and I'll be
proud to have her at the

2515
02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:31,020
roundtable for jiggles slash
jingles little girl yay. TPP

2516
02:29:31,020 --> 02:29:36,690
jobs karma and uh ya know, so if
you don't mind I will. I'll do

2517
02:29:36,690 --> 02:29:42,300
the ya know. And then we'll do
the TPP jobs karma with a little

2518
02:29:42,300 --> 02:29:49,440
girl. Yeah, yeah, no jobs, jobs,
jobs, jobs. Jobs. Karma.

2519
02:29:53,460 --> 02:29:57,210
John C Dvorak: I'll take the
next couple including in and I'm

2520
02:29:57,210 --> 02:29:59,100
Adam Curry: sorry, I'm sorry, I
forgot to say something here.

2521
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,960
request for the round my mistake
requests for the round table

2522
02:30:04,350 --> 02:30:08,100
almond dairy and vanilla plus
put on the birthday list for

2523
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:11,700
January 7 and give her a
biscuit. Nothing is too good for

2524
02:30:11,700 --> 02:30:14,790
my day. They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. Oh,

2525
02:30:14,790 --> 02:30:15,450
sorry about that

2526
02:30:15,570 --> 02:30:17,640
John C Dvorak: because she's on
the list and Williams is up

2527
02:30:17,760 --> 02:30:23,550
pagewood In New South Wales,
Australia to 22 and she's got no

2528
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:27,120
note so she gets a double up
karma.

2529
02:30:28,650 --> 02:30:32,220
Unknown: You've got karma

2530
02:30:33,270 --> 02:30:37,320
John C Dvorak: that follows with
Linda Lou packin comes in on

2531
02:30:37,320 --> 02:30:40,770
Saturdays and she came in right
on time again, from Lakewood,

2532
02:30:40,770 --> 02:30:44,430
Colorado. We were wondering now
how long this will continue

2533
02:30:44,460 --> 02:30:47,970
Yeah, she comes in with 200
bucks every single show and

2534
02:30:47,970 --> 02:30:53,340
asked for jobs karma and likes
to say for a remarkable resume

2535
02:30:53,340 --> 02:30:59,550
that gets results go to Image
makers inc.com For all your

2536
02:30:59,550 --> 02:31:04,530
executive resume and job search
needs. That's image makers

2537
02:31:04,530 --> 02:31:08,100
equals a k.com or just find
Linda hupac in under the show's

2538
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:09,870
producer list jobs,

2539
02:31:10,020 --> 02:31:14,250
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
jobs

2540
02:31:16,620 --> 02:31:21,120
Adam Curry: and we're almost
there two more one more

2541
02:31:21,120 --> 02:31:25,260
Associate Executive producer sir
Mike the fortunate from Fuquay

2542
02:31:25,260 --> 02:31:29,550
Varina think that's the way
pronounce it. North Carolina 200

2543
02:31:29,730 --> 02:31:33,600
Switch routes which route John
Adam a belated birthday present

2544
02:31:34,710 --> 02:31:38,820
credit to my keeper and best
friend Dame Kelly the resolute

2545
02:31:40,230 --> 02:31:43,860
the info on the Middle East
situation on the last podcast

2546
02:31:43,860 --> 02:31:47,730
was exceptional. The podcast
gets better and better keep up

2547
02:31:47,730 --> 02:31:53,040
the good work jingles. Judge
Jeanine Bama McGann Obama you

2548
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:57,000
might die a little girl yay from
Sir Mike the fortunate bomb

2549
02:31:57,000 --> 02:31:58,650
Unknown: them bomb them

2550
02:31:58,770 --> 02:32:01,530
and bomb them again you might
die

2551
02:32:04,920 --> 02:32:09,840
John C Dvorak: last is Lynn Lynn
of the Garden State that's a New

2552
02:32:09,840 --> 02:32:15,420
Jersey. ITM Jen, she writes it
to send a card nice card. It's a

2553
02:32:15,420 --> 02:32:19,500
card you can tell by the noise.
ITM John and Adam sending you

2554
02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:24,630
both a note of appreciation for
your work to keep us all calm.

2555
02:32:24,690 --> 02:32:29,340
Thank you this in this crazy
world, I need to start off 2024

2556
02:32:29,340 --> 02:32:33,780
with my first donation, no
agenda. Hey, go. So as she does

2557
02:32:33,780 --> 02:32:40,110
requested de douching we can do
that. You've been de deuced she

2558
02:32:40,110 --> 02:32:43,140
continues to happy to return
some of the value have provided

2559
02:32:43,140 --> 02:32:48,480
me on my long on my long
commutes to work. I'm requesting

2560
02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:51,510
the D tuition which she just got
and a double up karma for

2561
02:32:51,510 --> 02:33:01,290
everybody Lin of the Garden
State. You've got karma. And

2562
02:33:01,290 --> 02:33:05,580
that is our Executive Associate
Executive producers for show

2563
02:33:05,730 --> 02:33:07,530
1623.

