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John C Dvorak: This is what
broadcasting has become. Adam

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curry, John C. Devora.

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Adam Curry: September 24 2023.
This is your award winning give

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our nation media assassination
episode 1593. This

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Unknown: is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: We're all out of
room and we're broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here. And reason number

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six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where everybody

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notices that they steal material
from us. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Oh, do we
have another theft report?

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John C Dvorak: I got a three
part clip.

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Adam Curry: Well, a three part
clip of them of them, whoever

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whoever them is, Steve, a

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John C Dvorak: news Australia
guy new stealing

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Adam Curry: from us. Please

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Unknown: know that it gives me
no great pleasure to report

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this. But this week, the world
got an up close look at Joe

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Biden appears that he really is
coming apart before our eyes.

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The occasion for this
examination was the annual

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meeting of the UN General
Assembly in New York, when the

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world's leaders gather at that
great temple of uselessness that

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is the United Nations to put on
a show to convince the rest of

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us they know what they're doing.

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Adam Curry: So hello, hello
Phoebe's Okay, so already,

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they're stealing our our setup.
Phoebe? Yes, I know. It's Sky

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News, Australia. They're
thieves. Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: I don't blame her
for marking Me neither.

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Unknown: Good luck with that.
And of course, leading the pack

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here was our man, Joe Biden.
Here he was addressing the

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leaders of the globe. And I tell
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some of the folks who are doing
simultaneous translations

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of our institutions and drive
creative new partnerships. Let

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me be clear, certain principles
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sanker sacrosanct.

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certain principles about about
your guess is as good as mine.

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Then there was this little
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Brazil, which played out more
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you might hear on talkback
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Wow. And to say

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to President Bae, can you hear
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historical moment for Brazil,
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Are you there? President Biden,
it's me, Margaret Biden, of

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course forgot to shake the
Brazilian President's hand to

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his great delight. Not that
there was this bizarre moment

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when meeting with Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Joe

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Biden made the side of the cross
check that over 40 years our

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friendship goes a long way and
take us a long way. I'm sorry,

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let's just see that again. This
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Had enough faith in but Gora
note that it is also in this

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meeting that Bibi Netanyahu
spoke off the cuff while Biden

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of course needed those note
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speak because we know what
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Adam Curry: You know, except we
do it in less time than these

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guys tell.

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John C Dvorak: This is the
point. This is actually a well

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structured shaggy dog story, the
punch lines in clip three. But

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it's a shaggy dog story, and
you'll see how it's structured

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at the very end. Go to two

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Unknown: meanwhile, Kamala
Harris, the woman whose mere

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existence as vice president
makes the Secret Service's job

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so easy, well, she's just making
friends everywhere she goes, You

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when we think about minority,
small business owners and let's

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be more specific about Latinos
mound is just Yes, it is.

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Restaurants but it is so much
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So basically there if you read
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thinks that Latinos just don't
taco stands or something, I

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guess. Which means that when she
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breakfast burritos at one time,
she was just thinking, hold my

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beer. Now, at this point, I
gotta wonder, is this whole

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shambling, stuttering clumsy
Biden routine? I mean, look,

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it's declined, but maybe it's
not. Could it be that there's

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something else entirely going
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actually putting on an act. So
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don't realize that he is the
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sort of behind the scenes
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Joe Biden is playing it up like
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pressure builds to allow him to
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be forced to keep doing the job
to please Jill or whomever it

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is. I don't know.

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Adam Curry: I know where this is
leading. I know we're

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John C Dvorak: finding a classic
shaggy dog story and you do it

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once in a while on the show. You
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two or three of them and they've
Kamla Harris materials got

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nothing to do with anything. But
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shaggy dog to kind of keep the
person interested by trying it

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by me. Making semi interesting
little asides, but here's the

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part where they steal our
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Unknown: Sometimes just
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reminds me a little bit of the
old New York City mobster,

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Vincent Chin Gigante, for years
threw off the authorities, by

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putting a lot of public acts
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himself a harmless shuffling
mentally ill wanderer, when in

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fact, he was a criminal
mastermind in charge of a whole

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criminal enterprise. From a
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family, John Puglisi explained
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Besides taking trips to
psychiatric hospitals, chin was

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known to wander around Greenwich
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pajamas, a bathrobe and house
slippers muttering gibberish, he

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talked to telephone poles and
parking meters and urinate at

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will in the street, and at
times, randomly dropped to his

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knees and cross himself

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randomly making the side of the
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just a coincidence.

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You mean, though he actually
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Adam Curry: back they stole from
you is what you're saying.

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John C Dvorak: But I admire the
the structure of what they did,

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especially with the call back to
the sign of the cross. Which

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guarantee I guess, supposedly,

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Adam Curry: okay, I didn't know
that. That part I'd never heard.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. So Ben
died. And Biden does it all the

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Adam Curry: Dude, that show I
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one. It's just all a show. I'm
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all show is the show. And maybe,
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get better. Let me see. Maybe it
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taken care of. Where am I here?
Yes. Oh, my. The Hollywood

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Unknown: writers union plans to
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straight day, as a source tells
NBC that they are inching toward

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a deal to end the nearly five
month long strike for studio

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heads join the talks for a
second day yesterday, staying

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late. It was a 10 hour marathon
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in areas such as the use of
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residuals. However, some
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to reach a crop contract deal
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walked out in mid July.

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Adam Curry: And no one noticed.
And no one cared. No one no one

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is complaining. Well, we had one
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from a producer, a dad who said
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producer. And once an editor can
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person who's complained about
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John C Dvorak: This, it's like
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but they don't listen to our
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Adam Curry: it's a tipping
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There's tipping points about a
boot tipping point everywhere

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where it peak Ukraine war, we're
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heads down in this stuff, we're
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and re examining what the media
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trying to say what the towards,
you know, the it's the elite

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messaging system is trying to
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go to work, you know, drive the
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know, whatever, drive the plane,
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and then thing they may catch
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depending on what what bubble
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that you know, something about
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and you know, whatever the topic
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lives. So it takes and we
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episode takes a long time before
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out, like COVID for instance,
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this isn't a number of people
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people like me know, you know,
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how that stuff didn't work. And
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And yeah, I'm I'm questioning
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this moment. Everybody is slowly
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second. Who are all these people
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country. I have story after
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seekers, and the issues that
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France, Lampedusa, Italy,
Germany. The the President said

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we've reached our limit of
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more, no more in Lampedusa,
Sweden. It's like we have gang

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warfare. We can't have this
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Unknown: the French interior
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arrived in Rome on Monday to
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crisis with his Italian
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tighten EU border security step
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traffickers at the sandy joint
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Because there's been so much
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politicians need short fixes
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are on top of it doesn't work
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public opinion that these are
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resources and different
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the time for which suspects
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can be detained and
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opportunities to repatriate
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Adam Curry: It is so bad in
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which has been going on for
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migrants and not to treat them
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message ahead of a Saturday mass
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The Pope used his visit to the
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into the migrant debate as
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new arrivals. 10s of 1000s
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mass a mass worship has packed
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sermon with a message proved
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and migrants. He's urging
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people arriving on the shores
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cities, and many European
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different cultures and religions
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challenge against the
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and the selfishness, and
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and suffering.

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recent weeks have seen a sharp
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to cross the Mediterranean to
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pleased to welcome those
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policies of many EU governments.
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with worshipers in my say, a
fourth setting which has long

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been a meeting point as a
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Adam Curry: The Guardian just
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like Oh, okay.

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John C Dvorak: Where's the
communist?

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Adam Curry: Well, yes, he's a
he's a Jesuit from Argentina.

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This we knew this is now we know
why he's in there. This is his

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job now. Oh, no, everything's
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would not really your neighbors,
but okay. Now they are. They

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weren't your neighbors when they
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anything about bad about the
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John C Dvorak: I mean, come on
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Well, the this is not this what
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Marxist revolution that's taking
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redistribution of wealth by
bringing in Yes. Every poor

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person in the world you can
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Adam Curry: Yes, he changed the
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China. Everyone's gone
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communicate with lay down we
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police step up migration patrols
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Guardian writes, migration could
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John C Dvorak: In there's always
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Adam Curry: The home office in
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know, if we have if we have
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have at minimum a three star
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angry and this has been going on
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David Cameron, this is a clip
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remembers him saying this? What
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Unknown: about to say, is drawn
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I believe there are general
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Some young men find it hard to
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Islam practiced at home by their
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staid when when transplanted to
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these young men also find it
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too, because we've allowed the
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identity. Under the doctrine of
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encouraged different cultures to
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each other. And apart from the
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vision of society to which they
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even tolerated these segregated
communities, behaving in ways

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that run completely counter to
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Adam Curry: And this is Cameron
over the UK might as well have

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been about Germany, about Sweden
about anywhere in France.

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Unknown: So when a white person
holds objectionable views, race

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us, but we're getting there, we
rightly condemned them getting

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Adam Curry: getting to those
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Unknown: level views or
practices come from someone who

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isn't right. We've been too
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fearful to stand up to them.

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Adam Curry: So that he this is
the speech where he winds up by

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saying multiculturalism has
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now Now people because no who's
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2011? If you're just doing your
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trying to live life. Now. People
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Chicago, the big sanctuary city
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Unknown: as the city looks to
move migrants to 10 cities. This

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new contract reveals Chicago has
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Adam Curry: So this is for the
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been talking about the past
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any vote or anything. The mayor
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this garter world, its security
company they have no experience

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with migrants, refugees, asylum
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do is different types of
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personality security. This is
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Unknown: Even the mayor's point
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I do recognize that an executive
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agile in a moment of crisis so I
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quickly. Clearly, we all have
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The fine print of the deal
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security three meals a day,
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week, Van transport to school
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Adam Curry: This is the city
this is the same company but

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this is the same company that
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Unknown: he notes Garda is
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contractor by the state of
Illinois. This is a contract

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that the state has started. They
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Adam Curry: like busing my
transit to the state they're

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continuing to and so we
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it the city of Denver pulled out
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similar type provisions for
migrant citing, quote, concerns

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grew about the international
company's history of alleged

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abuses and mistreatment as well
as its lack of experience in

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sheltering migrants. Alderman
Ray Lopez questions why Garda?

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The same company that has a
Florida contract to send

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migrants here. Now we'll make
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we're spending $29 million on a
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won't even function in sub zero
weather Chicago style. It's just

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amazing to me,

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the contract also displays
photos of what the base camps

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will look like, with promises
when the temperature is 40

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degrees, it will be 70 degrees
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Adam Curry: that, John, you've
lived in Chicago, it's 40

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degrees, a typical Chicago
winter. No, more like 20

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degrees, more like zero, it's
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inside it will be 70. What's it
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Unknown: Also today, elected
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to the Biden administration to
allow some migrants those from

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Venezuela, July to apply for
work permits. They want that

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extended to more than just now
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the 14,000 migrants sent here.
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Adam Curry: Alright, so this is
I don't this is very

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interesting. All of a sudden,
oh, Venezuelans are okay. Hmm.

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How did this happen? Something
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do with the cities. As you can
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from New York City Mayor Eric
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that the President's coming to
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Unknown: President Biden is
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that he understands this
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engine of the entire country.
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Adam Curry: is New York, the
economic engine of the entire

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John C Dvorak: I think if
they're there, they're probably

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putting all their eggs in the
financial bath. Oh, God make the

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argument. Okay,

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Unknown: it's been saddled with
a $2 billion that we spent

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already $5 billion were going to
spend in his fiscal crisis $12

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billion in the next two
budgetary cycles. New York don't

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don't deserve this. The asylum
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so while he's here, I think that
they should really reflect on

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New York City has done his spot
and where once we know what I'm

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going to do, we released the
public schedule. I'm very

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public, everybody knows who I am
you guys. were released. We're

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going to be with you The
president or not?

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Adam Curry: President you know,
I'm here I got the schedule. You

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can meet me anytime you want.
No, he's been sidelined HK role

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is in charge of this operation
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Unknown: because New York City
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old right to shelter people have
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that's another area, the mayor
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together. And we are looking at
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way that we can say this was
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stay off the streets help
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intended to be an unlimited
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to shelter the entire world. And
that's the way it's been

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interpreted. So once that gets
fixed, as well as this

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opportunity to the Venezuelan
opportunity to take a lot of

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pressure off, but we really need
to stop the incoming we're still

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seeing about 3000 a week. That's
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Adam Curry: So I want to get
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something happened. There was a
switch it must have happened

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months ago and word went out.
Venezuelans come on in

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Unknown: deteriorating
conditions in Latin America,

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made worse by the COVID 19
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number of people crossing into
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and Venezuela and Rodrigo de has
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city of quietism. Friday, he is
just happy to be alive after

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riding the beast train a
dangerous free trade that

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migrants take to the border.

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Adam Curry: Just living off
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any foods. And later I had to
sell my show so I could eat.

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Unknown: But there's hope the
Biden administration has

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announced that they would allow
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already in the United States to
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flow of immigration. On Tuesday,
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temporarily suspended the B
strain because so many migrants

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are climbing aboard and getting
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Adam Curry: So this beast train
reminiscent of you know, trains

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in India, everybody totally
hanging off of it. So, so

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somewhere something happened and
this is this is a setup. This is

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a setup. And New York is going
to suffer but New Yorkers are

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going to suffer. Because of all
of a sudden we they were

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telegraphing this when AOC was
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Roosevelt, the Roosevelt Hotel,
which I've loved the reports

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about the Roosevelt held the
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know, if you've if you've ever
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It's far from luxurious, but
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central notice the subtle switch
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Venezuelans will be able to stay
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was saying, I guess a path to
citizenship. Luckily, New York

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one got Hoko on the phone. This
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station, and I have a couple of
clips and maybe we can figure

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Unknown: Thanks for being here
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night. I'm Cheryl wills. And we
begin with breaking news as we

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come on the air out of
Washington, the Biden

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administration announcing just
moments ago, that it will make

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hundreds of 1000s of Venezuelan
migrants eligible for legal

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status and work permits, it will
impact nearly a half million

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asylum seekers. More than 40% of
migrants who have come through

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the city since the immigration
crisis began are Venezuelan

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Mayor Adams responding tonight
saying I want to thank President

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Biden for hearing our entire
coalition including our hard

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working congressional
delegation, and taking this

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important step that will bring
hope to the 1000s of Venezuelan

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asylum seekers currently in our
care who will now be immediately

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eligible for Temporary Protected
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Adam Curry: What happened in
Venezuela that all of a sudden

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we had to let them in to come
here and work? Do you have any

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idea?

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John C Dvorak: Well, it was, it
was it's their government that

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that bankrupted the state, the
Maduro regime and communist

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government that drove all these
people. That middle class of

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Venezuela drove them into
poverty. And I think we allowed

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them to come in because we tried
to overturn that government if

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you don't remember that yes, a
few years ago with that skinny

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guy who is useless and and so I
think somewhere along the line

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we told him to open the spigot,
yeah, you can come in. This only

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thing I can think of that I
think is a huge mistake for the

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Democrats because these people
can easily become Republicans

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Adam Curry: will listen to these
next few clips of Hokulea. She

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talks about why this has to
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Unknown: Governor thank you for
your time tonight. We understand

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this new TPS status that

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Adam Curry: TPS status is
typically for see we have TPS

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status and it's always limited
by the way, there's always a

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limitation. We had it for
Haitians after the earthquake. I

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think that's just been extended,
extended extended. There's been

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other TPS, but this this is a

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John C Dvorak: way started
referred to the TPS report being

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Unknown: available. Yeah, that'd
be great to Venezuelan migrants

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and asylum seekers is a result
of your conversation with

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President Biden yesterday. Can
you give us some insight into

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that conversation?

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President knows we have been

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asking for back from July of
2020. To between myself and

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Mayor Adams and majority leader
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and our delegation.

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Adam Curry: Okay. So all of the
New Yorkers, Schumer,

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Gillibrand, they've been asking
for this since 2022, to have

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Venezuelans come in and work
here instead of, I don't know,

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New Yorkers,

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Unknown: we've all been working
so hard to persuade the White

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House that these individuals who
came to this country and are

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living in New York City
shelters, don't have to they

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came here to work.

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Adam Curry: That's not what
asylum is about. Asylum is for

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very specific circumstances, not
work. That's a work, migrant,

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that's not an asylum seeker.

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Unknown: And if we could find a
path, particularly for the

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Venezuelans, which is about 40%
of the population or shelter, if

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they could get temporary
protective status, that allows

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them to work after 30 days,
instead of after 180. We can

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start to clear out the shelters
and give them the jobs. And it

451
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also serves the purpose of
meeting this demand we have for

452
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Republicans in every corner of
New York.

453
00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:55,950
Adam Curry: What serving the
purpose of Republican the

454
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demands of Republicans. Am I
hearing this? Correct?

455
00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:02,820
John C Dvorak: That's what it
sounded like. But it can't be

456
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it, we can

457
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Unknown: start to clear out the
shelters and give them the jobs.

458
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And it also serves the purpose
of meeting this demand we have

459
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for Republicans in every corner
of New York for more workers.

460
00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:18,330
Adam Curry: So the Republicans
in every corner of New York want

461
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:22,710
more workers and the demands are
met by bringing in Venezuelans

462
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who have temporary protective
status.

463
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John C Dvorak: I don't know what
we did some she tried to say

464
00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:32,280
something else. She couldn't
possibly that sentence makes

465
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zero sense. Well, I'm wondering
why she right. Why did you do

466
00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:39,930
anything to the demands of any
Republican?

467
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,660
Adam Curry: Well, I think she's
the only way I can interpret it.

468
00:27:42,660 --> 00:27:45,600
And we have an another clip
after this is that she means

469
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Republicans who have no need
workers. Let me see. Forget,

470
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:54,840
even if we take away the
Republican part. They aren't

471
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they're New Yorkers who want to
work on their people from other

472
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states who want to work and will
move to New York to work.

473
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John C Dvorak: It's got to be
just a it's like a typo.

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Unknown: This is an important
step. I thank the President for

475
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answering our call for help.
This is an important first step.

476
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We have other requests still out
there, no doubt about it. And

477
00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:17,790
we'll continue those
conversations. But the state is

478
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committed to coming to work with
Mayor Adams to ensure that these

479
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people are connected to jobs. As
soon as they legally can.

480
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:26,280
They're able to work.

481
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,440
Adam Curry: So we're, I mean,

482
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John C Dvorak: this is what has
to have happened when we did

483
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that file up in Venezuela, where
we try to overturn Maduro and

484
00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:42,510
bringing the Obama guy and bring
into Obama. Exactly. That's

485
00:28:42,510 --> 00:28:45,240
right. That's the guy looked
like Obama, that guy kind of

486
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,020
acted like,

487
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,060
Adam Curry: we just pretended
that he that he was the

488
00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:49,530
president for a while too. We
just

489
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,640
John C Dvorak: can't he was the
president. We had to have to get

490
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,530
support. Ah, now your State
Department had to do deals.

491
00:28:58,530 --> 00:29:01,680
Yeah. We'll let we'll let all
your prisoners back. You have

492
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Don't worry what if anything bad
happens. You can come here.

493
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,370
We'll give you a job.

494
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,270
Adam Curry: Yeah. Send your
prisoners here. Open up the

495
00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:12,870
floodgates. Well, Governor
Holcomb is excited.

496
00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:15,210
Unknown: And I'm really excited
about this opportunity to start

497
00:29:15,210 --> 00:29:18,870
making a dent in something that
New Yorkers have been dealing

498
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:23,250
with for a long time. And I want
to make sure that we can ensure

499
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they're able to work and we've
been saying, get them to work.

500
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Let them work. This has been our

501
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920
Adam Curry: how many New Yorkers
have been saying this, get them

502
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,370
that we need. We need
Venezuelan, we need Venezuelans

503
00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:37,470
to work wreck and get them to
work a

504
00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:40,350
Unknown: rallying cry for such a
long time in the business

505
00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:42,210
community. Cathy whilst

506
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,570
Adam Curry: there she says it's
been a cry in the business

507
00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:46,530
community crying

508
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Unknown: for such a long time in
the business community. Kathy

509
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,280
wild and a partnership stepped
up. Our friends and labor have

510
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,780
been extremely helpful all
across New York. Many people

511
00:29:57,780 --> 00:30:00,600
just want them to be able to
work and fill a hole huge void

512
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,860
we have right now. The fact that
1000s and 1000s of jobs foreign

513
00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:07,950
and 60,000 jobs are unfilled,
okay?

514
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,220
Adam Curry: My one of my
stepdaughters is in New York

515
00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:15,900
it's not like a 60,000 She's
it's jobs are not for the just

516
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:20,580
picking up everywhere. It's not
true. I mean waitress even even

517
00:30:21,330 --> 00:30:26,010
jobs serving food. It's not
they're not like a dime a dozen.

518
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:32,280
I don't know about the rest of
New York State. But 460,000 jobs

519
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:35,100
are we're just we can't wait to
get people

520
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,170
John C Dvorak: to work their
days like to hang in there for

521
00:30:37,170 --> 00:30:39,000
the easy pickins Yeah.

522
00:30:40,290 --> 00:30:44,400
Unknown: 1000s of jobs form and
60,000 jobs are unfilled. In the

523
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,950
state of New York right now we
have a low unemployment rate

524
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:50,670
were the lowest in the nation.
We have to have more workers.

525
00:30:50,670 --> 00:30:53,850
And this is going to be a very,
very positive development for

526
00:30:53,850 --> 00:30:57,780
our state's economy. Please
individuals in our desire to

527
00:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,020
start not opening more shelters,
but starting to shut down

528
00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:01,860
shelters. Sorry.

529
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,810
Adam Curry: So now we're gonna
start everyone. You're not

530
00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:08,130
Venezuelan. You're out. We're
gonna kick you out. And where

531
00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:10,590
are you gonna go? Well, Governor
hopeful knows.

532
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:14,400
Unknown: And Governor, what's
your message to the 10s of 1000s

533
00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:19,290
of asylum seekers and migrants
who are not from Venezuela, who

534
00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:22,020
may be disappointed that they
are not included?

535
00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:24,300
Adam Curry: Go pound sand?

536
00:31:25,470 --> 00:31:28,290
Unknown: Well, this is something
that we're just happy to even

537
00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:32,460
get this foot in the door. We
have been asking for a reduction

538
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:35,880
in time for all the work status
for everyone. But

539
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,360
John C Dvorak: kind of a
metaphor is that we're just

540
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,480
getting a foot into what foot
and what door? I got you answer

541
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,610
a question like that. What are
you going to do? Here's the

542
00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:49,530
question, what are you going to
do about all these other people

543
00:31:49,530 --> 00:31:52,800
that aren't Venezuelans? Well,
this is getting a foot in the

544
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,530
door foot in what door? What are
you talking about

545
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Adam Curry: the foot in the door
of replacing Americans with

546
00:31:59,010 --> 00:32:02,790
asylum seekers for work is the
only logical explanation? Oh,

547
00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:07,050
I'm sorry, did I just give you
the big replacement theory? Like

548
00:32:07,050 --> 00:32:07,740
Europe?

549
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:12,840
Unknown: Well, this is something
that we're just happy to even

550
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,010
get this foot in the door. We
have been asking for a reduction

551
00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:19,680
in time for all the work status
for everyone.

552
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:24,390
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. We
want everybody who comes in

553
00:32:24,390 --> 00:32:29,220
seeking asylum to be given jobs.
And we'll connect them with

554
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:30,000
jobs.

555
00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:34,110
Unknown: But I will not look a
gift horse in the mouth. This is

556
00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:37,380
an important first step, and to
others that we have to let

557
00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:40,920
people know, if you're thinking
of coming to New York, we are

558
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,010
truly out of space. The mayor
has done a

559
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,060
John C Dvorak: three way stop.
They're out of space, but they

560
00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:52,680
get plenty of jobs. I know. How
do you have 400 And you know,

561
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:57,630
almost a half a million jobs and
you're out of space. So how are

562
00:32:57,630 --> 00:33:00,750
you supposed to do that makes
zero sense what she just said?

563
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:05,130
Well, because you're coming to
New York, we're out of space. So

564
00:33:05,130 --> 00:33:08,490
I'm a tourist. I can't find a
hotel room. Probably no, you

565
00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:08,790
can't.

566
00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:11,550
Adam Curry: Because the cheapest
hotel the Roosevelt is filled

567
00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:16,320
with asylum seekers. It's right
there. There anyway. But I have

568
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,300
stayed and reeks of weed

569
00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:21,030
Unknown: to others that we have
to let people know that if

570
00:33:21,030 --> 00:33:24,930
you're thinking of coming to New
York, we are truly out of space.

571
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:28,560
The mayor has done an
extraordinary job managing this

572
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,340
crisis situation. We have been
partners in helping him. But

573
00:33:32,370 --> 00:33:33,900
there must be other cities.

574
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:37,320
Adam Curry: Oh, that's the
solution. There must be other

575
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,190
cities, Attention, attention,
other cities, we've got some

576
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:43,140
asylum seekers coming your way

577
00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:49,110
Unknown: or do not have upwards
of 125,000 people, or 60,000 in

578
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:53,070
shelters that can handle the
volume easier in other states.

579
00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:54,270
And that's what we want to
encourage you

580
00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:55,980
Adam Curry: to do. Yeah, sure.

581
00:33:56,459 --> 00:33:58,289
John C Dvorak: I have to point
something out. Somebody pointed

582
00:33:58,289 --> 00:34:01,859
one of our producers pointed
this out, according to Abbott,

583
00:34:02,459 --> 00:34:04,799
you know, they're blaming him
for shipping all these people

584
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:08,219
all over the place. But
according to this could be

585
00:34:08,219 --> 00:34:13,439
wrong. But I'm sure it's closer
to right and then not. According

586
00:34:13,439 --> 00:34:18,299
to him. He's been shipping
people to Chicago and beer and

587
00:34:18,299 --> 00:34:22,199
they're all over the place. His
total CAD count supposedly, like

588
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:27,089
say New York is just over 10,000
I heard 16,000 Yeah. Okay, let's

589
00:34:27,089 --> 00:34:31,229
say it's 16,000 They've got
100,000 there Where did all

590
00:34:31,229 --> 00:34:36,599
these other ones How did they
get shipped there? Biden. Yes,

591
00:34:36,659 --> 00:34:40,949
blame Abbott and the Texans who
is bullcrap they get nothing

592
00:34:40,949 --> 00:34:42,659
very little to do with it.

593
00:34:44,130 --> 00:34:45,210
Adam Curry: 19 seconds left,

594
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:51,390
Unknown: do not have upwards of
125,000 people over 60,000 in

595
00:34:51,390 --> 00:34:55,350
shelters that can handle the
volume easier in other states

596
00:34:55,350 --> 00:34:57,540
and that's what we want to
encourage people to do. This has

597
00:34:57,540 --> 00:35:01,980
a cut off date. This has a
there's a time limit on it. So

598
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,980
the people that are here will be
able to benefit. But those who

599
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:08,220
come after have to understand
that it's a different dynamic

600
00:35:08,220 --> 00:35:11,250
here in New York that we have
been generous. We have been

601
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,110
humanitarian in our response.
That's who we are. We're at

602
00:35:16,110 --> 00:35:16,890
capacity.

603
00:35:18,359 --> 00:35:22,169
Adam Curry: So now it all comes
home to roost and I'm, I'm very,

604
00:35:22,169 --> 00:35:27,209
I'm truly, I sad for these
people who get on the beast

605
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,709
train, and who've traveled here
under great duress,

606
00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:34,080
John C Dvorak: and they're in
gondolas. It looks like they're

607
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,640
headed to Auschwitz.

608
00:35:36,330 --> 00:35:38,970
Adam Curry: And in a way they
kind of are. I mean, it's,

609
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,620
you're going from the fat into
the fire. I have seen this

610
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:48,870
happen in Europe for over 25
years. I remember I moved back

611
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:53,820
in 99, United almost 25 years.
The end the Netherlands was

612
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:56,670
never an immigration country. We
are an immigration country in

613
00:35:56,670 --> 00:36:01,350
America, but asylum seekers is
different. You want to come into

614
00:36:01,350 --> 00:36:04,920
America, please go through the
process. So that has just been

615
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,200
ignored and stimulated and you
know, the United Nations the una

616
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,470
I think United Nations migrant
agency, they're the ones that

617
00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:16,890
are helping people giving them
debit cards to get I mean, this

618
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,210
is it. This is a globalist
takeover. And finally people are

619
00:36:21,210 --> 00:36:25,500
starting to see it and it's here
to win Littlefoot is seeing it

620
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:28,920
yes nuts No, no, it's not this
is this is what I started my

621
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,120
preamble by saying people said
they aren't Yes, people are

622
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,680
seeing it now. The Texans have
seen it for a long time. And and

623
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:41,250
and finally people are going
hey, I mean here in

624
00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:47,190
Fredericksburg, but El Paso in
other border towns, no, this is

625
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:53,250
going to explode. And I don't
know about New York. But there's

626
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:58,320
a number of Chicago seams on
edge now on edge and people are

627
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,860
not going to stand for it and I
mean this this has to end it

628
00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:07,320
will end one way or the other
but it's when I don't think

629
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,750
anyone in America is going to
let it come to Swedish

630
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:15,000
proportions that's why we have
guns which is why they're trying

631
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,430
to take them away of course. But
this yeah COVID All this other

632
00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:23,340
stuff people can disagree but
now you're seeing across the

633
00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:26,850
political spectrum and probably
extreme left and extreme right

634
00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:31,320
are our bonding together on
these things like ah hold on we

635
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:40,860
got to stop Okay, guys, you said
you you had some immigration

636
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:43,500
stuff from the last episode I
thought you would have those in

637
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:44,700
but you would be Oh, I

638
00:37:44,850 --> 00:37:46,860
John C Dvorak: probably have to
go back to the last episode

639
00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:53,910
list. I didn't move them over Do
I Have you said you had some so

640
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:56,730
obviously I do. This is Oh,
yeah, this is what this is

641
00:37:56,730 --> 00:37:59,340
basically the cost of
immigration hearings. You can

642
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:04,140
look it up as cost of
immigration hearing clsd Okay,

643
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:07,440
yes, I have an h i am not
spelling because he can't

644
00:38:07,470 --> 00:38:10,920
because Adam can't spell is
because I have to spell these

645
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,080
things out. Because half the
time that I'll spell something

646
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,540
and in fact, in this case, I got
capital Oh. I have to spell out

647
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:23,040
because I tend to typo to the to
a max.

648
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,010
Adam Curry: Well, it's okay from
episode to episode. But you

649
00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:29,100
know, five years from now, it'd
be like what was that clear

650
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:30,270
John C Dvorak: problem.

651
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,810
Unknown: lawmakers expressed
contrasting opinions during the

652
00:38:33,810 --> 00:38:36,990
House Committee on Homeland
Security's hearing called the

653
00:38:36,990 --> 00:38:40,920
financial cost of May Yorker
says open border on Wednesday,

654
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:44,130
lawmakers examined the cost of
the millions of illegal

655
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,500
immigrants crossing into the
United States.

