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Unknown: Take her up.

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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
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awardwinning give our nation
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Unknown: is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: anarchy on the
airwaves and we're broadcasting

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live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country here. FEMA reached

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I've

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noticed Megyn Kelly has ozempic
face. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg

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Adam Curry: You You notice that
after I told you she had that?

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Come on? Yeah, man.

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John C Dvorak: After you told me
I didn't get I was lucky. I

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wasn't. What can I say? Took me
a wild. One view is oh my god,

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this is not good. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: I told you. I told
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John C Dvorak: I am indebted to
your accuracy.

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Adam Curry: Well, since you
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away. I think we need to look at
the script. Because they're

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unhinged and out of control. The
house people, the United States

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media apparatus is controlled by
big pharma, and they do not have

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your best interests at heart.
Please believe me when I say

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this, ah, they Okay, so remember
Sanjay Gupta from CNN, what I

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had on the last show where he
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was like, the

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John C Dvorak: guy that that
Rogen chewed out on his show on

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a horse paste.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So,
you know, ivermectin. Oh, that's

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horse pace. What are you doing
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John C Dvorak: This is just a
cheap peptide anyone can get if

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Adam Curry: using this and
you're getting it from a

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pharmacy that does compounding
which Big Pharma has hated

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forever. You are now poisoning
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on the last show, we had his
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a 15 100% increase in people
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it's not ozempic. And we'll go V
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you so you can't overdose. No.
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compounded versions, not just
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improving the script. We're
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Unknown: fact that was a totally
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weight loss drugs that we've
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keep tabs on what's going on
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this new reporting talks about
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across the United States.
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in calls related to accidental
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That's the injection medication
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loss. They've become so popular
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so from January through
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reported nearly 3000 calls
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is more than a 15 fold increase
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knockoff or compounded versions
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many of the calls

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Adam Curry: knock offs knock
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John C Dvorak: Well let's let's
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Adam Curry: I have a couple more
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John C Dvorak: want to go to the
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the fashion industry? Oh, yes.
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because there's no copyright on
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some guy making fancy dresses
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the current styles and then the
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offs. She implies a cheap copy,
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Adam Curry: Ah, you know, the
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these drugs certainly for
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dosage dial. That's their
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if you they can read patented.
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repackaged it I'm sure they put
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there. Let's have a listen here
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Unknown: The percentage of
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prescription has increased well
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by their patients lose weight,
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accidents and Miss applications,
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improper doses. Charles
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epics since April to manage his
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Unknown: I didn't feel well had
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John C Dvorak: stop for a
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you injecting yourself with this
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instructions were how do you
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something like this was an
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Adam Curry: they're going to
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morons, people are idiots, and
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know, just plain old GLP one
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pharmacy. You're idiots. You're
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Unknown: feel well, it's like I
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still didn't feel well for a
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imitation. That's where he saw
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product comes in a pen that has
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and syringes, and it's up to the
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amount of medication to
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Adam Curry: Yes, oh, we can't
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People have been injecting
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centuries, probably. Well, not
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though has a different slant on
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popular Diabetes drugs being
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says it has quote received
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Adam Curry: Wait a minute, did
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now all of a sudden because they
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goodness, I thought you never
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Unknown: semaglutide. That's the
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like ozempic and Wigo V. People
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weight loss drugs are in high
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Adam Curry: Thanks for the
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news clip, I'm going to include
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two Arizona NBC affiliate ladies
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you ladies bonus bonus bonus.
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exactly the same as the side
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action. from Mattel. They are
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same. So part of the script is
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which suck ask Sharon Osbourne
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Megan Kelly, she'll never ask me
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say hey, well, you pooping your
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John C Dvorak: Oh, geez, you
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Adam Curry: So that's, that's
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possible side effects. I think
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your doctor of course you say
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of overdosing or taking too
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Unknown: It's believed knockoff
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many of the calls. So let's talk
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astonishing. So no, I cannot
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first of all the prescriptions
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widely used now for diabetes as
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other two It is actually dosing
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Adam Curry: be approved notice
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Unknown: comes in a prefilled
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symptoms, while the body clears
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that is frightening, okay,
there's a few I mean, you just

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and how to take these
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Okay. Excellent advice. Sonal.
Thank you. I know we're going to

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Adam Curry: right. We're gonna
do it all over again. And they

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did it again. They did another
report. So everybody's on the

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take. This is every one is on
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evidence to back that up. But
let's not forget America's

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favorite conservative doctor
from Fox News, Doc Siegel. Oh,

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he was all in on the COVID
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Carlson? Oh, yeah, Tucker, and
he hates marijuana. Oh, target

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marijuana, no good. But this
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Unknown: We've been talking all
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weight loss. But many of the
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anxiety and depression since
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feel better. Anxiety. That's
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depression. But increasing
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positive effect of ozempic. And
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brain, what are they doing?
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addictive eating. When it when
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hormone and this is actually
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you don't feel hungry. And you
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from a breakthrough study in
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the way, anyone remember the
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that went with the opioid
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this report from Reuters, which
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gonna have to take that as fact,
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accepting money from Novo
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hear that the script is only for
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not talking about as any of the
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Manjaro or deskbound. So one of
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treatment have to be taken long
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Adam Curry: It's a neuro
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John C Dvorak: the truth. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: she's paid to to
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happens is our body is very,
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by carrying shaft, and our body
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little fat because then we would
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functions well. And so there's a
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sweet spot that defended fat
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Adam Curry: the defended fat
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John C Dvorak: I like the idea
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our current obesogenic
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John C Dvorak: like that one too
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Adam Curry: How do they come up
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John C Dvorak: For Chautala
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I'll go fat mass, I want to fat
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processed foods. The lack of
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Adam Curry: an obesogenic
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you live in McDonald's.

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Unknown: In physical activity,
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Adam Curry: yeah, lack of sleep.
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Adam Curry: What is what does
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John C Dvorak: is tasty. They
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foods. The lack of sleep, the
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Adam Curry: Yes, yes, that makes
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Adam Curry: I tried to stand
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things in our obesogenic
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the defended fat mass setpoint
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Adam Curry: ball beautifully.
Well said, Here's your check.

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John C Dvorak: Here's your I'll
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to hell.

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Adam Curry: She's going I'm
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Senate. And I mean, Bernie
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it's, of course, our obesogenic
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they're creating an obesogenic
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John C Dvorak: to put a Senate
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Adam Curry: Luckily, at the end,
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kicker of sanity from the
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Unknown: say last year, the US
spent nearly 413 billion should

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Adam Curry: probably say this,
again, is about trying to get

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this stuff onto Medicare. They
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for by the rest of America.
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That's up 27%. Over the past six
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Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders
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number of children in America
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estimated to skyrocket by nearly
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Number one Thursday, Dr. Keisha
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Health Education Labor and
Pensions Committee that rising

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insulin prices put some of her
patients health in jeopardy

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what happened insist that
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medications. And so they go
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other conditions like obesity.
It's harder for their

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constituents to even access the
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How can Congress ensure that all
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from this medication have access
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issue is important. But there's
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and Sanders says Congress also
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Adam Curry: keep the farmer ads
banned the junk food ads after

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Unknown: this. Congress needs to
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and drug industries accountable.
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have a food industry that
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and a drug industry that profits
from treating them. Thank

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Adam Curry: you, doctor. There
you go. Give that lady a check.

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That is exactly what's going on.
The food companies keep you

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sick. And the pharmaceutical
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you just healthy enough to

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John C Dvorak: live enough to go
buy more crappy food. Yes

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Adam Curry: to push the button
fill out the form. buy more

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food. Eat some meats people eat
some meat. It's unbelievable.

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This is this is an all out
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Oh, don't worry about it. You
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live? Oh, oh, you're in an
obesogenic environment. No

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problem. We got this special.
Don't take don't take the cheap

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one. Ah, because that'll make
you poop. No. You want this one

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with the dial on it. Ah. Protect
your children please. As

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unbelievable these people go.
Anyway, that was my big pharma

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report. Congratulations,
everybody.

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John C Dvorak: Yes, he scraped
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Adam Curry: was the script. I
mean, I don't know if they're

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going to come up with another
angle. I couldn't have they

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would have clips. Of course they
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more locals and learning shows.
You know what? The country know

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what to expect next I expect

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John C Dvorak: ever forbids
giving us any news world news

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report.

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Adam Curry: Here's what I
expect. I expect before the year

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is out. We will see a morning
news person self injecting on

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camera just to show how easy it
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John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not
going to condemn you for

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predicting the obvious.

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Adam Curry: I just want to see
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John C Dvorak: But I agree.
You're probably right. Some

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idiot one of these people are
going to Who will it be?

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Adam Curry: Who's fat? Who's
faking? It

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John C Dvorak: should be Al
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Adam Curry: No Al Roker. He lost
all the weight. No,

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John C Dvorak: but he still kind
of how about Whoopi, Whoopi? No,

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she won't do it. Now. She get
too much pride. Who else do we I

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would do it. It has to be one of
the women that it would be

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something like Savannah who's
kind of like she's not

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Adam Curry: How about Gail Gail
still has a little punch punch

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to her. Gail won't do it now.
Well, Oprah did it. Oprah

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admitted that she did it.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
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Do it once it'll do it on camera
have to be the most shameless of

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the morning people. Yeah. That's
why I think Savannah would do

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it. But you're right you
probably shouldn't condemn her

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for your a thing why you're
doing it?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, we need
someone who's you know clearly

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obesogenic.

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John C Dvorak: Okay, how about
this, okay, they bring it they

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do a cattle call and they bring
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Adam Curry: nation's local
station local anchor, and they

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John C Dvorak: her onto the
network. Yeah, because this

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might be her big chance.
Convince her Asia that she

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should come to New York. Hey,

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Adam Curry: hey, I gotta listen.
I got some great news for you.

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You're gonna go national baby.
You're gonna be on the network.

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Oh, really? Yeah, all you got to
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John C Dvorak: have to be
somebody already taking it so

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they won't even be shy about

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Adam Curry: well that could be
any morning disc jockey. That

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would also the morning disc
jockeys they you know, they

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always used to Hey, Hey John,
how you doing on the Nutrisystem

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diet. I'm still retaining water,
but I'm down to 240 pounds. I've

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been on so many mornings.
Morning Show guys live in

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obesogenic life. They really do
they eat.

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John C Dvorak: They're jolly.

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Adam Curry: Jolly Yes. It just
it is so disturbing that the

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calling for oh, we should outlaw
advertising of fast food. To

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keep the drugs going though.
keep them going.

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John C Dvorak: That was a good
one. That's actually the best

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Adam Curry: Yes. Well, that's
why I played it last month. I've

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been doing this for 45 years. 45
years have been doing this

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stuff. Sorry, I was I was I was
rolling into the next bit. Roll

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by three, experiment. JC
comparing story from ABC, CBS.

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all scripts, all the same stuff.

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interesting to hear what is

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going on and JCVD is three by
three. Well, this

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John C Dvorak: is an interesting
this leads into my more

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extensive Hamas report, which
will be revealing what I

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consider to be the scam of this
entire conflict conflagration in

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the Middle East. But this is a
I'm not sure where this goes

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except for some clip I have that
follows us of Jake Tapper.

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discussing things but let's go
into the three by three

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discussing the conflagration in
the Middle East with ABC.

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Unknown: ABC just started off
tonight that high stakes meeting

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in Israel. Thank you for your
support national security

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adviser Jake Sullivan urging
Prime Minister Benjamin

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Netanyahu to scale back the most
intense fighting amid the

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soaring civilian death toll in
Gaza.

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He did talk about possible
transitioning from what we would

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call high intensity operations
which is what we're seeing them

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do now to lower intensity
operate Oh lower intensive

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sometime, you know in the near

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future US official confirming a
report in The New York Times

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that a lower intensity operation
may involve the use of smaller

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groups of elite Israeli forces
that would carry out more

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precise missions to find and
kill Hamas leaders rescue

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hostages and destroy tunnels.
President Biden weighing in

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I want them to be focused on how
to save civilian lives. Not stop

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going after a mosque but be more
careful.

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A US official confirming that
nearly half the air to ground

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munitions that Israel has used
in Gaza. unguided so called dumb

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bombs. Experts say dropping
bombs which a Pentagon official

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claims Israel is doing can boost
their precision and Yahoo

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defined saying Israel is more
determined than ever to continue

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fighting until Hamas is
eliminated. The Israeli military

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is releasing this video showing
dozens of men with their hands

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up surrendering, claiming their
Hamas militants who were

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operating inside a hospital for
the gardens living under

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Israel's relentless bombardment,
desperation and fear. Nowhere is

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safe. And after 69 days of
fighting concern for the more

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than 100 hostages who are still
in the hands of Hamas. The Biden

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administration wants Israel to
move to a more tactical targeted

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operation as soon as possible
but they also want a plan for

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the future of Gaza not just the
end of Hamas.

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Adam Curry: Okay, so let me see
if I if I understood correctly.

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We're calling for some bull crap
measure going from high

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intensity to low intensity
stopped with the dumb bombs and

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be more focused be more precise
I'm missing the word I'm missing

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the word surgical and and we're
missing a Tim what's your

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strategy? Is that what I'm
hearing? Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: pretty much and
then my favorite thing about

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these bomb things when all of a
sudden we smart bombs dumb

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bombs. Remember the barrel bomb

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Adam Curry: barrel bomb from the
helicopters those were the best

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Yes, yeah. Well, it turns out
all of that was phony and fake.

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John C Dvorak: You think? So
let's go that was what that was

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ABC. NBC same same report only
this time we got to Richard

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angle. The spook NBC spook

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Unknown: as Israel's war on
Hamas devastates the Gaza Strip.

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President Biden was asked if
Israel needs to tone down its

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military operation often do

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focused on how to save civilian
lives. Not stopped going after a

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mosque but be more careful.

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National Sheikh Salim exactly

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Adam Curry: clip Yep, same clip.
Be more careful. Hey, kill

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carefully.

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Unknown: Not stop going after a
minute but be more careful.

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National Security Adviser Jake
Sullivan meeting Israeli Prime

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Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
today. To US officials familiar

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with the discussion. Tell NBC
News Sullivan told the Israeli

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government the administration
wants Israel to end its large

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scale ground campaign in Gaza
and transition to a more

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targeted phase of its war
against Hamas bought that

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Sullivan did not specify a
timetable to do this. Israeli

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military officials tell NBC News
What

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Adam Curry: was that someone

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John C Dvorak: who has the woman
in the back room has stepped

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over some chords and like the
mic there was

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Adam Curry: supposed to be a
bomb explosion there But instead

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they did this that was that's
wrong. Hey, the editor NAT pops.

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Okay,

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Unknown: US bought that Sullivan
did not specify a timetable to

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do this. Israeli military
officials tell NBC News tonight.

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We

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Adam Curry: should fix that for
them. I mean, they just didn't

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do that. Right. So let me see.

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John C Dvorak: I agree. Okay. I
think machine gun fire that's

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what I want machine

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Adam Curry: gun machine gun.
Okay. Yeah, I

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John C Dvorak: got some good
machine gun stuff.

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Adam Curry: I got something
here. So we do an AK 47. So,

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hey, why don't have ak 47. Oh,
there we go. Okay, there we go.

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Fix it for him. We'll fix it of
its

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Unknown: war against Hamas
bought that Sullivan did not

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specify a timetable to do this.
Israeli military officials tell

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NBC News so much they anticipate
a long military campaign, but

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recognize they are under
pressure because of Palestinian

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casualties and the humanitarian
collapse in Gaza. Our crew

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filmed the aftermath of Israeli
strikes today and followed the

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victims to a hospital. This was
in southern Gaza, where

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Palestinians have been ordered
to go. Israel says its war is

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more than justified after Hamas
massacred at least 1200 Israelis

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and took 240 hostages on October
7. Richard,

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I want to go back to this new US
intelligence assessment about

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the bombs Israel has been using
in Gaza. What's the significance

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of that report?

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Well, the assessment says that
about 40 to 45% of the air to

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ground munitions 29,000 air to
ground munitions that Israel has

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dropped on Gaza since October 7
are unguided. Which are far less

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precise.

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Adam Curry: Dustin Oh unguided.
A different word for dumb. Okay.

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unguided, unguided.

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John C Dvorak: Alright, so they
were being set up for something

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here not sure. What Yeah, I have
some ideas which will follow

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let's start with the this
finishes up with our the one

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that always is the best at the
end. CBS always

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Adam Curry: Yeah, the CIA
broadcasting systems. Here we

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go. Only Saturday. Nice. Nice.
Nice. Nice. Good start boys.

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Good start. Very good.

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Unknown: In a shattered school,
Israel's military said it killed

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many militants in intense
fighting in the past day,

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hailing the surrender of about
70 alleged Hamas fighters in the

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south Israeli strikes and
leveled homes and killed dozens

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in Rafah and con Eunice. One
survivor said their children,

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today's deaths adding to the
more than 18,000 killed

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according to Gaza's health
ministry run by Hamas. President

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Biden weighed in,

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worked into how to save civilian
lives. Not stopped going after a

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monster be more careful with

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national security adviser Jake
Sullivan in Israel today. Pres

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Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu on a timeline to US

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officials tell CBS News Israel's
current phase of its offensive

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should be completed in two to
three weeks followed by lower

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levels of bombing for several
months lower levels. On Israeli

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TV, Mr. Netanyahu said I told
our American friends were more

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determined than ever until Hamas
is eliminated

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the he's playing a game a
political game on look at me.

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I'm standing up to American
pressure

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alone. Pincus is Israel's former
consul general in New York as

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what future pressure will the

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US supply. Refrain from a veto
vote at the UN Security Council

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there are several courses of
pressure that the US can apply.

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One of those are these frequent
visits.

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As Israel's president in Tel
Aviv marked the last night of

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this year's festival of lights,
the country still hopes for a

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miracle, the return of more than
100 hostages still held in

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captivity. And while the US and
Israel are working together

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towards another phase of hostage
releases, the two do not agree

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on who will govern Gaza after
this war is over.

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Adam Curry: Well at least they
give a better timeline they had

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same clip of Biden of course
killed carefully

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John C Dvorak: exactly the same
clip which is usually all three

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networks don't have the exact
same clip cut exactly the same.

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So how does that happen? They
call each other up no

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Adam Curry: they got their money

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John C Dvorak: get one clip from
the White House and say use this

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if they

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Adam Curry: send out a vinyl
like we used to get back in the

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day. That big big special vinyl
you could only play 516

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John C Dvorak: is transcription
disk is what it's called. Thank

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Adam Curry: you. Yes, look that
up people transcription disk.

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And you take the clip from
there. That's all they got.

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Yeah, of course. People are busy
in the newsrooms. They don't

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have time to be looking for
clips busy. They don't have no

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agenda producers looking for
clips for everybody. No. Oh,

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they got they are busy. They're
busy especially around the

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holidays is the B team.
Everybody's out. Oh, we got a

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war. Yeah, but you promised me
two weeks of vacation at

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Christmas time. But we got two
wars. I don't care bring in Bob.

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Bob works at in Idaho, he can do
it bring in the affiliate boys.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, there is an
element of that for sure. So I

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want to continue this because I
have a thesis that is of course

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the thesis is not new to the
show and is not new to our

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analysis of the Middle East
there

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Adam Curry: why even bother?
Let's just go straight to Taylor

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Swift news

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John C Dvorak: Okay, by the way,
you know, the Incognito grow,

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who writes on every so really
still around,

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Adam Curry: he doesn't write by
he

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John C Dvorak: sends me clips.
And he sent me a clip of I

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should I should send it to you
and you should put it in the

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show notes. It's a clip of an IT
guy doing an analysis of Taylor

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Swift's lame music. And it's she
uses the same four chords in the

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same progression on almost every
song she does. It's MK Ultra

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Yeah, well I think you've got
your think you might be onto

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something with that.

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Adam Curry: Hey, what does INCOG
Negro not like me? Do I recall

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something that he hated me for
some reason? You're

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John C Dvorak: racist. Oh, that
was it. You're making up for it

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by being buddies with Mo. Mo my

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Adam Curry: friend is happens to
be black. I get to say that

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friend,

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John C Dvorak: I have a friend
who's black

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Adam Curry: who happens to be
black. You gotta say.

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John C Dvorak: Right, I gotta
get the wording.

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Adam Curry: I gotta get it
right. Gotta get it right. So

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John C Dvorak: let's go to NTD I
want to play this. This is the

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Israeli Israeli Jake Sullivan
NTD.

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Unknown: This is in di D
National Security Adviser Jake

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Sullivan is in Israel to
reaffirm us support.

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He's meeting with top officials
pushing to move to war into its

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next phase. The US wants more
intelligence based raids and

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precise targeting of Hamas
leadership.

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We are now in the middle of a
high intensity phase with

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ongoing ground operations
military operations. Hold on a

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second. Is this our war?

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John C Dvorak: Gig Exactly?

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Adam Curry: What's going on
here? Oh, send Jaken Hey, man,

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we want we want it done
differently. You're not killing

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right.

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John C Dvorak: So so if you
listen to that carefully, and it

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reiterates in the next half of
this clip, he says we Yes, we as

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if it's our USA, our war. It's
not a weak situation. But he

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says we as though it's we was
the second half of this.

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Unknown: We are now in the
middle of a high intensity phase

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with ongoing ground operations
military operations in both the

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northern half and the southern
half of Gaza. But there will be

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a transition to another phase of
this war one that is focused in

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more precise ways on targeting
the leadership and

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Sullivan today also met with
Israeli President Isaac Hertzog

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and Tel Aviv. The two discussed
efforts to secure the release of

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the hostages held in Gaza.

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Adam Curry: Now I don't like any
of this. What uh, what are we

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doing?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, what are we
doing? Meanwhile, just as a

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little man, interesting kind of
in the side, which got me off

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the track into what I'm
thinking, which is this clip.

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Hamas operatives in the EU?
Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah.

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Unknown: I know. Also today, two
suspected Hamas members arrived

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at a federal court in Germany.
German authorities transported

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them using a helicopter. They're
accused of planning attacks on

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Jewish institutions in Europe.

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authorities arrested three men
in Germany yesterday.

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Prosecutors allege they were
tasked with finding a previously

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set up underground Hamas weapons
cache in Europe,

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the weapons were allegedly due
to be taken to Berlin. There

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they be kept in a state of
readiness for potential

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terrorist attacks.

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Another suspected to mass
operative was arrested in the

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Dutch city of Rotterdam. And
also yesterday, three alleged

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terrorists were arrested in
Denmark in a separate case.

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Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Well, this
is this is come do. Yeah. Yes. I

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mean, this this is Oh, boy. This
is unexpected.

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John C Dvorak: This is a as
phony as ISIS and Al Qaeda. And

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it's actually brought together
of all places. My clever N has a

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show on the weekends. And he
brings in Alan Dershowitz. Two

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of them outline kind of what I
think is I don't know what

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agency who's doing this. It's
obvious to me now that Dersch

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Dersch isn't she's an asset is
an asset he's in a you can tell

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because he's at. I can discuss
this, if, maybe later on how

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much you can write as you get
older. He's 85. And he's just

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finished his second book. I was

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Adam Curry: writing too much,
but it's a giveaway And it's a

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giveaway it

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John C Dvorak: says like the guy
who did the Steve Jobs biography

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the head of the Aspen Institute
at the time Eisenberg Isaacson

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Isaacson that guy. Yeah. Are my
favorite example is

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Adam Curry: he just did the Elon
Musk book too. Yeah, he's

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John C Dvorak: cranking these
books out who's doing these

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books? Well, somebody's doing
the books I've done big books. I

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know what it takes to do big
books is nothing you can just

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crank out like that with

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Adam Curry: the books and I
cannot lie yes to books

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John C Dvorak: and I cannot lie.
Let's go with this, too. Let's

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start with the Hamas Levin and
Dersch part one

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Unknown: to protect Jewish
students on college campuses to

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daily treat that a beat the
drums about what's taking place

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in this country. Every time they
mentioned when they do mention

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anti semitism they feel the need
to mention

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Adam Curry: I gotta mention
something. Levin's voice the

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older he gets, his voice is less
powerful. It's frail. In my

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agree, you know what I mean?
It's he doesn't he? He's missing

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worry about that for myself. Oh,
powerful voice now you're

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sounding good. Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: he's becoming
frail. Don't worry. I can't say

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borrower.

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Adam Curry: Don't worry. I'll
put the balls on you on my end,

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John C Dvorak: put the balls on

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Unknown: me. Islamophobia. There
is no Islamophobia in America,

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as I've said before,
Islamophobia is in the Middle

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East Salama for Muslims are
slaughtering Muslims that's not

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going on in this country. And
Muslims are not running to their

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dorms rooms and locking
themselves in, or the lunch

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rooms or the attics. They're not
afraid to go to class, and so

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forth and so on. And I could go
on and on and on. But why should

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I want to have a guest like Alan
Dershowitz here? What do you

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make of all this? Well, you're
100%. Right. This is an attack

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against the world. We just
learned that now. Hamas is

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expanding its scope and and
wants to attack Jewish entities

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in Europe. It's coming to a
theater near you. If Hamas has

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not stopped in the Middle East,
it will spread all over the

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world. It will start with Jewish
institutions as it often does.

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But it will spread to Christian
institutions, it will spread to

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other institutions. And we'll be
in a global war with Hamas as we

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were with ISIS and Al Qaeda. And
we must do to Hamas with the

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American troops under Roosevelt
and under Churchill did to Japan

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and Germany bombed total
unconditional surrender. Total

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War total defeat. We must wipe
out Hamas and people say you

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can't wipe out an ideology.
Nonsense. We wiped out Nazism.

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Adam Curry: Oh, what a gem. This
is good. Oh, yeah. So what

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they're gonna be shooting up
churches? Is that what I'm

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understanding from dirt? Yeah.

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John C Dvorak: All right, any
minute

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Adam Curry: I have Bring it on.

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John C Dvorak: Now we know that
Hezbollah is a huge, highly

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funded operation. Hamas are a
bunch of to bid jerk offs in

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Palestine.

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Adam Curry: They say Javed
Sheikh JV team, they'll be

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funny.

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John C Dvorak: And so we have
but now all of a sudden they're

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the same in the same league as
Al Qaeda, a creation of our CIA.

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Yes, our or ISIS, the creation
of the Obama administration and

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Israel possibly and but they're
not going to take on and

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Pakistan and pica so there's so
these these operate this now

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Hamas is going to become this
somehow. And we heard from that

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other clip that they're already
being arrested left and right in

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in Europe, in Europe. Yeah.
Okay. So here we go. Now we're

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gonna hear the, it gets better.

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Adam Curry: Sorry. Wait,

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John C Dvorak: I just got to, I
have to give a disclaimer. I

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think this next clip is, is over
time. And I'm sorry about that.

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But it's too good.

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Adam Curry: I forgive you say
so. Okay, Professor

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Unknown: Dershowitz. I'd like
your opinion. We keep hearing

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about the Palestinian civilians
that they don't want any of

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this. There's two surveys done
in the last three and a half

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weeks. One is by the Arab world
for research and development.

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That doesn't sound like a an
American Jewish front group to

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me, and it's not and what did
they write? Taken as a whole the

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results indicate that an
overwhelming percent of

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Palestinians support the October
7 massacre 75% Reject

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coexistence with Israel 86% are
committed to the restoration of

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historical Palestine which means
the elimination of Israel as a

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final solution. 71% they support
the creation of a Palestinian

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state from the river to the sea,
the annihilation of Israel 75%

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as the end of the Israeli
Palestinian conflict, these are

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Palestinians who were surveyed
in Gaza. in Judea and Samaria,

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they said the Palestinian
positive perception of terror

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organizations remains high.
Despite the role in carrying out

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the massacre and disastrous
results. 76 believed that Hamas

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plays a somewhat the very
positive role. 84% believe that

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the Palestinian Islamic Jihad
plays a summit a very positive

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role. 80% believe that Fatah's
terror when they are Aqsa

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martyrs, brigades plays a
somewhat a very positive role.

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And 88.6% believe that Hamas is
armed wing, the Al Hassan

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brigades plays a somewhat a very
positive function. So why did

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the media keep telling us
there's this tremendous

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distinction, this great distance
between Hamas and other

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terrorist groups? And the people
who elect them and support them?

