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John C Dvorak: comb your hair.
Adam curry Jhansi Devorah

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Adam Curry: 2023 In this short
hoard winning nation media

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Unknown: This is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: outdoors rhythms and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region number six.

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Morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and

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John C Dvorak: familiar Silicon
Valley where everybody's happy

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about Hunter Biden paying his
taxes. I'm John C. Double X.

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Yeah,
yeah, everybody wishes he could

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get hookers and blow and cool
stuff and then pay the taxes.

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The guy's got so much money

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John C Dvorak: as me leave those
taxes or not.

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Adam Curry: I don't know if he
paid his taxes or not.

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John C Dvorak: That's Yes. No.
Did you think you'd know what

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yeah, that's all of Fuster
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Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Is
this a lead up to a three by

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John C Dvorak: But we do have a
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Biden's taxes. That's true.
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Adam Curry: shall we do it?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, might as
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Adam Curry: That was done for
the three by three. Experiment

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by Jesse. Sam. Once again,
parents don't read from ABC, CBS

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and NBC. Jcv brings the
headlines from this morning

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three by three from the big
three networks. And today the

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headlines are are Hunter Biden,
I guess? What do we have?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, Hunter
Biden. They did this apology

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tour by the network's have to
cover up for HUD and Hunter

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Biden as best they can. Oh, no,
but they never give us any real

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facts. It just kind of. It's
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the way, these all seem like
they're produced by the same

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White House. Same Hill and
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identical in the way that in the
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way it ends except for the NBC
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end, but the rest of them are
almost identical. It's called

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the NBC NBC

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Adam Curry: first in the three
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Unknown: President Biden
ignoring questions about the new

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round of legal woes for his son.
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indictment on tax charges from
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Hunter Biden facing the
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prison. The 56 page indictment
saying he failed to pay at least

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$1.4 million dollars in taxes
from 2016 to 2019. spending

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millions of dollars on an
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than paying his tax bills,
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girlfriends, such as $683,000 on
payments to various women, close

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to $400,000 on clothes, and
$188,000 on adult entertainment.

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Adam Curry: Papa Joe please
adopt me.

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Unknown: Hunter Biden said he
was battling addiction. His

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attorney saying he paid back the
taxes and the charges should not

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have been brought wasn't Hunter
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happened. It comes after Weiss's
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Biden, which would have allowed
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apart under a judge's scrutiny.
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Hunter Biden come as the GOP is
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the Biden family, including the
President, with more Republicans

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favoring the Impeachment Inquiry
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John C Dvorak: I will support it
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likely next week.

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Unknown: President Biden has
repeatedly denied that he spoke

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to Hunter about his foreign
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I have never discussed with my
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else. Anything having to do with
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A former Hunter Biden partner
told Congress President Biden

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spoke to their business
associates at least 20 times the

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President was pressed about it
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I did not and especially a bunch
of lies, no

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Adam Curry: lies, lies there
lying about it says lies. I did

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John C Dvorak: always. All the
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top of the hookers. It's

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Adam Curry: interesting. This is
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pay his taxes. So that's

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John C Dvorak: the beginning of
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Adam Curry: he said he did pay
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's what
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his taxes, what's the fuss?
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Adam Curry: fun to say hookers
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hookers is fun. It's
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to like about a report like
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John C Dvorak: Well, for one
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story. Well, if he paid his
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point of all this?

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Adam Curry: Well, okay, how
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John C Dvorak: Did he pay it?
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taxes the payment? Did he pay
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is not a good story? It's not
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Adam Curry: it's doing is it's
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Inquiry, because all we hear is
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John C Dvorak: when we go to
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almost an identical report,
except for the little ditty at

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the end, heading out

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Unknown: of the White House
today, President Biden ignoring

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a barrage of questions about the
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John C Dvorak: Both these all
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way. Biden's ignoring the
questions. Why did these guys

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get together in advance of
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Adam Curry: How about this? How
about this for thought? This is

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a California issue. Am I
correct? I believe this is this

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is this comes out of California
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that one, it's time to get rid
of Joe time to bring in Gavin

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's I'm
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What I'm talking about is the
story itself. They're

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identically structured, all
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reporters talk with each other?
How does this happen? Oh,

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Adam Curry: please.

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John C Dvorak: Let's go with you
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Adam Curry: I wonder. Do you
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think they have the same effect?
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John C Dvorak: don't think
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were presented with the with the
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they just follow the
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Unknown: out of the White House
today. President Biden ignoring

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a barrage of questions about the
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this son Hunter.

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Nine count indictment.

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Adam Curry: There's nothing like
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I love it.

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Adam Curry: That's great. I love
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Unknown: six misdemeanors and
three felony charges accusing

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Hunter Biden of failing to pay
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to 2019. Special Counsel David
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time, Biden was living an
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on drugs, escorts and
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rental properties, exotic cars,
clothing, in short, everything

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but his taxes. Biden allegedly
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on various women, another
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than $180,000 on adult
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appointee kept on by Attorney
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continue the probe has been
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than five years. Through it all.
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behind his Son

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or Son has done nothing wrong.
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Hunter Biden has since paid all
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attorney saying if hunters last
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Biden, the charges would not
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the Special Counsel bow to
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recently recorded podcast heard
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Adam Curry: a podcast podcast,
where's your tea man,

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Unknown: but not have been
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podcast, Hunter Biden,
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to undermine his father's
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continue the campaign.

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They're trying to destroy a
presidency. And so it's not

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about me and their most bass
way. What they're trying to do

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is they're trying to kill me
knowing that it will be a pain

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greater than my father could be
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Adam Curry: Wow, that was an old
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interview that that Hunter thing
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, they
brought it back. Curious how

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that was dropped in the end of
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Adam Curry: Ah, okay. Right.
This whatever happens next.

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Okay. Yes, I think I can back
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Whatever happens next to hunter?
He will kill Joe Biden. Yes,

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this is a setup. This is a setup
to a View to a Kill.

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John C Dvorak: Well, let's go to
CBS. Now CBS which is the WoW

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got a little bit have a little
more on they. They didn't change

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much structures basically the
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just heard from Hunter will be
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same clip will be played on CBS.
And in the CBS report. There's a

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couple of elements that you
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Unknown: White House for
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Adam Curry: There's my favorite
again, President

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Unknown: Biden ignored questions
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misdemeanor tax charges. That 56
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alleged a four year scheme to
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million in federal taxes. Hunter
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counts including tax evasion.
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included I popping details about
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million in cash from ATM
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to various women, and 39,000 for
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care. This is a serious
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Adam Curry: is a follow on
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John C Dvorak: there's the
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there. One. Yeah. That besides
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million dollars in ATM, what
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Adam Curry: How many? If you can
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notes? It's 300. Most unless
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John C Dvorak: Well, you can do
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Adam Curry: the machine. Okay,
how many machines Did he go to?

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John C Dvorak: Well, there's
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they also put in as though it's
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CVS report is totally different.
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identical. They have the woman
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the end time is exactly the
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of there's a couple of twists
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nonsense. And then this
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supposed to be bad? May

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Adam Curry: I add that this is
the pixie girl This is Catherine

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herridge This is the CIA CBS
spokes hole. Why is she doing

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this report?

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Unknown: itself is a good ATM
withdrawals 683,000 in payments

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to various women and 39,000 for
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Adam Curry: Home Health Home
Health What is she saying Home

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John C Dvorak: She said Home
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cleaning whatever that is.

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Unknown: I'm gonna look it up
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cleaning and child care home
health. Serious indictment Tom

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Dupree is a former senior
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This indictment reads like an
accounting ledger of fights and

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the prosecutors spell out in
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Hunter Biden was spending his
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The indictment calls Hunter
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business person and alleges he
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the Ukrainian energy firm
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Adam Curry: hold on a second.
Could this all be to show that

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whatever he did, he didn't send
money. There was no 10% for the

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big guy is that maybe the point
of this? Like, oh, I took money

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out of the ATM a million dollars
but no 10% for the big guy. Look

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at all the money he spent but no
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John C Dvorak: that's a stretch
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it in you so it must trigger in
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CFC and other foreign

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businesses. More charges could
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Hunter Biden's lawyer said based
on the facts in the law. If

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hunters last name was anything
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would not have been brought in a
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indictment. Hunter Biden blamed
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legal trouble. They're

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trying to kill me and knowing
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than my father could be able to
handle. And so therefore destroy

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your presidency in that way.

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Adam Curry: Oh, man. All right,
this three by three. Do you mind

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if I turn it into a four by
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think this is the one Dana Bash,

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Unknown: I want to bring in our
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discuss and Danna bash, I'll

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start with you. You just heard
Hunter Biden before these

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charges actually came out speak
about the toll on him

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and his dad, not just
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impact will this have on
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difficult for the president for
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campaign to try to navigate what
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understandably personal for the
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about the the indictment and the
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allegations, both the new ones
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Delaware. It is about his
addiction. And that was me, Wolf

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listening to Hunter Biden say
they're trying to kill me. He

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doesn't mean that
metaphorically. He means that

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literally here we go because
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argument has been that the
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the reason he spent so much
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almost a million and a half
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things and more is because he
was addicted to very horrible

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drugs to crack. And so what he
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trying to get me to get me off
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my father. And you know, there,
of course, are political reasons

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for this. And he did do things
that were wrong, but from the

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perspective of Hunter Biden from
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not so much that it deserves
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that's why they say that if his
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Biden, that he wouldn't be
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is right now after that plea
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Adam Curry: same script with a
little addition. I have to

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remind you, Danna bash, married
to CIA guy, or a divorce from

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CIA guy. This is your OP, this
is Biden's going to need to

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leave. All his son has to do
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All that takes is another, you
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fresh pictures. And Biden will
lose it and we've all been

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forewarned about it. And incomes
Big Mike 2024. For Gavin Newsom.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can't see
anything else going on here

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because this is too scripted.
All three networks and then you

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put CNN which was kind of a
completely different approach

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but the exact same thing re it
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differently. Exact same product
given to the public, and it

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would go something like he gets
addicted again. The Republicans

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get blamed because they're
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Adam Curry: and and they want
him to fall off the wagon. Biden

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John C Dvorak: has to quit
because his of his family, you

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know, because of his son. He's
got his, you know, got

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Adam Curry: to work out with his
son. It's more important.

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Family's more important. America
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Because we
know family's more important

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than this. And that and so he
looks like the good guy. Yeah.

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Republicans look like the
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Gavin Newsom,

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Adam Curry: incomes Gavin or
whoever this

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John C Dvorak: habit is? Well
doing it the now a couple of

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things. The CBS report never
mentioned that he had paid his

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taxes. That's the one thing they
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not sure why it was in the
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things. It makes it muddy or
whatever the case this

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something's going on with this.
And I have straight reporting on

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this or seemingly so. I think
it's from NTD. And

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Adam Curry: you want to hit you
want here NPR first.

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John C Dvorak: And the MPAA. NPR
might Yeah, because they'll

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still be in the script. And the
NTD guys aren't aren't. As far

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as I know. They're not read into
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seriously by you know, of
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Adam Curry: All right, let's do
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Unknown: What specific charges
is Hunter Biden facing with this

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indictment?

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Well, this is a nine count
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a federal grand jury in the
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The charges are related to tax
years 2016 through 2019. Three

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of the counts that Hunter Biden
is facing here are felony tax

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counts, one for tax evasion. Two
for filing a false return. The

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other six counts are
misdemeanors, and those are for

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failing to pay his taxes and
failing to file his taxes. Okay,

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this all relates to the 2016
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What does the Special Counsel
say that Hunter Biden was doing?

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four years, Hunter engaged in

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its scheme to not pay at least
$1.4 million in taxes that he

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owed. It also says that he
evaded paying taxes for 2018.

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between 2016 and 2020, hunter

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made more than $7 million in
total gross and oil indictment

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references business dealings in
Ukraine. business dealings

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related to Connections Romania
and China really it says that

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Hunter got another $1.2 million
in financial support. But

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prosecutors say that Hunter
spent his money on drugs on

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escorts and girlfriends on
luxury hotels, exotic cars,

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among other things. Prosecutors
say In short, that 100 Biden

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spent his money on his
extravagant lifestyle not on his

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taxes

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Adam Curry: and so I guess
they're saying that he willfully

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didn't pay his taxes that's
although he had the money to

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okay okay. All right now from
this NPR report, different

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takeaway, not read in not part
they have they have the script

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but they took a different tack.
They actually read the

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indictment. The indictment says
he earned $7 million which you

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know, and he spent a mitt over a
million on hookers and blow and

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stuff. Okay, that still leaves a
good five and a half million

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dollars. So the it's ludicrous
to say he spent his money on

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hookers. He had another five and
a half million. This it's

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ridiculous knowing that seems
unimportant. So the three by

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three, including CNN, they are
focusing they're focusing your

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attention on the hookers don't
look at the money from Ukraine

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and China. That's not in their
script. And they add in Jochen

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died any moment or Tikkun, he
has to retire because evil

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Republicans will get Hunter back
off the off the wagon. So this

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is the truth. They buried the
lede. $7 million from from China

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and Ukraine. Hmm. What could be
wrong with that? Yeah, that I

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think is what's really going on.
This is in di D. This is Hunter

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Biden charges. Yeah,

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Unknown: the president's son
Hunter Biden is facing a nine

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count indictment that includes
three felony charges and six

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misdemeanors. The indictment
filed by Special Counsel David

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Weiss on Thursday accuses the
younger Biden of engaging in a

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four year scheme to not pay at
least $1.4 million in federal

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taxes from 2016 to 2019, while
spending millions of dollars on

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an extravagant lifestyle,
according to the indictment, he

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spent his money on drugs,
escorts and girlfriends, luxury

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hotels and rental properties,
exotic cars, clothing and other

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items of a personal nature. It
says in short, everything but

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his taxes. Hunters lavish
spending was at its highest in

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2018, reaching $1.8 million. His
four year spending spree

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included over $600,000 in
payments to various women

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$397,000 on clothes and
accessories and more than

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$180,000 and adult
entertainment. Hunter Biden

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admitted to a crack cocaine
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a day smoking every 15 minutes
seven days a week in 2021. He

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spoke to CBS News about that
experience. I

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spent more time on my hands and
knees, picking through rugs,

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smoking anything that even
remotely resembled crack

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cocaine.

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Special Counsel why says Hunter
Biden made millions of dollars

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from foreign entities including
business dealings in Ukraine,

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Romania and China and that in
2018, he continued to earn

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handsomely and to quote spend
wildly Oh,

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Adam Curry: thank goodness I was
about about to be very

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disappointed in MTD. They put it
in there. Thank you. NTD. For

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again, bearing the lead but it's
in there.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the lead
you're right about during the

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lead scored the second half.
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Unknown: Biden's attorney Abbe
Lowell said Thursday that if

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hunters last name was anything
other than Biden, the charges

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would not have been brought low
accuses Weiss of bowing to

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Republican pressure hunters
business dealings are at the

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center of a house.

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Adam Curry: I got. So part of
the script is if his name was

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anything, anything other than
Biden, no charges would have

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been brought. What if his last
name was Trump? Sorry, sorry,

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Abby Lowell

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Unknown: accused of bowing to
Republicans pressure hunters

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business dealings are at the
center of a house probe into

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President Biden's involvement in
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ventures. Republicans on
Thursday released a resolution

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to further their impeachment
investigation of the elder

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Biden. On Friday, some House
members argued for fast tracking

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the floor vote on the
resolution. In light of the

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recent indictment.
Representative Jason Smith told

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roll call these charges further
confirmed the need for Congress

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to move forward with an
impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden

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in order to uncover all the
facts for the American people to

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judge. House Oversight Committee
Chairman James Comer attributed

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the new charges to the bravery
of two IRS whistleblowers

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bravery. Two agents, Gary
Shapley and Joseph Ziegler

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testified that the Department of
Justice made decisions that

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benefited the president's son.
Comer said the agents put their

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careers on the line to reveal
misconduct and politicization

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during the probe and that the
DOJ got caught in its attempt to

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shield the younger Biden. That's
another lead

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Adam Curry: that was buried
everywhere else, of course.

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John C Dvorak: And there's
another thing that the right

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wingers, the more vert
newscasters have been bringing

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up over and over, which is that
this whole thing is, and I think

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it's maybe suggested by the fact
that if if he already paid his

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taxes, which only two of the
three by three reporters said

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they already pay these taxes,
this could go to court, just

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linger, linger and prevent Biden
from testifying against his

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father and the Colmar committee.
Because he's under this

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indictment he can Do that he
can't do this. He can't go. He

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can't test away.

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Adam Curry: But what Biden can't
testify why? Because

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John C Dvorak: he had to have to
plead the fifth on everything

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because it would have because
he's under, because he's right

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now in the middle of a case
against him. Well, can

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Adam Curry: he just lie? Doesn't
seem to be beyond him at

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John C Dvorak: all. Well, I
think he rather not be grilled.

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Seems like a weak personalities.
Yeah. The idea is to keep him

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out of the out of the comer
committee, investigate or then

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the whole impeachment thing.
Keep him away? As far away as

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you can get him to California.
Yeah. Take a long time on this

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case. Until passed the election.
And then

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Adam Curry: so California is
friendly fire in this case in

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this Yeah. And then

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John C Dvorak: you end up with
the and then at the end of the

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day, they say, Oh, well, you
already paid your taxes. This

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shouldn't have been forgotten in
the first place. Dismiss go

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home, and have a nice day and

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Adam Curry: then get hooked. And
we'll remove your dad later.

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Yeah. I have one. Maybe this

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John C Dvorak: is too this is
just as good as this is

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obviously a scheme.

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Adam Curry: You mean. Are you
telling me that I mean, three

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networks are no good. I'm
shocked that David Axelrod on

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CNN, let me see if this is a
political angle. We'll see if

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there's anything in this. David

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Unknown: Axelrod did the
indictment as Danna just

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pointed, pointed out, a really
does paint a very damning

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indictment of charges against
Hunter Biden damning. How does

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this reflect on the President of
the United States? Just

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Adam Curry: great look,

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Unknown: it does paint a
portrait and a lot of it look

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known already, Wolf, both
through other legal filings and

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what Hunter Biden has said
himself, the story of his

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addiction and some of the
activities that flowed from it

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are very well known. But it's
important to note that it is

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about Hunter Biden, it's not
about Joe Biden. There are a lot

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of people in this country who
have children who have fallen to

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addiction and, and despite years
of effort, there's been no

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success. Why the life

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Adam Curry: why the laughs He
laughs He laughs Oh, I missed

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that. Yeah,

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Unknown: in this country who
have children who have fallen to

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addiction and, and despite two
years of effort,

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Adam Curry: despite years of
effort, well, that was a subtle

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John C Dvorak: one, I wouldn't
call

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Unknown: it there's been no
successful in linking Biden to

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any wrongdoing by Hunter Biden.
So I think this is, as Hunter

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described, as Danna described,
this is an emotional burden for

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the President. And we'll be
going forward. I don't think I

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think people can separate out,
Joe from Hunter. I don't think

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this issue is, is the political
burden that perhaps some hope it

477
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were for the president it's a
very personal burn. Absolutely.

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And I think that's serious.

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Adam Curry: There it is. Hey, if
I'm sorry. I mean, if you're

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President of the United States,
it sucks when your son, you

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know, is back on drugs and, and
back, you know, it's horrible,

482
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because, you know, he's driving
cool cars. He's got hookers. I

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mean, it's horrible. If you
can't handle that what came then

484
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you can't be president. You
can't handle a lot of stuff. The

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I'm sick as a dog, I might want
to point out

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John C Dvorak: Oh, you sound
fine. Until you just mentioned

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it. Now. You can hear your
congest Oh my

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Adam Curry: god. And, and I have
tracked a source. This is from

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the indie meetup. I've gotten
several emails. People are sick.

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Remember, we had that one human
resource? you puked.

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John C Dvorak: All right, right.
You had a puker we had a pure

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Adam Curry: she'll never live
that down. Now a couple of guys,

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and I wanted a couple guys. I
bet Well, I tested I got the Cuf

494
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like don't test. Don't test. I
didn't test it. It's Emily.

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Emily from the meetup. I blame
Emily. She was Typhoid Mary. Was

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Emily the puker. No app. No one
should know Emily. No, the puke

497
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was little kid. No, Emily. She
was in Nashville. She shows up

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there cheap cheap. She even said
so. Because people email me. I

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got the cough to you. You're the
germ barge. You are the germ

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barge. You have to know Emily to
know that this is funny.

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John C Dvorak: She's probably
loving it.

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Adam Curry: I'm sure hope she
is. Speaking of Nashville.

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Everyone that we know in
Nashville is safe. That was a

504
00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:44,130
weird thing last night. You
heard about the tornado that

505
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just ripped through Nashville.
Yeah. Oh man. I mean it in some

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John C Dvorak: weird weather
back there.

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Adam Curry: Very weird. Well,
that my my buddy Dave Jones.

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He's an Alabama and he got a
part of the storm. The hail was

509
00:29:57,390 --> 00:30:01,380
so fierce in Alabama. It
stripped paint off his house

510
00:30:02,939 --> 00:30:05,219
John C Dvorak: that's hailed
that's

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Adam Curry: that's a real hail
there, man. Oh man

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John C Dvorak: he has car in the
garage.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, he has an old
Ford 1930s Ford I don't think ah

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John C Dvorak: you want it out
it looks cool. How'd you do that

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00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,520
man it's looks nice looks good.

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Adam Curry: Here's ABC on the
latest just since we're talking

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about oh by the way, Tina is
sick now to the course. So no

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Sunday school for us. This is
the latest from ABC on on the

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coop

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Unknown: We turn now to the
rising COVID 19 hospitalizations

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with RSV and flu cases also
taking up it comes as holiday

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gatherings get into full swing
ABCs Reena Roy

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is here now with more good
morning Reena

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Ariel Good morning to you. Yeah,
it is that time of year again,

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right a season when we're all
celebrating but also dealing

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with all kinds of illnesses. We
usually hear the numbers go up

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in the fall and winter because
of travel and holiday

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gatherings. And this year, it is
no different. The CDC says 15

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states plus New York City are
experiencing high or very high

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levels of respiratory illness
activity and that

531
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Adam Curry: respiratory illness
activity. What is that

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Unknown: like a ping pong game
of respiratory illness activity.

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00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:18,510
And that means doctors are
seeing more and more people

534
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coming in with things like
fevers and a cough or sore

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throat usually from COVID. The
common cold or the flu RSV is

536
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also on the rise and about half
an increase in flu and COVID

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00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,350
cases. COVID hospitalizations
have reached levels not seen

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since February, particularly
among babies, young children and

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00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,550
older adults. However, they are
lower than rates seen at the

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same time last year. Meanwhile,
health officials are also

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tracking a rising coachees
breathless it's a variant called

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che and why she's

543
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,180
John C Dvorak: hyperventilating
her report she's so jacked about

544
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,430
Unknown: whoever they are lower
than rates seen at the same time

545
00:31:56,430 --> 00:31:59,670
last year. Meanwhile, health
officials are also tracking a

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00:31:59,670 --> 00:32:03,690
rising COVID sub variant called
J and one that's estimated to

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make up more than 20% of cases
around the country. At this

548
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:10,710
time. There is no evidence that
Jn one is more severe than

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previous variant no evidence,
vaccines and treatments are no

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that

551
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,890
Adam Curry: means when there's
no evidence that means is it

552
00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:20,280
there's going to be evidence.
Yes, plenty of it just not now

553
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,950
Unknown: more severe than
previous variants, tests,

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00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:26,310
vaccines and treatments are
still expected to be effective.

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And health officials getting
your shots is the best thing you

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can do. Now is actually a great
time, because it often takes up

557
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to two weeks. Oh

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John C Dvorak: my god, again.

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00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,190
Adam Curry: Like this is only a
one minute 30 shot. I gotta get

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the vaccine promo in their

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Unknown: a great time, because
it often takes up to two weeks

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to reach full protection after a
dose. That is just Christmas.

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Joe.

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That's an important reminder.

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Adam Curry: That's an important
reminder. Yes. Oh man.

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John C Dvorak: I have some
important reminders from PBS on

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COVID. And they did a little
better job of selling the the

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vaccine.

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Unknown: Okay. Just over 15% of
American adults have gotten the

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latest COVID Booster Oh, demand
for the vaccine has dropped

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sharply since it was first
introduced at the height of the

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pandemic. That's partly because
the government's response to

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COVID 19 has been so politically
charged. Woodruff spoke to

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public health experts about that
government response. It's part

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00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:27,870
of her ongoing series America at
a crossroads.

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In March of 2020 many Americans
were united in their fear of the

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new unknown virus as people
grapple with the images of

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00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:42,630
overwhelmed hospitals and death
abroad and in the US, hopefully

579
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it won't be much longer

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but public opinion quickly
splintered as governors issued

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stay at home orders to slow the
spread of the virus

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has to be a choice not a mandate

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00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,590
Adam Curry: it's a choice not a
mandate. Oh, so they're bringing

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00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:05,670
this back. This is interesting
PBS decides now to say that this

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is a political thing.

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John C Dvorak: They go in this
is a whole 15 minutes I gave you

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00:34:13,410 --> 00:34:15,600
the beginning and again I'm
going to tell you what happens.

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00:34:15,810 --> 00:34:19,740
So they go on and on and on and
they break they actually redo

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00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:23,850
the entire pandemic. Fred the
historic the history of edge

590
00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:27,600
what happened here and there and
everywhere in between and and

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00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,300
their concern is of course that
people aren't taking things

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00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,540
seriously enough and a lot of it
has to do the Republicans those

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00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:38,070
lousy Republican horrible and so
red state bring it back around

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00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:41,100
so we make sure that they get
the right promotions in to make

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00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:44,340
sure we get back on track. Well
how we think about the vaccines.

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00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:49,350
It she goes from person to
person to person and then and

597
00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:53,310
then tops it off. And I I know
you'll get it probably.

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Adam Curry: And I guess Can I
guess Trump doesn't end with

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00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,840
Trump. But no, no,

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John C Dvorak: no, no, don't
bring me here. Here's what the

601
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,500
question is. She's gonna bring
on one expert after another who

602
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,850
knows the ropes. And then
finally get to the one guy who's

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going to tell it like it is and
give us the fear mongering we

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00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:12,390
need

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00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:15,990
Adam Curry: Osterholm Of course.
Nope. Oh, that's

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John C Dvorak: good. That's a
good guess. But it's not the

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00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,480
great guests and it's Hotep.
Yep. And

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Unknown: that had deadly
consequences. According to Dr.

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00:35:24,690 --> 00:35:29,070
Peter Hotez of Baylor College of
Medicine, he researched the

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human cost of the resistance to
masks and vaccines. In his new

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00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:37,530
book, The deadly rise of anti
science. The

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00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:42,030
John C Dvorak: big differential
in deaths was very much on

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states where people widely
accepted vaccines and states

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where people did not widely
accept vaccine. My estimate is

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00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:57,450
that 200,000 Americans
needlessly perished. Wow. He's

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got no documentation for
anything other than his his his

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00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,230
work, his his his book. And then
he's got his book. Now. My

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00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:12,450
advice from the curry console, a
dork consulting company, is Hey,

619
00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:18,720
dude, comb your hair. It doesn't
take a genius to comb your hair.

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00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:25,080
Are you married? To dates where
people did not widely accept

621
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,100
vaccines. Once my estimate is
that 200,000 Americans

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needlessly perished because they
refused COVID vaccines after

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vaccines were widely available.
A poll

624
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Unknown: out this September
showed 91% of Democratic voters

625
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had received at least one dose
of the COVID 19 vaccine,

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compared with 66% of Republican
voters and Democrats were far

627
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,760
more likely to get the latest
booster. And multiple studies

628
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,480
show more Republican strongholds
that resisted public health

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measures. And vaccinations fared
worse in terms of infection and

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00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:03,390
mortality rates.

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John C Dvorak: All sets that's a
lie, total lie.

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Adam Curry: There's no evidence
to that. It's a total

633
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,780
John C Dvorak: lie. So they're
basically lying. But they're but

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00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:15,000
they're you have to consider
their audience. They're not

635
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,570
lying to Republicans trying to
get get Republicans off their

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00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:22,620
ass, go get a shot. They're not
doing that. They're lying to the

637
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:27,000
Democrats to assuage them. Don't
worry, you did the right thing.

638
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,470
Get another shot. Oh,

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00:37:28,650 --> 00:37:31,950
Adam Curry: I mean, there's a
lot of this going on. I mean,

640
00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:36,330
there's, there's Friends of the
show in California, who were

641
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:40,800
banned from all social circles.
I'm talking upper upper upper

642
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,450
class social circles, because
they were not jabbed. And now

643
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,210
and now. Like, of course, you
know, they're all back again.

644
00:37:48,210 --> 00:37:55,710
Like, Oh, we didn't know silly
us mopped. I mean, in the drop

645
00:37:55,710 --> 00:37:57,600
and dead, a lot of them.

646
00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:01,320
John C Dvorak: That's kind of
the irony, I guess. So

647
00:38:01,470 --> 00:38:03,510
Adam Curry: no, I was I was
gonna do this later in the show.

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But since we're on the Cuf train
here, Bobby the opp have this

649
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:12,840
speech. It was like 40 minutes.
And it was the he was the

650
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,500
clearest in his speech, which is
why I even considered chopping

651
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:22,770
it up. And he blames everything
on the CIA, which of course,

652
00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:29,220
knowing his background is risky
business. Everything he began he

653
00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:35,940
blatantly he blames the origin
of COVID on the CIA, the Met the

654
00:38:36,060 --> 00:38:41,880
the creation of COVID on the
CIA. I mean, it's it's mind

655
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,610
boggling what he had, and a lot
of this is from his book, and

656
00:38:44,610 --> 00:38:48,180
I'm sure most people haven't
read it. The Fauci book, Fauci

657
00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:52,470
book. But this is very succinct.
And then he goes into the

658
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:56,010
lockdown strategy, and I just, I
needed I need to get this out,

659
00:38:56,010 --> 00:39:00,540
because it's so good. And I pick
it up, because, you know, he

660
00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:05,160
goes way back to, you know, the
bio weapons treaties and how

661
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,020
that was halted under Nixon. And
but and it was basically was

662
00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:13,020
picked up by the CIA. They went,
Oh, yeah, you put these over at

663
00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:17,760
the Pentagon. We can we can
manage the bio weapons. So we

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picked it up when? In September
of 2001.