656
00:38:46,529 --> 00:38:50,669
This crisis has cost Texas $5
billion last year $5 billion

657
00:38:50,969 --> 00:38:54,329
this year, nine to $10 billion
next year.

658
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:58,560
Lawmakers also expressed how the
issue is impacting citizens

659
00:38:58,620 --> 00:39:01,260
Adam Curry: in Brooks County,
Texas. sherpani Martinez said

660
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,310
that county officials took pay
cuts in order to afford the cost

661
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:09,210
of burying or cremating illegal
aliens found deceased on the US

662
00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:12,330
side of the border man think
about that. Why can't we just

663
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:14,250
turn them into March? Gonna make
them mad? Just

664
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,470
John C Dvorak: stop there
because we need to make them

665
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:21,930
your mulch. Yeah, what happened
to that idea mulch? That's bull

666
00:39:21,930 --> 00:39:26,550
crap. I don't believe that for a
minute. I'm going to take a pay

667
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:32,430
cut. So I can cremate these
corpses that are here there's

668
00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:33,990
got to be funding for that.

669
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:39,090
Adam Curry: The name who is this

670
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,990
John C Dvorak: word that was the
source of this new story.

671
00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:44,970
Adam Curry: Now what is this?
Yes, it

672
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John C Dvorak: knows about Texas
some guys in Texas. Just play

673
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the end of it again. You'll see
what I mean. Okay

674
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Adam Curry: here we go.
cremating illegal aliens found

675
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deceased go back in order to
afford worth the cost of burying

676
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or cremating illegal aliens
found deceased on the US side of

677
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the border? Think think about
that. They took a pay cut just

678
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to bury the dead found at the
border. Now this is this is just

679
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,590
show business for Ugly people.
Oh, yeah. Think about that. When

680
00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:19,470
you someone says think about
that. You're trying to compute

681
00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:22,980
trying to tell people create the
image in your mind people taking

682
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pay cuts, because they're so
humanitarian. There's some some

683
00:40:28,410 --> 00:40:28,770
errors.

684
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John C Dvorak: I said, It's bull
crap. But anyway, let's go into

685
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clip to

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Unknown: one of the witnesses
shared details about the

687
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situation in Yuma, Arizona. We
have seen

688
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women approaching the border in
labor. I've witnessed that

689
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multiple times.

690
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Adam Curry: This is also just
all show just you know, bringing

691
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the human aspect Oh, it's
disgusting, to the point where

692
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our emergency room and our
maternity ward was overrun.

693
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Unknown: Some lawmakers pointed
to New York City Eric Adams

694
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recent comments on the
immigration crisis which took

695
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center stage at the hearing.
Never in

696
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my life. Have I had a problem
that I did not see an end into.

697
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,660
I don't see an end into this. I
don't see an ending to this.

698
00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:19,080
This issue will destroy New York
City, destroy New York City.

699
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:22,890
Adams recently said New York
City is expected to spend about

700
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$5 billion this year and 6
billion next year to provide for

701
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,540
the immigrants. And the
Mississippi Congressman tried to

702
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put the cost in perspective.

703
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So the information you have
provided to us says that New

704
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:42,030
York will spend next year almost
as much money as the entire

705
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state of Mississippi spends to
find our entire state

706
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government.

707
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But Democrats at the hearing
said the immigrants are helping

708
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,460
with the labor shortage and
Representative Daliah. Ramirez

709
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:57,090
said One Day Without Immigrants
would cause the US economy to

710
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collapse

711
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yet, we want to talk about how
much they're costing us. Here's

712
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the thing, work permits.
Immigration reform, oh, they're

713
00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:10,170
adequate visa so that people
don't have to come here

714
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:13,770
illegally. These are all
solutions that work to make this

715
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country, the country of American
Dream, the country of freedom

716
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and the country of the future.

717
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Adam Curry: Oh, the country of
the future. Well, this was what

718
00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:28,110
America has always been. But
you're supposed to come in

719
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through. I mean, I have helped
many people come in legally.

720
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John C Dvorak: Well, they're
due. I'm just going to go back

721
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to California here for a second.
Yes. We used to have a program

722
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that all was so bad because the
liberals were against it, even

723
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though they're all for this,
which was called the Brasero

724
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:49,980
program, the Brasero program.
Yeah. So the Brasero is that

725
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this ended in I don't know. I
don't know. I think it ended up

726
00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:56,520
in Reagan's governorship. I'm
not sure when it ended. But it

727
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,430
just ended because the liberals
were all against it, even though

728
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they're okay with what's going
on now. The Brasero program was

729
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:09,570
buses and buses of agricultural
laborers that yes, yes. Up from

730
00:43:09,570 --> 00:43:16,080
Mexico and kept up in the fields
in the in the wineries and they

731
00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:19,980
cabbage fields, they let us
fields, tomato fields indicate

732
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:26,130
kept there and in kind of two
lousy housing. And then, at the

733
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:29,400
end of the season, the growing
season, the Brasero rose would

734
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,850
be bussed back to Mexico.
Everybody was happy as a clam

735
00:43:32,850 --> 00:43:33,750
with this idea.

736
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Adam Curry: This end with
Operation Wetback Wasn't that

737
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,110
what what? It was like, oh, it's
trying to send y'all back like 3

738
00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:41,460
million they sent back.

739
00:43:42,209 --> 00:43:45,479
John C Dvorak: No, they always
said to Brasero is back. To

740
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address

741
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:48,390
Adam Curry: the overwhelming
account of undocumented migrants

742
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:50,790
in the United States, the
Immigration and Naturalization

743
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:55,440
Service launched Operation
Wetback in June of 1954 as a way

744
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,800
to repatriate illegal laborers
back to Mexico.

745
00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:01,590
John C Dvorak: So that's not the
Brasero program. It's

746
00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:04,620
Adam Curry: what's under the
Brasero wiki page. I'm not

747
00:44:04,620 --> 00:44:08,790
saying it's correct, but the
Brasero program got out of

748
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:10,530
control. I think that's what
happened.

749
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,100
John C Dvorak: Well, if 54
wasn't a peak of the Brasero it

750
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may have later

751
00:44:15,569 --> 00:44:18,449
Adam Curry: this was 57
operation went back was 57.

752
00:44:19,530 --> 00:44:23,190
John C Dvorak: It may have later
but I vaguely remember the whole

753
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:24,840
thing being it was fine.

754
00:44:25,410 --> 00:44:28,950
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, we I
believe that we had agricultural

755
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,920
people go down to the border and
say you you just like Home

756
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,430
Depot,

757
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John C Dvorak: but you don't go
so far.

758
00:44:35,940 --> 00:44:39,930
Adam Curry: Like you you.
Exactly. You You You boop come

759
00:44:39,930 --> 00:44:42,330
on in you stay three months and
we send you back and they took

760
00:44:42,330 --> 00:44:45,870
their money back. But now it's
like there's no agriculture in

761
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:48,510
New York per se that I'm aware
of it to the you know, like the

762
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wineries and the avocados and,
and the nut trees

763
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:56,460
John C Dvorak: like growing in
New York. I love what we grow to

764
00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:59,430
do everything they have a season
and they have an agricultural

765
00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:03,030
season. So little limited, it's
but they grow everything that we

766
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:04,800
grow in California more or less,
do

767
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Adam Curry: you think that those
400 and the half a million

768
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,250
Venezuelans are all going to be
in agriculture? One didn't

769
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,290
John C Dvorak: even consider
that. Not until you just

770
00:45:13,290 --> 00:45:17,910
mentioned it. That's that would
be ironic, wouldn't it? Now all

771
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:22,590
only Mexicans. Michelle like
Kamla Harris

772
00:45:25,110 --> 00:45:26,970
Adam Curry: is this a kicker you
have on this clip here.

773
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:32,970
Unknown: Recently, a video went
viral that showed migrants

774
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riding on Mexican cargo trains
heading to the United States.

775
00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:40,470
Now that Mexican freight company
has temporarily stopped 60

776
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:44,340
trains because 1000s of migrants
had been hitching rides to the

777
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US border.

778
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Adam Curry: I love the name
beast, Dre. I love that name.

779
00:45:49,290 --> 00:45:51,210
John C Dvorak: What's
interesting about that train is

780
00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:54,660
that just this was just
revealed, like, within the last

781
00:45:54,660 --> 00:45:58,980
week or so, this train is not a
new train. Now it's been around

782
00:45:58,980 --> 00:46:01,740
for a while, it's probably been
moving people, because you

783
00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:06,000
always everyone wonders how
people get from, from Guatemala.

784
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:10,260
And then this is if they walked
the whole way through, you know,

785
00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:15,780
all of Mexico, which is quite a
halls 1000s of miles to get to

786
00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:18,540
the border. And then the all of
these poor people, both they're

787
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:21,720
all jumping on this train, and
it's been going on for a decade

788
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:26,250
or longer and not reported on.
Thank you media.

789
00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:28,470
Adam Curry: So here's part of
the problem. You know, they're

790
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:32,730
saying, Well, I mean, we've
we've had the UN General

791
00:46:32,730 --> 00:46:35,340
Assembly, you know, for the
whole past week, and it's all

792
00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:37,440
it's all been about climate
change, climate change, all

793
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,680
about climate change, everything
climate change. And one of the

794
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,250
lies that is being that the
media tries to slip in, which

795
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,620
doesn't really work, but you
know, they're trying to do it is

796
00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:50,160
these are climate change
refugees? No, they're not there.

797
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,630
They're literally we've heard
just get away with that. No,

798
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:59,400
they're not. But even if want it
to be agriculture, the elites

799
00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:06,870
are, are. What's the term
there's, they're speaking

800
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:10,950
against themselves. They're
contradicting themselves to an

801
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:16,230
incredible degree. And I it's a
shorty, but I have to bring in

802
00:47:16,260 --> 00:47:21,750
the climate czar, who spoke this
week, John Kerry. And he's very

803
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:24,960
clear, we can't have
agriculture. So I don't know

804
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,360
what all these people are going
to do in agriculture, because

805
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:29,250
where we eat will be in bugs.

806
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,610
Unknown: agriculture contributes
about 33% of all the emissions

807
00:47:32,610 --> 00:47:36,930
of the world, just so we know.
It's 33%, depending a little bit

808
00:47:36,930 --> 00:47:40,290
on how you count it, but it's
anywhere from 26 to 33.

809
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,050
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, it's
depending on how you calculate

810
00:47:43,050 --> 00:47:47,370
it. What does that even mean
watermelon? Between 26 and 33?

811
00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:48,630
Well, that's almost 10%.

812
00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:54,060
Unknown: And we can't get to net
zero. We don't get this job

813
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:58,620
done. Unless agriculture is
front and center is part of the

814
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solution. But with a growing
population on the planet, we

815
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,280
just crossed the threshold of 8
billion fellow citizens around

816
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,700
the world. We just crossed that
and this last year, emissions

817
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:13,770
from the food system alone are
projected to cause another half

818
00:48:13,770 --> 00:48:18,450
a degree of warming. Oh, no. By
mid century, on the current

819
00:48:18,450 --> 00:48:19,710
course, that we are today.

820
00:48:19,830 --> 00:48:23,730
Adam Curry: Okay, so with the
agriculture we have, we're going

821
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to burn to death. So we need to
do something a two

822
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,170
Unknown: degree future.

823
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:31,620
Adam Curry: What is a two degree
future? Oh, no.

824
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:35,700
Unknown: could result in an
additional 600 million people

825
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not getting enough to eat?

826
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,220
Adam Curry: So

827
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:40,740
John C Dvorak: if the case care
of itself, then doesn't it?

828
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:46,020
Well, you'd think it's like your
old Peak Oil argument. Remember?

829
00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:49,110
Adam Curry: Yeah, we have too
much agriculture too many

830
00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:52,860
people. So if we keep on going,
we'll have less people sounds

831
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,820
like nature,

832
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,320
Unknown: and you just can't
continue to both warm the planet

833
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,050
while also expecting to feed it.

834
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Adam Curry: Okay. So we can't
have agriculture while expecting

835
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to feed people with agriculture.
But this is literally what he's

836
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saying.

837
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John C Dvorak: So he's, the guy
is off the rails.

838
00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:14,430
Adam Curry: And you know, he has
such a lizard tongue, which, as

839
00:49:14,430 --> 00:49:16,410
we know, you know, the CIA has

840
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John C Dvorak: darting in and
out constantly. Yes, what he's

841
00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:20,100
eating while he's talking.

842
00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:22,980
Adam Curry: Well, what that
means the CIA interrogation

843
00:49:23,010 --> 00:49:25,380
handbook says when someone
sticks their tongue out while

844
00:49:25,380 --> 00:49:28,530
they're speaking, that means
like they're spitting out a lie,

845
00:49:28,530 --> 00:49:32,250
you know, as BS BA and he's
doing this contented, and he

846
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doesn't have a lizard pointy
tongue. It's disgusting,

847
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:38,100
Unknown: doesn't work. So we
have to reduce emissions from

848
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the food system to keep the 1.5
degrees alive. Why do we have to

849
00:49:41,490 --> 00:49:45,180
keep 1.5 degrees? Because
scientists

850
00:49:45,210 --> 00:49:51,390
Adam Curry: Ah, here we go. Why?
Why do we have to keep under

851
00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:56,010
that 1.5 degree of warming?
Because scientists

852
00:49:56,430 --> 00:49:58,980
Unknown: as a basis of physics
and mathematics,

853
00:49:59,010 --> 00:50:01,200
Adam Curry: which is physics
Because the mathematics,

854
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,500
Unknown: not ideology and
politics or party labels or

855
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:09,060
anything else, as a matter of
physics and mathematics, and

856
00:50:09,060 --> 00:50:10,710
some biology and chemistry,

857
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:14,820
Adam Curry: some biology,
Olympiad science is physics,

858
00:50:14,910 --> 00:50:17,910
mathematics, some biology and
chemistry

859
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:22,410
Unknown: told us these are the
consequences. And we already see

860
00:50:22,410 --> 00:50:25,260
it happening. And almost
everything they've predicted for

861
00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:26,760
30 plus years now,

862
00:50:27,570 --> 00:50:28,920
John C Dvorak: has been wrong
way.

863
00:50:29,790 --> 00:50:32,340
Adam Curry: I want to I want
everybody to hear him say this,

864
00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:33,690
because it's great classes.

865
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Unknown: And we already see it
happening. And almost everything

866
00:50:36,750 --> 00:50:41,340
they've predicted for 30 plus
years now is coming true. But

867
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the problem is, it's coming
through faster and bigger Oh,

868
00:50:44,190 --> 00:50:45,150
than was in fact

869
00:50:45,180 --> 00:50:48,330
Adam Curry: predicted. So not
only for the past 30 years has

870
00:50:48,330 --> 00:50:52,500
everything come true. But it's
been coming true faster than

871
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,670
they ever predicted? Faster? I
say. Well, let's let's think

872
00:50:56,670 --> 00:51:01,050
about this. Let's go back to
1978. And listen to Mr. Spock

873
00:51:01,050 --> 00:51:05,490
Leonard Nimoy with his famous
climate change documentary

874
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,950
climate experts believe the next
Ice Age

875
00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:11,460
Unknown: is on its way.
According to recent evidence, it

876
00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:13,800
could come sooner than anyone
can expect.

877
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And weather stations in

878
00:51:17,850 --> 00:51:24,030
the far north, temperatures have
been dropping for 30 years. Long

879
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:29,490
three of summer ice are now
blocked year round. According to

880
00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:33,810
some climatologists, within a
lifetime, we might be living in

881
00:51:33,810 --> 00:51:34,890
the next Ice Age.

882
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:39,750
Adam Curry: Well, John, both you
and I were alive in 1978. within

883
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:42,930
our lifetime has it? Have we
come into the ice age?

884
00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:45,360
John C Dvorak: I haven't seen
anything change,

885
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:51,060
Adam Curry: and no agenda
episodes. 358. Let's go back and

886
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:54,210
listen to what we're talking
about. More than 10 years ago,

887
00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:56,910
we can't really bring up the
fact that you know, it's

888
00:51:56,970 --> 00:51:59,520
everyone's freezing their ass
off in the UK, were we supposed

889
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,330
to have no snow ever again,
children would only know snow

890
00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:06,180
globes, and they would know
movies with snow. That's

891
00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:08,970
John C Dvorak: what they said.
And we have to accept that fact.

892
00:52:08,970 --> 00:52:13,830
And by the way, if there's so
much record heat every year, why

893
00:52:14,190 --> 00:52:17,490
are there only two days left of
natural gas?

894
00:52:21,150 --> 00:52:24,600
Adam Curry: The record heat or
was it snow? I don't know. We in

895
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:32,730
1960s. We knew Paul Ehrlich, who
is still still around, I'm still

896
00:52:32,730 --> 00:52:37,710
working for the White House told
us very clearly, there's too

897
00:52:37,710 --> 00:52:42,030
many people. This, this has
within 10 years it's we're going

898
00:52:42,030 --> 00:52:43,410
to reach a tipping point,

899
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,980
Unknown: the US could be busting
out at the seams by the end of

900
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:51,150
the century. If we do not buy
humane means limit our numbers,

901
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,330
then numbers are going to be
limited by more famines and

902
00:52:54,330 --> 00:52:57,780
shortages and consequent social
conflicts. The idea

903
00:52:57,780 --> 00:53:00,540
that human population was
outstripping the Earth's ability

904
00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:04,170
to support mankind was a
powerful one. And it was one man

905
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,530
Stanford biologists Paul Ehrlich
population growth will kill you

906
00:53:07,530 --> 00:53:11,460
stone cold dead, who pushed the
dramatic message home if we

907
00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:15,690
continue to let population grow.
And if we continue to exploit

908
00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:18,390
the underdeveloped countries, if
we continue to pollute the seas,

909
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:21,990
with a wide variety of compounds
and so on, it's very difficult

910
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:24,270
for me to figure things holding
together for more than another

911
00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:25,080
decade or so.

912
00:53:25,110 --> 00:53:28,740
Adam Curry: Oh, so by 1980, we
should have been in dire straits

913
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:33,810
and dead and completely gone.
But oh, all these predictions,

914
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:36,450
Unknown: and we already see it
happening and almost everything

915
00:53:36,450 --> 00:53:41,040
they've predicted for 30 plus
years now is coming true, but

916
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,160
the problem is it's coming
through faster and bigger than

917
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:44,850
was in fact

918
00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:48,360
Adam Curry: Yes, come on.

919
00:53:48,509 --> 00:53:51,599
John C Dvorak: The funny thing
about air Lake is a book that he

920
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:57,509
did after the did The Population
Bomb which is the race bomb. Oh,

921
00:53:57,509 --> 00:54:00,179
the Rena color prejudiced and
intelligent worse

922
00:54:00,180 --> 00:54:03,930
Adam Curry: these people are out
these the racists I mean that

923
00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:08,610
now we even have our goodness, I
forgot to clip it. There was a

924
00:54:08,610 --> 00:54:12,960
woman on C span. And she called
in she says watermelons are

925
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,940
exploding from climate change.
And it turns out there's some

926
00:54:17,940 --> 00:54:21,660
subpar shipment of watermelons.
And if you leave them out in the

927
00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:25,860
heat, you know, they start to
ferment on the inside. Yeah,

928
00:54:25,860 --> 00:54:28,920
that can happen that can happen
but it's not like global warming

929
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,270
is making watermelons explode
load. It reminds me of okay, I

930
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:37,050
got to do this. Now. This is
because this has to stop with.

931
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:46,260
We are here as conspiracy
therapists to help you and I and

932
00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:50,550
I'm going to help you in a very
specific way. So this has not

933
00:54:50,550 --> 00:54:55,050
stopped this and I think this
this guy Jason Sherpa may be

934
00:54:55,050 --> 00:55:01,050
ground zero of what is the
absolutely In medical

935
00:55:01,050 --> 00:55:08,670
documentation, radiofrequency
activated nano liposomes can be

936
00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:14,700
used for controlled combination
drug delivery. There's what is

937
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:18,690
this article, sound waves power,
new advances in drug delivery

938
00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:21,270
and smart materials. You know,
they've been using ultrasonic

939
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:24,810
waves to kill cancer cells for
quite a while now, although you

940
00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:28,170
don't hear much about it because
God forbid we solve something

941
00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:33,150
rather keep those people sick.
But this guy has got a large

942
00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:36,990
portion of doom scrollers really
riled up,

943
00:55:37,020 --> 00:55:39,150
Unknown: I was asked to share
the following message with the

944
00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:42,750
world. Remember, I'm only the
messenger what you choose to do

945
00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:46,980
with this information is up to
you and your own free will. And

946
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:52,500
October 4 at 2:22pm Eastern
Time, now Emergency Broadcast

947
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:56,550
System will be activated across
the entire United States. Under

948
00:55:56,550 --> 00:56:01,380
the leadership of FEMA disguised
as a test. This test will be

949
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:05,550
used to send a specific high
frequency signal to devices like

950
00:56:05,550 --> 00:56:09,510
smartphones, radios and TVs with
the intention of activating

951
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:12,720
graphene oxide, and other
nanoparticles that have been

952
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:16,230
inserted into billions of human
beings around the world through

953
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:20,100
the obvious mediums are the ones
that will be affected regardless

954
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:23,670
of your status. The plan is to
also do this and Israel at the

955
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:26,880
same exact time. Yeah, there are
certain organizations that are

956
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,850
doing their best to stop this
and both Israel and the United

957
00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:33,360
States. Hopefully, they will be
able to stop this and stopping

958
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,600
this in Israel looks promising.
But stopping this in the United

959
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,870
States is still up in the air.
This will also include Puerto

960
00:56:39,870 --> 00:56:44,910
Rico, Hawaii, and Alaska. Yeah,
the October 4 date does not

961
00:56:44,910 --> 00:56:48,600
occur for any reason, the backup
plan will be to do it on October

962
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,530
11. At the same time, in the
case that this is not able to be

963
00:56:52,530 --> 00:56:56,730
stopped, I asked you all to shut
off your phones and all other

964
00:56:56,730 --> 00:57:01,110
relevant devices at 2pm, Eastern
Time for a period of two hours

965
00:57:01,110 --> 00:57:03,780
to be safe. This type of
wavelength can affect us

966
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:08,070
physically, mentally, and
emotionally. I urge you all to

967
00:57:08,070 --> 00:57:11,910
protect yourself. And I ask you
all to share this video far and

968
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:13,740
wide. Thank you very much for so

969
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:17,880
Adam Curry: this has been shared
far and wide and including the

970
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,180
patent on this technology. Yes.
You had a question?

971
00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:24,150
John C Dvorak: Does anyone does
he have any clue about how

972
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:25,560
speaker systems work?

973
00:57:25,590 --> 00:57:30,690
Adam Curry: Well, thank you. So
now this technology if there is

974
00:57:30,690 --> 00:57:37,830
real ultrasonic ultrasonic
therapies that are being used,

975
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:42,360
it's called What's it called
Sano chemistry. And these and

976
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,130
the frequency range for this to
work is 10 kilohertz to three

977
00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:50,190
megahertz. Now, I would say and
this is what I think you're

978
00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:54,990
you're about to say is that most
speakers kind of drop off at 22

979
00:57:54,990 --> 00:57:59,400
kilohertz. So you're not you're
never going to get a tone.

980
00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:03,600
John C Dvorak: Let's be
realistic. 22 If a speaker can

981
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:09,420
attribute actually hit 22
kilohertz, you got a hell of an

982
00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:10,560
expensive speaker on

983
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,990
Adam Curry: your hands and amp
and amplifier.

984
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,530
John C Dvorak: And right you
also need the amplifier that can

985
00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:20,580
handle that kind of frequency
accurately. There's not enough

986
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:21,660
people don't have that.

987
00:58:22,410 --> 00:58:26,730
Adam Curry: Well, just to make
sure. I want to inoculate all of

988
00:58:26,730 --> 00:58:33,180
the no agenda producers. By
activating your nanoparticles. I

989
00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:38,610
am going to take it up to 20
kilohertz this May this may

990
00:58:38,610 --> 00:58:43,470
shorten this may reduce our
audience significantly, John,

991
00:58:43,590 --> 00:58:46,680
I'm at five kilohertz people are
starting to get activated.

992
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:50,940
People maybe I think we're at an
eight kilohertz. We're at nine.

993
00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:53,760
I think we're about to start
killing people. John, we're into

994
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,610
10 I can't hear it any more
nanoparticles are being

995
00:58:56,610 --> 00:59:02,910
activated from here to Israel
14 1516 at 20 kilohertz, Are we

996
00:59:02,910 --> 00:59:03,510
dead?

997
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,730
John C Dvorak: Are you there? So
it was my computer speaker

998
00:59:08,730 --> 00:59:13,740
system. The drop off? If you're
actually we're trying to

999
00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:17,910
transmit anything beyond five,
it really ends at five you can't

1000
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:20,520
you're not gonna come out and
even get 10

1001
00:59:20,550 --> 00:59:22,800
Adam Curry: I could still hear
10 I could say I couldn't

1002
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,210
John C Dvorak: hear 10 on these
speakers.

1003
00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:29,220
Adam Curry: So I'm looking at
the troll room. I do not see

1004
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:35,430
anyone who had death in the
room. And then people many

1005
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:37,290
people have made it.
Congratulations, you made it

1006
00:59:37,290 --> 00:59:42,870
You're safe. You're safe for the
FEMA test. Although some dogs

1007
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:46,140
famous, some dogs did not.

1008
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,840
John C Dvorak: There's another
there is a nother

1009
00:59:50,220 --> 00:59:54,120
Adam Curry: by the way. They
need to people need to get on on

1010
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,930
social media right now and tell
them not to listen to episode

1011
00:59:57,930 --> 01:00:02,370
1593 have no agenda because it
will kill them. It will activate

1012
01:00:02,370 --> 01:00:05,370
the nanoparticles that have been
introduced into their bodies by

1013
01:00:05,370 --> 01:00:07,020
the obvious means.

1014
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:14,430
John C Dvorak: Yes, so
Supposedly, the tick that was

1015
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:21,060
developed and Plum Island to
give you a meat allergy. This

1016
01:00:21,060 --> 01:00:21,270
one?

1017
01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:24,540
Adam Curry: Well, I happen to
have a conversation,

1018
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,940
John C Dvorak: it was designed
to be repelled by a five G

1019
01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:35,760
signal. And the reason and the
standard chick got out and it's

1020
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,860
starting to give people these
meat allergies, which are

1021
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:39,690
ruined. You just basically

1022
01:00:40,770 --> 01:00:43,590
Adam Curry: go the Alpha gal,
the lone star tick Alpha gal.

1023
01:00:43,590 --> 01:00:43,890
Yes,

1024
01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:46,680
John C Dvorak: that lone star
star chit tick. And so they had

1025
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,420
to roll out 5g in a hurry to
push these ticks away.

1026
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:55,020
Adam Curry: This one I had not
heard.

1027
01:00:57,180 --> 01:01:00,630
John C Dvorak: We had this at
the dinner table from JC who had

1028
01:01:00,810 --> 01:01:01,530
heard it.

1029
01:01:02,399 --> 01:01:06,479
Adam Curry: And did he believe
it? I don't think so. But we had

1030
01:01:06,479 --> 01:01:11,099
dinner last night with the ER
doctor and his wife. And and,

1031
01:01:11,459 --> 01:01:17,099
and he was quite aware of the he
was quite aware of the Alpha gal

1032
01:01:17,099 --> 01:01:21,779
adjuvant in vaccines and had
some thoughts on that which

1033
01:01:21,809 --> 01:01:29,459
disagree with the Plum Island 5g
idea. In addition to that, I

1034
01:01:29,459 --> 01:01:32,339
asked him point blank, have you
seen an uptick in what we would

1035
01:01:32,339 --> 01:01:37,739
call vaccine adverse events? He
says, Oh, yeah. Everybody we

1036
01:01:37,739 --> 01:01:39,839
know in healthcare is saying
this

1037
01:01:40,380 --> 01:01:42,240
John C Dvorak: course they are,
they would say if you remember

1038
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,880
from the very from the get go
and all these nurses were

1039
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,080
quitting, because they rather
quit and get the jab, which cuts

1040
01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:53,310
is a problem that exists till
today. There was hearing we had

1041
01:01:53,310 --> 01:01:58,170
those early stories about the
bad periods and the blood flows.

1042
01:01:58,170 --> 01:02:01,410
And all these things were the
women and it went on and on and

1043
01:02:01,410 --> 01:02:04,170
on right at the beginning of art
when we started introducing

1044
01:02:04,170 --> 01:02:08,760
these these issues to the show,
when we first heard about the

1045
01:02:09,090 --> 01:02:13,410
COVID thing being a bio weapon,
or at least manufactured or

1046
01:02:13,410 --> 01:02:16,680
engineered, which is right at
the beginning it was the very

1047
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:22,020
beginning of 2020. So the fact
that it's continuing after

1048
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:25,260
billions of shots and surprise
anybody well, we might

1049
01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:28,500
Adam Curry: as well bring it in
now because that's the other

1050
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:32,340
thing that is blanketing the
mainstream M five M elite

1051
01:02:32,340 --> 01:02:36,330
messaging system airwaves
besides tones that will kill you

1052
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:36,960
how many people

1053
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,240
Unknown: are actually getting
the COVID vaccine right now?

1054
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,640
What are you seeing and hearing
from patients.

1055
01:02:42,090 --> 01:02:44,190
I'm hearing a lot of interest
from people who are paying

1056
01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:46,380
attention to headlines,
especially those who are high

1057
01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:46,890
risk

1058
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:49,380
Adam Curry: of getting a lot of
attention from people who are

1059
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:53,160
paying attention to headlines.
Listen to listen to what they're

1060
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:53,580
saying. I'm

1061
01:02:53,580 --> 01:02:55,380
Unknown: hearing a lot of
interest from people who are

1062
01:02:55,380 --> 01:02:57,780
paying attention to headlines,
especially those who are high

1063
01:02:57,780 --> 01:02:58,410
risk. He's

1064
01:02:58,410 --> 01:03:01,740
Adam Curry: not lying people who
pay attention to headlines and

1065
01:03:01,740 --> 01:03:05,160
don't read the story. Mainly
because it's behind a paywall

1066
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,070
these days, they're like, Oh, I
saw a headline.

