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John C Dvorak: Now we know I
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it. Adam curry,

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Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak.
Thursday, September 28 2023.

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This is your award winning
combination media assassination

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episode 1594. This

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Unknown: is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: dodging the large
language models and broadcasting

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live from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in Meridian

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number six in the morning,
everybody.

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John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry,
from Northern Silicon Valley

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where we've noticed they've
gotten nuts in Canada. I'm John

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C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: This was this is the
best the best thing that could

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have happened.

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John C Dvorak: Hey, you know,
candidate wants to get more

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coverage on our show.

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Adam Curry: They'll do anything.
There's it's absolutely the

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best. And we saw this happen. I
keep I kept getting on notes

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from people. I'm like, well, we
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After that, because we
deconstruct media. I'll just

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kick this. This off with two
short ones from ABC. So here's

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here's earlier in the week, also
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Unknown: Canada, an uproar after
a former Nazi got a standing

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ovation in the Canadian
Parliament. It all started when

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Ukraine's president spoke to
lawmakers then the Speaker of

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the House praised a 98 year old
Ukrainian man who once served in

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a Nazi unit accused of genocide.
The man's past had apparently

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not been vetted the speaker
apologize but is facing calls to

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resign. And then the next report
there's new fallout after a

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former Nazi was invited to the
Canadian Parliament and got a

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standing ovation. It happened
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visiting the Speaker of the
House who invited the 98 year

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old former Nazi from Ukraine has
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vetting that guest.

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John C Dvorak: Though I have I
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including three kind of
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Trudeau said one thing and it
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and then he came into the front
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with that report? And it was
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mishandled. He got to standing
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Adam Curry: who will get it Can
I just say one thing? That whole

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parliament, everybody there
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They're all dumb. How dumb are
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all, it's not the Russians. It
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They're completely brainwashed
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John C Dvorak: As I pointed out
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the photos, yes, these people
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including a members of the
military, high ranking members

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of the military that were
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clapping away like like, like
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Adam Curry: I mean, but
literally, pans above their

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head, you know, like, oh, yeah,
yeah, F Russia, F. Putin. Hello,

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dummies? Are they dumb? And I
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hesitate for a second he had
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he realized when he when he was
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Russians. That you could just
see something in his brain

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John C Dvorak: I have that I
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don't I didn't notice that. I
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reading the rules. And by the
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clips, I've got four of them.
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There's no doubt in my mind that
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humiliate a Liberal Party.

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Adam Curry: Well, that worked.
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their own later.

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John C Dvorak: Well, they're all
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and clapped the loudest, the guy
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House, not the speaker, but the
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all in on this war. You can tell
when you hear him I've got I got

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Adam Curry: That's not a bad
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this was set up not not to get
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embarrass the the liberals in

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John C Dvorak: embarrassed both
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embarrassed the Government of
Canada. Yes. Yes. And how did it

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come to be? We've never got a
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speakers had a friend and
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Adam Curry: it started with no,
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Oh, boy. Look, there's my guy.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, so we start
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a Trudeau House Speaker is the
trigger. This is the speech that

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highlighted him and got him. Two
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Unknown: here in the chamber
today, Ukrainian Canadians,

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Ukrainian Canadian world veteran
from the Second World War who

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fought the Ukrainian
independence against the

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Russians and continues to
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his age of 98.

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Yeah, for 18 year old Canadian
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his service. Thank you

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Adam Curry: so that was true
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John C Dvorak: No, no, no, that
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Adam Curry: I was confused. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: sound I know he
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have been. I mean, the voice is
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is the first thing Trudeau does
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this is Trudeau. Nazi apology.

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Unknown: Obviously, it's
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happened. The speaker speaker
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and as apologized that this is
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embarrassing to the Parliament
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all Canadians. I think
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all members of the Jewish
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celebrating or commemorating Yom
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to be really important that all
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propaganda, Russian
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steadfast and unequivocal
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last week, with announcing
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Ukraine in Russia's illegal war
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Adam Curry: Hey, happy Yom
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John C Dvorak: Had that with the
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disinformation?

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Adam Curry: That's how it ended?
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John C Dvorak: You Yeah. Right.
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backtrack on that. Because he
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he goes in front of Parliament.
We have producer Nicholas sent

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me this note with a timeline.

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Adam Curry: Wait, Nick sends you
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John C Dvorak: the Dizzy oh,
these guys do this. They say

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they're all bipolar.

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Adam Curry: No, they send stuff
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mean, we do have some of the
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gotta be careful. If you send it
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often doesn't get played at all
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both on the email. But they send
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separately, then we actually
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clips. Yeah, don't do that.
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one. All right. So

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John C Dvorak: he goes on. He
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Ambassador made a plea for an
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recognizes Polish grievances.
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resigned rotor resigned after
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know, he says while he's still
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afterwards and after resigned.
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same apology by Trudeau. And
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apology. In this case, what he
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felt aggrieved and even people
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them on this list I'm I'm sorry
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Unknown: in a few moments, I
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of all Canadians in front of
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the world, and Ukrainians to
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apologies for what happened on
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responsible for the invitation
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his wholly accepted that
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This was a mistake that has
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and Canada. All of us who were
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deeply having stood and clapped.
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the context, it was a horrendous
violation of the memory of the

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millions of people who died in
the Holocaust. And it was

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deeply, deeply painful for
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Polish people, Roma people next
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disabled people racialized
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Adam Curry: No, no, stop. No,
no, this is edited. This is

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edited. He did not say to spirit
people, disabled people, did he?

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John C Dvorak: Yes. No, not
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Adam Curry: This is This is
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Unknown: And it was deeply,
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people. It also hurt Polish
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plus people, disabled people
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millions who were targeted by
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Adam Curry: Nicolas, you're off
my list. I can't believe you

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gave that clip to John.

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John C Dvorak: No, he didn't
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Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
All right. He's back on the

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list. This is dynamite. In fact,
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away. I mean, if you told me
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John C Dvorak: that's crazy.
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Adam Curry: going after two
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, everything
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Adam Curry: How about dwarfs? We
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John C Dvorak: you right because
divorce would have been on the

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list it gypsies gotta go back
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Adam Curry: so well, you just
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I'll be quiet now. That's crazy.
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John C Dvorak: So then he goes
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opposition to who's Pierre Irish
last name is. I had it written

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down I put it it's on the other
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interesting name. Poly poly poly
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poly. I think that Paul and so
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Trudeau comes in in doubt, you
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apology in front of Parliament,
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Unknown: It was the personal
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Minister to invite President
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House of Commons. It was his
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sure it was a diplomatic
success. It was his personal

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responsibility to continue to
lead the government that has the

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security, intelligence and
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have and should have vetted all
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recognized. Yet this Prime
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monumental, unprecedented and
global shame to unfold in this

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chamber. Will he take personal
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and personally apologize on
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Right Honorable Prime Minister.

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On behalf of all of us in this
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apologies, place on Friday, and
to President Solinsky and the

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Ukrainian delegation for the
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all of us who were present to
have unknowingly recognized this

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individual was a terrible
mistake and a violation of the

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memory of those who suffered
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Nazi regime.

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Adam Curry: Oh, Canada,

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John C Dvorak: I love you. So.
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one more go around. This is
obviously question time they do

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this in England, they do it in
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up and to say to ask, receiving
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he gets nothing. And I could
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But this will be the final clip
because it's just the ends

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pretty much ends here with
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everybody not himself

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Unknown: out of the leader of
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Did the Prime Minister's
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or diplomatic officials that the
names of the people that the

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Prime Minister allowed within
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Right Honorable Prime Minister.

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Mr. Speaker, the privilege and
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parliamentarians are sacrosanct,
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opposition would be suggesting
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should be vetted by the
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actually a grievous attack on
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parliamentarians. The leader of
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anyone wants our intelligence
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Adam Curry: The Honorable leader
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there's one thing for sure, is
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Indian diplomat who claimed that
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G 20 meeting was full of
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John C Dvorak: about this? No, I
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Adam Curry: Yeah, no, it totally
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thing that was fun. One of the
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the Liberal Party, jumped up and
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following motion, that
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orders, special order or usual
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recognition made by the Speaker
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present in the galleries. During
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by His Excellency, bloody Mirza
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Adam Curry: they want it they
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John C Dvorak: erased by the
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that she did this course it is.

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Adam Curry: That's insane. Oh,
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it. Now what isn't happening?
What should happen from this and

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you know, the Simon Wiesenthal
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over Twitter X. You know, like,
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this is no good. I mean, I think
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they need to go a step further.
Where's the AES off brigade?

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This is the moment to bring it
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Nazi sentiment over there.
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their body and are very much in
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John C Dvorak: Oh, slow down to
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Adam Curry: let's go to 60
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Unknown: The US has spent just
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Adam Curry: I think it's more
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that maybe just the military
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Adam Curry: A trillion? Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: I believe it's I
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Adam Curry: That's new to me.
I've heard 150 billion I've

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heard. But a trillion Nah, no, I

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John C Dvorak: think is what I
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pretty sure I could be I mean,
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Adam Curry: not what point it's
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billion. She's saying 40
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this 1000 billion? That's a lot.
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John C Dvorak: with the nutmeg.
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it's a fluctuating number that
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on. The point is, if somebody
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Rand Paul, yeah, they say now we
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Adam Curry: We got it. Well,
hey, AI, check it out. Don't

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worry, we're gonna figure it all
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Unknown: That's equivalent to
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budget. European countries
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30 billion American rocket
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into Russian occupied Ukraine.
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system is shielding millions of
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strikes. American taxpayers are
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weapons. Oh, we discovered the
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fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers
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Ukraine's first responders, all
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invasion shrank Ukraine's
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were surprised to find that to
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government is subsidizing small
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economy since the invasion
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Adam Curry: So I consider this
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whole phony baloney setup that
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minutes. So that's the CIA
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believe Seymour Hersh and I have
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internal conflict or a conflict
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Intelligence Agency. We talked
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saying everyone's dead. There's
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war. Just it's over. It's
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into far. You got your money,
you got your 143 whatever it is

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billion stop. And of course,
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this is a hit piece. That may be
that may become more clear in

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Unknown: And you can see it
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Adam Curry: Natural keys. Are
you starting to get you're

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starting to get the idea? John
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Unknown: This is your moment.
The late senator is revered in

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Ukraine, because he pushed the
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While in Kyiv, we learned that
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colleagues were also in town,
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Warren and Richard Blumenthal,
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Adam Curry: It's a cool takedown
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Republicans, which is also
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are evil.

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Unknown: They don't normally
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They're some of the staunchest
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They're on track To break the
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they could possibly lose is if
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Ukraine's independence day
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fifth of the country remains
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People ask me, is it worth it?
Here's what we've gotten for our

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investment. We haven't lost one
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combat power of the Russian army
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died in that endeavor. This is a
great deal for America when

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Adam Curry: he says not one of
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one of the senators, obviously,
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Unknown: said that it's the best
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Since we help Churchill stand up
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John C Dvorak: By the way, the
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fascinating.

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Adam Curry: People have no
knowledge of history. You see,

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John C Dvorak: was it was it
besides that? I mean, this the

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illogic of Well, we were running
a war, but we haven't lost any

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soldiers. So that's great. As as
people are dying by the hundreds

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Adam Curry: But the Ukrainians,
they don't count. See, it's a

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John C Dvorak: it's a very
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It's basically sick.

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Adam Curry: Yes, I agree.

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Unknown: We have to have
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we're spending are actually
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nation. All of that is
important. But that's

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Adam Curry: what we just heard
that they're not they're not

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being spent in defense of the
nation. They're being spent to

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keep small businesses afloat.
All kinds of other stuff,

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Unknown: but that's why we're
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officials told us there have
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American weapons being diverted.
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Adam Curry: but then CBS 60
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Unknown: But Ukraine is a young
democracy with a history of

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corruption. According to the
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International, it's ranked the
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Europe, only Russia scores
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Ukrainians to report misuse of
assistance from USAID saw a

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tenfold increase when these
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country earlier this year.
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investigating for criminal cases
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170. Ukrainian government
officials, including high

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ranking military officers have
been charged in corruption cases

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so far this year, for crimes
like embezzlement and accepting

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bribes. Ukraine is losing us
weapons on the battlefield. But

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Lieutenant shoshan told us
that's the only way they're

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losing them. Has anything gone
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case like this.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Okay. So
I think this is the setup. This

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is a bit of a hit piece. It's
like no, no, you guys are over

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there. The unit party this
corruption. You know, this is

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what the you know, we're also
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Apparently, we can't fund our
own economy. Now this is what

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gets people riled up and people
get mad about this stuff. So it

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feels to me like CBS CIA
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John C Dvorak: does have a funny
feeling because that's where he

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is. And that's why the Lindsey
Graham thing triggered me

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because it's like, why would you
put that in there in the first

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place? You you make your you
bring it this is a common way of

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doing it. You bring in a person
who acts despicable, which is

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exactly what he did. Yeah. And
and present him out. Hey, look

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at this. And then so it gets
everybody to despise him.

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thing to say what he did what he

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Adam Curry: and he's, he's
already so disposable.

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John C Dvorak: Yes, very
despised, disposable,

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disposable.

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Adam Curry: So then more CBS

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John C Dvorak: you do that.
Anyway, the point is, you do

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that on purpose. Yes.

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Adam Curry: Oh, completely.
Towards the kids would say 100%.

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So now we go to CBS Face the
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a little more

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Unknown: Ukrainian president
Zelensky and his wife Elena

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visited Washington last week to
press the case for more US

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assistance in Ukraine's fight
against the Russian invasion. We

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spoke with the First Lady during
their visit with the aid of

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Ukrainian government
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her about what life is like for
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Adam Curry: By the way, I don't
think Margaret Brennan, who's

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you know, the news model in this
case, I don't think she's really

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aware that she's helping the
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Unknown: greenskin today,
unfortunately, only 1/3 of

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Ukrainian children can now
attend schools Mr. bhootish call

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on this because our schools have
to decide It's safe to be

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located in safe areas. She does
eat and falls with bomb

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shelters, and my foundation
continuous fundraising

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John C Dvorak: staff again,
another little tidbit here in

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terms of the very I'm going to
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So if you're going to use these
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then compound it with the with
the Margaret Brennan show. There

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are a lot of different people
that you can have do the

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translation. Yes, but they have
some sad sack. Come on with this

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pathetic voice. You don't need
that you can have an uptempo

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lifting, you know, a kind of a
positive spirited person doing

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the translations as someone who
sounds like she's gonna start to

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cry in a second. That's done for
another that's also done

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purposefully. Can we find a
translator hay bale? Can we find

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a translator? Sounds so sad.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. And it's so I
think when you air these these

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answers, but I think people at
home just Joe Oh, let me say at

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six pack, sent home going
through our school suck. What?

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She's not wearing, you know,
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You know, she's she's, she's
she's dressed nicely. She's you

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know, she's she was in vogue.
This is him. This is shades of

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dip like the Assad woman. Yeah,
yeah. The Assad fee which they

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also took down so empty, like,
and then it's her foundation.

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giving money to your foundation.

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the country, to the military. I

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can even kind of see the
emergency services. But now we

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got to give to your foundation.
What is this? Why it makes no

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John C Dvorak: Clinton
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Unknown: Our schools have to be
safe, safe to be located in safe

451
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areas. And we need schools with
bomb shelters, and my foundation

452
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continuous fundraising resources
of less to ensure that we have

453
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comfortable bomb shelters in all
Ukrainian schools are

454
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Adam Curry: comfortable bomb
shelters. When it comfortable

455
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bomb shelters, you know, our
kids need to be comfortable.

456
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Well, the

457
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Unknown: rest of Ukrainian
children two thirds continue. Go

458
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into school online. Because they
live in the frontline areas.

459
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Many children left Ukraine they
live abroad, and they call it

460
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when children were leaving
Ukraine.

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Adam Curry: By the way this is
that there's a mistake here that

462
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they're making or it's
purposeful. Well, we kept

463
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:46,950
hearing was the Russians
kidnapped 10s of 1000s of

464
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children. The Russians kidnapped
him now we're hearing something

465
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else.

466
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John C Dvorak: Well, there was
wait. Let's take the side the

467
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side of the narrative, if you
must. There was a lot of

468
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complaining about the Russians
kidnapping the kids out of the

469
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Donbass in that area. But the
other kids, there's still a

470
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shitload and probably more kids
that like fled to in the early

471
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days fled to Germany.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, all those
places. Yeah.

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John C Dvorak: So I don't think
it's inaccurate. Most

474
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:19,920
something's

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Adam Curry: off about this whole
interview.

476
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Unknown: Frontline areas. Many
children left Ukraine they live

477
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abroad.

478
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Adam Curry: That's your
frontline, the frontline areas

479
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that's the Donbass region, many
of them live abroad. What

480
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:35,070
happened to the kidnapped by
Russia narrative it should be in

481
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here if it wasn't anti Russia,
if

482
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John C Dvorak: they're gonna
talk about if she's gonna drop

483
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the front line. There's no kids
around any of that area

484
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Unknown: and they collude. When
children were leaving Ukraine.

485
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Sometimes they could undertake
the documents with them and left

486
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everything behind the wall that
is white, both children and

487
00:28:56,940 --> 00:29:05,820
teachers require laptops, iPads
to continue iPads education and

488
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:09,240
we receive a lot of support
including from our American

489
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,590
partners. What

490
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,000
Adam Curry: they need iPads,

491
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,430
John C Dvorak: nobody needs an
iPad,

492
00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:18,060
Adam Curry: they need iPads.
Send your money to my

493
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:24,540
foundation, the kids need iPads.
Say and what anyway, Face the

494
00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:30,030
Nation then put this in because
the last bit we're sending is

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the tactical missiles. The ones
that have some reach

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Unknown: we go now to Arizona
Democratic Senator Mark Kelly he

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is in Austin, Texas double
whammy this morning. CBS has

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00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:44,760
confirmed that President Biden
in his meeting with President

499
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Zelensky said he would provide
Ukraine with attack homes these

500
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,450
are these longer range surface
to surface missile systems that

501
00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:54,540
would allow them to hit behind
Russian lines. The Ukrainians

502
00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:59,370
have been asking for months for
these systems. Whether it was

503
00:29:59,370 --> 00:30:04,350
the F six As the attack comes
now Are you frustrated at how

504
00:30:04,350 --> 00:30:08,910
long leading the witness it
takes for approval to happen for

505
00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:09,900
these systems?

506
00:30:10,530 --> 00:30:13,410
Yeah, this conflict been going
on for a year and a half now.

507
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And in the beginning we provided
artillery ammunition eventually

508
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:22,620
high Mars F six teams are not
like other weapons systems

509
00:30:22,650 --> 00:30:24,930
they're complicated you have to
train pilots you have to train

510
00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:29,100
maintainers I worked with the
administration on that we've

511
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,890
gotten them cluster weapons now
Yeah, attack comes is an

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additional capability. There
were some issues we had to work

513
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through. They've been you know
stressing the need for this over

514
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over a period of time now and
we're at the point that we're

515
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going to provide them this
capability and I think it's

516
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going to be helpful

517
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what restriction should there be
you know, why the apprehension

518
00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:51,900
for so long

519
00:30:52,020 --> 00:30:55,470
well I'm an artillery shell goes
about 80 miles so to attack them

520
00:30:55,500 --> 00:31:01,140
missile goes about 190 miles so
there was concern where and

521
00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:04,860
against what targets would they
use them we don't want this to

522
00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:08,250
escalate but we're at the spot
right now where they needed to

523
00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:13,290
do it capability to maintain
some more progress the progress

524
00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:16,560
on this counter offensive it's
been good you know, I talked to

525
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Ukrainian commanders there are
things that are you know,

526
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starting to provide some you
know, problems but we're making

527
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progress there.

528
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Adam Curry: What does that mean?
I think they set him up all

529
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right, you're you're in charge
of that so whatever happens with

530
00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:35,520
those attack comes with a cool
name. acronym but attackers

531
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whatever happens yeah, some
problems but it's okay now,

532
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,670
meanwhile, reports that 10,000
Ukrainian soldiers have

533
00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:47,610
surrendered to the Russians
using the special Volga

534
00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:53,850
frequency which is 149.2
megahertz, which you can you can

535
00:31:53,850 --> 00:31:58,020
basically get on your, on your
hands but what are the what are

536
00:31:58,020 --> 00:32:01,530
those $25 radios we still be
used to start we started off

537
00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:03,840
with you have one in your desk
drawer.

538
00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:07,350
John C Dvorak: I have one I have
a couple of laying around.

539
00:32:07,949 --> 00:32:12,149
Adam Curry: What's the cheapo
called again? named my fan I

540
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:14,309
think her bio bio Feng Bao

541
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John C Dvorak: Bao for Chinese,
Chinese. And they then they're

542
00:32:18,990 --> 00:32:23,400
good. Yeah. Bao Fang. Yeah,
follow Fang. They the batteries

543
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,650
last forever. I don't know how
that works.

544
00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:29,880
Adam Curry: So now they have a
frequency 149.2 megahertz you

545
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:35,220
just call and say Hey, want to
surrender? It's over,

546
00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:38,130
John C Dvorak: probably using
that particular gear. And of

547
00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:38,730
course,

548
00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:46,290
Adam Curry: of course. Now I'm
with Hersh. I really think that

549
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:52,830
it's so it may go on forever.
But only as a demilitarized zone

550
00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:56,160
and just a bunch of posturing
and you know no real fighting. I

551
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,820
just don't think there's
fighting going on. Doesn't I

552
00:32:59,820 --> 00:33:03,930
mean have you seen any recent
footage of fighting and and wins

553
00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:07,320
or losses or anything? No, you
don't we're not seeing that

554
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:07,830
anymore.

555
00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:13,350
John C Dvorak: It didn't see
much fighting to begin with. No.

556
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:18,000
Adam Curry: Well, no, we never
like well, I mean, on my

557
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,970
military contact, I have the I
must have 50 videos of Abrams

558
00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:28,020
tanks all these tanks getting
blown up. Just it's just sitting

559
00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:32,850
ducks drone footage of Abrams
tanks getting droned. I mean,

560
00:33:32,850 --> 00:33:39,480
none of this seems to have
worked very well at all. So and

561
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,820
of course this report which we
didn't we I had it but I have a

562
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semi clip from the American
Journal. It's a poor read, but

563
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at least we can laugh about it.

564
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Unknown: Zelinsky asks Marina
Abramovich to be ambassador for

565
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Ukraine. Now apparently this
story was removed from the

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telegraph but that's where it
was originally posted. They've

567
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since scrubbed the internet of
it we've had to go to Wayback

568
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:10,470
Machine version, the archive to
get it here. Volodymyr Zelensky,

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00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:14,910
has asked Marina Abramovich the,
quote performance artists to be

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an ambassador for Ukraine. Miss
Abramovich, a fierce critic of

571
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Vladimir Putin's illegal
invasion, said the Ukrainian

572
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president had asked her for help
in rebuilding schools or

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rebuilding schools.

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Adam Curry: So Marina Abramovich
and who herself has claimed that

575
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:37,440
Zelinsky wants her to be an
ambassador to the children not

576
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,090
like an official ambassador to
think this guy gets wrong. And

577
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most people immediately
associate her with the spirit

578
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cooking and the

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John C Dvorak: lie Yes,

580
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Adam Curry: the blood stuff.

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John C Dvorak: No, I have not
straightened out this store. I

582
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mean, I've seen references to it
but I'm glad you picked up on it

583
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and you could just Yes, that's
where I that's who that is the

584
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spirit cooking woman where you
throw bunch of did guts on your

585
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,750
wall or something? Well well
when you eat it was it was

586
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Adam Curry: interesting about
her and I want to remind

587
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:14,820
everybody she ties back directly
to the Podesta clan.

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John C Dvorak: No she did that
she goes to it yes that's where

589
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:19,530
it clean esta and

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Adam Curry: the Clintons. Yeah,
so this cannot be coincidental

591
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:29,700
or you know she it seems totally
like her huge ego like yeah I'm

592
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:32,520
a part of this I'm paying the
guys let me in on the scam

593
00:35:35,070 --> 00:35:37,950
John C Dvorak: do some sketchy
about her even be mentioned

594
00:35:37,950 --> 00:35:40,500
whether this is any of this is
even true. It could all be a

595
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:46,320
setup. Like I'm you know that
transgender guy dude

596
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,180
Adam Curry: look wired who got
fired?

597
00:35:48,990 --> 00:35:51,210
John C Dvorak: I didn't never. I
had never believed that you've

598
00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:52,050
ever worked there?

599
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,830
Adam Curry: He ever know whoever
whatever, whatever. Yeah, no, I

600
00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:57,630
don't either. Now that

601
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John C Dvorak: this, this whole
thing seems like a like bull

602
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,100
crap from the get go. Yeah.

603
00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:05,670
Adam Curry: So I can take us
from there. Unless you have

604
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:08,400
anything else on Ukraine. I
think I think now I'm got it for

605
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,570
today. I can take us to what's
going on with migration around

606
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the world. But

607
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John C Dvorak: I do have one
little thing I wanted to get out

608
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:19,020
of the way and Ukraine. Sure.
And this was the this mostly

609
00:36:19,020 --> 00:36:22,620
about the Russians. And you have
to do a search because it's from

610
00:36:22,650 --> 00:36:28,440
two or three shows ago on on the
Cubans, supposedly, that the

611
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,180
Russians are kidnapping and
forcing him to soldier down to

612
00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:35,070
fight in the war. Have you heard
this one?

613
00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:40,410
Adam Curry: No, and I'm trying
to find it will be under Cuban.

614
00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:44,940
It'd be oh my goodness. Do you
have like a whole bunch of clips

615
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:47,370
here? Oh, no. I see. Here we go.
Here we go.

616
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Unknown: Cuban authorities have
uncovered an international human

617
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trafficking ring. The victims
are being sent overseas to fight

618
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for Russia in the war against
Ukraine. That's according to a

619
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statement by Cuban authorities
released on Monday. Cuba's

620
00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:04,890
Foreign Ministry said Cuba is
not part of the war in Ukraine

621
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and Cuba will act against human
trafficking aimed at recruiting

622
00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:13,110
Cubans as mercenaries Cuban
state run media at this at the

623
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ministerial Deli. The

624
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:17,220
Interior Ministry detected and
is working on the neutralization

625
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and dismantling of a human
trafficking network.

626
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Cuba said it had already begun
prosecuting cases in which its

627
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citizens had been coerced into
fighting in Ukraine. A Cuban

628
00:37:27,390 --> 00:37:29,160
resident gave his take on the
matter.

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Cuba is against all illegal
human trafficking. People said

630
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it was to send them to war in
Ukraine. The Cuban revolution is

631
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against that.

632
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And if true, this could mean
Russia is having trouble

633
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recruiting people from its own
citizens. But why Cuba, Russia

634
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,690
has longstanding political ties
with communist Cuba and Cuban

635
00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:52,560
citizens often migrate to Russia
for economic opportunities.

636
00:37:52,740 --> 00:37:55,950
Russia is also looking elsewhere
for help in its war against

637
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Ukraine. On Monday, US National
Security Council spokesperson

638
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,080
Adrienne Watson said North Korea
leader Kim Jong Hoon and Russian

639
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,510
President Vladimir Putin could
be planning to

640
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:12,480
clearly Russia running short of
ammunition right now and having

641
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,700
to go to North Korea. Patricia
Lewis,

642
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,640
the head of the International
Security Program at the think

643
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,020
tank Chatham House explained
that North Korea more than just

644
00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:22,560
currency.

645
00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:28,200
Obviously, it would like real
high tech, missile technology,

646
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:34,800
etc. It may also want a show of
strength with Russia such as

647
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,310
military exercises, naval
exercises and so on that may be

648
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part of the discussions.

649
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Adam Curry: All of these people
all of these think tanks, these

650
00:38:42,869 --> 00:38:47,069
NGOs they're all in on the game.
They're all getting paid for

651
00:38:47,069 --> 00:38:51,359
participating in this in this
play. What do you think the

652
00:38:51,389 --> 00:38:53,069
significance of this was that
you

653
00:38:53,970 --> 00:38:56,520
John C Dvorak: did something
very phony about it? Yeah. To

654
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:02,760
incorporate the the North Korea,
Putin Kim meeting, that sort of

655
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,060
thing that always seemed like
bull crap. And the fact that

656
00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:09,660
they Oh, we have to go to North
Korea for high tech weaponry why

657
00:39:09,690 --> 00:39:12,930
right? This is like does this
make sense? Now anyone with a

658
00:39:12,930 --> 00:39:14,070
normal brain it's

659
00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:17,550
Adam Curry: the same Well, it's
the same type of misinformation

660
00:39:17,550 --> 00:39:22,140
disinformation that the CIA
brought in with MI six I'm sure

661
00:39:22,410 --> 00:39:26,160
there is Chatham House Yeah,
that Putin was suffering from

662
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,710
cancer Parkinson's He's almost
dead.

663
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, a big list.
Yeah.

664
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Adam Curry: What happened to
that? American news media what

665
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:36,660
happened to that he's Oh, look
at his head it's all puffy

666
00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:39,990
because he's taken cancer meds
he's gonna die. No.

667
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:42,360
John C Dvorak: So this seemed to
be part of the narrative that

668
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Oh, Russia is hard up forgetting
people. They're all leaving the

669
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country and nobody wants to
fight for Putin. And so he's got

670
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to involve himself with the word
human trafficking.

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Adam Curry: This is key

672
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John C Dvorak: it's it's a make
it look bad, obviously. And

673
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Cubans Did you know these dumb
Cubans I guess, John and how

674
00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:05,640
they got wrapped up into there
was a bunch of women living in

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00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,860
Russia that shows you if you
move to Russia, you're gonna

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get, you know, grabbed and
thrown in

677
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Adam Curry: rousted yeah Ross
Ross did.

678
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John C Dvorak: I mean this this
is unbelievable how how extreme

679
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this this storyline you

680
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Adam Curry: have a kicker here
14 Second kicker Yes, but it is

681
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Unknown: National Security
Adviser Jake Sullivan on Tuesday

682
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:30,210
said that it says a lot that
Russia is trying to obtain

683
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weapons from North Korea and
September 2023, especially for a

684
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war that Russia said would be
over in a week

685
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Adam Curry: now as this
propaganda.

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John C Dvorak: It's just a
problem. But as such dubious

687
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probably does anybody believe
that Russia who you know who

688
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,330
just came shore to go into the
moon and still is running the

689
00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:58,110
Soyuz spacecraft the only way we
can get to our own space station

690
00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:01,170
is using this Russian devices
that once in a while SpaceX can

691
00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:07,260
send somebody up that they have
to go to North Korea the crazy

692
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:12,270
North Korea to bite to get
weapon and come mine is crazy to

693
00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:14,010
even think that but they're
pushing it.

694
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:17,100
Adam Curry: That means they're
desperate.

695
00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:21,600
John C Dvorak: Desperation is
and Jake Sullivan side of the

696
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,260
equation. Oh

697
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Adam Curry: man. I didn't clip
it. But Anthony Blinken was at

698
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:31,890
some White House function. And
he plays blues guitar on stage

699
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:38,130
does a blues song. Oh my god.
Yeah, he's like it and it's not

700
00:41:38,130 --> 00:41:39,900
bad after I'll give him that

701
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:42,030
John C Dvorak: but I'm sure he
will be a lot of people can play

702
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:43,260
blues guitar. Yeah.

