1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,350 John C Dvorak: I buy a bar a month. 2 00:00:01,650 --> 00:00:03,870 Unknown: Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 3 00:00:04,410 --> 00:00:07,470 Adam Curry: October 12 2023 This Year Award winning give a nation 4 00:00:07,470 --> 00:00:10,350 media assassination episode 1598. 5 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:12,330 Unknown: This is no agenda, 6 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:16,560 Adam Curry: penetrating the fog of war and broadcasting live 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,830 from the heart of the country near FEMA Region number six in 8 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:21,630 the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 9 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,090 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where today's 10 00:00:24,090 --> 00:00:26,820 theme is babies. I'm John C. Dvorak. 11 00:00:28,590 --> 00:00:36,120 Adam Curry: Kill. My goodness, we're just going back in time. 12 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:40,500 Everything to read rerun. It's a total rerun. I might as well I 13 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:42,450 got the clips, I might as well run them. They're all pretty 14 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:44,130 short. Let's just go right for it. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,200 John C Dvorak: Well, before you do that, I have a three clip set 16 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:55,500 disparate disparate clips that I'd like to run first. Oh, no, 17 00:00:55,530 --> 00:00:56,880 no, dog. No, 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,640 Adam Curry: Phoebe says. Daddy slipped these clips. Phoebe. All 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,030 right. 20 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:05,190 John C Dvorak: Dose got a great bark. 21 00:01:06,450 --> 00:01:08,550 Adam Curry: I should run it through the through the next 22 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:11,160 time she does that. I'll run it through the sound effects. Well, 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,120 you should be recording 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,030 John C Dvorak: it up. There's nothing a dog finds more 25 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:17,970 annoying than playing dog barks back to them. 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,390 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. I'm sure this will drive the dog crazy. 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,300 All right. Well, well, you I mean, this is what we call 28 00:01:24,330 --> 00:01:26,670 John C Dvorak: this is just theory. This reason is because 29 00:01:26,670 --> 00:01:30,030 this is involving Chris Cuomo. It's what we call an audible. 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,570 And here we go. This is distarch. With this clip, which 31 00:01:33,570 --> 00:01:38,760 is a Hannity show. He brings it some Trumps to John, and it 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,240 begins with this. Joining us now. former national security 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,580 adviser Robert O'Brien is with us. When Bibi Netanyahu says 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,780 that they will strike with a force that will be remembered 35 00:01:51,780 --> 00:01:55,950 for generations. I've known Prime Minister Netanyahu now for 36 00:01:55,980 --> 00:02:01,530 almost three decades. I'm pretty much 100% certain he means what 37 00:02:01,530 --> 00:02:05,010 he says. He says the Middle East will be reconfigured as a result 38 00:02:05,010 --> 00:02:10,620 of this, you know, evil attack on on their homeland. I believe 39 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:11,340 he means it. 40 00:02:11,370 --> 00:02:14,490 Unknown: What are your thoughts? Well, I know Bibi will also shot 41 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:17,430 and I think he means what he says here and like he's got no 42 00:02:17,430 --> 00:02:20,400 choice. I mean, if anyone who wants to know that whether evil 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,830 exists in the world, just need to look at the top of your 44 00:02:22,830 --> 00:02:26,430 monologue and hear about the babies being killed. I mean, 45 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:30,120 what kind of person goes house to house and beheads babies and 46 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:33,780 these aren't civilians who were killed collaterally in a in a 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,260 military attack. These were civilians who are wanted they 48 00:02:37,260 --> 00:02:39,900 slaughtered? This isn't war This is barbarism? 49 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:42,810 Adam Curry: I think that's the new thing to be able to say now 50 00:02:42,810 --> 00:02:45,510 if you're on television, it's like I know BB well. 51 00:02:46,050 --> 00:02:47,310 John C Dvorak: I know BP Well. I 52 00:02:47,310 --> 00:02:50,550 Adam Curry: know BB. I know. Yeah, baby. You met baby. 53 00:02:50,970 --> 00:02:55,290 John C Dvorak: Yeah, baby new horse with the actress. Okay. 54 00:02:55,890 --> 00:02:58,410 All right. Next up and you're desperate Clint. Now we go to 55 00:02:58,410 --> 00:03:00,750 Cuomo calling out Hamas. 56 00:03:00,810 --> 00:03:03,540 Unknown: Nobody wants to see pictures of mutilated children. 57 00:03:03,660 --> 00:03:04,650 I promise you that 58 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:06,630 Adam Curry: well, that we actually would like to see it 59 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:11,340 just to know that it's real. Yeah, because it's only the news 60 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:11,640 guys 61 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:14,070 John C Dvorak: real pictures, of course, not photoshopped ones. 62 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:14,340 But 63 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Unknown: however, the reality should not be shied away, 64 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:22,050 because it's what's driving the understanding of this situation. 65 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:26,640 People in America especially have a misguided connection 66 00:03:26,910 --> 00:03:30,630 between the plight of Palestinians, which is real, the 67 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:33,870 suffering there, which is real and going on right now. People 68 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:38,550 are dying in Gaza because of Israel's necessary retaliation. 69 00:03:38,820 --> 00:03:41,760 I'm sure kids are involved there too. In essence, you're involved 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,500 there too. You should be seeing the pictures to drive the 71 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:51,390 intensity of the purpose here. And we have to remember that our 72 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:56,280 urgency is on those who were captured, not hostages, not 73 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,260 hostages. hostages are people who are taken for security. And 74 00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:04,770 they are negotiated. These people were captured. They're 75 00:04:04,770 --> 00:04:08,520 being mutilated. They're being brutalized in ways that very few 76 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,800 people have seen in this region in a long, long time. And 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,630 remember, it is on Hamas, to counteract what I just said, it 78 00:04:18,630 --> 00:04:22,530 is on Hamas to come forward and say, No, we're holding them 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,830 humanely, because we want protection against what Israel 80 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:28,320 is doing because we want to negotiate because we want to be 81 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,130 taken seriously. This is on Hamas, Hamas loves to talk 82 00:04:32,130 --> 00:04:35,460 they're putting out videos all over the internet of complete 83 00:04:35,700 --> 00:04:40,200 barbarism and savagery. They have said Not one word about 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,670 treating these people as human beings. And they have given us 85 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:47,130 all the evidence and understanding that they are 86 00:04:47,130 --> 00:04:49,740 treating them worse than dogs. 87 00:04:50,670 --> 00:04:53,580 Adam Curry: Okay, yes, let's spin people up to school. 88 00:04:53,580 --> 00:04:56,700 John C Dvorak: You know, it took me all of five minutes to find 89 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:01,230 out that Hamas had said plenty I guess He didn't have the time to 90 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:03,990 do it because he's flying over there wants to hang out. 91 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:06,630 Adam Curry: He's played this year in the region cromoz in the 92 00:05:06,630 --> 00:05:07,620 region. Yes, he 93 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:09,390 John C Dvorak: went there because it's in the region 94 00:05:09,390 --> 00:05:09,720 thing. 95 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:11,520 Adam Curry: It's called in the region. Yeah, he's 96 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,210 John C Dvorak: in the region. He is in Israel, but it's Northern 97 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:15,750 Israel, it 98 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:16,770 Adam Curry: seems to be in the region. 99 00:05:17,580 --> 00:05:20,100 John C Dvorak: So region is the region. So here's Hamas 100 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:21,870 Palestinian denials, 101 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:25,140 Unknown: because I'm brigades has broadcast a video that shows 102 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:28,560 the release of three captives that the video shows an Israeli 103 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,520 woman and two children near the holiday kibbutz near Gaza. They 104 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,950 were said to have been released shortly after being captured by 105 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:39,000 Hamas on Saturday. Hamas sources say that video refutes what they 106 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,410 called false Israeli allegations that Hamas fighters killed women 107 00:05:43,410 --> 00:05:47,640 and children are the video follows an earlier statements by 108 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,330 the group that said, Some Western media outlets continue 109 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:54,900 to spread Zionist slander and lies about our Palestinian 110 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:58,410 people and their resistance, which falsely and slanderously 111 00:05:58,410 --> 00:06:01,440 promoted allegations that members of the Palestinian 112 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,760 resistance, beheaded children and assaulted women without any 113 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,450 evidence to support their lives and claims Hamas strongly 114 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:11,940 condemns the baseless allegations 115 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,970 Adam Curry: and that's on Al Jazeera so that's that's more 116 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:19,740 more official than it would be on on x which is probably all 117 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:22,110 Cuomo is looking at. We want everybody to 118 00:06:22,110 --> 00:06:23,970 John C Dvorak: know what Cohen was looking at took me five 119 00:06:23,970 --> 00:06:27,150 minutes to find that clip. And this is an Hamas had made these 120 00:06:27,150 --> 00:06:30,840 statements earlier way before he came off and you act in the act. 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:37,410 But this is the problem you have is that our media is just not 122 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:41,610 good. No, and if you're right, yes, you're right. And if you 123 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:44,610 listen to the I mean, I didn't clip it because I got too many 124 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:47,820 clips already and this is cut you can 125 00:06:48,210 --> 00:06:51,630 Adam Curry: well let me let me jump into into some beheaded 126 00:06:51,630 --> 00:06:52,350 baby clips. 127 00:06:54,750 --> 00:07:00,480 John C Dvorak: I want to mention one thing to listen to judge 128 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,350 Jeanine and these others on the five judge Jeanine is back to 129 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:07,290 her bomb them bomb them bomb them again, don't really it's 130 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,830 it's fascinating. I didn't clip it. I maybe I'll clip it for 131 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:13,620 Sunday, but she's just off the rails. 132 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,130 Adam Curry: And but but is she about bombing? Because back in 133 00:07:17,130 --> 00:07:18,570 the day, that was 134 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:21,930 John C Dvorak: the Qaeda. Yes, 135 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:25,950 Unknown: bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. 136 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,330 John C Dvorak: Now, she made the statement. And again, like I 137 00:07:30,330 --> 00:07:33,060 said, I got too many clips already. But I'll tell you what 138 00:07:33,060 --> 00:07:35,460 she said. She said they're coming here. 139 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,750 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Okay. Let me that's you're moving too 140 00:07:39,750 --> 00:07:45,720 fast. First, we got to know that the bait the beheaded baby 141 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:53,460 story. Which has apparently already been debunked by the 142 00:07:53,460 --> 00:07:56,910 journalist who wrote about it who said I didn't really write 143 00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:00,960 about I want to clarify, I did not tweet, which is by the way, 144 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,090 what journalism are we performing here? 145 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Unknown: Look at a journalism is this I did not 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,470 Adam Curry: tweet 40 babies had been beheaded. I tweeted that 147 00:08:07,470 --> 00:08:09,930 form media had been told women and children had been 148 00:08:09,930 --> 00:08:12,420 decapitated. But we had not been shown bodies, which was my 149 00:08:12,420 --> 00:08:15,360 response to reports which had gone viral about the 40 babies. 150 00:08:15,780 --> 00:08:18,660 Also this number 40 is interesting. I realized the way 151 00:08:18,660 --> 00:08:22,740 my talk was, I don't know. 40 days. 40 Nights. It's all Oh, 152 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:25,860 John C Dvorak: Arabian Nights. Yeah. 153 00:08:25,980 --> 00:08:29,130 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Which is, I realized, I realized the way 154 00:08:29,130 --> 00:08:31,530 my tweet was written was too short to explain the full 155 00:08:31,530 --> 00:08:35,550 context. So I deleted it. All right now, but this this went 156 00:08:35,550 --> 00:08:39,390 quite viral. Of course. I mean, we've seen this end of show make 157 00:08:39,390 --> 00:08:42,630 sure even here. Some historical examples we 158 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:45,420 John C Dvorak: have one of the Indus show mixes is dynamite. We 159 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:45,630 had the 160 00:08:45,630 --> 00:08:48,240 Adam Curry: babies on Bay Bay and nets we had the babies and 161 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,940 incubators that they threw on the floor. And this is just a 162 00:08:50,940 --> 00:08:56,100 new twist. This is This is Nicole Zedeck. From by the way, 163 00:08:56,490 --> 00:08:58,260 John C Dvorak: the babies I'm paying this I should go we 164 00:08:58,260 --> 00:09:00,510 should mention this because I've never mentioned the show before 165 00:09:00,510 --> 00:09:05,220 but when you study world history, there's this was the 166 00:09:05,220 --> 00:09:09,720 same baby stories that were told during the during the Vikings 167 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,450 invasions of northern Europe. It was the day we're told that the 168 00:09:15,450 --> 00:09:18,360 Vikings came in and grabbed the babies and then threw them in 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,010 the air and then caught them with their 170 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:22,890 Adam Curry: horns their horns, their horns on their on their 171 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,850 John C Dvorak: doors, but the spears they spear them. The 172 00:09:26,850 --> 00:09:29,730 babies the babies flying through the air. So this is not a new 173 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,510 No, 174 00:09:30,540 --> 00:09:33,540 Adam Curry: it's late. It's a true and tried tactic which 175 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:37,770 works incredibly well. So here's the same Nicole Zedek who's who 176 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,510 tweeted X she slashed. Soldiers told me they believe 40 Babies 177 00:09:42,510 --> 00:09:44,940 slashed children were killed. The exact death toll is still 178 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:47,130 unknown as the military continues to go house to house 179 00:09:47,250 --> 00:09:51,180 and find more Israeli casualties. I 24 News. So Here's 180 00:09:51,180 --> 00:09:52,320 her report, 181 00:09:52,350 --> 00:09:55,620 Unknown: David, it's hard to even explain exactly just the 182 00:09:55,830 --> 00:09:59,790 mass casualties that happened right here. In fact, the Israeli 183 00:09:59,790 --> 00:10:01,800 Miller Jury says they still don't have a clear number. But 184 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,960 I'm talking to some of the soldiers and they say what 185 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,230 they've witnessed as they've been walking through these 186 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,340 different houses, these different communities, babies, 187 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,450 their heads caught off. That's what they said, done down, 188 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,310 families completely gunned down in their beds. You can see some 189 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:23,460 of these soldiers right now comforting each other. Many of 190 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:26,940 them reserves who jumped into action, leaving their own 191 00:10:26,940 --> 00:10:31,290 families behind as well. Not knowing the sheer horror that 192 00:10:31,290 --> 00:10:35,190 they were about to come to. They say they've never experienced 193 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:37,800 anything like this. This is nothing that anyone could have 194 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,880 even imagined. When you're walking through here, baby cribs 195 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:42,840 thrown to the side. 196 00:10:44,490 --> 00:10:47,760 Adam Curry: There you go. So she actually didn't say that she had 197 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,430 seen it herself. It's what soldiers told her. But that was 198 00:10:50,430 --> 00:10:54,180 enough. That was enough. And it doesn't matter what Nicole's ex 199 00:10:54,180 --> 00:10:57,360 says. Because our President saw evidence proof he saw it with 200 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,260 his own eyes 201 00:10:58,380 --> 00:11:00,480 Unknown: just came to basically I really mean it from the bottom 202 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,390 of my heart. I give him my word as a Biden. Thank you. There you 203 00:11:03,390 --> 00:11:03,810 go. 204 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,310 Thank you for the intensity of your support. It matters. It 205 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:14,970 matters in Americans see what's happening. I have been doing 206 00:11:14,970 --> 00:11:20,580 this a long time. I never really thought that I would see 207 00:11:20,610 --> 00:11:25,680 confirmed pictures of terrorist behavior 208 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:29,070 Adam Curry: children. So we saw it with his own eyes confirmed. 209 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,940 It's confirmed people. And then he he goes into his tip when he 210 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:34,440 lies. He always goes into this. 211 00:11:34,770 --> 00:11:37,890 Unknown: I never saw it ever. Anyway. 212 00:11:38,970 --> 00:11:43,140 Adam Curry: Anyway, anyway, anyway, not to get the actual 213 00:11:43,140 --> 00:11:48,210 report that you will probably, uh, maybe maybe the five we'll 214 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:53,490 talk about it. But the White House jumped into into immediate 215 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:57,960 crisis mode, because Oh, no, no, no, he didn't quite mean that. 216 00:11:57,990 --> 00:12:00,120 Unknown: Now. We have some latest updates coming in from 217 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,330 the US a White House spokesperson has given an 218 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:06,600 official clarification, as reported by US media, that 219 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,630 neither President Joe Biden nor the White House Administration 220 00:12:09,630 --> 00:12:12,750 has seen any pictures or verified any reports of children 221 00:12:12,750 --> 00:12:16,500 beheaded by Hamas. Earlier during a roundtable with leaders 222 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:19,440 from the Jewish community. Biden had mentioned seeing the 223 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,070 confirmed pictures of militants beheading children. The official 224 00:12:23,070 --> 00:12:26,310 clarified though, that the President's remarks were quote, 225 00:12:26,340 --> 00:12:29,970 unquote, referring to public comments from media outlets and 226 00:12:29,970 --> 00:12:31,050 Israeli officials. 227 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:36,270 Adam Curry: Okay. All right, please. He's an old, old man, he 228 00:12:36,270 --> 00:12:38,910 senile, so don't you get it? And at this point, I think the 229 00:12:38,910 --> 00:12:41,550 international press is like, yeah, we get it. Okay. Oh, you 230 00:12:41,550 --> 00:12:44,550 made a mistake. Very, very, very, very bad. 231 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:50,490 John C Dvorak: Mistake. I saw it with my own eyes firmed 232 00:12:51,210 --> 00:12:52,830 confirmed, confirmed. 233 00:12:53,100 --> 00:12:59,100 Adam Curry: So this now. And let me just as predicted, we got 234 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:04,740 some emails, and I just want to reiterate that we're not I mean, 235 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:09,060 we don't really care one way or the other, you know, about this 236 00:13:09,060 --> 00:13:14,190 particular stuff. You know, it's it's fun to fun to debunk it and 237 00:13:14,190 --> 00:13:18,240 take a you know, a helicopter view. But this is not about who 238 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,410 did what to whom, what we're trained to do is to look at how 239 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,860 everybody is being spun up and programmed against each other. 240 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:29,640 In fact, arguing against each other is part of the point. 241 00:13:29,970 --> 00:13:33,660 Distraction, which is beautiful, because we don't hear about 242 00:13:33,660 --> 00:13:36,300 Hunter don't hear about him anymore. No hunters out of the 243 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:39,900 news. Look at the Gaza border, not your border. We got a war 244 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:42,660 president now as good for elections. You never want to 245 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:47,490 change a winning team. You know, we've been spun up to believe 246 00:13:47,490 --> 00:13:51,180 that tomorrow October the 13th attacks in America attacks in 247 00:13:51,180 --> 00:13:53,100 America. It's gonna happen everywhere. This is where Judge 248 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:55,890 Jeanine gets it. She's probably on the same hill country, Lady 249 00:13:55,890 --> 00:14:00,270 text, text tree that I've been seeing. But really it's all 250 00:14:00,270 --> 00:14:06,630 recall. Then even just saying 911 That it doesn't matter who 251 00:14:06,630 --> 00:14:11,310 you are even. Even the crackpot in the buzzkill have oh, we get 252 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:13,680 you know, you get images, you know where you were at that 253 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:20,760 moment? 911 911 911 This is the Israel's 911 And so that means a 254 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,020 plan. What what? 255 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:26,040 John C Dvorak: Why is it January 6 Worse than 911 256 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,380 Adam Curry: It was funny the last time and not 257 00:14:29,190 --> 00:14:32,670 John C Dvorak: just my material once in a while. You just 258 00:14:32,670 --> 00:14:38,100 Adam Curry: spiking the ball because it was genius. So it's 259 00:14:38,130 --> 00:14:46,410 so the plan unfolds and in there and reminder. After 911 on 911 260 00:14:46,410 --> 00:14:49,290 Osama bin Laden Osama bin Laden Osama bin Laden is Osama bin 261 00:14:49,290 --> 00:14:52,680 Laden. Afghanistan Of course. I mean no Iraq Iraq aluminum 262 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,960 tubes, yellowcake The New York Times lied. The government lie 263 00:14:57,990 --> 00:15:01,980 to get everyone agrees, I think Now that we were lied to, to get 264 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:07,110 us into, of into Iraq, which is not where Osama came from, but 265 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:10,560 of course, it was a genius liquidity event of some $20 266 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,180 trillion, I think, 267 00:15:12,390 --> 00:15:15,450 John C Dvorak: over 20 plus years lot. Yeah, 20 trillion. 268 00:15:15,450 --> 00:15:15,630 But 269 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Adam Curry: I think if you look it up, it may even be more than 270 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,530 20 trillion. I know. Okay, I'll consult the book of knowledge 271 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:27,360 while we listen to the Israeli ambassador to the UK, because 272 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 it's not just 911 Oh, no, 273 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:33,060 Unknown: this is our obligation, our first obligation to fight 274 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:37,110 back and to make sure Hamas will never have the ability to act 275 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:38,220 against Israelis, 276 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,520 Ambassador to totally How are you at responding to the fact 277 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,360 that this is really creating a whole host of tensions around 278 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,410 the world that have become sort of ethnically focused on both 279 00:15:49,410 --> 00:15:53,220 sides? It really has erupted debates and protests and anger 280 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:56,340 on both sides. How would you like to angle the conversation 281 00:15:56,340 --> 00:15:59,220 to be able to foster something more productive? 282 00:15:59,370 --> 00:16:03,390 I think that this is time to fight and to descend the people 283 00:16:03,390 --> 00:16:09,840 of Israel. And I think whoever saw the fact that 1000 Israelis 284 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,800 were killed in cold blood cannot speak now about both sides. 285 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,460 There is one side here, who's the side that wants freedom, 286 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:21,420 democracy, cares about human rights, cares about people's 287 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:24,420 life, which is the Israeli side, and there is the other side, 288 00:16:24,420 --> 00:16:28,590 this is good versus evil, we need to fight it. It's a terror 289 00:16:28,590 --> 00:16:32,100 organization recognized in the US and in the UK. And you know, 290 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:36,210 many people are comparing to 911. And I heard many people 291 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:39,960 that are making the equivalent numbers with the proportion when 292 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,710 you think about Israel as a tiny country, just 9 million people 293 00:16:43,770 --> 00:16:48,000 to actually 10 times of 911. This is the time to support 294 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,430 Israel, the international community should understand. 295 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Adam Curry: It's 10 times 911. And then this comparison of 296 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,050 capita no but that came out right away Sir Brian of London, 297 00:16:58,140 --> 00:17:02,250 he immediately it was put into his head and I'm not disputing 298 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,400 that this isn't you know that this is the same vibe because 299 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,700 yeah, in in Israel, everybody knows everybody. They're all 300 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:13,710 related. They as by their own admission, but the 911 meme, 301 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:16,620 that's a good one. We got to play that up. Let's bring in 302 00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:20,190 James Stavridis. Admiral Joining 303 00:17:20,190 --> 00:17:22,980 John C Dvorak: us now with more is former Supreme Allied 304 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:23,910 Commander of NATO 305 00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:26,760 Adam Curry: Supreme Allied Commander, I'm sorry, Admiral, 306 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,440 James got his honorifics, right? 307 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:33,900 John C Dvorak: Staff Rita's know where to start here. Admiral. It 308 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:35,070 take hostages, it's the 309 00:17:35,070 --> 00:17:41,430 Adam Curry: same. It's exactly the same tone as 911. They have 310 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:45,750 the the news media, which flips right into it, no problem. And 311 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:48,570 it's it's normal, because they've been told 10 times worse 312 00:17:48,570 --> 00:17:49,320 than 911. Oh, 313 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:52,560 John C Dvorak: you bring them back to Gaza. And you put them 314 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,410 in civilian areas, and you surround yourself with 315 00:17:55,410 --> 00:18:00,090 civilians, and then you threaten Israelis. If there's any, any 316 00:18:00,090 --> 00:18:02,400 bombing where civilians are injured, you start executing 317 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,740 hostages, it's what is that you know who's supposed to do when 318 00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:08,880 you hear something like that? 319 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,510 Unknown: Well, you start by calling all of this what it is, 320 00:18:12,540 --> 00:18:16,680 which is terrorism. These are acts of terror. This is akin to 321 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,060 the 911 attack. And just a lot of people hear some of these 322 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:24,390 numbers. You know, there have been hundreds of Israelis killed 323 00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:29,070 and there are 150 hostages. To put that in context. Joe, for an 324 00:18:29,070 --> 00:18:34,620 American, you have to do the math of the population adjust. 325 00:18:34,740 --> 00:18:39,300 Here we go. If you have the math, for example, 1000 Israelis 326 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:42,090 killed, I think it would be well north of that. Ultimately, 327 00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:47,280 that's like 35,000 Americans killed on an equivalent 911 day. 328 00:18:47,490 --> 00:18:51,540 And by the way on 911. There weren't hostages. So let's say 329 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:55,290 there are 100 hostages that would be 911 in the United 330 00:18:55,290 --> 00:18:59,220 States with 3500 hostages. So you're right. 331 00:18:59,429 --> 00:19:01,259 John C Dvorak: That someone yesterday said it was like 332 00:19:01,259 --> 00:19:03,989 Nagasaki, I think it was Jonathan Greenblatt on another 333 00:19:03,989 --> 00:19:07,439 network. It wasn't like 911 It was almost like if you do the 334 00:19:07,439 --> 00:19:07,889 math, 335 00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:10,529 Adam Curry: yeah. Do the math. Okay. So the you know, 336 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,790 John C Dvorak: okay, I want to say a couple of things. First of 337 00:19:14,790 --> 00:19:19,650 all the 911 analogies bad. That was four guys, they took this 338 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,980 store some planes and blew up pretty much took out a building 339 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,730 one shot do they want people industries, they weren't rating 340 00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:31,140 a dance party and shooting up the day did I mean, there was 341 00:19:31,140 --> 00:19:35,700 that was a massacre where the 260 kids were killed. It's it 342 00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:38,820 seems more like a extended version of you know, that 343 00:19:38,820 --> 00:19:41,910 shooter in Las Vegas where they just started picking off poor 344 00:19:42,270 --> 00:19:46,290 innocents that were at a dance, country and western dance. The 345 00:19:46,290 --> 00:19:49,800 911 thing just eludes me right now is really 346 00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:52,950 Adam Curry: an illusion seriously, 347 00:19:53,220 --> 00:19:55,530 John C Dvorak: there's absolutely so little to do with 348 00:19:55,530 --> 00:20:00,000 911 It's just the use of the term and it the whole thing by 349 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,840 bothers me it's not as though a number of people weren't killed. 