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Adam Curry: Girls beat me up.
Adam curry Jhansi Devora October

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1 2023 This Year Award winning
chemo nation media assassination

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episode 1595. This is no agenda
favoring favelas and

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broadcasting live from the heart
of Texas Hill Country here in

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FEMA Region number six. In the
morning, everybody. I'm I'm

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sorry,

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John C Dvorak: Ken from Northern
Silicon Valley. We're Canada's

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not requiring podcasters to
register yet. I'm Justin

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Adam Curry: Hill. Well, I didn't
expect this to be the first item

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on the menu. But I have I have
some thoughts about this.

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John C Dvorak: Well, as you as
everyone knows, yes, for the

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last 20 years, yes, I've been
predicting this, predicting what

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exactly that we are going to
eventually have to register as

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podcasters. Well,

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Adam Curry: but we already have
a podcast license, so we're kind

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of good to go.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that was
that's our hope. The actually

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the good just grandfather, our
podcast licensees in that would

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Adam Curry: easily. So the idea
is that now Canada already had a

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candidate by the way, I'm not
against the basic premise of if

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you have a publicly funded while
it's raining i crazier if you

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have publicly funded media,
which Canada does they also have

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commercial radio, but let's just
publicly funded media. And then

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John C Dvorak: put bubbles, they
funded their newspapers.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, well, that's,
that's a different story, put

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that off to the side, stick a
pin in it. And France does this.

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And I think the UK had some
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if you're playing music as an
example, you need to play a

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certain amount of national
product. And if it's Public

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Media, I'm not necessarily
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morphed into the online, what do
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which is the Canadian regulator.
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services, regulation. And to me,
that still is for music and not

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necessarily for Canadian news or
anything like that. There's

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really, although we're starting
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there's really not a lot of
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they say, Well, yeah, we need
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have to have podcast companies
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content and generate more than
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to also register. And so that's
kind of being turned into Oh,

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it'll be podcast as well. So I
think there's a lot of people

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jumping on this trying to make a
big noise and you know, so that

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they pay attention to them.
Yeah, I'm a podcaster. Not him

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over my dead body. Jordan
Peterson, that Jordan Peterson

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he just might make $10 million.
I don't know. But this would be

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more for literally an outfit
like like the daily wire even

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though I doubt the day as an
American company have to

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register in Canada. And that's
kind of the crazy thing about it

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is like it's you have to be in
Canada, or do you have to have

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do you have to talk to Canada if
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what do they want to do with
this? It makes no sense. Makes

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no sense. Hello, hello? Yeah,
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eventually there will be
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that'll happen here. But Canada
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was in Houston yesterday

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John C Dvorak: yes you went to
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Adam Curry: I did I did for the
Spark Media Ignite conference. I

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don't spark me it's it's a
podcast conference for God

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casters I did the keynote

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John C Dvorak: how many God
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Are you the podcaster and the
what podcasts are God casts you

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put together put God God cast
God caster for God cast a good

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podcast they surprised

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Adam Curry: me with a lifetime
achievement award which I was

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not expecting. Which is always
kind of weird. It's like this My

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life is over now. I'm done.
Thanks for your ad you know, I

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was like you know it feels like
oh man. I don't feel good about

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John C Dvorak: like it's called
the pathetic End of Life Award

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that they give out to people
that maybe could have won some

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more awards this give you this
and you can die in peace

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Adam Curry: Yeah, I guess that
was it. That was it there's

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there's God casters have quite
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guys. They have millions of
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That's pretty pretty big. But
you know what you do? On here at

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a god caster conference. You
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you and say, Hey man, how many
downloads you got? That you

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don't hear? Not from a single
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John C Dvorak: any of you heard
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Adam Curry: In the podcast
industrial complex. Oh, yeah. Oh

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absolutely, man, how many
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show? How is horrible? It's

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John C Dvorak: already always
did you always end with the

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Belch? No.

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Adam Curry: No, this horrible
people are horrible. But

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John C Dvorak: bless because
they know that anyone in the in

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the in the god casting business
have relatively no doubt. It's

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Adam Curry: That's not true.
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surprised to see that. The
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was the audience as I said,
again, as I said, the Focus on

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the Family podcast. Let's guys
have like 4 million listeners

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John C Dvorak: I think people
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Adam Curry: you know, they're
big no agenda, guys, they send

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they talk about us all the time.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's
nice. I don't see it in today's

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Adam Curry: Speaking of speaking
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that we that we at least do
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Public Radio, they're going to
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which first of all, it's
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many people? Do you think they
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radio station in New York? And
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when I worked at z 100 in New
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market at the time in the in the
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people and that included Bubba
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prize man. How many people do
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WNYC implies

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John C Dvorak: employs more than
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Adam Curry: full time employees

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John C Dvorak: they had to cut
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you know that? That's 30 people
that's the number people are

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cutting or less than the total
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Adam Curry: So you have the
radio lab. You've heard the

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radio lab podcast, radio you've
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work on that show alone 22 I
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and radio anyway, the listen to

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Laugh all
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coffers, you know.

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Adam Curry: But it's not really
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it's they get very little from,
you know, they get from the big

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foundations. That's where they
get their money. LaFawn TIF

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John C Dvorak: foundation money,
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Adam Curry: president and CEO
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That's your problem right there.
You got a CEO named LaFontaine

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Oliver. That's an expensive
operation. Where'd this guy come

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from? The Ford Foundation sounds
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expensive. He said in a memo to
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where did they get their money
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John C Dvorak: public coffers,

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Adam Curry: in a memo sent to
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fall in the advertising market
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John C Dvorak: This reminds me
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it because kind of part of this.
I'm been listening to NPR. Yeah.

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ad with a call to action. You
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bait they gave the website the
whole thing is completely out of

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Adam Curry: And we knew this in
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complaining about NPR selling
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sponsored or brought to you by
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is and they had a downfall in
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Unknown: to money. How are NPR
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revenues holding up in the
recession? And what about

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foundation grants? So this

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Adam Curry: so there you go.
That's that was that was the

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question. He was the lady who
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Underwriting is underwriting is

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is down it's down for everybody.
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is the area that is most down
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underwriting advertising, call
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Adam Curry: it, whatever you
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The same people who sell radio
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commercial stations. Sell NPR
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a farce farce. I love the word
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John C Dvorak: because it's a
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Adam Curry: sounds so much like
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force force force force anyway
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John C Dvorak: answer over 300
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Adam Curry: I really don't know.
I really don't know I mean 22

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everyone when it's all over this
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billion dollars everyone got all
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award. But I got a lot of what
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John C Dvorak: kind of an award
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it a big thing like a sumo
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Adam Curry: It's like a wrestler
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John C Dvorak: Give it you know,
I've said this. I don't want to

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Okay, please. We should have the
no agenda podcasting awards.

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Make something official. We're
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it comes to what's good and
what's bad in the world of

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podcasting. And we should do the
award I wouldn't award ceremony

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and those little glass things
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Adam Curry: didn't look cheap
and look nice. Look my car we

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don't even even have to give the
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John C Dvorak: anything.
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It doesn't matter. Yeah. But it
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But yeah, well, just beside the
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Awards. Now the we bought media
dot award, we keep

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Adam Curry: talking about this.
And we'll you know, we'll be

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long gone. And people remember
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John C Dvorak: things. So I
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upcoming year 2024 is the year
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we're going to do it. Do you
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I've always said this? I don't
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action. I hate it. Wow.

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Adam Curry: said Mr. Action,
please. Well, there's a lot of

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podcasts of words, that's a
problem. There must be fifth, I

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awards, was the Podcast Awards
by blueberry Todd you know the

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Todd runs those he's done them
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those entrance coolest color

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John C Dvorak: Why is it a loser
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Adam Curry: about a single one
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John C Dvorak: because they're
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John C Dvorak: that is a scam by
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Adam Curry: well, how do we make
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John C Dvorak: value for value?

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Adam Curry: Interesting. We can
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John C Dvorak: That's fine to
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Adam Curry: and we have the
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, maybe
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Adam Curry: All right. So the
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this colony reg D Y'all north of
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development that I we've only
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no 25,000 homesteads apparently
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where the migrants are now being
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the Texas Attorney General who
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is saying I'm gonna go after
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John C Dvorak: Sure they should.
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trailers, right? Yeah. And
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mostly trailer parks. Now. Do
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Adam Curry: That Well, I thought
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Katrina. Katrina. Yeah, it was
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the
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Adam Curry: I was talking to two
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on a mission to Brazil, and they
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shanty towns. And they said, No,
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interesting, because, you know,
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know, I have you been saved by
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beautiful televisions on the
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goes to your, to your basic idea
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just it's, you know, oh, we're
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don't see what what other what
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John C Dvorak: There is none. I
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Adam Curry: The Unlike Europe,
where they have completely gone

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to problem reaction, and here's
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muckety mucks got together, they
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sorry, it's irregular
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agreement, maybe close cherished
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Adam Curry: proposal gained a
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these people, they don't this is
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This. They're just this is
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it. And they're all getting
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John C Dvorak: I have to say, I
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admitted, admitted. Ministry
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it administrators state to an
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take this idea which the
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Adam Curry: It's unbelievable.
And they're all but they're all

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just hanging out, you know, the
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Malta, they go to Brussels is
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Unknown: because you have find
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states will support. And again,
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on the on the crisis proposal,
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Adam Curry: So just don't worry,
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you know what that means, don't
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everybody's getting some and you
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significant. It allows the EU to
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arriving in the block. It will
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external borders to deploy more
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Adam Curry: Don't worry, Moore's
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migrant processing centers,
everything's okay. We're not

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going to change anything, just
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it doesn't look so bad

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authorities ability to deal with
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Europe's shores this year. The
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not just to those working on the
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objections have been the last
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deal. Those failed just as the
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checkpoints at its borders,
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Adam Curry: Now this here's the
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the European Union will really
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is the euro, get rid of your
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you because we control your
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borders, Schengen, no borders,
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whatever you want work in any
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European promise. This was the
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States of Europe. You know, this
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in jeopardy without him. Then I
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control, but about reinforce
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Adam Curry: compensatory
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paid. That's not what that
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Come Yeah, exactly what it
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bring him in. But we just need
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itself. The free movement of
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of the block has been described
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of the European project men, the
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threatened that

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you came from the field as in a
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European Union's internal
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need this European solution.
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asylum applications this year,
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Adam Curry: I forgot that and
the Ukrainian refugees. And as

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we discussed in the last show,
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Nations project it's been going
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document that I put in the show
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replacement document from 2000.
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decline. So we need to watch
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John C Dvorak: for Where did you
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Adam Curry: is from his own,
from his own un study here for

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its own merits and consistent
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John C Dvorak: published this,
the UN, for its most UN has got

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Adam Curry: well for its own
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is Henry Kissinger, and
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recommendations of the world
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priority should be given in the
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development policies in sectors
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increased motivation for smaller
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pilot programs and experimental
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guidance for later efforts on a
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your kids. The preferential
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Adam Curry: That's hard for me
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income of the poorest,
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John C Dvorak: I think it's more
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negative attitude here.

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Adam Curry: I'm sorry. But
where's this really coming from?

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You see these boats coming over?
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much the only thing the
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can find at least, this is all
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nongovernmental organizations,
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certain tasks. Austin has a
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John C Dvorak: to breathe air
now there's your exit strategy

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Adam Curry: resettle migrants
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States. Now listen to this

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migration gathered to try and
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Adam Curry: I like on even like
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The ministers responsible for
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for it. They're not they're not
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the European Minister ministers,
they have ministers whose job it

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migration gathered to try and
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proposed migration and asylum
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final deal. Spain, which
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presidency struck an upbeat tone
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underscored the need to tackle
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migration is today more than
ever unnecessary agreement we

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cannot do without it. It is one
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require flexibility, effort and
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open up for questions the US Top
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Johansson was also upbeat saying
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Adam Curry: this woman's a piece
of work this is this is Oh man,

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you know the hair, you know that
the jacket she's wearing, you

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know the jewel she's wearing.
And she's Oh, she's a beat

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Unknown: because I'm sure that
in a few days, we will also have

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the formal decision on the
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crisis proposal. And that is
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clash between Germany and Italy
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sticking point was over the role
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migrant rescue operations in the
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Adam Curry: So all you have to
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dangerous and then you send up
the flare and work period comes

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the NGO boat. Well, don't worry,
we'll take you to safety

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Organizational motivation,
nobody's waging a war against

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NGOs. We only say however, they
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of magnet to attract irregular
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the clock is ticking on sealing
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the migrant crisis in Europe.
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to be in place by February, with
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June. This was an estimated
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Adam Curry: So they have to get
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the elections. Why? Because
someone else comes in and then

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they get the NGO money, as
sounds very suspect. It's not

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good.

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John C Dvorak: It's interesting.
These NGOs are the are the

449
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,810
subversive, modern version of
subversive Marxist,

450
00:27:01,710 --> 00:27:05,610
Adam Curry: not even so
subversive. We just no one talks

451
00:27:05,610 --> 00:27:07,440
about them that no one has given

452
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,710
John C Dvorak: them and then the
government pays for it. Yeah. Be

453
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,580
like paying for your own demise.
I mean, and I'm gonna hire a

454
00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:16,800
hitman to go after me. And,

455
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,730
Adam Curry: and this stuff
happens all over our own

456
00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:25,290
country, where NGOs or
nonprofits, you know,

457
00:27:25,950 --> 00:27:30,030
advertising whatever you want to
call it. They get money from,

458
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,340
from city governments, local
municipalities, and they have no

459
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incentive at all to solve
problems. That's that's one of

460
00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:42,780
Austin's big problems. We got
homeless and I we need another

461
00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:47,490
$600 million to solve that
problem. They have and what do

462
00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:50,820
they do with it? Oh, let's go
buy hotels, let's stick them in

463
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:54,240
hotels, let's spend it on
hotels. The hotel thing is

464
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,070
phenomenal. It's really I mean,
this is. So now in Los Angeles,

465
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:03,120
even though it's not just
irregular migrants, which I

466
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:08,340
think is a great term. The
homeless, now Los Angeles has a

467
00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:14,010
solution. They're not going to
buy up hotels. No, no, no.

468
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:21,840
Here's the What is this outfit,
the America the hotel and

469
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:28,410
accommodation organization, the
LA chapter. They have not these

470
00:28:28,410 --> 00:28:30,660
guys. But the city has a
proposal what to do with

471
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homeless and irregular migrants
in Los Angeles. The fight that

472
00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:39,990
we have in Los Angeles is one of
the worst public policy ideas,

473
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,990
perhaps the worst public policy
idea I've ever heard of. And

474
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that is to take the homeless
population that deserve a

475
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:51,060
serious solution to a serious
problem. And try to patchwork

476
00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:56,130
that problem by placing them in
hotels alongside regular tours

477
00:28:56,130 --> 00:28:58,890
to families and paying guests.
This sounds great.

478
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,770
Unknown: And he's gonna tell us
why it's great. It is a disaster

479
00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:08,100
waiting to happen. It doesn't
help the homeless. I love the

480
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:12,330
industry almost overnight. I
mean, look, consumers have

481
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:14,760
choices. Look, they don't have
to go to Los Angeles, they only

482
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,100
have to go to California, they
can choose somewhere else. But

483
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if they want to go to the LA
area, they can simply choose a

484
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hotel outside of Los Angeles.
That's not that difficult. No

485
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:28,770
consumers can want to actively
make a selection where they know

486
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that a homeless population is
going to be in the room right

487
00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:36,180
next to them or at the swimming
pool or in the in the lobby. I

488
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:39,120
mean, these are people this
population that needs help. It

489
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,990
is a serious issue. They need
medical professional help. hotel

490
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:46,770
workers are not trained for this
and to put them in that type of

491
00:29:46,770 --> 00:29:51,750
danger. It is a terrible idea.
What we know for certain won't

492
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:55,680
work and should never even be
proposed is this idea of mixing

493
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that population with the regular
traveler, the mom and dad that

494
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,360
are trying to kill For kids on
vacation, right, terrible idea

495
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:05,730
that is dangerous for the
guests, but more importantly

496
00:30:05,730 --> 00:30:09,270
dangerous for the hotel workers
that have to come to work each

497
00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:12,210
and every day and try to deal
with a situation for which

498
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:15,120
they've never been trained.
Homelessness is a very serious

499
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,450
issue that we all believe should
be dealt with in a serious

500
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:23,400
manner. This particular proposal
is not serious. It's very

501
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,190
dangerous. We certainly want to
make sure it stops here in Los

502
00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:29,280
Angeles so that no other
municipality in the country try

503
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,360
something that's dangerous.

504
00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:33,600
Beyond your freedom

505
00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:43,650
John C Dvorak: about how about
making it a tourist attraction

506
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:50,400
kind of like us, you can live
next to a homeless stay at the

507
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,030
Hilton

508
00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:53,880
Adam Curry: at the swim with the
homeless. It's like swimming

509
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,880
with Adult Swim with the
homeless sickness lifts Swimming

510
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,810
with dolphins

511
00:30:57,870 --> 00:30:59,340
John C Dvorak: poop in the
halls.

512
00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:05,880
Adam Curry: Speaking of poop in
San Diego has a great idea.

513
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:08,669
Unknown: Many downtown public
restrooms have been overwhelmed

514
00:31:08,669 --> 00:31:13,139
by drug use people with mental
illnesses and sanitary issues,

515
00:31:13,169 --> 00:31:15,989
folks, especially families with
young children don't feel

516
00:31:15,989 --> 00:31:20,879
comfortable. And paying $15 for
a 15 minute bathroom break makes

517
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:23,909
a lot of sense. Hundreds of
people have been signing up for

518
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:27,119
the rest space app. Just as it
starts to make a name for

519
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:31,319
itself. Posts make 70% of the
fee and rest space takes 30

520
00:31:31,379 --> 00:31:34,319
Adam Curry: So you can rent out
your bathroom on an app.

521
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:36,390
John C Dvorak: Guys and

522
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:37,920
Adam Curry: people can poop in
your house like

523
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,220
John C Dvorak: ride sharing.
Shit sharing.

524
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:45,180
Adam Curry: It would have been a
great show title if it wasn't.

525
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,510
Yeah, share, share your bathroom
poop share. That's great. That

526
00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:54,300
means someone's gonna have to at
a certain point someone has to

527
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:58,170
say hey, I have a cause here my
causes this has to stop. This

528
00:31:58,170 --> 00:31:58,950
has to stop

529
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:01,890
John C Dvorak: to stop. It's not
gonna stop

530
00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:06,900
Adam Curry: boots on the ground.
The Biden is in administration.

531
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:11,430
This is an ice boots on the
ground has turned ice ready into

532
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:16,560
a travel agency. They stopped
apprehending anyone because they

533
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,350
do what they're instructed to
do, which was a lease and often

534
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:21,720
have to facilitate
transportation to other states

535
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,090
as requested by the detained
illegal. They've largely just

536
00:32:27,090 --> 00:32:30,270
stopped working because they
have no authority to go to North

537
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:34,230
Dakota to do anything to enforce
immigration laws, even if they

538
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:38,430
are criminals. So ice is you
know, we were talking about the

539
00:32:38,430 --> 00:32:40,980
small town cop who couldn't even
get ice on the phone just kept

540
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:45,840
getting voicemail because they
can pay. They're getting paid to

541
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,260
sit at a desk, go to the gym,
and just wait for the next

542
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,990
administration to come in which
may or may not be better you

543
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:52,620
never know.

544
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,980
John C Dvorak: Well, it sounds
like a people job. You're

545
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:58,500
looking for a job that's the
place to work.

546
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:03,900
Adam Curry: Now, if you thought
that was bad, the land of Abba,

547
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:11,670
the land of Spotify, the land of
the Swedish Chef is falling

548
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:12,480
apart.

549
00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:15,030
Unknown: Swedish Prime Minister
of christison has vowed to

550
00:33:15,030 --> 00:33:18,600
defeat criminal gangs after
recent surge and violent attacks

551
00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:21,750
is Collins's photo a series of
explosions reportedly connected

552
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:25,470
to a gang war. The centre right
politicians slammed quote

553
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:30,690
irresponsible immigration and
failed integration. On Thursday,

554
00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:33,630
Kristen also said he had someone
to the head of the military to

555
00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:36,660
discuss how the armed forces can
help police deal with this

556
00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:40,230
unprecedented crime wave on
Monday and Tuesday, two powerful

557
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:42,360
blasts ripped through
residential buildings in the

558
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,030
center of the country injuring
at least three people while

559
00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:47,280
three others were killed
overnight Wednesday and separate

560
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,610
attacks. bombings and drive by
shootings have claimed dozens of

561
00:33:50,610 --> 00:33:54,090
lives in September alone two
gangs one led by a Swedish

562
00:33:54,090 --> 00:33:57,480
Turkish June national who lives
in Turkey the other bias former

563
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,390
lieutenants are reportedly
involved in the feud over drugs

564
00:34:00,390 --> 00:34:01,260
and weapons.

565
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:04,050
Adam Curry: That is gang warfare
now.

566
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:09,450
John C Dvorak: This gang warfare
inserts right

567
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,140
Adam Curry: in Sweden. Well
place doesn't sound right and

568
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:15,150
John C Dvorak: says all sounds
sweet and come on mouth.

569
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:21,030
Adam Curry: South squeed. Malmo?
Yeah, sure. Yeah. In New York

570
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:25,380
City, they almost had the right
idea knows how we got all these

571
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,190
irregular migrants and I'm just
making jokes about it. These of

572
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:32,790
course, are people. I mean, we
can we can't stop seeing them as

573
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:36,240
human beings. They tried to wash
them off the streets.

574
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:39,599
Unknown: It's a historic deluge
in the New York City area, which

575
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:43,439
has drenched the locals. Heavy
rainfall caused significant

576
00:34:43,439 --> 00:34:46,979
disruption to communities public
transport and flooded several

577
00:34:46,979 --> 00:34:50,549
basements. As authorities
scramble the downpour brought

578
00:34:50,549 --> 00:34:53,729
back the memory of hurricane
Ida, which dumped record

579
00:34:53,729 --> 00:34:57,299
breaking rain on the northeast
and killed at least 13 people in

580
00:34:57,299 --> 00:34:59,339
the Big Apple in 2021.

581
00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:04,410
Listen is not an ordinary
rainfall. This is historic. We

582
00:35:04,410 --> 00:35:08,670
are on track to possibly create
a new record of 10 inches of

583
00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:12,990
rain falling in literally 24
hours last time we even had this

584
00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:17,130
number was in 1955 and that was
over a two day periods.

585
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:22,110
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. So
what's what do we have climate

586
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:23,700
change in 1955?

587
00:35:25,230 --> 00:35:28,290
John C Dvorak: Okay, so but now
she's you look at the list. This

588
00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:32,940
is like number nine on the list
of rainfalls in one day in New

589
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:37,260
York and most of them took place
in the year two, first decade of

590
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:40,440
2000 was a lot of stuff that
goes beyond way back. Yeah. And

591
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,730
this is not that big of a deal.
Although it happened it just the

592
00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:46,320
way I hear it. I have two clips.

593
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,890
Adam Curry: Let me let me finish
this. And because a resident

594
00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:52,200
here tells you what the real
problem is. And I've received

595
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,500
several

596
00:35:52,530 --> 00:35:55,530
John C Dvorak: emails, they may
have what I have a lot under

597
00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:55,800
root

598
00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:57,480
Adam Curry: now I'll just finish
this this is not

599
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:00,870
Unknown: this is Hurricane Ida
level water.

600
00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:05,040
According to the weather and
city officials by 2:30pm. local

601
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,270
time, as much as 15 centimeters
of rain was recorded in several

602
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:13,140
areas, including Brooklyn, lower
Manhattan and John F. Kennedy

603
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:16,530
International Airport, the city
had been experiencing during the

604
00:36:16,530 --> 00:36:20,190
week mostly steady rainfall,
which triggered a flash flood in

605
00:36:20,190 --> 00:36:23,970
the area. As the rain briefly
slowed, residents emerge from

606
00:36:23,970 --> 00:36:27,420
their homes to take stock of the
damage and begin draining the

607
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:28,020
water.

608
00:36:28,170 --> 00:36:31,620
They were coming from the
ground, because there are no

609
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:35,190
drainage system from this
location, all the rainwater,

610
00:36:35,340 --> 00:36:38,760
they are not able to drain out
from this area. So it's coming

611
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,780
into our house.

612
00:36:39,810 --> 00:36:42,390
Adam Curry: Now. That's what the
residents say you got no drains

613
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:44,670
work and the sewers aren't
right. But that's not what the

614
00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:47,460
news is, you know, we are
really, really suffering.

615
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:50,670
Unknown: Systems producing more
intense rainfalls have become

616
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:53,790
more commonplace in many parts
of the United States due to the

617
00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:57,450
climate crisis. Scientists say
more extreme and intense weather

618
00:36:57,450 --> 00:37:00,660
patterns are set to become the
norm across the globe. As the

619
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:02,730
situation gets worse, yes, it's

620
00:37:02,730 --> 00:37:04,530
Adam Curry: climate change, of
course.

621
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:09,240
John C Dvorak: So this happened
in 2011. It was the storm of the

622
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,300
century, it was the worst thing
ever. And it did the exact same

623
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,120
thing in New York. And it was
during our show, remember most

624
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,620
of these these stories, we have
reliable events through 10s of

625
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:23,760
millions of dollars at fixing
the infrastructure. And I know

626
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,640
what happened basic contractors
say that was a once in a

627
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,090
lifetime thing. Nothing's going
to happen again in our entire

628
00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:33,360
lives. Let's just pocket the
money and do nothing. I think

629
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,350
you're right. That's exactly
what his only excuse because now

630
00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:40,650
it does. Some of the pictures
are fabulous. They have this one

631
00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:44,820
shot of inside one of the subway
stations and water squirting out

632
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:46,350
of those white tiles.

633
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:49,290
Adam Curry: This and this is not
a new I mean, I used to live in

634
00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:51,780
New York In New Jersey, we got
flooding like this. We had the

635
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:54,990
subway stations flood I mean,
it's I remember this.

636
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,440
John C Dvorak: So they they took
the money and ran it. They did

637
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,280
nothing. And then everyone
blamed great problems. Climate

638
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,910
change is the world's greatest,
greatest excuse to do nothing

639
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:06,210
and I'm

640
00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:10,380
Adam Curry: going to change my
stance. Because climate change

641
00:38:10,410 --> 00:38:12,900
is 100% manmade.

642
00:38:14,370 --> 00:38:17,370
John C Dvorak: Yes, I know what
you're saying. It's 100%

643
00:38:17,370 --> 00:38:20,100
Adam Curry: manmade for sure.
I'm all in.

644
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,240
John C Dvorak: And by that of
course you mean that's been

645
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,260
created the whole idea of quote
created the whole hoax. Yes. I

646
00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:31,620
got two clips on these floods as
New York City floods one.

647
00:38:33,810 --> 00:38:36,960
Unknown: In New York City, up to
five inches of rain fell in some

648
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,230
areas overnight into Friday
following a week of steady

649
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:43,860
rainfall. A flash flood warning
was in effect for the city until

650
00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:47,550
midday and Mayor Eric Adams
urged people to stay put if

651
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:48,240
possible.

652
00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:52,140
I am issuing a state of
emergency for New York City

653
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,380
based emergencies and want to
say to a

654
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:58,230
Adam Curry: state of emergency.
It's

655
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,350
John C Dvorak: not a state of
emergency. It's a state of an

656
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:03,840
emergency. That's right. I'm the
mayor.

657
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,620
Unknown: I am issuing a state of
emergency for New York City.

658
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,570
Adam Curry: I mean, that alone
is like don't you just think

659
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,910
okay, well, we're screwed. We're
screwed

660
00:39:12,090 --> 00:39:15,030
Unknown: based on the weather
conditions. And I want to say to

661
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:19,290
all New Yorkers, this is time
for heightened alertness and

662
00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:25,410
extreme caution. If you are home
stay home if you are at work or

663
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:27,840
school shelter in place.

664
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,870
Adam Curry: Shelter in Place

665
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:33,210
John C Dvorak: shelter in place
if you're at school for how

666
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:33,840
long?

667
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:38,010
Unknown: The city reported no
storm related deaths or critical

668
00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:41,580
injuries as of Friday afternoon,
but the floods caused major

669
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:45,030
disruptions to the city's subway
system and the Metro North

670
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:48,030
commuter rail service. The
rainfall also shut down

671
00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:51,390
Manhattan's FDR Drive and
delayed flights at LaGuardia

672
00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:52,140
Airport

673
00:39:52,169 --> 00:39:55,019
Adam Curry: it would have been
funnier if he said shelter in

674
00:39:55,019 --> 00:39:58,169
place and wear a mask that would
have now that would have been

675
00:39:58,169 --> 00:39:59,729
dynamite their significant

676
00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:03,030
Unknown: portion To the subway
system that are shut down. We

677
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:07,950
are starting the process of
reactivating certain lines. But

678
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:11,280
when water covers the
electrified third rail we have

679
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,300
to do inspections. Yeah. So that
that will be unfolding slowly.

680
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,270
Adam Curry: Okay. The subway
Yeah, no other great is a little

681
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:22,500
short with

682
00:40:22,919 --> 00:40:26,039
Unknown: some 18 million people
in the New York metropolitan

683
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:29,519
area and in other major cities
along the east coast. We're

684
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:34,529
under flood warnings, watches
and advisories. New York

685
00:40:34,529 --> 00:40:38,099
Governor Kathy Hogle declared a
state of emergency for New York

686
00:40:38,099 --> 00:40:40,889
City, Long Island and the Hudson
Valley.