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Why did they keep telling us
that you were allowed to lie, we

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know that not only do the vast
majority of people in Gaza, and

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on the Westbank support the
Hamas atrocities in Gaza, many

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of them helped it. Remember when
Hamas broke through the fence

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and start killing Israelis.
Gazan civilians followed them.

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They participated in the rapes,
the beheadings, the murders,

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Gaza, balls, help them by having
tunnels under their homes, by

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having command centers by having
rockets being fired from schools

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and from mosques. So look, we
all have to be sympathetic to

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the babies and the children who
are used as human shields, by

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the way by Hamas, and every
single one of these babies who

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were killed is the
responsibility of Hamas. But I'm

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far less sympathetic to the
adults who aggressively support

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Hamas. You know, if they were in
America, they'd be tried for

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crimes because you can't, under
American law, provide material

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support for a terrorist group.
And these Gazans are providing

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material support for Hamas,
which is a terrorist group.

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Adam Curry: Alright, so I'm, I'm
obviously on board with your

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with your thesis, it's a long
standing no agenda thesis. Do

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you think that this is intended
just to create a state of fear a

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is a tension strategy amongst
the United States and and

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Western Europe?

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John C Dvorak: Well, I think, as
well, as this continues, I have

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maybe history more clips. Add to
this. So it's a known fact, at

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least has been a known fact. And
as discussed in some forums here

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and there, that there's 1.4
trillion cubic feet of gas,

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right under Gaza. There's one
point or it's over 3 billion

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barrels of oil right off the
coast at Gaza. They are they

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have I think that this was a
deal where they decided some

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time ago, they're going to let
them develop this the they cut

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Gaza loose, there's not an
occupied territory, the Israelis

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left it and left it to the to
the Palestinians to develop and

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do their own thing, and then
maybe do some split deals, maybe

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who knows what, but that was
going to be a developed oil

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field and gas field. And they
bet they dropped the ball, they

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didn't do their job, and now
they're going to be rousted out

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of Gaza, they're just going to
get rid of all the Palestinians,

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let's put shit like this in
disgust, the fact that the

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Palestinians are bad people,
which is what you just heard in

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that clip, and who cares what
happens to them, and we're going

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to hear more and more of this
kind of thing. It's going to be

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slanted that way. So we can get
to those gas and oil wells, when

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in fact, we have to always
remember a couple of things that

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in the background is that Biden
and the Democrats are phonies.

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And the Democrats in particular
is like the string people along

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like they've done with the black
population in this country and

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promising him stuff and they're
doing with the

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environmentalists, as the Biden
administration has more has done

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more for the oil business than
Trump ever would do. It just

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look at the price of Exxon stock
from the day that Biden got in

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we are pumping more oil than
ever before the whole Burisma

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things and oil thing everything
Why is when people say why the

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crude oil prices they haven't
done anything with this Middle

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East action they usually go up
no they have gone down because

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we are going to pump more oil
out of this area. This is about

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oil we're going to rouse these
Palestinians their hell with

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them. Get them out of there if
you they won't pump the oil

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because you're too stupid. We'll
do it John cedars bore access

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Eva today.

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Adam Curry: It's been a while
been a while. Well, this

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explains why they can't bomb
them. We can't really bomb it.

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That wouldn't be no good. And
that may also explain why these

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Hamas guys are in Qatar. They
know a bit about gas and oil.

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Yep.

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John C Dvorak: Hmm. Okay. Yep,
perfect. Qatar probably has

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dropped the ball in his deal to
somebody dropped the ball

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somewhere. Because this, these
oil fields are known, especially

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the gas, the gas field
underneath the Gaza itself,

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let's go to clip three. And

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Unknown: as I say, it's coming
to America, it's coming to

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Europe, Hamas is not going to
stop. If it prevails in the

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Middle East, it's going to
continue just the way al Qaeda

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and other groups have continuous
we have to stop it in the

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interests of America. And

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Adam Curry: when I say bomber I
mean like big bombs, like mother

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of all bombs, like bombs to
exterminate. No,

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John C Dvorak: you can't do
that. You can't do that. You

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just got to rouse them, you got
to clear them. And here's the

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clip for and

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Unknown: Israel should be a
bipartisan issue. All sides

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should support Israel without
regard to what parties they

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belong to. And there's been a
rise in popularity of Hamas in

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the United States as well. On
October 8, the day after these

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horrors that occurred on
September 7, students at Harvard

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supported Hamas, the National
Lawyers Guild supported Hamas. I

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document all of this. I wrote a
book right after the events that

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question I started writing it on
October 7, World War against the

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Jews. And in it, I document how
increased support for Hamas

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occurred among the hard left,
the hard left has become the

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enemy of justice, of decency of
academia. And we have to

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continue our fight not only
against Hamas, but against Hamas

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supporters in the United States
that can become easily a fifth

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00:51:27,330 --> 00:51:32,580
column. Remember, in the 1970s,
the weatherman started blowing

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up universities trying to blow
up Fort Dix, that's going to

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happen here. We have a fifth
column of hard left Hamas

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supporters, many of them Muslim,
many of them not Muslim, many of

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them hard left, kids are
friends, children are marching

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with Hamas. And that's why it's
so dangerous to Americans and to

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the world and why we have to
fight back idiotically, we have

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00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,990
a combination on our college
campuses and beyond of an

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Islamist and a Marxist ideology,
because they both support the

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same thing the destruction of
the Enlightenment, the

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destruction of Western culture,
and that and they are genocidal

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your book the war against the
Jews how to end Hamas barbarism.

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Let me tell you what's
fascinating about your book,

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among other things, how you
wrote it as quickly as it did

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how you got to publish as
quickly as you did. And it's not

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only question it's up to date on
everything that's going on in

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this country, which is why I
wanted to have you on you can

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get this on amazon.com Any major
bookstore

900
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:37,020
Adam Curry: Wow. So he bang that
out in two months and

901
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:39,300
John C Dvorak: published and
anyone who's ever been in the

902
00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:44,700
publishing business knows now
No, no, that's that's not even

903
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:50,970
close to being possible. Okay,
saying that out and has edited

904
00:52:50,970 --> 00:52:56,220
copy edited design types of
everything published in in 60

905
00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:59,970
days. Now the other thing which
is just a little sidelight here,

906
00:52:59,970 --> 00:53:03,150
which I'm starting to notice and
you start thinking about this is

907
00:53:03,150 --> 00:53:06,480
just an oil play. And you start
looking back at all the

908
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,330
complaining all the this fear
mongering about all this

909
00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:12,390
southern border, Hamas is coming
up the southern border, no

910
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:15,060
Hamas? No, they, you know,
they've gone from this to bid

911
00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:21,900
operation in Gaza, to this world
threat overnight, and we just

912
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:24,930
lap it up. And both sides,
especially the right the right

913
00:53:24,930 --> 00:53:28,440
wingers lack this stuff. Yep.
But here's the thing that's been

914
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,890
going on because I caught two of
these and I have one of them. I

915
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:38,820
clipped one of them. And this is
the Kubo version I the first one

916
00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:41,460
I heard which I didn't clip
which was on the Piers Morgan

917
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:44,220
show. And one of his
correspondents was pretty much

918
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:48,780
saying what Cuomo is saying here
about they're starting to show

919
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,830
sin tapes of the atrocities.

920
00:53:53,070 --> 00:53:55,620
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah. No, I'm,

921
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,890
John C Dvorak: I'm very
concerned about this. Because of

922
00:53:58,890 --> 00:54:05,430
the, of the Wag the Dog idea.
Show is day one. It's

923
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:07,830
Adam Curry: not an idea. It's a
plan. Two

924
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:11,010
John C Dvorak: and a half months
after the event. Two and a half

925
00:54:11,010 --> 00:54:15,210
months is a lot of time to do
whatever you want to do. You can

926
00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:16,950
you can fake a moon landing.

927
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,400
Adam Curry: Two and a half
months now you're talking.

928
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:22,200
Welcome to the dark

929
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,120
John C Dvorak: side. I live in
New York. So you put up with

930
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:30,930
these clips. So let's let's
listen to Hamas Cuomo,

931
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:32,370
Revelation. Today

932
00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:36,360
Unknown: has been a heavy day
around here. Why? Well, many of

933
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,070
us have seen portions of video
of the October 7 massacre. What

934
00:54:41,070 --> 00:54:44,550
Hamas terrorists did, mostly to
innocent Israel,

935
00:54:44,580 --> 00:54:46,920
Adam Curry: is he going to
mention that that this was what

936
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,390
the IDF compiled and they showed
it to the international news

937
00:54:51,390 --> 00:54:55,920
media in a theater for 45
minutes they showed that and

938
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,980
this is an you know, I'm really
starting to think you're onto

939
00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:02,220
something here because The thing
that I noticed immediately it's

940
00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:08,610
all body cam. It's all first
person shooter like stuff. It's

941
00:55:08,610 --> 00:55:11,790
all it's all, you know, which is
easy to intermingle with, with,

942
00:55:11,850 --> 00:55:13,230
with game footage.

943
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:16,890
Unknown: But there are things
that you have not seen because

944
00:55:16,890 --> 00:55:21,090
they were never posted or made
public. And the reality of them

945
00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:23,730
hits hard.

946
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:27,000
Adam Curry: Oh, tell me, he saw
the chopping off baby's heads

947
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:32,250
Unknown: very hard. I know,
because I was shown a good

948
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:37,530
amount of it today. 47 minutes.
That's worth it. That's a lot of

949
00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:41,820
one type of terror footage. And
I now understand something that

950
00:55:41,820 --> 00:55:46,470
Hamas was doing and that Israel
is responding to, that I did not

951
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:53,280
fully appreciate before. Now, I
still think you should see what

952
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,420
I saw. But to be honest, the
shock of today is a little

953
00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:02,610
fresh. And I'm not as adamant
about that, as I was before I

954
00:56:02,610 --> 00:56:07,650
went to the viewing. So I'll try
to convey what hit me about it.

955
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:11,670
And at some point, it's always
better if you get to see and

956
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:14,910
decide for yourself. All right.
But what I'm going to talk to

957
00:56:14,910 --> 00:56:20,310
you about is going to inform why
Israel is not anxious to agree

958
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:23,940
to what seems obvious to many,
including the United States, its

959
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:29,310
most powerful, influential ally,
the bombing has to stop and

960
00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:32,700
before the end of the year,
that's what President Biden is

961
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:37,770
saying suggesting deadlines and
clearly criticizing Israel's

962
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,240
tactics. And it is raising a
question Could the United States

963
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:45,780
withdraw support from its main
ally in the Middle East?

964
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,520
Adam Curry: I'm always surprised
how we as humans can put

965
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:59,070
different levels of of death
into like this is worst death

966
00:56:59,070 --> 00:57:02,820
and that death Yes, I know. We
know where the with the bomb

967
00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:06,690
someone to death or chop their
head off to death or burn them

968
00:57:06,690 --> 00:57:12,270
to death. It's death. Now it's
just it's it's death. It's it's,

969
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:17,460
it's not cool, no matter what.
But this is where we work on the

970
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:21,120
psyche of people. And the 47
minutes, I believe is the entire

971
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,920
idea of Compendium,

972
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:25,380
John C Dvorak: I think it is.
But you don't even know if it's

973
00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:28,170
the same one because they're
showing it again to certain

974
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,870
certain select journalists.

975
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,750
Adam Curry: I mean, is this any
different from anything we've

976
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:37,230
already seen on telegram? Is it
all of that stuff? I

977
00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:39,660
John C Dvorak: don't know. I
haven't I have no idea. All I

978
00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:43,020
know is that we're that this
whole thing looks like we're

979
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:47,940
being played and we're being
paid by both sides. And the oil

980
00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:51,300
companies are somehow involved
and the middle that's all I can

981
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:56,790
conclude Yeah. And and they're
good at it and these protests

982
00:57:56,790 --> 00:58:00,240
you have to wonder what's really
triggering those whose is it

983
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,830
environmental groups is is

984
00:58:03,420 --> 00:58:05,850
Adam Curry: now you're into my
territory? Well, I

985
00:58:05,850 --> 00:58:08,010
John C Dvorak: have some some
protests. There's protest. I

986
00:58:08,010 --> 00:58:11,970
have protests clips from South
Africa. They're protesting in

987
00:58:11,970 --> 00:58:16,920
Pakistan. They're they're
protesting everywhere for no

988
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,940
reason. Allow me to why are they
protesting this? This fellas

989
00:58:20,940 --> 00:58:24,450
Danian situation in South
Africa. Allow

990
00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:28,260
Adam Curry: me to start with
some political protests. As we

991
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:33,930
saw the trade unions in America
come together the UAE w the

992
00:58:33,930 --> 00:58:38,010
United Auto Workers who had a
very successful strike I would

993
00:58:38,010 --> 00:58:40,950
say against the car
manufacturers.

994
00:58:41,250 --> 00:58:45,120
John C Dvorak: And yeah, if you
want to lose your job, and the

995
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:50,730
Adam Curry: UAE w the United
electrical workers, and they had

996
00:58:50,730 --> 00:58:51,540
their statement,

997
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:55,470
Unknown: the world seen enough
slaughter and devastation.

998
00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:59,040
John C Dvorak: Wait a second. I
just want to stop you there. The

999
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,710
white workers did at that day
you electrical workers are the

1000
00:59:01,710 --> 00:59:04,470
IBEW Who are these guys?

1001
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:07,530
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
said. I see you ew. Let me say

1002
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:16,170
you w maybe let's make sure I'm
right. You ew. You told me was

1003
00:59:16,170 --> 00:59:29,310
the UW W. University of
Education when a Toba no maybe I

1004
00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:33,330
should add union I'm just doing
book of knowledge here. Let's

1005
00:59:33,330 --> 00:59:40,020
see you Aw. Oh, it's
interesting. doesn't even exist

1006
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:46,530
at the video literally had you
ew. And said United electrical

1007
00:59:46,530 --> 00:59:47,130
workers.

1008
00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:50,160
John C Dvorak: Your I don't know
such. Yeah, it was actually a

1009
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,700
short met for a very short time
was a member of the IBEW and

1010
00:59:53,700 --> 00:59:57,090
that's a very famous huge union
for electrical workers.

1011
00:59:58,110 --> 01:00:00,630
Adam Curry: United electrical
radio machine Workers that's

1012
01:00:00,630 --> 01:00:02,460
what that's what you're talking
about right?

1013
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,330
John C Dvorak: With the IBEW
International Brotherhood of

1014
01:00:06,330 --> 01:00:08,250
Electrical organise electricians
out here

1015
01:00:08,250 --> 01:00:14,280
Adam Curry: I have united
electrical. That's the UAE? I

1016
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,760
don't know, I'll have to go. But
it was it was this clip is from

1017
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:21,090
Turkish Radio Television. So
take it with that grain of salt.

1018
01:00:21,090 --> 01:00:24,930
But these are union people who
are in America. I'm pretty sure

1019
01:00:24,930 --> 01:00:26,700
that's correct. The world

1020
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:31,230
Unknown: seen enough slaughter
and devastation. These is the

1021
01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:33,270
only path forward. This

1022
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:35,730
is the time for workers to
leverage our labor power and

1023
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,940
electoral power sustained an
uncompromising solidarity with

1024
01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:41,130
the cost of Palestinian freedom.
While we

1025
01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:46,800
call for a ceasefire. We also
condemn anti semitism,

1026
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:54,180
Islamophobia, anti Arab racism,
all of which are growing in our

1027
01:00:54,180 --> 01:00:57,090
nation at this moment and must
be stopped. Right?

1028
01:00:57,150 --> 01:01:02,400
The right wing government is
taking the lasting trauma of

1029
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,360
Israeli Jews from the Holocaust
as great as using it to

1030
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,830
traumatize generations of
Palestinians. Trauma will

1031
01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:15,510
inevitably result in the new
generation of resistance sack

1032
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:17,700
the patient. We can't accept
that. Now. That

1033
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:19,920
Adam Curry: guy sounds like a
union worker. I like that guy.

1034
01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:23,610
John C Dvorak: That guy was
good. Yeah, he does. So

1035
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:26,670
Adam Curry: that but union
workers, we know that we know

1036
01:01:26,670 --> 01:01:29,760
who backs them. This is all
political. This one though, was

1037
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,550
kind of surprising. This is the
Google employees.

1038
01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:36,270
Unknown: I am here in opposition
to Israel's system of apartheid

1039
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,800
that curtails Palestinian rights
and ends Palestinian lives, a

1040
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,190
system that my employer
materially supports through its

1041
01:01:44,190 --> 01:01:47,910
involvement with Project Nimbus,
drop the project.

1042
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:02,310
Adam Curry: So that was big, it
was a very big protest at

1043
01:02:02,310 --> 01:02:07,260
Google. And they're protesting
project Nimbus, which I looked

1044
01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:11,370
up, which is a cloud computing
project of the Israeli

1045
01:02:11,370 --> 01:02:16,980
government. This is what Google
does. They do cloud computing.

1046
01:02:17,610 --> 01:02:21,090
Yet. That's the basic thing.
Yeah, they're basically saying,

1047
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:25,560
don't do business for Israel,
which I found to be quite

1048
01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:29,310
surprising, then we have and
then you know, after these two,

1049
01:02:29,310 --> 01:02:29,640
which is

1050
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,920
John C Dvorak: weird, because
Israel is also we should always

1051
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,330
remember that Israel is a tech
hub for the United States. It's

1052
01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:39,510
one of our development areas,
especially in Haifa. Oh, yeah.

1053
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,730
It's I mean, Intel, I'd say most
of their processors or every

1054
01:02:44,730 --> 01:02:48,810
other processors designed from
Israel In Israel. Good point

1055
01:02:48,810 --> 01:02:52,200
Adam Curry: have we're gonna ban
Intel machines due to Intel

1056
01:02:52,200 --> 01:03:00,060
outside watch. Now, hey,
Netanyahu, he's this is this is

1057
01:03:00,060 --> 01:03:03,870
very political. He's got all the
protests happening in his front

1058
01:03:03,870 --> 01:03:04,320
yard.

1059
01:03:04,530 --> 01:03:07,260
Unknown: Israel's military says
that has accidentally killed

1060
01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:11,340
three of the hostages kidnapped
by Hamas during its October 7

1061
01:03:11,340 --> 01:03:14,610
terror attacks. The three
Israelis were reportedly shot

1062
01:03:14,610 --> 01:03:18,690
after being mistaking as the
threat by soldiers pursuing

1063
01:03:18,750 --> 01:03:22,380
Palestinian militants in Gaza
City. the loved ones of those

1064
01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:24,870
kidnapped are demanding
immediate return of the

1065
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:28,980
remaining hostages, and say
their safety must be prioritized

1066
01:03:29,010 --> 01:03:30,210
over the fighting.

1067
01:03:32,940 --> 01:03:37,020
News of the hostage killings
galvanized demonstrators in Tel

1068
01:03:37,020 --> 01:03:41,760
Aviv. roads were blocked as
hundreds demanded the safe

1069
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,960
return of those still in Gaza.
10 weeks after they were

1070
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,850
kidnapped. Much of the anger
directed at Israel's Prime

1071
01:03:50,850 --> 01:03:53,040
Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu

1072
01:03:55,020 --> 01:03:58,200
will say that he went he's
responsible for everything that

1073
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,970
is happening, that happened and
anything happening. He has

1074
01:04:02,970 --> 01:04:07,770
blocked a lot of blood on an
issue to resign. Now, there

1075
01:04:07,770 --> 01:04:09,870
Adam Curry: you go. They're
calling for his head. He must

1076
01:04:09,870 --> 01:04:14,160
resign. It's all his fault, and
he has a response. His response

1077
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,050
is a giant clock. Israeli

1078
01:04:16,050 --> 01:04:18,570
Unknown: Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu said that the

1079
01:04:18,570 --> 01:04:22,530
relentless bombing campaign
could help push them off back to

1080
01:04:22,530 --> 01:04:26,160
the negotiating table, a
possibility he revealed as the

1081
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,360
head of the Israeli spy agency
has been in talks with the Prime

1082
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,590
Minister of Qatar.

1083
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,940
Adam Curry: Without the military
pressure, we would not have been

1084
01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:39,960
able to create a deal to release
more than 100 hostages and only

1085
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,410
further military pressure will
lead to the return of all of our

1086
01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:44,130
hostages.

1087
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,580
Unknown: Netanyahu said the
accidental killings of three

1088
01:04:47,580 --> 01:04:51,540
Israeli hostages by the
military, even as they had been

1089
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:55,260
waving a white flag broke his
heart and the nation's hearts.

1090
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,520
But he committed to the military
campaign in Gaza until he said

1091
01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:03,780
Hamas Ross was dismantled in Tel
Aviv as the large clock

1092
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:07,380
continues to count the seconds.
Since the hostages were taken by

1093
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:11,070
Hamas on October 7, families
turned up the heat on the

1094
01:05:11,070 --> 01:05:15,300
government to get hostage talks
back on track. And a senior

1095
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:19,410
member of Hamas weighed in
saying the three hostage deaths

1096
01:05:19,410 --> 01:05:22,920
at the hands of the Israeli
military proved Israel's

1097
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,240
campaign was a strategic and
technical failure. I

1098
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,930
tell those Israeli prisoners
relatives who set a clock in Tel

1099
01:05:30,930 --> 01:05:34,530
Aviv counting the time until
their loved ones come back. This

1100
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:38,160
clock of yours could go forever.
If the Israeli one want the

1101
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,310
hostages and the prisoners to
come back alive, this won't

1102
01:05:41,310 --> 01:05:44,760
happen unless there is a
complete cessation of Israeli

1103
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:45,360
aggression.

1104
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,200
Adam Curry: There you go. Big
clock. Big clock that'll

1105
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,990
John C Dvorak: show you. She
brought up the hostages that

1106
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:57,000
were shot. I have this funny
clip from our tea. Only a few of

1107
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,660
these outlets, I would say
democracy now RT and the others

1108
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:06,750
discussed the details of these
guys getting a shot. This clip

1109
01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:08,220
as hostages shot

1110
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,520
Adam Curry: seems clear enough
reported

1111
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,490
Unknown: details from the ideas
investigation have sparked a

1112
01:06:14,490 --> 01:06:18,570
wave of discontent in Tel Aviv
with new intensity. They say

1113
01:06:18,570 --> 01:06:21,450
that the hostages who were
killed were actually waving a

1114
01:06:21,450 --> 01:06:25,860
makeshift white flag. In the
later comments. The IDF was

1115
01:06:25,860 --> 01:06:29,370
quoted as saying that Hamas
militants have previously used

1116
01:06:29,370 --> 01:06:33,300
white flags to the Israeli
soldiers into ambushes. But one

1117
01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:36,840
of the killed hostages was
reportedly shouting for help in

1118
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:41,010
Hebrew, right before he was shot
dead. The IDF spokesman or

1119
01:06:41,010 --> 01:06:44,730
spokesperson says that the army
identified them as a threat.

1120
01:06:44,910 --> 01:06:47,940
While Israel's Army Chief of
General Staff stated that the

1121
01:06:47,940 --> 01:06:49,650
troops are responsible.

1122
01:06:50,970 --> 01:06:54,870
Now, firing at the hostages was
against the Army's instructions

1123
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:57,540
for opening fire. It is
prohibited to shoot at people

1124
01:06:57,540 --> 01:07:00,120
holding a white flag and
attempting to surrender. But the

1125
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,790
shooting was done during
fighting and under pressure.

1126
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:08,280
The patience of the relatives of
the families of the hostages are

1127
01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:13,110
ending they demand the Israeli
government now to do more. And

1128
01:07:13,110 --> 01:07:16,860
they are saying that Israeli
prime minister and his war

1129
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:20,550
cabinet are not committed
enough. And it is not their

1130
01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:26,910
first priority to bring back the
hostages about 130 Israeli field

1131
01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:30,030
the captivity of the terrorists
have cameras, and some of them

1132
01:07:30,030 --> 01:07:35,670
are elderly, women, children and
their relatives of those sons,

1133
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:38,070
the Jets. You know,

1134
01:07:38,310 --> 01:07:42,240
Adam Curry: cut that off. Let me
just say one thing, your

1135
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:47,040
assertion here about the oil and
gas I would have said yeah,

1136
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,610
maybe because you know there's a
lot offshore Lebanon, we know

1137
01:07:50,610 --> 01:07:53,460
about the Leviathan field we
know that Israel had a beer but

1138
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:56,730
that's north now. I know. Bear
with me. I'm with the I'm

1139
01:07:56,730 --> 01:07:59,520
agreeing with you. The reason
why I think you're really onto

1140
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,560
something is because you and and
Horowitz you track these prices

1141
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,890
and everything we've seen in the
past when there was a Middle

1142
01:08:07,890 --> 01:08:13,110
East skirmish, oil prices go up?
And it's just not the case.

1143
01:08:13,710 --> 01:08:16,860
John C Dvorak: That's going
down. Yes. So actually going way

1144
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:17,100
down,

1145
01:08:17,130 --> 01:08:20,250
Adam Curry: that means that
there is knowledge, there is

1146
01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:23,490
knowledge that this is all for
good. And how much longer do

1147
01:08:23,490 --> 01:08:26,250
they have to bomb before this?
Just nobody left? I don't think

1148
01:08:26,250 --> 01:08:28,170
it can be that much longer. No,

1149
01:08:28,350 --> 01:08:30,840
John C Dvorak: this is the tough
part. But I'm gonna go back to

1150
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,470
that clip I just played. So in
other reports that these guys

1151
01:08:34,500 --> 01:08:40,290
came out shirtless, waving a
white flag. And now and then the

1152
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:42,360
report in that article was
interesting, because they said,

1153
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,970
well, that white flight doesn't
mean that much because they've

1154
01:08:44,970 --> 01:08:48,840
been they've been ambushed
numerous times by Hamas guys

1155
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:52,350
waving a white flag and then
they get ambushed. Isn't that a

1156
01:08:52,350 --> 01:08:56,370
war crime? Isn't that a war
crime? And the other thing is

1157
01:08:56,370 --> 01:09:00,450
that walking around in civilian
without even having uniforms

1158
01:09:00,450 --> 01:09:04,320
just as a military group amongst
civilians pretending to be

1159
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,540
civilians, isn't that a war
crime? I

1160
01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:08,220
Adam Curry: love rules of war
that

1161
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,849
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
they always bring it up that

1162
01:09:11,849 --> 01:09:15,059
this this is a war crime. That's
a war crime. This is a war but

1163
01:09:15,059 --> 01:09:18,599
they never bring this stuff up
when it comes to Hamas. They

1164
01:09:18,599 --> 01:09:21,539
never said that committing war
crimes. Who was that? They

1165
01:09:21,539 --> 01:09:26,039
talked about? massacres a
massacre who's they who's they?

1166
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:30,179
The mainstream media? Oh, okay.
And in fact, I would say there

1167
01:09:30,179 --> 01:09:33,179
are T rushing media which is
part of the mainstream media

1168
01:09:33,179 --> 01:09:37,379
Adam Curry: my opinion this
makes no sense. So the media

1169
01:09:37,409 --> 01:09:40,559
which we know is run by Jews,
they're not bringing that up.

1170
01:09:41,219 --> 01:09:41,729
Just the

1171
01:09:41,730 --> 01:09:44,100
John C Dvorak: media's yeah the
joke is is what what kind of

1172
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:45,720
Jews are running the media

1173
01:09:45,750 --> 01:09:47,040
Adam Curry: if they're not
bringing it up?

1174
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,400
John C Dvorak: There's a bunch
of this is there's too many

1175
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:55,650
anomalies it's it's rife. And so
I'm more every time and it these

1176
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,880
these contradictory issues, like
not saying you know, we can't

1177
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,760
get confirm it. But we can't we
will confirm this, we won't

1178
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,080
confirm that the everything is
stinks to high heaven. We're

1179
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,760
Adam Curry: also missing a lot
of key elements of, of

1180
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,800
traditional war crimes. We're
missing the Captagon. What is

1181
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,870
it? What is the what is the
cheap meth drug? We haven't had,

1182
01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:25,080
we haven't had Hamas taken that
we haven't had them taking

1183
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:28,860
Viagra to rape. We're missing
some key elements that are

1184
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:32,010
typical for this type of
operation. So this is different.