665
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Unknown: In 2001. In June, the
CIA's sponsors the first of its

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pandemic simulations. It
simulates a biological attack on

667
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:42,810
Washington DC by Saddam Hussein.
This is in June 2001. That

668
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:49,320
simulation got International.
And a lot of the CIA people like

669
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,350
Judith Miller from the New York
Times was promoting it going

670
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:57,390
around doing all the talk shows.
It triggered two Senate

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00:39:57,390 --> 00:40:02,370
hearings, one by Joe Biden's
committee And that hearing was

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00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:09,480
in September 2001. What happened
in September 2001 911. So that

673
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:15,240
hearing was going on during 911.
As soon as 911 happened, the

674
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:19,950
neo-cons which we're working on
all this stuff that CIA, pulled

675
00:40:19,950 --> 00:40:24,210
out the Patriot Act a 350 page
statute from a shelf or had been

676
00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:28,260
waiting for a while. And in one
week said, we want to pass this

677
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:31,800
in a week, there's only one
member of Congress who read it,

678
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,300
which was done a senator. And he
went crazy. And said, You have

679
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:40,710
no idea that the end of American
democracy if you do this, it

680
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:45,030
allows the CIA to spy on
Americans. One of the things the

681
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:49,260
Patriot Act did is it did not
get rid of the Geneva

682
00:40:49,260 --> 00:40:53,520
Convention, or the bio weapons
treaty, but it said no federal

683
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:59,040
official can be prosecuted for
violating those two statutes. So

684
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,130
it reopened the bio weapons arms
race globally.

685
00:41:02,490 --> 00:41:04,770
Adam Curry: So a couple things
we learn here now we understand

686
00:41:04,770 --> 00:41:08,940
why Dennis Kucinich was with him
in the beginning, and probably

687
00:41:09,330 --> 00:41:15,270
the up ended, or RFK, Jr.
starts, you know, targeting the

688
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:20,280
CIA and Cassina. Just like,
dude, I'm out. I like life.

689
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:21,180
Yeah,

690
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:24,540
John C Dvorak: I'm taking a
different angle on it. Okay. I

691
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:27,870
think consensus was there to
brief him and make sure that he

692
00:41:27,870 --> 00:41:31,140
was getting his message on track
on behalf of the sea. On behalf

693
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:36,270
of aspects of the CIA. I'm with
checks. Yeah. Is probably in a

694
00:41:36,270 --> 00:41:42,390
schism of newbies, jerk Goffs,
old timers.

695
00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:48,480
Adam Curry: Binary roles, what
do you call them? binaries non

696
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,740
binary. He's done.

697
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,830
John C Dvorak: Non binaries that
got those guys feminine. Nobody

698
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:57,090
likes. Nobody, like nobody
likes. Like, nobody likes them.

699
00:41:57,450 --> 00:42:00,540
And so there's so so right now
they're trying to do something

700
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:03,360
about it. They can't Kennedy's
part of the scheme to do

701
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,210
something about it by drawing
attention. And he says he's

702
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:09,030
going to reorg the CIS if he
does, that means he's going to

703
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:13,740
reorg back back to the way it
was in the 50s or 60s. Although

704
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:15,720
he had good old, good old

705
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:20,160
Adam Curry: days, old days, when
they anyway, so now, so

706
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,440
John C Dvorak: yeah, because
he's not an idiot. So he's not

707
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,510
really taking a risk. I love

708
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:26,520
Adam Curry: what he's doing
here. And now he's going to take

709
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,690
it to Fort Dietrich.

710
00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:32,670
Unknown: When the week after,
when the Patriot Act was being

711
00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:38,220
debated. And it was being held
up by two senators. It was an

712
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:42,330
anthrax attack on the US
Capitol. It was blamed on Saddam

713
00:42:42,330 --> 00:42:46,080
Hussein, and I don't need
consoles at sea. We were right

714
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,100
in the pandemic simulation,
Saddam Hussein attacked us. And

715
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,310
we use that as a justification
to go to war against Saddam

716
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:58,020
Hussein. And within two days, we
passed the Patriot Act who got

717
00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:03,990
the anthrax to Senate offices.
Tom Dashiell and Patrick Lee,

718
00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:09,000
the two senators who are
blocking the Patriot Act. The

719
00:43:09,090 --> 00:43:14,040
FBI did a one year
investigation. They said this,

720
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,360
Anthrax was unique. It was Ames
anthrax, and there's only one

721
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,800
place in the world to come from
for Diedrich, the CIA lab.

722
00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:27,210
Adam Curry: I love this. I mean,
it's it's all the stuff we've

723
00:43:27,210 --> 00:43:30,360
been saying. But he put it
together in this one beautiful

724
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,040
speech. And now,

725
00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:35,370
John C Dvorak: yes. And he's
more likely to know more than we

726
00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:40,260
do. We go on deep on theories.
And by doing a lot of reading

727
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:44,070
and research, we have no inside
information on any of this. We

728
00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:46,980
have to make sure people realize
that we're just we're just

729
00:43:46,980 --> 00:43:50,670
reading. Yeah, doing what you
know, nobody has time to do when

730
00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:55,530
it's time for it. And he's got
he's got people briefing him

731
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:57,240
he's a part of the system.

732
00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:01,260
Adam Curry: Oh, have a system
for sure. Asa

733
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:05,220
John C Dvorak: stasis. Yeah,
he's got inside stuff that is we

734
00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:08,190
can deduce. But he can no. So

735
00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:13,920
Adam Curry: now 2001 This is
where we bring in Fauci. So

736
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,630
Unknown: we went to war, we pass
the Patriot Act, and immediately

737
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:22,920
started giving $2 billion a year
to bio weapons development. The

738
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,130
Pentagon didn't want to do it
because it was nervous about the

739
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:30,840
legality because it was a death
penalty to violate the Geneva

740
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,010
Convention. Oh, you would have
been committing a you know, a

741
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:40,770
war crime even if somebody told
you it was okay. It wasn't. And

742
00:44:40,770 --> 00:44:45,540
so they funneled it through
Teatre and DARPA, They funneled

743
00:44:45,540 --> 00:44:53,610
all of that money to NIH to Nia
ID which became the primary

744
00:44:53,610 --> 00:44:57,600
spear tip of bio weapons
development. So Tony Fauci

745
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:02,550
became the bio weapons are in
2001. his budget went up by $2.2

746
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:08,130
billion. He was personally given
a 68% raise from the military.

747
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:11,910
That's why he was the highest
paid individual in the federal

748
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:13,170
government. So

749
00:45:13,170 --> 00:45:15,180
Adam Curry: now now he goes
through a whole bunch of stuff,

750
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:18,870
which I didn't clip about, you
know how Fauci did that he the

751
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:22,950
money went through the CIA front
company, which was that that

752
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:27,570
weird organization that funny
enough, Malone came out of?

753
00:45:28,290 --> 00:45:33,330
Yeah, it's like, he was involved
in that. I forget what is it

754
00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:36,030
called. But anyway, doesn't
really matter because you

755
00:45:36,030 --> 00:45:39,600
understand the premise. But
here's where things went wrong,

756
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,690
because they didn't have this
part of the plan set up. And bio

757
00:45:42,690 --> 00:45:44,940
Unknown: weapons development
always includes vaccine

758
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:47,850
development. Because unlike
chemicals

759
00:45:47,850 --> 00:45:50,340
Adam Curry: or eco health, that
was the place eco health that

760
00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:51,990
was the the front company and

761
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:54,540
Unknown: bio weapons development
always includes vaccine

762
00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:58,710
development. Because unlike
chemical weapons, with bio

763
00:45:58,710 --> 00:46:02,070
weapons, there's always blowback
is called the boomerang effect.

764
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,090
If you give your enemy bubonic
plague, your guy's gonna get it

765
00:46:06,090 --> 00:46:11,490
first, too. They're gonna get it
quickly. So the only way you can

766
00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:16,410
deploy a bio weapons if you have
already developed a vaccine, so

767
00:46:16,410 --> 00:46:20,400
the race is to develop a vaccine
simultaneously, weapons and then

768
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,510
you can deploy the bio weapons
and your enemy will take a

769
00:46:24,510 --> 00:46:29,010
couple of years to develop the
vaccine. And you can inoculate

770
00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:30,240
all of your team.

771
00:46:31,350 --> 00:46:34,740
Adam Curry: So clearly, we
didn't have those ready because

772
00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:38,520
you know, the, the virus escaped
I don't think it was a really a

773
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,960
truly weaponized virus, the more
people died of fear of being,

774
00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:47,820
you know, put on a ventilator.
And old people die from flu. So

775
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:50,730
many of the numbers show was not
it was about the same as as a

776
00:46:50,730 --> 00:46:54,660
regular flu year. So it was just
fun for him to connect that but

777
00:46:54,660 --> 00:46:58,020
then, and this is the one that
blew me away, because I had just

778
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,440
mentioned maybe two three weeks
ago, but I felt that social

779
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,690
media was like when a big
Milgram experiment. And then all

780
00:47:06,690 --> 00:47:14,460
of a sudden, Bobby the opp
continues with his CIA breeding

781
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:19,440
of the CIA takes it straight
into MK Ultra, Operation

782
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,750
Paperclip, you know, all the
things that are that were

783
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:24,900
conspiracy theories when we were
talking about him 10 years ago.

784
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,280
And part of the reason Alex
Jones has been thrown off the

785
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,800
media planet, although he seems
to be coming back since this

786
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,470
Tucker interview, which is
interesting. And I'm happy for

787
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:38,730
him. So then he brings in the
Milgram experiments, you know,

788
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:41,880
Unknown: I have I know a lot
about the CIA, I've gotten their

789
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,800
manuals, I paid over $1,000 Just
get these manuals because you

790
00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:50,460
know, their training manuals
from MK Ultra, and they'll

791
00:47:50,460 --> 00:47:54,180
Adam Curry: pay a grand where
are these? eBay? Where can I get

792
00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:56,160
these? That's worth it. Yeah,

793
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,010
Unknown: we'll publish them. H
stands for mind control. MK

794
00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:03,510
Niomi. On MK Dietrich, that all
came out of 40s. We're going to

795
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:08,580
NIH, and 150 colleges around our
country where they were funding

796
00:48:09,330 --> 00:48:12,300
these studies. And if you look
at what they do in these

797
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:16,110
simulations, they're using all
of these techniques that they

798
00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:21,120
developed in colleges, college
laboratories, social scientists

799
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,520
and other scientists, medical
scientists for years who were

800
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,610
studying, how do you control
individual behavior, but also

801
00:48:26,610 --> 00:48:31,620
mass behavior? How do you how do
you induce mass psychosis? How

802
00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:34,320
do you create Manchurian
candidates? You know, how do you

803
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,180
do all these? All these colleges
setting these and and how do

804
00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:45,540
you? How do you impose
centralized foreign control on

805
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:49,800
indigenous populations? I coming
into a country by using

806
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:55,050
propaganda by using fear of
bias, sowing chaos by destroying

807
00:48:55,050 --> 00:48:59,250
relationships, destroying faith
in institutions, driving people

808
00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:04,350
apart and creating chaos. So
they will invite in on authority

809
00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:08,430
who will give them peace and
safety? And all of them. All of

810
00:49:08,430 --> 00:49:13,110
these Mind Control techniques
are designed to accelerate that

811
00:49:13,110 --> 00:49:13,800
process.

812
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,960
Adam Curry: Does that sound
familiar to anybody? Perhaps?

813
00:49:19,050 --> 00:49:25,020
Does that sound familiar? That's
this propaganda and so fear, and

814
00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:30,090
does that sound a bit like 2020?
And then he explains the Milgram

815
00:49:30,090 --> 00:49:30,870
experiment, but

816
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:33,090
Unknown: one of the most
interesting experiments was

817
00:49:33,090 --> 00:49:41,160
called the Milgram Milgram, and
it was assigned to associate

818
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,680
scientists at Yale sociologists
called Stanley Milgram, who was

819
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:52,710
a who was part of the MK Ultra
program. And he was he conducted

820
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:57,870
this experiment where he where
he recruited subjects from every

821
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,400
walk of American life If it were
students or professors or

822
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,640
business people or blacks,
whites, everybody from the New

823
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,140
Haven area, and he would put the
subject in a chair at a table,

824
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:12,750
whether it was a dial in front
of them, that they could

825
00:50:12,750 --> 00:50:16,350
administer an electric shock to
a person who is tied in the

826
00:50:16,350 --> 00:50:20,160
chair, and the next room, who
they told was tied in the chair,

827
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,800
but he was actually a
confederate of Milgram, he was

828
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,880
an actor. And when they turn
this dial up and administer this

829
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520
oppose electric shock, they
could hear the man in the other

830
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,060
room screaming, shouting,
begging, struggling, pleading

831
00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:38,040
with them crying, and most of
the people who are participating

832
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:43,590
in this experiment, they had to
stop a lot of work crying, and

833
00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:46,560
telling the doctor the doctor
was standing behind them saying,

834
00:50:46,590 --> 00:50:49,320
Turn it up, turn it down, turn
it higher, turn it down, turn it

835
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:56,700
even higher, turn it down, and
67% of them turned it up to 250

836
00:50:56,700 --> 00:50:59,880
volts, where it was marked,
potentially fatal.

837
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,460
Adam Curry: So this would be let
me see Jimmy Kimmel let him die.

838
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:09,960
Don't let him come in. Die,
Republicans die anti vaxxers

839
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Die, die, but they needed one
thing. They needed the man in

840
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,320
the lab coat, because that's how
the Milgram experiment literally

841
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200
worked. It's on YouTube, you can
take a look at it. I put the

842
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,380
link in the show notes. You can
see the guy has a lab coat and

843
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:28,860
when there's someone with a lab
coat, think Anthony Fauci

844
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,630
John C Dvorak: who says, Why is
Anthony Fauci ever wearing a lab

845
00:51:33,630 --> 00:51:39,090
coat or anybody is on TV? By the
way that they when I played

846
00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:42,300
those clips of Judy Woodruff are
doing the report with the Hotez?

847
00:51:42,330 --> 00:51:43,560
What did you think he's wearing

848
00:51:43,590 --> 00:51:50,340
Adam Curry: lab coat? Yep. So
67% was willing to fry their

849
00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:55,560
fellow Americans, which my dear
friends, producers and trolls,

850
00:51:55,710 --> 00:52:02,640
leaves an exact beautiful 33%.
That's you 33%

851
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Unknown: of the people got up
and walked out. And what Milgram

852
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:11,520
said, The if you for 67% of
people, if you have an authority

853
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,140
figure, and has I'm an amateur
of legitimacy, like a doctor's

854
00:52:16,170 --> 00:52:21,900
title, that 67% of people will
take his orders, even if it

855
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:25,590
means violating their most
sacred values. They'll go

856
00:52:25,590 --> 00:52:29,670
against everything they believe
in. And to me, it occurred to me

857
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:34,410
many times during that 2020, we
were all involved in this huge

858
00:52:34,410 --> 00:52:38,580
Milgram experiment. And that
Anthony Fauci was, you know, Dr.

859
00:52:38,580 --> 00:52:42,030
Milgram telling us you can
violate the Constitution, you

860
00:52:42,030 --> 00:52:45,840
can censor speech, you can close
churches, you can shut

861
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,740
businesses, you can bend jury
trials, and you can, you know,

862
00:52:49,860 --> 00:52:54,030
tell people what they can and
can't do and you can gaslight

863
00:52:54,030 --> 00:52:58,140
them and marginalize them and
vilify them and, and you know,

864
00:52:58,140 --> 00:53:00,300
that no cruelty is too great.

865
00:53:00,450 --> 00:53:02,820
Adam Curry: Hope everyone feels
good. And and we also finally

866
00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:07,620
understand the magic number. We
are the magic number 33. That's

867
00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:15,300
the magic. The magic number
three, sadly, we still have to

868
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:20,250
pay our taxes. But otherwise,
that's it. That's why we exist.

869
00:53:20,250 --> 00:53:27,780
That is our fate in life. 3%

870
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:34,080
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Key key
code and code, My Friend Code

871
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,580
big code for we don't know what?
Well, that brings me to this

872
00:53:38,580 --> 00:53:43,620
continuation of what's going on
in that regard. And that has to

873
00:53:43,620 --> 00:53:46,980
do with the one day dictator
Donald

874
00:53:46,980 --> 00:53:49,080
Adam Curry: Trump. Oh, yes. Just
for one day.

875
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,370
John C Dvorak: And by the way, I
was watching some news coverage

876
00:53:53,370 --> 00:53:58,770
this morning. And then Juan
Williams was on Fox where he

877
00:53:58,770 --> 00:54:03,030
said and Donald Trump said he's
going to be the dictator from

878
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:04,470
day one, though.

879
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:06,810
Adam Curry: That's wrong. Juan
Juan Williams, I thought he was

880
00:54:06,810 --> 00:54:08,760
kicked off of Fox back.

881
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,470
John C Dvorak: I guess it
brought him on, he said and he

882
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:14,070
said that it was corrected by
one of the other panelists said

883
00:54:14,070 --> 00:54:15,930
only for one day, so yeah, okay.

884
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,250
Adam Curry: He's a propagandist.
He's great. This is this is

885
00:54:20,250 --> 00:54:22,830
John C Dvorak: the this is the
way this is going to be played.

886
00:54:23,070 --> 00:54:27,690
Because it's actually incredible
to me, but Jim Acosta has a show

887
00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:28,560
on CNN.

888
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,800
Adam Curry: You're kidding.
Really. We've never seen this

889
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,990
show. It is a goldmine.

890
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:37,770
John C Dvorak: It's probably the
worst thing that you've ever

891
00:54:37,770 --> 00:54:43,530
seen, because Jim Acosta has no
personality whatsoever. He sits

892
00:54:43,530 --> 00:54:47,940
there stone faced, and he just
kind of reads from the prompter.

893
00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:51,420
He's he's really an reporter who
shouldn't be in the field. He is

894
00:54:51,420 --> 00:54:55,890
not a host. He's no good, but
they have him on there and which

895
00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:59,970
really makes me wonder what
discovery who owns CNN now at

896
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,230
which is major shareholders,
John Malone is one right winger.

897
00:55:04,530 --> 00:55:07,740
Adam Curry: This this guy, Jim
Acosta. He's one of the last few

898
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:09,450
brand names they have.

899
00:55:10,590 --> 00:55:13,230
John C Dvorak: What the brand
name and he's sure no good as a

900
00:55:13,230 --> 00:55:14,760
host of saying, you

901
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,750
Adam Curry: know, from a media
perspective, that's all the he's

902
00:55:18,750 --> 00:55:21,840
recognizable. Let's put it that
way. You can

903
00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:24,510
John C Dvorak: find people. So,

904
00:55:25,470 --> 00:55:28,380
Adam Curry: hey, they kicked out
Don Lemon, they kicked out the

905
00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:31,710
Cuomo kid. They kicked everybody
out.

906
00:55:32,730 --> 00:55:34,260
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
understand how they didn't kick

907
00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:37,440
this guy out. So this but this,
this is the beginning of his

908
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,860
show. It's called CNN news hour
or something. And this is the

909
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:43,740
very beginning. And let's see, I
got these are four short clips.

910
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:46,590
And they're just their jaw
droppers.

911
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:49,050
Unknown: You're live in the CNN
Newsroom. I'm Jim Acosta in

912
00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:51,870
Washington. We begin this hour
with perhaps the harshest

913
00:55:51,870 --> 00:55:54,540
warning yet. From President
Biden about his likely

914
00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:56,970
Republican rival for the White
House. The President told a

915
00:55:56,970 --> 00:56:00,480
fundraiser in California late
last night that Donald Trump

916
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,290
would destroy American democracy
if he somehow wins back the Oval

917
00:56:04,290 --> 00:56:07,680
Office. Biden said to the crowd
quote, The greatest threat Trump

918
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,070
poses is to our democracy. The
President went on to slam

919
00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:15,240
Trump's role in the January's
six attack on US Capitol saying,

920
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:19,380
quote, it's despicable. Simply
despicable Biden also referred

921
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:22,260
to Trump's comments on Fox
earlier this week, when the

922
00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:24,870
former President was asked
whether he wants to become an

923
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:27,960
American dictator. Here's what
Trump told Fox.

924
00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:32,370
John C Dvorak: Under no
circumstances, you are promising

925
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:37,260
America tonight. You would never
abuse power as retribution

926
00:56:37,260 --> 00:56:40,530
against anybody except for day
one. Except

927
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:43,410
Unknown: he's going crazy.
Except for day one, meaning I

928
00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:46,020
want to close the border. And I
want to drill

929
00:56:46,050 --> 00:56:47,760
John C Dvorak: that's not
that's, that's not.

930
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:51,030
Unknown: Now if there was any
doubt about what Trump meant the

931
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:54,660
host Sean Hannity gave him a few
chances to step back from those

932
00:56:54,660 --> 00:56:57,660
extreme words, but Trump did not
love this

933
00:56:57,660 --> 00:56:59,790
guy. He says you're not going to
be a dictator. Yeah.

934
00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:02,280
I said, No, no, no. Other than
day one.

935
00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:05,580
We're closing the border. And
we're drilling drilling drilling

936
00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:09,240
after that I'm not. As we've
noted on this program for weeks,

937
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,970
Trump has repeatedly promised to
seek vengeance against his

938
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:15,630
political enemies, praising the
leaders of China and North Korea

939
00:57:15,630 --> 00:57:18,450
and also promising to vastly
expand presidential powers

940
00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:21,090
leading to headlines like these
the Atlantic writing that Trump

941
00:57:21,090 --> 00:57:23,910
isn't bluffing and will follow
through on his threats,

942
00:57:24,270 --> 00:57:27,210
including investigating the
price for treason, mass roundups

943
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,930
and detention centers for
undocumented immigrants.

944
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:34,110
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, he
didn't say any of that. He

945
00:57:34,110 --> 00:57:36,690
didn't say any of that. Was
there more to the Hannity show

946
00:57:36,690 --> 00:57:41,220
that we missed? No, no, he
didn't say any of that he

947
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:43,980
John C Dvorak: did in the past
Sunday time in the past and said

948
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:50,370
this is putting it all together.
Horrible package now. Now. The

949
00:57:50,370 --> 00:57:54,570
second clip here is a discussion
of one of the big meetups that

950
00:57:54,570 --> 00:58:00,000
Biden had in LA where he made
these comments. And it's funny,

951
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,990
again, I'll bring it up all the
time. They keep telling us that

952
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:07,020
Trump's full of it he says one
thing he does another he's a

953
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:10,860
liar. He's a liar, liar, but yet
we take him very seriously when

954
00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:12,840
he says he's going to be a
dictator for one day.

955
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,660
Adam Curry: This is your thing.
I like it a lot. This is

956
00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:17,370
perfect. He's a liar. He's

957
00:58:17,370 --> 00:58:18,720
John C Dvorak: make up your mind
except

958
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,000
Adam Curry: when he says stuff
that we want you to believe he's

959
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,830
not a liar. So

960
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,290
John C Dvorak: this is kind of
interesting that this clip is

961
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:28,710
too long, I'm sorry for that is
not over the time limit, which

962
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:31,140
is two minutes. So if anyone out
there wants to know the time

963
00:58:31,140 --> 00:58:34,830
limit, yes. But it's long
because it takes forever to get

964
00:58:34,830 --> 00:58:37,410
to the point that I want to I
wanted to make which is that

965
00:58:37,530 --> 00:58:42,600
Hollywood's a bunch of douche
bags led by famous douchebags in

966
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,090
Unknown: Athens Kevin Liptak is
live in Los Angeles for us as

967
00:58:45,090 --> 00:58:47,430
the President is in the midst of
a weekend fundraising trip in

968
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:51,330
California. Kevin, I imagine the
President's words must have

969
00:58:51,660 --> 00:58:54,450
gotten folks by surprise at that
fundraiser. What more is he

970
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:55,260
saying? Yeah,

971
00:58:55,260 --> 00:58:58,560
he is really ramping up these
warnings about what President

972
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,650
Trump might do if he returns to
office and certainly the very

973
00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:04,950
start nothing less than the
future of American democracy is

974
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:08,160
at stake, according to President
Biden. Now when it comes to that

975
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,460
remark that Trump made about
being a dictator, President

976
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:15,870
Biden deployed some rueful humor
saying thank God only one day

977
00:59:15,870 --> 00:59:19,710
but certainly later on really
underscoring the potential for

978
00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:22,890
another Trump presidency is no
laughing matter telling these

979
00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:26,790
democratic donors literally, I
believe the future of American

980
00:59:26,790 --> 00:59:30,900
democracy is at stake the
greatest threat Trump poses to

981
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:35,130
our democracy because if we lost
that, we lose everything. And

982
00:59:35,130 --> 00:59:38,760
you really are starting to see
President Biden really honing

983
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,840
his attacks on Trump fine tuning
his arguments at these

984
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,990
fundraisers, these off camera
fundraisers, giving him a chance

985
00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:50,820
to sort of test some material
will be a central argument of

986
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,390
his reelection campaign next
year. And certainly there are

987
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:57,510
some Democrats who want
President Biden to be more

988
00:59:57,510 --> 01:00:00,450
forceful about President Trump
to make this our Clement

989
01:00:00,570 --> 01:00:03,840
publicly and when you talk to
campaign aides, they do say that

990
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,900
that moment is coming that
President Biden will begin to

991
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,960
sharpen his rhetoric, but they
want to wait until they're sure

992
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,510
that Americans are paying
attention. They don't want this

993
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,140
falling on deaf ears. And you
can imagine that these arguments

994
01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:19,140
will make their way into
television ads, digital ads, of

995
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,540
course, that will cost a lot of
money. And that is why President

996
01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:25,710
Biden is out here in Los
Angeles, raising money at two

997
01:00:25,710 --> 01:00:28,380
important fundraisers one last
night with some Hollywood

998
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:30,930
heavyweights. You know, I was
talking to Jeffrey Katzenberg,

999
01:00:30,930 --> 01:00:33,990
he's the co chair of the Biden
campaign, a movie mogul, he said

1000
01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:37,320
this 36 hours will be the most
successful when it comes to

1001
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,870
campaign fundraising for
President Biden since he

1002
01:00:39,870 --> 01:00:42,060
launched his campaign in the
spring Jim

1003
01:00:42,990 --> 01:00:47,670
Adam Curry: goodness,
Katzenberg, Katzenberg Berg

1004
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:51,990
John C Dvorak: and you can be
sure Rob Reiner was there. Oh,

1005
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:53,040
yeah. Hey, Katzenberg.

1006
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,590
Adam Curry: How's that? What was
that short form video thing that

1007
01:00:55,590 --> 01:00:58,980
he poured $2 billion into and
failed out of the gate? What was

1008
01:00:58,980 --> 01:00:59,820
that thing called?

1009
01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:02,820
John C Dvorak: I can't remember.
Remember that. I remember it. It

1010
01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:03,150
was

1011
01:01:03,390 --> 01:01:05,550
Adam Curry: trolls. What was
that? It was a turd. It was a

1012
01:01:05,580 --> 01:01:09,090
big turd. Because he's so smart.
You know,

1013
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:12,540
John C Dvorak: the Jim Acosta
show and CNN, we have to balance

1014
01:01:12,570 --> 01:01:14,550
you know what you want to do.
When you do these kinds of

1015
01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:17,400
reports. You're the host. You
bring somebody in and gives you

1016
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,760
a report is on one side. So
normally what you do is you

1017
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,870
bring somebody in with maybe a
different perspective.

1018
01:01:26,490 --> 01:01:29,400
Adam Curry: Now, why did we do
that? Oh, by the way the trolls

1019
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:34,050
want us to mention Yes, we know
Norman Lear died. be asked. We

1020
01:01:34,050 --> 01:01:36,690
were the ones that told you
about the Hollywood foundation.

1021
01:01:36,690 --> 01:01:40,500
Yes, we know. We didn't mention
it. Last show was big over so

1022
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:40,740
no,

1023
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:42,960
John C Dvorak: we didn't miss
it. Norman Lear die. What? Okay.

1024
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:48,540
We mentioned it. He was I looked
at my when I talked to me about

1025
01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:50,490
it. I said, you know, they've
obviously run out of

1026
01:01:50,490 --> 01:01:54,240
Adrenochrome down in LA quibi.
Queen. I mean, that's what

1027
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,970
Biden's down there for he's
trying to get some and they

1028
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,860
can't find any quibi

1029
01:01:58,860 --> 01:02:02,580
Adam Curry: I think quibi quibus
quibi. That's short form. Tube

1030
01:02:02,580 --> 01:02:08,490
tarde. tarde to quibi quibus I
don't know Yeah. Anyway, yes.

1031
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,190
Audrina Chrome. Yes, that's why
Biden's there. Well, it hasn't.

1032
01:02:11,220 --> 01:02:13,770
It hasn't helped. Well, so we
got

1033
01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:18,540
John C Dvorak: so we got the
opportunity now to bring

1034
01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:21,690
somebody in to give us some
perspective. Okay, here we go.

1035
01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:22,440
All right.

1036
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:25,380
Unknown: Kevin Liptak reporting
from LA forest. Kevin, thank you

1037
01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:28,020
very much. Let's continue the
conversation right now. Joining

1038
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:31,200
me now is the niece of former
President Trump, Mary Trump.

1039
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:34,140
Mary, great to have you back on
the program. Really appreciate

1040
01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:36,480
your time. You heard what

1041
01:02:36,810 --> 01:02:40,800
Adam Curry: I know you're so
busy doing. Appreciate your

1042
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:41,040
time.

1043
01:02:41,250 --> 01:02:42,900
Unknown: The President was
saying last night at this

1044
01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:45,720
fundraiser in California seizing
on what Donald Trump has been

1045
01:02:46,170 --> 01:02:49,440
talking about recently, and I
just wanted to get your reaction

1046
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,620
to what Trump was saying on Fox
the other night, a dictator but

1047
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:55,500
only on day one. What was your
reaction when you heard that

1048
01:02:55,530 --> 01:03:01,170
we need to take Donald at His
Word? To a certain point. We can

1049
01:03:01,170 --> 01:03:05,040
ignore the second half of that
statement. Dictor taters last I

1050
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,780
checked, don't stop being
dictators. And he has every

1051
01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:14,700
intention of destroying American
democracy. And we need to be

1052
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:19,710
clear why it's entirely for his
own benefit. Nothing about this

1053
01:03:19,710 --> 01:03:23,940
is ideological. So in that
context, it was it was really

1054
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,100
heartening to hear President
Biden be so direct about what's

1055
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:33,660
facing this country, I agree
that it is too early to assume

1056
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:37,020
that people are paying
attention. And we don't want

1057
01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:41,520
that argument to get normalized,
which is been part of the

1058
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,910
problem the last seven years,
almost everything Donald does

1059
01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:48,450
seems to be normalized. But
we've seen what he's done in the

1060
01:03:48,450 --> 01:03:52,170
past. And I think what he's
starting to do now is push the

1061
01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:57,030
envelope and get people familiar
with the concept of his

1062
01:03:57,030 --> 01:04:01,050
dictatorial tendencies, so that
they just write it off the way

1063
01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:04,770
they've written off all of his
other egregious anti democratic

1064
01:04:04,770 --> 01:04:05,490
behavior. Oh,

1065
01:04:05,490 --> 01:04:08,250
Adam Curry: she forgot to
mention five d chess. I mean,

1066
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,660
yes, this is so smart. He's, he
said, Build the wall and drill

1067
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:16,740
drill drill. But this is really
about him being a dictator for

1068
01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:19,620
himself. Because when you
destroy America, it's great for

1069
01:04:19,620 --> 01:04:20,310
business.