2564
02:33:07,590 --> 02:33:09,990
Adam Curry: And these are
credits that stay with you for

2565
02:33:09,990 --> 02:33:13,920
the rest of your life. It's
almost like herpes forever you

2566
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:17,310
will have the better, though
much better. You will be an

2567
02:33:17,310 --> 02:33:19,980
executive producer or Associate
Executive Producer of episode

2568
02:33:19,980 --> 02:33:23,130
1623 of the best podcast in the
universe. You can put it in your

2569
02:33:23,130 --> 02:33:27,270
LinkedIn profile, any profile,
really any social media if you

2570
02:33:27,270 --> 02:33:32,010
want to. Of course you might get
harassed. If you're if you you

2571
02:33:32,010 --> 02:33:34,890
know you know how it is on, on
LinkedIn, you could put it in

2572
02:33:34,890 --> 02:33:39,510
your resume. resume that might
actually blend a loopback in

2573
02:33:39,510 --> 02:33:43,320
mind a great put on your resume
or go to imdb.com you can open

2574
02:33:43,320 --> 02:33:45,690
up a profile if you don't have
one which you probably don't but

2575
02:33:45,690 --> 02:33:49,560
with this hundreds and hundreds
of Executive Associate Executive

2576
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:51,480
Producer with no agenda show
because they're real, they're

2577
02:33:51,480 --> 02:33:55,200
recognized. And and they're
yours forever. And John's gonna

2578
02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:58,710
take us through the 50s It'll go
real quick. And then we'll we'll

2579
02:33:58,740 --> 02:34:04,110
night a Damon and a night and a
dame and we've got some meetups,

2580
02:34:04,110 --> 02:34:05,310
all kinds of stuff to talk
about.

2581
02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:07,620
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know
you're in trouble and your first

2582
02:34:07,620 --> 02:34:14,730
donor in the in this list is
Kevin McLaughlin. 808 is the

2583
02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:17,790
Archduke of Luna lover of
American boobs. And then

2584
02:34:17,790 --> 02:34:21,780
Jeremiah Spiewak. in Highland
Park, Illinois comes in with

2585
02:34:21,780 --> 02:34:28,890
what he calls pointy boobs of
707. No point this is new. This

2586
02:34:28,890 --> 02:34:32,520
is a new this is a new, totally
new and then it follows with

2587
02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:36,900
grace and insurance. Grayson
insurance in Aurora, Colorado

2588
02:34:37,020 --> 02:34:41,940
606 small boobs so we have three
boob donations in a row all of

2589
02:34:41,940 --> 02:34:45,840
different donation amounts.
Meanwhile, we have Eli that

2590
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:50,070
coffee guide gig brought coffee
roasters.com Yeah,

2591
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:53,790
Adam Curry: so I've been I had
one this morning. Yeah, but let

2592
02:34:53,790 --> 02:34:57,120
John C Dvorak: me just say
Bensenville Illinois 1656 50.

2593
02:34:57,150 --> 02:35:00,600
Adam Curry: Yep. So I had one of
these gigawatt cold fusion.

2594
02:35:01,140 --> 02:35:04,380
Yeah. Which it's made with snap
tool technology.

2595
02:35:05,310 --> 02:35:06,120
John C Dvorak: That is I'm,

2596
02:35:06,180 --> 02:35:08,790
Adam Curry: I'm a jacked. I've
been jacked all morning from

2597
02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:12,540
this stuff, really. But it's
interesting because you think

2598
02:35:12,540 --> 02:35:16,920
you'll be me it is all it is is
coffee and water. That's all

2599
02:35:17,220 --> 02:35:20,820
refreshing cold coffee
experience. They don't mention

2600
02:35:20,820 --> 02:35:23,220
how much caffeine is in here,
but I guess they don't need to

2601
02:35:23,220 --> 02:35:26,850
because it just coffee, coffee
and water. That's all that's in

2602
02:35:26,850 --> 02:35:34,020
there. But man, I like it. It's
hardcore. And gotta be careful.

2603
02:35:34,950 --> 02:35:35,130
Well,

2604
02:35:35,130 --> 02:35:37,260
John C Dvorak: that's the paper
they have. They're mostly I

2605
02:35:37,260 --> 02:35:40,290
think, a bean operation.
Although they do have a bunch of

2606
02:35:40,290 --> 02:35:44,340
these canned drinks, which are a
good idea. I think you can make

2607
02:35:44,340 --> 02:35:49,350
a lot of money from Canberra.
Michael ganks. Michael gates.

2608
02:35:49,350 --> 02:35:53,550
Yeah, they're slick. Michael
gates. 50 By the way, ITM 20 for

2609
02:35:53,550 --> 02:35:58,350
20% off your order. Get that in
there. 50 To 80 from Miko gates,

2610
02:35:58,350 --> 02:36:03,450
Stephanie Schmidt in San
Francisco. 5150. And she's still

2611
02:36:03,450 --> 02:36:05,250
a librarian. Oh,

2612
02:36:05,370 --> 02:36:11,070
Adam Curry: oh, my goodness. We
I got a note. I gotta I gotta

2613
02:36:11,070 --> 02:36:15,330
read this for a second. Sorry. I
got a beautiful present. From

2614
02:36:15,330 --> 02:36:20,130
the anonymous no agenda
librarian. She sent me and this

2615
02:36:20,130 --> 02:36:26,430
is 35 years ago. She sent me the
an original poster that I did

2616
02:36:26,430 --> 02:36:30,570
for the American Library
Association, mint, complete mint

2617
02:36:30,570 --> 02:36:34,980
poster. MTV guy hair, the whole
deal, Adam curry for the

2618
02:36:34,980 --> 02:36:41,160
American Library Association. I
was blown away 35 years ago, and

2619
02:36:41,160 --> 02:36:44,190
she was able to find one because
of course, she's a librarian.

2620
02:36:44,490 --> 02:36:44,730
Yeah,

2621
02:36:44,730 --> 02:36:50,850
John C Dvorak: that's what they
do. Yeah, thank you. In fact, I

2622
02:36:50,850 --> 02:36:56,910
love my job and I love what I
do. The librarian, Josiah

2623
02:36:56,910 --> 02:37:01,980
Thomason, and Kenny, Iowa 51.
And boom, we're right at the $50

2624
02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:04,500
donors level right now and I'm
going to read them off the name

2625
02:37:04,500 --> 02:37:10,140
and location, starting with
Michael Lebar, in Williamston,

2626
02:37:10,290 --> 02:37:13,290
Michigan, Alex avala and Kyle,
Texas.