687
00:40:43,050 --> 00:40:47,280
John C Dvorak: So yeah, nobody
died. It can't be that bad.

688
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:51,000
Adam Curry: No, dad. Yeah, I got
a stepdaughter in Brooklyn.

689
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,550
She's not calling crime. Like,
in bro. Brooklyn was supposed to

690
00:40:56,550 --> 00:41:00,360
be one of the main places. But
yeah, I mean, this is what

691
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,260
happens. And especially these
airports, come on, look at the

692
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:06,060
location. Look at how they're
set up.

693
00:41:06,090 --> 00:41:08,280
John C Dvorak: Look at what
they're built on a flood. Yeah,

694
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,060
exactly.

695
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:10,650
Adam Curry: Like, hello.

696
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:14,610
John C Dvorak: Yes, because it's
a nice flat area. That's what

697
00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:15,150
you do.

698
00:41:16,650 --> 00:41:19,170
Adam Curry: Well, it's good
communication mechanism, climate

699
00:41:19,170 --> 00:41:21,150
change, climate change.

700
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:23,790
John C Dvorak: I do have some
other kind of another clip about

701
00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:27,810
New York. That is I think more
interesting because I was

702
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:30,480
thinking about it. You bet you
lived in New York. You've been

703
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,060
in New York. Everyone who's ever
been in New York knows about

704
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:38,880
these garbage. piles of garbage
on the street 24/7 Sure. Well,

705
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,810
they're going to finally decide
to go to bins like every other

706
00:41:42,810 --> 00:41:44,610
civilized part of the world

707
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,760
Adam Curry: like so we can have
the bin police like in the in

708
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,890
the bin Belize and bullied
because

709
00:41:49,890 --> 00:41:53,280
John C Dvorak: of the rats. Yes,
a rat Roush is New York City's

710
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:56,310
Unknown: now for a story about
fighting an all too common urban

711
00:41:56,310 --> 00:42:00,810
scourge rats. Decades New
Yorkers thrown out their garbage

712
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,800
in plastic. Wait, is

713
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,390
Adam Curry: this that 342 person
station WNYC in New York, is

714
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:07,530
that what I'm hearing here?

715
00:42:08,010 --> 00:42:10,620
John C Dvorak: Well, it's it is
a public it's public

716
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:12,960
broadcasting. So it could be
bags on

717
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,200
Unknown: City sidewalks. They
haven't used bins bins until

718
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,770
now. City officials are starting
to require more hard sided trash

719
00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:20,400
containers.

720
00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:26,670
Adam Curry: Homosassa why are we
in America using the term bins?

721
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:33,780
This is not an American word. We
don't say dust bin was a trash

722
00:42:33,780 --> 00:42:37,050
can I mean trash will

723
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:39,810
John C Dvorak: you know i Here's
that I this is interesting as

724
00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:43,260
you bring this up. This is
classic news deconstruction

725
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,380
Adam Curry: There you go. Here
we go standby everybody. So I've

726
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:46,680
got

727
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:51,240
John C Dvorak: bins in in the
whole east Bay's because his

728
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,510
waste management companies
generally runs most of it. Yeah,

729
00:42:54,540 --> 00:42:57,570
the most of they have these bins
in the big garbage trucks come

730
00:42:57,570 --> 00:43:00,840
by they grab the bins with the
big cook and they pull it over

731
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,280
and dump it in. And these things
cans to me because we used to

732
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,750
have garbage cans was in memory.
The garbage cans is a big

733
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:15,240
galvanized can't like a giant
can with a lid tightly fits.

734
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:19,740
Right and I think the square
buildings bins that have a flip

735
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:23,580
lid that get dumped into the
truck is a bin I think I've

736
00:43:23,580 --> 00:43:26,820
always thought of it as a bin
but you're right it and it's not

737
00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:29,580
a can. We don't have to be made
out of metal.

738
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:31,890
Adam Curry: But we don't
typically talk about bins in

739
00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:37,290
America bins is a UK thing. I
know. Yeah. You're

740
00:43:37,290 --> 00:43:38,310
John C Dvorak: right by the word

741
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:40,110
Adam Curry: being just, it's
okay.

742
00:43:40,259 --> 00:43:43,229
John C Dvorak: It's not going to
vote into the vocabulary. It

743
00:43:43,229 --> 00:43:44,159
doesn't we can do about it.

744
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Adam Curry: But here in Texas,
we will not say Ben Oh, you

745
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,470
don't say bins. Bins though. We
know No. That's trash cans trash

746
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:56,100
bucket. I don't say anything but
bins. We don't talk about bins.

747
00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:59,310
Unknown: They haven't used bins
names. Until now. City officials

748
00:43:59,310 --> 00:44:02,280
are starting to require more
hard sided trash containers.

749
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:05,040
That is Austin cope reports.
They hope it will slow the

750
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,750
city's growing rat population.

751
00:44:07,020 --> 00:44:09,480
It's a Friday night men hang out
and Michelle and I are standing

752
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,940
in front of a row of apartments
with a big stack of black trash

753
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:15,240
bags out in front. You can hear
a few very faint high pitched

754
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:16,290
squeaks in the background.

755
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,700
Right now we see just a bunch of
garbage that's out there. And we

756
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:26,040
see we hear rats actually making
noise. Saying hey, we'd been on

757
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,100
the radio to hip hop, they're
actually not quite close enough

758
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,070
to the mic. They make a lot of
loads, which is very scary

759
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:34,800
because if you walk down the
block, you never know they're

760
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,670
running right across your foot.
Who wants to get bit by a rat.

761
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:40,380
But what does that have to do
with the trash bags?

762
00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:44,520
A lot because they are inside
those bags. They are you scared

763
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,580
to walk by because they are in
there eating whatever's inside

764
00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:48,090
the bags.

765
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,370
So what would you do if you were
walking by these bags right now

766
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,210
across the street?

767
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:53,940
Adam Curry: Who is this expert
this expert on rats that they're

768
00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:54,540
talking to?

769
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,540
John C Dvorak: Like the expert
you had in the last couple of

770
00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:59,970
clips? This guy's like that
Mexican guy

771
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,550
Adam Curry: I'm an expert on
rats you know you got garbage

772
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:03,600
you get rat out well

773
00:45:03,630 --> 00:45:06,330
Unknown: industrially I do I
walk in the street really you

774
00:45:06,330 --> 00:45:08,130
know, but then you don't want to
cross over to the other side

775
00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:09,840
because these bags on the other
side too.

776
00:45:09,930 --> 00:45:12,270
This is exactly the kind of
thing officials here hoping to

777
00:45:12,270 --> 00:45:15,300
solve. New Yorkers put out
around 44 million pounds of

778
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:18,600
trash each day. Since the late
60s Most of it has gone right

779
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,750
under City Sidewalks like this
one. New Yorker ocean Thomas

780
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:23,400
says it's no wonder there's so
many routes

781
00:45:23,550 --> 00:45:26,550
when you visit other towns right
you one of the first things you

782
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:28,500
notice being a native New Yorker
is that while these tunnels are

783
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:31,860
so clean, and it doesn't stink,
and the thing that stands out

784
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:35,460
the most is that one, the trash
is not all over the place. And

785
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:38,880
if it is trash cans that are out
there contained.

786
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,270
Now the city started making
people put their waste in bins.

787
00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:45,990
Adam Curry: Now when I first
moved to New York City that was

788
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:53,820
before we had bins bins yet no
but no bins. Yeah, and the trash

789
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:58,110
was just outside. You know that
picked it up at night VP to come

790
00:45:58,110 --> 00:46:02,010
the trucks waste, man. Yeah, the
guys from New Jersey, the

791
00:46:02,010 --> 00:46:07,140
sopranos would pick it up. But
this was 1987 and New York was a

792
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:11,250
craphole. And we had rats, big
ones. And you see us walk down

793
00:46:11,250 --> 00:46:14,610
the street. Columbus, rats, no.

794
00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:17,280
John C Dvorak: Large cat sized
rat

795
00:46:17,310 --> 00:46:21,120
Adam Curry: in New York. New
York was in severe decline at

796
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,140
the time you need. This is I
gotta say it before Giuliani

797
00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:29,370
came in with Mayor Bratton. He
cleaned up the crime. Police

798
00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:33,720
Chief Bratton clean up the crime
and clean up the city. And so

799
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,700
this may be peak rat. And I
don't know you have another

800
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,160
clip. So I'm presuming you've
got more rat more

801
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,540
John C Dvorak: on a rat rat for

802
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:44,550
Unknown: the past couple of
months. Large businesses have to

803
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:47,310
do it in 30, restaurants,
grocery stores and other places

804
00:46:47,310 --> 00:46:51,120
that serve food. next March. All
businesses will have to private

805
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,490
residents don't yet but
officials say more rules are on

806
00:46:53,490 --> 00:46:56,100
the way. Finding where to put
all this garbage isn't

807
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,860
necessarily easy. Victor Edwards
lives in a neighborhood where

808
00:46:58,860 --> 00:47:00,930
the city is testing out new
containers in the streets.

809
00:47:02,010 --> 00:47:04,950
Adam Curry: We put the garbage
where we always put the garbage

810
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:06,690
Staten Island Hello

811
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,610
Unknown: Victor Edwards lives in
a neighborhood where the city is

812
00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:10,470
testing out new containers in
the street.

813
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,560
If you look across the street,
where cars are parked, you will

814
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,040
see that it takes up
approximately four parking

815
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,790
spaces.

816
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,040
Edwards leads a community board
that represents residents

817
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,710
opinions, he hopes the city can
plan for more than just the

818
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:23,370
past.

819
00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:25,680
We definitely want to get rid of
rats. I'm not saying I want to

820
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,710
live with rats. But by the same
token, I want to take in

821
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:32,460
consideration all the other
factors physically challenged

822
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:35,820
people who have to carry these
bags now and lift them up and

823
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:39,300
put them in seniors the same
thing and then pocking.

824
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:41,940
Officials hope to balance out
larger bins in the street with

825
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:44,790
smaller ones on the sidewalk.
But they say there'll be some

826
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:47,970
trade offs. Daniel Mills lives
in the Bronx and owns a car.

827
00:47:48,420 --> 00:47:50,790
She's okay with containers
industry since sometimes people

828
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:51,840
just throw their trash they're

829
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:55,890
taking up parking anyway. So I
would prefer the bins to be

830
00:47:55,890 --> 00:48:00,060
there in I don't have a problem
with sacrifice some parking.

831
00:48:00,330 --> 00:48:03,450
Some make sure that you know we
keep in the streets clean and

832
00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:04,650
cleared from garbage

833
00:48:04,770 --> 00:48:07,590
and for Tamika Jordan, it really
gets back to the rodents.

834
00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:11,430
No one wants to little Mickey
Mouse in that and now I'm very

835
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:12,480
afraid of that rat.

836
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,950
She hasn't had any at her place,
but she's seen some near where

837
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:20,460
she works. So it was more bins
go in cheese. Glad the rats will

838
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:22,260
have a harder time reaching
their next meal.

839
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:25,170
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm just
thinking about this logically, I

840
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,040
living in New York. Do you know
how many bins you need on the

841
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,450
street to

842
00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:35,160
John C Dvorak: a whole stop 42
million pounds of garbage a day?

843
00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:36,660
Let me think

844
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:38,550
Adam Curry: how many bins does
that make

845
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,780
John C Dvorak: lots of bins have
been businesses is a day makes

846
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:45,090
these bins and you've been
invest?

847
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:49,770
Adam Curry: Or do what European
countries have done. Like

848
00:48:49,770 --> 00:48:54,450
Rotterdam they went underground.
So you go outside and there's a

849
00:48:54,450 --> 00:48:59,220
shoot me you you drop your bags
down the chute they go they go.

850
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,400
That's a big hole. But it's you
know, you don't see it on the

851
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,280
top, just the entrance. But if
you threw a body in there, oh

852
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,580
yeah, it'd be fine. And then the
truck comes by and it has its

853
00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:13,080
own. And it pulls this whole
huge thing out of the ground and

854
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,730
dumps it into the truck. That's
the way to go. Except, you know,

855
00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:20,490
if you drill down in New York
City, you know the roads will be

856
00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:24,960
faldo's When you're gonna hit.
Now this of course, is one of

857
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,470
the big problems with our
pollution is a waste and the

858
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:33,330
waste is plastic. Plastic takes
up a lot of space, then, you

859
00:49:33,330 --> 00:49:36,540
know, we're just going to
replace it with more plastic

860
00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:40,680
bins. But luckily, scientists
scientists

861
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,530
John C Dvorak: have chopped the
bins up for plastic scientists

862
00:49:43,530 --> 00:49:46,920
Adam Curry: have a solution for
plastic. And I'm very excited

863
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,530
about this. This is a new
ecological breakthrough

864
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,280
Unknown: plastic pollution is a
looming global crisis. The world

865
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,240
now produces more than 380
million tons of it every year,

866
00:49:57,510 --> 00:50:01,950
and a man projected to triple by
26 Steel. At a glance this looks

867
00:50:01,950 --> 00:50:05,430
like your regular vanilla ice
cream. But the desert is the

868
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:10,590
first of its kind in the world
is derived from plastic waste.

869
00:50:10,890 --> 00:50:13,950
The process is developed by
scientists in Edinburgh and

870
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:17,340
harnesses the power of bacteria
and enzymes to break down the

871
00:50:17,340 --> 00:50:22,920
plastics polymers. No longer
plastic. The PTS are then

872
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,060
processed by another bacteria to
turn it into vanillin. The

873
00:50:27,060 --> 00:50:30,690
design is the idea was born from
frustration about the failure of

874
00:50:30,690 --> 00:50:33,990
the recycling system, and how it
cannot keep up with plastic

875
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:37,920
production. But scientists say
the ice cream very much remains

876
00:50:37,950 --> 00:50:41,580
a research project aren't quite
ready for consumption work, but

877
00:50:41,580 --> 00:50:44,430
rather a starting point to
rethink the way we approach

878
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:45,450
plastic waste.

879
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:49,710
Perhaps misconception around
what it actually is by the end

880
00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:52,950
of the process that is no longer
plastic. But I think it's part

881
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:55,170
of that we it is really
important that we take the

882
00:50:55,170 --> 00:50:58,590
safety side of it really, really
seriously and we make it very

883
00:50:58,590 --> 00:51:03,690
clear that this has to go
through processes and food

884
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:06,450
standard processes as any other
food ingredient.

885
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:10,110
Adam Curry: It'll be safe and
effective. Don't worry, it's all

886
00:51:10,110 --> 00:51:10,320
good.

887
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:12,990
John C Dvorak: safe and
effective. Recycle Plastic

888
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:13,650
Minella

889
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,290
Adam Curry: but they give you
enzyme so so you can dissolve

890
00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:18,510
it. Yeah, electrolytes.

891
00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:26,340
Now, you may be New York City is
bad. But that's nothing compared

892
00:51:26,340 --> 00:51:29,340
to France right now. And we know
that France is under attack. We

893
00:51:29,340 --> 00:51:33,060
know McCrone is under attack,
the French are not playing game

894
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:36,570
not playing ball. They got too
many nuclear plants. You know,

895
00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:42,030
they just pains in the asses.
The EU doesn't like him. They're

896
00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:46,680
tired of them. So let's give him
something to really really think

897
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,070
about

898
00:51:47,130 --> 00:51:49,470
Unknown: the French government
taking the extraordinary step

899
00:51:49,470 --> 00:51:53,250
today of rolling out a national
plan to stop an invasion and

900
00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:56,790
invasion of what appears to be
bedbugs infesting the country.

901
00:51:57,690 --> 00:51:59,310
John C Dvorak: By story again,
oh, this

902
00:51:59,310 --> 00:52:00,090
Adam Curry: is bad just

903
00:52:00,090 --> 00:52:02,430
Unknown: months before they're
supposed to host the Olympics.

904
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:06,090
And these bugs are not just in
their namesake beds. They're in

905
00:52:06,090 --> 00:52:10,170
trains in movie theaters. Out
there in the big airport in

906
00:52:10,170 --> 00:52:12,780
Paris. Look at this, you can see
here what looks to be a bedbug

907
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:15,570
crawling along the armrest of
one of the high speed trains in

908
00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:18,930
France. You can imagine people
are just thrilled to see it.

909
00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:21,090
They love it. They do not

910
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,850
stress me out because this
morning, I had to take the train

911
00:52:26,850 --> 00:52:29,580
and I wondered whether I would
find some. So I felt a bit

912
00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:32,520
hesitant. But at the same time,
I know there are some also in

913
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,970
cinemas and somewhat everywhere.
So I paid close attention when

914
00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:38,760
stepping on the train and look
to see if there are any crawlers

915
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,660
on my seat. That's

916
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:44,370
Josh Letterman, I'm just going
to tell you, I don't know if I'm

917
00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:47,700
moving through this like it is I
mean, this is an infestation so

918
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:51,150
bad that the French government
is stepping in to fight this

919
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:53,340
battle. Like what is the plan
here?

920
00:52:53,759 --> 00:52:56,129
I'm so glad that we're talking
about this on a Friday night,

921
00:52:56,129 --> 00:52:58,649
Holly, I'm never gonna be able
to fall asleep tonight. So thank

922
00:52:58,649 --> 00:53:02,549
you so much for that. But
seriously, this is a crisis for

923
00:53:03,089 --> 00:53:05,789
government because this is the
kind of thing that normally

924
00:53:05,819 --> 00:53:08,849
households deal with at the
family level. It's not the kind

925
00:53:08,849 --> 00:53:12,539
of thing that governments are
used to dealing with. And so

926
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:16,049
they really have to figure out
quickly how to get their hands

927
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:19,049
around this. And they're
focusing first off on the

928
00:53:19,049 --> 00:53:21,689
transportation system, because
that's really where you have

929
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,799
high density of people, heavily
trafficked areas where this kind

930
00:53:25,799 --> 00:53:28,109
of thing can really start to
spread very quickly.

931
00:53:28,350 --> 00:53:31,350
Adam Curry: I think this is
sabotage. Because it didn't

932
00:53:31,350 --> 00:53:34,500
start like in New York, really.
In New York. They had no hotel

933
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:37,770
bedbug problem we reported on
that years ago, this year,

934
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,680
John C Dvorak: you know, that
was that was the entire country.

935
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:45,060
There was problems in in San
Francisco. They also talked

936
00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:49,860
about bedbugs in the theater. He
was measured major stories we

937
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:53,100
have Yes, still in the archives.
I maybe dig some up for the next

938
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:56,190
show. Talking about the bed bugs
bed baths. All they talked

939
00:53:56,190 --> 00:53:56,910
about. Well, no,

940
00:53:56,910 --> 00:53:58,920
Adam Curry: it's Democrat cities
is what you're saying. That's

941
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,440
what I'm hearing here. But you
are right. The theaters. This is

942
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:07,590
sabotage and it started in the
theaters.

943
00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:10,740
Unknown: UGC cinemas had
initially ignored reports of

944
00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:14,340
bedbugs. However, it made a U
turn after customers threatened

945
00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:19,980
to boycott its cinema halls. The
chain has admitted that bedbugs

946
00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:23,700
are present in at least some of
its cinemas it published a

947
00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:27,150
statement saying that it was
sincerely sorry for all the

948
00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:31,620
victims of bedbug bites.
However, the cinema says that

949
00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:35,580
there are no grounds for
compensating victims. The

950
00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:39,300
statement further underlines
that this couch of bedbox

951
00:54:39,330 --> 00:54:43,710
concerns all public places,
along with private homes in

952
00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:46,770
France that bugs have been
discovered this year in

953
00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:51,060
theaters, hospitals and prisons
in front of prisons. They were

954
00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:54,720
also found in the merciless
underground network. A recent

955
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:58,410
report by the French government
said that bedbugs had spread to

956
00:54:58,410 --> 00:55:03,450
about 11% of Friends households,
and we're causing sleep loss,

957
00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:06,750
mental health problems and
absenteeism.

958
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,450
Adam Curry: This is this is
going to bring down their

959
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:10,260
economy.

960
00:55:11,849 --> 00:55:14,909
John C Dvorak: If they keep
promoting it, I mean bedbugs are

961
00:55:14,939 --> 00:55:19,889
frogs. bedbugs are not hard to
stop bentonite and the spread

962
00:55:19,889 --> 00:55:24,389
around households on corners and
stuff till they can dig kills

963
00:55:24,389 --> 00:55:27,929
them all because they can't walk
across it. And then if you own

964
00:55:27,929 --> 00:55:32,039
the theater, why wouldn't you
have already sprayed it for with

965
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,819
Malla thigh on a number of times
you get any kind of critter out

966
00:55:35,819 --> 00:55:38,639
of there and nobody's gonna know
I don't know it's not gonna

967
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:42,119
poison this whole thing. You're
right. This is some sort of a

968
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,599
setup is being done for a reason
by someone. Well, the Olympics

969
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,910
Adam Curry: the Olympics was the
key part in the first report.

970
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:52,860
The Olympics are just months
away. And it's in France, Paris,

971
00:55:52,860 --> 00:55:53,340
I think.

972
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,600
John C Dvorak: Paris in Paris.
Yeah, this is done this is some

973
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,460
sort of program

974
00:55:59,549 --> 00:56:02,009
Adam Curry: if can you imagine
you have the Olympics you put

975
00:56:02,009 --> 00:56:06,179
you spend hundreds of billions
of euros on setting up your

976
00:56:06,179 --> 00:56:08,789
venues and getting everybody
ready and the whole world goes?

977
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:12,569
Nope, not gonna go to bed bugs.
I'm not gonna Hey, they could

978
00:56:12,569 --> 00:56:13,709
turn them into a snack.

979
00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:18,600
John C Dvorak: Take too many of
them. I guess if he had a kind

980
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,920
of maybe a like a popsicle stick
coated and honey and then you

981
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,640
roll the bed bugs on him. So he
eat like, you know, get to eat a

982
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,660
lot at once. I wonder if if
they're edible? If it did then

983
00:56:30,690 --> 00:56:32,190
dip it in chocolate. Yeah.

984
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:33,330
Adam Curry: Nice.

985
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,960
John C Dvorak: There's something
up with this. Yeah, I agree. It

986
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,350
is like an extortion plot to
some sort. Somebody did this.

987
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:43,680
They don't

988
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,530
Adam Curry: like McCrone I mean,
and I think you know, of all the

989
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,920
problems in France. This could
get the French mad enough to

990
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,300
kick them out. All right, we're
sticky. And now we got bedbugs.

991
00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:56,670
We got irregular migrants.
Bedbugs

992
00:56:56,700 --> 00:56:59,310
John C Dvorak: lost our ass on
the Olympics, which they always

993
00:56:59,310 --> 00:57:00,360
do. Anyway, every

994
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,150
Adam Curry: country. Every
country loses loses out on

995
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:04,770
that's never good. It's never
good.

996
00:57:05,220 --> 00:57:07,500
John C Dvorak: Yes. Amazing.
They get suckered into doing it

997
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:10,770
time. And again, there's got to
be unbelievable amounts of

998
00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:14,970
bribery involved in the Olympic
program system.

999
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:18,270
Adam Curry: So here's the
question because it doesn't make

1000
00:57:18,270 --> 00:57:21,000
any sense. And you know, you
predicted something else would

1001
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,970
happen. I'm not blaming you. I'm
not calling you out, but we were

1002
00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:31,860
in Houston. Gas was 279 I'm
sorry, 379 379 for gas and here.

1003
00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:38,220
We're in in Fredericksburg.
We're paying for 6470 but

1004
00:57:38,220 --> 00:57:39,210
California

1005
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,670
Unknown: residents of California
they are already feeling the

1006
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:45,810
squeeze gas prices, causing
major pain at the pump. ABCs

1007
00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:49,260
Derek Dennis joins us now with
some efforts to change that.

1008
00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:51,750
Derrick. Good morning. We're
talking over $8

1009
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:56,310
A gallon absolutely just $8 a
gallon for regular unleaded.

1010
00:57:56,310 --> 00:57:59,310
That's the staggering price in
some areas of California. And

1011
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,610
drivers are frustrated parking
their cars are feeling forced to

1012
00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:07,020
just pay up the national average
about 382 A gallon California's

1013
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:10,740
average more than six bucks a
gallon if you're lucky, but

1014
00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:15,360
topping $8 A gallon if you're
not prices up 80 cents across

1015
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,380
California in just the last
month. And here's why gas prices

1016
00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:21,960
are tied to the global oil
market where it's all about

1017
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,560
supply and demand. oil producing
countries like Saudi Arabia have

1018
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,640
been cutting back on supply
driving up oil prices. So what's

1019
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,330
being done? Governor Gavin
Newsom approving a short term

1020
00:58:33,330 --> 00:58:37,320
fix transitioning the state to
using a cheaper winter blend of

1021
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,560
fuel while Republicans want to
suspend the state's gas tax

1022
00:58:40,770 --> 00:58:43,350
saving 58 cents on the gallon.

1023
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:45,960
Adam Curry: Now you know a lot
about this stuff. You know a lot

1024
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,930
about the winter blends, you
know a lot about the oil and gas

1025
00:58:48,930 --> 00:58:53,760
industry in general, what is
going on? Why is Why is oil so

1026
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:59,250
expensive? And is even that
expensive? Is it 90? It's

1027
00:58:59,430 --> 00:59:01,950
John C Dvorak: it's 90 but which
you know it doesn't mean it

1028
00:59:01,950 --> 00:59:06,720
should be 750 A gallon around my
area 650 which is

1029
00:59:07,290 --> 00:59:09,960
Adam Curry: too high. Yes,
really high.

1030
00:59:10,290 --> 00:59:14,250
John C Dvorak: But I think it's
a gouge being done. I think it's

1031
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:16,890
somehow being orchestrated. And
I think it all has to do with

1032
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:18,030
trying to get Biden out.

1033
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,050
Adam Curry: Well, this was a
very interesting report that I

1034
00:59:22,050 --> 00:59:25,050
heard this, what you're saying
there may be true listen to this

1035
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,930
Unknown: report from the
California Division of petroleum

1036
00:59:27,930 --> 00:59:32,790
market oversight. They found an
unusual spot market transaction

1037
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,580
that led to gas prices
skyrocketing.

1038
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:40,950
And we know that 50 cents of it
was as a direct result of one

1039
00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:42,450
spot market transaction.

1040
00:59:42,690 --> 00:59:47,130
Is it the oil companies in the
refineries? Do we miss that one

1041
00:59:47,130 --> 00:59:49,710
single transaction or whatever
you don't know. State

1042
00:59:49,710 --> 00:59:53,010
Representative Mike Levin sent a
letter to the Federal Trade

1043
00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:56,460
Commission, asking them to
investigate the transaction

1044
00:59:56,490 --> 00:59:59,520
because we're fed up with these
oil companies and market

1045
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,160
manipulation Shouldn't and price
gouging and we need for the

1046
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,250
Federal Trade Commission to work
with the state of California to

1047
01:00:05,250 --> 01:00:08,370
investigate, get to the bottom
of it and hold those to account

1048
01:00:08,670 --> 01:00:12,030
Adam Curry: if anything is going
wrong. So a spot trade so

1049
01:00:12,030 --> 01:00:16,260
someone did a trade which had
some bogus bogus price in there.

1050
01:00:16,770 --> 01:00:18,120
Yeah, that'll do it.

1051
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,880
John C Dvorak: Well, for short
term it will to enough to get

1052
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:26,220
everyone hooked. But there's
something up with this. Some of

1053
01:00:26,220 --> 01:00:28,770
the stuff going on with getting
getting rid of Biden, I've

1054
01:00:28,770 --> 01:00:34,170
noticed this in the clips on
this. I have. I do have a couple

1055
01:00:34,170 --> 01:00:37,230
I do want to play some Biden
clips. So he was in California.

1056
01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:41,490
Yeah, you have a clip you have a
special clip we've been holding

1057
01:00:41,490 --> 01:00:47,280
on to I do you do. You have the
Biden clip about him and LL

1058
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,690
Cool. llj.

1059
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:49,950
Adam Curry: Oh, I

1060
01:00:52,650 --> 01:00:54,510
John C Dvorak: we played it
after the show. You didn't play

1061
01:00:54,510 --> 01:00:54,930
it on the show.

1062
01:00:54,930 --> 01:00:59,760
Adam Curry: I also didn't. I
didn't clip it. I played it to

1063
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,220
me. I played it from the YouTube
I think,

1064
01:01:02,910 --> 01:01:05,100
John C Dvorak: Oh, well. Let's
play Biden in California.

1065
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:05,910
mumbling

1066
01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:09,360
Unknown: President Biden visits
California for a two day trip.

1067
01:01:09,630 --> 01:01:13,020
He attended several private
fundraisers in the San Francisco

1068
01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:16,290
Bay Area on Tuesday evening,
before making his way down the

1069
01:01:16,290 --> 01:01:17,850
peninsula on Wednesday.

1070
01:01:18,030 --> 01:01:22,170
We're in a situation where we
used to have a significant

1071
01:01:22,170 --> 01:01:27,780
portion of our GDP going into
research and development. And it

1072
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:30,270
got down to point 7% from 2%.