703
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:49,710
Adam Curry: Got the load. Amir's
more bullets down, down, down,

704
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,490
down. Boy, he shooting them all
down. That Putin ain't looking

705
00:41:53,490 --> 00:42:01,800
so good. No more. Yeah. So the
human trafficking angle is being

706
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:08,130
used over us around the world
and a paper surfaced a paper

707
00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:15,870
from 2000 from the United
Nations. And it even the, what

708
00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:21,900
is the big the big conspiracy
theory that Tucker Carlson,

709
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,210
everybody in Europe? You know,
Jews will not replace us? Do you

710
00:42:27,210 --> 00:42:30,180
know that this is called right?
The replacement theory?

711
00:42:30,810 --> 00:42:34,410
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the one
we're Mirko got an award for

712
00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:34,740
being

713
00:42:35,850 --> 00:42:38,640
Adam Curry: that's the colleague
colleague award. But the

714
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,420
replacement theory has been
called anti semitic, You're

715
00:42:42,420 --> 00:42:47,880
horrible. You know, this is not
true. It's it's all conspiracy

716
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:53,580
theory. Well, this paper is
titled, replacement migration.

717
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:59,190
Is it a solution to declining
and ageing populations. And it's

718
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a very extensive paper from the
United Nations from 2001. And

719
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I'll just give you the executive
summary, I'll just read this.

720
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Yeah, because they go through
all of this. The new challenges

721
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being brought about by declining
and aging populations will

722
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require objective, thorough and
comprehensive reassessments of

723
00:43:18,210 --> 00:43:21,660
many established economic,
social and political policies

724
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and programs. Such reassessments
will need to incorporate a long

725
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:29,250
term perspective, critical
issues to be addressed in those

726
00:43:29,250 --> 00:43:33,390
reassessments will include a the
appropriate ages for retirement.

727
00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:36,510
Remember, this is from 2001.
What have we seen in Europe,

728
00:43:37,110 --> 00:43:42,240
retirement age is being moved.
Be the levels types and nature

729
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,030
of retirement and health care
benefits for the elderly?

730
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:50,280
France? Hello. What were they
complaining about? health care

731
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,980
benefits UK health care benefits
national health care system. See

732
00:43:56,190 --> 00:44:01,170
the labor force participation,
which is low right now labor

733
00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:05,340
participation is low. That's why
there's low unemployment. But it

734
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doesn't mean that there's not
people who are out of work, they

735
00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:12,270
just given up and be the
assessed amount of contributions

736
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from workers and employers to
support retirement and health

737
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,660
care benefits for the
increasingly elder population.

738
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Always a big discussion in our
own country and II policies and

739
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:26,250
programs relating to the
international migration, in

740
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particular replacement migration
and the integration of large

741
00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:34,260
numbers of recent migrants and
their descendants. They are

742
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executing a plan globally. It's
global. It's here, it's all over

743
00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:45,420
Europe. And they're and they
have no intention of stopping it

744
00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:51,270
whatsoever. This is way be of
way above Biden above McCrone.

745
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:55,650
This is your this is your great
reset from the United Nations.

746
00:44:55,650 --> 00:44:59,760
This is why you have the una the
United Nations Migration Agency

747
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,240
We're busing people from South
America giving him cell phones

748
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:08,910
down there giving him credit
debit cards. Yeah, what we see

749
00:45:08,910 --> 00:45:13,320
is oh, it's the beast train bull
crap. This is, this is

750
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,200
purposeful. And it goes right
back to the former New York

751
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,160
banker. America wins because our
population is growing. But it's

752
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,190
not growing because we're making
children is growing because we

753
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:24,420
have open borders.

754
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John C Dvorak: Yep. Well, that
brings us to Greg Abbott in

755
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:28,350
Texas.

756
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Adam Curry: Okay, I knew this is
one of those shows where we

757
00:45:31,290 --> 00:45:33,480
integrate, I will hit he

758
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,030
John C Dvorak: goes to New York
of all places. What is Greg

759
00:45:36,030 --> 00:45:38,100
Abbott doing in New York, and
let's find out.

760
00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:40,650
Unknown: I'm here in New York
City right outside of Roosevelt

761
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:44,220
Hotel. It's been the city's
Intake Center for immigrants.

762
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And while I was standing here, a
man from Senegal approached me

763
00:45:47,730 --> 00:45:51,030
and asked me where he needed to
go. So we talked to some workers

764
00:45:51,570 --> 00:45:54,090
at this entrance, and they
pointed the man in this

765
00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:57,840
direction to an entrance over
here. New York City continues to

766
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,110
deal with this immigration
crisis. And Governor Abbott says

767
00:46:01,110 --> 00:46:05,040
that's just a fraction of what
Texas sees on a daily basis.

768
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:09,930
We have in any one particular
location 1000s of people

769
00:46:10,110 --> 00:46:13,470
crossing the border in a mad

770
00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:17,760
rush type of way. Texas Governor
Greg Abbott was in New York City

771
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,970
on Wednesday, he spoke at the
Manhattan Institute about the

772
00:46:20,970 --> 00:46:24,690
nation's border crisis. And he
shared some surprising numbers

773
00:46:24,690 --> 00:46:27,900
regarding the illegal immigrants
currently in New York City.

774
00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:30,510
How many migrants do you have
here? 120,000, something like

775
00:46:30,510 --> 00:46:38,310
that. Texas, has bussed 15,800
to New York. Are these other

776
00:46:38,310 --> 00:46:40,830
people come from the Biden
administration?

777
00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:46,200
Adam Curry: Yes. And Abbott's in
on it. They're all in it knows

778
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,440
that this is a global movement.
This is not just a Biden

779
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,280
administration goes way above
that. But okay, it's his job

780
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,250
he's playing. He's going to New
York. Get on Broadway. Come on,

781
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Greg.

782
00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:00,630
John C Dvorak: You do what you
do or Republican? Yeah, you

783
00:47:00,630 --> 00:47:02,730
blame the Democrats course. Of
course,

784
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,930
Adam Curry: just what you do.
Yeah.

785
00:47:04,170 --> 00:47:07,200
Unknown: Fabin explain that
Texas has deployed the National

786
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,470
Guard and the Texas Department
of Public Safety to help deal

787
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:13,410
with the crisis. And the
National Guard has been setting

788
00:47:13,410 --> 00:47:14,970
up miles of razor wire

789
00:47:14,970 --> 00:47:19,800
along the US Mexico border. The
Biden administration, had their

790
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,170
border patrol, go in and cut
that razor wire that we put up,

791
00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:31,560
pull it open. And there was an
onrush of 1000s of illegal

792
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,110
immigrants pouring into the
country.

793
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And also said Texas is now
building border barriers between

794
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,180
Texas and New Mexico to stop
illegal immigrants from crossing

795
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:44,400
into El Paso never forget,

796
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,710
it was just three years ago, we
had the lowest number of border

797
00:47:49,710 --> 00:47:54,750
crossings in 40 years. It's kind
of hard for people to understand

798
00:47:54,750 --> 00:47:58,440
or remember, but it proves this
and that is the President of the

799
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,250
United States can have an
outsized impact on illegal

800
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immigration across the border.

801
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:08,070
And last week, over 8600 people
crossed the US Mexico border in

802
00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:11,700
a 24 hour period, according to
an official from the Department

803
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:15,750
of Homeland Security. That's up
from about 3500 per day after

804
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:19,740
title 42 ended in May. And
Abbott said the solution is for

805
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:23,340
the Biden team to just follow
the laws already in place not

806
00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:24,300
have to pass new

807
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:30,330
laws in force, the current laws
on the books until that time

808
00:48:30,330 --> 00:48:36,000
comes. Texas is going to
continue to use every tool that

809
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,020
we can to secure the border. The
best that we can.

810
00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:42,270
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's bull
crap. They're not securing

811
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:46,980
anything. They're not. They're
just not there. They're there in

812
00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:51,030
Fredericksburg. It's all as
rampant now. It's rampant.

813
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,480
There's no stopping anybody.
They're doing exactly what

814
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,230
they're told to do. Although
there's all kinds of cell phone

815
00:48:58,230 --> 00:49:03,240
video now of agents, speaking up
speaking out against their,

816
00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:07,620
their commanding officers. It's
unintelligible it's really not

817
00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:11,910
usable for the show, even with
the Adobe product, but they're

818
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:15,300
starting to go, Hey, hold on a
second. This is this is not

819
00:49:15,330 --> 00:49:20,670
we're we're not abiding to our
our laws, our constitutional

820
00:49:20,850 --> 00:49:24,240
John C Dvorak: duty and point
that made about the laws brings

821
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,390
up to two things. I didn't I
don't have any clips from the

822
00:49:27,390 --> 00:49:32,880
debates because it's a waste of
time. But anybody who brings up

823
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:39,540
the idea of immigration reform
is part of the of the scam. Yes.

824
00:49:40,590 --> 00:49:41,310
Adam Curry: Exactly.

825
00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:45,000
John C Dvorak: Because the fact
is, we would put Abbot said it

826
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,810
whether you meant to say it or
not. He's right. If you enforce

827
00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:53,850
the laws we already have, and
this applies to everything from

828
00:49:53,850 --> 00:49:59,190
shoplifting to immigration and
everything in between. You don't

829
00:49:59,190 --> 00:50:03,630
have a problem. No, it's just
law enforcement that the issue

830
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:06,810
is is law enforcement itself.
But if you start talking about

831
00:50:06,810 --> 00:50:11,400
oh, we need immigration reform.
No, we don't. That's a lie. And

832
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,490
anyone who says that Nikki Haley
being the top on that list,

833
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,970
Adam Curry: oh my goodness. I'm
so disappointed in her. She is

834
00:50:17,970 --> 00:50:18,270
just

835
00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:21,240
John C Dvorak: the worst. She is
the worst

836
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:24,300
Adam Curry: horrible. Let's go
to CBS Face the Nation. Margaret

837
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:27,180
Brennan talking to a Texas
representative.

838
00:50:27,210 --> 00:50:29,340
Unknown: We turn now to Texas
Republican Congressman Tony

839
00:50:29,340 --> 00:50:33,420
Gonzales, who joins us from San
Antonio this morning. I San

840
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:35,490
Adam Curry: Antonio, by the way
Riverwalk you've ever been to

841
00:50:35,490 --> 00:50:38,820
San Antonio ever been to the
Riverwalk? Oh yeah. Well, you

842
00:50:38,820 --> 00:50:42,450
can't go there anymore. Why not?
It's just filled with people

843
00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:45,900
sleeping migrants. They
literally jump

844
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,650
John C Dvorak: cozy next to the
river and the fireflies. No, no,

845
00:50:49,650 --> 00:50:53,490
they lighting songs in the
sombreros?

846
00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:56,760
Adam Curry: No, it's not. It's
not sombreros. It's not

847
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,410
Mexicans. It's, it's from all
over the world. They're just

848
00:51:01,410 --> 00:51:04,950
being dumped on the buses. Boom,
dump them right there. And then

849
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:05,490
off you go

850
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,010
Unknown: this morning,
Congressman, a lot to get to

851
00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:11,280
with you. Well, if there is a
shutdown, are the Border Patrol

852
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,460
agents in your district prepared
to show up to work?

853
00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:16,680
Adam Curry: See, this isn't the
next talking point, oh, more

854
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,580
scripts at a

855
00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:21,600
Unknown: time of migrant? Spike
and not get paid spike? You

856
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,510
know, that's, that's the ugly
part of a shutdown is you're

857
00:51:24,510 --> 00:51:27,570
gonna have you're gonna have
real people get hurt. But right

858
00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:30,750
now, border patrol agents are
showing up to operate in

859
00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:33,750
processing centers. They're not
out in the field. So they're not

860
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:36,150
really doing their jobs, and
they haven't been doing their

861
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:39,300
jobs. And many, many agents have
told me you know what, Tony?

862
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:42,360
Right now, I mean, give you
example, in El Paso, the

863
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:45,930
facility 200 Border Patrol
agents are in that soft sided

864
00:51:45,930 --> 00:51:49,050
facility, taking care of
migrants, meaning they're not

865
00:51:49,050 --> 00:51:52,830
out in the field, protecting
America from bad actors. So in

866
00:51:52,830 --> 00:51:55,650
many cases, they might as well
already be shut down.

867
00:51:56,070 --> 00:51:57,870
Adam Curry: Yes, you could hear
even go What do you mean, that's

868
00:51:57,870 --> 00:52:00,330
their job. We mean, they're not
doing their job. That is their

869
00:52:00,330 --> 00:52:01,290
job. Who is

870
00:52:01,290 --> 00:52:02,160
Unknown: preventing that?

871
00:52:02,190 --> 00:52:04,320
The problem is, is Joe Biden's
failed

872
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:07,860
Adam Curry: their failed
immigration policies,

873
00:52:07,890 --> 00:52:10,950
Unknown: we see the images, we
hear the stories, but we never

874
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:13,890
hear solutions. So let's, let's
talk some solutions. One of

875
00:52:13,890 --> 00:52:16,740
those is I've been pushing very
hard and many of my colleagues

876
00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:20,070
to end catch and release I have
an amendment in that homeland

877
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:22,920
bill that ends catch and
release. Another one is, once

878
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,500
again, the Border Patrol agents,
they're they're out of the game.

879
00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:28,470
The the folks that are doing the
real work are the sheriffs and

880
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:31,770
the deputies. And there's a
program called stone stone

881
00:52:31,770 --> 00:52:35,310
garden. And and there's a $10
million upgrade for that this

882
00:52:35,340 --> 00:52:38,190
helps with manpower and
equipment to help fight the

883
00:52:38,190 --> 00:52:40,890
border crisis. But the third
piece, which I'd argue is the

884
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:44,220
most important is repatriation
flights. And when I met with

885
00:52:44,220 --> 00:52:47,190
Secretary Mayorkas earlier this
week, that's what I asked him

886
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:50,460
for repatriation flights,
meaning if somebody does not

887
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:53,550
qualify for asylum, you don't
bus them to New York, you don't

888
00:52:53,550 --> 00:52:56,730
send them to LA, you don't let
them go other places, you send

889
00:52:56,730 --> 00:52:58,170
them back to their country of
origin.

890
00:52:58,590 --> 00:53:00,900
Adam Curry: The thing that's
wrong with this guy is you don't

891
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:04,740
need this. It's not an issue of
law. That's the thing. It's

892
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:09,510
like, you're you're you're just
flailing in the wind. It's an

893
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:14,640
it's a matter of will the
agencies do their job and has

894
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,360
nothing to do with what's in the
law. This is all and it's all

895
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,670
just political. Oh, it's the
Biden administration. Of course.

896
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,870
CNN take Well,

897
00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:24,000
Unknown: this morning. There's a
new agreement between Mexico and

898
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,240
the US to deport migrants at
border cities back home to their

899
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:29,610
countries. It's part of an
effort to fight the massive

900
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:32,820
surge in illegal crossings in
recent weeks. Mexican officials

901
00:53:32,820 --> 00:53:35,370
have also agreed to prevent
migrants from using railways to

902
00:53:35,370 --> 00:53:38,880
reach the border. This agreement
comes as Texas border towns are

903
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,060
feeling the weight of the crisis
with the mayor of El Paso saying

904
00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:45,270
the city is at its breaking
point soon. It's Rosa Flores

905
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,570
joins us live from Houston.
Rosa, I was reading your

906
00:53:48,570 --> 00:53:50,940
reporting throughout the course
of the weekend. There's a ton to

907
00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:53,520
unpack here. But what's the
significance of this agreement?

908
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:56,370
You know, so this is really
significant because it could be

909
00:53:56,370 --> 00:53:59,700
the difference between the US
seeing another surge on the

910
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:03,600
southern border. Not you would
Mexican officials here that they

911
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,860
are going to quote depressurize
their northern Mexican border

912
00:54:07,860 --> 00:54:11,340
cities by deporting migrants
back to their home countries,

913
00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:14,460
which in essence means Mexico
would be rerouting the flow of

914
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:17,550
migration before migrants
actually get to the US southern

915
00:54:17,550 --> 00:54:20,400
border. US Representative Henry
Clare over the weekend,

916
00:54:20,580 --> 00:54:24,150
applauded this move saying that
this is a strategy that has

917
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:27,540
worked in the past under
President Obama and President

918
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:32,790
Trump. But it's notable to add
that advocacy organizations,

919
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:35,490
immigration advocates and human
rights organizations have in the

920
00:54:35,490 --> 00:54:37,830
past condemned this type of
strategy.

921
00:54:37,950 --> 00:54:40,380
Adam Curry: This is where they
bring in the human trafficking

922
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:43,230
and there's all kinds of
horrific stories, oh, human

923
00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:46,290
trafficking, human trafficking.
And of course, it's horrible.

924
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,390
These people are being told and
being given a license to travel

925
00:54:51,390 --> 00:54:53,490
to the United States and they've
been told don't worry about it

926
00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:55,860
when you get that yeah, maybe
you have to wait for them to cut

927
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:57,960
the razor wire but you come in,
it'd be all fine. You could stay

928
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,220
in the Roosevelt Hotel. This is
The it's a it's the it is the

929
00:55:02,730 --> 00:55:07,110
replacement migration. It is
underway. There's big money

930
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:09,150
behind it. And yeah, yes,

931
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:12,690
John C Dvorak: it has to be
somewhere it has to the whole

932
00:55:12,690 --> 00:55:16,830
thing has to be globalist.
Because if you remember, and

933
00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:21,810
we're going back 15 years, we
started doing the show almost 16

934
00:55:21,810 --> 00:55:26,190
years now. Yeah. Wow, there was
discussions. I think it was

935
00:55:26,190 --> 00:55:30,420
during the, during our show era.
It may have been before but I

936
00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:34,770
very distinctly remember it
about how we were lax at the

937
00:55:34,770 --> 00:55:39,810
Mexican border but the Mexicans
on the Guatemala border if you

938
00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:45,900
tried to cross into Mexico, they
they shoot you they beat you

939
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:50,820
couldn't get into Mexico, it was
impossible because the Mexicans

940
00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:55,170
were so mean about anyone trying
to enter their country now all

941
00:55:55,170 --> 00:55:59,490
of a sudden has singhalese and
and Venezuelans and everyone

942
00:55:59,490 --> 00:56:02,310
else just plowing through Mexico
like there's like there's no

943
00:56:02,310 --> 00:56:04,170
barrier to Mexico at all when

944
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,340
Unknown: the barrier North

945
00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:06,810
Adam Curry: Africans Africans.

946
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:09,990
John C Dvorak: Yeah. How does
that work

947
00:56:10,020 --> 00:56:13,500
Adam Curry: because the United
Nations migration migrant agency

948
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:16,320
is is shipping them they're
shipping them all over the

949
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:22,830
world. They're facilitating it.
And anybody who is we're just

950
00:56:22,830 --> 00:56:28,080
being distracted with Petia he
said she said Biden whatever be

951
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:33,300
Oh, stop shipping your people to
New York. Build the wall. Well,

952
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,420
it's a little late for that now
but it's the money it's big

953
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:41,280
money. And it is and they're not
shy about it the this white

954
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,730
paper which is in the show notes
have a read there and it's in

955
00:56:44,730 --> 00:56:49,680
multiple languages in good un
fashion, and its course ended

956
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:55,470
for the entire world to see and
and to act upon. And it's it's

957
00:56:55,470 --> 00:57:01,590
too late. Although Chicago is
starting to wake up a little bit

958
00:57:01,620 --> 00:57:04,320
Unknown: could Chicago reverse
course on his pledge to be a

959
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,940
sanctuary city, some aldermen

960
00:57:05,940 --> 00:57:08,730
are ready to leave it up to the
voters after another weekend of

961
00:57:08,730 --> 00:57:10,410
bus arrivals from the border.

962
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,420
Anthony Ponce is live with more
Anthony.

963
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:18,450
On it, Scott. The migrant crisis
shows no signs of slowing down

964
00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:22,710
as of this morning. Roughly 9000
migrants are being housed in

965
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:26,280
shelters across the city with
another 2000 camped out in

966
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,340
places like this where outside
of district 19 police

967
00:57:29,340 --> 00:57:33,180
headquarters are also camped out
at airports. And now with no end

968
00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:37,200
in sight. There's a new effort
underway to let voters taxpayers

969
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,860
themselves decide whether
whether Chicago should remain a

970
00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:42,180
sanctuary city.

971
00:57:43,110 --> 00:57:46,560
Adam Curry: Nobody has ever
asked the voters, the people who

972
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,280
actually pay taxes and vote here
in the city of Chicago. If they

973
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,920
want to remain a sanctuary city

974
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:55,530
Unknown: Ninth Ward Alderman
Anthony veal wants to change

975
00:57:55,530 --> 00:57:59,280
that migrants continuing to
arrive to Chicago by the bus

976
00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:59,610
load.

977
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,760
Adam Curry: Let's let the people
decide. Let's not be afraid of

978
00:58:02,790 --> 00:58:05,100
putting something on the ballot.
He's talking about the march

979
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:09,330
primary ballot. Which March
primary ballot that's after half

980
00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:12,450
of these people will frozen to
death in the winter.

981
00:58:13,050 --> 00:58:15,180
John C Dvorak: When Chicago some
winter

982
00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:16,590
Adam Curry: that'll cure people

983
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:19,830
Unknown: he wants to include the
question, should Chicago keep

984
00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:23,610
its sanctuary city designation,
the influx of migrants is

985
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:28,920
expected to cost Chicago
taxpayers $255 million, by the

986
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:29,910
end of this year,

987
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:31,320
Adam Curry: they're always
thrown out the money, it's going

988
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,070
to cost us so much going to know
it's going to cost you your job,

989
00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:39,000
your life, everything you all
have to remember, only a certain

990
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,760
fraction of the country are
dealing with this. These are

991
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,360
democratic cities and democratic
states are the only ones. We are

992
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,480
not sharing the wealth across
the country. Other cities and

993
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,120
other states are not dealing
with these problems in order for

994
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,450
the referendum to hear on the
march ballot. It would Oh no.

995
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:57,030
This is the beauty of like, Hey,
I think he says they're not

996
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:59,760
sharing the wealth, which is
even funnier listening entities

997
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,030
and democratic states are the
only ones. We are not sharing

998
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:06,750
the wealth across the country,
the wealth. Why is he saying the

999
00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:11,250
wealth, the wealth of illegal
immigrants, asylum seekers, job

1000
00:59:11,250 --> 00:59:15,120
seekers the wealth, you want to
share that wealth gray catch?

1001
00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:19,410
That's it. He also says only
Democrat city billion dollars by

1002
00:59:19,410 --> 00:59:23,010
the end of this year do you all
have to remember, only a certain

1003
00:59:23,010 --> 00:59:25,530
fraction of the country are
dealing with this. The

1004
00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:29,370
Democratic cities and democratic
states are the only ones. We are

1005
00:59:29,370 --> 00:59:32,490
not sharing the wealth across
the country. Other cities and

1006
00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:35,040
other states are not dealing
with these problems. They need

1007
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,230
some wealth, send them some
wealth in order for the

1008
00:59:37,230 --> 00:59:39,540
referendum to appear on the
march ballot.

1009
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:41,880
Unknown: It would need a
majority vote from the Chicago

1010
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,750
City Council.

1011
00:59:42,810 --> 00:59:44,010
John C Dvorak: I definitely
think that's something that

1012
00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:46,590
should be up for discussion
regardless of whether you're pro

1013
00:59:46,590 --> 00:59:47,520
or against it.

1014
00:59:47,550 --> 00:59:50,940
Unknown: I don't think it's that
important compared to a lot of

1015
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:53,730
the other issues that we are
facing in Chicago.

1016
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,630
Adam Curry: No really.

1017
00:59:57,900 --> 01:00:00,420
Unknown: San right now Chicago
is under what is called a

1018
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:05,700
welcoming city ordinance, which
means don't inquire as to any

1019
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:10,410
immigrants status and also
police officers do not cooperate

1020
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:11,760
with ICE agents.

1021
01:00:11,850 --> 01:00:14,100
Adam Curry: Now that's
interesting because they're

1022
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:18,210
saying police officers are not
cooperating with ICE agents

1023
01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:20,760
making it look like ice was
trying to do something but the

1024
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,310
cops man, they're in the
welcoming city of Chicago.

1025
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:27,210
They're not helping out. Well,
boots on the ground. Adam and

1026
01:00:27,210 --> 01:00:29,940
John thought you might find my
recent experience trying to get

1027
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:32,310
help from ice Homeland Security.
Interesting. Here's some

1028
01:00:32,310 --> 01:00:35,070
background. I've been a police
officer in a small Northwest

1029
01:00:35,070 --> 01:00:38,670
Ohio town for 25 years. We are
rural and are surrounded by a

1030
01:00:38,670 --> 01:00:41,790
lot of farmland we see a lot of
migrant workers. But recently,

1031
01:00:41,970 --> 01:00:45,840
we've seen a large uptick in
illegal immigrants so much so

1032
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:49,020
that I got a call from a trailer
park owner. The trailer park is

1033
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:52,140
owned by a management company
out of Florida, the Florida

1034
01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:54,540
manager reported that they
believe there may be possible

1035
01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:58,230
human trafficking of illegal
immigrants at two of their lots.

1036
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,620
So and then he goes on and you
know what he observed? You know,

1037
01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:04,530
people being shuttled, being fed
in one trailer and more people

1038
01:01:04,530 --> 01:01:07,410
coming in those people going
never seen them again. And he

1039
01:01:07,410 --> 01:01:11,820
says what is interesting is that
the registered tenant for one of

1040
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:14,520
those trailers doesn't actually
live there. That person is

1041
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,980
running a check cashing business
out of another residence. So

1042
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:21,150
it's a whole the scam is on all
different levels. Oh, yeah. This

1043
01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:24,240
type of investigation is not
something we're equipped to deal

1044
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,600
with. So I called for help. I
call the national hotline of ice

1045
01:01:27,630 --> 01:01:30,810
era Enforcement and Removal
Operations and received a

1046
01:01:30,810 --> 01:01:35,730
message that all lines were
busy. All lines are busy, please

1047
01:01:35,730 --> 01:01:39,270
call back later, I tried two
more times on different dates

1048
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:41,910
received the same message. In
addition, I also called the

1049
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:44,910
local office out of Detroit
three times and was sent to

1050
01:01:44,910 --> 01:01:49,080
voicemail. I have yet to receive
a call back getting work visas

1051
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,450
for all the immigrants in New
York City must be a bigger

1052
01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:55,380
priority. So ice is not
cooperating. Don't blame the

1053
01:01:55,380 --> 01:01:59,430
cops. Don't blame the cops. Ice
is not cooperating. That's

1054
01:01:59,430 --> 01:02:00,330
what's happening here.

1055
01:02:01,290 --> 01:02:04,740
John C Dvorak: The whole thing
is just to complete. Well, I

1056
01:02:04,740 --> 01:02:06,780
want to play this clip. And I
have a point to make.

1057
01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:08,760
Adam Curry: Okay, but I do have
some of your Europe stuff to do.

1058
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,870
So make sure

1059
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:15,390
John C Dvorak: migrants National
Park and New Tang Dynasty clip

1060
01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:19,080
this migrants. They want to move
into the national parks now.

1061
01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:19,440
Yeah.

1062
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,960
Unknown: And the Biden
administration's plan to house

1063
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:26,340
illegal immigrants on federal
lands and a national parks is

1064
01:02:26,340 --> 01:02:27,120
under scrutiny.

1065
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:30,690
Adam Curry: I got to stop this
for a second. So, you know, a

1066
01:02:30,690 --> 01:02:34,650
big story is which I think was
picked up by the daily wire.

1067
01:02:34,890 --> 01:02:41,100
Some guy flew his plane over
this land in Texas. And it's a

1068
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:45,210
development and the development
is pretty big. And they expect

1069
01:02:45,210 --> 01:02:47,640
to have I don't know, 20,000
people living in this

1070
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,360
development. And the story goes
like this. Illegal Immigrants

1071
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,730
are getting loans without
checking where they are.

1072
01:02:53,730 --> 01:02:56,310
There's, they're putting flags
in different countries. They're

1073
01:02:56,310 --> 01:02:59,370
raising them up over all this
development. It's all horrible.

1074
01:02:59,370 --> 01:03:04,470
It's all in Texas, it's no good.
And all you said all anyone has

1075
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:09,570
is this aerial footage of some
trailers. You know, it's like,

1076
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:14,220
and so everyone's up in arms
about this, this development

1077
01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:18,990
with this guy apparently is
giving out, you know, loans that

1078
01:03:18,990 --> 01:03:22,560
are not you know, you get a loan
without any collateral. The

1079
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:26,550
human trafficking but there's no
no pictures from on the ground.

1080
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,510
Even those Supposedly there's
flags of foreign nations being

1081
01:03:30,510 --> 01:03:34,170
hoisted over these trailers.
That's what everyone's mad

1082
01:03:34,170 --> 01:03:39,270
about. But we have to go to New
Tang Dynasty to find out that

1083
01:03:39,540 --> 01:03:42,060
the Biden administration wants
to put them in our national

1084
01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:47,820
parks. Where's the outrage? know
everybody gets outraged

1085
01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:49,020
John C Dvorak: by New Tang
Dynasty.

1086
01:03:49,859 --> 01:03:52,679
Unknown: A house committee held
a hearing today examining the

1087
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:53,369
proposal.

1088
01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:56,340
The Housing Committee on natural
resources held a hearing

1089
01:03:56,340 --> 01:03:59,100
Wednesday on the Biden
administration's use of National

1090
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:03,120
Park Service lands to house
illegal immigrants. Earlier this

1091
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,270
month, the Biden administration
agreed to lease Floyd Bennett

1092
01:04:06,270 --> 01:04:09,750
field to New York City. The site
is part of the Gateway National

1093
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:14,400
Recreation Area and temporarily
housed 2500 of the immigrants.

1094
01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:17,610
The endless flow of illegal
immigrants over our southern

1095
01:04:17,610 --> 01:04:21,480
border is not only destroying
individual cities and states is

1096
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,350
destroying our country. Now the
Biden administration is looking

1097
01:04:25,350 --> 01:04:30,420
to spread this chaos to one of
America's greatest ideas. Our

1098
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:31,470
national parks.

1099
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,720
Adam Curry: I didn't I didn't
either. I didn't watch the

1100
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:37,860
debate last night either. But
I'm sure that it was all about

1101
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,280
the Biden administration as the
borders open the Biden

1102
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,730
administration, this the Biden
administration that it's all

1103
01:04:44,730 --> 01:04:48,810
theater, they don't care. They
don't they have no solutions.

1104
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,620
They know it's a plan that it's
both way above their pay. Well,

1105
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:55,830
John C Dvorak: if you find a
dead doc, a major document for

1106
01:04:55,830 --> 01:04:57,810
2002 Everyone's seen it.

1107
01:04:57,930 --> 01:05:00,330
Adam Curry: Oh definitely. Yeah.
When

1108
01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:03,000
Unknown: announcing the Biden
administration's decision, New

1109
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,360
York City Mayor Eric Adams said
his own administration has

1110
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,360
quotes been forced to
unsustainably open new site

1111
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,710
after new site as asylum seekers
continue to arrive by the 1000s.

1112
01:05:14,010 --> 01:05:17,130
Democratic New York State
Assembly Member Jamie Williams,

1113
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:20,370
whose district includes Floyd
Bennett field, said she has

1114
01:05:20,370 --> 01:05:23,460
grave concerns over the
proposal. She emphasized that

1115
01:05:23,460 --> 01:05:26,970
the site has no infrastructure,
no plumbing, no electricity and

1116
01:05:26,970 --> 01:05:28,110
no sewage system.