1185
01:10:34,710 --> 01:10:38,430
John C Dvorak: Now that we're
going to talk about gas fields,

1186
01:10:39,150 --> 01:10:42,510
who are the people that will be
vying for control of these gas

1187
01:10:42,510 --> 01:10:47,490
fields? And that's I think, is
boo who's behind who's who's

1188
01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:50,850
behind the protests. He's left
wing protests. I think Russia

1189
01:10:50,850 --> 01:10:54,750
has got something to do with
this. Because Putin just did

1190
01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:58,020
his. And I'm gonna say that for
this reason, this is just a this

1191
01:10:58,020 --> 01:11:01,500
is a stretch, and I can't prove
a word of it of a supposition

1192
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:05,970
like this. But Putin just did
his 10 and 10 hour long is

1193
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:14,280
classic press Show, none of this
came up. That I know of. And it

1194
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:17,850
it just seems that this is
something he could Scheid people

1195
01:11:17,850 --> 01:11:20,670
will all you know, they're just
after the oil and gas. I think

1196
01:11:20,670 --> 01:11:23,730
they've got a lot to do with
this. And all these Palestinian

1197
01:11:23,730 --> 01:11:26,880
protests in United States here
and everybody falling in line,

1198
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,780
and all these flags who's making
these flags? I mean, the whole

1199
01:11:30,780 --> 01:11:34,620
thing is, is if just if that's
true, it stinks. If

1200
01:11:34,620 --> 01:11:38,160
Adam Curry: that's true, if
that's true, me as part of the

1201
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,510
end times and revelation, if
Russia is literally involved in

1202
01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:47,790
this, that's bad. That's really
bad. That's the one thing you

1203
01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:50,250
don't want to see. Is Russia
being involved in this one?

1204
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:59,430
John C Dvorak: This biblical is
the gas of 1.4 trillion cubic

1205
01:11:59,430 --> 01:12:05,790
feet of natural gas under Gaza,
not in the ocean, the Royals in

1206
01:12:05,790 --> 01:12:08,880
the ocean, the gases right
there. Can

1207
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,160
Adam Curry: you side drill? Do
you need to have do you need to

1208
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,220
go straight down? Can't you just
sit on the sidelines and drill

1209
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:15,060
from the side?

1210
01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:19,530
John C Dvorak: There's, there's,
there's a bunch of international

1211
01:12:19,530 --> 01:12:20,430
law about that.

1212
01:12:20,730 --> 01:12:23,340
Adam Curry: Oh, we're back to
law. By the way.

1213
01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:28,560
John C Dvorak: These these, this
1.4 trillion cubic feet. This is

1214
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,370
why this thing has been dragging
on so long. It was in 2000 that

1215
01:12:32,370 --> 01:12:38,220
two wells drilled by British Gas
discovered the there's a reserve

1216
01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:41,520
of 1.4 trillion cubic feet of
natural gas under there.

1217
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,850
Adam Curry: All right, well, so
this would be the reason why we

1218
01:12:47,850 --> 01:12:53,040
need to kill carefully,
carefully, let's slow down is

1219
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,500
John C Dvorak: to rush them.
They started at the north. And

1220
01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:57,810
so you gotta get out of here and
they moved because there's

1221
01:12:57,810 --> 01:13:00,900
tunnels. You gotta go gotta get
it out of there. Because the

1222
01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:04,050
tunnels there's all this all
these command centers under the

1223
01:13:04,050 --> 01:13:07,500
hospitals get out. So they moved
him south and they start bombing

1224
01:13:07,530 --> 01:13:10,320
they're trying to get them out.
And they're trying to get Egypt

1225
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,080
to accept them each it's got to
be part of this deal.

1226
01:13:13,230 --> 01:13:15,510
Adam Curry: Well, but they're
not Egypt has it has the border

1227
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:17,400
closed and deload Egypt has

1228
01:13:17,490 --> 01:13:19,680
John C Dvorak: said no, we got
nothing to do with this right.

1229
01:13:19,710 --> 01:13:22,200
But that the public at large
doesn't know what the hell's

1230
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,850
going on. This whole thing
stinks. Wow.

1231
01:13:29,130 --> 01:13:32,700
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I
think you've covered it.

1232
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:36,630
John C Dvorak: No, maybe I think
you have I think I think I do

1233
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:39,930
want to play one more this these
clips from South Africa. I just

1234
01:13:39,930 --> 01:13:46,620
think that too funny. Okay. Is
Israeli South Africa protests.

1235
01:13:46,740 --> 01:13:49,920
Unknown: And in South Africa
reconciliation day has taken on

1236
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,760
a new form as hundreds they're
also gathered for a pro

1237
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,900
Palestine March, knowing
firsthand what genocide and

1238
01:13:57,900 --> 01:14:02,190
forced displacement looks like.
local journalists. katlego Sami

1239
01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:04,170
told us more on this in this
report.

1240
01:14:04,770 --> 01:14:07,320
Adam Curry: Well, this doesn't
make much sense in if Russia is

1241
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,250
in on it.

1242
01:14:10,110 --> 01:14:13,800
John C Dvorak: I believe me none
of it makes sense. But I'm just

1243
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,590
That's why I can't prove
anything about the Russians. But

1244
01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:19,440
this this idea that this is this
is part of the fine I'm not

1245
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:23,220
mistaken. This wasn't South
Africa pop up first populated by

1246
01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:27,240
the Afrikaners out of Holland
and there was nothing there

1247
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,920
except a few band twos there was
really no force there was no

1248
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,180
genocide or forced evacuations
back in the whenever that year

1249
01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:39,420
Adam Curry: was irrelevant
colonialism. That's what it is

1250
01:14:39,420 --> 01:14:40,740
colonialism and so

1251
01:14:40,740 --> 01:14:43,440
John C Dvorak: they just got it
so we were lying a new history

1252
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,680
is we're managing to do with
these with these protests and,

1253
01:14:46,860 --> 01:14:51,750
and South Africa. protesting
about Palestine is ludicrous,

1254
01:14:51,780 --> 01:14:55,710
but okay, if I don't really want
to play anymore the clip Oh

1255
01:14:55,710 --> 01:14:57,570
goodness. You're done mad,

1256
01:14:57,630 --> 01:15:00,090
Adam Curry: you're mad. All
right. Well, then let's You

1257
01:15:00,090 --> 01:15:04,470
bring it stateside for a moment.
Because we are ratcheting up

1258
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:10,080
tension. We are and it's all
political. Obviously. We just

1259
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:16,350
had the Obama connected movie
about the cyber attack. The

1260
01:15:16,350 --> 01:15:21,630
hackers were all going to die
throwing some racial stuff. But

1261
01:15:21,630 --> 01:15:26,130
now the M five M is coming out
with a new one. Because we of

1262
01:15:26,130 --> 01:15:31,110
course now need to talk about
civil war. And I can I can tell

1263
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:37,110
you that there's not going to be
a civil war in America just

1264
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:40,440
isn't. Do you have any feeling
there's going to be an all out

1265
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:44,010
Civil War I've ever ever
consider that that there's even

1266
01:15:44,010 --> 01:15:45,450
an inkling of that happening.

1267
01:15:46,050 --> 01:15:49,650
John C Dvorak: No, that's it's
obvious talking point from the

1268
01:15:50,130 --> 01:15:54,540
from the mainstream and Fox
talking heads that have to talk

1269
01:15:54,540 --> 01:15:57,120
about something and this is
pretty exciting. And I'm

1270
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,200
Adam Curry: going to add to
that. One of the info Mavericks,

1271
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:06,630
the new M five M I'm calling Tim
Poole out is that so there's a

1272
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:08,700
new movie, you might have seen
the trailer it's called

1273
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:11,340
John C Dvorak: Civil War he has
called Civil War. I've seen the

1274
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:12,810
trailer Yes. 15

1275
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,810
Adam Curry: states secede from
the Union and create an army and

1276
01:16:15,810 --> 01:16:18,870
they go to And funny enough,
it's Texas and California.

1277
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:19,620
Because now of course,

1278
01:16:19,650 --> 01:16:24,150
John C Dvorak: yeah, we love it.
In fact, I think I think that's

1279
01:16:24,150 --> 01:16:30,000
the code that is not even within
the realm of possibilities now,

1280
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,500
but do you do that as as a wink
wink, nudge nudge to the people

1281
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,710
that are laughing up their
sleeves about this movie? Yes.

1282
01:16:37,740 --> 01:16:40,290
Adam Curry: But Tim Poole is all
in on it. And he's a part of it.

1283
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:40,530
It's

1284
01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:43,020
Unknown: the moment you've all
been waiting for news.

1285
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah. They're
playing it Tim Poole clip I

1286
01:16:47,580 --> 01:16:51,480
Adam Curry: am because he's part
of this new info Maverick

1287
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:55,680
elites. He's a part of it. And
he's proud of it hates

1288
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,860
Unknown: the moment you've all
been waiting for news dropped,

1289
01:16:58,860 --> 01:17:03,840
the new film is coming out in
2024. Called civil war. And what

1290
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,620
is it about? Oh, man, you better
believe I'm excited. It is a

1291
01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:11,070
film about a civil war in the
United States. And I gotta say,

1292
01:17:11,070 --> 01:17:15,540
based on the trailer, I'm gonna
go man, it is funny that this

1293
01:17:15,540 --> 01:17:17,460
trailer drops and I get all
these people tweeting at me

1294
01:17:17,460 --> 01:17:21,540
being like Tim Poole, what do
you think? Yo, let me start by

1295
01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:25,200
saying this. The reason the
movie exists has nothing to do

1296
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:29,430
with me. The reason I talk about
Civil War is the same reason

1297
01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:32,400
someone made a movie about it.
It's the same reason Stephen

1298
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,030
Marsh wrote a book about it.
It's the same reason why

1299
01:17:36,030 --> 01:17:40,980
numerous news outlets have
written the same thing. We're

1300
01:17:40,980 --> 01:17:45,000
all looking at an ever expanding
culture war, division among

1301
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,720
states, and many people
advocating for national divorce,

1302
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:53,970
including elected members of
Congress. So you may watch my

1303
01:17:53,970 --> 01:17:57,930
show. And think Tim Poole talks
about this a lot. But I gotta be

1304
01:17:57,930 --> 01:18:01,620
honest, I probably talk about it
less than many in the corporate

1305
01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:04,920
press. As a large brand. Several
of these new news outlets have

1306
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,740
way more articles about civil
war than videos I produce. I'm a

1307
01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:11,490
single, I'm a single person. But
if you only watch my show, or

1308
01:18:11,490 --> 01:18:14,460
you mostly watch it, you'll see
stories about Civil War pop up

1309
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:18,120
or the conversation happen.
Somebody invested a lot of money

1310
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,020
into making a movie about Civil
War, why it's on the American

1311
01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:25,980
mind. It's in the media, no
books, it's coming from the

1312
01:18:25,980 --> 01:18:30,480
mouths of Princeton professors.
And that resulted in me saying

1313
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:35,730
Hey, guys, I think this might be
right. Bullshit. Get

1314
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,990
Adam Curry: out of town. Can

1315
01:18:36,990 --> 01:18:39,480
John C Dvorak: I mention
something he did it Cuomo does

1316
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:43,620
to bromo did it he just did it?
Where you ask a question and

1317
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:45,510
throw the word why Yeah.

1318
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,830
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, they
all do that. They all do

1319
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:52,410
John C Dvorak: your you say
well, do you what do you think

1320
01:18:52,410 --> 01:18:54,780
this is a why? You know, you
should make a statement as to

1321
01:18:54,780 --> 01:18:58,740
why and you say why? And then
you answer the question you ask

1322
01:18:58,770 --> 01:19:02,820
yourself. You may lame.

1323
01:19:03,390 --> 01:19:09,870
Adam Curry: I like you may only
watch my show. Come on. That was

1324
01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:10,170
good.

1325
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,000
John C Dvorak: I like that.
Well, he's he knows how to

1326
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,350
promote Well, yeah. Sound Do

1327
01:19:16,350 --> 01:19:17,460
Adam Curry: you like his sound?

1328
01:19:18,030 --> 01:19:20,220
John C Dvorak: I do. I think it
has a certain clarity. It's not

1329
01:19:20,220 --> 01:19:24,210
like your sound. But I think
he's got it. I think his sound

1330
01:19:24,210 --> 01:19:28,590
is heathen. I really like his
sound. I think he's got a nice

1331
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,020
sound for his voice. I think it
I should say

1332
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,870
Adam Curry: I Yeah, you didn't
have to say it at all. Really?

1333
01:19:37,470 --> 01:19:39,570
John C Dvorak: I didn't. You're
right. completely

1334
01:19:39,570 --> 01:19:40,920
Adam Curry: unnecessary. Reflect
up

1335
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,470
John C Dvorak: on that play the
clip. Do you deserve it?

1336
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:48,240
Adam Curry: But this is this is
what's not good for anybody.

1337
01:19:48,420 --> 01:19:53,970
This is the new the new
mainstream is starting to show

1338
01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:59,340
itself. And it's like Twitter
talking. It's led you know where

1339
01:19:59,340 --> 01:20:03,540
the the The old mainstream has
New York Times and The New

1340
01:20:03,540 --> 01:20:10,410
mainstream the has Elon Musk
basically and whatever he wants

1341
01:20:10,410 --> 01:20:15,000
to have happen on x and n it
there's a lot it's dumb there's

1342
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,550
a lot of Dominus flooding
through and people are thinking

1343
01:20:17,550 --> 01:20:20,730
this is great freedom of speech
these people they know what

1344
01:20:20,730 --> 01:20:26,070
they're talking about yes of a
war no no no no you're being

1345
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:30,630
played here at Temple may not be
not not a conscious participant

1346
01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:35,250
probably. But it's just this
it's wrong

1347
01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:40,020
John C Dvorak: lot of these guys
are getting a memo and you know

1348
01:20:40,020 --> 01:20:43,950
okay do this do that. Oh no, no
like the script. Get a script

1349
01:20:43,950 --> 01:20:48,150
kiddies are the kiddies but I
think the script readers on the

1350
01:20:48,150 --> 01:20:49,440
mainstream it's

1351
01:20:49,650 --> 01:20:51,810
Adam Curry: you know, I'm gonna
go back and say it again with

1352
01:20:51,810 --> 01:20:55,470
the New York Times was doing and
still does four mainstream M

1353
01:20:55,470 --> 01:21:02,670
five M That's what x and Musk is
doing for this new these info

1354
01:21:02,670 --> 01:21:09,570
mavericks and it's not healthy.
And I'm and we have to we have

1355
01:21:09,570 --> 01:21:13,560
to go against we got to call
them out, man. Call them out.

1356
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:19,890
Gotta call them out. We got to
do a meanwhile, I will say that

1357
01:21:19,890 --> 01:21:23,310
the best news that came off of x
which of course we've got all

1358
01:21:23,310 --> 01:21:27,360
the videos on x for this one.
This is just mind boggling.

1359
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:30,480
Unknown: You attend the United
States Senate is being rocked by

1360
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:34,890
a sec scandal. US Capitol Police
are investigating after a sex

1361
01:21:34,890 --> 01:21:38,880
tape surfaced online. It showed
two men engaged in sex acts

1362
01:21:38,910 --> 01:21:43,500
inside room 216 of the hair
Senate office building that's a

1363
01:21:43,500 --> 01:21:47,070
famous hearing room where US
senators have grilled high

1364
01:21:47,490 --> 01:21:49,800
profile presidential nominees.
By the way.

1365
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:52,440
Adam Curry: I like your script
very funny. Grilled very funny

1366
01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:53,970
with senators have grilled high

1367
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,900
Unknown: profile presidential
nominees, including Supreme

1368
01:21:57,900 --> 01:22:01,170
Court justices. It's unclear if
the tape will be considered

1369
01:22:01,170 --> 01:22:05,670
criminal conduct but it may have
violated Senate ethics rules.

1370
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,040
Adam Curry: I mean, this was
disgusting. And they just posted

1371
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:17,190
everywhere. What is what is
going on? Does this happen?

1372
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,000
John C Dvorak: It's just the
funniest thing I've seen for a

1373
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:29,310
while. And it is disgusting. And
the one guy looks identifiable.

1374
01:22:29,370 --> 01:22:32,280
Adam Curry: Oh no, we everyone
knows who he is. He's he's known

1375
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:32,700
now.

1376
01:22:33,180 --> 01:22:34,860
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, who
is he? Oh, I

1377
01:22:34,890 --> 01:22:37,020
Adam Curry: haven't even I
didn't even write it down. Are

1378
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:40,890
you kidding me? Kidding me? I'm
not gonna write that down. He's

1379
01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:44,040
and they know who's is from a
Democrat senators office. He's a

1380
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:49,440
staffer. There's another picture
of him on whatever gay sex

1381
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:54,450
website and he's naked in what
he calls the work showers with

1382
01:22:54,450 --> 01:22:57,630
his butt in the air and he says
I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham

1383
01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:06,660
so I don't know if this is some
this is some very deep op that

1384
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:07,860
something

1385
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:09,780
John C Dvorak: going on? We
don't know what it is. We'll

1386
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:14,430
figure it out if it continues
because these things are not not

1387
01:23:14,430 --> 01:23:15,570
that complicated.

1388
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,730
Adam Curry: So me what you were
talking about Taylor Swift. I

1389
01:23:17,730 --> 01:23:23,190
hate to say it but now back to
real. Taylor Swift the OP

1390
01:23:23,190 --> 01:23:24,180
continues

1391
01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:27,780
Unknown: a resolution
recognizing the year 2023 as the

1392
01:23:27,780 --> 01:23:30,630
Taylor Swift era in
Pennsylvania. Will the

1393
01:23:30,630 --> 01:23:34,380
House agree to the resolution?
House resolutions are not

1394
01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:39,420
legislation and their
consideration should not be a

1395
01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:43,440
function of our government. I
urge a no vote on this

1396
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:47,820
resolution and suggest we get
back to actually governing Thank

1397
01:23:47,820 --> 01:23:48,810
you Madam Speaker.

1398
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:57,570
Members information. House
resolutions are legislation and

1399
01:23:57,570 --> 01:24:01,050
apparently the haters gonna hate
hate hate hate hate.

1400
01:24:01,890 --> 01:24:06,330
So I rise to wish Taylor Swift
and all my birthday twins a very

1401
01:24:06,330 --> 01:24:09,210
happy birthday, especially
representatives mad and in

1402
01:24:09,210 --> 01:24:13,080
major. I know I have had the
best day with you. And I don't

1403
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,020
know how it gets better than
this. Everyone's standing around

1404
01:24:16,020 --> 01:24:19,350
us singing Happy Birthday to
you. This resolution is a love

1405
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:21,840
story. So baby, let's just say
Yes.

1406
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,560
Clerk over core the vote on the
resolution. The yeas are 103,

1407
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,700
the nays are 100.

1408
01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:35,820
Adam Curry: The resolution is
adaptive. Fantastic. fantasise

1409
01:24:35,820 --> 01:24:36,540
Pennsylvania we

1410
01:24:36,540 --> 01:24:39,210
John C Dvorak: should mention
that we spotted the Taylor Swift

1411
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:39,900
up

1412
01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:41,340
Adam Curry: in 2009

1413
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,870
John C Dvorak: or before today,
I do have clips came out of

1414
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:54,420
this. She was being highlighted
as a superstar back in 2008,

1415
01:24:54,420 --> 01:24:54,780
maybe

1416
01:24:54,810 --> 01:24:56,730
Adam Curry: 2008 When we had

1417
01:24:56,730 --> 01:24:59,070
John C Dvorak: some clips of her
you know they they're talking

1418
01:24:59,070 --> 01:25:01,770
about her she's just a He had I
think he's just 17 at the time

1419
01:25:01,830 --> 01:25:05,370
noodle and she's the next big
thing. And she was she was

1420
01:25:05,370 --> 01:25:08,280
talking to the band about
doodling doodling midday to doo

1421
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,160
doo doo. And she was showing
them how to put together songs

1422
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,620
we have the clip somewhere, I
don't know where they where they

1423
01:25:13,620 --> 01:25:14,970
are. And

1424
01:25:15,330 --> 01:25:18,240
Adam Curry: these are music
works. Okay, so I know a little

1425
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,410
bit about how music and the
business works. And her music

1426
01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:25,680
is, but you can't sing but five
of her songs, I'm not talking

1427
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,740
about the Swifties who are all
in and completely mind

1428
01:25:28,740 --> 01:25:33,030
controlled. Because that's what
it is. But these work at a at a

1429
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:36,420
psychological level. As you
mentioned earlier, four chords

1430
01:25:36,450 --> 01:25:41,130
it's I mean, you could these are
all riffs and songs that have

1431
01:25:41,130 --> 01:25:45,810
been done before it's hits. As
long as you repeat a song over

1432
01:25:45,810 --> 01:25:48,600
and over again, it becomes a
hit. That's just how it works.

1433
01:25:48,930 --> 01:25:52,830
As long as as long as it's not
off key and junk. You can make

1434
01:25:52,860 --> 01:25:57,090
anything a hit as long as you
repeat it. And Spotify is algos

1435
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,870
being everything, it's all and
she'll be unleashed. The Op has

1436
01:26:00,870 --> 01:26:04,320
not yet been unleashed. But it
will be and it will be for the

1437
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,750
2024 election. I

1438
01:26:07,140 --> 01:26:10,470
John C Dvorak: was kind of
skeptical that thesis at the at

1439
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:15,000
the start. But after listening
to this guy, discuss your music

1440
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,240
and some other things that are
going on, including your being

1441
01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:21,450
Man of the Year for Time
magazine, I use that term

1442
01:26:21,450 --> 01:26:22,710
because that's what it was
originally.

1443
01:26:23,310 --> 01:26:25,470
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a lot
of people out there saying that

1444
01:26:25,470 --> 01:26:28,860
Taylor Swift is a man, which is
a funny meme. Yeah,

1445
01:26:28,890 --> 01:26:29,700
John C Dvorak: I don't buy

1446
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:34,650
Adam Curry: into it either. And
please don't email me, don't

1447
01:26:34,650 --> 01:26:36,900
email me with your proof finish.

1448
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,670
John C Dvorak: And, but the but
this has been going on for a

1449
01:26:41,670 --> 01:26:48,210
long time. And she has been. And
he has concerts and the vendor

1450
01:26:48,270 --> 01:26:54,300
and then meet up with Jason
Kelsey, or Travis Kelsey. Sorry.

1451
01:26:55,230 --> 01:26:57,300
Adam Curry: From now on, known
as Jason Kelsey.

1452
01:26:57,330 --> 01:26:59,730
John C Dvorak: But he could be
Jason. I think Jason's his

1453
01:26:59,730 --> 01:27:01,500
brother, so that might not work
out.

1454
01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:06,060
Adam Curry: But this is nothing
new artists have been abused for

1455
01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:11,490
political reasons forever.
Forever. And Hillary the last

1456
01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:15,390
kind of attempt was Hillary with
Beyonce and didn't really work.

1457
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,760
John C Dvorak: You know, but and
I don't think this will work

1458
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,930
either. To be honest about it. I
don't think there's many there's

1459
01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:26,040
memes out there that are already
contradicting the possibility

1460
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:29,580
Adam Curry: the fact that Kara
Swisher was all in on Taylor

1461
01:27:29,580 --> 01:27:34,020
Swift tells me it's an OP she's
all jacked about Taylor Swift

1462
01:27:34,050 --> 01:27:34,860
she predicted

1463
01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:37,590
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift
swift to be jacked about she's

1464
01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:39,360
she's a she predicted that

1465
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,970
Adam Curry: Taylor Swift will be
person Time Magazine's Person of

1466
01:27:41,970 --> 01:27:44,280
the Year, which means she was in
on it because

1467
01:27:44,490 --> 01:27:46,380
John C Dvorak: you knew that's
not a prediction you can make

1468
01:27:46,380 --> 01:27:48,480
unless you know that let's face
it because

1469
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:54,150
Adam Curry: Reed Hoffman of
LinkedIn is it LinkedIn or is it

1470
01:27:54,150 --> 01:27:58,020
to force? Salesforce?

1471
01:27:58,890 --> 01:28:01,500
John C Dvorak: No, Reid Hoffman,
I think is LinkedIn. Which I

1472
01:28:01,500 --> 01:28:03,030
thought was sold to Microsoft

1473
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:06,030
Adam Curry: anyway. It's he's
he's a very rich, incredibly

1474
01:28:06,030 --> 01:28:09,030
liberal dude. He owns Time
Magazine. We know how these

1475
01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:13,020
things go. You have a quick
meeting. Here we're gonna make a

1476
01:28:13,020 --> 01:28:15,960
Time Magazine Person of the
Year. Well, let's call into DC.

1477
01:28:17,970 --> 01:28:20,460
John C Dvorak: This whole you'd
also want to put some feeler you

1478
01:28:20,460 --> 01:28:24,690
want to put some test feelers
out there. You have somebody a

1479
01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:28,770
stooge, useful idiot come out
and say, Yeah, I can I predict

1480
01:28:28,770 --> 01:28:31,620
that Taylor Swift will be the
first of the year. There's just

1481
01:28:32,250 --> 01:28:35,730
people don't throw stuff at you
and call you an idiot. Oh,

1482
01:28:35,730 --> 01:28:40,140
that's not a bad idea. Then
okay, we'll go ahead with it. It

1483
01:28:40,140 --> 01:28:42,690
could have been just a test test
marketing.

1484
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:45,510
Adam Curry: Alright, let's go to
some more sigh up because

1485
01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:48,210
there's there's a really fun
seems to be all we talk about.

1486
01:28:48,210 --> 01:28:53,190
Yes, there's a fun one. And this
is and because we just talked

1487
01:28:53,190 --> 01:28:57,240
about him. He's he had time to
leave the shower and go to meet

1488
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,720
the press. Lindsey Graham,
Senator Lindsey Graham of South

1489
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,470
Carolina. And, you know, Trump
had Oh, man. Trump had a

1490
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:07,170
horrible, horrible speech. He
said some horrible, horrible

1491
01:29:07,170 --> 01:29:13,020
things. Actually, before I go to
him, I'll play. Well, mate,

1492
01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:19,740
yeah. Let me play the same. It's
the same topic as CBS Face the

1493
01:29:19,740 --> 01:29:21,660
Nation. Margaret Brennan, with
Chris Coons,

1494
01:29:21,690 --> 01:29:23,790
Unknown: some of your fellow
Democrats, like Bob Menendez

1495
01:29:23,790 --> 01:29:27,660
have said it's shameful and
selling out migrants and asylum

1496
01:29:27,660 --> 01:29:29,490
seekers. Why is he wrong?

1497
01:29:30,210 --> 01:29:33,180
John C Dvorak: I understand
Senator Menendez passion on the

1498
01:29:33,180 --> 01:29:36,840
part of making sure that our
immigration system is safe,

1499
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:41,430
legal and humane. But as I've
often said, in talking about the

1500
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:46,080
campaign for 24, President Biden
needs to be compared not to the

1501
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,800
Almighty, not to a perfect
alternative, but to the actual

1502
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,400
alternative and you just played
for Congressman Gonzalez, the

1503
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,630
stunning, hateful, fascist
rhetoric of former President

1504
01:29:57,630 --> 01:30:00,450
Trump when he's talking about
poisoning the Blood of our

1505
01:30:00,450 --> 01:30:04,500
nation, the former president
would bring in place, not these

1506
01:30:04,530 --> 01:30:09,120
modest changes to asylum policy,
but radical and dramatic changes

1507
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,840
to immigration policy. We need
to take seriously that there is

1508
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,710
a border security crisis. And we
need to take responsible steps

1509
01:30:16,710 --> 01:30:18,240
that reflect our values. Okay,
so

1510
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,660
Adam Curry: this is the OP, the
OP is poisoning the blood of

1511
01:30:21,660 --> 01:30:24,660
Americans. Let's go back with
the previous guests.

1512
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,470
Unknown: I want to bring up
something that we discussed with

1513
01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:32,190
our last guest, which was a
remark from Donald Trump

1514
01:30:32,220 --> 01:30:35,700
yesterday, and I want to play it
here because I know you have

1515
01:30:35,700 --> 01:30:37,500
endorsed Mr. Trump for
president.