1073
01:01:30,570 --> 01:01:33,870
Biden's remarks came as he met
with the President's Council of

1074
01:01:33,870 --> 01:01:36,930
Advisors on Science and
Technology. His speakers said

1075
01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:39,450
they will report on
recommendations on medical

1076
01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:43,740
patient safety and experience as
well as possibilities and risks

1077
01:01:43,770 --> 01:01:47,190
of artificial intelligence. They
want to use it to predict

1078
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:51,240
weather extremes as climate
change. Oh, read materials and

1079
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,520
understand the origins of the
universe.

1080
01:01:53,550 --> 01:02:00,840
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. We
need AI now to to validate this

1081
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,280
stuff that has been going on.

1082
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Unknown: Biden's visit and
fundraiser events come as

1083
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,360
Congress continues to grapple
with an impending government

1084
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:14,010
shutdown on October 1. Both
houses are unable to agree on

1085
01:02:14,010 --> 01:02:17,820
budget bills. But Biden told
reporters during his California

1086
01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:19,500
visit, I don't think anything's

1087
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:24,720
inevitable in politics, and I'll
just say if we have a government

1088
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,770
shutdown, a lot of vital work in
science and health could be

1089
01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:33,600
impacted from cancer research to
food safety. Shut up.

1090
01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:37,020
John C Dvorak: I clipped a sub
clip of weary mum telling me

1091
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:38,040
what he says here.

1092
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:42,450
Unknown: I don't think
anything's inevitable. I can

1093
01:02:42,450 --> 01:02:42,660
hear it

1094
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:47,280
Adam Curry: he says I don't
think anything's inevitable. And

1095
01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:53,610
and that's true. I have the clip
of the clip during the

1096
01:02:53,610 --> 01:02:58,680
Congressional Black Caucus
Phoenix awards, talking about

1097
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:59,130
two of

1098
01:02:59,130 --> 01:03:01,110
Unknown: the great artists of
our time representing the

1099
01:03:01,110 --> 01:03:09,330
groundbreaking legacy of hip hop
in America. lol Jake Cool J by

1100
01:03:09,330 --> 01:03:13,800
the way, that boys got he got
man's got biceps bigger than my

1101
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,250
size. I think that boy boy,

1102
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:21,330
Adam Curry: boy, boy, oh boy.
All right, Joe, he's got bicep,

1103
01:03:21,330 --> 01:03:25,140
you know, he's bred that way.
They make him like that on the

1104
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:30,270
on the cotton farms. Isn't that
exactly what he sounds like?

1105
01:03:30,270 --> 01:03:30,690
Yeah,

1106
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,830
John C Dvorak: that's exactly
it.

1107
01:03:32,009 --> 01:03:35,669
Adam Curry: You know? Newsom,
I'm gonna see if I have this

1108
01:03:35,669 --> 01:03:39,659
year. Newsom who is he's you
know, he's making moves. Newsom

1109
01:03:39,659 --> 01:03:43,859
is making moves. He's trying
he's so they raise the minimum

1110
01:03:43,859 --> 01:03:51,479
wage for fast food workers in
California. Now, here's here's a

1111
01:03:51,479 --> 01:03:51,959
quick clip,

1112
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:54,540
Unknown: California is raising
the minimum wage for fast food

1113
01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:57,750
workers, they'll soon be paid
$20 an hour, the highest minimum

1114
01:03:57,750 --> 01:04:00,660
wage in the country. The
governor says the increase

1115
01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:03,480
acknowledges that many fast food
workers are their family's

1116
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:04,860
primary breadwinners.

1117
01:04:05,130 --> 01:04:08,370
There's a lot of mythology about
fast food. You know, Johnny used

1118
01:04:08,370 --> 01:04:12,390
to learn the value of hard work.
You know, he'd work a few hours

1119
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:15,180
in his first job. That's not the
case, folks, that's a

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01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:18,210
romanticized version of a world
that doesn't exist. We have the

1121
01:04:18,210 --> 01:04:21,930
opportunity to reward that
contribution reward that

1122
01:04:21,930 --> 01:04:24,960
sacrifice and stabilize an
industry.

1123
01:04:25,170 --> 01:04:27,510
About half a million workers
will be affected by the

1124
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:30,930
increase. Critics say the wage
hike will place a bigger burden

1125
01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:33,270
on both businesses and consumers

1126
01:04:33,420 --> 01:04:36,450
Adam Curry: to know I'm watching
this take place. I'm watching

1127
01:04:36,450 --> 01:04:43,080
this Newsom announced this and
this has nothing to do this was

1128
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:49,230
a reparations move. It was like
it was literally like Newsom is

1129
01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:52,800
saying I'm giving you
reparations and it was received

1130
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,460
that way.

1131
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,820
Unknown: A victory for hundreds
of 1000s of people across the

1132
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:57,780
state of California.

1133
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:01,530
Please listen Tom Mountain.

1134
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,540
For some, the new bill which
raises the minimum wage for fast

1135
01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:10,620
food workers to $20 per hour
feels like writing a historic

1136
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:11,010
wrong.

1137
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,990
This is for my grandmother, my
great grandmother, Johnny T goes

1138
01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:21,120
my grandmother Bobby pigment.
And for my children, this is for

1139
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:26,550
my ancestors. This is for all
the farm workers. All the cotton

1140
01:05:26,550 --> 01:05:27,330
pickers.

1141
01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:32,460
California Governor Gavin Newsom
said the bill is a recognition

1142
01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:35,430
of the fact that a majority of
fast food workers are

1143
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:36,270
breadwinners.

1144
01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:42,270
80% of the workforce force,
these fast food places 80% of

1145
01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:46,410
people of color, two thirds, two
thirds are women. We have the

1146
01:05:46,410 --> 01:05:50,130
opportunity to reward that
contribution reward that

1147
01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:53,580
sacrifice and stabilize an
industry in turn.

1148
01:05:53,850 --> 01:05:55,740
Adam Curry: I mean, come on

1149
01:05:56,190 --> 01:05:59,220
John C Dvorak: the standard.
Interesting that was not played

1150
01:05:59,250 --> 01:06:00,660
up here at all.

1151
01:06:00,690 --> 01:06:04,020
Adam Curry: This was France 24.
That's where it came from. All

1152
01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:06,900
the cotton pickers, my
ancestors, what were your

1153
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:07,530
ancestors

1154
01:06:07,620 --> 01:06:09,750
John C Dvorak: working at
working at McDonald's flipping

1155
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:13,200
burgers is is a reparation for
Cotton Pickin.

1156
01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:15,360
Adam Curry: That's Yes.

1157
01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:18,330
John C Dvorak: And that was off.
That was a good one.

1158
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,780
Adam Curry: But listen, listen,
because there was a quid pro

1159
01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:24,750
quo. There's more there is
there's a quid pro quo. What a

1160
01:06:24,750 --> 01:06:25,860
remarkable moment.

1161
01:06:26,730 --> 01:06:29,340
Unknown: labor and business
groups negotiated long and hard

1162
01:06:29,340 --> 01:06:32,670
over the deal. And exchange
Union's agreed to drop their

1163
01:06:32,670 --> 01:06:35,610
efforts to make fast food
corporations liable for the

1164
01:06:35,610 --> 01:06:38,430
misdeeds of their independent
franchise operators in

1165
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:39,060
California.

1166
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:42,060
Adam Curry: See, the so

1167
01:06:42,090 --> 01:06:44,850
John C Dvorak: McDonald's they
got out of what scam was going

1168
01:06:44,850 --> 01:06:47,340
on. And what was that all about?
I think McDonald's

1169
01:06:47,340 --> 01:06:49,830
Adam Curry: was underpaid. And
all the other ones, I'll just

1170
01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:54,000
use McDonald's, we're under
pressure for the misdeeds of the

1171
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,410
franchisees. So if the
franchisee was underpaying a

1172
01:06:58,410 --> 01:06:59,820
black person, we're gonna go

1173
01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:03,390
John C Dvorak: after the pockets
of the corporate Yes. And so now

1174
01:07:03,390 --> 01:07:07,080
the state said, Nope, can't do
that. Exactly. They sewed up

1175
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,750
some deep pockets is what they
did good work. Yeah.

1176
01:07:10,410 --> 01:07:10,860
Adam Curry: Yeah.

1177
01:07:16,170 --> 01:07:18,000
John C Dvorak: Well, the whole
thing is a scam.

1178
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,380
Adam Curry: You can't just brush
it off like that. Just say the

1179
01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:26,700
whole thing's a scam. Well,
that's your can. Well, okay,

1180
01:07:26,730 --> 01:07:29,850
then while we're on this, let
him by the way,

1181
01:07:30,210 --> 01:07:32,100
John C Dvorak: stop for a
second. Yes, I'm sorry, we'll

1182
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:36,270
back up. Because you kind of
glossed it over your shot

1183
01:07:36,270 --> 01:07:40,200
through it like, you know, like,
punch through a duck. Yeah, you

1184
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,340
were condemning me for the fact
that I had predicted that after

1185
01:07:44,340 --> 01:07:48,240
the dip holiday that the gas
prices would drop like a rock,

1186
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:53,490
which they normally do, and they
didn't. So I was wrong. I think

1187
01:07:53,490 --> 01:07:55,170
you've admitted that more than
once already.

1188
01:07:55,350 --> 01:07:57,240
Adam Curry: But I didn't say it
to say you're wrong. It's like

1189
01:07:57,270 --> 01:08:00,600
this is different because you
typically are correct in these

1190
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,500
matters. So something else
happened. And that's

1191
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,590
John C Dvorak: good find that
there's something else which we

1192
01:08:07,590 --> 01:08:08,520
haven't gotten to the bottom.

1193
01:08:08,550 --> 01:08:10,920
Adam Curry: Oh, no. But you're
saying it's Biden thing is to

1194
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:11,430
get this to

1195
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:15,030
John C Dvorak: get rid of Biden.
I'm seeing more and more of

1196
01:08:15,030 --> 01:08:18,450
these little idiosyncratic,
small little touches here in

1197
01:08:18,450 --> 01:08:22,950
there at all looks like I've
anti Biden stuff, I think. And

1198
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:26,400
this latest thing with the
impeachment inquiries, and some

1199
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,850
of the new stuff coming out.
It's pretty damning. And they

1200
01:08:29,850 --> 01:08:32,100
don't know what to do about
except, oh, no, there's no

1201
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:34,860
evidence. That's not working.
Now, before

1202
01:08:34,859 --> 01:08:37,109
Adam Curry: we go there. You
know, what are

1203
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,210
John C Dvorak: we gonna wait on
that?

1204
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,660
Adam Curry: You know what I'm
missing? Dianne Feinstein. So

1205
01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:49,410
she passes away. And the only
thing that I'm seeing is Oh,

1206
01:08:49,410 --> 01:08:51,660
yeah, it was Newsom gonna
replace it with it. We're gonna

1207
01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:57,420
do but, but where are the
retrospectives of her life? I

1208
01:08:57,420 --> 01:09:00,540
mean, I'm sure her politics may
not have been an agreement with

1209
01:09:00,540 --> 01:09:03,840
mine. But she was a force to be
reckoned with. She wasn't she

1210
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:10,350
Mayor of San Francisco. She was
cute when she was young. If you

1211
01:09:10,350 --> 01:09:13,170
look at the pictures, he was
cute. Yeah, she was cute, good

1212
01:09:13,170 --> 01:09:16,890
looking woman. She had an
amazing career. Shouldn't they

1213
01:09:16,890 --> 01:09:19,140
have this on the shelf?
Shouldn't they have been ready

1214
01:09:19,140 --> 01:09:22,380
to like, honor her? Have you
seen anything of this of this

1215
01:09:22,380 --> 01:09:22,860
sort?

1216
01:09:23,519 --> 01:09:25,439
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a couple of
things here and there. And

1217
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,289
they're minor, or there weren't
there weren't the big deals.

1218
01:09:28,289 --> 01:09:31,979
They made mostly tests. Mostly
what I've seen is testimonials.

1219
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:37,619
Run right. Oh, she was a great
gal. And she was like our friend

1220
01:09:37,619 --> 01:09:40,529
you know, she'd come over to
dinner once in a while when she

1221
01:09:40,529 --> 01:09:46,709
was in town with her husband.
You know, that kind of thing. I

1222
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:48,869
just find that any questions.
You know, we should just the

1223
01:09:48,869 --> 01:09:50,999
retrospective should have we
should have put one together

1224
01:09:50,999 --> 01:09:55,049
about her and the fact that she
was an apologist for the Chinese

1225
01:09:55,049 --> 01:09:58,799
government and current
government trade. She made

1226
01:09:58,799 --> 01:10:01,769
millions and millions of dollars
I'm Dan shot after China's

1227
01:10:01,799 --> 01:10:06,899
Chinese back that she had a
chauffeur who was a Chinese spy.

1228
01:10:06,930 --> 01:10:09,870
Adam Curry: This is my favorite.
These are old clips from, let me

1229
01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:13,740
say this is from 2019.

1230
01:10:15,540 --> 01:10:21,330
Unknown: This letter together in
front of Feinstein, we're asking

1231
01:10:21,330 --> 01:10:28,740
her to vote on the deal. We are
trying to ask you to vote yes.

1232
01:10:28,740 --> 01:10:29,730
On the Green New Deal.

1233
01:10:29,970 --> 01:10:32,010
Adam Curry: Remember when the
kids came into your office? And

1234
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:34,740
like, yeah, we want you to vote
yes. On the Green New Deal.

1235
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:35,850
Scientists

1236
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:40,560
Unknown: said that we have 12
years to turn this around. Well,

1237
01:10:40,590 --> 01:10:42,420
it's not gonna get turned
around.

1238
01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:44,550
We can do.

1239
01:10:46,170 --> 01:10:48,510
Around in 10 years, you're
looking at the faces of the

1240
01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:49,950
people who are going to be
living with

1241
01:10:51,930 --> 01:10:53,970
Adam Curry: the kids are
pleading please Senator

1242
01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:56,070
Feinstein, please save our
souls.

1243
01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:01,500
Unknown: I was elected by almost
a million vote plurality. And I

1244
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:06,900
know what I'm doing. So maybe
people should listen a little

1245
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:07,260
bit.

1246
01:11:07,559 --> 01:11:10,619
I hear what you're saying. But
we're the people who voted you.

1247
01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:13,379
You're supposed to listen to us.
Oh, there are a bunch of kids.

1248
01:11:14,219 --> 01:11:14,849
16.

1249
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:16,680
John C Dvorak: By the way, stop.

1250
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,530
Adam Curry: She literally says
that you stepped on it. But

1251
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,110
John C Dvorak: well, okay, we're
gonna go back. But she said,

1252
01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:24,960
Because you're gonna go back to
play this again. Were the people

1253
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,440
that voted, you know, that's
what the teacher says.

1254
01:11:29,010 --> 01:11:31,260
Unknown: You're saying, but
where's the people who voted

1255
01:11:31,260 --> 01:11:31,590
you?

1256
01:11:32,730 --> 01:11:33,900
Adam Curry: That's a 16 year
old,

1257
01:11:33,929 --> 01:11:36,179
Unknown: you're supposed to
listen to us. That's your old

1258
01:11:37,289 --> 01:11:38,639
16. If you didn't

1259
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:43,560
vote for something,

1260
01:11:44,430 --> 01:11:46,680
we're gonna be the one who's
impacted for you.

1261
01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:52,110
I have seven grandchildren. Now.
I understand it very well,

1262
01:11:52,110 --> 01:11:55,650
Senator, the cost of not taking
this action is far higher than

1263
01:11:55,650 --> 01:11:58,770
the cost of what the green New
Deal will be. And there is

1264
01:11:58,770 --> 01:12:02,400
enormous popularity for this
bill around the whole country

1265
01:12:02,430 --> 01:12:06,330
here. And we're asking you to do
this for us and for your

1266
01:12:06,330 --> 01:12:07,530
grandchildren. And the

1267
01:12:07,530 --> 01:12:10,380
Adam Curry: thing is, they did
it we got the green New Deal is

1268
01:12:10,380 --> 01:12:14,880
called the the investment, the
inflation Reduction Act. The

1269
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,030
Green New Deal, just it made
inflation worse. It made

1270
01:12:18,030 --> 01:12:20,880
inflation worse and it hasn't
done anything. And here is our

1271
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,930
favorite no agenda soundbite and
her head is gone. That's the

1272
01:12:24,930 --> 01:12:27,930
Diane we know and her head is
gone. That's the that's the one

1273
01:12:27,930 --> 01:12:30,840
we all know and love. That's the
Diane we want a retrospective

1274
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:31,110
of.

1275
01:12:33,210 --> 01:12:36,030
John C Dvorak: No, you're not
gonna get it. Okay. But yeah,

1276
01:12:36,030 --> 01:12:40,800
she was the big pro Chinese. She
was also the one that was spied

1277
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,710
upon by the CIA directly, even
though she at the time was the

1278
01:12:43,710 --> 01:12:47,010
head of the Senate Intelligence
Committee. And she got all bent

1279
01:12:47,010 --> 01:12:49,590
out of shape about it, because
she found out if you remember,

1280
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:53,400
this is during that era, where
there were there were they had

1281
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,310
the torture report that they
wouldn't release and she wanted

1282
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:59,940
it released. And and so then
they decide, just as a

1283
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:02,910
retrospect, she wanted it
released, they wouldn't release

1284
01:13:02,910 --> 01:13:05,310
the torture report. And they
said, Okay, well put the torture

1285
01:13:05,310 --> 01:13:08,790
report in one of those close
skiffs or whatever they are.

1286
01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:12,750
And, and people can go in and
look at it if they want to read

1287
01:13:12,750 --> 01:13:15,570
it if they're members of the
committee. And so then that's

1288
01:13:15,570 --> 01:13:19,080
when the Republicans turned it
over and got the Senate back in

1289
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,990
the day, got the Senate back.
And this guy, I think his name

1290
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:24,870
was burns or whatever his name
was the guy who was the head of

1291
01:13:25,170 --> 01:13:29,430
or maybe was the Republican head
of the Senate Intelligence

1292
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:32,910
Committee, and he said, I don't
want to look at it. Yeah. And he

1293
01:13:32,910 --> 01:13:36,480
refused to look at it. Because
he's a guest you know, what the

1294
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:39,570
CIA told them not to because it
was like restricted isn't that

1295
01:13:39,570 --> 01:13:43,710
whatever the case This is
pathetic. This whole situation

1296
01:13:43,710 --> 01:13:44,940
this government of ours,

1297
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:50,400
Adam Curry: well gets better.
The F 35 op, which I call them

1298
01:13:50,430 --> 01:13:57,420
up I said it resembled Top Gun
to so closely, work crews at

1299
01:13:57,420 --> 01:14:02,010
Jax. It's a weird thing, just
like the 911 call of this top

1300
01:14:02,010 --> 01:14:08,310
pilot. And, and then the next
scene is Ed Harris saying son,

1301
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,410
Maverick. Yeah, a year old this
year out. There's not going to

1302
01:14:13,410 --> 01:14:17,340
you know, you're you're not,
you're yesterday's news. We're

1303
01:14:17,340 --> 01:14:21,720
working on planes that don't
need pilots. Well, wouldn't, you

1304
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:27,060
know, not even 18 hours after we
we played that clip and

1305
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:32,190
discussed it. Here is a video
brand new brand new on the

1306
01:14:32,190 --> 01:14:35,040
YouTubes from the Air Force
Research Labs.

1307
01:14:36,930 --> 01:14:39,870
Unknown: Our senior leaders have
been clear and direct in saying

1308
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:42,120
we're dealing with new
technology and we're dealing

1309
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:46,290
with a new threat. We need to go
fast in determining competitive

1310
01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:50,520
advantage of autonomy and how to
ultimately operationalize

1311
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:51,840
autonomy for the warfighter.

1312
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:59,070
We are trying to figure out how
to integrate artificially

1313
01:14:59,070 --> 01:15:02,820
trained neural net works trained
in a simulation, how to

1314
01:15:02,820 --> 01:15:06,420
integrate those into the real
world. In this case integrated

1315
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:07,920
into controlling an airplane.

1316
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:13,470
We need to recognize that AI is
here. It's here to stay. It's a

1317
01:15:13,470 --> 01:15:16,800
powerful tool, collaborative
combat aircraft. And that type

1318
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,630
of autonomy is revolutionary and
will be the future battle space.

1319
01:15:21,630 --> 01:15:22,500
Yeah, final

1320
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:29,040
Adam Curry: space. battle space
autonomous planes in the future

1321
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:33,000
battle space. So we have boots
on the ground in the Yes.

1322
01:15:33,570 --> 01:15:37,050
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, we have
boots. You gotta note, yeah, we

1323
01:15:37,050 --> 01:15:37,140
had

1324
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:38,970
Adam Curry: the boots on the
ground, the Air Force Research

1325
01:15:38,970 --> 01:15:42,150
Laboratory, but I'm not going to
and we got a lot more than we

1326
01:15:42,150 --> 01:15:47,100
can discuss. In the Systems
Directorate, dealing

1327
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:50,970
specifically with autonomy and
air systems. Yes, the military

1328
01:15:50,970 --> 01:15:53,790
wants to sell flying planes. But
it's going to take many, many

1329
01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:57,600
years because every single one
of these this is our government.

1330
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,110
This is our military industrial
complex. They want this but oh,

1331
01:16:01,110 --> 01:16:03,450
we can't make that happen fast.
Because every single one of the

1332
01:16:03,450 --> 01:16:07,650
systems are made of different
solutions that have developed

1333
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,530
been developed by different
directorates reach different

1334
01:16:10,530 --> 01:16:14,580
contractors. And on different
stages of completion. There's no

1335
01:16:14,610 --> 01:16:19,080
agreed upon spec for interface
or communication between any of

1336
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:27,930
the systems. So it's, it's a
boondoggle. But they created a

1337
01:16:27,930 --> 01:16:31,260
cool video. Get everybody all
excited about

1338
01:16:31,770 --> 01:16:34,080
John C Dvorak: boondoggle isn't
boondoggle.

1339
01:16:34,980 --> 01:16:36,150
Adam Curry: It is a super loss

1340
01:16:36,150 --> 01:16:37,860
John C Dvorak: because you don't
have people with technical

1341
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:41,940
enough skills at the top that
can say, hey, no, you got to do

1342
01:16:41,940 --> 01:16:46,740
it this way. No, we can't have
these. No, just develop No, just

1343
01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:50,490
a classical just No, it'd be
great. But the classic trick

1344
01:16:50,490 --> 01:16:54,780
would be IBM has technique of
doing to no more than two

1345
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,610
parallel developments and then
picking one they would do just

1346
01:16:59,610 --> 01:17:01,080
says how the PC came about,

1347
01:17:01,110 --> 01:17:04,590
Adam Curry: please. Oh, is that
that's how the PC came about.

1348
01:17:04,980 --> 01:17:09,570
Yeah. You call me a Luddite the
other day on the show?

1349
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:12,420
John C Dvorak: Oh, does that
finally gotten to you remember?

1350
01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:17,040
Adam Curry: Well, I heard it,
but then I was like, Chet GPT.

1351
01:17:17,070 --> 01:17:22,560
What does it look like? What
does a Luddite and this stems

1352
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,430
from? The textile area era,

1353
01:17:26,610 --> 01:17:30,210
John C Dvorak: the Jacquard
weave the lace frames, I guess.

1354
01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:31,230
Yeah, it's

1355
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:37,440
Adam Curry: right. Where to
bring it in the the or the the

1356
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:41,760
automated looms? Is that what
you'd call them?

1357
01:17:42,210 --> 01:17:45,060
John C Dvorak: Jack card, I
believe this sort of, and

1358
01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:45,810
product

1359
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,690
Adam Curry: to kids arms were
getting chopped off and stuff.

1360
01:17:48,690 --> 01:17:53,910
Were working in there. And it
was, you know, so they say, they

1361
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:56,850
went in and they and they busted
up all of the machines.

1362
01:17:57,269 --> 01:17:59,279
John C Dvorak: They broke them
threw a wrench in the works.

1363
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,440
Adam Curry: As always that where
that comes from a wrench in the

1364
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:05,460
works, I believe. So. The
Luddites? Yeah, yeah, these

1365
01:18:05,460 --> 01:18:07,500
John C Dvorak: people are called
I don't know where the word

1366
01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:10,230
Luddite stems from some guy
named John lead or something.

1367
01:18:10,230 --> 01:18:14,100
I'm not sure. But I don't
remember. I didn't look it up.

1368
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,520
But yeah, there's there are
people that will generally push

1369
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,690
back there are people that put
appeal that push back against

1370
01:18:22,530 --> 01:18:25,770
what was going on, and I think
they were justified, you should

1371
01:18:25,770 --> 01:18:27,690
have taken it as a compliment.

1372
01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:30,930
Adam Curry: I do now now that
I've seen it, by the way while I

1373
01:18:30,930 --> 01:18:34,530
was looking around. Do you know
what the word algorithm comes

1374
01:18:34,530 --> 01:18:34,920
from?

1375
01:18:36,660 --> 01:18:38,940
John C Dvorak: No, I don't to
say that. No,

1376
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:43,800
Adam Curry: it is. It is a word
that was shaped after a Persian

1377
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,580
mathematician who first came up
with the idea of these rules

1378
01:18:47,580 --> 01:18:52,140
based mathematics. And his name
sounds like algorithms like aka

1379
01:18:52,140 --> 01:18:56,010
dragonrider or something like
that. But then when I'm messing

1380
01:18:56,010 --> 01:19:02,610
around, I look up algos. The
Greek word for algos. He's

1381
01:19:02,610 --> 01:19:09,420
literally pain and suffering. I
thought that was that is

1382
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:11,940
interesting, kind of poetic. You
know, that's kind

1383
01:19:11,940 --> 01:19:13,350
John C Dvorak: of our show in a
nutshell.

1384
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,280
Adam Curry: Pain and suffering.
Yeah.

1385
01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:22,980
John C Dvorak: Danny will talk
about pain and suffering. Yes.

1386
01:19:23,010 --> 01:19:27,390
Nice transit. I have some clips
on there. RFK Jr. Up. Oh, I

1387
01:19:27,390 --> 01:19:28,260
Adam Curry: have an email.

1388
01:19:29,730 --> 01:19:31,620
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, I
wonder if the clip should be

1389
01:19:31,650 --> 01:19:34,590
like the two clips would go and
then the email. Yeah, sure.

1390
01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:37,650
Let's do this. It's a three
parter. It's actually two parter

1391
01:19:37,650 --> 01:19:41,160
plus a kicker. The kicker is
only seven seconds. But there's

1392
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,940
two partners. But he's opened up
a headquarters and he's getting

1393
01:19:44,940 --> 01:19:48,330
taking it very seriously. And
he's, I think they've stayed. I

1394
01:19:48,330 --> 01:19:51,210
think we're at the beginning of
stage two

1395
01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:54,330
Unknown: RFK Jr. His campaign
appears to be gaining momentum

1396
01:19:54,330 --> 01:19:57,810
his team just open up a new
headquarters in New Jersey.

1397
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,540
There the presidential candidate
explained to him he'll help

1398
01:20:00,570 --> 01:20:04,440
Americans and quote, drain the
swamp. And it is Jason Perry

1399
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:05,940
attended the grand opening.

1400
01:20:06,630 --> 01:20:10,440
I believe President Trump wanted
to drain this off, but he just

1401
01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:12,630
didn't know how I know how to do
it.

1402
01:20:12,660 --> 01:20:16,290
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Democratic
presidential candidates spoke at

1403
01:20:16,290 --> 01:20:20,160
his newly opened campaign office
in Elizabeth, New Jersey. And he

1404
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,420
said this about Trump

1405
01:20:21,570 --> 01:20:25,860
and he appointed Scott Gottlieb,
Pfizer's partner business

1406
01:20:25,860 --> 01:20:29,790
partner to run the FDA and
Godley went in there and did an

1407
01:20:29,790 --> 01:20:34,140
$88 billion favor from Pfizer.
The joint

1408
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,120
board then RFK Jr, explained how
he knows how to, quote drain the

1409
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:39,540
swamp.

1410
01:20:42,450 --> 01:20:51,720
Companies I've seen all of these
agents do, FCC, USDA, EPA, NIH,

1411
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,950
CDC, FDA, and when you sue them

1412
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:03,720
corporate capture is a term
which refers to regulatory

1413
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,650
agencies being dominated or
influenced by the industries

1414
01:21:07,650 --> 01:21:10,710
they are supposed to regulate.
And he explained how the

1415
01:21:10,710 --> 01:21:13,920
relationship between the US
military and the defense

1416
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,700
industry also known as the
military industrial complex has

1417
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:19,500
affected average Americans.

1418
01:21:20,850 --> 01:21:23,760
Adam Curry: Wow, what station
called it the military

1419
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:29,940
industrial complex. What station
was that? And TD Oh, okay. No

1420
01:21:29,940 --> 01:21:33,180
wonder as I said, No, no
American station would do that.

1421
01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:38,220
John C Dvorak: No, you can't
anymore. So he's got the he's,

1422
01:21:38,250 --> 01:21:40,650
he's, I thought it was
interesting that what he's doing

1423
01:21:40,650 --> 01:21:44,940
is he's stealing Trump's thunder
for drain the swamp. Yeah.

1424
01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:48,720
Saying that. I you know, it's a
great idea. But Trump couldn't

1425
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,890
do it. I can, which is another
words he's got no, Trump's no

1426
01:21:52,890 --> 01:21:56,790
good. And then he then he has
some comment about Gottlieb how

1427
01:21:56,790 --> 01:22:02,130
Trump got suckered the way he
isn't. It's implied that he got

1428
01:22:02,130 --> 01:22:05,280
suckered into putting this guy
into this the head of the CDC or

1429
01:22:05,370 --> 01:22:11,490
whatever it was time of. Or FDA
can't remember FDA. But yeah,

1430
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,140
FDA. And then so he's, he's,
he's so interesting. He's, he's

1431
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:22,590
complimenting Trump for the
ideas. But he can't impeach.