1067
01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:10,140
Unknown: So people who have
underlying chronic medical

1068
01:03:10,140 --> 01:03:11,820
disease, they're
immunocompromised, weak immune

1069
01:03:11,820 --> 01:03:14,880
systems, parents of younger
children, and even people who

1070
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,410
might be hanging out with
someone who's above the age of

1071
01:03:16,410 --> 01:03:20,190
60 or 65. Now we obviously have
all her eyes on those numbers

1072
01:03:20,190 --> 01:03:23,550
from the last booster, we're
less than 20% of people who were

1073
01:03:23,550 --> 01:03:26,220
eligible went out and got it but
a higher percentage people of

1074
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,550
the age of 65 did so right now
we're looking at right now is an

1075
01:03:29,550 --> 01:03:31,650
interest of people getting it
but making sure that they have

1076
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,200
access, they know where to get
it and that they're going to be

1077
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,080
available to all communities
regardless of socioeconomic

1078
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:37,740
status

1079
01:03:37,890 --> 01:03:41,100
Adam Curry: via not free but
available to all community. So

1080
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:45,840
now we have a situation where
the the true owners of the

1081
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,420
messaging which is the
advertisers, which for

1082
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:51,510
television for mainstream is the
pharmaceutical industry, just

1083
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:56,460
take a look at the ads. They
have a triple a triple play now

1084
01:03:56,490 --> 01:04:00,240
we've got COVID we've got flu
and RSV

1085
01:04:00,270 --> 01:04:03,750
Unknown: in tonight's
Healthwatch breaking news. CDC

1086
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:07,110
has just approved Pfizer's new
vaccine aimed at protecting

1087
01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:10,590
infants from the respiratory
illness RSV. The shot now

1088
01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:13,650
available in some places is
recommended for moms who are 32

1089
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:17,310
to 36 weeks pregnant. Health
officials say in the first six

1090
01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:21,210
months after birth, a vaccine
can reduce a baby's risk of RSV

1091
01:04:21,210 --> 01:04:23,970
hospitalization by 57%.

1092
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,150
Adam Curry: So it's a vaccine.
It's the same type of great

1093
01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:30,450
vaccine that Pfizer is brought
to you before the one that gives

1094
01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:35,550
you a percentage of protection.
They're starting off now at 57%.

1095
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:39,480
How was that a vaccine? How, how
was that?

1096
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,500
John C Dvorak: Do you remember
when you first had that paper

1097
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:46,320
that one of these vaccine
companies produced

1098
01:04:46,350 --> 01:04:50,970
Adam Curry: it was 90 Fighting?
What was 95% for the COVID?

1099
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,980
John C Dvorak: No, no, I'm
talking about back in the day

1100
01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:56,100
when you when you found a paper
that they were presenting to

1101
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,310
investors showing that the
vaccines a big moneymaker

1102
01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:02,340
Adam Curry: because because you
can give medicine to people who

1103
01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:03,420
aren't sad. So they

1104
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,010
John C Dvorak: in their in as we
discussed this day we're going

1105
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:11,250
to do a anti smoking vaccine.
They were calling things

1106
01:05:11,250 --> 01:05:14,760
vaccines that weren't vaccines
back then. And then when we came

1107
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:19,290
to mRNA, which is anything
bought a vaccine it's been it's

1108
01:05:19,290 --> 01:05:22,590
a crapshoot. Now. Now they've
divided you that a vaccine is

1109
01:05:22,590 --> 01:05:26,340
the is to stop something is, I
don't even think anyone thinks

1110
01:05:26,340 --> 01:05:27,180
that anymore.

1111
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,480
Adam Curry: Well, if we go to
the Today Show, who are the

1112
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,280
primary promoters of all things,
pharmaceutical, they're all

1113
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,520
excited about what Dr. Natalie
Azhar has to say,

1114
01:05:38,610 --> 01:05:40,590
Unknown: we are back with
today's checklist, by all means

1115
01:05:40,590 --> 01:05:43,380
come to sweaters and coats and
drinks. But it also means we are

1116
01:05:43,380 --> 01:05:46,560
on alert for flu COVID and RSV,
so

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01:05:48,030 --> 01:05:51,450
Adam Curry: we are on alert for
flu COVID Or it's that it's that

1118
01:05:51,450 --> 01:05:54,870
time of the year again, get used
to be Hey, we're getting ready

1119
01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:57,750
for Christmas. We're getting
ready for Halloween around the

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01:05:57,750 --> 01:06:04,050
corner. We've got spice pumpkin
lattes. No, no, now it's now

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01:06:04,050 --> 01:06:05,700
we're looking at her all day
ready to

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01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:06,510
John C Dvorak: get sick

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Unknown: COVID And RSP. So we
have some good news for you this

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,080
morning free at home COVID tests
will be available again started

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01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:15,360
Adam Curry: free at home COVID.

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01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:18,060
John C Dvorak: You know how many
of those tests I've collected so

1127
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:23,040
far? About 20? At least 20. I
have a box full of them at

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01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,130
different brands. I got a whole
slew of them. Because they were

1129
01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:28,710
giving to me that the pharmacy
had a little thing it'd be you

1130
01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:32,580
pick up a prescription what's a
free COVID tests just ask. So

1131
01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:35,670
they give me a bundle of them.
And then they go back. Another

1132
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:38,670
bundle and you get to free was a
mailed to you at the beginning

1133
01:06:38,670 --> 01:06:42,210
from the government. They get
that free ones and dropping them

1134
01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:46,260
off left and right. There's so
many of these tests.

1135
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:49,110
Adam Curry: You got a bundle of
them? Well, there's they're

1136
01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:53,160
coming back the so again,
someone's benefiting free tests.

1137
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:55,560
Unknown: NBC News Medical
contributor, Dr. Natalie Azar is

1138
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,380
here to walk us through all of
the vaccines and boosters out

1139
01:06:58,380 --> 01:06:59,220
there, the more

1140
01:07:00,090 --> 01:07:02,760
Adam Curry: of the vaccines and
the boosters and the nasal

1141
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,560
sprays. And it's all groovy.

1142
01:07:04,590 --> 01:07:07,140
Unknown: It'll walk us through
all of the vaccines and boosters

1143
01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:11,220
out there. Good morning. I got
my free COVID test yesterday.

1144
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:18,300
Adam Curry: I got my I got my
FICO, which is yesterday says

1145
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:20,040
right here my script. I gotta
say that,

1146
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:21,690
Unknown: um, so let's start with
the flu vaccine.

1147
01:07:22,050 --> 01:07:24,570
Adam Curry: Let's start with
that. By the way. We one of the

1148
01:07:24,570 --> 01:07:27,240
trolls did point out the
definition of vaccine has

1149
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,800
changed in the dictionary.

1150
01:07:29,130 --> 01:07:30,840
John C Dvorak: No, we noticed
that when it happened, it

1151
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,730
happened on our watch. I know.

1152
01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:35,430
Adam Curry: But I just want to
remind everybody that a vaccine

1153
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:38,550
is no longer what it was. It's
what they said it was going to

1154
01:07:38,550 --> 01:07:42,300
be 1213 years ago when they had
a big conference. They were

1155
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:45,270
talking it wasn't your smoking.
It was cocaine addiction. It was

1156
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:47,910
all kinds of stuff. Okay, yeah,
I

1157
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:49,560
John C Dvorak: remember the
cocaine was a good one.

1158
01:07:50,070 --> 01:07:52,170
Unknown: So let's start with the
flu vaccine. Let's talk about

1159
01:07:52,170 --> 01:07:54,060
it. Who needs to get it? When
should they get it all this

1160
01:07:54,060 --> 01:07:55,380
stuff? Okay, so

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,090
everybody with a few exceptions
over the age of six months is

1162
01:08:00,090 --> 01:08:04,320
eligible to get the flu shot. We
recommend to get it by the end

1163
01:08:04,350 --> 01:08:07,080
of October. It takes about two
weeks for those protective

1164
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,400
antibodies to kick in.

1165
01:08:08,430 --> 01:08:11,490
Adam Curry: Remember, this was
the end of October, this was

1166
01:08:11,490 --> 01:08:13,470
mascot mask for Halloween.

1167
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:15,510
Unknown: That's what you have to
keep in mind. Flu season is

1168
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:18,840
starting about now and heads
into the winter. If you're 65

1169
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,740
and older, there's a couple high
dose shots that you are with the

1170
01:08:22,740 --> 01:08:25,110
rest of us in sort of that
middle bell curve. It doesn't

1171
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:27,240
matter which one you get because
there's a lot of different flu

1172
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,200
shot flu shots out there.

1173
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:30,960
Adam Curry: What since what is
this middle bell curve?

1174
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,290
John C Dvorak: I liked the high
dose shot. Let's kill the old

1175
01:08:34,290 --> 01:08:37,440
people. They did these other
shots haven't done the job.

1176
01:08:38,340 --> 01:08:39,270
Right dose high

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01:08:39,270 --> 01:08:42,360
Adam Curry: dose Yeah, if you're
over 65 Take the high dose.

1178
01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:45,690
Don't worry, you'll be mulch
before you know it. What

1179
01:08:45,690 --> 01:08:46,920
Unknown: about the nasal spray?

1180
01:08:47,819 --> 01:08:51,239
nasal spray? You know it's all
excited. Wow. nasal spray.

1181
01:08:51,630 --> 01:08:53,070
What about the nasal spray?

1182
01:08:53,939 --> 01:08:56,909
Nasal spray you know every every
couple of years we find out oh

1183
01:08:56,909 --> 01:08:59,639
maybe it doesn't work as well as
the injectable one but it is

1184
01:08:59,639 --> 01:09:02,909
available this year and it is a
great option for little kids.

1185
01:09:02,909 --> 01:09:03,209
This

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01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:05,850
Adam Curry: literally is like
selling the pumpkin spice latte

1187
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:08,730
is available this you Oh right.
This is called the nasal spray

1188
01:09:08,819 --> 01:09:12,209
Unknown: or needle phobic is
indicated for people between the

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01:09:12,209 --> 01:09:15,539
ages of two and 49. But here's
the 40 Oh, I

1190
01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:17,579
Adam Curry: miss out. I can't do
the nasal spray.

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01:09:17,610 --> 01:09:20,790
Unknown: There are a couple of
exceptions to it. Because I'm

1192
01:09:20,910 --> 01:09:21,210
going to

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01:09:21,210 --> 01:09:23,610
John C Dvorak: hold on a sec.
I'm not in the bell curve. What

1194
01:09:23,610 --> 01:09:27,780
difference does it make if you
can if it works, it works. What

1195
01:09:27,780 --> 01:09:30,030
is it? Do you think this spray
goes up your nose and goes how

1196
01:09:30,030 --> 01:09:31,080
old is this guy?

1197
01:09:34,979 --> 01:09:37,229
Adam Curry: And that's why we
love you John C divorce

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01:09:37,919 --> 01:09:40,769
Unknown: vaccine and kids
between two and 17 who are

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01:09:40,769 --> 01:09:43,649
taking aspirin and other certain
medications are not meant to get

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01:09:43,649 --> 01:09:43,799
it.

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01:09:43,830 --> 01:09:48,270
Adam Curry: Oh, what? When you
can't use a nasal spray if

1202
01:09:48,270 --> 01:09:49,320
you're taking aspirin.

1203
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,010
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not
a good thing for Bayer. There's

1204
01:09:53,010 --> 01:09:53,220
not

1205
01:09:53,220 --> 01:09:56,670
Adam Curry: a good product from
whoever's pushing the spray

1206
01:09:56,700 --> 01:10:00,390
Unknown: vaccine. So no, it's
between two and seven. A teen

1207
01:10:00,390 --> 01:10:02,940
who are taking aspirin and other
certain medications are not

1208
01:10:02,940 --> 01:10:03,600
meant to get it.

1209
01:10:03,630 --> 01:10:05,670
Adam Curry: So if you're 18
you're taking aspirin, it's

1210
01:10:05,670 --> 01:10:06,210
okay.

1211
01:10:06,930 --> 01:10:09,450
John C Dvorak: I mean, this is
you confusing

1212
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:11,970
Unknown: people with weakened
immune systems, pregnant people

1213
01:10:11,970 --> 01:10:14,910
and there's a few other people
were thinking about getting the

1214
01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:17,310
nasal spray. Check with your doc
first just to make sure

1215
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:21,630
Adam Curry: it's a good catch
pregnant people. Okay, thanks.

1216
01:10:21,630 --> 01:10:25,470
There's more though. That's it
because you know, RSV. Now this

1217
01:10:25,470 --> 01:10:28,860
is a problem and I think they're
being a little cavalier about

1218
01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:31,650
it. But remember, the whole idea
was you can get your RSV get

1219
01:10:31,650 --> 01:10:35,250
your flu shot, get your COVID
Chatbot. But are there any side

1220
01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:35,790
effects?

1221
01:10:36,090 --> 01:10:38,250
Unknown: Let's talk about RSV
for milk here because we know

1222
01:10:38,250 --> 01:10:42,720
the FDA just approved that first
ever RSV vaccine in infants and

1223
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:43,260
toddlers if

1224
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,380
Adam Curry: I'm throwing up in
my mouth from this like Josh.

1225
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:52,230
Yeah, yeah. You get Are you paid
per time you say something like

1226
01:10:52,230 --> 01:10:56,640
that? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yes. Exciting is talk about

1227
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,390
John C Dvorak: you remember the
old get maybe the show still on

1228
01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:05,700
the air that the mayor of
Cincinnati guy had a talk show

1229
01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:09,990
where they people get the fights
on the SAT and throw shoes, they

1230
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:14,310
pull a shoe off and throw it?
It's more? It's Maury Pomorie.

1231
01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:19,320
No, not Maury Povich, the other
guy, Jerry Springer. Jerry

1232
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,490
Springer. Jerry Springer, there
was somebody that I don't know

1233
01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:27,480
if I removed I was from this
story, but some day because you

1234
01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:30,960
had to sign an NDA when he did
the Springer show. Spring you're

1235
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,910
literally had a fee schedule. If
you did this or that you'd get

1236
01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:42,120
paid if you told us you get more
money bucks got out of your

1237
01:11:42,270 --> 01:11:46,020
chair in a threatening manner
you get like 50 bucks. If you

1238
01:11:46,020 --> 01:11:49,920
did this if you threw a chair
you get like 100 There's all the

1239
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,640
it was a fee schedule that would
create these people that do want

1240
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,390
to fight because hell yeah, you
make a lot of money. Now it's

1241
01:11:57,390 --> 01:12:03,030
possible that this is going on
as we speak with this word with

1242
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:06,030
the clip you're playing that
there's a fee schedule. So if

1243
01:12:06,030 --> 01:12:09,930
you say yeah, or Oh, right, is
there any of these things just

1244
01:12:09,930 --> 01:12:11,340
possibly get paid more money

1245
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,430
Adam Curry: or you get invited
to the big you know, Pfizer

1246
01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:17,610
Christmas party and you get
gifts and you get you know, what

1247
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:17,670
a

1248
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,850
Unknown: bag, goodie bag

1249
01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:23,460
Adam Curry: these days people
are getting gold bars and

1250
01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:26,880
getting Mercedes you know, we're
on the wrong side of all this my

1251
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:27,150
friend.

1252
01:12:27,150 --> 01:12:28,050
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we've
always been.

1253
01:12:28,740 --> 01:12:31,020
Unknown: Let's talk about RSP
formula here because we know the

1254
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:35,790
FDA just approved that first
ever RSV vaccine. Yeah. There's

1255
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:39,960
if I'm not mistaken, they're
especially susceptible to sort

1256
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,490
of dose also get the vaccine
getting

1257
01:12:41,490 --> 01:12:44,730
the vaccine. So yeah, so for for
little ones. This is great. We

1258
01:12:44,730 --> 01:12:45,180
have a pre

1259
01:12:46,710 --> 01:12:49,560
Adam Curry: for little ones.
This is great. We jab me jab

1260
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,100
murdy We jerem jab them off. Hey
guys, where's my swag bag?

1261
01:12:53,130 --> 01:12:56,160
Unknown: Cardinal antibody for
little neonates and infants born

1262
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,540
in the neonates?

1263
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:03,570
Adam Curry: Oh, come on,
neonates. This is this is

1264
01:13:03,570 --> 01:13:07,560
children who literally have just
been born. Yeah. Neo and you

1265
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,060
call them neonates,

1266
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:11,610
John C Dvorak: neonates when
maybe the kids names Nate

1267
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:14,520
Unknown: or Neil This is great.
They we have approved now

1268
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,490
something called a monoclonal
antibody for little neonates and

1269
01:13:17,490 --> 01:13:19,860
infants born in the in their
first RSV season.

1270
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,780
Adam Curry: Oh, this Johnny, I
don't know. But it's his first

1271
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:28,650
RSV RSV season, it's the first
season of his life it's known as

1272
01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:33,390
the RSV season, these people are
ghouls, they are selling

1273
01:13:33,690 --> 01:13:37,410
horrible products that don't be
ashamed

1274
01:13:37,410 --> 01:13:39,420
John C Dvorak: of themselves as
broadcasters, this is what

1275
01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:42,990
broadcasting has become. The
vast wasteland is worse than

1276
01:13:42,990 --> 01:13:43,380
ever.

1277
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:46,440
Unknown: Good point. But for
individuals 60 and older, there

1278
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:49,800
are now two different RSV
vaccines that are available. No,

1279
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,790
Adam Curry: not one. There's
two. That's a bonanza, I'm

1280
01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:54,810
telling you Bonanza

1281
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,540
Unknown: buddy be getting it not
necessarily. We are yes talking

1282
01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:00,540
about older adults, people with
chronic heart or lung disease

1283
01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:03,120
people with weakened immune
systems, people living in

1284
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,120
nursing homes or long term care
facilities. Now a lot of people

1285
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,020
say well, can I get the RSV shot
with the flu shot? If you

1286
01:14:10,050 --> 01:14:14,070
absolutely must. You probably
yes, but the CDC has some data

1287
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:17,070
that maybe the flu shot won't be
as effective if you get it with

1288
01:14:17,070 --> 01:14:17,880
the RSV so

1289
01:14:18,930 --> 01:14:23,850
Adam Curry: what is it? So the
CDC has some data. This is a

1290
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,540
warning signal, as far as I'm
concerned that if you get the

1291
01:14:27,540 --> 01:14:32,820
RSV with the flu shot, the flu
shot won't be as effective. Why

1292
01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:39,450
not? What is wrong with either
one of those or both of those?

1293
01:14:40,290 --> 01:14:41,910
That doesn't mean don't explain
they don't

1294
01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:45,060
Unknown: mean probably yes, but
the CDC has some data that maybe

1295
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:48,450
the flu shot, effective if
you've got it with the RSV so

1296
01:14:48,450 --> 01:14:50,760
I'm going to make a
recommendation to my patients to

1297
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,760
separate RSP from fluid it's not
for kids. Nope. This is for

1298
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,340
soaking up. The little ones get
something called a monoclonal

1299
01:14:56,340 --> 01:14:58,110
antibody. They were approved
around the same time. It's

1300
01:14:58,110 --> 01:14:59,130
really great news still

1301
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,250
John C Dvorak: Right now why is
the kid getting a monoclonal

1302
01:15:02,250 --> 01:15:04,110
antibody when they're not sick?

1303
01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:08,190
Adam Curry: Have you asked too
many questions? No swag bag for

1304
01:15:08,190 --> 01:15:13,350
you. Now let's, let's talk about
the booster. Oh, I'm so sorry

1305
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:15,990
John C Dvorak: for the parents
who are jacking these kids up

1306
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:19,320
every damn thing that comes
along just because somebody on

1307
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:21,240
today's show thought it was a
good idea.

1308
01:15:21,839 --> 01:15:24,389
Adam Curry: Well know someone on
the Today Show got a swag bag to

1309
01:15:24,389 --> 01:15:29,189
promote it. Well, this is why we
exist. So at least we have

1310
01:15:29,190 --> 01:15:32,910
John C Dvorak: to end
advertising, drug company

1311
01:15:32,910 --> 01:15:36,540
advertising. That's why nobody
in the world does it or allows

1312
01:15:36,540 --> 01:15:39,210
it because they know it's
dangerous. It corrupts the

1313
01:15:39,210 --> 01:15:43,470
media. It has to be stopped. The
only two countries that allowed

1314
01:15:43,470 --> 01:15:46,560
are the United States and New
Zealand to screwed up countries

1315
01:15:46,620 --> 01:15:49,680
because of it that letting the
pharmaceutical companies push

1316
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:54,510
everyone around. This has got to
end. That's took Kennedy Let's

1317
01:15:54,510 --> 01:15:54,810
talk.

1318
01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:58,740
Adam Curry: Let's Wow, an
endorsement. Let's talk about

1319
01:15:58,740 --> 01:16:01,980
the booster. Oh, can we call it
a booster? Should we need some

1320
01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:04,650
marketing help on this? What
about the COVID

1321
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,800
Unknown: booster? So we have a
coke COVID burst? And

1322
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:11,400
Adam Curry: really this is this
makes my stomach turn the way

1323
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:19,680
that COVID Does the Gildan COVID
boasts the COVID COVID. What

1324
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:20,880
about the COVID

1325
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,190
Unknown: booster so we have a
COVID booster this year, and

1326
01:16:23,190 --> 01:16:25,320
we're probably going to stop
calling it booster we're going

1327
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,200
to say updated vaccine just like
we update the flu shot

1328
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,630
Adam Curry: no like you update
your software like you update

1329
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:33,870
your windows, because that's
what it is. It's an update to

1330
01:16:33,870 --> 01:16:38,010
your technology. That's what the
whole promise was of the mRNA

1331
01:16:38,010 --> 01:16:41,910
platform. It's a software
upgrade. It's an update

1332
01:16:41,940 --> 01:16:44,730
Unknown: in vaccine just like we
update the flu shot every year.

1333
01:16:44,970 --> 01:16:48,060
This is targeting the XB V
strain that was prominent in

1334
01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:51,390
spring and summer, but it is
going to cover the current

1335
01:16:51,390 --> 01:16:54,660
circulating strains which are
different than that one. And it

1336
01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:57,840
is okay to get the COVID and the
flu shot at the same time. We've

1337
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,370
been saying that for a couple of
years

1338
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,290
Adam Curry: now. Yeah, well,
let's just let's just wrap this

1339
01:17:01,290 --> 01:17:01,530
up.

1340
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,690
Unknown: Is there a logic so I
just got my flu shot. You know,

1341
01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:05,700
I was scared, but I did it
scared

1342
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:08,070
Adam Curry: but I was scared but
I got my flu shot. I

1343
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:10,860
John C Dvorak: wasn't scared but
I got scared of a flu shot.

1344
01:17:11,190 --> 01:17:13,140
Adam Curry: Because it was just
scared. You know, she didn't

1345
01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:15,510
needles. She's just scared. And
I you know,

1346
01:17:16,770 --> 01:17:18,870
Unknown: is there a logic? So I
just got my flu shot. You know,

1347
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:20,280
I was scared, but I did it
right?

1348
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:21,360
Just you're always scared. I

1349
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,000
know. You're saying but I pick
it up and I get it done.

1350
01:17:24,150 --> 01:17:27,060
Adam Curry: I sucked it up and I
got it done. You're brave. But

1351
01:17:27,060 --> 01:17:33,990
for some reason what a lot of
people are like me, me by the

1352
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:40,860
same logic can't help and mock
these people. This is so so

1353
01:17:40,860 --> 01:17:44,430
horrible. I mean, if you just
you know, the problem is if

1354
01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:47,160
you're eating your breakfast,
you got the kids running around,

1355
01:17:47,220 --> 01:17:51,150
you hear half of this you like
oh, hey, kids, have to pick you

1356
01:17:51,150 --> 01:17:55,560
up after school. Don't take any
aspirin. You gotta get your flu

1357
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,650
shot. I don't want you to get
hurt me. But for

1358
01:17:58,650 --> 01:18:00,690
Unknown: some reason with the
COVID booster a lot of people

1359
01:18:00,690 --> 01:18:05,580
are like me. Should we apply the
same logic that is just an

1360
01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:06,240
updated?

1361
01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:11,010
John C Dvorak: Second? I hate to
interrupt. No, I love it. But

1362
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,690
didn't this whole thing begin
with the chatter that was going

1363
01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:18,630
on about you know, these these
clips? The chatter everyone's

1364
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:21,990
talking about getting the shots
Great. Now all of a sudden this

1365
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:28,590
Adam Curry: Well, I have the CDC
director next and there's a lot

1366
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:34,380
of me she will commit to nothing
about this because they now know

1367
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:37,740
that the pharmaceutical industry
is selling their product and

1368
01:18:37,740 --> 01:18:42,810
they know it's no good at best
ineffective at worst harmful

1369
01:18:43,050 --> 01:18:47,490
Unknown: for the CDC and
communication. Yes, yes for an

1370
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,230
individual there are so

1371
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,440
Adam Curry: did you see what she
says she says for the CDC and

1372
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:56,880
communication? Yes. Let's listen
to the question again.

1373
01:18:57,330 --> 01:18:59,790
Unknown: Did I mean it should we
should we apply the same logic

1374
01:18:59,790 --> 01:19:01,170
that is just an updated

1375
01:19:01,290 --> 01:19:07,440
so it first for the CDC and
communication? Yes. What does

1376
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:09,930
Adam Curry: that mean so for the
marketing no

1377
01:19:09,930 --> 01:19:13,410
John C Dvorak: idea why they
emphatic yes. Because I

1378
01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:15,780
Adam Curry: think when she says
for the CDC and communication

1379
01:19:15,780 --> 01:19:20,250
she means marketing. So for the
marketing Yes, it's an updated

1380
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:25,920
Yes, it's an updated Oh, it's
not a booster? Yes. I think this

1381
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,820
is marketing, their marketing
chemicals to you and your

1382
01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:32,310
children. cavalierly

1383
01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:36,540
Unknown: you're always scared I
know. You're saying but but for

1384
01:19:36,540 --> 01:19:38,940
some reason with the COVID
booster a lot of people are like

1385
01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:42,780
we do not mean it should we
should we apply the same logic

1386
01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:44,130
that is just an updated

1387
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:49,740
so it first for the CDC and
communication? Yes, for an

1388
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,280
individual there are so much
nuance to this. Oh no. I think I

1389
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,060
would just say that the booster
and updated shot with of the

1390
01:19:57,060 --> 01:20:00,330
COVID shot gives you protection
against infection for A number

1391
01:20:00,330 --> 01:20:03,000
of months and then that
declines. protection against

1392
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,820
severe disease is more durable
than the flu vaccine. So if

1393
01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:09,180
you've been boosted with COVID
before if you've had a COVID

1394
01:20:09,180 --> 01:20:10,170
infection if you've

1395
01:20:10,170 --> 01:20:14,730
Adam Curry: been boosted with
COVID What exactly what she said

1396
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,530
if you've been boosted with
COVID

1397
01:20:17,250 --> 01:20:19,740
Unknown: action against severe
disease is more durable than the

1398
01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:22,860
flu vaccine. So if you've been
boosted with COVID before if

1399
01:20:22,860 --> 01:20:23,430
you've had,

1400
01:20:23,580 --> 01:20:27,240
John C Dvorak: oh, you know what
she said? She actually literally

1401
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:31,500
said that she said, she said
now's equates having COVID with

1402
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:35,700
getting a booster shot. Yep, if
you've been, you've been boosted

1403
01:20:35,730 --> 01:20:40,080
by COVID by getting COVID Then
like getting COVID Wow, let's

1404
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:40,470
listen to

1405
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:43,230
Unknown: the COVID shot gives
you protection against infection

1406
01:20:43,290 --> 01:20:46,200
for a number of months and then
that declines. protection

1407
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,230
against severe disease is more
durable than the flu vaccine. So

1408
01:20:49,230 --> 01:20:52,350
if you've been boosted with
COVID before if you've had a

1409
01:20:52,350 --> 01:20:55,350
COVID infection, you are still
protected against severe

1410
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:55,830
disease.

1411
01:20:55,860 --> 01:21:00,630
Adam Curry: Wow, what an
admission before I mean, just a

1412
01:21:00,630 --> 01:21:06,060
few years ago I distinctly
remember no no no no no, no, no

1413
01:21:06,090 --> 01:21:09,150
no you think you have you have
some kind of immunity because

1414
01:21:09,150 --> 01:21:14,010
you got COVID No, no back in
your home you don't come to work

1415
01:21:14,010 --> 01:21:17,280
don't go they'll go nuts because
don't come to school. Get your

1416
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,820
backs get your backs because you
have you don't have immunity

1417
01:21:20,850 --> 01:21:24,930
just because you say you had it
and now we've changed boy I'm

1418
01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:27,390
glad I have a memory that goes
back at least a couple of years.

1419
01:21:27,419 --> 01:21:30,029
Unknown: So if you're in that
bell curve, young adult a bell

1420
01:21:30,029 --> 01:21:30,959
curve again.

1421
01:21:32,250 --> 01:21:33,360
Adam Curry: What's the bell
curve?

1422
01:21:33,570 --> 01:21:35,580
John C Dvorak: I don't know why
they keep bringing the bell

1423
01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:37,590
curve. You're in the bell curve

1424
01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:39,240
Adam Curry: but that means the
bell curve that you've all heard

1425
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,700
that you have must be the
immunity bell curve or

1426
01:21:41,700 --> 01:21:42,240
something.

1427
01:21:42,330 --> 01:21:44,430
John C Dvorak: So if you're in
that age bell curve,

1428
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,310
Adam Curry: oh no, no, she's
saying that if you've been

1429
01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:52,440
boosted with COVID I'm going to
start saying that are you a

1430
01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:54,090
vaccine? I've been boosted with
COVID

1431
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:58,590
John C Dvorak: Perfect. I'm
gonna start saying it to most

1432
01:21:58,620 --> 01:22:01,440
men ever had COVID I've been
boosted with no COVID

1433
01:22:05,130 --> 01:22:06,720
Adam Curry: You've been boosted
with with your

1434
01:22:09,150 --> 01:22:10,320
John C Dvorak: immune system
Hello,

1435
01:22:10,349 --> 01:22:12,899
Unknown: hello can severe
disease is more durable than the

1436
01:22:12,899 --> 01:22:16,019
flu vaccine. So if you've been
boosted with COVID before, if

1437
01:22:16,019 --> 01:22:19,529
you've had a COVID infection,
you are still protected against

1438
01:22:19,529 --> 01:22:22,619
severe disease. So if you're in
that bell curve, young adult

1439
01:22:22,649 --> 01:22:25,349
otherwise reasonably healthy,
talk to your doctor about

1440
01:22:25,349 --> 01:22:28,499
getting an updated shots again
from a public health population

1441
01:22:28,499 --> 01:22:32,939
perspective. They sent a yes
whether you had it or get a lot

1442
01:22:32,939 --> 01:22:33,389
of nuance,

1443
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:34,500
right. There's so good.

1444
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:39,480
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, how
long does this go on? This is

1445
01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:42,300
the last one. How does anybody
watch this show?

1446
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,060
Adam Curry: I love how she says
you're so good at promoting

1447
01:22:45,090 --> 01:22:48,420
pharmaceutical products. You're
so good. Thank you, y'all. I'll

1448
01:22:48,510 --> 01:22:51,600
see you at the party swag bag
fall. Yes, girlfriend,

1449
01:22:51,630 --> 01:22:54,690
Unknown: the anaesthetic guys.
Yes. Whether you had it or get a

1450
01:22:54,690 --> 01:22:56,460
lot of new ones are so good.

