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Adam Curry: Uh oh my God. Adam
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December 21 2023. This is your
award winning Kuma nation media

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assassination episode 1618. This
is no agenda, crossing the

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border up and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas hill

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country here in FEMA Region
number six. In the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry came

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where everybody

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agrees that perhaps the dumbest
and maybe the worst show in the

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history of television is the
masked singer. I'm John C.

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Dvorak skill. In the morning, in
the morning to you in the

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morning, everybody.

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Adam Curry: Why are you watching
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John C Dvorak: mean, not. That's
why I said it's showing the

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history of television. Okay,
just one. What is anybody watch

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it?

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Adam Curry: I don't know. If

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John C Dvorak: you watched Jenny
McCarthy go. Oh, my God. She's

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all she does on the show. Is she
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the judges.

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Adam Curry: Man. You know, that
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career.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it would
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Adam Curry: Oh, my Oh, my God.
She does you imagine, you know,

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getting old? You know, Vijay,
the only people over 45 know who

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you are. And that's all you got
is you're gonna be a judge on

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some shows.

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John C Dvorak: Based probably
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Yeah. Well, hmm. Especially
after this fantastic promotion

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we did for the Golden Circle or
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Adam Curry: was actually, there
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Netflix published its numbers
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hours viewed numbers yet?

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John C Dvorak: No. Yeah, they do
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viewed they have this crazy. Not
the way their system is just

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nuts. Right? They can, they can
nail it to the obvious to the

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minute. So

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Adam Curry: James Cridland who
does pod news. He's nice. He's

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does a daily show. And he he's a
numbers guy. Because of course,

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the podcast industrial complex
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worry, it's all going up more
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great. And so he put together
this calculator because we

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publish our our stats on this
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we know that we have eight
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to the show. And so he took that
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Netflix numbers. And as it turns
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93% of any shows on Netflix. I
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Netflix on average, people pay
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if you break it all down into
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much they pay per month. Man if
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John C Dvorak: everybody Yeah,
well, that's we do have some

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people that do pay that. Well,
yeah, but contribute that to the

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show. But it's only 1% 2% of the
total. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: If only if only
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John C Dvorak: Netflix has a
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to make it even partially work.
Everybody else is struggling

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Adam Curry: Struggling with
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John C Dvorak: I think the
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struggling with streaming is
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the model. Yeah, they did a good
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base and turning into stream
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Adam Curry: Remember, they had
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John C Dvorak: was and the other
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So what are you gonna do to one
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And I would call this tech in
Tech where the first guy got in

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first dominated dominant.
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the second or third Gale
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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. So I was
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one has heard no one has
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John C Dvorak: No, you actually
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because you did the pocket. The
podcasting. 2.0 is something

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that should get you a Nobel
Peace Prize.

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Adam Curry: So just since you
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the first value for value
concert. And people were using

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the modern apps and they were
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think the artists Ainsley
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for value works. It really does.

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John C Dvorak: Well, how much
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Adam Curry: He's talking about
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even do a live streaming
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going to pay you for that. No,
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again. Nicer there live from
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stuff. It's exciting. Anyway,
this whole what's poppin right

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now that everyone in my neck of
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woods is talking about is these
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them asylum seekers, illegal
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that on social media people have
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flown to other countries, other
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John C Dvorak: has been going on
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sudden that that those those
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documented people will take
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these flights being filled.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, but now it's
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buying seats from Delta and
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class seats and people are
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getting bumped from the flights
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who are getting these these
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premium seating. I mean, you can
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migrants as you want illegal
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you start bumping people off of
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This is this is where Americans
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be here illegally, whatever, but
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this is mainly coming from
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people. Tickets typically
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departure because whoever buys
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purchase tickets making the
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very profitable for the
airlines. This is why they don't

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get bounced. They also do not
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John C Dvorak: is costing the
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Adam Curry: We still we got a we
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note boots on the ground. Nice.
We'll just get right into it.

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I've got a couple of clips to
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I'm an officer with TSA San
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background with TSA is with the
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the insider threat teams. So
this is not just some rando

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who's yelling at you about your
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John C Dvorak: guys is looking
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Adam Curry: Exactly. What's the
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Man. He's twitching all over the
place. Pull him over. I have 10

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years of experience with
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the traveling public and fought
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you'd like I've earned my
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some authority. Yes, sir. Oh,
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There are hundreds or her there
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a year now. And recently I've
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exactly as assisting with these
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services and Jewish Family
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guide large groups from the bus
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right onto their departing
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assume were volunteers caught my
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the summer because of their
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young male TSOs of the time they
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without any asylum seekers in
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the girls that was speaking to a
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and was able to conclude these
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contracts and employees with an
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this group, they're well
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government through many avenues
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COVID vaccine rollout these guys
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military contractor of their
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for the asylum seeker manual, I
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conclusions. I think this im
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keep control of them with
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even with with even judicial
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dates have been confirmed to be
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is how it's working. So all this
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sure. And in fact, Texas is
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since Chicago has been
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Unknown: It was a private plane
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Department of Emergency
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migrants here to Chicago Tuesday
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landed at O'Hare Airport around
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Governor Greg Abbott's
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plane saying, because Mayor
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a city's welcoming city
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buses from Texas. We are
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include flights to Chicago like
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been doing across the country.
So President Biden has steps up

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and does his jobs to secure the
border Texas will continue

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taking historic action to help
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the Biden nade crisis. Governor
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has blessed nearly 83,000
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Chicago has received more than
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interview with Wu TTW Mayor
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governor of Texas determined to
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that the Latino Caucus will join
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on this morning to demand more
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government I should say in
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Adam Curry: So everyone's
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what he did was obviously, what
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performative with this. Show me
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Unknown: governor of Texas, Greg
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today that lets local police
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border illegally. It also lets
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the country. Opponents say it
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authority over immigration.
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administration isn't doing
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Adam Curry: we got rob our
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immediately is all over this so
we have a good breakdown of what

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what the law is actually three
bills. It's not just one, which

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is worth breaking down. Three
state law bills. three bills the

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first allows Texas law
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suspected illegals and judges to
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course, calling this the show me
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funds the wall, along with
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like Houston and the third bill
ups the penalty for being a

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coyote or running a stash house
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imprisonment to 10. And this law
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immediately challenged in court,
the ACLU filed a suit

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representing loss Americans
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Center American gateways and El
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overrun with illegal
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you. We love it. I know what's
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course, they're sort of they've
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injunction precluding Texas from
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declaratory judgment decreeing
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unconstitutional, which it
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stated they will seek a
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them over all the case proceeds
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lawyer, they'll probably be a
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play out over the next year,
they need to file a cert

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petition with the Supreme Court.
So this will go to the Supreme

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Court in the meantime, this is
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distraction. So we don't pay
attention to Israel. Don't pay

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attention to Hunter Biden, don't
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falling down. I mean, it's
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John C Dvorak: anti sell down
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Adam Curry: You would know
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talking about Trump or this and
I have to border clips. Okay.

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And then I have a couple of
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John C Dvorak: have some Texas
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Adam Curry: Oh, it's one of our
favorites. Oops.

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Unknown: This is in D. D.
Biden's deliberate inaction, has

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left Texas to fend for itself.

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Texas Governor Greg Abbott on
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officials the ability to arrest
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unlawfully keeps the federal
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immigration laws.

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Adam Curry: And this guy sounds
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don't you think little Yes,
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John C Dvorak: funny. This is
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very German looking guy No
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doesn't look quite like his
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Unknown: It's interesting from
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that it illegally bars
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asylum. Mexican president Andres
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is also preparing to challenge
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To tell our fellow countrymen
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defending them. Texas governor
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to be the vice president
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Party in the United States. And
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Republican footage from Eagle
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1000s of immigrants trying to
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new law is set to take effect in
March. In other Texas related

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news, a razor wire fence is
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southern border for now. A
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temporarily blocked the Biden
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Adam Curry: I will point out
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place March 5, which is the
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the Republican primaries. So
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all political. It's all
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read a bill to you which I think
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here. What is your second clip
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Unknown: Back in October, the
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administration for cutting
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wire. And lastly, illegal
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international trade. business
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pressing the government to
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Monday because They're
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Commerce says shutting down road
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Paso will inflict significant
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Adam Curry: Dalia, there's going
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to be horrible. And I have a
couple of short clips here from

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Democrat representatives. Who
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they I think the American public
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everyone's sick of it everybody
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sanctuary cities, they see it,
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If you have if people haven't
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for their wedding parties,
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and by the way, the language is
asylum seekers, migrants,

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there's very little illegal
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being said, this is Jasmine
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Unknown: today concern because
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gotten immigration. Right.
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There's not very much that the
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general. And so to basically say
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security, as relates to how
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allies should be tied to this
mangled immigration process is

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absolutely insane. I mean, when
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Abbott, my governor, and his
solution, his solution is to

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basically say, Hey, we're gonna
kill people that are trying to

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come in, like, that's not a
solution, like the Republicans

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don't have the solutions. They
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aid that is going to aid but
they're border security. Well, I

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mean, who's gonna sign up for
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worth anything?

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Adam Curry: She's dumb. All
right. She represents the state

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of Texas.

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John C Dvorak: Boy, she is.
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Adam Curry: dumb. Here's Jaya
Paul, who is it was very

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concerned that you know, because
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Now. Remember, the whole idea is
no aid for Ukraine, no aid for

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Israel aid. This is called aid,
no bombs for Israel, no bombs

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for Ukraine. And Toby, fix the
border? Well, Joe, better not do

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that. That question that you get
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agree to these changes. He's

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Unknown: gonna there's going to
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together a coalition that is the
same coalition we delivered in

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2020. For him to win the White
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And for us to kick back the
House. And that coalition

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involves a lot of young voters.
It involves a lot of immigrant

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voters involves a lot of folks
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Adam Curry: Immigrant voters,
yeah, yeah. Oh, she said the

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quiet part out loud there,
didn't she? We need immigrant

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voters, but almost almost as
stupid. As Debbie Dingell. What

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a great name. I like the angle
Debbie Dingell. I feel bad. She

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wants waves put

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Unknown: us your response when
he says that the border is

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broken under President Biden
orders been broken was broken

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under Donald Trump as well. Or
immigration reform. We need a

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comprehensive immigration reform
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you've got small business
clamoring for people we've

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talked caregiving, which is in
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bring some ways people need to
be we don't want illegals. We

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don't want other people coming
in. We don't want drugs coming

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across our border. We need a
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immigration policy.

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Adam Curry: Okay, first of all,
whenever someone when someone

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says comprehensive immigration
reform, they're full of crap,

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because all you need to do is
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But she literally sits there and
says we need caregivers. We need

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Maria to take care of our kids.

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Unknown: Come on. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: I mean, gardeners,
gardeners, yes, please. More

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slabs.

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John C Dvorak: And we need who's
going to take care who's going

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to clean our toilets? Yeah. One
of the ladies on the views.

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Adam Curry: Do we still have
that clip? I wonder who

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John C Dvorak: know it was I
think it was sunny Hostin who

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said that. I'm going to be there
Navarro.

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Adam Curry: I wonder if we have
that. I can't find it offhand.

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Anyway. Now we have, oh, this is
another Jim, Becca Baylands.

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balance balance. Well,
obviously, it's obvious what's

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Unknown: So we've got the
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Johnson is not somebody who has
seriousness of purpose. He

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doesn't understand the stakes.
When you pull out 40,000 feet,

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you see someone that is
essentially doing who is

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bidding. It's

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Adam Curry: doing potent work,
okay. He's doing Putin's

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bidding. Yes, yes. These she has
a good term in here that we've

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Unknown: got a situation here
where speaker Johnson is not

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somebody who has seriousness of
purpose. He doesn't he

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Adam Curry: doesn't have
seriousness of purpose, whatever

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that means. i It's DC gobbly
gook. And then of course,

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another Democrat. representative
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Joaquin Castro,

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Unknown: I want to speak quickly
to the Democrats in the Senate

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and others who are considering
supporting this proposal. If you

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do so, you will be surrendering
to right wing racism. There it

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is. And more than that, you will
be enabling it.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Racist. Oh, and
rolling it even Yes, racism. Now

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this is this not I do have an
issue myself with the idea of

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show me your papers. Because
then this has happened to me in

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Texas. We discussed that many
years ago, when I drove from

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California, when I fled
California to Texas, within 100

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miles of the border this
checkpoints, show me your papers

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was is not cool. I don't like
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way to to solve this. You know,
obviously, the federal

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government needs to not allow
people in anymore at these non

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non approved crossings, it just
has to stop the laws are on the

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books. Just stop, stop, stop. So

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John C Dvorak: I don't
understand this. Show me your

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papers and obviously didn't
work?

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Adam Curry: Well, no, because,
well, it works to some degree.

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But it was still. The catch and
release is the policy. That's

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what's changed. It's the policy,
not the law. The law is no you

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can't come in. And if you just
can't be if you don't have the

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right paperwork. And by the way,
you also need all kinds of

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vaccinations to emigrate to, or
at least proof of vaccinations

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to immigrate to America, but I
know this process, but this

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racism part. Ah, that's the one
that's catching fire. I don't

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watch sports ball TV. But
Stephen A Smith, I believe he's

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using ESPN guy. Yeah, yeah.
Well, of course, ESPN is where

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you go to hear about politics.

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Unknown: Greg Abbott, you ever
heard of him? He's the governor

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for the state of Texas on
Monday, that governor Governor

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Abbott signed a bill into law
that will allow the police to

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arrest migrants who entered the
US illegally. This law which

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takes effect in March allows any
Texas law enforcement officer to

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arrest people who are suspected
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illegally. That's what we're
going to do to our Latino

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brothers and sisters. It's
racist. Somebody needs to say it

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so I'm gonna say it's a racist
as thing to do. suspicion.

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Suspect suspected of entering
the country illegally, how can

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you be suspected of entering the
country illegally? So you

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chillin in downtown Dallas, or
Houston? You hanging out with a

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bunch of folks, you're speaking
Spanish instead English. Your

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clothes might not be a Tom Ford
suit or something. You might not

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be wearing a Jordan sweat suit.
You might look a little poor and

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impoverished, a bit heading
haggard, you're haphazard. Those

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things might you might not look
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They can literally labeled that
as suspicion to justify

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arresting you not questioning
you. Not asking for an ID. They

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literally can arrest you. What a
disgrace. And the thing, I love

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this state from the standpoint
that it's got no state income

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taxes. You got beautiful cities
like Dallas and Houston and

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Austin, Texas. I'm looking
forward to being in the city

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like that someday. And then I
see a governor like this doing

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this kind of nonsense. It's a
damn disgrace. It really really

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Adam Curry: Calm down, calm
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John C Dvorak: Make this make
one thing clear, since you don't

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watch sports ball. He's a
representative of the Walt

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Disney Company.

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Adam Curry: Well, that's ESPN
bspa Is is owned by Disney.

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John C Dvorak: This very racy
Disney for giving us politics in

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the middle of what we what we
care about, which is sports.

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Adam Curry: He he's racist,
because it's Chinese. It's

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Africans as a lot of it's not
just brown people coming across

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the border, okay. But those days
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So, so they're there. Now, I
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me. I'm like, so of course this
bill is going to be challenged.

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happen. But I can see where they

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can do the stash houses. Yeah,
that'll probably that'll

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probably stay okay. But this is
all politics. And it both

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parties are against you and me
going against Americans. Chuck

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Schumer is like, yeah, we got to
do this. Yeah, we got to figure

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this one out. With the minute
you get Lindsey Graham, who kick

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this off saying no, I'm not
gonna until we get some border

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stuff. We gotta get the border.
That was a that was a tip off

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that something is up. So when I
see Chuck Schumer saying, Yeah,

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we got to we got to do this. So
now instead of just saying,

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adhere to the policy, we already
have stopped people from coming

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in. But no, there's a bill.
There's a bill. And I don't know

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if this is going to be the final
bill. But this is what Chuck

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Schumer has been working on. I'm
going to read from some papers

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that he has filed. He's even put
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And this is what they really
want. This is why both parties

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want this somehow magically.
This will prohibit the Secretary

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of Homeland Security from
processing applications for

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registered provisional immigrant
status. This is the RPi until

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the secretary submitted to
Congress the notice of

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commencement of implementation
of the comprehensive southern

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border security strategy, and
the southern border fencing

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strategy. So here we go. The
comprehensive southern border

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security strategy includes the
minimum technological

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requirements specified, so
they're gonna do all kinds of

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Get ready as little robots Yeah,
get ready for the money, money,

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money, money, money, money. The
southern border fencing strategy

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will include no fewer than 700
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Hello, wall. Thanks, Democrats
are fighting Trump on that. But

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here's the one, a mandatory
employment verification system

449
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to be used by all employers to
prevent unauthorized workers

450
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from attaining us employment.
They've been trying this for

451
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years, this is your universal
ID. This is everyone has to have

452
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one. You can't work without your
papers. Without your Shami, your

453
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official ID. This is what they
want both parties. In addition,

454
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the mandatory exit data system,
another thing they've been

455
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wanting for decades. We want to
know when you come in, we want

456
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to know when you leave, we want
to stop you from leaving you

457
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slaves. These people are
horrible. In addition to that

458
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:17,250
38,405 new full train full time
active duty US Border Patrol

459
00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:23,100
agents, probably for more
processing. They don't care.

460
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:28,290
They want slaves to do to clean
your toilet. They want slaves to

461
00:27:28,290 --> 00:27:31,050
look after your kids to look
after their own kids. They want

462
00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:34,710
slaves to come in and vote
Democrat preferably but they'll

463
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:38,040
take Republicans will take it.
They want you to have papers

464
00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:43,350
they want they are they are just
making a big deal a big show.

465
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And they're abusing these these
people who had been told to come

466
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on to America. It's great. And
and they've done the same thing

467
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in Europe. This thing, this is a
global issue. It's and by the

468
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way, it's called the migration
replacement strategy. It was

469
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United Nations strategy we you
can find it the document in the

470
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show notes implemented in 2000.
written up everyone's like,

471
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Okay, this is great. Replacing
people in Western countries,

472
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with people from other
countries. This has always been

473
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the idea always been the
strategy and the EU oil oh,

474
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we're all against it. Yeah, this
is no good. But now, now we have

475
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a new deal for the European
Union.

476
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Unknown: The content of this
compromise today paves the way

477
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for a really a reinforcement of
the controls at the borders,

478
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which means that even families
comprising children could be put

479
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into closed centers in order for
their asylum requests to be

480
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processed. So far, so good. The
other thing is that will now be

481
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a eu wide asylum procedure,
putting aside all the national

482
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asylum laws, which are taking in
which are in effect today. The

483
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other thing is also that there
will be and that is the real

484
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stepping stone of this
agreement. There will be a

485
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common approach on the
solidarity in case of a massive

486
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influx of migrants of
solidarity,

487
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Adam Curry: just in case just in
case. There's a massive influx

488
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of migrants on the off chance
that might happen. They're

489
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planning this on

490
00:29:29,250 --> 00:29:33,450
Unknown: the solidarity in case
of a massive influx of migrants,

491
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there will be compulsory
solidarity, meaning that EU

492
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member states even those which
have no access to an external

493
00:29:41,250 --> 00:29:46,110
border of the EU will have
either to taking asylum seekers

494
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have to provide with a financial
contribution. financial

495
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:54,570
agreement has been reached
within this compromise. So

496
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,780
Adam Curry: you will take
migrants every single country in

497
00:29:57,780 --> 00:30:01,320
the EU doesn't matter when they
come in. We are solidarity now

498
00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:06,420
all you got to pay wages to give
a pay. This is crazy. The whole

499
00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:08,190
world has gone nuts. And that

500
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Unknown: is a main point here.
The point being obviously this

501
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,020
is a trade in a trade off. The
other point being that the

502
00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:19,650
external borders are going to be
heavily reinforced.

503
00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:24,420
Adam Curry: So it's it's come on
in everybody. Come on over,

504
00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:27,300
you'll be able to find lots of
countries where you will be

505
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:31,410
placed. This is the elites they
don't care.

506
00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:37,620
John C Dvorak: The safe mobility
they're not doing this in Asia

507
00:30:37,650 --> 00:30:41,670
by any means. No, even though
they could because China's

508
00:30:41,670 --> 00:30:49,230
having a population issue with
the aging public. So what do

509
00:30:49,230 --> 00:30:52,890
they hope to accomplish? What's
what is the what is the endgame

510
00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:57,270
here? Okay, just to replace all
whities with everything under

511
00:30:57,270 --> 00:31:02,460
the sun and then enslave them
because the I guess the what the

512
00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:07,200
the Texas hill country folk
won't be rode do what they're

513
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,640
told. We

514
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,240
Adam Curry: go back to the
former New York banker. Every

515
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,630
single person they can add, they
can print more money, they want

516
00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:19,500
to print more money, they want
universal basic income. And yes,

517
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:24,420
they want obedient workers
obedient workers. Of course,

518
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,600
keep the cost down of
everything, keep people

519
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,730
obedient, keep them in limbo for
as long as possible. And, and we

520
00:31:32,730 --> 00:31:36,840
beat China as long as we've
we've already we've already

521
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,170
castrated our children. We've
scared everybody with climate

522
00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:42,930
change. We have to keep growing.
So we might as well get someone

523
00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:55,620
in the United Nations Office of
immigration migration has a safe

524
00:31:55,620 --> 00:32:00,390
mobility initiative. And they
will help you they and you can

525
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:03,660
sign right up on the website. We
have Cubans Haitians,

526
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:10,800
Venezuelans in Colombia if you
if you want to travel safely and

527
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,920
lawfully to the United States,
we have a program for that

528
00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:17,070
Nicaraguan Venezuelan nationals
in Costa Rica. If you got there

529
00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:20,010
before June 12. We can help you
move safely into the United

530
00:32:20,010 --> 00:32:22,890
States of Costa Rica. Then we
have Cubans Haitians

531
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Nicaraguans, Venezuelans
Colombians in Ecuador on or

532
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:30,540
before October 18 2023. No
problem we'll bring you in

533
00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:34,470
Guatemala nationals if you're in
Guatemala, we can help you

534
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:38,310
travel safely and lawfully to
the United States. These are our

535
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:43,440
own people against us. Yeah, and
I know it sounds

536
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,790
counterintuitive, but they're
they just see us all as pawns

537
00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:55,500
peons you know as numbers. So
yes, that's the idea.

538
00:32:58,620 --> 00:33:02,670
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
enlightening report. Lift a for

539
00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:06,300
Christmas spirit, your Christmas
spirit must be flying high.

540
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:11,130
Adam Curry: So along with this,
of course, we have to my

541
00:33:11,130 --> 00:33:17,040
Christmas spirit is is very
high. Along with this comes, you

542
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,660
know, the obvious we have to
make everything about the the

543
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:27,210
far right. This is this, this
whole thing is very irksome. The

544
00:33:27,210 --> 00:33:33,600
far right of everything is the
far right. And me see the news

545
00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:40,080
agents. So this was the report
in in the UK, the news ages, I'd

546
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,040
like this podcast. These are
very well established, very well

547
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,610
known mainstream journalists.
And they do their own podcast

548
00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:50,520
very popular. What's the name of
it? The news agents. We've

549
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,450
talked about it before. The news
agency is huge, very popular

550
00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:57,450
podcast. And they're the people
who have interviewed all the

551
00:33:57,450 --> 00:34:00,870
heads of state and to do kind of
like a newsroom type thing. So

552
00:34:00,870 --> 00:34:05,610
now here it is. The news agents
investigate the rise of the far

553
00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:06,660
right.

554
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:09,870
Unknown: News agents
investigates.

555
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:19,260
My comments no surprise for the
far right have won the elections

556
00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:20,280
in Italy. The

557
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,850
Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor
Orban has secured a fourth

558
00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:27,450
consecutive landslide election
victory. Europe's

559
00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:30,450
nationalist wave has arrived in
Spain.

560
00:34:31,019 --> 00:34:34,319
Marine LePen has perhaps never
been as close to power. The

561
00:34:34,319 --> 00:34:35,759
latest polls indicate

562
00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:39,330
this year's poll has been shaken
up by a surge in popularity of

563
00:34:39,330 --> 00:34:43,110
the Euro skeptic and for right
Sweden and democratic movement.

564
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,890
Something is stirring across
Europe during tonic change to

565
00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:53,340
our politics to where the
balance of our politics sits.

566
00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:57,510
From the Netherlands to Italy to
France to Germany to Ireland,

567
00:34:57,510 --> 00:35:01,950
the UK, Hungary beyond radical
Both elements of the right even

568
00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:06,180
far right once consigned to the
fringes of political life, our

569
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:09,780
growing growing number in
Parliament's in power, we are

570
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:12,270
not just for power, the sort of
power you get from winning

571
00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:14,730
elections, though they're
winning plenty of those. It's

572
00:35:14,730 --> 00:35:18,660
the power to shape how we think
the power to channel the online

573
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:22,440
world, the power to move the
center of political debate, to

574
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,710
the point where they don't even
seem extreme anymore, that they

575
00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:30,270
become normal or mainstream when
they're neither. On this episode

576
00:35:30,270 --> 00:35:33,510
of the news agents investigate
the rise of the far right, the

577
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:36,810
collapse of the center. Why
liberal democracy is under

578
00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:37,980
siege. It's

579
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,510
Adam Curry: under siege. How
about this? How about was this a

580
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:45,510
John C Dvorak: good podcast? It
sounds like a melodramatic piece

581
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:47,010
of crap. Well,

582
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:51,630
Adam Curry: depends on who's
listening to it. Yeah. But these

583
00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:53,610
this is the establishment that's
what you're hearing the

584
00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:57,870
establishment is is incensed
that out they outraged we can't

585
00:35:57,870 --> 00:36:01,800
believe the far right is, you
know, like normal people who are

586
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,380
like, Hey, we're sick of this
crap. We're sick of it. We're

587
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:07,620
sick of it. We don't want it
anymore. We're sick of all of

588
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:14,010
you. And then you get the fringe
far, right? Yeah. Now, they'll

589
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:18,300
fight it every single step of
the way. Of course, there's just

590
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:20,430
it's, it's these

591
00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:23,970
John C Dvorak: these is what was
once called useful idiots.

592
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,600
During the communist era,
they're still out there doing

593
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,340
the bidding of people that whose
whose best interest they're not

594
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:34,650
in the best interest of the
people actually doing these

595
00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:38,130
sorts of reporting. In other
words, you know, you're selling

596
00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:41,490
yourself out. Yeah, for all
practical purposes with some of

597
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:44,190
this bull crap. And if Okay,

598
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:47,970
Adam Curry: and of course, when
it comes to immigration, we we

599
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:52,770
can't leave out former President
Trump. Because remember, he is

600
00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:56,610
Hitler. Because because it
worked so well in 2015, calling

601
00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:59,880
him Hitler that really stopped
people from voting for him. So

602
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,930
let's do it again. Now, we do
have a little twist, because

603
00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:06,870
President Trump is now
explaining he splaining what

604
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:10,260
he's meant by poisoning of the
blood. He's changed it to point

605
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,770
poisoning the country. But I
mean, come on people, former

606
00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:17,070
Unknown: President Trump
continues to use fascist

607
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,050
language, that dehumanizes
immigrants. Here's what he said

608
00:37:22,050 --> 00:37:23,400
last night in Iowa.

609
00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:29,820
We have no idea who any of them
are. They come from Africa. They

610
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:34,620
come from Asia. They come from
South America. And it's true

611
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:37,170
that destroying the blood of our
country, that's what they're

612
00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:40,530
doing. They're destroying our
country. They don't like it when

613
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:46,110
I said that. And I never read
minecon they sit in a much

614
00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:49,320
different way. Now they're
coming from all over the world,

615
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,650
people all over the world. We
have no idea. They could be

616
00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:55,320
healthy, they could be very
unhealthy. They could bring in

617
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,410
disease that's going to catch on
in our country, but they do

618
00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:02,100
bring in crime. But they have
him coming from all over the

619
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:05,790
world. And they're destroying
the blood of our country that

620
00:38:05,790 --> 00:38:10,380
destroying the fabric of our
country. And we're gonna have to

621
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:11,010
get him out.

622
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:15,390
Adam Curry: He's a fascist,
fascist language, which

623
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:18,510
according to Jake Tapper is
doing something completely

624
00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:22,380
different. What else works so
well in 20 with throughout his

625
00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:25,830
entire presidency, was another
thing that the media did.

626
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:29,850
Russia. Was it Russia? I think
it was Russia. Let's see if we

627
00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:30,150
can be

628
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:31,470
John C Dvorak: Russia's
involved. Yeah, I

629
00:38:31,470 --> 00:38:32,250
Adam Curry: think Hello.

630
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:38,190
Unknown: Listen to this. Hello.
I'm Jake Tapper in Washington,

631
00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:42,240
where the state of our union is
frankly, stunned. Stop watching

632
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,370
the leading Republican
presidential candidate Donald

633
00:38:44,370 --> 00:38:48,690
Trump. quote one of our nation's
foremost adversaries Oh, no,

634
00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:52,260
remember Putin as a sort of
character witness while on the

635
00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:53,670
stock in New Hampshire last

636
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:54,630
Adam Curry: night. Oh, no.

637
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,020
Unknown: of Russia says that
Biden's and this is a quote

638
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:04,050
politically motivated
persecution of his political

639
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:07,950
rival is very good for Russia
because it shows the rottenness

640
00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:11,820
of the American political
system, which cannot pretend to

641
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:13,800
teach others about democracy.

642
00:39:15,390 --> 00:39:20,280
One might think such a point
need not be made. But what?

643
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:25,320
Adam Curry: What Jake Tapper,
okay, he's right, but you don't

644
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,880
have to say it out loud.

645
00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:31,890
Unknown: Wow. One might think
such a point need not be made.

646
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:38,880
But, but Lattimer Putin, a
former KGB official. Besides

647
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,970
with American He's a war
criminal adversaries both

648
00:39:41,970 --> 00:39:45,510
rhetorically and with arms, and
who right now has at least two

649
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:49,470
Americans Evan Grishko. Butch
and Paul Whelan unjustly

650
00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:53,820
detained. Vladimir Putin is not
a credible source of information

651
00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:56,850
about American democracy know
much less American

652
00:39:57,090 --> 00:40:01,260
jurisprudence. Vladimir Putin
seeks to undermined the United

653
00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:03,900
States and its allies, whether
in Europe or Asia or the Middle

654
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:07,680
East. He's undermining. Despite
this or maybe by now because of

655
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,920
it, I can no longer tell. Mr.
Trump stands poised to do very

656
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,770
well in the Republican Iowa
caucuses on January 15. In less

657
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:15,660
than a month he has only
expanded his lead

658
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:19,680
Adam Curry: go unless unless he
gets kicked off of the ballot in

659
00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:24,210
Colorado. This This really makes
us look good internationally.

660
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:33,240
This is good. This thing people
in in Colorado Are you Are you

661
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,340
not a little mad about this?

662
00:40:35,790 --> 00:40:38,400
John C Dvorak: Hey there bunch
of Democrats Colorado's

663
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,290
ridiculously blue, I have a mini
cut of the Colorado some some

664
00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:45,540
people talking heads discussing
this.

665
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:48,240
Unknown: This is not a crazy
thing for democracy to do. It's

666
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:52,740
very much like the reasoning of
the conservative legal

667
00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:53,460
community.

668
00:40:53,490 --> 00:40:57,210
The conservatives on the Supreme
Court who usually go on and on

669
00:40:57,210 --> 00:40:59,700
and on about states rights are

670
00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:03,870
hypocrites. He was an enemy of
the Constitution, simply a plain

671
00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:05,940
reading of the US Constitution.

672
00:41:05,970 --> 00:41:08,070
This is not partisan. This is
about applying historic

673
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principles. What do you say

674
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to the to the Republican
candidates argument that

675
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this should be the voters should
have the say and

676
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not the courts?

677
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:22,380
Adam Curry: Why are you standing
with Confederate veterans

678
00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:23,820
Unknown: betrayed this country?