1070
01:04:20,820 --> 01:04:23,550
John C Dvorak: You know, the
funny thing is, is that, do any

1071
01:04:23,550 --> 01:04:26,610
of these people have any sense
of how the American system

1072
01:04:26,610 --> 01:04:33,930
works? It's gotten three, it's
balanced. It does not work where

1073
01:04:33,930 --> 01:04:38,550
some guy can just waltz in and
but we are describing it and

1074
01:04:38,550 --> 01:04:40,770
just decide to be the dictator.
We

1075
01:04:40,770 --> 01:04:43,290
Adam Curry: saw this because
Trump certainly didn't deliver

1076
01:04:43,290 --> 01:04:47,310
on all the things he said he
would. And what these people are

1077
01:04:47,310 --> 01:04:51,090
doing is projecting because they
know that they are the ones who

1078
01:04:51,090 --> 01:04:54,930
will hang. That's what's going
on. Oh, is this guy comes in,

1079
01:04:54,930 --> 01:04:59,100
we're in trouble. I mean, not
marry Trump. I mean, they'll

1080
01:04:59,100 --> 01:04:59,400
marry

1081
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,280
John C Dvorak: Trump says Stage,
but the fact that she's even Who

1082
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,600
is she? I mean, she's just some
Brando. But let's, when

1083
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,150
Adam Curry: you have a podcast,
a cable podcast, you might as

1084
01:05:09,150 --> 01:05:10,860
well bring in the randos.

1085
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,360
John C Dvorak: So you have a so
let's let her finish up with her

1086
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,180
doubling down on this whole
thing. So we can see the real

1087
01:05:18,180 --> 01:05:25,260
logic at play here. And the
insanity of these Democrats in

1088
01:05:25,260 --> 01:05:25,980
general,

1089
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,380
Unknown: that leads me to this
question, Marian, that is, I

1090
01:05:28,380 --> 01:05:30,960
mean, do you think Trump would
stop on day one? I mean, to say

1091
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,270
he would only be a dictator on
the first day, I suppose if

1092
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:35,430
you're the dictator on the first
day, you could say, well,

1093
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:37,710
tomorrow I'll be dictator to
because you're the dictator at

1094
01:05:37,710 --> 01:05:38,220
that point.

1095
01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:39,810
Adam Curry: Oh, that's great
logic, Jim. I

1096
01:05:39,810 --> 01:05:42,150
Unknown: mean, what do you think
does you stop on day one,

1097
01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:46,020
every day, from then on, we'll
be day one. Let's put it that

1098
01:05:46,020 --> 01:05:50,910
way. He has no intention of
stopping. He knows why he needs

1099
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:53,520
to get back into the White
House. Those reasons won't

1100
01:05:53,520 --> 01:06:00,270
disappear on a day two or day
100. So we have to take this

1101
01:06:00,270 --> 01:06:05,370
threat incredibly seriously. And
part of the threat isn't just

1102
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,640
Donald's rhetoric. It's the
reception that rhetoric

1103
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,630
receives, we heard the laughing
and the cheering. In that

1104
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:17,310
audience. We hear what his
sycophants and enablers like

1105
01:06:17,310 --> 01:06:20,760
Sean Hannity and like
practically every single elected

1106
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:25,440
member in Congress, who is
Republican is willing to put up

1107
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,070
with is willing to allow and is
willing to support

1108
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,980
Adam Curry: sycophants. That's
interesting. That's a talking

1109
01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:37,740
point. I'll get to it in a
minute. Okay, Why is Trump

1110
01:06:37,740 --> 01:06:42,060
saying drill drill drill the ran
on the wall in 2016. I think

1111
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:45,270
it's weak. Honestly, I think
it's weak. I think by now people

1112
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:48,990
have just figured out that it
doesn't have as much to do with

1113
01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:54,450
a wall as it does with parole.
And I'll give that to Lindy Hop,

1114
01:06:55,380 --> 01:07:00,000
parole, catch and release etc. I
mean, it's the policy, it's not

1115
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,990
the wall. It's the policy, the
policy and and that the agency

1116
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:08,610
that's in charge of it just
follows up. The oil oil thing is

1117
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:11,670
a direct drill drill drill
thing, sorry, is a direct

1118
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:14,820
counter to Nikki Haley. I had
dinner with the oil baron. As

1119
01:07:14,820 --> 01:07:19,920
promised. Ah, here we go. The
Texas oil baron who has actually

1120
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:24,570
met with Nikki Haley, and has
shown her around the oil fields.

1121
01:07:25,350 --> 01:07:31,650
She had good questions. And she
according to him, she is big oil

1122
01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:37,560
all the way. Why are you doing
this? I said, he said I need a

1123
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,280
backup plan. Understandable.

1124
01:07:42,690 --> 01:07:45,150
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
way, I got confused with the way

1125
01:07:45,150 --> 01:07:49,020
you put that. Oh, if Claudia she
asked him he asked her what? No.

1126
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,510
Why are you doing that you

1127
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:54,630
Adam Curry: asked him was? That
was me asking him why are you

1128
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:58,980
asking him? Yes. Why is he doing
what? Why are you pandering to

1129
01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:02,220
Nikki Haley? Why are you getting
her? I don't want to be fair. I

1130
01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:05,790
don't know. I don't know if he
supported financially, but

1131
01:08:05,790 --> 01:08:08,040
certainly his other billionaire
buddy did.

1132
01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:10,740
John C Dvorak: A lot of
billionaires are in on Nikki

1133
01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:11,760
Haley. And he's also

1134
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,010
Adam Curry: an oil guy, the
Hatter out he had a big

1135
01:08:14,010 --> 01:08:19,830
fundraiser out at the ranch. His
friend. So my friend the oil

1136
01:08:19,830 --> 01:08:22,590
baron says we need a backup plan
in case something happens to

1137
01:08:22,590 --> 01:08:27,090
Trump. Because he knows that
Trump is is all in on Big Oil in

1138
01:08:27,090 --> 01:08:31,680
drilling etc. And I think that's
why Trump is doubling down drill

1139
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,320
drill drill drill drill oil,
guys, don't worry, I got you

1140
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:35,610
covered yet.

1141
01:08:35,609 --> 01:08:37,559
John C Dvorak: Don't give her
any more money. Yes,

1142
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,900
Adam Curry: exactly. I got you
covered. It's all going to be

1143
01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:44,550
good. Now. He didn't mention
something else. He is very

1144
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:48,510
confused and very mad at
something you brought up. The

1145
01:08:48,510 --> 01:08:54,480
methane leaks. He says the
methane leaks are bull crap.

1146
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,730
They send you a report. And it's
just an algo. He said they run

1147
01:08:59,730 --> 01:09:02,670
an algorithm. We have no methane
leaks. And if we hadn't, we'd

1148
01:09:02,670 --> 01:09:05,580
love to know exactly where they
are. Because we'd like to plug

1149
01:09:05,580 --> 01:09:09,060
those up. He says they just send
them a report that has

1150
01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:12,600
algorithms and says Well,
according to our algorithm, you

1151
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,380
have methane leaks, and here's
what you have to pay in fines.

1152
01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:20,460
Oh, interesting. And then he
said, Where does the money go?

1153
01:09:21,060 --> 01:09:24,450
This is this is the face you're
saying? Well, this is also

1154
01:09:24,450 --> 01:09:27,270
Andrew Horowitz this thing where
does the money Oh is always

1155
01:09:27,270 --> 01:09:29,820
wondering where the where does
the money go? And I said, Well,

1156
01:09:29,850 --> 01:09:33,930
here's what I know how it works
in the finance industry. What

1157
01:09:33,930 --> 01:09:37,410
happens? And I said this is a
tip is a tip for you. What you

1158
01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:42,090
do is you say oh, okay, well,
how because the bank guys, they

1159
01:09:42,090 --> 01:09:44,550
do these deals with the
Department of the Treasury. So I

1160
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:46,920
don't know how this works for
the Department of Energy. They

1161
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,400
do a deal. I say, Well, what
we'll do is we'll give all this

1162
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,340
money this, you know, so it's
let's say it's $25 million in

1163
01:09:53,340 --> 01:09:59,430
fines. We'll give that to these
nonprofits. They see and then

1164
01:09:59,460 --> 01:10:02,730
the Treasury for banks by in
this case do II I guess would

1165
01:10:02,730 --> 01:10:06,450
say, Okay, give that to those
guys and what happens you just

1166
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:10,170
gave $25 million to nonprofits
you get the write that off of

1167
01:10:10,170 --> 01:10:16,140
your taxes. Nice. That's how it
typically works. So anyway, the

1168
01:10:16,290 --> 01:10:22,110
the oil guy, oil baron, my
friend will keep me updated on

1169
01:10:22,110 --> 01:10:25,740
progress and he had one other
thing for me. Which I want to

1170
01:10:25,740 --> 01:10:33,420
let you know. He goes hunting on
King Ranch once a year. And he

1171
01:10:33,420 --> 01:10:41,640
comes home with I got to look it
up with Neil guy. And I L G AI

1172
01:10:41,730 --> 01:10:44,760
nilgai. Have you heard of this
animal?

1173
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:46,680
John C Dvorak: No, it's like it.
I

1174
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,950
Adam Curry: have heard of auric
it's not orange and you're in

1175
01:10:49,950 --> 01:10:53,940
Texas, not Oryx, but it is it is
one of those antelope like

1176
01:10:53,940 --> 01:10:58,650
animals. He's he's gonna give us
a whole bunch of nilgai meat

1177
01:10:58,650 --> 01:11:02,460
products now. Okay, good. So and
I'll send some to you too, cuz I

1178
01:11:02,460 --> 01:11:04,560
know you're gonna love. It's
just It's sad. He said, it's

1179
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,680
beautiful. It's just like He
says very similar to Oryx and,

1180
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,160
and an antelope. So excited. And

1181
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,550
John C Dvorak: it looks
delicious. I've had that. So

1182
01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:18,660
what did he have any dispute
with my analysis of the oil

1183
01:11:18,660 --> 01:11:22,530
loss, or the methane loss or
anything, which I said, why, you

1184
01:11:22,530 --> 01:11:25,980
know, the refineries don't like
this because if this happening,

1185
01:11:25,980 --> 01:11:28,080
then they're losing product.
They're losing money.

1186
01:11:28,110 --> 01:11:30,540
Adam Curry: Not Well, no, he,
not only does he agree with you,

1187
01:11:30,540 --> 01:11:33,540
he says it's not true. He says
they're just sending him a

1188
01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:38,430
report that hasn't been renewed
that okay, no, it's not true

1189
01:11:38,430 --> 01:11:41,580
bullcrap you please show me
where the leak is. We'll go and

1190
01:11:41,580 --> 01:11:43,590
plug it. We'd love to know where
that is.

1191
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, doesn't
make sense. Yeah. I mean, you

1192
01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:50,940
run a refinery there's not I
mean, there's a lot of horrible

1193
01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:54,180
product has gone here and there
every which way. And you can

1194
01:11:54,180 --> 01:11:56,730
walk through a refinery right
now and you won't smell

1195
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:00,780
anything. There's no no smell of
anything. And if you do smell

1196
01:12:00,780 --> 01:12:03,330
something, there's an issue that
has to be taken care of

1197
01:12:03,330 --> 01:12:04,140
immediately.

1198
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:07,170
Adam Curry: Of definitely that
this oil baron. He's a

1199
01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:10,110
sweetheart i love this guy. This
is he's going to be one for the

1200
01:12:10,110 --> 01:12:11,280
show for a long time.

1201
01:12:11,670 --> 01:12:13,290
John C Dvorak: No good. He
straighten this out.

1202
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,350
Adam Curry: He will definitely
straighten this out. Especially

1203
01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:21,180
I got a I got a note from atomic
rod Adams. And he's back and I

1204
01:12:21,180 --> 01:12:25,260
don't know what's happened, man.
He's like, I love you guys. You

1205
01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:27,480
know, I know. I've been away for
a while. He's been away for a

1206
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:31,110
long time. He sent me a whole
explainer. But he says I just

1207
01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:33,630
have one disagreement with you.
Climate change is real. I'm

1208
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:36,630
like, oh my god, they got to
him. I think they got to atomic

1209
01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:42,720
rod. Something happened there.
And he's all in on on manmade

1210
01:12:43,230 --> 01:12:49,500
climate change. Now he sent me I
struck back I said dude, don't

1211
01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:52,980
do this to me. We'd love it. We
love nuclear we're on your we're

1212
01:12:52,980 --> 01:12:55,140
on board with you. You don't
have to spy on me with this

1213
01:12:55,140 --> 01:12:59,190
stuff. I want us to know that's
very very rare very very real.

1214
01:12:59,190 --> 01:13:02,310
So I'm going to read through his
his argumentation because we owe

1215
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:04,020
him that because he's atomic
rather than

1216
01:13:04,050 --> 01:13:06,000
John C Dvorak: getting your
senator some counter material.

1217
01:13:06,030 --> 01:13:08,400
He's obviously not getting it.
Now he

1218
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,920
Adam Curry: has material but he
said he answered me this

1219
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,690
morning. So I haven't read
through it because it's long

1220
01:13:12,780 --> 01:13:16,800
anyway. That was just surprised
like, oh, man, it's like, you

1221
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:21,000
know, well, maybe one door
closes atomic rod oil baron. One

1222
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:21,840
door opens up.

1223
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:25,560
John C Dvorak: I will I want to
do a quick Mia culpa ended

1224
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,540
discuss just for one second. The
testimony of the three college

1225
01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:36,810
presidents. Yes, the MIA culpa,
is I said Penn State at least

1226
01:13:36,810 --> 01:13:37,410
once

1227
01:13:37,410 --> 01:13:41,700
Adam Curry: Gosh, people were
like, tell John is UPenn I'm

1228
01:13:41,700 --> 01:13:43,800
like, I'm not as assistant.

1229
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,280
John C Dvorak: Why do people I
got a couple notes. How but

1230
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,960
Adam Curry: most people think
that I am your intern. And

1231
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:55,320
John C Dvorak: you bitched about
this constantly. We don't need

1232
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,130
to hear it again.

1233
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,100
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, I do
stop is John at the Vortech dot.

1234
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:01,830
You know what the answer when I
say email him, he never answers.

1235
01:14:01,860 --> 01:14:03,480
Yeah, well, there you go.

1236
01:14:06,090 --> 01:14:08,550
John C Dvorak: I answer mostly I
mostly answered but they didn't

1237
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:13,260
answer to the dame that word
poet Baronet test of the rhyming

1238
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:21,360
line sent an email she happens
to be a an executive at the

1239
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:28,170
professional staff at Berkeley.
Oh, and she's she called me out

1240
01:14:28,170 --> 01:14:33,330
on my whole analysis about the
three presidents and nobody else

1241
01:14:33,330 --> 01:14:36,030
has brought any of what I'm
going to read from her up at

1242
01:14:36,030 --> 01:14:42,120
all. And I realized this is
exactly right. She says that you

1243
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,390
should go with our comms razor.
There was no conspiracy. The

1244
01:14:45,390 --> 01:14:49,860
presidents of Harvard, Penn
UPenn and MIT were stymied by

1245
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:56,400
their own wokeness how one title
nine laws as a professional

1246
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,640
staff in higher education, the
presidents of Harvard and the

1247
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,610
rest of Have you all received
hours long training you've read,

1248
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,570
you don't take these trainings I
have for various things,

1249
01:15:06,570 --> 01:15:09,210
harassment, whatever. But I
guess these people will take

1250
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:13,260
training on Title Nine. And what
constitutes harassment and

1251
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:17,490
bullying according to Title
Nine, these trainings make it

1252
01:15:17,490 --> 01:15:20,280
very clear that it would be
considered harassment behavior

1253
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:26,430
must be quote, pervasive, severe
and persistent. Not a single

1254
01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:30,090
instance, a single instance may
not be enough to constitute

1255
01:15:30,090 --> 01:15:36,420
harassment. It has to be a one
single event or two pervasive

1256
01:15:36,420 --> 01:15:41,100
and persistent. So if a stupid
freshman yells genocide to Jews

1257
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:43,800
in an auditorium class and runs
out the door that will be

1258
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,490
written off as a young kid being
stupid. They wish he goes on and

1259
01:15:47,490 --> 01:15:51,660
on with this, just describing
Title Nine as being there were

1260
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:54,360
caught up in it, and they were
trying to beat around the bush

1261
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:59,520
about context. And I retorted
with her, I said, what about

1262
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,260
this, if these women were so
handcuffed? That's what it seems

1263
01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:07,050
like they were handcuffed by
Title Nine because they could

1264
01:16:07,050 --> 01:16:12,480
get sued for not following Title
Nine, which was presented and

1265
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:16,620
produced by our government, they
should have said I on this

1266
01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:21,270
onstage, I can answer a yes or
no question like that, because

1267
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:27,210
I'm, I'm handcuffed by Title
Nine, something you Congress has

1268
01:16:27,210 --> 01:16:31,830
approved and made me abide by?
Well, first of all it right back

1269
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:32,850
at him. Okay.

1270
01:16:32,970 --> 01:16:39,450
Adam Curry: Couple things. It is
now known that the UPenn Lady

1271
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:45,090
and the Harvard lady not the MIT
lady had $1,500 An hour lawyers

1272
01:16:45,090 --> 01:16:49,290
prepping them for two days. So
that's so yeah, that comes back

1273
01:16:49,290 --> 01:16:52,080
to Title Nine. But that's where
all that went wrong. They were

1274
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,990
loitered up, and they were
reading their scripts. And

1275
01:16:54,990 --> 01:16:59,100
that's why those two were, were
their answers were similar. I

1276
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:01,200
think the MIT lady went, Oh,
that's good.

1277
01:17:01,530 --> 01:17:04,530
John C Dvorak: I'll jump in on
it. Lady was said nothing. But

1278
01:17:04,530 --> 01:17:08,760
Adam Curry: here's so I wanted
to get an alternative opinion

1279
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,930
from liberal intellectual
elites. Because it's much more

1280
01:17:12,930 --> 01:17:16,920
fun to figure out what the other
side of thinking is thinking.

1281
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,660
And blow and behold, my hatless
and twice a week did not

1282
01:17:21,660 --> 01:17:25,740
disappoint. Of course, I'm
talking about pivot with the

1283
01:17:26,010 --> 01:17:31,290
illustrious Kara Swisher, who
has a mouth on her Oh, my God,

1284
01:17:31,410 --> 01:17:35,670
she drops more F bombs than I
ever have. But that's not who

1285
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:39,660
we're talking about today.
Today, it is Prof. G. You know

1286
01:17:39,660 --> 01:17:42,600
him as the professor from New
York University professor in

1287
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:48,900
marketing. who is a Jew, I'm
sorry, who happens to be Jewish.

1288
01:17:49,980 --> 01:17:55,830
And he had a very fun, no
agenda, like take on these

1289
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,000
presidents. In particular. Now
he's talking about gay president

1290
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,440
gay of Harvard.

1291
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,390
Unknown: Oh, I thought it was
embarrassing for them. They came

1292
01:18:03,390 --> 01:18:08,640
across as weak and overlawyered.
They were clearly coached to try

1293
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:13,770
and seem empathetic but say
nothing. New SmartKey. And, and

1294
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:19,020
I just want to read a statement
that President gay put out. She

1295
01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:23,160
said, like many of you I've
watched in pain and horror, the

1296
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,630
events unfolding triggered by
callous and depraved actions. We

1297
01:18:27,630 --> 01:18:30,570
have been here before too many
times. And that familiarity is

1298
01:18:30,570 --> 01:18:34,380
part of the heartbreak and
outrage of this moment, even as

1299
01:18:34,380 --> 01:18:36,420
a global fight against pandemic
has forged new bonds and

1300
01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:38,520
inspired new acts of profound
generosity. We are confronted

1301
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:43,860
again by old hatreds, and the
enduring legacies of racism and

1302
01:18:43,860 --> 01:18:47,640
inequality. So she put it that's
a powerful statement. It's

1303
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,050
accurate. But she was writing
about George Floyd or the murder

1304
01:18:52,050 --> 01:18:55,050
of George Floyd. And that is
these presidents have in

1305
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:55,650
unequip? He

1306
01:18:55,650 --> 01:18:58,860
Adam Curry: did. He didn't know
agenda switcheroo. This was a

1307
01:18:58,860 --> 01:19:00,090
good one. Yes, Lloyd.

1308
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,180
Unknown: And that is, these
presidents have an unequivocal

1309
01:19:03,210 --> 01:19:09,030
and strong and resolute about
other outrageous things that

1310
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:14,130
have happened and and here's
here's the problem. It's not the

1311
01:19:14,130 --> 01:19:17,130
issue of whether it's not around
whether this is hate speech or

1312
01:19:17,130 --> 01:19:19,740
free speech. That's not the
issue here in my view, or what's

1313
01:19:19,740 --> 01:19:23,760
causing the controversy? Because
I would argue that, you know,

1314
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:27,570
that if you're a group of
students are walking in a march

1315
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,360
and they start saying from the
river to the sea, I'm not sure.

1316
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,210
That doesn't qualify as free
speech. Now, we can have an

1317
01:19:33,210 --> 01:19:36,690
argument over that. But the
problem here is the

1318
01:19:36,690 --> 01:19:37,680
inconsistency.

1319
01:19:40,170 --> 01:19:42,510
Adam Curry: There you go. I
thought that was quite good. I

1320
01:19:42,510 --> 01:19:44,730
wanted to give him his props on
that. That was that was a good

1321
01:19:44,730 --> 01:19:45,420
switcheroo.

1322
01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:48,570
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but every
clock is right twice a day, but

1323
01:19:48,570 --> 01:19:49,710
that's exactly

1324
01:19:49,740 --> 01:19:51,960
Adam Curry: what people are
seeing. We're seeing they're

1325
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:58,800
seeing the inconsistency.
Saying, and it's, it's it's

1326
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,420
beautiful because This is
drawing light. This is not being

1327
01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:08,730
we expected. Well, we hoped, I
guess academia higher education

1328
01:20:08,940 --> 01:20:12,540
would eventually crumble under,
you know, maybe the student

1329
01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:15,660
loans or something had to
happen. But now, they screwed

1330
01:20:15,660 --> 01:20:21,270
themselves. It's beautiful to
watch and donors are pulling out

1331
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:24,390
and people are waking up to
like, what do you do punchy as

1332
01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:25,350
index.

1333
01:20:26,730 --> 01:20:28,650
John C Dvorak: And this also
takes forever for the public to

1334
01:20:28,650 --> 01:20:30,420
figure out what's yours

1335
01:20:30,420 --> 01:20:36,990
Adam Curry: sometimes years. And
To wit, this is a report from

1336
01:20:36,990 --> 01:20:39,630
Turkish radio and television if
you if you want to get the

1337
01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:44,820
Palestinian slant on everything,
this is where you go. They did.

1338
01:20:44,820 --> 01:20:50,340
This is a quickie report of the
Pope Palace Pro, the pro

1339
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:55,020
Palestine demonstrators marching
on Wall Street. The signs were

1340
01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:57,900
professional, they were all
socialist party, world Workers

1341
01:20:57,900 --> 01:21:00,540
Party, anarchy flags, etc.

1342
01:21:00,630 --> 01:21:03,330
Unknown: Over the last couple of
weeks, I've attended many pro

1343
01:21:03,330 --> 01:21:06,210
Palestine demonstrations
throughout the United States.

1344
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:10,230
But I can tell you this one in
downtown Manhattan today is the

1345
01:21:10,230 --> 01:21:13,830
largest crowd I've seen. And
they're marching right now

1346
01:21:13,860 --> 01:21:17,700
towards Wall Street. And their
goal is to shut it down. Their

1347
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:21,810
goal is to send a message from
New York, all the way to Gaza,

1348
01:21:22,170 --> 01:21:25,440
where downtown Manhattan today
and we're marching towards Wall

1349
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,360
Street, what's the significance
of that

1350
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:31,470
1000s People here marching
towards last year, because we

1351
01:21:31,470 --> 01:21:35,250
know that it's the center of
financial capital, the center of

1352
01:21:35,250 --> 01:21:38,430
us capitalism, which is the
engine of this horrendous

1353
01:21:38,430 --> 01:21:43,350
genocide machine that has killed
20,000 Palestinians in just two

1354
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:44,190
months. So

1355
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:47,430
we have a large coalition of
people here from all kinds of

1356
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:50,010
different backgrounds and we
also have Jewish people here

1357
01:21:50,010 --> 01:21:51,630
demonstrating for Palestine.

1358
01:21:51,660 --> 01:21:56,640
Adam Curry: So the whole thing
is against capitalism. It's

1359
01:21:56,670 --> 01:21:59,880
these are socialists and
Marxists. They don't actually

1360
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:04,470
care about Gaza. They see an
opportunity and they're seizing

1361
01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:07,230
it. And of course it's not going
to work but

1362
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:10,470
John C Dvorak: well, it goes
where it's worse than that.

1363
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,700
Adam Curry: Oh, no.

1364
01:22:14,370 --> 01:22:19,590
John C Dvorak: Gambling so so.
So we had one of our producers

1365
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:20,340
who happens to be

1366
01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:24,450
Adam Curry: a happens to be what
John a gorgeous Broadway

1367
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:31,260
actress. Wow, you do get the
good producers. Now. I get Emily

1368
01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:32,610
the germ barge.

1369
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:41,280
John C Dvorak: She Well, she
knows me I sent a clip from one

1370
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,870
of these. Pre December December
8 was supposed to be this huge

1371
01:22:45,870 --> 01:22:49,290
protests around the country one
day, walkouts left and right and

1372
01:22:49,290 --> 01:22:51,960
only place it happened was Wall
Street and I guess the

1373
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:56,280
Washington Post, but except for
those two guys, there's nothing

1374
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,980
going on but this guy gives a
speech now it's very unfortunate

1375
01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:05,340
is very difficult. I ran it
through Adobe made it 10 times

1376
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:09,570
worse. Yeah. Now this guy's
giving us kind of just give you

1377
01:23:09,570 --> 01:23:10,410
a tip a tip.

1378
01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:14,670
Adam Curry: That TRT report I
tried it through Adobe sucked. I

1379
01:23:14,670 --> 01:23:19,590
ran it through the ones that I
gave you the link to that it's

1380
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:25,440
the open source love that guy.
The vocal remover and isolation

1381
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:27,990
which you would typically think
is just to remove music or

1382
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:31,320
background stuff. I'll have to
try the next very good for

1383
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,290
removing crowd noise and stuff.
Well, this

1384
01:23:34,290 --> 01:23:37,680
John C Dvorak: is a deep problem
is a dual problem echo and crowd

1385
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,130
noise man is this. If it sucks,
I mean I'm live. If you can't

1386
01:23:41,130 --> 01:23:44,910
hear you can't hear but this is
a unbelievably interesting.

1387
01:23:45,180 --> 01:23:47,760
Couple of eclipses to destroy
Israel clip.

1388
01:23:48,330 --> 01:23:52,830
Adam Curry: destroy Israel. Here
we go. Israel

1389
01:23:53,070 --> 01:23:56,850
Unknown: is losing ground
politically, diplomatically,

1390
01:23:57,810 --> 01:24:02,820
financially, is losing ground in
every possible sphere of life,

1391
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,960
we have become Biden's worst
nightmare. Because now

1392
01:24:12,690 --> 01:24:15,990
that they have any every time
they hold a press conference

1393
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:19,890
every time they have to make one
decision or another or anything

1394
01:24:19,890 --> 01:24:23,250
else is essential. Now, the
question is, are those

1395
01:24:23,820 --> 01:24:27,840
protesters going to show up?
What streets are they going to

1396
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,510
disrupt? What chaos are they
going to have these we finally

1397
01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:39,240
deal that final blow to finally
destroy a race.

1398
01:24:43,260 --> 01:24:45,630
Adam Curry: Oh man, you so
should have run that through the

1399
01:24:45,660 --> 01:24:47,670
vocal remover either way, the

1400
01:24:48,210 --> 01:24:52,650
John C Dvorak: idea is to just
destroy Israel. And this is a

1401
01:24:52,650 --> 01:24:56,580
millennial thing. All the
millennials including my they're

1402
01:24:56,580 --> 01:24:59,970
all us but the older millennials
in particular, they're all in on

1403
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,910
This idea of destroying Israel.
Yes. Well, what what is the

1404
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:09,270
point? I mean, what does that
accomplish? Well, the second

1405
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:12,210
part of this kind of explains
what it accomplishes, if you

1406
01:25:12,210 --> 01:25:15,690
can, try to make it out, I'll
explain what he said, If you

1407
01:25:15,690 --> 01:25:16,890
can't hear it, here we go.

1408
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:19,170
Adam Curry: Here's what I did.
While you were talking while the

1409
01:25:19,170 --> 01:25:21,900
clip was running. I pulled
number two through my AI

1410
01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:26,370
machine. Hopefully this will be
better. Oops, I need to open the

1411
01:25:26,370 --> 01:25:30,210
fader, of course, that hill.
This is going this is going to

1412
01:25:30,210 --> 01:25:32,670
be Jim, there's going to be
genius to

1413
01:25:32,670 --> 01:25:37,170
Unknown: the Palestinian people.
Well, no army, no air force with

1414
01:25:37,170 --> 01:25:44,190
no navy was able to defeat
Israel as a US. What is it

1415
01:25:44,190 --> 01:25:49,770
possible? What can we do? I know
for a fact, I know for sure. I

1416
01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:50,370
feel that in my

1417
01:25:51,420 --> 01:25:53,400
goodness of our material
conditions now.

1418
01:25:53,670 --> 01:25:57,270
That's when we defeat Israel in
the US Empire, we will actually

1419
01:25:57,270 --> 01:26:00,960
have been able to know how to
dismantle capitalism here in the

1420
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:01,560
United States.

1421
01:26:03,150 --> 01:26:05,880
John C Dvorak: was better,
right? It was Yeah. And so the

1422
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,890
idea is this whole process is to
get is to dismantle Americanism.

1423
01:26:11,010 --> 01:26:14,460
And Americans is just a straight
up Marxist play. Yeah. And

1424
01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:17,880
everyone's buying into Oh, yeah,
those poor Palestinians. It's

1425
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,190
got nothing to do with the
Palestinian. Oh, that's

1426
01:26:20,220 --> 01:26:24,750
Adam Curry: that is, that is the
most racist genocidal thing you

1427
01:26:24,750 --> 01:26:30,840
can be is abuse those people for
your own socialist Marxist

1428
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,350
needs. That's that's what makes
them worse.