1451
01:22:58,530 --> 01:23:00,750
Adam Curry: Seriously, I mean,
seriously, you're so good. You

1452
01:23:00,750 --> 01:23:05,130
really helped out with that ad
is so good. So we have a CDC

1453
01:23:05,130 --> 01:23:09,330
director, Dr. Mandy Cohen. And
since you know, this is all very

1454
01:23:09,330 --> 01:23:12,900
confusing. We need to hear about
you know, from the authorities

1455
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:16,380
who are in charge of this. Is
this safe? Do we need it? What's

1456
01:23:16,380 --> 01:23:19,320
going on? The first thing we
need to do is politicize it.

1457
01:23:19,349 --> 01:23:22,709
Unknown: How good is CDC done
with all due respect over the

1458
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:26,609
last few years how many people
trust CDC at this point, I was

1459
01:23:26,609 --> 01:23:30,929
in the trenches during COVID.
They were citing flimsy studies

1460
01:23:30,929 --> 01:23:33,869
saying that masks will stop
COVID One of the things that I

1461
01:23:33,869 --> 01:23:36,659
said is when I come in, we're
going to have a reckoning about

1462
01:23:36,659 --> 01:23:38,069
all these COVID policies.

1463
01:23:39,150 --> 01:23:41,610
Those are words spoken this week
by Republican presidential

1464
01:23:41,610 --> 01:23:45,060
candidate and Florida Governor
Ron DeSantis. During the height

1465
01:23:45,060 --> 01:23:49,890
of the pandemic, Americans trust
in the CBD slipped compared to

1466
01:23:49,890 --> 01:23:52,770
other government agencies as
changing science around the

1467
01:23:52,770 --> 01:23:56,190
Coronavirus led to shifting CDC
guidelines to

1468
01:23:56,460 --> 01:23:59,310
Adam Curry: listen listen to
what you say, as changing

1469
01:23:59,310 --> 01:24:04,740
science. Because the science is
always in is always right. Trust

1470
01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:07,230
the scientists but the science
changed.

1471
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:08,910
John C Dvorak: It makes no sense

1472
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,920
Unknown: or it's spoken this
week by Republican presidents of

1473
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,460
Canada and Florida Governor Ron
DeSantis. During the height of

1474
01:24:14,460 --> 01:24:19,200
the pandemic, Americans trust in
the CBD slipped compared to

1475
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,050
other government agencies as
changing science around the

1476
01:24:22,050 --> 01:24:26,400
Coronavirus led to shifting CDC
guidelines. In 2002. A Kaiser

1477
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,550
Family Foundation poll found
more than a quarter of Americans

1478
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,000
still don't trust the agency to
provide reliable information

1479
01:24:33,060 --> 01:24:37,230
about COVID vaccines. Even the
former CDC director said this

1480
01:24:37,470 --> 01:24:40,290
about the CDC is COVID response
quote To be frank, we are

1481
01:24:40,290 --> 01:24:43,530
responsible for some pretty
dramatic pretty public mistakes,

1482
01:24:43,710 --> 01:24:48,360
from testing to data to
communications. And while most

1483
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,330
Americans have moved on from
COVID If you look at the numbers

1484
01:24:51,330 --> 01:24:53,160
the virus of course is still
here.

1485
01:24:53,970 --> 01:24:56,010
Adam Curry: Our time to look at
the numbers check the bell curve

1486
01:24:56,010 --> 01:24:58,320
the virus is still here. What
are you thinking stupid people

1487
01:24:58,350 --> 01:25:00,960
Unknown: hospitalizations have
been on the right since July

1488
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,460
with weekly admissions now more
than triple what they were just

1489
01:25:05,460 --> 01:25:06,270
two months ago,

1490
01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:07,260
Adam Curry: maybe five oh, they

1491
01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:08,340
John C Dvorak: went from one to
three.

1492
01:25:08,460 --> 01:25:10,200
Adam Curry: I think three to
nine is what I was gonna

1493
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:11,790
suggest. Yes, triple Joining us

1494
01:25:11,790 --> 01:25:14,340
Unknown: now for her very first
CNN interview the new CDC

1495
01:25:14,340 --> 01:25:16,830
director, Dr. Mandy Cohen.

1496
01:25:16,890 --> 01:25:19,530
Adam Curry: All right, Dr. Mandy
Cohen, we have a new face. We've

1497
01:25:19,530 --> 01:25:23,340
got a new round new chances.
Let's bring it home. Dr. Mandy

1498
01:25:23,340 --> 01:25:24,210
Cohen. Dr.

1499
01:25:24,210 --> 01:25:26,430
Unknown: Cohen, thank you so
much for joining us this

1500
01:25:26,430 --> 01:25:29,370
morning. I want to start with we
heard from Ron DeSantis. He has

1501
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:30,060
basically I

1502
01:25:30,060 --> 01:25:32,310
Adam Curry: want to start with
nothing about medical medicine.

1503
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:34,170
I just want to start with
politics.

1504
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,470
Unknown: Mandy Cohen. Dr. Cohen,
thank you so much for joining us

1505
01:25:37,650 --> 01:25:40,260
this morning. I want to start
with we heard from Ron DeSantis.

1506
01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:43,980
He has basically told people
that 65 And over not to get the

1507
01:25:43,980 --> 01:25:47,100
booster shot. What do you make
of his comments?

1508
01:25:47,850 --> 01:25:50,220
Adam Curry: Well, where do you
do that? Well, you heard at the

1509
01:25:50,220 --> 01:25:51,300
beginning of that clip,

1510
01:25:52,170 --> 01:25:54,360
John C Dvorak: he said not to
get the booster shots. No, he

1511
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,300
didn't say that. But she claims.

1512
01:25:58,350 --> 01:25:59,220
Adam Curry: Of course.

1513
01:25:59,580 --> 01:26:01,980
Unknown: Well, first, Sarah,
thanks for having me on. I want

1514
01:26:01,980 --> 01:26:05,400
to make sure that Americans know
that last week, the CDC did

1515
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,690
recommend an updated COVID
vaccine for everyone. Notice

1516
01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:12,000
Adam Curry: the marketing
language, not booster. It's an

1517
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,490
updated COVID vaccine. She's all
in

1518
01:26:14,490 --> 01:26:18,510
Unknown: scene for everyone over
the age of six months. These are

1519
01:26:18,510 --> 01:26:21,990
vaccines that we've given out
600 million of these doses we've

1520
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:26,250
saved so many lives are created.
These vaccines are safe, they're

1521
01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:29,070
effective. We want to make sure
folks protect themselves going

1522
01:26:29,070 --> 01:26:32,010
into the fall and winter season
when we know we're going to see

1523
01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:33,570
more COVID circulating. Okay,

1524
01:26:33,570 --> 01:26:35,550
Adam Curry: that's about the
extent of what shall go in this

1525
01:26:35,550 --> 01:26:37,680
interview. They're safe and
effective, which is what we've

1526
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,710
heard continuously safe and
effective. Let's get into it.

1527
01:26:40,710 --> 01:26:45,240
Because obviously we go from
politics to the internet,

1528
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,450
because you know, people can't
do that. There are podcasters

1529
01:26:48,450 --> 01:26:52,800
out there who are mocking you
Dr. Mandy Cohen, CDC director,

1530
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,730
there's there's people on
Brighty on and rumble there who

1531
01:26:56,730 --> 01:26:59,190
are not toeing the line. What
are we going to do with this

1532
01:26:59,190 --> 01:27:01,860
misinformation is
disinformation, its problems.

1533
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,640
Unknown: We've seen a lot of
misinformation, disinformation

1534
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:06,750
and conspiracy theories,

1535
01:27:06,810 --> 01:27:09,900
Adam Curry: conspiracy theories.
Oh, no. What how is it a

1536
01:27:09,900 --> 01:27:17,460
conspiracy theory? What's the
conspiracy theory? Okay, I'm

1537
01:27:17,460 --> 01:27:17,850
sorry.

1538
01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:20,610
John C Dvorak: The vaccine
doesn't work as a conspiracy

1539
01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:21,060
theory.

1540
01:27:21,150 --> 01:27:22,650
Adam Curry: And maybe she's
talking about the the

1541
01:27:22,650 --> 01:27:24,510
nanoparticle guy with the

1542
01:27:24,780 --> 01:27:28,110
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
But maybe that is a conspiracy.

1543
01:27:28,140 --> 01:27:29,610
That is a conspiracy Russian

1544
01:27:29,700 --> 01:27:33,000
Unknown: disinformation and
conspiracy theories on online,

1545
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,950
especially about the vaccines
and

1546
01:27:34,980 --> 01:27:39,150
Adam Curry: online especially.
We're conspiracy therapists and

1547
01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:39,660
young lady

1548
01:27:39,690 --> 01:27:43,050
Unknown: now you have a governor
who is pushing some of this

1549
01:27:43,050 --> 01:27:45,150
thing that Floridians are being
used as guinea pigs, and he's

1550
01:27:45,150 --> 01:27:47,610
just not going to allow it. What
is your response to his state?

1551
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,860
Adam Curry: Did he said that to
you said that they were guinea

1552
01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:53,880
pigs. I mean, remember that this
sounds like an actual conspiracy

1553
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,790
theory to me that he said all
these things. I did hear that?

1554
01:27:56,940 --> 01:27:59,070
Unknown: Well, first, I want
folks to know that these

1555
01:27:59,070 --> 01:28:02,220
vaccines have been thoroughly
and independently reviewed both

1556
01:28:02,220 --> 01:28:04,650
by the FDA and CDC experts.

1557
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,410
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Thoroughly
and independently reviewed.

1558
01:28:07,410 --> 01:28:11,970
They've been tested on mice.
There's no human trials of this

1559
01:28:11,970 --> 01:28:14,040
later this updated vaccine.

1560
01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:16,800
Unknown: But you know, I'm not
just the CDC director. I'm also

1561
01:28:16,830 --> 01:28:17,340
a mom.

1562
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,710
Adam Curry: Owner. I'm also the
owner of the Hair Club for Men.

1563
01:28:23,070 --> 01:28:27,510
No, but this is interesting. I'm
also a mom. Now now seeing as

1564
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:32,160
she's the CDC director, and
she's a mom, you would think

1565
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,600
that she has been Vaxxed double
Vax, double boosted had the same

1566
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,300
done for her family for
children. Would you agree?

1567
01:28:40,170 --> 01:28:43,380
John C Dvorak: I would say she'd
been double Vaxxed and at least

1568
01:28:43,380 --> 01:28:44,580
double boosted if not

1569
01:28:44,670 --> 01:28:47,250
Adam Curry: triple boosted. And
let's listen and see. We can

1570
01:28:47,250 --> 01:28:47,820
hear that.

1571
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,280
Unknown: But you know, I'm not
just a CDC director. I'm also a

1572
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,490
mom and a wife and a daughter. I
wouldn't recommend something to

1573
01:28:53,490 --> 01:28:56,340
the American people I wouldn't
recommend for my own family, my

1574
01:28:56,340 --> 01:28:59,280
daughters who are nine and 11. I
plan to have them get

1575
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,410
vaccinated. I'm getting
vaccinated my husband,

1576
01:29:01,710 --> 01:29:04,770
Adam Curry: wait a minute.
Shouldn't she say updated

1577
01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:08,550
vaccine? It sounds the way she
says this. It sounds like she

1578
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:10,080
hasn't been vaccinated at all.

1579
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:12,480
John C Dvorak: That's exactly
what it sounds like. And maybe

1580
01:29:12,510 --> 01:29:16,890
that's true and you're in what
you're doing is parsing reality.

1581
01:29:17,099 --> 01:29:19,259
Unknown: I plan to have them get
vaccinated. I'm getting

1582
01:29:19,259 --> 01:29:23,519
vaccinated my husband of course
my parents who are over 65 are

1583
01:29:23,519 --> 01:29:26,909
at the highest risk certainly
want them to get protected. But

1584
01:29:26,909 --> 01:29:30,029
really unfortunately COVID is
still here with us. I know we

1585
01:29:30,029 --> 01:29:33,029
all wish it would be gone but it
is here with us. But the good

1586
01:29:33,029 --> 01:29:35,729
news is we have tools that are
safe and effective to protect

1587
01:29:35,729 --> 01:29:36,149
ourselves

1588
01:29:36,179 --> 01:29:39,119
Adam Curry: now Okay, so tools
again for school safe and

1589
01:29:39,119 --> 01:29:42,359
effective tool. So are these
tools masks let's let's get into

1590
01:29:42,359 --> 01:29:46,289
the mask. Specifically mask. Can
you give us an answer do masks

1591
01:29:46,289 --> 01:29:46,979
works.

1592
01:29:47,009 --> 01:29:49,529
Unknown: I want to ask you about
the recent uptick because I've

1593
01:29:49,529 --> 01:29:54,239
seen the numbers go up over the
last month or so. With that

1594
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:56,789
recent uptick. There are several
school districts that are now

1595
01:29:56,789 --> 01:30:00,569
requiring masks once again. Is
that a good Paul? See, is that

1596
01:30:00,569 --> 01:30:03,569
something that should be
happening that we go back to

1597
01:30:03,569 --> 01:30:04,619
masking at this point?

1598
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,590
Adam Curry: So from the CDC
director, I would expect either

1599
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:13,350
Yes. It's a good policy because
masks work, or no, it's not a

1600
01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:17,520
good policy because children
are,

1601
01:30:17,550 --> 01:30:20,280
John C Dvorak: say need to
breathe, breathe fresh air, not

1602
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:21,810
their own X fluent their

1603
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,840
Adam Curry: own good word that
choking on their own X fluence.

1604
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,870
They can't see each other's
facial expressions, it's very

1605
01:30:27,870 --> 01:30:30,840
bad for child development,
either one I would accept from

1606
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:31,890
her. But

1607
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:34,740
Unknown: you know, we're in a
different place than we were

1608
01:30:34,740 --> 01:30:38,190
before we're outside of the
emergency by COVID is still with

1609
01:30:38,190 --> 01:30:41,100
us. And we know that we have
tools to protect us and answer

1610
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:43,380
the question with your tools.
We've been talking about

1611
01:30:43,380 --> 01:30:45,930
vaccines being one and I hope
everyone gets an updated

1612
01:30:45,930 --> 01:30:49,020
vaccine. But we have others
testing treatment and other

1613
01:30:49,020 --> 01:30:52,530
common sense solution. And yes,
mask masking is one of those

1614
01:30:53,130 --> 01:30:55,200
solutions that folks could
choose to you to

1615
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:59,220
Adam Curry: see how cagey she is
now. See what she's doing? Yes,

1616
01:30:59,220 --> 01:31:01,740
we have other tools. And yes,
mask is something people could

1617
01:31:01,740 --> 01:31:02,490
choose to

1618
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:05,400
Unknown: use protect themselves
from this virus, it's important

1619
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,270
to know your own risk. Are you
around folks who are older or

1620
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:12,630
who have underlying conditions,
then we need to use more layers

1621
01:31:12,630 --> 01:31:13,440
of protection.

1622
01:31:13,470 --> 01:31:15,750
Adam Curry: He's not saying mask
layers of protection.

1623
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,050
Unknown: The fact is, we have
tools, we need to use them. And

1624
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,540
we're going to keep talking
about the ways folks can protect

1625
01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:22,110
themselves.

1626
01:31:22,170 --> 01:31:25,620
Adam Curry: No answer. That is
literally not an answer.

1627
01:31:25,650 --> 01:31:27,780
Unknown: Do you think that this
is a good recommendation that

1628
01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:30,570
schools should be masking? Now?
As I said, there are several

1629
01:31:30,570 --> 01:31:32,970
schools I think Maryland, one of
them, where they're saying,

1630
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,530
Okay, now you have to mask
again?

1631
01:31:34,860 --> 01:31:38,160
Adam Curry: Okay. She's clearly
asking the question again.

1632
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,470
John C Dvorak: Yes, the second
go round? Yes,

1633
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:42,660
Adam Curry: you could, because
even the CNN lady was not

1634
01:31:42,660 --> 01:31:44,190
satisfied with that non answer.

1635
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,860
Unknown: Well, we want Facebook.
Look,

1636
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,680
Adam Curry: when you when you
start off with Look, no answers

1637
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:50,130
coming?

1638
01:31:50,340 --> 01:31:52,980
Unknown: Well, we want folks to
be reacting to what they're

1639
01:31:52,980 --> 01:31:55,590
seeing on the ground in their
community and making sure that

1640
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:58,320
they're protecting themselves.
We want folks to know that there

1641
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,770
are tools that they can use. But
there are more things than

1642
01:32:01,770 --> 01:32:05,070
maths, remember, ventilation,
don't forget your vaccine, wash

1643
01:32:05,070 --> 01:32:07,560
your hands, stay home when
you're sick. These are layers of

1644
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,440
tools that we have right now.
And we want to just empower

1645
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:13,950
folks to use those tools and and
support them in any way we can.

1646
01:32:14,820 --> 01:32:20,670
John C Dvorak: No, I was washing
your hands a tool. A tool is

1647
01:32:20,670 --> 01:32:23,940
washing your hands. It's a tool.
Do you have any washing your

1648
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:28,080
hand tool there? Yeah, have a
three quarter inch washing your

1649
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:28,620
hand?

1650
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:33,030
Adam Curry: Open the window?
It's a good tool. opening

1651
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:34,260
windows is a tool.

1652
01:32:35,070 --> 01:32:36,930
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
she said. All right, let's

1653
01:32:36,930 --> 01:32:38,850
Adam Curry: get down to the crux
of it. Because this is why we're

1654
01:32:38,850 --> 01:32:42,060
here. We need to promote the
product, do the updated vaccines

1655
01:32:42,060 --> 01:32:42,810
work?

1656
01:32:43,170 --> 01:32:45,810
Unknown: I do want to ask you
about the the vaccination

1657
01:32:46,410 --> 01:32:48,480
John C Dvorak: question I see.
Of course, you gave up on the

1658
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:50,790
question. I always do this. By
the way, if you anyone out there

1659
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:54,150
who doesn't notice, they go
down, take two shots at it.

1660
01:32:54,180 --> 01:32:57,060
Yeah. And that's it. And that's
it. They're not going to know

1661
01:32:57,060 --> 01:32:59,520
what they should. Do you know
why? Then your journalists will

1662
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:04,020
say, Well, hold on a second.
It's a simple question. Can you

1663
01:33:04,020 --> 01:33:06,390
ask answer it? Yes, sir. No,

1664
01:33:06,510 --> 01:33:09,630
Adam Curry: no, that's only for
Congress in the Senate. Exactly.

1665
01:33:09,630 --> 01:33:11,310
That's that's where that gets
asked.

1666
01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:13,470
John C Dvorak: And they don't
get the answer either. So it

1667
01:33:13,470 --> 01:33:15,150
doesn't work. But she answered

1668
01:33:15,180 --> 01:33:17,850
Adam Curry: that so that we can
look out for the messaging. The

1669
01:33:17,850 --> 01:33:21,660
messaging is, it's an updated
vaccine. And it's just one of

1670
01:33:21,660 --> 01:33:26,220
many tools, tools, which include
washing your hands, opening the

1671
01:33:26,220 --> 01:33:30,420
window, standing on your head,
putting a bag over your head,

1672
01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:33,240
lots of tools, like we can come
up with a whole toolkit. In

1673
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:33,780
fact,

1674
01:33:33,870 --> 01:33:36,780
Unknown: I do want to ask you
about the the vaccines and how

1675
01:33:36,780 --> 01:33:40,860
well how well do they work? And
do they actually help reduce

1676
01:33:40,890 --> 01:33:43,770
transmissions of the virus at
all this latest?

1677
01:33:45,690 --> 01:33:51,930
Adam Curry: Updated, updated,
updated, updated and updated

1678
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,390
vaccine? Oh, did you squirt it
out?

1679
01:33:55,980 --> 01:33:59,340
Unknown: Yes. So we know that
these vaccines are safe and

1680
01:33:59,340 --> 01:34:00,180
they're effective,

1681
01:34:00,330 --> 01:34:03,480
Adam Curry: safe and effective?
Do they work safe and effective

1682
01:34:03,509 --> 01:34:05,819
Unknown: preventing the worst of
what COVID? Can?

1683
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:10,980
Adam Curry: This is great. Do
they prevent you? She said Do

1684
01:34:10,980 --> 01:34:15,840
they prevent transmission? The
question is really simple. Do

1685
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,590
they prevent transmission
Director of the CDC, the person

1686
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:21,600
who is in charge of our health?

1687
01:34:22,050 --> 01:34:25,560
Unknown: Yes. So we know that
these vaccines are safe and

1688
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:29,310
they're effective at preventing
the worst of what COVID can can

1689
01:34:29,310 --> 01:34:32,010
bring to you and that is putting
you in the hospital or dying.

1690
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,220
Unfortunately, we're still
seeing hundreds of people over

1691
01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:38,250
65 dying each week. Okay, so

1692
01:34:38,940 --> 01:34:42,120
Adam Curry: you're safe and
effective at stopping the worst

1693
01:34:42,180 --> 01:34:46,740
of COVID which is getting you
sick and you dying.

1694
01:34:46,770 --> 01:34:51,630
Unfortunately, we're seeing
people dying. What is going on

1695
01:34:51,660 --> 01:34:52,200
here

1696
01:34:52,230 --> 01:34:54,930
Unknown: with COVID We have
about 20,000 folks in the

1697
01:34:54,930 --> 01:34:58,890
hospital right now with COVID.
So what the vaccine can do is

1698
01:34:58,890 --> 01:35:01,620
protect you from the war. First
of what COVID is, but remember

1699
01:35:01,620 --> 01:35:05,220
the vaccine early data is
showing us it can also prevent

1700
01:35:05,220 --> 01:35:07,830
you from getting long COVID. We
don't

1701
01:35:07,830 --> 01:35:10,200
Adam Curry: even know what long
COVID is yet,

1702
01:35:11,010 --> 01:35:13,980
John C Dvorak: then this is
bogus. This is not true. No,

1703
01:35:14,190 --> 01:35:17,340
Unknown: of course not decreases
your risk of getting long COVID,

1704
01:35:17,340 --> 01:35:19,050
which is extended symptoms,

1705
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,690
Adam Curry: I didn't expect
this. I mean, so let's just

1706
01:35:21,690 --> 01:35:26,040
review. It will protect you, you
won't get COVID The President of

1707
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,820
the United States said that,
then it was 90% 95% effective,

1708
01:35:29,970 --> 01:35:33,180
then it was 75% effective then
was 65%, then you needed a

1709
01:35:33,180 --> 01:35:36,330
booster. And then you know, you
Oh, it's only good for a couple

1710
01:35:36,330 --> 01:35:38,970
of months, you need another
booster. And you need to you

1711
01:35:38,970 --> 01:35:42,330
know, get it, there's an uptick
in into the booster. And well,

1712
01:35:42,330 --> 01:35:45,150
it's not going to stop
transmission. It's not going to

1713
01:35:45,150 --> 01:35:48,390
do that. But it will stop you
from getting really sick and

1714
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:52,290
going to the hospital. Now,
it'll stop the worst of what

1715
01:35:52,290 --> 01:35:56,190
COVID can do. Like COVID, some
some boogey man with a gun

1716
01:35:56,190 --> 01:36:00,690
outside your door. And now, and
now they've resorted to well, if

1717
01:36:00,690 --> 01:36:03,270
you're not in the hospital, and
you don't die, you won't get

1718
01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:06,690
long COVID But it's safe and
effective from

1719
01:36:06,690 --> 01:36:09,990
Unknown: that COVID virus. So
yes, protecting from the worst,

1720
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:13,320
but also protecting you from
potential long term symptoms

1721
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:15,390
from this virus even if you have
a mild case.

1722
01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:18,330
Adam Curry: What a lie.

1723
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,060
John C Dvorak: You have a mild
case

1724
01:36:21,090 --> 01:36:23,610
Adam Curry: back to us, though,
what about all those anti

1725
01:36:23,610 --> 01:36:25,140
vaxxers on podcasts?

1726
01:36:25,170 --> 01:36:27,990
Unknown: I can't help but tell
you this story. I was in several

1727
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:32,670
hospitals at the height of this
pandemic and what were

1728
01:36:32,670 --> 01:36:37,050
Adam Curry: you doing? What were
you doing and why would you do

1729
01:36:37,050 --> 01:36:37,560
that

1730
01:36:37,620 --> 01:36:41,130
Unknown: of this pandemic. And
one of the things I heard from

1731
01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:44,460
someone in the hospital for one
of the nurses, they said someone

1732
01:36:44,460 --> 01:36:47,370
came in here they had COVID It
was really really bad. They

1733
01:36:47,370 --> 01:36:50,220
couldn't breathe and the
person's wife says Don't you

1734
01:36:50,220 --> 01:36:54,720
dare give them that vaccine. It
is dangerous. It is deadly. This

1735
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,170
is one of those big issues this
anti vaccine center Hold

1736
01:36:58,170 --> 01:37:01,710
John C Dvorak: on. somebody's
dying of COVID You don't know.

1737
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:04,380
What's the vaccine gonna do?
It's not It's therapeutic.

1738
01:37:04,380 --> 01:37:05,220
Exactly.

1739
01:37:05,490 --> 01:37:08,190
Adam Curry: Exactly. Story is
bogus. She wasn't in the

1740
01:37:08,190 --> 01:37:11,370
hospital. She has no story is
bogus. She's she's trying to

1741
01:37:11,370 --> 01:37:15,360
find a bridge, a bridge to get
into banty Bagri.

1742
01:37:15,390 --> 01:37:16,740
John C Dvorak: I agree. This is
bullshit.

1743
01:37:16,980 --> 01:37:19,230
Unknown: And one of the things I
heard from someone in the

1744
01:37:19,230 --> 01:37:21,600
hospital for one of the nurses,
they said in the

1745
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,240
Adam Curry: hearse, so something
I heard from someone in the

1746
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,960
hospital from one of the nurses.
So it's third hand information.

1747
01:37:28,020 --> 01:37:30,930
Unknown: Someone came in here
they had COVID It was really,

1748
01:37:30,930 --> 01:37:33,540
really bad. They couldn't
breathe and the person's wife

1749
01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:37,350
says Don't you dare give them
that vaccine. It is dangerous.

1750
01:37:37,380 --> 01:37:41,550
It is deadly. This is one of
those big issues is anti vaccine

1751
01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:45,720
sentiment. Do you have a
specific plan to try and combat

1752
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,320
it? And how worried are you
about a rise and this anti

1753
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:50,430
vaccine sentiment?

1754
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:54,630
Adam Curry: Okay. Just to make
clear, I don't think Adam or

1755
01:37:54,630 --> 01:37:59,550
John have any anti vaccine
sentiment. We are anti these

1756
01:37:59,550 --> 01:38:03,330
bullcrap vaccines that don't
work under the newly changed

1757
01:38:03,330 --> 01:38:07,890
definition of vaccine, which is
a vaccine is a shot that you get

1758
01:38:07,890 --> 01:38:11,850
that doesn't do anything. But
you won't get long COVID It's

1759
01:38:11,850 --> 01:38:12,810
just a tool.

1760
01:38:13,470 --> 01:38:15,240
Unknown: Well, it's really
important that we are

1761
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,270
communicating with folks and
having longer conversations to

1762
01:38:18,270 --> 01:38:20,610
make sure that we're addressing
people's questions,

1763
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,340
Adam Curry: please the questions
though you're not answering

1764
01:38:23,340 --> 01:38:28,740
them? Does it work? Is it for
real do maths work? You're gonna

1765
01:38:28,740 --> 01:38:32,550
have longer conversations, why
longer conversations, You're

1766
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:33,600
boring me already,

1767
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:38,220
Unknown: that they understand
the data that we see. That's why

1768
01:38:38,220 --> 01:38:41,250
I'm sharing personally what I
would recommend for my own

1769
01:38:41,310 --> 01:38:43,710
family in terms of vaccination.
So it's

1770
01:38:43,710 --> 01:38:45,750
Adam Curry: just a personal
endorsement. It's not based on

1771
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:48,570
science or numbers, which you
haven't given us. It's just it's

1772
01:38:48,570 --> 01:38:51,240
an endorsement by a lady who has
a badge.

1773
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:53,520
Unknown: I know folks want to be
healthy.

1774
01:38:53,550 --> 01:38:55,320
John C Dvorak: Get this clip,
CNN.

1775
01:38:55,980 --> 01:39:00,120
Adam Curry: This is CNN. I mean,
luckily, no one watches. But

1776
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,170
what have dog do we have a dog
alert?

1777
01:39:04,980 --> 01:39:05,910
John C Dvorak: But dog alert?

1778
01:39:06,059 --> 01:39:07,049
Adam Curry: Let me finish this
clip

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01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,080
John C Dvorak: family, finish
the clip and then stop taping

1780
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,030
I'll come back after the clip.
It's not funny.

1781
01:39:12,030 --> 01:39:15,000
Adam Curry: Well, let me 36
seconds. Can he hold on for 36

1782
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:15,810
hours? Yes, he can.

1783
01:39:16,589 --> 01:39:19,469
Unknown: Only what I would
recommend for my own family in

1784
01:39:19,469 --> 01:39:23,219
terms of vaccination. I know
folks want to be healthy, that

1785
01:39:23,219 --> 01:39:26,459
they want their families to be
safe. So we're just going to

1786
01:39:26,459 --> 01:39:29,249
keep communicating about the
good information that we know

1787
01:39:29,279 --> 01:39:30,119
what scientists

1788
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:33,540
John C Dvorak: how's that
communicating anything.

1789
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,850
Adam Curry: She communicated
nothing except her personal

1790
01:39:35,850 --> 01:39:37,050
endorsement healthy,

1791
01:39:37,050 --> 01:39:40,140
Unknown: that they want their
families to be safe. So we're

1792
01:39:40,140 --> 01:39:42,780
just going to keep communicating
about the good information that

1793
01:39:42,780 --> 01:39:45,600
we know the scientific
information that we're seeing.

1794
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,330
We want to communicate as
transparently as we can and

1795
01:39:48,330 --> 01:39:50,910
answer folks questions we
encourage folks to visit

1796
01:39:50,910 --> 01:39:53,100
cdc.gov No

1797
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:55,170
Adam Curry: court but but visit
cdc.gov

1798
01:39:55,650 --> 01:39:58,290
Unknown: and get their questions
answered and engage with your

1799
01:39:58,290 --> 01:40:03,000
doctor with a nurse practitioner
ask a good question. And make

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sure you're using tools to
protect yourself.

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01:40:05,310 --> 01:40:07,980
Dr. Mandy Cohen,
congratulations. You are the new

1802
01:40:07,980 --> 01:40:11,040
CDC director. Lots of work to be
done. Thank you so much for

1803
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:12,150
answering our questions here.