1432
01:22:22,620 --> 01:22:27,120
He's not no good at
implementation. We're as I am,

1433
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,780
because that's what I've been
doing as a lawyer. Very

1434
01:22:30,780 --> 01:22:33,630
interesting trick, which is well
thought out, it's to

1435
01:22:33,630 --> 01:22:36,510
Adam Curry: me fits right in
with the idea Trump wins.

1436
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:38,940
Kennedy becomes Attorney
General.

1437
01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:44,010
John C Dvorak: That I can't put
it I have no evidence that

1438
01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:49,560
you're wrong at all, so I can't
argue against you. Part Two.

1439
01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:53,010
Unknown: He also highlighted the
war in Ukraine, noting that by

1440
01:22:53,010 --> 01:22:58,410
March of this year, the US had
approved $113 billion in aid to

1441
01:22:58,410 --> 01:22:58,950
Ukraine.

1442
01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:05,310
And that's the way we cut
Medicare in this country. By we

1443
01:23:05,310 --> 01:23:09,150
took the 30 million people who
15 million people from Medicare

1444
01:23:09,150 --> 01:23:13,680
and we cut 30 million people 30
million Americans food stamps

1445
01:23:13,710 --> 01:23:19,980
from $283 a month to $23 a
month, drive at yourself on $23

1446
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:20,310
a month.

1447
01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:24,090
Kennedy also pointed out in that
same month, the government

1448
01:23:24,090 --> 01:23:28,830
provided a $300 billion bailout
to banks. And then he explained

1449
01:23:28,830 --> 01:23:31,680
what he's going to do for
Americans. And given that over

1450
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,530
the past two years, housing
prices have gone up

1451
01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:37,710
significantly. And mortgage
interest rates have more than

1452
01:23:37,710 --> 01:23:40,470
doubled from about 3% to 7%.

1453
01:23:43,170 --> 01:23:46,770
We kicked off great prosperity
in this country that 50 years

1454
01:23:46,770 --> 01:23:50,220
and you know economists and
social scientists, when we

1455
01:23:50,220 --> 01:23:55,260
became the richest country on
Earth. We started with a housing

1456
01:23:55,260 --> 01:24:00,660
boom. As soon as I get into
office under launch another

1457
01:24:00,660 --> 01:24:08,250
housing boom, I'm going to issue
a new class of mortgages or for

1458
01:24:08,250 --> 01:24:14,370
3%. I'm going to finance that by
selling treasury bills and 3%.

1459
01:24:16,110 --> 01:24:18,870
Tax Free market will pay for

1460
01:24:19,469 --> 01:24:23,429
the Senate. He just laid out his
economic plan here in his newly

1461
01:24:23,429 --> 01:24:26,699
opened New Jersey campaign
headquarters, and he stayed

1462
01:24:26,699 --> 01:24:29,219
after his speech to take selfies
with everyone.

1463
01:24:30,750 --> 01:24:34,200
Adam Curry: I don't like his
plan. It doesn't sound good.

1464
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:37,830
John C Dvorak: But then
something good about it. He says

1465
01:24:37,860 --> 01:24:42,330
Adam Curry: he's going to sell
bonds at 3% which is kind of

1466
01:24:42,330 --> 01:24:43,800
below every other bond.

1467
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,920
John C Dvorak: Tax Free those
big difference is

1468
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:54,000
Adam Curry: and he's going to
create loans at a 3% rate.

1469
01:24:56,850 --> 01:24:58,920
John C Dvorak: Which it just was
a few years ago by itself.

1470
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,950
Adam Curry: Right and what I
mean, why don't we stop? We put

1471
01:25:01,950 --> 01:25:02,700
a cap on

1472
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,060
John C Dvorak: the price
controls

1473
01:25:07,259 --> 01:25:10,409
Adam Curry: on price controls.
Yes. Do you think it's a good

1474
01:25:10,409 --> 01:25:11,609
idea? I'm asking.

1475
01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:13,320
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
it's a good idea or not, I

1476
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,140
haven't looked really tried to
figure it out whether it is not

1477
01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:19,860
like the market doing its own
thing personally. Yeah. But the,

1478
01:25:20,250 --> 01:25:23,580
the OP is complete, because now
we know NTDs may talk about

1479
01:25:23,970 --> 01:25:29,430
regulatory cap capture. This is
a little sub clip here, a little

1480
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:32,310
clip at the end. Tell me NTDs
not in on the OP.

1481
01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:35,280
Unknown: If you want to watch
Kennedy's full speech, you can

1482
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:42,360
visit mtv.com. some very sad
news, New Jersey. This is in di

1483
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:42,840
D.

1484
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,510
John C Dvorak: There the front,
the front news organization for

1485
01:25:48,510 --> 01:25:52,680
the opp. That will keep an eye
on

1486
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,350
Adam Curry: that someone's got
to do it. So somehow I wound up

1487
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:02,790
on the email list for all the
Zoom calls of Kennedy. What is

1488
01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:09,030
it? It's called? People for
Kennedy. So this is his ground

1489
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:09,420
game.

1490
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,270
John C Dvorak: Wonder how you
got on that list? I didn't get

1491
01:26:12,270 --> 01:26:12,660
on it.

1492
01:26:12,929 --> 01:26:16,049
Adam Curry: And it's you know,
they're very, yeah, exactly.

1493
01:26:16,079 --> 01:26:19,379
They want to put you on it. And
here's the latest to the

1494
01:26:19,379 --> 01:26:22,529
fearless believers, passionate,
changemakers and motivated

1495
01:26:22,529 --> 01:26:25,679
citizens who make up people for
Kennedy, while we get placed our

1496
01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:28,139
outreach on a bit of a hold as
we were waiting for our

1497
01:26:28,139 --> 01:26:31,559
candidate and the campaign to
make some critical decisions. It

1498
01:26:31,559 --> 01:26:34,529
looks like planning behind the
scenes for an independent run

1499
01:26:34,529 --> 01:26:38,399
was the exact right call. Yes.
Our people for Kennedy

1500
01:26:38,909 --> 01:26:42,179
leadership team has been busy
behind the scenes preparing for

1501
01:26:42,179 --> 01:26:48,179
the independent run. And there's
a call today for pm Pacific.

1502
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:51,150
John C Dvorak: Now, do we know
that this is official? Or is

1503
01:26:51,150 --> 01:26:53,700
this off the books? Is this
Kennedy has anything to do with

1504
01:26:53,700 --> 01:26:54,450
this? Do we know?

1505
01:26:54,510 --> 01:26:57,450
Adam Curry: We don't know. But
there's a lot of people who

1506
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:03,900
apparently are on these calls.
And and you know, I I think

1507
01:27:03,900 --> 01:27:08,760
there's still a flair for the
DNC saying hey, you know, I'm

1508
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,030
pretty serious about this
independent, independent party.

1509
01:27:12,030 --> 01:27:15,180
If you don't let me in if you
don't, don't play fair with me.

1510
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:19,470
This may be a last ditch, you
know, like last last call, like

1511
01:27:19,470 --> 01:27:19,920
come on.

1512
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,180
John C Dvorak: I don't think
it's the last call. But

1513
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:29,940
definitely a shot across the
bow.

1514
01:27:30,540 --> 01:27:32,460
Adam Curry: Well, they're saying
that it's coming a week earlier

1515
01:27:32,460 --> 01:27:37,140
than they thought it would be.
People, people for Kennedy make

1516
01:27:37,890 --> 01:27:42,930
people for kennedy.com number
for him. You see people number

1517
01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:50,430
four kennedy.com. They must be
just a bunch of groupies. I'm

1518
01:27:50,430 --> 01:27:51,120
not sure

1519
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,100
John C Dvorak: it could be the
Republicans who knows.

1520
01:27:54,930 --> 01:27:59,850
Adam Curry: Speaking of. So,
while I don't I really don't

1521
01:27:59,850 --> 01:28:03,450
know what's happening while
Kennedy is doing that, saying

1522
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:08,910
I'm gonna take down I'm gonna
sue the CDC and FDA and the EPA

1523
01:28:08,940 --> 01:28:13,230
and the FBI and I'm going to
restructure the CIA. Here's

1524
01:28:13,230 --> 01:28:16,470
Trump, here's Trump and
California at the GOP convention

1525
01:28:16,500 --> 01:28:19,440
Unknown: and we will immediately
stop all of the pillaging and

1526
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:24,900
theft very simply. If you rob a
store, you can fully expect to

1527
01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:30,060
be shot as you are leaving that
shot.

1528
01:28:33,090 --> 01:28:40,290
Adam Curry: What is this? Why is
he doing this? I mean to genius.

1529
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,060
John C Dvorak: Do you think
that's he's got a lot of

1530
01:28:42,060 --> 01:28:46,680
attention from everybody and
their sister and got a big round

1531
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,700
of applause at the convention.
And it's it's it's funny.

1532
01:28:53,610 --> 01:28:55,170
Adam Curry: Unless you're the
one stealing

1533
01:28:55,980 --> 01:28:59,220
John C Dvorak: well, don't steal
you only get shot. Yeah, but

1534
01:28:59,220 --> 01:28:59,550
that's

1535
01:29:00,180 --> 01:29:03,120
Adam Curry: when they when the
people were the umbrellas during

1536
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:08,280
the George Floyd Gambit when
they broke the windows on all

1537
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,490
the stores. That's what kicked
it off. I met I talked to moe

1538
01:29:11,490 --> 01:29:15,750
about this. He says this is not
going to this is not going to

1539
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:20,340
subside. It's only going to get
worse. only going to get worse.

1540
01:29:23,940 --> 01:29:28,920
Me You see Philadelphia earlier
in the week. Yeah, I mean that

1541
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:33,480
was a mess. Yeah, the looting.
And it was for another another

1542
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:37,470
person shot. And then you know
this instantly using

1543
01:29:37,470 --> 01:29:39,900
John C Dvorak: any excuse,
instigators there's all kinds

1544
01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:41,970
Adam Curry: of stuff going on.
This was this was something from

1545
01:29:41,970 --> 01:29:44,310
Trump's speech I thought was
quite funny. It take

1546
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:46,470
Unknown: you to shower they're
told to hurry up you're only

1547
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:49,530
allowed a small amount of water
when they take issue. That's why

1548
01:29:49,530 --> 01:29:52,410
rich people from Beverly Hills
generally speaking don't smell

1549
01:29:52,410 --> 01:29:59,970
so good. Typically, never notice
inadequate. Their hygiene is not

1550
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,010
Good, but it's forced to be that
way. So when you meet somebody

1551
01:30:05,010 --> 01:30:07,530
with a beautiful house in
Beverly Hills, you know, that

1552
01:30:07,530 --> 01:30:09,300
person is sort of disgusting
under

1553
01:30:12,330 --> 01:30:14,790
Adam Curry: that I like that's,
that's

1554
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,120
John C Dvorak: developing and
that's that's a rewrite of his

1555
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,200
old material about the not
enough water comes out you can't

1556
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:23,250
wet your hair.

1557
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,010
Adam Curry: But what's
interesting is it actually falls

1558
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:31,680
into line into a weird way with
the World Economic Forum, the

1559
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:37,470
new messaging for climate
change. And there's this woman,

1560
01:30:37,470 --> 01:30:45,870
what is her name? She is let me
see I have her here. She is

1561
01:30:47,070 --> 01:30:55,650
Mariana mazzucato. And she is a
climate change. She's an agenda

1562
01:30:55,650 --> 01:31:00,570
contributor, now you go. So
she's in marketing. And she's

1563
01:31:00,570 --> 01:31:04,440
complaining about how they
sucked it at getting everybody

1564
01:31:04,440 --> 01:31:08,820
in the world vaccinated, then we
have to have different messaging

1565
01:31:08,820 --> 01:31:11,400
for climate change. Now, that's
also

1566
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,060
Unknown: of course, too, with

1567
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:15,360
COVID. Right? We are all only as
healthy as our neighbors on our

1568
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,930
street and our city, and our
region and our nation. And

1569
01:31:18,930 --> 01:31:22,530
globally. Did we solve that?
Like, did we actually manage to

1570
01:31:22,530 --> 01:31:26,910
vaccinate everyone in the world?
No. So highlighting water is a

1571
01:31:26,910 --> 01:31:30,210
global commons and what it means
to work together and see it both

1572
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:32,850
out of that kind of global
commons perspective, but also

1573
01:31:32,850 --> 01:31:35,370
the self interest perspective,
because it is, it does have that

1574
01:31:35,370 --> 01:31:37,680
parallel. It's not only
important, but it's also

1575
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,980
important because we haven't
managed to solve those problems,

1576
01:31:41,220 --> 01:31:43,980
which had similar attributes.
And water is something that

1577
01:31:43,980 --> 01:31:46,380
people understand. You know,
climate change is a bit

1578
01:31:46,380 --> 01:31:49,170
abstract. Some people understand
it really well. Some understand

1579
01:31:49,170 --> 01:31:52,770
it a bit. Some just don't
understand water. Every kid

1580
01:31:52,860 --> 01:31:54,780
knows how important it is to
have water when you're playing

1581
01:31:54,780 --> 01:31:57,900
football, and you're thirsty,
you need water. So there's also

1582
01:31:57,900 --> 01:32:00,510
something about really getting
citizen engagement around this

1583
01:32:00,510 --> 01:32:03,810
and really, in some ways,
experimenting with this notion

1584
01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:06,690
of the common good. Can we
actually deliver this time in

1585
01:32:06,690 --> 01:32:09,690
ways that we have failed
miserably? Other times, and

1586
01:32:09,690 --> 01:32:11,760
hopefully, we won't keep failing
on the other things, but anyway,

1587
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:14,550
Adam Curry: you know, this kind
of woman?

1588
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:16,980
Unknown: Oh, the worst?

1589
01:32:16,980 --> 01:32:19,920
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, we failed
miserably. Do we actually, were

1590
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,160
able to vaccinate every person
on the wall? Wow. So climate

1591
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,530
change, people don't care.
They're proud to just say we're

1592
01:32:25,530 --> 01:32:29,970
not gonna have any water. That's
what are you saying?

1593
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's a
creep.

1594
01:32:33,900 --> 01:32:35,850
Adam Curry: And they should hire
the curry Devorah Consulting

1595
01:32:35,850 --> 01:32:37,200
Group. We know how to do it.

1596
01:32:38,190 --> 01:32:40,110
John C Dvorak: We could
definitely do better than her.

1597
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:43,350
Adam Curry: So

1598
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,400
John C Dvorak: I've got I got a
kind of a tribute series of

1599
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,950
clips that might be worth
playing now tribute.

1600
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,040
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Yeah. All
right. I'd like tributes.

1601
01:32:53,549 --> 01:32:56,309
John C Dvorak: This is a tribute
to the moms for liberty.

1602
01:32:57,450 --> 01:33:00,480
Adam Curry: Really, how are they
doing? You know, when I'm mayor

1603
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:02,910
of Fredericksburg and let them
run the city. That's That's my

1604
01:33:02,910 --> 01:33:04,170
plan. That's my platform.

1605
01:33:04,679 --> 01:33:07,349
John C Dvorak: That's right,
which I we've talked about off

1606
01:33:07,529 --> 01:33:08,579
off like,

1607
01:33:08,610 --> 01:33:12,420
Adam Curry: yeah, this off my
there's calls for me to be to

1608
01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:14,490
run for mayor. There's actual
calls. Yes,

1609
01:33:14,490 --> 01:33:15,630
John C Dvorak: I'm calling for
it.

1610
01:33:18,030 --> 01:33:20,130
Adam Curry: I just do a podcast
with you every morning. You say

1611
01:33:20,130 --> 01:33:21,930
hey, how's it going in
Fredericksburg? Well, let me

1612
01:33:21,930 --> 01:33:27,030
tell you, John. Hello? Caller
Yeah, my trash didn't get picked

1613
01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:28,110
up. Oh, okay.

1614
01:33:33,390 --> 01:33:35,160
John C Dvorak: That is kind of
the drawback to the

1615
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:36,450
Adam Curry: job. Where's my bin?

1616
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:40,140
John C Dvorak: They stole my
bin.

1617
01:33:41,790 --> 01:33:43,650
Adam Curry: All right, mom's for
liberty. All right. I like my

1618
01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:45,990
food. Oh, no, what's happening?

1619
01:33:45,990 --> 01:33:48,300
John C Dvorak: So they had the
head of the moms for liberty. I

1620
01:33:48,540 --> 01:33:51,810
believe this is NTD. Is this the
naturals would then bring their

1621
01:33:51,810 --> 01:33:53,850
mom's brother because they have
chapters.

1622
01:33:53,850 --> 01:33:55,230
Adam Curry: It's all individual
chatter. This

1623
01:33:55,230 --> 01:33:58,680
John C Dvorak: is but just the
national. Okay. And I think this

1624
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,500
is worth there's three part clip
and I think it's worth listening

1625
01:34:01,500 --> 01:34:02,940
to what she has to say

1626
01:34:02,970 --> 01:34:05,640
Unknown: is there a connection
between the Justice Department's

1627
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,850
targeting of a parental advocacy
group and the Southern Poverty

1628
01:34:08,850 --> 01:34:12,990
Law Center's designating one
prominent group as extremist. We

1629
01:34:12,990 --> 01:34:16,020
speak with a co founder of moms
for Liberty about the many

1630
01:34:16,020 --> 01:34:19,620
challenges facing parents who
want a stronger voice and their

1631
01:34:19,620 --> 01:34:22,470
children's education. Tiffany
justice, thank you so much for

1632
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:23,250
joining us.

1633
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,160
Thank you for having me today.
Really appreciate it. Tiffany.

1634
01:34:27,090 --> 01:34:31,440
To begin the Heritage Foundation
is suing the FBI and DOJ on your

1635
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:34,380
behalf mom's for liberty, what
are they trying to find out

1636
01:34:34,380 --> 01:34:34,740
here?

1637
01:34:35,010 --> 01:34:38,730
Yeah, we're trying to find out
what is the SPLC talking about

1638
01:34:38,730 --> 01:34:41,670
moms for Liberty about me and
the co founder Tina desk KOVITCH

1639
01:34:41,670 --> 01:34:44,640
with the Biden administration,
and it seems like the answer is

1640
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,340
yes. Apparently they have
something to hide because they

1641
01:34:47,340 --> 01:34:50,010
haven't replied to any of the
requests for information.

1642
01:34:50,430 --> 01:34:54,330
And why do you suspect the FBI
DOJ or the Biden administration

1643
01:34:54,330 --> 01:34:56,850
is acting on the SPLC whose
behalf

1644
01:34:57,300 --> 01:35:01,080
you know, when COVID hit parents
had a lot Have questions right?

1645
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,450
Their schools were shut down and
they were speaking out, they

1646
01:35:03,450 --> 01:35:05,880
were very concerned about what
they were seeing taught to their

1647
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,750
children. And they asked a lot
of questions. And I think what

1648
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:12,420
we saw was a reaction by the
teachers union, the National

1649
01:35:12,420 --> 01:35:15,690
School Board Association to go
to the DOJ. Right, and to

1650
01:35:15,690 --> 01:35:18,510
instigate some action on the
Biden administration to protect

1651
01:35:18,510 --> 01:35:22,350
them. The truth is only three in
10 children in America are

1652
01:35:22,350 --> 01:35:24,660
reading on grade level. And I
have to be honest, I think it's

1653
01:35:24,660 --> 01:35:27,720
something that the education
industrial complex really wants

1654
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:28,350
to hide.

1655
01:35:29,850 --> 01:35:32,370
Adam Curry: Well, there was a
lot in there, who's suing who?

1656
01:35:34,230 --> 01:35:38,760
John C Dvorak: There's a well,
the moms for Liberty, liberty

1657
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:42,960
are suing for information
regarding the fact that they

1658
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,490
were put on a terrorist watch
list. And they believe it's

1659
01:35:47,490 --> 01:35:51,240
because of the Southern Poverty
Law Center who doesn't like

1660
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,710
them? Oh,

1661
01:35:54,060 --> 01:35:56,850
Adam Curry: douchebags. Of
course. Yeah. What happened? We

1662
01:35:56,850 --> 01:35:58,950
John C Dvorak: know that not
everybody knows that. Not

1663
01:35:58,950 --> 01:35:59,520
everybody knows.

1664
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,580
Adam Curry: Such a cool name of
Southern Poverty Law Center, the

1665
01:36:02,580 --> 01:36:05,520
good people. I mean, that's like
one one hour cleaner.

1666
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,270
John C Dvorak: Exactly. By the
way, like the fact that this

1667
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:13,440
woman's name is Tiffany justice.
It's a good name. You think is a

1668
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:14,340
great name. Okay.

1669
01:36:15,660 --> 01:36:17,700
Adam Curry: Hey, everybody,
Tiffany justice in the morning.

1670
01:36:18,180 --> 01:36:18,960
Here's the weather.

1671
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:24,900
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a good
morning zoo name. Good, WW II

1672
01:36:24,900 --> 01:36:27,930
name. And now? Definitely,
justice,

1673
01:36:28,500 --> 01:36:32,700
Unknown: justice. And so what
has been the fallout on your

1674
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:37,200
group, especially after the SPLC
added your group to this hate

1675
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:38,790
and extremism report?

1676
01:36:39,060 --> 01:36:42,180
Yeah, they put a target on the
backs of American moms and dads,

1677
01:36:42,210 --> 01:36:46,170
there are people citing the SPLC
designation and trying to use it

1678
01:36:46,170 --> 01:36:49,770
to hurt us to cancel us to docs
us to shut us down to threaten

1679
01:36:49,770 --> 01:36:53,610
us to justify violence in many
times being suggested. And it's

1680
01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:56,400
concerning to us. And, you know,
we know what the SPLC

1681
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,950
designation has done with other
groups in the past. And there's

1682
01:36:58,950 --> 01:37:01,920
no doubt that it was meant to
try to damage our reputation and

1683
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:05,070
our ability to be Americans and
to have our voice heard, which

1684
01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:06,480
is our constitutional right.

1685
01:37:07,530 --> 01:37:10,470
And TIF now I want to cite
something you wrote. So you said

1686
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:13,830
that exercising our free speech
rights to attend public school

1687
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:17,130
board meetings that decide how
our public schools operate is

1688
01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:21,990
not extremism, it is American.
So how does the criticism that

1689
01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:26,160
you all have received kind of
reflects society's changing view

1690
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,310
on parents goals in their
children's education?

1691
01:37:29,550 --> 01:37:32,190
The idea that parents getting
involved in their children's

1692
01:37:32,190 --> 01:37:35,640
education is somehow anti
government or extremists is just

1693
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,460
ridiculous. American parents
want to have their voice heard

1694
01:37:38,580 --> 01:37:42,090
at that very local level. And we
endorsed in over 500 School

1695
01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:46,740
Board races in 2022. And over
275 candidates were elected to

1696
01:37:46,740 --> 01:37:51,030
school board office in 76%. Of
those Tiffany, were first time

1697
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:53,580
candidates. So what you see is a
whole new group of people

1698
01:37:53,580 --> 01:37:55,710
getting involved in American
politics, and I think it's

1699
01:37:55,710 --> 01:37:58,380
making the people in power.
Very, very scared.

1700
01:37:59,340 --> 01:38:01,950
Adam Curry: This is exactly what
they're doing. Because you know,

1701
01:38:01,950 --> 01:38:04,140
it is the moms for Liberty
people who are like, yeah, he

1702
01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:05,700
should be mayor. Come on, come
on. You can do it.

1703
01:38:05,730 --> 01:38:09,030
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
their political activist. But I

1704
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:09,300
think

1705
01:38:09,300 --> 01:38:12,630
Adam Curry: this is not a good
idea. You know, you want your

1706
01:38:12,630 --> 01:38:16,470
message to not be bold, there.
Daxing. Us. That's what's going

1707
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:19,740
to happen. You need to go into
you need to carry firearms, you

1708
01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:22,380
know, you they need to get more
radical, I think.

1709
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,670
John C Dvorak: The homes for
liberty with guns.

1710
01:38:27,210 --> 01:38:31,530
Adam Curry: Oh, hello. Yeah.
It's just, it's just the

1711
01:38:31,530 --> 01:38:33,750
thought. It's used

1712
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:34,860
John C Dvorak: the third part.
Yeah.

1713
01:38:35,010 --> 01:38:38,700
Unknown: And as we head into the
2024, election season, education

1714
01:38:38,700 --> 01:38:42,960
has become a huge issue for all
sides. What do you see as the

1715
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:44,010
solution here,

1716
01:38:44,430 --> 01:38:47,580
more parents getting involved,
more community conversations

1717
01:38:47,580 --> 01:38:49,980
happening? We just had a town
hall in Montgomery County,

1718
01:38:49,980 --> 01:38:53,640
Maryland, we had Jewish parents,
Christian parents, Mormon

1719
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,180
parents, Muslim parents coming
together to talk about how we

1720
01:38:57,180 --> 01:38:59,760
move forward to protect our kids
that you know, you unifying

1721
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,070
parents around parental rights
is what's going to save this

1722
01:39:02,070 --> 01:39:04,230
country at Mom's for Liberty, we
believe that and we're going to

1723
01:39:04,230 --> 01:39:06,180
keep bringing parents together
across the country.

1724
01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:10,110
Adam Curry: That's interesting
that that now, of course, she

1725
01:39:10,110 --> 01:39:12,570
mentions all these different
religious groups, but they're

1726
01:39:12,570 --> 01:39:16,290
all parents. This is happening
worldwide. This there is a

1727
01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:23,400
trend. And this is a clip that I
got last week. This is Belgium,

1728
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:27,390
Belgium of all places. Listen to
what's going on there and see if

1729
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:31,050
you can find the common common
theme

1730
01:39:31,110 --> 01:39:33,960
Unknown: since the start of the
school year. These five letters

1731
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,020
have ignited tensions in
Belgium. of Ross the French

1732
01:39:37,020 --> 01:39:40,470
acronym meaning education and
relational emotional and sexual

1733
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:44,160
life is an educational workshop
proposed to be given in schools

1734
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,580
that's provoked the anger of
these demonstrators, Muslims,

1735
01:39:47,580 --> 01:39:50,790
fundamentalist Catholics and
conspiracy theorists have joined

1736
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:53,370
together to demand the
suppression of these workshops.

1737
01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:57,570
teach our children if you're a
boy, but believe in your head

1738
01:39:57,570 --> 01:39:59,580
that you're a girl. You can
become a girl we'll

1739
01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:02,790
live it Concerns are so strong
that several schools have been

1740
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:07,320
set on fire in Belgium over the
past few weeks ago disapproves

1741
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,920
of such vandalism. But he says
as a Muslim, he doesn't want his

1742
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,930
children to receive this
teaching before.

1743
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:17,160
One of us it's a big problem to
be forced to accept something

1744
01:40:17,190 --> 01:40:22,320
that we cannot accept. It
doesn't just concern the Arab

1745
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:27,720
and Muslim jaspera. In the last
demonstration, there were also

1746
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,010
many Europeans

1747
01:40:29,670 --> 01:40:33,480
have the tools used in schools
come from family planning

1748
01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:36,900
programs, their director has
agreed to show us the equipment

1749
01:40:36,900 --> 01:40:38,640
used equipment here, I

1750
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,010
have a booklet that allows you
to talk about the issue of

1751
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:41,760
periods.

1752
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,350
It's a way for her to counter
the misinformation about these

1753
01:40:46,350 --> 01:40:49,080
workshops, especially on the
question of gender.

1754
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,860
There's a lot of confusion. When
we talk about gender, there's

1755
01:40:52,860 --> 01:40:56,220
already the question of gender
stereotypes. It's important to

1756
01:40:56,220 --> 01:40:59,520
address when it comes to
equality. transition issues,

1757
01:40:59,850 --> 01:41:02,940
obviously, no one is going to
child transition to

1758
01:41:03,330 --> 01:41:07,230
Adam Curry: you right, not yet.
But so you hear the same thing.

1759
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:08,520
Before almost

1760
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,920
John C Dvorak: identical it
sounds like a story from around

1761
01:41:11,490 --> 01:41:15,510
Illinois or some places like a
worldwide phenomenon. That is

1762
01:41:15,540 --> 01:41:16,470
orchestrated,

1763
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:20,790
Adam Curry: yes. Oh, yeah. Oh,
it's just like it's all

1764
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:28,500
globalist stuff. I thought it
was interesting Muslims, radical

1765
01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:34,470
Catholics, and conspiracy
theorists. Just religion is that

1766
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:34,710
all

1767
01:41:34,710 --> 01:41:37,650
John C Dvorak: the shame? Throw
them all.

1768
01:41:38,970 --> 01:41:42,060
Adam Curry: But and then they're
the little you know, in little

1769
01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:45,660
Belgium, they've lightened the
schools on fire.

1770
01:41:46,770 --> 01:41:50,190
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
probably the way to do it. Not

1771
01:41:50,190 --> 01:41:53,070
we're not a fight about your gun
toting moms for liberty and

1772
01:41:53,070 --> 01:41:55,770
under light the school on fire
is probably not if I'm

1773
01:41:55,770 --> 01:41:59,040
Adam Curry: mayor, not gonna be
lightened no schools on fire.