679
00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:26,760
Adam Curry: Oh, that's great.
Okay, I got a couple of clips

680
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,130
here. This is MSNBC filed

681
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Unknown: from the historic
Colorado Supreme Court ruling

682
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:35,340
continues this morning. One day
after the panel of judges there

683
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ruled that Donald Trump was
disqualified from the state's

684
00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:42,930
2024 primary ballot because of
his role in the January 6 attack

685
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on the Capitol. President Biden
made his first remarks about the

686
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decision in the lock yesterday.
The President initially refused

687
00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:53,310
to comment. But he did say this
when asked if Trump supported an

688
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:54,000
insurrection?

689
00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:00,150
Well, I think it's self evident
whether the fortune five will

690
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:02,490
have to coordinate that
decision, but he certainly

691
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supported insurrection. And no
question about zero seems to be

692
00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:13,200
doubling down on anyway. I've
got to go through this.

693
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,270
Adam Curry: Anyway, I gotta go
see if I can walk up the steps

694
00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:19,830
from our constitutional lawyer
technical analysis, which is

695
00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:22,500
always handy to have so you can
look smarter the water cooler.

696
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,970
The Colorado Supreme Court has
stayed its decision ie put it on

697
00:42:26,970 --> 00:42:32,580
ice, because it knows Trump will
seek cert to your certiorari,

698
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:36,720
certiorari, which I think is
something from Star Trek. The

699
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,380
State last through January
4 2024. But it automatically

700
00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:44,100
extends if Trump files a cert
petition, which he said he will

701
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:47,700
do. Once the petition is on
file. It remains in place until

702
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:51,360
the Supreme Court of the US
either denies the cert or

703
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,500
accepts the case and rules on
the merits. Our constitutional

704
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:58,680
lawyer says I think Trump is
likely to persuade four justices

705
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,130
to grant cert. But who knows if
he does, then the state will

706
00:43:02,130 --> 00:43:05,760
remain in place as long as the
case remains pending. Meanwhile,

707
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,060
the Colorado Secretary of State
must keep Trump on the primary

708
00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:13,380
ballot. The primary happens
March 5 2024. So if Trump can

709
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:16,470
run the clock out for two and a
half months, and if the Supreme

710
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:19,770
Court of the US grants assert,
which seems likely he can render

711
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:23,010
the whole thing moot, the
Colorado Supreme Court justices

712
00:43:23,010 --> 00:43:25,680
likely foresaw this and just
wanted to get their thoughts on

713
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,420
paper. So again, performative
nothing to worry about nothing

714
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:35,040
to see here. But of course, we
have New York trying to do this

715
00:43:35,070 --> 00:43:41,310
a couple other states. These
people are stupid. Do they think

716
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:44,970
that this will not only make
people more for Trump?

717
00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:49,350
John C Dvorak: They don't
understand the mechanism. This

718
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:52,140
Adam Curry: they certainly don't
they think, but this is kind of

719
00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:58,110
the arrogance of the elites in
our country. But you know, we

720
00:43:58,110 --> 00:44:01,740
know how to do the legal system.
People in America are sick and

721
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:04,680
tired of the legal system.
They're sick and tired of the

722
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,950
IRS. They're sick and tired of
being badgered sick and tired of

723
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:12,510
everything and then you just got
to get this guy back in office.

724
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:16,560
And then trust me the
Republicans are going to cheat

725
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,310
like crazy this election they're
gonna cheat cheat cheat like

726
00:44:20,310 --> 00:44:21,570
everyone else tell everybody

727
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,310
John C Dvorak: the both sides
are gonna cheat. Of course they

728
00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:26,880
change who's the better cheater
I still think is the Democrats.

729
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,180
I think they're more competent
at it they have more machinery

730
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:33,480
they had the machine it was
called a machine machine you're

731
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,210
talking about the machine in
Chicago for example always gets

732
00:44:36,210 --> 00:44:40,260
Democrats in it says the machine
is literally a machine is

733
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:44,460
mechanism that works to get
these votes into the into play

734
00:44:44,490 --> 00:44:48,750
Adam Curry: here is that I have
two clips here. an expert's an

735
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:53,880
American expert explains the
14th amendment on France 24. The

736
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,390
14th

737
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:58,320
Unknown: amendment was passed in
the wake of the Civil War, which

738
00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:04,080
as a Everybody, more or less
nose was fought between the

739
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,900
states in the war succession.
It's literally called in the

740
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:11,070
French translation of it,
because half the country, more

741
00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:14,190
or less the southern states
wanted to secede from the Union,

742
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,380
because they objected to notably
the institution of slavery being

743
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:24,420
banned at the federal level. So
after that, when the cut when

744
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:27,420
the North one in the country was
reunified, the South was

745
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:30,570
considered traitorous. They were
insurrectionists. I mean, these

746
00:45:30,570 --> 00:45:34,230
very people that were now
seeking to come back into public

747
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:40,560
office, were had had been
literally killing Union soldiers

748
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,650
and civilians during the war.
And they had been proclaiming

749
00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:46,980
that there should no longer be a
United States, at least that

750
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:50,070
they wanted to be part of in the
way that was envisioned in the

751
00:45:50,070 --> 00:45:55,170
constitution. So this was a huge
issue. And the Congress led the

752
00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:58,860
efforts to pass a constitutional
amendment, the 14th Amendment,

753
00:45:58,860 --> 00:46:01,560
which has several sections, but
the one we're talking about

754
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:07,410
here, section three notably
says, Look, if you have this,

755
00:46:07,410 --> 00:46:11,370
you know, that's what it says,
look into the one we're talking

756
00:46:11,370 --> 00:46:16,410
about here. Section three
notably says, Look, if you have

757
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,220
previously been an official, in
the United States government and

758
00:46:20,220 --> 00:46:24,840
sworn an oath to uphold the
Constitution, and then violated

759
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,710
that constitution, you cannot
return to government. So in

760
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:31,170
other words, Jefferson Davis,
for example, who was the

761
00:46:31,170 --> 00:46:35,340
president of the Confederacy,
had he had it in his mind, of

762
00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:37,530
course, at the time, that would
have been considered crazy, but

763
00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:40,980
say he had taken it in his head
to become president united

764
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:44,790
states and run against Lincoln
or Ulysses S Grant or whoever,

765
00:46:45,150 --> 00:46:48,300
he would have been banned by
this provision. And in fact,

766
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:51,720
several people running for
Congress were banned by it. So

767
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:53,610
this is what we're talking
about. This is the provision of

768
00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:55,230
the Constitution that's at issue
here.

769
00:46:55,410 --> 00:46:57,390
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry,
actually, actually slightly

770
00:46:57,390 --> 00:47:01,230
wrong. Of course, most analysis
course it's slightly wrong,

771
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:06,000
which is that you can run as the
President's not not,

772
00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:08,820
Adam Curry: he's not mentioned
the President is not mentioned.

773
00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:10,170
And so as I say, sort

774
00:47:10,170 --> 00:47:12,150
John C Dvorak: of what could
happen, you know, Jefferson

775
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:14,310
Davis, or whoever it was, could
could actually run for

776
00:47:14,310 --> 00:47:14,970
presidency

777
00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:19,260
Adam Curry: here. I have one
more. This is an analysis from

778
00:47:19,260 --> 00:47:23,520
Mike Davis. He is from the
Article Three project, which who

779
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,990
knew, who knew, all of a sudden
there's an art and he's on the

780
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:30,540
Steve Bannon war room, so says
enough,

781
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,390
Unknown: and they just decreed
that that President Trump

782
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:37,350
somehow committed an
insurrection. And so therefore,

783
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:39,750
they're gonna throw him off the
ballot. And that is not what the

784
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:43,470
controlling case law says. It's
very clear if you want to

785
00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:48,270
disqualify an officer of the
United States, based upon

786
00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:51,420
insurrection or rebellion, you
have to charge him under the

787
00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:55,350
federal criminal statute for
insurrection or rebellion passed

788
00:47:55,470 --> 00:48:00,150
pursuant to section three of the
14th Amendment back in 1869. You

789
00:48:00,150 --> 00:48:04,800
have to have a grand jury indict
a jury unanimously convicts with

790
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:07,560
evidence beyond a reasonable
doubt find guilty with evidence

791
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,170
beyond the reasonable doubt. The
judge has to convict and that

792
00:48:10,170 --> 00:48:13,230
conviction has to be upheld on
appeal. That is the only way you

793
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:15,780
can disqualify under section
three of the 14th Amendment. The

794
00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:20,190
Supreme Court of the United
States needs to not take Jack

795
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:23,940
Smith cert before judgment case,
which is just complete nonsense.

796
00:48:24,090 --> 00:48:27,600
And they need to save room on
their dockets. For this Colorado

797
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,980
Supreme Court case.

798
00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:32,910
Adam Curry: It's all bull crap.
So it's totally stupid. None of

799
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:34,620
this will get through another.
So

800
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:39,480
John C Dvorak: going, going back
to your, your wonderment as to

801
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,300
what are these people? Are they
fooling themselves to think that

802
00:48:42,330 --> 00:48:46,020
this isn't going to backfire? I
want to play I have very short

803
00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:50,940
like 17 second clip, which might
give you some indication of

804
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:54,090
where these people are at this
is airy Melber Gah,

805
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,010
Adam Curry: Ari Ari, Barry
Silbert the newest model who

806
00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:01,980
quotes Hip Hop lyrics. And so

807
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:05,280
John C Dvorak: just see if you
can catch the little little

808
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,030
indicator within this very
short. This is just a clip of a

809
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:12,690
clip, just saving cash the
indicator in here that these

810
00:49:12,690 --> 00:49:14,850
people are delusional, vacant,

811
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:19,050
Unknown: if past is prologue,
then Kevin McCarthy's very

812
00:49:19,050 --> 00:49:22,290
recent past shows you both where
the Republican Party is headed

813
00:49:22,290 --> 00:49:26,370
and many people think
potentially into a wall if it

814
00:49:26,370 --> 00:49:29,850
has no adjustment process for
what remains a very unpopular

815
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:31,410
and indicted former president.

816
00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:35,370
Adam Curry: Well, I have no idea
what he just said.

817
00:49:36,330 --> 00:49:38,640
John C Dvorak: He's just yakking
away about somebody but he's,

818
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:41,760
but he says he's talking about
the Republican Party's

819
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,940
direction. And he says they're
hitting a wall because they're

820
00:49:44,970 --> 00:49:49,350
they're backing a very unpopular
listen to it again. He says a

821
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:53,430
very unpopular former president
vacant

822
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:57,630
Unknown: if past is prologue.
Then Kevin McCarthy's very

823
00:49:57,630 --> 00:50:00,870
recent past shows you both were
the Republic One party is headed

824
00:50:00,870 --> 00:50:04,950
and many people think,
potentially into a wall if it

825
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:08,430
has no adjustment process for
what remains a very unpopular

826
00:50:08,550 --> 00:50:09,870
and indicted former president.

827
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:14,550
Adam Curry: And indicted you
forgot to mention that and that

828
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:19,140
in indicted, yes, TWICE, TWICE
impeached, he's usually he

829
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:21,240
missed a whole bunch of stuff.
But

830
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:27,720
John C Dvorak: he was it's but
it's just as delusional vision

831
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:35,220
of the world. That is that the
entire crew at MSNBC, CNN and,

832
00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:38,490
and a lot of the news media that
print media in particular,

833
00:50:38,490 --> 00:50:41,430
they're all this way. And
they're now they're coming out

834
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:43,590
of the woodwork. I don't, I
could probably I should have

835
00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:48,690
gotten some clips of this. But
they had a classic PBS newshour

836
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,060
situation where there were the
news media had the editor of The

837
00:50:54,060 --> 00:50:57,750
Atlantic and then to
counterbalance him they had New

838
00:50:57,750 --> 00:51:03,300
York College in New York. I
can't remember the name of this

839
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:08,730
journal erosion was Jay Rosen,
Jay Rosen, and this guy, there's

840
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,850
no balance whatsoever, no other
side there. And they're both

841
00:51:11,850 --> 00:51:16,350
advocating, which I've been
seeing tons of on social media,

842
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,500
all these journalists saying
it's time we we can't be

843
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:23,700
objective anymore. Because our
democracy is at risk. We must

844
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:28,890
stop this nonsense of
objectivity when no democracy is

845
00:51:28,890 --> 00:51:32,130
at risk. And we must, we must
express our opinion. We talked

846
00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:35,670
about this in the last show a
little bit. And this has gotten

847
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:39,300
out of control, because these
people are completely insane.

848
00:51:39,780 --> 00:51:43,200
Adam Curry: And that's it. They
they come from a place which was

849
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,880
not that long ago, where and I
would say this is part of the

850
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,120
reason for the anger with Elon
Musk. They come from a place

851
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:55,410
where they controlled the
message. And they they truly

852
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,860
that journalist in particular,
they felt they were in control.

853
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,270
We determined what you know,
we're New York Times that you

854
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:06,870
can see the arrogance of of the
reporters and what's that?

855
00:52:07,050 --> 00:52:10,830
What's that dipshits name?
Lorenz Taylor Lorenz, you know,

856
00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:15,060
the minute someone got on her
face, she starts crying. Now,

857
00:52:15,090 --> 00:52:20,340
because we are in control of the
message you we know better, we

858
00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:24,900
know better. We're the elites.
And they've promised

859
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,300
John C Dvorak: they're not the
elites, to journalists of this

860
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:31,650
country or anything, but the
elites, they're just their pass

861
00:52:31,650 --> 00:52:34,920
through. useful idiots pass
through stooges.

862
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:43,050
Adam Curry: stooges pass through
stooges. Yeah, so so. And, but

863
00:52:43,050 --> 00:52:48,270
of course, when everything's out
of control, we know everything's

864
00:52:48,270 --> 00:52:52,380
out of control. There's, there's
no one's in charge anymore. It's

865
00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:58,680
every man for himself on x.
Everybody's fighting and yelling

866
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,960
and everyone knows better and
just there because everyone

867
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,110
thinks oh, you know, if if Trump
becomes president, that goes

868
00:53:07,110 --> 00:53:09,660
with democracy and the other
side if Trump becomes president,

869
00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:14,370
he'll fix everything. Yeah.
Dream on. Yeah. Dream on your

870
00:53:14,370 --> 00:53:18,930
will be of course, no, of course
not. And then as a as the big

871
00:53:18,930 --> 00:53:22,050
meme, the big meme, everybody
hears the big meme. Oh, yeah.

872
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,780
You know what? They're all
afraid. We may

873
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:27,330
Unknown: soon learn the
identities of more people

874
00:53:27,330 --> 00:53:33,600
connected to Jeffrey Epstein and
more than 150 names, which were

875
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,440
previously withheld. They
include witnesses and victims in

876
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,800
the civil case against Carlene
Maxwell, who is currently

877
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,400
serving 20 years in prison for
being Epstein's accomplice in

878
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,550
sex trafficking. The list also
includes some of Epstein's

879
00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:51,180
former employees. Epstein, a
wealthy and well connected

880
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:55,110
financier was indicted in 2019.
For a scheme of involving

881
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,940
underage girls. He later took
his own life in jail before he

882
00:53:59,940 --> 00:54:01,230
could be tried. I wonder

883
00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:03,720
how many men Michelle was
sitting at home right now going

884
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:07,620
overload? And women Yeah, and
women to women as well. It's a

885
00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:08,610
terrible story.

886
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,540
Adam Curry: Now that was
interesting. That was

887
00:54:12,540 --> 00:54:15,540
interesting that she threw in
the women thing this is Gail.

888
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:20,220
You know, because we're, we can
probably expect Oprah to be on

889
00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:24,840
this list if anything ever gets
published if if if if the as

890
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,720
Oprah was was hanging out with
Jeffrey Epstein, too. And then

891
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:33,450
so this this colleague throws in
and women, Gail, then women just

892
00:54:33,450 --> 00:54:38,730
so you know. What, what is this?
What is this list of clients

893
00:54:38,730 --> 00:54:40,830
what does that mean? client
doesn't

894
00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:42,780
John C Dvorak: mean anything up
I don't know why they don't

895
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:47,610
publish the list. Just let let
let it hit the fan. And so what

896
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,030
it doesn't prove anything. I
mean, this like the Yeah, and I

897
00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:55,380
I'm not one here too. We got to
Bill Gates doesn't need my help

898
00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:59,010
to defend himself. But this
latest thing always was there's

899
00:54:59,010 --> 00:55:03,750
a picture of him with some am
woman. And so I went back and I

900
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:06,120
said picture with it. Sorry,
there was actually an article.

901
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:09,180
In a Russian I think that's
buttoning, but one of the

902
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:12,060
Russian magazines with Bill
Gates with a bunch of different

903
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:17,580
women, many of them Epstein,
women, but it's just like, I

904
00:55:17,580 --> 00:55:21,720
didn't want to say that he did
this or that. And I suspect he

905
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:25,170
probably had some fun with a
couple of them. But you can't

906
00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:27,540
prove anything. If you're a
celebrity at that. Like if

907
00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:30,480
you're a multi billionaire, one
of the richest people in the

908
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,630
world, people are gonna want to
have their picture taken with

909
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,290
you. Yes. Lots of them. You
could there's probably 1000s of

910
00:55:37,290 --> 00:55:40,020
people that Bill couldn't
identify in a million years.

911
00:55:40,740 --> 00:55:46,050
Always cozied up next to him.
Women, men, ladies, girls,

912
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,070
everything in between

913
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:49,140
Adam Curry: knowing why you know
what it shows above all,

914
00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:53,250
particularly this airplane and
when I hear RFK Jr. Like, yeah,

915
00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:58,950
you know, my wife at the time
thing was Mary. She was friends

916
00:55:58,950 --> 00:56:03,180
with Jess lane. And we have
these people they're like, hey,

917
00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:06,180
oh, you need a ride. Just take
my jet. When have you gotten

918
00:56:06,180 --> 00:56:09,690
that offer? was last time
someone said to you Hey, John.

919
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:13,440
Oh, you need to go visit just
grab my jet no problem. They're

920
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,600
in a club that we are very far
from

921
00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:20,880
John C Dvorak: I know people in
that club and I don't know that

922
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,080
they do that.

923
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:25,710
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, there's
there's courtesies like because

924
00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:26,490
jets are I

925
00:56:26,490 --> 00:56:29,880
John C Dvorak: think at the high
end if you have a jet and I have

926
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,390
a jet then you swap each other's
jets I get it's like the people

927
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:38,010
who go friend of mine was is
involved with these kind of

928
00:56:38,010 --> 00:56:42,030
circles where people Oh, come on
over. Come to the mansion out

929
00:56:42,030 --> 00:56:44,940
the Hamptons. We got a room for
you can stay for a month.

930
00:56:44,970 --> 00:56:45,930
Adam Curry: I'll send the jet.

931
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:50,400
John C Dvorak: Jet. Now that's a
little Okay. Well, we were

932
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,200
definitely not in that category.
No,

933
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,390
Adam Curry: we're not. We're not
in the mansion state dimension

934
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:56,310
category either. No,

935
00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:58,530
John C Dvorak: no, you want to
stay at the house. Maybe for a

936
00:56:58,530 --> 00:57:01,710
day. Can't you find a hotel?
Something new? You

937
00:57:01,710 --> 00:57:03,720
Adam Curry: wouldn't even let me
see your office when I came

938
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:06,630
John C Dvorak: to visit? The
office is off limits limits.

939
00:57:08,970 --> 00:57:12,360
Yeah, so that's kind of when
anyone putting a bug in this

940
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,650
office. That's the reason

941
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,810
Adam Curry: that's me. Oh, yeah.
But you don't trust me your

942
00:57:15,810 --> 00:57:18,630
partner for 16 years? Yeah,

943
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:21,990
John C Dvorak: you gotta get
your line somewhere. Meanwhile,

944
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:24,960
Adam Curry: no one talks about
the FDIC parties. You've been

945
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:32,400
following that story, which won,
that the FDIC under leadership

946
00:57:32,430 --> 00:57:37,560
of Chairman Greenberg, that this
does go back a couple of years.

947
00:57:39,450 --> 00:57:42,600
John C Dvorak: But he talked
about FDIC price some time ago.

948
00:57:43,290 --> 00:57:47,430
Adam Curry: Well, new reports of
misconduct. In 2020, the

949
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:50,190
agency's inspector general
published a report of sexual

950
00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:54,570
harassment that revealed that at
least 191 FDIC employees

951
00:57:54,570 --> 00:57:58,230
experienced sexual harassment
between January of 2015 and

952
00:57:58,260 --> 00:58:04,320
April of 2019. This included let
me see I have some of these

953
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:09,480
here. They had parties and
people be groping each other.

954
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:14,790
No, go to the party. You can't
but it's the FDIC. This is a

955
00:58:14,790 --> 00:58:15,390
government

956
00:58:15,810 --> 00:58:18,870
John C Dvorak: makes no sense.
It was like you know, Nepal

957
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:22,290
autonomous operation which had a
bunch of sexual harassment for

958
00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:25,950
the women against men. Yeah. And
against the other women. Yeah,

959
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:26,610
yeah.

960
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,290
Adam Curry: We're just, well,
these

961
00:58:31,290 --> 00:58:33,930
John C Dvorak: people are bored.
Let's face it. Now that this

962
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:37,890
already is invite parties invite
this sort of behavior. I hate to

963
00:58:37,890 --> 00:58:38,430
tell you.

964
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:43,950
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, x x is
under Investec. subrogation.

965
00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:44,370
Elon

966
00:58:44,370 --> 00:58:47,790
Unknown: Musk's social media
platform x the former Twitter is

967
00:58:47,790 --> 00:58:51,540
now under investigation by the
European Union. The EU says it's

968
00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:54,030
focused on whether the company
has done enough to stop the

969
00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:57,210
spread of illegal content
illegal first and such

970
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,390
investigation under new
regulations aimed at hate speech

971
00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:02,520
and misinformation. Yes,

972
00:59:02,550 --> 00:59:07,140
Adam Curry: that Europe is going
well everybody the hate speech

973
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:12,570
and misinformation is on deck in
Europe. I gotta get my daughter

974
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:15,570
out of there. I'm gonna have to
talk to her about this.

975
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:19,710
John C Dvorak: She really does
she enjoy living in Rotterdam

976
00:59:19,710 --> 00:59:23,940
it's a it's a you know a nice
country beautiful place you mean

977
00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:24,180
where

978
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:28,200
Adam Curry: the where they had
terrorists. They arrested ready

979
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,720
to kill Jews that that
Rotterdam.

980
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,530
John C Dvorak: You have terror
terrorists arrested ready to

981
00:59:34,530 --> 00:59:36,060
kill Jews in this country?

982
00:59:36,570 --> 00:59:37,620
Adam Curry: Well, there you go.

983
00:59:39,390 --> 00:59:41,430
John C Dvorak: Don't move to New
York, whatever you do.

984
00:59:42,330 --> 00:59:45,060
Adam Curry: We should probably
talk about that for a second

985
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:45,750
here tonight.

986
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:48,270
Unknown: The Israeli military
says the three hostages were

987
00:59:48,270 --> 00:59:52,110
mistakenly killed by Israeli
forces had escaped from Hamas

988
00:59:52,110 --> 00:59:56,160
five days earlier. After Israeli
soldiers killed their captors in

989
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,370
a firefight with Molly Donald's
the army says they've since

990
00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:03,570
analyzed Camera on a military
dog at the scene. recorded the

991
01:00:03,570 --> 01:00:04,800
hostage dogs.

992
01:00:06,210 --> 01:00:08,280
Adam Curry: They had a camera on
a military dog

993
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:10,620
John C Dvorak: yeah if I'm
working in the field and I gotta

994
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:13,620
have a camera on me I say what?
Where's the dog? Let's put the

995
01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:17,010
camera on the dog. I don't need
to have this camera on me here

996
01:00:17,010 --> 01:00:18,810
Phoebe, you go check it out a
camera

997
01:00:18,810 --> 01:00:23,040
Unknown: on a military dog at
the scene. The hostages voices.

998
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,040
They were later mistakenly shot
by Israeli soldiers while

999
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,640
holding a white flag. Their
deaths increasing the pressure

1000
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,610
in Israel to pause the fighting
and strike a deal to get the

1001
01:00:32,610 --> 01:00:35,430
rest of the hostages out the
President today. Well,

1002
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:39,300
fortunately, there's no
expectation at this point. But

1003
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:42,540
we are pushing Secretary of
State Tony Blinken today blaming

1004
01:00:42,540 --> 01:00:43,680
Hamas I hear

1005
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:49,020
virtually no one's saying
demanding from us that it stop

1006
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:53,070
hiding behind civilians. That it
lay down his arms. That is

1007
01:00:53,070 --> 01:00:57,150
surrender. Yeah, man is over
tomorrow. No, if a moss does

1008
01:00:57,150 --> 01:00:57,360
that,

1009
01:00:59,010 --> 01:01:02,670
Mr. Prime Minister Netanyahu
vowing to continue the war until

1010
01:01:02,670 --> 01:01:06,930
Hamas is eliminated. Israel is
now allowing aid into Gaza

1011
01:01:06,930 --> 01:01:10,050
through a second crossing. But
the US and aid groups say it's

1012
01:01:10,050 --> 01:01:11,880
not nearly enough. I'm

1013
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,860
Adam Curry: going to give
everybody the sad truth of

1014
01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:18,060
what's happening here. But all
this talk about pause and

1015
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:23,970
ceasefire and Hamas has to say,
No, Israel, the IDF, they're

1016
01:01:23,970 --> 01:01:29,070
going to rub allies, the entire
Gaza, all of it. And when

1017
01:01:29,070 --> 01:01:31,620
they're done with that they're
going to go and rub allies in

1018
01:01:31,620 --> 01:01:36,060
the North for Hezbollah, they're
not stopping. All of this is

1019
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:40,290
just just fodder to keep
everybody talking and hoping and

1020
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,280
walking around with flags. But
they're going it's over. They

1021
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,510
are not going to stop. I have
lots of acquaintances and

1022
01:01:48,510 --> 01:01:52,560
friends in Israel, the ear, the
parents of those of those

1023
01:01:53,370 --> 01:01:57,480
basically be young young men who
were killed. They're out there

1024
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,980
saying, you know, it's horrible,
but we don't blame the IDF. We

1025
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:05,460
understand what happened. And
then you can come to my house

1026
01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:08,460
and I'll give you dinner at any
point. The people are so fed up

1027
01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:11,400
with this. They want they want
what Netanyahu is doing. They

1028
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,580
want it. It's not going to stop
but there's

1029
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:16,380
John C Dvorak: a lot of
protesting going on in Israel.

1030
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:19,770
So I think there's a divided
population as to some want it

1031
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,450
some don't go a political

1032
01:02:21,450 --> 01:02:27,120
Adam Curry: protests. Yeah,
against Netanyahu. Yeah. Yeah.

1033
01:02:27,180 --> 01:02:27,750
Well,

1034
01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:30,690
John C Dvorak: well, let's go to
that brings us as we're

1035
01:02:30,690 --> 01:02:33,930
discussing this area, I do want
to discuss a little bit about

1036
01:02:33,930 --> 01:02:34,740
the Houthis.

1037
01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:38,460
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah, this is
this is heating up. I'm like, so

1038
01:02:38,460 --> 01:02:39,240
there's no better

1039
01:02:40,410 --> 01:02:42,540
John C Dvorak: and I have my
certain complaints of course.

1040
01:02:42,540 --> 01:02:46,680
Yes, obviously. So I do have a
three by three. Oh, you want to

1041
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,020
do that first? Yeah, right off
the bat.

1042
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,860
Unknown: And now it's time for a
three by three. Experiment

1043
01:02:52,890 --> 01:03:00,240
Adam Curry: by Jesse comparing
stories from the the scenes. The

1044
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,300
never ending, right? He's got
the stories, the headlines, the

1045
01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:05,190
big three networks. This is
where we break it down. We see

1046
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:07,560
what the script is and we find
out what is bold and what is

1047
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,990
more bully. Here we go with a
three by three.

1048
01:03:10,050 --> 01:03:11,970
John C Dvorak: You know, the
funny thing is you can really

1049
01:03:11,970 --> 01:03:15,630
see the script in this group of
three because it's as if they're

1050
01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:19,320
in the same newsroom. The
structure of the three stories

1051
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:24,030
is almost identical and makes no
sense. And let's start with

1052
01:03:24,030 --> 01:03:26,400
Richard Engel at NBC. The cargo

1053
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,120
Unknown: giant Maersk joined BP
in halting traffic through the

1054
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,930
Red Sea in response to attacks
by the Iranian backed Yemeni

1055
01:03:33,930 --> 01:03:38,250
militia, known as the Houthi was
hijacked and fired on several

1056
01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:42,930
ships. Defense Secretary Lloyd
Austin in Bahrain today, home of

1057
01:03:42,930 --> 01:03:46,680
the US Fifth Fleet announced the
formation of a 10 nation

1058
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,970
coalition to defend the Red Sea.
But the Houthis vowed to keep

1059
01:03:50,970 --> 01:03:55,320
attacking ships until Israel
ends its blockade of Gaza. The

1060
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,370
showdown sending oil prices up
again today, while the

1061
01:03:59,370 --> 01:04:03,000
Palestinian Islamic Jihad
tonight put out a video of two

1062
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,420
Israeli men it's holding
hostage. Yesterday, Hamas

1063
01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:09,660
released a video of three
elderly hostages taken under

1064
01:04:09,660 --> 01:04:15,480
duress. the Gaza Strip is at a
breaking point as Israel attacks

1065
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,490
Hamas, a group say 2.3 million
Palestinians are paying an

1066
01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:24,000
unbearable price. The World
Health Organization today

1067
01:04:24,030 --> 01:04:27,720
described the situation in Gaza
as hospitals as beyond belief

1068
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:28,980
and unconscionable.

1069
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:33,150
Richard, what do we know about
where the ceasefire talks down

1070
01:04:33,150 --> 01:04:34,320
right now? They

1071
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,680
are fragile Lester, but
advancing with Qatar reporting

1072
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,160
progress and multiple ports that
they'll continue tomorrow in

1073
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:41,610
Egypt.

1074
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,870
John C Dvorak: Okay, so here's
the structure we have the

1075
01:04:45,930 --> 01:04:51,420
Houthi, stopping the attacking
and just attacking and then

1076
01:04:51,690 --> 01:04:55,230
screwing up the red sea
transport. And then for some

1077
01:04:55,230 --> 01:05:00,750
reason, unknown to me, they
jumped to the hostages, huh? And

1078
01:05:00,750 --> 01:05:04,710
then they finish the story with
the discussion of this a

1079
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:08,940
mishmash report. And in there
somewhere there was the Bahrain,

1080
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:11,760
I didn't realize that we kept
our ships there in Bahrain. So

1081
01:05:11,790 --> 01:05:15,270
that's a little point that will
show up in another report. So

1082
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:21,360
let's go to let's move on to ABC
with I'd say the report from the

1083
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,770
same newsroom tonight.

1084
01:05:22,770 --> 01:05:24,930
Unknown: We're also following
the new attacks are rotting and

1085
01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:28,620
backed militants taking aim yet
again. On commercial ships in

1086
01:05:28,620 --> 01:05:31,860
the Red Sea. It comes just hours
after the US announced it was

1087
01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:35,280
now leading an international
naval task force with several

1088
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,320
nations. Tonight,

1089
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:41,040
Iran backed Houthi rebels in
Yemen, to more attacks on

1090
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,970
commercial ships in the Red Sea.
Just as the US announced a naval

1091
01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:49,170
task force to counter the threat
the US joining nine countries to

1092
01:05:49,170 --> 01:05:53,070
escort vessels passing through
the crucial trade route after

1093
01:05:53,070 --> 01:05:57,210
major companies including oil
giant BP paused operations.

1094
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,180
Bottom line is these attacks
have to stop. They need to stop.

1095
01:06:00,180 --> 01:06:03,120
They're unacceptable. The United
States our allies and our

1096
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,790
partners will do what we have to
do to counter these threats and

1097
01:06:05,790 --> 01:06:07,200
to protect these ships. But the

1098
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,340
Houthi is vowing further attacks
in retaliation for Israel's war

1099
01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:15,000
in Gaza. And David another
hostage video release tonight

1100
01:06:15,030 --> 01:06:18,780
these images showing Gaddy Moses
and Elijah Cassia, who were

1101
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:22,140
kidnapped on October 7, and
tonight a Prime Minister

1102
01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:25,560
Netanyahu met with hostage
families saying their release is

1103
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,670
his highest mission.