2627
02:37:13,320 --> 02:37:14,850
Adam Curry: Oh Alex, Sir Alex.

2628
02:37:16,020 --> 02:37:20,760
John C Dvorak: Matthew Smith and
Colchester, Suffolk, UK. Ryan

2629
02:37:20,790 --> 02:37:25,050
Tiernan in North Providence,
Rhode Island, Jonathan Ferris

2630
02:37:25,050 --> 02:37:30,360
and liberal Kansas. Kelly
Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota,

2631
02:37:31,260 --> 02:37:35,460
donating my winnings from
fantasy football. Good for her

2632
02:37:35,910 --> 02:37:40,260
to play. Justin Cruz and to
hatchapee California. Justin,

2633
02:37:40,590 --> 02:37:45,300
Justin. Stephen or Steven Steven
ray in Spokane, Washington.

2634
02:37:45,540 --> 02:37:51,000
Robertson O. Robertson home in
Flint, Michigan. Edward Mazurek

2635
02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:56,700
in Memphis, Tennessee. Rachael
Ray arriba arrive alright. bbe

2636
02:37:56,700 --> 02:38:00,270
in Canton, Ohio, and this is
switcheroo de douche my husband.

2637
02:38:02,070 --> 02:38:08,190
You've been de deuced he's got a
birthday and he's gonna get

2638
02:38:08,190 --> 02:38:13,740
credit Andrew. And she says his
his favorite her favorite

2639
02:38:13,740 --> 02:38:19,590
douchebag but he's bendy douche
so it's no longer true person of

2640
02:38:19,590 --> 02:38:25,470
merit comics in Columbus, Ohio.
And last on our short list, very

2641
02:38:25,470 --> 02:38:31,920
short list. Sir Jackson and
leveling, leveling that Texas.

2642
02:38:32,220 --> 02:38:34,830
He needs some jobs. Karma will
give jobs calm for everyone who

2643
02:38:34,830 --> 02:38:39,690
needs it here at the end. And
that's it. That's it done. Well

2644
02:38:39,690 --> 02:38:40,740
Adam Curry: do the jobs, jobs,

2645
02:38:40,920 --> 02:38:43,500
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

2646
02:38:43,530 --> 02:38:51,630
Adam Curry: That's karma. Got a
rather sad note from producer

2647
02:38:51,630 --> 02:38:56,040
Robert Robert Roberts. He says,
Adam Adam waffling on whether to

2648
02:38:56,040 --> 02:38:59,760
ask this. My friends Ben and
Jess stone. Ben was an avid

2649
02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:03,150
listener were killed in a car
wreck on the 29th of December.

2650
02:39:03,660 --> 02:39:09,450
Their four kids are okay. I
guess they're with them now. 136

2651
02:39:09,450 --> 02:39:13,740
and eight years old? The cooks
Yes, the company they work for

2652
02:39:13,740 --> 02:39:16,620
had a lot of listeners as well.
This has been a tragic and

2653
02:39:16,620 --> 02:39:19,350
heartbreaking loss was hoping
for prayers and love and light

2654
02:39:19,350 --> 02:39:22,890
I'm sure that everybody is
praying for for the kids. And

2655
02:39:22,890 --> 02:39:28,560
for of course, Ben and Jess and,
and you know, I don't like these

2656
02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:31,410
notes. But I did want to share
since we are the big no agenda,

2657
02:39:31,410 --> 02:39:35,730
family. And thank you very much
to all of our producers,

2658
02:39:36,450 --> 02:39:39,300
especially those who who are
always there with the

2659
02:39:39,300 --> 02:39:43,650
sustainable donations. You don't
get thanked because we don't do

2660
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anything under $50. A lot of
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2661
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So 4999 is something people use
a lot. But we'd love to

2662
02:39:51,360 --> 02:39:54,360
sustaining donations. They're
very helpful on days like today

2663
02:39:54,360 --> 02:39:56,820
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low. If you want to learn more,

2664
02:39:56,820 --> 02:40:02,790
go to no agenda donations.com or
the old one Volterra a.org/and a

2665
02:40:02,790 --> 02:40:05,490
thank you again for being
supporters have no agenda

2666
02:40:05,490 --> 02:40:11,550
episode 1623 Our formula is
this. We go out for yet people

2667
02:40:11,550 --> 02:40:12,000
in the mouth

2668
02:40:31,980 --> 02:40:34,470
we always have a couple of
birthdays to celebrate Archie

2669
02:40:34,470 --> 02:40:37,830
Brentano wishes his better half
Mandy Happy Birthday. She's

2670
02:40:37,830 --> 02:40:41,400
actually celebrating today.
Rachel ribby wants to say happy

2671
02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:45,180
birthday to her hubby Andrew now
that'll he'll be 30 on January

2672
02:40:45,180 --> 02:40:49,170
10. And Sir Mike the fortunate
says Happy Birthday to James

2673
02:40:49,170 --> 02:40:52,230
Kelly the resolute maybe it's
your birthday today regardless

2674
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:55,290
Happy Birthday and we say happy
birthday to all of you people on

2675
02:40:55,290 --> 02:41:02,100
behalf of no agenda. Oh, sorry.
We don't let me see do we have

2676
02:41:02,100 --> 02:41:06,150
any? No, no, it's just one day
one night so

2677
02:41:10,470 --> 02:41:12,420
John C Dvorak: I liked that.
Lambos combo combo.