1774
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,090
No. No, I think we have to do
this now.

1775
01:42:11,310 --> 01:42:15,480
Back, Ben, everybody, COVID is
still with us. And there's

1776
01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:22,440
trouble in paradise trouble in
paradise. We've got a problem. I

1777
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:27,180
don't know if you heard. But
these, these free shots are not

1778
01:42:27,180 --> 01:42:34,500
free. And I shall go back to a
couple of weeks ago when we had

1779
01:42:34,980 --> 01:42:39,960
Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former FDA
administrator now on the board

1780
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:46,110
of Pfizer, and what's the
alumina? alumina? Illuminati,

1781
01:42:46,350 --> 01:42:49,500
Illuminati, he's on the board of
the Illuminati. This is what he

1782
01:42:49,500 --> 01:42:50,580
said a couple of weeks ago.

1783
01:42:50,610 --> 01:42:53,820
Unknown: What's different as we
go into the fall back to school

1784
01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:56,250
is that the federal government
emergency programs have largely

1785
01:42:56,250 --> 01:42:59,640
stopped. So people have to
actually plan getting their

1786
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,300
vaccine, you can't get them for
free everywhere. How is that

1787
01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:05,970
going to impact what the season
looks like ahead?

1788
01:43:06,090 --> 01:43:08,670
Yeah, so insurers are going to
cover these vaccines in the same

1789
01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:11,070
way they cover flu vaccines for
people who have insurance for

1790
01:43:11,070 --> 01:43:13,860
people who are underinsured or
uninsured, the administration

1791
01:43:13,860 --> 01:43:16,200
has a program where people are
going to be able to get these

1792
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,800
for free at pharmacies, that
program should be up and running

1793
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,840
by the time these vaccines
become available. And they'll

1794
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,330
also be free of charge at
federally qualified community

1795
01:43:24,330 --> 01:43:27,300
health centers and also public
health departments day one. So

1796
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:29,850
they should be widely it doesn't
mean there's not going to be

1797
01:43:29,850 --> 01:43:32,550
gaps in coverage and people who
face certain hardships but

1798
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:36,120
broadly BrahMos people should be
able to get these free of charge

1799
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:39,000
without a copay based on what
I'm seeing right now from the

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01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:39,900
insurance companies

1801
01:43:39,930 --> 01:43:42,870
Adam Curry: so free it should be
free basically. So they're doing

1802
01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:45,630
a deal so at the time they were
doing a deal hey, look, we gotta

1803
01:43:45,630 --> 01:43:48,510
have these free we got to we got
to get this all jacked up. We

1804
01:43:48,510 --> 01:43:52,170
gotta we gotta get people free
free boosters free but Oh,

1805
01:43:52,170 --> 01:43:55,320
saline. Dr. Celine, this seems
like you have a problem.

1806
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:55,650
Alright, so

1807
01:43:55,650 --> 01:43:57,690
Unknown: some people are having
trouble with the updated

1808
01:43:57,690 --> 01:44:02,250
COVID-19 vaccine being approved
by their insurance, what's going

1809
01:44:02,250 --> 01:44:02,640
on there.

1810
01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:06,060
So you've had a transition from
the US government providing the

1811
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:09,060
COVID vaccine to now business as
usual, which means the private

1812
01:44:09,060 --> 01:44:11,970
sector. And so there have been a
number of glitches with

1813
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,990
insurance billing codes,
shipping a vaccines, which has

1814
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:18,990
led to a lot of problems. If you
have private insurance, whether

1815
01:44:18,990 --> 01:44:22,950
it's private Medicare, Medicaid,
you should have your free

1816
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:26,730
vaccine. no cost to you. It's
covered by insurance since

1817
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:30,030
September 11. But because of
these glitches, there have been

1818
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:33,660
some issues. You may want to
wait until early to mid October

1819
01:44:33,660 --> 01:44:36,270
just for these things to get
ironed out. If you do get your

1820
01:44:36,270 --> 01:44:40,080
vaccine now. You may need to
resubmit or appeal a denial, but

1821
01:44:40,110 --> 01:44:41,280
you should get it for free.

1822
01:44:41,850 --> 01:44:44,820
Adam Curry: The no agenda show
always gets very suspicious when

1823
01:44:44,820 --> 01:44:46,110
we hear the term glitch.

1824
01:44:46,380 --> 01:44:46,950
Unknown: Yes,

1825
01:44:46,980 --> 01:44:48,540
shut up about the glitch.

1826
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:52,290
Adam Curry: I think something
happened. I think there's

1827
01:44:52,290 --> 01:44:56,760
something with the vaccines.
They can't ship them out. They

1828
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,510
don't have enough. They want
people to wait. So Something is

1829
01:45:00,510 --> 01:45:06,810
up. glitches are bullcrap. But
the computer systems don't work

1830
01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:08,130
now is that the glitch?

1831
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:12,060
John C Dvorak: So they're
blaming the fact that they're

1832
01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:15,960
not so they're making some just
another is a phony story. You're

1833
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:20,820
as you're making the claim that
there there is no. The vaccine

1834
01:45:20,820 --> 01:45:23,310
might not be available might not
be working. It might be

1835
01:45:23,310 --> 01:45:25,500
something wrong with it. There
may be a million things wrong,

1836
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:30,990
but they're blaming insurance or
creating a smokescreen? Yes. A

1837
01:45:30,990 --> 01:45:34,560
glitch in terms of using the
word glitch. Yeah.

1838
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,030
Adam Curry: Very suspicious.
Yeah,

1839
01:45:39,330 --> 01:45:43,110
John C Dvorak: probably. Yeah,
there's no reason for this sort

1840
01:45:43,110 --> 01:45:43,500
of thing.

1841
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,780
Adam Curry: And then the
covering it up with the other

1842
01:45:45,780 --> 01:45:49,110
free stuff, which we know but
these clips are still worth

1843
01:45:49,110 --> 01:45:51,570
listening to it later into the
fall here. We might be looking

1844
01:45:51,570 --> 01:45:56,850
at another buddy Hey, yo, we got
we got football seasons coming

1845
01:45:56,850 --> 01:45:59,310
up. You know, we got, you know,
close down baseball. But yeah,

1846
01:45:59,310 --> 01:46:01,410
we're coming to the ball COVID
seasons here

1847
01:46:01,410 --> 01:46:03,270
Unknown: later into the fall
here and we might be looking at

1848
01:46:03,270 --> 01:46:06,780
another COVID surge in the not
so distant future not

1849
01:46:06,780 --> 01:46:09,930
Adam Curry: so distant future.
Why is he puking at me like

1850
01:46:09,930 --> 01:46:10,800
this, the federal government

1851
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,230
Unknown: is once again offering
free home test kits to

1852
01:46:13,230 --> 01:46:15,630
Americans. And for more on this,
we are joined by CBS News

1853
01:46:15,630 --> 01:46:18,450
Medical contributor, Dr. Celine
gounder, who is also editor at

1854
01:46:18,450 --> 01:46:21,540
large public health pff. Dr.
gounder, thank you very much for

1855
01:46:21,540 --> 01:46:24,960
being here. So free COVID test
once again. Why now.

1856
01:46:25,260 --> 01:46:28,890
So as of yesterday, COVID
test.gov is up and running

1857
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,100
again, the government wants to
make sure everybody every

1858
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:35,610
household has tests on hand head
of the holidays, because you

1859
01:46:35,610 --> 01:46:38,310
have people of different
generations who are coming

1860
01:46:38,310 --> 01:46:41,610
together close together over the
holidays. So it's a risk for

1861
01:46:41,610 --> 01:46:44,880
grandma, grandpa, we just want
to make sure that people know if

1862
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,710
they have COVID and might be
infectious to others

1863
01:46:47,220 --> 01:46:51,780
Adam Curry: to grandma. Okay, so
now Now, this is the other

1864
01:46:51,780 --> 01:46:54,930
problem, which is there's not a
lot of answers coming out of the

1865
01:46:54,930 --> 01:46:55,800
doctor. A lot of

1866
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,900
Unknown: us have those tests
stockpiled and some of them have

1867
01:46:57,900 --> 01:47:01,980
expired. Sometimes with food,
sometimes there's medication

1868
01:47:01,980 --> 01:47:05,190
even though it's expired, you
can still eat it. Effective.

1869
01:47:05,220 --> 01:47:09,150
So the FDA has extended
expiration dates on the tests.

1870
01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:11,820
There's actually information
about this on the CBS morning's

1871
01:47:11,820 --> 01:47:15,180
dot com website. You can look up
your specific brand and see if

1872
01:47:15,180 --> 01:47:17,670
yours is still valid. No,

1873
01:47:18,030 --> 01:47:20,250
John C Dvorak: yeah, Horowitz
bitched about this because he

1874
01:47:20,250 --> 01:47:23,310
wanted to get some tests. And he
went to the website and on the

1875
01:47:23,310 --> 01:47:27,030
website, it said, Hey, these
tests probably have an

1876
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:30,060
expiration date. That's that's
already shows they're expired.

1877
01:47:30,060 --> 01:47:32,190
But no, we've extended it.

1878
01:47:32,580 --> 01:47:35,670
Adam Curry: And when asked when
pressed on it, so what is what

1879
01:47:35,670 --> 01:47:37,380
is the date? You can't really
answer?

1880
01:47:37,410 --> 01:47:39,570
Unknown: I heard you say that. I
know. We can look it up. But if

1881
01:47:39,570 --> 01:47:42,450
we don't feel like looking it
up, is there a certain time if

1882
01:47:42,450 --> 01:47:46,230
it's two weeks late, if it's
that the expired tests? Were a

1883
01:47:46,230 --> 01:47:48,660
month late? Two months late? Do
you happen to know?

1884
01:47:48,690 --> 01:47:52,290
Yeah, I mean, two weeks a month
later is not an issue. But you

1885
01:47:52,290 --> 01:47:53,670
really don't want to be using
it.

1886
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,960
Adam Curry: Just make it up?
Yeah, two weeks for goat's milk.

1887
01:47:57,960 --> 01:47:58,860
You can still drink that a

1888
01:47:58,860 --> 01:48:01,470
Unknown: month late. Two months
late. Do you want to know? Yeah,

1889
01:48:01,470 --> 01:48:01,500
I

1890
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:05,280
mean, two weeks a month later is
not an issue. But you really

1891
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,730
don't want to be using it way
beyond the extended expiration

1892
01:48:08,730 --> 01:48:08,880
date

1893
01:48:08,910 --> 01:48:10,590
Adam Curry: way beyond what does
this mean

1894
01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:14,820
John C Dvorak: way be extended?
Go back. It's not gonna hurt

1895
01:48:14,820 --> 01:48:15,030
you.

1896
01:48:17,460 --> 01:48:19,320
Unknown: Got it. Thank you very
much. Appreciate it.

1897
01:48:20,190 --> 01:48:23,190
Adam Curry: I mean, a valid
question, a journalistic

1898
01:48:23,190 --> 01:48:26,340
question, which you can expect
from CBS mornings would be well,

1899
01:48:26,340 --> 01:48:29,100
if they're expired, what
happens? Do they give you faulty

1900
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:32,070
results? They give you false
positives, false negatives.

1901
01:48:32,340 --> 01:48:34,620
These are the questions the
American people deserve to have.

1902
01:48:34,620 --> 01:48:37,560
Exactly. That's the exact
question you'd ask but the the

1903
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,750
fact that they're not tells me
something what

1904
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:43,470
John C Dvorak: happens when they
expire? Do they not work at all?

1905
01:48:43,530 --> 01:48:48,360
Or do they just make everything
you know false answers or these

1906
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,780
are the typically happens, by
the way, these are chemical

1907
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:57,000
tests. It seems to me that the
reagents used and everything in

1908
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:01,290
between is lifelong stuff that
should go for years and years

1909
01:49:01,290 --> 01:49:04,860
and years. It's not a budget as
far as I know, it's not a bunch

1910
01:49:04,860 --> 01:49:09,420
of sketchy organic compounds
that are going to react to you

1911
01:49:09,420 --> 01:49:13,350
know prematurely and and become
useless or peroxides that are

1912
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:15,330
gonna blow up the test like they

1913
01:49:15,330 --> 01:49:17,880
Adam Curry: were good to begin
with. It would they wouldn't

1914
01:49:18,570 --> 01:49:21,360
well there's that these tests
are not real they don't really

1915
01:49:21,390 --> 01:49:23,250
know these are these are

1916
01:49:24,090 --> 01:49:26,040
John C Dvorak: the I think you
should repackage them as

1917
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:27,210
pregnancy tests.

1918
01:49:30,660 --> 01:49:36,120
Adam Curry: There's an idea
gender reveal tests anything

1919
01:49:36,150 --> 01:49:40,680
just There you go. It's a boy
doesn't matter. You can become a

1920
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,040
girl later if you feel like
that. Depends on what your what

1921
01:49:44,910 --> 01:49:53,760
what you choose. Update on the
Russell Brand situation although

1922
01:49:53,760 --> 01:50:00,750
it has quieted down a little
bit. But as predict Did the

1923
01:50:00,750 --> 01:50:05,430
going after rumble This is

1924
01:50:05,550 --> 01:50:06,960
John C Dvorak: dangerous rumble

1925
01:50:06,990 --> 01:50:11,010
Adam Curry: very dangerous. And
they're also and rumble also

1926
01:50:11,010 --> 01:50:15,570
owns locals which Oh it does
Yeah, which is grand grand Green

1927
01:50:15,570 --> 01:50:18,330
Road Glenn Greenwald's outfit,
you know, the one that he got

1928
01:50:18,330 --> 01:50:25,380
stuck for and moved from
substack. And here we have an

1929
01:50:25,380 --> 01:50:31,200
outfit called the news movement
who seemed they look like

1930
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,500
volunteers, but their website
looks a lot like the Global

1931
01:50:34,500 --> 01:50:38,220
Coalition for tech justice.
There's a lot of money going

1932
01:50:38,220 --> 01:50:42,540
after big tech, but really
problematic platforms like

1933
01:50:42,540 --> 01:50:48,330
rumble. And so they feign as a
news organization, and if you're

1934
01:50:48,330 --> 01:50:53,430
a news organization and Russell
Brand is on is on. Rumble, what

1935
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:57,720
do you do? You You know how
journalism works? What do you

1936
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:00,420
do? Who are you going to go
interview what are the questions

1937
01:51:00,420 --> 01:51:02,010
you want to ask? A writer? No,

1938
01:51:02,010 --> 01:51:03,780
John C Dvorak: but you develop a
hit piece? Yeah,

1939
01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:06,240
Unknown: we're in the midst of a
crisis sorry,

1940
01:51:06,599 --> 01:51:09,929
this netplay this one first
massive brands including Burger

1941
01:51:09,929 --> 01:51:12,539
King, a source London's Barbican
Centre, and HelloFresh have

1942
01:51:12,539 --> 01:51:15,209
pulled advertising from Russell
Brand's rumble channel three of

1943
01:51:15,209 --> 01:51:17,939
the companies removed their ads
from rumble altogether after the

1944
01:51:17,939 --> 01:51:20,279
news movement found they were
appearing alongside brands

1945
01:51:20,279 --> 01:51:23,099
videos Burger King has paused
advertising on brands channel

1946
01:51:23,099 --> 01:51:25,349
while broadcasters and police
look at claims of rape and

1947
01:51:25,349 --> 01:51:28,349
sexual assault against him brand
has a huge audience on rumble

1948
01:51:28,379 --> 01:51:31,439
with over 1.4 million followers.
There's been concerned about the

1949
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,809
increasing discussion of
conspiracy theories and his

1950
01:51:33,809 --> 01:51:36,329
videos. The comedian's been
accused of rape and sexual

1951
01:51:36,329 --> 01:51:39,059
assault against four women. He
denies the claims to them

1952
01:51:39,059 --> 01:51:41,939
approach other brands including
Ralph Lauren, eBay and Hilton

1953
01:51:41,939 --> 01:51:44,939
Hotels whose ads all appeared on
brand's channel but none of the

1954
01:51:44,939 --> 01:51:47,729
reply to request for comment
YouTube suspended as from his

1955
01:51:47,729 --> 01:51:50,129
channel on their site for
allegedly violating create

1956
01:51:50,159 --> 01:51:53,009
policies and the BBC has removed
some shows brand made while

1957
01:51:53,009 --> 01:51:55,859
working there. Burger King said
the company had paused all

1958
01:51:55,859 --> 01:51:58,979
advertising while investigations
into the allegations of ongoing

1959
01:51:59,009 --> 01:52:02,099
Asus declined to comment but TNM
understands the company removed

1960
01:52:02,099 --> 01:52:04,829
their ads this week. HelloFresh
said thanks for pointing this

1961
01:52:04,829 --> 01:52:07,559
out to us. We have manually
removed our ads from rump the

1962
01:52:07,559 --> 01:52:10,799
barber consent, we've now asked
our media agency to exclude this

1963
01:52:10,799 --> 01:52:13,679
site from where our ads appear.
Rabu has said it doesn't plan to

1964
01:52:13,679 --> 01:52:16,469
remove ads from branded content
altogether. But it hasn't

1965
01:52:16,469 --> 01:52:19,049
replied to requests for comment.
Google and brand himself have

1966
01:52:19,049 --> 01:52:20,249
yet to reply to us either.

1967
01:52:20,970 --> 01:52:23,010
Adam Curry: So they just went to
all the advertisers and said,

1968
01:52:23,010 --> 01:52:24,660
Hey, do you know your
advertising next to this

1969
01:52:24,660 --> 01:52:28,650
horrible conspiracy theorists,
so called rapists? What's the

1970
01:52:28,650 --> 01:52:29,100
brand? Yeah,

1971
01:52:29,550 --> 01:52:31,440
John C Dvorak: by the way, the
charge has been filed on his

1972
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:32,040
rapes?

1973
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:35,100
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
No, of course not. You know, the

1974
01:52:35,190 --> 01:52:43,140
media are not allowed to speak
about this as a gag order. And

1975
01:52:43,140 --> 01:52:46,680
you can be sued by the by the
British government, if you

1976
01:52:46,830 --> 01:52:53,010
interfere with their possible
maybe investigation because it's

1977
01:52:53,010 --> 01:52:56,220
still, you know, kind of kind of
iffy if they're going to do

1978
01:52:56,220 --> 01:53:00,000
anything. But they literally
said you cannot report on this

1979
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,090
Russell Brand issue on this
particular part about the rapes.

1980
01:53:03,090 --> 01:53:05,850
Because if you do, then you may
be seen as interfering in an

1981
01:53:05,850 --> 01:53:10,500
investigation and you can be
hauled into into court, by the

1982
01:53:10,500 --> 01:53:14,520
government. Yeah. How does that
work?

1983
01:53:14,820 --> 01:53:17,220
John C Dvorak: They do that
stuff all the time in the UK.

1984
01:53:18,660 --> 01:53:25,890
Adam Curry: That is, wow. Magna
Carta be damned. No freedom of

1985
01:53:25,890 --> 01:53:29,910
speech. It's the model is the
model of the future. Yeah, for

1986
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:35,610
sure. And so here's this global
coalition for tech justice, and

1987
01:53:35,610 --> 01:53:36,570
they're all up in arms

1988
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:40,800
Unknown: were in the midst of a
crisis, and every second counts.

1989
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:47,070
2024 is a make or break year for
democracy and freedoms globally,

1990
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:52,830
as over 2 billion people are due
to vote in 65 elections across

1991
01:53:52,830 --> 01:53:57,990
the world. But we worry our
social media companies ready for

1992
01:53:57,990 --> 01:54:03,090
the election tsunami. Will they
stop online disinformation, hate

1993
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:09,090
and abuse spilling over into
real world violence? They

1994
01:54:09,090 --> 01:54:15,930
happened in the past capitol. Do
you remember

1995
01:54:16,050 --> 01:54:18,750
Adam Curry: this guy? The
showing the shaman guy

1996
01:54:18,780 --> 01:54:21,810
Unknown: he's done the US
Capitol with a mob of history?

1997
01:54:22,590 --> 01:54:22,890
No.

1998
01:54:24,270 --> 01:54:26,310
Adam Curry: They literally say
so they show the shaman guy that

1999
01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:28,890
highlight him in the video and
then say like he he led the

2000
01:54:28,890 --> 01:54:29,760
insurrection.

2001
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,710
Unknown: Do you remember this
guy? He stormed the US Capitol

2002
01:54:34,710 --> 01:54:39,180
with he said he stormed Yeah, I
don't know Trump supporters in

2003
01:54:39,180 --> 01:54:43,080
2021 after Trump refused to
concede the feet in the

2004
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:48,270
presidential race. Two years
later, supporters of President

2005
01:54:48,270 --> 01:54:52,920
Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil also
attacked government buildings in

2006
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,790
the lead up to the attacks.
Social media was flooded with

2007
01:54:56,790 --> 01:55:00,870
this information about the
legitimacy of the votes uncalled

2008
01:55:00,870 --> 01:55:06,360
for violence. This happens in
stable democracies. And before

2009
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,780
Silicon Valley giants, that
staff meant to keep their

2010
01:55:09,780 --> 01:55:16,920
platform face to cup costs.
These are not isolated cases,

2011
01:55:17,190 --> 01:55:21,450
big tech companies have a track
record of allowing abuses and

2012
01:55:21,450 --> 01:55:26,880
undermining democracy, and 2024
will pose the biggest risk yet

2013
01:55:26,910 --> 01:55:31,110
to people and elections with
social media at its most

2014
01:55:31,110 --> 01:55:34,650
powerful investments and
platform safety should be

2015
01:55:34,650 --> 01:55:40,230
proportionate to the risk of
harm nots market size. Companies

2016
01:55:40,230 --> 01:55:43,230
must address this gross
inequality. But they invested

2017
01:55:43,470 --> 01:55:47,640
billions to protect the US
elections and neglected global

2018
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:51,690
majority countries where they
pose a serious risk to rights

2019
01:55:51,720 --> 01:56:00,780
and freedoms in 2024. The clock
is ticking. Big tech protects

2020
01:56:00,780 --> 01:56:02,820
people under elections.

2021
01:56:03,390 --> 01:56:04,320
Adam Curry: So yeah,

2022
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:05,820
John C Dvorak: what the hell was

2023
01:56:05,820 --> 01:56:08,460
Adam Curry: that? So what
they're claiming, is

2024
01:56:08,460 --> 01:56:11,550
John C Dvorak: that all names,
give me the name of this

2025
01:56:11,550 --> 01:56:12,480
operation again,

2026
01:56:12,510 --> 01:56:15,600
Adam Curry: oh, it's a sore.
Surprise, that all leads to

2027
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:22,260
sorrows, the global or the open.
Open Institute, global coalition

2028
01:56:22,260 --> 01:56:27,360
for tech justice for Operation
Ford Foundation Bill and Melinda

2029
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,360
Gates Foundation's Open Society
Institute, they

2030
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,280
John C Dvorak: should all be
ashamed of themselves for

2031
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,730
letting something like that get
produced under their auspices.

2032
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,810
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Don't you
think? Yeah, I agree. I agree.

2033
01:56:41,370 --> 01:56:45,240
And, but you know, so what
they're saying now is, oh, it's

2034
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:48,810
all the tech companies and they
fired all of their, their trust

2035
01:56:48,810 --> 01:56:54,420
and safety staff. And it's all
there. They didn't know that.

2036
01:56:54,630 --> 01:56:57,840
That's what they that's what
they're saying. Literally,

2037
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,350
they're saying, Oh, no, they,
they want to cut costs.

2038
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:03,450
John C Dvorak: And well, that's
for sure.

2039
01:57:05,070 --> 01:57:08,070
Adam Curry: And in France,
they're going they're taking a

2040
01:57:08,070 --> 01:57:11,970
page out of our playbook from
the Obama days, because we know

2041
01:57:11,970 --> 01:57:17,100
how this started. Just Just to
reiterate, all of this started

2042
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:25,020
with bullying. For at least two
years, we had reports about oh,

2043
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,410
kids get bullied, they're
getting bullied as bullying at

2044
01:57:28,410 --> 01:57:32,820
school and bullying. And I know
this because we kept saying how

2045
01:57:32,820 --> 01:57:36,060
we grew up sticks and stone and
we were not even from the same

2046
01:57:36,060 --> 01:57:38,970
generation sticks and stones
will break my bones but names

2047
01:57:38,970 --> 01:57:41,880
will never hurt me. You know,
you got to stand up to the

2048
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:49,110
bullies. But no, what do we get?
We got bullying laws. Which were

2049
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:53,670
inherently unconstitutional.

2050
01:57:54,150 --> 01:57:58,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah, anti free
speech. Yeah. But we got local

2051
01:57:58,290 --> 01:58:00,900
Adam Curry: laws. And now
they're just ratcheting it up.

2052
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:04,290
And now now we got to do this in
France.

2053
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,280
Unknown: The new measures will
include citizen training courses

2054
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,670
for bullies. serious cases could
be referred directly to

2055
01:58:11,670 --> 01:58:14,940
prosecutors, that the worst
bullies could end up in prison.

2056
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:18,120
There'll be a new bullying
hotline and November the ninth

2057
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:22,440
will become a national anti
bullying day. Government is

2058
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,320
promising school children it
means to protect them.

2059
01:58:25,980 --> 01:58:30,120
The whole class schedule Shambo
effect on your classes to your

2060
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:34,710
bedrooms, sometimes 24 hours a
day on social networks for you

2061
01:58:34,740 --> 01:58:38,700
bullying is everywhere and all
of the time. The mobilization

2062
01:58:38,730 --> 01:58:42,450
must be universal. Everyone has
a role to play with all my

2063
01:58:42,450 --> 01:58:45,390
government, we stand with you
and will fight relentlessly

2064
01:58:45,420 --> 01:58:46,380
against bullying.

2065
01:58:47,670 --> 01:58:50,160
school bullying hit the
headlines earlier this month

2066
01:58:50,370 --> 01:58:54,000
with the suicide of a 15 year
old boy known as Nicholas. He

2067
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,510
attended this school near Paris
and only moved there this term

2068
01:58:57,510 --> 01:59:00,780
after being bullied at his
previous school. The tragedy

2069
01:59:00,780 --> 01:59:04,200
shocked France. It was also
revealed that local education

2070
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,260
authorities sent a threatening
letter to Nicholas his parents

2071
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:11,250
after they complained about the
bullying. Days later, President

2072
01:59:11,250 --> 01:59:14,340
Emmanuel Macron his wife
Bridgette, a former teacher, at

2073
01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:18,030
the local town hall to talk to
local officials, and then spent

2074
01:59:18,030 --> 01:59:22,320
time with Nicholas his family.
Bullying in French schools is a

2075
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:26,520
growing problem with the recent
poll indicating 14% of children

2076
01:59:26,730 --> 01:59:29,550
have suffered some form of
harassment at school.

2077
01:59:29,850 --> 01:59:33,210
Adam Curry: Bullying harassment
I grew up with nothing I had to

2078
01:59:33,210 --> 01:59:37,890
rats the wrong hair the wrong
shoes, stupid blue jeans,

2079
01:59:38,610 --> 01:59:39,600
John C Dvorak: ad dumb.

2080
01:59:41,220 --> 01:59:44,880
Adam Curry: Ad dumb Where's Eve
I was bullied by the way. Girls

2081
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:45,720
beat me up

2082
01:59:46,860 --> 01:59:52,980
John C Dvorak: until you told me
that the ad DME moniker that you

2083
01:59:53,010 --> 01:59:57,570
received in this Dutch schools.
I never heard of that gag in my

2084
01:59:57,570 --> 01:59:58,410
entire life.

2085
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,450
Adam Curry: Ah, well, you don't
know a lot about atoms,

2086
02:00:01,110 --> 02:00:03,720
John C Dvorak: that we had atoms
in our schools, but no one that

2087
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:07,650
little bit, uh, never eluded me,
I guess or eluded us. But

2088
02:00:07,650 --> 02:00:11,760
Adam Curry: what I mean, we just
we need to, people need to stop

2089
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,500
this. How about suck it up?

2090
02:00:14,340 --> 02:00:16,500
John C Dvorak: Well, here's the
thing about that one kid who

2091
02:00:16,500 --> 02:00:19,770
killed himself. He had to be
someone must have been somewhat

2092
02:00:19,770 --> 02:00:24,060
suicidal bear in mind. He quit
the school because he was being

2093
02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:27,090
bullied there immediately goes
to another school where he's

2094
02:00:27,090 --> 02:00:30,690
immediately bullied. But is
there a bully underground

2095
02:00:30,690 --> 02:00:34,080
network or something? Where
you'd say, hey, Bill's coming

2096
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:37,170
over there. And he's gonna He's
been bullied over here. So make

2097
02:00:37,170 --> 02:00:43,080
sure you bully. Ah, so
something's up with that story.

2098
02:00:43,230 --> 02:00:46,920
Adam Curry: Well, it's the
control messaging is to control

2099
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:50,250
what Silicon Valley messaging is
doing. We need to go back to RSS

2100
02:00:50,250 --> 02:00:52,890
people. Bring, bring?

2101
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,230
John C Dvorak: The answer to
everything is the oh,

2102
02:00:55,290 --> 02:00:58,110
Adam Curry: look, podcasting is
still free and available.