1117
01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:31,950
Floyd Bennett field in National
Park is a treasure of natural

1118
01:05:31,950 --> 01:05:36,630
beauty and biodiversity. Housing
individuals here is equivalent

1119
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:40,230
to tarnishing the sanctity of
Yellowstone National Park. The

1120
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:43,530
irreversible damage of flora and
fauna and the destruction of our

1121
01:05:43,530 --> 01:05:48,030
natural beauty are contrary to
the ethos of conservation and

1122
01:05:48,030 --> 01:05:51,420
preservation. That National Park
symbolizes

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,440
Kenneth Spencer, chairman of the
US Park Police fraternal force

1124
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,800
of police expressed concerns
over the agency's readiness to

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01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,200
protect the public and the
immigrants themselves.

1126
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,740
Let me be perfectly clear, even
without the migrant shelter on

1127
01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:08,970
Floyd Bennett field, we are at
least 300 officers short of our

1128
01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:13,530
required minimum level. Our
capacity to serve and protect

1129
01:06:13,530 --> 01:06:16,380
the public today is literally
bursting at the seams.

1130
01:06:18,510 --> 01:06:21,540
Adam Curry: So this document has
all these different scenarios in

1131
01:06:21,540 --> 01:06:26,370
it with different projections
and they go all the way through

1132
01:06:26,370 --> 01:06:31,230
2050 in this document and be
what will we need, you know,

1133
01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:35,520
what are we going to need we're
gonna need for Europe and Italy

1134
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,430
and Europe and the European
Union from 2001. The European

1135
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:42,300
Union just started as the EU had
to happen didn't didn't even

1136
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:47,730
have the Euro at that point. I
don't think scenario now that

1137
01:06:47,730 --> 01:06:50,940
the monetary unit I don't think
the Euro happened till 2003.

1138
01:06:50,970 --> 01:06:53,250
John C Dvorak: Maybe let's take
a look we can we can check our

1139
01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:54,990
old facts. Yes, you check that
and

1140
01:06:54,990 --> 01:06:57,030
Adam Curry: I'll read this the
medium variant so sarin,

1141
01:06:57,030 --> 01:06:59,790
scenario one the medium variant
of projections from the United

1142
01:06:59,790 --> 01:07:03,480
Nations World Population
Prospects 1998 Revision scenario

1143
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,440
to the medium variant of the
1988 1998 Revision amended by

1144
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,300
assuming zero migration after
1995 This and in Scenario three,

1145
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:14,940
this scenario computes and
assumes the migration required

1146
01:07:14,940 --> 01:07:17,880
to maintain the size of the
total population at the highest

1147
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,730
level that would reach in the
absence of migration after 1995.

1148
01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:23,670
So that they they have figured
out exactly how much needs to

1149
01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:30,630
go. Where am they have by
millions Germany needs 10 point

1150
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:40,230
2 million the United States 38
million all of Europe 18 million

1151
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:44,850
European Union 13 point 4
million. That's the total number

1152
01:07:44,850 --> 01:07:50,040
than they have. They've plotted
this whole thing out the whole

1153
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,220
thing, although fertility May
May rebound in the coming

1154
01:07:53,220 --> 01:07:57,840
decades, few believe that for
titles, yes, it's few evidence

1155
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,330
of that a few believed that
fertility in most developed

1156
01:08:00,330 --> 01:08:02,040
countries will recover
sufficiently to reach

1157
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,310
replacement level in the
foreseeable future. Thus, making

1158
01:08:05,310 --> 01:08:08,130
population decline in edible
inevitable in the absence of

1159
01:08:08,130 --> 01:08:12,930
replacement migration is a
foregone conclusion. For France,

1160
01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:15,480
United Kingdom the United States
and European Union the numbers

1161
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,750
of migrants needed to offset
population decline are less than

1162
01:08:18,750 --> 01:08:21,720
or comparable to recent past
experience. While this is also

1163
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,060
the case for Germany and the
Russian Federation The migration

1164
01:08:24,060 --> 01:08:27,810
flows in 1990s relatively large
due to reunification disillusion

1165
01:08:27,810 --> 01:08:30,720
respectively. They have it all
figured out.

1166
01:08:30,990 --> 01:08:32,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just like
good socialists do.

1167
01:08:33,150 --> 01:08:37,110
Adam Curry: Thank you. So
Germany is also starting to you

1168
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:39,390
know, like what, what's what's
going on?

1169
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:42,390
Unknown: Dozens of asylum
hopefuls queue up outside of

1170
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:43,980
registration center in Berlin

1171
01:08:43,979 --> 01:08:48,539
Adam Curry: asylum hopefuls. Now
this is Berlin. Berlin. This is

1172
01:08:48,539 --> 01:08:50,459
not is Berlin on the border.

1173
01:08:51,569 --> 01:08:54,449
John C Dvorak: No, no his
anywhere but the border.

1174
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:56,280
Adam Curry: Tickets on the
border dozens

1175
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,750
Unknown: of zactly queue up
outside of registration center

1176
01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:04,800
in Berlin. Many have made long
arduous journeys to get here.

1177
01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:08,280
But with most asylum centers
already at maximum capacity,

1178
01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:10,050
they're facing more hurdles.

1179
01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:15,570
The capacities within more than
100 buildings for refugees are

1180
01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:20,310
coming to an end. We at the
moment we have about 200 places

1181
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:24,300
that could be offered to asylum
seekers

1182
01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:27,630
Adam Curry: work full Germany's
full Berlin's full.

1183
01:09:28,050 --> 01:09:31,530
Unknown: In Germany asylum
applications are up nearly 80%

1184
01:09:31,530 --> 01:09:35,430
Compared to 2020 to 10,000
people have applied this year in

1185
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:38,280
Berlin alone, forcing
authorities to open former

1186
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,830
airports, hardware stores and
churches.

1187
01:09:40,859 --> 01:09:43,319
Adam Curry: Well yeah, throw me
in the churches in the hard way.

1188
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:47,639
Ace Ace Hardware aces, the place
aces the friendly face, Aces the

1189
01:09:47,639 --> 01:09:49,889
place with a helpful immigrant
folks

1190
01:09:50,609 --> 01:09:53,579
Unknown: accommodate the growing
number of requests for 90

1191
01:09:53,579 --> 01:09:54,209
billigt. Well

1192
01:09:54,210 --> 01:09:57,870
now we have the dilemma that too
little capacity is available and

1193
01:09:57,870 --> 01:10:01,440
until the new ones are created
Of course cruel and terrible

1194
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:04,050
pictures rise of gyms being
occupied and full

1195
01:10:04,050 --> 01:10:07,380
accommodations. The flood of
refugees will not go away

1196
01:10:07,380 --> 01:10:09,960
especially called the word is
not getting more peaceful.

1197
01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:13,560
It's a fact the German
government is well aware of. On

1198
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,500
Wednesday, the Interior Ministry
announced increased border

1199
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:19,890
policing in an attempt to
discourage smugglers chef

1200
01:10:19,890 --> 01:10:23,040
destroys them. We must stop the
cruel business of the

1201
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,640
traffickers because they put
human lives at risk for maximum

1202
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,020
profits that federal police are
now carrying out additional

1203
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:34,860
checks on the smuggling routes.
That's the board is handling and

1204
01:10:34,890 --> 01:10:38,550
the Czech Republic. But as
strife continues to rage in many

1205
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:41,400
parts of the world, more
proactive policies will be

1206
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,180
needed to ensure refugees a
dignified life once they

1207
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:46,740
inevitably do arrive.

1208
01:10:46,770 --> 01:10:49,950
Adam Curry: You know what you
never hear? You never hear Hey,

1209
01:10:49,950 --> 01:10:54,360
we arrested a human trafficking
ring. You don't hear that these

1210
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,380
guys smartly. The ones going to
Europe on the boats pick those

1211
01:10:58,380 --> 01:11:02,760
guys up the guy steering the
boat now never hear that Greece

1212
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:08,700
has has decided they're going to
tap into the in undocumented

1213
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:14,370
migrants to curb the labor
squeeze. Hoo hoo hoo knew there

1214
01:11:14,370 --> 01:11:17,310
was no one left in Greece. No
one in Greece can work. Al is

1215
01:11:17,310 --> 01:11:20,010
Greeks are creative. And you
know what? They're gonna build

1216
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,770
the metro and the airport. Nice.
Yes, you and the German interior

1217
01:11:25,770 --> 01:11:29,130
minister. She wants voting
rights for refugees. Oh, this is

1218
01:11:29,130 --> 01:11:33,480
the next one. Yeah, they should
be able to vote, of course makes

1219
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:36,750
nothing but since Italy. Yes.

1220
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:40,170
John C Dvorak: I just want to
tell you the euro. January

1221
01:11:40,170 --> 01:11:45,390
119 99. Very easy to remember.
That's the first year that came

1222
01:11:45,390 --> 01:11:46,380
into existence.

1223
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:48,810
Adam Curry: I don't think the
Netherlands switch then though.

1224
01:11:48,810 --> 01:11:50,670
I thought the Netherlands switch
much later.

1225
01:11:50,730 --> 01:11:52,620
John C Dvorak: They didn't know
switch he wants but January

1226
01:11:52,620 --> 01:11:56,280
1 1999. The Euro came into
existence? Well, yeah,

1227
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,190
Adam Curry: it was it was a
European monetary unit. No, no,

1228
01:11:59,190 --> 01:12:01,290
John C Dvorak: that was years
earlier. This is when an actual

1229
01:12:01,290 --> 01:12:02,520
Euro showed up.

1230
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,710
Adam Curry: Right. But What
country did it show up in?

1231
01:12:05,310 --> 01:12:07,650
John C Dvorak: Were you asking
me more questions because

1232
01:12:07,650 --> 01:12:09,360
Adam Curry: I remember the
Netherlands. I was there at the

1233
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,770
time. And it was after 2000. But
thing was after 2001 and the

1234
01:12:13,770 --> 01:12:17,580
Gilder became the euro and
everyone was like, hey, my

1235
01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:20,040
coffee just doubled in price.
Oh, that happened?

1236
01:12:20,220 --> 01:12:22,830
John C Dvorak: really screwed.
The Italians got to the biggest

1237
01:12:22,830 --> 01:12:23,790
screw job from it.

1238
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:27,060
Adam Curry: Well, speaking of
the Italians, they're mad notes.

1239
01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:27,150
And

1240
01:12:27,150 --> 01:12:30,660
John C Dvorak: you okay, the
currency was formerly virtual in

1241
01:12:30,660 --> 01:12:35,190
1999 notes and coins began to
circulate in 2002.

1242
01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:38,400
Adam Curry: There you go. So
they were already planning this

1243
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,220
for the European Union before
the Euro was in circulation.

1244
01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:47,340
Italy is mad now. Because the
Germans supposedly are German

1245
01:12:47,370 --> 01:12:51,450
NGOs. This is the big one the
NGOs everywhere doing this. All

1246
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:56,310
this is how the money flows. The
human traffickers, I'm gonna say

1247
01:12:56,310 --> 01:13:00,600
they're just NGOs. That's why no
one ever gets arrested. an NGO

1248
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,620
man there's evidence

1249
01:13:01,620 --> 01:13:03,990
John C Dvorak: for that. That
just was if you recall, in Texas

1250
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:08,130
during the Trump administration,
they were finding these NGOs

1251
01:13:08,130 --> 01:13:12,930
that Catholics a lot of them,
yes. Oh, in Austin. Yeah. They

1252
01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:14,490
were moving migrants all

1253
01:13:14,490 --> 01:13:16,560
Adam Curry: over the place.
million dollars a year they were

1254
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,040
making. Yeah. And they were
making Yes, they were making a

1255
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:25,080
billion dollars. So Italy. Now
Oh, Lampedusa. It's full.

1256
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,380
There's more migrants now than
live on the island of Lampedusa.

1257
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:30,840
But that's okay. We've got a
plan.

1258
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:34,200
Unknown: Italy has set up its
first center for asylum seekers

1259
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,290
deemed to have come from so
called safe countries.

1260
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,900
Adam Curry: Oh, they're from
safe countries. Don't worry.

1261
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:42,240
These aren't the raping kind.
Don't worry about Italian

1262
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,150
Unknown: government hopes the
facility in the Sicilian port of

1263
01:13:45,150 --> 01:13:49,470
Pizarro will accelerate the
process of asylum claims. It

1264
01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:53,100
will house people who can't
claim refugee status as they've

1265
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:57,690
arrived from countries not
considered to be dangerous. It

1266
01:13:57,690 --> 01:14:01,440
comes as Italy's trying to cope
with severe overcrowding at its

1267
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:05,550
migrant center on Lampedusa
Island. Authorities have begun

1268
01:14:05,550 --> 01:14:09,030
moving some other locations
after a recent surge in

1269
01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:12,660
arrivals. The extent of the
problem was highlighted earlier

1270
01:14:12,660 --> 01:14:16,260
this month, when some migrants
broke out of the center because

1271
01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:20,460
of a lack of space and essential
provisions. In an effort to

1272
01:14:20,460 --> 01:14:23,760
reduce numbers arriving, Prime
Minister Georgia Maloney's

1273
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,360
cabinet is implementing measures
against young adults posing as

1274
01:14:27,390 --> 01:14:30,960
unaccompanied minors in order to
claim state protection minutes

1275
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:31,320
Okay,

1276
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,770
Adam Curry: so these are their
safe safe asylum seekers. Don't

1277
01:14:34,770 --> 01:14:37,770
worry about it. These are the
safe kind, not the kind that are

1278
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:42,450
raping and pillaging and blowing
up cars in Sweden. Not the kind

1279
01:14:42,450 --> 01:14:47,490
that are beating up gay lesbian
to spirit whatever trans in the

1280
01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:50,340
Netherlands now, it's not that
kind. It's not that kind. None.

1281
01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:54,330
No, it's it's all safe. Don't
worry about it. And the only cup

1282
01:14:54,330 --> 01:14:57,690
Well, there's two, but the only
country that is standing up and

1283
01:14:57,690 --> 01:15:04,740
saying hey, you leftists you
morons. It's all your own fault

1284
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:05,880
is Poland.

1285
01:15:07,770 --> 01:15:09,180
John C Dvorak: Hungary out of
the picture I

1286
01:15:09,180 --> 01:15:12,690
Adam Curry: said there's two. I
said, I don't have a clip of a

1287
01:15:12,810 --> 01:15:16,140
of a Hungarian member of
European Parliament. I only have

1288
01:15:16,140 --> 01:15:19,740
a clip of the Polish member of
European Parliament. Dominique

1289
01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:21,180
tarzi. insky Thank you,

1290
01:15:21,180 --> 01:15:24,720
Unknown: Mr. President. You're
leftists.

1291
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,640
Adam Curry: I love that. Hey,
dear leftists Hello, hello

1292
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:30,840
leftists How you doing? Thank

1293
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,850
Unknown: you, Mr. President,
Your leftists I'm very happy to

1294
01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:39,600
take part in this debate about
democracy in Europe. So let me

1295
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,980
give you some example of a very
major democracy in Poland over

1296
01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:50,040
1000 years of, of tradition of
Polish nation. Polish nation

1297
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:55,800
rejected you, dear leftists A
times A times in the role you

1298
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:01,530
have lost elections in Poland.
So get used to it, because

1299
01:16:01,530 --> 01:16:05,640
you're going to lose again.
That's number one. Let me give

1300
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,720
you some data about Poland and
Polish democracy. The lowest

1301
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:15,690
unemployment in European Union
is Poland. The highest GDP after

1302
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:21,420
COVID in European Union is
Poland. One of the lowest depths

1303
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:29,700
in European Union is Poland. So
don't give us this rubbish about

1304
01:16:29,700 --> 01:16:35,310
the need of educated immigration
as we heard yesterday, we don't

1305
01:16:35,310 --> 01:16:39,930
need your doctors. We don't need
your engineers. Take them. Take

1306
01:16:39,930 --> 01:16:43,710
them all and pay for them. We
don't need them. You know why?

1307
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:49,110
Because there's zero terrorist
attacks in Poland. Why? Because

1308
01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:52,470
because there is no illegal
migration in Poland. So don't

1309
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:55,470
give me this. Look, don't give
me this arguments about the

1310
01:16:55,470 --> 01:16:58,860
populism. Because this is a
fact. This is your data from

1311
01:16:58,860 --> 01:17:03,060
Eurostar. So we don't need your
engineers. We don't need your

1312
01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:08,100
doctors. Take them. Do not do
that. Do not teach us do not do

1313
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:11,250
that teach us about democracy,
because we know what the

1314
01:17:11,250 --> 01:17:17,850
democracy is. So learn from
Poland be like Poland. Thank you

1315
01:17:17,850 --> 01:17:18,420
very much.

1316
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:23,460
Adam Curry: Like Poland?
Exactly. We don't have any of

1317
01:17:23,460 --> 01:17:27,270
those problems, why we're not
letting them in? Which will be a

1318
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:29,100
very big problem for Poland.

1319
01:17:29,130 --> 01:17:32,070
John C Dvorak: Well, they also
have they maintain their

1320
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:41,970
population they have a high
fertility the don't go laxed and

1321
01:17:41,970 --> 01:17:45,540
slack off. No. Which brings me
to the point of what you're

1322
01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:47,970
going to do with all these
people. Because obvious I think

1323
01:17:47,970 --> 01:17:50,910
you're right there's nothing to
stop this because it's a scam.

1324
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:56,010
shanty towns, I'm telling you,
people are gonna have to get

1325
01:17:56,010 --> 01:17:59,310
used to this idea, instead of
putting them up here and there

1326
01:17:59,310 --> 01:18:04,680
is to give them a huge area and
let them there's people coming

1327
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,040
in from all over the place that
are very skilled workers in

1328
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,240
terms of carpentry. Yeah, the
shanty towns are gonna we

1329
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:17,040
Adam Curry: don't have any more
blacksmith plumbers, people who

1330
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,620
have skills that we don't want
any more.

1331
01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:25,560
John C Dvorak: Whether we have
or not, is the point that I'm

1332
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:29,550
making is that to deal with all
this influxes, you're going to

1333
01:18:29,550 --> 01:18:34,770
have to let them take care of
themselves. And shanty towns,

1334
01:18:34,890 --> 01:18:40,290
favelas as you would have it in
Brazil, to do work.

1335
01:18:42,510 --> 01:18:44,400
Adam Curry: You know where this
is going to happen. First the

1336
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:53,520
shanty towns. Alberta, Alberta.
Listen to the Alberta migrants

1337
01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:57,600
are driving a population surge
and Alberta is the fastest

1338
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,400
growing province 98% of Canada's
population growth over the last

1339
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,820
year came from international
migration. Let that sink in. I

1340
01:19:05,820 --> 01:19:08,910
love saying that. Let that sink
in, soak it think and think

1341
01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:13,410
about it. Think about it soak in
that for a moment match that 98%

1342
01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:18,180
of Canada's burst your bubble in
Canada's population growth came

1343
01:19:18,180 --> 01:19:21,870
from international migration.
Because Canadians I mean,

1344
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:25,800
Americans are nice, we're nice
guys, Canadians, you're so much

1345
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,610
nicer and you're being taken
advantage of the surge in

1346
01:19:29,610 --> 01:19:32,160
international migration is
driving Canada's population

1347
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:37,530
growth rate to its heights not
seen in almost 70 years. And

1348
01:19:37,530 --> 01:19:41,610
Alberta is now growing faster
than any province has seen since

1349
01:19:41,610 --> 01:19:44,160
records began like climate
change.

1350
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:49,080
John C Dvorak: The the growth
rate news to me this is a good

1351
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:49,860
one. The growth

1352
01:19:49,860 --> 01:19:52,200
Adam Curry: rate is the highest
recorded in Canada since a 12

1353
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,820
month period in 1957. Went hit
3.3% annually during the height

1354
01:19:56,820 --> 01:20:00,630
of the baby boom and the
Hungarian refugee crowd ISIS,

1355
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:04,980
close to 98% of that population
growth can be attributed to net

1356
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:07,770
migration, the number of non
permanent residents has jumped

1357
01:20:07,770 --> 01:20:13,080
46% Mostly due to an increase in
work and study permits. So

1358
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:13,770
you're letting them in.

1359
01:20:15,690 --> 01:20:18,090
John C Dvorak: legislate them in
a different way. Yeah.

1360
01:20:18,450 --> 01:20:25,980
Adam Curry: Yeah. So this, I
mean, I, you know, people either

1361
01:20:26,010 --> 01:20:27,540
have to stand up and say, no,

1362
01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:31,020
John C Dvorak: they wish they're
not doing. No one's doing it,

1363
01:20:31,020 --> 01:20:31,290
because

1364
01:20:31,290 --> 01:20:33,090
Adam Curry: we're all so nice.
And we've been told all the

1365
01:20:33,090 --> 01:20:36,510
human traffic that there was
some Republican lady went down

1366
01:20:36,510 --> 01:20:39,780
to the border plague a horrible
story about women getting raped.

1367
01:20:39,810 --> 01:20:43,560
Yes, of course. It's horrible.
But that's not the problem. We

1368
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:48,000
need to stop it all. Stop.
Everyone needs to stop it.

1369
01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:50,880
John C Dvorak: But you can't.
You can't. Because if it's an

1370
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,230
international, international
controlled by everybody, this

1371
01:20:56,100 --> 01:21:00,210
Adam Curry: banks, banks, the
famous New York banker, we win,

1372
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,830
and lawmakers have no incentive
to stop it because they get to

1373
01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:08,190
spend money. When there's more
people, they love it. They're

1374
01:21:08,190 --> 01:21:11,220
writing laws, we're doing more
laws, you got some more stuff.

1375
01:21:11,340 --> 01:21:18,600
When we got home, we have to set
up camps, favelas. Where should

1376
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,950
we have the favelas in America?
I mean, they work? I'm with you

1377
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:24,900
on that? Where do we set them
up? Do we do that? And the

1378
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:25,830
national parks?

1379
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:28,590
John C Dvorak: No, you can't do
that. That's the that's the

1380
01:21:28,590 --> 01:21:32,670
reason that National Parks story
showed up is to is to that will

1381
01:21:32,670 --> 01:21:36,210
continue to show up as they Oh
my god, they're gonna wreck our

1382
01:21:36,210 --> 01:21:39,660
parks. And you know, we have all
these tree huggers that are part

1383
01:21:39,660 --> 01:21:42,780
of this culture that won't put
up with it. So you're going to

1384
01:21:42,780 --> 01:21:46,920
have to find in Brazil, the
irony of Brazil, I've

1385
01:21:46,980 --> 01:21:49,140
Adam Curry: first time I went
there. You've been there. So you

1386
01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:51,900
can a lot talk about it. Yeah.
But the irony

1387
01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:53,580
John C Dvorak: of Brazil was
pointed out to me almost

1388
01:21:53,580 --> 01:21:56,070
immediately, because the
Brazilians like to point it out

1389
01:21:56,070 --> 01:22:01,200
is that the best views and the
best property that would be

1390
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:06,000
worth a fortune is where the
favelas are, especially in Rio.

1391
01:22:07,980 --> 01:22:12,270
There's one hill in Rio, that is
all for velas. It's just a slum.

1392
01:22:12,330 --> 01:22:16,380
It's a slum. And it is, as
somebody would point out, this

1393
01:22:16,380 --> 01:22:19,980
is where you want to see a view
view to knock your socks off for

1394
01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:22,290
them. You go live in the
favelas, because they gave them

1395
01:22:22,290 --> 01:22:25,860
all the view land and the best
prime property.

1396
01:22:25,890 --> 01:22:28,620
Adam Curry: I have an idea. I
have an idea for the United

1397
01:22:28,620 --> 01:22:32,370
States where we can build the
favelas. Aspen,

1398
01:22:33,930 --> 01:22:36,720
John C Dvorak: Aspen would be
good. Yeah, a little cold.

1399
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:41,040
Adam Curry: used to it. After
Chicago, they'll know. They'll

1400
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:46,980
know what they're in for. It's
disturbing. But everybody go to

1401
01:22:46,980 --> 01:22:50,670
the show notes under you'll see
it replacement migration and get

1402
01:22:50,670 --> 01:22:52,950
that white paper, take a look at
it, read through it. And you'll

1403
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:56,790
see that this has been planned
all the way through 2050. And

1404
01:22:56,790 --> 01:23:01,590
they're doing it instead of
instead of the fact we've done

1405
01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:06,090
the exact opposite of
stimulating population growth to

1406
01:23:06,090 --> 01:23:08,730
keep up with the aging
population.

1407
01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:12,870
John C Dvorak: No, we're
actually we're and sterilizing

1408
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:14,070
kids sterilizing

1409
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:16,200
Adam Curry: kids telling him
you're scaring everybody with

1410
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,500
climate change. Oh, you don't
want any kids for climate

1411
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:22,860
change. And why? Because in the
in the infamous words of George

1412
01:23:22,860 --> 01:23:26,310
Carlin, they want obedient
workers. That's what they want.

1413
01:23:27,330 --> 01:23:30,240
People who will shut up and do
what they're told because

1414
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:37,350
they're under TPS, temporary,
permanent something. They're

1415
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:40,860
allowed to stay for a while. But
hey, stay in line. Do what we

1416
01:23:40,860 --> 01:23:44,370
tell you to do. That's what
we're all we you're too mouthy.

1417
01:23:44,610 --> 01:23:47,820
We're too complicated. We have
ideas of like running for

1418
01:23:47,820 --> 01:23:52,530
office. No, no, no. And let them
vote. Let them vote. Let them

1419
01:23:52,530 --> 01:23:54,570
vote for us. Who keeps them in
offices?

1420
01:23:54,570 --> 01:23:58,230
John C Dvorak: Thanks. What's it
gonna change?

1421
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,140
Adam Curry: What the vote no,
it'll change nothing. They'll

1422
01:24:01,140 --> 01:24:01,620
shut down.

1423
01:24:01,710 --> 01:24:03,000
John C Dvorak: They'll change
nothing. They'll

1424
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,580
Adam Curry: vote though. No, but
it gives everyone the illusion

1425
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,510
on how's it they're good
citizens. And there'll be

1426
01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:16,440
washing your car, shining your
shoes, cooking your meals. And I

1427
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:21,720
guess we just all want it. A lot
of refers. Meanwhile, in

1428
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,050
America, we don't really care
about that. We're obsessed about

1429
01:24:25,050 --> 01:24:25,830
stuff like this.

1430
01:24:25,860 --> 01:24:28,410
Unknown: Taylor Swift has
entered her football era.

1431
01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:31,950
If we play like this every time
Taylor's inability and then she

1432
01:24:31,950 --> 01:24:33,690
needs to be here every week.

1433
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,080
Swift made her fearless return
to Kansas City's Arrowhead

1434
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,800
Stadium which she sold out twice
last summer to cheer on NFL

1435
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,360
tight end. Travis Kelce.

1436
01:24:42,420 --> 01:24:44,610
I told her I've seen you rock
the stage and arrowhead. You

1437
01:24:44,610 --> 01:24:46,530
might have to come see me rocket
stage and erlaubt

1438
01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:49,920
wearing red of course next to
Kelsey is mom Donna. The

1439
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,070
reaction beyond the NFL wildest
dreams.

1440
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,620
Adam Curry: Travis Kelce has had
a lot of big catches in his

1441
01:24:55,620 --> 01:24:57,600
career. This would be

1442
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:58,140
John C Dvorak: the biggest

1443
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,470
Unknown: the women's editions of
it As Jersey are selling fast

1444
01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:05,220
online, the company behind
Kelsey is outfit, capitalizing

1445
01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:09,450
calling it the 1989 and stores
touting the New Balance shoes

1446
01:25:09,450 --> 01:25:13,230
she wore to the game. A hot
commodity Swifties know all too

1447
01:25:13,230 --> 01:25:17,130
well, she's a mastermind of her
business reputation. Her tour

1448
01:25:17,130 --> 01:25:20,370
alone expected to add an
estimated $5 billion to the

1449
01:25:20,370 --> 01:25:24,780
global economy more than the GDP
of at least 50 countries gotten

1450
01:25:24,780 --> 01:25:28,950
to the errors. And now her fans
suddenly paying attention to the

1451
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:31,710
NFL, and the players are ready
for it.

1452
01:25:31,740 --> 01:25:36,090
Adam Curry: So troll war POTUS
just rage quit out of the troll

1453
01:25:36,090 --> 01:25:41,190
room. Adam, now you lost a
listener by but that's too bad

1454
01:25:41,190 --> 01:25:46,560
because the reason I played this
was only a setup for a classic

1455
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:54,510
no agenda clip. Which was a
source from being at.io. As we

1456
01:25:54,510 --> 01:25:58,710
know, we you specifically
identified the Taylor Swift

1457
01:25:58,710 --> 01:26:00,450
phenomenon very early on.

1458
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,370
John C Dvorak: No, you're a
decade ago.

1459
01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:12,630
Adam Curry: March 1 2009 14
years ago. No agenda episode 76.

1460
01:26:12,630 --> 01:26:16,260
Let's go back everybody and
listen to what John discovered.

1461
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,420
John C Dvorak: Was Taylor Swift.

1462
01:26:18,810 --> 01:26:20,010
Adam Curry: Taylor Swift.

1463
01:26:20,220 --> 01:26:23,640
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the
new I don't know who was the one

1464
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,450
that picks says okay, we're
gonna make her a star. And they

1465
01:26:27,450 --> 01:26:30,750
find some growth. This is kind
of a discovery cute looking,

1466
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:36,390
puffy faced blonde, who is now a
she's a singer. And she's been

1467
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:38,760
on everything. She's on this
show and that show and that she

1468
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,520
was hot, you know, highlighted
on Saturday Night Live, which is

1469
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,980
rerun, but it was she was like,
you know, first ran a couple of

1470
01:26:43,980 --> 01:26:44,940
weeks. Maybe a

1471
01:26:44,940 --> 01:26:46,860
Adam Curry: couple months on
tree Country Girl country

1472
01:26:46,860 --> 01:26:47,280
singer.

1473
01:26:47,370 --> 01:26:50,130
John C Dvorak: I don't know. She
seems kind of that kind of

1474
01:26:50,130 --> 01:26:54,570
middle of the road. Quasi
yodeling lesbian sounding kind

1475
01:26:54,570 --> 01:26:58,560
of. But the problem is she
doesn't have any range. She's

1476
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,800
got no range at all. So she said
she has just got to kind of a

1477
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:07,050
flat voice with a very small,
really narrow range and, and the

1478
01:27:07,050 --> 01:27:12,420
material is weak. So I'm
watching her. And so so.

1479
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,480
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know who she
is. Yeah. Andrew Gromit.

1480
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,880
John C Dvorak: Andrew grommet
says, oh, you know, my wife and

1481
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:31,080
my daughter are really into this
girl named Taylor Swift. And I

1482
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,820
mean, I don't know what he was
going to tell me because then I

1483
01:27:32,820 --> 01:27:37,770
went off on him. Something about
Taylor Swift, I guess but, but I

1484
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:41,550
just it's just like, overnight,
this just just just happens.