2678
02:41:13,020 --> 02:41:17,220
Adam Curry: Mandy come on up.
Brad Brad Rennick both of you

2679
02:41:17,640 --> 02:41:22,560
are about to be knighted and
named. And of course you are now

2680
02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:26,250
night and dame of the no agenda
Roundtable. I'm very proud to

2681
02:41:26,250 --> 02:41:30,570
pronounce the k d as Dame ya
know. And sir, to be thirsty.

2682
02:41:30,570 --> 02:41:33,930
Thank you both so much for
supporting us. And of course we

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have some beautiful things from
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2689
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us an address to send that to
you along with that because it

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is a signet ring. You'll get
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correspondence and of course the
certificate of authenticity.

2694
02:42:09,210 --> 02:42:12,270
Welcome to the knights in the
dames with a roundtable we are

2695
02:42:12,270 --> 02:42:14,700
very very, very pleased to have
you here

2696
02:42:23,190 --> 02:42:26,190
John mentioned in earlier the no
agenda meetups he says

2697
02:42:26,190 --> 02:42:28,890
connection is protection which
is true, but really these

2698
02:42:28,890 --> 02:42:34,650
meetups which is it's part of
the entire no agenda. experience

2699
02:42:34,650 --> 02:42:38,580
really is one thing to listen to
the show a lot another is to to

2700
02:42:38,580 --> 02:42:41,730
go to a meet up. And meetups are
everywhere. And the great thing

2701
02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:44,760
about it is, if there's no
meetup near you, you can start

2702
02:42:44,760 --> 02:42:47,730
one and you'll be amazed how
many sometimes just one person,

2703
02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:50,670
but a lot of people get a lot of
it's amazing how many people

2704
02:42:50,670 --> 02:42:54,060
will go to a meetup if you just
go to a bar doesn't really cost

2705
02:42:54,060 --> 02:42:58,530
any money. Just go to no agenda
meetups.com It really, these

2706
02:42:58,530 --> 02:43:01,050
meetups, they keep you anchored.
It's where we can all get

2707
02:43:01,050 --> 02:43:04,650
together. You already know who
you are, who the people are, who

2708
02:43:04,650 --> 02:43:08,310
will come and you can encourage
each other. You can't get that

2709
02:43:08,310 --> 02:43:11,820
from just an online experience.
You need to do that as a part of

2710
02:43:12,900 --> 02:43:17,520
of your sanity really. And we
only have one that is coming up

2711
02:43:17,550 --> 02:43:22,440
on the 11th Wow, that's nothing
until then. That'll be Thursday

2712
02:43:22,440 --> 02:43:26,280
the northern Wake County stitch
and bitch meet up six o'clock at

2713
02:43:26,280 --> 02:43:31,290
Compass Rose brewing in Raleigh,
North Carolina. coming up in

2714
02:43:31,290 --> 02:43:34,260
January, Fredericksburg,
Virginia is the 13th Garden City

2715
02:43:34,260 --> 02:43:38,340
Idaho Los Angeles, Milwaukee
Wisconsin Westfield, Indiana on

2716
02:43:38,340 --> 02:43:42,480
the 14th on the 18th Denver,
Charlotte, North Carolina on the

2717
02:43:42,480 --> 02:43:47,010
20th Rochester New Hampshire
Fort Wayne, Indiana. Oh that was

2718
02:43:47,010 --> 02:43:50,610
going to be on the sixth so that
move to the 20th Cincinnati, San

2719
02:43:50,610 --> 02:43:55,530
Diego Anchorage, Alaska.
Kilgore, Texas, January 25,

2720
02:43:55,530 --> 02:44:00,360
Alpharetta, Georgia The 27th
Kenny, oh Kilkenny Ireland, they

2721
02:44:00,360 --> 02:44:04,290
go tulsa oklahoma on the 28th in
February we've got Rogersville

2722
02:44:04,290 --> 02:44:08,940
Alabama, fountain, Colorado,
Albany, California February 17.

2723
02:44:08,940 --> 02:44:12,630
Hagen them and Connecticut net
Connecticut as Singapore on

2724
02:44:12,630 --> 02:44:17,010
February 22. I'm looking forward
to to getting a meetup report

2725
02:44:17,010 --> 02:44:21,000
and we love meetup report. So
please consider recording short

2726
02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:23,640
little bits of people talking
about how much they love the

2727
02:44:23,640 --> 02:44:27,000
meetup no agenda meetups.com is
where you can find all the

2728
02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:29,700
meetups you can schedule one
because if you can't find one a

2729
02:44:29,700 --> 02:44:32,760
year start one yourself.
guaranteed a party.

2730
02:44:33,390 --> 02:44:42,810
Unknown: Sometimes you go hang
out with Dyson days. You'd be

2731
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:51,570
triggered you to be where
everybody feels the same. Is

2732
02:44:51,570 --> 02:44:53,220
like a body.

2733
02:44:55,020 --> 02:44:59,070
Adam Curry: All right, I have to
I have to now have three

2734
02:44:59,070 --> 02:45:03,720
actually three This one's no
good, because it's just it's not

2735
02:45:03,720 --> 02:45:05,040
clear enough, but I'll play it.

2736
02:45:05,070 --> 02:45:06,120
Unknown: I love the penis joke.

2737
02:45:06,150 --> 02:45:08,370
Oh Ha. See,

2738
02:45:08,460 --> 02:45:11,910
Adam Curry: I know you couldn't
hear it. I heard it. You heard

2739
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:12,990
it and it was Kara.