1429
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:39,090
John C Dvorak: So everybody
supporting Palestine is really

1430
01:26:39,090 --> 01:26:42,570
supporting the death of the of
America dollars. It was missing

1431
01:26:42,570 --> 01:26:46,530
from the guy speech was death to
America, which I mentioned in

1432
01:26:46,530 --> 01:26:51,210
the newsletter. Yes. That's true
to America where, you know,

1433
01:26:51,210 --> 01:26:54,150
that's what when you see the
Palestinian protests, that's

1434
01:26:54,150 --> 01:26:56,340
what you're dealing with, but I
got a kick out of the fact that

1435
01:26:56,340 --> 01:26:59,880
at the very beginning, he says
we're Biden's worst nightmare.

1436
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:01,020
Oh, yeah.

1437
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:07,680
Adam Curry: Yeah. Genocide, Joe?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was

1438
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:13,470
something I learned amidst all
of this, about the boycott,

1439
01:27:13,470 --> 01:27:16,620
divest and sanction. The BDS
movement thing is Boycott

1440
01:27:16,620 --> 01:27:21,630
Divestment Sanction. Thanks to
this what it is. I was not aware

1441
01:27:21,630 --> 01:27:26,550
of certainly not in the state of
Texas, that this goes beyond

1442
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:31,560
just, you know, Roger Waters
and, you know, some people yapan

1443
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:36,390
there's actual laws that have
been created for state

1444
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:37,710
contracts. In

1445
01:27:37,710 --> 01:27:40,200
Unknown: much of the United
States, there may be penalties

1446
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,830
if you decide to boycott the
State of Israel. 37 US states

1447
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:48,000
have enacted some form of anti
boycott divestment, sanctions or

1448
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,660
BDS legislation. It typically
requires parties signing

1449
01:27:51,660 --> 01:27:54,240
contracts with the state
government not to engage in a

1450
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,220
boycott of Israel. Even

1451
01:27:56,220 --> 01:28:00,330
to apply for such a contract. I
had to sign first sign a pledge,

1452
01:28:01,170 --> 01:28:06,090
saying that I would not boycott
Israel or not only Israel, get

1453
01:28:06,090 --> 01:28:09,450
this Israel or any territory it
controls

1454
01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:12,660
it. There have been several
ports across the United States

1455
01:28:12,660 --> 01:28:16,980
that have reached the most
important question here does the

1456
01:28:16,980 --> 01:28:22,110
Constitution as a First
Amendment forbids States federal

1457
01:28:22,110 --> 01:28:27,150
government from passing laws
that target the anti BDS

1458
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:33,000
movement? I want to thank all
Texas for the support in Texas,

1459
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:37,830
a federal court struck down
rights the entirety of Texas law

1460
01:28:38,250 --> 01:28:41,610
after our client but here on
Maui, I was asked to sign a

1461
01:28:41,610 --> 01:28:46,230
contract that asked her to
promise Israel to promise Israel

1462
01:28:46,260 --> 01:28:47,700
that she wouldn't boycott the

1463
01:28:47,700 --> 01:28:50,670
state simply passed a new law
that applies to companies

1464
01:28:50,670 --> 01:28:51,930
instead of individuals,

1465
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:56,070
even when the laws allow for
free speech and there needs to

1466
01:28:56,070 --> 01:29:02,100
be a social climate that allows
folks to freely express their

1467
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:02,490
views

1468
01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:05,130
the two months into heightened
tensions and rhetoric

1469
01:29:05,130 --> 01:29:09,210
surrounding the Israel Hamas war
and climate may not be now.

1470
01:29:10,140 --> 01:29:13,650
Adam Curry: I'm not sure about
this is TR t so I don't know

1471
01:29:13,650 --> 01:29:18,930
about a law but that's
interesting. The invalid

1472
01:29:18,930 --> 01:29:26,250
Realizer when that far anyway.
Genocide Joe's representative at

1473
01:29:26,250 --> 01:29:29,220
the United Nations on the
Security Council did not do

1474
01:29:29,220 --> 01:29:32,190
themselves any favor with a veto
vote.

1475
01:29:32,220 --> 01:29:35,160
Unknown: The US veto in the UN
Security Council was not

1476
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,180
unexpected. Even the cries of
outrage are now growing louder.

1477
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,860
China's Permanent Representative
to the UN Zanjan called the

1478
01:29:43,860 --> 01:29:47,820
decision hypocritical and self
deceiving the Iranian foreign

1479
01:29:47,820 --> 01:29:51,300
minister warned there could be
an uncontrollable explosion of

1480
01:29:51,300 --> 01:29:54,750
the situation in the Middle
East. If America continues its

1481
01:29:54,750 --> 01:29:59,100
support the UEs deputy UN
Ambassador Muhammad Abu Shahab

1482
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,220
said the decision sends the
wrong message to Palestinian

1483
01:30:02,220 --> 01:30:05,460
civilians for Amnesty
International Secretary General

1484
01:30:05,610 --> 01:30:10,530
Agnes Callamard describes the US
as action as a callous disregard

1485
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,280
for civilian suffering. Doctors
Without Borders said the US now

1486
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:18,210
stands alone in costing against
humanity

1487
01:30:19,980 --> 01:30:23,130
has the US is the one sending
weapons and warships have been

1488
01:30:23,130 --> 01:30:26,370
surrounding Gaza for 20 years.
The arms and rockets have been

1489
01:30:26,370 --> 01:30:29,370
manufactured in America, in
Western countries, as they

1490
01:30:29,370 --> 01:30:32,520
support Israel to kill the
youth, children, women and the

1491
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:36,690
elderly. God is our Savior. When
America vetoed the ceasefire,

1492
01:30:36,690 --> 01:30:39,780
the United Nations and
everywhere else. This veto is

1493
01:30:39,780 --> 01:30:43,350
against the people who are dying
in selling all day and all night

1494
01:30:43,620 --> 01:30:44,820
with American weapons.

1495
01:30:45,660 --> 01:30:50,040
The US veto has prevented a halt
to Israel's brutal attack. The

1496
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,940
cry for a ceasefire and now
growing stronger as evidence of

1497
01:30:53,940 --> 01:30:57,180
genocide mounts against Israel.
Yeah,

1498
01:30:57,630 --> 01:31:00,120
Adam Curry: there you go.
Everybody hates America. Now.

1499
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,450
Well done. Joe. Well done. I'm
sure your base will love that.

1500
01:31:03,660 --> 01:31:07,350
Now we need to counter this
myth, this message. This is no

1501
01:31:07,350 --> 01:31:13,020
good. So let's call Joe and Mika
over there at MSNBC. And let's

1502
01:31:13,020 --> 01:31:17,220
launch the new campaign. We need
to blame somebody. We need to

1503
01:31:17,220 --> 01:31:20,970
blame this on somebody. And
these these people. They're

1504
01:31:20,970 --> 01:31:23,790
taking it. I mean, they're,
they're going with false flag

1505
01:31:23,790 --> 01:31:27,360
now. They're not saying it. But
whatever it is.

1506
01:31:27,690 --> 01:31:31,380
John C Dvorak: Well, just as a
reminder, we had the head of the

1507
01:31:31,380 --> 01:31:35,700
Council on Foreign Relations on
that show, telling them to kick

1508
01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:36,750
off a new campaign.

1509
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,330
Adam Curry: Well, that no that
but that was a campaign that was

1510
01:31:39,330 --> 01:31:40,140
to end

1511
01:31:40,230 --> 01:31:43,020
John C Dvorak: Ukraine. This is
the different war. Well, I know

1512
01:31:43,020 --> 01:31:44,070
but it's are

1513
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:45,390
Adam Curry: they get the
messages? Yeah. They get the

1514
01:31:45,390 --> 01:31:50,670
messages. That's that's your
point. Yeah. Well, it's Richard

1515
01:31:50,670 --> 01:31:54,690
angle. So this time they brought
in Richard angle.

1516
01:31:54,810 --> 01:31:57,690
John C Dvorak: Richard. Richard
angle. Okay. So yeah,

1517
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,280
Adam Curry: the message is, it's
Bibi Netanyahu, whose fault

1518
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:03,300
people were hurting

1519
01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:05,850
Unknown: your peace, the
frustration with the Israeli

1520
01:32:05,850 --> 01:32:09,780
military response, the time that
it took on October 7, to reach

1521
01:32:09,780 --> 01:32:11,730
those kibbutz, as we were
talking about that a bit

1522
01:32:11,730 --> 01:32:15,810
yesterday on this show. What do
officials say about that long

1523
01:32:15,810 --> 01:32:17,760
span of time before they can get
there?

1524
01:32:18,150 --> 01:32:21,630
They are saying absolutely
nothing. They are postponing

1525
01:32:21,630 --> 01:32:27,150
that question until after the
war is over. And it's many

1526
01:32:27,150 --> 01:32:30,180
Israelis initially were
accepting that and they said

1527
01:32:30,180 --> 01:32:33,600
fine. This is a national time of
national crisis, National

1528
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,100
Emergency investigations will be
held later. But as time passes,

1529
01:32:38,130 --> 01:32:41,760
they are they are demanding
answers. How could it possibly

1530
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,580
have taken in just that was
eight hours in other places it

1531
01:32:44,580 --> 01:32:48,540
was longer. We spoke to people
who are hiding by the side of

1532
01:32:48,540 --> 01:32:54,720
the road for 10 1214 hours, some
cases 24 hours. This is a

1533
01:32:54,720 --> 01:33:00,120
country with a military active
police force that has lots of

1534
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,690
planes, lots of helicopters, how
could it possibly and it's a

1535
01:33:03,690 --> 01:33:07,470
small country, how could they
have missed what looked like an

1536
01:33:07,470 --> 01:33:11,610
army crossing the border, the
Hamas militants crossed in

1537
01:33:11,610 --> 01:33:15,420
Israel, most of them in a
militarized uniform in green,

1538
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:20,670
many of them in vehicles on
motorcycles. They vending we're

1539
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:24,690
setting fires rampaging the
Israelis throughout, we're

1540
01:33:24,690 --> 01:33:27,810
calling each other
communicating. I've spoken to

1541
01:33:27,810 --> 01:33:32,100
families of survivors who manage
themselves to send friends and

1542
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:35,970
relatives to go rescue people
before there was any kind of

1543
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,630
military or police response. So
there was a not just an

1544
01:33:39,630 --> 01:33:43,140
intelligence failure to do not
anticipate this attack, but then

1545
01:33:43,140 --> 01:33:47,550
a complete failure in responding
to it. And the official line is,

1546
01:33:47,670 --> 01:33:51,630
yes, there was a failure. We
will deal with that at a later

1547
01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:54,210
time and there will be a full
and thorough investigation.

1548
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,000
Adam Curry: Ah, so the message
is clear. Thank you very much

1549
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:01,890
CIA guys. So mica, Mica. Come on
baby. Do your business, Richard.

1550
01:34:01,890 --> 01:34:04,650
Unknown: So Israel also now
saying it has detained hundreds

1551
01:34:04,650 --> 01:34:07,920
of people suspected of
terrorism? What more can you

1552
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:08,760
tell us about that?

1553
01:34:11,370 --> 01:34:15,840
So there is a considerable
amount of confusion about these,

1554
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:20,370
these these images that many
people are finding disturbing.

1555
01:34:20,700 --> 01:34:24,420
They show they were broadcast on
Israeli television extensively

1556
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:29,550
yesterday, and they show at
least 100 Palestinians on the

1557
01:34:29,550 --> 01:34:33,330
ground, stripped down to their
underwear holding their their

1558
01:34:33,330 --> 01:34:37,140
head in their hands with is
regarded by Israeli troops and

1559
01:34:37,140 --> 01:34:40,680
the Israeli military spokesman
said that they were not

1560
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:45,240
officially released by the
military. He didn't deny them

1561
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,980
but he said he didn't know if or
when Israeli soldiers may have

1562
01:34:49,980 --> 01:34:54,390
taken them. But he said that the
the main mission is to confront

1563
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:58,620
Hamas and go after Hamas
suspects wherever they are.

1564
01:34:58,890 --> 01:35:03,300
Israeli media said that they
were men who were arrested in

1565
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:06,780
Gaza, and that some of them
included Hamas suspects who turn

1566
01:35:06,780 --> 01:35:12,000
themselves in. very differently.
They say that this was an

1567
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:16,680
attempt by Israeli forces to to
humiliate Palestinians and break

1568
01:35:16,710 --> 01:35:20,610
the will of the people. Response
Time question is not just a

1569
01:35:20,610 --> 01:35:24,510
little follow up, we'll leave
for later. This is a disturbing

1570
01:35:24,510 --> 01:35:30,030
reality eight hours is rule is
the size of what Massachusetts

1571
01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:37,440
maybe Benjamin Netanyahu was
very quick to declare war, he

1572
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:41,580
could assess the situation and
realize that Israel was at war,

1573
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:46,740
but eight hours to get to women
who are being raped, by the way

1574
01:35:46,770 --> 01:35:52,500
for a year for months.
Disregarding a female analyst

1575
01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:56,280
who said this is coming, there's
a 40 page document, spelling it

1576
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,570
out. And I want to spell this
out even more. For you. Think

1577
01:36:00,570 --> 01:36:04,140
about it. This is a small
country, these gave crossings

1578
01:36:04,170 --> 01:36:09,450
are militarized. You're gonna
tell me they don't have cameras,

1579
01:36:09,690 --> 01:36:13,380
you're gonna tell me. They don't
have panic buttons, you're going

1580
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:17,340
to tell me they have absolutely
no communication with the

1581
01:36:17,340 --> 01:36:20,340
outside world. But they could
there was no warning of this

1582
01:36:21,090 --> 01:36:24,930
sign of this, there was no way
to know that we immediately need

1583
01:36:24,930 --> 01:36:29,820
to respond and get there within
minutes. This is a problematic

1584
01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:36,240
question. And it's it's fair to
ask, it should be asked now. And

1585
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,090
quite frankly, how does the
administration go forward?

1586
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:42,180
Without knowing the answer?
We're suffering the

1587
01:36:42,180 --> 01:36:45,270
repercussions here in the United
States. We're learning a lot

1588
01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:50,640
about attitudes and the response
to this complex situation. But

1589
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,440
that question needs to be
answered.

1590
01:36:52,740 --> 01:36:54,720
Adam Curry: That wasn't my bell
by the way. For some reason.

1591
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,970
They're using a bell now. I
think that was her Your time's

1592
01:36:56,970 --> 01:37:00,780
up from the control room. So
that's there it is. There's your

1593
01:37:00,780 --> 01:37:03,690
answer. It's Bibi Netanyahu
whose fault Yeah,

1594
01:37:03,690 --> 01:37:07,440
John C Dvorak: but here's what's
that stage one of the I don't

1595
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:08,880
want to say of the up,

1596
01:37:09,150 --> 01:37:10,080
Adam Curry: I'll say it. No

1597
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,190
John C Dvorak: problem is the
stage one, stage two, which is

1598
01:37:14,190 --> 01:37:19,500
already starting to float around
and surface is Netanyahu knew

1599
01:37:19,500 --> 01:37:23,550
this was coming. He wanted it to
happen so he could make his move

1600
01:37:23,580 --> 01:37:25,560
against the Palestinians.

1601
01:37:28,290 --> 01:37:30,330
Adam Curry: Makes nothing but
sense because

1602
01:37:30,330 --> 01:37:32,550
John C Dvorak: he did this on
purpose. Yeah, it wasn't a

1603
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:34,470
failure of intelligence. So

1604
01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:36,630
Adam Curry: of course that's
that is the that's why I said

1605
01:37:36,630 --> 01:37:41,010
they're moving towards false now
he's done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

1606
01:37:41,010 --> 01:37:42,420
that and then the woke when?

1607
01:37:44,910 --> 01:37:53,100
John C Dvorak: And yeah, and
Israel goes all queer approach

1608
01:37:53,220 --> 01:37:54,000
to queer

1609
01:37:54,030 --> 01:37:56,700
Adam Curry: approaches to
Israel, queers for Palestine.

1610
01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:57,210
Oh, yeah.

1611
01:37:57,210 --> 01:37:59,730
John C Dvorak: And queer history
Israel queer should yeah, it's

1612
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:05,310
just it's, it's this is the
untold part of the story. These

1613
01:38:05,670 --> 01:38:11,100
the I guess somebody even came
in I said, Israel is probably

1614
01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:14,130
the most gay country in the
world. This whole thing is

1615
01:38:14,220 --> 01:38:15,690
simmering underneath this

1616
01:38:16,890 --> 01:38:19,560
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that
that was part of the whole the

1617
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,290
whole protest against him that
this is what we know all those

1618
01:38:22,290 --> 01:38:25,830
protests were as I was told from
boots on the ground, very

1619
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:33,210
similar to Black Lives Matter
matters. During Trump Yeah. Now

1620
01:38:33,210 --> 01:38:37,440
they do have an out they've
created an out yah, yah sin wha

1621
01:38:37,470 --> 01:38:40,200
that's the guy we're now after.
Yeah, yes. In WA. If we can,

1622
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,930
yeah, well, yeah, we can get
Yaya, then I think we can end

1623
01:38:42,930 --> 01:38:45,960
this what is the very latest in
terms of the fighting?

1624
01:38:49,290 --> 01:38:52,950
Unknown: Almost impossible to
judge on the accuracy of what's

1625
01:38:53,370 --> 01:38:57,570
the reports coming from the
Israeli military. But they do

1626
01:38:57,570 --> 01:39:01,110
say that they're making
progress. They say that Hamas is

1627
01:39:01,110 --> 01:39:04,290
military structures are
beginning to break down that

1628
01:39:04,290 --> 01:39:07,980
brigade structures are beginning
to collapse. As more and more

1629
01:39:08,310 --> 01:39:11,100
fighters are killed. The
Australia has claimed round

1630
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:14,880
about 7000. Hamas fighters have
been killed since the war

1631
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,480
started after October the
seventh, as I said, impossible

1632
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:24,750
to verify that but if it's true,
that's about 25% of Hamas is arm

1633
01:39:24,750 --> 01:39:27,690
strength and it would indicate
that it is beginning to fall

1634
01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:32,010
apart. And there are signs to
the morale is beginning to

1635
01:39:32,250 --> 01:39:36,990
collapse a bit. Hamas fighters
surrendering in the northern

1636
01:39:36,990 --> 01:39:41,940
part of Gaza in the Jabalia
refugee camp in the South yokkao

1637
01:39:41,940 --> 01:39:45,810
Sin Well, that's the commander
of Hamas in Gaza as house has

1638
01:39:45,810 --> 01:39:50,010
been surrounded. Israel's
describing that as a symbolic

1639
01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:53,010
victory for them nothing more
than that, but say they will get

1640
01:39:53,010 --> 01:39:56,760
Yahya sinwar under they will
kill him eventually, that he's

1641
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:03,540
got no perhaps moments, the
fighting is going on very, very

1642
01:40:03,540 --> 01:40:08,220
intensely house to house from
top to bottom of Gaza. The

1643
01:40:08,220 --> 01:40:13,620
Israelis have a high newness to
main city in the south of Gaza

1644
01:40:13,620 --> 01:40:17,910
surrounded now with armor and
that pressing forward into the

1645
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:21,210
city on the grounds that the
same time they're calling people

1646
01:40:21,210 --> 01:40:24,870
to evacuate. As you said, the
introduction to this report.

1647
01:40:24,900 --> 01:40:25,230
Yeah, I

1648
01:40:25,230 --> 01:40:26,760
Adam Curry: think that's the guy
Yeah.

1649
01:40:28,410 --> 01:40:30,390
John C Dvorak: Kind of name that
we were always looking for like

1650
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,720
that cigarette guy Six Sigma,
whoever it was in Africa.

1651
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:36,060
There's been a bunch of these
characters. They're always have

1652
01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:37,200
stupid names. Yeah,

1653
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:40,470
Adam Curry: yeah. And yeah, it's
easy to remember we can remember

1654
01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:41,310
is easy.

1655
01:40:41,310 --> 01:40:43,680
John C Dvorak: And, you know,
it's rhymes and certain songs

1656
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:44,820
have to Yeah,

1657
01:40:44,850 --> 01:40:49,620
Adam Curry: sit in my yard. From
a Yeah, yeah. Sin walks. So

1658
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:51,810
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. So
they're gonna get him even

1659
01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:53,460
though they have his house
around it. I don't know why they

1660
01:40:53,460 --> 01:40:56,280
just don't walk in and get him.
But right now it's around. And I

1661
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,920
guess they said eventually,
they'll get in there somehow.

1662
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:00,630
And so just bomb in place. And

1663
01:41:00,660 --> 01:41:03,300
Adam Curry: you know, so. And
this will only last as long as

1664
01:41:03,450 --> 01:41:05,940
Netanyahu can come up with
something to save his own hide,

1665
01:41:05,940 --> 01:41:09,060
because he's got to come up with
a counter to the counter. Now

1666
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:11,190
he'll do something he's in
trouble. He's in trouble. Well,

1667
01:41:11,190 --> 01:41:14,370
no, he's, and he's, I mean,
really, the only thing he needs

1668
01:41:14,370 --> 01:41:17,910
to do here is just keep going.
But eventually, you know,

1669
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:24,690
because the good terrace. he
invoked Article, I think 99 or

1670
01:41:24,690 --> 01:41:25,740
something of

1671
01:41:25,770 --> 01:41:27,690
John C Dvorak: Oh, good
terrorists is just a Israel

1672
01:41:27,690 --> 01:41:28,230
hater.

1673
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:35,370
Adam Curry: So when you invoke
Well, at this point we need to

1674
01:41:35,370 --> 01:41:40,140
stop the war. We the killing can
stop anytime now. You know, it's

1675
01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:42,720
I think everyone's made their
point was somebody's got

1676
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,400
John C Dvorak: to come up with a
way to do it. That's the

1677
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,940
problem. Seems that all these
western countries can get into

1678
01:41:47,940 --> 01:41:50,940
these quagmires and they can't
get out. Because, you know,

1679
01:41:51,330 --> 01:41:54,750
here's another interesting
irony. We always bitch and moan

1680
01:41:54,750 --> 01:41:58,260
about the Asians. And they're
the way they deal with things

1681
01:41:58,260 --> 01:42:02,160
they have to come out. They have
to save face, it's so important

1682
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,160
for them. Because they're there,
they've got their egos are all

1683
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:10,140
tied up and saving face. I have
never seen anything worse than

1684
01:42:10,140 --> 01:42:14,370
the Americans, the Europeans and
everybody outside of Asia,

1685
01:42:14,580 --> 01:42:19,290
having to save face. We're the
ones we have to save face. We

1686
01:42:19,290 --> 01:42:21,570
just can't walk away from
anything. Oh, because we're

1687
01:42:21,570 --> 01:42:23,730
losing. We're embarrassing.
That's

1688
01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:29,520
Adam Curry: true. That's true.
And when I I'm going to move

1689
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,370
away from this for a second go,
but since it's still genocide,

1690
01:42:32,370 --> 01:42:36,900
Joe back to Biden, because just
when we're getting ready to, you

1691
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:40,110
know, the message has gone out,
Hey, we got to stop this, we got

1692
01:42:40,110 --> 01:42:44,790
to stop the Ukraine thing. And
that's now being used for some

1693
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:48,120
border stuff, which is all bull
crap. They're going to stick it

1694
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,550
all in there. They're going to
give Ukraine more money for a

1695
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:54,900
little bit longer. But we needed
to ratchet it up one more step,

1696
01:42:54,900 --> 01:42:59,580
just one more. And this is a
setup by Kirby and then I'll

1697
01:42:59,580 --> 01:43:01,380
play the actual Biden clip.

1698
01:43:01,470 --> 01:43:04,680
Unknown: So we can't support
Ukraine. Their chief adviser

1699
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,610
yesterday said they're likely to
lose this war, if they lose us

1700
01:43:08,610 --> 01:43:11,910
support. And Putin gets all of
Ukraine, then what? Then?

1701
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:14,970
Where's he go? Because right,
then he's up against the Eastern

1702
01:43:14,970 --> 01:43:17,850
Flank of NATO. And if you think
the cost of supporting Ukraine

1703
01:43:17,850 --> 01:43:21,180
is high now, just imagine how
much higher it's going to be not

1704
01:43:21,180 --> 01:43:25,230
just in national treasure, but
in American blood, if he starts

1705
01:43:25,230 --> 01:43:27,510
going after one of our NATO
allies, because as the President

1706
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:31,170
also said, we take our Article
Five commitments very seriously.

1707
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:31,650
So the

1708
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,710
Adam Curry: so what he's saying
here now, this is this is I

1709
01:43:34,710 --> 01:43:39,240
mean, this is not even to be
taken seriously, is the if we

1710
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:45,750
don't keep using Ukrainian men,
as cannon fodder to be blown up

1711
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:48,480
every single day. There's
another Abrams tank, there's

1712
01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:51,720
another Bradley vehicle, these
things are getting blown up one

1713
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:52,680
after another. It's

1714
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,630
John C Dvorak: yeah, once they
show up, they get blown up, get

1715
01:43:54,630 --> 01:43:55,110
blown up

1716
01:43:55,110 --> 01:43:57,810
Adam Curry: continuously. It's
all bull crap. It's all lies.

1717
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:02,850
It's not true. So now we're
saying, you know, if we don't go

1718
01:44:02,850 --> 01:44:07,140
for the original truce, which I
would like to point out,

1719
01:44:07,500 --> 01:44:11,130
according that I will use the
language of our producers who

1720
01:44:11,130 --> 01:44:15,300
are very mad, very mad, that
we're really mad about why we

1721
01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:19,230
didn't call Henry Kissinger, a
war criminal. You see,

1722
01:44:20,250 --> 01:44:23,070
John C Dvorak: so I will I
hadn't I don't want to interrupt

1723
01:44:23,070 --> 01:44:28,890
the train. But I had a good guy.
Yeah, but I'm going to some guy

1724
01:44:28,890 --> 01:44:32,730
writes for you, you know, he's a
war criminal. Why don't you say

1725
01:44:32,730 --> 01:44:35,910
it you know, when you said, and
so you know, you know who this

1726
01:44:35,910 --> 01:44:41,700
guy is some Dutch guy. And so
I'm, I'm I think, and so I still

1727
01:44:41,700 --> 01:44:43,800
want somebody to give me an
example. How was he a war

1728
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:48,630
criminal? Cambodia? Oh, really?
He went over to Cambodia. I

1729
01:44:48,630 --> 01:44:51,270
didn't know that. I thought it
was over here all the time. You

1730
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:56,190
mean he advised Nixon perhaps to
bomb Cambodia and then Nixon

1731
01:44:56,190 --> 01:45:00,540
bombed Cambodia, or he advised
you Lyndon Johnson tend to go

1732
01:45:00,630 --> 01:45:04,890
deeper into North Vietnam and
bomb. I mean, he advised one

1733
01:45:04,890 --> 01:45:08,520
president after the other. It's
the president who's the war

1734
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,940
criminal. He doesn't have to
take Henry Kissinger's advice.

1735
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:16,770
But yet when when Lyndon Johnson
died, nobody said he was a war

1736
01:45:16,770 --> 01:45:20,190
criminal. When Nixon died,
nobody called him a war

1737
01:45:20,190 --> 01:45:24,720
criminal. But poor Henry
Kissinger, he dies. Somehow he's

1738
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,600
the war criminal because all he
did was sit on his ass at a

1739
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:31,050
desk. He didn't pull a gun out.
He didn't carry a gun. He didn't

1740
01:45:31,050 --> 01:45:33,930
shoot anybody, but he's a war
criminal. For what?

1741
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,140
Adam Curry: For being a Jew.
Come on, you know, this. Sounds

1742
01:45:37,140 --> 01:45:42,330
obvious. So by the same logic,
by the same logic, Boris Johnson

1743
01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:46,200
is a war criminal, because he
thwarted the peace he prolong

1744
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,400
the war between Russia and
Ukraine. This is fact unknown,

1745
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:55,170
and there's no disagreement over
this. Nobody has denied it. And

1746
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,470
all Putin wanted was the buffer,
which he's going to get

1747
01:45:58,470 --> 01:46:05,760
eventually 700,000 men have died
I'll guess just No, look, I'm no

1748
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,510
Hamas health authority. But when
it comes to Ukraine, those

1749
01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:12,840
numbers are probably pretty
accurate. A lot of Russians a

1750
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:17,010
lot of Ukrainians died over this
silliness, the stupidity,

1751
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:22,260
probably just to cover up the
crimes of our political elites,

1752
01:46:22,290 --> 01:46:26,880
including the Biden's including
the Pelosi that doesn't carry

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kid labs,

1754
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,900
John C Dvorak: the lab Bio Labs
all over Ukraine, nobody's

1755
01:46:30,930 --> 01:46:33,150
talking about that anymore.
Bring up all all

1756
01:46:33,150 --> 01:46:36,840
Adam Curry: of these crimes, the
money laundering, the the

1757
01:46:37,050 --> 01:46:41,130
cybercrime, the hookers, all of
it. There's always hookers

1758
01:46:41,130 --> 01:46:45,420
involved to cover all of that to
create an even better crime

1759
01:46:45,420 --> 01:46:49,410
state. No, we had to delay all
that and just kill some people

1760
01:46:49,410 --> 01:46:53,670
who cares. Ursula is invalid.
They're all involved in this is

1761
01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:57,600
no secret to us. We tried to
just deconstruct media anyway,

1762
01:46:57,930 --> 01:47:05,970
to bring it back. This is now
the new Gambit is no no. If If

1763
01:47:05,970 --> 01:47:11,130
Ukraine falls then they're going
to attack what?

1764
01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:14,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah. domino
theory over again from the

1765
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:16,800
1960s. Poland. Is

1766
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,110
Adam Curry: that who they're
gonna attack really Poland?

1767
01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:19,350
That'll

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01:47:19,350 --> 01:47:22,620
John C Dvorak: be the day and
but you've got well,

1769
01:47:22,620 --> 01:47:25,110
Adam Curry: let's listen to the
to the current president. Good

1770
01:47:25,110 --> 01:47:28,260
Unknown: afternoon, everyone. I
would like to speak to you today

1771
01:47:28,440 --> 01:47:33,300
about an urgent responsibility.
The Congress has to uphold the

1772
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:36,330
national security needs of the
United States. And quite

1773
01:47:36,330 --> 01:47:41,490
frankly, of our partners as
well. This cannot wait. Congress

1774
01:47:41,490 --> 01:47:46,320
needs to pass supplemental
funding for Ukraine before they

1775
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,770
break for the holiday resources
as simple as that. Frankly, I

1776
01:47:49,770 --> 01:47:52,350
think it's stunning that we've
gotten to this point in the

1777
01:47:52,350 --> 01:47:55,920
first place of Congressman
Publix and Congress's are

1778
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,100
willing to give Putin the
greatest gift he could hope for

1779
01:47:59,700 --> 01:48:03,180
and abandon our global
leadership, not just Ukraine.