1104
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,500
John C Dvorak: So there we go.
Again, the same interesting

1105
01:06:32,070 --> 01:06:36,270
report goes from the Houthis to
Oh, why did you stop shooting at

1106
01:06:36,270 --> 01:06:39,990
us? Two hostages. So okay,

1107
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:43,590
Adam Curry: whatever this is
meant to meant to focus you on

1108
01:06:43,590 --> 01:06:45,810
the on, like, well,

1109
01:06:46,530 --> 01:06:48,120
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
to be honest about it. So

1110
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,610
unfocused itself I don't say I
can make anyone focus on

1111
01:06:50,610 --> 01:06:54,180
anything. So here we go to CBS
with another one and they're

1112
01:06:54,180 --> 01:06:57,420
always a little bit of always
give a little more twist, they

1113
01:06:57,420 --> 01:06:59,910
got a little more information
than the other networks.

1114
01:07:00,990 --> 01:07:03,240
Unknown: Some of the world's
biggest shipping and oil

1115
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,300
companies are now rerouting
their vessels away from the Red

1116
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:09,870
Sea after brazen attacks like
this one by Iranian backed

1117
01:07:09,870 --> 01:07:14,400
Houthi rebels. A dozen ships
attacked in just the past month

1118
01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:17,940
the Navy destroyer USS Carney
has been shooting down drones

1119
01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:20,550
and missiles launched from
Houthi controlled territory in

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01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:25,770
Yemen in support of Palestinians
in the Gaza war. 10 to 15% of

1121
01:07:25,770 --> 01:07:29,340
global trade normally passes
through worth an estimated $1

1122
01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:33,120
trillion. Fearing Houthi
attacks, ships are turning off

1123
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,750
transponders hiring armed guards
and several companies are

1124
01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:40,650
sailing around Africa a pain
consumers will feel

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01:07:40,740 --> 01:07:45,390
we've launched Operation
prosperity guardian

1126
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,640
in the region defense secretary
Lloyd

1127
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:50,640
Adam Curry: who makes up these
code names this is a dumb one

1128
01:07:50,670 --> 01:07:55,680
prosperity guardian. Call us
call us people

1129
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,960
Unknown: will fix you up tumors
will feel

1130
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:02,730
we've launched Operation
prosperity guardian

1131
01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:06,570
Adam Curry: can we come up with
a better name John. But anything

1132
01:08:06,570 --> 01:08:12,900
but this like hell to the
Houthis no Hellfire on Houthi is

1133
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:16,110
anything but prosperity Guardian
rumors will feel

1134
01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:20,849
Unknown: we've launched
Operation prosperity guardian.

1135
01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:24,480
In the region, Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin announced a new

1136
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:28,110
task force to try to stop Houthi
attacks as a 10. Country

1137
01:08:28,110 --> 01:08:32,190
military alliance with the
intent to grow. So far, the only

1138
01:08:32,190 --> 01:08:35,430
country from the Middle East to
sign on is the tiny nation of

1139
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:40,020
Bahrain, in Gaza, Israel's
bombardment continues with

1140
01:08:40,020 --> 01:08:43,800
nearly 20,000 people now killed
says Gaza, Hamas run health

1141
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,550
ministry. And just hours ago,
militants in Gaza released two

1142
01:08:47,580 --> 01:08:50,880
more videos of hostages. And
this is the second such release.

1143
01:08:51,870 --> 01:08:54,870
That comes as leaders from both
Israel and Hamas are signaling

1144
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:58,830
they are open to a new pause.
And a new hostage really steel.

1145
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:00,030
Yeah,

1146
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:03,060
John C Dvorak: same exact
structures, all three stories as

1147
01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:06,150
if they're all working together.
So somebody is somebody, there's

1148
01:09:06,150 --> 01:09:11,070
an overlord telling you how to
do these things, obviously, and

1149
01:09:11,070 --> 01:09:14,370
they're doing a poor job. I
mean, the media is corrupt. And

1150
01:09:14,370 --> 01:09:18,360
so you have and there's the
mention of Bahrain, as the which

1151
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,270
was where we keep our ships. So
yeah, they're gonna join in

1152
01:09:21,270 --> 01:09:26,610
because we give a lot of money
to the post our Navy. So they're

1153
01:09:26,610 --> 01:09:29,520
on board. But here's a couple of
things that crop up this show.

1154
01:09:29,550 --> 01:09:33,180
By the way, I have one more clip
date. Here's what shows up. In

1155
01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:36,900
my mind. One, Bahrain is the
only one who joins in with this

1156
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,040
with a kind of a program to stop
the Houthis. What about Saudi

1157
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,910
Arabia? They're at war with the
Houthis. Why are they in on

1158
01:09:44,910 --> 01:09:49,380
this? Simple question. So no,
no, we're not. No, we're not.

1159
01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:53,940
No, no. The second thing is,
again, I'll say it again. I said

1160
01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:57,060
on every show, we have
satellites, there's no clouds

1161
01:09:57,210 --> 01:10:01,350
over over Yemen. Did we have
satellites right over showing

1162
01:10:01,350 --> 01:10:03,720
exactly where those missiles are
coming from we could bomb the

1163
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,140
crap out of those sites and
ended it that because we're

1164
01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:09,780
bombing Somalia as we speak well
but

1165
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:12,060
Adam Curry: how about this maybe
you want the oil price to go up

1166
01:10:12,060 --> 01:10:12,570
a little bit

1167
01:10:13,650 --> 01:10:16,470
John C Dvorak: you think that
might be part of it I'm have a

1168
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:21,390
feeling they oil prices go up
yeah because hasn't gone up for

1169
01:10:21,390 --> 01:10:24,120
any other reason so there's
something you know there might

1170
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,360
be something that that there's
something there there allow in

1171
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,900
other words the point they're
allowing this this is being

1172
01:10:30,930 --> 01:10:35,100
allowed. There's no way if they
didn't want it to happen that

1173
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:36,930
they would just not bomb the
crap out of

1174
01:10:37,170 --> 01:10:41,910
Adam Curry: the bomb everybody
else. Yeah, we know but no, not

1175
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:43,230
these guys. There's

1176
01:10:43,230 --> 01:10:45,600
John C Dvorak: two things they
can do. One one they're allowing

1177
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,230
it to is giving some of the
destroyers some of our ships

1178
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:52,740
target practice so we can see
what it takes to shoot down

1179
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:53,610
drones. Get one

1180
01:10:53,610 --> 01:10:56,790
Adam Curry: of the trolls had a
good point. Get the oil price

1181
01:10:56,820 --> 01:11:00,210
all jacked up. Then have Joe
come out and mumble something

1182
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,040
and then you know let it go
down.

1183
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,050
John C Dvorak: Well, it's gonna
go down anyway. Yeah, Joe's

1184
01:11:07,050 --> 01:11:07,530
gonna do it.

1185
01:11:07,530 --> 01:11:10,140
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, no,
he's not but it's all theory.

1186
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:10,830
The

1187
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:12,510
John C Dvorak: idea is you
mumble something mumble

1188
01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:16,530
something and then it then the
the social media goes nuts.

1189
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:22,440
Joe's saved us. So I do have one
report that kind of is probably

1190
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:26,310
more valuable than those three,
put together get reports on

1191
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:32,010
three exact same network. This
is the Houthi threat. This is a

1192
01:11:32,010 --> 01:11:32,850
NTD

1193
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,000
Unknown: the leader of the
Yemeni Houthis vows to retaliate

1194
01:11:36,030 --> 01:11:39,690
if Washington takes aim at
Yemen. This is as the US is

1195
01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:43,290
spearheading a multinational
coalition to interrupt Houthi

1196
01:11:43,290 --> 01:11:47,790
attacks against cargo ships
passing through the Red Sea. So,

1197
01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:52,290
before any American targeting
our country will be targeted by

1198
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,800
us and we will make American
battleships interests and

1199
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,000
navigation a target for our
missiles, drones and military

1200
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,190
operations. The

1201
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:05,130
Iran backed group has been
escalating missile strikes

1202
01:12:05,130 --> 01:12:08,190
against vessels sailing through
the Red Sea in an attempt to

1203
01:12:08,190 --> 01:12:11,250
show support for Hamas
terrorists amid the Israel Hamas

1204
01:12:11,250 --> 01:12:15,390
war. Those strikes are forcing
ships to either cancel transit

1205
01:12:15,390 --> 01:12:19,440
or reroute to Africa, which is
causing gas and shipping prices

1206
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:23,130
to rise. The US love security
pact joined by nine other

1207
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:26,790
countries plans to ramp up
patrol in the Red Sea to deter

1208
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:29,490
and respond to future Houthi
attacks.

1209
01:12:29,610 --> 01:12:32,460
Adam Curry: To all of these
reports include the one name

1210
01:12:32,460 --> 01:12:38,760
which I've been tracking, which
is Iran or Iran. And so what I'm

1211
01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:43,410
most curious about is is is this
going to be the precursor do is

1212
01:12:43,410 --> 01:12:49,500
this excuse me time to go on bom
bom bom bom bom Moran. And I can

1213
01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:53,310
tell you no and and the reason I
know is because General Frank

1214
01:12:53,310 --> 01:12:59,220
McKenzie came on the PBS news
hour to discuss the Red Sea

1215
01:12:59,220 --> 01:13:00,330
crisis.

1216
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,730
Unknown: We return now to the
conflict in the Middle East and

1217
01:13:02,730 --> 01:13:06,810
rising tensions in the Red Sea.
We're about 12% of the world's

1218
01:13:06,810 --> 01:13:10,710
global trade passes through and
where Houthi militias in Yemen

1219
01:13:10,710 --> 01:13:14,250
have been attacking ships. The
Houthi say their attacks are in

1220
01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:17,940
support of the Palestinians.
Yesterday, US Defense Secretary

1221
01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:21,690
Lloyd Austin announced a new
multinational effort to protect

1222
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,560
ships in the region. But how
will that work? For that we turn

1223
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,680
to former commander of US forces
in the Middle East, retired

1224
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,920
General Frank McKenzie. He's now
the executive director of the

1225
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,640
global and national security
Institute at the University of

1226
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:36,600
South Florida.

1227
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:39,510
Adam Curry: Yeah, beautiful. We
got a spokes hole, everybody. So

1228
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:41,370
explain who are these Houthis
help

1229
01:13:41,370 --> 01:13:44,070
Unknown: our audience understand
first who are the Houthis? And

1230
01:13:44,070 --> 01:13:46,710
why exactly are they attacking
commercial ships.

1231
01:13:47,010 --> 01:13:49,950
The Houthis are a proxy of Iran.
And they've seized governmental

1232
01:13:49,950 --> 01:13:52,950
control and a coup in Yemen
several years ago. They've been

1233
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:56,160
largely responsible for the mass
starvation in the country. And

1234
01:13:56,190 --> 01:13:59,010
with Iran, they pursue a policy
for the destruction of Israel.

1235
01:13:59,220 --> 01:14:02,730
They're not completely under the
direct control of Iran. But Iran

1236
01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:05,550
provides their equipment
provides the resourcing and all

1237
01:14:05,550 --> 01:14:08,670
their supplies, but they're not
directly at the beck and call of

1238
01:14:08,670 --> 01:14:11,730
ran in this matter. The Houthis
have wanted to attack Israel,

1239
01:14:11,730 --> 01:14:15,000
it's very hard for them to
arrange Israel proper. So

1240
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,840
they've settled on instead,
trying to cut off communication

1241
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,690
of maritime shipping in the in
the Bab el Mandeb area down at

1242
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:23,670
the southern end of the Red Sea.
So

1243
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:25,920
Adam Curry: the more I hear
these people talk about the

1244
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,280
Houthis, the more I think they
work for us. I mean, this this,

1245
01:14:29,370 --> 01:14:32,010
this whole thing stinks to high
hell, let's look let's talk

1246
01:14:32,010 --> 01:14:33,150
about the task force.

1247
01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:35,430
Unknown: And as we mentioned,
the US announced this creation

1248
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:38,820
of this Multinational Task Force
to Protect commercial traffic

1249
01:14:38,820 --> 01:14:40,080
through the Red Sea. Why is

1250
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,120
Adam Curry: it called a task
force? The fact that they call

1251
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:47,490
it a task force is like blame.
Now how about attack force or

1252
01:14:47,550 --> 01:14:50,970
defense force? Defense Force
would be better anything but

1253
01:14:50,970 --> 01:14:54,450
Task Force? That's something the
marketing department does in

1254
01:14:54,450 --> 01:14:55,980
your company. Yeah,

1255
01:14:56,010 --> 01:14:57,570
John C Dvorak: task force we
attack for

1256
01:14:57,780 --> 01:15:00,900
Unknown: how exactly will that
work and in your estimation will

1257
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:03,960
it be enough to deter future
attacks,

1258
01:15:04,410 --> 01:15:07,590
the ships will be important, we
will provide ships, our friends

1259
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:10,440
and partners will provide ships
and those warships that will be

1260
01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:13,470
out there, shepherding the
merchant vessels, three will be

1261
01:15:13,470 --> 01:15:16,890
very important. But what will be
equally important will be the

1262
01:15:16,890 --> 01:15:20,610
intelligence architecture that
we put over the Bab el Mandeb.

1263
01:15:20,970 --> 01:15:24,060
You need to see what's going on.
You do that through man patrol

1264
01:15:24,060 --> 01:15:27,420
aircraft, unmanned aircraft,
drones, all kinds of other

1265
01:15:27,420 --> 01:15:30,420
intelligence gathering systems
to actually see what the Houthis

1266
01:15:30,420 --> 01:15:33,330
are up to money, money, money,
money. And this also has another

1267
01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:36,090
effect. And we know for many
years of dealing with Iran, they

1268
01:15:36,090 --> 01:15:39,540
don't like to be observed. It
can have been a tearing effect

1269
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:44,040
in 2019. Our heavy use of ISR
intelligence, surveillance and

1270
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,550
reconnaissance assets around the
Strait of Hormuz prevented the

1271
01:15:47,550 --> 01:15:51,180
Iranians from carrying out
nefarious attacks may or may not

1272
01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:53,730
be enough with the Houthi they
tend to be very aggressive. I

1273
01:15:53,730 --> 01:15:55,590
think at some point we're
probably going to have to

1274
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:56,670
consider that

1275
01:15:58,170 --> 01:16:00,510
John C Dvorak: they've been at
war for I don't know what is it

1276
01:16:00,510 --> 01:16:05,580
10 years now Saudi Arabia,
they're all this bull crap this.

1277
01:16:05,730 --> 01:16:08,940
You're right. This is a crock of
crap from the get go. And

1278
01:16:08,940 --> 01:16:11,940
they're doing this. And by the
way, their dough is going to

1279
01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:15,390
talk about this guy had a clip
of that I don't didn't bring it

1280
01:16:15,420 --> 01:16:20,100
along, which is the price of
insurance for the ships going

1281
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:24,450
through the Red Sea has gone up
tenfold. Yeah, to the point

1282
01:16:24,450 --> 01:16:27,510
where this never mentioned to
the point where it's actually

1283
01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:31,950
still super expensive to drive
all the way around the African

1284
01:16:32,340 --> 01:16:36,750
tip, but cheaper to do that and
pay for the insurance. And so

1285
01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:40,650
nobody's going through the Red
Sea. This is a set definitely a

1286
01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:43,650
way to jack up prices. Yes.

1287
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,000
Adam Curry: And to maybe maybe
Orwell was inflation, but that's

1288
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,630
because of the Houthis meant
something like that. Yeah.

1289
01:16:51,660 --> 01:16:54,060
Houthi inflation, Houthi
inflation Houthi

1290
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:58,380
John C Dvorak: no one's good.
That's too hard to sell. For,

1291
01:16:58,770 --> 01:17:02,460
they call the call it system
name for the organization to

1292
01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:03,180
begin with, but

1293
01:17:03,180 --> 01:17:05,190
Adam Curry: they'll call it a
supply chain here. The what's

1294
01:17:05,190 --> 01:17:06,450
the future of big business?

1295
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:09,270
Unknown: BP is now the latest
company to announce it's going

1296
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:11,850
to be pausing shipments through
the Red Sea, as we mentioned,

1297
01:17:11,850 --> 01:17:15,300
with so much global trade going
through that area. What does

1298
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:18,330
that mean for the future of big
business?

1299
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:21,420
Well, I think if we're unable to
reestablish and reassert the

1300
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:23,670
route of free passage here and
keep the Houthis in making these

1301
01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:27,210
attacks, everything's going to
slow down is 14 more days to go

1302
01:17:27,210 --> 01:17:30,900
around Africa to come up either
east or west. And that will tend

1303
01:17:30,900 --> 01:17:33,960
to exert greater pressure on the
market, probably the energy

1304
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:37,230
energy market first, but other
markets as well. So it's in

1305
01:17:37,230 --> 01:17:40,200
everyone's interest, every
nation that moves on the global

1306
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,710
commons actually has an interest
in ensuring that the Bab el

1307
01:17:43,710 --> 01:17:46,470
Mandeb is going to be open for
the ride of free passenger

1308
01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:47,070
ships. The

1309
01:17:47,070 --> 01:17:51,540
Adam Curry: Houthi price hike.
You never know. Final, final

1310
01:17:51,540 --> 01:17:55,050
clip here. Talk to us about the
region. I mean, we have to

1311
01:17:55,050 --> 01:17:57,630
understand the region what's
going on in the region. As you

1312
01:17:57,630 --> 01:18:00,360
Unknown: mentioned, the Houthis
are an Iranian proxy, what does

1313
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,290
all of this suggest about the
potential for Israel's war

1314
01:18:04,290 --> 01:18:08,550
against Hamas to escalate into a
wider regional con region?

1315
01:18:08,670 --> 01:18:11,250
I think the odds of the
escalation beyond Gaza are

1316
01:18:11,250 --> 01:18:14,640
actually fairly small right now,
Lebanese, Hezbollah has not

1317
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,070
chosen to enter the fray,
despite the fact they're

1318
01:18:17,070 --> 01:18:19,650
exchanging low levels of fire
with Israel on its northern

1319
01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:23,610
border. Iran has not chosen to
directly attack Israel. Those

1320
01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:26,790
are important things that have
perhaps been overlooked. Hamas

1321
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:29,730
is not getting a lot of support
from those two entities. Now,

1322
01:18:29,730 --> 01:18:33,180
the Houthis are, but again, as I
said, the Houthis have limited

1323
01:18:33,180 --> 01:18:36,210
ability actually, to strike
Israel, they were reduced, you

1324
01:18:36,210 --> 01:18:38,670
know, to carrying out attacks
down around the Bab el Mandeb.

1325
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:41,460
And they are doing that, but I
believe that's a problem we can

1326
01:18:41,460 --> 01:18:44,040
solve. We may need to be a
little more aggressive about it

1327
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,320
than we've been today. But I
believe that's a solvable

1328
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,620
problem. But the larger issue
is, I don't think it leads to

1329
01:18:49,620 --> 01:18:50,370
escalation.

1330
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:53,970
Adam Curry: Okay, so no
escalation. It's a scam. By

1331
01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:54,660
obviously,

1332
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,840
John C Dvorak: you know, the
idea that the Houthi is might be

1333
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,770
working on our behalf is an
interesting one says, you know,

1334
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:05,160
people are getting killed left
and right. With them. Shipping

1335
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,400
has been stopped when money goes
around. But

1336
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,860
Adam Curry: wouldn't it make
sense since we had to sell all

1337
01:19:10,860 --> 01:19:15,480
the boats, we sold all of that
war machine material, and we

1338
01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:21,150
paid for a lot of the defense of
Saudi Arabia in Yemen, of the

1339
01:19:21,150 --> 01:19:25,380
two T's and the Houthi so the
Houthis were hitting our allies

1340
01:19:25,410 --> 01:19:29,190
and we need war there so that we
can make more war stuff and now

1341
01:19:29,190 --> 01:19:31,440
it's just more war. It's like,
oh, like this looks as another

1342
01:19:31,470 --> 01:19:32,250
opportunity.

1343
01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:35,640
John C Dvorak: So yeah, while
inopportune everything's in

1344
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:36,270
opportunity.

1345
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:38,040
Adam Curry: Why wouldn't you
have those guys be on our

1346
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:42,810
payroll? Hey, crank it up, boys.
And I remain the men that when I

1347
01:19:42,810 --> 01:19:45,840
saw them land on that ship,

1348
01:19:46,620 --> 01:19:50,190
John C Dvorak: with the with the
Houthi the Houthi banderas yeah

1349
01:19:50,220 --> 01:19:55,140
with with the GoPro the body
cams was the first person I

1350
01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:57,600
know. Let's say stage they

1351
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,330
Adam Curry: got the helicopter
landing and then went dump an

1352
01:20:00,330 --> 01:20:04,080
app that was very staged that
was that was production edited

1353
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,360
nicely put together, put it out
there.

1354
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:09,660
John C Dvorak: Why didn't we do
anything about it the helicopter

1355
01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:14,340
flying around by itself nobody
cares. Yeah, we got all kinds of

1356
01:20:14,370 --> 01:20:18,120
gunships and everything in
between on float around in a

1357
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,070
helicopter, through

1358
01:20:20,130 --> 01:20:22,740
Adam Curry: the Houthi heli is
on the loose, no worries

1359
01:20:23,670 --> 01:20:27,120
John C Dvorak: at all. And we
didn't know Oh, you didn't even

1360
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,450
see it. But, you know, we got
satellites all over the place.

1361
01:20:30,450 --> 01:20:31,770
Give me a break,

1362
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:36,570
Adam Curry: you know, one of
Tina's friends. You know, she

1363
01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:40,590
listens to the no agenda and her
I think, millennial daughter, I

1364
01:20:40,590 --> 01:20:45,000
have a quote. I, my, my
daughter, lecturing me about

1365
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,650
Palestine, told me that John and
Adam can afford not to take

1366
01:20:49,650 --> 01:20:56,880
sides because they're old white
men. Like, what does that even

1367
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,810
mean? I don't understand.
Because, you know, we don't have

1368
01:21:00,810 --> 01:21:06,240
to worry about it. You know, but
here's something Hello,

1369
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:06,900
children.

1370
01:21:07,230 --> 01:21:09,420
John C Dvorak: Nice. Bill. Dad
had to wait, wait before you

1371
01:21:09,420 --> 01:21:14,580
finish that thought that had to
be inculcated, because there has

1372
01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:18,030
to be some rationale that these
kids are fed because that sounds

1373
01:21:18,030 --> 01:21:21,090
like something you'd say,
without thinking. In other

1374
01:21:21,090 --> 01:21:24,090
words, you were brainwashed into
saying that it says it's like,

1375
01:21:24,810 --> 01:21:27,990
because there's no thought is in
a statement like that.

1376
01:21:29,010 --> 01:21:31,980
Adam Curry: It's part of
colonialism, I think. Okay,

1377
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:33,630
John C Dvorak: well, yeah,
that's what it is. I've always

1378
01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:34,740
been a colonialist.

1379
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,960
Adam Curry: That's right. You
have a very small colony of

1380
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,610
sanity in the Berkeley area.

1381
01:21:43,260 --> 01:21:46,110
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, it
hasn't Miscavige another meeting

1382
01:21:46,110 --> 01:21:48,390
in February at the mallard club.

1383
01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:50,760
Adam Curry: I'd love to have
some protests for what's

1384
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,230
happening in the Congo.

1385
01:21:52,830 --> 01:21:55,590
John C Dvorak: Three noble way
finish your thought on the on

1386
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:56,790
the girl. No,

1387
01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:59,160
Adam Curry: that's what I just
that's all the thought I have is

1388
01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:04,920
it's it's stupidity. It's been
indoctrinated. And and so the

1389
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,690
finishing of the thought is
while this

1390
01:22:06,690 --> 01:22:09,660
Unknown: security and logistical
challenges in Congo caused

1391
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:13,320
disruptions in today's
presidential election, almost 44

1392
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,830
million people were expected to
vote amid chaotic conditions.

1393
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:21,060
crowds grew agitated after poll
openings were delayed for hours

1394
01:22:21,060 --> 01:22:25,320
in the capital city of Kinshasa,
and smudged ink on voting cards

1395
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,370
slowed the process. As a result,
balloting will be extended until

1396
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:29,880
tomorrow.

1397
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:33,630
Adam Curry: So the New York
Times has a big article today

1398
01:22:33,630 --> 01:22:38,640
called the overlooked crisis in
Congo, we live in war. How many

1399
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,570
people do you think have have
been killed in the past few

1400
01:22:42,570 --> 01:22:43,860
years in Congo?

1401
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:47,580
John C Dvorak: Is this the
Democratic Republic of the

1402
01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:48,090
Congo?

1403
01:22:48,660 --> 01:22:49,470
Adam Curry: Yes.

1404
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:53,790
John C Dvorak: I would say how
many people in the past year now

1405
01:22:53,790 --> 01:22:56,370
Adam Curry: the past couple of
years this this has been going

1406
01:22:56,430 --> 01:22:57,630
on for a few years?

1407
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:06,180
John C Dvorak: I would say
100,000 6 million. But where's

1408
01:23:06,180 --> 01:23:09,660
the protests? The exactly
million that's three times the

1409
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:12,180
population of Gaza. 6

1410
01:23:12,180 --> 01:23:18,000
Adam Curry: million now lurching
into a volatile new phase, that

1411
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,300
no one cares. You know why
they're black racists. That's

1412
01:23:21,300 --> 01:23:21,840
why

1413
01:23:22,050 --> 01:23:25,740
John C Dvorak: I bet you no one
could identify a Congo flag. No,

1414
01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:28,110
Adam Curry: but they can they
sure know what a Palestine flag

1415
01:23:28,110 --> 01:23:34,920
looks like. Yeah, it's it's,
that's that's what gets my goat.

1416
01:23:35,940 --> 01:23:38,610
It's like, Please be quiet. You
don't care about people. You've

1417
01:23:38,610 --> 01:23:42,240
been programmed to say
something. That's all this

1418
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:42,750
happening.

1419
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
couldn't identify half these

1420
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,210
places on a map. No,

1421
01:23:48,210 --> 01:23:50,490
Adam Curry: there's that or the
Congo is actually pretty easy to

1422
01:23:50,490 --> 01:23:54,270
find is big. Just pointed the
middle of Africa. You pretty

1423
01:23:54,270 --> 01:23:56,190
much I'll hit it. That's about
it.

1424
01:23:58,770 --> 01:24:00,930
John C Dvorak: Now I have a
couple of hooey on international

1425
01:24:00,930 --> 01:24:07,950
stuff. I have to I've got a new
story category. Oh, okay. I call

1426
01:24:08,010 --> 01:24:14,760
WTF news. When you're managing
WTF news refers to I have two

1427
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,580
stories today. Actually. One of
them is not as good as the

1428
01:24:17,580 --> 01:24:21,540
other. But WTF news. These are
stories that you hear them and

1429
01:24:21,540 --> 01:24:26,220
use. And you wonder, did you
know this in the least this is

1430
01:24:26,220 --> 01:24:29,130
like again from anti D because
they they'll report on stuff

1431
01:24:29,130 --> 01:24:32,790
that why isn't this on the
network's

1432
01:24:34,140 --> 01:24:38,460
Adam Curry: on our networks? You
mean? Yeah. Okay. We'll find out

1433
01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:41,190
as soon as we get to it which
story? It will

1434
01:24:41,190 --> 01:24:44,280
Unknown: Venezuela turning our
attention now to South America,

1435
01:24:44,310 --> 01:24:48,120
Venezuela is fraying. 10 jailed
Americans and exchange for the

1436
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,170
release of Colombian businessman
Alex Saab. He was arrested on a

1437
01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:57,570
US warrant back in 2020. For
funneling some $350 million from

1438
01:24:57,570 --> 01:25:01,890
a Venezuelan housing program saw
As a close ally of Venezuelan

1439
01:25:01,890 --> 01:25:05,700
President Nicolas Maduro, US
officials often referred to him

1440
01:25:05,700 --> 01:25:09,240
as Maduro as a bag man. As for
the released Americans,

1441
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:12,960
according to the White House six
among the 10 were wrongfully

1442
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,500
detained by the socialist
regime, Venezuela will free at

1443
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:20,850
least 20 Venezuelans as well,
including political prisoners.

1444
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,790
As part of the agreement.
Venezuela will also extradite

1445
01:25:23,790 --> 01:25:27,510
Leonard Francis, a defense
contractor known as fat leonard,

1446
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:30,810
who orchestrated one of the
largest bribery schemes in the

1447
01:25:30,810 --> 01:25:34,920
history of the US military. The
scandal took down nearly two

1448
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:39,120
dozen Navy officials. Francis
fled the US ahead of his

1449
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,810
scheduled sentencing last year
and has since stayed in South

1450
01:25:42,810 --> 01:25:44,670
America. It's

1451
01:25:44,670 --> 01:25:46,200
Adam Curry: interesting, I had
this story,

1452
01:25:46,590 --> 01:25:49,680
John C Dvorak: that Leonard fat
leonard Yeah, I had the

1453
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,470
Adam Curry: fat leonard story.
And here's the question I have

1454
01:25:53,490 --> 01:25:56,610
with and we said we had an
exchange we exchanged the

1455
01:25:56,670 --> 01:26:03,390
prisoners. Yeah. And my question
is, why are we giving special

1456
01:26:03,420 --> 01:26:07,590
preferential treatment to
Venezuelan illegal immigrants to

1457
01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:11,520
give them work permits when we
have this fat leonard deal going

1458
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,360
on? Was that part of the deal?
Hey, you know what you give us

1459
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,170
fat leonard. And we'll have, you
know, we'll give 15,000

1460
01:26:19,170 --> 01:26:22,020
Venezuelans who have crossed
over illegally, we'll give them

1461
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,100
work permits.

1462
01:26:24,180 --> 01:26:26,460
John C Dvorak: That has to be
part of that deal has to be

1463
01:26:26,460 --> 01:26:29,940
going on. And I think some of
the political prisoners will be

1464
01:26:29,940 --> 01:26:34,770
coming up here too. I'm sure of
it. And this fat lenders story,

1465
01:26:34,770 --> 01:26:40,050
though about taking down like 20
Naval executives, and it was the

1466
01:26:40,050 --> 01:26:43,770
biggest scam of bribery scandal
in the history of the United

1467
01:26:43,770 --> 01:26:46,740
States. I'd never heard of fat
leonard seen how does that

1468
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:48,900
happen? With our news media
seems

1469
01:26:48,900 --> 01:26:51,060
Adam Curry: to me that fat
learner needs to be shut up as

1470
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:53,700
what's going on. We need to get
that get back here. So we can

1471
01:26:53,700 --> 01:26:58,710
like stifle him? Yeah, I think
fat when it's a problem.

1472
01:27:00,810 --> 01:27:03,150
John C Dvorak: That Lynard fat
linens

1473
01:27:03,150 --> 01:27:10,590
Adam Curry: Oh, title, writing
it down as we speak. Okay. I

1474
01:27:10,590 --> 01:27:14,040
have a little bit of AI news,
which I'd like to share.

1475
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,670
John C Dvorak: I have a follow
up clip. Because I have some

1476
01:27:17,670 --> 01:27:21,810
thoughts on AI too. Because I
were at odds somewhat with

1477
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,010
insofar as AI is concerned, even
though we have a great AI clip

1478
01:27:26,010 --> 01:27:29,880
at the end of the show mix. At
least in my opinion. Oh, yes.

1479
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:33,120
Adam Curry: It's not AI. That's
actually one of our guys doing

1480
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:33,810
that voice.

1481
01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:37,950
John C Dvorak: Well, it's might
as well be AI. No, it's the way

1482
01:27:37,950 --> 01:27:38,670
I see it. That

1483
01:27:38,670 --> 01:27:41,550
Adam Curry: is a tough way to
see it. Yeah, it's a talented

1484
01:27:41,550 --> 01:27:45,360
person. Do you want it? Do you
have something you want to play?