2103
02:00:59,130 --> 02:01:01,410
John C Dvorak: Until No, and
there's no

2104
02:01:01,410 --> 02:01:04,380
Adam Curry: there's no until we
even have ways where you don't

2105
02:01:04,380 --> 02:01:08,670
need a hosting company. You can
just throw it on IPFS it lives

2106
02:01:08,670 --> 02:01:11,850
out there. And the
interplanetary file system. This

2107
02:01:11,850 --> 02:01:15,540
is this has all been taken into
account. There's no way they can

2108
02:01:15,540 --> 02:01:19,800
never take down podcasting. But
people need to go back to blogs.

2109
02:01:22,410 --> 02:01:26,640
You know, Google hates RSS so
much. What was the most popular

2110
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:31,380
RSS product? Google Reader? They
love Google Reader.

2111
02:01:31,530 --> 02:01:33,450
John C Dvorak: Everybody loves
Google Reader. Yeah,

2112
02:01:33,540 --> 02:01:36,000
Adam Curry: it was like, you
know, email for blogs. And you

2113
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:40,350
could Yeah, it was great. Yeah.
And then they shut it down where

2114
02:01:40,350 --> 02:01:46,140
they do. Google Plus their own
died, of course, because the

2115
02:01:46,140 --> 02:01:52,650
stupid and now they're closing
down Google podcasts. Why RSS?

2116
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:55,470
What are they? What are they
going to give you in return? Oh,

2117
02:01:55,470 --> 02:01:59,640
you can put it down in YouTube
music. Yeah. Will ingest your

2118
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,830
RSS? Uh huh.

2119
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,970
John C Dvorak: I don't know why
they have such a hard on for RSS

2120
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,640
Adam Curry: because they can't
control it. And they can they

2121
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:09,150
can

2122
02:02:09,599 --> 02:02:11,669
John C Dvorak: algo control a
lot of stuff.

2123
02:02:12,540 --> 02:02:14,820
Adam Curry: Maybe they're
scared? How about that? Maybe

2124
02:02:14,820 --> 02:02:17,550
they're scared or something that
people actually will use and

2125
02:02:17,550 --> 02:02:22,020
like, and have control over? How
about that? They need. They need

2126
02:02:22,020 --> 02:02:26,160
to keep tricking people into
staying. If you're on Instagram,

2127
02:02:26,460 --> 02:02:30,690
and the and the algo. See that
member pain and suffering. The

2128
02:02:30,690 --> 02:02:34,890
algo see that you're about to
close the app. They shoot you

2129
02:02:34,890 --> 02:02:39,570
five likes, oh, you got five
likes? Oh, cool. Check it out

2130
02:02:39,570 --> 02:02:43,470
real quick. How about if your
kids being bullied? How about

2131
02:02:43,470 --> 02:02:45,360
how about No, no phones in the
school?

2132
02:02:45,390 --> 02:02:48,510
John C Dvorak: Get off the apps.
Somebody was I don't have the

2133
02:02:48,510 --> 02:02:50,760
clip. But it was one of the old
clips where we didn't play as

2134
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,910
somebody's talking about I think
it was Kennedy or somebody else

2135
02:02:53,910 --> 02:02:56,280
saying, well, he's getting a lot
of flack for on the social

2136
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:59,370
media, but he doesn't care
because he's not on the social

2137
02:02:59,370 --> 02:03:03,300
media. Exactly. You know, if
you're not on the social media,

2138
02:03:04,470 --> 02:03:06,630
it's not gonna have any effect
on you. And people aren't even

2139
02:03:06,630 --> 02:03:09,510
gonna do it because well, you
know, you're let's bully her.

2140
02:03:09,510 --> 02:03:11,970
Well, she doesn't she won't ever
read it. So what difference does

2141
02:03:11,970 --> 02:03:13,890
it make I got other things to do
with my time.

2142
02:03:14,010 --> 02:03:16,830
Adam Curry: There was a guy
yesterday. He was from Nashville

2143
02:03:16,830 --> 02:03:21,030
and done a lot with with
Nashville music companies and

2144
02:03:21,030 --> 02:03:24,330
work for Dave Ramsey. And, you
know, all these people knew knew

2145
02:03:24,330 --> 02:03:27,840
a lot about social media and
algorithms. And he says if you

2146
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:33,600
have 100,000 followers, and you
want you want to send out a

2147
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,970
message, do you know what
percentage you will actually

2148
02:03:35,970 --> 02:03:39,060
reach? Because the algos don't
really send it to your

2149
02:03:39,060 --> 02:03:41,490
followers? Do you know what the
percentages is? Shocking?

2150
02:03:41,820 --> 02:03:45,840
John C Dvorak: Got to be less
than 10% Four point 93 It sounds

2151
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:52,410
right. And I think i i
empirically figured this out

2152
02:03:52,530 --> 02:03:59,070
myself by messaging. I'm seeing
the effects of messaging on

2153
02:03:59,070 --> 02:04:03,720
Twitter when I had 10,000
followers in the early days and

2154
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:08,610
I have 100,000 followers now
Yeah. And I would get good at

2155
02:04:08,610 --> 02:04:12,030
the same thing with Macedon I
get good responses to a

2156
02:04:12,030 --> 02:04:16,230
suggestion or a link and I get
almost nothing when I do it on

2157
02:04:16,230 --> 02:04:19,560
Twitter now with 100,000 now
there's no dare I'd seen it.

2158
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:20,760
Nobody's saying anything.

2159
02:04:20,970 --> 02:04:23,970
Adam Curry: So everybody's now
move including was specifically

2160
02:04:23,970 --> 02:04:27,810
mentioned that MailChimp is
going to be offering SMS text

2161
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:33,600
service so that you can then
send the newsletter, a guest

2162
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:37,110
with a link to people's phone.

2163
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:38,970
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
have any I didn't collect

2164
02:04:38,970 --> 02:04:43,590
numbers. I'm sorry. I don't have
numbers to send it to.

2165
02:04:44,730 --> 02:04:48,090
Adam Curry: No, no, no, I
understand. But I'm just saying

2166
02:04:48,090 --> 02:04:52,050
that that's where the because
email has been so suppressed us

2167
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:56,490
to redemptions we can bet we
could. This is what is RSS is

2168
02:04:56,490 --> 02:05:00,750
just email by subscription. But
now we have to we have to To go

2169
02:05:00,750 --> 02:05:05,880
with the with the with the
MailChimp system, but now people

2170
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,750
are using text messaging more
and more. Guess what Apple's

2171
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:12,270
gonna come in, they're gonna
have all kinds of filters and

2172
02:05:12,270 --> 02:05:15,810
algos, so your AI message will
stop anything from coming in

2173
02:05:15,810 --> 02:05:17,760
that they deem Matic.

2174
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:22,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have to
have two clips. Okay. Kind of on

2175
02:05:22,380 --> 02:05:26,010
the topic. Alright, teens phones
one who

2176
02:05:26,340 --> 02:05:30,240
Unknown: teens are distracted by
around 237 phone notifications

2177
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:33,540
per day. According to a new
report from Common Sense Media.

2178
02:05:33,690 --> 02:05:37,140
Of the 200 teens who
participated, many got over 500

2179
02:05:37,140 --> 02:05:41,010
notifications. 1/4 of these
notifications came during school

2180
02:05:41,010 --> 02:05:43,800
hours, the team's done looked at
their phones for an average of

2181
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:47,460
43 minutes, some for as long as
six hours that kids would check

2182
02:05:47,460 --> 02:05:50,880
their phones over 100 times per
day on average, some saying they

2183
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:52,170
struggled to put them down,

2184
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:58,770
she may receive 150 snaps in a
day, if not more. There's a

2185
02:05:58,830 --> 02:06:02,340
constant. That's nap attack
psychotherapist,

2186
02:06:02,340 --> 02:06:05,520
calling us our 14 year old
daughter is also barraged by

2187
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,670
phone notifications. He says
having a good relationship with

2188
02:06:08,670 --> 02:06:11,670
our teens is a key way to deal
with the issue. Or you have the

2189
02:06:11,670 --> 02:06:15,780
conversations over and over
again about you know, it's

2190
02:06:15,780 --> 02:06:16,470
dinner time,

2191
02:06:16,500 --> 02:06:22,020
let's decide. And let's have our
vo when is something really

2192
02:06:22,020 --> 02:06:23,940
important. With and something
way

2193
02:06:23,970 --> 02:06:26,850
teens can also access age and
appropriate content on their

2194
02:06:26,850 --> 02:06:30,420
phones. Almost half of the team
participants did So accessing

2195
02:06:30,420 --> 02:06:33,960
content like pornography betting
apps and violent games reading a

2196
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:37,470
small number in social media to
chat with strangers, a risky

2197
02:06:37,470 --> 02:06:40,170
phenomenon that could lead to
problematic interactions with

2198
02:06:40,170 --> 02:06:40,860
adults.

2199
02:06:41,460 --> 02:06:43,680
Adam Curry: Yeah, I actually
heard I heard a statistic

2200
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:49,590
similar that people in general
touch their phone over two and a

2201
02:06:49,590 --> 02:06:51,030
half 1000 times a day.

2202
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:56,310
John C Dvorak: Ie that's
definitely not me mine still in

2203
02:06:56,310 --> 02:06:59,490
a drawer. I haven't used my
phone since December of last

2204
02:06:59,490 --> 02:06:59,850
year.

2205
02:07:00,030 --> 02:07:02,850
Adam Curry: I know but you're
also not interested in betting

2206
02:07:02,850 --> 02:07:04,500
apps. I

2207
02:07:06,660 --> 02:07:10,200
John C Dvorak: know who needs
that aggravation. To bet on

2208
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:12,300
sports. Park talking to

2209
02:07:12,420 --> 02:07:15,900
Unknown: teens are very lonely
these days. What the lockdowns

2210
02:07:15,900 --> 02:07:18,690
kept them away from their
friends. They their only

2211
02:07:18,690 --> 02:07:23,700
communication for the most part
online so their phone becomes

2212
02:07:23,700 --> 02:07:26,910
their friend. And that is really
sad

2213
02:07:26,940 --> 02:07:29,910
psychiatrists Carole Lieberman
says parents can take the phones

2214
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:33,240
away for periods of time and set
time limits. They should also

2215
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:36,510
introduce their kids to other
activities like sports or dance

2216
02:07:36,510 --> 02:07:39,120
class that will help them
realize what they're missing out

2217
02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:39,450
on

2218
02:07:39,570 --> 02:07:43,710
is always a process right?
There's no end to when we you

2219
02:07:43,710 --> 02:07:45,840
know when she's got it really
parallel

2220
02:07:45,870 --> 02:07:49,350
psychotherapist Carl Nazar says
it's 14 year old daughter has

2221
02:07:49,350 --> 02:07:52,200
matured with her phone use, she
can distinguish between

2222
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,260
notifications that are
important. And one second Wait,

2223
02:07:55,350 --> 02:07:57,840
but there are still times when
she gets hooked and that's when

2224
02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:59,580
the conversations begin anew.

2225
02:07:59,910 --> 02:08:02,970
Adam Curry: Well, there's a very
simple solution to this is very

2226
02:08:02,970 --> 02:08:08,730
simple, and it could be cool. I
mean, parents, listen up. Get

2227
02:08:08,730 --> 02:08:13,320
out Get your kid get all your
kids friends. And give them all

2228
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:18,840
a $25 bow Fang handheld ham
radio let them all

2229
02:08:19,049 --> 02:08:22,709
John C Dvorak: get a license
Yeah, yeah, exactly. The early

2230
02:08:22,769 --> 02:08:26,909
early version of the old fart
who's on the done the ham all

2231
02:08:26,909 --> 02:08:31,559
day hams one of the one of the
frequencies all day we're

2232
02:08:31,589 --> 02:08:35,759
working with a repeater. Yeah,
that's probably better.

2233
02:08:36,210 --> 02:08:39,000
Adam Curry: Yeah, and you can do
digital mode so you can you know

2234
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:44,370
you can send texts and stuff and
it'd be cool. Yeah, you can

2235
02:08:44,370 --> 02:08:47,880
relay relay messages talk to
kids around the world

2236
02:08:49,110 --> 02:08:50,490
John C Dvorak: Yeah, around the
world.

2237
02:08:51,450 --> 02:08:53,610
Adam Curry: Yeah, around the
world. And with that I'd like to

2238
02:08:53,610 --> 02:08:55,890
thank you for your courage in
the morning to you the man and

2239
02:08:55,890 --> 02:08:59,100
foot the seas in the corporate
capture ladies and gentlemen say

2240
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:01,380
hello my friend and the other
one only Mr. John

2241
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:08,700
John C Dvorak: Good morning to
you Mr. Chips to see boots on

2242
02:09:08,700 --> 02:09:10,800
the ground feed near subs in the
water and all the names and

2243
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:11,430
nights out there

2244
02:09:11,460 --> 02:09:12,930
Adam Curry: in the morning to
the trolls and the troll.

2245
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,350
Trolls. There you go. Hello,
trolls. Let me Hands up for

2246
02:09:16,350 --> 02:09:23,820
showing away so fast. We're two
bucks into the show. We got

2247
02:09:23,910 --> 02:09:29,340
2135 2135 So we were probably
around 24 earlier,

2248
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,430
John C Dvorak: but 24 hours
average. So we're down 300

2249
02:09:32,460 --> 02:09:34,980
Adam Curry: We're down. Where's
everybody where the trolls be at

2250
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:37,560
John C Dvorak: the What are you
bored with our topics today?

2251
02:09:37,590 --> 02:09:40,530
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
Our topics have been nothing but

2252
02:09:40,530 --> 02:09:47,460
onpoint we are bringing you the
world in 20 minutes. 1010 wins.

2253
02:09:47,550 --> 02:09:49,530
John C Dvorak: What are we not
talking about that they'd want

2254
02:09:49,530 --> 02:09:55,200
to hear? What's going on?
There's a battle going on

2255
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:58,410
between the Kardash Kardashian
sisters.

2256
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,650
Unknown: Oh no Oh mad

2257
02:10:04,650 --> 02:10:05,130
John C Dvorak: it did

2258
02:10:05,970 --> 02:10:07,620
Adam Curry: Chloe's mad at the
other one

2259
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:08,490
John C Dvorak: yeah

2260
02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:11,190
Adam Curry: oh wow no I was I
was not not aware is

2261
02:10:11,190 --> 02:10:14,310
John C Dvorak: that in clinic
crap the is you get it all this

2262
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:17,220
good stuff on TMC How about this
really how about

2263
02:10:17,220 --> 02:10:20,490
Adam Curry: we tease we tease
some tick tock clips coming up?

2264
02:10:20,850 --> 02:10:23,460
John C Dvorak: I do have a
couple Yeah, well, we had our

2265
02:10:23,490 --> 02:10:25,440
beauties. Okay. So stay tuned,

2266
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:28,290
Adam Curry: everybody tick tock
club clips or tick tock clubs,

2267
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:33,450
tick tock clubs are clipping up.
These trolls are listening live

2268
02:10:33,450 --> 02:10:35,940
every Thursday and Sunday and
you can join them by going to

2269
02:10:35,940 --> 02:10:40,620
troll room.io Right there you
can sign in you can listen along

2270
02:10:40,620 --> 02:10:44,940
no agenda stream.com Lots of
live shows 24 hours a day, seven

2271
02:10:44,940 --> 02:10:49,920
days a week. All talk no agenda,
no commercials is great, then

2272
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:53,640
it's it's a real community that
hangs out. Of course, you can

2273
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:56,250
also become a part of that and
always get alerted when

2274
02:10:56,250 --> 02:10:59,430
something is new as in when
we're going live. And there's

2275
02:10:59,430 --> 02:11:03,030
plenty other shows that know how
to access the bat signal with

2276
02:11:03,030 --> 02:11:07,470
one of the podcast apps at
podcast apps.com. All based on

2277
02:11:07,500 --> 02:11:11,880
RSS. So you know that will work
and not going to get D

2278
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:15,750
platformed or anything like
that. Of course you can always

2279
02:11:15,750 --> 02:11:19,830
follow us at no agenda
social.com Which still seems to

2280
02:11:19,830 --> 02:11:23,400
be a reasonable place for
everybody to you know, it's it's

2281
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:27,450
basically social media without.
Without algos, I'd say it's

2282
02:11:27,450 --> 02:11:30,750
pretty decent. The people you
could you know, you couldn't

2283
02:11:30,750 --> 02:11:33,780
take the bow Fang idea for the
ham radio, you could also set up

2284
02:11:33,780 --> 02:11:37,350
a mastodon server for the for
the kids at school. You know,

2285
02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:39,870
keep your eye on what's going
on. Make sure that you know you

2286
02:11:39,870 --> 02:11:43,860
can as an admin, you can check
everything people can report.

2287
02:11:44,190 --> 02:11:47,430
You can you can take it in your
own hands parents. How about

2288
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:53,640
that for an idea, John? Yeah.
Thank you for your enthusiasm.

2289
02:11:56,520 --> 02:12:00,390
Follow Adam, Adam had no agenda,
Adam had no agenda social.com

2290
02:12:00,390 --> 02:12:03,990
Johnson DeVore I had no agenda
social.com we our value for

2291
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:07,560
value. And one of the reasons
for that is we didn't want to

2292
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:09,930
have any meetings with
advertisers. But also we knew we

2293
02:12:09,930 --> 02:12:14,220
would never be able to have any
kind of conversation about any

2294
02:12:14,220 --> 02:12:18,840
of these topics without being
without the news. But the news

2295
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:22,320
moving when those guys called
calling up our advertisers. Hey,

2296
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:26,250
you guys said shits there were
those guys said, Well, if you

2297
02:12:26,250 --> 02:12:29,610
want to advertise a Burger King,
you really want to advertise

2298
02:12:29,610 --> 02:12:34,350
with those guys. That's what
they do. So what they do so

2299
02:12:34,350 --> 02:12:38,400
instead, we just said, You know
what? Why don't you just send us

2300
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:41,610
any value? If you get any value
from the program, we got lots of

2301
02:12:41,610 --> 02:12:44,460
people who were very thankful
during the lockdowns, I think we

2302
02:12:44,460 --> 02:12:49,470
have, we have presented multiple
angles to different stories that

2303
02:12:49,470 --> 02:12:53,280
help people feel much better,
most frequently heard how no

2304
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:56,040
agenda is valuable to me,
because I know I'm not the only

2305
02:12:56,040 --> 02:13:01,560
crazy one. There's more like me.
We have meetups that go along

2306
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:04,860
with that we can meet more of
these the same people. And it

2307
02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:08,460
turns out they're, you know, the
kind of like normal people yet

2308
02:13:08,460 --> 02:13:12,780
with real jobs and real lives
and real families. And we'd like

2309
02:13:12,780 --> 02:13:16,800
to be a part of that. And all we
ask is that you return value one

2310
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:19,860
way or the other at some point
regularly or not. Whatever you

2311
02:13:19,860 --> 02:13:24,600
can do time talent or treasure.
Boy, we have so many people who

2312
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:29,040
contribute time. We appreciate
all the promotion of the show

2313
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:32,280
that you do. Now, we could use
some new SEO people though,

2314
02:13:32,310 --> 02:13:35,220
remember that or that one guy
came in? And he SEO does and

2315
02:13:35,220 --> 02:13:38,430
we're still the top five pages
in Google that we can never get

2316
02:13:38,430 --> 02:13:39,240
rid of us now.

2317
02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:43,410
John C Dvorak: Remember that
guy? Yeah. No. Yeah, it

2318
02:13:43,410 --> 02:13:46,710
Adam Curry: was someone who did
that. It was early early on. We

2319
02:13:46,710 --> 02:13:49,260
used to have cool domain names
Mitt Romney. Do we have mitt

2320
02:13:49,260 --> 02:13:51,780
romney.com Someone like that?

2321
02:13:51,780 --> 02:13:53,970
John C Dvorak: A lot of great no
domain names. There's there used

2322
02:13:53,970 --> 02:13:55,410
to be a page filled with them.

2323
02:13:55,530 --> 02:13:58,020
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, there. We
still have it. The page is still

2324
02:13:58,020 --> 02:14:01,680
there. Get moelis.com and we of
course we have Big Mike

2325
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:05,100
2020 four.com. Just in case you
never know. You never never

2326
02:14:05,100 --> 02:14:11,100
know. Another way people help us
out is with talent. Boy, we have

2327
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:14,400
a lot of talented people. People
do jingles. They do clips they

2328
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:18,510
do end of show mixes also have
information boots on the ground

2329
02:14:18,540 --> 02:14:24,450
and we love having brand new
art, art that is created by

2330
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:30,270
professionals who get additional
value from us. We critique them

2331
02:14:30,300 --> 02:14:35,040
honestly. We do. You know you
never get that. You know you can

2332
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,310
be you know trying to trying to
get a gig you know trying to

2333
02:14:38,340 --> 02:14:41,580
hey, here's some of my work. And
they'll just say now or they

2334
02:14:41,580 --> 02:14:44,580
won't even call you won't even
call you. Yeah, they don't even

2335
02:14:44,580 --> 02:14:46,920
bother. Don't even bother with
that will at least tell you what

2336
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:50,370
what happened and what went
right or went went wrong. So we

2337
02:14:50,370 --> 02:14:55,260
want to thank Dame Kenny Ben,
who, who came back and this one

2338
02:14:55,260 --> 02:14:59,520
just jumped off the page. This
was the attacking rocket

2339
02:15:00,210 --> 02:15:04,350
Beautiful piece. By the way, got
a note about this The attack

2340
02:15:04,350 --> 02:15:06,300
comes from where was it? Yeah.
What

2341
02:15:06,300 --> 02:15:08,160
John C Dvorak: did you find out
about the attack comes?

2342
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:12,480
Adam Curry: So attack him is at
a CMS That's an acronym for

2343
02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:15,990
these types of rockets that we
have sent to Ukraine to shoot at

2344
02:15:15,990 --> 02:15:20,730
Russia. And here's a note from a
producer. I work at Lockheed to

2345
02:15:20,730 --> 02:15:23,670
the simulation department for
five years on the attack comes

2346
02:15:23,670 --> 02:15:27,060
program. The way the media is
pronouncing the acronym acronym

2347
02:15:27,060 --> 02:15:31,230
is pretty funny. I admit I like
it, but that's never how we

2348
02:15:31,230 --> 02:15:37,200
pronounce it. It's a tack Holmes
I attack them today got a ye i

2349
02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:41,250
tak combs it's an ID tag and
it's not attack EMS. It's

2350
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:44,220
John C Dvorak: is no good. No, I
tagged him is no good. It has to

2351
02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:49,830
be Attack, attack, attack,
attack. I attack the

2352
02:15:50,610 --> 02:15:52,770
Adam Curry: media just do that.
They just did that just to make

2353
02:15:53,160 --> 02:15:53,880
it sound good.

2354
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:56,190
John C Dvorak: They jacked it
up. They did a good job.

2355
02:15:56,220 --> 02:15:58,620
Adam Curry: Very good job. So
damn, Kenny. Man. Thank you so

2356
02:15:58,620 --> 02:16:01,230
much was a good piece. And Kenny
when we looked at a couple

2357
02:16:01,230 --> 02:16:06,480
others. I remember us. You know,
we had the NA noise. I guess

2358
02:16:06,690 --> 02:16:09,570
when Phoebe got picked up,
you're hitting your noise

2359
02:16:09,570 --> 02:16:12,900
machines and people were making
art about that, which is kind of

2360
02:16:12,900 --> 02:16:15,780
weird, because that would never
show up in the actual finished

2361
02:16:15,780 --> 02:16:20,520
product. So we had a lot of the
show a lot of Taylor Swift

2362
02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:21,600
related art.

2363
02:16:22,350 --> 02:16:24,480
John C Dvorak: That's not going
to happen. She's gets enough

2364
02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:26,340
publicity with us helping.

2365
02:16:26,910 --> 02:16:30,780
Adam Curry: Yes. People keep
sending me notes that she's

2366
02:16:30,780 --> 02:16:31,770
transsexual.

2367
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:35,070
John C Dvorak: Oh, please. Yeah.

2368
02:16:35,130 --> 02:16:38,070
Adam Curry: I'm just telling
you. And then I'm crazy for not

2369
02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:42,630
seeing it. But she's a guy.
Yeah. And so as Megan Megan

2370
02:16:42,630 --> 02:16:44,970
Kelly, and a couple

2371
02:16:44,969 --> 02:16:47,669
John C Dvorak: moral Megan Kelly
has masculine features, but

2372
02:16:47,669 --> 02:16:48,839
she's no guy.

2373
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:53,010
Adam Curry: She's not a dude.
It's weird, though. It's weird.

2374
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:57,000
And so what and then my point is
like, okay, so this is some big

2375
02:16:57,000 --> 02:17:04,140
hoax that I'm falling for and,
and what? And there's never an

2376
02:17:04,140 --> 02:17:04,890
answer on that.

2377
02:17:06,150 --> 02:17:09,030
John C Dvorak: And you can't see
it. Yeah, you can. He's, she's a

2378
02:17:09,030 --> 02:17:10,590
guy and you can't see it.

2379
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:17,970
Adam Curry: I tell ya. I'm
telling you. There wasn't you

2380
02:17:17,970 --> 02:17:22,410
know, Justin Trudeau with a
Hitler mustache? No, that's

2381
02:17:22,559 --> 02:17:24,749
John C Dvorak: no, that's not
happening. I can do that. And

2382
02:17:24,749 --> 02:17:29,489
also the Babylon. Brd did a
whole gag about it. Yeah. So we

2383
02:17:29,489 --> 02:17:30,509
looked at derivative.

2384
02:17:30,660 --> 02:17:32,190
Adam Curry: Was there anything
else we liked? Was there

2385
02:17:32,220 --> 02:17:32,940
anything else?

2386
02:17:33,029 --> 02:17:34,739
John C Dvorak: There was nothing
else we liked?

2387
02:17:35,970 --> 02:17:39,660
Adam Curry: What was this?
People really taking the Swift

2388
02:17:39,660 --> 02:17:43,710
thing to a whole new level man.
Do I like the Taylor Swift?

2389
02:17:43,710 --> 02:17:49,950
Like, okay, we have a Taylor
Swift shoe. I don't understand

2390
02:17:49,980 --> 02:17:53,670
that. A lot of the what's the
football there's the Taylor

2391
02:17:53,670 --> 02:17:57,600
Swift shoe. And it says right is
this shoe with Na on it says na

2392
02:17:57,600 --> 02:18:01,290
swift balance model 333. I don't
understand it.

2393
02:18:03,299 --> 02:18:05,039
John C Dvorak: But that's the
name of it. But it's just like

2394
02:18:05,039 --> 02:18:08,399
when our cleaners the shoe is
gonna do it. Anything I know.

2395
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:13,500
Adam Curry: So. Yeah, it just
didn't seem like there was there

2396
02:18:13,500 --> 02:18:13,650
was

2397
02:18:13,650 --> 02:18:16,830
John C Dvorak: no life. There
was no nobody would know the

2398
02:18:16,830 --> 02:18:20,220
artists weren't jacked up. They
weren't happy to do anything.

2399
02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:22,800
They just Yeah, exactly. You
know why? I think the one that

2400
02:18:22,800 --> 02:18:27,960
did definitive pieces we're
sorry, a death, which I think is

2401
02:18:27,990 --> 02:18:30,060
pretty much summarizes the art.

2402
02:18:30,660 --> 02:18:32,880
Adam Curry: But damn, Kenny
Ben's aren't just jumped off the

2403
02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:35,340
page. It's like, wow, yeah,
that's what you want. I mean,

2404
02:18:35,340 --> 02:18:39,360
that that rocket was beautiful.
Thank you very much named Kenny

2405
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:42,330
Ben. And of course, we
appreciate the effort by every

2406
02:18:42,330 --> 02:18:45,540
single one of our artists. Let
me see we It looks like there

2407
02:18:45,540 --> 02:18:48,780
may be some some stuff that's I
haven't looked at all of it yet.

2408
02:18:48,780 --> 02:18:51,900
But if you want to follow along,
if you're listening to the live

2409
02:18:51,900 --> 02:18:54,870
show, you can do that in your
app. And you'll you can I'm

2410
02:18:54,870 --> 02:18:56,910
sorry, you can while you're
listening live, you can go to no

2411
02:18:56,910 --> 02:19:00,120
agenda, art generator.com. And
just refresh and you'll see this

2412
02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:03,300
stuff show up. It's pretty funny
how a topic goes by, you can see

2413
02:19:03,300 --> 02:19:06,420
within five minutes, boom,
there's a piece of art that goes

2414
02:19:06,420 --> 02:19:10,020
along with it. Or after the fact
Dred Scott puts a lot of these

2415
02:19:10,020 --> 02:19:13,320
pieces into the chapter art
which will just switch even

2416
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:15,450
while you're driving and you're
listening to the show you'll see

2417
02:19:15,450 --> 02:19:17,640
the port but just switches right
on your dashboard. It's pretty

2418
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:22,830
cool. Then we have the talent, I
mean, the treasure portion.

2419
02:19:24,540 --> 02:19:29,010
John C Dvorak: And it was it was
came up slow and low today. I

2420
02:19:29,010 --> 02:19:34,380
think total donators in the
mentioned category just over 40

2421
02:19:34,410 --> 02:19:34,950
Which is

2422
02:19:35,969 --> 02:19:38,369
Adam Curry: kind of pathetic all
the way through 50 Yeah, yeah

2423
02:19:38,369 --> 02:19:41,309
that it's low. But you know you
don't know what's happening I

2424
02:19:41,309 --> 02:19:46,559
mean, you know, I you don't know
maybe maybe the maybe we're in a

2425
02:19:47,009 --> 02:19:50,039
recession depression maybe pay
people have no money maybe maybe

2426
02:19:50,039 --> 02:19:52,739
there's no evidence. Maybe they
just don't like what we're doing

2427
02:19:52,739 --> 02:19:56,849
we need to do more Kardashian
this stuff. So I'd you need why

2428
02:19:56,849 --> 02:20:01,769
anyway, you need to bring you
need to bring it You need to

2429
02:20:01,769 --> 02:20:08,729
bring some Kardashian news next
time. Hello, okay. Okay, I will.