1804
01:40:12,990 --> 01:40:14,130
John C Dvorak: unanswered
question.

1805
01:40:14,220 --> 01:40:16,170
Adam Curry: Thank you for
answering their questions. Hey,

1806
01:40:16,170 --> 01:40:18,720
whatever you do, come back.

1807
01:40:19,380 --> 01:40:23,370
John C Dvorak: I've got some
clips of the RF cage or FK Jr.

1808
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:23,940
Up.

1809
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:27,390
Adam Curry: Bobby The Office
back, everybody. All right.

1810
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:30,180
John C Dvorak: He's hasn't gone
anywhere. No, I know. Because

1811
01:40:30,180 --> 01:40:32,190
the way they're doing it,
they're rolling it out funny.

1812
01:40:32,490 --> 01:40:34,890
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. I'm
ready. What? Well, it

1813
01:40:34,890 --> 01:40:37,830
John C Dvorak: looks as if,
well, let's play the app. And

1814
01:40:37,830 --> 01:40:39,660
we'll discuss after the three
clips

1815
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:42,990
Unknown: and Biden may have
competition. A recent poll has

1816
01:40:42,990 --> 01:40:45,600
good news for Robert F. Kennedy
Jr. Right? This is

1817
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,580
Adam Curry: NTD. I'm just
assuming

1818
01:40:48,690 --> 01:40:50,490
John C Dvorak: you can play the
jingle if you want.

1819
01:40:50,519 --> 01:40:56,699
Adam Curry: No, no, I did not.
Yes, it is Ed. Kennedy. Yeah.

1820
01:40:56,699 --> 01:41:00,509
Oh, really? Oh, that I have done
I do have to play. Yeah, they're

1821
01:41:00,509 --> 01:41:00,749
Pro

1822
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:06,750
Unknown: D, D, and Biden may
have competition. A recent poll

1823
01:41:06,750 --> 01:41:10,020
has good news for Robert F.
Kennedy, Jr. Even as the

1824
01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:13,680
candidate may be considering
running as an independent. We

1825
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,230
spoke with an epic Times
reporter to dive into his

1826
01:41:16,230 --> 01:41:19,140
campaign. Jeff Louderback, thank
you so much for joining us. Good

1827
01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:21,450
to have you back on the show. It
seems right now Rumors are

1828
01:41:21,450 --> 01:41:25,410
swirling that RFK Jr. might run
as an independent separating

1829
01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:27,780
himself from the Democratic
Party. That's after some

1830
01:41:27,810 --> 01:41:31,110
convention contention with the
Democratic National Committee.

1831
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,440
From what you've seen from his
campaign. What has he been

1832
01:41:34,440 --> 01:41:36,270
saying about all of this? Well,
it's

1833
01:41:36,270 --> 01:41:39,240
interesting, because I've been
covering the campaigns and I

1834
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:43,740
believe may and for several
months, he would say when asked

1835
01:41:43,740 --> 01:41:45,930
that question, if he would run
as a third party or an

1836
01:41:45,930 --> 01:41:49,890
independent, that he's a
Democrat. He wants to restore

1837
01:41:49,890 --> 01:41:54,810
the party to what it was when
his uncle JFK and his father RFK

1838
01:41:55,110 --> 01:42:00,930
were President and Senator
respectively. And he he would

1839
01:42:00,930 --> 01:42:03,780
say that he wants to get the
nomination. He wants to restore

1840
01:42:03,780 --> 01:42:08,070
the party back to what it was,
but and in the last month, like

1841
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:13,080
in New Hampshire, recently, he
was talking about how that if

1842
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,580
the DNC makes it difficult for
him that he has to consider all

1843
01:42:17,580 --> 01:42:18,600
his options.

1844
01:42:19,950 --> 01:42:24,720
And now a Rasmussen poll from
just two days ago shows that 33%

1845
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,950
of Democrats say they would vote
for RFK if he was a third party.

1846
01:42:29,250 --> 01:42:32,460
From what you've seen on the
ground. How would him running as

1847
01:42:32,460 --> 01:42:35,070
an independent impact the
election cycle?

1848
01:42:36,420 --> 01:42:39,060
Adam Curry: Yeah, the 33 is a
dead giveaway. I'm okay, I'm

1849
01:42:39,060 --> 01:42:41,370
with you. It's an OP. If if
they're thrown out the 30

1850
01:42:41,370 --> 01:42:44,610
threes, all of a sudden funding
a Rasmussen poll. Isn't the

1851
01:42:44,610 --> 01:42:49,890
Rasmussen poll? Like aren't they
like Republican GOP pollsters?

1852
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:55,110
John C Dvorak: Kinda? Yeah, 33.

1853
01:42:55,170 --> 01:42:56,430
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. All
right.

1854
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:58,770
John C Dvorak: All right. So
he's gonna run it day

1855
01:42:58,770 --> 01:43:03,420
independent. What's happening is
that the DNC is not giving in to

1856
01:43:03,420 --> 01:43:07,200
anything he wants to do. They
look at him as a lunatic and

1857
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,900
they're not going to let him run
as a Democrat or getting on any

1858
01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:12,240
ballots. Right. He's okay. What
happens if I run into it as an

1859
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,810
independent? How you think you
guys are going to do if I'm

1860
01:43:15,810 --> 01:43:16,980
running as an independent

1861
01:43:17,009 --> 01:43:20,459
Adam Curry: right post 33%?
Away, apparently. Yeah.

1862
01:43:21,300 --> 01:43:23,610
John C Dvorak: Which is not
nothing to sneeze. I hear it.

1863
01:43:23,610 --> 01:43:24,930
And that's the Democrats think,

1864
01:43:25,260 --> 01:43:28,020
Adam Curry: I think Joe Rogan,
said he, he would vote for

1865
01:43:28,020 --> 01:43:28,500
Kennedy.

1866
01:43:30,630 --> 01:43:32,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that
wouldn't surprise me in the

1867
01:43:32,460 --> 01:43:34,650
least that was right up his
alley. Bartender

1868
01:43:34,650 --> 01:43:37,380
Adam Curry: would and Joe Rogan
wouldn't not vote for him just

1869
01:43:37,380 --> 01:43:40,740
because he was a third party. I
mean, that shows no party guy.

1870
01:43:41,490 --> 01:43:43,860
John C Dvorak: That's the way it
is, I think with everybody.

1871
01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:47,250
Right? If Kennedy is on the
ballot, he's gonna get his

1872
01:43:47,250 --> 01:43:49,950
votes. And in fact, they
discussed that in part two.

1873
01:43:50,130 --> 01:43:50,670
Well, what I

1874
01:43:50,670 --> 01:43:53,370
Unknown: find interesting is
that every town hall or meet and

1875
01:43:53,370 --> 01:43:57,960
greet every tour that I go to,
there's a wide mix of people.

1876
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,930
There's people who voted for
Biden, President Biden in 2020.

1877
01:44:00,930 --> 01:44:04,860
There's people who supported
President Trump in 2016 and

1878
01:44:04,860 --> 01:44:10,770
2020. He has a wide spectrum of
political supporters. I think,

1879
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,320
from what they've said, They
said they'll support him,

1880
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,560
regardless of whether he's a
Democrat or an Independent. I

1881
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,310
think a lot of Republicans. If
he decided to run as a

1882
01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:23,670
Republican, I think he would do
well. And that primary is just,

1883
01:44:24,060 --> 01:44:26,640
he talks about how it's a
movement. That's what he's

1884
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,970
trying to create. From what I've
seen about being heavily

1885
01:44:29,970 --> 01:44:33,660
involved in covering it. Just
seems like that's accurate.

1886
01:44:33,660 --> 01:44:36,630
There's a lot of enthusiasm
regardless of where he goes.

1887
01:44:37,770 --> 01:44:41,850
And speaking of that wide net of
support that he gets one picture

1888
01:44:41,850 --> 01:44:45,090
he posted recently getting a lot
of attention is with Pierce

1889
01:44:45,090 --> 01:44:49,710
Brosnan former James Bond glory.
This was at a fundraiser from

1890
01:44:49,710 --> 01:44:52,440
what you've seen what other
celebrities appeared to be

1891
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:53,520
backing him tall.

1892
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:56,610
Well, when you're at Kennedy,
obviously you have a natural fit

1893
01:44:56,610 --> 01:45:01,200
for ties to celebrities, but he
or have K Jr, who is married to

1894
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:06,990
Cheryl Hines from Curb Your
Enthusiasm, fame. And so he has

1895
01:45:06,990 --> 01:45:12,720
a big network and they live in
Los Angeles. So Pierce Brosnan.

1896
01:45:13,470 --> 01:45:17,580
He recently had a fundraiser
with Eric Clapton performing and

1897
01:45:17,580 --> 01:45:22,860
that raise $2.2 million for his
campaign. Leisha Silverstone

1898
01:45:22,860 --> 01:45:27,600
just came out and endorsed him.
And a funny thing, Woody

1899
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:32,700
Harrelson who was photographed
with RFK, Jr. and took a lot of

1900
01:45:32,700 --> 01:45:36,660
heat. And I had asked him about
that and and he said that well,

1901
01:45:36,660 --> 01:45:39,180
he probably isn't doesn't even
know he's taking heat because

1902
01:45:39,180 --> 01:45:44,250
he's off the grid. He's not on
social media. So I don't think

1903
01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:47,070
it could hurt in today's
climate. I don't know if it

1904
01:45:47,070 --> 01:45:52,740
helps or not. But he is getting,
getting a lot of support from

1905
01:45:52,830 --> 01:45:53,970
well known people.

1906
01:45:54,420 --> 01:45:58,560
Adam Curry: If I may just say
this guy's report is blame. I

1907
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,430
could have given you that
report. But I get the point.

1908
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,410
John C Dvorak: That's the point.
We can all do. We don't need any

1909
01:46:07,410 --> 01:46:10,290
of these clips, we can do the
whole thing. But these are this

1910
01:46:10,290 --> 01:46:13,110
is just confirmation of what's
going on, especially within the

1911
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:17,130
OP now they get the Hollywood
celebrities on board, which is

1912
01:46:17,130 --> 01:46:21,330
just says to me, okay, this is
this, we're getting there. And

1913
01:46:21,330 --> 01:46:21,570
well,

1914
01:46:21,570 --> 01:46:26,430
Adam Curry: and I will reiterate
that the fact that Cheryl Hines

1915
01:46:26,430 --> 01:46:30,360
has not been strung up drawn and
quartered and throw in thrown in

1916
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:35,910
stocks for being married to this
horrible anti Vaxxer Joe Rogan

1917
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:39,270
loving loser says that something
is up.

1918
01:46:40,020 --> 01:46:43,290
John C Dvorak: Something's up I
think. Doesn't we don't get into

1919
01:46:43,290 --> 01:46:45,450
it too much more at the last
clip, but it's just kind of

1920
01:46:45,450 --> 01:46:45,960
interesting.

1921
01:46:46,020 --> 01:46:49,050
Unknown: And what is the
significance or impact that you

1922
01:46:49,050 --> 01:46:52,470
see these celebrities seeming to
back him have especially due to

1923
01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:55,770
some of our code juniors more
controversial stances say on

1924
01:46:55,770 --> 01:46:56,640
vaccines?

1925
01:46:56,790 --> 01:47:00,150
Well, that seems to be contrary,
doesn't it? It seems like

1926
01:47:00,150 --> 01:47:05,400
Hollywood is all in on COVID
vaccines and COVID mandates. It

1927
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,870
just seems that way. California
as a whole. I don't know. I

1928
01:47:09,870 --> 01:47:13,320
can't really say whether that
will help or hurt. But I think

1929
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:17,100
that just goes to show he has a
wide spectrum of support that

1930
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:21,180
you otherwise wouldn't think.
Like, obviously, President Trump

1931
01:47:21,180 --> 01:47:26,250
has strong support by his base.
But that's a base that is pretty

1932
01:47:26,250 --> 01:47:32,340
much conservative. RFK Jr.
Support seems to go always and

1933
01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:36,450
that's you could throw in the
Hollywood crowd is. That's just

1934
01:47:36,450 --> 01:47:39,120
interesting that he has that
support.

1935
01:47:41,730 --> 01:47:46,200
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't think he he would only

1936
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,450
help Trump win if he ran third
party.

1937
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:55,830
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, one of
these days. You have to remember

1938
01:47:55,830 --> 01:47:58,770
that Abraham Lincoln basically
ran third party.

1939
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:00,570
Adam Curry: Well, I wasn't
around that time.

1940
01:48:01,410 --> 01:48:05,790
John C Dvorak: But the parties
do have the opportunity to to

1941
01:48:05,790 --> 01:48:11,070
lose if he ran third. But yeah,
i i Looking at it would think

1942
01:48:11,070 --> 01:48:13,650
yeah, that's what's going to
happen to or Trump or whoever it

1943
01:48:13,650 --> 01:48:19,890
might even be Trump could be
somebody else. But it's possible

1944
01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:25,560
that the that him running third
party, I mean, it's just to put

1945
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:28,560
the screws to the Democrat party
to tell him you know, to bring

1946
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:34,200
him on board is the this threat
and but it's a real threat.

1947
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,980
Yeah, it's more of a threat than
the one with Joe Manchin and the

1948
01:48:37,980 --> 01:48:40,710
soak whatever that other Well,
here's, here's what

1949
01:48:40,710 --> 01:48:43,860
Adam Curry: I'm what I'm saying.
So Trump has tremendous support

1950
01:48:43,860 --> 01:48:48,240
right now. And I think it's
bleeding over way beyond Maga

1951
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:54,090
country. And the main thing that
he's saying is, I will initiate

1952
01:48:54,090 --> 01:48:58,080
the biggest deportation this
country has ever seen, which I

1953
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:02,790
think is hitting the hot buttons
right now. When you say that

1954
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:05,610
people are paying attention,
particularly people who I don't

1955
01:49:05,610 --> 01:49:08,370
know, want jobs and see some
Venezuelans going in front of

1956
01:49:08,370 --> 01:49:15,510
them. DeSantis is hitting Trump
at the VAX level. No backs I'm

1957
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:19,020
against Vax, I can't you know,
he's he's, that's the only spot

1958
01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:21,480
he can hit. Trump is about the
backs and how's that working?

1959
01:49:21,630 --> 01:49:27,630
Well, Trump has what 50% His 15
something and then to have the

1960
01:49:27,630 --> 01:49:33,780
OP come in. I don't know he's
still a Democrat John. He's, you

1961
01:49:33,780 --> 01:49:38,460
know, all talk. And I've heard
his solutions. He wants a giant

1962
01:49:38,460 --> 01:49:43,020
loan program for people to buy
homes and that none of it sounds

1963
01:49:43,050 --> 01:49:46,260
I mean, he's, he's saying all
the right things. Like

1964
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:50,400
everything's corrupt, but I
don't really hear solutions from

1965
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:56,040
him. And maybe maybe I'm it's a
stretch for maybe America that

1966
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,470
will pay attention this time. I
don't know. I mean, who am I

1967
01:49:58,470 --> 01:49:59,250
kidding, but um, well,

1968
01:49:59,250 --> 01:50:04,410
John C Dvorak: we don't need
another Democrat but so there's

1969
01:50:04,410 --> 01:50:09,660
that aspect to it but but as you
know, as the guy's got an

1970
01:50:09,660 --> 01:50:15,540
appeal, He's appealing he says
the right things is he's got

1971
01:50:15,570 --> 01:50:17,070
he's got panache

1972
01:50:17,399 --> 01:50:22,229
Adam Curry: panache. Well, if
he's an optin he can only be an

1973
01:50:22,259 --> 01:50:25,979
opt to help Trump get elected
and then become Trump's Attorney

1974
01:50:25,979 --> 01:50:28,559
General. Now that would be that
would be an up.

1975
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,640
John C Dvorak: Wow, I didn't
think of that. I loved that one.

1976
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:41,610
You liked it good. Um, well, if
he has an OP, that's what you

1977
01:50:41,610 --> 01:50:43,920
want to do with him. You want to
put him in some position where

1978
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:49,290
he can put the reins on Trump.
And attorney generals that is

1979
01:50:49,290 --> 01:50:49,920
that perfect

1980
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:54,060
Adam Curry: guy. Good one. And
there was something interesting

1981
01:50:54,060 --> 01:50:57,720
that popped up about the CIA
versus dia, did you see the

1982
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:02,490
latest? Seymour Hersh? substack?
No. So just to reiterate,

1983
01:51:02,490 --> 01:51:06,570
Seymour Hersh award winning
journalist but once he started

1984
01:51:06,570 --> 01:51:12,330
to say stuff like Obama is no
good. I'm just paraphrasing. And

1985
01:51:12,330 --> 01:51:16,440
the war, the war in Iraq and
war, Afghanistan is bogus. They

1986
01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:22,020
d platformed. And he became a
kook. Am I characterizing that

1987
01:51:22,020 --> 01:51:23,910
right? He became a kook
overnight,

1988
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:27,390
John C Dvorak: like anybody else
who turns on the Democrat party,

1989
01:51:27,450 --> 01:51:31,650
a cult. The cult goes after him.
And he's one of them. I mean,

1990
01:51:31,650 --> 01:51:34,620
that's why you don't see Ray
McGovern anymore on any of these

1991
01:51:34,620 --> 01:51:39,540
shows. And it just, there's a
slew of these guys that are just

1992
01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:41,610
blackballed, blacklisted.

1993
01:51:41,670 --> 01:51:44,850
Adam Curry: And he, I think he
was on he was being published by

1994
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the London School of books or
something with the London

1995
01:51:47,910 --> 01:51:50,580
John C Dvorak: book, a journal,
a book review or some book

1996
01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:51,570
review. Yeah. So

1997
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Adam Curry: so he told me you
have books, totally

1998
01:51:54,660 --> 01:51:58,410
marginalized, deeper up the
platform. But I think we you and

1999
01:51:58,410 --> 01:52:01,800
I have always liked his stuff.
And although he sometimes seems

2000
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:07,440
to go a bit far, I see no
evidence other than his

2001
01:52:07,470 --> 01:52:10,410
assessment of what happened in
nordstream, is being true and

2002
01:52:10,410 --> 01:52:15,510
correct. And now, he wrote this
piece is called Zelinsky is bad

2003
01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:19,650
moment. And it starts off by
actually by saying is, we're

2004
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coming up on the anniversary,
it's already been a year of the

2005
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destruction of nordstream. One
and two. He, he states here that

2006
01:52:29,970 --> 01:52:34,980
the CIA is getting pretty mad,
because the DIA, the Defense

2007
01:52:34,980 --> 01:52:37,890
Intelligence Agency is has the
ear of the White House and his

2008
01:52:37,890 --> 01:52:41,430
saying, Oh, no, everything's
great. You know, we're doing

2009
01:52:41,430 --> 01:52:45,150
pretty good where the offensive
is working. It's going slow, but

2010
01:52:45,150 --> 01:52:50,280
the offensive is working. And
the CIA is saying no, it's not.

2011
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:57,360
It's failed. In fact, I have it
here. There were some early

2012
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,420
Ukrainian penetrations in the
opening days of the June

2013
01:53:00,450 --> 01:53:04,740
offensive, that this is from an
official at or near the heavily

2014
01:53:04,740 --> 01:53:08,160
trapped first of Russia's three
formidable concrete barriers of

2015
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:12,540
defense, the Russians retreated
to sucker them in and they all

2016
01:53:12,540 --> 01:53:16,800
got killed. After weeks of high
casualties and little progress,

2017
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along with horrific losses to
tanks and armored vehicles,

2018
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:23,610
which I have seen. Throughout
the past few months, I have just

2019
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:28,440
on telegram and signal have
received video after video of

2020
01:53:28,440 --> 01:53:31,770
these great tanks that Germany
and everyone else gave to

2021
01:53:31,770 --> 01:53:37,950
Ukraine being destroyed. After
weeks of high casualties and

2022
01:53:37,950 --> 01:53:40,980
little progress, along with
horrific losses to tanks and

2023
01:53:40,980 --> 01:53:43,860
armored vehicles, major elements
of the Ukrainian army without

2024
01:53:43,860 --> 01:53:48,150
declaring so virtually canceled
the offensive. The two villages

2025
01:53:48,150 --> 01:53:52,050
that Ukrainian army recently
claimed as captured are so tiny,

2026
01:53:52,230 --> 01:53:57,510
they could fit between two Burma
Shave signs. And now that's a

2027
01:53:57,540 --> 01:53:59,040
that's a call back to

2028
01:53:59,070 --> 01:54:00,450
John C Dvorak: there's a
reference for you.

2029
01:54:00,990 --> 01:54:03,090
Adam Curry: You want to explain
the Burma Shave signs?

2030
01:54:03,390 --> 01:54:07,680
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they used
to be when, when the highways

2031
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:11,790
were opened up with carska. She
traveled in the 50s 60s and 70s,

2032
01:54:12,090 --> 01:54:14,370
when they were traveling, people
were traveling cross country a

2033
01:54:14,370 --> 01:54:18,720
lot. This company named Burma
Shave would put up the site,

2034
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,210
they'd go to a farmer and you'd
be driving through the middle of

2035
01:54:21,210 --> 01:54:25,170
nowhere, and there'd be a and if
you're a kid, you would really

2036
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:27,990
perk up when you saw these
signs. And it would be a series

2037
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:32,520
of about five or six signs in a
row that in a row and they're

2038
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,970
all you know, they're spaced far
enough apart that you could read

2039
01:54:35,970 --> 01:54:39,060
and because you're driving at 60
miles an hour. So that'd be one

2040
01:54:39,060 --> 01:54:41,640
sign that say something. It was
like a teaser, and then to be

2041
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:45,720
another line, a line a line.
That'd be about five and then

2042
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,330
it'd be some sort of a joke, a
punch line at the end. And then

2043
01:54:48,330 --> 01:54:52,200
at the very, very end of the
signs would be a sign that had

2044
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:56,310
the Burma Shave logo on it just
said Burma Shave. And these were

2045
01:54:56,340 --> 01:55:00,120
everywhere across the country
and they were very funny and and

2046
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,660
kids and parents would read the
signs as you were zoomed by each

2047
01:55:03,660 --> 01:55:09,360
one. It was like it was a
highlight of driving in the

2048
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:15,480
middle of nowhere middle of Mid
America. So the signs have all

2049
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,810
been knocked over and gone. I
think that became collectible.

2050
01:55:20,610 --> 01:55:22,440
Adam Curry: I'm surprised you
don't have one in the house

2051
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:23,040
somewhere.

2052
01:55:23,309 --> 01:55:24,059
John C Dvorak: I am too.

2053
01:55:25,140 --> 01:55:27,810
Adam Curry: So the point being
that the the actual ground that

2054
01:55:27,810 --> 01:55:32,940
they've captured is very, very
tiny. And the CIA, they gave up

2055
01:55:33,330 --> 01:55:38,280
at an Hirsch has sources he has
informants he's he's cultivated

2056
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,280
these these sources over what a
50 year career something it's

2057
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:47,070
amazing what he's done as the
60s and he says the CIA. They

2058
01:55:47,070 --> 01:55:56,520
gave up after what after there,
so I'll read verbatim. Putin did

2059
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,400
something stupid no matter how
provoked by violating the UN

2060
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:03,270
Charter and so did we. Meaning
President Biden's decision to

2061
01:56:03,270 --> 01:56:05,850
wage a proxy war with Russia by
fundings, Lenski and his

2062
01:56:06,060 --> 01:56:09,450
military now this is a source
quote. And so now we had to

2063
01:56:09,450 --> 01:56:12,900
paint paint him black. With the
help of the media in order to

2064
01:56:12,900 --> 01:56:16,080
justify our mistake, we're
referring to a secret

2065
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,560
disinformation operation that
was aimed at diminishing Putin

2066
01:56:19,860 --> 01:56:22,860
undertaken by the CIA in
coordination with elements of

2067
01:56:22,860 --> 01:56:26,460
British intelligence. The
successful operation led major

2068
01:56:26,460 --> 01:56:29,460
media outlets here and in
London, to report that the

2069
01:56:29,460 --> 01:56:32,550
Russian president was suffering
from various illnesses that

2070
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:36,930
included blood disorders and
serious cancer. One oft quoted

2071
01:56:36,930 --> 01:56:41,070
story had Putin being treated by
heavy doses of steroids. Not all

2072
01:56:41,070 --> 01:56:44,250
were fooled. The Guardian
skeptically reports we weren't

2073
01:56:44,250 --> 01:56:47,730
fooled. The Guardian skeptically
reported in May of 2022. The

2074
01:56:47,730 --> 01:56:51,600
rumors span the gamut. Vladimir
Putin is suffering from cancer

2075
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,870
or Parkinson's disease,
Parkinson disease, but many

2076
01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:59,100
major news organizations took
the bait in June 2022, Newsweek

2077
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:02,970
splashed, would it build a major
scoop, citing unnamed sources

2078
01:57:02,970 --> 01:57:05,910
saying that Putin had undergone
treatment two months earlier for

2079
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:09,000
advanced cancer, Putin his grip
is strong, but no longer

2080
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:12,240
absolutes, the jocking inside
the Kremlin has never been more

2081
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:16,470
intense. Everyone sensing that
the end is near. So that was the

2082
01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:19,170
end of the CIA's involvement
because of course, I failed

2083
01:57:19,170 --> 01:57:22,290
because it was a lie. And it
wasn't true. And they tried to,

2084
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:26,970
you know, remember the CIA
saying, Oh, yes. 10s of 1000s of

2085
01:57:27,450 --> 01:57:30,630
Russians are reporting to us and
they're all going to help us get

2086
01:57:30,630 --> 01:57:34,410
rid of Putin. Yeah, that was a
good one shows you how pathetic

2087
01:57:34,410 --> 01:57:38,850
it all really is. And so now
we're just now lying to send

2088
01:57:38,850 --> 01:57:42,900
these long range missiles, which
I guess we're gonna shoot him

2089
01:57:42,900 --> 01:57:45,510
into the I guess, the 300
kilometers, we're going to shoot

2090
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:49,410
him into no occupied territory
and do some damage, mostly

2091
01:57:49,410 --> 01:57:50,100
John C Dvorak: Crimea,

2092
01:57:50,250 --> 01:57:54,750
Adam Curry: right of Crimea. And
what Kershaw's saying is this

2093
01:57:54,750 --> 01:58:00,090
war is over. There is no more
war. It just, and I think what

2094
01:58:00,090 --> 01:58:03,810
comes into play now as Russia
just sits where they are in the

2095
01:58:03,900 --> 01:58:07,290
in the demilitarized zone,
because it's filled with

2096
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:12,780
landmines and cluster bomb
cluster munition. Poland

2097
01:58:12,780 --> 01:58:18,750
possibly takes over some of West
Ukraine. It would love to, and

2098
01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:22,590
meanwhile, we've got the
ambassador for the Sharjah

2099
01:58:22,590 --> 01:58:26,130
Michonne. So kind of the
ambassador to Ukraine was this

2100
01:58:26,130 --> 01:58:33,900
Jim oaks name? William Taylor.
And he's just trying to

2101
01:58:33,900 --> 01:58:37,470
propagate the message that the
White House and the Defense

2102
01:58:37,470 --> 01:58:40,980
Intelligence Agency want you to
hear, so that we can keep

2103
01:58:40,980 --> 01:58:45,180
sending money to the military
industrial complex. It's

2104
01:58:45,180 --> 01:58:47,580
becoming so blatantly clear.

2105
01:58:47,610 --> 01:58:50,310
Unknown: Joining us now is
former US ambassador to Ukraine

2106
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:53,880
volume Taylor. This is CNN,
again, is the vice president of

2107
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:58,080
the Russia and Europe center at
the US Institute of Peace. Thank

2108
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,640
you so much for being here.

2109
01:58:59,879 --> 01:59:02,429
Adam Curry: When you see that
the US Institute of Peace, what

2110
01:59:02,429 --> 01:59:03,389
an oxymoron

2111
01:59:03,419 --> 01:59:08,459
Unknown: conflict among us, the
congressmen and congresswomen.

2112
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And you have Zelinsky there
saying I cannot get this done

2113
01:59:12,659 --> 01:59:16,409
without your help. What in the
end happens here? What do you

2114
01:59:16,409 --> 01:59:19,439
see happening to Ukraine? Will
this just be a war that just

2115
01:59:19,469 --> 01:59:21,899
almost a Forever War at this
point, and in this kind of

2116
01:59:21,899 --> 01:59:22,649
stalemate?

2117
01:59:23,670 --> 01:59:28,290
Sure. I don't think so. I think
the number one, there's actually

2118
01:59:28,290 --> 01:59:35,310
some progress. I don't think so.
I think the number one, there's

2119
01:59:35,310 --> 01:59:38,310
actually some progress on the
ground this in progress.

2120
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,560
Adam Curry: This, I think I
think there's some progress on

2121
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:41,520
the ground

2122
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:43,140
Unknown: in the southern part of
Ukraine.

2123
01:59:43,170 --> 01:59:46,380
Adam Curry: You just do that
again. But did you do that? No.

2124
01:59:46,530 --> 01:59:49,290
Unknown: I found there's some
progress in the southern party.

2125
01:59:49,290 --> 01:59:49,830
Wow.

2126
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,190
Adam Curry: Wow. two tails in a
row crane,

2127
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:57,510
Unknown: where the Ukrainian
forces are, slowly grindingly

2128
01:59:57,510 --> 02:00:01,710
bloodedly, very difficult
fighting Horse are moving into

2129
02:00:01,710 --> 02:00:03,270
and pushing the Russians back.

2130
02:00:03,390 --> 02:00:06,000
Adam Curry: Does that sound like
a guy who's really telling the

2131
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:11,220
truth about some some good news
coming out of Ukraine? I don't

2132
02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:11,850
think so.

2133
02:00:12,030 --> 02:00:14,730
Unknown: That's their goal. And
there's some indication that

2134
02:00:14,730 --> 02:00:16,470
that's having some success, some

2135
02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:19,560
John C Dvorak: imitators
occation.

2136
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:22,800
Unknown: In the last couple of
days, we've we're seeing reports

2137
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:26,850
of that number one, number
number two, I expect in the end,

2138
02:00:27,090 --> 02:00:31,050
this assistance package like all
the previous assistance packages

2139
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:32,520
will be approved by Congress.

2140
02:00:32,550 --> 02:00:36,720
Adam Curry: This is the $24
billion assistance package that

2141
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,980
is being used as a political
football for the pending gloom

2142
02:00:40,980 --> 02:00:43,530
and doom of a shutdown of
government.