1485
01:27:46,110 --> 01:27:46,530
Well,

1486
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,050
John C Dvorak: I want to, I want
you to play yours first. And

1487
01:27:49,050 --> 01:27:51,180
then I'll play my blue lip.
Well, I

1488
01:27:51,180 --> 01:27:53,310
Adam Curry: have I have a whole
setup. Okay, well, let

1489
01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:55,920
John C Dvorak: me just play
this. This was a fake video that

1490
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,860
I thought was hilarious. This
one's got a big scandal at all.

1491
01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:02,670
I forgot NBC are somebody you
gotta say they're suing. They

1492
01:28:02,670 --> 01:28:07,080
sued over it. And the whole
thing is a fake video of this of

1493
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,530
one of their anchors. Go ha.
This

1494
01:28:10,530 --> 01:28:12,810
Unknown: is good. And welcome to
a special edition of Meet the

1495
01:28:12,810 --> 01:28:16,080
Press. Now coming to you live
from beautiful Miami, Florida as

1496
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,690
we count down to the third
Republican presidential debate

1497
01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:22,800
hosted by NBC News. I'm Garrett
Hake live from our NBC News

1498
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,980
debate Hall spin room where we
are just hours away from five

1499
01:28:25,980 --> 01:28:29,700
Republican candidates taking the
stage. Tonight. It's arguably a

1500
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:32,850
game of survival as the field
faces major questions about the

1501
01:28:32,850 --> 01:28:36,060
state of their own campaigns and
the state of this race. With

1502
01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:38,940
front runner Donald Trump
maintaining his commanding lead

1503
01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:43,740
and once again, skipping the
contest. This is Ron DeSantis

1504
01:28:43,890 --> 01:28:46,680
and establishment Rhino that
wears insoles in his boots in

1505
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,640
order to look taller. And this
is Nikki Haley. Nobody really

1506
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,970
gives a shit about Mettler
Haley. This guy is probably just

1507
01:28:53,970 --> 01:28:58,410
a stagehand Who the fuck invited
this guy, and this guy is

1508
01:28:58,410 --> 01:29:02,040
probably just delivering pizzas.
Anyway, nobody cares about these

1509
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,650
bullshit Rhino debates,
especially when you know that

1510
01:29:04,650 --> 01:29:06,570
Donald Trump is going to kick
some ass tonight.

1511
01:29:21,930 --> 01:29:23,880
John C Dvorak: So they have
Trump at the end, of course. Now

1512
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:29,130
if that's the that's the job.
I'm seeing this as the way Trump

1513
01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:33,600
used Twitter in 2016. Yes, you
use social media. I don't know

1514
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,620
whose gives him these ideas. But
this is the Trump campaign,

1515
01:29:38,190 --> 01:29:43,350
using AI and doing crazy videos
like this thing was, if you can,

1516
01:29:43,410 --> 01:29:45,990
people can track it nowadays,
most of us but most of the

1517
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:50,820
copies have been taken down.
Because NBC NBC so irked about

1518
01:29:50,820 --> 01:29:53,940
they sued them. And they sued
the Trump campaign and they

1519
01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:57,690
pulled it they but that is out
there. Yeah. And it's funny to

1520
01:29:57,690 --> 01:30:00,210
watch because when they say this
guy's delivering pizza then they

1521
01:30:00,210 --> 01:30:04,800
show Vivix. And they show I
don't know who this guy is like

1522
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:09,900
it may be a janitor. And they
that's that was Scott. Yeah, it

1523
01:30:09,900 --> 01:30:14,130
was. It was very, very insulting
and funny this is

1524
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,160
Adam Curry: this is this is the
whole point is AI and you could

1525
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,460
have done. I mean, no one knows
Garrett Hake really? I mean, he

1526
01:30:20,460 --> 01:30:23,820
could have done it with a voice
actor but okay, we'll call it AI

1527
01:30:23,850 --> 01:30:28,620
fine. That's the business model.
That's all there is people are

1528
01:30:28,620 --> 01:30:32,010
afraid of the boy is gonna do
all that people are gonna fall

1529
01:30:32,010 --> 01:30:35,820
for the fake No, no, it's used
for humor. It's used for comedy.

1530
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,300
John C Dvorak: I agree with you.
This is nobody's falling for

1531
01:30:39,300 --> 01:30:42,780
this. Oh, and the fact that NBC
sued and when you could say it

1532
01:30:42,780 --> 01:30:45,840
was a parody, they you could
have countersued and kept it up.

1533
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:48,690
But it's better to be sued and
take it down. That's what you

1534
01:30:48,690 --> 01:30:52,170
want. Yes, more publicity. So it
makes it look better. And then

1535
01:30:52,170 --> 01:30:55,320
people go seek it out because I
had to do that. And you know, it

1536
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,860
took some time I found it. And
then you get to watch and you

1537
01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:01,500
crack up. And you know, these
guys are all freaked out about

1538
01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:08,070
it. This is totally AI is is is
just for humor, and it's very

1539
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:09,330
good at it. AI is

1540
01:31:09,330 --> 01:31:12,990
Adam Curry: for humor. And we
have some humor coming up. But

1541
01:31:12,990 --> 01:31:16,530
first, we need to have some
teeth put behind the executive

1542
01:31:16,530 --> 01:31:20,310
order that President Biden put
in place. Because AI is so

1543
01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:25,140
dangerous. It's dangerous. It's
racist is what it is. So we

1544
01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:29,730
found a case. Ha, boy, I'm so
happy we can prove that we need

1545
01:31:29,730 --> 01:31:31,980
these laws for AI earlier today,

1546
01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:35,580
Unknown: big news from the FTC
or Federal Trade Commission as

1547
01:31:35,580 --> 01:31:39,060
it banned Rite Aid from using
facial recognition technology

1548
01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:43,380
and its stores for five years.
Why? Well, according to the FTC,

1549
01:31:43,890 --> 01:31:46,950
Adam Curry: Don't you hate it
when they do that? Why,

1550
01:31:46,980 --> 01:31:51,510
John C Dvorak: why? Why? Why?
Well, if you leave that out, if

1551
01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:55,080
you leave the why out? It
actually flows

1552
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,600
Adam Curry: better. No, but
yeah, it's a thing. It's like

1553
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,810
people do that. Why? Well, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna educate you.

1554
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:01,380
Well, according

1555
01:32:01,380 --> 01:32:04,380
Unknown: to the FTC, the
drugstore giants secretly used

1556
01:32:04,380 --> 01:32:07,440
it for nearly a decade for
surveillance purposes. But they

1557
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:10,710
wrongly accused many of
shoplifting in the process. And

1558
01:32:10,710 --> 01:32:14,010
they falsely accused the people
that they did, were more likely

1559
01:32:14,010 --> 01:32:17,850
to be people of color or women.
In a statement writing that,

1560
01:32:17,850 --> 01:32:20,610
quote, We are pleased to reach
an agreement with the FTC and

1561
01:32:20,610 --> 01:32:23,850
put this matter behind us.
However, we fundamentally

1562
01:32:23,850 --> 01:32:26,820
disagree with the facial
recognition allegations in the

1563
01:32:26,820 --> 01:32:30,270
agency's complaint. Let's bring
in NBC News technology

1564
01:32:30,270 --> 01:32:31,590
correspondent Jake Ward,

1565
01:32:32,010 --> 01:32:34,530
Adam Curry: Jake Ward, have you
ever come across Jake ward? He's

1566
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:36,960
the NBC technology
correspondent, Surely you've

1567
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:42,840
heard of Jake ward? No. So Jake
Ward is going to explain he's

1568
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,620
gonna explain to us and I like
this. I like that, hey, you

1569
01:32:46,620 --> 01:32:51,390
know, what they are AI is
identifying chicks and blacks.

1570
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:54,870
They are thievin Magic,
obviously,

1571
01:32:55,050 --> 01:32:57,060
Unknown: a lot of questions,
people probably wondering around

1572
01:32:57,060 --> 01:33:00,390
this, like, what are the laws
that regulate, basically kick

1573
01:33:00,390 --> 01:33:04,110
the ball. So to the point that's
being made here in 2019, federal

1574
01:33:04,110 --> 01:33:07,860
agency found that Asian and
Black individuals were up to 100

1575
01:33:07,860 --> 01:33:10,110
times more likely to be
misidentified. So as the

1576
01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:12,600
technology also evolved since
then,

1577
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,720
Adam Curry: so this, this is the
only thing they have on AI,

1578
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:19,710
they're gonna go after
everything they can with this

1579
01:33:19,710 --> 01:33:23,850
one point, it's racist, because
old white men put it together is

1580
01:33:23,850 --> 01:33:24,780
racist.

1581
01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:27,720
Unknown: Well, let's say um, you
know, the technology has

1582
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:32,040
evolved, but unfortunately use
it seems to have degraded at

1583
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,350
least in right aids case mean,
right. That is the allegation

1584
01:33:34,350 --> 01:33:37,080
that FTC is basically coming
through this is the

1585
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:41,100
Adam Curry: FTC. Are they? Do
they? Are they a judicial

1586
01:33:41,130 --> 01:33:43,500
agency? Do they have the right
to do this?

1587
01:33:44,370 --> 01:33:47,250
John C Dvorak: I think so.
Commission is

1588
01:33:47,250 --> 01:33:49,320
Unknown: going to hear, you
know, basically, if you walked

1589
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,380
into a Rite Aid in a large urban
center of Baltimore,

1590
01:33:52,380 --> 01:33:55,470
Philadelphia, San Francisco
between 2012 and 2020, you were

1591
01:33:55,470 --> 01:33:57,270
picked up by this facial
recognition system. And I've

1592
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:58,140
been speaking with people, how

1593
01:33:58,140 --> 01:34:01,110
Adam Curry: many white people
are in Rite Aid in Baltimore?

1594
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:05,580
Just Just a question offhand.
You know, I'm just like,

1595
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:10,350
Baltimore is pretty black. It's
a very black area,

1596
01:34:10,410 --> 01:34:12,360
Unknown: we're close to this
project. And they say, you know,

1597
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:16,290
initially, the idea was, that
people would then come to you

1598
01:34:16,290 --> 01:34:19,830
having, you know, matched your
photo to a very high tech

1599
01:34:19,830 --> 01:34:23,250
database of other repeat
shoplifters. And then the idea

1600
01:34:23,250 --> 01:34:25,380
was that the staff member would
somehow come over and just say,

1601
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:29,760
Excuse me, sir, may I help you
and by being kind of greeted in

1602
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,150
that very polite high touch way,
you'd be embarrassed and you'd

1603
01:34:33,150 --> 01:34:35,280
leave that was sort of going to
be the original idea.

1604
01:34:36,690 --> 01:34:39,510
Adam Curry: You'd be embarrassed
and kind of leave like oh, I

1605
01:34:39,510 --> 01:34:43,230
didn't steal anything. Be be
embarrassed AI is embarrassed

1606
01:34:43,230 --> 01:34:44,970
John C Dvorak: embarrassed by
somebody come over say can I

1607
01:34:44,970 --> 01:34:47,400
help you? That happens all the
time. But over

1608
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,980
Unknown: the years, Sam, I mean,
you know, right. The money paid

1609
01:34:49,980 --> 01:34:51,900
to retail clerks has stayed the
same while their

1610
01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:54,630
responsibilities have gone up
and up and up right morale

1611
01:34:54,630 --> 01:34:57,150
staffing problems, the rest of
it mean it's in an environment

1612
01:34:57,150 --> 01:34:59,250
of really, you know,
dysfunctional a really

1613
01:34:59,250 --> 01:35:02,940
dysfunctional A market, you
suddenly have employees trying

1614
01:35:02,940 --> 01:35:05,760
to deal with a lot of
shoplifting Oh, the poor

1615
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:10,560
employees and not in a sensitive
way. And it turns out not in a

1616
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,200
way where you could rely on the
technology. The FTC says that

1617
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,350
1000s of people were falsely
identified as shoplet. Write

1618
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,740
John C Dvorak: this report. He's
just rambling, telling us

1619
01:35:19,740 --> 01:35:20,670
anything, after

1620
01:35:20,670 --> 01:35:23,160
Unknown: hours, even though you
know, the technology in theory

1621
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:26,160
can be better. The people who
were not trained, they would

1622
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,500
hold people out of line,
embarrass them in front of their

1623
01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:32,160
colleagues, their families,
their friends, all that, you

1624
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,010
know, this high minded ambition,
that Rite Aid and many other

1625
01:35:35,010 --> 01:35:38,010
sources seem to have had with
facial recognition did not work

1626
01:35:38,010 --> 01:35:40,380
out such that the FTC has now
banned that company from using

1627
01:35:40,380 --> 01:35:41,070
it for five years.

1628
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,190
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, the TSA
uses that every single day that

1629
01:35:44,190 --> 01:35:46,470
when you go to the airport,
they're scanning your face.

1630
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:49,950
They're approving you based upon
facial recognition, airlines are

1631
01:35:49,950 --> 01:35:53,250
checking you in automatically
just by looking at a camera. No

1632
01:35:53,250 --> 01:35:54,990
report on that. Jake ward.

1633
01:35:55,020 --> 01:35:57,810
Unknown: So the enforcement
obviously is a challenge to put

1634
01:35:57,810 --> 01:36:01,230
it mildly. I'm also wondering,
Jake, companies like Rite Aid, I

1635
01:36:01,230 --> 01:36:03,660
mean, we talked about the fact
this was done secretly, at least

1636
01:36:03,660 --> 01:36:07,350
those are the allegations from
the FTC. Do you have to disclose

1637
01:36:07,380 --> 01:36:09,060
if you're using this kind of
technology?

1638
01:36:10,350 --> 01:36:14,610
Yes, you do now, and that is
what is so interesting. The

1639
01:36:14,610 --> 01:36:18,120
reason that this is such a big
deal in the tech world is this

1640
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,640
is the FTC, I've been speaking
to sources close to that agency.

1641
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:24,210
And they say that this is part
of the FTC effort to try to stop

1642
01:36:24,210 --> 01:36:28,440
the large scale practice of
essentially experimenting on all

1643
01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:32,070
of us when it comes to big data,
except with the government wants

1644
01:36:32,070 --> 01:36:33,960
to do it at the airport. And
that's not just going to be

1645
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,960
facial recognition systems, it's
going to be things like AI,

1646
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:41,370
right? Last minute people to
collect all kinds of data on all

1647
01:36:41,370 --> 01:36:44,520
of us, and experiment in the
wild on the kind of conclusions

1648
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:48,060
you can reach using that stuff.
The FTC is saying no more. In

1649
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:51,330
this case, one of the
punishments being levied against

1650
01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:54,300
Rite Aid is they have to delete
the database that they had

1651
01:36:54,300 --> 01:36:57,420
assembled across all the stores
across the nation, they don't

1652
01:36:57,420 --> 01:36:58,140
get to just sort of

1653
01:36:59,700 --> 01:37:02,640
John C Dvorak: make a backup,
then delete it, or try again,

1654
01:37:02,670 --> 01:37:06,120
Unknown: that is a big cost to
any kind of tech driven company.

1655
01:37:06,300 --> 01:37:08,880
You know, in addition, they
basically say that, you know,

1656
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,370
this kind of new standard that
you're gonna have to really

1657
01:37:11,370 --> 01:37:14,880
prove that this thing works on
an ongoing basis is also going

1658
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,260
to apply getting off the

1659
01:37:16,260 --> 01:37:18,060
Adam Curry: hook. All right,
he's done. All right.

1660
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:21,150
John C Dvorak: Jay Z's on and on
and on about nothing. It was so

1661
01:37:21,150 --> 01:37:21,720
what?

1662
01:37:22,740 --> 01:37:26,760
Adam Curry: Alright, now we get
to the information, the info

1663
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,060
Mavericks, the info Mavericks,
there was a big info Maverick

1664
01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:32,880
meeting, at Turning Point USA

1665
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,700
John C Dvorak: or your buddy. So
yeah, though, yeah. To be info

1666
01:37:35,700 --> 01:37:37,620
Maverick club, the info Maverick

1667
01:37:37,620 --> 01:37:40,950
Adam Curry: club, in this case,
at turning point, USA onstage a

1668
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:46,080
live pool boy podcast, with our
hero, the pool boy, along with

1669
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:51,210
Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk,
James O'Keefe. I mean, this is

1670
01:37:51,210 --> 01:37:52,620
the creme de la creme of the

1671
01:37:53,010 --> 01:37:55,530
John C Dvorak: Mavericks, the
cream of the Maverick and let's

1672
01:37:55,530 --> 01:37:55,800
hear

1673
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,580
Adam Curry: how afraid they are
of AI and how AI is going to eat

1674
01:37:59,580 --> 01:37:59,760
the

1675
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,060
Unknown: world. We may be we may
be past the event horizon, the

1676
01:38:03,060 --> 01:38:05,850
point at which you know towards
AI is so great. There's no

1677
01:38:05,850 --> 01:38:08,310
backing away from it, what we're
being so faster and fast, I

1678
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:10,680
think you can go into it with
these neural nets. A human that

1679
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,590
understands the code can go into
the system, be in the virtual

1680
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:16,950
realm and reverse engineer the
AI and see what's happening and

1681
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:18,090
how it's being run in real time.

1682
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,200
Stay with it gets better.

1683
01:38:22,230 --> 01:38:24,960
Maybe I would just do with the
keyboard. But I'm not going into

1684
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,210
that. But listen, this is this
was Elon Musk's argument, we

1685
01:38:27,210 --> 01:38:30,810
must integrate with the machine,
Terminator like scenario. And

1686
01:38:30,810 --> 01:38:32,850
that's the word we think this is
going to end well. I mean,

1687
01:38:32,850 --> 01:38:36,420
honestly, like, this is the
scary this is what people need

1688
01:38:36,420 --> 01:38:39,810
to understand about about the
singularity event when a I hold

1689
01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:41,670
Adam Curry: on to this where
people don't understand I'm

1690
01:38:41,670 --> 01:38:43,950
appalled by this when people
aren't going to say right, I was

1691
01:38:43,950 --> 01:38:46,050
gonna understand this because
it's very important. It's very

1692
01:38:46,050 --> 01:38:46,800
important. Like,

1693
01:38:46,860 --> 01:38:48,600
Unknown: this is the scary this
is what people need to

1694
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,260
understand about about the
singularity event when AI when

1695
01:38:52,260 --> 01:38:54,630
it actually turns on when we
reach Artificial General

1696
01:38:54,630 --> 01:38:57,960
Intelligence might be there. And
we might be there. No, it isn't.

1697
01:38:58,050 --> 01:39:00,750
It's a point at which the
machine itself beat

1698
01:39:01,110 --> 01:39:05,580
exponentially improves itself.
So if the rate of growth for the

1699
01:39:05,610 --> 01:39:08,490
the computer systems that we're
building is say more as live

1700
01:39:08,490 --> 01:39:09,690
doubles every two years,

1701
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:14,760
Adam Curry: that's not Moore's
law. It doubles every two years.

1702
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:16,170
Generally,

1703
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,440
Unknown: we're building is say
more as live doubles every two

1704
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:23,460
years. Once we reach the point
of AI singularity, or I guess

1705
01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:25,980
you could call it Artificial
General Intelligence, straight

1706
01:39:25,980 --> 01:39:29,220
to the top, right up to the
point of near infinity, where

1707
01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:32,460
this machine is improving
itself, learning faster and

1708
01:39:32,460 --> 01:39:35,940
faster and calculating faster.
And then it's beyond our our

1709
01:39:35,940 --> 01:39:38,490
comprehension. Yeah, I

1710
01:39:38,490 --> 01:39:41,070
John C Dvorak: saw the movie The
Forbin Project Colossus, The

1711
01:39:41,070 --> 01:39:45,090
Forbin Project recently. It does
exactly what he described as the

1712
01:39:46,020 --> 01:39:49,020
Adam Curry: man. The hell yes,
we're all going to die.

1713
01:39:49,230 --> 01:39:52,050
John C Dvorak: The AI system.
Project, go check it out.

1714
01:39:52,050 --> 01:39:52,380
People.

1715
01:39:52,410 --> 01:39:54,810
Adam Curry: We've talked about
it. I've watched it. You can get

1716
01:39:54,810 --> 01:39:57,810
it on YouTube. This is
fantastic. Oh, yeah.

1717
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,350
John C Dvorak: And it's old.
It's from the 60s. Isn't it 70s?

1718
01:40:01,620 --> 01:40:05,910
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, guys on
emacs doing Lisp rolling their

1719
01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:08,250
eyes. So well My

1720
01:40:08,250 --> 01:40:10,590
John C Dvorak: thing is there's
you're gonna get a neural net,

1721
01:40:11,190 --> 01:40:16,920
which is going to go and kind of
D. Disassemble the code somehow,

1722
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,640
huh? Yeah. Yeah. And then you're
gonna be able to go in there

1723
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,130
because you've disassembled the
code with a neural net and then

1724
01:40:23,130 --> 01:40:26,490
you can fool around i This is
nuts. These people

1725
01:40:26,490 --> 01:40:30,030
Adam Curry: are no good for
your, for your mental health.

1726
01:40:30,450 --> 01:40:33,600
Nor are the next people. Now
this is I'm gonna bring in a

1727
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:34,440
professor now.

1728
01:40:36,150 --> 01:40:37,710
John C Dvorak: Galloway, Shaw

1729
01:40:37,710 --> 01:40:40,740
Adam Curry: so close. It's so
close. It is from the pivot

1730
01:40:40,740 --> 01:40:44,820
show, which I might point out is
the award winning technology

1731
01:40:44,820 --> 01:40:48,150
podcast, award winning. I've
never heard him talking about

1732
01:40:48,150 --> 01:40:52,080
technology. It's the award
winning technology podcast. And

1733
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:57,330
they have a bunch of predictions
for 2024. And they bring in a

1734
01:40:57,330 --> 01:41:03,990
Stanford professor of AI to to
predict what is going to happen

1735
01:41:04,020 --> 01:41:06,690
in 2024. Okay, Scott. Now

1736
01:41:06,690 --> 01:41:09,030
Unknown: let's hear a prediction
from Dr. Fei Fei Li.

1737
01:41:10,110 --> 01:41:16,980
Oh, hi, Taryn Scott. This is Fei
Fei Li. I'm Sequoia Professor of

1738
01:41:17,010 --> 01:41:21,630
Computer Science at Stanford.
Denning, co director of Stanford

1739
01:41:21,690 --> 01:41:26,760
Institute for Human Centered AI,
and the author of The she AI.

1740
01:41:28,110 --> 01:41:31,890
Adam Curry: I think she's Asian.
Her name is fufu are far far.

1741
01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:38,610
She's obviously a I know she's
not code and code for us. And I

1742
01:41:38,610 --> 01:41:41,130
love that she used to McCoy a
professor, you know how that

1743
01:41:41,130 --> 01:41:44,820
works. Hi, I'm Mike Morris from
Sequoia we're going to give you

1744
01:41:44,820 --> 01:41:48,450
$100 million. But whenever your
professor goes on pivot and

1745
01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:52,320
award winning technology
podcast, she has to say hello, I

1746
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,350
am the Sequoia professor. You

1747
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:58,080
John C Dvorak: know, the joke of
that is that when I hear the

1748
01:41:58,110 --> 01:42:03,660
Sequoia professor, I think of a
tree. I don't think the VC can

1749
01:42:03,660 --> 01:42:06,900
Adam Curry: pie. I'm the Pfizer
professor, but listen to listen

1750
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:09,750
to her prediction. Now this is
this is where you know they'll

1751
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:12,000
shut up now you know, it's boom

1752
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:13,740
Unknown: Ooh, crap.

1753
01:42:14,580 --> 01:42:19,620
This is Fei Fei Li. I'm Sequoia
Professor of Computer Science at

1754
01:42:19,620 --> 01:42:24,330
Stanford. Denning, co director
of Stanford Institute for Human

1755
01:42:24,330 --> 01:42:30,240
Centered AI, and the author of
the book The world's I see. My

1756
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:35,220
prediction for AI in 2024 is
that the technology will

1757
01:42:35,220 --> 01:42:41,850
continue to deepen and widen but
a very impressive speed, we're

1758
01:42:41,850 --> 01:42:48,600
gonna see more multimodal large
models beyond language into the

1759
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:56,130
domain of perception and world
modeling. We will also see AI

1760
01:42:56,130 --> 01:43:01,530
continue to create a lot of
discussion among the public and

1761
01:43:01,530 --> 01:43:07,920
policymakers as we experienced
the messy impact of AI in our

1762
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:12,930
society, in our industry. Thank
you. Okay,

1763
01:43:13,590 --> 01:43:17,100
but what was that? Exactly?

1764
01:43:17,580 --> 01:43:20,250
Adam Curry: I think that
technology will widen and deepen

1765
01:43:20,820 --> 01:43:25,470
the, okay. Bullshit, it will,
everything's going to widen and

1766
01:43:25,470 --> 01:43:30,690
deepen as you dig deeper from
this bowl. And it will become

1767
01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:34,260
multimodal. Now. I've been
following this now. Now. I'm so

1768
01:43:34,290 --> 01:43:39,360
irked by this by this scam, that
I'm following multimodal means

1769
01:43:39,390 --> 01:43:43,260
it will be able to you will
build large language models with

1770
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:48,660
video and images and voice and
audio. So yeah, put our podcast

1771
01:43:48,660 --> 01:43:54,780
in there, please. And she
predicts Glo world modeling this

1772
01:43:54,780 --> 01:43:59,700
is the new buzz term. World
might even mean I'm glad you

1773
01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:03,030
asked. I'm asking from the
university I got a quick

1774
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:08,670
splinter of world modeling also
known as General world model.

1775
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:09,570
The thing

1776
01:44:09,570 --> 01:44:13,620
Unknown: is, alums only know
about language. What if we

1777
01:44:13,620 --> 01:44:17,280
applied the same big data big
model approach to how we

1778
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:21,990
generate videos? Well, that's
what we're calling general

1779
01:44:22,020 --> 01:44:27,300
worlds models. GW Adams, and we
believe that they're the next

1780
01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:33,660
big thing. Similar to LLM
general worlds models are given

1781
01:44:33,690 --> 01:44:38,160
a large amount of data, but not
just text. It's also given

1782
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,910
videos, images and audio,
everything you'd need in order

1783
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:45,060
to understand how the world
works. And with all this

1784
01:44:45,060 --> 01:44:48,360
information, the models build
out sort of a mental map for

1785
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:54,900
themselves. And this is where my
dog comes in. Hi Ruben. Ruben

1786
01:44:54,900 --> 01:44:57,660
also has an internal model of
the world based on things he

1787
01:44:57,660 --> 01:45:01,680
knows. And it looks something
like this He learned that if we

1788
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,920
go this way, there's a higher
chance of us going to the park.

1789
01:45:05,460 --> 01:45:08,160
And if we go that way, there's a
dog that kind of looks at him

1790
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:12,360
funny. He knows that there's
usually sidewalk chicken scraps

1791
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:16,470
right here. And that these
stores known as pet stores that

1792
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:20,100
have the tweets that he likes,
once we get to the park, this is

1793
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:24,060
where all the bus sniffing
happens. With all of this data,

1794
01:45:24,090 --> 01:45:27,750
the sights, sounds,
relationships of things, Rubin

1795
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:31,080
has figured out how to predict
certain outcomes and adjust his

1796
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,800
behaviors, just like the general
world model.

1797
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,990
Adam Curry: So there you have
it, a far cry from the fear

1798
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:43,920
mongering from the pool boy and
the info Mavericks, the level

1799
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:48,570
that they're talking about for
2024 is a dog who knows when you

1800
01:45:48,570 --> 01:45:52,920
turn right, but sniffing will
happen. This is this is the

1801
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:58,080
future. That's from the
university.

1802
01:45:59,190 --> 01:46:01,590
John C Dvorak: And yeah, and
they were no, they were a big

1803
01:46:01,590 --> 01:46:06,030
disrobe that Stanford was big,
big, big in the 80s. You can but

1804
01:46:06,030 --> 01:46:08,790
sniff and they're always big.
And but sniffing everybody who's

1805
01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:11,130
ever been there knows that you
have to be careful, by the way

1806
01:46:11,130 --> 01:46:12,030
you go.

1807
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:19,260
Adam Curry: The bud sniffing is
could be very bad. So it's, it's

1808
01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:28,440
nothing. It is. I'm telling you,
they're gonna pivot to quantum

1809
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:32,250
computing. No, they have to,
they have to know

1810
01:46:32,250 --> 01:46:34,740
John C Dvorak: that. There's no
logical pivot there. There's

1811
01:46:34,770 --> 01:46:37,290
they're going to pivot I'm not
going to argue the point the

1812
01:46:37,290 --> 01:46:41,250
pivot is climate, they always do
that the pivot pivot from Ai

1813
01:46:41,250 --> 01:46:44,280
they did in the 80s. They did in
the 50s. Well, hold

1814
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,220
Adam Curry: on, hold on. This is
a good point, when in the 50s,

1815
01:46:47,820 --> 01:46:52,140
neither you or I know but in the
80s, when they pivoted away when

1816
01:46:52,140 --> 01:46:55,560
the AI Winter came in the 80s
word that they pivot to,

1817
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,270
John C Dvorak: they will do all
I can tell well, they pivoted to

1818
01:47:00,270 --> 01:47:06,780
the internet, I believe. And
they they bailed on the AI. And

1819
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:10,050
the thing is, the funny thing
about the Stanford woman is that

1820
01:47:10,050 --> 01:47:15,210
Stanford was one of the two sort
of one of the two main AI areas

1821
01:47:15,210 --> 01:47:19,740
who was Stanford and I think was
MIT. And and I think Carnegie

1822
01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:23,760
Mellon has some maybe had their
toe in the water. But when they

1823
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,030
bailed they basically destroyed
all their research to a lot of

1824
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:29,970
the research has been just they
got rid of it because it was too

1825
01:47:29,970 --> 01:47:36,150
embarrassing. And they had to
start over they people would dug

1826
01:47:36,150 --> 01:47:40,290
up some of the old stuff is
really got to kick started a new

1827
01:47:40,290 --> 01:47:46,320
AI movement. The right there. I
don't know, I think I don't know

1828
01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:46,650
the

1829
01:47:46,650 --> 01:47:50,040
Adam Curry: reason. The reason
why I say quantum computers is a

1830
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,680
because it's not real, be well,
it's

1831
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,810
John C Dvorak: been around but
it's already been there as we're

1832
01:47:54,810 --> 01:47:59,550
already past the quantum
computing fad. Okay,

1833
01:47:59,580 --> 01:48:03,000
Adam Curry: this is a headline
from the hill. If countries are

1834
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:07,290
serious about climate change,
they better get serious about

1835
01:48:07,290 --> 01:48:12,930
quantum computing. And the story
goes like this quantum computing

1836
01:48:12,930 --> 01:48:17,070
uses laws of quantum physics to
store and process information

1837
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:21,570
and rapidly solve complex
problems. Quantum computers

1838
01:48:21,570 --> 01:48:26,190
available today require
additional maturation to deliver

1839
01:48:26,190 --> 01:48:30,390
on their full potential. Then
here it is, quantum computers

1840
01:48:30,570 --> 01:48:34,890
will be able to accelerate
improvements in batteries, which

1841
01:48:34,890 --> 01:48:39,180
are pivotable to the pivotal to
the renewable energy transition.

1842
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:43,500
And they keep going on about oh,
companies like BMW are

1843
01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:47,070
investigating the use of quantum
computers to identify optimal

1844
01:48:47,070 --> 01:48:51,330
locations to install electric
vehicle charging stations. Why

1845
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:56,370
you need a quantum computer for
that? How bows are likely none.

1846
01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:01,140
Daimler partner with IBM to use
quantum simulation to better

1847
01:49:01,140 --> 01:49:04,860
understand lithium sulfur
batteries and explore how to

1848
01:49:04,860 --> 01:49:09,390
boost batteries charge capacity,
diminish energy loss via heat

1849
01:49:09,390 --> 01:49:12,570
and lower production costs.
Doesn't that sound a lot like

1850
01:49:12,570 --> 01:49:13,290
AI?