1485
01:27:41,550 --> 01:27:43,890
I've never seen anything like
does she have a background? Has

1486
01:27:43,890 --> 01:27:47,580
she paid her dues? Has she been
around forever singing the blues

1487
01:27:47,580 --> 01:27:49,830
and Memphis? I mean, what, you
know, the next thing you know

1488
01:27:49,830 --> 01:27:56,490
she's there and she stinks. I
should add to that, because I

1489
01:27:56,490 --> 01:28:01,890
remember this whole thing. I her
dad was a superstar lawyer

1490
01:28:01,890 --> 01:28:04,650
Lynch. He was investment banker,
right banker. That's

1491
01:28:04,650 --> 01:28:05,850
Adam Curry: what he was
investment bank. He

1492
01:28:05,850 --> 01:28:10,320
John C Dvorak: moved the family
to Memphis Yes. Where he picked

1493
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,020
up a bunch of clients that were
you know, looking to do

1494
01:28:13,020 --> 01:28:15,060
something with a lot of their
money. And he had this daughter

1495
01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:18,510
named Taylor and he's gonna push
her into the scene. And he did

1496
01:28:18,510 --> 01:28:24,960
and she B being in a family of
smart money. She was a genius at

1497
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,810
marketing and marketing herself
in this whole thing with Travis

1498
01:28:27,810 --> 01:28:31,410
Kelce. I listened to a guide,
listen to Sports Talk. These

1499
01:28:31,410 --> 01:28:34,350
people actually think this is a
boyfriend girlfriend thing.

1500
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:40,770
Nope. They are so stupid. This
is such a setup for publicity.

1501
01:28:41,130 --> 01:28:44,520
And the giveaway to me was what
after that game that she would

1502
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:51,420
attended they will they walked
together to some limos and as a

1503
01:28:51,420 --> 01:28:56,280
new boyfriend, girlfriend, two
things that very observable, not

1504
01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,600
holding hands. And the second
one is events you don't hold

1505
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:04,560
hands with, with a promotional
woman like her chair who's a

1506
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:08,400
genius at this, she would have
at least locked arms and gone

1507
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:13,080
arm and arm to the limits
because that's what you would do

1508
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,360
if you're a boyfriend,
girlfriend. That's what you

1509
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,930
would do in the early stages.
You're gonna lock arms, or hold

1510
01:29:18,930 --> 01:29:24,240
hands or, or even, you know, put
his arm around the shoulder or

1511
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:28,890
something. No, none of that. It
was to business people walking

1512
01:29:28,890 --> 01:29:31,830
down together thinking about how
much money they're gonna make.

1513
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:33,750
Adam Curry: And here's the
business end of it.

1514
01:29:33,870 --> 01:29:36,330
Unknown: Travis did you know you
can get this season's COVID-19

1515
01:29:36,330 --> 01:29:38,220
shot when you get your flu shot?
Oh,

1516
01:29:38,429 --> 01:29:49,169
two things at once. One, I'll
have two things at once, please.

1517
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:55,499
Now back to two things at once.
Two things at once. No two

1518
01:29:55,499 --> 01:30:00,989
things at once. Travis asked
about Getting this season's

1519
01:30:00,989 --> 01:30:03,149
COVID-19 shot when getting your
flu shot.

1520
01:30:03,390 --> 01:30:06,480
Adam Curry: There it is. It's
all transactional. And I think

1521
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:09,990
the Kardashians actually saw
what Taylor Swift and her family

1522
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:14,310
did. And the machine because she
she she has writers. She doesn't

1523
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:18,300
just you know yodel herself you
know she's she has writers who

1524
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:21,750
have very skilled you know, and
the whole industry look if you

1525
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:25,440
have a decent song, you repeat
it in the algo on Spotify five

1526
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:27,990
times everybody it's a hit.
That's how it works is very

1527
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:31,470
simple. It's all transactional,
the Kardashians went and that's

1528
01:30:31,470 --> 01:30:34,980
too bad my girl you know, what's
your name? The mom the momager

1529
01:30:35,190 --> 01:30:40,200
just too bad. My girls have no
talent. We'll just put them on

1530
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,070
top of some basketball players.
That's what she did. So now it's

1531
01:30:44,340 --> 01:30:45,690
worse. Yeah, it works

1532
01:31:01,140 --> 01:31:02,190
Unknown: we see more posts.

1533
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,890
Adam Curry: That's right time
for you. COVID Boost. CNN

1534
01:31:07,890 --> 01:31:08,610
leading the pack.

1535
01:31:08,610 --> 01:31:10,890
Unknown: New federal data is
revealing a disturbing trend in

1536
01:31:10,890 --> 01:31:13,860
the recent increase in COVID 19
cases hospitalizations are

1537
01:31:13,860 --> 01:31:16,830
rising faster than average among
children. SENIOR MEDICAL

1538
01:31:16,830 --> 01:31:18,900
CORRESPONDENT Meg Terrell is
here with the details.

1539
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,440
Are these hospitalizations in
vaccinated and unvaccinated

1540
01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:23,490
children? Do we know?

1541
01:31:23,580 --> 01:31:26,910
Well, the vaccination rates
among kids are extremely low,

1542
01:31:26,910 --> 01:31:30,330
particularly for kids under
five, only 13% of those kids

1543
01:31:30,330 --> 01:31:33,480
have actually gotten any dose of
COVID vaccine. So there's not a

1544
01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:34,560
lot of unity out there.

1545
01:31:34,590 --> 01:31:36,690
Adam Curry: This doesn't ring
true at all. She's not answering

1546
01:31:36,690 --> 01:31:39,330
the question. She'll come around
to it at the end. But the

1547
01:31:39,330 --> 01:31:42,240
question is, are these kids
vaccinated or not? Well, you

1548
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,180
know, it's very low. And this
and you're bad parents from

1549
01:31:45,180 --> 01:31:47,250
Unknown: vaccination or from
prior infection in that age

1550
01:31:47,250 --> 01:31:50,160
group. For teenagers, it's
higher. And so you would expect

1551
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,650
we haven't seen this specific
data breaking it out, but that

1552
01:31:52,650 --> 01:31:55,170
most of the hospitalizations are
an unvaccinated kids.

1553
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,030
We have a sense. You talked
about the vaccinations, how the

1554
01:31:57,030 --> 01:32:00,720
administration has handled kind
of this latest wanna say wave

1555
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,120
this spike, what's the
terminology I should even use

1556
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,520
here? But how the administration
is operating in this moment?

1557
01:32:05,550 --> 01:32:07,710
Yeah, we are starting to hear
that the White House, of course,

1558
01:32:07,710 --> 01:32:10,860
is watching this. And today,
actually, they relaunched the

1559
01:32:10,860 --> 01:32:13,740
home COVID test program. So you
can order for free tests per

1560
01:32:13,740 --> 01:32:17,070
household COVID test.gov. And
experts say this is really

1561
01:32:17,070 --> 01:32:20,070
important, not just that you can
prevent spread of COVID If you

1562
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:22,170
think you might have it yourself
to people who might be

1563
01:32:22,170 --> 01:32:24,690
vulnerable. But also because if
you're in a high risk group,

1564
01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:27,630
treatment is actually available
if you test positive for COVID.

1565
01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:30,180
And knowing sooner rather than
later helps you actually get

1566
01:32:30,180 --> 01:32:30,930
those extra COVID

1567
01:32:30,930 --> 01:32:33,030
For example, you have to take
pretty soon, right? Yeah, within

1568
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:33,600
five days,

1569
01:32:33,780 --> 01:32:37,890
Adam Curry: within five days.
Okay. So this is a study that

1570
01:32:37,890 --> 01:32:42,180
came out from Martin Luther
University Hala Viton bear. This

1571
01:32:42,180 --> 01:32:45,810
is a very well known University.
500 year old research university

1572
01:32:45,810 --> 01:32:49,800
in Germany, found that people
with the highest risk of long

1573
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:55,110
COVID or post COVID condition
were unvaccinated people

1574
01:32:55,110 --> 01:33:00,600
infected with the Wuhan variant.
They also just as a sideline

1575
01:33:00,810 --> 01:33:05,250
tested to see if vaccinated
people were better protected

1576
01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:09,690
against long COVID. And results
say no, there's absolutely zero

1577
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:14,310
chance that you will have, the
less chance that you will have

1578
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,990
long COVID Whatever that is, we
still don't really know what it

1579
01:33:18,990 --> 01:33:24,510
is. If you're vaccinated, so
it's it's the whole this is the

1580
01:33:24,510 --> 01:33:28,380
member of the CDC director, our
new one Mandy Cohen said this.

1581
01:33:28,530 --> 01:33:31,650
Unknown: So what the vaccine can
do is protect you from the worst

1582
01:33:31,650 --> 01:33:34,650
of what COVID is. But remember,
the vaccine early data is

1583
01:33:34,650 --> 01:33:39,000
showing us it can also prevent
you from getting long COVID It

1584
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,090
decreases your risk of getting
long COVID which is extended

1585
01:33:42,090 --> 01:33:46,200
symptoms from that COVID virus.
So yes, protecting from the

1586
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,380
worst but also protecting you
from potential long term

1587
01:33:49,380 --> 01:33:51,930
symptoms from this virus even if
you have a mild case.

1588
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,140
Adam Curry: Okay, so it does not
protect you from long COVID That

1589
01:33:55,140 --> 01:34:00,300
is the peer reviewed research a
liar. Well, she's poorly

1590
01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:04,680
informed, which is bad for the
CDC director or she's a liar.

1591
01:34:04,770 --> 01:34:06,690
But don't worry NBC to the
rescue act

1592
01:34:06,690 --> 01:34:09,660
Unknown: now with rising
concerns about COVID as we move

1593
01:34:09,660 --> 01:34:14,280
into the COVID was ASINs are up
nearly 8% And beginning today,

1594
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,480
free tests are once again
available at COVID test.gov. And

1595
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:22,200
for those suffering from long
COVID A study just out is giving

1596
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,680
new clues to identifying and
possibly treating the mystery

1597
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,510
condition. Here's Anne Thompson.

1598
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:36,510
Cello is Joshua Romans pleasure
in profession. Long COVID made

1599
01:34:36,510 --> 01:34:40,350
it tough for the virtuoso
soloists to play lengthy pieces.

1600
01:34:40,380 --> 01:34:43,650
What kind of difference has long
COVID Made in your career?

1601
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,770
Adam Curry: Hey, go out and get
me a human interest story on

1602
01:34:46,770 --> 01:34:49,470
long COVID Let's do something
about long code. Make it

1603
01:34:49,470 --> 01:34:52,560
something everyone can feel kind
of really bad. I mean, this is a

1604
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:53,760
virtue. Oh, so

1605
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:57,990
Unknown: long COVID has forced
me to only do the most important

1606
01:34:57,990 --> 01:34:58,500
things

1607
01:34:58,590 --> 01:35:02,520
long COVID impacts X percent of
adults according to the CDC,

1608
01:35:02,670 --> 01:35:06,960
symptoms include fatigue, brain
fog and memory difficulties. Now

1609
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,130
a new study offers clues about
potential blood biomarkers.

1610
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,790
We're seeing patterns. David
Petrino is the lead researcher

1611
01:35:14,790 --> 01:35:16,020
on our study showed that

1612
01:35:16,050 --> 01:35:20,190
individuals with long COVID had
significant and measurable

1613
01:35:20,190 --> 01:35:23,160
differences in their blood. And
what were those differences?

1614
01:35:23,190 --> 01:35:27,630
These differences were a mixture
of hormone dysfunction, immune

1615
01:35:27,630 --> 01:35:32,490
dysfunction, and reactivation of
past viruses,

1616
01:35:32,580 --> 01:35:37,110
specifically, 50% lower levels
of cortisol, the hormone that

1617
01:35:37,110 --> 01:35:41,130
makes you feel alert and awake T
cell exhaustion in immune

1618
01:35:41,130 --> 01:35:45,150
systems, and dormant viruses
like Epstein Barr and herpes

1619
01:35:45,150 --> 01:35:48,240
reemerging this isn't a simple
illness. This is a complex

1620
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:52,230
illness. The study examined the
blood of 268 people, some who

1621
01:35:52,230 --> 01:35:56,160
recovered from COVID Some never
infected, some with long COVID

1622
01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:00,270
like Roman who wants to not need
reminders like this and have

1623
01:36:00,270 --> 01:36:02,970
total recall of the music he
loves.

1624
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:05,520
Adam Curry: All right, so I'm
gonna set you up here, John,

1625
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,300
because this is one of those
instances where we both clipped

1626
01:36:09,330 --> 01:36:14,940
the same astounding discovery.
Of course, none of this could be

1627
01:36:14,940 --> 01:36:18,210
from the vaccination itself,
none of it whatsoever because

1628
01:36:18,780 --> 01:36:23,100
you crazy the vaccine protects
you from the worst of COVID. Now

1629
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:25,800
the reason I'm going to set you
up is I actually clipped a lot

1630
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,490
more shorter bits than you did
you clipped three pieces or

1631
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,880
three or four pieces. You have a
you have a titled as COVID

1632
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:37,320
virologist, which is incorrect.
So I'm going to set you up with

1633
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:44,850
my intro clip of professor. His
name is Professor Buck halt. He

1634
01:36:44,850 --> 01:36:50,190
is from University of South
Carolina. And he is not a

1635
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:54,510
virologist, he he's gonna
explain what he is in this. And

1636
01:36:54,780 --> 01:36:58,110
having watched this video, it's
just the name of the clip. I

1637
01:36:58,110 --> 01:37:02,730
know him too. But I played your
thank you One Hour Photo, okay,

1638
01:37:02,730 --> 01:37:03,420
oh, no

1639
01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:05,670
John C Dvorak: cleaners, or
cleaners.

1640
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:13,200
Adam Curry: I like this guy a
lot. Because he has this very,

1641
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:17,370
this this air of I know exactly
what I'm talking about. But the

1642
01:37:17,370 --> 01:37:21,450
system is so lame and screwed up
that I'm just going to tell you

1643
01:37:21,450 --> 01:37:24,600
guys and do with it what you
want. And I like his demeanor.

1644
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,790
I'll play the intro clip. And
then you can play your clips. My

1645
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:30,300
Unknown: name is Philip
buckholts. I'm I have a PhD in

1646
01:37:30,300 --> 01:37:34,380
biochemistry and molecular
biology. I'm a cancer gene jock.

1647
01:37:34,650 --> 01:37:37,320
Basically, I do cancer genomics
research at the University of

1648
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:41,280
South Carolina. And what that
means is that I'm kind of an

1649
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,220
expert on all the ways that the
human genome can get flooded

1650
01:37:44,220 --> 01:37:47,640
with during your lifetime. And
which of those things cause

1651
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:48,960
cancer and which ones don't?

1652
01:37:49,049 --> 01:37:51,959
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll stop it
there. And if if I feel there's

1653
01:37:51,959 --> 01:37:54,029
anything missing from your
clips, we can play it later.

1654
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,960
John C Dvorak: Well, basically,
the guy did a little research

1655
01:37:58,140 --> 01:38:01,440
just on a screwball notion. And
I think it's playing pretty

1656
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:02,610
well. And clip number one

1657
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,670
Unknown: in in my professional
evaluation of the literature,

1658
01:38:05,670 --> 01:38:08,160
the Pfizer vaccine did a pretty
good job of keeping people out

1659
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:13,260
of the cemetery. But it sucked
at stopping the pandemic. And it

1660
01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:15,600
was the best of sucky options
that we had

1661
01:38:15,690 --> 01:38:17,760
Adam Curry: the guy remind me a
little bit of a young meatloaf

1662
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,010
by the way, did you catch any of
that? Did you? Did you get that

1663
01:38:20,010 --> 01:38:20,700
vibe from him?

1664
01:38:21,059 --> 01:38:26,069
Unknown: No, none at all. Okay,
and I still believe that it was

1665
01:38:26,069 --> 01:38:30,389
deployed, mostly in good faith.
But there were a lot of

1666
01:38:30,389 --> 01:38:34,799
shortcuts taken because the
house was on fire. And we could

1667
01:38:34,799 --> 01:38:37,529
do a better job next time. From
the lessons that we're going to

1668
01:38:37,529 --> 01:38:41,039
learn here. That's my own
personal view of this. But I'm

1669
01:38:41,069 --> 01:38:45,149
also my philosophical bent here
is, I'm sure many of you have

1670
01:38:45,149 --> 01:38:47,849
heard of oxen awesomes razor,
right, choose the simplest of

1671
01:38:47,849 --> 01:38:50,129
explanations. Well, there's
another one called handlines

1672
01:38:50,129 --> 01:38:53,189
razor, which has never attribute
malice to that which can be

1673
01:38:53,189 --> 01:38:55,949
better explained by
incompetence. And so I'm trying

1674
01:38:55,949 --> 01:38:59,399
to be gracious here in many
circumstances, there could be

1675
01:38:59,399 --> 01:39:02,399
malice underneath, but I'm
trying to see just incompetence

1676
01:39:02,399 --> 01:39:07,379
to be gracious. And so the
Pfizer vaccine is contaminated

1677
01:39:07,379 --> 01:39:12,929
with plasmid DNA. It's not just
mRNA. It's got bits of DNA in

1678
01:39:12,929 --> 01:39:18,689
it. This DNA is the DNA vector
that was used as the template

1679
01:39:18,689 --> 01:39:21,299
for the in vitro transcription
reaction when they made the

1680
01:39:21,299 --> 01:39:25,079
mRNA. I know this is true
because I sequenced it in my own

1681
01:39:25,079 --> 01:39:28,379
lab, the vials of Pfizer vaccine
that were given out here in

1682
01:39:28,379 --> 01:39:31,469
Colombia. One of my colleagues
was in charge of that

1683
01:39:31,469 --> 01:39:35,789
vaccination program in the
College of Pharmacy. And for

1684
01:39:35,819 --> 01:39:37,799
reasons that I still don't
understand. He kept every single

1685
01:39:37,799 --> 01:39:41,879
vial. So he had a whole freezer
full of the empty vials. Well,

1686
01:39:41,879 --> 01:39:44,129
the empty vials have a little
tiny bit. And in the bottom of

1687
01:39:44,129 --> 01:39:46,979
them, he gave them all to me.
And I looked at him that we had

1688
01:39:46,979 --> 01:39:50,579
two batches that were given out
here in Colombia. And I checked

1689
01:39:50,579 --> 01:39:55,439
these two batches, and I checked
them by sequencing. And I

1690
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,319
sequenced all the DNA that was
in the vaccine and I can see

1691
01:39:58,319 --> 01:40:00,749
what's in there, and it's
surprised Isn't that there's any

1692
01:40:00,749 --> 01:40:05,039
DNA in there. And you can kind
of work out what it is and how

1693
01:40:05,039 --> 01:40:08,699
it got there. And I'm kind of
alarmed about the possible

1694
01:40:08,759 --> 01:40:10,049
consequences of this.

1695
01:40:10,980 --> 01:40:12,540
Adam Curry: No, I don't know
what your other clips are. So

1696
01:40:12,540 --> 01:40:13,590
I'll just let you continue.

1697
01:40:13,860 --> 01:40:18,840
John C Dvorak: So I would
mention, if you remember our

1698
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:23,490
show, during the swine flu era,
of one of the swine flu

1699
01:40:23,490 --> 01:40:30,000
manufacturing companies actually
had live swine flu viruses in

1700
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,040
the vaccine, they were so
careless with their

1701
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,850
manufacturing, you remember this
guy? Sure do. And it went out

1702
01:40:35,850 --> 01:40:38,040
and all kinds of people ended up
with swine flu because of the

1703
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:42,420
vaccine. And it was like, the
problem is, and I think it's

1704
01:40:42,420 --> 01:40:46,620
kind of elucidated in this guy's
presentation, even though he

1705
01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:51,810
never says this, the fact that
they're, they're held harmless,

1706
01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:54,540
because they've been giving a
leet, they've been giving the

1707
01:40:54,690 --> 01:40:57,360
green light, whatever you put in
there, whatever, you're shooting

1708
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,330
the people, you're you're not
liable. Don't worry about it.

1709
01:41:00,660 --> 01:41:04,920
This is the problem. And that's
why the what he claims is this

1710
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:11,220
careless amount of DNA, which is
the beginning part of this

1711
01:41:11,220 --> 01:41:15,360
system that made the RNA is
still there, because the what's

1712
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,630
the point, we can't get sued,
it's just we just slop this

1713
01:41:18,630 --> 01:41:22,080
stuff out. Who cares? Crank it
out, and wait, if it does damage

1714
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:23,010
too bad.

1715
01:41:23,220 --> 01:41:26,520
Unknown: Here we go part two,
both in terms of human health

1716
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,730
and biology, but you should be
alarmed about the regulatory

1717
01:41:29,730 --> 01:41:33,210
process that allowed it to get
there. So this DNA in my view,

1718
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,860
it could be causing some of the
rare but serious side effects

1719
01:41:37,890 --> 01:41:40,740
like death from cardiac arrest,
or there's a lot of cases now,

1720
01:41:41,550 --> 01:41:46,800
of people having suspicious
death after a vaccine, it's hard

1721
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,170
to prove what caused it is just,
you know, temporarily

1722
01:41:49,170 --> 01:41:56,580
associated. And this DNA is a
plausible mechanism, this DNA

1723
01:41:57,330 --> 01:42:02,460
can and likely will integrate
into the genomic DNA of cells

1724
01:42:02,460 --> 01:42:05,850
that got transfected. With the
vaccine mix. This is just the

1725
01:42:05,850 --> 01:42:08,730
way it works. We do this in the
lab all the time, we take pieces

1726
01:42:08,730 --> 01:42:12,480
of DNA, we mix them up with a
lipid complex, like the Pfizer

1727
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:16,530
vaccine is and we pour it onto
cells and, and a lot of it gets

1728
01:42:16,530 --> 01:42:18,750
into the cells. And a lot of it
gets into the DNA of those

1729
01:42:18,750 --> 01:42:21,240
cells, and it becomes a
permanent fixture of the cell.

1730
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:25,740
It's not just a temporary, a
temporary thing it is in that

1731
01:42:25,740 --> 01:42:30,090
cell and all of its progeny from
now on forevermore. Amen. So

1732
01:42:30,090 --> 01:42:32,910
that's why I'm kind of alarmed
about this DNA being in the

1733
01:42:32,910 --> 01:42:36,300
vaccine, it's, it's, it's
different from RNA because it

1734
01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:40,530
can be permanent. This is a real
hazard for genome modification

1735
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:45,540
of Long live somatic cells like
stem cells. And it could cause

1736
01:42:45,570 --> 01:42:48,270
theoretically, this is all a
theoretical concern, but it's

1737
01:42:48,270 --> 01:42:52,800
pretty reasonable based on solid
molecular biology, that it could

1738
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,830
cause a sustained autoimmune
attack toward that tissue. It's

1739
01:42:55,830 --> 01:43:00,000
also a very real theoretical
risk of future cancer in some

1740
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,540
people, depending on where in
the genome, this foreign piece

1741
01:43:03,540 --> 01:43:07,710
of DNA lands, it can interrupt a
tumor suppressor or activate an

1742
01:43:07,710 --> 01:43:10,950
oncogene. I think it'll be rare,
but I think the risk is not

1743
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:13,680
zero. And it may be high enough
that we are to figure out if

1744
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:14,820
this is happening or not.

1745
01:43:14,940 --> 01:43:18,600
Adam Curry: Yeah, the idea being
if you're getting foreign DNA

1746
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,080
mixed into your body, it's with
you forever, including your kids

1747
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,990
and your grandkids and could be
going on for generations.

1748
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:30,780
John C Dvorak: So this is a this
Chris, he's speaking to I think

1749
01:43:30,780 --> 01:43:33,570
the state legislature as in
they're like, well, we can't

1750
01:43:33,570 --> 01:43:36,720
wait we supposed to do about it.
i There's other stuff, there's

1751
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,510
more detail that he goes into,
but I just wanted to wrap it

1752
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:44,250
with the third clip, which is
his kind of a summary of what we

1753
01:43:44,250 --> 01:43:48,180
have to do. And the main thing
is the obvious, which is clean

1754
01:43:48,180 --> 01:43:52,470
these, these vaccines up and he
then talks about how he thinks

1755
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:58,800
this platform platform is great.
Which means which makes me think

1756
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,260
he's pretty objective about
this, get the DNA

1757
01:44:01,260 --> 01:44:04,920
Unknown: out of the booster, and
all future versions of this

1758
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,330
vaccine. I'm a real fan of this
platform. Okay. I think it has

1759
01:44:09,330 --> 01:44:14,070
the potential to treat cancers.
I really believe that this

1760
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:19,110
platform is revolutionary. And
in your lifetime, there will be

1761
01:44:19,650 --> 01:44:24,060
the mRNA vaccines against
antigens in your unique cancer.

1762
01:44:24,540 --> 01:44:28,950
Okay, and but they gotta get
this problem fixed. Okay. And I

1763
01:44:28,980 --> 01:44:31,890
right now, I think the financial
incentives are too great to just

1764
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:33,300
keep on rolling with it.

1765
01:44:33,690 --> 01:44:37,170
Adam Curry: I wanted to add two
things to this because he went

1766
01:44:37,170 --> 01:44:43,530
into a lot of different things.
The first one is when this first

1767
01:44:43,530 --> 01:44:49,650
came out, we were told over and
over and over again, no you

1768
01:44:49,650 --> 01:44:55,200
conspiracy theorists No, there's
no does not DNA. It's mRNA. It's

1769
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,630
not DNA. It's mRNA. A little

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Unknown: nerdy science here the
central dogma of molecular

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01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,980
Biology is that DNA gets
transcribed into RNA, okay. And

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then RNA gets translated into
protein. This is just how life

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01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:14,850
runs. Why does this matter?
Well, DNA for the purposes of

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01:45:14,850 --> 01:45:19,200
this discussion, DNA is a long
lived information storage

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01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,470
device. Okay, what you were born
with, you're gonna die with and

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01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:26,460
pass on to your kids. DNA lasts
for hundreds of 1000s of years.

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01:45:27,480 --> 01:45:30,480
And it can last for generations
if you pass it on to your kids.

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01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:36,330
Right? So alterations to the
DNA, they stick around. RNA by

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01:45:36,330 --> 01:45:41,820
its nature is temporary. It
doesn't last. And that feature

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of RNA was part of the sales
pitch for the vaccine.

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01:45:44,670 --> 01:45:47,400
Adam Curry: There it is, it was
part of the sales pitch wasn't

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DNA was mRNA.

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01:45:49,410 --> 01:45:53,640
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but there
were right. The mRNA is what is

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supposed to be in this shot, the
D, the D, the DNA in there is

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01:45:58,260 --> 01:46:01,020
just a because it's careless,
sloppy,

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Adam Curry: well, not entirely,
it's a little a little

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different. And this is, I think,
the killer clip,

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Unknown: the way you do RNA
transcription in vitro

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01:46:10,169 --> 01:46:12,869
transcription reactions, you
have to give it a DNA template,

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01:46:13,229 --> 01:46:17,429
okay. And you can give it a DNA
template that is just a

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synthetic piece of DNA, that is
only the instructions to make

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01:46:21,239 --> 01:46:26,729
the RNA. And that's what was
done for getting the emergency

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01:46:26,729 --> 01:46:29,069
use authorization and the
clinical trial. That's called

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01:46:29,069 --> 01:46:33,329
process one, if you look up that
kind of stuff. They made a PCR

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01:46:33,329 --> 01:46:36,449
product of just the bits that
they wanted. And then they did

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01:46:36,449 --> 01:46:38,759
the in vitro transcription and
made a bunch of RNA that there

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01:46:38,759 --> 01:46:42,419
was no plasmid DNA to
contaminate the stuff that was

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01:46:42,449 --> 01:46:46,499
used for the trial. But that,
that making that PCR product

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01:46:46,529 --> 01:46:50,159
doesn't scale, the way that was
necessary to vaccinate the whole

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world. So a cheaper way to scale
up the production of this

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01:46:54,059 --> 01:46:58,049
template is to clone that PCR
product into this plasmid vector

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01:46:58,109 --> 01:47:00,899
that the plasmid vector into
bacteria, and then grow up big

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01:47:00,899 --> 01:47:03,809
vats of bacteria. They make a
lot of the plasmid DNA for you

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01:47:03,839 --> 01:47:07,079
then use that plasmid DNA as the
template to drive this

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01:47:07,079 --> 01:47:11,099
transcription reaction to make
your RNA. And that's where how

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01:47:11,099 --> 01:47:14,789
the contamination ended up in
the production batches, even

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01:47:14,789 --> 01:47:18,419
though it was not in the stuff
that was used for the

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01:47:18,419 --> 01:47:19,709
authorization trials.

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01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:23,160
John C Dvorak: That's that's,
again, again, it was

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contamination. Yeah, no, of

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01:47:24,870 --> 01:47:28,590
Adam Curry: course it was. But
the reason why is the vaccine

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01:47:28,590 --> 01:47:31,980
might have been safer or
completely safe for the

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01:47:31,980 --> 01:47:35,040
emergency youth or use
authorization. But then when

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01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,460
they went into production, they
did it a different way. And that

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01:47:38,460 --> 01:47:39,780
code goes back to what you just

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01:47:39,780 --> 01:47:45,270
John C Dvorak: said to lab
versus field stuff. And then why

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01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:46,350
blew up out here,

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01:47:46,890 --> 01:47:49,260
Adam Curry: don't worry about
it's all good. Not a problem.

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01:47:49,530 --> 01:47:52,770
And the end I don't have I'm not
gonna play clip at the end. The

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01:47:52,770 --> 01:47:56,400
only other thing was interesting
that he said, is that he tested

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01:47:56,460 --> 01:48:00,810
multiple batches of Pfizer, and
he says Maderna had much less

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01:48:00,810 --> 01:48:04,410
DNA and what they had done is
they tried to get rid of the DNA

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01:48:04,410 --> 01:48:07,410
by slicing it slicing it slicing
and just left a lot of bits in

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01:48:07,410 --> 01:48:11,430
there but by his by his own
testimony, it doesn't matter how

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01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:14,640
much is in there as long as it's
in there it through the lipo

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01:48:14,670 --> 01:48:20,040
lipo lipid, lipid nanoparticles,
it will fuse with your own DNA

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01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,950
even if it's just a little bit
he talked about buckshot doesn't

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01:48:22,950 --> 01:48:29,340
really matter. But he said some
doses had much lower DNA amounts

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01:48:29,340 --> 01:48:32,850
in it with so technically less
chance that you'd get it and

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01:48:32,850 --> 01:48:37,860
some had much more very high.
And that might explain the

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01:48:37,860 --> 01:48:41,790
stories we've seen about certain
people who got certain batches

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01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:46,440
having more adverse events. That
was my takeaway from what he was

1833
01:48:46,440 --> 01:48:54,240
saying. So this to me, this is
this is a very big deal. Yeah, I

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01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:59,670
thought so. And they and heads
should roll. Death is gonna

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01:48:59,670 --> 01:49:00,120
happen

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01:49:05,610 --> 01:49:07,800
nothing's gonna happen. Oh, no.

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01:49:09,390 --> 01:49:11,730
John C Dvorak: He says he says
we're on the topic. Since

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01:49:11,730 --> 01:49:14,160
nothing's gonna happen. You
might as well play Fauci in the

1839
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,470
CIA. Oh, yeah. And about this

1840
01:49:16,830 --> 01:49:20,220
Unknown: is gonna happen. Dr.
Anthony Fauci is now accused of

1841
01:49:20,220 --> 01:49:23,190
secretly visiting the CIA's
headquarters during the

1842
01:49:23,190 --> 01:49:27,420
pandemic, where he allegedly
tried to influence the agency's

1843
01:49:27,420 --> 01:49:30,930
official findings in their
investigation into the origins

1844
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:34,260
of the pandemic. That's
according to US Representative

1845
01:49:34,260 --> 01:49:38,070
from Ohio Brad wenstrup, the
chairman of the House Select

1846
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:41,370
Subcommittee on the Coronavirus
pandemic, who described the

1847
01:49:41,370 --> 01:49:44,730
concerning information in a
letter he sent to the inspector

1848
01:49:44,730 --> 01:49:47,310
general of the Department of
Health and Human Services.