2430
02:20:09,779 --> 02:20:13,529
So we'll start off with and this
is nice. We do have a couple of

2431
02:20:13,529 --> 02:20:16,109
executive and Associate
Executive producers, we always

2432
02:20:16,139 --> 02:20:19,979
appreciate anything you send us
and we can't tell what's a lot

2433
02:20:19,979 --> 02:20:23,189
of what's a lot of value for
you. $5 may be incredible

2434
02:20:23,189 --> 02:20:26,939
amount. We're just as happy with
that, that William Rob is in San

2435
02:20:26,939 --> 02:20:30,089
Antonio, Texas, and I think he
got a little bit of the wrong

2436
02:20:30,089 --> 02:20:36,959
idea about our donation segment.
Now he is very happy because he

2437
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:43,049
becomes a knight today. But then
he says this note is and he sent

2438
02:20:43,109 --> 02:20:48,539
three, four 5.67. He says this
note is very important outreach

2439
02:20:48,539 --> 02:20:51,179
to the Texas producers in the
Round Rock and surrounding

2440
02:20:51,209 --> 02:20:55,049
areas. A pretty dang big
hailstorm came through last

2441
02:20:55,049 --> 02:20:59,459
night, last Sunday evening and
totally blasted just about every

2442
02:20:59,489 --> 02:21:04,139
roof in town. He says I can help
you. And he says I'm a service

2443
02:21:04,139 --> 02:21:08,549
professional with m&m roofing
siding and windows. Give us a

2444
02:21:08,549 --> 02:21:13,469
Google which I think is great.
But then he goes through the

2445
02:21:13,469 --> 02:21:16,979
whole pitch. Like ad copy.

2446
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:19,890
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and we're
not going to raise these up in

2447
02:21:19,890 --> 02:21:21,960
the ante on Linda Lou patcon
Yeah,

2448
02:21:21,960 --> 02:21:25,260
Adam Curry: but we're not going
to do that. I didn't I didn't

2449
02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:28,920
appreciate that was no it was
over downers. Yeah, phone

2450
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:29,490
numbers.

2451
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:32,550
John C Dvorak: And yeah, I think
pluggy one and you just gave it

2452
02:21:32,580 --> 02:21:35,850
Yeah. Eminem roofing siding and
windows.

2453
02:21:35,880 --> 02:21:38,730
Adam Curry: Yeah, but you know,
he says till you get and he says

2454
02:21:38,730 --> 02:21:41,670
give him a big in the morning no
discount no discount for our

2455
02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:47,610
people. Where's it where's our
where's our coupon code Come on,

2456
02:21:47,610 --> 02:21:52,020
man. Come on, man. Get it
together. Come on, man. He says

2457
02:21:52,590 --> 02:21:55,500
no dust and we're very happy for
him. This donation also makes me

2458
02:21:55,500 --> 02:21:57,810
a night I haven't missed an
episode since Adams first

2459
02:21:57,810 --> 02:22:00,960
appearance on Rogen and every
donation segment I always wonder

2460
02:22:00,960 --> 02:22:03,960
what my night name should be.
Well now I know. Please night me

2461
02:22:03,960 --> 02:22:07,080
sir. Excellency. At the
roundtable please source the

2462
02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:12,870
finest gluten free smoked kelp
dip. And whatever wine John

2463
02:22:12,870 --> 02:22:16,350
would recommend to pair with it.
Well, that's that's up to you,

2464
02:22:16,350 --> 02:22:20,010
John. What? What wine do you
recommend?

2465
02:22:20,730 --> 02:22:23,730
John C Dvorak: I think Texas
wine for this guy in particular.

2466
02:22:24,060 --> 02:22:27,720
Okay. I don't even know if
they're still in business. But

2467
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:31,080
I've always said you find a
vintage ball of pheasant ridge.

2468
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:32,880
Cabernet got some

2469
02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:37,200
Adam Curry: pheasant? Right to
down pheasant ridge. I don't

2470
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:39,660
know if they're in business. I
mean, I would have just stopped

2471
02:22:39,660 --> 02:22:42,420
me. I would just say Augusta
vane or grape creek or

2472
02:22:42,420 --> 02:22:51,480
something. But okay. Hay is
good. Jingles f the F 35. Guys

2473
02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:56,970
scream, goat scream. And then a
Howard Dean scream. Oh, and he

2474
02:22:56,970 --> 02:23:00,420
also scrolled off my page here
because his note was so long.

2475
02:23:00,630 --> 02:23:05,040
And then he wanted a little girl
Yay. So I can do all of those

2476
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:12,240
for you. Standby. Here's your
sequence this

2477
02:23:18,060 --> 02:23:21,240
Yeah, the I'll do comes down.
Like, by the way, goats or goat

2478
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:29,790
scream is being used by other
shows now. Yeah, I know by now

2479
02:23:29,790 --> 02:23:30,420
it happens.

2480
02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:32,070
John C Dvorak: You know,
somebody wanted these other

2481
02:23:32,070 --> 02:23:34,800
shows. I was looking at some
podcast because those people

2482
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:38,550
sending me links. You know,
these guys are terrible. But I

2483
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:43,080
have to say, well, there's
another podcast that uses they

2484
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:46,290
tried to do album art new album
marfrig show they do one show a

2485
02:23:46,290 --> 02:23:51,390
week. Ya know, and I have to say
there's a dyskinetic issue here.

2486
02:23:51,870 --> 02:23:55,320
Okay, one of the things we have
going is that the two of us seem

2487
02:23:55,320 --> 02:24:00,750
to have some sort of some
overriding good taste when it

2488
02:24:00,750 --> 02:24:05,790
comes to what should be
presented. As opposed to shit

2489
02:24:05,790 --> 02:24:06,810
look and stuff.

2490
02:24:07,380 --> 02:24:09,330
Adam Curry: Yes, well, okay.
We're

2491
02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:12,360
John C Dvorak: just saying
Brandon Johnson is next on the

2492
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:15,570
list. He's in Olympia Washington
came in with 333 He's got no

2493
02:24:15,570 --> 02:24:18,540
note that I could find. Okay. If
he has one he can send it in

2494
02:24:18,540 --> 02:24:21,600
later we'll read it as a make
good. Give him a double up

2495
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:22,050
karma.

2496
02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:30,060
Adam Curry: You've got karma I
got the roundtable asking for

2497
02:24:30,060 --> 02:24:34,080
the Name of the Wind pheasant
park site what pheasant ridge?

2498
02:24:34,110 --> 02:24:36,930
Oh, pheasant ridge. Okay. Yeah,
this is pheasant Park. We can't

2499
02:24:36,930 --> 02:24:39,450
find it now as pheasant ridge.
Okay, they got it now it's fine.

2500
02:24:40,140 --> 02:24:44,970
Then we have anonymous from Fort
Worth, Texas. 333. And we have a

2501
02:24:44,970 --> 02:24:50,340
note which I have here was sent
in. Let's see what this note is

2502
02:24:51,540 --> 02:24:56,790
handwritten on mimeograph No,
this is a graph paper graph

2503
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:59,070
paper. Thank you. That's what I
was looking for. Dear Adam and

2504
02:24:59,070 --> 02:25:04,650
John. Hmm emergency jobs comma
for my sister please. Anonymous

2505
02:25:04,650 --> 02:25:10,170
Fort Worth Texas cube got it of
course, jobs, jobs, jobs and

2506
02:25:10,170 --> 02:25:14,700
jobs for jobs. Pharma

2507
02:25:18,060 --> 02:25:23,580
John C Dvorak: and next on the
list we have John cell in Dodge

2508
02:25:23,580 --> 02:25:28,800
North Dakota 327. And he wrote
one of these notes in this

2509
02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:34,110
check. And he says Adam and John
If Trump manages to get his year

2510
02:25:34,110 --> 02:25:39,240
long Expo built, but is there
anything about this year long

2511
02:25:39,270 --> 02:25:40,350
Adam Curry: Expo? No,

2512
02:25:40,529 --> 02:25:42,989
John C Dvorak: he was to build
an expo like the World's Fair

2513
02:25:42,989 --> 02:25:47,009
and the last a year, which is
how long they usually lasts

2514
02:25:47,009 --> 02:25:51,719
about a year. I've not heard of
this. I'm hoping it's near a

2515
02:25:52,049 --> 02:25:58,679
quarter mile track. With a
nearly with a nearby pizza joint

2516
02:25:58,709 --> 02:26:02,219
by the way is right right. Your
writing by the way, is mediocre,

2517
02:26:02,699 --> 02:26:08,759
with a nearby pizza joint next
to an arcade across from the

2518
02:26:08,789 --> 02:26:17,639
roller skating rink. As for the
show MACRA VT vert Tete vert tat

2519
02:26:18,119 --> 02:26:20,699
Mac macro I don't know what he
said what is that?

2520
02:26:20,730 --> 02:26:22,650
Adam Curry: I can't I can't I
don't see I don't understand

2521
02:26:22,650 --> 02:26:23,340
what it says.

2522
02:26:23,820 --> 02:26:28,440
John C Dvorak: Ma CTR vert tat
hopefully you guys have a boat

2523
02:26:28,440 --> 02:26:32,910
to have a booth to showcase the
history of podcasting at the

2524
02:26:32,910 --> 02:26:36,600
Expo. Try to get a booth at

2525
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:39,900
Adam Curry: the XPS booth at the
expo coming any anything for him

2526
02:26:39,900 --> 02:26:41,310
when we get there. So

2527
02:26:41,310 --> 02:26:42,000
John C Dvorak: that's the note.

2528
02:26:42,660 --> 02:26:43,410
Adam Curry: Thank you, John.

2529
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:45,240
John C Dvorak: Emma double up
cartridges for being

2530
02:26:45,810 --> 02:26:46,500
complicated.

2531
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:54,960
Adam Curry: You've got karma
we've got sir tooth fairy from

2532
02:26:54,960 --> 02:27:01,590
Valparaiso, Valparaiso,
Valparaiso, Indiana 308 Hay show

2533
02:27:01,620 --> 02:27:06,060
and 5094 was spectacular. Could
I get a Fauci Wiese a Trump

2534
02:27:06,060 --> 02:27:10,560
SpaceForce and life is a scam.
Well thanks sir to ferry you bet

2535
02:27:11,010 --> 02:27:12,120
Unknown: SpaceForce.

2536
02:27:21,090 --> 02:27:25,350
John C Dvorak: Thing is a scam.
This whole thing is a scam is a

2537
02:27:25,350 --> 02:27:32,220
scam. But he's in on this team.
This whole thing death and

2538
02:27:32,220 --> 02:27:36,600
destruction. Life is a scam.
This thing is a scam. This whole

2539
02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:43,560
thing. Places scam, places scam
is a scam.

2540
02:27:44,730 --> 02:27:46,830
Adam Curry: Our motto right
there.

2541
02:27:47,789 --> 02:27:51,029
John C Dvorak: Dame Beth, maybe
her motto too. She's in Tucson

2542
02:27:51,029 --> 02:27:57,419
Arizona $271. And she writes in
Heil boys file. The humble

2543
02:27:57,419 --> 02:28:01,619
slaves gathered on September 21
for the two hot Tucson meetup

2544
02:28:01,769 --> 02:28:05,459
and libations and laughter
ensued we celebrated the 25th

2545
02:28:05,459 --> 02:28:10,949
trip around the sun by Vince
game and our donation is to help

2546
02:28:11,279 --> 02:28:15,839
make this Damon Knight ha.
Please give him a biscuit for

2547
02:28:15,839 --> 02:28:16,499
his birthday.

2548
02:28:16,529 --> 02:28:19,079
Unknown: They always gave me a
biscuit on my birthday

2549
02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:23,280
Adam Curry: Don Dame Beth Thank
you very much. Nj Masoni,

2550
02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:27,150
Knoxville Tennessee happy
marriage to Paul and Lauren 12

2551
02:28:27,150 --> 02:28:32,220
years together married September
30 2023. And they never had a

2552
02:28:32,220 --> 02:28:36,480
fight. My bro Paul Mazon he hit
me in the mouth six months ago

2553
02:28:36,480 --> 02:28:40,170
after producing a product me a
couple of years longtime douche

2554
02:28:40,170 --> 02:28:42,300
but not anymore. Please de
douche.

2555
02:28:44,190 --> 02:28:45,690
Unknown: Ben de deuced

2556
02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:48,990
Adam Curry: thanks and J MYZONE.
Oh, thank you,

2557
02:28:49,530 --> 02:28:53,160
John C Dvorak: sir Mike, the
fortunate in Fuqua wave arena,

2558
02:28:53,700 --> 02:28:57,780
North Carolina. This is a meet
up call out next Saturday

2559
02:28:57,780 --> 02:29:02,280
October 27. We will be having a
meet up at Stony acres farm in

2560
02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:05,100
Cary, North Carolina. between
three and five stony acres is a

2561
02:29:05,100 --> 02:29:08,700
neat little hobby farm about
five minutes from downtown Cary

2562
02:29:08,730 --> 02:29:10,380
says you won't have to read this
number

2563
02:29:10,380 --> 02:29:12,030
Adam Curry: seven not 27th

2564
02:29:13,530 --> 02:29:17,730
John C Dvorak: October 7. Prior
to the no agenda meet there will

2565
02:29:17,730 --> 02:29:22,200
be a meet me a tee up with a
local rancher that's harbi that

2566
02:29:22,200 --> 02:29:25,200
is hobby farm that's good if
anyone wants to purchase locally

2567
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:28,290
raised beef and have it
delivered to the no agenda Meet

2568
02:29:28,290 --> 02:29:32,880
Up Now is the time good was a
link in the no agenda meetups

2569
02:29:33,180 --> 02:29:37,770
page on details about the event.
Please RSVP since the parking is

2570
02:29:37,770 --> 02:29:43,170
going to be a bit tricky. There
are the RSVP is going to change

2571
02:29:43,170 --> 02:29:46,710
anything about parking. There
are chickens, dogs, cats, and

2572
02:29:46,710 --> 02:29:50,790
lots of goats on the farm. Come
out next Saturday for beer some

2573
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:54,330
college football and lots of
goat karma are the host jays,

2574
02:29:54,360 --> 02:29:58,320
Jase and Emily got started
listening to your show and I

2575
02:29:58,320 --> 02:30:03,150
invited them to a meet up When I
invited Jace to a meet up, no,

2576
02:30:03,150 --> 02:30:05,460
agenda meetups are a great way
to introduce someone to the

2577
02:30:05,460 --> 02:30:09,210
show, please credit this
donation to Jace. Okay was the

2578
02:30:09,210 --> 02:30:13,290
switcher route and you have to
make a note. A douchebag no more

2579
02:30:13,290 --> 02:30:14,070
sir Mike.

2580
02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:17,550
Adam Curry: All right. Beautiful
sir Mike. All right. Yes. I love

2581
02:30:17,550 --> 02:30:20,040
that they're doing the the
meetups that started in Austin.

2582
02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:23,730
I think Scott Barron and the
army armory started

2583
02:30:23,730 --> 02:30:24,660
John C Dvorak: like the idea of

2584
02:30:24,660 --> 02:30:27,540
Adam Curry: a pun. Yeah, but
also working with a local

2585
02:30:27,540 --> 02:30:31,620
rancher very important that you
see that I think Texas limb

2586
02:30:31,620 --> 02:30:39,120
tweeted that out that the USDA
was trying to come up with some

2587
02:30:39,150 --> 02:30:42,900
herd sharing rule where you
can't share your herd with other

2588
02:30:42,900 --> 02:30:46,080
people unless you go through a
supermarket or some crap like oh

2589
02:30:46,080 --> 02:30:53,550
pulley Oh yeah. And I guess mass
someone put in an amendment so

2590
02:30:53,790 --> 02:30:57,150
so that didn't happen in
whatever bill I'm very sketchy I

2591
02:30:57,150 --> 02:31:01,140
know. But it's gonna this is
gonna happen it'll be a climate

2592
02:31:01,140 --> 02:31:03,810
change thing Don't worry thing
as Oh, you can't be sharing that

2593
02:31:03,810 --> 02:31:05,340
no. Oh, gotta get rid of it.

2594
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:10,920
John C Dvorak: Could you please
delete pack is up? Yes, Lakewood

2595
02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:14,100
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that gets results go to Image

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02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:18,000
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executive resume and job search

2597
02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:22,650
needs as all. That's that's the
extent of a plug. Well with

2598
02:31:22,650 --> 02:31:26,700
image magazine with a k.com or
just finally Angelou patcon

2599
02:31:26,700 --> 02:31:30,330
under the show's producer list
happy sweet 16

2600
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:33,000
Adam Curry: How far away are we
what is the date of our sweet

2601
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:35,580
16? Do we have a date? It must
be a date.

2602
02:31:36,030 --> 02:31:39,210
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
October 26 or something like

2603
02:31:39,210 --> 02:31:43,920
that. We'll do seven we'll have
the date by by show 60 1600

2604
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:45,690
happens before the show I think

2605
02:31:45,750 --> 02:31:50,910
Adam Curry: okay, yeah five more
shows jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs

2606
02:31:55,530 --> 02:31:57,600
thank you all very much
executive and Associate

2607
02:31:57,600 --> 02:32:02,910
Executive producers for episode
1595. As you know and even if

2608
02:32:02,910 --> 02:32:06,180
you didn't here's here's news
for you. This is an actual

2609
02:32:06,180 --> 02:32:08,940
credit that you can use anywhere
credits are recognized and

2610
02:32:08,940 --> 02:32:13,140
accepted you can use it on your
LinkedIn page in your any

2611
02:32:13,140 --> 02:32:16,950
profile really any social media
profile you can put on IMDb

2612
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:21,030
where the entertainment industry
was all of their credits and of

2613
02:32:21,030 --> 02:32:24,780
course, your resume looks really
handsome and if anyone ever asks

2614
02:32:24,780 --> 02:32:27,780
or questions this credit as an
executive or Associate Executive

2615
02:32:27,780 --> 02:32:31,230
producer credit just let us know
we will vouch for you and thank

2616
02:32:31,230 --> 02:32:33,930
you for supporting the no agenda
show. John is going to take us

2617
02:32:33,930 --> 02:32:36,450
through to 50 We got some meet
up reports and some nice things

2618
02:32:36,450 --> 02:32:37,050
here we go.

2619
02:32:37,680 --> 02:32:41,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, starting
with Rita Harrington sparks 160

2620
02:32:41,460 --> 02:32:49,260
Dame Taylor and data man and
Castroville Texas 10606 some

2621
02:32:49,260 --> 02:32:54,990
karma for you at the end. Pod
house studios like it byname in

2622
02:32:54,990 --> 02:33:00,870
DOS palos, California 101 79
Birthday call out coming. Anna

2623
02:33:00,870 --> 02:33:03,780
Johnson has also got a birthday
call out coming from Blaine

2624
02:33:03,780 --> 02:33:05,490
Washington $100

2625
02:33:05,550 --> 02:33:11,730
Adam Curry: and needs needs a D
douching. Here we go. You do

2626
02:33:11,730 --> 02:33:16,020
stop smoking hot husband Mark.
He needs the D douching. of

2627
02:33:16,020 --> 02:33:17,580
Morgan Hill California done.

2628
02:33:19,980 --> 02:33:24,840
John C Dvorak: Alex Zavala in
Kyle Texas. I guess he's getting

2629
02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:26,880
a knighting or

2630
02:33:26,880 --> 02:33:28,800
Adam Curry: something. Yeah, let
me read this because he'll be

2631
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:30,900
knighted. today. We'd like to
read night notes in the morning.

2632
02:33:30,900 --> 02:33:33,630
Today's donation is just a drop
in the bucket for the value I've

2633
02:33:33,630 --> 02:33:36,510
received from the show. I've
been listening since Adams first

2634
02:33:36,510 --> 02:33:39,810
appearance on roga Brogan and
Tina told me about the show.

2635
02:33:40,380 --> 02:33:44,370
Really good work to one or the
other. Proud to say the keeper

2636
02:33:44,370 --> 02:33:47,640
hit me in the mouth. I listened
to the live stream and again on

2637
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:51,120
the podcast to catch everything
I missed. I'm guilty guilty

2638
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:54,690
listened as a douchebag until
show 1500 Double credit couldn't

2639
02:33:54,690 --> 02:33:57,090
pass that up. I advise all of
you to take advantage of

2640
02:33:57,090 --> 02:34:00,420
something so wonderful happens
again. Stop being a douche bag

2641
02:34:00,420 --> 02:34:03,600
and get on a monthly donation or
at least a one time donation.

2642
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:06,210
You can see how many of your
friends tell you that they've

2643
02:34:06,210 --> 02:34:09,480
heard your name on the show, and
I'd like to call out Byron

2644
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:13,620
severance for being a douche
bag. That being said, I've

2645
02:34:13,620 --> 02:34:16,140
reached knighthood a couple of
months back but wanted to save

2646
02:34:16,140 --> 02:34:19,110
it for the 16th anniversary
show. Could I please be knighted

2647
02:34:19,110 --> 02:34:24,630
as serene? The NICU dead this
NICU NICU dad thank you again

2648
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:26,820
for all you do. I've always
wanted to say this could I get

2649
02:34:26,820 --> 02:34:30,090
some goat karma and a Sharpton
medley thanks again and sorry

2650
02:34:30,090 --> 02:34:32,700
for the long note. Yeah, I think
we should do that. We'd like to

2651
02:34:32,700 --> 02:34:36,840
stop for nights so I can give
you a little bit of a yes we got

2652
02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:38,430
it. We've got a fun little sharp
two men

2653
02:34:42,810 --> 02:34:46,020
Unknown: is getting lunch at
Chipotle

2654
02:34:47,460 --> 02:34:48,510
the turkeys

2655
02:34:49,620 --> 02:35:03,210
in the race. Condition. We've
ESP IICT they are in SPS karma

2656
02:35:05,160 --> 02:35:07,260
Adam Curry: Here we go. Let's
see on the podium in a moment.

2657
02:35:07,770 --> 02:35:11,520
John C Dvorak: Robert McGee 100
bucks Eyeland it looks like

2658
02:35:11,520 --> 02:35:19,530
Island Hamburg in Bellingham
Washington looks like 90 Here we

2659
02:35:19,530 --> 02:35:22,560
go. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord,
North Carolina. He is the

2660
02:35:22,920 --> 02:35:29,220
Archduke of Luna, lover of
American boobs 15 808 And he has

2661
02:35:29,220 --> 02:35:32,280
no more melons to plug in. By
the way, I think there are some

2662
02:35:32,280 --> 02:35:35,970
Asian melons that he has failed
to recognize. Oh, no, just Just

2663
02:35:35,970 --> 02:35:41,280
a note. Oh, wow. Jim Bharath in
north Wales, Pennsylvania, 6666

2664
02:35:41,310 --> 02:35:46,740
Craig Kohler in Evansville,
Indiana. 6502. Edward Bolla in

2665
02:35:46,740 --> 02:35:54,210
Dublin, Ireland small boobs. 606
Jame Jamie Buell in Vista,

2666
02:35:54,210 --> 02:36:00,150
California 606. Kevin McLaughlin
is back at 606 Again, lacking

2667
02:36:00,150 --> 02:36:07,650
the specific melons, a 606 small
boobs. Peter Chung in Lakewood,

2668
02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:16,920
Washington 5510 or poly Bravo.
Greeley, Colorado 52 ad. Bradley

2669
02:36:17,010 --> 02:36:23,460
Kirby in Burleson, Texas 5120
And now we have $50 donors and

2670
02:36:23,460 --> 02:36:27,240
I'll wrap off the names and the
location starting with Ray

2671
02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:31,620
Howard and Kremling Colorado
Justin Kaler and left town

2672
02:36:31,620 --> 02:36:35,040
Indiana David Steele in Mobile
Alabama

2673
02:36:36,120 --> 02:36:37,320
Adam Curry: automobile bill

2674
02:36:37,980 --> 02:36:41,400
John C Dvorak: but mobiles good
No. Gary rule because his

2675
02:36:41,400 --> 02:36:46,140
Alabama who cares what you say?
Gary rule in Merrimack North Hey

2676
02:36:46,170 --> 02:36:52,650
New Hampshire, North Hampshire.
Julie Mindanao min Nadeo min

2677
02:36:52,650 --> 02:36:58,110
Nadeo in custom Mesa, Brendon
lachelier In Sugar Hill,

2678
02:36:58,110 --> 02:37:04,200
Georgia. Ryan sharp in
Huntsville, Alabama. Kyle man in

2679
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:09,660
Cincinnati, Ohio, Gil woods in
Ocean Grove, New Jersey. And I

2680
02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:13,620
would it would be nice to move
the scroller, Danielle first

2681
02:37:13,710 --> 02:37:21,030
first in Cocona Wisconsin,
Jordan PITINO in Salem, Oregon.

2682
02:37:21,030 --> 02:37:25,560
Justin Heiner in another hyner
and Vine Grove, Kentucky dotted

2683
02:37:25,560 --> 02:37:32,220
mind in Lincoln's sure Lincoln,
UK Lincoln Lincolnshire. Tony

2684
02:37:32,220 --> 02:37:37,050
Lange in Castle Pines, Colorado
Jason Hart tongue in Gardner

2685
02:37:37,050 --> 02:37:41,220
Massachusetts, by Ichi ket a
Galois here in San Francisco.

2686
02:37:41,220 --> 02:37:46,200
And last but not least, Walker
Phillips here in San ravel. Want

2687
02:37:46,200 --> 02:37:49,890
to thank all these people for
making the show 1595 A

2688
02:37:50,970 --> 02:37:52,260
producible

2689
02:37:53,220 --> 02:37:55,650
Adam Curry: producible Thank
you. And especially thanks to

2690
02:37:55,650 --> 02:37:57,810
people who are on those
sustaining donations. We really

2691
02:37:57,810 --> 02:38:01,470
appreciate those recurring ones,
and everybody under $50 who

2692
02:38:01,500 --> 02:38:04,650
typically come in for reasons of
anonymity or sustaining

2693
02:38:04,650 --> 02:38:06,960
donations. We'd really
appreciate the value all the

2694
02:38:06,960 --> 02:38:09,780
time, talent and treasure that
you send back to us it keeps us

2695
02:38:09,780 --> 02:38:14,010
motivated keeps us going. And
we're still here almost 16 years

2696
02:38:14,010 --> 02:38:16,920
if you'd like to support us and
become a producer of the the no

2697
02:38:16,920 --> 02:38:18,900
agenda show. Well just go here

2698
02:38:18,929 --> 02:38:22,679
Unknown: for.org/n A and thank
you

2699
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:24,210
Adam Curry: one and all
especially the execs and

2700
02:38:24,210 --> 02:38:27,600
Associates for supporting 1595
Our formula

2701
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:31,560
Unknown: is this. We go out we
get people in the mouth

2702
02:38:43,800 --> 02:38:46,800
Adam Curry: and the karma you
requested is right here you've

2703
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:48,120
got karma

2704
02:38:56,700 --> 02:39:00,630
we have sir Robertson of two
sticks turning 44. Today Anna

2705
02:39:00,630 --> 02:39:04,170
Johnson wishing her smokin hot
husband Mark Johnson the happy

2706
02:39:04,170 --> 02:39:08,220
one he turns 40 On the seventh
of October, and Vince Dame is

2707
02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:11,370
turning 25 We say Happy Birthday
these people on behalf of the

2708
02:39:11,370 --> 02:39:17,610
best podcast in the universe. I
Phoebe, she just came home. Hi,

2709
02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:21,750
baby. Hello. Fi became home. So
happy to see her.

2710
02:39:22,260 --> 02:39:24,270
John C Dvorak: But she just came
home now where was she? Was she

2711
02:39:24,270 --> 02:39:25,530
out hitchhiking? Remember?

2712
02:39:27,090 --> 02:39:29,070
Adam Curry: Yes, she was out
hitchhiking. Don't you remember?

2713
02:39:30,090 --> 02:39:31,800
We had picked up we went to
Houston.

2714
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:34,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Well,
there you go. But you didn't

2715
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:35,910
pick her up when you got back?

2716
02:39:35,970 --> 02:39:39,120
Adam Curry: No, she was dropped
off. We have a pickup and drop

2717
02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:40,200
off service a baby.

2718
02:39:40,290 --> 02:39:42,390
John C Dvorak: Mo what's going
on?

2719
02:39:43,500 --> 02:39:45,600
Adam Curry: Give me your blade.
Man. We got some people waiting

2720
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:45,960
here on the

2721
02:39:46,290 --> 02:39:48,060
John C Dvorak: Gatorade. Nice.
There you go.