1780
01:48:03,180 --> 01:48:08,250
But beyond it Putin takes
Ukraine, he won't stop there.

1781
01:48:08,910 --> 01:48:12,120
It's important to see the long
run here. He's gonna keep going.

1782
01:48:12,570 --> 01:48:15,360
He's made that pretty clear
Putin attacks and NATO ally,

1783
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:20,190
then we'll have something that
we don't seek, and that we don't

1784
01:48:20,190 --> 01:48:24,120
have today, American troops
fighting Russian troops,

1785
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,720
American troops fighting Russian
troops if he moves into other

1786
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,900
parts of NATO. Extreme
Republicans are playing chicken

1787
01:48:30,900 --> 01:48:34,560
with our national security,
holding Ukraine's funding

1788
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,920
hostage to their extreme
partisan border policies. And

1789
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:41,340
now they're willing to literally
kneecap Ukraine on the

1790
01:48:41,340 --> 01:48:45,060
battlefield and damage our
national security the process.

1791
01:48:45,540 --> 01:48:45,810
Well

1792
01:48:45,810 --> 01:48:48,840
Adam Curry: buckle up everybody
because I do not put it beyond

1793
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:52,800
these people at all to create
some kind of false flag. I'm

1794
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:59,730
gonna say it, I'll just say it.
And they want war so bad. No, I

1795
01:48:59,730 --> 01:49:02,250
know everyone's gonna say no,
what's the Zinus now is Joe

1796
01:49:02,250 --> 01:49:06,660
Biden, his Blinken, bomber, all
the all these people, they're

1797
01:49:06,660 --> 01:49:10,140
all horrible. They love war.
They don't care. They don't

1798
01:49:10,140 --> 01:49:15,810
care. We should be happy that
Putin is reserved. And by the

1799
01:49:15,810 --> 01:49:19,050
way, he's of course running for
reelection. BBC time President

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Putin

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01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:21,600
Unknown: wasn't even looking at
the camera. When he announced

1802
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:25,950
today he was seeking another six
years in office is muffled words

1803
01:49:25,950 --> 01:49:29,550
were picked up by nearby
microphone at a ceremony to

1804
01:49:29,550 --> 01:49:33,690
award medals to soldiers
fighting in Ukraine. He was told

1805
01:49:33,690 --> 01:49:37,080
by one of them Russia needs you.
To which he replied,

1806
01:49:38,370 --> 01:49:41,280
I will not hide that I have had
different thoughts at different

1807
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:45,270
times. But it's now time to make
a decision. But now is the right

1808
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:49,740
time, the time when the decision
needs to be made. I will run for

1809
01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:52,770
the position of president of the
Russian Federation,

1810
01:49:53,340 --> 01:49:56,250
where it will be Mr. Putin's
fifth term and we're leading

1811
01:49:56,250 --> 01:49:59,970
opposition figures either
imprisoned or in exile voting

1812
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,540
and is expected to be a
formality and his reelection

1813
01:50:03,810 --> 01:50:04,590
assured.

1814
01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:08,250
Adam Curry: Now, analysis of
this is even more interesting

1815
01:50:08,250 --> 01:50:13,290
from the BBC. Because, as we
know, election rigging doesn't

1816
01:50:13,290 --> 01:50:17,610
happen anywhere. No, Trump is an
idiot. It was the it was the

1817
01:50:17,610 --> 01:50:21,360
fairest election ever. But when
it comes to Putin,

1818
01:50:22,140 --> 01:50:25,980
Unknown: there's clearly no
doubt in his mind and the minds

1819
01:50:26,010 --> 01:50:31,590
of those that surround him that
he will be reelected. There's

1820
01:50:31,590 --> 01:50:35,190
no question about that. And we
even have already a sense of

1821
01:50:35,190 --> 01:50:39,960
what it's likely to be. In terms
of the results. Apparently,

1822
01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:43,980
Putin's spin doctors and
political technicians are

1823
01:50:43,980 --> 01:50:49,140
working on a 75 to 80% share of
the vote on a 70% turnout,

1824
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:52,650
because they want to make some
kind of grand gesture about how

1825
01:50:52,650 --> 01:50:56,430
the Russian people are behind
them. But that said, although

1826
01:50:56,460 --> 01:51:00,090
the outcome of the election is
not in doubt, the interesting

1827
01:51:00,090 --> 01:51:04,170
thing about Russian elections is
how much work the Kremlin's will

1828
01:51:04,170 --> 01:51:08,460
have to do to get that result.
In theory, it can just rig the

1829
01:51:08,460 --> 01:51:12,270
whole thing. Now, because it's
introducing voting over three

1830
01:51:12,270 --> 01:51:16,500
days and a lot of electronic
voting, which makes rigging even

1831
01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:21,570
simpler than before. However, if
you rigged it to, obviously to

1832
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,960
offensively show say, not only
does it mean that you're going

1833
01:51:24,990 --> 01:51:27,540
to win the kind of public
legitimacy that you hope for,

1834
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,480
but also there's a risk that it
sparks public protests it has in

1835
01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:34,200
the past 2011 2012 We saw the
largest protests in Russia since

1836
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:39,600
1991. Because of that reason, so
instead, a lot of how do you pre

1837
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:44,820
read, buying off constituencies?
And in particular, making sure

1838
01:51:44,820 --> 01:51:48,600
that you stack the campaign so
that none of the other

1839
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,770
candidates look at all appealing
or credible tell

1840
01:51:52,770 --> 01:51:55,680
Adam Curry: there it is. Don't
worry, besides the fact that

1841
01:51:55,710 --> 01:52:00,120
Putin is clearly has cancer and
his dead will be dead any minute

1842
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:03,570
now. He looks so sick. Now. Now
he's going to rig his own

1843
01:52:03,570 --> 01:52:07,170
election. This is exactly how
insane we become. Now we have

1844
01:52:07,170 --> 01:52:10,770
two new puppets on the playing
field. This is important to pay

1845
01:52:10,770 --> 01:52:15,120
attention to because the Lensky
has done that once you went with

1846
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,850
the Hey man, give us some
credit. Give us some credit. Now

1847
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:23,370
he was done. He doesn't have the
juice. Juice, ju ice troll room.

1848
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:28,980
Okay, the juice. You gotta you
gotta clarify that everything's

1849
01:52:28,980 --> 01:52:34,020
these trolls. You know, his
recent appearance in front of

1850
01:52:34,290 --> 01:52:38,970
Congress was canceled. So we
have two puppets on the scene

1851
01:52:38,970 --> 01:52:46,620
now for the Republicans. We have
rousse llansteffan shook head of

1852
01:52:46,620 --> 01:52:51,300
Ukrainian parliament. He is this
huge. I mean, the guy is gotta

1853
01:52:51,300 --> 01:52:56,850
be six, six foot seven teeth.
You know, he was here he is with

1854
01:52:57,210 --> 01:53:03,000
shaking Mike Johnson's hand, the
Speaker of the House, within

1855
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:07,770
your black all black military
style fatigues. And he is in

1856
01:53:07,770 --> 01:53:12,750
fact number he is. Number two in
line should anything happen to

1857
01:53:12,750 --> 01:53:17,250
Zelinsky. But then all of a
sudden, I'm going to think

1858
01:53:17,250 --> 01:53:21,210
Military Industrial Complex
puppet pops up. Welcome back.

1859
01:53:21,210 --> 01:53:22,710
Poroshenko Hello, and

1860
01:53:22,710 --> 01:53:25,950
Unknown: welcome to Tetteh Ted
France. 24th flagship interview

1861
01:53:25,950 --> 01:53:29,250
show. Our guest today is Petro
Poroshenko. He is the former

1862
01:53:29,250 --> 01:53:32,790
President of Ukraine and the
leader of the opposition. He

1863
01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:35,910
joins us from Kyiv, the capital
of Ukraine. Thank you very much,

1864
01:53:35,910 --> 01:53:39,330
Mr. Poroshenko. It's a pleasure.
Thank you for the invitation.

1865
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:44,730
Mr. Poroshenko, the US Senate
has decided for now to withhold

1866
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:50,670
a major package of financial and
military aid for Ukraine. There

1867
01:53:50,670 --> 01:53:55,710
is a forthcoming European Union
summit next week also to decide

1868
01:53:55,710 --> 01:53:58,830
whether there should be
financial and military aid to

1869
01:53:58,830 --> 01:54:02,820
Ukraine, no guarantee that there
will be agreement on this. Are

1870
01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:07,530
you worried that the West is
losing faith in Ukraine and is

1871
01:54:07,530 --> 01:54:11,490
not going to provide Ukraine
with the financial and military

1872
01:54:11,490 --> 01:54:18,000
assistance it needs. For us to
understand that this next week,

1873
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:23,190
or next seven days, is one of
the most important day in

1874
01:54:23,190 --> 01:54:27,960
Ukrainian history. And
undoubtedly, very important

1875
01:54:28,380 --> 01:54:33,660
for Europe. And for the rest
situation. This is not just a

1876
01:54:33,660 --> 01:54:37,890
package for assistance Ukraine,
we discussed with the United

1877
01:54:37,890 --> 01:54:43,650
States. This is the investment
in the American security in the

1878
01:54:43,650 --> 01:54:48,990
American defense capability. And
with that situation, I hate the

1879
01:54:48,990 --> 01:54:55,320
idea that Ukraine can appear the
hostage of different Arbic

1880
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:59,760
questions included in the
question for the internal policy

1881
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:01,830
for the Let's hear election. Now

1882
01:55:01,830 --> 01:55:05,250
Adam Curry: if I had to bet on
it I'd say Poroshenko is the guy

1883
01:55:06,090 --> 01:55:10,110
he's the guy that is going to be
brought in to create the truce

1884
01:55:10,620 --> 01:55:14,070
that we will get American
weapons defense this is all been

1885
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:18,180
flushed out I think already
Poroshenko who was brought back

1886
01:55:18,180 --> 01:55:23,400
to Ukraine to face treason and
you know whatever be of treason

1887
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,730
charges literally three treason
charges. So now he's they're

1888
01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:30,600
just hanging out doing a little
interviews with Deutsche Avella.

1889
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:34,080
I think he's the guy. He's the
guy that will they'll be brought

1890
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:39,090
in. The truce will be signed.
This guy's a CIA guy to be fired

1891
01:55:39,090 --> 01:55:42,420
as as Deutsche Avella has asked
him. Thank you. Did you hear

1892
01:55:42,420 --> 01:55:44,730
them leading the witness, by the
way with that question?

1893
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:47,040
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
amateur.

1894
01:55:48,210 --> 01:55:51,810
Adam Curry: So I think that's
that's where we're at. I think

1895
01:55:51,810 --> 01:55:57,000
that's, that is the that's the
basic Yeah,

1896
01:55:57,090 --> 01:55:59,130
John C Dvorak: but there's
something going on. I think the

1897
01:55:59,130 --> 01:56:01,770
reason for all this money right
now just before if they keep

1898
01:56:01,770 --> 01:56:04,560
talking about before the
holidays is because this is when

1899
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,500
their fiscal year is going to
end for a couple of these these

1900
01:56:07,500 --> 01:56:11,520
giant defense contractors and
they need to get their bonuses

1901
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,510
figured out and it's always a
piece of the action and so

1902
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:18,060
they're gonna get their
Christmas bonuses this year.

1903
01:56:18,060 --> 01:56:21,870
They're gonna get it next year.
And so they gotta get that put

1904
01:56:21,870 --> 01:56:25,530
put aside, and that's what the
reason for the panic is yes.

1905
01:56:26,370 --> 01:56:37,200
Adam Curry: Yes. There's Let me
see. I'm going to bring in AI

1906
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:41,070
into this conversation because
there is some AI news. As you

1907
01:56:41,070 --> 01:56:42,420
know, AI it's the future

1908
01:56:43,890 --> 01:56:46,080
John C Dvorak: of bullcrap
future humor, if you watch

1909
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,540
enough of these clips of
Hillary, well,

1910
01:56:48,810 --> 01:56:51,480
Adam Curry: well, here's here's
a good one. I like this AI,

1911
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,180
which, of course, we have
regulation everywhere. This is

1912
01:56:54,210 --> 01:56:56,550
AI is the most dangerous thing
in the world, if you ever want

1913
01:56:56,550 --> 01:57:02,190
to prove that AI was bad. Al
Jazeera has the latest on the AI

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01:57:02,190 --> 01:57:05,760
that is killing Palestinians,
more than two months of Israeli

1915
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:09,630
bombing have turned the Gaza
strip into a hellscape entire

1916
01:57:09,630 --> 01:57:13,470
neighborhoods had been wiped out
made uninhabitable with more

1917
01:57:13,470 --> 01:57:17,850
than 16,000 Palestinians killed.
It is a population on the run

1918
01:57:18,090 --> 01:57:22,200
and unfolding genocide. And we
now know that the unprecedented

1919
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:26,490
killing of Gazans is being
powered, at least in part by AI,

1920
01:57:26,940 --> 01:57:29,310
and Israeli artificial
intelligence system that

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01:57:29,310 --> 01:57:33,300
generates new targets at a rate
we have never seen before. We

1922
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:33,690
have

1923
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,890
Unknown: three AI systems, which
operate in concert, we have the

1924
01:57:37,890 --> 01:57:42,180
alchemists system, which
collects information with the

1925
01:57:42,180 --> 01:57:45,390
second layer of this AI system,
which is called the Fire

1926
01:57:45,390 --> 01:57:50,370
factory, which analyzes the data
and the gospel system which

1927
01:57:50,370 --> 01:57:52,560
produces possible military
targets.

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01:57:52,740 --> 01:57:56,160
Adam Curry: Thanks, bro. The
killing of AI is called the

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01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:56,730
gospel,

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01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,480
Unknown: it must be stressed
that every military target which

1931
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:05,880
is attacked from the air by the
IDF goes through an analysis of

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01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:11,580
both intelligence officers and
legal advisors. So while AI

1933
01:58:11,580 --> 01:58:15,030
systems produce potential
targets, at the end of the day,

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01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:18,090
these are human beings which are
authorizing them,

1935
01:58:18,270 --> 01:58:22,170
the Gaza Strip and the occupied
Palestinian territories have

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01:58:22,170 --> 01:58:27,060
become a testing laboratory in
every sense of the word there is

1937
01:58:27,060 --> 01:58:32,640
just simply no limitations to
the extent that Israel can test

1938
01:58:32,670 --> 01:58:35,640
these technologies against
Palestinians. I think the

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01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:43,290
objective is clear. And that is
the annihilation of Palestinians

1940
01:58:43,290 --> 01:58:47,790
in the Gaza Strip and making
Gaza uninhabitable these

1941
01:58:47,790 --> 01:58:52,170
technologies that are used now
in Gaza we should probably

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01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:56,760
upgrade the term from automated
apartheid to automated genocide.

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01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:59,190
Adam Curry: There you go
automated genocide beautiful.

1944
01:58:59,550 --> 01:59:03,510
The screw you guys calling it
the gospel. Bring out the book.

1945
01:59:03,540 --> 01:59:10,920
Stop that nonsense nonsense. The
EU however, has I think I'm

1946
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:11,730
thank you for the left.

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01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:14,820
John C Dvorak: The A What is
funny if you think about it is

1948
01:59:14,850 --> 01:59:19,650
it's it's so gospel. Gent. Yeah.
Okay. Say it. Go

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01:59:19,650 --> 01:59:20,310
Adam Curry: ahead, say it.

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01:59:20,940 --> 01:59:24,300
John C Dvorak: Well, it
basically infers Christian

1951
01:59:24,330 --> 01:59:29,670
Christian. Yes. And so you have
the like a Christian, you know,

1952
01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:35,310
behind the killing done by the
Jews against the Palestinians,

1953
01:59:35,310 --> 01:59:40,980
just the layers of irony and as
far as screwing this is just way

1954
01:59:40,980 --> 01:59:42,840
over the top. So

1955
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:46,380
Adam Curry: the EU completed as
the first ever in the world, Pa

1956
01:59:46,380 --> 01:59:50,190
they're so good. They're the
EU's they can they've just got

1957
01:59:50,190 --> 01:59:54,120
their AI regulation done. Now
this is only the political part

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01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,030
because the actual technical
part will need to come later.

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01:59:57,210 --> 01:59:58,320
But listen to this,

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01:59:58,470 --> 02:00:00,090
Unknown: do you if you and the
union has agreed on on

1961
02:00:00,090 --> 02:00:03,660
legislation to govern the use of
artificial intelligence, the

1962
02:00:03,660 --> 02:00:07,590
deal includes limits on facial
recognition technology, and

1963
02:00:07,590 --> 02:00:11,520
restrictions on using AI to
manipulate human behavior that

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you use as the future legal
framework for AI will include

1965
02:00:15,300 --> 02:00:18,960
tough penalties for companies
breaking the rules, but will not

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02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:22,710
stifle development of the
industry in Euros for those

1967
02:00:22,710 --> 02:00:26,580
years of discussions among
Member States and lawmakers in

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02:00:26,580 --> 02:00:27,810
the European Parliament.

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02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:33,690
We had one objective to deliver
a legislation that would ensure

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that the ecosystem of AI in
Europe would develop with a

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human centric approach
respecting fundamental rights

1972
02:00:40,590 --> 02:00:42,120
and the European values.

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02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:45,810
Adam Curry: Because this is
really something that is much

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02:00:45,810 --> 02:00:49,200
more I believe that book is a
launchpad for the European

1975
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:54,150
startups, and also researchers
to to lead the global race for

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02:00:54,630 --> 02:00:59,550
what our fellow citizens for
trustworthy. Alright, so blah,

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02:00:59,550 --> 02:01:02,370
blah, blah. We did a great job,
everybody. Let's get to the

1978
02:01:02,370 --> 02:01:05,460
details with our Deutsche Abello
tech, Deutsche Bella techno

1979
02:01:05,460 --> 02:01:05,940
douche,

1980
02:01:06,090 --> 02:01:10,260
Unknown: you will divide AI
applications into four risk

1981
02:01:10,260 --> 02:01:13,920
classes, some of them will be
completely forbidden, like

1982
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,910
facial recognition in on a
massive scale. There are some

1983
02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:21,510
exemptions for military and law
enforcement.

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02:01:21,570 --> 02:01:24,210
Adam Curry: Ah, don't worry,
everybody, facial recognition

1985
02:01:24,210 --> 02:01:27,990
not going to happen with a
couple of exemptions for police,

1986
02:01:28,230 --> 02:01:29,730
the police need to do it. And

1987
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Unknown: also the behavioral
control and control of your

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02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:37,830
thoughts that will be also
banned. Except

1989
02:01:37,830 --> 02:01:40,080
Adam Curry: when we need to
control your thoughts at this a

1990
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:43,020
few exemptions in the
controlling your thoughts area.

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02:01:43,260 --> 02:01:43,590
But

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Unknown: high risk applications
for example, in self driving

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02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:52,230
cars will be allowed in the EU
to be certified. The technique

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02:01:52,230 --> 02:01:56,340
has to be open so that everybody
can see how that works. And

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02:01:56,370 --> 02:02:00,780
normally I would call it like
Chet GBT on a medium risk level

1996
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:05,430
that can be in the EU without
any restrictions. But it has to

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02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:09,570
be documented how this thing
works. And everybody has to know

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02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:14,790
that he's dealing with AI that
is not talking to a human. Wait,

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02:02:14,790 --> 02:02:17,100
wait, wait, there's a fourth
category. This is one of the

2000
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:21,300
essential measures in the whole
legislations. You as a consumer

2001
02:02:21,330 --> 02:02:26,040
should always decide do I want
to talk to a machine, I have to

2002
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:30,270
know that it's not human. This
is the basic principle and but

2003
02:02:30,270 --> 02:02:33,690
there are also some AI
applications that could be not

2004
02:02:33,690 --> 02:02:40,770
regulated, for example, audio
and video altering programs that

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02:02:40,770 --> 02:02:44,700
make these well known deep
fakes. These are not regulated,

2006
02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:48,750
they don't pose a high risk in
the view of the EU.

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02:02:49,350 --> 02:02:52,350
Adam Curry: I love it. So we
could do any kind of deep fakes.

2008
02:02:52,350 --> 02:02:56,070
We want an audio and video no
problem. And by the way, I love

2009
02:02:56,070 --> 02:02:59,040
the name that he came up with
chat GP GPT. I think we should

2010
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:00,780
have a chat bot called chit,

2011
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:02,820
John C Dvorak: chit chit chat is

2012
02:03:02,820 --> 02:03:06,660
Adam Curry: a great name for it
for a chat bot. And of course,

2013
02:03:06,660 --> 02:03:07,020
right?

2014
02:03:07,050 --> 02:03:09,510
John C Dvorak: Yes, I just stood
in that conversation. He

2015
02:03:09,510 --> 02:03:14,340
discussed the openness necessary
for the self driving cars. Yes.

2016
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:19,170
Which is the last thing I want.
Because I don't want any every

2017
02:03:19,170 --> 02:03:22,950
hacker in the world going
through the code of a self

2018
02:03:22,950 --> 02:03:28,200
driving car and looking for ways
to defeat the mechanism and for

2019
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:32,040
fool it or have a drive into
over the cliff or across the you

2020
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:35,340
know, across the bridge and then
over the bridge into the drink.

2021
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:38,820
I mean, the you don't want that.
No.

2022
02:03:39,330 --> 02:03:44,910
Adam Curry: Well, the EU, the UK
is lucky because they're no

2023
02:03:44,910 --> 02:03:49,110
longer a part of EU regulation.
And it's, that's great, because

2024
02:03:49,110 --> 02:03:52,380
Brits may now be forced to take
a selfie before they can watch

2025
02:03:52,380 --> 02:03:56,880
porn. You know, because the fate
the the AI will make sure you're

2026
02:03:56,880 --> 02:04:00,210
old enough. That's how they're
going to check that. They have

2027
02:04:00,210 --> 02:04:04,770
one more clip here before Wow,
good one that it's great idea.

2028
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:07,500
Don't worry. It's just making
sure you're old enough. Don't

2029
02:04:07,500 --> 02:04:09,270
worry about the selfie or to
worry

2030
02:04:09,270 --> 02:04:10,920
John C Dvorak: about the fact
that we're going to post these

2031
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:12,810
selfies of the people watching
porn.

2032
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:18,450
Adam Curry: The funniest news
this week was that that fabulous

2033
02:04:18,450 --> 02:04:23,250
demo of Google's Gemini that
everybody was drooling over

2034
02:04:23,310 --> 02:04:25,590
turns out was completely phony
it up.

2035
02:04:26,490 --> 02:04:30,090
John C Dvorak: Gee, wait a
minute, Silicon Valley demo was

2036
02:04:30,090 --> 02:04:33,690
following up. What a genius
idea.

2037
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:36,240
Adam Curry: If you saw it, they
had you know they were talking

2038
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:39,420
to it and it was answering and
they were showing little like

2039
02:04:39,450 --> 02:04:43,470
oh, this drawing a duck. Oh,
that's a Duck QUACK. Except they

2040
02:04:43,500 --> 02:04:47,130
cut out all the response times
that could have been three

2041
02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:51,180
seconds. 30 seconds. Who knows?
The voice prompts were not

2042
02:04:51,180 --> 02:04:54,720
voiced. They had pre entered
those with text. The whole thing

2043
02:04:54,720 --> 02:05:02,490
was phony. Phony from Google.
That's okay. because we have Al

2044
02:05:02,490 --> 02:05:10,050
Gore to bring the humor back
into AI. And he did it does, he

2045
02:05:10,050 --> 02:05:14,940
had a great interview, half an
hour at COP 28. No cop is

2046
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:16,860
complete without Al Gore

2047
02:05:17,460 --> 02:05:21,870
Unknown: to one based on
broadcasting and then moving on

2048
02:05:22,050 --> 02:05:28,440
to the internet and to social
media has disrupted the balances

2049
02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:33,600
that used to exist, that made
representative democracy work

2050
02:05:33,630 --> 02:05:39,540
much better. Because a free self
governing people rely on a

2051
02:05:39,540 --> 02:05:45,240
shared base of knowledge that
serves as a basis for reasoning

2052
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:52,050
together collectively. But if
you have social media that is

2053
02:05:52,050 --> 02:05:58,740
dominated by algorithms that
pull people down these rabbit

2054
02:05:58,740 --> 02:06:02,010
holes that are a bit like
pitcher plants, these

2055
02:06:02,010 --> 02:06:06,690
algorithms, they are the digital
equivalent of AR fifteens. They

2056
02:06:06,690 --> 02:06:09,450
ought to be banned, they really
ought to be banned. It's an

2057
02:06:09,450 --> 02:06:14,430
abuse of the public forum. But
when these when people are

2058
02:06:14,430 --> 02:06:17,880
pulled down these rabbit holes,
you know what's at the bottom of

2059
02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:22,920
the rabbit hole. That's where
the echo chamber is. And if you

2060
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:27,180
spend too much time in the echo
chamber, what's weaponized is

2061
02:06:27,180 --> 02:06:29,730
another form of AI, not
artificial intelligence,

2062
02:06:29,730 --> 02:06:34,020
artificial insanity. I'm
serious. I'm serious.

2063
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:36,840
Adam Curry: I'm at the bottom,
I'll help me.

2064
02:06:39,060 --> 02:06:40,860
John C Dvorak: Artificial
insanity,

2065
02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:43,350
Adam Curry: which is dumb,
because artificial insanity

2066
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:45,960
would mean that people aren't
really insane. It's artificial.

2067
02:06:47,700 --> 02:06:53,580
But that's just an outdoor man.
And yeah, he comes out. He comes

2068
02:06:53,580 --> 02:06:56,340
out on stage. He puts his hand
together praying like Thank you.

2069
02:06:56,340 --> 02:06:58,230
Thank you. I'm so thank you know

2070
02:06:58,230 --> 02:07:00,390
John C Dvorak: mosty Namaste.

2071
02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:02,310
Adam Curry: Yeah, Namaste style.

2072
02:07:02,310 --> 02:07:05,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Very good
to the Buddha.

2073
02:07:06,030 --> 02:07:09,570
Adam Curry: I gotta reiterate
right now. I see even comic

2074
02:07:09,570 --> 02:07:12,390
strip blogger loved the man.
I've known him longer than my

2075
02:07:12,390 --> 02:07:19,080
wife. And he and he posts from
from what is it? Barf. grok.

2076
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:26,010
This is Elon Musk's fantastic AI
grok. It's it's word salad. It's

2077
02:07:26,010 --> 02:07:30,960
crap. None of this is good. It's
entirely recognizable

2078
02:07:30,990 --> 02:07:32,040
immediately.

2079
02:07:32,490 --> 02:07:34,650
John C Dvorak: It's just they
gotta fix that

2080
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:37,380
Adam Curry: they can't because
it's no good. These things can't

2081
02:07:37,380 --> 02:07:41,880
even do math. They really can't
if you ask them to do some some

2082
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:45,780
basic math. It's hard for AI.
It's people argue with me all

2083
02:07:45,780 --> 02:07:50,010
day long. But AI is not going to
kill us. This is list

2084
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:52,290
John C Dvorak: all over and kill
us with laughter

2085
02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:57,030
Adam Curry: It's list all over
again. The AI winter is coming.

2086
02:07:57,180 --> 02:08:02,940
This Yeah. That was the largest
used Yeah, right. The list guys

2087
02:08:02,940 --> 02:08:05,970
are all over this like, hey, we
did this with list midweek at

2088
02:08:05,970 --> 02:08:10,650
least create this large list
model. That's what it is. It's

2089
02:08:10,650 --> 02:08:15,120
not impressive. It's going to
fail. And the only people

2090
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:19,710
winning are is Nvidia because
everyone wants compute cycles.

2091
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,320
And I think I would say that
they're they're good for a

2092
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,200
short. I mean, that's just me. I
don't I'm not the DH on plug

2093
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:30,090
guy. I'm just saying that. Some
things. This Gemini demo was the

2094
02:08:30,090 --> 02:08:33,690
second fail for Google. The
first one was barf. And he got

2095
02:08:33,690 --> 02:08:37,410
all the answers wrong. And then
this Gemini demo was faked.

2096
02:08:37,950 --> 02:08:39,270
Where's the business?

2097
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:42,810
John C Dvorak: where's the
where's the data? You did? Now?

2098
02:08:42,810 --> 02:08:45,930
You You nailed it. Where does
the business where's the

2099
02:08:45,930 --> 02:08:49,110
business? The business is meet
compute side like that old

2100
02:08:49,110 --> 02:08:50,550
commercial? Yeah, where's the
business?

2101
02:08:50,580 --> 02:08:52,320
Adam Curry: where's the where's
the beef? Where's the business?

2102
02:08:52,350 --> 02:08:55,080
John C Dvorak: I mean, that the
way I see it, I still liked the

2103
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:59,940
AI stuff because I love the
Hillary AI woman I liked the

2104
02:08:59,940 --> 02:09:04,170
Biden AI. Like all the AIS that
are being used for great for

2105
02:09:04,170 --> 02:09:07,560
humor by goofballs that are
online creating this stuff to

2106
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:11,220
not make it there's no business
in that either. And it's like

2107
02:09:11,220 --> 02:09:13,890
the guys who do memes there's no
business model. You can't do

2108
02:09:13,890 --> 02:09:18,360
memes for a living though. And
but that's where it's going it's

2109
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:20,790
where it's headed and some of
its pretty getting better.

2110
02:09:21,780 --> 02:09:24,390
Adam Curry: With that stuff is
fantastic. And that's as you saw

2111
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:27,840
is the is the bottom of the
totem pole. I mean that will be

2112
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:32,640
used for now it will be used in
reverse as we discussed. I

2113
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:37,020
didn't say that said politician
a. That must have been AI that's

2114
02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:38,670
not true. When there's

2115
02:09:38,670 --> 02:09:40,920
John C Dvorak: a bias there's a
product for sale. I think it's

2116
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:47,010
actually legit. It's a product
debt. It is a snap on finger.

2117
02:09:47,070 --> 02:09:51,300
Yes. The extra finger, you put
you put this finger on it so

2118
02:09:51,300 --> 02:09:54,300
anyone takes a picture of you
and says that it's a picture of

2119
02:09:54,300 --> 02:09:57,360
you doing something rather you
point out that you have six

2120
02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:01,770
fingers on one hand so it must
be a I That's great. I just

2121
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:03,450
thought it was a great idea.

2122
02:10:04,500 --> 02:10:06,870
Adam Curry: I mean, seriously
that. I just don't see that.

2123
02:10:07,380 --> 02:10:12,480
Now. Okay. So pretty soon, just
like everybody had homogenized

2124
02:10:12,510 --> 02:10:16,950
flower points will have
homogenized Word docs, it all be

2125
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:21,510
the same at all be the, in the
ever expanding world of filling

2126
02:10:21,510 --> 02:10:27,240
your business name. That's what
it does. It creates predictable

2127
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:29,130
crap. It's not impressive.