2143
02:00:44,220 --> 02:00:47,400
Unknown: If you put this to a
vote in both houses, you're

2144
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:51,420
going to get bipartisan support,
good majorities. And the

2145
02:00:51,420 --> 02:00:55,050
question is how to get it to the
vote. But But smarter people

2146
02:00:55,050 --> 02:00:59,190
that I will, will get that, get
that done, when they actually

2147
02:00:59,190 --> 02:01:00,510
vote, it will pass

2148
02:01:01,139 --> 02:01:03,809
John C Dvorak: the T cells and
really come to the RA or the

2149
02:01:03,809 --> 02:01:10,799
Rand Paul clips. All right. went
on for 11 minutes, I have three

2150
02:01:10,889 --> 02:01:16,319
excerpts. And this is to me, I
think, kind of a watershed

2151
02:01:16,319 --> 02:01:19,289
moment, at least well, of
course, he's anti war. But

2152
02:01:19,289 --> 02:01:22,109
listen to Ron Paul screed number
one,

2153
02:01:22,140 --> 02:01:24,930
Unknown: I rise to put the
leadership of the House, the

2154
02:01:24,930 --> 02:01:29,100
Senate and the president united
states on notice. I will not

2155
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:33,690
consent to any expedited passage
of any spending bill that

2156
02:01:33,690 --> 02:01:37,950
provides any more American aid
to Ukraine. It's as if no one

2157
02:01:37,950 --> 02:01:41,550
has noticed that we have no
extra money to send to Ukraine,

2158
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:46,620
our deficit this year will
exceed $1.5 trillion. borrowing

2159
02:01:46,620 --> 02:01:51,480
money from China to send it to
Ukraine makes no sense. It's not

2160
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:54,210
as if we have some sort of rainy
day funds sitting around

2161
02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:56,580
trillions of dollars that a pot
of money, we're just going to

2162
02:01:56,580 --> 02:02:00,300
send that to Ukraine. We're
going to borrow it. When we

2163
02:02:00,300 --> 02:02:04,200
borrow it and create new money
to pay for that borrowing. We

2164
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,290
create the inflation that is
plaguing our economy

2165
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:10,620
Adam Curry: there. See he he's
he mixed his messages. I like

2166
02:02:10,620 --> 02:02:14,610
the idea of why borrow from
China to give to Ukraine. That's

2167
02:02:14,610 --> 02:02:18,570
smart. But then then he confused
he should have just stuck with

2168
02:02:18,780 --> 02:02:21,330
why printed and create
inflation, he just because

2169
02:02:21,330 --> 02:02:24,240
that's the truth of it. But for
some reason he had to throw

2170
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,700
China in there. I think that was
a mistake to get

2171
02:02:26,700 --> 02:02:29,130
John C Dvorak: China. Because
there's a lot of people that

2172
02:02:29,130 --> 02:02:33,240
think that China's lease
financing. It's a mistake. It

2173
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:36,360
could be but you know, it's a
good, but he goes on. And now he

2174
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:40,560
has a nice little little
complaint about the war itself

2175
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:41,340
in part two,

2176
02:02:41,460 --> 02:02:44,370
Unknown: since the beginning of
Russia's war in Ukraine, the

2177
02:02:44,370 --> 02:02:50,910
American taxpayers provided
Ukraine with $113 billion over

2178
02:02:50,910 --> 02:02:55,890
the 583 days of war between
February 24 2022 and the end of

2179
02:02:55,890 --> 02:03:02,430
the month, that averages $6.8
billion per month or $223

2180
02:03:02,490 --> 02:03:06,720
million per day. There's a lot
of things that we need to fix in

2181
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:11,400
our country, before we borrow
money to try to perpetuate a war

2182
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:15,660
in another country. When will
the aid requests and when will

2183
02:03:15,660 --> 02:03:19,980
the war end? Can someone explain
what victory in Ukraine looks

2184
02:03:19,980 --> 02:03:24,780
like? President Biden certainly
can't. His administration has

2185
02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:27,840
failed to articulate a clear
strategy or objective in this

2186
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:31,980
war. And Ukraine's long awaited
counter offensive has failed to

2187
02:03:31,980 --> 02:03:35,580
make meaningful gains in the
east. With no clear end in

2188
02:03:35,580 --> 02:03:39,780
sight. It looks increasingly
like Ukraine will be yet another

2189
02:03:39,810 --> 02:03:44,970
endless quagmire funded by the
American taxpayer. Hmm.

2190
02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:49,530
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then he
does do thing that the the other

2191
02:03:49,530 --> 02:03:54,120
guy kind of suggested as a no
brainer. But Rand Paul thinks

2192
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:57,450
it's a bad idea. And here, he
pitches about the fact that they

2193
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,600
that they are going to shut down
the government unless we give

2194
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:01,680
Ukraine more money.

2195
02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:03,780
Unknown: And now there are those
in the Senate, and who would

2196
02:04:03,780 --> 02:04:07,560
hold the federal government
hostage by inserting $24 billion

2197
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:12,690
more for Ukraine. They're
talking about saying the only

2198
02:04:12,690 --> 02:04:16,140
way government stays open, the
only way we avoid a shutdown is

2199
02:04:16,140 --> 02:04:20,070
by shoveling more American
taxpayer dollars to Ukraine.

2200
02:04:20,250 --> 02:04:23,940
They're going to link keeping
the government open with more

2201
02:04:23,940 --> 02:04:27,570
money to Ukraine. And I'm here
to say that I'm not going to

2202
02:04:27,570 --> 02:04:30,930
agree to it. And I will not let
them shut down the government

2203
02:04:31,020 --> 02:04:33,630
simply because they want to send
more of your hard earned tax

2204
02:04:33,630 --> 02:04:35,100
dollars to Ukraine.

2205
02:04:35,820 --> 02:04:38,730
Adam Curry: This, of course, is
the right message but I think

2206
02:04:38,730 --> 02:04:41,820
that Taylor here the former
ambassador, I think he has a

2207
02:04:41,820 --> 02:04:44,130
right he says oh no people much
smarter than me are going to

2208
02:04:44,130 --> 02:04:47,670
bring this to the vote and it
will it will pass because he

2209
02:04:47,670 --> 02:04:51,660
knows the power. He knows how
everyone with the exception of

2210
02:04:51,660 --> 02:04:58,230
Rand Paul, may be one other is
completely corrupted by money

2211
02:04:58,230 --> 02:05:01,680
for the military industrial
complex. Next, it has to pass.

2212
02:05:01,830 --> 02:05:06,450
There's it's not about Ukraine,
as he says Ukraine. No, it's

2213
02:05:06,450 --> 02:05:09,600
about the money. The money, you
make a

2214
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:11,610
Unknown: great point in the
sense of if it could get to the

2215
02:05:11,610 --> 02:05:14,310
House floor, the requisite
number of votes. Are there,

2216
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:16,830
period, end of story in the
United States Senate, the Senate

2217
02:05:16,830 --> 02:05:19,890
Majority Leader there, Chuck
Schumer, is certainly there.

2218
02:05:19,950 --> 02:05:24,810
There is no bigger supporter or
more, I think bigger defender

2219
02:05:25,410 --> 02:05:27,450
than Senate Minority Leader
Mitch McConnell. I think that's

2220
02:05:27,450 --> 02:05:31,710
why the dynamic is so
interesting right now, because

2221
02:05:31,710 --> 02:05:35,460
the tone felt different
yesterday than when I was in

2222
02:05:35,460 --> 02:05:37,860
Washington for when President
Solinsky came for his first

2223
02:05:37,860 --> 02:05:41,580
visit outside of Ukraine, at the
end of last year for the video

2224
02:05:42,060 --> 02:05:45,990
remarks to the joint session of
Congress a month after the war,

2225
02:05:46,140 --> 02:05:48,960
that total shift, what do you
think is behind that?

2226
02:05:50,430 --> 02:05:54,090
So Phil, it's been a long time.
The Ukrainians have been

2227
02:05:54,090 --> 02:05:58,080
fighting for 19 months, United
States has been supporting for

2228
02:05:58,110 --> 02:06:02,520
19 months, that's a long time to
maintain that kind of focus and

2229
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:06,510
intensity. Ukrainians have no
choice. They have no choice but

2230
02:06:06,510 --> 02:06:10,080
to defend themselves. They're
under attack every day, every

2231
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:15,270
day. And it's up to us to
maintain our support. And so I

2232
02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:19,380
think that that long term
support, I was just in Ukraine

2233
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:22,920
last week, and it's the same
thing. It's a grim

2234
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:27,570
determination. When I was there
a year ago, it was it was

2235
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:30,540
enthusiastic, because the
counter offensive was going so

2236
02:06:30,540 --> 02:06:33,480
well. Now the counter offensive
is going but as

2237
02:06:37,170 --> 02:06:41,460
John C Dvorak: you get a little
a timeline issue here. Yes. The

2238
02:06:41,460 --> 02:06:44,700
counter offensive didn't begin a
year ago, it

2239
02:06:44,700 --> 02:06:47,460
Adam Curry: didn't even start
until the fall like a couple of

2240
02:06:47,490 --> 02:06:51,990
July, June, July, kind of and
they had to keep pushing it off.

2241
02:06:52,020 --> 02:06:55,560
In fact, they called it the
spring offensive. They called it

2242
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:56,550
the spring offensive, this

2243
02:06:56,550 --> 02:06:57,930
John C Dvorak: guy is just full
of it.

2244
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:02,070
Adam Curry: Of course he is he's
trying. He's a pentagon guy, he

2245
02:07:02,070 --> 02:07:05,580
has to make it sound like
they're still fighting going on.

2246
02:07:05,610 --> 02:07:10,350
When I believe her. There's no
fighting going on, it's over.

2247
02:07:10,470 --> 02:07:13,140
But that doesn't mean the money
has to stop flowing. That's all

2248
02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:14,670
that it's ever been about just
in

2249
02:07:14,670 --> 02:07:18,810
Unknown: Ukraine last week, and
it's the same thing. It's a grim

2250
02:07:18,810 --> 02:07:23,460
determination. When I was there
a year ago, it was it was

2251
02:07:23,490 --> 02:07:26,430
enthusiastic, because the
counter offensive was going so

2252
02:07:26,430 --> 02:07:30,060
well. Now the counter offensive
is going, but it's not as

2253
02:07:30,060 --> 02:07:33,720
dramatic. And so the grim
determination is something we

2254
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:36,450
have to support grim
determination.

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02:07:36,660 --> 02:07:39,720
Adam Curry: What does that mean?
That like, I'm gonna die, but

2256
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:42,930
I'm determined. grim
determination. one more clip,

2257
02:07:42,930 --> 02:07:43,890
and we'll get out of this.

2258
02:07:43,950 --> 02:07:47,370
Unknown: May I ask you just sort
of what you think the world is

2259
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:51,090
doing as they look at this sort
of fight in the United States

2260
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:54,900
over this. And as this war has
ground on, what the message is,

2261
02:07:54,900 --> 02:07:58,530
you have McCarthy sort of not
wanting to be seen with him on

2262
02:07:58,530 --> 02:08:01,110
camera, and then suddenly, you
see this picture of them behind

2263
02:08:01,110 --> 02:08:04,260
the scenes standing next to each
other. He did not let Zelinsky

2264
02:08:04,500 --> 02:08:08,040
speak to Congress. What is the
rest of the world doing and how

2265
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:12,300
much of a damage could this
cause? In seeing that there is

2266
02:08:12,300 --> 02:08:15,060
infighting in the United States
over whether to help fund this

2267
02:08:15,060 --> 02:08:15,450
war?

2268
02:08:16,380 --> 02:08:22,650
Well, sir, you're exactly right.
In the back,

2269
02:08:23,339 --> 02:08:24,449
Adam Curry: you're exactly
right.

2270
02:08:25,500 --> 02:08:27,480
Unknown: Seeing that there was
infighting in the United States

2271
02:08:27,510 --> 02:08:29,280
over whether to help fund this
war.

2272
02:08:30,210 --> 02:08:34,590
Well, Sarah, you're exactly
right. And in the in the closed

2273
02:08:34,590 --> 02:08:39,330
meetings, there apparently was
one support even from from Mr.

2274
02:08:39,330 --> 02:08:43,650
McCarthy. Mr. McCall, the the
committed douchebag

2275
02:08:43,650 --> 02:08:45,900
Adam Curry: from Texas who's all
in on war,

2276
02:08:45,930 --> 02:08:49,170
Unknown: the chair Foreign
Relations Committee Chairs said

2277
02:08:49,170 --> 02:08:53,790
that Mr. McCarthy was strong
support on doing more actually,

2278
02:08:53,790 --> 02:08:57,030
these eight tackles these long
range missiles. They were

2279
02:08:57,030 --> 02:09:00,480
pushing the administration to
provide those so there is that

2280
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:04,770
but you're absolutely right. In
public there is this debate is

2281
02:09:04,770 --> 02:09:08,700
complex surprise. People
observing the US government and

2282
02:09:08,700 --> 02:09:12,240
the US machinations political
machinations. They under people

2283
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:15,780
around the world in particular
in Ukraine, they know what's

2284
02:09:15,780 --> 02:09:19,740
going on here. And again, they
they don't they can't win this

2285
02:09:19,740 --> 02:09:23,970
war, in the immediate sense,
without the United States

2286
02:09:23,970 --> 02:09:27,540
leading this coalition leaving
the Alliance so they're counting

2287
02:09:27,540 --> 02:09:29,190
on this kind of support coming
through

2288
02:09:29,220 --> 02:09:31,200
Adam Curry: Degen us they're
going to pass it they're gonna

2289
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:34,350
spend the money John I don't
believe for a second that that

2290
02:09:34,650 --> 02:09:39,240
this is all theater and it's all
gonna be oh, oh, well, we have

2291
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:44,010
to shut down the government.
They're liars all of them. All

2292
02:09:44,010 --> 02:09:46,770
of them. The I'll give Rand Paul
I'll give him a pass. I think

2293
02:09:46,770 --> 02:09:50,940
he's he's always been that way.
He's always been the one guy for

2294
02:09:50,940 --> 02:09:53,820
as long as been doing the show
Rand Paul's well was Ron Paul

2295
02:09:53,820 --> 02:09:56,760
then. But Is dad but Rand Paul
has always been the one guy

2296
02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:58,290
nope, nope, nope, nope.

2297
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,960
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he'd vote
no and stuffed. A vote would be

2298
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:04,440
like, yeah, 99 to one, it would
have been he would be the one

2299
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:08,130
that helps the one guy who would
look him up as him. Yeah. And

2300
02:10:08,130 --> 02:10:11,010
you'd have some great reason for
it and nobody else was paying

2301
02:10:11,010 --> 02:10:12,120
attention to or cared.

2302
02:10:12,150 --> 02:10:15,120
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, usually
it's about the money. But this

2303
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:17,880
is this is this is where we go
down the tubes, man, we're going

2304
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:22,620
down the tubes. It's not good.
It's not this is not the way to

2305
02:10:22,620 --> 02:10:28,260
go. But meanwhile, the new the
Pentagon who we still have been

2306
02:10:28,260 --> 02:10:30,450
waiting for them to pass an
audit.

2307
02:10:31,620 --> 02:10:34,440
John C Dvorak: That'll be the
day well, well, they won't even

2308
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:37,020
in fact, Rand Paul, in that long
thing. He didn't just people

2309
02:10:37,020 --> 02:10:40,470
should look this up. It's a long
screed. He goes on and on about

2310
02:10:40,470 --> 02:10:45,300
the fact that they tried he's
tried and others have tried to

2311
02:10:45,300 --> 02:10:51,030
pass a any bill whatsoever to
get some oversight on the money

2312
02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:55,290
going to Ukraine so we can audit
that money day and it won't get

2313
02:10:55,290 --> 02:10:58,800
passed. Not on I just send him
money who gives a shit what

2314
02:10:58,800 --> 02:10:59,490
happens to it?

2315
02:10:59,820 --> 02:11:03,000
Adam Curry: Well, the
comptroller the Comptroller, the

2316
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,840
Pentagon Comptroller, Gregory
Liddell has good news for us.

2317
02:11:07,590 --> 02:11:12,870
It's very good news. To make
sense of all the provisions,

2318
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:20,700
they have created an AI program
codenamed game changer to gain

2319
02:11:20,700 --> 02:11:24,030
better visibility and
understanding across our various

2320
02:11:24,030 --> 02:11:32,010
budgets. And he's very excited
about this. AI to the rescue. I

2321
02:11:32,010 --> 02:11:35,970
love the name the audacity of
calling it game changer. Oh,

2322
02:11:35,970 --> 02:11:36,390
sure.

2323
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:41,070
John C Dvorak: We can be
cynical. They should call it

2324
02:11:41,070 --> 02:11:41,880
money changer.

2325
02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:43,470
Adam Curry: There you go. And
with that, I'd like to thank you

2326
02:11:43,470 --> 02:11:46,350
for your courage in the morning
to you the man who put the C in

2327
02:11:46,350 --> 02:11:49,590
the CDC q&a Ladies and gentlemen
say hello to my friend on the

2328
02:11:49,590 --> 02:11:52,560
other end the honorable Mr. John
Cena.

2329
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:57,780
John C Dvorak: In the morning,
you and Mr. Adam creating the

2330
02:11:57,780 --> 02:12:00,660
morning shifts and see out there
boots on the ground feet near

2331
02:12:00,660 --> 02:12:02,820
subs in the water that Dames and
nights out there

2332
02:12:02,850 --> 02:12:04,530
Adam Curry: in the morning
controls and control room.

2333
02:12:04,530 --> 02:12:08,760
Hello, I'd like to count even
though we are two hours running

2334
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:15,060
around. Yeah, we have 2109. But
we are two hours into the

2335
02:12:15,060 --> 02:12:20,310
program. I checked after one
hour we were at 26. So we're

2336
02:12:20,310 --> 02:12:23,130
late. We're late to the donation
segment. So I think we have a

2337
02:12:23,130 --> 02:12:27,420
good showing today. And we did
take a short break on

2338
02:12:27,450 --> 02:12:32,130
unbeknownst to the podcast
listener. They dog break, which

2339
02:12:32,130 --> 02:12:37,800
sometimes happens due to age,
age. Thank you trolls for being

2340
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:43,590
here. We appreciate you being
here. And you can join them at

2341
02:12:43,590 --> 02:12:47,970
any time. In fact, 24 hours a
day at troll room.io There's 24

2342
02:12:47,970 --> 02:12:50,370
hours a day. I know agenda
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2343
02:12:50,370 --> 02:12:54,000
show live on Thursdays and
Sundays. But even DH unplugged

2344
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:58,710
is live on Tuesdays there's a
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2345
02:12:58,710 --> 02:13:01,830
troll people who are doing
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2346
02:13:01,830 --> 02:13:05,490
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2347
02:13:05,490 --> 02:13:07,950
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2348
02:13:07,950 --> 02:13:11,400
eventually your legacy Apple
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2349
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:14,400
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They're going after everybody so

2350
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:16,950
eventually you will want to have
something that just works all

2351
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:19,980
the time. With consistency you
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2352
02:13:19,980 --> 02:13:25,560
apps.com or follow us on our
ever shrinking fediverse island

2353
02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:29,670
known as no agenda social.com
Not that we're shrinking. We

2354
02:13:29,670 --> 02:13:35,070
stay at 10,000 members, but we
we seem to be be a small outpost

2355
02:13:35,220 --> 02:13:43,590
of freeze peach on the fediverse
and you can and I also I'm we

2356
02:13:43,590 --> 02:13:46,260
talked about last time that
there's less memes I'm it's kind

2357
02:13:46,260 --> 02:13:49,260
of interesting people have given
up on the memes and just the

2358
02:13:49,290 --> 02:13:52,530
they weren't working. I'm
against it against memes.

2359
02:13:53,010 --> 02:13:54,030
John C Dvorak: I liked the
memes.

2360
02:13:54,150 --> 02:13:56,850
Adam Curry: I use them in the
newsletter. Now you all you just

2361
02:13:56,850 --> 02:13:59,280
want material. That's why you'd
like me, I'm looking for

2362
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:01,860
material course they got no
material. It's always none of

2363
02:14:01,860 --> 02:14:03,750
it's good. There's a piece every

2364
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:05,220
John C Dvorak: once in a while
there's a real good one I

2365
02:14:05,220 --> 02:14:08,640
haven't used yet. No. A mean,
that's good.

2366
02:14:08,670 --> 02:14:13,200
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm very
excited to see that. Of course.

2367
02:14:14,700 --> 02:14:21,030
Unlike on any of the platforms.
We don't have a video component.

2368
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:23,880
We're not sitting here with our
headphones on and waiting for

2369
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:27,900
you to look at us. Which means
we we don't draw too much

2370
02:14:27,900 --> 02:14:30,810
attention to ourselves. We also
don't take any corporate money.

2371
02:14:31,020 --> 02:14:33,210
So we can talk about anything
that we want. In fact, if we

2372
02:14:33,210 --> 02:14:35,670
want to talk a product about a
product because we like it, it's

2373
02:14:35,670 --> 02:14:38,430
because we like it not because
we're getting paid for it. And

2374
02:14:38,430 --> 02:14:43,530
we don't have to feign some kind
of excitement over vaccines so

2375
02:14:43,530 --> 02:14:45,780
we get a stack swag bag

2376
02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:47,550
John C Dvorak: stack of money
next

2377
02:14:48,150 --> 02:14:51,780
Adam Curry: stack or gold bars,
which seems to be much funnier

2378
02:14:51,780 --> 02:14:56,130
than a stack or was it $500,000
stuffed into your coat? I mean

2379
02:14:56,130 --> 02:14:56,880
come on.

2380
02:14:56,910 --> 02:15:00,270
John C Dvorak: Yeah, have the
clips Menendez is a second time

2381
02:15:00,270 --> 02:15:01,260
he's been indicted.

2382
02:15:01,680 --> 02:15:05,310
Adam Curry: But he got away with
it on 2017 Didn't he? And by the

2383
02:15:05,310 --> 02:15:05,580
way I

2384
02:15:05,580 --> 02:15:07,530
John C Dvorak: because he had a
hung jury and they didn't want

2385
02:15:07,530 --> 02:15:08,850
to retry and wasn't

2386
02:15:08,850 --> 02:15:11,490
Adam Curry: there to his wife he
does his new wife seems to be

2387
02:15:11,490 --> 02:15:14,160
the one that brought all the all
the problems in

2388
02:15:15,299 --> 02:15:19,169
John C Dvorak: to share that's
sure she's got nothing to do

2389
02:15:19,169 --> 02:15:19,559
with it.

2390
02:15:21,210 --> 02:15:23,520
Adam Curry: She's the one that
introduced them to the Egyptians

2391
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:28,260
who then started to she's not
innocent. As far as

2392
02:15:28,260 --> 02:15:30,360
John C Dvorak: I know she's also
indicted.

2393
02:15:30,450 --> 02:15:34,080
Adam Curry: Oh good walk in and
that makes sense. So instead her

2394
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:34,320
there's

2395
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:37,080
John C Dvorak: two other guys
him and her just four people

2396
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:41,220
indicted for the scandal. Do you
want to do that? Yeah, money you

2397
02:15:41,220 --> 02:15:42,660
guys sewn into jackets

2398
02:15:42,810 --> 02:15:45,870
Adam Curry: sewn into jackets
and Mercedes convertible and a

2399
02:15:45,870 --> 02:15:52,080
kilo of gold? That I like the
kilo of gold. So instead we just

2400
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:57,390
asked for value return for the
value we will take a kilo a kilo

2401
02:15:57,390 --> 02:16:00,840
of gold? Yeah, absolutely. Will
take a kilo of silver. We don't

2402
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:05,970
care. I mean, gold better
Silver's fine. So we see the

2403
02:16:05,970 --> 02:16:10,620
value people see the value to
for 16 years almost in October,

2404
02:16:10,620 --> 02:16:13,110
people have been saying thank is
very valuable program and they

2405
02:16:13,110 --> 02:16:16,440
send that value back in a
multitude of ways. By being

2406
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:18,660
producers. Everybody's a
producer hitting people in the

2407
02:16:18,660 --> 02:16:22,620
mouth, giving us clips giving us
artwork. Let's talk about that

2408
02:16:22,620 --> 02:16:27,330
for a second. The artists who
not only do they provide artwork

2409
02:16:27,330 --> 02:16:30,420
for every single episode, they
take feedback and criticism

2410
02:16:30,420 --> 02:16:37,290
quite well. And I think they do.
No agenda social. Weird. I think

2411
02:16:37,290 --> 02:16:43,020
they do I think they do. Well,
we were able to pick a piece for

2412
02:16:43,020 --> 02:16:50,520
episode 1592 titled Vermox which
I don't know if anyone took the

2413
02:16:50,520 --> 02:16:53,400
time outside of the people who
listen to the show to look up

2414
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:55,980
what Vermox is, but we thought
it was kind of an interesting

2415
02:16:55,980 --> 02:17:01,080
title. So we ran with it. But
the artwork was bad. brought by

2416
02:17:01,620 --> 02:17:05,970
done by Matt boys. verts
Boisvert boys bear boys word boi

2417
02:17:05,970 --> 02:17:09,540
sbrt. There was a really nice
piece we both agreed kind of

2418
02:17:09,540 --> 02:17:15,690
quickly. It was the F 35 pilots
who was parachuting out of which

2419
02:17:15,690 --> 02:17:18,360
I have an update actually from
an actual

2420
02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:20,190
John C Dvorak: but you know if
it says we're doing bonus stuff

2421
02:17:20,190 --> 02:17:23,670
during the donation segment, I
have the 911 call he made

2422
02:17:23,670 --> 02:17:27,930
supposedly supposedly made from
after he landed in someone's

2423
02:17:27,930 --> 02:17:29,610
backyard. We had

2424
02:17:29,610 --> 02:17:34,860
Unknown: a military jet crash on
the pilot. We need to get rescue

2425
02:17:34,860 --> 02:17:37,860
rolling. I'm not sure where the
airplane is. It would have

2426
02:17:37,860 --> 02:17:43,470
crashed landed somewhere I
ejected along the way. Just a

2427
02:17:43,470 --> 02:17:47,100
moment, sir. Yeah, what are we
good?

2428
02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:52,290
Adam Curry: All right. Part of
the fall

2429
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:54,930
Unknown: 2000 feet.

2430
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:57,780
Adam Curry: Wow, that's I have a
better recording than that. That

2431
02:17:57,780 --> 02:17:58,080
was

2432
02:17:58,110 --> 02:18:01,080
John C Dvorak: how hard did you
How far did you fall? Is your

2433
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:04,350
question? Yes. What does that
got to do with the price of

2434
02:18:04,350 --> 02:18:04,980
anything?

2435
02:18:05,039 --> 02:18:06,869
Adam Curry: Well, if you listen
to the whole call, the whole

2436
02:18:06,869 --> 02:18:09,299
thing is weird. as well.

2437
02:18:09,300 --> 02:18:10,950
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's
some thought that it was

2438
02:18:10,950 --> 02:18:13,800
actually a female pilot. And
this was just a scam.

2439
02:18:13,889 --> 02:18:18,089
Adam Curry: That might be but I
now have because I have the INS

2440
02:18:18,119 --> 02:18:24,599
from an F 35 pilot from the 30 F
35 pilots that this pilot flew

2441
02:18:24,599 --> 02:18:30,149
into who apparently was a very
was a experienced pilot flew

2442
02:18:30,149 --> 02:18:35,039
into bad weather had a total
display failure. And at that

2443
02:18:35,039 --> 02:18:39,689
point, you become very
disoriented. It's called the

2444
02:18:39,689 --> 02:18:42,179
liens I've had it happen to me
and if you don't have

2445
02:18:42,179 --> 02:18:46,019
instruments that are working,
which seems to every aircraft

2446
02:18:46,019 --> 02:18:48,839
that I've ever been in even the
modern ones if they have a glass

2447
02:18:48,839 --> 02:18:53,099
cockpit, they still have a small
gyro and an airspeed indicator

2448
02:18:53,099 --> 02:18:56,099
that is completely separate
which is a mechanical you don't

2449
02:18:56,099 --> 02:19:00,269
and it has its own battery for
lighting. And I can't get an

2450
02:19:00,269 --> 02:19:05,819
answer whether the F 35 has one
backup system with gyro and you

2451
02:19:05,819 --> 02:19:09,809
know for your attitude like
artificial horizon and your

2452
02:19:09,809 --> 02:19:12,929
airspeed indicator. If you don't
have that in these in these

2453
02:19:12,929 --> 02:19:16,169
planes yeah you're gonna you're
gonna punch out because you

2454
02:19:16,199 --> 02:19:18,749
don't know you think you'll be
upside down you may be upside

2455
02:19:18,749 --> 02:19:24,719
down when you think you're
flying straight so I don't I'm

2456
02:19:24,719 --> 02:19:28,469
not buying any of that I'm I
think this is a design flaw.

2457
02:19:29,489 --> 02:19:30,839
This thing is a turkey

2458
02:19:31,769 --> 02:19:32,309
John C Dvorak: because what

2459
02:19:32,310 --> 02:19:34,350
Adam Curry: everybody seems to
think everybody's what

2460
02:19:34,350 --> 02:19:35,250
everybody's saying.

2461
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:37,170
John C Dvorak: Send them to
Ukraine.

2462
02:19:37,559 --> 02:19:40,889
Adam Curry: There you go. So
let's take a look at what else

2463
02:19:40,889 --> 02:19:45,929
we had for the previous episode.
Less AI in fact, comic strip

2464
02:19:45,929 --> 02:19:49,019
blogger was apologizing no
agenda socialists I'm sorry,

2465
02:19:49,019 --> 02:19:53,639
I'll only do one AI from now on.
Then we had some actual pieces.

2466
02:19:54,509 --> 02:19:59,489
I wouldn't say that they were
all great. But they weren't AI

2467
02:19:59,489 --> 02:20:00,359
generated Did

2468
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:04,050
John C Dvorak: the Lincoln one I
liked I think was probably AI.

2469
02:20:04,650 --> 02:20:07,020
Adam Curry: Yes, that's why we
didn't use it.

2470
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:09,750
John C Dvorak: No, it's not why
Yeah, it is. I

2471
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:13,410
Adam Curry: said it's AI. I like
it and ISIS AI I didn't like it.

2472
02:20:16,410 --> 02:20:20,880
No, I think there was a SAG
AFTRA net. Things just weren't

2473
02:20:20,880 --> 02:20:24,210
quite hitting but you know,
sometimes it can be really

2474
02:20:24,210 --> 02:20:30,030
funny. I marginally liked Matt
was another Matt Boisvert is

2475
02:20:30,060 --> 02:20:35,310
good for $33 trillion, an IOU
but you know, and then funny

2476
02:20:35,310 --> 02:20:39,030
enough comics or Blogger had the
F 35 Witness screaming against

2477
02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:44,790
the goat I'm not quite sure that
that hit home we had a peach in

2478
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:47,670
a banana cord who did that one
punch in the podcast I don't

2479
02:20:47,670 --> 02:20:51,840
know then there's no there's no
Parker Polly there's no way

2480
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:55,860
we're going to put Fetterman on
on our album marks this is not

2481
02:20:55,860 --> 02:20:59,280
going to happen. How many? How
many times we have to say these

2482
02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:03,990
things. We're not going to put
ugly people on the front of our

2483
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:07,620
podcast art. No, like so we're
currently already

2484
02:21:07,620 --> 02:21:09,720
John C Dvorak: banned ourselves
and I should mention that

2485
02:21:09,720 --> 02:21:14,250
because coming up as a new
artist pet Rex who put us on the

2486
02:21:14,250 --> 02:21:16,410
elbow Martin there's no that's
not gonna happen that was

2487
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:19,260
banned. We're gonna have a
round. Jo 200.