1516
01:30:37,950 --> 01:30:40,530
They're poisoning the blood of
our country. That's what they've

1517
01:30:40,530 --> 01:30:44,460
done. They poison mental
institutions and prisons all

1518
01:30:44,460 --> 01:30:47,220
over the world, not just in
South America, not just the

1519
01:30:47,220 --> 01:30:50,490
three or four countries that we
think about. But all over the

1520
01:30:50,490 --> 01:30:55,020
world that coming into our
country, from Africa, from Asia

1521
01:30:55,020 --> 01:30:55,920
all over the world.

1522
01:30:56,490 --> 01:30:59,910
Do you endorse the sentiment
that immigrants are poisoning

1523
01:30:59,910 --> 01:31:01,590
the blood of our country?

1524
01:31:02,310 --> 01:31:05,520
I think immigrants are the
lifeblood of our country. And

1525
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,010
it's important that we have it
the Republican from Texas

1526
01:31:08,010 --> 01:31:11,370
immigrants, I've been a
proponent of legal immigration.

1527
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,620
And what this open border crisis
is don't

1528
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:18,960
John C Dvorak: stop. There is a
we have a process called legal

1529
01:31:18,990 --> 01:31:21,870
immigration. We'll get to that.
So now all of a sudden, he's a

1530
01:31:21,870 --> 01:31:24,120
proponent. Like it's something
new now.

1531
01:31:24,150 --> 01:31:27,150
Adam Curry: Screw these guys.
The point we're still on the

1532
01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:28,380
poisoning the blood

1533
01:31:28,380 --> 01:31:32,130
John C Dvorak: gather. I
Valley's bad boys. Yeah, little

1534
01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:33,510
Adam Curry: boys. And

1535
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:36,570
Unknown: what this open border
crisis is done. It's put legal

1536
01:31:36,570 --> 01:31:40,080
immigrants to the back of the
line. And it's it's encouraged

1537
01:31:40,110 --> 01:31:43,230
illegal immigration, and it's
created this rhetoric, and it's

1538
01:31:43,230 --> 01:31:46,980
created this anger. And it's not
just former President Trump. I

1539
01:31:46,980 --> 01:31:49,860
mean, in my district, people are
angry, Margaret, all throughout

1540
01:31:49,860 --> 01:31:53,370
the country. People are angry
and seeing all this chaos. It's

1541
01:31:53,370 --> 01:31:56,130
why it's so important that the
House, the Senate and the

1542
01:31:56,130 --> 01:31:59,310
president come together and find
a real solution, a national

1543
01:31:59,310 --> 01:32:02,550
security, a national security
package that takes care of our

1544
01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:06,090
allies also protects us at home,
not only from foreign threats,

1545
01:32:06,090 --> 01:32:09,360
but also internal threats,
because the anger is very real.

1546
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:14,730
I realized that we need to
acknowledge it. But that

1547
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:19,830
phrasing poisoning the blood is
reminiscent of language. The

1548
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:22,980
White House says Hitler used
which is why I wanted to get you

1549
01:32:22,980 --> 01:32:25,860
to specifically respond to this.

1550
01:32:25,890 --> 01:32:26,190
Adam Curry: So

1551
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,220
John C Dvorak: yes, so she only
she was she has a script from

1552
01:32:29,220 --> 01:32:31,710
the White House. Is that what
she just told us? Yes.

1553
01:32:31,710 --> 01:32:34,170
Adam Curry: And this is the
headline. The headline

1554
01:32:34,170 --> 01:32:40,440
everywhere is Trump takes Trump
Donald Trump paraphrases Adolf

1555
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:44,460
Hitler by telling rally that
migrants are poisoning the blood

1556
01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:48,660
of our country phrase first
appeared in fewer book mine

1557
01:32:48,660 --> 01:32:53,430
calm. So I got my copy out.

1558
01:32:53,850 --> 01:32:56,520
John C Dvorak: Good of mine.
I'll have copies of mine calm.

1559
01:32:57,540 --> 01:33:00,900
Adam Curry: Everybody should
read. It's like you got to read

1560
01:33:00,900 --> 01:33:02,670
the Unabomber manifesto.

1561
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:04,770
John C Dvorak: You should read
the Bible. You should read mine

1562
01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:06,360
comp. You should read a lot of
books.

1563
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:13,020
Adam Curry: And there is no
phrase poisoning the blood of

1564
01:33:13,020 --> 01:33:16,560
America or Germans. The word
poisoning the

1565
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:20,010
John C Dvorak: blood is what
your poison PDF search. That's

1566
01:33:20,010 --> 01:33:20,520
what I would do.

1567
01:33:20,550 --> 01:33:21,900
Adam Curry: That's what I'm
doing. I'm doing a search I'm

1568
01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:25,500
having right now. Wholesale
poisoning of the public mind

1569
01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:28,980
poisoning of the public mind
poisoning of our sexual blood

1570
01:33:28,980 --> 01:33:32,940
poisoning. I'm sorry, not sexual
blood. What do you say here? Let

1571
01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:38,850
me go back. sexual life
poisoning of the sound instinct

1572
01:33:38,850 --> 01:33:39,210
wasting

1573
01:33:39,210 --> 01:33:41,880
John C Dvorak: of our sexual
life. The hell's he talking

1574
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:42,270
about?

1575
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:43,890
Adam Curry: Well, let me go
back. Let me see what he was

1576
01:33:43,890 --> 01:33:48,000
talking about. These are the
dolphin tragic witnesses to the

1577
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,900
steadily increasing scourge that
is poisoning our sexual Well, in

1578
01:33:51,900 --> 01:33:56,820
Hitler's days. There was a lot
of transgenderism. You know, a

1579
01:33:56,820 --> 01:34:02,970
lot of you know, there are a lot
of gay stuff going that's what

1580
01:34:02,970 --> 01:34:08,700
the what the Cabaret is about.
Yeah, the movie cabaret. Yes. So

1581
01:34:08,910 --> 01:34:12,240
their sufferings are the visible
results of parental vise. So

1582
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,930
he's not saying that they're
poisoning the blood poisoning of

1583
01:34:15,930 --> 01:34:19,350
the sound instincts of our
people poisoning the popular

1584
01:34:19,350 --> 01:34:20,070
mind use

1585
01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:23,070
John C Dvorak: the word
poisoning as though poison is a

1586
01:34:23,070 --> 01:34:27,480
synonymous okay, I get it. So
this so there's really shit is

1587
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:28,680
what you're telling. This is

1588
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,850
Adam Curry: a lie. It's a lie.
It's a lie. And they can look

1589
01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:36,600
how it wasn't that hard for me
to bring up the PDF and do a

1590
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:41,100
little search wasn't hard.
Here's a Good Morning America

1591
01:34:41,130 --> 01:34:43,230
Unknown: overnight, FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP facing

1592
01:34:43,230 --> 01:34:47,670
swift backlash for his attacks
on immigrants. Former President

1593
01:34:47,670 --> 01:34:51,090
Donald Trump campaigning in New
Hampshire sounding as confident

1594
01:34:51,090 --> 01:34:51,600
as ever

1595
01:34:51,630 --> 01:34:54,120
what happened to the bounce? You
know with Nicki, they talked

1596
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,040
about the surge mocking his

1597
01:34:56,040 --> 01:35:00,000
GOP primary opponents who he
called backstabbing, established

1598
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,750
Schmidt losers for trailing in
the polls. His speech peppered

1599
01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:06,900
with personal insults at one
point calling New Hampshire's

1600
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:11,040
popular Republican governor a
quote spoiled brat Governor

1601
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:15,540
Chris Sununu this week endorsing
Nikki Haley, saying she can not

1602
01:35:15,540 --> 01:35:19,680
only win his state, but deliver
a Republican landslide. Beyond

1603
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,280
his rivals. Trump also upped his
attacks on immigrants with

1604
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,880
highly offensive white
nationalist rhetoric, evoking

1605
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:31,080
similar language to Nazi
propaganda about the purity of

1606
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:35,670
this country's, quote, blood.
Everybody first except America,

1607
01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:40,680
Trump's crowd full of fervent
fans. Doesn't Trump have your

1608
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:45,660
vote? Yes. Did you consider any
of the other candidates? Also in

1609
01:35:45,660 --> 01:35:48,660
the state this weekend, Florida
Governor Ron DeSantis, who

1610
01:35:48,660 --> 01:35:51,450
brushed off any idea of joining
a Trump ticket?

1611
01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:53,610
You know, I'd rather be governor
than vice president.

1612
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,850
No question I didn't he thinks
Trump will try to delegitimize

1613
01:35:56,850 --> 01:36:01,830
any results in early still wrong
does not win. If Trump loses

1614
01:36:01,830 --> 01:36:03,060
he will say it's stolen no

1615
01:36:03,060 --> 01:36:05,550
Adam Curry: matter what. Okay.
All right. So there it is. It's

1616
01:36:05,550 --> 01:36:10,050
Nazism. And now everyone who's a
Trump fan can't You can't be a

1617
01:36:10,050 --> 01:36:15,030
supporter. You're a fan. You're
a fan. You're a Nazi. Now we'll

1618
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:18,510
play the bit with the Lindy hat.
Lindy Hop, grey hat. We've got a

1619
01:36:18,570 --> 01:36:20,700
reasonably appropriate response
before

1620
01:36:20,700 --> 01:36:23,700
Unknown: I let you go. I do want
to get your reaction to that

1621
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:26,700
former President Trump said
overnight, he was in New

1622
01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:30,030
Hampshire, he was talking about
the need to keep immigrants out

1623
01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:32,220
of this country. Here's what he
said, I'll get your response.

1624
01:36:32,670 --> 01:36:32,880
They're

1625
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,280
poisoning the blood of our
country. That's what they've

1626
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,860
done. They poison mental
institutions.

1627
01:36:37,890 --> 01:36:39,630
Adam Curry: Now. What do you
think he means? Let's just stop

1628
01:36:39,630 --> 01:36:42,300
for a second. Because he says
this all you have to have to

1629
01:36:42,300 --> 01:36:44,610
listen to the whole Trump thing
says the poisoning the blood of

1630
01:36:44,610 --> 01:36:48,330
our country. They're poisoning
mental institutions. What

1631
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:53,040
exactly is he really talking
about immigrants here? What does

1632
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,660
he mean? Well,

1633
01:36:54,660 --> 01:36:58,260
John C Dvorak: I think and I
think for one thing, he's

1634
01:36:59,430 --> 01:37:04,650
rambling. Yes. And because he
delays the wedding, random till

1635
01:37:04,650 --> 01:37:08,970
institutions, what's he talking
about? I think he's talking

1636
01:37:08,970 --> 01:37:17,340
about immigrants coming in and
kind of upsetting the mechanism

1637
01:37:17,340 --> 01:37:18,030
of state.

1638
01:37:18,060 --> 01:37:20,040
Adam Curry: I think he's just
overloading is what I think he

1639
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:21,480
means. Oh, yeah. Overloading? I

1640
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:23,100
John C Dvorak: think that would
be yes, we're loading

1641
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:23,820
overloading.

1642
01:37:24,180 --> 01:37:28,950
Adam Curry: But no, because the
word is poisoning the blood and

1643
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:31,530
all they're not know your
airways race

1644
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,350
John C Dvorak: and the word
blood, obviously, Nazi

1645
01:37:35,580 --> 01:37:38,220
Adam Curry: Aryan race, white
nationalists to keep

1646
01:37:38,220 --> 01:37:40,080
Unknown: immigrants out of this
country. Here's what he said,

1647
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,820
I'll get your response. They're

1648
01:37:41,820 --> 01:37:44,220
poisoning the blood of our
country. That's what they've

1649
01:37:44,220 --> 01:37:48,120
done. They poisoned mental
institutions and prisons all

1650
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,880
over the world, not just in
South America, not just the

1651
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,180
three or four countries that we
think about. But all over the

1652
01:37:54,180 --> 01:37:58,680
world that coming into our
country from Africa, from Asia

1653
01:37:58,680 --> 01:37:59,580
all over the world.

1654
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:04,110
The Biden campaign has accused
former President Trump of quote,

1655
01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:06,000
parroting Adolf Hitler

1656
01:38:06,030 --> 01:38:08,130
Adam Curry: and interesting
she's said the White House she

1657
01:38:08,130 --> 01:38:11,280
says the Biden campaign, so at
least he's a little more honest

1658
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,070
about it, but it's coming from
the White House.

1659
01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:16,350
Unknown: What is your reaction
are the President's comments,

1660
01:38:16,380 --> 01:38:21,090
representative? Have you and
other Republicans feel 76%

1661
01:38:21,090 --> 01:38:24,450
of the American people, not
Donald Trump bleed the borders

1662
01:38:24,450 --> 01:38:27,750
broken? They're worried about
that. No coming over killing

1663
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:27,900
them.

1664
01:38:27,930 --> 01:38:30,600
But what about his language?
Just that language that

1665
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,190
poisoning the blind? Yeah,

1666
01:38:32,190 --> 01:38:36,600
no. I'm worried about an
outcome. He is right to what he

1667
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,410
had the border secured the
lowest in 40 years in December

1668
01:38:40,410 --> 01:38:43,080
of 2020. To the Biden
administration. You're talking

1669
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,470
about Donald Trump's language as
you sit on the sidelines and

1670
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:50,400
allowed the country to be
invaded. 172 people on the

1671
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,340
terrorist watch list have come
on your watch fentanyl is

1672
01:38:53,340 --> 01:38:55,560
killing Americans, Senator
anytime it

1673
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,480
goes from language just on the
language.

1674
01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:59,160
Adam Curry: Let's get to the
Nazi party.

1675
01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:00,960
Unknown: I want to get your
response you have endorsed

1676
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,390
former President Trump are you
comfortable on

1677
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:06,660
John C Dvorak: top? What show is
this? And who is that woman?

1678
01:39:06,690 --> 01:39:09,750
Adam Curry: This is Kristen
Welker. This is the Welker she's

1679
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:12,600
terrible. The new face to face
depress nation, but

1680
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,510
John C Dvorak: he doesn't
listen. I never thought she she

1681
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:18,210
had her own little show on NBC.
They all have this these test

1682
01:39:18,210 --> 01:39:21,810
shows that Dave people don't
know at NBC as like, Can new

1683
01:39:21,810 --> 01:39:25,050
shows. They're all exactly the
same with the same stories, but

1684
01:39:25,050 --> 01:39:27,690
they're all done by different
people. Tom Yamas has one Yeah,

1685
01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:29,790
but Kristen, welcome. Well,
welcome

1686
01:39:30,330 --> 01:39:34,620
Adam Curry: to the black. She's
more brown.

1687
01:39:34,710 --> 01:39:40,080
John C Dvorak: She's a multi
CultI looking, but she was okay

1688
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,380
reading you know, teleprompter.
She was fine. But this is an

1689
01:39:43,380 --> 01:39:45,510
example of someone who doesn't
listen.

1690
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,560
Adam Curry: Now her job is to
press this sentence. That's what

1691
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:54,540
you hear God says says no good.

1692
01:39:54,570 --> 01:39:56,130
John C Dvorak: I did not think
she was going to be good when

1693
01:39:56,130 --> 01:39:57,660
she took this job. She just

1694
01:39:57,660 --> 01:40:01,530
Adam Curry: wanted specifically
poisoning the blood sure is that

1695
01:40:01,530 --> 01:40:06,300
not in mind calm? Is that not
Nazi talk right there? Is he not

1696
01:40:06,300 --> 01:40:09,240
the reincarnation of Adolf
Hitler himself sir. This is a

1697
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:10,470
senator invaded

1698
01:40:10,650 --> 01:40:14,190
Unknown: 172 people on the
terrorist watch list of come on

1699
01:40:14,190 --> 01:40:15,270
your watch fentanyl is

1700
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:18,960
Adam Curry: killing. Here's this
she's like a cicada since

1701
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:19,890
allowed the country

1702
01:40:19,890 --> 01:40:23,550
Unknown: to be invaded 172
people on the terrorist watch

1703
01:40:23,550 --> 01:40:26,910
lists have come on your watch
fentanyl is killing Americans

1704
01:40:26,910 --> 01:40:27,990
Senator any German

1705
01:40:28,350 --> 01:40:30,780
language just on the language
though I want to get your

1706
01:40:30,780 --> 01:40:33,030
respect you have endorsed former
President Trump. Are you

1707
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:33,750
comfortable? Do

1708
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:37,110
Adam Curry: you endorse a Nazi?
With him using

1709
01:40:37,290 --> 01:40:38,370
Unknown: words like that?

1710
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:43,140
Adam Curry: Man, this is so old.
This is Hello 2015. We're

1711
01:40:43,140 --> 01:40:48,150
Unknown: talking about language.
I could care less what language

1712
01:40:48,150 --> 01:40:52,050
people use as long as we get it
right. Live in legal

1713
01:40:52,050 --> 01:40:56,070
immigration. I have no animosity
toward people trying to come to

1714
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:59,130
our country. I have animosity
against terrorists and against

1715
01:40:59,130 --> 01:41:02,040
drug dealers. But I understand
why people want to come to

1716
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,030
America, but we have chaos. And
we need to create order if you

1717
01:41:06,030 --> 01:41:09,030
think you're going to win the
debate on illegal immigration.

1718
01:41:09,210 --> 01:41:12,630
But picking a line out of the
Trump speech. Most Americans

1719
01:41:12,630 --> 01:41:16,380
understand the game has to
change that we're under threat

1720
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,650
that we're gonna get attacked,
that our borders completely been

1721
01:41:19,650 --> 01:41:23,070
obliterated. So if you're
talking about the language Trump

1722
01:41:23,070 --> 01:41:26,370
uses rather than trying to fix
it, that's a losing strategy for

1723
01:41:26,370 --> 01:41:27,810
the Biden administration. Now

1724
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,320
Adam Curry: I have the Wow, he's
good.

1725
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:35,850
John C Dvorak: Let's face it.
Like he did? He's an old pro.

1726
01:41:35,850 --> 01:41:39,000
That is not going to be no he's
not really now the worst and

1727
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,710
Welker, who's an idiot,

1728
01:41:40,740 --> 01:41:47,100
Adam Curry: now it's time for a
shower. Now, I have a minute of

1729
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:50,400
the Trump speech and I have an
issue with his language because

1730
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:54,600
we know what the problem is. The
problem is, this administration

1731
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,780
has told the Department of
Homeland Security, catch and

1732
01:41:57,780 --> 01:42:01,980
release let them go. It's
policy. It is not, I repeat, it

1733
01:42:01,980 --> 01:42:07,740
is not the wall. It is you
doesn't matter how big the wall

1734
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:12,360
is or how high the fence is. If
people can come in and they have

1735
01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:15,720
either an app that says you're
good to go, which is how they're

1736
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:20,580
coming in through airports. Yep.
Or you can get a ride. You just

1737
01:42:20,730 --> 01:42:23,730
wait. There's no way to put an
entire big beautiful wall that

1738
01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:27,810
keeps everybody out. Once you
get in. If if there's no

1739
01:42:27,810 --> 01:42:32,100
repercussion, people will keep
coming. I got a shot. And then

1740
01:42:32,130 --> 01:42:36,720
and of course, our own. Our own
people who now run the

1741
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,260
international office of of
immigration at the United

1742
01:42:40,260 --> 01:42:44,760
Nations are giving the prepaid
debit cards, you got the buses,

1743
01:42:44,970 --> 01:42:47,580
the only you just gotta cross
the Rio Grande that last bit

1744
01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:49,890
you'll get wet. Don't worry
about it. And you can see it

1745
01:42:49,890 --> 01:42:52,380
people are showing up. They've
got clean clothes, everything's

1746
01:42:52,380 --> 01:42:56,430
good to go. Nice. Backpack
backpack, you just gotta get in.

1747
01:42:56,730 --> 01:43:00,180
And once you're in, it's a
policy you're in. You're in is

1748
01:43:00,210 --> 01:43:06,750
it's about parole. It's like the
disco. But Trump, this is I had

1749
01:43:06,750 --> 01:43:09,870
this is my issue with Trump. I
don't understand why he doesn't

1750
01:43:10,350 --> 01:43:13,980
call out what it is. This
actually this this speech,

1751
01:43:14,010 --> 01:43:17,460
because that's, that's the gross
offense here. He's treating

1752
01:43:17,460 --> 01:43:19,080
people like they're morons and

1753
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,110
Unknown: a lot of work to do.
You know, when they let, I think

1754
01:43:22,110 --> 01:43:25,620
the real number is 15 16 million
people into our country. When

1755
01:43:25,620 --> 01:43:29,640
they do that we got a lot of
work to do. They're poisoning

1756
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,430
the blood of our country. That's
what they've done. They poisoned

1757
01:43:32,430 --> 01:43:36,690
mental institutions and prisons
all over the world, not just in

1758
01:43:36,690 --> 01:43:39,450
South America, not just the
three or four countries that we

1759
01:43:39,450 --> 01:43:42,840
think about. But all over the
world that coming into our

1760
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:46,890
country from Africa from Asia
all over the world they're

1761
01:43:46,890 --> 01:43:49,470
pouring into our country
nobody's even looking at him

1762
01:43:49,470 --> 01:43:52,770
they just come in the crime is
going to be tremendous. The

1763
01:43:52,770 --> 01:43:56,160
terrorism is going to be
terrorism is going to be no we

1764
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,500
built a tremendous piece of the
wall and then we're going to

1765
01:43:58,500 --> 01:44:03,630
build more and the election was
rigged and we didn't do it but I

1766
01:44:03,630 --> 01:44:05,850
figured that just throw it up
would have taken three weeks it

1767
01:44:05,850 --> 01:44:09,510
was all built there was already
to be just hoisted up the exact

1768
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:13,380
wall that the Border Patrol who
are incredible Brandon Judd and

1769
01:44:13,380 --> 01:44:17,310
all people Border Patrol. That's
exactly what they designed. They

1770
01:44:17,310 --> 01:44:21,090
had the anti climb bars and
everything. And you know what

1771
01:44:21,090 --> 01:44:24,120
they did? They didn't want it to
go up. They sold it for five

1772
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,910
cents on the dollar. Can you
believe it? All of that stuff?

1773
01:44:27,390 --> 01:44:27,720
Is

1774
01:44:27,780 --> 01:44:28,590
very sad.

1775
01:44:30,090 --> 01:44:32,370
Adam Curry: It's just
irrelevant. That's not the

1776
01:44:32,370 --> 01:44:36,240
problem. People know they can
come because it's you're good to

1777
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,600
go. You're not going to get in
trouble. It's not the wall. No,

1778
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,150
I'm a little sick of that. He
used to change that message.

1779
01:44:42,510 --> 01:44:45,750
Because just as this you know,
come on. They're smarter people.

1780
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,320
John C Dvorak: He dropped a
Mexico's gonna pay for it. Yeah,

1781
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:49,680
that was

1782
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:53,100
Adam Curry: also dumb. That was
a loser. Meanwhile, something we

1783
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:55,920
missed in the National Defense
Authorization Act.

1784
01:44:57,570 --> 01:44:59,670
John C Dvorak: I'm sure there's
more than all

1785
01:44:59,670 --> 01:45:01,680
Adam Curry: coming Now we missed
the big one

1786
01:45:01,710 --> 01:45:04,560
Unknown: Congress approving a
bill preventing any US president

1787
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,770
from withdrawing from NATO,
without approval from the Senate

1788
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,310
or an act of Congress. measures
included in the recently passed

1789
01:45:11,310 --> 01:45:14,850
National Defense Authorization
Act. Democratic Senator Tim

1790
01:45:14,850 --> 01:45:18,300
Kaine and Republican Senator
Marco Rubio spearheaded that

1791
01:45:18,300 --> 01:45:21,660
bill, which marks Congress's
commitment to the NATO alliance.

1792
01:45:21,690 --> 01:45:24,090
Adam Curry: Big miss. Okay,
thanks, Rubio.

1793
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,240
John C Dvorak: Wow, you know
what that tells me? Trump's

1794
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:31,980
gonna be our next president.
Pretty sure part of the overall

1795
01:45:32,190 --> 01:45:36,210
the they're lining stuff up.
Yep. They're just sort hit

1796
01:45:36,210 --> 01:45:38,220
thwart word. The word I want

1797
01:45:38,250 --> 01:45:40,620
Adam Curry: to warn was his, his
motive.

1798
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,700
John C Dvorak: Okay, he's going
to be president. We're going to,

1799
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,730
you know, we're going to see oh,
by the way, I got a note from

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01:45:47,730 --> 01:45:53,700
one of our producers who sent $1
bill with it. Oh, yeah. Taking

1801
01:45:53,700 --> 01:45:57,690
part in my game, which is who's
pick the Vice President? And I

1802
01:45:57,690 --> 01:46:02,970
thought he had a good one. Ben
Carson. No, no, no, I liked the

1803
01:46:02,970 --> 01:46:04,170
idea of Ben Carson.

1804
01:46:04,230 --> 01:46:06,840
Adam Curry: I'm staying with he
was loyal to Trump.

1805
01:46:07,890 --> 01:46:10,800
John C Dvorak: He never quit. He
didn't backstab me didn't write

1806
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,700
a book. He's smart. And he's was
once a presidential candidate

1807
01:46:14,700 --> 01:46:18,090
himself. I like Ben Carson is a
vice VP. He's

1808
01:46:18,090 --> 01:46:21,870
Adam Curry: not even on the
list. yet. I'm sticking with

1809
01:46:21,870 --> 01:46:25,860
Elise. I think she I think
she's, she's nice. Yeah. The

1810
01:46:26,340 --> 01:46:31,290
daughter. Know, though. The only
way I can remember her name from

1811
01:46:31,290 --> 01:46:34,950
New York. No, the one who, who
jealous. Panic. Yeah, the one

1812
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:37,260
who jacked up the university
president. Yeah, she's

1813
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:41,040
John C Dvorak: still she's at,
she's doing good. work,

1814
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,370
Adam Curry: and play. She's in
play. There's another thing is

1815
01:46:44,370 --> 01:46:51,000
kind of a now C span we have one
of our producers, he loyally

1816
01:46:51,150 --> 01:46:55,440
sends in every single between
shows, he sends in C span

1817
01:46:55,440 --> 01:46:56,910
callers. And,

1818
01:46:58,110 --> 01:47:01,170
John C Dvorak: but just to be my
beat, I might add, well,

1819
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,690
Adam Curry: you know, you don't
treat people with kindness. And

1820
01:47:03,690 --> 01:47:07,590
you know, you block them. And,
and they go away. So they come

1821
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:11,220
to me. Of course, they also
think I'm your assistant, your

1822
01:47:11,220 --> 01:47:18,660
intern. Tell John, this. This is
a new conspiracy launched from

1823
01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:22,860
the Democrat line. I love this
conspiracy. Next up,

1824
01:47:22,860 --> 01:47:25,800
Unknown: let's hear from Kathy
and Satellite Beach, Florida. On

1825
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:31,920
our democratic line. Yes, I have
a question about the binder of

1826
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:36,540
raw Russian data that's been
missing since Trump left office.

1827
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:42,870
It's about 10 inches thick, full
of all the raw data that America

1828
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:49,200
has collected on sources and
methods and everything. And the

1829
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:54,120
reason I bring it up is because
I've always wondered why Ivana

1830
01:47:54,150 --> 01:47:58,740
Trump's casket had pin
pallbearers When Princess

1831
01:47:58,740 --> 01:48:05,430
Diana's lead line casket only
had six, I mean, that casket had

1832
01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:09,930
to have been hugely heavy. And
with all the missing boxes of

1833
01:48:10,020 --> 01:48:14,010
secret documents that everybody
keeps talking about, I think

1834
01:48:14,010 --> 01:48:18,240
that they need to go to the golf
course where Trump had her

1835
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:22,680
buried and just take a look say
just out of curiosity, I want to

1836
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:29,310
know where that binder of raw
Russian excuse me information

1837
01:48:29,430 --> 01:48:29,820
went.

1838
01:48:31,140 --> 01:48:35,670
Adam Curry: Okay, Alton, is I
love it, dig her up. Dig her up.