2128
02:10:29,970 --> 02:10:33,090
John C Dvorak: No, I agree. It
means not impressive. No, thank

2129
02:10:33,090 --> 02:10:34,350
you. So it is funny.

2130
02:10:35,370 --> 02:10:38,610
Adam Curry: Well, it'll be great
for the show. But when when then

2131
02:10:38,610 --> 02:10:40,470
John C Dvorak: is great for the
show because you can bellyache

2132
02:10:40,470 --> 02:10:45,210
constantly, which you do. Yes, I
do. Which is my job. But you do

2133
02:10:45,210 --> 02:10:51,480
a better job of it with AI with
AI with AI and it's material.

2134
02:10:51,990 --> 02:10:54,510
It's dynamite. As you mentioned,
I should have clipped up the

2135
02:10:54,660 --> 02:10:57,750
Hillary thing. Yes. Where she
blames everything on global

2136
02:10:57,750 --> 02:11:00,180
warming, which is very funny
because like

2137
02:11:00,180 --> 02:11:02,280
Adam Curry: the Greta thing that
was great. You know, the Greta

2138
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:05,430
with the vegan hand grenades. I
mean, it's yeah, it's great.

2139
02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:08,040
It's just it's not a business
model. Comedy is hard. It's hard

2140
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:09,210
to make money at comedy.

2141
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:13,080
John C Dvorak: Especially when
you're just giving it away. Yes.

2142
02:11:13,710 --> 02:11:14,400
So

2143
02:11:14,430 --> 02:11:18,240
Adam Curry: no, it's I'm sorry.
And I love all the podcasts

2144
02:11:18,330 --> 02:11:21,660
companies. Oh, we've got AI for
this. Yeah, we'll do your show

2145
02:11:21,660 --> 02:11:29,850
notes. Ai everyone wants to make
it so easy. Like oh, you don't

2146
02:11:29,850 --> 02:11:33,060
have you hardly have to show up
and your podcast will be created

2147
02:11:33,150 --> 02:11:36,480
is great. No, no, it's not.

2148
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:40,350
John C Dvorak: So we were I
wanted to talk about TV and

2149
02:11:40,350 --> 02:11:41,490
movies for a minute.

2150
02:11:41,550 --> 02:11:45,480
Adam Curry: Okay, we do have to
take a break. So we're, we got

2151
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:47,340
John C Dvorak: to heart out
that's come out of the break.

2152
02:11:47,340 --> 02:11:49,980
And I want to bitch about a
couple of things out there.

2153
02:11:50,010 --> 02:11:51,600
Adam Curry: Let's go into the
break with pitching that's

2154
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:54,150
always fun. Come on, do it.
Well, let's start

2155
02:11:54,150 --> 02:11:56,910
John C Dvorak: with this that
there's a movie The Dave hell

2156
02:11:56,910 --> 02:12:00,180
raising the Flower Hill or
whatever it is, is a it's a

2157
02:12:00,180 --> 02:12:04,290
score Ceci movie that was
produced by Apple. Oh, god, it's

2158
02:12:04,590 --> 02:12:08,610
three and a half hours long. I
have a screen here. I tried to

2159
02:12:08,610 --> 02:12:12,360
why it's unwatchable is too
long. It's about some murders

2160
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:17,160
that took place in the south
during the of Indians. And I'm

2161
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:21,690
going to play a clip from it.
This is the whole movie by the

2162
02:12:21,690 --> 02:12:25,770
way. Oh, it's as if it's like
Southern accents killers

2163
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:28,740
Adam Curry: of the flower moon.
Yeah, killers of the flower

2164
02:12:28,740 --> 02:12:29,010
moon.

2165
02:12:29,550 --> 02:12:34,560
John C Dvorak: It's it's a money
is obviously Scorsese got to

2166
02:12:34,590 --> 02:12:38,670
show up who knows how much money
to do this film. Took it to

2167
02:12:38,670 --> 02:12:41,580
three and a half hours to make
sure nobody actually got to want

2168
02:12:41,670 --> 02:12:46,710
to see it. Because they you'd be
embarrassed. And the whole movie

2169
02:12:46,710 --> 02:12:50,100
is like DiCaprio and a bunch of
other guys including De Niro.

2170
02:12:50,190 --> 02:12:51,540
You know, the usual suspects

2171
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:54,450
Adam Curry: is one of those and
man we're all on the Scorsese

2172
02:12:54,450 --> 02:12:56,490
movies. Gonna be like The
Godfather.

2173
02:12:56,850 --> 02:12:59,070
John C Dvorak: We're gonna have
nothing but fun. They all have

2174
02:12:59,610 --> 02:13:05,040
the worst Southern accents a
match mine is bad. No, DiCaprio

2175
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:09,000
is is worse. And he's doing a
Texas accent and even though

2176
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:13,230
he's from Saudi it's just
terrible. And the whole movie I

2177
02:13:13,230 --> 02:13:15,960
have a clip from the movie I'm
telling you the whole three and

2178
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:18,030
a half hours is basically this

2179
02:13:19,590 --> 02:13:23,610
Unknown: yes me mess for you for
Kingham don't see the foundation

2180
02:13:23,610 --> 02:13:27,600
curly until we take care of one
read all right it's time now guy

2181
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:32,880
came to write man my wife said
my wife sick to my wife said to

2182
02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:35,460
go Why don't you Why are you
always trying to get somebody

2183
02:13:35,460 --> 02:13:38,790
like me? Do you work for you
walk because I don't know. I

2184
02:13:38,790 --> 02:13:43,920
don't really see Kirby looks
locking right I mean I wouldn't

2185
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:48,330
do it but I can't do it because
I don't know. I'm sorry. Hi,

2186
02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:51,450
I'll do it. But I can't do it
right now. I can't get to a

2187
02:13:51,450 --> 02:13:53,430
right now just so you know that
something needs to be done

2188
02:13:53,430 --> 02:13:56,460
straight away. Not to wait on
for Hale has to be done straight

2189
02:13:56,460 --> 02:14:00,630
away right now. Me and mighty
pushing earnest. I gotta get

2190
02:14:00,630 --> 02:14:04,620
back. Let me tell you, John,
John. This is it. One more

2191
02:14:04,620 --> 02:14:07,320
change. I will talk to King
Hale. I'm gonna tell him you're

2192
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:12,030
gonna do right now. I don't want
to lose this job John. Dang it.

2193
02:14:13,050 --> 02:14:15,060
Adam Curry: Oh man, that's bad.

2194
02:14:16,380 --> 02:14:19,050
John C Dvorak: I mean a whole
movie is basically that

2195
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:22,980
Adam Curry: I live in the South.
They don't nobody

2196
02:14:22,980 --> 02:14:26,430
John C Dvorak: talks like that.
I know. man put his like clip

2197
02:14:26,430 --> 02:14:26,940
custodian

2198
02:14:26,940 --> 02:14:29,280
Adam Curry: says he watched it
took him two days to watch it.

2199
02:14:30,810 --> 02:14:32,730
John C Dvorak: Oh, he couldn't
watch it in one setting now I

2200
02:14:32,730 --> 02:14:36,180
don't think anybody can. But why
get even why even watch it?

2201
02:14:37,200 --> 02:14:39,780
Adam Curry: Well, as his kid is
going through chemo, this was

2202
02:14:39,780 --> 02:14:46,620
probably less fun. Watching this
movie. Oh my god. We're

2203
02:14:46,620 --> 02:14:48,390
John C Dvorak: talking about
some of the other crap that's on

2204
02:14:48,390 --> 02:14:54,600
television. The Kelsey Grammer
reboot. Yes, unwatchable. I

2205
02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:57,240
anything is on network TV. If I
watched something,

2206
02:14:57,270 --> 02:15:01,620
Adam Curry: I watched something
that I liked. Okay. ready for

2207
02:15:01,620 --> 02:15:05,790
it. We watched it last night. It
had a very different type of

2208
02:15:05,790 --> 02:15:11,220
plot. It had good cameos I would
say out and not just can't but

2209
02:15:11,250 --> 02:15:18,630
big, good actors, well known
actors. He kept the producer the

2210
02:15:18,630 --> 02:15:23,130
guy who produced it and stars in
it kept true to his, his legacy.

2211
02:15:24,090 --> 02:15:28,380
And it's a Christmas movie,
Candy Cane Lane, by Eddie

2212
02:15:28,380 --> 02:15:34,800
Murphy. very watchable, very
watchable. Very fun.

2213
02:15:36,030 --> 02:15:38,190
John C Dvorak: Bill Murphy is no
slouch when it comes to

2214
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:41,550
producing a movie or being in a
movie that's watchable. Yeah.

2215
02:15:41,970 --> 02:15:42,120
And

2216
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:45,480
Adam Curry: it was a different
take on a on a Christmas movie.

2217
02:15:46,710 --> 02:15:51,060
It was a lot of black actors,
but it wasn't like look, we're

2218
02:15:51,060 --> 02:15:54,570
all black actors. I mean, it was
just it was good. It was a good

2219
02:15:54,570 --> 02:15:55,050
movie.

2220
02:15:55,950 --> 02:15:58,620
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
probably a contrast to Sean

2221
02:15:58,620 --> 02:16:00,420
Hannity's producing movie.

2222
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:01,170
Adam Curry: Oh no.

2223
02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:06,210
John C Dvorak: Which is only on
rumble and he's so proud of it.

2224
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:10,110
And the title alone tells you
where this movie is headed. It's

2225
02:16:10,110 --> 02:16:12,570
called jingle smells now

2226
02:16:12,570 --> 02:16:16,890
Adam Curry: just stop stop I'm
kidding. Yes, that can't be

2227
02:16:16,890 --> 02:16:23,670
true. Jingle smells Do you have
a clip? No, I

2228
02:16:23,670 --> 02:16:25,830
John C Dvorak: don't have a clip
I didn't think God bringing a

2229
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:29,640
clip of that but thank you so so
proud of this is a good movie

2230
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:32,610
that all the family is a good
Christian values movie

2231
02:16:33,060 --> 02:16:34,680
Adam Curry: brother and it's on
rumble

2232
02:16:35,850 --> 02:16:38,490
John C Dvorak: rumble or bitch
shoot one of the two is that guy

2233
02:16:38,490 --> 02:16:41,010
get these mixed up these
platforms and God

2234
02:16:41,430 --> 02:16:44,340
Adam Curry: well there you go
everybody that's your holiday

2235
02:16:44,340 --> 02:16:47,460
watching tips from your no
agenda show. And with that I'd

2236
02:16:47,460 --> 02:16:49,320
like to thank you for your
currency in the morning to you

2237
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:53,100
the man who put the commies who
want hate our capitalism you put

2238
02:16:53,100 --> 02:16:55,530
the season that's a lot of my
friend on the other end one one

2239
02:16:55,530 --> 02:16:56,970
only missed our jobs

2240
02:17:00,450 --> 02:17:02,670
John C Dvorak: in the morning
the industry and McCurry look in

2241
02:17:02,670 --> 02:17:05,550
the morning, boots on the ground
feet in the air subs in the

2242
02:17:05,550 --> 02:17:07,290
water and all the names and all

2243
02:17:07,290 --> 02:17:09,660
Adam Curry: their trolls the
trolls are good. I'm really

2244
02:17:09,660 --> 02:17:17,850
digging the joke I you know,
I've really I've I've really

2245
02:17:17,850 --> 02:17:21,060
changed my stance a lot. I love
the trolls and the troll room

2246
02:17:21,060 --> 02:17:25,050
I'm feeling very good. I like it
when they say horrible things to

2247
02:17:25,050 --> 02:17:29,970
me. Because I forgive them
immediately obviously, it's it's

2248
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:33,930
it's good and it just scrolls
off and then the trolls do other

2249
02:17:33,930 --> 02:17:35,970
things and they focus our
attention on someone else we

2250
02:17:35,970 --> 02:17:38,850
have 2031 Trolls today

2251
02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:44,400
John C Dvorak: that's 400 lower
this but seems to be our new

2252
02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:45,960
Sunday number it's our new low

2253
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:50,880
Adam Curry: this is our new low
Exactly. But what it but it's

2254
02:17:50,910 --> 02:17:54,720
it's you know we are a bit two
minutes and 18 Two hours and 18

2255
02:17:54,720 --> 02:17:57,930
minutes into the show. I wanted
to break earlier but we are on

2256
02:17:57,930 --> 02:18:01,350
such a roll. Because the this
will be a very short donation

2257
02:18:01,350 --> 02:18:06,270
segment are getting shorter as
the days get longer. The longer

2258
02:18:06,300 --> 02:18:09,240
the donation segments get
shorter to amazing how that

2259
02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:15,450
works. Now you can join those
trolls in the troll room. That's

2260
02:18:15,450 --> 02:18:20,610
it troll room.io And remember to
tune in early. At least two

2261
02:18:20,610 --> 02:18:25,320
hours on Thursdays for Darren
O'Neal's rock and roll pre show.

2262
02:18:25,470 --> 02:18:28,470
And on Sunday we also have the
Bluegrass show which comes on

2263
02:18:28,650 --> 02:18:33,240
four hours earlier. Which is I
mean, it's it's really good if

2264
02:18:33,240 --> 02:18:38,280
you want to listen live and now
Fountain has up their game. This

2265
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:40,860
is all the new podcast apps you
want to try out by the way.

2266
02:18:41,400 --> 02:18:45,090
Fountain has come up with a new
version which is banger. They do

2267
02:18:45,090 --> 02:18:47,970
the live stuff to give you
alerts a podcast Guru is

2268
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:51,600
upgraded there's pod verse is
doing fantastic curio caster

2269
02:18:52,170 --> 02:18:55,320
cast thematic all of this. This
is the format of the future.

2270
02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:59,160
We've been doing it for 16
years. But it's listening live.

2271
02:18:59,250 --> 02:19:02,790
You've got the troll room right
there. And if you're if you're

2272
02:19:02,790 --> 02:19:06,750
one of the 4% of podcast
listeners, who is using Google

2273
02:19:06,750 --> 02:19:12,000
podcasts, I know sounds crazy.
Export your subscriptions to a

2274
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:16,650
modern podcast app today.
Because that can that can help a

2275
02:19:16,680 --> 02:19:21,510
an independent podcast app at
modern podcast. apps.com. Yeah,

2276
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:22,050
yeah,

2277
02:19:22,079 --> 02:19:23,999
John C Dvorak: it's true. And
people should go to modern

2278
02:19:23,999 --> 02:19:27,269
podcast apps.com Every so often.
That's

2279
02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:30,450
Adam Curry: right, just check up
and see what's going on. Thank

2280
02:19:30,450 --> 02:19:33,660
you, John. And you should also
go to too many eggs.com Because

2281
02:19:33,720 --> 02:19:34,740
it's a great combo.

2282
02:19:34,740 --> 02:19:36,900
John C Dvorak: You never know if
you need a big fat giant

2283
02:19:36,900 --> 02:19:40,650
cookbook, too many eggs. It's
these are all good tip little

2284
02:19:40,650 --> 02:19:43,290
ball rolling on the no agenda
show. That's what you're

2285
02:19:43,290 --> 02:19:48,270
supposed to do. If you're doing
a podcast is log roll, which Joe

2286
02:19:48,270 --> 02:19:49,560
Rogan doesn't do.

2287
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:51,630
Adam Curry: It's interesting.
You bring that up because these

2288
02:19:51,630 --> 02:19:55,200
apps have a new feature which is
called the pod roll. I didn't

2289
02:19:55,200 --> 02:20:00,450
make the name up. And now that
we have in our pod enroll for

2290
02:20:00,450 --> 02:20:06,090
the show which shows up in the
apps. We have DHA unplugged. And

2291
02:20:06,120 --> 02:20:08,820
I think I put Korean zookeeper
in there. If you have another

2292
02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:11,880
one, you put that one in there,
let me know. And I'll add it.

2293
02:20:13,020 --> 02:20:15,780
It's exactly that same thing.
It's log rolling only for

2294
02:20:15,780 --> 02:20:19,650
podcasts, which is a great
discovery mechanism. You can

2295
02:20:19,650 --> 02:20:24,690
also follow us on what is that
thing called? No agenda?

2296
02:20:24,690 --> 02:20:30,300
social.com which I no longer pay
for it? No, it's not. It's it's

2297
02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:31,200
very disappointing.

2298
02:20:31,230 --> 02:20:35,220
John C Dvorak: I am now doing
the three the three main posts

2299
02:20:35,220 --> 02:20:36,240
every so often.

2300
02:20:36,780 --> 02:20:37,620
Adam Curry: Is that what you're
doing

2301
02:20:37,710 --> 02:20:39,360
John C Dvorak: it dedicated to
you?

2302
02:20:39,390 --> 02:20:42,030
Adam Curry: Thank you. So you
just post three main things is

2303
02:20:42,030 --> 02:20:47,370
that once a day memes movie, no
meme memes to you as a mean

2304
02:20:47,370 --> 02:20:47,880
thing, but

2305
02:20:47,880 --> 02:20:51,000
John C Dvorak: it means memes.
Yes. Yeah. Boys three.

2306
02:20:51,060 --> 02:20:53,250
Adam Curry: Honestly, I've been
looking at the no agenda.

2307
02:20:53,250 --> 02:20:56,220
Telegram channels. Now. I mean,
that's better. As to me. It's

2308
02:20:56,220 --> 02:20:58,290
better. It's what happens is

2309
02:20:58,290 --> 02:21:00,690
John C Dvorak: you I don't even
know you had a channel. Oh, I

2310
02:21:00,690 --> 02:21:03,210
Adam Curry: didn't create it.
This is Oh, by the

2311
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:05,490
John C Dvorak: way, you gotta
send me an invite.

2312
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:08,010
Adam Curry: Oh, no, you can just
join. There must be 50. No

2313
02:21:08,010 --> 02:21:11,550
agenda channels and groups on
telegram. And I hate telegram.

2314
02:21:11,910 --> 02:21:16,200
But it's the signal to noise
ratio. I can't post I can't do a

2315
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:21,780
reply. or anything. Everyone's
like, it's negative. It's all

2316
02:21:21,780 --> 02:21:25,260
negative. No one's nice to me.
And you know, if you're not

2317
02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:26,550
nice, then then I'm

2318
02:21:26,580 --> 02:21:30,450
John C Dvorak: just not going to
be nice to my wife told me Yeah,

2319
02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:30,600
but

2320
02:21:30,600 --> 02:21:33,900
Adam Curry: they're not. And you
know, I get all triggered. And

2321
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:36,960
then there's all these memes.
And there's a lot of you know,

2322
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:40,560
polarizing things. We're the
most blocked and hated group on

2323
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:41,370
the fediverse.

2324
02:21:41,790 --> 02:21:45,450
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And it
shows. Yeah, we are the block

2325
02:21:45,450 --> 02:21:49,140
group they hated. The fediverse
does not like is the whole fair

2326
02:21:49,140 --> 02:21:50,520
versus a joke.

2327
02:21:50,970 --> 02:21:56,190
Adam Curry: Well, there's that.
But it's, it's something about

2328
02:21:56,820 --> 02:22:00,300
hate the game, not the players.
It's something about social

2329
02:22:00,300 --> 02:22:04,470
media. That just it's it's
broken. It's evil. It's the

2330
02:22:04,470 --> 02:22:05,340
devil. I think

2331
02:22:05,340 --> 02:22:06,990
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something. And I brought up

2332
02:22:06,990 --> 02:22:10,650
the Marshall McLuhan concepts.
And I think you nailed it. It's

2333
02:22:10,650 --> 02:22:12,600
the medium is the message. Yes.

2334
02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:15,630
Adam Curry: And I'm, I'm happy
to I mean, I love our community.

2335
02:22:15,660 --> 02:22:21,450
I love no agenda. In fact, we
have, we did this meet up the

2336
02:22:21,450 --> 02:22:26,280
super spreader, seething,
infected human resources, meet

2337
02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:26,550
up

2338
02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:29,430
John C Dvorak: Indiana of the
affected Indiana meetup.

2339
02:22:30,510 --> 02:22:33,870
Adam Curry: And I asked, this
will be our end of show because

2340
02:22:33,870 --> 02:22:38,250
we didn't really get any new
mixes. So I asked, you know,

2341
02:22:38,760 --> 02:22:40,590
instead of just saying, because,
you know, there's a lot of

2342
02:22:40,590 --> 02:22:44,940
people there. And you do just
the two minutes of people thank,

2343
02:22:44,970 --> 02:22:46,950
you know, like, Hey, it's me.
It's me. It's

2344
02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:49,800
John C Dvorak: me. It's saying
lotta handshaking letter.

2345
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:51,930
Adam Curry: I'm talking, talking
about them out of control,

2346
02:22:51,960 --> 02:22:53,460
talking about the meetup report.

2347
02:22:53,940 --> 02:22:54,990
John C Dvorak: That's what I
meant, right? So

2348
02:22:54,990 --> 02:22:57,300
Adam Curry: instead of that, I
said, Why don't you do a meter

2349
02:22:57,300 --> 02:23:02,100
report and tell us what you're
thankful for. And that shows the

2350
02:23:02,100 --> 02:23:05,100
real no agenda community. And
I'm going to play that as our

2351
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:09,780
end of show that's we did is I
know, I knew you'd love it. It's

2352
02:23:09,780 --> 02:23:12,750
about sad. It'd be right after
the good news, too, which is,

2353
02:23:12,750 --> 02:23:16,260
man, there's so much good stuff
coming. If you leave now you are

2354
02:23:16,260 --> 02:23:17,310
bad and stupid.

2355
02:23:18,630 --> 02:23:20,430
John C Dvorak: But that's I
know, see that you condemning

2356
02:23:20,430 --> 02:23:21,720
them already know. But

2357
02:23:21,720 --> 02:23:24,630
Adam Curry: the trolls don't
leave. Because the troll room is

2358
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:27,990
the place where you can do this
stuff. I love it troll me all

2359
02:23:27,990 --> 02:23:30,870
you want on the troll room is
perfect for that. It's

2360
02:23:30,870 --> 02:23:34,050
ephemeral, it goes away. And you
can do that in a modern podcast

2361
02:23:34,050 --> 02:23:38,160
app too. So value for value is
what we've been running on. I

2362
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:40,860
think by now you realize that if
you got this far, and you're a

2363
02:23:40,860 --> 02:23:43,620
first time listener, maybe
second time, you're like, how do

2364
02:23:43,620 --> 02:23:46,500
these guys do all this stuff
without getting the platform?

2365
02:23:46,500 --> 02:23:51,960
Well, we don't. We don't have a
platform, first of all, but

2366
02:23:51,960 --> 02:23:54,330
we're gonna say we

2367
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:57,000
John C Dvorak: create our own
platform. That's what everyone

2368
02:23:57,000 --> 02:24:01,440
should do is not an impossible.
Yes. And we instead of relying

2369
02:24:01,440 --> 02:24:06,690
on a third party, we spend the
money to create our own

2370
02:24:06,690 --> 02:24:10,080
platform, so nobody can kick us
off of it. Because we we own it.

2371
02:24:10,110 --> 02:24:13,500
Adam Curry: Yes. And we do this
with, with our producers who

2372
02:24:13,500 --> 02:24:18,690
help us in, in many ways, a lot
of the technology stuff that has

2373
02:24:18,690 --> 02:24:21,720
been done, we haven't done,
we've never built a website for

2374
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:26,490
ourselves that I can remember or
maybe one of the first ones all

2375
02:24:26,490 --> 02:24:28,650
of that has been done by
producers as part of our time,

2376
02:24:28,650 --> 02:24:30,930
talent and treasure and the the
way it worked with value for

2377
02:24:30,930 --> 02:24:33,840
value, which is a concept which
is catchy catching on in all

2378
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:37,740
kinds of areas. Music now,
people are seeing it as truly

2379
02:24:37,740 --> 02:24:41,700
the, the way out. Because
Silicon Valley's model is give

2380
02:24:41,700 --> 02:24:45,030
us all your content and we'll
give you nothing. That's their

2381
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:48,150
basic, that's what Spotify does.
That's what they've done to

2382
02:24:48,150 --> 02:24:52,050
musicians. That's what they do.
That's what social media is, is

2383
02:24:52,050 --> 02:24:54,480
Mark Zuckerberg, like hey, give
me all your Instagram posts.

2384
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:56,640
Give me real tick tock, give it
to me. Give it to me, give him

2385
02:24:57,090 --> 02:24:59,760
give it to me, and you get
nothing. So you're working your

2386
02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:02,880
slave If you're working for
them, so instead we just say,

2387
02:25:02,880 --> 02:25:05,610
Hey, if you got any value out of
the show, if you learned

2388
02:25:05,610 --> 02:25:08,820
anything if you if you laughed,
even if you cried if there was

2389
02:25:08,820 --> 02:25:11,730
something you didn't know of,
you know what, even if you got

2390
02:25:11,730 --> 02:25:15,120
mad at us, that's valuable. And
eventually you'll say, I need

2391
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:15,990
more of that.

2392
02:25:17,010 --> 02:25:20,460
John C Dvorak: If I didn't do
that you're a listener with Yes.

2393
02:25:20,460 --> 02:25:21,690
Couple of shows. Yeah. And

2394
02:25:21,690 --> 02:25:25,590
Adam Curry: what I do is I force
myself to listen to the, to the

2395
02:25:25,890 --> 02:25:29,850
pivot ads, I do that to, you
know, to help them. I wish I

2396
02:25:29,850 --> 02:25:32,220
could just give them money, I'd
gladly give them money with a

2397
02:25:32,220 --> 02:25:36,780
message. I hate you. Here's 50
bucks, I'd give him 500. From

2398
02:25:36,780 --> 02:25:40,050
time to time, if I had the
money. Bet I hate you. Here's

2399
02:25:40,050 --> 02:25:46,680
here's some value back. Now, one
way, speaking of websites. Let's

2400
02:25:46,680 --> 02:25:51,150
see, Sir Paul couture has been
running for for many years, and

2401
02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:55,980
I just opened it. Yeah. Is it
running? Is it up? Nope. He's

2402
02:25:55,980 --> 02:26:01,620
been running no agenda, art
generator.com, which has been a

2403
02:26:01,650 --> 02:26:05,640
just a fabulous resource with
almost 30,000 pieces of art.

2404
02:26:06,180 --> 02:26:09,570
Since since he started that, and
we had something before then and

2405
02:26:10,410 --> 02:26:13,320
any there was some horrible
incident. He's

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02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:15,810
John C Dvorak: actually changed
this a couple of times. Yes, he

2407
02:26:15,810 --> 02:26:20,820
has changed infrastructure. We
went to headless Drupal and I

2408
02:26:20,820 --> 02:26:23,490
went to just headless Ruby on
Rails,

2409
02:26:23,820 --> 02:26:28,740
Adam Curry: whatever. So he is
taking advantage of the

2410
02:26:28,770 --> 02:26:32,850
explosion in the data center to
bring everything back up, we

2411
02:26:32,850 --> 02:26:37,590
hope with the with a new system,
which he was planning anyway.

2412
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:41,040
Whatever we love you, Sir Paul,
good tour. If you can get it

2413
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:44,580
back up. You can if not, we have
a backup, we can always import

2414
02:26:44,580 --> 02:26:47,310
that into a new system. We'll
work it out. That's that's part

2415
02:26:47,310 --> 02:26:50,160
of the value for value system as
well. So since we didn't

2416
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:52,470
contract someone for 1000s of
dollars

2417
02:26:52,470 --> 02:26:55,260
John C Dvorak: a month to
complain about time we know he's

2418
02:26:55,260 --> 02:26:58,740
a coder. Its content is
continous the way it is yeah,

2419
02:26:58,740 --> 02:26:59,430
it's content

2420
02:26:59,430 --> 02:27:02,460
Adam Curry: content. But we
don't have to get all mad

2421
02:27:02,460 --> 02:27:04,860
because we're paying you for
this. What are you doing? This

2422
02:27:04,860 --> 02:27:07,500
is horrible. Your service is no
good. I knew we should have gone

2423
02:27:07,500 --> 02:27:14,940
was as your the WS No, no,
there's none of that. We just

2424
02:27:14,940 --> 02:27:17,610
like okay, all right, man. We
know you're working on whatever.

2425
02:27:17,640 --> 02:27:18,300
Yeah, we love.

2426
02:27:19,890 --> 02:27:23,820
John C Dvorak: Whatever, man. So
yeah, I said part

2427
02:27:23,820 --> 02:27:27,810
Adam Curry: of that Kumar,
wonderful artists. And they and

2428
02:27:27,810 --> 02:27:30,870
so they've jerry rigged some
system now no agenda. social.com

2429
02:27:30,870 --> 02:27:33,930
has been very handy for this.
They've been posting their

2430
02:27:33,930 --> 02:27:37,530
artwork. They're tagging Sir
Paul couture. And so we have

2431
02:27:37,530 --> 02:27:39,540
been able to at least get some
submissions.

2432
02:27:40,890 --> 02:27:43,980
John C Dvorak: It's probably
more work now than ever. Oh, it

2433
02:27:43,980 --> 02:27:48,300
Adam Curry: tons of work, tons
of work. And so we Yeah, and we

2434
02:27:48,300 --> 02:27:52,680
always select something from
from the offering that we have

2435
02:27:52,680 --> 02:27:55,050
there from the value that is
returned to us by ours. And we

2436
02:27:55,050 --> 02:27:59,040
love all the value. We can only
choose one of course, and we

2437
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:01,560
will review it will give you
value right back reviewing your

2438
02:28:01,560 --> 02:28:04,830
work if we thought it will tell
you why we didn't choose it. And

2439
02:28:04,830 --> 02:28:10,380
we want to thank Darren O'Neill,
who likes crappy music as you

2440
02:28:10,380 --> 02:28:16,470
can by stand by he knows Stan
nailed it. He could do art every

2441
02:28:16,470 --> 02:28:21,450
show. He nailed it with the no
agenda threat level indicator.

2442
02:28:21,930 --> 02:28:24,690
Yeah, if you haven't, I mean
this. This was just great when

2443
02:28:24,690 --> 02:28:29,790
the and the levels were low,
raised high. Trump and swift.

2444
02:28:30,780 --> 02:28:34,110
For Taylor Swift nailed it. So
we're at Taylor Swift threat

2445
02:28:34,110 --> 02:28:36,780
level. It was great. Darren,
thank you. It was just

2446
02:28:36,780 --> 02:28:41,970
fantastic. There were a couple
others that we discussed. There.

2447
02:28:41,970 --> 02:28:44,550
John C Dvorak: A lot of them
were good Dame Kenny Ben's MC

2448
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:47,880
partner was I liked that piece a
lot. You liked the blinking

2449
02:28:47,880 --> 02:28:52,020
lights? Yes. Well, they'd like
why didn't Altair computer?