350 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,220 And that's bad enough, John, why are we going through the massive 351 00:20:08,220 --> 00:20:13,110 trouble of equating it to this and that and making stuff up and 352 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:15,360 making it worse than it already is? 353 00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:18,510 Adam Curry: Because it is. It's beyond me what's not beyond me 354 00:20:18,510 --> 00:20:23,070 and all it's clear as day. By the way, Brown University says 355 00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:27,150 the cost of the 20 year war was $8 trillion. Okay, 8 trillion. 356 00:20:28,770 --> 00:20:32,760 Now, the whole point is playbook. That's the whole 357 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,030 point. We got to do it all over again, we know where it leads. 358 00:20:36,030 --> 00:20:39,870 We know it leads to Iran. That's that's it's obvious that's 359 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:42,840 that's always been in play. It'll probably go first to 360 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,980 Hezbollah. And we have which would be Lebanon, and we have to 361 00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:51,990 get everyone into that mode. 911 911 We need money. We need 362 00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:54,930 money, money, money, money, money, and we have a bad guy. We 363 00:20:54,930 --> 00:20:59,040 have an Osama bin Laden. It is so unbelievably close to the 364 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,710 original 911 story. It's crazy. 365 00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:06,420 Unknown: This is one of the only known photos of Muhammad if it 366 00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:11,280 dates from 1989 when he was 24 years old years before he became 367 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:16,080 a massive military mastermind. He lives in hiding in Gaza. His 368 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,130 face hasn't been seen publicly in years. But according to 369 00:21:20,130 --> 00:21:25,050 Israeli reports, he's been heard speaking about the weekend 370 00:21:25,050 --> 00:21:26,820 attacks on Israel in this video 371 00:21:26,820 --> 00:21:30,030 Adam Curry: remember when we had we only had cave audio from 372 00:21:30,030 --> 00:21:33,690 Osama bin Laden? Remember that? Oh, yes, we have audio from him 373 00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:37,440 in the cave, giving the instructions which had no idea 374 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,830 what he was saying, Oh, we only have audio of Muhammad if he'd 375 00:21:40,830 --> 00:21:41,760 seen publicly 376 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,240 Unknown: in years. But according to Israeli reports he's been 377 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,160 heard and heard speaking about the weekend attacks on Israel in 378 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,620 this video released by Hamas has led her masters military wing 379 00:21:55,620 --> 00:22:00,330 the Alka some brigades for two decades, as seen in this 2003 380 00:22:00,330 --> 00:22:04,200 report by French TV network false television he was already 381 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:04,800 in hiding. 382 00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:11,280 Why? We the fighters of the Alka Sombra gates confirmed there 383 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,310 will be no negotiations with Israel or the US whether 384 00:22:15,330 --> 00:22:18,600 even before he commanded the brigades de F led a wave of 385 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,800 suicide bombings that killed dozens of Israelis than under 386 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,850 his leadership, Mr. switched its primary tactic to cross border 387 00:22:26,850 --> 00:22:31,140 raucous attacks from Gaza. ATF has escalated these 388 00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:35,490 indiscriminate attacks into a multi pronged assault, directly 389 00:22:35,490 --> 00:22:38,790 targeting Israeli civilians in their own homes. 390 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,210 Easy to remember those rhinoplasty were at an impasse. 391 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,480 They saw that the old methods weren't working. And they also 392 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,210 realized that by doing this, they succeeded in creating 393 00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:50,640 terror, creating huge psychological effects. 394 00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:54,960 Over the years staff has survived multiple attempts on 395 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,770 his life, 396 00:22:55,949 --> 00:23:01,019 wait for the wounded in previous Israeli assassination attempts 397 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:06,269 from 2001 onwards. There are reports that he has lost an eye 398 00:23:06,509 --> 00:23:09,539 there are reports that he has lost at least one limb. 399 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,930 Earlier this week, Israeli airstrikes hit Muhammad day of 400 00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:16,680 his family home reportedly killing several of his immediate 401 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,670 relatives. DFC exact location is unknown. 402 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:24,450 Adam Curry: I'm gonna bet you he shows up in Iran. I'm just I'm 403 00:23:24,450 --> 00:23:27,570 just gonna guess that that might be a good place for the this guy 404 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,320 is profile hasn't been spun up enough yet. This is France 24. 405 00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:35,820 But a one eyed one legged bandit, like Osama bin Laden is 406 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:39,840 a step above. I mean, this is this is really taking it all the 407 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,360 way you watch this guy be played UPS exactly the same script as 408 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:51,300 911. And now we have to continue to create strife inside our own 409 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:54,690 countries. We have to make sure that we're all yelling, you 410 00:23:54,750 --> 00:23:56,940 know, if you're not for this group, You're horrible. If 411 00:23:56,940 --> 00:24:00,360 you're not for that group, You're horrible. Bring on the ad 412 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:04,020 L on MSNBC What a match made in heaven. 413 00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:06,450 Unknown: The thing that's so challenging vexing about this is 414 00:24:06,450 --> 00:24:10,050 people are saying well, could this escalate into a wider war? 415 00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:16,440 It is a water war. This is Al Qaeda from from al Qaeda to ISIS 416 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:21,210 to Hamas. He says what Islamic radicalism, jihadism looks like, 417 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,400 again, it doesn't seek a peaceful resolution of a 418 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,120 conflict. This was not some inevitable outcome. This was a 419 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:31,440 pre planned massacre, and how did they send 1000s of missiles 420 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,670 into Israel? Because they were supplied by Iran. And we'll ask 421 00:24:35,670 --> 00:24:37,770 those questions. We will wonder about 422 00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:40,770 Adam Curry: houses Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the anti 423 00:24:40,770 --> 00:24:41,610 Defamation League. 424 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Unknown: Oh, that failure happened that I saw David 425 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,560 Ignatius, who's journalism I so deeply respect, and it was 426 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,320 reporting I appreciate and he said, you know, they will look 427 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,410 at was this an intelligence failure, a military failure. 428 00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:57,750 Jonathan, same playbook. This was the West's failure. This was 429 00:24:57,780 --> 00:25:02,220 our failure for decades to allow out Iran and its proxies to 430 00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:07,410 dehumanize Zionists and Jews to allow people to think on college 431 00:25:07,410 --> 00:25:12,150 campuses at Harvard. To allow anti Zionism to flourish. 432 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,730 Adam Curry: We say I'm sure you saw the, the reports that that 433 00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:21,000 all these billionaires and business owners have said, Oh, 434 00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:25,830 if you signed that note, at Harvard, we're not we're never 435 00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:28,950 gonna hire you. You're not hireable you're a horrible 436 00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:29,910 person saw this 437 00:25:29,910 --> 00:25:34,140 Unknown: in the 30s legitimate professors, students who came to 438 00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:38,010 believe the poison of the Third Reich, who came to think that in 439 00:25:38,010 --> 00:25:42,870 the wake of World War One, the Jews had literally abandoned 440 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:46,140 Germany. And remember what history would Hitler said it's 441 00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:49,020 the Jews who caused their own misfortune. Now we have 442 00:25:49,050 --> 00:25:53,340 Palestinian Hamas apologists and their acolytes here in the West 443 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,790 are accomplices. Jonathan saying, Israel broth is on 444 00:25:56,910 --> 00:26:01,530 blaming the victim, while we're still collecting the bodies is 445 00:26:01,530 --> 00:26:05,130 as disgraceful and as dishonorable thing as I could 446 00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:08,130 ever imagine. The last thing I'll say, and I'm so sorry, but 447 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,750 I don't ever remember feeling like this before. Is that the 448 00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:18,420 idea? The notion that somehow this piece this rapprochement 449 00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:21,840 with Saudi Arabia, they were trying to disrupt it I think 450 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,410 there's some truth to that. But let's be clear, that was a path 451 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:28,800 to peace working out a deal that could have given the 452 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,250 Palestinians the end the Israelis the confidence to make 453 00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:36,930 a deal with the Palestinians. Terror, reinforces terror 454 00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:40,740 reinforces the conflict, because that's what these these 455 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:43,950 barbarians want. We've got to stand up against them every time 456 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,530 Adam Curry: so you know, it doesn't matter what you say 457 00:26:46,530 --> 00:26:50,010 you're gonna have someone yell at you no matter who you are, we 458 00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:52,830 might as well just not say anything and even our very even 459 00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:56,490 though I predicted these emails would come in just two quick 460 00:26:56,490 --> 00:27:00,930 ones that I'll just read your take on Israel and the massacre 461 00:27:00,930 --> 00:27:04,440 at the Music Festival being an OP is disgusting longtime 462 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,890 listener I think I'm done now. Here's my here's my favorite 463 00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:11,040 what 464 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,230 John C Dvorak: was the first line he said what he said was an 465 00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:14,790 OP says 466 00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:17,490 Adam Curry: Your take on Israel and the massacre at the Music 467 00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:19,530 Festival being an OP is disgusting. 468 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,400 John C Dvorak: We never said it was an OP No in fact that we 469 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,210 said it No. I never said was an OS. 470 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:29,670 Adam Curry: It might have been an inside job but not an OP. 471 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:34,140 John C Dvorak: Well, we fit we fit well. In my the way I see it 472 00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:38,940 is that this was allowed to take place for some alternatives for 473 00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:42,690 some for some reason, or other because they there's no way that 474 00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:46,890 this could have been a surprise. That's all as far as I took it. 475 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,830 Yeah, those people were genuinely killed. It wasn't an 476 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:50,340 OP. 477 00:27:50,370 --> 00:27:53,130 Adam Curry: Well, you you. You're like this next one? 478 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,720 John C Dvorak: I bet I will. And by the way, we don't need people 479 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,130 like that in this audience. 480 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,000 Adam Curry: Now but it's important to I think it's 481 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,480 important to just show this that the strife is even within no 482 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,380 agenda nation. 483 00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:10,080 John C Dvorak: And because we're going to have new we had the 484 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,120 same thing with Ukraine. We lost a lot of list. 485 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:14,639 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Would you framework Oh, and guess what 486 00:28:14,669 --> 00:28:17,429 turns out to be pretty spot on about that one. But doesn't of 487 00:28:17,429 --> 00:28:23,039 course, you sound like a neocon. That's a subject from it's not a 488 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:27,059 real country to the nice Jews. We're just going to pray in the 489 00:28:27,059 --> 00:28:32,159 temple. You are Neo cons. Let's just let me read it. Your Neo 490 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:35,399 cons. I'm gonna start I'm gonna start over 491 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,700 John C Dvorak: it's over but I'm just today. This is like is he 492 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:39,990 listening to our show 493 00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:42,330 Adam Curry: yet? But this is this is what happens when people 494 00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:46,950 get infected by by the media virus. It's a truth when when 495 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:51,300 people throw at you 911 The first thing I think is dancing 496 00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:56,670 Israelis or whatever. From it's not a real country to the nice 497 00:28:56,670 --> 00:28:59,790 Jews. We're just going to pray in the temple. Your neocon 498 00:28:59,790 --> 00:29:03,450 Zionist biases are becoming obvious, and you sound like Dan 499 00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:07,740 Vaughn Gino or your buddy Glenn Beck, playing Wesley Clark's 500 00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:10,920 clip and not connecting it to the Zionist project and the 501 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,880 ancillary projects like mass immigration, pornography, trans 502 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:18,030 attacks on free speech that they do to us which they did to 503 00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:20,970 Germany until they rose up against jewelry and butthurt 504 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:24,690 bankers thus rallied the world to destroy them. It is one 505 00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:28,050 tribal group doing all these things and you know it no matter 506 00:29:28,050 --> 00:29:33,420 how hard your Jewish wife John handpicks view it's going to do 507 00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:36,750 your sole good to tell the truth and connect the dots or are you 508 00:29:36,750 --> 00:29:40,230 going to convert to take part in the blood rituals the sick and 509 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:44,250 the interviews want to return to and desecrate whole Muslim holy 510 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:48,120 sites? You are already halfway there halfway there as a Christ 511 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,070 cook it said. So this is how this this is Christ 512 00:29:53,070 --> 00:29:55,200 John C Dvorak: cook him a Christ. Wow, 513 00:29:55,230 --> 00:29:56,970 Adam Curry: great show title. Great. 514 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,120 John C Dvorak: Yes, a great phrase Christ cook Okay. 515 00:30:02,939 --> 00:30:08,249 Adam Curry: So a little a little historical background. I like 516 00:30:08,249 --> 00:30:12,659 doing this. Because this comes for because we don't get any of 517 00:30:12,659 --> 00:30:16,799 this in the United States. And this, of course, is TRT Turkish 518 00:30:16,919 --> 00:30:22,199 radio and television. And so they come at it from a 519 00:30:22,199 --> 00:30:27,329 perspective that they start off by, I think, Miss misnomer of 520 00:30:27,329 --> 00:30:32,129 Palestine, it used to be Syria Palestina, but okay, they're 521 00:30:32,129 --> 00:30:35,099 going to give us the history of Britain's role. And 522 00:30:35,099 --> 00:30:40,349 subsequently, the League of Nations and the United Nations 523 00:30:40,769 --> 00:30:43,679 in this entire thing, and you just don't get any of these 524 00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:48,509 perspectives. Forget about the obvious slant, they're they're 525 00:30:48,509 --> 00:30:53,099 putting on it, because you can, you can refute a lot of what 526 00:30:53,099 --> 00:30:57,539 they're saying. But I think some of some of this is good to hear 527 00:30:57,569 --> 00:31:00,929 for people who just have no perspective, because as long as 528 00:31:00,929 --> 00:31:04,349 I've been alive, and as long as you've been alive, this crap has 529 00:31:04,349 --> 00:31:10,019 been going on. I mean, ever since you were a boy. I'm sure 530 00:31:10,019 --> 00:31:11,009 you remember always 531 00:31:11,010 --> 00:31:14,550 John C Dvorak: been going on. I remember, just two quick 532 00:31:14,550 --> 00:31:18,540 stories. One when I was at Berkeley, it was every day there 533 00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:22,920 was some Jewish guy and a Palestinian guy yelling at each 534 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,570 other in the on the sprawl Plaza, there was every day. And 535 00:31:27,570 --> 00:31:32,070 then I went, I told him the story about this before, which 536 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:36,660 is a three hour lecture I heard at Wheeler auditorium with Phil 537 00:31:36,660 --> 00:31:41,910 Spector. And this was very long ago, and Phil Spector mentioned 538 00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:47,040 in his speech, that when he was a kid, this has been going on it 539 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,690 this is never ending, 540 00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:53,520 Adam Curry: and, and just for a biblical history, this goes back 541 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:59,550 to Isaac and Ishmael, briefly. Abraham and Sarah were told they 542 00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:02,970 were going to have a son, the son would, you know, all the 543 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,160 tribes of Israel would come out of this. And Sarah, and they 544 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,370 were like, 70, or something like, okay, yeah, sure, God, and 545 00:32:11,370 --> 00:32:14,670 Sarah's, like, this has taken too long. So she brought her 546 00:32:14,670 --> 00:32:18,000 handmade and Hagar and said, Hey, Bran wants you to lay with 547 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,450 her, as they say, in biblical terms. And out of that came 548 00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:25,170 Ishmael. But that but you know, she, she used to hope to God. 549 00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:30,210 And so then eventually she had Isaac miracle. And this 550 00:32:30,210 --> 00:32:33,540 literally was the Jew and the Arab who hate each other. This 551 00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:36,990 is literally where it comes from. This is why when I was in 552 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,280 Bangkok, with my friend Benco, when Israeli who was an grew up 553 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,610 and and or lived in Amsterdam, there were just two Arab guys 554 00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:46,530 who came into this rest, I think, was a McDonald's in 555 00:32:46,530 --> 00:32:49,590 Bangkok of all things. And they were just dressed in blue jeans, 556 00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:51,690 he was anything. And he said, Look at him, look them, they 557 00:32:51,690 --> 00:32:53,970 hate me. They look at how they hate me. And then meanwhile, I 558 00:32:53,970 --> 00:32:57,630 could feel his hate. I'm like, what what is your problem? It 559 00:32:57,630 --> 00:33:03,810 goes back this far. So now we go down go into the history of 560 00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:07,500 Israel. This is that of course. I mean, this goes back to the 561 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,740 Ottoman Empire. Do kids even learn about the Ottoman Empire 562 00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:14,910 in school anymore? Only 100 years ago, not that long ago. 563 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,670 John C Dvorak: taught any of this? No, 564 00:33:17,790 --> 00:33:18,750 Adam Curry: it's important. 565 00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:20,940 Unknown: When you think Palestine you may think 566 00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:23,760 violence, land seizures, and a decade's long Israeli 567 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,790 occupation. But what you might not know is that another country 568 00:33:26,790 --> 00:33:29,970 plays a driving role in causing the region's conflict, Imperial 569 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:37,800 Britain. From 1516 to at least 1917, Palestine was under the 570 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,160 control of the Ottoman Empire, a religiously diverse land where 571 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,070 Christians, Muslims and Jews lived alongside one another at 572 00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:47,580 peace for the most part. Then in the early 1900s, a small number 573 00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:50,640 of European Jews were trying to drum up support for Zionism and 574 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,760 establishment of a Jewish homeland just 20 years before in 575 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,030 1897, the movements led by Theodore Hutsul, was initiated 576 00:33:57,030 --> 00:34:00,090 at a conference in Switzerland, they decided that they would 577 00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:02,910 advocate for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. But the movement 578 00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:06,450 at the time didn't have much support. And at the time, only 579 00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:10,290 around 8% of the population of Palestine was Jewish. At the 580 00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:12,810 same time, Arab nationalism was on the rise, and many 581 00:34:12,810 --> 00:34:16,050 Palestinians wanted an independent state, Imperial 582 00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:19,050 Britain you have both ambitions of Zionist and Palestinians and 583 00:34:19,050 --> 00:34:23,070 use the situation to bolster their own interests. In 1914, 584 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,920 amid World War One, Britain went to war with the Ottoman Empire. 585 00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:29,610 And in 1915, Henry McMahon, Britain's representative in 586 00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:32,640 Cairo that pushed Arab leaders with a proposal, Britain was 587 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,040 agreed to Arab independence if they helped fight against the 588 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,730 Ottomans. Then in 1917, Britain's Foreign Secretary 589 00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:41,550 wrote a one paragraph letter to Walter Rothschild a leading 590 00:34:41,550 --> 00:34:44,430 figure in the British Jewish community. It's read His 591 00:34:44,430 --> 00:34:46,860 Majesty's government's views with favor the establishment in 592 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:49,710 Palestine have a national home for the Jewish people, and will 593 00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:52,020 use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of 594 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:54,660 this object. This letter became known as the Balfour 595 00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:55,440 Declaration. 596 00:34:55,590 --> 00:34:58,290 Adam Curry: This is important because I think even today's 597 00:34:58,290 --> 00:35:02,340 kids should at least learn about the All for declaration. I mean, 598 00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:07,260 it gives you a little more context than this drivel. This 599 00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:12,060 this, the absolute drivel that is being seeped out of 600 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:15,510 television and people in watch television. But all these clips 601 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:19,020 get onto social media and it's in some ways, even taken up 602 00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:23,940 context is just horrible how over socialized and under 603 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:25,230 educated people are. 604 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,540 Unknown: And it was in stark contrast to a declaration of the 605 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:30,960 British and French armies in 1918, which showed the people of 606 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Syria Palestine and Mesopotamia of autonomy. So what was going 607 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,410 on? Britain had promised independence to the Arabs that 608 00:35:37,410 --> 00:35:40,140 lived in Palestine, but then also promised a homeland for 609 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:43,140 Jews on land that was already inhabited was Britain just 610 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,420 transferring land that did not belong to them to whoever they 611 00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:49,230 liked. When the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1918, the League of 612 00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:51,930 Nations gave Britain a mandate or administrative control of 613 00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:55,950 Palestine in 1920. It was a dual mandate. On one hand, they were 614 00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:58,230 to act on behalf of Palestinians. But on the other 615 00:35:58,230 --> 00:36:00,780 hand, they were to act on behalf of the international community 616 00:36:00,780 --> 00:36:03,720 of Jews who wanted to establish a homeland, Britain and drew up 617 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,630 arbitrary borders, transferring the eastern bank of the Jordan 618 00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:09,570 River to the Hashemites. It was under the British mandate that 619 00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:12,090 Jews from Europe began to emigrate to Palestine and buy up 620 00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:15,630 land. The Jewish population in Palestine grew tenfold, from 621 00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:21,000 60,000 to more than 600,000. Between 1918 and 1947. Many 622 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,060 Palestinians saw the mass influx of Jews as a European colonial 623 00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:24,570 movement. 624 00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:26,880 Adam Curry: What's interesting is the video that goes along 625 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,630 with this, you literally see checkpoints with people on 626 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:35,190 horses. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's been going on since 627 00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:39,270 for a long time, the checkpoints there were no cars, people on 628 00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:40,020 horses, 629 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,580 Unknown: so as one might expect it led to conflict. In 1929, 630 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,340 riots broke out at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, with 631 00:36:47,340 --> 00:36:51,270 Palestinians and Jews lost lives. In 1936. After Jewish 632 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:55,050 emigration increased even more, more riots broke out. This time 633 00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:58,230 the British were heavy handed and killed between 2005 1000 634 00:36:58,230 --> 00:37:01,260 Palestinians. The Royal British Commission concluded that 635 00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:04,200 because Britain had allowed mass emigration, Palestine had two 636 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,420 distinct societies that couldn't be reconciled. 637 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,050 Adam Curry: I love how Britain kind of no one really talks 638 00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:12,750 about Britain being the the actor behind the 639 00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,930 John C Dvorak: whole thing. That's the reason they're so 640 00:37:15,930 --> 00:37:20,700 guilt ridden. And they're they jumping in oh, we're gonna do 641 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:21,870 whatever we have to 642 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:23,880 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's 40 seconds left, 643 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:26,610 Unknown: they recommended a partition of the land. The Arab 644 00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:29,130 hire committee rejected this, saying it was all their lands. 645 00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:31,530 Britain then banned the Arab higher commission. They 646 00:37:31,530 --> 00:37:34,620 introduced the white paper of 1939 white paper stated that 647 00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:37,590 Palestine should be a binational states inhabited by Jews and 648 00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:40,590 Palestinians, but that Jewish immigration would be limited for 649 00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:43,890 five years. But illegal immigration still went on and 650 00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:46,950 violates all immigration. And when Britain couldn't handle the 651 00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:49,080 mess, they had a part in creating, they handed the 652 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,130 country back to the UN in 1948. The UN then decided to partition 653 00:37:53,130 --> 00:37:56,610 Palestine. The story gets a lot more complicated after this, but 654 00:37:56,610 --> 00:37:59,280 the British promising land which already belongs to Palestinians, 655 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,070 to other people has played a part in decades of conflict and 656 00:38:02,070 --> 00:38:02,610 bloodshed. 657 00:38:03,630 --> 00:38:06,780 Adam Curry: Alright, so the UN, the UN is like, oh, we should 658 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:09,450 have a two state solution. Another thing I've been hearing 659 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:16,530 all my life and here is our current United Nations. What is 660 00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:20,280 the Director General? Is it, President, Chief, whatever the 661 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,970 group that has 662 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,980 Unknown: this most recent violence does not come in a 663 00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:26,850 vacuum back home. The reality is that it grows out of a long 664 00:38:26,850 --> 00:38:31,710 standing conflict with a 56 year long occupation and no political 665 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:35,010 end in sight. I am deeply distressed by today's 666 00:38:35,010 --> 00:38:38,280 announcement that Israel will initiate a complete seizure of 667 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:44,220 the Gaza Strip, nothing allowed in no electricity, food or fuel. 668 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:49,410 Israel must see its legitimate needs for security materialized, 669 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,890 and Palestinians must see a clear perspective for the 670 00:38:52,890 --> 00:38:58,230 establishment of their own state realized only a negotiated peace 671 00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:01,110 that fulfills the legitimate national aspirations of 672 00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:05,220 Palestinians and Israelis, together with their security, 673 00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:09,300 like the long held vision of a two state solution in line with 674 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:12,990 the United Nations resolutions, international law and previous 675 00:39:12,990 --> 00:39:16,740 agreements can bring long term stability to the people of these 676 00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:20,460 lands and why the Middle East region. Thank you. 677 00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:25,950 Adam Curry: Yes, thank you very much. Whatever same old sank you 678 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:32,040 saying that quick, biblical reference. Matthew 24. This is 679 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,310 Jesus on the mound he says you will hear of wars and rumors of 680 00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:39,720 wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must 681 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:43,560 happen but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against 682 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,580 nation and kingdom against kingdom. So you know, as a as a 683 00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:50,280 Christian, I'm like, Yeah, okay, I guess maybe we're there. But 684 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,640 then comes this. There'll be famines and earthquakes in 685 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,840 various places. 