1839
01:48:37,050 --> 01:48:42,000
This is the best Trump buried do
it to eventually you watch. Oh,

1840
01:48:42,210 --> 01:48:46,560
it's coming Trump. This is it
Trump buried the Russian

1841
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,730
documents that show all the
collusion buried it with Ivanka,

1842
01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:58,410
dig her up. Meanwhile, the real
news is this former top

1843
01:48:58,410 --> 01:49:01,560
Unknown: FBI counterintelligence
official faces five years in

1844
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,800
prison after pleading guilty to
working with a Russian oligarch

1845
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:08,190
he wants investigated. Charles
McGonigal admitted he accepted

1846
01:49:08,190 --> 01:49:12,660
more than $17,000 from Oleg
Deripaska mechanical lead the

1847
01:49:12,660 --> 01:49:16,290
FBI is Counterintelligence
division between 2016 and

1848
01:49:16,290 --> 01:49:20,160
2018 $17,000.

1849
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:24,840
John C Dvorak: Are you kidding
me? That's nothing. I know. But

1850
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,090
he from an oligarch I know. But
you know,

1851
01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:30,540
Adam Curry: he this guy was a
part of Operation crossfire.

1852
01:49:31,740 --> 01:49:37,710
This guy was a part of it. The
guys who were accusing Trump of

1853
01:49:37,710 --> 01:49:39,930
being in collusion. Yeah.

1854
01:49:39,930 --> 01:49:41,220
John C Dvorak: And he was in
collusion.

1855
01:49:43,410 --> 01:49:45,570
Adam Curry: This guy was
completely in collusion come

1856
01:49:45,570 --> 01:49:45,750
Yeah,

1857
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:47,610
John C Dvorak: even though he's
a bid some people think is

1858
01:49:47,610 --> 01:49:51,390
basically just a Russian spy and
it was 70,000 is a bullshit

1859
01:49:51,390 --> 01:49:52,680
number anyway. I

1860
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:57,180
Adam Curry: mean, that's they
all that's in there, so that we

1861
01:49:57,180 --> 01:50:01,470
don't talk about it. Go away. Go
away News. Hey, dig up, dig her

1862
01:50:01,470 --> 01:50:06,240
up that you watch dig her up.
It's gonna be a chant. Dig her

1863
01:50:06,270 --> 01:50:06,990
pick her

1864
01:50:07,020 --> 01:50:09,090
John C Dvorak: up. Dig her up.

1865
01:50:10,110 --> 01:50:13,860
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. NPR
is very upset that I love this

1866
01:50:13,860 --> 01:50:18,240
lady. I love this lady. She's
very upset about how the media

1867
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,000
is covering Trump. They're not
doing it right. You're doing it

1868
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:26,460
all wrong. This has been a a
theme amongst journalists that

1869
01:50:26,490 --> 01:50:28,800
we're not doing it. We're doing
it all wrong. We're going to

1870
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:29,820
help them win again.

1871
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:35,580
Unknown: I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and
this is a Sunday story. And the

1872
01:50:35,580 --> 01:50:39,690
fourth and final Republican
debate on December 6, Governor

1873
01:50:39,690 --> 01:50:43,920
Chris Christie addressed the
elephant in the room. Him He

1874
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,980
warned Americans of what may
come if Donald Trump gets

1875
01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:48,030
reelected president.

1876
01:50:49,050 --> 01:50:52,740
Let me make it clear. His
conduct is unacceptable. He's

1877
01:50:52,770 --> 01:50:56,370
unfit and be careful what you're
gonna get. If you ever got

1878
01:50:56,370 --> 01:51:00,120
another Donald Trump term, he's
letting you know, I am your

1879
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,180
retribution. You will only be
Elizabeth. He will only be his

1880
01:51:03,180 --> 01:51:06,510
own retribution. He doesn't care
for the American people. It's

1881
01:51:06,510 --> 01:51:07,110
Donald Trump.

1882
01:51:07,110 --> 01:51:10,770
First. How to cover Trump is I
think you're right. I

1883
01:51:10,770 --> 01:51:12,930
Adam Curry: think that was a dig
by saying the elephant in the

1884
01:51:12,930 --> 01:51:16,170
room for Chris Christie. I think
that was one of those intimate

1885
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:18,120
John C Dvorak: journalistic
puns.

1886
01:51:20,670 --> 01:51:22,140
Adam Curry: That shame
attribution.

1887
01:51:22,260 --> 01:51:24,870
Unknown: He doesn't care for the
American people. It's Donald

1888
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:25,140
Trump. By

1889
01:51:25,140 --> 01:51:28,350
John C Dvorak: the way, hold on.
What was the that was the what

1890
01:51:28,350 --> 01:51:30,240
was there? No elephant in the
room.

1891
01:51:30,900 --> 01:51:33,180
Adam Curry: The Trump wasn't
there. That was the elephant in

1892
01:51:33,180 --> 01:51:34,200
the room. Well, that's

1893
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:35,910
John C Dvorak: an elephant not
in the room by

1894
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:37,320
Adam Curry: Yeah. How to

1895
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,020
Unknown: cover Trump is a
question that's haunted the

1896
01:51:40,020 --> 01:51:43,770
media since Trump's surprise
when in 2016 haunted

1897
01:51:43,770 --> 01:51:46,860
Adam Curry: the media, oh, the
media is haunted. We're

1898
01:51:46,860 --> 01:51:50,010
journalists were trained to Jay
school were haunted. We don't

1899
01:51:50,010 --> 01:51:51,780
know how to do it. A

1900
01:51:51,780 --> 01:51:52,980
Unknown: 2018 study

1901
01:51:52,980 --> 01:51:55,530
John C Dvorak: show a lot of
second this stuff. I need to do

1902
01:51:55,530 --> 01:51:58,950
this. So no, I love it. I love
it when you do but it just seems

1903
01:51:58,950 --> 01:52:04,860
to me that this is like a rebuke
of journalism. Why should it be

1904
01:52:04,860 --> 01:52:08,430
haunted about anything that
reporters are supposed to report

1905
01:52:08,430 --> 01:52:13,140
the news not not be in the news
and the news and that's you

1906
01:52:13,170 --> 01:52:16,740
shouldn't be haunted by the
results of their reporting.

1907
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:19,860
Adam Curry: Perhaps you should
take another J school course and

1908
01:52:19,860 --> 01:52:21,810
see what they're teaching these
journalists should

1909
01:52:21,810 --> 01:52:23,820
John C Dvorak: they're teaching
something I'm unfamiliar with

1910
01:52:23,940 --> 01:52:24,060
how

1911
01:52:24,060 --> 01:52:26,940
Unknown: to cover Trump is a
question that's haunted the

1912
01:52:26,940 --> 01:52:31,440
media since Trump's surprise
when in 2016 surprise when a

1913
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:35,970
2018 study showed that Trump
received around $2 billion in

1914
01:52:35,970 --> 01:52:40,290
free media we got substantially
more coverage than his opponents

1915
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:44,790
aiming his campaign. Now Trump
is dominating headlines again as

1916
01:52:44,790 --> 01:52:48,900
he faces federal indictments and
civil lawsuits while campaigning

1917
01:52:48,900 --> 01:52:49,980
at the same time,

1918
01:52:50,220 --> 01:52:52,410
Adam Curry: making every This
isn't by the way, this is a

1919
01:52:52,410 --> 01:52:57,270
great edit. I did not do this,
but they pan left and right with

1920
01:52:57,270 --> 01:53:00,000
all of his crazy talk. I'm
making

1921
01:53:00,030 --> 01:53:04,590
Unknown: every executive branch
employee fireable by the

1922
01:53:04,590 --> 01:53:08,700
President, as I said, I will
keep men out of women's sports

1923
01:53:08,700 --> 01:53:12,540
and I will sign a law
prohibiting child sexual

1924
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:18,120
mutilation we will root out the
communist Marxist fascist and

1925
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,870
the radical left thugs that
lives like vermin within the

1926
01:53:21,870 --> 01:53:25,740
confines of our country will
carry out the largest domestic

1927
01:53:25,740 --> 01:53:28,380
deportation operation in
American history.

1928
01:53:30,210 --> 01:53:34,020
My other job is host of Weekend
Edition Sunday, I did an

1929
01:53:34,020 --> 01:53:39,840
interview recently, that really
made me think about Trump and

1930
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,420
how we cover him as journalist.

1931
01:53:43,230 --> 01:53:46,620
Adam Curry: I want to share as
journalist, this, you're missing

1932
01:53:46,620 --> 01:53:48,420
it as darling journalist.

1933
01:53:49,230 --> 01:53:51,720
Unknown: I wanted to share it
with you, I spoke with two

1934
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:56,040
people who believe the media is
failing in the way it's

1935
01:53:56,040 --> 01:54:00,540
reporting on Trump and Warren,
these failures put our democracy

1936
01:54:00,540 --> 01:54:01,170
at risk

1937
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:05,400
Adam Curry: a mockery of
democracy, our democracy got

1938
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:09,990
destroyed with the Patriot Act,
lady, here we go associate. This

1939
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:13,530
was a 25 minute program. I just
pulled two other clips. Here's a

1940
01:54:13,530 --> 01:54:16,740
douche who writes for The
Atlantic. And this is his view

1941
01:54:16,770 --> 01:54:19,050
of what we should do. I

1942
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,170
Unknown: I've got a pretty
pessimistic outlook on this

1943
01:54:22,170 --> 01:54:24,600
because I think that what's
happening with Trump is that a

1944
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,540
lot of the things that he's
doing, both in terms of what

1945
01:54:27,540 --> 01:54:30,450
he's posting on truth, social is
social media network. And what

1946
01:54:30,450 --> 01:54:33,330
he's saying at rallies, is not
cutting through to the ordinary

1947
01:54:33,330 --> 01:54:35,640
voter. And that's important
because some of the stuff he's

1948
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,730
saying is the most extreme
rhetoric of any presidential

1949
01:54:38,730 --> 01:54:42,960
candidate in the last four or
five, six decades. So I'll give

1950
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,930
you an example of this. There
was a rally in October where

1951
01:54:45,930 --> 01:54:50,010
Trump floated the idea of
shooting shoplifters on site, so

1952
01:54:50,010 --> 01:54:53,190
anyone who commits a petty crime
as killed it's an extrajudicial

1953
01:54:53,190 --> 01:54:55,410
killing that the leading
contender for the Republican

1954
01:54:55,410 --> 01:54:58,770
nomination floated, and right
after that he floated the idea

1955
01:54:58,770 --> 01:55:02,250
of joking about it I'm Paul
Pelosi being nearly beaten to

1956
01:55:02,250 --> 01:55:05,970
death of a hammer. And there was
no coverage of this for three

1957
01:55:05,970 --> 01:55:08,940
days in the New York Times, at
which point it appeared on page

1958
01:55:08,940 --> 01:55:09,510
14.

1959
01:55:09,540 --> 01:55:11,880
Adam Curry: So here he is
complaining about the broken

1960
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:15,000
elite messaging system, the New
York Times and New York Times is

1961
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:16,080
doing it wrong.

1962
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,780
Unknown: And I think what the
press is doing is it's thinking,

1963
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,200
people know, Trump says crazy
stuff lots of the time. And

1964
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,050
that's fine. But it's still very
important that they see it,

1965
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:27,420
because, you know, there's
another bit of rhetoric he

1966
01:55:27,420 --> 01:55:31,410
recently posted on tweet social,
where he effectively implied

1967
01:55:31,410 --> 01:55:34,050
that the former top general of
United States Mark Milley

1968
01:55:34,050 --> 01:55:37,410
deserve to be executed. And, you
know, that is one of the most

1969
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,290
unbelievable things that a
president could say one of the

1970
01:55:40,290 --> 01:55:43,860
most extreme things. It was not
covered in most of the press.

1971
01:55:43,890 --> 01:55:46,110
And I think that is a real
failing, where we're not

1972
01:55:46,110 --> 01:55:49,860
understanding the scale of the
threat that Trump poses because

1973
01:55:49,860 --> 01:55:52,350
it's been baked in as sort of
what I call the banality and

1974
01:55:52,350 --> 01:55:55,500
crazy that it's so routine that
is not generating headlines,

1975
01:55:55,530 --> 01:55:58,920
Adam Curry: this guy is giving
them the exact wrong advice.

1976
01:55:59,340 --> 01:55:59,670
Yeah, I

1977
01:55:59,670 --> 01:56:02,430
John C Dvorak: agree. He's
saying the opposite of what

1978
01:56:02,430 --> 01:56:05,910
should be done. So now let's go
back to just given Trump

1979
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,750
whatever crazy thing Trump says,
push it. Is this

1980
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:12,360
Adam Curry: is so dumb, okay,
then we have to do shit from The

1981
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,220
Guardian. So I think that

1982
01:56:14,220 --> 01:56:17,460
Unknown: newsroom leaders need
to be and maybe they're doing

1983
01:56:17,460 --> 01:56:19,020
this, you know, maybe some
newsroom

1984
01:56:19,020 --> 01:56:22,530
Adam Curry: leaders, leaders
leader I call the editor isn't

1985
01:56:22,530 --> 01:56:23,670
called the editor or you

1986
01:56:23,670 --> 01:56:24,660
John C Dvorak: I guess, yeah.

1987
01:56:25,650 --> 01:56:26,670
Adam Curry: But must be right.

1988
01:56:27,930 --> 01:56:31,680
Unknown: So I think that
newsroom leaders need to be and

1989
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:33,660
maybe they're doing this, you
know, maybe some of them are

1990
01:56:33,660 --> 01:56:36,990
doing it. And maybe they're
doing it a little. But I think

1991
01:56:36,990 --> 01:56:41,730
they need to get our staffs and
their staffs in general, and

1992
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talk about what I wrote my
column about we we, the public

1993
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is not getting the importance of
this election. They're not

1994
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getting what the stakes and the
consequences are.

1995
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:56,580
Adam Curry: They don't get it.
You're stupid. You don't get it

1996
01:56:56,580 --> 01:56:58,740
people you don't understand you
don't get it. You're not

1997
01:56:58,770 --> 01:57:01,800
listening to us. We've got to
ratchet it up. You don't get it,

1998
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you don't get it.

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Unknown: How can we go about?
How can we go about changing

2000
01:57:06,570 --> 01:57:12,060
that? How can we get across the
extreme nature of this by just

2001
01:57:12,060 --> 01:57:16,800
reporting and you know, it has
to do with emphasis it has to do

2002
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:20,880
with where you put stories, what
kind of articles you do what the

2003
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:25,290
headlines are, but we're still
sort of stuck in an old way of

2004
01:57:25,290 --> 01:57:29,460
covering both sides, trying very
hard to make sure that no one

2005
01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:33,450
ever says that we're partisan
and trying to be partisan. It

2006
01:57:33,450 --> 01:57:38,280
calls for a rethinking in
newsrooms of how to communicate

2007
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,020
to our readers and viewers.

2008
01:57:40,410 --> 01:57:44,640
John C Dvorak: I like to comment
on this. Yes, please. Now,

2009
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:50,010
historically, reporting was
always partisan. Yes. That's why

2010
01:57:50,010 --> 01:57:54,330
you had like a newspaper in
Santa Rosa, the press Democrat.

2011
01:57:55,110 --> 01:57:58,650
There we at the Oakland Tribune
used to be a Republican

2012
01:57:58,650 --> 01:58:02,430
newspaper. There's one up in New
Hampshire that's notoriously a

2013
01:58:02,430 --> 01:58:05,430
Republican or was a notoriously
Republican newsletter, or

2014
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:08,850
newspaper, I'm sorry,
newsletter, newspaper. And these

2015
01:58:08,850 --> 01:58:11,910
newspapers were very partisan.
And they took a perspective and

2016
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:15,390
a point of view. And that's why
journalism schools appeared

2017
01:58:15,390 --> 01:58:18,210
because it was getting to the
point where they somebody

2018
01:58:18,210 --> 01:58:22,650
decided that it's not a good
thing. So they went to, you

2019
01:58:22,650 --> 01:58:25,950
know, teaching people how to do
that. I say, have three people

2020
01:58:25,950 --> 01:58:28,980
quoted, you got to have both
sides of the story. You got to

2021
01:58:28,980 --> 01:58:32,670
do this, scatter that. And it
just naturally gravitates

2022
01:58:32,670 --> 01:58:38,130
because I can find Mastodon
tweets, or tweets, whatever

2023
01:58:38,130 --> 01:58:40,740
they're called, have all kinds
of journalists that have all

2024
01:58:40,770 --> 01:58:43,920
scampered away from Twitter. And
they've gone to their own little

2025
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:47,640
hole hovels, and they're all
talking about you, we can't let

2026
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:51,090
Trump win we have to do this. We
have to do that. And if you

2027
01:58:51,090 --> 01:58:57,930
remember that journos, journos
little room or banner used group

2028
01:58:57,930 --> 01:59:01,170
whatever the hell it was, it was
a meeting me up space we talked

2029
01:59:01,170 --> 01:59:04,050
about on the show back in the
day, where they were the

2030
01:59:04,170 --> 01:59:08,940
Democrat, a journalist would all
get together and grouse. That

2031
01:59:08,940 --> 01:59:12,330
was supposed to be eliminated.
It's it gravitates right back

2032
01:59:12,330 --> 01:59:15,270
toward it. And there is nobody
that's on the Republican side

2033
01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:18,840
except for Fox News. Then there
were not even good Republicans

2034
01:59:19,230 --> 01:59:26,160
Adam Curry: voted on by
Democrats. Yeah, yeah. But it's

2035
01:59:26,190 --> 01:59:29,010
the whole system's broken
doesn't work anymore. People

2036
01:59:29,010 --> 01:59:32,340
like this. They want tick tock.
They want you know, quick hits,

2037
01:59:32,340 --> 01:59:34,050
they want to see this boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

2038
01:59:34,050 --> 01:59:37,410
boom, boom. Now we're all we're
all highly malleable. Give me

2039
01:59:37,410 --> 01:59:42,300
some dopamine. Give me something
and I want to own the libs. I

2040
01:59:42,300 --> 01:59:45,660
want to post the memes. I know I
see it. This is what's

2041
01:59:45,660 --> 01:59:47,640
happening. This is what's
happening. People are out of

2042
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:53,130
control. By the way, there's so
much talk about Trump. You know,

2043
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:57,390
if he is reelected, oh, my
goodness. I mean, that will be

2044
01:59:57,390 --> 02:00:00,930
the end of democracy, the end of
the world. World is no, no, it's

2045
02:00:00,930 --> 02:00:04,620
no democracy, where democracy is
done. Of course, we have a

2046
02:00:04,620 --> 02:00:08,400
republic. And we have a very
interesting system. Yes, we, as

2047
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:10,890
a republic, let's get that
straight. You have a very

2048
02:00:10,890 --> 02:00:14,760
interesting system when it comes
to the presidential election,

2049
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:20,940
which is the electoral college.
And we've discussed this many

2050
02:00:20,940 --> 02:00:24,240
times on the show, I think it's,
but I'll play this clip of Bill

2051
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:28,110
and Hillary Clinton. And then we
should probably just run through

2052
02:00:28,110 --> 02:00:32,220
one more time, what the
electoral college is for why it

2053
02:00:32,220 --> 02:00:36,810
was put in place, and why it is
important. But first, let's

2054
02:00:36,810 --> 02:00:41,100
listen to those bastions of
democracy. Bill and Hillary

2055
02:00:41,100 --> 02:00:44,670
Clinton, you know, it's funny, I
saw them on stage together. This

2056
02:00:44,670 --> 02:00:48,030
is at a Bloomberg conference
about a month and a half ago.

2057
02:00:49,260 --> 02:00:54,150
And it took me it took me like
20 minutes before I remembered,

2058
02:00:54,180 --> 02:00:56,910
oh, yeah, they're married. It
was just like two separate

2059
02:00:56,910 --> 02:01:00,480
people. I don't even connect
them as a couple anymore. It's

2060
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:03,060
very weird. It starts off with
Bill, do you

2061
02:01:03,060 --> 02:01:06,810
Unknown: think direct election
of the President, popular vote

2062
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:09,690
would be preferable to the
Electoral College method, we

2063
02:01:09,690 --> 02:01:14,430
adopted the Electoral College,
when we were 13 states. But it

2064
02:01:14,430 --> 02:01:21,450
also helped to load up the
electoral votes of the southern

2065
02:01:21,450 --> 02:01:26,880
states that had slaves. Now we
know that the effect of the

2066
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:33,870
electoral college is to give
about 36 extra votes to the most

2067
02:01:33,870 --> 02:01:40,710
culturally conservative and for
this dried American states. And

2068
02:01:41,010 --> 02:01:44,190
I have no objection to them
voting, I want them all to vote,

2069
02:01:44,190 --> 02:01:46,860
I would not unlike some of them.
I've never tried to make it

2070
02:01:46,860 --> 02:01:50,160
harder for him to vote, I'd make
it easier for him to vote, a lot

2071
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:53,130
the votes counted, and a
waterfall account, but I just

2072
02:01:53,130 --> 02:01:57,090
don't think you can justify that
today.

2073
02:01:57,210 --> 02:01:59,820
I assume you prefer direct
election as well.

2074
02:02:00,300 --> 02:02:06,480
Adam Curry: Oh, I definitely
prefer. So they're anti

2075
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:10,920
constitutionalists. Yeah. And I
think we should because they did

2076
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:13,710
a very poor job. They said, Oh,
is because you know, the

2077
02:02:13,710 --> 02:02:17,520
Republicans or, you know, the
conservative states. Of course,

2078
02:02:17,550 --> 02:02:21,330
you know, that's switched. But
no, it's the states in the South

2079
02:02:21,330 --> 02:02:23,850
was racist. They had slaves and
they were going to win because

2080
02:02:23,850 --> 02:02:25,890
they counted the slaves. That's
why it was the Electoral

2081
02:02:25,890 --> 02:02:30,570
College. Is that the truth, our
constitutional experts work, I

2082
02:02:30,570 --> 02:02:32,760
John C Dvorak: mean, that you
can make that I think that

2083
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:35,070
argument can be made. But I
don't think that's the real

2084
02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:38,910
argument that recent Electoral
College was put together, it was

2085
02:02:38,910 --> 02:02:43,050
to prevent a big states that
overpopulated states, The New

2086
02:02:43,050 --> 02:02:46,530
York's and counties nobody liked
at the time. And the Phillies

2087
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:50,100
note that New Yorkers were hated
because they were Dutch, I think

2088
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:53,970
is the reason you gotta hate
those guys. And it was the so

2089
02:02:53,970 --> 02:02:57,450
they didn't run roughshod over
the little states like Rhode

2090
02:02:57,450 --> 02:03:01,530
Island and Delaware and Vermont,
and the rest of America. So they

2091
02:03:01,530 --> 02:03:05,520
tried to give him create an even
footing, because it was so eat

2092
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:09,690
because the big states were
corrupt. They had the corrupt

2093
02:03:09,690 --> 02:03:12,180
policies that corrupt
politicians. And the idea was,

2094
02:03:12,180 --> 02:03:14,430
you know, once in a while,
you're gonna get a situation

2095
02:03:14,430 --> 02:03:18,960
where the majority of people are
going to vote for the corrupt

2096
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:21,780
guy, and this will keep that
from from that person from

2097
02:03:21,780 --> 02:03:24,600
getting in office. I Hillary
being the best example that

2098
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:25,740
recently. Yes,

2099
02:03:25,740 --> 02:03:30,060
Adam Curry: and exactly. It was
a an escape hatch in case some

2100
02:03:30,060 --> 02:03:31,980
nut job was about to come to
power.

2101
02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:37,350
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think
that I think that rationale is

2102
02:03:37,350 --> 02:03:41,730
more accurate now than the other
one. And then the other thing

2103
02:03:41,730 --> 02:03:44,970
is, I've written this opinion,
good Divorce Act, that substack

2104
02:03:44,970 --> 02:03:49,440
that come and read my article
about this. I've said that over

2105
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:55,380
time, the Electoral College has
to go, because it advertised

2106
02:03:55,380 --> 02:03:59,490
does not fairly distribute
advertising dollars throughout

2107
02:03:59,490 --> 02:04:03,900
the country. During presidential
elections, the only states to

2108
02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:06,870
get the advertising dollars are
those swing states that are

2109
02:04:06,870 --> 02:04:10,230
going to determine who wins in
the Electoral College. And this

2110
02:04:10,230 --> 02:04:16,290
is unfair to the media outlets
in California and New York,

2111
02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:20,520
don't get any money because
they're gonna vote Democrat. So

2112
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:23,580
why are we going to give them
any money to do advertising? So

2113
02:04:23,580 --> 02:04:26,610
we, in fact, when you're out
here, you see during the

2114
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:30,270
presidential campaigning, you
see nothing no ads, there's like

2115
02:04:30,270 --> 02:04:34,830
breasts like there's not even an
event. And so they so because of

2116
02:04:34,830 --> 02:04:38,610
that, I think that the media
will continue to promote the

2117
02:04:38,610 --> 02:04:44,880
idea of abolishing it. Yes. But
that's a completely that's a

2118
02:04:45,420 --> 02:04:49,500
outlier position that I taken,
and I still believe it. No, I'm

2119
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:52,740
Adam Curry: with you. I like
that explanation. That's why the

2120
02:04:52,740 --> 02:04:53,910
media keeps promoting it.

2121
02:04:55,530 --> 02:04:57,630
John C Dvorak: There otherwise
why would they care? You had a

2122
02:04:57,630 --> 02:05:01,020
Adam Curry: clip this past
veterans They actually was a

2123
02:05:01,020 --> 02:05:06,270
twofer clip. I mean, it was
President Biden speaking on

2124
02:05:06,420 --> 02:05:12,510
Veterans Day. Do you remember
these clips? If I hear him I

2125
02:05:12,510 --> 02:05:16,710
probably would. You'll remember
this one this 44 second clip,

2126
02:05:16,710 --> 02:05:17,580
you'll remember it hit

2127
02:05:17,580 --> 02:05:20,790
Unknown: Biden administration on
Friday announcing three steps to

2128
02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:24,060
improve the life of America's
veterans ahead of Saturday's

2129
02:05:24,060 --> 02:05:28,050
Veterans Day. First is expanding
no cost health care to all

2130
02:05:28,050 --> 02:05:31,680
living World War Two veterans,
eligible vets will be able to

2131
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,740
claim those benefits starting
this month. This includes

2132
02:05:34,740 --> 02:05:38,310
nursing home care, some veterans
who suffer from Parkinson's

2133
02:05:38,310 --> 02:05:41,010
disease will also be eligible
for free health care.

2134
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:45,060
Adam Curry: So this report, and
the President did say that he

2135
02:05:45,060 --> 02:05:50,370
said, we will have free care for
World War Two veterans, there's

2136
02:05:50,370 --> 02:05:55,590
only about 250,000 of them left.
Amazing. It's that many. And we

2137
02:05:55,590 --> 02:05:58,710
got a boots on the ground report
from one of our producers, who

2138
02:05:58,710 --> 02:06:01,620
says a few weeks ago, my family
was excited to hear on your

2139
02:06:01,620 --> 02:06:05,670
show, the President Biden had
announced free nursing home care

2140
02:06:05,670 --> 02:06:10,080
for all World War Two veterans.
My wife's 96 year old

2141
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:13,320
grandfather is a world war two
veteran who landed in Nagasaki

2142
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:16,560
about two weeks after the bomb
dropped. He is currently in a

2143
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:19,890
facility that's not so great.
And we were excited the prospect

2144
02:06:19,890 --> 02:06:24,060
of him moving into better care
despite his limited funds. After

2145
02:06:24,060 --> 02:06:28,290
was put on a waitlist for the
local five star VA facility, I

2146
02:06:28,290 --> 02:06:31,890
decided to do more research.
That's when I found out it's all

2147
02:06:31,890 --> 02:06:36,840
a lie. The VA secretly updated
the announcement to say that

2148
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:41,220
only certain World War Two
veterans were eligible. My

2149
02:06:41,220 --> 02:06:45,390
wife's grandfather is not one of
them. So they indeed they

2150
02:06:45,390 --> 02:06:50,670
updated this to say, update to
the release. nursing home care

2151
02:06:50,670 --> 02:06:55,380
is free for nearly all World War
Two veterans who are eligible

2152
02:06:55,380 --> 02:06:59,610
for nursing home services at VA
including one anyone in need of

2153
02:06:59,610 --> 02:07:04,080
such care for a service
connected disability. And to

2154
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:07,080
anyone in need of such care who
also has a service connected

2155
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:16,500
disability rated at 70% or more.
That is such I mean, that's low

2156
02:07:16,530 --> 02:07:21,330
even for Biden. That's low. I
mean, come on. It's a quarter of

2157
02:07:21,330 --> 02:07:26,370
a million dudes. And you're
going to do that. I thought that

2158
02:07:26,370 --> 02:07:27,360
was just that.