2450
02:28:52,200 --> 02:28:52,620
Yeah. Why

2451
02:28:52,620 --> 02:28:55,020
Adam Curry: didn't we choose
Dame Kenny Ben's that was the

2452
02:28:55,410 --> 02:28:58,830
big mac works with ozempic. Why
did we not choose that? Just

2453
02:28:58,830 --> 02:29:00,150
because Sharon was better? Is

2454
02:29:00,150 --> 02:29:02,850
John C Dvorak: it because we
liked Darren is better period?

2455
02:29:02,850 --> 02:29:07,380
Yeah. And I think it was because
of that swift joke. There

2456
02:29:07,380 --> 02:29:11,460
Adam Curry: was the network
spent a lot of time on on the

2457
02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:17,700
crocs discussion. Which was
interesting. Yeah, you know why

2458
02:29:17,700 --> 02:29:20,580
that was interesting. Let me let
me just go back and remind

2459
02:29:20,580 --> 02:29:24,090
everybody of what where that
came from. Go back to Episode

2460
02:29:24,090 --> 02:29:32,520
1614. That's very inexpensive. I
wouldn't know you don't get you

2461
02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:33,600
wear crocs.

2462
02:29:34,050 --> 02:29:35,820
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
crocs at all things.

2463
02:29:35,850 --> 02:29:37,950
Adam Curry: You wear Speedos
that look like crocs.

2464
02:29:38,310 --> 02:29:40,200
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
Speedos. I don't even know they

2465
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:41,880
made shoes. What is the shoes
you

2466
02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:44,640
Adam Curry: had that look like
crocs. Alright, so that was the

2467
02:29:44,640 --> 02:29:49,110
conversation. And as part of
that tremendous value, one of

2468
02:29:49,110 --> 02:29:53,850
our producers said oh, let me
take you back to Episode 910.

2469
02:29:55,020 --> 02:29:57,660
What could be in that episode?
First.

2470
02:29:58,260 --> 02:30:02,970
John C Dvorak: The keyboard was
it was The floor probably

2471
02:30:02,970 --> 02:30:06,750
happening on the horror would
show what you're losing the

2472
02:30:06,750 --> 02:30:09,900
keyboard keyboards on the floor
and I kick it with my This

2473
02:30:09,900 --> 02:30:11,400
happened on our last year you
didn't notice

2474
02:30:11,670 --> 02:30:13,560
Adam Curry: we just crossed a
picket with a crock.

2475
02:30:14,580 --> 02:30:16,650
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
crocs, I wear Speedos.

2476
02:30:16,830 --> 02:30:20,910
Adam Curry: Oh no. happened
there.

2477
02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:25,050
John C Dvorak: Okay, there was a
brand issues that they had at

2478
02:30:25,050 --> 02:30:29,460
Costco ones that were made by
speedos and they had a slight

2479
02:30:29,460 --> 02:30:36,840
resemblance to a crock shoe. Now
I to speedos in play other garb,

2480
02:30:36,900 --> 02:30:37,230
never

2481
02:30:37,230 --> 02:30:39,480
Adam Curry: we knew it was about
the the shoes.

2482
02:30:41,850 --> 02:30:47,580
John C Dvorak: I had have put in
the in the in the safe and the

2483
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:52,560
zipped up that information. And
I have now in denial as to the

2484
02:30:52,560 --> 02:30:58,740
fact that those were Speedo
shoes that I had five years ago.

2485
02:31:00,210 --> 02:31:03,060
Adam Curry: The kids call this
receipt, I'm really happy

2486
02:31:03,060 --> 02:31:07,770
John C Dvorak: that the
producers out there have nothing

2487
02:31:07,770 --> 02:31:14,730
better to do dig up a slight
gash.

2488
02:31:18,390 --> 02:31:20,790
Adam Curry: That's value for
value right there. That's how it

2489
02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:24,060
works. Do you get it now? Do you
understand? That's value for

2490
02:31:24,060 --> 02:31:29,070
value. Thank you to our artists,
for submitting your artwork. We

2491
02:31:29,070 --> 02:31:35,220
really appreciate it all of you.
I mean, we have now there's a

2492
02:31:35,220 --> 02:31:38,670
little extra side issue to the
Art Generator being down all of

2493
02:31:38,670 --> 02:31:42,660
those beautiful chapter images
that Dred Scott does so

2494
02:31:42,660 --> 02:31:46,050
diligently for every single
show, which he's been doing it

2495
02:31:46,050 --> 02:31:48,780
for hundreds of shows, and I
think probably about 100 and

2496
02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:52,350
over 100 shows. They were all
linked to the Art Generator

2497
02:31:52,350 --> 02:31:56,130
images. So those of course are
temporarily down as well. So

2498
02:31:56,130 --> 02:31:59,190
he's been working with some
other systems because what we

2499
02:31:59,190 --> 02:32:01,740
does he take a lot it takes a
lot of this artwork that we did

2500
02:32:01,740 --> 02:32:04,890
not choose and puts it into the
chapter images for for each

2501
02:32:04,890 --> 02:32:07,110
individual show. Thank you for
that Drebin Thank you artists.

2502
02:32:07,260 --> 02:32:10,800
We appreciate you so much. And
we also want to thank of course

2503
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:15,540
the treasurer delivers value and
that means our executive and

2504
02:32:15,540 --> 02:32:18,510
Associate Executive producers
and then a very short list which

2505
02:32:18,510 --> 02:32:21,270
gets us to the 50s Before we get
into our meet up reports and we

2506
02:32:21,270 --> 02:32:25,800
kick it off with Baron not sure
from monument Colorado comes in

2507
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:32,040
with a satchel of Richard's that
is 111111 and it's a switcheroo

2508
02:32:33,240 --> 02:32:36,480
Hey Adam and John he writes
Baron not sure here I would like

2509
02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:43,650
to call up my sister Mary
Rochelle as a douchebag I can't

2510
02:32:43,650 --> 02:32:47,160
let her be the last one in our
family so I would also like to

2511
02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:53,640
credit this donation to her so
she can get a dee doo dee doo

2512
02:32:53,640 --> 02:32:57,720
she's a nice brother right
there. Can she get an old one

2513
02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:01,560
didn't have this one and Obama
you might die sorry Oh, I missed

2514
02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:07,380
that. I missed that. You might
die is what else do you want

2515
02:33:07,380 --> 02:33:12,900
with that? To do the head Oh
goodness gracious. I'm really

2516
02:33:12,900 --> 02:33:14,280
fell down on this one.

2517
02:33:14,730 --> 02:33:16,380
John C Dvorak: Today a little
girl yay.

2518
02:33:16,710 --> 02:33:18,960
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm looking
for two to the head here.

2519
02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:24,750
Where's to the head? Got it. But

2520
02:33:24,750 --> 02:33:26,490
John C Dvorak: you're doing that
I'll read the rest hang out a

2521
02:33:26,490 --> 02:33:30,210
little girl. Yeah, please name
her Dame Marie. And she's on the

2522
02:33:30,210 --> 02:33:35,250
list until she finds something
else more fitting be up to her

2523
02:33:35,970 --> 02:33:39,690
for the roundtable. She needs
some fava beans and a nice

2524
02:33:39,690 --> 02:33:44,130
Kiante that way we got a nice
Kenzie, thank you guys for your

2525
02:33:44,130 --> 02:33:48,690
courage and F for everything you
do mark, Rachel Rachel

2526
02:33:52,320 --> 02:33:55,680
Adam Curry: and your jobs karma
is here as well. Jobs,

2527
02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:58,410
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

2528
02:33:58,440 --> 02:34:05,370
John C Dvorak: Let's vote for
job. Karma. Continue with Aaron

2529
02:34:05,370 --> 02:34:12,240
Brzezinski in Ottawa, Tennessee,
or Etowah. One of the two. Aaron

2530
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:15,210
in Tennessee. This donation gets
me a knighthood. I'd like to be

2531
02:34:15,210 --> 02:34:19,680
known and by the way came with
33334. I'd like to be known as

2532
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:25,380
Sir Ahab Knight of the seven
seas and for all of your real

2533
02:34:25,380 --> 02:34:30,720
estate needs in Hawaii. Contact
my old friend Cynthia Harrison

2534
02:34:30,750 --> 02:34:35,190
edge ventures southerlies
International. That's a nice

2535
02:34:35,190 --> 02:34:38,670
play for your old friends
Cynthia Cynthia Harrison

2536
02:34:38,670 --> 02:34:43,350
adventure Sotheby's? We need
green crackers at the table.

2537
02:34:43,380 --> 02:34:43,680
That's

2538
02:34:43,710 --> 02:34:48,330
Adam Curry: right, the old ones
I left there are green now. Jim

2539
02:34:48,330 --> 02:34:52,440
Bob way and vite Countess
Maryanne Schneeberger from

2540
02:34:52,620 --> 02:34:56,700
Shotzi land 333 33 Thanks for
everything you do. They say

2541
02:34:56,700 --> 02:35:00,000
tomorrow is our 10th wedding
anniversary and they never had

2542
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:03,300
had a fight. So I'm wishing my
wonderful wife, vi Countess

2543
02:35:03,300 --> 02:35:07,740
Marianne Schneeberger all my
love. Love remains lit JimBob

2544
02:35:07,740 --> 02:35:11,520
way, and by contrast, Marian
Schneeberger of Shotzi land that

2545
02:35:11,520 --> 02:35:15,090
John C Dvorak: came in as a as a
direct bank transfer.

2546
02:35:15,900 --> 02:35:17,670
Adam Curry: Oh, how does that
work? How do you how?

2547
02:35:17,940 --> 02:35:20,160
John C Dvorak: Let's find the
best straight swift bank

2548
02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:22,680
transfers? Oh, that works. Oh,
yeah, it

2549
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:25,530
Adam Curry: works no problem so
we're not we except from Russia.

2550
02:35:26,700 --> 02:35:29,160
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about Russia. Not on the Yeah,

2551
02:35:29,160 --> 02:35:34,320
because they gotta cut out cut
them out. Drat. Indy, no agenda

2552
02:35:34,320 --> 02:35:37,170
meetup came in again with
Greenway in Greenwood, Indiana

2553
02:35:37,170 --> 02:35:41,640
with another $333.33 And as a
switcheroo from December 4 The

2554
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:45,540
Indian origin to meet up on
behalf of please pirate LLC and

2555
02:35:45,900 --> 02:35:50,880
in pain 2007 I'm not gonna give
out email addresses. Please

2556
02:35:50,880 --> 02:35:56,100
pirate LLC is the parent company
for the band. Dead. We're a

2557
02:35:56,100 --> 02:35:59,250
value for value band from
Cincinnati, Ohio. The band

2558
02:35:59,250 --> 02:36:03,810
consists of Baron scoops and
douchebag Nate you can find us

2559
02:36:03,810 --> 02:36:08,670
at the www please pirate
media.com and

2560
02:36:08,670 --> 02:36:15,330
youtube@youtube.com at at please
pirate if you like rock music

2561
02:36:15,330 --> 02:36:19,380
and no agenda themes you might
like us karma for all and a D

2562
02:36:19,380 --> 02:36:20,970
douching. D douching for

2563
02:36:22,830 --> 02:36:28,110
Unknown: you've been D deuced
you've got karma

2564
02:36:28,830 --> 02:36:31,890
Adam Curry: I met those guys. I
met those guys to meet up very

2565
02:36:31,890 --> 02:36:35,340
nice. Actually talk with them
for quite a while and they were

2566
02:36:35,340 --> 02:36:38,040
like hey man, we got a small box
with some of our you know some

2567
02:36:38,040 --> 02:36:41,610
of our merch and stuff. And can
you take that? Yes. Okay, we

2568
02:36:41,610 --> 02:36:44,520
just had carry on. They come out
with like, you know this huge

2569
02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:48,630
box like now you can send that
to the PIO box. It was a little

2570
02:36:48,630 --> 02:36:52,230
bit too much. But this stuff is
good. I agree you you would like

2571
02:36:52,230 --> 02:36:55,230
him if you like. If you'd like
rock music and no agenda you'd

2572
02:36:55,230 --> 02:36:59,490
like those guys. $300 from
Garrett Hampton Broken Arrow

2573
02:36:59,490 --> 02:37:01,860
Oklahoma says thank you for the
many years of media

2574
02:37:01,860 --> 02:37:04,950
deconstruction. Your early
coverage of the Common Core

2575
02:37:04,950 --> 02:37:08,610
education standards nightmare
many years ago, was a huge eye

2576
02:37:08,610 --> 02:37:12,480
opener for my wife and me and
was pivotable pivotal in our

2577
02:37:12,480 --> 02:37:18,360
decision to homeschool our kids.
Another human resource saved are

2578
02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:22,200
created. So many of our current
cultural and political problems

2579
02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:25,140
can be traced to the massive
failure of the public education

2580
02:37:25,140 --> 02:37:28,890
system. Parents Christmas break
is the perfect time to bring

2581
02:37:28,890 --> 02:37:34,110
your kids home from school for
Good is nice. If you considered

2582
02:37:34,110 --> 02:37:36,870
homeschooling but have no idea
where to start. We have the

2583
02:37:36,870 --> 02:37:41,340
perfect resource for you. Oh, no
agenda producers can stream

2584
02:37:41,370 --> 02:37:46,470
schoolhouse rocked the
homeschool revolution for free

2585
02:37:46,890 --> 02:37:52,800
at Schoolhouse Rock
movie.com/itm schoolhouse rocked

2586
02:37:52,860 --> 02:37:58,200
that's not rock but rocked.
movie.com/itm After many years

2587
02:37:58,200 --> 02:38:01,290
of chipping away this donation
brings me to night status. I'd

2588
02:38:01,290 --> 02:38:04,890
like to be known as Sir thinking
dad, guardian of the home

2589
02:38:04,890 --> 02:38:08,280
educators and we'd love sushi
and unsweet tea at the

2590
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:12,480
roundtable no pagan karma or
jingles for me. Thanks, God

2591
02:38:12,480 --> 02:38:15,630
bless Garrett Hampton and God
bless you Garrett Thank you.

2592
02:38:17,490 --> 02:38:19,320
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna you're
gonna read the next one but

2593
02:38:19,320 --> 02:38:22,680
first I'll read this one's Linda
LAPACK in in Lakewood, Colorado

2594
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:26,910
and 200 bucks jobs karma she
wants and then she says believe

2595
02:38:26,910 --> 02:38:29,700
it or not, she says the
following. For a remarkable

2596
02:38:29,700 --> 02:38:33,300
resume that gets results go to
Image makers inc.com For all of

2597
02:38:33,300 --> 02:38:37,680
your executive resume and job
search needs. And then she

2598
02:38:37,710 --> 02:38:43,440
iterates that's image makers Inc
with a que va.com or just find

2599
02:38:43,440 --> 02:38:47,070
Linda Lou patcon under the
show's producers list, jobs,

2600
02:38:47,220 --> 02:38:51,450
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, or
jobs.

2601
02:38:54,750 --> 02:38:58,380
Adam Curry: Very nice donation
here from iTunes Crapo from

2602
02:38:58,380 --> 02:39:00,690
Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Associate Executive Producer

2603
02:39:00,690 --> 02:39:05,850
with 200. He says about three
years ago, my douchebag friend

2604
02:39:05,850 --> 02:39:09,060
Fritz de lunga hit me in the
mouth with some stories about

2605
02:39:09,060 --> 02:39:13,140
COVID. He also mentioned his
high school friend and my idol

2606
02:39:13,140 --> 02:39:17,370
for my teenage years. Adam
curry. That's how I found out

2607
02:39:17,370 --> 02:39:20,250
about the no agenda show. Since
then. I've been hooked and a

2608
02:39:20,250 --> 02:39:23,640
steady listener of your podcast.
Keep up the great work you do

2609
02:39:23,640 --> 02:39:29,700
you guys do? Good. you deduce
me. You've been de deuced and

2610
02:39:29,700 --> 02:39:35,430
call out my douchebag friend
Fritz. Who I have here on board

2611
02:39:35,430 --> 02:39:40,530
with me on my KlM 667 flight to
Austin today. Adam, if you

2612
02:39:40,530 --> 02:39:43,650
happen to have time for a cup of
coffee tomorrow or Saturday, I

2613
02:39:43,650 --> 02:39:46,980
will be honored to meet you. But
free liquor through Arnold

2614
02:39:46,980 --> 02:39:49,680
Crapo. Well, this is
interesting, because if it's too

2615
02:39:49,680 --> 02:39:53,820
long, not only Well, we didn't
go to school together. He was my

2616
02:39:53,820 --> 02:39:59,190
neighbor for many years in NASA
Nomsa was even before I lived in

2617
02:39:59,190 --> 02:40:05,130
Amsterdam, And he's a 747
Captain as his audience, and he

2618
02:40:05,130 --> 02:40:08,100
reached out to me, he texted me.
And he said, Hey, I'm going to

2619
02:40:08,100 --> 02:40:11,550
be in Austin. And you want to
hook up and have some coffee. I

2620
02:40:11,550 --> 02:40:13,710
said, Well, I live in Hill
Country. Can you guys come out

2621
02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:17,760
here? I texted him back. I
didn't text me back. So somehow

2622
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:20,550
we missed the communications.
And I'm really sorry. Yeah.

2623
02:40:20,580 --> 02:40:21,570
Because, well, they'll

2624
02:40:21,570 --> 02:40:23,070
John C Dvorak: fly back out
there again.

2625
02:40:23,100 --> 02:40:25,380
Adam Curry: There's nothing more
fun than hanging out with with

2626
02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:29,100
747 captains because we could
have learned a few things I'm

2627
02:40:29,100 --> 02:40:33,510
sure. So tailwinds guys, thank
you very much. Sorry, we missed

2628
02:40:33,510 --> 02:40:36,690
each other. And that is it for
executive and Associate

2629
02:40:36,690 --> 02:40:40,530
Executive producers for episode
1615. These credits are real,

2630
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:44,490
which means they're recognized
anywhere credits are recognized

2631
02:40:44,490 --> 02:40:47,430
at all, which of course, is
Hollywood. But it's very

2632
02:40:47,430 --> 02:40:49,890
impressive on your resume, you
can stick it right there on your

2633
02:40:49,890 --> 02:40:52,980
LinkedIn profile or open up if
you don't have one already, an

2634
02:40:52,980 --> 02:40:57,630
IMDB profile. imdb.com. Unlike
the douchebags in Hollywood, if

2635
02:40:57,630 --> 02:41:01,530
anyone questions, the validity,
or what you did, as a producer,

2636
02:41:01,530 --> 02:41:04,560
or executive producer will vouch
for you, let us know we'll take

2637
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:07,350
care of you. And thank you again
for supporting no agenda show

2638
02:41:07,350 --> 02:41:10,590
1615. John's going to take us
through the 50s and I'll get our

2639
02:41:10,590 --> 02:41:11,040
meetups

2640
02:41:12,270 --> 02:41:14,850
John C Dvorak: began by saying
the total number of donations

2641
02:41:14,850 --> 02:41:17,940
over 50 Today is 29. Yeah,

2642
02:41:17,970 --> 02:41:20,820
Adam Curry: it's not a lot. We
have a million people who

2643
02:41:20,820 --> 02:41:21,330
listen,

2644
02:41:21,810 --> 02:41:25,080
John C Dvorak: we have a million
well, almost a million people

2645
02:41:25,110 --> 02:41:30,870
missing nine or 1000. And we
have 29,000 on the mailing list,

2646
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:35,100
which means and the mailing list
alone, one out of 10,000 people

2647
02:41:36,270 --> 02:41:38,970
contributed to the show and you
know well done

2648
02:41:38,970 --> 02:41:43,470
Adam Curry: everybody. Thanks
for that. Of 10,000 Well, how

2649
02:41:43,470 --> 02:41:45,810
you doing all that value from I
guess good one out of 10,000

2650
02:41:45,810 --> 02:41:51,990
sends us something thanks. love
my job and I love my truck.

2651
02:41:53,760 --> 02:41:57,030
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay. I
will redo the math is one out of

2652
02:41:57,030 --> 02:42:01,770
1000 but it's still low. Mary
Rochelle in bauxite. What a

2653
02:42:01,770 --> 02:42:04,020
great name for a ton they must
have. I'm guessing there's

2654
02:42:04,020 --> 02:42:10,410
aluminum. Bauxite, Arizona,
Arkansas. 121 13 And there's a

2655
02:42:10,410 --> 02:42:14,700
birthday there's a switcheroo
birthday call for Alex or

2656
02:42:14,730 --> 02:42:19,140
Rochelle Rochelle. And he needs
a biscuit for

2657
02:42:19,140 --> 02:42:21,090
Adam Curry: his birthday. Well,
not just the biscuit for the

2658
02:42:21,090 --> 02:42:24,120
birthday. Isn't there a deducing
in there as well? I thought is

2659
02:42:24,120 --> 02:42:24,870
there I think so.

2660
02:42:26,640 --> 02:42:28,680
Unknown: You've been d do they

2661
02:42:28,680 --> 02:42:31,080
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday.

2662
02:42:32,400 --> 02:42:37,470
John C Dvorak: Okay, Elizabeth
Gunther or Gunther? Probably

2663
02:42:37,470 --> 02:42:41,670
Gunther in Texas. Round Rock,
Texas. 100. Michael Butler's San

2664
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:44,400
Francisco guest Michael buck.
Rock'n'roll geek

2665
02:42:44,400 --> 02:42:45,300
Adam Curry: show, baby.

2666
02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:47,730
John C Dvorak: That's right. And
he says he's no longer a

2667
02:42:47,730 --> 02:42:49,500
douchebag you have to do Sheesh.

2668
02:42:51,660 --> 02:42:52,770
Unknown: De douche to

2669
02:42:53,970 --> 02:42:57,660
Adam Curry: me. I note that this
January he will be inducted into

2670
02:42:57,660 --> 02:43:04,200
the podcast Hall of Fame. He
will chess and rightly so. He is

2671
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:07,290
one of the Oh geez. Way back.
He's definitely been doing it

2672
02:43:07,290 --> 02:43:10,050
forever. Rock'n'roll geek show.
Michael Butler. Thank you very

2673
02:43:10,050 --> 02:43:10,620
much brother.

2674
02:43:11,940 --> 02:43:14,280
John C Dvorak: Sir Bryce said I
should go visit you know he's

2675
02:43:14,370 --> 02:43:17,940
I've been to his house. He's
it's a very interesting part of

2676
02:43:17,940 --> 02:43:18,210
town.

2677
02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:20,790
Adam Curry: You use herbicides.
You used to get beef together.

2678
02:43:21,690 --> 02:43:22,050
Yeah,

2679
02:43:22,050 --> 02:43:25,680
John C Dvorak: we used to
actually, we were well we bought

2680
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:29,910
also bought a pig together. And
I think it was a pig that were

2681
02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:32,220
the story. He tells the story
because I couldn't I was doing I

2682
02:43:32,220 --> 02:43:35,250
think I was working on this
show. He went out to the to the

2683
02:43:35,250 --> 02:43:38,790
auction. And it was either a cow
or a pig. But whatever it was,

2684
02:43:38,790 --> 02:43:44,790
the story is, is he went to the
auction. And he he bought a pig.

2685
02:43:45,150 --> 02:43:49,950
He bought the animal but he was
a low bid. And not only was it a

2686
02:43:49,950 --> 02:43:53,190
low bid, he got the thing.
Cheap. We had it butchered and

2687
02:43:53,460 --> 02:43:57,660
three legs. No, no, it was a
fine animal. But the thing was

2688
02:43:57,660 --> 02:44:01,380
that he had to mention that the
little girl who sold the animals

2689
02:44:01,380 --> 02:44:07,020
and in tears and and he kind of
thought that was kind of fun.

2690
02:44:09,120 --> 02:44:11,280
Adam Curry: And then when did
you drop him as a friend? You

2691
02:44:11,280 --> 02:44:15,000
just just said that we've
dropped him as a friendly I'm

2692
02:44:15,000 --> 02:44:15,570
not calling you

2693
02:44:15,570 --> 02:44:21,270
John C Dvorak: in now. Now we
somehow he got into butchering,

2694
02:44:21,420 --> 02:44:23,130
and I haven't really talked to
him since

2695
02:44:23,310 --> 02:44:27,450
Adam Curry: he was actually he
was doing meats for dogs. Oh

2696
02:44:27,450 --> 02:44:29,670
John C Dvorak: yeah. And
actually says we now own a

2697
02:44:29,670 --> 02:44:30,240
kennel.

2698
02:44:31,980 --> 02:44:33,180
Adam Curry: Like they should get
in touch with them.

2699
02:44:33,690 --> 02:44:35,670
John C Dvorak: I think but I
think Butler should provide the

2700
02:44:35,670 --> 02:44:39,060
treats. I agree. Okay, I'll get
a hold of them because Brian

2701
02:44:39,060 --> 02:44:44,460
Tobias and and Gardner, Kansas
eight D 808. And Kevin

2702
02:44:44,460 --> 02:44:49,200
McLaughlin in Concord, North
Carolina 808 And he says boobs

2703
02:44:49,200 --> 02:44:56,040
are the original stress balls.
Curiously, he's with this

2704
02:44:56,070 --> 02:44:59,640
donation saying was so short,
that he's right up against it

2705
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:05,550
was so 606 And he doesn't have a
comment on that. 606 donation.

2706
02:45:05,820 --> 02:45:11,250
Daniel Mudge, Fairborn, Ohio
606, Baron of BNA in Nashville,

2707
02:45:11,250 --> 02:45:18,360
Tennessee. 5993 submode paths in
memory Louisiana to D 510.

2708
02:45:20,070 --> 02:45:22,890
Adam Curry: A nice note, let me
just read this, because this

2709
02:45:22,890 --> 02:45:26,280
just shows you how this has
value. And we got value back.

2710
02:45:26,280 --> 02:45:29,370
Thank you. I've been dealing
with serious medical emergencies

2711
02:45:29,370 --> 02:45:32,190
with my elderly parents in
September 30. I was listening to

2712
02:45:32,190 --> 02:45:35,790
the global donut episode in the
hospital today and laughed for

2713
02:45:35,790 --> 02:45:38,940
the first time all month
listening to you and Adam break

2714
02:45:38,940 --> 02:45:41,610
down NPR. Thank you. Thank you.

2715
02:45:43,950 --> 02:45:50,370
John C Dvorak: Global donut.
Paul have Rev. Re. Paul growth

2716
02:45:50,370 --> 02:45:55,500
rigged. And for Greg den Hill,
frozen Hill. Yeah, I'm sure he

2717
02:45:55,500 --> 02:45:58,680
doesn't pronounce it that way in
Madison, Wisconsin, but he did

2718
02:45:58,860 --> 02:46:05,700
contribute 55 Garis or jerris
Corporation. I think it's Garis.

2719
02:46:05,700 --> 02:46:09,660
I don't know. Arlington,
Virginia. 53. He's a job karma

2720
02:46:09,660 --> 02:46:12,270
for the circus of the pike and
we'll put that at the end.

2721
02:46:12,510 --> 02:46:20,460
Cameron. Cameron Linga in North
Branch Minnesota nuts 5161 Bad

2722
02:46:20,460 --> 02:46:23,880
idea supply. And for some
reason, we don't know where they

2723
02:46:23,880 --> 02:46:30,510
are anymore. $50.50 And now we
have a loved idea, by the way a

2724
02:46:30,510 --> 02:46:35,790
bad idea supply. William Kidwell
in Dover, Delaware. 50. These

2725
02:46:35,790 --> 02:46:38,160
are all 50s Just the name and
location. We're going to wrap

2726
02:46:38,160 --> 02:46:44,010
this up. Quickly. George was
shot in love hernia, Texas, cat

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pet chiropractic PLLC and Capek
Michigan. Check them out if your

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backs out. Paul DuBois in can
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York William Spain in
Springdale, Arkansas Nadia borg

2730
02:47:03,030 --> 02:47:07,860
in San Marcos, California,
Steven Chu make in Xenia, Ohio.

2731
02:47:08,220 --> 02:47:13,950
Michelle petty in Grand Forks,
North Dakota, and Margarita

2732
02:47:13,950 --> 02:47:17,760
ended hood in orange Vale,
California. And that wraps our

2733
02:47:17,760 --> 02:47:22,230
donation segment up for show
1615 next show 1616 That should

2734
02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:23,190
give you some ideas.

2735
02:47:24,990 --> 02:47:26,610
Adam Curry: Yeah, will it give
us some ideas?

2736
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:28,260
John C Dvorak: I can't think of
any.

2737
02:47:29,370 --> 02:47:32,730
Adam Curry: Now I have a this is
a second winner of the indie na

2738
02:47:32,730 --> 02:47:36,540
meet up email. No, ma'am. I'm
just gonna read this because I'm

2739
02:47:36,540 --> 02:47:39,330
not sure what the back office
wants me to do. But there's a

2740
02:47:39,330 --> 02:47:42,390
whole bunch of raffle winners
and their donations are coming.

2741
02:47:42,390 --> 02:47:44,940
So oh, this is from John Jones.
I'll read it. Oh, hey, Adam. And

2742
02:47:44,940 --> 02:47:47,460
John. Just want to thank Adam
and the keeper for coming to the

2743
02:47:47,460 --> 02:47:50,100
Indianapolis meetup. I was one
of the lucky winners of the

2744
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:53,790
raffle for an executive producer
level donation. So he wasn't

2745
02:47:53,790 --> 02:47:54,870
unlisted. I was he.

2746
02:47:56,880 --> 02:47:58,890
John C Dvorak: But there was
somebody on the list from there.

2747
02:47:59,130 --> 02:48:04,080
We have to make these. This has
to be consolidated. We can't

2748
02:48:04,170 --> 02:48:07,230
stretch out one meet up over 10
shows.

2749
02:48:07,350 --> 02:48:09,390
Adam Curry: Yeah, well,
especially because I don't see

2750
02:48:09,390 --> 02:48:13,740
it here. So well. It'll be in
for Thursday. So John, yeah,

2751
02:48:13,740 --> 02:48:17,760
it'll be in for Thursday, I
guess. Yeah. Because all those

2752
02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:22,200
are Executive Associate
Executive Producer levels. So

2753
02:48:22,440 --> 02:48:25,230
that will work that out. John
Jones will work it out. Don't

2754
02:48:25,230 --> 02:48:29,310
worry about it. Thank you very
much to our execs, our Associate

2755
02:48:29,310 --> 02:48:32,130
Executive producers and of
course, everybody who came in

2756
02:48:32,160 --> 02:48:36,000
under $50 For reasons of
anonymity, or perhaps you're on

2757
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:39,390
one of the sustaining donations
they really help during donation

2758
02:48:39,390 --> 02:48:43,380
days like this, when it's you
know, the total is 29 above 50.