686 00:39:55,050 --> 00:39:58,230 Unknown: There is another major story developing overseas, at 687 00:39:58,230 --> 00:40:01,800 least 2000 people have died. aid after twin earthquakes in 688 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,370 Afghanistan near the border with Iran, hundreds of people are 689 00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:08,130 believed to be trapped in the rubble. A lack of modern 690 00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:10,920 equipment is hampering the rescue efforts. No 691 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,750 Adam Curry: worries, all these are the beginning of the birth 692 00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:14,040 pains. Actually, it's 693 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:15,090 John C Dvorak: 3000 694 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:20,070 Adam Curry: years old report it is at least two hours old. But 695 00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,990 John C Dvorak: there's another issue here that's not being 696 00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:27,480 discussed in the West. And that is war crimes which are apparent 697 00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:29,640 by both sides. 698 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:35,280 Adam Curry: For me, it's just I just want to say, war crimes to 699 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,900 me is the same as hate speech. I mean, well, it's like, okay, 700 00:40:40,290 --> 00:40:42,360 John C Dvorak: there are certain specific things and I want to 701 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,950 play these three clips you got it? Is War Crimes lead in Al 702 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:47,640 Jazeera. 703 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:51,300 Unknown: Petit Calhoun joins me now from Washington, DC for more 704 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:54,870 on this and blinking on his way. Now, what does the issue having 705 00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:56,850 to achieve by going himself? 706 00:40:57,150 --> 00:40:59,850 Well, first and foremost, it sends the message, it backs up 707 00:40:59,850 --> 00:41:03,270 with the President's words that the US is fully behind Israel. 708 00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:05,850 But there's going to be discussions and one thing we've 709 00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:09,900 noticed in the last 24 hours is the US has really started to 710 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:13,770 shift focus to try and to get a humanitarian corridor out of 711 00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:17,220 Gaza. We he said on the tarmac, that he's been speaking to 712 00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:19,560 officials in Egypt. And in Israel. He said it was 713 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,000 complicated. He didn't explain exactly where the negotiations 714 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,240 were being held up. He wouldn't answer that. But it is very 715 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,250 clear. And we're hearing this from the White House from the 716 00:41:29,250 --> 00:41:33,360 secretary of state that they are pushing to have some way to get 717 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,290 civilians out of Gaza, get Americans out, get civilians 718 00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:41,040 out, they are working that and they undoubtedly that is going 719 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,930 to be a huge part of the conversation. 720 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,520 John C Dvorak: And that leads us to the problem that that no one 721 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,850 wants to talk about in our media. This is a clip to 722 00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:54,060 Unknown: the end, Joe Biden has just been holding a meeting with 723 00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:57,540 Jewish leaders at the White House. What did they have to 724 00:41:57,540 --> 00:42:00,510 talk about? And did he make any announcements off the back of 725 00:42:00,510 --> 00:42:00,870 that? 726 00:42:01,290 --> 00:42:05,160 Well, he actually moved the needle a little bit. I watched 727 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,310 his speech just the other day. And it was the full throated 728 00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:12,090 angry, really emotional speech from US President Joe Biden 729 00:42:12,090 --> 00:42:15,030 about this. And some were critical of him because he 730 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:18,000 didn't call for any sort of restraint from Israel, it was a 731 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,210 full throated endorsement. We were speaking to this group, he 732 00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:24,360 told them he had spoken to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin 733 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,200 Netanyahu, and that he told them that he had even though people 734 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:34,290 are very angry that they have to follow the rules of war. And so 735 00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:38,640 that's seems to me to be putting a baseline on what they expect 736 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,770 from these really operation. One critical thing is, that would be 737 00:42:43,770 --> 00:42:47,490 the civilian quarter because it is against the laws of war two, 738 00:42:48,090 --> 00:42:52,680 that blood civilians escaped and also might call into question 739 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,010 that total blockade blockade of Gaza. That is a war crime 740 00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:59,790 according to all rules of law, the Geneva Convention, so he's 741 00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:04,890 17, possibly a subtle message to Israel, that there is a there 742 00:43:04,890 --> 00:43:07,290 are things that the US will not condone. 743 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:11,520 John C Dvorak: This is going to be a problem. You can't cordon 744 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,140 off an entire area and just pummel them, and not allowing 745 00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:19,650 them to escape that is a war crime by any standards. As far 746 00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:22,380 as I'm concerned. I don't think it's like hate speech is really, 747 00:43:22,530 --> 00:43:25,500 you just can't put someone in a cage and then just bomb the shit 748 00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:29,760 out of them. Because it's fun. I have a I have a fact there's a 749 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,060 third, 750 00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:34,110 Adam Curry: I want to give you 24 seconds. Because this this is 751 00:43:34,140 --> 00:43:38,130 of course the problem. This is from last year. This is fun to 752 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:39,810 lie in talking about Russia. 753 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,800 Unknown: Yesterday, we saw again, Russia's targeted attacks 754 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,810 against civilian infrastructure, targeted attacks on civilian 755 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:54,270 infrastructure with a clear aim to cut off men, women, children 756 00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:58,590 of water, electricity and heating with winter coming. 757 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:03,660 These are acts of pure terror. And we have to call it as such. 758 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:04,890 Okay, 759 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,240 John C Dvorak: excellent. 760 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,000 Adam Curry: To pull out of a hat you get to call it that 761 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,680 sometimes I guess not always. 762 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,630 John C Dvorak: That was a good one. Yeah. Okay. Well, here's 763 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:14,790 the final for these this war crime stuff, 764 00:44:15,090 --> 00:44:17,970 Unknown: and petty, can you just give us a bit more of an idea 765 00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:20,940 about what sort of military aid the US is actually sending 766 00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:21,510 Israel? 767 00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:24,930 They are being incredibly vague. As you know, I'm the defense 768 00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:26,760 correspondents, I've been speaking to people at the 769 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,330 Pentagon. And there was concern even before this happened in 770 00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:33,180 Israel, that they were going to run out of ammunition. They've 771 00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:36,300 been giving incredible amounts of ammunition to Ukraine. 772 00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:38,820 They've been trying to ramp up production, but it obviously 773 00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:42,900 takes time. This officials told me on background that basically 774 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:47,130 yes, we believe we can give Israel some of what it needs 775 00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:49,500 because we've got stockpiles all over the globe. 776 00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:54,000 Adam Curry: Hold on a second. All that we had left was cluster 777 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,900 munitions. Is that what we're sending over now? 778 00:44:58,530 --> 00:45:01,590 John C Dvorak: Dado No, in fact, you Only LG zeros mentioned this 779 00:45:01,590 --> 00:45:04,800 because we talk about on the army is oh, we're, you're giving 780 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,530 him a we're sending some, you know, some chips down there to 781 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,920 block to block the Mediterranean, we're there. But 782 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,110 they don't say what you're saying when we're sending them 783 00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:17,640 delta zero tried to dig into it. And they can't find out that we 784 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,520 don't know if it's cluster munitions or if it's, you know, 785 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,940 bubblegum we have, there's no idea. That said 786 00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:25,890 Unknown: they've been very vague. They said, We want to 787 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:30,720 give them Munitions for the Iron Dome defense system, obviously. 788 00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:33,570 And then other than that, they really haven't given very many 789 00:45:33,570 --> 00:45:38,070 details. Now, if Israel is were to launch a ground invasion, it 790 00:45:38,070 --> 00:45:42,300 is by far the most challenging type of war for warfare in 791 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:47,010 existence, it is exceptionally dangerous and deadly. So if the 792 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,190 Israel has decided what they would do, likely with Secretary 793 00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:52,680 Blinken, they're going over some of those plans, some of the 794 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:55,620 finding out where some of those shortfalls are. If they are 795 00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:58,440 going to do a ground incursion, in an incredibly densely 796 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,200 populated area with very narrow streets, they'll need things 797 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,100 like night vision goggles, they'll need ammunition perhaps 798 00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:08,820 better, but body armor. So really, they're I think, part of 799 00:46:08,820 --> 00:46:11,250 trying to get a sense of where Israel is going to take this and 800 00:46:11,250 --> 00:46:12,840 what the US can do to help them. 801 00:46:13,050 --> 00:46:16,110 Okay, thank you so much. That is Petit Kelheim for us. In 802 00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:17,220 Washington DC 803 00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:20,550 Adam Curry: TRT had a report about what's being sent and the 804 00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:23,880 and what the US is doing to support Israel. Here it is 805 00:46:24,030 --> 00:46:27,210 Unknown: US President Joe Biden called Hamas his attack on 806 00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:31,710 Israel and atrocity on an appalling scale, promised that 807 00:46:31,710 --> 00:46:35,610 the US has Israel's back and then issued a warning. 808 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,010 Let me say again, any country, any organization, anyone 809 00:46:41,010 --> 00:46:45,420 thinking of taking advantage of situation? I have one word, 810 00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:48,060 don't. Don't 811 00:46:48,090 --> 00:46:49,860 Adam Curry: that's actually a contraction. It's actually two 812 00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:50,190 words. 813 00:46:54,210 --> 00:46:57,930 John C Dvorak: But even so, even so he said it twice. I have one 814 00:46:57,930 --> 00:46:59,280 word, don't don't. 815 00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:05,130 Unknown: March may be broken. But our resolve is clear. Biden 816 00:47:05,130 --> 00:47:08,730 tried to separate the Palestinian people from Hamas. 817 00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:11,700 Hamas does not stand for the Palestinian people, by 818 00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,960 Adam Curry: the way. I'm sorry. This is our president now. 819 00:47:17,490 --> 00:47:19,650 Unknown: I have one word don't. 820 00:47:20,129 --> 00:47:24,449 Adam Curry: And our president then I have two words for you. 821 00:47:25,049 --> 00:47:28,679 Predator drones. I mean, come on. That was cool. Predator 822 00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:30,029 drones. Two words 823 00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:36,120 Unknown: don't. Our hearts may be broken. But our resolve is 824 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,690 clear. 825 00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:40,830 Biden tried to separate the Palestinian people from Hamas. 826 00:47:41,069 --> 00:47:44,279 Hamas does not stand for the Palestinian people's right to 827 00:47:44,699 --> 00:47:48,269 dignity and self determination. Its stated purpose is 828 00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:49,800 annihilation of the State of Israel 829 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,150 on the murder of Jewish people. 830 00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:54,630 National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan says the death toll of 831 00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:58,260 Americans killed in the Hamas attack has grown to more than a 832 00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:02,250 dozen with nearly two dozen unaccounted for. But it's not 833 00:48:02,250 --> 00:48:05,940 clear how many of those are being held hostage by Hamas. 834 00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:09,960 Sullivan said there are still no plans to put US forces into the 835 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,430 conflicts and that for now, the US is only helping Israel beef 836 00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:18,330 up its Iron Dome defense shield and providing expertise and 837 00:48:18,330 --> 00:48:22,140 intelligence and sending a flotilla of warships toward 838 00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:23,820 Israel as a deterrent 839 00:48:23,850 --> 00:48:28,440 Adam Curry: slay Flotilla. Isn't a flotilla a certain amount. 840 00:48:29,009 --> 00:48:32,159 John C Dvorak: Yeah, no. Chicken. Nobody uses the term 841 00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:35,309 flotilla they there's a term for what they sent. 842 00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:38,880 Adam Curry: Well, um, see flotilla is like a bunch of 843 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:46,560 rafts. A small fleet of vessels commercial or otherwise, he was 844 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,220 asked this 845 00:48:47,790 --> 00:48:51,480 John C Dvorak: fleet, it's a big fleet, aircraft carrier and a 846 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,160 bunch of destroyers small 847 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:55,170 Adam Curry: No, that's not a flotilla. That's a fleet, 848 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,440 Unknown: but he was asked how much of Israel's retaliation, 849 00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:03,060 its destruction in Gaza is the US willing to tolerate? 850 00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:06,600 I don't think of this in terms of retaliation. This is about 851 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,040 providing support to Israel as it seeks to defend its territory 852 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,310 and deal with an ongoing imminent threat from Hamas 853 00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:15,000 terrorists. 854 00:49:15,029 --> 00:49:18,299 Still, the Biden administration is talking to officials in 855 00:49:18,299 --> 00:49:21,689 Israel and Egypt, about providing a safe passage to 856 00:49:21,689 --> 00:49:25,739 Palestinians, perhaps through Egypt, even though Egypt has 857 00:49:25,739 --> 00:49:29,579 been reluctant in the past to open up its Gaza border to them. 858 00:49:29,879 --> 00:49:33,299 And that is sure to be one of the topics when US Secretary of 859 00:49:33,299 --> 00:49:37,079 State Antony Blinken arrives in Israel later this week. Oh, 860 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:37,319 that's 861 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,570 Adam Curry: all you need. You need Blinken that's just sent 862 00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:41,370 Newland. That'll make it even when they didn't 863 00:49:41,370 --> 00:49:44,610 John C Dvorak: send that report. What you you you falsely 864 00:49:44,970 --> 00:49:47,940 promoted Oh, I had the floods. They didn't say what they said 865 00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:50,730 some some parts for that. No, no, no. I 866 00:49:50,730 --> 00:49:53,070 Adam Curry: said that. They tried to get the answer to this. 867 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:53,760 So they also 868 00:49:55,050 --> 00:49:57,030 John C Dvorak: can't get the answer except the parts I 869 00:49:57,030 --> 00:50:01,920 Raytheon. Apparently scutts should send Some stuff. So that 870 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,860 part's at the further end, because nobody else is using 871 00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:06,990 this, you know, these patriots 872 00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:10,680 Adam Curry: this is. So this is how I'm going to view this 873 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,300 conflict and what happens for the next period of time. I mean, 874 00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:20,490 I, I do not think this is going to end swiftly, it's going to 875 00:50:20,490 --> 00:50:26,400 expand, just like COVID. Just like 911. Really, this is a 876 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,960 liquid liquidity event. And we're in more need of it than 877 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,110 ever, I would say, I don't know much about the public markets. 878 00:50:34,110 --> 00:50:39,750 But I see the issue with everyone going into bonds. All 879 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:42,390 of a sudden, by on Friday, everything reversed the dollar 880 00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:45,420 started. This is before this attack happened. The dollar 881 00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:48,930 reversed, the bond yields started to go down stocks were 882 00:50:48,930 --> 00:50:51,960 looking more attractive. All the Fed presidents were coming out 883 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,900 egg economy's great, everything's good, then this 884 00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:58,350 happens. And for that we had a little blip there where Oh, 885 00:50:58,350 --> 00:51:00,870 everyone's all our stocks are gonna go up. And I think today 886 00:51:00,870 --> 00:51:04,920 it's down again. So we need money. The military industrial 887 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,320 complex needs money. Right now we're in a shutdown situation. 888 00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:13,830 So they couldn't get the 24 billion they want it for 889 00:51:13,830 --> 00:51:19,740 Ukraine, then I'm I'm I mean, it's so obvious. So so obvious 890 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:23,460 that that how much money is going to be created for this? I 891 00:51:23,460 --> 00:51:26,250 don't think we have a war chest per se. I don't think we have 892 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:29,100 anything. I mean, what we have stuff for everybody. 893 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,790 John C Dvorak: Like that one report said they got stockpiles 894 00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:34,590 all over the world. Yeah. Well, 895 00:51:34,590 --> 00:51:37,050 Adam Curry: we didn't have it for Ukraine. But I think I 896 00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:40,950 think, you know, we're gonna go into money printing mode. And 897 00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:43,650 the markets needed the banks need it. It's hard. I'm so 898 00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:47,370 happy. We don't have a cap on on our honored on our national 899 00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:51,690 debt. With that, that's convenient that there's no 900 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:56,850 statutory debt at the moment, as you know, no ceiling. And then 901 00:51:56,850 --> 00:52:02,910 of course, even though I truly believe this, truly, here's some 902 00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:07,260 here's some disinformation that came out. But actually falls 903 00:52:07,260 --> 00:52:11,490 right, it leads it folds into this topic of money for the 904 00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:14,850 military industrial complex. So going on whenever you see a clip 905 00:52:14,850 --> 00:52:19,320 that is 12 or 15 seconds long. That is an oh my god, I can't 906 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,710 believe it. You shouldn't show that. Oh, my God, I can't 907 00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:25,800 believe it clip that's been going around is a Rear Admiral 908 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:32,940 Kirby of the the National Security Council. Say, here's, 909 00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:36,900 here's the headline on the tweet, we're leaving you we're 910 00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:40,230 gonna we're gonna step away from Ukraine. No more funding for 911 00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:42,330 Ukraine. Look here. He said anything 912 00:52:42,330 --> 00:52:44,400 Unknown: funny. We're, we're coming near to the end of the 913 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,840 rope. I mean, today we announced $200 million. And we'll keep 914 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,990 that aid going as long as we can. But it's it's not going to 915 00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:52,860 be indefinite. So 916 00:52:53,070 --> 00:52:55,770 Adam Curry: it's not going to be indefinite. Oh, no, that's it. 917 00:52:55,770 --> 00:53:00,330 We're ending? We're ending support for Ukraine? No, no, it 918 00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:03,930 is quite the opposite. He is pleading for more money for 919 00:53:03,930 --> 00:53:05,850 everything. Here's the full minute, 920 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,070 Unknown: can you provide us anything on a timeline or give 921 00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:11,400 us a sense of how quickly the US would exhaust what it can 922 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,840 provide to Israel before 923 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:15,840 congressional actions and existing authorities and 924 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,760 appropriations to support Israel in the near term? And I got 925 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,220 asked last time, you know, what is near term? Or what's a bit 926 00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:27,420 mean? I, I can't give you a date calendar, because a lot of it's 927 00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:29,280 going to depend on their expenditure rate, and what the 928 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,700 replenishment ability is, what the need is and what our ability 929 00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:35,970 to do it is. But in the near term, we've we've got 930 00:53:36,030 --> 00:53:39,780 appropriations and authorities for both Ukraine and for Israel. 931 00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:45,360 For both, you don't want to be trying to bake in long term 932 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,250 support. When you're at the end of the rope and the in Ukraine, 933 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,980 on the Ukraine funding. We're, we're coming near to the end of 934 00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:57,090 the rope. I mean, today we announced $200 million. And 935 00:53:57,090 --> 00:54:00,300 we'll keep that aid going as long as we can. But it's it's 936 00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:02,820 not going to be indefinite. So are we moving with a sense of 937 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:05,070 alacrity? Absolutely. I couldn't give you a date certain on the 938 00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:05,460 calendar. 939 00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:08,550 Adam Curry: So no, no, what he's saying is not worth stepping 940 00:54:08,550 --> 00:54:11,580 away from Ukraine. No, we're doubling down. We need more for 941 00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:12,840 Ukraine. We Yes. 942 00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:16,110 John C Dvorak: Actually, the point you made about if you see 943 00:54:16,110 --> 00:54:19,950 a 15 second clip going around, I see these all the time, and I'm 944 00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:23,190 always trying to find the original. Yeah. Which is what we 945 00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:25,950 both do. But when you see something like that going 946 00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:30,900 around, yeah, it's taken out of context to fool you. Yes. And 947 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:33,360 all you have to do is do a little digging, and I don't know 948 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,830 why nobody, nobody but this show seems to do that. So now let's 949 00:54:37,860 --> 00:54:41,400 head it's really remarkable to me since we only had 41 people 950 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,950 out of the almost million people that listen to the show that 951 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:47,040 even bothered to contribute over $50 for this particular show, 952 00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:49,590 Adam Curry: you know, we could we could turn the cameras on, 953 00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:52,860 boasted here with headphones, and then talk about the outrage 954 00:54:52,860 --> 00:54:56,160 of the babies. And we're going to bomb them though. Yeah, we'd 955 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,590 make twice we make twice as much money if not more. So, two 956 00:55:01,590 --> 00:55:05,580 theaters we're going to add to this. We don't have to go too 957 00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:09,540 deep into it. But you probably heard about the pipeline, the 958 00:55:09,540 --> 00:55:16,290 Finland gas pipeline. Well, it looks like that was some 959 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,790 terrorism. Someone blew up that pipeline. Of course, Finland is 960 00:55:20,790 --> 00:55:25,140 a brand new NATO member, what are the chances? So outcomes? 961 00:55:25,140 --> 00:55:29,910 Jens Stoltenberg, the head honcho of NATO was the Lensky 962 00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:34,410 literally standing next to him like a little boy. And here's 963 00:55:34,410 --> 00:55:35,460 what yen says 964 00:55:35,490 --> 00:55:40,170 Unknown: we will also address the incident in the Baltic Sea, 965 00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:45,210 with the damage caused to critical undersea 966 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:48,990 infrastructure. I spoke with Preston Salvini minister and 967 00:55:48,990 --> 00:55:52,890 Prime Minister Carlos yesterday, and we are in close contact 968 00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:56,730 important thing now is to establish what happened and how 969 00:55:56,730 --> 00:56:01,290 this could happen. If it is proven to be a deliberate attack 970 00:56:01,290 --> 00:56:04,950 on a NATO critical infrastructure, then this will 971 00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:10,200 be of course serious, but it will also be met by a united and 972 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:12,810 determined response from NATO 973 00:56:13,230 --> 00:56:16,770 Adam Curry: Article Five because was Finland is now a NATO 974 00:56:16,770 --> 00:56:20,850 country. So if someone did anything to that pipeline, Putin 975 00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:24,570 if anyone did some of that pipeline Oh, Article Five 976 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:25,920 response so we have 977 00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:29,850 John C Dvorak: all a different idea. What if it was Lewinsky's 978 00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:32,610 boys the Ukrainians who did something to that pipeline just 979 00:56:32,610 --> 00:56:36,030 to stir things up? And we find out that it was them do it? Does 980 00:56:36,030 --> 00:56:37,260 NATO attack them now? 981 00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:42,870 Adam Curry: Dream on Dream? Dream on? No, we want more wars. 982 00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:47,940 War is good for business. It's good for business. And now the 983 00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:52,560 final frontier besides sadly, I think Lebanon is there's not 984 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,540 much to realize in Lebanon anymore. But you know, I it's on 985 00:56:57,540 --> 00:57:00,510 the west Clarke seven lists so we'll just we'll just add it 986 00:57:00,510 --> 00:57:01,800 there. That wouldn't take much. 987 00:57:01,830 --> 00:57:03,600 John C Dvorak: I do have actually a couple of clips 988 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,050 regarding the Hezbollah attack from Lebanon. Let's do that. 989 00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:11,190 Let's do that. This is habitable attack at this is not what you 990 00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:14,310 hear from any of our media. Again, I have to go to Al 991 00:57:14,310 --> 00:57:18,360 Jazeera English for this. This is Hezbollah attack one 992 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360 Unknown: of the Israeli army is trying to calm fears after a 993 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,240 false alarms and people nationwide scrambling for 994 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:24,810 shelter. 995 00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:34,290 warning sirens rang out across northern Israel and flares were 996 00:57:34,290 --> 00:57:37,530 fired at the border. As people across the country were told to 997 00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:41,100 seek shelter over a possible aerial infiltration from 998 00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:45,030 Lebanon. The army now says the Panic was caused by human error. 999 00:57:45,090 --> 00:57:49,140 Only Hashem is in the town of Nakota human error and Lebanon 1000 00:57:49,140 --> 00:57:50,460 near the border with Israel. 1001 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:56,310 Today was a very hectic day. It started with Hezbollah attack on 1002 00:57:56,370 --> 00:58:02,610 Israeli troops on the borders, mainly in the HERA village on 1003 00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:06,450 the border line. According to the pictures we saw from 1004 00:58:06,450 --> 00:58:11,070 Hezbollah, it seems that there was a direct hit with guided 1005 00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:16,230 missiles. Now following that Israeli assaulted shelling, the 1006 00:58:16,260 --> 00:58:20,820 villages surrounding the borders, and there were two 1007 00:58:20,820 --> 00:58:25,590 people injured. Now, later on, this alarm came and there were 1008 00:58:25,590 --> 00:58:30,960 these reports about planes, paragliders crossing towards the 1009 00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:38,070 border. However, there was no genuine reason to understand why 1010 00:58:38,070 --> 00:58:42,420 this alarm is coming out because none of these product gliders 1011 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:47,940 were seen with eyes. Also, at the same time, these product 1012 00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:52,800 gliders, the alleged panic gliders did not engage in a 1013 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,400 battle or in the fight on the ground. So later on, it was 1014 00:58:56,970 --> 00:58:59,160 clarified that this is not right. 