1849
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:51,750
Earlier I spoke with physician
and former US ambassador Dr.

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01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:55,680
Jeff Gunter. He's also currently
running for the US Senate in

1851
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,440
Nevada, Dr. Gunther, great to
have you on our show. Thanks so

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01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:02,550
much for coming on as a doc Sir
and an experienced diplomat. How

1853
01:50:02,550 --> 01:50:05,820
do you view the allegations that
Dr. Anthony Fauci attempted to

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01:50:05,820 --> 01:50:08,790
influence the CIA's
investigation into the origins

1855
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:09,720
of COVID-19?

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01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:13,530
I don't give a solution or an
answer, just like Yogi Berra did

1857
01:50:13,530 --> 01:50:18,300
the famous baseball coach. It's
deja vu all over again. None of

1858
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:21,840
this is particularly surprising
to me. During my medical school

1859
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:26,880
years, I was cutting my teeth
during HIV from 83 to 87. I

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01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:31,200
remember Dr. Fauci then, when I
was heading up the US Embassy.

1861
01:50:32,670 --> 01:50:36,690
Thanks to our great President
Donald Trump, I let the team

1862
01:50:36,690 --> 01:50:39,780
know that I believed that this
virus came from a bat to a

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01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:43,740
bottle and somehow got out of
the lab back then. Then when I

1864
01:50:43,740 --> 01:50:48,240
read the emails of various
scientists going and talking to

1865
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:52,200
Fauci before he published that
Article of the proximal origins

1866
01:50:52,410 --> 01:50:56,130
of COVID. In nature, one of the
premier journals, which clearly

1867
01:50:56,130 --> 01:50:59,670
now was a misdirection of the
American public, it's not

1868
01:50:59,670 --> 01:51:04,050
surprising, it's Fauci, deja vu
all over again, it's sad, it's

1869
01:51:04,050 --> 01:51:07,800
disheartening. The American
public deserves a need to know

1870
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,830
the truth about the worst
pandemic the world has ever

1871
01:51:10,830 --> 01:51:11,310
seen.

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01:51:13,410 --> 01:51:17,190
Adam Curry: So also, it's like,
and nothing will happen. Yes.

1873
01:51:18,630 --> 01:51:21,360
Nothing will happen. Yeah. It's
just another story to be

1874
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:25,230
subjugated. Or another story for
this show averted by Taylor

1875
01:51:25,230 --> 01:51:26,280
Swift news.

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01:51:26,970 --> 01:51:28,590
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah,
there's

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01:51:28,590 --> 01:51:30,630
Adam Curry: a second clip gotta
get worse.

1878
01:51:31,980 --> 01:51:34,680
Unknown: View. Are there any
indications of political or

1879
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,980
national security motives behind
the alleged suppression of the

1880
01:51:37,980 --> 01:51:40,830
lab leak theory by public health
authorities?

1881
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,580
It's a fantastic question that
we all know that when you mix

1882
01:51:44,580 --> 01:51:49,560
medicine, with politics, what do
you get? You get politics. It

1883
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,760
was so obvious when it happened.
When COVID came out to me that

1884
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,370
it was a lab leaked and turns
out that it was being funded by

1885
01:51:56,370 --> 01:52:00,990
Fauci So absolutely, absolutely.
They're trying to craft the

1886
01:52:00,990 --> 01:52:05,070
narrative. More people died with
COVID with Joe Biden than they

1887
01:52:05,070 --> 01:52:06,330
did with President Trump.

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01:52:06,389 --> 01:52:09,509
Adam Curry: I love the died with
COVID Doesn't mean you died of

1889
01:52:09,509 --> 01:52:11,369
COVID. But you had COVID.

1890
01:52:11,490 --> 01:52:14,640
Unknown: The jury's still out on
the effectiveness of vaccines.

1891
01:52:14,850 --> 01:52:17,430
They say that it limits
hospitalizations, and severe

1892
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:20,730
illness. There's no evidence to
show that it makes you less

1893
01:52:20,730 --> 01:52:23,910
infectious to the other people.
I just checked the CDC

1894
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:27,510
hospitalizations for COVID right
now in Nevada, they're not

1895
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:31,260
significantly high. deaths are
down. So what does that tell

1896
01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:34,290
you? It tells you that there's
an election coming up, it tells

1897
01:52:34,290 --> 01:52:37,890
you that when you mix politics
with medicine, especially with

1898
01:52:37,890 --> 01:52:40,410
this administration, you get
politics.

1899
01:52:42,750 --> 01:52:45,120
Adam Curry: All right. I'll try
and top it before we take a

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01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:46,410
break. Well, I

1901
01:52:46,410 --> 01:52:50,130
John C Dvorak: have two more
clips. About this about COVID.

1902
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:55,080
Three more COVID clips actually,
I loaded up on COVID Today your

1903
01:52:55,860 --> 01:52:58,110
Adam Curry: it dude you're
you're seething with COVID.

1904
01:53:00,030 --> 01:53:04,590
John C Dvorak: But these are
historical clips. Okay, these

1905
01:53:04,590 --> 01:53:06,600
are from 2021.

1906
01:53:07,590 --> 01:53:08,700
Adam Curry: We love that

1907
01:53:09,420 --> 01:53:12,300
John C Dvorak: when the Delta
was just coming out, and they

1908
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:17,700
were arguing about what to do
about the shot and delta and

1909
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:20,670
Adam Curry: the delta delta
variant. Yes, the Delta verta

1910
01:53:20,670 --> 01:53:21,120
Delta

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01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,760
John C Dvorak: variant and it
was they were besides themselves

1912
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,310
and all kinds of different ways.
They were tying themselves into

1913
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:30,420
knots over the Delta because it
was creating something if you

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01:53:30,420 --> 01:53:34,620
remember, this word is a term
that we forgot. Breakthrough.

1915
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,600
Adam Curry: Oh, breakthrough
infection. Yes, yes. It broke

1916
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,730
through the vaccination. You got

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01:53:41,730 --> 01:53:43,920
John C Dvorak: a vaccine, you
got your booster, you got your

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01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,740
second shot, you got your
booster, and then you got COVID,

1919
01:53:46,770 --> 01:53:50,850
which everybody seems to have
got done. And that at the time,

1920
01:53:50,850 --> 01:53:53,190
the first time he started to
show up these were called

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01:53:53,190 --> 01:53:57,030
breakthroughs. Yeah, and it was
disconcerning Oh, my God have

1922
01:53:57,030 --> 01:54:01,290
another breakthrough. And then
eventually, they stopped using

1923
01:54:01,290 --> 01:54:03,630
the word because it was
meaningless because everybody

1924
01:54:03,630 --> 01:54:07,620
got the shot, they got COVID. So
let's play a couple of these

1925
01:54:07,620 --> 01:54:09,810
historic clips from 2021.

1926
01:54:10,500 --> 01:54:14,790
Unknown: More of the modified
mRNA technology behind Maderna

1927
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:19,920
and Pfizer's COVID vaccines is
how easy it is to update. All

1928
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,830
you have to do is reprogram a
string of genetic

1929
01:54:22,860 --> 01:54:26,850
Adam Curry: code and voila.
Update just like Windows 11

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01:54:26,850 --> 01:54:27,240
could make

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,330
Unknown: a new vaccine tailored
to fight dangerous new strains

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01:54:30,330 --> 01:54:33,900
of the virus. But the booster
shots that the White House wants

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01:54:33,900 --> 01:54:37,530
to roll out next month likely
will not be re engineered

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01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:41,190
against the ultra contagious
Delta very ultra contemplatively

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01:54:41,190 --> 01:54:45,420
urs Angus Chen joined Bob oaks
to talk about why and he started

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01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:48,000
by explaining how the technology
works.

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01:54:48,090 --> 01:54:51,240
The mRNA base vaccines from
Pfizer and Madonna and also the

1938
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,990
Johnson Johnson DNA base vaccine
all contain a string of genetic

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01:54:54,990 --> 01:54:58,650
code based on the original
coronaviruses mycoprotein. Our

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01:54:58,650 --> 01:55:02,010
cells use that code To make this
by protein, and then they build

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01:55:02,010 --> 01:55:04,740
immune molecules that can
neutralize it. The thing is,

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01:55:04,740 --> 01:55:08,520
this string of code is easily
reprogrammed. So vaccine makers

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01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,480
can rewrite it and make it based
on the Delta genetics or any

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01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,180
other variant you might want to
counter. It's also not a big

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01:55:15,180 --> 01:55:17,520
deal for the manufacturing side,
because you don't really have to

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01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,950
change what you're doing to make
that updated vaccine.

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01:55:20,340 --> 01:55:23,970
So if it's that straightforward,
Angus, how come the booster

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01:55:23,970 --> 01:55:26,670
shots are unlikely to be
updated?

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01:55:26,940 --> 01:55:29,460
Well, I spoke with the Harvard I
mean, I'll just Dr. Dan Baruch,

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01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:32,190
about this. And he said,
updating the vaccine should

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01:55:32,220 --> 01:55:35,520
theoretically provide better
protection against Delta. But in

1952
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,910
reality, it probably wouldn't
make a big difference. And

1953
01:55:38,910 --> 01:55:41,610
that's because delta isn't that
different from the ancestral

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01:55:41,610 --> 01:55:44,610
Coronavirus and its physical
shape and form. So the

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01:55:44,610 --> 01:55:47,580
antibodies from the original
vaccine should still work

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01:55:47,580 --> 01:55:51,360
against it. Dr. Brooke thinks
there's another reason why delta

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01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,820
is causing cases among
vaccinated people.

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01:55:54,930 --> 01:55:57,570
Adam Curry: Wow, they've been so
good. You're doing this because

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01:55:57,570 --> 01:56:00,510
it's good to remember how
they've been lying for years

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01:56:00,540 --> 01:56:02,190
years on end

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01:56:02,340 --> 01:56:04,290
John C Dvorak: and coming out
licking themselves.

1962
01:56:04,770 --> 01:56:07,740
Adam Curry: No, I think me I'm
throwing some Taylor Swift news.

1963
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:11,760
People forget. And they want to
forget we've been so traumatized

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01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,130
by this. I think people are
twitching, just listening to

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01:56:14,130 --> 01:56:14,820
these clips.

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John C Dvorak: I like again,
I'll go back to I don't think

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01:56:18,420 --> 01:56:21,600
they're lying. I think they're
dead, sincere and stupid.

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01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:25,320
Adam Curry: Well, yes, dummies
abound. Dr. Brown

1969
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:29,670
John C Dvorak: means no money.
No continue Part Two long clips.

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01:56:30,090 --> 01:56:30,870
Unknown: long one.

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01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,170
Dr. Baruch thinks there's
another reason why delta is

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01:56:34,170 --> 01:56:36,480
causing cases among vaccinated
people.

1973
01:56:36,780 --> 01:56:41,280
The increased breakthroughs with
the Delta variant is probably

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more related to its hyper
infectiousness rather than its

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intrinsic ability to evade

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Adam Curry: antibodies. The
breakthrough

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01:56:49,380 --> 01:56:52,080
Unknown: basically, when you're
infected with a Delta variant,

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01:56:52,110 --> 01:56:55,560
you end up breathing out a lot
more virus than you would have

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01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:59,280
the old virus, it's a lot more
transported in the mass stop

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01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,160
that dismissible as well and
guess people are both more

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01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:06,240
likely to be exposed to it and
be exposed to more of it.

1982
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:11,910
There's even a small benefit
from using an updated vaccine as

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01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:15,210
a booster than why shouldn't it
be developed? And why shouldn't

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01:57:15,210 --> 01:57:16,230
we take it?

1985
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,250
Part of the issue is right now
there are millions of vaccine

1986
01:57:20,250 --> 01:57:24,720
doses in storage across Yeah,
they are effective against the

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01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,900
Delta variance while stocks last
especially when it comes to

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01:57:27,900 --> 01:57:31,590
preventing severe illness or
death in general right now, and

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01:57:31,590 --> 01:57:34,410
might drop public faith in those
doses, which concerns Dr.

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01:57:34,410 --> 01:57:37,080
Benjamin Linus, he's an
epidemiologist at Boston

1991
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:37,800
University stop

1992
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:41,520
John C Dvorak: a second, you
gotta hit what he just said was,

1993
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,730
well, there was a lot of
inventory left. And then if we

1994
01:57:44,730 --> 01:57:48,750
don't give that as the cure for
delta two, it will make people

1995
01:57:48,750 --> 01:57:55,140
lose confidence in that early
shot. Because because it's not

1996
01:57:55,140 --> 01:57:58,920
good enough, and then the
inventory, our shoes will go the

1997
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,860
inventory and people are going
to lose confidence. And that's

1998
01:58:01,860 --> 01:58:05,070
going to make it even slower to
get their first shot. And yeah,

1999
01:58:05,190 --> 01:58:07,680
we can like this. Like, it's
like they're running a game on

2000
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:08,220
the public, you

2001
01:58:08,220 --> 01:58:10,680
Adam Curry: don't want to sell
the new Yeezys until the old

2002
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:11,940
ones are off the shelf.

2003
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,760
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you gotta
get this marketing 101.

2004
01:58:14,970 --> 01:58:16,800
Unknown: I don't know what
message it would give if they

2005
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,950
said, Oh, we have a new highly
specially engineered vaccine for

2006
01:58:19,950 --> 01:58:22,860
Delta. Does that generate
concern that the original

2007
01:58:22,860 --> 01:58:25,170
vaccine didn't work against
delta, which is absolutely not

2008
01:58:25,170 --> 01:58:25,440
true.

2009
01:58:25,500 --> 01:58:28,050
Adam Curry: And I want to remind
people, I think we were pretty

2010
01:58:28,050 --> 01:58:30,840
much doing this deconstruction
when it was taking place. That's

2011
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,180
why we still get notes from
people saying, Man, I'm glad I

2012
01:58:33,180 --> 01:58:36,420
was listening to you guys.
Because we were breaking this

2013
01:58:36,420 --> 01:58:38,850
marketing story down
continuously.

2014
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:41,670
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these are
our old clips.

2015
01:58:42,210 --> 01:58:44,460
Unknown: Linus and other health
experts I spoke with said the

2016
01:58:44,460 --> 01:58:47,520
goal right now is really to
vaccinate as many people as we

2017
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:51,060
can, in the United States and in
the rest of the world, using a

2018
01:58:51,060 --> 01:58:53,970
vaccine that still works is a
better way to do that than

2019
01:58:53,970 --> 01:58:57,660
waiting for an incremental gain
and efficacy that we might get

2020
01:58:57,690 --> 01:58:59,760
from an updated vaccine. When
Angus,

2021
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,930
don't you think that any COVID
booster shot updated or not, is

2022
01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:06,840
going to be greeted with
skepticism from some members of

2023
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:08,430
the public reluctant to take it

2024
01:59:08,460 --> 01:59:12,540
Adam Curry: perhaps those pesky
podcasters might be all over

2025
01:59:12,540 --> 01:59:14,130
this marketing scam?

2026
01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:16,830
Unknown: Yeah, it's definitely
possible. I mean, vaccine

2027
01:59:16,830 --> 01:59:20,130
skepticism has been something
that is what's grown has been

2028
01:59:20,130 --> 01:59:23,910
going on for quite some time.
Oh, yeah. podcasters. I don't

2029
01:59:23,910 --> 01:59:28,290
think a booster shot is going to
change that or do anything to

2030
01:59:28,290 --> 01:59:33,180
really fix that. I think what a
booster shot does do is it helps

2031
01:59:33,180 --> 01:59:36,180
people who might really need
that extra protection to stay

2032
01:59:36,180 --> 01:59:39,780
safe against a Delta variant. I
think what's a more important

2033
01:59:39,780 --> 01:59:42,690
question when it comes to
booster shots is whether or not

2034
01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:46,410
the shots would be better put to
use by sending them, you know,

2035
01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:49,470
around the world or around the
country to people who are

2036
01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:52,890
unvaccinated and want to be
vaccinated but haven't had the

2037
01:59:52,890 --> 01:59:55,590
access or the ability to do that
yet. And I think that's

2038
01:59:55,590 --> 01:59:58,320
something that public health
experts and officials are going

2039
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,140
to continue to grapple with in
Think about for some time.

2040
02:00:01,530 --> 02:00:05,730
That's WBUR is Angus Chen
speaking with Bobux

2041
02:00:06,030 --> 02:00:12,180
Adam Curry: Oost. All right. Can
I Are you done?

2042
02:00:12,899 --> 02:00:15,299
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna be
done. Yeah, I have one more

2043
02:00:15,299 --> 02:00:19,979
thing that did. Similar but it's
about the ivermectin bowl crap

2044
02:00:19,979 --> 02:00:22,409
and I'm going to leave that.
Save that for another show.

2045
02:00:23,099 --> 02:00:25,949
Adam Curry: Good before we take
this break. I think I figured

2046
02:00:25,949 --> 02:00:34,499
out the F 35. Ejection up. I'm
calling an OP now to be so what

2047
02:00:34,499 --> 02:00:40,109
we know is the pilot was very
experienced. He was one of the

2048
02:00:40,109 --> 02:00:41,459
top top pilots.

2049
02:00:42,810 --> 02:00:45,450
John C Dvorak: I know this if
you're gonna do an OP, you want

2050
02:00:45,450 --> 02:00:46,710
your top men?

2051
02:00:46,830 --> 02:00:47,580
Adam Curry: Of course you do.

2052
02:00:48,210 --> 02:00:50,310
John C Dvorak: You know what
some slouches is going to screw

2053
02:00:50,310 --> 02:00:50,910
it up.

2054
02:00:51,300 --> 02:00:58,350
Adam Curry: Right? So he injects
the plane continues to fly until

2055
02:00:58,350 --> 02:01:01,470
it crashes back and we heard all
the things I was on autopilot.

2056
02:01:01,710 --> 02:01:06,480
We had that cool guy. I mean, I
at this point, I'm pretty sure

2057
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:18,210
that the the witness the
eyewitness who saw this guy this

2058
02:01:18,300 --> 02:01:22,230
that he may not have been paid
for but he was in on it. He

2059
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:27,390
would maybe not knowingly shill
the ship was he was the shill.

2060
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,650
So the thing that bothered me
the most on the last episode was

2061
02:01:31,650 --> 02:01:37,740
the 911 call. It's like why are
you why are you not calling HQ.

2062
02:01:38,550 --> 02:01:42,150
Now some of the jet jocks who I
talked to said, Well, he was

2063
02:01:42,150 --> 02:01:45,300
kind of the top guy, so maybe he
would have had to call himself

2064
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:50,700
I'm not quite buying that. But
we did get confirmation from a

2065
02:01:50,700 --> 02:01:54,990
9911 call taker dispatcher says
having listened to the reported

2066
02:01:54,990 --> 02:01:58,470
911 Call from F 35 pod who
objected? I believe it to be a

2067
02:01:58,470 --> 02:02:01,740
legitimate recording of the
incident and I put the this

2068
02:02:01,770 --> 02:02:04,560
anonymous 911 dispatchers.

2069
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:09,180
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I raised
that. Yeah, it's okay. I legit

2070
02:02:09,180 --> 02:02:10,230
so sounds legit.

2071
02:02:10,230 --> 02:02:13,950
Adam Curry: Sounds legit. But
this reminded another one of our

2072
02:02:14,430 --> 02:02:25,980
F jet jocks have a scene from
Top Gun two. And the scene in

2073
02:02:25,980 --> 02:02:29,430
Top Gun two is Tom Cruise has
now rejected from this

2074
02:02:29,430 --> 02:02:34,290
experimental aircraft. Sound
familiar? And he doesn't call

2075
02:02:34,290 --> 02:02:38,670
911. But to make it a little
funnier. He walks into this HC

2076
02:02:38,670 --> 02:02:44,610
diner. Here he is. He's walking
in. The bell was ringing. He

2077
02:02:44,610 --> 02:02:47,550
points and he's looking all
haggard. And all blowed up. And

2078
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:51,120
he's asking for a glass of
water. And you know, it's just a

2079
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:53,490
dine all the people are looking
at him like where did this guy

2080
02:02:53,490 --> 02:03:02,160
come from in his spacesuit? days
drinking his water. Where am I?

2081
02:03:04,890 --> 02:03:07,260
And the little kid says you're
on Earth thinking he's a

2082
02:03:07,260 --> 02:03:12,330
spaceman. So that would be the
equivalent of the 911 call.

2083
02:03:12,810 --> 02:03:17,790
totally unbelievable that you
walk into a diner and with your

2084
02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:21,480
spacesuit on and you're all
dirty from ejection and you know

2085
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:25,470
from explosion, and you're there
give me some water and where am

2086
02:03:25,470 --> 02:03:31,740
I Earth? The next scene. The
very next scene. He is in with I

2087
02:03:31,740 --> 02:03:35,490
think was paid, played by was
named Edie. Whatever he's he's

2088
02:03:35,490 --> 02:03:39,990
the commander. And he's berating
Tom Cruise. He's saying what is

2089
02:03:39,990 --> 02:03:43,170
going on with you? You have all
these commendations. You should

2090
02:03:43,170 --> 02:03:46,290
have been a senator or an
admiral bribe right now. Why are

2091
02:03:46,290 --> 02:03:48,390
you still doing this? Why are
you a captain?

2092
02:03:48,570 --> 02:03:51,720
Unknown: You should be at least
a two star Admiral by now. If

2093
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:52,620
not a senator.

2094
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:54,690
Yeah, here you our

2095
02:03:56,580 --> 02:04:02,070
captain Blaze. It's one of
life's mysteries, sir. This

2096
02:04:02,070 --> 02:04:09,060
isn't a joke. I asked you a
question. Sir. Well, the Navy

2097
02:04:09,060 --> 02:04:12,360
doesn't see it that way. Not
anymore.

2098
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:19,170
These planes you've been testing
captain. One day sooner than

2099
02:04:19,170 --> 02:04:24,030
later. They won't need pilots at
all. pilots need to sleep. He

2100
02:04:24,150 --> 02:04:30,780
take a purse. Pilots that
disobey orders. All you did was

2101
02:04:30,780 --> 02:04:36,120
buy some time for those men out
there. The future is coming. And

2102
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:37,080
you're not in it.

2103
02:04:37,770 --> 02:04:41,760
Adam Curry: I believe this to be
a script. To let people know

2104
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,610
that the biggest problem the
plane wasn't the problem. It was

2105
02:04:44,610 --> 02:04:48,660
the loser pilot. And the
military industrial complex is

2106
02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:52,050
going to come out with something
sooner or later to let us know

2107
02:04:52,050 --> 02:04:55,980
that you know, we really don't
need pilots anymore. We have the

2108
02:04:55,980 --> 02:05:01,050
new F 35. No, it doesn't need a
pilot. I think This was life

2109
02:05:01,050 --> 02:05:01,920
imitates art.

2110
02:05:04,110 --> 02:05:06,450
John C Dvorak: It's an
interesting theory. I know,

2111
02:05:06,450 --> 02:05:09,900
You've been bitching and moaning
for probably 10 years about the

2112
02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:11,730
pilotless airplane this plane.

2113
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:15,960
Adam Curry: Yeah. Hey, if the F
35 pilot can't even keep it

2114
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,990
going, I mean, we shouldn't have
those guys. We should not you

2115
02:05:18,990 --> 02:05:24,570
are not in the future of
aviation. So I don't know. I

2116
02:05:24,570 --> 02:05:28,260
just ran it by the F guys and
they all like, you know, they've

2117
02:05:28,260 --> 02:05:30,630
been they've been trying to get
to this for a long time.

2118
02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:34,170
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,

2119
02:05:34,410 --> 02:05:38,040
Adam Curry: it is a goal. So
we'll see. There's no

2120
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:40,800
John C Dvorak: other member the
one time I was sad, I was sad. I

2121
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:45,930
think it was Nellis in Vegas. I
was getting a tour. And they

2122
02:05:45,930 --> 02:05:49,650
were proud of they had these
drones they're just on display

2123
02:05:49,650 --> 02:05:52,890
and they went on and on about
how great this drones were

2124
02:05:52,890 --> 02:05:59,730
because yeah, I took took the
red flag course whatever it was

2125
02:05:59,730 --> 02:06:03,510
called, I got the sit in. And it
the drones are better because

2126
02:06:03,510 --> 02:06:06,630
there's no you're not going to
kill these. Do these pilots. You

2127
02:06:06,630 --> 02:06:10,110
put a lot of money into one of
these guys and he gets killed it

2128
02:06:10,110 --> 02:06:11,550
that's money down the drain.

2129
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:14,640
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's annoying.

2130
02:06:15,210 --> 02:06:18,660
John C Dvorak: It's annoying,
very pious, not too happy.

2131
02:06:20,100 --> 02:06:22,020
Adam Curry: With that, I want to
thank you for your currency in

2132
02:06:22,020 --> 02:06:24,840
the morning to you the man who
put the seeds in Fauci in the

2133
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:27,300
CIA ladies and gentlemen say
hello to my friend on the other

2134
02:06:27,300 --> 02:06:30,420
end the one and only name on the
ball Mr. Johnson

2135
02:06:34,410 --> 02:06:37,110
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning to you, Mr. Adam curry.

2136
02:06:37,110 --> 02:06:39,360
Also in the morning airship see
boots to the ground feed near

2137
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:42,180
subs in the water and over Dames
and nights out there. And in the

2138
02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:44,670
Adam Curry: morning patrols in
the troll room, sir bemrose

2139
02:06:44,670 --> 02:06:48,360
stopped doing that. People are
trying to count the trolls

2140
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:50,790
before it's time to count the
trolls. I already counted the

2141
02:06:50,790 --> 02:06:55,530
trolls. We had 1925 before we
would have taken our break.

2142
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:57,420
Don't do that. Let me count
them.

2143
02:07:02,430 --> 02:07:07,530
So we have what is the count at
this moment is 1862. But it was

2144
02:07:07,530 --> 02:07:09,720
1925 10 minutes ago.

2145
02:07:10,770 --> 02:07:13,260
John C Dvorak: That is 62 is the
average.

2146
02:07:13,980 --> 02:07:16,110
Adam Curry: But it was above it
was above that average,

2147
02:07:16,110 --> 02:07:18,030
John C Dvorak: but it probably
was always above it.

2148
02:07:18,030 --> 02:07:20,580
Adam Curry: But you know, it has
to sit there like oh, I can

2149
02:07:20,580 --> 02:07:24,360
count the drawers. I've got the
power. And he ruins the whole

2150
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:28,290
count. It's like telling
offline. Yeah, don't do that

2151
02:07:28,290 --> 02:07:29,070
Heisenberg

2152
02:07:29,070 --> 02:07:29,730
John C Dvorak: Principle.

2153
02:07:33,660 --> 02:07:36,150
Adam Curry: Okay, now he's
repenting. I'm sorry, I scared a

2154
02:07:36,150 --> 02:07:39,060
bunch of them off. Yeah, you
did. Hey, those trolls are in

2155
02:07:39,060 --> 02:07:41,640
the troll room troll. room.io
This is where you can listen to

2156
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:44,670
the show live on Thursdays and
Sundays. But it's 24 hours a

2157
02:07:44,670 --> 02:07:49,320
day. And there's always a good
podcast on no agenda. stream.com

2158
02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:52,170
It's all talk no commercials.
Actually, it's not all talk

2159
02:07:52,170 --> 02:07:55,860
because we have Darren Oh, who
does the rock'n'roll priests pre

2160
02:07:55,860 --> 02:07:59,610
show before every no agenda for
two hours. It's where everybody

2161
02:07:59,610 --> 02:08:01,740
hangs out. And you go to the
troll room. There's always

2162
02:08:01,740 --> 02:08:05,610
people sitting around hanging
out. Sometimes they're listening

2163
02:08:05,850 --> 02:08:09,300
to the show. Sometimes they're
not. But during this show they

2164
02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:12,240
are and they're they're trolling
around doing all kinds of

2165
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:15,540
trollee stuff. Some of them even
rage quitting. That's what

2166
02:08:15,540 --> 02:08:17,430
trolls do. Now, you

2167
02:08:17,430 --> 02:08:20,670
John C Dvorak: could also follow
the Taylor Swift Yeah,

2168
02:08:20,700 --> 02:08:24,750
Adam Curry: you just lost a
listener, man. So let's make

2169
02:08:24,750 --> 02:08:26,220
sure we're Polonius. Never.

2170
02:08:26,490 --> 02:08:28,170
John C Dvorak: I was actually
surprised we did the store. I

2171
02:08:28,170 --> 02:08:32,310
mean, I was prepared for it
because I because of that. My

2172
02:08:32,340 --> 02:08:35,790
mention of them not walking out
holding hands was they were

2173
02:08:35,790 --> 02:08:36,120
really,

2174
02:08:36,180 --> 02:08:39,840
Adam Curry: it was a genius
segway I took us from from a

2175
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:44,520
classic clip right into COVID.
Come on. That was programming.

2176
02:08:45,180 --> 02:08:46,770
John C Dvorak: He would love to
be complimented.

2177
02:08:47,190 --> 02:08:49,830
Adam Curry: No, I don't. I'm
complimenting myself. I don't

2178
02:08:49,830 --> 02:08:50,820
need any help from you.

2179
02:08:51,179 --> 02:08:53,069
John C Dvorak: But that's true.
You don't need any help. You

2180
02:08:53,069 --> 02:08:55,439
don't need to be complimented.
But if you feel like

2181
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,510
Adam Curry: it, I mean, do
whatever you want. It's all good

2182
02:08:57,510 --> 02:09:05,670
by me. You can also follow us on
our Mastodon instance, which is

2183
02:09:05,670 --> 02:09:08,790
quite private, since we've been
blocked by everybody else and

2184
02:09:09,150 --> 02:09:11,910
John C Dvorak: everybody. Every
other Mastodon instance thinks

2185
02:09:11,910 --> 02:09:13,230
we suck.

2186
02:09:13,230 --> 02:09:16,260
Adam Curry: Do whatever you
want. We're bad. It's all good.

2187
02:09:16,650 --> 02:09:19,920
You can follow Jhansi DeVore I
could no agenda social.com Adam

2188
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,790
at no agenda social.com. And
we're always there kind of

2189
02:09:23,790 --> 02:09:27,780
hanging out seeing what's going
on and posting stuff and getting

2190
02:09:27,780 --> 02:09:30,600
stories. Sometimes you guys have
good stories. And the memes are

2191
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:33,540
down. It's good. No more No more
memes. I'm happy about this.

2192
02:09:34,140 --> 02:09:34,920
John C Dvorak: I'm not happy.

2193
02:09:36,690 --> 02:09:40,500
Adam Curry: This is a value for
value. Podcast. We came up with

2194
02:09:40,500 --> 02:09:43,920
the name we invented the
concept. We discovered quite by

2195
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:51,600
accident almost 16 years ago
that asking asking people to

2196
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:56,880
subscribe for premium content or
just some low number which does

2197
02:09:56,880 --> 02:10:00,450
not represent the amount of work
that goes into it the value It's

2198
02:10:00,450 --> 02:10:03,150
only going to be a few people
anyway, it's only three 4%. So

2199
02:10:03,150 --> 02:10:06,570
you might as well say, Hey, what
is it worth to you? And we were

2200
02:10:06,570 --> 02:10:09,840
surprised when we saw that
thing, certainly during COVID

2201
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,820
When people like, well, you
know, my life was worth quite a

2202
02:10:11,820 --> 02:10:15,030
lot. Thanks. Appreciate that.
I'm gonna give you more than

2203
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:19,140
five bucks. And that's how we've
been running it. And we'll be

2204
02:10:19,140 --> 02:10:24,900
celebrating 16 years coming up
in October, around October, I

2205
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:27,360
think the end of October the
20th or something?