1851
01:49:15,060 --> 01:49:19,470
John C Dvorak: Well, what you're
saying my interpretation of what

1852
01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:26,340
you're getting at is that you
see such a smokescreen of BS

1853
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:31,410
that well there's a smokescreen
of BS here. Yes. So why don't we

1854
01:49:31,410 --> 01:49:33,450
just move over to the other
smoke screen

1855
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:36,390
Adam Curry: went from blockchain
to AI. I mean, that was

1856
01:49:36,420 --> 01:49:40,110
smokescreen. smokescreen.
Everybody knew blockchain was

1857
01:49:40,110 --> 01:49:40,800
crap.

1858
01:49:41,730 --> 01:49:44,880
John C Dvorak: I don't think
blockchain was the was the entry

1859
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:45,960
point for AI?

1860
01:49:46,170 --> 01:49:48,840
Adam Curry: Not at all. Oh no.
For the markets charm for the

1861
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:54,030
markets. That was crypto and
blockchain and that was that was

1862
01:49:54,030 --> 01:49:58,740
right before Oh, now it's AI.
Oh, AI. What? No, I think it's a

1863
01:49:58,740 --> 01:50:02,580
separate track we need Need
reasons for Nvidia to overcharge

1864
01:50:02,580 --> 01:50:06,720
for their chips? Quantum is the
next way for that.

1865
01:50:07,230 --> 01:50:08,910
John C Dvorak: If you didn't
react bla, here's the problem

1866
01:50:08,910 --> 01:50:13,230
with that. The Nvidia chips
which are more or less perfect

1867
01:50:13,230 --> 01:50:17,220
for AI, because you get to, you
need so much computing power to

1868
01:50:17,220 --> 01:50:20,850
do the stupidest stuff,
including where a dog is fast.

1869
01:50:23,430 --> 01:50:28,890
It's like, yeah, nailed it.
Quantum Computing is a different

1870
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:33,120
type of computing. I mean, it's,
the architecture is totally

1871
01:50:33,150 --> 01:50:37,770
alien, and no one can do it. I
mean, we google claims to have

1872
01:50:37,770 --> 01:50:41,070
made a quantum computer that
solve some problem. And it's

1873
01:50:41,070 --> 01:50:45,870
there, I never bought into that
is bullcrap. The state this is a

1874
01:50:45,870 --> 01:50:46,470
joke.

1875
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:48,000
Unknown: The

1876
01:50:49,380 --> 01:50:55,710
Adam Curry: great article, how
artists are now sabotaging AI

1877
01:50:55,740 --> 01:51:00,660
with data poisoning. Have you
heard of this? No.

1878
01:51:00,660 --> 01:51:04,380
John C Dvorak: But this reminds
me of what vandals like to me

1879
01:51:04,380 --> 01:51:08,850
this vandalism. Yes. Yes. Well,
yeah. And vandals. Vandals are

1880
01:51:08,850 --> 01:51:12,960
out to just like, for example,
the driverless cars. Yeah, there

1881
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:18,510
is a subculture of vandals that
like to put like an X on a stop

1882
01:51:18,510 --> 01:51:23,190
sign or, or put some word over
the word stop on a stop sign or,

1883
01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:26,340
or take stop signs out where
they belong. And even though

1884
01:51:26,340 --> 01:51:30,600
it's still on the road, and do
stuff to screw up the driverless

1885
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:34,050
car. Yes. And it doesn't take
much. It turns out well,

1886
01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:38,160
Adam Curry: there's a tool
called Nightshade. And you run

1887
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:42,390
your image through nightshade,
and it alters the pixels in a

1888
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:50,280
way that screws up the way the
computer the AI looks at the

1889
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:54,480
image and what it interprets
from the image. So the example

1890
01:51:54,480 --> 01:52:00,390
they give here is you need an
image of a balloon. You'd prompt

1891
01:52:00,420 --> 01:52:03,510
red balloon against a blue sky
but it returns an egg

1892
01:52:07,980 --> 01:52:10,650
John C Dvorak: love this. I love
this. I love these guys.

1893
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:15,660
Adam Curry: Great. This is
fancy. So it's already becoming

1894
01:52:15,660 --> 01:52:20,160
just a great it's just great.
It's fun. The AI is entertaining

1895
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,170
and good for our show. That's
pretty much

1896
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,320
John C Dvorak: is that I think
the whole key is entertainment.

1897
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:29,400
Yes. That's all this is hardly
anything you want to worry

1898
01:52:29,460 --> 01:52:33,450
yourself sick about. Yeah, I
mean, it could get tedious at at

1899
01:52:33,450 --> 01:52:35,130
some point. But

1900
01:52:35,130 --> 01:52:38,130
Adam Curry: we have in that in
that thing. The poor boy brought

1901
01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:45,270
up something called Dead
internet. And dead internet is

1902
01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:50,430
this idea that everything on the
internet will just be a bot and

1903
01:52:50,430 --> 01:52:52,950
everything your this probably to
some degree there's already a

1904
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:58,200
lot of that going on. And that
you'll be you'll think that

1905
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:01,020
you'll be having conversations
with people we just talking with

1906
01:53:01,020 --> 01:53:03,390
bots all day long. I think
that's kind of we're already

1907
01:53:03,390 --> 01:53:03,750
there. I

1908
01:53:03,780 --> 01:53:06,900
John C Dvorak: think some people
can be stuck in that mode. Yeah,

1909
01:53:06,990 --> 01:53:07,290
yeah.

1910
01:53:07,290 --> 01:53:09,180
Adam Curry: Especially in cells.

1911
01:53:10,890 --> 01:53:12,300
John C Dvorak: organ cells.
Yeah,

1912
01:53:12,330 --> 01:53:13,800
Adam Curry: sadly, sadly.

1913
01:53:13,890 --> 01:53:16,830
John C Dvorak: Okay with this
cute female bots. She's She

1914
01:53:16,830 --> 01:53:22,110
loves me. She says if I sent her
enough money, she can get she

1915
01:53:22,110 --> 01:53:25,980
can leave South Carolina to I
guess she was a runner up to

1916
01:53:25,980 --> 01:53:29,430
miss South Carolina. She's gonna
move out here with me. I

1917
01:53:29,430 --> 01:53:31,410
Adam Curry: don't know if it's
just me but the the pig

1918
01:53:31,410 --> 01:53:35,880
butchering is at an all time
high right now. I am getting so

1919
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:40,050
many text messages. You know
that we know how this works.

1920
01:53:40,050 --> 01:53:43,650
We've discussed it several
times. The pig butchering where

1921
01:53:43,650 --> 01:53:47,940
they send you a note let me see
I have one here. From a 510 area

1922
01:53:47,940 --> 01:53:51,060
code. How are you? How's it
going? Okay, so we'll skip that

1923
01:53:51,060 --> 01:53:55,170
when there's more creative ones.
Let me see when was the other

1924
01:53:55,170 --> 01:53:59,850
one I had? Hey, I saved your
number but I didn't save your

1925
01:53:59,850 --> 01:54:03,480
name. Who are you? Yeah, no, no,
I'm gonna answer that area code

1926
01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:04,440
906

1927
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,190
John C Dvorak: What are they
what what are we talking about

1928
01:54:08,190 --> 01:54:08,970
here? He butchering

1929
01:54:08,970 --> 01:54:13,290
Adam Curry: where you reply. And
then and then and then they send

1930
01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:15,810
you know it's always some hot
Asian chick and then she sends

1931
01:54:15,810 --> 01:54:19,170
you an image like oh, you kind
of cute and then eventually you

1932
01:54:19,170 --> 01:54:22,380
wind up investing in some
cryptocurrency and you make

1933
01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:26,880
money. You make money because
it's a phony fake front. You

1934
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,030
make money and then they get you
to mortgage your house. It's a

1935
01:54:30,030 --> 01:54:32,670
long game long, long game long
game.

1936
01:54:32,700 --> 01:54:35,490
John C Dvorak: Here's a bunch of
a bunch of these phonies on

1937
01:54:35,490 --> 01:54:37,650
LinkedIn nowadays. Linda

1938
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:39,870
Adam Curry: How soon will you
pick me up that's a good one.

1939
01:54:40,650 --> 01:54:42,210
That's an interesting one.

1940
01:54:42,270 --> 01:54:44,130
John C Dvorak: Are these your
phone messages? Yeah, this

1941
01:54:44,130 --> 01:54:46,500
Adam Curry: is a text message.
Hey, what are you doing as that

1942
01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:51,030
one? Yeah. Oh, this this is
rampant in your probably comes

1943
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:58,800
from x blue. Are you there?
Question mark. Yeah, yeah,

1944
01:54:58,830 --> 01:55:00,780
John C Dvorak: it's None of
these,

1945
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,240
Adam Curry: you don't even use
your phone.

1946
01:55:03,810 --> 01:55:06,450
John C Dvorak: It's in the
drawer. Yeah, I will I have to

1947
01:55:06,450 --> 01:55:08,340
talk about this is when when
things we're going to talk

1948
01:55:08,340 --> 01:55:12,600
about, when January 1 comes
around, I will have gone one

1949
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:18,330
entire year without a cell
phone, carrying a cell phone, or

1950
01:55:18,330 --> 01:55:20,940
having a cell phone or even
having an account for a cell

1951
01:55:20,940 --> 01:55:25,260
phone one entire year. And I
bring this up to certain people

1952
01:55:25,260 --> 01:55:28,140
and like I brought it up at the
bank the other day, and

1953
01:55:28,140 --> 01:55:34,800
everybody goes nuts. How do you
do it? I wish I could do that.

1954
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:38,610
And of course, my response I
wish I could do that is just do

1955
01:55:38,610 --> 01:55:41,610
it. You go How can you do that?
How do you?

1956
01:55:45,690 --> 01:55:48,030
Adam Curry: How do you How would
you do it? How do you function?

1957
01:55:48,060 --> 01:55:51,180
How do you live? How is it
possible? I mean, do you have a

1958
01:55:51,180 --> 01:55:53,910
life? Do you have friends? Do
you know what I mean? Did you

1959
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:58,290
have a seeing eye dog? How can
you live without your phone?

1960
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:00,150
It's pretty

1961
01:56:00,150 --> 01:56:03,840
John C Dvorak: much the reaction
you get from everyone. And it's

1962
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,560
like this was only just before
2007 When people didn't carry

1963
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,740
these phones around like crazy.
It's not that long ago, it's

1964
01:56:10,740 --> 01:56:15,000
less than 20 years in the entire
population has been addicted to

1965
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,820
carry your phone around. And
like use pointed out to me,

1966
01:56:17,820 --> 01:56:20,310
which I didn't notice at the
time as a couple of years ago.

1967
01:56:20,460 --> 01:56:25,260
And I see nothing he bought guys
and gals walking around with a

1968
01:56:25,260 --> 01:56:29,490
phone in their hand, all the
time, wherever they go their

1969
01:56:29,550 --> 01:56:31,860
phone, or their hand them two

1970
01:56:31,860 --> 01:56:35,340
Adam Curry: of them. Sometimes
two women sometimes have two

1971
01:56:35,340 --> 01:56:39,750
phones. I see that a lot. One is

1972
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:43,860
John C Dvorak: like work. It
turns out that you don't need

1973
01:56:43,860 --> 01:56:46,950
that he had the phone. I mean,
once in a while you'd be at a

1974
01:56:46,950 --> 01:56:49,350
study at the store or something,
you know, wonder so and so once

1975
01:56:49,890 --> 01:56:54,030
you call us if you want to buy
one of these as on sale, you

1976
01:56:54,030 --> 01:56:57,360
don't need to do that. And then
while you're there, the response

1977
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,480
I get is hey, you bet you I get
text messages from me. I get

1978
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,290
texts, you do have a phone,
you're liar. And it's like no, I

1979
01:57:04,290 --> 01:57:09,600
use Google. Yeah, I use Google
Voice and which has text message

1980
01:57:09,630 --> 01:57:12,900
me to do it on the computer. I
come in and like when you open

1981
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it up once every week and find
some messages on there. I send

1982
01:57:16,620 --> 01:57:20,730
messages out to people who I
gotta send some information

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important. Important people
important. Important. Yeah. And

1984
01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:25,890
you use

1985
01:57:25,950 --> 01:57:28,290
Adam Curry: you use your text
message twice a week for me

1986
01:57:28,380 --> 01:57:33,780
newsletter. Newsletter,
newsletter, please review,

1987
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newsletter, newsletter.

1988
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,600
John C Dvorak: Well, you require
it. I wouldn't normally do that

1989
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,120
because I send you the
newsletter and have to look at

1990
01:57:42,150 --> 01:57:45,180
Adam Curry: it because I'm
looking at my email all day. I

1991
01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:45,480
have

1992
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,030
John C Dvorak: to because you're
stuck on a phone like everybody

1993
01:57:48,030 --> 01:57:50,700
else. I send you the dynamic
text.

1994
01:57:50,700 --> 01:57:54,150
Adam Curry: I am not stuck on a
phone. You have a phone. I'm the

1995
01:57:55,050 --> 01:57:57,570
graphene OS there's a lot of
stuff it doesn't know

1996
01:57:57,570 --> 01:57:59,910
John C Dvorak: I agree with I
mean you you've done your best.

1997
01:57:59,910 --> 01:58:03,600
Yes, I have. But you haven't
done you haven't gotten all the

1998
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:04,950
way here's, here's the

1999
01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:08,850
Adam Curry: problem. Here's the
problem with with the phone.

2000
01:58:09,330 --> 01:58:13,800
Text messaging was kind of
useful, but it's been so

2001
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:19,050
poisoned now. Because, you know,
I have Greg Abbott texting me

2002
01:58:19,050 --> 01:58:24,030
I've Kamala Harris texting me. I
got Joe Biden texting me. And

2003
01:58:24,030 --> 01:58:27,300
then they give my number out to
all these pig butchers who are

2004
01:58:27,300 --> 01:58:31,140
texting me. It's filled and you
have to be careful. It's like

2005
01:58:31,140 --> 01:58:36,150
hey, you know, this is this is
your bank, click here for for an

2006
01:58:36,150 --> 01:58:38,850
important message. And before
you know it, you know your bank

2007
01:58:38,850 --> 01:58:44,220
account is compromised. The two
factor authentication there's

2008
01:58:44,250 --> 01:58:47,700
there's nothing useful anymore
in communication. This is just

2009
01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:53,460
not a bureau I use signal. I use
telegram I use the what's the

2010
01:58:53,490 --> 01:59:00,300
what are the it's all crap. That
really is become very useless.

2011
01:59:00,390 --> 01:59:04,290
All of this, this. It used to be
that you got my phone and then a

2012
01:59:04,290 --> 01:59:06,720
couple of people have my number.
And if they if you really need

2013
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:10,170
to get a hold of me, you're
important in my life. Now you

2014
01:59:10,170 --> 01:59:14,880
can have that. Now now because
everybody's important. Everybody

2015
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:18,360
has my number that's just sold
over and over and over again.

2016
01:59:18,810 --> 01:59:21,150
John C Dvorak: Yeah, once it
gets out there. I should do

2017
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:21,780
Rogan

2018
01:59:21,780 --> 01:59:25,080
Adam Curry: Joe Rogan just buys
a new number every like six

2019
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:28,020
months. I know people that do
that. Yeah, he just gets in he

2020
01:59:28,020 --> 01:59:31,620
gets a whole new phone to just
gets a new phone. And he leaves

2021
01:59:31,830 --> 01:59:35,730
the leaves the other phone in
the you know at home. And then

2022
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:38,340
if I send him a message Oh,
dude, yeah, here's my new

2023
01:59:38,340 --> 01:59:42,240
number. Or sometimes you'll tell
me if he changes the number and

2024
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:45,630
he keeps the old one for a while
and then he gets rid of it. Yes,

2025
01:59:45,660 --> 01:59:47,100
John C Dvorak: of course a
number of people that do that.

2026
01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:50,400
So it's a it's a practice a lot
of people employ, but then

2027
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:56,490
Adam Curry: I know lots of
people who have given up their

2028
01:59:56,490 --> 02:00:00,180
number and they got a new number
and then they're getting to text

2029
02:00:00,180 --> 02:00:02,190
messages from someone's old
number and oh yeah,

2030
02:00:02,220 --> 02:00:05,070
John C Dvorak: this is a huge
problem. And then people because

2031
02:00:05,070 --> 02:00:08,850
the old the new number is really
somebody else's old number that

2032
02:00:08,850 --> 02:00:12,240
they gave up to get a new
number, because they're getting

2033
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:15,510
too many messages and now you're
stuck with that number getting

2034
02:00:15,540 --> 02:00:18,150
weird messages from people you
never knew.

2035
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:21,960
Adam Curry: The only solution
really is to go into a system

2036
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:25,230
where you pay you pay for the
resolution. Yes, I have this

2037
02:00:25,230 --> 02:00:29,880
leave it in the drawer. I have
no life. Drawer. Yeah.

2038
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,880
John C Dvorak: I don't need the
aggravation of that. Uh, that's

2039
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:36,240
why the other one I told one of
the tellers, he said, Why do you

2040
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,660
what happens? How do people get
a hold of you say, go home and

2041
02:00:39,660 --> 02:00:44,520
get a hold of me on a landline?
I'm not a doctor, I don't need

2042
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:49,290
to be gone call 24/7. If I was a
heart specialist, or somebody

2043
02:00:49,290 --> 02:00:53,370
like that, I would want to carry
a phone. Sure, but I'm not. I'm

2044
02:00:53,370 --> 02:00:56,310
a podcaster. Nobody needs to get
a hold of me.

2045
02:00:57,570 --> 02:01:01,530
Adam Curry: My friend is the ER
doctor. And he doesn't he

2046
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:04,170
literally does not have a phone
at dinner. He did save a little

2047
02:01:04,170 --> 02:01:06,330
girl's life the other night and
we're having dinner.

2048
02:01:07,500 --> 02:01:09,330
John C Dvorak: How do you find
out because

2049
02:01:09,330 --> 02:01:12,150
Adam Curry: she she walked by
him. She's like seven years old.

2050
02:01:12,270 --> 02:01:15,420
And he immediately heard
something, which was her

2051
02:01:15,420 --> 02:01:20,160
choking. And he grabbed her and
like, bam, bam, bam, they're

2052
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:23,820
back. Rip whips her head back
looks still not love. Boom,

2053
02:01:23,820 --> 02:01:29,460
boom, boom. And it popped right
out. I was witnessed it. Yes. We

2054
02:01:29,460 --> 02:01:34,080
were having dinner with them. It
was restaurant. Yes, it was. It

2055
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:39,270
was I've never seen anyone's
training and be able to spring

2056
02:01:39,270 --> 02:01:42,780
into action like that. And he
heard it. She had the little

2057
02:01:42,780 --> 02:01:45,030
girls probably gonna try to go
around the table to get to her

2058
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:48,900
mom on the other side. And she
was just choking. And he heard

2059
02:01:48,900 --> 02:01:52,170
that and he immediately knew
what to do. I was impressed does

2060
02:01:52,170 --> 02:01:54,780
not have a phone with them. Er,
Doctor.

2061
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:59,640
John C Dvorak: Er is different
than your yet you. Yeah. It's

2062
02:01:59,820 --> 02:02:01,530
the same as being an on call.
And

2063
02:02:01,530 --> 02:02:04,590
Adam Curry: the reason why the
reason why is he doesn't want

2064
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,800
the hospital to call and say we
you need to come in because it's

2065
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:13,080
busy. That's why he doesn't have
a phone. But I did find out

2066
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:16,500
something interesting of
interest. You know, we have the

2067
02:02:16,500 --> 02:02:19,710
big solar eclipse coming up.

2068
02:02:20,250 --> 02:02:22,170
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
The big one, April 8.

2069
02:02:23,340 --> 02:02:24,930
Adam Curry: These are things you
don't think about, but the

2070
02:02:24,930 --> 02:02:30,360
hospital has ordered quite a
number of body bags. They're

2071
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:34,500
expecting so many people to come
to Fredericksburg. They expect

2072
02:02:34,500 --> 02:02:36,960
there to be a number of people
more people than normal that

2073
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:39,240
will die and will need a body
Ben Oh, just

2074
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,780
John C Dvorak: statistics. Yes.
Statistics. You got to be

2075
02:02:42,780 --> 02:02:46,590
prepared. You gotta have you
have people that that logistics

2076
02:02:46,590 --> 02:02:50,520
people who work at the hospital
that know these things? Hey, we

2077
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:52,230
got to do this. We got to do
that. It

2078
02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:54,840
Adam Curry: will be it will be
great for a local news report so

2079
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:59,880
people wouldn't come to you. You
have a statistical chance of

2080
02:02:59,880 --> 02:03:05,010
leaving Fredericksburg in a body
bad. Please don't come. Don't

2081
02:03:05,010 --> 02:03:09,540
visit us at all. Yeah, good
luck. Why do people do that for

2082
02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:12,780
15 minutes? Why are people
coming from all around the

2083
02:03:12,780 --> 02:03:13,410
world?

2084
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:17,160
John C Dvorak: What is them when
they're there? Get out there

2085
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:20,130
with a microphone and ask him
what? Why are you here, dummy.

2086
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:24,450
Adam Curry: And believe me, the
phones will not work here. The

2087
02:03:24,450 --> 02:03:29,670
phones that we barely get
service. The overloaded Yeah, on

2088
02:03:29,670 --> 02:03:33,750
the weekends, it already
overloaded. All the retailers

2089
02:03:33,750 --> 02:03:37,530
they have to go to wired
terminals, because the wireless

2090
02:03:37,530 --> 02:03:40,980
terminals get overloaded on a
Saturday. Because the whole

2091
02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:46,380
because that works as a cell
network. No, no, no, it's stay

2092
02:03:46,380 --> 02:03:47,190
away the

2093
02:03:47,190 --> 02:03:48,510
John C Dvorak: end of
civilization.

2094
02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:53,880
Adam Curry: Oh, well. That's a
good point. One of the trolls

2095
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,280
says the phone companies will
bring in the event trucks. Yeah,

2096
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,170
maybe. Maybe. Yeah, they

2097
02:03:58,170 --> 02:03:59,190
John C Dvorak: can do that. To
do that.

2098
02:03:59,340 --> 02:04:02,100
Adam Curry: I'm good. I'm
bringing up my ham radio stuff.

2099
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:05,400
I'm sick of it. I need to be
prepared. And then where the end

2100
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:05,970
is near.

2101
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:07,860
John C Dvorak: I can take a
three parter here with the

2102
02:04:07,860 --> 02:04:09,300
Chinese election meddling.

2103
02:04:09,810 --> 02:04:12,930
Adam Curry: Oh, I thought it was
only Russia that does that. No.

2104
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:13,230
Turns

2105
02:04:13,230 --> 02:04:15,870
John C Dvorak: out China does it
more than Russia. Okay,

2106
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:18,000
Adam Curry: part one. Yeah.

2107
02:04:18,090 --> 02:04:21,330
Unknown: A recent report by the
the intelligence community finds

2108
02:04:21,330 --> 02:04:25,080
that the Chinese regime tried to
meddle in the 2022 midterm

2109
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:29,160
elections. Does it work and what
will happen in the 2024

2110
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:33,750
election? Joining us now is Dean
Baxendale CEO of China democracy

2111
02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:38,040
fund and optimum publishing
International. Baxendale just

2112
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:41,370
published a new book, The Mosaic
effect, how the Chinese

2113
02:04:41,370 --> 02:04:45,750
Communist Party started a hybrid
war in America's backyard. Now

2114
02:04:45,750 --> 02:04:49,320
there's a declassified US
intelligence report that says

2115
02:04:49,350 --> 02:04:52,950
China tried to meddle in the
2022 midterm elections in the

2116
02:04:52,950 --> 02:04:56,220
US. how seriously should we be
taking this?

2117
02:04:56,490 --> 02:04:59,940
I think we should be taking this
extremely seriously this year.

2118
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,030
and the intelligence community
are doing a great service for

2119
02:05:03,030 --> 02:05:07,650
America, and quite frankly for
the free world by declassifying

2120
02:05:07,650 --> 02:05:10,710
and making some of these reports
available to the public to

2121
02:05:10,710 --> 02:05:14,010
understand that malign state
governments like Chinese

2122
02:05:14,010 --> 02:05:19,140
Communist Party, Russia, Iran,
all interfering in elections

2123
02:05:19,140 --> 02:05:22,710
around the world. So I would say
yes, it's extremely important to

2124
02:05:22,710 --> 02:05:26,670
this report, this information is
coming out. On that note, the

2125
02:05:26,670 --> 02:05:30,510
report notes that China quote
tacitly approved efforts to try

2126
02:05:30,510 --> 02:05:33,690
to influence a handful of
midterm racism voting members of

2127
02:05:33,690 --> 02:05:37,140
both US political parties, those
are candidates seen as anti

2128
02:05:37,140 --> 02:05:41,670
China now, how is China able to
influence elections outside of

2129
02:05:41,670 --> 02:05:43,500
their own borders? So

2130
02:05:43,500 --> 02:05:46,920
as you know, the Chinese
Communist Party uses the United

2131
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:49,260
Front work department, globally?

2132
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:52,590
Adam Curry: This is she brings
up it kind of an interesting

2133
02:05:52,590 --> 02:05:56,730
point without even thinking
about it. Both candidates, both

2134
02:05:56,730 --> 02:06:00,720
sides hate China, who are they
trying to tip the scales for?

2135
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:04,080
John C Dvorak: The people who do
our candidates who don't have a

2136
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:07,230
hatred of China and they don't
express it deal with threatened

2137
02:06:07,230 --> 02:06:12,060
China? You know, the Stooges?
Eric Swalwell types of Fangfang

2138
02:06:13,980 --> 02:06:15,960
Adam Curry: don't need to go
hack him. I just put Fangfang

2139
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:17,250
next to him in bed, or

2140
02:06:17,250 --> 02:06:22,020
John C Dvorak: any any woman I
think. Yeah, this thing called

2141
02:06:22,020 --> 02:06:26,220
the united front. Sounds
sketchy. Yeah, you can look it

2142
02:06:26,220 --> 02:06:29,250
up. It's in Wikipedia, it's got
a story about it here go to part

2143
02:06:29,250 --> 02:06:29,490
two,

2144
02:06:29,850 --> 02:06:32,970
Unknown: they're running
operations. In Canada, the

2145
02:06:32,970 --> 02:06:38,370
United States, Mexico, the UK,
they have united front people

2146
02:06:38,370 --> 02:06:41,940
who will ultimately control
various media outlets,

2147
02:06:42,570 --> 02:06:45,120
throughout and proxy
corporations, especially in

2148
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:47,820
Canada, where we have 56 media
outlets that are either

2149
02:06:47,820 --> 02:06:50,370
controlled directly or
indirectly by the Chinese

2150
02:06:50,370 --> 02:06:53,880
Communist Party or proxies,
they're attached to the united

2151
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:57,840
front. So they're using their
own information within the

2152
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:02,250
Chinese community to change
votes or persuade Chinese guys

2153
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:06,150
or community members to vote in
a certain way or to view a

2154
02:07:06,150 --> 02:07:11,730
politician in a certain way that
might be negative towards China,

2155
02:07:11,730 --> 02:07:14,700
and therefore, that is one way
they would with the influence in

2156
02:07:14,700 --> 02:07:17,640
terms directly in the media. The
next of course, is social media,

2157
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:22,680
and their use of trolls and
bots, Will that continue to put

2158
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:25,830
out disinformation or
misinformation? Or do you want

2159
02:07:25,830 --> 02:07:30,000
one look at it, and actually
exacerbate points of division,

2160
02:07:30,150 --> 02:07:34,620
both on the left and the right,
that alienate voters and

2161
02:07:34,620 --> 02:07:37,890
actually influenced them in
voting in particular? Wait

2162
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:41,490
Adam Curry: a minute. The
Chinese are using Putin's

2163
02:07:41,490 --> 02:07:42,270
playbook?

2164
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:45,450
John C Dvorak: Yes, Chinese
playbook. No, it's

2165
02:07:45,450 --> 02:07:48,570
Adam Curry: Putin his playbook.
I'm not buying any of this. This

2166
02:07:48,570 --> 02:07:53,460
is all bull crap. The i Okay. I
think we don't need Chinese

2167
02:07:53,460 --> 02:07:57,540
helping us argue on social
media. Seriously?

2168
02:07:59,130 --> 02:08:00,480
John C Dvorak: Well, it might be
one of those things where

2169
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:04,980
they're doing stuff because they
think it's effective. Well, duh,

2170
02:08:04,980 --> 02:08:06,810
is really just a joke. They're
just fooling

2171
02:08:06,810 --> 02:08:09,600
Adam Curry: themselves that that
that cyber front, whatever it's

2172
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:12,120
called, they're, they're united
front, united front, they're

2173
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:15,030
stealing money from the Chinese
government. They don't need any

2174
02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:19,620
of that. Just just post one word
Trump and then back away and

2175
02:08:19,620 --> 02:08:21,210
Unknown: see what happens to
Trump.

2176
02:08:21,390 --> 02:08:22,230
Adam Curry: That's all you need.

2177
02:08:22,260 --> 02:08:24,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
actually that would work that

2178
02:08:24,420 --> 02:08:25,260
does work. Yeah,

2179
02:08:25,260 --> 02:08:26,430
Adam Curry: I can get paid for
that.

2180
02:08:28,470 --> 02:08:30,180
John C Dvorak: Right. You don't
need to listen to the last of

2181
02:08:30,180 --> 02:08:30,420
this.

2182
02:08:30,450 --> 02:08:32,130
Adam Curry: Are you sure I'm
enjoying?

2183
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:34,530
John C Dvorak: Okay, go play.

2184
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:36,780
Unknown: And in terms of the
United Front Work Department

2185
02:08:36,780 --> 02:08:39,630
give us a sense of how does this
relate to the Chinese Communist

2186
02:08:39,630 --> 02:08:43,200
Party? Is this its own little
category? Or is it backed by the

2187
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:44,160
government? So

2188
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:46,800
as you know, the United Front
actually is the Department of

2189
02:08:47,250 --> 02:08:50,250
the Chinese Communist Party
there was over I believe now

2190
02:08:50,250 --> 02:08:56,850
there's over the close to 40,000
employees around the world,

2191
02:08:56,850 --> 02:09:00,810
their influence operations, both
soft power and sharp power

2192
02:09:00,930 --> 02:09:05,130
operations inside countries
around the globe power to ensure

2193
02:09:05,130 --> 02:09:09,510
that China is viewed as a
positive and a great nation to

2194
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:13,980
do business with and to
ultimately partner with their

2195
02:09:13,980 --> 02:09:16,950
propaganda operations.
misinformation, disinformation.

2196
02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:20,070
Propaganda is just one of the
many tools used by the United

2197
02:09:20,070 --> 02:09:23,580
Front, you know, throughout the
world, you can look at other

2198
02:09:23,580 --> 02:09:27,450
elements of the United Front
including, you know, direct

2199
02:09:27,450 --> 02:09:32,760
political influence operations
in terms of bribes or and or

2200
02:09:32,850 --> 02:09:35,100
money that's being donated
directly into

2201
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:36,540
donated for instance,

2202
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:42,120
or directly into constituencies
that may influence a politician

2203
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:46,140
and how he views in particular
issue that may be pro or against

2204
02:09:46,140 --> 02:09:48,300
the Chinese Communist Party's
ambitions.

2205
02:09:48,750 --> 02:09:51,660
John C Dvorak: Donate to no
agenda. Yeah,

2206
02:09:51,690 --> 02:09:57,150
Adam Curry: this is yeah, you
know, okay, fine. Fine, aye.

2207
02:09:57,180 --> 02:10:02,160
Aye. All of this influence on
the The Internet No, none of it.

2208
02:10:02,220 --> 02:10:06,330
None of social media is is just
the place where you going yell?

2209
02:10:06,810 --> 02:10:09,240
Because you're hooked on it
because yeah, people are hooked

2210
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:12,210
on it. And it's it's unhealthy.

2211
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:14,610
John C Dvorak: They're hooked to
their phone, the phone, same

2212
02:10:14,610 --> 02:10:14,880
thing.

2213
02:10:14,910 --> 02:10:18,120
Adam Curry: You know, you you
brought something up on the last

2214
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:21,540
show the show before that about
me stopping smoking weed and how

2215
02:10:21,540 --> 02:10:23,190
Mimi thought that was great.