1015 00:58:59,490 --> 00:59:03,660 Adam Curry: This is interesting. This paraglider thing paramotor 1016 00:59:03,690 --> 00:59:07,140 ultralight everyone's using different words for it. It's 1017 00:59:07,170 --> 00:59:10,470 it's also a 911 throwback to these guys couldn't even fly a 1018 00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:14,310 Cessna. And they flew these planes into buildings. Oh, look, 1019 00:59:14,310 --> 00:59:17,070 they're coming over a little paragliders and they're causing 1020 00:59:17,070 --> 00:59:21,330 havoc. It's all a just a different verse. It's like a 1021 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:23,250 reboot of cheers. 1022 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,990 John C Dvorak: Whatever the case is, the non existent paragliders 1023 00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:32,520 that part clipped to indicate that the Israelis are actually 1024 00:59:32,550 --> 00:59:36,300 pounding the southern border of Lebanon as we speak. 1025 00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:41,880 Unknown: However, the Israeli army continued to launch fleurs 1026 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:47,790 in the skies of South Lebanon, also burning the bushes around 1027 00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:53,310 the borders in order to deny any fighters. Kind of a cover just 1028 00:59:53,310 --> 00:59:57,240 in case they're trying to infiltrate the border. So it was 1029 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,600 a it was a hectic day for Israel. The troops on the 1030 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:05,640 Lebanese side and this clarified the situation whereas the 1031 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:11,130 tension is mounting day after day. So, in comparison with 1032 01:00:11,130 --> 01:00:15,360 yesterday when rockets were launched and hummus, Al Qassam 1033 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,320 brigades claimed responsibility or the day before where a group 1034 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,500 from Islamic Jihad infiltrated the borders and engage in a 1035 01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:26,820 battle with Israelis. Today was the bigger day. And it seems 1036 01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:29,520 that this tension is going to continue. It's not going to 1037 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,420 stop. And at least from what I understand this is going to 1038 01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:38,100 continue as far as the campaign on Gaza is going to continue to 1039 01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:38,670 continue. 1040 01:00:39,870 --> 01:00:44,040 Adam Curry: Oh, man, peanuts. This is the peanuts part in the 1041 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:49,140 background. We need to slowly ramp up Iran. This is the prize. 1042 01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:52,320 This is the big one. This is what and it would be would it be 1043 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:59,610 any better to have Israel attack Iran with our weapons? We wish 1044 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,280 John C Dvorak: that that would have to be what that would have 1045 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:02,880 to be it 1046 01:01:02,910 --> 01:01:09,420 Adam Curry: and the Washington Post Robo WaPo has Iran on their 1047 01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:13,710 mind. So we had Chuck Schumer, Senator Schumer went to talk to 1048 01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:17,190 President GE, as the representative of the United 1049 01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:21,150 States, our president can't get a meeting with him. So send the 1050 01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:25,650 next best thing. And so here's a question from WaPo. Journal. He 1051 01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:28,440 asked a question about GE. But he also asked he slips into 1052 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,290 question about Iran, the answer is somewhat surprising. 1053 01:01:31,319 --> 01:01:32,999 Unknown: Thank you very much. Just following up on what you 1054 01:01:32,999 --> 01:01:35,849 just said. How did they respond specifically on the point of 1055 01:01:35,849 --> 01:01:38,549 Iran? How did President Xi respond on that? And more 1056 01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:43,919 broadly, if I could just ask a broader question? Many analysts 1057 01:01:43,919 --> 01:01:46,529 cite a lack of trust between the US and China as one of the 1058 01:01:46,529 --> 01:01:48,899 biggest stumbling blocks to better ties between the 1059 01:01:48,899 --> 01:01:52,109 countries after meeting with President Xi today, do you trust 1060 01:01:52,109 --> 01:01:53,459 him more or less than 1061 01:01:53,970 --> 01:01:58,590 let me just say this, both sides, the Chinese and us said, 1062 01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:01,440 unless we have sincere conversations about our 1063 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,090 differences, and not pull any punches, that we would never 1064 01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:09,810 solve these problems. And the thing that I think we respected 1065 01:02:09,810 --> 01:02:13,800 is the Chinese leadership from President Xi on down understood 1066 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,110 that we were going to be strong understood that we're going to 1067 01:02:16,110 --> 01:02:19,740 be tough, but also understood that's a necessity if we're ever 1068 01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:22,950 going to improve the relationship. On the first 1069 01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:23,940 question he listened. 1070 01:02:24,090 --> 01:02:27,450 Adam Curry: Now listen to to Schumer not having the answer, 1071 01:02:27,450 --> 01:02:29,730 but his handlers giving him the answer. 1072 01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:33,480 Unknown: I don't recall him saying anything specific on it, 1073 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,750 but he listened several times deliver the message. Go ahead. 1074 01:02:36,810 --> 01:02:40,410 They said they would deliver the message to the Iranians. Yes. 1075 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,980 Adam Curry: Okay. Okay. They said they would deliver the 1076 01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:50,160 message to the Iranians. So WaPo has Iran in their sights WaPo, I 1077 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,390 would say is compromised. They just fire they just fired 10% of 1078 01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:57,570 their workforce. They fired 200 people for whatever reason. 1079 01:02:58,470 --> 01:03:03,840 There is a scandal brewing. The Special Envoy to Iran from the 1080 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,500 US State Department, Robert Malley has kind of disappeared. 1081 01:03:07,830 --> 01:03:11,430 He was supposed to show up in some hearings, and you know, he 1082 01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:15,300 couldn't make it and now he's gone away, and we don't know 1083 01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:21,090 where he is. And oh, WaPo has intercepted some emails and 1084 01:03:21,090 --> 01:03:25,920 communications between him one of his fellow State Department 1085 01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:29,460 or former State Department workers now at the Pentagon with 1086 01:03:29,490 --> 01:03:35,970 Iran. It turns out, we had an Iranian spy in the State 1087 01:03:35,970 --> 01:03:40,140 Department. Remember, now there's all this noise about 1088 01:03:40,140 --> 01:03:45,060 Donald Trump leaking the plans to attack Iran? No, that's then 1089 01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:48,120 he had it and then someone else had it and who knows who had it, 1090 01:03:48,330 --> 01:03:51,570 but WaPo and this has been going on for a few weeks. No one's 1091 01:03:51,570 --> 01:03:56,460 really talking about it. This is Michael Christianson. He's he 1092 01:03:56,790 --> 01:04:01,500 he's on bitchute. So you're no, you're no, it's good. And he 1093 01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:05,550 gives us a brief overview of what's happening with the 1094 01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:10,200 special envoy. And the spies. The Iranian spies in the State 1095 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,730 Department. Iran is bad 1096 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,760 Unknown: right about the same time Malley was under suspicion. 1097 01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:19,230 Wow. Sensitive US government documents started showing up in 1098 01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:23,280 Iran state media, so our top Iran guide disappears for 1099 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:26,790 mishandling classified information and classified 1100 01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:30,270 information starts showing up in Iranian government hands. It's 1101 01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:34,380 not hard to deduce what happened here. But this new report adds 1102 01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:39,210 detail Robert Malley wasn't really our top Iran guy. He was 1103 01:04:39,210 --> 01:04:42,780 actually a Ron's top America guy. According to the report in 1104 01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:46,110 the emails It cites Robert Malley was funding supporting 1105 01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:49,560 and directing an Iranian intelligence operation designed 1106 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,130 to influence the United States. This project was called the 1107 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,690 Iranian experts initiative. So the experts strike again through 1108 01:04:57,690 --> 01:05:01,530 it. The Iranian government was recruiting Western academics, 1109 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,010 meeting them abroad to receive their loyalty and issue 1110 01:05:05,010 --> 01:05:08,400 directions for how to influence the US government. Though of 1111 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,850 course eventually it wasn't just influence that Robert Malley 1112 01:05:11,850 --> 01:05:15,300 achieved at the State Department. It was a job at the 1113 01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:19,230 highest level crafting Iran policy and Robert Malley brought 1114 01:05:19,230 --> 01:05:23,610 his Iranian experts initiative friends to the administration to 1115 01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:26,790 so while Malley is now officially out on leave, there's 1116 01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:30,420 still at least one more in a high level position. Who isn't 1117 01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:34,380 the emails in the report show a woman named Aryan Tabata by is 1118 01:05:34,380 --> 01:05:37,860 also a part of this Iranian influence network who is Tabata 1119 01:05:37,860 --> 01:05:41,910 by Well, she's a person Robert Malley, personally brought into 1120 01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:44,880 Biden's administration. She was first at the State Department. 1121 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,810 She was a diplomat on Melis iran nuclear negotiation team under 1122 01:05:48,810 --> 01:05:52,410 Biden, and now she works at the Pentagon, where she's currently 1123 01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:56,010 the Chief of Staff for the Assistant Secretary of Defense 1124 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,910 for special operations. So not only did she negotiate with 1125 01:05:59,910 --> 01:06:03,960 hostels while being part of a propaganda network for those 1126 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,140 hostels, she's now working with our SpecOps who of course, 1127 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,980 handle our most risky and difficult military operations 1128 01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:14,520 should any heightened conflict arise, emails were covered by 1129 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,770 the Wall Street Journal reporters showed Tabata by 1130 01:06:16,890 --> 01:06:20,280 consulting with and seeking advice from Iran's foreign 1131 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,640 ministry before attending policy events. Before she gave 1132 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,840 congressional testimony in 2014. She asked an Iranian official 1133 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,620 for advice on how to deal with other witnesses, who are Iran 1134 01:06:31,620 --> 01:06:34,560 critics, she sent in a run sympathetic article she 1135 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,190 published in The Boston Globe to this Iranian official for praise 1136 01:06:38,190 --> 01:06:41,520 and recognition. And also in these emails. The Iranian 1137 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,180 government was very pleased with the results of their project. 1138 01:06:46,410 --> 01:06:48,930 Adam Curry: So if you want something to crack open view, 1139 01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:52,680 call your friends at WaPo it's coming to the it's coming up. 1140 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,550 It's gonna bubble up. We've got Mohamed de F. I guarantee you 1141 01:06:56,550 --> 01:07:00,000 he'll show up in Iran. Oh, yeah. We found him we are smoke them 1142 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:00,300 out. 1143 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,430 John C Dvorak: The whole thing of these people go back to the 1144 01:07:05,610 --> 01:07:14,880 to the very middle east centric Obama administration. And yeah, 1145 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,270 this spy network is quite funny. It's it was written up in a 1146 01:07:18,270 --> 01:07:22,800 couple of different places. Nobody knows quite what to make 1147 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,250 of it. 1148 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,140 Adam Curry: Don't worry, it'll it'll be twisted into something. 1149 01:07:29,310 --> 01:07:32,910 But it's Iran is bad. Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, let 1150 01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:36,210 Israel do it. It all has to leave everyone saying it. Every 1151 01:07:36,210 --> 01:07:39,510 report. The anti Defamation League, obviously Iran, 1152 01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:44,850 Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas. Iran is all around. We've got to go out 1153 01:07:44,850 --> 01:07:49,290 we got to go with the route swung out. The one eyed one 1154 01:07:49,290 --> 01:07:52,320 legged guy who planned it all he's in Iran, you can just wait 1155 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:52,740 for it. 1156 01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:54,990 John C Dvorak: Wait, if that happens, I'm gonna give you 10 1157 01:07:54,990 --> 01:08:00,120 points because that would be ideal. We should also meet the 1158 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,650 whole thing's a scam. 1159 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,800 Adam Curry: Well, this is what I believe is it's a scam the 1160 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,510 military industrial complex. It's for politics. It's being 1161 01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:13,170 used for is getting all of the bad news off of the front line. 1162 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:18,900 Even the bad news about you the Ukraine conflict. Everything is 1163 01:08:19,170 --> 01:08:21,870 just off the table. Don't worry about it. I was 1164 01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:24,900 John C Dvorak: hooked by this by the way. As you can tell by my 1165 01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:30,990 clips. There was no way of getting any other news except 1166 01:08:30,990 --> 01:08:33,150 this story clip custodian 1167 01:08:33,150 --> 01:08:37,110 Adam Curry: sent me his normal batch is like it's all Israel. 1168 01:08:38,730 --> 01:08:41,040 John C Dvorak: I did get some of the stories. I mean, a few of 1169 01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:44,010 them here and there, but they're all They're all minor. Well, 1170 01:08:44,010 --> 01:08:47,880 there's one. There's one other thing about the hunter Biden's 1171 01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:50,820 This is the real kicker to me is the hunter Biden's all of a 1172 01:08:50,820 --> 01:08:53,040 sudden completely opted out. Of course, 1173 01:08:53,069 --> 01:08:55,229 Adam Curry: of course, you're he's back to smoking crack and 1174 01:08:55,229 --> 01:09:00,389 hookers is all it was, Oh, good. Good for him. So now this is 1175 01:09:00,389 --> 01:09:06,689 also a perfect opportunity to enact and try out some of the 1176 01:09:06,689 --> 01:09:11,429 new regulation in the European Union DSA, the digital services 1177 01:09:11,459 --> 01:09:17,009 agreement. Which Well, it's actually in this report. But 1178 01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:22,979 spoiler alert, if if you find if you're a platform and you find 1179 01:09:22,979 --> 01:09:27,629 hate speech, or disinformation, you have to remove it 1180 01:09:27,629 --> 01:09:30,569 immediately. letters went out letters went out to Elon Musk 1181 01:09:30,569 --> 01:09:33,659 letters went out to Mark Zuckerberg there's bad things on 1182 01:09:33,659 --> 01:09:36,929 your platform that will not stand in the European Union. As 1183 01:09:36,929 --> 01:09:37,409 violence 1184 01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:40,740 Unknown: rages in Israel and Gaza sued as fake news on social 1185 01:09:40,740 --> 01:09:45,330 media. The US making urgent appeal to big tech, in a letter 1186 01:09:45,330 --> 01:09:49,110 addressed and met a CEO Mark Zuckerberg on Wednesday. Anyway, 1187 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:51,780 it's on the blocks industry chief urged the platform to do 1188 01:09:51,780 --> 01:09:56,040 more to curb disinformation or face penalties curb it comes a 1189 01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,300 day after Viton made a similar call to ex owner Elon Musk As 1190 01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:03,000 the source of the war social media networks have been awash 1191 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,790 with graphic images and misinformation linked to the 1192 01:10:05,790 --> 01:10:09,690 violence, the fact checkers at Frost 24 They've been debunking 1193 01:10:09,690 --> 01:10:13,710 some of the forces under the aegis Digital Services Act, and 1194 01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:17,070 our social media platforms like x are obliged to stop the spread 1195 01:10:17,070 --> 01:10:20,520 of harmful content, or face fines of up to 6% of their 1196 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,750 annual global revenue. Instead, experts say that x is algorithm 1197 01:10:24,750 --> 01:10:27,630 is actively promoting disinformation on the Israel 1198 01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:31,050 Hamas war. Favoring posts by accounts that pay for its blue 1199 01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:34,050 check subscription service, regardless of who runs them. 1200 01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:38,160 Users can receive payments under the scheme, giving them more 1201 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,310 incentive to publish posts that are unlikely to elicit strong 1202 01:10:41,310 --> 01:10:42,840 reactions and go viral. 1203 01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:46,230 On a request for a comment made by CNBC a meta spokesperson, 1204 01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:50,250 spokesperson said we quickly established a special operations 1205 01:10:50,250 --> 01:10:52,950 center staffed with experts including fluent Hebrew and 1206 01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:56,970 Arabic speakers to monitor and respond to this rapidly evolving 1207 01:10:56,970 --> 01:11:00,630 situation. Our teams are working around the clock to keep our 1208 01:11:00,630 --> 01:11:03,990 platforms safe, take action on content that violates our 1209 01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:07,170 policies or local law and coordinate with third party fact 1210 01:11:07,170 --> 01:11:11,460 checkers in the region factual information. And there was also 1211 01:11:11,460 --> 01:11:17,400 a statement by ex CEO Linda Yakko. Reno shortly just a few 1212 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,700 minutes ago, saying that shortly after the news broke about Hamas 1213 01:11:20,730 --> 01:11:24,570 attack X assembled leadership, a leadership group to assess the 1214 01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:28,230 situation. Since the terrorist attack on Israel, we've taken 1215 01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:33,420 action to remove or label 10s of 1000s of pieces of content. So 1216 01:11:33,420 --> 01:11:36,120 far since the start of the conflicts ex says it has 1217 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,360 identified and removed hundreds of Hamas affiliated accounts 1218 01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:40,890 from their platform. 1219 01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:44,610 Adam Curry: Oh, of course, only Hamas has disinformation, we go 1220 01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:49,920 to our DSA dashboard. Last time we checked in with the DSA, the 1221 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:56,970 Digital Services Act. We had about 67,000 takedowns an hour. 1222 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:03,330 Do you care to wager what it's up to now? Joe? Quarter of a 1223 01:12:03,330 --> 01:12:13,350 million now not quite 137,630. Now 137,630? Yes, there we go. 1224 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:20,040 per hour, over five hour per hour? Over 5 million takedowns a 1225 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:20,700 day. 1226 01:12:22,830 --> 01:12:24,360 John C Dvorak: Others taking everything down? 1227 01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:29,010 Adam Curry: My point? Exactly. So what you are seeing is only 1228 01:12:29,010 --> 01:12:36,090 approved. It's only approved narrative. I think we can we can 1229 01:12:36,330 --> 01:12:41,430 easily presume that. So you're not getting anything from social 1230 01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:42,060 media. 1231 01:12:42,089 --> 01:12:43,979 John C Dvorak: You're getting nothing from the sounds of it. 1232 01:12:43,979 --> 01:12:48,599 If you're taking down 100 A quarter well, not a quarter of a 1233 01:12:48,599 --> 01:12:54,089 million to a million per hour. That's a lot of posts. That 1234 01:12:54,089 --> 01:12:57,089 means every eight hours a million posts are taken down. 1235 01:12:57,089 --> 01:13:02,489 It's a million posts a lot. It's an it's an eight hours and yet 1236 01:13:02,489 --> 01:13:07,769 24 hours is three. That's you know, it's 3 million a day. It's 1237 01:13:07,769 --> 01:13:15,929 ridiculous. Yeah. I know. So there too, so it has to be willy 1238 01:13:15,929 --> 01:13:18,689 nilly. Your way? Well, no, 1239 01:13:18,690 --> 01:13:21,570 Adam Curry: it's it's it's complaint from the government 1240 01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:26,250 take it down. Okay. Nothing has changed. Nothing has changed. 1241 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,770 The I just I'd say the the agents are still inside of x. 1242 01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:37,830 And everywhere else. Platforms are no good. Although I do like 1243 01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:41,520 kind of the insinuation that, that x is the worst because they 1244 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:46,620 pay people with blue checkmarks for for posts. If you know 1245 01:13:46,620 --> 01:13:49,920 that's the Yeah, the Twitter X 1246 01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:53,370 John C Dvorak: payments, pave eight bucks and you get a blue 1247 01:13:53,370 --> 01:13:53,910 checkmark. 1248 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:56,220 Adam Curry: Yeah, but no, but then you can join their 1249 01:13:56,220 --> 01:14:00,930 monetization program. And yeah, if you get people commenting on 1250 01:14:00,930 --> 01:14:04,860 your post, and they're able to sell ads, boom, you get some 1251 01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:05,280 money. 1252 01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:06,420 John C Dvorak: I'm doing it 1253 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:15,210 Adam Curry: that tell me this isn't an old story, just talking 1254 01:14:15,210 --> 01:14:19,260 about big tech for a second. Somehow I feel like this story 1255 01:14:19,410 --> 01:14:21,900 we've heard I couldn't find a clip but we've heard it before 1256 01:14:21,929 --> 01:14:24,839 Unknown: Amazon's Alexa has apparently been claiming the 1257 01:14:24,839 --> 01:14:29,279 2020 presidential election was stolen. The voice assistants 1258 01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:32,399 cites various sources when answering questions about the 1259 01:14:32,399 --> 01:14:35,999 election, including from a video streaming service popular with 1260 01:14:35,999 --> 01:14:39,539 conservatives called rumble. multiple investigations 1261 01:14:39,539 --> 01:14:42,569 uncovered no evidence of election fraud and Amazon says 1262 01:14:42,569 --> 01:14:46,409 for their part responses were errors delivered a small number 1263 01:14:46,409 --> 01:14:47,939 of times and quickly 1264 01:14:47,940 --> 01:14:48,570 fixed. 1265 01:14:49,469 --> 01:14:50,759 Adam Curry: Why do I think I've heard this 1266 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,370 John C Dvorak: story before I never heard this story before. 1267 01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:57,300 Adam Curry: I'm used to it must be must be. 1268 01:14:57,509 --> 01:14:59,639 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you really have a memory for this and so 1269 01:14:59,639 --> 01:15:02,669 you should Have it maybe it floated arrive I was 1270 01:15:02,670 --> 01:15:05,610 Adam Curry: looking for a clip I could not find a clip. I do have 1271 01:15:05,610 --> 01:15:08,280 a couple quick big tech things unless you want to stay in in 1272 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:08,940 the region. 1273 01:15:09,570 --> 01:15:12,480 John C Dvorak: We'll get to Hizbollah tap run down 1274 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,570 Adam Curry: the region are we still stuck in the real region 1275 01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:17,580 the region in the region? 1276 01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:20,430 John C Dvorak: West Bank killing so this is kind of interesting 1277 01:15:20,430 --> 01:15:22,830 here. There's a shooting people in the West Bank, which got 1278 01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:29,490 nothing to do with Gaza. But okay. Where is it? It's just 1279 01:15:29,610 --> 01:15:32,640 war. West Bank. 1280 01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:35,730 Unknown: More Israeli settlers have killed at least four 1281 01:15:35,730 --> 01:15:39,180 Palestinians and attacks on the village south of Nablus in the 1282 01:15:39,180 --> 01:15:42,570 occupied West Bank. The Palestinian health ministry says 1283 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,200 Israeli forces have also killed a 16 year old boy near Hebron. 1284 01:15:46,620 --> 01:15:50,640 29 Palestinians have been killed in the occupied West Bank since 1285 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,080 the war began on Saturday. 1286 01:15:54,060 --> 01:15:58,500 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was gonna body. The other one as I want to 1287 01:15:58,500 --> 01:16:01,560 play this. This is a protest for Palestinians in the EU and how 1288 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,500 it kind of contrast with what we're doing here in the United 1289 01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:05,040 States. 1290 01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:08,070 Unknown: But French police in the city of Leon used force to 1291 01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:11,040 break up a demonstration in support of Palestinians on 1292 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,430 Wednesday. It comes after a decision by city officials to 1293 01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:17,760 ban gatherings local activists had planned for later in the 1294 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,810 week. Authorities in Paris have also imposed prohibitions on pro 1295 01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:25,740 Palestinian marches. French President Emmanuel Macron has 1296 01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:29,730 condemned Hamas as attack on Israel, but opposes stopping the 1297 01:16:29,730 --> 01:16:34,410 European Union's humanitarian assistance to Palestinians. Pro 1298 01:16:34,410 --> 01:16:37,980 Palestinian demonstrations have also been taking place in the 1299 01:16:37,980 --> 01:16:42,030 German capital Berlin with a large police presence. Melissa 1300 01:16:42,030 --> 01:16:43,170 Chan has more. 1301 01:16:43,470 --> 01:16:46,950 Police have just told everyone in the area to disperse they 1302 01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:50,910 have banned all Palestinian solidarity protests over the 1303 01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:55,110 next few days. Particularly in Germany, this is a touchy 1304 01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:58,200 subject because of the history of the country, the history of 1305 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,650 World War Two and the Nazis the Holocaust, which means that the 1306 01:17:01,650 --> 01:17:04,530 German government and the German people, many of them consider 1307 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,670 something as simple as waving the Palestinian flag as anti 1308 01:17:08,670 --> 01:17:09,540 semitic. 1309 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:15,180 Just you know, this is always the flag and all German 1310 01:17:15,210 --> 01:17:19,260 arguments to denounce and actually persecute Palestinian 1311 01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:21,840 voices for the rights in Palestine 1312 01:17:22,380 --> 01:17:25,440 also have the right to do whatever they want. They have 1313 01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:28,110 been paying for 75 years and that's not okay. 1314 01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:30,690 Now over the next few days, emotions are going to run high. 1315 01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:34,260 There's also a big Israeli community here. And police say 1316 01:17:34,260 --> 01:17:36,900 one reason why they're banning protests is to prevent the two 1317 01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:39,870 sides from clashing. Melissa Chan, Al Jazeera 1318 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,330 Adam Curry: Berlin. It's all it's all meant to Trump to 1319 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,220 trigger trauma. And when 1320 01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:46,890 John C Dvorak: you're done that was your basic thesis and I 1321 01:17:46,890 --> 01:17:49,470 think you're ready. One last clip for this kind of thing. 1322 01:17:49,470 --> 01:17:52,800 There's the Democrats no support for Israel. Just from New Tang 1323 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,490 Dynasty, 1324 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,250 Unknown: some Democrats for your support for Israel among their 1325 01:17:56,250 --> 01:17:59,850 party might be waning. This comes as some lawmakers voiced 1326 01:17:59,850 --> 01:18:02,700 support for Palestine while others are distancing 1327 01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:03,570 themselves. 1328 01:18:06,660 --> 01:18:09,930 Some Democrats reportedly fear that members of their party 1329 01:18:09,930 --> 01:18:13,800 might stop supporting Israel sentiments in the US in the past 1330 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,640 few days since the attacks were mostly pro Israel, however, that 1331 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,300 might change. One unnamed Democratic lawmaker told 1332 01:18:21,300 --> 01:18:24,480 Politico for the last couple of days, we've seen all the 1333 01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:27,150 pictures of girls who were killed at this festival and the 1334 01:18:27,150 --> 01:18:30,840 children. The lawmaker says this will change now as the counter 1335 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,100 offensive begins. 1336 01:18:32,130 --> 01:18:35,100 Adam Curry: Have you actually I've been honest, it is part of 1337 01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:38,580 research. I have looked Have you seen a lot of people killed at 1338 01:18:38,580 --> 01:18:42,660 the festival? I'm not disputing it. But have we actually seen 1339 01:18:42,660 --> 01:18:43,560 that I've seen 1340 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,010 John C Dvorak: there's once there's one telegraph telegram 1341 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,310 site that has all these pictures, it's it's pretty 1342 01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:53,580 elaborate, and it does hundreds and hundreds of pictures. But 1343 01:18:53,610 --> 01:18:57,600 specifically from that festival No, no, I've not seen anything 1344 01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:57,960 either. 