2206
02:10:28,410 --> 02:10:31,320
John C Dvorak: Yeah, at the very
beginning, we were suckered by

2207
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:36,480
the notion that if Joey didn't
blame you didn't last long.

2208
02:10:36,990 --> 02:10:39,540
Which was the idea that well, if
you're going to, you know, I

2209
02:10:39,540 --> 02:10:43,590
think we had, I don't know how
many 1000 people probably 50.

2210
02:10:43,620 --> 02:10:49,230
Maybe at the most Yeah. But if
you had 50,000 people, and they

2211
02:10:49,230 --> 02:10:50,550
all gave two bucks,

2212
02:10:50,610 --> 02:10:55,020
Adam Curry: we were not we were
driving Lambos $1,000 a month,

2213
02:10:55,050 --> 02:10:56,610
in our mind, we had Lambos.

2214
02:10:57,930 --> 02:11:00,750
John C Dvorak: That's a lot of
money if you know, and two bucks

2215
02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:04,440
is cheap. So the 50,000 people
would say, oh, it's only two

2216
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:09,810
bucks. So I'm going to as if
50,000 People are going to pay

2217
02:11:09,810 --> 02:11:13,590
two bucks, 10 bucks, no buy
depth, no bucks, that they'll do

2218
02:11:13,590 --> 02:11:17,520
that. No, no, it's not even
close to possible. And then we

2219
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:20,610
started noticing that people
would giving their favorite

2220
02:11:20,610 --> 02:11:24,120
numbers, they were just making
up numbers numerology was some

2221
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:27,480
stories involved on this number,
you know this, and that means to

2222
02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:30,630
this to that to my wife, or
whatever. And we realized that

2223
02:11:30,990 --> 02:11:35,250
open ended is the way to do it.
Yeah. And forget these little,

2224
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:38,040
you know, the idea that
everyone's going to chip in

2225
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:39,930
because they don't know never
will.

2226
02:11:40,410 --> 02:11:42,420
Adam Curry: You know what's
interesting, I've been I've

2227
02:11:42,420 --> 02:11:45,360
course follow the the slow
collapse of the podcast,

2228
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:49,980
industrial complex kit, your
favorite thing to do? Yes. And

2229
02:11:50,130 --> 02:11:54,660
so potremmo is a Swedish
company. And they raised a lot

2230
02:11:54,660 --> 02:11:58,890
of venture capital, like 160
million euros, and they've gone

2231
02:11:58,890 --> 02:12:01,680
all around Europe, and they're
buying up all the podcasts,

2232
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,830
buying up all the podcasts, and
putting them behind the paywall.

2233
02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:10,500
And so now there's a problem.
And the problem so they get see

2234
02:12:10,500 --> 02:12:13,500
the problem already? Well, well,
problem one is, so they had to

2235
02:12:13,500 --> 02:12:18,300
convert a number of people from
the free podcast, they're not

2236
02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:21,360
free, but open and available
with ads or whatever they were

2237
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:25,230
doing, or No, I don't know what
they're doing to pay money. So I

2238
02:12:25,230 --> 02:12:27,870
think that they literally are
doing five euros a month for

2239
02:12:27,870 --> 02:12:32,580
their entire offering. But now
they can't get any new people

2240
02:12:32,580 --> 02:12:35,730
in. Because they have no product
that is open.

2241
02:12:36,150 --> 02:12:38,400
John C Dvorak: It's not
discoverable Exactly. Ever

2242
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:42,060
ability is the top thing you
need, especially in new media.

2243
02:12:42,090 --> 02:12:45,930
Adam Curry: Exactly. And so they
have to do like in person

2244
02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:49,710
appearances and set up a tent
and do the show from a from a

2245
02:12:49,710 --> 02:12:55,680
market, a market square. And
then to get people interested in

2246
02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:58,350
the show, you can't you can't
get in, of course, they only got

2247
02:12:58,530 --> 02:13:02,130
maybe 5% of the people went
from, from you know, hey, this

2248
02:13:02,130 --> 02:13:04,620
is a cool product or listen to
an ad or I don't think anyone

2249
02:13:04,620 --> 02:13:07,920
was doing value for value to
five euros a month, which by the

2250
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:12,900
way is the first thing to go.
When things get tight. You with

2251
02:13:12,900 --> 02:13:16,290
us? It's like people come and
go, like I'm in it and then I

2252
02:13:16,290 --> 02:13:19,440
don't listen for a while man
overboard. And then oh man, I

2253
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:22,920
really feel nervous. I don't I
feel jittery. I gotta listen to

2254
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:26,250
no agenda and get get a fix. And
then people come back, you know,

2255
02:13:26,460 --> 02:13:29,040
give give back the value when
you feel like it when you're

2256
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:29,790
ready for it.

2257
02:13:29,940 --> 02:13:31,950
John C Dvorak: However, a lot of
people that haven't come back

2258
02:13:31,950 --> 02:13:32,910
from what I can tell.

2259
02:13:33,780 --> 02:13:37,050
Adam Curry: Now they come back.
A lot of people come back. They

2260
02:13:37,050 --> 02:13:37,380
do.

2261
02:13:38,219 --> 02:13:39,689
John C Dvorak: Or anonymous
lesbian.

2262
02:13:40,139 --> 02:13:43,199
Adam Curry: Ghost that was that
was your handler? I don't know.

2263
02:13:43,829 --> 02:13:45,689
She was your contact.

2264
02:13:46,019 --> 02:13:48,629
John C Dvorak: She moved to New
York. Now there. Well. Now

2265
02:13:48,629 --> 02:13:52,979
there's your answer, isn't it?
That is the answer. Surrounded

2266
02:13:52,979 --> 02:13:57,539
by the milieu. Yeah, the milieu
is more powerful than the show.

2267
02:13:58,830 --> 02:14:02,430
Adam Curry: So we only ask for
value to be returned. Whenever

2268
02:14:02,430 --> 02:14:05,190
you feel that you've received
enough value and how you do it

2269
02:14:05,220 --> 02:14:08,640
is up to you. We do have three
categories time, talent, and

2270
02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:12,240
treasure. And we have a lot of
people putting in a lot of time,

2271
02:14:12,420 --> 02:14:16,950
you know, writing us reports and
corresponding with us, going out

2272
02:14:16,950 --> 02:14:20,250
hitting people in the mouth, or
organizing meetups. There's lots

2273
02:14:20,250 --> 02:14:23,670
of things you can do with your
time talent is fantastic when

2274
02:14:23,670 --> 02:14:26,790
you see what the artists are
doing, especially since i i was

2275
02:14:26,790 --> 02:14:31,320
moaning about the use of AI. But
the artists have finally come

2276
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:34,740
back and started to do stuff by
hand and it with it with their

2277
02:14:34,740 --> 02:14:40,650
tools not relying on the crutch
of a copying machine to do stuff

2278
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:44,430
that makes it all look very
pretty, but makes everything

2279
02:14:44,430 --> 02:14:48,720
subsequently boringly pretty and
they're like drones like

2280
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:54,270
non-playing characters in a row.
And Paul couture artists number

2281
02:14:54,270 --> 02:15:00,420
one number one on the on the no
agenda Art Generator. He nailed

2282
02:15:00,420 --> 02:15:06,000
it. He had such a great piece.
Now we did it. We did have some

2283
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:09,240
discussion about things. We
looked at a number of pieces.

2284
02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:15,000
But this cautiousness episode
may cause sudden death. I think

2285
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:17,520
we I think was good at warned
people can make a lot of people

2286
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:21,930
who said, Hey, man, I'm not
dead, but it really freaked my

2287
02:15:21,930 --> 02:15:25,770
dog out. Or hey, man, I have a
headache now because of that

2288
02:15:25,770 --> 02:15:29,520
tone that you played.
Apparently, no, no one died. No

2289
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:30,120
one died.

2290
02:15:30,630 --> 02:15:33,060
John C Dvorak: And no one got a
headache from it. No one said he

2291
02:15:33,060 --> 02:15:34,980
got a headache. They said

2292
02:15:35,130 --> 02:15:37,650
Adam Curry: he said he got a
headache. And it was it was a

2293
02:15:37,650 --> 02:15:42,060
cool looking piece of high
frequencies. It had the little

2294
02:15:42,090 --> 02:15:47,100
antenna there was it was a fun
little warning sticker. Yeah.

2295
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:47,220
And

2296
02:15:47,220 --> 02:15:49,380
John C Dvorak: it was different.
It was totally alien to what

2297
02:15:49,380 --> 02:15:52,200
we'd normally been doing. Yeah.
Which is why we want some

2298
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:56,730
variety in this. This is extreme
variety. is a sign that kind of

2299
02:15:56,730 --> 02:16:01,110
sign that you go to a sign
maker. Do highway signs.

2300
02:16:01,650 --> 02:16:03,480
Adam Curry: Exactly. Yeah.

2301
02:16:03,540 --> 02:16:04,860
John C Dvorak: And then this is
very different.

2302
02:16:05,730 --> 02:16:07,980
Adam Curry: That you'd like the
melon girl which I'm sure you

2303
02:16:07,980 --> 02:16:11,430
use in the newsletter. Use the
the melon grow, which I

2304
02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:12,930
understand why you'd like that
piece.

2305
02:16:13,590 --> 02:16:15,630
John C Dvorak: That's a good
piece. It's a girl holding a

2306
02:16:15,630 --> 02:16:19,440
melon. Yes. What more did you
want from a piece? This is

2307
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:21,720
really Oh, eight on the melon.

2308
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:27,060
Adam Curry: We looked at the
human mulch from damage that can

2309
02:16:27,060 --> 02:16:30,660
happen. Yeah, but you know what?
It wasn't an AI piece. That's

2310
02:16:30,660 --> 02:16:32,880
what I liked. Like Oh, thanks.
You did some work. It just

2311
02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:38,340
wasn't what we wanted didn't
quite work. Damn Kenny Ben also

2312
02:16:38,340 --> 02:16:43,320
did the Chicago tent. I think
the the clown part is what

2313
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:45,660
didn't make that one work.
Because you know, we know who he

2314
02:16:45,660 --> 02:16:49,710
is. Remember because this was
based on the base camp tents in

2315
02:16:49,710 --> 02:16:55,410
Chicago with with the asylum
seekers. And she made a circus

2316
02:16:55,410 --> 02:16:56,190
tent like a

2317
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:59,790
John C Dvorak: Chicago on it.
Yeah, it does say Chicago on it.

2318
02:16:59,970 --> 02:17:03,600
Tent City. Doesn't say you said
what doesn't work to clown

2319
02:17:03,600 --> 02:17:04,260
there's no clown.

2320
02:17:04,559 --> 02:17:07,529
Adam Curry: It was a circus tent
like clown world type type deal.

2321
02:17:07,709 --> 02:17:11,129
To me. It was confusing. It
didn't quite show.

2322
02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:12,870
John C Dvorak: Oh no, it didn't
work at all.

2323
02:17:14,010 --> 02:17:15,570
Adam Curry: Thanks. That's what
I'm trying to say it didn't

2324
02:17:15,570 --> 02:17:19,020
work. You lie. You

2325
02:17:19,020 --> 02:17:22,890
John C Dvorak: have a new guy
that obviously showed up. pet

2326
02:17:22,890 --> 02:17:26,670
rocks or pet racks who did put
our pictures on the save you?

2327
02:17:26,670 --> 02:17:31,230
That's an automatic? No. So
forget it. Yeah, we don't we

2328
02:17:31,230 --> 02:17:36,300
stopped doing that and show 200
I think yeah, the first year of

2329
02:17:36,390 --> 02:17:41,040
have no agenda art. Yeah, it
became Nasher when Randy Asher

2330
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:44,430
and Paul couture were doing it
pretty much by themselves. It

2331
02:17:44,430 --> 02:17:46,560
was nothing but pictures of us

2332
02:17:46,589 --> 02:17:50,069
Adam Curry: in general. We don't
like pictures of people. I mean,

2333
02:17:50,069 --> 02:17:53,009
really, generally some and
certainly not politicians. I can

2334
02:17:53,009 --> 02:17:56,669
already see. You know, someone's
done. Justin Trudeau is Hitler.

2335
02:17:56,699 --> 02:17:58,229
It's just not Not gonna happen.

2336
02:17:58,620 --> 02:18:01,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And it's
and it's that's a cliche. Yeah.

2337
02:18:01,770 --> 02:18:04,320
Adam Curry: You'd like the Burma
Shave, which was from Parker

2338
02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:04,890
Polly.

2339
02:18:05,309 --> 02:18:07,199
John C Dvorak: It would have
been better if it had some punch

2340
02:18:07,199 --> 02:18:10,439
line. At the end, it didn't have
a punch line. Exactly. It would

2341
02:18:10,439 --> 02:18:13,529
have said something something
something no agenda be the way

2342
02:18:13,529 --> 02:18:16,739
that model should be. I also
like to train No, but that's

2343
02:18:16,739 --> 02:18:20,099
just a pure evergreen piece in
probably does have some AI in

2344
02:18:20,099 --> 02:18:20,429
it.

2345
02:18:20,490 --> 02:18:24,870
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's pretty.
It's pretty piece that is

2346
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:26,790
definitely an evergreen
networks, of course,

2347
02:18:26,820 --> 02:18:32,700
professionals. But just looking
at the overview. You can see

2348
02:18:32,700 --> 02:18:34,800
John C Dvorak: it was a good
selection. Yeah. And I thought

2349
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:36,810
there were at least three or
four pieces we could have used

2350
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:37,530
now scroll,

2351
02:18:37,590 --> 02:18:41,610
Adam Curry: scroll down, like to
the almost to the bottom of that

2352
02:18:41,610 --> 02:18:45,960
page and go look at the
submissions for 1591. And that's

2353
02:18:45,990 --> 02:18:50,970
and you see the difference.
Everything AI on that page. And

2354
02:18:50,970 --> 02:18:56,610
it's been becomes boring. You
know, and when people use their,

2355
02:18:56,910 --> 02:18:58,410
their, their God given

2356
02:18:58,710 --> 02:19:01,230
John C Dvorak: 5091 Is the
selection sucks.

2357
02:19:01,260 --> 02:19:03,510
Adam Curry: Yeah. If although
everything's pretty and

2358
02:19:03,510 --> 02:19:04,560
everything's you know, I

2359
02:19:04,559 --> 02:19:06,539
John C Dvorak: don't even think
that's true. Looking back at it.

2360
02:19:06,569 --> 02:19:07,019
Yeah.

2361
02:19:07,080 --> 02:19:11,070
Adam Curry: But and this is this
is this is the danger. Well, I

2362
02:19:11,070 --> 02:19:15,870
have some I have some fun AI
stuff we can talk about later.

2363
02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:21,840
We can fight over it. But thank
you very much, Sir Paul couture,

2364
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:26,010
who of course also runs and has
set up and run for my goodness,

2365
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:29,040
how many years now? The the Art
Generator. And how many years

2366
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:33,150
I've been running this but well
over 12 years, I would say no

2367
02:19:33,150 --> 02:19:37,740
agenda art generator.com You can
see all of these pieces of art

2368
02:19:37,740 --> 02:19:41,010
at at norgine Art generator.com
Or get a modern podcast app.

2369
02:19:41,010 --> 02:19:44,880
You'll need it eventually. Don't
worry, etc. Google podcast shut

2370
02:19:44,880 --> 02:19:45,300
down.

2371
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:48,810
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that
was expected. Yeah. Yeah,

2372
02:19:48,839 --> 02:19:51,569
Adam Curry: they like everything
shutting down.

2373
02:19:52,199 --> 02:19:55,199
John C Dvorak: Well, they Google
does that routinely. They take

2374
02:19:55,199 --> 02:19:58,409
something and it's just somebody
goes over the numbers as well.

2375
02:19:58,409 --> 02:20:01,259
Where are we? Why are we doing
this? And now they're gonna well

2376
02:20:01,259 --> 02:20:03,899
maybe it's good. I'd say it was
a good idea to time as a loss

2377
02:20:03,899 --> 02:20:08,549
leader, he gets people like us.
Nah, screw it, shut it down move

2378
02:20:08,549 --> 02:20:09,299
it to this

2379
02:20:09,570 --> 02:20:12,210
Adam Curry: was like reader.
They also don't like RSS because

2380
02:20:12,210 --> 02:20:16,020
it's open, freely available
distributed. And so now they're

2381
02:20:16,050 --> 02:20:19,800
now they're like, can we be more
like apple? No like Spotify

2382
02:20:19,830 --> 02:20:26,370
because now they're moving the
podcasts into YouTube music. And

2383
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:31,110
here's what that's telling
podcasters Yeah, man, you will

2384
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:35,310
ingest your RSS feed. So they
just want you to upload to the

2385
02:20:35,310 --> 02:20:40,050
yet to them to YouTube so that
they can you know, sell ads and

2386
02:20:40,050 --> 02:20:43,860
give you nothing or whatever it
is they do. So don't do that.

2387
02:20:43,860 --> 02:20:46,560
Don't be like, don't be like
YouTube and Google, go to

2388
02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:49,590
podcast. app.com got a modern
podcast app, you won't regret

2389
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:53,700
it. From the treasurer category.
We want to thank our executive

2390
02:20:53,700 --> 02:20:56,220
and Associate Executive
producers who have supported us

2391
02:20:56,220 --> 02:20:59,250
today and we see right off the
bat this must be an instant

2392
02:20:59,250 --> 02:21:03,060
night you have the note William
rollin from Spokane, Washington

2393
02:21:03,390 --> 02:21:06,510
with a cool grand John what does
he say?

2394
02:21:07,710 --> 02:21:11,130
John C Dvorak: This is a double
award request. He starts off ITM

2395
02:21:12,060 --> 02:21:16,890
the enclosed $1,000 Check is for
my wife's Dame hood and I think

2396
02:21:16,890 --> 02:21:20,610
Jays got her on there. But
double check if you want to be

2397
02:21:20,640 --> 02:21:24,960
awarded posthumously as she died
of liver cancer on July 9.

2398
02:21:25,019 --> 02:21:29,309
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.
That's terrible. Yes. Yeah, we

2399
02:21:29,310 --> 02:21:31,920
John C Dvorak: had discussed
Dame hood in previous months and

2400
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:36,390
she wanted to be called Dame a
puma. of the Eastern Washington

2401
02:21:36,390 --> 02:21:42,270
chasms. She would like shrimp
and grits at the round table and

2402
02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:47,700
love the F cancer in any
Sharpton jingle. Maybe we can

2403
02:21:47,700 --> 02:21:52,080
accommodate that in a minute.
For myself. It seems to $1,000

2404
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:55,680
threshold for me passed
unnoticed last year. See

2405
02:21:55,680 --> 02:22:00,840
accounting below. I wish to be
knighted, sir Tigger, max of the

2406
02:22:00,870 --> 02:22:08,400
Inslee, Eastern Washington
archipelago. Okay, I request I

2407
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:13,950
request White Castle hamburgers.
And Kirkland Bordeaux at the

2408
02:22:13,950 --> 02:22:18,360
roundtable. No jingles no karma
for me. A shout out to Sir

2409
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:22,080
Donald of the fire bottles who
hit us in the mouth. Oh, there

2410
02:22:22,080 --> 02:22:26,010
you go. He's in Spokane. He hit
us in the mouth in 2017. And

2411
02:22:26,010 --> 02:22:30,090
William Rowland is in Spokane
Valley along with Sir Donald and

2412
02:22:31,860 --> 02:22:35,670
sorry for your loss. And thank
you a lot for this. This note

2413
02:22:35,670 --> 02:22:36,600
and donation. Yes.

2414
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:41,010
Adam Curry: And we have both of
you on the list for Nate for

2415
02:22:41,010 --> 02:22:44,400
night and Daming. And it was
Kirkland Chardonnay. Was that

2416
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:48,720
the No no, the Kirkland Bordeaux
Bordeaux I'm sorry. Because

2417
02:22:49,260 --> 02:22:52,950
Bordeaux Okay, all right. Yes,
we have that went to play the

2418
02:22:52,950 --> 02:22:57,930
full respect for for your NDF
cancer and the F camps or for

2419
02:22:57,930 --> 02:23:07,110
your posthumous date getting
lunch at AAA

2420
02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:17,280
Unknown: the tortoise in the
race, Kim Kardashian Weaver, ESP

2421
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:24,780
IICT they are all Jide ESP ICT
there's no real conference with

2422
02:23:24,780 --> 02:23:39,360
this we must resist we must we
must and we will much about that

2423
02:23:46,500 --> 02:23:53,820
Adam Curry: you've got karma and
well you might as well do this

2424
02:23:53,820 --> 02:23:56,880
next one is to double up karma
but this is a totally for you to

2425
02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:58,560
read. Oh is it?

2426
02:23:59,279 --> 02:24:03,119
John C Dvorak: Yeah. This I just
have the Brooklyn New York I

2427
02:24:03,119 --> 02:24:05,309
don't have anything is it says
3333

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02:24:05,580 --> 02:24:06,420
Adam Curry: What is the name?

2429
02:24:06,449 --> 02:24:11,249
John C Dvorak: Oh you mean from
total metal. And brooklyn new

2430
02:24:11,249 --> 02:24:15,599
york total metal resource Inc.
That's the place to go if you

2431
02:24:15,659 --> 02:24:26,159
have any metal needs 333 33 It's
got karma Robin good business

2432
02:24:26,159 --> 02:24:27,419
total metal resource

2433
02:24:27,449 --> 02:24:29,699
Adam Curry: Inc. Now if you need
some metal you know where to go.

2434
02:24:30,179 --> 02:24:32,879
You need some metal you might
need some metal. Christopher

2435
02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:38,009
Devon is in Brooklyn, New York.
Hey, they should visit Hey

2436
02:24:38,039 --> 02:24:41,879
Chris, if he needs some metal
it's in your hood man. Please

2437
02:24:41,879 --> 02:24:44,669
give me jobs Carmen been out of
work since May 1. Please call

2438
02:24:44,669 --> 02:24:48,509
out Australian Brian of Hell's
Kitchen. And Greg the socialite

2439
02:24:48,509 --> 02:24:57,119
from Connecticut as D bag. Give
him both a D bag. Could you also

2440
02:24:57,149 --> 02:25:00,899
both get them to to the head
twice. There's consequences of

2441
02:25:00,899 --> 02:25:05,639
being D bags Okay,

2442
02:25:06,300 --> 02:25:07,530
John C Dvorak: using a lot of
ammo

2443
02:25:07,560 --> 02:25:09,210
Adam Curry: yeah wasting ammo

2444
02:25:10,469 --> 02:25:13,469
John C Dvorak: so here we go now
we've already we've already gone

2445
02:25:13,469 --> 02:25:17,279
to Associate Executive Producer
here and that one went fast.

2446
02:25:17,489 --> 02:25:21,479
That was quick to Ramsey Kane
shows up from Brookfield

2447
02:25:21,479 --> 02:25:23,339
Wisconsin no stranger so

2448
02:25:23,340 --> 02:25:26,700
Adam Curry: no stranger. Didn't
he used to do the CDs? No

2449
02:25:26,700 --> 02:25:27,480
agenda? Yes, he

2450
02:25:27,480 --> 02:25:31,710
John C Dvorak: was a CD guy.
Yeah, he had a lot he was he

2451
02:25:31,800 --> 02:25:37,110
still has I still chat with him
once in a while. 23456 So Ramsey

2452
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:43,290
Kane here with Eagan. direct.com
that's e gun. direct.com What is

2453
02:25:43,290 --> 02:25:47,460
it? Firearms, accessories,
ammunition and more. Visit our

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02:25:47,460 --> 02:25:51,810
butler Wisconsin location or
online at E gun direct.com Best

2455
02:25:51,810 --> 02:25:57,600
Price. PS John, we got the snail
farm up and running. Thanks for

2456
02:25:57,600 --> 02:25:58,440
the advice.

2457
02:25:58,890 --> 02:26:00,450
Adam Curry: Oh, what advice did
you give him?

2458
02:26:01,380 --> 02:26:05,760
John C Dvorak: Probably start a
snail farm is gotta go

2459
02:26:05,760 --> 02:26:07,500
Adam Curry: maybe a business of
the future.

2460
02:26:08,790 --> 02:26:12,180
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Hey, it's
good stuff.

2461
02:26:12,210 --> 02:26:15,420
Adam Curry: Sir. Neil's den
Ollie shake is in Breda the

2462
02:26:15,420 --> 02:26:21,510
Netherlands. 232 3333 ITM sir.
Neilston Ollie shake from the

2463
02:26:21,510 --> 02:26:25,530
great Berg gondek state of
Brabant here, my smokin hot pre

2464
02:26:25,530 --> 02:26:29,310
milk is pregnant with our cute
little human resource for 33

2465
02:26:29,310 --> 02:26:33,900
weeks. Can I have an L g y karma
for my girls? No agenda equals

2466
02:26:33,900 --> 02:26:40,560
outstanding. How do you've got
karma?

2467
02:26:41,910 --> 02:26:44,910
John C Dvorak: Oh, you have SD G
in Oakland California. tu tu tu

2468
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:50,520
tu tu a row of ducks. But first
ones, but no note so a double up

2469
02:26:50,520 --> 02:26:51,510
karma will work.

2470
02:26:53,010 --> 02:27:01,740
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
Sir Jeremy John Patti Oakville,

2471
02:27:01,740 --> 02:27:06,810
Ontario, Canada. That row of
ducks to 2222 wants to stay safe

2472
02:27:06,810 --> 02:27:08,790
as a jingle in the morning,
gents. I leave today a day

2473
02:27:08,790 --> 02:27:12,090
before my 61st birthday on
birthday on the 29th for a four

2474
02:27:12,090 --> 02:27:16,260
week motorcycle trip of the
Iberian Peninsula, please Oh,

2475
02:27:16,260 --> 02:27:17,760
that'd be fun. Yes. And flesh it

2476
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:19,170
John C Dvorak: out for wild
pigs.

2477
02:27:21,060 --> 02:27:22,890
Adam Curry: Is that Is it
rampant on the Iberian

2478
02:27:22,890 --> 02:27:23,430
Peninsula? Oh,

2479
02:27:23,430 --> 02:27:25,530
John C Dvorak: no. And that's
where they grow a lot of pigs.

2480
02:27:26,310 --> 02:27:27,090
Please accept this

2481
02:27:27,090 --> 02:27:29,010
Adam Curry: donation and keep up
the excellent media

2482
02:27:29,010 --> 02:27:31,860
deconstruction during my
absence. It's unlikely I'll be

2483
02:27:31,860 --> 02:27:36,120
able to listen until my return.
Sir Jeremy Tom potty. Oakville,

2484
02:27:36,120 --> 02:27:39,780
Ontario, Canada Navia. Will you
please send in a donation when

2485
02:27:39,780 --> 02:27:42,510
you're back? And let us know
that you're saying hey, go.

2486
02:27:44,700 --> 02:27:50,850
John C Dvorak: Joe Clemens is in
Anna Texas. Two, two 2.17. First

2487
02:27:50,850 --> 02:27:55,260
time donor long time blah, blah,
blah. I have listened since show

2488
02:27:55,260 --> 02:28:00,000
number one or before the daily
source code please de douche me.

2489
02:28:01,650 --> 02:28:07,800
You use deed deuced isn't a long
wait. Yeah, to donate.

2490
02:28:09,570 --> 02:28:13,440
Adam Curry: That 16 years. Well,
thank you for sending the value.

2491
02:28:14,010 --> 02:28:14,850
We appreciate it.

2492
02:28:15,720 --> 02:28:18,090
John C Dvorak: whatever it's
worth, the donation is actually

2493
02:28:18,090 --> 02:28:22,290
17 I guess the donation is in
honor of my daughter Natalie

2494
02:28:22,290 --> 02:28:27,810
Clemens, who passed away on
another sad note. On this day in

2495
02:28:27,810 --> 02:28:32,310
2017. Oh, that's where this came
from. Yeah. From the devastating

2496
02:28:32,310 --> 02:28:37,290
genetic illness cyber fibrosis
which is a terrible product

2497
02:28:37,290 --> 02:28:42,240
cyber cystic cystic guy said
cyber wow, I think I dreamed up

2498
02:28:42,240 --> 02:28:46,560
a new thing. That's the show
title. Cystic fibrosis, which is

2499
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:52,110
the worst impact you to make in
the universe is beyond measure.

2500
02:28:52,260 --> 02:28:55,230
Thank you. Thank you. One
example is inspiring producers

2501
02:28:55,230 --> 02:28:59,430
to organize and attend meetups.
Our household is now decorated

2502
02:28:59,430 --> 02:29:02,790
with artwork photography from
other producers we meet met at a

2503
02:29:02,790 --> 02:29:07,470
meet up less interesting as a
petition signed member of

2504
02:29:07,470 --> 02:29:11,670
architects and engineers for 911
Truth Well good for you. That's

2505
02:29:11,700 --> 02:29:16,140
got the websites at
911 truth.org I request this

2506
02:29:16,140 --> 02:29:20,490
spectacular WT C seven world go
away clip followed by a two

2507
02:29:20,490 --> 02:29:24,450
today head. I do request karma
for all producers in grief.

2508
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:28,170
Sincerely, Joe Clemens and Anna
Texas.

2509
02:29:28,200 --> 02:29:30,360
Adam Curry: I think I've seen
pictures of his house during a

2510
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:34,290
meet up it is indeed quite quite
the shrine. Really. It's it's

2511
02:29:34,290 --> 02:29:41,310
quite fantastic. And did you see
that RFK Jr. was on some

2512
02:29:41,310 --> 02:29:46,740
mainstream, like interview show
and and he said you know he was

2513
02:29:46,740 --> 02:29:50,880
like well, you're 911 conspiracy
theorists in RFK is like no no,

2514
02:29:50,910 --> 02:29:53,430
I don't know much about at all
really. But I do know that

2515
02:29:53,460 --> 02:29:57,420
building seven. Just kind of
nothing fell on it and the guy's

2516
02:29:57,420 --> 02:30:00,270
like, yes, it did. Building One
and Two fell on it. didn't know

2517
02:30:00,270 --> 02:30:03,570
my office was there? No, it
didn't fall and so now now he's

2518
02:30:03,570 --> 02:30:06,420
a 911 truther just expand the OP

2519
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:12,330
John C Dvorak: wherever they've
hosted this show, now he turned

2520
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:12,870
No,

2521
02:30:13,200 --> 02:30:17,220
Adam Curry: no of course not.
No, we're not used to it he had

2522
02:30:17,220 --> 02:30:21,270
some outro disclaimer though of
course not can't to can't have

2523
02:30:21,270 --> 02:30:24,930
John C Dvorak: that. Kennedy had
an office in the building seven

2524
02:30:24,930 --> 02:30:25,320
either

2525
02:30:25,320 --> 02:30:27,630
Adam Curry: in in or near in in
or near it. I'm not sure which

2526
02:30:27,630 --> 02:30:31,410
one. Anyway, Joe, thank you very
much. I pray for you. Well, we

2527
02:30:31,410 --> 02:30:31,590
need

2528
02:30:31,590 --> 02:30:33,210
John C Dvorak: to pull it

2529
02:30:37,830 --> 02:30:43,020
Unknown: out you've got karma.