2740
02:45:14,099 --> 02:45:16,709
John C Dvorak: Kara Swisher.
Kara Swisher saying they love

2741
02:45:16,709 --> 02:45:18,419
the penis jokes. She's

2742
02:45:18,420 --> 02:45:20,940
Adam Curry: vile. She's always
talking smack

2743
02:45:22,260 --> 02:45:27,210
John C Dvorak: this one that'll
make your balls rattle. Kids

2744
02:45:27,210 --> 02:45:27,840
too. echoey

2745
02:45:27,870 --> 02:45:34,140
Adam Curry: How about this? What
a fussy little dish? Because I

2746
02:45:34,140 --> 02:45:35,700
know it's not great. What do you
have?

2747
02:45:36,120 --> 02:45:40,680
John C Dvorak: I have three.
Like you do? Yeah, I have fire

2748
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:45,150
fire. Little striker little
short little short. This fire

2749
02:45:45,180 --> 02:45:50,490
short. Never use fire short.
Okay, then try this one. It was

2750
02:45:50,490 --> 02:45:52,080
longer this is loon.

2751
02:45:52,470 --> 02:45:56,040
Adam Curry: Laser. I lose. I
like it. I can hear it. Yeah,

2752
02:45:56,070 --> 02:46:01,350
good. Laser. I lose that sound
sounds like us. Yeah,

2753
02:46:01,770 --> 02:46:04,590
John C Dvorak: it does. And then
the old classic another version

2754
02:46:04,590 --> 02:46:06,150
of it. Wow. Wow.

2755
02:46:06,510 --> 02:46:09,270
Adam Curry: No, no, I don't.
Those are too short. I like the

2756
02:46:09,300 --> 02:46:12,930
laser. I lose. I like that one.
I think I think that's a winner.

2757
02:46:13,320 --> 02:46:16,950
And I hope you accept my
decision. And now it's time for

2758
02:46:16,980 --> 02:46:17,970
Google.

2759
02:46:19,830 --> 02:46:21,240
Unknown: GDC

2760
02:46:21,270 --> 02:46:24,690
Adam Curry: good news. Everybody
had John does a lot of work just

2761
02:46:24,690 --> 02:46:28,290
for the regular portions of the
show. I mean, for those of you

2762
02:46:28,290 --> 02:46:31,140
who are listening those you
support what what a show you got

2763
02:46:31,140 --> 02:46:35,580
second half of show. And another
good news story to make you

2764
02:46:35,970 --> 02:46:40,170
John C Dvorak: do this is for
little Charlie, who was almost

2765
02:46:40,170 --> 02:46:44,010
died in the car, but he was
rescued. Oh, thank God.

2766
02:46:45,030 --> 02:46:49,440
Unknown: At 15 months old little
Charlie here loves to eat his

2767
02:46:49,440 --> 02:46:54,030
veggies dropped some for his
furry friends. Okay, and help

2768
02:46:54,030 --> 02:46:58,260
mom clean them up to birthing
makes them laugh. He's so cute.

2769
02:46:58,290 --> 02:47:01,830
But last month, this bundle of
joy in his mom faced a

2770
02:47:01,830 --> 02:47:05,610
terrifying situation when he
suddenly broke out with a high

2771
02:47:05,610 --> 02:47:07,380
fever in the middle of the
night,

2772
02:47:07,650 --> 02:47:11,280
jumped on e4 70 and I heard
something in the back

2773
02:47:11,310 --> 02:47:14,790
pulling over as fast as she
could she saw her baby having a

2774
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:18,150
seizure something that's never
happened before. If

2775
02:47:18,180 --> 02:47:20,550
if he hadn't been convulsing, he
would have looked dead like

2776
02:47:20,580 --> 02:47:26,370
there was it was like like
lifeless. And so I grabbed the

2777
02:47:26,370 --> 02:47:27,930
phone, and I call 911.

2778
02:47:27,990 --> 02:47:31,650
In a minute and 20 seconds she
says a dispatcher was able to

2779
02:47:31,650 --> 02:47:35,670
ping her location and get the
nearest deputy directed as soon

2780
02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:39,960
as possible. Moments later, she
says a team of fire and EMTs met

2781
02:47:39,960 --> 02:47:43,470
them calmly helping get Charlie
to the hospital for help.

2782
02:47:43,530 --> 02:47:48,360
They were so sweet. So that my
gratitude came from like I've

2783
02:47:48,480 --> 02:47:51,960
never needed it and but when I
did cash, they were so amazing,

2784
02:47:51,960 --> 02:47:56,070
so quick. I was just in awe

2785
02:47:56,100 --> 02:48:00,150
gratitude, they got to share in
person with the firefighters

2786
02:48:00,180 --> 02:48:05,370
EMTs deputy and dispatcher Misty
credits for helping not only her

2787
02:48:05,370 --> 02:48:08,880
son, but her to Reott we

2788
02:48:08,910 --> 02:48:11,400
talk to people on the worst days
of their lives. So when it ends

2789
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:13,500
up with a happy ending, it's
very exciting for them to come

2790
02:48:13,500 --> 02:48:16,410
up and let us know and let us
meet them and get to put faces

2791
02:48:16,410 --> 02:48:17,250
to names but it's

2792
02:48:17,250 --> 02:48:22,140
their faces their compassion and
quick response. This family will

2793
02:48:22,140 --> 02:48:23,220
never forget.

2794
02:48:23,250 --> 02:48:26,040
I'm praying for you guys every
day like you are stuck with us

2795
02:48:26,040 --> 02:48:29,250
and baby Charlie for the rest of
our lives. Nicole Fierro

2796
02:48:29,280 --> 02:48:30,330
Fox are the one

2797
02:48:30,480 --> 02:48:32,670
Adam Curry: to be honest. I
mean, it's a good news story. It

2798
02:48:32,670 --> 02:48:36,930
is. I prefer not to be medical
issues where people almost died.