1345 01:18:57,990 --> 01:19:00,300 Adam Curry: Because they just reported that they've that 1346 01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:04,560 they've seen that. And it's you know, it's like the base. Yeah, 1347 01:19:04,650 --> 01:19:07,860 I'm not disputing it, but but I have not seen the pictures. And 1348 01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:12,450 you and the newsletter you sent out was, but it was on point. It 1349 01:19:12,450 --> 01:19:12,870 will might 1350 01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:17,130 John C Dvorak: lie. I played up to the bullshit pictures and 1351 01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:20,340 somebody sent me I did get a note for somebody regarding that 1352 01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:23,400 girl that they kept showing over and over and over again to being 1353 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,520 taken out of the back of a jeep and then being put in the front 1354 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:27,120 of the Jeep 1355 01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:32,430 Adam Curry: which which which I saw MSNBC claiming she was raped 1356 01:19:32,430 --> 01:19:35,820 and she was bleeding like you have no evidence of that I when 1357 01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:38,460 I saw that first and I'm sorry that you know to bring up this 1358 01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:41,820 is traumatic to see it. It to me it looked like someone who 1359 01:19:41,820 --> 01:19:44,700 crapped their pants because they were so terrified. That's what 1360 01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:49,590 it looked like to me or any other many reasons but it was 1361 01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:50,700 presented as so 1362 01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:52,650 John C Dvorak: she could have been sitting in blood to foil 1363 01:19:52,650 --> 01:19:56,430 you know, it was presented as fact. No, and then they had this 1364 01:19:56,430 --> 01:20:01,740 guy who seemed to be in blackface for some reason. He 1365 01:20:01,740 --> 01:20:06,960 shoots a gun in the air, pulls her out of the back yells. Akbar 1366 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,470 shoots a gun and then puts her in the in the seat in the comfy 1367 01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:14,040 seat. I mean, what was the point of this? And somebody sent a 1368 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,250 note and saying this was a great news. This is low budget 1369 01:20:17,340 --> 01:20:21,990 filmmaking. He says it only cost them one bullet, you know, and a 1370 01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:25,560 day's pay for that a borrowed jeep. I mean, it's just it was 1371 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,120 really kind of crummy. 1372 01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:31,140 Adam Curry: I can hear keyboards clicking don't send that email 1373 01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:35,820 to us. We're just we're just we're just looking at media and 1374 01:20:35,820 --> 01:20:39,720 trying to understand what the messaging is. Not we're not here 1375 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,170 to bring you the truth of what actually happened. We don't have 1376 01:20:43,170 --> 01:20:47,160 it. Nobody does. Exactly. That's the point. But it's being 1377 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,730 presented as fact. We'll continue with your clip here. 1378 01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:53,190 Unknown: The only images we're going to see for the next couple 1379 01:20:53,190 --> 01:20:57,360 of weeks are dead Palestinians. Earlier this year, a Gallup poll 1380 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,880 found that Democrats opinions on Israel have changed 1381 01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,930 significantly. 49% of Democrats now say they sympathize more 1382 01:21:03,930 --> 01:21:07,590 with Palestine, while only 38% say they sympathize more with 1383 01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:10,590 Israel. That's the first time more Democrats have said their 1384 01:21:10,590 --> 01:21:13,200 sympathies are more with Palestine than with Israel. In 1385 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,560 the 20 years the poll has been conducted. Another Democratic 1386 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,560 lawmaker told Politico the key is making sure that the 1387 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,220 sentiment doesn't grow and metastasize. Meanwhile, 1388 01:21:23,220 --> 01:21:26,010 Democratic Representative Rashida to leave is still flying 1389 01:21:26,010 --> 01:21:29,220 the Palestinian flag in front of her office, Republican 1390 01:21:29,220 --> 01:21:33,210 Congressman Max Miller commented on that saying the Palestinian 1391 01:21:33,210 --> 01:21:36,720 flag should not have a place here. That's why I sponsored an 1392 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,470 appropriations amendment to end this silliness under the 1393 01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:43,980 amendment foreign flags couldn't be displayed on Capitol Hill 1394 01:21:44,010 --> 01:21:48,120 Adam Curry: no only pride flags, no problem with it the 1395 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,970 John C Dvorak: same thing when I heard that, but they you know, 1396 01:21:50,970 --> 01:21:55,410 there's a little element here that was kind of not noticed by 1397 01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:58,440 anybody else, which is this this idea that they've been pulling 1398 01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:03,840 Democrats, and now the sympathy for the Israelis is down to 39% 1399 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,860 and a sympathy for the Palestinians up to 49% This is a 1400 01:22:07,860 --> 01:22:13,560 switcheroo. And this may be part of the of the reason to do we're 1401 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,520 going to bomb Iran. We got to do it now. Because this is not 1402 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:23,700 going to go the it's not going to reverse direction. Yes, it's 1403 01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:24,810 clear trend. 1404 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:30,120 Adam Curry: Yeah. That's, that's a good. You know, what also is 1405 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,170 interesting with all these takedowns of misinformation. How 1406 01:22:34,170 --> 01:22:37,260 is it that I'm sure you've seen her? I didn't clip her. There's 1407 01:22:37,260 --> 01:22:42,930 the Israeli blonde Israeli woman, about 3540. Now must she 1408 01:22:42,930 --> 01:22:48,510 must be over 40 Who says 25 years ago, she was you know, in 1409 01:22:48,510 --> 01:22:52,140 service, she was specifically of course, all young people go into 1410 01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:55,920 service in Israel. Then she was in the intelligence division. 1411 01:22:56,070 --> 01:23:00,810 And she's just she's she's doing video after video. After a video 1412 01:23:00,810 --> 01:23:04,440 about how this couldn't happen. There's no way this was a setup. 1413 01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:07,710 This could never happen when she brought in the cat thing again. 1414 01:23:07,950 --> 01:23:12,750 Like you can you can sense a cat. You've got Brett Weinstein 1415 01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:19,800 interviewing her but yet she's allowed to continue explain 1416 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:24,510 that. If she knows this information, why why is she 1417 01:23:24,510 --> 01:23:25,770 still on the air? 1418 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,860 John C Dvorak: Just someone you would take off just because 1419 01:23:30,030 --> 01:23:35,100 Adam Curry: so yeah, and so that she just continues so you cannot 1420 01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:36,900 trust your social media. 1421 01:23:36,990 --> 01:23:42,120 John C Dvorak: Now the media social media. Tell it that all 1422 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:42,930 media Yeah, 1423 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,560 Adam Curry: but but people often are still like, oh, I can still 1424 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,680 get all this on social media. Look, I got the proof. Telegram. 1425 01:23:49,710 --> 01:23:58,410 Wow, it's proof do you remember Yanis Varoufakis Oh, yeah, 1426 01:23:58,410 --> 01:23:58,740 whatever 1427 01:23:58,740 --> 01:24:02,130 John C Dvorak: happened to him? Well, he has a really good to 1428 01:24:02,130 --> 01:24:05,160 tell you about bringing up an old name yes. Yeah, it was one 1429 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,760 of the first guys who was pushed to the curb kicked to the curb. 1430 01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:09,300 So this is 1431 01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:13,710 Adam Curry: when Greece was taken down by the US banks was a 1432 01:24:13,710 --> 01:24:17,160 Goldman and a couple others 1433 01:24:17,580 --> 01:24:20,520 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they the guy in the motorcycle Yes. 1434 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,480 Remember it's not to get it's not the gay social media guy. 1435 01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:25,590 Another guy disappeared. 1436 01:24:27,060 --> 01:24:30,060 Unknown: You're thinking of the case. 1437 01:24:31,980 --> 01:24:34,440 John C Dvorak: Was that guy's name? It wasn't conservative 1438 01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:37,830 with the blonde Yeah, but social media guy got kicked to the curb 1439 01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:42,450 that guy No, this is he was rough and tumble leather wearing 1440 01:24:42,810 --> 01:24:45,120 bike riding American I think you 1441 01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:48,330 Adam Curry: know history. He's Greek mile. You're thinking of 1442 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,170 Yo yo, 1443 01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:53,190 John C Dvorak: Milo now that did this. This great guy ended up at 1444 01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:56,610 the University of Texas I think tape teaching economics, Disney 1445 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,280 Adam Curry: while he's an economics. He's an economist 1446 01:24:59,310 --> 01:25:04,980 economics. Feser and when Greek Greece was being thrust into 1447 01:25:05,130 --> 01:25:08,280 austerity, and we covered all this 2010, I want to say, so 1448 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:13,260 it's quite a while ago. And the Greeks, they, what happened is, 1449 01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:17,490 the bank said, Hey, we're calling in our loan, how you can 1450 01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:21,630 pay for it, austerity for you. And all of the Northern Europe 1451 01:25:21,630 --> 01:25:22,260 hated 1452 01:25:22,290 --> 01:25:25,740 John C Dvorak: this. This was right after the Greeks decided 1453 01:25:25,740 --> 01:25:29,100 to join the Euros, which is their biggest mistake. 1454 01:25:29,370 --> 01:25:33,270 Adam Curry: And people even go into Greek restaurants in like 1455 01:25:33,300 --> 01:25:36,510 Holland and say, I'm not paying, because you screwed us. You 1456 01:25:36,510 --> 01:25:40,050 stole our money. It was horrible. So then this guy who 1457 01:25:40,050 --> 01:25:43,680 and he's a, he's a Marxist, he admits his I'm a socialist, I'm 1458 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,500 a Marxist. But he called he says, in the traditional sense 1459 01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:49,500 of the word, whatever that means, whatever that means. And 1460 01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:54,240 he became the minister of finance for six months. And all 1461 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,630 he did is he just said, no, no more loans. We're not taking any 1462 01:25:57,630 --> 01:26:01,680 more loans, which was probably a good thing for Greece. And then 1463 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,440 his party got kicked out and he got kicked out and get kicked 1464 01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:08,370 out. And, and now, you know, all the wealth is in the north in 1465 01:26:08,370 --> 01:26:11,250 the south of Greece. They're driving around and Lamborghinis. 1466 01:26:11,250 --> 01:26:15,720 And the rest of Greece is just crap. What you get, that's how 1467 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:21,120 it works. They are the ugly stepchild. So Yiannis resurfaces 1468 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,240 with a very interesting book I've been reading called techno 1469 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,920 feudalism. And it kind of folds into, you know, these platforms. 1470 01:26:29,610 --> 01:26:36,270 And he says that capitalism is in essence, over, because 1471 01:26:36,270 --> 01:26:42,810 capitalism is now slave to cloud capitalism. And that is all 1472 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,740 Silicon Valley based, that does not exist anywhere else except 1473 01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:51,180 China. China does have WeChat, that is the big, the big 1474 01:26:51,180 --> 01:26:55,290 competitor to the cloud capitalists here in the US. And 1475 01:26:55,290 --> 01:26:59,160 he has a one minute. He's doing interviews all over YouTube. And 1476 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,040 I've been fascinated by a lot of what he's saying, I don't agree 1477 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,120 with all of it, of course. But this idea, this concept was 1478 01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:10,350 something I think we should, we should think about as we see the 1479 01:27:10,350 --> 01:27:14,340 world unfold, certainly with secret meetings about AI and all 1480 01:27:14,340 --> 01:27:14,820 that crap. 1481 01:27:15,150 --> 01:27:18,480 Unknown: But what does happen is, if you're Jeff Bezos, if you 1482 01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:23,070 are the owner of Google, of Apple, of if you're Elon Musk, 1483 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:28,530 then you own this new form of cloud capital, which allows you 1484 01:27:29,070 --> 01:27:34,200 to extract from the rest of society from proletarians. But 1485 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,370 from everyone else, as well, huge quantities of rents and 1486 01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:43,230 surpluses in a manner that reconsidered is a form of 1487 01:27:43,230 --> 01:27:47,760 feudalism. The difference is that instead of the original 1488 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,600 feudalism, which is a system based on private ownership of 1489 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,530 land, which produces rent, now, it's private ownership of the 1490 01:27:55,530 --> 01:27:58,200 clouds of cloud capital, because the cloud is capital, right? 1491 01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,140 It's not some clouds up in the sky in the sky, which yields 1492 01:28:01,140 --> 01:28:03,900 again, a form of rent every time you buy something from 1493 01:28:03,900 --> 01:28:09,000 amazon.com 40% of what you pay, doesn't go to the capitalist, we 1494 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,970 selling you that stuff. It goes to Jeff Bezos, that's a cloud 1495 01:28:11,970 --> 01:28:14,910 rent and he is a new form of feudal lord. 1496 01:28:15,810 --> 01:28:18,090 I kind of agree with that. Yeah, 1497 01:28:18,150 --> 01:28:22,320 John C Dvorak: well, I sure don't, you don't know. It all 1498 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,090 goes to Jeff Bezos off. 1499 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,400 Adam Curry: I mean, to me, of course, is not the Bezos but he 1500 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:31,290 said it's a public company. But But Amazon, you know that people 1501 01:28:31,290 --> 01:28:35,460 have a very hard time really making profit on Amazon. The 1502 01:28:35,460 --> 01:28:38,610 same thing for Apple, if you want to sell an app 30% You want 1503 01:28:38,610 --> 01:28:41,970 a subscription of something? 30% This is why you can't buy a 1504 01:28:41,970 --> 01:28:46,860 Kindle through the app. on Apple, they are charging rents 1505 01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:49,320 for their platforms. It's true. 1506 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,350 John C Dvorak: It's not saying that that's not true. 1507 01:28:52,350 --> 01:28:55,920 Adam Curry: Forget about the beat down. That's just it's like 1508 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,130 John C Dvorak: minor. I mean, it's like it's like one element 1509 01:28:59,130 --> 01:29:02,880 of the DIS stamp. So this whole idea of what does he call it 1510 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:07,920 kind of capitalism, techno feudalism, techno feudalism that 1511 01:29:08,220 --> 01:29:13,230 this harkens back to the book called surveillance capitalism 1512 01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:16,140 was different little different. I don't think it's that much 1513 01:29:16,140 --> 01:29:20,100 different. It was it's the same kind of condemnation of tech, 1514 01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,730 from a perspective of like, well, these guys have made the 1515 01:29:23,730 --> 01:29:26,940 money that I didn't get to make. It's just kind of a jealous 1516 01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:30,120 mode. Dang, I'm not buying any of it. 1517 01:29:31,260 --> 01:29:34,140 Adam Curry: I think Spotify tried to do this with 1518 01:29:34,140 --> 01:29:35,040 podcasting. 1519 01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:38,580 John C Dvorak: And that's where they got so far they got, but 1520 01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:39,270 that's because of 1521 01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:43,860 Adam Curry: one special thing. The ragtag band of developers at 1522 01:29:43,860 --> 01:29:48,900 podcast index. We wanted their plan single. 1523 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,230 John C Dvorak: How much effort did it take to thwart their 1524 01:29:52,230 --> 01:29:53,670 plan? Not much. 1525 01:29:55,650 --> 01:29:57,450 Adam Curry: Work. Google inherited 1526 01:29:57,450 --> 01:29:59,970 John C Dvorak: the billions that those guys dropped. Google was 1527 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,050 Not much. And 1528 01:30:01,050 --> 01:30:03,480 Adam Curry: that's only well, because of RSS. Google is still 1529 01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:06,900 trying. They're trying to try and keep trying to talk 1530 01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:08,700 everybody into into YouTube. 1531 01:30:09,060 --> 01:30:11,970 John C Dvorak: This is another anti capitalist screed 1532 01:30:12,030 --> 01:30:15,720 definitely heard it before, from a different angle. 1533 01:30:19,980 --> 01:30:24,450 Adam Curry: Anyway, just one quick. So my feeling in general 1534 01:30:24,450 --> 01:30:29,790 is that this is what somebody wants to try and do with AI. And 1535 01:30:29,820 --> 01:30:33,090 I've listened to the whole interview with Sam Altman and 1536 01:30:33,090 --> 01:30:40,800 Joe Rogan. Sam Altman is full of crap. All he says is just AGI it 1537 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,100 will probably be about, you know, three decades. Oh, okay. 1538 01:30:44,370 --> 01:30:47,670 Well, we're once Yeah, it's just they'd be a 30 years we might 1539 01:30:47,670 --> 01:30:52,680 have autonomous generative AI, you know, we'll have 1540 01:30:54,210 --> 01:30:55,830 John C Dvorak: getting closer to the truth, 1541 01:30:55,860 --> 01:31:00,060 Adam Curry: but even then, I mean, it's like, no, none of 1542 01:31:00,060 --> 01:31:02,640 this is happening now. It's all bull. 1543 01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:05,670 John C Dvorak: Well, let me bring us to real bullshit 1544 01:31:05,670 --> 01:31:10,590 artists. Please. You have to go into the last week's archives to 1545 01:31:10,590 --> 01:31:11,670 get three clips. 1546 01:31:11,700 --> 01:31:13,890 Adam Curry: Is it under bullshit? No, 1547 01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,430 John C Dvorak: this should be no This is Maria. ReSSA 1548 01:31:17,940 --> 01:31:22,110 Adam Curry: okay. Oh, yes. on PBS. Oh, you got a three parter. 1549 01:31:22,110 --> 01:31:22,860 I'm excited. 1550 01:31:24,690 --> 01:31:26,670 John C Dvorak: If you want to hear somebody who doesn't know 1551 01:31:26,670 --> 01:31:28,230 what they're talking about, 1552 01:31:28,380 --> 01:31:31,470 Adam Curry: this is PBS. This is great. I love the going on with 1553 01:31:31,470 --> 01:31:31,710 that 1554 01:31:31,710 --> 01:31:34,620 John C Dvorak: black the new black anchor that's there who's 1555 01:31:34,620 --> 01:31:40,470 just seems like a dummy is this seems I was gay or the guy. 1556 01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:43,830 Yeah, that guy seems like a dumb gay guy to me. 1557 01:31:43,919 --> 01:31:46,379 Adam Curry: And I couldn't be there the worst John said. 1558 01:31:47,610 --> 01:31:51,960 John C Dvorak: They're the worst. It's a smart gay guys. So 1559 01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:57,450 this guy's lapping it up. And as you can see it in his eyes. He's 1560 01:31:57,450 --> 01:32:00,060 got this look of Oh my God. Oh, we're all gonna die. 1561 01:32:00,450 --> 01:32:04,200 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on. Let's let's make sure we have America. 1562 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,250 This is NPR or PBS 1563 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,400 Unknown: veteran journalist and past Nobel Peace Prize winner 1564 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,390 Maria ReSSA has a dire warning about the defense of truth in 1565 01:32:15,390 --> 01:32:19,050 the digital age. She says we risk losing the information war 1566 01:32:19,050 --> 01:32:22,050 to adversarial artificial intelligence and to 1567 01:32:22,050 --> 01:32:25,080 authoritarian governments who can weaponize that technology. 1568 01:32:25,380 --> 01:32:29,010 And she's experienced it firsthand. In 2021, she won the 1569 01:32:29,010 --> 01:32:32,130 Nobel Prize for fighting to protect freedom of expression in 1570 01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:35,400 the Philippines under attack by the regime of then President 1571 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,700 Rodrigo de terre Tae Jeff Bennett spoke with rest of this 1572 01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:41,910 week at the inaugural summit of the newly launched Institute of 1573 01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:44,520 global politics at Columbia University. 1574 01:32:44,610 --> 01:32:47,130 Reesa. Thank you so much for speaking with us. I appreciate 1575 01:32:47,130 --> 01:32:49,710 it. Thanks for having you have said the world faces a tech 1576 01:32:49,710 --> 01:32:53,490 enabled Armageddon turbocharged by generative artificial 1577 01:32:53,490 --> 01:32:56,610 intelligence. Invoking Armageddon sort of the final 1578 01:32:56,610 --> 01:32:59,880 battle between good and evil might strike some people as a, 1579 01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:03,840 as an overreach, it might strike some people as being hyperbolic. 1580 01:33:04,140 --> 01:33:06,990 But why in your view, is that an accurate characterization? 1581 01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:10,110 I've lived through this. You know, I never thought I would 1582 01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:13,200 get 10 Arrest warrants in a little over a year, right? I 1583 01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,560 never thought I would have to go to jail. I never thought that we 1584 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:21,030 would tear apart our shared reality and doubt facts, and the 1585 01:33:21,060 --> 01:33:26,130 lies could spread faster than facts. MIT's 2018 Study shows 1586 01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:30,150 lie spread six times faster. And that has turned everything 1587 01:33:30,150 --> 01:33:33,510 upside down. Tech enabled Armageddon, and Rappler the 1588 01:33:33,510 --> 01:33:35,850 organization I read in the Philippines we've been fighting 1589 01:33:35,850 --> 01:33:38,190 for our survival since 2016. 1590 01:33:38,790 --> 01:33:43,650 Adam Curry: Now Wayman, did she get arrested by an AI that he 1591 01:33:43,650 --> 01:33:45,630 John C Dvorak: liked that make you believe that no, she got 1592 01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:49,230 arrested because she was a dissident in in the turkey under 1593 01:33:49,230 --> 01:33:51,570 the turret day when he was running things and he was like, 1594 01:33:51,810 --> 01:33:54,570 putting everyone in jail and so she got arrested and fought the 1595 01:33:54,570 --> 01:33:58,830 government or something and he gets ended up here he's gone. So 1596 01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:02,820 she said okay, well Nobel Peace Prize for being a do gooder. And 1597 01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:06,990 now she's an expert on AI with no tech background whatsoever. 1598 01:34:06,990 --> 01:34:07,320 So what 1599 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,620 Adam Curry: she's doing is she's equating AI with a with a 1600 01:34:11,310 --> 01:34:16,110 dictator. Yeah, who makes unintelligent decisions? 1601 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:17,760 John C Dvorak: I guess. 1602 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,190 Unknown: The fact that we were still 1603 01:34:21,300 --> 01:34:24,300 John C Dvorak: not you brought that up. Why is she on this 1604 01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:28,350 show? being interviewed by PBS breathlessly that's what I'd 1605 01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:30,720 like to know. Oh, come on. An expert. 1606 01:34:31,050 --> 01:34:34,080 Adam Curry: Doesn't matter. Who isn't. Who is the expert on AI? 1607 01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,470 Elon, well, she's not they can't get Elon Musk. Sam Altman. He's 1608 01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:43,650 boring. He's boring. Well, this 1609 01:34:43,650 --> 01:34:44,550 John C Dvorak: girl is kind of boring. 1610 01:34:44,580 --> 01:34:46,500 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, here we go. 1611 01:34:46,710 --> 01:34:50,910 Unknown: The fact that we were still here shows you that doing 1612 01:34:50,910 --> 01:34:55,200 the right thing is the right thing. But it's going to get 1613 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,020 worse. So the first time that you had, 1614 01:34:58,470 --> 01:35:01,110 Adam Curry: I'm sorry, the revenue ation of doing the right 1615 01:35:01,110 --> 01:35:03,750 thing is the right thing. It is the right 1616 01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:05,640 John C Dvorak: thing, and it's gonna get worse. You bet 1617 01:35:05,670 --> 01:35:07,770 Unknown: it's going to get worse. So the 1618 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:10,260 John C Dvorak: not You bet. 1619 01:35:10,559 --> 01:35:16,859 Adam Curry: Oh, I cannot believe it. The jury will disregard my 1620 01:35:17,279 --> 01:35:18,869 bet it's Yep. Yep, had 1621 01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:22,230 Unknown: humanity con. First contact with AI is really 1622 01:35:22,230 --> 01:35:25,590 machine learning when everything that you post on social media. 1623 01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:28,140 So this is social media, right? Everything you post is pulled 1624 01:35:28,140 --> 01:35:31,380 together by machine learning. And then that's used to build a 1625 01:35:31,380 --> 01:35:33,930 model of you that knows you better than you know yourself. 1626 01:35:34,500 --> 01:35:38,760 Replace the word model with clone. So we're cloned, then AI 1627 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:42,600 comes in and takes all of our clones, puts it together in a 1628 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,990 mother lode database. That's what's used to my does Oracle 1629 01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:49,110 Adam Curry: make that the mother lode database is that I think 1630 01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:50,430 mother lode database 1631 01:35:50,430 --> 01:35:52,320 John C Dvorak: is a great name for a product. 1632 01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:57,780 Adam Curry: You've heard of Ms. SQL, this is the mother lode 1633 01:35:57,780 --> 01:35:59,400 database, puts it together 1634 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,040 Unknown: in a mother lode database, that's what's used to 1635 01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:06,390 micro target. micro targeting is not the same as media 1636 01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:07,110 advertising, 1637 01:36:07,230 --> 01:36:10,110 Adam Curry: that she's literally describing data brokers, it 1638 01:36:10,110 --> 01:36:12,720 already exists, lady, it's not AI, 1639 01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:15,300 Unknown: media advertising, you see the same things, right? But 1640 01:36:15,300 --> 01:36:19,860 micro targeting sells your weakest moment to a message to 1641 01:36:19,860 --> 01:36:23,250 someone who will pay for it. And that could be a company or that 1642 01:36:23,250 --> 01:36:26,880 could be a government. Right? Right? That right? Not just you. 1643 01:36:26,910 --> 01:36:31,470 And when it becomes relentless, it becomes Information 1644 01:36:31,500 --> 01:36:35,820 Operations. Those vulnerabilities in the tech 1645 01:36:35,820 --> 01:36:40,230 platforms have been exploited by geopolitical power your America 1646 01:36:40,230 --> 01:36:46,410 in 20 1600 26 million Americans were impacted were touch by 1647 01:36:46,410 --> 01:36:49,200 Russia, Russia and information works. 1648 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:57,900 Adam Curry: Nice. Oh, my goodness, this is all these 1649 01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:01,590 platforms are gonna suck. Everything's gonna suck. 1650 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:03,360 mastered 1651 01:37:03,630 --> 01:37:06,300 John C Dvorak: the idea of micro targeting, which is you know, 1652 01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:12,600 targeted advertising. Hello, 98 Hello, right Hello 1970 For that 1653 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:13,740 matter way I first 1654 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,750 Adam Curry: I'm gonna get my milk is going to be ordered the 1655 01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:18,750 minutes out in my fridge, it's going to be so smart the world 1656 01:37:18,750 --> 01:37:20,670 would be groovy micro targeting. 1657 01:37:22,110 --> 01:37:27,090 John C Dvorak: So she's bringing this back to the 2022 era. And 1658 01:37:27,210 --> 01:37:30,660 it's just unbelievable to me that this is being played on. 1659 01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:35,610 PBS should be ashamed of itself. For letting this woman ramble 1660 01:37:35,610 --> 01:37:38,160 like this. She's not saying anything that means anything. 1661 01:37:38,190 --> 01:37:40,110 This is all bullshit. 1662 01:37:40,380 --> 01:37:42,630 Unknown: You know, there are US officials, there are tech 1663 01:37:42,630 --> 01:37:46,230 leaders who have said that the future of this country looks 1664 01:37:46,230 --> 01:37:50,760 fairly bleak if China finds a way to develop AI technology 1665 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:54,780 faster than we do. So how do we on the one hand, continue to 1666 01:37:54,780 --> 01:37:59,400 innovate, but on the other hand, implement solutions that don't 1667 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,340 strangle the innovation that we're trying to unleash. 1668 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:07,350 Ironically, China, which is far from Democratic, has put 1669 01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:11,550 guardrails in place around that. Yes. And they're large language 1670 01:38:11,550 --> 01:38:14,370 models, right? Right. While America says that 1671 01:38:14,370 --> 01:38:18,180 Adam Curry: just just to say, on their large language models, 1672 01:38:18,180 --> 01:38:22,980 right, it's like telling me, we all agree, China has large 1673 01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:24,720 language models, they put it 1674 01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,970 John C Dvorak: down and they put guard rails around it in the 1675 01:38:26,970 --> 01:38:30,990 mother lode. Now, a journalist would be sitting there would 1676 01:38:31,110 --> 01:38:34,380 say, Well, what specifically are those guardrails and how do they 1677 01:38:34,380 --> 01:38:34,950 work? 1678 01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:38,460 Adam Curry: What are you You don't think that that's going to 1679 01:38:38,460 --> 01:38:40,680 come out of PBS as a question to you. 1680 01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,990 John C Dvorak: I think at some in some future world maybe 1681 01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:49,110 Adam Curry: this we need to write we asked world breed need 1682 01:38:49,140 --> 01:38:53,100 a list of all these AI bullcrap words that Sam Alban, 1683 01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:56,370 guardrails, guardrails? Yeah, like the guard rails guard 1684 01:38:56,370 --> 01:38:59,580 rails? Yeah, guard rails, they really were. Yeah, that's a good 1685 01:38:59,580 --> 01:39:01,530 point. What are the guard rails? 1686 01:39:02,700 --> 01:39:04,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah, what are they and how do they work? 1687 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,810 Because it doesn't make sense to even say that. 1688 01:39:09,090 --> 01:39:12,240 Unknown: has put guard rails in place around that, right? Yes, 1689 01:39:12,270 --> 01:39:14,730 yeah. On their large language models, right, right. 1690 01:39:15,300 --> 01:39:19,470 Adam Curry: No, no, no evidence, no stories on or anything about 1691 01:39:19,470 --> 01:39:22,560 this guardrails around their large language models right in 1692 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:23,670 the mother lode database. 1693 01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:27,540 Unknown: While America says that remember, these companies are 1694 01:39:27,540 --> 01:39:33,990 driven by profit, surveillance capitalism. Large language 1695 01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:38,790 models will have the ability to mimic you, it mimics humanity. 