2530
02:30:46,440 --> 02:30:47,460
John C Dvorak: on where to

2531
02:30:47,970 --> 02:30:51,450
Adam Curry: go, I'll do this
one. Andrew Helenius Helenius

2532
02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:55,500
iron river Wisconsin 221 dot 22
In the morning, thank you for

2533
02:30:55,500 --> 02:30:58,770
your courage. Please accept this
Richard surrounded by ducks.

2534
02:30:59,430 --> 02:31:04,200
2212 To get it for show 1594 In
celebration of 10 years of holy

2535
02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:07,590
matrimony to my smokin hot wife
Hillary and they never had a

2536
02:31:07,590 --> 02:31:11,580
fight. We tied the knot 10 years
ago today a year prior I threw

2537
02:31:11,580 --> 02:31:14,790
her a birthday surprise birthday
party and propose to her in

2538
02:31:14,790 --> 02:31:18,270
front of our friends and family.
Her being a gal who hates being

2539
02:31:18,270 --> 02:31:22,380
the center of attention gave a
choked up is sure

2540
02:31:24,390 --> 02:31:29,070
John C Dvorak: I like that.
Yeah. I know women in general

2541
02:31:29,520 --> 02:31:32,550
like to have this sort of type
of proposal.

2542
02:31:32,939 --> 02:31:36,299
Adam Curry: No not not in a
party now. They want control

2543
02:31:36,299 --> 02:31:38,939
they want it videoed has to be
beautiful their hair has to be

2544
02:31:38,939 --> 02:31:39,689
right everything I

2545
02:31:39,690 --> 02:31:41,340
John C Dvorak: teach away I
think the way to just get some

2546
02:31:41,340 --> 02:31:42,450
skier writers

2547
02:31:45,900 --> 02:31:49,650
Adam Curry: that's kind of
hokey. Why that's been done

2548
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:51,780
John C Dvorak: Will you marry me
is it's cost about

2549
02:31:52,260 --> 02:31:55,200
Adam Curry: but it's been it's
been done a million times.

2550
02:31:55,830 --> 02:31:58,020
John C Dvorak: Saying hey, would
you marry me has been done more

2551
02:31:58,020 --> 02:31:59,100
than a million towels.

2552
02:31:59,130 --> 02:32:02,850
Adam Curry: What women don't
want sky writers they want a

2553
02:32:02,850 --> 02:32:08,190
cliff overlooking the ocean at
sunset with with with

2554
02:32:08,940 --> 02:32:09,810
John C Dvorak: give you a story.

2555
02:32:11,070 --> 02:32:14,550
Adam Curry: This bonus content.
This is donation segments bonus

2556
02:32:14,550 --> 02:32:17,490
content. Your power 15,

2557
02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:20,970
John C Dvorak: the director of
marketing a woman that worked at

2558
02:32:20,970 --> 02:32:24,900
PC Magazine who you know, I
worked with a lot. She's great.

2559
02:32:25,620 --> 02:32:30,720
She's got married you propose to
her? No, no, but she has the she

2560
02:32:30,720 --> 02:32:34,230
had a proposal story of a
lifetime and I never told her

2561
02:32:34,230 --> 02:32:37,410
before she got married. So once
you get married, I said this

2562
02:32:37,410 --> 02:32:39,870
guy. You know what it was like?
I was kind of befuddled by it.

2563
02:32:40,170 --> 02:32:46,770
And she says to me. We went to
India, and he proposed to me in

2564
02:32:46,770 --> 02:32:51,090
front of the Taj Mahal. What was
I supposed to do?

2565
02:32:52,050 --> 02:32:54,750
Adam Curry: Exactly. Man went
all that way.

2566
02:32:56,070 --> 02:33:00,870
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, you
want to get somebody just the

2567
02:33:00,870 --> 02:33:04,200
way she described to us. Like,
if you're putting that position

2568
02:33:04,260 --> 02:33:12,210
at the Taj Mahal, the some digs
kind of a monument to love you

2569
02:33:12,210 --> 02:33:15,240
don't have a choice. You have to
say yes so so men out there you

2570
02:33:15,240 --> 02:33:18,120
get somebody's you know, but you
first you got to somehow talk

2571
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:19,680
her into flying to India. Now
you

2572
02:33:19,680 --> 02:33:25,800
Adam Curry: don't get it. You
get it? Sure. Sure. Sure.

2573
02:33:26,430 --> 02:33:32,250
Lastly, I need to give a wait.
He says on a different subject.

2574
02:33:32,250 --> 02:33:34,890
I was watching a clip of
headbangers ball yesterday and

2575
02:33:34,890 --> 02:33:37,830
was astounded to see how
different Adam look back then.

2576
02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:40,980
Well, I had big hair. And I have
one question, Adam. Do you still

2577
02:33:40,980 --> 02:33:44,370
have those leather pants? And I
will say I don't know what you

2578
02:33:44,370 --> 02:33:48,240
were watching. I have never in
my life worn leather pants on

2579
02:33:48,240 --> 02:33:53,100
the headbangers ball ever. So
what were you watching? Send me

2580
02:33:53,100 --> 02:33:57,780
a link. Lastly, I need to give a
shout out to midnight Mike Joe

2581
02:33:57,780 --> 02:34:02,910
aka flavortown and crush it from
our big dumb mouth podcast. They

2582
02:34:02,910 --> 02:34:07,920
need some help on reaching 4
million subscribers. Why? Why do

2583
02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:12,360
you need 4 million subscribers?
Sounds like it's on YouTube. No,

2584
02:34:12,360 --> 02:34:15,120
it has to be we don't hit the
algo unless we have 4 million

2585
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:18,930
subscribers and upload content
every 15 minutes. Can I get an

2586
02:34:18,930 --> 02:34:21,600
answer? I'm anniversary karma
from my wife Lord knows she

2587
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:28,740
deserves it for putting up with
me by Andy Helenius. You've got

2588
02:34:28,920 --> 02:34:29,610
karma

2589
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:36,630
John C Dvorak: Douglas Murray in
Missoula, Montana to $200.51

2590
02:34:36,630 --> 02:34:40,650
Happy Birthday sister, Dame
Ellen of the dream realm on

2591
02:34:40,650 --> 02:34:46,170
Friday, the Friday the 29th
Cheers to the trolls. And thank

2592
02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:48,030
you for your courage John and
Adam,

2593
02:34:48,630 --> 02:34:52,440
Adam Curry: Colin Wilson.
Gibsonia Pennsylvania 200. This

2594
02:34:52,440 --> 02:34:56,700
will be my second donation from
the three Brothers Bagels. Hello

2595
02:34:56,700 --> 02:34:59,640
three Brothers Bagels. Really
appreciate listening to your

2596
02:34:59,640 --> 02:35:02,850
show. I'll hand rolling
sourdough bagels in Pittsburgh.

2597
02:35:02,970 --> 02:35:06,600
Thanks, guys. But you're late if
you're doing it now, it's kind

2598
02:35:06,600 --> 02:35:09,240
of late. Don't Don't you roll
them early in the morning. You

2599
02:35:09,240 --> 02:35:11,640
would think that's what I will.
Yeah, that's when I roll my

2600
02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:12,240
bagels.

2601
02:35:14,429 --> 02:35:18,629
John C Dvorak: Linda Lou pagkain
from Lakewood, Colorado, jobs

2602
02:35:18,629 --> 02:35:21,509
karma for a resume that gets
results, go to Image makers

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02:35:21,509 --> 02:35:25,439
inc.com For all your executive
resume and job search needs,

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02:35:25,589 --> 02:35:29,909
that's image makers Inc with a
king.com. Or just find Lubetkin

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02:35:29,909 --> 02:35:31,679
under the show's producer list,
I

2606
02:35:34,860 --> 02:35:37,350
Adam Curry: didn't mean to give
you that one. This is what I

2607
02:35:37,350 --> 02:35:38,520
meant to hit jobs,

2608
02:35:38,700 --> 02:35:42,810
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs,
for jobs.

2609
02:35:46,290 --> 02:35:48,210
Adam Curry: And those are
executive and Associate

2610
02:35:48,210 --> 02:35:51,930
Executive producers for episode
1594. These are credits that are

2611
02:35:51,930 --> 02:35:56,100
real, and you can put them on
imdb.com. Go ahead, take a look.

2612
02:35:56,100 --> 02:35:59,550
There's hundreds, hundreds of
them, probably up to about 800.

2613
02:35:59,550 --> 02:36:02,550
Now you can use it on your
LinkedIn, put it on your resume

2614
02:36:02,550 --> 02:36:07,290
or CV, anything that you feel
will be enhanced and it's good

2615
02:36:07,290 --> 02:36:10,590
forever. And if anyone ever
questions that all you have to

2616
02:36:10,590 --> 02:36:14,250
do is get in touch with us and
we'll happily vouch for you.

2617
02:36:14,430 --> 02:36:16,920
Thank you, our executive and
Associate Executive Producer for

2618
02:36:16,920 --> 02:36:20,430
episode 1594. John is going to
take us through the 50s and

2619
02:36:20,430 --> 02:36:22,410
we'll get to our meetups and our
nice things.

2620
02:36:22,860 --> 02:36:25,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's start
with Sarah that sews in Sydney,

2621
02:36:25,710 --> 02:36:30,510
Montana. Saddle tramp, by the
way gets credit for the $150

2622
02:36:30,510 --> 02:36:33,150
donation that credit well she
would you'd get to thank you.

2623
02:36:33,390 --> 02:36:37,290
Richard Adams in Orem Utah $100
Turning 72 tomorrow I might

2624
02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:40,860
mention nice he has a new motto
What doesn't kill you is

2625
02:36:40,860 --> 02:36:47,490
everything so far. Aaron Tanner
in humble Texas 100 Some health

2626
02:36:47,490 --> 02:36:50,820
karma for the end of the after
the end make sure to give the

2627
02:36:50,820 --> 02:36:54,990
hell's karma for Aaron is
youngest daughter, sir Bob

2628
02:36:54,990 --> 02:36:59,820
Gallucci and Palmdale,
California 100. Kevin

2629
02:36:59,820 --> 02:37:03,390
McLaughlin, and there we have it
you brought it up earlier to 808

2630
02:37:03,390 --> 02:37:07,710
He's the lover of American boobs
he's the Archduke and it's still

2631
02:37:07,710 --> 02:37:09,660
watermelon donation there it

2632
02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:11,520
Adam Curry: is. We must be
getting to the end if he's

2633
02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:13,980
getting to water but by the way,
have a great end of show mix

2634
02:37:13,980 --> 02:37:17,700
that has a whole bunch of boob
donations in it from a lot of

2635
02:37:17,730 --> 02:37:19,590
melons. Watermelons

2636
02:37:19,770 --> 02:37:24,810
John C Dvorak: such as 808 and
suds and sanity in Watkinsville.

2637
02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:32,010
Georgia or Watkinsville GA ad
and that's it always had a meet

2638
02:37:32,010 --> 02:37:34,500
up report. You want it once you
read the meet up report.

2639
02:37:35,880 --> 02:37:38,040
Adam Curry: Second, suds and
Sandy meet up in Greensboro. Oh

2640
02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:40,200
yeah, we have a hold on a second
those that

2641
02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:41,880
John C Dvorak: come in Okay,
nevermind. Yeah, I think we have

2642
02:37:41,880 --> 02:37:45,090
extra Dana Carroll or Dana
Carroll

2643
02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:47,220
Adam Curry: don't know
agreement. Hold on. Is it live

2644
02:37:47,220 --> 02:37:49,980
Green Bay this Greensboro second
southern Sandy meetup in

2645
02:37:49,980 --> 02:37:52,170
Greensboro Georgia had a smaller
turnout but more intense

2646
02:37:52,170 --> 02:37:54,930
conversation we pass the hat to
send the proceeds to the best

2647
02:37:54,930 --> 02:37:57,090
podcast in the universe. We
would like to work on

2648
02:37:57,090 --> 02:38:00,960
pronunciation of the host
location. See guide below. Oh

2649
02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:05,550
Connie. Oh, Coney. Oh, Paula
rhymes with Oh, pony. Oh, Coney.

2650
02:38:05,580 --> 02:38:07,560
Oh, Kony. Got it.

2651
02:38:08,790 --> 02:38:12,930
John C Dvorak: So there is a
missing from the list is the

2652
02:38:12,930 --> 02:38:18,090
$271 donation from one of the
meetups. And this that's on

2653
02:38:18,090 --> 02:38:22,650
here. And it was I don't see,
you know, and it's basically an

2654
02:38:22,650 --> 02:38:25,560
accumulation of money is
supposed to be meetup reported

2655
02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:29,130
via email. So we'll read that
later. But I should mention,

2656
02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:35,790
Dame Beth came in with 100 of
the total. All right, so I just

2657
02:38:35,790 --> 02:38:42,720
want to credit her. Dana Carroll
Lofton, Nevada 7227. Brian

2658
02:38:42,720 --> 02:38:48,540
Rogers in Bedford, New York. 70.
And his pronouns are douche bag.

2659
02:38:48,750 --> 02:38:54,690
All right. Derrick Johnson in
Denver, Colorado. 6969 Kevin

2660
02:38:54,690 --> 02:38:57,420
McLaughlin, again in Concord,
North Carolina. It really wants

2661
02:38:57,420 --> 02:39:02,460
to run through these 606 No, no
more melons.

2662
02:39:02,490 --> 02:39:05,550
Adam Curry: Melons are over.
We're out of melons. Yes.

2663
02:39:05,550 --> 02:39:07,110
Unknown: Watermelon, no less
melon

2664
02:39:07,110 --> 02:39:07,950
Adam Curry: watermelon. We're
out.

2665
02:39:08,340 --> 02:39:10,260
John C Dvorak: Do you remember
cantaloupe? I don't remember.

2666
02:39:10,260 --> 02:39:11,880
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah,
definitely. Definitely.

2667
02:39:11,880 --> 02:39:13,620
Cantaloupe, for sure.
Definitely. Definitely.

2668
02:39:13,650 --> 02:39:14,820
Definitely, definitely.

2669
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:19,260
John C Dvorak: Bands driven
Nashville, Tennessee. 5993.

2670
02:39:19,410 --> 02:39:26,340
Stephen, or Stephen Eisenman in
Chicago, Illinois. 5555. Scott

2671
02:39:26,340 --> 02:39:30,300
Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa
sir Scott 5001. And the

2672
02:39:30,300 --> 02:39:33,810
following people are all $50
donors, and as quite a few of

2673
02:39:33,810 --> 02:39:36,840
them here. And I'm just going to
name them and give the location

2674
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:42,120
starting with the tact squad
tact squad in Columbus, Georgia,

2675
02:39:42,150 --> 02:39:45,390
Amy Grohl and bureau in
Washington, John Walter in

2676
02:39:45,390 --> 02:39:49,500
Wenatchee, Washington, Jack
Schoenfeld in yankeetown,

2677
02:39:49,500 --> 02:39:55,350
Florida, Shawna Norberg in
Seattle, Douglas Ellis in New

2678
02:39:55,350 --> 02:40:00,000
York City for a Scott Brinkley
and Kristian Berg, Virginia

2679
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:06,090
Yeah, Scott McCart McCarty in
Lodi, California Brian Emin

2680
02:40:06,090 --> 02:40:10,350
Heiser in Lancaster, California
John Taylor in fluorescent,

2681
02:40:11,490 --> 02:40:19,650
Colorado. Sunny Pang and Lee,
UK. Aaron wise Gerber in Bend,

2682
02:40:19,650 --> 02:40:23,280
Oregon, Richard Gardner, who I
think is in New York as a sir.

2683
02:40:23,460 --> 02:40:27,330
Sir Richard, of course, Michael
Elmore in Gastonia North

2684
02:40:27,330 --> 02:40:30,030
Carolina anonymous in Davis,
California.

2685
02:40:31,170 --> 02:40:32,880
Adam Curry: Anonymous says
something interesting was

2686
02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:36,540
injured. Right 175 Because of
cold climate change that would

2687
02:40:36,540 --> 02:40:40,770
have been turbulent without your
show. I would have never known

2688
02:40:40,770 --> 02:40:43,650
that true. Thank you. I'm going
after the FAA for disregard for

2689
02:40:43,650 --> 02:40:48,480
passenger safety would love any
help you can muster? All right.

2690
02:40:48,750 --> 02:40:52,440
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this came
up on the on Horowitz DHS

2691
02:40:52,440 --> 02:40:56,400
employed. He was unfamiliar with
your thesis. No. Which is not a

2692
02:40:56,400 --> 02:40:57,360
thesis. No, it's

2693
02:40:57,360 --> 02:41:00,750
Adam Curry: actually it's on the
faa.gov website.

2694
02:41:01,950 --> 02:41:04,650
John C Dvorak: And it's probably
worth repeating at some point

2695
02:41:04,710 --> 02:41:06,060
again, because

2696
02:41:06,690 --> 02:41:09,000
Adam Curry: well very, very
quickly because you I heard it

2697
02:41:09,030 --> 02:41:14,190
you almost explained it right.
To to combat climate change.

2698
02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:18,780
Instead of going down different
levels and staying away from the

2699
02:41:18,780 --> 02:41:22,650
turbulent air or flying above or
above it before going down

2700
02:41:22,680 --> 02:41:26,070
another you know, to another
flight level. The FAA has

2701
02:41:26,070 --> 02:41:29,490
decided you can just coast down
ain't just coast all the way

2702
02:41:29,490 --> 02:41:33,480
down. Turbulence be damned. And
the turbulence can often come

2703
02:41:33,480 --> 02:41:37,500
from other jets of course, or
the jet engines. They do cause

2704
02:41:37,500 --> 02:41:43,200
turbulence and so that's us save
save the planet. Enjoy your

2705
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:43,740
injury

2706
02:41:45,540 --> 02:41:49,260
John C Dvorak: ZEV green in
Teaneck, New York, a 50 Dame

2707
02:41:49,290 --> 02:41:55,680
girl Kyle not Kylie Stefano in
orange Vale California and Sir

2708
02:41:55,680 --> 02:42:00,750
Luke Reiner wraps it up from
London UK. Karma for all and we

2709
02:42:00,750 --> 02:42:03,570
do have some health karma to
give her at the end. Yeah,

2710
02:42:03,870 --> 02:42:07,140
Adam Curry: health karma but
also we have a note a nice note

2711
02:42:07,140 --> 02:42:10,830
from the previous show Peter
Irish and he says thanks to Jody

2712
02:42:10,830 --> 02:42:13,620
dame of the 10 key we have made
the hat trick to meetups and

2713
02:42:13,620 --> 02:42:17,700
executive producer credit in
three days. Sir CB and cervix

2714
02:42:17,820 --> 02:42:22,620
meetups. Sue the soul with
community warmth. Thank you for

2715
02:42:22,650 --> 02:42:24,360
thank you too for your
deconstruction over the years

2716
02:42:24,360 --> 02:42:26,940
ITM to all producers as well.
I'd like to claim my knighthood

2717
02:42:26,940 --> 02:42:31,140
with this donation. I will be
Peters are missing of the dev

2718
02:42:31,140 --> 02:42:38,970
ops and he wants a douchey ben
de douche, this standard fizzy

2719
02:42:38,970 --> 02:42:41,820
water at the roundtable high
fives with the community

2720
02:42:41,820 --> 02:42:44,040
wherever we meet Sorry for the
long note now not a problem at

2721
02:42:44,040 --> 02:42:50,820
all. Here's the health karma as
requested. You've got karma. And

2722
02:42:50,820 --> 02:42:54,240
thank you of course everyone who
came in under $50 Usually for

2723
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:57,330
reasons of anonymity I see a lot
of 4999 is there today we

2724
02:42:57,330 --> 02:43:01,080
appreciate that. And everybody
who came in with a sustaining

2725
02:43:01,080 --> 02:43:05,310
donation there are lots of them.
You can you can choose one

2726
02:43:05,310 --> 02:43:07,860
yourself that does keep us going
and we appreciate that and

2727
02:43:07,860 --> 02:43:10,140
everybody including our
Executive Associate Executive

2728
02:43:10,140 --> 02:43:15,510
producers who supported us for
this episode 1594 Our formula

2729
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:19,440
Unknown: is this we go out we
get people in the mouth

2730
02:43:41,220 --> 02:43:43,320
Adam Curry: Yes, we have a
couple of birthdays to celebrate

2731
02:43:43,320 --> 02:43:48,420
sir Jeremy Jim potty turn 61
Tomorrow. Douglas Murray wishes

2732
02:43:48,450 --> 02:43:51,450
his sister Dame Ellen of the
dream realm and happy birthday

2733
02:43:51,450 --> 02:43:54,540
tomorrow as well. And Richard
Adams is celebrating tomorrow

2734
02:43:54,540 --> 02:43:58,320
the 29th himself and he will be
turning 72 Happy birthday for

2735
02:43:58,320 --> 02:44:05,130
everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe. Oops

2736
02:44:06,570 --> 02:44:10,200
nope, sorry. No title changes my
mistake. I thought we had a

2737
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:14,100
title change we do not. We have
a one day pass him his name and

2738
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:17,490
we have two nights so let's get
out the beautiful blade for this

2739
02:44:17,490 --> 02:44:21,060
ceremony. Very nice. Nice
choice. I like that one a lot.

2740
02:44:22,800 --> 02:44:27,090
We request in spirit Miss
Roland. But also Peter ice and

2741
02:44:27,090 --> 02:44:30,000
William Rowland up on the
podium. Thank you very much for

2742
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:34,380
supporting the best podcast in
the universe. I'm very proud to

2743
02:44:34,380 --> 02:44:40,380
pronounce the KBS Dame Puma of
the Eastern Washington chasms

2744
02:44:41,100 --> 02:44:45,660
Prader sur missing of the DevOps
and search trigger max of the

2745
02:44:45,660 --> 02:44:49,230
Inslee, Eastern Washington
archipelago for you we've got

2746
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hookers and blow rent boys and
Chardonnay, we have shrimp and

2747
02:44:51,900 --> 02:44:55,320
grits. White Castle hamburgers
and Kirkland Bordeaux standard

2748
02:44:55,320 --> 02:44:58,260
fizzy water and of course,
ginger ale and gerbil sparkling

2749
02:44:58,260 --> 02:45:01,500
cider has sports bong hits and
bourbon I come with a lot and

2750
02:45:01,500 --> 02:45:08,490
the mutton and Mead die go to so
I go dry throat they go to no

2751
02:45:08,490 --> 02:45:16,800
agenda rings.com Then Sir sure
trigger trigger max if you want

2752
02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:19,440
we'll be happy to send you the
dame ring as well. I think you

2753
02:45:19,440 --> 02:45:22,260
should have that. So go to no
agenda rings.com Look at those

2754
02:45:22,260 --> 02:45:27,060
handsome and beautiful night and
Dame rings and give us sizes and

2755
02:45:27,060 --> 02:45:29,670
an address to send them to we
will get them to you post ace

2756
02:45:29,700 --> 02:45:32,730
along with wax to seal your
important correspondence and of

2757
02:45:32,730 --> 02:45:36,000
course, as always a certificate
of authenticity and thank you

2758
02:45:36,000 --> 02:45:40,170
very much for supporting the
best podcast in the universe. No

2759
02:45:40,170 --> 02:45:40,440
one

2760
02:45:48,120 --> 02:45:51,600
yes, the no agenda meetups is
where you go to find people who

2761
02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:54,240
listen to the show, but also
really defined your local

2762
02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:57,480
community and even though people
come from hours and hours away

2763
02:45:57,480 --> 02:46:02,700
sometimes it is a great, great
event. Everyone should attend

2764
02:46:02,700 --> 02:46:06,090
one at least once the keeper and
i Looks like we'll be attending.

2765
02:46:06,090 --> 02:46:10,140
We will go to indie, indie
meetup, I think it's December 4

2766
02:46:10,170 --> 02:46:13,920
That will be the confirmation
will be forthcoming. So you know

2767
02:46:13,920 --> 02:46:16,530
for the people who are there
with your 100 people it seems

2768
02:46:16,530 --> 02:46:18,570
every single time looking
forward to that you can start

2769
02:46:18,570 --> 02:46:21,060
planning and here is a report
from Green Bay

2770
02:46:21,090 --> 02:46:24,120
Unknown: in the morning, sir
Vic's in the morning bearing

2771
02:46:24,120 --> 02:46:27,390
grape drink in the morning, Jay
from Green Bay. Hi, Adam. Sam

2772
02:46:27,390 --> 02:46:28,080
from Green Bay

2773
02:46:28,110 --> 02:46:31,140
in the morning is the SIR Dan
someone Hey, John and Adam. It

2774
02:46:31,140 --> 02:46:33,870
just remember we're not rafting
at you. We're rafting with you.

2775
02:46:34,410 --> 02:46:37,620
Mr. MoPhO. In the morning, Laura
from Green Bay

2776
02:46:37,650 --> 02:46:41,220
Fifi from Green Bay is jer in
the morning sir. Broken glass.

2777
02:46:41,220 --> 02:46:43,950
Thank you for all your hard work
in the morning. This is Peter

2778
02:46:43,950 --> 02:46:46,860
going for the hattrick happy to
be here in the morning. This is

2779
02:46:46,860 --> 02:46:50,340
Kyle. I am no longer a douchebag
Hi, Adam and John. It's God damn

2780
02:46:50,340 --> 02:46:55,050
god of the 10 P and I'm here
again. Imagine that. Hi, this is

2781
02:46:55,050 --> 02:46:59,100
Alex and I forgot the response.
Thank you for your in the

2782
02:46:59,100 --> 02:47:02,790
morning. Hello, my name is
Wolfgang. I'm here at the end.

2783
02:47:02,790 --> 02:47:07,740
No agenda meet up ITM producers.
It's Varun sir phenom. And don't

2784
02:47:07,740 --> 02:47:11,760
forget to vote for Mike Gaston
for Charleston City Council.

2785
02:47:11,850 --> 02:47:15,810
Dame Jennifer campaign manager.
I don't listen to the podcast.

2786
02:47:15,870 --> 02:47:17,430
Please don't hit me in the
mouth.

2787
02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:20,880
Adam Curry: That's right. This
is what happens at meetups all

2788
02:47:20,880 --> 02:47:23,520
of a sudden you get city council
members and other producers like

2789
02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:27,420
not just any producer but Dame
Jennifer running your campaign

2790
02:47:27,420 --> 02:47:32,790
beautiful. A note the meet up
for today at Alpharetta, Georgia

2791
02:47:32,820 --> 02:47:35,640
cherish tea brewing has been
cancelled. I'm not sure why but

2792
02:47:35,640 --> 02:47:38,940
just so you know, don't go. The
Mile High meet up though is on

2793
02:47:38,940 --> 02:47:42,150
630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado, the Nashville

2794
02:47:42,150 --> 02:47:45,480
pints and pairing will be on
tomorrow six o'clock at the

2795
02:47:45,480 --> 02:47:49,140
Yazoo Brewing Company Madison,
Tennessee, the first Vancouver

2796
02:47:49,140 --> 02:47:54,150
Canada meet up 7pm Leticia, but
lutukka Pizza maybe Vancouver

2797
02:47:54,150 --> 02:47:57,840
British Columbia. That's
tomorrow also end of summer will

2798
02:47:57,840 --> 02:48:00,900
be celebrated at McSorley's,
wonderful saloon and Grill in

2799
02:48:00,900 --> 02:48:05,070
Toronto, Ontario. And on
Saturday, the local 512 bringing

2800
02:48:05,070 --> 02:48:08,880
in the fall a duck's back yard
Sunset Valley austin texas Of

2801
02:48:08,880 --> 02:48:12,180
course. Baron Scott of The no
agenda armory. I wish I could

2802
02:48:12,180 --> 02:48:15,750
attend Baron Scott. Once again.
We've missed on the scheduling.

2803
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:19,380
I'm in Houston this weekend,
unfortunately. But it's a great

2804
02:48:19,380 --> 02:48:22,440
meetup. Everybody should go also
on Saturday, the fractal meetup

2805
02:48:22,440 --> 02:48:26,460
chicken and pickle Oklahoma City
Oklahoma. We've got the Alberta

2806
02:48:26,490 --> 02:48:30,450
meet up in the Buckingham in
Edmonton Alberta. And the Como

2807
02:48:30,450 --> 02:48:34,260
come all co mo Twin Lakes
recreation area in Columbia,

2808
02:48:34,260 --> 02:48:37,140
Missouri. Oh, that's where como
comes from that Saturday,

2809
02:48:37,140 --> 02:48:40,290
central Ohio meetup five o'clock
at Dempsey's food and spirits

2810
02:48:40,320 --> 02:48:44,370
and on September 30, Saturday
the sixth northwest Houston meet

2811
02:48:44,370 --> 02:48:47,880
up. Wow. I'm not going to be in
northwest Houston. That's too

2812
02:48:47,880 --> 02:48:51,780
bad. bogeys billiards West.
That's in Houston Texas. plenty

2813
02:48:51,780 --> 02:48:56,010
more to come. Well, we have all
the way through November's I can

2814
02:48:56,010 --> 02:48:58,530
see on the list. You can see
that list for yourself and no

2815
02:48:58,530 --> 02:49:01,920
agenda meetups.com You owe it to
yourself if you listen to this

2816
02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:04,590
podcast you owe it to yourself
to go meet your fellow

2817
02:49:04,590 --> 02:49:07,920
compatriots. And whenever you do
meet them you'll immediately

2818
02:49:07,920 --> 02:49:13,110
realize what you have protection
because that's what you get from

2819
02:49:13,110 --> 02:49:16,200
connection no agenda meetups.com
If you can't find one there you

2820
02:49:16,200 --> 02:49:18,240
start one yourself sometimes

2821
02:49:18,240 --> 02:49:26,820
Unknown: you go hang out with
Dyson days. You won't be

2822
02:49:26,850 --> 02:49:35,940
triggered you will be buddy like
a

2823
02:49:37,860 --> 02:49:42,720
Adam Curry: like a pot like a
pot. It is like a party. It

2824
02:49:42,720 --> 02:49:46,830
really is. It's a party. I see
you only have one ISO

2825
02:49:47,970 --> 02:49:50,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm hoping
it'll beat yours. Once you play

2826
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:51,360
yours and snow. I

2827
02:49:51,360 --> 02:49:52,830
Adam Curry: have a whole bunch.
No,

2828
02:49:52,920 --> 02:49:54,480
John C Dvorak: you think you
have a whole bunch?

2829
02:49:54,510 --> 02:50:05,700
Adam Curry: I got four plan.
Okay, and here is yeah that's no

2830
02:50:05,700 --> 02:50:09,810
good. You'll be that easy about
this one. And I feel like our

2831
02:50:09,810 --> 02:50:12,690
patrons just have really good
taste now that's no good. This

2832
02:50:12,690 --> 02:50:16,020
is this is the one this I think
this is just may boost that

2833
02:50:16,020 --> 02:50:18,510
boosts the sound a little bit.
This is I mean brought all those

2834
02:50:18,510 --> 02:50:22,050
elements just a shield to play
this one extra extra awesome.

2835
02:50:23,040 --> 02:50:24,630
Oh, it's pretty good, right?

2836
02:50:25,230 --> 02:50:26,040
John C Dvorak: I do like it.