2488
02:21:19,500 --> 02:21:21,900
Adam Curry: So we do
congratulate Matt Boisvert for

2489
02:21:23,700 --> 02:21:26,790
creating the art that we chose.
It was a beautiful piece really

2490
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:30,000
was nice piece. He was very
happy. It was artsy. It was

2491
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:32,580
artsy. Yes, it was Archie. And
everybody got it. Everybody who

2492
02:21:32,580 --> 02:21:35,820
saw that went out there got the
boys are talking about that,

2493
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:40,650
too. They got it like that. It
was interesting. No agenda, art

2494
02:21:40,650 --> 02:21:44,010
generator.com. You can see the
current standings of all the

2495
02:21:44,010 --> 02:21:46,530
artists how many times the art
has been chosen, and you can

2496
02:21:46,530 --> 02:21:48,240
upload your own, you can
participate or you could

2497
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:51,690
participate in real time by
refreshing it. While you're

2498
02:21:51,690 --> 02:21:53,730
while we're talking just because
this is what the artists are

2499
02:21:53,730 --> 02:21:56,670
doing the creating in real time,
or use one of those modern

2500
02:21:56,670 --> 02:21:59,730
podcast apps, you get to see a
lot more of them as they come by

2501
02:21:59,730 --> 02:22:04,350
in our chapter image art. Now on
to the treasure part, which is

2502
02:22:04,350 --> 02:22:08,160
the way we pay the bills, people
sending us treasure in return

2503
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:11,640
for the value we provide and
it's completely up to you.

2504
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:15,690
There's no There's no limits up
or down to what you whatever you

2505
02:22:15,690 --> 02:22:18,540
feel the show is worth to you.
Send that to us. Sometimes it's

2506
02:22:18,540 --> 02:22:22,530
just numerology. We'll get to
that with our Kevin McLaughlin

2507
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:28,050
donations but we start off with
Countess Kim from Hubbard,

2508
02:22:28,050 --> 02:22:31,080
John C Dvorak: Oregon, of the
neti fluffers

2509
02:22:31,260 --> 02:22:33,630
Adam Curry: of the nadi fluffers
let me open up her note here

2510
02:22:33,630 --> 02:22:36,600
because she said today she's a
duchess in the morning Adam and

2511
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:42,840
John. Jingles who? I hadn't
hadn't seen the note. Screw your

2512
02:22:42,840 --> 02:22:48,360
freedom is one of them. Okay. F
cancer Archer due to karma and

2513
02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:50,760
Arnold screw your freedom
enclosed a birthday gift for

2514
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:55,110
myself. This donation brings me
to Duchess May I now be known as

2515
02:22:55,260 --> 02:22:58,530
Duchess Kim, keeper of the
naughty fluffers and can I

2516
02:22:58,530 --> 02:23:02,730
please can I please get a
biscuit for my birthday? We'll

2517
02:23:02,730 --> 02:23:06,420
give you that. Right away. They
always give me a biscuit on my

2518
02:23:06,420 --> 02:23:09,570
birthday. I also wanted to
mention something about our

2519
02:23:09,570 --> 02:23:13,650
wonderful IRS Internal Revenue
Service. Besides outstanding

2520
02:23:13,650 --> 02:23:17,220
hold music. You were told that
they appreciate you being a

2521
02:23:17,220 --> 02:23:21,180
customer. I did not know there
were other options. Thank you so

2522
02:23:21,180 --> 02:23:24,690
much for all the YouTube do your
both are invaluable before I

2523
02:23:24,690 --> 02:23:28,170
found no agenda. I was living
under my bed with my tinfoil hat

2524
02:23:28,170 --> 02:23:32,040
on. Now. I can go out and public
tinfoil hat still firmly in

2525
02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:35,880
place and see all the loons
around me. Thank you for your

2526
02:23:35,880 --> 02:23:39,390
free speech. Duchess Kim Chem
keeper of the nutty fluffers

2527
02:23:39,390 --> 02:23:44,970
Hubbard Oregon $2,000 In a check
form, which we appreciate since

2528
02:23:44,970 --> 02:23:49,560
there's no PayPal fee. Thank you
very much, Kim and we will see

2529
02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:52,920
you we did tidal upgrade and
just a little bit thank you so

2530
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:58,320
much and let me give you you're
required and requested. Jingle

2531
02:23:58,320 --> 02:24:05,490
edge. Where are we? There we go.
Screw you freedom. And then she

2532
02:24:05,490 --> 02:24:07,800
needed the F cancer karma

2533
02:24:12,870 --> 02:24:16,770
Unknown: you've got karma

2534
02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:20,790
Adam Curry: that wasn't our two
d two was that was our two d

2535
02:24:20,790 --> 02:24:23,010
two. sounds almost like

2536
02:24:23,730 --> 02:24:28,650
John C Dvorak: three or $33.67
comes in from Matt Dubois who's

2537
02:24:28,650 --> 02:24:33,840
in Draper Utah long note in the
morning this is my final

2538
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:36,420
donation to get me a knighthood
as such are like my night name

2539
02:24:36,420 --> 02:24:40,470
to be served Mormon millennial.
Thanks for everything you guys

2540
02:24:40,470 --> 02:24:43,950
do. I have been listening since
before Trump got elected I'm

2541
02:24:43,950 --> 02:24:47,280
much saner for it. In fact, for
the last seven years I've been

2542
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:51,810
hearing Adams thoughts on s s
our eyes and always thought

2543
02:24:51,870 --> 02:24:56,310
Nope, I need them and they are
great. At least for my

2544
02:24:56,310 --> 02:25:03,480
situation. You as well as of
about two months ago, I'm off my

2545
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:08,220
SSRI and I feel like I've come
out of a fog. Without getting

2546
02:25:08,220 --> 02:25:11,730
into details life is much better
and I'm happier. I wanted to

2547
02:25:11,730 --> 02:25:15,150
share my experience so that
other listeners on the fence can

2548
02:25:15,150 --> 02:25:20,670
think about it. Please play the
first bit of weed don't talk

2549
02:25:20,670 --> 02:25:24,090
about Brandon and give me a
Trump's job karma for the

2550
02:25:24,090 --> 02:25:28,470
promotion I'm fighting for.
Lastly, on a Latter Day Saint as

2551
02:25:28,470 --> 02:25:33,150
a Latter Day Saint in Utah,
which is what they prefer being

2552
02:25:33,150 --> 02:25:36,480
called. So I'm surprised to use
the Mormon reference, which is

2553
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:41,190
not it's not cool anymore. Last
year is a Latter Day Saint in

2554
02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:45,030
Utah. I'd appreciate it if you
would bring some green jello and

2555
02:25:46,350 --> 02:25:51,720
what it's funny is what you eat
when you're a Mormon, green

2556
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:56,370
jello and cherry coke to the
round table. Actually, a lot of

2557
02:25:56,370 --> 02:26:00,450
real Mormons don't ever have a
coke because it has caffeine in

2558
02:26:00,450 --> 02:26:03,930
it. So there you go, I guess. I
guess that's just the one time

2559
02:26:03,930 --> 02:26:08,460
for the cherry coke. A ginger
ginger ale was suffice for the

2560
02:26:08,460 --> 02:26:13,710
future round. Okay, he's
referencing the caffeine. PS

2561
02:26:13,710 --> 02:26:17,010
easily the funniest thing I've
ever experienced is when whilst

2562
02:26:17,010 --> 02:26:21,720
role playing. Adam told John to
stay safe and John responded, go

2563
02:26:21,720 --> 02:26:27,300
f yourself. I had to pull over.
I was laughing so hard.

2564
02:26:28,080 --> 02:26:31,800
Adam Curry: That was a good one.
I think that maybe there was

2565
02:26:31,800 --> 02:26:35,670
another one. A couple of those.
You had one today your genius

2566
02:26:35,790 --> 02:26:44,340
play a little bit of what he
wanted to hear. Talk about jobs,

2567
02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:46,410
jobs, jobs.

2568
02:26:53,820 --> 02:26:54,450
Unknown: Karma

2569
02:26:56,430 --> 02:27:01,110
John C Dvorak: attributed to the
people eat lime jello with fruit

2570
02:27:01,110 --> 02:27:04,170
cocktail mixed into it. There
you go. There's your dessert.

2571
02:27:04,740 --> 02:27:09,330
Adam Curry: Thomas Ballmer is in
Iowa City, Iowa 333 dot 49. In

2572
02:27:09,330 --> 02:27:11,460
the morning, John and Adam, the
best podcast in the universe has

2573
02:27:11,460 --> 02:27:14,520
been killing it lately. Despite
the well documented lack of

2574
02:27:14,520 --> 02:27:17,490
donations. Please add my son
Nolan to the belated birthday

2575
02:27:17,490 --> 02:27:22,260
list. September 12. He was 17th
Also I'll hit 49 on the 25th of

2576
02:27:22,260 --> 02:27:24,690
this month thanks for all you do
that's tomorrow. You got it.

2577
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:25,920
Thomas you're on it.

2578
02:27:27,150 --> 02:27:31,290
John C Dvorak: Sir See be in
Harris Minnesota. Three Three

2579
02:27:32,040 --> 02:27:35,490
IgM Genesis is a switcheroo
those donations for the value

2580
02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:39,180
for value from the goat karma
products local 33 meet up sir

2581
02:27:39,180 --> 02:27:43,080
EagleEye won the raffle for the
executive producer ship please

2582
02:27:43,080 --> 02:27:47,760
credit it to him. A great day
was had by all 70 threes Katie's

2583
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:52,440
zero vi X sir CB the Baronet of
the builders.

2584
02:27:52,530 --> 02:27:55,590
Adam Curry: I think it's V JX.
Little hard to see on the font.

2585
02:27:55,590 --> 02:27:58,290
Oh, I'm sorry, Scott, the
welders in Brooklyn, New York

2586
02:27:58,290 --> 02:28:01,080
333 33. Please accept this
modest donation for the

2587
02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:03,540
incredible service you guys
provide. My father has been in

2588
02:28:03,540 --> 02:28:07,530
the hospital for the past six
weeks dealing with a D Cubitus.

2589
02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:11,640
ulcer. Whatever it is, doesn't
sound good. You know what this

2590
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:16,290
is to Cubitus de Cubitus que
bitis DQ bitis doesn't sound as

2591
02:28:16,290 --> 02:28:18,480
great. Yes, not only that, but
it's one of the worst of

2592
02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:22,920
hospitals ever seen. He has many
months to go after five

2593
02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:26,370
surgeries requesting prayers.
You got it. Healing thoughts and

2594
02:28:26,370 --> 02:28:29,310
good vibrations from everyone
and get my nation for my pops.

2595
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:33,090
Along with some health and goat
karma. Also, today is my

2596
02:28:33,090 --> 02:28:36,720
birthday. My good friend, our
hero always said you are

2597
02:28:36,720 --> 02:28:42,810
responsible for your own orgasm.
What a great friend. So give me

2598
02:28:44,010 --> 02:28:47,040
a biscuit for the birthday. Oh,
he wants a whole load on top of

2599
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:51,780
it. Okay, do we have a whole
load? Got a whole load for you.

2600
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:54,870
And we'll give you that? Good
Karma. They always give me a

2601
02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:56,400
biscuit on my birthday. I'm

2602
02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:57,750
Unknown: gonna give you the
whole load.

2603
02:28:59,730 --> 02:29:00,540
You've got

2604
02:29:05,790 --> 02:29:07,980
John C Dvorak: your Isshin
Hudson, Wisconsin. I have no

2605
02:29:07,980 --> 02:29:10,950
note from him. I can't find a
note from him. 333 Dots three

2606
02:29:10,950 --> 02:29:12,330
three. I'm going to give him a
double karma.

2607
02:29:14,250 --> 02:29:17,790
Unknown: You've got karma.

2608
02:29:19,980 --> 02:29:23,610
Adam Curry: Will gherkin checks
in from Centennial Colorado 333.

2609
02:29:23,610 --> 02:29:27,330
Where was this crowd fun shout
out on no agenda for karma opoli

2610
02:29:27,330 --> 02:29:30,420
from Sir Mike of axehead
watchmakers, did I miss this

2611
02:29:30,420 --> 02:29:33,750
somewhere? I listened to every
donation segment unless I'm

2612
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:36,720
three plus episodes behind I
can't imagine we'd have trouble

2613
02:29:36,720 --> 02:29:41,460
coming up with $20,000 Okay,
first of all, I answered him

2614
02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:44,970
this note and I sent him the
link from bing.io we most

2615
02:29:44,970 --> 02:29:49,560
definitely discussed Yes, we
talked about it. So I questioned

2616
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:50,520
his sincerity if

2617
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:53,370
John C Dvorak: you got one and I
didn't and it turned out you had

2618
02:29:53,370 --> 02:29:54,210
to prototype

2619
02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:58,950
Adam Curry: yes. He said I just
send another 333 is promised

2620
02:29:58,950 --> 02:30:01,230
sorry for the delay things been
crazy. That brings me to

2621
02:30:01,230 --> 02:30:03,480
knighthood, but I'll send
accounting and title claims

2622
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:06,510
sometime in the future. Like I
said things are crazy. had to

2623
02:30:06,510 --> 02:30:09,390
make some time to pay you and
John, we appreciate it. We'll

2624
02:30:09,390 --> 02:30:12,210
and with things being so crazy
understand why you might have

2625
02:30:12,210 --> 02:30:14,820
missed the donation segment.
It's Okay brother. Thank you so

2626
02:30:14,820 --> 02:30:15,300
much.

2627
02:30:16,619 --> 02:30:19,709
John C Dvorak: The Indie no
agenda tribal meetup in

2628
02:30:19,709 --> 02:30:25,529
Greenwood, Indiana 917 ending in
a tribal meetup this raffle

2629
02:30:25,529 --> 02:30:30,839
switcheroo donation on behalf of
Dame Swanee in the morning from

2630
02:30:30,839 --> 02:30:35,189
Dame Swanee and please give me
some goat karma. Hope to see you

2631
02:30:35,189 --> 02:30:39,989
in Indy at one of our no agenda
meetups which he promised to go

2632
02:30:39,989 --> 02:30:40,139
to.

2633
02:30:40,829 --> 02:30:43,769
Unknown: You've got karma

2634
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:47,790
Adam Curry: I hate to do this to
you. But I think you need to do

2635
02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:49,200
this next one because it's our
last

2636
02:30:49,470 --> 02:30:51,720
John C Dvorak: line DeLeeuw
pagkain.

2637
02:30:51,810 --> 02:30:52,710
Unknown: There it is.

2638
02:30:55,380 --> 02:30:59,670
John C Dvorak: Late Lakewood
Colorado. Jobs common for a

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resume that gets results go to
Image makers inc.com For all

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your executive resume and job
search needs. That's image

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makers Inc with a k.com or just
find Linda IUPAC. And under the

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02:31:09,930 --> 02:31:14,970
show's producer list, long live
no agenda, jobs, jobs,

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02:31:14,970 --> 02:31:15,960
Unknown: jobs, jobs,

2644
02:31:17,850 --> 02:31:19,800
jobs, karma.

2645
02:31:19,860 --> 02:31:22,200
Adam Curry: And this concludes
our executive and Associate

2646
02:31:22,200 --> 02:31:24,630
Executive Producers not a long
list today. We appreciate it

2647
02:31:24,630 --> 02:31:28,560
though. Thank you. These credits
are real. They are also forever

2648
02:31:28,560 --> 02:31:32,010
they last for as long as you
live and beyond. That, of course

2649
02:31:32,010 --> 02:31:35,460
depends on where you put them.
So we recommend IMDb where

2650
02:31:35,460 --> 02:31:38,310
you'll see we have 800 producers
who have claimed their

2651
02:31:38,460 --> 02:31:41,160
production credits for different
episodes of the show along with

2652
02:31:41,160 --> 02:31:44,580
some really, really interesting
Hollywood big wigs, put it in

2653
02:31:44,580 --> 02:31:48,810
your LinkedIn profile, put it on
your resume. If anyone ever

2654
02:31:48,810 --> 02:31:52,050
questions you will be more than
happy to vouch for you. And

2655
02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:54,390
thank you very much for being
Executive Associate Executive

2656
02:31:54,390 --> 02:31:57,930
producers of episode 1593.

2657
02:31:58,680 --> 02:32:03,060
Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out we get people in the

2658
02:32:03,060 --> 02:32:03,360
mouth

2659
02:32:16,020 --> 02:32:19,440
Adam Curry: and John's going to
take us through to the 50s and

2660
02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:22,440
we'll get to our nice things our
title changes and of course

2661
02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:24,360
meetup reports we got quite a
few today.

2662
02:32:24,900 --> 02:32:26,880
John C Dvorak: Sure loud pipe
starts us off in Charlotte,

2663
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:33,210
North Carolina $197.70 These are
a lot of job requests job karma,

2664
02:32:33,300 --> 02:32:37,110
which that at the end. Paul
Daniels in Fort grayish coal

2665
02:32:37,110 --> 02:32:40,080
grad there's a way of
pronouncing this. The gravi are

2666
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:47,520
at I O T Township Michigan needs
a de douching you've been de

2667
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:54,660
deuced became in with 150 also
$110 from Jamie falacci Oh and

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02:32:54,660 --> 02:33:00,180
Clift their plot shows plus CEOs
in Clifton, Virginia 110 in

2669
02:33:00,180 --> 02:33:08,430
field 100, Sir lineman in an
Illinois 100. He's got a bunch

2670
02:33:08,430 --> 02:33:13,530
of 30 threes coming at him.
Brady in Lee's Summit, Missouri

2671
02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:24,840
9933 Jason maror and Vancouver
Washington 808 Kevin McLaughlin,

2672
02:33:25,440 --> 02:33:29,280
the Archduke of Luna lover of
American boobs comes here with

2673
02:33:29,310 --> 02:33:38,640
808 to promote breast vine
melons. Sir Boober in Nan

2674
02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:44,430
Nevada, Iowa 808 pisser Boober.
This is his quarterly boob

2675
02:33:44,430 --> 02:33:48,810
donation. Thank you, Gary Blatt
and Wayne, Pennsylvania 7777.

2676
02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:58,740
Thomas Ekman in San Francisco,
California 68. Kevin McLaughlin,

2677
02:33:58,770 --> 02:34:01,740
again in Concord, North
Carolina, the Archduke of Luna

2678
02:34:02,100 --> 02:34:08,040
Pino mill. I've had these melons
Pepino melon. This is Pineo 606

2679
02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:14,970
s small boobs. David Jarman in
North, Tara Mara, in Australia,

2680
02:34:15,300 --> 02:34:23,820
New South Wales. Ed Schwartzman
in South Miami, Florida. 5784

2681
02:34:23,820 --> 02:34:29,280
Nisa de douching. You've been de
deuced Scott Barrett and for

2682
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:35,310
Johnson, Louisiana 5510 Herbert
Garrett 55 Kansas double nickels

2683
02:34:35,310 --> 02:34:39,270
on the dime from Raleigh, North
Carolina Surprise, surprise, in

2684
02:34:39,270 --> 02:34:44,700
Yukon, Oklahoma 5444. Forrest
Martin 5005. And now we have the

2685
02:34:44,700 --> 02:34:48,150
$50 donors. I'm just gonna do
the names and locations run

2686
02:34:48,150 --> 02:34:50,280
through starting with Sir
Patrick may come in New York

2687
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:55,410
City, Robert Han in Poway cat,
California, or Poway. Poway. It

2688
02:34:55,410 --> 02:34:59,460
is pretty sure Poway Tatiana
Prince in Hollywood, Florida

2689
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,190
Michael Sikora in New Richmond,
Wisconsin, Donald lock in

2690
02:35:05,190 --> 02:35:08,700
Pottsville, Pennsylvania.
Michael Romano in Sebastopol,

2691
02:35:08,700 --> 02:35:13,620
California. Greg Huff, in
Austin, Texas, gaucho

2692
02:35:13,620 --> 02:35:19,590
woodworking in Redondo Beach.
Gaucho woodworking. By the way,

2693
02:35:19,590 --> 02:35:22,440
have a nice sight. Kate, I
should get some stuff from them

2694
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:25,980
Kate Haskell in San Rafael
California. Alexa Delgado in

2695
02:35:25,980 --> 02:35:31,680
Aptos. California. Alex David
Perdue in Snow Hill, North

2696
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:37,980
Carolina Samuel Kennedy in North
Riverside, Illinois, Brian

2697
02:35:37,980 --> 02:35:42,030
humble in Wimberley, Texas.
Charles Boyd in San Marcos,

2698
02:35:42,030 --> 02:35:46,290
Texas. Andrew Butterfield in
Bettendorf, Iowa unloaded 50s

2699
02:35:46,290 --> 02:35:52,950
Today, Diego Lopez crane in
Ithaca, New York. Herbert J.

2700
02:35:52,980 --> 02:35:59,070
ratter. In New York City, West
Stewart in Mesa, Arizona

2701
02:35:59,100 --> 02:36:02,130
birthday coming up for somebody
in the Steven crummy family in

2702
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:07,650
El Cajon. And Michael stadium,
Parts Unknown and last on the

2703
02:36:07,650 --> 02:36:10,890
list is Tracy Sullivan in Tinley
Park, Illinois. I want to thank

2704
02:36:10,890 --> 02:36:16,320
these people for making show
1593 We're getting close to 1600

2705
02:36:17,070 --> 02:36:18,300
Happy reality.

2706
02:36:18,360 --> 02:36:21,930
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you to
these producers, our executive

2707
02:36:21,930 --> 02:36:24,660
and Associate Executive
producers. We got our nights

2708
02:36:24,660 --> 02:36:30,900
note from James Jackson, who
sent he became an instant night

2709
02:36:31,020 --> 02:36:33,480
on the last show he sent we got
his note so it'd be knighted

2710
02:36:33,480 --> 02:36:40,920
today. And he humbly requested
dT d deuced. And from this day

2711
02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:43,830
forward he shall be known as Sir
James of the rolling hills. God

2712
02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:46,980
bless jingle requests big baller
PS go cowboys.

2713
02:36:48,090 --> 02:36:51,780
Unknown: Sakala 20 is Blaze only
Impala

2714
02:36:51,810 --> 02:36:54,330
Adam Curry: and as always,
thanks everyone under 50

2715
02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:58,650
Typically for reasons of
anonymity 4999 Is is a big one

2716
02:36:58,650 --> 02:37:02,190
that we see when people are
doing that anonymously but also

2717
02:37:02,190 --> 02:37:05,190
people who are on our many
sustaining donations you can

2718
02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:09,840
make one up yourself we ever
1111 1212 30 threes all kinds of

2719
02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:12,750
groovy ones which you can find
at our donation website. Please

2720
02:37:12,750 --> 02:37:16,410
go there and support the show
with some value in return.

2721
02:37:16,410 --> 02:37:19,860
for.org/n A.

2722
02:37:27,210 --> 02:37:30,030
Thomas Ballmer wishes his son
Nolan that happy belated

2723
02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:34,770
birthday was on the 12th Surfing
of the BMWs and Bulldogs Happy

2724
02:37:34,770 --> 02:37:38,250
Birthday to his smokin hot wife,
Jennifer Roediger and she turned

2725
02:37:38,250 --> 02:37:43,020
41 Once you turn 41 Today,
Thomas Ballmer turns 49 Tomorrow

2726
02:37:43,020 --> 02:37:46,590
Steven Crummer celebrates on
October 2, don't just Kim is

2727
02:37:46,590 --> 02:37:49,680
celebrating as his Scott the
welder and belated Happy

2728
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:52,710
birthday to my sister in law
Tony Dockery and my mother in

2729
02:37:52,710 --> 02:37:55,950
law Pat Allen nice and happy
birthday from everybody here at

2730
02:37:55,950 --> 02:38:02,190
the best podcast in the
universe. Change I

2731
02:38:07,410 --> 02:38:10,590
don't want to be induced.
There's never douchebaggery when

2732
02:38:10,590 --> 02:38:13,380
it comes to a title change as
you heard earlier, Countess Kim

2733
02:38:13,380 --> 02:38:17,400
came in big today and really
supported the show. And she now

2734
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:20,670
becomes well she becomes Duchess
Chem keeper of the nutty

2735
02:38:20,670 --> 02:38:23,310
fluffers. And thank you so much
Duchess can we appreciate that

2736
02:38:23,310 --> 02:38:25,920
and we shall for now,
forevermore until you change

2737
02:38:25,920 --> 02:38:30,510
that. call you by your official
title Duchess Kim. Two nice

2738
02:38:30,510 --> 02:38:34,020
things to go of course James and
Matt so we got a sword here

2739
02:38:34,050 --> 02:38:35,550
which I'd like this sword. This

2740
02:38:35,550 --> 02:38:36,990
John C Dvorak: is a way go. Oh,
that's

2741
02:38:36,990 --> 02:38:39,810
Adam Curry: the Bejeweled heft.
Oh, nice. I like that a lot.

2742
02:38:41,790 --> 02:38:45,960
Careful now. Don't want that
jewel to pop out. James Jackson,

2743
02:38:45,960 --> 02:38:49,440
Matt DuBois. off both of you go
on the podium. Both of you have

2744
02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:52,050
become knight to the nogen
roundtable today thanks to your

2745
02:38:52,050 --> 02:38:54,990
support of the show in the
amount of $1,000 more and I'm

2746
02:38:54,990 --> 02:38:59,220
very proud to pronounce Kate the
s Sir James of the rolling hills

2747
02:38:59,430 --> 02:39:02,880
and Sir Mormon millennial
gentlemen for you. We've got

2748
02:39:02,880 --> 02:39:05,700
hookers and blow red boys and
Chardonnay of course green jello

2749
02:39:05,700 --> 02:39:09,990
and cherry coke heartless and
how tall pepperoni rolls and

2750
02:39:09,990 --> 02:39:13,770
pale ales cow girls and coffin
varnish Gaston sock sock a we've

2751
02:39:13,770 --> 02:39:15,990
got beroukhim della Boggess and
bourbon sparkling cider and

2752
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:19,230
escorts. We have breast milk and
Pavlov gingerale and Germans big

2753
02:39:19,230 --> 02:39:23,610
favorite. And of course as
always the mutton and Mead. And

2754
02:39:23,610 --> 02:39:28,680
while you're sampling the green
jello and cherry coke, go to no

2755
02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:31,530
agenda rings.com Take a look at
those handsome night and Dame

2756
02:39:31,530 --> 02:39:35,730
rings only you to get them
today. So use the handy sizing

2757
02:39:35,730 --> 02:39:39,000
guide to send us to that to us
along with your address. And of

2758
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:42,270
course that will come complete
with wax to seal your important

2759
02:39:42,270 --> 02:39:45,870
correspondence. It is after all
a signet ring and an official

2760
02:39:46,050 --> 02:39:49,050
certificate of authenticity. No
one

2761
02:39:56,850 --> 02:40:00,600
now you'll recall we had a lot
of meetups last is Thursday on

2762
02:40:00,600 --> 02:40:03,810
the 21st. So I expected to have
quite a number of meet up

2763
02:40:03,810 --> 02:40:07,440
reports which we have. However
unless you have an enormous

2764
02:40:07,440 --> 02:40:10,770
amount of people like Indiana,
there's no reason your meet up

2765
02:40:10,770 --> 02:40:16,740
reports have to be over a minute
long produce with funky stuff. I

2766
02:40:16,740 --> 02:40:19,890
don't have time to edit all this
stuff. So keep it within reason,

2767
02:40:19,890 --> 02:40:22,350
folks, please Arlington,
Virginia. Let's start with them.

2768
02:40:22,500 --> 02:40:26,070
Unknown: Hey, this is DC girl at
the location of the first

2769
02:40:26,100 --> 02:40:30,030
Arlington meetup that took place
five years ago. Today we are

2770
02:40:30,030 --> 02:40:34,530
celebrating our special guests
sure such sir Shaun of Slovakia

2771
02:40:34,530 --> 02:40:37,290
and is smoking hot wife Bara in
the morning

2772
02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:42,000
and Slovakia we don't even know
if it's a real country. It could

2773
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:45,930
be on the order of Narnia or
Brigadoon or what conda for all

2774
02:40:45,930 --> 02:40:49,470
I know I have not seen evidence
any evidence that it exists this

2775
02:40:49,470 --> 02:40:49,590
is

2776
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:50,220
rounding

2777
02:40:51,150 --> 02:40:55,110
this is Jacob everybody glad to
be here my second meet up he's

2778
02:40:55,110 --> 02:40:55,590
Bitcoin

2779
02:40:56,970 --> 02:41:01,500
and this is Sir William a West
pencil tucky and Sir Sean shows

2780
02:41:01,500 --> 02:41:06,360
up in DC the same time as the
Lenski coincidence,

2781
02:41:06,690 --> 02:41:11,520
I think I think not. This
assertion of Slovakia with his

2782
02:41:11,520 --> 02:41:15,960
smokin hot wife Sir, not a dame
Barra enjoying a hell of a meet

2783
02:41:15,960 --> 02:41:19,890
up and thanks to DC girl and
Roger for setting this up. What

2784
02:41:19,890 --> 02:41:20,670
a great time.

2785
02:41:21,330 --> 02:41:22,470
SCHEFFER. Springfield.

2786
02:41:22,500 --> 02:41:28,530
Me too is back baby. Hey there,
this is Trini murti. Some people

2787
02:41:28,530 --> 02:41:31,530
call me Baltimore. My name is
Trini

2788
02:41:31,560 --> 02:41:32,940
Ajay CD. Remember that?

2789
02:41:34,320 --> 02:41:37,890
His name is Trini. But my name
is Mike White. Comanche from

2790
02:41:37,890 --> 02:41:42,120
Arlington has been great meeting
everybody. I also promised CSP

2791
02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:44,730
that I would I would shout him
out as one of my favorite people

2792
02:41:44,730 --> 02:41:51,240
on the internet CSB on Mastodon
and Twitter or CSB dot lol

2793
02:41:51,270 --> 02:41:57,480
follow me hailing from
Alexandria I promised I would

2794
02:42:00,390 --> 02:42:02,370
Adam Curry: write the spokes in
Arlington thank you for your

2795
02:42:02,370 --> 02:42:03,690
Meetup report Dix, Bert

2796
02:42:08,430 --> 02:42:12,780
Unknown: right it's sir CV and
ser de expert here in Wyoming

2797
02:42:12,780 --> 02:42:17,850
Minnesota at the cornerstone pub
and prime with the goat karma

2798
02:42:17,850 --> 02:42:22,800
producers local 33 meet up. The
return of service experts say

2799
02:42:22,800 --> 02:42:23,550
predict fruit.