1696 01:39:38,970 --> 01:39:43,650 And when that happens, it also doesn't tell you it lies. It 1697 01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:48,780 looks for patterns. It doesn't necessarily find meaning. That's 1698 01:39:48,780 --> 01:39:52,200 what we've lost here. And if you look at the two ways aI have 1699 01:39:52,230 --> 01:39:57,360 touched us, the first time it exploited our fear, anger and 1700 01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:57,660 hate. 1701 01:39:59,070 --> 01:40:02,580 Adam Curry: I'm going to agree It mimics humanity. It lies. 1702 01:40:02,580 --> 01:40:06,270 Yeah, cuz we're all liars. Of course. This is no this is not 1703 01:40:06,270 --> 01:40:07,470 great, man. 1704 01:40:08,610 --> 01:40:11,580 John C Dvorak: Okay did lie without having AI. Yeah. 1705 01:40:13,290 --> 01:40:18,240 Adam Curry: I was looking at photos. Where's it here? I put 1706 01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:18,690 it in the show 1707 01:40:18,690 --> 01:40:19,800 John C Dvorak: notes at the end of that clip. 1708 01:40:20,009 --> 01:40:20,999 Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the other clip. 1709 01:40:21,269 --> 01:40:24,089 John C Dvorak: Yeah it went on there was there was telling 1710 01:40:24,089 --> 01:40:25,379 people you want to go look it up here. 1711 01:40:25,409 --> 01:40:30,119 Adam Curry: Let me see there's this Associated Press Photo. Man 1712 01:40:30,119 --> 01:40:38,189 it was of a black lives matter. protest. And it's completely AI 1713 01:40:38,189 --> 01:40:41,819 there's people with six fingers. There's there's a guy in the 1714 01:40:41,819 --> 01:40:45,329 background whose eyes like bulging and all blurred into his 1715 01:40:45,329 --> 01:40:45,809 Hey, 1716 01:40:45,810 --> 01:40:47,340 John C Dvorak: love the bulging eyes, it's 1717 01:40:47,370 --> 01:40:50,430 Adam Curry: been, it's the six finger thing. It's just it's not 1718 01:40:50,430 --> 01:40:54,510 going away. AI is just not great. Show me a picture with 1719 01:40:54,990 --> 01:40:57,360 well, it should be four fingers on the thumb. But you know what 1720 01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:04,680 I'm saying? It's not it's just not great. It's people are 1721 01:41:05,250 --> 01:41:09,570 people fall for it. I'm telling you that I am going to I'm going 1722 01:41:09,570 --> 01:41:12,360 to save the world for 3% of the people will be saved by our 1723 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:17,400 systems that we create with RSS. Just 3% and everyone else is 1724 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:21,660 going to be a bloody good number that's about and that's about 1725 01:41:21,660 --> 01:41:24,630 what I think I can save. Is that good enough for a Nobel Peace 1726 01:41:24,630 --> 01:41:25,080 Prize? 1727 01:41:27,090 --> 01:41:32,010 John C Dvorak: Well, we had to exaggerate the lie. AI does have 1728 01:41:32,010 --> 01:41:35,670 to lie, to lie, but we can manage it. 1729 01:41:35,700 --> 01:41:38,550 Adam Curry: Here's an example of a human being lying. This is a 1730 01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:45,690 great example. This is again Rear Admiral Kirby. And he is 1731 01:41:45,690 --> 01:41:50,010 asked a question about the President's thinking. But he's 1732 01:41:50,010 --> 01:41:52,920 very clear in his obvious lie. 1733 01:41:53,220 --> 01:41:55,920 Unknown: I want to play this soundbite for you that is just 1734 01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:00,300 last month and Vietnam and ask you if this still holds for the 1735 01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:04,710 President watch. The only existential 1736 01:42:04,710 --> 01:42:11,010 threat humanity faces even more frightening than nuclear war. is 1737 01:42:11,370 --> 01:42:16,410 global warming going above 1.5 degrees in the next 2010 years. 1738 01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:20,190 Given all the nuclear players in these two areas where we are now 1739 01:42:20,190 --> 01:42:22,680 engaged on does the President stand by that comment? 1740 01:42:22,980 --> 01:42:25,740 Absolutely does climate change is an existential threat, it 1741 01:42:26,970 --> 01:42:30,150 actually threatens and is capable wiping out all human 1742 01:42:30,150 --> 01:42:32,820 life on Earth. Time. I mean, that's 1743 01:42:34,710 --> 01:42:37,410 Adam Curry: global warming climate change is in competition 1744 01:42:37,410 --> 01:42:39,750 with AI who's going to kill us faster 1745 01:42:39,780 --> 01:42:42,900 Unknown: human life on earth over time. I mean, that's I 1746 01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:45,030 don't know how more existential, you get to that. But that 1747 01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:47,850 doesn't mean that we walk away from our obligations, or our 1748 01:42:47,850 --> 01:42:50,460 national security interests in very dangerous parts of the 1749 01:42:50,460 --> 01:42:50,760 time. 1750 01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:56,760 He said it was more frightening than a nuclear war, is that it's 1751 01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,820 more frightening than a nuclear war in this moment. 1752 01:43:00,330 --> 01:43:03,270 The President believes wholeheartedly that climate 1753 01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:06,630 change is an existential threat to the all human life on the 1754 01:43:06,630 --> 01:43:10,830 planet. That's just science. That's a fact, Martha Beck on 1755 01:43:10,830 --> 01:43:13,890 the other challenges facing this country and our allies and 1756 01:43:13,890 --> 01:43:14,880 partners around the world, 1757 01:43:14,910 --> 01:43:16,350 Adam Curry: that's just science and focus, 1758 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:18,390 John C Dvorak: tip of the day for that peace. 1759 01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:22,290 Adam Curry: Just science, in fact, Martha, that's all but it 1760 01:43:22,290 --> 01:43:26,040 is. I don't like that you disparage my clip that way, but 1761 01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:31,770 I'll take the award. Thank you. And the fact that her name is 1762 01:43:31,770 --> 01:43:34,620 Martha makes it better. That's just science. In fact, Martha 1763 01:43:35,970 --> 01:43:39,000 John C Dvorak: teaches science in fact, wrong. It's just 1764 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,450 science, in fact that we're all gonna die from global warming. 1765 01:43:42,780 --> 01:43:45,930 Adam Curry: We're not because we're going to save the world. 1766 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,870 No, we're gonna save the world with carbon credits and right on 1767 01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:51,780 cue as predicted on the wait, wait, 1768 01:43:52,140 --> 01:43:54,660 John C Dvorak: carbon credits, does that change the mnemonic 1769 01:43:54,660 --> 01:43:56,340 carbon is released? 1770 01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,550 Adam Curry: Why are you trying to be difficult? Just sit back 1771 01:43:59,550 --> 01:44:04,200 and relax and take the propaganda. Do you remember I 1772 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:08,370 had the clips from the big climate change conference in in 1773 01:44:08,370 --> 01:44:14,910 Africa. And they were talking about land being carbon sink. So 1774 01:44:14,940 --> 01:44:19,320 you know, if you own a piece of land in Africa, you can turn 1775 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:20,640 that into a carbon credit. 1776 01:44:21,090 --> 01:44:22,110 John C Dvorak: Yum. Well, what is 1777 01:44:23,820 --> 01:44:27,450 Adam Curry: the United Arab Emirates has inked a deal to buy 1778 01:44:27,450 --> 01:44:32,700 a fifth? That's 20% of Zimbabwe's land, four carbon 1779 01:44:32,700 --> 01:44:39,120 credits. This is great. 7.5 million hectares 1780 01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,100 John C Dvorak: is one born every minute. 1781 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,710 Adam Curry: What is 7.5 million hectares is a hectare. It's 1782 01:44:46,710 --> 01:44:51,000 John C Dvorak: about 14 acres. 14 acres and LinkedIn I think is 1783 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,750 up to date tickets. It's like for two acres proximately two a 1784 01:44:54,750 --> 01:44:55,260 hectare. 1785 01:44:57,750 --> 01:45:01,350 Adam Curry: So there it is. I'll look it up. The flurry so it's 1786 01:45:01,380 --> 01:45:06,750 Oh, it's okay. The global $2 billion Voluntary Carbon Offset 1787 01:45:06,750 --> 01:45:11,850 market allows carbon emitters to offset emissions by purchasing 1788 01:45:11,850 --> 01:45:15,600 credits from emission reducing projects primarily in forest 1789 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,580 conservation. So 1790 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,390 John C Dvorak: I'm okay hectares 2.47 acres. 1791 01:45:21,540 --> 01:45:24,150 Adam Curry: So if I have three acres here could I turn that 1792 01:45:24,150 --> 01:45:29,370 into a carbon credit? Yeah, how much? Not much but I could Chem 1793 01:45:29,370 --> 01:45:31,080 bucks it's like a Bitcoin 1794 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,020 John C Dvorak: I don't think it's worth a Bitcoin No, but 1795 01:45:34,020 --> 01:45:37,830 Adam Curry: it's like a Bitcoin you just you just say well, I do 1796 01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:39,210 I got this I got this stuff. Oh, 1797 01:45:39,210 --> 01:45:42,270 John C Dvorak: yeah, you make it Yeah. But everyone get for it. 1798 01:45:42,420 --> 01:45:42,660 And if 1799 01:45:42,660 --> 01:45:45,330 Adam Curry: I plant a tree, another carbon credit and your 1800 01:45:45,330 --> 01:45:50,880 gold we should have been doing this a long time ago. We really 1801 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:51,390 should have 1802 01:45:54,510 --> 01:45:56,010 John C Dvorak: the bank money in the bank. 1803 01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:59,520 Adam Curry: So very sad isn't we should take a break but very sad 1804 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:06,510 for this next person. This although, boy timing is 1805 01:46:06,510 --> 01:46:14,460 everything. This this 911 10 times worse than 911, which is 1806 01:46:14,490 --> 01:46:17,670 almost as bad as January 6 could not have come at a worst time 1807 01:46:17,670 --> 01:46:19,830 for this announcement, a new curveball 1808 01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:23,310 Unknown: in the race for president to declare myself an 1809 01:46:23,310 --> 01:46:28,920 independent ganda. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Leaving the 1810 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,560 Democratic Party to run as an independent 1811 01:46:32,010 --> 01:46:32,760 Adam Curry: What are you drinking? 1812 01:46:34,710 --> 01:46:37,740 John C Dvorak: It's the polar just a plain polar seltzer get a 1813 01:46:37,740 --> 01:46:39,090 few more cans of this left 1814 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,550 Adam Curry: because I opened one earlier you didn't you didn't 1815 01:46:42,030 --> 01:46:47,730 mention here it oh, I'm drinking a source Perrier lime. From the 1816 01:46:47,730 --> 01:46:48,090 camp 1817 01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,060 John C Dvorak: lime ladies and gentlemen, very you know if 1818 01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:56,430 anyone can find a blue bottles of Perrier lightly carbonated 1819 01:46:56,460 --> 01:47:00,660 tastes just like low bad to wipe my favorite sparkling beverage? 1820 01:47:00,660 --> 01:47:00,810 Oh 1821 01:47:00,810 --> 01:47:04,710 Adam Curry: no Budweiser like boudoir. Like big bad dua. No, 1822 01:47:04,710 --> 01:47:06,300 no be de Lobi day. 1823 01:47:06,540 --> 01:47:08,880 John C Dvorak: I don't want to drink low bid day. 1824 01:47:10,140 --> 01:47:12,480 Adam Curry: The Democrats are frightened that I'm gonna spoil 1825 01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:15,780 the election for President Biden and the Republicans are 1826 01:47:15,780 --> 01:47:21,870 frightened that I'm gonna spoil it for President Trump. The 1827 01:47:21,870 --> 01:47:23,910 truth is, they're both right. 1828 01:47:24,180 --> 01:47:25,170 Unknown: Back in April, he 1829 01:47:25,170 --> 01:47:28,680 launched a longshot bid for the Democratic nomination. But his 1830 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,680 position on vaccines and abortion were out of the party's 1831 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:35,130 mainstream his own siblings denouncing his run as an 1832 01:47:35,130 --> 01:47:38,400 independent saying Bobby might share the same name as our 1833 01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:42,150 father but he does not share the same values vision or judgment. 1834 01:47:42,180 --> 01:47:45,030 We denounce his candidacy and believe it to be perilous for 1835 01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:45,780 our country. 1836 01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:47,430 denounce him. 1837 01:47:48,810 --> 01:47:51,240 John C Dvorak: denounce your own you know, what are your own 1838 01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:53,580 members of your own family? It's disgusting 1839 01:47:53,610 --> 01:47:57,090 Adam Curry: was pretty bad. But this is not good for it. I mean, 1840 01:47:57,780 --> 01:48:00,690 John C Dvorak: the timing sodomy is horrible, but this is also 1841 01:48:00,690 --> 01:48:04,050 done this like a week ago or maybe a month from now? It 1842 01:48:04,050 --> 01:48:06,840 wouldn't it wouldn't have mattered by the way. I was gonna 1843 01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,980 say that report indicates that he was thwarted. They did 1844 01:48:10,980 --> 01:48:14,100 without going into any details. There hasn't even doesn't been 1845 01:48:14,130 --> 01:48:17,400 the Democratic Convention yet. There hasn't been any primaries. 1846 01:48:17,460 --> 01:48:20,970 Adam Curry: Well, he he can't get in. He can't he can't even 1847 01:48:20,970 --> 01:48:22,230 get in the primary lock 1848 01:48:22,230 --> 01:48:24,390 John C Dvorak: him out is what she should what she should have 1849 01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:25,620 said yes, I locked him 1850 01:48:25,620 --> 01:48:30,450 Adam Curry: out. Eyes. I mean, there's still a lot of time a 1851 01:48:30,450 --> 01:48:35,790 lot of things can happen. But I see no reason why the military 1852 01:48:35,790 --> 01:48:39,690 industrial complex, the financial, which is same as the 1853 01:48:39,690 --> 01:48:44,460 financial complex. Maybe this is why Steve Steve Scalise Vegas 1854 01:48:44,460 --> 01:48:46,830 possibly can become the new Speaker of the House. 1855 01:48:47,370 --> 01:48:49,440 John C Dvorak: We that was my assertion to him was your 1856 01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:51,840 assertion. It was yours. But you know, hey, you 1857 01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,580 Adam Curry: know he's got cancer. Wow, we can't have that 1858 01:48:53,580 --> 01:48:59,070 guy with cancer. Well get rid of Raskin then to come on. This is 1859 01:48:59,070 --> 01:49:01,890 what kind of acts we kind of that's that's probably the one 1860 01:49:01,890 --> 01:49:06,660 of the most demoralizing things you can say. Hey, ma'am. I'm 1861 01:49:06,660 --> 01:49:11,220 sorry. You can't run because you got cancer. I mean, people 1862 01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:17,970 survive. People live with him. Just an Marjorie Taylor Greene. 1863 01:49:19,110 --> 01:49:21,660 Notice my voice going up when I say your name, Marjorie Taylor. 1864 01:49:22,050 --> 01:49:24,630 But you do that all the time with Marjorie Taylor Greene why 1865 01:49:24,630 --> 01:49:29,010 she do it up? Oh, no, no, no, he's got cancer. Oh, no, we 1866 01:49:29,010 --> 01:49:32,310 can't have him do he might die before he can sign more money 1867 01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:33,690 for Ukraine and Israel? 1868 01:49:34,890 --> 01:49:37,320 John C Dvorak: Well, they have to put him in my thesis because 1869 01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,620 he's all pro giving more money to Ukraine. Yet while he was 1870 01:49:40,650 --> 01:49:44,370 marginally, Marjorie, Democrats should put him in. I mean, it 1871 01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:48,510 just takes like 50 of them to say yeah, and the whole thing 1872 01:49:48,510 --> 01:49:49,140 goes through 1873 01:49:49,170 --> 01:49:52,890 Adam Curry: how much do you think? So I I think that 24 1874 01:49:52,890 --> 01:49:56,130 billion for Ukraine. I mean, the public money, right? This is 1875 01:49:56,130 --> 01:49:59,190 just the stuff that they'll tell us. I think that will now have 1876 01:49:59,190 --> 01:50:04,500 to move to 50 And I think Israel, I think we go to 400 1877 01:50:04,500 --> 01:50:06,450 billion, just for starters. 1878 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:09,720 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's too much. They don't need that much 1879 01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:14,160 money down there for Iran. Well, no, Ron's different. If that 1880 01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,830 happens, then they have to start putting money down there. 1881 01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:20,010 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what it's for. That'd be great. And 1882 01:50:20,130 --> 01:50:22,800 who do we actually need to take out? What do we need to do in 1883 01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:23,580 Iran to 1884 01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:28,230 John C Dvorak: Toy need to low flying jets and Hello, flying 1885 01:50:28,230 --> 01:50:30,690 jets and bombs and there's a neighborhood where all the 1886 01:50:30,690 --> 01:50:34,170 mullahs live is known fact they live in these mansions in some 1887 01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,710 kind of walled garden neighborhood. And you just go in 1888 01:50:37,710 --> 01:50:40,410 there and bomb all their houses and then fly back and say, I 1889 01:50:40,410 --> 01:50:41,520 don't know what happened. You just 1890 01:50:41,940 --> 01:50:44,220 Adam Curry: hired you just got us fired as the courier Devorah 1891 01:50:44,220 --> 01:50:47,580 Consulting Group. This is not the right answer. How do we get 1892 01:50:47,790 --> 01:50:49,620 real money out of it? Some real 1893 01:50:49,620 --> 01:50:51,240 John C Dvorak: Whoa, yeah, there's not real money to do 1894 01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,780 well. Yeah, good question. Good point. 1895 01:50:56,130 --> 01:51:00,060 Adam Curry: It's not cheap to send a aircraft carrier down 1896 01:51:00,060 --> 01:51:00,420 there. 1897 01:51:01,110 --> 01:51:03,090 John C Dvorak: No, that's expensive. It's very expensive, 1898 01:51:03,090 --> 01:51:05,970 and they're gonna send another group. I don't have the clip. 1899 01:51:06,150 --> 01:51:11,130 But somebody else came on one of the shows another action arm. Of 1900 01:51:11,130 --> 01:51:14,430 course, he says, yeah, and they got to another group going in 1901 01:51:14,430 --> 01:51:18,420 and reported jumped on him and go, what this is news jet. Tell 1902 01:51:18,420 --> 01:51:21,870 me more. And they gave him no bah bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. 1903 01:51:23,970 --> 01:51:26,010 That's good. That's good. It was pretty funny. 1904 01:51:27,060 --> 01:51:30,030 Adam Curry: So the other scandal what was the other scandal wiped 1905 01:51:30,030 --> 01:51:33,540 from the front pages? So many people benefit from this? Never 1906 01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:41,100 let a crisis go to waste. Menendez. Menendez don't even 1907 01:51:41,130 --> 01:51:44,430 Don't talk about him anymore. Bob Menendez and his corruption 1908 01:51:44,430 --> 01:51:45,060 scandal, 1909 01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:47,580 John C Dvorak: though he's a total criminal. 1910 01:51:47,730 --> 01:51:50,190 Adam Curry: Well, do you remember what I said? 1911 01:51:51,690 --> 01:51:52,560 John C Dvorak: No, I do not. 1912 01:51:52,589 --> 01:51:55,559 Adam Curry: I said his wife is the problem. Yes, you 1913 01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:56,790 John C Dvorak: did say that. I remember that. 1914 01:51:57,059 --> 01:51:59,669 Unknown: This is the second time he's been indicted in the last 1915 01:51:59,699 --> 01:52:03,179 eight years and report suggests that Menendez his wife played a 1916 01:52:03,179 --> 01:52:09,959 major role in his murky deals. Menendez med he's Armenian 1917 01:52:09,959 --> 01:52:12,629 American while studying ARSLANIAN at a restaurant in 1918 01:52:12,629 --> 01:52:16,799 2018 and got married in 2020. Prosecutors claim she played a 1919 01:52:16,799 --> 01:52:19,769 key role in collecting hundreds of 1000s of dollars worth of 1920 01:52:19,769 --> 01:52:23,069 bribes from three New Jersey businessmen seeking help from 1921 01:52:23,069 --> 01:52:26,819 the powerful lawmaker. Her role was so vital that she was the 1922 01:52:26,819 --> 01:52:29,459 one who introduced Menendez to parties connected to the 1923 01:52:29,459 --> 01:52:32,849 Egyptian government. According to the indictment document. The 1924 01:52:32,849 --> 01:52:35,789 filing also states that Nadine was unemployed before they met 1925 01:52:35,819 --> 01:52:38,609 but the following year, she incorporated a new consulting 1926 01:52:38,609 --> 01:52:42,989 company strategic international business consultants LLC. After 1927 01:52:42,989 --> 01:52:45,899 their marriage in 2020. She came into possession of a large 1928 01:52:45,929 --> 01:52:48,959 amount of gold. She later sold some of the bars for between 1929 01:52:48,959 --> 01:52:52,949 200,000 to $400,000, according to the senators financial 1930 01:52:52,949 --> 01:52:59,849 disclosure reports. Now here's a bit of context, Menendez was the 1931 01:52:59,849 --> 01:53:02,579 chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee until the 1932 01:53:02,579 --> 01:53:05,549 investigation became public. That post gave him a lot of 1933 01:53:05,549 --> 01:53:09,359 influence in US foreign policy. This is where wire Hannah comes 1934 01:53:09,359 --> 01:53:12,329 in. Nadine and Hannah were friends for years before her 1935 01:53:12,329 --> 01:53:15,359 marriage to Menendez. According to the indictment, Hannah helped 1936 01:53:15,389 --> 01:53:18,479 arrange meetings and dinners between Menendez, Nadine and 1937 01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,509 Egyptian military and intelligence officials. This was 1938 01:53:21,509 --> 01:53:24,599 part of a covert initiative aimed at using the Senator's 1939 01:53:24,599 --> 01:53:28,379 influence to boost US aid to Egypt. After one of these 1940 01:53:28,379 --> 01:53:32,069 meetings in 2018, Menendez texted his wife telling her to 1941 01:53:32,069 --> 01:53:35,249 inform her that he would sign off and a multimillion dollar 1942 01:53:35,249 --> 01:53:36,539 weapons sale to Egypt. 1943 01:53:37,290 --> 01:53:40,740 Adam Curry: Menendez should not be impeached for corruption but 1944 01:53:40,740 --> 01:53:44,880 for being an idiot this woman snookered him in 1945 01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:48,660 John C Dvorak: you know, I don't know that this is really what 1946 01:53:48,690 --> 01:53:52,020 this sounds to me like you're putting out a story that 1947 01:53:52,020 --> 01:53:59,280 parallels the Biden story with his son you it's his fault. And 1948 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:03,090 I think that's a judgment puts in my mind I have a clip. New 1949 01:54:03,090 --> 01:54:04,380 bad stuff about Biden, 1950 01:54:05,250 --> 01:54:08,490 Adam Curry: Biden, hey, screw the war in Israel. We've got the 1951 01:54:08,490 --> 01:54:10,920 Biden and Menendez stuff for you right here. 1952 01:54:11,129 --> 01:54:14,039 Unknown: You record show that President Biden was involved in 1953 01:54:14,039 --> 01:54:17,999 his son and brother's businesses as vice president, America first 1954 01:54:17,999 --> 01:54:21,239 Lego published the records from the National Archives following 1955 01:54:21,239 --> 01:54:25,199 a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. National Archives 1956 01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:28,229 Records show that then Vice President Biden's office 1957 01:54:28,259 --> 01:54:32,069 exchanged over 19,000 emails with Hunter Biden's is missed 1958 01:54:32,069 --> 01:54:36,089 confirm Rosemont Seneca over 4000 emails with Hunter Biden 1959 01:54:36,089 --> 01:54:40,559 himself over 1700 emails with his brother James Biden, and 1960 01:54:40,559 --> 01:54:44,429 over 3700 emails was James Biden's lie in whole group. 1961 01:54:44,699 --> 01:54:48,359 Biden has previously claimed he was not involved in his son and 1962 01:54:48,359 --> 01:54:51,899 brothers business dealings. America first legal said on X 1963 01:54:51,899 --> 01:54:55,079 today, quote, There was extensive commingling between 1964 01:54:55,079 --> 01:54:57,629 them. The House Oversight Committee which has been 1965 01:54:57,629 --> 01:55:00,809 investigating the Biden's family business dealings is also 1966 01:55:00,809 --> 01:55:04,259 commented saying Biden's statement quote doesn't match 1967 01:55:04,259 --> 01:55:05,639 his track record 1968 01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:15,390 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. You know, I don't think anyone can say that 1969 01:55:15,390 --> 01:55:18,570 they don't feel much better after just listening to this to 1970 01:55:18,570 --> 01:55:23,100 this hour and 50 minutes of the no agenda show. I mean, you're 1971 01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:26,550 not I hope so you're not all spun up you're not all worried 1972 01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:29,790 about tomorrow. Tomorrow all it's gonna be attacks everywhere 1973 01:55:29,790 --> 01:55:31,230 in America tomorrow. Yeah, 1974 01:55:31,230 --> 01:55:33,060 John C Dvorak: we're going to be attacked any minute today. These 1975 01:55:33,060 --> 01:55:35,430 guys are going to come in with you know, somehow they're going 1976 01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:36,510 to swim over. 1977 01:55:37,140 --> 01:55:39,450 Adam Curry: Now they're coming across the border. Coming right 1978 01:55:39,450 --> 01:55:39,720 up to 1979 01:55:40,500 --> 01:55:42,510 John C Dvorak: the Bahamas. How do you get to Mexico without 1980 01:55:42,510 --> 01:55:43,200 swimming by 1981 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,390 Adam Curry: coming right up through Fredericksburg. No. 1982 01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:47,100 Stopping when you 1983 01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:51,180 John C Dvorak: see him? Yeah, well, you mentioned that you 1984 01:55:51,180 --> 01:55:54,720 were we're talking about some buddy wanted to send us some 1985 01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:58,770 clips from somebody we won't even mentioned his name. A guy 1986 01:55:58,770 --> 01:56:04,320 who is a well respected or not well respected but a well 1987 01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:10,200 followed. Guy as on the on the YouTube and everyplace else and, 1988 01:56:10,650 --> 01:56:14,100 and I said that we don't play this guy's clip. Charlie Kirk. 1989 01:56:14,610 --> 01:56:18,060 Oh, that's who it was Charlie Kirk. And you said well, he just 1990 01:56:18,060 --> 01:56:23,790 came into Canterbury gave us beach and they got all the local 1991 01:56:23,790 --> 01:56:26,040 women all jacked up. 1992 01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:28,890 Adam Curry: We were supposed to go. But I don't it's something 1993 01:56:29,130 --> 01:56:33,750 that somehow that didn't happen. And it was a I think it was to 1994 01:56:33,750 --> 01:56:40,050 raise money for the Tea Party, which I guess still exist. And 1995 01:56:40,710 --> 01:56:43,890 brother, so I don't know. And I have nothing against Charlie 1996 01:56:43,890 --> 01:56:45,180 Kirk. Personally, he's probably 1997 01:56:45,180 --> 01:56:48,270 John C Dvorak: he's he's a very easy, very sharp, very sharp 1998 01:56:48,270 --> 01:56:48,570 guy. 1999 01:56:48,660 --> 01:56:52,170 Adam Curry: But everybody everybody came back so riled up. 2000 01:56:52,980 --> 01:56:54,870 There's Oh, ha ha. 2001 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:58,200 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've heard some of his stuff he gets it 2002 01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,800 says like he does it on purpose. He gets people's like you said 2003 01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:06,960 spun up. Yeah. And this is not this is not good. We're like 2004 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:07,860 Xanax. 2005 01:57:11,340 --> 01:57:12,090 Unknown: Amen. 2006 01:57:13,950 --> 01:57:15,750 Adam Curry: With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in 2007 01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:17,820 the morning to you the man who put the season in the Christ 2008 01:57:17,820 --> 01:57:19,830 caulk ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other 2009 01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:22,470 end one only Mr. John Cena 2010 01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,190 John C Dvorak: Morning Mr. Schiff see boots on the ground 2011 01:57:29,190 --> 01:57:31,860 feet in the air subs in the water. And all the games and 2012 01:57:31,860 --> 01:57:33,360 nights out there in the morning to 2013 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,780 Unknown: the trolls and the troll Joe can be counted around 2014 01:57:39,210 --> 01:57:44,550 Adam Curry: 2074 2000 Write that down to 1000s I have a notebook 2015 01:57:44,550 --> 01:57:44,670 I 2016 01:57:44,670 --> 01:57:46,530 John C Dvorak: 2074. Yeah, 2017 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:51,570 Adam Curry: 2074 Trolls. That's up. And N and we're almost two 2018 01:57:51,570 --> 01:57:55,650 hours in. We know what it is. This is what happens people like 2019 01:57:55,740 --> 01:57:58,890 man, I'm all spun up. Maybe the boys will 2020 01:57:58,890 --> 01:58:02,160 John C Dvorak: spit me down this slow you down a slow you down. 2021 01:58:02,490 --> 01:58:04,230 Adam Curry: I mean, there's nothing like John saying that he 2022 01:58:04,230 --> 01:58:06,990 prefers the smart gay guys. I mean, come on. That's common 2023 01:58:06,990 --> 01:58:09,990 people. That's the kind of comedy The no agenda show 2024 01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:10,830 delivers to you. 2025 01:58:10,860 --> 01:58:13,140 John C Dvorak: Yeah, everybody prefers the smart guys. 2026 01:58:14,460 --> 01:58:19,920 Adam Curry: Now, don't rely on the platforms. If you want to 2027 01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,470 always know when the no agenda show was on, if you want 2028 01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:26,010 reliable delivery of your podcast within 90 seconds of 2029 01:58:26,010 --> 01:58:29,940 delivery, if you want the live stream, because it's not just 2030 01:58:30,090 --> 01:58:33,810 podcasts on demand, you need a modern podcast app, get that 2031 01:58:33,810 --> 01:58:37,800 from podcast app.com 3% of the world will be saved by it. And 2032 01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,250 there's more coming. I promise you. You can also follow us at 2033 01:58:41,250 --> 01:58:46,620 no agenda. social.com Oh, man, people are mad at me. I'm afraid 2034 01:58:46,620 --> 01:58:51,960 to even mention anybody. Well, the last show I said, this guy, 2035 01:58:52,410 --> 01:58:54,420 I'm not going to mention his name because again, we all get 2036 01:58:54,420 --> 01:58:59,760 angry. Let's admit you progressive nights sloughed and 2037 01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,420 sad, you know, he posted this screenshot. And I said, Hey, 2038 01:59:03,420 --> 01:59:06,570 man, how about a link? This is not helpful. And then Oh, yeah. 2039 01:59:06,570 --> 01:59:06,720 You 2040 01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:08,730 John C Dvorak: said you do that which is common. You do that 2041 01:59:08,730 --> 01:59:09,390 constantly. 2042 01:59:09,870 --> 01:59:12,810 Adam Curry: And he's like, Well, this is also the guy that claims 2043 01:59:12,810 --> 01:59:16,980 that we never talk about Julian Assange and it's there's reasons 2044 01:59:17,940 --> 01:59:20,550 I find it interesting. You don't talk about Julian Assange. Mm 2045 01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:30,030 Hmm Hmm. Hmm. It's one of these guys. Then he and I will not 2046 01:59:30,030 --> 01:59:33,390 stop posting until you apologize. I don't know what the 2047 01:59:33,390 --> 01:59:38,370 heck he was talking about. And I didn't realize that we were here 2048 01:59:38,370 --> 01:59:44,760 to work for you. Said the man with a free account. We don't 2049 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:50,460 even run the thing. But you know, it's like signaled noise 2050 01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:53,730 people see this, you know, even this even Macedon is bumming me 2051 01:59:53,730 --> 01:59:54,120 out. 2052 01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:59,100 John C Dvorak: Really. bumming you out. It's bumming me out. I 2053 01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:02,400 haven't heard that term for While mountains go wow. Oh, wow. 2054 02:00:02,910 --> 02:00:03,540 Yep, yep. 2055 02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:08,160 Adam Curry: And then it was like he's a great 2056 02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:12,120 John C Dvorak: guy. Oh, okay, great guy this Assange 2057 02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:13,770 Adam Curry: partisan night slot. 2058 02:00:14,730 --> 02:00:15,900 John C Dvorak: Who says he's a great guy, 2059 02:00:15,930 --> 02:00:18,930 Adam Curry: everybody. Oh, you're wrong. He's a great guy. 2060 02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:21,780 I didn't say he wasn't a great guy said he wasted my time with 2061 02:00:21,780 --> 02:00:22,650 a screenshot. 2062 02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:24,630 John C Dvorak: How does anybody know where there's a great guy 2063 02:00:24,630 --> 02:00:27,390 or not? Nobody be intermingled because the thing because 2064 02:00:27,390 --> 02:00:30,390 Adam Curry: he's onboarded so many people. He's a great guy. 2065 02:00:30,750 --> 02:00:32,790 John C Dvorak: He's unbelievable. Okay, well, 2066 02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:35,760 Adam Curry: I can't I can't how I was going to bring my sister 2067 02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:39,390 in. But I can't now because you said something about me. So I 2068 02:00:39,390 --> 02:00:41,190 can't ever let her hear that because you'd be so 2069 02:00:41,190 --> 02:00:43,440 disappointed. No agenda is no good with you. 2070 02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:47,700 John C Dvorak: On parents getting kick him off, Master. 2071 02:00:47,730 --> 02:00:48,570 No, 2072 02:00:48,870 --> 02:00:54,210 Adam Curry: no, I'm kicking myself off. It's annoying. I 2073 02:00:54,210 --> 02:00:56,100 just want to follow some blogs. 2074 02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:59,580 John C Dvorak: Well, there's no such thing anymore. Yes, there 2075 02:00:59,580 --> 02:00:59,940 is. 2076 02:01:00,180 --> 02:01:02,910 Adam Curry: Bringing it back baby. books, movies, 2077 02:01:02,940 --> 02:01:07,350 documentaries. It's all going to be RSS and I'm gonna I'm gonna 2078 02:01:07,380 --> 02:01:11,550 the the army. The army will create it. You watch. We start 2079 02:01:11,550 --> 02:01:14,820 with podcasts. No one has taken down the podcast. No one has 2080 02:01:14,820 --> 02:01:17,790 taken on the podcast. They tried. They couldn't they tried 2081 02:01:17,790 --> 02:01:18,750 to capture it. Couldn't 2082 02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:23,400 John C Dvorak: you couldn't make it Adams RSS. No. Yeah, you 2083 02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:27,720 could be an arse okay. 2084 02:01:30,690 --> 02:01:32,970 Adam Curry: You can follow Adam and origin the social.com I 2085 02:01:32,970 --> 02:01:35,550 won't post you follow Jhansi Dvorak at norgine. The 2086 02:01:35,550 --> 02:01:38,610 social.com post something to him and he'll say something grumpy 2087 02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:40,440 back. Everyone knows it. 2088 02:01:41,790 --> 02:01:43,980 Unknown: Everyone knows it. We're no good. too rare. 2089 02:01:45,630 --> 02:01:48,630 Adam Curry: It's rare that you say something grumpy? Yeah. 2090 02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:54,840 Where's the evidence? And stuff like that? All right, then 2091 02:01:54,870 --> 02:02:00,180 that's just the voice I hear my head. Value for value is the 2092 02:02:00,180 --> 02:02:03,900 reason why you have not heard any advertisements you've not 2093 02:02:03,900 --> 02:02:08,850 heard anything about gold or gold? Buy gold buy gold. Yeah. 2094 02:02:08,940 --> 02:02:12,090 And this is the reason what's happening now is the reason you 2095 02:02:12,090 --> 02:02:16,530 want to secure your future. You want to buy some gold? I have 2096 02:02:16,530 --> 02:02:19,260 gold bars. John, have you bought any gold recently? Did you get 2097 02:02:19,260 --> 02:02:19,380 in? 2098 02:02:20,940 --> 02:02:22,170 John C Dvorak: I buy a bar a month. 