2799
02:48:36,930 --> 02:48:40,530
I mean, I like to I just like
the like a cat did something

2800
02:48:40,530 --> 02:48:44,520
cute. You know? It's the only
good news stories you've come up

2801
02:48:44,520 --> 02:48:48,360
with so far. It's like something
horrible happened. We can't we

2802
02:48:48,360 --> 02:48:49,320
can we just have like,

2803
02:48:49,770 --> 02:48:53,610
John C Dvorak: you know, like, a
cat save a dog and the last one

2804
02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:56,520
Adam Curry: I know but it's
always saving a life. Good news

2805
02:48:56,520 --> 02:49:02,580
stories can just be there was a
nice event or everyone had fun.

2806
02:49:02,610 --> 02:49:05,220
John C Dvorak: Or you went soft.
Good news stories.

2807
02:49:05,400 --> 02:49:08,490
Adam Curry: I don't want the
almost died. But luckily you

2808
02:49:08,490 --> 02:49:11,760
saved my life. I mean, that's.
That's boring. We need

2809
02:49:13,530 --> 02:49:15,930
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay.
Everyone out there who helps me

2810
02:49:16,020 --> 02:49:19,650
find these stories now knows
that Adam is picky? Yes, I am.

2811
02:49:19,770 --> 02:49:22,680
Well, it's not. He doesn't want
good news stories, which that

2812
02:49:22,680 --> 02:49:27,570
was I want the bad ones. Good.
Lame news stories.

2813
02:49:28,080 --> 02:49:31,740
Adam Curry: At least one a
month. I need one. That's

2814
02:49:31,740 --> 02:49:32,520
John C Dvorak: not a problem.

2815
02:49:33,690 --> 02:49:41,160
Unknown: All right. A good news
story from JCD happy vibes for

2816
02:49:41,160 --> 02:49:46,080
you and me and we all feel
better. Now. He's done his bit.

2817
02:49:46,530 --> 02:49:49,620
To back to reality. That's
turning to shit.

2818
02:49:50,790 --> 02:49:55,080
Adam Curry: I have a very good
news story. Good news. Good news

2819
02:49:55,080 --> 02:49:59,700
who people who are on the juice.
And when I say juice I mean the

2820
02:49:59,790 --> 02:50:04,110
me In the GLP juice, that's
right. Good news, everybody if

2821
02:50:04,110 --> 02:50:07,110
you're using the weight loss
drugs, good news. In our

2822
02:50:07,110 --> 02:50:09,840
Unknown: health cows today, the
use of semaglutide drugs, things

2823
02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:13,050
like ozempic, and we'll go V
don't appear to be associated

2824
02:50:13,050 --> 02:50:15,750
with any kind of a higher risk
of thinking about suicide.

2825
02:50:15,990 --> 02:50:19,350
compared to any other
medications. Researchers looked

2826
02:50:19,350 --> 02:50:22,440
at 100 million patient records
backed by the National

2827
02:50:22,440 --> 02:50:25,290
Institutes of Health. And
according to their findings, six

2828
02:50:25,290 --> 02:50:28,170
months after starting the meds,
people taking the drug to lose

2829
02:50:28,170 --> 02:50:32,160
weight had a 73% lower risk of
first time suicidal thoughts,

2830
02:50:32,370 --> 02:50:36,330
and a 56% lower risk of
recurrent suicidal thoughts. For

2831
02:50:36,330 --> 02:50:40,140
people with type two diabetes.
The reductions were 64 and 49%,

2832
02:50:40,140 --> 02:50:43,920
respectively. The lower risk
were also observed three years

2833
02:50:43,920 --> 02:50:47,430
out from taking the medications.
And these findings come just

2834
02:50:47,430 --> 02:50:50,610
days after the FDA said it was
going to review reports of

2835
02:50:50,610 --> 02:50:54,480
suicidal thoughts among people
using semaglutide and similar

2836
02:50:54,480 --> 02:50:56,430
medications. This good knows

2837
02:50:56,730 --> 02:51:01,920
Adam Curry: you don't want to
kill yourself. This is good. 70%

2838
02:51:02,040 --> 02:51:03,690
John C Dvorak: I know that was
an issue. I tell you. The

2839
02:51:03,690 --> 02:51:06,390
problem with that stuff was your
stomach froze up and your drop

2840
02:51:06,390 --> 02:51:06,840
dead.

2841
02:51:07,380 --> 02:51:09,150
Adam Curry: Well, if you don't
die, at least you won't be

2842
02:51:09,150 --> 02:51:13,230
killing yourself. It was good.
It's good. Everybody's happy. I

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02:51:13,230 --> 02:51:16,620
think it's and you know what,
there's even better news. I

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02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:21,180
mean, in America, we have I
think New Zealand's the only

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02:51:21,180 --> 02:51:28,350
other country that allows direct
consumer advertising of

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02:51:28,350 --> 02:51:33,720
pharmaceutical drugs. The old
America that is correct. New

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02:51:33,720 --> 02:51:37,260
Zealand doesn't really count. I
mean, yeah. But now they're

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02:51:37,260 --> 02:51:41,190
taking it one step further. This
is this is the ultimate. This is

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02:51:41,190 --> 02:51:44,340
the future. This is how they
really want to do it.