2216
02:10:23,820 --> 02:10:25,830
John C Dvorak: And a lot of
other people chimed in saying

2217
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:27,330
yes. And

2218
02:10:27,330 --> 02:10:30,930
Adam Curry: what's interesting
is I have received at least 10

2219
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:39,000
emails 10 that say, Oh, wow, I
would like to quit smoking weed

2220
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:42,960
too. How did you do it? This is
this is an unexpected response

2221
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:46,140
from our audience that dead.
Yeah. So I would like to give a

2222
02:10:46,140 --> 02:10:48,480
brief overview of how I did it.
I want to

2223
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:51,150
John C Dvorak: be interested in
myself even though I don't know

2224
02:10:51,150 --> 02:10:52,950
why care. Well,

2225
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:56,220
Adam Curry: one, I had a small
incentive, because my

2226
02:10:56,220 --> 02:10:58,890
periodontist called and said,
Adam, I'm going to operate on

2227
02:10:58,890 --> 02:11:02,490
you stop putting fire in your
mouth. It makes it harder for me

2228
02:11:02,490 --> 02:11:05,370
to operate and harder for you to
recover. So I had an incentive.

2229
02:11:05,490 --> 02:11:09,090
I've had lots of incentives in
the past. But I quit cold

2230
02:11:09,090 --> 02:11:13,620
turkey. This is the number one
quit cold turkey. Number two, I

2231
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:19,320
vaped. Not in fact, it wasn't it
not even nicotine just a vape

2232
02:11:19,770 --> 02:11:24,180
mainly for the oral fixation.
The process of having something

2233
02:11:24,180 --> 02:11:27,210
in my hands. This is this is I
found that to be the hardest. I

2234
02:11:27,210 --> 02:11:31,020
do want more I'm going to do I'm
missing that motion. I also got

2235
02:11:31,020 --> 02:11:36,300
a geek vape that's a brand which
gives you more to do because you

2236
02:11:36,300 --> 02:11:39,030
have to build the coil yourself
and put the

2237
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:41,790
John C Dvorak: cotton like, like
pipe smokers. Yes,

2238
02:11:41,790 --> 02:11:45,870
Adam Curry: yes, very precisely.
So part of it for me weed was

2239
02:11:45,870 --> 02:11:49,470
the process of roll, I could
roll a joint with one hand

2240
02:11:49,470 --> 02:11:53,250
behind my back. I mean, while
driving no problem. So that

2241
02:11:53,250 --> 02:11:57,570
having the process of doing
something, I also had a project

2242
02:11:57,570 --> 02:12:01,260
to work on because you become
very productive very quickly

2243
02:12:01,290 --> 02:12:07,380
within a day. And so I set up a
Trillium database just have

2244
02:12:07,380 --> 02:12:12,510
something to do. I set up a
Trillium so I have something I

2245
02:12:12,510 --> 02:12:15,960
have a project and final advice

2246
02:12:16,050 --> 02:12:18,600
John C Dvorak: has been a bottle
might be more appropriate for

2247
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,160
most of the puzzle ship

2248
02:12:20,160 --> 02:12:25,290
Adam Curry: in a bottle. Have a
project like like Lego?

2249
02:12:26,460 --> 02:12:27,900
John C Dvorak: Lego? Yeah, Lego.

2250
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:31,140
Adam Curry: Have a partner to
keep you in check. Because if

2251
02:12:31,140 --> 02:12:36,360
you're alone, that's the worst
if you're alone, then the devil

2252
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:38,670
will come and get you and be
like well no one's gonna see I'm

2253
02:12:38,670 --> 02:12:42,360
just have one toke and and take
it one day at a time then one

2254
02:12:42,360 --> 02:12:45,090
week and one month and now it's
been 14 months.

2255
02:12:45,900 --> 02:12:47,910
John C Dvorak: And I worked 18
months I didn't realize it was

2256
02:12:47,910 --> 02:12:49,350
that long already. Oh, yeah.

2257
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:53,010
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was it was
it was Thanksgiving last year.

2258
02:12:53,940 --> 02:12:56,070
So yeah, Dominus

2259
02:12:56,490 --> 02:12:58,290
John C Dvorak: longer than I've
been off the phone.

2260
02:12:59,940 --> 02:13:04,140
Adam Curry: Together we're a
catch. We're great guys

2261
02:13:04,140 --> 02:13:08,940
together. Alright, sticking with
a quitting before we take our

2262
02:13:08,940 --> 02:13:12,120
break here. Something very
interesting happening for the

2263
02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:17,700
holiday season. Via is you
thought ozempic was good. It's

2264
02:13:17,700 --> 02:13:18,930
holiday season with

2265
02:13:18,930 --> 02:13:21,690
Unknown: the holiday season in
full swing. Some people who take

2266
02:13:21,690 --> 02:13:26,100
drugs use for weight loss such
as ozempic are planning a pause

2267
02:13:26,130 --> 02:13:29,250
on their prescriptions ahead of
celebrations arrow Russia was

2268
02:13:29,250 --> 02:13:33,000
back with the details and what
to know good morning Ariel Good

2269
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:33,240
morning

2270
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:36,060
again, Robin. As we know many
have seen dramatic results

2271
02:13:36,060 --> 02:13:39,030
taking this class of medications
for weight loss but some say

2272
02:13:39,180 --> 02:13:41,550
they need a break for the
holidays. Whether it's for a

2273
02:13:41,550 --> 02:13:45,060
little indulgence or cost
savings. Doctors caution it's a

2274
02:13:45,060 --> 02:13:45,660
trade off.

2275
02:13:46,140 --> 02:13:49,710
Adam Curry: This is I found this
to be interesting. Well

2276
02:13:49,710 --> 02:13:51,960
John C Dvorak: I find it to be
ridiculous. I thought the whole

2277
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:55,770
idea was your take there was me
so you can you can chow down.

2278
02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:56,610
No,

2279
02:13:56,640 --> 02:13:59,370
Adam Curry: no, I think the
reason why people are stopping

2280
02:13:59,370 --> 02:14:01,800
is because otherwise you're
throwing up all day. You know

2281
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:04,500
it's like you go to have
Christmas dinner and I gotta go

2282
02:14:04,500 --> 02:14:07,170
take a dump I gotta go puke. I
don't feel good.

2283
02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:10,740
Unknown: This season for holiday
feasting and now some using

2284
02:14:10,740 --> 02:14:14,700
medications like ozempic Manjaro
and we go V for weight loss say

2285
02:14:14,760 --> 02:14:17,400
they're taking a vacation from
the drugs

2286
02:14:17,580 --> 02:14:21,210
and popular opinion in the
semaglutide world. Julie still

2287
02:14:21,210 --> 02:14:22,170
Kelly who lost

2288
02:14:22,170 --> 02:14:25,470
38 pounds says she's foregoing
the appetite suppressing

2289
02:14:25,470 --> 02:14:29,490
semaglutide in favor of feeling
less uncomfortably full and

2290
02:14:29,490 --> 02:14:33,000
fielding fewer questions during
festive meals. She skipped her

2291
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:34,620
dose during Thanksgiving. What I

2292
02:14:34,620 --> 02:14:38,220
noticed was I was still able to
eat the things that I really

2293
02:14:38,220 --> 02:14:41,850
wanted to indulge a little bit I
just had to be really conscious

2294
02:14:41,850 --> 02:14:46,890
about how I was feeling what I
was eating how fast I was eating

2295
02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:47,190
it

2296
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:51,450
for Kaylee Svenson, who lost 90
pounds on Manjaro. Cutting back

2297
02:14:51,450 --> 02:14:54,990
this time of year is a financial
decision. A trade off to put

2298
02:14:54,990 --> 02:14:56,490
presents under the tree.

2299
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,160
It's something that is
financially extraordinarily

2300
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:01,770
expensive for our fans. way to
afford because our insurance

2301
02:15:01,770 --> 02:15:05,460
isn't covering it. I can make a
box last six weeks instead of

2302
02:15:05,460 --> 02:15:07,140
four that will save me a couple
100 Extra.

2303
02:15:07,170 --> 02:15:09,330
Adam Curry: I think this
contained a minute. I think this

2304
02:15:09,330 --> 02:15:13,080
may be part of the ploy to get
this thing on Medicare. Look at

2305
02:15:13,080 --> 02:15:21,870
these poor people they put
presents under the tree to sack

2306
02:15:22,410 --> 02:15:23,550
sacrifice family

2307
02:15:23,550 --> 02:15:26,370
Unknown: to afford because our
insurance isn't covering it. If

2308
02:15:26,370 --> 02:15:29,610
I can make a box last six weeks
instead of four that will save

2309
02:15:29,610 --> 02:15:31,260
me a couple 100 extra dollars.
Kaylee

2310
02:15:31,260 --> 02:15:35,400
says her prescription cost her
more than $1,000 for for single

2311
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:36,630
use doses. If I

2312
02:15:36,630 --> 02:15:39,990
can stretch it for 10 days
instead of every week that helps

2313
02:15:39,990 --> 02:15:44,580
me push off you know the expense
a little bit. Doctors

2314
02:15:44,580 --> 02:15:47,610
caution pausing the treatments
can come with some side effects

2315
02:15:47,700 --> 02:15:50,610
like nausea, increased appetite
and weight gain.

2316
02:15:50,670 --> 02:15:54,000
If a patient skips their
medication for one to two weeks,

2317
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:57,090
there is a potential for them to
have some increased side

2318
02:15:57,090 --> 02:15:59,850
effects, they might not see
those improvements in their

2319
02:15:59,850 --> 02:16:02,310
hunger and appetite. Ah,

2320
02:16:02,340 --> 02:16:05,490
Adam Curry: here's another part,
don't stop taking it.

2321
02:16:05,550 --> 02:16:07,920
Unknown: And so they'll
inevitably eat more and that may

2322
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:09,900
contribute to some weight gain.
And

2323
02:16:09,900 --> 02:16:12,480
with all of the temptations this
time of year doctors say this

2324
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,330
may not be the ideal time to
pause treatment if you're hoping

2325
02:16:15,330 --> 02:16:18,750
to maintain your progress but a
week or so shouldn't set you too

2326
02:16:18,750 --> 02:16:21,450
far back guys and there are
temptations this time of year.

2327
02:16:22,050 --> 02:16:28,080
Adam Curry: God how many people
are on this stuff. So I do have

2328
02:16:28,260 --> 02:16:31,830
a you have quick two quick boots
on the ground notices important

2329
02:16:31,830 --> 02:16:41,910
for us to know. I incorrectly
stated that semaglutide is out

2330
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:49,200
of patent wrongs as James. He
says semaglutide and all other

2331
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:54,540
GLP one agonists are not generic
the patent does not expire until

2332
02:16:54,540 --> 02:17:01,200
July 17 2026. The compound a GLP
one agonists you spoke of our

2333
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:06,540
reverse engineered formulas.
There are no generics of ozempic

2334
02:17:06,690 --> 02:17:09,900
trulicity or any other GLP one
agonist because they are still

2335
02:17:09,900 --> 02:17:14,940
patented. The different names of
Novo Nordisk products are just

2336
02:17:14,940 --> 02:17:17,520
branding for the same drug
different doses. Yes, we got

2337
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:21,630
that. And then a second boots on
the ground note. And this is

2338
02:17:21,630 --> 02:17:26,370
about the cost. I have a client
who has just started taking the

2339
02:17:26,370 --> 02:17:29,310
compounded versions of
semaglutide. We have pharmacy

2340
02:17:29,580 --> 02:17:33,750
pharmacists, in our vast boots
on the ground army, they add

2341
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:38,130
vitamin B 12 to it, which
qualifies it as a new drug. My

2342
02:17:38,130 --> 02:17:40,680
client is getting it from a
compounding pharmacy in

2343
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:44,700
Pennsylvania. So that's the
workaround is yeah, you just get

2344
02:17:44,700 --> 02:17:47,820
the you get the semaglutide You
throw some beat 12 in new drug,

2345
02:17:47,820 --> 02:17:50,940
it's okay. The compounded
version comes in a vial and the

2346
02:17:50,940 --> 02:17:53,790
patient must use a standard
syringe to draw it. That's why

2347
02:17:53,790 --> 02:17:57,180
people are overdosing short. The
compound version was prescribed

2348
02:17:57,180 --> 02:18:01,560
by her PCP primary care
physician, I guess. And it's

2349
02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:05,670
only $250 A month instead of the
typical 1000. The drug sells in

2350
02:18:05,670 --> 02:18:10,590
every other country in the world
for $30. Yeah, the main reason

2351
02:18:10,620 --> 02:18:15,090
for the increased increased
price is the PBMs. pharmacy

2352
02:18:15,090 --> 02:18:18,810
benefit managers you remember
this term? Yep. This is what

2353
02:18:18,810 --> 02:18:19,260
Trump went

2354
02:18:19,260 --> 02:18:21,480
John C Dvorak: after. Yeah,
Trump went after him. And

2355
02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:24,060
supposedly Biden did something
about it. But there's no

2356
02:18:24,060 --> 02:18:26,730
evidence of it. Biden talks a
big game, but none of this ever

2357
02:18:26,730 --> 02:18:30,600
happens. This is like Biden
talking a big game about the

2358
02:18:30,660 --> 02:18:33,960
climate change and the rest of
them we have more oil production

2359
02:18:33,960 --> 02:18:38,190
than ever. Yeah, he's just full
of crap. This guy all knows the

2360
02:18:38,190 --> 02:18:38,670
theme.

2361
02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:41,700
Adam Curry: All of the pharmacy
benefit managers are owned by

2362
02:18:41,700 --> 02:18:46,290
pharmacies like CVS owns optim
RX, they approve or disapprove

2363
02:18:46,290 --> 02:18:49,470
the prescribed drug for
coverage. Then the PBM jacks up

2364
02:18:49,470 --> 02:18:51,780
the price to the patient while
sharing the profits with the

2365
02:18:51,780 --> 02:18:57,060
parent company. Ultimately, what
a deal ultimately,

2366
02:18:57,749 --> 02:18:59,069
John C Dvorak: I'm all in
ultimately

2367
02:18:59,070 --> 02:19:01,290
Adam Curry: it's congress that's
to blame. And that's not going

2368
02:19:01,290 --> 02:19:03,870
to change because of all the
lobbying I mean bribes. Oh damn

2369
02:19:03,870 --> 02:19:06,300
greedy bastards. Okay, very
good. That's your boots on the

2370
02:19:06,300 --> 02:19:07,170
ground. You're screwed.

2371
02:19:08,190 --> 02:19:11,640
John C Dvorak: You're screwed.
And you will be forever forever.

2372
02:19:11,819 --> 02:19:13,139
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

2373
02:19:13,139 --> 02:19:15,389
courage saying good morning to
you the man who put the seat in

2374
02:19:15,389 --> 02:19:18,509
the cheating machine say hello
to my friend on the other end

2375
02:19:18,509 --> 02:19:20,129
the One Only Mr. Johnson

2376
02:19:25,230 --> 02:19:27,570
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
hello chips. Feet near subs in

2377
02:19:27,570 --> 02:19:29,280
the water under names and nights
out there we

2378
02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:32,880
Adam Curry: are well into the
Christmas holiday here Christmas

2379
02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:36,720
week which means the trolls will
be off and galavanting about

2380
02:19:36,720 --> 02:19:47,340
let's have a check. Oh no. 1741
This is not good. This is a very

2381
02:19:47,340 --> 02:19:49,230
low troll calm. We have low tea.

2382
02:19:49,620 --> 02:19:52,530
John C Dvorak: That's actually
not bad. We have I just want to

2383
02:19:52,530 --> 02:19:54,510
say we have been hundreds the
number we're shoot for on

2384
02:19:54,510 --> 02:19:56,310
Thursday. We have low Tuesday.

2385
02:19:56,310 --> 02:19:58,380
Adam Curry: We have low tea
though. We do have low today.

2386
02:19:58,860 --> 02:20:04,020
Today. Today's So, today's
Thursday, I think, today's

2387
02:20:04,020 --> 02:20:04,380
Thursday,

2388
02:20:04,380 --> 02:20:07,110
John C Dvorak: so 1750 is fine.
Okay.

2389
02:20:08,429 --> 02:20:11,519
Adam Curry: Thank goodness.
Thank goodness. Well, you can

2390
02:20:11,519 --> 02:20:15,509
join the trolls in the troll
room troll room.io also known as

2391
02:20:15,509 --> 02:20:20,609
no agenda stream.com It's a live
stream 24/7 It's pretty cool. We

2392
02:20:20,609 --> 02:20:23,039
got a lot of podcasts there a
lot of people doing live

2393
02:20:23,039 --> 02:20:27,149
podcasts, which you can enjoy
there with the streaming the

2394
02:20:27,149 --> 02:20:28,049
streaming audio. We

2395
02:20:28,050 --> 02:20:30,150
John C Dvorak: do that on the
Devorah core with some plugged.

2396
02:20:30,330 --> 02:20:33,540
Adam Curry: Yes. May I give you
props, by the way, for the

2397
02:20:33,540 --> 02:20:38,040
DeVore Ichor if you predicted
some kind of weird buy out with

2398
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:43,080
with was a Disney no never is
covering. Yeah. And the next day

2399
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:46,200
they announced that there's some
merger or something. Yeah,

2400
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:48,510
John C Dvorak: well, no, they're
in talks with Paramount. Yeah,

2401
02:20:48,540 --> 02:20:50,220
Adam Curry: but you you called
it

2402
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:52,260
John C Dvorak: astonishing.

2403
02:20:53,430 --> 02:20:56,310
Adam Curry: You got some weird
insider transaction that was

2404
02:20:56,310 --> 02:20:58,050
like, No, it's like it was a
screwball

2405
02:20:58,050 --> 02:21:00,210
John C Dvorak: one too. It was
weird. It was very strange.

2406
02:21:00,210 --> 02:21:02,160
Yeah, he had to go back listen
to the show you go.

2407
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:05,940
Adam Curry: So yeah, so you can
hear DH unplugged on Tuesdays.

2408
02:21:06,210 --> 02:21:09,630
You guys go live what eight
o'clock? Eight o'clock Eastern

2409
02:21:09,630 --> 02:21:12,030
nine o'clock Eastern. I can't
remember what time What time is

2410
02:21:12,030 --> 02:21:15,540
it for you when you start? Seven
is 10 o'clock Eastern know that?

2411
02:21:15,690 --> 02:21:18,810
Oh, yeah. 1010 Eastern There you
go. Yeah, when seven o'clock?

2412
02:21:18,840 --> 02:21:23,280
Yeah, this is fun. I always love
listening to you guys. You know

2413
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:25,830
nothing about Bitcoin, by the
way should stay away from that.

2414
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:29,940
John C Dvorak: We know nothing
about Bitcoin we just don't like

2415
02:21:29,970 --> 02:21:32,340
Adam Curry: you don't like what
I know. I know. That's that's

2416
02:21:32,340 --> 02:21:39,330
very clear. So you can also and
this is what we recommend is get

2417
02:21:39,330 --> 02:21:43,110
a modern podcast app, you can
find that at podcast apps.com.

2418
02:21:44,310 --> 02:21:49,170
Because not just for our show.
But there are many podcasts that

2419
02:21:49,170 --> 02:21:52,500
you may like that will suddenly
just disappear if you're using

2420
02:21:52,530 --> 02:21:56,400
Apple or Spotify. Spotify is
taking away podcasts on a daily

2421
02:21:56,400 --> 02:22:00,150
basis. They just cancel people
and I haven't tracked apple but

2422
02:22:00,150 --> 02:22:03,390
they do the same thing. They get
a call something's not right,

2423
02:22:03,420 --> 02:22:07,710
whatever the any of this is
gone. And that will not happen

2424
02:22:07,710 --> 02:22:10,890
with a modern podcast app. In
addition to that, you will get a

2425
02:22:10,890 --> 02:22:14,400
notification within 90 seconds
of us publishing the show that

2426
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:17,010
has been updated. We have
chapter images, we have

2427
02:22:17,010 --> 02:22:21,450
transcripts which you can search
in which is very handy. Like oh,

2428
02:22:21,450 --> 02:22:23,940
there's something that show what
to find. There's all these

2429
02:22:23,940 --> 02:22:27,150
benefits that you get and is
completely open source and a

2430
02:22:27,150 --> 02:22:28,350
bunch of cool people make it

2431
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:32,040
John C Dvorak: so now I want to
give a benefit out to one of our

2432
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:37,590
longtime producers. And I don't
want to give his his email out

2433
02:22:37,590 --> 02:22:44,580
but I'm going to do it. Patrick
may calm Sir Patrick may 15 $50

2434
02:22:44,580 --> 02:22:47,760
Every show forever. And he's in
New York. I think Sir Patrick

2435
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:51,870
makeup? Yes. No, I got laid off
after 10 years for my tech job

2436
02:22:51,900 --> 02:22:55,470
because he quit he quit. He quit
his donation and I sent him a

2437
02:22:55,470 --> 02:22:58,830
note I said what happened? I got
laid off. 10 years from my tech

2438
02:22:58,830 --> 02:23:03,240
job I resumed donating in want
to get a new gig right before

2439
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:07,740
Christmas. He was he was there
forever. Last day is early

2440
02:23:07,740 --> 02:23:10,800
January, we'll spend the holiday
working on my resume. Let me

2441
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:13,890
know if anyone needs someone
with 10 plus years of code

2442
02:23:13,890 --> 02:23:18,150
experience 20 plus years of
front end plus eight years of

2443
02:23:18,150 --> 02:23:22,890
back end development plus five
years of blockchain three plus

2444
02:23:22,890 --> 02:23:26,130
three that have something else I
can't figure out what he's

2445
02:23:26,130 --> 02:23:30,660
somebody yatta yatta yatta Keep
up the great work. Email Patrick

2446
02:23:30,690 --> 02:23:38,430
may calm pa t ric
kmacom@gmail.com I have

2447
02:23:38,910 --> 02:23:41,730
Adam Curry: two pieces of advice
for Ben I think he's a service

2448
02:23:41,730 --> 02:23:44,880
you know thank you sir patch Oh
yeah, he said probably a barren

2449
02:23:45,150 --> 02:23:49,620
two piece of advice a put in
three years of AI experience

2450
02:23:49,650 --> 02:23:53,940
please just do it and just do it
just throw it in to consider

2451
02:23:53,940 --> 02:23:58,260
image makers inc.com That's
image makers Inc with a k.com.

2452
02:24:00,510 --> 02:24:08,790
My job this is a value for value
podcast. Speaking of value for

2453
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:12,240
value, the I heard something
that you have not promoted yet

2454
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:17,940
on this show, which I maybe you
felt that was out of place. But

2455
02:24:18,510 --> 02:24:24,810
it seems the success of too many
eggs.com there is now a new book

2456
02:24:24,810 --> 02:24:29,850
from gate view publishing, which
I believe is titled The ABCs of

2457
02:24:29,850 --> 02:24:30,840
stock investing.

2458
02:24:31,350 --> 02:24:34,170
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there you
get the PDF there at gate view

2459
02:24:34,170 --> 02:24:35,760
publishing.com.

2460
02:24:38,820 --> 02:24:40,800
Adam Curry: Explain what it is
because I liked I like your

2461
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:45,510
John C Dvorak: kids book. It's a
kids book with ABCs and each one

2462
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:52,230
of the ABCs has some sort of
some some investment term for

2463
02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:56,610
kids. With illustrations with
illustration with a yeah

2464
02:24:56,610 --> 02:24:57,570
illustrations.

2465
02:24:57,690 --> 02:25:02,160
Adam Curry: Nice cute Um, I like
your little publishing Empire

2466
02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:03,210
you guys are putting together

2467
02:25:03,210 --> 02:25:06,600
John C Dvorak: yeah, there.
Yeah. And I would recommend, by

2468
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:09,060
the way, since we're actually in
negotiations with another

2469
02:25:09,060 --> 02:25:12,900
publisher to do for the AIG book
for them to take over the

2470
02:25:12,900 --> 02:25:17,760
distribution rights, if that
happens, the I'm pretty sure on

2471
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:21,450
this, I could talk him out of
it, the PDF will end up going

2472
02:25:21,450 --> 02:25:26,040
away. So I recommend, which I
think is I have my arguments for

2473
02:25:26,070 --> 02:25:28,080
why you should PDF all these
products. But

2474
02:25:28,110 --> 02:25:30,690
Adam Curry: you know, this
sounds suspiciously like an exit

2475
02:25:30,690 --> 02:25:32,670
strategy. Jhansi Dvorak?

2476
02:25:33,360 --> 02:25:36,900
John C Dvorak: No, no. And so
it's it's a, it's a tax

2477
02:25:36,900 --> 02:25:42,300
strategy. Oh, and so, anyway,
too many eggs.com that PDF file,

2478
02:25:42,420 --> 02:25:45,630
grab a copy just for your own
good, that's

2479
02:25:45,630 --> 02:25:48,240
Adam Curry: too bad. Because I
was thinking, Can we not do our

2480
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:50,160
value for value book and have
that we're

2481
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:52,350
John C Dvorak: gonna do it. It's
on the list. We got to do three

2482
02:25:52,350 --> 02:25:53,640
books next year. But

2483
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:56,040
Adam Curry: can we export and we
don't have an exit strategy? Can

2484
02:25:56,040 --> 02:25:59,640
I can I do this? Wait a minute,
wait a minute. Can I do my own

2485
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:04,410
old can I do my I was an MTV
guidebook. Can we absolutely

2486
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:08,040
held hostage by my hair? You
know, stuff like that? Oh,

2487
02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:08,970
John C Dvorak: great title.

2488
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:12,360
Adam Curry: Thank you. I want to
exit John, I've done we need to

2489
02:26:12,360 --> 02:26:13,650
be planning for the future.

2490
02:26:15,150 --> 02:26:17,220
John C Dvorak: Just the thought
well, with these kinds of

2491
02:26:17,220 --> 02:26:22,350
donations, which, for example,
we had this promotion I pitched

2492
02:26:22,350 --> 02:26:28,800
about earlier, the shelf.
Promotion was great. 1618. What

2493
02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:33,630
is it called? The Golden Golden
Ratio, Golden Ratio, he got a

2494
02:26:33,630 --> 02:26:40,200
total of three donations for
$16.18. A little less than, you

2495
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:43,320
know, a typical promotion.
Definitely doesn't keep up with

2496
02:26:43,320 --> 02:26:44,820
the Ph. D. program.

2497
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:48,870
Adam Curry: There was no But uh,
yeah, yeah, up me. I want this

2498
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:54,240
face it. People don't like math.
They don't like the golden

2499
02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:57,480
ratio, like the golden ratio.
And that's okay. We've had other

2500
02:26:57,480 --> 02:27:02,550
flops, the golden ratio gets no
respect. So we have this whole

2501
02:27:02,550 --> 02:27:06,270
concept. I actually went on a
Twitter spaces the other day.

2502
02:27:06,300 --> 02:27:09,420
Oh, god, that was rough. You
know what I did at Twitter

2503
02:27:09,420 --> 02:27:12,330
spaces, spaces, spaces,

2504
02:27:12,990 --> 02:27:13,710
John C Dvorak: spaces.

2505
02:27:13,710 --> 02:27:16,230
Adam Curry: It's like a chat
room with on voice with a whole

2506
02:27:16,230 --> 02:27:20,940
bunch of people on Twitter. And
but I had to install the app.

2507
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:22,200
John C Dvorak: It'd be dreadful.

2508
02:27:22,350 --> 02:27:27,360
Adam Curry: Well, you. Yeah, it
is. You have to install the app.

2509
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:30,180
And then you get called up on
stage.

2510
02:27:30,780 --> 02:27:31,770
Unknown: Oh, God.

2511
02:27:35,310 --> 02:27:38,520
Adam Curry: I was explaining
value for value, which is always

2512
02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:41,370
fun. You said we've been doing
this for 16 years. So it works.

2513
02:27:41,370 --> 02:27:44,280
People get with the program.
Listen to our donation segment.

2514
02:27:44,280 --> 02:27:47,910
People love us. Then it's about
the feedback loop. You got to

2515
02:27:47,910 --> 02:27:50,370
get to read the notes. You got
to tell people you got to get to

2516
02:27:50,370 --> 02:27:54,060
thank people. It's very smart,
then it's not just money. It's

2517
02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:58,620
time talent or treasure. That's
the important part. Because we

2518
02:27:59,700 --> 02:28:05,460
technically have made more by
spending less. Now building

2519
02:28:05,460 --> 02:28:08,490
website, can you imagine if we
had to build our own website?

2520
02:28:08,910 --> 02:28:11,910
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Or

2521
02:28:11,910 --> 02:28:13,770
John C Dvorak: hire artists to
do the art of

2522
02:28:13,770 --> 02:28:17,460
Adam Curry: well, you You led me
right to it? Or how about a

2523
02:28:17,460 --> 02:28:20,970
combo of that? What if you had a
guy who built a place where

2524
02:28:20,970 --> 02:28:27,360
artists could upload? And, and
okay, so sometimes things go

2525
02:28:27,360 --> 02:28:32,760
wrong and it breaks. But Sir
Paul couture, not only did he

2526
02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:36,840
fix no agenda art generator.com
But he upgraded it. We can you

2527
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:40,560
imagine the meeting we have to
have with our provider? Hey, we

2528
02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:45,300
would like a refresh of no
agenda art generator.com They'd

2529
02:28:45,300 --> 02:28:47,490
be piling on the bills. That

2530
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:51,660
John C Dvorak: mean a million
dollar site if it was going to

2531
02:28:51,660 --> 02:28:52,470
be $6 million.

2532
02:28:53,820 --> 02:28:57,030
Adam Curry: Bev has to have
meetings all kinds of horrible

2533
02:28:57,030 --> 02:29:01,110
things we don't like and so what
do we get we get a beautiful new

2534
02:29:01,110 --> 02:29:02,100
site from Sir Paul

2535
02:29:02,100 --> 02:29:03,990
John C Dvorak: you know, what's
interesting about the site I'd

2536
02:29:03,990 --> 02:29:07,800
go say this now as far as I'm
concerned is original site was

2537
02:29:07,800 --> 02:29:13,410
fine. Because I'm one of those
it's fine. Yeah. graded it to

2538
02:29:13,410 --> 02:29:16,800
the headless Drupal wherever the
last one was, and it was just a

2539
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,980
such an improvement. It was
unbelievable. And so then he

2540
02:29:19,980 --> 02:29:23,130
goes I said, Well, what do you
got? Why would you improve that?

2541
02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:30,150
Course you know me, I'm the one
with the divorce.org/and That's

2542
02:29:30,150 --> 02:29:33,840
Adam Curry: fine. Have blink
tags and red ball dark. I don't

2543
02:29:33,840 --> 02:29:34,470
have blink

2544
02:29:35,100 --> 02:29:39,270
John C Dvorak: or cats running
across the screen. But I could

2545
02:29:39,330 --> 02:29:44,010
imagine Yes, so did he upgrades
to this ridiculously modern site

2546
02:29:44,010 --> 02:29:49,740
is like beyond you. I mean, this
guy should be working for I

2547
02:29:49,740 --> 02:29:54,480
don't know who But IBM are some
was some big money outbreak. I

2548
02:29:54,480 --> 02:29:58,470
mean, it's so modern. It is
very, I mean, the other one was

2549
02:29:58,470 --> 02:30:02,130
modern. The one before that was
modern. But to keep up and make

2550
02:30:02,130 --> 02:30:04,650
it modern, on top of modern, and
if

2551
02:30:04,650 --> 02:30:07,740
Adam Curry: you notice little
things like the artists icon is

2552
02:30:07,740 --> 02:30:11,970
in there, you know, the artist
profile page shows up in the

2553
02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:16,440
artwork. It has just has all
kinds of metadata. Whoo, that's

2554
02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:22,020
expensive metadata is It is
phenomenal. And it's a little

2555
02:30:22,020 --> 02:30:26,460
slow. But I think that's just
you know, he'll be good

2556
02:30:26,460 --> 02:30:31,290
optimize. And it just it has
leaderboards, it has all the

2557
02:30:31,290 --> 02:30:36,990
artists profiles. You load up
the page, it shows you how many

2558
02:30:36,990 --> 02:30:42,030
images 31.1 1000 images, how
many artists 1400 artists?