2099 02:02:23,550 --> 02:02:27,960 Adam Curry: Bar a month. Wow. What that DHL plug must be doing 2100 02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:33,630 pretty well for you. Bar a month. No, there's no no and no. 2101 02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,630 The only advertisements are the things that we as products we'd 2102 02:02:36,630 --> 02:02:39,420 like or if someone slipped something in a donation. We're 2103 02:02:39,420 --> 02:02:42,600 fine with that one moment you will Finchy your your company 2104 02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:45,510 name I'm sure the door is being burnt down with new clients 2105 02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:51,420 everywhere. Lena Lubetkin Yeah. And so all we ask for is that 2106 02:02:51,420 --> 02:02:55,650 you return some value time, talent or treasure. It saves us 2107 02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:59,160 enormous resources. It really makes no agenda show and you 2108 02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:03,330 know agenda nation what it is by the work that everyone else does 2109 02:03:03,390 --> 02:03:06,600 for each other. Like the meetups. Oh man, the new being 2110 02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:11,640 at.io Sir sir de nonnamous. Is he the upgrade is going to be 2111 02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:15,900 phenomenal. I this being a.io. Man, I can I just give you an 2112 02:03:15,900 --> 02:03:19,470 example of how cool since we're in the donation segment. How 2113 02:03:19,470 --> 02:03:23,760 cool bing.io is okay, I want a second. Yeah. So I was looking 2114 02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:30,120 for something about a new story. And this goes back to September 2115 02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:37,200 14. So we're almost one month ago. And it only took me I want 2116 02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:41,790 to say 37 seconds to get exactly what I wanted. And then and that 2117 02:03:41,790 --> 02:03:44,820 includes the editing of the harp at the beginning of the listen 2118 02:03:44,820 --> 02:03:49,530 to this report from the show 1597 boots on the ground report 2119 02:03:49,530 --> 02:03:52,980 that is troubling from Massachusetts. In the morning 2120 02:03:52,980 --> 02:03:56,490 boys quick update from the horrible state of tax that UCITS 2121 02:03:56,640 --> 02:04:00,240 My cousin is set to get married over Columbus Day weekend. The 2122 02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:03,270 groom's family is from out of town and they rented two floors 2123 02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:05,910 of a hotel so they could all be together for the weekend. 2124 02:04:06,150 --> 02:04:11,700 Governor Healy just seized the hotel to house migrants so they 2125 02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:14,370 have lost their reservations. There's nowhere else to say on 2126 02:04:14,370 --> 02:04:17,370 top of it. All the hotels that are housing migrants are having 2127 02:04:17,370 --> 02:04:23,700 fires, assaults, etc. It's a nightmare. So that is one month 2128 02:04:23,700 --> 02:04:27,960 ago. One month ago on your no agenda show and what pops up 2129 02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:28,350 today. 2130 02:04:28,379 --> 02:04:32,189 Unknown: Early this year Travel Agent Mark man's back booked 400 2131 02:04:32,189 --> 02:04:36,119 rooms for clients to stay near Foxborough for the big Army Navy 2132 02:04:36,119 --> 02:04:39,749 game. Most of his clients are veterans and plan to stay in 2133 02:04:39,749 --> 02:04:43,889 hotels like Comfort Inn and Best Western only recently being told 2134 02:04:43,949 --> 02:04:47,639 up to 70 of those rooms were canceled to make room for 2135 02:04:47,639 --> 02:04:50,819 migrants now staying there was a done deal. I mean, they'd 2136 02:04:50,819 --> 02:04:52,709 already started taking in migrants. 2137 02:04:52,740 --> 02:04:55,830 I was very concerned and troubled to hear that any 2138 02:04:55,830 --> 02:04:58,170 veteran may have had their rooms canceled. 2139 02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:01,200 Go to Bora Healy has directed her Secretary of Veterans 2140 02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:04,920 Affairs to help those veterans but for many the damage is 2141 02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:05,700 already done 2142 02:05:05,730 --> 02:05:09,540 as I understand it, those were decisions made by area hotels. 2143 02:05:09,570 --> 02:05:13,080 Oh yeah, so management confirms they are providing shelter and 2144 02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:17,490 support to refugees, saying we consider it a privilege to offer 2145 02:05:17,490 --> 02:05:21,240 a safe haven to those who have been forced to flee their homes 2146 02:05:21,300 --> 02:05:23,190 due to challenging circumstances. 2147 02:05:23,220 --> 02:05:25,830 Adam Curry: We know that's code for man the government gave us a 2148 02:05:25,830 --> 02:05:27,060 lot more money than those two 2149 02:05:27,870 --> 02:05:29,460 John C Dvorak: new vets are gonna give us for these 2150 02:05:29,460 --> 02:05:30,180 veterans. That's 2151 02:05:30,180 --> 02:05:33,240 Adam Curry: no good. We don't care about them. twice as 2152 02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:36,810 John C Dvorak: much money from my for housing and migrant we 2153 02:05:36,810 --> 02:05:39,030 get straight from the government checks cash and the 2154 02:05:39,030 --> 02:05:42,720 Adam Curry: governor's like, oh, no, what I can't believe that. 2155 02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:46,290 That's crazy. I had no idea this was happening. So that's what 2156 02:05:46,290 --> 02:05:48,930 being a doctor that's just one of the many beautiful things 2157 02:05:48,930 --> 02:05:52,920 that we receive as gifts and value from our producers all 2158 02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:56,550 around the world all around no agenda nation. We also have 2159 02:05:56,550 --> 02:06:00,120 artists and the artists ever since we started ragging on 2160 02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,810 their AI have been doing a lot better. The artwork for episode 2161 02:06:03,810 --> 02:06:08,640 1597 Was I mean, we had some choices to make. But this was so 2162 02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:12,420 perfect because it was the Fibonacci episode than our last 2163 02:06:12,420 --> 02:06:15,570 probably the last one. Well, considering it'll be another 2164 02:06:15,570 --> 02:06:18,930 1000 episodes before we get to one. Yeah, I think I think 2165 02:06:20,220 --> 02:06:21,720 John C Dvorak: we're gonna do 2500 And 2166 02:06:23,250 --> 02:06:26,610 Adam Curry: fo Diddley, also known as Sir Schouwburg did a 2167 02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:30,150 just a wonderful piece of Fibonacci art with no agenda on 2168 02:06:30,150 --> 02:06:33,510 top of it. If you haven't seen it, then that mean, you missed 2169 02:06:33,510 --> 02:06:35,670 out? Because man, this is good. 2170 02:06:36,420 --> 02:06:40,410 John C Dvorak: Yes, it was. It was. It wasn't we looked and 2171 02:06:40,410 --> 02:06:44,880 looked and looked. And I mean, we both kind of liked the war 2172 02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:49,170 calendar. We liked it a lot. by Sir shooting. Yeah, it's 2173 02:06:49,170 --> 02:06:50,010 dynamite. 2174 02:06:50,130 --> 02:06:52,980 Adam Curry: We figured we could use it any time because 2175 02:06:53,670 --> 02:06:56,340 John C Dvorak: we never do that. By the way. We always talk a big 2176 02:06:56,340 --> 02:06:57,030 game about it. 2177 02:06:57,060 --> 02:07:00,480 Adam Curry: I use it for the for the bad signal today. Oh, good. 2178 02:07:00,510 --> 02:07:00,810 Yeah. 2179 02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:03,960 John C Dvorak: Well, well, then. That's something Yeah. We talk a 2180 02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:08,040 big game about that. I also liked comic strip, strip 2181 02:07:08,070 --> 02:07:13,560 bloggers Air Force, the parachute. It was la I 2182 02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:17,070 obviously. But the no agenda thing. We looked and looked at 2183 02:07:17,070 --> 02:07:20,970 it. And it's just like it was it just a good looking piece. 2184 02:07:21,030 --> 02:07:24,750 Adam Curry: It actually probably wasn't a Fibonacci, golden ratio 2185 02:07:24,750 --> 02:07:27,480 because of the square size of the of the art. 2186 02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:31,290 Unknown: So it felt it felt a little off. I don't know. 2187 02:07:31,290 --> 02:07:33,870 John C Dvorak: I think it looks pretty legit to me. But whatever 2188 02:07:33,870 --> 02:07:38,310 the case, it was dynamite. And it just worked out. Yeah. As a 2189 02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:41,310 pretty piece. And then it's a little different. It was great. 2190 02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:42,510 So 2191 02:07:43,890 --> 02:07:44,910 Adam Curry: what else did we 2192 02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:49,620 John C Dvorak: look at? There wasn't really much. I mean, 2193 02:07:49,620 --> 02:07:52,050 there's a lot of stuff that could be used 2194 02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:54,750 Adam Curry: Biden kicking the dog, but the Biden wasn't good. 2195 02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:55,290 Yeah, we 2196 02:07:55,290 --> 02:07:57,000 John C Dvorak: didn't talk enough about Biden kicking the 2197 02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:58,170 dog anyway. 2198 02:07:58,590 --> 02:08:01,560 Adam Curry: Now. What else was there? 2199 02:08:01,860 --> 02:08:04,590 John C Dvorak: Biden kicks dogs. Okay, well, good to know. 2200 02:08:06,450 --> 02:08:11,730 Adam Curry: Yes, not really wasn't that much. I mean, in 2201 02:08:11,730 --> 02:08:15,150 hindsight, I think that lather rinse repeat by the spook was 2202 02:08:15,180 --> 02:08:23,100 kind of nice. to two different versions. But still, it just 2203 02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:24,210 didn't compare to the 2204 02:08:24,210 --> 02:08:27,750 John C Dvorak: Fibonacci was an artistic enough. Yeah, it did. 2205 02:08:27,900 --> 02:08:30,780 Adam Curry: The calendar of ripping off the Ukrainian flag, 2206 02:08:30,780 --> 02:08:33,270 revealing the Israeli flag underneath. It was just a great 2207 02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:36,240 concert. It was the same guy. He was competing against himself. 2208 02:08:36,540 --> 02:08:38,370 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you get that a lot with somebody who's 2209 02:08:38,370 --> 02:08:40,500 on a roll. They got some good ideas in their head and they do 2210 02:08:40,500 --> 02:08:43,650 a couple art pieces or three sometimes and they're all in the 2211 02:08:43,650 --> 02:08:45,450 same guy that it was we look at 2212 02:08:47,070 --> 02:08:50,460 Adam Curry: and looking at what's coming in so far. We'll 2213 02:08:50,460 --> 02:08:55,680 have to see. I don't know. Step it up people. It looks like some 2214 02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:57,480 more AI stuff has slipped in. 2215 02:08:58,350 --> 02:09:00,870 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. 2216 02:09:00,870 --> 02:09:01,560 Definitely. 2217 02:09:02,340 --> 02:09:08,190 Adam Curry: Thank you very much. To fo Diddley, fo diddley for 2218 02:09:08,190 --> 02:09:15,360 the artwork for 1598 Oh man. No. 1597 I'm sorry, what? 15 man 2219 02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:22,110 we're also almost at 1600 Yeah. And the 16th anniversary is on 2220 02:09:22,110 --> 02:09:24,060 the 26th I believe 2221 02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,700 John C Dvorak: it's right the next week we go to 1600 then we 2222 02:09:26,700 --> 02:09:30,480 hit the anniversary show and we're not doing a two for one 2223 02:09:31,530 --> 02:09:35,190 kind of thing because that was for 15 and Tana do was he's just 2224 02:09:35,190 --> 02:09:37,860 not going to keep doing that now. But I do have a special 2225 02:09:37,860 --> 02:09:39,930 offer which I will roll Oh, 2226 02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:41,430 Adam Curry: yes special offer. 2227 02:09:41,610 --> 02:09:45,390 John C Dvorak: I've been working on how to do it. Workout. It'll 2228 02:09:45,390 --> 02:09:49,800 be a start out I'll it'll be revealed in the next newsletter. 2229 02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:52,260 Because it is going to start it's gonna go it's only going to 2230 02:09:52,260 --> 02:09:55,680 be a three week there's a special promotion. Yes, a 2231 02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:59,430 special promotion is only a three week deal is ends. It's 2232 02:09:59,430 --> 02:10:02,550 not going to be going on forever, because it takes work. 2233 02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:06,510 It takes J doing a lot of work. 2234 02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:09,750 Adam Curry: I was gonna say you read really you're gonna do some 2235 02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:09,960 work 2236 02:10:10,860 --> 02:10:14,070 John C Dvorak: out for jobs gonna be doing good work. And 2237 02:10:14,190 --> 02:10:18,720 it'll be a roll it out. It'll roll out this Sunday. Oh, man, 2238 02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:22,680 I'm excited. And then it'll be continued right through the 1600 2239 02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:24,960 and the anniversary show and to the end of the month, and 2240 02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:26,700 probably one extra week. 2241 02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:29,340 Adam Curry: But we have to use that promo code. 2242 02:10:32,850 --> 02:10:35,100 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and then you get a mattress in a box. 2243 02:10:36,870 --> 02:10:39,840 Adam Curry: Then, of course, we have the producers, really only 2244 02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:43,530 two executives and a handful of associate executives for today. 2245 02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:48,240 This is all the way value for value works. Whatever you get 2246 02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:52,140 out of the show, send it back to us. It doesn't matter if it's $1 2247 02:10:52,140 --> 02:10:55,440 if it's $1,000 I mean it obviously it matters to us but 2248 02:10:55,620 --> 02:10:59,610 the whole point is you valuated what is valuable to you. We 2249 02:10:59,610 --> 02:11:04,020 can't look into your into your finances. We all we ask is that 2250 02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:07,650 you send something back time talent treasure, and about 3% 2251 02:11:07,650 --> 02:11:10,500 does. That's the those are the people are gonna get saved by 2252 02:11:10,500 --> 02:11:13,620 the way. No one else is gonna get saved. With my RSS 2253 02:11:13,620 --> 02:11:18,660 extravagance degree. We kick it off with our top executive 2254 02:11:18,660 --> 02:11:21,480 producer Dame shell who's in Millington, Tennessee Shelly 2255 02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:22,620 John C Dvorak: I think it's pronounced Shelly 2256 02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:26,340 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Usually I probably met her. Dame Shelly 2257 02:11:26,370 --> 02:11:31,350 I'm thinking in Tennessee 333 33 Hey fellas been seeing lots of 2258 02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:34,830 30 threes lately and realize it's been too long karma for all 2259 02:11:34,830 --> 02:11:37,950 and a little yay much love from Dame Shelley. 2260 02:11:40,380 --> 02:11:42,090 Unknown: You've got karma 2261 02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:44,100 Adam Curry: your name Shelly 2262 02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:49,860 John C Dvorak: Vandenberg is next season Provan Sol Louisiana 2263 02:11:50,250 --> 02:11:54,570 or they pronounce it 30 threes kept showing up you're right 2264 02:11:55,110 --> 02:11:59,460 that's the signal it's time to donate yeah Carmen health karma 2265 02:11:59,460 --> 02:12:03,210 for all please love you both. And all you do to keep critical 2266 02:12:03,210 --> 02:12:07,560 thinking and humor alive. Semper Fi ret 2267 02:12:08,460 --> 02:12:12,960 Unknown: you've got Harma 2268 02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:17,670 Adam Curry: simplified interview right. And then we hit our first 2269 02:12:17,670 --> 02:12:20,730 Associate Executive Producer with a row of ducks Benjamin 2270 02:12:20,730 --> 02:12:25,890 greasy from Overland Park Kansas 222 dot 22 When he says Zippy 2271 02:12:25,890 --> 02:12:30,030 rules Thank you 2272 02:12:36,180 --> 02:12:41,310 John C Dvorak: Eric Levin Berg in Los Angeles, California. And 2273 02:12:41,310 --> 02:12:51,390 he is in for $201 and he says I do believe 100% that you are the 2274 02:12:51,390 --> 02:12:54,720 best podcast in the universe. I'd like to request jobs karma 2275 02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,270 health karma and relationship karma shout out to my brother 2276 02:12:57,270 --> 02:13:03,150 sir Turkey, who I hope to follow as Knight of the Round Table 2277 02:13:03,180 --> 02:13:08,340 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 2278 02:13:11,130 --> 02:13:16,590 Adam Curry: Then here's your health karma. Karma. We just 2279 02:13:17,970 --> 02:13:19,980 take it all in. Oh, John. You've got to do this one. 2280 02:13:20,010 --> 02:13:22,440 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Linda Lou Potkins up is she's in Lakewood, 2281 02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:27,000 Colorado. Jobs karma for a resume that gets the results go 2282 02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,930 to Image makers inc.com For all your executive resume and job 2283 02:13:30,930 --> 02:13:35,910 search needs. That's image makers Inc with a k.com but just 2284 02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:39,270 find Linda Potkin under the show producers list. This is a 2285 02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:42,930 showdown between the show and Linda Lou Pak and who keeps 2286 02:13:42,930 --> 02:13:48,360 donating $200 a show to see how long she can hold out. It 2287 02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:54,240 shouldn't be staring. Shouldn't she be a dame? Tell she's a dame 2288 02:13:54,390 --> 02:13:57,900 maybe even a VI Countess. She doesn't want to she don't want 2289 02:13:57,900 --> 02:14:02,040 to interrupt the flow job who at the end when she gives up any 2290 02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:05,070 minute. Then she'll be a witness which you have the totals and 2291 02:14:05,070 --> 02:14:06,180 we'll give her what she needs. It'll 2292 02:14:06,180 --> 02:14:08,430 Unknown: be queen jobs, jobs, 2293 02:14:08,550 --> 02:14:13,980 jobs and jobs for jobs. Pharma. 2294 02:14:15,030 --> 02:14:18,600 Adam Curry: Sean Macross. In is in tager kit take a que South 2295 02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,120 Carolina to want to dollars. He says appreciate what you guys 2296 02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:23,520 do. Well, thank you. Thank you very much. 2297 02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:25,590 John C Dvorak: You can get the next one because you have the 2298 02:14:25,590 --> 02:14:26,220 notes open. 2299 02:14:26,670 --> 02:14:29,460 Adam Curry: I don't actually but it won't take me long to open. 2300 02:14:30,180 --> 02:14:36,090 Sorry. That's okay. This is from surfer, surfer, surfer, surfer. 2301 02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:39,150 And the services which Rudy sends in a note which you will 2302 02:14:39,150 --> 02:14:42,870 read $200 In the morning, ITM John Adams switcheroo. Please 2303 02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:46,860 credit this Associate Executive Producer ship to His Excellency 2304 02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:51,930 Mr. Dana Brunetti governor of Eldorado. That's his honorifics. 2305 02:14:51,930 --> 02:14:52,170 It's 2306 02:14:52,170 --> 02:14:53,520 John C Dvorak: very suspicious. 2307 02:14:54,270 --> 02:14:57,090 Adam Curry: These donations will continue until John gets a big 2308 02:14:57,090 --> 02:15:03,120 part yet karma for all producers please love is lit, sir for 2309 02:15:03,120 --> 02:15:06,720 black Baron of the i Four corridor. All right. 2310 02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:08,160 Unknown: You've got 2311 02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:16,530 Adam Curry: karma, by the way, I fully expect Brunetti to come 2312 02:15:16,530 --> 02:15:17,250 through one day. 2313 02:15:18,030 --> 02:15:21,030 John C Dvorak: He's out of the business. Now he's not. 2314 02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:23,490 Adam Curry: He's not Hey, 2315 02:15:23,849 --> 02:15:25,709 John C Dvorak: thank you bringing me back in. 2316 02:15:25,769 --> 02:15:29,219 Adam Curry: I just like to be killed in something of a 2317 02:15:30,089 --> 02:15:30,809 gruesome death. I 2318 02:15:30,810 --> 02:15:32,100 John C Dvorak: think a lot of people feel that. 2319 02:15:33,570 --> 02:15:35,430 Adam Curry: Go ahead, you get to read this long one. Oh, 2320 02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:39,060 actually, that's it. Those that were done those of the executive 2321 02:15:39,060 --> 02:15:44,250 and Associate Executive producers for episode 1598 Thank 2322 02:15:44,250 --> 02:15:47,280 you all so very much. We highly appreciate what you do for us. 2323 02:15:47,610 --> 02:15:48,840 These credits are Real you 2324 02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:53,040 John C Dvorak: can actually stop stop. This next one is 159 and 2325 02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:58,350 Australian dollars which bumps I'll read it. Yeah, this is Dean 2326 02:15:58,350 --> 02:16:02,040 from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. 159 70 or 200. 2327 02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:06,300 Something in American dollars is dollar Rhett's? Which we made a 2328 02:16:06,300 --> 02:16:09,000 deal. It's kind of an agreement bad, 2329 02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:10,350 Adam Curry: bad deal in 2330 02:16:10,590 --> 02:16:13,530 John C Dvorak: a bad deal for us. First of all, you need to de 2331 02:16:13,530 --> 02:16:13,950 douchey 2332 02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:17,460 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2333 02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:22,170 John C Dvorak: and it's 159 70 is also the golden is the 2334 02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:26,670 Fibonacci number is a numbers guy was pleasantly stirred by 2335 02:16:26,670 --> 02:16:30,150 the call for the golden mean show. Unfortunately, my donation 2336 02:16:30,150 --> 02:16:32,940 might have arrived and the cutoff time after the cutoff 2337 02:16:32,940 --> 02:16:35,400 time was at last when I missed the donor segment and it'd be 2338 02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:38,400 who's both John and you given the rare nature of the episode 2339 02:16:38,400 --> 02:16:43,110 indeed, that would be possible for a golden mean credit award 2340 02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:45,960 in post. I would definitely make my day okay, 2341 02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:47,369 Adam Curry: you gotta you got it man. My 2342 02:16:47,370 --> 02:16:50,970 John C Dvorak: initial note was to highlight I got hit in the 2343 02:16:50,970 --> 02:16:56,370 mouth off a sweet treat in early 2018 from Uncle Hotep. co host 2344 02:16:56,370 --> 02:17:01,260 of the Hotep Ben told you with Hotep Jesus when his followers 2345 02:17:01,500 --> 02:17:07,230 does the only Hotep donation ever have as far as anyone 2346 02:17:07,230 --> 02:17:10,980 listen to the show, and you got to do somebody wants to do 2347 02:17:13,260 --> 02:17:14,730 Unknown: bad deed deuced 2348 02:17:14,910 --> 02:17:16,950 John C Dvorak: Big shout out to the low tech community and all 2349 02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:19,110 the no agenda producers thank you both for the invaluable 2350 02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:23,010 insights of deconstructions a once a karma and verbalize your 2351 02:17:23,010 --> 02:17:28,470 33 Thank you for you service. That's our pleasure. In the 2352 02:17:30,660 --> 02:17:40,230 standby 3333 33 out you've got karma. And 2353 02:17:41,070 --> 02:17:43,500 Adam Curry: definitely concludes our executive and Associate 2354 02:17:43,500 --> 02:17:45,720 Executive Producers credits are Real you can use them anywhere 2355 02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:49,080 credits are recognized. Be like Dana Brunetti and put it on 2356 02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:52,590 imdb.com Then you can say hey, look at my credits. Look at this 2357 02:17:52,590 --> 02:17:56,580 guy. You heard this guy house of cards with 50 Shades of Grey 2358 02:17:57,390 --> 02:18:02,250 GranTurismo do it to people, it's good for your resume. It's 2359 02:18:02,250 --> 02:18:06,060 good for conversation. And you might even pick up another 2360 02:18:06,210 --> 02:18:09,360 listener along the way. Thank you again for supporting the no 2361 02:18:09,390 --> 02:18:13,560 agenda show if you'd like to become a producer. Here's where 2362 02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:17,400 Unknown: you go. vote.org/n A 2363 02:18:17,430 --> 02:18:19,620 Adam Curry: or no agenda show dotnet John is going to take us 2364 02:18:19,620 --> 02:18:22,380 through to the 50s won't take very long and then Bruce 2365 02:18:22,379 --> 02:18:24,359 John C Dvorak: Schwalm starts us off from Harrisburg, 2366 02:18:24,359 --> 02:18:30,899 Pennsylvania. $133. And it says David poeple poeple and 2367 02:18:30,899 --> 02:18:36,509 curiously, Australia 12863. And this is a switcheroo for his 2368 02:18:36,509 --> 02:18:39,809 lovely wife Liz's birthday. It needs a de douching 2369 02:18:41,790 --> 02:18:43,620 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2370 02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:47,820 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Australians can get a biscuit for their 2371 02:18:47,820 --> 02:18:49,230 birthday if you can hit that button. 2372 02:18:51,150 --> 02:18:55,050 Adam Curry: Sorry. I should that shouldn't be a button. Hold on. 2373 02:18:55,590 --> 02:18:56,280 You asked for it. 2374 02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:59,189 John C Dvorak: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday God 2375 02:18:59,729 --> 02:19:03,599 and His Pull, pull. Pull pull is how you pronounce it. I speak of 2376 02:19:03,599 --> 02:19:07,079 the devil. There's Dana Brunetti from Golden cloud ranch in 2377 02:19:07,289 --> 02:19:11,669 California. That's his ranch. I will read some of this because 2378 02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:16,409 of the nature of possibly getting a big part. Monday is a 2379 02:19:16,409 --> 02:19:20,279 Stella's 11th birthday. She's on the list. The only show episode 2380 02:19:20,279 --> 02:19:22,979 she ever wants to hear while I'm driving her to school is the 2381 02:19:22,979 --> 02:19:26,609 episode last year where she got a birthday shout out. Yeah, 2382 02:19:26,699 --> 02:19:29,519 mentioned her every show and I can listen with her in the car. 2383 02:19:30,419 --> 02:19:34,139 Also, there's a good Fibonacci reference in my movie 21 about 2384 02:19:34,139 --> 02:19:39,329 the MIT car card counters. He comes in with a with a 112 30 2385 02:19:39,329 --> 02:19:42,899 fives like I discerned two things from this to 112 a Senate 2386 02:19:42,899 --> 02:19:45,989 becoming an executive producer. He comes in with just a low 2387 02:19:45,989 --> 02:19:49,199 level. He's running out of money. He's and he's talks about 2388 02:19:49,199 --> 02:19:52,529 one of his old movies. He's going back into the business of 2389 02:19:52,529 --> 02:19:53,939 being a producer. 2390 02:19:53,970 --> 02:19:57,630 Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's gonna be 500 Shades of 2391 02:19:57,630 --> 02:20:02,040 Grey. It's got a big part 2392 02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:07,320 John C Dvorak: about that. Be the guy handing out the whips in 2393 02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:10,440 the office. That's Andrew Kelly in Los Angeles, California 2394 02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:15,810 $100.33. We give you some grad school admissions karma at the 2395 02:20:15,810 --> 02:20:19,920 end anonymity and lien, Netherlands 2396 02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:24,930 Adam Curry: Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena lane, Lane, that lane. 2397 02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:29,340 John C Dvorak: Lane that lane that $100. Katie in Bozeman, 2398 02:20:29,340 --> 02:20:32,370 Montana $100 Nisa de douching. 2399 02:20:34,890 --> 02:20:36,060 Unknown: De deuced. 2400 02:20:37,980 --> 02:20:42,420 John C Dvorak: Sir Ty Joker that he is in Queen Creek, Arizona. 2401 02:20:42,660 --> 02:20:47,490 Eight, the 888 lot of eights happy 10 by 10 by 10 day 1010 2402 02:20:47,490 --> 02:20:49,740 day which was just the other day it was Tuesday. 2403 02:20:49,770 --> 02:20:53,190 Adam Curry: It was last week as well. Yeah, it was two weeks in 2404 02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:53,520 a row 2405 02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:58,290 John C Dvorak: is the best China. We'll get a note from the 2406 02:20:58,290 --> 02:21:02,280 Chinese Embassy because of that. Kevin McLaughlin the Duke Aluna 2407 02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:08,640 Concord North Carolina 808. Breast Cancer Awareness Month. 2408 02:21:08,730 --> 02:21:16,230 Save the JUGS getting getting to the end of this. Josh urban 2409 02:21:17,070 --> 02:21:25,680 David German and North Tura Mora New South Wales $77. This is 2410 02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:30,840 under 2556 and dollar ruse. Kevin McLaughlin is back with 2411 02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:39,060 606 breast cancer awareness month save the Sugar Plum. Okay, 2412 02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:46,770 Sir Don in Chandler, Arizona. 606 Dave gainer in Melrose 2413 02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:53,430 Florida 606 small boobs in regards to recent news from the 2414 02:21:53,430 --> 02:21:56,400 curry house. We don't know about on this show. 2415 02:21:56,580 --> 02:21:58,380 Adam Curry: Now you got to listen to Korean the keeper if 2416 02:21:58,380 --> 02:22:00,090 you want to know about that and less 2417 02:22:00,090 --> 02:22:04,050 John C Dvorak: Tara kowski in Kingman Arizona 57 Oliver Reich 2418 02:22:05,880 --> 02:22:11,760 I should have called him by his current name. But I won't and I 2419 02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:14,010 want to I just want to say where he's from he goes with an 2420 02:22:14,010 --> 02:22:19,080 anonymous name now 5150 Thank you. Christine Heinz and 2421 02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:24,360 Manchester New Hampshire 5123 Bad Ideas supply Bad Idea supply 2422 02:22:24,960 --> 02:22:29,100 5050. And now we got the $50 donors with few there are 2423 02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:31,410 there's actually more of these than anything else as a matter 2424 02:22:31,410 --> 02:22:35,670 of fact that the natty a Borg and San Marcos California oh my 2425 02:22:35,670 --> 02:22:41,370 god he said ended hood in orange Vale California Michelle petty 2426 02:22:41,490 --> 02:22:45,780 in Grand Forks, North Dakota, Tim del Vecchio and blend in 2427 02:22:45,780 --> 02:22:53,820 Pennsylvania. John spade in Edmond Oklahoma, Andrew lasso in 2428 02:22:53,820 --> 02:22:57,270 Mineola, New York Cory Cunningham in Warrenton, 2429 02:22:57,300 --> 02:23:03,360 Virginia Alex, Alexis Earl bliss are Robles in Chula Vista. 2430 02:23:03,930 --> 02:23:08,880 Michael Vendel in Matawan, New Jersey Gary Mao in Woodland 2431 02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:13,170 Hills California Stephen in, in Bucks elder South Dakota. 