2759
02:48:44,100 --> 02:48:47,520
You can do any type of number
you want. You can do you know

2760
02:48:47,520 --> 02:48:52,110
something periodic once every
week, once every show day. Just

2761
02:48:52,110 --> 02:48:54,780
make it something recurring.
We're very appreciative. You can

2762
02:48:54,960 --> 02:48:58,740
find out more about that at no
agenda donations.com or

2763
02:48:58,860 --> 02:49:03,570
vora.org/in as requested jobs,

2764
02:49:03,720 --> 02:49:07,890
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2765
02:49:10,560 --> 02:49:12,870
Adam Curry: And thank you again
for everybody who supported us

2766
02:49:12,870 --> 02:49:16,800
here for the no agenda Show
episode 1650 Our

2767
02:49:16,800 --> 02:49:21,240
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out we get people in the mouth

2768
02:49:40,860 --> 02:49:44,040
Adam Curry: and now I understand
why that was on the list. Why

2769
02:49:44,040 --> 02:49:47,220
that? John Jones donation was
there because he has a birthday

2770
02:49:47,400 --> 02:49:50,430
and he wishes his human resource
Desmond a happy birthday who

2771
02:49:50,430 --> 02:49:54,900
turned one year old on December
6. Baron or BNA wishes his

2772
02:49:54,900 --> 02:49:58,410
smokin hot wife Jessica a good
one, and that good one took

2773
02:49:58,410 --> 02:50:01,710
place or takes place tomorrow.
are on the 11th and Marie

2774
02:50:01,710 --> 02:50:05,070
Rochelle wishes her brother Alex
Rachele, a happy birthday we say

2775
02:50:05,070 --> 02:50:07,920
happy birthday from everybody.
Here's the best podcast in the

2776
02:50:07,920 --> 02:50:14,700
universe. We have one Dame and
we have two nights so that'll be

2777
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you oh our careful. There we go.

2778
02:50:23,640 --> 02:50:27,150
Murray Rocio Aaron Brzezinski
and Garrett Hampton all up on

2779
02:50:27,150 --> 02:50:30,480
the podium all three of you are
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2780
02:50:30,480 --> 02:50:32,700
of the no agenda roundtable.
Thank you so much for your

2781
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contribution. And I'm very proud
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2796
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thank you for becoming the most
recent nights and days of the no

2797
02:51:29,610 --> 02:51:31,950
agenda show No one sat down

2798
02:51:37,680 --> 02:51:42,030
we have a couple of meetup
reports. The first one is this

2799
02:51:42,030 --> 02:51:46,260
is the second annual holiday
meet up Gore melts. Hi,

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02:51:47,220 --> 02:51:51,390
Unknown: I'm Alex Maga macaroni
and cheese cheddar mouth and to

2801
02:51:51,390 --> 02:51:55,020
gather at gar mouths hi this is
Marshall coming to you 60 miles

2802
02:51:55,020 --> 02:51:57,930
south of spook Central. We thank
you for your courage in the

2803
02:51:57,930 --> 02:52:00,630
morning. This is Dame trill
chicken here look here's the

2804
02:52:00,630 --> 02:52:03,480
deal I'm on the offensive life
is a scam in the morning is

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02:52:03,480 --> 02:52:04,290
robbed from Richmond.

2806
02:52:04,410 --> 02:52:05,880
This is their from Richmond.
I've

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02:52:05,880 --> 02:52:08,940
got ants in the morning another
Chris from King George. This is

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02:52:08,940 --> 02:52:13,050
Roger rowdy. Stop the hammering
round Dave Starkweather. Happy

2809
02:52:13,050 --> 02:52:17,280
to be here. We're protecting?

2810
02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:21,840
Adam Curry: Yes, Tom
Starkweather. And his much

2811
02:52:21,840 --> 02:52:24,750
better half Alex and the whole
crew there and spoke Central.

2812
02:52:24,750 --> 02:52:27,510
Thank you all very much. Here's
the five fort first Thursday

2813
02:52:27,510 --> 02:52:30,510
meet up report. All right. This
is Sir Matt with the five forks

2814
02:52:30,510 --> 02:52:34,110
first Thursday. No agenda meet
up in the morning to you. Hey,

2815
02:52:34,110 --> 02:52:34,320
this

2816
02:52:34,320 --> 02:52:36,750
Unknown: is Gary. My wife didn't
want to come but she's curious

2817
02:52:36,750 --> 02:52:39,150
what this is about. So when I
get home, I'm going to give her

2818
02:52:39,150 --> 02:52:40,050
the whole load

2819
02:52:40,260 --> 02:52:43,200
in the morning and thank you for
your courage and we're not

2820
02:52:43,200 --> 02:52:44,010
drinking seltzer.

2821
02:52:44,220 --> 02:52:46,470
Hey, this is Joe. I'm just
trying not to get roasted.

2822
02:52:46,530 --> 02:52:50,100
Hey, this is Drew it's my first
meetup and everybody has a tiny

2823
02:52:50,100 --> 02:52:51,570
amygdala and I love it.

2824
02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:55,560
Don't eat me Joe Biden, you
scary so scary day.

2825
02:52:55,560 --> 02:52:58,440
Adam Curry: And of course we'll
have that six minute what you're

2826
02:52:58,440 --> 02:53:02,910
thankful for meetup report from
Indianapolis. Of course. Besides

2827
02:53:02,940 --> 02:53:08,010
that, we got the Cuf or RSV or
Zika or Ebola whatever it is

2828
02:53:08,010 --> 02:53:11,400
pick your choice. We had a great
time and we really love all you

2829
02:53:11,400 --> 02:53:14,940
guys out there it was it was a
lot of fun. We have one meet up

2830
02:53:14,940 --> 02:53:18,810
happening to know on Thursday
nothing today on the 14th the

2831
02:53:18,810 --> 02:53:22,290
Mile High meet up 630 Mountain
Time Lincoln's Roadhouse in

2832
02:53:22,290 --> 02:53:26,460
Denver, Colorado, and up until
Christmas let's see Gloucester,

2833
02:53:26,460 --> 02:53:29,580
Virginia, Epping, New Hampshire,
Fort Worth Texas, Cincinnati,

2834
02:53:29,820 --> 02:53:33,210
Lansdale, Pennsylvania, Los
Angeles, Columbus, Longview,

2835
02:53:33,210 --> 02:53:38,190
Texas, Alpharetta, Georgia,
North Carolina Sofia, Sofia,

2836
02:53:38,190 --> 02:53:41,880
Bulgaria Hello, Sofia, I do want
a report from you. After

2837
02:53:41,880 --> 02:53:45,390
Christmas, Indonesia Lombok,
which is next to Bali on the

2838
02:53:45,390 --> 02:53:49,950
28th Hayward, Wisconsin, the
Virgin Islands towards Tortola

2839
02:53:49,980 --> 02:53:54,480
Tortola Virgin Islands. I'll be
on Jordan Cola, Tortola on on

2840
02:53:54,480 --> 02:53:58,200
the first nice, Denver, Colorado
Fort Wayne, Indiana

2841
02:53:58,200 --> 02:54:02,190
Indianapolis, Indiana Oh, to
spread it out by a week luckily.

2842
02:54:02,430 --> 02:54:05,280
And Albany, California that's
the get John out of the house

2843
02:54:05,280 --> 02:54:10,590
meet up and Anna, Texas on the
eighth which will be for the big

2844
02:54:11,160 --> 02:54:16,110
solar eclipse. Those are just
the meetups that I have listed.

2845
02:54:16,110 --> 02:54:19,170
There's many more no agenda
meetups.com one of those great,

2846
02:54:19,470 --> 02:54:24,690
no agenda producer actually
night Daniel, manage and set up

2847
02:54:24,930 --> 02:54:28,440
that whole website, which is
much better than meet ups.com

2848
02:54:28,440 --> 02:54:31,440
which we were using back in the
day. So it's no agenda ups.com

2849
02:54:32,220 --> 02:54:35,310
Wait until you hear the
wonderful human resources or end

2850
02:54:35,310 --> 02:54:38,010
of show MCS and what they were
thankful for. I think that when

2851
02:54:38,010 --> 02:54:41,670
you hear that you will say yes,
this is a group so diverse. If

2852
02:54:41,700 --> 02:54:44,700
every Meetup is like that I need
to be at one and you know what

2853
02:54:44,700 --> 02:54:47,130
you do? It's the perfect
companion to your no agenda

2854
02:54:47,130 --> 02:54:50,160
podcast. Go to no agenda
meetups.com If you can't find a

2855
02:54:50,160 --> 02:54:53,310
meet up near you start one
yourself. It's easy and always a

2856
02:54:53,310 --> 02:55:03,810
party to go hang out with Dyson
day. You won't be triggered

2857
02:55:07,470 --> 02:55:17,790
everybody feels the same and I
love what I do. That's the one.

2858
02:55:19,170 --> 02:55:20,040
That's the one.

2859
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:23,220
John C Dvorak: I only have one
eye so oh

2860
02:55:23,220 --> 02:55:24,840
Adam Curry: goodness. Okay

2861
02:55:30,360 --> 02:55:31,350
shall I play it? No.

2862
02:55:31,770 --> 02:55:33,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I might as
well. What's a holiday?

2863
02:55:35,220 --> 02:55:38,790
Adam Curry: Nice fry. What's a
holiday? That's pretty good. Let

2864
02:55:38,790 --> 02:55:44,190
me see what I have. That's a
wow. Mm hmm. And if you love

2865
02:55:44,190 --> 02:55:46,140
America, you throw money in its
hole.

2866
02:55:49,380 --> 02:55:53,640
John C Dvorak: You throw money
what in this hole? Disgusted is

2867
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:55,680
I don't wear crocs wear Speedos.

2868
02:55:55,860 --> 02:55:57,930
Adam Curry: That's an ISO.
That's a nice oh, if I ever

2869
02:55:57,930 --> 02:55:58,500
heard one.

2870
02:55:59,370 --> 02:56:03,210
John C Dvorak: I would say,
Well, I think there's a toss up

2871
02:56:03,210 --> 02:56:05,610
there we have between ankle fry.

2872
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:10,530
Adam Curry: Yes. On vocal fry.
What the hell is that? Yeah. And

2873
02:56:10,530 --> 02:56:12,180
then that's a wow, I

2874
02:56:12,180 --> 02:56:14,070
John C Dvorak: think the WoW is
better. Really? I

2875
02:56:14,070 --> 02:56:15,750
Adam Curry: was gonna say the
vocal fry actually,

2876
02:56:15,780 --> 02:56:17,160
John C Dvorak: well used the
vocal fry.

2877
02:56:17,220 --> 02:56:19,680
Adam Curry: I think I think
that's a little bit better. Let

2878
02:56:19,680 --> 02:56:22,590
me let me just listen to it
again. What's the whole is that

2879
02:56:23,220 --> 02:56:29,940
is put is this gray fry is a
decent fry. To good fry. Let me

2880
02:56:29,940 --> 02:56:33,870
see what time is it? It's almost
that time? I would say it is

2881
02:56:33,870 --> 02:56:37,560
that time. So it's time What
time is it? You know, it's the

2882
02:56:37,560 --> 02:56:40,440
time it's, you know, it's the
thing, man, it's the time what

2883
02:56:40,440 --> 02:56:44,160
time is everyone saying? Well,
it's the time and now it's time

2884
02:56:44,160 --> 02:56:51,390
for Google. GCD good news, the
JCD This is how we end every

2885
02:56:51,390 --> 02:56:54,390
single show these days. To get
you in a good mood and feeling

2886
02:56:54,390 --> 02:56:57,720
great for the few days in
between shows. Because we know

2887
02:56:57,720 --> 02:57:00,210
the world can be tough. If you
don't have your media

2888
02:57:00,210 --> 02:57:03,390
deconstructors right next to you
all the time to hold your hand.

2889
02:57:03,390 --> 02:57:06,660
So good news will put you in the
right mood. What do you have for

2890
02:57:06,660 --> 02:57:07,410
good news, John?

2891
02:57:09,780 --> 02:57:11,580
John C Dvorak: One of the
another animal story.

2892
02:57:14,190 --> 02:57:15,960
Adam Curry: Oh, this good news.
Here we

2893
02:57:15,960 --> 02:57:17,640
Unknown: go. Our feel good.
Friday starts with a

2894
02:57:17,640 --> 02:57:20,640
heartwarming story out of
October hung county a Courageous

2895
02:57:20,640 --> 02:57:25,110
Cat is reunited with his family
after he was missing for two

2896
02:57:25,140 --> 02:57:28,680
years. Three years this sticks
the ActiveHybrid County Humane

2897
02:57:28,680 --> 02:57:32,280
Society shared how this
incredible feline found his way

2898
02:57:32,280 --> 02:57:35,370
home. It's all thanks to a
microchip. This is a small

2899
02:57:35,370 --> 02:57:39,240
device implanted under a pet's
skin carrying vital information

2900
02:57:39,240 --> 02:57:43,530
like contact details. It became
fish sticks ticket back to his

2901
02:57:43,530 --> 02:57:47,100
family after a long separation.
The Animal Shelter says this

2902
02:57:47,100 --> 02:57:50,730
story highlights the importance
of microchipping your Furbabies

2903
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:54,210
a simple act can make miracles
like this one happen.

2904
02:57:55,440 --> 02:58:03,960
A good news story from JCD happy
vibes for me and we all feel

2905
02:58:03,960 --> 02:58:09,090
better now he's done his bit. To
back to reality that's turning

2906
02:58:09,090 --> 02:58:10,470
to shit. Beautiful.

2907
02:58:11,010 --> 02:58:13,440
Adam Curry: Beautiful, John,
that was beautiful, man. I

2908
02:58:13,440 --> 02:58:19,350
really loved it. Nothing like a
cat story of furbaby

2909
02:58:19,890 --> 02:58:22,530
John C Dvorak: disappear for two
years and they're talking about

2910
02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:25,980
great These chips are when they
get the cat back home like you

2911
02:58:25,980 --> 02:58:26,820
know within a month.

2912
02:58:27,060 --> 02:58:30,810
Adam Curry: Cat didn't want to
go home. Cats like no, you name

2913
02:58:30,960 --> 02:58:31,830
this dicks.

2914
02:58:32,580 --> 02:58:33,900
John C Dvorak: fish sticks.

2915
02:58:35,130 --> 02:58:39,810
Adam Curry: That's the problem.
Don't name your name and give me

2916
02:58:39,810 --> 02:58:42,330
a K give me an animal a good
name. People don't do anything

2917
02:58:42,330 --> 02:58:50,220
like that. All right, time for
me to hit the anvil. But here's

2918
02:58:50,220 --> 02:58:54,750
your real good news. We'll be
back on Thursday with another

2919
02:58:54,780 --> 02:58:58,800
JAM PACKED episode full of media
deconstruction to help you get a

2920
02:58:58,800 --> 02:59:02,070
better view of your world which
is distorted by those douchebags

2921
02:59:02,070 --> 02:59:05,520
and mainstream media. And many
alternative media turns out

2922
02:59:05,520 --> 02:59:08,940
these days can't trust your
podcast anymore. It's getting

2923
02:59:08,940 --> 02:59:11,760
crazy. Coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country

2924
02:59:11,760 --> 02:59:14,970
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm

2925
02:59:14,970 --> 02:59:15,540
Adam curry,

2926
02:59:15,870 --> 02:59:19,410
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain

2927
02:59:19,410 --> 02:59:20,760
I'm Jhansi Dvorak coming

2928
02:59:20,760 --> 02:59:23,940
Adam Curry: up next, I know
agenda stream.com Troll room.io

2929
02:59:23,940 --> 02:59:27,510
And on the modern podcast apps,
our buddy nick the rat with

2930
02:59:27,510 --> 02:59:32,010
episode 415 from the sewer. And
remember we got our nd thank

2931
02:59:32,010 --> 02:59:34,740
yous coming up right now until
next time, remember us at the

2932
02:59:34,740 --> 02:59:39,840
borak.org/na in the morning
everybody a hui Hui and adios

2933
02:59:39,840 --> 02:59:40,770
mofos

2934
02:59:42,120 --> 02:59:46,050
Unknown: Hello, this is de Maria
and this is Sir Mark at a super

2935
02:59:46,050 --> 02:59:49,860
amazing meetup. We are so
thankful for the wonderful tribe

2936
02:59:49,860 --> 02:59:53,670
we have here and especially from
Adam and Tina joining us today.

2937
02:59:53,760 --> 02:59:55,560
Merry Christmas everyone

2938
02:59:55,560 --> 02:59:58,680
Gary from Greenwood and I'm
thankful for obviously my health

2939
02:59:58,710 --> 03:00:02,130
my family, my friends. and no
agenda podcast and friends

2940
03:00:02,130 --> 03:00:02,520
Shannon

2941
03:00:02,520 --> 03:00:04,590
visiting from Fort Wayne is that
climate change in your pocket?

2942
03:00:04,590 --> 03:00:07,680
Are you happy to see us we are
thankful for too many eggs.com

2943
03:00:07,710 --> 03:00:10,740
This Mike from Fort Wayne I'm
thankful for Tito and and have

2944
03:00:10,740 --> 03:00:13,980
him and doing the no agenda
podcast and all the producers

2945
03:00:13,980 --> 03:00:17,460
that make it happen may very
well be the secret to saving

2946
03:00:17,460 --> 03:00:18,060
this nation.

2947
03:00:18,090 --> 03:00:20,850
This is Damon baseball from
Indianapolis and I'm thankful

2948
03:00:20,850 --> 03:00:22,110
for amazeballs This

2949
03:00:22,110 --> 03:00:24,690
is Mike the POLYMATH from
Westfield, Indiana and I'm

2950
03:00:24,690 --> 03:00:28,860
grateful for podcasts check mine
out easy peasy podcast.

2951
03:00:28,890 --> 03:00:32,940
Hi this is Sir Robert and I'm so
grateful for the podcasting 2.0

2952
03:00:32,940 --> 03:00:36,360
project. Thank you Adam has
served PBR streaking thank you

2953
03:00:36,360 --> 03:00:39,330
in the morning John and Adam and
I'm most thankful for the Advent

2954
03:00:39,330 --> 03:00:40,140
season in

2955
03:00:40,140 --> 03:00:44,190
the morning Dame Trinity having
a great time so thankful for all

2956
03:00:44,190 --> 03:00:48,060
the people that showed up and
for served PBR street gang for

2957
03:00:48,060 --> 03:00:49,950
36 years. It was Guzman

2958
03:00:49,950 --> 03:00:52,920
in the Midwest from Branzburg.
Indiana I'm most thankful for no

2959
03:00:52,920 --> 03:00:54,060
agenda nation

2960
03:00:54,090 --> 03:00:56,970
Dame Cindy of the Tito's from
Carmel, Indiana. Thank you for

2961
03:00:56,970 --> 03:00:57,630
your courage.

2962
03:00:57,660 --> 03:01:00,750
Hi Tim John and Adam daughter
from Indianapolis and I am

2963
03:01:00,750 --> 03:01:02,160
thankful for my mother

2964
03:01:02,280 --> 03:01:06,480
five syrup of the maple that's
syrup of the Bible with a K and

2965
03:01:06,480 --> 03:01:11,160
I'm thankful for in the morning,
sir Ted

2966
03:01:11,160 --> 03:01:14,100
from Indianapolis and I am
forever grateful for my partner

2967
03:01:14,100 --> 03:01:17,730
of 40 years my wife named Marina
del of the snickerdoodles who

2968
03:01:17,730 --> 03:01:20,400
wishes she could be here rather
than being at home or recovering

2969
03:01:20,400 --> 03:01:23,490
from knee replacement surgery. I
love you though to be Ryan

2970
03:01:23,490 --> 03:01:27,450
de Blasio from Fishers Indiana.
I am most thankful for my

2971
03:01:27,480 --> 03:01:29,760
laughing wife and two human
resources

2972
03:01:29,790 --> 03:01:33,390
sir Larry here from Columbus,
Ohio and I am thankful for

2973
03:01:33,390 --> 03:01:35,580
Central Ohio meetups going on a
year and a half

2974
03:01:35,610 --> 03:01:39,090
Michelle from Broad Ripple
thankful for my family. We are

2975
03:01:39,090 --> 03:01:40,800
five generation strong

2976
03:01:40,890 --> 03:01:44,340
sir scoops coming up from
Cincinnati on mountain dead I'm

2977
03:01:44,340 --> 03:01:47,940
most thankful for the banter
between two dudes keeping us

2978
03:01:47,940 --> 03:01:51,690
sane for 16 years please pirate
This is douchebag Nate from

2979
03:01:51,690 --> 03:01:54,840
Cincinnati, Ohio on the top of
mountain dead I'm most grateful

2980
03:01:54,840 --> 03:01:58,830
for my partner in crime Baron
scoops and our construction of

2981
03:01:58,830 --> 03:01:59,550
the dead verse

2982
03:01:59,580 --> 03:02:03,660
April Kyle Carmel, Indiana and I
am thankful that we are not

2983
03:02:03,660 --> 03:02:05,940
locked down and we are here
gathered together

2984
03:02:05,970 --> 03:02:08,430
in the morning. This is Dave The
broke air traffic controller.

2985
03:02:08,460 --> 03:02:10,950
I'm most thankful for my job
that I can not only drink party

2986
03:02:10,950 --> 03:02:13,590
and smoke on the weekends but
also while on duty in

2987
03:02:13,590 --> 03:02:16,080
the morning. This is the
anonymous controller from

2988
03:02:16,080 --> 03:02:19,590
Franklin, Indiana and I am also
thankful for my job as an air

2989
03:02:19,590 --> 03:02:21,720
traffic controller. Now let's
get these drinks going. I gotta

2990
03:02:21,720 --> 03:02:24,780
be at work by 10 This is John
John Smith cordial Indiana I am

2991
03:02:24,780 --> 03:02:27,750
thankful for my human resource
Desmond who's 21 year old and

2992
03:02:27,750 --> 03:02:31,200
two days this is Jared from
Greenwood and this Wednesday I

2993
03:02:31,200 --> 03:02:34,440
have dinner with a foam finger
executive. This is Sir Brian

2994
03:02:34,440 --> 03:02:38,100
with an AI from Austin, Texas
and I am thankful for my AI and

2995
03:02:38,100 --> 03:02:41,460
generated girlfriend. Hi I'm
Jane Karen and I'm so Bradley

2996
03:02:41,460 --> 03:02:44,670
from the Lagrange Kentucky we're
thankful for each other and for

2997
03:02:44,670 --> 03:02:46,740
the best Destiny universe. This

2998
03:02:46,740 --> 03:02:48,480
was Raymond H from hold
Michigan.

2999
03:02:48,510 --> 03:02:49,320
Glad to be down here.

3000
03:02:49,320 --> 03:02:52,530
And indeed I am thankful that I
have not had to eat the bugs

3001
03:02:52,560 --> 03:02:53,040
yet.

3002
03:02:53,070 --> 03:02:56,520
John from Vincennes, Indiana and
I'm grateful for no agenda.

3003
03:02:56,550 --> 03:02:59,580
Hello I'm Joshua kromm from
Carmel, Indiana and I'm most

3004
03:02:59,580 --> 03:03:00,990
thankful for my sobriety

3005
03:03:01,110 --> 03:03:03,690
anarcho Daniel from
Indianapolis, Indiana. I'm most

3006
03:03:03,690 --> 03:03:05,820
grateful for my smokin hot wife,
Riley

3007
03:03:05,820 --> 03:03:09,090
stone, Indianapolis, Indiana and
I'm most grateful for my

3008
03:03:09,090 --> 03:03:09,660
parents.

3009
03:03:09,690 --> 03:03:12,960
I'm Reagan I'm from Indianapolis
and I'm most grateful for my

3010
03:03:12,960 --> 03:03:14,160
siblings and my parents.

3011
03:03:14,190 --> 03:03:17,340
My name is Keith stone from
Indianapolis and I'm thankful

3012
03:03:17,340 --> 03:03:20,460
for my family. My name is Macy
I'm from Indianapolis and I'm

3013
03:03:20,460 --> 03:03:23,970
thankful for Christmas school
curd bottler or single scholar

3014
03:03:23,970 --> 03:03:27,480
from South Bend Indiana grateful
my parents are still alive. Hi,

3015
03:03:27,480 --> 03:03:30,120
I'm Chris Keller and from
Streamwood, Illinois, and I'm

3016
03:03:30,120 --> 03:03:33,840
most grateful for my health my
family and having the

3017
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:36,570
opportunity to be retired and
enjoy

3018
03:03:36,570 --> 03:03:38,790
it in the morning. My name is
Leisha. I'm from Carmel,

3019
03:03:38,790 --> 03:03:42,660
Indiana, and I am most thankful
for my job my boyfriend and just

3020
03:03:42,660 --> 03:03:43,950
being a good place in life

3021
03:03:43,980 --> 03:03:47,880
sir Ohio blood from now Ohio and
I'm thankful for Adam and Tina

3022
03:03:47,940 --> 03:03:48,120
and

3023
03:03:48,120 --> 03:03:52,350
I'm the blog Sheila Rebecca man
so playdough from Ohio also and

3024
03:03:52,350 --> 03:03:53,820
I'm thankful for my faith and

3025
03:03:53,820 --> 03:03:55,170
my family. Hello, this

3026
03:03:55,170 --> 03:03:56,460
is Sir Mikey boss,

3027
03:03:56,460 --> 03:03:59,790
the Irish Catholic center in
town from Evansville. I am most

3028
03:03:59,790 --> 03:04:04,080
grateful for my reversion to the
faith and 2017 and for being

3029
03:04:04,080 --> 03:04:06,120
here among the no agenda tribe.

3030
03:04:06,150 --> 03:04:07,560
I'm Sean. I'm Carrie.

3031
03:04:07,590 --> 03:04:10,200
We're from Avon, Indiana, and
we're thankful for being here.

3032
03:04:10,200 --> 03:04:10,650
Hi,

3033
03:04:10,680 --> 03:04:14,400
I'm Karen and I'm from the
region aka St. John Indiana and

3034
03:04:14,400 --> 03:04:17,700
I'm thankful for the hobby the
family and the smarts to know

3035
03:04:17,700 --> 03:04:18,720
when to resist

3036
03:04:18,720 --> 03:04:22,500
or Jake Madison Indiana most
thankful for SPECO sir Trent

3037
03:04:22,500 --> 03:04:25,620
from Zionsville Indiana and I'm
most thankful for six fingered

3038
03:04:25,620 --> 03:04:29,370
AI women John from Bloomington
thankful that Bitcoin isn't

3039
03:04:29,370 --> 03:04:33,330
quite to 200,000 because Adam is
still podcasting. Paul O'Connor

3040
03:04:33,330 --> 03:04:36,690
from Bloomington Indiana
thankful to have all you guys

3041
03:04:36,720 --> 03:04:37,800
with me. Hey, this

3042
03:04:37,800 --> 03:04:41,520
is Kristen from Bloomington and
I am thankful for carbon credits

3043
03:04:41,520 --> 03:04:44,760
my family and the best podcast
in the universe. This

3044
03:04:44,760 --> 03:04:47,460
is Joe driver says student the
quarter from Zionsville and I'm

3045
03:04:47,460 --> 03:04:49,350
thankful for my smokin hot wife
Nicole

3046
03:04:49,380 --> 03:04:51,300
Brittany Shavers Zionsville,
Indiana

3047
03:04:51,330 --> 03:04:54,990
I am also thankful for Joe's
smokin hot wife Nicole. Hey,

3048
03:04:54,990 --> 03:04:58,170
this is Connor slush neroca from
Arcadia, Indiana. I'd say what

3049
03:04:58,170 --> 03:05:01,350
I'm most grateful for would be
my family. both the natural and

3050
03:05:01,350 --> 03:05:03,210
the no agenda family. This is
Kyle

3051
03:05:03,210 --> 03:05:06,240
from Zionsville, Indiana. I'm
grateful for my amazing parents

3052
03:05:06,240 --> 03:05:08,580
who follow me and my wife all
the way to Zionsville from

3053
03:05:08,580 --> 03:05:09,030
Florida.

3054
03:05:09,060 --> 03:05:11,790
I'm Steve shaver. I'm from
Zionsville, Indiana and I'm

3055
03:05:11,790 --> 03:05:15,540
thankful for two friends that
have opened up and independent

3056
03:05:15,540 --> 03:05:18,450
health surgery center that are
breaking the mold. I'm Nicole

3057
03:05:18,450 --> 03:05:22,290
Molinero from Zionsville,
Indiana and I'm thankful for God

3058
03:05:22,290 --> 03:05:23,760
and critical thinkers

3059
03:05:23,790 --> 03:05:26,460
in the morning. I'm Sam from
Paris, France, and I'm most

3060
03:05:26,460 --> 03:05:29,580
grateful for all my friends here
in Indianapolis. This is Sir

3061
03:05:29,580 --> 03:05:33,120
becoming heroic from shareable
Indiana and I'm thankful that I

3062
03:05:33,120 --> 03:05:35,910
never had to partake in the jab.
Hi,

3063
03:05:35,910 --> 03:05:38,130
I'm Brett from Carmel and I'm
most thankful for my

3064
03:05:38,130 --> 03:05:41,820
relationship with Jesus Christ.
This is Sir spooky from Chicago,

3065
03:05:41,820 --> 03:05:42,390
Illinois.

3066
03:05:42,420 --> 03:05:43,800
I am most thankful for

3067
03:05:43,800 --> 03:05:47,340
all of the caretakers out there.
My name is Rory from Detroit and

3068
03:05:47,340 --> 03:05:51,090
this Christmas season I'm most
thankful for long live family

3069
03:05:51,090 --> 03:05:53,790
members and long friendships.
Andrea

3070
03:05:53,790 --> 03:05:57,390
diazo from Fishers Indiana here
with my smoking hot husband and

3071
03:05:57,390 --> 03:05:59,730
I am thankful for him and my two
human resources.

3072
03:05:59,760 --> 03:06:03,000
This is Anthony seven vike out
of Hamilton from Westfield,

3073
03:06:03,000 --> 03:06:06,900
Indiana and I am most grateful
for our Lord and Savior Jesus

3074
03:06:06,900 --> 03:06:10,050
Christ sir Craig of the dark
Boone from Westfield, Indiana.

3075
03:06:10,080 --> 03:06:12,720
I am most thankful for my smokin
hot wife. Hi, this

3076
03:06:12,720 --> 03:06:16,320
is Dame Amy of the shining sun
from Westfield, Indiana and I'm

3077
03:06:16,320 --> 03:06:18,150
most grateful for my smokin hot

3078
03:06:18,150 --> 03:06:21,420
husband. Hello, this is Walter
Olinsky and this year I'm

3079
03:06:21,420 --> 03:06:25,200
thankful for the birth of my
Lord and Savior Victoria Nuland.

3080
03:06:35,340 --> 03:06:42,360
MOPO boruch.org/in What the hell
is that?