2559
02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:45,390
John C Dvorak: This is great.
Oh, yes, every artist. Yeah,

2560
02:30:45,420 --> 02:30:48,120
Adam Curry: thank you, Sir Paul
couture. We really appreciate if

2561
02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:52,380
you see Paul, you know, go hug
him. Might give him a big hug.

2562
02:30:52,380 --> 02:30:52,500
He

2563
02:30:52,500 --> 02:30:53,100
John C Dvorak: needs it.

2564
02:30:53,130 --> 02:30:56,160
Adam Curry: Give him a hug.
Yeah, it took him a couple of

2565
02:30:56,160 --> 02:31:00,420
weeks. You know, he had the
crash last month. Yeah. But you

2566
02:31:00,420 --> 02:31:03,810
know what's beautiful about it?
We just like, okay, that's fine.

2567
02:31:03,840 --> 02:31:06,180
Because it's value for values.
Like you wouldn't have to get

2568
02:31:06,180 --> 02:31:09,720
mad. I'd have to be calling
John. Like you hired the guy.

2569
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:12,300
You finish. You fix it.

2570
02:31:13,410 --> 02:31:15,150
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
actually what happens.

2571
02:31:16,830 --> 02:31:18,660
Especially with psychos like you

2572
02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:21,150
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, no,
call me a psycho. Okay.

2573
02:31:21,750 --> 02:31:24,870
John C Dvorak: This was reminds
me of the This is Adam back in

2574
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:29,880
the day at at me, you know,
whatever was a bad show

2575
02:31:29,880 --> 02:31:33,060
originally. Okay, here we go
real casually smoking dope. He's

2576
02:31:34,620 --> 02:31:37,500
not in the office that much. But
he's there once in a while. So

2577
02:31:37,500 --> 02:31:40,140
he sent me this. He's very
lackadaisical. Yeah, even

2578
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:43,590
people, you know, people should
put in a full day's work and I

2579
02:31:43,590 --> 02:31:47,250
don't see a big deal by coming
in on time. Or, you know, you

2580
02:31:47,250 --> 02:31:49,410
just gotta get in there. Do what
you have to do and and get out.

2581
02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:54,390
So one day we decided to go he
he decided to go in front of the

2582
02:31:54,420 --> 02:32:01,410
office. As people are coming in
late streaming in late. With him

2583
02:32:01,410 --> 02:32:05,490
standing there going us make it
smell dope.

2584
02:32:05,490 --> 02:32:07,380
Adam Curry: I was still smoking
dope, dope. Oh,

2585
02:32:07,380 --> 02:32:09,300
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you can
make it. Oh, did you check the

2586
02:32:09,300 --> 02:32:11,700
time? What what time? Is it? Oh,
good. I'm glad you could come

2587
02:32:11,700 --> 02:32:15,120
in. I'm glad you came in. And I
was giving him grief. And I

2588
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:18,690
Adam Curry: was standing there
with you. We were I was

2589
02:32:18,690 --> 02:32:23,910
flabbergasted. It got to the
point where people just showed

2590
02:32:23,910 --> 02:32:28,350
up at noon. Like, come on
people. We have an office for

2591
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:32,460
this is not COVID it was way
before COVID. Anyway, anyway,

2592
02:32:32,580 --> 02:32:36,060
John C Dvorak: by the way, the
mention of the of the Art

2593
02:32:36,060 --> 02:32:40,110
Generator brought it to its
knees once again. Of course.

2594
02:32:41,070 --> 02:32:42,960
Adam Curry: No agenda art
generator.com. Thank you, Sir

2595
02:32:42,960 --> 02:32:47,010
Paul couture. And thank you to
Dame Kenny Ben, who brought us

2596
02:32:47,010 --> 02:32:50,940
the outstanding artwork for
episode 1617. We titled that

2597
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:54,570
torque in Russians, which we we
both thought that was a good

2598
02:32:54,570 --> 02:33:01,110
title. And the hohoho ozempic
Santa Claus that got lots of

2599
02:33:01,110 --> 02:33:05,580
traction. People thought that
was hilarious. That it was

2600
02:33:05,580 --> 02:33:10,020
hilarious. And it's not often
that you get such a compact,

2601
02:33:10,020 --> 02:33:16,110
beautiful, just a nugget of of
beauty. You know, with with it

2602
02:33:16,110 --> 02:33:20,700
was a takeoff it was a parody.
It was well, well illustrated.

2603
02:33:20,880 --> 02:33:25,080
It was the whole thing was was
professional. Again, something

2604
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:28,020
we could never have afforded
you. Can you imagine Hey, can

2605
02:33:28,020 --> 02:33:30,510
you we got to this title is
torque and Russians, can you

2606
02:33:30,510 --> 02:33:33,600
whip up an image for us? That,
by the way, has nothing to do

2607
02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:35,940
with torquing? Russians? Oh,
what? You didn't listen to the

2608
02:33:35,940 --> 02:33:39,630
show? No, because what are
artists do? They're listening to

2609
02:33:39,630 --> 02:33:42,630
the show and they're doing the
stuff on the fly. It's amazing.

2610
02:33:43,050 --> 02:33:47,610
It is a true testament to value
for value. And we are incredibly

2611
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:51,750
grateful to all of our artists.
Someone that said, You're being

2612
02:33:51,750 --> 02:33:52,620
performative.

2613
02:33:54,090 --> 02:33:56,430
John C Dvorak: When I say does
that mean? Well, nice regard it

2614
02:33:57,000 --> 02:34:00,060
Adam Curry: on the last show, I
said we'd like to thank that.

2615
02:34:00,060 --> 02:34:04,500
That's performative. Just say
thank you. That's a good point.

2616
02:34:05,130 --> 02:34:06,360
Politicians do that.

2617
02:34:06,780 --> 02:34:09,660
John C Dvorak: So thank you, if
you would like to say about

2618
02:34:09,660 --> 02:34:09,960
that.

2619
02:34:09,960 --> 02:34:12,990
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's another
one. Thank you, artists. Thank

2620
02:34:12,990 --> 02:34:16,140
thank all of you. And especially
Dame Kenny, Ben, we appreciate

2621
02:34:16,140 --> 02:34:19,560
you so much. Now let's go to the
treasure part of the value for

2622
02:34:19,560 --> 02:34:21,840
value model. This is where we
thank our executive and

2623
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:24,750
Associate Executive producers
and everybody who supported us

2624
02:34:24,930 --> 02:34:31,590
with monetary donations up to we
are down to $50. And this is

2625
02:34:31,590 --> 02:34:35,310
really the stuff that keeps us
going and we start off with a

2626
02:34:35,340 --> 02:34:40,140
MCI we have a handwritten note
here from Emily Andrews, and she

2627
02:34:40,140 --> 02:34:47,220
is in Salina, Texas. And it come
up with a whopping 1465 I'm

2628
02:34:47,220 --> 02:34:50,580
loading her note which is
handwritten. And she says Dear

2629
02:34:50,580 --> 02:34:54,450
John, Adam, I last donated with
a shout out with a with a short

2630
02:34:54,450 --> 02:35:04,110
thank you and you guys seemed
Haven't seen something that the

2631
02:35:04,110 --> 02:35:08,130
note wasn't longer, though
seemed down the note was so

2632
02:35:08,130 --> 02:35:12,420
Okay, so she decided to write a
longer note. I'm writing the why

2633
02:35:12,450 --> 02:35:15,420
I originally heard about you
guys from mo fax. I really

2634
02:35:15,420 --> 02:35:18,930
appreciate listening to you guys
over COVID hearing about KNC

2635
02:35:18,930 --> 02:35:23,310
capital and getting some laughs
in about the state of affairs

2636
02:35:23,370 --> 02:35:27,600
instead of agonizing over yes
that's what we do. The check is

2637
02:35:27,630 --> 02:35:31,410
a percentage of my annual bonus
from my employer. Wow, that's

2638
02:35:31,410 --> 02:35:32,790
some tithing right there. That's

2639
02:35:32,880 --> 02:35:33,570
John C Dvorak: the way to do it.

2640
02:35:33,810 --> 02:35:38,730
Adam Curry: i Oh, what are we
drinking? Polar seltzer? Boring

2641
02:35:38,760 --> 02:35:43,170
brings up good next show. I
consider your show to be a

2642
02:35:43,170 --> 02:35:47,010
ministry and appreciate your
genuine efforts to shepherd the

2643
02:35:47,010 --> 02:35:51,840
divine flock God has brought to
your podcast Wow. For giggles I

2644
02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:57,960
listened to podcast one to 20
That's episode 120. Adam, I can

2645
02:35:57,960 --> 02:36:01,230
hear the evidence of work the
work God has done in you God

2646
02:36:01,230 --> 02:36:05,220
bless you both your sister in
Christ Emily Andrews. aihole He

2647
02:36:05,220 --> 02:36:09,750
was That's right. It's It's so
true. Notice I don't cuss? I've

2648
02:36:09,750 --> 02:36:10,620
stopped that.

2649
02:36:11,190 --> 02:36:12,420
Unknown: Yeah, well that's yeah.

2650
02:36:12,600 --> 02:36:15,720
Adam Curry: And and in fact,
people have noticed that you've

2651
02:36:15,720 --> 02:36:16,650
costing more

2652
02:36:17,730 --> 02:36:21,690
John C Dvorak: I because I think
there's a cuss cost balance ACUs

2653
02:36:21,690 --> 02:36:26,820
median that we have to achieve
to have the proper cost balance

2654
02:36:26,820 --> 02:36:28,620
Adam Curry: you have so there's
so many bright okay, I

2655
02:36:28,620 --> 02:36:30,720
John C Dvorak: didn't cuss on
today's show at all. No, you

2656
02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:34,860
did. And I usually just cut for
effect you cussed as part of

2657
02:36:34,860 --> 02:36:36,660
your vocabulary that was Yeah,

2658
02:36:36,690 --> 02:36:40,500
Adam Curry: I did it a lot
actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2659
02:36:40,560 --> 02:36:42,690
John C Dvorak: Well we have your
I have I

2660
02:36:42,690 --> 02:36:45,330
Adam Curry: have people emailing
so thank you now I don't I can

2661
02:36:45,330 --> 02:36:48,720
listen around my kids again.
Except for that clip you brought

2662
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:54,480
Thank you Emily. The kids love
their kids

2663
02:36:55,650 --> 02:36:58,170
John C Dvorak: understand
cutting jobs. Good luck with

2664
02:36:58,170 --> 02:37:04,320
that. Europe No, I'm sorry dude
named Ralph comes up next and

2665
02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:10,770
he's in with 550 which is nice
in Miami, Florida. John and Adam

2666
02:37:10,770 --> 02:37:12,780
thank you for the outstanding
work you do on no agenda the

2667
02:37:12,780 --> 02:37:15,420
magical combination of YouTube
and the incredible new agenda

2668
02:37:15,420 --> 02:37:18,870
producers make this show the
best podcast in the universe.

2669
02:37:19,770 --> 02:37:25,440
Inspired by something wise John
said I reviewed my donation

2670
02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:28,410
history and I happily discovered
that the PhD contribution also

2671
02:37:28,410 --> 02:37:32,430
contribute qualify me for title
of Baron I would like to be

2672
02:37:32,430 --> 02:37:36,120
known as the Baron dude name by
the way, just to stop right

2673
02:37:36,120 --> 02:37:39,600
here. There's a number of people
and there's a list of them on

2674
02:37:39,600 --> 02:37:44,280
the no agenda rings.com site
who've gotten there got the PhD

2675
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:47,910
during the promotion is
promotions over and they've

2676
02:37:47,910 --> 02:37:52,080
never sent in the details of
where they want the diploma sent

2677
02:37:52,080 --> 02:37:57,990
or anything else Oh, please go
and do that. Before the printer

2678
02:37:57,990 --> 02:38:03,780
breaks inspired by blah blah
blah they can be known as barren

2679
02:38:03,780 --> 02:38:06,030
dude named after the suburban
South Florida. I would like

2680
02:38:06,030 --> 02:38:12,720
Mohit toes and let China Sato
Cuban style roasted pig for the

2681
02:38:12,720 --> 02:38:16,920
roundtable. I got it. I made two
Christmas donations today to

2682
02:38:16,920 --> 02:38:18,060
share 550 from a

2683
02:38:18,060 --> 02:38:21,570
Adam Curry: work bonus again
again work bonus beautiful work

2684
02:38:21,570 --> 02:38:22,230
bonus,

2685
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:26,130
John C Dvorak: no agenda and
1618 for a show number donation

2686
02:38:26,130 --> 02:38:29,550
I humbly request jobs Carmody
Helton knows for a show number

2687
02:38:29,550 --> 02:38:33,930
donation and not that magic
circle. I humbly request jobs

2688
02:38:33,930 --> 02:38:36,810
comedy helped me as I embark on
the next chapter of my career

2689
02:38:36,810 --> 02:38:39,570
respectfully dude named Ralph.
Magic

2690
02:38:39,570 --> 02:38:43,680
Adam Curry: Circle is called the
Golden Ratio. Magic Circle jobs,

2691
02:38:43,830 --> 02:38:50,340
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
That's our money

2692
02:38:51,840 --> 02:38:56,370
Adam Curry: and we got Lacey be
in Lake Mills Wisconsin. 333 33

2693
02:38:56,400 --> 02:38:58,920
favorite donation number Merry
Christmas. Happy New Year to you

2694
02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:01,770
John Adam and to your better
halves, the back office, your

2695
02:39:01,770 --> 02:39:05,010
loved ones and all have no
agenda nation and jingle bingo

2696
02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:09,120
to the OBD M crossover crowd.
This donation puts me over the

2697
02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:13,110
mark to qualify as a dame the
title Dame Lucy will suffice. I

2698
02:39:13,110 --> 02:39:16,230
talk too much in real life. So I
keep this note short. Thank you

2699
02:39:16,230 --> 02:39:19,800
for your courage, love and light
to all Lacey B Lake Mills

2700
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:22,410
Wisconsin. Thank you. Thank you
very much Lacey B.

2701
02:39:23,820 --> 02:39:26,820
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I
have to finally say hit it just

2702
02:39:26,820 --> 02:39:31,680
right. I have to take a quick
look at the note listener

2703
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:33,240
Adam Curry: keep talking in the
mic though because you're

2704
02:39:33,240 --> 02:39:35,190
dropping out. I

2705
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:42,720
John C Dvorak: am got CIM a
turbo turbo turbo Tim. Three,

2706
02:39:42,900 --> 02:39:46,530
three 3.33 And I don't have a
location for him. But I do have

2707
02:39:46,530 --> 02:39:52,440
a note which has been which is
which has been m turbo

2708
02:39:53,550 --> 02:39:59,490
handwritten note that on a piece
of Bri hole punch student paper

2709
02:39:59,790 --> 02:40:03,960
in Morning John and Adam. I
finally gotten my rear in gear

2710
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:09,240
on and here I sent you to some
much deserved treasure please de

2711
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:09,720
douche me.

2712
02:40:11,400 --> 02:40:14,370
Unknown: You've been de deuced I
just

2713
02:40:14,370 --> 02:40:19,950
John C Dvorak: realized that
episode 1617 adds up to 33. And

2714
02:40:19,950 --> 02:40:25,110
I'll be 33 on the 22nd of this
month. I knew it was time. Nice.

2715
02:40:26,370 --> 02:40:29,730
So that's interesting. We could
have cut that to 1617. Yeah,

2716
02:40:29,910 --> 02:40:33,750
another way when it made a
difference. Mike, the wood watch

2717
02:40:33,750 --> 02:40:37,170
guy introduced me to your show
about three years ago, I worked

2718
02:40:37,680 --> 02:40:41,250
for a forklift repair company in
Detroit for over eight years as

2719
02:40:41,250 --> 02:40:45,630
a mobile forklift and diesel
engine repair technician. It's a

2720
02:40:45,630 --> 02:40:51,240
good job. Yes, they kept getting
on my ass about my mask. So I

2721
02:40:51,240 --> 02:40:55,800
wrote in big letters. You're a
slave across the front and wore

2722
02:40:55,800 --> 02:41:02,100
it proudly to every customer
location as I went from, from

2723
02:41:02,100 --> 02:41:06,900
spark conversations, and wow
went to spark conversations and

2724
02:41:06,900 --> 02:41:12,660
spew truth for you, man. Yeah,
like that's ballsy. I quit after

2725
02:41:12,660 --> 02:41:17,460
refusing to take the jab and
started my own small forklift

2726
02:41:17,460 --> 02:41:21,630
and diesel truck repair business
then moved to Capek, Michigan

2727
02:41:21,630 --> 02:41:21,750
Hey

2728
02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:22,830
Adam Curry: pack a pack

2729
02:41:24,480 --> 02:41:28,860
John C Dvorak: the plan to so
electric the plan to go Electric

2730
02:41:28,860 --> 02:41:32,430
is hilarious because our world
literally functions because of

2731
02:41:32,430 --> 02:41:38,160
diesel. The EPA has had had an
American hold on has has a has a

2732
02:41:38,160 --> 02:41:43,980
hard on Oh harder for a diesel
but not in other countries.

2733
02:41:44,220 --> 02:41:49,890
Anyone who hears DPF def and
engine D rate will be triggered

2734
02:41:49,890 --> 02:41:53,550
by this totally crap they make
you put in the course. Yeah,

2735
02:41:53,580 --> 02:41:59,700
pigs urine. Yeah, pig urine.
Just yeah. Unbelievable. This is

2736
02:41:59,700 --> 02:42:01,890
my first start to knighthood.
And if I have any questions

2737
02:42:01,890 --> 02:42:04,920
about the diesel industry feel,
feel free to email me that's

2738
02:42:04,920 --> 02:42:08,250
nice. I bet you're doing very
well. In your little own your

2739
02:42:08,250 --> 02:42:13,050
own company. John is pronounced
K Pak. As Adam just told me,

2740
02:42:13,110 --> 02:42:19,110
please send it send the
sparkplug Oh, he sent Oh, he

2741
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:25,500
sent to spark plug keychains Oh,
and he sent these little

2742
02:42:25,890 --> 02:42:29,070
trinkets. I have to say they're
pretty cute. But I didn't. I

2743
02:42:29,070 --> 02:42:33,030
didn't get mine. Because I have
it I have yours that people send

2744
02:42:33,030 --> 02:42:35,310
them to me and he they have to
wait till they accumulate and

2745
02:42:35,310 --> 02:42:41,730
they'll send you a box. And so
the whole package smelled like

2746
02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:48,660
every pair garage. And I snapped
I saved Chase if this guy if

2747
02:42:48,660 --> 02:42:51,660
this guy is a repairman. No
doubt about it.

2748
02:42:51,660 --> 02:42:54,270
Adam Curry: Let me give you a
little tip. If Jhansi Dvorak

2749
02:42:54,270 --> 02:42:59,400
ever comes up to you and says,
Hey, sniff this walk away. Walk

2750
02:42:59,430 --> 02:43:05,400
away. But you'd like that. Yes.
Well, that's cool, man. Thank

2751
02:43:05,400 --> 02:43:07,980
you so much. And I also want to
thank everyone who sent all

2752
02:43:07,980 --> 02:43:12,450
these beautiful things to the
PIO box. I got fudge I got the

2753
02:43:12,450 --> 02:43:17,760
coffee. I got the coffee from
those guys. Gigawatt gigawatt

2754
02:43:17,760 --> 02:43:18,210
guys

2755
02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:21,360
John C Dvorak: yeah the fudge
the Okay, the fudge came in who

2756
02:43:21,390 --> 02:43:23,730
I know of I don't have the note
here on the fudge. I got the

2757
02:43:23,730 --> 02:43:29,940
fudge fudge came in kind of as a
mess but I have to say this if

2758
02:43:29,940 --> 02:43:34,230
you can dig through there and
find the peanut butter divinity

2759
02:43:35,730 --> 02:43:41,790
Oh, okay. It border light border
this border line. Unbelievable.

2760
02:43:41,820 --> 02:43:44,820
Yeah, I believe Yeah, like makes
a Reese's peanut butter you

2761
02:43:44,820 --> 02:43:49,470
wouldn't ever have another one
Yeah, Google they Nailed it.

2762
02:43:49,500 --> 02:43:52,650
Nailed it. The rest of the stuff
is good but these the peanut

2763
02:43:52,650 --> 02:43:54,990
whoever that I like to get that
recipe

2764
02:43:55,230 --> 02:43:58,590
Adam Curry: I got sir scoops I
got your big box of of your your

2765
02:43:58,590 --> 02:44:02,100
pirate to your pirate show. I
got

2766
02:44:04,740 --> 02:44:05,820
John C Dvorak: stuff from
diesel.

2767
02:44:06,990 --> 02:44:09,270
Adam Curry: No, I didn't get it
from DS. I did get some death.

2768
02:44:09,300 --> 02:44:13,230
Death demand. No, no. Oh, yes.
Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, that's

2769
02:44:13,230 --> 02:44:18,480
right. Yeah, and start and
stickers and magnets and all

2770
02:44:18,480 --> 02:44:23,010
kinds of stuff. And I also got,
I got a huge pack from the

2771
02:44:23,040 --> 02:44:27,600
anonymous air traffic
controller. Oh, goodness. Oh,

2772
02:44:27,600 --> 02:44:30,450
goodness. I don't think he
should have sent me that stuff.

2773
02:44:30,750 --> 02:44:35,790
He's got stuff about see 130
shooting lasers down to the

2774
02:44:35,790 --> 02:44:39,960
ground. There really? Yeah. At
the FAA. You know, send out

2775
02:44:39,960 --> 02:44:43,200
memos like hey, you know if you
guys have every right to tell

2776
02:44:43,200 --> 02:44:47,010
the C 130 with a laser to not
shoot the laser. Alright.

2777
02:44:47,700 --> 02:44:53,070
Thanks. I got a pastor who says
thank you for not cussing, and

2778
02:44:53,070 --> 02:44:57,060
got Lindsey who says it's been a
joy to listen to the podcast

2779
02:44:57,180 --> 02:45:00,450
with my 11 year old now. It's
not as explicit as it used to Be

2780
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:06,930
Thanks, John for that clip set
for the dog. But yeah. Well,

2781
02:45:06,930 --> 02:45:10,740
that's funny. That's funny. Just
so many things. Thank you all so

2782
02:45:10,740 --> 02:45:14,160
much. It was it was amazing to
go to the PIO box. I couldn't

2783
02:45:14,160 --> 02:45:17,190
believe all the stuff that that
everybody is sent to. So nice.

2784
02:45:17,580 --> 02:45:20,730
And also thank you to Ryan
Powell from Edward Washington.

2785
02:45:20,730 --> 02:45:22,650
333. By the way,

2786
02:45:22,650 --> 02:45:25,200
John C Dvorak: when one more
thing I wonder, do we ever think

2787
02:45:25,200 --> 02:45:31,080
the guy who sent us the flight,
the Air Force One jackets? Yeah,

2788
02:45:31,650 --> 02:45:34,440
yeah. Oh, we did. Oh, sure. We
just logged in as a dynamite

2789
02:45:34,440 --> 02:45:35,130
jacket. By the

2790
02:45:35,130 --> 02:45:38,370
Adam Curry: way his son got that
his son, son got those for us.

2791
02:45:38,700 --> 02:45:43,770
Yeah. Ryan Powell 333 says for
my wife's 50th birthday on the

2792
02:45:43,770 --> 02:45:46,920
18th so it's a switcheroo. I'm
still a douchebag but Christmas

2793
02:45:46,920 --> 02:45:50,010
is coming soon. Thanks, guys. So
he doesn't want to be do she

2794
02:45:50,010 --> 02:45:55,710
just wants it for his wife and
he doesn't give us her name. So

2795
02:45:55,710 --> 02:45:57,570
we'll just say Mrs. Powell.

2796
02:45:57,990 --> 02:46:01,980
John C Dvorak: Mrs. Powell. Mrs.
Powell. says what we'll do Eric

2797
02:46:01,980 --> 02:46:07,860
go wielka in Auburn, Alabama. I
ATM the citizen Adam and

2798
02:46:07,860 --> 02:46:14,100
citizens. John. I just had a pop
up hold on a second pop up.

2799
02:46:14,490 --> 02:46:21,600
Yeah. Pop Up. Outstanding show
he continues. Hope you have a

2800
02:46:21,600 --> 02:46:24,300
Merry Christmas and a Happy New
Year. So sure. Eric. That's a

2801
02:46:24,300 --> 02:46:26,370
great no for $333 How

2802
02:46:26,370 --> 02:46:29,880
Adam Curry: can you I haven't
had a pop up since 1988. It's a

2803
02:46:29,880 --> 02:46:34,290
system pop up. Oh, time to
reboot for more freedom on your

2804
02:46:34,290 --> 02:46:41,580
computer. Sir Nick, in
Waterford, Michigan 333 33. I'm

2805
02:46:41,580 --> 02:46:44,310
just trying to keep my delta
medallion. So I'm charging this

2806
02:46:44,310 --> 02:46:49,320
value for value donation to my
Amex. Please give the single and

2807
02:46:49,320 --> 02:46:52,920
ready to mingle producer some
Suazo enough karma and a trains

2808
02:46:52,920 --> 02:46:56,880
good plains bad? All right.
Well, we don't actually have a

2809
02:46:56,880 --> 02:47:01,080
Suazo enough but I did get
something together for you all

2810
02:47:01,080 --> 02:47:01,290
about

2811
02:47:01,770 --> 02:47:07,950
Unknown: trains good. Planes bad
Steena

2812
02:47:09,900 --> 02:47:11,580
you've got karma

2813
02:47:12,750 --> 02:47:14,310
Adam Curry: only smart enough I
know

2814
02:47:14,310 --> 02:47:19,140
John C Dvorak: of last executive
producers era to dairy and we

2815
02:47:19,140 --> 02:47:25,020
have to dare era and he's in
trouble. Go Canyon, California

2816
02:47:25,020 --> 02:47:28,560
333. And he's got the best
message. Merry Christmas and

2817
02:47:28,560 --> 02:47:29,610
Happy New Year.

2818
02:47:30,900 --> 02:47:35,460
Adam Curry: That's a good one.
Thank you. Ivan Babic or Yvonne

2819
02:47:35,580 --> 02:47:40,170
but I'll say Ivan in a story of
Queens a story in New York $250

2820
02:47:40,170 --> 02:47:43,590
our Associate Executive Producer
no notes that we got to double

2821
02:47:43,590 --> 02:47:44,880
up. You've got

2822
02:47:49,050 --> 02:47:52,050
John C Dvorak: your tooth fairy
in Valparaiso, Indiana comes in

2823
02:47:52,050 --> 02:47:56,160
with $223 and says boyfriend she
wants jingles he wants

2824
02:47:56,190 --> 02:48:01,290
SpaceForce to do the head Fauci
wheeze, Yak Christmas karma for

2825
02:48:01,290 --> 02:48:05,730
AW Merry Christmas boys. Zoo.
Please put me on the birthday

2826
02:48:05,730 --> 02:48:09,150
list for the 21st as I celebrate
my 38th trip around the sun I

2827
02:48:09,150 --> 02:48:12,330
figured it would be a good time
to become a baron accounting

2828
02:48:12,330 --> 02:48:17,250
below these changed my title to
cert Tooth Fairy Baron of the

2829
02:48:17,250 --> 02:48:22,680
region. Thank you for all you do
sir Tooth Fairy SpaceForce

2830
02:48:26,190 --> 02:48:33,180
Adam Curry: you've got karma and
we have another no notre

2831
02:48:33,210 --> 02:48:37,890
Christopher Burke St. Paul
Minnesota to 1234 so for you

2832
02:48:37,890 --> 02:48:43,260
also a double up karma he's got
karma

2833
02:48:45,150 --> 02:48:48,030
John C Dvorak: dollars for
Linden patcon. in Lakewood,

2834
02:48:48,030 --> 02:48:52,920
Colorado. She says jobs karma
are remarkable resume that hits

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02:48:52,920 --> 02:48:55,710
people in the miles go to any
Mischief Makers inc.com For all

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show's producer list jobs,

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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

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Adam Curry: And our final
Associate Executive producer is

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from Stormin and Norman in
Trumbull, Connecticut 200.

2842
02:49:20,760 --> 02:49:25,110
Please wish my wife Dame
Roundstone a happy 60th Coming

2843
02:49:25,110 --> 02:49:30,570
up December 30. Producer and
Rhonda Pierre we met at our

2844
02:49:30,570 --> 02:49:34,770
radio station in Connecticut in
1985. Four kids and two

2845
02:49:34,770 --> 02:49:38,400
grandkids later we're still
growing strong from storm and

2846
02:49:38,400 --> 02:49:41,910
Norman in the morning. Mornings
on w e 108.

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02:49:47,640 --> 02:49:54,330
W e 108 Stormin Norman in the
morning and you got a free

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02:49:54,330 --> 02:49:58,980
jingle out every brother you go.
That's that's our execs and our

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02:49:58,980 --> 02:50:02,130
Associate Executive Producer.
Thank you so much. We appreciate

2850
02:50:02,130 --> 02:50:05,340
it. These credits are real as
Stormin Norman he knows all

2851
02:50:05,340 --> 02:50:08,280
about it. You can use them
anywhere credits are recognized.

2852
02:50:08,280 --> 02:50:09,960
You can put them on your
LinkedIn, put them on your

2853
02:50:09,960 --> 02:50:13,830
resume, even put them on your
IMDB account, which is you know,

2854
02:50:13,830 --> 02:50:16,470
the Internet Movie Database. Oh,
I'm sorry, you don't have an

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02:50:16,470 --> 02:50:19,710
account you do now, because
there's lots of Executive

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02:50:19,710 --> 02:50:22,470
Associate Executive producers
who are listed in there because

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02:50:22,470 --> 02:50:26,490
it's an official title, and it's
good for your life. Thank you

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02:50:26,490 --> 02:50:29,520
for producing episode 1618. John
is going to take us through the

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02:50:29,520 --> 02:50:30,180
50s

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02:50:31,470 --> 02:50:36,660
John C Dvorak: starting with Sir
Sir Shawn McCune 170 39 And he

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02:50:36,660 --> 02:50:42,450
is in the Allegheny Valley. Mark
Middleton in Safety Harbor,

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02:50:42,450 --> 02:50:46,500
Florida. 120 Dan Malley in
Fremont, California right down

2863
02:50:46,500 --> 02:50:53,640
the street 113 Scott Lapierre in
South Glastonbury, Connecticut

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02:50:54,240 --> 02:51:00,900
11235 I think he needs a B
douching.

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02:51:02,760 --> 02:51:04,620
Unknown: You've been D deuced.

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02:51:05,370 --> 02:51:10,500
John C Dvorak: Oh 1123 fives of
Fibonacci donation. Brian

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02:51:10,500 --> 02:51:16,440
Lillard and prosper Texas 8888.
Sir broth in Greenfield Park,

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02:51:16,440 --> 02:51:18,810
New York at 833.

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02:51:18,840 --> 02:51:21,480
Adam Curry: And he says please
break for a night major jobs

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02:51:21,480 --> 02:51:24,330
Carmen needed. We do break for
nights both my wife and I are

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02:51:24,330 --> 02:51:27,060
attempting to gain new
employment, sell our home and

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02:51:27,060 --> 02:51:29,640
move to the Free State of New
Hampshire away from New York

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02:51:29,640 --> 02:51:32,970
with a newborn. Much appreciated
Gen Z Yes. We'll do that in a

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02:51:32,970 --> 02:51:34,950
moment. Sir broth. Kevin

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02:51:34,950 --> 02:51:37,890
John C Dvorak: McLaughlin
Concord, North Carolina 808.