2432 02:23:13,650 --> 02:23:17,310 Kimberly de in Holly Springs, North Carolina, Erin Joyce in 2433 02:23:17,310 --> 02:23:22,770 New York, Pennsylvania, William dole gay in Bristol Ville, Ohio, 2434 02:23:23,310 --> 02:23:26,820 Carrie Jackson and Watertown, Tennessee and last on the list 2435 02:23:26,850 --> 02:23:31,200 from Miami Beach we have Jason to luzio want to thank all these 2436 02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:37,590 people for making a show 1598 to two away a reality 2437 02:23:37,620 --> 02:23:40,230 Adam Curry: and thank you everyone who came in under 50 2438 02:23:40,260 --> 02:23:42,780 For real reasons of anonymity that's the best way to stay 2439 02:23:42,780 --> 02:23:47,070 anonymous 4999 People do that a lot also thank you for being on 2440 02:23:47,070 --> 02:23:51,210 those sustaining donations they they come back monthly you can 2441 02:23:51,210 --> 02:23:54,090 make your own What do you got a cool numbers 30 threes elevens 2442 02:23:54,090 --> 02:23:58,200 12 Even threes if you want all of its there, and as always we 2443 02:23:58,200 --> 02:24:00,570 thank our executive and Associate Executive producers 2444 02:24:00,570 --> 02:24:04,650 for being here producing episode 1598 2445 02:24:06,030 --> 02:24:09,750 Unknown: this we go out but yet people in the mouth 2446 02:24:29,340 --> 02:24:31,890 Adam Curry: and we kick it off with the governor of El Dorado 2447 02:24:31,890 --> 02:24:34,890 Dana Brunetti, wishing Estella Happy birthday she turned to 2448 02:24:34,890 --> 02:24:40,170 Lebanon October 9 Happy Birthday Estella in the car. From uncle 2449 02:24:40,170 --> 02:24:43,620 Adam and Uncle John. Sir protector. Sir Bob protector of 2450 02:24:43,620 --> 02:24:47,310 Western foco wishes his sister Pam and son Andrew a happy 2451 02:24:47,310 --> 02:24:51,660 birthday. Born on the 11th So that was all yesterday Tim de 2452 02:24:51,660 --> 02:24:55,650 vecchio celebrates today and David poeple wishes his wife Liz 2453 02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:58,440 a very happy birthday as we say happy birthday from everybody 2454 02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:03,420 here in the best podcast in the unit. ours. Now before we we 2455 02:25:03,420 --> 02:25:08,430 have won one podium, one podium person today for a Daming. This 2456 02:25:08,430 --> 02:25:15,420 is the dame note from Kara parallel. And on last Thursday's 2457 02:25:15,420 --> 02:25:18,570 episode My smokin hot husband Walker Phillips made a generous 2458 02:25:18,570 --> 02:25:22,110 switcheroo donation to make me a dame or at least Dame adjacent 2459 02:25:22,110 --> 02:25:25,410 for my birthday. That's right. We waited for you at the 2460 02:25:25,410 --> 02:25:29,130 roundtable. I would like a bottle of 2017 cost of brown 2461 02:25:29,130 --> 02:25:32,820 Cerise, Pinot Noir and a vegan gluten free pizza with 2462 02:25:32,820 --> 02:25:41,040 mushrooms, olives and onions. But well, you know, how about 2463 02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:45,060 this wine? What's that? The 2017 COSTA brown Cerise Pinot Noir. 2464 02:25:45,060 --> 02:25:48,600 Is that any good? Yeah, I don't I've never had it. My day name 2465 02:25:48,600 --> 02:25:51,630 shall be deemed windchimes portraits of the Partridge 2466 02:25:51,630 --> 02:25:55,470 Family temple. Oh man, they must be fun to hang out with thanks 2467 02:25:55,470 --> 02:25:58,500 so much for everything. And we will bring you right in fact, 2468 02:25:58,560 --> 02:26:00,090 let's get our blades out. Here we go. 2469 02:26:00,330 --> 02:26:01,740 John C Dvorak: Got it right here ready to go. 2470 02:26:01,949 --> 02:26:06,539 Adam Curry: All right, here we go. Kara power about up on the 2471 02:26:06,539 --> 02:26:11,009 podium you go. Thanks for your hobby. He loves you very, very 2472 02:26:11,009 --> 02:26:14,099 much. I'm very proud to pronounce the K the same wind 2473 02:26:14,099 --> 02:26:17,999 chimes Partridge of the Partridge Family temple for you 2474 02:26:17,999 --> 02:26:20,459 we have well Brent boys and Chardonnay. I don't think you 2475 02:26:20,459 --> 02:26:25,289 need any hookers and blow. We also have that 27 custom brown 2476 02:26:25,289 --> 02:26:28,709 Cerise, Pinot Noir and a vegan gluten free pizza with 2477 02:26:28,709 --> 02:26:32,339 mushrooms, olives and onions delectable. I tell you, along 2478 02:26:32,339 --> 02:26:35,369 with that just in case you don't have enough of that pizza. We 2479 02:26:35,369 --> 02:26:38,489 got some vodka but Ellis and buckets and bourbon, some ginger 2480 02:26:38,489 --> 02:26:41,219 ale and Jerboas we got some breast milk and pablum. And, of 2481 02:26:41,219 --> 02:26:44,939 course, the always effervescent mutton and meat. Enjoy that 2482 02:26:45,299 --> 02:26:48,539 while you surf over to no agenda rings.com Check out all the 2483 02:26:48,539 --> 02:26:51,419 rings that are available for Knights and Dames. There's 2484 02:26:51,419 --> 02:26:53,759 really only one but it's a cool one because it's a ring that is 2485 02:26:53,759 --> 02:26:56,789 a signet ring. You can use it with the wax that we will 2486 02:26:56,789 --> 02:27:00,089 provide to seal your important correspondence. And as always, 2487 02:27:00,269 --> 02:27:03,449 they come with a certificate of authenticity signed by yours 2488 02:27:03,449 --> 02:27:06,599 truly. crackpot and buzzkill Thank you very much to your 2489 02:27:06,599 --> 02:27:09,299 husband, thank you for being a day. We'd love having you here. 2490 02:27:09,509 --> 02:27:13,079 And again, thank you to everyone who supported no agenda on this 2491 02:27:13,079 --> 02:27:13,679 episode. 2492 02:27:14,100 --> 02:27:15,180 Unknown: No one said 2493 02:27:22,050 --> 02:27:25,770 Adam Curry: well, not only do we have no meetup reports. There's 2494 02:27:25,770 --> 02:27:30,090 also no meetups on Friday the 13th Interestingly enough, there 2495 02:27:30,090 --> 02:27:30,840 is one today 2496 02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:32,700 John C Dvorak: me found that quite peculiar. 2497 02:27:33,029 --> 02:27:35,249 Adam Curry: You'd think I was afraid, you know. 2498 02:27:35,609 --> 02:27:37,709 John C Dvorak: There's also no meetups on Halloween. 2499 02:27:39,630 --> 02:27:41,100 Adam Curry: Well, now is Halloween. You gotta do 2500 02:27:41,100 --> 02:27:42,210 something else with your time you 2501 02:27:42,210 --> 02:27:44,160 John C Dvorak: got to take the kids. Take the kids know 2502 02:27:44,160 --> 02:27:45,780 meetups, the Mile 2503 02:27:45,780 --> 02:27:48,060 Adam Curry: High meetup kicks off today at 630 at Lincoln's 2504 02:27:48,060 --> 02:27:51,030 Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado then on Saturday, the North 2505 02:27:51,030 --> 02:27:54,630 Carolina triad two o'clock at Kernersville Brewing Company in 2506 02:27:54,630 --> 02:27:58,200 North Carolina in Kernersville. Obviously, the mutton and Mead 2507 02:27:58,200 --> 02:28:03,000 meet up Alaska and it'll be a two o'clock at Parker Ranch. 2508 02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:07,110 That's in Palmer Alaska. So you have to RSVP it's a private home 2509 02:28:07,110 --> 02:28:11,070 now that sounds like a lot of fun. Lake chapel a muster that 2510 02:28:11,070 --> 02:28:15,420 chapel and next time will be 330 for you. That's Mexico. American 2511 02:28:15,420 --> 02:28:18,720 Legion choppa la Shapleigh Is that how you pronounce it? Chapa 2512 02:28:18,720 --> 02:28:22,440 la central Mexico. Damn kicking and screaming organizing that 2513 02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:26,070 for you can't wait to hear a meet up report from there. The 2514 02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:30,060 spot the spook casual pint is where you will meet up in 2515 02:28:30,060 --> 02:28:34,230 Huntsville, Alabama on Saturday. The second Saturday slave soiree 2516 02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:36,510 at Dick's primal burger in Portland, Oregon. Also on 2517 02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:39,960 Saturday five o'clock we have the Northeast Houston meetup 2518 02:28:40,140 --> 02:28:44,790 3040 Farm to Market bogeys billiard that'll be at five 2519 02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:49,410 o'clock on Sunday next showed a 505 ITM that's in sawmill. 2520 02:28:49,410 --> 02:28:53,220 Albuquerque, New Mexico. This is Jeff tobique. Sir, sir Jeff, 2521 02:28:53,640 --> 02:28:58,380 please people go visit him. He's been kind of low on the on the 2522 02:28:58,380 --> 02:29:02,040 attendance like couple people only so and he's a cool Do you 2523 02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:06,540 really is asking Him to show you his scars. Cast casting for 2524 02:29:06,540 --> 02:29:09,660 Gaston. That'll be at two o'clock on Sunday at Gaston 2525 02:29:09,660 --> 02:29:13,140 manor in Charleston South Carolina Dame Jennifer's 2526 02:29:13,140 --> 02:29:17,400 organizing all that sounds like something good. Gaston Manor, 2527 02:29:17,820 --> 02:29:21,990 private residence like a Bruce Wayne type of thing like Wayne 2528 02:29:21,990 --> 02:29:25,470 Manor Naik, EB Dame Jennifer I'll be looking for a report 2529 02:29:25,470 --> 02:29:29,370 from you. And finally also on Sunday the spooky October meet 2530 02:29:29,370 --> 02:29:32,280 up three o'clock at prodigy Burger Bar in Indianapolis, 2531 02:29:32,280 --> 02:29:36,210 Indiana and Indy we're coming December 4 to keep an eye coming 2532 02:29:36,210 --> 02:29:39,630 for for a meet up so everybody get ready for that. It's gonna 2533 02:29:39,630 --> 02:29:43,080 be a lot of fun. I'm very excited about it. Since we'll 2534 02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:48,270 have direct flights. Teams like we can fly through Atlanta But 2535 02:29:48,270 --> 02:29:51,150 nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. So we'll be arriving right around 2536 02:29:51,150 --> 02:29:54,270 seven o'clock to get everything going and we're leaving that 2537 02:29:54,270 --> 02:29:56,610 we're staying at the airport hotel people just say no, we're 2538 02:29:56,610 --> 02:29:59,280 in and out in and out but we're coming for you because we love 2539 02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:02,400 you These are the no agenda meetups, they're very important 2540 02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:06,150 for your psyche. You know, whereas we act as the Xanax. You 2541 02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:10,350 really want, you know, the full on ludes that's what you get 2542 02:30:10,350 --> 02:30:12,930 from the meetup you hang out with people who you probably 2543 02:30:12,930 --> 02:30:15,780 wouldn't expect to hang out with. But it turns out we're all 2544 02:30:16,080 --> 02:30:20,340 members of Gitmo nation and have like a companion to the show. 2545 02:30:20,700 --> 02:30:24,300 You'll have great conversations it's always fun. There's always 2546 02:30:24,300 --> 02:30:27,810 a little of alcohol involved and you get connection which is 2547 02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:30,870 ultimate protection no agenda meetups.com If you can't find 2548 02:30:30,870 --> 02:30:34,290 one near you start one yourself will tell everybody all about 2549 02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:50,310 Unknown: everybody feels the same 2550 02:30:58,230 --> 02:30:58,590 Okay, 2551 02:30:58,619 --> 02:31:05,729 Adam Curry: I'm back. I'm back. I have two to two ISOs to I 2552 02:31:05,729 --> 02:31:08,279 think one of them's the winner. Do you want to do yours first? 2553 02:31:08,279 --> 02:31:09,299 Are you always how you 2554 02:31:09,420 --> 02:31:10,620 John C Dvorak: did mine first lesson? 2555 02:31:10,949 --> 02:31:15,179 Adam Curry: You love it? You're wanted for Christmas? That's one 2556 02:31:16,349 --> 02:31:18,899 second I got a boost this next one this is the winner Houma 2557 02:31:19,019 --> 02:31:21,809 This is the winner. Me just looks at the volume sometimes 2558 02:31:21,809 --> 02:31:24,419 these aren't good. Okay, here we go. This is the winner there is 2559 02:31:24,419 --> 02:31:28,949 just not enough of Taylor Swift Come on. Come on. That's the 2560 02:31:28,949 --> 02:31:29,669 winner right there. 2561 02:31:29,700 --> 02:31:32,370 John C Dvorak: I like it. I like it. I may have beat her when it 2562 02:31:32,370 --> 02:31:36,180 means now I have a couple here that I thought I could fit that 2563 02:31:36,240 --> 02:31:40,170 I only I actually have one and that one the other ones I have 2564 02:31:40,200 --> 02:31:43,710 are just an example of using the Adobe thing and having it come 2565 02:31:43,710 --> 02:31:50,010 out cleaner but using but changing some word now listen to 2566 02:31:50,010 --> 02:31:55,080 I get to I so big win and then I so big win fix the play. I saw 2567 02:31:55,080 --> 02:31:57,660 big win and this is the clip I wanted to fix. 2568 02:31:57,870 --> 02:32:01,650 Unknown: So a big way. Okay, so a 2569 02:32:01,650 --> 02:32:06,480 John C Dvorak: big win. Yeah. So a big win. big wig almost it was 2570 02:32:06,480 --> 02:32:09,990 so nice. But that's the problem I have Adobe couldn't understand 2571 02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:12,390 it either. But he's but it was big win. 2572 02:32:12,420 --> 02:32:17,070 Adam Curry: Okay, so here's the Adobe product. Fixed Here we go. 2573 02:32:17,340 --> 02:32:20,280 Unknown: So I may weigh between 2574 02:32:21,210 --> 02:32:25,500 John C Dvorak: the big one a big win big wing, the big wing 2575 02:32:26,340 --> 02:32:31,770 thanks to Adobe change when to Wing Wing for nothing that's AI 2576 02:32:31,770 --> 02:32:37,440 for you. So now let's go to my other one which is fact check 2577 02:32:37,440 --> 02:32:38,070 true 2578 02:32:38,130 --> 02:32:39,390 Unknown: fact check true 2579 02:32:41,940 --> 02:32:46,170 Adam Curry: na na na na nah, this beats it. I mean, this is 2580 02:32:46,170 --> 02:32:49,920 just not enough of Taylor Swift Come on. That's just that's the 2581 02:32:49,950 --> 02:32:50,670 that wins. 2582 02:32:53,010 --> 02:32:55,080 John C Dvorak: So I did a little digging in this Taylor Swift 2583 02:32:55,080 --> 02:32:55,590 story. 2584 02:32:57,570 --> 02:32:58,530 Adam Curry: Why? 2585 02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:02,430 John C Dvorak: Because I'm because this seems to me to be a 2586 02:33:02,430 --> 02:33:06,990 play by one public relations firm to get NFL as one of their 2587 02:33:06,990 --> 02:33:09,150 clients because they have a bunch of players and Taylor 2588 02:33:09,150 --> 02:33:13,320 Swift for some unknown reason is probably write this up in the 2589 02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:18,480 newsletter. She is managed publicity wise by us sports 2590 02:33:18,480 --> 02:33:24,150 management company that manages athletes. Yeah. And she's there 2591 02:33:24,180 --> 02:33:27,180 among the athletes and this makes nothing but sense that 2592 02:33:27,180 --> 02:33:30,540 they set her up with his a phony boyfriend story, which is 2593 02:33:30,540 --> 02:33:33,780 Hollywood does all the time, of course, but let's do it for the 2594 02:33:33,780 --> 02:33:36,570 NFL and get the numbers up. She didn't show up in the last game. 2595 02:33:36,570 --> 02:33:40,080 We will never hear from her again in the football era. And 2596 02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:44,100 she never was boyfriend girlfriend bowl crap. But people 2597 02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:45,090 lapped it up. 2598 02:33:46,380 --> 02:33:48,450 Adam Curry: Do you have a clip to go along with this or? 2599 02:33:49,019 --> 02:33:50,819 John C Dvorak: No, I use his brother because you brought that 2600 02:33:50,819 --> 02:33:52,319 clip and I had to say something, 2601 02:33:52,349 --> 02:33:53,939 Adam Curry: just all your assertions. 2602 02:33:55,440 --> 02:33:59,850 John C Dvorak: Alright, so I got some I have some offbeat clips. 2603 02:34:00,269 --> 02:34:02,369 Adam Curry: Before we do offbeat. Let's end with that. So 2604 02:34:02,369 --> 02:34:03,689 I can just depress everybody. Well, 2605 02:34:03,690 --> 02:34:05,190 John C Dvorak: they're not offbeat in that way. They're 2606 02:34:05,190 --> 02:34:09,510 their news clips that include this one, which is Holland 2607 02:34:09,540 --> 02:34:12,210 climate change. Oh, here we go. 2608 02:34:12,270 --> 02:34:14,490 Unknown: And the Netherlands. climate activists are 2609 02:34:14,490 --> 02:34:18,210 celebrating after lawmakers Tuesday approved a motion 2610 02:34:18,210 --> 02:34:21,810 requiring the Dutch cabinet to come up with a plan to phase out 2611 02:34:21,810 --> 02:34:25,800 fossil fuel subsidies. This comes after a sustained campaign 2612 02:34:25,800 --> 02:34:28,980 by activists including a nearly month long blockade of a major 2613 02:34:28,980 --> 02:34:33,240 highway this Lucas phenotypes of extinction rebellion 2614 02:34:33,270 --> 02:34:34,230 Netherlands, 2615 02:34:34,410 --> 02:34:38,100 after a month long of daily protests and more than 9000 2616 02:34:38,100 --> 02:34:41,910 arrests. The Dutch parliament asked the Cabinet to come up 2617 02:34:41,910 --> 02:34:45,990 with scenarios for phase out of fossil fuel subsidies during 2618 02:34:45,990 --> 02:34:49,830 this campaign we achieved transformation I think of Dutch 2619 02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:54,150 society, with three quarters of the people now wanting a phase 2620 02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:58,140 out of fossil fuel subsidies. And even a third of the people 2621 02:34:58,140 --> 02:35:02,010 want immediate stuff out All fossil fuel subsidies that is 2622 02:35:02,010 --> 02:35:07,080 the extinction rebellion demand. So a big way. Yes. 2623 02:35:07,230 --> 02:35:10,050 Adam Curry: Let me tell you this is some bull crap from the from 2624 02:35:10,050 --> 02:35:13,890 this ditch guy and I tell you why. Okay, you ready for this? 2625 02:35:14,460 --> 02:35:19,320 This cabinet this cabinet fell a while ago, so they cannot make 2626 02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:22,950 any laws or anything Intel there's a new cabinet after 2627 02:35:22,950 --> 02:35:27,990 elections in November. So he is full of vasavi coward. We call 2628 02:35:27,990 --> 02:35:29,730 it cow crap in Holland. 2629 02:35:31,380 --> 02:35:33,900 John C Dvorak: Well, the other thing about that clip is that 2630 02:35:34,200 --> 02:35:39,210 they want to end fossil fuel subsidies. What what is that? 2631 02:35:40,140 --> 02:35:42,360 It's not about ending fossil fuel. 2632 02:35:42,420 --> 02:35:44,940 Adam Curry: It doesn't matter. We got those idiots off of the 2633 02:35:44,940 --> 02:35:48,690 aid valve. It was annoying. We couldn't shoot them with water 2634 02:35:48,690 --> 02:35:52,200 cannons because they were crying all the time about it. So we 2635 02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:57,870 just say okay, you get something from us go value children's cast 2636 02:35:57,870 --> 02:36:00,390 was actually pretty good. I think I think I nailed that guy. 2637 02:36:00,630 --> 02:36:03,480 John C Dvorak: Nailed it. You nailed it. You nailed it. You 2638 02:36:03,480 --> 02:36:06,450 will get nasty notes from some of your Dutch. Oh, 2639 02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:09,390 Adam Curry: no, they agree. They think they think it's all 2640 02:36:09,390 --> 02:36:14,100 annoying. Let's do something depressing for a moment. And 2641 02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:18,000 then we'll do something funny. You recall the well, actually, 2642 02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:24,660 you had the clips of the DNA gene jock from the South 2643 02:36:24,660 --> 02:36:32,040 Carolina. What was it it was a special hearing about COVID 2644 02:36:32,070 --> 02:36:35,190 About the vaccines about DNA being in the 2645 02:36:35,610 --> 02:36:39,900 John C Dvorak: DNA being in the vaccines and going into your 2646 02:36:39,900 --> 02:36:45,480 system as you know, recombinant and putting it into your your 2647 02:36:46,350 --> 02:36:47,520 genetic material? 2648 02:36:47,760 --> 02:36:49,920 Adam Curry: Yes, none of this seems to be doing very well for 2649 02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:54,840 a lot of people. And this same ad hoc committee on the health. 2650 02:36:55,500 --> 02:36:56,160 Department of 2651 02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:59,460 John C Dvorak: Health seems to be making a lot of people sick. 2652 02:36:59,850 --> 02:37:02,850 Adam Curry: Well, here is Dr. Karen DeVore. She's a 2653 02:37:02,850 --> 02:37:06,600 dermatologist. Nice lady. two parter. 2654 02:37:06,750 --> 02:37:09,330 Unknown: In the last two and a half years since a vaccine has 2655 02:37:09,330 --> 02:37:12,840 been widely promoted. And many patients have taken it out of 2656 02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:18,840 fear and isolation. The patients who took the vaccine still get 2657 02:37:18,840 --> 02:37:23,970 COVID. And now I see patients and I could not believe the 2658 02:37:23,970 --> 02:37:26,910 attorney whose spokesman said he had heard the same thing because 2659 02:37:26,910 --> 02:37:30,030 in 30 years of practicing dermatology, I've never heard 2660 02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:34,170 people describe their symptoms this way. I am itching from my 2661 02:37:34,170 --> 02:37:41,580 bones out. I am on fire from the inside. I see the most unusual 2662 02:37:41,580 --> 02:37:45,240 rashes and they don't respond well to treatment. And they last 2663 02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:49,560 for months or years. I see previously well controlled 2664 02:37:49,740 --> 02:37:54,300 autoimmune diseases like psoriasis and eczema and lupus 2665 02:37:54,390 --> 02:37:59,850 now totally out of control. I see your see aggressive, severe 2666 02:37:59,850 --> 02:38:03,690 shingles, it is more painful, it is lasting longer. And this is 2667 02:38:03,690 --> 02:38:08,850 even in those who've had the shingles vaccine. I see rapidly 2668 02:38:08,850 --> 02:38:12,150 growing skin cancers, including basal cells that are just 2669 02:38:12,180 --> 02:38:15,540 supposed to be traditionally very slow growing. I see 2670 02:38:15,540 --> 02:38:18,090 squamous cells, cutaneous squamous cells that are 2671 02:38:18,090 --> 02:38:22,170 metastasizing much more often than they ever did before. And 2672 02:38:22,170 --> 02:38:26,700 melanomas have become so unusual and much harder to diagnose. 2673 02:38:26,940 --> 02:38:30,240 They are much more advanced at presentation, and I have to 2674 02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:34,770 biopsy more and more things. And it's all in vaccinated patients. 2675 02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:38,730 Adam Curry: So that's her professional in her profession 2676 02:38:38,730 --> 02:38:41,940 in her field in the medical profession. And he or she's 2677 02:38:41,940 --> 02:38:44,580 talking about just some other ancillary things she has 2678 02:38:44,580 --> 02:38:45,090 noticed. 2679 02:38:45,150 --> 02:38:48,360 Unknown: And then beyond my field, patients that I have seen 2680 02:38:48,390 --> 02:38:52,440 regularly for six to 12 months, every six to 12 months for 30 2681 02:38:52,440 --> 02:38:55,320 years. They're aging more rapidly. They've got unhealthy 2682 02:38:55,320 --> 02:38:58,050 weight loss, they keep their balances bad, they're falling, 2683 02:38:58,050 --> 02:39:00,900 they're black and blue. They can't get on an exam table. And 2684 02:39:00,900 --> 02:39:04,020 you see their medical updates as they were in and they've had 2685 02:39:04,020 --> 02:39:07,170 atrial fibrillation, pacemakers, heart attack strokes, blood 2686 02:39:07,170 --> 02:39:11,700 clots, pulmonary embolism, Parkinsonism, ALS, tremors, 2687 02:39:11,910 --> 02:39:15,450 nerve policies, miscarriages, infertility, did I mention 2688 02:39:15,450 --> 02:39:19,080 aggressive new ones that cancers, recurrent stage four 2689 02:39:19,080 --> 02:39:23,580 cancers after 20 years of remission? I know for people in 2690 02:39:24,330 --> 02:39:27,720 one small zip code in Spartanburg that have rare 2691 02:39:27,720 --> 02:39:32,130 leukemias, three or four of them are dead now, in over 30 years 2692 02:39:32,130 --> 02:39:34,770 of medical practice. I've probably only known one or two 2693 02:39:34,770 --> 02:39:38,010 people who had Lou Gehrig's, or ALS disease, and they were 2694 02:39:38,040 --> 02:39:41,760 distant and not really you know, third or fourth contacts I now 2695 02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:44,910 know three people in my immediate range of contact 2696 02:39:45,930 --> 02:39:47,190 Adam Curry: you know what's to blame 2697 02:39:50,580 --> 02:39:56,580 John C Dvorak: Putin okay with that, you're right. That was a 2698 02:39:56,580 --> 02:39:57,540 depressing clip. But 2699 02:39:57,540 --> 02:39:59,550 Adam Curry: now Now I'm going to take you out of it. I'm taking 2700 02:39:59,550 --> 02:39:59,670 this 2701 02:39:59,670 --> 02:40:01,920 John C Dvorak: lie I still have another news clip before you 2702 02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:02,910 take us out I was something 2703 02:40:02,940 --> 02:40:06,270 Adam Curry: no no because I want you to end with something like 2704 02:40:06,300 --> 02:40:07,260 I'm going I don't have 2705 02:40:07,260 --> 02:40:09,720 John C Dvorak: something like I have I have a what what clip 2706 02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:14,340 Adam Curry: Okay, do we want it shouldn't that be the last clip 2707 02:40:14,430 --> 02:40:15,300 the what what clip? 2708 02:40:15,810 --> 02:40:18,000 John C Dvorak: Okay it's it's actually a good last clip 2709 02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:19,140 because you go what 2710 02:40:19,800 --> 02:40:24,450 Adam Curry: will go what what yep, yep. Here is Dr. Osterholm 2711 02:40:24,600 --> 02:40:28,110 that you know he has he has long COVID Yes long COVID Yeah 2712 02:40:28,110 --> 02:40:30,570 John C Dvorak: the guy would they got sick? Yeah right sick 2713 02:40:30,570 --> 02:40:30,690 as 2714 02:40:30,690 --> 02:40:34,680 Adam Curry: a dog. He was he was the OG we're all gonna die. We 2715 02:40:34,680 --> 02:40:38,520 need to get vaccinated. met him at Joe Rogan first time I went 2716 02:40:38,520 --> 02:40:43,710 on 3 million people gonna die. Oh gee, he has a podcast. And oh 2717 02:40:43,710 --> 02:40:45,930 man COVID is it's all COVID. 2718 02:40:45,960 --> 02:40:49,230 Unknown: The researchers found the SARS cov to can infect and 2719 02:40:49,230 --> 02:40:52,500 replicate and white blood cells, leading to an inflammatory 2720 02:40:52,500 --> 02:40:55,170 response that is known to increase the risk of heart 2721 02:40:55,170 --> 02:40:58,410 attacks and stroke. And this elevated risk can last up to a 2722 02:40:58,410 --> 02:41:01,710 year after infection. In additional research that has 2723 02:41:01,710 --> 02:41:04,530 been done, it has been demonstrated that individuals up 2724 02:41:04,530 --> 02:41:08,820 to one year after their COVID case, have an increased risk for 2725 02:41:08,820 --> 02:41:13,260 cardiovascular events, cardiovascular events, as 2726 02:41:13,260 --> 02:41:17,280 specifically that is at least seven times higher for COVID 2727 02:41:17,280 --> 02:41:20,700 related infections and for influenza. We have been 2728 02:41:20,700 --> 02:41:23,820 observing an increase in heart attacks and stroke with COVID 19 2729 02:41:23,820 --> 02:41:26,670 infections throughout the pandemic. But until now, there 2730 02:41:26,670 --> 02:41:30,720 was no concrete biologic evidence linking COVID-19 to 2731 02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:34,560 this increase, as the authors of the paper explain their findings 2732 02:41:34,560 --> 02:41:38,700 provide for the first time a direct mechanistic link between 2733 02:41:38,700 --> 02:41:42,780 COVID 19 infection and the heart complications that provokes 2734 02:41:43,230 --> 02:41:46,650 Adam Curry: vascular problems. We knew this, we knew this a 2735 02:41:46,650 --> 02:41:50,160 year of more than a year ago. And we got it from these two 2736 02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:53,820 women. Do you know anything about COVID Dix shrinkage? 2737 02:41:53,940 --> 02:42:00,540 Unknown: Yeah, okay, so remember that it's proof it's COVID COVID 2738 02:42:00,540 --> 02:42:02,190 David dish rendering 2739 02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:04,860 John C Dvorak: that was I think that was his shows off the rails 2740 02:42:04,860 --> 02:42:05,820 at that mark 2741 02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:10,050 Adam Curry: that's why I stopped it all right. What give me some 2742 02:42:10,290 --> 02:42:10,890 light yeah 2743 02:42:10,890 --> 02:42:14,250 John C Dvorak: over the over that guy over hold whatever the 2744 02:42:14,250 --> 02:42:18,720 hell is poster home Oh, Mr. White He's making himself sick 2745 02:42:18,900 --> 02:42:21,840 at this point. I think you're right that's a very good you 2746 02:42:21,840 --> 02:42:24,630 know how you can just get yourself again using that term 2747 02:42:24,630 --> 02:42:28,410 spun up yeah, he's just doing it to himself the poor guy I feel 2748 02:42:28,410 --> 02:42:33,510 sorry for him okay, this is this is the update on Niger this our 2749 02:42:33,510 --> 02:42:36,480 African story right at the end of the show, so people can't 2750 02:42:36,480 --> 02:42:40,470 complain you know, you can't is it Niger on the show and we got 2751 02:42:40,470 --> 02:42:43,770 the funny stuff coming up after this is Nigeria or nice air. 2752 02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:49,590 Nice air. Okay. So this is the nice air clip and it just the 2753 02:42:49,590 --> 02:42:53,610 update and it's interesting because of the very ending the 2754 02:42:53,610 --> 02:42:56,640 little ending at the end make sure go what, here we go 2755 02:42:56,850 --> 02:42:59,910 Unknown: share, the first set of French soldiers have started to 2756 02:42:59,910 --> 02:43:03,810 withdraw from the country after orders by nushares military 2757 02:43:03,810 --> 02:43:07,260 junta following their July takeover in the capital in the 2758 02:43:07,260 --> 02:43:10,920 AMA. Residents welcomed the French soldiers departure 2759 02:43:11,460 --> 02:43:15,990 event today this batch of French soldiers who arrived in who will 2760 02:43:15,990 --> 02:43:20,520 God willing shortly be taking to the role to return home and is 2761 02:43:20,520 --> 02:43:23,670 only the culmination of a struggle that the people have 2762 02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:28,230 engaged in. People are on their feet to demand the departure of 2763 02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:32,640 the French soldiers from Niger soil, because one thing is 2764 02:43:32,640 --> 02:43:37,170 certain Niger remains for the people love Niger. 2765 02:43:37,650 --> 02:43:40,650 This comes as the US formally designated the ouster of 2766 02:43:40,650 --> 02:43:43,710 President Mohammed Bazoom and military takeover as a coup 2767 02:43:43,710 --> 02:43:47,310 suspending a two new Share. But US officials say they do not 2768 02:43:47,310 --> 02:43:51,030 plan to remove any of its 1000 military personnel from new 2769 02:43:51,030 --> 02:43:51,480 Share. 2770 02:43:53,040 --> 02:43:58,620 John C Dvorak: What what I said? What are we doing? We have we're 2771 02:43:58,920 --> 02:44:01,440 just so the French are rousted and we still have our troops 2772 02:44:01,440 --> 02:44:05,670 there. And we don't plan to move anything. Yeah, screw you. We 2773 02:44:05,670 --> 02:44:08,280 got our place and then we're still you know, we're a kick ass 2774 02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:12,690 country. It's unbelievable. 2775 02:44:14,970 --> 02:44:17,490 Adam Curry: You know, they say that the Empire is in decline, 2776 02:44:17,490 --> 02:44:19,350 and sometimes it kind of feels like see 2777 02:44:19,350 --> 02:44:20,850 John C Dvorak: no evidence of this. 2778 02:44:23,280 --> 02:44:25,830 Adam Curry: Well, maybe for you in California, everything's all 2779 02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:30,480 hunky dory. I don't know. It's not it's not feeling so great. 2780 02:44:30,750 --> 02:44:31,350 Unknown: But okay, 2781 02:44:31,380 --> 02:44:34,320 Adam Curry: there's no real empire that EU they're in 2782 02:44:34,320 --> 02:44:37,590 decline. They're They're up shits Creek. The EU has 2783 02:44:37,740 --> 02:44:42,360 reopened. I know. That's the funny thing about it. Thanks to 2784 02:44:42,360 --> 02:44:46,020 us. Was that it? Was that was that your end? That's the final 2785 02:44:46,020 --> 02:44:47,070 one. We'll do it. 2786 02:44:47,580 --> 02:44:49,830 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's an Africa clips. So there you go. 2787 02:44:49,950 --> 02:44:51,960 Adam Curry: Good work. Well, I don't think we have anything 2788 02:44:51,960 --> 02:44:56,190 else that I think we've we've kind of covered it all. For 2789 02:44:56,190 --> 02:44:59,340 today as best we can as best we can. Well, that's good news 2790 02:44:59,340 --> 02:45:05,130 because We're going to end everything with oh man some end 2791 02:45:05,130 --> 02:45:07,500 of show mixes and we got 2792 02:45:07,950 --> 02:45:09,840 John C Dvorak: these are beauties by the way for people 2793 02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:11,610 out there don't hang up I'm going to do 2794 02:45:11,610 --> 02:45:14,220 Adam Curry: the bomb them again mix those throw that in there 2795 02:45:14,220 --> 02:45:18,870 since it was topical. We got Maddie J miracle wolf it's a 2796 02:45:18,870 --> 02:45:23,610 brand new ones. Up next I know AGENDA stream.com We have let me 2797 02:45:23,610 --> 02:45:28,800 see. ABS and a six pack with Sir seat sitter and special guests 2798 02:45:28,800 --> 02:45:32,700 midnight Mike from OB Diem. Whoa, you do not want to miss 2799 02:45:32,700 --> 02:45:37,140 that. at all, no agenda stream.com With that modern 2800 02:45:37,140 --> 02:45:42,960 podcast app I know that you are using for podcast apps.com More 2801 02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:45,990 deconstruction on Sunday coming to you from the heart of the 2802 02:45:45,990 --> 02:45:48,300 Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six in the 2803 02:45:48,300 --> 02:45:50,400 morning, everybody. I am Adam curry, 2804 02:45:50,910 --> 02:45:53,250 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I think 2805 02:45:53,250 --> 02:45:56,370 we'd kind of get our summer Finally, I'm John C. Dvorak. 2806 02:45:56,430 --> 02:45:59,730 Adam Curry: We return on 2807 02:45:59,730 --> 02:46:02,400 Unknown: Sunday. Right here. 2808 02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:07,230 Adam Curry: Please remember us at devora.org/na Until then, 2809 02:46:07,230 --> 02:46:09,780 adios mofos who we who he adds 2810 02:46:21,420 --> 02:46:27,030 Unknown: I'm gonna I'm gonna bomb bomb. I'm gonna I'm gonna 2811 02:46:27,930 --> 02:46:34,470 I'm gonna bomb bomb out of I'm gonna. I'm gonna I'm gonna bomb 2812 02:46:34,470 --> 02:46:38,760 bomb. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna. 2813 02:47:25,890 --> 02:47:44,430 You 30 to 50% of the population had relations back to Germany. 2814 02:47:44,910 --> 02:47:48,750 So there had to be this very clever propaganda campaign. It's 2815 02:47:48,750 --> 02:47:51,090 known today as babies on bayonets. 2816 02:47:53,490 --> 02:47:57,930 I can think of my nephew gathered in the mud, the bodies 2817 02:47:57,960 --> 02:48:01,800 of lifeless children suspected of being poisoned in a chemical 2818 02:48:01,800 --> 02:48:05,820 attack, allegedly orchestrated by their own government. We have 2819 02:48:05,820 --> 02:48:06,270 all seen 2820 02:48:06,270 --> 02:48:09,210 the reports of the terrible chemical weapons attack in 2821 02:48:09,210 --> 02:48:13,200 Syria. They took the babies out of incubators, and let the 2822 02:48:13,200 --> 02:48:13,740 children to 2823 02:48:15,870 --> 02:48:19,140 the incubators. And they were thrown out of the incubators so 2824 02:48:19,140 --> 02:48:23,280 that Kuwait could be systematically dismantled 14 2825 02:48:23,370 --> 02:48:27,630 babies and young children babies being bathed in kill to even 2826 02:48:27,660 --> 02:48:28,230 beheaded 2827 02:48:28,620 --> 02:48:30,450 babies and toddlers were found 2828 02:48:30,480 --> 02:48:34,230 babies and young children with their heads copper children with 2829 02:48:34,350 --> 02:48:35,160 their head 2830 02:48:35,160 --> 02:48:37,470 deep headed. Babies found 2831 02:48:37,470 --> 02:48:39,720 dead next to that carts that has been 2832 02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:43,770 through for civilized countries of this world to do everything 2833 02:48:43,770 --> 02:48:50,010 within their power to remove this scourge. From the face of 2834 02:48:50,010 --> 02:48:50,490 our Earth, 2835 02:48:50,610 --> 02:48:53,580 emotions drive wars, not facts. 2836 02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:57,540 It is sort of evil that it's beyond comprehension. Beyond the 2837 02:48:57,540 --> 02:48:58,620 Leon the lake. 2838 02:49:01,050 --> 02:49:03,000 It took the babies and incubators 2839 02:49:03,300 --> 02:49:04,020 is a bomb. 2840 02:49:04,259 --> 02:49:06,779 This is a fuse. This bomb has to be filled. 2841 02:49:07,259 --> 02:49:17,549 Thomas is the original snack. Pay attention please. It's a 2842 02:49:17,579 --> 02:49:25,919 classic tale of an authoritarian and this little tale of 2843 02:49:25,919 --> 02:49:38,039 extremism. And sadly, so many of those extremists are determined 2844 02:49:38,099 --> 02:49:43,589 to return to a place where you know people could be in charge 2845 02:49:43,589 --> 02:49:49,859 of their lives feel empowered, say what they want. So it is 2846 02:49:49,859 --> 02:49:50,549 like a tautology. 2847 02:49:55,710 --> 02:49:59,460 In order to try to end our democracy, there needs to be 2848 02:49:59,760 --> 02:50:06,990 more multiprogramming of the cult members gun control and 2849 02:50:06,990 --> 02:50:12,450 climate change in the economy and taxes. What is it you want 2850 02:50:14,580 --> 02:50:20,700 to make America great again? Tonight don't say that 2851 02:50:37,320 --> 02:50:41,490 oppo vora.org/in A 2852 02:50:42,300 --> 02:50:44,880 there is just not enough of Taylor Swift