2837
02:50:26,130 --> 02:50:28,230
Adam Curry: Okay you do? You do
like

2838
02:50:28,320 --> 02:50:30,210
John C Dvorak: you do as opposed
to just liking it? I

2839
02:50:30,210 --> 02:50:31,950
Adam Curry: do like You're like
it. Let's listen to yours.

2840
02:50:31,980 --> 02:50:33,300
Unknown: How do we trust these
guys?

2841
02:50:34,470 --> 02:50:40,200
Adam Curry: Ah, wow. I'm Do you
know that's kind of a tough call

2842
02:50:40,770 --> 02:50:43,170
is coming? Extra extra awesome.

2843
02:50:44,190 --> 02:50:45,390
Unknown: How do we trust these
guys?

2844
02:50:45,420 --> 02:50:47,670
Adam Curry: I like yours better.
I think how do we trust these

2845
02:50:47,670 --> 02:50:48,180
guys is

2846
02:50:48,180 --> 02:50:51,090
John C Dvorak: funnier. I like
that. It's funny. It's funny.

2847
02:50:51,150 --> 02:50:51,630
It's funny.

2848
02:50:51,630 --> 02:50:55,680
Adam Curry: It's also the audio
is better. So I give that to

2849
02:50:55,680 --> 02:51:02,100
you. Give it to you. Okay, we'll
take it. Give it to you. Hey,

2850
02:51:03,510 --> 02:51:09,570
Metta unveiled its AI chatbots.
Did you see the presentation?

2851
02:51:10,350 --> 02:51:15,030
John C Dvorak: I saw part of it,
but I didn't. Well, follow it

2852
02:51:15,300 --> 02:51:17,790
Adam Curry: closely. This is
Facebook falling on its face. As

2853
02:51:17,790 --> 02:51:18,870
far as I'm concerned.

2854
02:51:19,050 --> 02:51:22,050
Unknown: Throwing down the
digital gauntlet in the AI race

2855
02:51:22,050 --> 02:51:25,920
currently dominated by chat GPT
Mark Zuckerberg showed matters

2856
02:51:25,920 --> 02:51:28,860
recent cost cutting has not
stopped them keeping up with the

2857
02:51:28,860 --> 02:51:32,040
integration of artificial
intelligence into daily life.

2858
02:51:32,160 --> 02:51:35,280
Adam Curry: Now this is really
interesting, because, you know,

2859
02:51:35,310 --> 02:51:38,430
I mean, what is it a chat? What
it what are they doing it? You

2860
02:51:38,430 --> 02:51:42,180
know, artificial intelligence, I
mean, thrown down the gauntlet

2861
02:51:42,180 --> 02:51:46,560
against chat GPT open AI, which
as far as I know, is is free and

2862
02:51:46,560 --> 02:51:49,410
I don't make any money on it.
But hey, he's got an idea. What

2863
02:51:49,410 --> 02:51:50,100
could it be?

2864
02:51:50,340 --> 02:51:52,860
Unknown: I think that one of the
most interesting questions for

2865
02:51:52,860 --> 02:51:56,610
our industry over the coming
decades is going to be how do we

2866
02:51:56,610 --> 02:52:01,170
unify these experiences of the
physical that we have with this

2867
02:52:01,350 --> 02:52:04,560
vibrant digital world to create
something that is more coherent?

2868
02:52:05,040 --> 02:52:07,740
And just better than anything
that we have today?

2869
02:52:07,800 --> 02:52:09,990
Adam Curry: Is that one of the
most important questions that we

2870
02:52:09,990 --> 02:52:12,270
have in this industry today
gentlemen, is that will you say

2871
02:52:12,270 --> 02:52:15,030
that did I know I don't think
so. We've

2872
02:52:16,140 --> 02:52:18,810
Unknown: got many lots of
matters answer is there new chat

2873
02:52:18,810 --> 02:52:21,570
bots available in the US as of
Wednesday across

2874
02:52:22,410 --> 02:52:25,800
John C Dvorak: chatting going on
already on Facebook? You need a

2875
02:52:25,800 --> 02:52:26,610
chatbot

2876
02:52:26,640 --> 02:52:28,050
Adam Curry: Well, there's a
payoff to this

2877
02:52:28,200 --> 02:52:31,200
Unknown: and WhatsApp can these
bots search for answers using

2878
02:52:31,200 --> 02:52:35,700
questions through Microsoft Bing
responses muscle use llama to

2879
02:52:36,630 --> 02:52:39,540
model that the company made open
source earlier this year going

2880
02:52:39,540 --> 02:52:39,600
to

2881
02:52:39,600 --> 02:52:41,790
help you check this out. So
let's say you're you're planning

2882
02:52:41,790 --> 02:52:44,700
dinner. You got Max the sous
chef.

2883
02:52:44,789 --> 02:52:47,519
Adam Curry: Oh, this is this is
why you need it. You need the

2884
02:52:47,519 --> 02:52:50,399
chat bots. And you have Max the
sous chef

2885
02:52:51,060 --> 02:52:53,250
Unknown: who can help you come
up with a recipe

2886
02:52:53,310 --> 02:52:54,810
Adam Curry: Oh wow.

2887
02:52:54,990 --> 02:52:57,750
John C Dvorak: Oh, what is this?
What do you have your own chef

2888
02:52:57,750 --> 02:52:59,910
at the house? Oh yeah, normal
person.

2889
02:52:59,939 --> 02:53:03,209
Unknown: Oh, you know you have a
chef and help you come up with

2890
02:53:03,209 --> 02:53:06,599
ideas. So if you want to find a
way to sneak some broccoli into

2891
02:53:06,599 --> 02:53:10,079
your kids dinner Max's got you
you know let's say you had too

2892
02:53:10,079 --> 02:53:12,359
much salt to the recipe you can
help you balance that out.

2893
02:53:12,420 --> 02:53:17,160
Adam Curry: This This feels like
a demo from like 1999

2894
02:53:17,430 --> 02:53:20,730
Unknown: Studio the intelligence
maybe artificial personalities

2895
02:53:20,730 --> 02:53:23,760
are being made to feel very real
interests, users of Metis

2896
02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:27,360
platforms will be able to
interact with 28 chatbots that

2897
02:53:27,360 --> 02:53:30,180
will feel familiar. As
celebrities have agreed their

2898
02:53:30,180 --> 02:53:33,870
voices and likenesses can be
used in the future. The goal is

2899
02:53:33,870 --> 02:53:36,630
to AI characters will eventually
appear in the metaverse as

2900
02:53:36,660 --> 02:53:39,810
avatars. But Zuckerberg said
these products would roll out

2901
02:53:39,810 --> 02:53:43,140
slowly so as to deal with any
privacy and safety concerns that

2902
02:53:43,140 --> 02:53:43,710
arise.

2903
02:53:43,920 --> 02:53:48,150
Adam Curry: So what this is, is
you have some quasi celebrity

2904
02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:53,280
chef. No, they're celebrities. I
don't know which max this is.

2905
02:53:53,850 --> 02:54:00,750
And he has allowed his image and
his recipes, supposedly, to be

2906
02:54:00,840 --> 02:54:05,280
built into the llama model. And
maybe even his voice I don't

2907
02:54:05,280 --> 02:54:08,880
know. And so that's what they're
selling. It's like okay, so you

2908
02:54:08,880 --> 02:54:11,490
get a celebrity chef, this is
what you should do for wine. I

2909
02:54:11,490 --> 02:54:15,720
mean, obviously, but they won't
pay you the pain those guys. But

2910
02:54:15,720 --> 02:54:18,450
that's what you want. I would
love to have the John C. Dvorak

2911
02:54:18,450 --> 02:54:20,400
wine. chatbot

2912
02:54:21,150 --> 02:54:22,740
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we can do
it ourselves.

2913
02:54:23,550 --> 02:54:27,120
Adam Curry: I think we can. Even
if we just hire some asylum

2914
02:54:27,120 --> 02:54:27,960
seekers to answer

2915
02:54:27,990 --> 02:54:31,050
John C Dvorak: Oh, we get some
developers in the audience. One

2916
02:54:31,050 --> 02:54:32,520
of them can crank this out for
it.

2917
02:54:32,760 --> 02:54:34,770
Adam Curry: Yeah. And what will
people pay for it? That's the

2918
02:54:34,770 --> 02:54:36,330
question. I don't see any extra

2919
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:40,140
John C Dvorak: value for value.
They will Oh, please. Yeah.

2920
02:54:40,680 --> 02:54:46,290
Adam Curry: So Barry Diller went
on CNBC. To talk about AI and

2921
02:54:46,290 --> 02:54:50,040
this is a very different kind of
AI. This is the this is what you

2922
02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:58,020
on the last show said will
change the art world. But it's

2923
02:54:58,020 --> 02:55:01,830
all about copyright. And I
thought it was interesting

2924
02:55:01,830 --> 02:55:04,530
because he had a couple of a
couple of things to say. And

2925
02:55:04,530 --> 02:55:08,250
he's very he hates AI hates
everything he just hates.

2926
02:55:08,250 --> 02:55:08,910
Everybody

2927
02:55:09,270 --> 02:55:10,950
John C Dvorak: hates you and
him.

2928
02:55:11,790 --> 02:55:13,170
Adam Curry: And I'm kind of
liking him. Now.

2929
02:55:13,200 --> 02:55:16,050
Unknown: Let me ask about AI.
Because you have been quite

2930
02:55:16,050 --> 02:55:19,590
public about your harsh May. I
mean, I'm so sick of you're sick

2931
02:55:19,590 --> 02:55:19,680
of

2932
02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:26,430
Adam Curry: it. I love already
I'm liking it. A i May I

2933
02:55:28,980 --> 02:55:31,890
Unknown: May I mean, I'm so sick
of you're sick of it. Well,

2934
02:55:32,250 --> 02:55:35,940
you were you were ready to sue?
Oh, no, you won't want to do

2935
02:55:35,940 --> 02:55:36,840
that you're gonna see.

2936
02:55:38,190 --> 02:55:46,890
Just, you know, the gobbling up
of every piece of noise about AI

2937
02:55:46,890 --> 02:55:52,500
infecting your toenails. Is not
that it is not transfer

2938
02:55:52,530 --> 02:55:57,900
transformative. It certainly
we'll be over time. But I'm just

2939
02:55:57,930 --> 02:56:04,230
tired of hearing this kind of
this hype noise as to litigation

2940
02:56:04,260 --> 02:56:04,620
or as

2941
02:56:04,680 --> 02:56:08,370
you're trying to put together a
group of publishers yes to sue

2942
02:56:08,460 --> 02:56:09,840
Chachi pt. And others

2943
02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:12,870
know what we're what we want to
do is a very simple thing. Okay.

2944
02:56:13,560 --> 02:56:17,130
Copyright, the copyright law has
entered something called a mind

2945
02:56:17,130 --> 02:56:19,650
boring you has something called
fair use

2946
02:56:19,980 --> 02:56:22,350
Adam Curry: someone on the set
looking at the laptop, he's

2947
02:56:22,350 --> 02:56:23,520
like, Am I boring you

2948
02:56:24,690 --> 02:56:28,410
Unknown: like jeans means that
you can take an excerpt thing,

2949
02:56:28,500 --> 02:56:33,720
something and not pay for it.
Fair Use needs to be redefined.

2950
02:56:33,810 --> 02:56:37,470
Because what they have done is
sucked up everything. And that

2951
02:56:37,470 --> 02:56:41,850
violates we believe the base of
the copyright law, all we want

2952
02:56:41,850 --> 02:56:47,760
to do is establish that there is
no such thing as fair use for

2953
02:56:47,940 --> 02:56:53,490
AI, which gives us standing.
Once we have standing, then,

2954
02:56:53,910 --> 02:56:57,510
depending upon how this works
out over time. There there is at

2955
02:56:57,510 --> 02:57:01,140
least status right now we have
no status, they got all our

2956
02:57:01,140 --> 02:57:07,350
stuff. Most companies have now
said as we have our dot

2957
02:57:07,350 --> 02:57:10,560
Desmarais, which isn't the
largest publisher, we've said,

2958
02:57:10,860 --> 02:57:14,010
You can't do this anymore. And
they won't from now on but they

2959
02:57:14,010 --> 02:57:18,120
got all the old hadn't didn't
have to pay you for the if in

2960
02:57:18,120 --> 02:57:22,260
fact, if you violate the
copyright law, like you write

2961
02:57:22,260 --> 02:57:25,860
something, you make something
and somebody takes it with

2962
02:57:26,190 --> 02:57:31,080
literally appropriates it. We
believe that is simple, wrong.

2963
02:57:31,110 --> 02:57:34,440
Okay. So that's in the copyright
law. Once you get that, then at

2964
02:57:34,440 --> 02:57:35,550
least you have standing.

2965
02:57:35,970 --> 02:57:39,120
That's all we want. We have to
pay you for that. How do you

2966
02:57:39,120 --> 02:57:39,960
make the AI

2967
02:57:39,960 --> 02:57:43,200
let me ask you a question if you
think we're right on something,

2968
02:57:43,320 --> 02:57:46,290
but what's like there's some
kind of exchange and right now

2969
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:49,350
there's conversations that we're
having and others are having

2970
02:57:49,350 --> 02:57:53,220
with all of us and chatters.
They say yeah, we're happy to

2971
02:57:53,280 --> 02:57:56,070
make arrangements. That what
percent of zero would you like?

2972
02:57:56,400 --> 02:57:57,690
Because there's no revenue.

2973
02:57:58,230 --> 02:58:02,550
Adam Curry: That's that's the
point. There's no revenue. He

2974
02:58:02,550 --> 02:58:05,130
says how much percent of zero
will you want because we're no

2975
02:58:05,130 --> 02:58:08,580
one's making any money making
any money. Of course, now, he

2976
02:58:08,580 --> 02:58:13,980
makes a classic mistake, classic
mistake by now he's going to

2977
02:58:13,980 --> 02:58:17,040
prognosticate about the future
of AI.

2978
02:58:17,370 --> 02:58:22,890
Unknown: The next thing to pay
attention to on AI is not search

2979
02:58:22,920 --> 02:58:27,210
and chat and stuff like that.
It's when it goes from research

2980
02:58:27,300 --> 02:58:31,680
to action, when it can
autonomously get things done for

2981
02:58:31,680 --> 02:58:36,060
you. Right think of travel,
being able to say, I want to go

2982
02:58:36,060 --> 02:58:40,590
to Istanbul, it knows enough
about you enough about all of

2983
02:58:40,590 --> 02:58:44,130
your preferences, that it can
basically ask you one or two

2984
02:58:44,130 --> 02:58:49,620
questions, and then actually go
and execute the transaction.

2985
02:58:49,830 --> 02:58:53,820
Right now. It's research. When
it turns to action. Everything

2986
02:58:53,820 --> 02:58:54,240
changes.

2987
02:58:54,420 --> 02:58:57,990
Adam Curry: How many decades
have we heard this?

2988
02:58:58,109 --> 02:59:01,529
John C Dvorak: Is this is a
never ending? Yeah, Holy Grail,

2989
02:59:01,529 --> 02:59:03,149
but he was he described smart

2990
02:59:03,180 --> 02:59:06,630
Adam Curry: agents and work on
your behalf. When your fridge is

2991
02:59:06,630 --> 02:59:09,480
out of milk, it will
automatically order new milk for

2992
02:59:09,480 --> 02:59:12,870
you. I have heard this for
decades.

2993
02:59:13,380 --> 02:59:16,980
John C Dvorak: It's the old a
hill oh wait, what do you want?

2994
02:59:17,190 --> 02:59:20,520
Because I'm the Maytag
repairman. But I didn't call for

2995
02:59:20,520 --> 02:59:23,190
repairman. No, your washer did.
Yeah.

2996
02:59:25,560 --> 02:59:28,890
Adam Curry: There was one
interesting article that was in

2997
02:59:28,890 --> 02:59:32,550
the Business Insider. And you
know, we had the smartest people

2998
02:59:32,550 --> 02:59:37,050
in the world talk about AI with
the senators behind closed

2999
02:59:37,050 --> 02:59:41,340
doors. Now, as Elon Musk said,
you know, it's very important to

3000
02:59:41,340 --> 02:59:44,940
save the world. So that's why
you need the smartest people in

3001
02:59:44,940 --> 02:59:50,550
the world in the room. And now
we have a leak. We know what

3002
02:59:50,580 --> 02:59:56,220
what was discussed. Have you
seen this? Know? Several tech

3003
02:59:56,220 --> 02:59:59,520
leaders descended upon Capitol
Hill last week to discuss the

3004
02:59:59,520 --> 03:00:03,270
rapid suspension of generative
AI, which as far as I know does

3005
03:00:03,270 --> 03:00:08,490
not exist yet. It was a mostly
stead meeting until the

3006
03:00:08,490 --> 03:00:13,470
potential harms from metas new
llama to model came up during

3007
03:00:13,470 --> 03:00:17,400
the discussion, attended by most
of the Senate's 100 members,

3008
03:00:17,610 --> 03:00:21,900
Tristan Harris, remember that
guy? Now he's one of the most

3009
03:00:21,900 --> 03:00:25,950
smartest human beings in the
world. Sure, and CO a co founder

3010
03:00:25,950 --> 03:00:29,730
of the Center for humane
technology said he recently had

3011
03:00:29,760 --> 03:00:33,810
engineers take Metis powerful
large language model llama to

3012
03:00:33,810 --> 03:00:37,830
for a test drive. After some
prompting, Harris said that a

3013
03:00:37,830 --> 03:00:41,490
chat with llama two came back
with a detailed walkthrough of

3014
03:00:41,490 --> 03:00:45,030
how to create anthrax as a
biological weapon.

3015
03:00:45,630 --> 03:00:46,830
John C Dvorak: Please,

3016
03:00:46,860 --> 03:00:48,990
Adam Curry: according to one
person familiar with the form

3017
03:00:48,990 --> 03:00:52,590
and two senators present that
prompted a testy exchange

3018
03:00:52,590 --> 03:00:56,880
between Harris and Zuckerberg.
Most specifics of the exchange

3019
03:00:56,880 --> 03:00:59,220
between Harris and Zuckerberg
have not been previously

3020
03:00:59,220 --> 03:01:02,100
reported. Though Harris
receiving directions from llama

3021
03:01:02,100 --> 03:01:05,610
to about an unidentified
biological weapon was noted by

3022
03:01:05,610 --> 03:01:10,020
the Washington Post. And of
course, Zuckerberg then hit back

3023
03:01:10,020 --> 03:01:13,830
and said, you can get this on
YouTube. If you want to find out

3024
03:01:13,830 --> 03:01:17,910
how to make anthrax, you can get
it on YouTube. So this is what

3025
03:01:17,910 --> 03:01:21,090
they were talking about. I
believe it. There's so

3026
03:01:21,930 --> 03:01:24,180
John C Dvorak: this is a stupid
they are definitely a stupid

3027
03:01:24,180 --> 03:01:25,020
part. I believe.

3028
03:01:25,770 --> 03:01:27,870
Adam Curry: It's stupid. They're
stupid. The whole thing is

3029
03:01:27,870 --> 03:01:33,270
stupid. That's gonna change our
world can't wait. Can't wait.

3030
03:01:36,600 --> 03:01:37,590
John C Dvorak: For overtime.

3031
03:01:38,430 --> 03:01:40,950
Adam Curry: Well, we're only
overtime because we had a huge

3032
03:01:40,950 --> 03:01:43,050
pause. You think we're overtime?
But you

3033
03:01:43,050 --> 03:01:46,770
John C Dvorak: know, you I bet
we're all way over the pauses

3034
03:01:46,770 --> 03:01:47,820
only five minutes.

3035
03:01:47,970 --> 03:01:49,800
Adam Curry: The pause was 10
minutes. But would you like to

3036
03:01:49,800 --> 03:01:51,900
play one clip? Or do you want to
leave on this? No,

3037
03:01:51,900 --> 03:01:54,180
John C Dvorak: no, no, but I
want to I want to I'll teach the

3038
03:01:54,180 --> 03:01:58,350
clips. Why don't you play a
clip? Let's play. So here's the

3039
03:01:58,380 --> 03:02:01,560
display. The second part of a
clip this is I just want to

3040
03:02:01,560 --> 03:02:06,750
bring up this. You know Menendez
Menendez has been kicked out.

3041
03:02:06,750 --> 03:02:09,420
And I have two clips when you
want to play. The second one was

3042
03:02:09,420 --> 03:02:14,550
just Schumer commenting on
Menendez. He doesn't even know

3043
03:02:14,550 --> 03:02:17,370
the guy's name. He calls a
Menendez oil

3044
03:02:19,170 --> 03:02:23,160
Adam Curry: update. And then
Schumer Schumer? I gotcha.

3045
03:02:23,340 --> 03:02:26,460
Unknown: Senator Chuck Schumer
broke his silence at a press

3046
03:02:26,460 --> 03:02:27,930
conference on Wednesday.

3047
03:02:28,350 --> 03:02:34,800
Like you. I was just deeply
disappointed. disturbed when I

3048
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:41,220
read the indictment, but we all
know that senators, for

3049
03:02:41,220 --> 03:02:45,030
Senators, there's a much much
higher standard. And clearly

3050
03:02:45,060 --> 03:02:48,660
when you read the indictment,
Senator Menendez fell way, way

3051
03:02:48,660 --> 03:02:49,890
below that standard.

3052
03:02:51,210 --> 03:02:55,440
Adam Curry: Okay, I get to do a
32nd clip. This was Senator

3053
03:02:55,440 --> 03:03:01,890
Menendez, Menendez. Well, that
was fantastic. This was Matt

3054
03:03:01,890 --> 03:03:05,340
gates, who's been all over the
all over the mainstream lately

3055
03:03:05,340 --> 03:03:08,580
with a big mouth. And this I
have to say this was one of the

3056
03:03:08,580 --> 03:03:10,260
funnier things he's done. You
are

3057
03:03:10,260 --> 03:03:13,200
Unknown: your record. And our
record in this country right now

3058
03:03:13,200 --> 03:03:19,020
is $33 trillion in debt facing
$2 trillion annual deficits.

3059
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We're in so much debt. We're
driving up deficits so fast. We

3060
03:03:23,460 --> 03:03:29,160
are devaluing American money so
rapidly that in America today,

3061
03:03:29,850 --> 03:03:34,620
you can't even bribe Democrat
senators with cash alone. You

3062
03:03:34,620 --> 03:03:38,460
need to bring gold bars to get
the job done. Just so that the

3063
03:03:38,460 --> 03:03:42,180
bribes hold now. Come on. Well,

3064
03:03:42,990 --> 03:03:46,110
John C Dvorak: well, good move.
Very funny, guys. The guys this

3065
03:03:46,110 --> 03:03:47,730
show is showman they're all

3066
03:03:47,730 --> 03:03:51,210
Adam Curry: showman he's just
funnier. Yeah, that is our

3067
03:03:51,210 --> 03:03:54,780
deconstruction for today. We're
over time. But we do have end of

3068
03:03:54,780 --> 03:03:57,390
show mixes coming up from
Michael Wolf's are Michael

3069
03:03:57,390 --> 03:04:00,630
Anthony DS laughs and sound guy
Steve that would be the metal

3070
03:04:00,630 --> 03:04:05,070
and make stick around for it. We
also have no agenda stream.com

3071
03:04:05,070 --> 03:04:08,940
continuing at nogen ustream.com,
troll room.io or in that modern

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03:04:08,940 --> 03:04:11,160
podcast app, what you got to
look for and you're listening to

3073
03:04:11,160 --> 03:04:16,620
still GROW AMERICA, Episode 622.
And later this evening at seven

3074
03:04:16,620 --> 03:04:20,730
o'clock central time. Abs in a
six pack was their seat sitter

3075
03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:27,090
Larry Biden owner and Sir Carl
with a que that's my promotional

3076
03:04:27,390 --> 03:04:30,630
messages for you. And I am
coming to you from the heart of

3077
03:04:30,630 --> 03:04:33,480
the Texas Hill Country and
female rock region number six.

3078
03:04:33,900 --> 03:04:36,270
And I say in the morning, I'm
Adam curry,

3079
03:04:36,449 --> 03:04:39,659
John C Dvorak: Devin northern
Silicon Valley where I remain on

3080
03:04:39,659 --> 03:04:40,619
Jhansi Dvorak we

3081
03:04:40,620 --> 03:04:43,800
Adam Curry: return on Sunday,
with another episode of the Best

3082
03:04:43,800 --> 03:04:46,770
podcast the universe. Thank you
again, for all the value you

3083
03:04:46,770 --> 03:04:51,780
sent to us. We appreciate it
until then, adios mofos a hui,

3084
03:04:51,780 --> 03:05:00,120
Hui, and such and remember the
vorak.org/na Have

3085
03:05:11,550 --> 03:05:18,270
Unknown: you have you had the
will destroy New York City

3086
03:05:26,340 --> 03:05:27,780
destroy New York City

3087
03:05:37,020 --> 03:05:40,980
President Biden has come into
the city to destroy this

3088
03:05:40,980 --> 03:05:44,610
beautiful city this economic
engine of the entire country

3089
03:05:49,920 --> 03:05:54,810
destroyed Joy Joy, Joy. New
York, Sydney and Sydney and

3090
03:05:54,810 --> 03:05:55,950
Sydney and Sydney is

3091
03:06:01,170 --> 03:06:05,520
destroy in New York City. I'ma
tell y'all the secret New York

3092
03:06:05,520 --> 03:06:13,560
City. Keep this on the town is a
Freemason. It was just a Miesha

3093
03:06:13,560 --> 03:06:19,980
Tate as a master mason into the
prince Hall Grand Lodge and K

3094
03:06:19,980 --> 03:06:24,810
Freemasonry for us black
brothers. They also initiated

3095
03:06:24,810 --> 03:06:29,430
the chief of police, the police
commissioner and other powerful

3096
03:06:29,460 --> 03:06:33,960
melanated dudes running this
ain't no white boys up in this

3097
03:06:33,960 --> 03:06:38,910
club. No women need only
brothers and we had the ceremony

3098
03:06:38,940 --> 03:06:43,110
right up in Gracie Mansion.
haters out there saying that

3099
03:06:43,110 --> 03:06:46,740
public servants should not be
the window segregated secret

3100
03:06:46,740 --> 03:06:50,940
society rituals on government
property. Man y'all just mad

3101
03:06:50,940 --> 03:06:54,270
y'all wasn't invited on like
obviously illegal immigrants.

3102
03:06:55,200 --> 03:06:59,910
Anyway, I don't even know for
all the symbolisms means I just

3103
03:06:59,910 --> 03:07:05,310
like to dress up and feel in so
maybe now y'all send a treat me

3104
03:07:05,340 --> 03:07:09,420
with the respect which which I
deserve because I'm more than

3105
03:07:09,420 --> 03:07:14,580
just the mayor. From now on. I
am the grand architect of New

3106
03:07:14,580 --> 03:07:18,360
York City. But don't tell nobody

3107
03:07:24,210 --> 03:07:27,660
about the carbon emission in
today's broken Libya with 10k

3108
03:07:27,660 --> 03:07:31,770
debt and floods how many are
missing? or a natural disaster

3109
03:07:31,770 --> 03:07:35,220
pointing out the inconsistencies
is what I'm after we recently

3110
03:07:35,220 --> 03:07:39,270
went away had no fear but be
brave Don't you know it's gonna

3111
03:07:39,270 --> 03:07:45,600
change corrupt initiatives for
sadness in many ways even though

3112
03:07:45,600 --> 03:07:49,170
control of Berkeley we're not
surprised. Listen to the podcast

3113
03:07:49,170 --> 03:07:52,530
is open up your eyes never
really works satellite phones

3114
03:07:52,530 --> 03:07:56,160
and fire hurricane superstorms
don't apologize. These jerks

3115
03:07:56,160 --> 03:07:59,460
tell us the alarm. No alert
system was activated O'Brien The

3116
03:07:59,460 --> 03:08:03,390
rocks PSA should be more hated
asking the public to donate to

3117
03:08:03,390 --> 03:08:06,810
the cause while purchasing land
at tax shelter created the laws.

3118
03:08:07,350 --> 03:08:10,740
You might learn to lean into the
tech dry hydrants producing the

3119
03:08:10,740 --> 03:08:16,830
water one time $700 Check given
to the people used as fodder may

3120
03:08:16,830 --> 03:08:20,010
or was a dipshits that continue
to scrape pushing not the people

3121
03:08:20,010 --> 03:08:23,070
you are burning their mouth and
you will not get away with it.

3122
03:08:23,430 --> 03:08:27,390
Or we call it 911 2.0 Hey never
dies it just hives.

3123
03:08:30,360 --> 03:08:33,810
Did you know there are over 40
different types of melons out

3124
03:08:33,810 --> 03:08:34,140
there

3125
03:08:34,140 --> 03:08:36,990
John C Dvorak: Kevin McLaughlin
in Concord North Carolina says

3126
03:08:36,990 --> 03:08:40,020
honey do melons he just wrote
that in there for some reason.

3127
03:08:40,050 --> 03:08:43,800
He likes melons, Golden
Delicious melons, the Gallia

3128
03:08:43,800 --> 03:08:49,530
melon corn, melons melons that
are there in the world. Over

3129
03:08:49,530 --> 03:08:53,700
four different types of melons
are trying to show off your

3130
03:08:53,700 --> 03:08:59,790
melons ladies. Honey globe,
melons, honey globe and melons

3131
03:08:59,790 --> 03:09:04,500
tasty camouflage melons, peppers
and aisle three camouflage

3132
03:09:04,500 --> 03:09:10,860
melons Jade melon donation J do
is another literal melon and

3133
03:09:10,860 --> 03:09:13,590
I've had those are pretty good.
I think the trustor nouns my

3134
03:09:13,590 --> 03:09:13,980
favorite.

3135
03:09:14,370 --> 03:09:15,510
Adam Curry: You just love
melons,

3136
03:09:15,930 --> 03:09:20,610
John C Dvorak: Castle melon
Calabash melons, that's Calabash

3137
03:09:20,640 --> 03:09:24,660
melons that kiss melon has got a
big tongue that comes out of it

3138
03:09:24,660 --> 03:09:30,720
the papaya melon, Balan melon
that you Bari King melon autumn

3139
03:09:30,720 --> 03:09:35,490
suites, Autumn suites the melons
of choice for connoisseurs gonna

3140
03:09:35,490 --> 03:09:40,170
run out of melons by the melon
varieties. I think this budding

3141
03:09:40,770 --> 03:09:46,500
watermelon yet exactly. can pull
a melon from another one I've

3142
03:09:46,500 --> 03:09:47,340
never heard of.

3143
03:09:47,490 --> 03:09:50,070
Adam Curry: But how long will he
be able to come up with melon

3144
03:09:50,070 --> 03:09:50,580
names?

3145
03:09:52,050 --> 03:09:53,370
John C Dvorak: Korean melons

3146
03:09:53,400 --> 03:09:55,170
Adam Curry: I love his melon
assortment

3147
03:09:55,230 --> 03:09:55,710
Unknown: gak

3148
03:09:55,890 --> 03:09:59,430
John C Dvorak: melons, the
ananassa melon zero head one

3149
03:09:59,550 --> 03:10:03,540
this one Right to melon
Charentais melons which is

3150
03:10:03,540 --> 03:10:06,600
literally a melon. Kevin
McLaughlin is back this time

3151
03:10:06,600 --> 03:10:09,750
promoting this melon for you
keeping score

3152
03:10:19,410 --> 03:10:25,920
Unknown: Vora vorak.org/in A how
do we trust these guys?