2159
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,600
John C Dvorak: This discussion
broke my heart. It broke my

2160
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:32,670
heart. Well, yeah.

2161
02:07:33,060 --> 02:07:36,900
Adam Curry: And how long? How
long is it gonna be a year? Two

2162
02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:43,530
years. Really? How long is it
gonna last? So I, I just bought

2163
02:07:43,650 --> 02:07:45,600
John C Dvorak: this sort of
thing that we're getting from

2164
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:48,420
these guys. And that's why I
brought it bitched and moaned

2165
02:07:48,420 --> 02:07:51,720
earlier about the fact that
we're pumping more oil than ever

2166
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:54,090
before and making it seem that
Oh, no, no, we're very

2167
02:07:54,090 --> 02:07:59,100
environmentally conscious. Oh,
yeah. Cop 28 Blah, blah, blah.

2168
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:03,270
And then Trump laws right,
justice, blah, blah, blah. And

2169
02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:06,810
so Trump, you know, is wrong.
I'm gonna drill drill drill

2170
02:08:06,810 --> 02:08:11,640
word, that's what we're doing.
But nobody. Democrats are just

2171
02:08:12,180 --> 02:08:13,350
terrible people.

2172
02:08:15,510 --> 02:08:18,330
Adam Curry: It's a terrible
team. I'm not. They may be okay,

2173
02:08:18,330 --> 02:08:22,200
people. They're just in a bad
environment. You gotta You gotta

2174
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:26,040
love them. You can't just dig
her up. That's all I got.

2175
02:08:27,150 --> 02:08:29,010
John C Dvorak: That's what I
mean. That's a good example.

2176
02:08:30,630 --> 02:08:33,090
Adam Curry: For take the break.
A fun little moment happened on

2177
02:08:33,090 --> 02:08:36,090
the view. It's always funny when
these things take place. Of

2178
02:08:36,090 --> 02:08:39,510
course they are running, running
interference for President

2179
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:43,200
Biden. You know, he's just a
good dad. He just has a crappy

2180
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:48,300
son. Come on. Stop already. And
Anand Aveiro. Well, she drops a

2181
02:08:48,300 --> 02:08:50,220
canard of epic proportions.

2182
02:08:50,250 --> 02:08:52,200
Unknown: Hunter Biden. Yes. I
think he's engaged in

2183
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:54,420
corruption. I do think that the
charges against him by the

2184
02:08:54,420 --> 02:08:57,270
Department of Justice are very
serious. I have not seen one

2185
02:08:57,270 --> 02:08:59,910
shred of evidence that it's tied
to Joe Biden. Yeah, that's what

2186
02:08:59,910 --> 02:09:02,760
it comes down to to me. And by
the way, someone who's No, no

2187
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:07,320
Joe Biden fan. Steve Doocy. On
Fox News has been hammering

2188
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:10,320
James Comey. Give me one thing,
one piece of evidence otherwise

2189
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:11,670
it's a waste of taxpayer
dollars.

2190
02:09:11,700 --> 02:09:15,870
Joe Biden's crime is being
Hunter Biden's father and being

2191
02:09:15,870 --> 02:09:19,230
hunted by this very loving
father. Very good father very

2192
02:09:19,230 --> 02:09:23,670
supportive. Father, father. Did
Hunter Biden influence peddle on

2193
02:09:23,670 --> 02:09:27,390
his last name? Yes, he did. So
did half of Washington. People

2194
02:09:27,390 --> 02:09:35,670
sitting at this table did it?
Did Joe did Hunter Biden. Biden.

2195
02:09:36,180 --> 02:09:41,700
Did Hunter Biden cheat on his
taxes? Yes, he did. At this

2196
02:09:41,700 --> 02:09:46,290
table peddled. Oh no, I did not
talking about currently. Oh, we

2197
02:09:46,290 --> 02:09:47,460
just tried to clear our name.

2198
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:54,000
Do I have a claim to fame?
Sorry. Back to my point, please.

2199
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:59,940
Yes. Yeah. We've cleared it up.
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Did he

2200
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,690
Use his last name to make money
to Mark did he monetize on Joe

2201
02:10:03,690 --> 02:10:06,810
Biden's last name? Yes he did.
That's not a crime. Did your

2202
02:10:06,810 --> 02:10:10,620
Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes?
Yes, he did say he has admitted

2203
02:10:10,620 --> 02:10:14,850
it. He paid it back. He paid it
back with $600,000 penalty.

2204
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:16,920
Adam Curry: I just love it when
the truth comes out. It always

2205
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:19,980
wants to come out. Influence
paddlers. Those ladies

2206
02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:26,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they used
to the the I loved over time

2207
02:10:26,700 --> 02:10:30,360
horn or whatever that is the
Google came over to a hockey

2208
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:30,720
game.

2209
02:10:31,290 --> 02:10:33,600
Adam Curry: I love it. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for

2210
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:36,600
your courage in the morning to
you the man who put two C's in

2211
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:40,170
the obesogenic environment
ladies and gentlemen say hello

2212
02:10:40,170 --> 02:10:42,720
to my friend on the other end
the one and only Mr. John

2213
02:10:47,610 --> 02:10:49,770
John C Dvorak: Murray you Mr.
and Karina morning O'Shaughnessy

2214
02:10:49,770 --> 02:10:51,930
boots on the ground feeding the
air subs into one of the games

2215
02:10:51,930 --> 02:10:53,100
nights up there and in

2216
02:10:53,100 --> 02:11:00,540
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls. Trolls hands go look at

2217
02:11:00,540 --> 02:11:04,770
you go. They're so tiny. It's
hard to count them all. I count

2218
02:11:04,770 --> 02:11:10,590
2037 Trolls today in the troll
room? How was that? Is that

2219
02:11:10,590 --> 02:11:11,430
That's 400

2220
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:12,660
John C Dvorak: low and

2221
02:11:12,660 --> 02:11:14,910
Adam Curry: you say that but
this just get ready to the it's

2222
02:11:14,910 --> 02:11:18,360
the new normal. Just just I
mean, how

2223
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:21,030
John C Dvorak: is the time that
we do the count? I think people

2224
02:11:21,030 --> 02:11:24,390
do slowly move away.

2225
02:11:25,500 --> 02:11:28,200
Adam Curry: They move away on to
what bigger and better things

2226
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:32,130
John C Dvorak: to what he
breakfast,

2227
02:11:32,490 --> 02:11:34,320
Adam Curry: please. Oh like a
drive. Go

2228
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:36,120
John C Dvorak: to the store. do
some shopping. It's Christmas

2229
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:39,240
shopping season. Everyone's out
shopping. It is traffic is

2230
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:41,880
jammed up. People are driving
around like maniacs.

2231
02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:43,830
Adam Curry: You'd think there
was shopping there shopping.

2232
02:11:44,370 --> 02:11:46,590
Economy is great. There's
nothing wrong. There's nothing

2233
02:11:46,590 --> 02:11:49,050
going on. But people must be
must be loading up their credit

2234
02:11:49,050 --> 02:11:52,470
cards. How can it be anything
else who has money, the prices

2235
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:56,670
are too high. The rents too
high. It's impossible. It's

2236
02:11:56,670 --> 02:12:01,620
impossible. Anyway, we do love
our trolls. This is a great

2237
02:12:01,620 --> 02:12:06,240
opportunity for you to let it
all hang out. Just join us live

2238
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:10,170
as you can. On show days
Thursdays and Sundays. We do it

2239
02:12:10,170 --> 02:12:17,580
live we start at 1pm Central
time that's to Eastern and you

2240
02:12:17,580 --> 02:12:20,910
can go to troll room.io this,
it's really it's just a simple

2241
02:12:20,910 --> 02:12:24,030
old chat room. It's me. It's an
IRC based chat room. You can

2242
02:12:24,180 --> 02:12:27,690
stay logged in all the time. A
lot of people do that. Because

2243
02:12:27,690 --> 02:12:31,770
of course no agenda stream rolls
out and people are responding to

2244
02:12:31,770 --> 02:12:36,270
that. So we have lots of live
shows. Darren O'Neil does the

2245
02:12:36,270 --> 02:12:38,970
show. Did you listen to Darren
show this morning? No, I

2246
02:12:38,970 --> 02:12:41,160
John C Dvorak: missed it today.
How was it that it was a

2247
02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:42,480
terrible as usual? Yeah,

2248
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:46,950
Adam Curry: it was just so bad.
He didn't play any Taylor Swift.

2249
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:52,290
So yeah, he's got all these
drops of you saying Darren

2250
02:12:52,290 --> 02:12:54,780
O'Neal sucks. He's got he's got
all those

2251
02:12:54,780 --> 02:12:57,990
John C Dvorak: using those.
Yeah, once you drop, Jared.

2252
02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:03,720
Jared Oh, Neil is the best. Oh,
he

2253
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:05,340
Adam Curry: did play Taylor
Swift. Apparently,

2254
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:06,870
John C Dvorak: he stinks.

2255
02:13:09,810 --> 02:13:13,260
Adam Curry: So yeah, go to troll
room.io or no agenda stream.com.

2256
02:13:13,260 --> 02:13:16,500
Or if you're using one of those
swanky modern podcast apps,

2257
02:13:16,740 --> 02:13:21,030
it'll let you know when we go
live. The new podcast apps are

2258
02:13:21,030 --> 02:13:24,150
great. First of all, if you know
if you get thrown off, if any of

2259
02:13:24,150 --> 02:13:26,790
your favorite podcast gets
thrown off of one of the legacy

2260
02:13:26,790 --> 02:13:30,120
apps, I'm talking to Apple,
which will happen. You know that

2261
02:13:30,150 --> 02:13:35,190
Spotify kicks three, four or
five shows a day off of Spotify.

2262
02:13:36,660 --> 02:13:38,580
John C Dvorak: But people don't
really why what was their what's

2263
02:13:38,580 --> 02:13:40,830
their rationale for this
dangerous

2264
02:13:40,830 --> 02:13:43,170
Adam Curry: speech? I don't know
them. They don't really give

2265
02:13:43,170 --> 02:13:46,860
reasons they. But there's, you
know, there's a whole system.

2266
02:13:47,130 --> 02:13:50,670
Because if you have most podcast
hosting companies, you can

2267
02:13:50,670 --> 02:13:53,970
automatically when you post it
or you know, even when you start

2268
02:13:53,970 --> 02:13:57,450
your account, it'll set you up
on Spotify. They have an

2269
02:13:57,450 --> 02:14:03,240
agreement. And excuse me, when
Spotify kick someone off, then

2270
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:06,690
they pay automatically ping the
podcast hosting company and say

2271
02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:09,690
we kick these guys off, but they
don't give a reason. They just

2272
02:14:09,690 --> 02:14:12,690
tell them so that when people
call up the hosting company and

2273
02:14:12,690 --> 02:14:17,160
say, Hey, I'm not on Spotify,
that they can say yeah, they

2274
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:19,920
kicked you off and you have to
take it up with them. It's

2275
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:21,960
horrible. Really. That's
horrible. So that

2276
02:14:22,980 --> 02:14:26,880
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you
Sunday is not horrible. The new

2277
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:31,470
no agenda art works. Site is
unbelievable.

2278
02:14:31,500 --> 02:14:34,020
Adam Curry: Is it up? Yep. And
what? You're a little early. I'm

2279
02:14:34,020 --> 02:14:35,460
not quite done with the
promotion yet.

2280
02:14:35,730 --> 02:14:36,990
John C Dvorak: No, sorry. Okay.
I'm just

2281
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:39,570
Adam Curry: you're excited. I
understand.

2282
02:14:39,630 --> 02:14:41,340
John C Dvorak: I'm jacked up.

2283
02:14:41,370 --> 02:14:46,890
Adam Curry: I understand. Me
too. So besides the fact that

2284
02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:52,680
when we post the show any show
you'll be notified within 90

2285
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:55,530
seconds. The show is good to go.
You know on some of these legacy

2286
02:14:55,530 --> 02:14:58,410
app, it takes an hour's hours
before you find out before

2287
02:14:58,410 --> 02:15:02,730
they're updated. Now Another
thing I want to mention value

2288
02:15:02,730 --> 02:15:05,580
for value, which we'll talk
about in a minute, has this

2289
02:15:05,580 --> 02:15:10,260
concept that we've been running
for 16 years. Has what? Huh?

2290
02:15:11,130 --> 02:15:14,310
What? What? You went, huh? Oh,

2291
02:15:14,310 --> 02:15:16,680
John C Dvorak: I Yeah, no, I was
looking at a piece and it looked

2292
02:15:16,680 --> 02:15:18,960
at the artist. Oh, yeah. You're
not even listening to me. Okay.

2293
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:21,630
I'm sorry. No, I'm listening.
You don't have I'm sorry that

2294
02:15:21,630 --> 02:15:25,920
I'm so close to the mic that I I
actually went and got your

2295
02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:26,550
attention.

2296
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:33,390
Adam Curry: Oh, wake up. Value
for value has taken off so big

2297
02:15:33,660 --> 02:15:38,400
that now people are running away
from Spotify. And they're put

2298
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:43,110
they are and they're putting
their music up on the podcast

2299
02:15:43,110 --> 02:15:46,650
apps that are value for value,
the modern podcast idea? Yes.

2300
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:50,850
Yes. Because it's no different
from a podcast and album, you've

2301
02:15:50,850 --> 02:15:54,300
got a feed you put any instead
of episodes, its tracks. And

2302
02:15:54,300 --> 02:15:57,210
because we have this live system
that we've been pioneering,

2303
02:15:57,240 --> 02:15:59,490
we've been pining for a long
time, but now it works and all

2304
02:15:59,490 --> 02:16:05,160
the modern apps. December 20,
December 21. Live from

2305
02:16:05,190 --> 02:16:09,390
Minneapolis from First Avenue
that's Prince's Old, old venue.

2306
02:16:09,810 --> 02:16:13,200
Ainsley Costello and just loud
are going to do a live concert

2307
02:16:13,200 --> 02:16:18,780
value for value video and audio
modern podcast apps.com Or I

2308
02:16:18,780 --> 02:16:22,050
think Ainsley costello.com You
can learn more about it. It's I

2309
02:16:22,050 --> 02:16:24,540
mean, it's gonna be fantastic
because it's completely

2310
02:16:24,540 --> 02:16:28,650
independent of all these stupid
legacy systems. And I'm very

2311
02:16:28,650 --> 02:16:32,160
well that's a plus. Yeah, well,
that it's it's it is the totally

2312
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:35,940
the feature. So now we're
talking about value for value.

2313
02:16:35,970 --> 02:16:39,180
Yes, indeed time talent treasure
you can contribute to the show

2314
02:16:39,180 --> 02:16:41,730
in many ways. You heard a boots
on the ground report. That is a

2315
02:16:41,730 --> 02:16:45,720
great way to support us. The
three by three many clips are

2316
02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:49,830
sent to us by the clip custodian
the clip collector Dave Ackerman

2317
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:54,390
sends me a daily news briefing
almost. We've got Sarah in the

2318
02:16:54,390 --> 02:16:58,740
UK who sends me compendiums.
This is all very helpful. And

2319
02:16:58,770 --> 02:17:02,670
please, whenever you think they
probably already know this. No,

2320
02:17:02,940 --> 02:17:08,370
no, we probably don't I'd rather
I'd rather delete 15 emails that

2321
02:17:08,370 --> 02:17:11,700
are doubles instead of missing
something. So you know, please

2322
02:17:11,700 --> 02:17:15,300
continue to reach out to us.
People do websites, people.

2323
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:20,940
Let's talk about it right now.
Our artists or artists have been

2324
02:17:20,940 --> 02:17:26,730
creating artwork, a new one for
every single show. For 1213

2325
02:17:26,730 --> 02:17:28,740
years. I can't remember how long
it's been going on. It's been

2326
02:17:28,740 --> 02:17:34,020
going on for a long time. And we
love using fresh artwork. It

2327
02:17:34,020 --> 02:17:37,380
gives people something to talk
about. It looks great in on

2328
02:17:37,380 --> 02:17:40,980
social media, it looks great
just everywhere. It you know,

2329
02:17:41,310 --> 02:17:44,250
your podcast app like oh, what
is that? Oh, this is different.

2330
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:47,640
Oh, it's no agenda, of course.
So we want to thank networks for

2331
02:17:47,640 --> 02:17:51,900
the artwork for episode 1616. We
titled that one buying quiet.

2332
02:17:52,710 --> 02:17:56,760
And this was really the best one
that there was, I think we

2333
02:17:56,760 --> 02:18:00,870
looked at a couple of pieces.
This is the AI winter is coming.

2334
02:18:01,650 --> 02:18:06,510
As he proclaimed the AI Winter
is on the way. We had other

2335
02:18:06,510 --> 02:18:10,110
pieces. I'm going now to no
agenda art generator.com This is

2336
02:18:10,110 --> 02:18:14,820
it's taken a long time to load,
John. This is the brand new,

2337
02:18:15,150 --> 02:18:19,440
revamped after it was down
crashed and destroyed for

2338
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:21,720
several weeks. It's still not
loading for me

2339
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:26,400
John C Dvorak: was because I
probably might want you to get

2340
02:18:26,400 --> 02:18:27,390
out one other users

2341
02:18:27,389 --> 02:18:28,859
Adam Curry: me one person at a
time.

2342
02:18:30,719 --> 02:18:33,179
John C Dvorak: One person at a
time? Well, he says no, it's

2343
02:18:33,179 --> 02:18:36,749
still working out some bugs. And
then he's got some of the it's

2344
02:18:36,749 --> 02:18:40,019
not finished. But it's just the
new service.

2345
02:18:40,050 --> 02:18:42,270
Adam Curry: Yes, Sir Paul
couture, who has been

2346
02:18:42,270 --> 02:18:45,870
maintaining this thing for over
a decade? You know, we've had

2347
02:18:45,870 --> 02:18:48,360
some horrible hardware crash.
What I'm thinking right now is

2348
02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:51,870
that probably everyone went to
our agenda are generated. As I

2349
02:18:51,870 --> 02:18:52,200
said

2350
02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:54,840
John C Dvorak: it Yeah.
mentioned it like I got flooded.

2351
02:18:54,930 --> 02:18:57,570
Yeah. So Yeah, makes sense. So
it's

2352
02:18:57,570 --> 02:19:00,390
Adam Curry: still not loading
for me. So I can't really talk

2353
02:19:00,390 --> 02:19:02,850
about any of the art recamft You
have to walk me through it was

2354
02:19:02,850 --> 02:19:05,070
there until it loads for me. But

2355
02:19:05,070 --> 02:19:08,100
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
those pieces. Shoot,

2356
02:19:08,550 --> 02:19:10,320
Adam Curry: is I got a gateway
timeout.

2357
02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:15,450
John C Dvorak: Oh, crap. Well,
he doesn't have those pieces up

2358
02:19:16,170 --> 02:19:17,760
from last show. Well,

2359
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:19,620
Adam Curry: then we could just
say everything sucked. But this

2360
02:19:19,620 --> 02:19:21,060
one from networks? No, they

2361
02:19:21,059 --> 02:19:23,009
John C Dvorak: were all there
were some good pieces. I thought

2362
02:19:23,009 --> 02:19:26,639
all the pieces were usable. But
networks I thought was the best

2363
02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:29,429
because it just had everything
we wanted. And it was aI

2364
02:19:29,459 --> 02:19:33,809
obviously, no, it was totally AI
everything. You know, we were

2365
02:19:33,809 --> 02:19:38,069
kind of resigned, even though I
know you were going to reject

2366
02:19:38,099 --> 02:19:40,259
all AI forever.

2367
02:19:40,559 --> 02:19:42,959
Adam Curry: It's not possible.
It's not possible. And no,

2368
02:19:42,990 --> 02:19:45,870
John C Dvorak: that's the point.
It's not possible. It's become a

2369
02:19:46,380 --> 02:19:48,570
pretty good utility. It's
futile.

2370
02:19:48,660 --> 02:19:50,640
Adam Curry: It's become a pretty
good tool for artists who know

2371
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:54,780
how to use and that's really
agree at the end of the day, and

2372
02:19:54,780 --> 02:19:59,490
I set it on purpose. AI will
only benefit the no agenda show

2373
02:19:59,550 --> 02:20:03,540
it will do Nothing for humanity.
It'll do nothing for business.

2374
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:07,860
It'll do nothing for your spam.
It'll only benefit the no agenda

2375
02:20:07,860 --> 02:20:11,400
artists. That's the whole point.
And I'm happy that there's $100

2376
02:20:11,400 --> 02:20:14,910
billion industry just working
for us. Good to know.

2377
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:18,450
John C Dvorak: So I'm still
trying I ended up with a gateway

2378
02:20:18,450 --> 02:20:22,350
timeout while looking at these
artworks. She was just you were

2379
02:20:22,350 --> 02:20:23,880
just saying can we crashed it?

2380
02:20:24,780 --> 02:20:27,000
Adam Curry: Well, the trolls are
saying, Oh, whoops. Yeah, I'm

2381
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:29,220
guilty of that. Yeah, we crashed
it. I'm

2382
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:31,530
John C Dvorak: okay. We crashed
it was my fault for saying

2383
02:20:31,530 --> 02:20:33,360
anything. I wasn't thinking
clearly. Yeah,

2384
02:20:33,390 --> 02:20:36,090
Adam Curry: I know what probably
happened because he's still

2385
02:20:36,090 --> 02:20:41,100
copying over, like 300 gigabytes
of artwork. And that's probably

2386
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:45,180
taxing the system. So while we
keep reloading that trolls

2387
02:20:45,180 --> 02:20:50,400
please stop. Why don't we go to
the final T of the trifecta

2388
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:53,040
which is treasure and thank our
executive and Associate

2389
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:57,150
Executive Producers shortlist
today, but we are very happy to

2390
02:20:58,440 --> 02:21:04,170
to acknowledge our first
executive producer Mike rotch my

2391
02:21:04,170 --> 02:21:05,880
crotch I sat down my

2392
02:21:05,880 --> 02:21:09,570
John C Dvorak: garage by the way
we were dos the same fast guy

2393
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:13,350
getting a PhD is late because he
this was blogging coming.

2394
02:21:14,820 --> 02:21:17,130
Adam Curry: I just loved it. His
name is Mike rotch I mean

2395
02:21:17,130 --> 02:21:17,490
really?

2396
02:21:17,670 --> 02:21:22,710
John C Dvorak: Do it is on the
bank check. It's in my garage is

2397
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:28,200
Mike right Wow. So we're looking
at Jay and I are looking at Holy

2398
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:31,560
mackerel. I said his parents
must have been a couple of

2399
02:21:31,740 --> 02:21:35,040
characters Ronnie Hey, I

2400
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:42,180
Adam Curry: know my last name is
Rod let's call him Mike Dr sir

2401
02:21:42,180 --> 02:21:43,770
my crotch you can

2402
02:21:43,770 --> 02:21:45,870
John C Dvorak: just imagine what
the hunt family

2403
02:21:47,730 --> 02:21:50,340
Adam Curry: powder springs
Georgia and he comes in with two

2404
02:21:50,340 --> 02:21:56,310
checks one boobs eight oh dot
eight five and then a 211 and he

2405
02:21:56,310 --> 02:22:00,360
says hey and a folder here which
means he goes back to daily

2406
02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:03,810
source code days. Thank you.
Thank you brother. Don't

2407
02:22:03,810 --> 02:22:07,710
castigate me for operating
within the outlined late rules

2408
02:22:08,130 --> 02:22:12,660
211 goes towards double Richards
on the big boobs of eight oh dot

2409
02:22:12,690 --> 02:22:17,040
eight five now to be known as
double Doctor sir my crotch

2410
02:22:17,340 --> 02:22:21,930
Baron bowl of the lifestyle MD
medical doctor at MD media

2411
02:22:21,930 --> 02:22:26,550
deconstruction haha he might
actually be a doctor. Could be

2412
02:22:26,610 --> 02:22:31,950
that's even funnier. My crotch
OBGYN why nice requesting Eiffel

2413
02:22:31,950 --> 02:22:35,100
Towers with high fives and
twerking Russians for backroom

2414
02:22:35,100 --> 02:22:38,370
festivities of the Round Table
you're guessing

2415
02:22:38,730 --> 02:22:40,920
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing is a
urologist with that name.

2416
02:22:42,900 --> 02:22:45,480
Adam Curry: If we love guys like
that, Mike you got it you shall

2417
02:22:45,480 --> 02:22:48,810
be you shouldn't be the Baron
bowl of the lifestyle and

2418
02:22:48,810 --> 02:22:52,470
John C Dvorak: you know a lot of
guys and I would do this. You

2419
02:22:52,470 --> 02:22:56,910
take the no agenda diploma which
looks exactly like a classic

2420
02:22:56,910 --> 02:23:01,290
diploma because it's because it
is and is modeled after some

2421
02:23:01,290 --> 02:23:04,800
dynamite ones that would you
know, based on took a while to

2422
02:23:04,830 --> 02:23:09,990
fine tune it. And you'd put it
up there on the wall with the

2423
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:15,060
other diplomas and let people
see what what happens. That's

2424
02:23:15,060 --> 02:23:15,690
what I do.

2425
02:23:16,770 --> 02:23:19,710
Adam Curry: I think lots of good
things will come your way. Yeah,

2426
02:23:19,710 --> 02:23:23,010
John C Dvorak: people Oh, in the
morning. Yes, indeed. Sir.

2427
02:23:23,010 --> 02:23:26,610
Spooky is up next. Unless up
December. That's all we had to

2428
02:23:26,610 --> 02:23:29,760
do. That's all we had to do
nothing. Yes, sir. Spooky is in

2429
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:35,160
Western Springs, Illinois.
33333. Here, Adam and John. I

2430
02:23:35,160 --> 02:23:37,650
want to celebrate my 33rd
birthday on Tuesdays at

2431
02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:40,830
executive producer for the best
podcast in the universe plus the

2432
02:23:40,830 --> 02:23:47,490
16th and 17 of this episode
number equals 33. Oh no. I

2433
02:23:47,490 --> 02:23:51,390
cannot ignore such a cosmic
calling. Please give us your

2434
02:23:51,390 --> 02:23:55,320
strongest goat karma for peace
and harmony and 2024 year media

2435
02:23:55,320 --> 02:23:59,310
deconstructs you will be needed
more than ever. I'm deeply

2436
02:23:59,310 --> 02:24:02,130
grateful for all you do. Thank
you and Merry Christmas love and

2437
02:24:02,130 --> 02:24:05,250
fright, sir spooky of the Elm
streets.

2438
02:24:07,470 --> 02:24:15,360
Adam Curry: You've got Arma 333
dot 33 Trenton Scoville,

2439
02:24:15,420 --> 02:24:17,970
Charlotte, North Carolina short
and sweet Merry Christmas,

2440
02:24:17,970 --> 02:24:21,750
gents. Thank you for the value
and thank you for the value sent

2441
02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:25,350
back. By the way, the reminder
you can send any amount you want

2442
02:24:25,350 --> 02:24:29,070
a lot of people liked the
numerology stuff, but as long as

2443
02:24:29,070 --> 02:24:32,400
it represents the value you got
from the show, that's all we ask

2444
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:33,330
for. Thank you, Trenton.

2445
02:24:34,170 --> 02:24:37,770
John C Dvorak: Rita Harrington
sparks Nevada also 33333 Merry

2446
02:24:37,770 --> 02:24:40,800
Christmas, John and Adam. David
the best podcast in the

2447
02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:45,030
universe. Your sense of humor is
just right. Please give me a

2448
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:51,540
shout out as it's my 66th trip
around the sun on 1220 Thanks.