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02:51:44,370 --> 02:51:44,730
Interesting

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02:51:44,730 --> 02:51:46,050
Unknown: news today drugmaker,
Eli

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02:51:46,050 --> 02:51:49,620
Lilly launched a new online
service sending medications

2853
02:51:49,620 --> 02:51:54,000
directly to consumers. The new
service called Lilly direct will

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02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:57,450
ship the company's new anti
obesity drug to patients who

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02:51:57,450 --> 02:52:00,240
have a prescription and they
will also offer some of the

2856
02:52:00,240 --> 02:52:04,080
company's insulin drugs for
people with diabetes and a

2857
02:52:04,110 --> 02:52:06,450
migraine medication. Just

2858
02:52:06,450 --> 02:52:09,510
Adam Curry: send it just do
direct. We don't need we don't

2859
02:52:09,510 --> 02:52:13,230
need a pharmaceutical industry.
We just do a little telehealth

2860
02:52:13,440 --> 02:52:16,350
because you know how that is
like via you fill out a form on

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02:52:16,350 --> 02:52:21,750
the website. Yeah, yeah. You
don't need a doctor anymore.

2862
02:52:21,960 --> 02:52:24,660
Boy, you have to send a mail.
Yeah, they'll just they'll just

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02:52:24,690 --> 02:52:27,360
ask you a few questions fill out
the form boom, you've got a

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02:52:27,360 --> 02:52:32,160
prescription. This is what this
is great. I think they finally

2865
02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:36,420
got it should you'd think that
maybe it would be smart to go

2866
02:52:36,420 --> 02:52:39,420
check with a doctor you know,
make sure that your doctor feels

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02:52:39,420 --> 02:52:41,280
is appropriate for you. With

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02:52:41,280 --> 02:52:43,530
John C Dvorak: these guys having
the advantage of being able to

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02:52:43,530 --> 02:52:46,800
advertise in the one country in
the world it's allowed they

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02:52:46,800 --> 02:52:50,160
would bring everybody in and
share the wealth a little bit

2871
02:52:50,160 --> 02:52:54,300
but no, no now they decided to
take all the money themselves

2872
02:52:54,330 --> 02:52:57,090
they're asking for cruisin for a
bruisin here this

2873
02:52:57,090 --> 02:53:02,010
Adam Curry: by the way out it's
not even an American company is

2874
02:53:02,010 --> 02:53:05,100
it Novo Nordisk? No, you're
right yeah. No, this should be

2875
02:53:05,100 --> 02:53:08,640
illegal the screw and they're
screwing our business. They're

2876
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:11,970
screwing our drug business they
should be there should be some

2877
02:53:11,970 --> 02:53:16,050
for Bolton TO BE CUT CUT should
be exaggerated for Burb Bowden.

2878
02:53:16,860 --> 02:53:23,130
And then this is the worst tease
of the week. I mean, I've heard

2879
02:53:23,130 --> 02:53:29,490
bad teases. But this one is I
mean, if we did this, if we did

2880
02:53:29,490 --> 02:53:31,500
this people would be mad at us.

2881
02:53:31,890 --> 02:53:34,470
Unknown: Megyn Kelly, they'll
fascinating and we're not done

2882
02:53:34,470 --> 02:53:37,920
with Jeffrey Epstein. I can tell
you that for a fact. How I know.

2883
02:53:38,100 --> 02:53:40,320
But I can tell you for a fact.
We're going to hear a lot more

2884
02:53:40,320 --> 02:53:44,550
about Jeffrey Epstein in the
coming year. And you may be even

2885
02:53:44,550 --> 02:53:49,170
hearing from him directly. More
on that as I'm allowed to tell

2886
02:53:49,170 --> 02:53:49,320
you

2887
02:53:49,890 --> 02:53:51,450
Adam Curry: as I'm allowed to
tell you that I'm

2888
02:53:51,450 --> 02:53:55,560
John C Dvorak: allowed what is
allowed Paul Crozier who's

2889
02:53:55,560 --> 02:53:58,290
pulling your strings that she
has to be allowed. I

2890
02:53:58,290 --> 02:54:01,020
Adam Curry: don't like it. I
don't like it is not cool to do

2891
02:54:01,020 --> 02:54:06,630
that. As long as I'm allowed.
That's the worst he's ever asked

2892
02:54:06,630 --> 02:54:09,540
like he's at all that's like
clickbait Don't you think

2893
02:54:09,570 --> 02:54:12,840
John C Dvorak: you either? Can
you tell us tell us just call us

2894
02:54:13,530 --> 02:54:18,390
now can tell us what to do and
what to say no can't tell us

2895
02:54:18,390 --> 02:54:20,160
back on our show and call her
out. I

2896
02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:22,200
Adam Curry: have a feeling I'm
not going to be called anytime

2897
02:54:22,200 --> 02:54:30,210
soon. However, tomorrow I will
be doing the Tom Woods show. Tom

2898
02:54:30,210 --> 02:54:33,240
Woods that's right Tom Woods
show tomorrow everybody that

2899
02:54:33,240 --> 02:54:37,140
mean that it will I think it
takes takes a day or two before

2900
02:54:37,140 --> 02:54:40,350
he actually airs it but I look
forward to that. I like tom toms

2901
02:54:40,350 --> 02:54:45,900
a good good dude. He's a good
dude. Coming up next end of show

2902
02:54:45,900 --> 02:54:49,710
mixes Jesse coy Nelson sir TJ
the raffle with human resources

2903
02:54:49,710 --> 02:54:54,090
out Rolando Gonzalez. Up next a
another live show. This is an

2904
02:54:54,090 --> 02:54:57,390
important one you want to stay
tuned on your app or at troll

2905
02:54:57,390 --> 02:55:05,760
room.io It's the Battle of the
douche. bags live with Sir seeps

2906
02:55:05,760 --> 02:55:10,560
in her lavish blueberry and Nam,
I mean Hello. Could it get any

2907
02:55:10,560 --> 02:55:13,890
better? That's your no agenda
stream that's your troll room.