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02:51:37,890 --> 02:51:43,080
This is a boobs donation. Boobs
are the region region. glute

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02:51:43,080 --> 02:51:52,410
Boobs. Boobs are the reason that
we blush he writes. He says the

2878
02:51:52,410 --> 02:51:57,750
show 1615 Small boob donation
slogan was missing. Oh, not that

2879
02:51:57,750 --> 02:52:06,300
I know of. Sir Road Dog and Twin
Falls Idaho 808. Aaron Weinberg

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02:52:06,330 --> 02:52:13,650
in Roberts Wisconsin 806 s
lopsided boobs. Parker folse in

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02:52:13,650 --> 02:52:19,560
Roswell. New Mexico. Yes. 7777
Yes. Marshall Bennett and Hart

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02:52:19,650 --> 02:52:26,610
field Virginia 7545 is now a
knight Yes. And now you lessor

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02:52:26,610 --> 02:52:33,090
ball peen the hammer and he
wants a young lady young lager

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02:52:33,090 --> 02:52:33,240
and

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02:52:33,240 --> 02:52:37,710
Adam Curry: serve berserkers
head he's there you can grab it

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02:52:37,710 --> 02:52:39,360
yourself. I'm not gonna rip

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02:52:39,360 --> 02:52:43,350
John C Dvorak: it Amina bishop
in Mission BC mission BC Canada

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02:52:43,860 --> 02:52:46,920
75 Knees a couple of D douching.

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02:52:48,810 --> 02:52:50,640
Unknown: You've been de deuced

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02:52:53,220 --> 02:52:58,290
John C Dvorak: that one for her
and then we go to Eduardo Bishop

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02:52:58,320 --> 02:53:02,820
also in Mission BC $75. Another
D douching.

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Unknown: You've been D deuced.

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02:53:08,430 --> 02:53:13,860
John C Dvorak: Kyle plus Pachi
ACK Pachi ask Pachi ask pod G

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02:53:13,860 --> 02:53:18,840
ask. Gotta know Hannibal,
Missouri 70 Sir Kevin O'Brien in

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02:53:18,840 --> 02:53:23,100
Chicago, our buddy in Chicago
606 small boobs with Kevin

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02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:27,930
McLaughlin 606 with a little
jingle or whatever you want to

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02:53:27,930 --> 02:53:33,210
call this. Boobs the eighth
wonder of the world. Know about

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02:53:33,210 --> 02:53:37,980
that? Okay, okay. Depends on the
boobs I think Tony Morrow in

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Orlando, Florida 606 Axel Powell
in Linda vital Deutschland Lind,

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Avital 60 Sir jab Java in
Elkton, Florida. 57 as a

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02:53:54,060 --> 02:53:59,610
birthday donation, Dean Roker
5510 Herbert Garrett in Raleigh,

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02:53:59,610 --> 02:54:05,070
North Carolina 5510 Brian Rogers
in Medford, New York. John you

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02:54:05,070 --> 02:54:07,710
seem to be a net he writes. We
don't read these notes normally.

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02:54:07,860 --> 02:54:11,310
John, you seem to be an expert
on native ads. I find it

2905
02:54:11,310 --> 02:54:15,030
interesting that every time you
open a can of polar all wore a

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02:54:15,030 --> 02:54:18,990
natural seltzer you talk about
it for exactly 30 seconds.

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02:54:19,440 --> 02:54:23,100
Coincidence? I think not. You

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02:54:23,100 --> 02:54:24,720
Adam Curry: taking deals on the
side man.

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02:54:25,260 --> 02:54:26,550
Unknown: I wish right?

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02:54:26,850 --> 02:54:29,460
John C Dvorak: You have cases of
this stuff gadget freaks 10 and

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Western Springs, Illinois 50.
These are all 50s Now we're

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02:54:32,190 --> 02:54:35,580
gonna do 50s name and location,
starting with gadget frequent,

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followed by Alexander vert de
Ho. In Gig Harbor, Washington,

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02:54:40,800 --> 02:54:45,120
Luke Olsen and Alexandria
Virginia. Coal quarry Bennett in

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02:54:45,120 --> 02:54:48,570
Denver, Colorado Scott lavandera
buddy in Montgomery, Texas,

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02:54:48,810 --> 02:54:55,200
Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
Fletcher Scaife, fat escapee in

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02:54:55,200 --> 02:55:00,810
Williston, North Dakota, Andrew
gusik. Sir Andrew B. exact in

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02:55:00,810 --> 02:55:05,130
Greensboro, North Carolina, Matt
Illingworth in Montclair, New

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02:55:05,130 --> 02:55:09,570
Jersey. Susan hunt in Leola
Pennsylvania needs a D douching.

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02:55:11,460 --> 02:55:13,230
On her dad, Mark Anderson

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02:55:16,109 --> 02:55:17,309
Unknown: D deuced.

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02:55:19,020 --> 02:55:22,800
John C Dvorak: for it as for
her, we can say, Nicolas, root

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02:55:22,800 --> 02:55:27,360
of itch in Harpers Ferry, West
Virginia. Daniel, sir Daniel

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02:55:27,360 --> 02:55:31,920
laboy in Bath, Michigan and last
on our list. Our favorite sir

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02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:36,090
Johnny bananas in Tinley Park,
Illinois want to thank all these

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02:55:36,090 --> 02:55:42,840
folks are making show 1618 The
Magic Circle podcast reality.

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02:55:43,560 --> 02:55:46,320
Adam Curry: And thank you to
everyone who came in under $50 I

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02:55:46,320 --> 02:55:50,160
see you 4999 Is the reason we
will never read anything below

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02:55:50,160 --> 02:55:53,670
50 that is guaranteed anonymity.
Some people require that and

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02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:57,330
thank you, those of you who are
on our sustaining donations,

2931
02:55:57,330 --> 02:56:01,950
which are small amounts, but our
regular automatic donations, you

2932
02:56:01,950 --> 02:56:06,510
can make your own applauds
people like 1111 or 3333. You

2933
02:56:06,510 --> 02:56:08,820
can do it whenever you want. We
really appreciate it. I have a

2934
02:56:08,820 --> 02:56:11,130
couple of notes to read before
we get into our birthdays and

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02:56:11,130 --> 02:56:14,550
our meetups. Tonight notes
because we have some nice things

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02:56:14,550 --> 02:56:17,940
this is from Bernie Glyn he says
I nearly choked on my mac and

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02:56:17,940 --> 02:56:20,340
cheese recently when I
discovered that you clowns would

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02:56:20,340 --> 02:56:23,760
honor a knighthood status if I
paid in Australia Australian

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02:56:23,760 --> 02:56:28,380
dollars well easy with the mac
and cheese man since I've paid

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02:56:28,380 --> 02:56:31,890
well more than paid well more
than 800 US dollars over the

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02:56:31,890 --> 02:56:38,130
years which calculates to 1194
point 39 australian dollar

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02:56:38,130 --> 02:56:41,700
reduce I hereby claim knighthood
status yes that's correct. If

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02:56:41,700 --> 02:56:44,910
this makes me a black knight it
doesn't. I would like to I'd

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02:56:44,910 --> 02:56:48,660
like to be known as Sir best
Boyd of Blair MT is not going to

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02:56:48,660 --> 02:56:53,280
be a black night that's only if
we mess it up. Yes, you observe

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02:56:53,280 --> 02:56:55,650
best avoid night of blame as
I've said regular donation to

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02:56:55,650 --> 02:57:00,330
you guys to ease my guilt please
do you do? You've been de

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02:57:00,330 --> 02:57:04,380
deuced. For the roundtable. I
only ask that you both be there

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02:57:04,380 --> 02:57:07,860
at my investiture ceremony for
the sizzling repartee. Yes, it

2950
02:57:07,860 --> 02:57:10,830
will be there Bernie Lim and a
note from Chris palamos. Who

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02:57:10,830 --> 02:57:14,490
says thank you for thanks for
all you do keeping us sane. I'd

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02:57:14,490 --> 02:57:18,840
like to be anointed sir Fetta of
the armpit of Eastern Ontario

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02:57:19,200 --> 02:57:24,990
requests Metaxa seven star and a
century Sam blunt. Thanks from

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02:57:24,990 --> 02:57:26,670
Chris. Chris.

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02:57:26,910 --> 02:57:28,950
John C Dvorak: Chris atmosphere
is not that easy to come by

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02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:30,030
Chris or Christ

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02:57:30,090 --> 02:57:32,130
Adam Curry: or anything. It's
Chris palmos we think he goes by

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02:57:32,130 --> 02:57:36,420
Christ Chris but I think by
Chris and then a very happy

2959
02:57:36,420 --> 02:57:42,060
note. I got this because I
listened to the doerfler verse

2960
02:57:42,060 --> 02:57:47,310
podcasts are TJ the wrathful has
a new human resource on the way

2961
02:57:47,310 --> 02:57:53,670
but here's the kicker John Key
reversed his vasectomy. And it

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02:57:53,670 --> 02:57:54,270
worked.

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02:57:55,470 --> 02:57:56,730
John C Dvorak: It does work
sometimes.

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02:57:56,760 --> 02:57:59,310
Adam Curry: Yeah. And I think he
reversed it because you know, he

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02:57:59,310 --> 02:58:06,120
was afraid of getting the
lesbian face so thank you. Thank

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02:58:06,120 --> 02:58:10,950
you all very much for supporting
the no agenda Show episode 1618

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02:58:11,250 --> 02:58:13,950
We appreciate you Executive
Associate exec

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02:58:13,980 --> 02:58:18,300
Unknown: our formula is this. We
go out we get people in the

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02:58:18,300 --> 02:58:18,600
mouth.

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02:58:37,980 --> 02:58:40,770
Adam Curry: Ryan Powell wishes
his wife a happy birthday she

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02:58:40,770 --> 02:58:45,570
turned 50 on the 18th Dame
Courtney Scarlett V Chicago Kate

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02:58:45,570 --> 02:58:49,830
and get more FEMA Region Five
Wisser Scopia Happy Birthday Sir

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02:58:49,830 --> 02:58:53,580
spooky celebrating the 19 jump
jump so we're ready to yesterday

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02:58:53,580 --> 02:58:59,490
sir Tewkesbury turns 38 Today,
tip turbo will be 33 to let me

2975
02:58:59,490 --> 02:59:02,820
see tomorrow. Vikon of Hamilton
of the two pennies celebrates on

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02:59:02,820 --> 02:59:06,450
the 23rd storm and Edie Norman
wishes his wife Dame Roundstone

2977
02:59:06,450 --> 02:59:11,010
a big happy one turned 60 on the
30th and TJ says Happy Birthday

2978
02:59:11,010 --> 02:59:14,730
dessert Chris Adamson happy
birthday for everybody to hear

2979
02:59:14,730 --> 02:59:16,470
the best podcast in the universe

2980
02:59:25,980 --> 02:59:28,230
Unknown: don't want to be
induced as

2981
02:59:28,230 --> 02:59:30,690
Adam Curry: you heard earlier,
we have two title changes today

2982
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:34,200
the title changes go to sort of
tooth fairy who become sir Tooth

2983
02:59:34,200 --> 02:59:37,770
Fairy Baron of the region and
dude named Ralph becomes barren

2984
02:59:37,770 --> 02:59:41,400
dude named Ralph of suburban
South Florida. Thanks to your

2985
02:59:41,400 --> 02:59:45,600
additional support in $1,000 to
the best podcast and universe we

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02:59:45,600 --> 02:59:46,440
Unknown: appreciate that

2987
02:59:46,620 --> 02:59:49,890
Adam Curry: and I almost forgot
the jobs karma, jobs,

2988
02:59:50,010 --> 02:59:53,220
Unknown: jobs and jobs for jobs.

2989
02:59:55,140 --> 02:59:57,180
Adam Curry: We had that
emergency jobs karma that are

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02:59:57,210 --> 03:00:01,260
night and day needed. Now we
have one One Dame and three

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03:00:01,260 --> 03:00:05,580
nights to go here so let's get
out your blades a regular one

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that's a nice one. I like that
jewel on that on the end there

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03:00:09,240 --> 03:00:13,680
and it's kind of cool look at
least come on up Bernie Glen

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03:00:13,890 --> 03:00:17,310
Chris Powell most Marshall
Bannon all of you are about to

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03:00:17,310 --> 03:00:20,850
enter that very exclusive club
of the Knights and danger the no

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03:00:20,850 --> 03:00:24,000
agenda round table I'm very
proud to pronounce the K the as

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game lacy sir best Boyd night of
Blair mound sir fat out of the

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armpit of Eastern Ontario and
Sir ball peen the hammer for

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you. We've got hookers and blow
we have red boys and Chardonnay,

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Metaxa seven star in a century
Sam blunt mojitos and lecture on

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asado Wang Ling lager and
servers workers head along with

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that of course we have Ruben s
women in Rosae gay Slimstock a

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baka middle a bong hits in
Brooklyn sparkling cider and

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escorts ginger ale and Jerboas
breast milk compatible man, the

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mutton and the mead. And while
you're being very gluttonous and

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all that go to no agenda
rings.com That's where you can

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look at the enemy Edinburg and
go there you can go there

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anytime you want. Take a look at
those handsome Knight and Dame

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rings. They are a signet rings,
which means if you hit someone

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in the mouth, it'll leave a
lasting mark or you could use

3011
03:01:10,590 --> 03:01:15,900
the wax that we send along with
it to seal and make your

3012
03:01:15,900 --> 03:01:18,660
official correspondence look
very official. I love getting

3013
03:01:18,660 --> 03:01:23,040
the the letters and envelopes in
the PIO box that have that are

3014
03:01:23,040 --> 03:01:26,370
sealed by the night ring. And so
I get a kick out of that. And so

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03:01:26,370 --> 03:01:28,530
will your friends and family
they'll think you're very cool.

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03:01:28,890 --> 03:01:32,460
And remember to give us your
ring size as a ring sizing guide

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at no agenda rings.com along
with a place for us to send it

3018
03:01:36,900 --> 03:01:39,810
and thank you all for supporting
the best podcast in the

3019
03:01:39,810 --> 03:01:41,220
universe. We appreciate it.

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03:01:41,910 --> 03:01:42,570
Unknown: No one.

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03:01:50,010 --> 03:01:52,770
Adam Curry: Hands down the
companion to the podcast is

3022
03:01:52,770 --> 03:01:55,650
meeting up with your fellow
slaves of Gitmo nation to human

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03:01:55,650 --> 03:01:59,070
resources all around the world.
You can find them at no agenda

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03:01:59,070 --> 03:02:02,280
meetups.com They are taking
place almost every single day of

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03:02:02,280 --> 03:02:04,920
the week. As I said as a global
phenomenon. You need this

3026
03:02:05,190 --> 03:02:08,310
because connection is
protection. And that's what

3027
03:02:08,310 --> 03:02:10,830
they're doing in Los Angeles.
Leo Bravo had flight of the no

3028
03:02:10,830 --> 03:02:14,340
agendas meet up number 47 Hey
everybody, it's Leo. Bravo. Meet

3029
03:02:14,340 --> 03:02:17,670
up number 47. Here are some
words from our guests. Hey, Adam

3030
03:02:17,670 --> 03:02:20,970
and John had Steve in the
morning. Hey guys, it's Angie

3031
03:02:20,970 --> 03:02:22,290
from the ranch in the morning.

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03:02:22,410 --> 03:02:24,750
Unknown: Everybody's beautiful.
Have a Merry Christmas in the

3033
03:02:24,750 --> 03:02:27,300
morning. Short, sweet

3034
03:02:27,330 --> 03:02:30,150
Adam Curry: and to the point we
appreciate that got a written

3035
03:02:30,150 --> 03:02:33,900
meet up from the London
producers who had their meet up.

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03:02:34,920 --> 03:02:38,610
Which was on the ones that that
was yesterday. They had it at

3037
03:02:38,610 --> 03:02:43,470
Norfolk arms GG Ryan, Steven
nasiha and 5am were there the

3038
03:02:43,470 --> 03:02:46,650
group was small but perfectly
formed. Lots of love from us to

3039
03:02:46,650 --> 03:02:49,980
yourself and John and sent some
lovely pictures. I'm glad you

3040
03:02:49,980 --> 03:02:52,410
guys had a good time. Here's
some meetups that are taking

3041
03:02:52,410 --> 03:02:55,470
place today. calling on North
Georgia slave starts at six

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03:02:55,470 --> 03:02:58,380
o'clock at Cherry Street brewing
in Alpharetta, Georgia. The

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Charlotte Thursday Third
Thursday begins this evening at

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7pm at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte,
North Carolina and tomorrow the

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ITM slaves of Bulgaria and
beyond seven o'clock at Kunal in

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Sofia, Bulgaria. Go join tal for
that and make sure you guys send

3047
03:03:14,760 --> 03:03:17,280
us a meet up report. I'm very
excited to hear how things are

3048
03:03:17,280 --> 03:03:20,790
going in Sofia, Bulgaria and how
many producers we actually have

3049
03:03:20,790 --> 03:03:23,340
there. Lots more to see
throughout the end of the year

3050
03:03:23,340 --> 03:03:27,300
into February go to no agenda
meetups.com This is where you

3051
03:03:27,300 --> 03:03:30,330
can find your connection with
other producers you'll love it.

3052
03:03:30,630 --> 03:03:33,450
Guarantee you can take your
spouse you can take your

3053
03:03:33,450 --> 03:03:36,720
boyfriend girlfriend, you can
take the kids there's always

3054
03:03:36,720 --> 03:03:40,470
loads you can take your dogs if
the venue will allow it it's a

3055
03:03:40,470 --> 03:03:44,580
family affair and you'll feel
part of the giant no agenda

3056
03:03:44,580 --> 03:03:49,050
family 16 years strong. No
agenda meetups.com If you can't

3057
03:03:49,050 --> 03:03:52,110
find one near you start one
yourself it's easy and it's

3058
03:03:52,110 --> 03:03:53,070
loads of fun

3059
03:03:55,980 --> 03:04:06,240
Unknown: hang out with Dyson
days you won't be triggered you

3060
03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:12,150
to be everybody feels the same.
It's like

3061
03:04:13,860 --> 03:04:18,600
Adam Curry: you Yes. Giant
party. It's great party. It's a

3062
03:04:18,600 --> 03:04:23,640
no agenda party. I'm so
confident about my ISO for

3063
03:04:23,640 --> 03:04:26,790
today. I'm gonna let you go
first. I'm only going to play

3064
03:04:26,790 --> 03:04:28,830
one and I'm going to I'm gonna
you're gonna hands

3065
03:04:28,830 --> 03:04:29,580
Unknown: down okay, I'm

3066
03:04:29,580 --> 03:04:32,580
John C Dvorak: sure you got a
good one bye minor all off beat.

3067
03:04:32,640 --> 03:04:34,290
Adam Curry: Okay, which one do
we start with?

3068
03:04:34,470 --> 03:04:35,610
John C Dvorak: Start with
decide.

3069
03:04:36,060 --> 03:04:40,410
Unknown: Let the people decide.
Hmm. Okay,

3070
03:04:40,440 --> 03:04:45,300
John C Dvorak: let's both be to
say the least. Let's go to

3071
03:04:45,570 --> 03:04:54,750
Fantastic. Fantastic. Okay, to
be dead. Okay, and then last

3072
03:04:54,750 --> 03:04:55,440
save you.

3073
03:04:56,580 --> 03:04:58,200
Unknown: I'm here to save you.

3074
03:04:58,440 --> 03:05:01,860
Adam Curry: That's pretty good.
And I wouldn't say that normally

3075
03:05:01,860 --> 03:05:06,240
would have won the prize. We're
not for this one. Merry

3076
03:05:06,240 --> 03:05:06,900
Unknown: Christmas, you

3077
03:05:06,900 --> 03:05:08,190
filthy perverts.

3078
03:05:08,250 --> 03:05:14,160
Adam Curry: Come on. Come on.
That's as winner written all

3079
03:05:14,160 --> 03:05:15,180
over, don't you think?

3080
03:05:15,480 --> 03:05:20,790
John C Dvorak: I think is such a
bad example. And is funny. Come

3081
03:05:20,790 --> 03:05:22,770
Adam Curry: on. It's funny. It's
fantastic.

3082
03:05:23,130 --> 03:05:25,260
Unknown: All right, now it's
time for

3083
03:05:28,170 --> 03:05:29,640
GDC

3084
03:05:29,670 --> 03:05:32,850
Adam Curry: good news,
everybody, John. Well, let's to

3085
03:05:32,850 --> 03:05:36,600
be more specific. Mimi has
scoured the internet finding

3086
03:05:36,660 --> 03:05:37,980
some news.

3087
03:05:38,310 --> 03:05:40,920
John C Dvorak: I have to get. I
have to sort through them. And

3088
03:05:41,790 --> 03:05:44,580
so I picked this one. This is a
woman who this is just one of

3089
03:05:44,580 --> 03:05:48,210
those heart. This is a good news
story about a woman who got

3090
03:05:48,210 --> 03:05:53,070
graduated and she and she
graduated with her baby with

3091
03:05:53,070 --> 03:05:54,510
her. And this was cute.

3092
03:05:54,630 --> 03:05:57,240
Unknown: And it was another
special graduation day at Ferris

3093
03:05:57,240 --> 03:06:00,060
State University over the
weekend. A woman graduated

3094
03:06:00,060 --> 03:06:03,810
walking across the stage with
her newborn baby nestled into

3095
03:06:03,810 --> 03:06:06,870
her now, Grace Szymczak was
supposed to have a C section

3096
03:06:06,870 --> 03:06:10,980
today. Actually, it said baby
girl Annabelle came 10 days

3097
03:06:11,010 --> 03:06:14,340
early. Grace said she had been
working hard at her degree in

3098
03:06:14,370 --> 03:06:17,790
early childhood education. She
wasn't letting anything stop her

3099
03:06:17,790 --> 03:06:20,850
from walking on graduation day.
That just meant she had

3100
03:06:20,850 --> 03:06:24,420
Annabelle strapped into her baby
carrier with her the whole time.

3101
03:06:24,540 --> 03:06:24,720
And

3102
03:06:24,720 --> 03:06:28,110
I kind of hope it inspires
another mom to like go back to

3103
03:06:28,110 --> 03:06:31,620
school and like show that she
can do it too. I hope to see her

3104
03:06:31,650 --> 03:06:35,730
walk across the stage one day to
whichever college or university

3105
03:06:35,730 --> 03:06:41,070
she chooses. without me having
to carry her and

3106
03:06:41,070 --> 03:06:44,640
she says baby Annabelle actually
did very well and did not fuss

3107
03:06:44,640 --> 03:06:47,970
the entire ceremony. Now Grace
will be teaching full time with

3108
03:06:47,970 --> 03:06:50,550
preschoolers at a strong
Beginnings program in Traverse

3109
03:06:50,550 --> 03:06:51,120
City. I

3110
03:06:51,120 --> 03:06:52,680
really give her a lot of credit.
You're

3111
03:06:52,740 --> 03:06:53,520
you talk to her. I

3112
03:06:53,520 --> 03:06:55,140
mean, she's pretty incredible.

3113
03:06:55,200 --> 03:06:59,310
I honestly I'm just shocked that
the newborn baby was calm that

3114
03:06:59,310 --> 03:07:02,250
entire ceremony because those
can be really long ceremonies.

3115
03:07:02,460 --> 03:07:05,220
That's very impressive. But what
a great memory for him really?

3116
03:07:05,310 --> 03:07:05,790
Oh,

3117
03:07:05,790 --> 03:07:10,710
Adam Curry: a great memory. And
it's so politically incorrect

3118
03:07:10,710 --> 03:07:14,160
because you know, it's a
birthing person, not a mom. So I

3119
03:07:14,160 --> 03:07:18,060
like that about the clip. I
thought that was excellent. And

3120
03:07:18,090 --> 03:07:20,880
you know, Jay was just that was
a wholesome clip. Very good. It

3121
03:07:20,880 --> 03:07:22,500
made me find that one. Did you
find that one?

3122
03:07:22,710 --> 03:07:25,260
John C Dvorak: She found that
one but there was something in

3123
03:07:25,260 --> 03:07:28,260
there that to me was
disconcerting that may or may or

3124
03:07:28,260 --> 03:07:34,770
disconcerting. disconcert it may
or may not be noticeable. But

3125
03:07:34,800 --> 03:07:40,350
how she has the baby 10 days
before she's scheduled to have a

3126
03:07:40,350 --> 03:07:41,250
C section. I

3127
03:07:41,250 --> 03:07:42,540
Adam Curry: know that's weird,
isn't it?

3128
03:07:43,170 --> 03:07:45,000
John C Dvorak: Say guy yeah,
you're gonna have weed looks

3129
03:07:45,000 --> 03:07:46,980
like this be your due date.
We're gonna give you a C

3130
03:07:46,980 --> 03:07:51,480
section. This is today's modern
hospital environment. They just

3131
03:07:51,480 --> 03:07:52,950
see sex. Money

3132
03:07:52,950 --> 03:07:55,830
Adam Curry: extra naughty women
money. Money is more money.

3133
03:07:56,160 --> 03:07:56,640
Yeah, you

3134
03:07:56,640 --> 03:07:59,460
John C Dvorak: get a man you get
him out. It costs more perfect.

3135
03:08:01,410 --> 03:08:03,480
Adam Curry: Another good news
story.

3136
03:08:04,620 --> 03:08:11,850
Unknown: A good news story from
JCD happy vibes for you and me.

3137
03:08:11,850 --> 03:08:16,710
And we all feel better. Now he's
done his bit. To back to

3138
03:08:16,710 --> 03:08:19,170
reality. That's turning to shit.
Good

3139
03:08:19,170 --> 03:08:22,290
Adam Curry: news. Every single
no agenda show everybody our

3140
03:08:22,290 --> 03:08:26,010
feet are wrapped in good news.
And we love it that way. And

3141
03:08:26,010 --> 03:08:29,520
that concludes our
deconstruction date, which we

3142
03:08:29,520 --> 03:08:32,940
love doing for you. We enjoy it
very much. And we thank you for

3143
03:08:32,940 --> 03:08:37,440
returning value for the value
you received. makes us feel good

3144
03:08:37,440 --> 03:08:39,840
makes us want to show up again
makes us not want to find an

3145
03:08:39,840 --> 03:08:45,420
exit strategy. But to be honest,
we're always looking at some

3146
03:08:45,420 --> 03:08:49,560
great value from our end of show
mixers. Jesse Coyne Nelson, che

3147
03:08:49,560 --> 03:08:52,290
Z and Sir Michael Anthony.
That'll be the last one. I

3148
03:08:52,290 --> 03:08:56,160
guarantee you. It's not AI. It's
just sort of Michael Anthony.

3149
03:08:57,270 --> 03:08:58,500
John C Dvorak: No, he's talented
guy.

3150
03:08:59,160 --> 03:09:02,490
Adam Curry: That's what I mean.
No AI can can rack it up against

3151
03:09:02,520 --> 03:09:06,390
our talented people. And that's
you. You are the producers of

3152
03:09:06,390 --> 03:09:11,310
this podcast. So go forth your
commission to feel proud and hit

3153
03:09:11,310 --> 03:09:16,470
people in the mouth. And I am
coming to you from the heart of

3154
03:09:16,470 --> 03:09:20,460
the Texas Hill Country where we
have extra body bags for April

3155
03:09:20,460 --> 03:09:23,100
eights. In the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

3156
03:09:23,730 --> 03:09:27,060
John C Dvorak: And I'm from
Northern Silicon Valley where it

3157
03:09:27,060 --> 03:09:30,120
rained yesterday is nice today
and it's gonna rain tomorrow.

3158
03:09:30,120 --> 03:09:31,950
I'm John C. Dvorak. We return

3159
03:09:31,950 --> 03:09:34,710
Adam Curry: on Sunday, which
will be Christmas Eve right

3160
03:09:34,710 --> 03:09:37,800
after Darren O'Neal's rock and
roll pre Christmas show. Until

3161
03:09:37,800 --> 03:09:42,750
then. Remember us at divorce.
act.org/na Adios mofos a hui

3162
03:09:42,750 --> 03:09:49,980
Hui, and such we work Christmas
go lagenda gay to me to abuse

3163
03:09:49,980 --> 03:09:51,630
before extinction. The

3164
03:09:51,630 --> 03:09:53,940
Unknown: world is going to end
in 12 years if we don't address

3165
03:09:53,940 --> 03:09:54,840
climate change.

3166
03:09:56,070 --> 03:09:57,660
11 jingles jingles?

3167
03:09:57,810 --> 03:10:03,030
John C Dvorak: Someone's getting
cornhole today? Yeah. Ah in her

3168
03:10:03,030 --> 03:10:14,190
head this is a virtual scumbag.
Trick false knowing Trump

3169
03:10:14,190 --> 03:10:20,370
rotations narcissist mean long
ties, insane tweets too much

3170
03:10:20,400 --> 03:10:24,060
small hands small penis Big Red
Button criminal

3171
03:10:24,570 --> 03:10:25,710
Unknown: creatures reported a

3172
03:10:26,610 --> 03:10:30,900
legend legend legend legend
legend legend legend was knowing

3173
03:10:32,160 --> 03:10:34,440
dog six foamers forming

3174
03:10:40,920 --> 03:10:50,850
emotional support goats for job
combos jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs

3175
03:10:50,940 --> 03:10:51,420
three

3176
03:10:51,420 --> 03:11:02,940
jobs chair squeaking grill yeas
are short in dealer's choice is

3177
03:11:02,940 --> 03:11:06,960
this Crown Hall day two? Oh,

3178
03:11:07,290 --> 03:11:11,400
Merry Christmas, Mofo

3179
03:11:14,880 --> 03:11:20,340
you know Clinton and Cosby are
Kelly and Colby, Weinstein and

3180
03:11:20,340 --> 03:11:31,200
spacey and Jared from Subway.
The most famous rapist of all

3181
03:11:32,430 --> 03:11:39,180
Jaffery had word Epstein had an
island full of love kittens,

3182
03:11:39,330 --> 03:11:47,010
found him with politicians for
his ready to begin flew all love

3183
03:11:47,010 --> 03:11:53,040
the deep state assets. Were
afraid if he's already noticed

3184
03:11:53,190 --> 03:11:58,410
they didn't want their sex
crimes posted to the internet.

3185
03:12:00,120 --> 03:12:08,790
So one moggy New York night, the
Glen den cartel K glitched in

3186
03:12:08,790 --> 03:12:14,790
the guards naps while Jeffrey
Epstein's neck was then all the

3187
03:12:14,790 --> 03:12:22,470
media coverage. sad it was a
mystery. You're not allowed to

3188
03:12:22,470 --> 03:12:31,050
protest and we're blaming China
Merry Christmas to filthy animal

3189
03:12:33,660 --> 03:12:39,840
Oh global citizens visit Santa
Klaus I am checking my list to

3190
03:12:39,840 --> 03:12:45,060
see who is being naughty or
nice. According to ESG first

3191
03:12:45,060 --> 03:12:49,110
punishment will be for the
climate change deniers if you

3192
03:12:49,110 --> 03:12:53,130
are not eat Do not worry. We
will not put a lump of coal in

3193
03:12:53,130 --> 03:12:57,570
your stocking coal is made of
carbon and carbon is bought in

3194
03:12:57,570 --> 03:13:01,320
by ESG. So we will just take
your stocking wounds or other

3195
03:13:01,320 --> 03:13:07,020
gifts you will get nothing or be
happy. Another tradition is a

3196
03:13:07,020 --> 03:13:11,340
leaving of cookies on the middle
class and these cookies must be

3197
03:13:11,340 --> 03:13:18,420
100% Vegan owns a milk must be
soy milk under ESG will be no

3198
03:13:18,420 --> 03:13:23,580
more cow milk wound of course no
more meat. You may also leave

3199
03:13:23,580 --> 03:13:27,780
for Santa's cookies made basic
like get flour with a glass of

3200
03:13:27,780 --> 03:13:33,210
cockroach milk but even I will
not eat this. You will eat this

3201
03:13:33,240 --> 03:13:37,320
maybe not this year, maybe not
next year, but we still have

3202
03:13:37,320 --> 03:13:42,090
plenty of time to implement
agenda 2030 So now is the

3203
03:13:42,120 --> 03:13:47,100
opportunity for giving hugs
exchanging gifts and eating that

3204
03:13:47,790 --> 03:13:53,130
makes them most sustainable
freedom Visalia still got it V.

3205
03:13:53,580 --> 03:13:58,920
World Economic Forum Wish You a
Merry Christmas and a Happy New

3206
03:13:58,920 --> 03:14:04,110
vote. So long. Oh, Fida saying
good luck.

3207
03:14:12,480 --> 03:14:15,960
vorak.org/in A

3208
03:14:16,980 --> 03:14:19,260
Merry Christmas, you filthy
perverts.