2449
02:24:52,410 --> 02:24:52,920
Reminded

2450
02:24:52,920 --> 02:24:55,650
Adam Curry: from Logan five that
the next episode is the golden

2451
02:24:55,650 --> 02:25:00,930
ratio number 1618 Oh, Oh, yes.
Can

2452
02:25:00,930 --> 02:25:01,620
John C Dvorak: you get right?
Can

2453
02:25:01,620 --> 02:25:05,670
Adam Curry: you write that down?
You write that down. And I'll

2454
02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:09,450
continue with chap. Williams,
who, from what I can see your

2455
02:25:09,450 --> 02:25:15,150
came in with two checks possibly
of 333 dot 33. He's here he's

2456
02:25:15,150 --> 02:25:18,570
listed double. Looks like these
are checks. Can you verify

2457
02:25:18,570 --> 02:25:21,570
John C Dvorak: objects they
don't even say two of them came

2458
02:25:21,570 --> 02:25:21,720
in

2459
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:23,910
Adam Curry: and he did not have
a note which means he gets a

2460
02:25:23,910 --> 02:25:30,330
double up karmic. Thank you chap
you've got? Yes, of course the

2461
02:25:30,330 --> 02:25:34,710
golden ratio was 1.618. Of
course, that's the golden ratio.

2462
02:25:35,850 --> 02:25:38,250
1618 1.618.

2463
02:25:38,490 --> 02:25:43,080
John C Dvorak: So everyone
should give $1.61 and we'll be

2464
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:43,860
good to go.

2465
02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:45,450
Adam Curry: If everyone did,
yes.

2466
02:25:46,710 --> 02:25:50,010
John C Dvorak: David Mertens, in
Edmond, Oklahoma. That'll be the

2467
02:25:50,010 --> 02:25:50,730
day if

2468
02:25:50,730 --> 02:25:54,990
Adam Curry: everyone, everyone,
every single person gives $1.68.

2469
02:25:55,200 --> 02:25:56,820
We're done for the rest of the
year.

2470
02:25:57,270 --> 02:26:01,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. David
Mertens, in Edmond, Oklahoma.

2471
02:26:01,830 --> 02:26:07,950
333. This is for the best
podcast in the universe. In

2472
02:26:07,950 --> 02:26:15,150
celebration of the best Papa in
the universe. Ah D DJ and

2473
02:26:15,150 --> 02:26:17,490
Thatcher are so lucky.

2474
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:22,770
Adam Curry: Now. That sounds
like sounds like a good Papa.

2475
02:26:23,130 --> 02:26:24,240
There you go. And I'll

2476
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:26,130
John C Dvorak: continue to the
end here because there's only

2477
02:26:26,130 --> 02:26:29,550
one Associate Executive
Producer. And it just so happens

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to be guest who Linda Lu patcon.
in Lakewood, Colorado, who's

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still at it with her jobs
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particular announcement that she
does. Jobs, jobs and jobs for

2486
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jobs. Every show.

2487
02:27:06,300 --> 02:27:08,790
Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you,
Linda. Thank you all executive

2488
02:27:08,790 --> 02:27:11,040
on Associate Executive Producer,
I told you it's going to be

2489
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:15,870
short and sweet today. We
appreciate that. And not only

2490
02:27:15,870 --> 02:27:18,720
does this mean that you have
supported the show, but you also

2491
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:22,500
can use this credit which is
completely legal, according to

2492
02:27:22,500 --> 02:27:26,220
the show business Bible. You can
use this anywhere credits are

2493
02:27:26,220 --> 02:27:28,950
recognized because we are an
official show, you can go ahead

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go to imdb.com You'll see
hundreds almost 1000 executive

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or Associate Executive producers
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recognize some big names in
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put it on your LinkedIn or
Google What are you drinking

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today?

2499
02:27:43,590 --> 02:27:45,900
John C Dvorak: Yes, you can't
when you get this microphone is

2500
02:27:45,900 --> 02:27:49,020
did I have to turn out it's ever
seen actually drinking? Your

2501
02:27:49,020 --> 02:27:51,930
favorite a Topo Chico? Mineral
water?

2502
02:27:51,960 --> 02:27:55,680
Adam Curry: Yes. Topo Chico?
That is the drink of Texas.

2503
02:27:55,710 --> 02:27:59,130
Everybody loves the toe. Is it a
bottle or a can must be a

2504
02:27:59,130 --> 02:27:59,490
bottle. It's

2505
02:27:59,490 --> 02:28:01,830
John C Dvorak: a bottle and I
and they haven't had Costco at a

2506
02:28:01,830 --> 02:28:03,180
really good price. I

2507
02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:05,580
Adam Curry: heard that the
Costco Bordeaux is back.

2508
02:28:06,660 --> 02:28:08,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, somebody
sent some pictures of it. And I

2509
02:28:08,700 --> 02:28:12,690
will say this, that 2021 is not
a good vintage and I'm really

2510
02:28:12,690 --> 02:28:16,470
doubtful that this wine is going
to be that great. But when I see

2511
02:28:16,470 --> 02:28:17,490
it, I'll try it

2512
02:28:17,610 --> 02:28:21,810
Adam Curry: Topo Chico with a
yellow cap. You can look at the

2513
02:28:21,810 --> 02:28:25,770
yellow cap recognized anywhere.
So you can as I said these

2514
02:28:25,830 --> 02:28:28,920
credits can also put them on
your LinkedIn or on your resume.

2515
02:28:29,100 --> 02:28:32,370
It's great. It's good. It's
valid forever. And unlike the

2516
02:28:32,370 --> 02:28:36,090
phonies in Hollywood, we'll
gladly vouch for you. And John's

2517
02:28:36,090 --> 02:28:38,610
gonna take us through to the 50s
and we'll get into our meetups

2518
02:28:38,610 --> 02:28:40,950
and our nice things. Carrie

2519
02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:44,130
John C Dvorak: Wiley starts us
off from Arvada, Colorado, and

2520
02:28:44,130 --> 02:28:48,210
she is going to ask for jobs
Commerford daughter Kate. She

2521
02:28:48,210 --> 02:28:51,210
came in with 150 bucks we'll
give her the jobs calm at the

2522
02:28:51,210 --> 02:28:56,310
end. Bruce Schwalm in
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 12345.

2523
02:28:56,430 --> 02:29:01,560
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New
Mexico. Yes. 100 Tony pace in

2524
02:29:01,560 --> 02:29:06,690
Houston, Texas. 100 Dane
Patricia Worthington from Miami

2525
02:29:06,690 --> 02:29:13,860
is here with 100 James Watson in
mentor Ohio 100. BINGO Kevin

2526
02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:20,670
McLaughlin in in Concord, North
Carolina. 808. boobs don't

2527
02:29:20,670 --> 02:29:25,890
judge. They just love
unconditionally. Sir g k in

2528
02:29:25,890 --> 02:29:32,550
Tulsa, Oklahoma. 7373 73. Or
Rick in Arlington, Washington.

2529
02:29:32,730 --> 02:29:38,730
6996. Always good to hear from
him. Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke

2530
02:29:38,730 --> 02:29:44,370
of Luna is back. 606 small boobs
and he says boobs. They're not

2531
02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:46,230
just for men anymore.

2532
02:29:48,510 --> 02:29:51,300
Adam Curry: You know, I have to
say, besides the fact that he's

2533
02:29:51,300 --> 02:29:53,220
been donating for months,

2534
02:29:54,510 --> 02:29:56,640
John C Dvorak: I think over a
year he

2535
02:29:56,670 --> 02:30:04,410
Adam Curry: his his his his
writing is Creative I love it

2536
02:30:04,890 --> 02:30:07,350
John C Dvorak: he's the best
speaking of writing Schreiber,

2537
02:30:07,380 --> 02:30:08,490
Madrid and Meryl speaking

2538
02:30:08,490 --> 02:30:11,730
Adam Curry: of writing we were
expecting to have some kind of

2539
02:30:11,730 --> 02:30:14,820
write off in the newsletter Tina
was all excited about it and

2540
02:30:14,820 --> 02:30:20,010
then you bugged out it was a
handwriting Comparison Test yeah

2541
02:30:20,010 --> 02:30:22,890
John C Dvorak: I have to get
back to the other woman you're

2542
02:30:22,890 --> 02:30:25,050
gonna have a show to here's
where it's gonna go because I've

2543
02:30:25,050 --> 02:30:29,160
got grandiose plans is going to
be those to show down into the

2544
02:30:29,160 --> 02:30:32,010
winner takes on the next person
who thinks they've got good

2545
02:30:32,010 --> 02:30:35,550
handwriting and we go we go into
we get a winner at the end will

2546
02:30:35,550 --> 02:30:39,570
be crown handwriting champion of
the no agenda show and where the

2547
02:30:39,570 --> 02:30:40,380
judges right.

2548
02:30:41,250 --> 02:30:43,440
Adam Curry: Yeah, you and me.
Yeah, cool. Okay. All right.

2549
02:30:43,440 --> 02:30:43,890
Carry on.

2550
02:30:45,870 --> 02:30:46,920
John C Dvorak: As opposed to
who?

2551
02:30:47,460 --> 02:30:49,050
Adam Curry: I just want to make
sure we're doing it the way

2552
02:30:49,050 --> 02:30:50,550
these things are always on the
wait table

2553
02:30:50,550 --> 02:30:52,620
John C Dvorak: in Africa. We get
this done they will be that will

2554
02:30:52,620 --> 02:30:56,310
give us the kind of that is
stretching our delta gives you

2555
02:30:56,310 --> 02:31:00,480
the stretching exercises
necessary to do the podcasting

2556
02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:05,760
award. Scott Schreiber is up
next season in Madrid Maryland

2557
02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:11,640
is 60 nakshi is in Madrid and
says Madrid, Spain, Spain, MD in

2558
02:31:12,060 --> 02:31:16,860
Toronto. He's in Madrid Spain
Espanol. Which is nice. A Baron

2559
02:31:16,860 --> 02:31:22,290
of BNN. Nashville Tennessee.
959 93 sure be boop we haven't

2560
02:31:22,290 --> 02:31:26,640
heard from him for a while in
New Brighton Minnesota. 2678 is

2561
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:31,890
the frozen tundra. Allah ASA
Pava in Ormond Beach, Florida.

2562
02:31:31,890 --> 02:31:36,840
5555. James Edmondson in South
Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510.

2563
02:31:37,050 --> 02:31:41,190
Eli, the coffee guy in
Bensenville Illinois. Go to

2564
02:31:41,190 --> 02:31:43,860
gigawatt Coffee Roasters. You
got to put that to be any so we

2565
02:31:43,860 --> 02:31:49,530
can read it. Yeah. Anyway, yes,
go to giga gigawatt coffee

2566
02:31:49,530 --> 02:31:52,140
words. I'm tricky. I'm going
through there. I'm gonna have to

2567
02:31:52,140 --> 02:31:56,070
tell you what their best one is.
And they'll give you ITM 20 You

2568
02:31:56,070 --> 02:32:03,120
get 20% off. 2155 10 Sir Tom
Darian to force Wisconsin. 5510

2569
02:32:03,420 --> 02:32:08,520
jerris Corporation Arlington,
Virginia 53. Sir anonymous cop

2570
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:12,960
in Redwood City, California.
5150 Christine Hines in

2571
02:32:12,960 --> 02:32:18,570
Manchester New Hampshire. 5123.
By count sir economic hitman in

2572
02:32:18,570 --> 02:32:26,220
Tomball, Texas 5001 Kelly
MacDill in Mission Hills, Kansas

2573
02:32:26,220 --> 02:32:32,340
50 ups. We're already into the
50s is a loose small list. But

2574
02:32:32,340 --> 02:32:36,150
let's do a name and location.
Kevin MacDill in Mission Hills,

2575
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:41,520
Kansas, Michelle parrot, parrot
in Salem, Oregon. Easy

2576
02:32:41,520 --> 02:32:46,110
landscapes in North Stonington
Connecticut, Chris Lewinsky and

2577
02:32:46,110 --> 02:32:49,560
Sherwood Park, Alberta, and
Michael Thompson new Browns

2578
02:32:49,590 --> 02:32:54,150
fells Texas to look blue.
Phillip blue in Louisville,

2579
02:32:54,150 --> 02:32:59,880
Kentucky Jones polls in Hernando
Beach, Florida, Nathan Cochran

2580
02:32:59,880 --> 02:33:03,900
and Franklin Tennessee, Tatiana
Prince in Hollywood, Florida.

2581
02:33:04,110 --> 02:33:09,480
Sir Jerry winging Roth in
Saugus, California sir spud the

2582
02:33:09,480 --> 02:33:13,170
mighty in Marietta, Georgia
brand Watson in Raleigh, North

2583
02:33:13,170 --> 02:33:19,080
Carolina Walker Phillips and
Sandra fell. Tony Health's in

2584
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:25,230
Fort Worth, Texas. William dole
gage in Bristol Ville, Ohio,

2585
02:33:25,260 --> 02:33:30,600
Jason de Lucia and Miami Beach.
And last but not least, our

2586
02:33:30,600 --> 02:33:36,270
buddy Ichi Kitteh Galois in San
Francisco Thank you people for

2587
02:33:36,270 --> 02:33:42,090
helping us out on show 1617 I
think yes, we got 1618 coming

2588
02:33:42,090 --> 02:33:44,550
up, which is the golden ratio
gotta come up with some good

2589
02:33:44,550 --> 02:33:46,170
ideas here for that donation.

2590
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:48,990
Adam Curry: And before we
continue Karen Wiley won a jobs

2591
02:33:48,990 --> 02:33:52,230
karma for her daughter cat
answer Chris Abram of the pike,

2592
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:55,740
not a spook of Arlington also
needs jobs, karma TPP for you

2593
02:33:55,740 --> 02:33:56,040
guys.

2594
02:33:56,310 --> 02:34:01,710
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs,
karma,

2595
02:34:02,340 --> 02:34:04,890
Adam Curry: the word generator
just loaded, beautiful. And

2596
02:34:04,890 --> 02:34:07,590
again, thank you very much to
our executive and Associate

2597
02:34:07,590 --> 02:34:10,470
Executive producers for
supporting us here for episode

2598
02:34:10,470 --> 02:34:15,240
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2599
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everyone who came in under $50
You are appreciated you are

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2607
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Unknown: A and thank

2609
02:34:45,630 --> 02:34:47,580
Adam Curry: you once again for
supporting us here at the best

2610
02:34:47,580 --> 02:34:50,130
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2611
02:34:50,130 --> 02:34:54,540
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out. We hit people in the mouth

2612
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Adam Curry: I just like the
donation shortlisted a Carolyn

2613
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Hafner will be 50 Tomorrow your
hubby sent that in at the last

2614
02:35:20,310 --> 02:35:23,850
moment give him an extra hug
because that was quite the

2615
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mission he went through to get
that happening because he was

2616
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:30,510
spooky turns 33 on the 19th and
we to hurricane Harrington will

2617
02:35:30,510 --> 02:35:34,140
be 66 on the 20th Happy birthday
for everybody here the best

2618
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podcast in the universe. We
congratulate my crotch who

2619
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becomes a doctor in PhD in media
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2620
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go to no agenda rings.com to
pick up his PhD and that means

2621
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we also have one nice thing to
do if you this of course is

2622
02:35:54,420 --> 02:35:57,270
John C Dvorak: one nagging sword
right here and I know what I

2623
02:35:57,270 --> 02:35:57,720
like

2624
02:35:58,020 --> 02:36:04,050
Adam Curry: Mike rotch I want to
meet your parents Mike rotch

2625
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Thank you very much for your
super donation and I'm very

2626
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proud to pronounce the Kate you
as double Doctor sir Mike crotch

2627
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Baron bowl of the lifestyle
surgeon for you. And only for

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02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:20,550
you. We have Eiffel Towers with
high fives and twerking

2629
02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:24,150
Russians. We've got hookers and
blow rent boys and Chardonnay in

2630
02:36:24,150 --> 02:36:26,640
case you want them. We got some
redheads in rise. We got some

2631
02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:29,490
beer and bloods we have cow
girls and coffin varnas

2632
02:36:29,490 --> 02:36:32,460
Rubenesque women and Roseanne
cases and sock a buck a Manila

2633
02:36:32,790 --> 02:36:35,880
bong hits them bourbon sparkling
cider and escorts ginger ale and

2634
02:36:35,880 --> 02:36:39,660
dribbles breast milk and pablum.
And of course to go with your

2635
02:36:40,470 --> 02:36:43,440
work in Russian some mutton to
meet so you're probably already

2636
02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:46,950
over at no agenda. rings.com
Thank you very much.

2637
02:36:47,130 --> 02:36:49,080
John C Dvorak: Congratulations
to work in Russians.

2638
02:36:49,110 --> 02:36:52,080
Adam Curry: That's a good one.
Have we seen have we ever seen

2639
02:36:52,080 --> 02:36:56,640
twerking Russians? I bet you
they know. Look out Russian

2640
02:36:56,640 --> 02:36:57,210
dashboard

2641
02:36:57,210 --> 02:36:59,940
John C Dvorak: can come in and
Zetas newest thing could be the

2642
02:36:59,940 --> 02:37:00,540
new thing.

2643
02:37:00,750 --> 02:37:02,640
Adam Curry: Mike,
congratulations on your a

2644
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:05,760
knighthood and your PhD and
thank you so much. We really

2645
02:37:05,760 --> 02:37:08,730
appreciate the sport, you have
offered value for value. We

2646
02:37:08,730 --> 02:37:13,410
don't mess around. There's no
paywalls no secret levels, no

2647
02:37:13,410 --> 02:37:16,890
premium content though. We give
all the premium stuff right up

2648
02:37:16,890 --> 02:37:19,860
front. do with it what you want,
but if at some point you think

2649
02:37:19,890 --> 02:37:22,620
you know that's pretty valuable,
send it back to us time talent

2650
02:37:22,620 --> 02:37:24,450
or treasure. No one

2651
02:37:31,170 --> 02:37:34,890
ride to no agenda meetups. This
is what you need. No agenda

2652
02:37:34,890 --> 02:37:37,680
meetups. It is the perfect
companion to the podcast. It's

2653
02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:40,680
also a great way to pick up some
COVID it's perfect if you want

2654
02:37:40,680 --> 02:37:43,950
to get some illness go to go to
a meet up because sharing is

2655
02:37:43,950 --> 02:37:46,950
caring and connection is
protection. You really need to

2656
02:37:46,950 --> 02:37:50,250
join your community. I'm not
kidding about this. It's great

2657
02:37:50,280 --> 02:37:54,030
to be a part of the in person,
no agenda community. Lots of

2658
02:37:54,030 --> 02:37:56,460
great meetups happening all
around the world. We have two

2659
02:37:56,460 --> 02:37:58,560
reports. This one's from Epping,
New Hampshire

2660
02:37:58,590 --> 02:38:00,270
Unknown: in the morning. This is
the

2661
02:38:00,510 --> 02:38:02,550
Epping New Hampshire center of
the universe.

2662
02:38:02,580 --> 02:38:07,890
No agenda meto here we are. I am
not a douchebag My name is Dave

2663
02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:12,600
and I just recently got my
official podcasting license

2664
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:16,080
in the morning. This is Sir
pokey first night of the 42 I

2665
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:18,870
love both you guys and John. I'm
still so sorry. You probably

2666
02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:21,360
didn't get my email that I
apologize because you blocked me

2667
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:23,490
but I'm so sorry. Forgive me. I
love you both

2668
02:38:23,820 --> 02:38:27,840
in the morning. This is Daniel.
Sir Daniel. I don't know. I'm

2669
02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:30,000
not sure yet. It's all I got.

2670
02:38:30,180 --> 02:38:31,830
Thank you for your courage.

2671
02:38:31,860 --> 02:38:35,490
This is Damon Lydia in the
morning. This is Angelica

2672
02:38:35,700 --> 02:38:37,710
Adam Curry: I think there's
there should be some kind of a

2673
02:38:37,800 --> 02:38:41,790
special group of people who
you've blocked. Now there should

2674
02:38:41,790 --> 02:38:46,200
be a block club. Yes. The JCD no
agenda block club. I think if

2675
02:38:46,200 --> 02:38:49,170
someone should start that now
and you have to prove

2676
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:51,870
John C Dvorak: let me say this.
Let me say this. Let me say

2677
02:38:51,870 --> 02:38:52,080
this.

2678
02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:53,790
Adam Curry: Why don't you say
something?

2679
02:38:54,060 --> 02:38:56,970
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna say
this. This is bullcrap. Most of

2680
02:38:56,970 --> 02:38:59,490
the people that think they've
been blocked or not blocked,

2681
02:38:59,820 --> 02:39:00,210
it's the

2682
02:39:00,210 --> 02:39:04,620
Adam Curry: block ease There you
go. This your award show

2683
02:39:05,610 --> 02:39:10,590
blocking the no agenda block
ease award show. Come on down,

2684
02:39:10,590 --> 02:39:14,040
block ease. What do you mean
they're blocked? The blog

2685
02:39:14,040 --> 02:39:14,190
they're

2686
02:39:14,190 --> 02:39:15,780
John C Dvorak: not there. The
number of people that are

2687
02:39:15,780 --> 02:39:19,920
blocked are very, you know, half
of these people they claim

2688
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:21,510
they're blocked they're not
blocked,

2689
02:39:21,570 --> 02:39:23,010
Adam Curry: then what are they
talking about?

2690
02:39:23,130 --> 02:39:26,610
John C Dvorak: I have no idea I
know I know your spam if you

2691
02:39:26,610 --> 02:39:31,740
Adam Curry: say if you put the
word ass even douchebag may get

2692
02:39:31,740 --> 02:39:36,240
kicked back here's your filters
there are really tight. This

2693
02:39:36,240 --> 02:39:40,230
tighten and Mike Rochus your
filters are so sure that you're

2694
02:39:40,590 --> 02:39:43,830
so tight. Anyway, I would like
to know I think y'all should

2695
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:48,480
start a club hashtag the block
ease on no agenda social hashtag

2696
02:39:48,480 --> 02:39:52,980
the block E's and post a
screenshot with the error

2697
02:39:52,980 --> 02:39:55,380
message that shows that you are
blocked it doesn't count if you

2698
02:39:55,380 --> 02:39:59,490
use it lewd or lascivious
language. And now for the meetup

2699
02:39:59,490 --> 02:40:04,380
report from Brooklyn. I expected
no less but a full on dynamite

2700
02:40:04,410 --> 02:40:10,200
in your face report. Now we're
getting people from all over the

2701
02:40:10,200 --> 02:40:15,930
globe coming to New York City.
This issue will destroy New York

2702
02:40:15,930 --> 02:40:19,710
City. This is Gitmo nation's
favorite shape systems. You

2703
02:40:19,710 --> 02:40:22,500
correct the record passing the
phone around sir spoon maker

2704
02:40:22,500 --> 02:40:26,100
here. Trains good. Cleans bad.

2705
02:40:26,160 --> 02:40:28,590
Unknown: This is so boring for
the web five in the morning.

2706
02:40:29,220 --> 02:40:33,030
Mica rock and roll from the
Brooklyn meetups great time.

2707
02:40:33,060 --> 02:40:36,150
Everyone's super chill. In New
York. We need more weirdos

2708
02:40:36,330 --> 02:40:39,810
destroy New York City's 17 year
anniversary cut the beat up

2709
02:40:39,810 --> 02:40:43,440
shortly. We never had a fight.
It was

2710
02:40:43,440 --> 02:40:48,570
David from Brooklyn in the
morning. Fergus 33 here. Pretty

2711
02:40:49,260 --> 02:40:54,060
cool maker. Says Dan from New
Jersey in the morning. Hi this

2712
02:40:54,060 --> 02:40:57,960
experiment they weren't the only
dudes here. Hi, this is Tanya

2713
02:40:57,960 --> 02:41:01,830
I'm trapped in a 10 to the 13
strange men. I now know how it

2714
02:41:01,830 --> 02:41:05,550
feels to get banned from the
city we knew

2715
02:41:06,690 --> 02:41:07,890
without to lose.

2716
02:41:09,450 --> 02:41:11,970
Adam Curry: Thank you, Brooklyn.
Brooklyn does not disappoint.

2717
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:16,230
Love that. Meetup is taking
place today. The X s the SXM

2718
02:41:16,230 --> 02:41:20,730
salt and soda water meetup that
is underway now. Oh yes. St.

2719
02:41:20,730 --> 02:41:24,120
Martin is probably underway now
a tonne of Fat Tony Smokehouse

2720
02:41:24,300 --> 02:41:27,300
Sen report. People want to know
how that went. We have long

2721
02:41:27,300 --> 02:41:31,110
views. Lively laugh loaded mid
mouth, mid month monthly meet

2722
02:41:31,110 --> 02:41:35,910
up. Thanks. That'll be in
Longview, Texas. Just started 20

2723
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:38,940
minutes ago Rotolo is pizzeria
you can still make it on

2724
02:41:38,940 --> 02:41:43,020
Wednesday, the London Christmas
party, five o'clock at Norfolk

2725
02:41:43,020 --> 02:41:47,310
arms and London. We Gigi is
hosting that send a report I

2726
02:41:47,310 --> 02:41:50,130
want to hear how our London
producers are doing and the next

2727
02:41:50,130 --> 02:41:53,220
show day Thursday calling on
North Georgia slave six o'clock

2728
02:41:53,220 --> 02:41:57,330
at Cherry Street brewing in
Alpharetta, Georgia. And also on

2729
02:41:57,330 --> 02:42:00,840
Thursday, Lee Charlotte thirsty
Third Thursday seven o'clock at

2730
02:42:00,840 --> 02:42:04,020
edge Tavern in Charlotte, North
Carolina. There's many more on

2731
02:42:04,020 --> 02:42:08,190
the list including Sofia,
Bulgaria, Lombok, which is next

2732
02:42:08,190 --> 02:42:13,080
to Bali in Indonesia. Tortola
Tortola Virgin Islands the

2733
02:42:13,080 --> 02:42:18,060
British Virgin Islands. Disease
some Texas Albany California

2734
02:42:18,270 --> 02:42:21,870
February 3 That's the good JC do
the house meet up there's plenty

2735
02:42:21,870 --> 02:42:25,110
more all you need to do is go to
no agenda meetups.com Thank you

2736
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:28,620
sir Daniel, for your time and
talent on keeping that website

2737
02:42:28,650 --> 02:42:32,940
up and running. It's so good.
It's so efficient for people to

2738
02:42:32,940 --> 02:42:37,320
organize meetups and everybody
is welcome everybody is welcome

2739
02:42:37,350 --> 02:42:41,040
at a no agenda meet up go ahead
say hi to some people you'll be

2740
02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:44,010
surprised you'll love it is like
eating potato chips you can't

2741
02:42:44,010 --> 02:42:47,070
stop once you do a no agenda
meetup.com If you can't find one

2742
02:42:47,070 --> 02:42:50,670
near you start one yourself it's
easy sometimes

2743
02:42:50,670 --> 02:42:59,790
Unknown: you go hang out with
Tyson day you won't be triggered

2744
02:43:03,420 --> 02:43:09,720
everybody feels the same it's
like a body

2745
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:12,990
Adam Curry: like a pot. I'm
gonna have to do my ISOs first

2746
02:43:12,990 --> 02:43:19,770
I'm over I sewed over it Yeah
Have I got too many too many got

2747
02:43:19,770 --> 02:43:28,290
I'm over I so I'm over it hit it
alright cute Yes. Cute is

2748
02:43:28,290 --> 02:43:29,310
exactly the right term.

2749
02:43:29,730 --> 02:43:31,110
John C Dvorak: Amaze estar ass

2750
02:43:31,260 --> 02:43:38,520
Adam Curry: okay right right yes
loved it. Hmm we'll sell so deja

2751
02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:47,220
vu I kind of like that one. And
I hate this I have that I think

2752
02:43:47,220 --> 02:43:53,070
the best is a feel show deja vu.
We like that one. Deja vu. Deja

2753
02:43:53,070 --> 02:43:53,310
vu?

2754
02:43:54,330 --> 02:43:57,240
John C Dvorak: Because it is
kind of different. Mine are more

2755
02:43:57,240 --> 02:44:01,410
direct. Okay. I mean they're
designed to actually be used.

2756
02:44:01,710 --> 02:44:02,760
Adam Curry: Oh please.