2908
02:55:13,890 --> 02:55:20,070
We love it and we will be back
on Thursday to bring you more

2909
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:23,010
media deconstruction coming to
you from the heart of the Texas

2910
02:55:23,010 --> 02:55:26,340
hill country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning

2911
02:55:26,340 --> 02:55:27,720
everybody I'm Adam curry

2912
02:55:27,810 --> 02:55:30,660
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain

2913
02:55:30,660 --> 02:55:34,050
without a phone I'm John C.
Dvorak. Please remember

2914
02:55:34,050 --> 02:55:37,890
Adam Curry: us we can use the
help DeVore act.org/na no agenda

2915
02:55:37,890 --> 02:55:42,810
donations.com until Thursday
everybody adios mofos or Hui

2916
02:55:42,810 --> 02:55:43,290
Hui?

2917
02:56:02,640 --> 02:56:05,880
Unknown: You might die not that
many of you are going to die so

2918
02:56:05,880 --> 02:56:18,270
don't worry about it go come on
me over show Come on. Come on

2919
02:56:18,300 --> 02:56:23,220
come on come on come on. Come
on. Come on. All right. God save

2920
02:56:23,220 --> 02:56:28,290
the Queen man. God save the
Queen man. God save the Queen

2921
02:56:28,290 --> 02:56:28,590
man

2922
02:56:33,180 --> 02:56:43,590
go NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO DON'T GO NO NO NO NO NO NO

2923
02:56:43,590 --> 02:56:45,090
NO NO NO NO NO NO DON'T

2924
02:56:46,350 --> 02:56:48,660
go alright. God save it

2925
02:56:54,330 --> 02:56:58,230
all over shown. Okay, girls,
what did we learn from today's

2926
02:56:58,230 --> 02:57:11,460
episode? I'm a proud night Oh
well, that's normally true but

2927
02:57:11,490 --> 02:57:16,560
anything else everything

2928
02:57:28,140 --> 02:57:38,130
they just lie like they've been
trying to control for your mind,

2929
02:57:38,190 --> 02:57:42,960
you will find it's all over
again. This is a scam.

2930
02:57:44,790 --> 02:57:45,870
Everything is

2931
02:57:45,900 --> 02:57:48,060
run by the CIA

2932
02:58:02,040 --> 02:58:04,200
Have you heard the show?
Everyone's talking? Are you

2933
02:58:04,200 --> 02:58:07,050
divorced, deconstructing? That's
a job pointing out stupidity

2934
02:58:07,170 --> 02:58:11,010
with an awesome no agenda. Just
lies lies and curried the more I

2935
02:58:11,010 --> 02:58:14,760
can show you why value for value
is their way of just for the

2936
02:58:14,760 --> 02:58:22,920
past 15 years and also produces
the best podcast slave

2937
02:58:37,980 --> 02:58:43,170
Adam Curry: scam no. That's a
scam. That's a scam.

2938
02:58:43,590 --> 02:58:48,960
John C Dvorak: It's a scandal to
me. This is a scam. To say

2939
02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:50,790
that's a massive scam. More

2940
02:58:50,790 --> 02:58:53,280
Unknown: people are entering the
United States illegally.

2941
02:58:53,760 --> 02:58:58,440
40% of them crossing are
families. 60% of adult men

2942
02:58:58,470 --> 02:59:00,360
arriving at the southern border
additional

2943
02:59:00,360 --> 02:59:03,930
enforcement actions are urgently
needed. CBP tells the outlet

2944
02:59:03,930 --> 02:59:07,380
that there have been 45,000
encounters at the border since

2945
02:59:07,380 --> 02:59:07,860
Monday.

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02:59:08,970 --> 02:59:12,990
The number of asylum seekers in
this town of Eagle Pass Eagle

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02:59:12,990 --> 02:59:13,410
Pass

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02:59:13,410 --> 02:59:17,490
Texas Eagle Pass Texas is one of
the busiest border entry points

2949
02:59:17,520 --> 02:59:18,600
in the country.

2950
02:59:18,630 --> 02:59:21,930
Hundreds of people were in the
cold to be processed by US

2951
02:59:21,930 --> 02:59:22,860
border officials.

2952
02:59:23,460 --> 02:59:26,190
Who is saying the system is
working as it should down there.

2953
02:59:26,280 --> 02:59:29,280
They want the highest day of
encounters ever recorded. I did

2954
02:59:29,280 --> 02:59:32,460
not know that many states are
heading for sanctuary cities is

2955
02:59:32,460 --> 02:59:35,100
going to be extremely painful
for New Yorkers. The mayor now

2956
02:59:35,100 --> 02:59:38,520
wants to cut half a billion
dollars from education in order

2957
02:59:38,550 --> 02:59:40,950
to deal with the influx of
illegal in recent

2958
02:59:40,950 --> 02:59:44,640
weeks for the police have been
recording almost 10,000 people

2959
02:59:44,640 --> 02:59:45,690
crossing the border

2960
02:59:45,720 --> 02:59:47,250
and we told us

2961
02:59:47,250 --> 02:59:50,700
they did not have the manpower
or the resources fly

2962
02:59:50,700 --> 02:59:54,390
we continue to say we need help.
Meanwhile, Texas is now

2963
02:59:54,390 --> 02:59:57,690
reportedly adding anti Climate
Technology to expensive

2964
02:59:57,990 --> 03:00:01,290
training immigration services.
You You need funding and they

2965
03:00:01,290 --> 03:00:04,020
need more for thanks very much.

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