2800
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:28,350
Adam John can't tell you how
much fun I had. And now this

2801
02:42:28,350 --> 02:42:32,550
meetup has a spooky bone put up
Adam John, this is Dame god of

2802
02:42:32,550 --> 02:42:36,390
the 10 key in the morning. In
the morning. This is Peter with

2803
02:42:36,390 --> 02:42:38,970
Dame God the 1010 key going for
the hattrick

2804
02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:43,050
circuitous route of the scooter
clubs. I want the dude scream

2805
02:42:43,050 --> 02:42:46,200
karma. Alrighty, I'm Adam and
John Cerignola here providing

2806
02:42:46,200 --> 02:42:49,050
feed forward to the millennials
in the group Anonymous Jamie

2807
02:42:49,050 --> 02:42:52,200
here. Great meet up thanks
gents. i This is

2808
02:42:52,200 --> 02:42:56,640
Katie M sir. seavees former
sugar mama now I'm just the

2809
02:42:56,640 --> 02:43:01,170
cabana girl. Hey Jen. Adam. It's
putting this is my first meetup

2810
02:43:01,170 --> 02:43:04,800
is good time. Wrap it up, John.
All right. That's it from the

2811
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:08,580
cornerstone pub and prime and
Wyoming Minnesota. Come on next

2812
02:43:08,580 --> 02:43:13,110
time. Watch the meetups website
and we'll get her done. Have a

2813
02:43:13,110 --> 02:43:15,960
good night. In the morning. Yes,

2814
02:43:15,960 --> 02:43:19,140
Adam Curry: thank you very much.
And we go get your callsign Oh,

2815
02:43:19,140 --> 02:43:22,080
yes, kilo five Alpha. Charlie,
Charlie, thank you very much.

2816
02:43:22,140 --> 02:43:25,410
And we go to Los Angeles for Leo
Bravo flight of the

2817
02:43:26,250 --> 02:43:29,910
Unknown: it's Leo Bravo meet up
number 44. Folks have something

2818
02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:38,070
to say. Here we go. COVID in the
morning. Happy Birthday Jesse.

2819
02:43:39,390 --> 02:43:41,670
In the morning. This is Jesse
half jacked.

2820
02:43:42,960 --> 02:43:44,310
In the morning. This is Eric.

2821
02:43:45,540 --> 02:43:46,950
Sir medic. Mike in the morning.

2822
02:43:48,300 --> 02:43:49,080
In the morning.

2823
02:43:50,250 --> 02:43:55,680
We're almost out of blow but
it's still party equinox in the

2824
02:43:55,680 --> 02:43:55,950
morning.

2825
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:06,210
Adam Curry: They are very rowdy
over there in Los Angeles. Now

2826
02:44:06,210 --> 02:44:08,670
to Rosarito, Mexico. This

2827
02:44:08,670 --> 02:44:12,810
Unknown: is Brian of London, and
I'm at the Rosarito meetup in

2828
02:44:12,810 --> 02:44:17,100
Mexico, and people came here
from Jesse.

2829
02:44:17,820 --> 02:44:21,690
Hello, this is Jesse. I'm in
Rosarito with Brian of London,

2830
02:44:22,260 --> 02:44:25,170
having the time of our lives in
the morning, gentlemen,

2831
02:44:26,430 --> 02:44:31,950
in the morning, this is stalkers
from pipe fest, Freedom meetup,

2832
02:44:31,950 --> 02:44:32,100
we

2833
02:44:32,100 --> 02:44:35,400
all know agenda lovers here.
Come on down. We're having a

2834
02:44:35,400 --> 02:44:37,830
great time. It looks at the
freedom lovers. There's others

2835
02:44:37,830 --> 02:44:39,780
out there all the best no
agenda. We love you.

2836
02:44:40,410 --> 02:44:42,540
Adam Curry: We love you too.
Thank you very much sir Brian of

2837
02:44:42,540 --> 02:44:43,770
London, South Dakota.

2838
02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:49,140
Unknown: In the morning, this is
Dr. I at the boots on the ground

2839
02:44:49,140 --> 02:44:53,670
meetup in San Diego at the
meadery Hari Krishna

2840
02:44:54,810 --> 02:45:00,660
This is damn moment AI or not AI
you decide in the morning David

2841
02:45:00,660 --> 02:45:02,730
Kelly of the crushed grapes

2842
02:45:02,910 --> 02:45:05,310
This is Sir Matthew black men of
the ice giants who needs the

2843
02:45:05,310 --> 02:45:08,220
hair of the dog when you can
drink mead called the jackal a

2844
02:45:08,220 --> 02:45:12,180
this is Sir my guides em guys
loving it here with our San

2845
02:45:12,180 --> 02:45:16,080
Diego no agenda fans in the
morning this is Sir cam in the

2846
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:20,610
morning this is halfway third.
Vic definitely not a spook

2847
02:45:20,670 --> 02:45:22,050
is my concerns he?

2848
02:45:22,890 --> 02:45:25,200
Definitely honestly but I think
I've seen a guy or two around

2849
02:45:25,200 --> 02:45:26,460
here that might glow in the
dark.

2850
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:30,990
Adam Curry: And our final one
comes from Sonoma Wine Oh

2851
02:45:30,990 --> 02:45:31,740
country.

2852
02:45:32,460 --> 02:45:35,850
Unknown: In the morning, Adam
and John this is Sir

2853
02:45:35,850 --> 02:45:39,180
recalcitrant crazy Steve the
second that Sonoma wine country

2854
02:45:39,180 --> 02:45:43,410
meetup 2.0. John, keep bumping
that microphone. I like it.

2855
02:45:44,730 --> 02:45:46,620
Suresh Meister here asking

2856
02:45:46,620 --> 02:45:47,250
everyone.

2857
02:45:47,340 --> 02:45:48,420
Are we having fun?

2858
02:45:48,810 --> 02:45:51,600
That's a good question.

2859
02:45:52,320 --> 02:45:53,040
Adam Curry: It's not a great
one.

2860
02:45:54,510 --> 02:46:00,000
Unknown: Sir Casey, here at the
meet up here in Sonoma County.

2861
02:46:00,330 --> 02:46:01,920
Let's have fun, everybody.

2862
02:46:02,850 --> 02:46:07,800
All right, Linda from the Shire
of Sebastopol. Special thanks to

2863
02:46:07,830 --> 02:46:11,970
our sir Councilman Steve and
always thanks to John and Adam,

2864
02:46:11,970 --> 02:46:20,340
who are the OG pod masters. In a
world full of weird pod casts,

2865
02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:22,290
okay. Sonoma County.

2866
02:46:22,439 --> 02:46:28,439
Adam Curry: Love. Love. Love
this lens. Max first meet up in

2867
02:46:28,439 --> 02:46:32,489
the morning. Tighten it up.
People tighten it up, please. I

2868
02:46:32,489 --> 02:46:35,849
had an idea. I don't know what
to say. Tighten it up.

2869
02:46:36,990 --> 02:46:39,480
Unknown: Sir Preston calling
Casey up for Stolen Valor. He's

2870
02:46:39,480 --> 02:46:42,630
not a knight. Thanks, Steve, for
making this happen.

2871
02:46:44,040 --> 02:46:46,650
We love you guys in the morning.

2872
02:46:48,540 --> 02:46:50,850
Adam Curry: There you go
wrapping it up. And thanks to

2873
02:46:50,850 --> 02:46:54,300
Sir SCOBY for his written report
about the 33rd annual nap for

2874
02:46:54,300 --> 02:46:57,570
humanity meet up on the 17th was
a great success five and

2875
02:46:57,570 --> 02:47:00,870
attendance sort of psychopath
who hosted the golf outing.

2876
02:47:00,870 --> 02:47:06,060
Sirloin super freak of the cat
cut, cut Arwa Weaver with

2877
02:47:06,510 --> 02:47:10,950
Joshua, his smokin hot
girlfriend, Sierra Sierra. And

2878
02:47:10,950 --> 02:47:13,560
there was much laughter there
you go now. Okay, thank you so

2879
02:47:13,560 --> 02:47:17,400
much. And thank you all for
sending in your reports. And you

2880
02:47:17,400 --> 02:47:21,360
can hear that there's something
going on. There is a revival of

2881
02:47:21,360 --> 02:47:24,120
sorts, people are getting
together, hanging out, doing

2882
02:47:24,120 --> 02:47:27,570
things that we all got
traumatized about doing during

2883
02:47:27,570 --> 02:47:31,590
COVID and we all have some form
of trauma, but this is what you

2884
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:34,830
need to get back in the game.
And no one else is doing this

2885
02:47:34,830 --> 02:47:38,430
certainly not for a podcast but
if you do you'll find that that

2886
02:47:38,430 --> 02:47:42,060
connection brings you protection
go to no agenda meet ups.com You

2887
02:47:42,060 --> 02:47:45,660
will not regret it. Find one
near you. If you can't start one

2888
02:47:45,660 --> 02:47:47,850
yourself. It's really easy.

2889
02:47:48,870 --> 02:47:57,720
Unknown: Sometimes you go hang
out with Dyson days. You won't

2890
02:47:57,720 --> 02:48:07,980
be triggered. You wouldn't be
feels the same. Is like a bar.

2891
02:48:09,300 --> 02:48:15,030
Adam Curry: Always like a party.
Oh, man. Such a good good

2892
02:48:15,030 --> 02:48:18,810
groups. We love that. We're
making difference in people's

2893
02:48:18,810 --> 02:48:25,860
lives. You keel over you still
there? Ah. I suppose I got two

2894
02:48:25,860 --> 02:48:31,200
here we go. I don't think you
could hear what they said there.

2895
02:48:31,890 --> 02:48:37,290
No, no. How about this one?
Science. I kind of like that.

2896
02:48:37,290 --> 02:48:41,520
Ah, I thought that was kind of
cute. Okay, um, tu tu,

2897
02:48:42,000 --> 02:48:45,390
John C Dvorak: tu tu. All right,
but you gotta try. Wow. 10 Wow.

2898
02:48:45,420 --> 02:48:50,700
Adam Curry: So yeah, something
else. Oh, what happened to the

2899
02:48:50,700 --> 02:48:51,510
AMA? This one.

2900
02:48:51,870 --> 02:48:52,950
Unknown: Do something.

2901
02:48:53,010 --> 02:48:56,700
Adam Curry: There you go do
something. I'll take it's a good

2902
02:48:56,700 --> 02:49:00,450
one. It sounds good. I like I
like to do something top notch.

2903
02:49:01,140 --> 02:49:04,620
John C Dvorak: You know that is
Biden. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

2904
02:49:05,340 --> 02:49:08,580
Adam Curry: I wanted to play a
quick couple of clips here

2905
02:49:08,580 --> 02:49:12,990
because this showed up on
American Public Media's

2906
02:49:12,990 --> 02:49:17,490
marketplace. Which is isn't an
NPR program.

2907
02:49:19,320 --> 02:49:20,460
John C Dvorak: One of them.
Yeah, I

2908
02:49:20,460 --> 02:49:23,100
Adam Curry: think it airs on
NPR. We should

2909
02:49:23,100 --> 02:49:25,140
John C Dvorak: play the it's one
of the public. Yeah.

2910
02:49:26,850 --> 02:49:30,930
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR

2911
02:49:31,950 --> 02:49:33,030
or PBS.

2912
02:49:33,060 --> 02:49:36,960
Adam Curry: And this is a very I
thought a very important part

2913
02:49:36,960 --> 02:49:46,380
and clip because it It foretells
the future of AI and how AI is

2914
02:49:46,380 --> 02:49:53,700
going to fail. And have you
heard of model collapse? No,

2915
02:49:54,120 --> 02:49:55,380
model collapse

2916
02:49:55,440 --> 02:49:58,110
Unknown: is this. The problem
with AI output right now is that

2917
02:49:58,110 --> 02:50:01,260
it's really good but it's
something I'm just a little off

2918
02:50:01,260 --> 02:50:03,810
like you're talking to chuck
GPT. And it's, it's like it's

2919
02:50:03,930 --> 02:50:09,510
99% there, but it's 1%. Inhuman
in a kind of a weird way. And so

2920
02:50:09,540 --> 02:50:14,130
what Mala claps is, is those
little inhuman things getting

2921
02:50:14,130 --> 02:50:17,130
compounded and rolled up, right?
Because the AI is being trained

2922
02:50:17,130 --> 02:50:19,980
on a previous one. So it's kind
of learning that weirdness, and

2923
02:50:19,980 --> 02:50:21,960
then it starts turning into a
little snowball.

2924
02:50:22,020 --> 02:50:25,620
Yeah, it starts to get really
bad. Right, right. Yeah.

2925
02:50:25,740 --> 02:50:28,410
I mean, like, it's like, if you
do it over several generations,

2926
02:50:28,410 --> 02:50:30,960
you know, the first generation,
it's kind of making sense. And

2927
02:50:30,960 --> 02:50:33,450
the second one is starting to,
like, you know, just say odd

2928
02:50:33,450 --> 02:50:37,260
words. An analogy might be, if
you were to take a famous

2929
02:50:37,260 --> 02:50:40,350
painting or a photo like like
the Mona Lisa, or, you know, a

2930
02:50:40,350 --> 02:50:43,890
picture of, you know, King Kong
on top of the Empire State

2931
02:50:43,890 --> 02:50:46,320
Building, and you were to
photocopy it. And then photocopy

2932
02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:48,540
the photocopy. And then
photocopy the photocopy.

2933
02:50:48,660 --> 02:50:49,680
Eventually, I started to

2934
02:50:49,680 --> 02:50:51,660
John C Dvorak: sort of live with
the guy who's got a weird

2935
02:50:51,660 --> 02:50:53,430
cadence. What is this guy?

2936
02:50:53,460 --> 02:50:56,910
Adam Curry: Oh, they both are
weird. Oh, no, no, they're both

2937
02:50:56,910 --> 02:51:00,990
very weird. But they're, they're
just trying to make, they're

2938
02:51:00,990 --> 02:51:03,510
trying to explain in very simple
terms, what model collapses

2939
02:51:03,510 --> 02:51:03,780
state

2940
02:51:03,780 --> 02:51:05,730
Unknown: building, and you were
to photocopy it, and then

2941
02:51:05,730 --> 02:51:08,430
photocopy the photocopy, and
then photocopy the photocopy,

2942
02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:11,760
eventually, it starts to sort of
look really weird, because the

2943
02:51:11,760 --> 02:51:16,350
photocopy is sort of, you know,
99% accurate. But that 1%

2944
02:51:16,350 --> 02:51:20,730
inaccuracy will change, maybe
the contrast or the color, make

2945
02:51:20,730 --> 02:51:22,530
it a little too white, little to
black. And then after the

2946
02:51:22,530 --> 02:51:24,690
hundreds time, you've got a
really weird looking picture.

2947
02:51:25,320 --> 02:51:28,050
Adam Curry: So first of all, I
think your observation is, and I

2948
02:51:28,050 --> 02:51:30,480
can say this, with some
certainty is either Adderall or

2949
02:51:30,480 --> 02:51:33,900
Vyvanse, I would make a lot of
sense for this age group. But

2950
02:51:33,900 --> 02:51:38,310
this is model collapse, where
you know, the, in the case of

2951
02:51:38,310 --> 02:51:41,220
the type of AI you've been
playing around with, where you

2952
02:51:41,220 --> 02:51:44,910
type, in some words, it creates
an image, and then that you post

2953
02:51:44,910 --> 02:51:49,020
that image to the internet,
either on your social media or

2954
02:51:49,020 --> 02:51:52,530
in the newsletter, it gets out
there, the AI sucks it up again.

2955
02:51:52,530 --> 02:51:54,840
And then before, you know, you
don't have five foot, six

2956
02:51:54,840 --> 02:51:57,600
fingers, you got 20 fingers,
it's everything gets all messed

2957
02:51:57,600 --> 02:52:01,140
up, because the AI keeps
learning from its own mistakes.

2958
02:52:01,470 --> 02:52:03,030
And this has implications,

2959
02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:06,270
Unknown: what are the
implications of model collapse?

2960
02:52:06,690 --> 02:52:10,740
Well, the implications are that,
you know, maybe all of these

2961
02:52:10,740 --> 02:52:13,950
language models are over the
next few years is going to start

2962
02:52:13,950 --> 02:52:17,250
to become worse and worse and
worse, right? That's one

2963
02:52:17,250 --> 02:52:22,740
possibility. If model collapse
is really a serious thing, and

2964
02:52:22,740 --> 02:52:25,830
open AI, and Google and
Microsoft, and everyone just

2965
02:52:25,830 --> 02:52:29,130
keeps on scraping the internet
and feeding it to train their

2966
02:52:29,130 --> 02:52:32,040
models, they, they could get
much worse models. And we could

2967
02:52:32,040 --> 02:52:35,940
be using models that answer, you
know, even more unpredictably

2968
02:52:35,940 --> 02:52:37,980
and even longer than they do
now.

2969
02:52:38,039 --> 02:52:43,499
Adam Curry: longer, longer. even
longer. I think, I think I think

2970
02:52:43,499 --> 02:52:45,809
this is a real problem. They
think

2971
02:52:45,810 --> 02:52:49,800
John C Dvorak: it's not, why not
to correct these things,

2972
02:52:49,830 --> 02:52:52,620
somewhere along the line. People
known as coders.

2973
02:52:53,010 --> 02:52:56,340
Adam Curry: No, wait, but that's
the beauty of it. Yes, you're

2974
02:52:56,340 --> 02:52:59,970
right, there is a solution to
model collapse, surprise, it's

2975
02:52:59,970 --> 02:53:00,810
humans.

2976
02:53:00,930 --> 02:53:03,240
Unknown: I doubt that's the way
it's gonna go. Because I think

2977
02:53:03,240 --> 02:53:06,210
all these people that run these
models create these models are

2978
02:53:06,210 --> 02:53:08,910
going to see this happening and
get very worried about it. And

2979
02:53:08,910 --> 02:53:12,000
they're either going to not
release a new model that's, you

2980
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:16,140
know, even more deranged than
existing lies. They'll probably

2981
02:53:16,140 --> 02:53:18,240
try and find some way that
they'll find some way to cope

2982
02:53:18,240 --> 02:53:21,900
with it, fix it, right. Like you
could pay humans just to write

2983
02:53:21,960 --> 02:53:25,230
new probes for you. You could
say like, we you know, I need I

2984
02:53:25,230 --> 02:53:28,350
need a billion more lines of
stuff, please just write stuff,

2985
02:53:28,350 --> 02:53:30,570
write anything so that we can
feed it the model? You know,

2986
02:53:30,570 --> 02:53:30,720
that

2987
02:53:32,130 --> 02:53:34,290
John C Dvorak: was the right a
billion lines of anything, but

2988
02:53:34,290 --> 02:53:38,730
Okay. Say it again? Well, you
said you can hire humans to

2989
02:53:38,730 --> 02:53:40,230
write a billion lines. And

2990
02:53:40,740 --> 02:53:42,450
Adam Curry: he's talking about
pros.

2991
02:53:42,930 --> 02:53:46,140
John C Dvorak: He's literally
no, yeah, so this one you can't

2992
02:53:46,140 --> 02:53:47,910
have nobody writes a billion
lines.

2993
02:53:47,939 --> 02:53:52,949
Adam Curry: Now he's on Pisan
Vyvanse. The point is, that the

2994
02:53:52,949 --> 02:53:56,939
only way to make AI work it's
not as can't self learn, it

2995
02:53:56,939 --> 02:54:00,779
can't self learn because it's it
feeds all its mistakes back into

2996
02:54:00,779 --> 02:54:04,889
itself in a recursive manner.
And it winds up turning into

2997
02:54:05,729 --> 02:54:06,419
blubber

2998
02:54:06,480 --> 02:54:09,030
Unknown: stuff please just write
stuff write anything so that we

2999
02:54:09,030 --> 02:54:11,520
can feed it the model you know,
that's that's one thing they

3000
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:16,500
could do. The other thing is
they could maybe try to save you

3001
02:54:16,500 --> 02:54:20,280
know, shards of the of the older
training datasets and use them

3002
02:54:20,280 --> 02:54:22,620
to sort of freshen things up
that there's a lot of different

3003
02:54:22,620 --> 02:54:24,810
AI techniques you can use and I
think they're going to have to

3004
02:54:24,810 --> 02:54:28,980
lean into discovering even new
ones to cope with this over the

3005
02:54:28,980 --> 02:54:30,600
next five to 10 years.

3006
02:54:31,199 --> 02:54:34,859
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm all in on
this this this and by the way,

3007
02:54:34,859 --> 02:54:38,549
just shows that AI is bunk. His
bunk

3008
02:54:38,610 --> 02:54:41,520
John C Dvorak: was not a AI
that's for sure. It's just a

3009
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:46,020
text it's a technology to
Iterative technology is used for

3010
02:54:46,020 --> 02:54:50,190
all kinds of good things. Here
an AI Art Generator

3011
02:54:50,220 --> 02:54:53,550
Adam Curry: you're not good
things they're horrible things

3012
02:54:53,700 --> 02:54:55,020
they're no good.

3013
02:54:55,920 --> 02:54:58,050
John C Dvorak: Well turn about
no good i My last clip.

3014
02:54:58,080 --> 02:55:00,240
Adam Curry: Now you don't give a
crap about what I'm saying. then

3015
02:55:00,240 --> 02:55:02,460
you just want to get to your
last clip. No,

3016
02:55:02,460 --> 02:55:05,370
John C Dvorak: no, I what you're
saying I just think it's bold

3017
02:55:05,370 --> 02:55:08,910
crap. What is very strong
technology is going to have a

3018
02:55:08,910 --> 02:55:12,870
lot of implications on both the
art world and elsewhere.

3019
02:55:13,350 --> 02:55:16,110
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. You
know what it's going to eat the

3020
02:55:16,110 --> 02:55:20,040
world we're all gonna die. I
didn't say that give you Elon

3021
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:24,240
number. I think it's going
nowhere. This is not going

3022
02:55:24,240 --> 02:55:27,570
anywhere. It will not have
strong implications we can agree

3023
02:55:27,570 --> 02:55:28,380
to disagree.

3024
02:55:32,940 --> 02:55:34,950
John C Dvorak: New York City,
Robocop.

3025
02:55:35,340 --> 02:55:37,290
Adam Curry: Another AI
invention.

3026
02:55:37,320 --> 02:55:41,220
Unknown: Robo cops in New York
City. The NYPD today rolling out

3027
02:55:41,220 --> 02:55:44,880
a new security robot to patrol
around the Time Square subway

3028
02:55:44,880 --> 02:55:49,560
station. The 420 pound device
will be working from six in the

3029
02:55:49,560 --> 02:55:53,010
morning to midnight, while
accompanied by an actual cop.

3030
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:55,530
Here's Mayor Eric Adams
announcing the launch

3031
02:55:56,010 --> 02:55:56,790
conference.

3032
02:55:57,780 --> 02:56:01,770
We are committed to exploring
innovative tools to continue to

3033
02:56:01,770 --> 02:56:07,650
make this city the safest big
city in America. And this robot

3034
02:56:07,800 --> 02:56:12,990
K five, it has the potential to
serve as an important tool in

3035
02:56:12,990 --> 02:56:13,830
our toolbar.

3036
02:56:14,130 --> 02:56:17,280
The robot will do actively
recording videos throughout its

3037
02:56:17,280 --> 02:56:20,820
shift for the NYPD to review.
Officials say the machine

3038
02:56:20,820 --> 02:56:24,360
doesn't have facial recognition
and it won't be recording audio.

3039
02:56:24,810 --> 02:56:27,720
It'll be on duty for two months
as a pilot program.

3040
02:56:30,570 --> 02:56:31,950
John C Dvorak: What good is it?

3041
02:56:32,520 --> 02:56:34,740
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know.
That seems to me, that's your

3042
02:56:34,770 --> 02:56:36,750
that's your AI right there and a
beginner

3043
02:56:37,260 --> 02:56:40,200
John C Dvorak: just dumb it's
gonna be a fancy. Just say Look,

3044
02:56:40,200 --> 02:56:43,440
don't turn the sound on heaven
forbid you catch it, hearing

3045
02:56:43,440 --> 02:56:47,400
anything. And second, what's the
why not have facial recognition

3046
02:56:47,400 --> 02:56:48,510
that God can't do it?

3047
02:56:49,950 --> 02:56:53,460
Adam Curry: I am still I'm still
blown away by you saying that AI

3048
02:56:53,460 --> 02:56:56,340
will have significant
implications in the art world.

3049
02:56:56,370 --> 02:56:59,760
Have you seen the art that we
had to moan about because it was

3050
02:56:59,760 --> 02:57:00,630
so crap?

3051
02:57:01,530 --> 02:57:03,360
John C Dvorak: Nobody's using
the good stuff.

3052
02:57:04,050 --> 02:57:09,180
Adam Curry: There is no good
stuff. There is no good stuff.

3053
02:57:09,630 --> 02:57:11,550
John C Dvorak: There's good
stuff Believe me,

3054
02:57:11,580 --> 02:57:14,130
Adam Curry: where's the output
of the good stuff?

3055
02:57:14,610 --> 02:57:17,070
John C Dvorak: I could send you
some links to some stuff that's

3056
02:57:17,100 --> 02:57:21,510
you know, got plenty of guy
quality output. It's just It's

3057
02:57:21,510 --> 02:57:24,810
astonishing some of it where
it's gonna is completely

3058
02:57:24,810 --> 02:57:28,560
destroyed the spot art business
for sure. What is spot art

3059
02:57:28,560 --> 02:57:31,950
business? Well, when you see we
read an article and there's a

3060
02:57:31,950 --> 02:57:35,100
little piece of art in the
middle just to kind of emphasize

3061
02:57:35,100 --> 02:57:38,760
aspects of the article. It's
called Spot art. People scatter

3062
02:57:38,760 --> 02:57:42,930
spot art through lots of
generally essays

3063
02:57:42,960 --> 02:57:44,790
Adam Curry: Wow, that's gonna
upset the world.

3064
02:57:46,050 --> 02:57:49,740
John C Dvorak: Big deal. I used
to have a spot art guy when I

3065
02:57:49,740 --> 02:57:53,610
was at Mac user and they got rid
of him and they started using

3066
02:57:53,610 --> 02:57:58,440
this tool called call outs,
which is just blowing up the

3067
02:57:58,440 --> 02:58:02,310
tape real big and I demanded to
get my spot art guy back like I

3068
02:58:02,310 --> 02:58:02,730
did.

3069
02:58:04,950 --> 02:58:07,680
Adam Curry: The spot art will
suck up its own spot art and

3070
02:58:07,680 --> 02:58:11,520
it'll just it'll just the
fidelity will fade over time.

3071
02:58:11,790 --> 02:58:15,480
Yeah, okay. This is a money grab
for it. This is the new

3072
02:58:15,480 --> 02:58:20,580
blockchain. No way. And I'm just
you know what? to coin a phrase.

3073
02:58:20,910 --> 02:58:25,080
I'm not buying it. Oops, I don't
know why I did that.

3074
02:58:26,160 --> 02:58:27,090
John C Dvorak: It's AI.

3075
02:58:28,590 --> 02:58:31,140
Adam Curry: Oh, with AI that
wouldn't have happened. Yeah,

3076
02:58:31,140 --> 02:58:38,970
that's true. That's true. Oh, my
goodness. Comics, your blogger

3077
02:58:38,970 --> 02:58:43,410
no need to post anything. He's
like, there's lots of money to

3078
02:58:43,410 --> 02:58:47,340
be made in AI. If you're an AI
programmer. I know. That's where

3079
02:58:47,340 --> 02:58:55,200
the money is. Well, we shall
see. We shall see. Coming up. No

3080
02:58:55,200 --> 02:59:00,330
agenda stream.com. We have that
Larry show. And we have end of

3081
02:59:00,330 --> 02:59:06,030
show mixes from see what do we
have here? Somehow something got

3082
02:59:07,080 --> 02:59:16,590
messed up. We have DS laughs and
we have Nostradamus and I'm

3083
02:59:16,590 --> 02:59:19,050
coming to you from the heart of
the Texas hill country here in

3084
02:59:19,050 --> 02:59:22,380
FEMA Region number six. I say in
the morning to you. I'm Adam

3085
02:59:22,380 --> 02:59:22,830
curry

3086
02:59:23,160 --> 02:59:25,410
John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where I just

3087
02:59:25,410 --> 02:59:28,980
realized I'm working with a
Luddite named John C Devorah.

3088
02:59:30,180 --> 02:59:32,730
Adam Curry: won't take you back
john. No matter what your drive.

3089
02:59:33,030 --> 02:59:37,980
Remember us at the vorak.org/na
we will return on Thursday. Join

3090
02:59:37,980 --> 02:59:44,400
us for that will you until then
adios mofos Hui Hui, and such

3091
02:59:52,320 --> 02:59:55,590
Unknown: what's distracting us
next? Will it be the windshield?

3092
02:59:55,980 --> 03:00:02,070
Maybe they index as Gadem if it
feels like a Texas wave saying

3093
03:00:02,070 --> 03:00:06,870
that we have scorched earth you
don't say wet bulb dry bulb

3094
03:00:06,870 --> 03:00:10,350
thermometer John TV
environmental inspector our

3095
03:00:10,350 --> 03:00:15,150
barometer listen to NPR see how
it all gets me code switching

3096
03:00:15,150 --> 03:00:20,160
show is to hire the gays race
the conspiracies without

3097
03:00:21,720 --> 03:00:25,470
tracking the crazies on the tin
foil being never sounded

3098
03:00:25,470 --> 03:00:29,400
authentic reading off of a sheet
what can the public even do to

3099
03:00:29,400 --> 03:00:33,450
withstand that so high you can
sit outside in the shade

3100
03:00:33,810 --> 03:00:37,710
academic public servants really
big guy that made I've been

3101
03:00:37,710 --> 03:00:43,110
acquired I said we voted for him
or her so we got

3102
03:01:09,030 --> 03:01:24,420
got no reason at this guy no
reason my shifty eyes Browns

3103
03:01:25,440 --> 03:01:32,880
lies player fussy ads things are
going

3104
03:01:45,270 --> 03:01:45,780
round

3105
03:01:59,700 --> 03:02:00,660
he is such

3106
03:02:07,980 --> 03:02:17,610
uses the this guy nobody dropped
me this guy. Nobody drove me

3107
03:02:17,610 --> 03:02:28,620
this guy. Nobody to love they
say spaces with Ron and their

3108
03:02:28,620 --> 03:02:36,150
eyes out scream at the sky
sanctuary for all socialists

3109
03:02:36,150 --> 03:02:43,950
leaders stop and go find our
flag

3110
03:03:13,710 --> 03:03:21,390
adios MoPhO boruch.org/in A do
something