2757
02:44:03,330 --> 02:44:05,370
John C Dvorak: I saw the start
with good podcast

2758
02:44:05,370 --> 02:44:07,290
Unknown: is so good. As

2759
02:44:07,290 --> 02:44:11,640
Adam Curry: you say podcast is
so good. Yeah. That again,

2760
02:44:11,850 --> 02:44:17,040
little muddy is too bad with his
little money podcast is so good.

2761
02:44:19,500 --> 02:44:21,780
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's good
laughs and giggles and everyone

2762
02:44:21,780 --> 02:44:23,370
laughs and everyone giggles

2763
02:44:23,400 --> 02:44:26,160
Adam Curry: Okay, that's a good
one. I like that one. Yes, I

2764
02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:26,640
like it

2765
02:44:26,670 --> 02:44:29,340
John C Dvorak: and then the one
that's the obvious one is the is

2766
02:44:29,340 --> 02:44:33,630
the good job. Wow, good job.

2767
02:44:35,190 --> 02:44:38,940
Adam Curry: We have a winner. We
have a winner we have a winner.

2768
02:44:39,540 --> 02:44:43,950
I hope you don't mind but I
think I have the story today

2769
02:44:47,550 --> 02:44:49,110
John C Dvorak: we're going to
have a good eat have a good

2770
02:44:49,110 --> 02:44:49,680
story yeah

2771
02:44:49,680 --> 02:44:52,230
Adam Curry: good news. So I
think I have one I think I have

2772
02:44:52,230 --> 02:44:53,130
a good well we can do a

2773
02:44:53,130 --> 02:44:55,260
John C Dvorak: good news stories
showdown. I don't know if you're

2774
02:44:55,260 --> 02:44:58,050
gonna beat mine because mine is
a tear jerker.

2775
02:44:59,490 --> 02:45:02,340
Adam Curry: News everyone all
right, we'll start with mine. We

2776
02:45:02,340 --> 02:45:03,210
go to Nashville.

2777
02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:05,940
Unknown: This is what's left of
the room where Sydney Moore was

2778
02:45:05,940 --> 02:45:08,610
laying on top of her one year
old shielding him from the

2779
02:45:08,610 --> 02:45:12,570
tornado. As her four month old
baby got sucked away, and her

2780
02:45:12,570 --> 02:45:16,020
mobile home, demolished,
towering over the rubble of her

2781
02:45:16,020 --> 02:45:19,830
mobile home and shadowing her
crushed car. Sydney's kids play

2782
02:45:19,830 --> 02:45:23,700
pin is wrapped around a tree, a
jarring reminder of how easily

2783
02:45:23,700 --> 02:45:27,540
the tornado tossed their four
month old baby to the wind. The

2784
02:45:27,540 --> 02:45:28,140
roof came

2785
02:45:28,140 --> 02:45:30,720
off first, the tip of the
tornado came down and picked up

2786
02:45:30,870 --> 02:45:33,720
the bassinet with my baby Lord
in it. And he was the first

2787
02:45:33,720 --> 02:45:34,560
thing to go up

2788
02:45:34,770 --> 02:45:37,290
in his attempt to keep the
bassinet inside her boyfriend

2789
02:45:37,290 --> 02:45:40,710
and father of her children was
sucked up with it. Mom same time

2790
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:44,010
in the back bedroom, needs to
move her body on top of their

2791
02:45:44,010 --> 02:45:46,620
one year old son shielding him.
Literally

2792
02:45:46,650 --> 02:45:49,890
the moment I jumped on him. The
walls collapsed. I was being

2793
02:45:49,890 --> 02:45:52,140
really crushed. Like I couldn't
breathe.

2794
02:45:52,170 --> 02:45:54,150
The couple frantically searched
through the rubble in the

2795
02:45:54,150 --> 02:45:56,130
pouring rain for the infant. I

2796
02:45:56,130 --> 02:45:59,010
thought he was dead. Pretty sure
he was dead and we weren't gonna

2797
02:45:59,010 --> 02:46:00,690
be able find him. Then

2798
02:46:00,870 --> 02:46:05,400
a miracle they found baby Lord
alive with just a cut on his

2799
02:46:05,400 --> 02:46:06,000
face.

2800
02:46:06,180 --> 02:46:10,680
And it looks like a little tree
cradle. It was just laying

2801
02:46:10,680 --> 02:46:11,040
there.

2802
02:46:11,340 --> 02:46:15,960
The entire family survived. Now
as she walks back down to where

2803
02:46:15,960 --> 02:46:19,320
her home used to be pulling it
off Sydney's recalling how she

2804
02:46:19,320 --> 02:46:23,160
thought this would never happen
to her family. Everything could

2805
02:46:23,160 --> 02:46:26,670
be taken like that. The kids
that she risked her life to save

2806
02:46:26,730 --> 02:46:29,640
sleeping peacefully tonight.
Like

2807
02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:33,210
those those kids are what saved
me. They saved me from

2808
02:46:33,210 --> 02:46:35,490
everything. And I don't know
what I would have done without

2809
02:46:35,490 --> 02:46:36,480
them. Okay,

2810
02:46:36,510 --> 02:46:40,500
Adam Curry: I think when you
have a story of a baby getting

2811
02:46:40,500 --> 02:46:44,550
sucked up by a tornado. Yeah,
the dad getting sucked up by the

2812
02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:45,780
tornado. What

2813
02:46:45,780 --> 02:46:47,820
John C Dvorak: happened to him
by the way he end up in a tree

2814
02:46:47,820 --> 02:46:50,160
we didn't have hurt we knew know
the baby did.

2815
02:46:50,520 --> 02:46:55,530
Adam Curry: The kid's name is
Lord. I mean, this has good news

2816
02:46:55,560 --> 02:46:58,950
written all over and it was one
minute and 30 seconds.

2817
02:46:59,070 --> 02:47:01,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I
like to time mines too long. But

2818
02:47:01,980 --> 02:47:06,870
mine is more of a tree. It also
it not only has good news

2819
02:47:06,870 --> 02:47:11,520
written all over it, it has
books written all over it. It

2820
02:47:11,520 --> 02:47:16,200
wouldn't have said that baby
with the Lord in there. That was

2821
02:47:16,200 --> 02:47:19,230
the that was the me checkmark,
folks.

2822
02:47:21,990 --> 02:47:25,770
Unknown: When do we want it? Now
please get in in the crevices of

2823
02:47:25,770 --> 02:47:29,790
a canyon county Ridge, a missing
woman's life was left up to

2824
02:47:29,790 --> 02:47:33,210
Eddie. Now we're doing this and
chase. It's crazy. We're

2825
02:47:33,210 --> 02:47:35,070
partners and hunters.

2826
02:47:35,100 --> 02:47:38,010
We don't come out here in the
winter. There's no reason for us

2827
02:47:38,010 --> 02:47:41,010
to asides to look. And they
couldn't believe what there's a

2828
02:47:41,010 --> 02:47:44,730
car down here or who right down
in the little crevice aid found

2829
02:47:44,730 --> 02:47:48,000
in the corner in the tumbleweeds
and we climbed down a little

2830
02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:50,070
investigation in the car and
that's when we found pennies

2831
02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:54,600
information. I put pennies named
Penny say Clark in on Facebook,

2832
02:47:54,690 --> 02:47:56,160
and that's when it popped up. A

2833
02:47:56,160 --> 02:48:00,630
72 year old woman having no
recent contact with her family

2834
02:48:00,630 --> 02:48:04,200
Canyon County Sheriff Karen
Donohue had already been looking

2835
02:48:04,200 --> 02:48:04,680
for pen

2836
02:48:04,710 --> 02:48:07,230
no one would have looked here.
Really there's just there's been

2837
02:48:07,230 --> 02:48:07,650
no reason to

2838
02:48:07,650 --> 02:48:10,770
look here. No reason to be there
at all. So we

2839
02:48:10,770 --> 02:48:15,150
were I mean out under those
clouds. And we decided to just

2840
02:48:15,150 --> 02:48:18,720
make a random turn and get out
come back out this way. And this

2841
02:48:18,720 --> 02:48:19,590
is where we ended up

2842
02:48:19,620 --> 02:48:24,270
Eddie and chase called 911
explaining the car, the crash

2843
02:48:24,450 --> 02:48:25,140
the scene

2844
02:48:25,170 --> 02:48:27,870
and then one of the officers
looks past the car with a

2845
02:48:27,870 --> 02:48:32,790
binoculars and sees part of her
and sees her moving her

2846
02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:35,010
extremities you know me and
chase her in the truck filling

2847
02:48:35,010 --> 02:48:39,240
out reports and one of the cops
yelled Penny Good

2848
02:48:39,240 --> 02:48:42,540
Lord, not only have we found
her, she's still alive. With

2849
02:48:42,540 --> 02:48:42,780
help

2850
02:48:42,780 --> 02:48:46,020
from Idaho mountain search and
rescue. They tracked penny off

2851
02:48:46,020 --> 02:48:49,560
the ridge and flew her to a
nearby hospital.

2852
02:48:51,630 --> 02:48:55,440
No broken bones. You know, she
was just cold, hungry and tired.

2853
02:48:55,710 --> 02:48:59,850
And I can't I can't say enough
what a miracle that is. You

2854
02:48:59,850 --> 02:49:00,090
know,

2855
02:49:00,240 --> 02:49:05,340
in my experience, this is a less
than 1% chance of surviving this

2856
02:49:05,370 --> 02:49:06,420
God had a different plan.

2857
02:49:06,600 --> 02:49:10,260
Multiple agencies coordinated
the rescue. But the highest

2858
02:49:10,260 --> 02:49:13,530
ranking law enforcement officer
in the county knows where to

2859
02:49:13,530 --> 02:49:16,650
direct praise. They're the true
heroes here. They really are.

2860
02:49:17,040 --> 02:49:20,040
They're the ones that saved this
woman's life but Eddie and chase

2861
02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:23,640
and just they don't need the
credit. I don't know kind of

2862
02:49:23,640 --> 02:49:24,420
lost for words.

2863
02:49:24,960 --> 02:49:27,480
They already got the payment of
a lifetime

2864
02:49:27,540 --> 02:49:32,160
and pennies daughter arrived on
scene when Penny got down to the

2865
02:49:32,160 --> 02:49:35,610
ambulance. She said I never
thought listening to my mom

2866
02:49:35,610 --> 02:49:40,320
snore in a hospital bed would be
the best Christmas present you

2867
02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:44,220
know to receive and I hope your
Christmas is just as as

2868
02:49:44,220 --> 02:49:46,290
specialists this it really hit
home.

2869
02:49:46,800 --> 02:49:49,170
Adam Curry: Alright you get a
point for the Christmas message.

2870
02:49:49,770 --> 02:49:54,330
The length is too long is
disqualified. I disqualified

2871
02:49:54,360 --> 02:49:57,540
disqualifies. I have to like

2872
02:49:57,810 --> 02:50:01,170
John C Dvorak: I it was 240 I
couldn't Cut in a I tried to get

2873
02:50:01,170 --> 02:50:07,110
under two it was it was long but
it had it flowed so well. With

2874
02:50:07,110 --> 02:50:10,530
this last penny the doofus is
yes,

2875
02:50:10,560 --> 02:50:13,440
Adam Curry: this is a hoax that
just happen to be out there. Oh,

2876
02:50:13,530 --> 02:50:15,060
Unknown: they're high horses.
Oh,

2877
02:50:15,120 --> 02:50:18,090
Adam Curry: they're hiking with
a helicopter. Sure. Yeah, that's

2878
02:50:18,090 --> 02:50:21,660
what I do. Oh, let's hop on the
chopper. It's a just 72 What

2879
02:50:21,660 --> 02:50:25,230
you're not dead at 72 Like, oh,

2880
02:50:26,880 --> 02:50:31,950
John C Dvorak: you can we will
just call it a draw. Oh, no. The

2881
02:50:31,950 --> 02:50:32,460
wind from

2882
02:50:34,170 --> 02:50:40,890
Unknown: from JCD happy vibes
for you and me and we all feel

2883
02:50:40,890 --> 02:50:45,600
better. Now he's done his bit.
To back to reality. That's

2884
02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:48,630
turning to shit. Alright,

2885
02:50:48,660 --> 02:50:51,360
Adam Curry: we'll call it no
winner. No winner, although I

2886
02:50:51,360 --> 02:50:55,170
think getting sucked up by a
tornado, your kids name and if

2887
02:50:55,170 --> 02:50:58,710
they had thrown a Christmas vibe
in there, like just in time for

2888
02:50:58,710 --> 02:51:03,150
Christmas, baby Lord is safe.
That would have been a winner. I

2889
02:51:03,150 --> 02:51:04,890
mean, there's just there's no
two ways about it.

2890
02:51:08,610 --> 02:51:11,820
John C Dvorak: I reserve
judgment on the sucked up by a

2891
02:51:11,820 --> 02:51:16,110
tornado story. Do you? Do you
have a husband too? I guess.

2892
02:51:16,290 --> 02:51:17,220
There you go. We didn't

2893
02:51:17,220 --> 02:51:18,510
Adam Curry: we never heard from
him again.

2894
02:51:18,900 --> 02:51:22,050
John C Dvorak: He's still in a
visit. If you guys if

2895
02:51:22,050 --> 02:51:26,430
Adam Curry: he would happen
there. Let's see. We probably

2896
02:51:26,430 --> 02:51:26,640
should.

2897
02:51:26,850 --> 02:51:28,470
John C Dvorak: By the way, you
know people who've ever been

2898
02:51:28,470 --> 02:51:31,770
used in a tornado where they've
been actually outside. Basic.

2899
02:51:32,790 --> 02:51:37,410
They've all reported kind of the
same thing. You are head to toe

2900
02:51:37,410 --> 02:51:40,260
covered with splinters. Yeah,

2901
02:51:40,290 --> 02:51:43,080
Adam Curry: it could be Yeah.
Well, baby Lord only had a

2902
02:51:43,080 --> 02:51:44,220
scratch some

2903
02:51:44,220 --> 02:51:47,100
John C Dvorak: alias scratches.
Another thing that bothers me.

2904
02:51:48,390 --> 02:51:52,650
Adam Curry: I have two AI clips
if you want we could end with or

2905
02:51:52,650 --> 02:51:55,410
do you have something that you'd
like to end with? No,

2906
02:51:55,410 --> 02:51:57,450
John C Dvorak: I guess this
stuff can be moved. I don't have

2907
02:51:57,450 --> 02:52:00,600
anything that's critical. If AI
is great. We haven't talked

2908
02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:02,040
about AI for weeks.

2909
02:52:03,420 --> 02:52:09,780
Adam Curry: Chow was missing my
AI stories. Well, this was on

2910
02:52:09,780 --> 02:52:16,830
CNN, it was rather peculiar.
Because they're anti AI.

2911
02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:21,300
John C Dvorak: I don't really
well, they should be with

2912
02:52:21,300 --> 02:52:24,900
channel one.ai. coming down the
pike. Maybe

2913
02:52:24,900 --> 02:52:27,870
Adam Curry: that's why they did
this particular story. AI

2914
02:52:27,960 --> 02:52:30,180
Unknown: is the life work of
Georgia Tech professor and

2915
02:52:30,180 --> 02:52:31,740
researcher, Matthew Gambale.

2916
02:52:31,800 --> 02:52:35,010
It's not ready for deployment.
It's not a product yet.

2917
02:52:35,130 --> 02:52:37,890
So do you think it should be
used by police departments?

2918
02:52:38,070 --> 02:52:41,190
Certainly not. A report by
Georgetown Law estimates that as

2919
02:52:41,190 --> 02:52:44,880
of 2016, one in two American
adults is in a law enforcement

2920
02:52:44,880 --> 02:52:48,120
face recognition network. And it
can happen without your consent

2921
02:52:48,120 --> 02:52:49,200
or knowledge. This

2922
02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:52,320
technology is not accurate for
the way it's being used. When

2923
02:52:52,320 --> 02:52:58,260
you ask a question. Like, is
this person's face match up with

2924
02:52:58,260 --> 02:53:03,780
a fugitive? You can have a 99.7%
accuracy rate. It's really good.

2925
02:53:03,780 --> 02:53:08,550
Sounds really good. But what if
you ask that same question 300

2926
02:53:08,550 --> 02:53:11,640
million times you deploy these
things at scale at a population

2927
02:53:11,640 --> 02:53:14,310
level, you're going to get a
tremendous number of false

2928
02:53:14,310 --> 02:53:15,090
positives.

2929
02:53:15,210 --> 02:53:18,210
Depending on your race that
accuracy drops even more at

2930
02:53:18,210 --> 02:53:22,140
2019. US government study of 200
facial recognition algorithms

2931
02:53:22,320 --> 02:53:25,710
found some of them up to 100
times more likely to miss

2932
02:53:25,710 --> 02:53:28,440
identify people of color
compared to white people

2933
02:53:28,650 --> 02:53:33,060
gambling. To the test, we will
see what happens. Wait using

2934
02:53:33,060 --> 02:53:36,570
pictures of CNN journalists,
these Georgia Tech researchers

2935
02:53:36,600 --> 02:53:40,680
he created a virtual lineup and
told the AI to identify my face

2936
02:53:40,740 --> 02:53:40,980
get

2937
02:53:40,980 --> 02:53:45,000
works about some of the time
though it says no face. Like

2938
02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:47,220
here, just thought that you were
Victor Blackwell.

2939
02:53:47,430 --> 02:53:50,520
I thought that I was Victor
Blackwell. Yes. Victor Blackwell

2940
02:53:50,520 --> 02:53:51,900
is a black man. Yes.

2941
02:53:51,930 --> 02:53:54,540
What does that say that says
that these algorithms are not

2942
02:53:54,540 --> 02:53:55,590
ready for primetime.

2943
02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:59,610
And building the algorithm. You
can teach the AI to be

2944
02:53:59,610 --> 02:54:02,670
racist. Yes, you can absolutely
teach the algorithms to be

2945
02:54:02,670 --> 02:54:05,580
racist, the algorithm doesn't
care. The algorithm just wants

2946
02:54:05,580 --> 02:54:09,060
to do a good job at the task
you've given it. And in this

2947
02:54:09,060 --> 02:54:12,630
case, you're telling it that if
you're black, you're more likely

2948
02:54:12,750 --> 02:54:14,220
to have committed the crimes.

2949
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:15,480
That's the data that you

2950
02:54:15,480 --> 02:54:18,060
Adam Curry: fit in. That's the
part that I liked about the

2951
02:54:18,060 --> 02:54:22,020
store. What bull crap versus
bull crap. There's like, you can

2952
02:54:22,020 --> 02:54:26,670
teach the AI to be racist. Oh,
yeah. So it showed a black man

2953
02:54:26,670 --> 02:54:30,720
because he's more likely to have
committed the crime. I mean, I'm

2954
02:54:30,720 --> 02:54:33,780
anti AI, but even I'm not buying
that bullcrap.

2955
02:54:34,110 --> 02:54:36,660
John C Dvorak: No, this is bad.
That was a bad report.

2956
02:54:36,960 --> 02:54:39,930
Adam Curry: It was a great
report. You're talking about

2957
02:54:40,680 --> 02:54:45,180
shows that this is all book.
Okay. All right. All right. Do

2958
02:54:45,180 --> 02:54:46,110
you have anything better?

2959
02:54:46,260 --> 02:54:48,390
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
this. I mean, I went through

2960
02:54:48,390 --> 02:54:54,690
these facial recognition systems
years ago. 12 years ago. It's

2961
02:54:54,690 --> 02:54:58,320
not even AI. They weren't great
and had nothing to do with AI.

2962
02:54:58,350 --> 02:54:59,430
No, they don't

2963
02:55:00,690 --> 02:55:04,350
Adam Curry: I got someone
telling me AI can't do math

2964
02:55:04,350 --> 02:55:07,980
because it's a large language
model. Well, dude, someone needs

2965
02:55:07,980 --> 02:55:10,710
to work on the marketing because
these things are being sold as

2966
02:55:10,710 --> 02:55:14,340
the next best thing since sliced
bread. And they're not AI

2967
02:55:14,340 --> 02:55:18,630
winters come in. It's come in,
just

2968
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:20,880
John C Dvorak: stick to your
thesis as good AI

2969
02:55:20,880 --> 02:55:23,970
Adam Curry: Winter is Coming
billions of dollars. It's next

2970
02:55:23,970 --> 02:55:28,530
up. We all know what it's going
to be. Quantum Computing.

2971
02:55:28,890 --> 02:55:30,780
John C Dvorak: It happened
before quantum computing is a

2972
02:55:30,780 --> 02:55:32,040
dead end. Yeah, well,

2973
02:55:32,070 --> 02:55:34,440
Adam Curry: they need something
to prop up the stock market.

2974
02:55:35,850 --> 02:55:39,630
Coming up next. I know AGENDA
stream.com We have oh, the

2975
02:55:39,630 --> 02:55:42,570
airline pilot guide. They
haven't heard from him in a

2976
02:55:42,570 --> 02:55:43,050
while.

2977
02:55:43,560 --> 02:55:44,880
John C Dvorak: That's good.
That's a good show.

2978
02:55:44,910 --> 02:55:46,950
Adam Curry: That was a very good
show. It's one of the better

2979
02:55:46,950 --> 02:55:50,610
aviation podcasts out there and
you get your troll room.io You

2980
02:55:50,610 --> 02:55:53,490
can listen in use the monitor
podcast app as well. I have a

2981
02:55:53,490 --> 02:55:58,440
Christmas end of show mix for
you. You'll love it. We have

2982
02:55:59,100 --> 02:56:01,410
John C Dvorak: Leon the indie
show mix, which you played

2983
02:56:01,410 --> 02:56:02,610
earlier is dynamite.

2984
02:56:02,700 --> 02:56:06,450
Adam Curry: We have Sir Chris
Wilson and Maddie j and this

2985
02:56:06,450 --> 02:56:10,260
will get you in the mood for
Christmas. I guarantee you.

2986
02:56:11,310 --> 02:56:14,970
Coming to you from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country in FEMA

2987
02:56:14,970 --> 02:56:18,210
Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

2988
02:56:18,210 --> 02:56:19,230
curry. And

2989
02:56:19,230 --> 02:56:20,970
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's

2990
02:56:20,970 --> 02:56:24,480
raining. It's about time I'm
John C. Dvorak.

2991
02:56:24,630 --> 02:56:28,260
Adam Curry: We return on
Thursday, which will be the 21st

2992
02:56:28,260 --> 02:56:31,170
countdown to Christmas. We'll be
working on Christmas Eve as

2993
02:56:31,170 --> 02:56:34,680
well. We love it. It's what we
do time talent treasure remember

2994
02:56:34,680 --> 02:56:39,150
us at the vortech.org/na until
Thursday, everybody adios mofos

2995
02:56:39,180 --> 02:56:40,560
who we who we end such

2996
02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:45,060
Unknown: a debate about the
gender of Santa Claus has now

2997
02:56:45,060 --> 02:56:48,000
broke out on Facebook after and
mother in England because she

2998
02:56:48,000 --> 02:56:51,900
had been shamed for not using a
gender neutral name for Santa

2999
02:56:51,900 --> 02:56:55,620
Claus. And the mother claimed in
the viral post that she had been

3000
02:56:55,620 --> 02:56:59,190
attacked for using the name
Father Christmas to describe the

3001
02:56:59,190 --> 02:57:00,090
bearded character.

3002
02:57:01,500 --> 02:57:04,380
This caused everybody in the
Facebook group to completely

3003
02:57:04,410 --> 02:57:09,360
erupt and explode on her. How
dare you refer to Santa Claus as

3004
02:57:09,360 --> 02:57:14,220
Father Christmas? Because they
think a big fat man with a long

3005
02:57:14,220 --> 02:57:19,140
white curly beard might be a
chick. They might want to date

3006
02:57:19,140 --> 02:57:19,770
that chick

3007
02:57:21,480 --> 02:57:34,170
stole my childhood Christmas
Christmas Christmas person

3008
02:57:34,170 --> 02:57:37,710
Christmas I thought they're
suggesting but he's a bloke and

3009
02:57:37,710 --> 02:57:40,320
what are we gonna do with Mother
Nature? Father

3010
02:57:40,320 --> 02:57:45,630
Adam Curry: Time it needs work I
have to go

3011
02:57:50,790 --> 02:57:56,490
Unknown: to no agenda donate to
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3012
02:57:56,490 --> 02:58:00,450
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3013
02:58:00,450 --> 02:58:12,840
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3014
02:58:12,840 --> 02:58:15,600
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3015
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:20,790
That's right. Your no agenda
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3016
02:58:20,790 --> 02:58:25,170
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02:58:25,170 --> 02:58:31,200
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02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:32,370
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3019
02:58:39,750 --> 02:58:46,530
Comes now the big hand.
Christmas 1941. The weeks after

3020
02:58:46,530 --> 02:58:50,430
Pearl Harbor, Franklin Delano
Roosevelt hosted at Churchill in

3021
02:58:50,430 --> 02:58:54,420
this White House. Together they
plan the most travel year of

3022
02:58:54,420 --> 02:58:59,250
yours. Near the assassination
and ride of war and chaos. Still

3023
02:58:59,250 --> 02:59:04,470
today in our own time, our own
life. So this Christmas, let's

3024
02:59:04,470 --> 02:59:09,240
spread low poison. The pandemic
has taken so much from us. Loss

3025
02:59:09,240 --> 02:59:14,580
hope, love, peace and joy. No
face at all. I hope this

3026
02:59:14,580 --> 02:59:18,870
Christmas season marks a fresh
start our nation affected our

3027
02:59:18,870 --> 02:59:22,320
politics has set us against one
another. We see each other as

3028
02:59:22,320 --> 02:59:26,130
enemies not as neighbors as
Democrats or Republicans not as

3029
02:59:26,130 --> 02:59:32,460
fellow Americans. So angry. So
mean so partisan, great pain,

3030
02:59:32,460 --> 02:59:37,470
federal owners all across the
country for a million lives lost

3031
02:59:37,470 --> 02:59:40,920
in America alone. Whether
Christian, Jewish, Hindu,

3032
02:59:41,160 --> 02:59:45,930
Muslim, Buddhist, that's a
million empty chair. You know, I

3033
02:59:45,930 --> 02:59:49,800
believe Christmas is a season of
breaking hearts and homes all

3034
02:59:49,800 --> 02:59:58,650
across the country. Mr. Stone
Mr. Stone Mr. Stone

3035
03:00:05,759 --> 03:00:11,099
Anything that remotely resembles
crack cocaine 30 days without

3036
03:00:11,099 --> 03:00:11,519
sleeping

3037
03:00:12,120 --> 03:00:13,320
Adam Curry: too much.

3038
03:00:18,119 --> 03:00:23,789
Unknown: Chance dodge Hannah is
as low trust China. China is as

3039
03:00:23,789 --> 03:00:29,639
home. China, Walker Christmas,
the United States, the United

3040
03:00:29,639 --> 03:00:36,359
States, Chinese as Oh, China was
the United States,

3041
03:00:36,870 --> 03:00:39,750
the United States, the United
States, the United States, the

3042
03:00:39,750 --> 03:00:40,350
United States.

3043
03:00:41,340 --> 03:00:43,800
Why would I be talking about
Winnie the Pooh so much Winnie

3044
03:00:43,800 --> 03:00:46,620
the Pooh is constantly being
banned in China. And that's

3045
03:00:46,620 --> 03:00:51,420
because the leader Xi Jinping is
very sensitive and he doesn't

3046
03:00:51,420 --> 03:00:54,120
like the fact that people
compare him to Winnie the Pooh,

3047
03:00:54,360 --> 03:00:54,900
China is

3048
03:00:57,030 --> 03:01:03,750
China versus the United States.
The United States. Chinese as

3049
03:01:03,750 --> 03:01:08,340
Oh, China, why is the United
States

3050
03:01:09,060 --> 03:01:11,940
The United States, the United
States, the United States, the

3051
03:01:11,940 --> 03:01:12,540
United States.

3052
03:01:14,910 --> 03:01:20,190
China is as Oh China us as home.

3053
03:01:38,250 --> 03:01:39,660
Adam Curry: Adios MoPhO

3054
03:01:39,690 --> 03:01:46,530
Unknown: boruch.org/in A Wow,

3055
03:01:46,560 --> 03:01:47,490
good job.