2722
02:39:49,650 --> 02:39:53,310
Adam Curry: Well, William, Rob
and Alex of Isla stepping up

2723
02:39:53,310 --> 02:39:57,060
both of you have supported the
no agenda show in the amount of

2724
02:39:57,060 --> 02:40:00,540
$1,000 or more and we really
appreciate that and nearby are

2725
02:40:00,540 --> 02:40:05,580
very proud and pronounced the
gate the as Sir Excellency and

2726
02:40:05,580 --> 02:40:09,180
serene the NICU dad for you
we've got hookers and blow rent

2727
02:40:09,180 --> 02:40:12,780
boys and Chardonnay by request
the finest gluten free smoke

2728
02:40:12,780 --> 02:40:16,470
kelp dip and pheasant Ridge
wine. We also have some harlots

2729
02:40:16,470 --> 02:40:19,860
somehow dolls we got some that
beer and blondes proven so women

2730
02:40:19,860 --> 02:40:22,380
and Rosie gates in his sock a
buck up until a bong hits and

2731
02:40:22,380 --> 02:40:24,420
bourbon sparkling cider
Netzwerk, ginger ale and

2732
02:40:24,420 --> 02:40:27,600
dribbles. Of course they've got
breast milk and pablum, or if

2733
02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:31,770
you wish, mutton and Mead.
Welcome to that roundtable of

2734
02:40:31,770 --> 02:40:35,010
the Knights in the dames go to
no agenda rings.com Go take a

2735
02:40:35,010 --> 02:40:37,080
look. Everybody can see them.
They're handsome. They're

2736
02:40:37,080 --> 02:40:40,080
beautiful. Only you two however
today can receive them by

2737
02:40:40,080 --> 02:40:43,260
sending us your ring size.
There's a handy sizing guide

2738
02:40:43,260 --> 02:40:46,260
there and an address where we
send the rings and wax to seal

2739
02:40:46,260 --> 02:40:48,630
your important correspondence
with because they are Signet

2740
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:51,660
rings. And of course the
certificate of authenticity no

2741
02:40:51,660 --> 02:40:51,990
one

2742
02:40:59,520 --> 02:41:02,160
the no agenda meetups there was
one in Houston we couldn't make

2743
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:04,830
it. It was the same time as the
award show. Hopefully we'll get

2744
02:41:04,830 --> 02:41:07,650
a nice report from them. The
Texas meetups are always

2745
02:41:07,650 --> 02:41:11,610
grandiose, really all around the
world these meetups take place

2746
02:41:11,610 --> 02:41:14,760
it is a companion to listening
to the best podcasts and

2747
02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:17,670
universities being a part of the
community of your local

2748
02:41:17,670 --> 02:41:21,060
community. You really need this
because when the caca hits the

2749
02:41:21,060 --> 02:41:24,690
fan a connection is protection.
You want to know these people.

2750
02:41:24,930 --> 02:41:27,720
Here's an example of the people
in Columbus Ohio.

2751
02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:32,850
Unknown: This is Sir Leary
letting John know that Ohio does

2752
02:41:32,850 --> 02:41:33,930
have meetups

2753
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:38,580
Hello this is the night formerly
known as Sir Baba hotel. And I'm

2754
02:41:38,580 --> 02:41:41,880
letting you know that Damon
Bateman's real name is gaming

2755
02:41:41,880 --> 02:41:42,540
Fatman

2756
02:41:42,750 --> 02:41:46,320
hey now this is Damon and I will
retard Hill.

2757
02:41:47,400 --> 02:41:49,650
Visiting from Fort Wayne having
a great time

2758
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:53,820
sir PVR street gang. See you in
Indy. Adam

2759
02:41:53,970 --> 02:41:57,330
in the morning gentlemen, this
is Mark from Columbus where we

2760
02:41:57,330 --> 02:42:00,930
always keep our phones on the
line. Thank you for girge

2761
02:42:00,960 --> 02:42:03,510
Yeah, I don't have a name. I
don't even listen to your show.

2762
02:42:03,510 --> 02:42:07,170
But my buddy Sparky did and he
used to contribute and I've sent

2763
02:42:07,170 --> 02:42:09,270
you messages from Tucson. Aloha.

2764
02:42:09,330 --> 02:42:10,290
Thank you gentlemen.

2765
02:42:13,080 --> 02:42:17,280
Adam Curry: More. Idaho also has
some people hanging out there

2766
02:42:17,310 --> 02:42:20,220
particularly in North Idaho the
Saturday brigade meet once

2767
02:42:20,220 --> 02:42:23,970
Unknown: again at the Selkirk
Abbey in Post Falls Idaho it sir

2768
02:42:23,970 --> 02:42:28,350
Scott the Jew the bartender's at
Selkirk used to be hot, not ugly

2769
02:42:28,350 --> 02:42:29,490
with green hair.

2770
02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:33,270
I'm just getting mixed, gorgeous
sir Devo here shapeshifting back

2771
02:42:33,270 --> 02:42:36,690
west from Minnesota nuts as John
likes to call it, but I gotta

2772
02:42:36,690 --> 02:42:38,580
get my Tiktok fix once in a
while.

2773
02:42:38,610 --> 02:42:42,270
This has been a very good meetup
mixed the bartender here with

2774
02:42:42,270 --> 02:42:45,780
the no agenda crew and just for
the record, my green hair is

2775
02:42:45,780 --> 02:42:48,570
bitch and see all best deal.
Hell yeah.

2776
02:42:48,660 --> 02:42:51,420
Adam Curry: And Denver. How's it
going up there? Oh, they got to

2777
02:42:51,420 --> 02:42:55,800
production. Here we go. Hello,
Denver. Did a new

2778
02:42:57,630 --> 02:43:01,350
Unknown: podcast. Gotcha. Cory
from Denver, and the morning,

2779
02:43:01,500 --> 02:43:05,760
says Neri it's my first meetup.
It is like a party. Alex here in

2780
02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:08,490
the morning. First meet up Jim
from Denver in the morning

2781
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:13,170
Colorado. Carebear. Check in Sir
Peter gets things great evening

2782
02:43:13,200 --> 02:43:15,810
the moons in retrograde or
something but it's wild.

2783
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:19,380
Adam Curry: I mean, don't just
want to hang out with people

2784
02:43:19,380 --> 02:43:22,410
like that. They sound fantastic.
No agenda meetups taking place

2785
02:43:22,410 --> 02:43:26,970
today and we'll see at barcade
in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

2786
02:43:26,970 --> 02:43:30,510
noodle gun safety meeting. Oh,
you got to be a part of that. Or

2787
02:43:30,510 --> 02:43:34,110
on Wednesday, the Wednesday
Webster County were wet when

2788
02:43:34,110 --> 02:43:36,900
your whistle meet up five
o'clock at Community tap and

2789
02:43:36,900 --> 02:43:41,130
pizza. That's Fort Dodge Iowa.
And the next show day Thursday

2790
02:43:41,130 --> 02:43:45,990
in northern wake Rocktober
Rocktober at Compass Rose

2791
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:49,470
brewery in Raleigh, North
Carolina. Coming up this month

2792
02:43:49,470 --> 02:43:52,680
Toms River New Jersey is my my
old stomping grounds that'll be

2793
02:43:52,680 --> 02:43:57,360
on the seventh. We got to see we
got to Arkansas North Carolina

2794
02:43:57,360 --> 02:44:03,510
Alaska. Oh, ciao Paula centro,
Jalisco Mexico. Interesting.

2795
02:44:03,960 --> 02:44:08,520
Alabama, Oregon Houston the
Houston no the Indy meet up we

2796
02:44:08,520 --> 02:44:12,570
got another North Carolina
Albany California. Hey. Albany

2797
02:44:12,570 --> 02:44:14,520
California that's in your neck
of the woods John.

2798
02:44:15,210 --> 02:44:17,040
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and it
looks like they're gonna have it

2799
02:44:17,040 --> 02:44:20,670
at a I think it's called get
John out of the house meet up.

2800
02:44:21,660 --> 02:44:24,150
It's going to be at a dark bar

2801
02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:27,300
Adam Curry: with a with a dark
room.

2802
02:44:27,720 --> 02:44:29,910
John C Dvorak: A dark blue it's
just dark is one of those bars

2803
02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:32,100
is an old fashioned bar from
like the 50s Well, you're

2804
02:44:32,100 --> 02:44:33,510
Adam Curry: gonna go on it.
Yeah, I mean, they're doing a

2805
02:44:33,510 --> 02:44:37,650
meet up to get you out of the
house. Probably. I'll come on

2806
02:44:37,650 --> 02:44:40,860
go. Don't make me call Jay and
make her make a we'll

2807
02:44:40,890 --> 02:44:42,930
John C Dvorak: go to this
meeting. Maybe Jake and come to

2808
02:44:42,930 --> 02:44:43,320
the meetup.

2809
02:44:43,770 --> 02:44:48,210
Adam Curry: Yes, she should be
your your chaperone. Just in

2810
02:44:48,210 --> 02:44:52,050
case you never know. No. Agenda
meetups. There you go. John's

2811
02:44:52,050 --> 02:44:54,540
going to be at the Albany
meetup. I'm going to be with the

2812
02:44:54,540 --> 02:44:58,590
keeper. We're going to be at the
end meetup beginning of December

2813
02:44:58,590 --> 02:45:02,070
details to follow but most
importantly go find the people

2814
02:45:02,070 --> 02:45:04,860
from your local no agenda
family, get mo nation, it's

2815
02:45:04,860 --> 02:45:09,270
everywhere. You need to hang out
with people because otherwise

2816
02:45:09,300 --> 02:45:13,350
you know you're just sitting at
home just listening to the show

2817
02:45:13,830 --> 02:45:19,080
with us really fun people to be
hanging out with no agenda

2818
02:45:19,080 --> 02:45:22,530
meetups.com If you can't find
one near you start one yourself

2819
02:45:22,530 --> 02:45:24,210
it's easy and always the party.

2820
02:45:25,170 --> 02:45:32,610
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson day. You

2821
02:45:33,690 --> 02:45:43,680
won't be triggered on YouTube.
Say is like

2822
02:45:46,080 --> 02:45:52,140
Adam Curry: well, you're gonna
win. Because I have no ISOs I

2823
02:45:52,140 --> 02:45:54,780
feel very bad but I was
traveling and didn't get the

2824
02:45:54,780 --> 02:45:55,470
ISOs

2825
02:45:56,070 --> 02:45:59,940
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
one night so I think it's a fail

2826
02:45:59,940 --> 02:46:02,550
because I think there wasn't
clipped bright or something. Oh,

2827
02:46:03,360 --> 02:46:05,670
and that's the stinks. ISO let
me

2828
02:46:05,670 --> 02:46:09,270
Adam Curry: see doesn't stink.
It's not that bad. A little

2829
02:46:09,270 --> 02:46:10,980
short doesn't stink. Okay.

2830
02:46:11,730 --> 02:46:14,130
John C Dvorak: And so then the
other one, which I think it

2831
02:46:14,130 --> 02:46:17,220
will, it's a good evergreen ISO,
it should work. Thank you so

2832
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:17,610
much.

2833
02:46:18,720 --> 02:46:21,510
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, since we
have nothing else, I'll just

2834
02:46:21,510 --> 02:46:22,530
have to do well, thank

2835
02:46:22,530 --> 02:46:24,690
John C Dvorak: you so much. Tock
tock tick tock.

2836
02:46:28,260 --> 02:46:30,720
Adam Curry: John's tick tock
clips. He has some dynamite

2837
02:46:30,720 --> 02:46:33,480
minds. We're very excited about
your tic tock loops.

2838
02:46:34,140 --> 02:46:36,330
John C Dvorak: First of all,
let's play this one. This is the

2839
02:46:36,330 --> 02:46:42,480
classic tic tock genius
discussing musk. There's a

2840
02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:46,290
person who I believe is dead
serious. If there's 10

2841
02:46:46,290 --> 02:46:49,200
Unknown: billion people on earth
and Elon Musk has $200 billion.

2842
02:46:49,740 --> 02:46:53,280
Can't he just give each person 1
billion? Here's the twist. You

2843
02:46:53,280 --> 02:46:57,900
will still have $190 billion
leftover. Isn't that concerning?

2844
02:46:58,110 --> 02:47:02,940
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Yeah,
that's that. Yes. I think you're

2845
02:47:02,940 --> 02:47:06,900
right. That person is dead
serious and dead stupid.

2846
02:47:09,030 --> 02:47:13,200
John C Dvorak: Kids stupid. Good
show name. Kids stupid heads.

2847
02:47:14,010 --> 02:47:17,910
Okay, so now I've got a tick
tock, this guy who does? Who

2848
02:47:17,910 --> 02:47:21,660
puts his his image of black guy
who puts his image on the screen

2849
02:47:21,660 --> 02:47:25,950
and rolls his eyes while some
tick tock nutcase is going on

2850
02:47:25,950 --> 02:47:29,370
and about some he's really good.
I got to start following him

2851
02:47:29,370 --> 02:47:34,320
more. But he comes up with a
little bit at the answer is kind

2852
02:47:34,320 --> 02:47:38,340
of a two part of this. All in
one clip, where he pretty much

2853
02:47:38,340 --> 02:47:43,320
elucidates, I think, the real
problem with pronouns at the end

2854
02:47:43,320 --> 02:47:48,780
the way he does it is, is I, I
like it a lot. But let's listen

2855
02:47:48,780 --> 02:47:53,130
to the pronoun woman who is
really disturbed looking

2856
02:47:53,130 --> 02:47:53,910
individual.

2857
02:47:54,180 --> 02:47:57,480
Unknown: And you know, I'm
tired, seven in the morning at

2858
02:47:57,480 --> 02:48:02,190
the physical therapy office
misgendered by someone who I've

2859
02:48:02,190 --> 02:48:05,100
told my pronouns to, and I said,
just to let you know, my

2860
02:48:05,100 --> 02:48:07,380
pronouns, are they them? And
they went, Oh, yeah, that's

2861
02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:15,030
right. Yeah, that's right. And
then I had to explain to many

2862
02:48:15,030 --> 02:48:19,830
times to my physical therapist,
that I didn't want to do an

2863
02:48:19,830 --> 02:48:25,350
exercise where I had to crunch
my face into my boobs, because

2864
02:48:25,350 --> 02:48:29,820
that gave me gives me gender
dysphoria. And I ended up

2865
02:48:29,820 --> 02:48:35,610
getting upset and started to
softly crying, and then quietly

2866
02:48:35,640 --> 02:48:40,200
begged to leave and have the
physical therapist just email me

2867
02:48:40,560 --> 02:48:44,670
the exercises, so I wouldn't
have to actually be in the space

2868
02:48:45,810 --> 02:48:49,380
to do them, and I could see them
at home. You know, I don't feel

2869
02:48:49,380 --> 02:48:55,500
comfortable in most places in
society. But when it comes to

2870
02:48:56,040 --> 02:49:02,100
being at the doctor's office,
it's important to feel cared for

2871
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:08,010
respected. Have your humanity
honored? And I'm just I'm tired.

2872
02:49:08,100 --> 02:49:12,720
I'm real tired. And I've had a
rough morning,

2873
02:49:13,109 --> 02:49:16,259
somebody raised this, somebody
did, you should be ashamed of

2874
02:49:16,259 --> 02:49:19,259
yourself. You're raising a
feckless individual that cannot

2875
02:49:19,259 --> 02:49:22,049
function in society as a
functional human human being.

2876
02:49:22,079 --> 02:49:24,899
It's your fault, Mama, daddy,
whoever raised this person, it's

2877
02:49:24,899 --> 02:49:26,969
your fault. Just this has made
it it's your fault. There's no

2878
02:49:26,969 --> 02:49:29,399
way in the world are you an
adult and you getting butthurt

2879
02:49:29,399 --> 02:49:31,859
and you crying softly in the
doctor's office because somebody

2880
02:49:31,859 --> 02:49:33,899
forget to call you something
that's not even grammatically

2881
02:49:33,899 --> 02:49:36,629
correct. Like the pronoun is not
grammatically correct. It's not

2882
02:49:36,659 --> 02:49:39,869
English language. You cannot be
a singular person but yet you're

2883
02:49:39,869 --> 02:49:43,469
calling yourself a plurality of
persons. You cannot be a fool

2884
02:49:43,469 --> 02:49:47,099
you just one person you cannot
be them. You just one person and

2885
02:49:47,099 --> 02:49:50,669
how are you mad at other people
who refuse to defy the English

2886
02:49:50,669 --> 02:49:53,369
language? How about you have the
respect for the humanity of

2887
02:49:53,369 --> 02:49:56,159
others and accept the fact that
some people may not want to call

2888
02:49:56,159 --> 02:49:58,859
you something that is not even
reasonable and it's not even

2889
02:49:58,889 --> 02:50:01,739
appropriate when it comes? To
the language that we all agreed

2890
02:50:01,739 --> 02:50:02,339
to speak.

2891
02:50:02,670 --> 02:50:04,680
Adam Curry: I think it works
better when you can see the guy.

2892
02:50:06,630 --> 02:50:09,000
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
better if you can see her.

2893
02:50:09,059 --> 02:50:11,609
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, yeah,
that's for sure. Yeah, it was

2894
02:50:11,609 --> 02:50:14,729
interesting. At the at the
conference, there was a vocal

2895
02:50:14,729 --> 02:50:19,259
coach. And this guy is really a
vocal coach for singers with

2896
02:50:19,259 --> 02:50:22,979
some of the biggest names in
country and, and gospel

2897
02:50:22,979 --> 02:50:29,159
Nashville guy. Sure. And he was
trying to explain why it wasn't

2898
02:50:29,159 --> 02:50:32,999
trying was succeeding very well,
that what you need to do if you

2899
02:50:32,999 --> 02:50:37,109
really want your voice or what
you're saying, to come across,

2900
02:50:38,939 --> 02:50:42,419
in a way that people not just
hear it, but are drawn into it.

2901
02:50:42,419 --> 02:50:45,749
And he does this with you know,
he's the kind of guy that you

2902
02:50:45,749 --> 02:50:48,359
know, someone's gonna go on
stage, they got 10,000 people in

2903
02:50:48,359 --> 02:50:51,629
the audience, they call them two
hours before it's like, I can't

2904
02:50:51,629 --> 02:50:54,449
I can't hang out. I don't want
my voice is not the way I want

2905
02:50:54,449 --> 02:50:58,769
it to be. I need you to help me.
And he said, and he gave

2906
02:50:58,769 --> 02:51:03,419
examples of this actually with
Simon and Garfunkel and some

2907
02:51:03,419 --> 02:51:07,469
other songs as the same song but
sung in different ways. He says

2908
02:51:07,469 --> 02:51:09,959
if you prolong your consonant,

2909
02:51:11,070 --> 02:51:13,500
John C Dvorak: your what your
Will the consonant consonant.

2910
02:51:13,619 --> 02:51:17,339
Adam Curry: He says, as he gave
examples, it was amazing how

2911
02:51:17,339 --> 02:51:24,149
when you prolong your constants,
as I just did, how people get

2912
02:51:24,149 --> 02:51:27,899
drawn in and listen to you and
you're much more enjoyable to

2913
02:51:27,899 --> 02:51:30,539
listen to in your in your
information will come across

2914
02:51:30,539 --> 02:51:34,589
better. It is the exact opposite
of what these morons are doing.

2915
02:51:35,159 --> 02:51:37,859
Because they're extending their
vowels and dropping their

2916
02:51:37,859 --> 02:51:43,049
consonants like T's. Hmm, I just
thought that was fair. Right?

2917
02:51:43,079 --> 02:51:50,459
Fascinating. All right. Got it
vocal right there. Whereas it's

2918
02:51:50,579 --> 02:51:59,219
the T's and the SS and the DS.
And the Gs, Gs, Gs. Anyway, free

2919
02:51:59,219 --> 02:52:02,429
lesson, everybody. I've got one
more clip that I think is in

2920
02:52:02,549 --> 02:52:04,799
watch. They have two very
important news.

2921
02:52:05,220 --> 02:52:08,670
Unknown: We have some sad views
coming from American zoos. It

2922
02:52:08,670 --> 02:52:12,900
seems that Chinese pandas will
leave America, we're talking

2923
02:52:12,900 --> 02:52:17,190
about some of the most popular
attractions in Washington DC

2924
02:52:17,190 --> 02:52:21,690
zoos, not to mention Atlanta,
Memphis, San Diego as well. I

2925
02:52:21,690 --> 02:52:25,080
haven't personally seen them. I
would have loved to see them.

2926
02:52:25,080 --> 02:52:29,040
But it seems given a look at
that. Who doesn't want to see

2927
02:52:29,040 --> 02:52:33,300
pandas? It just makes us happy.
But it seems given the ongoing

2928
02:52:33,300 --> 02:52:36,450
tensions between Washington and
Beijing they will no longer be

2929
02:52:36,450 --> 02:52:40,200
available after more than 50
years of spending time here in

2930
02:52:40,200 --> 02:52:41,130
the US.

2931
02:52:41,310 --> 02:52:44,220
Adam Curry: Ah, can they recall
the pandas? Are they allowed

2932
02:52:44,220 --> 02:52:46,110
John C Dvorak: to they were
always licensed anyway, they

2933
02:52:46,500 --> 02:52:50,190
never owned them. Oh, I didn't
know they were all all pandas in

2934
02:52:50,190 --> 02:52:53,400
the world are licensed by the
Chinese. But you have to there's

2935
02:52:53,400 --> 02:52:54,180
a EULA.

2936
02:52:57,120 --> 02:53:00,630
Adam Curry: I didn't know that I
didn't know the license. So they

2937
02:53:00,630 --> 02:53:02,310
can retract the license at

2938
02:53:02,310 --> 02:53:04,950
John C Dvorak: any time they can
retrieve the Panadol. And if

2939
02:53:04,950 --> 02:53:08,190
they if they have babies, the
babies belong as part of this

2940
02:53:08,190 --> 02:53:12,780
like a typical classic EULA.
Babies belong to China to wow.

2941
02:53:13,770 --> 02:53:16,500
So I was always thinking that
one of the one of these is to be

2942
02:53:16,500 --> 02:53:20,850
creative and kind of slip a baby
panda, you know, fly everybody,

2943
02:53:20,850 --> 02:53:22,410
but they've never managed to do
it.

2944
02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:25,110
Adam Curry: And this, this one
that this, I don't know if you

2945
02:53:25,110 --> 02:53:28,320
have anything else. But this
last clip this was there was a

2946
02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:32,820
hearing, which didn't get a lot
of traction. And it was about

2947
02:53:32,820 --> 02:53:39,780
the Lahaina fire. And you recall
that our our insider in the

2948
02:53:39,810 --> 02:53:46,170
electric electricity industry
had found out that the even

2949
02:53:46,170 --> 02:53:51,420
though the power had been shut
off from the power company, that

2950
02:53:51,420 --> 02:53:56,190
the hotels were still pumping
their energy back into the grid

2951
02:53:56,190 --> 02:53:59,370
through their generators. Do you
remember that? Yeah,

2952
02:53:59,520 --> 02:54:00,630
John C Dvorak: I remember it.
Well. Now

2953
02:54:00,630 --> 02:54:03,870
Adam Curry: here is the
president of Hawaiian Electric.

2954
02:54:04,260 --> 02:54:07,800
She really Kimora and here's
what she testified to

2955
02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:12,330
Unknown: on that day of fire at
6:30am. What I will refer to as

2956
02:54:12,330 --> 02:54:15,960
the morning fire appears to have
been caused by Hawaiian Electric

2957
02:54:15,960 --> 02:54:20,880
power lines that fell in high
winds. The Maui County Fire

2958
02:54:20,880 --> 02:54:26,280
Department promptly responded to
this fire. They reported that by

2959
02:54:26,280 --> 02:54:31,200
9am it was contained. After
monitoring it for several hours,

2960
02:54:31,320 --> 02:54:35,040
the fire department determined
the fire had been extinguished.

2961
02:54:35,460 --> 02:54:41,100
They left the scene in the early
afternoon at about 3pm A time

2962
02:54:41,100 --> 02:54:46,020
when all of Hawaiian Electric's
power lines in West Maui had

2963
02:54:46,020 --> 02:54:51,000
been de energized for more than
six hours a second fire, the

2964
02:54:51,000 --> 02:54:56,820
afternoon fire began in the same
area. The cause of that

2965
02:54:56,820 --> 02:55:00,720
afternoon fire that spread to
Lahaina has has not been

2966
02:55:00,720 --> 02:55:05,130
determined. We are working
tirelessly to figure out what

2967
02:55:05,130 --> 02:55:08,190
happened and we are cooperating
fully with federal and state

2968
02:55:08,190 --> 02:55:12,780
investigators who have indicated
it may take 12 to 18 months to

2969
02:55:12,780 --> 02:55:13,350
conclude,

2970
02:55:13,379 --> 02:55:16,529
Adam Curry: Oh, how about when
we know exactly what happened?

2971
02:55:17,519 --> 02:55:20,909
The wires were down there were
energized because the hotels had

2972
02:55:20,909 --> 02:55:24,089
their generators still hooked
up. We're pumping energy back

2973
02:55:24,089 --> 02:55:28,859
into the back end system. So
they now they got it now that

2974
02:55:28,859 --> 02:55:31,919
this I think there's some
negotiating who's going to take

2975
02:55:31,919 --> 02:55:32,819
the fall for it.

2976
02:55:33,179 --> 02:55:36,449
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
where the 18 months what a visit

2977
02:55:36,479 --> 02:55:39,209
take 18 months or is that kind
of investigation?

2978
02:55:39,240 --> 02:55:42,120
Adam Curry: It's who he is who
he I tell you, it's who he is

2979
02:55:42,120 --> 02:55:46,590
who he is who he who he very sad
that that can't just come clean

2980
02:55:46,590 --> 02:55:52,950
with people, you know? That
story dropped out, didn't it?

2981
02:55:54,690 --> 02:55:56,040
John C Dvorak: Never. You know,
there's

2982
02:55:56,040 --> 02:55:58,260
Adam Curry: pizza. Well, no, I
mean, forget about just the fire

2983
02:55:58,260 --> 02:56:01,140
in general. Oh, yeah. No, forget
it. People are homeless out

2984
02:56:01,140 --> 02:56:06,930
there. It's nuts. Coming up next
on no agenda. stream.com we have

2985
02:56:06,930 --> 02:56:11,040
the bowls with buds with Steven
Bell. Wow. Steven Bell, one of

2986
02:56:11,040 --> 02:56:15,900
the big software developers of
podcasting. 2.0 It should be

2987
02:56:15,900 --> 02:56:22,770
fun. And the show mixes Billy
Bones we got him. You see we

2988
02:56:22,770 --> 02:56:26,940
have a classic Obama phone
remix. And we have Brendan Epps,

2989
02:56:26,940 --> 02:56:30,540
boogie boogie boogie cat much,
much better than that. We'll be

2990
02:56:30,540 --> 02:56:36,060
back on on Thursday. Until then,
I'm Adam curry coming to you

2991
02:56:36,060 --> 02:56:39,000
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country. And FEMA Region number

2992
02:56:39,000 --> 02:56:40,980
six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry,

2993
02:56:41,430 --> 02:56:45,030
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley. Where I remain

2994
02:56:45,030 --> 02:56:46,170
on Jhansi Dvorak There

2995
02:56:46,170 --> 02:56:48,810
Adam Curry: we go. We'll be back
on Thursday. Please remember us

2996
02:56:48,990 --> 02:56:53,730
send us some value at the
vortec.org/na We'll see you then

2997
02:56:53,730 --> 02:57:01,920
take care everybody adios mofos
Hui, and such we have

2998
02:57:02,130 --> 02:57:04,740
John C Dvorak: a bunch of
different subcultures of birds

2999
02:57:04,740 --> 02:57:10,140
around the Blue Jays. Crows
ravens, but these dubs had moved

3000
02:57:10,140 --> 02:57:13,050
in they've never been here
before and the mood at all

3001
02:57:13,050 --> 02:57:18,060
songbirds when I first heard was
I thought an owl was your during

3002
02:57:18,060 --> 02:57:26,130
the day there's nothing worse
it's driving me nuts and gonna

3003
02:57:26,130 --> 02:57:34,170
get a rifle as you start picking
them off it's 123 ACP and trust

3004
02:57:34,170 --> 02:57:46,830
you and all they do is go worse
it's driving me nuts There's

3005
02:57:46,830 --> 02:57:54,750
dogs who have no idea how much I
hate them. I do I do.

3006
02:58:08,160 --> 02:58:12,120
Unknown: And finally, for the
most unusual prerace prayers you

3007
02:58:12,600 --> 02:58:13,230
will ever hear.

3008
02:58:14,670 --> 02:58:15,810
By the way thank you

3009
02:58:16,290 --> 02:58:20,610
for all the blessings in and all
planes new planes. So, we want

3010
02:58:20,610 --> 02:58:23,760
to thank you for these mighty
machines that you brought the

3011
02:58:23,760 --> 02:58:41,400
fourth and last of all together
was a big mistake racing

3012
02:58:51,060 --> 02:58:51,660
drivers

3013
02:58:58,320 --> 02:59:13,470
to lease cars we drive these
great diseases

3014
02:59:22,350 --> 02:59:23,460
drought is in use

3015
02:59:50,460 --> 02:59:56,430
presidents do not behave
presidents

3016
02:59:59,760 --> 03:00:04,830
you I'll post disability

3017
03:00:27,780 --> 03:00:34,230
presidents and presidents you
now

3018
03:00:47,790 --> 03:00:51,180
you all know

3019
03:01:08,010 --> 03:01:09,180
you able to follow

3020
03:01:15,750 --> 03:01:26,400
president's you now presidents
you now bar you on Paul statue

3021
03:01:26,400 --> 03:01:30,180
on your disability

3022
03:01:49,980 --> 03:01:56,190
mobo borg.org/n A thank you so
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